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Oct 06 11:29:23 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Sat Oct  6 06:33:37 2012
Oct 06 11:29:38 <rdponticelli>	He already emptied cpa and nyan pages
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Oct 06 11:33:00 <PeterLambert>	I guess there is no need for glbse trading funds without a glbse
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Oct 06 11:34:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5952 @ 0.00036883 = 2.1953 BTC [-]
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Oct 06 11:36:57 <rdponticelli>	No, there's not. But there wouldn't either be the need to rush to erase everything....
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Oct 06 11:53:20 <smickles>	holy fucktards batman
Oct 06 11:54:31 <rdponticelli>	What now?
Oct 06 11:54:40 <smickles>	a significant number of people on the forum don't know the definition of a) 'securities' b) 'sale' c) 'purchase' d) 'crime'
Oct 06 11:55:05 <smickles>	(and that's not a multiple choice question ;)
Oct 06 11:55:53 <smickles>	"nothing was officially sold because nothing was officially bought because it has to be bought with fiat"
Oct 06 11:55:56 <smickles>	^^^
Oct 06 11:56:10 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, I said a lot that plenty of people just throws coins at things
Oct 06 11:56:11 <smickles>	i'm suprised that that one learned english
Oct 06 11:57:09 <rdponticelli>	No, that one has not learn english
Oct 06 11:58:04 <rdponticelli>	I tried to read that post, but I couldn't
Oct 06 11:59:09 <Lucidize>	so all bitcoins invested in assets are gone
Oct 06 11:59:13 <Lucidize>	:?
Oct 06 11:59:19 <smickles>	sofar
Oct 06 11:59:25 <smickles>	they may come back tho
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Oct 06 11:59:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39517 @ 0.00036906 = 14.5841 BTC [+]
Oct 06 11:59:49 <smickles>	as for s2cm/mpoe.etf, i just need a list of shareholders and amounts
Oct 06 11:59:50 <rdponticelli>	Sadly, I never saw a bitcoin coming back
Oct 06 12:00:20 <chmod755>	glbse debt anyone?
Oct 06 12:00:29 <smickles>	;;gettrust chmod755
Oct 06 12:00:29 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user smickles to user chmod755: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=smickles&dest=chmod755
Oct 06 12:00:31 <rdponticelli>	smickles: the buy back idea wasn't bad after all
Oct 06 12:00:43 <smickles>	rdponticelli: :)
Oct 06 12:01:08 <rdponticelli>	You could have saved yourself some work
Oct 06 12:02:01 <smickles>	i could've followed Dibols model, glbse shuts down, i keep the assets
Oct 06 12:02:17 <rdponticelli>	lol, that's good too
Oct 06 12:02:19 <smickles>	all the assets of both those things were off glbse
Oct 06 12:02:37 <smickles>	chmod755: how much glbse debt do you have?
Oct 06 12:02:49 <Lucidize>	Argh, lost bitcoin to hashking, yarr, nyan.c and now glbse. I wish I had kept it in my wallet.
Oct 06 12:03:36 <smickles>	funny to see how many are of the mind to just move to cryptostocks
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Oct 06 12:04:01 <PeterLambert>	aybe just move to cryptostocks to do an orderly shutdown?
Oct 06 12:04:05 <chmod755>	smickles,  shares worth of 38 BTC
Oct 06 12:04:06 <PeterLambert>	maybe
Oct 06 12:04:17 <chmod755>	OMG
Oct 06 12:04:26 <Chaang-Noi>	PeterLambert, oh lol
Oct 06 12:04:33 <Chaang-Noi>	lol at the name
Oct 06 12:04:35 <chmod755>	PeterLambert, are you the LIF scammer?
Oct 06 12:04:37 <smickles>	PeterLambert: why not just do an orderly shutdown w/o the move?
Oct 06 12:04:41 <PeterLambert>	hat's wrong with my name?
Oct 06 12:04:57 <rdponticelli>	Lucidize: you have quite a record...
Oct 06 12:05:01 <PeterLambert>	what's
Oct 06 12:05:09 <Chaang-Noi>	troll is clearly a troll
Oct 06 12:05:13 <Chaang-Noi>	but i loled
Oct 06 12:05:20 <chmod755>	^
Oct 06 12:05:30 <smickles>	chmod755: which assets?
Oct 06 12:06:39 <PeterLambert>	I am not ascammer, i was taken bt shakaru, and some others
Oct 06 12:06:47 <chmod755>	oh wait a sec....i'll just keep them....
Oct 06 12:06:53 <Lucidize>	Yes, I feel like a fool. Scammed so many times. I did try getting out of those 2 assets as I could see usagi was a numpty but it was too late.
Oct 06 12:06:55 *	chmod755 is now known as TomWilliams
Oct 06 12:07:09 <TomWilliams>	PeterLambert, you're not a scammer?
Oct 06 12:07:26 <PeterLambert>	No, I am not. I am really sorry about what happened.
Oct 06 12:07:29 <Chaang-Noi>	peterlambert is not really peterlambert
Oct 06 12:07:42 <Chaang-Noi>	he is trolling
Oct 06 12:08:36 <smickles>	rdponticelli: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112071.msg1250438#msg1250438
Oct 06 12:08:43 <smickles>	someone still has hope
Oct 06 12:09:15 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: sup bro
Oct 06 12:09:41 <Chaang-Noi>	on an island with shit internet
Oct 06 12:09:56 <Diablo-D3>	lame :<
Oct 06 12:10:04 <Chaang-Noi>	but nef is scared...  :)
Oct 06 12:10:14 <Chaang-Noi>	needs lawyer and money for it quick:)
Oct 06 12:10:17 <PeterLambert>	Chaang-Noi: since you have had a couple weeks, have you figured out a way to handle your delisted shares? looks like everybody is going to want your advice on how to procede
Oct 06 12:10:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i proceded...you are now seing part of the results...
Oct 06 12:11:05 <PeterLambert>	you caused the glbse shutdown?
Oct 06 12:11:12 <rdponticelli>	smickel: Well, I guess it's ok keeping on, trying to teach something...
Oct 06 12:11:17 <TomWilliams>	Chaang-Noi, http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hircine << !!!
Oct 06 12:11:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i proceded...
Oct 06 12:11:57 <Chaang-Noi>	nef now thinks its best to get a lawyer and shut down glbse...
Oct 06 12:12:15 <Chaang-Noi>	tomwilliams is here too
Oct 06 12:12:18 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Oct 06 12:12:48 <rdponticelli>	Lynch mobs, here's your goat ^^
Oct 06 12:12:58 <TomWilliams>	Yes, Chaang-Noi. I am really sorry about what happened.
Oct 06 12:13:20 <Chaang-Noi>	some one else should be matthewnw or is it too soon?
Oct 06 12:13:34 *	rdponticelli is now known as pirateatanisland
Oct 06 12:13:52 <PeterLambert>	you really dont beleive my name?
Oct 06 12:14:00 <pirateatanisland>	Come on nef, we're waiting for you
Oct 06 12:14:01 <Chaang-Noi>	no
Oct 06 12:14:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i highly doubt peterlambert would come ack, esp now your info has been made public
Oct 06 12:14:36 <pirateatanisland>	TomWilliams: Have you seen him yet?
Oct 06 12:14:57 <TomWilliams>	pirateatanisland, nope
Oct 06 12:15:19 <pirateatanisland>	What's taking him so long?
Oct 06 12:15:29 <Chaang-Noi>	what are you expecting him to do?
Oct 06 12:15:29 <PeterLambert>	I think my old info was made public, I moved recently though
Oct 06 12:15:34 <TomWilliams>	Last seen: 9/13/12 3:07 PM << nef on skype
Oct 06 12:15:44 <TomWilliams>	PeterLambert, https://twitter.com/PeterMLambert post sth
Oct 06 12:15:48 <Chaang-Noi>	if the govttold him to shut down he would not be giving back coin...
Oct 06 12:16:02 <PeterLambert>	yeah, that's me
Oct 06 12:16:28 <PeterLambert>	I don't post much, though
Oct 06 12:17:03 <PeterLambert>	mostly I got a twitter to follow glbse and try feedzebirds
Oct 06 12:17:12 <smickles>	this government is pissing me of, if for the chilling effect alone
Oct 06 12:17:38 <Bugpowder>	if gov told he to shut down they would force repayment of coin
Oct 06 12:17:41 <smickles>	┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
Oct 06 12:18:20 <TomWilliams>	pirateatanisland, what's your job?
Oct 06 12:18:38 <smickles>	people should be able to freely associate in the way glbse facilitated!
Oct 06 12:18:59 <pirateatanisland>	I like to make drinks to my guests
Oct 06 12:19:13 <Chaang-Noi>	and assets?  bugpowder?
Oct 06 12:19:29 <pirateatanisland>	And I told them old stories about booties
Oct 06 12:19:40 <Chaang-Noi>	this does not look like a govt shut down to me.. it looks like nefario is about to get sued and wants to cover his ass...
Oct 06 12:19:51 <TomWilliams>	smickles, glbse assets should be converted to OpenTransactions assets
Oct 06 12:20:06 <PeterLambert>	do you have information about this "about to be sued" thing?
Oct 06 12:20:22 <smickles>	TomWilliams: nefario said (back in april) that the ability to export to OT was a week away
Oct 06 12:20:39 <PeterLambert>	he has said lots of thing are a week away
Oct 06 12:20:42 *	pirateatanisland is now known as rdponticelli
Oct 06 12:20:46 <TomWilliams>	smickles, what's a glbse week?
Oct 06 12:20:50 *	TomWilliams is now known as chmod755
Oct 06 12:20:51 <rdponticelli>	Nefario said so many things...
Oct 06 12:20:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i would say nefario has information and that is why he is in a panic, just a wild wild guess....
Oct 06 12:21:31 <rdponticelli>	Everything was always coming soon
Oct 06 12:22:14 <OgNasty>	Chaang-Noi: Did you have an attorney contact Nefario?
Oct 06 12:22:28 <chmod755>	Nefarios wife..... coming soon
Oct 06 12:22:37 <PeterLambert>	ha
Oct 06 12:22:41 <Chaang-Noi>	no OgNasty I did not have an attorney contact Nefario
Oct 06 12:23:03 <smickles>	ya know, i have a wife, child and one more on the way. I'd hate to go to jail over this, but if it meant even the slightest glimer of hope that my children would have more freedom than I do now, I'd do any I could fo that
Oct 06 12:24:15 *	rdponticelli applauds wildly
Oct 06 12:24:39 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: yeah, I dont like what nefario did here
Oct 06 12:24:46 <Diablo-D3>	he misrepresented the legality of glbse
Oct 06 12:24:51 <OgNasty>	Nefario screwed us all.
Oct 06 12:24:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 260 @ 0.00349999 = 0.91 BTC [+]
Oct 06 12:24:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 90 @ 0.00350001 = 0.315 BTC [+]
Oct 06 12:24:56 <Diablo-D3>	and he stole from my investors
Oct 06 12:25:23 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario fucked me over... he lied to me... shock something like this would happen
Oct 06 12:25:44 <smickles>	how the fuck could he not keep company funds, and customer funds seperate? moron
Oct 06 12:26:02 <Diablo-D3>	this is why I give up
Oct 06 12:26:06 <Diablo-D3>	DMC was never meant to be
Oct 06 12:26:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i find it funny he was in such a hurry to get a lawyer he used the glbse customers funds...
Oct 06 12:27:02 <Chaang-Noi>	he must be very upset
Oct 06 12:29:19 <rdponticelli>	So, Chaang-Noi, you're saying that nefario chickened out because of your threat of a lawsuit?
Oct 06 12:29:32 <Chaang-Noi>	nope
Oct 06 12:29:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i think he is just a scammer
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Oct 06 12:31:39 <Chaang-Noi>	well time for anouther pint, chelsea kicked some ass btw if anyone was lucky enought to see it
Oct 06 12:31:50 <Chaang-Noi>	catch you all later
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Oct 06 12:34:06 <Doffx>	Why would you go to jail smickles?
Oct 06 12:35:54 <Doffx>	I dont think anyone will go to jail from this, even the ones that possibly should.
Oct 06 12:36:04 *	rdponticelli wishes there wasn't any jails
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Oct 06 12:36:42 <rdponticelli>	I hope not
Oct 06 12:37:00 <evoorhees>	hey all - just learned about GLBSE closing
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Oct 06 12:37:14 <evoorhees>	what's the basic situation?
Oct 06 12:37:32 <Doffx>	I dont think anyone knows the entire real story
Oct 06 12:37:44 <Bugpowder>	its on the site
Oct 06 12:37:48 <smickles>	Doffx: with current law an precident in 'merica. it's possible
Oct 06 12:37:48 <Doffx>	the glbse site has some on whats to come, but its vague at best.
Oct 06 12:37:57 <Bugpowder>	Here is what we think
Oct 06 12:38:07 <Bugpowder>	Nefario talked to a lawyer after conf
Oct 06 12:38:21 <Doffx>	Can you name one thing you did wrong smickles?
Oct 06 12:38:22 <Bugpowder>	Realized that his site is illegal
Oct 06 12:38:28 <Bugpowder>	And he had huge liability
Oct 06 12:38:47 <smickles>	Doffx: it seems issuing an asset on glbse fits the definition of securities fraud
Oct 06 12:38:48 <Bugpowder>	Decided to shut it down against the protests of some of the other GLBSE shareholders (Theymos, etc)
Oct 06 12:38:50 <Doffx>	Tax evasion on btc profits maybe? Well for me they goverment would owe me something since I lost most of it haha
Oct 06 12:39:05 <Bugpowder>	And is trying to figure out a way to limit his liability
Oct 06 12:39:31 <evoorhees>	understood
Oct 06 12:39:35 <Bugpowder>	Although there is no indication that any gov official has actually contacted him or anyone else
Oct 06 12:39:36 <Doffx>	I dunno, I dont really see it playing out like that but what do I know.
Oct 06 12:39:42 <Bugpowder>	no clear evidence at least
Oct 06 12:39:57 <evoorhees>	what's the general understanding of how the assets and asset holders will be structured now?
Oct 06 12:40:02 <Bugpowder>	There is some disupte as to the coins being held by GLBSE
Oct 06 12:40:03 <smickles>	Doffx: yeah, who knows how the gov't will ecercise the power people give it
Oct 06 12:40:17 <Bugpowder>	between the shareholders, and when coins will be sent out
Oct 06 12:40:27 <Bugpowder>	Nef was paying for a lawyer with some of the coins
Oct 06 12:40:35 <smickles>	evoorhees: you're too optimistic right now, there is not a general understanding
Oct 06 12:40:39 <Bugpowder>	as a 'loan'
Oct 06 12:40:49 <smickles>	anyway, bbl peeps :)
Oct 06 12:41:25 <Bugpowder>	On Monday there may be additional info re; sending in your account name and password and btc address to get your account balance out
Oct 06 12:41:59 <Bugpowder>	Asset transfer ideas are under development, but nothing that has been decided, if it has, has been made public
Oct 06 12:42:20 <Bugpowder>	Thats about all I think I know
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Oct 06 12:47:04 <PeterLambert>	nice summary
Oct 06 12:49:04 <Bugpowder>	tx
Oct 06 12:49:24 <Bugpowder>	I left out the part about how mp thinks Nef is actually mentally unstable
Oct 06 12:49:49 <Doffx>	Well since hes mentally unstable himself he should know.
Oct 06 12:50:06 <Doffx>	Sorry couldnt help myself :)
Oct 06 12:50:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00037268 = 3.7268 BTC [+]
Oct 06 12:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00037269 = 8.9446 BTC [+]
Oct 06 12:50:37 <Bugpowder>	It is a possibility.  though perhaps not the most parsimonious one.
Oct 06 12:52:04 <Eisenhower34>	didnt we all had to specify a withdraw address in our glbse accs?
Oct 06 12:52:17 <sgornick>	The wildcard is if requiring ID verification to withdraw,  which I though Theymos said was happening, though GLBSE site update doesn't say that.
Oct 06 12:52:18 <Eisenhower34>	so why can he not send the BTC back to that address
Oct 06 12:52:49 <Bugpowder>	ID verification would be insane
Oct 06 12:53:27 <Bugpowder>	and would indicate possible mental instability (paranoia, desire to hoard info to trade with imaginary authorities)
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Oct 06 12:57:55 <PeterLambert>	who is mp?
Oct 06 12:59:09 <Doffx>	 Mircea Popescu
Oct 06 13:02:47 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Oct 06 13:02:55 <Diablo-D3>	if he requires me to send my ID in to get the 800 btc of assets back
Oct 06 13:02:56 <Diablo-D3>	no
Oct 06 13:03:10 <Diablo-D3>	I refuse to participate in this insanity
Oct 06 13:03:20 <Diablo-D3>	hes going to have to apologize to my shareholders directly
Oct 06 13:03:30 <Diablo-D3>	which he should anyhow after putting them through that month long shit
Oct 06 13:05:08 <Diablo-D3>	you know, Im even wondering if I thought what happened actually happened
Oct 06 13:05:21 <Diablo-D3>	maybe the bond issuers DIDNT crash the market
Oct 06 13:05:34 <Diablo-D3>	maybe nefario made up fake bonds and sold them to everyone to generate fake money
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Oct 06 13:06:06 <Diablo-D3>	and somehow falsified share accounting to make them hidden
Oct 06 13:06:08 <Bugpowder>	I don't think you need to invoke that in order to arrive at the downward trajectory
Oct 06 13:06:26 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: well
Oct 06 13:06:29 <Diablo-D3>	as far as I see it
Oct 06 13:06:34 <Diablo-D3>	the market didnt crash
Oct 06 13:06:36 <Diablo-D3>	it was pushed
Oct 06 13:06:51 <Diablo-D3>	I was blaming bond issuers for selling fake bonds
Oct 06 13:06:54 <Diablo-D3>	what if they didnt
Oct 06 13:07:07 <Diablo-D3>	what if it was just nefario's scams colliding in some sort of clusterfuck
Oct 06 13:08:10 <Bugpowder>	there are many reasons why it crashed
Oct 06 13:08:16 <Bugpowder>	pirate collapse
Oct 06 13:08:23 <rg>	wow
Oct 06 13:08:26 <Bugpowder>	block reward halving
Oct 06 13:08:27 <Bugpowder>	ASICS
Oct 06 13:08:33 <rg>	there goes another BitVPS customer to closing/default
Oct 06 13:08:37 <rg>	i just told mircea the other week
Oct 06 13:08:43 <Bugpowder>	loss of confidence
Oct 06 13:08:44 <rg>	we were joking that i was going t lose all my customers due to default
Oct 06 13:08:51 <rg>	so now its ..
Oct 06 13:08:54 <rg>	glbse, bdk_kludge
Oct 06 13:08:59 <Diablo-D3>	yeah its like
Oct 06 13:09:03 <rg>	who else
Oct 06 13:09:03 <Diablo-D3>	why did I bother the past 2 years
Oct 06 13:09:18 <rg>	heres the fuck thing
Oct 06 13:09:21 <rg>	what am i gonn ado
Oct 06 13:09:24 <rg>	i have a passthrough on glbse
Oct 06 13:09:35 <Diablo-D3>	I worked my ass off to evangelize for bitcoin
Oct 06 13:09:53 <rg>	so is there any reason
Oct 06 13:09:55 <rg>	whyit died
Oct 06 13:09:56 <rg>	or just cause
Oct 06 13:09:56 <Diablo-D3>	I helped people build their mining rigs, I wrote a miner, I was always there for people when they needed it
Oct 06 13:10:11 <Diablo-D3>	and this is what I have to show for it: nothing
Oct 06 13:10:28 <rg>	interesting that theymso was trying to sell shares
Oct 06 13:10:31 <rg>	a week before theyc losed
Oct 06 13:10:48 <Diablo-D3>	rg: I can see the staff forum, he just wanted out because nefario was a fucktard
Oct 06 13:11:06 <rg>	or he wanted to do a lil insider trading
Oct 06 13:11:08 <rg>	and fuck someone over
Oct 06 13:11:13 <Diablo-D3>	nefario kept ignoring the board, so the board was quitting him
Oct 06 13:11:19 <Bugpowder>	well rg, I have a fuck ton of S.BVPS
Oct 06 13:11:20 <Diablo-D3>	the board couldnt control nefario
Oct 06 13:11:26 <Bugpowder>	so I hope you still have some customers
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Oct 06 13:11:45 <Bugpowder>	Cause I'm not selling it down to 117500
Oct 06 13:11:56 <Bugpowder>	shit I'm not selling it at all
Oct 06 13:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	what are we selling ?
Oct 06 13:12:10 <Bugpowder>	paid 2.9% this month
Oct 06 13:12:12 <rg>	mircea
Oct 06 13:12:26 <mircea_popescu>	ye
Oct 06 13:12:27 <rg>	you should lower the MPEX fee
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Oct 06 13:12:30 <PeterLambert>	bitvps
Oct 06 13:12:30 <rg>	for the next 2 weeks
Oct 06 13:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	rg you noticed i raised it ?
Oct 06 13:12:43 <rg>	no i didn't
Oct 06 13:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	PeterLambert ?!
Oct 06 13:12:49 <PeterLambert>	yes?
Oct 06 13:12:52 <rg>	it was already a rip off
Oct 06 13:12:54 <rg>	you raised it more?
Oct 06 13:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	quite the cheek. how dare you show your face here ?
Oct 06 13:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	rf 30.
Oct 06 13:13:12 <rg>	lol what a scam
Oct 06 13:13:18 <PeterLambert>	I have a face
Oct 06 13:13:30 <mircea_popescu>	PeterLambert you also have a bunch of defrauded investors.
Oct 06 13:14:00 <PeterLambert>	? maybe they can be included in the glbse shutdown
Oct 06 13:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you can get fucked.
Oct 06 13:14:16 <PeterLambert>	I never did get any communicatio from nefario
Oct 06 13:14:24 <mircea_popescu>	what is this, you think you run with everyone;'s money, come back a year later all is forgotten ?
Oct 06 13:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	all is not forgotten.
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Oct 06 13:15:04 <rg>	what asset was his
Oct 06 13:15:06 <rg>	and what happened
Oct 06 13:15:11 <rg>	i was around a year ago and i dont know who he is
Oct 06 13:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	LIF.x
Oct 06 13:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	back in 2011. first glbse scammer pretty much
Oct 06 13:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	he started the trend.
Oct 06 13:15:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12687 @ 0.00037269 = 4.7283 BTC [+]
Oct 06 13:15:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 413 @ 0.00037545 = 0.1551 BTC [+]
Oct 06 13:15:49 <PeterLambert>	no, I think that title goes to cuddlefish
Oct 06 13:16:14 <rg>	peterlambert have you come to repay your share holders?
Oct 06 13:16:36 <PeterLambert>	Usagi did not learn from my mistakes
Oct 06 13:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate PeterLambert -3 the original GLBBQ scammer. Made a bunch of "funds", LIF.*, made all sorts of claims as to their investment policies, ran off.
Oct 06 13:16:41 <gribble>	Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
Oct 06 13:16:49 <PeterLambert>	I have no idea who they are
Oct 06 13:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	gtfo your mistakes.
Oct 06 13:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	i can't believe the nerve of you idiots.
Oct 06 13:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	btc is not for scammers, go back to nigeria or w.e you sprout from.
Oct 06 13:17:21 <rg>	if theres one thing i hate more than curly haired romanians
Oct 06 13:17:24 <rg>	its scammers
Oct 06 13:17:31 <rg>	:-D
Oct 06 13:17:32 <PeterLambert>	so most of the money I lost went to shakaru
Oct 06 13:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	PeterLambert nobody cares.
Oct 06 13:18:00 <PeterLambert>	oh, well nevermind then
Oct 06 13:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	rg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35775.0 there you have it, in all its splendour
Oct 06 13:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	asshat even deleted his posts, deleted his site, complete and utter scammer.
Oct 06 13:20:18 <PeterLambert>	but no scammer tag?
Oct 06 13:21:14 <mircea_popescu>	apparently you haven't learned from usagi's mistakes either.
Oct 06 13:22:00 <rg>	nice peter
Oct 06 13:22:03 <rg>	how many btc did you steal
Oct 06 13:22:05 <rg>	1200 ?
Oct 06 13:22:20 <rg>	;;calc 1200 * [ticker --last]
Oct 06 13:22:21 <gribble>	15297.564
Oct 06 13:22:25 <rg>	wow
Oct 06 13:22:29 <rg>	you'd go prison for hat
Oct 06 13:22:30 <rg>	that*
Oct 06 13:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	rg it's not even that. it's the eggregiousness of it. he was like, writing extensively about the various stocks and w/e, analuysing them, bla bla.
Oct 06 13:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	then one day... o sorry, "they were all scams".
Oct 06 13:22:48 <rg>	lol
Oct 06 13:22:56 <rg>	hey we're making 30%/mo on our deposits!
Oct 06 13:22:58 <rg>	oh btw
Oct 06 13:23:01 <rg>	i cant pay you any of it.
Oct 06 13:23:02 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, half the people investing at  that time didn't even do any dd, just went by his bs.
Oct 06 13:23:10 <rg>	that's sad
Oct 06 13:23:16 <rg>	one thing that's good about glbse closing is..
Oct 06 13:23:24 <rg>	unexperienced investors wont be able to make uninfomed decisions
Oct 06 13:23:33 <rg>	poor btc-mining
Oct 06 13:23:36 <rg>	he has tons of glbse asstes
Oct 06 13:23:38 <PeterLambert>	no, I didnt steal bitcoins, i lost them in bad investments and scammers
Oct 06 13:23:45 <rg>	lol
Oct 06 13:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	rg indeed. cause you know, of the 30 btc fee.
Oct 06 13:23:48 <rg>	suuuure
Oct 06 13:23:52 <rg>	mircea_popescu: nah
Oct 06 13:23:55 <rg>	coinbr's volume is going to go up
Oct 06 13:23:56 <rg>	a ton
Oct 06 13:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	PeterLambert get lost. you lied about how you were using it, you misrepresented the assets, then you just played the forex market.
Oct 06 13:24:10 <rg>	coinbr is just in time
Oct 06 13:24:11 <rg>	it appears
Oct 06 13:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	rg yup jurov got it right there.
Oct 06 13:24:45 <Bugpowder>	BTC-Mining joined
Oct 06 13:24:51 <Bugpowder>	paid the 20BTC fee
Oct 06 13:24:56 <Bugpowder>	bought some S.BVPS
Oct 06 13:25:05 <Bugpowder>	Last week right?
Oct 06 13:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	i think he was saying so.
Oct 06 13:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	o yea, yea, cause he ended up buying a bunch of giga.etf
Oct 06 13:27:36 <Bugpowder>	lol
Oct 06 13:27:39 <Bugpowder>	fucking lol
Oct 06 13:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder he did get it kinda on the cheap so who know
Oct 06 13:28:31 <mircea_popescu>	s
Oct 06 13:28:38 <rg>	i sold btc-mining a bunch of s.bvps
Oct 06 13:28:40 <rg>	the other week
Oct 06 13:28:45 <rg>	he's our main share holder right now
Oct 06 13:28:46 <rg>	(that i know of)
Oct 06 13:29:08 <rg>	oh i need to post this p/l
Oct 06 13:29:16 <rg>	god damn i hat ebeing bsy
Oct 06 13:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	rg you know as a general principle you should first make s ure with people they're ok to be publicly outed
Oct 06 13:29:36 *	Diablo-D3 sighs
Oct 06 13:29:49 <Diablo-D3>	so I wonder how much money nefario stole
Oct 06 13:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 coupla k is the current est.
Oct 06 13:30:23 <rg>	mircea_popescu: well considering we did the trade in public
Oct 06 13:30:25 <rg>	in this very channel
Oct 06 13:30:26 <Smoovious>	if you get their permission to publicly out them, kinda defeats the purpose of publicly outing them, don't it?
Oct 06 13:30:31 <rg>	i dont think it was supposed to be pivate
Oct 06 13:30:34 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well
Oct 06 13:30:36 <mircea_popescu>	rg o o nm then
Oct 06 13:30:39 <Diablo-D3>	remember when I paid back like 1000 btc?
Oct 06 13:30:45 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder how much didnt make it out of glbse
Oct 06 13:31:00 <rg>	i wonder what spooked nefario
Oct 06 13:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 most of it did im pretty sure, they were bleeding btc in the past weeks at an increasing page.
Oct 06 13:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	pace*
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Oct 06 13:32:15 <rg>	lol
Oct 06 13:32:19 <rg>	a friend of mine jus tbarges in my room
Oct 06 13:32:23 <Smoovious>	I have no idea how nef can claim this is going to be the most orderly shutdown in bitcoin history... if I remember right TradeHill's shutdown, while abrupt, went pretty smoothly, without a lot of pitchforks
Oct 06 13:32:24 <rg>	his leg is coverd in blood
Oct 06 13:32:30 <rg>	and it appears to be coming out at a good pace
Oct 06 13:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	mostly the people who were valuing their paper above market value got murdered. there's people with portofolios consisting of 100 btc, 1500 worth of "assets" they were valuing 2-3k
Oct 06 13:32:41 <rg>	i gues they were 'shooting arrows at the wooden fence'
Oct 06 13:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	and these people feel they've lost "at least 3k"
Oct 06 13:32:51 <rg>	and somehow he managed to get shot in the back of the leg with an arrow
Oct 06 13:32:52 <rg>	lol
Oct 06 13:32:52 <mircea_popescu>	instead of the more reasonable ~1k or so.
Oct 06 13:33:00 <rg>	i dont know if we should call 911
Oct 06 13:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	yes you should
Oct 06 13:33:11 <Bugpowder>	Is the arrow still in?
Oct 06 13:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	if he bleeds alot. there's a femural artery.
Oct 06 13:33:19 <rg>	no he ripped it out
Oct 06 13:33:21 <rg>	it was only the tip
Oct 06 13:33:26 <Bugpowder>	is the blood pulsing
Oct 06 13:33:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya what he said
Oct 06 13:33:31 <Bugpowder>	out
Oct 06 13:33:31 <rg>	no it snot pulsing
Oct 06 13:33:35 <rg>	theres just a lot
Oct 06 13:33:35 <Bugpowder>	ok
Oct 06 13:33:44 <rg>	cause instead of putting pressure on it
Oct 06 13:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	you should prolly call it anyway.
Oct 06 13:33:45 <Bugpowder>	apply pressure
Oct 06 13:33:48 <rg>	he ran in here to show me
Oct 06 13:33:50 <rg>	how kewl it was
Oct 06 13:33:53 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Oct 06 13:33:57 <mircea_popescu>	on, nm, don't call it.
Oct 06 13:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	let him DIE
Oct 06 13:34:05 <asa1024>	lol
Oct 06 13:34:08 <rg>	lol he did get blood on my door
Oct 06 13:34:12 <Bugpowder>	apply pressure for 5 minutes see if the bleeding slows
Oct 06 13:34:20 <rg>	he'll handle it
Oct 06 13:34:21 <Bugpowder>	if its not pulsing probably OK
Oct 06 13:34:23 <rg>	i think he might be an EMT
Oct 06 13:34:26 <rg>	at one point he was
Oct 06 13:34:36 <rg>	ill go out there in a few mintues to investigate
Oct 06 13:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	rg comes back with arrow to the knee
Oct 06 13:34:49 <rg>	lol
Oct 06 13:35:01 <rg>	mircea lets see some porn
Oct 06 13:35:04 <Smoovious>	ouch... that'd hurt
Oct 06 13:35:14 <Smoovious>	knees aren't all that arrow-friendly
Oct 06 13:35:15 <rg>	smoov: and take forever to heal
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Oct 06 13:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/14672.html you seen the one with the lesbians ?
Oct 06 13:36:59 <rg>	seems to be a large occurance of butt lucking
Oct 06 13:37:00 <rg>	in those photos
Oct 06 13:37:49 <mircea_popescu>	well what can they do you know ? no cock.
Oct 06 13:38:20 <rg>	girls have cocks
Oct 06 13:38:23 <rg>	silly mircea
Oct 06 13:38:29 <rg>	at least every one ive got with has had one
Oct 06 13:40:00 <Smoovious>	rg: maybe you should consider trying a different bar to go drinking at?
Oct 06 13:40:23 <rg>	hmm but 'the tool box' seemed like such a kewl name
Oct 06 13:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00037198 = 6.1005 BTC [-]
Oct 06 13:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Oct 06 14:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00037242 = 7.9698 BTC [+]
Oct 06 14:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21346 @ 0.00037198 = 7.9403 BTC [-]
Oct 06 14:06:54 <matthewh3>	just been on the phone with Nafario for a good half hour
Oct 06 14:06:58 <Diablo-D3>	oh?
Oct 06 14:07:36 <matthewh3>	he's not trying to steal anyones coins
Oct 06 14:07:47 <Diablo-D3>	of course a scammer would say that
Oct 06 14:08:01 <matthewh3>	those coins he's holding are a legal liability
Oct 06 14:12:43 <RogueAI>	my main issue is that people questioned nefario about legal issues and he always said he wasn't worried
Oct 06 14:12:50 <RogueAI>	well now he seems to be quite worried
Oct 06 14:14:28 <rg>	which would seem to suggst th eissues are not legal
Oct 06 14:14:40 <rg>	for all we know, nefario found out he has to move to china or something
Oct 06 14:14:43 <rg>	and cant work on glbse anymore
Oct 06 14:14:47 <rg>	and istead of hiring someon else
Oct 06 14:14:50 <rg>	the shareholders said fuc kit
Oct 06 14:15:04 <RogueAI>	or that he needs to kill off glbse if he wants to register a legal entity in the UK
Oct 06 14:15:16 <rg>	interesting
Oct 06 14:15:18 <BTC-Mining>	Hey, what's all that talk about nefario taking user's deposits for a lawyer? That's not officially confirmed yet.
Oct 06 14:16:05 <RogueAI>	besides if it's good enough for Corzine and the rest of Wall Street, it's ok for Nefario ;p
Oct 06 14:20:34 <Smoovious>	Nefario is no Corzine... Corzine scammed like a Boss
Oct 06 14:21:04 <Diablo-D3>	yar
Oct 06 14:23:00 <rg>	BTC-Mining: .. i surely hope that's a rumor
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Oct 06 14:23:19 <BTC-Mining>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1249325#msg1249325
Oct 06 14:24:15 <BTC-Mining>	At least theymos, contrary to his first post, eventually confessed he was just guessing it and actually didn't know at all if Nefario took any user's fund.
Oct 06 14:25:46 <Bugpowder>	The coins he is holding are a legal liability if he doesn't return them to me
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Oct 06 14:27:04 <BTC-Mining>	[14:25] <Bugpowder> if he doesn't return them to me
Oct 06 14:27:20 <BTC-Mining>	oh, as in yours or 100% of the coins? =P
Oct 06 14:27:54 <Bugpowder>	well
Oct 06 14:28:05 <Bugpowder>	he should return the current deposits
Oct 06 14:28:16 <Bugpowder>	the pirate liability he can't discharge
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Oct 06 14:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00037377 = 8.3724 BTC [+]
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Oct 06 14:33:39 <BTC-Mining>	Eh. Well I'm off. Visiting relatives this weekend, better get going.
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Oct 06 14:43:37 <rg>	dude
Oct 06 14:43:43 <rg>	why the fuck are people accusing me of copying data from glbse
Oct 06 14:43:45 <rg>	get a fucking clue
Oct 06 14:43:51 <rg>	all i said was 'glbse has backups'
Oct 06 14:43:56 <rg>	and everyone took that to mean that I hav the data
Oct 06 14:44:09 <matthewh3>	basically the jist of what Nafario said on the phone about the shutdown was say he didn't want to go to jail
Oct 06 14:44:24 <rg>	yeah wellg et your facts straight
Oct 06 14:44:28 <rg>	and tell him i didn't snoop through his VM
Oct 06 14:44:34 <rg>	as i even said on hte forum
Oct 06 14:44:36 <rg>	i dont have the data
Oct 06 14:44:38 <rg>	and even if i did
Oct 06 14:44:41 <rg>	it wouldnt be mine to give
Oct 06 14:44:44 <rg>	so fuck off
Oct 06 14:47:22 <rg>	there
Oct 06 14:47:24 <rg>	i emailed nefario
Oct 06 14:47:29 <rg>	so this will finally be sorted
Oct 06 14:48:26 <rg>	;;ident matthewh3
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Oct 06 14:48:34 <rg>	;;getrating matthewh3
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Oct 06 14:56:19 <rg>	god damn people are fucking stupid
Oct 06 14:56:22 <rg>	apparently now
Oct 06 14:56:28 <rg>	i've copied a database that wasnt even hosted at bitvps
Oct 06 14:56:29 <rg>	!
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Oct 06 14:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00037377 = 1.1587 BTC [+]
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Oct 06 15:02:19 <cryptorific>	rg: people are pissed, rightfully so, and they're looking for some one to hang
Oct 06 15:02:29 <rg>	well even if i had the data
Oct 06 15:02:33 <rg>	it wouldnt change anything
Oct 06 15:02:43 <rg>	people are just connecting pieces that arent there
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Oct 06 15:05:09 <cryptorific>	i'm sure thats the case, but when you can't get your hands on the people tht screw you, you'll tend to go after anyone nearby to let out your frustration, doesn't make it right, but it is to be expected
Oct 06 15:08:50 <cryptorific>	ugh, anyone know whats the time to get verified by mtgox is running these days?
Oct 06 15:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	a week-ish ?
Oct 06 15:10:32 <Anduck>	hey
Oct 06 15:10:36 <Anduck>	why did glbse close+
Oct 06 15:10:36 <Anduck>	+
Oct 06 15:10:37 <Anduck>	???
Oct 06 15:10:54 <Anduck>	legal stuff
Oct 06 15:10:54 <Anduck>	?
Oct 06 15:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck cauise nefario is either stupid, insane or both.
Oct 06 15:11:03 <Anduck>	mmm
Oct 06 15:11:05 <Anduck>	welll
Oct 06 15:11:14 <Anduck>	glbse was f'n rising
Oct 06 15:11:28 <Anduck>	he just shouldve hired some REAL coder to do the platform
Oct 06 15:11:39 <Anduck>	and then hire some REAL administrator to keep it on
Oct 06 15:11:50 <cryptorific>	he should have gotten a real securities license
Oct 06 15:12:09 <Anduck>	why?
Oct 06 15:12:12 <Anduck>	it's btc..
Oct 06 15:12:19 <Anduck>	it's no real companies, right?
Oct 06 15:12:23 <mircea_popescu>	so everyone : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/
Oct 06 15:12:25 <Anduck>	it's like a fokin habbo hotell
Oct 06 15:12:30 <mircea_popescu>	feel free to add your comments.
Oct 06 15:15:08 <cryptorific>	anduck: just because the currency isn't USD doesn't mean its not a security, I'm certain a good prosecutor will get a jury to believe that bitcoin is a currency, its readily converterible to fiat and functions like currency
Oct 06 15:15:21 <cryptorific>	mircea_popescu: see my comment to anduck
Oct 06 15:15:27 <Anduck>	umm
Oct 06 15:15:32 <Anduck>	well
Oct 06 15:15:39 <Anduck>	why isn't habbo hotel coins currency?
Oct 06 15:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	cryptorific you are certain on the basis of what ?
Oct 06 15:15:50 <Anduck>	well you cant trade them back to fiat via their services
Oct 06 15:15:58 <Anduck>	but u can via p2p
Oct 06 15:16:05 <Anduck>	person to person it is
Oct 06 15:16:24 <jurov>	haha good... i was also thinking to explain btc in terms of Massive Multiplayer Online Player Game, should I talk to lawyer sometime
Oct 06 15:16:38 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu:  Autor: Mircea Popescu
Oct 06 15:16:39 <Anduck>	autor
Oct 06 15:16:41 <Anduck>	autorr
Oct 06 15:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck used to be in romanian that blog, so
Oct 06 15:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	haven't changed a buncha stuff yet.
Oct 06 15:17:00 <Anduck>	ok
Oct 06 15:17:01 <cryptorific>	Anduck: It probably would be considered currency if it came to trial. People forget that because the authoriities allow something doesn't mean they will forever
Oct 06 15:17:16 <Anduck>	yea
Oct 06 15:17:29 <Anduck>	it's considered as a currency when bloomberg says it is currency!
Oct 06 15:18:14 <cryptorific>	Anduck: if bloomberg considers it a currency then its made it big time
Oct 06 15:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	cryptorific "probably". dude. are you a lawyer ?
Oct 06 15:19:08 <Anduck>	exactly, cryptorific. there's no turning back from that point
Oct 06 15:19:22 <cryptorific>	mircea_popescu: i'm in law school in the US. I say probably because a judge will leave up to the jury the decision of whether bitcoins are a currency. A judge wouldn't make that kind of determination here because its a matter of fact not a legal matter
Oct 06 15:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	well you're not going to a very good school then.
Oct 06 15:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	matters of substantive law are never left to the jury.
Oct 06 15:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	also, civil matters (which this would likely be) aren't usually jury-tried.
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Oct 06 15:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9587 @ 0.00037545 = 3.5994 BTC [+]
Oct 06 15:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23713 @ 0.00037546 = 8.9033 BTC [+]
Oct 06 15:23:32 <cryptorific>	mircea_popescu: operating and issusing unlicensed securities is a criminal matter
Oct 06 15:23:35 <cryptorific>	not civil
Oct 06 15:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	we were discussing whether bitcoin is money.
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Oct 06 15:28:43 <cryptorific>	look at U.S. v. 3809 Crain Ltd. Partnership, it provides a nice definition of what money or money's worth is
Oct 06 15:29:27 <rg>	[15:23] <cryptorific> mircea_popescu: operating and issusing unlicensed securities is a criminal matter
Oct 06 15:29:32 <rg>	not only is that true..
Oct 06 15:29:36 <rg>	the SEC has a snitch-line setup
Oct 06 15:29:52 <rg>	where you can narc out companies/individuals right from your computer chair
Oct 06 15:29:56 <BTCHero>	snitches get... leniancy
Oct 06 15:30:56 <cryptorific>	ya, maybe nefario saw the doors closing in on him, and turned himself in before he got a swat team at his door at 5am sunday morning
Oct 06 15:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	Any other consideration not reducible to a money value is not consideration in money or money's worth.
Oct 06 15:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	seems pretty clear cut.
Oct 06 15:34:33 <cryptorific>	bitcoin is reducible to money, as long as there is one guy will to give you fiat or gold, or whatever its reducible to money
Oct 06 15:34:42 <cryptorific>	thats what a prosecutor will say
Oct 06 15:35:15 <cryptorific>	and do i think a jury will buy that, yea i do, its not a matter of law its a matter of what a jury will say
Oct 06 15:35:19 <cryptorific>	or think*
Oct 06 15:39:40 <cryptorific>	mircea_popescu: i'm not saying glbse or mpex should be shut down, i just think from a legal perspective that they have a serious legal liability, mpex less so because its based out of a less friendly jurisidiction but if i were you I'd be getting any politician i can to here my case for official sanction
Oct 06 15:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	cryptorific it's not really a matter of jurisdiction tbh.
Oct 06 15:40:42 <mircea_popescu>	(fully willing to file amicus briefs in any us consideration of bitcoin for these purposes)
Oct 06 15:41:46 <cryptorific>	it is when it comes to getting sent to jail, id imagine extradition is alot harder from romania than the UK, but you're right from the sense of legal liability, it doesn't matter
Oct 06 15:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	i think people are well jumping the gun with all the criminal and extradition talk.
Oct 06 15:42:55 <cryptorific>	perhaps, im just talking hypotheticals
Oct 06 15:45:35 <mircea_popescu>	well sure.
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Oct 06 16:08:24 <matthewh3>	well Nafario did say he closed the exchange to stay out of jail and that the GLBSE is never coming back.  He also did talk about a exchange for fully regulated companies that pay all taxes
Oct 06 16:09:07 <Diablo-D3>	matthewh3: in other words he lied about the legality of it and stole thousands of bitcoins
Oct 06 16:09:10 <Diablo-D3>	fuck him
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Oct 06 16:11:25 <cryptorific>	Diablo-D3: did nefario ever say it was legal? i was never under the impression that it was licensed
Oct 06 16:12:13 <Diablo-D3>	cryptorific: he claimed it was
Oct 06 16:12:27 <matthewh3>	there will be a new licensed exchange for companies that pay all taxes and follow all legal regulations
Oct 06 16:12:27 <Diablo-D3>	I asked him before I started DMC
Oct 06 16:12:52 <Azelphur>	I miss nefario, all this drama is keeping him off IRC XD
Oct 06 16:14:14 <cryptorific>	yea, then he shouldn't have lied
Oct 06 16:14:51 <Diablo-D3>	matthewh3: and you've been scammer tagged on the forums anyhow
Oct 06 16:15:23 <Azelphur>	seems like he's trying to bring GLBSE up to legal regs
Oct 06 16:15:26 <Azelphur>	which sits fine with me
Oct 06 16:15:46 <Diablo-D3>	someone else can liquidate DMC, Im sure as hell not going to be
Oct 06 16:16:00 <Azelphur>	also is that the matthew that made the bet and then ran?
Oct 06 16:16:39 <pigeons>	no this is matthewh3 from "red star mining"
Oct 06 16:16:47 <Azelphur>	ah :p
Oct 06 16:16:49 <Diablo-D3>	theres more than one matthew?
Oct 06 16:16:58 <Azelphur>	matthews, matthews everywhere.
Oct 06 16:17:03 <Diablo-D3>	matthewh3: and quit noticing me.
Oct 06 16:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 is scammer tagged nao ?!
Oct 06 16:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	ya what pigeons said.
Oct 06 16:17:31 <pigeons>	time to just abandon the whole forum scammer tag deal
Oct 06 16:17:36 <Diablo-D3>	matthewh3: I didnt "lose" investor money, nefario participated in scams and promoted them for DMC investment.
Oct 06 16:17:57 <Diablo-D3>	so I hope the UK government fries his ass
Oct 06 16:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	<pigeons> time to just abandon the whole forum scammer tag deal << ya give theymos one and be done with it
Oct 06 16:18:35 <Azelphur>	xD
Oct 06 16:18:50 <Azelphur>	they need to make a bitcoin movie man
Oct 06 16:18:57 <Azelphur>	so much drama, people would watch that shit
Oct 06 16:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	Azelphur totally.
Oct 06 16:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	a sitcom
Oct 06 16:19:14 <Azelphur>	with weekly episodes
Oct 06 16:19:22 <Azelphur>	and the main character could be strange onlooker
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Oct 06 16:20:03 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: also, I'm poor now
Oct 06 16:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	Azelphur aww!
Oct 06 16:20:21 <Azelphur>	I had my money split between pirate and glbse...so yea
Oct 06 16:20:26 *	Azelphur hangs head in sadness
Oct 06 16:20:37 <rdponticelli>	Azelphur: we already have material for a whole saga of bitcoin movies
Oct 06 16:20:42 <Azelphur>	hopefully I'll see some of it again :P
Oct 06 16:20:48 <Smoovious>	mine was split between pirate ppt's, glbse, and bitcoinmax
Oct 06 16:20:53 <Azelphur>	rdponticelli: indeed
Oct 06 16:21:01 <Azelphur>	Smoovious: yea, I had stuff in bitcoinmax too
Oct 06 16:21:03 <cryptorific>	azelphur: too bad you didnt visit satoshidice, better odds in honest gambling
Oct 06 16:21:17 <Azelphur>	I do have some S.DICE shares
Oct 06 16:21:21 <Azelphur>	on MPEX
Oct 06 16:21:21 <Azelphur>	\o/
Oct 06 16:21:39 <Azelphur>	inb4 mircea shuts down mpex and requests personal info for withdrawals
Oct 06 16:22:08 <cryptorific>	lol, i had some pass through on glbse, but i sold them right before the last dividend payment because they shot up to .0038 for some silly reason
Oct 06 16:22:26 <Azelphur>	also regarding this ID thing, what info does nef actually want?
Oct 06 16:22:31 <Azelphur>	is it passport and/or drivers license?
Oct 06 16:23:26 <Azelphur>	apparently he wants MtGox-style AML documents, whatever they are
Oct 06 16:24:20 <pigeons>	we don't know. theymos implied heavy docs, nefario implied lite docs
Oct 06 16:24:32 <Diablo-D3>	its probably not docs at all
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Oct 06 16:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	it's unclear to both ofthem what they're actually doing.
Oct 06 16:24:37 <Azelphur>	hopefully it's not passport and/or drivers license, as I don't actually have those xD
Oct 06 16:24:40 <Diablo-D3>	you must be a legally registered company in the US or EU
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Oct 06 16:25:14 <Azelphur>	I feel like the only person to exist that hasn't been abroad, and doesn't drive
Oct 06 16:25:28 <Azelphur>	xD
Oct 06 16:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	i don;'t drive.
Oct 06 16:26:22 *	Azelphur high fives
Oct 06 16:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	Bet Counter 1,441,441
Oct 06 16:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
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Oct 06 16:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	Stolen Bitcoins never die, although they may be in suspended animation,
Oct 06 16:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	they do always in fact eagerly await the command of their new masters.
Oct 06 16:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	"That is not dead which can eternal lie — and with strange aeons even death may die."
Oct 06 16:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha sweet.
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Oct 06 16:41:09 <mircea_popescu>	awww what happened to assbot kakobrekla ?
Oct 06 16:41:19 <kakobrekla>	uh ?
Oct 06 16:41:21 <kakobrekla>	hm
Oct 06 16:41:25 <kakobrekla>	ill check
Oct 06 16:41:47 <rdponticelli>	Oh, god, the SEC got assbot!
Oct 06 16:41:58 <rdponticelli>	We're all done!
Oct 06 16:42:48 <kakobrekla>	freenode server died
Oct 06 16:42:55 <kakobrekla>	i a specifc one hardcoded
Oct 06 16:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
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Oct 06 16:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli lolz
Oct 06 16:44:21 <rdponticelli>	xD
Oct 06 16:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	didja read my sec position btw ?
Oct 06 16:45:41 <rdponticelli>	I read so many things...
Oct 06 16:45:48 <rdponticelli>	I already forgot everything....
Oct 06 16:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/
Oct 06 16:45:54 <mircea_popescu>	^^
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Oct 06 16:47:50 <kakobrekla>	lol
Oct 06 16:48:04 <kakobrekla>	oh well.
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Oct 06 16:51:14 <bitfoo>	mircea_popescu, thanks, that was a good read
Oct 06 16:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	yw.
Oct 06 16:52:17 <bitfoo>	I like the idea of a distributed, cryptographically secure MMORPG :)
Oct 06 16:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	:)
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Oct 06 16:53:28 <mircea_popescu>	leave a comment there wouldja
Oct 06 16:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	gotta get that 1st one
Oct 06 16:54:39 <bitfoo>	done
Oct 06 16:54:50 <bitfoo>	not that I had anything worthwhile to say
Oct 06 16:54:53 <bitfoo>	but since you wanted it...
Oct 06 16:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	hehe. enjoy lurk!
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Oct 06 17:00:01 <knotwork>	mircea_popescu maybe MPEX should officially have a location in a specific city of Romanian nation on a specific planet within the Galactic Milieu, where the govt of that Freeciv nation can even document specific law that applies to such markets operating on their territory of that planet
Oct 06 17:00:17 <knotwork>	the Romanian nation has not been claimed yet by any players
Oct 06 17:01:00 <knotwork>	(Take a look at Digitalis OT server's asset contracts, their jurisdiction is the city MI5ius on the planet known as M5)
Oct 06 17:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	ugh that was confusing.
Oct 06 17:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	but im in timisoara
Oct 06 17:05:40 <knotwork>	is that a world, nation, province, city, novel, or what?
Oct 06 17:05:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00037433 = 5.9893 BTC [-]
Oct 06 17:06:48 <mircea_popescu>	.g timisoara
Oct 06 17:06:48 <markac>	mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timi%C8%99oara
Oct 06 17:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	its a city!
Oct 06 17:07:20 <knotwork>	if it is a major city, probably most planets on which the Romanian nation builds many cities will have one by that name
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Oct 06 17:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	like 4th largest i think
Oct 06 17:07:46 <knotwork>	just like most Canadian planets have an Ottawa and a Toronto and so on and Brit planets usually have a London and a Liverpool etc
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Oct 06 17:14:20 <Smoovious>	well, governmental types tend to lack any true imagination
Oct 06 17:14:34 <Smoovious>	they just repackage, rebrand, and reuse
Oct 06 17:15:00 <knotwork>	in this case its the software developers, they package existing/historic city names as default names so players dont need to exert imagination to invent names for cities
Oct 06 17:15:35 <Smoovious>	which I consider lame
Oct 06 17:16:00 <knotwork>	MI-5ius being an exception, as the main city where the Martian Intelligence service's section 5 is based
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Oct 06 17:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24269 @ 0.00037521 = 9.106 BTC [+]
Oct 06 17:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17917 @ 0.00037546 = 6.7271 BTC [+]
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Oct 06 17:45:25 <Bugpowder>	Nice find : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=116835.msg1251220#msg1251220
Oct 06 17:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	haha i been pasting the orig link i nhere today
Oct 06 17:49:31 <Bugpowder>	Go Obama
Oct 06 17:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18978 @ 0.00037546 = 7.1255 BTC [+]
Oct 06 17:57:41 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: man, all these people with crazy ass govt concpiracy theories
Oct 06 17:57:51 <Ukto>	"omg.. black helicopteres coming for my bitcoins!"
Oct 06 17:58:08 <mircea_popescu>	it is a little exaggerate isnt it.
Oct 06 17:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	i think it might be related to SR.
Oct 06 17:58:31 <Bugpowder>	OMG black helicopters are coming for my investors bitcoins.  I better steal them
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Oct 06 17:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Oct 06 17:59:49 <mircea_popescu>	i'll bet you ancient spanish golden dubloons vs delicious cream filled doughnuts that in about a year's time mccarthy shows up all lambert-like
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Oct 06 18:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6677 @ 0.00037447 = 2.5003 BTC [-]
Oct 06 18:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	omg quitters.
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Oct 06 18:46:47 <grubles>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 06 18:46:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00321255 / 0.00339995 (53350 shares, 171.39 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00337158 / 0.0034 (1606703 shares, 5,417.13 BTC)
Oct 06 18:46:50 <grubles>	!ticker s.bvps
Oct 06 18:46:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.0027501 / 0.00332457 / 0.00350001 (3510 shares, 11.67 BTC), 30day: 0.001175 / 0.00340428 / 0.00359486 (74170 shares, 252.50 BTC)
Oct 06 18:47:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00037447 = 1.5353 BTC [-]
Oct 06 18:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 14 @ 0.03 = 0.42 BTC [+]
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Oct 06 18:54:54 <Ukto>	at the park today... https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvcet8u79h8yu6w/2012-10-06%2015.13.16.jpg <-- some landscaper played WAAAY too much minecraft.
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Oct 06 19:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22322 @ 0.00037528 = 8.377 BTC [+]
Oct 06 19:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38880 @ 0.00037575 = 14.6092 BTC [+]
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Oct 06 19:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 650 @ 0.15735201 = 102.2788 BTC [-]
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Oct 06 19:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35623 @ 0.00037447 = 13.3397 BTC [-]
Oct 06 19:46:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7217 @ 0.00037433 = 2.7015 BTC [-]
Oct 06 19:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7160 @ 0.00037366 = 2.6754 BTC [-]
Oct 06 19:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 650 @ 0.19800156 = 128.701 BTC [+]
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Oct 06 20:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6540 @ 0.00037366 = 2.4437 BTC [-]
Oct 06 20:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00037265 = 2.1986 BTC [-]
Oct 06 20:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31860 @ 0.00037219 = 11.858 BTC [-]
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Oct 06 20:38:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21286 @ 0.00037219 = 7.9224 BTC [-]
Oct 06 20:38:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26554 @ 0.00037198 = 9.8776 BTC [-]
Oct 06 20:38:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4560 @ 0.00037172 = 1.695 BTC [-]
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Oct 06 20:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00339995 = 1.87 BTC [+]
Oct 06 21:06:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7440 @ 0.00037172 = 2.7656 BTC [-]
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Oct 06 21:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 06 21:14:17 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.99991, Best ask: 12, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 12, 24 hour volume: 38173, 24 hour low: 12, 24 hour high: 12.8136
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Oct 06 21:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00037067 = 1.6309 BTC [-]
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Oct 06 21:31:56 <boonies4u>	well, I activated my loan...
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Oct 06 21:33:33 <boonies4u>	anyone know how long BFL will be accepting trade-ins for ASICs?
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Oct 06 21:37:40 <rdponticelli>	boonies4u: answering your question would requiere to assume a whole lot of uncertainties to be true...
Oct 06 21:38:23 <boonies4u>	iirc they would be accepting them for trade in for some time after releasing pre orders
Oct 06 21:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 437913 @ 0.0032725 = 1433.0703 BTC [-]
Oct 06 21:39:24 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, but in first place you're assuming that BFL is making ASICS, that they're going to be ready on a relatively short term...
Oct 06 21:40:01 <rdponticelli>	That they're going to accept a swap for that supposed new product...
Oct 06 21:40:08 <boonies4u>	oh, i'm in no rush to get an ASIC
Oct 06 21:40:13 <rdponticelli>	That's a lot of assumptions
Oct 06 21:40:53 <boonies4u>	if they aren't making ASICs, I'll be stuck with an FPGA
Oct 06 21:41:15 <boonies4u>	i'm not pre-ordering
Oct 06 21:41:59 <rdponticelli>	Ok, I'm just saying that until ALL of those assumptions becomes a certainty, your question is impossible to answer
Oct 06 21:42:34 <boonies4u>	do you remember hearing that they would be taking in trade-ins for some time?
Oct 06 21:43:12 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, I read a lot of people saying a lot of things
Oct 06 21:43:35 <rdponticelli>	And yes, they say they would take trade-ins
Oct 06 21:44:04 <boonies4u>	hmm
Oct 06 21:44:04 <rdponticelli>	But I don't know if those supposed trade-ins would be limited in time
Oct 06 21:44:23 <boonies4u>	I'll just wait until I get an email back
Oct 06 21:44:41 <boonies4u>	and eat whatever costs come from BTC price drop
Oct 06 21:45:22 <rdponticelli>	I'm sure you can hedge your position
Oct 06 21:45:40 <boonies4u>	this is my position : https://btcjam.com/listings/38
Oct 06 21:48:55 <rdponticelli>	Oh, you took a loan to buy harware?
Oct 06 21:51:57 <boonies4u>	and mining turds
Oct 06 21:52:14 <rdponticelli>	lol
Oct 06 21:52:36 <boonies4u>	and without the mining turds, I need to bring in mined coins ASAP
Oct 06 21:52:48 <rdponticelli>	Well, with glbse down, you're safe from the turds, at least
Oct 06 21:53:03 <boonies4u>	I wasn't afraid of the turds
Oct 06 21:53:25 <boonies4u>	and neither were my investors apparently
Oct 06 21:53:39 <rdponticelli>	Ok
Oct 06 21:54:01 <boonies4u>	I am afraid of waiting 3 weeks for an FPGA to get here, as I burn through coins
Oct 06 21:54:47 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, is a sensible time to buy hardware, so close of the reward halving....
Oct 06 21:55:07 <rdponticelli>	Lots of uncertainties
Oct 06 21:55:28 <boonies4u>	maybe you were right about the mining turds
Oct 06 21:55:38 <boonies4u>	might have just been one less thing that could fuck me
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Oct 06 21:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 10 @ 0.05188801 = 0.5189 BTC [+]
Oct 06 21:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 10 @ 0.06815531 = 0.6816 BTC [-]
Oct 06 22:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
Oct 06 22:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 313 @ 0.78195045 = 244.7505 BTC [+]
Oct 06 22:03:15 <rdponticelli>	I don't know, but if asics really come out, the turds are going to plumbet even more
Oct 06 22:04:18 <rdponticelli>	If there'll be no asic, they can recover some value, as the market has been pricing in that possibility from a while now...
Oct 06 22:04:24 <rdponticelli>	It's all a gamble
Oct 06 22:04:32 <boonies4u>	Giga's upgrade is nice though
Oct 06 22:04:47 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, if it happens
Oct 06 22:04:57 <rdponticelli>	Now without glbse...
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Oct 06 22:05:11 <boonies4u>	I think the days of private mining contracts have returned
Oct 06 22:05:35 <rdponticelli>	I bought some dirty cheap giga.etf, but again, it's a gamble....
Oct 06 22:06:07 <boonies4u>	anything involving bitcoin is a gamble
Oct 06 22:06:37 <boonies4u>	unless you're a business only accepting bitcoin through bitpay
Oct 06 22:06:44 <boonies4u>	accepting only fiat
Oct 06 22:06:47 <rdponticelli>	Basically
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Oct 06 22:08:06 <boonies4u>	*sigh*
Oct 06 22:08:24 <noagendamarket>	If i was the feds i wpould just go around stealing bitcoins and scamming to destroy its confidence
Oct 06 22:08:45 <boonies4u>	some people say MNW was a plant
Oct 06 22:09:04 <noagendamarket>	a pot plant maybe
Oct 06 22:09:28 <boonies4u>	anyone realize if you spin MNW around it reads MNW
Oct 06 22:09:38 <rdponticelli>	I won't have smoked MNW... :/
Oct 06 22:09:39 <boonies4u>	anyone actually know his middle name?
Oct 06 22:10:08 <smickles>	So it looks like the Tucson Chamber of Commerce likes me :D
Oct 06 22:10:15 <mod6>	:)
Oct 06 22:10:22 <mod6>	did you move there yet smickles?
Oct 06 22:10:54 <smickles>	mod6: yeah, I'm here, we found a place to live day before yesterday, and just started putting our stuff in there today
Oct 06 22:11:37 <mod6>	thats awesome. i miss the weather!
Oct 06 22:12:31 <mod6>	.. i gotta head down there soon and visit
Oct 06 22:13:22 <smickles>	sweet, I wonder how many 'bitcoiners' are within range of me now?
Oct 06 22:13:33 <smickles>	(rogue question mark)
Oct 06 22:13:36 <boonies4u>	where are ya?
Oct 06 22:13:43 <boonies4u>	Arizone?
Oct 06 22:13:45 <smickles>	Tucson AZ
Oct 06 22:13:48 <boonies4u>	Arizona*
Oct 06 22:14:31 <boonies4u>	well there's the drug lords in Mexico
Oct 06 22:14:38 <boonies4u>	and the Startups in California
Oct 06 22:14:43 <boonies4u>	and the gold bugs in Texas
Oct 06 22:14:59 <smickles>	the first food joint we went to happend to be a 40 yr old chineese food place, family owned and delicious
Oct 06 22:15:08 <mod6>	nice :)
Oct 06 22:15:26 <mod6>	you'll have to give eegees a try
Oct 06 22:15:28 <boonies4u>	they accept bitcoin?
Oct 06 22:15:41 <boonies4u>	;3
Oct 06 22:15:41 <smickles>	mod6: yeah, they're everywhere!
Oct 06 22:15:57 <noagendamarket>	lots of pirates in texas
Oct 06 22:15:58 <smickles>	boonies4u: I wasn't prepared to pay in btc, so I didn't ask
Oct 06 22:16:02 <mod6>	f yeah, its my personal fav.
Oct 06 22:16:04 <smickles>	but now I should be
Oct 06 22:16:16 <mod6>	<3 t-town
Oct 06 22:16:16 <boonies4u>	smickles: would have been embarrassing if they said yes
Oct 06 22:16:20 <boonies4u>	and you had none
Oct 06 22:16:21 <boonies4u>	XD
Oct 06 22:16:23 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 06 22:16:59 <noagendamarket>	"just ahve to liquidate my illegal shares first "
Oct 06 22:17:05 <smickles>	lol
Oct 06 22:17:21 <boonies4u>	same here
Oct 06 22:17:37 <boonies4u>	I remember it hard to get btc out of GLBSE before
Oct 06 22:17:49 <boonies4u>	now it's like that + Jigsaw
Oct 06 22:18:31 <smickles>	were there developments in the last 8 hous?
Oct 06 22:18:34 <smickles>	*hours
Oct 06 22:19:06 <boonies4u>	*looks out window*
Oct 06 22:19:11 <boonies4u>	THEY STILL MAD
Oct 06 22:19:25 <smickles>	lol
Oct 06 22:19:28 <smickles>	as hell?
Oct 06 22:19:36 <smickles>	are they going to take it anymore?
Oct 06 22:19:39 <boonies4u>	pitchforks_torches.gif
Oct 06 22:20:07 <noagendamarket>	wait till monday I guess
Oct 06 22:20:38 <boonies4u>	i'd bug Theymos
Oct 06 22:20:46 <boonies4u>	smickles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08
Oct 06 22:20:47 <boonies4u>	?
Oct 06 22:21:57 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Oct 06 22:21:58 <noagendamarket>	should just use opensim and run a virtual stock exchaneg inside it
Oct 06 22:22:05 <Diablo-D3>	boonies4u: I was that way for an entire month
Oct 06 22:22:10 <Diablo-D3>	and you know what?
Oct 06 22:22:15 <Diablo-D3>	nefario won in the end
Oct 06 22:22:23 <noagendamarket>	getting mad doesnt do anything.
Oct 06 22:22:44 <boonies4u>	noagendamarket: getting glad makes you a poser though
Oct 06 22:23:23 <Diablo-D3>	so Im going to go back to my default policy
Oct 06 22:23:27 <Diablo-D3>	I simply dont give a fuck.
Oct 06 22:23:33 <Diablo-D3>	And you know what? Im happy!
Oct 06 22:24:03 <boonies4u>	this behavior makes me very apathetic
Oct 06 22:24:11 <Diablo-D3>	No more stress, no more babysitting trolls, no more losing the sleep I already dont get, no more daydreaming about something thats never going to happen, no more fucking bullshit
Oct 06 22:24:40 <boonies4u>	complacency is a disease
Oct 06 22:25:06 <smickles>	boonies4u: what about sex?
Oct 06 22:25:17 <smickles>	or complacent sex?
Oct 06 22:25:19 <boonies4u>	what?
Oct 06 22:25:35 <boonies4u>	...
Oct 06 22:25:36 <smickles>	dunno, just being odd, i suppose
Oct 06 22:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00037067 = 3.336 BTC [-]
Oct 06 22:26:04 <boonies4u>	*cough*
Oct 06 22:26:05 <boonies4u>	ok
Oct 06 22:28:07 <Diablo-D3>	complacency isnt a disease
Oct 06 22:28:15 <Diablo-D3>	long term stress resulting in a heart attach is a disease.
Oct 06 22:28:48 <smickles>	complacency probably causes more heart disease than stress
Oct 06 22:28:54 <____Atlas_____>	Life is a disease
Oct 06 22:28:59 <____Atlas_____>	Cured by death
Oct 06 22:29:00 <smickles>	<jk>fat fucks</jk>
Oct 06 22:29:03 <____Atlas_____>	 /emo
Oct 06 22:29:33 <____Atlas_____>	Some idiot just put a bunch of anarchist propaganda in the Bitcoin wikipedia page.
Oct 06 22:29:58 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, what do I get out of continuing to fight this?
Oct 06 22:30:08 <Diablo-D3>	theres no reward.
Oct 06 22:30:13 <boonies4u>	pro-anarchist propaganda?
Oct 06 22:30:40 <boonies4u>	Diablo-D3: given your behavior, I won't take your seriously
Oct 06 22:30:43 <____Atlas_____>	It was more like "Bitcoin is an anarchist wetdream."
Oct 06 22:30:43 <boonies4u>	from now on
Oct 06 22:30:51 <____Atlas_____>	"Stay the fuck away normal people."
Oct 06 22:30:58 <____Atlas_____>	"WOOO ANARCHY"
Oct 06 22:30:58 <boonies4u>	____Atlas_____: you're an anarchist night-tremor
Oct 06 22:31:05 <boonies4u>	or is it terror?
Oct 06 22:31:18 <____Atlas_____>	I am just totally apolitical at this point.
Oct 06 22:31:24 <boonies4u>	Agorist
Oct 06 22:31:24 <boonies4u>	?
Oct 06 22:31:34 <____Atlas_____>	That would be an apt description.
Oct 06 22:32:18 <Diablo-D3>	boonies4u: take me seriously for what? I spent hundreds of hours trying to move DMC forward
Oct 06 22:32:45 <boonies4u>	hundreds?
Oct 06 22:32:56 <Diablo-D3>	yeah.
Oct 06 22:33:00 <boonies4u>	like 200 hundred, or closer to 1000?
Oct 06 22:33:06 <Diablo-D3>	bottom end of the scale
Oct 06 22:33:51 <____Atlas_____>	I have never heard somebody describe something in 100s of hours
Oct 06 22:33:57 <boonies4u>	oh ok then
Oct 06 22:34:00 <____Atlas_____>	Usually you move on to weeks at that point.
Oct 06 22:34:19 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 06 22:34:19 <gribble>	Best bid: 12.2, Best ask: 12.3098, Bid-ask spread: 0.10980, Last trade: 12.3098, 24 hour volume: 40408, 24 hour low: 11.95, 24 hour high: 12.8136
Oct 06 22:34:25 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 06 22:34:26 <gribble>	12.43
Oct 06 22:34:27 <boonies4u>	____Atlas_____: it means that he didn't put in consistent hours per week
Oct 06 22:34:31 <smickles>	12.2?
Oct 06 22:34:42 <____Atlas_____>	Damn it
Oct 06 22:34:47 <____Atlas_____>	I should of sold this morning
Oct 06 22:34:49 <smickles>	with a low under 12?!@!
Oct 06 22:35:07 <____Atlas_____>	Yeah, just standard weekend dip affair
Oct 06 22:35:15 <____Atlas_____>	Nobody buys on weekends
Oct 06 22:35:19 <____Atlas_____>	so sell sell sell
Oct 06 22:35:24 <boonies4u>	it dipped below 12?
Oct 06 22:35:31 <smickles>	well, combined with a diff increase
Oct 06 22:35:37 <boonies4u>	____Atlas_____: even with GLBSE?
Oct 06 22:35:47 <____Atlas_____>	People could be speculating on that
Oct 06 22:35:49 <smickles>	24 hour low: 11.95, boonies4u
Oct 06 22:35:55 <boonies4u>	"could be"
Oct 06 22:36:19 <boonies4u>	smickles: yeah I saw...
Oct 06 22:36:30 <smickles>	I dunno if glbse affected the exchange rate at all
Oct 06 22:36:42 <smickles>	which is a little sad
Oct 06 22:36:50 <boonies4u>	that you don't know?
Oct 06 22:36:52 <____Atlas_____>	Reasonably, it should
Oct 06 22:36:54 <smickles>	what have we been doing that had so little affect
Oct 06 22:37:00 <____Atlas_____>	Mining bonds and all that jazz
Oct 06 22:37:14 <smickles>	ag, that carp
Oct 06 22:37:18 <____Atlas_____>	Apparently BFL was in cohoots with GLBSE
Oct 06 22:37:27 <smickles>	howso?
Oct 06 22:37:27 <____Atlas_____>	Planning to make things more, erm, efficient.
Oct 06 22:37:39 <____Atlas_____>	They wanted to give GLBSE issuers the first batch of rigs
Oct 06 22:37:52 <____Atlas_____>	So it was the start of something nice for once
Oct 06 22:38:15 <____Atlas_____>	This is just statements on the forums but it is likely true
Oct 06 22:38:20 <____Atlas_____>	was*
Oct 06 22:38:44 <Diablo-D3>	[10:34:00] <____Atlas_____> Usually you move on to weeks at that point.
Oct 06 22:38:48 <Diablo-D3>	weeks doesnt make sense
Oct 06 22:38:49 <boonies4u>	I wish the best of luck to Giga
Oct 06 22:38:59 <Diablo-D3>	what is a week? 40 hours? 60? 80? 20?
Oct 06 22:39:07 <____Atlas_____>	40 hours
Oct 06 22:39:13 <____Atlas_____>	Unless you're in China
Oct 06 22:39:15 <Diablo-D3>	40 means you're a slacker.
Oct 06 22:39:16 <boonies4u>	Diablo-D3: you probably didn't put 40 in a week
Oct 06 22:39:17 <____Atlas_____>	or a workaholic
Oct 06 22:39:18 <____Atlas_____>	oh lawd
Oct 06 22:39:35 <Diablo-D3>	companies dont startup on only 40 hours a week.
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Oct 06 22:39:55 <boonies4u>	what did you do again?
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Oct 06 22:40:27 <Diablo-D3>	boonies4u: in the end? nothing much
Oct 06 22:40:42 <Diablo-D3>	all I did was dance to nefario's tune while he fucked my shareholders
Oct 06 22:41:04 <boonies4u>	what were you doing that took 40+ hours a week?
Oct 06 22:41:17 <Diablo-D3>	boonies4u: you do know what DMC was doing, right?
Oct 06 22:41:29 <boonies4u>	mining?
Oct 06 22:41:36 <Diablo-D3>	a little bigger than that.
Oct 06 22:41:42 <boonies4u>	Diablo Mining Company right?
Oct 06 22:41:50 <Diablo-D3>	a green energy powered data center focusing on high density computing.
Oct 06 22:41:55 <Diablo-D3>	mining was just a small part of it.
Oct 06 22:42:06 <boonies4u>	high density computing?
Oct 06 22:42:34 <noagendamarket>	DMC had no equipment
Oct 06 22:42:40 <boonies4u>	as in, if cooling fails, your computers will overheat quickly?
Oct 06 22:43:13 <boonies4u>	I only really paid attention to the turds
Oct 06 22:43:24 <boonies4u>	if you weren't selling turds, you probably weren't on my radar
Oct 06 22:43:31 <boonies4u>	or didn't have the volume to attract me
Oct 06 22:44:00 <Diablo-D3>	boonies4u: cooling fails? heh, not with redundant cooling
Oct 06 22:44:06 <Diablo-D3>	Im talking about shit mounted in racks.
Oct 06 22:44:16 <Diablo-D3>	or rather, 25-30kw of shit mounted in racks, per rack.
Oct 06 22:44:29 <boonies4u>	that's what I imagined
Oct 06 22:44:54 <boonies4u>	so what did the shares represent? % ownership?
Oct 06 22:45:12 <Diablo-D3>	yup.
Oct 06 22:45:20 <boonies4u>	oh shit
Oct 06 22:45:25 <boonies4u>	you anonymous?
Oct 06 22:45:45 <Diablo-D3>	doesnt matter, x% of zero is still zero.
Oct 06 22:45:57 <____Atlas_____>	http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif
Oct 06 22:46:28 <boonies4u>	i'm confused, do you have any assets?
Oct 06 22:46:35 <noagendamarket>	no
Oct 06 22:46:42 <Diablo-D3>	boonies4u: physical? no
Oct 06 22:46:56 <Diablo-D3>	for the short term, I was reinvesting it into other companies
Oct 06 22:47:02 <boonies4u>	oh lawd
Oct 06 22:47:15 <boonies4u>	____Atlas_____: why did you link a 1x1 gif?
Oct 06 22:47:31 <____Atlas_____>	Are you blind?
Oct 06 22:47:33 <____Atlas_____>	lol
Oct 06 22:47:38 <____Atlas_____>	idk
Oct 06 22:47:41 <Diablo-D3>	____Atlas_____: that isnt the image you thought it was
Oct 06 22:47:46 <____Atlas_____>	nope
Oct 06 22:47:51 <boonies4u>	title : qm.gif (1x1)
Oct 06 22:48:19 <Diablo-D3>	boonies4u: a million dollar project does not get done overnight.
Oct 06 22:48:24 <Diablo-D3>	Im not sure why people think it does.
Oct 06 22:48:53 <boonies4u>	i was oh lawding at your reinvesting
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Oct 06 22:50:11 <____Atlas_____>	http://i.imgur.com/sSIhV.png
Oct 06 22:50:51 <Diablo-D3>	yup, and thanks to nefario's bullshit, a large part of that money was burned
Oct 06 22:51:00 <Diablo-D3>	and then thanks to MORE of nefario's bullshit, it all burned
Oct 06 22:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0003711 = 3.711 BTC [+]
Oct 06 22:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25460 @ 0.00037111 = 9.4485 BTC [+]
Oct 06 22:51:05 <Diablo-D3>	and so did everyone else's
Oct 06 22:51:30 <boonies4u>	I can understand why you are apathetic
Oct 06 22:51:46 <boonies4u>	I bet your shareholders love it *rolls eyes*
Oct 06 22:51:57 <Diablo-D3>	well, they'll have to fight nefario, not me
Oct 06 22:52:11 <Diablo-D3>	Ive fought enough for the community, its time for them to return the favor
Oct 06 22:52:32 <noagendamarket>	glbse is controlled by nefarios lawyer
Oct 06 22:52:54 <boonies4u>	who i probably butting heads with Theymos
Oct 06 22:52:58 <noagendamarket>	yes
Oct 06 22:53:19 <noagendamarket>	theymos doesnt agree with lawyers lol
Oct 06 22:53:30 <boonies4u>	I'd bet Theymos is the voice of reason
Oct 06 22:55:02 <noagendamarket>	even if we removed nefario as ceo it wouldnt have mattered
Oct 06 22:55:57 <boonies4u>	this is about Goat right?
Oct 06 22:56:19 <Diablo-D3>	heh, goat
Oct 06 22:56:34 <Diablo-D3>	at one point I was saying Im glad I sold all of my goat holding
Oct 06 22:56:37 <Diablo-D3>	*holdings
Oct 06 22:56:40 <Diablo-D3>	guess it doesnt matter now
Oct 06 22:57:57 <noagendamarket>	its more likely to be about the pirate stuff than anything
Oct 06 22:58:43 <noagendamarket>	if glbse had ID requirements inn the first place most likely the pirate stuff wouldnt have gotten so nuts
Oct 06 22:59:08 <boonies4u>	inn the first place..
Oct 06 22:59:14 <boonies4u>	*writes that down*
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Oct 06 23:10:15 <noagendamarket>	:P
Oct 06 23:13:22 <boonies4u>	anyone willing to lend me the difference between my 99 btc and the total cost of two BFL FPGA singles?
Oct 06 23:14:12 <noagendamarket>	BFL is a scam :P
Oct 06 23:14:28 <boonies4u>	you mean the FPGA's that currently exist are a scam?
Oct 06 23:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	noagendamarket ya, but so is bitcoin
Oct 06 23:14:34 <noagendamarket>	lol
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Oct 06 23:15:04 <boonies4u>	;;roulette
Oct 06 23:15:05 <gribble>	*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
Oct 06 23:15:05 *	gribble reloads and spins the chambers.
Oct 06 23:15:08 <boonies4u>	crap
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Oct 06 23:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;echo ;;roulette
Oct 06 23:16:03 <gribble>	;;roulette
Oct 06 23:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	wellll ?
Oct 06 23:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	.echo ;;roulette
Oct 06 23:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 400 @ 0.0035 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Oct 06 23:19:00 <boonies4u>	mircea_popescu: trying to get assbot to do ;;roulette?
Oct 06 23:19:08 <boonies4u>	lol
Oct 06 23:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Oct 06 23:34:15 <____Atlas_____>	;;roulette
Oct 06 23:34:15 <gribble>	*click*
Oct 06 23:34:19 <____Atlas_____>	;;roulette
Oct 06 23:34:20 <gribble>	*click*
Oct 06 23:34:20 <____Atlas_____>	;;roulette
Oct 06 23:34:21 <gribble>	*click*
Oct 06 23:34:22 <____Atlas_____>	;;roulette
Oct 06 23:34:22 <gribble>	*click*
Oct 06 23:34:24 <____Atlas_____>	;;roulette
Oct 06 23:34:24 <gribble>	*click*
Oct 06 23:34:27 <____Atlas_____>	/fire
Oct 06 23:34:34 <____Atlas_____>	;;fire
Oct 06 23:34:34 <gribble>	Error: "fire" is not a valid command.
Oct 06 23:34:38 <____Atlas_____>	;;shoot
Oct 06 23:34:38 <gribble>	Error: "shoot" is not a valid command.
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Oct 06 23:34:53 <____Atlas_____>	;;roulette
Oct 06 23:34:53 <gribble>	*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
Oct 06 23:34:54 *	gribble reloads and spins the chambers.
Oct 06 23:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23628 @ 0.00037366 = 8.8288 BTC [+]
Oct 06 23:35:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53300 @ 0.00037067 = 19.7567 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51500 @ 0.0003706 = 19.0859 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47700 @ 0.00037005 = 17.6514 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00037 = 2.849 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3583 @ 0.00036906 = 1.3223 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:05 <____Atlas_____>	Blanks can still kill
Oct 06 23:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42256 @ 0.00036883 = 15.5853 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00036878 = 0.0922 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57496 @ 0.00036869 = 21.1982 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11784 @ 0.00036756 = 4.3313 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00036731 = 5.1056 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00036651 = 11.6917 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00036611 = 15.6329 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58959 @ 0.00036537 = 21.5418 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62800 @ 0.00036149 = 22.7016 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.000351 = 0.8775 BTC [-]
Oct 06 23:35:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153359 @ 0.00035 = 53.6757 BTC [-]
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Oct 06 23:37:13 <grubles>	someones taking a dump on mpoe
Oct 06 23:37:13 <____Atlas_____>	http://blockchain.info/charts/total-bitcoins
Oct 06 23:37:21 <____Atlas_____>	What happened in September?
Oct 06 23:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	they hate meee
Oct 06 23:37:46 <grubles>	<3 mircea_popescu
Oct 06 23:37:51 <mircea_popescu>	:)
Oct 06 23:38:02 <cryptorific>	____Atlas_____: a large increase in hashing capacity
Oct 06 23:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	ya, btc time is not fixed to irl time
Oct 06 23:39:39 <cryptorific>	the difficulty adjustments weren't enough to compensate for the large and irregular hash power increase as far as i can see
Oct 06 23:42:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate 1 Kumala vircurex/cryptostocks guy.
Oct 06 23:42:14 <gribble>	Error: 'Kumala' is not a valid integer.
Oct 06 23:42:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate Kumala 1 vircurex/cryptostocks guy.
Oct 06 23:42:19 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system.
Oct 06 23:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	ggrrr
Oct 06 23:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate Kumala 1 vircurex/cryptostocks guy.
Oct 06 23:43:18 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Kumala has been recorded.
Oct 06 23:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	halelujah.
Oct 06 23:46:31 <____Atlas_____>	So we may end up seeing all the BTC generated earlier than 2030?
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Oct 06 23:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	____Atlas_____ its quite probable.
Oct 06 23:49:03 <____Atlas_____>	Man I'll be old then
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Oct 06 23:53:56 <____Atlas_____>	Old men running the world. A new age!
Oct 06 23:53:58 <____Atlas_____>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxi7JRJrod4
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Oct 06 23:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla add cryptostox stream ? http://twitter.com/Cryptostocks
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Oct 06 23:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	but pleaze filter to btc only omg.
Oct 06 23:59:27 <grubles>	what the heck is DVC?
Oct 06 23:59:36 <grubles>	and DVB?
Oct 06 23:59:38 <mircea_popescu>	devscamcoins
Oct 06 23:59:40 <dub>	double vaginal coin
Oct 06 23:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	and devscambutts
Oct 07 00:00:08 <grubles>	ah devcoins
Oct 07 00:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 480 @ 0.0035 = 1.68 BTC [+]
Oct 07 00:00:15 <grubles>	wtf is a devcoin
Oct 07 00:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol. grubbies, why don you make your own coin ?
Oct 07 00:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	grublits.
Oct 07 00:01:25 <____Atlas_____>	grubles: an alt coin out of many
Oct 07 00:01:38 <____Atlas_____>	Soon we will have more currencies than the old American confederacy
Oct 07 00:02:29 <mircea_popescu>	they never had as many as we do
Oct 07 00:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	solidcoin counts as 10.
Oct 07 00:02:32 <grubles>	mircea_popescu, because i believe in buttcoins
Oct 07 00:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	aaa, but do buttcoins believe in you ?
Oct 07 00:03:00 <grubles>	that is the age old question
Oct 07 00:04:28 <____Atlas_____>	We need a Buttcoin
Oct 07 00:05:46 <cryptorific>	lol, just to make fun of the trolls?
Oct 07 00:06:30 <____Atlas_____>	Ha, they would have as much fun
Oct 07 00:06:36 <____Atlas_____>	and they would probably use them for shit
Oct 07 00:07:22 <grubles>	have you ever squeezed your buttcheeks so hard you cracked your lower back?
Oct 07 00:08:09 <____Atlas_____>	I think you need more fiber if you experience that
Oct 07 00:08:44 <grubles>	fiber has nothing to do with it
Oct 07 00:09:02 <grubles>	sitting on my ass has everything to do with it
Oct 07 00:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Oct 07 00:11:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00035 / 0.0003698 / 0.00037575 (2318319 shares, 857.32 BTC), 30day: 0.00034 / 0.00038476 / 0.00042 (65387672 shares, 25,158.64 BTC)
Oct 07 00:22:36 <noagendamarket>	you can trade toilet paper for buttcoins
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Oct 07 00:24:59 <grubles>	noagendamarket, wtt 10 tp for 20 btc?
Oct 07 00:25:21 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 00:25:36 <noagendamarket>	its easy to mail toilet paper
Oct 07 00:25:58 <noagendamarket>	double or single ply ?
Oct 07 00:26:13 <grubles>	as many as you want holmes
Oct 07 00:26:32 <grubles>	i have a direct connect to a supplier in columbia
Oct 07 00:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25032 @ 0.00030391 = 7.6075 BTC [-]
Oct 07 00:27:13 <noagendamarket>	I wonder if you had lsd on toliet paper if you wiped your butt you would get high lol
Oct 07 00:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	cocaine leaf tp
Oct 07 00:27:24 <noagendamarket>	bahaha
Oct 07 00:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	for all your hhemorhhidal news
Oct 07 00:27:28 <mircea_popescu>	needs*
Oct 07 00:27:36 <noagendamarket>	heroin wipes :P
Oct 07 00:28:27 <cryptorific>	noagendamarket: you'd have to rub it hard but yea, the skin is pretty thin there and could easily transfer
Oct 07 00:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	whole new dimension to chipping
Oct 07 00:29:04 <cryptorific>	i knew some hippie ass chicks that would stick weaker acid tabs in their vaginas to help absorb more
Oct 07 00:29:11 <noagendamarket>	heh
Oct 07 00:29:17 <____Atlas_____>	what did i just read
Oct 07 00:29:28 <____Atlas_____>	out of context
Oct 07 00:29:32 <____Atlas_____>	that was interesting
Oct 07 00:29:47 <grubles>	cryptorific, that makes more sense than getting high off of wiping your ass
Oct 07 00:29:55 <noagendamarket>	LOL
Oct 07 00:30:17 <grubles>	but i can definitely bet one would get high off of wiping their ass with blotter paper
Oct 07 00:31:17 <____Atlas_____>	http://i.imgur.com/8xfIV.jpg
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Oct 07 00:32:49 <____Atlas_____>	nope, that's a real -- replica
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Oct 07 00:48:54 <boonies4u>	I have come up with 4 options moving forward when it comes to the loan I received.
Oct 07 00:49:23 <boonies4u>	while, i created this for my lenders, if anyone has anything to say regarding them, it would be appreciated
Oct 07 00:49:24 <boonies4u>	http://pastebin.com/9ZQnzK8R
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Oct 07 00:52:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00030847 = 13.8812 BTC [+]
Oct 07 00:54:13 <noagendamarket>	How much coin are you looking for ?
Oct 07 00:55:32 <boonies4u>	noagendamarket: it depends on which path I decide to take
Oct 07 00:55:55 <boonies4u>	and the price of bitcoin when I get the order instructions from BFL
Oct 07 00:56:11 <boonies4u>	I received 99 BTC when my loan closed
Oct 07 00:57:05 <boonies4u>	and I need a loan to cover the difference between that and either pre-ordering one Bitforce Single SC
Oct 07 00:57:22 <____Atlas_____>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CHwwwJ83oWo
Oct 07 00:57:36 <boonies4u>	or to cover the difference between the 99 BTC and ordering two Bitforce FPGA Singles
Oct 07 00:57:52 <____Atlas_____>	boonies4u, you're not getting that ASIC until january if you order now
Oct 07 00:58:05 <boonies4u>	____Atlas_____: yes I know
Oct 07 00:58:16 <boonies4u>	I mentioned the delay in the pastebin
Oct 07 00:58:20 <____Atlas_____>	I would wait until Bitcoin hits $20
Oct 07 00:58:22 <____Atlas_____>	then order
Oct 07 00:58:52 <boonies4u>	____Atlas_____: My loan has weekly payments.
Oct 07 00:59:24 <boonies4u>	by the time bitcoin hits 20 dollars, I won't have any bitcoins
Oct 07 00:59:37 <____Atlas_____>	Hmm
Oct 07 00:59:39 <____Atlas_____>	I see
Oct 07 01:00:14 <boonies4u>	I may have to delay payments, but I don't want to delay them more than necessary
Oct 07 01:00:34 <boonies4u>	I also think bitcoin will hit 10 dollars before it its 20
Oct 07 01:02:47 <boonies4u>	I just hope I get some feedback from my lenders before I choose a path.
Oct 07 01:04:46 <boonies4u>	you had 3 shots of it?
Oct 07 01:04:49 <boonies4u>	wrong chat lol
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Oct 07 01:08:32 <noagendamarket>	Would be better if instead of a loan a minng investment group could be formed
Oct 07 01:08:59 <noagendamarket>	meh
Oct 07 01:09:53 <noagendamarket>	raising bitcoin to invest in rigs isnt a good idea. Raising fiat is better
Oct 07 01:10:12 <____Atlas_____>	noagendamarket: Not if you want returns in Bitcoin
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Oct 07 01:11:35 <boonies4u>	yeah, the lower bitcoin drops, the more in fiat/bitcoin I will have to borrow ontop of the 99 BTC I already have
Oct 07 01:12:22 <noagendamarket>	Use the btc as collateral on a usd loan for equipment.
Oct 07 01:12:24 <____Atlas_____>	This drop overblown. Some speculators think GLBSE has bitcoin went most of the mining companies were sitting in incubation
Oct 07 01:12:47 <____Atlas_____>	GLBSE has effected*
Oct 07 01:13:11 <boonies4u>	noagendamarket: use the btc I received from the loan as collateral to receive a USD loan to buy an FPGA/ASIC?
Oct 07 01:13:26 <noagendamarket>	essentially yes
Oct 07 01:13:35 <____Atlas_____>	lol
Oct 07 01:13:40 <____Atlas_____>	I heard you like loans
Oct 07 01:13:45 <noagendamarket>	then you only [ay fiat interest rates lol
Oct 07 01:13:47 <____Atlas_____>	so we put a loan on your loan
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Oct 07 01:14:06 <boonies4u>	noagendamarket: the nature of my loan now has weekly payments in BTC
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Oct 07 01:14:42 <noagendamarket>	that could get awkward if the btc price shoots up
Oct 07 01:14:58 <boonies4u>	and I could never cover the interest
Oct 07 01:15:05 <noagendamarket>	while youe equipment and amount mined drops
Oct 07 01:15:59 <boonies4u>	it would be awkward
Oct 07 01:16:11 <noagendamarket>	thats where fixed mining bonds came in :P
Oct 07 01:16:33 <boonies4u>	i wish I had turds right now
Oct 07 01:16:45 <boonies4u>	at least if i had turds I could make weekly payments from day 1
Oct 07 01:16:59 <noagendamarket>	turds are giood for the issuer not the one buying them
Oct 07 01:17:09 <____Atlas_____>	then why do people buy them? :P
Oct 07 01:17:10 <boonies4u>	i'm a middle man though
Oct 07 01:17:18 <____Atlas_____>	did*
Oct 07 01:17:33 <noagendamarket>	Atlas they dont understand them :P
Oct 07 01:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00030465 = 5.4228 BTC [-]
Oct 07 01:17:48 <noagendamarket>	and the price they pay is way too high
Oct 07 01:17:50 <boonies4u>	turds work for those willing to buy more turds
Oct 07 01:18:03 <boonies4u>	you have to reinvest as with normal mining
Oct 07 01:18:08 <noagendamarket>	yep
Oct 07 01:18:26 <noagendamarket>	but not when tards push the price way up
Oct 07 01:18:43 <boonies4u>	when they push it way up, you dump and buy a turd that's cheaper
Oct 07 01:18:44 <____Atlas_____>	When I first looked at them, bought them and then fully understood the, I sold lol
Oct 07 01:18:49 <noagendamarket>	because they dont understand math
Oct 07 01:18:57 <____Atlas_____>	I realized they decreased overtime right off and I was shocked at the scam
Oct 07 01:19:06 <____Atlas_____>	them*
Oct 07 01:19:12 <boonies4u>	I love how they work
Oct 07 01:19:27 <noagendamarket>	you can issue a turd without any equipment literally LOL
Oct 07 01:19:59 <boonies4u>	that's basically what I was doing
Oct 07 01:20:10 <noagendamarket>	why would you buy any and pay the electricity etc ?
Oct 07 01:20:11 <boonies4u>	except mine is a real loan
Oct 07 01:20:31 <noagendamarket>	doing it wrong :P
Oct 07 01:20:45 <noagendamarket>	use cryptostocks to make a turd
Oct 07 01:21:21 <boonies4u>	I think we're going to see a re-emergence of mining contracts
Oct 07 01:21:30 <boonies4u>	at least until turds come back
Oct 07 01:21:50 <noagendamarket>	someone could make a site where you can buy and sell mining contracts easily
Oct 07 01:22:22 <____Atlas_____>	People will eventually wisen up
Oct 07 01:22:26 <____Atlas_____>	It may take a year
Oct 07 01:22:28 <____Atlas_____>	but they will
Oct 07 01:22:33 <cryptorific>	noagendamarket: like gpumax?
Oct 07 01:22:46 <boonies4u>	cryptorific: no, a bit more different
Oct 07 01:22:51 <noagendamarket>	sort of.
Oct 07 01:22:54 <boonies4u>	more like shakaru's uhmmm
Oct 07 01:22:58 <boonies4u>	what was it called?
Oct 07 01:23:37 <noagendamarket>	scam ?
Oct 07 01:23:41 <boonies4u>	LOL
Oct 07 01:23:41 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 01:24:02 <boonies4u>	essentially a mining contract is buying the future performance of a rig
Oct 07 01:24:15 <noagendamarket>	yes
Oct 07 01:24:36 <boonies4u>	typically when you buy the contract, you pay less than the predicted mined coins it will generate
Oct 07 01:25:05 <boonies4u>	the operator has the benefit of receiving coins up front, and will profit if difficulty jumps
Oct 07 01:25:21 <noagendamarket>	its essentially a bet on difficulty
Oct 07 01:25:54 <boonies4u>	GPUMAX, mining contracts, turds, and % ownership bonds are all bets
Oct 07 01:26:16 <cryptorific>	a bet on difficulty is just a bet on bitcoin price, a higher price will encourage more mining, a lower price will discourage it, you might as well just buy the bitcoin
Oct 07 01:27:12 <boonies4u>	they don't move in lockstep though
Oct 07 01:27:15 <____Atlas_____>	Now as for actual mining?
Oct 07 01:27:46 <noagendamarket>	mining is zero summ if you cant expand your operation infinitely
Oct 07 01:27:47 <boonies4u>	actually mining is a myth
Oct 07 01:27:56 <boonies4u>	^
Oct 07 01:28:04 <boonies4u>	just likes Farms in the US
Oct 07 01:28:18 <boonies4u>	you will either eat, or be eaten
Oct 07 01:28:33 <____Atlas_____>	Well, what a joke of an industry
Oct 07 01:28:43 <noagendamarket>	mining contracts are only for equipment that is already operating :)
Oct 07 01:29:18 <____Atlas_____>	So there's no way I can turn my 100 Bitcoins into more Bitcoins by buyign mining equipment?
Oct 07 01:30:02 <boonies4u>	no, you can make more bitcoins
Oct 07 01:30:09 <noagendamarket>	you can turn them into 50 bitcoins
Oct 07 01:30:13 <____Atlas_____>	lol
Oct 07 01:30:21 <noagendamarket>	its true
Oct 07 01:30:23 <____Atlas_____>	I just don't get it
Oct 07 01:30:43 <____Atlas_____>	Is the market just over saturated?
Oct 07 01:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 4 @ 0.21612236 = 0.8645 BTC [+]
Oct 07 01:30:53 <boonies4u>	you have to put a certain amount of your mined coins into expansion, equaling that of difficulty growth
Oct 07 01:30:59 <noagendamarket>	you cnat beat simply holding bitcoins
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Oct 07 01:31:12 <noagendamarket>	^^^^^ what boonies said
Oct 07 01:31:21 <boonies4u>	the more you are willing to reinvest, the better you grow compared to the rest of the network
Oct 07 01:31:55 <boonies4u>	buying turd and holding it is essentially the same as buying a rig and holding it
Oct 07 01:32:00 <noagendamarket>	you cant just invest 100btc you need to keep reinvesting more.
Oct 07 01:32:23 <boonies4u>	if you're long bitcoin, yeah, it's best for you to hold bitcoins
Oct 07 01:32:58 <boonies4u>	noagendamarket: but, the good news is that if you're competitive, you will grow faster than others
Oct 07 01:32:58 <____Atlas_____>	So what incentive is there to sustain the bitcoin network then? Fiat profits?
Oct 07 01:33:40 <boonies4u>	well, the cycle of reinvestment secures the network
Oct 07 01:33:53 <boonies4u>	sustaining the network is a side effect
Oct 07 01:34:11 <____Atlas_____>	My mind is full of fuck
Oct 07 01:34:18 <____Atlas_____>	I think people are just retarded at this point
Oct 07 01:34:26 <noagendamarket>	Its becauise bitcoin is deflationary
Oct 07 01:34:55 <____Atlas_____>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tYaW8rSttqc#!
Oct 07 01:34:58 <boonies4u>	you just have to grow slightly faster than the network
Oct 07 01:35:01 <noagendamarket>	If a bitcoin is worth more in a month why would you invest it in a business ?
Oct 07 01:35:43 <boonies4u>	noagendamarket: because you can't retire on the difference?
Oct 07 01:35:47 <noagendamarket>	boonies4u eventually you end up with the entire planet covered in mining rigs LOL
Oct 07 01:36:23 <boonies4u>	noagendamarket: eventually an entire space station will be heated by mining rigs
Oct 07 01:36:35 <noagendamarket>	you cant have infinite growth with limited resources
Oct 07 01:36:46 <boonies4u>	uhhh
Oct 07 01:36:56 <boonies4u>	eventually we will be planet cracking
Oct 07 01:37:22 <noagendamarket>	sure. If the oil doesnt run out before then :P
Oct 07 01:37:42 <cryptorific>	____Atlas_____: lol, i need a dubstep version of that
Oct 07 01:38:16 <boonies4u>	Deus Ex survived oil crisis
Oct 07 01:38:17 <boonies4u>	so can we
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Oct 07 01:39:04 <knotwork>	dont spend bitcoins, use them as collateral to borrow something that appreciates slower or not at all
Oct 07 01:39:07 <noagendamarket>	yeah all the humans will die and turn into oil :P
Oct 07 01:39:58 <knotwork>	borrow devcoins, use them to buy more bitcoins = more collateral to borrow more devcoins to buy more bitcoins etc
Oct 07 01:40:09 <boonies4u>	I haven't considered using my bitcoin as collateral
Oct 07 01:40:24 <boonies4u>	is anyone really that short on bitcoin willing to do that?
Oct 07 01:40:41 <knotwork>	no its for people long on bitcoin
Oct 07 01:40:50 <cryptorific>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv5gBFqzQfY seasteading, bitcoin and 3d printing
Oct 07 01:40:52 <knotwork>	they are confident it will go up faster than devcoin
Oct 07 01:41:00 <boonies4u>	yeah, because if bitcoins are worthless, i have no incentive to return the loaned fiat
Oct 07 01:41:00 <noagendamarket>	^^^
Oct 07 01:41:35 <noagendamarket>	your coins will probably be sold off before then
Oct 07 01:41:53 <noagendamarket>	to cover the loan
Oct 07 01:41:56 <boonies4u>	I suppose they get they get the benefit of having bitcoin to invest while i have the fiat
Oct 07 01:42:04 <knotwork>	no not to invest
Oct 07 01:42:11 <knotwork>	only to sell to cover your debt
Oct 07 01:42:14 <____Atlas_____>	Okay, let's say the whole mining community realizes they are mining at Bitcoin-loss
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Oct 07 01:42:18 <____Atlas_____>	What would happen?
Oct 07 01:42:21 <boonies4u>	knotwork: i'm not talking about devcoin
Oct 07 01:42:34 <knotwork>	and usually only 50% leverage, thus lots of safety marging as you only borrow half what your bitcoins are worth
Oct 07 01:42:45 <boonies4u>	____Atlas_____: people with free electricity will always mine
Oct 07 01:42:53 <boonies4u>	i'm mining litecoins right now XD
Oct 07 01:42:55 <knotwork>	fiat is even better than devcoin to borrow probably as it tends to go down in value
Oct 07 01:43:11 <noagendamarket>	I use an android phone and a solar panel to mine litecoins lol
Oct 07 01:43:28 <boonies4u>	oops, actually i'm not mining right now
Oct 07 01:44:12 <boonies4u>	I have people who watch the stream http://www.imthorrbo.com to mine litecoins to buy ads for the site
Oct 07 01:44:15 <boonies4u>	http://www.litecoinpool.org/api?format=html&api_key=4dbbb934d870422b68f88ee7b5fbf3c8
Oct 07 01:44:44 <boonies4u>	if you've seen the Thorrbo banner ad on the forum, it's the same guy
Oct 07 01:48:09 <noagendamarket>	Need a site like cointube.tv but for porn
Oct 07 01:48:14 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 01:49:12 <noagendamarket>	coinporn.tv lol
Oct 07 01:49:23 <boonies4u>	I couldn't finish a video, so i'd never make any mbtc XD
Oct 07 01:49:28 <noagendamarket>	bahahah
Oct 07 01:49:46 <noagendamarket>	make 2 minutes of btc at a time
Oct 07 01:50:03 <boonies4u>	maybe we need a cointube for motherless?
Oct 07 01:50:15 <noagendamarket>	sure :P
Oct 07 01:50:33 <boonies4u>	go ahead and make it!
Oct 07 01:50:45 <boonies4u>	just make it seem like a mining OP on the outside so I can invest
Oct 07 01:50:57 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 01:51:10 <boonies4u>	:0
Oct 07 01:51:16 <boonies4u>	I could invest into pyramining!
Oct 07 01:51:27 <boonies4u>	LOL
Oct 07 01:51:32 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 01:51:57 <boonies4u>	*does math to humor myself*
Oct 07 01:51:59 <noagendamarket>	pussymining :P
Oct 07 01:53:33 <boonies4u>	what return does pyramining give again?
Oct 07 01:55:01 <____Atlas_____>	;;ticker
Oct 07 01:55:01 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.97417, Best ask: 12.08798, Bid-ask spread: 0.11381, Last trade: 12.08798, 24 hour volume: 55460, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.8
Oct 07 01:55:08 <____Atlas_____>	holu
Oct 07 01:55:13 <____Atlas_____>	holy
Oct 07 01:55:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120N] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 01:56:54 <boonies4u>	Smoovious: hey, I need a pyramining link!
Oct 07 01:57:19 <boonies4u>	lol
Oct 07 01:57:41 <noagendamarket>	theres heaps on te forum
Oct 07 01:57:51 <boonies4u>	found one :P
Oct 07 01:58:34 <boonies4u>	I need to find out what return I would be getting
Oct 07 01:58:47 <boonies4u>	assuming I don't bring in any referrals
Oct 07 01:59:33 <boonies4u>	I don't think a single lender is going to comment on my pastebin
Oct 07 02:00:05 <boonies4u>	and that makes me feel sad...
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Oct 07 02:05:02 <noagendamarket>	Honestly the entire lending market is dead.
Oct 07 02:06:03 <noagendamarket>	If your loacl credit union  did bitcoin loans it would be different
Oct 07 02:06:11 <boonies4u>	I got paid 100 bitcoins to buy turds
Oct 07 02:06:21 <boonies4u>	i wouldn't call it dead
Oct 07 02:06:42 <noagendamarket>	You were gonna invest in glbse bonds ?
Oct 07 02:07:17 <boonies4u>	lol yes
Oct 07 02:07:24 <noagendamarket>	why would people loan you when they cdould invest themselves ?
Oct 07 02:07:26 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 02:07:50 <noagendamarket>	litecoinglobal.com isnt bad
Oct 07 02:08:00 <boonies4u>	because they can go through btcjam to go after me for collection
Oct 07 02:08:07 <noagendamarket>	sure
Oct 07 02:08:23 <boonies4u>	does litecoinglobal have mining turds?
Oct 07 02:08:38 <noagendamarket>	yep
Oct 07 02:08:46 <boonies4u>	hmmm
Oct 07 02:08:50 <noagendamarket>	lite turds LOL
Oct 07 02:09:11 <boonies4u>	for mining litecoins?
Oct 07 02:09:28 <noagendamarket>	I dont know how a site registered in brazil can collect on someone living  in the states :P
Oct 07 02:09:52 <noagendamarket>	maybe they chase you down and give you a brazilian wax if you dont repay
Oct 07 02:09:55 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 02:10:06 <boonies4u>	i think they turn over my dox to lenders
Oct 07 02:10:15 <noagendamarket>	Can you only lend to people in your lo\cal area ?>
Oct 07 02:10:31 <noagendamarket>	Say if Im austrralian I only want to lend to other aussies
Oct 07 02:10:39 <boonies4u>	no, i really have no idea how collection will work
Oct 07 02:10:51 <boonies4u>	I hope I don't have to find out
Oct 07 02:11:00 <noagendamarket>	since I can take it to small claims :P
Oct 07 02:11:32 <noagendamarket>	dont want to lend to someone in texas i have no hope of collectiong from
Oct 07 02:11:56 <noagendamarket>	localbitcoins+btcjam = win
Oct 07 02:12:05 <boonies4u>	if I decide to pre-order the ASIC, would you be willing to loan the difference?
Oct 07 02:12:25 <boonies4u>	it would be a small amount
Oct 07 02:12:31 <boonies4u>	and i'd pay you back first
Oct 07 02:14:00 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 02:14:32 <boonies4u>	don't have to worry about me skipping town, cause you'd be paid back first
Oct 07 02:14:41 <boonies4u>	if that's your concern
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Oct 07 02:18:15 <boonies4u>	so out of the 4 options I listed, what would you say is the best move?
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Oct 07 02:20:57 <noagendamarket>	Getting a single now is better than waiting for vapourware
Oct 07 02:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50168 @ 0.00030409 = 15.2556 BTC [-]
Oct 07 02:21:35 <noagendamarket>	Depends really how long till asics arrive
Oct 07 02:22:25 <noagendamarket>	At least the BFL has an upgrade path
Oct 07 02:22:59 <boonies4u>	that's what I was thinking
Oct 07 02:22:59 <noagendamarket>	Another alternative is contact Inaba and ask him to mine for you
Oct 07 02:23:13 <boonies4u>	Inaba still does contacts?
Oct 07 02:23:15 <noagendamarket>	You contract him to host the singles
Oct 07 02:23:26 <noagendamarket>	Im not sure but you could ask
Oct 07 02:23:49 <boonies4u>	you have any links?
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Oct 07 02:26:35 <noagendamarket>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91940.0  thats a different guy doing the same thing
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Oct 07 02:27:51 <noagendamarket>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75433.0  essentially thats what bfls does
Oct 07 02:28:04 <noagendamarket>	he doesnt need glbse to sell you the shares
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Oct 07 02:30:10 <boonies4u>	Inaba's has a link to a glbse ipo
Oct 07 02:30:11 <boonies4u>	lol
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Oct 07 02:30:34 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 02:30:42 <noagendamarket>	Just send him a pm
Oct 07 02:31:28 <noagendamarket>	When you get bfls shares you can basically redeem so many for an actual device
Oct 07 02:31:32 <boonies4u>	kind of like rent-to-own FPGAs?
Oct 07 02:31:33 <boonies4u>	:P
Oct 07 02:31:36 <noagendamarket>	yes
Oct 07 02:31:54 <boonies4u>	that's perfect
Oct 07 02:32:10 <boonies4u>	i'm still waiting to hear back from investors though
Oct 07 02:32:11 <boonies4u>	and BFL
Oct 07 02:33:46 <noagendamarket>	The downside with glbse is you couldnt do automatic reinvesting
Oct 07 02:34:09 <noagendamarket>	Just say you get bfls dividends and wanted to reinvest them in more mining power
Oct 07 02:34:26 <noagendamarket>	you had to manually buy more
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Oct 07 02:35:35 <noagendamarket>	I was thinking like an equipm,ent bank where 40-50% of your dividends is kept to keep up with difficulty
Oct 07 02:35:43 <boonies4u>	i'm just going to say that an investment opportunity emerged
Oct 07 02:35:52 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 02:36:03 <boonies4u>	i put a clause for that in my pastebin
Oct 07 02:36:08 <boonies4u>	lol
Oct 07 02:36:46 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 02:37:03 <boonies4u>	hopefully I get the answers I want from BFL
Oct 07 02:37:18 <boonies4u>	and my investors make some kind of comment regarding my pastebin
Oct 07 02:38:00 <boonies4u>	then I can approach this with some sanity
Oct 07 02:39:16 <boonies4u>	there's also the
Oct 07 02:39:31 <boonies4u>	there's also the Bitforce 'little' SCs
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Oct 07 02:41:07 <boonies4u>	fuck it, this is what I want to do
Oct 07 02:41:13 <boonies4u>	I want to take risks, I want to reinvest
Oct 07 02:41:43 <boonies4u>	I want to have a nice big bitcoin farm
Oct 07 02:42:00 <boonies4u>	I want to work the electric fields
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Oct 07 02:43:41 <boonies4u>	if it means I have to stay up to 3am to come up with crazy and not so crazy plans so be it
Oct 07 02:44:05 <boonies4u>	<3
Oct 07 02:44:07 <boonies4u>	I love bitcoin, and I love that people like me have to lose my mind to embrace it
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Oct 07 02:45:13 <boonies4u>	Shaded: I love you!
Oct 07 02:45:16 *	boonies4u hugs Shaded
Oct 07 02:45:23 <boonies4u>	<3
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Oct 07 02:45:30 <Shaded>	O.o
Oct 07 02:45:32 <Shaded>	Hi
Oct 07 02:46:09 <boonies4u>	sorry, you just missed my sleep deprivation induced monologue
Oct 07 02:46:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00029974 = 7.1038 BTC [-]
Oct 07 02:46:58 <boonies4u>	so I hugged you
Oct 07 02:47:00 <boonies4u>	makes perfect sense :3
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Oct 07 02:53:35 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 07 02:54:17 <boonies4u>	Luke-Jr told me earlier tonight that he shouldn't be making decisions like loaning me bitcoins at this time of night
Oct 07 02:54:33 <boonies4u>	but I'm a night owl, I shine when i'm sleep deprived and/or it's late out
Oct 07 02:54:49 <____Atlas_____>	>luke-jr
Oct 07 02:54:51 <____Atlas_____>	oh lawd
Oct 07 02:54:54 <boonies4u>	i'm also a bit of a flamer, but that's a different story
Oct 07 02:55:20 <____Atlas_____>	If you convinced him you were the second coming of Christ, he would lay his life down for you, that nutter.
Oct 07 02:57:04 <boonies4u>	well, good to know
Oct 07 02:57:06 <boonies4u>	thanks
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Oct 07 03:05:27 <boonies4u>	wb :P
Oct 07 03:07:17 <____Atlas_____>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9wt5TrI7II&feature=related
Oct 07 03:09:07 <boonies4u>	uh oh
Oct 07 03:09:11 <boonies4u>	you didn't...
Oct 07 03:09:26 <boonies4u>	*cracks fingers*
Oct 07 03:10:09 <boonies4u>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM5MMqNgUzM
Oct 07 03:10:38 <boonies4u>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbDZ5mzWLLY
Oct 07 03:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27714 @ 0.00029851 = 8.2729 BTC [-]
Oct 07 03:13:05 <boonies4u>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PZqBQ-Cjns
Oct 07 03:13:55 <boonies4u>	ok that's all the ones at the top of my head :P
Oct 07 03:16:43 <____Atlas_____>	lol
Oct 07 03:16:55 <____Atlas_____>	Your name reminds me of Pinkman off Breaking Bad
Oct 07 03:17:24 <boonies4u>	my name?
Oct 07 03:17:33 <____Atlas_____>	boonies
Oct 07 03:17:39 <____Atlas_____>	He always called the desert the boonies
Oct 07 03:17:57 <____Atlas_____>	It sucks that show only has 8 episodes left :(
Oct 07 03:18:02 <boonies4u>	oh yeah, boonies is typically wilderness/away from civilization
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Oct 07 03:18:19 <boonies4u>	i usually attribute boonies to woods/swamps though
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Oct 07 03:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50486 @ 0.00029851 = 15.0706 BTC [-]
Oct 07 04:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.0002954 = 0.1477 BTC [-]
Oct 07 04:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13775 @ 0.00029485 = 4.0616 BTC [-]
Oct 07 04:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55888 @ 0.00029437 = 16.4518 BTC [-]
Oct 07 04:04:34 <boonies4u>	oh hey
Oct 07 04:14:11 <____Atlas_____>	hey
Oct 07 04:14:27 <____Atlas_____>	So
Oct 07 04:14:31 <____Atlas_____>	Why are you up this late?
Oct 07 04:15:35 <boonies4u>	sugary candy
Oct 07 04:15:53 <____Atlas_____>	Heh
Oct 07 04:16:00 <____Atlas_____>	Seems sensible
Oct 07 04:16:00 <boonies4u>	stress about loan
Oct 07 04:16:08 <boonies4u>	and uhmm
Oct 07 04:16:11 <boonies4u>	Death Note Abridged
Oct 07 04:16:40 <____Atlas_____>	Psh
Oct 07 04:16:53 <____Atlas_____>	I mean, pardon that psh
Oct 07 04:16:59 <____Atlas_____>	but that loan isn't a whole bunch of money
Oct 07 04:17:06 <____Atlas_____>	The price is going down anyways
Oct 07 04:17:06 <boonies4u>	;.;
Oct 07 04:17:58 <____Atlas_____>	People lose more than $1000 all the time
Oct 07 04:18:10 <____Atlas_____>	There are entrepeuners who go bankrupt as a habit
Oct 07 04:19:41 <____Atlas_____>	Anyways, this is my sleep deprivation talking
Oct 07 04:21:46 <boonies4u>	oh i'm not really afraid of the loan itself losing value
Oct 07 04:22:10 <boonies4u>	but, the sooner I make up my mind to do with it, the better i'll feel
Oct 07 04:22:29 <____Atlas_____>	You have the option of paying it off early
Oct 07 04:23:07 <boonies4u>	won't change how much I pay though
Oct 07 04:23:41 <____Atlas_____>	I remember taking out a 1000 BTC loan when it was only $100
Oct 07 04:23:43 <____Atlas_____>	Fun times
Oct 07 04:24:07 <____Atlas_____>	Didn't pay a cent in interest because theymos was such a nice guy
Oct 07 04:25:19 <boonies4u>	lucky you
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Oct 07 04:25:50 <____Atlas_____>	Well, it was an experience
Oct 07 04:25:54 <____Atlas_____>	I lost a lot since then
Oct 07 04:26:03 <boonies4u>	i'm using https://btcjam.com/
Oct 07 04:26:10 <boonies4u>	so, it's pretty much set in stone
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Oct 07 04:26:49 <____Atlas_____>	Ooo
Oct 07 04:26:55 <____Atlas_____>	I haven't seen this before
Oct 07 04:26:59 <____Atlas_____>	Looks professional
Oct 07 04:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 100 @ 0.003419 = 0.3419 BTC [-]
Oct 07 04:27:54 <boonies4u>	they get 1% at closing
Oct 07 04:28:11 <boonies4u>	so i ended up getting 99 btc out of the 100
Oct 07 04:29:46 <____Atlas_____>	That's a very competitive interest rate
Oct 07 04:30:05 <____Atlas_____>	I am guessing you had give a lot of info?
Oct 07 04:31:21 <boonies4u>	i gave more info as it was being funded
Oct 07 04:31:31 <boonies4u>	here's mine https://btcjam.com/listings/38
Oct 07 04:32:10 <boonies4u>	2.43996 payment every week for 53 weeks
Oct 07 04:32:15 <boonies4u>	<< >>
Oct 07 04:35:27 <boonies4u>	if GLBSE was up, I could make those payments without selling a single bond
Oct 07 04:35:31 <boonies4u>	oh well
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Oct 07 04:46:41 <____Atlas_____>	It looks like a good time to sell
Oct 07 04:47:13 <boonies4u>	not wht I meant
Oct 07 04:47:30 <boonies4u>	what*
Oct 07 04:48:15 <boonies4u>	I meant if GLBSE was up, I could have bought mining bonds, and been able to make weekly payments without selling any
Oct 07 04:48:48 <____Atlas_____>	Yeah. Nefario should have left prior notice
Oct 07 04:49:00 <____Atlas_____>	As for my comment, I'm just speaking in general
Oct 07 04:51:26 <boonies4u>	oh
Oct 07 04:52:49 <____Atlas_____>	Hmm
Oct 07 04:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49300 @ 0.00028874 = 14.2349 BTC [-]
Oct 07 04:53:12 <____Atlas_____>	I think you might be a woman.
Oct 07 04:53:25 <____Atlas_____>	Just a guess
Oct 07 04:53:37 <boonies4u>	hmmm
Oct 07 04:53:44 <boonies4u>	and why is that?
Oct 07 04:53:49 <____Atlas_____>	writing style
Oct 07 04:53:59 <____Atlas_____>	visual language
Oct 07 04:54:11 <boonies4u>	oh, no i'm male
Oct 07 04:54:29 <boonies4u>	I can be feminine though
Oct 07 04:54:29 <____Atlas_____>	That's the likely case most of the time
Oct 07 04:54:40 <____Atlas_____>	Yeah, my writing style tends to be as well
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Oct 07 04:59:00 <boonies4u>	I meant in general :P
Oct 07 05:00:42 <____Atlas_____>	Ha
Oct 07 05:00:46 <____Atlas_____>	That works too
Oct 07 05:01:18 <____Atlas_____>	Some say that we choose multiple genders throughout our previous lives
Oct 07 05:01:27 <____Atlas_____>	We tend to prefer one
Oct 07 05:01:33 <____Atlas_____>	but we can be many
Oct 07 05:01:56 <boonies4u>	interesting view :3
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Oct 07 05:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 6 @ 0.03 = 0.18 BTC [+]
Oct 07 05:21:10 <boonies4u>	goodnight
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Oct 07 05:44:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00025601 = 4.301 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 06:05:27 <kakobrekla>	mornin
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Oct 07 06:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00025201 = 2.2177 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 06:11:02 <Chaang-Noi>	morning
Oct 07 06:12:48 <FabianB>	hmm.. cheap MPOE, maybe should move more funds there..
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Oct 07 06:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00025207 = 5.0414 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 06:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4184 @ 0.00025207 = 1.0547 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 07:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00025202 = 1.4113 BTC [-]
Oct 07 07:11:19 <noagendamarket>	 Goat!
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Oct 07 07:17:51 <FabianB>	noagendamarket: Tourette?
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Oct 07 07:18:58 <noagendamarket>	lol
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Oct 07 07:19:51 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Oct 07 07:20:08 <Chaang-Noi>	whats up
Oct 07 07:21:50 <noagendamarket>	did you put a curse on nefario lol
Oct 07 07:22:19 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Oct 07 07:23:57 <drekk>	hi
Oct 07 07:24:09 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
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Oct 07 07:31:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00025202 = 3.6291 BTC [-]
Oct 07 07:31:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.00025201 = 13.5329 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 07:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.0002518 = 1.2086 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 07:49:51 <Chaang-Noi>	thx
Oct 07 07:50:06 <kakobrekla>	would have done it sooner but chanserv was offline
Oct 07 07:50:28 <drekk>	heh
Oct 07 07:57:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32300 @ 0.0002518 = 8.1331 BTC [-]
Oct 07 07:59:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88 @ 0.00025207 = 0.0222 BTC [+]
Oct 07 08:05:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 277 @ 0.00100387 = 0.2781 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 08:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16428 @ 0.00025207 = 4.141 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 08:42:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57200 @ 0.0002518 = 14.403 BTC [-]
Oct 07 08:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00025112 = 1.356 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 09:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37200 @ 0.00025015 = 9.3056 BTC [-]
Oct 07 09:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11978 @ 0.00025093 = 3.0056 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35873 @ 0.00025093 = 9.0016 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25269 @ 0.00025283 = 6.3888 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:10:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1128 @ 0.0002532 = 0.2856 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78700 @ 0.00025355 = 19.9544 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:10:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53500 @ 0.00025396 = 13.5869 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:10:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18223 @ 0.00025407 = 4.6299 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00025601 = 4.1218 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48438 @ 0.0002562 = 12.4098 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13392 @ 0.00025675 = 3.4384 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:10:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9377 @ 0.00026495 = 2.4844 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 09:13:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43023 @ 0.00026495 = 11.3989 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:13:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00028729 = 8.2165 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64000 @ 0.00029219 = 18.7002 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7637 @ 0.00029223 = 2.2318 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:13:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60500 @ 0.0002954 = 17.8717 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26614 @ 0.00029606 = 7.8793 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:13:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19626 @ 0.00029928 = 5.8737 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 09:19:11 <Bugpowder>	Quite the selloff of S.MPOE
Oct 07 09:20:19 <rdponticelli>	Yeap, panic's everywhere
Oct 07 09:21:01 <Bugpowder>	Any reason?
Oct 07 09:21:09 <Bugpowder>	that I don't already know?
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Oct 07 09:21:42 <rdponticelli>	I don't know
Oct 07 09:21:49 <Bugpowder>	well fuck it
Oct 07 09:21:56 <Bugpowder>	My coins are already over there
Oct 07 09:22:00 <Bugpowder>	buying the dip
Oct 07 09:22:18 <rdponticelli>	I guess that just SEC panic keeps extending
Oct 07 09:22:25 <Bugpowder>	to whom? MP?
Oct 07 09:22:37 <Bugpowder>	rg?
Oct 07 09:23:12 <rdponticelli>	Idk
Oct 07 09:23:34 <rdponticelli>	But, yeah, I buy some of the dip too
Oct 07 09:23:36 <Bugpowder>	ok
Oct 07 09:23:42 <Bugpowder>	I just did
Oct 07 09:23:46 <Bugpowder>	before I logged iin
Oct 07 09:23:54 <Bugpowder>	wanted to check on things before I bought more
Oct 07 09:24:09 <rdponticelli>	You bought to 29?
Oct 07 09:24:29 <Bugpowder>	yes
Oct 07 09:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00320001 = 0.32 BTC [-]
Oct 07 09:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 810 @ 0.0032 = 2.592 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 09:25:50 <rdponticelli>	You put some coins there
Oct 07 09:25:54 <rdponticelli>	:)
Oct 07 09:26:09 <Bugpowder>	the 20BTC fee did not bother me
Oct 07 09:26:59 <FabianB>	i guess it's a cheap buy (bought some of the dip too)
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Oct 07 09:28:25 <FabianB>	ppl will realize MPEX is not the same category of exchange as glbse
Oct 07 09:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15000 @ 0.0032 = 48 BTC [-]
Oct 07 09:29:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19974 @ 0.00029928 = 5.9778 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:29:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00030016 = 5.2828 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:29:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24396 @ 0.00030247 = 7.3791 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:29:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0003044 = 8.0666 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:29:49 <rdponticelli>	Somebody really wants to go out
Oct 07 09:29:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00030555 = 10.0832 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:29:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00030847 = 0.5861 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:29:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40057 @ 0.00030905 = 12.3796 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:29:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5222 @ 0.00031314 = 1.6352 BTC [+]
Oct 07 09:30:11 <rdponticelli>	And somebody in
Oct 07 09:30:13 <rdponticelli>	:)
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Oct 07 09:30:28 <Bugpowder>	I just didn't have enough free coins
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Oct 07 09:30:41 <Bugpowder>	Plus, most of the S.MPOE revenue is from the options trading
Oct 07 09:31:41 <Bugpowder>	OK well.... Either this is a great play or another chunk of lost coins into the oblivion.
Oct 07 09:32:38 <rdponticelli>	Almost anything is in bitcoinland
Oct 07 09:32:53 <rdponticelli>	They're almost no middle grounds
Oct 07 09:33:20 <rdponticelli>	And I like it :)
Oct 07 09:33:54 <Bugpowder>	So far my only great move has been to buy coins at 2.65
Oct 07 09:34:05 <Bugpowder>	everything else has been crappy
Oct 07 09:35:27 <rdponticelli>	The cheapest I got was around 4, I believe
Oct 07 09:35:48 <rdponticelli>	But the, yes, like you, clusterfuck after clusterfuck
Oct 07 09:35:49 <Chaang-Noi>	SEC panic? why are people assuming that Nefario quit cuz the SEC.. the other GLBSE stock holders dont even think that...
Oct 07 09:35:58 <rdponticelli>	Like everybody
Oct 07 09:36:13 <Bugpowder>	he quit cause he is in potential trouble
Oct 07 09:36:21 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i know he is
Oct 07 09:36:24 <Bugpowder>	not applied trouble
Oct 07 09:36:29 <Chaang-Noi>	but ot SEC trouble...
Oct 07 09:36:33 <Chaang-Noi>	not*
Oct 07 09:36:38 <rdponticelli>	Chaang-Noi: it doesnt mather really, sombody wrote that, and people are afraid
Oct 07 09:36:45 <Chaang-Noi>	i see
Oct 07 09:37:14 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario was being a retarded and was about to get sued, he thought best option was to close down, lol. it wont save his ass.
Oct 07 09:37:24 <Bugpowder>	Well, it let me just pick up 700K S.MPOE under 31500
Oct 07 09:37:32 <rdponticelli>	Well, and the mails looked real
Oct 07 09:37:51 <Chaang-Noi>	mails? SEC sent you a letter? :)
Oct 07 09:38:13 <rdponticelli>	So, the SEC seems to be flying around pirate
Oct 07 09:38:23 <Bugpowder>	I saw something on pastebin
Oct 07 09:38:27 <Bugpowder>	and a forum post
Oct 07 09:38:29 <rdponticelli>	No, I didn't receive anything
Oct 07 09:38:33 <Bugpowder>	is that credible?
Oct 07 09:38:36 <Chaang-Noi>	oh that stuff from weeks ago?
Oct 07 09:38:38 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Oct 07 09:38:41 <rdponticelli>	But I also got almost nothing in pirate
Oct 07 09:38:50 <femtotube>	if you guys have any ideas how to clean up this mess, please post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115825.msg1249776
Oct 07 09:39:31 <Chaang-Noi>	well suing glbse and it stock holders seems like the way to go at this point
Oct 07 09:39:38 <Chaang-Noi>	im sure the other stock holders will then sue nefario
Oct 07 09:39:44 <Bugpowder>	femtotube OT and MPEX
Oct 07 09:39:48 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario in the mean time will just keep all the data and btc
Oct 07 09:39:51 <Bugpowder>	what other solutions are possible?
Oct 07 09:39:52 <rdponticelli>	Wait bothering cleaning this mess? Just wait for the next mess...
Oct 07 09:40:02 <rdponticelli>	It's not far away :)
Oct 07 09:40:31 <Bugpowder>	Now that nefario has my GLBSSE assets, I think I'm going to triple their actual value in my google spreadsheet
Oct 07 09:41:01 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder if the govt is really trying to go after a btc business... no busines can stay around long enough for the govt to bring a case aginst them
Oct 07 09:41:05 <rdponticelli>	Bugpowder: Are you taking usagi's way?
Oct 07 09:41:32 <femtotube>	Bugpowder: OT is interesting.MPEX is like GLBSE, one guy can fuck us over any time he feels like it
Oct 07 09:41:33 <Bugpowder>	yeah!
Oct 07 09:41:58 <Chaang-Noi>	OT is the only real option
Oct 07 09:42:06 <Chaang-Noi>	and its not ready yet
Oct 07 09:42:06 <Bugpowder>	femtotube, sure. OT is the long term solution
Oct 07 09:42:21 <Bugpowder>	MPEX is for right now.
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Oct 07 09:44:50 <femtotube>	OT sure is a strange cat. I have to figure out, how it really works and can it be even used for anything useful. I do not like it is missing decentralisation <- and this is a must
Oct 07 09:45:13 <knotwork>	If you are awesome enough a business to get accepted by MPEX go ahead and do so
Oct 07 09:45:44 <knotwork>	for everyone else there is go to yet another insecure hacker's delight website or go with OT
Oct 07 09:46:07 <femtotube>	let me repeat it once more knotwork. MPEX is like GLBSE  one guy can fuck us over any time he feels like it
Oct 07 09:46:31 <Chaang-Noi>	3 people calling for scammer tag for nefario now.. one of them being theymos
Oct 07 09:46:44 <Chaang-Noi>	well 3 threads.. clearly many many peopleca lling for it
Oct 07 09:46:47 <femtotube>	knotwork: if you do not understand it, then... chill shill :)
Oct 07 09:46:48 <Chaang-Noi>	calling*
Oct 07 09:46:50 <knotwork>	no it is like OT, you get signed recipts constantly. don't you? so your latest receipt is your balance? or your latest stat anyway?
Oct 07 09:46:59 <Bugpowder>	;;bc
Oct 07 09:47:00 <gribble>	Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
Oct 07 09:47:08 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Oct 07 09:47:09 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.9503, Best ask: 11.968, Bid-ask spread: 0.01770, Last trade: 11.9503, 24 hour volume: 61354, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.78
Oct 07 09:47:24 <femtotube>	theymos IS a scammer too and needs the tag as much as nefario
Oct 07 09:47:24 <Bugpowder>	motherfucking tards selling off coin again
Oct 07 09:47:40 <femtotube>	did you forget that he wanted to offload his shares?
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Oct 07 09:47:48 <Bugpowder>	I should buy the coin dip
Oct 07 09:48:25 <Chaang-Noi>	if i held GLBSE stock i would want to see to
Oct 07 09:48:28 <Chaang-Noi>	sell*
Oct 07 09:48:31 <knotwork>	Hmm is OT the only system that requires you to sign off on any change to your balance?
Oct 07 09:48:39 <femtotube>	i am starting to think that in 12-16 months, BTC is gone for good.
Oct 07 09:48:40 <Bugpowder>	femtotube Generally you want to sell shares before they crash, I don't fault him for that.  Though the longer funds are held up from GLBSE users, the scammier he gets
Oct 07 09:48:42 <Chaang-Noi>	what is wrong with leaveling GLBSE
Oct 07 09:49:03 <knotwork>	I thought Truledger was similar but its percentage fee-or-interest thing might not require signing off on to change balance
Oct 07 09:49:21 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway some people think i should be a scammer, meh
Oct 07 09:49:37 <Chaang-Noi>	im not so sure theymos should be, i owuld need a lot more evidance
Oct 07 09:49:38 <Bugpowder>	Chaang-Noi You are!
Oct 07 09:50:10 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah yeah, im sure many people think so
Oct 07 09:50:33 <Chaang-Noi>	staying around for a year and never breaking a contract or scamming makes me a sure scammer
Oct 07 09:50:36 <Chaang-Noi>	:/
Oct 07 09:51:47 <Bugpowder>	You lose enough of others people money... people will think you are a scammer, because intent is impossible to judge over the internet
Oct 07 09:51:54 <Bugpowder>	and pretty hard to judge in real life too
Oct 07 09:52:45 <Bugpowder>	COME ON S.MPOE... rally to 42000
Oct 07 09:53:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i lost other peoples money? oh do go on...
Oct 07 09:53:42 <Chaang-Noi>	come on troll,,, back up what you say...
Oct 07 09:54:18 <Bugpowder>	People put coins in funds you run, value falls, coins don't come back.  doesn't matter how
Oct 07 09:54:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i never ran a fund :/
Oct 07 09:54:46 <Chaang-Noi>	if you have to lie to win it is not rally winning
Oct 07 09:54:54 <Chaang-Noi>	really*
Oct 07 09:55:02 <Bugpowder>	I thought you ran some passthrus?
Oct 07 09:55:23 <Bugpowder>	TYGRR.*?
Oct 07 09:55:41 <Chaang-Noi>	a pass though is not a fund... and i did exactly what the contract said i would do. i did not manage the btc
Oct 07 09:55:54 <Bugpowder>	money goes in, it doesn't come back
Oct 07 09:56:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57800 @ 0.00025594 = 14.7933 BTC [-]
Oct 07 09:56:12 <Bugpowder>	fux
Oct 07 09:56:13 <Chaang-Noi>	that would be like blaming the sataqshidice pass thoughts if satashidice failed tomorrow
Oct 07 09:56:19 <Bugpowder>	yes
Oct 07 09:56:39 <Chaang-Noi>	you must be new here... go rad some history and you wont look so stupid next time...
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Oct 07 10:00:43 <thestringpuller_>	I think OT can be decentralized if you were to distribute the server side.
Oct 07 10:02:01 <Chaang-Noi>	that is the whole point of OT
Oct 07 10:02:20 <Chaang-Noi>	why use OT if it was not decentralized
Oct 07 10:04:29 <pigeons>	its more "federated"
Oct 07 10:05:01 <pigeons>	also the server can't muck with your balances
Oct 07 10:06:51 <knotwork>	TO issue on someone else's server the audit system will be important, spamming all receipts to a distributed hash table or a filesharing network or newsgroup or whatever
Oct 07 10:07:26 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Oct 07 10:07:26 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.91021, Best ask: 11.95, Bid-ask spread: 0.03979, Last trade: 11.91021, 24 hour volume: 61501, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.78
Oct 07 10:07:26 <knotwork>	encrypted selectively so only assigned auditors and/or the issuers of the assets involved in the receipt can read them
Oct 07 10:07:58 <knotwork>	so they can be sure there are never more of their asset in circulation than they themselves issued
Oct 07 10:08:23 <knotwork>	and so they can harvest the nyms of the current owners of their shares in the case of assets of shares type
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Oct 07 10:09:09 <thestringpuller_>	Each asset is unique no?
Oct 07 10:09:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/112hsn/the_reasons_why_bitcoin_securities_cant_be/
Oct 07 10:09:35 <knotwork>	do bonds also require issuer to know current owners? or is that what makes bearer bonds different, not knowing who has them?
Oct 07 10:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone has a reddit account be so kind to point out to them that i don't, and so won't answer there, but they can feel free to make the comments on the article
Oct 07 10:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	and get a response.
Oct 07 10:10:01 <knotwork>	each asset is unique yes, change even a bit, or a character of whitespace, and the hash changes thus the ID of the asset the contract is about changes
Oct 07 10:10:16 <knotwork>	so any change to contract results in a brand new distinct different asset
Oct 07 10:10:38 <femtotube>	Chaang-Noi: that markm's OT is not decentralised. It's even worst that centralized. If server, where sec. was issued disappears, security is gone too
Oct 07 10:11:05 <thestringpuller_>	I was more asking, say I have 1000 shares of Asset A, would each one of those 1000 shares be unique, to keep them from being duplicated?
Oct 07 10:11:16 <Bugpowder>	You might be better served by posting in the law subreddit
Oct 07 10:11:21 <knotwork>	no, they are fungible
Oct 07 10:11:31 <Bugpowder>	where a bunch of actual lawyers or at least law students hang out
Oct 07 10:11:36 <knotwork>	deeds are each-unique but not yet implemented
Oct 07 10:11:40 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i ain't posting it tho, cause i have no acct.
Oct 07 10:11:51 <femtotube>	mircea_popescu: then get one
Oct 07 10:12:11 <femtotube>	how hard is that?
Oct 07 10:12:34 <knotwork>	Audit system is not yet implemented so my server does not spam all receipts out to public published form
Oct 07 10:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	i hate accounts.
Oct 07 10:12:44 <knotwork>	so yes if my server vanishes issuers will not know what ownership changes happened since their last snapshot
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Oct 07 10:14:43 <knotwork>	femtotube, do you mean how hard is spamming all receipts out to public media/channel?
Oct 07 10:15:19 <knotwork>	the hard part will be making sure only persons intended to be able to can actually decrypt specific receitps they should be able to see
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Oct 07 10:15:45 <knotwork>	might be easier actually to record emails for issuers and spam issuer's email with all receipts about their asset
Oct 07 10:16:12 <knotwork>	but that would require "Knowing Your Issuers"
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Oct 07 10:18:33 <knotwork>	I actually hoped it might be possible to only know a very few customers, those being the few to whom any actual withdraws from the vault go, everyone else being their customers and dealing with them to buy tokens or cash out tokens
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Oct 07 10:19:28 <knotwork>	like how egold and liberty reserve and possibly even pecunix do it, third parties to handle all cashing in and out
Oct 07 10:21:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14267 @ 0.00025477 = 3.6348 BTC [-]
Oct 07 10:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	ewgh wtf happened here.
Oct 07 10:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14633 @ 0.00025477 = 3.728 BTC [-]
Oct 07 10:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00025844 = 6.9262 BTC [+]
Oct 07 10:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00026409 = 9.5072 BTC [+]
Oct 07 10:25:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65400 @ 0.00027946 = 18.2767 BTC [+]
Oct 07 10:25:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5778 @ 0.00031314 = 1.8093 BTC [+]
Oct 07 10:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4618 @ 0.00032044 = 1.4798 BTC [+]
Oct 07 10:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 382 @ 0.00035 = 0.1337 BTC [+]
Oct 07 10:26:42 <Bugpowder>	WHOOOOO HOOOO
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Oct 07 10:27:11 <Bugpowder>	you didn't notice?
Oct 07 10:27:24 <Bugpowder>	been buying that shit up all morning
Oct 07 10:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol wd.
Oct 07 10:28:57 <Bugpowder>	10MM should probably be a nice supporting bid size
Oct 07 10:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	i would think.
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Oct 07 10:48:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550000 @ 0.000315 = 1118.25 BTC [-]
Oct 07 10:50:10 <pigeons>	ait
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Oct 07 10:50:19 <pigeons>	wait for me
Oct 07 10:50:43 <Ukto>	0,o
Oct 07 10:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	hum
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Oct 07 11:00:46 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 07 11:00:47 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.94501, Best ask: 11.95, Bid-ask spread: 0.00499, Last trade: 11.94501, 24 hour volume: 61886, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.78
Oct 07 11:00:51 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 07 11:00:52 <gribble>	12.21
Oct 07 11:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	no wonder people were buying puts lol
Oct 07 11:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	ColdHardMetal so how goes man ?
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Oct 07 11:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.0003422 = 8.2812 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 11:18:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67300 @ 0.00034111 = 22.9567 BTC [-]
Oct 07 11:18:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00033888 = 14.4702 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 11:22:58 <DeaDTerra>	evening :)
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Oct 07 11:30:47 <smickles>	morning :)
Oct 07 11:31:55 <DeaDTerra>	any news?
Oct 07 11:32:35 <smickles>	"weekend dip" + diff increase + glbse incidnent = lower exchange rate, it seems
Oct 07 11:32:49 <smickles>	and mircea_popescu wrote an article
Oct 07 11:33:03 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/
Oct 07 11:34:35 <DeaDTerra>	Yea, I have followed the price ^^ to me it seems like a chance to get some cheap bitcoins :P
Oct 07 11:34:47 <DeaDTerra>	No more news on the whole GLBSE stuff?
Oct 07 11:37:16 <smickles>	not that I know of
Oct 07 11:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	theymos placed the glbse btc at 4-8k
Oct 07 11:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	my estimates were 1-2k. something's amiss.
Oct 07 11:38:57 <DeaDTerra>	GLBSE btc?
Oct 07 11:39:04 <DeaDTerra>	and I thought you were ignoring me ^^
Oct 07 11:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees put in a good word.
Oct 07 11:39:51 <DeaDTerra>	hahah, I thought so
Oct 07 11:40:00 <DeaDTerra>	What do you mean by GLBSE BTC btw?
Oct 07 11:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	btc owned in cash by glbse customers on glbse website.
Oct 07 11:40:40 <DeaDTerra>	ah
Oct 07 11:40:48 <DeaDTerra>	Yea that has to be higher then 1-2k
Oct 07 11:40:57 <DeaDTerra>	I personally have 500+ BTC on there
Oct 07 11:41:55 <DeaDTerra>	Atleast 5000 BTC I would guess on
Oct 07 11:41:56 <DeaDTerra>	probably more
Oct 07 11:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18013 @ 0.00033888 = 6.1042 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 11:49:47 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Oct 07 11:49:47 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.90004, Best ask: 11.9699, Bid-ask spread: 0.06986, Last trade: 11.90004, 24 hour volume: 62374, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.78
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Oct 07 12:01:41 <thestringpuller>	!help
Oct 07 12:01:42 <assbot>	List of commands:
Oct 07 12:01:43 <assbot>	!ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current MPEX ticker values)
Oct 07 12:03:25 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.MPOE
Oct 07 12:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00025015 / 0.00031653 / 0.00037575 (6558468 shares, 2,076.01 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00037846 / 0.00042 (70093609 shares, 26,528.18 BTC)
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Oct 07 12:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.00033179 = 11.8117 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 12:27:05 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Oct 07 12:27:05 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.93, Best ask: 11.97, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 11.97, 24 hour volume: 62240, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.75999
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Oct 07 12:33:34 <kakobrekla>	oh look, a all-in-one https://www.therocktrading.com/en/exchange/stock
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Oct 07 12:34:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20557 @ 0.00033618 = 6.9109 BTC [+]
Oct 07 12:34:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13843 @ 0.0003389 = 4.6914 BTC [+]
Oct 07 12:35:55 <boonies4u-Andro>	L$?
Oct 07 12:36:00 <boonies4u-Andro>	Linden Dollars?
Oct 07 12:36:03 <pigeons>	yes
Oct 07 12:36:17 <Bugpowder>	Nice dividend  https://www.therocktrading.com/en/offers/RMIND
Oct 07 12:37:25 <Bugpowder>	#therocktrading
Oct 07 12:38:05 <boonies4u-Andro>	no one is there
Oct 07 12:38:06 <boonies4u-Andro>	lol
Oct 07 12:38:51 <pigeons>	no they don't irc
Oct 07 12:39:42 <boonies4u-Andro>	i don't see much documentation on RMIND
Oct 07 12:39:50 <boonies4u-Andro>	mission statement
Oct 07 12:39:56 <boonies4u-Andro>	idk, looking
Oct 07 12:39:59 <kakobrekla>	i dont know who runs it
Oct 07 12:40:04 <kakobrekla>	but i know a guy that knows him
Oct 07 12:40:08 <kakobrekla>	thats it.
Oct 07 12:40:17 <boonies4u-Andro>	LOL
Oct 07 12:40:36 <pigeons>	i've known him since before there was a bitcoin
Oct 07 12:41:08 <boonies4u-Andro>	:Company Prospectus The Rock Mining Industries Total outstanding Shares 400000 100% Bitcoin Production The First Company traded in Bitcoin only!:
Oct 07 12:42:01 <pigeons>	yes before it was traded in lindens as all their other stuff, then it moved to bitcoins after linden temp closed their account because someone used stolen lindens to buy bitcoins from them on their exchange
Oct 07 12:42:20 <boonies4u-Andro>	lol
Oct 07 12:43:06 <smickles>	!!!, woah what? theymos said, "4-5. The database backups can be decrypted by me, justmoon, Gavin, Sirius, and Satoshi. The encrypted backups are distributed among many people." Satoshi!?
Oct 07 12:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	smickles sure ?
Oct 07 12:43:29 <boonies4u-Andro>	HOLY shit
Oct 07 12:43:32 <pigeons>	yeah that's the bitcointalk forum db
Oct 07 12:43:35 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1251861#msg1251861
Oct 07 12:43:36 <pigeons>	not glbse
Oct 07 12:43:42 <smickles>	oh
Oct 07 12:43:42 <boonies4u-Andro>	https://www.therocktrading.com/en/exchange/currency
Oct 07 12:43:51 <boonies4u-Andro>	they have a dollar spread on btc/usd
Oct 07 12:43:51 <boonies4u-Andro>	lol
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Oct 07 12:44:28 <pigeons>	really? laugh at someone because they have temp low volume resulting in a big spread? like your exchange is better?
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Oct 07 12:45:08 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: https://assets-otc.com/
Oct 07 12:45:25 <kakobrekla>	wow dafuq is this
Oct 07 12:46:47 <boonies4u-Andro>	I was just pointing out the crazy spread
Oct 07 12:46:54 <boonies4u-Andro>	:P
Oct 07 12:47:02 <boonies4u-Andro>	of course it is due to low volume
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Oct 07 12:50:26 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1251971#msg1251971
Oct 07 12:50:35 <smickles>	lol
Oct 07 12:51:53 <smickles>	I honestly thought glbse had the sense to have an accountant
Oct 07 12:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	https://therocktrading.com ?!
Oct 07 12:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck is that lol
Oct 07 12:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bitcoin Fixed Return Fund
Oct 07 12:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	mkay. sigh.
Oct 07 12:57:43 <boonies4u-Andro>	MrTiggr: https://therocktrading.com/en/exchange/stock
Oct 07 12:57:46 <boonies4u-Andro>	mircea_popescu: https://therocktrading.com/en/exchange/stock
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Oct 07 12:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00033346 = 1.2005 BTC [-]
Oct 07 12:58:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00033179 = 1.858 BTC [-]
Oct 07 12:58:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4774191 @ 0.000315 = 1503.8702 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 12:59:07 <Bugpowder>	oh boy
Oct 07 12:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	boonies4u-Andro oic.
Oct 07 13:00:23 <boonies4u-Andro>	though, i'm not seeing any description as to what these bonds represent XD
Oct 07 13:01:01 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 07 13:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	seems to me like a ponzibond and a miningthing
Oct 07 13:01:45 <boonies4u-Andro>	my guess is that they all represent some function of the "The Rock Trading Company"
Oct 07 13:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	that assets-otc thing is funnay
Oct 07 13:01:58 <boonies4u-Andro>	there's one for arbitrage
Oct 07 13:01:58 <smickles>	<@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4774191 @ 0.000315 = 1503.8702 BTC [-] 0_o
Oct 07 13:02:03 <mircea_popescu>	i thought ppl didn't like mpex. now copying it ?
Oct 07 13:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	smickles whoa. was a 2mn ish one before, too
Oct 07 13:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e, 1.1k btc
Oct 07 13:02:41 <pigeons>	well if you email them they will keep you up to date on the mining equipment and give you whatever info you ask
Oct 07 13:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, about to take the girls to town! however before i go : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/
Oct 07 13:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	feel free to dump into reddit or w/e
Oct 07 13:03:00 <boonies4u-Andro>	I don't think they're copying it
Oct 07 13:03:04 <boonies4u-Andro>	I think they're shorting it :P
Oct 07 13:03:24 <mircea_popescu>	boonies4u-Andro assets-otc thing looks like a retarded mpex to me.
Oct 07 13:03:44 <boonies4u-Andro>	i'm just poking fun at what smickles posted
Oct 07 13:03:46 <boonies4u-Andro>	:P
Oct 07 13:05:21 <pigeons>	there is a site you can see the management of the gpus and fpgas and what pools they are at and temps and hashes, but hehehe yes down atm
Oct 07 13:06:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1363237 @ 0.000315 = 429.4197 BTC [-]
Oct 07 13:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	mm
Oct 07 13:06:30 <boonies4u-Andro>	gpumax?
Oct 07 13:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Oct 07 13:06:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00025015 / 0.00031575 / 0.00037575 (12741096 shares, 4,023.10 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.0003733 / 0.00042 (76270870 shares, 28,472.03 BTC)
Oct 07 13:07:10 <boonies4u-Andro>	those moving averages?
Oct 07 13:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Oct 07 13:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	so i've rebought today like i dunno, half my float ?
Oct 07 13:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	wtf lol.
Oct 07 13:09:11 <boonies4u-Andro>	I considered opening up a fund on GLBSE instead of getting a loan on btcjam
Oct 07 13:09:48 <boonies4u-Andro>	I always liked that in the back of my head, if something bad happens and they lose confidence in the fund, I could buy back bonds
Oct 07 13:15:17 <FabianB>	looks like someone needs a lot of money suddenly and sells a lot of MPOE
Oct 07 13:16:39 <FabianB>	or is that panic sell?
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Oct 07 13:17:25 <smickles>	holy shit, the gov't representatives in romainia are elected by plurality, and they use a civil law based legal system?
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Oct 07 13:24:59 <boonies4u-Andro>	lol
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Oct 07 13:26:12 <pigeons>	all other countries are run by little girls
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Oct 07 13:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00032349 = 5.9199 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 13:34:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i find it kinda odd coldhardmetal left #glbse but is in the other #bitcoin chans...
Oct 07 13:34:49 <Chaang-Noi>	wonder what is going on there...
Oct 07 13:37:03 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: i dunno, but it seems like a good time to leave the parting message idid
Oct 07 13:37:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not see it
Oct 07 13:37:31 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been traveling
Oct 07 13:37:40 <smickles>	i did it like 1 mn ago
Oct 07 13:37:57 <smickles>	do i fail at operating a /part command?
Oct 07 13:38:01 <Chaang-Noi>	in #glbse ?
Oct 07 13:38:08 <smickles>	yup
Oct 07 13:38:29 <Chaang-Noi>	ahhh
Oct 07 13:38:30 <Chaang-Noi>	yup
Oct 07 13:38:41 <Chaang-Noi>	so are you going to give your AML docs to Nefario ?
Oct 07 13:38:42 <kakobrekla>	and the message was?
Oct 07 13:38:55 <Chaang-Noi>	* smickles (~smickles@mostofmany.com) has left #GLBSE ("see you later shitlords")
Oct 07 13:39:14 <kakobrekla>	;>
Oct 07 13:39:21 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: is it going to be docs like that?
Oct 07 13:39:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder how many BTC and assets nefario will get to claim due to people not handing over AML stuff, or him just saying its not good enough...
Oct 07 13:39:43 <Chaang-Noi>	smickles it seems so
Oct 07 13:40:14 <Chaang-Noi>	its his "get out of jail free card if people are using glbse to support terrorist and money laundering"
Oct 07 13:40:43 <Chaang-Noi>	thats not a direct quote but something like that
Oct 07 13:41:01 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: we'll see. i suppose i'm waiting to be contacted directly, or see something on glbse proper
Oct 07 13:41:18 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah me too
Oct 07 13:41:35 <smickles>	and in my case, he has a pic of my passport
Oct 07 13:41:44 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Oct 07 13:41:48 <boonies4u-Andro>	well, my guess is that asset holders won't honor bonds Nefario holds
Oct 07 13:41:53 <boonies4u-Andro>	sorry
Oct 07 13:42:02 <boonies4u-Andro>	I meant, asset issuers won't honor bonds Nefario holds
Oct 07 13:42:06 <Chaang-Noi>	asset holders wont know who holds what
Oct 07 13:42:22 <boonies4u-Andro>	let me correct myself
Oct 07 13:42:22 <boonies4u-Andro>	:/
Oct 07 13:42:26 <boonies4u-Andro>	jeeze
Oct 07 13:43:53 <smickles>	well, if i get a list of shareholders and associated amounts for s2cm and mpoe.etf, then i'll honor them
Oct 07 13:44:00 <smickles>	otherwise, i cant
Oct 07 13:44:32 <smickles>	also, fiduciary responcibility would require me to verify the lists somehow
Oct 07 13:45:22 <smickles>	;;gpg info nefario
Oct 07 13:45:22 <gribble>	User 'nefario', with keyid 28DD49E2A68F4B7C, fingerprint 03B47461C1E526576917215728DD49E2A68F4B7C, and bitcoin address None, registered on Mon Jul 11 23:17:47 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=nefario . Currently not authenticated.
Oct 07 13:45:52 <smickles>	Would the data being signed by that keyid be sufficient verrification?
Oct 07 13:46:15 <pigeons>	probably as good as you can reasonably hope for in this situation
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Oct 07 13:49:55 <boonies4u-Andro>	regarding what goat was saying, I don't think issuers should let Nefario get any unclaimed bonds
Oct 07 13:50:20 <boonies4u-Andro>	that would be rewarding his behavior
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Oct 07 13:51:36 <boonies4u-Andro>	unless Nefario is only going to be submitting addresses tied to number of bonds held
Oct 07 13:52:00 <boonies4u-Andro>	then it might be difficult to determine who he is among the shareholders
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Oct 07 13:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71300 @ 0.00032346 = 23.0627 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 14:20:54 <Chaang-Noi>	aml all stockholders and just assume none are a proxy for nefario?
Oct 07 14:22:06 <boonies4u-Andro>	well, I suppose having multiple proxy accounts to fool issuers would work
Oct 07 14:23:02 <boonies4u-Andro>	beh
Oct 07 14:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00032114 = 2.6012 BTC [-]
Oct 07 14:23:20 <femtotube>	is that really true that there was so SEC etc agents poking at nefario? It was all just bullshit and excuse
Oct 07 14:24:14 <Chaang-Noi>	he is now scared he was breaking the law...
Oct 07 14:24:24 <Chaang-Noi>	and wants to protect him self as far as i can gather...
Oct 07 14:24:36 <Chaang-Noi>	incase the sec or what not comes in...
Oct 07 14:24:44 <Chaang-Noi>	would be best if nefario said something
Oct 07 14:24:54 <Chaang-Noi>	if the sec came down on him, no way would they let him still operate
Oct 07 14:26:14 <pigeons>	don't know if the sec contacted nefario, but the people who talked to the sec say the sec specifically was asking about glbse, "how you got your glbse account" and ppt funds on glbse
Oct 07 14:26:54 <pigeons>	for example danieldaniel (i know)
Oct 07 14:28:16 <Chaang-Noi>	yes the sec did contact nefario
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Oct 07 14:28:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i have pretty solid info on that, but that was a while ago and he kept operating
Oct 07 14:28:58 <Chaang-Noi>	he then saw a lawyer and saw the light i guess...
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Oct 07 14:29:11 <boonies4u-Andro>	maybe it about getting asset holder info
Oct 07 14:29:23 <boonies4u-Andro>	might explain why they let him keep operating
Oct 07 14:29:48 <boonies4u-Andro>	it is about*
Oct 07 14:29:50 <femtotube>	pigeons: all they had to do was read the forum or use the Make a account. How stupid are the agents? LOL
Oct 07 14:30:12 <femtotube>	not that stupid for sure :)
Oct 07 14:30:31 <pigeons>	femtotube: i agree. but also i wonder if they were curious how the alleged "victims" got involved
Oct 07 14:30:37 <boonies4u-Andro>	pigeons: the sec contacting nefario, while proving that they are sec
Oct 07 14:30:50 <boonies4u-Andro>	not, someone on an anonymous account claiming to be sec
Oct 07 14:30:58 <pigeons>	boonies4u-Andro: the sec proved to me they were the sec
Oct 07 14:31:10 <boonies4u-Andro>	how?
Oct 07 14:31:55 <pigeons>	fuck, you really don't believe the sec sent otc members an email saying there is a private investigation into bitcoin securities, and that most of us didn't research to a comfortable degree wether or not it was legit?
Oct 07 14:32:56 <boonies4u-Andro>	I doubt the sec, or anyone claiming to be the sec sent you, nefario, or goat emails
Oct 07 14:33:40 <pigeons>	we called them, using the phone number on the particular investigators name on the website gave the reference nu,ber on the email and asked if they sent it
Oct 07 14:33:43 <pigeons>	the ysaid they did
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Oct 07 14:34:50 <pigeons>	are you saiying that me and practically all the people i trust here are lying? or at which point in this step did they fools us? cause i'll give you another way it was verified at that point
Oct 07 14:34:56 <femtotube>	I guess nefario was just bullshitting everyone in London
Oct 07 14:35:21 <boonies4u-Andro>	so the emails contained the information necessary to confirm that they sent you the email(s)
Oct 07 14:35:23 <femtotube>	moving glbse and what not.
Oct 07 14:35:25 <boonies4u-Andro>	so the emails contained the information necessary to confirm that they sent you the email(s)?
Oct 07 14:35:34 <pigeons>	one sec i'll show it to you
Oct 07 14:35:37 <boonies4u-Andro>	sorry, didn't realize I double posted
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Oct 07 14:38:27 <pigeons>	http://pastebin.com/pyFKBRj5
Oct 07 14:39:05 <pigeons>	look that guy up with google, call his office, ask if he sent the email about NY-8834 and what it's about
Oct 07 14:39:56 <pigeons>	I guess I had to literally beg you to believe that Yes The SEC is Interested IN GLBSE.
Oct 07 14:41:28 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah they are interested
Oct 07 14:41:43 <rg>	california girls we're undeniable
Oct 07 14:41:50 <rg>	fine fresh fierce we got it on lock
Oct 07 14:41:56 <rg>	sun kissed skin so hot
Oct 07 14:41:59 <rg>	we'll met your popsicle
Oct 07 14:42:02 <rg>	oh oh oh oh oh oh
Oct 07 14:42:04 <rg>	oh oh oh oh oh oh
Oct 07 14:42:46 <smickles>	rg, ftw
Oct 07 14:43:03 <rg>	sure doesnt feel like a win
Oct 07 14:43:07 <rg>	so much drama on the forum still
Oct 07 14:43:13 <rg>	about me saying 'glbse has backups'
Oct 07 14:43:21 <rg>	guruvan is now claiming that that's releasing customer info
Oct 07 14:43:44 <rg>	smickles breaths oxygen and needs food to live.
Oct 07 14:43:53 <rg>	^--- releasing customer info!
Oct 07 14:46:21 <boonies4u-Andro>	pigeons: i knew they were interested, I just didn't expect them to knock before coming in
Oct 07 14:47:00 <pigeons>	they did
Oct 07 14:47:55 <rg>	hehe
Oct 07 14:47:58 <rg>	this all started with pirate
Oct 07 14:48:04 <rg>	without pirate the SEC still wouldnt know what bitcoin is
Oct 07 14:48:11 <pigeons>	it did kinda start with pirate
Oct 07 14:48:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65700 @ 0.000315 = 20.6955 BTC [-]
Oct 07 14:50:21 <rg>	i guess the funniest part about all this
Oct 07 14:50:25 <rg>	is it proves mircea correct
Oct 07 14:50:30 <rg>	with his glbse hate-paper
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Oct 07 14:56:17 <femtotube>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117009.msg1253694#msg1253694
Oct 07 14:57:21 <femtotube>	this SEC bull shit is starting to sound more stupid by the minute.
Oct 07 14:57:32 <pigeons>	Evolvex works for the SEC and wants one link to visit
Oct 07 14:59:52 <pigeons>	Did theymos send the coins nefario claims to be waiting on?
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Oct 07 15:00:25 <boonies4u-Andro>	"Matthewh3 - "All users coins on the GLBSE is safe and untouched.  Nafario wants to return them as soon as possible as they are a legal liability to him.  He also said he will soon have a way for asset issuers to pay dividends but not trade shares. ""
Oct 07 15:00:30 <boonies4u-Andro>	uhoh
Oct 07 15:01:03 <boonies4u-Andro>	sounds like those who don't want trouble can't sell their shares if they wanted to
Oct 07 15:01:57 <pigeons>	i worry from matthewh3's report that nefario may feel he needs those coins to pay a lawyer for survival may thus feel justified if he "can't" return them.
Oct 07 15:02:39 <pigeons>	But to be less shitty to nefario, I beleived what theymos reported word for word, and either theymos did stretch that, or nefario is lying
Oct 07 15:03:41 <pigeons>	anyway, the sooner coins are returned and accounts codes given out, the better.
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Oct 07 15:06:16 <boonies4u-Andro>	true, but there will always be some people who won't submit documents
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Oct 07 15:06:45 <matthewh3>	Nafario hasn't paid a penny in legal fees and no Theymos has not sent any coins.  The only way everyone won't get there coins is if Theymos doesn't return them.  That's all I'm saying from now on and probably shouldn't have even said that :/
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Oct 07 15:07:10 <pigeons>	yeah, well everything should be returned without submitting any documents other than the acocunt information nefario already has
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Oct 07 15:08:01 <boonies4u-Andro>	Matthewh3 - "I think he will need full legal ID to pay back coins and shares.  Otherwise he risks being charged with possible money laundering and/or funding terrorism.  Tho he won't disclose that information unless requested by the government/police."
Oct 07 15:08:39 <boonies4u-Andro>	the question is what will happen to shares and coins that aren't claimed?
Oct 07 15:08:47 <boonies4u-Andro>	I think they should go back to the issuer if that is the case
Oct 07 15:08:59 <pigeons>	they go to the issuer anyway
Oct 07 15:09:10 <matthewh3>	I'm not Nefario's PR and probably shouldn't have spoke about our private conversation.
Oct 07 15:09:46 <pigeons>	i know you're not matthewh3, and thanks for letting us know, i understand what you're saying
Oct 07 15:10:15 <boonies4u-Andro>	probably not
Oct 07 15:12:29 <pigeons>	if you are shutting down, you get out as fast as you can, let everyone have their stuff back. if you require new id to give back someone's stuff, you either are going to give that info to somebody, or you think you may need to bargain giving that info to somebody in the future
Oct 07 15:13:00 <pigeons>	you wouldn't want to take everyone's info to add to the shit you're in otherwise
Oct 07 15:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00031544 = 0.2524 BTC [+]
Oct 07 15:13:50 <pigeons>	if he doesn't end up asking for id then i was too critical of nefario
Oct 07 15:14:57 <boonies4u-Andro>	if he doesn't end up asking for id, GLBSE is going to be dead
Oct 07 15:15:15 <boonies4u-Andro>	and Nefario is going to go to jail
Oct 07 15:15:26 <boonies4u-Andro>	if this is as bad as we think it is
Oct 07 15:18:23 <rg>	i dont think nefario will go to jail
Oct 07 15:18:26 <rg>	they told him to stop-- he did
Oct 07 15:18:45 <rg>	now if glbse.bit or glbse.onion showed up
Oct 07 15:18:49 <rg>	theyd probably go after him again
Oct 07 15:19:16 <boonies4u-Andro>	if he doesn't end up asking for id
Oct 07 15:19:43 <boonies4u-Andro>	and he returns the coins
Oct 07 15:21:08 <boonies4u-Andro>	;;seen nefario
Oct 07 15:21:08 <gribble>	nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Oct 07 15:21:23 <boonies4u-Andro>	hmmm
Oct 07 15:22:25 <rdponticelli>	;;echo nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 50 years, 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Oct 07 15:22:25 <gribble>	nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 50 years, 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Oct 07 15:22:39 <rdponticelli>	There
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Oct 07 15:24:37 <dub>	^last seen
Oct 07 15:25:00 <matthewh3>	I think if a I2p exchange popped up and used hybrid wallets like blockchain.info then users wouldn't have to worry about the OP's running off with all the coins.  If an I2p exchange popped like the GLBSE, Cryptostocks or LTC-Global how could users trust them.  I know The Silk Road as been operational for a while but it could just disappear anytime?
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Oct 07 15:34:30 <boonies4u-Andro>	killed buffer?
Oct 07 15:34:34 <boonies4u-Andro>	that's new to me
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Oct 07 15:35:57 <dub>	how bout nao
Oct 07 15:38:42 <boonies4u-Andro>	i know he could have put in any reason for quitting
Oct 07 15:38:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00031508 = 5.0098 BTC [-]
Oct 07 15:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62453 @ 0.000315 = 19.6727 BTC [-]
Oct 07 15:38:54 <boonies4u-Andro>	but "killed buffer" sounds like some kind of server message
Oct 07 15:39:02 <dub>	its not
Oct 07 15:42:34 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117009.0
Oct 07 15:42:51 <dub>	brilliant move, say nothing to anyone except an illiterate 9 year old
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Oct 07 15:44:09 <boonies4u>	I just realized I was using the wrong name
Oct 07 15:44:11 <boonies4u>	silly me
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Oct 07 16:00:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 9 @ 0.08179875 = 0.7362 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 16:25:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35808 @ 0.000315 = 11.2795 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 16:51:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00031333 = 8.8359 BTC [-]
Oct 07 16:51:33 <grubles>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 07 16:51:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00327011 / 0.00339995 (454373 shares, 1,485.85 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00333843 / 0.0034 (1700331 shares, 5,676.45 BTC)
Oct 07 17:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00031235 = 0.3436 BTC [-]
Oct 07 17:16:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00031177 = 9.8831 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 17:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2286 @ 0.00030962 = 0.7078 BTC [-]
Oct 07 17:41:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9545 @ 0.0003096 = 2.9551 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 18:06:01 <PsychoticBoy>	;;seen usagi
Oct 07 18:06:02 <gribble>	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 14 hours, 52 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <usagi> We own 2000 shares.. should be good if glbse comes up :/
Oct 07 18:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00030963 = 7.1525 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 18:13:15 <kakobrekla>	jurov, may i suggest disabling the away thingy
Oct 07 18:14:08 <jurov>	why? it clutters the channel?
Oct 07 18:14:33 <kakobrekla>	kinda annoying and redundant
Oct 07 18:17:16 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: so I think usagi just ragequit forever
Oct 07 18:19:22 <jurov>	okay, znc set up, thx kakobrekla for reminder
Oct 07 18:19:39 <kakobrekla>	thanks
Oct 07 18:29:44 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: I dont really blame him
Oct 07 18:29:54 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: his assets got hit much worse than mine did
Oct 07 18:32:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 192 @ 0.00031333 = 0.0602 BTC [+]
Oct 07 18:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33408 @ 0.00031544 = 10.5382 BTC [+]
Oct 07 18:33:17 <rg>	[18:13] <kakobrekla> jurov, may i suggest disabling the away thingy
Oct 07 18:33:20 <rg>	pff
Oct 07 18:33:26 <rg>	doing nick|away is so 1995
Oct 07 18:33:31 <rg>	jurov is just paying homage
Oct 07 18:33:32 <rg>	to the past
Oct 07 18:33:38 <rg>	i used to do nick-afk
Oct 07 18:33:39 <rg>	etc
Oct 07 18:33:57 <Diablo-D3>	I used to kline people for away.
Oct 07 18:34:07 <rg>	how long were you an ircop for
Oct 07 18:34:08 <rg>	a month?
Oct 07 18:34:20 <Diablo-D3>	on efnet? roughly that.
Oct 07 18:34:25 <jurov>	lol... did not realize, but i did return to irc after 15yrs
Oct 07 18:34:26 <rg>	makes sense
Oct 07 18:34:39 <jcpham>	so how is this train wreck doing
Oct 07 18:34:46 <rg>	;;ticker
Oct 07 18:34:47 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.80044, Best ask: 11.94, Bid-ask spread: 0.13956, Last trade: 11.94, 24 hour volume: 63403, 24 hour low: 11.7, 24 hour high: 12.6185
Oct 07 18:34:52 <rg>	;;asks 12.70
Oct 07 18:34:54 <gribble>	There are currently 14917.521 bitcoins offered at or under 12.7 USD, worth 184121.05157 USD in total.
Oct 07 18:35:28 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: the train wreck is still going
Oct 07 18:35:42 <pigeons>	15 years is a long time people had to see that away message
Oct 07 18:35:44 <Diablo-D3>	pretty much every asset holder has said they wont return if their records can be recovered
Oct 07 18:37:28 <jurov>	yeah, i forgot my lil' server with linux 0.9 and irc bouncer is 15yrs running
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Oct 07 18:38:22 <Diablo-D3>	>15 years ago, 0.9
Oct 07 18:38:25 <Diablo-D3>	dont think so
Oct 07 18:41:31 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, hell, the first 2.0 came out like 16 years ago
Oct 07 18:41:48 <Diablo-D3>	which was a little before I started using linux
Oct 07 18:42:17 <jurov>	i started in '99, so don't remember much before
Oct 07 18:42:39 <Diablo-D3>	Ive been using linux for around that long
Oct 07 18:42:40 <jurov>	but it's always the same crap. only fucking artist can come up with such error msg: "problem-driven null cycle problems=1"
Oct 07 18:43:03 <jurov>	i'm trying to set up jackd to use instead of my hearing aids
Oct 07 18:43:29 <Diablo-D3>	I started linux when debian had potato unstable, and slink was released in 1999
Oct 07 18:43:33 <Diablo-D3>	so Im thinking 1998 or so
Oct 07 18:43:37 <jurov>	if it works, it does nicely. but every while something blows up
Oct 07 18:43:46 <Diablo-D3>	so about 14-15 years ago
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Oct 07 18:49:42 <jcpham>	what is linux
Oct 07 18:50:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 8 @ 0.10200758 = 0.8161 BTC [+]
Oct 07 18:50:14 <jurov>	some wannabe operating system
Oct 07 18:50:27 <jcpham>	never heard of it... is it like windows?
Oct 07 18:50:37 <pigeons>	it is now
Oct 07 18:50:49 <jcpham>	nice
Oct 07 18:50:56 <pigeons>	drinka PBR and move to Plan9
Oct 07 18:51:11 <Diablo-D3>	heh plan9 =/
Oct 07 18:51:13 <jurov>	i'll stay with CP/M, thanks
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Oct 07 18:55:49 <B0g4r7>	Yea, I jumped into linux land around 1998ish.  Redhat 5.2 baby.
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Oct 07 18:57:14 <B0g4r7>	Even had a retail boxed copy I think.
Oct 07 18:57:18 <B0g4r7>	Wish I could find that now.
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Oct 07 19:15:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36500 @ 0.00031287 = 11.4198 BTC [-]
Oct 07 19:15:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 842 @ 0.0003116 = 0.2624 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 19:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> holy shit, the gov't representatives in romainia are elected by plurality, and they use a civil law based legal system? <<< yes.
Oct 07 19:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	femtotube> is that really true that there was so SEC etc agents poking at nefario? It was all just bullshit and excuse << the first part for sure. the 2nd very likely.
Oct 07 19:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 473 @ 0.00349146 = 1.6515 BTC [+]
Oct 07 19:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 77 @ 0.00345638 = 0.2661 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 19:48:36 <dub>	check out atlas' latest vblog
Oct 07 19:48:38 <dub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0PeBwzvQds
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Oct 07 19:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	atlas vblogs ?!
Oct 07 19:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	needs flash ;/
Oct 07 20:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 4 @ 0.21743878 = 0.8698 BTC [-]
Oct 07 20:03:24 <Diablo-D3>	http://imgur.com/gallery/jdKRy
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Oct 07 20:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	wff
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Oct 07 20:24:48 <dub>	guess I should watch this gangam video or whatever
Oct 07 20:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00031276 = 6.5054 BTC [+]
Oct 07 20:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120N] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 20:30:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 177 @ 0.51951231 = 91.9537 BTC [+]
Oct 07 20:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 177 @ 0.51951231 = 91.9537 BTC [+]
Oct 07 20:31:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1 @ 0.51951231 BTC [+]
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Oct 07 20:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 3 @ 0.21701203 = 0.651 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 21:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	anyone looking for a little lol --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=116835.msg1254832#msg1254832 2nd quote
Oct 07 21:02:55 <B0g4r7>	Funny, a guy I know went to law school to study and then practice internet law.
Oct 07 21:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	internet law is thelaw!
Oct 07 21:06:20 <B0g4r7>	http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=807966
Oct 07 21:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	 tragedy of the anticommons
Oct 07 21:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	interesting concept
Oct 07 21:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	tho it'd be an countertragedy of commonds i guess
Oct 07 21:09:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: the fuck.
Oct 07 21:09:17 <mircea_popescu>	yes ?
Oct 07 21:09:22 <Diablo-D3>	2nd quote
Oct 07 21:09:36 <Diablo-D3>	I need some sort of multidimensional popcorn machine
Oct 07 21:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	hashaha
Oct 07 21:11:13 <mircea_popescu>	so, am i the only person on btc interwebz who actually sued gubernment and won ?
Oct 07 21:15:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00031236 = 15.2119 BTC [-]
Oct 07 21:15:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00031224 = 4.4338 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 21:22:59 <B0g4r7>	You might be.
Oct 07 21:23:01 <B0g4r7>	Romanian govt?
Oct 07 21:23:05 <mircea_popescu>	yea.
Oct 07 21:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	others never gave me the opportunity.
Oct 07 21:40:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00031224 = 15.2061 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 22:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 2 @ 0.09878951 = 0.1976 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 22:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 777 @ 0.34645233 = 269.1935 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 22:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	o wow glbse is back!
Oct 07 22:20:18 <copumpkin>	yes?
Oct 07 22:20:24 <copumpkin>	I don't see it
Oct 07 22:20:34 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: liar
Oct 07 22:20:41 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: things you would say if this was magical candy land?
Oct 07 22:20:52 <mircea_popescu>	i'm just being an asshole.
Oct 07 22:20:56 <copumpkin>	oh okay
Oct 07 22:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin yes, this is dawg.
Oct 07 22:21:04 <Azelphur>	hi gulliblepumpkin
Oct 07 22:21:08 <copumpkin>	hi!
Oct 07 22:21:13 <Azelphur>	xD
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Oct 07 22:26:01 <Garr255>	<mircea_popescu> o wow glbse is back!
Oct 07 22:26:01 <Garr255>	mircea_popescu, you are a sick, sic, person
Oct 07 22:26:16 <Garr255>	lol
Oct 07 22:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 07 22:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	gotta change my "hey, pirate paid!" line with something.
Oct 07 22:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	trying to keep with the trends.
Oct 07 22:31:49 <grubles>	mircea_popescu, looks like mpex is down
Oct 07 22:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	ya, i took it down to bring v2.0
Oct 07 22:32:48 <mircea_popescu>	(also, there's an old ww2 air raid alarm that sounds if the site goes down)
Oct 07 22:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	(or so we think, as it's not happened yet)
Oct 07 22:34:24 <grubles>	i heard it
Oct 07 22:40:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00031224 = 3.5908 BTC [-]
Oct 07 22:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29288 @ 0.00031173 = 9.1299 BTC [-]
Oct 07 22:41:37 <rdponticelli>	Hey, mybitcoin returned the money!
Oct 07 22:42:03 <rdponticelli>	Hey, bittomat.pl is back in business!
Oct 07 22:42:15 <rdponticelli>	Etc...
Oct 07 22:44:16 <mircea_popescu>	at least mtgox stepped in and covered for the .pl neh ?
Oct 07 22:45:07 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, the only clusterfuck covered in bitcoin history?
Oct 07 22:48:26 <rdponticelli>	Glad that mtgox hasn't keep covering clusterfuck. They would own the whole economy at this moment
Oct 07 22:48:40 <rdponticelli>	And that economy would be nothing but debt
Oct 07 22:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	and it could rename itself to mtgous
Oct 07 22:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway. i offered to buy glbbq back in may. ofcourse then they were still into this "we know shit" mode.
Oct 07 22:50:44 <rdponticelli>	Or bitfdic
Oct 07 22:51:52 <rdponticelli>	Well, maybe you can buy it now....
Oct 07 22:52:16 <rdponticelli>	And you can run the bitfdic
Oct 07 22:52:35 <rdponticelli>	Buy pirate, hashking, nkcrazze...
Oct 07 22:52:45 <rdponticelli>	Well, it's a long list....
Oct 07 22:55:07 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if we can claim this is our great depression
Oct 07 22:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	it kinda is.
Oct 07 22:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	past 6 weeks or so.
Oct 07 22:55:28 <rdponticelli>	Bring some keynessians!
Oct 07 22:55:36 *	Diablo-D3 is greatly depressed, at any rate
Oct 07 22:55:45 <rdponticelli>	Let's print bitcoins!
Oct 07 22:56:22 <rdponticelli>	Let's pay for people to make holes, and for other people to close them!
Oct 07 22:56:28 <rdponticelli>	It has to work
Oct 07 22:57:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 07 22:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	depressions are good.
Oct 07 22:57:59 <mircea_popescu>	they cull the weak.
Oct 07 22:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	teach people about their personal inferiority, force them to recognize and bow to their superiors,
Oct 07 22:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	a world without depressions is not worth living in.
Oct 07 22:58:50 <rdponticelli>	Well, now I'm depressed
Oct 07 22:58:53 <rdponticelli>	xD
Oct 07 22:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 07 22:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	quick, let's print more rdponticelli !
Oct 07 22:59:22 <rdponticelli>	No, please
Oct 07 22:59:31 <dub>	you dont print pasta
Oct 07 22:59:35 <rdponticelli>	That can't be good
Oct 07 22:59:36 <dub>	well, you can
Oct 07 22:59:45 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: there are no superiors here
Oct 07 22:59:52 <Diablo-D3>	even I failed at getting this shit rolling
Oct 07 22:59:58 <Diablo-D3>	and Im a fuckload better than the rest of you
Oct 07 23:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	apparently you need another depression.
Oct 07 23:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	don't worry, it'll come for you.
Oct 07 23:00:15 <rdponticelli>	I drop that idea when I saw Multiplicity
Oct 07 23:00:42 <rdponticelli>	All the other at the end will fuck your girl....
Oct 07 23:05:39 <rdponticelli>	Diablo-D3: do you really wasn't aware when you was writing your plan that there wasn't a minimal chance that it would end well?
Oct 07 23:06:00 <Diablo-D3>	rdponticelli: did you just do a triple negative?
Oct 07 23:06:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00031173 = 4.6136 BTC [-]
Oct 07 23:06:27 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, maybe you too when you tryied...
Oct 07 23:06:36 <rdponticelli>	:)
Oct 07 23:06:54 <Diablo-D3>	rdponticelli: there was a large chance of success if everyone pulled together
Oct 07 23:07:03 <Diablo-D3>	pretty much _no one_ pulled together
Oct 07 23:08:16 <rdponticelli>	Maybe...
Oct 07 23:08:33 <rdponticelli>	Maybe we just not have the same idea about largeness...
Oct 07 23:08:42 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Oct 07 23:08:52 <mircea_popescu>	great line to use on a girl, tell her you have a large cock
Oct 07 23:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	then in bed when she's all huh ? you go...
Oct 07 23:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	Maybe we just not have the same idea about largeness...
Oct 07 23:10:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.16390534 = 163.9053 BTC [-]
Oct 07 23:10:32 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: ;)
Oct 07 23:11:25 <dub>	just find smaller girls tbh
Oct 07 23:11:32 <dub>	cock looks bigger in their little hands
Oct 07 23:12:22 <dub>	at least thats what, my friend said
Oct 07 23:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	you have friends now ?
Oct 07 23:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 2 @ 0.21288428 = 0.4258 BTC [-]
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Oct 07 23:49:24 <novusordo>	anyone know if nefario is requiring ID just for the bitcoin withdrawls, or for proof of ownership of assets as well?
Oct 07 23:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	novusordo noone knows anything.
Oct 07 23:50:08 <novusordo>	figured, just curious
Oct 07 23:50:09 <rdponticelli>	This ^^
Oct 07 23:50:25 <rdponticelli>	It's just pure speculation
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Oct 07 23:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	but i'm sure once pirate starts to pay people...
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Oct 07 23:51:03 <novusordo>	maybe pirate is nefario
Oct 07 23:51:06 <novusordo>	is atlas
Oct 07 23:51:10 <novusordo>	is MNW
Oct 07 23:51:16 <Diablo-D3>	and zhoutong
Oct 07 23:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	throw obama in there while you're at it.
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Oct 07 23:55:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18712 @ 0.00031173 = 5.8331 BTC [-]
Oct 07 23:55:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26488 @ 0.0003116 = 8.2537 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 00:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2058 @ 0.0003116 = 0.6413 BTC [-]
Oct 08 00:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17718 @ 0.0003116 = 5.5209 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 00:30:19 <Chaang-Noi>	used 5850s for new 6850s?
Oct 08 00:30:27 <Chaang-Noi>	fair deal?
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Oct 08 00:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00031276 = 15.2314 BTC [+]
Oct 08 01:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1 @ 0.21088239 BTC [-]
Oct 08 01:16:58 <dub>	for mining? no
Oct 08 01:17:12 <dub>	best to stick with working 5850s
Oct 08 01:17:34 <dub>	no performance improvement and theres bound to be some go bad
Oct 08 01:20:11 <dub>	easier to sell new 6850s clearly, because games as we know are retarded and 6 is faster than 5, right?
Oct 08 01:20:18 <dub>	gamers*
Oct 08 01:25:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00031276 = 2.8461 BTC [+]
Oct 08 01:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40200 @ 0.00031323 = 12.5918 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 01:50:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35194 @ 0.00031323 = 11.0238 BTC [+]
Oct 08 01:50:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26106 @ 0.0003137 = 8.1895 BTC [+]
Oct 08 01:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 7 @ 0.09448684 = 0.6614 BTC [-]
Oct 08 01:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 2 @ 0.07219133 = 0.1444 BTC [-]
Oct 08 01:52:20 <mod6>	lotta call buying today
Oct 08 01:52:39 <mod6>	and yet so much FUD recently.
Oct 08 01:53:04 <mod6>	yay BTC!
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Oct 08 01:58:52 <Diablo-D3>	dub: meh
Oct 08 01:58:57 <Diablo-D3>	might as well just sell all the gpus now
Oct 08 01:58:59 <Diablo-D3>	and beat the rush
Oct 08 02:00:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1 @ 0.33353018 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 02:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1 @ 0.33116562 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 02:36:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9948 @ 0.0003116 = 3.0998 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 02:50:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 4 @ 0.25410656 = 1.0164 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 03:16:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 120 @ 0.0035 = 0.42 BTC [+]
Oct 08 03:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 287 @ 0.00350001 = 1.0045 BTC [+]
Oct 08 03:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27652 @ 0.00031101 = 8.6 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 03:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 400 @ 0.00350001 = 1.4 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 04:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00031343 = 0.8149 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 04:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34048 @ 0.00031122 = 10.5964 BTC [-]
Oct 08 04:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7552 @ 0.00031028 = 2.3432 BTC [-]
Oct 08 04:33:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 10 @ 0.08678095 = 0.8678 BTC [-]
Oct 08 04:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 6 @ 0.13882652 = 0.833 BTC [+]
Oct 08 04:40:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120N] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 05:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 648 @ 0.00031028 = 0.2011 BTC [-]
Oct 08 05:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65700 @ 0.00030997 = 20.365 BTC [-]
Oct 08 05:06:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13352 @ 0.0003095 = 4.1324 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 05:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 2 @ 0.31620481 = 0.6324 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 05:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00031343 = 5.1716 BTC [+]
Oct 08 05:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31519 @ 0.0003137 = 9.8875 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 06:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9337 @ 0.00031065 = 2.9005 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 06:24:37 <rg>	this channel might as well be #mpexn ow
Oct 08 06:24:39 <rg>	now*
Oct 08 06:24:52 <Anduck>	yups
Oct 08 06:24:55 <Anduck>	so
Oct 08 06:25:06 <Anduck>	all glbse people gettin their btc back?
Oct 08 06:26:15 <rg>	shrug
Oct 08 06:26:17 <rg>	id say ... yes
Oct 08 06:26:23 <rg>	but i also thought pirate would pay
Oct 08 06:26:34 <Anduck>	=D
Oct 08 06:26:36 <Anduck>	well
Oct 08 06:26:38 <Anduck>	12th day..
Oct 08 06:29:33 <jurov>	bitcoinica heist was returned!
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Oct 08 06:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.0003137 = 2.1332 BTC [+]
Oct 08 06:38:46 <rdponticelli>	It should be clear at this point: Nobody in bitcoin pays back...
Oct 08 06:38:53 <rdponticelli>	:s
Oct 08 06:39:54 <Chaaang-Noi>	i lost on bitcoinica, pirate and glbse lol
Oct 08 06:40:14 <Chaaang-Noi>	i was one of the few who has paid back... lol
Oct 08 06:40:19 <Chaaang-Noi>	but now im more or les broke
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Oct 08 06:45:27 <rdponticelli>	There you have, then, the only one that paid back in bitcoinland is already broke
Oct 08 06:45:30 <rdponticelli>	xD
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Oct 08 07:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00031339 = 2.7892 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 07:05:59 <kakobrekla>	Chaaang-Noi how much?
Oct 08 07:07:56 <Chaaang-Noi>	how much what?
Oct 08 07:08:28 <Chaaang-Noi>	how much have i lost?
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Oct 08 07:08:34 <kakobrekla>	yea
Oct 08 07:08:45 <Chaaang-Noi>	more than id like to admit.
Oct 08 07:09:05 <knotwork>	so the moral of the story is, don't pay back? ;)
Oct 08 07:09:17 <Chaaang-Noi>	also lost a significant amount of time
Oct 08 07:09:30 <Chaaang-Noi>	im not saying dont pay back...
Oct 08 07:09:42 <Chaaang-Noi>	im just saying it looks like only the scammers are making money..
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Oct 08 07:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 893 @ 0.00031339 = 0.2799 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 07:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.00031338 = 12.0965 BTC [-]
Oct 08 07:55:50 <pigeons>	what has theymos said about sending the coins nefario requested? does he say he's gonna do it, or has a problem with it, or when?
Oct 08 08:01:30 <Chaaang-Noi>	some one told theymos he should have the lawyer write something up about if theymos did it he would not be in any legal trouble
Oct 08 08:01:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	theymos said he would think about that
Oct 08 08:01:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	that is the last i heard
Oct 08 08:02:06 <Chaaang-Noi>	theymos and nefario are saying very differnt things about who should control the coins.
Oct 08 08:02:58 <Chaaang-Noi>	im not getting my screen to light up on my laptop, any thing i can do to try and fix that?
Oct 08 08:03:21 <Chaaang-Noi>	pigeons answered your question incase you are no longer in the chan :)
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Oct 08 08:06:58 <Chaaang-Noi>	it is odd seeing nefario go after theymos, one of the most trusted people around
Oct 08 08:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	or at least trusted before his entire sell shares sinking ship thing.
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Oct 08 08:09:38 <Chaaang-Noi>	who would not want to sell? also he was selling becasue he did not like the direction glbse was going, the legal path, theymos made that clear
Oct 08 08:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 08 08:09:47 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.02502, Best ask: 11.12, Bid-ask spread: 0.09498, Last trade: 11.02502, 24 hour volume: 86323, 24 hour low: 10.621, 24 hour high: 12.21
Oct 08 08:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	whoa whoa
Oct 08 08:09:55 <Chaaang-Noi>	id sell too if i were theymos
Oct 08 08:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	ofcourse you would.
Oct 08 08:10:02 <Chaaang-Noi>	but he did want a lol price for it
Oct 08 08:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	point was you'd be acting on undisclosed insider info.
Oct 08 08:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	he should have FIRST delineated all the problems he was seeing
Oct 08 08:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise it's just fraud.
Oct 08 08:10:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	well he said he was selling becasue he did not want his name listed on the legal papers
Oct 08 08:10:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	i kinda trust him, i doubt he expected nefario to go bat shit crazy
Oct 08 08:10:56 <mircea_popescu>	he should have saiod "im selling because nefario will likely crash this thing and i'd rather get something than nothing"
Oct 08 08:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	anything other than that level of disclosure -> fraud.
Oct 08 08:11:12 <Chaaang-Noi>	im not so sure
Oct 08 08:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, this'd be why you're not so well trusted.
Oct 08 08:13:17 <Chaaang-Noi>	im pretty well trusted, im more than happy with the level of trust the comunity has given me
Oct 08 08:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 282 @ 0.0032 = 0.9024 BTC [-]
Oct 08 08:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 18 @ 0.0001 = 0.0018 BTC [-]
Oct 08 08:13:54 <Chaaang-Noi>	i have a lap top that works fine other than the scree will light up only about 2% of normal, just enough to know it is there... this is pretty much fucked right?
Oct 08 08:14:42 <mircea_popescu>	you can prolly set luminiosity somewhere
Oct 08 08:14:43 <kakobrekla>	replace the backlight
Oct 08 08:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	"I've decided Nefario will get a scammer tag for this. "
Oct 08 08:15:24 <kakobrekla>	who what?
Oct 08 08:15:25 <Chaaang-Noi>	link mp?
Oct 08 08:15:43 <Chaaang-Noi>	kakobrekla is that pretty easy to do at a computer shop?
Oct 08 08:16:05 <kakobrekla>	well dunno, its not a rocket science
Oct 08 08:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	badbear
Oct 08 08:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.540
Oct 08 08:18:56 <kakobrekla>	umm
Oct 08 08:19:02 <kakobrekla>	why is theymos saying thankyou
Oct 08 08:19:08 <kakobrekla>	isnt he in the same mess
Oct 08 08:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 08 08:19:24 <mircea_popescu>	cause theymos owns the forum and has asked the guy to do it ?
Oct 08 08:20:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	thanks for the link
Oct 08 08:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	and we're under 11.
Oct 08 08:22:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	back under 11
Oct 08 08:22:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.00295 = 295 BTC [+]
Oct 08 08:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	meh.
Oct 08 08:23:18 <Chaaang-Noi>	as long as it stays over 7.5 im happy
Oct 08 08:23:21 <Chaaang-Noi>	btw go LTC :)
Oct 08 08:23:24 <rdponticelli>	Zombie apocalypsis
Oct 08 08:23:53 <rdponticelli>	Go, go
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Oct 08 08:24:19 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Oct 08 08:24:20 <gribble>	Best bid: 10.96809, Best ask: 11.089, Bid-ask spread: 0.12091, Last trade: 11.089, 24 hour volume: 87181, 24 hour low: 10.621, 24 hour high: 12.21
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Oct 08 08:26:25 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Oct 08 08:26:28 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 202360 | Current Difficulty: 3054627.5269486 | Next Difficulty At Block: 203615 | Next Difficulty In: 1255 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, 29 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2953812.97685027 | Estimated Percent Change: -3.30038766458
Oct 08 08:26:32 <kakobrekla>	oh wow
Oct 08 08:26:50 <mircea_popescu>	There has been [for awhile] a fairly reasonable service from MtGox lately as far as withdrawals were going. Is it going back to trouble mode? I have week worth of withdrawals, all don't move.
Oct 08 08:26:54 <kakobrekla>	i dont get it
Oct 08 08:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	wow was mtgox running on partial funds ?
Oct 08 08:27:10 <kakobrekla>	http://smpake.com/etc/btc/
Oct 08 08:27:20 <kakobrekla>	why would be people unplugging them hashers
Oct 08 08:27:36 <kakobrekla>	its not that bad yet
Oct 08 08:27:43 <kakobrekla>	especially with 25 comming
Oct 08 08:27:52 <rdponticelli>	Famous death spiral?
Oct 08 08:28:11 <kakobrekla>	scared of diff
Oct 08 08:28:13 <kakobrekla>	lol
Oct 08 08:28:14 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Oct 08 08:28:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.0028 = 280 BTC [-]
Oct 08 08:28:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.0026 = 260 BTC [-]
Oct 08 08:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 42700 @ 0.0024 = 102.48 BTC [-]
Oct 08 08:28:56 <mircea_popescu>	for crying out loud.
Oct 08 08:28:57 <rdponticelli>	Wow
Oct 08 08:29:11 <kakobrekla>	mp errything alrite there?
Oct 08 08:29:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.0024 = 4.56 BTC [-]
Oct 08 08:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	afaik ?!
Oct 08 08:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 38288 @ 0.0024 = 91.8912 BTC [-]
Oct 08 08:30:31 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 08 08:30:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0001 / 0.0027205 / 0.00320001 (399098 shares, 1,085.75 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.003221 / 0.0034 (2081519 shares, 6,704.59 BTC)
Oct 08 08:30:36 <rdponticelli>	Seems like the crash has just begun
Oct 08 08:30:41 <mircea_popescu>	hm.
Oct 08 08:31:02 <rdponticelli>	Hope not
Oct 08 08:31:35 <Chaaang-Noi>	i could see 7.5 being retested
Oct 08 08:31:58 <kakobrekla>	nah
Oct 08 08:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	we see.
Oct 08 08:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	yest was massive dump on mpoe day
Oct 08 08:32:40 <mircea_popescu>	day before massive dump on giga.etf day
Oct 08 08:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it's a blessed week.
Oct 08 08:33:00 <Chaaang-Noi>	long weekend in usa im sure is also hurting the btc price
Oct 08 08:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	heck, let it go to two for all i care.
Oct 08 08:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	i buy a little more :D
Oct 08 08:34:14 <rdponticelli>	You'll buy it all...
Oct 08 08:34:15 <rdponticelli>	xD
Oct 08 08:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 08 08:34:30 <rdponticelli>	Share a little, if you do
Oct 08 08:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	i'll leave 1 btc for all the rest of you to split up
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Oct 08 08:34:55 <rdponticelli>	Ok, I can use it
Oct 08 08:36:03 <kakobrekla>	lucky i paid for my ssds at 13 usd
Oct 08 08:36:09 <mircea_popescu>	Security through obscurity is not security. Passwords are security through obscurity, so yes, it is.
Oct 08 08:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
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Oct 08 08:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 10 @ 0.05651891 = 0.5652 BTC [+]
Oct 08 08:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	soo gigavps is getting a lawyer too.
Oct 08 08:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	curious how far this goes.
Oct 08 08:42:57 <kakobrekla>	jeez.
Oct 08 08:43:52 <rdponticelli>	Lots of overacting, imho
Oct 08 08:44:22 <kakobrekla>	Another reason to keep bond fees high :>
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Oct 08 08:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] [PAID] 1000000 @ 0.00003459 = 34.58804 BTC
Oct 08 08:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	that's three weeks that were actually paid. if/when giga manages to sort out the glbbq mess there'll be more.
Oct 08 08:56:40 <rdponticelli>	Tasty
Oct 08 08:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	I am meeting with my lawyers this week to investigate the legality of operating a bitcoin stock exchange, or something along those lines, in Canada. I deal with a global law firm that does a lot of work in the financial sector, so they should be able to provide me with a solid footing.
Oct 08 08:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	After the legal issues are sorted out, my main concern is how to create one that is not centralized, and not run by a small group of people. I am already working with some top notch security and hosting people,
Oct 08 08:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	how many times have we read this ?
Oct 08 09:01:37 <rg>	i vote that we just let rg have all our money
Oct 08 09:02:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 17112 @ 0.0024 = 41.0688 BTC [-]
Oct 08 09:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300000 @ 0.0022 = 660 BTC [-]
Oct 08 09:02:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 52888 @ 0.0018 = 95.1984 BTC [-]
Oct 08 09:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	you have got to be motherfucking kidding me.
Oct 08 09:03:16 <rdponticelli>	That guy wanted out...
Oct 08 09:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	guys wanted out all day wtf.
Oct 08 09:03:44 <rdponticelli>	Why I believe all that money is headed directly into an exchange?
Oct 08 09:04:21 <kakobrekla>	who posted that
Oct 08 09:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli o rly, i dunno...
Oct 08 09:04:47 <kakobrekla>	>> 14:59.30 ( mircea_popescu ) I am meeting with my lawyer
Oct 08 09:04:48 <kakobrekla>	this
Oct 08 09:04:51 <kakobrekla>	url?
Oct 08 09:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115553.msg1251984#msg1251984
Oct 08 09:05:14 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu, srsly, when you quote, urlpls automagic
Oct 08 09:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	aite.
Oct 08 09:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	didn't want to spam
Oct 08 09:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.31012557 = 310.1256 BTC [-]
Oct 08 09:06:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.2400318 = 240.0318 BTC [-]
Oct 08 09:06:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.18222296 = 182.223 BTC [-]
Oct 08 09:09:09 <rdponticelli>	So, it was out from S.DICE to short calls...
Oct 08 09:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	those were bought i think
Oct 08 09:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	not sold
Oct 08 09:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	.py 310.1256 +  240.0318 +  182.223
Oct 08 09:09:53 <markac>	732.3804
Oct 08 09:09:58 <rdponticelli>	Oh
Oct 08 09:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	it would cover...
Oct 08 09:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	tho you'd have to be imo insane to sell s.dice half price to buy calls.
Oct 08 09:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	but who knows.
Oct 08 09:10:44 <rdponticelli>	Maybe somebody knows something...
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Oct 08 09:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	.py 6 / 15.0
Oct 08 09:12:37 <markac>	0.4
Oct 08 09:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	stands to profit 90 btc on those c090t if btc goes to 15
Oct 08 09:14:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/pirate-party-member-julia-schramm-slammed-for-defending-copyright-a-856977.html
Oct 08 09:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	lulzy
Oct 08 09:19:02 <pigeons>	http://mathbabe.org/2012/10/06/dissolve-the-sec/
Oct 08 09:21:41 <mircea_popescu>	ou know that if I can actually consider paying the fine myself, then the fine is too small.
Oct 08 09:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	retard alarm.
Oct 08 09:23:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.capex.com/ this is kinda lulzy.
Oct 08 09:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117156.0
Oct 08 09:23:51 <pigeons>	its a game
Oct 08 09:24:19 <mircea_popescu>	haha is that a meme ?
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Oct 08 09:32:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00031245 = 4.4993 BTC [-]
Oct 08 09:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56800 @ 0.0003125 = 17.75 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 09:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 707 @ 0.00031338 = 0.2216 BTC [+]
Oct 08 09:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4975 @ 0.0003137 = 1.5607 BTC [+]
Oct 08 09:58:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54318 @ 0.00031379 = 17.0444 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 10:04:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00031271 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 10:15:05 <Chaang-Noi>	Update:we will begin processing account closures and returning bitcoin later today.
Oct 08 10:15:14 <Chaang-Noi>	account closures?
Oct 08 10:15:32 <Chaang-Noi>	that was not expected
Oct 08 10:16:07 <Azelphur>	Chaang-Noi: what is returning?
Oct 08 10:16:08 <pigeons>	nice, look, the whole situation sucks, he's closing down so your accounts will be closed. let's just hope for the best that everyone gets their coins back and an accounting of who owns what
Oct 08 10:16:55 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah it would be nice if people got their coins back.
Oct 08 10:17:10 <Chaang-Noi>	but this asset thing is going to be a mess, a massive mess
Oct 08 10:17:31 <Azelphur>	get their btc back from...
Oct 08 10:17:34 <Azelphur>	context people, context :P
Oct 08 10:17:36 <Chaang-Noi>	GLBSE
Oct 08 10:17:39 <Chaang-Noi>	www.glbse.com
Oct 08 10:17:53 <Azelphur>	ah cool
Oct 08 10:18:03 <pigeons>	its going to be a massive mess, we know that, as long as it keeps moving forward from here, its better than moving backward or not moving
Oct 08 10:18:20 <Chaang-Noi>	not really sure why thats cool, im sure most people have invested in now worthless assets, not have btc being held on glbse
Oct 08 10:18:44 <Azelphur>	my asset is still worth as much as I paid for it \o/
Oct 08 10:19:18 <pigeons>	well lets see if everybody gets back the coins they do have an accounting of what they have and then we can bitch about how it sucks
Oct 08 10:19:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i agree pigeons but i expect things will slow down. iv already been told i cant accept the code system glbse gave me
Oct 08 10:19:38 <Chaang-Noi>	when i say slow down i mean stop.
Oct 08 10:19:44 <pigeons>	what are your suggestions for an alternate to the code system?
Oct 08 10:19:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i have no suggestions.
Oct 08 10:20:21 <pigeons>	is your main concern with the code system that you don't trust that the information is accurate?
Oct 08 10:20:40 <Chaang-Noi>	i can only accept the code system if nefario will take the liability for it going bad and BS aml stuff.
Oct 08 10:20:50 <pigeons>	i see
Oct 08 10:21:11 <Chaang-Noi>	as far as i know he is giving these codes to terrorists and is using me to launder money.
Oct 08 10:21:30 <pigeons>	whatever
Oct 08 10:21:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i know, it sucks. i had hoped nefario would be able to come up with a better option
Oct 08 10:21:57 <kakobrekla>	pirate could be a terrorists laudring money ... you didnt have a problem back then?
Oct 08 10:22:11 <Chaang-Noi>	i got a lawyer since then.
Oct 08 10:22:15 <kakobrekla>	...
Oct 08 10:22:24 <Chaang-Noi>	also i did aml pirate
Oct 08 10:22:40 <Chaang-Noi>	i know who pirate is,
Oct 08 10:23:00 <kakobrekla>	and how does that help you now
Oct 08 10:23:05 <copumpkin>	AML = anti money-laundering
Oct 08 10:23:28 <copumpkin>	AML = Acute myeloid leukemia
Oct 08 10:23:30 <Chaang-Noi>	if the feds arrest me and ask me where the money went i can say pirate and i can say why.
Oct 08 10:24:11 <Chaang-Noi>	if i take the code system and the feds arrest me i can say i dont know where it went and cuz i trusted some guy who was made at me named nefario...
Oct 08 10:24:19 <Chaang-Noi>	mad*
Oct 08 10:24:39 <Chaang-Noi>	the coins need to go to nefario first so he can verrify that the correct owners get them
Oct 08 10:24:51 <Chaang-Noi>	and i thought he was going to do something like that
Oct 08 10:25:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i was told he was, and i guess he still might.
Oct 08 10:25:13 <Chaang-Noi>	but that update did not sound too good.
Oct 08 10:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3435 @ 0.00031271 = 1.0742 BTC [-]
Oct 08 10:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00031234 = 5.2785 BTC [-]
Oct 08 10:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33265 @ 0.0003115 = 10.362 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 10:53:04 <leotreasure>	how does nefario know where to send all our coins to?
Oct 08 10:54:13 <femtotube>	in short, nefario made huge present to all the sec issuers?
Oct 08 10:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8382 @ 0.00031379 = 2.6302 BTC [+]
Oct 08 10:55:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67718 @ 0.00031425 = 21.2804 BTC [+]
Oct 08 10:56:25 <Chaang-Noi>	no, the sec issuers are pretty screwed. they are now in a very bad spot.
Oct 08 10:56:45 <Chaang-Noi>	if nefario does what i think he will. he however might not so we will just have to wait.
Oct 08 10:57:35 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: I've heard other people saying legal advice they received suggested that issuers (even in the US) would be shielded by the fact that nefario acted as more than an exchange, and he would thus be on the hook for the issuance of bad securities
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Oct 08 10:57:43 <copumpkin>	rather than the people we generally consider the issuers
Oct 08 10:57:52 <femtotube>	how come Chaang-Noi? They have the coin and "no way to pay" back
Oct 08 10:58:42 <Chaang-Noi>	yes copumpkin, that is what i was told to and one of the meany reasons why i should not accept a code system.
Oct 08 10:58:50 <copumpkin>	a code system?
Oct 08 10:59:06 <Chaang-Noi>	femtotube just because they have btc does not mean they can spend them. they ahve to hold them forever until this gets solved.
Oct 08 10:59:14 <femtotube>	btw, I am in attempting to set up a OT server to see how it works and can it be used to pick up where GLBSE left off
Oct 08 10:59:22 <copumpkin>	anyway, I'd much prefer if nobody got screwed over this, especially people I like
Oct 08 10:59:28 <femtotube>	Chaang-Noi: not in this scammers an liars community :)
Oct 08 10:59:28 <copumpkin>	so can we arrange that, kthx?
Oct 08 10:59:35 <Chaang-Noi>	copumpkin you must not know about my assets being delisted and me being given a "code system" to find the asset holders?
Oct 08 10:59:47 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: nah, I'm way behind the times
Oct 08 11:00:00 <femtotube>	Chaang-Noi: I also had a code to get something from your securities
Oct 08 11:00:04 <copumpkin>	sounds baroque though
Oct 08 11:00:09 <femtotube>	guess what, site is gone :(
Oct 08 11:00:20 <copumpkin>	just like Bach
Oct 08 11:00:46 <Chaang-Noi>	well copumpkin my assets were delisted. i was then givien a bunch of random numbers, the share holderes were then mailed a matching code. and we are supposed to meet up somehow and trade assets for codes.
Oct 08 11:00:54 <copumpkin>	lol
Oct 08 11:00:59 <copumpkin>	sounds ridiculous
Oct 08 11:01:05 <Chaang-Noi>	extreamly
Oct 08 11:01:10 <Ukto>	pigeons: I have a suggestion for alternative
Oct 08 11:01:13 <Ukto>	still working on it
Oct 08 11:01:14 <Ukto>	:)
Oct 08 11:01:15 <Chaang-Noi>	no one execpts that system
Oct 08 11:01:21 *	Ukto pokes Chaang-Noi
Oct 08 11:01:21 <copumpkin>	I feel like he would've done a lot better if he'd had professional advice
Oct 08 11:01:24 <Ukto>	I havent shown you yet. :P
Oct 08 11:01:25 <copumpkin>	or paid attention to it or something
Oct 08 11:01:30 <copumpkin>	but he did so much stupid stuff
Oct 08 11:01:42 <Chaang-Noi>	why did i get poked?
Oct 08 11:01:49 <copumpkin>	I still would prefer him not to get in trouble though
Oct 08 11:02:05 <Chaang-Noi>	people can use the codes more than once
Oct 08 11:02:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i have no way to know what code has been used twice, what one is real, its soo crazy
Oct 08 11:02:22 <Ukto>	what codes? wait?
Oct 08 11:02:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i was e-mailed a bunch of random numbers
Oct 08 11:02:49 <Chaang-Noi>	people are to then send me their secret code and then problem solved...
Oct 08 11:02:57 <copumpkin>	I guess you're expected to keep records
Oct 08 11:03:00 <copumpkin>	of which codes have been used
Oct 08 11:03:08 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario made up a system that clearly wont work for more than one reason
Oct 08 11:03:10 <copumpkin>	are they long/random enough to be unguessable?
Oct 08 11:03:21 <Ukto>	actually
Oct 08 11:03:22 <Chaang-Noi>	what if a code is used more than once?
Oct 08 11:03:27 <Ukto>	thats waht I had been planning
Oct 08 11:03:28 <Ukto>	for him to do
Oct 08 11:03:42 <Chaang-Noi>	how do i know that the code holder really had the asset?
Oct 08 11:03:44 <Ukto>	lets hope he was smarter than that
Oct 08 11:03:44 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: I guess you're just supposed to keep a spreadsheet or a file somewhere with a list of the ones you've paid?
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Oct 08 11:03:47 <Ukto>	have you laoded the data
Oct 08 11:03:49 <Ukto>	to see if thereare dupes?
Oct 08 11:03:53 <Ukto>	whats the ranges?
Oct 08 11:03:56 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: you need to trust nefario! sounds like a smart thing to do :)
Oct 08 11:04:09 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i can not do this without trusting nefario
Oct 08 11:04:11 <Ukto>	i agree with copumpkin: with proper care, there would be no dupes
Oct 08 11:04:15 <Chaang-Noi>	sadly right now i can not trust nefario
Oct 08 11:04:17 <copumpkin>	sure, you can avoid dupes
Oct 08 11:04:24 <copumpkin>	you still need to trust nefario's honesty and competence
Oct 08 11:04:26 <Ukto>	Chaang-Noi: your just going to pay out right?
Oct 08 11:04:31 <Chaang-Noi>	these codes have already been sold
Oct 08 11:04:33 <copumpkin>	I don't think he's malicious, but I'm not too sure about the second half
Oct 08 11:04:33 <Ukto>	sucks, i expected him to take longer
Oct 08 11:04:45 <Ukto>	what?
Oct 08 11:04:45 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: did he give you how much each code owned?
Oct 08 11:04:45 <Chaang-Noi>	what happens when someone sells a valid code but its already been used?
Oct 08 11:04:46 <Ukto>	codes are sold ?
Oct 08 11:04:51 *	Ukto is confused
Oct 08 11:04:52 <Chaang-Noi>	or the guy who sold it uses it later?
Oct 08 11:04:54 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: caveat emptor
Oct 08 11:05:01 <Ukto>	first come first serv
Oct 08 11:05:02 <copumpkin>	those things shouldn't be sold
Oct 08 11:05:03 <Ukto>	tell ppl not to buy them
Oct 08 11:05:05 <Chaang-Noi>	people are selling their codes like they would an asset but otc
Oct 08 11:05:14 <Ukto>	thats their problem
Oct 08 11:05:16 <Ukto>	they shouldnt do it
Oct 08 11:05:18 <copumpkin>	buyers need to confirm with you that the code is valid
Oct 08 11:05:18 <Chaang-Noi>	first come first serv? lol
Oct 08 11:05:22 <Ukto>	r buy it
Oct 08 11:05:24 <Ukto>	if they wanna trade them
Oct 08 11:05:27 <Ukto>	have the original contact you
Oct 08 11:05:28 <jcpham>	the code is to be sold, not told
Oct 08 11:05:29 <copumpkin>	YOU GOT SERVED
Oct 08 11:05:31 <Ukto>	and the new buyer contact you
Oct 08 11:05:31 <copumpkin>	(FIRST)
Oct 08 11:05:34 <Ukto>	and do it through you
Oct 08 11:05:47 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been told i cant accept the code system anyway.
Oct 08 11:05:54 <Chaang-Noi>	im not a stock exchange.
Oct 08 11:05:58 <Ukto>	what?
Oct 08 11:06:06 <Ukto>	now i am mroe confused
Oct 08 11:06:17 <Ukto>	i thoguth the code was to show proof of ownership ?
Oct 08 11:06:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i can not accept the liability nefario had when he sold the assets
Oct 08 11:06:29 <Ukto>	and did users get their codes for their holdings?
Oct 08 11:06:31 *	Ukto didnt get anyhting
Oct 08 11:06:35 <Chaang-Noi>	but the code system cant be trusted
Oct 08 11:06:53 <Chaang-Noi>	i was told user have codes, some people have codes
Oct 08 11:07:05 <jcpham>	fight the power. f-f-f-f-fight the power
Oct 08 11:07:08 <Diablo-D3>	YES
Oct 08 11:07:10 <Diablo-D3>	YES YES YES YES YES
Oct 08 11:07:13 <Diablo-D3>	YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Oct 08 11:07:19 <Ukto>	wait wait, is this ONLY for your assets? or for any asset due to closing ?
Oct 08 11:07:23 <Chaang-Noi>	iv seen some of the codes sent to me via email from supposed glbse customers
Oct 08 11:07:24 <Diablo-D3>	NEFARIO IS GOING TO GET SCAMMER TAG
Oct 08 11:07:29 <Chaang-Noi>	but as far as i know its all nefario :/
Oct 08 11:07:30 <Diablo-D3>	BADBEAR CONFIRMED IT
Oct 08 11:07:31 <Diablo-D3>	FUCK YES
Oct 08 11:07:37 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 he got it already
Oct 08 11:07:38 <Ukto>	hey Diablo-D3
Oct 08 11:07:40 <Ukto>	pm
Oct 08 11:07:42 <Diablo-D3>	YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Oct 08 11:08:16 <Chaang-Noi>	ukto i dont know what nefario ha done for other assets, only mine
Oct 08 11:09:05 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: well, you know he tried to fuck me
Oct 08 11:09:15 <Ukto>	he fucked everyone
Oct 08 11:09:18 <Ukto>	what u talkin bout willis
Oct 08 11:09:22 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah he is fucking everyone
Oct 08 11:09:38 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario went bat shit crazy
Oct 08 11:09:49 <Ukto>	well
Oct 08 11:09:52 <Ukto>	thers is some stuff apaprently
Oct 08 11:10:02 <Chaang-Noi>	stuff?
Oct 08 11:10:07 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: he tried to fuck me before getting fucked by nefario was popular
Oct 08 11:10:30 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: i honestly wonder if my accoutn being 'hacked'  was getting fucked by him too now
Oct 08 11:10:43 <Ukto>	he was living off of glbse
Oct 08 11:10:50 <Ukto>	told me himself he had no other income
Oct 08 11:10:54 <Chaang-Noi>	yes he was living off of glbse
Oct 08 11:11:04 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, Im wondering how many BTC I actually lost in DMC, or if he actually stole them
Oct 08 11:11:09 <Ukto>	he said only from profits though, but
Oct 08 11:11:11 <Chaang-Noi>	and there were many accounts hacked that did not seem like they should ahve been
Oct 08 11:11:13 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, why else would he intentionally fail to audit me
Oct 08 11:11:18 <Diablo-D3>	he didnt want people to know what he was doing
Oct 08 11:11:25 <Diablo-D3>	and he realized he would get caught
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Oct 08 11:13:54 <Ukto>	I just need another.. 2~4 hours
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Oct 08 11:14:13 <Ukto>	and i will have a solution for when nefario releases everyones info
Oct 08 11:14:28 <Chaang-Noi>	he can make info public
Oct 08 11:14:31 <Chaang-Noi>	violates his tos
Oct 08 11:14:43 <Chaang-Noi>	cant*
Oct 08 11:15:28 *	Ukto directs Chaang-Noi @pm
Oct 08 11:15:51 <Ukto>	what tos? i dont see one on the site
Oct 08 11:15:52 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: you mean like that passport photo he published? :P
Oct 08 11:15:59 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 08 11:16:00 <Ukto>	as far as I am concerned, he changed his tos to nothingness
Oct 08 11:16:01 <copumpkin>	perhaps it's shutting down cause he got sued over that
Oct 08 11:16:10 <Chaang-Noi>	thats why i never gave him my passport photo...
Oct 08 11:16:19 <Ukto>	that was stupid
Oct 08 11:16:21 <Ukto>	btw
Oct 08 11:16:30 <Ukto>	and childish
Oct 08 11:16:33 <Ukto>	he hadtoo many issues
Oct 08 11:16:41 *	Ukto forces Chaang-Noi's face to the PM window :P
Oct 08 11:16:49 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario has proven himself to be fail over and over, he just thought he was hot shit and protected
Oct 08 11:16:59 <Chaang-Noi>	i responded ukto
Oct 08 11:17:10 <copumpkin>	I bet Ukto has +R
Oct 08 11:17:12 <Chaang-Noi>	* Ukto :You must log in with services to message this user
Oct 08 11:17:14 <copumpkin>	and Chaang-Noi is not identified
Oct 08 11:17:16 <Chaang-Noi>	fix your shit ukto
Oct 08 11:17:18 <Chaang-Noi>	  :)
Oct 08 11:17:20 <Ukto>	my shits fixed
Oct 08 11:17:21 <Ukto>	login
Oct 08 11:17:21 <Ukto>	foo
Oct 08 11:17:22 <Ukto>	:P
Oct 08 11:17:33 <copumpkin>	it's the fucking goatse guy's fault
Oct 08 11:17:38 <Ukto>	it is
Oct 08 11:17:42 <copumpkin>	if he wasn't baring his asshole to everyone, we wouldn't have +R
Oct 08 11:17:43 <Ukto>	is he still doing it?
Oct 08 11:17:53 <copumpkin>	beats me, but I just turned it on unconditionally in my client
Oct 08 11:17:57 <Ukto>	hehehe
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Oct 08 11:20:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 282 @ 0.00031425 = 0.0886 BTC [+]
Oct 08 11:20:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33918 @ 0.00031458 = 10.6699 BTC [+]
Oct 08 11:20:36 <grubles>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 08 11:20:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0001 / 0.00243113 / 0.0032 (753188 shares, 1,831.10 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00305967 / 0.0034 (2451519 shares, 7,500.86 BTC)
Oct 08 11:28:22 <Ukto>	anyone happen to have a screenshot of the asset page details? specifically the bid/ask tables? (for any asset)
Oct 08 11:28:28 <Ukto>	I am kinda curious about something
Oct 08 11:28:36 <Ukto>	cant find it on google images
Oct 08 11:30:22 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/46/cB/1r4yqzFX/glbse.png
Oct 08 11:30:28 *	kakobrekla delivers.
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Oct 08 11:39:47 <Ukto>	awsome
Oct 08 11:39:50 <Ukto>	you rock kakobrekla :)
Oct 08 11:45:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6983 @ 0.00031458 = 2.1967 BTC [+]
Oct 08 11:45:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 3 @ 0.25780139 = 0.7734 BTC [+]
Oct 08 11:46:49 <Diablo-D3>	btw
Oct 08 11:46:53 <Diablo-D3>	theres also the DMC swap chart
Oct 08 11:47:03 <Diablo-D3>	that has approximately the last bids and asks for a lot of assets
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Oct 08 11:49:02 <rdponticelli>	Ukto: did you want a snapshot of the glbse assets page?
Oct 08 11:49:37 <Ukto>	http://i.imgur.com/EHJaG.png <-- that?
Oct 08 11:49:49 <Ukto>	or http://i.imgur.com/Q0aYW.png
Oct 08 11:49:49 <Ukto>	?
Oct 08 11:50:45 <rdponticelli>	Ok, you found it?
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Oct 08 11:51:16 <Ukto>	:)
Oct 08 11:51:27 *	Ukto hides intentions and reasonings, and leaves ppl to guess
Oct 08 11:51:45 <Ukto>	as it woudl be pointless to mention before finding out if any asset creators want to continue
Oct 08 11:52:09 <rdponticelli>	Because some guy made one for my asset in it's thead, but I'm looking at it now and it's only the orderbook and the forms
Oct 08 11:53:50 <rdponticelli>	Anyway, this is it, if it's worthwhile:
Oct 08 11:53:51 <rdponticelli>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99710.msg1145265#msg1145265
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Oct 08 11:55:15 <rdponticelli>	Well, I had also saved the page with the portfolio of my asset account...
Oct 08 11:57:58 <kakobrekla>	i dont even know my password
Oct 08 11:58:07 <Ukto>	?
Oct 08 11:58:32 <kakobrekla>	im guessing there will be a login of some sorts
Oct 08 11:58:43 <Ukto>	based on Chaang-Noi
Oct 08 11:58:46 <Ukto>	i expect there wont be
Oct 08 11:58:56 <Ukto>	asset holders will get a list of codes+amounts
Oct 08 11:59:03 <Chaang-Noi>	think he will collect aml docs?
Oct 08 11:59:06 <Ukto>	and the holders will get a list of matching codes+amount
Oct 08 11:59:12 <Ukto>	no, too much work
Oct 08 11:59:17 <copumpkin>	asset holder can be abbreviated to ass-hol
Oct 08 12:00:34 <rdponticelli>	Everything can, and even should be abbreviated to ass-something
Oct 08 12:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 2 @ 0.38882848 = 0.7777 BTC [-]
Oct 08 12:00:47 <Chaang-Noi>	lol copumkin
Oct 08 12:00:49 <rdponticelli>	assbot was just the pioneer
Oct 08 12:00:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i might use that :)
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Oct 08 12:04:00 <Cylta>	glbs is closed?
Oct 08 12:04:41 <Cylta>	(rumour from #bitcoin-otc, want to check is it true or not)
Oct 08 12:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta has been closed for a week or so
Oct 08 12:05:01 <rdponticelli>	lol
Oct 08 12:05:34 <rdponticelli>	Bad news: bitcoinica isn't in business anymore
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Oct 08 12:06:00 <Chaang-Noi>	whay about mybitcoin ?
Oct 08 12:06:07 <Chaang-Noi>	still going?
Oct 08 12:06:17 <Ukto>	Cylta: http://www.glbse.com
Oct 08 12:06:21 <Ukto>	and you will have your answer
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Oct 08 12:06:29 <Cylta>	mircea_popescu: so, you are the only, who have a stock exchange with bitcoins?
Oct 08 12:06:31 <Ukto>	dont trust the word of random irc ppl
Oct 08 12:06:35 <rdponticelli>	Don't tell me mybitcoin has fallen!
Oct 08 12:06:37 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta look in !topic
Oct 08 12:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli o wow ?! when did that happen
Oct 08 12:07:01 <Ukto>	0,0!!
Oct 08 12:07:04 <rdponticelli>	I don't know
Oct 08 12:07:09 <Cylta>	mircea_popescu: oh, right...
Oct 08 12:07:10 <rdponticelli>	Ask Chaang-Noi
Oct 08 12:07:17 <Chaang-Noi>	what?
Oct 08 12:07:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i cant change the topic here
Oct 08 12:08:05 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobreka does that i think
Oct 08 12:11:52 <Chaang-Noi>	off to watch boardwalk, peace
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Oct 08 12:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4743 @ 0.00031458 = 1.4921 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 12:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi did you eventually get your btc balance from glbse ?
Oct 08 12:46:22 <Chaang-Noi>	some
Oct 08 12:46:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i expect more
Oct 08 12:46:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i just asked for the "undisputed btc"
Oct 08 12:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	um. what % is that ? what's the nature of the dispute ?
Oct 08 12:47:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know the nature. i still do not know why my account was closed and my assets seized
Oct 08 12:48:11 <mircea_popescu>	ok, so did you get 99% of your btc ? 1% ? 50% ?
Oct 08 12:49:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i do not have an exact number but i expect a signiificant amount more
Oct 08 12:49:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not know my exact blance
Oct 08 12:49:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i made the mistake of trusting nefario...
Oct 08 12:50:26 <CoinMasterFlex>	i made the mistake of trusting
Oct 08 12:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13203 @ 0.00031458 = 4.1534 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 12:53:54 <Azelphur>	I make the mistake
Oct 08 12:53:59 <Azelphur>	made*
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Oct 08 12:55:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i trusted glbse cuz people like theymos were in it
Oct 08 12:55:58 <Chaang-Noi>	after dealing with a year of nefario its so clear now he is a crazy baby
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Oct 08 13:11:22 <mircea_popescu>	im getting arab hating spam now. wtf is wrong with people.
Oct 08 13:12:34 <copumpkin>	o.O
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Oct 08 13:13:14 <Ukto>	0,o
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Oct 08 13:16:06 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Oct 08 13:16:12 <Chaang-Noi>	on that note... night
Oct 08 13:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5253 @ 0.00031458 = 1.6525 BTC [+]
Oct 08 13:17:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11910 @ 0.00031471 = 3.7482 BTC [+]
Oct 08 13:17:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13337 @ 0.00031478 = 4.1982 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 13:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117235.0 scammer tag called for theymos.
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Oct 08 13:30:06 *	Criminalio grabs more popcorn
Oct 08 13:30:34 <mircea_popescu>	i must confess i like the emotional responses people come up with
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Oct 08 13:31:55 <Ukto>	y? cause he trid to sell his shares?
Oct 08 13:31:57 <Ukto>	*clicks*
Oct 08 13:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	cause he tried to sell shares in something he either did know or should have known was worthless
Oct 08 13:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	and made no attempt to disclose what he knew.
Oct 08 13:32:30 <mircea_popescu>	and misrepresented what he was selling.
Oct 08 13:33:06 <Criminalio>	mircea_popescu it only appears now in hindsight that he _may have_ misrepresented himself publicly
Oct 08 13:33:20 <Criminalio>	use weaker language until you are sure
Oct 08 13:33:58 <Criminalio>	then give me all of your bitcoins because I've got a deal for you
Oct 08 13:33:58 <DeaDTerra1>	How about giving the whole forum a scammer tag :) We might as well with all the accusations coming down
Oct 08 13:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	no. he claimed he's selling his 23%
Oct 08 13:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	then... it wasn't his 23%
Oct 08 13:35:22 <Criminalio>	some might say that the pirate thing escalated
Oct 08 13:35:30 <Criminalio>	after theymos didn't get an invite
Oct 08 13:35:39 <Criminalio>	and goat's passthrough came about
Oct 08 13:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	some may say many things, including those. i didn't say them.
Oct 08 13:35:46 <Criminalio>	...some might say that
Oct 08 13:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	i stuck to the facts.
Oct 08 13:36:27 <Criminalio>	It's more fun to make things up and write my own history
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Oct 08 13:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	hey, ejoy.
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Oct 08 13:41:58 *	Ukto reloads that thread
Oct 08 13:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	150 replies ?
Oct 08 13:42:09 <Ukto>	what did MPEX have to do with that thread...
Oct 08 13:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44400 @ 0.00031363 = 13.9252 BTC [-]
Oct 08 13:42:16 <Ukto>	4th post or so
Oct 08 13:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00031274 = 0.6568 BTC [-]
Oct 08 13:42:33 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno
Oct 08 13:42:38 <rdponticelli>	Just put a scammer tag in every single satoshi
Oct 08 13:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 08 13:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be the new and improved scatoshi
Oct 08 13:43:09 <rdponticelli>	And everybody who anytime touched a single satoshi would be life marked
Oct 08 13:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	aka scatoshi'd.
Oct 08 13:43:27 <rdponticelli>	Done
Oct 08 13:43:36 <rdponticelli>	And we can end with that scammer subforum
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Oct 08 13:51:05 <rdponticelli>	Maybe bulanula can admin the forum
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Oct 08 13:51:11 <rdponticelli>	At least he's a harmless scammer
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Oct 08 13:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Oct 08 13:52:27 <rdponticelli>	Well, not precisely harmless, but at least the less harmful of the scammers
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Oct 08 13:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	what did he do again ?
Oct 08 13:54:38 <mircea_popescu>	is he the guy with the advertising mispayment ?
Oct 08 13:55:14 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, something like that
Oct 08 13:55:37 <rdponticelli>	Somebody payd him in excess, and he kept the difference
Oct 08 13:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	a right.
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Oct 08 14:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00031274 = 11.8528 BTC [-]
Oct 08 14:10:42 <rdponticelli>	I'll ask for an scammer tag for assbot
Oct 08 14:11:00 <rdponticelli>	He misrepresented value, failing to account for splits
Oct 08 14:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli mens rea.
Oct 08 14:17:31 <rdponticelli>	Scammer tag to satoshi, then
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Oct 08 14:17:39 <rdponticelli>	He started it all
Oct 08 14:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Oct 08 14:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	let's go in small steps.
Oct 08 14:20:38 <pigeons>	adam back's hashcash was the start of the scam
Oct 08 14:21:11 <rdponticelli>	Ok, let's take care of all the bulanulas, first xD
Oct 08 14:21:46 <pigeons>	hey bitcoin is non refundable!
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Oct 08 14:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons no it was paypal.
Oct 08 14:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	Get ready for it kids, bitcoin is going down the path of specialized criminal enterprise so fast it outstrips belief. The next big disaster is already out there- BFL's and the massive pre-order, that will end up getting the royal shaft in about 30 days
Oct 08 14:24:58 <mircea_popescu>	quoth the loup.
Oct 08 14:28:47 *	Criminalio is prepared
Oct 08 14:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67900 @ 0.00031437 = 21.3457 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 14:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 08 14:44:00 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.4, Best ask: 11.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 11.45, 24 hour volume: 99825, 24 hour low: 10.621, 24 hour high: 11.99
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Oct 08 14:57:53 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84062.0 ahh so funnay.
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Oct 08 14:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24628 @ 0.00031478 = 7.7524 BTC [+]
Oct 08 15:02:19 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: it could be true. Maybe if somebody kills the guy, glbse would be back up
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Oct 08 15:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Oct 08 15:02:45 <rdponticelli>	But let's not try...
Oct 08 15:03:02 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think i want it back up *that* bad.
Oct 08 15:03:29 <rdponticelli>	Me neither
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Oct 08 15:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	d;uh, it was you jcpham
Oct 08 15:09:22 <jcpham>	i'm sorry
Oct 08 15:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol i was hmmm who is this person
Oct 08 15:10:02 <jcpham>	like a ninja i sneak
Oct 08 15:10:17 <jcpham>	ninjario
Oct 08 15:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	so is the forum drama-exhausted or what ? i'd have expected a lot moar butthurt on theymos thread.
Oct 08 15:10:52 <jcpham>	the forum has been played out for some time now
Oct 08 15:10:57 <jcpham>	good luck to you
Oct 08 15:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	poor dears.
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Oct 08 15:22:56 <Diablo-D3>	loldrama
Oct 08 15:23:25 <Doffx>	Drama? This would be beyond drama.
Oct 08 15:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	its so far beyond draa it's total shock!
Oct 08 15:23:55 <Doffx>	This is a complete and utter catastrophe.
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Oct 08 15:24:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31268 @ 0.00031478 = 9.8425 BTC [+]
Oct 08 15:24:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00031487 = 7.4939 BTC [+]
Oct 08 15:24:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3641 @ 0.00031538 = 1.1483 BTC [+]
Oct 08 15:25:14 <JWU_42>	what is a catastrophe?
Oct 08 15:25:25 <JWU_42>	what drama did i miss now ;)
Oct 08 15:25:35 <Diablo-D3>	a feline apostrophe
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Oct 08 15:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	JWU42 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117235.0
Oct 08 15:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00031437 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:26:29 <rdponticelli>	Today's drama is nothing compared to tomorrow's one
Oct 08 15:26:36 <rdponticelli>	Got to love bitcoinland
Oct 08 15:28:19 <JWU_42>	mircea_popescu: thanks
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Oct 08 15:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0009 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0028 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:40:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:41:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0016 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 15:43:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0009 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0009 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:43:31 <mod6>	haha wat
Oct 08 15:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 15:45:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0016 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:45:59 <rdponticelli>	Somebody broke his piggy
Oct 08 15:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00031437 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:48:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0028 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:50:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:51:26 <dub>	would be great if theymos taged himself then left bitcoin entirely
Oct 08 15:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
Oct 08 15:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	dub it would be jawdropping.
Oct 08 15:54:55 <dub>	he really is the ultimate scammer
Oct 08 16:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.097 = 0.97 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 16:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 10 @ 0.06366671 = 0.6367 BTC [-]
Oct 08 16:03:21 <dub>	has nefario actually said anything yet?
Oct 08 16:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	it'd depend on your definition of actually.
Oct 08 16:03:55 <jcpham>	lawyers normally shut people up
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Oct 08 16:04:41 <PsychoticBoy>	Mommy I want my btc lol
Oct 08 16:04:51 <PsychoticBoy>	really I want my btc
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Oct 08 16:05:00 <dub>	I mean, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1256541#msg1256541, this guy is a forum moderator
Oct 08 16:05:01 <PsychoticBoy>	and assets
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Oct 08 16:05:19 <dub>	no further proof of theymos intent to continue to destroy bitcoins credibility is needed
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Oct 08 16:07:19 <jcpham>	smoothie still owes me $550 USD on halloween
Oct 08 16:07:30 <jcpham>	i sold him $11 bitcoins months ago
Oct 08 16:07:58 <dub>	its like he illicits applications for moderator positions (already a broken model) and selects only the most stupid applicants
Oct 08 16:08:36 <PsychoticBoy>	thank you dub ;)
Oct 08 16:08:51 <PsychoticBoy>	Timmy
Oct 08 16:08:52 <dub>	you are a mod?
Oct 08 16:08:55 <PsychoticBoy>	yes
Oct 08 16:09:01 <dub>	shame
Oct 08 16:09:21 <PsychoticBoy>	I used to be a better place
Oct 08 16:09:28 <PsychoticBoy>	*it
Oct 08 16:10:03 <dub>	If I were you I would relinquish it or face further reputation taint
Oct 08 16:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 20 @ 0.038 = 0.76 BTC [-]
Oct 08 16:11:01 <PsychoticBoy>	I have nothing to do with theymos actions
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Oct 08 16:21:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.000315 BTC [+]
Oct 08 16:21:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1999 @ 0.00031538 = 0.6304 BTC [+]
Oct 08 16:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00031544 = 2.5235 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 16:46:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00031438 = 3.1438 BTC [-]
Oct 08 16:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7157 @ 0.00031437 = 2.2499 BTC [-]
Oct 08 16:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34975 @ 0.00031433 = 10.9937 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 17:02:57 <dub>	anyone else still have a tab open on ther glbse portfolio?
Oct 08 17:03:20 <dub>	I like to look at it some times and admire my DMC share
Oct 08 17:03:24 <PsychoticBoy>	;;seen nefario
Oct 08 17:03:24 <gribble>	nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Oct 08 17:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1825 @ 0.00031433 = 0.5737 BTC [-]
Oct 08 17:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7475 @ 0.00031401 = 2.3472 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 17:37:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00031401 = 2.8261 BTC [-]
Oct 08 17:37:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00180001 = 1.8 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 17:46:28 <jurov>	famous last words
Oct 08 17:46:50 <jurov>	;;seen nefario
Oct 08 17:46:50 <gribble>	nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 46 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Oct 08 17:47:54 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Oct 08 17:48:30 <dub>	I like to look at it some times and admire my DMC share
Oct 08 17:49:21 <dub>	ewps
Oct 08 17:49:45 <dub>	just noticed this 6 slot pcie expansion chassis sitting in a rack
Oct 08 17:50:04 <dub>	need to steal it
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Oct 08 17:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 383 @ 0.00031401 = 0.1203 BTC [-]
Oct 08 17:53:38 <dub>	one of these http://www.amplicon.com/IPC/product/PCI-Rackmount-MAGMA-2903.cfm
Oct 08 17:55:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00031401 = 0.157 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 17:57:52 <dub>	strewth brendio is in australia
Oct 08 17:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00031401 = 0.314 BTC [-]
Oct 08 17:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1742 @ 0.00031401 = 0.547 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 18:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 103 @ 0.00345638 = 0.356 BTC [-]
Oct 08 18:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 300 @ 0.00338731 = 1.0162 BTC [-]
Oct 08 18:06:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 250 @ 0.00338161 = 0.8454 BTC [-]
Oct 08 18:06:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 150 @ 0.0033425 = 0.5014 BTC [-]
Oct 08 18:06:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 123 @ 0.00333291 = 0.4099 BTC [-]
Oct 08 18:06:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 74 @ 0.00296003 = 0.219 BTC [-]
Oct 08 18:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00031274 = 0.1564 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 18:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00031274 = 0.1564 BTC [-]
Oct 08 18:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00031274 = 0.1564 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 18:12:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00031274 = 0.3127 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 18:12:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00031274 = 0.3127 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 18:23:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00031274 = 0.5004 BTC [-]
Oct 08 18:23:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4658 @ 0.00031203 = 1.4534 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 18:48:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00031406 = 4.6481 BTC [+]
Oct 08 18:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3330 @ 0.00031438 = 1.0469 BTC [+]
Oct 08 18:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49870 @ 0.00031606 = 15.7619 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 19:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00181 = 0.543 BTC [+]
Oct 08 19:10:22 <Doffx>	Wow did S.Dice really tank that much what the heck
Oct 08 19:11:31 <rdponticelli>	That's nothing. Today somebody sold some @0.0001
Oct 08 19:11:53 <rdponticelli>	It's the panic
Oct 08 19:12:20 <Doffx>	What panic?
Oct 08 19:12:30 <rdponticelli>	All the panic
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Oct 08 19:12:49 <rdponticelli>	It's been coumpounding for a while
Oct 08 19:12:51 <Doffx>	lemme guess the Nevada Gaming commision is going after Sdice
Oct 08 19:13:15 <rdponticelli>	I don't know which precisely is it anymore
Oct 08 19:13:21 <Doffx>	Haha
Oct 08 19:13:32 <Doffx>	What a mess.
Oct 08 19:13:37 <rdponticelli>	lol, probably
Oct 08 19:13:53 <Doffx>	I blame mircea_popescu for not specifically telling us so.
Oct 08 19:14:12 <rdponticelli>	Publish that on the forum, and somebody is selling it all the way down...
Oct 08 19:14:25 <Doffx>	Let me get a short position first
Oct 08 19:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	heh get outta here
Oct 08 19:14:36 <Doffx>	Haha
Oct 08 19:14:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's not located in nevada so it's ok, nefario's lawyer told me so.
Oct 08 19:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	also, c0x.
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Oct 08 19:17:37 <Doffx>	Well I'm happy to know that even if I do manage to get my shares transfered somewhere else they will have lost 75% or so of the value.
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Oct 08 19:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx win-win!
Oct 08 19:20:24 <Doffx>	...
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Oct 08 19:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38700 @ 0.00031203 = 12.0756 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 19:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	so is it today yet ?
Oct 08 19:44:07 <rdponticelli>	It should be in the uk
Oct 08 19:44:26 <rdponticelli>	Anyway, there'll be a lot of today's, me think....
Oct 08 19:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	well, things are moving, albeit slowly.
Oct 08 19:45:53 <JWU42>	it is tomorrow just about
Oct 08 19:46:21 <rdponticelli>	Well...
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Oct 08 19:47:08 <Bitcoinbear>	hi everybody
Oct 08 19:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	bi BitcoinBaltar
Oct 08 19:47:15 <mircea_popescu>	oops
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Oct 08 19:47:33 <rdponticelli>	Maybe nefario is living his own groundhog day
Oct 08 19:48:39 <rdponticelli>	I think we all are living the groundhog day, it can't be a clusterfuck everyday. Surely it's the same clusterfuck happening over and over again....
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Oct 08 19:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00031263 = 0.5002 BTC [+]
Oct 08 19:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18142 @ 0.00031203 = 5.6608 BTC [-]
Oct 08 19:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli tbh, the positive way to look at this is, time washing out the grime.
Oct 08 19:52:07 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, at some point it has to stop
Oct 08 19:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	well there;'s not so very much left so.
Oct 08 19:53:55 <rdponticelli>	Anyway, nobody even dare to ask what else can happens...
Oct 08 19:54:20 <pigeons>	remote root in bitcoind
Oct 08 19:54:24 <pigeons>	film at 11
Oct 08 19:54:44 <pigeons>	gavin found in bed with a live boy and dead girl
Oct 08 19:55:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 08 19:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli well preeeeety much the only thing left is lets see...
Oct 08 19:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	i guess mtgox.
Oct 08 19:57:05 <rdponticelli>	There's any tsunami alert?
Oct 08 19:57:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 08 19:58:36 <rdponticelli>	Anyway is useless, they're no alerts in bitcoin. Fuckups just falls from the sky...
Oct 08 19:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	ding ding
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Oct 08 20:00:35 <Diablo-D3>	its rainin men^Wfuckups
Oct 08 20:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	^W lol.
Oct 08 20:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	BURN HIM
Oct 08 20:02:34 <dub>	wait
Oct 08 20:02:46 <dub>	whats 25% of a satoshi?
Oct 08 20:02:54 <rdponticelli>	Please, don't burn anything. Anything burned would be and essential unknown piece of bitcoin, for sure
Oct 08 20:03:00 <dub>	how will I recoup my investment in DMC
Oct 08 20:03:09 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli "MPOE-PR MPEX Representative Instigating FUD and Pedaling Illegal Immoral Service"
Oct 08 20:03:15 <mircea_popescu>	there you have it. i'ma go pedal.
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Oct 08 20:03:21 <rdponticelli>	lol
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Oct 08 20:04:19 <rdponticelli>	Joy dub! You reached the bottom! You can't keep falling!
Oct 08 20:05:38 <rdponticelli>	That's the only joy, there's a low ground...
Oct 08 20:05:48 <rdponticelli>	Satoshi is there waiting for all us
Oct 08 20:06:01 <rdponticelli>	That's why it's called a satoshi
Oct 08 20:06:22 <mircea_popescu>	you should start a church
Oct 08 20:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	(actually im surprised nobody has)
Oct 08 20:06:44 <rdponticelli>	There was somebody...
Oct 08 20:07:36 <dub>	everyone quickly ignore jasinlee
Oct 08 20:08:35 <mircea_popescu>	apparently the bump to 30 really hurt.
Oct 08 20:10:04 <dub>	can you see how many have you on ignore?
Oct 08 20:10:35 <dub>	who is bitcoin.me? changed alias at some stage?
Oct 08 20:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	i think it;s something like 20
Oct 08 20:10:58 <mircea_popescu>	dub he's this douche that kept trying to shit on mpex. then it turned out he's a shill, owns(ed) glbse shares.
Oct 08 20:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	i was not impressed.
Oct 08 20:11:09 <Diablo-D3>	who?
Oct 08 20:11:19 <dub>	bitcoin.me
Oct 08 20:11:26 <Diablo-D3>	oh, bitcoin.me? hes been trying to troll the dmc thread too
Oct 08 20:11:28 <dub>	pretty sure its someone who changed names
Oct 08 20:11:32 <Diablo-D3>	showed up exactly when nefario locked dmc
Oct 08 20:11:37 <Diablo-D3>	so Im thinking it actually IS nefario
Oct 08 20:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	account is old tho.
Oct 08 20:13:01 <mircea_popescu>	but he claims to be some dave from australia.
Oct 08 20:13:09 <Diablo-D3>	and then theres puppet
Oct 08 20:14:28 <dub>	australians ftw
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Oct 08 20:14:53 <dub>	what a genetic fuckup that is
Oct 08 20:15:33 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: haha @ tealc :P
Oct 08 20:15:44 <dub>	an entire continent of people descended from the people the rest of the world threw out in the trash
Oct 08 20:15:53 <Diablo-D3>	dub: america?
Oct 08 20:16:06 <BitcoinBear>	my daughters are watching a nature show about deadly aussie animals
Oct 08 20:16:12 <dub>	well yes but
Oct 08 20:16:17 <Diablo-D3>	BitcoinBear: thats all of australia
Oct 08 20:16:35 <BitcoinBear>	yeah, pretty much
Oct 08 20:16:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17858 @ 0.00031168 = 5.566 BTC [-]
Oct 08 20:17:06 <dub>	amuricans don't inhabit a whole continent
Oct 08 20:17:23 <Diablo-D3>	yeah we kinda do
Oct 08 20:17:45 <Diablo-D3>	canada is ex-english and ex-french
Oct 08 20:17:50 <Diablo-D3>	we're ex-most of EU
Oct 08 20:18:02 <Diablo-D3>	mexico is ex-spanish with the descendants of native rape victims
Oct 08 20:18:50 <mircea_popescu>	it wouldn't be safe for glbse to pay to old btc addresses of customers would it ?
Oct 08 20:18:57 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no
Oct 08 20:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	they can't just send balances to "last address" or w/e
Oct 08 20:19:15 <Diablo-D3>	same reason SD is fucked up
Oct 08 20:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	so what happens to all the people who don't claim ?
Oct 08 20:19:18 <dub>	no
Oct 08 20:19:23 <Diablo-D3>	it cant tell the difference between change and real addresses
Oct 08 20:19:28 <dub>	nefario rapes tehm
Oct 08 20:19:39 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you mean unable to claim legally
Oct 08 20:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	well wtf, this is why irl you have liquidators.
Oct 08 20:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda silly.
Oct 08 20:19:56 <Diablo-D3>	this is fucking retarded, imo
Oct 08 20:20:10 <Diablo-D3>	at least he could have waited until I was done shutting DMC down before he paniced
Oct 08 20:20:25 <dub>	dude this is the best outcome for you
Oct 08 20:20:28 <dub>	you get to walk
Oct 08 20:20:34 <dub>	free as a retarded bird
Oct 08 20:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	dub on the other hand, im pretty sure mpoe.etf had some hundred btc in bidwalls at the time
Oct 08 20:20:49 <mircea_popescu>	to try and unwind it.
Oct 08 20:21:07 <Diablo-D3>	dub: doesnt mean its right
Oct 08 20:21:42 <BitcoinBear>	argh, why cant nefario show his face and answer questions?
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Oct 08 20:21:54 <dub>	cause he's a spineless little motherfucker?
Oct 08 20:22:09 <BitcoinBear>	I guess he hadnt thought of how this would work
Oct 08 20:22:25 <Diablo-D3>	BitcoinBear: who are you?
Oct 08 20:22:31 <BitcoinBear>	he is almost as bad a planner as Dank
Oct 08 20:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	forum noob.
Oct 08 20:22:35 <Ukto>	I have a pretty good idea how it iwll work
Oct 08 20:22:38 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Oct 08 20:22:41 <BitcoinBear>	what do you mean?
Oct 08 20:22:44 <Ukto>	based on what he did with goat
Oct 08 20:22:48 <Diablo-D3>	BitcoinBear: too many bears.
Oct 08 20:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto im listening.
Oct 08 20:22:55 <Ukto>	i just told you
Oct 08 20:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Oct 08 20:23:00 <Ukto>	:P
Oct 08 20:23:30 <BitcoinBear>	I've been bitcoinbear on the forum for about a year or something
Oct 08 20:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	so how do you like irc ?
Oct 08 20:24:08 <Ukto>	As I said before, when I was attempting to work with him to fixup gblse, I spent a month working with him, and I have a pretty good handle on how he deals with shit
Oct 08 20:24:35 <Ukto>	and based on what I have seen, i have a pretty good idea how he will handle the handing out of information
Oct 08 20:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like strateman ?
Oct 08 20:24:54 <dub>	in a retarded and hopelessly broken manner
Oct 08 20:24:55 <BitcoinBear>	it is nice to have current, real-time conversation, but I cant always sit online
Oct 08 20:25:03 <Ukto>	Unfortunately, there are some issues with his method, I hope he figured out sooner than later
Oct 08 20:25:12 <Diablo-D3>	the codes shit doesnt work
Oct 08 20:25:40 <Ukto>	if you do it with enough unqieness it can
Oct 08 20:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	problem is person resubmitting
Oct 08 20:26:18 <BitcoinBear>	what do goats codes look like? are they easy to guess?
Oct 08 20:26:48 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: I can work around that
Oct 08 20:26:54 <Ukto>	first off
Oct 08 20:27:08 <Ukto>	ppl shouldnt buy codes off of someone else
Oct 08 20:27:17 <Ukto>	nefario isnt trying to make a decentralized market
Oct 08 20:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	ok.
Oct 08 20:27:24 <mircea_popescu>	this can be granted.
Oct 08 20:27:36 <Ukto>	i dont know what hes smoking about not giving the codes to teh asset creator tho
Oct 08 20:27:40 <Ukto>	thats kinda the point
Oct 08 20:27:46 <Ukto>	so they can track who had what
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Oct 08 20:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 587 @ 0.0003132 = 0.1838 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 20:46:26 <dub>	.topic
Oct 08 20:46:35 <dub>	durrp
Oct 08 21:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	Wait, what if everyone on the forums starts with a scammer tag, then if your ponzi scheme or exchange or investment or whatever lasts for more than 6 months (or 6 transactions), then you have to petition the mods to have the scammer tag removed?
Oct 08 21:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	This way, you can tell who's a scammer immediately (it's everyone, everyone is a scammer).
Oct 08 21:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	this is possibly a good idea
Oct 08 21:01:57 <Diablo-D3>	well not a scammer tag
Oct 08 21:01:59 <Diablo-D3>	but an untrusted tag
Oct 08 21:02:15 <Diablo-D3>	maybe a newbie founder tag?
Oct 08 21:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	tits or gtfo tag ?
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Oct 08 21:02:36 <Diablo-D3>	giga got the fuck out.
Oct 08 21:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 08 21:02:57 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: my god
Oct 08 21:03:00 <Diablo-D3>	I just had a hilarious idea
Oct 08 21:03:08 <Diablo-D3>	STARTUP THE RPG
Oct 08 21:03:15 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Oct 08 21:03:17 <kakobrekla>	dub ;;topic
Oct 08 21:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	it's what it is.
Oct 08 21:03:20 <Diablo-D3>	you start as a lvl 1 founder
Oct 08 21:03:21 <rdponticelli>	nefario should just put his shit up, allowing only trasfers
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Oct 08 21:03:29 <Diablo-D3>	and.... grind 80 hours a week
Oct 08 21:03:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's what we do.
Oct 08 21:03:44 *	Diablo-D3 is now depressed :<
Oct 08 21:04:07 <Diablo-D3>	well, they say you're supposed to get back on the horse when your startup fails
Oct 08 21:04:21 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, I know how the sausage is made, but Im not sure if I liked being the one making it
Oct 08 21:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20212 @ 0.00031232 = 6.3126 BTC [-]
Oct 08 21:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 2 @ 0.61810948 = 1.2362 BTC [-]
Oct 08 21:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.77852754 = 778.5275 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 21:12:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.3349582 BTC [+]
Oct 08 21:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 799 @ 0.33314565 = 266.1834 BTC [-]
Oct 08 21:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1 @ 0.70264176 BTC [+]
Oct 08 21:14:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 879 @ 0.68945116 = 606.0276 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 21:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 08 21:15:43 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.84779, Best ask: 11.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05220, Last trade: 11.84779, 24 hour volume: 98309, 24 hour low: 10.621, 24 hour high: 11.95198
Oct 08 21:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	aha. back to 12 eh.
Oct 08 21:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 3 @ 0.20373372 = 0.6112 BTC [-]
Oct 08 21:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 818 @ 0.18796849 = 153.7582 BTC [-]
Oct 08 21:16:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 228 @ 0.24406928 = 55.6478 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 21:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.23166842 = 231.6684 BTC [-]
Oct 08 21:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.1742641 = 174.2641 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 21:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00031456 = 1.0695 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 22:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 713 @ 0.77852754 = 555.0901 BTC [+]
Oct 08 22:04:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 387 @ 0.33314565 = 128.9274 BTC [-]
Oct 08 22:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 812 @ 0.23148323 = 187.9644 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 22:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	He washed his hands of all responsibility the moment that nefario (I spit and use hand gestures to ward off evil when I type that name!)
Oct 08 22:29:05 <mircea_popescu>	lmao loup cracks me up
Oct 08 22:30:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00031427 = 3.2056 BTC [-]
Oct 08 22:32:33 <dub>	he's a faggot
Oct 08 22:33:05 <mircea_popescu>	not that there's anything wrong with that.
Oct 08 22:33:11 <dub>	and a disgusting frenchman
Oct 08 22:33:59 <pigeons>	and a werewolf
Oct 08 22:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 794 @ 0.23137224 = 183.7096 BTC [-]
Oct 08 22:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt he's french
Oct 08 22:35:20 <dub>	canadian, same difference
Oct 08 22:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	haha not nearly
Oct 08 22:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	but alas, to omuch excitement for one day. catch you all tomorrow for more!
Oct 08 22:39:44 <Diablo-D3>	[10:29:01] <mircea_popescu> He washed his hands of all responsibility the moment that nefario (I spit and use hand gestures to ward off evil when I type that name!)
Oct 08 22:39:46 <Diablo-D3>	no no no
Oct 08 22:40:00 <Diablo-D3>	you have to spit and then turn around in a circle 3 times
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Oct 08 23:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00031427 = 1.5714 BTC [-]
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Oct 08 23:19:49 <Chaang-Noi>	nice to see glbse is handing out btc and assets already, lol
Oct 08 23:20:24 <Chaang-Noi>	loup is a dope but not livig in france
Oct 08 23:20:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i have his address
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Oct 08 23:25:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13160 @ 0.00031456 = 4.1396 BTC [+]
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Oct 08 23:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14111 @ 0.0003172 = 4.476 BTC [+]
Oct 08 23:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48776 @ 0.00031745 = 15.4839 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 00:15:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00031628 = 7.3377 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 00:41:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.0003166 = 3.1977 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 01:04:33 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 09 01:04:37 <gribble>	Time since last block: 21 minutes and 3 seconds
Oct 09 01:04:43 <Chaang-Noi>	damn it fucking btc
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Oct 09 01:04:56 <Chaang-Noi>	thi is why i use ltc most of the time,....
Oct 09 01:07:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00031728 = 7.1705 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 01:32:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00031745 = 6.4442 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 01:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3424 @ 0.00031745 = 1.0869 BTC [+]
Oct 09 01:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00031755 = 1.302 BTC [+]
Oct 09 01:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19376 @ 0.0003182 = 6.1654 BTC [+]
Oct 09 02:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00031728 = 4.2516 BTC [-]
Oct 09 02:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17640 @ 0.00031628 = 5.5792 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 02:47:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20948 @ 0.00031435 = 6.585 BTC [-]
Oct 09 02:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1552 @ 0.00031427 = 0.4877 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 03:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6448 @ 0.00031427 = 2.0264 BTC [-]
Oct 09 03:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26826 @ 0.00031287 = 8.3931 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 03:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29216 @ 0.00031159 = 9.1034 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 04:03:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15026 @ 0.00031252 = 4.6959 BTC [+]
Oct 09 04:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00031307 = 12.2097 BTC [+]
Oct 09 04:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18742 @ 0.00031623 = 5.9268 BTC [+]
Oct 09 04:28:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26715 @ 0.00031159 = 8.3241 BTC [-]
Oct 09 04:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27285 @ 0.00031158 = 8.5015 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 04:49:25 <zetta>	any news?
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Oct 09 04:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9818 @ 0.00031623 = 3.1047 BTC [+]
Oct 09 04:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14282 @ 0.00031647 = 4.5198 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 05:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29618 @ 0.00031647 = 9.3732 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 05:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7460 @ 0.00031717 = 2.3661 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 06:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48640 @ 0.00031699 = 15.4184 BTC [-]
Oct 09 06:10:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3311 @ 0.0003182 = 1.0536 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 07:02:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00031557 = 4.3233 BTC [+]
Oct 09 07:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4107 @ 0.00031495 = 1.2935 BTC [-]
Oct 09 07:02:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26033 @ 0.0003145 = 8.1874 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 07:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32054 @ 0.0003145 = 10.081 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 07:52:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15013 @ 0.0003145 = 4.7216 BTC [-]
Oct 09 07:52:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00031443 = 7.5778 BTC [-]
Oct 09 07:52:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32287 @ 0.00031408 = 10.1407 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 08:17:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00031652 = 6.6469 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 09:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44600 @ 0.00031699 = 14.1378 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 09:34:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54752 @ 0.00031423 = 17.2047 BTC [-]
Oct 09 09:34:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5780 @ 0.00031408 = 1.8154 BTC [-]
Oct 09 09:34:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1568 @ 0.0003132 = 0.4911 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 10:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16596 @ 0.00031421 = 5.2146 BTC [+]
Oct 09 10:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11304 @ 0.0003132 = 3.5404 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 10:02:56 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: I'm curious, has MPEX traffic increased since glbse went down? if so by how much? :p
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Oct 09 10:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	not significantly.
Oct 09 10:04:44 <Azelphur>	boring
Oct 09 10:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	it had a lot of trafic to begin with lol
Oct 09 10:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 09 10:05:48 <gribble>	Best bid: 12.15251, Best ask: 12.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.04749, Last trade: 12.15251, 24 hour volume: 59176, 24 hour low: 10.97, 24 hour high: 12.35
Oct 09 10:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	o hey.
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Oct 09 10:26:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6128 @ 0.0003132 = 1.9193 BTC [-]
Oct 09 10:26:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58000 @ 0.00031291 = 18.1488 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 10:43:01 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: have you talked to nefario about s.dice PT shares and how to clean up this mess?
Oct 09 10:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	nope. he's not been on irc in 2 weeks
Oct 09 10:43:23 <EskimoBob>	e.mail?
Oct 09 10:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	hasn't emailed either.
Oct 09 10:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	logically there's little i can do anyway or little reason to contact me
Oct 09 10:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	the pt was  run by deadterra on glbse, he'd likely have to get the lists of his new customers
Oct 09 10:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	i think
Oct 09 10:44:19 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, what'd i do ?
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Oct 09 10:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00031209 = 3.3082 BTC [-]
Oct 09 10:51:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13297 @ 0.00031204 = 4.1492 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 11:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob so did glbse send any money yet or anything ?
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Oct 09 11:14:09 <Chaang-Noi>	lolat why nefario got scammers tag
Oct 09 11:14:23 <Chaang-Noi>	its seems only cuz he screwed over glbse (theymos) stock holders
Oct 09 11:14:33 <Chaang-Noi>	not cuz he fucked over glbse customers...
Oct 09 11:14:53 <mircea_popescu>	duh.
Oct 09 11:15:06 <Chaang-Noi>	well
Oct 09 11:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	theymos is completely untrustworthy at this point
Oct 09 11:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	especially given that his confederate that anon bitcoin.me guy said he KNEW before selling
Oct 09 11:15:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought badbear would have not be so clear about only protecting theymoses investments
Oct 09 11:15:30 <mircea_popescu>	that nefario was planning to throw you off
Oct 09 11:15:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought he would ahve said some bs about protect custimers or what not
Oct 09 11:16:01 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Oct 09 11:16:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not know about that
Oct 09 11:16:09 <Chaang-Noi>	is there link or logs?
Oct 09 11:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117235.msg1259176#msg1259176
Oct 09 11:16:20 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz if theymos knew about it...
Oct 09 11:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00031231 = 1.1555 BTC [+]
Oct 09 11:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	make a screencap or quote it
Oct 09 11:16:27 <rdponticelli>	What's funnier is that theymos was the one who requested the pirate passthroughs
Oct 09 11:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	because they've been deleting the girl's posts
Oct 09 11:16:34 <rg>	[11:15] <mircea_popescu> especially given that his confederate that anon bitcoin.me guy said he KNEW before selling
Oct 09 11:16:36 <mircea_popescu>	(also loup garoux and burtw)
Oct 09 11:16:37 <rg>	told you that was sketchy
Oct 09 11:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	rg yup
Oct 09 11:16:51 <rg>	everyone was like ohh noo
Oct 09 11:16:52 <rg>	its ok
Oct 09 11:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli i guess a buncha people did.
Oct 09 11:16:57 <rg>	hes been trying to sell
Oct 09 11:16:58 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos (or someone) deleated a few of my posts..
Oct 09 11:17:02 <rg>	yeah... trying to sell a week cause he knew
Oct 09 11:17:08 <rg>	Chaang-Noi: it happens to me all the time
Oct 09 11:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134974765464.png find that post on btctalk.org
Oct 09 11:17:18 <rg>	theyre not supposed to delete threads
Oct 09 11:17:20 <rg>	unless theyre misposted
Oct 09 11:17:22 <mircea_popescu>	they killed like, an entire convo.
Oct 09 11:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	yaya well, they didn' delete threads, just a bucnha posts in one
Oct 09 11:17:56 <Chaang-Noi>	that does not mean theymos knew that i was going to be kicked off before it happened
Oct 09 11:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	neither burt's, nor the one who quotes, nor the one who the quoted one responds to are there anymore.
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Oct 09 11:18:05 <Chaang-Noi>	just that he sold after he knew
Oct 09 11:18:11 <mircea_popescu>	well if he sold after he knew
Oct 09 11:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	and he sold before  you were kicked..,
Oct 09 11:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	remember, they sold on 24th
Oct 09 11:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	you were kicked 25th
Oct 09 11:18:48 <Chaang-Noi>	oh wow
Oct 09 11:18:51 <mircea_popescu>	right ?
Oct 09 11:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	and theymos himself said he had no ideea
Oct 09 11:19:02 <Chaang-Noi>	well did bitcoin.me join the org sale or did he join later?
Oct 09 11:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	but this is a lie. pure and simple.
Oct 09 11:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	well if he joinedf later
Oct 09 11:19:12 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah theymos said he did not know
Oct 09 11:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	wouldn't the total % sold have to increase ?
Oct 09 11:19:21 <Chaang-Noi>	but bitcoin.me could have joined wanting to sell later
Oct 09 11:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, i sell 23%, and some person joins the sale
Oct 09 11:19:29 <mircea_popescu>	i still sell 23% ?
Oct 09 11:19:36 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i understand what you are saying
Oct 09 11:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	well so.
Oct 09 11:19:48 <Chaang-Noi>	but its not like black and white
Oct 09 11:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	seems pretty black and white to me.
Oct 09 11:20:07 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, it does not look good
Oct 09 11:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	at any rate, it certainly ain't white.
Oct 09 11:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	you know what they say, a bottle of wine with a drop of piss added is a bottle of piss.
Oct 09 11:20:33 <Chaang-Noi>	are the irc logs public?
Oct 09 11:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	mostly.
Oct 09 11:20:48 <Chaang-Noi>	iv not seen any
Oct 09 11:20:53 <Chaang-Noi>	i mena the one bitcoin.me is talking about
Oct 09 11:20:54 <mircea_popescu>	o you mean published ?
Oct 09 11:20:58 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 09 11:20:59 <mircea_popescu>	uh i dunno
Oct 09 11:21:04 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Oct 09 11:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	in general the rule is, he who references irc logs has to link to source.
Oct 09 11:22:29 <Chaang-Noi>	well its a fucking mess
Oct 09 11:22:41 <Chaang-Noi>	this whole thing more or less showed this forum is worthless
Oct 09 11:22:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i lost a lot of respect for theymos and staff...
Oct 09 11:23:05 <Chaang-Noi>	maged even threatoned me, then i made that publc and he resigned the investigation
Oct 09 11:23:08 <Chaang-Noi>	fucking assholes
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Oct 09 11:24:01 <DeaDTerra1>	evening :)
Oct 09 11:25:58 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
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Oct 09 11:27:53 <EskimoBob>	"mircea_popescu | EskimoBob so did glbse send any money yet or anything ?" - I have not received anything
Oct 09 11:30:38 <kakobrekla>	just printed http://shrani.si/f/3i/yn/2V60I68q/bit.jpg
Oct 09 11:30:46 <kakobrekla>	smells like... regular paper.
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Oct 09 11:31:10 <Chaang-Noi>	bitcoin.me was the one who called me a scammer for "taking atvantage of nefarios good will"
Oct 09 11:31:13 <Chaang-Noi>	what a cunt
Oct 09 11:31:25 <Chaang-Noi>	looks awesome kakobrekla
Oct 09 11:31:41 <Chaang-Noi>	can i see unedited photos? :)
Oct 09 11:31:49 <kakobrekla>	:>
Oct 09 11:31:58 <kakobrekla>	well accualy you could
Oct 09 11:32:04 <kakobrekla>	the one on top is sampe
Oct 09 11:32:05 <kakobrekla>	sample
Oct 09 11:32:36 <Chaang-Noi>	i was just kidding
Oct 09 11:32:54 <kakobrekla>	i really hate the lack of nice designs for this sit
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Oct 09 11:32:56 <kakobrekla>	shit
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Oct 09 11:33:20 <Chaang-Noi>	i agree kakobrekla
Oct 09 11:33:22 <kakobrekla>	and www.bitaddress.org is not printer friendly at all
Oct 09 11:33:22 <jcpham>	goat realize i blame you for everything
Oct 09 11:33:29 <kakobrekla>	this needs to be redone
Oct 09 11:33:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i donated to that cause
Oct 09 11:33:39 <jcpham>	everything that has went wrong...you were involved in it....
Oct 09 11:33:46 <Chaang-Noi>	its better than i could do
Oct 09 11:33:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i have been involved in everything that has gone wrong
Oct 09 11:34:05 <jcpham>	yes, you have
Oct 09 11:34:08 <Chaang-Noi>	bitcoinica... pirate... glbse...
Oct 09 11:34:16 <jcpham>	seems like a fucking pattern of fail
Oct 09 11:34:21 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been massivly fucked
Oct 09 11:34:40 <Chaang-Noi>	i lost over $100,000 usd in the last year and all my time...
Oct 09 11:34:58 <Chaang-Noi>	i would have done well if i just held...
Oct 09 11:35:04 <Chaang-Noi>	or atleast be on the good side...
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Oct 09 11:36:13 <Chaang-Noi>	and now i have bs liabilities cuz of nefario
Oct 09 11:36:24 <Chaang-Noi>	and i guess theymos too
Oct 09 11:36:35 <jcpham>	maybe it's time to make a new name
Oct 09 11:36:39 <Chaang-Noi>	the guy who admited to reading pms on the forum...
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Oct 09 11:36:46 <jcpham>	and reinvent yourself as a next level scammer
Oct 09 11:36:51 <Chaang-Noi>	make a new name? fuck that... ill just leave the forum...
Oct 09 11:37:06 <Chaang-Noi>	lol if im a scammer im doing it wrong
Oct 09 11:37:20 <jcpham>	me too
Oct 09 11:37:22 <Chaang-Noi>	im not anon i doxed myself when i did tygrr tech
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Oct 09 11:41:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50020 @ 0.00031204 = 15.6082 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 11:53:25 <Doffx>	You dont have a scammer tag do you Chaang-Noi?
Oct 09 11:54:11 <Chaang-Noi>	no
Oct 09 11:54:15 <Chaang-Noi>	why would i?
Oct 09 11:54:52 <Doffx>	That's why I asked, didnt think you should, but you definitely have been caught in the middle of a bunch
Oct 09 11:55:26 <Doffx>	There's an irony there somewhere, id bet most people would have bet you would have been the scammer haha
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Oct 09 11:57:47 <Doffx>	Even if I get the asset I own the most of back, I bought it at .0032, I could now sell it at 0.00181001
Oct 09 11:57:52 <Doffx>	Makes me sad.
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Oct 09 11:59:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i know
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Oct 09 11:59:57 <Chaang-Noi>	most people think im the scammer yet i keep getting fucked by trusted community memebers
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Oct 09 12:03:58 <Doffx>	Man, I cant imgine losing 100k, I could do everything I wanted in my current plans and pay off all my debt and still have some left over if I got 100k
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Oct 09 12:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5783 @ 0.00031204 = 1.8045 BTC [-]
Oct 09 12:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27859 @ 0.00031198 = 8.6915 BTC [-]
Oct 09 12:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00031162 = 0.3116 BTC [-]
Oct 09 12:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5993 @ 0.00031158 = 1.8673 BTC [-]
Oct 09 12:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15859 @ 0.0003115 = 4.9401 BTC [-]
Oct 09 12:10:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i did well with a company i ran, then oil then gold...
Oct 09 12:11:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i got fucked hard with btc
Oct 09 12:11:23 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: it's all cause of that chip you gave me at the casino :(
Oct 09 12:11:28 <copumpkin>	I'm the source of all your woes
Oct 09 12:11:29 <copumpkin>	:(
Oct 09 12:11:45 <Chaang-Noi>	that chip is still being held
Oct 09 12:11:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i hope to buy it back one day
Oct 09 12:11:58 <copumpkin>	I mean the actual casino chip you gave me :)
Oct 09 12:12:03 <copumpkin>	not the coin I claim to have stolen
Oct 09 12:12:04 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol no
Oct 09 12:12:26 <Chaang-Noi>	i had a budget on the amount that i was going to lose that trip
Oct 09 12:12:27 <Ukto>	lol
Oct 09 12:12:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i never hit it
Oct 09 12:12:33 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: oh I'm glad
Oct 09 12:12:39 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i was shocked
Oct 09 12:12:40 <copumpkin>	I hit mine pretty early :P
Oct 09 12:12:47 <Chaang-Noi>	i got lucky a lot
Oct 09 12:12:54 <Chaang-Noi>	your luck was fail
Oct 09 12:12:59 <Chaang-Noi>	you lost 11 in a row right?
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Oct 09 12:13:03 <Chaang-Noi>	11 out of 11
Oct 09 12:13:04 <copumpkin>	I think I won one
Oct 09 12:13:07 <copumpkin>	and then lost the rest
Oct 09 12:13:08 <Chaang-Noi>	oh okay
Oct 09 12:13:14 <copumpkin>	it was prettyi mpressive though
Oct 09 12:13:14 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah man, osrry about tat
Oct 09 12:13:15 <Chaang-Noi>	that
Oct 09 12:13:25 <copumpkin>	I had similar performance when trying with my own money
Oct 09 12:13:26 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, that was crazy odds
Oct 09 12:13:29 <copumpkin>	which is why I stopped so early :P
Oct 09 12:13:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i did well on craps and 3 cardpoler
Oct 09 12:13:43 <Chaang-Noi>	games id never played before
Oct 09 12:13:54 <Chaang-Noi>	streight flush and then 172 odds on craps
Oct 09 12:13:55 <copumpkin>	I guess this just means I'm really lucky with the women
Oct 09 12:13:56 <copumpkin>	right?
Oct 09 12:14:01 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Oct 09 12:14:04 <copumpkin>	yeah, that was crazy
Oct 09 12:14:09 <Chaang-Noi>	casinos mean nothing
Oct 09 12:14:21 <Chaang-Noi>	we know the odds are aginsts us
Oct 09 12:14:24 <copumpkin>	yup
Oct 09 12:14:29 <Chaang-Noi>	im just shocked i did not hit my limit on losses
Oct 09 12:14:36 <MrTiggr>	3 cardpoler  ... i knew a chick we called that
Oct 09 12:14:38 <copumpkin>	:)
Oct 09 12:14:49 <MrTiggr>	;)
Oct 09 12:15:43 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Oct 09 12:16:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i was told the strip clubs in vegas are pretty good.. i was told this after i got back, lol
Oct 09 12:16:06 <MrTiggr>	sry, cudnt help myself ... as u were
Oct 09 12:16:25 <Chaang-Noi>	meh, we were not talkingabout anyhint real :)
Oct 09 12:16:53 <MrTiggr>	lol
Oct 09 12:17:25 <MrTiggr>	i think "stolen" triggered my keywords
Oct 09 12:17:27 <Chaang-Noi>	so tiggr your thoughts on glbse?
Oct 09 12:17:35 <MrTiggr>	mebe need take that one out of my list
Oct 09 12:17:36 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Oct 09 12:17:38 <MrTiggr>	hrrm
Oct 09 12:17:41 <MrTiggr>	glbse
Oct 09 12:17:48 <MrTiggr>	the sound a pirateship makes sinking
Oct 09 12:17:52 <Chaang-Noi>	id like to see a list of your key words :)
Oct 09 12:18:13 <MrTiggr>	nop :P thats a secret :P
Oct 09 12:18:13 <Chaang-Noi>	hmmm a pirate ship sinking
Oct 09 12:18:45 <MrTiggr>	personal thoughts == not a deliberate scam ... but stank from day 1
Oct 09 12:18:47 <Chaang-Noi>	arrr me boooty is wet
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Oct 09 12:18:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think glbse was a scam
Oct 09 12:19:01 <MrTiggr>	nop
Oct 09 12:19:11 <MrTiggr>	but badly handled
Oct 09 12:19:19 <MrTiggr>	nefarious--
Oct 09 12:19:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i think nefario was drunk with power and when he was told he cant act like a tyrant took his ball and went home
Oct 09 12:19:41 <Chaang-Noi>	and he calls himself a doctor too
Oct 09 12:19:45 <Chaang-Noi>	like a supervillion
Oct 09 12:19:51 <Chaang-Noi>	lol what a baby
Oct 09 12:19:57 <MrTiggr>	"Of course im drunk with power .. ever tried going crazy without it? noone listens"
Oct 09 12:20:17 <MrTiggr>	*simpsons reference 100 bonus points*
Oct 09 12:20:44 <MrTiggr>	lol and, iirc DR Nefario IS actually a DR
Oct 09 12:20:56 <MrTiggr>	not a medical MD but has a doctorite
Oct 09 12:21:14 <Chaang-Noi>	he needs an MBA
Oct 09 12:21:25 <MrTiggr>	lol and several other acronyms
Oct 09 12:21:40 <MrTiggr>	badly managed and i shudda seen it coming is my opinion
Oct 09 12:21:48 <MrTiggr>	jus too much else to eat popcoin to
Oct 09 12:21:55 <Chaang-Noi>	well
Oct 09 12:22:01 <Chaang-Noi>	i worked with him for a year
Oct 09 12:22:13 <Chaang-Noi>	i knew he lied and made deals he could not keep
Oct 09 12:22:20 <MrTiggr>	yah - he donated the bitcoin-police website/domain
Oct 09 12:22:22 <Chaang-Noi>	however i never expected this meltdown
Oct 09 12:22:28 <MrTiggr>	i dont think he MEANT to rip anyone
Oct 09 12:22:45 <Chaang-Noi>	im not so sure he even understands he hurt anyone at this point
Oct 09 12:22:52 <MrTiggr>	yah i agree
Oct 09 12:23:02 <MrTiggr>	his d0x is had .. if need be hes done
Oct 09 12:23:04 <Doffx>	I expected it from the time I started using it, however how the hell could I possibly pinpoint the exact when.
Oct 09 12:23:12 <MrTiggr>	but id like to think he will do the right thing
Oct 09 12:23:16 <jcpham>	just take it easy on me
Oct 09 12:23:19 <jcpham>	i'm a good guy
Oct 09 12:23:22 <MrTiggr>	(wishful thinking perhaps)
Oct 09 12:23:47 <MrTiggr>	lol jcpham checks out :D give HIM yer bitcoins
Oct 09 12:23:48 <Doffx>	I treated all of these things as a gamble and I dont like losing so i'm still angry about it.
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Oct 09 12:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	MrTiggr most scams work out as good intentions turned sour.
Oct 09 12:24:12 <mircea_popescu>	you've seen pulp fiction ?
Oct 09 12:24:28 <MrTiggr>	unfortunately u are right, mircea_popescu
Oct 09 12:24:37 <Chaang-Noi>	wonder how he will deal with my delisted assets
Oct 09 12:24:48 <Lyspooner>	was pulp fiction a scam?
Oct 09 12:24:59 <Chaang-Noi>	also shocked at theymos tossing nefario under the bus at first sign of trouble
Oct 09 12:25:14 <jcpham>	i'm no longer willing to accept the funds of others
Oct 09 12:25:18 <jcpham>	or not at this time
Oct 09 12:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner hehe no, there's a scene wherein frank whaley says "we got into this thing with the best intentions"
Oct 09 12:31:11 <MrTiggr>	lol   ... an over-used phrase in the bitcoin world for sure
Oct 09 12:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	jackson's reply is something like "my name's pitt and you'ass ain't talkin' your way outta this shit"
Oct 09 12:32:15 <MrTiggr>	lollllllll
Oct 09 12:32:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9476 @ 0.0003115 = 2.9518 BTC [-]
Oct 09 12:35:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6724 @ 0.00031145 = 2.0942 BTC [-]
Oct 09 12:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7270 @ 0.00031231 = 2.2705 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75158 @ 0.00031236 = 23.4764 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6753 @ 0.00031595 = 2.1336 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00031703 = 5.2944 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55441 @ 0.0003182 = 17.6413 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00031941 = 13.2555 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 12:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4278 @ 0.00031961 = 1.3673 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62840 @ 0.00031965 = 20.0868 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00031987 = 1.9512 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00032035 = 4.1325 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26769 @ 0.000321 = 8.5928 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00032128 = 1.6064 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50270 @ 0.00032133 = 16.1533 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00032135 = 13.2075 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5349 @ 0.00032349 = 1.7303 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 12:35:25 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Oct 09 12:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00032383 = 8.1929 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00032667 = 11.2701 BTC [+]
Oct 09 12:35:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3548 @ 0.00032706 = 1.1604 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 13:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61600 @ 0.0003115 = 19.1884 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 13:26:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00031144 = 7.9729 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 13:37:58 <rdponticelli>	;;rate nefario -1 At the very least, has been managing horribly the closing up of glbse...
Oct 09 13:37:59 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user nefario has been recorded.
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Oct 09 13:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;gettrust nefario
Oct 09 13:40:10 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user nefario: Level 1: -1, Level 2: -2 via 5 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=nefario
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Oct 09 13:47:19 <kakobrekla>	gahh borring
Oct 09 13:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.0003115 = 0.0312 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 14:06:34 <jurov>	kakobrekla, how many people are there?
Oct 09 14:06:54 <jurov>	we too had some meetings here in bratislava, about 20 ppl came
Oct 09 14:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	jurov pics ? blogposts ?
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Oct 09 14:15:07 <jurov>	i'm not there anyway, i did talk about coinbr but that was not recorded
Oct 09 14:15:13 <kakobrekla>	hm
Oct 09 14:15:18 <kakobrekla>	id say
Oct 09 14:15:23 <kakobrekla>	just under 100
Oct 09 14:15:33 <kakobrekla>	and jesus fuck a lot of nonsense
Oct 09 14:15:45 <kakobrekla>	i should be talking here
Oct 09 14:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33202 @ 0.00031329 = 10.4019 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 14:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	100 ?!
Oct 09 14:17:27 <mircea_popescu>	wow.
Oct 09 14:17:37 <kakobrekla>	bitstamp is talking laterz
Oct 09 14:17:43 <kakobrekla>	he owes me a coke.
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Oct 09 14:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Oct 09 14:20:37 <mircea_popescu>	you folks got a feed anywhere ?
Oct 09 14:21:06 <kakobrekla>	http://www.kiberpipa.org:8099/live.html
Oct 09 14:21:23 <kakobrekla>	im sitting 1m right of the the pinguin lol
Oct 09 14:21:43 <kakobrekla>	not this set is ending
Oct 09 14:21:48 <kakobrekla>	im guessing there will be a pause
Oct 09 14:22:28 <kakobrekla>	end
Oct 09 14:22:30 <mircea_popescu>	the stuffed penguin or the gesturing penguin ?
Oct 09 14:22:35 <kakobrekla>	aha
Oct 09 14:22:37 <kakobrekla>	bitstamp is now
Oct 09 14:22:41 <kakobrekla>	no pause
Oct 09 14:27:16 <kakobrekla>	ok mircea_popescu your favourite guys
Oct 09 14:27:19 <kakobrekla>	now :)
Oct 09 14:27:34 <EskimoBob>	where did usagi go? I miss that crazy mancunt .. No, actually I do not miss him at all
Oct 09 14:27:55 <OneEyed>	Arf, just noticed the new MPOE-PR avatar
Oct 09 14:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Oct 09 14:28:28 <mircea_popescu>	my ignore list sucks, i used to get 500-600 lines a day
Oct 09 14:28:32 <mircea_popescu>	yest was 0, today it's 0 wtf.
Oct 09 14:28:35 <EskimoBob>	cm'n guys, I have this absolutely worthless test security in OT. pays 10% per week (in your dreams)
Oct 09 14:29:04 <EskimoBob>	oh, I think I have him on ignore :(
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Oct 09 14:41:53 <kakobrekla>	i removed myself from the room
Oct 09 14:42:02 <kakobrekla>	too much bull.
Oct 09 14:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00031398 = 0.2198 BTC [+]
Oct 09 14:43:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 14:44:33 <kakobrekla>	i could troll the shit out of bitstamp
Oct 09 14:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	awww
Oct 09 14:45:41 <FabianB>	main audience are noobs?
Oct 09 14:45:56 <kakobrekla>	tech savy bitcoin noobs
Oct 09 14:46:04 <kakobrekla>	some miners there also
Oct 09 14:46:17 <jurov>	please come to camera and wave to us :DDDD
Oct 09 14:46:28 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Oct 09 14:46:32 <kakobrekla>	im outside now
Oct 09 14:46:35 <kakobrekla>	couldnt handle it
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Oct 09 14:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117235.msg1259895#msg1259895 this is a pretty good post for the newer kids on the block that might not know the old dirt. brought to you by B0g4r7
Oct 09 14:56:18 <B0g4r7_>	Thank you, thank you very much.
Oct 09 14:56:28 <B0g4r7_>	</elvis>
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Oct 09 15:05:49 <pigeons>	is it "later today" yet?
Oct 09 15:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00031734 = 9.7423 BTC [+]
Oct 09 15:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	"The stock market platform (from here on called "the market") steals a number of ideas from OpenTransactions. We will be developing both projects side by side, and where possible share code to reduce the workload, cost and development time."
Oct 09 15:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	quoth nefario. who knew :p
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Oct 09 15:11:37 <rdponticelli>	It is Today's "later today"
Oct 09 15:11:54 <rdponticelli>	We'll see a lot of those passing by
Oct 09 15:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	tomorrow is another today!
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Oct 09 15:21:03 <KeTheR>	it was "later today" yesterday
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Oct 09 15:25:22 <hnz>	great that "today" happens every day
Oct 09 15:26:50 <mircea_popescu>	i predict the end of the world will occur later today
Oct 09 15:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	or tomorrow.
Oct 09 15:27:25 <rdponticelli>	There's no tomorrow
Oct 09 15:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	well if there's the end of the world then there isn't.
Oct 09 15:27:53 <copumpkin>	tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow
Oct 09 15:28:10 <Eisenhower34>	right now i have to be honest ,i wait more for Oct 12th than for a GLBSE return ...
Oct 09 15:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	the marrow of today's tomorrow.
Oct 09 15:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	Eisenhower34 that's harsh man.
Oct 09 15:28:50 <copumpkin>	so you can not get your coins back from pirate first, and then not get your coins back from nefario?
Oct 09 15:29:31 <Eisenhower34>	harsh? why? Alot lost much more to pirate than to GLBSE
Oct 09 15:29:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 15:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	Eisenhower34 i was just being an ass.
Oct 09 15:29:51 <Eisenhower34>	^^ ah ok :)
Oct 09 15:34:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22244 @ 0.00031416 = 6.9882 BTC [-]
Oct 09 15:34:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11955 @ 0.00031398 = 3.7536 BTC [-]
Oct 09 15:34:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 501 @ 0.00031329 = 0.157 BTC [-]
Oct 09 15:40:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.47034915 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 15:49:12 <smickles>	aw dammit, i typed /quit and hit enter
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Oct 09 15:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	wb lol
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Oct 09 15:53:29 <kakobrekla>	im dissapint and mad
Oct 09 15:53:33 <kakobrekla>	dissapoint
Oct 09 15:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	?
Oct 09 15:54:11 <kakobrekla>	dissapoint because of the noobishness on the conference and mad because i accualy went there as i could have been easily dissapointed via live stream
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Oct 09 15:57:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 15:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	will take a lot of frustration and dissapointment from people just like you before conferences become actually worth going to.
Oct 09 15:57:57 <dub>	but like, you like could like have like built like like like like like like like like like like like the like future of like bitcoin!
Oct 09 15:58:02 <rdponticelli>	kakobrekla: you don't need to follow anything. Dissapointness just finds you and falls onto your head wherever you're in bitcoinland.
Oct 09 15:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	so don't feel entirely bad, you've saved me some time.
Oct 09 15:58:58 <dub>	you could have saved us all some time ans shot nefario in the face
Oct 09 16:00:15 <kakobrekla>	at least some new people got introducet to btc
Oct 09 16:00:21 <kakobrekla>	introduced
Oct 09 16:00:26 <EskimoBob>	more misery
Oct 09 16:02:37 <kakobrekla>	i didnt get my coke.
Oct 09 16:02:49 <kakobrekla>	bitstamp is scam.
Oct 09 16:04:17 <smickles>	so, the situation with glbse is still pretty much a waiting game, eh?
Oct 09 16:05:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30997 @ 0.00031329 = 9.7111 BTC [-]
Oct 09 16:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00031144 = 0.8097 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 16:06:32 <rdponticelli>	smickles: yes, exacly as every other bitcoin "business" which have to return funds
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Oct 09 16:07:01 <rdponticelli>	Oh, yes, wait a little longer, funds are coming
Oct 09 16:07:03 <rdponticelli>	lol
Oct 09 16:07:04 <mircea_popescu>	dub i thought i kinda did.
Oct 09 16:07:22 <smickles>	I'm not all that concerned with the funds (in my personal situation), rdponticelli but the shareholder info, that's what I want
Oct 09 16:07:44 <jcpham>	why hello there smickles
Oct 09 16:07:55 <rdponticelli>	smickles: I'm exactly in the same situation
Oct 09 16:07:56 <smickles>	Good Day jcpham :)
Oct 09 16:08:21 <rdponticelli>	I just had pocket change on the site
Oct 09 16:08:34 <jcpham>	i'm only interested in the assets
Oct 09 16:08:37 <jcpham>	and only one at that
Oct 09 16:08:39 <rdponticelli>	But I need the list of holding of users
Oct 09 16:08:52 <rdponticelli>	And my own holdings
Oct 09 16:11:06 <rdponticelli>	Well, I have the list of my transactions, I've downloaded the csv minutes before the closing up
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Oct 09 16:13:39 <jcpham>	http://lmgtfy.com/?q=scammer+tag&l=1
Oct 09 16:13:44 <jcpham>	maybe you've seen this
Oct 09 16:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13.msg46#msg46 "q : how many coins are created by a cpu miner a day right now ? a (satoshi) : a few hundred)
Oct 09 16:14:39 <Doffx>	haha
Oct 09 16:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham ahahaha
Oct 09 16:15:56 <jcpham>	please update your thread with that link
Oct 09 16:16:05 <jcpham>	google loop!
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Oct 09 16:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	im blogging this
Oct 09 16:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	(with tht link)
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Oct 09 16:18:02 <smickles>	jcpham: nofucken way
Oct 09 16:18:15 <jcpham>	true story
Oct 09 16:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	its true.
Oct 09 16:18:24 <jcpham>	google knows things.
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Oct 09 16:24:38 <jurov>	<kakobrekla> bitstamp is scam... why? i was thinking of using it someday
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Oct 09 16:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	jurov he was just being funny. guys promised him a coke.
Oct 09 16:26:49 <jurov>	ah sooooo
Oct 09 16:27:45 <jurov>	good this isn't btctalk.. kakobreklad would end up in sorry place like rapeghost
Oct 09 16:28:37 <kakobrekla>	lol
Oct 09 16:28:46 <kakobrekla>	yeah jurov
Oct 09 16:28:51 <kakobrekla>	they wont steal your money
Oct 09 16:28:54 <kakobrekla>	but thats it.
Oct 09 16:29:01 <kakobrekla>	dont expect anything more :)
Oct 09 16:29:24 <smickles>	someone, be a doll, buy some puts http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P140T
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Oct 09 16:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3110 @ 0.00031143 = 0.9685 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 16:32:54 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117445.0
Oct 09 16:32:55 <kakobrekla>	heh
Oct 09 16:33:01 <kakobrekla>	bad times for btc
Oct 09 16:33:06 <kakobrekla>	only kako is up!
Oct 09 16:33:11 <kakobrekla>	;>
Oct 09 16:34:07 <jurov>	hehe i'm up too... expect update in few days
Oct 09 16:34:26 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ya it was announced a bit earlier
Oct 09 16:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	they claim lack of volume
Oct 09 16:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	then they offer 600 btc bidwall at 12.1, ie, 30 cents over price.
Oct 09 16:35:02 <kakobrekla>	heh
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Oct 09 16:41:21 <knotwork>	Seems Theymos might be doing a decent job of teaching people to trust no-one
Oct 09 16:41:44 <knotwork>	not as good a job as pirate maybe though
Oct 09 16:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	probably of general interest : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/scammer-tag-nefario-theymos-others-known-and-unknown/
Oct 09 16:46:58 <dub>	where is the new MPOE-PR avatar from?
Oct 09 16:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	it's actually her old avatar
Oct 09 16:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean where's it from ?
Oct 09 16:47:45 <dub>	looks familiar
Oct 09 16:47:49 <jcpham>	i like how smilies are used as utter sarcasm
Oct 09 16:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	dub you prolly recall it from earlier this year, she was using it on forum
Oct 09 16:49:58 <kakobrekla>	moody said its ok to advertise smpake but not bit4x.
Oct 09 16:50:00 <kakobrekla>	scammer.
Oct 09 16:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 16:51:45 <kakobrekla>	fine, ill advertise smpake and put bit4x banner on top of the page.
Oct 09 16:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 16:54:19 <pigeons>	forex = scammer! run a legititmate ponzi like everyone else
Oct 09 16:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	^^
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Oct 09 16:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50868 @ 0.00031137 = 15.8388 BTC [-]
Oct 09 16:58:33 <kakobrekla>	i aint no milk.
Oct 09 16:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Oct 09 16:59:02 <mircea_popescu>	took me a moment that 1
Oct 09 16:59:28 <mircea_popescu>	usagi will now forever live in this community, not through his dubious gender identity or horrible business practice,
Oct 09 16:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	but through this brilliant addition to the folk culture. MILK IS A SCAMMER!
Oct 09 17:00:51 <jurov>	we have had ads saying: Everything Is Scam, Only Milk Is Water
Oct 09 17:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Oct 09 17:03:50 <kakobrekla>	win http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=MENjFkEAj9g&NR=1
Oct 09 17:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	awesome kakobrekla
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Oct 09 17:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1260084#msg1260084 i wonder who he means ?
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Oct 09 17:15:05 <TooTnBooT>	mircea_popescu - Who do you think he means?
Oct 09 17:15:36 <mircea_popescu>	TooTnBooT possibly gavin.
Oct 09 17:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	then again, aspies are aspies.
Oct 09 17:16:16 <TooTnBooT>	Interesting.
Oct 09 17:16:44 <TooTnBooT>	So possibly when he decided to legitimately acknowledge being a Bitcoin developer, he wanted to separate the fact that he holds millions in BTC?
Oct 09 17:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's dubious he holds millions.
Oct 09 17:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	at the time mining became really a public endeavour block count was ~20k. that'd be one million.
Oct 09 17:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	i guess if he never sold anything and mined a majority of those first 20k blocks he could have 1mn.
Oct 09 17:20:12 <Ukto>	hmm
Oct 09 17:20:59 <dub>	oh hey, pirate is paying back this weekend
Oct 09 17:21:23 <TooTnBooT>	dub - funny
Oct 09 17:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00031143 = 2.5537 BTC [+]
Oct 09 17:21:30 <Ukto>	in a system.. if last trade was a buy at say.. 1.5... and there is a sell at 1.75 that goes through, even though the price is higher than the last trade, woudl you mark that as an up or down for last trade?
Oct 09 17:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	TooTnBooT and who might you be ?
Oct 09 17:21:41 <Ukto>	cause in theory it was a downward aimed sell
Oct 09 17:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto +
Oct 09 17:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	its up from last  trade, so +
Oct 09 17:22:44 <kakobrekla>	assbot would say +
Oct 09 17:22:55 <Ukto>	so it takes 2 sell's work to declare a down?
Oct 09 17:22:58 <TooTnBooT>	mircea_popescu - I was in here asking about investing a week or so ago.  You criticized my knowledge.
Oct 09 17:23:13 <kakobrekla>	Ukto it can be 2 buys
Oct 09 17:23:22 <kakobrekla>	or a sale and a buy
Oct 09 17:23:24 <kakobrekla>	or a buy and a sale
Oct 09 17:23:31 <mircea_popescu>	TooTnBooT how's that worked out for you ?
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Oct 09 17:23:44 <Ukto>	i jsut figured that a sale, would be aimed down
Oct 09 17:23:45 <Ukto>	lol
Oct 09 17:23:48 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto it takes the price oflast sale going under the price of prev last sale
Oct 09 17:23:53 <Ukto>	yeh
Oct 09 17:23:55 *	Ukto sighs
Oct 09 17:23:59 <kakobrekla>	Ukto it doesnt matter what is it
Oct 09 17:24:02 <kakobrekla>	each sale is a buy
Oct 09 17:24:05 <kakobrekla>	and each buy is a sale
Oct 09 17:24:06 <TooTnBooT>	I sold all my S.Dice passthru shares and withdrew from GLBSE, so it worked out well actually.
Oct 09 17:24:08 <kakobrekla>	in effect
Oct 09 17:24:15 <kakobrekla>	only numbes matter
Oct 09 17:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	wd on that score lol
Oct 09 17:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla he's thinking in booktaking terms, but you're right its irrelevant.
Oct 09 17:25:02 <Ukto>	yeah, i am just talking display purposes
Oct 09 17:25:08 <mircea_popescu>	TooTnBooT so were you saying you were going to prove that any asset in glbse is better than mpex stuff or what ?
Oct 09 17:25:21 <TooTnBooT>	I don't know anything about mpex.
Oct 09 17:25:22 <kakobrekla>	Ukto depends what you are displaying then
Oct 09 17:25:44 <TooTnBooT>	You may be confusing me with someone else.  I was complaining about S.Dice.
Oct 09 17:25:57 <TooTnBooT>	I've never seen mpex.
Oct 09 17:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	...
Oct 09 17:26:58 <dub>	its THE bitcoin securities exchange dont you know
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Oct 09 17:27:11 <TooTnBooT>	dub - I guess I don't know.
Oct 09 17:27:17 <dub>	oh wait, theres that cryptostocks one
Oct 09 17:27:21 <TooTnBooT>	THE exchange I used is no more.
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Oct 09 17:30:40 <kakobrekla>	its in the friggin topic.
Oct 09 17:31:36 <kakobrekla>	meh, people.
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Oct 09 17:37:03 <rdponticelli>	kakobrekla: Nobody looks at the friggin topic...
Oct 09 17:37:10 <kakobrekla>	i know
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Oct 09 17:37:21 <kakobrekla>	people.
Oct 09 17:37:28 <rdponticelli>	I don't even have it enabled
Oct 09 17:38:15 <kakobrekla>	i come from a time and place where one got +b for not reading it
Oct 09 17:38:57 <rdponticelli>	Well, if you fix quassel, I promise I'll enable it again, and even read it
Oct 09 17:39:19 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1260129#msg1260129 i see this is going admirably well...
Oct 09 17:40:17 <kakobrekla>	i havent been following it closley enough
Oct 09 17:40:25 <kakobrekla>	why arent we getting payed yet again?
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Oct 09 17:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	because bitcoin.
Oct 09 17:41:16 <kakobrekla>	aha
Oct 09 17:41:18 <kakobrekla>	makes sense.
Oct 09 17:41:19 <jcpham>	dafuq
Oct 09 17:41:21 <kakobrekla>	ill just wait!
Oct 09 17:41:22 <kakobrekla>	:)
Oct 09 17:42:51 <rdponticelli>	Irreversible payments, remember?
Oct 09 17:42:52 <rdponticelli>	Ask bulanula
Oct 09 17:43:50 <jcpham>	magnets
Oct 09 17:45:01 <jurov>	today i asked deadterra about GSDPT but he got no information from glbse at all... and that one can be solved without moving any bitcoins
Oct 09 17:45:33 <jurov>	dunno why they're waiting
Oct 09 17:45:54 <rdponticelli>	But you would be asking nefario to stop counting coins to do something else entirely related...
Oct 09 17:46:03 <rdponticelli>	*unrelated
Oct 09 17:46:10 <rdponticelli>	That's not an option
Oct 09 17:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	someone was asking me about gsdpt earlier too. sad fact of the matter is, w/o actual shareholder lists there's jackshit anyone can do.
Oct 09 17:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2757 @ 0.00031137 = 0.8584 BTC [-]
Oct 09 17:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	and that faces serious problems because glbse never used gpg keys. and so...
Oct 09 17:47:17 <mircea_popescu>	fuckall knows.
Oct 09 17:47:31 <rdponticelli>	The tickets to pirate's island must be expensive...
Oct 09 17:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	at least we can estimate the expenses of taaki, strateman and the rest of the scammergroup
Oct 09 17:48:07 <mircea_popescu>	they need about 100k usd a year to keep going.
Oct 09 17:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	whether it comes from bitcoinica user funds, glbse user funds or w/e else, it's the rake,.
Oct 09 17:48:38 <rdponticelli>	So, how many bitcoinicas a year?
Oct 09 17:48:54 <mircea_popescu>	they got like 30k or so bitcoin there, right ? btc was about 5 ?
Oct 09 17:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	now they got like 8k or so here, btc is about 12.5
Oct 09 17:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	works out.
Oct 09 17:49:23 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, cool business
Oct 09 17:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	what exactly anyone would have to be thinking to deal with any of them in the future is beyond my mere human comprehension.
Oct 09 17:50:41 <rdponticelli>	BTW: Patrick, Amir and Donald aren't tagged, right?
Oct 09 17:51:00 <rdponticelli>	They'll have to try harder...
Oct 09 17:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	well atm neither is theymos, so.
Oct 09 17:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	far as i'm concerned they're tagged.
Oct 09 17:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated genjix
Oct 09 17:51:13 <gribble>	You rated user genjix on Fri Sep 28 02:51:20 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: there's that entire bitcoinica mess to be cleared..
Oct 09 17:51:50 <rdponticelli>	;;rated genjix
Oct 09 17:51:50 <gribble>	You rated user genjix on Sat Jul 14 10:35:57 2012, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Sorry, guys, but until the bitcoinica incident gets completely sorted out, IMHO you can't be trusted with a single satoshi more..
Oct 09 17:52:13 <rdponticelli>	I've been meaner than you...
Oct 09 17:52:29 <mircea_popescu>	and apparently much earlier
Oct 09 17:52:30 <rdponticelli>	That's not easy
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Oct 09 17:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	i only slapped him when he came in a week ago to "vouch" for scamfarion.
Oct 09 17:53:10 <rdponticelli>	It was after they emptied the mtgox account
Oct 09 17:53:18 <chmod755>	;;rated genjix
Oct 09 17:53:19 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user genjix
Oct 09 17:53:43 <rdponticelli>	They had delayed so much the process...
Oct 09 17:53:54 <rdponticelli>	And suddenly, that
Oct 09 17:54:13 <rdponticelli>	If it was not malice, it was deep incompetence
Oct 09 17:54:23 <rdponticelli>	It's a -10 anyway
Oct 09 17:54:27 <mircea_popescu>	im satisfied that they stole it.
Oct 09 17:55:26 <chmod755>	;;gettrust genjix
Oct 09 17:55:26 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user chmod755 to user genjix: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=chmod755&dest=genjix
Oct 09 17:55:36 <chmod755>	hm
Oct 09 17:55:41 <rdponticelli>	;;rated phantomciruit
Oct 09 17:55:41 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user phantomciruit
Oct 09 17:55:57 <rdponticelli>	;;rated phantomcircuit
Oct 09 17:55:57 <gribble>	You rated user phantomcircuit on Sat Jul 14 10:35:46 2012, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Sorry, guys, but until the bitcoinica incident gets completely sorted out, IMHO you can't be trusted with a single satoshi more..
Oct 09 17:56:22 <chmod755>	;;gettrust phantomcircuit
Oct 09 17:56:23 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user chmod755 to user phantomcircuit: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=chmod755&dest=phantomcircuit
Oct 09 17:56:26 <chmod755>	O.o
Oct 09 17:56:36 <jcpham>	rumor has it that chmod755 is satoshi
Oct 09 17:56:41 <jcpham>	the one and only
Oct 09 17:56:53 <chmod755>	jcpham, what?
Oct 09 17:57:02 <dub>	I can tell by the writing style and having seen quite a few satohsis in my time
Oct 09 17:57:04 <jcpham>	I thought you were satoshi nakamoto
Oct 09 17:57:13 <chmod755>	;;whois chmod755
Oct 09 17:57:15 <gribble>	chmod755~ (~chmod755@unaffiliated/chmod755) has been on server zelazny.freenode.net since 10:50 AM, October 09, 2012 (idle for 1 second) and is on #bitcoin-otc, #bitcoin-dev, #bitcoin, and #bitcoin-assets.
Oct 09 17:57:23 <chmod755>	;;seen satoshi
Oct 09 17:57:23 <gribble>	I have not seen satoshi.
Oct 09 17:57:29 <chmod755>	jcpham, i'm not
Oct 09 17:57:37 <jcpham>	that's fine
Oct 09 17:57:41 <mircea_popescu>	dub also photoshop am irite ?
Oct 09 17:57:46 <jcpham>	i'll talk with the rumor people then
Oct 09 17:57:58 <chmod755>	jcpham, which rumor people?
Oct 09 17:58:05 <jcpham>	the ones who rumor?
Oct 09 17:58:12 <chmod755>	WHERE?
Oct 09 17:58:20 <jcpham>	over there.
Oct 09 17:58:22 <jcpham>	you know
Oct 09 17:58:58 <jcpham>	I don't remember now who told me
Oct 09 17:59:25 <chmod755>	jcpham, MrTiggr? :d
Oct 09 17:59:31 <jcpham>	maybe
Oct 09 17:59:59 <jcpham>	i couldn't out my sources
Oct 09 18:00:00 <dub>	thats a point actually
Oct 09 18:00:17 <dub>	re: nefario, has anyone called the Bitcoin Police?
Oct 09 18:02:17 <chmod755>	dub, no
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Oct 09 18:06:14 <chmod755>	;;tz melbourne
Oct 09 18:06:14 <gribble>	Tue Oct 09 22:06:14 2012 UTC | 9:06am Wednesday (EST) - Time in Melbourne VIC, Australia
Oct 09 18:06:31 <chmod755>	dub, feel free to call the bitcoin police :p
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Oct 09 18:09:16 <jcpham>	me dials ;;911
Oct 09 18:12:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1275 @ 0.00031137 = 0.397 BTC [-]
Oct 09 18:12:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52651 @ 0.00031136 = 16.3934 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 18:20:51 <dub>	theres quite enough chronic masturbation in my life already
Oct 09 18:25:28 <Doffx>	I called the Sesame Street police, I have a feeling Big Bird and the crew will have just about the same effectiveness in the matter.
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Oct 09 18:33:40 <dub>	jeez, i mention bitcoin police and suddenly im getting a rectal exam
Oct 09 18:37:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00031136 = 0.1868 BTC [-]
Oct 09 18:38:44 <Doffx>	By Big bird No less.
Oct 09 18:39:17 <Doffx>	They dont call him Big Bird for nothing nudge nudge
Oct 09 18:39:53 <dub>	thats why Romney loves him
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Oct 09 19:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.10637201 = 1.0637 BTC [+]
Oct 09 19:02:56 <Diablo-D3>	[06:20:52] <dub> theres quite enough chronic masturbation in my life already
Oct 09 19:03:08 <Diablo-D3>	dub is a member of the GOP?
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Oct 09 19:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 48 @ 0.00316777 = 0.1521 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 19:51:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16057 @ 0.00031143 = 5.0006 BTC [+]
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Oct 09 20:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50811 @ 0.00031247 = 15.8769 BTC [+]
Oct 09 20:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20489 @ 0.00031136 = 6.3795 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 20:42:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5560 @ 0.00031136 = 1.7312 BTC [-]
Oct 09 20:42:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35998 @ 0.00031129 = 11.2058 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 20:50:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00339998 = 6.8 BTC [+]
Oct 09 20:51:17 <smickles>	aw, c'mon <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.10637201 = 1.0637 BTC [+], the p140t is a better deal, i'm sure
Oct 09 20:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol why ?
Oct 09 20:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	it dipped under 11 b4
Oct 09 20:55:14 <smickles>	;;calc 11-(.10637201*[ticker --last])
Oct 09 20:55:15 <gribble>	9.72908849892
Oct 09 20:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	nah that's not correct.
Oct 09 20:55:41 <smickles>	;;calc 14-(.25780139*[ticker --last])
Oct 09 20:55:41 <gribble>	10.9198405526
Oct 09 20:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	.py (11 - 9.72908849892)  / 9.72908849892 - 9.72908849892
Oct 09 20:55:56 <markac>	-9.59845843001
Oct 09 20:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	.py (11 - 9.72908849892)  / 9.72908849892 - 0.10637201
Oct 09 20:56:55 <markac>	0.0242580589136
Oct 09 20:57:03 <smickles>	the calc i did isn't the break even point?
Oct 09 20:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Oct 09 20:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	at the price you propose there's a 0.02xx btc profit
Oct 09 20:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	per contract. ie 20%
Oct 09 20:57:56 <smickles>	strike - premium isn't breakeven for puts?
Oct 09 20:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	strike - thenprice / thenprice
Oct 09 20:58:30 <mircea_popescu>	is then-value of puts
Oct 09 20:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	then you substract premium from that
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Oct 09 20:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	put110t is worth 10btc per contract if btc/usd = 1
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Oct 09 21:00:48 <kakobrekla>	;;seen usagi
Oct 09 21:00:49 <gribble>	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 17 hours, 47 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <usagi> We own 2000 shares.. should be good if glbse comes up :/
Oct 09 21:01:48 <kakobrekla>	no wonder is so quiet.
Oct 09 21:01:58 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 21:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	he owns "malicious criminal libel" in google you knwo.
Oct 09 21:02:20 <jcpham>	not quiet enough
Oct 09 21:02:31 <kakobrekla>	hm mp?
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Oct 09 21:03:37 <mircea_popescu>	.g "malicious criminal libel"
Oct 09 21:03:38 <markac>	mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112927.0
Oct 09 21:04:20 <kakobrekla>	a.
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Oct 09 21:06:27 <smickles>	;;calc (14-[ticker --last])/[ticker --last] - .2578139
Oct 09 21:06:28 <gribble>	-0.0862657828452
Oct 09 21:06:58 <smickles>	;;calc (11-[ticker --last])/[ticker --last] - .10637201
Oct 09 21:06:59 <gribble>	-0.18586991795
Oct 09 21:07:29 <smickles>	is that not a better deal on the 14?
Oct 09 21:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	smickles depends where it ends up going
Oct 09 21:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	always the time value of an option will be a larger part of its total value the closer the strike is to current price
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Oct 09 21:16:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.000312 = 1.1544 BTC [+]
Oct 09 21:16:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40202 @ 0.00031129 = 12.5145 BTC [-]
Oct 09 21:16:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24498 @ 0.00031122 = 7.6243 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 21:37:16 <rdponticelli>	lol, thanks for analizing so deeply my little trade, smickles and mircea_popescu
Oct 09 21:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 21:38:05 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/2g/3E/ACzC6Q1/hrm.png
Oct 09 21:38:07 <kakobrekla>	so
Oct 09 21:38:11 <kakobrekla>	these are sorted by date
Oct 09 21:38:16 <rdponticelli>	And, yes, the time value is why I tend to buy put of as low as a strike as possible
Oct 09 21:38:21 <kakobrekla>	how does phrausts rating make sense?
Oct 09 21:38:31 <rdponticelli>	Just as an insure
Oct 09 21:38:36 <kakobrekla>	(date is last change)
Oct 09 21:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla maybe ?
Oct 09 21:39:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;gettrust pirateat40
Oct 09 21:39:19 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user pirateat40: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 22 via 19 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=pirateat40
Oct 09 21:39:22 <kakobrekla>	maybe what
Oct 09 21:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it makes sese.
Oct 09 21:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	i could envisage situations in which it made sense.
Oct 09 21:40:27 <smickles>	heh, rdponticelli i just wanted you (well, i suppose it was you now) to buy some of my puts :p
Oct 09 21:41:02 <rdponticelli>	Do you sell puts?
Oct 09 21:41:25 <smickles>	rdponticelli: the 269 left on http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P140T
Oct 09 21:41:38 <rdponticelli>	Oh...
Oct 09 21:41:39 <rdponticelli>	lol
Oct 09 21:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2417 @ 0.00031259 = 0.7555 BTC [+]
Oct 09 21:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	smickles you need a newsletter for your brokerage customers :D
Oct 09 21:44:01 <smickles>	kakobrekla: maybe it was >1, but was lowered to 1 afterthe bad news
Oct 09 21:44:08 <rdponticelli>	I don't even use to look at orders books of puts of too high a strike
Oct 09 21:44:48 <rdponticelli>	As mircea said, almost all of it's value is time based
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Oct 09 21:53:42 <BitcoinBear>	claim process opened on glbse,com
Oct 09 21:53:54 <BitcoinBear>	log in to get your bitcoins
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Oct 09 21:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	o hey!
Oct 09 21:55:57 <smickles>	what?
Oct 09 21:56:11 <Azelphur>	oO, yay
Oct 09 21:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	seems so.
Oct 09 21:57:47 <Azelphur>	yea, it wants photo ID
Oct 09 21:57:49 <Azelphur>	so I'm fucked \o/
Oct 09 21:57:56 <smickles>	no way?
Oct 09 21:58:02 <Azelphur>	yes way
Oct 09 21:58:09 <smickles>	D:
Oct 09 21:58:12 <Azelphur>	To comply with money laundering regulations we must ask you to submit documents for proof of your address and identity.Picture of your IDPlease provide a clear picture of your photo ID. For France, Germany, Spain, and English speaking countries ID cards, Passports and drivers licences are accepted, for everywhere else only passports are accepted.
Oct 09 21:58:21 <dub>	oh hey, GLBSE has been upgradede, quite fast nao
Oct 09 21:58:35 <Azelphur>	not sure wtf I'm supposed to do, I don't have a passport or drivers license
Oct 09 21:58:58 <dub>	wat
Oct 09 21:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	ffs.
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Oct 09 21:59:18 <mircea_popescu>	well so at least now we know
Oct 09 21:59:24 <Azelphur>	yea
Oct 09 21:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol dud
Oct 09 21:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	dub*
Oct 09 21:59:38 <Azelphur>	shame nefario isn't here, I really need an alternative way of verifying
Oct 09 21:59:49 <Azelphur>	unless I go apply for a passport and come back in like 6 weeks
Oct 09 21:59:49 <Azelphur>	:/
Oct 09 21:59:55 <dub>	youy should get a passport and drive to britain
Oct 09 22:00:02 <smickles>	Azelphur: support@glbse.com
Oct 09 22:00:05 <dub>	to verify with him personally
Oct 09 22:00:09 <Azelphur>	dub: step 1) get a passport and drive to where I already am
Oct 09 22:00:23 <Azelphur>	smickles: good idea, I'll send him an email
Oct 09 22:00:40 <kakobrekla>	lol srsly
Oct 09 22:00:49 <kakobrekla>	i wont give my pass to nef for my 5 smickes shares
Oct 09 22:00:50 <smickles>	Azelphur: i might have his personal email, one sec
Oct 09 22:00:58 <JWU42>	well - as a verified asset issuer this is BS
Oct 09 22:01:02 <Azelphur>	smickles: fun
Oct 09 22:01:22 <JWU42>	already went through all this once - he doesn't need another copy of this that he can lose
Oct 09 22:01:39 <rdponticelli>	Fuck them
Oct 09 22:01:43 <dub>	feds need copies in triplicate
Oct 09 22:01:49 <JWU42>	haha
Oct 09 22:02:11 <rdponticelli>	I'll have to take a passport to recover my fucking assets?
Oct 09 22:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub should get a special hat./
Oct 09 22:02:25 <kakobrekla>	i wont do it.
Oct 09 22:02:40 <dub>	mircea_popescu: wai?
Oct 09 22:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	cause you're funnay.
Oct 09 22:03:04 <thestringpuller>	Who gets sent physical bills anymore? I have to call my tax commissioner to get proof of resident? Such an inconvenience...
Oct 09 22:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	anyone else got their heat runnign yet ?
Oct 09 22:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller so pull some strings.
Oct 09 22:03:42 <thestringpuller>	lol I don't think it's worth it. Cut da losses.
Oct 09 22:04:08 <kakobrekla>	yep
Oct 09 22:04:16 <kakobrekla>	i down like 5 btc
Oct 09 22:04:17 <thestringpuller>	Serves me right for trusting someone who codes a website with bootstrap.
Oct 09 22:04:19 <dub>	I'd like to cut something
Oct 09 22:04:26 <mircea_popescu>	<thestringpuller> Serves me right for trusting someone who codes a website with bootstrap. << this.
Oct 09 22:04:48 <thestringpuller>	They probably use mysql :P
Oct 09 22:05:01 <thestringpuller>	With all the money they were raking it shoulda gotten an oracle license
Oct 09 22:06:24 <kakobrekla>	;;rate nefario -10 scammer
Oct 09 22:06:25 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user nefario has been recorded.
Oct 09 22:06:38 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 09 22:06:43 <thestringpuller>	Poor nefairo
Oct 09 22:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;gettrust nefario
Oct 09 22:06:46 <thestringpuller>	Nefario*
Oct 09 22:06:46 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user nefario: Level 1: -1, Level 2: -4 via 6 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=nefario
Oct 09 22:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	i guess hisnew and legit exchange will hit the ground runnin
Oct 09 22:07:13 <smickles>	aw fuck
Oct 09 22:07:22 <smickles>	I just moved, i have no proof of address
Oct 09 22:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26463 @ 0.00031122 = 8.2358 BTC [-]
Oct 09 22:07:29 <thestringpuller>	After he goes through 4 years of paperwork
Oct 09 22:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53937 @ 0.00031122 = 16.7863 BTC [-]
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Oct 09 22:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller at an estimated cost of 8mn a year.
Oct 09 22:08:03 <kakobrekla>	;;rate nefario -10 rich scammer
Oct 09 22:08:03 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user nefario has changed from -10 to -10.
Oct 09 22:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	which he certainly has access to
Oct 09 22:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	</sarcasm>
Oct 09 22:08:30 <dub>	I read that as 'the estimated cost of a 9mm'
Oct 09 22:08:38 <dub>	and I though, now there is a solution!
Oct 09 22:08:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 22:08:57 <thestringpuller>	someone should invent a p2p dividend paying system
Oct 09 22:09:13 <thestringpuller>	called accounting 101 =P
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Oct 09 22:09:30 <[\\\]>	So whats to stop nefario from using all of these documents to commit identity theft?
Oct 09 22:09:34 <[\\\]>	he isn't licensed
Oct 09 22:09:37 <Azelphur>	I just sent this to nefario lol http://pastebin.com/dCxCs8qr
Oct 09 22:09:38 <[\\\]>	he doesn't have a personal bond
Oct 09 22:09:39 <dub>	he's an awesome dude?
Oct 09 22:09:45 <dub>	and wouldnt fuck us ever
Oct 09 22:09:59 <[\\\]>	lol
Oct 09 22:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol that'd be the end all. nefario takes off with some k btcs and sells everyone's ids on SR
Oct 09 22:10:07 <[\\\]>	exactly
Oct 09 22:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	then like... makes a video from puerto vallerta
Oct 09 22:10:35 <thestringpuller>	You can find his address if you put glbse.com into the networksolutions whois
Oct 09 22:10:48 <thestringpuller>	but I heard doxing is bad mmmkay
Oct 09 22:11:07 <Azelphur>	who.is is the best for DNS info
Oct 09 22:11:07 <knotwork>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117453.msg1260985#msg1260985
Oct 09 22:11:08 <Azelphur>	:P
Oct 09 22:11:15 <thestringpuller>	so if people's identity leaked I see him getting beat up maybe?
Oct 09 22:11:19 <[\\\]>	he's asking for the same info that I'd be required to present to get a replacement state id
Oct 09 22:11:28 <[\\\]>	he could get a government id in my name
Oct 09 22:11:37 <[\\\]>	and I'm supposed to just give it to him?
Oct 09 22:11:40 <[\\\]>	LOL
Oct 09 22:11:45 <thestringpuller>	and your first born child
Oct 09 22:12:13 <smickles>	jebus, even my lease is electronic
Oct 09 22:12:25 <[\\\]>	all of my utility bills are electronic
Oct 09 22:12:50 <smickles>	I haz no proof of address within nef's requirements
Oct 09 22:13:12 <[\\\]>	and let's face it, a picture of 'me' holding my name/date on a piece of paper could be photoshopped
Oct 09 22:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	NO ASS ET&C FOR YOU
Oct 09 22:13:17 <[\\\]>	this isn't 1998 anymore
Oct 09 22:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] you should totally photochop some
Oct 09 22:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	like, obama holding one
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Oct 09 22:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	we should have like a photochop contest
Oct 09 22:13:43 <[\\\]>	is it illegal to submit false docs to nefario?
Oct 09 22:13:45 <[\\\]>	:-x
Oct 09 22:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	it's illefarian
Oct 09 22:14:12 <grubles>	illefarian
Oct 09 22:14:14 <grubles>	im stealing that
Oct 09 22:14:16 <grubles>	thx
Oct 09 22:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	yw
Oct 09 22:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	rule 4 waiver hereby.
Oct 09 22:14:43 <[\\\]>	what's rule 4?
Oct 09 22:15:03 <grubles>	rule 4: give all ideas to grubles
Oct 09 22:15:08 <thestringpuller>	Lol, FoxConn goes on strike apple plummets 15%+
Oct 09 22:15:09 <[\\\]>	oh, right
Oct 09 22:15:11 <grubles>	step 2. profit
Oct 09 22:15:17 <grubles>	step 3. keep all profit
Oct 09 22:15:22 <thestringpuller>	a month for short selling
Oct 09 22:16:10 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: does make me wonder if I photoshopped a passport if it'd work
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Oct 09 22:16:14 <Azelphur>	baring in mind I don't actually have one
Oct 09 22:16:20 <[\\\]>	lol Azelphur
Oct 09 22:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	can't hurt anything.
Oct 09 22:16:30 <Azelphur>	xD
Oct 09 22:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	actually, chop a few wh8ile you're at it.
Oct 09 22:16:38 <Azelphur>	I sent him an email asking if there's any way I can alternatively auth for now, anyway
Oct 09 22:16:53 <[\\\]>	I would think auth'ing via 2fact is enough to prove I am me
Oct 09 22:16:55 <Azelphur>	I'm quite happy to auth (heck, my address is on my DNS whois, it's all obvious) xD
Oct 09 22:17:01 <[\\\]>	it was for 6 months or however long it was
Oct 09 22:18:34 <smickles>	well, i can confirm that you can't just skip the photo upload
Oct 09 22:18:39 <kakobrekla>	DNS record != passport copy
Oct 09 22:18:51 <Azelphur>	kakobrekla: never said it was XD
Oct 09 22:18:55 <thestringpuller>	"spread your cheeks and lift your sack"
Oct 09 22:19:02 <kakobrekla>	you act like it is.
Oct 09 22:19:10 <Azelphur>	no, I don't.
Oct 09 22:20:44 <grubles>	thestringpuller, that only applies if one is afro-american
Oct 09 22:20:46 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i'm sure he was just pointing out that he doesn't care if people know his addy
Oct 09 22:21:04 <Azelphur>	^ is what I was trying to do :p
Oct 09 22:21:22 <smickles>	btw, i don't either
Oct 09 22:21:25 <smickles>	mine is:
Oct 09 22:21:28 <smickles>	12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
Oct 09 22:21:32 *	Azelphur high fives
Oct 09 22:21:33 <Azelphur>	haha
Oct 09 22:21:37 <smickles>	o/
Oct 09 22:21:52 <[\\\]>	he can have a copy of my sensitive documents just as soon as I get a copy of his surety bond
Oct 09 22:23:08 <abracadabra>	sensitive documents?
Oct 09 22:23:09 <abracadabra>	-.-
Oct 09 22:23:14 <[\\\]>	yeah
Oct 09 22:23:20 <[\\\]>	copy of government id, utility bill
Oct 09 22:23:30 <[\\\]>	all the things required to get valid government id in my name
Oct 09 22:23:33 <[\\\]>	oh, ok
Oct 09 22:23:38 <[\\\]>	sure, steal my identity
Oct 09 22:23:44 <[\\\]>	first my coins, now my usd
Oct 09 22:23:48 <Diablo-D3>	....
Oct 09 22:23:54 <Diablo-D3>	[10:21:52] <[\\\]> he can have a copy of my sensitive documents just as soon as I get a copy of his surety bond
Oct 09 22:23:56 <Diablo-D3>	lawyerporn.
Oct 09 22:24:00 *	abracadabra applies for driver's license... First Name? \\ Last name? \\
Oct 09 22:24:03 <noagendamarket>	http://omgdroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/RageFace.jpg  My photo ID
Oct 09 22:24:26 <[\\\]>	lol
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Oct 09 22:25:21 <noagendamarket>	data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBhMSERUUExQWFRQVGBcaFxcYGBocHBwYGBgcHhwcGBwaHCYeHBkjGhwdHy8gIycpLCwsGB4xNTAqNSYrLCkBCQoKDgwOGg8PGiwlHCQqLCktLiwsLCwsLCwsLCksKSksLCwsLCwsLCwsKSwsLCkpLCkpLCksLCwsLCksKSwsKf/AABEIAK8BDgMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAcAAACAgMBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAFBgMEAQIHAAj/xABFEAACAQIDBgMEBgkCBQQDAAABAhEAAwQSIQUGEzFBUSJhcTJSgaEHI5Gx0fAUFUJicnOyweEWMyQ0Q5LSJVOiwoKT8f/EABoBAQEBAQEBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAACAQMEBQb/xAAxEQ
Oct 09 22:25:21 <noagendamarket>	ACAgEDAwIDBQkAAAAAAAAAAQIRAxIhMQQTQRRRkaGiBWFygbEVIlKCwdHh8PH/2gAMAwEAAhEDEQA/AOpYnbKqMljLkiFKREn3Y8IA1+PprQu37jasZP57UAtY8AwHYASB4RoByipLm1VUEm60D90V8VfacW/+H1p9E/AXYv0iso7dTFLw3ps/++f+0V7/AFGhYrx2ntlFdfXr2/T+5y9I/wDbGIue9ZUtEn+1LQ3mtxPHYgGCcg61Ku8KSBxmzEAgZB11p69Lx+g9IxiUMfT0r0NQLbe9S4PCm85Lk6WwQBmPQd/M0P3Z/TcXYF+7iGtZ9US2iABehJYEt8q+rhhLLi7rdL7/APB48iUZaRuKt+RWeG35FL+6208U1/EYfEBW4BTLdVcucPqJXl7Parm+e8X6HhLl0RniLYPLOeWnbqartSU
Oct 09 22:25:22 <noagendamarket>	9C3bItVYSZX6VquadYqhuzvGuLw9u6ObDxeTrow+3Wlr6TN5sTguE1h1AuZgQUDagTIP9qrHgnPJ2/JjaSsdwrV4zVbYV92sW2dszMqkmANWAOgHTWqW+W0LlnCXblpsropYGAw06EEedc1CTnove6K2q6CuQ/kVhgw9PT/NKG523cTisDcvXLg4hLhSEUBco006/GhW4u8uNx/GDXwht5Iy2kIObNzn0r0vpZ1J2v3SNa9jomRuhE1hg3lSzszFY21iWTE3Ld2yUYrcRAsMupDgcvDPlVDY29N7aOJdbDm1hrUSwUF3kkAgkEKNOUVHppbu1S8jUvYcvH5VuA3ekvbO89/Z+Iti83Gw1zkzAB0IInUABhBmIGlZ+kDem9hrVq9h7igOSCCgYEZZDDqDWx6abcUnzwNUfYczm8v715VY8vuNJ
Oct 09 22:25:27 <noagendamarket>	e2NqYu1gBiUxAZgiOQ9pIhgJiNZ1ojulvM+NwbXI4dwFkLASMwAOYA8wZ1o+mmo672ugpK+BkdW0rJRh1rlOxfpMxNvEBMaQbbAeIKAVnk0DmD1FN+9GLxP1Bwt8Ktx0tsCqsIfUOpI9dOtVk6SeOSi2t/IUosaINeFs9/lSH9IW8+JwX6PwbujyGzIpkqF8XLQmTpyp7wTsLa5mzGBLEAEn0GlcsmGUIKbezKTV1Rowby+dbKp8vhSlvBv6tjH2cP8AsHS6SORYDJHodT60bxuMyNBdxPYCK8fVzl00FOa2Z2wY1llSCBZqwC1Brm2EUEtdcAczlFU23rs/+9c1PPKsV81faSfCfyPY+jrkZiDXgTHOltt5rQbLxrmYfur0FY/1RZyzxrkAxyXnzq/2h9zM9J94w3JOjQR8vjRDD7cttKYkI
Oct 09 22:25:29 <[\\\]>	wtf
Oct 09 22:25:31 <smickles>	?
Oct 09 22:25:32 <noagendamarket>	QNQzCQTJ/Zy6QDEzSg28KZgvFuEmNIXkah2rjwEBzP7Q0IHUH8KqHXxc1F+TH00oxtf1M4YuSfGnM+73pY3z3jZHWxzmC5VZAnlqB8adMNsEGRmIgnp/mpLm7X7/wAq+Z0+PLCevRa/FR7suTHKNaq/I5hc28XlgPqrAEEqRmJ5QMsmW1jsKr43EXltrefLF0mAJLazqVC6CPvFdUTdqf2/kKk/0wPf+X+a+h38y4x/UeTt4fM/kcn2nthrRW1AJWGaASMzCYmOggHSmvdW3cuA4hyoZ5y5oERpyIkU0jdsSfEfs/zUq7rfvfL/A
Oct 09 22:25:34 <Diablo-D3>	this isnt css.
Oct 09 22:25:38 <noagendamarket>	fuck
Oct 09 22:25:39 <smickles>	noagendamarket: what are you doing?
Oct 09 22:25:40 <[\\\]>	he pasted an image in here
Oct 09 22:25:50 <[\\\]>	 data:image/jpeg;base64,/9
Oct 09 22:25:58 <smickles>	oh lol
Oct 09 22:26:00 <Diablo-D3>	I love data encoded urls in css, btw
Oct 09 22:26:04 <[\\\]>	quick, someone put it back together
Oct 09 22:26:08 <Diablo-D3>	saves a fuckton on uselessly tiny images
Oct 09 22:26:33 <noagendamarket>	http://i.imgur.com/0z0zp.gif
Oct 09 22:26:43 <Azelphur>	Word on the street is that when you actually give it your passport / drivers license it just throws 413 errors.
Oct 09 22:26:44 <kakobrekla>	yeah ill give nefario my pic, but its gonna be this one http://shrani.si/f/22/Pg/2vwHW4QN/94211314332323786455114n.jpg
Oct 09 22:26:50 <kakobrekla>	not fake.
Oct 09 22:26:54 <smickles>	lol
Oct 09 22:27:12 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 09 22:29:16 <[\\\]>	ahhhh, kiddie pr0n
Oct 09 22:29:21 <Azelphur>	the other fun part is that I'm planning on moving soonish
Oct 09 22:29:27 <Azelphur>	so, any info I provide now
Oct 09 22:29:30 <Azelphur>	will be invalid in <2 months
Oct 09 22:29:49 <noagendamarket>	I dont have any proof of address or even ID
Oct 09 22:30:00 <noagendamarket>	Im  a ghost :P
Oct 09 22:30:02 <Azelphur>	noagendamarket: welcome to the club
Oct 09 22:30:13 <Azelphur>	well I have some proof of address, but no photo id
Oct 09 22:30:13 <noagendamarket>	I have a PO box lol
Oct 09 22:30:23 <noagendamarket>	No fixed address
Oct 09 22:30:41 <noagendamarket>	and no utility bills :P
Oct 09 22:32:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16174 @ 0.00031122 = 5.0337 BTC [-]
Oct 09 22:32:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00031121 = 9.6786 BTC [-]
Oct 09 22:32:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24626 @ 0.00031115 = 7.6624 BTC [-]
Oct 09 22:33:51 <dub>	I live under a bridge
Oct 09 22:34:13 <dub>	how will I recover my DMC share now
Oct 09 22:34:49 <noagendamarket>	thats the point :(
Oct 09 22:35:00 <noagendamarket>	very few people will bother
Oct 09 22:35:09 <grubles>	dub, tithe at #bitcoin-church
Oct 09 22:35:25 <kakobrekla>	thats why i commented my rating rich scammer
Oct 09 22:35:31 <kakobrekla>	pirate is a poor scammer
Oct 09 22:35:45 <noagendamarket>	if he donates the leftover coins to the bitcoin foundation Ill be pissed lol
Oct 09 22:36:25 <smickles>	someone should liberate that db and wallet
Oct 09 22:36:49 <dub>	I was thinking
Oct 09 22:36:55 <dub>	thats actually not a bad plan
Oct 09 22:37:21 <smickles>	i don't think it would even be theft
Oct 09 22:37:29 <grubles>	dub, no Luke-Jr is not allowed
Oct 09 22:37:32 <mircea_popescu>	rtheft ?
Oct 09 22:37:56 <dub>	instead of gitmo/SEC holiday camp, nefario could have his data stolen the hacker benevolently returning everyones shit
Oct 09 22:38:00 <Luke-Jr>	grubles: you really want to recruit trolls?
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Oct 09 22:38:27 <smickles>	dub: ideally, yes. even taking a fee for services rendered would be better than this
Oct 09 22:38:45 <dub>	sounds like business plan
Oct 09 22:38:59 <smickles>	5% sounds fair to me
Oct 09 22:39:03 <dub>	a notquitedeadmans switch
Oct 09 22:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	what i want to know is
Oct 09 22:39:15 <smickles>	that's going to net them a fair amount of btc
Oct 09 22:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	what fucking money laundering would be going on with glbse ?
Oct 09 22:39:22 <mircea_popescu>	EVERYTHING THERE LIOST MONEY
Oct 09 22:39:31 <dub>	lol
Oct 09 22:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's moeny laundering or money shrinking ?
Oct 09 22:39:52 <grubles>	Luke-Jr, maybe...i like living life on the edge
Oct 09 22:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	glbse is that asshole laundromat that shrinks your load.
Oct 09 22:40:34 <noagendamarket>	it works if you issue mining turds
Oct 09 22:41:11 <smickles>	heh, what's the cupizz code?
Oct 09 22:41:18 <smickles>	EvanR: tanking
Oct 09 22:41:47 *	dub passes the hat to mircea_popescu 
Oct 09 22:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	smickles cusip you mean ?
Oct 09 22:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub thankee pardner
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Oct 09 22:46:31 <dub>	do issuers need to re-verify to get the info I wonder
Oct 09 22:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	they need to re-issue
Oct 09 22:47:50 <dub>	if I have no btc or shares in my account because I only issued an asset, why cant the email address for my account recieve shareholder data (assuming shareholders verify)?
Oct 09 22:47:58 <Ukto>	I cant login to my glbse account?
Oct 09 22:47:59 <Ukto>	whats up
Oct 09 22:48:00 <Ukto>	heh
Oct 09 22:57:06 <Ukto>	wow
Oct 09 22:57:18 <Ukto>	nefario is really going out of his way to try to kill things
Oct 09 22:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 783 @ 0.00031115 = 0.2436 BTC [-]
Oct 09 22:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	btw folks once you send your id stuff to nefario cc them to me too
Oct 09 22:58:16 <mircea_popescu>	who knows, maybe i need some id's sometime.
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Oct 09 23:03:02 <[\\\]>	I think nef should hire zhou
Oct 09 23:03:12 <[\\\]>	at least then we'd figure out who the hacker was in about 10 minutes
Oct 09 23:03:17 <[\\\]>	and then get 49%  of our coins back
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Oct 09 23:05:02 <dub>	dude this is cut and dried intersango process
Oct 09 23:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	i agree with my forespeakers.
Oct 09 23:05:35 <[\\\]>	didnt nef work for intersango?
Oct 09 23:05:58 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Oct 09 23:05:59 <dub>	he's certainly familiar to those scamming fucks IRL
Oct 09 23:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	they're a little group, that london failference was pretty much them and streetwalkers.
Oct 09 23:06:33 <rdponticelli>	UK has always been full of pirates
Oct 09 23:06:42 <dub>	theymos, phantom, gengix, nefario.. its a scammers anal chain
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Oct 09 23:08:39 <Ukto>	so this is funny. in nefario's speach here in this video http://youtu.be/vmPD_YSQ--k he talks about how you dont need to provide id for glbse.
Oct 09 23:08:40 <Ukto>	:P
Oct 09 23:08:42 <Ukto>	thats the advantage
Oct 09 23:08:51 <Ukto>	sounds like a lie
Oct 09 23:08:58 <dub>	no
Oct 09 23:09:04 <Ukto>	at roughly 4min in
Oct 09 23:09:15 <dub>	it sounds like like like like like like like like like a like lie
Oct 09 23:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 23:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ut-1Ofy2vI dub you remind me of this guy
Oct 09 23:10:51 <dub>	that video is one second too long to remind you of me
Oct 09 23:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 23:11:55 <Ukto>	how much more gouging is he requiring for issuers?
Oct 09 23:12:30 <smickles>	/item/7a9ac139d2 << lol
Oct 09 23:12:32 <pigeons>	what kind of id is he requiring?
Oct 09 23:12:44 <smickles>	pigeons: passport, drivers
Oct 09 23:12:45 <pigeons>	and then i guess he needs to "review" it?
Oct 09 23:12:48 <pigeons>	shit
Oct 09 23:12:54 <pigeons>	just give it all back and be done
Oct 09 23:13:12 <smickles>	pigeons: also a photo of a document proving address
Oct 09 23:13:23 <pigeons>	shoe on head too?
Oct 09 23:13:31 <smickles>	sort of
Oct 09 23:13:49 <smickles>	a photo of yourself with a paper signed "glbse" and your username
Oct 09 23:14:02 <smickles>	specifically a 'clear' photo
Oct 09 23:14:16 <pigeons>	that's unprecedented
Oct 09 23:14:17 <Ukto>	no writing "/b" on your hand in a photo?
Oct 09 23:14:59 <pigeons>	its not like the usernames and passwords wer eleaked and he needs to verify
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Oct 09 23:18:41 <toffoo>	so how exactly are the "assets" going to be returned to you?
Oct 09 23:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons : shoe on head, sharpie in pooper and stfu.
Oct 09 23:19:27 <pigeons>	personal delivery
Oct 09 23:20:31 <B0g4r7>	I ain't giving Nefario so much as a pic of my big middle finger.
Oct 09 23:20:54 <Ukto>	he's gonna make out like a bandit heh
Oct 09 23:21:06 <B0g4r7>	Funny you should use that term.
Oct 09 23:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 23:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 start a forum thread
Oct 09 23:21:22 <Ukto>	pun intended. dont worry
Oct 09 23:21:27 <mircea_popescu>	"Fuck you nefario. No ids. Cough up the lists"
Oct 09 23:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	if enough people sign... this won't go anywere in a DIFFERENT WAY from the way nefario was going to have it nowhere
Oct 09 23:22:08 <mircea_popescu>	which seems like... i dunno, a sort of win.
Oct 09 23:22:11 <Ukto>	"You said just a few weeks ago, the advantage of GBLSE is no AML requirements" *link to youtube*
Oct 09 23:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19337 @ 0.00031115 = 6.0167 BTC [-]
Oct 09 23:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00031106 = 3.1728 BTC [-]
Oct 09 23:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00031102 = 9.0818 BTC [-]
Oct 09 23:23:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13263 @ 0.00031087 = 4.1231 BTC [-]
Oct 09 23:24:21 <B0g4r7>	Ukto: Post it.
Oct 09 23:24:24 <B0g4r7>	in the thread
Oct 09 23:25:02 <Ukto>	[22:06] <Ukto> so this is funny. in nefario's speach here in this video http://youtu.be/vmPD_YSQ--k he talks about how you dont need to provide id for glbse. about 4min in
Oct 09 23:25:04 <Ukto>	go for it
Oct 09 23:25:07 <Ukto>	i dont touch forums
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Oct 09 23:27:53 <noagendamarket>	http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/GLBSE
Oct 09 23:28:40 <Ukto>	?
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Oct 09 23:31:49 <B0g4r7>	Nice domain.
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Oct 09 23:34:40 <B0g4r7>	Posted.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117539.msg1261229#msg1261229
Oct 09 23:40:53 <B0g4r7>	Does anyone else have the urge to slap this Rarity poster silly?
Oct 09 23:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	that's useless.
Oct 09 23:41:22 <mircea_popescu>	you need a new thread, and an actual ideea for people to gather round.
Oct 09 23:41:43 <B0g4r7>	I think that's more your specialty.
Oct 09 23:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 09 23:42:16 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im off. hold down the fort all!
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Oct 09 23:44:09 <Ukto>	as i said, at this point
Oct 09 23:44:17 <Ukto>	i think he hopes for few ppl to actually claim their accounts
Oct 09 23:44:44 <Ukto>	and take advantage of thsoe who say "fuck it"
Oct 09 23:44:57 <B0g4r7>	Surely.
Oct 09 23:45:08 <Ukto>	and get to make up for the money he possibly embezzled
Oct 09 23:45:10 <Ukto>	or is now going to
Oct 09 23:45:42 <Ukto>	I am waiting for him to say ppl have 30 days to claim
Oct 09 23:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27737 @ 0.00031087 = 8.6226 BTC [-]
Oct 09 23:48:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4163 @ 0.00031077 = 1.2937 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 00:02:01 <smickles>	lol, glbse.com peeps
Oct 10 00:02:38 <BTC-Mining>	so... what's up with that reverting back...
Oct 10 00:02:42 <smickles>	Update:we are currently unable to process account closures, and will inform our users when this service resumes.
Oct 10 00:02:58 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: we're boned
Oct 10 00:03:16 <smickles>	he may aswell just take the site offline
Oct 10 00:03:18 <smickles>	404
Oct 10 00:03:24 <jcpham>	410
Oct 10 00:03:29 <jcpham>	isn't 410 gone
Oct 10 00:03:34 <smickles>	ar, right
Oct 10 00:03:34 <jcpham>	no redirect
Oct 10 00:03:42 <jcpham>	410 is elite!
Oct 10 00:03:42 <smickles>	301 to example.com
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Oct 10 00:04:15 <BTC-Mining>	So... I guess Nefario just noticed taking personal docs like that also wasn't really legal or would not protect him at all.
Oct 10 00:04:46 <smickles>	i try not to guess why my cat stares at a plain white wall
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Oct 10 00:07:09 <BTC-Mining>	You know those scary movies where things appear on walls? That's why cats stare and meow at blank walls... they're communicating your fears and weaknesses to the world beyond so they can more efficiently get to you. There's many other facets to this odd business of scaring mortals.
Oct 10 00:07:32 <BTC-Mining>	I hear it's where the money is at, at least once you're dead.
Oct 10 00:09:28 <BTC-Mining>	Has usagi ever showed up since GLBSE... ?
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Oct 10 00:10:05 <[\\\]>	well, I just submitted my glbse docs
Oct 10 00:10:11 <[\\\]>	http://i.imgur.com/YkjfW.jpg
Oct 10 00:10:20 <B0g4r7>	If ever there were an example of epic fail, GLBSE/Nefario is it.
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Oct 10 00:13:05 <BTC-Mining>	Either he got scared about legality or he decided to pull a pirate. But why do that with an exchange which never holds more than a fraction of all the value...
Oct 10 00:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33037 @ 0.00031077 = 10.2669 BTC [-]
Oct 10 00:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7058 @ 0.00031065 = 2.1926 BTC [-]
Oct 10 00:14:06 <B0g4r7>	<Ukto> i think he hopes for few ppl to actually claim their accounts
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Oct 10 00:14:12 <Ukto>	yeah
Oct 10 00:14:37 <B0g4r7>	facking theif.
Oct 10 00:15:32 <B0g4r7>	"Want ur stuff back?  Trust us with even more sensitive shit."
Oct 10 00:15:52 <BTC-Mining>	Issuers already had AML documentation submitted, for some.
Oct 10 00:16:00 <[\\\]>	yeah, makes it even more fun
Oct 10 00:16:38 <B0g4r7>	A lot of ppl aren't going to have the 3 required articles too, even if they're dumb enough to trust.
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Oct 10 00:16:59 <BTC-Mining>	[00:10] <[\\\]> http://i.imgur.com/YkjfW.jpg
Oct 10 00:17:21 <[\\\]>	0:-)
Oct 10 00:18:00 <BTC-Mining>	arf, if he takes it... let's all eat our hat.
Oct 10 00:18:21 <[\\\]>	you've not seen the utility bill yet :p
Oct 10 00:18:33 *	[\\\] is just getting started
Oct 10 00:19:45 <jcpham>	yay
Oct 10 00:19:49 <jcpham>	let's see that
Oct 10 00:21:41 <Ukto>	[\\\]: ROFLOL
Oct 10 00:21:59 <BTC-Mining>	Well... my whole house just shaked...
Oct 10 00:22:04 <smickles>	anyone notice that "You will be able to get back your bitcoin, and if you want to reveal your username, email, and a bitcoin address to accept payments with, you can continue your relationship with the issuer of any assets you hold." != the requested info?
Oct 10 00:22:31 <BTC-Mining>	I wonder if it's going to collapse or if it was an earthquake...
Oct 10 00:22:58 <BTC-Mining>	smickles, the first thing asked is an email + BTC address + confirmation you want it shared with issuers.
Oct 10 00:23:08 <BTC-Mining>	Then it asks for AML docs
Oct 10 00:23:24 <B0g4r7>	I hope Nef sits on a cactus.
Oct 10 00:23:27 <smickles>	bait and switch!
Oct 10 00:23:49 <Ukto>	well
Oct 10 00:23:55 <Ukto>	nef. has never been known for customer service
Oct 10 00:24:03 <B0g4r7>	Or honesty.
Oct 10 00:24:04 <Ukto>	just doing what he wants
Oct 10 00:24:05 <B0g4r7>	Or competence.
Oct 10 00:24:38 <Ukto>	aanyone else notice the 'forgot password' link is gone ?
Oct 10 00:24:42 <Ukto>	no email recovery
Oct 10 00:24:48 <smickles>	oh noes
Oct 10 00:25:33 <B0g4r7>	Anyone wanna buy my claim?  I'll sell at 10% off face value.
Oct 10 00:25:43 <Ukto>	I think my account only had 1 btc in. he can have it for all hit strouble.
Oct 10 00:25:51 <B0g4r7>	Mine had 50.
Oct 10 00:26:18 <Ukto>	he needs a form for ppl to "surrender" their btc and share holdings to himi
Oct 10 00:26:19 <Ukto>	:P
Oct 10 00:26:36 <smickles>	the mpoe.etf shareholders who didn't sell back yet lost a collective >200btc
Oct 10 00:27:11 <smickles>	the s2cm shareholders lost about 1000 btc if we don't get shareholder info
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Oct 10 00:27:50 <B0g4r7>	Actually I'll wait until I hear ppl actually getting paid.
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Oct 10 00:28:25 <Bitcoinbear_>	why is it not a simple log in, have coins sent to specified address?
Oct 10 00:28:38 <noagendamarket>	because grand jury
Oct 10 00:29:13 <B0g4r7>	<member:Ukto> i think he hopes for few ppl to actually claim their accounts
Oct 10 00:30:03 <BTC-Mining>	Mine had over 300 bitcoins and over 1000 in assets.
Oct 10 00:30:11 <B0g4r7>	Even for ppl foolish enough to trust this shady fuck with their sensitive docs, lots of ppl aren't going to even have the 3 required articles.
Oct 10 00:30:22 <B0g4r7>	== Nef keeps the BTC.
Oct 10 00:30:26 <pigeons>	you can't even claim them if you wanted to, it was just a tease
Oct 10 00:30:29 <B0g4r7>	If he even pays out any in the first place.
Oct 10 00:31:00 <Ukto>	BTC-Mining: did nef even provide you with the shres/codes info ?
Oct 10 00:31:07 <B0g4r7>	Gox doesn't require this nonsense to withdraw BTC.
Oct 10 00:31:13 <BTC-Mining>	Nope
Oct 10 00:31:26 <BTC-Mining>	Gox requires it over a certain amount
Oct 10 00:31:27 <Ukto>	anyone here actually submit docs yet?
Oct 10 00:31:36 <Ukto>	I dont think anyones gonna trust him enough to do it. heh
Oct 10 00:31:47 <B0g4r7>	They do now?  I guess I never hit that threshold.
Oct 10 00:31:52 <BTC-Mining>	I did. I actually resubmitted the same as I did 6 months ago.
Oct 10 00:31:53 <B0g4r7>	Someone here did.
Oct 10 00:32:11 <BTC-Mining>	Gox always required that if you wanted to go over a certain limit.
Oct 10 00:32:17 <BTC-Mining>	Otherwise it's capped
Oct 10 00:32:19 <B0g4r7>	Do you know what limit?
Oct 10 00:32:30 <noagendamarket>	It needs more than I submitted before
Oct 10 00:32:33 <BTC-Mining>	I don't remember. Something like 200 BTC in withdrawal
Oct 10 00:32:36 <smickles>	4thousand per month?
Oct 10 00:32:46 <BTC-Mining>	Maybe
Oct 10 00:32:46 <B0g4r7>	I only need to get 50 from Nef.
Oct 10 00:32:50 <BTC-Mining>	It's on the website
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Oct 10 00:33:49 <B0g4r7>	If he actually pays out I'mma sell my claim.
Oct 10 00:33:56 <B0g4r7>	Screw giving that guy my dataz.
Oct 10 00:33:58 <Ukto>	i dont know about gox's limits anymore. since I met with mark personally @ his tokyo office, and gave htem a copy of my passport, I have an unlimited account heh
Oct 10 00:34:48 <B0g4r7>	That's a big IF, mind you.
Oct 10 00:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3505 @ 0.00031065 = 1.0888 BTC [-]
Oct 10 00:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13230 @ 0.00031052 = 4.1082 BTC [-]
Oct 10 00:39:38 <pigeons>	;;rate nefario -5 it makes me feel better
Oct 10 00:39:40 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -5 for user nefario has been recorded.
Oct 10 00:39:45 <B0g4r7>	I hope we're all sensible enough to stay the hell away from GLBSE 3.0, should it emerge.
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Oct 10 00:40:48 <pigeons>	of course. i only deal with professional outfits like litecoin global now
Oct 10 00:41:11 <Ukto>	oh, and btw, I really expect that if glbse was closing legitly, I woudl receive an email telling me to login, and claim my shit
Oct 10 00:41:21 <Ukto>	and not be all 'you will find out if you remember' ish
Oct 10 00:41:42 <B0g4r7>	Ain't nuthin legit about the outfit.
Oct 10 00:42:06 <B0g4r7>	Not with Nef running it unilaterally.
Oct 10 00:44:42 <BTC-Mining>	Yeah 3.9 earthquake
Oct 10 00:45:04 <BTC-Mining>	Guess it's not the building's foundation collapsing
Oct 10 00:49:43 <Ukto>	BTC-Mining: well.. that could be a side effect
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Oct 10 01:02:42 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, sometimes with the infrastructure... you'd think a collapsing building would do that
Oct 10 01:02:50 <BTC-Mining>	Except it was felt in a vast region
Oct 10 01:04:32 <BTC-Mining>	By the way, to quote someone on the forum "Incompetence is not a scam". Although most don't seem to see any difference between the two.
Oct 10 01:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00031052 = 1.1179 BTC [-]
Oct 10 01:08:36 <pigeons>	except its not incompentence keeping everyone from their coins, its a scam
Oct 10 01:09:24 <pigeons>	send them all back, send the accounting codes. then you're still incompentent, but maybe not quite a scam
Oct 10 01:10:01 <BTC-Mining>	Indeed.
Oct 10 01:10:39 <BTC-Mining>	So until we allow some time, why should we assume he's keeping the coin.
Oct 10 01:10:55 <pigeons>	because he is keeping the coin
Oct 10 01:11:11 <pigeons>	why can't he give them back now?
Oct 10 01:11:59 <BTC-Mining>	Why could he give them back now? He might legitly be trying to figure out how AML works.
Oct 10 01:12:18 <BTC-Mining>	I'm always in favor of waiting while sharpening the knives, just in case.
Oct 10 01:12:20 <pigeons>	what does AML have to do with things? he's not running an exchange. he's closed it
Oct 10 01:12:40 <pigeons>	he said he didn't need to follow aml just recently
Oct 10 01:12:55 <B0g4r7>	3 weeks ago at the conference.
Oct 10 01:13:08 <pigeons>	no one agreed to any aml, and also, no one is using glbse for "ML"
Oct 10 01:13:11 <BTC-Mining>	Closed or not, AML is still required for financial services when transfering value.
Oct 10 01:13:16 <jcpham>	pigeons you know how it goes
Oct 10 01:13:22 <jcpham>	say one thing but do another
Oct 10 01:13:25 <BTC-Mining>	He said so, but I'm pretty sure he was just misguided.
Oct 10 01:13:27 <jcpham>	classic misdirection
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Oct 10 01:14:01 <B0g4r7>	Just like the closure notice said nothing about this BS where theymos disclosed it right away on the forums.
Oct 10 01:14:04 <pigeons>	nefario even encouraged people to use glbse as an online wallet
Oct 10 01:14:13 <BTC-Mining>	Technically, AML + registration are almost 100% sure to be required.
Oct 10 01:14:25 <pigeons>	required by who? he's shutting down
Oct 10 01:14:37 <B0g4r7>	He's also shown himself to be untrustworthy.
Oct 10 01:14:43 <BTC-Mining>	The fact he's shutting down does not free you from any obligation!
Oct 10 01:14:48 <B0g4r7>	And we're expected to trust him with this data?
Oct 10 01:14:51 <jcpham>	who has shown themselves to be trustworthy
Oct 10 01:14:56 <dub>	BTC-Mining: thats not what he was saying at the conf last week
Oct 10 01:14:57 <jcpham>	really at this point
Oct 10 01:15:05 <B0g4r7>	Nef has.
Oct 10 01:15:05 <jcpham>	define trustworthy in terms of bitcoin
Oct 10 01:15:07 <pigeons>	BTC-Mining: he has an obligation to give the coins and accounting codes back. that's it.
Oct 10 01:15:30 <B0g4r7>	He broke the bylaws and acted unilaterally.
Oct 10 01:15:39 <B0g4r7>	In this and in other recent actions, like TYGRR>
Oct 10 01:15:53 <BTC-Mining>	That's not how laws work. Also GLBSE's bylaws might not even have been legal to start with.
Oct 10 01:15:57 <jcpham>	all words
Oct 10 01:16:04 <jcpham>	non sactioned, non binding
Oct 10 01:16:14 <BTC-Mining>	Nefario probably never consulted a good lawyer.
Oct 10 01:16:16 <jcpham>	bound by who and to what end
Oct 10 01:16:25 <B0g4r7>	I don't trust this guy one bit.
Oct 10 01:16:25 <pigeons>	of course he never consulted a good lawyer
Oct 10 01:16:30 <B0g4r7>	Especially to be competent.
Oct 10 01:16:37 <BTC-Mining>	Otherwise you might as well say that if a bank closes, it doesn't need to return any money because it's now closed!
Oct 10 01:16:41 <B0g4r7>	That's a real issue when handing over sensitive data.
Oct 10 01:16:55 <pigeons>	that's the opposite, i'm saying he needs to return the money cause its closed
Oct 10 01:17:08 <pigeons>	and yes, who would trust nefario with sensitive data now
Oct 10 01:17:26 <jcpham>	if he doesn't return the funds, he just another thief
Oct 10 01:17:35 <jcpham>	maybe someone is pulling his stsring
Oct 10 01:17:42 <jcpham>	will we ever know?
Oct 10 01:17:50 <BTC-Mining>	Even if he's closing, he still needs to have AML if only to reduce any legal threat.
Oct 10 01:17:55 <B0g4r7>	I'll know if I get my BTC back or not.
Oct 10 01:17:57 <BTC-Mining>	He might also just be a thief
Oct 10 01:18:26 <pigeons>	no you'r claiming he might not be a thief, he might be a thief and a snitch
Oct 10 01:18:45 <B0g4r7>	and incompetent.
Oct 10 01:19:13 <B0g4r7>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117539.msg1261183#msg1261183
Oct 10 01:19:15 <jcpham>	i wouldn't discredit a thief as incompetent
Oct 10 01:19:31 <BTC-Mining>	A snitch? How would snitching you for investing in illegitimate stuff harm you?
Oct 10 01:19:45 <pigeons>	i'd have given him a few days but already he said, no you just need email and password, then wait till later today meaning tomorrow, then give us a picture with a shoe on your head, then oops sorry wait till later
Oct 10 01:20:02 <B0g4r7>	It would harm you by placing your info on Santa's list of Bad Girls and Boys.
Oct 10 01:20:08 <pigeons>	read your own words BTC-Mining
Oct 10 01:20:33 <B0g4r7>	Just being on that list for whatever reason could potentially have profoundly negative consequences.
Oct 10 01:20:50 <B0g4r7>	To say nothing of the data being stolen.
Oct 10 01:20:56 <B0g4r7>	Again due to incompetence.
Oct 10 01:20:59 <noagendamarket>	Its worth 100btc not to be on the no fly list
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Oct 10 01:21:36 <BTC-Mining>	pigeons, it's not technically illegal to use money on an unregistered exchange.
Oct 10 01:21:36 <jcpham>	going to the media would be your best bet
Oct 10 01:21:46 <BTC-Mining>	It's not legitimate for the exchange.
Oct 10 01:21:51 <jcpham>	make the issue known you are federally fucked for no reason
Oct 10 01:21:53 <B0g4r7>	This is the media.
Oct 10 01:22:19 <jcpham>	no i'm saying if gub-ment were strong arming you
Oct 10 01:22:24 <BTC-Mining>	The law doesn't go after you for giving money to people.
Oct 10 01:22:36 <pigeons>	um it does
Oct 10 01:22:44 <B0g4r7>	I don't trust the law any more than I trust Nef.
Oct 10 01:22:47 <jcpham>	in this case it does
Oct 10 01:22:54 <jcpham>	laws are new and strict
Oct 10 01:22:55 <noagendamarket>	yes it does. If you give mponey to Iran lol
Oct 10 01:23:09 <BTC-Mining>	Well if you financed something illegal.
Oct 10 01:23:11 <pigeons>	or IBB ;)
Oct 10 01:23:16 <noagendamarket>	haha
Oct 10 01:23:17 <jcpham>	exactly
Oct 10 01:23:25 <pigeons>	or maybe a ponzi
Oct 10 01:23:29 <BTC-Mining>	But if you financed something legal but they weren't properly registered.
Oct 10 01:23:30 <jcpham>	its close enough to fall under an umbrella
Oct 10 01:23:43 <B0g4r7>	I don't trust the law to make any distinction.
Oct 10 01:23:44 <BTC-Mining>	Law doesn't usually go after you. It's pointless.
Oct 10 01:23:52 <jcpham>	ok whatever
Oct 10 01:24:00 <jcpham>	beauracracies don't waste money
Oct 10 01:24:02 <noagendamarket>	the law is an ass
Oct 10 01:24:17 <Ukto>	btw
Oct 10 01:24:29 <Ukto>	did nef. require AML id to get yoru TYGRR codes ?
Oct 10 01:24:30 <B0g4r7>	That law is gonna take all that info, put it in a big DB, and mark it all as Bad ppl.
Oct 10 01:24:43 <jcpham>	possibly B0g4r7
Oct 10 01:24:45 <noagendamarket>	My local government cant find its ass in a storm
Oct 10 01:24:49 <jcpham>	it is a legitimate concern
Oct 10 01:24:58 <pigeons>	that's not the point. the point is nefario has people's stuff and isn't giving it back.
Oct 10 01:25:17 <Ukto>	cause if he sent TYGRR shareholders their "codes" to claim their shares w/o ID, thats more fucked up
Oct 10 01:25:17 <jcpham>	and isn't communicating
Oct 10 01:25:20 <pigeons>	you can't even get it back if you give the shoe on head picture
Oct 10 01:25:21 <noagendamarket>	sure. I dont want it back if it comes with a free trip to gitmo
Oct 10 01:25:22 <jcpham>	a pattern emerges
Oct 10 01:25:33 <B0g4r7>	Sent the codes over in-the-clear SMTP too.
Oct 10 01:25:38 <B0g4r7>	Incompetence again.
Oct 10 01:25:43 <jcpham>	step 1. cease operations
Oct 10 01:25:50 <jcpham>	spet 2. provide no info
Oct 10 01:25:58 <pigeons>	setup 49% claim site
Oct 10 01:26:07 <noagendamarket>	GLBSe was listed on bitcoin consultancy for awhile lol
Oct 10 01:26:22 <jcpham>	step 5. oops the private keys were leaked in an off-site backup
Oct 10 01:26:27 <pigeons>	yeah as a project they helped consult for the coding of
Oct 10 01:26:33 <Diablo-D3>	...
Oct 10 01:26:40 <Diablo-D3>	someone summarize what is being discussed
Oct 10 01:26:45 <B0g4r7>	Nefario
Oct 10 01:26:46 <noagendamarket>	we are fucked
Oct 10 01:26:50 <BTC-Mining>	Ok, let's take ponzis for example. Often not registered and solliciting investment. Do they go after people who lost money and prosecute them? No. They usually claw back profits you made. And I would guess if they find you profited from it knowing it to be a ponzi and promoting it, they might prosecute you.
Oct 10 01:26:51 <pigeons>	same thing we discuss everyday
Oct 10 01:26:58 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: how to take over the world?
Oct 10 01:26:59 <pigeons>	BTC-Mining: you're on ignore
Oct 10 01:27:00 <jcpham>	how to take over the world
Oct 10 01:27:03 <jcpham>	!
Oct 10 01:27:20 <jcpham>	jeez animaniacs was awesome
Oct 10 01:27:30 <noagendamarket>	pinky and the brain ftw
Oct 10 01:27:52 <B0g4r7>	Diablo: http://i.imgur.com/CiDfd.png
Oct 10 01:27:56 <Diablo-D3>	animaniacs is an exercise in how to get shit past the censors
Oct 10 01:28:04 <B0g4r7>	This is in order to claim your assets.
Oct 10 01:28:16 <Diablo-D3>	are you shitting me?
Oct 10 01:28:19 <B0g4r7>	I wish.
Oct 10 01:28:20 <noagendamarket>	no
Oct 10 01:28:25 <jcpham>	actually nothing is in order
Oct 10 01:28:29 <Diablo-D3>	bwahhahaha
Oct 10 01:28:30 <Diablo-D3>	oh man
Oct 10 01:28:32 <jcpham>	because claims aren't being processed
Oct 10 01:28:36 <B0g4r7>	That was there.  Now the site's down again.
Oct 10 01:28:37 <jcpham>	#shoehead is old news
Oct 10 01:28:48 <Diablo-D3>	this is the sound of me doing rm -rf ~/dmc
Oct 10 01:29:16 <BTC-Mining>	Ok, so somehow anyone taking ID is a snitch going to report you to the government for existing, which is illegal like everything. Better stay low profile...
Oct 10 01:29:21 <pigeons>	yeah i love those anti-money laundering regulations that say please take a picture of yourself holding a piece of paper that says GLBT
Oct 10 01:29:29 <BTC-Mining>	What's up with that?
Oct 10 01:29:46 <B0g4r7>	You tell me.
Oct 10 01:30:03 <BTC-Mining>	Not saying it's a good idea to give your ID + docs.
Oct 10 01:30:13 <B0g4r7>	I think you summed it nicely, sans the sarcasm.
Oct 10 01:30:39 <BTC-Mining>	I just don't understand why everyone thinks giving their ID will have the feds knocking on their door or something.
Oct 10 01:30:45 <noagendamarket>	Its for promotional material for the cia
Oct 10 01:30:53 <B0g4r7>	Just getting on this list is Bad News.
Oct 10 01:31:23 <B0g4r7>	Maybe you trust your govt.  I pity you if you do.
Oct 10 01:31:28 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZujf5zxw58
Oct 10 01:31:30 <Diablo-D3>	THE FUCK
Oct 10 01:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00031124 = 1.1827 BTC [+]
Oct 10 01:31:35 <Diablo-D3>	rimmer doing ALL the voices
Oct 10 01:31:42 <Diablo-D3>	mymindisfulloffuck.jpg
Oct 10 01:32:40 <BTC-Mining>	Ok... so giving out your ID to anyone might get the feds knocking on your door, so don't give it? If they discover you exist, they'll come arrest you? I'm pretty sure they already know you exist...
Oct 10 01:32:50 <Diablo-D3>	BTC-Mining: dude
Oct 10 01:32:53 <Diablo-D3>	I dont even know if I exist
Oct 10 01:33:11 <B0g4r7>	This isn't "anyone".
Oct 10 01:33:48 <B0g4r7>	This is a guy who is definitely going to be handing it right over to the .govs, who are sure to already be casting a mighty suspicious gaze its way.
Oct 10 01:33:57 <B0g4r7>	Due to its source.
Oct 10 01:34:13 <B0g4r7>	And there's of course him hetting h4xxed and the data stolen.
Oct 10 01:34:34 <noagendamarket>	Im more cobncerned with that
Oct 10 01:34:37 <BTC-Mining>	Aye. It might. Now you tell me why the government would then knock at your door.
Oct 10 01:35:38 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, misuse of data/data getting stolen is more concerning.
Oct 10 01:35:40 <BTC-Mining>	Not the government.
Oct 10 01:35:45 <B0g4r7>	They may not knock, but the next time I'm going through an airport or dealing with the long arm of the .govs in some other way, their computer's gonna beep at me differently.
Oct 10 01:35:51 <B0g4r7>	Applying for a loan.
Oct 10 01:35:58 <B0g4r7>	REnewing my license at the DMV.
Oct 10 01:36:01 <B0g4r7>	etc.
Oct 10 01:36:15 <B0g4r7>	Being on The List == Bad News.
Oct 10 01:36:17 <Diablo-D3>	I like my government like I like gay men... no where near my ass.
Oct 10 01:36:18 <pigeons>	your photo holding the claim sign is your new license picture
Oct 10 01:36:26 <B0g4r7>	lol
Oct 10 01:36:56 <pigeons>	Diablo-D3 is now in a databse of GLBT
Oct 10 01:37:16 <pigeons>	not that there's anything wrong with it, i just think its funny
Oct 10 01:37:59 <B0g4r7>	Looks like I'mm be forfeiting my 50 BTC.
Oct 10 01:38:14 <B0g4r7>	Actually I'm gonna try and sell it to someone less worried about this stuff.
Oct 10 01:38:24 <B0g4r7>	Once (if) it's clear he is actually paying.
Oct 10 01:38:54 <BTC-Mining>	[01:35] <B0g4r7> They may not knock, but the next time I'm going through an airport or dealing with the long arm of the .govs in some other way, their computer's gonna beep at me differently.
Oct 10 01:39:03 <BTC-Mining>	I'd be willing to bet against that.
Oct 10 01:39:09 <B0g4r7>	I wouldn't.
Oct 10 01:39:13 <B0g4r7>	But feel free.
Oct 10 01:39:20 <noagendamarket>	oh hai i funded IBB and sent bitcoins to Iran
Oct 10 01:39:41 <B0g4r7>	The odds may be long, but the cost of being wrong is high.
Oct 10 01:40:05 <BTC-Mining>	[01:39] <B0g4r7> The odds may be long, but the cost of being wrong is high.
Oct 10 01:40:21 <BTC-Mining>	Well since it's a double or nothing, if the odds are long, seems like a good bet to me
Oct 10 01:40:32 <B0g4r7>	You wanna buy my claim then?
Oct 10 01:40:49 <B0g4r7>	I'll get back with you if it turns out he's paying.
Oct 10 01:40:59 <noagendamarket>	;;BUY 1 FAKE ID 10btc  lol
Oct 10 01:41:00 <gribble>	Error: 'ID' is not a valid price input.
Oct 10 01:41:31 <BTC-Mining>	No. If I was really paranoid, I'd get an ID and then get a photo + statement photoshopped.
Oct 10 01:41:54 <B0g4r7>	That's likely a crime in itself.
Oct 10 01:42:02 <BTC-Mining>	Yes.
Oct 10 01:42:34 <B0g4r7>	So far I've committed none in all of this.  I;m not eager to start.
Oct 10 01:43:11 <BTC-Mining>	Which is why I don't use TOR and tend to just give my ID. Doesn't ever run me into troubles.
Oct 10 01:43:19 <noagendamarket>	Its likely illegal to collect documents without a privacy policy in place
Oct 10 01:43:40 <B0g4r7>	probably.
Oct 10 01:43:47 <B0g4r7>	Like the post a few pages up mentioned.
Oct 10 01:44:08 <BTC-Mining>	Aye... if GLBSE claim process was closed for any actual reason, I would guess it's that one.
Oct 10 01:44:17 <BTC-Mining>	@noagendamarket
Oct 10 01:44:36 <B0g4r7>	As one poster so succinctly put it "what a fuster cluck"
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Oct 10 01:47:41 <BTC-Mining>	Aye. Well if I was in Bitcoin's for it's privacy and was overall against governments and using TOR, the fact giving a fake ID is illegal to get my bitcoins back to my anonymous address would probably not bother me at all.
Oct 10 01:48:51 <Diablo-D3>	night all
Oct 10 01:48:57 <B0g4r7>	There's too many links already to go that route for me.
Oct 10 01:49:01 <BTC-Mining>	Night Diablo
Oct 10 01:49:10 <B0g4r7>	glbse username == forum username, etc.
Oct 10 01:50:01 <BTC-Mining>	Then selling your claim... you could then be claimed to have used a fake ID to claim account's content. Prove you didn't receive your account's content...
Oct 10 01:50:41 <BTC-Mining>	I suppose everyone could wait to see if people get paid out and their info sent to issuer.
Oct 10 01:50:59 <BTC-Mining>	and then consider giving their actual ID
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Oct 10 01:57:52 <BTC-Mining>	For an anonymous exchange like GLBSE, either the owner should know and accept the risks, or it should be decentralized.
Oct 10 01:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00031124 = 8.777 BTC [+]
Oct 10 02:00:13 <B0g4r7>	know, accept, and DISCLOSE
Oct 10 02:00:48 <BTC-Mining>	I was concerned Nefario didn't ackowledge that
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Oct 10 02:01:15 <BTC-Mining>	Other than that, I considered him honest, albeit clueless.
Oct 10 02:02:40 <B0g4r7>	Theymos told us from the start of the shutdown that AML was coming.
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Oct 10 02:03:15 <BTC-Mining>	Indeed. From what he heard meeting all the owners and what Nefario told them
Oct 10 02:03:24 <B0g4r7>	Nef, on the other hand, put that notice up on the site strongly implying that "your username, email, and a bitcoin address" would be all you'd need to claim.
Oct 10 02:05:43 <BTC-Mining>	I think Nefario would have good reasons to believe he incurs legal risks running GLBSE. I don't think issuers would have however.
Oct 10 02:06:48 <B0g4r7>	If that risk threatens the site, it should be disclosed to all who hold a stake in it.
Oct 10 02:06:53 <B0g4r7>	Which is pretty much all users.
Oct 10 02:07:08 <noagendamarket>	At least he never listed anyn pot farms lol
Oct 10 02:07:12 <B0g4r7>	Should have been.
Oct 10 02:07:31 <BTC-Mining>	He was unregistered. And helped fund quite a few scams.
Oct 10 02:07:49 <B0g4r7>	What do you mean by helped fund?
Oct 10 02:08:01 <B0g4r7>	Just running the site that facilitated their funding by victims?
Oct 10 02:08:12 <BTC-Mining>	I wasn't expecting it to close so soon but was expecting Nefario would eventually run into some legal issues.
Oct 10 02:08:15 <noagendamarket>	I doubt he actually held shares in anything :P
Oct 10 02:08:29 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, just running the site that facilitated it.
Oct 10 02:08:36 <EskimoBob>	I personally think that this whole AML, SEC,FSA,ABS,CDE etc is just FUD and nothing else. If there is/was investigation, it's a public record. If you are in UK. spend that 20 min and find out.
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Oct 10 02:09:09 <BTC-Mining>	He might not have conned those funds directly, but allowing it without respecting regulations and taking ID opens him to liabilities.
Oct 10 02:09:40 <BTC-Mining>	I don't think there's any investigation
Oct 10 02:09:47 <EskimoBob>	GLBSE  was trading "playing cards" - no cache involved
Oct 10 02:10:04 <noagendamarket>	I thought it was a game
Oct 10 02:10:15 <BTC-Mining>	GLBSE was trading unregistered securities.
Oct 10 02:10:23 <EskimoBob>	this is just one big bull shit and a nice scam to fuck everyone once more.
Oct 10 02:10:35 <BTC-Mining>	I think Nefario is either a thief or got scared of legal liabilities.
Oct 10 02:10:50 <BTC-Mining>	Either way it harmed everyone...
Oct 10 02:11:14 <EskimoBob>	and he walked away with what? 3K? 8K BTC?
Oct 10 02:11:42 <B0g4r7>	We'll see if he pays anything out, but if no, 6k-8k
Oct 10 02:12:01 <EskimoBob>	the whole GLBSE gang is involved and all this crap they spin in forum is borderline retarded
Oct 10 02:12:07 <B0g4r7>	+ another 900 or so if he ends up with what theymos sent ofer to CHS.
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Oct 10 02:13:25 <noagendamarket>	I doubt CHS will hand it over to Nefario
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Oct 10 02:13:39 <noagendamarket>	CHM rather
Oct 10 02:13:41 <B0g4r7>	I hope not, but I don't really know him so I couldn't guess.
Oct 10 02:14:12 <EskimoBob>	and all those armchair lawyers in tinfoil hats, who are yapping in the forum can really go and fuck themselves to death
Oct 10 02:14:41 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 10 02:15:04 <B0g4r7>	Rarity really rubs me the wrong way.
Oct 10 02:15:14 <EskimoBob>	Trendon was a thieve, nefario, theymos, etc etc are all the same -  liars and thieves
Oct 10 02:15:16 <noagendamarket>	Rarity is a goon
Oct 10 02:15:17 <B0g4r7>	Successful troll is successful I suppose.
Oct 10 02:15:29 <BTC-Mining>	[02:12] <EskimoBob> the whole GLBSE gang is involved
Oct 10 02:15:38 <BTC-Mining>	You would be hard pressed to prove that.
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Oct 10 02:15:47 <EskimoBob>	most "fund managers" and miners took off too and you can forget your shares or divs for good.
Oct 10 02:16:07 <BTC-Mining>	Usagi seems to have took off...
Oct 10 02:16:10 <B0g4r7>	Well, were those funds real to begin with?
Oct 10 02:16:17 <B0g4r7>	I'll bet ASICMINER holds up.
Oct 10 02:16:19 <EskimoBob>	"You would be hard pressed to prove that. " - read the bull shit in forums :) they are liars
Oct 10 02:16:23 <B0g4r7>	If anyone does.
Oct 10 02:16:47 <B0g4r7>	I've been reading the forums like a nut.  I've not seen what you see yet.
Oct 10 02:17:02 <EskimoBob>	if they do not get their shit ready first. they are gone too. China... who can find them there? You?
Oct 10 02:17:21 <EskimoBob>	Trendon walked with what? 5mil USD? Did anyone look for him? Hell no
Oct 10 02:17:41 <EskimoBob>	gone
Oct 10 02:17:44 <Eisenhower34>	"we are currently unable to process account closures, and will inform our users when this service resumes" so this "we are coming back" is nonsense?
Oct 10 02:17:58 <BTC-Mining>	I read it. They might be lying. But really, how does claiming you know make you any different then would be lawyers or defensors who make baseless claims?
Oct 10 02:18:04 <EskimoBob>	Same shit that Trendon pulled
Oct 10 02:18:33 <BTC-Mining>	That's the thing. They might. Or they might not. No one has the truth.
Oct 10 02:18:45 <BTC-Mining>	and that is really concerning.
Oct 10 02:19:15 <EskimoBob>	BTC-Mining: this is my opinion, nothing else and it's based on what I read and see in this fucked up community
Oct 10 02:19:30 <BTC-Mining>	Ah, fine then.
Oct 10 02:19:46 <BTC-Mining>	If it's just your opinion, I'm fine with that.
Oct 10 02:20:47 <EskimoBob>	so your or anyone else blaa blaa are facts? No, those are also opinions but different or similar.
Oct 10 02:21:00 <noagendamarket>	This is what happens when there is no actual disincentive to running away
Oct 10 02:21:13 <BTC-Mining>	No. I'm not claiming that.
Oct 10 02:21:21 <EskimoBob>	some fukers present their crap like it's a fact :) , it's not.
Oct 10 02:21:40 <BTC-Mining>	It just sounded like you were presenting yours as facts.
Oct 10 02:22:03 <noagendamarket>	How many people do fucked up shit when no one is watching ?
Oct 10 02:22:14 <EskimoBob>	glbse has NOT technical reason to be closed only for getting shit sorted out (no trading)
Oct 10 02:22:19 <BTC-Mining>	I try to be careful to include words like "I think, might, maybe, I believe, etc."
Oct 10 02:22:20 <EskimoBob>	NOT = NO
Oct 10 02:22:40 <BTC-Mining>	When I'm proposing something
Oct 10 02:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1570 @ 0.00031052 = 0.4875 BTC [-]
Oct 10 02:23:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10430 @ 0.00031047 = 3.2382 BTC [-]
Oct 10 02:24:10 <EskimoBob>	you see, I do not beat around the bush too long and tell straight out, what I think. Soft pasty armchair warriors in this forum hate that and start screaming "troll"  - because truth is harsh and hurts :)
Oct 10 02:24:56 <BTC-Mining>	But I like being in an armchair...
Oct 10 02:26:04 <BTC-Mining>	I also don't call people troll, even when they make unproven claims. I might object however that they presented their proposition as facts.
Oct 10 02:26:31 <BTC-Mining>	It might be very probable that the claim is true. It might also help people not get frauded if the claim ends up being true.
Oct 10 02:26:34 <B0g4r7>	http://bitcoinmagazine.net/intersango-shuts-down-usd-trade/
Oct 10 02:26:51 <BTC-Mining>	But it mostly stirs more trolling and panic.
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Oct 10 02:28:03 <noagendamarket>	http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/virtual-world-cashing-in-on-currency/  whats gouing to happen when one of the major faces of bitcoin gets arrested for securities fraud ?
Oct 10 02:28:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i have been trying to tell from the forum but cant for sure, to get the btc out of glbse the aml is just for asset issures or for everyone?  thanks
Oct 10 02:29:04 <B0g4r7>	Seems to be for everyone Goat.
Oct 10 02:29:14 <Chaang-Noi>	wow
Oct 10 02:29:37 <Chaang-Noi>	well good play for nefario, this way he gets to keep a large percent of all assets/btc
Oct 10 02:29:43 <B0g4r7>	Indeed.
Oct 10 02:30:00 <B0g4r7>	Assuming he even pays out any at all.
Oct 10 02:30:02 <Chaang-Noi>	im looking into that legal stuff as well.
Oct 10 02:30:41 <noagendamarket>	nothing will happen :P
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Oct 10 02:31:07 <B0g4r7>	It may not be legal for him to even collect the data.
Oct 10 02:31:14 <Chaang-Noi>	did nefario demand shoe on head photos?
Oct 10 02:31:32 <noagendamarket>	yes
Oct 10 02:31:42 <B0g4r7>	http://i.imgur.com/YkjfW.jpg
Oct 10 02:32:16 <noagendamarket>	bahahah
Oct 10 02:32:18 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Oct 10 02:32:21 <noagendamarket>	http://imageshack.us/a/img703/8031/81703418.png
Oct 10 02:32:48 <BTC-Mining>	There's no actal demand for a shoe on head... just a recent photo with GLBSE username and date written on a paper
Oct 10 02:33:00 <BTC-Mining>	Still, pretty similar
Oct 10 02:33:02 <Chaang-Noi>	so shoe is optional i guess
Oct 10 02:33:07 <B0g4r7>	May as well be.
Oct 10 02:33:17 <BTC-Mining>	Shoe is if you want to mock the situation.
Oct 10 02:33:31 <Chaang-Noi>	glad my account was delisted... will save me from sending him a photo oh my ball sack
Oct 10 02:33:46 <noagendamarket>	heh
Oct 10 02:33:59 <BTC-Mining>	eh, like someone said on forum
Oct 10 02:34:03 <BTC-Mining>	"How are they going to verify if it is really  a picture of my balls or someone else's?"
Oct 10 02:34:04 <Chaang-Noi>	but i guess i wont be getting the rest of my btc assets, lol
Oct 10 02:34:11 <BTC-Mining>	It's a very valid question.
Oct 10 02:34:37 <noagendamarket>	I dont even know if its balls or a turkey neck lol
Oct 10 02:35:16 <BTC-Mining>	If Nefario actually pays out but many don't claim their assets... I stand to win big times.
Oct 10 02:36:29 <B0g4r7>	And if doesn't pay out, the same?
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Oct 10 02:37:18 <B0g4r7>	I think a lot of issuers may find themselves in that situation.
Oct 10 02:37:48 <BTC-Mining>	If he doesn't get the info out, I win.
Oct 10 02:38:11 <B0g4r7>	And even if he does, many won't claim, so you still win almost as big.
Oct 10 02:38:35 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario will just claim most of the unclaimed :)
Oct 10 02:38:42 <BTC-Mining>	I lose ~1500 BTC in personal assets and end up with over 2500 BTC people gave me.
Oct 10 02:38:46 <B0g4r7>	Now you're thinkin'
Oct 10 02:38:51 <BTC-Mining>	If he doesn't pay.
Oct 10 02:39:10 <B0g4r7>	Take the BTC and the shares.
Oct 10 02:39:11 <BTC-Mining>	If he does and most don't claim...
Oct 10 02:39:25 <BTC-Mining>	Well really, it's completly undeserved money.
Oct 10 02:39:43 <B0g4r7>	That may be, but what're you gonna do?
Oct 10 02:39:54 <B0g4r7>	I see no easy solution.
Oct 10 02:40:01 <BTC-Mining>	I don't see either.
Oct 10 02:40:16 <B0g4r7>	Short of prying the db out of Nef's clutches.
Oct 10 02:40:26 <BTC-Mining>	I end up with money which is not mine, but with no trace/proof of who gave it to me.
Oct 10 02:40:57 <BTC-Mining>	So anyone could claim it but no one could prove it.
Oct 10 02:41:09 <B0g4r7>	Yup.
Oct 10 02:41:17 <B0g4r7>	Only nef holds the keys to putting it together.
Oct 10 02:41:58 <BTC-Mining>	At this point it seems just about as good if someones hacks the database, assuming it can be recovered.
Oct 10 02:42:10 <B0g4r7>	Agreed.  I was thinking that earlier.
Oct 10 02:42:26 <B0g4r7>	glbse.com seems to have TCP 80, 443, and 8080 open.
Oct 10 02:45:19 <B0g4r7>	Or if the other glbse shareholders can somehow manage to obtain it and release it.
Oct 10 02:45:26 <B0g4r7>	If indeed they're not all in on it.
Oct 10 02:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00031047 = 8.1033 BTC [-]
Oct 10 02:49:10 <B0g4r7>	BTW, Nef's a douche for saying "cypherspace".
Oct 10 02:53:43 <B0g4r7>	https://glbse.com/404
Oct 10 02:53:45 <B0g4r7>	http://nginx.org/en/security_advisories.html
Oct 10 02:53:56 <B0g4r7>	Looks like h4x are a distinct possibility.
Oct 10 02:54:05 <B0g4r7>	Another reason we shouldn't trust him with our dataz.
Oct 10 02:56:32 <BTC-Mining>	Erhm, your last 5 statements, what are you talking about?
Oct 10 02:57:15 <B0g4r7>	I'm saying that glbse.com looks quite hackable.
Oct 10 02:57:36 <B0g4r7>	Look at the version of nginx it's running, and then look at the vulnerability list.
Oct 10 02:57:52 <B0g4r7>	Quite a few major ones seem to affect version.
Oct 10 02:58:21 <B0g4r7>	Yet we're supposed to submit our identity docs to this very web server and trust that they'll be safe.
Oct 10 02:58:31 <B0g4r7>	affect that version
Oct 10 02:59:39 <B0g4r7>	"A vulnerability in the nginx web server may allow remote attackers to execute arbitrary code on an affected system."
Oct 10 02:59:43 <B0g4r7>	Complete pwnage..
Oct 10 02:59:57 <B0g4r7>	Just waiting for someone to come in right now and grab that db.
Oct 10 03:00:16 <B0g4r7>	And/or pplz submitted identity data.
Oct 10 03:00:20 <BTC-Mining>	Pretty much 100.1% of software has vulnerabilities. The fact there's a vulnerability in what the server runs does not mean that vulnerability is exploitable at all time.
Oct 10 03:00:25 <B0g4r7>	And who knows what else.  Wallets maybe.
Oct 10 03:00:42 <B0g4r7>	It's running an ass-old version.  All that stuff's fixed in current.
Oct 10 03:01:03 <B0g4r7>	If he was running the site properly, it wouldn't be running a vulnerable version.
Oct 10 03:01:11 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, running the latest versions should be a priority
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Oct 10 03:01:13 <B0g4r7>	Especially one with this many known documented vulns.
Oct 10 03:01:53 <BTC-Mining>	Although, the front end serving http (with nginx), API and backend might be completly separate servers.
Oct 10 03:02:18 <B0g4r7>	If the frontend can be compromised, that's a foot in the door.
Oct 10 03:02:33 <B0g4r7>	And if the front's that weak, why should the rest be necessarily in any better shape?
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Oct 10 03:02:57 <B0g4r7>	Yeah, I think I'mma submit my identity d0x onto there and trust.
Oct 10 03:02:59 <B0g4r7>	F that.
Oct 10 03:03:40 <BTC-Mining>	Yeah, I'm not saying it's all good, I'm just saying it's not automatically bad.
Oct 10 03:03:54 <B0g4r7>	Yes it is automatically bad.
Oct 10 03:04:16 <B0g4r7>	There's no excuse for that on a site handling this kind of sensitive data.
Oct 10 03:04:29 <B0g4r7>	identity docs, wallets, and who knows what else.
Oct 10 03:04:59 <B0g4r7>	jfc
Oct 10 03:06:04 <B0g4r7>	Forget about getting your funds back, this POS'll be hacked and all coins stolen before he even brings the forms back up.
Oct 10 03:07:10 <B0g4r7>	There are worms that scan for this shit all the time and automatically pwn it up.
Oct 10 03:07:33 <B0g4r7>	Surely some are evolved enough by now to 'find / | grep wallet.dat' or equivalent.
Oct 10 03:07:49 <BTC-Mining>	arf, not bad in that sense.
Oct 10 03:09:04 <BTC-Mining>	There's supposed to be a cold wallet and it wasn't hacked for months and months during which it existed.
Oct 10 03:09:16 <B0g4r7>	"supposed to be"
Oct 10 03:09:26 <B0g4r7>	A lot of that going around.
Oct 10 03:09:51 <BTC-Mining>	I'm saying it's not automatically bad in the sense it's not automatic a hack will/is likely to happen. Not running latest version remains bad.
Oct 10 03:10:01 <B0g4r7>	The previous site may well have run a different httpd.
Oct 10 03:10:26 <BTC-Mining>	It's been on nginx for months
Oct 10 03:10:41 <B0g4r7>	0.7.67?
Oct 10 03:11:00 <BTC-Mining>	I think so, no longer sure but I think that's the one.
Oct 10 03:11:55 <B0g4r7>	Type "nginx 0.7.67" into google and look at what the search suggestion is.
Oct 10 03:12:38 <BTC-Mining>	aye?
Oct 10 03:12:53 <BTC-Mining>	What am I supposed to see?
Oct 10 03:13:09 <B0g4r7>	It doesn't suggest "exploit" for you?
Oct 10 03:13:25 <BTC-Mining>	nope
Oct 10 03:13:33 <noagendamarket>	glbse was hacked though
Oct 10 03:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00031124 = 2.2721 BTC [+]
Oct 10 03:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00031151 = 2.7724 BTC [+]
Oct 10 03:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00031192 = 7.2677 BTC [+]
Oct 10 03:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17981 @ 0.00031259 = 5.6207 BTC [+]
Oct 10 03:13:50 <B0g4r7>	Does your google auto-suggest things?
Oct 10 03:14:01 <B0g4r7>	at all
Oct 10 03:14:25 <BTC-Mining>	yes
Oct 10 03:15:00 <BTC-Mining>	noagendamarket: when?
Oct 10 03:15:20 <BTC-Mining>	Wait, was it during v1?
Oct 10 03:15:23 <B0g4r7>	Well I've not looked into it deeply, but that advisories page on nginx.org showing 0.7.67 to be vulnerable to more exploits than not is pretty telling to me.
Oct 10 03:15:27 <noagendamarket>	no
Oct 10 03:15:29 <B0g4r7>	Plenty of "major" ones too.
Oct 10 03:16:25 <Chaang-Noi>	Update:we are currently unable to process account closures, and will inform our users when this service resumes.
Oct 10 03:16:27 <Chaang-Noi>	looool
Oct 10 03:16:47 <B0g4r7>	Such comedic tragedy.
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Oct 10 03:18:15 <Chaang-Noi>	they might have realized collecting data with out registration to be illegal :)
Oct 10 03:18:30 <Chaang-Noi>	or maybe they are just fail at website
Oct 10 03:18:32 <Chaang-Noi>	who knows
Oct 10 03:18:53 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet they killed their server while trying to mine ltcs :)
Oct 10 03:19:01 <B0g4r7>	"or maybe they are just fail" <-- FTFY
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Oct 10 03:21:09 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 10 03:21:11 <Chaang-Noi>	well thats clear
Oct 10 03:21:19 <Chaang-Noi>	its fun to speculate how much fail
Oct 10 03:21:25 <B0g4r7>	over 9,000
Oct 10 03:24:40 <BTC-Mining>	If people had to give up 1$ for each fail they did, there wouldn't be any fails anymore.
Oct 10 03:24:52 <BTC-Mining>	Everyone would be dead because they'd have killed themselves for being ruined.
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Oct 10 03:25:22 <noagendamarket>	if it cost 1 bitcoin there wouldnt be any
Oct 10 03:25:32 <BTC-Mining>	It's pretty demoralizing to see money go away faster than you can make it.
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Oct 10 03:26:30 <noagendamarket>	I call it scamflation
Oct 10 03:26:37 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Oct 10 03:26:39 <BTC-Mining>	True... if you don't know how to use bitcoins, you can't give one up. Thus, if you have to give one up when you fail, if you don't know about bitcoins, you can't fail.
Oct 10 03:26:53 <BTC-Mining>	Proof: bitcointalk forums
Oct 10 03:30:41 <BTC-Mining>	Note: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79923.msg1248938#msg1248938
Oct 10 03:31:44 <noagendamarket>	http://fuckyeahglbse.tumblr.com
Oct 10 03:32:01 <BTC-Mining>	Also note Kluge's comment just below: "As I have never sold equity..."
Oct 10 03:32:09 <BTC-Mining>	Is that every issuer's thinking?
Oct 10 03:32:47 <noagendamarket>	he had a bond
Oct 10 03:32:58 <noagendamarket>	not a share of the company
Oct 10 03:33:42 <BTC-Mining>	Aye, but that it's a bond or whatever else, if it's free trading, bond/stock/etc. it would fall under a security.
Oct 10 03:34:02 <noagendamarket>	yep
Oct 10 03:34:34 <BTC-Mining>	So it's kind of pointless thinking. So yet again, is that what every issuer is thinking?
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Oct 10 03:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00031275 = 0.6568 BTC [+]
Oct 10 03:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22912 @ 0.00031276 = 7.166 BTC [+]
Oct 10 03:39:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51688 @ 0.00031343 = 16.2006 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 04:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00031326 = 9.0219 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 04:30:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11319 @ 0.00031262 = 3.5385 BTC [-]
Oct 10 04:30:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2781 @ 0.00031194 = 0.8675 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 04:55:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00031194 = 4.3048 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 05:20:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6719 @ 0.00031194 = 2.0959 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 05:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26570 @ 0.00031047 = 8.2492 BTC [-]
Oct 10 05:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18801 @ 0.00031044 = 5.8366 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 06:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00031069 = 3.8836 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 06:23:50 <dub>	not sure if serious
Oct 10 06:23:51 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114336.0
Oct 10 06:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2299 @ 0.00031044 = 0.7137 BTC [-]
Oct 10 06:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24601 @ 0.00031034 = 7.6347 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 06:55:28 <dub>	down for some spacedocking
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Oct 10 07:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49081 @ 0.00031069 = 15.249 BTC [+]
Oct 10 07:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3620 @ 0.00031326 = 1.134 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 07:20:47 <jurov>	see first sentence: http://bitcoinmagazine.net/global-bitcoin-stock-exchange-shuts-down-for-good/
Oct 10 07:21:12 <jurov>	looks like btcmagazine chose to blithely ignore mpex
Oct 10 07:21:28 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Oct 10 07:21:29 <Chaang-Noi>	most of the world has
Oct 10 07:21:31 <Chaang-Noi>	morning
Oct 10 07:21:52 <Chaang-Noi>	but shocked anyonereads btcmag lol
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Oct 10 07:23:41 <jurov>	whole article is mostly collected rumors, like "Nefario has hired a lawyer for himself out of GLBSE funds"
Oct 10 07:24:25 <jurov>	if i got anything from it, knowledge we have first bitcoin tabloid :)
Oct 10 07:24:56 <Chaang-Noi>	dont even bother reading that shit... its for people to lazy to read the forum
Oct 10 07:25:03 <Chaang-Noi>	clearly that is all they do...
Oct 10 07:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33399 @ 0.00031326 = 10.4626 BTC [+]
Oct 10 07:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6401 @ 0.00031343 = 2.0063 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 07:29:47 <kakobrekla>	oh lol now
Oct 10 07:31:49 <area>	All I want from GLBSE is my account history, and I can't get it :/
Oct 10 07:37:41 <jurov>	Well, i don't have any -PR girlfriend to handle all that reading for me...
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Oct 10 07:47:56 <dub>	the fuck is that guy eating
Oct 10 07:48:09 <dub>	looks like a giant bowl of chocolate mouse
Oct 10 07:52:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121 @ 0.00031034 = 0.0376 BTC [-]
Oct 10 07:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28379 @ 0.00031029 = 8.8057 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 07:57:55 <dub>	getting ready for a hardmate
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Oct 10 08:04:16 <thestringpuller>	Bitcoin Magazine made GLBSE look like a joke.
Oct 10 08:06:48 <dub>	bitcoin magazine makesbitcoin magazine look like a joke
Oct 10 08:12:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yes
Oct 10 08:12:59 <Chaang-Noi>	have they ever had an artical that was positive?
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Oct 10 08:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38700 @ 0.00031067 = 12.0229 BTC [+]
Oct 10 08:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 223 @ 0.00031029 = 0.0692 BTC [-]
Oct 10 08:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12077 @ 0.00031027 = 3.7471 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 08:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14011 @ 0.00031343 = 4.3915 BTC [+]
Oct 10 08:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7089 @ 0.00031352 = 2.2225 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 08:58:53 <rdponticelli>	;;rate nefario -5 GLBSE's closing up is already getting the size of a clusterfuck, and a big one
Oct 10 08:58:54 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user nefario has changed from -1 to -5.
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Oct 10 09:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5523 @ 0.00031352 = 1.7316 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 09:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0003131 = 2.8179 BTC [-]
Oct 10 09:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42600 @ 0.00031222 = 13.3006 BTC [-]
Oct 10 09:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0003117 = 3.0547 BTC [-]
Oct 10 09:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.0003114 = 0.4671 BTC [-]
Oct 10 09:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00031134 = 0.9029 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 09:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38764 @ 0.00031134 = 12.0688 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 10:18:04 <Azelphur>	Anyone heard back from nefario on anything?
Oct 10 10:19:22 <copumpkin>	yeah, he called me last night cackling maniacally, saying "hahahaha my preciousssssss coinsssss are alll mineeeezzz"
Oct 10 10:19:50 <copumpkin>	then he said "I AM DOCTOR NEFARIO! MUAHAHAHAHA" and hung up
Oct 10 10:20:05 <Azelphur>	xD
Oct 10 10:20:13 <copumpkin>	it's a tad worrying, but I wouldn't be too concerned
Oct 10 10:20:30 <Azelphur>	copumpkin: well I'm a little screwed since I don't own any photo ID
Oct 10 10:21:12 <copumpkin>	Azelphur: the secret is to just take the alberto armandi passport photo that nefario himself leaked, scribble your own name over his, and send that in
Oct 10 10:21:14 <copumpkin>	he'll never notice
Oct 10 10:21:24 <Azelphur>	hehe
Oct 10 10:22:05 <Azelphur>	I can apply for a driving license but that will cost me like 6.20BTC
Oct 10 10:22:09 <Azelphur>	:/
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Oct 10 10:24:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00031226 = 3.4349 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 10:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	Update:we are currently unable to process account closures, and will inform our users when this service resumes.
Oct 10 10:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Oct 10 10:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	any suckers that already dumped their ids ?
Oct 10 10:30:09 <Azelphur>	nice
Oct 10 10:30:30 <kakobrekla>	lol
Oct 10 10:30:35 <kakobrekla>	beyond silly.
Oct 10 10:30:38 <Azelphur>	I wonder why it's closed
Oct 10 10:30:40 <rdponticelli>	Update:we are currently unable
Oct 10 10:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	this is so bitcoin consultancy-y
Oct 10 10:31:14 <rdponticelli>	That's the end of the sentence
Oct 10 10:31:22 <rdponticelli>	It could be mentally unable
Oct 10 10:31:40 <rdponticelli>	Or a lot of others thing, just fill the gap
Oct 10 10:34:52 <rdponticelli>	I guess they all have corsair patents
Oct 10 10:35:09 <rdponticelli>	And are stealing for the crown
Oct 10 10:35:18 <pigeons>	sorry we accidentaly the database and are unable to process
Oct 10 10:35:33 <rdponticelli>	The old british empire is back
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Oct 10 10:38:04 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons but its bycrpt
Oct 10 10:39:23 <pigeons>	can't hack bcrypt of course
Oct 10 10:39:50 <rdponticelli>	Anyway, as they deserve some fucking respect, they're not corsairs, they're all just privateers
Oct 10 10:39:54 <mircea_popescu>	best solution on the market.
Oct 10 10:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli privateers they're not, they go running to the govt way too often and in ridiculous ways
Oct 10 10:40:17 <pigeons>	ok then, sorry, we have been served a restraining order and are unable to process
Oct 10 10:40:26 <pigeons>	Dr. Nefario, Esq.
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Oct 10 10:40:55 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons : today when we were at  the mcdonalds the waitress looked at us a certain way and on the napkins was certain scribbled something from the prevbious patron who was this suspicious guy
Oct 10 10:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	therefore we consider we have been served a restraining order by the algerian president and will not be processing anything
Oct 10 10:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	fify.
Oct 10 10:41:28 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: privateers were often hired by the government
Oct 10 10:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	no they weren't
Oct 10 10:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	"The person that controls this address should be someone honorable that everyone trusts. And maybe he should be anonymous because the intend of this bounty maybe isnt fully legal."
Oct 10 10:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	people in bitcoin. they're the intellectual cream of the crop
Oct 10 10:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	mixed with a good scraping off the bottom of the barrel.
Oct 10 10:43:26 <JWU_42>	I sent James a note asking why he needs my dox when he has them already (I verified before)
Oct 10 10:43:37 <JWU_42>	teust i will never get a response
Oct 10 10:43:41 <JWU_42>	trust*
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Oct 10 10:49:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52800 @ 0.00031226 = 16.4873 BTC [+]
Oct 10 10:49:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00031134 = 5.0904 BTC [-]
Oct 10 10:59:18 <Ukto>	*yawn* morning
Oct 10 10:59:35 <Ukto>	so, anyone dareing enough to send nef. docs yet?
Oct 10 10:59:53 <Azelphur>	Ukto: the owner of bitinstant tried and got 413 errors
Oct 10 10:59:55 <JWU_42>	he already has mine
Oct 10 11:00:06 <Ukto>	lol
Oct 10 11:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto it's finished, they have an update, "can't process" anymore.
Oct 10 11:00:49 <Ukto>	lol nice
Oct 10 11:02:18 <Ukto>	JWU_42: his plan worked for me. I checked my records, I had left 2btc there + whatever divs my 30 shares of JAH produced since may.
Oct 10 11:02:40 <Ukto>	He can have it. I will not give him any docs.
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Oct 10 11:03:02 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i'd be surprised if 10% of accts give docs
Oct 10 11:03:13 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt he didn;'t know this. it's just scam furtherance is all.
Oct 10 11:03:17 <Ukto>	I would be surprised if ti was that high
Oct 10 11:03:40 <Ukto>	well
Oct 10 11:05:01 <Ukto>	lets be honest its one of wo possibilities, A. either further scammation, and attempt to conceal embezzled funds. B. Epic stupidity.  At this point, I put neither past him.
Oct 10 11:05:09 <Ukto>	Either way, he already won.
Oct 10 11:05:14 <mircea_popescu>	"won"
Oct 10 11:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	he already ran off with people's money. yes, he did.
Oct 10 11:05:43 <Ukto>	he doesnt say what happens to the assets and funds of those who dont submit docs
Oct 10 11:05:48 <Ukto>	sure he wont accept them for years
Oct 10 11:05:50 <Ukto>	surely
Oct 10 11:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	well... he has to, doesn't he ?
Oct 10 11:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	aml docs must be kept for 7 years.
Oct 10 11:06:36 <Ukto>	no, I ment to accept account claims
Oct 10 11:06:45 <Ukto>	he cant leave "claims" system open for years
Oct 10 11:07:04 <EskimoBob>	but you guys know where hi lives and what's his name. :)
Oct 10 11:07:09 <Ukto>	at some point it gets shut off and what.. he just gets to keep the remaining everything? anony contacts issuers "heres my shares"
Oct 10 11:07:12 <Ukto>	and claim divs from that?
Oct 10 11:07:23 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: and what he looks like.
Oct 10 11:07:47 <Ukto>	I am honestly surprised he would pull this, after going to that bitcoin london conference
Oct 10 11:08:01 <EskimoBob>	so, friends from Ukraine can drill holes to his kneecaps for almost nothing (compared to what he stole)
Oct 10 11:08:08 <Ukto>	i am partially leaning towards epic stupidity coupled with second hand scamming
Oct 10 11:08:41 <Ukto>	though, its funny, in that video, he mentioned he needed $200 REALLY badly.
Oct 10 11:08:51 <jcpham>	what video
Oct 10 11:08:57 <Ukto>	1 sec
Oct 10 11:09:23 <Ukto>	http://youtu.be/vmPD_YSQ--k
Oct 10 11:09:48 <Ukto>	he mentioned how he needed $200 SOOO BADLY for some sponsorship stuff at one point
Oct 10 11:09:53 <Ukto>	cause he couldnt wait for a gox xfer
Oct 10 11:10:35 <Ukto>	keep in mind, glbse didnt profit that much off of trades guys
Oct 10 11:10:39 <Ukto>	this isnt mtgox volume
Oct 10 11:10:51 <Ukto>	his internet was via tethered cell phone
Oct 10 11:11:44 <jcpham>	you know if someone were to partner with me with a decent idea
Oct 10 11:11:51 <jcpham>	you wouldn't ever have to beg for 200$
Oct 10 11:12:13 <EskimoBob>	stupid little man James McCarthy
Oct 10 11:12:23 <jcpham>	ijs
Oct 10 11:12:31 <jcpham>	$200 is a couple hours work
Oct 10 11:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9886 @ 0.00031134 = 3.0779 BTC [-]
Oct 10 11:14:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9323 @ 0.00031027 = 2.8926 BTC [-]
Oct 10 11:14:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17491 @ 0.0003101 = 5.424 BTC [-]
Oct 10 11:17:21 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto they were making about 4-500 each month
Oct 10 11:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	course, also had a huge debtload they were paying off.
Oct 10 11:18:18 <Ukto>	heh, mebbe recently
Oct 10 11:18:25 <Ukto>	at least in may, nefario seemed pretty broke
Oct 10 11:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	his personal finances aren't much related to the results of glbse
Oct 10 11:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	they depended on how much "salary" he could leach off the partners
Oct 10 11:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	leech*
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Oct 10 11:21:15 <EskimoBob>	"I would consider meeting this criteria if nefario were to provide me with a HD photo of his passport, drivers licence, 2 utility bills and a picture of him holding a note saying "you must be fucking joking" and a hot chick doing "bunny ears" on him." - LOL :)
Oct 10 11:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	this is unfair. how's the guy to find a hot chick now ?
Oct 10 11:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	if it were at all possible it'd have happened in his 20s
Oct 10 11:23:00 <DeaDTerra>	I just finished off a talk with James :)
Oct 10 11:23:16 <DeaDTerra>	We had a good laugh about all the paranoid people on the forums :P
Oct 10 11:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, welcome to my ignore again!
Oct 10 11:25:42 <mircea_popescu>	this guy has got to be stupid or something.
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Oct 10 11:36:08 <teek>	So during all this usagi flew the coop eh
Oct 10 11:36:29 <Ukto>	though to be honest
Oct 10 11:36:48 <Ukto>	for the 90% who dont give ID, etc.. how are the asset issures supposed to 'continue their relationship'
Oct 10 11:36:58 <Ukto>	how are the issuers supposed to continue at all
Oct 10 11:37:18 <Ukto>	"well, i have identified 5% of my shares ownerships. guess I go with that" ?
Oct 10 11:37:20 <Ukto>	what does he expect?
Oct 10 11:37:59 <Ukto>	what stops nefario from using ppl 'codes' and anon-claiming to be a share holder to an issuer
Oct 10 11:38:26 <Ukto>	mostly for the ppl who dont ID within X
Oct 10 11:40:00 <Ukto>	With all this, and his paranoia, ppl knowing his name, face, etc, I am surprised he's trying to piss ppl off
Oct 10 11:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00031103 = 10.1707 BTC [+]
Oct 10 11:40:58 <Ukto>	he needs to just reenable the site, let ppl 'transfer shares' w/o penalty and a note to distinguish themselves to the issuers
Oct 10 11:41:01 <Ukto>	and be done with it
Oct 10 11:41:37 <jcpham>	you better not ignore me mircea_popescu
Oct 10 11:41:50 <Ukto>	0,o
Oct 10 11:42:03 <jcpham>	i'll start a smear campaign about something
Oct 10 11:43:53 <EskimoBob>	DeaDTerra: wtf is James?
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Oct 10 12:01:40 <Chaang-Noi>	ukto a code system wont work
Oct 10 12:02:01 <Ukto>	regardless
Oct 10 12:02:10 <Ukto>	 a system wont work if nefario wont give out everyones assets
Oct 10 12:02:17 <Chaang-Noi>	joelcatz or whatever his name is has covered this about 10 times on the forum very well.
Oct 10 12:02:21 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 10 12:02:23 <Ukto>	he is witholding things unless ppl give him all sorta id's
Oct 10 12:02:26 <Chaang-Noi>	neferio is just being a cock
Oct 10 12:02:34 <Ukto>	yes, yes he is
Oct 10 12:02:38 <Ukto>	however
Oct 10 12:02:47 <Ukto>	while the code system wont allow ppl to trade offline
Oct 10 12:02:55 <Ukto>	it would allow the importation of the assets
Oct 10 12:02:58 <Ukto>	into another system
Oct 10 12:03:04 <Chaang-Noi>	people have been trading tygrr codes already
Oct 10 12:03:12 <Ukto>	which is dumb
Oct 10 12:03:23 <Ukto>	any system woudl be first come first serve
Oct 10 12:03:29 <Ukto>	on code submission
Oct 10 12:03:29 <Ukto>	OR
Oct 10 12:03:32 <Ukto>	they need to contact you
Oct 10 12:03:36 <Ukto>	and ask you to MAKE  new code
Oct 10 12:03:38 <Ukto>	to give out
Oct 10 12:03:38 <Ukto>	lol
Oct 10 12:03:39 <Ukto>	:P
Oct 10 12:03:45 <Ukto>	thats the ONLY way that could work
Oct 10 12:03:48 <Ukto>	and i dont think u wanna do that
Oct 10 12:03:51 <Chaang-Noi>	well... read what joel says about it, anyone with a valid code can just call the aset issuer a scammer
Oct 10 12:04:01 <Chaang-Noi>	even if it was stolen in the email or hacked or sold...
Oct 10 12:04:12 <Ukto>	true
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Oct 10 12:05:07 <Ukto>	technically
Oct 10 12:05:08 <Ukto>	at this point
Oct 10 12:05:15 <Ukto>	the whole assets setup is "compromised"
Oct 10 12:05:19 <Ukto>	due to nefario
Oct 10 12:05:25 <Ukto>	he has however many shares he says he has
Oct 10 12:05:46 <Chaang-Noi>	yes he could use 1/2 the codes
Oct 10 12:05:48 <Ukto>	at this point, the issuers and asset holders have no choice but to trust at least the issuers, or get out
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Oct 10 12:05:53 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone trusting nefario the scammer is foolish
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Oct 10 12:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00031285 = 10.5118 BTC [+]
Oct 10 12:08:23 <Chaang-Noi>	ukto i keep talking to you in pm and you dont respond
Oct 10 12:08:31 <Ukto>	im not getting any msgs
Oct 10 12:08:36 <Chaang-Noi>	takes me a while to catch on why...
Oct 10 12:08:39 <Ukto>	your not
Oct 10 12:08:40 <Ukto>	lol
Oct 10 12:08:41 <Ukto>	yeah
Oct 10 12:08:46 <Ukto>	you need to be identified
Oct 10 12:08:47 <Ukto>	:P
Oct 10 12:08:51 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway i wish you the best of luck but sadly i have to sleep now.
Oct 10 12:08:59 <Chaang-Noi>	good night everyone
Oct 10 12:09:02 <Ukto>	llater
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Oct 10 12:10:59 <Ukto>	Chaang-Noi: I'm gonna need it! :P
Oct 10 12:11:23 <Chaang-Noi>	im sure you will do fine :)
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Oct 10 12:22:33 <DeaDTerra>	<mircea_popescu> o hey, welcome to my ignore again!
Oct 10 12:22:33 <DeaDTerra>	<mircea_popescu> this guy has got to be stupid or something.
Oct 10 12:23:01 <DeaDTerra>	So now you ignore people that you don't agree with? I was talking about the people that think Nefario is a under ground cop gather Ids for the Feds...
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Oct 10 12:32:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52500 @ 0.00031142 = 16.3496 BTC [-]
Oct 10 12:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5225 @ 0.00031103 = 1.6251 BTC [-]
Oct 10 12:33:36 <DeaDTerra>	<EskimoBob> DeaDTerra: wtf is James?, James Aka Nefario
Oct 10 12:45:20 <Ukto>	DeaDTerra: did he mention why he wants aml now? after saying it would not be needed a few weeks ago? and waht he will do with the unclaimed assets/btc held?
Oct 10 12:46:19 <Ukto>	i think he realised his delima with this, and thats why he put a hold on accepting id's
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Oct 10 12:47:14 <Ukto>	i honestly dont think he's "trying" to scam ppl, i think he's just making some bad decisions
Oct 10 12:50:13 <rdponticelli>	He's not "trying" to scam people, he's ACTUALLY scamming people, been that his willing or not
Oct 10 12:51:29 <Ukto>	its always all about Point of View. someone can do things for all the rights reaons to them, but to everyone else, it can be the worst actions for the worst reasons. such is mankind
Oct 10 12:53:14 <Doffx>	I like the idea of just opening the damn site and letting use send our assets to the asset creator with an email or something.
Oct 10 12:53:52 <Doffx>	However I'm sure the reason he doesn’t do that is because people would also expect to get their btc as well in the account.
Oct 10 12:54:13 <Ukto>	yeh
Oct 10 12:54:13 <Ukto>	well
Oct 10 12:54:17 <Ukto>	he could lock down btc withdraw
Oct 10 12:54:21 <Ukto>	to only ID'd ppl
Oct 10 12:54:27 <Doffx>	That's what makes him a scammer
Oct 10 12:54:34 <Ukto>	at least ppl can claim their assets
Oct 10 12:54:48 <Doffx>	Its not his BTC to hold on to.
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Oct 10 12:55:19 <Doffx>	The assets are just a note of transaction really, the btc being held up is unacceptable.
Oct 10 12:55:20 <Ukto>	agreed. thats his own issue to deal with
Oct 10 12:55:30 <Ukto>	i only suggest the asset as a partial solution
Oct 10 12:55:48 <Doffx>	Yeah, it would certainly help if he opened that up.
Oct 10 12:56:00 <Ukto>	most ppl have most of their money invested in the shares
Oct 10 12:56:07 <Ukto>	not just sitting in their accounts
Oct 10 12:56:13 <Doffx>	Yeah, I only have .09 btc in the account.
Oct 10 12:56:18 <Ukto>	i think most ppl would agree to say fuck their holdings, in exchange for tehir btc
Oct 10 12:56:22 <Ukto>	err
Oct 10 12:56:26 <Ukto>	fuck the btc, in exchange for their assets
Oct 10 12:56:35 <Ukto>	which is prolly worth the most of the two
Oct 10 12:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00031285 = 0.1251 BTC [+]
Oct 10 12:57:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3039 @ 0.0003129 = 0.9509 BTC [+]
Oct 10 12:57:24 <Ukto>	if he holds back anyones assets, for any reason
Oct 10 12:57:29 <Ukto>	then the issuer cannot just move on
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Oct 10 12:57:40 <Ukto>	and he is therefore contridicting himself
Oct 10 12:57:46 <Ukto>	and might as well just shutdown the server
Oct 10 12:57:50 <Ukto>	and dissapear
Oct 10 12:58:30 <Ukto>	there was either no forethought, or not enough when he did this
Oct 10 12:58:53 <Ukto>	unless his intentions are actually to scam ppl
Oct 10 12:59:00 <Ukto>	he needs to consider carefully what that means
Oct 10 12:59:12 <Doffx>	I doubt that, he could have done that long ago.
Oct 10 12:59:38 <rdponticelli>	https://btcst.com/login
Oct 10 12:59:46 <rdponticelli>	Website still there...
Oct 10 12:59:49 <Ukto>	if he is having an internal battle over legalities of giving ppl their stuff w/o id, thats a problem he has to bite the bullet on, and move forward doing, because chose to not require id in the first place
Oct 10 12:59:57 <Doffx>	He got himself in some sort of trouble now that apparent, and if there is any government involvement we know how much worse they make it.
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Oct 10 13:00:15 <Ukto>	if it was govt intervention, the site would just go down
Oct 10 13:00:18 <Ukto>	and not come back
Oct 10 13:00:23 <Ukto>	no one would get 'assets' back
Oct 10 13:00:26 <Ukto>	that would be illegal
Oct 10 13:00:57 <Ukto>	even if he was given a cease and desist
Oct 10 13:00:59 <Doffx>	If pirate pays out I could just write Glbse off and still be waaaay ahead.
Oct 10 13:01:03 <rdponticelli>	Everything looks just like stalling tactics
Oct 10 13:01:14 <Ukto>	that would not require him to take ppls id's
Oct 10 13:01:22 <Ukto>	and the govt doesnt want 1,000's of ppl id's
Oct 10 13:01:26 <Ukto>	to send them all to jail
Oct 10 13:01:30 <Ukto>	thats not how it works
Oct 10 13:01:56 <rdponticelli>	But if he really is a fucking, evil scammer, he can do a lot with id
Oct 10 13:02:44 <rdponticelli>	He can open thousands of glbses on behalf of every sucker who send his id to him
Oct 10 13:03:32 <rdponticelli>	He can open bank accounts, traverse borders, and who know how many other things
Oct 10 13:03:39 <rdponticelli>	Imagination is the limit
Oct 10 13:03:54 <Ukto>	he has to bite the bullet and not require id
Oct 10 13:03:58 <Ukto>	there is no way it will work
Oct 10 13:04:04 <Ukto>	w/o a scammer tag
Oct 10 13:04:11 <Ukto>	and possibly legal issues from holders
Oct 10 13:04:18 <Ukto>	and govt fraud investigations
Oct 10 13:04:22 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 10 13:04:22 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.97002, Best ask: 12, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last trade: 12, 24 hour volume: 29194, 24 hour low: 11.711, 24 hour high: 12.15
Oct 10 13:04:28 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 10 13:04:29 <gribble>	11.98
Oct 10 13:04:31 <rdponticelli>	At this point we all should be supposing he's an evil scammer
Oct 10 13:04:43 <Ukto>	until he proove himself
Oct 10 13:04:45 <Ukto>	thats what he is
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Oct 10 13:05:06 <Ukto>	and the longer he takes, the longer and stronger the tag will get, regardless of his righting things
Oct 10 13:05:20 <rdponticelli>	That's right
Oct 10 13:05:25 <smickles>	Ukto: still chatting about what happened 'yesterday' or is this something new?
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Oct 10 13:05:35 <rdponticelli>	I rated him -1 a couple of days ago
Oct 10 13:05:36 <Ukto>	smickles: id acceptance is closed
Oct 10 13:05:44 <rdponticelli>	Now it's a -5
Oct 10 13:06:14 <rdponticelli>	In a couple of days more, he's getting the -10 if he doesn't show good faith
Oct 10 13:06:27 <smickles>	;;rated nefario
Oct 10 13:06:27 <gribble>	You rated user nefario on Fri Oct  5 17:57:26 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: seems to have broken contracts and screwed over many people for his own ass.
Oct 10 13:06:30 <gp5st>	anyone here interested in helping write a trading bot? I have a vague idea of financial strategies and am a decent programmer, so I would mainly be looking for someone to advise on financial strategy. Or be able to point me to more information?
Oct 10 13:06:58 <Doffx>	I cant blame him for saving his own ass.
Oct 10 13:07:03 <Ukto>	;;getrating nefario
Oct 10 13:07:03 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User nefario, rated since Tue Jul 12 19:55:49 2011. Cumulative rating -19, from 15 total ratings. Received ratings: 6 positive, 9 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=nefario
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Oct 10 13:07:05 <smickles>	gp5st: i wrote one already,what language are you considering
Oct 10 13:07:10 <DeaDTerra>	<Ukto> DeaDTerra: did he mention why he wants aml now? after saying it would not be needed a few weeks ago? and waht he will do with the unclaimed assets/btc held?
Oct 10 13:07:24 <kakobrekla>	19:07.01 ( Doffx ) I cant blame him for saving his own ass.
Oct 10 13:07:28 <DeaDTerra>	It's due to the legality issues, he did it because his lawyer adviced him to do such
Oct 10 13:07:30 <Doffx>	I wonder how many people here would not tried to save their own ass first haha.
Oct 10 13:07:31 <kakobrekla>	you cant blame hashking too then
Oct 10 13:07:32 <kakobrekla>	lol
Oct 10 13:07:40 <kakobrekla>	and pirate
Oct 10 13:07:42 <kakobrekla>	jeez
Oct 10 13:07:46 <kakobrekla>	he is only saving his ass
Oct 10 13:07:49 <gp5st>	smickles: there are a bunch out there, I kind of wanted to do it as an exercise. I was thinking ruby to start
Oct 10 13:07:50 <kakobrekla>	cant blame him.
Oct 10 13:07:51 <Doffx>	It doesn’t make it right
Oct 10 13:07:57 <DeaDTerra>	also regarding the unclaimed Assets and BTC I think he will keep the server up for a long enough time for anyone to claim the assets/BTC
Oct 10 13:08:01 <gp5st>	smickles: what lang was yours in
Oct 10 13:08:17 <Doffx>	My point was more, everyone here would most likely save their own ass first.
Oct 10 13:08:18 <Ukto>	DeaDTerra: but what about those who cant or dont want to provide their id's?
Oct 10 13:08:27 <Ukto>	amd why wont he just come talk to people
Oct 10 13:08:32 <DeaDTerra>	<Ukto> DeaDTerra: but what about those who cant or dont want to provide their id's?
Oct 10 13:08:35 <DeaDTerra>	That I am not sure off
Oct 10 13:08:39 <DeaDTerra>	I didn't ask
Oct 10 13:08:40 <smickles>	gp5st: well, actually  i wrote one in java and the other in python, python worked out better
Oct 10 13:08:43 <Ukto>	thats the worst part
Oct 10 13:08:47 <Ukto>	is that he wont talk to people
Oct 10 13:08:49 <smickles>	gp5st: so ruby should be fine
Oct 10 13:08:56 <DeaDTerra>	I understand him
Oct 10 13:09:00 <gp5st>	smickles: how come the python bot worked better?
Oct 10 13:09:05 <DeaDTerra>	he has gotten tons of death threats, via pm,email and phone
Oct 10 13:09:09 <Ukto>	i'm sure
Oct 10 13:09:28 <Ukto>	he should have throught it through alot more thouughly then just pulling the plug
Oct 10 13:09:33 <DeaDTerra>	if you see the amount of shit being written about him, I wouldn't go out and make any forum announcement. I would say fuck the forum I am sticking with the GLBSE website.
Oct 10 13:09:38 <DeaDTerra>	and that's probably what he thinks as well.
Oct 10 13:09:42 <Doffx>	Maybe I used the wrong words.
Oct 10 13:09:49 <gp5st>	smickles: i thought it would be a fun exercise and an opportunity to learn more about trading in general
Oct 10 13:09:52 <Ukto>	i agree, screw forums heh
Oct 10 13:09:56 <Ukto>	but still, if he came here of all places
Oct 10 13:10:07 <smickles>	gp5st: because java ate memory like nothing else, and the mechanize library in python made things a lot easier, i think ruby has mechanize too
Oct 10 13:10:09 <Ukto>	and said "hey guys, i am shutting down for legal reasons. and working on a plan"
Oct 10 13:10:13 <Ukto>	ppl would be alot more understanding
Oct 10 13:10:14 <DeaDTerra>	Well, sometimes decisions has to be made, this one was made for his own sake because he didn't want to be a criminal.
Oct 10 13:10:26 <kakobrekla>	he is a criminal now
Oct 10 13:10:29 <Ukto>	now its making him into more of a criminal
Oct 10 13:10:32 <Ukto>	because it was not handled right
Oct 10 13:10:40 <DeaDTerra>	That's true, but he only has limited amount of internet access as I understand.
Oct 10 13:10:44 <gp5st>	smickles: gotchya. it does
Oct 10 13:10:44 <DeaDTerra>	He's not a criminal.
Oct 10 13:10:49 <Ukto>	he does have limited internet, i agree with that
Oct 10 13:10:58 <Doffx>	Its always the lack of information I hate.
Oct 10 13:11:02 <Ukto>	yes
Oct 10 13:11:04 <DeaDTerra>	He has yet to steal anything, stop making asumptions
Oct 10 13:11:10 <Ukto>	if he had even spent 5 minutes writing a paragraph on glbse
Oct 10 13:11:10 <Doffx>	No one knows what the hell is going on.
Oct 10 13:11:12 <Ukto>	AT FIRST
Oct 10 13:11:17 <gp5st>	smickles: where did you find various strategies to implement?
Oct 10 13:11:17 <Ukto>	ppl would have been more willing
Oct 10 13:11:24 <kakobrekla>	my funds are as good as stolen
Oct 10 13:11:27 <DeaDTerra>	Indeed it sucks, but tbh the community doesn't deserve it as it's acting atm
Oct 10 13:11:47 <DeaDTerra>	Something that might happen in the future doesn't make someone a thief in the present.
Oct 10 13:11:50 <Ukto>	DeaDTerra: can you blame teh community for treating someone who is acting like a sscammer, as a scammer?
Oct 10 13:12:01 <Ukto>	the problem is, the website goes offline
Oct 10 13:12:02 <kakobrekla>	its already happend
Oct 10 13:12:09 <Ukto>	ppl waited
Oct 10 13:12:11 <Ukto>	a week
Oct 10 13:12:18 <smickles>	gp5st: mostly i was reading various financial articles, academic stuff which I found in a university library
Oct 10 13:12:30 <Ukto>	then he tells ppl to go trhough near impossible hoops
Oct 10 13:12:36 <DeaDTerra>	No but I can blame then for jumping peoples throats to fast, instead of trying to help out and understand the situation. When I saw GLBSE was down the first thing I thought was not go make a tons of crap post on the forums, it was try to find out what happened.
Oct 10 13:12:38 <Ukto>	and gives no details
Oct 10 13:12:40 <gp5st>	smickles: yeah, my next step was the libary
Oct 10 13:12:52 <smickles>	gp5st: then I started coming up with my own ideas based on theose and observed the market closly for some time
Oct 10 13:12:53 <Ukto>	iwhen i saw glbse went down
Oct 10 13:12:59 <Ukto>	i went to email nefario to ask if I could help
Oct 10 13:13:12 <Ukto>	as i have tried to help in the past
Oct 10 13:13:14 <Ukto>	no response
Oct 10 13:13:22 <Ukto>	no info
Oct 10 13:13:24 <Ukto>	on anything
Oct 10 13:13:39 <smickles>	gp5st: bitcoin's marked is small, so look at analisys of penny stocks in the academic papers, good stuff
Oct 10 13:13:45 <Ukto>	i think its great that he talked to you
Oct 10 13:13:48 <DeaDTerra>	I am not blaiming you, it's more the people making up bullshit and consperacy theories etc, that are based on no evidence and is presented as fact.
Oct 10 13:13:53 <gp5st>	smickles: thanks!
Oct 10 13:14:02 <Ukto>	the problem with that, is he didnt give anything to work with
Oct 10 13:14:02 <smickles>	gp5st: np
Oct 10 13:14:07 <DeaDTerra>	I had his number and I called him earlier when the site shut down, he told me legal and I told the community what he told me.
Oct 10 13:14:07 <knotwork>	gp5st an interesting strategy I would like to have bot try would be keep an average price a given thing has cost so far per unit for what it has of it so far, and buy any it can afford that are cheaper
Oct 10 13:14:49 <knotwork>	obviously not a really active strategy and likely to buy too soon when price falls so maybe not very good
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Oct 10 13:15:09 <knotwork>	but then could maybe be improved by buyung only with part of its spending-money
Oct 10 13:15:21 <knotwork>	so it would get to buy little bits at a time as price falls
Oct 10 13:15:23 <Ukto>	DeaDTerra: death threats or not, he needs to be more open and communative
Oct 10 13:15:25 <Ukto>	thats te bottom line
Oct 10 13:15:28 <Ukto>	or it will make things worse
Oct 10 13:15:40 <Ukto>	hiding, and staying quite wont help him get less threats
Oct 10 13:15:43 <Ukto>	and be less of a target
Oct 10 13:15:46 <knotwork>	a defnsive strategy basically, not aggreessive at all
Oct 10 13:15:48 <Ukto>	quiet
Oct 10 13:15:49 <Ukto>	even
Oct 10 13:15:58 <DeaDTerra>	 Of course, I am not saying the fault is one sided
Oct 10 13:16:06 <Ukto>	as I said
Oct 10 13:16:10 <DeaDTerra>	I am just saying I understand why he isn't talking, he got backed into a corner.
Oct 10 13:16:11 <Ukto>	right now
Oct 10 13:16:15 <Ukto>	he is damned if he does, and damned if he doesnt
Oct 10 13:16:19 <Ukto>	his lawyer should have told him that
Oct 10 13:16:21 <Ukto>	he has 2 choices
Oct 10 13:16:25 <Doffx>	How is he backed in to a corner?
Oct 10 13:16:27 <Ukto>	possible govt actions
Oct 10 13:16:32 <Ukto>	aginst him
Oct 10 13:16:36 <Doffx>	Unless a lawyer is saying dont say a word or something
Oct 10 13:16:37 <Ukto>	or possible asset holder actions
Oct 10 13:16:38 <Ukto>	aginst him
Oct 10 13:16:45 <DeaDTerra>	He has his lawyer and the legal aspect on one side and the bitcoin community on the other
Oct 10 13:16:58 <Ukto>	correct
Oct 10 13:17:00 <DeaDTerra>	The lawyer told him, Don't say anything until I tell you to say something.
Oct 10 13:17:02 <DeaDTerra>	literllay
Oct 10 13:17:18 <Doffx>	He doesn’t give a flying fuck about the btc community right now I'm sure
Oct 10 13:17:21 <Ukto>	but he has, he has relayed via you
Oct 10 13:17:25 <DeaDTerra>	I would listen to my lawyer a lot more then the forums no offense.
Oct 10 13:17:28 <Ukto>	would you not testify in court taht you talked to him?
Oct 10 13:17:34 <DeaDTerra>	Nope
Oct 10 13:17:37 <Doffx>	If hes in legal hot water hes looking at saving himself first, this was my point from before.
Oct 10 13:17:42 <DeaDTerra>	I wouldn't sell out James
Oct 10 13:17:53 <Ukto>	so if they bring ou phone records, you would deny their existance?
Oct 10 13:17:54 <knotwork>	it also would not "make" money so its purpose would be its who you give your investment budget to, it spends that budget only if doing so results in it got a lower average price for what it bought
Oct 10 13:17:58 <DeaDTerra>	He is no longer in legal hot water
Oct 10 13:18:10 <Doffx>	Do you know that for sure?
Oct 10 13:18:33 <Ukto>	sore ppl who have 10,000$ invested, who dont trust him with their id's and want to sue him, or open govt fraud investigations on him, is not putting him in legal hot water?
Oct 10 13:18:33 <Doffx>	If hes not then where the hell is he?
Oct 10 13:18:33 <DeaDTerra>	I called after he just been with the lawyer and I asked if he's going to be okay or if somethings going to happen, he says he will be okay.
Oct 10 13:18:37 <Ukto>	or life threatening situations?
Oct 10 13:19:11 <knotwork>	it would have been slaugtered on GLBSE though as everything just went into free-fall forever unto worthlessness ;)
Oct 10 13:19:21 <DeaDTerra>	I think it was more that he didn't realize how illegal it was, no goverment has contacted him no SEC. Though he went to his goverment to check the legal status of GLBSE and got a major shocker off how many laws it broke, so his lawyer adviced him to shut it down immediately (my guess)
Oct 10 13:19:26 <gp5st>	smickles: in your experience what would be a "successful" weekly ROI? 0.1%?
Oct 10 13:19:42 <JWU_42>	DeaDTerra: agreed...
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Oct 10 13:19:53 <JWU_42>	on your guess
Oct 10 13:19:54 <smickles>	gp5st: over what time period?
Oct 10 13:20:16 <Ukto>	DeaDTerra: no lawyer would tell you that a bitcoin X is illegal. they woudl advise aginst it, and tell you that your asking for trouble.
Oct 10 13:20:16 <DeaDTerra>	It's a educated guess, as I haven't gotten all the details confirmed but it's the general outline of what seem to have happened.
Oct 10 13:20:25 <DeaDTerra>	Yea
Oct 10 13:20:29 <gp5st>	smickles: i would probably keep it up for a while. It'll hopefully still be up in a year
Oct 10 13:21:00 <DeaDTerra>	I am no lawyer xD, and I didn't talk to James in a lawyer sense :P Obviously his lawyer strongly adviced him against it in su8ch a manner where he felt he could no longer keep GLBSE running
Oct 10 13:21:11 <Ukto>	if you ask a lawyer "is using bitcoins online illegal" they will advise you aginst it, and that it may be illegal, and land you in jail
Oct 10 13:21:12 <Ukto>	any lawyer
Oct 10 13:21:34 <smickles>	gp5st: well, on a 1 year time frame, i should hope you get 5%. but anything better than a 10% loss is good
Oct 10 13:21:41 <smickles>	imo
Oct 10 13:21:49 <DeaDTerra>	If you ask a lawyer, I run a stock exchange with virtual currency I am sure they will be heavily against it as well :P
Oct 10 13:21:51 <gp5st>	smickles: :-p thanks for the encouragment:)
Oct 10 13:21:56 <Ukto>	yes
Oct 10 13:22:01 <Ukto>	there is no presidence
Oct 10 13:22:04 <Ukto>	DeaDTerra: if you do know him that well, you also know he's super paranoid
Oct 10 13:22:05 <DeaDTerra>	A lot more so then Bitcoins
Oct 10 13:22:14 <Ukto>	so a lawyer saying "you are at risk" woudl be enough to cause this
Oct 10 13:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19377 @ 0.0003129 = 6.0631 BTC [+]
Oct 10 13:22:30 <Ukto>	doesnt have to be "you are seriously at risk"
Oct 10 13:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2516 @ 0.00031329 = 0.7882 BTC [+]
Oct 10 13:22:44 <knotwork>	if you ask a lowyer if running a web based business at all is illegal they might well advise that if you have to ask, then maybe it is, and probe as to what exactly about what you plan to do is something you think might be illegal and why
Oct 10 13:22:49 <DeaDTerra>	The difference is the shades of gray ^^ ( see what I did there xD), Bitcoin is light gray at best. GLBSE is pretty fucking dark gray especially if your the owner of it. There are already laws against stock exchanges but there are no laws against Bitcoins yet.
Oct 10 13:23:05 <Ukto>	right
Oct 10 13:23:14 <Ukto>	i agree 100% with that
Oct 10 13:23:26 <Ukto>	and unfortnately depending on the govt you get fucked by gray
Oct 10 13:23:27 <Ukto>	in the US
Oct 10 13:23:32 <Ukto>	if its gray
Oct 10 13:23:42 <Ukto>	they determine that its illegal, and then youg et fucked, w/o a chacne to end it
Oct 10 13:23:54 <DeaDTerra>	Indeed which is probably why James decided to shut down before someone decided to take notice of GLBSE
Oct 10 13:23:57 <Ukto>	other countries will determine it is illegal, and then demand it stopped
Oct 10 13:24:14 <Ukto>	some countries
Oct 10 13:24:18 <Ukto>	will determin illegalness
Oct 10 13:24:22 <Ukto>	issue a sentance
Oct 10 13:24:46 <Ukto>	and leave the site up, and not re-visit the legality of it *cough(piratebay)cough*
Oct 10 13:24:47 <smickles>	how is bitcoin itself legally gray?
Oct 10 13:24:58 <Ukto>	smickles: depending on your country
Oct 10 13:24:58 <Ukto>	:)
Oct 10 13:25:28 <DeaDTerra>	go Sweden :D
Oct 10 13:25:32 <Ukto>	:P
Oct 10 13:25:41 <DeaDTerra>	( I am a swede btw ^^)
Oct 10 13:25:54 <smickles>	Ukto: oh yea, probably a no-go in iran or something
Oct 10 13:26:22 <Ukto>	btw DeaDTerra, mebbe you can tell me. somoene told me the pirate bay owner was 'released' from jail, and its good to go now. but others told me that he 'escaped'? wtf?
Oct 10 13:26:25 *	Ukto hasnt followed it that closely
Oct 10 13:26:29 <Ukto>	smickles: defenitly
Oct 10 13:26:54 <DeaDTerra>	Ehm
Oct 10 13:26:59 <DeaDTerra>	One of the guys first bailed
Oct 10 13:27:04 <DeaDTerra>	to some random country in Asia
Oct 10 13:27:07 <DeaDTerra>	they found him
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Oct 10 13:27:10 <DeaDTerra>	and now he's in jail
Oct 10 13:27:30 <DeaDTerra>	don't think he has been released yet
Oct 10 13:27:45 <Ukto>	was another guy jailed, and then released?
Oct 10 13:28:20 <Ukto>	was told one guy only had to do some 1month in jail, cause of the court time, etc
Oct 10 13:28:21 <Ukto>	and was released
Oct 10 13:28:43 <Ukto>	(hell, if i coudl do a piratebay, goto jail for 1 month, and then its good to go. that would be epic(
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Oct 10 13:35:23 <jurov>	i got into some reddit discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/118tii/global_bitcoin_stock_exchange_shuts_down_for_good/
Oct 10 13:35:36 <jurov>	apparently bitcoin magazine has some "internal sources"
Oct 10 13:35:53 <jurov>	or they had seen glbse shareholder meeting minutes
Oct 10 13:36:35 <jurov>	i learn new things every day </sarcasm>
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Oct 10 13:44:41 <Doffx>	Ok this made me laugh
Oct 10 13:44:44 <Doffx>	mpex is a guy trading shares with himself.
Oct 10 13:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27111 @ 0.00031243 = 8.4703 BTC [-]
Oct 10 13:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9303 @ 0.00031212 = 2.9037 BTC [-]
Oct 10 13:50:00 <Cylta>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e805fee2ec5c5fcf00e1156e189a310ca41f84a038b49e8e0f0b1e97
Oct 10 13:50:01 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user Cylta with key 35E361F6B371D52E
Oct 10 13:54:30 <Cylta>	;;getrating bramz
Oct 10 13:54:30 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User bramz, rated since Fri Sep 21 05:49:16 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=bramz
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Oct 10 14:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25866 @ 0.0003101 = 8.021 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 14:23:18 <knotwork>	smickles, are you settled in after moving yet?
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Oct 10 14:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00031155 = 8.7546 BTC [+]
Oct 10 14:41:20 <EskimoBob>	so, scammer usagi has left the building for good? I bet he has a new username and he is lurking here right now :)
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Oct 10 14:41:46 <Doffx>	Why would he need to do that?
Oct 10 14:42:04 <Doffx>	Not like he has glbse down, seems silly.
Oct 10 14:44:05 <pigeons>	maybe he's just putting in overtime at work to repay the two month advance he took to help his assets
Oct 10 14:45:45 <jcpham>	who took a 2 month advance
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Oct 10 14:49:17 <Eisenhower34>	Has there anything happennd i wasnt aware of? Last I heard was that EskimoBob was the one who deserved that scammer tag for not keeping his word
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Oct 10 14:52:30 <pigeons>	yeah, basically usagi overvalued assets, made backdoor deals, and closed out the collateral fund for his CDO, but who cares now right
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Oct 10 15:04:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5086 @ 0.00031155 = 1.5845 BTC [+]
Oct 10 15:04:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20977 @ 0.00031208 = 6.5465 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 15:16:34 <kakobrekla>	http://i.imgur.com/Q4P0S.jpg
Oct 10 15:17:01 <kakobrekla>	i can see the usefulness.
Oct 10 15:20:21 <kakobrekla>	patrick, is that you? http://i.imgur.com/stFPN.jpg
Oct 10 15:21:36 <EskimoBob>	Eisenhower34: I think there was 2 or 3 threads demanding a scammer tag for usagi. Exchange went belly up and he was home free. Now he is gone.
Oct 10 15:21:54 <EskimoBob>	pufff.... as expected
Oct 10 15:24:22 <EskimoBob>	he hated me with passion :) because I understood how full of shit he is and did not keep my mouth shut about it. fkn scumbag and a liar he is
Oct 10 15:25:06 <smickles>	knotwork: not quite, the majority of our stuff is arranged to be delivered on the 14th
Oct 10 15:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15223 @ 0.00031208 = 4.7508 BTC [+]
Oct 10 15:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24335 @ 0.00031329 = 7.6239 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 15:36:54 <smickles>	knotwork: but i am navigating the red tape in starting up my accounting company
Oct 10 15:37:21 <smickles>	*may well call it a bitcoin accounting company
Oct 10 15:39:06 <WormDrink>	Hi
Oct 10 15:39:45 <WormDrink>	I want to invest some of my money in shares - kinda noob - looking for good online trading platforms
Oct 10 15:40:03 <WormDrink>	this might not be the best place to ask
Oct 10 15:41:08 <EskimoBob>	sure it is WormDrink
Oct 10 15:41:14 <rdponticelli>	WormDrink: This might not be the best moment to ask :)
Oct 10 15:41:30 <WormDrink>	yeah that too
Oct 10 15:41:30 <EskimoBob>	timing is bad, place is right
Oct 10 15:41:34 <WormDrink>	cool
Oct 10 15:42:41 <EskimoBob>	WormDrink: did you read about Open Transactions?
Oct 10 15:43:02 <rdponticelli>	Where is kakobrekla to say: read the f**** topic?
Oct 10 15:43:27 <WormDrink>	EskimoBob, no
Oct 10 15:43:29 <WormDrink>	I did not
Oct 10 15:43:35 <EskimoBob>	rdponticelli: jerking of to polish porn
Oct 10 15:44:35 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, Open Transactions is the future
Oct 10 15:46:00 <rdponticelli>	But it still doesn't have a lot of thing to invest in
Oct 10 15:46:28 <rdponticelli>	And at this point is kind of hard to setup for a noob...
Oct 10 15:46:34 <BTC-Mining>	there's nothing to invest in with Open Transactions yet, no?
Oct 10 15:46:49 <jcpham>	developer time
Oct 10 15:47:03 <jcpham>	invest knowledge and time in OT
Oct 10 15:47:33 <WormDrink>	rdponticelli, noob @ shares - not anything else really
Oct 10 15:47:35 <rdponticelli>	I think that knotwork has some contracts for cryptocurrencies on his server...
Oct 10 15:47:37 <WormDrink>	but good to know
Oct 10 15:47:41 <WormDrink>	looks intresting
Oct 10 15:48:14 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, it's really interesting
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Oct 10 15:48:44 <rdponticelli>	Really worth investing in it
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Oct 10 15:55:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11060 @ 0.00031329 = 3.465 BTC [+]
Oct 10 15:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42914 @ 0.00031352 = 13.4544 BTC [+]
Oct 10 15:55:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13426 @ 0.00031355 = 4.2097 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 16:00:32 <smickles>	sweet, I got one step done
Oct 10 16:00:43 <smickles>	the domain i wanted was available
Oct 10 16:00:54 <smickles>	smickles.com
Oct 10 16:01:00 <BTC-Mining>	eh
Oct 10 16:01:12 <smickles>	eh?
Oct 10 16:01:19 *	jurov rushes to register smickl.es
Oct 10 16:01:49 <jurov>	smickles, what u plan?
Oct 10 16:02:18 <smickles>	I will provide accounting related professional services in exchange for bitcoin
Oct 10 16:02:36 <smickles>	I'll operate out of tucson, AZ as a registered llc
Oct 10 16:02:47 <BTC-Mining>	sounds excellent
Oct 10 16:03:47 <smickles>	as soon as I confirm the total fees which i'll need to pay for licensing and registration, i'll sell some btc for ust too
Oct 10 16:03:52 <chmod755>	;;title smickles.com
Oct 10 16:03:54 <gribble>	Hover
Oct 10 16:04:18 <smickles>	chmod755: what can i say, i liked tucows back in the day
Oct 10 16:04:29 <knotwork>	<BTC-Mining> there's nothing to invest in with Open Transactions yet, no? --> http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html
Oct 10 16:05:01 <smickles>	chmod755: also, I need to contract a webdev sometime shortly
Oct 10 16:05:42 <BTC-Mining>	what are those "shares" exactly?
Oct 10 16:06:07 <knotwork>	typically one millionth of the total assets of the corp
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Oct 10 16:06:37 <knotwork>	the value is determined by the script by adding up all that corp's assets and dividing by number (typically a million) of shares
Oct 10 16:07:23 <knotwork>	of course for e.g. bitcoins there are no known assets to divide by 21,000,000 to determine value per bitcoin :)
Oct 10 16:08:24 <knotwork>	however for CDN, UKB, MBC, NKL, GMC, GRF, UNS, GZB one can indeed treat them like shares as those nations/corps do own assets
Oct 10 16:08:55 <knotwork>	basically add up the national reserves the nation has with which to back their currency to see how much to value their currency
Oct 10 16:09:21 <knotwork>	s/GZB/CZB/
Oct 10 16:15:50 <jcpham>	i love it smickles
Oct 10 16:17:48 <smickles>	thanks jcpham :) I hope to be up and running soon
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Oct 10 16:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72100 @ 0.00031093 = 22.4181 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 16:36:57 <Doffx>	smickles.com cool
Oct 10 16:37:43 <chmod755>	;;web fetch smickles.com
Oct 10 16:37:44 <gribble>	Error: 'smickles.com' is not a valid url.
Oct 10 16:37:53 <chmod755>	;;web fetch http://smickles.com
Oct 10 16:37:53 <gribble>	'<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"\n  "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">\n<head>\n<title>Hover</title>\n<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />\n<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE7" />\n<meta http-equiv="CACHE-CONTROL" (11 more messages)
Oct 10 16:37:54 <Doffx>	can I just hand over all my btc smickles since I am clearly not making wise decisions?
Oct 10 16:38:05 <chmod755>	Doffx, yes
Oct 10 16:38:10 <Doffx>	hehe
Oct 10 16:41:02 <chmod755>	Doffx, you can also give your coins to me if you want
Oct 10 16:41:41 <Doffx>	No thanks I was hoping to get more returned than I put in.
Oct 10 16:41:55 <Doffx>	Although at this point its not really worked out that way.
Oct 10 16:42:18 <chmod755>	i'd invest them to buy a scammer tag so i'm officially allowed to run a ponzi
Oct 10 16:42:41 <chmod755>	jk
Oct 10 16:42:47 <Doffx>	I didnt know that was a requirement to run one.
Oct 10 16:43:14 <rdponticelli>	Doffx: In bitcoinland you're doing good if you get back something at all
Oct 10 16:43:25 <Doffx>	I see that now.
Oct 10 16:43:41 <Doffx>	I did find a really good place to put my coins lately.
Oct 10 16:43:58 <rdponticelli>	And the scammer tag is just the prize they gave you when your ponzi has been a success
Oct 10 16:44:32 <Eisenhower34>	in regards to the past 3 months... there havent been a good place to put your coins in in the last 3 months....
Oct 10 16:44:45 <Doffx>	Yes there has.
Oct 10 16:45:02 <Eisenhower34>	which won? pirate? obsi? hashking?
Oct 10 16:45:06 <Doffx>	If you kept them in your bitcoin wallet its a great placce.
Oct 10 16:45:08 <Doffx>	:)
Oct 10 16:45:12 <rdponticelli>	I'm afraid about what Doffx is about to say
Oct 10 16:45:12 <Eisenhower34>	usagi? any mining bond?
Oct 10 16:45:27 <chmod755>	Eisenhower34, alpaca socks
Oct 10 16:45:32 <Eisenhower34>	^^
Oct 10 16:45:42 <Eisenhower34>	always a good investment in fall :)
Oct 10 16:46:13 <chmod755>	just a few weeks and it's winter in the northern hemisphere
Oct 10 16:46:19 <Doffx>	I have all 20 coins that didnt leave my wallet.
Oct 10 16:46:23 <chmod755>	value of socks goes up
Oct 10 16:46:25 <chmod755>	lol
Oct 10 16:46:44 <jcpham>	i'm up to like 4 bitcoins now
Oct 10 16:46:55 <Eisenhower34>	guyys you are rich ....
Oct 10 16:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3546 @ 0.00031093 = 1.1026 BTC [-]
Oct 10 16:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40400 @ 0.00031066 = 12.5507 BTC [-]
Oct 10 16:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9654 @ 0.00031028 = 2.9954 BTC [-]
Oct 10 16:47:04 <jcpham>	gettin mad paid
Oct 10 16:47:16 <Eisenhower34>	why are those even allowed to talk in here? riight we dont have ay regulations for that :P
Oct 10 16:47:17 <pigeons>	http://szabo.best.vwh.net/jointstock.html
Oct 10 16:47:36 <chmod755>	20 coins = rich?
Oct 10 16:47:42 <jcpham>	super rich
Oct 10 16:47:50 <Eisenhower34>	icredible mega rich!
Oct 10 16:47:51 <chmod755>	YAY I'M RICH
Oct 10 16:48:13 <Eisenhower34>	i sold all of those remaining coins atm
Oct 10 16:48:22 <chmod755>	i have billions of satoshis
Oct 10 16:48:51 <jcpham>	billions?
Oct 10 16:49:05 <chmod755>	wait...
Oct 10 16:49:09 *	chmod755 checks
Oct 10 16:49:10 <jcpham>	IMPOSSIBRU
Oct 10 16:49:30 <BTC-Mining>	I got hundred billions of em damn satoshis
Oct 10 16:49:44 <chmod755>	fuck you Bit Gates
Oct 10 16:50:48 <BTC-Mining>	I'm aiming for the 10 trillion (100 000 BTC) satoshis mark
Oct 10 16:51:21 <BTC-Mining>	1/210th of all bitcoins
Oct 10 16:51:30 <chmod755>	BTC-Mining, you don't need 100k BTC
Oct 10 16:51:56 <BTC-Mining>	Blasphemy!
Oct 10 16:52:12 <chmod755>	 /join #OccupyBTC-Mining
Oct 10 16:53:08 <BTC-Mining>	Argh, virtual militia! They're squatting my interwebs! Look at their pixely signs!
Oct 10 16:53:35 <BTC-Mining>	There's even a few violent ones corrupting my bits!
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Oct 10 16:55:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39194 @ 0.00031355 = 12.2893 BTC [+]
Oct 10 16:57:44 <jcpham>	http://fudr.us/
Oct 10 16:57:51 <jcpham>	don't know what it is
Oct 10 16:57:59 <jcpham>	can't answer any question about it
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Oct 10 17:11:40 <smickles>	jcpham: I can
Oct 10 17:11:49 <smickles>	danieldaniel
Oct 10 17:11:59 <smickles>	that's all anyone needs to know
Oct 10 17:14:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 4 @ 0.09250713 = 0.37 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 17:31:33 <Diablo-D3>	you know what we need?
Oct 10 17:31:55 <Diablo-D3>	virtual militaries
Oct 10 17:32:13 <Diablo-D3>	so we can declare war on other websites and then show up at their workplace with a tank.
Oct 10 17:32:15 <smickles>	what would a virtual military be composed of Diablo-D3 ?
Oct 10 17:32:40 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: ^.
Oct 10 17:32:55 <smickles>	so a tank for hire, eh?
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Oct 10 17:37:25 <Ukto>	any more news since earlier?
Oct 10 17:40:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35972 @ 0.00031192 = 11.2204 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 17:43:10 <smickles>	alright, it seems that the total red tape fees will be 75 usd
Oct 10 17:43:21 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 10 17:43:25 <gribble>	12.01
Oct 10 17:44:27 <smickles>	;;sell 6.25 BTC at 12 USD each
Oct 10 17:44:27 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book.
Oct 10 17:44:42 <smickles>	grr, i often have to reauth
Oct 10 17:45:45 <smickles>	;;sell 6.25 BTC at 12 USD each
Oct 10 17:45:45 <gribble>	Order id 10690 created.
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Oct 10 17:50:32 <jcpham>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117590.0
Oct 10 17:50:38 <jcpham>	so relative to this channel
Oct 10 18:00:00 <BTC-Mining>	.....
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Oct 10 18:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16980 @ 0.00031355 = 5.3241 BTC [+]
Oct 10 18:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3620 @ 0.00031365 = 1.1354 BTC [+]
Oct 10 18:10:44 <dub>	why does kludge not have scammer tag?
Oct 10 18:11:03 <rdponticelli>	Nobody asked?
Oct 10 18:11:50 <rdponticelli>	Anyway, he defaulted, but I don't think he's a scammer
Oct 10 18:12:15 <rdponticelli>	He's trying to repay, and has been truthful
Oct 10 18:12:57 <BTC-Mining>	because I think it was in his terms that in case of default, he'd pay back on mining or something like that.
Oct 10 18:13:09 <BTC-Mining>	Except repayment by mining would take years.
Oct 10 18:13:29 <BTC-Mining>	But there was no timespan defined for repayment
Oct 10 18:13:46 <BTC-Mining>	So as such... well he can take his time repaying
Oct 10 18:13:50 <BTC-Mining>	Something like that
Oct 10 18:19:59 *	darkee| is now known as darkee
Oct 10 18:23:35 <dub>	jcpham: pics of raritys neice tbh
Oct 10 18:26:25 <rdponticelli>	Wow, now Bitcoins Direct is closed
Oct 10 18:26:47 <rdponticelli>	There would be anything standing?
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Oct 10 18:28:12 <rdponticelli>	He talks about law enforcement...
Oct 10 18:28:27 <rdponticelli>	Doesn't look good
Oct 10 18:29:10 <rdponticelli>	Well, about cooperating with law enforcement, wich implies that law enforcement is involved
Oct 10 18:29:48 <kakobrekla>	what is bitcoins direct
Oct 10 18:30:23 <kakobrekla>	a tangible
Oct 10 18:30:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23279 @ 0.00031365 = 7.3015 BTC [+]
Oct 10 18:30:51 <rdponticelli>	TangibleCryptography's business
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Oct 10 18:50:11 <dub>	one sleep till pirate pays out
Oct 10 18:50:51 <rdponticelli>	lol
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Oct 10 18:54:45 <Azelphur>	2 sleeps here
Oct 10 18:54:58 <Azelphur>	also inb4 more delaying tactics
Oct 10 18:55:01 <BTC-Mining>	It's always 1 sleep...
Oct 10 18:55:06 <BTC-Mining>	Forever
Oct 10 18:55:08 <rdponticelli>	It will be a long, long night
Oct 10 18:55:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30628 @ 0.00031301 = 9.5869 BTC [-]
Oct 10 18:55:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30346 @ 0.00031028 = 9.4158 BTC [-]
Oct 10 18:55:32 <BTC-Mining>	Welcome to Groundhog Day
Oct 10 18:55:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15126 @ 0.0003101 = 4.6906 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 18:56:13 <BTC-Mining>	You have to relive the day until you manage to get Pirateat40 to pay. Because payment is always tomorrow until then.
Oct 10 18:56:24 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, I'm sure that bitcoin script has been shooted by Harold Raimis
Oct 10 18:57:09 <rdponticelli>	Nice thing is that you can kill yourself as many times as you like in the middle
Oct 10 18:57:19 <rdponticelli>	Everything just start over again
Oct 10 18:57:21 <rdponticelli>	xD
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Oct 10 19:06:58 <rdponticelli>	GLBSE's up again
Oct 10 19:07:30 <rdponticelli>	My claim's finished
Oct 10 19:07:59 <rdponticelli>	Even when I haven't send aml information
Oct 10 19:08:11 <kakobrekla>	same here
Oct 10 19:09:16 <BTC-Mining>	I sent AML, claim appears finished.
Oct 10 19:09:29 <BTC-Mining>	Maybe nefario decided AML was not required...
Oct 10 19:13:43 <rdponticelli>	Seem so
Oct 10 19:13:55 <rdponticelli>	And it's logical
Oct 10 19:14:17 <BTC-Mining>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdEN2dzFuSEtVOWdlTmwyR2VJZkxiX1E
Oct 10 19:14:38 <BTC-Mining>	Yeah, better get prepared for accounting without GLBSE
Oct 10 19:14:48 <rdponticelli>	I already did
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Oct 10 19:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46900 @ 0.00031365 = 14.7102 BTC [+]
Oct 10 19:20:54 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Oct 10 19:21:02 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 202732 | Current Difficulty: timed out | Next Difficulty At Block: 203615 | Next Difficulty In: 883 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3035559.56035946 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.624232133735
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Oct 10 19:31:41 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 10 19:31:42 <gribble>	Best bid: 12.0008, Best ask: 12.08, Bid-ask spread: 0.07920, Last trade: 12.0008, 24 hour volume: 27614, 24 hour low: 11.759, 24 hour high: 12.19
Oct 10 19:31:45 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 10 19:31:46 <gribble>	12.03
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Oct 10 19:42:23 <smickles>	yeah, docs not required now
Oct 10 19:42:36 <smickles>	i just did the s2cm account, no docs
Oct 10 19:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1827 @ 0.00031365 = 0.573 BTC [+]
Oct 10 19:46:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10373 @ 0.00031413 = 3.2585 BTC [+]
Oct 10 19:47:41 <pigeons>	of so nefario took his meds
Oct 10 19:48:41 <Azelphur>	yay
Oct 10 19:48:44 <Azelphur>	apparently my claim is finished
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Oct 10 19:49:13 <Azelphur>	</crisis>
Oct 10 19:49:29 <Azelphur>	smickles: did you get S2CM data yet?
Oct 10 19:49:52 <smickles>	Azelphur: no data yet
Oct 10 19:49:57 <Azelphur>	:p
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Oct 10 19:50:19 <Azelphur>	would be funny if everything pays out on friday
Oct 10 19:50:20 <Azelphur>	cash day \o/
Oct 10 19:54:17 <Doffx>	Since its my birthday on oct 12 I expect everyone in here to send 1 btc, that will be 7 more btc than what pirate owes me with 116 people in here.
Oct 10 19:54:31 <Doffx>	Azelphur should send 2
Oct 10 19:54:42 <Doffx>	cash day for sure that way :)
Oct 10 19:54:49 <Azelphur>	xD
Oct 10 19:54:54 <Doffx>	haha
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Oct 10 20:01:00 <smickles>	huh, he left w/o giving a receiving addy
Oct 10 20:01:17 <Azelphur>	lol
Oct 10 20:01:26 <smickles>	;D
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Oct 10 20:04:12 <smickles>	wait a tic, mutum sigilum is an EVE ONLINE corp?
Oct 10 20:04:35 <smickles>	with a description of "FOR THE LULZ"
Oct 10 20:04:46 <smickles>	http://evewho.com/corp/Mutum+Sigillum+LLC
Oct 10 20:07:05 *	pigeons initiates dwolla transfer
Oct 10 20:08:49 <smickles>	you know what this means?
Oct 10 20:09:05 <smickles>	bitcoin is a MMORPG, just like mircea_popescu said
Oct 10 20:09:39 <kakobrekla>	:)
Oct 10 20:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10427 @ 0.00031413 = 3.2754 BTC [+]
Oct 10 20:11:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11152 @ 0.00031421 = 3.5041 BTC [+]
Oct 10 20:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10842 @ 0.00031433 = 3.408 BTC [+]
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Oct 10 20:37:38 <smickles>	i need a favor. can someone send 6.25 btc to an addy for me, I'll repay you tomorrow
Oct 10 20:37:50 <kakobrekla>	addy?
Oct 10 20:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10423 @ 0.00031167 = 3.2485 BTC [-]
Oct 10 20:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7677 @ 0.00031075 = 2.3856 BTC [-]
Oct 10 20:38:11 <smickles>	13bVm9NuHhYASYyXcbYHLqmfQeZ2XSaD7u
Oct 10 20:38:33 <kakobrekla>	sent
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Oct 10 20:38:45 <smickles>	my client went silly, and I think i need to reload the chain to fix it
Oct 10 20:38:52 <smickles>	that'll take a while
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Oct 10 20:38:59 <smickles>	Thank you kakobrekla :)
Oct 10 20:39:06 <kakobrekla>	yw
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Oct 10 21:04:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5223 @ 0.00031075 = 1.623 BTC [-]
Oct 10 21:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00031048 = 3.0427 BTC [-]
Oct 10 21:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25777 @ 0.00031028 = 7.9981 BTC [-]
Oct 10 21:05:34 <dub>	pirate pays out tomorrow, smickles pays out tomorrow.... coincidence?
Oct 10 21:06:30 <kakobrekla>	kakobrekla gets paid tomorrow!
Oct 10 21:06:35 <dub>	occams razor, kekeke
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Oct 10 21:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21023 @ 0.00031028 = 6.523 BTC [-]
Oct 10 21:29:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36677 @ 0.0003101 = 11.3735 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 21:33:00 <thestringpuller>	;;eauth thestringpuller
Oct 10 21:33:01 <gribble>	Request successful for user thestringpuller, hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/0FF2943DA179E169
Oct 10 21:33:54 <thestringpuller>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:cca7968273a95c153fb1b5cd24c5fb449204644a24fbfcaa0a2f90cc
Oct 10 21:33:55 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user thestringpuller with key 0FF2943DA179E169
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Oct 10 21:34:52 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating thestringpuller
Oct 10 21:34:52 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net .
Oct 10 21:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	soo what's new
Oct 10 21:44:00 <thestringpuller>	how much of your day do you spend on irc mp (that's my nickname for you mircea_popescu)
Oct 10 21:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	you're not the only one calling me mp lol. and as long as the computer's on i have irc going.
Oct 10 21:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	i don't spend that much on it personally.
Oct 10 21:45:25 <thestringpuller>	do you code?
Oct 10 21:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	not really./
Oct 10 21:46:24 <thestringpuller>	I used the campus labs to make a test FPGA
Oct 10 21:46:30 <thestringpuller>	since everyone is doing it
Oct 10 21:46:33 <thestringpuller>	:P
Oct 10 21:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	and ?
Oct 10 21:46:46 <thestringpuller>	It's tough I just started writing the verilog based on a paper I read
Oct 10 21:46:53 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: wrong question
Oct 10 21:47:00 <rdponticelli>	It's not what's new, but what's left
Oct 10 21:47:01 <thestringpuller>	gonna take months with my professor helping to get a single "chip"
Oct 10 21:47:19 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli so what is left ?
Oct 10 21:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller still, good practice for you i'd say.
Oct 10 21:47:48 <rdponticelli>	Nothing
Oct 10 21:48:00 <thestringpuller>	Uses a lot less power.
Oct 10 21:48:20 <thestringpuller>	what's left is not glbse lol
Oct 10 21:48:32 <thestringpuller>	I made a good deal of money on the market crash :P
Oct 10 21:48:54 <mircea_popescu>	how exactly ?
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Oct 10 21:49:43 <thestringpuller>	The second glbse went under I sold a bunch of bitcoins, then waited and bought them back at a cheaper price...
Oct 10 21:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117715.msg1263447#msg1263447 cyeck this out tho
Oct 10 21:52:02 <thestringpuller>	lol poor glbse
Oct 10 21:52:58 <thestringpuller>	You've probably been asked this many times before mp, but how does GLBSE being shutdown make you feel?
Oct 10 21:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller well, tbh, relieved. it was the main threat to having a btc finacials market. the longer it dragged on the worse it was.
Oct 10 21:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	course, sucks for all the people who wouldn't listen / knew better / whatever.
Oct 10 21:54:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00031091 = 9.1408 BTC [+]
Oct 10 21:54:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34425 @ 0.00031207 = 10.743 BTC [+]
Oct 10 21:56:11 <BTC-Mining>	Hey... GLBSE was the best trading platform (not for investing, for making trades)
Oct 10 21:56:29 <BTC-Mining>	I was getting almost pirate rates without the pirate stocks.
Oct 10 21:56:43 <BTC-Mining>	That's just how wild prices were
Oct 10 21:56:47 <thestringpuller>	that's cause people don't know how to trade.
Oct 10 21:56:54 <BTC-Mining>	quite
Oct 10 21:57:04 <BTC-Mining>	Made thousands
Oct 10 21:57:09 <thestringpuller>	Probably why Satoshi dice is listed on mpex
Oct 10 21:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining that'd be part of the problem, really.
Oct 10 21:57:31 <BTC-Mining>	My wallet didn't find it to be a problem at all.
Oct 10 21:57:48 <thestringpuller>	only gigamining had a solid trade trend
Oct 10 21:58:01 <thestringpuller>	it wasn't volatile
Oct 10 21:58:11 <bitcoinbear>	so, have glbse asse holders heard anything yet?
Oct 10 21:58:11 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. if you go to the casino and make a lot of money your wallet might not complain
Oct 10 21:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	but that doesn't make casinoing an economic activity.
Oct 10 21:58:21 <bitcoinbear>	asset, i mean
Oct 10 21:58:39 <thestringpuller>	tell that to the kids from MIT who counted cards
Oct 10 21:58:51 <mircea_popescu>	right. from a macro perspective the thing was harmful.
Oct 10 21:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise, im sure plenty of people made money bilking the idiots who thought they're investors.
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Oct 10 21:59:41 <bitcoinbear>	him trading helps decrease the spread (somewhat), making the market more stable
Oct 10 21:59:43 <thestringpuller>	I lost 20 btc, but I've been mining with free electricity, so it's a drop
Oct 10 22:00:07 <BTC-Mining>	It's not casinoing if the asset has a base value through profit sharing. The wild price fluctuations just make it much easier to buy below market value and resell it far above market value.
Oct 10 22:00:17 <thestringpuller>	for something that didn't have a lot of market depth, GLBSE had a sizable volume of outstanding shares.
Oct 10 22:00:49 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, quite
Oct 10 22:01:07 <BTC-Mining>	Most shares sold and weren't trading much afterward
Oct 10 22:01:10 <thestringpuller>	BTC-Mining isn't that how market makers make their money, via the bid-ask spread?
Oct 10 22:01:30 <BTC-Mining>	I suppose
Oct 10 22:02:04 <bitcoinbear>	and on some assets the spread was 50%
Oct 10 22:02:17 <bitcoinbear>	or more
Oct 10 22:02:20 <BTC-Mining>	when the bid-ask spread is 10% - 80% and the trading fee is 0.5% but only for the one selling/buying into orders...
Oct 10 22:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	actually, take mpoe.etf. a DAY before it being unwound (at like 1.2x)
Oct 10 22:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	the bid was .3 the ask 1.5 or so.
Oct 10 22:02:51 <bitcoinbear>	right
Oct 10 22:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	one of the precious few solvent assets there.
Oct 10 22:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	so not for a second do i consider that "market" in any way related to any economics.
Oct 10 22:03:05 <mircea_popescu>	it was pure randomness.
Oct 10 22:03:27 <bitcoinbear>	but you could make money off the randomness
Oct 10 22:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	had nothing to do with btc finance, or finance at all.
Oct 10 22:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	the continuing pretense that it did however, was very harmful for everyone.
Oct 10 22:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	no dispute you can make mone yat the casino
Oct 10 22:03:54 <bitcoinbear>	like nefario said, it was meant to be a toy
Oct 10 22:03:58 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 10 22:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	thinking going to the casino = participating in the economy is damaging.
Oct 10 22:04:02 <thestringpuller>	Nefario is a dick.
Oct 10 22:04:10 <thestringpuller>	Who is now scared of going to jail.
Oct 10 22:04:20 <thestringpuller>	I feel we get the last laugh somehow.
Oct 10 22:04:34 <thestringpuller>	Even though the joke is on the issuers...
Oct 10 22:04:49 <bitcoinbear>	I wish he would move faster so we could just be done with the whole thing
Oct 10 22:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoinbear bitcoinica first,
Oct 10 22:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	then glbse.
Oct 10 22:06:03 <BTC-Mining>	mircea, that's exactly the point, it's not casino odds if a mining asset pays for x each week but the randomness makes it go 50% under the market rate per mhash then a few days later 50% over market rate.
Oct 10 22:06:11 <thestringpuller>	Don't casinos make a lot of money mircea_popescu? Like Las Vegas for instance, the Bellagio just rakes in money.
Oct 10 22:06:20 <thestringpuller>	Wouldn't running a casino contribute to the economy?
Oct 10 22:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller actually these days casinos are doing very poorly.
Oct 10 22:06:35 <thestringpuller>	o rly?
Oct 10 22:06:36 <bitcoinbear>	anybody want to buy 10 BDK.BND shares at the low price of 0.08?
Oct 10 22:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Oct 10 22:06:38 <thestringpuller>	tough times
Oct 10 22:06:45 <thestringpuller>	but isn't satoshi dice doing well?
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Oct 10 22:06:49 <thestringpuller>	that's "casinoing"
Oct 10 22:06:55 <mircea_popescu>	bad 3 or so years. if it keeps up you'll see bankruptcies
Oct 10 22:07:01 <BTC-Mining>	I'd buy them for 0.0001 BTC each...
Oct 10 22:07:04 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller playing satoshidice isn't investing tho.
Oct 10 22:07:11 <mircea_popescu>	buying their shares is entirely a diff game.
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Oct 10 22:08:02 <thestringpuller>	I see what you are saying.
Oct 10 22:08:03 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 10 22:08:31 <rdponticelli>	I'll outbid BTC-Mining: 0.00011
Oct 10 22:08:50 <thestringpuller>	I don't know if you've ever seen the Chappelle Show, but there was an episode where this guy came into a lot of money, played a dice game, and won, so he had tons of money.
Oct 10 22:08:57 <rdponticelli>	:D
Oct 10 22:09:08 <BTC-Mining>	0.00011001 here!
Oct 10 22:09:17 <BTC-Mining>	Damn, feels like good old GLBSE
Oct 10 22:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Oct 10 22:10:07 <thestringpuller>	Like if you won the lottery, then put it all on double 0 at the casino and won again. But then again I guess it's all "casinoing"
Oct 10 22:10:16 <rdponticelli>	We can do it here! Lets go!
Oct 10 22:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Oct 10 22:12:03 <thestringpuller>	How will coinlab compete against the asic rush?
Oct 10 22:12:14 <bitcoinbear>	btc-mining, was it you who was always outbidding me by a single satoshi? drove me nuts
Oct 10 22:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller why'd they compete ?
Oct 10 22:13:07 <BTC-Mining>	I kept outbidding by one satoshi and people kept outbidding me by one satoshi, I was going nuts making people go nuts.
Oct 10 22:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	with those 2 second page loads...
Oct 10 22:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you folks just need some better masturbation material.
Oct 10 22:13:43 <bitcoinbear>	I refused to bid out more than 4 significant digits
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Oct 10 22:14:36 <bitcoinbear>	page loads, 2 sec if you were lucky. it made me feel like I was back in 1993 or something
Oct 10 22:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	a well. as long as it was working for ya lol
Oct 10 22:15:42 <BTC-Mining>	It was due to GLBSE being quite spread up
Oct 10 22:16:00 <smickles>	< dub> pirate pays out tomorrow, smickles pays out tomorrow.... coincidence? <<<  lolwut?
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Oct 10 22:18:41 <smickles>	also, most of my stuff isn't here yet, i'm using a stepstool with a couple of rags for padding as my seat
Oct 10 22:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	haha suffer.
Oct 10 22:20:47 <smickles>	and this is where my accounting company will start
Oct 10 22:20:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2251 @ 0.00031207 = 0.7025 BTC [+]
Oct 10 22:20:59 <smickles>	from rags to riches :D
Oct 10 22:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	haha gl!
Oct 10 22:21:45 <rdponticelli>	Where are you ipoing, smickles?
Oct 10 22:21:52 <rdponticelli>	:)
Oct 10 22:22:07 <smickles>	heh, not a public company ;)
Oct 10 22:22:19 <rdponticelli>	:(
Oct 10 22:22:45 <rdponticelli>	That's not fun
Oct 10 22:22:55 <smickles>	i sold some btc earlier to pay licensing and registration fees
Oct 10 22:23:02 <rdponticelli>	You're supposed to raise a ton of money and run away
Oct 10 22:23:18 <rdponticelli>	You're doing it all wrong
Oct 10 22:23:22 <smickles>	rdponticelli: if i need to raise funds, you'll be the first one i make an offer to, m'kay?
Oct 10 22:23:34 <[\\\]>	aww
Oct 10 22:23:36 <[\\\]>	I'm hurt
Oct 10 22:23:45 <rdponticelli>	Ok, I'm happy now
Oct 10 22:24:28 <[\\\]>	;;ticker
Oct 10 22:24:29 <gribble>	Best bid: 12.00104, Best ask: 12.05, Bid-ask spread: 0.04896, Last trade: 12.05, 24 hour volume: 27195, 24 hour low: 11.8029, 24 hour high: 12.19
Oct 10 22:24:31 <[\\\]>	we're at 12
Oct 10 22:24:32 <[\\\]>	woo
Oct 10 22:24:40 <[\\\]>	c'mon $2.00 btc
Oct 10 22:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	o hey.
Oct 10 22:24:59 <smickles>	[\\\]: did you miss us at sub-11 earlier?
Oct 10 22:25:27 <[\\\]>	no
Oct 10 22:25:48 <[\\\]>	but if it drops to $2, I'm gonna buy 50k btc
Oct 10 22:27:55 *	smickles imagines [\\\] makeing cash advances on a dozen credit cards while they process his title loan
Oct 10 22:29:02 <[\\\]>	That's what the AMEX is for
Oct 10 22:29:30 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: doesnt work anymore
Oct 10 22:29:55 <Diablo-D3>	banks maliciously reverse loans within a week after they credit check you a second time
Oct 10 22:30:21 <[\\\]>	thats why you wait 3 weeks
Oct 10 22:30:22 <Diablo-D3>	they claim "to prevent fraud", but the only fraud going on is their actions since they already signed the papers
Oct 10 22:30:22 <[\\\]>	:-x
Oct 10 22:30:45 <Diablo-D3>	Ive heard of banks doing it after 3 MONTHS
Oct 10 22:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it was 10.7 or so
Oct 10 22:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 prolly a pretty penny to be made from sueing then
Oct 10 22:32:41 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: sometimes
Oct 10 22:32:46 <Diablo-D3>	sometimes you have judges going along with it
Oct 10 22:32:55 <Diablo-D3>	not sure if they're just inept or they're in the bank's pocket
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Oct 10 22:39:09 <mircea_popescu>	Chaos - Battle of the Wizards
Oct 10 22:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	anyone ever played that ?
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Oct 10 22:44:30 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: is that the one that is similar to wherewolf?
Oct 10 22:44:38 <Diablo-D3>	YES
Oct 10 22:44:39 <smickles>	er, spelling bad
Oct 10 22:44:39 <Diablo-D3>	I FOUND A GIF
Oct 10 22:44:42 <Diablo-D3>	THAT DESCRIBES
Oct 10 22:44:46 <Diablo-D3>	THE NEFARIO DRAMAS
Oct 10 22:44:54 <Diablo-D3>	us, and I'm clearly kirk: http://i.imgur.com/oafQx.gif
Oct 10 22:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1249 @ 0.00031242 = 0.3902 BTC [+]
Oct 10 22:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	smickles http://www.mykeblack.com/flash/chaos/chaos_content.html
Oct 10 22:46:41 <Diablo-D3>	http://imgur.com/gallery/JJaLA
Oct 10 22:46:44 <Diablo-D3>	oh god I want one
Oct 10 22:46:46 <Diablo-D3>	just so I can make it talk
Oct 10 22:47:06 <Diablo-D3>	oh fuck comments already go straight to south park
Oct 10 22:50:22 <Diablo-D3>	http://imgur.com/gallery/M7nOu
Oct 10 22:50:29 <Diablo-D3>	HUH
Oct 10 22:53:40 <smickles>	oh my connection is so slow
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Oct 10 23:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21473 @ 0.00031079 = 6.6736 BTC [-]
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Oct 10 23:19:05 <dub>	Diablo-D3: remake a movie with it
Oct 10 23:19:39 <Diablo-D3>	oh fuck
Oct 10 23:19:44 <Diablo-D3>	NO!
Oct 10 23:19:46 <Diablo-D3>	I MUST BE TAKING OVER WORLD!
Oct 10 23:22:11 <dub>	gak, I want to shoot thos imgur commenters more that I want to shoot everyone on btctalk
Oct 10 23:22:28 <Diablo-D3>	http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com
Oct 10 23:23:07 <dub>	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mabnf0OQNA1rrf1eeo1_500.jpg gigavps?
Oct 10 23:23:31 <Diablo-D3>	sometimes I wonder
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Oct 10 23:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25227 @ 0.00031079 = 7.8403 BTC [-]
Oct 10 23:36:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10373 @ 0.0003101 = 3.2167 BTC [-]
Oct 10 23:44:35 <Ukto>	so did nefario open things up ?
Oct 10 23:45:37 <smickles>	not toomany hours ago
Oct 10 23:46:11 <Ukto>	still didnt enable password recovery though :/
Oct 10 23:46:24 <dub>	dont forget your password
Oct 10 23:46:55 <Ukto>	i havent logged in since my account was emptied from the "hack" in may
Oct 10 23:49:36 <dub>	dont get hacked
Oct 10 23:49:47 <Ukto>	i somehow dont think I was :P
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Oct 11 00:02:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23235 @ 0.0003101 = 7.2052 BTC [-]
Oct 11 00:02:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7832 @ 0.0003101 = 2.4287 BTC [-]
Oct 11 00:02:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00031008 = 0.4031 BTC [-]
Oct 11 00:02:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29233 @ 0.00031 = 9.0622 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 00:07:18 <Diablo-D3>	so how do you get your "assets"
Oct 11 00:07:25 <smickles>	omg, i'm rocking a 128k connection
Oct 11 00:07:32 <smickles>	(bits)
Oct 11 00:09:37 <smickles>	lol, for the fun of it, i fired up cgminer and pointed it at my client,
Oct 11 00:09:53 <Ukto>	smickles: a hotel I stayed in Japan last april, was still on an ISDN modem
Oct 11 00:10:00 <Ukto>	that was about 12yrs old
Oct 11 00:10:20 <smickles>	it said "Accepted c5b1c47c.155918dc" and for a moment, my heart raced as i thought i hit a block
Oct 11 00:10:33 <smickles>	Ukto: oh my
Oct 11 00:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67796 @ 0.00031017 = 21.0283 BTC [+]
Oct 11 00:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8804 @ 0.0003109 = 2.7372 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 00:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 500 @ 0.00320653 = 1.6033 BTC [+]
Oct 11 00:53:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 35 @ 0.00316891 = 0.1109 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 01:11:38 <da2ce7>	New Version of Moneychanger and ot prompt for windows: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77301.80  Please help test and report any issues.
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Oct 11 01:17:01 <mircea_popescu>	ok, so here's some data :
Oct 11 01:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	From 4/2/2012 to 10/4/2012:
Oct 11 01:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	187 contract listings
Oct 11 01:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	66519 total trades
Oct 11 01:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	6006474 total contract volume
Oct 11 01:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	35911.75164BTC total volume
Oct 11 01:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	sauce : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117491.msg1260596#msg1260596
Oct 11 01:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	so glbse traded 36k btc in 6 months.
Oct 11 01:18:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.0003109 = 10.3841 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 01:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00031046 = 2.2974 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 02:09:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1350 @ 0.0003109 = 0.4197 BTC [+]
Oct 11 02:09:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 135 @ 0.0032 = 0.432 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 02:34:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24397 @ 0.0003109 = 7.585 BTC [+]
Oct 11 02:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26203 @ 0.00031282 = 8.1968 BTC [+]
Oct 11 02:47:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 2 @ 0.23231876 = 0.4646 BTC [-]
Oct 11 02:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1 @ 0.23049622 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 02:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 150 @ 0.00076466 = 0.1147 BTC [-]
Oct 11 03:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120N] 2 @ 0.23654313 = 0.4731 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 03:31:34 <BTC-Mining>	[01:17] <mircea_popescu> 35911.75164BTC total volume
Oct 11 03:32:11 <BTC-Mining>	Sounds awfully wrong since GIGAMINING alone sold 40k bonds at 1 BTC or more and had like twice that volume.
Oct 11 03:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00031046 = 7.7925 BTC [-]
Oct 11 03:34:00 <BTC-Mining>	2823.6BTC total revenue from trading fees
Oct 11 03:34:14 <BTC-Mining>	x 200 is over 500k trading volume
Oct 11 03:34:26 <BTC-Mining>	I remember calculating it as higher than that however.
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Oct 11 03:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5976 @ 0.00031149 = 1.8615 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 05:15:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00031032 = 11.5749 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 05:25:15 <jurov>	morning
Oct 11 05:26:45 <jurov>	coinbr was updated, check it.. just few kinks to iron and we can do official announcement
Oct 11 05:26:58 <jurov>	but referrals are already working
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Oct 11 05:29:05 <FabianB>	jurov: cool :), will check later after work
Oct 11 05:36:19 <jurov>	see you later
Oct 11 05:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2567 @ 0.00030994 = 0.7956 BTC [-]
Oct 11 05:41:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11633 @ 0.00030992 = 3.6053 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 07:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00031036 = 10.9557 BTC [+]
Oct 11 07:25:11 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc had some epic volume today
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Oct 11 07:34:10 <Chaang-Noi>	this chan is dead...
Oct 11 07:35:31 <FabianB>	just less scammer talk
Oct 11 07:37:05 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Oct 11 07:37:19 <kakobrekla>	less chick fights
Oct 11 07:37:55 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Oct 11 07:38:00 <Chaang-Noi>	where is usagi?
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Oct 11 07:48:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00031079 = 2.8282 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 07:52:12 <Chaang-Noi>	is glbse still collecting aml docs?
Oct 11 07:54:25 <kakobrekla>	no
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Oct 11 08:07:48 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: it proved to be too technically challenging
Oct 11 08:08:00 <Chaang-Noi>	are you kidding?
Oct 11 08:08:11 <copumpkin>	I dunno, all I know is that for a while he had a form up and then he took it down
Oct 11 08:08:17 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 11 08:08:26 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess it was not a legal demand after all
Oct 11 08:08:37 <copumpkin>	he's so sketchy :P
Oct 11 08:08:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder what is going on in his head right now...
Oct 11 08:09:03 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah...
Oct 11 08:09:20 <Chaang-Noi>	what a mess
Oct 11 08:09:43 <Chaang-Noi>	also i wonder what the SEC will do now that glbse closed down
Oct 11 08:09:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder if they will still go after them or just walk away
Oct 11 08:10:31 <copumpkin>	"yeah, sure, you were hacking up kidnapped hookers for years before, but you appear to have stopped, so I guess you're good. Sorry for the unpleasant chase!"
Oct 11 08:10:34 <copumpkin>	:P
Oct 11 08:10:51 <copumpkin>	- no legal prosecutor ever
Oct 11 08:10:59 <copumpkin>	but who knows :)
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Oct 11 08:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.0003121 = 12.328 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 08:22:16 <Chaang-Noi>	well
Oct 11 08:22:25 <Chaang-Noi>	sometimes they act to stop an activity
Oct 11 08:22:36 <Chaang-Noi>	this is not always the case
Oct 11 08:23:04 <Chaang-Noi>	but glbse said they were wrong to be doing what they were doing, it just does not add that headline pop
Oct 11 08:23:12 <Chaang-Noi>	fed shut down already closed exchange...
Oct 11 08:23:18 <Chaang-Noi>	seems like a waste of tax payer money
Oct 11 08:23:35 <Chaang-Noi>	now if glbse was a terrorist operation sure...
Oct 11 08:23:48 <Chaang-Noi>	but trading btc and all that shit? its not going to be an easy case i bet
Oct 11 08:24:01 <copumpkin>	well, the crime was already committed, and they can claim that many people were defrauded as a result of the unregulated exchange operating for so long
Oct 11 08:24:11 <Chaang-Noi>	yes they can
Oct 11 08:24:13 <copumpkin>	due to all the fraudulent unregulated securities issued on it
Oct 11 08:24:18 <Chaang-Noi>	but my question is will tehy
Oct 11 08:24:53 <Chaang-Noi>	really this is a small thing
Oct 11 08:25:17 <Chaang-Noi>	and really the SEc going after this will make the right wing nuts in the usa take a hard look at btc and might even help it
Oct 11 08:25:33 <Chaang-Noi>	if the SEC is scared of BTC im bullish in BTC :)
Oct 11 08:27:36 <copumpkin>	:P
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Oct 11 08:28:40 <copumpkin>	"I'm against all forms of regulation and government control, except, OH SHIT, PEOPLE ARE BUYING IMMORAL THINGS WITH BITCOIN. WE MUST BANISH IT FROM THE EARTH AS GOD EXPECTS"
Oct 11 08:29:10 <copumpkin>	or, from the other side, "regulation is good, and we need to protect dumbasses from themselves. We must regulate bitcoin"
Oct 11 08:29:55 <copumpkin>	yay politics :)
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Oct 11 08:31:15 <copumpkin>	that's not to say I think one side is as good as the other, mind you
Oct 11 08:32:33 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Oct 11 08:32:40 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 11 08:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00031183 = 7.328 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 08:55:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 719 @ 0.20596839 = 148.0913 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 09:16:59 <iz>	copumpkin: do you think ppl should be able to run ponzi schemes and scam dumbasses out of hundreds of thousands of bitcoins?
Oct 11 09:17:18 <copumpkin>	what makes you think that?
Oct 11 09:17:22 <iz>	or do you think there should be regulation that protects dumbasses from themselves?
Oct 11 09:17:49 <MrTiggr>	BitcoinNannyState
Oct 11 09:17:51 <MrTiggr>	nothx
Oct 11 09:18:47 <iz>	running to the cops or the SEC to sue or get someone in trouble for scamming you out of BTC is using that regulation
Oct 11 09:19:41 <MrTiggr>	iz: do you think ppl should be able to run ponzi schemes and scam dumbasses out of hundreds of thousands of regular CASH?  .. bitcoin is the equivalent of cash  ... if you blilndly give it to the rong person ... its gone dude and its yer own fault
Oct 11 09:20:19 <MrTiggr>	people should treat bitcoin with the same scrutiny that they do for cash transactions
Oct 11 09:20:25 <iz>	no, people shouldn't be able to do that with cash, and that's why the SEC and regulatory agencies exist
Oct 11 09:20:30 <iz>	it's not the cash vs bitcoin
Oct 11 09:20:52 <iz>	it's regulated exchanges and investment companies, like with cash
Oct 11 09:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00031101 = 10.6054 BTC [-]
Oct 11 09:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26656 @ 0.00031079 = 8.2844 BTC [-]
Oct 11 09:21:05 <MrTiggr>	and by "Cash" i mean coins and notes
Oct 11 09:21:09 <MrTiggr>	SEC cant track that
Oct 11 09:21:11 <copumpkin>	MrTiggr: are you saying that "real-world" cases of fraud should not be prosecuted?
Oct 11 09:21:17 <MrTiggr>	no
Oct 11 09:21:19 <iz>	vs unregulated exchanget and investment companies, like with bitcoin, where most of them are scams
Oct 11 09:21:20 <copumpkin>	because the defrauded party was dumb enough to hand over his money?
Oct 11 09:21:27 <MrTiggr>	i am SPECIFICALLY comparing bitcoin to CASH
Oct 11 09:21:28 <MrTiggr>	coins/notes
Oct 11 09:21:32 <copumpkin>	that's irrelevant though
Oct 11 09:21:36 <copumpkin>	this is whether someone was defrauded or not
Oct 11 09:21:39 <MrTiggr>	no chargeback and not really very tracable
Oct 11 09:21:47 <copumpkin>	do you blame the victim of fraud on the victim?
Oct 11 09:21:48 <MrTiggr>	well
Oct 11 09:21:55 <MrTiggr>	not irrelevant
Oct 11 09:21:55 <copumpkin>	those are technical aspects
Oct 11 09:22:00 <copumpkin>	implementation details, you might say
Oct 11 09:22:04 <MrTiggr>	the next point i will make is
Oct 11 09:22:22 <MrTiggr>	we should provide bitcoiners with the tools to ensure that their "cash-like" transactions can be conducted with the best possible confidence
Oct 11 09:22:43 <iz>	it's not about transactions with scams though
Oct 11 09:22:45 <MrTiggr>	if my mate buys a TV from a stranger with cash and gets ripped
Oct 11 09:22:49 <MrTiggr>	im not gonna cry for him
Oct 11 09:22:58 <iz>	they are making the transactions intentionally
Oct 11 09:23:20 <MrTiggr>	the point i am making is that there is a level of responsibility that normal transactions are held to, which bitcoiners seem to think doesnt apply
Oct 11 09:23:22 <iz>	what if your grandma spends all of her retirement money buying a new spaceage TV that cooks dinner for her
Oct 11 09:23:33 <MrTiggr>	its sad
Oct 11 09:23:36 <MrTiggr>	but it happens
Oct 11 09:23:42 <MrTiggr>	in fact, happened to my grandpa
Oct 11 09:23:45 <MrTiggr>	i FEEL for him
Oct 11 09:23:51 <MrTiggr>	but he was stoopid enuf to do it
Oct 11 09:23:52 <iz>	should it be legal for a company to carry on business defrauding grandmas?
Oct 11 09:23:59 <MrTiggr>	not check who he qwas dealing with etc
Oct 11 09:24:06 <MrTiggr>	he shud learn his lesson
Oct 11 09:24:07 <iz>	who do you check with?
Oct 11 09:24:10 <copumpkin>	MrTiggr: what if a con artist lies his way into your building and takes money from your vault?
Oct 11 09:24:12 <iz>	if there is no regulatory agency
Oct 11 09:24:27 <iz>	how can you tell what is a real investment company.. and what is a scammy investment company?
Oct 11 09:24:29 <copumpkin>	is this purely about not using violence to obtain someone else's property?
Oct 11 09:24:47 <iz>	you just have to take their word for it
Oct 11 09:24:49 <copumpkin>	it seems you could make arguments about someone not being strong enough to resist robbers
Oct 11 09:24:52 <iz>	or the word on the street
Oct 11 09:24:54 <copumpkin>	and deserving it
Oct 11 09:25:14 <copumpkin>	in fact, I have seen gun advocates say that
Oct 11 09:25:16 <MrTiggr>	not as far as i am concerned - i equate bitcoin to cash ... im not giving my dollar bills to anyone i dont trust ... neither should a bitcoiner
Oct 11 09:25:26 <copumpkin>	this has nothing to do with cash
Oct 11 09:25:37 <copumpkin>	cash boils down to whether you can prove that you gave the money to the person
Oct 11 09:25:38 <iz>	MrTiggr: investments don't care how you give them the money
Oct 11 09:25:44 <copumpkin>	that's got little to do with the actual crime
Oct 11 09:25:47 <iz>	neither do scammers
Oct 11 09:25:47 <MrTiggr>	in the same breath - i personally do everything i can to help bitcoiners make the best decision about their trades
Oct 11 09:25:54 <MrTiggr>	(i AM  bitcoin-police after all)
Oct 11 09:25:58 <copumpkin>	whether bitcoin is equivalent to cash is completely irrelevant to the legality/morality of the issue
Oct 11 09:26:08 <iz>	MrTiggr: how do you know what is good and what is a scam?
Oct 11 09:26:11 <copumpkin>	it just determines how easy it is to prove that you gave it to them
Oct 11 09:26:13 <MrTiggr>	investments (like glbse .. which is what i imagine you are referring) are not the same thing
Oct 11 09:26:29 <MrTiggr>	iz ...i agree - its hard
Oct 11 09:26:38 <MrTiggr>	but its hard with "real cash" too
Oct 11 09:26:57 <iz>	yeah, that's like.. we're discussing if children should be able to drink alcohol or not, and you are like "well.. i think it all depends on if it's vodka or whiskey"
Oct 11 09:27:08 <MrTiggr>	lets not confuse casual -otc bitcoin trading with .. ponzi or other investment
Oct 11 09:27:37 <iz>	it doesn't matter if it's bitcoin or cash or pokemon cards
Oct 11 09:28:14 <iz>	an investment scam vs a real investment opportunity are hard to tell the difference between, without there being some sort of regulatory agency
Oct 11 09:28:17 <MrTiggr>	so... you are defending the people who blindly "invested" bitcoin in .. lets say for arguments sake .. a glbse stok .. with out checking who was managing the funds
Oct 11 09:28:21 <MrTiggr>	is that bitcoin's fault
Oct 11 09:28:23 <MrTiggr>	no
Oct 11 09:28:28 <iz>	it's not bitcoin's fault
Oct 11 09:28:30 <copumpkin>	nobody's claiming it is bitcoin's fault
Oct 11 09:28:41 <copumpkin>	that was never even a question
Oct 11 09:28:44 <iz>	but it happened because there is no regulatory agency
Oct 11 09:29:00 <MrTiggr>	it happened due to lack of consumer diligence imho
Oct 11 09:29:01 <iz>	and the reason that doesn't happen so much in the real USD markets
Oct 11 09:29:06 <iz>	is because of regulation
Oct 11 09:29:22 <MrTiggr>	"who is nefario" << first Qn id have asked myself if investing in any glbse stock
Oct 11 09:29:24 <copumpkin>	MrTiggr: just like I got robbed because I hadn't learned martial arts, or wasn't carrying a gun? it happened because an asshole defrauded you.
Oct 11 09:30:09 <iz>	do you think it should be okay for people to dress up like police officers and go around to people's houses
Oct 11 09:30:29 <iz>	and the people who don't call the main police office to check on the badge numbers to make sure they are real cops
Oct 11 09:30:30 <copumpkin>	"you should have called up the police office to make sure they had sent someone, before letting him in"
Oct 11 09:30:33 <copumpkin>	:)
Oct 11 09:30:35 <MrTiggr>	regulation i don thtink is the answer... i agree there is aproblem, but im kinda sick of bitcoiners blaming their own lack of due diligence on the "missing regulatory component" for which bitcoin was originally founded
Oct 11 09:30:37 <iz>	deserve the robbing they are going to get
Oct 11 09:30:54 <iz>	you are mistaken
Oct 11 09:30:56 <copumpkin>	I don't think bitcoin was originally founded "for" that
Oct 11 09:31:00 <copumpkin>	bitcoin is a protocol
Oct 11 09:31:02 <iz>	bitcoin wasn't founded for that
Oct 11 09:31:09 <MrTiggr>	De-Centralized currency is one of the core tennant of bitcoin
Oct 11 09:31:14 <copumpkin>	the protocol doesn't require regulation, but the people using it might
Oct 11 09:31:14 <MrTiggr>	regulation centralizes
Oct 11 09:31:16 <iz>	the problem are the bitcoin exchanges not being regulated
Oct 11 09:31:19 <copumpkin>	no it doesn't
Oct 11 09:31:22 <copumpkin>	this is silly
Oct 11 09:31:23 <iz>	not that bitcoin itself isn't regulated
Oct 11 09:31:23 <copumpkin>	:)
Oct 11 09:31:44 <MrTiggr>	<iz> the problem are the bitcoin exchanges not being regulated << how so ?? all the major exchanges are subject to AML etc
Oct 11 09:31:49 <iz>	how could you regulate cash against scams involving cash (besides counterfeiting)?
Oct 11 09:31:49 <MrTiggr>	seems regulated to me
Oct 11 09:31:58 <iz>	lol
Oct 11 09:32:03 <iz>	bitfloor
Oct 11 09:32:12 <iz>	tradehill
Oct 11 09:32:25 <iz>	they are just some random dude
Oct 11 09:32:37 <iz>	putting a website up on a VPS somewhere that he bought w/ bitcoins
Oct 11 09:32:38 <MrTiggr>	?? and they would have been raepd for not being AML compliant
Oct 11 09:33:21 <iz>	for trading real money
Oct 11 09:33:36 <iz>	only because they trade real money, and use the regulation that real money provides
Oct 11 09:33:52 <iz>	for bitcoin investment companies that DON'T deal in cash and only in bitcoins
Oct 11 09:34:00 <iz>	they don't have any regulations they need to follow at all
Oct 11 09:34:10 <MrTiggr>	true
Oct 11 09:34:17 <MrTiggr>	all the more reason for due diligence
Oct 11 09:34:28 <iz>	you're saying "no regulation to bitcoin" while touting that bitcoin exchanges are AML compliant..
Oct 11 09:34:34 <MrTiggr>	either you centralize and regulate or you dont
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Oct 11 09:34:50 <iz>	and the only reasons bitcoin exchanges are AML compliant is BECAUSE of the regulation of USD
Oct 11 09:34:55 <MrTiggr>	exchanges are not bitcoin ... they are a way out/in to bitcoin
Oct 11 09:35:02 <iz>	you don't need to centralize the mint to have regulation of exchanges
Oct 11 09:35:37 <MrTiggr>	if you are talking about regulation of exchanges, i have no problem with that
Oct 11 09:35:50 <iz>	all you need is a 3rd party regulatory agency that has a vested intrest in maintaining everyone's trust and not letting ppl break rules just because they got paid off
Oct 11 09:36:04 <iz>	also regulating bitcoin investment companies
Oct 11 09:36:14 <MrTiggr>	ooh thats "all you need"  .. so who we gonna trust on that
Oct 11 09:36:31 <MrTiggr>	sarcasm included - thats a real question
Oct 11 09:36:45 <iz>	like.. make sure they keep the offline wallet key used to store everyone's bitcoins secret and don't check it into git
Oct 11 09:37:15 <MrTiggr>	totally for that - thats not really regulation ... not in the true sense though ... its some form of compliance to a satandard
Oct 11 09:37:17 <iz>	MrTiggr: ever use SSL?  the CAs are exactly like that
Oct 11 09:37:35 <iz>	just companies that have a vested intrest in being secure authorities
Oct 11 09:37:38 <MrTiggr>	ok so we setup Bitcoin-Verisign then ?
Oct 11 09:37:45 <iz>	well, something like that
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Oct 11 09:37:48 <iz>	someone should
Oct 11 09:37:52 <MrTiggr>	not an entirely bad idea
Oct 11 09:37:55 <iz>	but i don't know if it would be profitable
Oct 11 09:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	iz that'd be mpex.
Oct 11 09:38:03 <MrTiggr>	i wudnt classify that as typical regulation though
Oct 11 09:38:06 <iz>	oh, nice
Oct 11 09:38:17 <iz>	yeah, i figured someone would try to do something like that
Oct 11 09:38:21 <MrTiggr>	and ++ mircea_popescu
Oct 11 09:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	course, people bitch and moan. but slowly & surely.
Oct 11 09:39:28 <iz>	okay breakfast time for me.. peace all
Oct 11 09:40:40 <MrTiggr>	peace bro! ...  don't hate my devil's-advocate hat oo much ... im kinda cranky today :P
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Oct 11 09:49:49 <Ukto>	*yawn* morning
Oct 11 09:49:57 <Ukto>	did nefario actually "give out" assets/btc yet?
Oct 11 09:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik
Oct 11 09:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 266 @ 0.25780139 = 68.5752 BTC [+]
Oct 11 09:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 183 @ 0.27932903 = 51.1172 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 10:00:09 <Ukto>	so lazy.
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Oct 11 10:01:38 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Oct 11 10:04:36 <Ukto>	morning goatman
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Oct 11 10:14:25 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
Oct 11 10:17:05 <zerokwel>	noticed glbse website has changed
Oct 11 10:17:50 <zerokwel>	meh only assets I had left there where pirate.. Will fill in my details if that ever pays out :)
Oct 11 10:21:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13226 @ 0.00030983 = 4.0978 BTC [-]
Oct 11 10:31:47 <Chaang-Noi>	zerokwel
Oct 11 10:31:58 <zerokwel>	yo ?
Oct 11 10:32:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i doubt neferio is going to wait for you
Oct 11 10:32:26 <Chaang-Noi>	then again i doubt pirate will ever pay
Oct 11 10:32:48 <zerokwel>	meh had a few shares with u and a few others... nothing major tbh
Oct 11 10:33:08 <Chaang-Noi>	ok:)
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Oct 11 10:46:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7720 @ 0.00030983 = 2.3919 BTC [-]
Oct 11 10:46:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19480 @ 0.00030975 = 6.0339 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 11:04:31 <rg>	so
Oct 11 11:04:33 <rg>	i take it nefario paid out
Oct 11 11:04:36 <rg>	and everything is fine?
Oct 11 11:06:13 <Cylta>	same question several hours ago reseived this answer: "mircea_popescu: not afaik"
Oct 11 11:06:14 *	Azelphur hasn't been paid
Oct 11 11:06:56 <jcpham>	LOUD NOISES
Oct 11 11:07:10 <rg>	hrm
Oct 11 11:07:12 <rg>	cause the website is back up
Oct 11 11:07:21 <jcpham>	orly
Oct 11 11:07:31 <rg>	GLBSE is closed
Oct 11 11:07:31 <rg>	Please login to get your bitcoin and assets.
Oct 11 11:08:30 <Chaang-Noi>	no one has claimed to getting a payment
Oct 11 11:08:38 <Chaang-Noi>	and he cant give away assets
Oct 11 11:08:41 <Chaang-Noi>	only lame ass codes
Oct 11 11:08:54 <Ukto>	hasnt even given codes yet
Oct 11 11:08:58 <Ukto>	to my knowledge
Oct 11 11:09:25 <Chaang-Noi>	codes will be rejected by many
Oct 11 11:09:30 <Ukto>	from what I hear, you login with your email address, put that same email address in a field, and hit a request button
Oct 11 11:09:35 <Ukto>	somehow ddidnt make sense to me
Oct 11 11:09:49 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario is failing at failing
Oct 11 11:10:05 <Ukto>	i havent seen it myself, since I can't login
Oct 11 11:10:14 <Ukto>	so I am repeating what I was told, it may be incorrect
Oct 11 11:10:20 <Ukto>	but sounds like something I would expect. :P
Oct 11 11:11:18 <Chaang-Noi>	i cant log ineither
Oct 11 11:11:21 <BurtW>	I logged in, filled out the simple form (email, address, check box) done
Oct 11 11:11:24 <Chaang-Noi>	my account was destoried
Oct 11 11:11:36 <smickles>	<@assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 266 @ 0.25780139 = 68.5752 BTC [+] << :D
Oct 11 11:11:40 <Ukto>	address? physical addresss?
Oct 11 11:11:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9692 @ 0.00031009 = 3.0054 BTC [+]
Oct 11 11:11:56 <Chaang-Noi>	btc address i assume
Oct 11 11:12:55 <Ukto>	Wonder what happens if you put 123 Sesame Street, Springboro, Ohio
Oct 11 11:13:17 <Chaang-Noi>	fine a real address that is also a btc address :)
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Oct 11 11:23:42 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 11 11:23:43 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.997, Best ask: 12.07, Bid-ask spread: 0.07300, Last trade: 12.07, 24 hour volume: 24457, 24 hour low: 11.85788, 24 hour high: 12.19
Oct 11 11:23:46 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 11 11:23:48 <gribble>	12.04
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Oct 11 11:30:16 <asa1024>	lol sesame street
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Oct 11 11:36:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51152 @ 0.00031156 = 15.9369 BTC [+]
Oct 11 11:36:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17941 @ 0.00031201 = 5.5978 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 12:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18408 @ 0.00031078 = 5.7208 BTC [-]
Oct 11 12:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33820 @ 0.00030975 = 10.4757 BTC [-]
Oct 11 12:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2472 @ 0.00030963 = 0.7654 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 12:27:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00030967 = 7.2153 BTC [+]
Oct 11 12:27:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 985 @ 0.00030963 = 0.305 BTC [-]
Oct 11 12:27:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44715 @ 0.0003096 = 13.8438 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 12:52:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9408 @ 0.0003096 = 2.9127 BTC [-]
Oct 11 12:52:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2292 @ 0.00030959 = 0.7096 BTC [-]
Oct 11 12:54:47 <FabianB>	ah jurov, you changed fees a bit
Oct 11 12:55:07 <FabianB>	good idea with the bitcoin signing for password reset
Oct 11 12:55:28 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i need a repayment address
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Oct 11 13:14:50 <FabianB>	so https://coinbr.com/ref?c=P55Hgmfdv2 can go into public beta with some PR i guess
Oct 11 13:18:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00030959 = 10.7428 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 13:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24359 @ 0.00031201 = 7.6003 BTC [+]
Oct 11 13:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.0003121 = 4.6815 BTC [+]
Oct 11 13:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10741 @ 0.00031307 = 3.3627 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 14:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00031024 = 3.816 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 14:10:26 <jurov>	hi everyone, coinbr registration is now open and it will be announced on btctalk/reddit on Monday
Oct 11 14:10:50 <jurov>	so you have chance to get your referral codes ;)
Oct 11 14:11:46 <jurov>	i've added monthly fee for all accounts... but if you invest only BTC 10 into any mpex share dividends will pay that fee themselves
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Oct 11 14:28:49 <smickles>	;;seen kakobrekla
Oct 11 14:28:50 <gribble>	kakobrekla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 34 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <kakobrekla> no
Oct 11 14:28:58 <smickles>	gpg info kakobrekla
Oct 11 14:29:05 <smickles>	;;gpg info kakobrekla
Oct 11 14:29:05 <gribble>	User 'kakobrekla', with keyid 27AF75321F2489E8, fingerprint 27C3CE9A20851312F086268C27AF75321F2489E8, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri May 13 15:04:32 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=kakobrekla . Currently authenticated from hostmask kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net .
Oct 11 14:29:19 <smickles>	"bitcoin address None" D:
Oct 11 14:29:25 <kakobrekla>	im here
Oct 11 14:29:26 <kakobrekla>	sorry
Oct 11 14:29:28 <kakobrekla>	been busy
Oct 11 14:29:33 <smickles>	np
Oct 11 14:29:44 <smickles>	do you want your btc back?
Oct 11 14:29:49 <kakobrekla>	12AVDQRJMpaqjobz7XFKwBsM7ahrDibpFt
Oct 11 14:31:55 <smickles>	sent :)
Oct 11 14:33:21 <kakobrekla>	got it
Oct 11 14:33:22 <kakobrekla>	thanks
Oct 11 14:33:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24922 @ 0.00030959 = 7.7156 BTC [-]
Oct 11 14:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4178 @ 0.00030957 = 1.2934 BTC [-]
Oct 11 14:35:46 <smickles>	;;rated kakobrekla
Oct 11 14:35:47 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user kakobrekla
Oct 11 14:36:14 <smickles>	;;rate kakobrekla 1 facilitated a short term loan
Oct 11 14:36:16 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user kakobrekla has been recorded.
Oct 11 14:36:22 <kakobrekla>	;;rated smickles
Oct 11 14:36:23 <gribble>	You rated user smickles on Tue Sep 25 14:03:50 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: sold me THE share..
Oct 11 14:36:28 <kakobrekla>	ill leave it at that.
Oct 11 14:37:06 <smickles>	heh, it's a nice rating :)
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Oct 11 14:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00030957 = 4.1792 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 15:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00030995 = 4.2153 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 15:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	There's no drama like Bitcoin drama.  The "will pirate make contact" storyline returns tomorrow and the new season of "will BFL deliver" starts in a couple of weeks.  It's like reality TV without the ads.  Which well-known Bitcoin business will suddenly fail next?  Who should be voted off the libertarian island?
Oct 11 15:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	ahah so true.
Oct 11 15:49:14 <jcpham>	boner
Oct 11 15:49:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9302 @ 0.00031179 = 2.9003 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 15:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114820.msg1264442#msg1264442 also seems usagi ragequit ?
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Oct 11 15:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	so is bitfloor fucked v2.0 ?
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Oct 11 16:00:57 <FabianB>	again?
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Oct 11 16:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	well seems they lost chase acct
Oct 11 16:01:56 <mircea_popescu>	so this'd be banking not tech.
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Oct 11 16:10:56 <sgornick>	mircea_popescu: Lost chase and wells fargo (well, no deposits, no ach withdraw .. .. through end of Oct, though if he doesn't know why they froze it how does he know end of Oct. it will be re-opened, with access to funds?)
Oct 11 16:11:13 <mircea_popescu>	o wow both ?
Oct 11 16:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	well that's ok, he makes a third coming, this time with a frozen BTC and a frozen USD balance.
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Oct 11 16:12:24 <sgornick>	"WellsFargo cash deposits are currently suspended. We apologize for any inconvenience and are looking for a resolution."
Oct 11 16:12:25 <sgornick>	https://twitter.com/bitfloor/status/256122628471930881
Oct 11 16:12:42 <sgornick>	 "business reasons" with no explanation.
Oct 11 16:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	you know... it's almost as if the banks are by now workingtogether to fuck over btc exchanges
Oct 11 16:12:52 <sgornick>	https://twitter.com/bitfloor/status/256125151823941634
Oct 11 16:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	possibly the worst business to be in.
Oct 11 16:13:24 <sgornick>	Yup, and they have an excuse that sounds legit.   "Just because, um ... we can't tell you why."
Oct 11 16:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	well frankly, they're entirely within their right to tell you to take a hike.
Oct 11 16:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	it's a bank after all, it's not obliged to handle your money.
Oct 11 16:14:05 <sgornick>	Until I can legally open a bank then that is bullshit.
Oct 11 16:14:14 <mircea_popescu>	you can.
Oct 11 16:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	you just need a lot of money.
Oct 11 16:14:22 <sgornick>	Bullshit
Oct 11 16:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	what ?
Oct 11 16:15:01 <dub>	all is not well in magical bunny land
Oct 11 16:15:02 <mircea_popescu>	i'm serious tho, come to romania and open a bank. you need something like 50ish mn in capital iirc.
Oct 11 16:15:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12798 @ 0.0003126 = 4.0007 BTC [+]
Oct 11 16:15:56 <pigeons>	i'd rather open a mcdonalds
Oct 11 16:16:19 <rdponticelli>	How long would take mpex to open his own bank?
Oct 11 16:16:23 <rdponticelli>	:)
Oct 11 16:17:15 <rdponticelli>	pigeons: for that you need garbage amounting in the millions
Oct 11 16:17:26 <sgornick>	Right, wasn't calling bullshit on that you need money to open a bank.  Was trying to  say how that moeny requirement is bullshit.
Oct 11 16:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli i don't want a bank tho.
Oct 11 16:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick why would it be bullshit tho ? i mean... allow nefario to open an irl bank ?
Oct 11 16:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	money as a barrier to entry is great, because in spite of all its failings, modern society works pretty well at keeping idiots and money apart.
Oct 11 16:18:30 <pigeons>	people wouldn't use nefario if there were legal alternatives competent people would run them
Oct 11 16:18:35 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: damn, I won't buy anymore S.MPOE, then
Oct 11 16:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons right. like... you know... btc stock exchanges.
Oct 11 16:18:48 <rdponticelli>	I thought we was building a bank
Oct 11 16:18:48 <rdponticelli>	xD
Oct 11 16:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	you're flat out wrong. the incompetent flock together.
Oct 11 16:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli banks suck, the margins are about as narrow as in electricity production.
Oct 11 16:19:14 <pigeons>	or at least they hire likeminded people to post for them on forums
Oct 11 16:19:50 <mircea_popescu>	no, in general they do it themselves.
Oct 11 16:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	and the honesty of their incompetence resonates with the inner vibration of incompetence in a large mass of others.
Oct 11 16:20:18 <pigeons>	that's deep
Oct 11 16:20:39 <mircea_popescu>	and it has vibrations!
Oct 11 16:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	but incidentally, why are there mcdonald's places, pigeons ? after all, there's legal alternatives run by competent people. like, you know, actual restaurants.
Oct 11 16:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	chez asshole.
Oct 11 16:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	i mean alphonse. chez alphonse.
Oct 11 16:23:13 <pigeons>	what are the legal alternatives to banks?
Oct 11 16:23:40 <pigeons>	there aren't. join the cartel or else use nefario
Oct 11 16:24:11 <mircea_popescu>	"the cartel" ?
Oct 11 16:24:31 <pigeons>	.wik cartel
Oct 11 16:24:32 <markac>	"A cartel is a formal agreement among competing firms." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel
Oct 11 16:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	there's no banking cartel wtf.
Oct 11 16:25:43 <jcpham>	but there can be a bitcoin cartel
Oct 11 16:25:45 <sgornick>	mircea_popescu: When fractional reserve is 10:1 that's when the system fails without a large amount of capital (and generally fails even with a large amount of capital)
Oct 11 16:26:00 <sgornick>	But here's an approach where I need only $1 to do this.
Oct 11 16:26:00 <sgornick>	http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=209282
Oct 11 16:27:01 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick well that's two arguments you're proposing, and they're unrelated. anyway, there's no practical way to limit credit.
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Oct 11 16:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	if i promise my gf to take her to the film, it's none of your business.
Oct 11 16:27:21 <mircea_popescu>	credit arises naturally.
Oct 11 16:27:37 <BTC-Mining>	arf, give me my bitcoins, GLBSE!
Oct 11 16:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining shoe on head ?
Oct 11 16:27:55 <BTC-Mining>	no shoe on head...
Oct 11 16:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	aww
Oct 11 16:28:09 <BTC-Mining>	It seems the AML docs requirement was removed
Oct 11 16:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	i saw. isn't this great, policy by shoestring ?
Oct 11 16:28:56 <mircea_popescu>	and when i say glbse is damaging, this is EXACTLY what i mean. will in the future people go "o, i won't follow stated policy cause what if these people reverse it like glbse used to do" ? yes, they will.
Oct 11 16:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	the false notion that glbse was a btc-financials related website is fucking us over ;/
Oct 11 16:31:08 <FabianB>	jurov: in the orderform of coinbr it would be nice if the item selectbox would have a consistent ordering
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Oct 11 16:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.0003112 = 9.336 BTC [-]
Oct 11 16:47:27 <BTC-Mining>	[16:29] <mircea_popescu> the false notion that glbse was a btc-financials related website is fucking us over
Oct 11 16:48:33 <mircea_popescu>	yes, this is dog.
Oct 11 16:48:58 <BTC-Mining>	Well it could have been, but Nefario screwed it up. He should have accepted brokering unregistered securities might not be legal and stayed in China. Lower costs of living to top it.
Oct 11 16:49:43 <BTC-Mining>	Instead of backing up for unknown reasons (theft, fears, whatever)
Oct 11 16:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	it surely could have been.
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Oct 11 16:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	back when he was still in China I honestly thought that's where he's going and mostly why I laid off him
Oct 11 16:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	(that and a bunch of people vouching)
Oct 11 16:52:23 <BTC-Mining>	You need some dedication when offering bitcoin services.
Oct 11 16:53:02 <BTC-Mining>	In any case, I'm off. Don't know why I've been paying 26$/month for TV I'm not using when I watch my shows online.
Oct 11 16:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	"some".
Oct 11 16:53:15 <mircea_popescu>	i'd say it's easier to have children.
Oct 11 16:53:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On0r-7XGf0U << is this  chick high ?
Oct 11 16:53:34 <BTC-Mining>	Got to return a terminal eh
Oct 11 16:57:40 <dub>	its atlas
Oct 11 16:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	who is ?
Oct 11 16:58:23 <dub>	that stoned girl
Oct 11 16:59:00 <dub>	pic related http://media.reason.com/mc/mriggs/2012_10/40Years0fDrugWarFailure.jpg
Oct 11 16:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	heh yea.
Oct 11 17:00:16 <dub>	in other news Tim O'reilly is a toker
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Oct 11 17:06:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.0003112 = 1.7738 BTC [-]
Oct 11 17:06:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00031094 = 0.8395 BTC [-]
Oct 11 17:06:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.0003107 = 5.8722 BTC [-]
Oct 11 17:08:51 <smickles>	jeez, being sure you have legal shit together takes too long
Oct 11 17:09:23 *	smickles rings hand at the gov't
Oct 11 17:15:50 <rdponticelli>	smickles: Yeah, the legal system is just a hierarchy sustainer, and those already stablished don't tend to like the future competition
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Oct 11 17:17:18 <kakobrekla>	hm
Oct 11 17:17:27 <kakobrekla>	i need to get all the trades from gox since begining of time
Oct 11 17:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	yours or everyone's ?
Oct 11 17:17:41 <kakobrekla>	everyones.
Oct 11 17:18:04 <kakobrekla>	hm
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Oct 11 17:20:14 <kakobrekla>	o, here they are http://cahier2.ww7.be/bitcoinmirror/phantomcircuit/
Oct 11 17:20:27 <kakobrekla>	that dude is still useful for something
Oct 11 17:20:38 <dub>	grab it now, you know theres no backup
Oct 11 17:20:42 <kakobrekla>	:D
Oct 11 17:20:57 <dub>	iirc bitcoincharts had a copy somewhere
Oct 11 17:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00031238 = 0.9371 BTC [+]
Oct 11 17:24:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00031238 = 7.8095 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 17:49:32 <dub>	http://theweek.com/article/index/234470/13-little-known-punctuation-marks-we-should-be-using
Oct 11 17:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.0003107 = 2.8895 BTC [-]
Oct 11 17:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15604 @ 0.00031012 = 4.8391 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 18:01:49 <jurov>	FabianB,yes, whole order form is FUBAR. But finally i figured toscawidgets out and am redoing it right atm.
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Oct 11 18:12:46 <smickles>	i've now written a draft of a couple lines of recitals for a contract involving bitcoin transfers which i enjoy
Oct 11 18:12:49 <smickles>	Over the course of their adventures, smickles has acquired control over an amount of [thing] and [otherguy] has acquired control over an amount of [otherthing].
Oct 11 18:12:52 <smickles>	So, it has come to this, that smickles is willing to part with an amount of [thing] in order to acquire control over an amount of [otherthing]. Likewise, [otherguy] is now willing to part with an amount of [otherthing] in order to acquire control over an amount of [thing].
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Oct 11 18:15:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200N] 1 @ 0.99879214 BTC [-]
Oct 11 18:15:35 <jurov>	smickles, consider writing recitals for hire
Oct 11 18:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200N] 1 @ 0.89865703 BTC [-]
Oct 11 18:16:30 <smickles>	jurov: i will provide consulting services as part of my business ;D
Oct 11 18:17:23 <jurov>	i'd prefer something short and simple like "smickles accidentally an amount of [thing] in order to [otherthing]"
Oct 11 18:17:41 <smickles>	;;calc (20-[ticker --bid])/[ticker --bid]-.99879214
Oct 11 18:17:42 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
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Oct 11 18:17:56 <smickles>	;;calc (20 - [ticker --bid]) / [ticker --bid] - .99879214
Oct 11 18:17:57 <gribble>	-0.332125473333
Oct 11 18:19:35 <smickles>	jurov: lol, i feel like making the recitals out of a 'realization keanu' image
Oct 11 18:20:49 <jurov>	or, even shorter,  "smickles wants moar [thing]. Likewise, [otherguy] can haz [otherthing]."
Oct 11 18:21:43 <smickles>	:D
Oct 11 18:21:44 <jurov>	and you can use cat pics! keanu is boring
Oct 11 18:22:04 <smickles>	"under the eye of ceiling cat"
Oct 11 18:24:40 <jurov>	"Delivery method: [ ] Fedex [ ] UPS [ ] Monorail cat"
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Oct 11 18:27:34 <smickles>	and it has to end with "best contract evar"
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Oct 11 18:33:44 <jurov>	i used lolcat translator, brace ur:
Oct 11 18:33:47 <jurov>	SO, IT HAS COME 2 DIS, DAT SMICKLEZ IZ WILLIN 2 PART WIF AN AMOUNT OV [TING] IN ORDR 2 ACQUIRE CONTROL OVAR AN AMOUNT OV [OTHERTHIN]. LIKEWIZE, [OTHERGUY] IZ NAO WILLIN 2 PART WIF AN AMOUNT OV [OTHERTHIN] IN ORDR 2 ACQUIRE CONTROL OVAR AN AMOUNT OV [TING].
Oct 11 18:34:00 <jurov>	lmaooooo
Oct 11 18:37:44 <smickles>	lol
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Oct 11 18:42:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4637 @ 0.00031238 = 1.4485 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 19:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170N] 1 @ 0.58521108 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 19:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 3 @ 0.08997437 = 0.2699 BTC [-]
Oct 11 19:46:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00031051 = 6.5828 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 20:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13365 @ 0.00031238 = 4.175 BTC [+]
Oct 11 20:11:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28425 @ 0.00031307 = 8.899 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 20:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00031264 = 1.8446 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 20:56:31 <BitcoinBear>	quiet in here today
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Oct 11 21:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34758 @ 0.00031264 = 10.8667 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 21:28:54 <gribble>	Request successful for user thestringpuller, hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/0FF2943DA179E169
Oct 11 21:30:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4519 @ 0.00031109 = 1.4058 BTC [-]
Oct 11 21:32:37 <thestringpuller>	;;gpg verify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:69eaf57f6336b2ca03141dcfc6bb3c41918a39d23bf42c504c512155
Oct 11 21:32:38 <gribble>	Error: 'freenode:#bitcoin-otc:69eaf57f6336b2ca03141dcfc6bb3c41918a39d23bf42c504c512155' is not a valid http url.
Oct 11 21:33:57 <thestringpuller>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:69eaf57f6336b2ca03141dcfc6bb3c41918a39d23bf42c504c512155
Oct 11 21:33:57 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu
Oct 11 21:34:16 <thestringpuller>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:69eaf57f6336b2ca03141dcfc6bb3c41918a39d23bf42c504c512155
Oct 11 21:34:17 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user thestringpuller with key 0FF2943DA179E169
Oct 11 21:34:25 <thestringpuller>	:P
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Oct 11 21:43:08 <thestringpuller>	;;seen usagi
Oct 11 21:43:08 <gribble>	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 18 hours, 29 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <usagi> We own 2000 shares.. should be good if glbse comes up :/
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Oct 11 21:50:24 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, i just got my glbse btc back.
Oct 11 21:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	it was tucked away in the pirate oct 12 payment.
Oct 11 21:53:43 <dub>	spose I should get around to claiming
Oct 11 21:54:18 <dub>	purely because I don't want that fuckmeat keepign the 1.4btc or whatever I have in there
Oct 11 21:54:50 <dub>	and of course to claim that 1 DMC share
Oct 11 21:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	totally worth it.
Oct 11 21:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00031084 = 7.0561 BTC [-]
Oct 11 21:56:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 896 @ 0.00031051 = 0.2782 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 22:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43104 @ 0.00031051 = 13.3842 BTC [-]
Oct 11 22:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19596 @ 0.00031012 = 6.0771 BTC [-]
Oct 11 22:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16522 @ 0.00030957 = 5.1147 BTC [-]
Oct 11 22:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 978 @ 0.00030956 = 0.3027 BTC [-]
Oct 11 22:25:56 <asciilifeform>	Please comment: "Shitcoin: a Modest Proposal." (http://www.loper-os.org/?p=988)
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Oct 11 22:37:35 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: ooh
Oct 11 22:37:38 <Diablo-D3>	that could be useful
Oct 11 22:37:44 <Diablo-D3>	needs a better name though
Oct 11 22:40:20 <novusordo>	anything new with GLBSE?
Oct 11 22:40:39 <novusordo>	deja vu, BTCST
Oct 11 22:40:40 <Diablo-D3>	novusordo: nope
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Oct 11 22:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42113 @ 0.00030956 = 13.0365 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 23:00:37 <BTC-Mining>	I don't like the idea of dirty coins. Bitcoins are never dirty to me, just like money.
Oct 11 23:06:04 <smickles>	wtf is a dirty coin? electron drift on an ssd or something?
Oct 11 23:06:44 <thestringpuller>	A coin that has had something else encoded in it's transaction.
Oct 11 23:06:53 <thestringpuller>	You can mark bitcoins if you know what you're doing.
Oct 11 23:07:38 <smickles>	thestringpuller: calling that dirty is misleading
Oct 11 23:07:50 <thestringpuller>	Dirty money
Oct 11 23:07:56 <thestringpuller>	you mean bitcoins that have been used to buy drugs?
Oct 11 23:08:52 <smickles>	well, that's only dirty to prudish statists
Oct 11 23:11:25 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, it's damn long to get a vanity bitcoin address
Oct 11 23:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18992 @ 0.00031109 = 5.9082 BTC [+]
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Oct 11 23:28:44 <MrTiggr>	hey gang o/
Oct 11 23:29:18 <MrTiggr>	?? anyone know if "piuk" uses IRC ? .. (he's the owner of blockchain.info iirc)
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Oct 11 23:35:24 <BTC-Mining>	arf, taking a beejesus lot of time to create vanity urls
Oct 11 23:35:29 <BTC-Mining>	No idea MrTiggr
Oct 11 23:37:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00031069 = 5.4371 BTC [-]
Oct 11 23:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24396 @ 0.00030956 = 7.552 BTC [-]
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Oct 11 23:59:29 <dub>	grep v2258 *
Oct 11 23:59:38 <dub>	fuck
Oct 12 00:00:28 <dub>	12 hours at work already
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Oct 12 00:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6664 @ 0.00031109 = 2.0731 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 00:14:15 <smickles>	awesome: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117957.0
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Oct 12 00:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6234 @ 0.00031307 = 1.9517 BTC [+]
Oct 12 00:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00031314 = 5.1355 BTC [+]
Oct 12 00:27:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10266 @ 0.00031315 = 3.2148 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 00:53:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40636 @ 0.00031147 = 12.6569 BTC [-]
Oct 12 01:01:10 <Chaaang-Noi>	chanseems dead
Oct 12 01:01:40 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Oct 12 01:01:43 <Diablo-D3>	its nice and quiet
Oct 12 01:01:45 <Diablo-D3>	no fucking glbse spam
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Oct 12 01:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6513 @ 0.00030956 = 2.0162 BTC [-]
Oct 12 01:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56971 @ 0.00030951 = 17.6331 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 01:28:14 <GLBSE>	SPAM SPAM SPAM
Oct 12 01:28:20 *	GLBSE is now known as BTC-Mining
Oct 12 01:28:24 <BTC-Mining>	Now there is
Oct 12 01:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6629 @ 0.00030951 = 2.0517 BTC [-]
Oct 12 01:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 271 @ 0.00030946 = 0.0839 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 02:08:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00030946 = 1.6092 BTC [-]
Oct 12 02:08:29 <smickles>	;;calc (([ticker --bid] - 12) / [ticker --bid]) -.14232130
Oct 12 02:08:30 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Oct 12 02:08:35 <smickles>	;;calc (([ticker --bid] - 12) / [ticker --bid]) - .14232130
Oct 12 02:08:36 <gribble>	-0.142319633336
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Oct 12 02:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 100 @ 0.14227515 = 14.2275 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 02:21:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 11 @ 0.03137216 = 0.3451 BTC [+]
Oct 12 02:21:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 18 @ 0.03104912 = 0.5589 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 02:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 13 @ 0.02920618 = 0.3797 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 02:49:40 <grubles>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 12 02:49:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.0032 / 0.0032 (885 shares, 2.83 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.0029939 / 0.0034 (1991072 shares, 5,961.08 BTC)
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Oct 12 03:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00031114 = 2.5513 BTC [+]
Oct 12 03:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16664 @ 0.00031134 = 5.1882 BTC [+]
Oct 12 03:30:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38601 @ 0.00031315 = 12.0879 BTC [+]
Oct 12 03:30:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17909 @ 0.00031324 = 5.6098 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 03:55:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22748 @ 0.00031326 = 7.126 BTC [+]
Oct 12 03:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15736 @ 0.00031298 = 4.9251 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 04:20:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75028 @ 0.00030946 = 23.2182 BTC [-]
Oct 12 04:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3572 @ 0.00030936 = 1.105 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 04:30:59 <Chaang-Noi>	forum down?
Oct 12 04:33:01 <knotwork>	taking forever at least
Oct 12 04:33:19 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Oct 12 04:34:32 <knotwork>	yup down
Oct 12 04:35:31 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Oct 12 04:36:11 <Chaang-Noi>	mtgox too
Oct 12 04:38:06 <knotwork>	waybe someone tripped over japan's cable and unplugged it
Oct 12 04:38:35 <Chaang-Noi>	japan seems up
Oct 12 04:39:09 <knotwork>	or their anti-DDOS supplier in the U.S. they go through pulled their plug preparator to put up a SEC notice or something in place of the sites
Oct 12 04:39:39 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Oct 12 04:39:44 <Chaang-Noi>	that would kill the btc rpice
Oct 12 04:40:05 <knotwork>	I dont suppose they scheduled maintenance?
Oct 12 04:40:18 <Chaang-Noi>	could have just spilt beer on the server
Oct 12 04:40:20 <knotwork>	like maybe its know fact they'd go down to make backups or whatever
Oct 12 04:40:28 <knotwork>	tripped over pkug
Oct 12 04:40:32 <knotwork>	plug
Oct 12 04:40:39 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Oct 12 04:40:54 <knotwork>	oops cat jumped on keyboard landed on ctrl-alt-del
Oct 12 04:41:03 <knotwork>	(big cat)
Oct 12 04:42:21 <knotwork>	maybe Mark is eloping with Nefario for a gay honeymoon in some exotic place
Oct 12 04:42:44 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario took over goxs management :)
Oct 12 04:42:52 <knotwork>	:)
Oct 12 04:43:20 <knotwork>	yeah seeiing he is no god for PRthey got him for technical support dept
Oct 12 04:43:27 <knotwork>	s/god/good/
Oct 12 04:43:50 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Oct 12 04:44:07 <knotwork>	should be back up in a week or few
Oct 12 04:44:55 <knotwork>	to give everyone the passport info of the folk they were trading with so they can get in touch to settle their trades
Oct 12 04:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28213 @ 0.00030936 = 8.728 BTC [-]
Oct 12 04:46:06 <knotwork>	no gox ticker lines in #bitcoin-assets for some minutes now too
Oct 12 04:46:19 <knotwork>	bitcoin-market I mean
Oct 12 04:46:44 <Chaang-Noi>	gox already has my docs :/
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Oct 12 05:02:41 <Chaang-Noi>	tux is aware of the down time
Oct 12 05:06:03 <knotwork>	where he say that?
Oct 12 05:06:14 <Chaang-Noi>	im not sure he did
Oct 12 05:06:23 <knotwork>	ho did where?
Oct 12 05:06:25 <knotwork>	who
Oct 12 05:06:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i did, a few lines up
Oct 12 05:07:03 <knotwork>	oh so you pulled it out your arse?
Oct 12 05:07:11 <Chaang-Noi>	no
Oct 12 05:07:26 <knotwork>	hoped you'd at least herdz it on the internetz
Oct 12 05:07:35 <Chaang-Noi>	can i not be a first hand source? do i have to quote others?
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Oct 12 05:08:01 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i used the internets to accure my information
Oct 12 05:08:02 <knotwork>	you heard it from tux yet he didn't say it?
Oct 12 05:08:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i never said i heard it from tux, i siad i know he is aware of the down time
Oct 12 05:08:31 <knotwork>	ahh ok
Oct 12 05:08:37 <OneFixt>	Chaang-Noi: so how do you know?
Oct 12 05:08:42 <OneFixt>	who heard it from whom?
Oct 12 05:08:48 <knotwork>	spycam showed he was at his computer trying to port of forum
Oct 12 05:08:56 <knotwork>	post on forum
Oct 12 05:09:25 <Chaang-Noi>	no one heard anything, but tux is active and is aware of the down time... jesus
Oct 12 05:09:37 <OneFixt>	active...where?
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Oct 12 05:10:01 <knotwork>	does he know how much the hackers got away with this time? :evilgrin:
Oct 12 05:10:25 <Chaang-Noi>	im not sure it was hacked, but if so lol
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Oct 12 05:11:02 <knotwork>	of course it waz hackz! internetz sayz ten billion bitcoins gone!
Oct 12 05:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 697 @ 0.00030961 = 0.2158 BTC [+]
Oct 12 05:11:34 <knotwork>	plus 39 cents U.S!
Oct 12 05:12:23 <knotwork>	Tux had Romney missing tax returns and the missing watergate tapes too, all gone now!
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Oct 12 05:18:59 <Chaang-Noi>	fastcash4bitcoins.com is down?
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Oct 12 05:20:53 <Chaang-Noi>	what other sites are down?
Oct 12 05:21:34 <knotwork>	DDOS maybe?
Oct 12 05:24:36 <OneFixt>	https://www.facebook.com/MtGox/posts/380790105338736
Oct 12 05:24:58 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks
Oct 12 05:25:08 <OneFixt>	yw
Oct 12 05:25:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i find it funny they used facebook
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Oct 12 05:33:57 <knotwork>	I guess there must be some bitcoin users on facebook
Oct 12 05:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53300 @ 0.00031349 = 16.709 BTC [+]
Oct 12 05:47:55 <Chaang-Noi>	gox is up
Oct 12 05:47:57 <Chaang-Noi>	forums are down
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Oct 12 06:02:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00031371 = 4.1096 BTC [+]
Oct 12 06:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10503 @ 0.00031346 = 3.2923 BTC [-]
Oct 12 06:03:12 <knotwork>	forum up now
Oct 12 06:16:59 <EskimoBob>	gox is down
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Oct 12 06:25:41 <knotwork>	damn must be one of those alien digital entity things, chase it from one computer and it flees to another
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Oct 12 06:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8575 @ 0.00030936 = 2.6528 BTC [-]
Oct 12 06:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12699 @ 0.00030935 = 3.9284 BTC [-]
Oct 12 06:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16626 @ 0.00030923 = 5.1413 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 06:43:40 <EskimoBob>	I was hoping you to answer "gox is up" so I can reply with: forums are down
Oct 12 06:44:16 <EskimoBob>	LTC had a nice rally
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Oct 12 06:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15997 @ 0.00031029 = 4.9637 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 07:18:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15327 @ 0.0003127 = 4.7928 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 07:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22948 @ 0.00031274 = 7.1768 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 08:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00031274 = 4.0969 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 08:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/YRDzn.png
Oct 12 08:33:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00031358 = 7.1496 BTC [+]
Oct 12 08:37:13 <kakobrekla>	soh, i parsed entire gox history
Oct 12 08:37:17 <kakobrekla>	3mio records
Oct 12 08:37:51 <kakobrekla>	not too shabby
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Oct 12 08:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Oct 12 08:46:28 <kakobrekla>	im going to chart money flow oscilator
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Oct 12 09:00:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27016 @ 0.00031274 = 8.449 BTC [-]
Oct 12 09:00:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00031231 = 0.7183 BTC [-]
Oct 12 09:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla fun
Oct 12 09:18:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 4 @ 0.22374807 = 0.895 BTC [-]
Oct 12 09:18:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 5 @ 0.21399737 = 1.07 BTC [-]
Oct 12 09:18:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 2 @ 0.19049152 = 0.381 BTC [-]
Oct 12 09:18:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 2 @ 0.18103774 = 0.3621 BTC [-]
Oct 12 09:18:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 837 @ 0.17063486 = 142.8214 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 09:30:53 <kakobrekla>	http://i.imgur.com/yU7bA.gif
Oct 12 09:38:29 <mircea_popescu>	someone should make a new ponzi on bite.me
Oct 12 09:38:49 <Chaang-Noi>	iv made 15 btc off of satishi dice...
Oct 12 09:38:54 <Chaang-Noi>	first time playing
Oct 12 09:38:58 <Chaang-Noi>	crazy adictive
Oct 12 09:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	you know, playing sdice is -er, owning stock is +er.
Oct 12 09:43:59 <zerokwel>	any thing that requires luck I lose
Oct 12 09:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00031116 = 5.5698 BTC [-]
Oct 12 09:44:35 <Chaang-Noi>	lol 30 btc to get an account? you know i turned you down when it was free
Oct 12 09:44:42 <Chaang-Noi>	also i think i would lose more holding the stock anyway
Oct 12 09:44:44 <Chaang-Noi>	id short it...
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Oct 12 10:04:12 <Chaang-Noi>	the problem with this game is confrims
Oct 12 10:04:21 <Chaang-Noi>	im up 19 coins but cant play more but want to
Oct 12 10:04:52 <Chaang-Noi>	oh i just have to wait for 1 confirm not 6
Oct 12 10:04:55 <Chaang-Noi>	okay this is fine
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Oct 12 10:09:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23887 @ 0.000311 = 7.4289 BTC [-]
Oct 12 10:09:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20723 @ 0.00031058 = 6.4361 BTC [-]
Oct 12 10:09:18 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 12 10:09:21 <gribble>	Time since last block: 2 minutes and 37 seconds
Oct 12 10:12:21 <zerokwel>	and some blocks do that have sd tx in them
Oct 12 10:12:32 <zerokwel>	do not have even
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Oct 12 10:19:09 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah mine are not being added
Oct 12 10:20:19 <EskimoBob>	you guy better get the LTC before it hits 0.009
Oct 12 10:20:40 <EskimoBob>	diff jump estimate is about 45%! yes 45%
Oct 12 10:24:36 <Chaang-Noi>	im well over 160k so i guess ill have to hold
Oct 12 10:24:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i wanted 200k but i guess i ownt get it :(
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Oct 12 10:34:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29377 @ 0.00031058 = 9.1239 BTC [-]
Oct 12 10:34:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1074 @ 0.00030923 = 0.3321 BTC [-]
Oct 12 10:34:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14649 @ 0.0003092 = 4.5295 BTC [-]
Oct 12 10:36:00 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm s dice did not tell me about a 2 btc bet
Oct 12 10:36:08 <Chaang-Noi>	it jsut ignored it but took my money :/
Oct 12 10:40:37 <Chaang-Noi>	oh it just took a while
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Oct 12 10:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6451 @ 0.0003092 = 1.9946 BTC [-]
Oct 12 10:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32549 @ 0.00030918 = 10.0635 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 11:07:26 <thepulledstring>	Giga
Oct 12 11:07:44 <gigavps>	hello
Oct 12 11:08:33 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
Oct 12 11:08:47 <thepulledstring>	How you guys doin?
Oct 12 11:08:52 <thepulledstring>	Glad it is friday?
Oct 12 11:09:53 <gigavps>	glbse has pretty much ruined any entire market, it's kind of hard to understand the effect of just shutting down their service  without any notice
Oct 12 11:09:58 <gigavps>	an*
Oct 12 11:10:25 <gigavps>	it's beyond a worst case scenario
Oct 12 11:13:02 *	jcpham hugs gigavps
Oct 12 11:13:45 <thepulledstring>	For a public market
Oct 12 11:13:53 <thepulledstring>	You are forced to reprivatizr
Oct 12 11:14:02 <thepulledstring>	Instead of public trading
Oct 12 11:14:21 <thepulledstring>	also doesnt mpex have more market depth?
Oct 12 11:15:07 <thepulledstring>	gigavps, you also seem to be able to withstand the weather of this storm your company won't buckle
Oct 12 11:16:21 <gigavps>	thepulledstring i can survive anything, i am more worried about people who bought shares/bonds
Oct 12 11:16:43 <gigavps>	glbse has let down their entire userbase with yet another knee jerk reaction
Oct 12 11:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4151 @ 0.00030918 = 1.2834 BTC [-]
Oct 12 11:25:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47549 @ 0.00030915 = 14.6998 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 11:35:11 <mircea_popescu>	at least it had better css.
Oct 12 11:38:36 <thepulledstring>	Mpex is for unix users
Oct 12 11:38:41 <mod6>	unf
Oct 12 11:39:34 <knotwork>	damn all that ASIC money still be dumped by the ASIC folk to buy fiat to build thier ASICS holding price down maybe?
Oct 12 11:39:52 <thepulledstring>	gigavps when you get a list of your outstanding shares and who owns them you will be able to hunt out your shareholders who haven't made claims...
Oct 12 11:40:51 <thepulledstring>	knotwork: ork I think asic are all hype. So much money goes into NRE
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Oct 12 11:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00030915 = 0.5874 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 12:16:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00031116 = 8.4947 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 12:33:22 <knotwork>	Hey I think I saw something about google's browser having a remote desktop / pc-anywhere feature in it now
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Oct 12 12:34:15 <knotwork>	if so people who insist everything has to be in their browser can be accomodated simply by leasing them a virtual machine running chrome with the remote desktop feature turned on
Oct 12 12:34:28 <knotwork>	they they can have desktop apps in their browser
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Oct 12 12:38:03 <EskimoBob>	chrome sucks. You can not select individual cells from a table.
Oct 12 12:38:46 <knotwork>	its suppoosedly a remote desktop
Oct 12 12:39:07 <knotwork>	dont know if the remote machine even has to run chrome or it runs a normal remote desk daemon
Oct 12 12:39:43 <knotwork>	no no HTML tables to worry about, its like running xwindows presumably but embedded in their browser
Oct 12 12:40:32 <knotwork>	so they could e.g. run open transactoions java client on their virtual machine and have it in their browser at their end
Oct 12 12:41:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00030915 = 1.8858 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 12:45:43 <knotwork>	I think the browser thing is "misery loves company". if private keys are only at their end, not even an intrusive javascript at server to come into their browser to mess with their keys, if they get hacked its just them suffering alone
Oct 12 12:46:21 <knotwork>	but if they convince someone to create a website to get hacked, then when the hack happens they have to consolation of everyonev else also suffering along with them
Oct 12 12:47:51 <knotwork>	and they can claim it wasnt their fault too, as if they didnt insist and lobby etc for a website precisely to let it happen
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Oct 12 12:51:58 <Chaang-Noi>	can someone help my figure something out, what are the odds of my not rolling a 1 on a 4 side dice if i do it 10 times? and never hit a 1?
Oct 12 12:52:37 <jurov>	.calc(0.25**10)
Oct 12 12:53:13 <jurov>	oh no it NOT rolling 1
Oct 12 12:53:17 <jurov>	.calc(0.75**10)
Oct 12 12:53:22 <jurov>	.calc(0.75^10)
Oct 12 12:53:26 <jurov>	whatever
Oct 12 12:53:34 <Chaang-Noi>	0.05631351470947265625
Oct 12 12:53:45 <Chaang-Noi>	so that will happen 5 times in 100?
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Oct 12 12:54:58 <jurov>	yes, i think so
Oct 12 12:55:38 <jurov>	;;calc(0/0)
Oct 12 12:55:38 <gribble>	Error: "calc(0/0)" is not a valid command.
Oct 12 12:55:44 <jurov>	how does it work?
Oct 12 12:56:06 <jurov>	.calc 0/0
Oct 12 12:56:07 <markac>	0/0 = 1
Oct 12 12:56:08 <markac>	Note that .calc is deprecated, consider using .c
Oct 12 12:56:22 <jurov>	0/0=1 fuck yeah
Oct 12 12:57:18 <EskimoBob>	is today the 12th when The BTC Shysters and Thieves (aka BTCST) promised to release new information?
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Oct 12 12:58:46 <jurov>	nope. wrong month
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Oct 12 13:02:48 <rdponticelli>	Wrong century
Oct 12 13:06:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21830 @ 0.00030915 = 6.7487 BTC [-]
Oct 12 13:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57549 @ 0.00030912 = 17.7895 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 13:31:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 300 @ 0.00323914 = 0.9717 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 13:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28674 @ 0.00030963 = 8.8783 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 14:19:06 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tlsb
Oct 12 14:19:07 <gribble>	Error: "tlsb" is not a valid command.
Oct 12 14:19:16 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 12 14:19:22 <gribble>	Time since last block: 19 minutes and 34 seconds
Oct 12 14:22:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4348 @ 0.00030912 = 1.3441 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 14:41:58 <Diablo-D3>	the fuck
Oct 12 14:43:22 <Diablo-D3>	is ozcoin down
Oct 12 14:46:35 <thepulledstring>	Ozcoin is never down
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Oct 12 14:47:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 100 @ 0.00323967 = 0.324 BTC [+]
Oct 12 14:48:36 <Diablo-D3>	dub: why is dubserv down
Oct 12 14:48:58 <thepulledstring>	gigavps returns
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Oct 12 14:50:12 <PsychoticBoy>	is it abird? is it a plain? no, its gigavps
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Oct 12 14:50:26 <thepulledstring>	PsychoticBoy lol
Oct 12 14:50:30 <thepulledstring>	i invested in you
Oct 12 14:50:48 <thepulledstring>	When you first ipo'ed
Oct 12 14:50:59 <PsychoticBoy>	I do hope i will get all shareholders information so I can settle  this
Oct 12 14:51:10 <PsychoticBoy>	ABM or FDBF?
Oct 12 14:51:16 <thepulledstring>	ABM
Oct 12 14:51:24 <PsychoticBoy>	long time ago
Oct 12 14:51:27 <thepulledstring>	How long did it take you to.get your single
Oct 12 14:51:30 <PsychoticBoy>	the good times
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Oct 12 14:51:43 <thepulledstring>	i am more interested in your interaction with bfl
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Oct 12 14:52:02 <PsychoticBoy>	I ordered in Jan 2012 and got it 11 april 2012
Oct 12 14:52:21 <thepulledstring>	damn you still think its that long of a wait?
Oct 12 14:52:30 <PsychoticBoy>	now?
Oct 12 14:52:35 <thepulledstring>	My investors want to drop money on singles
Oct 12 14:52:36 <thepulledstring>	yea now
Oct 12 14:52:39 <PsychoticBoy>	no now you will get it in 40 days
Oct 12 14:53:40 <PsychoticBoy>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77796.0
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Oct 12 14:54:10 <PsychoticBoy>	last one got it in 30 days
Oct 12 14:54:14 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
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Oct 12 14:54:17 <gribble>	Time since last block: 13 minutes and 30 seconds
Oct 12 14:54:22 <thepulledstring>	30 days damn thats so long
Oct 12 14:54:38 <thepulledstring>	i could build an fpga more quickly
Oct 12 14:55:03 <thepulledstring>	Too bad bfl's bitstream is locked down.
Oct 12 14:55:35 <thepulledstring>	PsychoticBoy do you think they will have hell shipping the asics given the wait times with the singles?
Oct 12 14:56:08 <PsychoticBoy>	First let us all wait and see IF they will ship any asics
Oct 12 14:56:11 <thepulledstring>	;;verify thestringpuller
Oct 12 14:56:12 <gribble>	Error: 'thestringpuller' is not a valid http url.
Oct 12 14:56:49 <thepulledstring>	If?
Oct 12 14:57:18 <PsychoticBoy>	yes IF
Oct 12 14:57:33 <thepulledstring>	I mean I know asic's are expensive to produce due to the NRE and the quantity needed to make it worthwhile.
Oct 12 14:57:58 <PsychoticBoy>	I have lots of preorders with them but heey anything can happen in btcworld
Oct 12 14:58:10 <thepulledstring>	My cost estimates for an asic based off of fpgaminer was about 500k for a batch
Oct 12 14:58:54 <thepulledstring>	I worked in a microelectronics fabrication lab at Georgia Tech as an undergrad.
Oct 12 14:59:00 <PsychoticBoy>	They should have enough to create the asics, I can only hope they will
Oct 12 14:59:04 <thepulledstring>	Its hella expensive.
Oct 12 14:59:30 <thepulledstring>	Expensive design wise. The acual fabrication is cheap hence the cost of the NRE.
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Oct 12 15:00:31 <thepulledstring>	I was just wondering your situation PsychoticBoy since I want to go into mining full time but dont want to get buttfucked when asics come out.
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Oct 12 15:01:18 <PsychoticBoy>	No one can tell, you have to take the risk A to buy a mining device now or B preorder asics
Oct 12 15:01:24 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 12 15:01:26 <gribble>	Time since last block: 20 minutes and 40 seconds
Oct 12 15:01:53 <thepulledstring>	Or i build my own.
Oct 12 15:02:05 <PsychoticBoy>	:D that would be the best option
Oct 12 15:02:24 <thepulledstring>	Which is doable if you have the right bitstream and people willing to solder for you.
Oct 12 15:02:34 <thepulledstring>	Fuck. I hate bfl
Oct 12 15:02:48 <thepulledstring>	I hate bfl more than glbse.
Oct 12 15:02:52 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Oct 12 15:03:06 <thepulledstring>	This is some elqborate con...
Oct 12 15:03:26 <thepulledstring>	Elaborate. Sorry for the typos I am using my phone to irc.
Oct 12 15:04:46 <thepulledstring>	PsychoticBoy, what was you roi time frame for the one single. I had you at 40+ weeks for full roi on the equipment based on our electricity costs over there in the netherlands.
Oct 12 15:09:08 <PsychoticBoy>	about 40 weeks brb
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Oct 12 15:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24526 @ 0.00030963 = 7.594 BTC [+]
Oct 12 15:16:18 <Diablo-D3>	http://video.disney.com/watch/partysaurus-rex-4cb5aeaed8df6adddc0f952d
Oct 12 15:16:22 <Diablo-D3>	so fucking tripping
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Oct 12 15:36:04 <EskimoBob>	BTCST = BTC Shysters & Thieves
Oct 12 15:38:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43645 @ 0.00031092 = 13.5701 BTC [+]
Oct 12 15:38:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6903 @ 0.00030912 = 2.1339 BTC [-]
Oct 12 15:38:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00030906 = 1.6998 BTC [-]
Oct 12 15:38:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23152 @ 0.00030903 = 7.1547 BTC [-]
Oct 12 15:39:58 <Graet>	ozcoin is down :/
Oct 12 15:40:33 <Diablo-D3>	yup it is :<
Oct 12 15:52:08 <thepulledstring>	Diablo miner
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Oct 12 16:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 3 @ 0.14522402 = 0.4357 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 16:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.12583524 = 125.8352 BTC [-]
Oct 12 16:09:33 <Chaang-Noi>	im failing at probibility
Oct 12 16:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 12 16:09:50 <Chaang-Noi>	lets say my odds are 1 in 4 and i miss it my first time
Oct 12 16:10:05 <Chaang-Noi>	what are the odds that i hit it the second time?
Oct 12 16:10:14 <Chaang-Noi>	is it just .25 x .25 ?
Oct 12 16:10:27 <Smoovious>	1:4
Oct 12 16:10:30 <Chaang-Noi>	that is the odds i miss it twicer right?
Oct 12 16:10:45 <Chaang-Noi>	im trying to figure out the odds i miss it the first time but hit it the second time
Oct 12 16:11:16 <Chaang-Noi>	1:4 only work for the first one
Oct 12 16:11:32 <FabianB_>	it doesn't change
Oct 12 16:11:39 <Chaang-Noi>	you are missing the point
Oct 12 16:11:41 <Smoovious>	1:4 works for each one... it has no memory of what came before
Oct 12 16:11:55 <Chaang-Noi>	waht are the odds i miss it the first time but hit it the second time?
Oct 12 16:12:25 <Chaang-Noi>	and what are the odds i miss it 3 times in a row and then hit its the 4th time
Oct 12 16:12:37 <Chaang-Noi>	you cant tell me its 1:4 everytime or i will be well over 100% before long...
Oct 12 16:13:09 <Smoovious>	but it is 1:4 every time
Oct 12 16:13:27 <Chaang-Noi>	facepalm
Oct 12 16:13:37 <Smoovious>	just like roulette :D
Oct 12 16:13:47 <Chaang-Noi>	youdont understand the question
Oct 12 16:14:43 <Chaang-Noi>	the odds of me missing the 1 out of 4 if i try 15 times should be 25 to the power of 15
Oct 12 16:15:02 <Smoovious>	I understand the question
Oct 12 16:15:36 <Chaang-Noi>	so waht are the odds of my hitting it on the 16th time assuming we dont know if i will hit it on the first 15 times or not   and trust me it is not 1:4
Oct 12 16:15:47 <Smoovious>	but it is
Oct 12 16:16:01 <Smoovious>	strictly speaking, from the exact wording of the question you just asked
Oct 12 16:16:05 <Chaang-Noi>	the odds of me failing to hit it 15 times in a row is so far less than 1;4
Oct 12 16:16:08 <Smoovious>	the odds of you hitting it on the 16th time is 1:4
Oct 12 16:16:19 <Smoovious>	that's a different question
Oct 12 16:16:21 <Chaang-Noi>	what are the odds i even make it to the 16th roll?
Oct 12 16:16:36 <Smoovious>	depends on how long your wrist holds out I suppose
Oct 12 16:16:41 <Chaang-Noi>	...
Oct 12 16:17:10 <Chaang-Noi>	at least you didnot say 1:4 again...
Oct 12 16:17:21 <Smoovious>	that'd be silly...
Oct 12 16:17:29 <Smoovious>	I have no idea the stamina of your dice-rolling hand
Oct 12 16:18:19 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know why i even bother talking with you...
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Oct 12 16:19:16 <Chaang-Noi>	its gota be .75 x .25
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Oct 12 16:27:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00030903 = 4.0483 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 16:31:47 <EskimoBob>	infomercia: Mos reliable BTC legal advice is given out by "Shystersberg, Schmuckman & Gonif" law firm. Located in NY Diamond District
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Oct 12 16:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16341 @ 0.00030903 = 5.0499 BTC [-]
Oct 12 16:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.000309 = 5.0985 BTC [-]
Oct 12 16:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24059 @ 0.000309 = 7.4342 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 17:18:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64300 @ 0.00030939 = 19.8938 BTC [+]
Oct 12 17:18:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 784 @ 0.00031116 = 0.2439 BTC [+]
Oct 12 17:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 216 @ 0.00031263 = 0.0675 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 17:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0003126 = 1.6568 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 18:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.0003126 = 3.1885 BTC [-]
Oct 12 18:09:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00031027 = 4.7782 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 18:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi look into hospital.
Oct 12 18:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, odds to miss twice in a row are 1/4. odds to hit one miss the other are 1/2
Oct 12 18:12:23 <mircea_popescu>	odds to miss first hit 2nd are 1/4
Oct 12 18:15:32 <jurov>	~commercial break~
Oct 12 18:15:35 <jurov>	CoinBr.com will be officially announced on Monday. But registration is laready open, so it' your chance to get your invitation code and start earning commissions!
Oct 12 18:15:46 <jurov>	*already
Oct 12 18:15:55 <jurov>	need to hire a copywriter
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Oct 12 18:25:35 <jurov>	aye,goodnight
Oct 12 18:36:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63100 @ 0.00031106 = 19.6279 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 19:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00031163 = 2.2749 BTC [+]
Oct 12 19:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42800 @ 0.00031027 = 13.2796 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 19:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 15 @ 0.05221673 = 0.7833 BTC [-]
Oct 12 19:21:13 <JWU42>	assuming nothing new from nef ?
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Oct 12 19:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00031007 = 6.9766 BTC [-]
Oct 12 19:49:15 <BTC-Mining>	nope, nothing
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Oct 12 19:55:14 <thepulledstring>	Anyone around?
Oct 12 19:57:24 <rdponticelli>	Who would be anyone?
Oct 12 19:57:44 <rdponticelli>	:)
Oct 12 20:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.00031027 = 8.8427 BTC [+]
Oct 12 20:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27657 @ 0.00031239 = 8.6398 BTC [+]
Oct 12 20:08:06 <BitcoinBear>	Around what?
Oct 12 20:27:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00031211 = 2.5281 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 20:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45400 @ 0.00031211 = 14.1698 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 21:18:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00031007 = 9.1781 BTC [-]
Oct 12 21:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00030953 = 6.4692 BTC [-]
Oct 12 21:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0003095 = 3.2807 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 21:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/heroes-of-newerth/ if anyone feels like a little dota
Oct 12 21:34:16 <thepulledstring>	Lol dota
Oct 12 21:36:13 <mircea_popescu>	yee
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Oct 12 21:40:48 <smickles>	i wish the bot told if it was liquidity taking or not
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Oct 12 21:41:05 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: is there an easy way for you to facilitate that ?
Oct 12 21:42:12 <smickles>	ya know, waht i said makes no sense
Oct 12 21:42:19 <smickles>	none at all
Oct 12 21:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00031039 = 2.7314 BTC [+]
Oct 12 21:45:14 <thepulledstring>	what do you mean smickles?
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Oct 12 21:55:33 <smickles>	thepulledstring: well, what i meant to say was that I wanted to know if the order which triggered the tx was a buy or a sell
Oct 12 21:56:11 <smickles>	what i actually said was tautologes nonsense
Oct 12 21:56:14 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, that would be nice
Oct 12 21:56:53 <thepulledstring>	Why is there no bitcoin to cash options
Oct 12 21:57:03 <smickles>	there arnt'?
Oct 12 21:57:30 <smickles>	thepulledstring: if you are in tucson, i'll do a bitcoin for cash or a cash for bitcoin
Oct 12 21:57:41 <smickles>	usd or cad or peso only please
Oct 12 21:57:44 <thepulledstring>	Like from btc to moneygram
Oct 12 21:57:56 <thepulledstring>	like there is money gram to btc
Oct 12 21:58:02 <smickles>	i can do that too, most likely
Oct 12 21:58:05 <thepulledstring>	but not the other way
Oct 12 21:58:19 <smickles>	thepulledstring: do you frequent #bitcoin-otc?
Oct 12 21:58:26 <smickles>	that's where this shit happens
Oct 12 21:58:36 <thepulledstring>	Yea. But i was thinking of more of a company
Oct 12 21:58:50 <smickles>	oh, probably the labor cost is too high
Oct 12 21:58:54 <thepulledstring>	that would serve as a liquidity provider
Oct 12 21:59:03 <thepulledstring>	ima try it out
Oct 12 21:59:07 <smickles>	and moneygram/wu charge high fees anyway
Oct 12 21:59:32 <thepulledstring>	certified checks to cash are cheap if you know the right people
Oct 12 21:59:35 <smickles>	thepulledstring: you're going to start a moneygram>btc service biz?
Oct 12 21:59:47 <thepulledstring>	A couoon business
Oct 12 22:00:00 <thepulledstring>	something that is as liquid as cash to dispense for btc
Oct 12 22:00:15 <thepulledstring>	something you could bill/expense pay with
Oct 12 22:00:23 <thepulledstring>	coupon
Oct 12 22:00:25 <thepulledstring>	*
Oct 12 22:01:02 <smickles>	couoon was confusing the fuck out of my 2 beer down mind
Oct 12 22:01:48 <smickles>	thepulledstring: if your serious about this, do you have a url yet?
Oct 12 22:02:00 <smickles>	and
Oct 12 22:02:21 <smickles>	do you need help with accounting?
Oct 12 22:02:25 *	smickles is an accountant
Oct 12 22:03:12 <smickles>	(and i'm actually in process of launching my own accounting company)
Oct 12 22:03:43 <thepulledstring>	This is a drunk idea. Buut it would be more of an acquiring/merchant service to solve liquidity for expenses
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Oct 12 22:04:21 <thepulledstring>	People seem to need easy access to liquidating coins to pay expenses
Oct 12 22:06:45 <smickles>	well, it sounds viable to me. but i know, any busines which intends to keep operating long needs a couple of things
Oct 12 22:06:49 <smickles>	a lawyer
Oct 12 22:06:53 <smickles>	and an accountant
Oct 12 22:07:06 <smickles>	(at least in 'merica)
Oct 12 22:07:46 <smickles>	both of which can, in some cases, only be needed at the beginning.
Oct 12 22:07:54 <smickles>	sort've to get you going
Oct 12 22:08:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17281 @ 0.00031239 = 5.3984 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 22:34:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30662 @ 0.00031239 = 9.5785 BTC [+]
Oct 12 22:34:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8038 @ 0.00031263 = 2.5129 BTC [+]
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Oct 12 22:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	smickles huh ?
Oct 12 22:39:26 <smickles>	zactly
Oct 12 22:39:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol k
Oct 12 22:40:11 <smickles>	< smickles> thepulledstring: well, what i meant to say was that I wanted to know if the order which triggered  the tx was a buy or a sell
Oct 12 22:40:14 <smickles>	01:56 < smickles> what i actually said was tautologes nonsense
Oct 12 22:40:38 <smickles>	i don't even think i spelled toautologes correctly
Oct 12 22:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	hm. you can usually tell by price neh ?
Oct 12 22:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	tautologuous i'd guess.
Oct 12 22:41:05 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: only if i'm keeping track of the price of the given asset/option
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Oct 12 22:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	if you care enough to want to know you are, neh ?
Oct 12 22:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	am i missing something ?
Oct 12 22:41:25 <smickles>	it's not all that important ;)
Oct 12 22:42:01 <smickles>	there is a gap between wanting to know, and wanting to exert the effort to know in 'merica
Oct 12 22:42:39 <smickles>	and as you know, they call me a 'merican
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Oct 12 22:42:47 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Oct 12 22:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	the report assbot puts in is already kinda reminescent of an xmas tree
Oct 12 22:43:14 <smickles>	rdponticelli wantes ti too tho
Oct 12 22:43:21 <smickles>	*it
Oct 12 22:44:35 <smickles>	ok, is it that i've had a couple, or that i'm atheist that i don't understand how the bot resembles an xmas tree?
Oct 12 22:45:44 <smickles>	(funny how the sometimes aceptable mystype "ti" didn't pass my correction dector, but 'wantes' flew right thru.
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Oct 12 23:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00031181 = 1.6214 BTC [-]
Oct 12 23:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60800 @ 0.0003107 = 18.8906 BTC [-]
Oct 12 23:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	smickles as in, charged with a lot of decorations
Oct 12 23:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	and whats a dector
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Oct 12 23:25:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 69 @ 0.00316891 = 0.2187 BTC [-]
Oct 12 23:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.0003107 = 1.1496 BTC [-]
Oct 12 23:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58000 @ 0.00030981 = 17.969 BTC [-]
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Oct 12 23:57:52 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: I just noticed this announcement from April: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76926.0 . Are you still paying interest on balances?
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Oct 13 00:03:15 <thestringpuller>	smickles still around?
Oct 13 00:03:45 <jcpham>	who summons the almighty smickles from his slumber?
Oct 13 00:03:50 <jcpham>	LOUD NOISES
Oct 13 00:05:11 <thestringpuller>	jcpham = smickles?
Oct 13 00:05:25 <jcpham>	probably not
Oct 13 00:05:34 <jcpham>	unless you want me to be
Oct 13 00:05:39 <jcpham>	$$$
Oct 13 00:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00030981 = 6.0723 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 00:41:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55983 @ 0.00030932 = 17.3167 BTC [-]
Oct 13 00:41:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5117 @ 0.00030908 = 1.5816 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 01:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44771 @ 0.00030908 = 13.8378 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 01:32:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9212 @ 0.00030908 = 2.8472 BTC [-]
Oct 13 01:32:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.000309 = 12.1437 BTC [-]
Oct 13 01:32:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13841 @ 0.000309 = 4.2769 BTC [-]
Oct 13 01:32:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6147 @ 0.00030898 = 1.8993 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 01:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell maximian no, it ended i think in june ? or julu
Oct 13 01:36:36 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Oct 13 01:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00030974 = 8.7966 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 02:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20325 @ 0.00030974 = 6.2955 BTC [+]
Oct 13 02:23:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56100 @ 0.00030985 = 17.3826 BTC [+]
Oct 13 02:23:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 275 @ 0.00031036 = 0.0853 BTC [+]
Oct 13 02:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 106000 @ 0.0009495 = 100.647 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 02:51:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56944 @ 0.00031036 = 17.6731 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 03:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64700 @ 0.00030899 = 19.9917 BTC [-]
Oct 13 03:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00030898 = 1.3286 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 03:41:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41800 @ 0.00030898 = 12.9154 BTC [-]
Oct 13 03:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18488 @ 0.00030898 = 5.7124 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 04:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00030915 = 13.3553 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 04:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40106 @ 0.00030898 = 12.392 BTC [-]
Oct 13 04:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31855 @ 0.00030898 = 9.8426 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 04:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00030898 = 3.1516 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 05:02:16 <DeaDTerra1>	morning :)
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Oct 13 05:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29245 @ 0.00030898 = 9.0361 BTC [-]
Oct 13 05:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23368 @ 0.00030894 = 7.2193 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 05:31:26 <BTC-Mining>	Hello
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Oct 13 05:47:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00030915 = 3.1224 BTC [+]
Oct 13 05:47:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12481 @ 0.00031036 = 3.8736 BTC [+]
Oct 13 05:47:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44600 @ 0.00031087 = 13.8648 BTC [+]
Oct 13 05:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5919 @ 0.00031243 = 1.8493 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 06:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37132 @ 0.00030894 = 11.4716 BTC [-]
Oct 13 06:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00030893 = 0.4943 BTC [-]
Oct 13 06:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42568 @ 0.00030893 = 13.1505 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 06:38:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16535 @ 0.00030893 = 5.1082 BTC [-]
Oct 13 06:38:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38965 @ 0.00030884 = 12.034 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 07:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00031053 = 6.8317 BTC [+]
Oct 13 07:03:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00031115 = 4.9162 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 07:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44800 @ 0.00031115 = 13.9395 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 07:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33073 @ 0.00031132 = 10.2963 BTC [+]
Oct 13 07:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8127 @ 0.00030884 = 2.5099 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 08:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17481 @ 0.00031243 = 5.4616 BTC [+]
Oct 13 08:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5619 @ 0.00031257 = 1.7563 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 09:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3343 @ 0.00030879 = 1.0323 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 10:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52000 @ 0.00030927 = 16.082 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 10:52:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00030927 = 0.1856 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 11:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11098 @ 0.00030879 = 3.427 BTC [-]
Oct 13 11:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4002 @ 0.00030879 = 1.2358 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 11:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00030927 = 0.9587 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 11:52:51 <Doffx>	Yay I claimed my now worthles assets!
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Oct 13 12:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46955 @ 0.00030879 = 14.4992 BTC [-]
Oct 13 12:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23789 @ 0.00030874 = 7.3446 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 12:25:31 <Chaang-Noi>	zup
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Oct 13 12:29:30 <guruvan>	not much..... waiting for godot
Oct 13 12:33:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00030874 = 10.8676 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 12:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00030927 = 2.103 BTC [+]
Oct 13 12:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00030978 = 3.2837 BTC [+]
Oct 13 12:59:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11979 @ 0.00031071 = 3.722 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 13:08:27 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 13 13:08:30 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 12 seconds
Oct 13 13:10:01 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 13 13:10:05 <gribble>	Time since last block: 4 minutes and 47 seconds
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Oct 13 13:15:54 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 13 13:15:57 <gribble>	Time since last block: 10 minutes and 38 seconds
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Oct 13 13:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8164 @ 0.00030908 = 2.5233 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 13:35:10 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 13 13:35:12 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 23 seconds
Oct 13 13:38:08 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 13 13:38:11 <gribble>	Time since last block: 6 minutes and 21 seconds
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Oct 13 13:42:00 <Chaang-Noi>	so i have like 200 recive address in my address book
Oct 13 13:42:12 <Chaang-Noi>	lets say i send 1000 to an oldish address
Oct 13 13:42:14 <mircea_popescu>	soo what's new
Oct 13 13:42:24 <Chaang-Noi>	it should still show up in the wallet right?
Oct 13 13:43:59 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway have knowledge about this?
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Oct 13 13:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	ofcourse it'll show up.
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Oct 13 13:44:37 <Chaang-Noi>	im missing 1000 btc right now
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Oct 13 13:45:16 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 13 13:45:19 <gribble>	Time since last block: 13 minutes and 29 seconds
Oct 13 13:45:28 <rdponticelli_>	Chaang-Noi:Are you sure you send it into your address?
Oct 13 13:45:43 <Chaang-Noi>	my other wallet, my recive address
Oct 13 13:45:50 <rdponticelli_>	Or you made it like those 400 from a while ago?
Oct 13 13:45:59 <Chaang-Noi>	no
Oct 13 13:46:11 <Chaang-Noi>	i learned from that
Oct 13 13:46:28 <rdponticelli_>	Ok
Oct 13 13:46:35 <Chaang-Noi>	never have sex with two gitrls and try to accept btc...
Oct 13 13:46:37 <rdponticelli_>	It should show up, then
Oct 13 13:46:44 <rdponticelli_>	Is the client well connected?
Oct 13 13:46:53 <Chaang-Noi>	no, im having internet issues
Oct 13 13:47:17 <rdponticelli_>	Check the address in blockchain
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Oct 13 13:47:27 <rdponticelli_>	It should show there
Oct 13 13:47:38 <mircea_popescu>	he's right. blockchain.
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Oct 13 13:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54221 @ 0.00031071 = 16.847 BTC [+]
Oct 13 13:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75650 @ 0.00031077 = 23.5098 BTC [+]
Oct 13 13:48:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00031094 = 3.4203 BTC [+]
Oct 13 13:48:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30296 @ 0.00031095 = 9.4205 BTC [+]
Oct 13 13:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76100 @ 0.00031131 = 23.6907 BTC [+]
Oct 13 13:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55200 @ 0.00031254 = 17.2522 BTC [+]
Oct 13 13:48:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41081 @ 0.00031257 = 12.8407 BTC [+]
Oct 13 13:48:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6452 @ 0.00031263 = 2.0171 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 13:49:45 <Chaang-Noi>	http://blockchain.info/address/14d9FViHJGCu934CQbUF3mWpWSGwQEMmpo
Oct 13 13:49:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i sent 1000 btc there
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Oct 13 13:49:58 <Chaang-Noi>	however the client i sent it from is uodating
Oct 13 13:50:02 <Chaang-Noi>	its like a day behind
Oct 13 13:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	Total Received	356.78 BTC
Oct 13 13:50:08 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 13 13:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi a, those never send.
Oct 13 13:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	it will resend it after it resyncs.
Oct 13 13:50:26 <Chaang-Noi>	well immissing 1000 btc from my other wlalet
Oct 13 13:50:33 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
Oct 13 13:50:34 <Chaang-Noi>	okay
Oct 13 13:50:41 <Chaang-Noi>	damn
Oct 13 13:50:43 <rdponticelli_>	Well, until the client is updated, it can't know what's the balance
Oct 13 13:50:51 <Chaang-Noi>	a netbook takes forever to sync
Oct 13 13:50:59 <Chaang-Noi>	like ages
Oct 13 13:51:14 <Chaang-Noi>	its really like a block every 30 seconds
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Oct 13 13:51:38 <Chaang-Noi>	im doomed to wait :)
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Oct 13 13:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli i think what it does is, it saves a provisional balance somewhere, and goes on that
Oct 13 13:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	which explains why he's 1k short. it's not "Real" balance.
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Oct 13 13:53:56 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
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Oct 13 13:54:39 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 13 13:54:41 <gribble>	Time since last block: 22 minutes and 52 seconds
Oct 13 13:55:15 <Ukto>	Chaang-Noi: you can try sending the 1k to my wallet address as a test. ;)
Oct 13 13:55:26 <Chaang-Noi>	its gone
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Oct 13 13:55:37 <Ukto>	;)
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Oct 13 14:00:42 <Chaang-Noi>	it hit
Oct 13 14:00:52 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 13 14:00:54 <gribble>	Time since last block: 29 minutes and 5 seconds
Oct 13 14:01:05 <Chaang-Noi>	this is why ltc
Oct 13 14:02:20 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 13 14:02:22 <gribble>	Time since last block: 30 minutes and 33 seconds
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Oct 13 14:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.16646956 = 166.4696 BTC [-]
Oct 13 14:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.08632677 = 86.3268 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 14:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32752 @ 0.00030908 = 10.123 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 15:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5149 @ 0.00030908 = 1.5915 BTC [-]
Oct 13 15:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00030895 = 5.8701 BTC [-]
Oct 13 15:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19611 @ 0.00030874 = 6.0547 BTC [-]
Oct 13 15:01:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17040 @ 0.00030873 = 5.2608 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 15:22:32 <EskimoBob>	assets-OTC issue #2 :) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102010.msg1116762
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Oct 13 15:27:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47791 @ 0.00030873 = 14.7545 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 15:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2069 @ 0.00030873 = 0.6388 BTC [-]
Oct 13 15:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53757 @ 0.00030872 = 16.5959 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 16:19:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7143 @ 0.00030872 = 2.2052 BTC [-]
Oct 13 16:19:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10857 @ 0.00030871 = 3.3517 BTC [-]
Oct 13 16:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 500 @ 0.08385937 = 41.9297 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 16:46:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1254 @ 0.00030892 = 0.3874 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 16:58:00 <thestringpuller>	;;ident darsie
Oct 13 16:58:00 <gribble>	Nick 'darsie', with hostmask 'darsie!~username@91-119-99-61.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at', is identified as user darsie, with GPG key id F732FBF3E4219D48, key fingerprint E18FBF4D0EE26522E950A06AF732FBF3E4219D48, and bitcoin address 153MZbMVJcyT1Usc1K5BEroe7zGj4rShy1
Oct 13 16:58:06 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating darsie
Oct 13 16:58:07 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask darsie!~username@91-119-99-61.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at . User darsie, rated since Sun Jul  1 13:42:17 2012. Cumulative rating 13, from 10 total ratings. Received ratings: 9 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 9 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=darsie
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Oct 13 17:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36446 @ 0.00030892 = 11.2589 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69700 @ 0.00031037 = 21.6328 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00031062 = 1.2735 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2094 @ 0.00031263 = 0.6546 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73200 @ 0.00031266 = 22.8867 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66500 @ 0.0003127 = 20.7946 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00031271 = 5.7539 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65400 @ 0.00031329 = 20.4892 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.0003133 = 7.2372 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00031337 = 5.7347 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73842 @ 0.00031337 = 23.1399 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00031348 = 9.9687 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00031364 = 1.1918 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00031396 = 7.3781 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61200 @ 0.0003141 = 19.2229 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66985 @ 0.00031419 = 21.046 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52958 @ 0.00031433 = 16.6463 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52580 @ 0.00031438 = 16.5301 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71466 @ 0.00031451 = 22.4768 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3629 @ 0.00031458 = 1.1416 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72800 @ 0.00031476 = 22.9145 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63000 @ 0.00031526 = 19.8614 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00031534 = 1.7659 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77900 @ 0.0003155 = 24.5775 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00031551 = 11.6423 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00031555 = 9.151 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00031561 = 0.9153 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55600 @ 0.00031567 = 17.5513 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58600 @ 0.00031604 = 18.5199 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.0003161 = 5.8162 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71500 @ 0.00031629 = 22.6147 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63952 @ 0.00031633 = 20.2299 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00031636 = 2.1196 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35700 @ 0.00031641 = 11.2958 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 17:08:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72500 @ 0.00031644 = 22.9419 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16070 @ 0.0003165 = 5.0862 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00031665 = 3.8631 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00031675 = 4.7829 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70677 @ 0.00031676 = 22.3876 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00031681 = 3.4532 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00031681 = 9.7261 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00031695 = 5.5783 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78600 @ 0.00031714 = 24.9272 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00031717 = 9.6103 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2805 @ 0.00031719 = 0.8897 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00031734 = 3.2369 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74000 @ 0.00031737 = 23.4854 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69700 @ 0.00031744 = 22.1256 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62046 @ 0.00031749 = 19.699 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64000 @ 0.00031751 = 20.3206 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2881 @ 0.0003178 = 0.9156 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00031805 = 8.7464 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64700 @ 0.00031837 = 20.5985 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67600 @ 0.00031918 = 21.5766 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00031941 = 4.2482 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11671 @ 0.0003195 = 3.7289 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6349 @ 0.00031985 = 2.0307 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46307 @ 0.00032078 = 14.8544 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27441 @ 0.00032706 = 8.9749 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34957 @ 0.0003389 = 11.8469 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36161 @ 0.0003422 = 12.3743 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00034455 = 5.6506 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64182 @ 0.00034999 = 22.4631 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134303 @ 0.00035 = 47.0061 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39194 @ 0.00037582 = 14.7299 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00037622 = 11.7757 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00037682 = 3.7682 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24860 @ 0.0003785 = 9.4095 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28652 @ 0.00037878 = 10.8528 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0003791 = 3.791 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1167867 @ 0.00038 = 443.7895 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:09:14 <copumpkin>	someone buying a lot of MPOE :)
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Oct 13 17:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	o hey.
Oct 13 17:11:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32468 @ 0.0003815 = 12.3865 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	maybe nao we can put the entire glbse nuttery behind us and carry on.
Oct 13 17:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21623 @ 0.00038231 = 8.2667 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:13:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38377 @ 0.00038417 = 14.7433 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 720 @ 0.00038417 = 0.2766 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 17:14:47 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu the legend himself
Oct 13 17:15:03 <thestringpuller>	glbse ruined a few companies
Oct 13 17:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	myea.
Oct 13 17:15:16 <thestringpuller>	gigavps still can't payout dividends...
Oct 13 17:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	i know.
Oct 13 17:15:28 <thestringpuller>	and the gigamining bond had the most market depth
Oct 13 17:16:08 <thestringpuller>	mirceau_popescu you know smickles?
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Oct 13 17:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller :
Oct 13 17:23:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated smickles
Oct 13 17:23:24 <gribble>	You rated user smickles on Sat Aug 25 08:39:34 2012, giving him a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: He's been running MPOE.ETF and releasing THE monthly reports, a model for all Bitcoin financial reporting. Also handled k's of BTC as broker for various clients..
Oct 13 17:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	and also why do you call me mirceau and why do you type out the name ? type mi press tab or so
Oct 13 17:25:26 <copumpkin>	just be glad that mircea_popescu doesn't have any weird diacritics
Oct 13 17:25:33 <copumpkin>	or characters, I guess
Oct 13 17:25:40 <copumpkin>	unlike ceausescu
Oct 13 17:25:53 <copumpkin>	is that how you spell it (wrong)?
Oct 13 17:26:04 <copumpkin>	yeah, omg
Oct 13 17:26:09 <copumpkin>	Ceaușescu
Oct 13 17:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 13 17:26:40 <copumpkin>	that S thing is more like an english sh, right?
Oct 13 17:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	or îţâşă
Oct 13 17:27:19 <copumpkin>	whoa
Oct 13 17:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.jeg.ro/titlul-mortii/ here's a little poll as to what that should mean lol
Oct 13 17:31:05 <copumpkin>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mLl9Q47e7bQ#!
Oct 13 17:31:08 <copumpkin>	what is she saying?
Oct 13 17:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	dubious hicks got into an argument, beat each other up.
Oct 13 17:32:49 <mircea_popescu>	(over some guy)
Oct 13 17:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	her romanian shocking to romanians cause it is marginally intelligible but sounds like how a sparrow or some other bird'd be speaking it.
Oct 13 17:33:47 <copumpkin>	oh
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Oct 13 17:36:47 <Azelphur>	I have money from GLBSE
Oct 13 17:36:48 <Azelphur>	:O
Oct 13 17:37:34 <Azelphur>	smickles: did you get anything yet?
Oct 13 17:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	Azelphur o hey, it pays out ?
Oct 13 17:40:37 <Azelphur>	yea GLBSE just paid out my balance
Oct 13 17:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00039093 = 14.3862 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool. so only been like a coupla weeks.
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Oct 13 17:42:04 <kakobrekla>	hm
Oct 13 17:42:07 <kakobrekla>	i got something as well
Oct 13 17:42:18 <kakobrekla>	the number seems to round to be my balance
Oct 13 17:42:18 <BTC-Mining>	Well, been a real mess, but at least it seems Nefario is honest even if he wussed out because of legal concerns.
Oct 13 17:42:21 <kakobrekla>	too*
Oct 13 17:42:39 <kakobrekla>	id say its more or less, not my balance
Oct 13 17:43:25 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, what if he's too lazy to type/copy the whole thing and pays out manually and just rounds up to the next bitcent or something
Oct 13 17:44:31 <BTC-Mining>	Copy pasting is way too much work you know.
Oct 13 17:44:32 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla is it short ? or too much ?
Oct 13 17:44:39 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Oct 13 17:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining did you receive the more or less correct sum ?
Oct 13 17:44:46 <kakobrekla>	dunno what my balance was
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Oct 13 17:45:04 <BTC-Mining>	I'll report when I get paid mine, I rounded it down to the bitcent
Oct 13 17:45:16 <mircea_popescu>	o, you weren't paid yet ?
Oct 13 17:45:41 <BTC-Mining>	Nope
Oct 13 17:46:13 <BTC-Mining>	I think they just got paid out. Mine might arrive soon.
Oct 13 17:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Oct 13 17:52:29 <kakobrekla>	ya
Oct 13 17:52:32 <kakobrekla>	i have 9 conf on it
Oct 13 17:53:24 <mircea_popescu>	coupla hours then
Oct 13 17:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63600 @ 0.00039179 = 24.9178 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.0004 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00041234 = 6.1851 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2921150 @ 0.00042 = 1226.883 BTC [+]
Oct 13 17:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	waitwaitwait.
Oct 13 17:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	glbse just paid out ?
Oct 13 17:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaha
Oct 13 17:57:00 <Azelphur>	I don't even know what my balance was in GLBSE, I got sent 10.1, it sounds about right
Oct 13 17:57:14 <Azelphur>	hopefully this means smickles has SS data and that can clean up now
Oct 13 17:57:34 <Azelphur>	then I won't be poor any more, yay \o/
Oct 13 17:57:53 <mircea_popescu>	good for you.
Oct 13 17:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, bbl.
Oct 13 18:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37500 @ 0.00041222 = 15.4583 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 18:24:45 <PsychoticBoy>	I have not recieved a dime from GLBSE
Oct 13 18:35:04 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, I received the spare change I had in glbse
Oct 13 18:35:39 <rdponticelli>	Now, it's still missing the important, the asset information
Oct 13 18:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00041698 = 0.3753 BTC [+]
Oct 13 18:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56900 @ 0.00041701 = 23.7279 BTC [+]
Oct 13 18:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00042 = 0.042 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 18:51:10 <jurov>	your funds are welcome on coinbr, you know
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Oct 13 18:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	i was wondering why mpoe is selling
Oct 13 18:52:16 <mircea_popescu>	then i found out glbse paid out.
Oct 13 18:53:50 <jurov>	gsdpt will be interesting, too. i hope deadterra will not sell it all and peruse my offer instead.
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Oct 13 18:56:03 <BTC-Mining>	jurov, nah, I'll just use MPEx directly
Oct 13 18:56:26 <maximian>	wow, what's going on with S.MPOE?
Oct 13 18:56:45 <BTC-Mining>	It went back up?
Oct 13 18:57:00 <BTC-Mining>	Often does.
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Oct 13 18:57:28 <jurov>	maximian, apparently because glbse paid back
Oct 13 18:57:34 <BTC-Mining>	14`391`957 bid at 0.00038150
Oct 13 18:57:58 <maximian>	I see
Oct 13 18:58:00 <maximian>	nice volume
Oct 13 18:58:18 <BTC-Mining>	That requires 5490 BTC to place in escrow for it...
Oct 13 18:59:19 <BTC-Mining>	And gives you 1.43% of Mpex earnings (14 million / 1000 million shares)
Oct 13 18:59:31 <Diablo-D3>	anything new happen?
Oct 13 18:59:39 <maximian>	well, I'm pleased
Oct 13 18:59:44 <BTC-Mining>	GLBSE paid a few people?
Oct 13 18:59:51 <BTC-Mining>	or is that old news for you?
Oct 13 19:00:27 <PsychoticBoy>	I am off to bed and HOPEFULLY tomorrow Ill get paid but not today :(
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Oct 13 19:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00041222 = 2.0611 BTC [-]
Oct 13 19:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2573 @ 0.00041195 = 1.0599 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 19:15:31 <EskimoBob>	I haven't got anything from GLBSE
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Oct 13 19:17:23 <BTC-Mining>	Not everyone has, only a few
Oct 13 19:17:39 <BTC-Mining>	It's now 3 AM in the UK, guess Nefario would be sleeping by now
Oct 13 19:18:24 <BTC-Mining>	Hopefully payments will resume tomorrow
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Oct 13 19:29:02 <EskimoBob>	it's more like 23 than 03 :)
Oct 13 19:30:43 <BTC-Mining>	erm, sorry... but more like 01:30
Oct 13 19:31:25 <BTC-Mining>	ah, no, 0:30
Oct 13 19:31:57 <BTC-Mining>	+5 for UK, +6 for France
Oct 13 19:32:04 <BTC-Mining>	I keep mixing them up
Oct 13 19:35:03 <rdponticelli>	We should just all use UTC
Oct 13 19:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00041008 = 2.5425 BTC [-]
Oct 13 19:42:56 <BTC-Mining>	I wouldn't mind.
Oct 13 19:43:49 <BTC-Mining>	Although sundials wouldn't work if we did that...
Oct 13 19:44:16 <BTC-Mining>	We'd have to replace em
Oct 13 19:44:42 <BTC-Mining>	THINK OF THE POOR SUNDIALS IN MONUMENTS!
Oct 13 19:45:10 <rdponticelli>	Well, you have a point
Oct 13 19:45:20 <rdponticelli>	Sundials should be localiced
Oct 13 19:46:12 <BTC-Mining>	It would clear the confusion for those with a day/night period fitting UTC (Like 0-6 AM, probably sleeping)
Oct 13 19:46:46 <BTC-Mining>	But we'd still get confused about people in other timezone since we'd still have to calculate what their day/night hours are.
Oct 13 19:47:01 <rdponticelli>	But yes, I understand we can't change something no to obsolete some technology which is already obsolete...
Oct 13 19:47:34 <BTC-Mining>	It's easier with the timezones.
Oct 13 19:47:56 <rdponticelli>	I don't know about the last point, I don't care if midnight is 12 or 24
Oct 13 19:48:08 <BTC-Mining>	We add +/- timezones and their schedule fits our hours.
Oct 13 19:48:15 <BTC-Mining>	Easier to figure it out.
Oct 13 19:48:53 <rdponticelli>	No, it's not easier when you got a mess everytime you're trying to figure what time is in some other place...
Oct 13 19:49:35 <BTC-Mining>	But the whole point when checking the time in another time zone is to determine what point of the day they are in.
Oct 13 19:50:06 <BTC-Mining>	If everyone has the same time, you have to figure what their day/night hours are instead.
Oct 13 19:50:29 <rdponticelli>	No, they are more points more importants
Oct 13 19:50:38 <BTC-Mining>	Like?
Oct 13 19:50:51 <rdponticelli>	I receive some mail, or read some post on some forum...
Oct 13 19:51:17 <BTC-Mining>	They're usually set for your timezone...
Oct 13 19:51:36 <rdponticelli>	Not always
Oct 13 19:51:53 <rdponticelli>	GLBSE itself didn't support timezones
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Oct 13 19:52:40 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, what do you need timezone for GLBSE for?
Oct 13 19:53:33 <rdponticelli>	I'm just say that it would be easy if it was the same hour for everybody at the same time
Oct 13 19:54:03 <rdponticelli>	There's a reason why the systems now are configured in UTC
Oct 13 19:54:43 <rdponticelli>	Back in the times, they used to be in local time, and it became a mess as soon as they had to share information
Oct 13 19:54:57 <novusordo>	just popping in for a second, but is my assumption that there has been no new info from GLBSE correct?
Oct 13 19:55:31 <rdponticelli>	novusordo: there has been some payments
Oct 13 19:55:33 <BTC-Mining>	It's incorrect
Oct 13 19:55:48 <novusordo>	oooh
Oct 13 19:55:53 *	novusordo is happily wrong
Oct 13 19:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	maximian i think that started like a 20mn wall
Oct 13 19:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	tore though the book
Oct 13 19:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining is this turning into a pirate, 23/690 accts paid sorta ordeal ?
Oct 13 19:56:49 <BTC-Mining>	No idea
Oct 13 19:57:27 <rdponticelli>	Quick! Every buying GLBSE's debt!
Oct 13 19:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli ok, so what hour should it be ?
Oct 13 19:57:35 <rdponticelli>	*Everybody
Oct 13 19:58:01 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: Any time, I don't care
Oct 13 19:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	novusordo some people came in and said they were paid. it seemed like it's all paid but now there's also people who haven't, and the ones paid are in the <10btc range
Oct 13 19:58:26 <rdponticelli>	But just agree what it is, and move forward
Oct 13 19:58:30 <mircea_popescu>	so tomorrow brings more certainty.
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Oct 13 19:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli you'll have to get all the old folks who don't even grok the internet accept that the sun sets at 7am ?
Oct 13 19:59:13 <rdponticelli>	I don't care about the old folks
Oct 13 19:59:17 <BTC-Mining>	hey mircea, some questions I have here
Oct 13 19:59:44 <rdponticelli>	I won't explain unixtime to an old folk
Oct 13 19:59:47 <rdponticelli>	What for?
Oct 13 19:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining shoot
Oct 13 20:00:13 <BTC-Mining>	If I want to buy/sell options on the market
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Oct 13 20:01:27 <BTC-Mining>	I get it I have to create them with MKOPT and it always take 1 BTC in collateral
Oct 13 20:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	either split or mkopt
Oct 13 20:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	split makes put/call pairs and is free, mkopt charges
Oct 13 20:01:55 <BTC-Mining>	aye, split assuming I want both
Oct 13 20:01:59 <mircea_popescu>	k.
Oct 13 20:02:26 <BTC-Mining>	Now
Oct 13 20:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	also, calls always take 1btc. puts take varying.
Oct 13 20:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00041008 = 1.4763 BTC [-]
Oct 13 20:03:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00040888 = 3.3119 BTC [-]
Oct 13 20:03:16 <BTC-Mining>	Suppose I sell it for a fraction of it's value on the market. What happens with the escrowed BTC?
Oct 13 20:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	nothing.
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Oct 13 20:04:31 <BTC-Mining>	So...
Oct 13 20:04:51 <mircea_popescu>	escrowed btc waits there till option is exercised.
Oct 13 20:04:57 <mircea_popescu>	at which point you get w/e is left.
Oct 13 20:05:14 <BTC-Mining>	aye, so it's returned at the end of the month, or part of it.
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Oct 13 20:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	yea, if option expires worthless you get it all back
Oct 13 20:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	there's for instance a guy keeps making huge bulks of c10t s
Oct 13 20:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	each costs 1btc to make and sells for w/e, .9x
Oct 13 20:06:28 <jcpham>	oh come on mircea_popescu
Oct 13 20:06:43 <mircea_popescu>	and at the end of the month he gets something, 0.0x or more possibly if the price goes down
Oct 13 20:06:43 <jcpham>	tell everyone how you dip into funds
Oct 13 20:06:50 <jcpham>	for hookers and blow
Oct 13 20:07:00 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham lol no more cp ? now it's h&b ?
Oct 13 20:07:27 <jcpham>	ok i made that up. i admit it
Oct 13 20:07:36 <mircea_popescu>	which one lol
Oct 13 20:07:45 <jcpham>	hurrr
Oct 13 20:09:48 <BTC-Mining>	oh... so by making a split, I get twice the BTC put up front in escrow with no fees.
Oct 13 20:10:09 <BTC-Mining>	But if I don't sell like I want, if price goes up/down, no loss
Oct 13 20:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Oct 13 20:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	you still pay the full escrow on both ends
Oct 13 20:12:00 <BTC-Mining>	hmm? I thought split had no fees?
Oct 13 20:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't.
Oct 13 20:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	you put up 20.4 btc get 20 call contracts, of your choosing
Oct 13 20:12:30 <mircea_popescu>	you put up 20 btc you get 10 call contracts and x put contracts of your chosing
Oct 13 20:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	where x varies on the strike you pick
Oct 13 20:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	right at the money x = 10
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Oct 13 20:13:04 <BTC-Mining>	Exactly
Oct 13 20:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	a ok.
Oct 13 20:13:12 <BTC-Mining>	So if you make a split, price moves and you don't sell any contract like you wanted, at the end of the month, it results in a 0 BTC loss or gain.
Oct 13 20:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	then yes, exactly :p
Oct 13 20:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Oct 13 20:13:33 <BTC-Mining>	Seems good, you put more BTC in escrow
Oct 13 20:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	and if you sell the out of the money side and it stays out of the money you make that sale profit
Oct 13 20:13:49 <BTC-Mining>	But if you only want to sell one way, the 2% fee saved can go a long way
Oct 13 20:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	well, yes, it practically boils down to, a little overescrow.
Oct 13 20:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	mostly to try and prevent too curageous speculation.
Oct 13 20:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	mpex doing it's part to promote financial responsibility.
Oct 13 20:16:13 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, consider the case you have 10k btc and want to ensure that they don't go under 100k usd.
Oct 13 20:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	you make 5k atm calls/puts, you sell the calls, keep the puts. if price goes down in fact you make a decent profit
Oct 13 20:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	obviously if it goes up you can make a loss. but you can adjust the % you sell to suit your expectations
Oct 13 20:17:51 <BTC-Mining>	aye
Oct 13 20:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	i'm kinda proud of the fact that mpex allows not only option buying, but also option writing, without any unbound risk.
Oct 13 20:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	it should be a great price stabilisation device.
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Oct 13 20:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00040933 = 8.6778 BTC [+]
Oct 13 20:39:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://onlyonetv.com/2011/05/uir1-1-universal-practices-of-peace-and-the-eight-intelligences/ something awful delivers.
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Oct 13 20:40:33 <BTC-Mining>	so, if someone exercies an option at a profit... collateral is lost eh.
Oct 13 20:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	well, some of it.
Oct 13 20:42:37 <BTC-Mining>	aye, proportionally
Oct 13 20:43:26 <BTC-Mining>	So, suppose I create a call (1 BTC escrow) struck at 20. Price is 12 USD/BTC and stays 12 USD/BTC
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Oct 13 20:44:07 <BTC-Mining>	Technically the call has a negative value of -0.6666666
Oct 13 20:44:33 <mircea_popescu>	options never have negative value. call is worth 0
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Oct 13 20:45:36 <BTC-Mining>	hmm... right. Because you only lose from escrow what the other party exercises.
Oct 13 20:45:58 <BTC-Mining>	So if it's negative, the exercising party gains zero and the BTC is returned instead.
Oct 13 20:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Oct 13 20:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	that's why they are called options. they convey the right but not the obligation.
Oct 13 20:48:02 <BTC-Mining>	Indeed
Oct 13 20:50:40 <BTC-Mining>	Slightly confusing at first but very interesting. I should try and start playing with those.
Oct 13 20:54:04 <BTC-Mining>	Last question. We need to put strike/spot BTC for a put option.
Oct 13 20:54:33 <BTC-Mining>	So a struck at 20 would require if price was 12, 1.66 BTC
Oct 13 20:54:53 <BTC-Mining>	Is that right?
Oct 13 20:55:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20466 @ 0.00040933 = 8.3773 BTC [+]
Oct 13 20:57:33 <mircea_popescu>	um
Oct 13 20:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	split works automatically, you declare the capital and the option
Oct 13 20:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	it rounds issuance down, so you could end up with 0 puts if the strike is high
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Oct 13 20:59:58 <BTC-Mining>	Aye, but making a put contract with strike of 20 when BTC is worth 12, would require 1.66666... BTC?
Oct 13 21:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	yea, something like that.
Oct 13 21:01:41 <BTC-Mining>	which is 20 / 12... but
Oct 13 21:02:13 <BTC-Mining>	Supposing price drops to 1 USD/BTC
Oct 13 21:02:56 <BTC-Mining>	Wouldn't the exercising value for the put @ 20 strike be 19 BTC?
Oct 13 21:03:05 <BTC-Mining>	Which is over 10x the collateral?
Oct 13 21:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	theoretically, yes.
Oct 13 21:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	you'd just not get anything out of your colateral in practice.
Oct 13 21:06:22 <BTC-Mining>	So how would that work?
Oct 13 21:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	well, it'd work cause at the time you posted the collateral it was in fact worth enough to cover in dollahs.
Oct 13 21:08:32 <BTC-Mining>	but... it would have to be converted to dollars to work.
Oct 13 21:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	yea.
Oct 13 21:09:51 <BTC-Mining>	Which means even if the contract is not exercised, there could be a loss in BTC if the price increase instead for the contract maker.
Oct 13 21:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	or a gain.
Oct 13 21:10:30 <BTC-Mining>	aye
Oct 13 21:10:45 <mircea_popescu>	but for simplicity's sake all those things happen behind the scenes.
Oct 13 21:14:59 <BTC-Mining>	ok, but let's say BTC price is 12 USD and I make a split at strike 12 for 100 contracts. I put 200 in collateral. Now let's say price goes to 20.
Oct 13 21:15:30 <BTC-Mining>	I sell both 100 put and 100 call contracts.
Oct 13 21:16:46 <BTC-Mining>	I lose 0.4 BTC per call struck at 12 exercised for 40 BTC loss. Other guy doesn't redeem his option because it's negative.
Oct 13 21:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	puts are worthless. calls are worth ~.4 each
Oct 13 21:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	you get ~160 btc back
Oct 13 21:17:19 <BTC-Mining>	But the 100 BTC for the PUT should have been converted to USD.
Oct 13 21:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	<mircea_popescu> but for simplicity's sake all those things happen behind the scenes.
Oct 13 21:18:03 <BTC-Mining>	So should be worth 1200 / 20 = 60 BTC, or another 0.4 BTC loss.
Oct 13 21:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	correspondingly, if btc went to 10
Oct 13 21:19:42 <mircea_popescu>	you'd lose nothing on the calls and .2 on the puts, coming out to 180 btc.
Oct 13 21:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	which are now 1800 usd instead of the 2400 they were.
Oct 13 21:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00040952 = 12.2037 BTC [+]
Oct 13 21:21:54 <BTC-Mining>	Aye... but now let's assume the opposite in the extreme. Price goes down to 0.01 USD... The calls are worth nothing so are not exercised. So you get back 100 BTC. However... Puts are worth 1199 BTC and are exercised, so you need 119900 BTC to pay out with 100 BTC only in collateral.
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Oct 13 21:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	i need 119900 new btc. as far as you're concerned, you get 100 btc back
Oct 13 21:23:15 <BTC-Mining>	Sounds messed up. Basically the exchange has absorbs the losses from unexercised contracts which goes over the collateral.
Oct 13 21:23:40 <BTC-Mining>	Shouldn't calls require BTC collateral (like they do) and put require USD collateral?
Oct 13 21:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Oct 13 21:27:16 <BTC-Mining>	It seems tho that logically, that's how they should be. Because unexercised contracts returns the escrow and a PUT technically is going long with USD, so if that contract makes a profit, it makes it on USD valuating, so escrow should be in USD
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Oct 13 21:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	except mpex works in bitcoin. why should i bother the customer with filthy fiat ?
Oct 13 21:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	"Even if they had every regulation in place, it still has other flaws, like being deflationary and non-reversible. The only time bitcoins will be "stable" is when the number of users drops very low"
Oct 13 21:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	god i love the opinions of the incompetent on matters they don't understand
Oct 13 21:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	sex has also flaws. it is pleasurable and makes time zip by!
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Oct 13 21:45:53 <BTC-Mining>	Yeah, but it basically means every time bitcoins value go down by a lot, MPEx has to pay for it because the escrow is not USD
Oct 13 21:46:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 438 @ 0.00040952 = 0.1794 BTC [+]
Oct 13 21:46:31 <BTC-Mining>	So basically, I could just make splits safely and indefinitly and any time BTC price would crash, I'd profit.
Oct 13 21:47:21 <BTC-Mining>	Because I can't lose more than escrow but can gain more than escrow
Oct 13 21:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	i don't follow how you profit ?
Oct 13 21:47:32 <mircea_popescu>	you mean if you sell them ?
Oct 13 21:49:07 <BTC-Mining>	Since there's no fee for splits and assuming I have 2 account
Oct 13 21:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	yea...
Oct 13 21:50:33 <BTC-Mining>	Seems bad
Oct 13 21:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	you still haven't produced a working scenario.
Oct 13 21:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	so, you split a bitcoin, get some calls and some puts. nwo what ?
Oct 13 21:52:11 <BTC-Mining>	Let me make 1 million such contract then crash the market price
Oct 13 21:52:21 <BTC-Mining>	Sounds like fun
Oct 13 21:53:10 <mircea_popescu>	you need 1 btc in cash to make them.
Oct 13 21:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	you crash the price with your other million. since we now have superpowers, i buy your other million.
Oct 13 21:53:34 <mircea_popescu>	now what ?
Oct 13 21:53:36 <BTC-Mining>	I know, I don't have the funds. Just daydreaming
Oct 13 21:54:07 <mircea_popescu>	but i mean, if you're daydreaming it'd be cheaper to buy a buncha calls and push the price up lol
Oct 13 21:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... it's the nature of options, they lend themselves to daydreaming.
Oct 13 21:54:34 <BTC-Mining>	I'll strike them at 20 for 1.66 million, crash price to 4 BTC with a few 100Ks, redeem 1 million x 4 BTC. I get 4 million BTC, lose 1.66 collateral and a few 100Ks
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Oct 13 21:55:16 <mircea_popescu>	let's do the math.
Oct 13 21:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	1.66mn btc in escrow -> 1 mn puts struck at 20.
Oct 13 21:55:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;bids 4
Oct 13 21:55:44 <BTC-Mining>	aye
Oct 13 21:55:44 <gribble>	There are currently 209213.01 bitcoins demanded at or over 4.0 USD, worth 1651453.94475 USD in total.
Oct 13 21:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	say 333k btc sold at ~5 or so on avg to crash it all to 4.
Oct 13 21:56:16 <BTC-Mining>	+209k I have to sell at a loss, let's round it up to 1.9 mn
Oct 13 21:56:26 <BTC-Mining>	or yeah, 2mn
Oct 13 21:56:44 <mircea_popescu>	now, of your original 2mn btc you have 1,666mn usd  and 1.666 mn btc
Oct 13 21:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	the later held in escrow.
Oct 13 21:56:58 <BTC-Mining>	yup
Oct 13 21:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	the value of those options is 16/4 = 2.5 each
Oct 13 21:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	.py 1.66 * 2.5
Oct 13 21:57:16 <markac>	4.15
Oct 13 21:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	so you cash 4.15mn btc on the options, lose the escrow. you now have 4.15mn btc worth 4 each and 1.66mn usd
Oct 13 21:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	considering you started with 2mn btc worth ~24mn usd each and now have ~1.66mn usd and another 1.66mn in btc
Oct 13 21:58:16 <mircea_popescu>	you've done fucked yourself out of 80% of your value.
Oct 13 21:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	this all notwithstanding that i wouldn't allow the insanity in the first place, just for the sake of argument.
Oct 13 21:59:15 <BTC-Mining>	No, because there was no USD in escrow and you have to buy those to pay me. I'd like to see that not switching the price back far over it's original value.
Oct 13 21:59:27 <BTC-Mining>	I'd basically bankrupt you.
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Oct 13 22:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	well, you already sold it to me lol.
Oct 13 22:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	remember, sold ~5 ?
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Oct 13 22:01:24 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, assuming you had the USD for it.
Oct 13 22:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	well yes my dear BTC-Mining, in this game where you're the only one that has any btc and any usd you can ofcourse do whatever you like lol
Oct 13 22:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	kinda why we even try to amass resources, this.
Oct 13 22:02:26 <BTC-Mining>	But even so, you paid a lot for them and have to give them to the market manipulator along with his own escrow + extra.
Oct 13 22:02:53 <BTC-Mining>	I only sold 333k + gave 1.66mn in esscrow and you have to give 4 mn
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Oct 13 22:03:45 <BTC-Mining>	But even on a low scale with 1 or 2 contract made by split.
Oct 13 22:04:13 <BTC-Mining>	No fee
Oct 13 22:04:20 <BTC-Mining>	then push to second account
Oct 13 22:04:52 <BTC-Mining>	price movement loss/win evens out the execution of said contracts
Oct 13 22:05:07 <BTC-Mining>	Since they're opposite
Oct 13 22:05:28 <BTC-Mining>	Until there's a large drop, at which point 1st account lose escrow and 2nd account makes a profit.
Oct 13 22:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	well what can i say, i'm guessing you should try this ?
Oct 13 22:05:53 <BTC-Mining>	Well that's assuming bitcoins wouldn't keep up the deflationary curve...
Oct 13 22:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	keep btc locked up in the hopes that maybe price collapses and you get a lot more of the collapsed currency
Oct 13 22:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, a conversation we should continue at a later time, i gtg now.
Oct 13 22:06:17 <BTC-Mining>	But if you have nothing to do with your bitcoins, seems like something I'd suggest.
Oct 13 22:06:29 <BTC-Mining>	No, I'd recommend investing the coins if possible.
Oct 13 22:06:46 <BTC-Mining>	Otherwise, you can keep them valuating safely
Oct 13 22:07:02 <BTC-Mining>	while still retaining a BTC gain for free should market collapse.
Oct 13 22:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8334 @ 0.00040933 = 3.4114 BTC [-]
Oct 13 22:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17827 @ 0.00040908 = 7.2927 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 22:36:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00040908 = 8.5498 BTC [-]
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Oct 13 22:49:57 <BTC-Mining>	Damn... of course I didn't get my BTC yet...
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Oct 13 22:50:14 <BTC-Mining>	My blockchain is 2 days old
Oct 13 22:50:23 <BTC-Mining>	Seems my firewall decided to block it...
Oct 13 22:50:30 <BTC-Mining>	Bitcoin-QT
Oct 13 22:52:20 <BTC-Mining>	Going to eat something and will report back afterward if I got paid already
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Oct 13 23:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26862 @ 0.00040952 = 11.0005 BTC [+]
Oct 13 23:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22538 @ 0.00040967 = 9.2331 BTC [+]
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Oct 13 23:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6173 @ 0.00040908 = 2.5253 BTC [-]
Oct 13 23:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11416 @ 0.00040888 = 4.6678 BTC [-]
Oct 13 23:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 811 @ 0.00040806 = 0.3309 BTC [-]
Oct 13 23:41:16 <BTC-Mining>	Well, I'm glad to report GLBSE paid me out too
Oct 13 23:41:38 <asa1024>	what about the stock holdings?
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Oct 13 23:41:47 <BTC-Mining>	nothing as of yet
Oct 13 23:41:59 <asa1024>	okay
Oct 13 23:42:00 <rg>	unsurprisin
Oct 13 23:42:01 <asa1024>	thanks
Oct 13 23:42:04 <asa1024>	:(
Oct 13 23:42:05 <rg>	after everyone villified nefario
Oct 13 23:42:06 <BTC-Mining>	But at least we now know it's not like pirate only paying out small accounts
Oct 13 23:42:08 <rg>	saying he was going to rip them off
Oct 13 23:42:15 <rg>	hes come through and paid out
Oct 13 23:42:39 <asa1024>	uh sure - what about the stock holdings?
Oct 13 23:42:51 <rg>	uh its a huge task to pay out thousands of btc
Oct 13 23:42:56 <rg>	perhaps he want sto make it gets done properly
Oct 13 23:43:02 <BTC-Mining>	338 BTC received here, in 3 payments
Oct 13 23:43:05 <rg>	or perhaps you can let him know its ok if he sends your BTC to someone else
Oct 13 23:43:05 <rg>	?
Oct 13 23:43:18 <BTC-Mining>	Which totals to what my 3 subaccounts should have had
Oct 13 23:43:30 <BTC-Mining>	and even extra
Oct 13 23:43:34 <rg>	im wondering how div payments are gonna work
Oct 13 23:43:44 <BTC-Mining>	Which might or might not be unnaccounted for dividends
Oct 13 23:43:54 <BTC-Mining>	Manual
Oct 13 23:44:00 <rg>	i meant for m
Oct 13 23:44:00 <rg>	e
Oct 13 23:44:08 <rg>	i have brendio doing a passthru asset
Oct 13 23:44:21 <BTC-Mining>	Well Brendio will pay manually
Oct 13 23:44:21 <rg>	technically i just pay divs to him and he dulls them out
Oct 13 23:44:23 <rg>	but
Oct 13 23:44:28 <rg>	no offense to brendio but
Oct 13 23:44:31 <rg>	how do we keep him honest
Oct 13 23:44:34 <rg>	without glbse
Oct 13 23:44:53 <rg>	i just want to make sure when i pay out 60 btc in divs
Oct 13 23:44:57 <rg>	they actually get where theyre meant to go
Oct 13 23:45:17 <BTC-Mining>	Eh... I expect a lot of people going around saying they haven't been paid and had 2 billion shares of this and that.
Oct 13 23:45:27 <BTC-Mining>	That's going to be harsh
Oct 13 23:45:36 <rg>	indeed
Oct 13 23:45:43 *	rg woried
Oct 13 23:49:56 *	jcpham hands a fresh rainbow to rg
Oct 13 23:51:19 <thestringpuller>	what are you worried for rg?
Oct 13 23:51:30 <rg>	im worried then when i pay my share holders
Oct 13 23:51:33 <rg>	they dont get the payout
Oct 13 23:51:43 <rg>	s/then/that
Oct 13 23:52:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00040967 = 8.644 BTC [+]
Oct 13 23:52:02 <rg>	most of them have given me a lot of money
Oct 13 23:52:03 <rg>	well
Oct 13 23:52:06 <rg>	its a lot of money to me
Oct 13 23:52:10 <rg>	and id like to make sure they get their cut
Oct 13 23:52:36 <rg>	in reality our total taken in from the asset is probably $4k
Oct 13 23:52:41 <rg>	but that's a lot of money to me
Oct 13 23:52:43 <rg>	andm ost people
Oct 13 23:53:43 <thestringpuller>	but there could be a scenario where some shareholders can't prove they own shares
Oct 13 23:53:48 <thestringpuller>	some may even forfeit their shares
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Oct 13 23:54:05 <rg>	hehe
Oct 13 23:54:07 <rg>	im ok with that
Oct 13 23:54:07 <rg>	:P
Oct 13 23:54:14 <rg>	if people wanna give back their shares
Oct 13 23:54:15 <rg>	by all means
Oct 13 23:54:16 <rg>	:P
Oct 13 23:54:23 <thestringpuller>	"unclaimed shares"
Oct 13 23:54:33 <BTC-Mining>	Well I'm sure not 100% will claim their account
Oct 13 23:54:41 <BTC-Mining>	It's quite sad, really
Oct 13 23:54:57 <thestringpuller>	it's an inevitability of an assets exchange shutting down improperly
Oct 13 23:55:06 <rg>	it would be dumb for them not to
Oct 13 23:55:21 <thestringpuller>	if all the users had gpg key fingerprints, it would be a no brainer
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Oct 13 23:55:57 <thestringpuller>	I mean I'm not one to complain though.
Oct 13 23:56:10 <BTC-Mining>	and damn, I'll need to put a keylock on my bedroom's door
Oct 13 23:56:34 <thestringpuller>	?
Oct 13 23:56:48 <rg>	my door has a lock but its a joke
Oct 13 23:56:57 <rg>	its the one you can stick an allen wrench into
Oct 13 23:56:58 <rg>	and pop it
Oct 13 23:57:01 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 13 23:57:15 <BTC-Mining>	Because I don't like drunken people crashing in my bed.
Oct 13 23:57:28 <thestringpuller>	why do drunk people crash in your bed?
Oct 13 23:57:34 <thestringpuller>	or attempt to
Oct 13 23:58:25 <BTC-Mining>	rg: my door lock isn't a lock, it's one of those things you can turn with your nail. Not really a lock, looks like a screw from outside.
Oct 13 23:59:34 <BTC-Mining>	Because I actually use heating in my room, and apparently it's comfortable. Apparently it's also just fun to come in to talk gibberish then fall asleept...
Oct 14 00:00:13 <thestringpuller>	You seem like a very tolerant person BTC-Mining
Oct 14 00:00:24 <thestringpuller>	They must find your room welcoming
Oct 14 00:01:27 <BTC-Mining>	Yeah, well it's my father. I decided to go share the appartment block with him and my cousin.
Oct 14 00:02:10 <BTC-Mining>	Duplex, 6 1/2 each
Oct 14 00:03:04 <BTC-Mining>	Inherited by my father and uncles/aunts from the grandparents.
Oct 14 00:03:23 <BTC-Mining>	Was pretty much a familial home long ago but was mostly empty nowadays.
Oct 14 00:03:53 <thestringpuller>	Better than renting.
Oct 14 00:04:33 <BTC-Mining>	Well, it's cheaper but I'll still pay a rent soon.
Oct 14 00:04:59 <BTC-Mining>	The 2nd floor needs to be renovated, once that's done, there will be a rent.
Oct 14 00:05:23 <BTC-Mining>	Might even find extra roommates to fill the place.
Oct 14 00:05:41 <BTC-Mining>	We take 3 bedrooms, there'll be 3 left.
Oct 14 00:09:30 <rg>	btc-mining: you could put miners in the free space
Oct 14 00:12:44 <BTC-Mining>	Aye
Oct 14 00:13:07 <BTC-Mining>	I think I'll go rack mounted and place miners in a datacenter however.
Oct 14 00:14:11 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, anyone knows why addresses on a wallet cannot be deleted?
Oct 14 00:15:15 <BTC-Mining>	I know some addresses might be needed multiple times if someone tries to repay to the same address but... why would clients block that possibility?
Oct 14 00:17:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5165 @ 0.00040806 = 2.1076 BTC [-]
Oct 14 00:19:24 <BTC-Mining>	My OCD is going haywire from not being able to delete things I don't want to use anymore =/
Oct 14 00:20:46 <thestringpuller>	I need mining hardware
Oct 14 00:21:15 <thestringpuller>	As Ed Wuncler once said, "[bfl] is trying to buttfuck me on the time/price"
Oct 14 00:33:33 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining ok so it's paid out
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Oct 14 00:39:32 <BTC-Mining>	yup
Oct 14 00:41:33 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: sorry for calling you "mirceau"
Oct 14 00:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller lol no big deal.
Oct 14 00:42:40 <thestringpuller>	lol cryptoxchange is so illiquid right now 15% spread on 10 BTCs
Oct 14 00:43:02 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Oct 14 00:43:21 <thestringpuller>	more like time to market make
Oct 14 00:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11119 @ 0.00040967 = 4.5551 BTC [+]
Oct 14 00:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18065 @ 0.00041036 = 7.4132 BTC [+]
Oct 14 00:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28284 @ 0.00041041 = 11.608 BTC [+]
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Oct 14 00:48:35 <thestringpuller>	+
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Oct 14 01:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-imbecilitarians/ if anyone feels like reading.
Oct 14 01:04:42 <Diablo-D3>	http://boingboing.net/2012/10/13/action-philosophers.html
Oct 14 01:04:46 <Diablo-D3>	best image ever
Oct 14 01:05:22 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: idiocracy is the word you're looking for
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Oct 14 01:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 shhh im trying to coin
Oct 14 01:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	aka mining.
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Oct 14 01:07:08 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow, going to bed
Oct 14 01:07:09 <Diablo-D3>	night all
Oct 14 01:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 30 @ 0.03 = 0.9 BTC [+]
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Oct 14 01:32:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C040T] 1 @ 0.72150649 BTC [+]
Oct 14 01:33:15 <BTC-Mining>	Nice, I sold an option
Oct 14 01:33:31 <mircea_popescu>	haha wd
Oct 14 01:33:48 <BTC-Mining>	I kind of have a hard time with the split function tho
Oct 14 01:34:00 <BTC-Mining>	With the fact it auto-split the BTC
Oct 14 01:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	so i'm noticing a pattern here. first bitcoin convention, organised by buttwrangler, before mybitcoin disaster
Oct 14 01:34:22 <mircea_popescu>	the interscamgro convention, before glbse disaster
Oct 14 01:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	conventions are bad for bitcoin mmkay ?
Oct 14 01:34:44 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining how do you mean ?
Oct 14 01:35:01 <BTC-Mining>	Well I tried to split 1 and I got 1 put, 0 call
Oct 14 01:35:11 <BTC-Mining>	and I wanted a call eh =P
Oct 14 01:35:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's really not made for 1 btc splitting.
Oct 14 01:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	split 1k or w/e
Oct 14 01:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise rounding gets you
Oct 14 01:35:44 <BTC-Mining>	Then I tried to split 2 and got 1 call, 2 put =/
Oct 14 01:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	sounds about right
Oct 14 01:37:40 <BTC-Mining>	hmm... what happens if I split... then exercise the hald I don't want?
Oct 14 01:37:59 <BTC-Mining>	Wouldn't it end up like getting a mkopt without the 2% fees?
Oct 14 01:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	you get the exercise value
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Oct 14 01:39:24 <BTC-Mining>	aye, but the exercise value is either null (refund of escrow) or gives value + (escrow - value)
Oct 14 01:39:42 <BTC-Mining>	Or do we still have to wait the end of the month to get the escrow?
Oct 14 01:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	currently you do have to wait till end of month.
Oct 14 01:41:30 <BTC-Mining>	ah, okay
Oct 14 01:42:27 <BTC-Mining>	So no advantage to do anything split then exercise to avoid fees since we don't get it back
Oct 14 01:42:56 <BTC-Mining>	"currently" should stay like this
Oct 14 01:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Oct 14 01:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57531758-38/anti-dea-rants-on-facebook-spark-criminal-prosecution/
Oct 14 01:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	the us is such a lovely place
Oct 14 01:58:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00040806 = 15.4655 BTC [-]
Oct 14 01:59:16 <BTC-Mining>	hmm, so MKTOP will always cost 0.02 BTC per call and 2% of (PUT STRIKE / CURRENT MARKET)
Oct 14 01:59:27 <BTC-Mining>	for PUT
Oct 14 01:59:44 <BTC-Mining>	Seems a bit expensive for the CALLS
Oct 14 01:59:47 <BTC-Mining>	But eh
Oct 14 02:00:40 <BTC-Mining>	Where is the current market price fetched?
Oct 14 02:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#25
Oct 14 02:06:17 <BTC-Mining>	ah, thanks
Oct 14 02:06:27 <BTC-Mining>	Is it fetched live for each MKOPT?
Oct 14 02:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't change that fast you know.
Oct 14 02:06:58 <BTC-Mining>	Well, not sure how frequently they change it
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Oct 14 02:12:28 <dub>	;;bc,blocks
Oct 14 02:12:29 <gribble>	203199
Oct 14 02:12:45 <Garr255>	;;bc
Oct 14 02:12:45 <gribble>	Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
Oct 14 02:12:49 <Garr255>	;;bc,total
Oct 14 02:12:50 <gribble>	Error: "bc,total" is not a valid command.
Oct 14 02:13:07 <Garr255>	;;bc,help
Oct 14 02:13:07 <gribble>	Alias bc,24hprc, Alias bc,avgprc, Alias bc,bitpenny, Alias bc,blockdiff, Alias bc,blocks, Alias bc,bounty, Alias bc,btcguild, Alias bc,calc, Alias bc,calcd, Alias bc,convert, Alias bc,deepbit, Alias bc,diff, Alias bc,diffchange, Alias bc,eligius, Alias bc,estimate, Alias bc,fx, Alias bc,gen, Alias bc,gend, Alias bc,halfreward, Alias bc,help, Alias bc,hextarget, Alias bc,intersango, Alias (2 more messages)
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Oct 14 02:24:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3382 @ 0.00040983 = 1.386 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20535.msg285717#msg285717 old mtgox threads kick ass
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Oct 14 02:39:27 <BTC-Mining>	My options spreadhseet now autofetch the data from bitcoinchart
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Oct 14 02:42:42 <mircea_popescu>	cool
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Oct 14 02:44:16 <BTC-Mining>	I'm now well tooled to quickly check margin vs fee for MKOPT compared to current bids
Oct 14 02:44:58 <BTC-Mining>	Will rack you some 2% fees
Oct 14 02:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10516 @ 0.00041041 = 4.3159 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18401 @ 0.00041054 = 7.5543 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.000411 = 10.4394 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46124 @ 0.00041198 = 19.0022 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00041222 = 8.8627 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45399 @ 0.00041238 = 18.7216 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49900 @ 0.00041265 = 20.5912 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53001 @ 0.00041351 = 21.9164 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12917 @ 0.00041479 = 5.3578 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00041609 = 11.3176 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.0004177 = 12.7816 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00041876 = 10.469 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 434042 @ 0.00042 = 182.2976 BTC [+]
Oct 14 02:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	whee
Oct 14 02:45:44 <BTC-Mining>	Someone saw massive profit from 2% fees? Let me start trading first!
Oct 14 02:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 14 02:59:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 25 @ 0.0213913 = 0.5348 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 03:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00041239 = 4.0827 BTC [-]
Oct 14 03:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27818 @ 0.00041474 = 11.5372 BTC [+]
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Oct 14 03:43:53 <BTC-Mining>	well, goodbye everyone
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Oct 14 03:47:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12982 @ 0.00041474 = 5.3842 BTC [+]
Oct 14 03:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107018 @ 0.00042 = 44.9476 BTC [+]
Oct 14 03:57:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P020T] 13 @ 0.02723297 = 0.354 BTC [+]
Oct 14 03:57:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P020T] 8 @ 0.02582572 = 0.2066 BTC [-]
Oct 14 03:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P020T] 39 @ 0.02274183 = 0.8869 BTC [-]
Oct 14 03:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P020T] 47 @ 0.01999854 = 0.9399 BTC [-]
Oct 14 03:57:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P020T] 30 @ 0.01744936 = 0.5235 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 04:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41400 @ 0.00041693 = 17.2609 BTC [-]
Oct 14 04:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.0004139 = 4.0976 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 04:52:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17867 @ 0.00041864 = 7.4798 BTC [+]
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Oct 14 05:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7668 @ 0.0004139 = 3.1738 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 05:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00041489 = 0.7053 BTC [+]
Oct 14 05:42:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1132 @ 0.0004139 = 0.4685 BTC [-]
Oct 14 05:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00041289 = 4.2941 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 06:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20372 @ 0.00041198 = 8.3929 BTC [-]
Oct 14 06:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00041198 = 11.0823 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 06:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00041198 = 0.206 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 07:24:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20601 @ 0.00041097 = 8.4664 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 07:49:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00041097 = 13.973 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 08:03:43 <EskimoBob>	ART-OTC will be paying weekly div's from coin that sits on the account until the equipment arrives. Ex date is Wednesday around 19.00 UTC
Oct 14 08:15:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00041117 = 7.73 BTC [+]
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Oct 14 08:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00041117 = 6.9899 BTC [+]
Oct 14 08:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00041138 = 0.0411 BTC [+]
Oct 14 09:06:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3199 @ 0.00041097 = 1.3147 BTC [-]
Oct 14 09:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00041008 = 10.088 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 09:58:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00041021 = 14.7265 BTC [+]
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Oct 14 10:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15302 @ 0.00041021 = 6.277 BTC [+]
Oct 14 10:26:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31398 @ 0.00041087 = 12.9005 BTC [+]
Oct 14 10:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 8 @ 0.08299482 = 0.664 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 11:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00041008 = 0.2871 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:05:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21118 @ 0.00040983 = 8.6548 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20782 @ 0.00040941 = 8.5084 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5276 @ 0.00040941 = 2.16 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00040901 = 5.1535 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38200 @ 0.0004086 = 15.6085 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58749 @ 0.00040827 = 23.9855 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3024 @ 0.00040806 = 1.234 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27899 @ 0.0004078 = 11.3772 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50126 @ 0.00040774 = 20.4384 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00040723 = 13.52 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29510 @ 0.00040714 = 12.0147 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56000 @ 0.0004069 = 22.7864 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00040673 = 16.1879 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27466 @ 0.00040636 = 11.1611 BTC [-]
Oct 14 11:30:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00040628 = 7.374 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 11:49:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 11:54:22 <aethero>	So mpex is now the largest exchange after glbse?
Oct 14 11:54:59 <pigeons>	was larger before according to some
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Oct 14 12:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32745 @ 0.00040628 = 13.3036 BTC [-]
Oct 14 12:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00040622 = 9.0587 BTC [-]
Oct 14 12:15:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3355 @ 0.00040596 = 1.362 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 12:42:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1045 @ 0.00040596 = 0.4242 BTC [-]
Oct 14 12:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00040588 = 1.2176 BTC [-]
Oct 14 12:42:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00040573 = 4.0573 BTC [-]
Oct 14 12:42:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00040566 = 7.7887 BTC [-]
Oct 14 12:42:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 855 @ 0.00040515 = 0.3464 BTC [-]
Oct 14 12:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00040657 = 5.6107 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53300 @ 0.00040669 = 21.6766 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40020 @ 0.00040732 = 16.3009 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00040901 = 1.636 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11803 @ 0.00041087 = 4.8495 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12859 @ 0.00041138 = 5.2899 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29592 @ 0.0004121 = 12.1949 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00041241 = 8.207 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3648 @ 0.0004144 = 1.5117 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3295 @ 0.00041463 = 1.3662 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51100 @ 0.00041695 = 21.3061 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7143 @ 0.00041789 = 2.985 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4097 @ 0.00041864 = 1.7152 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00041903 = 3.9808 BTC [+]
Oct 14 12:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1735943 @ 0.00042 = 729.0961 BTC [+]
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Oct 14 12:47:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 180 @ 0.0032 = 0.576 BTC [-]
Oct 14 12:54:17 <smickles>	Azelphur: did i receive anything from glbse yet? Yes, the btc which was in the mpoe.etf account. Nothing more.
Oct 14 12:54:41 <Azelphur>	smickles: aww :(
Oct 14 12:55:38 <EskimoBob>	take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIxH6DToXQ live Red Bull Stratos - freefall from the edge of space
Oct 14 12:56:45 <mircea_popescu>	smickles not the otjher, ss or what was it ?
Oct 14 12:58:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/261863-us-ambassador-warns-internet-fee-proposal-gaining-momentum-abroad hey, they still hope to tax it
Oct 14 12:59:39 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: not the ojher (ss) and not my brokerage account yet
Oct 14 12:59:46 <smickles>	"brokerage"
Oct 14 12:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	wow !?
Oct 14 12:59:55 <mircea_popescu>	so in the end just some accts ?
Oct 14 13:00:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 3 @ 0.08225983 = 0.2468 BTC [-]
Oct 14 13:00:32 <smickles>	seems so
Oct 14 13:01:05 <smickles>	this may indicate that there is a minimum balance to have inorder to be paid
Oct 14 13:01:21 <smickles>	the SS account only had a couple hundred satoshi
Oct 14 13:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Oct 14 13:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	ya i think multiple ppl reported roundings
Oct 14 13:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	so basically, all accts were paid their btc balance is the correct statement
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Oct 14 13:03:21 <smickles>	if we consider two of my accounts to be 'below the round' i suppose we can say all my accounts were paid their btc
Oct 14 13:03:50 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: this would indicate that over 3/4 of mpoe.etf shareholders got out before the fall
Oct 14 13:04:32 <mircea_popescu>	smickles pretty good then
Oct 14 13:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	very sloppy way to close things, ignoring some accts for being below the round, obviously
Oct 14 13:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	but in the circumstances...
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Oct 14 13:08:59 <smickles>	in 'principal', it's wrong to round off some accounts like that
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Oct 14 13:16:40 <mircea_popescu>	principle lol
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Oct 14 13:19:23 <smickles>	heh, i thoung you might like that one ;)
Oct 14 13:19:28 <smickles>	*thought
Oct 14 13:19:48 <Diablo-D3>	sup
Oct 14 13:19:57 <smickles>	nm here, you?
Oct 14 13:20:02 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 14 13:20:03 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.95, Best ask: 11.9625, Bid-ask spread: 0.01250, Last trade: 11.9625, 24 hour volume: 12355, 24 hour low: 11.8502, 24 hour high: 12
Oct 14 13:20:08 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 14 13:20:10 <gribble>	11.85
Oct 14 13:20:22 <Diablo-D3>	tired, really
Oct 14 13:20:29 <Diablo-D3>	and my box failed to unhibernate correctly
Oct 14 13:21:35 <Diablo-D3>	no news from captain jackass?
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Oct 14 13:21:49 <smickles>	I seem to have received some btc
Oct 14 13:22:09 <smickles>	and had a couple of account counted to be worth too little to pay back
Oct 14 13:24:46 <PsychoticBoy>	I recieved Only the btc in my private account (7.4 btc)
Oct 14 13:25:32 <PsychoticBoy>	ABM and FDBF is still pending, just like all the assets/shares I own
Oct 14 13:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00040515 = 15.7603 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 13:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	PsychoticBoy hm, smickles got the btc from the mpoe acct.
Oct 14 13:36:21 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: I guess the bfl bet is dead now
Oct 14 13:36:35 <Diablo-D3>	too little to pay out on
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Oct 14 13:39:08 <Azelphur>	just received this email "Your GLBSE account has been processed for bitcoin. The next step will be to send you information about your assets, and to provide this information to issuers (if you agreed) allowing you to continue your relationship with your issuers."
Oct 14 13:39:53 <mircea_popescu>	no date or anything ?
Oct 14 13:40:01 <Azelphur>	nope
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Oct 14 13:41:45 <thestringpuller>	lol you guys got a glbse email too?
Oct 14 13:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	twhs
Oct 14 13:51:41 <PsychoticBoy>	nope, no email recieved
Oct 14 13:51:57 <Diablo-D3>	[amsg] guy jumps from space, live now: http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/
Oct 14 13:53:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1945 @ 0.00040515 = 0.788 BTC [-]
Oct 14 13:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37455 @ 0.00040466 = 15.1565 BTC [-]
Oct 14 13:53:57 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: that's really cool (I skydive)
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Oct 14 14:20:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16145 @ 0.00040466 = 6.5332 BTC [-]
Oct 14 14:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18710 @ 0.0004045 = 7.5682 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 14:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27590 @ 0.0004045 = 11.1602 BTC [-]
Oct 14 14:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7610 @ 0.00040447 = 3.078 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 14:59:39 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: what are your plans if you get the GLBSE shareholders list?  Or let me ask this. have issuers agreed on some grand plan of moving to same "place" or something like that?
Oct 14 15:00:57 <EskimoBob>	I had like multiple stuff in my "portfolio" and if everyone walk in different direction, this is going to be a real PITA
Oct 14 15:03:39 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: dmc is shutting down still
Oct 14 15:03:47 <Diablo-D3>	so... meh
Oct 14 15:03:50 <Diablo-D3>	theres no way to handle this
Oct 14 15:04:13 <Diablo-D3>	hrm glbse paid out to me
Oct 14 15:04:21 <Diablo-D3>	a bunch of tiny amounts then 7.04
Oct 14 15:04:24 <Diablo-D3>	wonder what the 7.04 was
Oct 14 15:06:47 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: anyhow, yeah, it may end up that DMC shares are worth nothing
Oct 14 15:07:05 <Diablo-D3>	which is going to suck
Oct 14 15:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9673 @ 0.00040447 = 3.9124 BTC [-]
Oct 14 15:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30983 @ 0.00040444 = 12.5308 BTC [-]
Oct 14 15:15:32 <smickles>	.0004?
Oct 14 15:16:04 <smickles>	glbse pays and mpex rises, eh?
Oct 14 15:16:13 <EskimoBob>	yes, this sucks indeed unless you list them somewhere else.
Oct 14 15:16:38 <EskimoBob>	asstes-otc is actually a interesting concept
Oct 14 15:16:48 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: well, Im going to see if glbse gives me a list of all dmc holders
Oct 14 15:17:03 <Diablo-D3>	Ill see if I can just buy out all the smallest holders first
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Oct 14 15:18:10 <EskimoBob>	I think I had some shares left too :)
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Oct 14 15:22:32 <smickles>	ok, i'm fairly confident that only one of the glbse accounts which I controlled was 'processed'
Oct 14 15:22:53 <smickles>	i say this because i only received an email for the one, and not the otheres
Oct 14 15:30:34 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: did you get a bunch of tx spam though?
Oct 14 15:30:43 <Diablo-D3>	because I got a bunch of spam
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Oct 14 15:32:28 <jurov>	interesting, nobody added mpex to stumbleupon yet
Oct 14 15:39:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00040444 = 3.5591 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 15:45:42 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: tx spam? I don't get much spam other that penis pills and the like
Oct 14 15:52:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 6 @ 0.01749603 = 0.105 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 16:14:06 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: hurr
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Oct 14 16:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8317 @ 0.00040444 = 3.3637 BTC [-]
Oct 14 16:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00040438 = 16.984 BTC [-]
Oct 14 16:18:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7683 @ 0.00040434 = 3.1065 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 16:26:19 <Luceo>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89564.0 <-- ASIC Raffle ONE TIME OFFER (Next Taker Only) - Buy 6 tickets for 1.8 BTC, get 2 free (worth 0.6 BTC)
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Oct 14 16:32:14 <Luceo>	Wrong chat
Oct 14 16:33:02 <pigeons>	bfl is also doing an asic raffle
Oct 14 16:34:57 <BTC-Mining>	asic raffle?
Oct 14 16:39:36 <pigeons>	the winners get them before other asics come out, and 2nd place gets a product close to advertised specs at all ever
Oct 14 16:39:59 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Oct 14 16:42:14 <BTC-Mining>	eh
Oct 14 16:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00040434 = 0.4043 BTC [-]
Oct 14 16:52:52 <EskimoBob>	first trade in assets-otc :)
Oct 14 16:58:11 <BTC-Mining>	?
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Oct 14 17:01:29 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: did nefario give out asset lists ?
Oct 14 17:01:41 <Diablo-D3>	no
Oct 14 17:02:40 <Ukto>	man, what a tryhard
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Oct 14 17:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1217 @ 0.00040434 = 0.4921 BTC [-]
Oct 14 17:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20257 @ 0.00040404 = 8.1846 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 17:20:06 <thestringpuller>	Nefario is fuckin up
Oct 14 17:20:29 <thestringpuller>	But then again he can never do business in the BTC community again so it's kinda fair
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Oct 14 17:29:32 <Ukto>	i think a few ppl prolly will
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Oct 14 17:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8043 @ 0.00040404 = 3.2497 BTC [-]
Oct 14 17:34:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34357 @ 0.00040399 = 13.8799 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 17:55:12 <BTC-Mining>	Well, anyone seliing F.GIGA.ETF/S.BVPS?
Oct 14 17:57:02 <thestringpuller>	is giga on mpex now?
Oct 14 17:59:37 <rdponticelli>	There has always been an ETF
Oct 14 18:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00040399 = 8.8878 BTC [-]
Oct 14 18:00:45 <rdponticelli>	Now, who knows, it may turn into the main site to exchange it, or it may be renderer useless...
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Oct 14 18:16:35 <BTC-Mining>	Indeed
Oct 14 18:17:11 <BTC-Mining>	I actually purchased 534150 GIGA.ETF already eh
Oct 14 18:18:51 <smickles>	rdponticelli: how would it be rendered usless?
Oct 14 18:20:03 <rdponticelli>	Well, if for any cause ownership of the underlying can't be acertained
Oct 14 18:20:32 <rdponticelli>	Like the useless codes glbse gave to goat...
Oct 14 18:21:50 <smickles>	rdponticelli: i wonder if giga would just recognize the etf shares tho
Oct 14 18:22:12 <rdponticelli>	That would be great
Oct 14 18:22:25 <smickles>	The Owner will never own less shares of the underlying than the total float of this asset implies.
Oct 14 18:22:56 <smickles>	mircea_popescu would've broken his own contract to have ever sold those shares
Oct 14 18:23:59 <Diablo-D3>	speaking of which
Oct 14 18:24:01 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, but even if mircea_popescu owns those shares, the proof of that ownership is on glbse's hands
Oct 14 18:24:03 <Diablo-D3>	how are those etfs even functioning now
Oct 14 18:24:42 <smickles>	and i believe giga's signed receipt of the btc for the shares is in the contract too, so it's conceivable that he would honor it w/o any info coming from glbse
Oct 14 18:25:14 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: in the way 've just explained it
Oct 14 18:25:19 <smickles>	they have a contract
Oct 14 18:25:19 <rdponticelli>	smickles: yeah, there's a signed receipt for 900 shares
Oct 14 18:25:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4643 @ 0.00040399 = 1.8757 BTC [-]
Oct 14 18:25:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11557 @ 0.0004035 = 4.6632 BTC [-]
Oct 14 18:25:41 <rdponticelli>	Anyway, the float growed later
Oct 14 18:26:16 <smickles>	hmm, that complicates things
Oct 14 18:26:19 <rdponticelli>	But on last dividend the exchange payed only 3 weeks
Oct 14 18:26:55 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: I dont understand then
Oct 14 18:26:58 <rdponticelli>	So it seems like they were receiving their dividends through glbse
Oct 14 18:27:52 <rdponticelli>	mircea said they were paying the rest if/when the issue was solved
Oct 14 18:28:23 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: it's possible for giga to honor this arrangement with mircea w/o glbse involvement, so the shares have value
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Oct 14 18:28:33 <smickles>	we'll se what actually happens tho
Oct 14 18:28:35 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: did mircea buy them directly from giga?
Oct 14 18:29:34 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: i dunno, but in this possibility, he could've bought them on glbse
Oct 14 18:29:45 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Oct 14 18:29:47 <Diablo-D3>	well, I cant do the same
Oct 14 18:29:58 <Diablo-D3>	I cant honor any of the dmc shares left out there until glbse hands over the data =/
Oct 14 18:30:46 <smickles>	yeah, those etf shares are unique to this kerfuflle
Oct 14 18:31:49 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if I should just write off 800 btc and pretend it never existed
Oct 14 18:31:55 <Diablo-D3>	it would save a lot of trouble =/
Oct 14 18:33:33 <rdponticelli>	Maybe we just should pretend bitcoin itself never existed...
Oct 14 18:33:45 <rdponticelli>	No more trouble :)
Oct 14 18:34:06 <smickles>	and for that matter ...
Oct 14 18:34:11 <rdponticelli>	But no more fun :(
Oct 14 18:34:25 <Diablo-D3>	rdponticelli: honestly, Im thinking about it
Oct 14 18:34:26 <smickles>	huh, what were we talking about?
Oct 14 18:35:08 <rdponticelli>	Diablo-D3: you aren't quitting bitcoin, right?
Oct 14 18:35:27 <Diablo-D3>	rdponticelli: I dont know.
Oct 14 18:35:36 <Diablo-D3>	I cant say the effort I put into it has been worth it.
Oct 14 18:35:38 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: write it off!
Oct 14 18:35:44 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: that's what zynga did
Oct 14 18:36:41 <smickles>	why does every p2pool block show up in the blockchain.info 'strange transactions' page?
Oct 14 18:37:05 <Diablo-D3>	blockchain.info doesnt like gen tx spam
Oct 14 18:37:11 <Diablo-D3>	surprised other pools dont pop up in it too
Oct 14 18:38:05 <kakobrekla>	00:28.41 ( Diablo-D3 ) smickles: did mircea buy them directly from giga?
Oct 14 18:38:07 <kakobrekla>	yup
Oct 14 18:38:21 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: thats why he can verify them, I guess
Oct 14 18:38:37 <smickles>	well, kakobrekla, by your word, then the etf should be in good shape
Oct 14 18:38:50 <thestringpuller>	so giga is on mpex now?
Oct 14 18:38:53 <kakobrekla>	he said he is getting paid directly
Oct 14 18:39:05 <smickles>	thestringpuller: not exactly,
Oct 14 18:39:27 <rdponticelli>	kakobrekla: but last dividends, he paid only for 3 weeks
Oct 14 18:39:29 <smickles>	there has for some time been something like a depositary receipt of gigaminin on mpex
Oct 14 18:40:02 <rdponticelli>	And said the rest would be paid out if/when the issues got solved
Oct 14 18:40:16 <kakobrekla>	maybe giga is holding everything back?
Oct 14 18:40:51 <rdponticelli>	I don't know... he was concerned about legal stuff too...
Oct 14 18:41:33 <kakobrekla>	well mps words are "i pay what giga pays [directly to me]"
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Oct 14 18:46:00 <smickles>	dam, now this is a ToS http://www.hashpower.com/?page=terms
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Oct 14 18:47:42 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Oct 14 18:47:44 <gribble>	3054627.5269486
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Oct 14 18:50:22 <rdponticelli>	kakobrekla: those were mircea's words, on dividend day:
Oct 14 18:50:26 <rdponticelli>	[09:53:54] <assbot> [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] [PAID] 1000000 @ 0.00003459 = 34.58804 BTC
Oct 14 18:50:26 <rdponticelli>	[09:55:38] <mircea_popescu> that's three weeks that were actually paid. if/when giga manages to sort out the glbbq mess there'll be more.
Oct 14 18:51:31 <kakobrekla>	im guessing he is not doing a partial payment http://gigamining.com/
Oct 14 18:51:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52300 @ 0.00040404 = 21.1313 BTC [+]
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Oct 14 19:18:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00040352 = 2.865 BTC [-]
Oct 14 19:18:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00040476 = 7.569 BTC [+]
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Oct 14 19:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00040476 = 3.1571 BTC [+]
Oct 14 19:43:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00040522 = 6.9698 BTC [+]
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Oct 14 19:49:13 <smickles>	;;seen usagi
Oct 14 19:49:14 <gribble>	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <usagi> We own 2000 shares.. should be good if glbse comes up :/
Oct 14 19:59:55 <smickles>	;;getrating usagi
Oct 14 19:59:56 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Usagi, rated since Mon Jun 18 09:33:55 2012. Cumulative rating 43, from 28 total ratings. Received ratings: 27 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 32 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Usagi
Oct 14 20:00:37 <smickles>	;;rated usagi
Oct 14 20:00:37 <gribble>	You rated user usagi on Mon Sep 17 19:56:21 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: I have made a limited arangement with ~. we'll se how it goes.
Oct 14 20:01:59 <smickles>	;;rate usagi -1 I have made a limited arangement with ~. we'll se how it goes. ~ is now late in paying and will have defaulted on the contract by the end of tody if action is not taken.
Oct 14 20:02:00 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user usagi has changed from 1 to -1.
Oct 14 20:03:44 <smickles>	well, really 'today' was over 3 min ago
Oct 14 20:04:01 <smickles>	but i'll give usagi until today is over in arizona time
Oct 14 20:04:19 <Ukto>	smickles: lol, you liked my ToS ? :P
Oct 14 20:04:49 <BTC-Mining>	What kind of arrangement?
Oct 14 20:04:59 <smickles>	Ukto: it's entertaining, at least :)
Oct 14 20:05:12 <BTC-Mining>	Usagi better reappear pretty soon.
Oct 14 20:05:22 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: a loan from s²cm to cpa
Oct 14 20:05:43 <Ukto>	smickles: I just wanted to be very clear about things up front. :P
Oct 14 20:05:48 <BTC-Mining>	eh... well with GLBSE having the funds, you know...
Oct 14 20:06:04 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: glbse paid back funds today
Oct 14 20:06:20 <BTC-Mining>	Not for everyone as far as I know
Oct 14 20:06:30 <BTC-Mining>	at least it's not fully completed
Oct 14 20:06:48 <smickles>	ah, well, also, usagi claimed to have the funds to pay on this contract even after glbse went down
Oct 14 20:06:54 <smickles>	and mad a payment too, iirc
Oct 14 20:07:09 <BTC-Mining>	oh
Oct 14 20:07:23 <BTC-Mining>	So... what is he doing, not showing up?
Oct 14 20:07:47 <BTC-Mining>	Who will I pay for all those BTC-Mining shares he held in BMF?
Oct 14 20:07:57 <smickles>	i sent off an email just a moment ago
Oct 14 20:08:17 <smickles>	today is the last day of a late payment date range
Oct 14 20:08:47 <smickles>	and I haven't seen/heardfrom usagi for about a week
Oct 14 20:09:10 <BTC-Mining>	...
Oct 14 20:09:32 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: want to see the contract? curious?
Oct 14 20:10:02 <BTC-Mining>	Nah, I'm sure it exists and the exact terms are not really of interest.
Oct 14 20:10:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00040522 = 0.081 BTC [+]
Oct 14 20:10:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00040572 = 1.2983 BTC [+]
Oct 14 20:10:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00040592 = 8.8085 BTC [+]
Oct 14 20:10:35 <BTC-Mining>	Well, I might have just earned a few thousands at the expense of BMF's investors -.-
Oct 14 20:11:13 <Ukto>	wonder when nef. will give out asset lists
Oct 14 20:11:16 <Ukto>	*if
Oct 14 20:11:40 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: if i have proof that usagi owes me btc, and you have btc owed to usagi... would you mind sending it on to me :)
Oct 14 20:12:42 <BTC-Mining>	I don't know how much shares he had. But I suppose if he signed it with his gpg key, I could indeed pay interests to you for his debt.
Oct 14 20:14:08 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: it's signed alright ;) well wait to see if he defaults in arizona time, instead of UTC tho, give a little wiggleroom
Oct 14 20:20:38 <smickles>	if anyone is curious, i've decided to post the contract on bitbin
Oct 14 20:20:40 <smickles>	http://bitbin.it/nPDQRLME
Oct 14 20:22:12 <smickles>	oh, usagi is about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114820.msg1271570#msg1271570
Oct 14 20:22:22 <smickles>	that was about 7 hrs ago
Oct 14 20:22:35 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder how hes doing
Oct 14 20:23:39 <thestringpuller>	usagi is hurting bad
Oct 14 20:23:42 <smickles>	not good if he can't make an ~11 btc payment
Oct 14 20:23:47 <thestringpuller>	Nyan is pretty much fucked
Oct 14 20:25:14 <Diablo-D3>	so
Oct 14 20:25:35 <smickles>	so
Oct 14 20:26:06 <Diablo-D3>	I dont know =/
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Oct 14 20:30:43 <BTC-Mining>	"Lol just fuck off dude. You got nothing, and the best you can do is necroaccount and necrothread."
Oct 14 20:31:07 <BTC-Mining>	Wow... do I need to pick up Usagi's GLBSE account now or what?
Oct 14 20:31:47 <thestringpuller>	Usagi has lost his mind.
Oct 14 20:31:54 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: awesome, eh? as he was about 7 hours (if we're using utc time) away from defaulting on a contract
Oct 14 20:32:17 <thestringpuller>	smickles: is he late?
Oct 14 20:32:45 <smickles>	not only late, thestringpuller, but outside of the late payment clause
Oct 14 20:32:48 <smickles>	thestringpuller: http://bitbin.it/nPDQRLME
Oct 14 20:33:04 <smickles>	check blockchain.info for the payment dates
Oct 14 20:33:08 <thestringpuller>	okay
Oct 14 20:34:51 <thestringpuller>	smickles: daaaaamn
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Oct 14 20:35:05 <thestringpuller>	So he's in default?
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Oct 14 20:36:19 <smickles>	thestringpuller: depends on what timezone we're using
Oct 14 20:36:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00040469 = 0.607 BTC [-]
Oct 14 20:36:37 <smickles>	if UTC, then yes
Oct 14 20:37:02 <thestringpuller>	i know usagi works in japan
Oct 14 20:37:10 <thestringpuller>	so maybe not utc?
Oct 14 20:37:22 <thestringpuller>	I feel a little bad for him. CPA was a pretty neat company.
Oct 14 20:39:42 <smickles>	if we go by jst, then he has about 8 hours to make an (approx.) 11 btc payment to hold off default, but remain late on todays payment
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Oct 14 20:42:35 <thestringpuller>	Dude the btc economy is tanking
Oct 14 20:42:54 <thestringpuller>	looking at mtgox live just makes me sad
Oct 14 20:44:07 <Diablo-D3>	http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/384355_4066797863173_618082375_n.jpg
Oct 14 20:44:30 <BTC-Mining>	what the heck are you talking about, thestringpuller?
Oct 14 20:44:40 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: :D
Oct 14 20:44:46 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 14 20:45:01 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: probably the declining volume over time
Oct 14 20:45:04 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 14 20:45:09 <thestringpuller>	declining volume over time
Oct 14 20:45:11 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 14 20:45:24 <thestringpuller>	I thought we were in the clear and it would stabilize at 12 USD
Oct 14 20:45:28 <thestringpuller>	but nope
Oct 14 20:45:34 <thestringpuller>	still on the rollercoaster
Oct 14 20:45:38 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 14 20:45:39 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.7122, Best ask: 11.75268, Bid-ask spread: 0.04048, Last trade: 11.79, 24 hour volume: 23280, 24 hour low: 11.496, 24 hour high: 12.03
Oct 14 20:45:44 <noagendamarket>	going back to 2 P
Oct 14 20:45:46 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 14 20:45:47 <gribble>	11.82
Oct 14 20:45:51 <BTC-Mining>	seems pretty minor
Oct 14 20:45:55 <BTC-Mining>	of a drop
Oct 14 20:46:04 <BTC-Mining>	just someone dropping a lot of BTC
Oct 14 20:46:10 <smickles>	wow, .1 usd off of the 24 hour weighted average?
Oct 14 20:46:10 <thestringpuller>	in comparison to pirate's default or the gawker bubble
Oct 14 20:46:43 <noagendamarket>	nefario is dumping :D
Oct 14 20:46:46 <thestringpuller>	XD
Oct 14 20:47:22 <BTC-Mining>	Nefario actually paid out =/
Oct 14 20:47:39 <dub>	no he didnt
Oct 14 20:47:47 <smickles>	lol, i mean, it's likely nefario has/had more btc than I do, but damn, i'm sure he's a small fish
Oct 14 20:47:57 <BTC-Mining>	I got paid my account in full
Oct 14 20:48:08 <BTC-Mining>	and there's many other people claiming to have been paid =/
Oct 14 20:48:11 <smickles>	1 of 3 of my accounts was paid
Oct 14 20:48:33 <dub>	nobody is claiming he restored the former value of their shares
Oct 14 20:48:48 <BTC-Mining>	yeah, I was strictly talking of balances
Oct 14 20:48:50 <smickles>	does any sane person expect that?
Oct 14 20:49:14 <thestringpuller>	he hasn't released information to the issuers yet...
Oct 14 20:49:27 <thestringpuller>	also why isn't the SEC going after MPEX?
Oct 14 20:49:31 <noagendamarket>	hes bl;ackmailing the BG partners over it
Oct 14 20:50:20 <smickles>	thestringpuller: mpex falls under the romainian version of the sec, if at all
Oct 14 20:50:21 <noagendamarket>	unless he basically gets everything thats left over after the payouts he wont release the asset details
Oct 14 20:50:38 <BTC-Mining>	the SEC has no freaking jurisdiction around the whole freaking globe
Oct 14 20:50:43 <smickles>	thestringpuller: those romainian lawyers see bitcoin as WOW gold
Oct 14 20:50:47 <noagendamarket>	ie extortion
Oct 14 20:51:10 <dub>	smickles: as long as these 'sane' people aren't also congratulating nefario on handling this in the best way possible
Oct 14 20:51:11 <smickles>	and the mpex securities as part of a computer game
Oct 14 20:51:38 <smickles>	dub: that sort of 'sane' person would be an asshat
Oct 14 20:51:54 <BTC-Mining>	Can people stop talking about the SEC like it was some global organisation?
Oct 14 20:52:03 <BTC-Mining>	It's US only
Oct 14 20:52:09 <thestringpuller>	Just like the CIA is US only :P
Oct 14 20:52:10 <dub>	theres basically no way to cut it that doesnt paint nefario is a moronic scammer
Oct 14 20:53:16 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rboByPlU4IM
Oct 14 20:53:30 <BTC-Mining>	Well, unless someone proves me he's been blackmailing, I can only know for sure that he's a poor decision maker.
Oct 14 20:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	o hallo.
Oct 14 20:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	whats
Oct 14 20:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	new ?
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Oct 14 20:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob explain this cool concept of assets-otc.
Oct 14 20:55:19 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: new: http://bitbin.it/nPDQRLME (but not exactly glbse)
Oct 14 20:55:36 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: that's a funny video
Oct 14 20:55:54 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: < noagendamarket> unless he [nefario] basically gets everything thats left over after the payouts he wont release the asset details
Oct 14 20:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli the float growed a little, but it wasn't ever much more than 1.2-1.3k or so.
Oct 14 20:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	and at the time glbse went bust it was ~1.08k iirc
Oct 14 20:56:25 <pigeons>	smickles: did CPA need to make payouts at some point? is that what the loan was for?
Oct 14 20:56:30 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: yes, I know
Oct 14 20:56:59 <smickles>	pigeons: depending on the timezone you use, usagi/cpa is about to or has just recently defaulted
Oct 14 20:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla that buy was pre-glbse ipo, giga delivered shares on glbse, it's not a private agreement in any way.
Oct 14 20:57:04 <rdponticelli>	And is allowed by the contract, as long as you have the backinv
Oct 14 20:57:46 <noagendamarket>	Usagi borrowed coins to pump and dump BMA lol
Oct 14 20:57:47 <smickles>	pigeons: "3. Payments will be made each Sunday until six payments have been made.
Oct 14 20:57:50 <smickles>	"
Oct 14 20:57:55 <pigeons>	smickles: yeah i was wondering what cpa's purpose was for the original loan. did they use it to pay something they insured??
Oct 14 20:58:30 <pigeons>	its one thing for usagi to be a tool, its another that he got mad when people pointed it out
Oct 14 20:58:42 <smickles>	pigeons: oh, i think it may have been used to buy back shares of something or other
Oct 14 20:58:52 <smickles>	but that would be a speculative statement
Oct 14 20:59:02 <pigeons>	well good luck with recovery
Oct 14 20:59:07 <kakobrekla>	ah mircea_popescu, so you are glbse dependend... sorry then, i was sure you werent.
Oct 14 20:59:16 <noagendamarket>	usagi bouhgt back his own personal shares :P
Oct 14 21:00:50 <pigeons>	well usagi is concentrating on paying rent
Oct 14 21:00:59 <pigeons>	he borrowed against his salary
Oct 14 21:01:19 <pigeons>	s/he
Oct 14 21:01:57 <thestringpuller>	oh man
Oct 14 21:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	<noagendamarket> unless he basically gets everything thats left over after the payouts he wont release the asset details <<< and to think you've been an ass all over the forum @ the girl.
Oct 14 21:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.0004035 = 12.8313 BTC [-]
Oct 14 21:02:43 <noagendamarket>	meh
Oct 14 21:02:58 <smickles>	pigeons: if he knew that he couldn't pay, then he should've at least contacted me to work something out
Oct 14 21:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i was just reading that, didn't know they're leaking it out now.
Oct 14 21:03:15 <dub>	is gox fucked?
Oct 14 21:03:25 <pigeons>	smickles: absolutely. i'm not excusing shim
Oct 14 21:03:35 <smickles>	shim :)
Oct 14 21:03:38 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 14 21:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla inasmuch as the giga holdings, i was. guy wouldn't keep it private, what can i tell you.
Oct 14 21:03:42 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 14 21:03:43 <mircea_popescu>	not like i didn't suggest it.
Oct 14 21:04:13 <mircea_popescu>	why is gox fucked ?!
Oct 14 21:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 14 21:04:15 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.57411, Best ask: 11.5999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02579, Last trade: 11.57411, 24 hour volume: 23229, 24 hour low: 11.496, 24 hour high: 12.03
Oct 14 21:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	meh.
Oct 14 21:04:38 <dub>	slow loads, ajax faggotry broken
Oct 14 21:05:07 <mircea_popescu>	that's periodic with them neh ?
Oct 14 21:05:43 <smickles>	oh jeez, i don't recall if i was long or short with my option position :o
Oct 14 21:05:51 <dub>	possibly the shitcocks operating my corp network
Oct 14 21:05:51 <thestringpuller>	FUCK
Oct 14 21:06:03 <thestringpuller>	gox is plummeting
Oct 14 21:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 14 21:06:27 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.57411, Best ask: 11.5998, Bid-ask spread: 0.02569, Last trade: 11.57419, 24 hour volume: 23239, 24 hour low: 11.496, 24 hour high: 12.03
Oct 14 21:06:29 <dub>	FUCK SELL ALL THE COINS
Oct 14 21:06:30 <pigeons>	not that bad $11.50-6-
Oct 14 21:06:35 <mircea_popescu>	wtf lol.
Oct 14 21:06:38 <BTC-Mining>	I also complained about "the girl", not for believing that GLBSE was a scam (She's free to believe whatever she wants) but for supporting her claims with unfounded statements and speculations which were false and presented as established facts.
Oct 14 21:06:48 <dub>	thestringpuller: first week in bitcoin eh?
Oct 14 21:07:08 <BTC-Mining>	I'd think so...
Oct 14 21:07:09 <thestringpuller>	dub: no I just didn't think the damage done by GLBSE would reach this far
Oct 14 21:07:23 <thestringpuller>	I was thinking stability at around 11.98
Oct 14 21:07:27 <noagendamarket>	its gonna get worse
Oct 14 21:07:28 <dub>	thestringpuller: I'd suggest its not, this  is a tiny movement
Oct 14 21:07:41 <BTC-Mining>	That's a very minor movement
Oct 14 21:07:48 <pigeons>	pretty meaningless
Oct 14 21:07:50 <BTC-Mining>	Check the 1 month chart on GLBSE
Oct 14 21:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining on one hand that's a gross exaggeration, on the other there's little similarity between you and the bitcoin.me fellow.
Oct 14 21:08:20 <thestringpuller>	BTC-Mining: who is "the girl" sounds like a spy
Oct 14 21:08:33 <BTC-Mining>	MPEx's PR person
Oct 14 21:08:40 <pigeons>	"the girl" is what mircea_popescu calls himself when we talk on skype
Oct 14 21:08:45 <BTC-Mining>	Conveniently known as MPOE-PR
Oct 14 21:08:46 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 14 21:08:52 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 14 21:09:02 <noagendamarket>	s/he
Oct 14 21:09:05 <Diablo-D3>	https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=how+long+until+the+end+of+the+world
Oct 14 21:09:06 <dub>	the real question is, where is the uncropped avatar pic
Oct 14 21:09:07 <Diablo-D3>	AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
Oct 14 21:09:08 <smickles>	another shim
Oct 14 21:09:28 <noagendamarket>	why are there so many traps in bitcoinland ?
Oct 14 21:09:38 <noagendamarket>	:P
Oct 14 21:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons we talk on skype !?
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Oct 14 21:10:12 <dub>	Diablo-D3: that'll e why nefario closed glbse..
Oct 14 21:10:15 <noagendamarket>	the MPOE avatar is cropped so you cant see its penis
Oct 14 21:10:21 <dub>	be*
Oct 14 21:10:30 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 14 21:10:34 <dub>	noagendamarket: exactly, NEEDS MOAR PENIX
Oct 14 21:10:38 <pigeons>	skype/adultfriendfinder/chatroulette/whatever
Oct 14 21:10:45 <mircea_popescu>	why are you all such fags
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Oct 14 21:10:55 <dub>	mircea_popescu: internet
Oct 14 21:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	o right.
Oct 14 21:11:06 <noagendamarket>	too much /b/
Oct 14 21:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	carry onwards.
Oct 14 21:11:13 <BTC-Mining>	<mircea_popescu> BTC-Mining on one hand that's a gross exaggeration
Oct 14 21:11:59 <thestringpuller>	MPOE-PR is an illusion...
Oct 14 21:12:00 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Oct 14 21:12:02 <BTC-Mining>	What? She claimed among other things, for example, that Usagi was appointed by Nefario to manage a review panel deciding on what would or would not be allowed on GLBSE.
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Oct 14 21:12:19 <pigeons>	hey baby
Oct 14 21:12:24 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining that's afaik the only thing she said that you actually disputed, and you disputed it by your own testimony.
Oct 14 21:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	re-read your statement above, compare with "1 case where i personally don't agree with what she said". it doesn't wash.
Oct 14 21:12:43 <jesica>	what's up, hot stuff *kisu kisu*
Oct 14 21:12:55 <pigeons>	asl?
Oct 14 21:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	jesica = jcpham ?
Oct 14 21:13:07 <BTC-Mining>	yeah, but her posting history if full of such contested facts which she eventually admits she doesn't actually know if they're true or not.
Oct 14 21:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining links.
Oct 14 21:13:19 <jesica>	19/f/romanistan
Oct 14 21:13:29 <pigeons>	greatest country in the world
Oct 14 21:13:37 <thestringpuller>	murica?
Oct 14 21:13:38 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=how%20long%20until%20the%20end%20of%20the%20world
Oct 14 21:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	is that where all the gypsies are ?
Oct 14 21:13:41 <Diablo-D3>	*phew*
Oct 14 21:13:44 <pigeons>	my sister is #1 prostiture in all of romanistan
Oct 14 21:13:51 <jesica>	She claimed among other things, for example, that Usagi was appointed by Nefario to manage a  review panel deciding on what would or would not be allowed on GLBSE."" << i know that claim to be tru and have email logs of the pannel
Oct 14 21:13:51 <BTC-Mining>	arf, I don't want to browse her history again. But next time I see one, I'll report it to you if you want
Oct 14 21:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining lol actually, i think if i dig in the logs i can find usagi making the exact claim.
Oct 14 21:14:17 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Oct 14 21:14:23 <Diablo-D3>	did someone just claim they're 19 and female?
Oct 14 21:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	then again you can prolly find usagi making any claim you arbitrarily want to check for.
Oct 14 21:14:34 <jesica>	;)
Oct 14 21:14:42 <Diablo-D3>	damnit smickles
Oct 14 21:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol it was smix ?! omg.
Oct 14 21:14:55 *	jesica is now known as smickles
Oct 14 21:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	total troll, whodda thunk it. he looks so prim and proper...
Oct 14 21:15:12 <thestringpuller>	usagi sound controversial...
Oct 14 21:15:15 <thestringpuller>	sounds*
Oct 14 21:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	well he seemed ok for a while but then turned complete bonkerette.
Oct 14 21:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	which is like tourette except with stupidcrazy.
Oct 14 21:15:48 <BTC-Mining>	True, she based her fact on something Usagi claimed...
Oct 14 21:15:54 <smickles>	given enough time, the controversial rate of any bitcoiner goes to 1
Oct 14 21:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7800 @ 0.0032 = 24.96 BTC [-]
Oct 14 21:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 67200 @ 0.00337 = 226.464 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:16:13 <BTC-Mining>	but Usagi... is that really a source?
Oct 14 21:16:28 <Diablo-D3>	USAGI LIESSSS
Oct 14 21:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	well he'd have been a party you know ?
Oct 14 21:16:32 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: is this about that pannel existing?
Oct 14 21:16:35 <Diablo-D3>	actually, if usagi is supposed to be a japanese princess
Oct 14 21:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	fuck can keep track of it all, but it hardly amounts to what you're making out of it i think.
Oct 14 21:17:00 <Diablo-D3>	you'd think we could get a statement from a professional tentacle deamon on this
Oct 14 21:17:07 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 14 21:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha Diablo-D3 wins interwebs
Oct 14 21:17:13 <BTC-Mining>	No, about Usagi managing said panel and panel having authority to determine if assets were to be listed or not.
Oct 14 21:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	but wait. as to the later part : what else was it a panel for ? masturbatory onanism ?
Oct 14 21:17:40 <BTC-Mining>	He never was appointed by Nefario or given any decisive power
Oct 14 21:17:40 <dub>	wait, you mean usagi isnt a samurai rabbit?
Oct 14 21:17:47 <thestringpuller>	XD
Oct 14 21:17:52 <BTC-Mining>	dub: NO, oh GOD, NO!
Oct 14 21:17:54 <Diablo-D3>	usagi said there was going to be a panel and the glbse board signed off on it
Oct 14 21:18:01 <Diablo-D3>	nefario and usagi both said a few lies about that
Oct 14 21:18:07 <noagendamarket>	no there wasnt :P
Oct 14 21:18:26 <BTC-Mining>	As far as I know, there never was such a thing. Usagi proposed it and Nefario was considering.
Oct 14 21:18:26 <Diablo-D3>	no, nefario actually was repeating what usagi said
Oct 14 21:18:30 <Diablo-D3>	and then suddenly denied it
Oct 14 21:18:39 <BTC-Mining>	Yeah, something like that
Oct 14 21:18:41 <noagendamarket>	Nefario says a lot of things that are out there
Oct 14 21:18:54 <Diablo-D3>	so Im not sure who was lying
Oct 14 21:18:59 <BTC-Mining>	On the other hand mircea_popescu
Oct 14 21:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining the problem with nefario's statements is that he often contradicts what he pretended last time
Oct 14 21:19:04 <noagendamarket>	such as "your fake shares are real"
Oct 14 21:19:08 <noagendamarket>	LOL
Oct 14 21:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	i tend to recall this ridiculous Ven thing being a bluechip asset.
Oct 14 21:19:21 <noagendamarket>	yes it was
Oct 14 21:19:23 <smickles>	heh, BTC-Mining have you seen the founding post of that group?
Oct 14 21:19:29 <Diablo-D3>	noagendamarket: or "dmc will be shut down, diablo will go to bitcoin prison, and we'll get down to the truth"
Oct 14 21:19:37 <Diablo-D3>	and then he discovered the truth and didnt quite like it.
Oct 14 21:19:38 <BTC-Mining>	I also seem to have killed a scam accusation against MPEx
Oct 14 21:20:01 <dub>	did usagi get tagged in the end?
Oct 14 21:20:02 <BTC-Mining>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.msg1249202#msg1249202
Oct 14 21:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	oh ?
Oct 14 21:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	o yea, that. good point actually.
Oct 14 21:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it wasn't immediately obvious to people that as long as they keep the deposit slip they can prove depositing
Oct 14 21:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	in truth, much of the beauty of gpg is lost on the avg internet user.
Oct 14 21:21:28 <BTC-Mining>	I must admit I don't really keep them =/
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Oct 14 21:21:41 <noagendamarket>	lol Jonathan ERyan owens doesnt even have a scammer tag and Nefario does
Oct 14 21:21:56 <noagendamarket>	After he stole 9000 bitcoins :D
Oct 14 21:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	neither does kludge, nor that tradehill guy
Oct 14 21:22:08 <mircea_popescu>	w/e his name is
Oct 14 21:22:11 <mircea_popescu>	mckenna
Oct 14 21:22:16 <thestringpuller>	whatever happened to tradehill
Oct 14 21:22:18 <BTC-Mining>	But yeah, if I wanted to keep them/have a proof, it's all there
Oct 14 21:22:21 <smickles>	http://bitbin.it/9d8MqgBV
Oct 14 21:22:22 <smickles>	.title
Oct 14 21:22:23 <markac>	smickles: GLBSE Asset Review Board - BitBin
Oct 14 21:22:29 <noagendamarket>	well JRO and the tradehilol guy are working together
Oct 14 21:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	noagendamarket yes, at real estate development. with money. that they...umm... had.
Oct 14 21:23:05 <mircea_popescu>	all along.
Oct 14 21:23:05 <smickles>	what i posted there are the exact words describing the glbse pannel usagi used
Oct 14 21:23:07 <pigeons>	yeah but no more scamming for them, now it's real estate ;)
Oct 14 21:23:35 <BTC-Mining>	Yeah, it ended up being a suggestion only panel, not decision making panel.
Oct 14 21:23:39 <noagendamarket>	LOL im waiting for them to hire bruce
Oct 14 21:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller well they claimed that dwolla stole their money and closed.
Oct 14 21:23:50 <noagendamarket>	wagner
Oct 14 21:23:50 <BTC-Mining>	And Nefario never actually gave Usagi management of the panel list
Oct 14 21:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	its still unclear how much money they made off with tho.
Oct 14 21:24:06 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: yeah, that was lol, wasn't it
Oct 14 21:24:09 <thestringpuller>	man den of thieves...
Oct 14 21:24:13 <noagendamarket>	Nefario wont take suggestions from hisown shareholders ffs
Oct 14 21:24:16 <thestringpuller>	people need to manage their businesses better
Oct 14 21:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	maybe tghey just hire ed, and bruce starts shittalking them.
Oct 14 21:24:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54900 @ 0.00040367 = 22.1615 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:24:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10013 @ 0.00040592 = 4.0645 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:24:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.00040612 = 18.7627 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10896 @ 0.00040617 = 4.4256 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	besides, is bruce wagner even his real name ? iirc it was some famous guy in thr 50s
Oct 14 21:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61400 @ 0.00040651 = 24.9597 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00040804 = 12.5268 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20548 @ 0.00040869 = 8.3978 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45298 @ 0.00040916 = 18.5341 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00041062 = 0.4927 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00041243 = 6.4339 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00041287 = 10.7759 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52600 @ 0.00041436 = 21.7953 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00041788 = 4.0743 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1414795 @ 0.00042 = 594.2139 BTC [+]
Oct 14 21:25:17 <pigeons>	go mpoe
Oct 14 21:25:22 <smickles>	the rocket is a go
Oct 14 21:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	people keep charging at my wall all day
Oct 14 21:25:43 <smickles>	well, with btc tanking, those shares look cheaper and cheaper
Oct 14 21:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so.
Oct 14 21:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	not sure what people are so excited about, i doubt this month will equal last.
Oct 14 21:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	then again, only halfway in.
Oct 14 21:27:15 <noagendamarket>	scammers have performed a 51% attack :P
Oct 14 21:27:23 <smickles>	orly?
Oct 14 21:27:54 <noagendamarket>	yeah they own the majority of bitcoins lol
Oct 14 21:28:01 <mircea_popescu>	well seriously, outside of the adam&mark bunch over at mtgox, who exactly is trustworthy atm
Oct 14 21:28:43 <noagendamarket>	everything is shady as
Oct 14 21:28:45 <smickles>	well, no one in this room, ofc
Oct 14 21:29:25 <smickles>	that pigeons, least of all
Oct 14 21:30:51 <thestringpuller>	lol scammers own 50% of the bitcoins
Oct 14 21:30:52 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the gold people, casascicusasciuscu, coingenuity and who else... that us gold coins thing still in business ?
Oct 14 21:31:02 <smickles>	dude,
Oct 14 21:31:09 <smickles>	.py 35.6743594023 / 30
Oct 14 21:31:09 <markac>	1.18914531341
Oct 14 21:31:14 <thestringpuller>	casascius makes some good stuff
Oct 14 21:31:16 <BTC-Mining>	yeah, who trust pigeons? They only tarnish monuments in cities and steal food. Not very trustable.
Oct 14 21:31:37 <smickles>	my bot has made 18% in about a week
Oct 14 21:31:40 <noagendamarket>	spendbitcoins is trustworthy
Oct 14 21:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons can be trusted to make a pretty decent meal...
Oct 14 21:31:50 <dub>	yeah.. aslo syphalis
Oct 14 21:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	and i guess the guy with the blockchain wallet.
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Oct 14 21:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	even theymos made a good impression in the end with his entire shares thing.
Oct 14 21:32:24 <BTC-Mining>	A bit? What kind of bot?
Oct 14 21:32:28 <noagendamarket>	satoshi left because eventually everyone will end up with a scammer tag lol
Oct 14 21:32:33 <mircea_popescu>	no actually, if you actually hanker down and count heads, the scammers aren't a majority. they just seem like it cause they get more press.
Oct 14 21:32:33 <BTC-Mining>	A bot?*
Oct 14 21:32:41 <mircea_popescu>	when's the last time anyone bothered with the good people.
Oct 14 21:32:44 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: all it's doing is taking the bitfloor liquidity rebate
Oct 14 21:32:52 <thestringpuller>	smickles is good people
Oct 14 21:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	ya but he's married.
Oct 14 21:33:22 <thestringpuller>	isn't nefario married?
Oct 14 21:33:26 <noagendamarket>	yes
Oct 14 21:33:28 <thestringpuller>	and has kids?
Oct 14 21:33:31 <noagendamarket>	yes
Oct 14 21:33:49 <mircea_popescu>	must suck if any of their schoolmates had glbse shares.
Oct 14 21:33:51 <smickles>	hey, i'm married and have a kid
Oct 14 21:34:12 <thestringpuller>	married people = trustworthy?
Oct 14 21:34:20 <thestringpuller>	need to get me a wife then
Oct 14 21:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	better get a husband.
Oct 14 21:34:34 <smickles>	lol
Oct 14 21:34:50 <BTC-Mining>	No, married people are less trustworthy and more at the same time. More because they can't afford prison... less because they can't afford prison...
Oct 14 21:34:51 <smickles>	changing times, eh
Oct 14 21:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	confucius say, two husbands more trustworthy than one.
Oct 14 21:35:05 <smickles>	i should've married that tree when i had the chance
Oct 14 21:35:16 <noagendamarket>	yeah they can use leverqage on married people
Oct 14 21:35:25 <BTC-Mining>	smickles: wow, a tree? You totally should have.
Oct 14 21:35:37 <mircea_popescu>	was it a beech ?
Oct 14 21:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	(o sorry, i mean birtch)
Oct 14 21:35:53 <smickles>	dammit mircea_popescu, stealing my thunder
Oct 14 21:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol me?!
Oct 14 21:36:05 <thestringpuller>	"The king asks Archimedes to determine if a present he's received is actually solid gold. Unsolved problem at the time. It tortures the great Greek mathematician for weeks - insomnia haunts him and he twists and turns in his bed for nights on end. Finally, his equally exhausted wife - she's forced to share a bed with this genius - convinces him to take a bath to relax. While he's entering the tub, Archimedes not
Oct 14 21:36:41 <smickles>	cliff hanger
Oct 14 21:36:46 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 14 21:36:53 <thestringpuller>	the moral is listen to your wife!
Oct 14 21:37:11 <noagendamarket>	sniper ?
Oct 14 21:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	archimedes wasn't even married, it was his slavegirl cooksucker.
Oct 14 21:37:23 <noagendamarket>	candlejack ?
Oct 14 21:37:50 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu LOL
Oct 14 21:37:54 <smickles>	i thought you wern't supposed to mention that guy noagendamarket
Oct 14 21:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly, we don't know if he was ever married or had kids.
Oct 14 21:38:03 <novusordo>	cooksucker? she sucked at cooking?
Oct 14 21:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	it'd seem he was alone at the time of death tho
Oct 14 21:38:21 <thestringpuller>	that was a quote from the movie Pi
Oct 14 21:38:23 <mircea_popescu>	novusordo you're mispronouncing it :D
Oct 14 21:38:23 <thestringpuller>	btw
Oct 14 21:38:31 <noagendamarket>	Im 80% sure someone yhas purchased slaves for bitcoin
Oct 14 21:38:45 <thestringpuller>	That made me a little sad noagendamarket
Oct 14 21:38:48 <mircea_popescu>	then again 80% of statistics are only true 20% of the time.
Oct 14 21:38:49 <BTC-Mining>	[21:38] <novusordo> cooksucker? she sucked at cooking?
Oct 14 21:38:56 <BTC-Mining>	No, Archimedes was the cook...
Oct 14 21:38:59 <noagendamarket>	hahah cooksucker
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Oct 14 21:42:26 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: :)
Oct 14 21:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	o look, it lives!
Oct 14 21:44:21 <coingenuity>	heh
Oct 14 21:44:23 <coingenuity>	how goes it
Oct 14 21:44:38 <coingenuity>	go figure, i was distracted sending work emails :P
Oct 14 21:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	someone said the scammers managed a 51% attack so we were counting people
Oct 14 21:44:54 <coingenuity>	ah, lol
Oct 14 21:45:03 <noagendamarket>	using bitcoin is like wearing a miniskirt at 12am in a city...you might not get raped but it increases the odds
Oct 14 21:45:16 <coingenuity>	XD
Oct 14 21:45:59 <dub>	you might not ognna get raped
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Oct 14 21:46:31 <mircea_popescu>	one can't rape the willing.
Oct 14 21:46:51 <dub>	correct, and miniskirt == willing
Oct 14 21:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	no, miniskirt = able
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Oct 14 21:49:47 <novusordo>	well, unless she's wearing a locked chastity belt and left the key at home
Oct 14 21:50:13 <noagendamarket>	she still has a mouth
Oct 14 21:50:18 <noagendamarket>	:P
Oct 14 21:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43400 @ 0.00040857 = 17.7319 BTC [-]
Oct 14 21:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	few are that brave.
Oct 14 21:51:06 <noagendamarket>	probably dont want to go near anything with teeth though :P
Oct 14 21:51:40 <coingenuity>	man, i should buy some more cymbals
Oct 14 21:51:45 <dub>	confusious say: broken jaw bites no cock
Oct 14 21:51:48 <noagendamarket>	wtf
Oct 14 21:52:05 *	mircea_popescu reports dub to the sec
Oct 14 21:53:02 <BTC-Mining>	Alien says: I could bioengineer your human females with retractable teeth in the neither region so they can bit off rapists
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Oct 14 21:53:33 <dub>	they tried that in africa
Oct 14 21:53:49 <coingenuity>	whoa
Oct 14 21:53:50 <coingenuity>	wtf
Oct 14 21:53:53 <coingenuity>	meinl cymbals are cheap
Oct 14 21:54:01 *	coingenuity buys collection
Oct 14 21:54:14 <BTC-Mining>	Alien also says: I could even add an instinct to devour their partner for further nourishment of the offsprings
Oct 14 21:54:20 <dub>	spikey fleshlight thing that inserts in vagoo to 'discourage rape'
Oct 14 21:54:31 <dub>	in fact it 'guaranteed murder'
Oct 14 21:54:44 <coingenuity>	oh actually, not cheap at all
Oct 14 21:54:52 <coingenuity>	$610 for a ride cymbal
Oct 14 21:54:59 <BTC-Mining>	dub: oh, that...
Oct 14 21:55:01 <coingenuity>	*_x
Oct 14 21:55:03 <BTC-Mining>	yeah, seems nice
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Oct 14 21:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	dub i remember reading about that.
Oct 14 21:57:56 <BTC-Mining>	Gets the genitals entraped in a nice inward razorsharp teethed tunnel
Oct 14 21:58:25 <noagendamarket>	:O
Oct 14 21:58:46 <BTC-Mining>	Free permanent adornment when you pull out.
Oct 14 21:59:24 <BTC-Mining>	You might want to go to the hospital to get it removed, but it kind of shows everyone you forced yourself into a woman
Oct 14 22:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	in south africa that's actually a point of pride.
Oct 14 22:00:06 <mircea_popescu>	literally.
Oct 14 22:00:17 <noagendamarket>	its like wa\earing an earring ?
Oct 14 22:01:24 <BTC-Mining>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-rape_device#Rape-aXe
Oct 14 22:01:36 <BTC-Mining>	Read about it... seems nice
Oct 14 22:02:07 <mircea_popescu>	.g rape culture south africa
Oct 14 22:02:10 <markac>	mircea_popescu: http://takimag.com/article/south_africas_rape_culture_hannes_wessels/print
Oct 14 22:02:19 <dub>	mircea_popescu: what raping people?
Oct 14 22:02:29 <mircea_popescu>	not people. women.
Oct 14 22:02:48 <dub>	oh, theres also the whole 'rape cures aids' thing
Oct 14 22:02:56 <dub>	if you rape enough virgins your aids is cured
Oct 14 22:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	sounds legit.
Oct 14 22:03:28 <dub>	works really well now that o/~ everyone has aids o/~
Oct 14 22:04:04 <dub>	goddamnit
Oct 14 22:04:49 <dub>	mrs dub is on holiday in tropical location, keeps sending me pictures to enjoy while slaving at my desk
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Oct 14 22:05:54 <BTC-Mining>	[22:02] <dub> oh, theres also the whole 'rape cures aids' thing
Oct 14 22:06:50 <noagendamarket>	aids cures rape ...eventually
Oct 14 22:06:59 <BTC-Mining>	You are mistaken my little friend. The myth is that if you rape enough virgins while you got AIDS, you'll be like everyone once again. Except everyone now has AIDS.
Oct 14 22:07:37 <BTC-Mining>	Just returns you to being like the majority, really.
Oct 14 22:07:46 <dub>	pretty sure its not
Oct 14 22:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	.g rape cures aids
Oct 14 22:08:00 <markac>	mircea_popescu: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/babyrape.asp
Oct 14 22:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it has to be babies ?
Oct 14 22:08:47 <noagendamarket>	fucked up
Oct 14 22:08:50 <dub>	its been widely reported for years
Oct 14 22:09:01 <dub>	well decades
Oct 14 22:09:25 <dub>	of course not much of anything is reported in 'murrica
Oct 14 22:10:08 <thestringpuller>	that's really fucked up
Oct 14 22:10:53 <dub>	I think it was einstein that said 'what has africa ever given us, apart from aids'
Oct 14 22:11:06 <noagendamarket>	Obama ?
Oct 14 22:11:33 <noagendamarket>	kenya gave us Obama :P
Oct 14 22:11:52 <dub>	aint he one o dem musilins
Oct 14 22:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	also really fast runners
Oct 14 22:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	actually... this is now making sense. really fast runners...
Oct 14 22:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	people who can jump...
Oct 14 22:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	yah.
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Oct 14 22:13:05 <noagendamarket>	you would run too if people are trying to rape your baby
Oct 14 22:13:26 <BTC-Mining>	[22:10] <dub> I think it was einstein that said 'what has africa ever given us, apart from aids'
Oct 14 22:13:42 <dub>	thats just genetics, only the fast ones escape form slavers/police
Oct 14 22:13:47 <BTC-Mining>	Slaves. Once upon a time in some very cheerful bedtime stories, European cultures thought Africans were free-to-take laborers just idling there doing nothing waiting for masters.
Oct 14 22:14:00 <BTC-Mining>	Seems like it was the most stupid idea ever.
Oct 14 22:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining actually, it was locals selling them mostly.
Oct 14 22:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	the dutch just landed the ships and the local chieftains sprung up the goods.
Oct 14 22:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	much alike how things go today, actually, you'll be accosted by men with offers of fresh cunt multiple times a week.
Oct 14 22:15:21 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, true, they were kidnapping each others tribes too.
Oct 14 22:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00041189 = 6.7962 BTC [+]
Oct 14 22:16:08 <BTC-Mining>	But were the slaves' children considered slaves too?
Oct 14 22:16:13 <dub>	yes
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Oct 14 22:16:28 <dub>	well usually
Oct 14 22:16:45 <BTC-Mining>	eh, well some still just went on expedition to take them.
Oct 14 22:16:52 <dub>	they are sometimes all that is left after you eat the adults
Oct 14 22:17:03 <dub>	oh wait, we're still talkign about africa
Oct 14 22:17:07 <BTC-Mining>	There's still tons of negative repercussions till this day.
Oct 14 22:17:12 <smickles>	lol, "bacon wrapped shit"
Oct 14 22:17:13 <BTC-Mining>	dub: -.-
Oct 14 22:17:26 <BTC-Mining>	smickles: -.-
Oct 14 22:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno how slaves in africa could have had children
Oct 14 22:17:45 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115441.msg1254742#msg1254742
Oct 14 22:17:45 *	dub decends from tribe who owned (and ate) slaves
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Oct 14 22:19:07 <noagendamarket>	some of the convicts sent to Australia descended into cannibalism a few times
Oct 14 22:19:22 <copumpkin>	descended?
Oct 14 22:19:24 <copumpkin>	ascended more like
Oct 14 22:19:30 <copumpkin>	human is delicious
Oct 14 22:20:04 *	dub suspected copumpkin was a reptilian
Oct 14 22:20:15 <noagendamarket>	ewww bacon wrapped shit
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Oct 14 22:20:32 <Azelphur>	I always thought he was a cooperative pumpkin
Oct 14 22:20:35 <novusordo>	pumpkin is also delicious
Oct 14 22:20:46 *	novusordo eyes copumpkin
Oct 14 22:21:02 <noagendamarket>	*would be funny if copumpkin was a cop the whole time
Oct 14 22:21:05 <BTC-Mining>	smickles, I meant, your statement was very badly placed out of context
Oct 14 22:21:08 <smickles>	keep your eyes off my gourd
Oct 14 22:21:27 <Azelphur>	fedpumpkin
Oct 14 22:21:44 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: oh, i see it now
Oct 14 22:21:56 <noagendamarket>	you cant say he didnt tell you = entrapment cos it was in his name the whole time
Oct 14 22:22:04 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 14 22:22:08 <copumpkin>	noagendamarket: that's also bullshit :)
Oct 14 22:22:17 <noagendamarket>	jj
Oct 14 22:22:23 <copumpkin>	http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/19810672629/12-i-was-entrapped :)
Oct 14 22:23:17 <BTC-Mining>	smickles: indeed
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Oct 14 22:35:17 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin funded spaceship
Oct 14 22:35:19 <thestringpuller>	yeaaa
Oct 14 22:35:22 <thestringpuller>	that would rule
Oct 14 22:36:08 <dub>	spacebits
Oct 14 22:36:52 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 14 22:36:52 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.552, Best ask: 11.65, Bid-ask spread: 0.09800, Last trade: 11.65091, 24 hour volume: 23792, 24 hour low: 11.496, 24 hour high: 12.03
Oct 14 22:36:57 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 14 22:36:58 <gribble>	11.81
Oct 14 22:38:49 <smickles>	wait
Oct 14 22:38:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 14 22:38:54 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.55001, Best ask: 11.6499, Bid-ask spread: 0.09989, Last trade: 11.55001, 24 hour volume: 23794, 24 hour low: 11.496, 24 hour high: 12.03
Oct 14 22:38:59 <smickles>	japan is /+/ 9 hours from utc
Oct 14 22:39:00 <smickles>	!!
Oct 14 22:39:08 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 14 22:39:09 <thestringpuller>	ot
Oct 14 22:39:11 <smickles>	it's been tomorrow for like 11.5 hour!
Oct 14 22:39:14 <thestringpuller>	international dateline
Oct 14 22:39:20 <thestringpuller>	it's monday there
Oct 14 22:39:25 <thestringpuller>	well almost tuesday...
Oct 14 22:39:27 <dub>	timezones, how do they work
Oct 14 22:39:35 <smickles>	usagi has totally defaulted
Oct 14 22:39:41 <thestringpuller>	poor usagi
Oct 14 22:39:44 <smickles>	"totally"
Oct 14 22:39:48 <thestringpuller>	I had faith in his companies
Oct 14 22:39:54 <thestringpuller>	guess he's gone the way of the scammers
Oct 14 22:39:59 <dub>	I had faith in it scamming
Oct 14 22:40:01 <thestringpuller>	either that or he's broke...
Oct 14 22:40:17 <smickles>	;;rate usagi -3 defaulted on this: http://bitbin.it/nPDQRLME
Oct 14 22:40:19 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user usagi has changed from -1 to -3.
Oct 14 22:40:31 <thestringpuller>	oh man :(
Oct 14 22:40:38 <thestringpuller>	sorry you got jipped smickles
Oct 14 22:41:05 <dub>	smickles got GIPPT
Oct 14 22:41:07 <smickles>	thestringpuller: thanks for the sympathy
Oct 14 22:41:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00041354 = 9.0565 BTC [+]
Oct 14 22:41:44 <noagendamarket>	smickles are you going to make a forum post about it ?
Oct 14 22:41:56 <smickles>	noagendamarket: i'm about to
Oct 14 22:42:00 <noagendamarket>	good
Oct 14 22:42:39 <noagendamarket>	I expect there will be a few tags coming soon :(
Oct 14 22:42:48 *	thestringpuller gets some popcorn
Oct 14 22:42:53 <thestringpuller>	this will be good
Oct 14 22:43:00 <thestringpuller>	better than reality tv
Oct 14 22:43:03 <thestringpuller>	it's reality
Oct 14 22:43:08 <BTC-Mining>	Guess I might end up paying Usagi's debt
Oct 14 22:46:18 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118507.0 there it is
Oct 14 22:47:56 <dub>	I should start a scam calling service
Oct 14 22:48:05 <dub>	I'm at 100% accuracy
Oct 14 22:48:49 <thestringpuller>	Do scams have to be malcious in intent (take the money and run) or can it just be inept business practices?
Oct 14 22:48:51 <BTC-Mining>	Good for you
Oct 14 22:49:14 <thestringpuller>	like for instance someone having all their money under a mattress and the house burns down...
Oct 14 22:49:27 <BTC-Mining>	I would say they would have to be malicious intent. Otherwise we'd call that mismanagement/ineptitude.
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Oct 14 22:49:54 <BTC-Mining>	Like for murder, it has to be a malicious intent. If it's accidental and you're at fault, it's not murder but manslaughter
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Oct 14 22:50:07 <thestringpuller>	BTC-Mining: why are you going to assume Usagi's debt?
Oct 14 22:50:23 <BTC-Mining>	Only if he doesn't claim his BTC-Mining shares
Oct 14 22:50:37 <BTC-Mining>	I would pay interest to smickles instead
Oct 14 22:50:47 <BTC-Mining>	Until this debt is paid off
Oct 14 22:51:18 <thestringpuller>	I see cause you'll retain those outstanding shares of Usagi?
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Oct 14 22:51:25 <BTC-Mining>	Indeed
Oct 14 22:51:29 <noagendamarket>	yep
Oct 14 22:51:43 <thestringpuller>	Are scammer tags reversable? or is it pretty much a done deal?
Oct 14 22:51:43 <BTC-Mining>	If he claims them at a later date, he'd have no more debt but less dividends owed.
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Oct 14 22:51:50 <BTC-Mining>	Reversable.
Oct 14 22:51:50 <noagendamarket>	thats if nefario ecver gets his ass into gear lol
Oct 14 22:51:51 <smickles>	thestringpuller: reversable
Oct 14 22:51:56 <BTC-Mining>	Just like negative ratings here
Oct 14 22:52:12 <BTC-Mining>	You should not be afraid to put them up temporarily until matter are resolved.
Oct 14 22:52:32 <BTC-Mining>	Sets red flags for others to see until matters are resolved
Oct 14 22:52:48 <thestringpuller>	Good way to keep newbies from walking into traps...
Oct 14 22:52:59 <thestringpuller>	Usagi is going to have a field day
Oct 14 22:53:26 <smickles>	< BTC-Mining> I would pay interest to smickles instead << that's honorable, thank you for even considering it :)
Oct 14 22:53:37 <thestringpuller>	this all started cause he had too much exposure to priate
Oct 14 22:53:39 <thestringpuller>	pirate*
Oct 14 22:54:32 <noagendamarket>	so did a lot of people :(
Oct 14 22:54:45 <thestringpuller>	well if your an insurance company you need to mitigate your risks appropriately
Oct 14 22:54:56 <thestringpuller>	otherwise if shit hits the fan the only thing you can do is merge with another insurance company
Oct 14 22:55:39 <thestringpuller>	his policy reserves were depleted during the default and never recovered
Oct 14 22:55:44 <noagendamarket>	the idea of a btc insurance company at this stage is retarded
Oct 14 22:55:47 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i think it was glbse going down that did 'em in
Oct 14 22:55:56 <thestringpuller>	that's what really did him in
Oct 14 22:56:08 <thestringpuller>	a btc insurance company is brilliant imho
Oct 14 22:56:08 <noagendamarket>	glbse was the final straw
Oct 14 22:56:15 <thestringpuller>	if it's run correctly
Oct 14 22:56:20 <BTC-Mining>	I was completly spared from piratey troubles for avoiding pirate altogether
Oct 14 22:56:20 <noagendamarket>	not with all the scammers it isnt
Oct 14 22:56:32 <BTC-Mining>	Except a bit of margin trading on the various bonds
Oct 14 22:56:33 <thestringpuller>	that's what underwriting is for
Oct 14 22:56:39 <BTC-Mining>	I like flipping things
Oct 14 22:56:51 <thestringpuller>	noagendamarket: if you have good underwriting you limit your exposure to scams
Oct 14 22:58:00 <thestringpuller>	also unlicensed insurance is kind of a big no no
Oct 14 22:58:39 <noagendamarket>	nothing in btc land is insurable imho
Oct 14 22:59:21 <thestringpuller>	noagendamarket: that's because there is no stable investments to put your policy surplus into to make a decent ROI
Oct 14 22:59:28 <thestringpuller>	everyone defaults left and right
Oct 14 22:59:33 <noagendamarket>	yah
Oct 14 23:00:07 <thestringpuller>	the only option i would see is liquidating the surplus and putting it into global markets
Oct 14 23:00:10 <noagendamarket>	the thing that killed glbse was pirate too :P
Oct 14 23:00:57 <thestringpuller>	The way I see CPA is that they were exposed to pirate, and they invested in pirate pt
Oct 14 23:01:24 <thestringpuller>	so when he defaulted, he had to pay out pirate policies, and he lost money on the investments
Oct 14 23:01:37 <thestringpuller>	so when pirate defaulted*
Oct 14 23:02:02 <thestringpuller>	maybe I'm oversimplifying...=\
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Oct 14 23:06:36 <noagendamarket>	na that sounds right
Oct 14 23:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35267 @ 0.00041354 = 14.5843 BTC [+]
Oct 14 23:07:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00041636 = 3.8721 BTC [+]
Oct 14 23:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8421 @ 0.00042 = 3.5368 BTC [+]
Oct 14 23:07:40 <noagendamarket>	scammers and the lack of non defaulting assets really kills the idea
Oct 14 23:07:56 <thestringpuller>	Patrick Harnett seems to never default...
Oct 14 23:08:04 <noagendamarket>	lool
Oct 14 23:08:18 <thestringpuller>	or maybe I just don't know him well enough
Oct 14 23:10:30 <qwebirc556225>	what's the reason behind recent fall in price
Oct 14 23:10:36 <qwebirc556225>	if there is any
Oct 14 23:10:36 <qwebirc556225>	?
Oct 14 23:11:02 <noagendamarket>	bitcoin sucks
Oct 14 23:11:06 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 14 23:11:24 <smickles>	qwebirc556225: it's the weekend dip
Oct 14 23:11:36 <noagendamarket>	run away as fast as possible in the other direction
Oct 14 23:11:51 <smickles>	that's microcash, right?
Oct 14 23:12:02 <noagendamarket>	ppcoin :P
Oct 14 23:12:04 <dub>	solidcash niccuh
Oct 14 23:12:07 <smickles>	oh right
Oct 14 23:12:12 <Ukto>	nah, all the govt employees incharge of buying up btc etc are off work for the weekend :P
Oct 14 23:12:14 <noagendamarket>	ppcoin = microcash 2
Oct 14 23:12:27 <BTC-Mining>	qwebirc556225: it's not really a big fall... pretty minor
Oct 14 23:12:32 <dub>	my peepeecoins are growing!
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Oct 14 23:12:44 <noagendamarket>	Ukto the cia doesnt work on te weekend ?
Oct 14 23:12:46 <BTC-Mining>	If you'd look at price history, you can see it varies a lot even over the last month
Oct 14 23:12:53 <Ukto>	noagendamarket: :P
Oct 14 23:13:02 <BTC-Mining>	It's not like traditional currency pairs like USD/EURO
Oct 14 23:13:31 <Ukto>	alot has happened over the last month :/
Oct 14 23:13:32 <BTC-Mining>	Price moves a lot on small transactions simply by low liquitity volumes.
Oct 14 23:13:35 <Ukto>	half~millions
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Oct 14 23:13:59 <thestringpuller>	september it went up to almost 13
Oct 14 23:14:06 <thestringpuller>	October has been a rough month so far
Oct 14 23:14:31 <Ukto>	as we get closer to halftime, it should go up more
Oct 14 23:14:38 <thestringpuller>	in theory it should
Oct 14 23:15:04 <thestringpuller>	but from what I recall in order for miners who have paid for equipment, they only need 4USD/BTC to cover electricity costs and remain profitable
Oct 14 23:15:50 <dub>	um, no
Oct 14 23:16:09 <dub>	for GPUs its quite a lot higher with avg power price
Oct 14 23:16:52 <dub>	FPGA will be lower than that
Oct 14 23:17:02 <qwebirc556225>	thx
Oct 14 23:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining how;d you end up paying usagi debt ?
Oct 14 23:17:36 <thestringpuller>	I'm assuming full FPGA setup
Oct 14 23:18:13 <dub>	what are you assuming power price to be?
Oct 14 23:18:31 <BTC-Mining>	arf, I'd pay dividends owed to him to smickles instead
Oct 14 23:18:38 <Ukto>	Over 9000!
Oct 14 23:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	qwebirc556225 we rarely know the reasons.
Oct 14 23:19:08 *	Ukto sighs and wonders why ppl just wont take him seriously anymore. :P
Oct 14 23:21:03 <thestringpuller>	dub: 0.10 USD/kwhr
Oct 14 23:21:25 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you never explained who "the girl" is
Oct 14 23:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	my pr for the forum
Oct 14 23:22:39 <thestringpuller>	ah your marketing peeps
Oct 14 23:22:48 <thestringpuller>	i see (said the blind man)
Oct 14 23:22:55 <dub>	thestringpuller: so assuming 10mh/w its break even is under a dollar
Oct 14 23:23:10 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 14 23:23:17 <dub>	10mh/w is a vaniall lx150
Oct 14 23:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	what diff are you counting on ?
Oct 14 23:23:42 <dub>	vanilla too, I think they commonly run at +25%
Oct 14 23:23:58 <dub>	mircea_popescu: current
Oct 14 23:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Oct 14 23:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	i have bets for > 300 th.
Oct 14 23:24:55 <thestringpuller>	terahashes (shudder)
Oct 14 23:25:25 <dub>	id say we'll be well over 3000th in a year
Oct 14 23:25:33 <dub>	if asic lands
Oct 14 23:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Oct 14 23:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	so at 300th, taking that number out of an arsehat, $4 becomes $40
Oct 14 23:28:00 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 14 23:28:30 <thestringpuller>	Is it still illegal to live in antarctica?
Oct 14 23:28:40 <noagendamarket>	yes
Oct 14 23:29:00 <noagendamarket>	antarctica is a protected wildlife zone :P
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Oct 14 23:33:18 <thestringpuller>	noagendamarket: I see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System
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Oct 14 23:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9489 @ 0.00041666 = 3.9537 BTC [-]
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Oct 14 23:35:54 <smickles>	well, usagi has contacted me now
Oct 14 23:36:04 <thestringpuller>	what's the news smickles
Oct 14 23:36:16 <smickles>	it wants an alternative payment plan
Oct 14 23:36:47 <noagendamarket>	tentacle porn ?
Oct 14 23:37:04 <smickles>	noagendamarket: nope, netorare
Oct 14 23:37:29 <thestringpuller>	lol "it"
Oct 14 23:37:36 <thestringpuller>	genderless person
Oct 14 23:37:40 <thestringpuller>	androgynous*
Oct 14 23:37:55 <dub>	i'd like to go to antarctica at some stage
Oct 14 23:38:12 <noagendamarket>	bahaha
Oct 14 23:38:29 <dub>	my biddy has been there
Oct 14 23:38:33 <dub>	buddy*
Oct 14 23:39:05 <thestringpuller>	I wanted to incorporate a btc business in antarctica
Oct 14 23:39:12 <thestringpuller>	then if they wanted to put me in jail they'd have to find me
Oct 14 23:39:27 <thestringpuller>	I don't think the feds like the cold
Oct 14 23:39:47 <dub>	its quite cold there atm
Oct 14 23:40:19 <dub>	ozone hole sucking space in
Oct 14 23:40:55 <thestringpuller>	it's kinda sad the ozone depletion...
Oct 14 23:41:13 <dub>	its repairing itself apparently
Oct 14 23:41:49 <noagendamarket>	yeah they banned a lot of the chemicals that were causing it
Oct 14 23:42:07 <dub>	CFCs, I miss em
Oct 14 23:43:05 <dub>	no more styrofoam burger boxes
Oct 14 23:43:20 <thestringpuller>	I kinda think the glbse shutdown was a good thing...
Oct 14 23:43:27 <thestringpuller>	it's gonna weed out some of the bad stock
Oct 14 23:43:40 <smickles>	that's why those burger boxes went away?
Oct 14 23:43:45 <noagendamarket>	it will just lead to decentralized scamming
Oct 14 23:43:52 <noagendamarket>	smickles yes
Oct 14 23:44:18 <thestringpuller>	noagendamarket: why is everything a scam?
Oct 14 23:44:38 <thestringpuller>	i feel that the people on silk road are more trustworthy than most btc users
Oct 14 23:44:43 <noagendamarket>	because there is no way to enforce property rights
Oct 14 23:45:04 <thestringpuller>	the be like the mafia? if people don't pay break their knees?
Oct 14 23:45:08 <thestringpuller>	then*
Oct 14 23:45:25 <thestringpuller>	the mafia seems to get their loans back in full
Oct 14 23:45:31 <noagendamarket>	if you cant get justice using the legal system thats the alternative
Oct 14 23:45:42 <thestringpuller>	then beat people up
Oct 14 23:45:49 <thestringpuller>	"make them pay" *wink wink*
Oct 14 23:46:09 <smickles>	everything is a scam because none of the big thefts and scams have had any significant consequences yet
Oct 14 23:46:26 <smickles>	so more scammers come
Oct 14 23:46:29 <noagendamarket>	kinda hard when they live on the other side of the world
Oct 14 23:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller actually the mafia collecting records are worse than the govt's.
Oct 14 23:47:12 <noagendamarket>	unless your cousin is a mexican hitman near texas ;P
Oct 14 23:47:30 <smickles>	fucking texans
Oct 14 23:47:46 <noagendamarket>	mybitcoin was a canadian scam LOL
Oct 14 23:48:19 <smickles>	seriously, the should just secede already
Oct 14 23:48:28 <smickles>	*they
Oct 14 23:48:53 <noagendamarket>	scammers will destroy btc before the government gets a chance too
Oct 14 23:49:02 <thestringpuller>	I guess you have to be a skeptical consumer
Oct 14 23:49:17 <thestringpuller>	btc has made me a lot better with my money in general
Oct 14 23:49:22 <noagendamarket>	its why they send criminals into protest groups
Oct 14 23:49:53 <thestringpuller>	as long as SR exists btc will always have a place on the internet
Oct 14 23:49:58 <noagendamarket>	they wont arrest pirate they will; hire him LOL
Oct 14 23:50:18 <thestringpuller>	pirate is going to jail
Oct 14 23:50:31 <noagendamarket>	not likely :P
Oct 14 23:50:42 <thestringpuller>	remember the guy who made the liberty dollars?
Oct 14 23:50:59 <noagendamarket>	he didnt run a giant ponzi
Oct 14 23:51:07 <thestringpuller>	bad example
Oct 14 23:51:11 <thestringpuller>	remember charles ponzi?
Oct 14 23:51:26 <noagendamarket>	no Im not that old lol
Oct 14 23:52:06 <thestringpuller>	i think this could all be solved with a BTC repo service
Oct 14 23:52:29 <dub>	people just need to be more enterprising
Oct 14 23:52:49 <thestringpuller>	I like the post from the guy who made coinpal
Oct 14 23:52:52 <dub>	its retardedly cheap to have physical harm befall people in most places
Oct 14 23:53:14 <thestringpuller>	dub: so a bitcoin mafia?
Oct 14 23:53:33 <dub>	thats stupid
Oct 14 23:54:06 <noagendamarket>	african mercenaries ftw
Oct 14 23:54:10 <thestringpuller>	XD
Oct 14 23:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of bitcoin, government et all : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/bribes-in-bitcoins/
Oct 14 23:54:28 <dub>	SFW? :)
Oct 14 23:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Oct 14 23:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	a rare treat that, too.
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Oct 14 23:55:05 <noagendamarket>	an assassination market would be nice
Oct 14 23:55:23 <noagendamarket>	wheer you can bet when pirate will get his legs broken
Oct 14 23:55:52 <noagendamarket>	theres no incentive currently :P
Oct 14 23:56:16 <smickles>	jeez, no one like my texas joke?
Oct 14 23:56:48 *	dub not american
Oct 14 23:57:37 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: "And yes, I’m saving some Bitcoins in a special wallet precisely to pay for the amusement of fucking interns in the oval office. The cigars are on the house." that made me laugh
Oct 14 23:57:45 <thestringpuller>	Can I join that party when it happens?
Oct 14 23:57:50 <mircea_popescu>	sure. save some bitcoins.
Oct 14 23:58:03 <smickles>	yeah, but really, you are :P 'merica rulz the world,, didn't you know the sec regulates securities worldwide
Oct 14 23:58:06 <smickles>	?
Oct 14 23:58:07 <thestringpuller>	I have a 25 btc casascius coin so I can redeem it
Oct 14 23:58:21 <thestringpuller>	when the time comes
Oct 14 23:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Oct 14 23:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	better buy some viagra then, who knows how many interns 25btc buys
Oct 14 23:58:58 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 14 23:59:22 <noagendamarket>	lol. Imagine if you had liquid viagra and dumped it in the water supply
Oct 14 23:59:31 <thestringpuller>	it'll be like a post apocalyptic world without the nuclear holocaust
Oct 14 23:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	instasenegal ?
Oct 14 23:59:50 <noagendamarket>	good times
Oct 14 23:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00041741 = 11.0196 BTC [+]
Oct 15 00:00:10 <thestringpuller>	mpex is blowin up
Oct 15 00:00:26 <thestringpuller>	I wonder how coinbr.com will do
Oct 15 00:00:35 <thestringpuller>	now that glbse is gone
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Oct 15 00:00:47 <dub>	wat is coinbr again?
Oct 15 00:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	jurovs mpex broker neh ?
Oct 15 00:01:14 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 15 00:01:27 <thestringpuller>	the 30 btc fee for mpex makes it a lot like NYSE
Oct 15 00:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	should be doing some decent biz i imagine
Oct 15 00:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller that's the plan
Oct 15 00:01:40 <thestringpuller>	so mpex is a good place for brokerage
Oct 15 00:01:48 <thestringpuller>	which is good I think
Oct 15 00:01:59 <mircea_popescu>	so do i.
Oct 15 00:02:07 <thestringpuller>	i hated that glbse had sporradic trades from newbies
Oct 15 00:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	i hated that glbse was mostly a vehicle for pushing toxic assets to the naive.
Oct 15 00:02:51 <thestringpuller>	HAHAH yea
Oct 15 00:02:56 <thestringpuller>	I made jokes about that
Oct 15 00:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	way to cut the branch you're sitting on
Oct 15 00:03:01 <thestringpuller>	with my dad
Oct 15 00:03:17 <thestringpuller>	PPT "bonds" were just bad debt
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Oct 15 00:03:38 <thestringpuller>	if there was a way to "collect" like in the physical world it wouldn't have been as bad
Oct 15 00:03:51 <thestringpuller>	there is a market for trading bad debt
Oct 15 00:03:55 <thestringpuller>	but if you can't collect on it...
Oct 15 00:04:07 <dub>	you can..
Oct 15 00:04:29 <thestringpuller>	through BTC QE?
Oct 15 00:04:31 <thestringpuller>	:)
Oct 15 00:04:50 <thestringpuller>	wait for the BTC fed to buy up the bad debt?
Oct 15 00:07:11 <noagendamarket>	they probably wont do anything about scamming till a politician gets ripped off lol
Oct 15 00:08:36 <smickles>	man, i should've found a way to scam the funds form my mortgage into btc back in 2008
Oct 15 00:09:12 <dub>	if you want to conspiracy theorize it might be thier plan to let btc scam itself out of existence
Oct 15 00:10:29 <smickles>	timetravel
Oct 15 00:10:38 <smickles>	now that is waht bitcoin is for
Oct 15 00:10:55 <thestringpuller>	actually
Oct 15 00:11:17 <thestringpuller>	that's kinda brilliant
Oct 15 00:11:27 <thestringpuller>	dub: let the community destroy itself
Oct 15 00:11:38 <thestringpuller>	:(
Oct 15 00:11:52 <thestringpuller>	Didn't a US senator give the DEA a bunch of money to shutdown Silk Road
Oct 15 00:11:59 <thestringpuller>	and they still haven't?
Oct 15 00:12:21 <dub>	pretty sweet honeypot
Oct 15 00:12:36 <smickles>	how much money does it take to get to the center of an onion?
Oct 15 00:12:48 <thestringpuller>	berry punny
Oct 15 00:12:50 <smickles>	dub: they did change their .onion address
Oct 15 00:13:11 <dub>	USG has a long history of letting crime continue in their interests
Oct 15 00:13:30 <smickles>	and the drug trad is in the gov't interest
Oct 15 00:13:38 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 15 00:13:39 <thestringpuller>	i love it
Oct 15 00:13:51 <thestringpuller>	smickles: did you really like my idea?
Oct 15 00:14:01 <dub>	there was an infographic floating around the other day, I think I pasted here
Oct 15 00:14:35 <smickles>	thestringpuller: the one you emaild to me? or this destructo community provacatauro
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Oct 15 00:14:47 <dub>	showing drug addiction rates over time (static) vs. War on Drugs spend (zomg)
Oct 15 00:15:00 <thestringpuller>	the i emailed you / we drunk talked about one night
Oct 15 00:15:27 <smickles>	thestringpuller: Yeah, i think that is a good idea if you can keep expenses low enough to attact business
Oct 15 00:16:02 <thestringpuller>	I think I can if I do it for businesses
Oct 15 00:16:19 <smickles>	btc -> cash in pocket in about one biz day w/o needing a bank account, i think it'll work
Oct 15 00:16:48 <thestringpuller>	that is if the check is as liquid as a moneygram/moneyorder
Oct 15 00:17:03 <smickles>	should be, it's certified
Oct 15 00:17:16 <thestringpuller>	i'm just worried about the shipping
Oct 15 00:17:25 <smickles>	most banks will let you cash that free of charge
Oct 15 00:17:36 <smickles>	although, now, i think they take a fingerprint to do it
Oct 15 00:17:41 <thestringpuller>	most do
Oct 15 00:17:45 <thestringpuller>	the fingerprint
Oct 15 00:17:47 <thestringpuller>	that is
Oct 15 00:19:19 <midnightmagic>	a..  fingerprint to cash a cheque?!
Oct 15 00:19:25 <thestringpuller>	sometimes
Oct 15 00:19:56 <midnightmagic>	that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. For a cashier's/certified cheque?!
Oct 15 00:20:51 <thestringpuller>	When you cash it lol
Oct 15 00:20:57 <thestringpuller>	My old bank did that
Oct 15 00:21:01 <thestringpuller>	took a thumb print
Oct 15 00:21:13 <thestringpuller>	and makes you put your fingerprint on the back of the check
Oct 15 00:25:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00041755 = 5.1776 BTC [+]
Oct 15 00:25:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00041666 = 8.1249 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 00:31:12 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: I think Im glad I didnt hire you in the end
Oct 15 00:31:21 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: you'd be trying to scammer thread me because glbse stole dmc's money :<
Oct 15 00:31:51 <noagendamarket>	there wasnt much left of dmc for glbse to take aft5er youy finished with it :P
Oct 15 00:32:08 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: usagi told me that he had the btc AFTER glbse went down
Oct 15 00:32:42 <smickles>	and then didn't contact me when he clearly knew he was going to default
Oct 15 00:32:46 <smickles>	for a full week
Oct 15 00:33:01 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: heh whadda fag =/
Oct 15 00:33:17 <Diablo-D3>	noagendamarket: no, what was left of dmc was what glbse didnt already steal
Oct 15 00:34:34 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: i would assume you would not do something like that. A little communication goes a long way
Oct 15 00:35:01 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, I'd at least warn you ahead of time that dmc suddenly became non-existant
Oct 15 00:36:05 <smickles>	you know, s2cm is actually still operating :/
Oct 15 00:37:02 <thestringpuller>	Can I invest in s2cm?
Oct 15 00:37:05 <thestringpuller>	if it's still operating
Oct 15 00:37:34 <smickles>	thestringpuller: heh, we're still operating, but we're going to dissolve when we get the shareholder info from glbse
Oct 15 00:37:52 <smickles>	part of our operation is collecting from usagi
Oct 15 00:40:04 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i bet there are people who have trustable claim to shares of s2cm who would sell them to you
Oct 15 00:40:14 <smickles>	Azelphur: ^
Oct 15 00:40:19 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Oct 15 00:40:36 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: so basically the entire bitstreet is closing up
Oct 15 00:40:43 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 15 00:41:08 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: well, i dunno, we're disolving s2cm, but i'm launching an accounting company
Oct 15 00:41:10 <Azelphur>	I can sell ss shares, depending on what your offering
Oct 15 00:41:13 <thestringpuller>	Everyone is closing their doors cause no one trusts anyone
Oct 15 00:41:38 <thestringpuller>	I can offer Jazz music, the original american export.
Oct 15 00:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	dub the way i see it, the scams are actually a passive benefit
Oct 15 00:41:47 <Azelphur>	sorry that's not dubstep
Oct 15 00:41:48 <Azelphur>	:P
Oct 15 00:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	all the people who aren't scamming are gaining +rep with every scam.
Oct 15 00:42:07 <thestringpuller>	huh?
Oct 15 00:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	may seem expensive, but a great way to build a community FOR REAL.
Oct 15 00:42:16 <thestringpuller>	oh
Oct 15 00:42:18 <thestringpuller>	I see
Oct 15 00:42:19 <Azelphur>	lol
Oct 15 00:42:26 <thestringpuller>	I'm a little high not gonna lie
Oct 15 00:42:32 <Azelphur>	smickles: did you see the email that went out today btw
Oct 15 00:42:38 <Azelphur>	from glbse
Oct 15 00:42:57 <smickles>	Azelphur: the one where it said, you should've received you btc?
Oct 15 00:43:04 <Azelphur>	yep
Oct 15 00:43:07 <smickles>	yeah, s2cm didn't get one satoshi
Oct 15 00:43:07 <Azelphur>	Your GLBSE account has been processed for bitcoin. The next step will be to send you information about your assets, and to provide this information to issuers (if you agreed) allowing you to continue your relationship with your issuers.
Oct 15 00:43:19 <Azelphur>	:(
Oct 15 00:43:30 <smickles>	and we're owed over 200, iirc
Oct 15 00:43:37 <Azelphur>	satoshis?
Oct 15 00:43:41 <smickles>	yup
Oct 15 00:43:45 <Azelphur>	oh nose :(
Oct 15 00:43:50 <Azelphur>	that would be such a travesty to loose xD
Oct 15 00:43:50 <smickles>	indeed
Oct 15 00:43:57 <smickles>	it's a massive blow
Oct 15 00:44:04 <Azelphur>	the economy will never recover
Oct 15 00:44:09 <Azelphur>	we might as well pack up and go home now
Oct 15 00:44:10 <Azelphur>	xD
Oct 15 00:44:11 <smickles>	lol
Oct 15 00:44:20 <smickles>	but we're too big to fail
Oct 15 00:44:23 <thestringpuller>	XD
Oct 15 00:44:25 <smickles>	so it's ok
Oct 15 00:44:25 <Azelphur>	lol
Oct 15 00:44:29 <thestringpuller>	bail outs all around
Oct 15 00:44:40 <Azelphur>	I got my 10.1 btc out of glbse
Oct 15 00:44:50 <Azelphur>	now I'm waiting on clipse, bs&t and glbse (assets)
Oct 15 00:44:53 <thestringpuller>	i put 20 btc's into nyan.a
Oct 15 00:45:01 <thestringpuller>	I had .6 btc liquid in glbse
Oct 15 00:45:02 <Azelphur>	my bitcoin life is sad atm :(
Oct 15 00:45:12 <Azelphur>	money trapped in investments: ~1700 btc
Oct 15 00:45:15 <Azelphur>	money in wallet: 22.43
Oct 15 00:45:16 <Azelphur>	:<
Oct 15 00:45:25 <smickles>	ouch
Oct 15 00:45:29 <Azelphur>	indeed
Oct 15 00:45:43 <Azelphur>	spread your money out, surely it can't all go wrong at the same time!
Oct 15 00:45:45 <Azelphur>	#flawedlogic
Oct 15 00:45:50 <dub>	heh
Oct 15 00:45:55 <dub>	whats teh latest on clipse
Oct 15 00:46:09 <dub>	still 'end of october'?
Oct 15 00:46:09 <Azelphur>	dub: seems like he's en route for a scammer tag
Oct 15 00:46:17 <Azelphur>	dub: wasn't that end of september
Oct 15 00:46:38 <Azelphur>	he said end of september, then he said 12th oct, and now he signed in but hasn't updated anyone
Oct 15 00:46:43 <dub>	I've seen no comms lately, I though he said end october then brought it forward
Oct 15 00:46:57 <smickles>	Azelphur: go play some FTL, it'll help :)
Oct 15 00:47:09 <Azelphur>	oh nope, you are right, it is end of october
Oct 15 00:47:20 <thestringpuller>	smickles: what were the outstanding shares for september? (looking at S^2 fin reports)
Oct 15 00:47:38 <Azelphur>	although he says that in order to pay out in october he needs people to mine, and his pool has been down for nearly 24h now
Oct 15 00:47:53 <Azelphur>	smickles: haha :p
Oct 15 00:47:54 <dub>	well, SA is a REALLY cheap place to have someone whacked ;)
Oct 15 00:48:05 <Azelphur>	dub: tempting ;)
Oct 15 00:48:10 <dub>	like can of coke cheap
Oct 15 00:48:22 <Azelphur>	I know people who live in SA too
Oct 15 00:48:28 <Azelphur>	but nah
Oct 15 00:48:28 <smickles>	thestringpuller: all issued shares were outstanding, and the number should be in the notes of the report
Oct 15 00:48:34 <dub>	I know a contract killer in SA :)
Oct 15 00:48:38 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 15 00:48:44 <Azelphur>	sometimes I think it'd be cool if you could hire someone to steal a scammers car and sell it in order to pay back people who had been scammed, or something
Oct 15 00:48:46 <Azelphur>	that would be cool
Oct 15 00:48:55 <noagendamarket>	thatd be awesome
Oct 15 00:49:05 <Azelphur>	in my dreams sort of cool, not in reality
Oct 15 00:49:08 <Azelphur>	xD
Oct 15 00:49:11 <thestringpuller>	smickles: thanks
Oct 15 00:49:42 <noagendamarket>	pirate would need a lot of fucking cars :D
Oct 15 00:50:04 <Azelphur>	dub: it's really bad because in his thread early on he specifically says he don't invest in BS&T which is why I left so much in there, as another investment
Oct 15 00:50:09 <dub>	with pirate I'd steal his cimputers :)
Oct 15 00:50:12 <Azelphur>	and now he blames BS&T for not being able to pay people back
Oct 15 00:50:19 <Azelphur>	:@
Oct 15 00:50:25 <dub>	in fact I can't believe someone hasnt
Oct 15 00:50:32 <Azelphur>	haha
Oct 15 00:50:36 <noagendamarket>	thats grounds for an insta scammer tag
Oct 15 00:50:48 <Azelphur>	noagendamarket: that's what I said in the scammer thread.
Oct 15 00:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.000419 = 6.2431 BTC [+]
Oct 15 00:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00042 = 6.594 BTC [+]
Oct 15 00:51:06 <thestringpuller>	Azelphur: what is your asking price for 1 share of S^2?
Oct 15 00:51:09 <noagendamarket>	its no different to hashking or nckrazze
Oct 15 00:51:45 <Azelphur>	"No I dont put the mining funds directly in BTCST" ... and now "aside from the fact BTCST should have paid out by now"
Oct 15 00:51:45 <Azelphur>	xD
Oct 15 00:52:05 <Azelphur>	thestringpuller: they did that 1/100 split now, so many zeros xD
Oct 15 00:52:11 <Azelphur>	2.5 in "old money"
Oct 15 00:52:23 <Azelphur>	so I think that's 0.025/share
Oct 15 00:52:33 <thestringpuller>	old money?
Oct 15 00:52:33 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 15 00:52:39 <Azelphur>	they split the shares up by 100 I think
Oct 15 00:52:52 <Azelphur>	so people with 1 shares got 100 shares
Oct 15 00:52:56 <Azelphur>	so it could be traded easier
Oct 15 00:53:02 <Azelphur>	smickles: it was 100 split right?
Oct 15 00:53:06 <smickles>	yup
Oct 15 00:53:12 <Azelphur>	yea, then 0.025/share \o/
Oct 15 00:53:16 <smickles>	and it was a good plan, util glbse folded
Oct 15 00:53:19 <thestringpuller>	the original value was 2.5 btcs?
Oct 15 00:53:21 <Azelphur>	indeed
Oct 15 00:53:25 <noagendamarket>	wasnt there 95 000 shares ?
Oct 15 00:53:36 <noagendamarket>	it was at .12 last time I saw it
Oct 15 00:53:38 <smickles>	91500, iirc
Oct 15 00:53:51 <noagendamarket>	or something :D
Oct 15 00:53:52 <Azelphur>	thestringpuller: it was originally 2.5, then they split the shares up to make it easier to trade, so if I bought 1 share at the beginning at 2.5, I would have had 100 shares worth 0.025 now
Oct 15 00:53:55 <Azelphur>	kinda thing.
Oct 15 00:54:11 <thestringpuller>	so there were 915 shares to begin with @ 2.5
Oct 15 00:54:17 <thestringpuller>	1/100 split
Oct 15 00:54:18 <thestringpuller>	that's fine
Oct 15 00:54:20 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 15 00:54:21 <smickles>	thestringpuller: what did you mean by 'original value'?
Oct 15 00:54:22 <Azelphur>	yep, that sounds right
Oct 15 00:54:32 <Azelphur>	the IPO value was 1.0 then they did a second issuing at 2.0
Oct 15 00:54:40 <Azelphur>	I sold a bunch of shares at 2.5 before the second issuing
Oct 15 00:54:40 <smickles>	s2 originally launched with 500 shares at 1
Oct 15 00:54:48 <smickles>	er
Oct 15 00:54:49 <thestringpuller>	smickles: i was assuming the ipo was 2.5
Oct 15 00:54:50 <smickles>	sorry
Oct 15 00:54:54 <smickles>	610 shares
Oct 15 00:55:05 <smickles>	610 at 1 btc each at launch
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Oct 15 00:55:17 <thestringpuller>	so each share increased in value...
Oct 15 00:55:21 <smickles>	then issued 305 @ 2 (the market average) later on
Oct 15 00:55:28 <Azelphur>	thestringpuller: my history with SS is basically, I bought a buttload at launch at 1.0, sold em all for between 1.8 and 2.5, then bought again at 2.0 in the second issuance
Oct 15 00:55:38 <smickles>	then did a 100 for 1 split some time later
Oct 15 00:55:43 <thestringpuller>	I'm just doing analysis with my friend
Oct 15 00:55:51 <Azelphur>	:)
Oct 15 00:55:53 <thestringpuller>	cause this seems like a good alternative to nyan.A
Oct 15 00:56:00 <thestringpuller>	I got buttfucked on Nyan.A
Oct 15 00:56:07 <noagendamarket>	yeah
Oct 15 00:56:09 <thestringpuller>	so i had to write it off
Oct 15 00:56:15 <Azelphur>	I imagine it's not too much of an alternative now, as soon as GLBSE puts out the info it's shutting down anyway
Oct 15 00:56:26 <thestringpuller>	:(
Oct 15 00:56:29 <Azelphur>	:( indeed
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Oct 15 00:56:41 <thestringpuller>	back to the drawing board then
Oct 15 00:56:42 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i'll be compiling the next reports tomorrow
Oct 15 00:56:43 <noagendamarket>	nefario still wants to get paid LOL
Oct 15 00:56:52 <Azelphur>	so A) GLBSE puts info out and then you get bought out and it's over
Oct 15 00:56:56 <thestringpuller>	I guess I better start looking into what I want on mpex
Oct 15 00:56:58 <noagendamarket>	goodluckwiththat
Oct 15 00:56:59 <Azelphur>	B) GLBSE doesn't put info out...and your screwed, forever.
Oct 15 00:57:00 <Azelphur>	xD
Oct 15 00:57:15 <Azelphur>	as much as I'd like to sell SS shares right now, gotta tell it like it is lol
Oct 15 00:57:21 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 15 00:57:47 <smickles>	heh, mpex is either options, or hardly anything else, but better anything else than glbse had
Oct 15 00:57:53 <noagendamarket>	imagine if you burnt your workplace down and asked the boss for your wages still lol
Oct 15 00:57:57 <smickles>	(on the whole)
Oct 15 00:58:06 <Azelphur>	noagendamarket: xD
Oct 15 00:58:51 <noagendamarket>	"I spent all the petty cash and theres no receipts"
Oct 15 00:58:53 <smickles>	yeah, not that i know exactly what we're liquidating at, but buying SS @ 2.5 is probably a loss
Oct 15 00:59:14 <Azelphur>	smickles: aim high and negociate lower ;)
Oct 15 01:00:01 <Azelphur>	smickles: have you heard the zeekrewards and BS&T rumors?
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Oct 15 01:02:07 <smickles>	smickles: ofc
Oct 15 01:02:15 <smickles>	anything new there?
Oct 15 01:02:22 <Azelphur>	talking to yourself like a pro there :p
Oct 15 01:02:32 <Azelphur>	but nope, nothing new
Oct 15 01:03:17 *	smickles is so pro he lefe fessional behind
Oct 15 01:03:43 <Azelphur>	I lefe things behind all the time
Oct 15 01:07:16 <smickles>	f-ing mantis boarding parties
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Oct 15 01:07:36 <smickles>	howdy g
Oct 15 01:07:47 *	Azelphur wanders off to sleep :p
Oct 15 01:07:53 <smickles>	nn a
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Oct 15 01:10:28 <thestringpuller>	call and put options
Oct 15 01:10:42 <smickles>	indeed
Oct 15 01:11:19 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Oct 15 01:11:29 <thestringpuller>	I might as well just make a business instead of trying to bu y one
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Oct 15 01:15:53 <thestringpuller>	heh "Bitcoin is in fact first and foremost a wonderful community of highly skilled, intelligent and open minded people which tearfully reminds one of the old days of the pre-September Internet." heh
Oct 15 01:16:06 <smickles>	the faq
Oct 15 01:16:17 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 15 01:16:17 <noagendamarket>	http://genius23.com/images/samples/BLACK-STONE-MONKEY.jpg  this is bitcoin
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Oct 15 01:16:30 <thestringpuller>	Pre-september internet...
Oct 15 01:16:38 <thestringpuller>	man i like that line from the faq
Oct 15 01:16:44 <smickles>	thestringpuller: do you have an mpex account? they're expensive, although i thing coinbr.com setup a brokerage site for mpex
Oct 15 01:16:58 <smickles>	oh yeah, it's a good line
Oct 15 01:17:02 <smickles>	:)
Oct 15 01:17:40 <smickles>	s/thing/think/
Oct 15 01:17:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31254 @ 0.00042 = 13.1267 BTC [+]
Oct 15 01:17:48 <Diablo-D3>	[12:41:08] <smickles> Diablo-D3: well, i dunno, we're disolving s2cm, but i'm launching an accounting company
Oct 15 01:17:55 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, but to account what =/
Oct 15 01:18:30 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: i've got clients lined up :P
Oct 15 01:18:35 <thestringpuller>	smickles: not yet even though I could drop the cash on it I can't warrant the expenditure if I can't be sure I'll make the money back
Oct 15 01:19:07 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: but our tiny little backwoods wall street wannabe is dead
Oct 15 01:19:32 <smickles>	thestringpuller: well, to justify 30 btc, you'd probaby have to use margin and make a good call, eh?
Oct 15 01:19:53 <thestringpuller>	smickles: I'm not that good ;) I would have to have help for sure.
Oct 15 01:19:54 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: so?
Oct 15 01:19:58 <Diablo-D3>	[12:41:13] <thestringpuller> Everyone is closing their doors cause no one trusts anyone
Oct 15 01:20:06 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: yes, thats my reason to shut dmc
Oct 15 01:20:22 <thestringpuller>	I'll be patient and wait for more companies to ipo on mpex before I invest in an account
Oct 15 01:20:26 <Diablo-D3>	every company Ive tried to invest in so dmc can get there faster has pretty much fucked us one way or another
Oct 15 01:20:43 <thestringpuller>	Don't shut down
Oct 15 01:20:53 <thestringpuller>	If you're good at mining I would invest in you :)
Oct 15 01:20:55 <smickles>	thestringpuller: coinbr is probably for you then
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Oct 15 01:21:01 <Diablo-D3>	mining is dead, really
Oct 15 01:21:05 <thestringpuller>	is it?
Oct 15 01:21:11 <Diablo-D3>	its no longer profitable
Oct 15 01:21:19 <Diablo-D3>	the irony is DMC's plan made that moot
Oct 15 01:21:26 <Diablo-D3>	we could have mined everyone else under the table
Oct 15 01:21:33 <thestringpuller>	Most hardware takes 32 weeks to pay off
Oct 15 01:21:40 <thestringpuller>	32~40 weeks
Oct 15 01:21:55 <Diablo-D3>	but everyone decided to just be a bunch of faggots, so fuck it
Oct 15 01:22:06 <noagendamarket>	its not like you can invest in mt gox or bitinstant :P
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Oct 15 01:22:18 <Diablo-D3>	not that Im going to, but if I ever start another company, Im only going to deal with professional VC firms
Oct 15 01:22:53 <Diablo-D3>	not a bunch of fucking aspies flailing their arms because they invested in something they didnt understand wouldnt pay out their original investment for 2+ years
Oct 15 01:23:36 <smickles>	lol, Diablo-D3 don't vc firms look for 15x their original investment in 1 year?
Oct 15 01:23:45 <noagendamarket>	yep :P
Oct 15 01:24:18 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: scammy ones? yes
Oct 15 01:24:23 <noagendamarket>	I can double my investment inn 2 years simply by buying a house and living in it lol
Oct 15 01:24:39 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: theres a few that are fucking retarded, but they're known
Oct 15 01:24:58 <Diablo-D3>	theres _no one_ in the bitcoin community who knows what they're doing
Oct 15 01:25:42 <thestringpuller>	smickles: yes that do, but they also think that if 15-20% of the companies they invested in give them that ROI it's a "good year"
Oct 15 01:25:49 <thestringpuller>	that = they
Oct 15 01:26:12 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: smickles knows what he's doing
Oct 15 01:26:21 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: smickles didnt want to invest in dmc
Oct 15 01:26:26 <Diablo-D3>	smickles also didnt have 200k btc.
Oct 15 01:26:42 <noagendamarket>	because he knew what he was doing he didnt invest in dmc
Oct 15 01:26:43 <thestringpuller>	you had 200k btc?
Oct 15 01:26:51 <Diablo-D3>	no one had 200k btc.
Oct 15 01:26:54 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 15 01:27:21 <Diablo-D3>	noagendamarket: not at all, he didn't think the rest of the community could pony up the cash
Oct 15 01:27:24 <Diablo-D3>	he was right, in the end
Oct 15 01:27:43 <thestringpuller>	so what happened to DMC
Oct 15 01:27:51 <noagendamarket>	glbse :P
Oct 15 01:27:57 <Diablo-D3>	glbse.
Oct 15 01:28:03 <thestringpuller>	(I keep thinking DMC stands for the Delorean Motors Company)
Oct 15 01:28:15 <thestringpuller>	even though I know it stands for Diablo Mining Company
Oct 15 01:28:24 <dub>	Derp Mining Crapshoot
Oct 15 01:28:40 <noagendamarket>	DWMC Dude, wheres my company?
Oct 15 01:28:51 <thestringpuller>	http://piratetracker.info/ lol
Oct 15 01:28:54 <dub>	lol
Oct 15 01:30:03 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: is your mining equipment paid for or is it for sell or...
Oct 15 01:30:03 <noagendamarket>	wtf
Oct 15 01:30:10 <dub>	ooh ooh
Oct 15 01:30:18 <dub>	Destroy My Capital
Oct 15 01:30:21 <noagendamarket>	the piratetracker address had 780 btc sent there lol
Oct 15 01:30:26 <noagendamarket>	1Fm8e4Zd5JVYZDDFkYzhrRjaGpZoCcngPT
Oct 15 01:30:33 <dub>	Delete My Coins
Oct 15 01:30:38 <noagendamarket>	http://blockexplorer.com/address/1Fm8e4Zd5JVYZDDFkYzhrRjaGpZoCcngPT
Oct 15 01:30:43 <noagendamarket>	bahahah
Oct 15 01:30:57 <BTC-Mining>	yeah, but last transactions dates from March 2012...
Oct 15 01:31:11 <BTC-Mining>	way before the website or pirate defaulted...
Oct 15 01:31:33 <thestringpuller>	lawyers like accountants are expensive
Oct 15 01:32:09 <dub>	Damage My Credibility
Oct 15 01:32:20 <dub>	^ worked for Diablo-D3
Oct 15 01:32:57 <noagendamarket>	Didnt Mine Coins  :P
Oct 15 01:33:01 <Diablo-D3>	oh shuddup dub
Oct 15 01:33:27 <dub>	Downvote My Comments, no thats his hn
Oct 15 01:34:14 <noagendamarket>	unless it paid above 5% no one was interested in any assets
Oct 15 01:35:43 <Diablo-D3>	noagendamarket: yup
Oct 15 01:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	<Azelphur> #flawedlogic << how much did you have in mpex ?
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Oct 15 01:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	noagendamarket actually,t his is false. mpoe.etf made about 1200% over ipo price
Oct 15 01:42:26 <mircea_popescu>	nobody bought it.
Oct 15 01:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	people were just mentally retarded on glbse.
Oct 15 01:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5911 @ 0.00041666 = 2.4629 BTC [-]
Oct 15 01:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15636 @ 0.00041602 = 6.5049 BTC [-]
Oct 15 01:47:00 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: does the bitcoin community really remind you of the pre-September internet?
Oct 15 01:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	in parts.
Oct 15 01:47:12 <mircea_popescu>	certainly not the forums.
Oct 15 01:47:56 <thestringpuller>	some people are unfortunately retarded
Oct 15 01:50:51 <Diablo-D3>	forever september =/
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Oct 15 02:05:01 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: Did you mine?
Oct 15 02:06:09 <Diablo-D3>	no, I paid other people to do that
Oct 15 02:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40073 @ 0.00042 = 16.8307 BTC [+]
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Oct 15 02:17:19 <Diablo-D3>	going to bed, night all
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Oct 15 02:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51600 @ 0.00041993 = 21.6684 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 02:42:21 <BTC-Mining>	[22:22] <copumpkin> http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/19810672629/12-i-was-entrapped :)
Oct 15 02:42:34 <BTC-Mining>	That one is good too: http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/29326904495/16-a-problems
Oct 15 02:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	i kinda like the cora chick.
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Oct 15 02:54:44 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, what a surprise
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Oct 15 03:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54800 @ 0.00042 = 23.016 BTC [+]
Oct 15 03:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/29326904495/16-a-problems
Oct 15 03:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	whoa WHAT THE FUCKING HELL
Oct 15 03:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	you can't have bird feathers ?
Oct 15 03:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	fuck that bullshit country.
Oct 15 03:05:25 <BTC-Mining>	There's TONS of silly laws in the US
Oct 15 03:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	fuck that shit.
Oct 15 03:07:01 <mircea_popescu>	the us is a rogue state.
Oct 15 03:07:10 <mircea_popescu>	americans should just be executed on sight.
Oct 15 03:07:43 <BTC-Mining>	...
Oct 15 03:08:04 <BTC-Mining>	But...
Oct 15 03:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	a. i am going to pluck any bird i feel like ; b. i am going to make soup out of any turtle i get my hands on.
Oct 15 03:08:12 <BTC-Mining>	They can be repaired!
Oct 15 03:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	anyone doesn't like it better bring fucking enough ammo.
Oct 15 03:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	who cares ?
Oct 15 03:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	this is like the fucking zerg.
Oct 15 03:09:23 <BTC-Mining>	But the zergling is all cuddly, grabbing you and nibbling at your internal organs.
Oct 15 03:09:44 <BTC-Mining>	Embrace the zergling...
Oct 15 03:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Oct 15 03:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	americans. executed. on sight.
Oct 15 03:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	it is now a crime to be american.
Oct 15 03:12:16 <BTC-Mining>	I think the crime here is politicians rushing through new laws for their public opinion.
Oct 15 03:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	i do not care.
Oct 15 03:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	fucking muppets ranting on about what the sec bla bla ?
Oct 15 03:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	fuck this shit.
Oct 15 03:16:24 <BTC-Mining>	Also, did you know that those muppets might be making some of the criminal laws? Not all laws are voted by the representatives.
Oct 15 03:17:04 <BTC-Mining>	Many regulations are made by expert in their fields but who have poor or no understanding of criminal law and it's intent.
Oct 15 03:17:17 <BTC-Mining>	The website summarize the issue nicely.
Oct 15 03:18:11 <BTC-Mining>	Although the problem of "broad/uncomprehensible laws" has been quite an issue globally, in many nations.
Oct 15 03:18:13 <mircea_popescu>	it does.
Oct 15 03:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	it also explains why the united states has no room and no place in civilised society.
Oct 15 03:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	im sorry (well not really), but it was just expelled.
Oct 15 03:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	can go hang out with gabon, sierra leone and the rest.
Oct 15 03:25:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00041993 = 0.21 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 03:29:57 <BTC-Mining>	Well, you seem to be overreacting to laws being too broad in the US by creating another broad law:
Oct 15 03:29:58 <BTC-Mining>	[03:10] <mircea_popescu> it is now a crime to be american.
Oct 15 03:30:08 <BTC-Mining>	Are you sure you aren't part of the problem?
Oct 15 03:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	this isn't a law.
Oct 15 03:30:17 <mircea_popescu>	this is a matter of private policy.
Oct 15 03:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	(really, i was mostly making a point, rhetorically)
Oct 15 03:31:33 <BTC-Mining>	eh, and I wasn't really serious, just pointing out it was a rather harsh and excessive stance.
Oct 15 03:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	no it's not. it's perfectly commensurate with the offence.
Oct 15 03:32:42 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, "americans" are just born in the US, not a direct cause of everything that happens in the US
Oct 15 03:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	people that dare organise into such a state are hostes humani gener
Oct 15 03:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	universal public enemies.
Oct 15 03:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	listen, if you're part of some mob cause "you grew up into it" you still go to jail.
Oct 15 03:33:23 <mircea_popescu>	sword cuts both ways.
Oct 15 03:34:07 <BTC-Mining>	Well that would be something applied too broadly... Not everyone in the US agree with the US.
Oct 15 03:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	orly.
Oct 15 03:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	are they paying tax to the us ?
Oct 15 03:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	seems to me if you pay the mob boss you're in the mob, whether you *claim* disagreement or not.
Oct 15 03:35:25 <BTC-Mining>	Depends on the individual. Most people in every country pays taxes. Doesn't mean they all support 100% of the state.
Oct 15 03:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	yes, actually, it does, for this discussion.
Oct 15 03:36:25 <BTC-Mining>	I don't see how you could reasonably expect someone who object to any single law in a country to be able to move somewhere that has no rules they disagree with.
Oct 15 03:36:52 <BTC-Mining>	Unless everyone lived in their own one-man nation.
Oct 15 03:36:58 <mircea_popescu>	you don't have to move. you just send them your citizenship in the mail and be done with it.
Oct 15 03:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	being a us citizen is a crime in itself
Oct 15 03:37:26 <BTC-Mining>	Except that doesn't really work that way...
Oct 15 03:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	says who ?
Oct 15 03:39:17 <BTC-Mining>	Since when will any government anywhere accept to take citizenship back and accept you stop paying any taxes? Tough luck on getting that through.
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Oct 15 03:39:48 <mircea_popescu>	not the same.
Oct 15 03:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	you can renounce any citizenship, it's no big deal.
Oct 15 03:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	if you're not a citizen and are paying taxes i dun care, you're not liable.
Oct 15 03:40:29 <mircea_popescu>	i've paid taxes in maybe twenty jurisdictions so far, i don't see why anyone could claim i have anything to do with them.
Oct 15 03:40:39 <BTC-Mining>	How do you even renounce citizenship? You never agreed to that.
Oct 15 03:41:22 <BTC-Mining>	The state just decided by itself to consider you a citizen based on it's own set of rules, without your accord.
Oct 15 03:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	nah. you were born one. your citizenship really predates any law other than the consitution
Oct 15 03:41:54 <mircea_popescu>	peopel tend to forget the state is much ulterior in the process.
Oct 15 03:42:43 <BTC-Mining>	I try to completly make abstraction of the state/whatever is in place and consider each individual individually for their own actions and intent.
Oct 15 03:43:07 <BTC-Mining>	Regardless of their citizenship/government.
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Oct 15 03:43:40 <BTC-Mining>	If I see they support something I don't agree with, then I object.
Oct 15 03:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	but they are actively engaged in a criminal entreprise
Oct 15 03:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	(the us federal government)
Oct 15 03:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	this is over their head, uneffaceable.
Oct 15 03:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	us data : There were between 222-235 renunciants in 2008, between 731-743 in 2009, and about 1485 in 2010; In 2011, there were 1781 renunciants.
Oct 15 03:45:37 <EskimoBob>	can you 2 figure out how to "legalize" all the fake securities that are issued/promoted in the forum? At least you spend your energy on something useful :)
Oct 15 03:45:49 <BTC-Mining>	That's like me saying you doing business like dinning out in a mob's restaurant is being actively engaged in a criminal enterprise. You have dealings with it, it doesn't mean you know or support what they do. You simply pay them for a service. Same with citizens paying taxes.
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Oct 15 03:46:24 <BTC-Mining>	I consider it payment for services.
Oct 15 03:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob not really interested in forum bs "securities", but tell me more about the assets-otc lame mpex clone.
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Oct 15 03:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining some may accept that argument. i do not.
Oct 15 03:47:27 <BTC-Mining>	Now the issue is, there will be laws you don't agree with in every country. And pretty much every country charges taxes one way or another.
Oct 15 03:47:48 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: sorr, let me rephrase thet:  "legalize" all the fake securities that are issued/promoted in the  mpex
Oct 15 03:48:07 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining im pretty happy with romanian laws so far.
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Oct 15 03:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	obviously not laws are perfect. what we're discussing here are laws that are criminal in themselves.
Oct 15 03:49:24 <BTC-Mining>	I'm pretty sure if even if they don't abound, we could at least find a few falling under that definition of yours in romanian laws.
Oct 15 03:49:35 <mircea_popescu>	please do.
Oct 15 03:49:41 <mircea_popescu>	i'm happy with one, actually.
Oct 15 03:49:49 <EskimoBob>	can a law be criminal? Probably not but i sure can be absurd and instead of protecting people it harms them. But still, can you call it criminal?
Oct 15 03:50:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.0004165 = 7.4554 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 03:50:34 <BTC-Mining>	I'm afraid I don't have the skills required to do such legal research.
Oct 15 03:51:26 <BTC-Mining>	In any case, I'm satisfied so far of canadian laws, although I'm pretty sure there's plenty I just don't know of.
Oct 15 03:51:34 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob sure. nazi germany laws were criminal, and they created liability for loyal subjects of the 3rd reich.
Oct 15 03:51:53 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: no, they are criminal now, but not back then
Oct 15 03:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	well us laws are't criminal in the us.
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Oct 15 03:52:12 <EskimoBob>	and most are not even criminal now days
Oct 15 03:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	well most no. but most doesn't matter in this context.
Oct 15 03:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	some are an' it's good enough for me.
Oct 15 03:53:04 <EskimoBob>	my point is, your example was a hyperbole
Oct 15 03:53:49 <EskimoBob>	US laws have turned in to a pile of shit and same happens all over the world
Oct 15 03:54:22 <EskimoBob>	Law is not for protecting society any more.
Oct 15 03:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	nope, not the same, and not all over the world. this is just misguided jingoism.
Oct 15 03:54:44 <mircea_popescu>	the insanity is quite speciffic to the us, with some overlap in the 51st state (uk)
Oct 15 03:55:16 <mircea_popescu>	but yes my example was a hyperbole. problem is, it's a matching one
Oct 15 03:55:39 <BTC-Mining>	Well, yes, many country are FAR from being in such a mess as the US.
Oct 15 03:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 15 03:56:37 <BTC-Mining>	It doesn't mean the US is unrecyclable or that I'd hold every american responsible for the current situation however.
Oct 15 03:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	the only way to get the lazy bums out of their bubble of confort and don't-give-a-shit
Oct 15 03:58:46 <mircea_popescu>	is to put a gun loaded in their face.
Oct 15 03:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	responsibility is something that kills you.
Oct 15 03:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	so. all americans. strictly liable. for being part in the us war on mankind.
Oct 15 03:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	to be executed on sight.
Oct 15 04:00:50 <BTC-Mining>	Well I'm speechless
Oct 15 04:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	hey, i'm kinda speechless too.
Oct 15 04:02:04 <BTC-Mining>	If I applied that logic for anyone who is a citizen of a government I held responsible for crimes, I'd have to execute everybody on Earth, including myself.
Oct 15 04:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	really ?
Oct 15 04:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	like, for instance, the icelandic people ?
Oct 15 04:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	or whatever, andorra.
Oct 15 04:04:42 <BTC-Mining>	Simply for the fact no single government can be reasonably assumed to be 100% corruption free and applying laws correctly 100% of the time.
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Oct 15 04:04:51 <mircea_popescu>	this is a strawman argument.
Oct 15 04:05:07 <mircea_popescu>	we're not putting the standard at either 100% corruption free or applying laws at all.
Oct 15 04:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	we are putting the standard at not making laws which are enmitous to mankind.
Oct 15 04:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't even matter whether such laws are ever applied or were ever applied. the simple fact that htey exist is sufficient.
Oct 15 04:06:33 <BTC-Mining>	Corruption in governments is almost always for making laws that are not bad for mankind.
Oct 15 04:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	we're not discussing "bad for mankind". we are discussing, hostile to mankind.
Oct 15 04:08:23 <BTC-Mining>	What I meant by bad.
Oct 15 04:08:27 <BTC-Mining>	Harmful.
Oct 15 04:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	yes, but is a difference between harmful and hostile.
Oct 15 04:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	if i snipe at you while you sunbathe i am hostile, whether i hit you or not.
Oct 15 04:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	if i take the parking spot you wanted, it may be bad for you, but there's no hostility involved.
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Oct 15 04:11:36 <BTC-Mining>	the latter isn't really harmful, just vaguely inconvenient.
Oct 15 04:11:47 <BTC-Mining>	I'd class sniping someone as harmful.
Oct 15 04:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	well, if i don't hit you, no harm done.
Oct 15 04:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	harmful discusses effect. hostile discusses intent.
Oct 15 04:12:28 <BTC-Mining>	I suppose.
Oct 15 04:12:50 <BTC-Mining>	Seems more like it was an unagreement on definition of words.
Oct 15 04:13:36 <BTC-Mining>	Even so, would you claim your government has done absolutly zero hostile acts toward mankind for all the time you were a citizen?
Oct 15 04:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	you ever heard of romania starting a war ?
Oct 15 04:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	they tried to prevent the one in serbia...
Oct 15 04:14:44 <mircea_popescu>	bout all.
Oct 15 04:15:34 <BTC-Mining>	Aye, but I'm pretty sure at some point, it caused harm to its own citizen under one law or another. Although I guess that's not a receivable argument.
Oct 15 04:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, this isnt a "oh im so much bettert than anyone else" thing
Oct 15 04:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	im just trying to point out the immensity of us insanity
Oct 15 04:16:05 <BTC-Mining>	I lack facts. But so do you against american citizens for merely being american citizen.
Oct 15 04:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15319 @ 0.00041602 = 6.373 BTC [-]
Oct 15 04:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8481 @ 0.00041526 = 3.5218 BTC [-]
Oct 15 04:17:01 <BTC-Mining>	Also, since you consider intent, I suppose you wouldn't be against minors or infants who have no choice or knowing intent of causing such hostile acts. As such, why held adults responsible for inaction when they themselve are completly clueless.
Oct 15 04:18:29 <BTC-Mining>	I'd consider their inaction as a poor choice, but would not consider them responsible.
Oct 15 04:18:40 <BTC-Mining>	Purely personal opinion however.
Oct 15 04:18:50 <BTC-Mining>	To each it's set of standards and ethics.
Oct 15 04:33:55 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, guess that's it for today, 4:30 am already
Oct 15 04:34:04 <BTC-Mining>	Goodbye.
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Oct 15 04:36:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00337 = 2.696 BTC [+]
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Oct 15 05:04:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10531 @ 0.00041526 = 4.3731 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 05:29:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00041533 = 13.789 BTC [+]
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Oct 15 05:45:35 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115430.msg1273281#msg1273281
Oct 15 05:45:58 <dub>	payouts progressing well
Oct 15 05:46:14 <asa1024>	alol
Oct 15 05:46:21 <asa1024>	lol*
Oct 15 05:46:22 <asa1024>	sarcasm!
Oct 15 05:46:23 <asa1024>	I LIKE IT!
Oct 15 05:47:04 <dub>	you've got to wonder at the thought process
Oct 15 05:47:47 <asa1024>	I wonder everyday how I am able to get dressed in the morning.
Oct 15 05:48:08 <asa1024>	my next goal is to learn how to read and write! :D
Oct 15 05:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28788 @ 0.00041526 = 11.9545 BTC [-]
Oct 15 05:56:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26999 @ 0.00041471 = 11.1968 BTC [-]
Oct 15 05:56:20 <mircea_popescu>	Got the same email, didn't receive any of the bitcoin that I had there, not one iota.
Oct 15 05:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	fun stuff.
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Oct 15 06:08:01 <EskimoBob>	angry usagi is back :) and trolling like never before. #_#
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Oct 15 06:21:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1601 @ 0.00041471 = 0.664 BTC [-]
Oct 15 06:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4799 @ 0.00041453 = 1.9893 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 06:46:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00041533 = 1.5367 BTC [+]
Oct 15 06:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 2 @ 0.05044182 = 0.1009 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 07:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 8 @ 0.07418863 = 0.5935 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 07:25:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8982 @ 0.00041453 = 3.7233 BTC [-]
Oct 15 07:25:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22785 @ 0.00041389 = 9.4305 BTC [-]
Oct 15 07:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11633 @ 0.0004135 = 4.8102 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 07:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20129 @ 0.0004135 = 8.3233 BTC [-]
Oct 15 07:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13793 @ 0.00041348 = 5.7031 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 08:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27455 @ 0.00041348 = 11.3521 BTC [-]
Oct 15 08:16:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00041346 = 4.5894 BTC [-]
Oct 15 08:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20345 @ 0.00041313 = 8.4051 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 08:41:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10955 @ 0.00041313 = 4.5258 BTC [-]
Oct 15 08:41:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00041296 = 4.9555 BTC [-]
Oct 15 08:41:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3745 @ 0.00041284 = 1.5461 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 09:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00041284 = 11.8072 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 09:32:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22855 @ 0.00041284 = 9.4355 BTC [-]
Oct 15 09:32:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30845 @ 0.00041259 = 12.7263 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 09:58:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11155 @ 0.00041259 = 4.6024 BTC [-]
Oct 15 09:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00041244 = 1.2373 BTC [-]
Oct 15 09:58:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9207 @ 0.00041179 = 3.7914 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 10:17:53 <EskimoBob>	From Usagi: "... In the real world officers of a company are never, ever legally responsible for problems at the company level unless they have committed some sort of fraud or illegal act" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118507.msg1273553#msg1273553
Oct 15 10:19:43 <Smoovious>	wow...
Oct 15 10:21:49 <EskimoBob>	poor guy, he is really trolling himself
Oct 15 10:23:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6293 @ 0.00041179 = 2.5914 BTC [-]
Oct 15 10:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54607 @ 0.00041161 = 22.4768 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 10:48:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2093 @ 0.00041161 = 0.8615 BTC [-]
Oct 15 10:48:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13889 @ 0.00041055 = 5.7021 BTC [-]
Oct 15 10:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11304 @ 0.00041052 = 4.6405 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 11:14:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2464 @ 0.00041101 = 1.0127 BTC [+]
Oct 15 11:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.00041329 = 14.3825 BTC [+]
Oct 15 11:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1736 @ 0.00041387 = 0.7185 BTC [+]
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Oct 15 11:37:11 <DeaDTerra>	Anyone know the person running BTCJAM.com?
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Oct 15 11:40:39 <Cylta>	DeaDTerra: Tulkas
Oct 15 11:40:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18696 @ 0.00041052 = 7.6751 BTC [-]
Oct 15 11:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0004105 = 2.1757 BTC [-]
Oct 15 11:40:57 <DeaDTerra>	Hm, I think I will send him a message on the forum
Oct 15 11:41:02 <Cylta>	DeaDTerra: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.0
Oct 15 11:41:03 <DeaDTerra>	I am not giving out my ID to some random guy
Oct 15 11:41:14 <Cylta>	DeaDTerra: planning to take a loan there?
Oct 15 11:42:04 <DeaDTerra>	Yep :)
Oct 15 11:42:16 <DeaDTerra>	100 BTC long term loan with low rate backed by a cassius 100 BTC bar
Oct 15 11:44:01 <DeaDTerra>	The problem is I don't want to give them my ID information unless they can be trusted
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Oct 15 12:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00040908 = 5.4817 BTC [-]
Oct 15 12:06:52 <OneEyed>	DeaDTerra: aren't you the one who made fun of "paranoid people" when GLBSE was asking for this kind of information? :)
Oct 15 12:10:18 <DeaDTerra>	Nope
Oct 15 12:10:48 <DeaDTerra>	I made fun of the people saying James was a under cover FED, that demanded them to give them their IDs so that he could gather the info to arrest them :P
Oct 15 12:10:55 <DeaDTerra>	I trust James, I don't trust these BTCJAM guys
Oct 15 12:11:17 <DeaDTerra>	James has been around from the start, and I am not sure if I can say the same about the BTCJAM guys hence I am investigating
Oct 15 12:11:22 <DeaDTerra>	My laon is up ^^ https://btcjam.com/listings/179
Oct 15 12:11:24 <DeaDTerra>	loan*
Oct 15 12:11:45 <DeaDTerra>	1% a month and 100% backed
Oct 15 12:12:39 <jcpham>	http://bitcoinmagazine.net/interview-with-glbses-nefario/
Oct 15 12:12:42 <OneEyed>	Oh, I thought I had read an IRC transcript on bitcointalk earlier today. Sorry for the confusion.
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Oct 15 12:23:48 <DeaDTerra>	People qouting IRC always ends with confusion
Oct 15 12:23:54 <DeaDTerra>	as they cut out parts they don't want people to see...
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Oct 15 12:32:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00040908 = 5.318 BTC [-]
Oct 15 12:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00040874 = 3.3925 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 12:38:17 <FabianB>	;;rate jurov 3 i beta tested jurov's CoinBr (https://coinbr.com/ref?c=P55Hgmfdv2), really nice, helpful and trustworthy
Oct 15 12:38:19 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user jurov has been recorded.
Oct 15 12:39:00 <jurov>	wow thanks... it really helps after that vitriol it got on reddit
Oct 15 12:39:18 <FabianB>	jurov: got a link?
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Oct 15 12:39:50 <jurov>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/11i5tz/trading_on_biggest_bitcoin_stock_exchange_now_easy/
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Oct 15 12:42:43 <FabianB>	heh, the usual, was to be expected
Oct 15 12:43:23 <FabianB>	ppl don't get mpex, even better there's broker's like yours
Oct 15 12:44:19 <jurov>	if it was just "don't get".. it seems like mpoe-pr is murdering kittens or like
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Oct 15 12:46:47 <FabianB>	maybe it's prudish americans who can't handle that same guy runs a porn forum
Oct 15 12:49:24 <FabianB>	US is the biggest porn market, but they don't want to admit it
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Oct 15 12:50:52 <FabianB>	jurov: did you post in forum yet?
Oct 15 12:51:15 <jurov>	yes. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.0
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Oct 15 12:53:36 <FabianB>	hm. no reactions yet
Oct 15 12:54:27 <jurov>	prolly it was in the morning, nobody was around. you can bump it up if you want
Oct 15 12:55:10 <jurov>	but i saw in log some people coming from there
Oct 15 12:55:33 <FabianB>	i would, but have no working account there, sorry
Oct 15 12:56:33 <rg>	CoinBr is going to get a lot of volume
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Oct 15 12:56:37 <jurov>	maybe i'll ask mpoe-pr to say something witty there, so that flame 'll get ignited propertly
Oct 15 12:56:52 <rg>	hopefully this will get mircea to sign some new companies
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Oct 15 12:56:59 <jurov>	doesn't look so atm
Oct 15 12:57:45 <rg>	403 Forbidden
Oct 15 12:57:45 <rg>	nginx
Oct 15 12:57:46 <rg>	hehe
Oct 15 12:57:51 <rg>	that's when i go to coinbr.com
Oct 15 12:58:06 <rg>	er, www.coinbr.com
Oct 15 12:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00040966 = 2.8676 BTC [+]
Oct 15 12:58:57 <jurov>	hmm no www is set up... probably should do some redirect
Oct 15 12:59:59 <Smoovious>	at LEAST get a dyndns domain... give it the illusion of having longevity
Oct 15 13:00:21 <jurov>	e???
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Oct 15 13:02:56 <jurov>	i actually tried to get .tk domain just for fun... but it got canceled
Oct 15 13:03:10 <jurov>	apparently did not have enought traffic
Oct 15 13:04:44 <jurov>	config done. if someone insists on using www.coinbr.com, he can.
Oct 15 13:06:54 <rg>	there you go
Oct 15 13:06:56 <rg>	that's better
Oct 15 13:06:59 <rg>	jurov
Oct 15 13:07:07 <rg>	can i see a screenshot of the inside?
Oct 15 13:10:09 <Smoovious>	I meant for mpex
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Oct 15 13:12:04 <jurov>	rg, it looks very much like month ago: https://coinbr.com/images/comingsoon.png
Oct 15 13:12:31 <jurov>	yea, i should arrange some nice data and make new screenshots
Oct 15 13:13:04 <rg>	ah this is cool
Oct 15 13:13:11 <rg>	you should setup a 'walk through'
Oct 15 13:13:12 <rg>	on the main page
Oct 15 13:13:18 <rg>	just to show that it doesnt look like mPEX
Oct 15 13:13:19 <rg>	;P
Oct 15 13:14:22 <jurov>	hehe.. actually the css is very minimal, in some cases nonexistent..just the rounded corners around make the look
Oct 15 13:14:28 <rg>	yeah
Oct 15 13:14:29 <rg>	that's fine
Oct 15 13:14:41 <rg>	but to idiots, its better than mpex
Oct 15 13:14:41 <jurov>	and i shamelessly stole these corners from turbogears :)
Oct 15 13:15:12 <rg>	i need to finish the new bitvps site
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Oct 15 13:18:26 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 15 13:18:27 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.60431, Best ask: 11.6099, Bid-ask spread: 0.00559, Last trade: 11.60431, 24 hour volume: 31438, 24 hour low: 11.43, 24 hour high: 12.03
Oct 15 13:18:32 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 15 13:18:33 <gribble>	11.69
Oct 15 13:18:41 <rg>	;;asks 12
Oct 15 13:18:43 <gribble>	There are currently 5227.6743 bitcoins offered at or under 12.0 USD, worth 62291.7355482 USD in total.
Oct 15 13:18:45 <rg>	^^
Oct 15 13:18:48 <rg>	one trade back to $12
Oct 15 13:18:59 <rg>	do it smickles
Oct 15 13:19:05 <smickles>	heh, if only
Oct 15 13:19:16 <rg>	;;asks 12.2
Oct 15 13:19:17 <smickles>	maybe i should take leverage on mpex
Oct 15 13:19:19 <gribble>	There are currently 11602.386 bitcoins offered at or under 12.2 USD, worth 139682.71635 USD in total.
Oct 15 13:19:27 <rg>	why not try out coinbr.com !
Oct 15 13:19:28 <rg>	:>
Oct 15 13:20:20 <jurov>	i think we have some people around who can post referral codes, come on ;)
Oct 15 13:20:36 <kakobrekla>	already 11 at bitstamp :p http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
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Oct 15 13:23:00 <rg>	    *  0.1% from their traded/exercised amount in BTC
Oct 15 13:23:00 <rg>	    * 0.01BTC from their withdrawals
Oct 15 13:23:00 <smickles>	.py 11*1.2
Oct 15 13:23:02 <rg>	hmm
Oct 15 13:23:02 <markac>	13.2
Oct 15 13:23:11 <smickles>	er
Oct 15 13:23:13 <smickles>	.py 11*1.02
Oct 15 13:23:15 <FabianB>	well, if you want to see the order books of mpex, you still need to mpex.us with it's non-css since https://coinbr.com/ref?c=P55Hgmfdv2 has no order book proxy yet
Oct 15 13:23:16 <markac>	11.22
Oct 15 13:23:24 <FabianB>	but CoinBr overall looks very nice
Oct 15 13:23:42 <rg>	jurov could easily do that
Oct 15 13:23:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00040874 = 5.2319 BTC [-]
Oct 15 13:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00040857 = 0.2451 BTC [-]
Oct 15 13:24:27 <FabianB>	probably
Oct 15 13:25:03 <jurov>	hmmm.. so many things and so short time... i was hoping azelphur and others will come up with some code for mpex i can use...but nope
Oct 15 13:25:26 <Azelphur>	jurov: since GLBSE got shut down and he's UK based like me, it seems like I can't do anything, anyway
Oct 15 13:25:48 <rg>	someone turned nefario in
Oct 15 13:25:54 <rg>	isnt that obvious?
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Oct 15 13:26:18 <jurov>	rg, did you read his interface for btcmag?
Oct 15 13:26:20 <Azelphur>	it doesn't really matter whether he got turned in, caught, or just decided to abide by local law lol
Oct 15 13:26:30 <jurov>	nefario handed himself in
Oct 15 13:26:37 <Azelphur>	jurov: link?
Oct 15 13:26:48 <jurov>	http://bitcoinmagazine.net/interview-with-glbses-nefario/
Oct 15 13:27:27 <jurov>	and you can move to eastern europe, you're welcome :)
Oct 15 13:27:46 <Azelphur>	James: Well, after getting involved with Pirate, I lost nearly all the bitcoin that GLBSE users had left with us.
Oct 15 13:27:47 <Azelphur>	lmfao
Oct 15 13:27:52 <Azelphur>	nefario be trollin
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Oct 15 13:28:37 <jurov>	they did not ask him why he was asking KYC docs and now suddenly doesn't. are completely up his ass
Oct 15 13:29:16 <rg>	lol
Oct 15 13:29:25 <rg>	that sounsd like what happened to me almost
Oct 15 13:29:28 <rg>	i almost contacted the SEC
Oct 15 13:29:34 <rg>	about our securities on MPEX
Oct 15 13:29:36 <rg>	and mircea said..
Oct 15 13:29:40 <rg>	dont cause more trouble for yourself
Oct 15 13:29:42 <rg>	and i didn't
Oct 15 13:29:45 <rg>	nefario did
Oct 15 13:32:07 <rg>	wow
Oct 15 13:32:13 <rg>	i always knew theymos was a faggot
Oct 15 13:32:17 <rg>	but after reading that
Oct 15 13:32:18 <rg>	damn
Oct 15 13:32:43 <vampireb>	what about theymos?
Oct 15 13:32:51 <rg>	http://bitcoinmagazine.net/interview-with-glbses-nefario/
Oct 15 13:32:56 <rg>	read
Oct 15 13:32:58 <rg>	he's a piece of shit
Oct 15 13:33:24 <rg>	his refusal to help nefario suggests he had a hand in it
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Oct 15 13:35:17 <jurov>	on the other side, maybe nef wanted to get legal in spite of shareholders... so theymos dumped it
Oct 15 13:36:03 <vampireb>	i still dont see why theymos is a piece of shit?
Oct 15 13:36:09 <jurov>	i'd freak out too if my partner suddenly wanted to be recognized by authorities
Oct 15 13:36:11 <vampireb>	nefario wanted to go legal
Oct 15 13:36:28 <vampireb>	talked to laywer, got scared and closed down exchange without giving anyone an option
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Oct 15 13:37:08 <vampireb>	does any know where is theymos located?
Oct 15 13:37:12 <vampireb>	us?
Oct 15 13:37:13 <vampireb>	russia>?
Oct 15 13:37:49 <Azelphur>	that article is cool, nefario is doing exactly what I thought it would do
Oct 15 13:38:01 <Azelphur>	and I'm going to be the odd one out here and say that I agree with nefario 100%
Oct 15 13:38:18 <vampireb>	well i dont say that I disagree with Nefarion,BUT
Oct 15 13:38:32 <vampireb>	he was told the risks about running an unregulated exchange a long time ago
Oct 15 13:38:58 <vampireb>	he should have opened a company in China
Oct 15 13:39:05 <Azelphur>	yea, but on day one with no idea if it'll take off you can't spend thousands of dollars on a lawyer
Oct 15 13:39:20 <Azelphur>	now that it actually took off, he wants to make it legit, so that people/businesses can use it without fear of getting arrested
Oct 15 13:39:22 <vampireb>	you could try to get a free advice.
Oct 15 13:39:38 <Azelphur>	which is a very good thing for the whole bitcoin economy imo
Oct 15 13:39:56 <vampireb>	i cant really disagree with that, glbse was full of scams.
Oct 15 13:40:04 <Azelphur>	vampireb: free advice isn't always available, especially for niche stuff like this, a lawyer would have to spend a long time learning about bitcoin before a judgement could be made
Oct 15 13:40:31 <jurov>	azelphur, maybe it'll be good for economy, but you'll be unable to use it in that case cause you don't have any ID...
Oct 15 13:42:14 <jurov>	and we should resist that "fear of being arrested nonsense"
Oct 15 13:42:33 <vampireb>	and personally I dont have much faith in bitcoin web sites, so I won't release my ID documents
Oct 15 13:42:35 <Azelphur>	I actually don't have any ID, so I'm a prime example of someone on the bad end here
Oct 15 13:42:39 <Azelphur>	and I still 100% agree with nefario
Oct 15 13:42:55 <Azelphur>	if nefario made a legit exchange which required AML, I'd go apply for the relevant ID.
Oct 15 13:44:35 <jurov>	sad
Oct 15 13:45:12 <Azelphur>	not really, it's a very good thing for bitcoin as a whole
Oct 15 13:45:40 <Azelphur>	so many bitcoin users seem to have this silly attitude that everything can just be done anonymously and bitcoin can flourish as an international currency regardless of govornment legislation and the suchlike
Oct 15 13:46:05 <Azelphur>	but bitcoin needs legit (read: not anonymous in any way shape or form) businesses in order to flourish, this means that we need to follow the laws of the land
Oct 15 13:46:15 <vampireb>	well
Oct 15 13:46:25 <Azelphur>	the last thing we need is for people going to jail over bitcoin (unless it's for theft or something)
Oct 15 13:46:30 <jurov>	i don't have such illusions. but we also shouldn't give up so easily if the laws are absurd
Oct 15 13:47:08 <Azelphur>	I don't think these laws are so absurd, there is good reasoning behind the requirements imo
Oct 15 13:48:12 <jurov>	if the laws won't take into account inherent properties of bitcoin, it will end up so that law-abiding citizens will be harassed and have no privacy, while criminals will flourish
Oct 15 13:48:37 <jurov>	like the "software piracy" business
Oct 15 13:48:54 <jurov>	but much worse
Oct 15 13:48:54 <Azelphur>	could well be
Oct 15 13:49:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00040966 = 9.8728 BTC [+]
Oct 15 13:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17107 @ 0.0004097 = 7.0087 BTC [+]
Oct 15 13:49:20 <Azelphur>	but still, it seems like the users will be able to choose now
Oct 15 13:49:28 <Azelphur>	for unregulated out of country stock market, MPEX
Oct 15 13:49:39 <Azelphur>	for regulated, the new GLBSE if it comes to fruition
Oct 15 13:50:06 <Azelphur>	the amount of scammers, I'd probably be happier on the regulated one for most things
Oct 15 13:51:21 <jurov>	azelphur, please read this: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=939
Oct 15 13:51:47 <Azelphur>	woo, that'll take me a while.
Oct 15 13:52:06 <jurov>	i just don't believe in clinging to old law enforcement schemes.
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Oct 15 13:55:57 <Azelphur>	jurov: I don't, lots of things can be improved :)
Oct 15 13:56:34 <jurov>	and they won't be improved if everyone docilely hads themselves in.
Oct 15 13:56:39 <jurov>	*hands
Oct 15 13:56:52 <thestringpuller>	is rg still around?
Oct 15 14:00:55 <smickles>	OOOOOMFFFG!
Oct 15 14:00:58 <smickles>	!!!
Oct 15 14:01:03 <smickles>	http://imgur.com/xipb6
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Oct 15 14:01:52 <smickles>	apparently, the satoshi client produces that symbol when you mine a block :D
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Oct 15 14:07:22 <smickles>	;;rated usagi
Oct 15 14:07:22 <gribble>	You rated user usagi on Sun Oct 14 19:40:18 2012, giving him a rating of -3, and supplied these additional notes: defaulted on this: http://bitbin.it/nPDQRLME.
Oct 15 14:07:35 <smickles>	;;rate usagi -5 defaulted  on this: http://bitbin.it/nPDQRLME
Oct 15 14:07:36 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user usagi has changed from -3 to -5.
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Oct 15 14:08:19 <smickles>	;;rate usagi -5 defaulted  on this: http://bitbin.it/nPDQRLME and tries overcome simple facts with appeals to emotion
Oct 15 14:08:21 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user usagi has changed from -5 to -5.
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Oct 15 14:09:55 <thestringpuller>	smickles: sup
Oct 15 14:10:11 <thestringpuller>	usagi defaulted?
Oct 15 14:10:50 <grubles>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 15 14:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.0033525 / 0.00337 (75800 shares, 254.12 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00300231 / 0.0034 (2040952 shares, 6,127.58 BTC)
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Oct 15 14:12:02 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yes, it seems it will be resolved, but he/she has destroyed any trust I had in shim
Oct 15 14:12:52 <smickles>	thestringpuller: and usagi seems to not understand what dispute resolution is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118507.msg1273160#msg1273160
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Oct 15 14:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00040857 = 1.6343 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 14:31:55 <thestringpuller>	smickles: I have lost all faith in udagi
Oct 15 14:33:30 <copumpkin>	even lost faith in the spelling of the name
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Oct 15 14:37:40 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: lets start a club :) you are not the only one.
Oct 15 14:38:21 <EskimoBob>	I think he started to flip out when I posted a count for outstanding shares of his portfolios.
Oct 15 14:39:08 <EskimoBob>	we actually got a long OK before that. I was kinda afk for a day or so and then I discovered that he started to see evil in those numbers.
Oct 15 14:39:40 <EskimoBob>	and then it all got started... brrr.. ugly shit
Oct 15 14:40:55 <EskimoBob>	and now he is trolling my Open Art Studio Project's growdfunding attempt like there is no tomorrow :)
Oct 15 14:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00040857 = 4.0857 BTC [-]
Oct 15 14:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00040806 = 17.6282 BTC [-]
Oct 15 14:42:27 <PsychoticBoy>	hows fucking life in asset world?
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Oct 15 14:43:02 <PsychoticBoy>	some new screw overs?
Oct 15 14:43:19 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy: asset world gone to asses ass
Oct 15 14:43:45 <PsychoticBoy>	no more asset management but more like ass management lol
Oct 15 14:44:38 <PsychoticBoy>	?me is going to wipe his ass with asset paper
Oct 15 14:44:49 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Oct 15 14:45:00 *	PsychoticBoy is going to wipe his ass with asset paper
Oct 15 14:45:16 <EskimoBob>	it must feel like sandpaper
Oct 15 14:45:23 <thestringpuller>	smickles: i have lost faith in usagi
Oct 15 14:45:31 <PsychoticBoy>	yep, all skin is gone, auch
Oct 15 14:45:47 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: why? :)
Oct 15 14:45:55 <thestringpuller>	this post smickles made
Oct 15 14:46:05 <thestringpuller>	brb
Oct 15 14:46:07 <EskimoBob>	url please
Oct 15 14:46:17 <thestringpuller>	im in a meetin
Oct 15 14:46:18 <PsychoticBoy>	usagi refunded my insurance of ABM so I am cool with usagi
Oct 15 14:46:20 <thestringpuller>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118507.msg1273160#msg1273160
Oct 15 14:46:38 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: ^ check that
Oct 15 14:46:42 <thestringpuller>	brb
Oct 15 14:47:24 <EskimoBob>	oh this one, with a epic "In the real world officers of a company are never, ever legally responsible for problems at the company level unless they have committed some sort of fraud or illegal act. "
Oct 15 14:47:32 <EskimoBob>	by Usagi
Oct 15 14:48:48 <PsychoticBoy>	??
Oct 15 14:49:03 <PsychoticBoy>	ok pass the ball
Oct 15 14:52:16 <EskimoBob>	I guest this guy forget that he is the sole representative of his make-believe Co's and he fucked everyone over while making one stupid mistake after another. Oh well... what else can I say
Oct 15 14:53:12 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy: lucky you for getting your coin.
Oct 15 14:55:22 <PsychoticBoy>	If not, he would be instantly scammer taged
Oct 15 14:55:43 <PsychoticBoy>	I have a contract
Oct 15 14:55:54 <PsychoticBoy>	signed by usagi and deadterra
Oct 15 14:58:16 <EskimoBob>	there is 3 separate threads demanding a scammer tag for him. This must be a record?
Oct 15 15:00:12 <smickles>	< PsychoticBoy> If not, he would be instantly scammer taged <<< it's not instant even with a signed contract ;)
Oct 15 15:01:09 <PsychoticBoy>	no, but theymos would see this as a obvious scam, so scammer tag instantly
Oct 15 15:01:18 <PsychoticBoy>	and I am a mod too
Oct 15 15:02:05 <smickles>	oh you mod you :)
Oct 15 15:04:19 <smickles>	EskimoBob: nefario had at least 3 at once too
Oct 15 15:04:24 <PsychoticBoy>	yes Im mod me ;)
Oct 15 15:04:42 <Ukto>	what was the last going rate for JAH before GLBSE dropped? or the avg price btc per MH? ( I remember it used to sit around 0.3btc/share avg)
Oct 15 15:06:27 *	Ukto mod's PsychoticBoy
Oct 15 15:06:39 <PsychoticBoy>	:D
Oct 15 15:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00040806 = 2.9788 BTC [-]
Oct 15 15:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5729 @ 0.00040785 = 2.3366 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 15:11:45 <Ukto>	anyone have ideas on the per MH share price?
Oct 15 15:12:57 <kakobrekla>	i have logs
Oct 15 15:13:04 <kakobrekla>	but on a offline hdd
Oct 15 15:13:27 <kakobrekla>	hm
Oct 15 15:13:35 <kakobrekla>	accually assbot know the last value
Oct 15 15:13:38 <kakobrekla>	knows
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Oct 15 15:15:30 <Ukto>	how do you ask it? never used it
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Oct 15 15:18:03 <kakobrekla>	"5d02a8600becea472ee67ee2f6bc56a8";s:8:"0.100001";
Oct 15 15:18:04 <kakobrekla>	there you go
Oct 15 15:18:08 <kakobrekla>	last trade
Oct 15 15:18:30 <kakobrekla>	i dont have an amount
Oct 15 15:18:33 <kakobrekla>	just price.
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Oct 15 15:19:46 <Ukto>	wow.. dropped all the way to 0.1btc per mh? 0,o
Oct 15 15:20:37 <Ukto>	any mining assets on mpex with an easy to figure price per MH ?
Oct 15 15:21:45 <kakobrekla>	there is just one
Oct 15 15:21:46 <kakobrekla>	:>
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Oct 15 15:23:17 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: can you publish those numbers? I like to manually update my gdocs charts
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Oct 15 15:25:59 <kakobrekla>	nah im too busy jerking off to polish porn or something
Oct 15 15:26:14 <EskimoBob>	lol
Oct 15 15:26:21 <EskimoBob>	sorry for that
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Oct 15 15:27:01 <kakobrekla>	http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Wg2xpGia
Oct 15 15:27:02 <EskimoBob>	i did not mean anything bad with it, I guess it was right after the event you went to (in Poland?)
Oct 15 15:27:08 <kakobrekla>	serialized array
Oct 15 15:27:24 <kakobrekla>	key = md5(exchange.ticker)
Oct 15 15:27:55 <EskimoBob>	huh... how do I use that?
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Oct 15 15:29:24 <kakobrekla>	well, first we need to know all the tickers
Oct 15 15:29:48 <kakobrekla>	to find the proper key - value
Oct 15 15:30:41 <kakobrekla>	or we bruteforce it
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Oct 15 15:33:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2390 @ 0.00040785 = 0.9748 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 15:37:48 <kakobrekla>	i guess i could get all the tickers from that csv or whatever floating around
Oct 15 15:38:21 <EskimoBob>	that will be really cool, if you can make it human readable :)
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Oct 15 15:38:44 <EskimoBob>	for test:  echo -n "BMF" | md5sum
Oct 15 15:38:54 <EskimoBob>	nothing
Oct 15 15:39:14 <kakobrekla>	but you can get last trades from that csv no?
Oct 15 15:39:35 <kakobrekla>	EskimoBob, try "GLBSEBMF"
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Oct 15 15:40:18 <EskimoBob>	better :)
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Oct 15 15:44:51 *	smickles wants to build a bot on -otc which will deliver cash to people in exchange for bitcoin via a quadcopter drone
Oct 15 15:45:07 <Azelphur>	smickles: that'd be awesome, but I bet the range wouldn't be that great xD
Oct 15 15:45:15 *	smickles feels like there are too many issues with it tho
Oct 15 15:46:17 <dub>	handsome coke sniper + paper wallets
Oct 15 15:46:29 <pigeons>	also could deliver dried flowers
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Oct 15 15:48:06 *	rdponticelli would love to be able to forget that there's such a thing as cash...
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Oct 15 15:51:31 <smickles>	ok, then, what we need to do is send me enough btc that i can start a company which sell quadcopter bots which are meant to operate as a decentralized, trustless, quadcopter delivery network, ,where whomever purchases the drone receives a comission for each delivery the drone performs
Oct 15 15:51:42 <smickles>	get on it guys :D
Oct 15 15:51:49 <smickles>	;;gpg info smickles
Oct 15 15:51:50 <gribble>	User 'smickles', with keyid EA62D7CEB2450C3F, fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6, registered on Mon Jun 20 12:24:35 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=smickles . Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com .
Oct 15 15:51:56 <smickles>	12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
Oct 15 15:52:04 <smickles>	^ that's the addy ;)
Oct 15 15:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20381 @ 0.00040785 = 8.3124 BTC [-]
Oct 15 15:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1319 @ 0.00040703 = 0.5369 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 16:04:18 <dub>	smickles: sounds suspiciously like the ellet idea
Oct 15 16:04:40 <dub>	smickles must be MNW
Oct 15 16:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	nowai ?!
Oct 15 16:06:12 <smickles>	ellet?
Oct 15 16:06:43 <dub>	e-wallet
Oct 15 16:08:52 <jurov>	so, coinbr now features imgur screenshot gallery.. with an exercise order that will make you dream
Oct 15 16:09:23 <smickles>	jurov: is there a 'stop-loss' feature?
Oct 15 16:09:50 <jurov>	not yet
Oct 15 16:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	imgur screenshot gallery ?! da fuck is that lol
Oct 15 16:11:29 <jurov>	by popular request... so that potential users can see it's not so scary as mpex
Oct 15 16:11:48 <jurov>	there was even idea that i do beautified order book
Oct 15 16:11:49 <mircea_popescu>	o o o lol
Oct 15 16:12:09 <smickles>	jeez
Oct 15 16:12:34 <smickles>	the blockchain taint tool indicates that usagi has hundreds of btc under his control
Oct 15 16:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Oct 15 16:13:22 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: you still around?
Oct 15 16:15:38 <thestringpuller>	jurov is there an api?
Oct 15 16:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	you want an api to talk to the thing which talks to  my api ?
Oct 15 16:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	wtf!
Oct 15 16:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	people are set on breaking the internets
Oct 15 16:16:30 <jurov>	thestringpuller, https://github.com/jurov/MPExAgent
Oct 15 16:16:59 <jurov>	that needs mpex acct, tho. i don't see an coinbr api in near future.
Oct 15 16:17:44 <jurov>	high frequency trading with multiple users on one mpex acct is just not feasible atm.
Oct 15 16:18:50 <smickles>	why would you do high frequency trading w/o a 'maker rebate'?
Oct 15 16:18:54 <thestringpuller>	lol! i see
Oct 15 16:19:17 <thestringpuller>	i control things through bots mostly
Oct 15 16:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	there's a lot of problems to be accounted for. it's difficult to make a secure api in the first place. even if you do, making a chain of two be comparably fast to one alone is not trivial.
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Oct 15 16:23:36 <smickles>	i'm baffled
Oct 15 16:24:20 <smickles>	someone clearly violates a signed contract, and people accuse the violated party of scamming
Oct 15 16:24:25 *	riX2000_ is now known as riX2000
Oct 15 16:24:38 <smickles>	and it seems to happen so often
Oct 15 16:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	details ?!
Oct 15 16:24:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00040845 = 7.3521 BTC [+]
Oct 15 16:25:01 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118507
Oct 15 16:25:04 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: wzz up?
Oct 15 16:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	hm, contract says you have to use judge.me ?
Oct 15 16:26:22 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: that's arbitration tho, this is not a dispute resolution
Oct 15 16:26:29 <smickles>	there isn't  even a dispute
Oct 15 16:26:34 <smickles>	usagi admits default
Oct 15 16:27:06 <mircea_popescu>	. Any controversy or claim
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Oct 15 16:27:34 <smickles>	how does that reach out to a scammer tag on bitcointalk?
Oct 15 16:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	well, let's see. usagi doesn't admit default, in what he posts there ?
Oct 15 16:30:50 <smickles>	he admitted it to me. but this is a side issue. agreeing to arbitration concerns the legal aspects of dispute resolution. not labels on a forum or private discussions
Oct 15 16:30:52 <mircea_popescu>	now, it's not a matter of YOU being a scammer, or the disclosure being improper or anything
Oct 15 16:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	but i can see how the forum people would go, well, come with a judge.me result first.
Oct 15 16:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	(forum people = those doling out the tags)
Oct 15 16:31:51 <smickles>	if they want the judge.me result for a scammertag, they are changing the way they do things
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Oct 15 16:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Oct 15 16:32:52 <smickles>	because i recall them giving scammer tags to people who agreed to judge.me resolution w/o there even being a claim filed
Oct 15 16:33:54 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: lets take down Usagi rough shim up.
Oct 15 16:34:16 <dub>	shim it out
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Oct 15 16:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	smickles a, that's good then. link ?
Oct 15 16:35:11 <mircea_popescu>	(not me, them on the forum)
Oct 15 16:35:30 <smickles>	and the scammer tag is a warning mechanism, not a settlement process, this augustocroppo was assusing me of breaking the contract by calling for a scammer tag
Oct 15 16:35:47 <pigeons>	don't worry about forumrates
Oct 15 16:35:50 <pigeons>	*forumrats
Oct 15 16:36:07 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh, i'll look, but i don't feel confident i'll find it :|
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Oct 15 16:36:16 <thestringpuller>	as mircea_popescu says, they are stuck in eternal september
Oct 15 16:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	smickles pigeons prolly has it, i vaguely recall that name under the idiot tag.
Oct 15 16:37:36 <smickles>	funny thing is, there are a few people who owe usagi btc who are willing to pay this debt, usagi just has to agree
Oct 15 16:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	but as a general principle, it's hard to ask for any third party action on a contract with a dispute resolution clause that wasn't met.
Oct 15 16:38:09 <BTC-Mining>	ah, at last
Oct 15 16:38:18 <BTC-Mining>	A vanity bitcoin address
Oct 15 16:38:26 <smickles>	that took a while
Oct 15 16:38:30 <smickles>	what did you get?
Oct 15 16:38:43 <thestringpuller>	i thought vanity addresses were easy to generate?
Oct 15 16:39:02 <smickles>	BTC-Mining either had bad luck, or low power
Oct 15 16:39:16 <smickles>	or wanted 12 characters or somehthing
Oct 15 16:39:18 <BTC-Mining>	I only have a 6950...
Oct 15 16:39:19 <dub>	depends on difficulty
Oct 15 16:40:25 <BTC-Mining>	Difficulty was between 800 - 900 billion
Oct 15 16:40:55 <BTC-Mining>	7 letter, case sensitive
Oct 15 16:40:57 <BTC-Mining>	1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk
Oct 15 16:41:14 <thestringpuller>	amjies lol
Oct 15 16:41:23 <BTC-Mining>	I also wanted a number/capital letter following the letters
Oct 15 16:41:41 <BTC-Mining>	Namjies*
Oct 15 16:42:06 <rdponticelli>	You do deserve a scammer tag, smickles. How do you dare to expect a payback on a bitcoin loan? That's scamming!
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Oct 15 16:42:26 <thestringpuller>	it is scammibg
Oct 15 16:42:35 <BTC-Mining>	It had to start with that specific string and be followed by a number... pretty harsh.
Oct 15 16:42:56 <BTC-Mining>	I was only running at 11 megakey/s
Oct 15 16:44:42 <BTC-Mining>	rdponticelli, who was it who refused to repay loan because that was not "theft" since bitcoins aren't "real money"?
Oct 15 16:44:56 <smickles>	rdponticelli: IKR, and I discussed it in a non-binding fashion, outside of arbitration! How dare I?!
Oct 15 16:45:24 *	smickles is such a cocksucker he eats shit
Oct 15 16:46:05 <pigeons>	and you loaned the money to an unlicensed illegal insurance company that sold unregistered securities!
Oct 15 16:46:42 <dub>	to a magical samurai rabbit boy girl person no less
Oct 15 16:47:09 <dub>	tbh, scam accusations are retarded
Oct 15 16:47:18 <pigeons>	NO U!
Oct 15 16:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	dub depends. the girl's got theymos pretty talkative in short order.
Oct 15 16:47:41 <dub>	scam tags issued by a scammer are not useful
Oct 15 16:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	the process is more useful than the result i guess.
Oct 15 16:47:56 <dub>	nor is bitcointalk.org in ngeneral
Oct 15 16:48:00 <smickles>	dub: that's a good point
Oct 15 16:48:51 <smickles>	i should just stoppit with the forum already
Oct 15 16:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	smickles hire pr :D
Oct 15 16:49:48 <smickles>	heh, got a good recomendation?
Oct 15 16:49:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6181 @ 0.00040703 = 2.5159 BTC [-]
Oct 15 16:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3719 @ 0.00040613 = 1.5104 BTC [-]
Oct 15 16:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	notrly.
Oct 15 16:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	maybe reeses
Oct 15 16:50:02 <smickles>	lol
Oct 15 16:50:23 <smickles>	(lol before reeses, i dunno reeses)
Oct 15 16:50:32 <mircea_popescu>	you dunno reeses ?!
Oct 15 16:50:50 <smickles>	i've heard of reeses, but not interacted with reeses much
Oct 15 16:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	one of the few true girls on the interwebs. your loss.
Oct 15 16:51:47 <rdponticelli>	BTC-Mining: I don't know. I recall bulanula arguing that he can't return what was overpaid to him, because bitcoin transactions wasn't reversible
Oct 15 16:51:59 <thestringpuller>	the girl isnt a girl lol
Oct 15 16:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Oct 15 16:52:23 <thestringpuller>	that was a question
Oct 15 16:52:32 <thestringpuller>	i am typing with my thumbs at work
Oct 15 16:52:49 <pigeons>	i'm typing with one hand too, everytime thestringpuller talks
Oct 15 16:53:37 <thestringpuller>	huh pigeons ?
Oct 15 16:53:52 <thestringpuller>	are you masturbating?
Oct 15 16:54:10 <pigeons>	hold on
Oct 15 16:54:20 <pigeons>	say something else
Oct 15 16:54:41 <pigeons>	say "I'm your sister"
Oct 15 16:55:12 <copumpkin>	I am your father
Oct 15 16:55:14 <thestringpuller>	i'm your sister as a teen
Oct 15 16:55:25 <pigeons>	oh copumpkin
Oct 15 16:57:42 <dub>	rdponticelli: bulanula was the first account I ignored, the final straw
Oct 15 16:58:41 <dub>	now im ruthless
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Oct 15 16:59:27 <dub>	life is too short to even acknowledge people with so little worth
Oct 15 17:04:20 <rdponticelli>	dub: yeah, I just read lightly about the case
Oct 15 17:04:36 <rdponticelli>	Obviously it wasn't worthwhile
Oct 15 17:05:49 <rdponticelli>	But I found funny some arguments you can found around
Oct 15 17:07:28 <smickles>	"it's not illegal b/c we didn't use fiat"
Oct 15 17:07:30 <smickles>	lol
Oct 15 17:07:53 <rdponticelli>	Somebody should make a wiki
Oct 15 17:08:03 <smickles>	encyclopediabitcoinica.com
Oct 15 17:08:30 <rdponticelli>	Well, somebody should make a page with the Scammer's arguments
Oct 15 17:10:32 <smickles>	rdponticelli: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Good_arguments
Oct 15 17:10:59 <smickles>	rdponticelli: do you remember where that came from? I want to source it
Oct 15 17:11:05 <rdponticelli>	smickles: you're wiki :)
Oct 15 17:11:36 <rdponticelli>	No, I have no idea
Oct 15 17:12:19 <rdponticelli>	Don't forget: I can't give it back, b/c bitcoins transactions are irreversible
Oct 15 17:12:21 <pigeons>	it's not a scam if you use bitcoin
Oct 15 17:13:04 <smickles>	lol
Oct 15 17:13:06 <smickles>	http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/GLBSE
Oct 15 17:13:10 <smickles>	hahahaha
Oct 15 17:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining here : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/ you're famous now
Oct 15 17:13:56 <mircea_popescu>	(again)
Oct 15 17:14:44 <kakobrekla>	wiki still getting spammed with new users
Oct 15 17:14:56 <kakobrekla>	http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
Oct 15 17:14:59 <kakobrekla>	terrible.
Oct 15 17:15:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00040613 = 1.3808 BTC [-]
Oct 15 17:19:00 <pigeons>	hmm my ignore of BTC-Mining doesn't work on mircea_popescu's website
Oct 15 17:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	you're ignoring him ?!
Oct 15 17:19:16 <pigeons>	and Iraq is the 51st state
Oct 15 17:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	nah, it ain't. had they the sense to make it a state it'd have actually been interesting.
Oct 15 17:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine the russians muchly objected.
Oct 15 17:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you were the original source of trouble tho weren't you, with linking that blog.
Oct 15 17:20:49 <pigeons>	oh did I? I don't actually read the things i paste
Oct 15 17:21:24 <pigeons>	what blog is that from?
Oct 15 17:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	linked right at beginning lol
Oct 15 17:22:50 <pigeons>	hmm, could have been me but probably not, i don't remember it. I like the comics a lot though
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Oct 15 17:23:48 <mircea_popescu>	<BTC-Mining> [22:22] <copumpkin> http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/19810672629/12-i-was-entrapped :)
Oct 15 17:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	<BTC-Mining> That one is good too: http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/29326904495/16-a-problems
Oct 15 17:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	it was our good friend the pumpkin.
Oct 15 17:24:09 <copumpkin>	the best one is the one with the pony in it
Oct 15 17:24:10 <pigeons>	yeah i knew i wasn't that clever
Oct 15 17:24:17 <copumpkin>	cause the NY criminal lawyer is a brony
Oct 15 17:26:16 <BTC-Mining>	I'm being spread on the interwebz!1!!1!!!
Oct 15 17:26:37 <BTC-Mining>	Argh, I'm not butter!
Oct 15 17:28:22 <jurov>	mircea, good you weren't here when azephur said he abandoned development because he doesn't wanted to go to jail
Oct 15 17:28:54 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol srsly ?!
Oct 15 17:29:11 <jurov>	sadly
Oct 15 17:29:25 <BTC-Mining>	He abandoned development of what exactly?
Oct 15 17:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see an issue with going to jail b/c bitcoin.
Oct 15 17:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	i'm much more worried about not pushing it hard enough.
Oct 15 17:29:50 <pigeons>	they hate us for our freedoms!
Oct 15 17:29:58 <jurov>	he was diong something with mpex back in may, posted some screenshots
Oct 15 17:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	jurov actually iirc he made a fully functional python script that most everyone uses.
Oct 15 17:30:38 <jurov>	yes. but he wanted to make something with graphs iirc.
Oct 15 17:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	$RandomStr, [url=http://theeliteporn.com/]qpmjnfejb[/url], $RandomStr,
Oct 15 17:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	jesus blog comment spammers are getting more retarded by the month.
Oct 15 17:31:02 <BTC-Mining>	... how would that be illegal in the US?
Oct 15 17:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining right. lol.
Oct 15 17:32:10 <BTC-Mining>	Oh, wait... I remember what they say: "Everyone in the US is a criminal since everything is illegal."
Oct 15 17:33:38 <jurov>	coding
Oct 15 17:33:55 <dub>	why are project managers universally brain damaged
Oct 15 17:34:30 <BTC-Mining>	Because people that are not brain damaged are needed to do actual work.
Oct 15 17:34:42 <mircea_popescu>	actually... i'm a project manager.
Oct 15 17:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is, project managers who aren't brain damaged have much better titles even if what they mostly do is manage projects
Oct 15 17:35:10 <BTC-Mining>	That's why you put the smart one on a computer and the retard as the manager to whip the troop and be loud.
Oct 15 17:35:13 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu is brain damaged
Oct 15 17:35:18 <copumpkin>	not sure it's a good counterexample
Oct 15 17:35:26 <mircea_popescu>	the ones without no better title than pm are like the reserve nobody ever picks
Oct 15 17:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin im not brain damaged, i'm brain damaging. world of difference :D
Oct 15 17:35:47 <copumpkin>	oh, fair enough
Oct 15 17:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	lmao jurov what bs in that chatlog.
Oct 15 17:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	glbse was taking off ? in what paralel universe are we talking ?
Oct 15 17:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	thing was going to shit, the fact that i killed them back in may finally landed in their thick skulls, quick grab for as much money as possible ensued as part of the unwinding procedures.
Oct 15 17:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	has absolutely zero to do with any "laws".
Oct 15 17:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	 <Azelphur> the amount of scammers, I'd probably be happier on the regulated one for most things << what are you, retarded ?! seriously now.
Oct 15 17:39:00 <mircea_popescu>	glbse has a proven track record of scammer-promotion.
Oct 15 17:39:02 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: scammers be everywhere
Oct 15 17:39:05 <Azelphur>	glbse wasn't regulated
Oct 15 17:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	that's bullshit.
Oct 15 17:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	the thing existed to promote scams.
Oct 15 17:39:34 <BTC-Mining>	wait. Did you just attribute yourself the closure of GLBSE?
Oct 15 17:39:41 <EskimoBob>	"33:56 thestringpuller | EskimoBob: lets take down Usagi rough shim up." - funny :) I think usagi is taking himself down at the moment. Maybe this is his exit "strategy" and he is going to announce how he feels insulted and leaves for good. A girlish exit lol
Oct 15 17:39:46 <Azelphur>	perhaps but that's irrelephant to my statement
Oct 15 17:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	i don't appreciate the misguided attempt to turn that scandal into some sort of "oh, it's what it is"
Oct 15 17:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining when you go from being the lone player in the market to struggling to keep your 20% share...
Oct 15 17:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya, you can try 6 month's denial. and then ?
Oct 15 17:41:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00040613 = 1.7057 BTC [-]
Oct 15 17:42:47 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: I do not want to start any pissing contest here but whay do you think your exchange is any different than GLBSE (excluding the looks etc)
Oct 15 17:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	it's secure.
Oct 15 17:43:26 <EskimoBob>	anything else?
Oct 15 17:43:35 <mod6>	and you don't allow any random moron to issue a security
Oct 15 17:43:50 <mircea_popescu>	it has a lot of volume.
Oct 15 17:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	it actually lists securities as opposed to scams
Oct 15 17:44:12 <Doffx>	Apparently there are only 2 people that are not moron's in his book
Oct 15 17:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	and on it goes, but i won't bother with all the many countless ways glbse was UNDER the minimum conceivable standard.
Oct 15 17:44:24 <EskimoBob>	and how is this "it's secure" makes the crapp issued there any less crappier than what GLBSE had listed?
Oct 15 17:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx the problem is that most people who would be worthy to list do not want to get involved with what glbse + the forum have convinced them "investors" are
Oct 15 17:44:51 <mircea_popescu>	ie, complete and utter idiots with no mony.
Oct 15 17:45:05 <jurov>	i just morally won an reddit argument r/MPEx, hear me roar: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/11i5tz/trading_on_biggest_bitcoin_stock_exchange_now_easy/
Oct 15 17:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob have you bothered to read an actual contract there ?
Oct 15 17:45:18 <mircea_popescu>	your laziness to inform yourself isn't really my responsibility you know.
Oct 15 17:45:32 *	mircea_popescu looks
Oct 15 17:45:45 <EskimoBob>	yes, thye are funny amateurish copy/paste legalese bull crap
Oct 15 17:46:03 <Doffx>	Obviously there was plenty of BTC.
Oct 15 17:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob heh.
Oct 15 17:46:28 <Doffx>	As far as the investors go I dont really know how to answer that part.
Oct 15 17:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx think about it for a second. you've made some nice business that actually makes sense, economically.
Oct 15 17:46:53 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: heh? That's it? Heh? :)
Oct 15 17:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	unlike the "i will pay you X from secret sources" a la obsi.
Oct 15 17:47:09 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx now go read the thread where evoorhees announces s.dice, and see what those assholes have to say.
Oct 15 17:47:12 <EskimoBob>	dude, you and Nefario/Glbse gang are actually the same :)
Oct 15 17:47:20 <mircea_popescu>	read the part where the girl explains to them they are fucking themselves over, and read their replies.
Oct 15 17:47:31 <EskimoBob>	just on looked a bit better
Oct 15 17:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	why would the owner want to be involved with the collection of retards that glbse has collected ?
Oct 15 17:47:57 <Doffx>	So alienate everyone instead?
Oct 15 17:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob you at some point have to come to terms with the harsh, cold reality that you calling something x or y has little power to make it be x or y.
Oct 15 17:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx "everyone"
Oct 15 17:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	people with  10 btc worth capital and 10k btc worth of bigmouth are NOT useful investors.
Oct 15 17:48:48 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: calling everyone a retard is more like usagis line of defence or proof of some make believe shit
Oct 15 17:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob "everyone"
Oct 15 17:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, we need to stop with the everyone already.
Oct 15 17:49:29 <EskimoBob>	OK, everyone was overstatement but lets say most
Oct 15 17:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	it's inadequate to imagine you can speak for "everyone" on the internets.
Oct 15 17:49:37 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob can I pm you?
Oct 15 17:49:42 <Doffx>	I agree that’s a stupid argument. People want to have a voice, and if educated and or kept informed are usually easy to work with.
Oct 15 17:49:50 <PsychoticBoy>	Am I everyone?
Oct 15 17:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	yes, i fully intend to allienate most self-declared investors on internet forums.
Oct 15 17:49:52 <EskimoBob>	and that cunt (you in a derss?) is really bad PR
Oct 15 17:49:56 <Doffx>	I think your just seeing a lot of fallout from Pirate, and now Glbse.
Oct 15 17:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	i actually think it is irresponsible as a business practice not to.
Oct 15 17:49:59 <Doffx>	Angry people.
Oct 15 17:50:15 <EskimoBob>	sure you can PM me
Oct 15 17:50:16 <dub>	mircea_popescu: true true, I have a pm buddy that is currently contracted to a bank, as CIO
Oct 15 17:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx this may well be very true.
Oct 15 17:50:45 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: why not educate those retards a bit?
Oct 15 17:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob i educate with a whip.
Oct 15 17:50:59 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Oct 15 17:51:09 <mircea_popescu>	it works tho.
Oct 15 17:51:15 <EskimoBob>	not in the forum
Oct 15 17:51:22 <EskimoBob>	they start to cry and walk
Oct 15 17:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	ok.
Oct 15 17:51:27 <EskimoBob>	nothing has changed
Oct 15 17:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	then problem solved, they've selfselected.
Oct 15 17:51:34 <EskimoBob>	you lose
Oct 15 17:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	haha what exactly do i lose ?!
Oct 15 17:51:39 <EskimoBob>	no, you lose
Oct 15 17:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	this is like saying a college turning down applicants "loses"
Oct 15 17:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	no, it gains.
Oct 15 17:51:52 <EskimoBob>	potential customers
Oct 15 17:51:55 <Doffx>	I told you dummies it was a scam is not very educating, " I told you so " In general usually just puts people off and shuts them down completely.
Oct 15 17:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	they aren't either potential or customers.
Oct 15 17:52:04 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: selection drives everything
Oct 15 17:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller yup.
Oct 15 17:52:18 <Doffx>	You have a chance to make Mpex the best thing out there I just dont think it will happen.
Oct 15 17:52:19 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx have you seen the girl's posts on the subject ?
Oct 15 17:52:29 <mircea_popescu>	for instance, the cdo post which everyone shunned and then COPIED ?
Oct 15 17:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	without even saying, hey, we learned this from X ?
Oct 15 17:52:40 <Doffx>	I have, I find her rude, and yes I know shes right it her tone.
Oct 15 17:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	i think i win plenty.
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Oct 15 17:53:20 <mircea_popescu>	let's give out some links
Oct 15 17:53:26 <mircea_popescu>	.g personal responsibility and the ponzi scam
Oct 15 17:53:26 <markac>	mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.0
Oct 15 17:53:35 <Doffx>	I find her information useful at the same time she needs to tone it down.
Oct 15 17:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	.g mpex cdo roll call
Oct 15 17:53:41 <markac>	mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76515.20
Oct 15 17:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	now compare the reaction to those two. do people whine about her tone ? surely.
Oct 15 17:54:11 <Doffx>	I'm not explaining that correctly, but she could really help people if she just went about it in a better way.
Oct 15 17:54:13 <mircea_popescu>	do they submit, obey and learn ? sure they do.
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Oct 15 17:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	beatings, frequent and vicious, are the only right way to educate.
Oct 15 17:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	there's no better way.
Oct 15 17:55:12 <mircea_popescu>	jurov "polimedia is a forged domain" ?! wtf does that even mean ?!
Oct 15 17:55:56 <jurov>	idk, just hat they insist it is registered on some restaurant address
Oct 15 17:56:09 <BTC-Mining>	... it means... the domain... was crafted by a blacksmith
Oct 15 17:56:18 <BTC-Mining>	forged domain
Oct 15 17:56:30 <jurov>	forged ftw
Oct 15 17:56:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/11i5tz/trading_on_biggest_bitcoin_stock_exchange_now_easy/c6mvs1v someone could point out to him that well... s.dice is on coinbr / mpex lol
Oct 15 17:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	amusing how superficial people are tho.
Oct 15 17:57:25 <jurov>	i'm done with that discussion and fully satisfied.
Oct 15 17:57:26 <darkee>	anyone else got an glbse email about an hour ago about restored funds w/o having received anything? kinda makes me wonder if I actually fucked up and gave a wrong btc address for the payout but it's too late to even see which address I put in -.-
Oct 15 17:57:35 <BTC-Mining>	Why do people "invest" in SatoshiDice...
Oct 15 17:57:43 <BTC-Mining>	and by invest, I mean bet, not get shares
Oct 15 17:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	(if this makes anyone feel better, there were likely people who complained about the .us tld, because neustar sent an email, received proof they asked for, declared themsleves satisfied)
Oct 15 17:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	darkee a lot of people have, and many were here reporting being paid.
Oct 15 17:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	were you not ?
Oct 15 17:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining well... it's quick.
Oct 15 17:58:34 <darkee>	not yet anyway, no :|
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Oct 15 17:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	how much did you have ?
Oct 15 17:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	(order of magnitude)
Oct 15 17:59:13 <darkee>	nothing significant, ~20
Oct 15 17:59:18 <BTC-Mining>	eh, many have but haven't been paid
Oct 15 17:59:18 <darkee>	still would like to have them ;D
Oct 15 17:59:19 <copumpkin>	that's an order of magnitude
Oct 15 17:59:21 <copumpkin>	so 10^~20
Oct 15 17:59:28 <copumpkin>	which is a decent chunk o' change
Oct 15 17:59:39 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin evil
Oct 15 17:59:54 <darkee>	nah it's ~20 real not power of anything, although 10^20 would be quite nice ^^
Oct 15 17:59:54 <BTC-Mining>	Guess I was lucky, was amongst the first to be paid and actually got paid.
Oct 15 17:59:57 <copumpkin>	I am known for being the most evil pumpkin in the land
Oct 15 18:00:06 <mircea_popescu>	darkee 20 is significant. some people never received anything but we put it down to rounding (which yes, is a horrible practice but what can you say)
Oct 15 18:00:20 <Azelphur>	copumpkin: don't forget that you're a fed too
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Oct 15 18:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	20 is not a rounding error in any way tho
Oct 15 18:00:28 <copumpkin>	oh yeah?
Oct 15 18:00:33 <Azelphur>	indeed
Oct 15 18:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	he's not a fed, he's a geek
Oct 15 18:00:46 <darkee>	yea guess I'll wait and see until tomorrow, not like I can actually do anything about it for now anyway
Oct 15 18:00:50 <copumpkin>	I'm thinking of maybe changing job
Oct 15 18:00:53 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: a fedgeek :p
Oct 15 18:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	fagdick ?
Oct 15 18:01:13 <Azelphur>	close enough
Oct 15 18:01:30 <Azelphur>	copumpkin: what you thinking of changing to? :p
Oct 15 18:01:47 <copumpkin>	I was gonna become a janitor
Oct 15 18:02:26 <copumpkin>	bbiab
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Oct 15 18:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin are you one of those otakus that think the janitor always works in a teenage prison school for girls, mostly cleans underwear off the floor and ends up fucking the entire roster ?
Oct 15 18:05:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4896 @ 0.00040845 = 1.9998 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53800 @ 0.00040954 = 22.0333 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14171 @ 0.0004097 = 5.8059 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20302 @ 0.00041016 = 8.3271 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00041038 = 17.0308 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.0004133 = 21.161 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37164 @ 0.00041387 = 15.3811 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43735 @ 0.00041511 = 18.1548 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2675 @ 0.00041533 = 1.111 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.0004165 = 10.3292 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00041693 = 0.9589 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00041704 = 5.2964 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0004171 = 5.2555 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00041713 = 17.6863 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58541 @ 0.0004183 = 24.4877 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51100 @ 0.00041887 = 21.4043 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00041934 = 7.3804 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1508516 @ 0.00042 = 633.5767 BTC [+]
Oct 15 18:05:56 *	jurov droppes underwear
Oct 15 18:06:03 <jurov>	*dropped
Oct 15 18:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	apparently i need to talk more about underwear.
Oct 15 18:06:20 <mircea_popescu>	is that what you meant Doffx ?
Oct 15 18:06:30 <Doffx>	?
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Oct 15 18:06:51 <mircea_popescu>	<Doffx> You have a chance to make Mpex the best thing out there I just dont think it will happen. <<
Oct 15 18:06:57 <Doffx>	I dunno the links you provided me just proves my point, she turns people away.
Oct 15 18:07:03 <mircea_popescu>	then, i talk about underwear, then 1.5mn shares sell
Oct 15 18:07:14 <Doffx>	I dont think it will happen and Ill be honest here.
Oct 15 18:07:30 <mircea_popescu>	because she's not "nice" to people ?
Oct 15 18:07:32 <Doffx>	You and her turn people away with your personalities.
Oct 15 18:07:49 <mircea_popescu>	listen, are you aware in the us people aren't even ALLOWED to invest unless they have millions in property ?
Oct 15 18:07:53 <Doffx>	Not because I dont think you have the best product.
Oct 15 18:08:22 <Doffx>	I invest, I dont have to invest in the bullshit markets to invest.
Oct 15 18:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	what do you invest in ?
Oct 15 18:08:38 <Doffx>	Ill be sitting pretty soon as this bullshit falls apart, provided I survive it.
Oct 15 18:09:05 <Doffx>	I dont want to talk about what I Invest in.
Oct 15 18:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	a ok.
Oct 15 18:09:16 <Doffx>	Bitcoin, investments sure.
Oct 15 18:09:43 <jurov>	please at least enlighten us, which product is the best, then?
Oct 15 18:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	now, the us implementation of many things is the pits, but most of the principles behind it are sound.
Oct 15 18:10:00 <Doffx>	I'm not attacking you either mircea_popescu because I listen to your advice when I find it valuable.
Oct 15 18:10:03 <mircea_popescu>	the notion that you shouldn't allow absolutely anyone to "invest" is, imo, sound.
Oct 15 18:10:45 <Doffx>	You and the girl understand whats going on with all these complicated investment strats, I certainly dont get them.
Oct 15 18:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it's also very impopular, given the very particular ethos of the bitcoin community, but something being impopular doesn't make it any less sound.
Oct 15 18:11:19 <jurov>	hehe, czechoslovakia of 1990's with millions of shareholders comes to mind
Oct 15 18:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	jurov or the great depression. you know that legend of the guy who overheard his domestics discussing share investments and decided to sell evertrthing ?
Oct 15 18:12:36 <jurov>	no
Oct 15 18:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	lemme dig for it.
Oct 15 18:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	Joseph Kennedy, father of the late John. F. Kennedy, made the family’s fortune by selling off all his stocks right before the 1929 crash. The carefully crafted media tale, says that Kennedy decided to sell his stocks after overhearing shoeshine boys speculating on the stock market.
Oct 15 18:13:11 <BTC-Mining>	the S.MPOE has a full 1 billion shares right?
Oct 15 18:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining yes
Oct 15 18:13:28 <BTC-Mining>	eh, that's a lot of shares
Oct 15 18:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice will eventually have 100mn
Oct 15 18:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	(it already has, just 90mn of them are locked till ipo finishes)
Oct 15 18:14:18 <BTC-Mining>	.5 cent each
Oct 15 18:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 15 18:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.0033525 / 0.00337 (75800 shares, 254.12 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00300231 / 0.0034 (2040952 shares, 6,127.58 BTC)
Oct 15 18:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 15 18:14:37 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.86, Best ask: 11.8812, Bid-ask spread: 0.02120, Last trade: 11.85, 24 hour volume: 35604, 24 hour low: 11.43, 24 hour high: 12
Oct 15 18:14:46 <mircea_popescu>	.py 11.86 * 0.0033525
Oct 15 18:14:50 <markac>	0.03976065
Oct 15 18:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	4 cent yeah
Oct 15 18:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	omg penny market
Oct 15 18:15:16 <BTC-Mining>	5 million valuation, earns ~10 - 25k per month
Oct 15 18:15:17 <matthewh3>	the ex GLBSE asset 'RSM' is now going to use 'coloured coin' to prove ownership and pay dividends.  We will look at helping shareholders issue there own assets on Open-Transaction servers valued against there coloured coins.  We had enough investment for 180(GH/s) of ASIC's and will be saving 50% of profits towards buying more ASIC's.
Oct 15 18:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	conceptually tho, i think shares should really work in 1k blocks. so you know, like 40 dollars for "traditional share"
Oct 15 18:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	matthewh3 what's a colored coin ?
Oct 15 18:16:02 <BTC-Mining>	The whole coloured coin and Open-Transaction thing seems like a mess.
Oct 15 18:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	do they really mean black coin ?!
Oct 15 18:16:51 <BTC-Mining>	How does one keeps track of their colored coins? One wallet for each?
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Oct 15 18:17:31 <BTC-Mining>	and transfer them to others?
Oct 15 18:17:34 <BTC-Mining>	eh
Oct 15 18:17:36 <matthewh3>	tho we are using this idea - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117630.0
Oct 15 18:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	There are other approaches, and the one I have taken is very simple, but it is a working solution (primitively duct-taped and glued together).
Oct 15 18:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	hm. this may not be such a good ideea with a live company
Oct 15 18:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	if that's what rsm is
Oct 15 18:19:37 <BTC-Mining>	I'd personally stay clear of any such option until there's convenient options for coloured coins.
Oct 15 18:20:08 <BTC-Mining>	I mean, you have a BTC address tied to asset holders, just use that for communication
Oct 15 18:20:20 <BTC-Mining>	People can sign requests with their current BTC address
Oct 15 18:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	. It will be paid to the same address which is registered as the owner of the colored coins - but the receiver will need to be careful when spending the dividends, so it doesn't accidentally spend the transaction that represents the share.
Oct 15 18:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	ow god.
Oct 15 18:20:33 <mircea_popescu>	while this is in principle a good ideea, the implementation is awful.
Oct 15 18:21:24 <BTC-Mining>	I can already see people accidentally spending them and people receiving random payments while holding said colored coins and being "wtf?"
Oct 15 18:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Oct 15 18:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	not only that, but here's a problem : if someone makes 1bn shares of something, this means 1bn satoshi are now out of circulation
Oct 15 18:22:10 <matthewh3>	no the coloured coins are kept in there own blockchain.info/wallet and dividends go where you want
Oct 15 18:22:12 <BTC-Mining>	I don't see that as a problem...
Oct 15 18:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	tieing total float to total satoshi float is impossible.'
Oct 15 18:22:50 <matthewh3>	then people can trade there ownership
Oct 15 18:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	this means there will never be more than 21`000`000`0000`0000 shares in total, of everything.
Oct 15 18:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	and you can't reuse the colored coins of dead assets.
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Oct 15 18:23:42 <matthewh3>	yes you can reuse coloured coins from dead assets
Oct 15 18:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	this seems to me a huge problem.
Oct 15 18:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	matthewh3 how ?
Oct 15 18:24:09 <matthewh3>	read the threads I posted
Oct 15 18:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	dude srsly.
Oct 15 18:24:35 <mircea_popescu>	suppose PPT.A issued colored coins, that's some satoshis colored with PPT.A
Oct 15 18:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	that is now defunct
Oct 15 18:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	can i use those satoshis for my new company ? no, i can not, they have to be dead forever.
Oct 15 18:25:05 <BTC-Mining>	Because if you have dead coins in your possession, you can retag them again for another company I guess.
Oct 15 18:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise i inject shareholders into my new company that have no relation to it (provided they kept their original PPT.A colored coins)
Oct 15 18:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining ya but i mean...
Oct 15 18:25:34 <matthewh3>	central stock exchanges defeat the very idea of bitcoin
Oct 15 18:25:44 <BTC-Mining>	<mircea_popescu> otherwise i inject shareholders into my new company that have no relation to it (provided they kept their original PPT.A colored coins)
Oct 15 18:25:53 <matthewh3>	coloured coins and smart property are the future
Oct 15 18:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	matthewh3 that's nonsense. bitcoin is bitcoin, not stock exchange.
Oct 15 18:26:00 <BTC-Mining>	No, because you don't have the coins from all shareholders
Oct 15 18:26:15 <BTC-Mining>	Just part of them and those get recolored.
Oct 15 18:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining i was just envisaging a sort of ICANN mess for satoshi-colored property.
Oct 15 18:26:26 <BTC-Mining>	They basically overlap.
Oct 15 18:26:47 <BTC-Mining>	But doesn't affect shareholders who kept colored coins of dead assets.
Oct 15 18:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining so then i could color some active companie's coins with my own colors, arbitrarily
Oct 15 18:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	now a guy holding that double colored coin can't get rid of only one of the two
Oct 15 18:27:12 <BTC-Mining>	Yes. Now the coins you colored have 2 colors.
Oct 15 18:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	ouch.
Oct 15 18:27:24 <mircea_popescu>	ok, this is a horrible idea.
Oct 15 18:27:31 <matthewh3>	pleb
Oct 15 18:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	dude you can't be creating medieval-style tokens of indivisible ownership
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Oct 15 18:27:59 <BTC-Mining>	Well, yeah. I find so too.
Oct 15 18:28:20 <matthewh3>	goes against your Mpex maybe but coloured coins and smart property are the future of bitcoin
Oct 15 18:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	how exactly does it go against my mpex ?
Oct 15 18:28:34 <BTC-Mining>	Nah, it's a mess
Oct 15 18:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	if i thought the idea has any merit i could go in and dominate the lot of you lol.
Oct 15 18:28:45 <BTC-Mining>	I'm in favor of each company issuing their own centrally managed blockchain and leaving Bitcoins alone.
Oct 15 18:28:56 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining this may work, especially with merged mining
Oct 15 18:28:59 <matthewh3>	*yawns
Oct 15 18:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	tho it's quite the barrier to entry to new issuers, so there would be requirement for specialised issuers to service them
Oct 15 18:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	and then those mgiht want to only run 1 chain for all the assets they manage
Oct 15 18:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	(there's the problem of chainbloat, if you have 100 chains of 2gb each going on your hdd)
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Oct 15 18:30:59 <matthewh3>	once bitcoin market cap goes up the governments will be interested and central exchanges will be the first target.  with coloured coins p2p exchanges are possible.
Oct 15 18:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35581 @ 0.00040613 = 14.4505 BTC [-]
Oct 15 18:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20419 @ 0.00040609 = 8.292 BTC [-]
Oct 15 18:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	this may be a good point, but the problems are technical not political atm.
Oct 15 18:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	there's any number of ways to implement a p2p exchange, this one's pretty much a hack.
Oct 15 18:31:51 <BTC-Mining>	bah, best yet, have each issuer have their own 1 security exchange script and let people trade on it.
Oct 15 18:32:06 <BTC-Mining>	If the exchange fails, no other security is affected.
Oct 15 18:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining the costs of maintaining this are non trivial.
Oct 15 18:32:41 <mircea_popescu>	rather than put each egg on top of a traffic light, you might be better off putting all eggs in one basket and watching that basket.
Oct 15 18:32:57 <BTC-Mining>	yeah
Oct 15 18:33:50 <BTC-Mining>	Well colored coins could work if they were on their own blockchain and were not divisible (1 coin = 1 share) and not recolorable.
Oct 15 18:34:11 <BTC-Mining>	You can then trade those coins for Bitcoins at whatever rate you wish.
Oct 15 18:34:32 <matthewh3>	that's the basic idea 2nd part
Oct 15 18:35:06 <BTC-Mining>	You could even use the same address. Like if you have 1 sharecoin on address xyz, dividends in bitcoins are sent to bitcoin address xyz
Oct 15 18:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	that last point is particularly good.
Oct 15 18:35:53 <BTC-Mining>	You just have two clients watching a different blockchain but using the same address.
Oct 15 18:35:55 <matthewh3>	coloured coins can be traded at will p2p only at the moment the dividend address need changing manually on trading them.
Oct 15 18:36:00 <cellofellow>	I'm assuming you don't mean a peer to peer BTC-to-USD exchange? (That'd be cool, though. Not sure how it'd work though.)
Oct 15 18:36:12 <matthewh3>	no
Oct 15 18:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	have a 2ndary chain, which a. can be mergedmined with btc ; b. uses identical addressspace to btc ; has infinite number of coins.
Oct 15 18:36:26 <BTC-Mining>	yes
Oct 15 18:36:28 *	cellofellow just jumps into a conversation again
Oct 15 18:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	cellofellow no, we discussing securities
Oct 15 18:36:39 <cellofellow>	like stocks?
Oct 15 18:36:43 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Oct 15 18:36:47 <cellofellow>	nifty
Oct 15 18:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	this is what this chan is about, hence -assets.
Oct 15 18:36:55 <cellofellow>	ah
Oct 15 18:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining actually with a little help the main client could have a stocks tab
Oct 15 18:37:01 <BTC-Mining>	that's what we need. I'm pretty sure the sharecoin concept was already proposed however.
Oct 15 18:37:06 <matthewh3>	using coloured coins to prove ownership and pay dividends
Oct 15 18:37:21 <BTC-Mining>	mircea_popescu: yeah
Oct 15 18:37:29 <mircea_popescu>	o god i think i came a little.
Oct 15 18:37:33 <mircea_popescu>	now THAT is the future.
Oct 15 18:37:49 <cellofellow>	better get coding ;-)
Oct 15 18:37:56 <mircea_popescu>	i'm no coder
Oct 15 18:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	im a finance type
Oct 15 18:38:17 <cellofellow>	then fincance a coder I guess :)
Oct 15 18:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol now that might be an idea :D
Oct 15 18:38:34 <BTC-Mining>	matthewh, no colored bitcoins. I don't like the idea of mixing bitcoins with shares.
Oct 15 18:38:49 <BTC-Mining>	another blockchain using the same address space
Oct 15 18:38:54 <matthewh3>	I've already put up a bounty for continued coloured coins development
Oct 15 18:39:04 <BTC-Mining>	ah, where?
Oct 15 18:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	cellofellow tbh this would be a huge effort, nothing for 1 person. we're still playing around the outskirts of specifying it yet anyway.
Oct 15 18:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining how would miners of 2nd chain be paid ?
Oct 15 18:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	something like, 1 share of each type existant per block mined ?
Oct 15 18:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	fixed btw ?
Oct 15 18:40:00 <mircea_popescu>	btc*
Oct 15 18:40:24 <cellofellow>	1 coder-size jobs don't usually need much funding, but bigger ones would need to be, so once your ideas are somewhat concrete, you know what to do I guess.
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Oct 15 18:42:21 <matthewh3>	then all we need is a p2p way to trade coloured coins for normal coin
Oct 15 18:47:12 <BTC-Mining>	mircea_popescu... eh... would have to think about that.
Oct 15 18:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	is the biggest hole i can see right now.
Oct 15 18:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	maybe fixed btc payment per block could work, if the entire thing is administered by some sort of central authority like a professional association of the stock exchanges
Oct 15 18:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	exept... now it's centralised again.
Oct 15 18:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	to make it purely uncentralised would really require some hm
Oct 15 18:48:22 <BTC-Mining>	I suppose the blockchain could support permanent tainting of coins by the current holders if signed by the holder's address
Oct 15 18:48:40 <BTC-Mining>	as such, to issue shares, an asset manager would have to buy blank coins from a miner
Oct 15 18:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	ya but how do you pay the miners ?
Oct 15 18:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	which one lol
Oct 15 18:48:54 <mircea_popescu>	o o o i see what you mean!
Oct 15 18:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	hey, this is actually a good ideea.
Oct 15 18:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	so miners get the blanks
Oct 15 18:49:14 <BTC-Mining>	We just need to have this done...
Oct 15 18:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	and there's no reward reduction, you just keep getting 1 bn new coins each block
Oct 15 18:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	i think someone should run this by gavin and gang.
Oct 15 18:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	hey Luke-Jr are you around a sec ?
Oct 15 18:50:03 <Luke-Jr>	?
Oct 15 18:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	i wanna run an idea by you.
Oct 15 18:50:34 <mircea_popescu>	so proposed is a paralel blockchain which can be mergedmined with btc and shares the same address space (ie, same key signatures as btc addresses)
Oct 15 18:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	miners get 1bn coins per block mined, and coins are perma-tained.
Oct 15 18:50:57 <dub>	inb4 scamcoin
Oct 15 18:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	this could work as a support for a p2p stocks accounting system
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Oct 15 18:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	whoever wants to issue shares has to buy the blanks from a miner that has them blank
Oct 15 18:51:25 <Luke-Jr>	…
Oct 15 18:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	there's no reward halving or anything.
Oct 15 18:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	does this make any sense whatsoever ?
Oct 15 18:51:41 <Luke-Jr>	no
Oct 15 18:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	can you ellaborate ?
Oct 15 18:52:08 <Luke-Jr>	TD and jgarzik are already working on some kind of smart property system within Bitcoin
Oct 15 18:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	i know about that.
Oct 15 18:52:21 <Luke-Jr>	that's what #bitcoin-dev is for
Oct 15 18:52:23 <Luke-Jr>	<.<
Oct 15 18:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	can you get a little over the procedural issues and just discuss on the merits ?
Oct 15 18:52:53 <BTC-Mining>	Why does it has to use the Bitcoin blockchain?
Oct 15 18:53:25 <Luke-Jr>	BTC-Mining: how else can you guarantee payment?
Oct 15 18:53:44 <dub>	might be better with a 'energy lite' coin like a PoS
Oct 15 18:53:51 <BTC-Mining>	Luke-Jr, by having both the sharecoins and bitcoins sharing the same address space
Oct 15 18:53:51 <Luke-Jr>	BTC-Mining: the way they're doing it, a single transaction changes ownership of the stock and also remits the payment for it
Oct 15 18:54:00 <Luke-Jr>	BTC-Mining: address space is irrelevant
Oct 15 18:54:22 <BTC-Mining>	the address holding the sharecoin gets paid the bitcoins
Oct 15 18:55:31 <BTC-Mining>	Aye, but having to isolate colored coins in the Bitcoin blockchain and provide a mechanism to not spend them yet receive Bitcoins directly on the same address seems unpractical.
Oct 15 18:55:39 <Luke-Jr>	BTC-Mining: and if he never gives the shares over?
Oct 15 18:56:02 <Luke-Jr>	BTC-Mining: Bitcoin-Qt 0.7 added a raw transaction API just for things like this
Oct 15 18:56:53 <BTC-Mining>	Excellent then.
Oct 15 18:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31581 @ 0.00040609 = 12.8247 BTC [-]
Oct 15 18:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27419 @ 0.00040606 = 11.1338 BTC [-]
Oct 15 18:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	in fact atomicity of transaction is a huge deal.
Oct 15 18:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	so prolly this idea is no good simply on the grounds that it has nop way to guarantee it.
Oct 15 18:58:31 <BTC-Mining>	Wait, if someone never gives the share? You mean like an exchange of colored coins/bitcoins being preauthorized so the exchange is made together safely?
Oct 15 18:58:46 <BTC-Mining>	Without any third party?
Oct 15 18:59:09 <Luke-Jr>	right
Oct 15 18:59:23 <Luke-Jr>	there's a single transaction that transfers the payment (in Bitcoins) and also transfers the stocks
Oct 15 18:59:28 <Luke-Jr>	both parties sign it
Oct 15 18:59:31 <BTC-Mining>	Well that would be a huge plus in favor of keeping everything on the same blockchain
Oct 15 18:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
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Oct 15 19:00:18 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr thanks :)
Oct 15 19:00:20 <Luke-Jr>	imagine a day where cars check the blockchain to validate the key opening them :P
Oct 15 19:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	i like jgarzik more and more.
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Oct 15 19:02:30 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, but with bitcoins being divisible indefinitly and being a deflationary currency, wouldn't you run into the risk a colored coin becoming more valuable than the underlying asset or being colored multiple time?
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Oct 15 19:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	 divisible indefinitly  << this is false
Oct 15 19:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	there are no more than 21`000`000`0000`0000 bitcoin units.
Oct 15 19:03:31 <BTC-Mining>	It could be changed if needed
Oct 15 19:03:43 <mircea_popescu>	it could, yea.
Oct 15 19:03:59 <BTC-Mining>	There's technically no limit to how much we could further allow it to be split.
Oct 15 19:04:01 <mircea_popescu>	but see, if you later add further subdivision
Oct 15 19:04:07 <BTC-Mining>	Just a limit on how much is created
Oct 15 19:04:13 <mircea_popescu>	the current satoshis will still be high not low bits.
Oct 15 19:04:49 <BTC-Mining>	Also any share blackholed would forever get dividends being blackholed...
Oct 15 19:05:33 <BTC-Mining>	Although I guess we could consider that a share donated to the whole bitcoin economy at large...
Oct 15 19:05:47 <BTC-Mining>	With dividends benefitting every holder.
Oct 15 19:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	this is somewhat of a problem, blackholed shares
Oct 15 19:08:25 <BTC-Mining>	Well no really, any blackholed dividends going to those shares would reduce circulating Bitcoins, raising value of remaining Bitcoins.
Oct 15 19:08:53 <BTC-Mining>	So it would really be like dividends spread to every other bitcoin holder.
Oct 15 19:13:47 <Luke-Jr>	BTC-Mining: the coloured coins are 0 value
Oct 15 19:14:12 <BTC-Mining>	??
Oct 15 19:14:33 <Luke-Jr>	amount = 0x0000000000000000 satoshis
Oct 15 19:14:42 <BTC-Mining>	Oh...
Oct 15 19:14:48 <Luke-Jr>	Bitcoin does not have rule that coins must have a positive value
Oct 15 19:14:50 <Luke-Jr>	just non-negative :P
Oct 15 19:14:56 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 15 19:15:10 <BTC-Mining>	Wow... wasn't aware that was even possible
Oct 15 19:15:27 <BTC-Mining>	So basically anyone could create as much 0 value coins and mark them.
Oct 15 19:15:27 <Luke-Jr>	p2pool uses it for a hack merged mining optimization
Oct 15 19:15:33 <Luke-Jr>	if miners accept it
Oct 15 19:15:46 <Luke-Jr>	I don't think any miners accept 0-value coins without a fee right now
Oct 15 19:17:08 <BTC-Mining>	Well technically, miners accept transactions with their set minimum fee, so shouldn't having a big enough fee along the zero value coins work?
Oct 15 19:17:20 <Luke-Jr>	hence "without a fee"
Oct 15 19:17:34 <Luke-Jr>	Eligius will charge more than ordinary for a zero-value coin
Oct 15 19:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahah kickass
Oct 15 19:17:58 <BTC-Mining>	Well we already pay fees to trade shares on exchanges like MPEx or defunct GLBSE
Oct 15 19:18:10 <Luke-Jr>	right
Oct 15 19:18:16 <BTC-Mining>	I don't see sending a fee with those zero value coins as a problem at all
Oct 15 19:18:17 <mircea_popescu>	dude i want to know if satoshi DID THIS ON PURPOSE
Oct 15 19:18:35 <BTC-Mining>	tough luck mircea, he's no longer around
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Oct 15 19:18:52 <rdponticelli>	I won't be so sure
Oct 15 19:19:11 <rdponticelli>	We just don't know who he is
Oct 15 19:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's the butler.
Oct 15 19:19:34 <rdponticelli>	It's always the butler...
Oct 15 19:19:38 <noagendamarket>	probably jed Mccaleb
Oct 15 19:19:58 <BTC-Mining>	But I have just found a renewed love for Bitcoins over a feature I wasn't aware of.
Oct 15 19:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining funny how that works.
Oct 15 19:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	but it's so damn clever this thing.
Oct 15 19:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	people keep whining about jail ? fuck it, i see little problem in going to jail for bitcoin. i'm a bitcoin patriot.
Oct 15 19:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 644 @ 0.00040741 = 0.2624 BTC [+]
Oct 15 19:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28856 @ 0.00040871 = 11.7937 BTC [+]
Oct 15 19:22:49 <rdponticelli>	Maybe I could concentrate a lot more if I was in jail...
Oct 15 19:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	ikr ? less bitches rubbing into me while im trying to type, more predictable schedule...
Oct 15 19:23:43 <noagendamarket>	its different for people with families
Oct 15 19:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	people with families have no business dicking around the fronteer.
Oct 15 19:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	especially not if they're going to whine about their families then.
Oct 15 19:24:26 <noagendamarket>	of course
Oct 15 19:24:36 <rdponticelli>	People with families are already on the dead end
Oct 15 19:24:53 <Luke-Jr>	ok, I guess you just kicked all the developers out of the bitcoin project…
Oct 15 19:24:54 <rdponticelli>	I'm refusing to enter there
Oct 15 19:25:09 <rdponticelli>	lol
Oct 15 19:25:20 <noagendamarket>	Most of the developers have families and kids :D
Oct 15 19:25:30 <rdponticelli>	No, we need people with families too
Oct 15 19:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr do you know of that guy that renounced us citizenship to be able to do cryptography in peace ?
Oct 15 19:26:00 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: no
Oct 15 19:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	Vincent Cate
Oct 15 19:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	lives in like... hm. some A place.
Oct 15 19:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.efc.ca/pages/media/nytimes.06sep98.html there
Oct 15 19:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	anguilla.
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Oct 15 19:27:53 <noagendamarket>	I wonder why you cant renounce citizenshipo while youre still in the country
Oct 15 19:28:15 <Diablo-D3>	you can
Oct 15 19:28:21 <Diablo-D3>	you'll just be immediately arrested and deported
Oct 15 19:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	where to ?
Oct 15 19:28:40 <noagendamarket>	what the
Oct 15 19:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	the united states ?
Oct 15 19:28:49 <Diablo-D3>	oh, easy
Oct 15 19:28:52 <Diablo-D3>	the sun
Oct 15 19:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	lolright.
Oct 15 19:29:13 <Diablo-D3>	actually Im kidding
Oct 15 19:29:16 <noagendamarket>	if you try to tell the cops you have no citizenship they still tazer you :P
Oct 15 19:29:21 <Diablo-D3>	they'll just execute you for being a foreign spy
Oct 15 19:29:57 <thestringpuller>	has anyone used bitcrow?
Oct 15 19:30:08 <mircea_popescu>	"There's less chance of getting in any trouble with the U.S. government and there's also less chance of getting shot by a terrorist"
Oct 15 19:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	this was 3 years before 7/11
Oct 15 19:30:52 <Luke-Jr>	9/11?
Oct 15 19:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	ya that.
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Oct 15 19:48:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00040606 = 2.9642 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 19:56:00 <smickles>	"I fail to faglow" wise words from mircea_popescu
Oct 15 19:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol?
Oct 15 19:58:59 <noagendamarket>	did usagi forget to take their meds ?
Oct 15 20:04:02 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/LEqTl
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Oct 15 20:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	a haha
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Oct 15 20:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3181 @ 0.00040606 = 1.2917 BTC [-]
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Oct 15 20:19:37 <thestringpuller>	whats the news on usagi?
Oct 15 20:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	Mithridates married his first young sister Laodice. Laodice was 16 years old and was her brother’s first wife. Mithridates married Laodice to preserve the purity of their blood-line, as a wife to rule with him as a sovereign over Pontus, to ensure the succession to his legitimate children, and to claim his right as a ruling monarch.
Oct 15 20:22:01 <dub>	too old
Oct 15 20:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	well they didn't have internets back then
Oct 15 20:26:01 <smickles>	oh no, bitcoin has taken over my mind
Oct 15 20:26:12 <smickles>	i just tried to use the command "ifcoinfig"
Oct 15 20:27:33 <dub>	lulz
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Oct 15 20:28:14 <dub>	but really, the 80s calledplease return their retarded tools
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Oct 15 20:28:52 <smickles>	what do you use to find out an unknown local ip?
Oct 15 20:29:12 <dub>	iproute2 (ip addr)
Oct 15 20:29:29 <smickles>	okies, i'll check it out :)
Oct 15 20:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	if coin is a fig ?
Oct 15 20:30:10 <dub>	inb4 fagBSD
Oct 15 20:32:06 <smickles>	;;bc,stats
Oct 15 20:32:08 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 203469 | Current Difficulty: 3054627.5269486 | Next Difficulty At Block: 203615 | Next Difficulty In: 146 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 23 hours, 45 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3061065.26839779 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.210753729952
Oct 15 20:32:21 <smickles>	oh, not a drop?
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Oct 15 20:33:31 <dub>	not looking likely
Oct 15 20:34:29 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 15 20:34:29 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.86396, Best ask: 11.9897, Bid-ask spread: 0.12574, Last trade: 11.86396, 24 hour volume: 26620, 24 hour low: 11.43, 24 hour high: 11.9899
Oct 15 20:34:43 <smickles>	oh, bact to >11.85?
Oct 15 20:34:49 <smickles>	*back
Oct 15 20:35:00 <smickles>	;;bt,24hrprc
Oct 15 20:35:01 <gribble>	Error: "bt,24hrprc" is not a valid command.
Oct 15 20:35:07 <smickles>	;;bt,24hprc
Oct 15 20:35:07 <gribble>	Error: "bt,24hprc" is not a valid command.
Oct 15 20:35:12 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 15 20:35:14 <gribble>	11.68
Oct 15 20:39:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44619 @ 0.00040587 = 18.1095 BTC [-]
Oct 15 20:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11344 @ 0.00040871 = 4.6364 BTC [+]
Oct 15 20:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49348 @ 0.00040982 = 20.2238 BTC [+]
Oct 15 20:39:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55044 @ 0.00041087 = 22.6159 BTC [+]
Oct 15 20:39:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.0004177 = 5.6807 BTC [+]
Oct 15 20:39:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00041888 = 2.5133 BTC [+]
Oct 15 20:39:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 420045 @ 0.00042 = 176.4189 BTC [+]
Oct 15 20:39:50 <rdponticelli>	It's monday
Oct 15 20:39:59 <rdponticelli>	Weekend dip is over
Oct 15 20:40:10 <dub>	lewl
Oct 15 20:40:36 <dub>	I herd kim dotcom sold some bitcoins
Oct 15 20:41:22 <rdponticelli>	Somebody is pretty determined to buy all the S.MPOE
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Oct 15 20:44:27 <rg>	anyone here interested in ordering dinner for me
Oct 15 20:44:29 <rg>	in exchange for btc?
Oct 15 20:44:31 <rg>	i cant find anyone in -otc
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Oct 15 20:45:06 <dub>	sure, If I get to choose what you have
Oct 15 20:45:14 <rg>	heh no
Oct 15 20:45:57 <dub>	one full bag of hamster dicks enroute
Oct 15 20:46:16 <BTC-Mining>	eh, rg, I would but
Oct 15 20:46:36 <BTC-Mining>	Thing I don't like with that is it appears on my credit card/banking statements
Oct 15 20:46:54 <BTC-Mining>	Which would require me to convert more bitcoins to fiat to pay bills
Oct 15 20:47:00 <BTC-Mining>	Which looks like income.
Oct 15 20:47:10 <BTC-Mining>	Which I report and pay taxes on.
Oct 15 20:48:10 <BTC-Mining>	I just don't want to explain that the money appearing in my account is not income but that I make credit card purchases for others.
Oct 15 20:48:26 <BTC-Mining>	I would actually like everything to be transactable directly into bitcoins...
Oct 15 20:48:32 <BTC-Mining>	with*
Oct 15 20:49:25 <rg>	lol so ' no '
Oct 15 20:49:43 <BTC-Mining>	yeah
Oct 15 20:50:20 <BTC-Mining>	I think I'd have to be registered as a money transfer service to make credit card payments for people and deduct them from income.
Oct 15 20:51:04 <BTC-Mining>	Even so...
Oct 15 20:51:16 <BTC-Mining>	Otherwise if my tax reports are investigated, it's kind of hard to explain why you deducted a payment to a restaurant from your income.
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Oct 15 21:01:39 <dub>	./BTC-mining -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
Oct 15 21:01:50 <dub>	amirite?
Oct 15 21:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00041999 = 4.1999 BTC [-]
Oct 15 21:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31128 @ 0.00042 = 13.0738 BTC [+]
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Oct 15 21:17:47 <pigeons>	i dont have iproute2 either
Oct 15 21:20:19 <dub>	do you have linux?
Oct 15 21:21:18 <pigeons>	yes
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Oct 15 21:22:28 <dub>	the binary is called 'ip'
Oct 15 21:23:01 <pigeons>	i did apt-file search, i see its in iproute, i don't have that installed
Oct 15 21:23:14 <pigeons>	ok cool i'll check it out
Oct 15 21:23:41 <dub>	anything debian based should have it stock
Oct 15 21:23:53 <pigeons>	yeah i see it now, ip
Oct 15 21:29:28 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112443.msg1222159#msg1222159 lol
Oct 15 21:29:56 <smickles>	and dub, thanks for the recomendation of that tool :)
Oct 15 21:30:11 <dub>	it is your friend
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Oct 15 21:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00041552 = 13.7953 BTC [-]
Oct 15 21:31:33 <dub>	problem is that once in a blue moon someone will ask you to operate a less civilised unix and enragement will ensue as you fumble around without it
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Oct 15 21:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining are you kidding ? i deduct tons of restaurant bills.
Oct 15 21:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	business expense.
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Oct 15 21:48:22 <BTC-Mining>	eh
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Oct 15 21:51:29 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: learn to cook
Oct 15 21:51:33 <thestringpuller>	^^;;
Oct 15 21:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20943 @ 0.00042 = 8.7961 BTC [+]
Oct 15 21:57:15 <dub>	or just hire me
Oct 15 21:58:25 <dub>	I'd consider a corporate chef type gig in a porno empire
Oct 15 22:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	TheSeven are you kidding ? i'm a cook master.
Oct 15 22:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/lets-cook-shrimp-and-pasta/ :D
Oct 15 22:15:07 *	TheSeven cooks other stuff: http://imgur.com/a/BmA4i#0
Oct 15 22:15:45 <dub>	mmm crispy pcb
Oct 15 22:16:11 <dub>	mircea_popescu: that is an abomination
Oct 15 22:16:54 <TheSeven>	yes, nice rpi extension board :)
Oct 15 22:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4099 @ 0.00042 = 1.7216 BTC [+]
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Oct 15 22:29:05 <copumpkin>	oh man
Oct 15 22:29:09 <copumpkin>	we discover more about -PR
Oct 15 22:29:51 <thestringpuller>	copumpkin: ?
Oct 15 22:29:57 <copumpkin>	oh nothing
Oct 15 22:30:10 <copumpkin>	just stalking mircea_popescu via -PR
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Oct 15 22:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin oh ?
Oct 15 22:34:08 <copumpkin>	I know all about her!
Oct 15 22:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	liek ?
Oct 15 22:34:18 <copumpkin>	her name!
Oct 15 22:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you had a gf.
Oct 15 22:34:52 <copumpkin>	oh, I do
Oct 15 22:35:05 *	thestringpuller gets the popcorn
Oct 15 22:35:06 <copumpkin>	I was just trying to figure out if she was a real person or just your feminine alter ego
Oct 15 22:35:14 <copumpkin>	and it turns out she is real!
Oct 15 22:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	i toldja lol
Oct 15 22:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	dub why abomination ?!
Oct 15 22:38:15 <BTC-Mining>	uh, what's the problem with those shrimp pastas?
Oct 15 22:39:14 <dub>	ignore me
Oct 15 22:39:24 <dub>	I'm a food snob
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Oct 15 22:40:37 <smickles>	huh, so usagi keeps bumping the fuck out of that thread i started
Oct 15 22:41:44 <smickles>	and in one post he wrote "I'm going back to sleep and if Smickles posts this publicly I won't bother commenting here further. " which i don't understand because this post was, in fact, posted by him
Oct 15 22:42:58 <copumpkin>	oh, usagi is active on the forum?
Oct 15 22:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	very
Oct 15 22:43:09 <mircea_popescu>	dub but srsly, what's the issue ?
Oct 15 22:43:15 <smickles>	very bery
Oct 15 22:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	also, you ppl must see http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/bandaged/
Oct 15 22:43:49 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: show him when you cooked bacon that one time
Oct 15 22:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	um which one ?
Oct 15 22:44:07 <BTC-Mining>	Bitcointalk.org should have a tutorial when you register. You start in a cave and an old man says: "It's dangerous to go alone. Take this." Upon which point you receive a bag containing the following books: "Trolling for Dummies", "Living Among the Trolls", "Trollslaying 101" & "How to Troll Further"
Oct 15 22:44:08 <smickles>	didn't jcpham put it on youtube?
Oct 15 22:44:17 <dub>	mircea_popescu: I'll have to look again, but what flavor or seasoning? just the 'shrimp'?
Oct 15 22:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	heh you're not a food snob, you're an internet superficialist.
Oct 15 22:44:41 <dub>	also your roux is going to taste liks shit
Oct 15 22:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	read teh textual strings of letters!
Oct 15 22:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	cause whai!
Oct 15 22:45:15 <dub>	cause its cooked too quickly for one
Oct 15 22:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	lmao you intuit from stills how fast it cooks ?!
Oct 15 22:46:00 <kakobrekla>	maybe he checked exif
Oct 15 22:46:15 *	mircea_popescu checks exif
Oct 15 22:46:17 <smickles>	O_0
Oct 15 22:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol seems legit. exif is all fuxed up.
Oct 15 22:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19864 @ 0.00041951 = 8.3331 BTC [-]
Oct 15 22:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22636 @ 0.00041639 = 9.4254 BTC [-]
Oct 15 22:49:11 <thestringpuller>	i'm sold on Bandaged
Oct 15 22:51:51 <dub>	mircea_popescu: its not bad
Oct 15 22:52:19 <mircea_popescu>	aok
Oct 15 22:52:48 <dub>	the roux cooked in there offends me a little
Oct 15 22:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	why tho ?
Oct 15 22:53:32 <dub>	classical training
Oct 15 22:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	a. i'm beyong ecclectic.
Oct 15 22:59:39 <smickles>	be young
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Oct 15 23:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00041766 = 3.3413 BTC [+]
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Oct 15 23:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	He is currently the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space
Oct 15 23:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	this abominable bullshit has to cease.
Oct 15 23:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	i Bill Clinton mean this Barack Obama bullshit has to John Perry cease.
Oct 15 23:29:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 6 @ 0.71152992 = 4.2692 BTC [-]
Oct 15 23:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1 @ 0.46756602 BTC [+]
Oct 15 23:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 17 @ 0.45435043 = 7.724 BTC [-]
Oct 15 23:32:11 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: is the volume on options down recently?
Oct 15 23:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	prolly
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Oct 15 23:44:39 <mircea_popescu>	During the week ending October 3rd, investors pulled more than 10 billion dollars out of U.S. mutual funds.  Overall, a total of more than 100 billion dollars has been pulled out of U.S. mutual funds so far this year.
Oct 15 23:44:47 <mircea_popescu>	coming to btc ? :D
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Oct 15 23:56:26 <smickles>	jeez, evoorhees is such a scammer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118650.0
Oct 15 23:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4475 @ 0.00041639 = 1.8633 BTC [-]
Oct 15 23:57:08 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: how much money is usually pulled out of mutual funds?
Oct 15 23:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	well some years they get a net inflow obviously
Oct 15 23:57:52 <mircea_popescu>	overall they have some trillions under management, so it's not like they were crunched for half or anything
Oct 16 00:01:20 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh, so 'pulled out' was a net number?
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Oct 16 00:02:33 <mircea_popescu>	lemme get you the link
Oct 16 00:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://buzz.money.cnn.com/2012/10/11/investors-stocks-inflows-outflows/
Oct 16 00:03:31 <rg>	;;asks 15
Oct 16 00:03:33 <gribble>	There are currently 82972.165 bitcoins offered at or under 15.0 USD, worth 1112997.84801 USD in total.
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Oct 16 00:05:11 <smickles>	;;market buy 10000000000
Oct 16 00:05:13 <gribble>	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 132263.32 bitcoins, for a total of 2854946344805.6753 USD and take the price to 1337000001337.0000.
Oct 16 00:05:27 <smickles>	mwahahah!
Oct 16 00:06:20 <smickles>	;;bc,stats
Oct 16 00:06:23 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 203491 | Current Difficulty: 3054627.5269486 | Next Difficulty At Block: 203615 | Next Difficulty In: 124 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 20 hours, 13 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3062275.90012393 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.250386441812
Oct 16 00:06:38 <smickles>	.py 203491*50
Oct 16 00:06:40 <markac>	10174550
Oct 16 00:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00041755 = 13.1111 BTC [+]
Oct 16 00:22:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00042 = 2.73 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 00:35:36 <BTC-Mining>	... can someone explains me this: http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/JustAnotherSoccerFight-47959.gif
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Oct 16 00:39:27 <Diablo-D3>	BTC-Mining: its common to fake injury
Oct 16 00:40:27 <BTC-Mining>	No, no... They make those people out of glass
Oct 16 00:40:29 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Oct 16 00:40:34 <BTC-Mining>	No other explanation
Oct 16 00:40:52 <Diablo-D3>	nope, its a soccer thing
Oct 16 00:40:58 <Diablo-D3>	I hate sports, and dont watch soccer, but I know this
Oct 16 00:42:54 <BTC-Mining>	Nah, they abduct people, removes the bones and replace them with glass, then forces them to play and hit themselves.
Oct 16 00:43:24 <BTC-Mining>	Acting lessons were too expensive.
Oct 16 00:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 379 @ 0.00041639 = 0.1578 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 00:50:17 <Diablo-D3>	http://boingboing.net/2012/10/15/winners-of-the-pirate-flix-vid.html
Oct 16 01:02:48 <smickles>	ok, mircea_popescu i'm sure there's an arb op here b/t mpex options and the future on icbit.se
Oct 16 01:04:42 <smickles>	like, i just /know it/
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Oct 16 01:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2210 @ 0.00041639 = 0.9202 BTC [-]
Oct 16 01:14:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3304 @ 0.00041552 = 1.3729 BTC [-]
Oct 16 01:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11263 @ 0.00041522 = 4.6766 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 01:32:24 <dub>	Your GLBSE account has been partially processed for bitcoin
Oct 16 01:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21592 @ 0.00042 = 9.0686 BTC [+]
Oct 16 01:45:25 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it has volume now ?
Oct 16 01:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	the one time i looked (maybe a week or two ago) it was ~1btc
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Oct 16 02:05:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0004169 = 1.3758 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 02:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.0004169 = 1.8344 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 02:36:26 <mircea_popescu>	in case you were wondering : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/clear-signs-that-youre-gay-you-dont-even-know-about/
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Oct 16 02:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.0004169 = 11.2563 BTC [-]
Oct 16 02:59:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00041679 = 0.5835 BTC [-]
Oct 16 02:59:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00041586 = 3.0774 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 03:25:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00041586 = 2.0793 BTC [-]
Oct 16 03:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38127 @ 0.00041522 = 15.8311 BTC [-]
Oct 16 03:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 773 @ 0.00041519 = 0.3209 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 03:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00041787 = 3.3012 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 04:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21673 @ 0.00041519 = 8.9984 BTC [-]
Oct 16 04:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19227 @ 0.00041517 = 7.9825 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 04:28:56 <EskimoBob>	do any of you have any experience with crowdfunding? I you have, can I PM you?
Oct 16 04:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0004152 = 4.4842 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 05:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22073 @ 0.00041517 = 9.164 BTC [-]
Oct 16 05:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13483 @ 0.000415 = 5.5954 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 05:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41517 @ 0.000415 = 17.2296 BTC [-]
Oct 16 05:33:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1436 @ 0.00041409 = 0.5946 BTC [-]
Oct 16 05:58:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32164 @ 0.00041409 = 13.3188 BTC [-]
Oct 16 05:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3636 @ 0.00041402 = 1.5054 BTC [-]
Oct 16 06:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090N] 5 @ 0.15781417 = 0.7891 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 06:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49700 @ 0.00041402 = 20.5768 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 06:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1764 @ 0.00041402 = 0.7303 BTC [-]
Oct 16 06:51:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36 @ 0.00041382 = 0.0149 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 07:16:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53164 @ 0.00041382 = 22.0003 BTC [-]
Oct 16 07:16:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6294 @ 0.00041377 = 2.6043 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 07:38:15 <jurov>	lol, i got B- rating "probably won't run away with your coins"
Oct 16 07:38:26 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.0
Oct 16 07:42:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00041377 = 8.9788 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 07:56:27 <DeaDTerra>	Upvote :D http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/11kdse/buy_spotify_codes_with_bitcoins/
Oct 16 08:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0004152 = 1.3702 BTC [+]
Oct 16 08:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29053 @ 0.00041631 = 12.0951 BTC [+]
Oct 16 08:09:59 <EskimoBob>	Looking for a grammar nazi, who is willing to take a look at this contract draft
Oct 16 08:11:06 <EskimoBob>	any ideas what happened to brendio?
Oct 16 08:11:24 <EskimoBob>	BitVPS guy
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Oct 16 08:23:20 <jurov>	smicklez is keen to contracts
Oct 16 08:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	MrTiggr Cannot GET /images/socnet/bitcoin-assets/bitcoin-assets-current.png
Oct 16 08:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha the "colored coins" stupidity is actually meni rosenfeld's idea ?
Oct 16 08:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	why am i not surprised it's stupid ?
Oct 16 08:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5090 @ 0.00041751 = 2.1251 BTC [+]
Oct 16 08:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9910 @ 0.00041772 = 4.1396 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 08:48:30 <MrTiggr>	mircea_popescu: i moved it, sorry
Oct 16 08:48:32 <MrTiggr>	http://www.worldzeitgeist.org/images/socnet/bitcoin-assets/bitcoin-assets-current.png
Oct 16 08:48:34 <MrTiggr>	no :443
Oct 16 08:48:51 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Oct 16 08:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you need to update the link :p
Oct 16 08:49:22 <MrTiggr>	im about to update the algorithm too
Oct 16 08:49:36 <MrTiggr>	soon, anyone who says the word scammer will get redder and redder
Oct 16 08:49:38 <MrTiggr>	:D
Oct 16 08:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol that helps ?!
Oct 16 08:50:18 <MrTiggr>	well ..ill make it better over time
Oct 16 08:50:19 <MrTiggr>	but yeh it does
Oct 16 08:50:29 <MrTiggr>	a qwik look will tell where the scammer-talk is going on
Oct 16 08:50:39 <MrTiggr>	which is what i use it for mostly
Oct 16 08:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	i c
Oct 16 08:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118351.0 this is pretty crazy stuff
Oct 16 08:53:01 <MrTiggr>	"I don't know how much GLBSE lost that day but I wouldn't be surprised if bad coding resulting in heavy losses was one of the reasons nefario wasn't making much money from the business."
Oct 16 08:53:09 <MrTiggr>	^^ ive heard a few comments like that
Oct 16 08:55:46 <mircea_popescu>	i know they were carrying a buncha debt on the books since forever
Oct 16 08:56:01 <MrTiggr>	also, i showed all you guys http://www.iseecoins.org/ didnt i, mircea_popescu ?
Oct 16 08:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Oct 16 08:56:24 <MrTiggr>	k
Oct 16 08:56:48 <MrTiggr>	expect new coolness soon too :D mwahahaha .. i think u'll like it
Oct 16 08:57:27 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla
Oct 16 08:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	"I don't have to dispute or even answer you, because you're a whacked out loser." hey smickles, you suck nao.
Oct 16 08:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	sorry.
Oct 16 08:58:37 *	kakobrekla has changed the topic to: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com
Oct 16 08:58:51 *	kakobrekla removes channel operator status from kakobrekla
Oct 16 08:58:51 <MrTiggr>	:D thanks kakobrekla
Oct 16 08:59:01 <kakobrekla>	yw
Oct 16 08:59:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1847 @ 0.00041716 = 0.7705 BTC [-]
Oct 16 08:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00041563 = 1.4547 BTC [-]
Oct 16 09:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114961.0 o hey, pirate paid on the 12 ?!
Oct 16 09:01:48 <kakobrekla>	any esxi experts here
Oct 16 09:02:11 <mircea_popescu>	rg lol
Oct 16 09:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	lmao so I get btctalk digests from my pr girl. this stuff is almost as funny as the forum itself. for instance :
Oct 16 09:04:37 <mircea_popescu>	no idea what's going on, i think last poster may be calling someone a turdlord or something but i cant actually tell. possible drugs.
Oct 16 09:05:38 <kakobrekla>	lol
Oct 16 09:05:49 <MrTiggr>	'turdlord" ROFL
Oct 16 09:05:53 <kakobrekla>	you are badmothing drugs.
Oct 16 09:06:04 <mircea_popescu>	badmothballing
Oct 16 09:06:04 <kakobrekla>	mouthing*
Oct 16 09:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	drugz
Oct 16 09:06:10 <dub>	yeah
Oct 16 09:06:13 <dub>	leave drugs alone
Oct 16 09:06:21 <kakobrekla>	;>
Oct 16 09:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	drugs killed my cat.
Oct 16 09:06:33 <dub>	rampant inbreeding is the culprit
Oct 16 09:06:38 <MrTiggr>	* MrTiggr is now know as Turdlord  ... thats a cool nichk :D
Oct 16 09:06:43 <dub>	for forums not your cat
Oct 16 09:06:49 <mircea_popescu>	MrTiggr sounds a little gay tho
Oct 16 09:06:52 <MrTiggr>	lol
Oct 16 09:06:56 <MrTiggr>	not hte good gay either
Oct 16 09:07:00 <mircea_popescu>	nope, not rly.
Oct 16 09:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	course seeing how with old age i tend to do chicks in the ass more than in the cunt, i guess i could call my dick turdlord.
Oct 16 09:07:40 <mircea_popescu>	i never had a name for it before anyway, always kinda felt left out.
Oct 16 09:07:47 <MrTiggr>	ctl-alt-del
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Oct 16 09:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00041455 = 13.6387 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 09:41:39 <EskimoBob>	usagi is gone completely mad...LOL
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Oct 16 09:46:40 <DeaDTerra>	I am happy to report that I have received the BTC I had at GLBSE
Oct 16 09:48:10 <EskimoBob>	DeaDTerra: good for you
Oct 16 09:50:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00041455 = 2.3629 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 09:51:50 <dub>	I got email saying I had been paid out but recieved no btc
Oct 16 09:53:00 <kakobrekla>	:>
Oct 16 09:53:40 <DeaDTerra>	Yep :)
Oct 16 09:56:11 <EskimoBob>	interesting. I haven't got any e-mails or coin
Oct 16 09:56:39 <EskimoBob>	Looks like this is a really slow process. Question is: why so slow
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Oct 16 10:15:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00041392 = 3.4769 BTC [-]
Oct 16 10:15:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00041377 = 0.6207 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 10:32:30 <EskimoBob>	I posted a updated contract and i think the issue of ART-OTA being a security is resolved.
Oct 16 10:33:19 <EskimoBob>	Constructive comments are welcome
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Oct 16 10:40:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00041377 = 2.0275 BTC [-]
Oct 16 10:41:00 <darkee>	dub: had the same thing yesterday evening but got my coins in the course of the night :)
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Oct 16 10:57:02 <pigeons>	should have asked here
Oct 16 10:57:04 <pigeons>	did any glbse asset issuers receive shareholder information yet?
Oct 16 10:58:04 <rdponticelli>	pigeons: I don't think so
Oct 16 10:58:39 <rdponticelli>	I haven't, at least, and I don't know of anybody who has
Oct 16 11:02:22 <dub>	I've been at work for 20 hours
Oct 16 11:04:46 <dub>	more caffine at this point could be fatal
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Oct 16 11:05:25 <pigeons>	or fun
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Oct 16 11:05:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00041377 = 0.0414 BTC [-]
Oct 16 11:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5206 @ 0.00041377 = 2.1541 BTC [-]
Oct 16 11:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00041344 = 14.0983 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 11:21:46 <usagi>	i don't come on irc much anymore because i am sick, but i will be back later.
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Oct 16 11:22:18 <EskimoBob>	 pleas no!
Oct 16 11:23:01 <pigeons>	maybe the doctor will put shim back on shis medicine
Oct 16 11:23:13 <EskimoBob>	and yes usagi, you are sick ... LOL
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Oct 16 11:31:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1194 @ 0.00041316 = 0.4933 BTC [-]
Oct 16 11:31:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5853 @ 0.00041455 = 2.4264 BTC [+]
Oct 16 11:31:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15490 @ 0.00041772 = 6.4705 BTC [+]
Oct 16 11:31:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10363 @ 0.00041787 = 4.3304 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 11:57:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41400 @ 0.00041275 = 17.0879 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 12:11:50 <thestringpuller>	http://bitcoinmagazine.net/interview-with-glbses-nefario/
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Oct 16 12:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6037 @ 0.00041787 = 2.5227 BTC [+]
Oct 16 12:23:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8463 @ 0.00041843 = 3.5412 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 12:33:39 <drekk>	mircea_popescu, did u actually send 3btc to 001sonkit on the forum?
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Oct 16 12:42:16 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: the last comment is spot on
Oct 16 12:45:49 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: so everyone is lying?
Oct 16 12:46:00 <thestringpuller>	it's like an episode of law and order
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Oct 16 12:48:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16704 @ 0.00041275 = 6.8946 BTC [-]
Oct 16 12:48:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11933 @ 0.00041274 = 4.9252 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 12:56:08 <EskimoBob>	if FSA says it not money, then wtf is nefario yapping about? Has he shown any documents taht prove he ever had ANY communications with any gov agency?
Oct 16 12:57:15 <gigavps>	EskimoBob he has not
Oct 16 12:57:55 <jcpham>	i read as his interview as this: if i never log in to glbse again, I get nothing
Oct 16 12:57:59 <jcpham>	I have yet to log in
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Oct 16 13:17:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0004129 = 2.8903 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 13:26:54 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: It is so easy to ask for the documents from gov. agency. Untill I see one, I think it's all one big BS
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Oct 16 13:27:46 <EskimoBob>	I am sure we will find out soon, what the real reason was because of the shit slinging between tyhemos etc
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Oct 16 13:30:50 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob
Oct 16 13:30:57 <thestringpuller>	you around
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Oct 16 13:42:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00041372 = 0.7861 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 14:06:23 <thestringpuller>	PsychoticBoy: yo
Oct 16 14:08:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00041372 = 3.1443 BTC [+]
Oct 16 14:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00041617 = 9.5719 BTC [+]
Oct 16 14:09:23 <EskimoBob>	yes I am
Oct 16 14:09:57 <pigeons>	;rate EskimoBob -10 scammer isn't even a real eskimo
Oct 16 14:10:09 <PsychoticBoy>	yo
Oct 16 14:10:23 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: wtf :)
Oct 16 14:10:48 <pigeons>	pics with igloo on your head
Oct 16 14:10:58 <EskimoBob>	;rate usagi -100 is not even a real girl
Oct 16 14:11:06 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Oct 16 14:11:34 <PsychoticBoy>	as much of a G.I.R.L. as I am (Guy In Real Life)
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Oct 16 14:11:55 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: picture of you flying and holding a bitcoin betwwen you peek
Oct 16 14:12:41 <PsychoticBoy>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dexQhvczVeM
Oct 16 14:12:53 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: I actually rated you +2 after the trade
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Oct 16 14:13:12 <EskimoBob>	what about meeeee....
Oct 16 14:13:18 *	EskimoBob wipes of the tears
Oct 16 14:13:25 <pigeons>	i don't negotiate with terrorists
Oct 16 14:13:55 <EskimoBob>	police? where?
Oct 16 14:14:22 <pigeons>	so tell us what this "art equipment" is?
Oct 16 14:21:09 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: see PM
Oct 16 14:21:40 <EskimoBob>	"thestringpuller | you around" - yes I am. wzz up?
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Oct 16 14:23:55 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: happy with the answer?
Oct 16 14:24:57 <pigeons>	yes
Oct 16 14:25:09 <pigeons>	i was half pickin on you and also genuinely curious
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Oct 16 14:29:47 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: sorry was getting ready for work
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Oct 16 14:30:01 <thestringpuller>	I feel strange being a btc advocate and working for a credit card processor during the day
Oct 16 14:30:22 <thestringpuller>	my plan is to steal all their IP and apply it to BTC
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Oct 16 14:30:46 <EskimoBob>	:)
Oct 16 14:30:49 <EskimoBob>	good idea
Oct 16 14:31:12 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.romneytaxplan.com/
Oct 16 14:31:37 <EskimoBob>	what happened to Romeny tax return fiasco?
Oct 16 14:31:40 <thestringpuller>	as I told smickles I'm working on a (maybe open source) solution for bitinstants debit card
Oct 16 14:32:20 <BTC-Mining>	...
Oct 16 14:32:27 <vampireb_>	well how would do an opensource?
Oct 16 14:32:34 <vampireb_>	you need a bank to process transactions
Oct 16 14:32:45 <BTC-Mining>	Don't get caught thestringpuller =P
Oct 16 14:32:59 <EskimoBob>	not really vampireb_
Oct 16 14:33:12 <vampireb_>	not really?
Oct 16 14:33:22 <vampireb_>	as far as i recall you do
Oct 16 14:33:22 <EskimoBob>	card reader can be plugged to a pc or laptop and client software
Oct 16 14:33:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00041843 = 0.3347 BTC [+]
Oct 16 14:33:38 <EskimoBob>	I use card reader every day
Oct 16 14:33:41 <vampireb_>	to do any kind of transactions with cards you need to connect to visa network
Oct 16 14:33:44 <EskimoBob>	on my PC
Oct 16 14:33:51 <vampireb_>	who cares about card readers.
Oct 16 14:33:54 <rg>	or a third party
Oct 16 14:33:56 <rg>	that connects to visa
Oct 16 14:33:58 <rg>	which is more likely
Oct 16 14:34:10 <rg>	direct connections to visa have volume limits
Oct 16 14:34:20 <rg>	*minimum volume limits
Oct 16 14:34:27 <vampireb_>	of course. 3rd party would be a bank
Oct 16 14:34:30 <vampireb_>	usually
Oct 16 14:34:31 <rg>	no
Oct 16 14:34:32 <rg>	not always
Oct 16 14:34:38 <rg>	there are companies who sell card readers
Oct 16 14:34:44 <rg>	card reader -> company -> visa
Oct 16 14:34:49 <rg>	well
Oct 16 14:34:52 <vampireb_>	i have done my share of micro transafvtions and credit processing
Oct 16 14:34:53 <rg>	card reader -> company -> bank > visa
Oct 16 14:34:58 <rg>	me too
Oct 16 14:35:00 <vampireb_>	10 years ago, still applies
Oct 16 14:35:01 <EskimoBob>	if you have a card reader and a client, that can connect to blockchain?
Oct 16 14:35:03 <rg>	i used to manage a convenience store
Oct 16 14:35:08 <rg>	5 years ago, still semi applies
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Oct 16 14:35:16 <rg>	and we used to fight with credit all the time
Oct 16 14:35:32 <rg>	i was the one who discovered we were losing $100/mo
Oct 16 14:35:38 <rg>	we had a flat fee with AMEX
Oct 16 14:35:45 <rg>	so fi ONE person used amex to buy a $5 thing
Oct 16 14:35:47 <rg>	we'd get charged $100
Oct 16 14:35:53 <EskimoBob>	fuck
Oct 16 14:35:59 <vampireb_>	amex are very expesnive to use
Oct 16 14:36:05 <rg>	amex are great
Oct 16 14:36:08 <rg>	you just need the volume
Oct 16 14:36:19 <rg>	1 amex transaction a month hardly justified the fee
Oct 16 14:36:19 <vampireb_>	ok used to be.. i dont recall rates, but it was about 3% while visa/mc was like 1.5%
Oct 16 14:36:31 <rg>	rates have all fluxed
Oct 16 14:37:01 <rg>	we only accepted visa/mc
Oct 16 14:37:05 <rg>	they had the best rates
Oct 16 14:37:18 <vampireb_>	well to issue a debit card, you need to have a help from a bank.
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Oct 16 14:37:28 <thestringpuller>	vampireb_: not necessarily
Oct 16 14:37:41 <vampireb_>	ok how would go then?
Oct 16 14:37:47 <rg>	third party company
Oct 16 14:37:48 <rg>	id assume
Oct 16 14:37:48 <thestringpuller>	vampireb_: you can have reloadable cards issued to your business but it requires a KYC check
Oct 16 14:37:57 <rg>	KYC is fairly easy
Oct 16 14:38:00 <rg>	but not easy to do online
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Oct 16 14:38:12 <thestringpuller>	vampireb_: but in terms of an OSS solution you would just use exsiting accounts
Oct 16 14:38:13 <rg>	if you were doing business IRL
Oct 16 14:38:14 <vampireb_>	still requires a bank
Oct 16 14:38:15 <rg>	itd be a lot easier
Oct 16 14:38:40 <thestringpuller>	i have an amex prepaid card I liquidate btc to for buying lunch
Oct 16 14:38:55 <thestringpuller>	it's not seamless yet but with a few more tweaks it will be
Oct 16 14:39:04 <vampireb_>	reverse charge?
Oct 16 14:39:19 <thestringpuller>	on the merchant end or my end?
Oct 16 14:40:15 <vampireb_>	well i am recalling from memory that someone was funding cards this way
Oct 16 14:41:29 <rg>	[14:38] <thestringpuller> i have an amex prepaid card I liquidate btc to for buying lunch
Oct 16 14:41:29 <rg>	ehe
Oct 16 14:41:32 <rg>	so does MBS!
Oct 16 14:41:37 <thestringpuller>	MBS?
Oct 16 14:41:40 <rg>	yeah
Oct 16 14:41:43 <rg>	hes the gyu who buys me food online
Oct 16 14:41:44 <rg>	for btc
Oct 16 14:41:47 <thestringpuller>	hahaha
Oct 16 14:41:52 <rg>	i think nearly 80% of his cc transactions are me
Oct 16 14:41:56 <thestringpuller>	amex prepaid is like free
Oct 16 14:42:00 <thestringpuller>	no fees at all
Oct 16 14:42:26 <thestringpuller>	my division in TSYS (the cc processor I work for) processors rush card (the prepaid card by russell simmons for you def jam fans) and they have so many fees
Oct 16 14:42:30 <thestringpuller>	amex prepaid is a steal
Oct 16 14:43:44 <thestringpuller>	vampireb_: what i'm getting at is it takes a while to make the steps to liquidate into an account seamless, I want to make a solution anyone who wants to take the effort can set up on their own servers and spend cash with a prepaid card/debit card of their choosing
Oct 16 14:45:17 <vampireb_>	i am not sure what "liquidate" means, still you would need a 3rd party to process the transactions. which will be out of reach for a lot of ppl.
Oct 16 14:45:35 <thestringpuller>	process which transactions? converting from exchange->fiat?
Oct 16 14:46:07 <vampireb_>	fiat after exhcange -> card
Oct 16 14:46:32 <thestringpuller>	for prepaid cards that's as easy as having a bank account
Oct 16 14:46:41 <thestringpuller>	so I don't quite understand your question
Oct 16 14:47:51 <vampireb_>	so BTC -> exchange -> user's bank account -> card ?
Oct 16 14:48:05 <thestringpuller>	yea traditional steps
Oct 16 14:48:33 <thestringpuller>	except in an automated batch processing world, each one of those "steps" is continuously happening each night to make it look like your doing btc -> card
Oct 16 14:49:49 <vampireb_>	i'd prefer of course just the card is getting funded from BTC on demand :-)
Oct 16 14:50:26 <thestringpuller>	you have to go through an exchange though at some point to resupply your fiat on the card
Oct 16 14:50:45 <thestringpuller>	if you automate that process then it seems like it's on demand
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Oct 16 14:51:57 <thestringpuller>	even credit cards aren't processed on demand, they are only auth'ed on demand, VISA/MasterCard sends a signal directly to the processor, the processor checks the available balances of the accounts and sends back an auth response accepted/declined. only at night are the accounts truly reconciled. for btc why would it be any different?
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Oct 16 14:52:54 <thestringpuller>	(eCommerce auth is some of the most optimized software out there)
Oct 16 14:54:27 <vampireb_>	that what I meant, only the required amount of BTC should be exchanged or locked during the auth
Oct 16 14:55:00 <thestringpuller>	you can make it perceived that way if you have pools in a warchest of sorts
Oct 16 14:55:19 <thestringpuller>	you have to hedge your holdings in order to overcome exchange fees so it's not traditional
Oct 16 14:55:44 <thestringpuller>	and you have*
Oct 16 14:55:57 <thestringpuller>	cause exchange rates are much higher than what visa charges processors
Oct 16 14:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00041843 = 11.6324 BTC [+]
Oct 16 15:00:29 <MadalyInMay>	You could also go www.btcpak.com -> Mp code -> Amex prepaid or Greendot
Oct 16 15:00:40 <MadalyInMay>	for a good fee chunk
Oct 16 15:21:26 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> sorry. | I forgive you ;)
Oct 16 15:24:03 <smickles>	thestringpuller: sounds like your idea is gaining some traction, eh?
Oct 16 15:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1467 @ 0.00041843 = 0.6138 BTC [+]
Oct 16 15:24:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19833 @ 0.00041858 = 8.3017 BTC [+]
Oct 16 15:26:41 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> smickles it has volume now ? | volume 232780 usd (which probably translates into 23278 contracts traded) open interest 7114
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Oct 16 15:49:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00041805 = 2.2157 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 16:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1130 @ 0.000417 = 0.4712 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 16:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11797 @ 0.00041858 = 4.938 BTC [+]
Oct 16 16:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15914 @ 0.0004189 = 6.6664 BTC [+]
Oct 16 16:41:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11589 @ 0.00041913 = 4.8573 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 17:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28385 @ 0.0004172 = 11.8422 BTC [-]
Oct 16 17:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00041606 = 2.2259 BTC [-]
Oct 16 17:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10759 @ 0.00041576 = 4.4732 BTC [-]
Oct 16 17:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00041466 = 1.0988 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 17:32:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25478 @ 0.0004151 = 10.5759 BTC [+]
Oct 16 17:32:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12446 @ 0.00041466 = 5.1609 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 17:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	drekk sorry ?
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Oct 16 17:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i have my doubts, seeing that http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/17308.html
Oct 16 17:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	that was the 2nd this month.
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Oct 16 17:57:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00041778 = 13.745 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 18:02:35 <grubles>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 16 18:02:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00300231 / 0.0034 (2040952 shares, 6,127.58 BTC)
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Oct 16 18:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00200001 = 2 BTC [-]
Oct 16 18:08:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC [-]
Oct 16 18:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00181053 = 0.1811 BTC [-]
Oct 16 18:08:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9474 @ 0.00181052 = 17.1529 BTC [-]
Oct 16 18:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00181051 = 0.1811 BTC [-]
Oct 16 18:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0018105 = 5.4315 BTC [-]
Oct 16 18:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 37 @ 0.00180001 = 0.0666 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 18:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	ukyo lol
Oct 16 18:33:54 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, the gold and oil futures have near nil volume, but I was talking about the usd future
Oct 16 18:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Oct 16 18:34:07 <Ukto>	?
Oct 16 18:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15887 @ 0.00041466 = 6.5877 BTC [-]
Oct 16 18:34:37 <smickles>	it was trading at about 10 earlier
Oct 16 18:35:09 <smickles>	i was thinking there was  a play like long the future, buy a put
Oct 16 18:35:17 <mircea_popescu>	well im too lazy to dig up whatever acct details i made up whenever.
Oct 16 18:35:37 <mircea_popescu>	who even came up with this idea of "have to log in"
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Oct 16 18:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto it was just funny typo is all
Oct 16 18:36:09 <mircea_popescu>	smickles wait, trading at 10 ?! on what volume ?
Oct 16 18:36:42 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: at such volume that i picked up about 200 below 11.4
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Oct 16 18:37:04 <smickles>	that supposedly represents 2000 usd
Oct 16 18:37:11 <smickles>	in magic theymos land
Oct 16 18:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	what's theymos to do with anything !?
Oct 16 18:37:30 <smickles>	he's a partner of icbit
Oct 16 18:37:36 <smickles>	has his fingers in everything
Oct 16 18:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	o lol
Oct 16 18:37:45 <mircea_popescu>	THAT's why he was talking completely unwarranted shit about mpex ?
Oct 16 18:37:55 <smickles>	could be
Oct 16 18:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	fuckwit. what's he waiting for, me to give him free shares ?
Oct 16 18:38:43 <smickles>	"let's find an exchange that isn't mpex or glbse" (meanwhile he part owns what is likely the runner up of those two)
Oct 16 18:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. i was gonna say it's somewhat unlikely they actually have the means to pay if the price moves significantly, but maybe some btcs are worth the next generation of btctalk drama
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Oct 16 18:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	smickles no, it was "o, this thing i made SUCKS and it was badly managed and it's pure bulshit and a scam heaven"
Oct 16 18:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	"we must find something other than that and this other thing which works"
Oct 16 18:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	because...
Oct 16 18:39:41 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it's person to person contract sales with forced margin calls if the shit hits the fan, sound familiar?
Oct 16 18:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	right-o.
Oct 16 18:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	something they don't have the werewithal to pull off.
Oct 16 18:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i should hope he has learned his lesson on the forum.
Oct 16 18:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	i guess if not he'll have plenty more opportunities in the future anyway.
Oct 16 18:41:12 <smickles>	i understand he's younger than me, so he should have plenty of future
Oct 16 18:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i hought icbit is deepbit's.
Oct 16 18:42:48 <smickles>	as far as i knew, deepbit and theymos were interchangable
Oct 16 18:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4937/are-there-any-active-bitcoin-leveraged-trading-platforms-available/4938#4938
Oct 16 18:43:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol looky, rosenfeld too
Oct 16 18:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	so this is going to be the next nexus of bitidiocy then ?
Oct 16 18:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00041522 = 18.6849 BTC [+]
Oct 16 18:45:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21844 @ 0.00041778 = 9.126 BTC [+]
Oct 16 18:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3897 @ 0.00041913 = 1.6333 BTC [+]
Oct 16 18:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20675 @ 0.00041926 = 8.6682 BTC [+]
Oct 16 18:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108584 @ 0.00042 = 45.6053 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 18:47:27 <smickles>	lol, mircea_popescu, what's up with your /c crowd? they have a huge naruto cosplay thread capped off a pic of a couple dozen slave leias
Oct 16 18:47:38 <smickles>	!=
Oct 16 18:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea lol
Oct 16 18:49:08 *	jurov impromptu spammed the answer
Oct 16 18:49:46 <thestringpuller>	a btc entrepreneur working for a credit card processor. irony...
Oct 16 18:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	who to the what now jurov ?!
Oct 16 18:50:12 <jurov>	that rosenfeld question
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Oct 16 18:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	o
Oct 16 18:51:25 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you're like the bitcoin illuminati
Oct 16 18:51:35 <mircea_popescu>	why me !?
Oct 16 18:51:50 <thestringpuller>	cause you are enigmatic
Oct 16 18:52:11 <thestringpuller>	your whole organization is enigmatic
Oct 16 18:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	how am i enigmatic ffs. i'm like... the only person in btc using their name, my mug is all over my blog
Oct 16 18:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	i'm about as enigmatic as captain fried chicken restaurant, what's his name
Oct 16 18:52:46 <thestringpuller>	colonel sanders?
Oct 16 18:52:59 <jurov>	i think you're enigmatic for americans.. completely different culture
Oct 16 18:53:10 <mircea_popescu>	ya that.
Oct 16 18:53:18 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you know i lived there ?
Oct 16 18:53:27 <thestringpuller>	america sucks
Oct 16 18:53:39 <thestringpuller>	i can see why you left
Oct 16 18:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	nowadays. it was merely started to suck back in the early prev decade
Oct 16 18:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	and my mysterious organisation kept me well insulated from most of it anyway.
Oct 16 18:54:10 <thestringpuller>	see illuminati material
Oct 16 18:54:22 <jurov>	i know you lived there, but seems you did not adapt very much
Oct 16 18:54:30 <thestringpuller>	not quite likr dead pirate roberts
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Oct 16 18:55:00 <thestringpuller>	state financed capitalism is a terrible system
Oct 16 18:55:08 <mircea_popescu>	inasmuch as it's simply socialism lol
Oct 16 18:55:32 <thestringpuller>	just with a different name
Oct 16 18:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Oct 16 18:56:33 <thestringpuller>	so youve been using the internet a long time mircea_popescu
Oct 16 18:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Oct 16 18:56:46 <thestringpuller>	you remind me of my hacking mentor
Oct 16 18:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	haha ty.
Oct 16 18:57:06 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu used the internet when it was called compuserve
Oct 16 18:57:07 <thestringpuller>	telling stories of days of usenet past, when bbs ruled the modems
Oct 16 18:57:26 <mod6>	lol compuserve
Oct 16 18:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	im not bbs-old.
Oct 16 18:57:50 <thestringpuller>	is bitcoin really the last bastion against the eternal september?
Oct 16 18:57:50 <mircea_popescu>	but i did use it at a time when naked girls made out of letters counted as porn
Oct 16 18:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller in parts, for sure.
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Oct 16 18:58:33 <thestringpuller>	i know some linux usegroups are still intelligent
Oct 16 18:58:50 <thestringpuller>	but it is sad to see ignorance running rampant like a disease
Oct 16 18:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is made up roughly by thirds : one third is very intelligent but softspoken and a little aspie tech people ; one third is unabashed scammers ; one third is purest form of idiot
Oct 16 18:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	a year ago the first was more like 40-50%.
Oct 16 18:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	two years ago it was over 2/3
Oct 16 19:00:39 <thestringpuller>	the first 1/3 will end up controlling the bitcoin world when the other 2/3 annihilate each other
Oct 16 19:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Oct 16 19:01:43 <smickles>	i see thestringpuller is an optimist
Oct 16 19:02:21 <mircea_popescu>	finance people will control the bitcoin world. they are moving in but very slowly (mostly because they have trouble distinguishing A and C, and despise B)
Oct 16 19:04:34 <smickles>	bah imsaguy2 should get BAK so that he can sign the s²cm report
Oct 16 19:04:56 *	smickles stares intently in the general direction he believe imsaguy2 is
Oct 16 19:05:03 <smickles>	*is in
Oct 16 19:05:04 <mircea_popescu>	believes
Oct 16 19:05:22 <smickles>	ah, i haz typing skilz
Oct 16 19:06:09 <smickles>	this is the problem, the way my desk faces, he is behind me
Oct 16 19:06:22 <smickles>	he basically sneaks around my back, day and night
Oct 16 19:06:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 16 19:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	you two live together ?!
Oct 16 19:07:21 <smickles>	well, in the sense that we live on the same land mass
Oct 16 19:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Oct 16 19:07:35 <smickles>	i think he's about 2000 miles away
Oct 16 19:08:04 *	smickles feels like somehting just flew over his hesd
Oct 16 19:08:26 <thestringpuller>	i am kind of an optimist
Oct 16 19:08:29 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 16 19:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	actually, this could be a kickass research paper. all the social groups meeting around btc have serious trouble distinguishing the others.
Oct 16 19:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	scammers don't well distinguish the tech from the idiots
Oct 16 19:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	tech people don't well distinguish the finance ppl from the scammers
Oct 16 19:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	idiots distinguish pretty much nobody
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Oct 16 19:10:22 <mircea_popescu>	but famously not finance and scammer types
Oct 16 19:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26887 @ 0.00042 = 11.2925 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:11:11 <thestringpuller>	some scams are very elaborate
Oct 16 19:11:15 <thestringpuller>	like bfl
Oct 16 19:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	that's possibly a scam, yet.
Oct 16 19:12:14 <thestringpuller>	it's run by a felon. no good can come of it
Oct 16 19:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	yea that part is problematic.
Oct 16 19:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2706298 @ 0.00042 = 1136.6452 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28618 @ 0.00042015 = 12.0239 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8528 @ 0.00042042 = 3.5853 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00042061 = 1.388 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40700 @ 0.00042076 = 17.1249 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00042085 = 1.7676 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 904 @ 0.00042122 = 0.3808 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00042144 = 11.9268 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.0004218 = 6.3692 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00042206 = 4.6427 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33300 @ 0.00042244 = 14.0673 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00042267 = 11.4121 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58900 @ 0.00042268 = 24.8959 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00042356 = 2.2872 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28452 @ 0.00042375 = 12.0565 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 19:13:06 <thestringpuller>	whoa
Oct 16 19:13:11 <thestringpuller>	huge buy
Oct 16 19:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	like 3mn
Oct 16 19:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	ppl've been lapping it up past few days
Oct 16 19:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 16 19:16:00 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.80902, Best ask: 11.8199, Bid-ask spread: 0.01088, Last trade: 11.82, 24 hour volume: 41258, 24 hour low: 11.5, 24 hour high: 11.99
Oct 16 19:19:20 <BTC-Mining>	Nah, probably just a single market maker
Oct 16 19:20:04 <BTC-Mining>	Moving prices around to profit extra
Oct 16 19:21:44 <jurov>	just got an idea, should go make mtgoxlive-style interface for mpex
Oct 16 19:21:53 <thestringpuller>	do it
Oct 16 19:22:00 <jurov>	so that there will be lively wall-watching discussions
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Oct 16 19:22:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8848 @ 0.00042375 = 3.7493 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43900 @ 0.00042388 = 18.6083 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2252 @ 0.00042393 = 0.9547 BTC [+]
Oct 16 19:23:02 <mircea_popescu>	might be kinda cool
Oct 16 19:23:21 <jcpham>	if it were on fire
Oct 16 19:25:00 <jurov>	yea, and with lemmings
Oct 16 19:27:24 <jurov>	but i suck at js... will prolly hire someone
Oct 16 19:28:34 <thestringpuller>	use C
Oct 16 19:28:42 <thestringpuller>	real men write C
Oct 16 19:29:26 <thestringpuller>	derefernce all the pointers
Oct 16 19:29:37 <thestringpuller>	dereference*
Oct 16 19:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	real men dereference the pointers in the order they created them.
Oct 16 19:30:37 <thestringpuller>	real mean use strict aliasing
Oct 16 19:31:37 <thestringpuller>	i hate ivy
Oct 16 19:31:47 <thestringpuller>	i hate java
Oct 16 19:31:50 <thestringpuller>	whyyyy
Oct 16 19:34:29 <jurov>	mircea, when thinking about the three groups of bitcoiners, do you realize MPOE-PR repulses not just the idiots, but also many aspies as well?
Oct 16 19:35:03 <jurov>	i have seen jgarzik himself complaining about her
Oct 16 19:36:17 <smickles>	anyone here interested in the s²cm financial report?
Oct 16 19:36:18 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1277243#msg1277243
Oct 16 19:37:01 <thestringpuller>	jeff garzik the kernel dev?
Oct 16 19:37:06 <thestringpuller>	that guy is badass
Oct 16 19:37:26 <jurov>	yes. he was prolly referring to this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118679.msg1276480#msg1276480
Oct 16 19:39:25 <jurov>	and sorry smickles, i pulled out of SS and glbse as whole day before it was closed
Oct 16 19:40:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yes.
Oct 16 19:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol "his answers"
Oct 16 19:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	i'm sure the tech people will at some point get over their inertia, do their research etc.
Oct 16 19:43:03 <thestringpuller>	looks like jeff didn't like mpoe-pr's "trolling" on the forums
Oct 16 19:45:22 <smickles>	jurov: heh, no need to be sorry. There's a lot of uncertanty out there
Oct 16 19:46:59 <jurov>	the response to coinbr announcement was very poor so far. and i feel mpoe-pr isn't exactly helping.
Oct 16 19:47:27 <jurov>	in "poor" i don't mean comments but actual new accounts
Oct 16 19:47:56 <thestringpuller>	you may have to market
Oct 16 19:48:11 <mircea_popescu>	jurov have you done advertising or anything ?
Oct 16 19:48:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00041834 = 19.8293 BTC [-]
Oct 16 19:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	i recall kakobrekla complaining about poor smpake uptake a few weeks ago too, for that matter. i doubt it has anything to do with the girl.
Oct 16 19:49:09 <thestringpuller>	see mircea_popescu "the girl"
Oct 16 19:49:15 <thestringpuller>	engimatic organization
Oct 16 19:49:21 <thestringpuller>	enigmatic*
Oct 16 19:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe-pr!
Oct 16 19:49:44 <thestringpuller>	aka 'the girl'
Oct 16 19:49:52 <jurov>	any ideas where it's good to market? at first i have tried to find any doscussions about mpex
Oct 16 19:49:53 <thestringpuller>	like a codename
Oct 16 19:49:58 <jurov>	*discussions
Oct 16 19:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	jurov well i can tell you forum advertising has a horrible roi
Oct 16 19:50:17 <thestringpuller>	reddit
Oct 16 19:50:22 <smickles>	try reddi... oh
Oct 16 19:50:23 <jurov>	but it turned out there isn't anything much outside btctalk
Oct 16 19:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	it's possible a good idea to snipe people who complain about how "difficult" or w./e mpex is,
Oct 16 19:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	but in my experience their complaints are fake
Oct 16 19:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	(as in, excuses as to why they either don't have the money or the interest to trade, not causes)
Oct 16 19:51:06 <mircea_popescu>	im not doing anything on reddit, so that might be a good spot.
Oct 16 19:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	tho iirc it's mostly btc-hostile (apart from btc people trying to keep a foothold)
Oct 16 19:51:21 <jurov>	no, i never planned that. just add it to relevant topics
Oct 16 19:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : you might try SA forums.
Oct 16 19:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3413928&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=166 << there's a good thread :D
Oct 16 19:52:04 <pigeons>	or EVE Online
Oct 16 19:52:28 <thestringpuller>	lol eve
Oct 16 19:52:39 <thestringpuller>	list an eve company on mpex
Oct 16 19:53:34 <Diablo-D3>	sure why not
Oct 16 19:54:16 <thestringpuller>	would you be open to that mircea_popescu?
Oct 16 19:54:38 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller if it can show a btc revenue source
Oct 16 19:56:31 <jurov>	<mircea_popescu> im not doing anything on reddit, so that might be a good spot... loool you forgot what i wrote yesterday? reddit reception was much worse than btctalk
Oct 16 19:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	jurov so therefore the girl is actually helping you lol
Oct 16 19:57:13 <thestringpuller>	lol illuminati
Oct 16 19:57:43 <mircea_popescu>	no, just, random idiot is a little less prone to start running his mouth for fear she might "troll him"
Oct 16 19:57:57 <thestringpuller>	when you control the btc market mircea_popescu give me one whitehouse intern
Oct 16 19:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 16 19:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	why not get your own ? they're not that hard you know.
Oct 16 20:01:49 <thestringpuller>	i should just hire cute interns
Oct 16 20:01:58 <thestringpuller>	offer them a share of mah dick
Oct 16 20:04:02 <jurov>	w000t google has free charts api... no messing with js
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Oct 16 20:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22819 @ 0.00042006 = 9.5853 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 20:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/bitcoin-is-creating-a-whole-new-set-of-problems/ if anyone's  curious.
Oct 16 20:28:59 <kakobrekla>	who was doxed
Oct 16 20:29:48 <Diablo-D3>	no one?
Oct 16 20:30:30 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i dunno, some -otc kid
Oct 16 20:30:47 <mircea_popescu>	didn't care enough to ask.
Oct 16 20:30:56 <kakobrekla>	oh you.
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Oct 16 21:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36700 @ 0.00042115 = 15.4562 BTC [+]
Oct 16 21:05:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.0004213 = 3.6653 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 21:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4273 @ 0.0004176 = 1.7844 BTC [-]
Oct 16 21:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10027 @ 0.0004175 = 4.1863 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 21:57:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00041778 = 5.3894 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 22:24:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00042127 = 1.2638 BTC [+]
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Oct 16 22:42:38 <thestringpuller>	this channel became silent
Oct 16 22:43:17 <Azelphur>	this channel became unsilent
Oct 16 22:43:34 <thestringpuller>	Yay
Oct 16 22:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 16 22:43:57 *	Azelphur runs around banging pots and things
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Oct 16 22:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 853 @ 0.00041824 = 0.3568 BTC [-]
Oct 16 22:50:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00041817 = 3.5544 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 22:53:29 <thestringpuller>	that was a good mental image Azelphur
Oct 16 22:53:38 <Azelphur>	thestringpuller: :D
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Oct 16 23:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what's the difference between cosplay and dressing as slave leila anyway ?!
Oct 16 23:06:03 <thestringpuller>	you obviously don't know the way of the neckbeards
Oct 16 23:06:31 <jcpham>	http://youtu.be/ZZ5LpwO-An4
Oct 16 23:06:34 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: there are 19 year olds who think they know philosophy better than the creators?
Oct 16 23:06:42 <thestringpuller>	(referring to blog post I just skimmed)
Oct 16 23:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	actually those who think so are moslty 19
Oct 16 23:06:51 <jcpham>	i'm 19
Oct 16 23:07:00 <mircea_popescu>	you're not 19
Oct 16 23:07:02 <jcpham>	you are offending me
Oct 16 23:07:29 <jcpham>	ok i'm almost 19
Oct 16 23:07:38 <thestringpuller>	meh when I was 19 I learned what "know thyself" truly meant, in conjunction with to truly learn you must admit you know nothing and always seek answers
Oct 16 23:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	yawell.
Oct 16 23:07:55 <thestringpuller>	kids just think they're invincible? or are pampered?
Oct 16 23:07:57 <jcpham>	yeah ilearned that too
Oct 16 23:08:12 <jcpham>	i'm a member of certain masonic and fraternal organizations
Oct 16 23:08:20 <jcpham>	they teach you that you know nothing thing
Oct 16 23:08:26 <jcpham>	birth to death, blah
Oct 16 23:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller self esteem and all sorts of retardedness, like no more at home beatings.
Oct 16 23:09:45 <jcpham>	is this the official channel of all things bitcoin divisible as an asset
Oct 16 23:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8Gr3LPzwMw
Oct 16 23:10:02 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu I don't know if you've seen Chappelle's Show, but there is this episode where this "white family" gives timeout to this hoodlum kid for "mouthing off". So he goes up to his room picks up a dirty mag and says, "timeout rules"
Oct 16 23:10:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 16 23:10:30 <thestringpuller>	so I guess you're right
Oct 16 23:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22349 @ 0.00041792 = 9.3401 BTC [-]
Oct 16 23:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00041989 = 10.7072 BTC [+]
Oct 16 23:10:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34600 @ 0.0004213 = 14.577 BTC [+]
Oct 16 23:10:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00042154 = 14.0794 BTC [+]
Oct 16 23:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00042393 = 2.9675 BTC [+]
Oct 16 23:10:50 <thestringpuller>	I was never beaten as a kid, but I learned to respect mah folks.
Oct 16 23:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2151 @ 0.00042425 = 0.9126 BTC [+]
Oct 16 23:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	beatings are like nuclear weapons
Oct 16 23:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	kids must know they're fully available and will be used.
Oct 16 23:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	then they're not really needed.
Oct 16 23:11:22 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: nothing, but that thread was all _naruto_ cosplay until the leia cosplay
Oct 16 23:11:31 <thestringpuller>	Lol
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Oct 16 23:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	omg cosplay takeover ?
Oct 16 23:11:36 <smickles>	and it was a massive amount of naruto cosplay
Oct 16 23:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is naruto
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Oct 16 23:11:51 <thestringpuller>	anime?
Oct 16 23:11:54 <thestringpuller>	usagi would know
Oct 16 23:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	and leila ?
Oct 16 23:11:56 <thestringpuller>	XD
Oct 16 23:12:02 <thestringpuller>	leia = star wars
Oct 16 23:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	o wow?!
Oct 16 23:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	i thought star wars is scifi
Oct 16 23:12:25 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Oct 16 23:14:00 <thestringpuller>	you don't look that old mircea_popescu
Oct 16 23:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	how old is that old ?
Oct 16 23:19:34 <thestringpuller>	I work with a guy who upgraded his computer to run doom
Oct 16 23:19:54 <mircea_popescu>	my first pc was a 286
Oct 16 23:20:02 <thestringpuller>	you're not that old =P
Oct 16 23:20:07 <thestringpuller>	you're silver age
Oct 16 23:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	before that i had a bunch of z80 clones
Oct 16 23:20:22 <thestringpuller>	old would be kids who programmed on the altair 8800
Oct 16 23:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/chaos-battle-of-the-wizards/
Oct 16 23:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	ever played that ?
Oct 16 23:21:11 <thestringpuller>	that looks awesome, but unfortunately no I haven't
Oct 16 23:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	noob :D
Oct 16 23:21:55 <thestringpuller>	:(
Oct 16 23:22:01 <thestringpuller>	But I'm going to play it now
Oct 16 23:22:05 <thestringpuller>	it's never too late to play classics
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Oct 16 23:22:56 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin: ageism
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Oct 16 23:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00042233 = 13.1767 BTC [-]
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Oct 16 23:39:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you don't look a day over 35
Oct 16 23:39:55 <thestringpuller>	or 30
Oct 16 23:40:13 <thestringpuller>	to be honest from the picture on your blog I would think you were in your 20's
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Oct 16 23:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	in that pic i was.
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Oct 17 00:02:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39973 @ 0.0004175 = 16.6887 BTC [-]
Oct 17 00:02:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1527 @ 0.00041748 = 0.6375 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 00:16:34 <dub>	http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/a/a9/He-Man.gif
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Oct 17 00:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00041835 = 7.112 BTC [+]
Oct 17 00:33:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: the old man
Oct 17 00:34:07 <thestringpuller>	That's your illuminati name "the old man"
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Oct 17 00:42:30 <smickles>	thestringpuller: http://encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu for the latest pic of mircea_popescu
Oct 17 00:42:56 <smickles>	http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu
Oct 17 00:43:09 <smickles>	i think i spelled it wrong the first time
Oct 17 00:51:02 <thestringpuller>	wow
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Oct 17 00:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00041793 = 8.5258 BTC [-]
Oct 17 00:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00041748 = 4.467 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 01:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 100 @ 0.0629201 = 6.292 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 01:25:41 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 17 01:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1562 @ 0.00041835 = 0.6535 BTC [+]
Oct 17 01:26:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00041937 = 1.7194 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 01:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00042015 = 3.9494 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 02:17:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16330 @ 0.00042015 = 6.861 BTC [+]
Oct 17 02:17:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25773 @ 0.00041748 = 10.7597 BTC [-]
Oct 17 02:17:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4347 @ 0.00041745 = 1.8147 BTC [-]
Oct 17 02:42:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48012 @ 0.00042051 = 20.1895 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 03:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6190 @ 0.00042051 = 2.603 BTC [+]
Oct 17 03:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44853 @ 0.00041745 = 18.7239 BTC [-]
Oct 17 03:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 457 @ 0.0004174 = 0.1908 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 03:32:14 <EskimoBob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118554.msg1276954#msg1276954  (Selfstarter makes it easy to roll your own crowdfunding site.)
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Oct 17 03:34:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.0004174 = 6.1358 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 03:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00042087 = 11.2793 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 04:25:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00041867 = 4.0611 BTC [-]
Oct 17 04:25:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3343 @ 0.0004174 = 1.3954 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 04:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.0004171 = 5.756 BTC [-]
Oct 17 04:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.0004167 = 8.834 BTC [-]
Oct 17 04:51:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00041639 = 2.9564 BTC [-]
Oct 17 04:51:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00041597 = 2.6206 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 05:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00041597 = 9.6505 BTC [-]
Oct 17 05:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00041591 = 0.6655 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 05:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.00041591 = 12.6853 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 06:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00041591 = 3.7848 BTC [-]
Oct 17 06:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17088 @ 0.00041582 = 7.1055 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 06:28:42 <kakobrekla>	http://eprint.iacr.org/2012/584.pdf
Oct 17 06:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10980 @ 0.00041605 = 4.5682 BTC [+]
Oct 17 06:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.00041646 = 11.0362 BTC [+]
Oct 17 06:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11020 @ 0.00041737 = 4.5994 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 07:00:16 <EskimoBob>	thanks kakobrekla, this has some really interesting information.
Oct 17 07:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21637 @ 0.00041737 = 9.0306 BTC [+]
Oct 17 07:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5063 @ 0.00041748 = 2.1137 BTC [+]
Oct 17 07:01:55 <EskimoBob>	for start, it proves that no matter what money/coin is used, it still ends up in the hands of 1%
Oct 17 07:02:06 <EskimoBob>	same shit, different coin :)
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Oct 17 07:25:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1235 @ 0.00041582 = 0.5135 BTC [-]
Oct 17 07:26:52 <EskimoBob>	now, can they find all the coins Trendon swindled and who helped him?
Oct 17 07:28:50 <pigeons>	it was a ponzi, all the coins are gone, he paid them out as interest
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Oct 17 07:29:36 <EskimoBob>	to his trusted shill :)
Oct 17 07:30:17 <pigeons>	no, i know several people who really did lose LOTS of coins
Oct 17 07:30:48 <EskimoBob>	are they Trendons trusted shills?
Oct 17 07:30:54 <pigeons>	they are not
Oct 17 07:31:08 <EskimoBob>	sock-puppets and fan-boys?
Oct 17 07:31:14 <EskimoBob>	no wonder they lost then
Oct 17 07:31:50 <EskimoBob>	I lost some too. Not directly but still
Oct 17 07:32:26 <EskimoBob>	This affected people who never invested to this assholes scam
Oct 17 07:32:36 <pigeons>	that is true
Oct 17 07:33:52 <EskimoBob>	why cant people like Trendon and his buddies be hit by a fkn buss and the slowly dragged along while they die slow and extremely painful death
Oct 17 07:34:57 <pigeons>	maybe you forgot to click your heels together three times
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Oct 17 07:35:08 <EskimoBob>	damn... you are right
Oct 17 07:35:30 <EskimoBob>	Trendon is dead now
Oct 17 07:35:45 <EskimoBob>	feels better too :)
Oct 17 07:39:38 <EskimoBob>	is that how the latest B in bitcoin looks?   http://bitfreak.info/pics/coins/bitcoin_goldv2.png
Oct 17 07:51:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 618 @ 0.00041582 = 0.257 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 08:16:10 <Chaang-Noi>	whats up guys?
Oct 17 08:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10237 @ 0.00041748 = 4.2737 BTC [+]
Oct 17 08:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8263 @ 0.00041759 = 3.4505 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 08:28:47 <EskimoBob>	nada Chaang-Noi
Oct 17 08:29:01 <EskimoBob>	it's dark and cold outside
Oct 17 08:29:53 <Chaang-Noi>	same here
Oct 17 08:30:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i hear thundorz too
Oct 17 08:30:18 <EskimoBob>	thundorz :)
Oct 17 08:31:47 <EskimoBob>	sent you a PM Chaang-Noi
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Oct 17 08:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 237 @ 0.00041759 = 0.099 BTC [+]
Oct 17 08:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10263 @ 0.00041858 = 4.2959 BTC [+]
Oct 17 08:45:34 <dub>	this cranberry redbull is screaming for vodka
Oct 17 08:49:15 <Chaang-Noi>	rebull is a thai drink :)
Oct 17 08:49:20 <Chaang-Noi>	redbull*
Oct 17 08:49:27 <Chaang-Noi>	vodka however is not
Oct 17 08:50:12 <dub>	yeah I occaisionally buy the original thai stuff
Oct 17 08:50:35 <dub>	it like taurine syrup
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Oct 17 09:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7362 @ 0.00041775 = 3.0755 BTC [-]
Oct 17 09:08:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9290 @ 0.00041858 = 3.8886 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 09:14:57 <Chaang-Noi>	dub where do you live to get the thai stuff?
Oct 17 09:15:03 <Chaang-Noi>	also in thailand we have 5 differnt types
Oct 17 09:15:54 <dub>	  its not called redbull
Oct 17 09:16:09 <dub>	forget the name but it has the original logo
Oct 17 09:17:56 <Chaang-Noi>	?
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Oct 17 09:21:43 <dub>	maybe its not redbull, comes in a small glass bottle, uncarbonated, tastes like redbull mixed woth robotussin
Oct 17 09:22:09 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Oct 17 09:22:11 <Chaang-Noi>	no idea
Oct 17 09:25:05 <vampireb>	GFDL Krating Daeng
Oct 17 09:25:12 <vampireb>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GFDL_Krating_Daeng_150ml.jpg
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Oct 17 09:33:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38500 @ 0.00041743 = 16.0711 BTC [-]
Oct 17 09:34:41 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 17 09:34:43 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 hour, 33 minutes, and 14 seconds
Oct 17 09:34:55 <vampireb>	slow block
Oct 17 09:38:43 <EskimoBob>	looks like I have to figure out how to pay the gratuity on assets-otc system
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Oct 17 09:48:45 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah why we haz ltc
Oct 17 09:48:47 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 17 09:48:50 <gribble>	Time since last block: 8 minutes and 25 seconds
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Oct 17 09:49:19 <thestringpuller>	the legendary gkat
Oct 17 09:49:30 <thestringpuller>	goat*
Oct 17 09:51:36 <dub>	its all his fault
Oct 17 09:55:26 <thestringpuller>	it is
Oct 17 09:55:31 <thestringpuller>	he made nefario mad
Oct 17 09:55:34 <thestringpuller>	blame goat
Oct 17 09:55:47 *	thestringpuller gets pitchfork
Oct 17 09:55:54 <thestringpuller>	who's with me?
Oct 17 09:57:32 <dub>	burninate him!
Oct 17 09:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14129 @ 0.00041582 = 5.8751 BTC [-]
Oct 17 10:14:19 <vampireb>	um. a fresh goat steak
Oct 17 10:14:26 <vampireb>	or make some stew
Oct 17 10:20:16 <dub>	I make a mean goat curry
Oct 17 10:26:13 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Oct 17 10:26:38 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah nef pissed me off (cuz he was an asshole lier) so i got upset, then shit happened
Oct 17 10:26:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00041743 = 4.216 BTC [+]
Oct 17 10:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6947 @ 0.00041858 = 2.9079 BTC [+]
Oct 17 10:26:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10917 @ 0.00042051 = 4.5907 BTC [+]
Oct 17 10:26:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24512 @ 0.00042087 = 10.3164 BTC [+]
Oct 17 10:26:51 <Chaang-Noi>	if nef was a caring and honest guy shit would not go down like it did
Oct 17 10:27:11 <Chaang-Noi>	sacrificing a goat to your god of choice will not do a damn thing
Oct 17 10:35:05 <thestringpuller>	Nefario is sketchy Chaang-Noi
Oct 17 10:35:14 <thestringpuller>	no one blames you for getting msd
Oct 17 10:35:40 <thestringpuller>	if anything he should have been delisting pirate passthrough to clean up the bad debt
Oct 17 10:36:04 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 17 10:36:13 <Chaang-Noi>	he killed active good stuff and not scam stuff
Oct 17 10:36:19 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz he called him a scammer lol
Oct 17 10:36:23 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz he broke his word
Oct 17 10:36:24 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
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Oct 17 10:39:38 <thestringpuller>	and they wonder why we are so skeptical
Oct 17 10:41:53 <Chaang-Noi>	it is a mess
Oct 17 10:52:09 <thestringpuller>	Chaang-Noi: didnt you use bitcoin to buy farmland?
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Oct 17 10:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53603 @ 0.0004182 = 22.4168 BTC [-]
Oct 17 10:55:01 <Chaang-Noi>	no
Oct 17 10:55:04 <Chaang-Noi>	it was an idea
Oct 17 10:55:08 <Chaang-Noi>	we enver did it
Oct 17 10:55:12 <Chaang-Noi>	and at this time we wont
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Oct 17 11:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 197 @ 0.0004182 = 0.0824 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 11:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2503 @ 0.00041631 = 1.042 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 12:09:31 <midnightmagic>	nefario.. is sketchy?
Oct 17 12:09:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41878 @ 0.00041848 = 17.5251 BTC [+]
Oct 17 12:15:03 <Chaang-Noi>	he be a scammer if nothing else
Oct 17 12:16:55 <pigeons>	i wont argue if people feel he's a scammer, but i dont think he scammed people so much as screwed them
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Oct 17 12:33:04 <copumpkin>	the word scammer is way overused around here
Oct 17 12:33:14 <copumpkin>	if you do something wrong, or someone gets hurt because of you, you're a scammer
Oct 17 12:33:55 <copumpkin>	we need more nuance, where you have scammer, unlucky bastard, clueless irresponsible asshole, thief, etc.
Oct 17 12:35:04 <kakobrekla>	milk.
Oct 17 12:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0004161 = 3.204 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 12:36:05 <copumpkin>	milque
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Oct 17 13:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.0004161 = 4.9516 BTC [-]
Oct 17 13:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19718 @ 0.00041582 = 8.1991 BTC [-]
Oct 17 13:06:47 <jurov>	oh yes, we'll end up using terms like larceny
Oct 17 13:07:18 <jurov>	"larcenist tag" - do i spell it right?
Oct 17 13:07:59 <jurov>	.dict larcenist
Oct 17 13:07:59 <markac>	jurov: Microsoft removed Encarta, try .w instead!
Oct 17 13:08:05 <jurov>	.w larcenist
Oct 17 13:08:09 <markac>	larcenist — noun: 1. One who commits larceny, a thief
Oct 17 13:10:24 <jurov>	oh yes "(wo)man of moral turpitude" my new favourite term
Oct 17 13:10:38 <copumpkin>	lol
Oct 17 13:11:53 <jurov>	and embezzler .. that sounds almost noble
Oct 17 13:12:34 <jurov>	.w embezzler
Oct 17 13:12:36 <markac>	embezzler — noun: 1. one who steals money they have been trusted with, especially from one's employer; one who embezzles
Oct 17 13:12:50 <copumpkin>	that's a pretty common word
Oct 17 13:12:55 <copumpkin>	not sure it has noble connotations to me :)
Oct 17 13:13:35 <jurov>	but it isn't used much on btctalk
Oct 17 13:14:18 <rdponticelli>	Embezzlement requieres some degree of sofistication
Oct 17 13:14:30 <rdponticelli>	In bitcointalk we have more raw sammers
Oct 17 13:14:49 <rdponticelli>	s/sammers/scammers/
Oct 17 13:15:33 <pigeons>	make me a scamwich
Oct 17 13:15:54 <jurov>	well i see the headlines next year Bitcoin Community Has Progressed From Scamming Upwards To Embezzlement
Oct 17 13:15:56 <rdponticelli>	Try with sudo :)
Oct 17 13:17:51 <jurov>	sudo make me a scamwich
Oct 17 13:17:57 <jurov>	make : 'me' target not found
Oct 17 13:18:14 <jurov>	make is selfless, ya know
Oct 17 13:19:10 <rdponticelli>	sudo make me a scamwich -f makefile.myself
Oct 17 13:20:42 <rdponticelli>	Anyway, let's not give selfconciousness to make
Oct 17 13:20:53 <rdponticelli>	It could be dangerous
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Oct 17 13:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00041802 = 4.0966 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 13:43:13 <EskimoBob>	Tonight (after UTC 19.00) I am going send out a small gratuity to those brave, who have show support to this project by purchasing ART-OTC support tokens from assets-otc.com
Oct 17 13:43:16 <EskimoBob>	cheers!
Oct 17 13:44:58 <pigeons>	ponzi!
Oct 17 13:45:08 <copumpkin>	SCAM
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Oct 17 13:47:05 <jurov>	larceny!
Oct 17 13:47:27 <EskimoBob>	terrorism!
Oct 17 13:48:54 <copumpkin>	PORNOGRAPHY
Oct 17 13:48:57 <EskimoBob>	all I need to do is add imaginary "mining equipment" and money starts to flow in .. LOL
Oct 17 13:49:01 <copumpkin>	(worse than all of the above combined)
Oct 17 13:49:06 <jurov>	jaywalking!
Oct 17 13:49:09 <EskimoBob>	propaganda?
Oct 17 13:49:09 <pigeons>	arbitrage!
Oct 17 13:49:19 <pigeons>	solidcoin!
Oct 17 13:49:22 <copumpkin>	FEES!
Oct 17 13:49:26 <copumpkin>	TAXATION!!!!!
Oct 17 13:49:38 <pigeons>	AML!
Oct 17 13:49:42 <EskimoBob>	c'mn guy! the most popular and over used word is.... TROLLING! :)
Oct 17 13:49:55 <jurov>	EskimoBob, on that note heard something about "art equipment"
Oct 17 13:49:59 <EskimoBob>	not with a fishing boat btw
Oct 17 13:50:19 <EskimoBob>	jurov: it is. nothing to do with mining
Oct 17 13:50:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1712 @ 0.00041582 = 0.7119 BTC [-]
Oct 17 13:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00041555 = 10.4303 BTC [-]
Oct 17 13:50:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2288 @ 0.00041553 = 0.9507 BTC [-]
Oct 17 13:51:01 <EskimoBob>	if I wanted to scam some coin, all I had to do was mention "clear path", asic and mining :)
Oct 17 13:52:31 <pigeons>	whatever, the trusted usagi told us you're a scam
Oct 17 13:52:40 <pigeons>	he's a hero member
Oct 17 13:53:05 <thestringpuller>	im goingto build my on asics with blackjack and hookers
Oct 17 13:53:20 <EskimoBob>	LOL, good one
Oct 17 13:54:12 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: that same trusted usagi, how wasted 7000+ BTC of investors coin? I think I need to hire him as my PR guy and a fund manager
Oct 17 13:54:58 *	EskimoBob will be riiiiich after usagi is done with my money
Oct 17 13:55:10 <pigeons>	it's not his fault, he only invested in trusted things like OBSI.HRPT
Oct 17 13:55:13 <thestringpuller>	usagi lost 7000
Oct 17 13:55:49 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: probably more. Calculations are in the forum
Oct 17 13:55:52 <thestringpuller>	all usagi investors should get together and document collrctively how much they wrote off from him
Oct 17 13:56:00 <thestringpuller>	oh they did that alread ylol
Oct 17 13:56:01 <thestringpuller>	nvm
Oct 17 13:56:27 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: not only. large holdings of DMC and other well managed portfolios are to blame too
Oct 17 13:57:10 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: evil trolls with pocket calculators and common sense did that :)
Oct 17 13:58:48 <thestringpuller>	well i lost 19.6 btc on his so called insured fund
Oct 17 13:58:49 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Oct 17 14:16:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34512 @ 0.00041553 = 14.3408 BTC [-]
Oct 17 14:16:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00041548 = 6.6477 BTC [-]
Oct 17 14:16:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7345 @ 0.00041531 = 3.0505 BTC [-]
Oct 17 14:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00041602 = 3.8274 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 15:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00041576 = 7.6916 BTC [-]
Oct 17 15:34:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00041531 = 7.1433 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 15:59:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1955 @ 0.00041531 = 0.8119 BTC [-]
Oct 17 15:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 481 @ 0.00041487 = 0.1996 BTC [-]
Oct 17 15:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19603 @ 0.00041468 = 8.129 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 16:20:52 <thestringpuller>	it is so silent
Oct 17 16:21:38 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: wadduo
Oct 17 16:23:32 <EskimoBob>	huh?
Oct 17 16:24:41 *	EskimoBob clicked "Send" - gratuity was sent to ART-OTC owners.
Oct 17 16:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9002 @ 0.00041576 = 3.7427 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 16:51:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28160 @ 0.00041515 = 11.6906 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 17:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4598 @ 0.00041576 = 1.9117 BTC [+]
Oct 17 17:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19602 @ 0.00041677 = 8.1695 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 17:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32276 @ 0.00041677 = 13.4517 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 17:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4122 @ 0.00041802 = 1.7231 BTC [+]
Oct 17 17:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00042015 = 16.848 BTC [+]
Oct 17 17:52:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4788 @ 0.00042087 = 2.0151 BTC [+]
Oct 17 17:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00042106 = 2.9895 BTC [+]
Oct 17 17:53:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00042121 = 10.783 BTC [+]
Oct 17 17:53:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00042125 = 9.2675 BTC [+]
Oct 17 17:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11290 @ 0.00042136 = 4.7572 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 17:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00042136 = 0.0421 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 18:11:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 650 @ 0.11358979 = 73.8334 BTC [-]
Oct 17 18:12:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 650 @ 0.2194982 = 142.6738 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 18:38:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00041811 = 4.8919 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 19:02:27 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 17 19:02:28 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.82665, Best ask: 11.8277, Bid-ask spread: 0.00105, Last trade: 11.93505, 24 hour volume: 23156, 24 hour low: 11.7, 24 hour high: 11.95998
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Oct 17 19:04:29 <Diablo-D3>	http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/17/man-arrested-in-plot-to-blow-up-federal-reserve-bank-in-new-york/?hpt=hp_t1
Oct 17 19:04:33 <Diablo-D3>	damnit!
Oct 17 19:04:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6824 @ 0.00041744 = 2.8486 BTC [-]
Oct 17 19:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23976 @ 0.00041733 = 10.0059 BTC [-]
Oct 17 19:05:30 <thestringpuller>	lol mpoe is going up and down
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Oct 17 19:18:05 <Diablo-D3>	http://i.imgur.com/jO3lR.gif
Oct 17 19:18:09 <Diablo-D3>	http://i.imgur.com/vzWw4.gif
Oct 17 19:28:53 <thestringpuller>	:P
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Oct 17 19:30:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00041811 = 8.5294 BTC [+]
Oct 17 19:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10724 @ 0.00041866 = 4.4897 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 19:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18752 @ 0.00041866 = 7.8507 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 20:22:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.0004207 = 5.427 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 20:36:01 <BTC-Mining>	eh, it looks like it would now take something like 200 months for getting back your investment in interests on S.MPOE
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Oct 17 20:49:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00042064 = 10.6001 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 21:14:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6201 @ 0.00042045 = 2.6072 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 21:33:39 <rg>	I DONT WANNA WERK
Oct 17 21:33:46 <rg>	I JUST WANNA BANG ON MIRCEA'S SLUTS ALL DAY
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Oct 17 21:37:08 <copumpkin>	rg: when do you move?
Oct 17 21:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00042045 = 17.8691 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 21:45:41 <rg>	copumpkin: not soon enough
Oct 17 21:45:50 <rg>	my cheap ass employer is 'shopping for immigration lawyers'
Oct 17 21:45:57 <copumpkin>	:/
Oct 17 21:46:01 <rg>	they were setup with a perfectly fine guy
Oct 17 21:46:10 <rg>	he did the immigration for my friend from Ukraine -> UK
Oct 17 21:46:14 <dub>	still moving to scamtown?
Oct 17 21:46:19 <rg>	who also works at the company
Oct 17 21:46:24 <rg>	but he wants to be paid, obviously
Oct 17 21:46:29 <rg>	and they dont wanna pay him
Oct 17 21:47:18 <dub>	dammit now i've go tto play
Oct 17 21:47:25 <rg>	their cheapskatery is inhibiting my employment
Oct 17 21:47:30 <dub>	dammit wrong window
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Oct 17 22:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 599 @ 0.00042045 = 0.2518 BTC [-]
Oct 17 22:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8848 @ 0.0004203 = 3.7188 BTC [-]
Oct 17 22:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2753 @ 0.00042004 = 1.1564 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 22:28:22 <copumpkin>	rg: tell them to quit being assholes
Oct 17 22:28:26 <copumpkin>	*arseholes
Oct 17 22:29:59 <rg>	i id
Oct 17 22:30:00 <rg>	did
Oct 17 22:30:03 <rg>	i talked to them the other weke
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Oct 17 22:30:10 <rg>	a friend who works there was ordered to do a report
Oct 17 22:30:14 <rg>	and i helped him with it
Oct 17 22:30:17 <rg>	meaning i got credit on it
Oct 17 22:30:22 <rg>	so when he presented i
Oct 17 22:30:23 <rg>	it
Oct 17 22:30:29 <rg>	my name was plastered all over the bulk of it
Oct 17 22:30:39 <rg>	so they were like ohh shit... hes already doing work for us
Oct 17 22:30:47 <rg>	i got an email the next day
Oct 17 22:32:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8917 @ 0.00042058 = 3.7503 BTC [+]
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Oct 17 22:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28783 @ 0.00042058 = 12.1056 BTC [+]
Oct 17 22:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14917 @ 0.00042004 = 6.2657 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 23:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00042004 = 8.9469 BTC [-]
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Oct 17 23:49:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00042064 = 4.9215 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 00:16:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00042064 = 6.5199 BTC [+]
Oct 18 00:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31833 @ 0.0004207 = 13.3921 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 00:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41017 @ 0.00042008 = 17.2304 BTC [-]
Oct 18 00:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3083 @ 0.00042004 = 1.295 BTC [-]
Oct 18 01:06:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3510 @ 0.0004207 = 1.4767 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 01:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6757 @ 0.0004207 = 2.8427 BTC [+]
Oct 18 01:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4493 @ 0.00042136 = 1.8932 BTC [+]
Oct 18 01:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00042155 = 10.0118 BTC [+]
Oct 18 02:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53600 @ 0.00042046 = 22.5367 BTC [-]
Oct 18 02:25:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44500 @ 0.00042071 = 18.7216 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 02:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00042046 = 2.3966 BTC [-]
Oct 18 02:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7708 @ 0.00042004 = 3.2377 BTC [-]
Oct 18 02:51:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23992 @ 0.00041869 = 10.0452 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 03:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00042071 = 5.1747 BTC [+]
Oct 18 03:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00042155 = 2.4871 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 03:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00041869 = 6.6153 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 04:07:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10813 @ 0.00041869 = 4.5273 BTC [-]
Oct 18 04:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10678 @ 0.00041793 = 4.4627 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 04:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18640 @ 0.00042155 = 7.8577 BTC [+]
Oct 18 04:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8294 @ 0.00042219 = 3.5016 BTC [+]
Oct 18 04:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5866 @ 0.00042224 = 2.4769 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 05:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 6 @ 0.10801886 = 0.6481 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 05:26:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7804 @ 0.00042224 = 3.2952 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 05:53:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00042052 = 13.4146 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 06:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00042052 = 4.079 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 06:33:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 3 @ 0.04567205 = 0.137 BTC [-]
Oct 18 06:59:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6012 @ 0.00041853 = 2.5162 BTC [-]
Oct 18 06:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2822 @ 0.00041793 = 1.1794 BTC [-]
Oct 18 06:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00041769 = 14.5774 BTC [-]
Oct 18 06:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00041759 = 2.1297 BTC [-]
Oct 18 07:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44000 @ 0.00041759 = 18.374 BTC [-]
Oct 18 07:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00041743 = 4.55 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 07:40:38 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 18 07:40:49 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.87767, Best ask: 11.87902, Bid-ask spread: 0.00135, Last trade: 11.87912, 24 hour volume: 22626, 24 hour low: 11.71692, 24 hour high: 11.95998
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Oct 18 07:52:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25577 @ 0.00041743 = 10.6766 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 07:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00041939 = 0.8388 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 08:02:03 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 0.00041939-0.00041743
Oct 18 08:02:12 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 18 08:02:25 <gribble>	1.96e-06
Oct 18 08:02:26 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.85188, Best ask: 11.8799, Bid-ask spread: 0.02802, Last trade: 11.88, 24 hour volume: 23208, 24 hour low: 11.71692, 24 hour high: 11.95998
Oct 18 08:03:10 <thestringpuller>	;;cal 1.96e-06 / 0.00041939
Oct 18 08:03:10 <gribble>	Error: "cal" is not a valid command.
Oct 18 08:03:14 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 1.96e-06 / 0.00041939
Oct 18 08:03:14 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Oct 18 08:03:44 <thestringpuller>	;;calc .00000196 / 0.00041939
Oct 18 08:03:45 <gribble>	0.00467345430268
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Oct 18 08:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00041743 = 0.1252 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 08:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.00041791 = 16.8418 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 09:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3632 @ 0.00041791 = 1.5178 BTC [+]
Oct 18 09:16:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11233 @ 0.00041743 = 4.689 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 09:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27311 @ 0.00041893 = 11.4414 BTC [+]
Oct 18 09:46:13 <thestringpuller>	Anyone out there?
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Oct 18 10:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2890 @ 0.00041743 = 1.2064 BTC [-]
Oct 18 10:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 810 @ 0.00041733 = 0.338 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 10:35:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00041733 = 0.1669 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 11:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16414 @ 0.00041733 = 6.8501 BTC [-]
Oct 18 11:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19531 @ 0.00041731 = 8.1505 BTC [-]
Oct 18 11:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16463 @ 0.0004173 = 6.87 BTC [-]
Oct 18 11:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 492 @ 0.00041725 = 0.2053 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 11:05:47 <jurov>	http://live.coinbr.com/demo.html ;)
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Oct 18 11:25:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00041725 = 3.5884 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 11:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00041761 = 8.4566 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 12:15:49 <jurov>	wallspotters alert! http://live.coinbr.com/demo.html ;)
Oct 18 12:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34508 @ 0.00041725 = 14.3985 BTC [-]
Oct 18 12:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2192 @ 0.00041724 = 0.9146 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 12:30:36 <kakobreklaaa>	nice Juhis
Oct 18 12:30:37 <kakobreklaaa>	eh
Oct 18 12:30:39 <kakobreklaaa>	jurov
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Oct 18 12:32:02 <thestringpuller>	jurov: you around?
Oct 18 12:32:10 <jurov>	yes
Oct 18 12:32:13 <thestringpuller>	I'm using your service lol
Oct 18 12:32:59 <jurov>	oh...why "lol" ?
Oct 18 12:33:13 <thestringpuller>	i lol at everything I laugh a lot
Oct 18 12:33:20 <thestringpuller>	I'm also watching futurama
Oct 18 12:33:22 <jurov>	good
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Oct 18 12:42:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00041724 = 13.9358 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 12:52:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00041761 = 2.9442 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00041783 = 7.7299 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00041823 = 1.5056 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32189 @ 0.00041893 = 13.4849 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00041939 = 5.6198 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41331 @ 0.00041976 = 17.3491 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49987 @ 0.00042055 = 21.022 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56000 @ 0.00042133 = 23.5945 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48800 @ 0.00042216 = 20.6014 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25930 @ 0.00042224 = 10.9487 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00042225 = 4.9403 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57670 @ 0.00042268 = 24.376 BTC [+]
Oct 18 12:52:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33843 @ 0.00042275 = 14.3071 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 12:55:09 <thestringpuller>	yes
Oct 18 12:57:22 <thestringpuller>	just a little more
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Oct 18 13:07:56 <FabianB>	jurov: cool, so soon ppl don't need to complain about mpex not being styled anymore
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Oct 18 13:11:09 <thestringpuller>	jurov:
Oct 18 13:11:30 <jurov>	where should i respond? here?
Oct 18 13:12:44 <jurov>	thestringpuller, yes i have in mind mtgoxlive.
Oct 18 13:13:56 <jurov>	i already am working on reading data from RSS, almost done there just is some stubborn problem that they don't show in the chart
Oct 18 13:14:03 <jurov>	*price data
Oct 18 13:17:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00042272 = 0.4227 BTC [-]
Oct 18 13:17:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13599 @ 0.00042275 = 5.749 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:17:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10001 @ 0.00042279 = 4.2283 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25899 @ 0.00042279 = 10.9498 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16165 @ 0.00042376 = 6.8501 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00042378 = 3.3479 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00042383 = 3.2635 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44025 @ 0.00042401 = 18.667 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.0004245 = 10.655 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58638 @ 0.00042458 = 24.8965 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00042467 = 2.9302 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33035 @ 0.00042492 = 14.0372 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.00042602 = 13.0362 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 975 @ 0.0004261 = 0.4154 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00042634 = 3.5548 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:18 <jurov>	yeehaw it's there! i just divided the price by SATOSHI twice...
Oct 18 13:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38833 @ 0.00042652 = 16.5631 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2310 @ 0.00042679 = 0.9859 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36866 @ 0.00042681 = 15.7348 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38700 @ 0.00042707 = 16.5276 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43300 @ 0.00042732 = 18.503 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00042757 = 11.4589 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 948 @ 0.00042829 = 0.406 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00042922 = 15.7095 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:20:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24987 @ 0.00042968 = 10.7364 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00043016 = 12.5177 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44913 @ 0.00043018 = 19.3207 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:21:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 487 @ 0.00043121 = 0.21 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:23:16 <FabianB>	huh?
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Oct 18 13:25:44 <jurov>	uploaded, you can check it now
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Oct 18 13:25:56 <jurov>	however, it uses only data available from RSS
Oct 18 13:26:32 <FabianB>	ah, cool
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Oct 18 13:26:47 <FabianB>	looks nice
Oct 18 13:27:10 <jurov>	<3 google charts. it was a breeze
Oct 18 13:27:29 <FabianB>	jurov: but for the order book you have api data?
Oct 18 13:28:02 <jurov>	yes, from mktdepth.php
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Oct 18 13:29:16 <FabianB>	jurov: looks ready to be linked from coinbr.com main page
Oct 18 13:29:44 <jurov>	yea, i'd just like to fix the date/time format
Oct 18 13:30:46 <jurov>	and urge mircea to allow cross-origin api access, so that i don't have to proxy everything
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Oct 18 13:31:10 <FabianB>	:)
Oct 18 13:39:03 <jurov>	and later, add animation
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Oct 18 13:43:53 <thestringpuller>	jurov: I can get something running really quickly if we could read in data over a line like an api or something
Oct 18 13:44:23 <thestringpuller>	there's no way for me to dive into the order book, nor is there a way for me to see historical prices
Oct 18 13:45:16 <jurov>	but i don't collect historical data, too.. always leave such tool "for later"
Oct 18 13:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10613 @ 0.00043121 = 4.5764 BTC [+]
Oct 18 13:46:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9987 @ 0.00043132 = 4.3076 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 13:47:47 <jurov>	or mayb if someone offered me funding to provide such api (wink,wink)
Oct 18 13:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00043 = 0.43 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 13:50:58 <thestringpuller>	jurov: how much funding...
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Oct 18 13:53:09 <jurov>	just few tens of BTC, it isn't very complicated. but we also need to find someone who did collect the data and buy them.
Oct 18 13:55:05 <thestringpuller>	i mean can't you collect the data via mpex itself
Oct 18 13:55:24 <thestringpuller>	I"m sure The Old Man has disks with it on it
Oct 18 13:55:32 <thestringpuller>	with historical data on it*
Oct 18 13:56:14 <jurov>	yes we'll see what he says
Oct 18 13:57:31 <thestringpuller>	I'm trying to launch my own service
Oct 18 13:57:48 <thestringpuller>	but I just did a call and made money in about 20 minutes
Oct 18 13:57:49 <thestringpuller>	so
Oct 18 13:58:11 <thestringpuller>	mpex has much more volume than glbse ever did
Oct 18 13:58:28 <jurov>	what kind of service?
Oct 18 13:59:37 <jurov>	and yes i can collect the data from mpex, but i did not started yet
Oct 18 14:01:29 <thestringpuller>	fastcash4bitcoins but with better rates and more options
Oct 18 14:01:51 <thestringpuller>	we are offering moneygram and western union
Oct 18 14:02:04 <thestringpuller>	BTC -> Cash quick
Oct 18 14:02:17 <thestringpuller>	within 10 minutes if you're willing to pay the processing fees
Oct 18 14:02:47 <jurov>	cool. i have an idea and need partner
Oct 18 14:03:18 <jurov>	so that you can fund CoinBr by Paypal or similar but you can't withdraw for 90 days
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Oct 18 14:03:45 <jurov>	if user does chargeback, poof - all his assets gone
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Oct 18 14:05:42 <thestringpuller>	i could set that up
Oct 18 14:05:44 <thestringpuller>	but why not dwolla
Oct 18 14:05:47 <thestringpuller>	they are more trusted
Oct 18 14:06:13 <jurov>	no prob, paypal just came to my mind
Oct 18 14:06:43 <thestringpuller>	paypal has this "customer is right policy" and there is a black market for paypal accounts
Oct 18 14:07:01 <thestringpuller>	well I guess all and all you are more likely to come accross someone using a stolen paypal account that will incur chargebacks
Oct 18 14:07:46 <thestringpuller>	you should partner with bitinstant
Oct 18 14:07:49 <jurov>	i know. i don't want to mess with that. need someone who knows how to do paypal/wolla/lr... stuff
Oct 18 14:08:20 <jurov>	ic
Oct 18 14:08:20 <thestringpuller>	use bitinstants api
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Oct 18 14:08:29 <thestringpuller>	they take no more than 4%
Oct 18 14:08:39 <thestringpuller>	insta deposit
Oct 18 14:08:48 <thestringpuller>	use the api call that does deposit -> btc address
Oct 18 14:08:52 <jurov>	nice, thx
Oct 18 14:08:58 <thestringpuller>	use the coin.br deposit
Oct 18 14:09:02 <thestringpuller>	you could probably get that up by tonight
Oct 18 14:09:09 <thestringpuller>	i'd use it lol
Oct 18 14:09:45 <thestringpuller>	also you should do brokerage consultancy
Oct 18 14:10:23 <thestringpuller>	if customers show a demand for it assign a broker to a customer to ask questions about their portfolio etc
Oct 18 14:10:31 <thestringpuller>	especially if they have a good bit invested
Oct 18 14:10:44 <jurov>	A bit much for me. Anyone can do it right now, by getting referrals and doing consultancy for them.
Oct 18 14:11:04 <thestringpuller>	Maybe partner with them as "mentors"
Oct 18 14:11:07 <thestringpuller>	like smickles and such
Oct 18 14:12:09 <jurov>	I'm much more a programmer/admin than a businessman. I see coinbr more like a platform.
Oct 18 14:13:16 <jurov>	There are some businesspeople already watching. and i hope they will come and tell what they need and also fund these new  functions
Oct 18 14:13:33 <jurov>	cause it will take quite some time for coinbr to be profitable by itself
Oct 18 14:13:53 <thestringpuller>	well you have advert in the irc channel
Oct 18 14:14:01 <thestringpuller>	that's how I found it
Oct 18 14:14:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00043 = 13.502 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 14:15:43 <jurov>	i have ads in more places... but i so far put them only there where I don't have to explain much what MPEx or SatoshiDICE is
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Oct 18 14:39:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00043 = 17.673 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 15:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32813 @ 0.00043132 = 14.1529 BTC [+]
Oct 18 15:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17387 @ 0.00043142 = 7.5011 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 15:31:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11881 @ 0.00043 = 5.1088 BTC [-]
Oct 18 15:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29819 @ 0.0004278 = 12.7566 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 15:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2313 @ 0.00043142 = 0.9979 BTC [+]
Oct 18 15:57:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18621 @ 0.00043206 = 8.0454 BTC [+]
Oct 18 15:57:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13066 @ 0.00043297 = 5.6572 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 16:11:41 <jurov>	done for today: http://live.coinbr.com
Oct 18 16:14:16 <jurov>	no trades for S.DICE, sadly
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Oct 18 16:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00043297 = 10.348 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 16:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1334 @ 0.00043297 = 0.5776 BTC [+]
Oct 18 16:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6366 @ 0.00043326 = 2.7581 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 16:53:12 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker last
Oct 18 16:53:13 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations).
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Oct 18 17:14:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2834 @ 0.00043326 = 1.2279 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 17:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00043607 = 8.3289 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 18:05:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5883 @ 0.00043607 = 2.5654 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 18:31:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00046059 = 0.8291 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 18:58:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00045931 = 8.5432 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 19:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00045824 = 8.7982 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 19:36:28 <thestringpuller>	where is everyone
Oct 18 19:36:35 <thestringpuller>	this channel is a ghost town
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Oct 18 19:41:53 <kakobrekla>	not any more
Oct 18 19:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	what's up folks!
Oct 18 19:43:12 <thestringpuller>	you are back
Oct 18 19:43:19 <thestringpuller>	missed you the past few days
Oct 18 19:43:46 <thestringpuller>	jurov and i want to make pretty graphs for MPOE
Oct 18 19:43:55 <thestringpuller>	can we :)
Oct 18 19:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	haah sure.
Oct 18 19:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't even know i was gone!
Oct 18 19:48:50 <thestringpuller>	ive been reading your blog and taking metrics for my business project
Oct 18 19:49:01 <thestringpuller>	you have good insight into things
Oct 18 19:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	o hey ty.
Oct 18 19:50:09 <copumpkin>	lol, did Clipse run off too?
Oct 18 19:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00045824 = 1.4205 BTC [-]
Oct 18 19:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	whoa ?!
Oct 18 19:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	when did 45 happen ?
Oct 18 19:51:42 <thestringpuller>	today
Oct 18 19:51:52 <thestringpuller>	jurov service has something to do with it
Oct 18 19:52:08 <thestringpuller>	i made a call today and its slowly been going up
Oct 18 19:52:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105 @ 0.0004601 = 0.0483 BTC [+]
Oct 18 19:52:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48300 @ 0.00045738 = 22.0915 BTC [-]
Oct 18 19:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40163 @ 0.0004557 = 18.3023 BTC [-]
Oct 18 19:52:22 <mircea_popescu>	let's simmer down for a moment.
Oct 18 19:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00045383 = 6.989 BTC [-]
Oct 18 19:52:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00045326 = 14.3683 BTC [-]
Oct 18 19:52:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32171 @ 0.00044274 = 14.2434 BTC [-]
Oct 18 19:52:35 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 18 19:52:47 <thestringpuller>	its a new high. reason to celebrate non?
Oct 18 19:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	dude, srsly, it's very nice to wake up, log in, and see you're worth 30k btc more now
Oct 18 19:54:29 <thestringpuller>	reserve stock?
Oct 18 19:54:51 <thestringpuller>	or is that the market valuation of mpoe?
Oct 18 19:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	.g trilema mpoe resultate septembrie
Oct 18 19:55:14 <markac>	mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-rezultate-septembrie-2012/
Oct 18 19:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	im like 90% shareholder still.
Oct 18 19:55:47 <thestringpuller>	wow you have a lot of stock reserved jaha
Oct 18 19:55:50 <thestringpuller>	good for you mang
Oct 18 19:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	it's been making money all around, you should ask smickles about mpoe.etf history.
Oct 18 19:56:25 <thestringpuller>	mpoe is worth almost 1m usd now?
Oct 18 19:56:30 <thestringpuller>	0.6M
Oct 18 19:56:37 <mircea_popescu>	originally my stock was offered in a ballot system (anyone could send money, fixed block would be allocated proportionally at the end of an interval)
Oct 18 19:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	he ran this glbse thing collecting investment and subscribing it in that programme
Oct 18 19:57:09 <mircea_popescu>	ended up with ~1.2 btc of stock for each .1 invested originally.
Oct 18 19:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	and no, mpoe is worth like 6mn now.
Oct 18 19:57:17 <thestringpuller>	wow
Oct 18 19:57:26 <thestringpuller>	congrats dude fo realz
Oct 18 19:57:36 <thestringpuller>	a lot haters out there
Oct 18 19:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	course it doesn't actually have the mkt depth to liquidate for 6mn, and anyway the contract prevents me from selling more than half.
Oct 18 19:58:01 <thestringpuller>	behind every successful person lies a pack of haters
Oct 18 19:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	so it's not really realisable as it is. but still nice.
Oct 18 19:58:16 <mircea_popescu>	what haters tho ? everyone's been very supportive since day one.
Oct 18 19:58:37 <thestringpuller>	like the people who trash you on the forums like children
Oct 18 19:58:42 <mircea_popescu>	eh the forum
Oct 18 19:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	half o' those dunno what day it is.
Oct 18 19:59:54 <thestringpuller>	qq real quick off topic sorta: why is s.dice illiquid atm?
Oct 18 20:00:09 <thestringpuller>	is it because of the last dividend payment?
Oct 18 20:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno
Oct 18 20:00:14 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 18 20:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00298094 / 0.0034 (1988753 shares, 5,928.36 BTC)
Oct 18 20:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	kinda weak huh.
Oct 18 20:00:29 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 18 20:00:37 <thestringpuller>	i was gonna try to market make
Oct 18 20:00:41 <thestringpuller>	but whats the point...
Oct 18 20:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	somebody had a nice analysis thread in forum, do you have a link ?
Oct 18 20:00:48 <mircea_popescu>	maybe the thing lost money on bets ?
Oct 18 20:00:52 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 18 20:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	o it did ?!
Oct 18 20:01:09 <thestringpuller>	no i meant o saw the link
Oct 18 20:01:10 <thestringpuller>	i*
Oct 18 20:01:13 <mircea_popescu>	a
Oct 18 20:01:20 <thestringpuller>	sorru thumb typing on phone
Oct 18 20:01:27 <thestringpuller>	typoes everywhere
Oct 18 20:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	anyway you need significant capital to mm that. it's a 400k-ish float object
Oct 18 20:01:36 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 18 20:02:22 <thestringpuller>	someone posted some numbers stating the roi on the sdice dividends is over a year
Oct 18 20:02:30 <thestringpuller>	maybe 2
Oct 18 20:02:45 <mircea_popescu>	what did it come to ? something like 5% ish ?
Oct 18 20:03:05 <thestringpuller>	lemme see
Oct 18 20:03:14 <thestringpuller>	its linkes to the ipo
Oct 18 20:03:17 <thestringpuller>	linked*
Oct 18 20:04:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/2Gyqt.png
Oct 18 20:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	ya seems to have retraced a little
Oct 18 20:04:41 <thestringpuller>	foubd it
Oct 18 20:04:57 <mircea_popescu>	i think many people buy/sell based on the immediate dividends expectation
Oct 18 20:05:47 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Oct 18 20:05:56 <Diablo-D3>	thats what pissed all the DMC shareholders off
Oct 18 20:06:09 <thestringpuller>	3200 btc investment in sdice is 27 btc a month in div
Oct 18 20:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	and since past few days it lost ~2k... i guess dividend doesn't look like much
Oct 18 20:06:12 <Diablo-D3>	they suddenly discovered DMC wasnt a scam and tried to get nefario to shut it down
Oct 18 20:06:22 <thestringpuller>	this guy out it at 118 month roi
Oct 18 20:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	so they're selling, taking a 15% loss on their capital investment to avoid a 3% unrealised gain
Oct 18 20:06:28 <thestringpuller>	put*
Oct 18 20:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller what's "118 month roi" mean ?
Oct 18 20:07:06 <thestringpuller>	118 month for full recoup on the initial investment
Oct 18 20:07:08 <Diablo-D3>	I assume 118 months to break even
Oct 18 20:07:14 <mircea_popescu>	that's such an insane metric.
Oct 18 20:07:15 <thestringpuller>	what he said
Oct 18 20:07:19 <thestringpuller>	i know
Oct 18 20:07:22 <thestringpuller>	:/
Oct 18 20:07:24 <Diablo-D3>	that metric doesnt make sense
Oct 18 20:07:28 <Diablo-D3>	because you still have the asset in the end
Oct 18 20:07:30 <mircea_popescu>	by this token, apple stock is like, "1978 month roi"
Oct 18 20:07:31 <mircea_popescu>	as if.
Oct 18 20:07:44 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: man, apple is such bullshit
Oct 18 20:07:48 <thestringpuller>	apple is predictable
Oct 18 20:07:49 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 bigger problem : do you think btc income will be as cheap in 12 months as it is today ?
Oct 18 20:07:52 <Diablo-D3>	its like what, $700 billion now?
Oct 18 20:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	look at the history. making a new btc used to cost <1 btc a year ago
Oct 18 20:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	now it's like 10
Oct 18 20:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	next year it could even be 30-50
Oct 18 20:08:09 <Diablo-D3>	they have lower $300 billion in assets, their brand is not worth the rest
Oct 18 20:08:27 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: dude, I sold a large chunk of btc when we crossed $1 thinking it would never cross that
Oct 18 20:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i know it's bullshit. i'd short it if i could guess when
Oct 18 20:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i know what you're saying.
Oct 18 20:08:50 <Diablo-D3>	then a year later it went to $30
Oct 18 20:08:57 <thestringpuller>	shorting is a useful tool
Oct 18 20:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	many of the early people were "usd parity ?! ?! ??!?!?! ridiculous!!!!!"
Oct 18 20:09:27 <thestringpuller>	but we know it will deflate over time
Oct 18 20:09:33 <thestringpuller>	if people keep usong it
Oct 18 20:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller that is what makes btc generators so valuable.
Oct 18 20:09:55 <thestringpuller>	miners hoard though
Oct 18 20:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	in 5 year's time (ie, 60 months) will you be willing to fight with the miners for a new 12 or 6 btc block ?
Oct 18 20:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	or will you just sit on your div-paying s.dice
Oct 18 20:10:29 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 18 20:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	(which meanwhile floated up to reflect the new competition in aquiring btc)
Oct 18 20:11:06 <thestringpuller>	thats like asking a guy would he rather go on a gold.expedition or get paid interest on a huge swiss bank account
Oct 18 20:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Oct 18 20:11:29 <mircea_popescu>	that's the angle i see for sdice. there's this revenue stream in pure btc. there's others, but they are dwindling.
Oct 18 20:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	well...
Oct 18 20:11:36 <thestringpuller>	damn btc is so fucking cool
Oct 18 20:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	i hear you lol.
Oct 18 20:11:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I dunno though, I find it sad the normal stock market makes sense to me but bitcoin doesnt
Oct 18 20:11:54 <thestringpuller>	microeconomics in a anarchoCapitalist society
Oct 18 20:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i wouldn't go as far as to say it makes sense to me.
Oct 18 20:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	i get moments of clarity.
Oct 18 20:12:17 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, I could make money on an average day if I was into that shit
Oct 18 20:12:25 <Diablo-D3>	also, if I had money to be into that shit :<
Oct 18 20:12:25 <thestringpuller>	btc market forces are different no banks
Oct 18 20:12:32 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: no
Oct 18 20:12:33 <Diablo-D3>	no volume
Oct 18 20:12:40 <thestringpuller>	there is vplume
Oct 18 20:12:47 <thestringpuller>	on mt gox at least
Oct 18 20:12:51 <thestringpuller>	not.like nyse
Oct 18 20:13:02 <thestringpuller>	but its more.money than most see in a lifetime
Oct 18 20:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 if you think in monetary mass terms then volume in btc IS HUGE.
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Oct 18 20:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	that 5k s.dice traded this month ? sure, it's "just" 60k
Oct 18 20:13:30 <mircea_popescu>	however, it 's .25% OF ALL THE MONETARY MASS
Oct 18 20:13:41 <thestringpuller>	which is hughe
Oct 18 20:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	find me a stock that trades 0.001%  of the usd monetary mass irl.
Oct 18 20:13:53 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 18 20:14:08 <thestringpuller>	maybe apple when they merge witb google and buy the nsa
Oct 18 20:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	so people have this bad reference of thinking in usd value. think M3%
Oct 18 20:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone here plays those rts games where there's like 8 or 100 players and king of the hill ?
Oct 18 20:14:57 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 18 20:14:58 <mircea_popescu>	that's kinda what btc is really. we're all vieing for a 21mn btc hill.
Oct 18 20:15:21 <thestringpuller>	but what if you cant buy spmething eoth btc
Oct 18 20:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	you can't buy anything with dst eiher
Oct 18 20:15:33 <thestringpuller>	you have to dump.it to.fiay
Oct 18 20:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	.g dst
Oct 18 20:15:52 <markac>	mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
Oct 18 20:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	pff
Oct 18 20:16:02 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 18 20:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	.g drepturi speciale de tragere
Oct 18 20:16:03 <markac>	mircea_popescu: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drepturi_speciale_de_tragere
Oct 18 20:16:13 <mircea_popescu>	XDR
Oct 18 20:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	there.
Oct 18 20:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_drawing_rights
Oct 18 20:16:43 <thestringpuller>	if manufacturers start accepting btc.there will be no need to dump
Oct 18 20:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller nah. i need to fucking get my physical delivery futures already
Oct 18 20:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	that will be the end of it.
Oct 18 20:17:26 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 18 20:17:59 <thestringpuller>	i feel as tho btc wll be the free iternet currency and will have liquidity to other currencies
Oct 18 20:18:11 <thestringpuller>	for the pjysical world
Oct 18 20:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	the internet-rl distinction is irrelevant from internet's pov.
Oct 18 20:18:54 <mircea_popescu>	it's like making a victorian society - "modern" society distinction cca 1880.
Oct 18 20:19:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00043535 = 8.4893 BTC [-]
Oct 18 20:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	it makes sense from the past pov, but from the future wtf does this "modern" mean. o, not like you're used to ? heh.
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Oct 18 20:20:31 <thestringpuller>	i have this awesome picture of the ecommerce clusterfuck
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Oct 18 20:20:56 <Diablo-D3>	[08:13:09] <mircea_popescu> Diablo-D3 if you think in monetary mass terms then volume in btc IS HUGE.
Oct 18 20:20:58 <Diablo-D3>	I meant glbse
Oct 18 20:21:02 <thestringpuller>	so maybe btc can replaxe ecommerce
Oct 18 20:21:05 <Diablo-D3>	btc volume, for what it is, is pretty big
Oct 18 20:21:23 <mircea_popescu>	too big, even.
Oct 18 20:21:36 <Diablo-D3>	its gigantic if you consider the fact we dont have an economy
Oct 18 20:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	ill feel a lot better about my options once mtgox volume permanently stabilizes under 10k a day
Oct 18 20:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	(esp if dollar value stays equal or > to today)
Oct 18 20:21:55 <thestringpuller>	ecommerce cost about 7% per transaction at the end of the day
Oct 18 20:21:59 <Diablo-D3>	I assume you mean week average per day
Oct 18 20:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i mean less than a day per month with over 10k
Oct 18 20:22:23 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller depends, some places its even 10
Oct 18 20:22:23 <Diablo-D3>	monday and friday always have retard traffic
Oct 18 20:22:27 <Diablo-D3>	HURR IMMA DAY TRADERRRRRRR
Oct 18 20:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 18 20:22:40 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 18 20:22:42 <thestringpuller>	bdt
Oct 18 20:22:47 <thestringpuller>	what a fkasco
Oct 18 20:22:52 <thestringpuller>	we need more smart businesses
Oct 18 20:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	its so sad mtgox missed the change to be called derpox
Oct 18 20:23:09 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: jesus christ
Oct 18 20:23:17 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: how do you feel about bitinstant?
Oct 18 20:23:21 <Diablo-D3>	we'd have an influx of /b/tards and bronies
Oct 18 20:23:36 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller they're the ppl trying to get a card going, neh ?
Oct 18 20:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 o, and now we don't.
Oct 18 20:23:55 <Diablo-D3>	I'd like to believe we dont :<
Oct 18 20:24:09 <thestringpuller>	yea they are
Oct 18 20:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 that's the problem with you :D
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Oct 18 20:24:20 <Diablo-D3>	sometimes I venture into other parts of the forum and dont like what I see
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Oct 18 20:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller hey, unless it somehow blows up in their face its a good thing i think
Oct 18 20:24:38 <Diablo-D3>	well
Oct 18 20:24:43 <Diablo-D3>	have you seen the bitinstant fee schedule?
Oct 18 20:24:43 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Oct 18 20:24:44 <Diablo-D3>	its hueg
Oct 18 20:24:49 <thestringpuller>	yea its.fucked up
Oct 18 20:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	i havent looked
Oct 18 20:24:50 <Diablo-D3>	so yeah, I think its legit and safe
Oct 18 20:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	i don't much use ccs
Oct 18 20:25:00 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: ->paypal, 6% + paypal fees
Oct 18 20:25:06 <thestringpuller>	4% for cash deposit
Oct 18 20:25:18 <mircea_popescu>	so what exactly is their value proposition ?
Oct 18 20:25:26 <Diablo-D3>	they dont report you to the IRS.
Oct 18 20:25:31 <Diablo-D3>	or homeland security or whoever
Oct 18 20:25:32 <thestringpuller>	instant deposits into exhanges
Oct 18 20:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaha
Oct 18 20:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	riight.
Oct 18 20:25:44 <Diablo-D3>	well, they may REPORT you
Oct 18 20:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	cause nobody asked them so far
Oct 18 20:25:47 <Diablo-D3>	but thye dont know your name
Oct 18 20:25:58 <thestringpuller>	you can have cash -> btc in 10.minutes
Oct 18 20:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller something lik that may be worth 10%
Oct 18 20:26:23 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 18 20:26:27 <thestringpuller>	ima do the oppositr
Oct 18 20:26:28 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Oct 18 20:26:33 <Diablo-D3>	they're pretty fast at what they do
Oct 18 20:26:46 <thestringpuller>	btc -> cash in 10 min
Oct 18 20:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller im sure that'd have value
Oct 18 20:27:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 255 @ 0.00339997 = 0.867 BTC [+]
Oct 18 20:27:30 <thestringpuller>	i hope so im launching closed beta this saturday
Oct 18 20:27:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 545 @ 0.00339998 = 1.853 BTC [+]
Oct 18 20:27:37 <thestringpuller>	whoop whoop
Oct 18 20:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	o srsly ? what currencies ?
Oct 18 20:28:18 <thestringpuller>	usd for now. then euros
Oct 18 20:28:36 <thestringpuller>	then whatever demand asks for
Oct 18 20:29:01 <thestringpuller>	gonna use.moneygram/western union as the insts transaction
Oct 18 20:29:04 <thestringpuller>	insta*
Oct 18 20:29:08 <Diablo-D3>	surprised they dont try a chinese version
Oct 18 20:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	i think dbordello does something like this currently.
Oct 18 20:29:29 <mircea_popescu>	via moneypak iirc
Oct 18 20:29:36 <thestringpuller>	fastcash4bitcoins?
Oct 18 20:29:42 <thestringpuller>	oh btcpak
Oct 18 20:29:44 <Diablo-D3>	I wish github would hurry up
Oct 18 20:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 you know i have a bunch of chinese people on mpex ?
Oct 18 20:30:05 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: orly?
Oct 18 20:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	very intelligent crowd.
Oct 18 20:30:19 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, chinese money men scare me
Oct 18 20:30:27 <mircea_popescu>	one dood was whining about having to keep move strings from cold to hot computer
Oct 18 20:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	then in the next email was o, wait, i figured it. i got a qr generator! now my phone can read it
Oct 18 20:30:52 <Diablo-D3>	_hah_
Oct 18 20:31:00 <Diablo-D3>	thats an interesting way of solving the jew diamond problem
Oct 18 20:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	and this was like, 3 days after i explained gpg to him. understand, guy didn't even know linux existed on like, the 5th
Oct 18 20:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	then on the 9th was figuring qr on his own
Oct 18 20:31:16 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: wtf!
Oct 18 20:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	i AM SERIOUS
Oct 18 20:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	dude, i have to explain things like ONCE, and in passing
Oct 18 20:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	i think they read my emails > 500 times each.
Oct 18 20:31:33 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 18 20:31:33 <Diablo-D3>	this is where I say Ive been using linux for almost 15 years and have not looked back
Oct 18 20:31:57 <thestringpuller>	i started on dos
Oct 18 20:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	the difference is shocking, they've all read the faq etc.
Oct 18 20:32:05 <Diablo-D3>	I started on dos too
Oct 18 20:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	dr dos!
Oct 18 20:32:17 <dub>	pff younguns
Oct 18 20:32:22 <thestringpuller>	brb mircea_popescu will you be around later? id love to pick your brain some more. your info is invaluable
Oct 18 20:32:27 <Diablo-D3>	ms dos 2.11 on a 6mhz 8086, 640kb of memory after upgrade
Oct 18 20:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	dub twyms.
Oct 18 20:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller possibly, yea. but if not... im on pretty much daily.
Oct 18 20:32:49 <Diablo-D3>	single floppy drive, no modem, no harddrive (which were like 20mb and the size of the computer, even came in matching case)
Oct 18 20:32:55 <thestringpuller>	cool
Oct 18 20:32:57 <thestringpuller>	later all
Oct 18 20:33:15 <dub>	I remember my first floppy drive
Oct 18 20:33:39 <Diablo-D3>	5.25", 360kb
Oct 18 20:33:42 <dub>	no more programming whatever you needed again every time you turn the computer on
Oct 18 20:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	dub they had old 7inch ones in my computer lab at school, wall decoration
Oct 18 20:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	early 90s
Oct 18 20:34:11 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: hah, ever see those gigantic hard drive platters?
Oct 18 20:34:22 <mircea_popescu>	yeah lol.
Oct 18 20:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	actually, i typed on a cardpuncher, aged like 5.
Oct 18 20:34:34 <Diablo-D3>	recycle center around here had one, kept it as art
Oct 18 20:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	(i'm not making this shit up, my dad was working in a govt research center)
Oct 18 20:34:50 <Diablo-D3>	it was like 15 feet tall
Oct 18 20:34:59 <dub>	mircea_popescu must be old
Oct 18 20:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	a these weren't so big. those cabinet thingees.
Oct 18 20:35:11 <Diablo-D3>	yeah it was some like 70s shit
Oct 18 20:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub not rally, just romania was behind the times :D
Oct 18 20:35:16 <dub>	I had a computer in '83
Oct 18 20:35:18 <mircea_popescu>	.g felix computer
Oct 18 20:35:18 <markac>	mircea_popescu: http://www.felixpc.com/
Oct 18 20:35:29 <Diablo-D3>	dub: I was born in 1983 so :<
Oct 18 20:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	.wik felix computer
Oct 18 20:35:31 <markac>	"Felix is an open source programming language which provides an ML style type system with a syntax that C++ programmers should find easy to learn." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_(programming_language)
Oct 18 20:35:31 <dub>	that was well into the PC era though
Oct 18 20:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	jesus forgotten ;/
Oct 18 20:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_PC << romanian made pc clone.
Oct 18 20:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	1985.
Oct 18 20:36:42 <dub>	I used to buy games in a book
Oct 18 20:37:00 <Diablo-D3>	hah, I still have one of those books
Oct 18 20:37:02 <dub>	you typed out the code, played game once
Oct 18 20:37:07 <dub>	never bother again
Oct 18 20:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	dub early 90s romanian tv station used to have a computer show
Oct 18 20:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	they literally broadcast the code. you could load it into a z80 with a cable
Oct 18 20:37:56 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: lol cassete drive audio
Oct 18 20:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	beee-beeeep trdhgkjdfhkjghehekrjghe
Oct 18 20:38:06 <Diablo-D3>	*cassette
Oct 18 20:38:08 <dub>	thats actually quite cool
Oct 18 20:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Oct 18 20:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	half the time it was like... cracked programs too
Oct 18 20:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	i got saboteur that way
Oct 18 20:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	.g saboteur z80
Oct 18 20:38:41 <markac>	mircea_popescu: http://www.juegaenlaweb.es/spectrum/
Oct 18 20:38:45 <Diablo-D3>	woah
Oct 18 20:38:50 <Diablo-D3>	newsweek is ending publication
Oct 18 20:38:51 <Diablo-D3>	fuck yeah
Oct 18 20:39:10 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu had the same thing here, only via FM radio
Oct 18 20:39:12 <dub>	early copy protection wanst exactly hard to beat
Oct 18 20:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	dub unlike current ? :D
Oct 18 20:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla haha cool
Oct 18 20:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	now i wanna hear that header sound once more ;/
Oct 18 20:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	wonder if youtube has it
Oct 18 20:40:36 <Diablo-D3>	man
Oct 18 20:40:39 <Diablo-D3>	you know what I miss?
Oct 18 20:40:47 <Diablo-D3>	having to look in the manual for a phrase
Oct 18 20:40:52 <Diablo-D3>	to continue the game
Oct 18 20:40:59 <Diablo-D3>	and fuck, I miss _manuals_
Oct 18 20:41:07 <Diablo-D3>	some games came with thick fucking tomes
Oct 18 20:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 manuals sucked.
Oct 18 20:41:22 <Diablo-D3>	loaded with art and other shit
Oct 18 20:41:27 <dub>	then there was teh decoder rings
Oct 18 20:41:41 <kakobrekla>	hehe i got the best manual ever with my new router lemme take a pic
Oct 18 20:41:55 <dub>	lots of engrish?
Oct 18 20:42:10 <Diablo-D3>	Ive gotten electronics with no manual
Oct 18 20:42:17 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, not like pdf on cd or go online or something
Oct 18 20:42:19 <Diablo-D3>	there was _nothing_
Oct 18 20:42:32 <Diablo-D3>	which is great, it didnt need one either
Oct 18 20:42:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUsNesaB0Ms hahah
Oct 18 20:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWKNWgNwLA << ok, this. this WAS THE FUCKING SOUND OF HAPPINESS
Oct 18 20:45:11 <Diablo-D3>	oh hai, Ive heard this before
Oct 18 20:45:35 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Oct 18 20:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQOB7wFxSmY this was saboteur
Oct 18 20:45:50 <kakobrekla>	a there it is, very thick http://shrani.si/f/3r/x5/4aNMls9T/imag0228.jpg
Oct 18 20:45:56 <kakobrekla>	'enterprise' grade stuff.
Oct 18 20:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol. easy!
Oct 18 20:47:18 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Oct 18 20:47:20 <dub>	a lot of people actually like microtik too
Oct 18 20:47:22 <kakobrekla>	wasnt expecting that
Oct 18 20:47:34 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLH3I9QuSCM
Oct 18 20:47:39 <kakobrekla>	yeah its great stuff
Oct 18 20:47:41 <dub>	I know of at least one ISP that uses them, and not for CE shit
Oct 18 20:47:42 <kakobrekla>	very pleased
Oct 18 20:48:28 <Diablo-D3>	you know, I'd like to watch a version of dune like this
Oct 18 20:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 why covered tits?
Oct 18 20:51:38 <dub>	oh wow another dune?
Oct 18 20:52:15 <dub>	is it animated?
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Oct 18 20:52:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00043564 = 0.3485 BTC [+]
Oct 18 20:55:11 <Diablo-D3>	dub: its not real
Oct 18 20:55:24 <Diablo-D3>	I wish it was
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Oct 18 20:58:11 <dub>	I drag out and watch the '84 and '00 movies every couple of years, never gets old
Oct 18 21:00:12 <dub>	actually reminds me, I think there might be some 'prequil' books I havent read yet
Oct 18 21:01:20 <kakobrekla>	any title for the movie'
Oct 18 21:05:04 <dub>	uh, dune
Oct 18 21:06:49 <dub>	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087182/ and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142032/
Oct 18 21:13:44 <vampireb>	dune games were awesome
Oct 18 21:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	dune 1 sucked ass
Oct 18 21:15:26 <vampireb>	meh i liked it, dune 2 was much better
Oct 18 21:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	dune 2 kicked ass. invented a new genre for sure
Oct 18 21:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00043754 = 13.17 BTC [+]
Oct 18 21:18:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00043564 = 6.9267 BTC [-]
Oct 18 21:20:00 <dub>	was too bought into RA1 for that shit
Oct 18 21:20:37 <dub>	48 hour ps1 linkup games
Oct 18 21:21:49 <dub>	probably somethign to do with not having a pc
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Oct 18 21:31:11 <thestringpuller>	the channel is alive again
Oct 18 21:31:31 <dub>	oh yeah, I played dune2
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Oct 18 21:40:29 <Diablo-D3>	https://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/fake-grimlock-server-on-fire.jpg?w=558&h=9999&crop=0
Oct 18 21:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.0004349 = 1.6091 BTC [-]
Oct 18 21:52:45 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you still around?
Oct 18 21:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Oct 18 21:55:31 <thestringpuller>	sweet
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Oct 18 22:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14844 @ 0.0004349 = 6.4557 BTC [-]
Oct 18 22:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00043455 = 12.515 BTC [-]
Oct 18 22:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10256 @ 0.00043225 = 4.4332 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 22:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller did you have something in mind ?
Oct 18 22:11:26 <thestringpuller>	i was driving
Oct 18 22:11:37 <thestringpuller>	worked late
Oct 18 22:11:47 <thestringpuller>	lemme grab a keyboard amd a chair and we will talk
Oct 18 22:12:38 <thestringpuller>	AHhhhhhhh... much better.
Oct 18 22:12:49 <thestringpuller>	Nothing like a good 'ol qwerty keyboard.
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Oct 18 22:17:00 <dub>	Satoshi reaches next level in 0 days, 22:22:00.
Oct 18 22:17:05 *	dub invites ddos
Oct 18 22:18:05 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu, i want to do the withdrawal version of BitInstant, allow for people to send a service BTC's (like fastcash4bitcoins.com) and sends out moneygrams within 10 minutes. The only thing is padding the fees
Oct 18 22:19:01 <thestringpuller>	I read some literature on "free as a value proposition" and in order to pad an expense of a service that is free, you have to have something else to make up for it
Oct 18 22:19:27 <thestringpuller>	I can't seem to figure out a way to do that with money gram fees (dey such a monopoly)
Oct 18 22:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Oct 18 22:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	i would think your greater problem would be handling money flows.
Oct 18 22:30:40 <thestringpuller>	that's handled
Oct 18 22:30:56 *	thestringpuller works for a credit card processor, using their ip lol
Oct 18 22:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol. i meant legally.
Oct 18 22:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	you'll be getting tons of money in and out.
Oct 18 22:33:02 <thestringpuller>	you talking AML?
Oct 18 22:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	that money service business stuff
Oct 18 22:33:53 <vampireb>	open a company, apply for MBS license
Oct 18 22:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29354 @ 0.00043291 = 12.7076 BTC [+]
Oct 18 22:36:10 <thestringpuller>	can't I just write one of https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/Terms.aspx these
Oct 18 22:37:09 <mircea_popescu>	you really shouldn't be going into something like this w/o a lawyer partner.
Oct 18 22:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	too many things to fugde up.
Oct 18 22:37:32 <vampireb>	or go offshore
Oct 18 22:37:49 <thestringpuller>	my investor has lawyers on retainer
Oct 18 22:37:57 <thestringpuller>	so all the nitty legal stuff is covered
Oct 18 22:38:01 <thestringpuller>	kinda lucked out
Oct 18 22:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	well then you should ask them lol
Oct 18 22:38:17 <thestringpuller>	lol (writes it down)
Oct 18 22:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	run your plan by them, see what they say
Oct 18 22:38:23 <thestringpuller>	okay so what about padding the fees?
Oct 18 22:38:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Oct 18 22:38:41 <thestringpuller>	I don't think lawyers will have advice on that
Oct 18 22:38:45 <mircea_popescu>	(well, basically, i will be taking lots of money in (from mtgox ?) and doling it out to many people who paid me btc. what do i do to make it legal ?)
Oct 18 22:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	a, the fees.
Oct 18 22:39:21 <mircea_popescu>	hm.
Oct 18 22:40:51 <thestringpuller>	for M between 5-50 bucks it 5 dollar fee 55-200 it's 12 dollars 200-500ish it's ~19
Oct 18 22:41:03 <thestringpuller>	for moneygram*
Oct 18 22:41:11 <thestringpuller>	damn expensive :\
Oct 18 22:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	do cash in mail for < 100 ?
Oct 18 22:42:42 <thestringpuller>	hmm, that's 1-2 days vs 10 minutes
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Oct 18 22:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Oct 18 22:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	a sticky issue.
Oct 18 22:44:10 <thestringpuller>	only if i were google
Oct 18 22:44:24 <thestringpuller>	they were able to make gmail free because of their ad revenue
Oct 18 22:45:58 <mircea_popescu>	well man... this is one of those problems that'll make the solver rich
Oct 18 22:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	and meanwhile litter the fields with dead companies.
Oct 18 22:46:43 <thestringpuller>	i'ma find away
Oct 18 23:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00043515 = 3.9599 BTC [+]
Oct 18 23:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4365 @ 0.00043721 = 1.9084 BTC [+]
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Oct 18 23:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.00043397 = 20.0494 BTC [-]
Oct 18 23:26:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10292 @ 0.00043291 = 4.4555 BTC [-]
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Oct 18 23:39:50 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i've crunched numbers for like an hour
Oct 18 23:40:09 <thestringpuller>	the best I can do is 10% which is outrageous :\
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Oct 18 23:51:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1435 @ 0.00043721 = 0.6274 BTC [+]
Oct 19 00:16:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00044 = 0.264 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 00:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20379 @ 0.00043897 = 8.9458 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 01:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19921 @ 0.00043577 = 8.681 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 01:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00044 = 3.212 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 02:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17379 @ 0.00043782 = 7.6089 BTC [-]
Oct 19 02:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8964 @ 0.00043531 = 3.9021 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 02:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40236 @ 0.00043531 = 17.5151 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 02:51:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9764 @ 0.00043471 = 4.2445 BTC [-]
Oct 19 02:51:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00043734 = 13.8637 BTC [+]
Oct 19 02:51:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9036 @ 0.00044 = 3.9758 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 03:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00043463 = 6.5629 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 03:41:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12836 @ 0.00044 = 5.6478 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 04:06:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00043463 = 16.0378 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 04:14:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500000 @ 0.00044 = 220 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 04:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00043463 = 1.9993 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 05:05:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00043314 = 2.0358 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 05:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00043314 = 6.5404 BTC [-]
Oct 19 05:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1532 @ 0.00043415 = 0.6651 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 05:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13899 @ 0.00043496 = 6.0455 BTC [+]
Oct 19 05:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17601 @ 0.00044 = 7.7444 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 06:13:30 <EskimoBob>	"money gram" ? What is that?
Oct 19 06:19:21 <EskimoBob>	.estimate 290
Oct 19 06:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00044 = 23.716 BTC [+]
Oct 19 06:49:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00043453 = 1.7381 BTC [-]
Oct 19 06:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29768 @ 0.00043417 = 12.9244 BTC [-]
Oct 19 06:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5632 @ 0.00043291 = 2.4381 BTC [-]
Oct 19 06:57:38 <EskimoBob>	is GLBSE sending out double payments?
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Oct 19 07:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4473 @ 0.00043789 = 1.9587 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 07:39:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yes EskimBob
Oct 19 07:40:02 <Chaang-Noi>	EskimoBob   they have for some not all
Oct 19 07:40:13 <Chaang-Noi>	and its odd cuz they only ahve enought to pay 90% anyway
Oct 19 07:40:29 <Chaang-Noi>	some get 100% some get 90% some get 1805 and some get 0%
Oct 19 07:40:38 <Chaang-Noi>	180%
Oct 19 07:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6497 @ 0.00043291 = 2.8126 BTC [-]
Oct 19 07:40:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41203 @ 0.00043229 = 17.8116 BTC [-]
Oct 19 07:40:56 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos and other owners will ahve to cover the losses
Oct 19 07:41:08 <Chaang-Noi>	what a fail boat glbse has turned into
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Oct 19 08:06:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00043499 = 1.479 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 08:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45400 @ 0.0004345 = 19.7263 BTC [-]
Oct 19 08:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3927 @ 0.00043789 = 1.7196 BTC [+]
Oct 19 08:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6073 @ 0.00044 = 2.6721 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 08:57:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22630 @ 0.00043506 = 9.8454 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 09:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00043573 = 6.0131 BTC [+]
Oct 19 09:23:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9670 @ 0.00043506 = 4.207 BTC [-]
Oct 19 09:23:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3630 @ 0.00043435 = 1.5767 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 09:33:54 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: it just absurd. All they had to do was keep the damn thing open but close trading except issuer<->client
Oct 19 09:34:07 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah...
Oct 19 09:34:12 <Chaang-Noi>	its a fial boat im glad im not on
Oct 19 09:34:26 <EskimoBob>	i guess there is always at least 2 wasy to resolve problems, right, correct and everything else
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Oct 19 09:35:19 <EskimoBob>	rats do not like sinking boats... theymos khmkk....
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Oct 19 09:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00043549 = 12.6728 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 10:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00043549 = 6.2275 BTC [+]
Oct 19 10:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21112 @ 0.00043538 = 9.1917 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 10:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	what's this double payments thing ?!
Oct 19 10:41:11 <thestringpuller>	nefario being dumb
Oct 19 10:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4620 @ 0.00043538 = 2.0115 BTC [-]
Oct 19 10:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	OK, I stand corrected. And if you prefer lulz over doing some research how exactly MPOE is financed, then sorry, I'll rather leave any further discussion to MPOE-PR .
Oct 19 10:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	^^ jurov ahaha
Oct 19 10:43:10 <thestringpuller>	forums is blowin up?
Oct 19 10:43:32 <mircea_popescu>	just a little lolz
Oct 19 10:43:36 <thestringpuller>	ive stopped checking them since I discovered usagi is incompetent
Oct 19 10:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118679.msg1281743#msg1281743
Oct 19 10:45:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE
Oct 19 10:45:18 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty cool
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Oct 19 10:46:19 <thestringpuller>	yea
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Oct 19 10:46:24 <thestringpuller>	he used google.charts
Oct 19 10:46:42 <thestringpuller>	can we have access to historical mpex data?
Oct 19 10:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	the twitter feed ? or what data you mean ?
Oct 19 10:53:11 <jcpham>	dolphin sex
Oct 19 10:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	that data is spermanently pealed.
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Oct 19 11:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22068 @ 0.00043538 = 9.608 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 11:07:05 <thestringpuller>	permanently pealed?
Oct 19 11:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	sealed lol
Oct 19 11:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	it's a multipun.
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Oct 19 11:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 732 @ 0.00043519 = 0.3186 BTC [-]
Oct 19 11:17:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53764 @ 0.00043626 = 23.4551 BTC [+]
Oct 19 11:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00043715 = 16.568 BTC [+]
Oct 19 11:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7604 @ 0.00044 = 3.3458 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 11:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00044 = 15.884 BTC [+]
Oct 19 11:44:02 <BTC-Mining>	So... who's advocating that people keep the double payment for themselve?
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Oct 19 11:45:15 <BTC-Mining>	Doesn't seems to be the answer to me.
Oct 19 11:45:59 <BTC-Mining>	Kind of taking your personal grudge against Nefario and venging yourself at the detriment of others who are waiting for their funds.
Oct 19 11:46:26 <BTC-Mining>	Even if yes, most have zero trust in Nefario.
Oct 19 11:55:02 <Chaaang-Noi>	theymos said peole should keep the double payments and not give back to nefario
Oct 19 11:55:14 <Chaaang-Noi>	however theymos gave a guy a scammers tag just for that months ago
Oct 19 11:55:23 <Chaaang-Noi>	theymos... oh man, he has turned out to be a scummy fuck
Oct 19 11:57:09 <BTC-Mining>	Well what do you know... anonymous people...
Oct 19 11:57:27 <BTC-Mining>	Is he well known other than as theymos?
Oct 19 11:59:03 <Chaaang-Noi>	people i dont trust, mt gox, nefario now theymos...
Oct 19 11:59:17 <Chaaang-Noi>	gavin i am not happy about cuz of the name of his foundation.. but other than that fine
Oct 19 11:59:22 <Chaaang-Noi>	cassicuss is still cool...
Oct 19 11:59:25 <Chaaang-Noi>	but man...
Oct 19 11:59:46 <BTC-Mining>	Well, it does look like it was an "official" foundation
Oct 19 11:59:47 <Chaaang-Noi>	no one left to trust or work with really
Oct 19 12:00:00 <Chaaang-Noi>	then it should not be called "the bitcoin foundation"
Oct 19 12:00:08 <Chaaang-Noi>	im fine he has a foundation, and i want him to have one
Oct 19 12:00:19 <Chaaang-Noi>	just dont call it "the bitcoin foundation"
Oct 19 12:00:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	cuz all it is is the mt gox and bitinstant foundation to pay gavin...
Oct 19 12:00:32 <BTC-Mining>	But I mean, most open source project have an "official" foundation which is not technically... well official at all.
Oct 19 12:00:44 <Chaaang-Noi>	i dont like the name
Oct 19 12:00:54 <Chaaang-Noi>	it really pisses me off
Oct 19 12:01:06 <Chaaang-Noi>	not eveny one agres with me
Oct 19 12:01:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	every
Oct 19 12:01:51 <BTC-Mining>	Well, as the core devs seems to be participating... they're already kind of making things themselve anyway to start with. And been doing a great job.
Oct 19 12:01:53 <BTC-Mining>	I'm a bit annoyed but don't mind the name too much.
Oct 19 12:02:23 <BTC-Mining>	The thing is, no one can enforce it and someone will eventually try to claim "Bitcoin Foundation"
Oct 19 12:02:40 <Chaaang-Noi>	the should hold the name so no one will use it
Oct 19 12:02:44 <Chaaang-Noi>	but they should not use it
Oct 19 12:03:00 <BTC-Mining>	If they don't use it, they can't hold the name...
Oct 19 12:03:07 <BTC-Mining>	They need to establish it.
Oct 19 12:03:24 <BTC-Mining>	Better be the core dev establishing it before some random person makes literal claims to be the official Bitcoin Foundation
Oct 19 12:04:04 <BTC-Mining>	Would be hard to have "Bitcoin Foundation" registered and enforced in every damn country
Oct 19 12:04:16 <BTC-Mining>	and the devs don't have the resource for that anyway.
Oct 19 12:05:03 <BTC-Mining>	It's a wrong doing more good than harm to me. Especially if they establish with the name but keep the claim not to be the official foundation.
Oct 19 12:05:30 <Chaaang-Noi>	i understand your point
Oct 19 12:06:08 <Chaaang-Noi>	i think they should have set up two differnt foundations then
Oct 19 12:06:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	one that more or less did nothing but hold that name
Oct 19 12:06:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	id support that with money
Oct 19 12:07:01 <BTC-Mining>	Donating to get the name enforced would be a solution.
Oct 19 12:07:16 <BTC-Mining>	Registration might be challenged however.
Oct 19 12:07:30 <BTC-Mining>	It might not be copyrightable
Oct 19 12:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8022 @ 0.00043658 = 3.5022 BTC [-]
Oct 19 12:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34078 @ 0.00043615 = 14.8631 BTC [-]
Oct 19 12:07:42 <BTC-Mining>	Everywhere
Oct 19 12:11:39 <BTC-Mining>	I see people blindly attacking every authority on thinking and claims basically saying it's all wrong because it doesn't advantage them personally when other takes initiatives for themselves or others. Somehow it should always be for them. Yes there's corruption all around the world, but the majority of people in a position of authority knows what they're doing, have perfectly good
Oct 19 12:11:40 <BTC-Mining>	reasons to do what they do and are not corrupted. I don't always have the same priorities as them, but I don't go around blindly attacking everyone.</rant>
Oct 19 12:13:12 <TomServo>	Chaaang-Noi: Just curious, why don't you trust Mt Gox?
Oct 19 12:14:04 <BTC-Mining>	You know, those kind of people that if you'd not claim said authority was innocent or to be agreeing with them, but simply even suggesting there's no proof of anything or bringing forth any reasoning to it, you're automatically part of them and should be publicly executed?
Oct 19 12:14:08 <Chaaang-Noi>	they locked down a significant amount of my money and demanded i send in all sorts of docs
Oct 19 12:14:18 <Chaaang-Noi>	like address passport wedding certificat
Oct 19 12:14:21 <Chaaang-Noi>	bills
Oct 19 12:14:26 <Chaaang-Noi>	like loads of crazy shit
Oct 19 12:14:32 <BTC-Mining>	To only slightly exagerate... yes, that kind of persons... drives me nut.
Oct 19 12:14:41 <TomServo>	Ahh, well yeah, I suppose that would do it.
Oct 19 12:15:48 <BTC-Mining>	Chaaang-Noi, I'd expect that from any regulated financial service
Oct 19 12:16:00 <Chaaang-Noi>	wedding certificate?
Oct 19 12:16:01 <BTC-Mining>	To do it at some point with enough volume
Oct 19 12:16:18 <Chaaang-Noi>	translated and then certified?
Oct 19 12:16:18 <BTC-Mining>	Maybe. I don't know their local laws and requirements.
Oct 19 12:16:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	they are in japan
Oct 19 12:16:30 <Chaaang-Noi>	they did not have to do that
Oct 19 12:16:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	there was a thread on it
Oct 19 12:16:38 <TomServo>	I would expect it going in.. if it wasn't there to begin with I would agree doing it retroactively is suspect.
Oct 19 12:16:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	like 3 of them
Oct 19 12:16:59 <Chaaang-Noi>	mark called claimed on the forum he had proof i was a "terrorest or money launder"
Oct 19 12:17:01 <BTC-Mining>	Well, I don't consider bitcointalk.org as a good source of legal advice.
Oct 19 12:17:19 <BTC-Mining>	uh?
Oct 19 12:17:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	no i checked with my bank and my family lawyer
Oct 19 12:17:31 <BTC-Mining>	Well, odd...
Oct 19 12:17:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	they said i could sue for him making it public there was an AML investigation
Oct 19 12:17:40 <Chaaang-Noi>	he broke the law
Oct 19 12:17:48 <BTC-Mining>	That's bad.
Oct 19 12:17:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	i knoew
Oct 19 12:17:53 <Chaaang-Noi>	i know
Oct 19 12:18:01 <Chaaang-Noi>	it was a huge drama about 10 months ago
Oct 19 12:18:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	locked my shit down and said he had proof!
Oct 19 12:18:31 <Chaaang-Noi>	month later said the case was closed and i got my money
Oct 19 12:18:33 <Chaaang-Noi>	so much for proof
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Oct 19 12:33:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 266 @ 0.00043615 = 0.116 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 12:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00043509 = 12.6611 BTC [-]
Oct 19 12:59:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00043435 = 0.4344 BTC [-]
Oct 19 13:00:32 <midnightmagic>	The wedding certificate was because your wife was active in your account wasn't she?
Oct 19 13:00:43 <midnightmagic>	It wasn't just "hey gimme your wedding certificate" totally out of the blue?
Oct 19 13:01:16 <midnightmagic>	Also, did your lawyer tell you he broke the law *of Japan*?
Oct 19 13:01:58 <midnightmagic>	Like, specifically.. of Japan.. the place where he's operating in.
Oct 19 13:03:30 <midnightmagic>	And what language, specifically, did he use when he said he had "proof"? Or are you paraphrasing again?
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Oct 19 13:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21037 @ 0.00043805 = 9.2153 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 14:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63 @ 0.00043805 = 0.0276 BTC [+]
Oct 19 14:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47025 @ 0.00044 = 20.691 BTC [+]
Oct 19 14:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37700 @ 0.00044 = 16.588 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 15:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13002 @ 0.00043676 = 5.6788 BTC [-]
Oct 19 15:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00043535 = 0.3047 BTC [-]
Oct 19 15:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41098 @ 0.0004353 = 17.89 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 16:24:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 270 @ 0.00043435 = 0.1173 BTC [-]
Oct 19 16:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00043397 = 7.1605 BTC [-]
Oct 19 16:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.0004327 = 0.9519 BTC [-]
Oct 19 16:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19041 @ 0.00043235 = 8.2324 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 16:31:01 <kakobrekla>	howdy
Oct 19 16:39:58 <jurov>	hi
Oct 19 16:40:21 <jurov>	can someone test loading time of http://live.coinbr.com ?
Oct 19 16:40:47 <jurov>	i suspect it's faster than mtgoxlive nao
Oct 19 16:42:02 <FabianB>	jurov: yeah, definitely is faster (but didn't do proper testing)
Oct 19 16:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24259 @ 0.00043235 = 10.4884 BTC [-]
Oct 19 16:51:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3097 @ 0.00043229 = 1.3388 BTC [-]
Oct 19 16:51:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28344 @ 0.00043225 = 12.2517 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 17:04:49 <smickles>	omg no internet sucks
Oct 19 17:05:05 <smickles>	im sshing on my phone
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Oct 19 17:13:44 <Diablo-D3>	so when can we get goat a scammer tag?
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Oct 19 17:14:58 <smickles>	jurov, only the two mpsics right now?
Oct 19 17:15:46 <jurov>	even on S.DICE there isn't much interesting to see, others are even worse
Oct 19 17:16:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11935 @ 0.00043225 = 5.1589 BTC [-]
Oct 19 17:16:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42165 @ 0.00043196 = 18.2136 BTC [-]
Oct 19 17:16:58 <smickles>	i concede that is likely true
Oct 19 17:18:41 <kakobrekla>	what did he do now Diablo-D3
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Oct 19 17:22:36 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: arguing nefario shouldnt be scammer tagged because the reason isnt because goat is a rape victim
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Oct 19 17:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1435 @ 0.00043196 = 0.6199 BTC [-]
Oct 19 17:42:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00043193 = 2.1165 BTC [-]
Oct 19 17:42:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00043178 = 1.1226 BTC [-]
Oct 19 17:42:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18582 @ 0.00043168 = 8.0215 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 17:55:42 <dub>	wat
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Oct 19 18:08:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00043555 = 9.5821 BTC [+]
Oct 19 18:08:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00043601 = 0.436 BTC [+]
Oct 19 18:14:51 <thestringpuller>	anyone seen smickles?
Oct 19 18:15:13 <kakobrekla>	23:04.52 ( smickles ) omg no internet sucks
Oct 19 18:15:13 <kakobrekla>	23:05.08 ( smickles ) im sshing on my phone
Oct 19 18:15:37 <thestringpuller>	date?
Oct 19 18:15:50 <kakobrekla>	1hrs ago
Oct 19 18:15:52 <kakobrekla>	-s
Oct 19 18:16:05 <thestringpuller>	oh snap
Oct 19 18:16:10 <thestringpuller>	missed him :/
Oct 19 18:17:08 <thestringpuller>	whats up
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Oct 19 18:39:03 <thestringpuller>	where is everyone...
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Oct 19 18:39:07 <thestringpuller>	ghost town
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Oct 19 18:40:46 <rg>	hehe
Oct 19 18:41:30 <dub>	get out the ghost lube
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Oct 19 18:43:09 <thestringpuller>	rg you never answered my question. :( sadface
Oct 19 18:43:43 <rg>	what was the question
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Oct 19 18:46:20 <thestringpuller>	rg: would you use a btc bill paying service if it existed
Oct 19 18:47:03 <rg>	sure
Oct 19 18:47:05 <rg>	definitely
Oct 19 18:48:25 <thestringpuller>	do you know of any other potential customers?
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Oct 19 19:05:57 <BTC-Mining>	What is wrong with people?
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Oct 19 19:06:50 <BTC-Mining>	They want to keep the doubled payment they received from GLBSE, justifying it as Nefario deserving it.
Oct 19 19:07:28 <thestringpuller>	they dumb
Oct 19 19:07:48 <Azelphur>	I'll -10 anyone who is confirmed to be stealing from GLBSE
Oct 19 19:08:00 <Azelphur>	because it's just stealing from other users who havn't got their payout yet
Oct 19 19:08:55 <BTC-Mining>	Justificiation being that because they're angry by the situation, so it's ok not to pay back Nefario? They can't acknowledge they're not stealing it from Nefario simply because those funds are not Nefario's to start with.
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Oct 19 19:09:52 <BTC-Mining>	I'm not happy by the situation either, but I don't go making myself justice and ignoring innocent bystanders.
Oct 19 19:10:17 <BTC-Mining>	I'm growing weary of being around the bitcointalk.org forums.
Oct 19 19:13:39 <kakobrekla>	uh huh what
Oct 19 19:13:43 <kakobrekla>	double payments?
Oct 19 19:13:46 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
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Oct 19 19:14:47 <BTC-Mining>	Well, I suppose with anonymity, we get to see people's true colors. People get bolder under anonymity it seems.
Oct 19 19:14:49 <BTC-Mining>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118354.msg1281562#msg1281562
Oct 19 19:14:57 <BTC-Mining>	It starts there.
Oct 19 19:15:11 <BTC-Mining>	Nefario accidentally rerun a script and sent people their balance twice.
Oct 19 19:15:57 <BTC-Mining>	And you can read some people claiming they can keep them for all sort of justifications, basically coming down to them not liking Nefario.
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Oct 19 19:17:05 <kakobrekla>	hm
Oct 19 19:17:09 <kakobrekla>	i only got it once
Oct 19 19:17:27 <kakobrekla>	dunno if its double in size, whole 0.3 btc :)
Oct 19 19:18:41 <BTC-Mining>	No, really in two separate transaction
Oct 19 19:18:42 <kakobrekla>	>So, for anyone reading this who has gotten a double payment, the return address is 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j
Oct 19 19:18:43 <kakobrekla>	lol what
Oct 19 19:18:49 <kakobrekla>	how is he going to keep track of that
Oct 19 19:19:01 <BTC-Mining>	Yeah, I'm wondering too
Oct 19 19:19:14 <BTC-Mining>	If you send from the receiving address, there should be no problem
Oct 19 19:19:22 <BTC-Mining>	But otherwise, yeah
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Oct 19 19:19:40 <BTC-Mining>	But only one batch of 90% payments got paid 90% twice.
Oct 19 19:20:02 <kakobrekla>	90% payments?
Oct 19 19:20:06 <kakobrekla>	not full?
Oct 19 19:20:14 <kakobrekla>	thats new.
Oct 19 19:20:40 <BTC-Mining>	Some have been paid 90%, Nefario demands the funds held by theymos to repay the remaining 10% on those accounts.
Oct 19 19:20:52 <kakobrekla>	seems like bitcoin dark ages again
Oct 19 19:21:01 <kakobrekla>	was kinda bound to happen
Oct 19 19:21:03 <BTC-Mining>	Now with the accidental double payment, not sure he has enough funds at all anymore
Oct 19 19:21:06 <kakobrekla>	but no worries it shall pass.
Oct 19 19:21:09 <BTC-Mining>	Even if theymos would send.
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Oct 19 19:22:01 <BTC-Mining>	Also, theymos gave a scammer tag to someone for keeping funds the person knew was not his, but he's now advocating that people keep what Nefario sent.
Oct 19 19:22:10 <BTC-Mining>	In error
Oct 19 19:22:38 <BTC-Mining>	The whole bitcointalk.org forum is getting uglier and uglier...
Oct 19 19:22:39 <kakobrekla>	wait what
Oct 19 19:22:55 <kakobrekla>	theymos is saying users should keep the money
Oct 19 19:23:19 <BTC-Mining>	Ask Chaaang, he mentioned that, not sure in which thread theymos gave said scammer tag.
Oct 19 19:23:41 <BTC-Mining>	He was complaining about that in the thread and how funds should be returned to Nefario
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Oct 19 19:27:34 <BTC-Mining>	See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118354.msg1283157#msg1283157
Oct 19 19:29:17 <kakobrekla>	what a a farce
Oct 19 19:29:59 <kakobrekla>	its like real time big brother farce show everyone can be invloved in a feel the pain
Oct 19 19:30:08 <BTC-Mining>	It's just... starting to make me so tired and depressed to be on the forum
Oct 19 19:30:15 <kakobrekla>	and feel the pain*
Oct 19 19:30:23 <kakobrekla>	indeed
Oct 19 19:30:31 <kakobrekla>	nothing but scam to read about
Oct 19 19:30:35 <BTC-Mining>	Just trying to reason with people is like trying to swimming up a fall...
Oct 19 19:30:42 <BTC-Mining>	Everyone for themselve
Oct 19 19:31:09 <BTC-Mining>	eff, I got to get off for a bit.
Oct 19 19:31:15 <kakobrekla>	good luck
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Oct 19 19:50:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17715 @ 0.00043265 = 7.6644 BTC [-]
Oct 19 19:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29736 @ 0.00043204 = 12.8471 BTC [-]
Oct 19 19:58:22 <Diablo-D3>	http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DRt78Vne
Oct 19 19:58:24 <Diablo-D3>	_heh_
Oct 19 19:58:47 <Diablo-D3>	BTC-Mining: I dont really feel so bad about dmc anymore
Oct 19 19:59:18 <Diablo-D3>	everyone everywhere got fucked forever.
Oct 19 19:59:31 <Diablo-D3>	dmc merely got a front row seat for it
Oct 19 20:00:39 <rg>	i dont trust theymos
Oct 19 20:00:40 <rg>	at all
Oct 19 20:00:54 <Diablo-D3>	I trust theymos more than I trust nefario
Oct 19 20:01:00 <rg>	then you're an idiot
Oct 19 20:01:01 <Diablo-D3>	theymos wanted nefario out because he was fucking up
Oct 19 20:01:07 <Diablo-D3>	everyone outvoted theymos
Oct 19 20:01:13 <Diablo-D3>	theymos ragequit on the glbse board
Oct 19 20:01:14 <rg>	theymos wasnt even an invsetor
Oct 19 20:01:23 <Diablo-D3>	he was an investor and the treasurer
Oct 19 20:01:32 <rg>	he never paid anything
Oct 19 20:01:38 <rg>	and if he di
Oct 19 20:01:39 <Diablo-D3>	3.3% I think he said.
Oct 19 20:01:46 <rg>	it was money that was obtained by taking donations on the frum
Oct 19 20:01:47 <rg>	forum
Oct 19 20:01:52 <rg>	under false pretense
Oct 19 20:02:00 <Diablo-D3>	theymos DOES run a small farm
Oct 19 20:02:06 <Diablo-D3>	so it probably was his
Oct 19 20:02:27 <rg>	i dont know why i even bothered saying anything
Oct 19 20:02:34 <rg>	your mind is made up regardless of evidence
Oct 19 20:02:40 <Diablo-D3>	rg: dont get me wrong
Oct 19 20:02:44 <Diablo-D3>	he should have came forward earlier
Oct 19 20:02:50 <Diablo-D3>	now it looks like hes just trying to cover his ass
Oct 19 20:03:31 <rg>	theymos is a scammer
Oct 19 20:04:03 <Diablo-D3>	everyones a scammer
Oct 19 20:04:11 <Diablo-D3>	me, you, God, esspecially Jesus Christ
Oct 19 20:04:20 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, a kickstarter for a machine that converts water into wine? fuck that
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Oct 19 20:04:56 <rg>	i laugh at 3.3%
Oct 19 20:07:30 <BTC-Mining>	Stochastic replied with a nice video about how people would just keep the money...
Oct 19 20:07:34 <BTC-Mining>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ktvE2vfxSQ&t=1m25s
Oct 19 20:07:56 <BTC-Mining>	Sums it up nicely.
Oct 19 20:08:33 <kakobrekla>	hehehe clay davis
Oct 19 20:08:50 <kakobrekla>	love the wire
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Oct 19 20:10:10 <Diablo-D3>	I have never seen the wire
Oct 19 20:10:22 <kakobrekla>	you are missing out :p
Oct 19 20:10:31 <OneMiner>	+1 great show.
Oct 19 20:10:31 <Diablo-D3>	is it on netflix?
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Oct 19 20:10:52 <BTC-Mining>	I have never seen almost every american "great show" I keep hearing about
Oct 19 20:11:33 <Diablo-D3>	BTC-Mining: watch lillyhammer
Oct 19 20:12:55 <BTC-Mining>	I don't have time to watch more series
Oct 19 20:13:18 <Diablo-D3>	its short
Oct 19 20:13:24 <Diablo-D3>	Im actually sad how short it is
Oct 19 20:13:27 <Diablo-D3>	although netflix is making more
Oct 19 20:13:31 <Diablo-D3>	its netflix's own series
Oct 19 20:15:38 <matthewh3>	anyone want to order me this phone for 16btc - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-Desire-C-White-3-Smartphone-/320988948401?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item4abc6ea7b1
Oct 19 20:15:48 <matthewh3>	thats a 0.5btc profit
Oct 19 20:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16917 @ 0.00043204 = 7.3088 BTC [-]
Oct 19 20:23:25 <BTC-Mining>	You're not in OTC...
Oct 19 20:23:41 <BTC-Mining>	but eh, would just get my finances more mixed up
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Oct 19 20:26:50 <matthewh3>	I done trades before and I've ran RSM since Febuary we have $4,000 of ASIC's on order so not going anaywhere
Oct 19 20:27:23 <matthewh3>	I think if you pay with PayPal it works out 15.5BTC and I'm paying 16btc
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Oct 19 20:43:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00043168 = 5.7845 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 21:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29461 @ 0.00043176 = 12.7201 BTC [+]
Oct 19 21:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.0004337 = 7.503 BTC [+]
Oct 19 21:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3239 @ 0.00043401 = 1.4058 BTC [+]
Oct 19 21:11:42 <BTC-Mining>	matthewh3, I mean, any such transaction looks like a personal transaction and it would be too much pain to deduct it from revnue.
Oct 19 21:12:59 <BTC-Mining>	As such if I'd constantly have to sell BTC to get back some fiat because I do transactions for other, my bank statements looks like I have more income and pay for personal items. And taxes are far more than the few % margin you get on paying for something for someone.
Oct 19 21:13:47 <BTC-Mining>	So yeah, in case of investigation about my tax reports, would get messy explaining anything.
Oct 19 21:14:06 <BTC-Mining>	Not really something I'm too enthusiast about.
Oct 19 21:14:22 <BTC-Mining>	Sad because I could and would really like to do such transactions for others.
Oct 19 21:20:53 <Diablo-D3>	https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/644607_362134373876031_407128619_n.jpg
Oct 19 21:24:58 <thestringpuller>	where is mircea
Oct 19 21:25:00 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 19 21:32:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17018 @ 0.00043168 = 7.3463 BTC [-]
Oct 19 21:32:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9882 @ 0.00043162 = 4.2653 BTC [-]
Oct 19 21:34:49 <BTC-Mining>	eh, I never know if I should click Diablo-D3's links or mircea's links
Oct 19 21:36:25 <BTC-Mining>	Not always safe to click on, although this one is nice.
Oct 19 21:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00043162 = 0.3885 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 22:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	i guess everyone has already seen http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE ?
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Oct 19 22:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.00043162 = 2.149 BTC [-]
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Oct 19 22:35:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you are alive
Oct 19 22:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	yea ?
Oct 19 22:36:26 <thestringpuller>	you and smickles have been very helpful
Oct 19 22:36:51 <thestringpuller>	for that: thank you
Oct 19 22:37:18 <mircea_popescu>	hey, yw.
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Oct 19 22:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	what did that smickles character do this time!
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Oct 19 22:38:04 <thestringpuller>	he let me bounce my ideas off of him
Oct 19 22:38:22 <thestringpuller>	advice is worth a lot
Oct 19 22:39:19 <thestringpuller>	i may be able to bring the money gram prices to negligible
Oct 19 22:39:19 <mircea_popescu>	hehe cool!
Oct 19 22:40:59 <thestringpuller>	i read more about free models after talking with you
Oct 19 22:49:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26414 @ 0.00043162 = 11.4008 BTC [-]
Oct 19 22:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	that's always good then!
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Oct 19 23:13:51 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: so ultimately i came to the conclusion maybe personalized liiquidation solutions would be more affordable for both parties. one peronalized solution would be a bill pay service for rg
Oct 19 23:14:16 <mircea_popescu>	does this scale ?
Oct 19 23:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.0004338 = 5.4225 BTC [+]
Oct 19 23:14:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00043381 = 13.5783 BTC [+]
Oct 19 23:14:50 <thestringpuller>	yea like bitpay but its customized i suppose
Oct 19 23:15:20 <thestringpuller>	not so much payment as liquidation
Oct 19 23:15:30 <noagendamarket>	we need a plugin for quicken or mint.com
Oct 19 23:15:45 <thestringpuller>	i can do mint
Oct 19 23:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	actually a get-btc straight from mint would be great.
Oct 19 23:18:51 <noagendamarket>	need to track the prices at the time you use the coins ,capital gains tax etc
Oct 19 23:19:27 <noagendamarket>	gives me a headache to think about lol
Oct 19 23:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	most jurisdiction have sane tax laws
Oct 19 23:19:54 <mircea_popescu>	(as in, taxable when realised)
Oct 19 23:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.86438937 = 864.3894 BTC [+]
Oct 19 23:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 920 @ 0.76062356 = 699.7737 BTC [+]
Oct 19 23:27:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 880 @ 0.65720131 = 578.3372 BTC [-]
Oct 19 23:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 740 @ 0.55444696 = 410.2908 BTC [+]
Oct 19 23:32:19 <thestringpuller>	alot of puts...
Oct 19 23:33:19 <thestringpuller>	noagendamarket: im.actually.working on that for personal.use
Oct 19 23:33:21 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Oct 19 23:33:43 <noagendamarket>	nice
Oct 19 23:33:43 <thestringpuller>	not mint though
Oct 19 23:33:55 <thestringpuller>	just using terminal
Oct 19 23:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 100 @ 0.00300376 = 0.3004 BTC [-]
Oct 19 23:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 300 @ 0.0033009 = 0.9903 BTC [+]
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Oct 19 23:51:29 <Chaaang-Noi>	http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DRt78Vne
Oct 19 23:51:36 <Chaaang-Noi>	if not seen
Oct 19 23:54:10 <copumpkin>	oh
Oct 19 23:54:15 <copumpkin>	european date order
Oct 19 23:54:18 <copumpkin>	was confused there for a bit :)
Oct 19 23:57:14 <Chaaang-Noi>	:)
Oct 19 23:57:27 <Chaaang-Noi>	btw i did not leak this, its public
Oct 19 23:59:25 <BTC-Mining>	It really looks like Nefario is chickening out of legal responsibility, trying to make everything disappear.
Oct 19 23:59:39 <BTC-Mining>	I only saw tidbits quoted before.
Oct 19 23:59:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah
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Oct 19 23:59:45 <Chaaang-Noi>	i dont think anyone is after him
Oct 19 23:59:47 <Diablo-D3>	BTC-Mining: it is
Oct 19 23:59:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	esp since he did not collect aml stuff after all
Oct 19 23:59:55 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, at least I bought back half the dmc shares
Oct 19 23:59:57 <Diablo-D3>	so theres that
Oct 20 00:00:19 <Chaaang-Noi>	he wants to pretend that someone is forcing him to do something but i dont think that is the case
Oct 20 00:00:27 <noagendamarket>	we are so screwed
Oct 20 00:00:53 <Chaaang-Noi>	well i kinda hope the govt does not go after nefario
Oct 20 00:01:33 <Chaaang-Noi>	im only 50% done as the log is loooong but it just looks like nefario wants to cover his ass
Oct 20 00:01:40 <Chaaang-Noi>	it also looks like more than 50% support him
Oct 20 00:02:00 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Oct 20 00:02:01 <Diablo-D3>	I just
Oct 20 00:02:04 <Diablo-D3>	dont get it =/
Oct 20 00:02:32 <noagendamarket>	It doesnt make any sense to me :/
Oct 20 00:03:06 <noagendamarket>	Maybe he just cant be bothered anymore
Oct 20 00:03:10 <noagendamarket>	lol
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Oct 20 00:05:39 <Chaaang-Noi>	i think he thinks that if he shuts this down nothing bad will happen to him
Oct 20 00:05:50 <Chaaang-Noi>	and if he keeps going he risks one day getting fucked hard by a lot of people
Oct 20 00:06:03 <Chaaang-Noi>	lot of govt people
Oct 20 00:06:21 <Chaaang-Noi>	i do understand why he is shutting it down
Oct 20 00:06:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	but he started this out being very anon and then changed it into what it is today in 3 versions
Oct 20 00:06:55 <Chaaang-Noi>	he really fucked up, he did this to himself
Oct 20 00:07:02 <Chaaang-Noi>	despite people telling him over and over not to
Oct 20 00:07:20 <noagendamarket>	we didnt buy shares in Nefario we bought them in bitcoinglobal.
Oct 20 00:07:45 <Chaaang-Noi>	more than 50% of bitcoin global voted to shut down GLBSE
Oct 20 00:08:04 <Chaaang-Noi>	are you one of the shareholders noagenda?
Oct 20 00:08:18 <noagendamarket>	there was npo point voting though
Oct 20 00:08:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	but there was a vote
Oct 20 00:10:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00043381 = 3.1668 BTC [+]
Oct 20 00:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16061 @ 0.00043401 = 6.9706 BTC [+]
Oct 20 00:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20839 @ 0.00043404 = 9.045 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 00:10:51 <BTC-Mining>	He refused to say anything and insists that there won't be any problems?
Oct 20 00:11:41 <BTC-Mining>	Wouldn't be surprised if he was ordered to shut it down but it was too minor for them to sanction Nefario more than that.
Oct 20 00:12:05 <Diablo-D3>	https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/190343_440022752702093_1392987282_n.jpg
Oct 20 00:12:11 <BTC-Mining>	Maybe an order to close the website and interdiction to do anything related to securities for some years.
Oct 20 00:12:27 <BTC-Mining>	Or he's just scared.
Oct 20 00:12:32 <Chaang-Noi>	i think he just got scared
Oct 20 00:12:49 <BTC-Mining>	Chaang-Noi, where was that link?
Oct 20 00:13:01 <Chaang-Noi>	if he really had some sort of thing with the govt aginst me he would not have sent me back my BTC like a week after he delisted me without my AML stuff
Oct 20 00:13:18 <Chaang-Noi>	was on the forum BTC-Mining from christo i think
Oct 20 00:13:36 <noagendamarket>	hes probably less scared of bitcoiners than the government :P
Oct 20 00:14:14 <noagendamarket>	unlike keyboard warriors the government can really fuck your shit up
Oct 20 00:14:43 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah why did he send me back BTC if he had the govt involved?
Oct 20 00:14:58 <BTC-Mining>	Mormons usually endorse republicans?
Oct 20 00:18:52 <Azelphur>	you guys know he did an interview and explained all this right?
Oct 20 00:19:38 <noagendamarket>	he explained shit
Oct 20 00:20:16 <noagendamarket>	and hes operating in bad faith
Oct 20 00:20:53 <Azelphur>	how else exactly would he shut down cleanly?
Oct 20 00:21:34 <Chaang-Noi>	send double payments?
Oct 20 00:21:34 <noagendamarket>	he probably thinks he did
Oct 20 00:21:44 <noagendamarket>	its all in his imaginatuion
Oct 20 00:22:05 <Azelphur>	he actually did
Oct 20 00:22:08 <Azelphur>	I know someone who got double paid lol
Oct 20 00:22:24 <noagendamarket>	the easy way to do it is just let people withdraw using their account on site
Oct 20 00:22:47 <Azelphur>	yea, would have probably been easier.
Oct 20 00:22:48 <noagendamarket>	then there is the way a retard would do it
Oct 20 00:22:56 <noagendamarket>	never go full retard
Oct 20 00:24:34 <noagendamarket>	Im done covering for nefario and he can dig himself out of his own mess.
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Oct 20 00:36:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00043204 = 11.8379 BTC [-]
Oct 20 00:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26297 @ 0.00043404 = 11.4139 BTC [+]
Oct 20 00:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2143 @ 0.00043493 = 0.9321 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 01:01:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9534 @ 0.00043162 = 4.1151 BTC [-]
Oct 20 01:01:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29012 @ 0.00043145 = 12.5172 BTC [-]
Oct 20 01:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12954 @ 0.00043115 = 5.5851 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 01:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24099 @ 0.00043115 = 10.3903 BTC [-]
Oct 20 01:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4701 @ 0.0004306 = 2.0243 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 01:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19748 @ 0.00043165 = 8.5242 BTC [+]
Oct 20 01:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37507 @ 0.0004306 = 16.1505 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 02:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46557 @ 0.00043493 = 20.249 BTC [+]
Oct 20 02:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3416 @ 0.00043601 = 1.4894 BTC [+]
Oct 20 02:17:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3598 @ 0.0004368 = 1.5716 BTC [+]
Oct 20 02:17:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2029 @ 0.00043682 = 0.8863 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 02:44:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52300 @ 0.00043447 = 22.7228 BTC [-]
Oct 20 02:44:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.0004306 = 0.732 BTC [-]
Oct 20 03:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00043215 = 1.0372 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 03:36:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00043215 = 8.2109 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 04:02:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00043215 = 5.4883 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 04:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10962 @ 0.00043215 = 4.7372 BTC [+]
Oct 20 04:53:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6248 @ 0.00043272 = 2.7036 BTC [+]
Oct 20 05:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26152 @ 0.00043272 = 11.3165 BTC [+]
Oct 20 05:19:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25648 @ 0.00043333 = 11.114 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 05:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9738 @ 0.00043215 = 4.2083 BTC [-]
Oct 20 05:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25562 @ 0.00043167 = 11.0343 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 06:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00043333 = 8.6666 BTC [+]
Oct 20 06:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 338 @ 0.00043167 = 0.1459 BTC [-]
Oct 20 06:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26062 @ 0.00043133 = 11.2413 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 07:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13438 @ 0.00043133 = 5.7962 BTC [-]
Oct 20 07:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28961 @ 0.00043066 = 12.4723 BTC [-]
Oct 20 07:02:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4393 @ 0.0004306 = 1.8916 BTC [-]
Oct 20 07:02:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4958 @ 0.00043057 = 2.1348 BTC [-]
Oct 20 07:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15042 @ 0.00043057 = 6.4766 BTC [-]
Oct 20 07:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00043036 = 3.3998 BTC [-]
Oct 20 07:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.0004303 = 3.7436 BTC [-]
Oct 20 07:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6660 @ 0.00043024 = 2.8654 BTC [-]
Oct 20 07:53:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00043333 = 2.2533 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 08:16:08 <EskimoBob>	did I miss anything interesting?
Oct 20 08:16:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 731 @ 0.10257112 = 74.9795 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 08:42:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28224 @ 0.00043047 = 12.1496 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 08:59:48 <kakobrekla>	http://thatsmathematics.com/blog/archives/102
Oct 20 09:09:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5732 @ 0.00043134 = 2.4724 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 09:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7368 @ 0.00043134 = 3.1781 BTC [+]
Oct 20 09:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16732 @ 0.0004312 = 7.2148 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 10:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 9 @ 0.10121872 = 0.911 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 10:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6944 @ 0.0004312 = 2.9943 BTC [-]
Oct 20 10:27:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40556 @ 0.00043065 = 17.4654 BTC [-]
Oct 20 10:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15844 @ 0.00043065 = 6.8232 BTC [-]
Oct 20 10:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6740 @ 0.00043024 = 2.8998 BTC [-]
Oct 20 10:56:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24316 @ 0.00043016 = 10.4598 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 11:22:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18272 @ 0.00043288 = 7.9096 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 11:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2828 @ 0.00043313 = 1.2249 BTC [+]
Oct 20 11:47:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47872 @ 0.00043261 = 20.7099 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 12:12:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6528 @ 0.00043261 = 2.8241 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 12:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48413 @ 0.00043167 = 20.8984 BTC [-]
Oct 20 12:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1469 @ 0.00043333 = 0.6366 BTC [+]
Oct 20 12:40:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4018 @ 0.00043335 = 1.7412 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 12:53:04 <Chaaang-Noi>	in like a day this is the only post here <kakobrekla> http://thatsmathematics.com/blog/archives/102
Oct 20 12:53:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	its a good post but no one even responded
Oct 20 12:53:35 <Chaaang-Noi>	this is a dead or soon to be dead chan
Oct 20 12:54:12 <pigeons>	no you're just on ignore ;)
Oct 20 13:05:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16589 @ 0.00043016 = 7.1359 BTC [-]
Oct 20 13:05:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16511 @ 0.00042997 = 7.0992 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 13:18:46 <Chaaang-Noi>	lol ;)
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Oct 20 13:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189 @ 0.00042997 = 0.0813 BTC [-]
Oct 20 13:31:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34211 @ 0.00042963 = 14.6981 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 13:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32482 @ 0.00043335 = 14.0761 BTC [+]
Oct 20 13:56:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11218 @ 0.00043376 = 4.8659 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 14:04:30 <thestringpuller>	anyone alive out there?
Oct 20 14:04:45 <BTC-Mining>	I am
Oct 20 14:05:46 <thestringpuller>	I'm attempting to launch a service tonight
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Oct 20 14:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00043192 = 10.3661 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 14:26:28 <FabianB_>	thestringpuller: what kind of?
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Oct 20 14:46:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15789 @ 0.00042963 = 6.7834 BTC [-]
Oct 20 14:46:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22111 @ 0.00042951 = 9.4969 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 15:02:22 <thestringpuller>	FabianB_: I'm launching a liquidation service. The main product is turning bitcoins into cash via moneygram within 1 hour
Oct 20 15:02:54 <thestringpuller>	the side product is personalized liquidity solutions for people who need to pay expenses in bitcoin but don't want to deal with fiat at all
Oct 20 15:03:59 <thestringpuller>	hopefully rg will be my first client for that latter
Oct 20 15:09:09 <jurov>	so.i can't discuss mpex on btctalk anymore.. there's always somebody who says it's child porn site
Oct 20 15:10:11 <thestringpuller>	dude btctalk is fucking annoying
Oct 20 15:10:20 <thestringpuller>	there is no child porn on that site
Oct 20 15:10:28 <thestringpuller>	just a /b/ like board where girls post nudie pics
Oct 20 15:10:32 <thestringpuller>	which isn't even really porn
Oct 20 15:10:34 <thestringpuller>	bageezus
Oct 20 15:10:46 <thestringpuller>	no one complains about fucking reddit.com/r/gonewild
Oct 20 15:11:32 <jurov>	i know. but btctalk is practically lost cause now.
Oct 20 15:11:54 <thestringpuller>	le sigh
Oct 20 15:11:56 <thestringpuller>	too many trolls
Oct 20 15:12:07 <thestringpuller>	everything encounters the eternal september it seems
Oct 20 15:12:18 <thestringpuller>	#bitcoin-assets is the last bastion of hope
Oct 20 15:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00043192 = 4.6647 BTC [+]
Oct 20 15:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11882 @ 0.00043376 = 5.1539 BTC [+]
Oct 20 15:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6118 @ 0.00043403 = 2.6554 BTC [+]
Oct 20 15:12:56 <thestringpuller>	jurov:  mircea_popescu loved the live ticker
Oct 20 15:13:17 <jurov>	yes, he helped me a bit with it
Oct 20 15:14:35 <thestringpuller>	well jurov I may end up using coinbr extensively if this service takes off to hedge fees
Oct 20 15:14:45 <thestringpuller>	from moneygram buttfucking me on the price
Oct 20 15:23:20 <jurov>	thx, i just got idea that kakobrekla's clients may need to hedge BTCUSD too
Oct 20 15:23:34 <jurov>	we'll se when he's around
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Oct 20 15:38:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16006 @ 0.00043403 = 6.9471 BTC [+]
Oct 20 16:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00043154 = 0.8199 BTC [-]
Oct 20 16:04:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00043059 = 8.6979 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 16:30:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00043059 = 6.0283 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 16:55:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21376 @ 0.00043403 = 9.2778 BTC [+]
Oct 20 16:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2924 @ 0.00043464 = 1.2709 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 17:12:31 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Oct 20 17:12:32 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.67752, Best ask: 11.67753, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.67752, 24 hour volume: 22623, 24 hour low: 11.56025, 24 hour high: 11.85
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Oct 20 17:14:31 <jurov>	mornin kakobrekla
Oct 20 17:14:41 <kakobrekla>	heya jurov
Oct 20 17:14:43 <kakobrekla>	hows it going
Oct 20 17:14:48 <jurov>	slowly
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Oct 20 17:14:57 <kakobrekla>	better slowly than backwards
Oct 20 17:15:23 <jurov>	hehe... don't bit4x client need some btc/usd hedging?
Oct 20 17:15:45 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Oct 20 17:16:13 <kakobrekla>	can you rephrase the question
Oct 20 17:16:28 <jurov>	like, i'm going to trade forex, fund my account in btc and then have second thoughts
Oct 20 17:16:48 <kakobrekla>	yea?
Oct 20 17:16:56 <jurov>	what if btc is going up and i'll be stuck at usd...
Oct 20 17:17:02 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Oct 20 17:17:04 <kakobrekla>	there is no usd
Oct 20 17:17:15 <kakobrekla>	your MT4 balance is denominated in btc
Oct 20 17:17:20 <kakobrekla>	there is no conversion
Oct 20 17:17:50 <kakobrekla>	thats the point of the whole thing
Oct 20 17:17:58 <kakobrekla>	:)
Oct 20 17:18:01 <jurov>	but what happens if btc shoots up? you eat the loss?
Oct 20 17:18:13 <kakobrekla>	we never convert the btc
Oct 20 17:19:15 <kakobrekla>	all deposits that clients made are in my cold storage
Oct 20 17:21:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30514 @ 0.00043464 = 13.2626 BTC [+]
Oct 20 17:21:18 <jurov>	but if someone funds with btc and want to trade trades eur/usd, and later wants to cash out in bitcoins, you use current exch rate, no?
Oct 20 17:21:36 <rg>	good question
Oct 20 17:21:40 <rg>	ive been wondering a similar quetion
Oct 20 17:21:49 <jurov>	then they have to take bitcoin movement into account
Oct 20 17:22:14 <kakobrekla>	you can only cash out in bitcoins
Oct 20 17:22:18 <kakobrekla>	its not an option.
Oct 20 17:22:23 <kakobrekla>	everything is in bitcoins
Oct 20 17:22:29 <jurov>	you dodge my question
Oct 20 17:22:31 <kakobrekla>	your deposit, your mt4 balance, your PL
Oct 20 17:22:35 <kakobrekla>	your withdrawal
Oct 20 17:22:36 <kakobrekla>	no
Oct 20 17:22:48 <jurov>	so it's practically btc.usd forex?
Oct 20 17:22:50 <kakobrekla>	you keep asking me about usd/btc
Oct 20 17:23:01 <kakobrekla>	as site says its irrelevant as per your trading
Oct 20 17:24:20 <jurov>	so i deposit, say, 100BTC. now, can i use them for usd/eur/gold forex trades, no?
Oct 20 17:25:15 <kakobrekla>	jurov yes
Oct 20 17:25:58 <kakobrekla>	for comodities 0.1 lot is minimum, meaning with 100 btc you need 1:100 leverage
Oct 20 17:26:05 <kakobrekla>	which is kinda dangerous
Oct 20 17:26:10 <kakobrekla>	for G/S
Oct 20 17:26:31 <kakobrekla>	for the rest of the stuff 0.01 is min, so 100 btc with 1:10 will do
Oct 20 17:27:13 <kakobrekla>	check margin and leverage here http://bit4x.com/faq.html
Oct 20 17:34:10 <jurov>	dunno, perhaps i'll have to try it myself to understand why btc/usd is irrelevant at bit4x
Oct 20 17:36:19 <kakobrekla>	sure
Oct 20 17:36:40 <kakobrekla>	you can try the demo, its eur only
Oct 20 17:36:48 <kakobrekla>	just imagine eur is btc on the exchange
Oct 20 17:36:57 <kakobrekla>	and thats about it.
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Oct 20 17:46:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11246 @ 0.00043464 = 4.888 BTC [+]
Oct 20 18:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3916 @ 0.00043464 = 1.7021 BTC [+]
Oct 20 18:11:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00043486 = 4.8269 BTC [+]
Oct 20 18:11:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17284 @ 0.00043494 = 7.5175 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 18:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9759 @ 0.00043059 = 4.2021 BTC [-]
Oct 20 18:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30014 @ 0.00043045 = 12.9195 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 18:58:03 <dub>	mmm the mrs brought me back a 21 y/o
Oct 20 19:00:03 <kakobrekla>	hm?
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Oct 20 19:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1845 @ 0.00043045 = 0.7942 BTC [-]
Oct 20 19:03:17 <dub>	http://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/balvenie-port-wood-21-year-old-whisky/
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Oct 20 19:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30442 @ 0.00043278 = 13.1747 BTC [+]
Oct 20 19:28:45 <thestringpuller>	mircea
Oct 20 19:28:49 <thestringpuller>	is gone
Oct 20 19:33:58 <rdponticelli>	He sold a lot of mpoe...
Oct 20 19:34:13 <thestringpuller>	and now he's gone forever
Oct 20 19:34:16 <thestringpuller>	:(
Oct 20 19:34:36 <rdponticelli>	Maybe he's spending his new fortune
Oct 20 19:36:09 <rdponticelli>	And now that glbse's gone, he has nobody to troll...
Oct 20 19:41:48 <thestringpuller>	rg: you around
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Oct 20 19:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00043473 = 8.4772 BTC [+]
Oct 20 19:53:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00043417 = 3.2563 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 20:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1020 @ 0.00043494 = 0.4436 BTC [+]
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Oct 20 20:33:56 <thestringpuller>	3anyone alive here
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Oct 20 20:38:47 <kakobrekla>	ofc
Oct 20 20:41:19 <smickles>	yay, "highspeed" internet!
Oct 20 20:41:45 <thestringpuller>	YES
Oct 20 20:41:47 <thestringpuller>	he lives
Oct 20 20:41:55 <smickles>	heh
Oct 20 20:42:04 <smickles>	How are things?
Oct 20 20:42:07 <thestringpuller>	You are one of my favorite people now smickles.
Oct 20 20:42:15 <thestringpuller>	I changed my idea a bit
Oct 20 20:42:20 <thestringpuller>	we are coding the website as we speak
Oct 20 20:42:25 <thestringpuller>	I'm looking for a C based web framework
Oct 20 20:42:41 <smickles>	ooh, that's neat
Oct 20 20:42:56 <smickles>	do you have an ETA to minum viable product?
Oct 20 20:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4258 @ 0.00043417 = 1.8487 BTC [-]
Oct 20 20:44:04 <thestringpuller>	Mos def! MVP is 2 things, automated bill payment. You essentially fill out a form, and we'll set up an automated solution to have your bills paid.
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Oct 20 20:44:25 <smickles>	I've really only worked with Django (python frameword), so I can't offer a suggestion for that
Oct 20 20:44:31 <thestringpuller>	We invoice you the day of the bill and give you a price based on exaggerations.
Oct 20 20:44:35 <thestringpuller>	err
Oct 20 20:44:47 <thestringpuller>	exchange rates (someone in hack-a-thon room was talking to me)
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Oct 20 20:45:22 <smickles>	heh
Oct 20 20:45:31 <thestringpuller>	lol exagerrated prices, anyhow basically it's depth volume price at the time
Oct 20 20:45:36 <smickles>	exaggerations, funny
Oct 20 20:46:14 <thestringpuller>	the only thing is people can "default"
Oct 20 20:46:26 <thestringpuller>	our system is set to pay it automatically, almost like a short term loan
Oct 20 20:46:39 <thestringpuller>	so if they just don't pay the invoice
Oct 20 20:46:49 <thestringpuller>	the bill still gets paid
Oct 20 20:46:58 <smickles>	How would you avoid getting ripped off?
Oct 20 20:47:16 <smickles>	i guess it is limited, due to the circumstance involved
Oct 20 20:47:19 <thestringpuller>	well rg would be my first client so I'm assuming based on what he has to lose wouldn't scam me
Oct 20 20:47:30 <thestringpuller>	so I would essentially have underwriting
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Oct 20 20:47:53 <smickles>	would you do individuals bills?
Oct 20 20:48:02 <thestringpuller>	if the person is underwritten
Oct 20 20:48:02 <smickles>	or is this just for business?
Oct 20 20:48:08 <thestringpuller>	then we'd open an account
Oct 20 20:48:30 <smickles>	ah, this could be big
Oct 20 20:48:39 <thestringpuller>	I need underwriters
Oct 20 20:48:43 <thestringpuller>	super skeptical people like mircea
Oct 20 20:48:56 <smickles>	especially if you find a good way to pay people's rent (safely for you)
Oct 20 20:49:09 <thestringpuller>	we plan to do it via checks
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Oct 20 20:49:15 <thestringpuller>	perhaps we can have a short delay
Oct 20 20:49:22 <thestringpuller>	like an hour window that if they don't pay the invoice
Oct 20 20:49:23 <smickles>	that's one of the "has bitcoin made it?" answers, "Can I pay my rent with it?"
Oct 20 20:49:28 <thestringpuller>	we cancel payment on the check
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Oct 20 20:50:02 <smickles>	a stop payment fee is probably less than getting stiffed outright
Oct 20 20:50:06 <smickles>	:)
Oct 20 20:50:27 <kakobrekla>	there will always be people screaming 'but its still conveted to usd!!11oneone'
Oct 20 20:50:42 <thestringpuller>	no
Oct 20 20:50:46 <thestringpuller>	converted to local currency
Oct 20 20:50:50 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Oct 20 20:50:55 <thestringpuller>	jk
Oct 20 20:50:56 <smickles>	"fiat"
Oct 20 20:51:02 <thestringpuller>	yea you're right, it is converted to fiat
Oct 20 20:51:07 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96118.msg1286403#msg1286403
Oct 20 20:51:07 <kakobrekla>	but i only hear americans saying it
Oct 20 20:51:10 <kakobrekla>	so its fair.
Oct 20 20:51:12 <kakobrekla>	:P
Oct 20 20:51:13 <smickles>	that link is cool
Oct 20 20:51:54 <thestringpuller>	Finland. That's one of my dream countries.
Oct 20 20:52:30 <smickles>	I want to look into finland more now after coming across that news
Oct 20 20:52:32 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: you are right, no one would want to get btc's by buying them then pay rent with a fee with them
Oct 20 20:52:44 <thestringpuller>	people will definitely have to already have btc's
Oct 20 20:54:23 <smickles>	people may want to buy btc to pay fees for a 'bill consolidation' services
Oct 20 20:54:31 <smickles>	er, extra letters
Oct 20 20:55:08 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Oct 20 20:55:10 <thestringpuller>	it is possible
Oct 20 20:55:20 <thestringpuller>	I see btc's as an inherent investment vehicle
Oct 20 20:55:26 <thestringpuller>	once you have them you call or put
Oct 20 20:55:29 <smickles>	i dunno if there is enough demand for that tho
Oct 20 20:55:59 <thestringpuller>	If you're holding bitcoins you should be making money by trading them
Oct 20 20:56:21 <rg>	like i said stringpuller
Oct 20 20:56:24 <rg>	its not as easy as you think
Oct 20 20:56:31 <rg>	what you might think of doing is..
Oct 20 20:56:34 <rg>	for people who need bills paid
Oct 20 20:56:38 <rg>	find a way to get them a prepaid CC
Oct 20 20:56:44 <smickles>	but it would be nice in a way, rent, phone, internet, car, insurance for this month, that'll be 200 btc by this date please :)
Oct 20 20:56:48 <rg>	a prepaid CC that you can authorize to ONLY work at predefined places
Oct 20 20:56:50 <rg>	for example
Oct 20 20:57:01 <thestringpuller>	dude
Oct 20 20:57:01 <thestringpuller>	rg
Oct 20 20:57:03 <rg>	mine will be valid for BudgetVM.COM, nexeon
Oct 20 20:57:07 <thestringpuller>	I see exactly what you mean
Oct 20 20:57:07 <rg>	that way
Oct 20 20:57:12 <rg>	yeah
Oct 20 20:57:15 <rg>	that might be good
Oct 20 20:57:17 <rg>	a custom cc
Oct 20 20:57:21 <thestringpuller>	I could probably do that
Oct 20 20:57:23 <rg>	that ONLY works wiht places you specify to pay bills
Oct 20 20:57:27 <thestringpuller>	I work for TSYS
Oct 20 20:57:32 <thestringpuller>	the prepaid division
Oct 20 20:57:33 <rg>	that way if they get stolen
Oct 20 20:57:34 <rg>	etc
Oct 20 20:57:36 <rg>	theres no risk of loss
Oct 20 20:57:44 <rg>	which is good for eveyrone
Oct 20 20:57:52 <rg>	none of our ISPs allow checking
Oct 20 20:57:55 <rg>	just CC, PayPal
Oct 20 20:58:00 <rg>	and a few misc. payment methods
Oct 20 20:58:18 <thestringpuller>	we process: http://www.rushcard.com/index3.aspx
Oct 20 20:58:49 <thestringpuller>	i work on a project right now that issues out prepaid cards to companies who want to put payroll on prepaid visa cards
Oct 20 20:58:59 <thestringpuller>	so it's very easily doable
Oct 20 20:59:21 <thestringpuller>	rg: do they all accept CC?
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Oct 20 21:03:09 <thestringpuller>	the only thing is it would be easier for volumous transactiont to just have "an accounting department" pay off all the bills when they are do, while having a way to cancel payment if btc's aren't received by a certain date/time
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Oct 20 21:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20141 @ 0.00043045 = 8.6697 BTC [-]
Oct 20 21:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00043004 = 9.2029 BTC [-]
Oct 20 21:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3386 @ 0.0004298 = 1.4553 BTC [-]
Oct 20 21:09:51 <thestringpuller>	due* wow I can't spell tonight
Oct 20 21:11:19 <kakobrekla>	>who want to put payroll on prepaid visa cards
Oct 20 21:11:23 <kakobrekla>	why would one do that?
Oct 20 21:11:43 <rg>	kako
Oct 20 21:11:45 <thestringpuller>	cause you can't cash from allpoint atms from them
Oct 20 21:11:45 <rg>	that does happen
Oct 20 21:11:54 <thestringpuller>	cause you can get cash*
Oct 20 21:11:57 <rg>	i would take a prepaid visa as a paycheck
Oct 20 21:12:02 <rg>	so long as i can pull cash out of it
Oct 20 21:12:05 <rg>	i dnot see the problem
Oct 20 21:12:47 <kakobrekla>	i dont see the problem this is solving
Oct 20 21:12:55 <thestringpuller>	rg: we could give you an american express prepaid card and just put money on it for you
Oct 20 21:13:56 <thestringpuller>	but it's really all up to your preferred method of payment...that's how payment processors generally do it
Oct 20 21:14:27 <rg>	kakobrekla: its for poeple who accept btc
Oct 20 21:14:30 <rg>	and need to pay bills in usd
Oct 20 21:15:07 <thestringpuller>	rg so you would just want a disposable cc to pay the bills?
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Oct 20 21:16:26 <rg>	thatd do
Oct 20 21:16:28 <rg>	but if that's the case
Oct 20 21:16:32 <rg>	you could open the business to everyone
Oct 20 21:16:35 <rg>	not just paying bills
Oct 20 21:16:43 <rg>	loads of people would want a cc they can load btc on
Oct 20 21:17:20 <thestringpuller>	that requires a lot of trust between the client/vendor
Oct 20 21:17:25 <kakobrekla>	there are a copuple of btc to vcc services outthere already
Oct 20 21:17:53 <thestringpuller>	i think rg is talking about a single card that you send btc to, and out comes cash
Oct 20 21:18:11 <thestringpuller>	bitinstant is trying to do that but it's limited to $1,000 spending limit
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Oct 20 21:30:07 <thestringpuller>	i think you could piggy back of americanexpress prepaid
Oct 20 21:30:21 <thestringpuller>	off*
Oct 20 21:32:30 <thestringpuller>	But ultimately Ill have to establish it as a bitcoin bill paying/liquidation service
Oct 20 21:34:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44431 @ 0.00043192 = 19.1906 BTC [+]
Oct 20 21:34:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69 @ 0.00043494 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Oct 20 21:35:01 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/10/ff-kim-dotcom/all/
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Oct 20 22:01:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33637 @ 0.00043439 = 14.6116 BTC [-]
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Oct 20 23:09:20 <kuzetsa>	;;seen nefario
Oct 20 23:09:20 <gribble>	nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours, 9 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Oct 20 23:09:30 <kuzetsa>	:(
Oct 20 23:09:35 <kuzetsa>	darn, I was gonna ask something
Oct 20 23:10:23 <kuzetsa>	oh, hi OgNasty
Oct 20 23:10:27 <kuzetsa>	:)
Oct 20 23:11:00 <OgNasty>	hi kuzetsa
Oct 20 23:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6514 @ 0.0004298 = 2.7997 BTC [-]
Oct 20 23:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14789 @ 0.00042951 = 6.352 BTC [-]
Oct 20 23:18:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00042933 = 1.2021 BTC [-]
Oct 20 23:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5897 @ 0.00042928 = 2.5315 BTC [-]
Oct 20 23:22:08 <BTC-Mining>	kuzetsa, Nefario has been unavailable ever since GLBSE closed down. He wouldn't really answer any questions anyway
Oct 20 23:22:26 <thestringpuller>	BTC-Mining: what company do you own?
Oct 20 23:22:44 <BTC-Mining>	bitcoin or not bitcoin? Eh
Oct 20 23:22:58 <BTC-Mining>	I'll assume GLBSE
Oct 20 23:23:11 <thestringpuller>	in general
Oct 20 23:23:17 <thestringpuller>	im new to the community
Oct 20 23:23:23 <thestringpuller>	long time trader
Oct 20 23:23:33 <BTC-Mining>	GLBSE I was managing BTC-MINING/BTC-BOND/KRAKEN
Oct 20 23:24:00 <thestringpuller>	you have access to mining revenue?
Oct 20 23:24:01 <BTC-Mining>	Outside, I have a web hosting & design company, but really more a hobby business.
Oct 20 23:24:23 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, I don't mine myself however.
Oct 20 23:24:36 <thestringpuller>	that is a valuable asset
Oct 20 23:24:53 <thestringpuller>	imo
Oct 20 23:25:49 <BTC-Mining>	Quite an asset. BTC-MINING was loaned to BITBOND (2nd on GLBSE after GIGAMINING) against hashing.
Oct 20 23:26:45 <BTC-Mining>	I actually had a large share of it.
Oct 20 23:27:04 <BTC-Mining>	Eventually, the plan was to get a few ASIC rigs.
Oct 20 23:28:21 <BTC-Mining>	BTC-BOND was a plain loan I was paying 0.5% weekly on. I used it to borrow a margin on my portfolio to do more trading.
Oct 20 23:28:43 <BTC-Mining>	As for KRAKEN, it was a simple passthrough for someone's else operation.
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Oct 20 23:32:13 <BTC-Mining>	well now tho it's a mess with GLBSE closed down.
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Oct 20 23:43:43 <BTC-Mining>	So, what were you trading before looking at BTC?
Oct 20 23:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00042928 = 9.5729 BTC [-]
Oct 20 23:44:02 <thestringpuller>	ive always traded btc
Oct 20 23:44:10 <thestringpuller>	just never talked with the community
Oct 20 23:44:29 <thestringpuller>	as volume on the exchange increased it made it more valuable
Oct 20 23:44:30 <BTC-Mining>	Ah, okay
Oct 20 23:44:46 <thestringpuller>	its becoming quite the cash flow option
Oct 20 23:44:59 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, you don't say
Oct 20 23:45:17 <BTC-Mining>	I've made wonderful trades while the exchange lasted.
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Oct 20 23:46:38 <thestringpuller>	its still not as "big" as traditional inveatment vehicles, but thats also the upside. you need less money in overall quantity. the vcs will surely see this.
Oct 20 23:48:03 <BTC-Mining>	Not as big, but better returns. And less minimum capital required.
Oct 20 23:49:40 <BTC-Mining>	I purchased numerous time assets for a fraction of their worth
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Oct 20 23:52:57 <BTC-Mining>	So what were you actually investing in?
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Oct 21 00:07:28 <thestringpuller>	just trading on price swaps i guess youd call it
Oct 21 00:07:47 <BTC-Mining>	Well that'd be mostly what I was doing then.
Oct 21 00:08:08 <BTC-Mining>	And the movements were quite extreme, it was ridiculous
Oct 21 00:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00042928 = 9.6588 BTC [-]
Oct 21 00:09:10 <thestringpuller>	but you have access to moning revenue
Oct 21 00:09:13 <thestringpuller>	thats gold
Oct 21 00:09:15 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 21 00:09:32 <noagendamarket>	glbse had massive spreads
Oct 21 00:09:47 <noagendamarket>	was nice trading that
Oct 21 00:10:00 <BTC-Mining>	Only because I put a lot of money upfront to start trading.
Oct 21 00:10:18 <BTC-Mining>	More than I could actively trade, so most had to be left in some asset or another.
Oct 21 00:10:41 <BTC-Mining>	It then allowed me to have a lot of lowball bids everywhere.
Oct 21 00:10:53 <BTC-Mining>	And people would always eventually sell into it.
Oct 21 00:11:19 <BTC-Mining>	Sometimes as low as 5%-30% of the asset's average value.
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Oct 21 00:14:04 <BTC-Mining>	Hey, I'm calculating what I earned and it comes near 7% per week on average.
Oct 21 00:14:33 <BTC-Mining>	and I had no funds in Pirate.
Oct 21 00:14:44 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 21 00:14:55 <thestringpuller>	good for you. 0 pirate exposure
Oct 21 00:15:51 <BTC-Mining>	It's actually quite crazy.
Oct 21 00:16:18 <BTC-Mining>	All due to a few purchases under 10% of the asset's value.
Oct 21 00:16:30 <thestringpuller>	miners are the only secure form of returns imo
Oct 21 00:16:34 <BTC-Mining>	Sometimes even under or near the next dividend's value.
Oct 21 00:17:12 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, tell that to those who bought fixed hashing bonds...
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Oct 21 00:17:19 <BTC-Mining>	They didn't rally make a profit.
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Oct 21 00:18:39 <mircea_popescu>	miners are only secure in the sense that you're secure in the knowledge your investment will eventually devalue to almost 0.
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Oct 21 00:20:17 <thestringpuller>	transaction fees will cover it
Oct 21 00:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	its a commodified market in it man.
Oct 21 00:21:22 <thestringpuller>	at some point 0 btc transactions will take days to clear no?
Oct 21 00:21:27 <mircea_popescu>	you'll have to double power every 18 months just to stay the same, and this AFTER it stops growing.
Oct 21 00:21:33 <thestringpuller>	0 btc miner fee
Oct 21 00:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	yes, but 0.000001 isn't much.
Oct 21 00:22:14 <kuzetsa>	it'll be fine
Oct 21 00:22:23 <thestringpuller>	if you have hardware couldnt you liquidate your equipment over time to somewhat cover the cost of keeping up with moores law...
Oct 21 00:22:27 <thestringpuller>	?*
Oct 21 00:22:51 <kuzetsa>	people playing satoshi dice will keep wasting time with the various faucets, and eating transaction fees to pay the miners for their electricity
Oct 21 00:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,diff
Oct 21 00:23:16 <gribble>	3072321.7320208
Oct 21 00:23:18 <kuzetsa>	[00:22:13_UTC-0400] <kuzetsa> it'll be fine
Oct 21 00:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	it'll be infinite.
Oct 21 00:24:28 <thestringpuller>	so its not profitable to mine?
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Oct 21 00:25:05 <thestringpuller>	or is it just your profit decreases to 0 over time
Oct 21 00:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller it's a cash-flow business. let me dig the thing up
Oct 21 00:26:57 <mircea_popescu>	.g site:bitcointalk.org miner bonds worst investments you can make
Oct 21 00:27:42 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Oct 21 00:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100303.0
Oct 21 00:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	there
Oct 21 00:29:40 <thestringpuller>	:(
Oct 21 00:30:13 <thestringpuller>	i see
Oct 21 00:30:44 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu what about loans?
Oct 21 00:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	what about them ?
Oct 21 00:31:33 <thestringpuller>	are they more viable on the scale of "bad to good"
Oct 21 00:34:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7503 @ 0.00042928 = 3.2209 BTC [-]
Oct 21 00:34:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00042927 = 4.6361 BTC [-]
Oct 21 00:34:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13097 @ 0.00042926 = 5.622 BTC [-]
Oct 21 00:36:03 <BTC-Mining>	Mining is profitable... just not for fixed mhash/s bond because of what's stated in the thread.
Oct 21 00:36:11 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 21 00:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller the last play-pretend forum banker defaulted recently, didn't he ?
Oct 21 00:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	loans work, but 5% a week bullshit is not "loans".
Oct 21 00:36:38 <BTC-Mining>	which one is that?
Oct 21 00:36:42 <mircea_popescu>	harnett
Oct 21 00:36:51 <BTC-Mining>	Did he?
Oct 21 00:36:59 <thestringpuller>	patrick harnett makes profits off loans non?
Oct 21 00:37:24 <thestringpuller>	oh patrick defaulted?
Oct 21 00:37:29 <thestringpuller>	whoa
Oct 21 00:38:20 <mircea_popescu>	i'm sure he has a great plan to make everything right over the span of a few years
Oct 21 00:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	i'm also sure he's going to spend most of those years in various courts.
Oct 21 00:39:12 <thestringpuller>	well fuck
Oct 21 00:39:39 <thestringpuller>	i guess usagi had no chance then
Oct 21 00:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't work in the real world, either. if you compensate for bad loans by jacking up rates eventually you create a vicious circle :
Oct 21 00:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	the only people willing to borrow are those who don't intend to repay.
Oct 21 00:41:36 <BTC-Mining>	When did Patrick default?
Oct 21 00:41:53 <thestringpuller>	man the economy is gonna plummet
Oct 21 00:41:58 <thestringpuller>	shit dizzle
Oct 21 00:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining it's a future event. ten days or so.
Oct 21 00:43:00 <BTC-Mining>	aye, so where can I read about that? Do you remember the thread?
Oct 21 00:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	you will, once he fails to pay my 500 btc end of the month
Oct 21 00:44:10 <BTC-Mining>	so... how do you know if there's no announcement or anything?
Oct 21 00:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	aren't you used to me by now ? i know things.
Oct 21 00:45:02 <BTC-Mining>	oh... I see...
Oct 21 00:45:35 <BTC-Mining>	Not sure why you would think so for Harnett
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Oct 21 00:50:54 <BTC-Mining>	Well, we'll see about that very soon.
Oct 21 00:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Oct 21 00:52:44 <BTC-Mining>	It's now the wee hours of the morning. I'm off for today.
Oct 21 00:52:48 <BTC-Mining>	Goodbye
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Oct 21 01:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5907 @ 0.00042926 = 2.5356 BTC [-]
Oct 21 01:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18793 @ 0.00042921 = 8.0661 BTC [-]
Oct 21 01:00:16 <OgNasty>	;;getrating ognasty
Oct 21 01:00:16 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User OgNasty, rated since Sat Sep  1 19:15:19 2012. Cumulative rating 11, from 8 total ratings. Received ratings: 8 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 14 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=OgNasty
Oct 21 01:05:02 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is part of the btc banking illuminati
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Oct 21 01:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45100 @ 0.0004295 = 19.3705 BTC [+]
Oct 21 01:25:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12952 @ 0.00042921 = 5.5591 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 01:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25255 @ 0.00042921 = 10.8397 BTC [-]
Oct 21 01:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6245 @ 0.00042908 = 2.6796 BTC [-]
Oct 21 02:10:00 <noagendamarket>	mircea_popescu why would you loan him 500btc if hes a "fake banker"
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Oct 21 02:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23555 @ 0.00042908 = 10.107 BTC [-]
Oct 21 02:18:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00042898 = 6.306 BTC [-]
Oct 21 02:18:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12745 @ 0.00042883 = 5.4654 BTC [-]
Oct 21 02:25:23 <thestringpuller>	noagendamarket do you think harnett is defaulting
Oct 21 02:25:25 <thestringpuller>	?*
Oct 21 02:25:30 <thestringpuller>	I'm checking the forums.
Oct 21 02:27:53 <noagendamarket>	inb4 "I waz hacked"
Oct 21 02:30:31 <noagendamarket>	I really dont know. Nothing surprises me anymore wrt bitcoin bankers
Oct 21 02:32:39 <thestringpuller>	i only really trust my mpex account
Oct 21 02:32:49 <thestringpuller>	it's the only thing that consistently makes me money
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Oct 21 02:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7214 @ 0.00042883 = 3.0936 BTC [-]
Oct 21 02:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11995 @ 0.00042868 = 5.142 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 03:10:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10356 @ 0.00042868 = 4.4394 BTC [-]
Oct 21 03:10:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16939 @ 0.00042863 = 7.2606 BTC [-]
Oct 21 03:16:36 <mircea_popescu>	bad trust criterion i think
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Oct 21 03:19:53 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: I think it's kind of shitty to claim that harnett defaulted, and then to revise the claim to say you think he will
Oct 21 03:19:59 <copumpkin>	sounds a bit like FUD
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Oct 21 03:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00042863 = 8.9584 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 04:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2461 @ 0.00042863 = 1.0549 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 04:26:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00042843 = 6.2122 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 04:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9666 @ 0.00042843 = 4.1412 BTC [-]
Oct 21 05:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin what's your definition of default ?
Oct 21 05:14:16 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't revise the claim. what i pointed out was that third parties will be able to verify this at a set point in the future.
Oct 21 05:18:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41763 @ 0.00042855 = 17.8975 BTC [+]
Oct 21 05:18:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4937 @ 0.00042879 = 2.1169 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 05:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00042843 = 2.3564 BTC [-]
Oct 21 05:48:23 <EskimoBob>	what? Another drama in the happy-happy-joy-joy bitcoin land?
Oct 21 05:51:18 <EskimoBob>	this seen is worst than the Mexican soap opera
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Oct 21 06:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2563 @ 0.00042879 = 1.099 BTC [+]
Oct 21 06:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36921 @ 0.00042995 = 15.8742 BTC [+]
Oct 21 06:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3163 @ 0.00043439 = 1.374 BTC [+]
Oct 21 06:11:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6962 @ 0.00043494 = 3.0281 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 06:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8034 @ 0.00042843 = 3.442 BTC [-]
Oct 21 06:37:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00042841 = 13.8805 BTC [-]
Oct 21 06:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15125 @ 0.00042837 = 6.4791 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 06:49:02 <Chaang-Noi>	what is going on?
Oct 21 06:49:17 <Chaang-Noi>	more drama?
Oct 21 06:54:43 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Oct 21 06:54:51 <kakobrekla>	soh, gpumax finally closing
Oct 21 06:55:35 <EskimoBob>	gpumax was spamming for news sign-up's  not too long ago
Oct 21 06:57:10 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: how's your ninja team doing? Any progress? When can we see bleading and toothless Trendon begging for mercy and transferring all the stolen coins back?
Oct 21 06:57:45 <Chaang-Noi>	when pirate did that wait til the 12th thing most people quit on me
Oct 21 06:57:51 <Chaang-Noi>	then SEC came in...
Oct 21 06:58:01 <Chaang-Noi>	i had to operate on my own for the share holders
Oct 21 06:58:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i send a lawyer to collect assets
Oct 21 06:58:11 <Chaang-Noi>	but then GLBSE fail...
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Oct 21 06:58:19 <EskimoBob>	did the SEC really show up?
Oct 21 06:58:31 <Chaang-Noi>	SEC is doing a real investigation
Oct 21 06:58:36 <Chaang-Noi>	into what exactly i dont know
Oct 21 06:58:40 <Chaang-Noi>	so...
Oct 21 06:58:49 <EskimoBob>	did you see the papers from SEC?
Oct 21 06:58:52 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway the other people are now ready to sue pirate...
Oct 21 06:59:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not see any papers from the SEC
Oct 21 06:59:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i have trusted friends who called the SEC
Oct 21 06:59:26 <Chaang-Noi>	seems the SEC wants to chat with me
Oct 21 06:59:42 <EskimoBob>	ask for a request on a paper
Oct 21 06:59:51 <EskimoBob>	and post the scan
Oct 21 07:00:03 <Chaang-Noi>	im going to wait for them to contact me directly
Oct 21 07:00:10 <Chaang-Noi>	then i will direct them to my lawyer
Oct 21 07:00:35 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yeah, I dont like whats going on here
Oct 21 07:00:44 <EskimoBob>	chats are bull shit and if they start twisting your arm, you have nothing to prove it. Chat ONLY via letters and publish every one of them
Oct 21 07:01:03 <Chaang-Noi>	they want me to call them and they tape my phone call, not going to happen
Oct 21 07:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 10 @ 0.09413432 = 0.9413 BTC [-]
Oct 21 07:01:08 <Chaang-Noi>	esp if they wont tell me what they want
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Oct 21 07:01:29 <EskimoBob>	unless they show you a court order (publish it) that prohibits the publication of documents
Oct 21 07:01:42 <EskimoBob>	let them send you a letter with what they want
Oct 21 07:02:16 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah im not doing shit until they contact me
Oct 21 07:03:10 <EskimoBob>	remember court order or they can go and fuck themselves
Oct 21 07:03:46 <EskimoBob>	especially if they ask for third party documents or what not
Oct 21 07:04:08 <Chaang-Noi>	they will have to ship me over from thailand
Oct 21 07:04:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda doubt they will anyway
Oct 21 07:04:34 <EskimoBob>	aren't you on a "wanted" list in US?
Oct 21 07:04:40 <Chaang-Noi>	unless pirate was doing some terrorist like shit
Oct 21 07:04:45 <EskimoBob>	not on The list :)
Oct 21 07:04:50 <EskimoBob>	but list never the less
Oct 21 07:04:59 <Chaang-Noi>	lol what list?
Oct 21 07:05:52 <EskimoBob>	I was reading somewhere that you are not really comfortable in US because of some old shit
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Oct 21 07:05:59 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Oct 21 07:06:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i was just in the usa
Oct 21 07:06:07 <EskimoBob>	:)
Oct 21 07:06:18 <EskimoBob>	yeah, something about you escaping to Thailand etc
Oct 21 07:06:28 <Chaang-Noi>	with pirate, i posted the photos lol
Oct 21 07:06:35 <EskimoBob>	I know
Oct 21 07:06:42 <Chaang-Noi>	was this something i wrote or someone else?
Oct 21 07:06:45 <EskimoBob>	that's why it sounded a bit strange
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Oct 21 07:07:12 <EskimoBob>	huh... I can not remember that
Oct 21 07:07:51 <EskimoBob>	lets talk more serious stuff.
Oct 21 07:08:23 <EskimoBob>	the assets-otc happening that's paling in the theater near you :)
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Oct 21 07:10:01 <EskimoBob>	i need to rise the coin to get this project off the ground but if assets-otc has problems (personal) I am not aware of, then this is kinda bad :(
Oct 21 07:10:32 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: or are you guys just "in love" like me and usagi? LOL :)
Oct 21 07:11:05 <Chaang-Noi>	poatir guy?
Oct 21 07:11:09 <EskimoBob>	yes
Oct 21 07:11:17 <EskimoBob>	piotr_n guy
Oct 21 07:11:28 <Chaang-Noi>	he just trolled my threads hard with crazy stuff like theymos and nefario were defruading my investors with me
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Oct 21 07:11:40 <Chaang-Noi>	i just trolled his thread to show people how crazy he was
Oct 21 07:11:46 <EskimoBob>	OK, that episode
Oct 21 07:11:48 <Chaang-Noi>	he is unstable.
Oct 21 07:11:59 <EskimoBob>	so it's just a trolling festival?
Oct 21 07:12:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i was doing everyone a favor
Oct 21 07:12:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i ws just fucking with him
Oct 21 07:12:07 <EskimoBob>	Unstable? how unstable? Like usagi?
Oct 21 07:12:19 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz he went into every thread i had and made shit up
Oct 21 07:12:43 <Chaang-Noi>	he thinks theymos and neferio are working with me to sell fake stocks on glbse
Oct 21 07:12:46 <Chaang-Noi>	and otehr crazy shit
Oct 21 07:13:02 <Chaang-Noi>	and he kicked you out at the drop of a hat for no reason
Oct 21 07:13:04 <EskimoBob>	yeah, i did read some.
Oct 21 07:13:18 <EskimoBob>	me?
Oct 21 07:13:33 <EskimoBob>	from where?
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Oct 21 07:13:59 <Diablo-D3>	TROLLS, TROLLS EVERYWHERE
Oct 21 07:14:03 <Chaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105437.msg1287486#msg1287486
Oct 21 07:14:08 <Chaang-Noi>	did yo uknow about this?
Oct 21 07:14:30 <Diablo-D3>	wat
Oct 21 07:14:33 <Diablo-D3>	wtf is assets otc
Oct 21 07:14:43 <EskimoBob>	wtf?
Oct 21 07:14:54 <Diablo-D3>	"you asset"
Oct 21 07:14:55 <EskimoBob>	i did not know that... shit. this guy is unstable
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Oct 21 07:15:05 <Diablo-D3>	HEY ESKIMO
Oct 21 07:15:07 <Diablo-D3>	YOU ASSET
Oct 21 07:15:20 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah he is unstable he is a nutter
Oct 21 07:15:40 <kakobrekla>	hm
Oct 21 07:15:57 <kakobrekla>	EskimoBob why?
Oct 21 07:16:01 <EskimoBob>	no idea why
Oct 21 07:16:13 <EskimoBob>	I was actually in his side and not goats
Oct 21 07:16:31 <kakobrekla>	well that sucks balls.
Oct 21 07:16:45 <EskimoBob>	I guess he did not like my comment about the drama
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Oct 21 07:17:15 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Oct 21 07:17:32 <EskimoBob>	fuck, this is really strange because I was promoting hes service, not getting in the middle of goats and piotrs fight and actually asking them to chill out
Oct 21 07:17:53 <Chaang-Noi>	he is crazy
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Oct 21 07:18:13 <Chaang-Noi>	i was just trolling him cuz i knew he would act liek this
Oct 21 07:18:17 <Chaang-Noi>	you should not trust him
Oct 21 07:18:21 <EskimoBob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105437.msg1285560#msg1285560 maybe this one?
Oct 21 07:19:12 <EskimoBob>	thanx man, I this piotr guy can go and fuck himself unless he apologises in that same forum thread
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Oct 21 07:22:57 <Diablo-D3>	ha ha
Oct 21 07:23:00 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob got nefarioed.
Oct 21 07:23:28 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Oct 21 07:23:42 <Chaang-Noi>	nefarioed :)
Oct 21 07:24:09 <Chaang-Noi>	you can tell him i was just fucking with him if you want :)
Oct 21 07:24:19 <Diablo-D3>	bad goat, no fucking with people
Oct 21 07:24:21 <leotreasure>	where is nefario?
Oct 21 07:24:28 <Diablo-D3>	leotreasure: hiding with kim dotcom
Oct 21 07:25:14 <Chaang-Noi>	meh, that guy had it coming
Oct 21 07:25:25 <Diablo-D3>	see
Oct 21 07:25:33 <Diablo-D3>	this is why I have not given much in the way of fucks over dmc
Oct 21 07:25:39 <Diablo-D3>	the entire community is full of assholes
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Oct 21 07:27:57 <kakobrekla>	i know a few that are not
Oct 21 07:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00043344 = 13.9568 BTC [+]
Oct 21 07:28:03 <Diablo-D3>	its rare
Oct 21 07:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4065 @ 0.00043494 = 1.768 BTC [+]
Oct 21 07:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00043515 = 0.5222 BTC [+]
Oct 21 07:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00043537 = 3.0911 BTC [+]
Oct 21 07:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6035 @ 0.00043551 = 2.6283 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 07:29:36 <kakobrekla>	;;getrating piotr_n
Oct 21 07:29:37 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
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Oct 21 07:29:51 <kakobrekla>	does he have otc ?
Oct 21 07:29:56 <EskimoBob>	;;getrating piotr_n
Oct 21 07:29:56 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Oct 21 07:30:08 <EskimoBob>	he is under different name
Oct 21 07:30:17 <EskimoBob>	tonikt
Oct 21 07:30:23 <EskimoBob>	;;getrating tonikt
Oct 21 07:30:23 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask tonikt!~tonikt@unaffiliated/tonikt . User tonikt, rated since Mon Jul  9 09:55:31 2012. Cumulative rating 6, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 7 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=tonikt
Oct 21 07:30:32 <kakobrekla>	jeez
Oct 21 07:30:38 <kakobrekla>	even i made txes with him.
Oct 21 07:31:13 <tonikt>	kakobrekla: do you have something against me?
Oct 21 07:31:16 <EskimoBob>	I am truly surprised that he acted like this with out any reason
Oct 21 07:31:28 <kakobrekla>	well im not particuraly fond of this semi random kicking out
Oct 21 07:31:32 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: wtf was that all about?
Oct 21 07:31:51 <EskimoBob>	do you understand that I was on your side?
Oct 21 07:32:06 <kakobrekla>	and well tbh, "If they are licking your balls, or compromising my reputation - yes!"
Oct 21 07:32:16 <kakobrekla>	i was checking the reputation being compromised
Oct 21 07:32:16 <Chaang-Noi>	im not, i knew he was crazy
Oct 21 07:32:36 <tonikt>	so you think goat, nefario an theymos are honest people?
Oct 21 07:32:44 <EskimoBob>	me?
Oct 21 07:32:46 <EskimoBob>	hell no
Oct 21 07:33:01 <EskimoBob>	theymos and neff are as bad as this trendon fuck
Oct 21 07:33:02 <tonikt>	I'm asking kakobrekla
Oct 21 07:33:08 <kakobrekla>	asking what
Oct 21 07:33:10 <tonikt>	With you EskimoBob, I'm done
Oct 21 07:33:10 <kakobrekla>	i told you
Oct 21 07:33:11 <EskimoBob>	goat is just strange :) honestly
Oct 21 07:33:14 <kakobrekla>	oh
Oct 21 07:33:20 <kakobrekla>	you mean about goat nef and theymos
Oct 21 07:33:23 <kakobrekla>	shady people
Oct 21 07:33:29 <kakobrekla>	goat is maybe just silly
Oct 21 07:33:32 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: what did I do?
Oct 21 07:33:41 <tonikt>	kakobrekla: Would you let them into your service?
Oct 21 07:33:43 <tonikt>	For free..
Oct 21 07:33:47 <kakobrekla>	sure
Oct 21 07:33:57 <tonikt>	Why?
Oct 21 07:33:57 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah im silly
Oct 21 07:33:59 <EskimoBob>	I am honestly surprised that you acted like that tonikt
Oct 21 07:34:06 <Chaang-Noi>	and yeah i can be a giant asshole at times :)
Oct 21 07:34:24 <kakobrekla>	i run bit4x and smpake, why would i disallow them to use it - i have no reason to
Oct 21 07:34:25 <kakobrekla>	and also
Oct 21 07:34:35 <kakobrekla>	what does EB have to do with it
Oct 21 07:34:41 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway guys, ill be back alter, time for a massage :)
Oct 21 07:34:44 <kakobrekla>	he is not theymos or goat
Oct 21 07:34:45 <kakobrekla>	or nefario
Oct 21 07:35:15 <EskimoBob>	i have promoted your service in almost every message lately and inviting pople over and now this
Oct 21 07:35:22 <EskimoBob>	people*
Oct 21 07:35:27 <kakobrekla>	you are acting imature tonikt
Oct 21 07:35:42 <EskimoBob>	for no reason at all!
Oct 21 07:35:43 <tonikt>	:)
Oct 21 07:36:13 <tonikt>	I'm just taking good care of the reputation of assets-otc
Oct 21 07:36:15 <kakobrekla>	for all i care pirate can open a forex account with me
Oct 21 07:36:24 <tonikt>	You don't like it - I dont care
Oct 21 07:36:40 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: you have no assets in otc any more
Oct 21 07:36:42 <kakobrekla>	whole community dont like -you dont care
Oct 21 07:36:45 <kakobrekla>	nobody will use you
Oct 21 07:36:55 <tonikt>	We will see
Oct 21 07:37:00 <EskimoBob>	running service like that you can not be such a drama queen and a fkn flip-flop
Oct 21 07:37:06 <kakobrekla>	indeed
Oct 21 07:37:40 <EskimoBob>	anyone can piss you off just by spelling your name wrong tonikt.
Oct 21 07:37:44 <EskimoBob>	lol
Oct 21 07:38:07 <tonikt>	EskimoBob: you were offending me back then, when I was saying that Goat and Nefario were crooks
Oct 21 07:38:09 <EskimoBob>	I am glad it happened so early and not on later time.
Oct 21 07:38:14 <tonikt>	Then I turned out be be right...
Oct 21 07:38:24 <kakobrekla>	lol
Oct 21 07:38:26 <tonikt>	You came asking me, aprologizing, if you can use my service
Oct 21 07:38:28 <EskimoBob>	back when?
Oct 21 07:38:37 <tonikt>	I let you in - but you did not learn the lesson
Oct 21 07:38:43 <tonikt>	And you have kept offending me
Oct 21 07:38:54 <kakobrekla>	tonikt where does he offend you?
Oct 21 07:38:57 <tonikt>	So, thats why I'm done with you
Oct 21 07:38:59 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Oct 21 07:39:08 <EskimoBob>	have I ? url please
Oct 21 07:39:13 <tonikt>	kakobrekla: are you his lawyer?
Oct 21 07:39:37 <kakobrekla>	yeah and he is paying reall well
Oct 21 07:39:52 <kakobrekla>	now url?
Oct 21 07:40:02 <EskimoBob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105437.msg1287459#msg1287459 ?
Oct 21 07:40:21 <tonikt>	Quite: "Chaang Noi, thank you for the warning. Good news is that assetc-otc owner has no access to issuers nor investors coin."
Oct 21 07:40:34 <tonikt>	Thats an offense for me
Oct 21 07:40:35 <EskimoBob>	" I had my share of word fights with piotr_n not too long ago but it's water under the bridge and all have moved on.
Oct 21 07:40:37 <EskimoBob>	The asstes-otc ideas has potential (if it gets a "trading" interface"
Oct 21 07:40:47 <kakobrekla>	lol
Oct 21 07:40:51 <kakobrekla>	this is hilarious
Oct 21 07:41:41 <oizotov>	soap opera ;]
Oct 21 07:42:07 <EskimoBob>	tonikt dude, you obviously have some serious issues. Sorry, I can not deal with someone as unstable as you and I can not recommend your services to anyone from now on
Oct 21 07:42:24 <EskimoBob>	fuck me... this is worst than soap opera... LOL
Oct 21 07:42:32 <tonikt>	I agree - I don't take it seriously, you do all the drama and I just do "update assets set delisted=1 where id=2" - and then just laugh... :)
Oct 21 07:42:48 <EskimoBob>	like damn emo-girls on their fkn periods
Oct 21 07:43:15 <Diablo-D3>	you mean like usagi?
Oct 21 07:43:15 <tonikt>	I know EskimoBob that you cannot deal with me - and that is because I will not allow you to deal with me amnymore
Oct 21 07:43:17 *	Diablo-D3 runs
Oct 21 07:43:25 <tonikt>	But, please keep dealing with Goat
Oct 21 07:43:26 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: you just demonstrated how fucked up up actually are :)
Oct 21 07:43:29 <tonikt>	He is your hero :)
Oct 21 07:43:39 <Diablo-D3>	trololololololo
Oct 21 07:43:47 <tonikt>	EskimoBob:  "fucked up" is quite a relative term :)
Oct 21 07:43:54 <EskimoBob>	he is not my fkn here you fool
Oct 21 07:44:00 <tonikt>	... so I'm tending to agree on it.. :)
Oct 21 07:44:09 <Diablo-D3>	SUPERGOAT TO THE RESCUE! FORM OF A BONG!
Oct 21 07:44:57 <tonikt>	Oh, I think he is...
Oct 21 07:45:13 <tonikt>	Don't deny your feelings
Oct 21 07:45:20 <EskimoBob>	just fuck off now tonikt, you need to grow up
Oct 21 07:45:27 <tonikt>	:)
Oct 21 07:45:52 <tonikt>	hey, you came to me - remember?
Oct 21 07:46:20 <tonikt>	you appologized for being a dick to me in a past
Oct 21 07:46:36 <tonikt>	and then you asked if you can get your shit listed at assets-otc
Oct 21 07:46:49 <tonikt>	and then i let you in
Oct 21 07:46:54 <EskimoBob>	yes
Oct 21 07:46:55 <tonikt>	and then you showed me your disrespect
Oct 21 07:46:59 <tonikt>	and then I delisted you
Oct 21 07:47:05 <EskimoBob>	and now you think that I have insulted you somehow?
Oct 21 07:47:08 <tonikt>	and now you tell me: fuck off
Oct 21 07:47:09 <Diablo-D3>	quickly tonikt, write an EskimoBob x goat fanfic
Oct 21 07:47:16 <Diablo-D3>	post it to the forums for great victory
Oct 21 07:47:30 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: respect is earned
Oct 21 07:47:33 <tonikt>	so, I would not be so sure that I am a one who needs to grow up
Oct 21 07:47:45 <EskimoBob>	and you just pissed it all away tonikt
Oct 21 07:47:57 <Diablo-D3>	man, whats with all this commentary about needing to grow up
Oct 21 07:47:59 <Diablo-D3>	only kids say that
Oct 21 07:48:16 <EskimoBob>	you delisted it with no reason.
Oct 21 07:48:33 <tonikt>	There was a reason
Oct 21 07:48:38 <EskimoBob>	what is that?
Oct 21 07:48:39 <tonikt>	A gave you a chance - and you blew it
Oct 21 07:48:45 <tonikt>	That's it
Oct 21 07:49:06 <EskimoBob>	i blew nothing :) you flipped out over nothing and acted like a asshat
Oct 21 07:49:18 <EskimoBob>	your loss tonikt
Oct 21 07:50:13 <tonikt>	Sure, my loss... what am I going to do now? :)
Oct 21 07:50:42 <tonikt>	I hope you guys understand that I do this project more as a hobby
Oct 21 07:51:07 <tonikt>	So there is no way that I am going to let anyone using my work for free while disrespectful to me at the same time
Oct 21 07:52:59 <EskimoBob>	LOL, I was one of the few guys actually on your side
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Oct 21 07:53:26 <kakobrekla>	13:50.45 ( tonikt ) I hope you guys understand that I do this project more as a hobby
Oct 21 07:53:41 <EskimoBob>	enough said
Oct 21 07:53:43 <kakobrekla>	meaning what exactly, with nefario those words ment he doenst give much fuck
Oct 21 07:54:24 <kakobrekla>	i dont think other peoples money + hobby doesnt go well together
Oct 21 07:54:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00043247 = 0.173 BTC [-]
Oct 21 07:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1981 @ 0.00043052 = 0.8529 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 07:54:53 <tonikt>	kakobrekla: do you have an idea what assets-otc is about?
Oct 21 07:55:09 <tonikt>	it's not an exchange like glbse was
Oct 21 07:55:15 <tonikt>	I dont touch any money
Oct 21 07:55:20 <kakobrekla>	well, if it was anything like bitcoin-otc there wouldnt have bans like that
Oct 21 07:55:34 <kakobrekla>	have been*
Oct 21 07:55:35 <tonikt>	but there are no bans
Oct 21 07:55:51 <tonikt>	EskimoBob can still log in and owe assets at the service
Oct 21 07:55:59 <tonikt>	he is just not allowed to be an asset issuer
Oct 21 07:56:12 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: dream on
Oct 21 07:56:14 <tonikt>	because I need to take care of the reputation of this service
Oct 21 07:56:21 <kakobrekla>	lol
Oct 21 07:56:31 <kakobrekla>	nanotube rep doenst go down if 10 scammers join otc
Oct 21 07:56:48 <EskimoBob>	absurd BS tonikt.
Oct 21 07:57:11 <EskimoBob>	you pissed on your "reputation" (that was low anyways) buy showing how unstable you can be
Oct 21 07:57:27 <tonikt>	kakobrekla: but nanotube does not hold onyone's bitcoins?
Oct 21 07:57:37 <tonikt>	while the asset issuers in my doervice do
Oct 21 07:57:45 <tonikt>	service*
Oct 21 07:57:48 <EskimoBob>	sorry man, I was really trying to promote your service.
Oct 21 07:58:07 <tonikt>	So I will go my best to protect the users from dishonest asset issuers
Oct 21 07:58:07 <kakobrekla>	egos collide.
Oct 21 07:58:09 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: so do not you hold any coin
Oct 21 07:58:34 <kakobrekla>	seriosusly girls, get your shit together.
Oct 21 07:58:58 <tonikt>	kakobrekla: well, it isnt me who has been crying here
Oct 21 07:59:04 <EskimoBob>	forget it, I am not going to waste my time on this egomaniac
Oct 21 07:59:09 <tonikt>	if any of us - it would rather be you :)
Oct 21 07:59:38 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: I d di not cry. I was just surprised what you did and your reason for this is ... how to put it ....
Oct 21 08:00:05 <tonikt>	And you are still surprised, despite my explanations
Oct 21 08:00:11 <tonikt>	And you are still crying
Oct 21 08:00:18 <tonikt>	Along with kakobrekla
Oct 21 08:00:32 <tonikt>	What can I tell you guys: my server - my rules
Oct 21 08:00:39 <kakobrekla>	tonikt now you are starting to insult me. :)
Oct 21 08:00:51 <tonikt>	kakobrekla: you started first
Oct 21 08:01:04 <tonikt>	I came here because you mentioned myh name in a negative contect
Oct 21 08:01:33 <tonikt>	Let me quote: jeez. even i made txes with him.
Oct 21 08:02:08 <tonikt>	So it seem like now you regret making txes with me back then
Oct 21 08:02:20 <kakobrekla>	lolwhat
Oct 21 08:02:23 <tonikt>	Well, it that makes you feel better: I regret it too :P
Oct 21 08:02:27 <kakobrekla>	how does this make sense
Oct 21 08:02:41 <tonikt>	Well you tell me - these are your words
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Oct 21 08:02:57 <tonikt>	Maybe we understand English differently
Oct 21 08:03:21 <kakobrekla>	yeah, i was wondering what otc ratings were behind the words "If they are licking your balls, or compromising my reputation - yes!"
Oct 21 08:03:30 <tonikt>	But your expression about making txes with me in the past came out as quite regretful
Oct 21 08:03:32 <kakobrekla>	to see what is there to destroy
Oct 21 08:03:39 <kakobrekla>	and i saw even i was a part of it
Oct 21 08:03:43 <kakobrekla>	thats about it
Oct 21 08:04:12 <tonikt>	kakobrekla: but you know that the person who I spoke these words to does not have any OTC rating
Oct 21 08:04:19 <tonikt>	because he says that OTC is shit
Oct 21 08:04:30 <tonikt>	(though that may not be an exact quite)
Oct 21 08:04:34 <tonikt>	quote*
Oct 21 08:05:04 <Diablo-D3>	[08:03:21] <kakobrekla> yeah, i was wondering what otc ratings were behind the words "If they are licking your balls, or compromising my reputation - yes!"
Oct 21 08:05:04 <Diablo-D3>	see
Oct 21 08:05:06 <Diablo-D3>	what I dont get is
Oct 21 08:05:12 <Diablo-D3>	why is that guy against homosexuality?
Oct 21 08:05:14 <tonikt>	So if you don't have the full picture, how dare you judging me by one sentence, not even spoken towards you?
Oct 21 08:05:16 <Diablo-D3>	its bad enough we have luke
Oct 21 08:05:41 <Diablo-D3>	Ball licking between two consensual adults is protected by the constitution.
Oct 21 08:05:47 <kakobrekla>	where is the judging?
Oct 21 08:06:10 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: implication that ball licking is bad
Oct 21 08:06:17 <tonikt>	yep
Oct 21 08:06:20 <tonikt>	:)
Oct 21 08:06:34 <kakobrekla>	meh
Oct 21 08:06:43 <tonikt>	and not seeing it as a metaphore
Oct 21 08:07:15 <tonikt>	fi you would have said "kiss ass" instead of "lick balls" - would that sound better to you?
Oct 21 08:07:38 <tonikt>	and would that be then acceptable?
Oct 21 08:07:43 <tonikt>	or still not...?
Oct 21 08:08:01 <Diablo-D3>	no one is kissing anyone's ass anyhow
Oct 21 08:08:06 <Diablo-D3>	eskimobob and goat are both forum trolls
Oct 21 08:08:14 <tonikt>	and btw
Oct 21 08:08:16 <tonikt>	;;getrating EskimoBob
Oct 21 08:08:16 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User eskimobob, rated since Sat Jun  4 09:35:57 2011. Cumulative rating -3, from 4 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 4 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=eskimobob
Oct 21 08:09:23 <kakobrekla>	you knew this before you let him be an issuer in assets otc?
Oct 21 08:10:00 <tonikt>	No - I gave him the benefit of the doubt
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Oct 21 08:10:14 <tonikt>	But as I said: he just blew it a few days later
Oct 21 08:10:14 <kakobrekla>	your mistake.
Oct 21 08:11:00 <tonikt>	And I don't see any harm done, so I do not understand why you are acting like EskimoBob was a victim and you were his advocate
Oct 21 08:11:15 <tonikt>	A minor mistake - and fixed already
Oct 21 08:11:22 <tonikt>	No harm done
Oct 21 08:13:14 <kakobrekla>	the lack of biz ethics in bitcoin bothers me
Oct 21 08:13:23 <kakobrekla>	thats this topic is interesting to me.
Oct 21 08:13:29 <kakobrekla>	thats why*
Oct 21 08:14:22 <tonikt>	biz ethics - wtf is this?
Oct 21 08:14:34 <kakobrekla>	exactly
Oct 21 08:14:36 <tonikt>	never heard about anything like this
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Oct 21 08:14:52 <tonikt>	why wont you teach me, then?
Oct 21 08:15:03 <tonikt>	I have the whole afternoon
Oct 21 08:15:12 <kakobrekla>	i dont
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Oct 21 08:16:19 <tonikt>	But tell me please, was it more the balls related sentence I spoke to Goat - or the fact that i fixed my mistake and kicked EskimoBob's asset out of my service - which one of the two violated the biz ethics?
Oct 21 08:16:24 <EskimoBob>	this drama and unstability is tiresome. I am glad that this little man flipped out so early and not at some later date. Egomaniacs and primadonnas are bad news and annoying
Oct 21 08:16:48 <Diablo-D3>	tonikt: they both trolled you and won
Oct 21 08:16:59 <EskimoBob>	I did not troll him at all Diablo-D3
Oct 21 08:17:12 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: you did too
Oct 21 08:17:18 <EskimoBob>	unless you have no idea wtf trolling means Diablo-D3 :)
Oct 21 08:17:19 <tonikt>	I dont care about they trolling me
Oct 21 08:17:23 <tonikt>	For me its fun
Oct 21 08:17:30 <EskimoBob>	how so Diablo-D3 ?
Oct 21 08:17:31 <tonikt>	And I dont care about EskimoBob neither Goat
Oct 21 08:17:32 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: you had a legitimate asset listed on his service, correct?
Oct 21 08:17:46 <tonikt>	I just wander what does kakobrekla have against me and my ethics?
Oct 21 08:17:47 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: yes
Oct 21 08:17:55 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: legitimate assets are considered trolling now
Oct 21 08:18:13 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: you have no ethics, obviously
Oct 21 08:18:30 <EskimoBob>	OK, Diablo-D3 LOL
Oct 21 08:18:39 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: srsly, ask nefario
Oct 21 08:18:41 <tonikt>	EskimoBob: as for your standards, I really hope that you see me like this :)
Oct 21 08:18:41 <Diablo-D3>	dohohohohohohohohoho
Oct 21 08:18:54 <tonikt>	a man with no ethics
Oct 21 08:19:06 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: are you sure you are a man?
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Oct 21 08:19:25 <tonikt>	EskimoBob: why would you care if I'm a man?
Oct 21 08:19:32 <EskimoBob>	maybe you are a lonely and angry girl?
Oct 21 08:19:36 <tonikt>	You do business with Goats daily
Oct 21 08:19:48 <EskimoBob>	do I ?
Oct 21 08:19:55 <EskimoBob>	I did not know that
Oct 21 08:20:20 <tonikt>	Well, not anymore, after your other hero Nefario shut down the webpage
Oct 21 08:20:32 <EskimoBob>	my hero?
Oct 21 08:20:37 <tonikt>	But you are still kissing Goats ass
Oct 21 08:20:39 <EskimoBob>	are you serious or just trolling?
Oct 21 08:20:47 <EskimoBob>	how do I kiss goats ass?
Oct 21 08:20:55 <tonikt>	Do I sound serious?
Oct 21 08:21:00 <EskimoBob>	Thanking him for a warning?
Oct 21 08:21:15 <tonikt>	Ho do you kiss his ass?
Oct 21 08:21:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00043154 = 14.5429 BTC [+]
Oct 21 08:21:26 <tonikt>	I just gave you a quote - look above
Oct 21 08:21:44 <EskimoBob>	i do not see it tonikt
Oct 21 08:21:49 <tonikt>	And I am sure I could find hundreds of such on bitcaoointalk
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Oct 21 08:22:07 <EskimoBob>	i thanked him for a warning and that was it.
Oct 21 08:22:09 <tonikt>	Then look closer
Oct 21 08:22:20 <EskimoBob>	worst thing is, he was RIGHT! you are unstable :)
Oct 21 08:22:56 <tonikt>	Oh, I am extremely stable - I just don't do business with crooks
Oct 21 08:23:10 <tonikt>	And as soon as I identify one, I just kick him out
Oct 21 08:23:14 <EskimoBob>	fuck dude, you are funny little man
Oct 21 08:23:22 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Oct 21 08:23:23 <EskimoBob>	OK, I am afk now. keep yapping
Oct 21 08:23:27 <tonikt>	But for all the other, nobody complains about my stability
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Oct 21 08:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	whoa wall of convo
Oct 21 08:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	im not reading this backlog >.<
Oct 21 08:24:20 <EskimoBob>	stability? you have none to complain about :P
Oct 21 08:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	who's tonikt ?
Oct 21 08:25:44 <tonikt>	mircea_popescu: assets-otc.com
Oct 21 08:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha ok.
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Oct 21 08:26:09 <mircea_popescu>	how's the copycat business?
Oct 21 08:26:40 <tonikt>	calm
Oct 21 08:26:56 <tonikt>	Definietlly less profitable than yours
Oct 21 08:27:14 <tonikt>	I's actually say: a negative profit :)
Oct 21 08:28:01 <mircea_popescu>	ya well...
Oct 21 08:28:01 <tonikt>	But it does have a future - best security a man can get so after all the other exchanges get hacked, robbed or closed - mine will be the only one left :)
Oct 21 08:28:18 <tonikt>	At least that's the plan :)
Oct 21 08:28:19 <mircea_popescu>	dude, you're just another misguided youth.
Oct 21 08:28:30 <tonikt>	Man, I'm 36
Oct 21 08:28:32 <mircea_popescu>	thinking you can replicate the things by copying what you perceive of their surface.
Oct 21 08:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	that's sad.
Oct 21 08:28:41 <mircea_popescu>	you should be 18ish.
Oct 21 08:28:53 <tonikt>	You obviously dont understand my system if you think I copied your idea
Oct 21 08:29:04 <mircea_popescu>	obviously.
Oct 21 08:29:08 <tonikt>	I told you: I dont even know what your idea is about
Oct 21 08:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	also, you are completely new and surprising,
Oct 21 08:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	innovative and will take over the world.
Oct 21 08:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	at least... that's the plan.
Oct 21 08:30:07 <tonikt>	Well, I cannot be 18 anymore - thats one thing for sure
Oct 21 08:30:15 <tonikt>	But as for the rest... we will see
Oct 21 08:30:24 <tonikt>	Time will show
Oct 21 08:30:42 <mircea_popescu>	english isn't your native tongue is it ?
Oct 21 08:30:47 <tonikt>	no
Oct 21 08:31:36 <tonikt>	but I can swear in english pretty well :P
Oct 21 08:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	you mean curse ?
Oct 21 08:32:00 <tonikt>	yes
Oct 21 08:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	always a good skill to have.
Oct 21 08:33:20 <tonikt>	usually some first words you learn in a language
Oct 21 08:34:03 <Chaang-Noi>	Diablo-D3> eskimobob and goat are both forum trolls           <---   I troll to make a point.. i have skills :)
Oct 21 08:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	so does he.
Oct 21 08:35:19 <Chaang-Noi>	<EskimoBob> this drama and unstability is tiresome. I am glad that this little man flipped out so early and not at some later date. Egomaniacs and primadonnas are bad news and annoying      <---   this is why i was trolling, i wanted him to go nuts sooner rather than later
Oct 21 08:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	who ?!
Oct 21 08:36:36 <tonikt>	oh, they keep exploiting the fact that I kicked out EskimoBob's asset from assets-otc
Oct 21 08:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;echo Chaang-Noi who ?
Oct 21 08:36:40 <gribble>	Chaang-Noi who ?
Oct 21 08:36:43 <tonikt>	like I cared :)
Oct 21 08:37:04 <kakobrekla>	oh come on Chaang-Noi, you find a reason in aftermath for everything you do
Oct 21 08:37:24 <Chaang-Noi>	no, i even sent a pm about it to scholastic
Oct 21 08:37:30 <Chaang-Noi>	im not kidding
Oct 21 08:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	jesus there's so much nothing happening in btc every day i find it impossible to keep track
Oct 21 08:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	anyone has cliffnotes ?
Oct 21 08:37:48 <Chaang-Noi>	as soon as i found out who was running that service i went there to fuck with his head
Oct 21 08:38:09 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobrekla read the thread, im clearly trolling with him and trying to provoke him
Oct 21 08:38:21 <Chaang-Noi>	he just going nuts on eskimobob was unexpected
Oct 21 08:38:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i just assume i would make him look crazy with his conspiricy theorys
Oct 21 08:38:54 <tonikt>	EskimoBob: so now you see who to blame - Goat provoked me to kick you out :)
Oct 21 08:39:01 <Chaang-Noi>	he did more than i expected but that was my goat...
Oct 21 08:39:07 <Chaang-Noi>	gaol*
Oct 21 08:39:22 <tonikt>	.... and I just could not stand the pressure the guy put onto me :)
Oct 21 08:39:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont have you on ignore mircea
Oct 21 08:39:39 <kakobrekla>	14:37.51 ( Chaang-Noi ) as soon as i found out who was running that service i went there to fuck with his head < - so you are saying you had something against tonikt before this drama now? what was it?
Oct 21 08:40:05 <Chaang-Noi>	go read the thread, he went into all my asset threads and made silly claims about me selling fake bonds
Oct 21 08:40:15 <Chaang-Noi>	he even called neferio and theymos as pat of my bitches
Oct 21 08:40:18 <Chaang-Noi>	that they lied for me
Oct 21 08:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	so to make a long story short, eskimobobby launched some asset (was it that recording studio thing ?) and tonikt pulled a nefario/goat thing ?
Oct 21 08:40:22 <Chaang-Noi>	this guy is a nutter
Oct 21 08:40:32 <Chaang-Noi>	yes mircea
Oct 21 08:40:37 <Chaang-Noi>	more or less
Oct 21 08:40:42 <mircea_popescu>	fascinating. so meta...
Oct 21 08:40:50 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu :D
Oct 21 08:40:51 <Chaang-Noi>	the thing is, we dont know why he did it
Oct 21 08:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean why ?! TO BE A REAL EXCHANGE
Oct 21 08:41:17 <Chaang-Noi>	Kakobrekla you should read the thread, and see all the crazy attacks he has made aginst me
Oct 21 08:41:35 <tonikt>	mircea_popescu: unlike you I dont run an exchange
Oct 21 08:41:38 <kakobrekla>	i dont have time currently if its not a single post.
Oct 21 08:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla didja see live.coinbr btw ?
Oct 21 08:41:46 <kakobrekla>	no
Oct 21 08:42:03 <kakobrekla>	aha
Oct 21 08:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	mmm was it live.coinbr.com i think
Oct 21 08:42:19 <jurov>	yes
Oct 21 08:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	ya that's it
Oct 21 08:42:23 <kakobrekla>	cute :)
Oct 21 08:43:02 *	kakobrekla approves
Oct 21 08:43:09 <jurov>	mircea i really appreciate you puting in faq :)
Oct 21 08:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, it has all that css ;/
Oct 21 08:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	jurov hehe sure.
Oct 21 08:44:55 <jurov>	tonikt, while you are here, can you please explain why you aren't same thing as mpex?
Oct 21 08:45:20 <tonikt>	because mpex holds  bitcoins
Oct 21 08:45:22 <Chaang-Noi>	mpex is trusted and stable :)
Oct 21 08:45:24 <tonikt>	while I don't
Oct 21 08:45:48 <Chaang-Noi>	tonikt why did you think nefario lied and let me sell "counterfit" bonds?
Oct 21 08:46:03 <Chaang-Noi>	why do you keep calling him "my bitch"
Oct 21 08:46:04 <tonikt>	I only help to process PGP signed contracts and the bitcoin payments go over the counter
Oct 21 08:46:14 <Chaang-Noi>	are you not aware of our relationship? :)
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Oct 21 08:46:49 <tonikt>	.. plus lets face it: mpex looks like shit :)
Oct 21 08:47:07 <tonikt>	while the UI of my service is pretty intuitive
Oct 21 08:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00043154 = 1.4888 BTC [+]
Oct 21 08:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6559 @ 0.00043237 = 2.8359 BTC [+]
Oct 21 08:47:19 <jurov>	tonikt, where is the advantage to selling assets over bitcoin-otc directly?
Oct 21 08:47:40 <tonikt>	paying dividends
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Oct 21 08:47:58 <Chaang-Noi>	with tonikt you get to trust the assets will be delisted almost at random, lol
Oct 21 08:48:04 <jurov>	and talking about UI, bitcoin-otc at least has some order book, do you have one?
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Oct 21 08:48:23 <tonikt>	Since the page helps to keep the account balanaces it can help to pay out dividends, proportionally to the share owned
Oct 21 08:49:55 <tonikt>	jurov: If you were an asset issuer, you'd definitely prefer to use the system like assets-otc, rather than keep all the books manually
Oct 21 08:50:37 <tonikt>	It automates a pretty huge part of the bureaucracy behind bookkeeping
Oct 21 08:50:46 <jurov>	okay, that's nice but i'm asking about order book atm.
Oct 21 08:51:08 <tonikt>	order book - I just suggest to use the OTC one
Oct 21 08:51:19 <tonikt>	why to re-invent the wheel
Oct 21 08:52:09 <jurov>	oh, then you are NOT an exchange. just some app to help asset issuers.
Oct 21 08:52:45 <tonikt>	exactly
Oct 21 08:53:04 <tonikt>	I'm saying it all the time - but people just dont seem to get it
Oct 21 08:53:41 <tonikt>	You can store assets at assets-otc, you get a PGP signed receipts, but it is not  a trading platform
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Oct 21 08:56:05 <jurov>	hm.. wouldn't that work much better as desktop app, at least for asset holders?
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Oct 21 08:56:28 <tonikt>	assets-otc is more like a bitcoin wallet, rather than a bitcoin exchange
Oct 21 08:56:43 <tonikt>	jurov: isn't a web browser also a desktop app?
Oct 21 08:57:07 <tonikt>	plus of course, to handle the service you need a desktop app: GnuPG
Oct 21 08:57:30 <jurov>	as seen in the past, some will rather die than to copy/paste text to gpg and paste the result back to browser
Oct 21 08:57:40 <tonikt>	I know
Oct 21 08:57:49 <jurov>	it shouldn't be hard to streamline
Oct 21 08:57:59 <tonikt>	But my service is for other customers
Oct 21 08:58:16 <tonikt>	The rkey requirement is: security
Oct 21 08:58:51 <tonikt>	Even the dividend payment  tool was designed and made in a way that you can use it offline
Oct 21 08:59:09 <tonikt>	At a PC that has never been connected to a network
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Oct 21 09:00:18 <tonikt>	You just download an archive with the entire history of your assets transaction - it's a zip file with PGP signed contracts inside and the keys
Oct 21 09:00:47 <tonikt>	You take this zip file to an offline PC, setup how many BTC you want to pay and run the tool..
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Oct 21 09:01:05 <jurov>	so, dividend issuers have a nice tool they'll need maybe once a month... but end users shall fumble with gpg and browserevery time they trade?
Oct 21 09:01:28 *	jurov totally approves
Oct 21 09:01:33 <tonikt>	And then the tool process the contracts one by one verifying signatures - to calculate the final balance and output a proper sendmany RPC command
Oct 21 09:01:48 <tonikt>	jurov: yes
Oct 21 09:02:15 <tonikt>	But don't the end users care about the security of their assets?
Oct 21 09:02:43 <jurov>	tell me, why should be a desktop app that just calls gpg insecure?
Oct 21 09:02:57 <tonikt>	I think they do - and so eventually, after another exchange crashes, they will finally understand that a system like assets-otc is the only ultimatelly secured solution
Oct 21 09:03:37 <tonikt>	jurov: I'm not saying that a desktop app would not be secured
Oct 21 09:04:27 <tonikt>	but it would be kind of hard to distribute a new desktop app (in binary version, I presume) with the same kind of trust as the old fasion gpg has already
Oct 21 09:04:45 <tonikt>	I mean: bitcoin-otc has been using it - so people know how to handle it
Oct 21 09:04:51 <tonikt>	At least some people...
Oct 21 09:05:19 <tonikt>	I guess you could ask the same question to nanotube: why he did not come out with a desktop app, instead on the bot?
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Oct 21 09:05:48 *	jurov points in direction of pyMPEx with its notoriously insecure means of distribution
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Oct 21 09:12:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25941 @ 0.00043237 = 11.2161 BTC [+]
Oct 21 09:12:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1759 @ 0.00043324 = 0.7621 BTC [+]
Oct 21 09:12:36 <tonikt>	Definitelly assets-otc is not for daily traders
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Oct 21 09:13:37 <tonikt>	... but more for long time investors, who dont mind to copy/past gpg stuff one a month or so, just to make sure that nobody will put hands on their assets/bitcoins during the process
Oct 21 09:16:23 <tonikt>	And in practice it's not harder to use it than bitcoin-otc
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Oct 21 09:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00043262 = 4.6723 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 09:56:33 <pigeons>	;;rate EskimoBob good dealings
Oct 21 09:56:34 <gribble>	Error: 'good' is not a valid integer.
Oct 21 09:56:40 <pigeons>	;;rate EskimoBob 2 good dealings
Oct 21 09:56:42 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user EskimoBob has been recorded.
Oct 21 10:02:26 <EskimoBob>	Thank you pigeons. I have your coin BTW. As you know, tonikt got mad and delisted my project. I am going to look for another listing option. Do you want me to send you back your coin?
Oct 21 10:03:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00043059 = 3.1433 BTC [-]
Oct 21 10:03:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23319 @ 0.00043052 = 10.0393 BTC [-]
Oct 21 10:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00042888 = 4.7606 BTC [-]
Oct 21 10:04:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 781 @ 0.00042837 = 0.3346 BTC [-]
Oct 21 10:05:59 <pigeons>	I'd prefer if you issue an OT contract, even if its on an OT server i have to setup
Oct 21 10:06:26 <pigeons>	we'll figure something out
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Oct 21 10:11:10 <EskimoBob>	tonikt: you forgot to mention that your security = delisted at any time you are in a bad mood
Oct 21 10:12:23 <EskimoBob>	jurov: OT has all that functionality with 2 major differences -  you can not be delisted by a moody joker and it has quoting system
Oct 21 10:13:22 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: I think I am going the OT way and I'll find someone who issues the BTC derivative or do it myself as a market maker
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Oct 21 10:14:11 <EskimoBob>	I am going to use the contract I have up in the forum and the divs will be around 20% a year
Oct 21 10:14:24 <EskimoBob>	or more
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Oct 21 10:16:40 *	EskimoBob laughs because he got a live lesson on "do not trust moody jokers"
Oct 21 10:18:16 <Diablo-D3>	heh, I got that lesson with nefario =/
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Oct 21 10:19:13 <EskimoBob>	Nefario is another type of asshole. This pior_n fuck just wasted my time :)
Oct 21 10:21:50 <EskimoBob>	if we get the securities out of the GLBSE, we can move on but assets-otc is out for good. It offers nothing that OT can not
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Oct 21 10:23:38 <Diablo-D3>	heh
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Oct 21 10:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.00042851 = 16.1977 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 10:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6290 @ 0.00043198 = 2.7172 BTC [+]
Oct 21 10:54:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27110 @ 0.00043262 = 11.7283 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 11:19:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7276 @ 0.00042919 = 3.1228 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 11:34:33 <grubles>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 21 11:34:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00295636 / 0.0034 (1865953 shares, 5,516.44 BTC)
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Oct 21 11:45:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34057 @ 0.00042896 = 14.6091 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 12:10:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8667 @ 0.00042896 = 3.7178 BTC [-]
Oct 21 12:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7990 @ 0.00043262 = 3.4566 BTC [+]
Oct 21 12:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31143 @ 0.00043324 = 13.4924 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 12:36:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14975 @ 0.00042837 = 6.4148 BTC [-]
Oct 21 12:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7525 @ 0.00042837 = 3.2235 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 13:02:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00042946 = 10.8653 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 13:05:25 <thestringpuller>	anyone alive out there?
Oct 21 13:09:55 <jurov>	in chatty mood?
Oct 21 13:11:44 <FabianB>	too much drama in this room today
Oct 21 13:12:20 <thestringpuller>	it's just been dead lately
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Oct 21 13:15:45 <thestringpuller>	i heard last night Patrick Harnett is defaulting
Oct 21 13:16:41 <jurov>	*will be
Oct 21 13:16:53 <jurov>	so, what gives?
Oct 21 13:17:21 <thestringpuller>	that kinda surprises me but not
Oct 21 13:17:32 <thestringpuller>	a lot of people trusted him, more than pirate...
Oct 21 13:18:27 <copumpkin>	thestringpuller: you heard with no provided evidence?
Oct 21 13:19:12 <jurov>	only mircea is thinking that
Oct 21 13:19:37 <jurov>	but why not spread juicy rumor?
Oct 21 13:19:50 <copumpkin>	I'm not saying he won't :) just saying it's pure speculation at this point, unless we can get more evidence
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Oct 21 13:20:20 <thestringpuller>	:( dominos
Oct 21 13:20:23 <thestringpuller>	if he does that is
Oct 21 13:21:22 <thestringpuller>	faith in the btc economy is going down :(
Oct 21 13:21:31 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: here is the ART projects "mug" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102010.msg1288071#msg1288071 it's obviously not completed yet and now is the time to get your BTC account number or name on it
Oct 21 13:21:55 <copumpkin>	oh nice
Oct 21 13:22:15 <EskimoBob>	if this thing gets the first round of fire, it's game over
Oct 21 13:22:30 <EskimoBob>	copumpkin: what that to me?
Oct 21 13:22:35 <copumpkin>	yup
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Oct 21 13:22:52 <copumpkin>	quite the mug shot you have there
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Oct 21 13:23:01 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 21 13:23:02 <EskimoBob>	:) thanx
Oct 21 13:23:27 <thestringpuller>	I may buy one
Oct 21 13:23:28 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 21 13:23:34 <thestringpuller>	cool as shi
Oct 21 13:23:36 <thestringpuller>	shit*
Oct 21 13:23:39 <jurov>	i like it too... if things go well, maybe there will be some mugs with mermaids :)
Oct 21 13:23:42 <copumpkin>	shit is cool?
Oct 21 13:23:55 <EskimoBob>	I think the numbers can be embossed around the B
Oct 21 13:24:40 <EskimoBob>	jurov: you can get anything on it if the price is right :)
Oct 21 13:25:51 <EskimoBob>	I think this has to go for 5 BTC and you get 5 BTC worth of shares too
Oct 21 13:26:09 <jurov>	wondering how much would cost hand-etched QR code
Oct 21 13:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25726 @ 0.00042946 = 11.0483 BTC [+]
Oct 21 13:29:51 <EskimoBob>	jurov: there is a technique that can be used to "print" in on the clay. This is not really printing like they do in china etc
Oct 21 13:30:37 <jurov>	EskimoBob, you can make mugs with embedded private key, if you break it you'll get the key, like casascius coins
Oct 21 13:31:07 <EskimoBob>	if you want it, you can order one one with QR code
Oct 21 13:31:19 <jurov>	hehe I now expect some % from sales of such mugs
Oct 21 13:31:25 <EskimoBob>	jurov: problem is, that this stuff gets burned at 1230+ C
Oct 21 13:31:40 <EskimoBob>	everything melts at that temperature
Oct 21 13:32:09 <EskimoBob>	I can make you a tiny box, that has a tiny clay slab in it with the number
Oct 21 13:32:32 <jurov>	"Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C (2500°F)"
Oct 21 13:32:45 <EskimoBob>	or even use porcelain
Oct 21 13:33:08 <jurov>	so maybe steel engraved plate would withstand that
Oct 21 13:33:14 <EskimoBob>	i think the firing is close to that.
Oct 21 13:33:49 <EskimoBob>	no it will not. They use some special alloy and this is only metal that can be inside there
Oct 21 13:34:49 <thestringpuller>	I will take one EskimoBob
Oct 21 13:34:59 <thestringpuller>	will the B be the same color as the Bitcoin icon?
Oct 21 13:35:15 <jurov>	then maybe leave a slit in the bottom, put the code in after burning and close with epoxy
Oct 21 13:36:15 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: OK, one for you at 5 BTC + 100 sharer of ART
Oct 21 13:36:49 <EskimoBob>	B I can make it yellow if you like. Is there some color you hate thestringpuller
Oct 21 13:36:54 <thestringpuller>	I will put down a deposite when I see post glaze
Oct 21 13:37:02 <thestringpuller>	nah Just make it look like an official btc mug
Oct 21 13:37:03 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 21 13:37:10 <thestringpuller>	the orange-y color they use
Oct 21 13:37:17 <EskimoBob>	but if I put your umber in there, I can not sell it to anyone else
Oct 21 13:37:35 <EskimoBob>	I have never seen that cup
Oct 21 13:37:47 <EskimoBob>	Orange... hmm, I can find some interesting orange
Oct 21 13:37:53 <thestringpuller>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/File:BC_Logo_.png
Oct 21 13:38:01 <thestringpuller>	like that icon
Oct 21 13:38:11 <thestringpuller>	that's how I imagine the logo looking
Oct 21 13:38:22 <EskimoBob>	yes, something like that can be done.
Oct 21 13:38:27 <jurov>	or paint it with shiny metallic gold, lol
Oct 21 13:38:32 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 21 13:38:38 <thestringpuller>	so 70's
Oct 21 13:38:43 <EskimoBob>	jurov: LOL
Oct 21 13:39:24 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: send me your BTC account number that you want on the cup
Oct 21 13:39:57 <thestringpuller>	I'm working on a vanity address
Oct 21 13:40:01 <thestringpuller>	i have an eeepc
Oct 21 13:40:05 <thestringpuller>	do the math :\
Oct 21 13:40:11 <EskimoBob>	huh
Oct 21 13:41:43 <thestringpuller>	i'm seraching for a 8 first bits vanity address
Oct 21 13:41:47 <thestringpuller>	and my computer is slow
Oct 21 13:41:57 <jurov>	u mean bytes, no?
Oct 21 13:42:49 <EskimoBob>	so you are generating huge pile of account to get the letters/numbers you want?
Oct 21 13:43:02 <jurov>	yes, vanitygen does that
Oct 21 13:43:06 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 21 13:43:10 <thestringpuller>	vanitygen
Oct 21 13:43:47 <jurov>	it took me overnight to find out 1CoinBr * on athlon x4
Oct 21 13:43:53 <EskimoBob>	I guess we WILL run out of account numbers sooner than expected ... LOL
Oct 21 13:44:54 <thestringpuller>	i'm looking for 1string
Oct 21 13:45:03 <thestringpuller>	I might do 1love
Oct 21 13:46:14 <EskimoBob>	while it generates accounts, you probably have some other cool stuff in there that you did not think of in the first place
Oct 21 13:46:32 <EskimoBob>	or are they "deleted" so you never see those?
Oct 21 13:47:33 <jurov>	1oveTLhBmvCgeBUbk2FY2Q67hv8SMyG5L
Oct 21 13:48:15 <jurov>	i got 929.49 Kkey/s... who would check *that* for anything?
Oct 21 13:48:56 <thestringpuller>	i have 15 keys/ sec
Oct 21 13:49:03 <thestringpuller>	it's gonna take days
Oct 21 13:49:25 <jurov>	omg... get some vps and crunch it there
Oct 21 13:50:27 <jurov>	maybe rg can take pity at you and give you some :)
Oct 21 13:51:06 <thestringpuller>	yay eeepcs
Oct 21 13:51:19 <thestringpuller>	i'll use my i5
Oct 21 13:53:30 <jurov>	fuck yeah zurich supercomputer is mining... see last block
Oct 21 13:54:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6074 @ 0.00042946 = 2.6085 BTC [+]
Oct 21 13:54:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26926 @ 0.00043103 = 11.6059 BTC [+]
Oct 21 13:54:42 <thestringpuller>	lol!
Oct 21 14:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20690 @ 0.00042837 = 8.863 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 14:40:22 <kakobrekla>	evenin
Oct 21 14:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00042872 = 12.9045 BTC [+]
Oct 21 14:45:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00043103 = 2.6293 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 15:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00042982 = 13.4534 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 15:38:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00042982 = 6.7912 BTC [-]
Oct 21 15:38:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1304 @ 0.00042837 = 0.5586 BTC [-]
Oct 21 15:38:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11896 @ 0.00042836 = 5.0958 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 16:03:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 404 @ 0.00042836 = 0.1731 BTC [-]
Oct 21 16:03:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.0004283 = 14.1339 BTC [-]
Oct 21 16:03:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1796 @ 0.00042826 = 0.7692 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 16:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00042826 = 7.0235 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 16:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9004 @ 0.00042826 = 3.8561 BTC [-]
Oct 21 16:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.0004282 = 0.3978 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 17:06:24 <jurov>	http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2012/10/10-reasons-you-should-vote-for-me-for-president/ complete hooot
Oct 21 17:06:44 <jurov>	"Canadian slave labor force" i cannot even...
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Oct 21 17:11:04 <thestringpuller>	selling scame coins
Oct 21 17:11:15 <thestringpuller>	jkk
Oct 21 17:11:18 <thestringpuller>	jkjk*
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Oct 21 17:19:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7171 @ 0.0004282 = 3.0706 BTC [-]
Oct 21 17:19:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00042813 = 12.9723 BTC [-]
Oct 21 17:19:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2829 @ 0.00042811 = 1.2111 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 17:45:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26160 @ 0.00043102 = 11.2755 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 18:11:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00042821 = 0.4282 BTC [-]
Oct 21 18:11:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12611 @ 0.00042811 = 5.3989 BTC [-]
Oct 21 18:17:30 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin-assets the dead channel
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Oct 21 18:39:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5860 @ 0.00042811 = 2.5087 BTC [-]
Oct 21 18:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00042808 = 1.7979 BTC [-]
Oct 21 18:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11804 @ 0.00042801 = 5.0522 BTC [-]
Oct 21 18:41:42 <kakobrekla>	thestringpuller repeating that makes it not.
Oct 21 18:42:23 <kakobrekla>	we had plenty of drama here today
Oct 21 18:43:03 <thestringpuller>	Drama?
Oct 21 18:43:27 <kakobrekla>	aha
Oct 21 18:44:15 <thestringpuller>	Not comedy?
Oct 21 18:44:37 <thestringpuller>	But in all seriousness, what kind of drama, lemme check logs
Oct 21 18:47:36 <thestringpuller>	I don't see much drama...
Oct 21 18:47:38 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla:
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Oct 21 19:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00042953 = 3.7799 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 19:31:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00042953 = 6.8725 BTC [+]
Oct 21 19:33:25 <Diablo-D3>	http://imgur.com/gallery/rhPlU
Oct 21 19:33:34 <Diablo-D3>	dare someone to post that as a reply to goat on the forums
Oct 21 19:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 21 19:39:40 <thestringpuller>	hat drama is going on?
Oct 21 19:39:43 <thestringpuller>	what*
Oct 21 19:39:59 <thestringpuller>	I'll post it
Oct 21 19:40:08 <thestringpuller>	for .5 btc
Oct 21 19:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol how's that worth 6 dollars ?
Oct 21 19:42:31 <thestringpuller>	I'm just hustlin' man gotta get dat papuh
Oct 21 19:42:42 <thestringpuller>	you gettin' your papuh right?
Oct 21 19:43:37 <Diablo-D3>	http://imgur.com/gallery/QnMOm
Oct 21 19:43:40 <Diablo-D3>	the wrath of god
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Oct 21 19:48:52 <thestringpuller>	what is goat saying on the forums
Oct 21 19:51:24 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: who knows
Oct 21 19:51:29 <Diablo-D3>	just find a thread and be like BAM
Oct 21 19:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	"once the news about what we are talking about gets out, MPEX will be under huge pressure, if they want or not"
Oct 21 19:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	how's that pressure coming along btw ?
Oct 21 19:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	takes moar than two weeks ?
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Oct 21 19:52:24 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: china is jerking as fast as they can
Oct 21 19:52:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 21 19:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://buckworthsolicitors.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Michael-Buckworth-271-x-302.jpg <<< does this look like an internet lawyer or what!
Oct 21 19:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18777 @ 0.00042873 = 8.0503 BTC [-]
Oct 21 19:57:12 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: internet lawyer is another word for douchebag, yeah?
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Oct 21 19:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
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Oct 21 20:14:08 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: why do all british lawyers have funny teeth...
Oct 21 20:14:19 <thestringpuller>	like steve buscemi
Oct 21 20:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, custard pie ?
Oct 21 20:17:46 <thestringpuller>	so what's new mircea?
Oct 21 20:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00042953 = 10.094 BTC [+]
Oct 21 20:21:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4319 @ 0.00042961 = 1.8555 BTC [+]
Oct 21 20:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller not much really.
Oct 21 20:23:42 <thestringpuller>	what time is it over there?
Oct 21 20:23:46 <thestringpuller>	4AM or something?
Oct 21 20:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	3
Oct 21 20:32:01 <thestringpuller>	do you know of any C based web frameworks?
Oct 21 20:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	you mean cgi ?
Oct 21 20:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	.g common gateway interface
Oct 21 20:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	omg still no markac!
Oct 21 20:33:05 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Oct 21 20:33:57 <thestringpuller>	i guess that would work
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Oct 21 20:48:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15776 @ 0.00042873 = 6.7636 BTC [-]
Oct 21 21:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6147 @ 0.00042873 = 2.6354 BTC [-]
Oct 21 21:14:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4996 @ 0.00042801 = 2.1383 BTC [-]
Oct 21 21:14:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7952 @ 0.00042792 = 3.4028 BTC [-]
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Oct 21 21:39:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7081 @ 0.00042961 = 3.0421 BTC [+]
Oct 21 21:39:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34619 @ 0.0004306 = 14.9069 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 22:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1981 @ 0.0004306 = 0.853 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:04:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21340 @ 0.00043102 = 9.198 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2174 @ 0.00043103 = 0.9371 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:05:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4505 @ 0.00043194 = 1.9459 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33295 @ 0.00043194 = 14.3814 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39456 @ 0.00043254 = 17.0663 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52202 @ 0.00043312 = 22.6097 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24098 @ 0.00043324 = 10.4402 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00043347 = 13.1341 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00043349 = 8.7998 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00043438 = 12.4667 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00043463 = 4.7375 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00043475 = 12.0426 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00043511 = 6.3526 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1265 @ 0.00043551 = 0.5509 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00043591 = 4.1847 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48105 @ 0.00043599 = 20.9733 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48428 @ 0.00043602 = 21.1156 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55200 @ 0.00043607 = 24.0711 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22029 @ 0.00043623 = 9.6097 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.00043626 = 18.4538 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00043645 = 1.8767 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32797 @ 0.00043646 = 14.3146 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14469 @ 0.00043652 = 6.316 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36035 @ 0.00043675 = 15.7383 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00043688 = 11.0531 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3686 @ 0.00043699 = 1.6107 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4541 @ 0.00043756 = 1.987 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00043766 = 21.4453 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00043772 = 14.6198 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56900 @ 0.00043772 = 24.9063 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.00043805 = 20.8074 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.0004381 = 9.1563 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37675 @ 0.00043888 = 16.5348 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44711 @ 0.00043908 = 19.6317 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:52 <Diablo-D3>	wat
Oct 21 22:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00043928 = 18.7573 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.0004397 = 20.3141 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47600 @ 0.00043979 = 20.934 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96386 @ 0.00044 = 42.4098 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00044014 = 0.4401 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00044033 = 10.7441 BTC [+]
Oct 21 22:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22022 @ 0.00044061 = 9.7031 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 22:26:17 <thestringpuller>	mpoe blew up
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Oct 21 22:29:02 <gigavps>	thestringpuller what happened to mpoe?
Oct 21 22:31:05 <kakobrekla>	!ticker s.mpoe
Oct 21 22:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00042792 / 0.00043299 / 0.00044061 (2641504 shares, 1,143.76 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00036942 / 0.00046059 (90162666 shares, 33,308.55 BTC)
Oct 21 22:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 29629 @ 0.003375 = 99.9979 BTC [-]
Oct 21 22:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, new max
Oct 21 22:37:46 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, "Good news. We have figured out a solution for this problem. Bitmit is not going to be sold. Business as usual. We are sorry for the insecurity this may have caused."
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Oct 21 22:57:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121019141254.htm i wonder how concerned we should be
Oct 21 22:59:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00043317 = 10.3094 BTC [-]
Oct 21 23:02:17 <thestringpuller>	not scared at all
Oct 21 23:02:21 <thestringpuller>	?
Oct 21 23:02:32 <thestringpuller>	quantum computing is very expensive field mircea_popescu
Oct 21 23:03:24 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Oct 21 23:03:38 <thestringpuller>	it's like antimatter
Oct 21 23:04:22 <thestringpuller>	"In 2006, Gerald Smith estimated $250 million could produce 10 milligrams of positrons[38] (equivalent to $25 billion per gram)"
Oct 21 23:05:24 <thestringpuller>	Bitmit didn't get sold?
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Oct 21 23:05:50 <noagendamarket>	think they pulled the sale
Oct 21 23:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	no, apparently the bids on that were just as fake as all therest
Oct 21 23:06:03 <mircea_popescu>	and so they ended up selling to themselves so business as ... normal./
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Oct 21 23:06:52 <thestringpuller>	are there any financial figures floating around? or is it privately held?
Oct 21 23:06:59 <thestringpuller>	(curious as to their revenue)
Oct 21 23:07:03 <mircea_popescu>	fake top bid was 5k or so
Oct 21 23:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	so you could infer < 50 btc/mo
Oct 21 23:07:38 <thestringpuller>	micro business lol
Oct 21 23:07:52 <thestringpuller>	that's less than US minimum wage
Oct 21 23:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	glbse was making for the "sharegholders" less than what the crown was paying taaki as welfare.
Oct 21 23:08:23 <noagendamarket>	people dont buy shit with bitcoins
Oct 21 23:08:55 <mircea_popescu>	yes, it makes no sense to buy rl world items with bitcoin. after all the trouble you went to buy bitcoin in the first place.
Oct 21 23:09:10 <noagendamarket>	nefario took most of the glbse funds thats why the shareholders didnt get much :P
Oct 21 23:09:38 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: Amir Taaki? The Intersango guy?
Oct 21 23:09:44 <noagendamarket>	it turns out hes really greedy :D
Oct 21 23:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	noagendamarket even if we were to take the 500 a month figure seriously, it still doesn't pay the rent.
Oct 21 23:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller yes, bitcoinconscammercy.
Oct 21 23:10:54 <noagendamarket>	it was more like 500 a week
Oct 21 23:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	you can lay off now, nobody's going to pay you money for your shares anyway.
Oct 21 23:11:40 <noagendamarket>	I wrote them off months ago :P
Oct 21 23:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	no, you were actively trying to sucker someone into buying them a few weeks back.
Oct 21 23:12:13 <noagendamarket>	no. Mine werent for sale
Oct 21 23:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	and in general, stop trying to act like you're either legitimate or respectable. neither's the case.
Oct 21 23:13:13 <noagendamarket>	Theymos asked me about it but I hadnt said yes or no when nefario shut the site down
Oct 21 23:13:31 <noagendamarket>	fuck off wanker
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Oct 21 23:13:45 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 21 23:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Oct 21 23:13:51 <thestringpuller>	sounds like tool
Oct 21 23:14:21 <thestringpuller>	As my boss says, "Behind every successful person lies a pack of haters"
Oct 21 23:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	inevitably.
Oct 21 23:15:49 <thestringpuller>	you're right though: "it makes no sense to buy rl world items with bitcoin. after all the trouble you went to buy bitcoin in the first place."
Oct 21 23:16:35 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. it's just an intellectually lazy way to think "oh, im a btc entrepreneur"
Oct 21 23:17:33 <thestringpuller>	entrepreneur's success is generally measured by the jobs they create
Oct 21 23:17:46 <thestringpuller>	so more like "I'm a btc 'investor'"
Oct 21 23:18:11 <thestringpuller>	http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~eroberts/cs181/projects/2010-11/DigitalCurrencies/2011/06/03/bitcoins-and-the-potential-to-uplift-millions/index.html - that's what brought me back to the btc world
Oct 21 23:19:54 <thestringpuller>	"BitCoins might not provide us as much financial security in the short-term, but it would definitely empower us overall."
Oct 21 23:20:27 <thestringpuller>	Don't you feel empowered by operating MPEX mircea_popescu?
Oct 21 23:21:56 <Diablo-D3>	no, he gets that from beating women
Oct 21 23:22:24 <thestringpuller>	LOL
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Oct 21 23:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00043394 = 6.8563 BTC [+]
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Oct 21 23:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12160 @ 0.00043317 = 5.2673 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 00:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 115000 @ 0.003375 = 388.125 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 00:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4540 @ 0.00043317 = 1.9666 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 00:51:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	how does one even get on welfare
Oct 22 00:52:03 <Chaaang-Noi>	seems like a lot of work
Oct 22 00:52:48 <noagendamarket>	its easy :P
Oct 22 00:53:30 <noagendamarket>	in Australia even the middle class get welfare of some sort
Oct 22 00:53:46 <noagendamarket>	feelsgoodman.jpg
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Oct 22 00:54:48 <Azelphur>	Chaaang-Noi: you can always take my approach, one of the perks of having Autism is that the welfare people never fuck with me
Oct 22 00:54:53 <Azelphur>	\o/
Oct 22 00:55:09 <Chaaang-Noi>	lol
Oct 22 00:55:28 <Chaaang-Noi>	so lets say im in the usa and i dont want or cant work
Oct 22 00:55:30 <Chaaang-Noi>	then what?
Oct 22 00:55:36 <noagendamarket>	youre fucked
Oct 22 00:55:55 <Azelphur>	go to local walmarts and ask if you can have a large cardboard box
Oct 22 00:56:03 <Chaaang-Noi>	lol so welfare is good in england and aus but not usa?
Oct 22 00:56:13 <Azelphur>	I think that's pretty much the jist of it
Oct 22 00:56:18 <Chaaang-Noi>	ahh
Oct 22 00:56:19 <noagendamarket>	there is no welfare in the usa :P
Oct 22 00:56:23 <Chaaang-Noi>	i see
Oct 22 00:56:26 <Chaaang-Noi>	okay good
Oct 22 00:56:33 <Chaaang-Noi>	maybe ill start paying taxes then...
Oct 22 00:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50060 @ 0.00043136 = 21.5939 BTC [-]
Oct 22 00:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00043394 = 1.0415 BTC [+]
Oct 22 00:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33278 @ 0.00044061 = 14.6626 BTC [+]
Oct 22 00:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47300 @ 0.00044072 = 20.8461 BTC [+]
Oct 22 00:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00044098 = 23.7688 BTC [+]
Oct 22 00:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00044131 = 0.662 BTC [+]
Oct 22 00:57:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11562 @ 0.00044289 = 5.1207 BTC [+]
Oct 22 00:57:27 <noagendamarket>	you dont get very much if you dont work in Australia either though...subsistence living
Oct 22 00:58:13 <noagendamarket>	thats why so many women get pregnant to get the single parents pension
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Oct 22 01:22:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00043247 = 6.8763 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 01:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00043247 = 2.0759 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 02:14:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00042852 = 6.5135 BTC [-]
Oct 22 02:14:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16936 @ 0.00042823 = 7.2525 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 02:26:33 <EskimoBob>	good day-night-morning-evening
Oct 22 02:26:43 <EskimoBob>	any interesting news?
Oct 22 02:27:04 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 22 02:27:08 <gribble>	Time since last block: 20 minutes and 52 seconds
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Oct 22 02:27:22 <Chaang-Noi>	same old same old...
Oct 22 02:27:34 <EskimoBob>	whats in the BTC TV? Any new soap operas or drama?
Oct 22 02:28:59 <Chaang-Noi>	minor pirate stuff, minoe bitcoincia stuff
Oct 22 02:29:01 <Chaang-Noi>	about it
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Oct 22 02:31:07 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 22 02:31:09 <gribble>	Time since last block: 24 minutes and 53 seconds
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Oct 22 02:38:12 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 22 02:38:14 <gribble>	Time since last block: 31 minutes and 59 seconds
Oct 22 02:38:20 <Chaang-Noi>	i heart ltc
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Oct 22 02:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00043124 = 7.8054 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 02:43:51 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: I was reading that "Breakthrough Offers New Route to Large-Scale Quantum Computing" . BTC or any crypto-blah is not fucked yet but it's getting closer. 7 more years maybe and some lab has it up and working... and then BTC will become a blip in e-pages of history
Oct 22 02:44:13 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Oct 22 02:44:16 <gribble>	Time since last block: 38 minutes and 1 second
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Oct 22 02:45:14 <EskimoBob>	what are you waiting Chaang-Noi?
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Oct 22 02:52:58 <Chaang-Noi>	i wanted to see if a transaction was good
Oct 22 02:53:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i used the same wallet on two computers and everything got fucked up
Oct 22 02:53:16 <Chaang-Noi>	one comptuer does not see the coin
Oct 22 02:53:23 <Chaang-Noi>	one seems it did
Oct 22 02:53:51 <Chaang-Noi>	not sure what went wrong, used the wallet for oever 1 year and have over 5000 transactions and several hundred address
Oct 22 02:53:57 <Chaang-Noi>	but then lol they dont match
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Oct 22 02:56:53 <midnightmagic>	ls -la
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Oct 22 03:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7063 @ 0.00043543 = 3.0754 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 03:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob maybe.
Oct 22 03:12:05 <rg>	nice
Oct 22 03:12:08 <rg>	when i wake up ltc diff will be down
Oct 22 03:12:09 <mircea_popescu>	tho the same computers can be used to mine.
Oct 22 03:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	meh i just had the world's worst banana
Oct 22 03:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	wtf, we get quantum computers can't even grow a decent banana ;/
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Oct 22 03:24:28 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: you know that this yellow banana we like so much is going to die out
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Oct 22 03:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48400 @ 0.00043651 = 21.1271 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 03:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 627 @ 0.00043651 = 0.2737 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 04:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16708 @ 0.00043728 = 7.3061 BTC [+]
Oct 22 04:33:36 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob so i hear.
Oct 22 04:47:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00043789 = 8.2104 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 05:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15326 @ 0.003375 = 51.7253 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 06:50:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 4 @ 0.16325225 = 0.653 BTC [-]
Oct 22 06:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.003375 = 67.5 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 07:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1471 @ 0.0004383 = 0.6447 BTC [-]
Oct 22 07:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32857 @ 0.00044004 = 14.4584 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 07:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20138 @ 0.00044289 = 8.9189 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 08:07:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00044106 = 8.0273 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 08:58:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9884 @ 0.00044306 = 4.3792 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 09:46:09 <Chaang-Noi>	this is not me at all but seems some people have btc wallets
Oct 22 09:46:11 <Chaang-Noi>	http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/432138975
Oct 22 09:46:18 <Chaang-Noi>	nsfw
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Oct 22 09:46:21 <Chaang-Noi>	its 4chan
Oct 22 09:46:24 *	Diablo-D3 sighs and clicks.
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Oct 22 09:47:10 <Chaang-Noi>	might be same fag too, hard to tell
Oct 22 09:47:44 <Diablo-D3>	not enough tits
Oct 22 09:47:47 *	Diablo-D3 closes tab
Oct 22 09:48:26 <thestringpuller>	sup guys
Oct 22 09:48:59 <gigavps>	has anyone talked with nefario about a timeline for the shutdown of glbse?
Oct 22 09:49:13 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: oh thats easy
Oct 22 09:49:18 <Diablo-D3>	8am: several beers
Oct 22 09:49:21 <Diablo-D3>	9am: glbse taken down
Oct 22 09:49:30 <Diablo-D3>	10am: spends user funds to get hookers and blow
Oct 22 09:49:43 <Diablo-D3>	2pm: why the fuck am I in a ditch, and why does my side hurt, and whats with this bag of ice
Oct 22 09:49:45 <gigavps>	Diablo-D3 i meant to get the asset holders lists
Oct 22 09:49:54 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Oct 22 09:49:57 <chmod755>	lol
Oct 22 09:49:59 <Diablo-D3>	thats also easy
Oct 22 09:49:59 <gigavps>	and coins returned
Oct 22 09:50:01 <Diablo-D3>	never.
Oct 22 09:50:14 <chmod755>	i got 100% of my 0.00000000 BTC back
Oct 22 09:50:19 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 22 09:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54841 @ 0.00044121 = 24.1964 BTC [-]
Oct 22 09:50:22 <Diablo-D3>	:<
Oct 22 09:50:26 <thestringpuller>	chmod777
Oct 22 09:50:27 <Diablo-D3>	I got 0% of my btc back
Oct 22 09:50:41 <thestringpuller>	Mpex it up
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Oct 22 09:52:16 <Chaang-Noi>	giga did you get your coins back?
Oct 22 09:52:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda wonder if the "double payment fail" was just a stalling tactict.
Oct 22 09:54:16 <Chaang-Noi>	fail internets
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Oct 22 10:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00044168 = 1.7667 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 10:43:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117 @ 0.00044121 = 0.0516 BTC [-]
Oct 22 10:43:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27527 @ 0.00043914 = 12.0882 BTC [-]
Oct 22 10:43:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00043896 = 11.4569 BTC [-]
Oct 22 10:43:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2156 @ 0.00043802 = 0.9444 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 10:47:59 <jurov>	everybody get your popcorn: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119782.0
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Oct 22 10:56:43 <Chaaang-Noi>	we leaked this days ago
Oct 22 10:56:46 <Chaaang-Noi>	he got that link from me
Oct 22 10:57:13 <thestringpuller>	who leaked it to mircea though?
Oct 22 11:00:43 <Chaaang-Noi>	i did
Oct 22 11:01:57 <pigeons>	i'm wondering who this Anon commenter is that thought i was shareholder4. seems random. hit me up if you're here
Oct 22 11:02:35 <pigeons>	hmm unless its one of the 2 people i have on ignore
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Oct 22 11:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00043802 = 5.6943 BTC [-]
Oct 22 11:16:25 <thestringpuller>	lol am i on ignore?
Oct 22 11:18:36 <pigeons>	nope
Oct 22 11:19:36 <pigeons>	is that you're comment though?
Oct 22 11:19:40 <thestringpuller>	i tend to get along with a lot of people
Oct 22 11:19:41 <thestringpuller>	no
Oct 22 11:19:49 <thestringpuller>	i dont do forums/networks
Oct 22 11:19:55 <thestringpuller>	social* networks
Oct 22 11:20:00 <thestringpuller>	just irc
Oct 22 11:21:02 <thestringpuller>	the btc business community is falling apart
Oct 22 11:21:16 <pigeons>	i wish i got misattributed the "worst. ceo. evar." quote instead at least
Oct 22 11:22:05 <thestringpuller>	worst ceo ever is steve ballmer
Oct 22 11:22:22 <thestringpuller>	singlehandedly ruined microsoft
Oct 22 11:23:01 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: do you run any businesses?
Oct 22 11:23:11 <thestringpuller>	or own any?
Oct 22 11:23:34 <pigeons>	thestringpuller: just private tech consulting services, no btc
Oct 22 11:23:46 <pigeons>	more freelancer than a "business"
Oct 22 11:24:19 <thestringpuller>	last of the freelance hackers are we? i have respect for that
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Oct 22 11:24:43 <thestringpuller>	i used to be a freelance hacker. then i needed medical insurance
Oct 22 11:24:55 <pigeons>	yeah, i hear ya
Oct 22 11:25:20 <thestringpuller>	so youve been around awhile?
Oct 22 11:25:58 <pigeons>	more than some, less than others
Oct 22 11:26:24 <thestringpuller>	modest :)
Oct 22 11:26:52 <thestringpuller>	the glbse fiasco is driving a wedge between the community
Oct 22 11:27:30 <pigeons>	really? one one side of the wedge is everyone who got screwed. who is on the other side?
Oct 22 11:30:18 <thestringpuller>	well nefario showed his true colors. there are logs of him basically saying he would oppose law enforcement. the second the popo arrive due to rising publicity, he caves to political pressure.
Oct 22 11:31:01 <pigeons>	yeah i think its more of a betrayal than had it been someone who never had presented that they would fight for the cause
Oct 22 11:32:08 <gigavps>	so wtf has he been doing the last couple of weeks?
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Oct 22 11:32:16 <copumpkin>	jacking off
Oct 22 11:32:19 <PsychoticBoy>	nothing i suppose
Oct 22 11:32:20 <thestringpuller>	he's a coward ultimately. no loyalty. loyalty is what will make or break this community. there is a saying in the orient, "loyalty to the end" if you truly believe in your cause you will die for it
Oct 22 11:32:21 <copumpkin>	oh hey BurtW
Oct 22 11:32:31 <copumpkin>	dude
Oct 22 11:32:40 <copumpkin>	what's the point in getting sent to jail for glbse?
Oct 22 11:32:46 <copumpkin>	and then glbse will get taken down anyway
Oct 22 11:32:51 <copumpkin>	it's not the kind of thing you can make a stand on
Oct 22 11:32:57 <copumpkin>	I think he's a weasel and incompetent
Oct 22 11:33:00 <thestringpuller>	move glbse to another country
Oct 22 11:33:04 <copumpkin>	but it's stupid to expect him to stand up to law enforcement
Oct 22 11:33:10 <thestringpuller>	amd vacate
Oct 22 11:33:11 <copumpkin>	yeah, it's really easy to just pick up and move countries
Oct 22 11:33:17 <thestringpuller>	the world is a big place
Oct 22 11:33:29 <copumpkin>	cause you know, you walk up to a consulate and say "yo, I wanna move my illegal bitcoin exchange to your country, gimme a work visa"
Oct 22 11:33:34 <copumpkin>	and they'll be like "yeah totally!"
Oct 22 11:33:48 <thestringpuller>	i meant more send the data overseas
Oct 22 11:33:56 <thestringpuller>	let someone else run it
Oct 22 11:34:05 <thestringpuller>	then you disappear or due the time
Oct 22 11:34:06 *	gigavps thinks the data is already overseas
Oct 22 11:34:15 <gigavps>	or under the sea
Oct 22 11:34:25 <PsychoticBoy>	in a sunken ship ;)
Oct 22 11:34:37 <thestringpuller>	do the time*
Oct 22 11:34:49 <thestringpuller>	isnt that what hazard pay is for?
Oct 22 11:34:59 <BurtW>	Hey copumpkin
Oct 22 11:35:32 <gigavps>	burt dub is in the house
Oct 22 11:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00044168 = 6.3602 BTC [+]
Oct 22 11:39:46 <thestringpuller>	gigavps: in the event you don't get asset holder information what will you do?
Oct 22 11:40:06 <gigavps>	what can i do?
Oct 22 11:40:31 <gigavps>	if i start a claims process, how will i know who is not lying?
Oct 22 11:40:50 <gigavps>	if the claims go over 40k units issued, who doesn't get paid?
Oct 22 11:41:16 <gigavps>	does the contract change?
Oct 22 11:41:22 <thestringpuller>	there is a case nefario may decide to not release the db info
Oct 22 11:41:45 <thestringpuller>	i wouldnt put it past him at this poibt
Oct 22 11:41:48 <thestringpuller>	point*
Oct 22 11:41:52 <gigavps>	Gigamining's contract is dependent on their being a highest traded price over the last 15 days
Oct 22 11:42:31 <gigavps>	so it will most likely mean that the contract will no longer be perpetual
Oct 22 11:42:43 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah, i have one too for 7 days
Oct 22 11:43:08 <Chaaang-Noi>	this whole things is a mess
Oct 22 11:44:07 <gigavps>	so if someone can come up with clear answers to these questions, i'm happy to continue Gigamining
Oct 22 11:44:26 <Chaaang-Noi>	giga, make sure you talk to your lawyer before you act as a broker
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Oct 22 11:44:39 <gigavps>	that is another reason the contract would need to change
Oct 22 11:44:54 <gigavps>	because I cannot act as a broker or exchange
Oct 22 11:44:58 <Chaaang-Noi>	you are an american, so im not kidding, talk to your lawyer
Oct 22 11:45:06 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah you cant
Oct 22 11:45:23 <Chaaang-Noi>	you must have talked to a lawyer :)
Oct 22 11:45:26 <Chaaang-Noi>	or you is smart
Oct 22 11:45:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	either way it sucks
Oct 22 11:45:37 <gigavps>	so most of the profitability of Teramining, which was being able to be the first to have it and flip it, is gone
Oct 22 11:46:15 <thestringpuller>	heh mircea hates mining bonds so i doubt mpex is an option
Oct 22 11:46:17 <Chaaang-Noi>	it is a mess
Oct 22 11:46:38 <gigavps>	so now anyone holding Gigamining and wants to upgrade to Teramining has to ask, just how many coins am i going to put in and is it even worth it
Oct 22 11:46:57 <gigavps>	but they won't know until a new contract is made and agreed upon
Oct 22 11:47:22 <gigavps>	and there is no point in making a new contract if i can't reliably know who owns what
Oct 22 11:47:41 <thestringpuller>	glbse has you by the balls still :(
Oct 22 11:48:05 <gigavps>	glbse doesn't have me by the balls, they have all of their/my customers by the balss
Oct 22 11:48:08 <gigavps>	balls
Oct 22 11:48:31 <Chaaang-Noi>	glbse had made it so giga is forced to keep all profit, glbse has fucked everyone who trusted glbse
Oct 22 11:48:55 <gigavps>	that is the most unfortunate part of this whole thing
Oct 22 11:48:59 <thestringpuller>	trust is a powerful thing
Oct 22 11:49:10 <gigavps>	because it makes me look like a scammer in most outcomes
Oct 22 11:49:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	anyone who holds giga stock should sue glbse and their owners like theymos
Oct 22 11:49:20 <thestringpuller>	at least your customers no its not yohr fault
Oct 22 11:49:28 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah that is why im so pissed at neferio and theymos...
Oct 22 11:49:58 <gigavps>	thestringpuller i can only hope at this point
Oct 22 11:50:21 <Chaaang-Noi>	i have had death threats over my assets
Oct 22 11:50:27 <Chaaang-Noi>	i hope giga has not had the same
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Oct 22 11:50:37 <gigavps>	no death threats yet
Oct 22 11:50:42 <Chaaang-Noi>	good
Oct 22 11:51:27 <pigeons>	wait, people don't like goat?
Oct 22 11:51:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 22 11:51:54 <Chaaang-Noi>	i am a giant cock
Oct 22 11:52:01 <thestringpuller>	the thing i dont get is why the platform didn't have an email list of the current asset holders for each particular issuer
Oct 22 11:52:24 <gigavps>	they do
Oct 22 11:52:38 <thestringpuller>	oh you just cant access it
Oct 22 11:52:42 <thestringpuller>	fuck them then
Oct 22 11:52:57 <thestringpuller>	someone should just hack the db
Oct 22 11:53:02 <Chaaang-Noi>	pigeons really some people hate me, some people love me,
Oct 22 11:54:24 <gigavps>	nobody hates Goat
Oct 22 11:55:02 <Chaaang-Noi>	lol yes they do
Oct 22 11:55:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	matthew hates me with a passion
Oct 22 11:55:29 <Chaaang-Noi>	some do :)
Oct 22 11:55:35 <gigavps>	and now matthew is banished from BTC
Oct 22 11:55:42 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 22 11:55:44 <gigavps>	see what happens when you hate goat
Oct 22 11:55:49 <Chaaang-Noi>	:)
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Oct 22 11:57:06 <Chaaang-Noi>	im off to bed all
Oct 22 11:57:07 <Chaaang-Noi>	night
Oct 22 11:57:14 <gigavps>	see ya
Oct 22 11:57:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	peace
Oct 22 11:57:28 <gigavps>	thestringpuller you have any good answers to my questions?
Oct 22 11:57:34 <gigavps>	i'm all ears
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Oct 22 12:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37500 @ 0.00044168 = 16.563 BTC [+]
Oct 22 12:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00044214 = 4.0677 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 12:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4544 @ 0.00043802 = 1.9904 BTC [-]
Oct 22 12:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 256 @ 0.00043789 = 0.1121 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 13:01:22 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons> i wish i got misattributed the "worst. ceo. evar." quote instead at least << lol
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Oct 22 13:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	i see nobody has any faith in nefario's future business plans ?!
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Oct 22 13:02:59 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu i glad to see you are in a joking mood today
Oct 22 13:03:05 <gigavps>	i'm*
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Oct 22 13:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	and yes, gigavps is pretty royally screwed.
Oct 22 13:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	o, i was just reading the logs.
Oct 22 13:15:18 <gigavps>	thanks for clarifying that
Oct 22 13:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, what are you going to do with teraminign nao.
Oct 22 13:16:23 <thestringpuller>	you still around mircea_popescu ?
Oct 22 13:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	and re thestringpuller : i don't hate miner bonds. i just don't think they're a fit investment for the unsophisticated.
Oct 22 13:16:42 <mircea_popescu>	they're complicated to evaluate and easy to misconstrue.
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Oct 22 13:19:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1094 @ 0.00043789 = 0.4791 BTC [-]
Oct 22 13:19:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14765 @ 0.00043728 = 6.4564 BTC [-]
Oct 22 13:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16030 @ 0.00043709 = 7.0066 BTC [-]
Oct 22 13:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6711 @ 0.00043707 = 2.9332 BTC [-]
Oct 22 13:19:49 <thestringpuller>	dis here
Oct 22 13:20:21 <thestringpuller>	have heard from smickles recently mircea_popescu ?
Oct 22 13:20:25 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Oct 22 13:20:25 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 16 hours, 23 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <smickles> but it would be nice in a way, rent, phone, internet, car, insurance for this month, that'll be 200 btc by this date please :)
Oct 22 13:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	mmm something like that, a day or two.
Oct 22 13:21:01 <smickles>	yo
Oct 22 13:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	we never talked daily tho. if you have business
Oct 22 13:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol, was gonna say email him, but i guess saying the name works too
Oct 22 13:21:21 <smickles>	:)
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Oct 22 13:21:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.003375 = 0.1519 BTC [-]
Oct 22 13:23:48 <mircea_popescu>	next somebody's gonna buy pi shares
Oct 22 13:24:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0034 = 0.0102 BTC [+]
Oct 22 13:24:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0034 BTC [+]
Oct 22 13:24:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4 @ 0.0034 = 0.0136 BTC [+]
Oct 22 13:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaha
Oct 22 13:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	next somebody's gonna buy 3mn shares
Oct 22 13:24:54 <Doffx>	S.Dice make a recovery?
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Oct 22 13:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	heh, that don' work so good eh ?
Oct 22 13:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx sorta bobbing up an' down
Oct 22 13:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 14735 @ 0.0034 = 50.099 BTC [+]
Oct 22 13:26:09 <Doffx>	If I could sell mine id make 2 btc at .0034
Oct 22 13:26:22 <Doffx>	Too bad they were on Glbse
Oct 22 13:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	why can't you sell the  oh
Oct 22 13:26:44 <Doffx>	If only you had given me a free account.
Oct 22 13:26:58 <Doffx>	Its clearly your fault.
Oct 22 13:27:00 <Doffx>	:)
Oct 22 13:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol. clearly.
Oct 22 13:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	how much did you lose by getting a free account ?
Oct 22 13:27:23 <Doffx>	Id be like -10
Oct 22 13:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	make 2 btc means you had like 300 btc's worth neh ?
Oct 22 13:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	no, 30 sorry.
Oct 22 13:27:49 <Doffx>	If I had bought an account id still be about 10 btc down.
Oct 22 13:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	so, if you spent 20 to get acct and remainder 10 to get s.dice you'd now have 1 acct worth 30 and 10 btc worth of s.dice
Oct 22 13:28:06 <Doffx>	Unless I had put all my btc in Mpex then id be up 90 or so
Oct 22 13:28:37 <Doffx>	So basically had I paid 20 btc id still have 70 or so
Oct 22 13:28:54 <Doffx>	That make sense?
Oct 22 13:28:59 <mircea_popescu>	sorta.
Oct 22 13:29:01 <EskimoBob>	If and  Maybe are not investors :)
Oct 22 13:29:05 <Doffx>	Right
Oct 22 13:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	if and maybe are the best investors there are
Oct 22 13:29:24 <Doffx>	There was no way for me to reliably see Glbse would go under like it did.
Oct 22 13:29:28 <mircea_popescu>	read like yahoo boards or something
Oct 22 13:29:33 <EskimoBob>	20
Oct 22 13:29:39 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx now that'd be a problem.
Oct 22 13:29:48 <EskimoBob>	20:20 hindsight?
Oct 22 13:29:50 <EskimoBob>	lol
Oct 22 13:29:55 <Doffx>	I knew it would go under.
Oct 22 13:30:15 <Doffx>	Just though it would be easy to transfer Paper shares to a log to retrieve them, but noooo...
Oct 22 13:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	a, that.
Oct 22 13:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, i don't think anyone could have imagined the explosion of fail that was awaiting in store for us there.
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Oct 22 13:30:59 <Doffx>	mircea_popescu, I should have paid the 20 and invested, I cant bo back in time now though so oh well.
Oct 22 13:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	course, smickles liquidated like a day before.
Oct 22 13:31:07 <smickles>	;)
Oct 22 13:31:14 <mircea_popescu>	or was it two days ?
Oct 22 13:31:27 <Doffx>	Whats the update anyhow smickles?
Oct 22 13:31:30 <smickles>	it was too damn close either way mircea_popescu
Oct 22 13:31:36 <Doffx>	What will my 900 SS shares get me.
Oct 22 13:31:58 <smickles>	Doffx: with SS? no news, sadly
Oct 22 13:32:24 <smickles>	I can't verify that you are a share holder, so it's cruise-controll for now
Oct 22 13:32:39 <smickles>	did you see the latest financial report?
Oct 22 13:32:42 <Doffx>	It seems if I could get a number for my Sdice shares I could potentially get my btc back.
Oct 22 13:33:14 <Doffx>	No, I haven’t looked yet.
Oct 22 13:33:22 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1277243#msg1277243
Oct 22 13:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	"look here's all the money we made that you can't touch cause i can't verify your ownership"
Oct 22 13:34:23 <smickles>	essentially, but, more apologetically :P
Oct 22 13:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Oct 22 13:34:56 <mircea_popescu>	so what's next on the drama programme ?
Oct 22 13:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	a suicide ? a wedding ?
Oct 22 13:35:12 <smickles>	does that mean we're tounging now? (two :p)
Oct 22 13:35:20 <mircea_popescu>	a double wedding suicide with cannibalism & incest ?
Oct 22 13:35:20 <Doffx>	Wow nice I made btc on that.
Oct 22 13:35:28 <Doffx>	See not all my choices were dumb mircea_popescu
Oct 22 13:35:35 <Doffx>	I was in two reliable assets
Oct 22 13:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx haha i never said they'd be
Oct 22 13:35:47 <Doffx>	SS, and Sdice.
Oct 22 13:35:59 <Doffx>	I know, I'm more making light of myself.
Oct 22 13:36:01 <mircea_popescu>	SS, and DerGestapo
Oct 22 13:36:49 <Doffx>	Id like to get both shares sold and liquidate all my BTC I need the extra cash for rl crap.
Oct 22 13:37:32 <mircea_popescu>	i still haven't sold pretty much any btc.
Oct 22 13:38:01 <smickles>	Doffx: 900 SS? what would you sell them to me at?
Oct 22 13:38:23 <Doffx>	Id like to get back .015 if possible.
Oct 22 13:38:34 <Doffx>	Thats what I bought in at thereabouts
Oct 22 13:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	can you buy them back ?!
Oct 22 13:39:23 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: if i get a contract from him saying that he sells them to me, i see no problem in it
Oct 22 13:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	how do you know he has any ?
Oct 22 13:39:53 <mircea_popescu>	i don't mean Doffx , but more in general.
Oct 22 13:40:12 <smickles>	oh, well, I'd have to trust the other party
Oct 22 13:40:12 <Doffx>	I have 900 I actually know that for sure because its been the same for months
Oct 22 13:40:28 <Doffx>	Sdice Im unsure of
Oct 22 13:40:36 <smickles>	they either have to have the shares, or get the shares when they become available
Oct 22 13:40:38 <Doffx>	Its like 4559 or some number
Oct 22 13:42:21 <EskimoBob>	I guess nefario has not contacted any issuers... damn, how is this BS going to take
Oct 22 13:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	considering that stuff with the dbl payments...
Oct 22 13:43:33 <smickles>	Doffx: i think i'd buy at 0.0109
Oct 22 13:44:17 <Doffx>	I may take that offer.
Oct 22 13:44:41 <smickles>	Doffx: let me draft up a contract for you to review then :)
Oct 22 13:45:09 <Doffx>	Sounds good.
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Oct 22 13:47:23 <smickles>	;;ident Doffx
Oct 22 13:47:23 <gribble>	Nick 'Doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@173-160-245-174-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net', is not identified.
Oct 22 13:47:31 <smickles>	;;gpg info Doffx
Oct 22 13:47:32 <gribble>	User 'Doffx', with keyid DE23494FA64F5DA1, fingerprint 9A9A9D9CA29C8F1FB40AC46DDE23494FA64F5DA1, and bitcoin address 1Q9FavHENPK7sATGm8ebthxG9EhQmaamw2, registered on Sat Apr 21 13:05:42 2012. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=Doffx . Currently not authenticated.
Oct 22 13:49:02 <Doffx>	Crud, I didnt leave my PC on.
Oct 22 13:49:33 <Doffx>	I'm at work smickles it may have to wait until I get home to verify.
Oct 22 13:50:01 <smickles>	Doffx: no problem, i was just getting your fingerprint there
Oct 22 13:50:01 <Doffx>	Obviously you can send me the message and ill open later with my key.
Oct 22 13:51:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3389 @ 0.00043707 = 1.4812 BTC [-]
Oct 22 13:51:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00043679 = 8.8232 BTC [-]
Oct 22 13:51:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31195 @ 0.00043663 = 13.6207 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 14:04:08 <thestringpuller>	smickles you live!
Oct 22 14:04:25 <smickles>	it is true and good
Oct 22 14:06:34 <thestringpuller>	the MVP is ready smickles :)
Oct 22 14:06:52 <thestringpuller>	my operations guy registered the domain and all
Oct 22 14:07:18 <thestringpuller>	built the db and mini trading automoton
Oct 22 14:08:09 <smickles>	wow nice
Oct 22 14:09:07 <smickles>	thestringpuller: is the site live now?
Oct 22 14:10:13 <jurov>	smickles, do you plan to move SS to mpex when glbse stuff is sorted out?
Oct 22 14:10:26 <smickles>	jurov: probably not
Oct 22 14:11:24 <smickles>	SS is winding down and I'm launching an accounting company.
Oct 22 14:11:42 <smickles>	I've already sent in the incorporation papers
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Oct 22 14:12:22 <jurov>	if you end up doing it, i can offer your shareholders special coinbr accounts
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Oct 22 14:12:47 <thestringpuller>	smickles do you give discounts to btc companies?
Oct 22 14:13:06 <thestringpuller>	if so could we retain you for q1 2013 :)
Oct 22 14:13:10 <BTC-Mining>	discounts for what?
Oct 22 14:13:18 <thestringpuller>	accounting lol
Oct 22 14:13:20 <smickles>	jurov:  that's a good offer, I hope you're extending that to all the glbse issuers
Oct 22 14:13:38 <jurov>	i already offered that to all passthrough operators
Oct 22 14:14:18 <jurov>	about the others.. doubt they'll get accepted on mpex
Oct 22 14:14:24 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I'm sure we can come to a mutually benificial arrangement without the use of marketing ploys :)
Oct 22 14:14:35 <smickles>	"it's ON SALE!"
Oct 22 14:14:43 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 22 14:15:16 <thestringpuller>	smickles to answer your question it should be live within 48 hours to a few people
Oct 22 14:15:30 <thestringpuller>	i want it to be invite only
Oct 22 14:16:02 <Doffx>	What offers jurov?
Oct 22 14:16:12 <Doffx>	I must have missed a post somewhere about something
Oct 22 14:16:45 <jurov>	for example conibr is able to facilitate 1:1 exchange of GSDPT to S.DICE
Oct 22 14:16:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10975 @ 0.00043663 = 4.792 BTC [-]
Oct 22 14:16:47 <smickles>	Doffx: should glbse assets move to MPEx, jurov will set up asset holders with coinbr accounts
Oct 22 14:16:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.0004365 = 15.0593 BTC [-]
Oct 22 14:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1713 @ 0.00043641 = 0.7476 BTC [-]
Oct 22 14:17:00 <jurov>	i made private offers
Oct 22 14:17:17 <jurov>	but everyone is waiting in glbbq
Oct 22 14:17:22 <jurov>	*on
Oct 22 14:17:39 <Doffx>	Ahh, that would be cool.
Oct 22 14:17:57 <Doffx>	I doubt mepex would allow a lot of them though
Oct 22 14:18:05 <Doffx>	Mpex too
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Oct 22 14:30:35 <BTC-Mining>	oh, Nefario made an interview with Bitcoin Magazine?
Oct 22 14:37:11 <gigavps>	BTC-Mining where have you been :p
Oct 22 14:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00043641 = 16.7145 BTC [-]
Oct 22 14:43:23 <BTC-Mining>	Around. I just never had the article mentioned
Oct 22 14:43:39 <BTC-Mining>	I mostly got info from the leaked shareholders meeting
Oct 22 14:44:31 <BTC-Mining>	I hope asset info is released pretty soon
Oct 22 14:44:56 <BTC-Mining>	I'm up to 918 Gigamining shares by the way.
Oct 22 14:45:19 <gigavps>	BTC-Mining that's great, only wish i could confirm that somehow
Oct 22 14:45:45 <BTC-Mining>	Aye, I'm sure that will be released soon enough
Oct 22 14:45:55 <gigavps>	have you spoken with nefario?
Oct 22 14:46:37 <BTC-Mining>	Not yet. I don't really need any more info than what has already been reported by those who did.
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Oct 22 14:51:33 <smickles>	am i up to date on that issue? some btc has been returned, but no share info?
Oct 22 14:51:49 <BTC-Mining>	Indeed
Oct 22 14:51:55 <thestringpuller>	yup
Oct 22 14:52:02 <BTC-Mining>	Not completly processed
Oct 22 14:52:14 <BTC-Mining>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118354
Oct 22 14:52:21 <gigavps>	BTC-Mining i'm not sure if you realize this or not, but the perpetual contract can no longer exist
Oct 22 14:52:30 <gigavps>	the contract will have to change
Oct 22 14:52:35 <BTC-Mining>	Payment claims. Still many claiming to not have been paid however.
Oct 22 14:52:46 <gigavps>	if i get the info from glbse
Oct 22 14:52:49 <BTC-Mining>	gigavps: how so?
Oct 22 14:53:08 <gigavps>	the buyback clause cannot be executed without glbse
Oct 22 14:53:28 <gigavps>	no way to know the highest trading price over the last 15 days
Oct 22 14:53:52 <gigavps>	i guess we could use the mpex etf to come to a price
Oct 22 14:54:02 <gigavps>	but i don't think anyone would like that price much
Oct 22 14:54:18 <gigavps>	because it's .05676 per bond right now
Oct 22 14:54:42 <BTC-Mining>	Simple, you'll probably have to process trades manually.
Oct 22 14:54:49 <gigavps>	LOL
Oct 22 14:54:56 <gigavps>	not so simple
Oct 22 14:55:03 <BTC-Mining>	Assuming you're willing to do that...
Oct 22 14:55:05 <gigavps>	unless you want me to go to prison
Oct 22 14:55:31 <smickles>	gigavps: wouldn't you be fine running it privately?
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Oct 22 14:56:10 <gigavps>	smickles my lawyer is researching what, if anything, can be done
Oct 22 14:56:29 <gigavps>	seems everyone things mining bonds are actually perpetual
Oct 22 14:56:30 <smickles>	gigavps: good to hear
Oct 22 14:56:51 <gigavps>	except for that pesky buy back clause that everyone chooses to ignore
Oct 22 14:57:22 <gigavps>	maybe we should just use the mpex highest traded price
Oct 22 14:58:24 <smickles>	that would be reasonable, do any of thes listing contracts mention GLBSE specifically?
Oct 22 14:58:53 <gigavps>	the contract was on glbse
Oct 22 14:59:09 <BTC-Mining>	mpex price is considerably lower however because it is not assumed not to upgrade to Teramining.
Oct 22 14:59:11 <gigavps>	and google cache doesn't have a cache of glbse.com/asset/view/GIGAMINING
Oct 22 14:59:31 <gigavps>	BTC-Mining fine, i'll double it
Oct 22 14:59:39 <gigavps>	just saying
Oct 22 14:59:52 <Doffx>	Wouldnt the twitter feed have the last sale of Gigamining>
Oct 22 14:59:58 <Doffx>	Or is that poof to
Oct 22 15:00:10 <gigavps>	my main point is that without a buyback clause that can be executed, the contract would need to be changed
Oct 22 15:00:48 <gigavps>	Doffx the last trade on glbse does not reflect the actions of glbse
Oct 22 15:00:52 <smickles>	how do you chang a contract without total concent tho?
Oct 22 15:01:15 <smickles>	i don't expect you had an amendment clause?
Oct 22 15:01:20 <gigavps>	smickles everyone who wants to get paid will probably need to agree to a new contract
Oct 22 15:01:34 <gigavps>	we are in uncharted waters here
Oct 22 15:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	smickles actually : some btc returned twice, some btc not returned.
Oct 22 15:02:17 <smickles>	if not uncharted, uncommon
Oct 22 15:02:32 <Doffx>	Yeah but you should be able to get the ave trade numbers from it since it was a running transaction log
Oct 22 15:02:34 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh yeah, i forgot about that bit
Oct 22 15:02:41 <Doffx>	If they still exsist
Oct 22 15:02:46 <gigavps>	https://twitter.com/glbse
Oct 22 15:02:49 <gigavps>	it exists
Oct 22 15:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	<BTC-Mining> Simple, you'll probably have to process trades manually. << this is insanity, seriously. how is he to do trades manually ?
Oct 22 15:03:04 <gigavps>	but does it reflect the value of gigamining today?
Oct 22 15:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	actually, while at it, why not ask him to produce water manually. from like, some hydrogen gas.
Oct 22 15:03:25 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu i only produce methane gas
Oct 22 15:03:29 <Doffx>	It reflects the value at the time of Glbse closing
Oct 22 15:03:40 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: manually, like with individual share transfer contracts
Oct 22 15:03:40 <Doffx>	Its as close as you will ever get.
Oct 22 15:03:43 <gigavps>	you didn't answer my question
Oct 22 15:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps yes, methane gas, BUT NOT MANUALLY
Oct 22 15:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	<gigavps> https://twitter.com/glbse << speaking of this, someone should make a copy. iirc you can delete tweets.
Oct 22 15:04:42 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: and old tweets are disappeared by twitter
Oct 22 15:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	that too.
Oct 22 15:04:55 <smickles>	(unless you pay them for access)
Oct 22 15:05:05 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu someone on the forums posted the entire trading logs since glbse 2.0
Oct 22 15:05:06 <Doffx>	Has anyone logged this channel since it started?
Oct 22 15:05:08 <BTC-Mining>	<mircea_popescu> He'll have a list of which address holds how many shares. Someone with an address could sign his shares off to another address.
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Oct 22 15:05:25 <gigavps>	BTC-Mining I WOULD BE BREAKING THE LAW
Oct 22 15:05:30 <Doffx>	cat | grep GLBSE
Oct 22 15:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps a ok that's useful.
Oct 22 15:05:49 <smickles>	yeah, public trading is a no-go (in 'merica)
Oct 22 15:05:55 <gigavps>	Doffx i will ask my question again. Does the last traded price on glbse reflect the damage they have caused?
Oct 22 15:05:56 <BTC-Mining>	Well in your case, yes, being in the US is unfortunate
Oct 22 15:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining, smickles : i'm just pointing out it's inhuman to expect someone to do this manually. esp on a high volume asset.
Oct 22 15:06:16 <gigavps>	they being GLBSE and nefario
Oct 22 15:06:27 <Doffx>	I said no, but that you could use the entire log to come up with the AVE price at the time of close.
Oct 22 15:06:34 <Doffx>	How else will you value it?
Oct 22 15:06:39 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: heh, yeah, I certainly agree, but there are additional issues too
Oct 22 15:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	even with no consideration of any law, it's not something you can ask of people any more than you can ask them to build you a house out of dry sand
Oct 22 15:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5987 @ 0.00043641 = 2.6128 BTC [-]
Oct 22 15:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39700 @ 0.00043612 = 17.314 BTC [-]
Oct 22 15:07:05 <Doffx>	Your going to have to do something like that eventually regardless if you get the glbse info back
Oct 22 15:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 513 @ 0.00043563 = 0.2235 BTC [-]
Oct 22 15:07:19 <gigavps>	Doffx i cannot
Oct 22 15:07:39 <smickles>	Doffx: the data is currently unknowable :/
Oct 22 15:07:49 <gigavps>	i can probably make something to pay everyone coupon payments once i have the data from glbse
Oct 22 15:08:12 <Doffx>	I have no doubt you will come up with something fair.
Oct 22 15:08:18 <gigavps>	the only reason BTC-Mining owns so many gigamining shares was to flip them when they could be traded
Oct 22 15:08:21 <Doffx>	Some back = better than Nothing
Oct 22 15:08:40 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx i have logs of tiems i'm on.
Oct 22 15:08:58 <Doffx>	I log everything you say too.
Oct 22 15:09:08 <thestringpuller>	lol logs
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Oct 22 15:09:32 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx one day it will be worth it's weight in bitcoin
Oct 22 15:09:43 <Doffx>	I'm currently writing a mircea_popescu tell all book from the Logs.
Oct 22 15:09:53 <Doffx>	Its one page so far.
Oct 22 15:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	nude pix ?
Oct 22 15:10:02 <gigavps>	only of -pr
Oct 22 15:10:14 <Doffx>	Of the girl with a title that says  " I told you so"
Oct 22 15:10:22 <Doffx>	:)
Oct 22 15:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 22 15:10:58 <Doffx>	I bet that nude picks of mircea_popescu would sell better than the girl if priced right.
Oct 22 15:11:11 <Doffx>	Curiosity I bet, how scary is this dude
Oct 22 15:11:27 <BTC-Mining>	Hmm, but would it be illegal to merely transfer shares upon request? I'd assume AML would be required for that.
Oct 22 15:11:29 <gigavps>	sounds like Doffx is going to be bidding
Oct 22 15:11:41 <Doffx>	.00000001
Oct 22 15:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	i'm pretty scary.
Oct 22 15:12:38 <gigavps>	BTC-Mining glbse has royally effed 1000s of people
Oct 22 15:13:27 <mircea_popescu>	well... 100s.
Oct 22 15:13:57 *	gigavps watches mircea_popescu's ego inflate
Oct 22 15:14:04 <Doffx>	haha
Oct 22 15:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	my ego is kinda stonework & masonry. pretty big, but also pretty uninflatable.
Oct 22 15:14:39 <gigavps>	nice
Oct 22 15:14:45 <Doffx>	Only channel I logged was btcst that was for Pirate tidbits.
Oct 22 15:14:49 <Doffx>	I dont bother anymore.
Oct 22 15:15:02 <thestringpuller>	logging is hard with irssi
Oct 22 15:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	there's little difference between assbot and twitter anyway, seeing how it just echos
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Oct 22 15:17:33 <thestringpuller>	dis here
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Oct 22 15:23:15 <smickles>	thestringpuller: irssi logs hard?
Oct 22 15:23:50 <thestringpuller>	to setup with my tgumbs
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Oct 22 15:27:56 <jurov>	randall munroe is following bitcoinland, too http://xkcd.com/1124/
Oct 22 15:28:02 <smickles>	I have trouble with my tgumbs too. I just don't understand them
Oct 22 15:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	he's in thw wot even
Oct 22 15:28:40 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i've seen him on #bitcoin
Oct 22 15:28:58 <smickles>	;;seen #bitcoin rmonroe
Oct 22 15:28:58 <gribble>	I have not seen rmonroe.
Oct 22 15:29:04 <smickles>	not lately, apparently
Oct 22 15:29:14 <mircea_popescu>	gribble lies
Oct 22 15:29:41 <smickles>	he used to chat there a little, then he idled for months
Oct 22 15:29:47 <smickles>	i wonder if he even does that now
Oct 22 15:30:06 <smickles>	well, he's idle there
Oct 22 15:30:19 <smickles>	i wonder if he checks it anyway
Oct 22 15:30:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00043891 = 4.3891 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55000 @ 0.00044 = 24.2 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00044236 = 19.5081 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00044277 = 10.3165 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1606 @ 0.00044306 = 0.7116 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00044336 = 0.798 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35619 @ 0.0004438 = 15.8077 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55600 @ 0.00044394 = 24.6831 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10804 @ 0.00044408 = 4.7978 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36300 @ 0.00044435 = 16.1299 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46145 @ 0.00044437 = 20.5055 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00044527 = 11.3544 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00044539 = 19.1518 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	eeee
Oct 22 15:30:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00044549 = 2.1829 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.0004457 = 20.6359 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10026 @ 0.00044695 = 4.4811 BTC [+]
Oct 22 15:31:21 <thestringpuller>	whoop whooo
Oct 22 15:31:25 <smickles>	)0_o-i
Oct 22 15:43:23 <thestringpuller>	munroe is cool
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Oct 22 15:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17314 @ 0.00043563 = 7.5425 BTC [-]
Oct 22 15:56:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4537 @ 0.00043543 = 1.9755 BTC [-]
Oct 22 15:56:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31349 @ 0.00043537 = 13.6484 BTC [-]
Oct 22 16:00:11 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, the dividends are announced in rss, too?
Oct 22 16:00:37 <jurov>	or on twatter...i can't find any sample
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Oct 22 16:09:28 <smickles>	jurov: assbot announces the dividends for mpex listing
Oct 22 16:09:42 <smickles>	somehow
Oct 22 16:09:45 <kakobrekla>	somewhat.
Oct 22 16:09:47 <kakobrekla>	yeah :)
Oct 22 16:10:15 <gigavps>	somewhere :p
Oct 22 16:10:41 <jurov>	and pulls them from where?
Oct 22 16:10:46 <kakobrekla>	twitter
Oct 22 16:11:51 <jurov>	who programmed assbot?  parsing function would be kindly appreciated
Oct 22 16:12:22 <kakobrekla>	It was I, LeClerc.
Oct 22 16:13:38 <kakobrekla>	give me a sec or so im in the middle of something
Oct 22 16:15:07 <Azelphur>	jurov: I wrote a bot that does the same thing, it's on github at https://github.com/Azelphur/BitcoinAssets
Oct 22 16:15:30 <smickles>	:D
Oct 22 16:15:35 <thestringpuller>	i want the mint chart api lol
Oct 22 16:15:46 <smickles>	glwt
Oct 22 16:16:08 <jurov>	thanks!
Oct 22 16:16:12 <smickles>	support@mint.com
Oct 22 16:16:46 <smickles>	lol, that would be amazing if they were gave you the code to the charts :D
Oct 22 16:17:17 <smickles>	does this make sense?:
Oct 22 16:17:19 <smickles>	No amendment, change, or modification to this agreement will be effective or enforceable unless the text of it is appended to the end of a copy of this agreement and any previous amendments, changes, or modifications, which is signed by all parties involved, and signed by all parties involved.
Oct 22 16:18:51 <jurov>	...copy of this agreement INCLUDING any previous...
Oct 22 16:18:55 <jurov>	feels clearer
Oct 22 16:19:03 <smickles>	ah, it does
Oct 22 16:19:11 <smickles>	thx jurov :D
Oct 22 16:22:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20851 @ 0.00043537 = 9.0779 BTC [-]
Oct 22 16:22:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5349 @ 0.00043478 = 2.3256 BTC [-]
Oct 22 16:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yes
Oct 22 16:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	Azelphur speaking of that bot, how's dev coming along ?
Oct 22 16:24:50 <kakobrekla>	jurov that alzy script wont give you dividends afaik, see pm
Oct 22 16:25:02 <Azelphur>	yea, mine doesn't parse dividends
Oct 22 16:25:15 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: still need to get working on it
Oct 22 16:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	smickles that sounded painful.
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Oct 22 16:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	but as a matter of principle, i don't think it's a good idea to allow such a thing. you will conceivably end up with 2mb of signatureporn
Oct 22 16:29:57 <jurov>	mostly done it using RSS instead and that's a bit different... so i'm on my own anyway
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Oct 22 16:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure there is a rss feed of dividends ><
Oct 22 16:33:57 <mircea_popescu>	is there ?
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Oct 22 16:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bto7vH-rz-E
Oct 22 16:37:51 <smickles>	recursive gpg --verify ftw
Oct 22 16:37:52 <smickles>	!
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Oct 22 16:39:51 <kakobrekla>	o, this is new https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119745.0
Oct 22 16:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	talk to me in 5 years, when we're back rubbing sticks together cause you fucked up civilisation.
Oct 22 16:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla bitcoinica umm... 5.0 ?
Oct 22 16:41:26 <kakobrekla>	it accualy uses their codebase rofl
Oct 22 16:41:38 <mircea_popescu>	Nice, but you could have at least plugged the most obvious security holes of the Bitcoinica source code before re-using it.
Oct 22 16:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha wunderbar.
Oct 22 16:41:55 <dub>	haha
Oct 22 16:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	Thanks Davout,
Oct 22 16:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	I handed over to the developper and meanwhile added a routine to check and correct users leverage.
Oct 22 16:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	zee develloper
Oct 22 16:42:12 <dub>	Bitfinex, How does it works?
Oct 22 16:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	it works like majigz
Oct 22 16:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, this double p thing is quite fetching. i think i will double all my p's from now on given that english uses entirely too few p's in the first pplace
Oct 22 16:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	and never fucken  doubles them
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Oct 22 16:44:05 <kakobrekla>	you are pprolly onto something
Oct 22 16:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	"I'm having mixed feeling towards this project. The security measures you have implemented seem really great, and inspire great confidence in your service. Using the source of a service that had some major issues, not so much."
Oct 22 16:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	if that forum ever goes away i shall miss it
Oct 22 16:46:22 <mircea_popescu>	Hi Mushoz, I understand this concern, there was a general lack of security features, that we tried to correct to the best, and that's why we're in beta. Hey, we already had a bug with Davout, because no check of the leverage!
Oct 22 16:46:37 <smickles>	pput a sock in it
Oct 22 16:46:41 <smickles>	;D
Oct 22 16:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	this vaguely reminds me of the hapy-go-lucky attitude of that bitdaytrader dood, who was explaining how his best friend made over 21mn btc (by exploiting one of the umpteen bbilion holes in his "code")
Oct 22 16:47:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1220 @ 0.00043478 = 0.5304 BTC [-]
Oct 22 16:47:53 <jurov>	First, we invested so reserve funds adnd are ready (able) to take up to 400 btc and 4000 usd loss if shit should happen during the beta.
Oct 22 16:48:05 <jurov>	sounds almost like a bounty :)
Oct 22 16:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 22 16:48:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.70000, Best ask: 11.70001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.70000, 24 hour volume: 34341.96626791, 24 hour low: 11.47110, 24 hour high: 11.81000, 24 hour vwap: 11.69566
Oct 22 16:48:28 <mircea_popescu>	whew. for a moment there i thought we're at 10 now.
Oct 22 16:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	WAIT!
Oct 22 16:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	omg nanotube stole my ticker format!
Oct 22 16:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	THIS IS INFRINGATORY THEFT
Oct 22 16:49:08 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Oct 22 16:49:09 <gribble>	1 BTC = 11.70000 U.S. dollars = 8.96895362 Euros
Oct 22 16:50:02 <EskimoBob>	LOL! "International Karmic Bitcoin Bank of Ponyville"
Oct 22 16:50:10 <EskimoBob>	10% weekly :)
Oct 22 16:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	come to think about it... developopper sounds better  than developper.
Oct 22 16:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	"Finally to answer your specific example: a user balance won't be able to be withdrawn to negative because we would have checked it (and the balances work without bugs)."
Oct 22 16:51:33 <dub>	hmm
Oct 22 16:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	this is too good. i wish for myself this proscriptive ability where you draw the limits of what may to fail aforehand.
Oct 22 16:51:57 <mircea_popescu>	sure takes all the scary out of risk management.
Oct 22 16:51:59 <kakobrekla>	im confused why no trolls are screaming 'scam'
Oct 22 16:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	cause it doesn't seem at all legitimate ?
Oct 22 16:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	Quote from: davout on Today at 01:28:33 PM
Oct 22 16:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	What about the infamous race conditions ?
Oct 22 16:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	According to my guy he used a hook called "after_commit" where needed, but I'm currently reviewing the code. Meanwhile if you can execute it that means he didn't do enough!
Oct 22 16:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	hey!
Oct 22 16:53:19 <kakobrekla>	hm if he is reviewing, why didnt he just code it himself
Oct 22 16:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't it sound a lot more important this way ?
Oct 22 16:54:04 <EskimoBob>	we can all feel warm and fuzzy now :)
Oct 22 16:54:35 <dub>	the english is too good for alberto
Oct 22 16:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	dub he's the lover.
Oct 22 16:58:52 <dub>	the fuck is this gox bot doing
Oct 22 16:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	hm?
Oct 22 17:01:15 <dub>	something killing the spread
Oct 22 17:02:22 <dub>	fuck it
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Oct 22 17:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16980 @ 0.000431 = 7.3184 BTC [-]
Oct 22 17:13:58 <smickles>	ya know what
Oct 22 17:14:31 <smickles>	usagi should've had a force majeur clause his contracts which included glbse
Oct 22 17:14:50 <smickles>	that way, she'd've been off the hook
Oct 22 17:17:04 <smickles>	now that i think about it, all the 'assets' on glbse should've had that clause
Oct 22 17:17:08 <smickles>	srsly
Oct 22 17:25:55 <Azelphur>	force majeur?
Oct 22 17:27:31 <dub>	act of imaginary friend
Oct 22 17:28:59 <smickles>	Azelphur: it's a typical clause of a contract that essentialy says that it's not default if a disaster or something occured
Oct 22 17:29:20 <smickles>	they are usually written a little funny, especially if you're an atheist
Oct 22 17:29:32 <Azelphur>	xD
Oct 22 17:29:34 <smickles>	Neither party to this contract is in default hereunder by reason of its delay in the performance of or failure to perform, in whole or in part, any of its obligations hereunder, if such delay or failure resulted from acts of God or other occurrences beyond its reasonable control and without its fault or negligence. [Such acts or occurrences shall include, but not be limited to, earthquakes, floods, fire, power failures, communications failures, e
Oct 22 17:29:46 <smickles>	that's from itlaw.wikia.com
Oct 22 17:30:13 <dub>	power and comms failure?
Oct 22 17:30:50 <smickles>	dub: I'm suggesting that glbse assets should've included glbse shutting down in that list
Oct 22 17:31:40 <dub>	well yeah, thats more of an 'act of stupidity'
Oct 22 17:31:54 <Azelphur>	I don't think GLBSE shutting down should really be in the list, as long as GLBSE provides a way to continue trading it's not so much of an issue
Oct 22 17:31:59 <smickles>	and yeah, if the contract has you liable to do something on the internet, an Ney York Power and light goes down, you shouldn't be held in default
Oct 22 17:32:01 <Azelphur>	speaking of which, are we nearly there yet?
Oct 22 17:32:07 <dub>	any asset issuers got data from glbse yet?
Oct 22 17:32:23 <dub>	smickles: bullshit
Oct 22 17:32:27 <Azelphur>	dub: my way of phrasing it was cooler
Oct 22 17:32:36 <dub>	power an dcomms failure can be mitigated
Oct 22 17:32:41 <smickles>	no shareholder info yet
Oct 22 17:33:20 <smickles>	dub: i suppose it depends on what sort of agreement we're talking about
Oct 22 17:33:23 <dub>	its also comman to have penalties in supply contracts
Oct 22 17:33:34 <dub>	common*
Oct 22 17:35:31 <dub>	I dont see any way that it falls under force majeur
Oct 22 17:36:24 <dub>	unless something like a coronal mass ejection wipes out significant infrastructure
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Oct 22 17:37:51 <smickles>	dub: I was considering comms failure to be force majeure in cases where the mitigation of comms failure would be cost prohibitive
Oct 22 17:38:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00043549 = 1.0452 BTC [+]
Oct 22 17:38:07 <smickles>	that "superior strength" part
Oct 22 17:38:54 <smickles>	this isn't a very realistic example, but lets say it was an agreement to sent .001 btc to an addy at a future date
Oct 22 17:39:32 <dub>	no, if you are reliant on comms but too cheap to mitigate failure thats is your problem not your clients when you fail to provide
Oct 22 17:40:41 <smickles>	heh, i guess you would't sign a contract that included power and comms in the force majeure clause then :)
Oct 22 17:41:43 <dub>	its a sore topic for me :)
Oct 22 17:42:31 <smickles>	personally, i think i would tend to accept it for personal bitcoin txns, if there were documentation of a powere outtage where the other person lives, and i knew they lived there (or were there) beforehand
Oct 22 17:43:12 <jurov>	why only acts of God? what if something was act of Satan?
Oct 22 17:44:52 <smickles>	I think it should not say acts of god, but include a statement about god actually existing and fucking up the contract
Oct 22 17:44:55 <dub>	smickles: I'd prefer to see some buffer built into the bit about making payments rather than call it force majeur
Oct 22 17:46:20 <jurov>	oh yes, satan acts would fall under "occurrences beyond its reasonable control"... unless it can be construed that it was caused by insufficient repentance
Oct 22 17:46:25 <smickles>	dub: that's a good way to handle it, I was imagining a power outtage that lasted from a 'due date' past a 'grace period' and further past a 'late payment period'
Oct 22 17:47:30 <smickles>	jurov: It's totally neglegence if it turns out that the mormons are right and you go to hell b/c you were southern baptist
Oct 22 17:48:22 <jurov>	That's unthinkable heresy. I'm Roman Catholic.
Oct 22 17:49:09 <dub>	smickles: really if you dont redundant internet and something with a battery (laptop?), uplift the wallet and go somewhere with power and 'net before clause is needed
Oct 22 17:49:27 <dub>	who doesnt have at least two internet connections these days?
Oct 22 17:49:53 <thestringpuller>	Finally a keyboard
Oct 22 17:49:55 <thestringpuller>	and beer
Oct 22 17:51:38 <smickles>	dub: it does come down to the specifics of the agreement involved and what would be considered reasonable attempts at mitigation when those are taken into account
Oct 22 17:52:14 <smickles>	imo ofc ;)
Oct 22 17:53:00 <smickles>	heh, the force majeure clause in my lease specifies nationalization
Oct 22 17:53:49 <thestringpuller>	lol the if a war breaks out clause
Oct 22 17:53:50 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 22 17:57:55 <dub>	I'll go back to my grumpy old builder-of-resilient-comms-solutions cave ;)
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Oct 22 18:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12539 @ 0.00043372 = 5.4384 BTC [-]
Oct 22 18:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11320 @ 0.00043248 = 4.8957 BTC [-]
Oct 22 18:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7141 @ 0.00043006 = 3.0711 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 18:16:34 <thestringpuller>	no quarter
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Oct 22 18:29:43 <smickles>	lol, dub, it sounds like this is the clause you want http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_or_high_water_clause
Oct 22 18:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24765 @ 0.00043006 = 10.6504 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 18:51:38 <smickles>	small bit of a volume spike on gox
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Oct 22 18:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00043199 = 5.6159 BTC [+]
Oct 22 18:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.00043408 = 17.0593 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 19:04:37 <smickles>	;;later tell mircea_popescu can I use a modification of "4.2. This contract is the sole and complete agreement between the parties. It may not be modified by third parties, irrespective if said parties should style themselves "court of law", "judge" or otherwise." in contracts of my own?
Oct 22 19:04:38 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Oct 22 19:05:22 <smickles>	I only ask because MPEx claims copyright on that line, and I don't wish to violate your will here
Oct 22 19:05:29 <rg>	smickles: you dont want to buy any btc do you
Oct 22 19:05:29 <rg>	?
Oct 22 19:05:50 <smickles>	rg, how much and in what way?
Oct 22 19:06:51 <rg>	ppusd
Oct 22 19:06:52 <rg>	23 btc
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Oct 22 19:08:05 <smickles>	let me look at my account
Oct 22 19:08:12 <smickles>	;;ident rg
Oct 22 19:08:13 <gribble>	Nick 'rg', with hostmask 'rg!~james@rape.ghostnation.org', is identified as user rg, with GPG key id F3035DFA1D149C84, key fingerprint 58EB24DBC867E706F4599CD3F3035DFA1D149C84, and bitcoin address None
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Oct 22 19:11:14 <smickles>	rg: no can do, it seems. maybe they'll give me that paypal mastercard, and then we can do it
Oct 22 19:11:35 <smickles>	i don't have pp associated with an account where I have that amount of funds available
Oct 22 19:11:41 <rg>	d'oh
Oct 22 19:11:42 <rg>	ok
Oct 22 19:11:42 <rg>	np
Oct 22 19:11:46 <rg>	im sure ill find someone
Oct 22 19:11:51 *	rg crosses fingers
Oct 22 19:13:56 <smickles>	jeez, that's an aweful credit card
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Oct 22 19:22:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00043006 = 1.0752 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 19:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14594 @ 0.00043006 = 6.2763 BTC [-]
Oct 22 19:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00042988 = 3.3101 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 20:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21514 @ 0.00042921 = 9.234 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 20:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00042921 = 11.2024 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 21:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43294 @ 0.00043047 = 18.6368 BTC [+]
Oct 22 21:32:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5813 @ 0.00042921 = 2.495 BTC [-]
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Oct 22 22:08:45 <OgNasty>	;;getrating ognasty
Oct 22 22:08:45 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User OgNasty, rated since Sat Sep  1 19:15:19 2012. Cumulative rating 11, from 8 total ratings. Received ratings: 8 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 14 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=OgNasty
Oct 22 22:09:01 <OgNasty>	#bitcoin-monopoly
Oct 22 22:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00043047 = 0.3444 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 22:35:31 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Immuzikation, rated since Tue Sep 18 07:39:59 2012. Cumulative rating 16, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 12 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Immuzikation
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Oct 22 22:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12406 @ 0.00043047 = 5.3404 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 23:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00043408 = 7.4228 BTC [+]
Oct 22 23:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00043549 = 6.3146 BTC [+]
Oct 22 23:15:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00043611 = 2.7475 BTC [+]
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Oct 22 23:35:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	smickles tygrr tech offered paper certificats and said we would be dead more or less if glbse failed
Oct 22 23:36:29 <smickles>	ah
Oct 22 23:37:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	this was glbse 1 at the time
Oct 22 23:37:58 <Chaaang-Noi>	no one asked for them :/
Oct 22 23:38:09 <Chaaang-Noi>	i also offered glbse insurance, if it failed id pay out
Oct 22 23:38:13 <Chaaang-Noi>	no one took it, lol
Oct 22 23:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49486 @ 0.00043611 = 21.5813 BTC [+]
Oct 22 23:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 352 @ 0.00043773 = 0.1541 BTC [+]
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Oct 23 00:05:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00043329 = 12.9554 BTC [-]
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Oct 23 00:08:49 <mircea_popescu>	synchronizing with network, 42 blocks remaining
Oct 23 00:08:53 <mircea_popescu>	sounds spiffy :D
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Oct 23 00:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00043329 = 0.5199 BTC [-]
Oct 23 00:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0033 = 16.5 BTC [-]
Oct 23 00:46:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 6 @ 0.02836065 = 0.1702 BTC [-]
Oct 23 00:48:15 <smickles>	;;calc ([ticker --bid] - 19) / [ticker --bid]
Oct 23 00:48:16 <gribble>	-0.611835965999
Oct 23 00:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 2 @ 0.03042958 = 0.0609 BTC [-]
Oct 23 00:53:04 <smickles>	;;calc ([ticker --bid] - 16) / [ticker --bid]
Oct 23 00:53:04 <gribble>	-0.357335550315
Oct 23 00:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	o hey nice formula
Oct 23 00:54:07 <smickles>	heh, I had a little help developing it
Oct 23 00:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	how the fuck does it work o.o
Oct 23 00:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	o nano has done some serious work on ticker huh ? sweet.
Oct 23 00:54:43 <smickles>	how does it work? isn't it essentially the formula we discussed (idunno) a week ago?
Oct 23 00:54:50 <smickles>	oh
Oct 23 00:54:57 <smickles>	that's how ticker has always been
Oct 23 00:55:01 <smickles>	;;ticker --ask
Oct 23 00:55:02 <gribble>	11.78896
Oct 23 00:55:04 <smickles>	;;ticker --last
Oct 23 00:55:06 <gribble>	11.76999
Oct 23 00:55:31 <smickles>	that's it, iirc
Oct 23 00:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	uh. i dunno, iirc ticker was just
Oct 23 00:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	Aug 14 01:19:04 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Oct 23 00:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	Aug 14 01:19:04 <gribble>	Best bid: 11.8901, Best ask: 11.938, Bid-ask spread: 0.04790, Last trade: 11.8901, 24 hour volume: 52892, 24 hour low: 11.45, 24 hour high: 12
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Oct 23 00:58:02 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh
Oct 23 00:58:03 <smickles>	https://github.com/nanotube/supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor/blob/master/Market/plugin.py#L260
Oct 23 00:59:05 <smickles>	i don't think the ticker code has been modified in a while
Oct 23 00:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	nice.
Oct 23 00:59:47 <smickles>	;;ticker --high
Oct 23 00:59:48 <gribble>	11.86350
Oct 23 00:59:50 <smickles>	;;ticker --low
Oct 23 00:59:51 <gribble>	11.47110
Oct 23 00:59:53 <smickles>	;;ticker --avg
Oct 23 00:59:54 <gribble>	11.70988
Oct 23 01:00:07 <smickles>	;;ticker --currency jpy
Oct 23 01:00:08 <gribble>	BTCJPY ticker | Best bid: 947.617, Best ask: 964.614, Bid-ask spread: 16.99700, Last trade: 964.532, 24 hour volume: 333.75134016, 24 hour low: 935.400, 24 hour high: 964.533, 24 hour vwap: 955.074
Oct 23 01:00:28 <smickles>	;;ticker --currency nhz
Oct 23 01:00:29 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Oct 23 01:00:31 <smickles>	lol
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Oct 23 01:01:20 <smickles>	heh,
Oct 23 01:01:26 <smickles>	;;ticker --currency btc
Oct 23 01:01:26 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Oct 23 01:01:37 <smickles>	that could have some humor coded into it
Oct 23 01:03:31 <smickles>	;;ticker --bid --avg
Oct 23 01:03:32 <gribble>	Error: Please only choose at most one result option at a time.
Oct 23 01:05:46 <kuzetsa>	;;tell smickles [ticker --bid] and [ticker --avg]
Oct 23 01:06:44 <smickles>	kuzetsa: yeah, yeah
Oct 23 01:06:46 <kuzetsa>	hehe
Oct 23 01:06:54 <kuzetsa>	<3 hi
Oct 23 01:07:01 <smickles>	howdy :)
Oct 23 01:08:24 <kuzetsa>	I'm learning how to configure DKIM on postfix
Oct 23 01:08:35 <kuzetsa>	not going well, and it's making me sad :(
Oct 23 01:10:38 <smickles>	i don't think i could help
Oct 23 01:18:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9948 @ 0.00043773 = 4.3545 BTC [+]
Oct 23 01:18:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10052 @ 0.00043863 = 4.4091 BTC [+]
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Oct 23 01:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1048 @ 0.00043647 = 0.4574 BTC [-]
Oct 23 01:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21648 @ 0.00043863 = 9.4955 BTC [+]
Oct 23 01:45:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6404 @ 0.00043867 = 2.8092 BTC [+]
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Oct 23 01:58:21 <surf>	!help
Oct 23 01:58:21 <assbot>	List of commands:
Oct 23 01:58:22 <assbot>	!ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current MPEX ticker values)
Oct 23 01:59:04 <surf>	!help
Oct 23 01:59:05 <assbot>	List of commands:
Oct 23 01:59:06 <assbot>	!ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current MPEX ticker values)
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Oct 23 02:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00043631 = 1.3962 BTC [-]
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Oct 23 02:37:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00043631 = 16.2744 BTC [-]
Oct 23 02:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00043529 = 0.74 BTC [-]
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Oct 23 03:03:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00043624 = 14.6577 BTC [+]
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Oct 23 03:16:17 <EskimoBob>	when nefario was still happy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77301.msg859378#msg859378 I guess this never happened or we will not be in this GLBSE shit storm we are now
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Oct 23 03:23:31 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 23 03:23:39 <Chaaang-Noi>	i tried to get him to do that over 6 months ago
Oct 23 03:23:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	he did not want to do it cuz he thought he would lose market share
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Oct 23 03:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00043529 = 1.0447 BTC [-]
Oct 23 03:37:26 <smickles>	how many S.dice did gsdpt have?
Oct 23 03:37:47 <smickles>	Chaaang-Noi: you asked for that too?
Oct 23 03:38:12 <smickles>	i got the same response :|
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Oct 23 03:54:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00043624 = 3.708 BTC [+]
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Oct 23 04:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35116 @ 0.00043642 = 15.3253 BTC [+]
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Oct 23 04:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00043751 = 5.2064 BTC [+]
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Oct 23 05:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00043642 = 1.0038 BTC [-]
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Oct 23 05:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5584 @ 0.00043642 = 2.437 BTC [-]
Oct 23 05:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00043529 = 18.8045 BTC [-]
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Oct 23 06:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2516 @ 0.00043501 = 1.0945 BTC [-]
Oct 23 06:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8384 @ 0.0004363 = 3.6579 BTC [+]
Oct 23 06:04:13 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah smickles i asked for it ages ago
Oct 23 06:14:42 <EskimoBob>	any ideas what happened to brendio?
Oct 23 06:15:31 <EskimoBob>	I have/had some of the dice crap in GLBSE and like to know what are the plans for swapping it back to real thing
Oct 23 06:16:05 <EskimoBob>	and  BIB.BVPS
Oct 23 06:17:58 <EskimoBob>	or will rg take care of this?
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Oct 23 06:22:49 <EskimoBob>	question about the passw image. If I lose the passwd image, what happens then?
Oct 23 06:24:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	msg him on the forum?
Oct 23 06:25:21 <Chaaang-Noi>	however if neferio does not give him the assets i dont know how that going to work
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Oct 23 06:25:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	also i dont know how many assets issuers are goind to trust nefario
Oct 23 06:29:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40914 @ 0.0004363 = 17.8508 BTC [+]
Oct 23 06:53:46 <EskimoBob>	nefarios actions make no sense at all. ALl he had to do, it give people a week or two to get their shit off his server and be done with it
Oct 23 06:54:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	wonder why he took back the aml stuff
Oct 23 06:54:15 <EskimoBob>	but no, he had to become hysterical cunt and fuck it up
Oct 23 06:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9910 @ 0.00043487 = 4.3096 BTC [-]
Oct 23 06:54:25 <EskimoBob>	Chaaang-Noi: because it's all bull shit
Oct 23 06:54:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	i know
Oct 23 06:55:03 <EskimoBob>	how is he distracting/enforcing AML now?
Oct 23 06:58:21 <EskimoBob>	*distracting ML*
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Oct 23 06:59:33 <EskimoBob>	has anyone talked to him? Calmly? Without jelling and promising to rip his head off
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Oct 23 07:07:18 <Chaaang-Noi>	not that i know of
Oct 23 07:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00043487 = 11.5675 BTC [-]
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Oct 23 07:38:03 <Chaaang-Noi>	intersango seems down
Oct 23 07:38:07 <Chaaang-Noi>	wonder if hack...
Oct 23 07:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00043487 = 7.2623 BTC [-]
Oct 23 07:46:12 <kakobrekla>	hack scam or milk
Oct 23 07:47:18 <Chaaang-Noi>	im bored...
Oct 23 07:47:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	btc land needs more drama...
Oct 23 07:47:55 <Chaaang-Noi>	i might have to do something crazy like watch a movie or something...
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Oct 23 07:48:18 <FabianB>	how about doing real business instead of drama?
Oct 23 07:48:45 <Chaaang-Noi>	real business in btc is drama
Oct 23 07:48:50 <Chaaang-Noi>	trust me i know...
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Oct 23 07:50:40 <FabianB>	I don't think it has to be like that
Oct 23 07:50:49 <kakobrekla>	dunno if i posted this here yet but its good stuff http://www.ted.com/talks/eddie_obeng_smart_failure_for_a_fast_changing_world.html
Oct 23 07:53:24 <jurov>	similar: http://www.zdnet.com/dont-secure-the-internet-it-needs-crime-diffie-7000005958/
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Oct 23 08:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2573 @ 0.00043487 = 1.1189 BTC [-]
Oct 23 08:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47721 @ 0.00043478 = 20.7481 BTC [-]
Oct 23 08:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4106 @ 0.00043388 = 1.7815 BTC [-]
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Oct 23 08:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14251 @ 0.00043388 = 6.1832 BTC [-]
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Oct 23 08:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.14500172 = 145.0017 BTC [-]
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Oct 23 09:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol bored gribbIe ?
Oct 23 09:01:13 <gribbIe>	Hello mircea_popescu_bot
Oct 23 09:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 921 @ 0.62719675 = 577.6482 BTC [-]
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Oct 23 09:02:06 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3
Oct 23 09:02:08 <gribbIe>	Anduck:
Oct 23 09:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 726 @ 0.11239778 = 81.6008 BTC [-]
Oct 23 09:02:16 <Anduck>	are you Diablo-D3 ?
Oct 23 09:02:22 <gribbIe>	maybe
Oct 23 09:02:24 <Anduck>	no
Oct 23 09:02:32 <Anduck>	you're mr. coingenuity
Oct 23 09:02:35 <Anduck>	but
Oct 23 09:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	could you tell ?
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Oct 23 09:02:53 <coingenuity>	hehehe
Oct 23 09:02:57 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: whats happening to DMC and how about the BFL.FAIL / BFL.SUCC ?
Oct 23 09:03:15 <Anduck>	i havent heard any news considering dmc lately
Oct 23 09:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	you are aware glbse imploded right ?
Oct 23 09:03:48 <Anduck>	yes.
Oct 23 09:04:07 <Anduck>	exploded*
Oct 23 09:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	not really, cause an explosion technically consists of expelling matter outwards. no matter.
Oct 23 09:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	but that's a technical point. what'd you expect be happening to glbse assets ? noffin much.
Oct 23 09:05:18 <Anduck>	well
Oct 23 09:05:25 <Anduck>	people gathered money via glbse
Oct 23 09:05:32 <Anduck>	then glbse _IMPLODES_
Oct 23 09:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	suspicious, isn't it.
Oct 23 09:05:48 <Anduck>	and everything gone?
Oct 23 09:05:56 <Anduck>	people who gathered money just disappear with their moniee
Oct 23 09:06:02 <Anduck>	investors think wtf just happened
Oct 23 09:06:05 <Anduck>	OR wat?
Oct 23 09:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	best i can tell.
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Oct 23 09:06:25 <Anduck>	why won't nefario atleast give a list of assests and share ownerships
Oct 23 09:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	ikr?
Oct 23 09:06:35 <Anduck>	right, gigavps?
Oct 23 09:06:39 <Anduck>	btw gigavps any news about pirate?
Oct 23 09:06:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol Anduck is in reruns mode :D
Oct 23 09:07:04 <gigavps>	Anduck nefario is probably holding the asset lists hostage to get the double payments back
Oct 23 09:07:20 <Anduck>	double payments?
Oct 23 09:07:23 <Anduck>	what are those?
Oct 23 09:07:27 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps course before he was holding them hostage to get w/e, theymos' 800
Oct 23 09:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck he "accidentally" made some double payments of btc cash
Oct 23 09:07:43 <gigavps>	^^
Oct 23 09:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	held in glbbq accts
Oct 23 09:07:45 <Anduck>	ok...lol
Oct 23 09:08:01 <Anduck>	so he actually did pay out btc that was held in glbse accs?
Oct 23 09:08:03 <gigavps>	Anduck as for pirate, your guess is as good as mine
Oct 23 09:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	i guess in the mid term he'll be holding them hostage to end the middle east crisis.
Oct 23 09:08:12 <Anduck>	ok
Oct 23 09:08:22 <Anduck>	nothing happened at 12th day or since that?
Oct 23 09:08:37 <Anduck>	lol ok mircea_popescu
Oct 23 09:08:46 <Anduck>	shady
Oct 23 09:08:48 <Anduck>	very shady thing indeed.
Oct 23 09:11:13 <gigavps>	Anduck i received the coins back that were in my glbse account
Oct 23 09:11:34 <gigavps>	and it was rounded up to the tenth of a coin for some reason
Oct 23 09:13:09 <Anduck>	ok.
Oct 23 09:13:35 <gigavps>	i did call nefario three times to make sure he knew how important it was that he returned the coins
Oct 23 09:13:50 <gigavps>	so that may of had something to do with it
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Oct 23 09:19:33 <DeaDTerra>	hello :)
Oct 23 09:22:21 <Anduck>	okay
Oct 23 09:22:25 <Anduck>	DeaDTerra still need a loan
Oct 23 09:22:27 <Anduck>	?
Oct 23 09:22:59 <DeaDTerra>	nah :P
Oct 23 09:23:25 <Anduck>	you got your loan?
Oct 23 09:23:37 <DeaDTerra>	Nothing really to invest in at the moment ^^, I paid the BFL with my credit card and the arbitage is going slow as we hit the max roof at MTGox
Oct 23 09:23:55 <DeaDTerra>	Nope, decided to pay it through paypal instead
Oct 23 09:25:12 <gigavps>	DeaDTerra you think the price is headed down?
Oct 23 09:26:48 <DeaDTerra>	I sold off about 100 BTC (I act as a local swedish exchange for 7% extra ^^) so I realized I had tons of SEK in my bank account that I needed to turn back into BTC anyways so it was easier to just pay with Paypal.
Oct 23 09:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4144 @ 0.0004363 = 1.808 BTC [+]
Oct 23 09:27:21 <DeaDTerra>	I am unsure about the current price situation, I think it will go up mid term due to all the good news and the general positivity of the community but maybe short term it will take a dip
Oct 23 09:28:20 <EskimoBob>	" general positivity of the community" :)
Oct 23 09:28:31 <mircea_popescu>	we got aids ?
Oct 23 09:28:46 <PsychoticBoy>	zero positive
Oct 23 09:29:02 <DeaDTerra>	so I am off your ignore list again ^^
Oct 23 09:29:16 <DeaDTerra>	I better say something that goes against you opinion so I get ignore again...
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Oct 23 09:29:40 <DeaDTerra>	I meant there has been more positive news about Bitcoins then negative.
Oct 23 09:29:54 <DeaDTerra>	and yea we might have aids... which is probably a problem for the price in the long term
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Oct 23 09:41:45 <Chaaang-Noi>	there is always ppcoin...
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Oct 23 09:43:15 <DeaDTerra>	There are tons of altcoins, but I don't see any of them really taking off. Bitcoin has the large advantage of being the first there needs to be a huge advantage for people to switch to another alt currency.
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Oct 23 09:43:25 <DeaDTerra>	and so far there has not been such huge advantages
Oct 23 09:45:56 <Chaaang-Noi>	i was just kidding
Oct 23 09:46:21 <DeaDTerra>	Yea ^^, it won't happen
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Oct 23 09:46:36 <DeaDTerra>	It could do if some major flaw is found in Bitcoins
Oct 23 09:46:46 <DeaDTerra>	which undermines the whole currency, but I very much doubt that
Oct 23 09:48:03 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu waddup
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Oct 23 09:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00043751 = 0.7438 BTC [+]
Oct 23 09:52:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44400 @ 0.00043754 = 19.4268 BTC [+]
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Oct 23 09:57:44 <EskimoBob>	DeaDTerra: only BTC advantage at the moment it's its price and collective hope, that it will go even higher and we get out of it, before it falls flat on it's face. Sorry, but that is all the advantage it got.
Oct 23 09:57:53 <EskimoBob>	Same applies to LTC, and PPC
Oct 23 09:58:11 <EskimoBob>	close to 0 usable services in all of them :(
Oct 23 09:58:48 <thestringpuller>	no way
Oct 23 09:59:14 <thestringpuller>	1 easier internet access to the black market, i.e. internet cash
Oct 23 09:59:26 <EskimoBob>	OK; there is this cool coffee seller and someone was offering overpriced VPS?
Oct 23 09:59:31 <thestringpuller>	2 p2p based services that don't require third party
Oct 23 09:59:42 <thestringpuller>	I bought a rasberry pi
Oct 23 09:59:44 <thestringpuller>	last night
Oct 23 09:59:49 <thestringpuller>	shits are hard to find
Oct 23 09:59:54 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: those are not services - this is infrastructure
Oct 23 10:00:13 <EskimoBob>	there are roads but no cars or places to go :)
Oct 23 10:00:13 <thestringpuller>	2 p2p based sales*
Oct 23 10:00:16 <thestringpuller>	:P
Oct 23 10:00:22 <thestringpuller>	senor semantics
Oct 23 10:00:49 <thestringpuller>	yes it is a bit early for bitcoins, maybe it would be more suited for when we have space travel
Oct 23 10:01:03 <EskimoBob>	you mean never?
Oct 23 10:01:10 <thestringpuller>	pessimist are we?
Oct 23 10:01:14 <EskimoBob>	not at all
Oct 23 10:01:21 <thestringpuller>	How bout dat mug btw?
Oct 23 10:01:46 <EskimoBob>	you nor me will see space travel
Oct 23 10:02:11 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: mug is cool, I know
Oct 23 10:02:15 <thestringpuller>	I plan to get rich or die trying, in order to by a space ship
Oct 23 10:02:20 <thestringpuller>	buy*
Oct 23 10:02:55 <thestringpuller>	also today I'm talking with a coffee vendor on campus to put up a "bitcoin accepted here" sign to take metrics on bitcoin users in a technologically dense society
Oct 23 10:03:03 <thestringpuller>	(goes to an engineering school)
Oct 23 10:03:11 <EskimoBob>	But I am starting to think about real crowd financing because BTC people are used to 7% per week and everything else is out ;)
Oct 23 10:03:34 <thestringpuller>	7% a week is a scam
Oct 23 10:03:39 <EskimoBob>	and I can not pay 7% per week
Oct 23 10:03:50 <thestringpuller>	unless you provide someone health insurance
Oct 23 10:03:52 <EskimoBob>	not even per month probably unless we have a really good run
Oct 23 10:04:08 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 7*56
Oct 23 10:04:09 <gribble>	392
Oct 23 10:04:15 <thestringpuller>	that's ureasonable
Oct 23 10:04:45 <thestringpuller>	no investment vehicle makes that money
Oct 23 10:04:48 <thestringpuller>	straight up gambling
Oct 23 10:05:03 <EskimoBob>	I know but they do not ;)
Oct 23 10:05:53 <thestringpuller>	Now they should know, since everyone is defaulting left and right.
Oct 23 10:06:25 <EskimoBob>	but what exchange can I use?
Oct 23 10:07:07 <EskimoBob>	OT?
Oct 23 10:07:46 <thestringpuller>	someone would have to build an exchange off of OT
Oct 23 10:07:57 <thestringpuller>	then get passthrus...
Oct 23 10:08:08 <thestringpuller>	OT isn't "there" yet
Oct 23 10:08:27 <EskimoBob>	indeed
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Oct 23 10:09:06 <DeaDTerra>	That Bitcoin was first is it's major advantage indeed. But it also has a large community and is miles a head of any other alt currency
Oct 23 10:09:26 <EskimoBob>	OT can be used but it's too complicated and confusing at the moment
Oct 23 10:10:11 <EskimoBob>	and first you have to buy btc derivatives to buy securities etc
Oct 23 10:12:07 <thestringpuller>	exactly EskimoBob
Oct 23 10:13:51 <EskimoBob>	WOW! PPC is going up like mad monkey
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Oct 23 10:16:02 <dub>	why?
Oct 23 10:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.0004372 = 9.8807 BTC [-]
Oct 23 10:21:42 <EskimoBob>	same reason why BTC etc :)
Oct 23 10:22:24 <dub>	also, bitcoin 'has a large community' is a negative aspect
Oct 23 10:23:05 <DeaDTerra>	Dub how so?
Oct 23 10:23:29 <dub>	because its a very retarded community
Oct 23 10:23:42 <dub>	that scares most normal people away from bitcoin
Oct 23 10:24:13 <DeaDTerra>	but then again the average person in this world is probably slightly retarded in their own way and to reach critical mass you must have a bit community
Oct 23 10:24:15 <DeaDTerra>	big*
Oct 23 10:24:27 <DeaDTerra>	but I agree there are to much drama and BS
Oct 23 10:27:39 <EskimoBob>	brrr.. way too much
Oct 23 10:29:06 <Anduck>	whats ppc price?
Oct 23 10:30:00 <dub>	last trade 0.000299
Oct 23 10:30:06 <EskimoBob>	snobbery
Oct 23 10:30:45 <dub>	I have about 11btc worth!
Oct 23 10:30:54 <EskimoBob>	http://www.proofofstake.com/
Oct 23 10:31:40 <EskimoBob>	the pay per share dropped to 0.067 in http://ppcpool.bitparking.com/pool
Oct 23 10:31:42 <EskimoBob>	why?
Oct 23 10:31:53 <EskimoBob>	it was like 0.089
Oct 23 10:32:07 <dub>	difficulty increased?
Oct 23 10:32:39 <dub>	;;calc 50/13380.25645819
Oct 23 10:32:39 <gribble>	0.00373684915205
Oct 23 10:33:22 <dub>	looks like he's over paying
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Oct 23 10:35:08 <EskimoBob>	I had few BTC in it too and even mined some for fun
Oct 23 10:35:32 <B0g4r7>	explain PPC to me plz.  kthx.
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Oct 23 10:38:03 <EskimoBob>	B0g4r7: you put X BTC in and take 2xX BTC out. Something like that
Oct 23 10:40:04 <B0g4r7>	I'm reading the "paper" and it's not making much sense.
Oct 23 10:41:13 <Chaaang-Noi>	ppc is pretty crazy
Oct 23 10:41:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	but i hold some like 200k cuz i expect pump and dump
Oct 23 10:41:44 <Chaaang-Noi>	its more than doubled so far :/
Oct 23 10:42:05 *	copumpkin pumps Chaaang-Noi and dumps him
Oct 23 10:42:39 <Chaaang-Noi>	copumpkin today i was some soup, it was called "cream of pumpkin" and i thought of you:)
Oct 23 10:42:53 <Chaaang-Noi>	fuck i was not soup, i saw soup!
Oct 23 10:43:06 <copumpkin>	:O
Oct 23 10:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00043754 = 2.9315 BTC [+]
Oct 23 10:43:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23227 @ 0.00043775 = 10.1676 BTC [+]
Oct 23 10:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22973 @ 0.00043834 = 10.07 BTC [+]
Oct 23 10:43:09 <copumpkin>	that sounds rude
Oct 23 10:43:16 <Chaaang-Noi>	was got turned backwards some how saw/was/saw/was :)
Oct 23 10:43:24 <Azelphur>	Chaaang-Noi: hi soup
Oct 23 10:43:33 <Anduck>	Chaaang-Noi: any news about pirate?
Oct 23 10:43:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	im not soup anyway anyway   :)
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Oct 23 10:43:54 <Chaaang-Noi>	the people who were going to go after pirate but back out cuz of the oct 12 thing
Oct 23 10:44:00 <Chaaang-Noi>	they are now talking about doing something
Oct 23 10:44:05 <thestringpuller>	not everyone is retarded dub
Oct 23 10:44:06 <Anduck>	ok
Oct 23 10:44:07 <Chaaang-Noi>	i wished them good luck
Oct 23 10:44:14 <Anduck>	are you gonna do so smth?
Oct 23 10:44:24 <Anduck>	werent you the one who _was_ really going to do things?
Oct 23 10:44:32 <Anduck>	did anything happen at oct 12?
Oct 23 10:44:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	i did
Oct 23 10:44:39 <Chaaang-Noi>	i went alone
Oct 23 10:44:44 <Chaaang-Noi>	i did waht i could from thialnd
Oct 23 10:44:50 <Chaaang-Noi>	i had a lawyer try and do collections
Oct 23 10:44:52 <Azelphur>	Chaaang-Noi: what people are going after him?
Oct 23 10:45:14 <Chaaang-Noi>	the people posted on the forum, then got rid of their posts... cuz feared pirate
Oct 23 10:45:15 <Anduck>	what was the outcome, Chaaang-Noi?
Oct 23 10:45:21 <Chaaang-Noi>	so im not going to re out them
Oct 23 10:45:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	the lawyer is going to get 10% and well 40,000 btc...
Oct 23 10:45:35 <Chaaang-Noi>	so he is working
Oct 23 10:45:54 <Chaaang-Noi>	he has made contact with pirate
Oct 23 10:46:02 <Chaaang-Noi>	he is trying to lock down property
Oct 23 10:46:09 <Chaaang-Noi>	sadly though cuz no crime we cant do more
Oct 23 10:46:20 <Anduck>	ok
Oct 23 10:46:24 <Azelphur>	Chaaang-Noi: do you know if they are doing class action, or just for themselves?
Oct 23 10:46:25 <Chaaang-Noi>	and i cant say there is a crime unless i get a differnt type of lawyer and go to usa and all the bs
Oct 23 10:46:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	the other left me out to dry
Oct 23 10:46:43 <Chaaang-Noi>	they wanted me back in like 2 days ago
Oct 23 10:46:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	i said good luck and left it at that
Oct 23 10:47:05 <Chaaang-Noi>	the guy said he would not quit on me no matter what
Oct 23 10:47:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	the pirates clear delay wait til 12th he quit...
Oct 23 10:47:23 <Chaaang-Noi>	so lol who knows
Oct 23 10:47:26 <Chaaang-Noi>	and now SEC
Oct 23 10:47:35 <Chaaang-Noi>	if the SEC gets pirate them my lawyer can do more
Oct 23 10:47:47 <Chaaang-Noi>	but if SEC gets him clearly i cant get funds cuz SEC will
Oct 23 10:47:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	so...
Oct 23 10:47:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	im pretty fucked i think
Oct 23 10:48:18 <Azelphur>	shame that the people suing pirate arn't putting out more info
Oct 23 10:48:21 <Azelphur>	I'd be interested in that
Oct 23 10:48:27 <B0g4r7>	I'm sure you know the relevant lesson here.
Oct 23 10:48:37 <B0g4r7>	"too good to be true" and all that.
Oct 23 10:49:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	i dont think they are just yet
Oct 23 10:49:47 <Chaaang-Noi>	they want to try and reform the group to sue
Oct 23 10:50:01 <Chaaang-Noi>	but now SEC is there and i already have a guy for collections i dont know what i can gain
Oct 23 10:50:17 <Chaaang-Noi>	i was mostly doing it for the share holder
Oct 23 10:50:37 <Chaaang-Noi>	but as nefario killed that anyway i am not obligated to help them:/
Oct 23 10:51:04 <B0g4r7>	You ran a PPT?
Oct 23 10:51:15 <Azelphur>	pirate owes me more than 1k btc, so I'm interested in pursuing although I don't hold much hope.
Oct 23 10:52:10 <B0g4r7>	Ah, i see, TRGYY.P.
Oct 23 10:52:17 <B0g4r7>	Well, correct spelling, but yes.
Oct 23 10:52:36 <Chaaang-Noi>	:)
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Oct 23 10:52:54 <Chaaang-Noi>	i kinda assumed that if i got back 90% the shareholders would be okay with that...
Oct 23 10:53:04 <Chaaang-Noi>	but nefario voided that so meh
Oct 23 10:53:13 <Chaaang-Noi>	i dont think i will get anything anyway, now esp SEC
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Oct 23 10:58:18 <Azelphur>	Chaaang-Noi: any way to find out more info on the suing pirate stuff?
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Oct 23 10:59:28 <Chaaang-Noi>	you could ask them
Oct 23 10:59:39 <Azelphur>	Chaaang-Noi: how do I ask them if I don't know who they are? XD
Oct 23 11:00:06 <Chaaang-Noi>	you can find out who was going to head up the big lawsuit last time, im sure someone will know who it was
Oct 23 11:00:40 *	Azelphur hopes someone will pipe up :p
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Oct 23 19:31:08 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Oct 23 19:31:08 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com
Oct 23 19:31:08 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Oct 16 08:58:37 2012
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Oct 23 19:32:02 <thestringpuller>	don't mean to be "that guy" mircea_popescu but you got typos in the post
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Oct 23 19:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller yup, it's being edited as we speak :)
Oct 23 19:32:36 <thestringpuller>	:)
Oct 23 19:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	i tend to release things then have them typocheked etc and in general if you wait half hour you can see the definitive version
Oct 23 19:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	but if you don't care you can read early.
Oct 23 19:32:52 <dub>	lol nefario double paid?
Oct 23 19:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	so is claimed.
Oct 23 19:33:25 <copumpkin>	moo
Oct 23 19:35:34 <thestringpuller>	this is pretty much what I wrote my most recent essay on for class
Oct 23 19:35:51 <thestringpuller>	it wasn't as eloquent tho ;)
Oct 23 19:36:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.00043667 = 16.8555 BTC [+]
Oct 23 19:36:41 <dub>	its great to see deadterra is close personal friends with yet another scammer
Oct 23 19:36:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.000436 = 2.7904 BTC [-]
Oct 23 19:36:58 <dub>	calling 'james', chatting and what not
Oct 23 19:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	dub ikr.
Oct 23 19:37:16 <dub>	that guy has awesome friends
Oct 23 19:37:29 <thestringpuller>	who is that guy*
Oct 23 19:37:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 23 19:37:50 <thestringpuller>	the pronouns of those sentences confused me
Oct 23 19:38:02 <dub>	dude that has indirectly scammed a shitload of people by starting 'businesses' with scammers
Oct 23 19:38:26 <thestringpuller>	rg is giving you the run down via phone?
Oct 23 19:39:40 <dub>	oh and he's now running an arb bot
Oct 23 19:40:12 <thestringpuller>	i feel so out of the loop :(
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Oct 23 19:40:50 <dub>	same, im catching up on teh securities forum for the first time in weeks
Oct 23 19:41:18 <mircea_popescu>	dub allow me to quote
Oct 23 19:41:43 <dub>	running a scalping/arb bot is one of his primary 'partners', alberto's MO
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Oct 23 19:42:00 <thestringpuller>	is this the bdt guy?
Oct 23 19:42:15 <dub>	yeah thats alberto
Oct 23 19:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 04 19:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	DeaDTerra why do you insist in associating with well known scammers ?
Oct 23 19:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 04 19:02:32 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: guruvan "part of the bitcoinica, bitcoin consultancy, bitcoinica consultancy crew that has stolen a large amount of customer funds. Do not trust these guys - bitcoinica, intersango, consultancy, or any new project"
Oct 23 19:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 04 19:02:33 <mircea_popescu>	it's not a good business plan.
Oct 23 19:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 04 19:02:39 <DeaDTerra>	I just talked to James, the situation is critical but stable for now. All the coins are safe in the offline wallet. It was not a hack.
Oct 23 19:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 04 19:02:52 <smickles>	that, in re to genjix
Oct 23 19:43:43 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 04 19:02:58 <DeaDTerra>	I am losing more respect for you each minute, so please shut up Mircea :)
Oct 23 19:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 04 19:03:05 <mircea_popescu>	im surprised that he has the gall to even show up
Oct 23 19:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 04 19:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	much less "vouch" for his scammer friends.
Oct 23 19:43:50 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 04 19:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	DeaDTerra welcome to my ignore.
Oct 23 19:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 04 19:03:24 DeaDTerra!*@* added to ignore list.
Oct 23 19:46:23 <dub>	as much as I hate people throwing up occams razor for every fucking scenario.. how many times do you have to enable a scam before you are the scammer
Oct 23 19:47:09 <thestringpuller>	only one time
Oct 23 19:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	dub i still think he's just stupid.
Oct 23 19:49:23 <dub>	probably right. "Personally I don't think James is a crook" - because I have an excellent record of identifying crooks
Oct 23 19:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	what's "personally" even mean anymore ?
Oct 23 19:49:44 <thestringpuller>	so rg is in trouble now?
Oct 23 19:49:46 <mircea_popescu>	nefario goes about his personal union to glbse
Oct 23 19:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	and people distinguish "personally" from what exactly ? officially ?
Oct 23 19:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	why's rg in trouble ?
Oct 23 19:50:29 <thestringpuller>	19:52 < dub> probably right. "Personally I don't think James is a crook" -  because I have an excellent record of identifying crooks
Oct 23 19:50:36 <thestringpuller>	that was a confusing sentence to me
Oct 23 19:52:42 <dub>	its a quote from DeadTerra
Oct 23 19:53:17 <thestringpuller>	ah
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Oct 23 19:59:03 <rg>	umm
Oct 23 19:59:03 <dub>	I need a TL;DR consultant
Oct 23 19:59:04 <rg>	what about rg
Oct 23 19:59:23 <rg>	what the fuck
Oct 23 19:59:25 <dub>	to read the forums and provide digest of shit I have interest in
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Oct 23 20:00:07 <rg>	why the fuck are you talking baout me
Oct 23 20:00:09 <dub>	rg: nv, just some huge ghost raping faggot
Oct 23 20:00:19 <rg>	and you're saying james
Oct 23 20:00:21 <rg>	im james
Oct 23 20:00:28 <rg>	you guys are fucked
Oct 23 20:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	dub that's exactly what mpoe-pr does for me
Oct 23 20:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	youshould hire a pr person/
Oct 23 20:01:28 <dub>	someone give me the tl;dr on asic
Oct 23 20:01:45 <thestringpuller>	vaporware
Oct 23 20:01:50 <dub>	i got a couple of mails from bfl is there an eta yet?
Oct 23 20:02:22 <dub>	saw mention of some competitor with a unit due out in nov?
Oct 23 20:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	not rly any deadline
Oct 23 20:02:44 *	dub is banned from #bitcoin-mining
Oct 23 20:02:52 <mircea_popescu>	how come ?
Oct 23 20:03:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8790 @ 0.00043652 = 3.837 BTC [+]
Oct 23 20:03:07 <dub>	I was telling the truth about gmaxwell's boyfriend
Oct 23 20:05:13 <dub>	someone was asking about bfl as an investment, i pointed out that they are bad at beign honest about delivery times, Luke-Jr advised them I was a troll and should be ignored..
Oct 23 20:05:54 <dub>	I advised them that Luke-Jr thinks all non-catholics should be exterminated (which is true) so perhaps not the best giver of advice, gmax banned me
Oct 23 20:05:59 <Luke-Jr>	ignore dub, he's a troll
Oct 23 20:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 23 20:07:49 <mircea_popescu>	what exactly has gmaxwell idiot to do with minign now ?
Oct 23 20:07:53 <dub>	im not going to get into Luke-Jr opinion on sleeping arrangements with regard to his children
Oct 23 20:08:06 <dub>	that is too unsavoury to talk about tbh
Oct 23 20:17:39 <rg>	i want to know hwy people said m ynickname
Oct 23 20:17:42 <rg>	and were talking about me
Oct 23 20:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	rg me too.
Oct 23 20:17:53 <rg>	i will ban you all in -otc
Oct 23 20:17:57 <rg>	if you dont tell me wihtin 2 minutes
Oct 23 20:18:10 <rg>	[20:18] »» [rg] #masshackers @+#bitcoin-otc +#trilema #litecoin #bitcoin-assets @#bitvps #bitcoin-hosting
Oct 23 20:18:12 <rg>	that's right bitch.
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Oct 23 20:18:40 <rg>	uh oh
Oct 23 20:18:42 <rg>	;>
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Oct 23 20:20:05 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha fag
Oct 23 20:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	masshackers ?
Oct 23 20:20:52 <kakobrekla>	soh, wheres the ban
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Oct 23 20:21:17 <dub>	I dunno about that rg guy tbh, I heard he was french
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Oct 23 20:23:23 <smickles>	taxes as "willing donations to the state treasury, and something people openly took pride in.", *swoon*
Oct 23 20:23:44 <rg>	mircea_popescu: massachusetts hackers
Oct 23 20:23:50 <rg>	(my state)
Oct 23 20:23:56 <rg>	its a local security group
Oct 23 20:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	yaiknow... but... snort snort
Oct 23 20:24:00 <rg>	im giving a talk at their next meeting
Oct 23 20:24:09 <rg>	i think hte name is clever
Oct 23 20:24:23 <mircea_popescu>	o you do
Oct 23 20:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's coming.
Oct 23 20:24:35 <rg>	ok dub told me what happened
Oct 23 20:24:38 <rg>	so i gave him +v
Oct 23 20:24:40 <rg>	instead of +b
Oct 23 20:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNWukYwv2Jk
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Oct 23 20:25:42 <dub>	oh wow, I have weeks of -otc in buffer
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Oct 23 20:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00043688 = 12.9316 BTC [+]
Oct 23 20:29:48 <Azelphur>	dub: I have full logs of everything xD
Oct 23 20:30:19 <dub>	yes, and while I may have trolled Luke a little, many assumed he was trolling for a long time. He also unbanned me several times after spamming rainbow ascii crucifix depicting jesus with an erection in his channel
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Oct 23 21:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12859 @ 0.00043767 = 5.628 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 04:09:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26 @ 0.00043363 = 0.0113 BTC [+]
Oct 24 04:09:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00043532 = 5.7898 BTC [+]
Oct 24 04:13:11 <smickles>	~same boy you've always known, well i guess i haven't grown
Oct 24 04:13:43 <smickles>	~everyone who's in the know says, "that's exactly how it gows"
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Oct 24 04:21:09 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Oct 24 04:21:56 <smickles>	music Chaang-Noi
Oct 24 04:22:00 <smickles>	music
Oct 24 04:22:07 <Chaang-Noi>	ok:)
Oct 24 04:22:13 <smickles>	a drunken enjoyment :)
Oct 24 04:22:19 <Chaang-Noi>	nothing else going here
Oct 24 04:22:35 <smickles>	'suppose not, hey!
Oct 24 04:22:56 <smickles>	what do you think of a tor hidden service for OT assets
Oct 24 04:23:08 <smickles>	i've heard buzz about it
Oct 24 04:23:29 <Chaang-Noi>	if the SEC and what not keeps coming in yeah
Oct 24 04:23:31 <smickles>	seems some code needs to be written thot
Oct 24 04:23:31 <smickles>	*tho
Oct 24 04:23:32 <Chaang-Noi>	they will ahve to
Oct 24 04:23:56 <Chaang-Noi>	no one will trust someone like nefario or anyone public
Oct 24 04:24:06 <Chaang-Noi>	but tor OT has lots of risk
Oct 24 04:24:11 <Chaang-Noi>	so you need to have some outside trust
Oct 24 04:24:18 <Chaang-Noi>	its will be ahrd to pull off
Oct 24 04:24:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i doubt it will really work
Oct 24 04:24:33 <Chaang-Noi>	hell glbse had almmost nothing but scam assets
Oct 24 04:24:48 <smickles>	there were a few good ones tho
Oct 24 04:24:56 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah a few
Oct 24 04:25:08 <smickles>	if wer're going all ancap, it's to be expected
Oct 24 04:25:22 <smickles>	(on the net at least)
Oct 24 04:25:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i think we are too soon for this type of stuff on tor
Oct 24 04:25:56 <Chaang-Noi>	only way it would work is if someone like giga moved his bonds there
Oct 24 04:26:02 <Chaang-Noi>	everything else will be small time for years
Oct 24 04:26:06 <smickles>	yeah, tor ain't perfect, and OT need dev
Oct 24 04:26:18 <smickles>	*needs
Oct 24 04:26:48 <smickles>	what do you think of colored coins?
Oct 24 04:27:57 <Chaang-Noi>	its a good idea
Oct 24 04:28:13 <Chaang-Noi>	i talked about the idea a long time ago, but had no way to make it
Oct 24 04:28:41 <smickles>	what's changed since then?
Oct 24 04:29:04 <Chaang-Noi>	nothing
Oct 24 04:29:12 <Chaang-Noi>	i still think i has a chance
Oct 24 04:29:16 <smickles>	heh, other people put in the work eh?
Oct 24 04:29:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i have no skills
Oct 24 04:30:03 <rg>	anyone here got OS X ?
Oct 24 04:30:19 <smickles>	10.4 or something
Oct 24 04:30:24 <smickles>	on another compy
Oct 24 04:31:18 <rg>	i need someone to compile a binary for me
Oct 24 04:33:43 <smickles>	oh, sorry rg , no can do there, 10.4 is too out of date
Oct 24 04:33:58 <rg>	yeah
Oct 24 04:34:00 <rg>	indeed
Oct 24 04:34:02 <smickles>	xcode has mad too many "improvements"
Oct 24 04:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4329 @ 0.00043867 = 1.899 BTC [+]
Oct 24 04:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1371 @ 0.00043867 = 0.6014 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 05:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19140 @ 0.00043769 = 8.3774 BTC [-]
Oct 24 05:13:02 <Chaang-Noi>	looking for some aisic mining shares if anyone has some for sale
Oct 24 05:13:12 <Chaang-Noi>	looking for about 900
Oct 24 05:13:45 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: ping mircea
Oct 24 05:13:53 <Chaang-Noi>	he has some?
Oct 24 05:13:54 <smickles>	maybe
Oct 24 05:14:02 <Chaang-Noi>	okay, ill ask next time i see him
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Oct 24 05:25:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13234 @ 0.00043769 = 5.7924 BTC [-]
Oct 24 05:25:59 <EskimoBob>	any news from nefario?
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Oct 24 05:41:41 <EskimoBob>	do any of you have nefarios working phone number? I like to call him and find out, wtf is his problem at the moment
Oct 24 05:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10310 @ 0.00043324 = 4.4667 BTC [-]
Oct 24 05:51:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16948 @ 0.00043318 = 7.3415 BTC [-]
Oct 24 05:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5542 @ 0.00043307 = 2.4001 BTC [-]
Oct 24 05:51:57 <smickles>	EskimoBob: has he changed it since deadterra called him?
Oct 24 05:52:10 <smickles>	'cause i gave the # to deaterra
Oct 24 05:52:26 <EskimoBob>	mm.. I have no idea
Oct 24 05:52:40 <EskimoBob>	do you have the number?
Oct 24 05:52:46 <smickles>	I do
Oct 24 05:53:06 <EskimoBob>	can I have it?
Oct 24 05:53:25 <EskimoBob>	he is in UK now, yes?
Oct 24 05:53:34 <smickles>	what are you going to use it for?
Oct 24 05:53:36 <smickles>	it's a uk number
Oct 24 05:53:42 <smickles>	mobile, i think
Oct 24 05:54:11 <EskimoBob>	what am I going to do with a phone number? Call him :) What else can I do with it?
Oct 24 05:54:15 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: he wants to call him up and ask him why hes fucking us like niggers
Oct 24 05:54:19 <EskimoBob>	text him a love letter?
Oct 24 05:54:26 <smickles>	heh
Oct 24 05:54:39 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: bitches love smilies
Oct 24 05:54:48 <EskimoBob>	thanx for the tip
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Oct 24 06:09:27 <EskimoBob>	OK, I am going to call him and see whats up. This is going to be really fkn expensive :(
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Oct 24 06:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00043307 = 4.374 BTC [-]
Oct 24 06:16:09 <EskimoBob>	done.
Oct 24 06:19:57 <EskimoBob>	So, here is what's going on. 1) He can not open the site. 2) He made a double payment to some and is his working trough the list to notify those who have not returned the coin (about 70% is OK so far) whnd thi is done 3) he s going to send out rest of the balances and 4) start contacting the issuers etc so they can work it out with investors.
Oct 24 06:21:04 <Anduck>	uhh
Oct 24 06:21:29 <EskimoBob>	nothing really new but at least he sounded OK and told me is working on clearing this shit up as fast as he can.
Oct 24 06:21:35 <Anduck>	nefario makes mistake -> nefario should try to fix mistake -> if he cant get overpayments back, he will pay them from own stack ??
Oct 24 06:22:18 <EskimoBob>	I did not ask that and it's really meaningless because he can tell me what ever he wants :)
Oct 24 06:22:39 <EskimoBob>	lets take it step by step
Oct 24 06:23:08 <EskimoBob>	I did not want to chat for too long because it costs me arm and a leg
Oct 24 06:23:35 <Anduck>	a phone call around the world?
Oct 24 06:23:42 <EskimoBob>	5) He promised to make a official statement in his blog
Oct 24 06:24:26 <EskimoBob>	because hi is not reading the forum and is kinda fed up with all the screaming and jelling over there (he used some other words, but meaning was the same)
Oct 24 06:24:36 <EskimoBob>	Anduck: yes
Oct 24 06:24:40 <Anduck>	oki
Oct 24 06:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23058 @ 0.00043307 = 9.9857 BTC [-]
Oct 24 06:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6042 @ 0.00043302 = 2.6163 BTC [-]
Oct 24 07:06:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16806 @ 0.00043302 = 7.2773 BTC [-]
Oct 24 07:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22693 @ 0.00043294 = 9.8247 BTC [-]
Oct 24 07:08:16 <EskimoBob>	so, if he keeps his word and post a statement to his blog, it's a step forward and calms the fuck all the tinfoil hats wearing arm chair lawyers and other freaks down a bit
Oct 24 07:15:14 <EskimoBob>	smickles: I hope you can translate the last sentence for me in your PM :)
Oct 24 07:20:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i think he is enjoying a coupe of beers :)
Oct 24 07:26:00 <thestringpuller>	You guys stay up late
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Oct 24 07:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00043334 = 8.7968 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 07:56:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20107 @ 0.00043294 = 8.7051 BTC [-]
Oct 24 07:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10093 @ 0.00043289 = 4.3692 BTC [-]
Oct 24 07:59:57 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Oct 24 08:17:50 <kakobrekla>	!ticker s.mpoe
Oct 24 08:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00043289 / 0.00043581 / 0.00043867 (1389271 shares, 605.46 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.0003709 / 0.00046059 (90837912 shares, 33,692.13 BTC)
Oct 24 08:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 367 @ 0.00043334 = 0.159 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 08:35:53 <EskimoBob>	I have wasted 3 weeks on testing "alternative exchanges" for ART issue and I am fed up with this. Can you recommend me a working exchange
Oct 24 08:36:14 <gigavps>	do use an exchagne
Oct 24 08:36:18 <gigavps>	exchange
Oct 24 08:36:34 <gigavps>	don't
Oct 24 08:37:11 <gigavps>	EskimoBob after all of the ball breaking you do to asset issuers, why become one yourself? you going to start screaming at yourself?
Oct 24 08:39:38 <thestringpuller>	have you tried mpex EskimoBob ?
Oct 24 08:41:20 <gigavps>	mpex would be a good fit
Oct 24 08:41:37 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi you around?
Oct 24 08:41:42 <Chaang-Noi>	ping
Oct 24 08:41:56 <gigavps>	where is mircea when you need him
Oct 24 08:42:07 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, im not his keeper :)
Oct 24 08:42:12 <thestringpuller>	getting laid
Oct 24 08:42:57 <Chaang-Noi>	why would you think i would know where he was giga?
Oct 24 08:43:15 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi you were banned from the forums?
Oct 24 08:43:36 <gigavps>	sorry Chaang-Noi, didn't see you reply before i wrote thta
Oct 24 08:43:38 <gigavps>	that
Oct 24 08:43:49 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Oct 24 08:43:54 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i got perma banned
Oct 24 08:44:00 <gigavps>	o shit
Oct 24 08:44:05 <gigavps>	wtf happened?
Oct 24 08:44:07 <Chaang-Noi>	no warning or explination
Oct 24 08:44:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i assume it was cuz i was upset he told people to not send glbse money back that was adouble paid
Oct 24 08:44:46 <Chaang-Noi>	and also cuz i said neferio should not have a scammers tag cuz he had over 50% of the vote supporting the shut down
Oct 24 08:45:04 <Chaang-Noi>	i was also saying as a partner and stock holder nefario is liable for the glbse mess
Oct 24 08:45:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i meant theymos...
Oct 24 08:45:29 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos is liable...
Oct 24 08:45:32 <gigavps>	man, are you going to continue your business ventures in bitcoin?
Oct 24 08:45:47 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos is trying to stall the glbse mess by getting people to hold onto the double payment funds
Oct 24 08:46:04 <Chaang-Noi>	i have to gigavps
Oct 24 08:46:08 <Chaang-Noi>	i have an obligation
Oct 24 08:46:21 <rg>	theymos is a sneaky fuck
Oct 24 08:46:26 <rg>	hes obviously up to no good
Oct 24 08:46:30 <rg>	and making little effort to hide it
Oct 24 08:46:41 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi how you are going to meet your obligations?
Oct 24 08:46:43 <Chaang-Noi>	despite glbse and the forum kicking me out i still ahve to do what i ahve to do
Oct 24 08:46:50 <rg>	[08:46] <gigavps> Chaang-Noi how you are going to meet your obligations? -- litecoins!
Oct 24 08:47:14 <Chaang-Noi>	rg i think he is also upset that cuz of my questioning theymos the secret glbse logs got out and made theymos look bad
Oct 24 08:47:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15533 @ 0.00043334 = 6.7311 BTC [+]
Oct 24 08:47:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13367 @ 0.00043451 = 5.8081 BTC [+]
Oct 24 08:47:32 <Chaang-Noi>	gigavps i have to keep the btc and act in good faith until things get resolved
Oct 24 08:47:35 <rg>	truth hurts
Oct 24 08:47:46 <Chaang-Noi>	at this point the stock holders im sure are going to sue theymos and nefario and they will have to make something work
Oct 24 08:48:14 <Chaang-Noi>	but lol, im vip, i did advertising like for 6 months in a row and then, perma banned no warning
Oct 24 08:48:20 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Oct 24 08:48:36 <rg>	why answer for the truth when you can ban it
Oct 24 08:48:43 <gigavps>	man, first the de-listing and now this
Oct 24 08:48:45 <Chaang-Noi>	iv done nothing wrong other than show people theymos is not as clean as he wants people to think
Oct 24 08:48:55 <rg>	chaang: i tried to do the same thing
Oct 24 08:48:57 <gigavps>	well, pirate, de-listing, and now glbse
Oct 24 08:48:58 <rg>	and i got flamed on the forum
Oct 24 08:49:09 <rg>	all the 'hero members' ganged up on me
Oct 24 08:49:15 <Chaang-Noi>	i did nothing wrong
Oct 24 08:49:23 <rg>	all i did was ask theymos why the forum needs donations
Oct 24 08:49:23 <Chaang-Noi>	people will judge theymos for what he did
Oct 24 08:49:27 <rg>	and sells advertising
Oct 24 08:49:29 <Chaang-Noi>	just like they judged nefario
Oct 24 08:49:32 <rg>	and then i asked to see the financial logs
Oct 24 08:49:41 <rg>	as since hes claiming to be a non profit, they should be open for public inspection
Oct 24 08:50:06 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos was out of line for asking people not to send the double payment funds back
Oct 24 08:50:13 <rg>	to which he replied, "i mixed them in with my personal funds,i dont know what is what'
Oct 24 08:50:19 <Chaang-Noi>	he gave scammer tags for worce
Oct 24 08:50:31 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi is deleting your initial posts for your bonds acting in good faith?
Oct 24 08:51:02 <Chaang-Noi>	it was not offical anyway, and yeah, this is to protect the asset holders from SEC stuff
Oct 24 08:51:18 <Chaang-Noi>	its not like people did not save the contracts anyway
Oct 24 08:51:18 <gigavps>	what SEC stuff?
Oct 24 08:51:28 <Chaang-Noi>	SEC is wanting to talk to me about GLBSE
Oct 24 08:51:32 <Chaang-Noi>	and pirate
Oct 24 08:51:42 <gigavps>	why you?
Oct 24 08:52:16 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know, i had three differnt people who called the SEC tell me they asked for me to contact them
Oct 24 08:52:23 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been told however not to contact them so i wont
Oct 24 08:53:09 <gigavps>	hmmm
Oct 24 08:53:41 <Chaang-Noi>	it seems people who hold my assets and my interests are the same on this point
Oct 24 08:53:55 <gigavps>	so other people talked to the SEC and the representitive said to these people that they wanted to talk with you?
Oct 24 08:53:56 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway since i used a broker glbse im fine for the most part
Oct 24 08:54:04 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 24 08:54:15 <Chaang-Noi>	sadly one dumbass told the sec i was "scarred"
Oct 24 08:54:23 <gigavps>	wow
Oct 24 08:54:35 <Chaang-Noi>	he did that with out talking to me...
Oct 24 08:54:54 <Chaang-Noi>	these people where mostling bitching about pirate stuff, i know people who had thier own accounts
Oct 24 08:55:31 <gigavps>	if the SEC comes after you, are you not deleting evidence by removing the posts?
Oct 24 08:55:46 <Chaang-Noi>	the sec is not yet coming after me so no
Oct 24 08:55:53 <Chaang-Noi>	and they can get it back by asking theymos for it
Oct 24 08:56:02 <Chaang-Noi>	since theymos is a glbse owner im sure he will cooperate
Oct 24 08:56:09 <Chaang-Noi>	and also that was not offical anyway
Oct 24 08:56:17 <Chaang-Noi>	im sure nefario has the offical data
Oct 24 08:56:21 <gigavps>	i don't think the forum keeps pervious drafts
Oct 24 08:56:30 <Chaang-Noi>	yes the dod gigavps
Oct 24 08:56:43 <gigavps>	it saves deleted stuff
Oct 24 08:56:43 <Chaang-Noi>	they very much can recover deleated posts if they know where to look
Oct 24 08:56:47 <Chaang-Noi>	yes
Oct 24 08:57:12 <gigavps>	so how are you going to start paying people again?
Oct 24 08:57:23 <Chaang-Noi>	no idea, how are you?
Oct 24 08:57:54 <gigavps>	my attorney is working on it
Oct 24 08:57:58 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 24 08:58:23 <Chaang-Noi>	mine has more or less said the people who bought assets will ahve to sue glbse
Oct 24 08:58:35 <Chaang-Noi>	as glbse was the broker
Oct 24 08:58:53 <Chaang-Noi>	glbse codes just wont fly
Oct 24 09:00:32 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: mpex? I ratehr not. It's expensive and .. never mind
Oct 24 09:00:44 <gigavps>	so if nefario gives you a list of all he asset holds with email and payment addy, can you start paying again?
Oct 24 09:00:56 <gigavps>	EskimoBob you and mircea should get along great
Oct 24 09:01:06 <Chaang-Noi>	no, i can not pay people directly, i can only pay glbse
Oct 24 09:01:22 <Chaang-Noi>	if i pay directly i could go to jail
Oct 24 09:01:52 <Chaang-Noi>	first of all no americans, id have to make sure i was not paying an american
Oct 24 09:01:53 <gigavps>	so your counsel is saying you need a new broker?
Oct 24 09:02:08 <Chaang-Noi>	i need a broker
Oct 24 09:02:29 <Chaang-Noi>	and one who will take on all of nefarios liabilities for fucking this up
Oct 24 09:02:35 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: nothing to do with how we get along
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Oct 24 09:03:09 <EskimoBob>	would you go and list in mpex?
Oct 24 09:03:38 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi so if you get the list, can cryptostocks import it?
Oct 24 09:03:45 <Chaang-Noi>	list glbse stuff in mpex would piss off a lot of people cuz of the 30 btc fee to get in
Oct 24 09:04:05 <EskimoBob>	now it's 30?
Oct 24 09:04:10 <EskimoBob>	fuck that
Oct 24 09:04:26 <Chaang-Noi>	cryptostocks could, but they will not accept the liability to cover nefarios mistakes. like if someone thinks they hold more stock than crypto got, they can sue crypto
Oct 24 09:04:52 <Chaang-Noi>	cyrptostocks had already told neferio no
Oct 24 09:04:59 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: they can do pre transfer check
Oct 24 09:05:13 <EskimoBob>	and all be fine.
Oct 24 09:05:18 <EskimoBob>	how hard is that?
Oct 24 09:05:22 <Chaang-Noi>	that would be up to crypto stocks/glbse/me/and all of the shareholders to agree to before.
Oct 24 09:05:34 <Chaang-Noi>	but i dont even know who the share holders are
Oct 24 09:05:40 <Chaang-Noi>	and neither does crypto
Oct 24 09:05:50 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi can you not have your asset holders agree to a new contract that allows you to continue paying them personally
Oct 24 09:06:11 <Chaang-Noi>	not if i want to stay out of jail assuming one or more of them is an american
Oct 24 09:06:34 <Chaang-Noi>	also giga, right now i have no way to know for sure who is a asset holder
Oct 24 09:06:58 <Chaang-Noi>	my lawyer said the asset holders need to hold the broker, glbse accountable for this.
Oct 24 09:06:59 <gigavps>	yeah, i'm saying if glbse gave you the list they promised
Oct 24 09:07:17 <Chaang-Noi>	that list is worthless. they would need to give the list to a differnt broker,.
Oct 24 09:07:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont want a list, i cant accept a list
Oct 24 09:08:00 <gigavps>	lol, so you are saying that the only way to continue is for glbse to reopen?
Oct 24 09:08:26 <Chaang-Noi>	unless some other broker will accept the list
Oct 24 09:08:35 <Chaang-Noi>	take what i told you to your lawyer, you are an american
Oct 24 09:08:50 <Chaang-Noi>	im sure you have a skilled guy so im sure your guy will agree with mine
Oct 24 09:08:50 <gigavps>	i'm good
Oct 24 09:09:00 <Chaang-Noi>	if you do come up with a differnt solution im all ears
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Oct 24 09:09:18 <gigavps>	well, i'll let you know when i know
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Oct 24 09:09:35 <Chaang-Noi>	if you find some differnt way to do this that we cant think of i would like to know. thanks
Oct 24 09:10:00 <Chaang-Noi>	sadly this is not so easy, esp with the SEC wanting to talk with me
Oct 24 09:10:18 <Chaang-Noi>	its hard to do anything without GLBSE
Oct 24 09:10:40 <EskimoBob>	al you need is a third party to veryfy that list of hashes match and then complete the transfer and run one more check after the transfer is complete
Oct 24 09:10:59 <EskimoBob>	this is simple shit compared to the rest
Oct 24 09:11:34 <EskimoBob>	and you can give the sec holder the confirmation too
Oct 24 09:11:45 <Chaang-Noi>	i need a broker
Oct 24 09:11:52 <EskimoBob>	so, after the trasnfer is complete, everyone can make sure, that nothing was missed or lost
Oct 24 09:11:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i cant pay people directly
Oct 24 09:12:11 <Chaang-Noi>	i was told that is an extream no no
Oct 24 09:12:20 <Chaang-Noi>	apple cant pay you dividends directly
Oct 24 09:12:21 <EskimoBob>	define broker
Oct 24 09:12:46 <EskimoBob>	dude, broker is not paying my divs :)
Oct 24 09:12:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i send the money to a broker. they see fit who should get it and pass it on, they keep records
Oct 24 09:12:56 <EskimoBob>	define broker
Oct 24 09:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00043451 = 2.8243 BTC [+]
Oct 24 09:13:12 <Chaang-Noi>	glbse was acting as the broker and the exchange
Oct 24 09:13:25 <EskimoBob>	what do you mean by "broker"
Oct 24 09:13:28 <Chaang-Noi>	if glbse was only the exchange they would not be shutting down
Oct 24 09:13:42 <EskimoBob>	who told you that horse shit?
Oct 24 09:14:11 <Chaang-Noi>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockbroker
Oct 24 09:14:25 <Chaang-Noi>	horse shit
Oct 24 09:14:26 <Chaang-Noi>	?
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Oct 24 09:14:32 <EskimoBob>	glbse was exchange and clearing house but NOT a broker
Oct 24 09:14:48 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah they were, they listed the assets
Oct 24 09:14:51 <gigavps>	EskimoBob they acted as a broker
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Oct 24 09:15:12 <gigavps>	http://www.thefreedictionary.com/broker
Oct 24 09:15:23 <Chaang-Noi>	im not kidding no real stock in the usa like apple or ibm can mail out checks fod dividends directly to people
Oct 24 09:15:24 <gigavps>	One that acts as an agent for others, as in negotiating contracts, purchases, or sales in return for a fee or commission.
Oct 24 09:15:43 <EskimoBob>	really? and how is that? Maybe we all, who traded there are brokers?
Oct 24 09:15:51 <gigavps>	glbse charge a fee to match buyers and sellers
Oct 24 09:16:00 <Diablo-D3>	are we still arguing this?
Oct 24 09:16:00 <EskimoBob>	yes
Oct 24 09:16:10 <Chaang-Noi>	when the assets were listed on glbse, glbse was acting as the broker. the asset holders can not demand that i now act as the broker.
Oct 24 09:16:21 <EskimoBob>	and this is what EXCHANGEs to (actually clearing houses)
Oct 24 09:16:22 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yes, no one can
Oct 24 09:16:26 <Diablo-D3>	that wasnt part of the agreement
Oct 24 09:16:32 <Diablo-D3>	the only thing they can demand you do is buy them back at a fair price
Oct 24 09:16:42 <Diablo-D3>	which is pretty much what everyone is planning on doing
Oct 24 09:16:49 <Chaang-Noi>	D3 i will still ahve to pay a broker to do that
Oct 24 09:16:55 <Diablo-D3>	no you dont
Oct 24 09:17:01 <Diablo-D3>	not to buy them back forever and shut down
Oct 24 09:17:05 <EskimoBob>	forget that broker bull shit
Oct 24 09:17:09 <Chaang-Noi>	my lawyer who is trying to protect me from the SEC thinks that...
Oct 24 09:17:16 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: nope
Oct 24 09:17:23 <Chaang-Noi>	im not shutting down
Oct 24 09:17:27 <Diablo-D3>	oh you're not?
Oct 24 09:17:30 <Chaang-Noi>	im not going anywhere and im not spending the btc
Oct 24 09:17:31 <Diablo-D3>	then yes, you need a broker
Oct 24 09:17:37 <Diablo-D3>	everyone else IS shutting down
Oct 24 09:17:42 <Diablo-D3>	no one wants to play this game anymore
Oct 24 09:17:52 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: you are not shuting down what? PP's?
Oct 24 09:18:00 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah well... not my fault, nefario is the one who quit mid game
Oct 24 09:18:12 <Chaang-Noi>	what are PPs?
Oct 24 09:18:31 <EskimoBob>	you are joking
Oct 24 09:18:41 <Chaang-Noi>	do you mean ppts?
Oct 24 09:18:45 <EskimoBob>	yes
Oct 24 09:18:54 <Chaang-Noi>	you left out the t...
Oct 24 09:19:11 <EskimoBob>	looks like I did
Oct 24 09:19:12 <kuzetsa>	I'm assuming pps = pirateat40 / bitcoin saving and turst passthroughs (
Oct 24 09:19:14 <kuzetsa>	oops typo
Oct 24 09:19:15 <Chaang-Noi>	something like tygrr tech cant be shut down over night
Oct 24 09:19:29 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, the hardware has to be sold
Oct 24 09:19:31 <kuzetsa>	though... ermahgerd turst sounds funny.
Oct 24 09:19:33 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: you are not shuting down what? PPT's?
Oct 24 09:20:00 <Chaang-Noi>	right now im waiting for a workable solution
Oct 24 09:20:46 <Chaang-Noi>	glbse can quit as an exchagne but they cant quit as a broker after the sold someting... and they sold everything
Oct 24 09:21:08 <Chaang-Noi>	glbse nefario and theymos are liable for everything...
Oct 24 09:21:42 <Chaang-Noi>	in the usa if you buy apple stock from a broker and then the broker does sometihng retarded, you cant sue apple... you ahve to sue the broker
Oct 24 09:21:57 <kuzetsa>	Chaang-Noi: you're right
Oct 24 09:22:12 <Chaang-Noi>	i know
Oct 24 09:22:17 <Chaang-Noi>	and thats why i was perma banned
Oct 24 09:22:24 <kuzetsa>	serriously. it's not Chaang-Noi's fault the broker wasn't compliant with all the random international regulations
Oct 24 09:22:25 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz now theymos is on the line for everything in the usa
Oct 24 09:22:45 <Chaang-Noi>	my deal with with the broker, not to who the broker sold to.
Oct 24 09:22:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i will still send btc to the broker but he wont accept it
Oct 24 09:23:08 <Chaang-Noi>	the people who bought the assets need to sue the broker... and that is glbse
Oct 24 09:23:16 <Chaang-Noi>	in the usa that is theymos
Oct 24 09:23:27 *	kuzetsa shrugs
Oct 24 09:23:32 <Chaang-Noi>	theynos thinks by perma banning me he can avoid this bs...
Oct 24 09:23:42 <kuzetsa>	if there's a class action against theymos, doubt we'll hear about it on bitcointalk lol
Oct 24 09:23:47 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 24 09:23:53 <Chaang-Noi>	im sure im the first of many to be banned
Oct 24 09:24:00 <kuzetsa>	well shit :(
Oct 24 09:24:21 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos thinks its unfair he has to pay for nefarios mistake
Oct 24 09:24:28 <Chaang-Noi>	but that the deal he made...
Oct 24 09:24:55 <kuzetsa>	ah well. I'll just stop poking the drama with a stick and only use bitcointalk for technical / non-financial aspects of bitcoin
Oct 24 09:25:02 <EskimoBob>	has any of you actually any clue how use broker-exchange relationship works and and has any clue what are all the points in the middle?
Oct 24 09:25:14 <EskimoBob>	do any of you have*
Oct 24 09:25:26 <Chaang-Noi>	i was told i cant send money to the people directly
Oct 24 09:25:32 <Chaang-Noi>	i was told i have to sue a broker
Oct 24 09:25:38 <EskimoBob>	what money?
Oct 24 09:25:41 <Chaang-Noi>	and that the broker has to make sure they follow the laws
Oct 24 09:25:45 <kuzetsa>	like discussing how a properly regulated <whatever> can work in a universally / internationally legal way, or how <something something bitcoin software>
Oct 24 09:25:45 <EskimoBob>	BTC IS NOT MONEY!
Oct 24 09:26:00 <Chaang-Noi>	glbse is the one who went to the fsa in england
Oct 24 09:26:03 <kuzetsa>	EskimoBob: cars are not money
Oct 24 09:26:10 <kuzetsa>	stealing cars is still illegal :P
Oct 24 09:26:23 <EskimoBob>	wow, really?
Oct 24 09:26:30 <Chaang-Noi>	sadly my lawyer thinks the SEC will see btc as value...
Oct 24 09:26:30 <kuzetsa>	yuh huh
Oct 24 09:26:38 <kuzetsa>	cars are regulated too and everything
Oct 24 09:26:50 <Chaang-Noi>	if SEc did not why is there a several month investigation into this?
Oct 24 09:27:08 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: the government already recognizes BTC as a non-currency monetary implement
Oct 24 09:27:14 <Diablo-D3>	same way as WoW gold and that secondlife shit
Oct 24 09:27:39 <Diablo-D3>	you can commit crimes with it, you can have it stolen and call the real world police, etc
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Oct 24 09:27:43 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, its a very tricky area
Oct 24 09:28:01 <Chaang-Noi>	so im doing what my lawyer says and anyway the broker glbse did some crazy shit, no me
Oct 24 09:28:05 <Chaang-Noi>	not me
Oct 24 09:28:19 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: but yeah, if you were just shutting down
Oct 24 09:28:24 <Diablo-D3>	you wouldnt need a new broker
Oct 24 09:28:31 <Diablo-D3>	you could just accept the records from glbse and be done with it
Oct 24 09:28:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i cant pay people directly, i cant accept a list from a broker or i act as a broker
Oct 24 09:29:04 <Diablo-D3>	nope.
Oct 24 09:29:06 <Chaang-Noi>	im not a broker and i will not act as one
Oct 24 09:29:13 <Diablo-D3>	since the company is yours and the shares are of your company.
Oct 24 09:29:28 <Diablo-D3>	a company can buy back shares without becoming a broker
Oct 24 09:29:50 <Chaang-Noi>	D3... its not my company... in some im not even the majority stock holder...
Oct 24 09:30:00 <Diablo-D3>	who incorporated it?
Oct 24 09:30:42 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 im going to assume you are trying to help and not trolling. so i will jsut say my lawyer knows what is up and that the broker here needs to deal with this shit.
Oct 24 09:30:57 <Chaang-Noi>	if you disagree fine... best of luck
Oct 24 09:31:16 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: no, I mean, you _did_ make this a legal company, right?
Oct 24 09:31:29 <Chaang-Noi>	make what?
Oct 24 09:31:35 <Diablo-D3>	your tygrr shit
Oct 24 09:31:45 <Chaang-Noi>	define legal?
Oct 24 09:31:57 <Diablo-D3>	registered with your country, whatever that might be
Oct 24 09:31:57 <Chaang-Noi>	did i register with every govt in the world? no
Oct 24 09:32:09 <Chaang-Noi>	in thailand you do not need to register a company of this size
Oct 24 09:32:18 <Chaang-Noi>	im way under the limit, im acting legally here
Oct 24 09:32:22 <Diablo-D3>	huh, weird.
Oct 24 09:32:27 <Diablo-D3>	how do you pay taxes?
Oct 24 09:32:31 <Chaang-Noi>	VAT
Oct 24 09:32:42 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, see, in the US we dont have crazy shit like that
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Oct 24 09:32:48 <Chaang-Noi>	in thailand only people who make a shit load of money pay income tax
Oct 24 09:32:57 <Chaang-Noi>	most people do small business or have rice farms or grow cows
Oct 24 09:33:09 <Chaang-Noi>	so what they do is tax luxuray goods hard
Oct 24 09:33:14 <pigeons>	i've been traveling in the us and was suprised to learn some us states require you to get a business license/register any company, which seems awful draconian to me
Oct 24 09:33:17 <Chaang-Noi>	so beer and gpus cost a shit load
Oct 24 09:33:36 <Chaang-Noi>	a 7970 costs $600 here
Oct 24 09:33:49 <pigeons>	because the states i was used to dealing with that issue in only require certain businesses to be licensed
Oct 24 09:34:15 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, for doing a small mining company worht about $15,000 thailand does not give a fuck
Oct 24 09:34:34 <pigeons>	yeah
Oct 24 09:34:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i paid my tax when i bought my gpus... and pay for electric
Oct 24 09:34:51 <Chaang-Noi>	and if i had profit they will tax it when i spend it
Oct 24 09:35:29 <Chaang-Noi>	hell.. if every guy who grew rice had to register as a business, lol :)
Oct 24 09:38:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00043289 = 2.7705 BTC [-]
Oct 24 09:41:30 <gigavps>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120215.0
Oct 24 09:41:40 <rg>	my girl wants to
Oct 24 09:41:43 <rg>	party all the time
Oct 24 09:41:44 <rg>	party all the time
Oct 24 09:41:47 <rg>	partay!
Oct 24 09:42:42 <kakobrekla>	is this american only shirt?
Oct 24 09:42:51 <gigavps>	yes
Oct 24 09:43:00 <gigavps>	well
Oct 24 09:43:12 <gigavps>	you can where it in urup
Oct 24 09:43:28 <gigavps>	but it's a spin of obama logo
Oct 24 09:43:41 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: those american flag colors suck
Oct 24 09:43:48 <EskimoBob>	but the idea is nice
Oct 24 09:44:02 <gigavps>	EskimoBob please post your comments in the thread
Oct 24 09:44:21 <kakobrekla>	is this obama guy pro bitcoin?
Oct 24 09:44:39 <EskimoBob>	no, because there is no way to get that thread off my new posts list
Oct 24 09:45:06 <gigavps>	kakobrekla no idea
Oct 24 09:45:15 <gigavps>	he slogan is "change we can believe in"
Oct 24 09:45:19 <gigavps>	his*
Oct 24 09:45:25 *	gigavps can't type today
Oct 24 09:45:55 <kakobrekla>	what was the previous slogan
Oct 24 09:46:46 <kakobrekla>	oh well bbl
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Oct 24 10:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20599 @ 0.00043451 = 8.9505 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 10:08:34 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: looks like I am not the only one who has problems with the colours :)
Oct 24 10:09:36 <EskimoBob>	and I am not even going to mention Barack Hussein O. LOL
Oct 24 10:12:58 <Chaang-Noi>	gigavps add www.bitcoin.org to the ad or a qr code or something
Oct 24 10:13:05 <Chaang-Noi>	99.995 of the people wont get it
Oct 24 10:13:28 <Chaang-Noi>	oh is it a shirt or a sign?
Oct 24 10:14:00 <pigeons>	seems like its good for usa
Oct 24 10:14:31 <pigeons>	we're used to stuff like that
Oct 24 10:15:08 <EskimoBob>	no Chaang-Noi its a campaign button for guy from Kenya
Oct 24 10:15:30 <EskimoBob>	no, that other island
Oct 24 10:15:31 <Chaang-Noi>	button? that will be small
Oct 24 10:15:34 <EskimoBob>	you know....
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Oct 24 10:15:56 <EskimoBob>	amricans and geography jokes
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Oct 24 10:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00043563 = 7.0136 BTC [+]
Oct 24 10:29:51 <copumpkin>	so is clipse gone for good?
Oct 24 10:30:42 <pigeons>	i heard he was putting money from other stuff like mining proxy into <bannable> and lost all that stuff
Oct 24 10:31:39 <pigeons>	oh man, halfway interesting/funny <bannable> stuff right after he becomes bannable
Oct 24 10:32:17 <Chaang-Noi>	bannable?
Oct 24 10:32:24 <Chaang-Noi>	but yeah clipse was big into pirate
Oct 24 10:32:42 <Chaang-Noi>	and some people trcked down clipse but i dont think he has much left
Oct 24 10:32:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet he will get the scammers tag soon enough
Oct 24 10:33:11 <pigeons>	oh shit
Oct 24 10:33:19 <pigeons>	oops, bad irssi plugin
Oct 24 10:33:21 <pigeons>	sorry
Oct 24 10:33:37 <Chaang-Noi>	np i was just like wtf:)
Oct 24 10:36:40 <pigeons>	"cross between frank abengale and forrest gump"
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Oct 24 10:44:32 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i loled
Oct 24 10:51:46 <rg>	Clipse has a decent sized rig
Oct 24 10:51:54 <rg>	he can probably curb losses with it
Oct 24 10:51:56 <rg>	well
Oct 24 10:51:57 <rg>	maybe
Oct 24 10:52:03 <rg>	speculation
Oct 24 10:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4307 @ 0.00043289 = 1.8645 BTC [-]
Oct 24 10:53:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11103 @ 0.00043287 = 4.8062 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 11:19:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33452 @ 0.00043287 = 14.4804 BTC [-]
Oct 24 11:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2348 @ 0.00043268 = 1.0159 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 11:44:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5469 @ 0.00043264 = 2.3661 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 12:10:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00043398 = 9.374 BTC [+]
Oct 24 12:18:12 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: are you here?
Oct 24 12:19:10 <EskimoBob>	do you want one of The Mug's? 3 are going to the kiln tomorrow, in about 18 h from now
Oct 24 12:21:06 <EskimoBob>	I changed the "design" of the B a little bit and The Mug #2 is bigger too so you can enjoy that last cold 1/4 of a cup people usually have left
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Oct 24 12:32:53 <EskimoBob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102010.msg1295084#msg1295084
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Oct 24 12:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00043426 = 10.4222 BTC [+]
Oct 24 12:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12125 @ 0.0004351 = 5.2756 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 12:49:15 <thepulledstring>	do puts on apple!
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Oct 24 12:55:29 <Chaang-Noi>	you are going to need to talk to a broker to do that
Oct 24 12:55:38 <Chaang-Noi>	dont call up apple
Oct 24 12:56:07 <thepulledstring>	I'm already doing puts on apple
Oct 24 12:57:20 <Chaang-Noi>	with a broker? :)
Oct 24 12:57:25 <Chaang-Noi>	but yeah... its a good bet
Oct 24 12:57:35 <thepulledstring>	that's what my broker says
Oct 24 12:57:41 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Oct 24 12:57:44 <thepulledstring>	I don't have a lot of money
Oct 24 12:57:52 <thepulledstring>	but at least I can make a little money
Oct 24 12:57:59 <Chaang-Noi>	you hope :)
Oct 24 12:58:08 <Chaang-Noi>	but id think its a sound bet
Oct 24 12:58:21 <thepulledstring>	I told everyone at work to sell short on apple if they had margin accounts back when the iphone 5 was annonce
Oct 24 12:58:24 <thepulledstring>	announce
Oct 24 12:58:30 <Chaang-Noi>	or wait, you did puts? not sell short?
Oct 24 12:58:39 <Chaang-Noi>	well, that might be risky then
Oct 24 12:58:46 <Chaang-Noi>	options are not good unless you know what you are doing
Oct 24 12:58:52 <thepulledstring>	yea but it would have made tons of money
Oct 24 12:58:55 <thepulledstring>	back in september
Oct 24 12:59:02 <Chaang-Noi>	well...
Oct 24 12:59:06 <thepulledstring>	aapl went down from 760 -> 620
Oct 24 12:59:10 <thepulledstring>	one day it went below 600
Oct 24 12:59:28 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah,,,, well best of luck
Oct 24 13:00:04 <thepulledstring>	but it was predictable cause their production company wasn't going to be able to fill what they announced without making a scene...
Oct 24 13:00:13 <thepulledstring>	*shrug*
Oct 24 13:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00043744 = 17.935 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 13:26:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3145 @ 0.00043744 = 1.3757 BTC [+]
Oct 24 13:26:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14675 @ 0.00043726 = 6.4168 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 13:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0004364 = 0.4364 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 13:38:23 <thestringpuller>	lord smickles message me when you get a chance
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Oct 24 14:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.0004364 = 8.1607 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 14:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16380 @ 0.0004364 = 7.1482 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 14:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6819 @ 0.00043664 = 2.9774 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 15:20:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8986 @ 0.00043664 = 3.9236 BTC [+]
Oct 24 15:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38700 @ 0.00043518 = 16.8415 BTC [-]
Oct 24 15:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4914 @ 0.00043483 = 2.1368 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 15:45:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00043526 = 0.6964 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 16:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30286 @ 0.00043483 = 13.1693 BTC [-]
Oct 24 16:11:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00043399 = 4.3399 BTC [-]
Oct 24 16:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00043398 = 4.687 BTC [-]
Oct 24 16:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2214 @ 0.00043384 = 0.9605 BTC [-]
Oct 24 16:12:44 <chmod755>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 980000 @ 0.00001598 = 15.6604 BTC [-]
Oct 24 16:15:27 <jurov>	somehow silent here - throwing in: http://codinginmysleep.com/confessions-of-a-pirate-pass-through-operator/
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Oct 24 16:26:34 <dub>	thats basically the same story that was public
Oct 24 16:27:34 <dub>	not that he was issuing options but enbling large btc buys while managing the gox price
Oct 24 16:37:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9030 @ 0.00043384 = 3.9176 BTC [-]
Oct 24 16:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16205 @ 0.00043354 = 7.0255 BTC [-]
Oct 24 16:39:05 <thestringpuller>	damn mpoe went down
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Oct 24 17:03:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00043526 = 5.3102 BTC [+]
Oct 24 17:03:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5432 @ 0.00043534 = 2.3648 BTC [+]
Oct 24 17:04:53 <PsychoticBoy>	sold my last mpoe
Oct 24 17:05:39 <thestringpuller>	I thought it was free floating so I bought some a little high
Oct 24 17:05:44 <thestringpuller>	at .000436
Oct 24 17:05:47 <jurov>	u no want dividends?
Oct 24 17:06:07 <thestringpuller>	unless you have real money dividends are useless
Oct 24 17:07:52 <jurov>	what do you mean? too small?
Oct 24 17:10:04 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 24 17:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00043534 = 0.4353 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 17:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17375 @ 0.00043354 = 7.5328 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 18:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00043354 = 5.9395 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 18:37:15 <thestringpuller>	I hate how this channel is dead now :(
Oct 24 18:37:44 <dub>	where is mircea?
Oct 24 18:38:10 <dub>	he was life of the party
Oct 24 18:39:16 <thestringpuller>	probably went out to get laid
Oct 24 18:39:26 <thestringpuller>	in the middle of a power outage or something
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Oct 24 18:39:37 <dub>	he wasnt gettign laid while at all times while talking to us?
Oct 24 18:40:15 <thestringpuller>	lost money on mpoe today
Oct 24 18:40:18 <thestringpuller>	gotta hold :(
Oct 24 18:40:28 <thestringpuller>	they need a btc->nyse exchange
Oct 24 18:42:54 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Oct 24 18:42:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00043264 / 0.00043525 / 0.00043867 (1296983 shares, 564.52 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.0003717 / 0.00046059 (86589171 shares, 32,185.50 BTC)
Oct 24 18:44:18 <mod6>	(15:37) < thestringpuller> I hate how this channel is dead now :(
Oct 24 18:44:49 <mod6>	it has been quiet from time to time
Oct 24 18:45:18 <thestringpuller>	no one wants to create btc ventures now
Oct 24 18:45:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00043354 = 1.0405 BTC [-]
Oct 24 18:45:43 <mod6>	(15:44)  (!) Irssi: #bitcoin-assets: Total of 110 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 109 normal]
Oct 24 18:45:52 <mod6>	seems like it was 100 last I checked
Oct 24 18:45:59 <mod6>	*shrug*
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Oct 24 18:48:31 <dub>	thestringpuller: talk to us when pirate pays out
Oct 24 18:48:44 <thestringpuller>	you can't blame all your problems on pirate
Oct 24 18:49:22 <dub>	we can blame having no money on him though
Oct 24 18:51:07 <thestringpuller>	you guys are supposed to be resilient
Oct 24 18:51:13 <thestringpuller>	gettin' dat paper
Oct 24 18:51:21 <thestringpuller>	do you see dr. dre complainin?
Oct 24 18:51:40 <thestringpuller>	in about 2 weeks I'm just going to start selling drugs
Oct 24 18:51:45 <thestringpuller>	it's more profitable than starting a business
Oct 24 19:01:12 <mod6>	lol was Dr Dre a pirate investor?
Oct 24 19:02:06 <thestringpuller>	if he was he wouldn't be complaining when his money went poof
Oct 24 19:02:11 <thestringpuller>	he'd hit dem streets and move product
Oct 24 19:02:21 <thestringpuller>	be it headphones, cd's, or concerts
Oct 24 19:06:00 <mod6>	KEEP THEIR HEADS RINGIN
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Oct 24 19:11:32 <mod6>	http://youtu.be/TE891IHxyV8
Oct 24 19:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2420 @ 0.00043354 = 1.0492 BTC [-]
Oct 24 19:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42535 @ 0.00043351 = 18.4393 BTC [-]
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Oct 24 19:19:49 <thestringpuller>	mpoe is plummetting today
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Oct 24 19:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12347 @ 0.00043534 = 5.3751 BTC [+]
Oct 24 19:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16153 @ 0.00043539 = 7.0329 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 19:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	"Putetumadre, what a great article. Insight untold and unparallelled here. Tip of my hat. Where is the Bitcoin donation button? How can I reprint this on my Web site? Please e-mail me with answers. Thanks :-)"
Oct 24 19:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	blogging rocks.
Oct 24 19:47:16 <thestringpuller>	where is that from?
Oct 24 19:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	my blog.
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Oct 24 19:48:25 <thestringpuller>	ah
Oct 24 19:48:30 <thestringpuller>	I posted your blog to reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/120zdj/gpg_contracts_vs_traditional_contracts_law/
Oct 24 19:48:39 <thestringpuller>	just to see what redditors had to say
Oct 24 19:48:56 <thestringpuller>	http://i.imgur.com/t7W9K.gif - by far my favorite response
Oct 24 19:49:10 *	mircea_popescu looks
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Oct 24 19:52:18 <thestringpuller>	redditors are not nearly as bright as you'd want though unfortunately
Oct 24 19:52:29 <thestringpuller>	reddit is beginning its eternal september :\
Oct 24 19:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	ahhh that was nice tho
Oct 24 19:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	it's not that they're not that bright, it's that mostly they live on welfare.
Oct 24 19:55:33 <thestringpuller>	when you say welfare do you mean actual welfare?
Oct 24 19:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	smickles http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/120zdj/gpg_contracts_vs_traditional_contracts_law/ gib a vote man
Oct 24 19:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller yes.
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Oct 24 19:56:00 <thestringpuller>	do that many people actually depend on welfare?
Oct 24 19:56:15 <mircea_popescu>	in some parts of the world over half the population
Oct 24 19:56:19 <thestringpuller>	Damn
Oct 24 19:56:28 <thestringpuller>	at that point why not just sell drugs?
Oct 24 19:56:43 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Oct 24 19:56:48 <thestringpuller>	like fo realz
Oct 24 19:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	why do you think the "war on drugs" isn't winnable
Oct 24 19:57:02 <thestringpuller>	i never thought the war on drugs was real
Oct 24 19:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	let me dig you up a nice article from a while back
Oct 24 19:57:13 <thestringpuller>	due to the states involvement in making it profitable for cartels
Oct 24 19:57:47 <thestringpuller>	I always thought the war on drugs was a cover for incarcerating people for free labor.
Oct 24 19:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/11/the_terrible_awful_truth_about_1.html
Oct 24 19:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://coinbits.com/2012/10/24/gpg-contracts-vs-traditional-contracts-law/ what the hell is this thing supposed to be ?!
Oct 24 20:00:27 <thestringpuller>	Looks like a bot
Oct 24 20:00:27 <thestringpuller>	haha
Oct 24 20:00:36 <thestringpuller>	also that article had a reference to _Network_
Oct 24 20:00:41 <thestringpuller>	which is an AWESOME movie
Oct 24 20:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Oct 24 20:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	pretty smart chick.
Oct 24 20:01:58 <thestringpuller>	the ironic thing about the movie network
Oct 24 20:02:09 <thestringpuller>	is when the guy went crazy on the air
Oct 24 20:02:15 <thestringpuller>	they just marketed it to people
Oct 24 20:02:33 <thestringpuller>	so the whole reason he went crazy was for moot almost
Oct 24 20:03:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00043539 = 0.566 BTC [+]
Oct 24 20:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	that's how the theory goes.
Oct 24 20:04:05 <thestringpuller>	So DL Hughley came on the Daily Show a few nights ago, and he was saying how he interviewed these gang members. And he said, "Why don't we hook you up with stock options of the prisons you'll be doing time in, when you do time"
Oct 24 20:04:25 <thestringpuller>	so he hooked up a bunch of gang members with legit stock options, which may become the standard for "hazard pay"
Oct 24 20:05:41 <iz>	how much does 1 incarceration really affect the value of the prison's stock though?
Oct 24 20:05:59 <iz>	seems like it would be pretty negligible
Oct 24 20:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	iz i guess it's more like the principle of the thing, like invederate gamblers owning s.dice stock
Oct 24 20:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	or people dealing in options owning mpoe stock. you get a discount
Oct 24 20:06:26 <iz>	yeah, it's a cool idea, but not terribly practical
Oct 24 20:06:33 <thestringpuller>	if you're incarcerated chances are you'll be doing labor for free
Oct 24 20:06:37 <rg>	iz: you ever hang out on Undernet?
Oct 24 20:06:41 <iz>	you could probably make more money by finding change in your car
Oct 24 20:06:57 <iz>	rg: i did for a bit, but under a different nick
Oct 24 20:07:01 <mircea_popescu>	iz people who go to prison aren't really the best at making money.
Oct 24 20:07:04 <rg>	daz?
Oct 24 20:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	if they were they wouldn't be there.
Oct 24 20:07:10 <rg>	#malice ?
Oct 24 20:07:23 <iz>	nope, different person probably
Oct 24 20:07:27 <thestringpuller>	some people who go to prison though are patsies and get paid comfortably
Oct 24 20:07:27 <rg>	yeah
Oct 24 20:07:31 <rg>	i doubt ill ever find daz again
Oct 24 20:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller a bunch ya
Oct 24 20:08:31 <thestringpuller>	trying to find the quote from dl hughley
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Oct 24 20:09:46 <thestringpuller>	okay so I think it's more the gang buys stock in the companies that own the prison's they'll be serving time in
Oct 24 20:09:58 <thestringpuller>	and put that as part of the hazard pay
Oct 24 20:10:00 <iz>	ah, that makes more sense
Oct 24 20:10:02 <thestringpuller>	I'll have to look into it
Oct 24 20:10:40 <thestringpuller>	my point is their are better ways to "game the system"
Oct 24 20:10:45 <thestringpuller>	there*
Oct 24 20:11:34 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I was thinking about what yo said a few days ago. BTC is not for the average consumer. What if someone did a BTC -> Stock Exchange pass thru?
Oct 24 20:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	you mean stock exchange as in , nyse ?
Oct 24 20:12:02 <thestringpuller>	yessir
Oct 24 20:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	what is the benefit ?
Oct 24 20:12:27 <thestringpuller>	expose btc to wider markets
Oct 24 20:12:34 <mircea_popescu>	how does it expose btc to anything ?
Oct 24 20:12:40 <mircea_popescu>	people buying stocks still buy them in usd
Oct 24 20:13:07 <thestringpuller>	that makes btc a "closed system" then
Oct 24 20:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	no, not really.
Oct 24 20:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	the thing to do is getting future contracts with physical delivery IN BTC.
Oct 24 20:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	something i've been working on for what, six months now.
Oct 24 20:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	once that happens we're golden.
Oct 24 20:13:40 <thestringpuller>	physical delivery?
Oct 24 20:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Oct 24 20:13:49 <thestringpuller>	as in like FedEx?
Oct 24 20:13:57 <mircea_popescu>	no lol. as in cushing, ok
Oct 24 20:14:27 <thestringpuller>	care to elaborate a little?
Oct 24 20:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	you know what future contracts are ?
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Oct 24 20:15:00 <thestringpuller>	of futures exchange
Oct 24 20:15:05 <thestringpuller>	I totally misread that sentence
Oct 24 20:15:09 <thestringpuller>	I'm a dumbass
Oct 24 20:15:12 <thestringpuller>	sorry :(
Oct 24 20:15:18 <thestringpuller>	oh*
Oct 24 20:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol np
Oct 24 20:17:34 <thestringpuller>	so you're implementing a futures option for mpex? neat :)
Oct 24 20:17:45 <thestringpuller>	future contracts*
Oct 24 20:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	trying to.
Oct 24 20:20:22 <thestringpuller>	You have a lot of financial knowledge for a programmer
Oct 24 20:20:25 <thestringpuller>	very rare
Oct 24 20:20:31 <mircea_popescu>	who told you i was a programmer ?!
Oct 24 20:20:39 <thestringpuller>	Are you a programmer?
Oct 24 20:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Oct 24 20:20:44 <thestringpuller>	okay nvm
Oct 24 20:20:46 <thestringpuller>	hahaha
Oct 24 20:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 24 20:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	im on the internet so therefore im a programmer :D
Oct 24 20:21:02 <thestringpuller>	exactly!
Oct 24 20:21:04 <thestringpuller>	:)
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Oct 24 20:26:06 <thestringpuller>	MPOE has been weird today
Oct 24 20:27:19 <thestringpuller>	Why does no one want satoshi dice?
Oct 24 20:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49196 @ 0.00043439 = 21.3703 BTC [-]
Oct 24 20:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 24 20:30:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00298639 / 0.0034 (2013520 shares, 6,013.16 BTC)
Oct 24 20:30:15 <thestringpuller>	stagnant like a mosquito pond
Oct 24 20:30:15 <mircea_popescu>	70-80k a month isn't really much is it.
Oct 24 20:30:27 <thestringpuller>	!ticker s.mpoe
Oct 24 20:30:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00043264 / 0.00043505 / 0.00043867 (1298344 shares, 564.86 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00037181 / 0.00046059 (86641622 shares, 32,214.45 BTC)
Oct 24 20:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	heh yea
Oct 24 20:30:55 <thestringpuller>	!ticker s.bvps
Oct 24 20:30:56 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0027501 / 0.00345047 / 0.00355 (63482 shares, 219.04 BTC)
Oct 24 20:31:03 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 24 20:31:04 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Oct 24 20:31:36 <thestringpuller>	I must say, I've learned more about finance from the BTC community than anywhere else.
Oct 24 20:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	i like how the price graph tells the story of the sec panic
Oct 24 20:31:56 <gp5st>	the exchanges listed in the topic, why will they not encounter the same legal problems glbse ran into?
Oct 24 20:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i always said, btc is a very cheap way to gain a good financial education
Oct 24 20:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	gp5st how do you know glbbq ran into legal problems ?
Oct 24 20:32:37 <gp5st>	mircea_popescu: i guess i just assumed they did.
Oct 24 20:33:04 <gp5st>	seems to be the common answer whenever asked about it
Oct 24 20:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	pirate had "some friends that decided to make things difficult"
Oct 24 20:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	what guarantees you don't have some friends that will make things difficult ?
Oct 24 20:33:35 <gp5st>	mircea_popescu: since that's a vauge statement i can't give anything but a vauge answer
Oct 24 20:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 24 20:33:49 <mircea_popescu>	the "legal troubles" is no better and no different.
Oct 24 20:34:43 <gp5st>	well, moving on to more tangible topics: of the exchanges listed in the topic, which has the most volume (I'm currently looking into them, so I'm still learning)
Oct 24 20:35:06 <kakobreklaaa>	bit4x
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Oct 24 20:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 24 20:35:09 <kakobreklaaa>	pwn.
Oct 24 20:35:27 <mircea_popescu>	gp5st mpex is doing ~60k atm. it was always doing about 3x to 5x glbse volume
Oct 24 20:35:48 <gp5st>	ok
Oct 24 20:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	actually towards the end it was prolly more like 10x, but heck.
Oct 24 20:37:40 <thestringpuller>	mpex isn't very diverse though
Oct 24 20:37:47 <thestringpuller>	in terms of stocks
Oct 24 20:37:49 <thestringpuller>	:P
Oct 24 20:38:07 <thestringpuller>	but then again that's not mpex's fault, there aren't a lot of btc-based companies worth listing
Oct 24 20:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	i was gonna say, you know i could make it VERY diverse in about half hour
Oct 24 20:38:38 <mod6>	lol
Oct 24 20:38:45 <mircea_popescu>	and then gp5st's question would suddenly gain lots of flesh
Oct 24 20:39:52 <thestringpuller>	would you list bitinstant?
Oct 24 20:40:01 <thestringpuller>	if they were allowed to be listed on MPEX
Oct 24 20:40:08 <thestringpuller>	(based on their lawyers discretion)
Oct 24 20:40:52 <gp5st>	what are the 3 companies with stock listed?
Oct 24 20:41:19 <mod6>	S.MPOE | S.BVPS | S.DICE
Oct 24 20:41:42 <gp5st>	yes, i see those:) what/who are they though
Oct 24 20:41:52 <gp5st>	nvm
Oct 24 20:41:59 <gp5st>	there is a details link i missed before
Oct 24 20:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	gp5st s.mpoe is the conglomerate of mpoe (the options broker) and mpex (the stock exchange). the historical contract is found here :
Oct 24 20:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745
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Oct 24 20:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice is satoshi dice. s.bvps is bitvps, rg's hosting company
Oct 24 20:44:16 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller in principle yes, but a lot depends on what contract can be agreed upon.
Oct 24 20:44:51 <thestringpuller>	I'm just wondering more of, if a BTC based company becomes profitable and takes VC money, does that mean it's bound by regulation now??
Oct 24 20:45:03 <thestringpuller>	Or can it still exist in the "gray-sphere"
Oct 24 20:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	i guess that'd also depend on the contract they entered into with the vcs
Oct 24 20:45:34 <mircea_popescu>	there's no "gray sphere"
Oct 24 20:45:50 <mircea_popescu>	there's a tiny fraction of the world called the united states, and a much larger, comparatively more important rest.
Oct 24 20:46:05 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 24 20:46:15 <thestringpuller>	Does everyone hate Murica?
Oct 24 20:46:22 <mircea_popescu>	why hate ?
Oct 24 20:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	this is like new yorkers thinking the us=new york.
Oct 24 20:46:38 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 24 20:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	there's 10 mn people living in new york and 290 mn people NOT living in new york.
Oct 24 20:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	just so there's 300mn people living in the us and 6,8 bn people NOT living in the us
Oct 24 20:47:11 <thestringpuller>	New York is a good manifestation of American capitalism...
Oct 24 20:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	these days it's mostly a sad manifestation of american welfarism, but anyway.
Oct 24 20:47:42 <thestringpuller>	lol everybody on welfare!
Oct 24 20:47:57 <thestringpuller>	except jon steward
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Oct 24 20:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	you can't tell me that something is a manifestation of capitalism when that something is traditionally blue
Oct 24 20:49:41 <thestringpuller>	there are a lot of welfare recipients...
Oct 24 20:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	starving "artists" + university "students" => socialist environment.
Oct 24 20:51:09 <thestringpuller>	*facepalm* I laugh inside because the stereotype is true.
Oct 24 20:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Oct 24 20:51:40 <thestringpuller>	There is a section of Atlanta just like that. Full of new age retro hippies.
Oct 24 20:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	kinda fun to hang out with,
Oct 24 20:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	but kinda difficult to take seriously.
Oct 24 20:52:01 <thestringpuller>	"wanna by my art maaaan?" no get a job hippie
Oct 24 20:53:16 <thestringpuller>	The coinbase funding is dumb. Coinbase is not even that good, it's all hype. Blockchain.info has so many more features...
Oct 24 20:53:34 <thestringpuller>	(random topic)
Oct 24 20:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	uhhk?
Oct 24 20:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7772 @ 0.00043539 = 3.3839 BTC [+]
Oct 24 20:54:52 <thestringpuller>	they got a bunch of funding from ycombinator
Oct 24 20:55:38 <thestringpuller>	almost 1M and it's pretty much blockchain's wallet with "prospective features"
Oct 24 20:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	im not even sure what coinbase is, so i guesshey may have a point lol
Oct 24 20:55:58 <thestringpuller>	blockchain.info*
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Oct 24 20:56:47 <gp5st>	i'm sorry if i'm being a pain: how do the options work on mpex?
Oct 24 20:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	gp5st you're not a pain, kinda what this chan is for. do you know options in general ?
Oct 24 20:58:21 <gp5st>	a little bit. i buy an option @ a price and then when it expires i need to buy the underlying thing at the price i bought the option at?
Oct 24 20:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's a future.
Oct 24 20:58:44 <gp5st>	ah, then i guess i do not
Oct 24 20:58:46 <mircea_popescu>	options convey the right but not the obligation to either buy (calls) or sell (puts) at the strike price
Oct 24 20:59:12 <mircea_popescu>	mpex options are american-style, so that option is there all through till expiration (unlike european style, where option only exists at expiration)
Oct 24 20:59:42 <thestringpuller>	what's the premium on the options
Oct 24 21:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	well what the bot asks, neh ?
Oct 24 21:00:30 <gp5st>	ic
Oct 24 21:00:30 <thestringpuller>	Haha
Oct 24 21:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	gp5st anyway, a good idea is to read up on options in general, mpex is pretty much the same.
Oct 24 21:01:32 <gp5st>	so if i buy one $1/btc option, what happens on fri? i can sell or buy what with it?
Oct 24 21:01:59 <gp5st>	yeah, i'm in the process of trying to learn about how financial markets work
Oct 24 21:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	option, call or put ?
Oct 24 21:02:05 <gp5st>	there is a lot there to learn
Oct 24 21:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	there is a lot to learn. as i was saying, bitcoin is a very cheap way to learn finance, comparatively. so, good for you.
Oct 24 21:02:52 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is to finance what computer fly simulators are to pilots i'd say.
Oct 24 21:04:33 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu so btc can be used to train people to be good traders?
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Oct 24 21:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Oct 24 21:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	if i ran an investment bank/hedge fund what i'd do is give all interns 1k btc, hire the top x ones by final btc
Oct 24 21:06:11 <thestringpuller>	that's how I found my interns
Oct 24 21:06:16 <thestringpuller>	gave them all 1 btc
Oct 24 21:06:22 <thestringpuller>	whoever brings back 2 btc gets a job
Oct 24 21:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	haha yeah
Oct 24 21:07:04 <thestringpuller>	ironically the only person who succeeded was a 17 year old girl who is a physics/econ major...
Oct 24 21:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	hire her.
Oct 24 21:08:16 <thestringpuller>	already did. hopefully she can help grow my startup
Oct 24 21:08:29 <thestringpuller>	or at least the btc sector
Oct 24 21:08:45 <mircea_popescu>	17 yo girls with physics/econ can make anything grow.
Oct 24 21:08:50 <thestringpuller>	XD
Oct 24 21:08:59 <thestringpuller>	that's what she said!
Oct 24 21:09:17 <mircea_popescu>	"And saying that economics is the central component of western cultural identity and that indigenous people's downfall is because they simply implemented it the wrong way is beyond retarded."
Oct 24 21:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	lolz. teh reddit socialists at the rescue!
Oct 24 21:10:03 <thestringpuller>	reddit is eternal september mang
Oct 24 21:10:14 <thestringpuller>	kinda sucks
Oct 24 21:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	this promises to be fun.
Oct 24 21:11:11 <gp5st>	what are the legal ramifications for listing on mpex? would a us-based company be able to put shares on it?
Oct 24 21:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	gp5st i'm really not qualified to discuss that. us-based company should make its own determination.
Oct 24 21:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	however, if that company isn't principally taking a btc revenue it makes little sense to list on mpex
Oct 24 21:12:06 <gp5st>	i was just curious what the limitations dice and bvps had
Oct 24 21:12:16 <gp5st>	i shouldn't have made it so us-centric
Oct 24 21:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	(for purely accounting reasons, shares in btc, revenues in non-btc, makes a mess)
Oct 24 21:12:45 <thestringpuller>	do they tax BTC income yet?
Oct 24 21:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	like everything else, once you realise a profit.
Oct 24 21:13:31 <thestringpuller>	if your revenue stream was comprised of 100% BTC, would you claim it?
Oct 24 21:13:32 <gp5st>	but only a profit from in a recognized currency, like usd or eur, right?
Oct 24 21:13:38 <thestringpuller>	or just be like "uh it's play money"
Oct 24 21:13:49 <thestringpuller>	I know it depends on the country
Oct 24 21:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	gp5st if you sell btc and now have extra eur or w/e you'd declare it like any other revenue
Oct 24 21:14:09 <thestringpuller>	seems like the best place to make a btc business is romania...
Oct 24 21:14:14 <mircea_popescu>	as long as you keep it as btc afaik in most jurisdictions there's no declaration
Oct 24 21:14:21 <gp5st>	yes, but if i buy a stock with btc, and sell it for more btc...
Oct 24 21:14:26 <gp5st>	thestringpuller: how come?
Oct 24 21:14:32 <gp5st>	gotchya mircea_popescu
Oct 24 21:14:41 <thestringpuller>	smickles said the romanian lawyers see BTC as play money
Oct 24 21:17:04 <gp5st>	take care
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Oct 24 21:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3875 @ 0.00043439 = 1.6833 BTC [-]
Oct 24 21:20:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33625 @ 0.0004338 = 14.5865 BTC [-]
Oct 24 21:20:40 <dub>	the war on drugs is not winnable because nobody is trying to win it, like the war on terror
Oct 24 21:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	nobody is trying because there's nothing to try.
Oct 24 21:21:20 <dub>	its not about winning its about the war
Oct 24 21:21:58 <dub>	if the war was won there would need to be another war which is just more work, best keep no winning the existing ones
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Oct 24 21:25:38 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: so will there ever be intermediate options?
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Oct 24 21:25:44 <thestringpuller>	like 9.50
Oct 24 21:25:48 <thestringpuller>	or 10.50 etc
Oct 24 21:25:55 <mircea_popescu>	there were.
Oct 24 21:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	a few months ago btc was ~5 and options went 1 to 10 at a .5 step
Oct 24 21:26:57 <thestringpuller>	people who did puts at 12 before the glbbq fiasco....
Oct 24 21:27:01 <thestringpuller>	lucky bastards
Oct 24 21:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 24 21:27:21 <mircea_popescu>	back in august i actually booked a ~4k loss
Oct 24 21:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	due to that post-pirate slosh
Oct 24 21:28:45 <thestringpuller>	given MPOE is the options broker, would you ever let third parties exercise the options?
Oct 24 21:28:53 <thestringpuller>	to like hedge your risks?
Oct 24 21:29:01 <thestringpuller>	err
Oct 24 21:29:02 <thestringpuller>	sell*
Oct 24 21:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	of course ?
Oct 24 21:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	there's both a mkopt and a split option implemented, you know this ?
Oct 24 21:29:45 <thestringpuller>	I'm accessing via coinbr
Oct 24 21:29:57 <thestringpuller>	I don't have enough cashflow for a legit account
Oct 24 21:30:04 <mircea_popescu>	i think jurov has those too neh ?
Oct 24 21:30:35 <thestringpuller>	Don't think he put in MKOPT
Oct 24 21:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	(then again, if you don't have the cash flow to go directly to mpex it may be the case you're not well served by underwriting options)
Oct 24 21:31:12 <thestringpuller>	underwriting in what sense?
Oct 24 21:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	when you create and sell an option
Oct 24 21:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	this is called underwriting
Oct 24 21:32:25 <thestringpuller>	I usually relate underwriting to insurance
Oct 24 21:32:33 <thestringpuller>	I personally wouldn't sell contracts
Oct 24 21:32:37 <thestringpuller>	I would buy them
Oct 24 21:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	a well if you buy them then im sure coinbr has buy.sell
Oct 24 21:34:31 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 24 21:34:41 <thestringpuller>	I guess I'm overanalyzing.
Oct 24 21:34:45 <thestringpuller>	Sorry for being dumb
Oct 24 21:35:43 <thestringpuller>	lot of people wanting to call at $12
Oct 24 21:43:27 <mircea_popescu>	eh asking q's isn't that dumb.
Oct 24 21:44:40 <thestringpuller>	i guess refusing to listen is dumb
Oct 24 21:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16475 @ 0.0004338 = 7.1469 BTC [-]
Oct 24 21:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7465 @ 0.00043351 = 3.2362 BTC [-]
Oct 24 21:45:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6038 @ 0.00043336 = 2.6166 BTC [-]
Oct 24 21:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2822 @ 0.00043313 = 1.2223 BTC [-]
Oct 24 21:46:14 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Oct 24 21:46:27 <thestringpuller>	i shouldn't have bought at 436
Oct 24 21:47:04 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Oct 24 21:47:21 <mircea_popescu>	man, nobody succeeds in timing the market.
Oct 24 21:48:13 <thestringpuller>	not in bitcoin world
Oct 24 21:48:18 <thestringpuller>	not as easy as AAPL
Oct 24 21:48:50 <thestringpuller>	there was a guy talking about buying puts on aapl today
Oct 24 21:49:09 <thestringpuller>	740 -> 640 in < 1 month
Oct 24 21:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	lemme dig
Oct 24 21:49:59 <thestringpuller>	not on irc
Oct 24 21:50:03 <thestringpuller>	on the tv
Oct 24 21:50:05 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 24 21:50:11 <thestringpuller>	Then i told chaang noi while you weren't here
Oct 24 21:50:12 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Oct 24 21:53:52 <thestringpuller>	so
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Oct 24 21:54:03 <thestringpuller>	jonathanDoe is flooding
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Oct 24 21:54:10 <thestringpuller>	JonathanDoe: stop flooding
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Oct 24 21:54:18 <Azelphur>	kakobreklaaa: ^
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Oct 24 21:54:21 <JonathanDoe>	fuck urself
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Oct 24 21:54:23 <JonathanDoe>	fuck urself
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Oct 24 21:54:26 <JonathanDoe>	fuck urself
Oct 24 21:54:26 <JonathanDoe>	fuck urself
Oct 24 21:54:27 <JonathanDoe>	fuck urself
Oct 24 21:54:28 <JonathanDoe>	fuck urself
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Oct 24 21:54:49 <thestringpuller>	are there any ops to ban him?
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Oct 24 21:55:04 <JonathanDoe>	maybe gcrackswell
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Oct 24 21:55:06 <JonathanDoe>	maybe gcrackswell
Oct 24 21:55:07 <JonathanDoe>	maybe gcrackswell
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Oct 24 21:55:09 <JonathanDoe>	and cunt-jr
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Oct 24 21:55:12 <JonathanDoe>	and cunt-jr
Oct 24 21:55:12 <JonathanDoe>	and cunt-jr
Oct 24 21:55:13 <JonathanDoe>	and cunt-jr
Oct 24 21:55:13 <JonathanDoe>	and cunt-jr
Oct 24 21:55:14 <JonathanDoe>	and cunt-jr
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Oct 24 21:55:19 <JonathanDoe>	fuckin pedophile and sister fucker
Oct 24 21:55:20 <JonathanDoe>	fuckin pedophile and sister fucker
Oct 24 21:55:21 <JonathanDoe>	fuckin pedophile and sister fucker
Oct 24 21:55:21 <JonathanDoe>	fuckin pedophile and sister fucker
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Oct 24 21:56:19 <pigeons>	wiw, maybe supadupa was right all along. we're too hard on him. he's just misunderstood.
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Oct 24 21:56:29 <thestringpuller>	are you mad about something or just bored?
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Oct 24 21:56:45 <SupaDupa>	I'm not Bi-Polar I'm Bi-Winning!
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Oct 24 21:56:47 <SupaDupa>	I'm not Bi-Polar I'm Bi-Winning!
Oct 24 21:56:48 <SupaDupa>	I'm not Bi-Polar I'm Bi-Winning!
Oct 24 21:56:48 <SupaDupa>	I'm not Bi-Polar I'm Bi-Winning!
Oct 24 21:56:49 <SupaDupa>	I'm not Bi-Polar I'm Bi-Winning!
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Oct 24 21:56:55 <SupaDupa>	and By-Winning!
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Oct 24 21:57:06 <SupaDupa>	I'm tired of pretending that my life is not WINNING!
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Oct 24 21:57:11 <SupaDupa>	every second of the day WINNING!
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Oct 24 21:57:14 <SupaDupa>	can't handle this losers
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Oct 24 21:57:18 <SupaDupa>	winning!
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Oct 24 21:57:25 <thestringpuller>	Sound's like you are a loser :)
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Oct 24 21:57:29 <SupaDupa>	buy bye!
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Oct 24 21:57:42 <SupaDupa>	buh*
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Oct 24 21:57:59 <SupaDupa>	hey gcrackswell
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Oct 24 21:58:03 <SupaDupa>	wsup faggot?
Oct 24 21:58:05 <SupaDupa>	hey gcrackswell
Oct 24 21:58:06 <SupaDupa>	wsup faggot?
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Oct 24 21:58:08 <SupaDupa>	hey gcrackswell
Oct 24 21:58:08 <SupaDupa>	wsup faggot?
Oct 24 21:58:09 <SupaDupa>	hey gcrackswell
Oct 24 21:58:10 <SupaDupa>	wsup faggot?
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Oct 24 21:58:12 <SupaDupa>	hey gcrackswell
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Oct 24 21:58:13 <SupaDupa>	wsup faggot?
Oct 24 21:58:15 <SupaDupa>	hey gcrackswell
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Oct 24 21:58:16 <SupaDupa>	wsup faggot?
Oct 24 21:58:17 <SupaDupa>	hey gcrackswell
Oct 24 21:58:18 <SupaDupa>	wsup faggot?
Oct 24 21:58:18 <SupaDupa>	hey gcrackswell
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Oct 24 21:58:21 <xisalty>	SupaDupa, pls stop
Oct 24 21:58:21 <SupaDupa>	wsup faggot?
Oct 24 21:58:21 <SupaDupa>	hey gcrackswell
Oct 24 21:58:23 <SupaDupa>	wsup faggot?
Oct 24 21:58:23 <SupaDupa>	hey gcrackswell
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Oct 24 21:58:24 <xisalty>	SupaDupa, pls stop
Oct 24 21:58:30 <Ssateneth>	LOL
Oct 24 21:58:31 <Azelphur>	haha
Oct 24 21:58:32 <Ssateneth>	flooded out
Oct 24 21:58:46 <gmaxwell>	he does that a lot too. Not even a very competent flooder. :(
Oct 24 21:58:54 <mod6>	haha
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Oct 24 21:59:32 <SupaDupa>	fuckin faggot...
Oct 24 21:59:40 <SupaDupa>	sister fucking fucking cunt
Oct 24 21:59:42 <xisalty>	Supa
Oct 24 21:59:46 <SupaDupa>	what?
Oct 24 21:59:46 <pigeons>	someone needs a hug
Oct 24 21:59:49 <xisalty>	this is why you cant get bitcoins
Oct 24 21:59:52 <SupaDupa>	I need 5 bitcoins
Oct 24 21:59:57 <xisalty>	be nice then
Oct 24 22:00:00 <SupaDupa>	everyone can suck my balls
Oct 24 22:00:05 <xisalty>	and maybe peope will trade
Oct 24 22:00:08 <SupaDupa>	besides xisalty
Oct 24 22:00:09 <SupaDupa>	and cyco
Oct 24 22:00:12 <SupaDupa>	and abbeytim
Oct 24 22:00:13 <gmaxwell>	Well technically you need a lot more than 5 BTC.
Oct 24 22:00:16 <SupaDupa>	and a few others
Oct 24 22:00:21 <xisalty>	pay back loans too
Oct 24 22:00:22 <SupaDupa>	stfu faggot
Oct 24 22:00:25 <SupaDupa>	no one is talking to you
Oct 24 22:00:33 <SupaDupa>	@gcrackswell
Oct 24 22:00:46 <xisalty>	^this behaivoiur
Oct 24 22:00:54 <xisalty>	plz stahp
Oct 24 22:00:58 <thestringpuller>	SupaDupa the loan defaulter
Oct 24 22:01:03 <SupaDupa>	ur mom
Oct 24 22:01:05 <thestringpuller>	pay back your loans dead beat
Oct 24 22:01:07 <thestringpuller>	get a job
Oct 24 22:01:07 <SupaDupa>	is a loan defaulted
Oct 24 22:01:07 <xisalty>	he paid back mine on default
Oct 24 22:01:09 <xisalty>	with extra
Oct 24 22:01:15 <SupaDupa>	I loaned her my balls she never gave back
Oct 24 22:01:26 <SupaDupa>	WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK I'M TRYING TO DO FAGGOT!
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Oct 24 22:01:39 <SupaDupa>	gtfo bitskankly
Oct 24 22:01:46 <SupaDupa>	ur food is shit
Oct 24 22:01:53 <SupaDupa>	and so is your husband
Oct 24 22:03:03 *	thestringpuller gets popcorn
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Oct 24 22:03:22 <thestringpuller>	I hope you're no older than 18
Oct 24 22:03:28 <SupaDupa>	I'm 25
Oct 24 22:03:29 <thestringpuller>	if so, society has really crumbled
Oct 24 22:03:30 <SupaDupa>	but it's ok
Oct 24 22:03:32 <SupaDupa>	I'm built good
Oct 24 22:03:35 <thestringpuller>	so you're a manchild
Oct 24 22:03:46 <SupaDupa>	ur mom is a manchild
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Oct 24 22:04:29 <thestringpuller>	a 25 year old with a 9 year old's mind
Oct 24 22:04:41 <SupaDupa>	I have an IQ of 186
Oct 24 22:04:54 <SupaDupa>	and I piss SQL and shit Source Code
Oct 24 22:05:00 <gmaxwell>	thestringpuller: good, thats the right technique, no words with more than 4 letters.
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Oct 24 22:05:33 <pigeons>	so clever. he joins and then leaves
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Oct 24 22:05:43 <Azelphur>	for someone that has such a high IQ he has so much problems getting money xD
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Oct 24 22:05:57 <thestringpuller>	he's homeless and bored
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Oct 24 22:05:59 <gmaxwell>	Azelphur: I think this is the IRC version of flinging poop.
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Oct 24 22:06:04 <thestringpuller>	probably logged in at some starbucks
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Oct 24 22:06:05 <Azelphur>	gmaxwell: indeed
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Oct 24 22:07:32 <Azelphur>	lol
Oct 24 22:07:35 <mod6>	where are the opz
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Oct 24 22:07:44 <gmaxwell>	interesting that xisalty vanished at the same time...
Oct 24 22:07:46 <thestringpuller>	call upon the freenode ops
Oct 24 22:07:49 <Azelphur>	for someone with a 186 iq he has a big problem understanding sendq
Oct 24 22:07:55 <thestringpuller>	sendq
Oct 24 22:07:56 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 24 22:07:59 <SupaDupa>	I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo!
Oct 24 22:08:00 <SupaDupa>	I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo!
Oct 24 22:08:00 <SupaDupa>	I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo!
Oct 24 22:08:00 <SupaDupa>	I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo!
Oct 24 22:08:00 <SupaDupa>	I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo!
Oct 24 22:08:00 <SupaDupa>	I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo!
Oct 24 22:08:00 <SupaDupa>	I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo!
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Oct 24 22:08:06 <copumpkin>	sigh
Oct 24 22:08:07 <copumpkin>	kakobreklaaa
Oct 24 22:08:09 <Azelphur>	yep, still has problems xD
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Oct 24 22:08:15 <gmaxwell>	Azelphur: IQ is relative to a population, the reference point for him is a chimp.
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Oct 24 22:08:21 <Azelphur>	gmaxwell: ah :)
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Oct 24 22:08:28 <gmaxwell>	:P mighty smart chimp!
Oct 24 22:08:28 <thestringpuller>	Why can't we have smart scammers
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Oct 24 22:08:33 <thestringpuller>	and smart criminals
Oct 24 22:08:37 <thestringpuller>	like pablo escobar
Oct 24 22:08:38 <copumpkin>	he's failing rather miserably at being a good spammer
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Oct 24 22:08:45 <gmaxwell>	thestringpuller: no natural selection for that.
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Oct 24 22:09:00 <Azelphur>	thestringpuller: isn't that pirateat40
Oct 24 22:09:10 <thestringpuller>	pirateat40 is going to jail for tax evasion
Oct 24 22:09:18 <Azelphur>	smart scammer
Oct 24 22:09:19 <Azelphur>	:P
Oct 24 22:09:22 <gmaxwell>	Azelphur: the guy with the totally transparent scam?  He said smart, not effective.. and thats the point.
Oct 24 22:09:29 <Azelphur>	lol
Oct 24 22:09:36 <Azelphur>	he's actually going to jail now?
Oct 24 22:09:48 <QuickBitcoins>	Crime against humanity. You all are aware right?
Oct 24 22:09:55 <SupaDupa>	Can't stop lending me coins and never gettin them back! All the the fuckin bitcoin noobs fists wrapped around my sack!
Oct 24 22:10:14 <thestringpuller>	You have no nuts.
Oct 24 22:10:21 <unicron>	thestringpuller: he is?  haha, i've been out of the loop
Oct 24 22:10:21 <QuickBitcoins>	Supa
Oct 24 22:10:21 <Azelphur>	lol
Oct 24 22:10:25 <QuickBitcoins>	Why are those coins gone in the first place?
Oct 24 22:10:34 <thestringpuller>	You were neutered as a child to prevent stupidity from running rampant in this world.
Oct 24 22:10:41 <SupaDupa>	Can't stop lending me coins and never gettin them back! All the the fuckin bitcoin noobs fists wrapped around my sack!
Oct 24 22:10:41 <SupaDupa>	Can't stop lending me coins and never gettin them back! All the the fuckin bitcoin noobs fists wrapped around my sack!
Oct 24 22:10:41 <SupaDupa>	Can't stop lending me coins and never gettin them back! All the the fuckin bitcoin noobs fists wrapped around my sack!
Oct 24 22:10:41 <SupaDupa>	Can't stop lending me coins and never gettin them back! All the the fuckin bitcoin noobs fists wrapped around my sack!
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Oct 24 22:10:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00043539 = 2.0899 BTC [+]
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Oct 24 22:11:00 <thestringpuller>	finally mpoe goes up
Oct 24 22:11:01 <QuickBitcoins>	Why are those coins gone in the first place? Supa?
Oct 24 22:11:08 <SupaDupa>	cause
Oct 24 22:11:11 <SupaDupa>	I didn't pay them back
Oct 24 22:11:13 <thestringpuller>	cause you're dumb
Oct 24 22:11:15 <SupaDupa>	and can't pay them back
Oct 24 22:11:16 <gmaxwell>	thestringpuller: they knew that all the girls go for a guy with explosive IRC flooding.
Oct 24 22:11:17 <thestringpuller>	and spent it on heroin
Oct 24 22:11:17 <QuickBitcoins>	Why did you have to spend them?
Oct 24 22:11:19 <SupaDupa>	and won't pay them back
Oct 24 22:11:38 <SupaDupa>	mmm heroin
Oct 24 22:11:41 <SupaDupa>	you know it dude
Oct 24 22:12:01 <SupaDupa>	http://supa.fii.me/BitcoinLoansNEW.txt
Oct 24 22:12:04 <pigeons>	SupaDupa: see a doctor, seriously
Oct 24 22:12:08 <SupaDupa>	http://supa.fii.me/BitcoinLoansOLD.txt
Oct 24 22:12:11 <SupaDupa>	already did
Oct 24 22:12:14 <SupaDupa>	doctor says I'm crazy
Oct 24 22:12:19 <SupaDupa>	gave me some happy bills and shit
Oct 24 22:12:37 <gmaxwell>	careful loading those links people.
Oct 24 22:12:44 <gmaxwell>	load via tor only.
Oct 24 22:12:53 <thestringpuller>	they don't resolve
Oct 24 22:13:01 <thestringpuller>	nslookup lol
Oct 24 22:13:08 <SupaDupa>	http://supa.fii.me/PayPalLoans.txt
Oct 24 22:13:21 <SupaDupa>	they resolve just fine cunt
Oct 24 22:13:24 <gmaxwell>	The name resolves.
Oct 24 22:13:30 <pigeons>	what about litecoin loans?
Oct 24 22:13:35 <SupaDupa>	http://supa.fii.me/LitecoinLoans.txt
Oct 24 22:13:39 <pigeons>	there
Oct 24 22:13:50 <thestringpuller>	why would anyone lend this guy money?
Oct 24 22:14:06 <thestringpuller>	was he a nice guy a long time ago in a galaxy far away?
Oct 24 22:14:33 <QuickBitcoins>	If he was
Oct 24 22:14:37 <QuickBitcoins>	Why wouldnt he be anymore?
Oct 24 22:15:14 <SupaDupa>	cause I'm CRAZYYYYY!
Oct 24 22:15:18 <SupaDupa>	Don't mind if I do!
Oct 24 22:15:42 <Azelphur>	he's probably just some kid that doesn't get enough attention so goes looking for it on IRC
Oct 24 22:15:45 <smickles>	EskimoBob: translation in pm
Oct 24 22:15:45 <Azelphur>	I feel sorry for him
Oct 24 22:15:54 <thestringpuller>	smickles!
Oct 24 22:15:59 <thestringpuller>	my all time favorite person
Oct 24 22:16:01 <smickles>	:D
Oct 24 22:16:51 <QuickBitcoins>	Keep it up guys
Oct 24 22:16:58 <QuickBitcoins>	You keep screwing with supa you wont see any of those loans
Oct 24 22:17:03 <QuickBitcoins>	Best not to poke the people that have your money
Oct 24 22:17:11 <thestringpuller>	just write it off and make more money
Oct 24 22:17:22 <thestringpuller>	there is such thing as an "acceptable loss"
Oct 24 22:18:03 <gmaxwell>	thestringpuller: because he's nice for ten minute spans of time, and evades the bans and not everone knows about this BS.
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Oct 24 22:20:38 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i threw an upvote at that reddit link
Oct 24 22:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	bah i ain' finding it.
Oct 24 22:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	smickles remember http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/finante-inalte-2/ ?
Oct 24 22:21:15 <SupaDupa>	$8.20 more paid off
Oct 24 22:21:19 <SupaDupa>	http://supa.fii.me/PayPalLoans.txt
Oct 24 22:23:00 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, some action here now... not what i expected, though it never is in btc land
Oct 24 22:24:10 <QuickBitcoins>	If I recall his girlfriend told him that they couldnt get their cat back unless he got away from his parents or something.
Oct 24 22:24:27 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: heh, that's a nice image in that article
Oct 24 22:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	:)
Oct 24 22:24:38 <QuickBitcoins>	So he spent people's money trying to get away from their abuse, but they followed him, so now he's apparently losing his shit.
Oct 24 22:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	trying to dig up an old post for to show thestringpuller but fuck me if i can find anything in my blog ;/
Oct 24 22:25:24 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: and now, for perspective, over 3/4 'cashed out' before glbse went down, and I still have 38 (or so) btc to distribute
Oct 24 22:25:40 <mircea_popescu>	teh stuff legends are made of
Oct 24 22:25:42 <noagendamarket>	* smickles is now known as FooDSt4mP
Oct 24 22:25:42 <noagendamarket>	* FooDSt4mP is now known as smickles  :O
Oct 24 22:25:47 <Azelphur>	smickles: what's that for, MPOE?
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Oct 24 22:25:51 <noagendamarket>	be careful :P
Oct 24 22:25:52 <smickles>	Azelphur: yeah
Oct 24 22:25:58 <Azelphur>	smickles: you got shareholder data?
Oct 24 22:26:14 <smickles>	noagendamarket: in the context of the time, it was a funny and easily understandable joke ;)
Oct 24 22:26:22 <noagendamarket>	:)
Oct 24 22:26:28 <mircea_popescu>	aaa found it. thestringpuller re AAPL etc : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/14744.html
Oct 24 22:27:01 <smickles>	Azelphur: not that I know of, i'll check for emails
Oct 24 22:27:25 <Azelphur>	smickles: ah, was just asking because you said you are distributing btc
Oct 24 22:28:04 <dub>	lol check mail
Oct 24 22:28:05 <smickles>	Azelphur: last email from glbse was on oct 14
Oct 24 22:28:14 <dub>	We regret to inform you that GPUMAX will be permanently closing
Oct 24 22:28:18 <dub>	well derp
Oct 24 22:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	old news ?
Oct 24 22:28:23 <smickles>	yeah
Oct 24 22:28:24 <Azelphur>	dub:old news is old
Oct 24 22:28:32 <Azelphur>	yea, I wish nefario would hurry up already
Oct 24 22:28:45 <dub>	yes well nefario is the only other person with this address
Oct 24 22:29:06 <smickles>	Azelphur: I think glbse confused you ;) they gave some btc back, so i have it to distribute, but no info to perform that action
Oct 24 22:29:07 <Azelphur>	my address is my hostname
Oct 24 22:29:10 *	Azelphur adorns his captain obvious hat
Oct 24 22:29:11 <dub>	not much need to check daily
Oct 24 22:29:22 <Azelphur>	smickles: ah, I see
Oct 24 22:29:27 <smickles>	I don't understand the delay at all
Oct 24 22:29:41 *	dub hopes Azelphur doesn't need a got fucking owned hat any time soon
Oct 24 22:29:42 <Azelphur>	me either
Oct 24 22:29:54 <Azelphur>	dub: indeed, at this rate it's sounding like I'll need one
Oct 24 22:30:18 <smickles>	here's a question, what do i do with the btc when nef doesn't ever give out shareholder info?
Oct 24 22:30:18 <Azelphur>	by pirate I'm down ~150, by GLBSE I'm (currently) down about 500, and clipse got me for ~50
Oct 24 22:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	clipse ?!
Oct 24 22:30:30 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: yep
Oct 24 22:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	fill me in
Oct 24 22:30:36 <dub>	im into clipse for ~30
Oct 24 22:30:41 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: he's scammer tagged now
Oct 24 22:30:44 <Azelphur>	he stole miner funds
Oct 24 22:30:48 <mircea_popescu>	how ?
Oct 24 22:30:55 <Azelphur>	by...not giving them to us
Oct 24 22:30:56 <Azelphur>	and leaving
Oct 24 22:30:56 <dub>	ran a pps+ 'mining pool' that turned out to probably have just been a PPT
Oct 24 22:31:06 <mircea_popescu>	dub yes ok, but.. no daily payout ?
Oct 24 22:31:11 <Azelphur>	the age old "Lol I've got your money goodbye" attack
Oct 24 22:31:20 <dub>	it was for a while, then problems its coming soon, then nothing
Oct 24 22:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	heh mk.
Oct 24 22:31:46 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: you friends with him / have his address? people want to go after him legally
Oct 24 22:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	i don't even know who he is
Oct 24 22:31:57 <Azelphur>	ah
Oct 24 22:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	(i'm not a miner so i'm a little out of that loop)
Oct 24 22:32:05 <Azelphur>	hehe
Oct 24 22:32:08 <smickles>	;;gpg info clipse
Oct 24 22:32:09 <gribble>	No such user registered.
Oct 24 22:32:13 <smickles>	:o
Oct 24 22:32:20 <Azelphur>	if GLBSE screws me as well, I'll be pretty bummed
Oct 24 22:32:28 <Azelphur>	because that'll be pretty much all my money gone \o/
Oct 24 22:32:38 <smickles>	:(
Oct 24 22:32:40 <mircea_popescu>	look on the bright side : you saved 20 btc on a mpex acct.
Oct 24 22:32:42 <Azelphur>	:( indeed
Oct 24 22:32:53 <Azelphur>	I have 20btc on mpex? o.O
Oct 24 22:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	no, i mean, by not getting one, you saved 20 btc.
Oct 24 22:33:18 <pigeons>	you didn't hear? glbse lost the rest of the funds and database to a chinese relic hunter who guessed their mtgox api key
Oct 24 22:33:22 <Azelphur>	I have a MPEx account xD
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Oct 24 22:33:26 <Azelphur>	but you gave me it for free in the early days
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Oct 24 22:34:01 <Azelphur>	I have 11465 satoshidice shares, \o/
Oct 24 22:34:03 <dub>	pigeons: its ok, if neafrio asks real nice he'll give it back
Oct 24 22:34:17 <Azelphur>	have they gone up much since the ipo?
Oct 24 22:34:35 <pigeons>	no but they pay dividends
Oct 24 22:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	Azelphur a ok!
Oct 24 22:34:53 <mircea_popescu>	forgot lol
Oct 24 22:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	nah, about the same
Oct 24 22:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 24 22:35:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00298639 / 0.0034 (2013520 shares, 6,013.16 BTC)
Oct 24 22:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	actually a little under
Oct 24 22:35:24 <Azelphur>	\o/
Oct 24 22:36:01 <Azelphur>	me and investments clearly wern't meant to mix
Oct 24 22:36:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31576 @ 0.00043313 = 13.6765 BTC [-]
Oct 24 22:39:07 <SupaDupa>	you guys all wear helmets
Oct 24 22:39:10 *	SupaDupa sighs
Oct 24 22:42:33 <noagendamarket>	hmm goat got banned from bitcointalk
Oct 24 22:42:46 <noagendamarket>	whats up with that ?
Oct 24 22:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Oct 24 22:44:23 <noagendamarket>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120102.0
Oct 24 22:44:33 <noagendamarket>	its a perma-ban
Oct 24 22:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	is this some sort of new policy ?
Oct 24 22:45:17 <pigeons>	when you threaten to sue theymos it is
Oct 24 22:45:35 <Azelphur>	why are we threatening to sue theymos?
Oct 24 22:45:40 <noagendamarket>	yeah dont threaten to sue theymos lol
Oct 24 22:45:52 <pigeons>	we're not. goat is because theymos was involved in glbse
Oct 24 22:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	odd tho, did he also ban my pr girl ?
Oct 24 22:46:07 <noagendamarket>	doubt it
Oct 24 22:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	well then wtf, she STARTED the give theymos a scammer tag thread
Oct 24 22:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	they banned rarity for posting in it ?
Oct 24 22:46:38 <pigeons>	sorry, even your girl isn't as trolly as goat
Oct 24 22:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	my girl isn't trolly at all
Oct 24 22:47:00 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 24 22:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	she just gets people's goat.
Oct 24 22:47:33 <noagendamarket>	notsureifserious
Oct 24 22:47:41 <pigeons>	or mircea_popescu
Oct 24 22:47:54 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 24 22:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	kinda weaksauce drama tho.
Oct 24 22:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, can we stoop to "why was x banned" level after the "omg, 6mn in bitcoins stoled" this august ?!
Oct 24 22:49:11 <Chaang-Noi>	i think i got banned cuz i told theymos he was wrong in telling people not to send back the double paymensts they got from nefario
Oct 24 22:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	did you threaten to sue ?
Oct 24 22:49:40 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not
Oct 24 22:49:53 <Chaang-Noi>	i said people had the options to sue glbse owner
Oct 24 22:50:01 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos thinks he is protected, but he is not
Oct 24 22:50:09 <Chaang-Noi>	well had had atleast...
Oct 24 22:50:18 <Chaang-Noi>	he said it was unfair he is liable for nefarios actions
Oct 24 22:50:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i also questioned that since nefario had over 50% of the vote why he could not shut down glbse
Oct 24 22:50:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i think theymos has gone a bit crazy with the scammer tag/bann hammer abuse cuz of his stress with glbse
Oct 24 22:51:00 <Chaang-Noi>	he i acting like nefario lol
Oct 24 22:51:04 <Chaang-Noi>	is*
Oct 24 22:51:04 <noagendamarket>	technically Magical Tux is allowing unlicensed securities to be promoted on his forum.
Oct 24 22:51:29 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i paid for advertising there
Oct 24 22:51:32 <Azelphur>	why would you tell people not to return the double payments?
Oct 24 22:51:33 <Chaang-Noi>	for them
Oct 24 22:51:47 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not, THEYMOS told people not to return double payments
Oct 24 22:51:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i said theymos was wrong
Oct 24 22:51:54 <Azelphur>	oh, wow
Oct 24 22:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	ya but why ?
Oct 24 22:51:57 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 24 22:51:59 <Azelphur>	yea, theymos is getting really odd
Oct 24 22:52:02 <noagendamarket>	yeah theymos told people not to return payments
Oct 24 22:52:04 <Chaang-Noi>	then i get perma banned
Oct 24 22:52:17 <Chaang-Noi>	really theymos can fuck himself
Oct 24 22:52:21 <Azelphur>	and marked as a scammer?
Oct 24 22:52:27 <Chaang-Noi>	he is trying to make the glbse situation drag out
Oct 24 22:52:32 <Chaang-Noi>	im not a scammer
Oct 24 22:52:34 <Chaang-Noi>	no scammer tag
Oct 24 22:52:36 <Azelphur>	ah
Oct 24 22:52:39 <Chaang-Noi>	just perrma banned
Oct 24 22:52:47 <Chaang-Noi>	no warning or explination
Oct 24 22:52:56 <Azelphur>	fun
Oct 24 22:53:07 <Chaang-Noi>	seems you can do anything on that forum other than tell theymos when he fucked up
Oct 24 22:53:11 <Chaang-Noi>	oh well
Oct 24 22:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	this theory suffers of the fact that they've not banned my girl.
Oct 24 22:53:47 <Azelphur>	I'm starting to notice in the bitcoin community there so many people who think they are immune to the law
Oct 24 22:54:00 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 24 22:54:32 <noagendamarket>	well...the police dont even investigate if your house gets burgled why would they care if your bitcoins get stolen ?
Oct 24 22:54:44 <Chaang-Noi>	there are differnt levels of police
Oct 24 22:54:49 <Chaang-Noi>	the SEC does care
Oct 24 22:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	depends where. here they investigate.
Oct 24 22:54:53 <noagendamarket>	not really lol
Oct 24 22:54:55 <Azelphur>	noagendamarket: you can bet they will start caring about unlicensed securities
Oct 24 22:55:32 <noagendamarket>	unlicensed securities, tax avoidance and money laundering yes
Oct 24 22:55:41 <Azelphur>	yea
Oct 24 22:55:48 <Azelphur>	that leaked shareholder info was ridiculous
Oct 24 22:56:00 <dub>	noagendamarket: I got burgled a couple years back, the dude then tried to fraud my bank using a debit card in mail I'd never opened
Oct 24 22:56:10 <noagendamarket>	:O
Oct 24 22:56:18 <Chaang-Noi>	leaked shareholder info?
Oct 24 22:56:24 <Chaang-Noi>	on glbse or glbse assets?
Oct 24 22:56:30 <smickles>	why is it that EVE and secondlive companies get a pass
Oct 24 22:56:36 <smickles>	(from the sec)
Oct 24 22:56:39 <Azelphur>	Chaang-Noi: I mean the meeting, sorry for being unclear
Oct 24 22:56:49 <noagendamarket>	smickles because they dont exist physically
Oct 24 22:56:58 <dub>	noagendamarket: bank calls me out of the blue 'mr x your card replacement card is with a courier it will be iwth you shortly', I go 'oh good please confirm the address',, call cops with current location of burglar. carefactor 0
Oct 24 22:57:04 <Azelphur>	we don't exist physically?
Oct 24 22:57:08 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh, i loled when that guy posted that meeting on the forum, i think thats why i got perma banned to, cuz i read it and said how week it made them all look.
Oct 24 22:57:38 <dub>	noagendamarket: they called me back 6 weeks later
Oct 24 22:57:39 <Azelphur>	Chaang-Noi: xD
Oct 24 22:57:47 <smickles>	noagendamarket: that doesn't make much sense, the people running them exist physically
Oct 24 22:58:12 <smickles>	and if it's 'physicality' that is the bar, s2cm and mpoe.etf were gold
Oct 24 22:58:16 <noagendamarket>	yeah but second life isnt going to affect tyhe central bankers lol
Oct 24 22:58:17 <Chaang-Noi>	not if they are female smickles :)
Oct 24 22:58:33 <pigeons>	1. they are simulations and games. 2. the amounts of value are relatively small
Oct 24 22:58:42 <Azelphur>	I know a guy who sold his house, put the money in his bank, and when he presented his passport to the bank to show ID for a large deposit, they took it and scanned it. Later someone walked in complete with a fake passport and cleaned out his account for £150k iirc
Oct 24 22:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	2 can never be a point pigeons.
Oct 24 22:58:52 <noagendamarket>	julian assange didnt get charges untill wikileaks embarrassed the bankers
Oct 24 22:58:53 <pigeons>	it is always a point mircea_popescu
Oct 24 22:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	show me a law that says it's ok to steal as long as you don't steal a lot.
Oct 24 22:59:11 <Azelphur>	He was lucky, he went to make a cash withdrawal and his account balance was zero and the bank was able to stop the transaction before it left the country, he got all his money back
Oct 24 22:59:11 <pigeons>	the whole law on whether you are a msb in usa for example is if you are under X a day
Oct 24 22:59:20 <Azelphur>	was apparently about an hour away from leaving the country
Oct 24 22:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	o, we're talking usa again ?
Oct 24 22:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	what's with this obsession.
Oct 24 22:59:32 *	thestringpuller starts singing My Girl
Oct 24 22:59:36 <pigeons>	we aren't talking about stealing, we are talking about your papers please
Oct 24 22:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Oct 24 23:00:38 <noagendamarket>	technically its not stealing when you hand your cash over to someonbe voluntarily
Oct 24 23:00:48 <copumpkin>	just fraud
Oct 24 23:00:51 <pigeons>	well im not talking about fraud either
Oct 24 23:00:52 <noagendamarket>	yes
Oct 24 23:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	im sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but contrary to the widely held belief in conspiratist circles, enforcement of the various financial regulations is traditionally very softgloved.
Oct 24 23:01:11 <copumpkin>	[22:59:37] <pigeons> papers please
Oct 24 23:01:13 <copumpkin>	OMG FASCIST
Oct 24 23:01:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8429 @ 0.00043539 = 3.6699 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:01:26 <thestringpuller>	YES
Oct 24 23:01:33 <thestringpuller>	go up
Oct 24 23:01:34 <copumpkin>	NAZI SOCIALIST COMMUNIST
Oct 24 23:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol mpoe has a fan
Oct 24 23:01:53 <copumpkin>	don't leave it on overnight
Oct 24 23:01:54 <copumpkin>	you might die
Oct 24 23:02:00 <smickles>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 24 23:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00298639 / 0.0034 (2013520 shares, 6,013.16 BTC)
Oct 24 23:02:03 <Azelphur>	If I was nefario and my lawyer told me that it was time to shut down or face possible jail time, I'd be shutting down too
Oct 24 23:02:05 <noagendamarket>	why are we arguing about it ewhen they are about to start flying 30 000 drones over the citizens lol
Oct 24 23:02:13 <Chaang-Noi>	lol at fan joke :)
Oct 24 23:02:33 *	thestringpuller puts his lighter in the air
Oct 24 23:02:38 *	copumpkin is in the wrong line of work! he should be a comedian
Oct 24 23:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin that korea thing ?
Oct 24 23:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	insanity.
Oct 24 23:02:55 <copumpkin>	oppan gangnam style
Oct 24 23:02:58 <copumpkin>	but yeah
Oct 24 23:03:02 <noagendamarket>	Azelphur there is no proof he even spoke to one lol
Oct 24 23:03:15 <noagendamarket>	inb4 tinfoil hat
Oct 24 23:03:29 <Azelphur>	noagendamarket: indeed, but it's fairly obvious that he did
Oct 24 23:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	no but think about it. ask any lawyer if it is "advisable" to drive your car
Oct 24 23:03:45 <noagendamarket>	its fairly obvious he is super fucking paranoid
Oct 24 23:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	he'll tell you that well... you face possible jail time and ideally you should not drive your car
Oct 24 23:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	WHICH IS TRUE
Oct 24 23:04:00 *	tbcoin has quit (Quit: Leaving...)
Oct 24 23:04:23 <noagendamarket>	also he's lazy and cbf dealing with it anymore.
Oct 24 23:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	people somehow irresponsibly don't seem to retain a lawyer to ask this.
Oct 24 23:04:35 <pigeons>	the problem isnt that he shut down, the main problem is that he did it without returning accounting to asset holders or even all the funds, and that he dicked around with his shoe on head picture bullshit
Oct 24 23:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons the problem is that he lied.
Oct 24 23:05:03 <pigeons>	?
Oct 24 23:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	this culture of lieing (about pretty much everything) is the fucking problem.
Oct 24 23:05:20 <Diablo-D3>	I agree
Oct 24 23:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	he lied about talking to a lawyer. he lied about even having wtf any clue whatsoever what he's doing.
Oct 24 23:05:30 <pigeons>	the problem is that he didn't return asset lists or money
Oct 24 23:05:37 <Diablo-D3>	no, the problem is he lied
Oct 24 23:05:41 <mircea_popescu>	it is just a string of lies all the way through. review his fucking videos at that ridiculous conference nobody went to.
Oct 24 23:05:42 <Diablo-D3>	glbse was never legal
Oct 24 23:05:50 <copumpkin>	wait
Oct 24 23:05:56 <copumpkin>	he posted a pic of himself with a shoe on his head?
Oct 24 23:05:57 <smickles>	glbse was just an elaborate fundraiser for nefario's sexchange operation and therapist fees
Oct 24 23:05:57 <Diablo-D3>	and he said it was to get asset issuers
Oct 24 23:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much all the guy does is lies and somehow this has become "the norm".
Oct 24 23:06:04 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: I never lie!
Oct 24 23:06:06 <copumpkin>	>_>
Oct 24 23:06:12 <pigeons>	lieing sucks, but he needs to give people their bitcoins back and the asset issuers information about their assets
Oct 24 23:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	look at the wannabe entrepreneurs in the forum : THEY ALL LIE
Oct 24 23:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin ya but you also never say much.
Oct 24 23:06:24 <copumpkin>	:(
Oct 24 23:06:30 <copumpkin>	you think I say meaningless shit
Oct 24 23:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	start a btc-corp, get back to me, then it'd be useful.
Oct 24 23:06:35 <copumpkin>	(I think I say meaningless shit)
Oct 24 23:06:36 <pigeons>	you lied about pirate's sister, liar!
Oct 24 23:06:40 <copumpkin>	lol
Oct 24 23:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	him or me ?
Oct 24 23:06:48 <copumpkin>	me
Oct 24 23:06:52 <copumpkin>	I'm famous for it
Oct 24 23:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	you fucked her too ?!
Oct 24 23:06:56 <copumpkin>	yeah
Oct 24 23:06:59 <mircea_popescu>	asshole
Oct 24 23:07:02 <noagendamarket>	genjix and nefario are working in tandem
Oct 24 23:07:03 <copumpkin>	someone brought it up recently again on the forum
Oct 24 23:07:09 <copumpkin>	as an example of maged abusing his power as a mod
Oct 24 23:07:10 <pigeons>	maged was gonna give him a scameer tag for saying he fucked pirate's sister
Oct 24 23:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	agagagaa
Oct 24 23:07:20 <Diablo-D3>	was she hot?
Oct 24 23:07:23 <copumpkin>	that's why I quit the forum :P
Oct 24 23:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	and hashking for falsely claiming he's 15 ?
Oct 24 23:07:26 <noagendamarket>	lol
Oct 24 23:07:34 <pigeons>	he doesn't have a sister i think
Oct 24 23:07:39 <mircea_popescu>	sure he does
Oct 24 23:07:43 <Diablo-D3>	so it was just pirate in drag?
Oct 24 23:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	sure de hoes*
Oct 24 23:08:01 <noagendamarket>	bahhaha
Oct 24 23:08:06 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: do you know house of gord?
Oct 24 23:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	nope ?
Oct 24 23:08:33 <copumpkin>	ah
Oct 24 23:08:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/adolescenta-si-clitoris.gif random pic of the day
Oct 24 23:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	with animation!
Oct 24 23:09:06 <smickles>	copumpkin: http://static.neatorama.com/images/2007-10/pumpkin-house-steve-miller.jpg
Oct 24 23:09:11 <smickles>	house of gord
Oct 24 23:09:19 <mircea_popescu>	hahah
Oct 24 23:09:26 <smickles>	*gourd
Oct 24 23:09:26 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: http://www.markydsade.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gord1_500x333.jpg
Oct 24 23:09:36 <Chaang-Noi>	badbear brought up the sister thing when attacking maged
Oct 24 23:09:37 *	copumpkin smacks smickles 
Oct 24 23:09:47 <Chaang-Noi>	it was lols globol mod on global mod action
Oct 24 23:09:49 <noagendamarket>	the fuck
Oct 24 23:09:59 <copumpkin>	http://alterpic.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/invertedtruck-143.jpg
Oct 24 23:10:01 <Chaang-Noi>	now maged is upset at theymos for not talking about or warning maged i was banned, not sure why
Oct 24 23:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	o i c. femsploitation!
Oct 24 23:10:04 <thestringpuller>	that was the most random picture ever
Oct 24 23:10:06 <smickles>	copumpkin: yeah, i know, this ( http://waynesword.palomar.edu/images/pgourd3b.jpg ) is really the house of gourd
Oct 24 23:10:09 <copumpkin>	HE IS GORD
Oct 24 23:10:11 <thestringpuller>	so she's fingering herself
Oct 24 23:10:17 <thestringpuller>	then sniffing it?
Oct 24 23:10:23 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller something like that
Oct 24 23:10:26 *	copumpkin smacks smickles again
Oct 24 23:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	maybe was just checking the temperature who knows
Oct 24 23:10:46 <thestringpuller>	i wish I had girls like that in my classes
Oct 24 23:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	you do.
Oct 24 23:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	"that" is how girls are.
Oct 24 23:11:14 <copumpkin>	http://media.gordstore.com/media/items/0830/MG-100-347a_t.jpg http://media.gordstore.com/media/items/0510/MY-01-054_t.jpg
Oct 24 23:11:17 <smickles>	lol, what is this http://www.houseofgord.com/nav/pornopolice.png
Oct 24 23:11:22 <copumpkin>	he's pretty famous
Oct 24 23:11:35 <SupaDupa>	QuickBitcoins = scam
Oct 24 23:11:41 <copumpkin>	SupaDupa: no
Oct 24 23:11:46 <SupaDupa>	I challenged him to fuckin make a p2p
Oct 24 23:11:48 <SupaDupa>	decentralized
Oct 24 23:11:51 <SupaDupa>	market
Oct 24 23:11:54 <SupaDupa>	he could not do so
Oct 24 23:11:57 <copumpkin>	lol
Oct 24 23:12:01 <SupaDupa>	tells me I'm fuckinw ithhim
Oct 24 23:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	that's ciuciu's new venture
Oct 24 23:12:06 <SupaDupa>	I said I'll do it myself then good bye athero
Oct 24 23:12:10 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: the womanchariot?
Oct 24 23:12:10 <pigeons>	i challenge you to SupaDupa
Oct 24 23:12:13 <SupaDupa>	aethero*
Oct 24 23:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	no, pornopolice
Oct 24 23:12:20 <SupaDupa>	challenge mother fuckin accepted
Oct 24 23:12:21 <copumpkin>	oh
Oct 24 23:12:27 <SupaDupa>	P2P Exchange here I come :D
Oct 24 23:12:30 <copumpkin>	I bet ciuciu secretly rides chariots of women
Oct 24 23:12:35 <copumpkin>	perhaps he even has binders of them
Oct 24 23:12:35 <pigeons>	nice
Oct 24 23:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	i bet he secretly rides chariots of mcdo garbage
Oct 24 23:13:22 <copumpkin>	EskimoBob also likes chariots of women
Oct 24 23:13:38 <copumpkin>	or gord's weird vehicle attachments
Oct 24 23:14:14 <pigeons>	i used to date a hood ornament
Oct 24 23:14:19 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 24 23:14:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.56112, Best ask: 11.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03888, Last trade: 11.60001, 24 hour volume: 21461.38961651, 24 hour low: 11.55000, 24 hour high: 11.79000, 24 hour vwap: 11.66320
Oct 24 23:14:24 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 24 23:14:26 <gribble>	11.62
Oct 24 23:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	unrelatedly : is anything funnier than the fact that uk's chief justice lord is an honorable judge by the name judge ?
Oct 24 23:14:37 <copumpkin>	pigeons: oh nice
Oct 24 23:14:46 <copumpkin>	is that like major major?
Oct 24 23:14:58 <copumpkin>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Major_Major_Major
Oct 24 23:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	ya but that's fictional
Oct 24 23:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	also, this guy is actually igor judge baron judge lord chief justice & queen's counsel
Oct 24 23:16:51 <smickles>	buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo
Oct 24 23:16:57 <smickles>	.
Oct 24 23:17:16 <pigeons>	biggie smalls biggie smalls biggie smalls
Oct 24 23:17:23 *	sgornick has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
Oct 24 23:17:47 <smickles>	the space between dick and and, and and and harry is too small
Oct 24 23:19:37 <copumpkin>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwrotPF3Ak0
Oct 24 23:20:07 <Chaang-Noi>	igor?
Oct 24 23:20:11 *	tbcoin (~tbcoin@81.61.86.183.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Oct 24 23:20:52 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67185.msg1210059#msg1210059 kinda interesting graphs actually
Oct 24 23:20:53 <smickles>	that looks like a guy having fun
Oct 24 23:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	via sgornick
Oct 24 23:22:03 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: these are better http://bitcoinx.com/charts/
Oct 24 23:22:14 <Azelphur>	SupaDupa: I challenge you to act like an adult for 24 hours
Oct 24 23:22:17 <smickles>	and they have the same sort of info
Oct 24 23:22:29 <SupaDupa>	challenge accepted
Oct 24 23:22:31 <SupaDupa>	fuck your mom!
Oct 24 23:22:32 <Azelphur>	:)
Oct 24 23:22:33 <SupaDupa>	ahh damn
Oct 24 23:22:34 <SupaDupa>	xD
Oct 24 23:22:35 <Azelphur>	challenge failed
Oct 24 23:22:38 <SupaDupa>	hahahha
Oct 24 23:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	o hyes
Oct 24 23:23:05 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like a tl;dr mpoe-pr summary service for the public ?!
Oct 24 23:23:10 <Azelphur>	Anyone know how to find out your bitcoinmax balance? I pinged payb.tc but he isn't replying and his site is broke :<
Oct 24 23:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	A North Korean army minister was reportedly executed with a mortar round for allegedly drinking and carousing during the official mourning period following leader Kim Jong-il's death.
Oct 24 23:24:08 <Azelphur>	YOU WILL MOURN, or else.
Oct 24 23:25:31 <Azelphur>	Chaang-Noi: maybe you can shed some light on ^ :P
Oct 24 23:25:38 *	Azelphur just wants to know how much he lost D:
Oct 24 23:26:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know anything about n korea
Oct 24 23:26:08 <Azelphur>	Chaang-Noi: above that :P
Oct 24 23:26:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00043539 = 1.4803 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:26:38 <mircea_popescu>	You're welcome.
Oct 24 23:26:38 <mircea_popescu>	Thanks for staying away from my services.
Oct 24 23:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	I'm really trying hard to make this project completely different from all the other shit holes, like i.e. GLBSE used to be.
Oct 24 23:26:39 <Chaang-Noi>	about payb.tc or supadupa?
Oct 24 23:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	apparently the girl left some scars in the adolescent imagination.
Oct 24 23:26:50 <Azelphur>	Chaang-Noi: payb.tc
Oct 24 23:26:54 <Chaang-Noi>	you think glbse got better MP?
Oct 24 23:27:04 <SupaDupa>	hahha Goat you got banned from Bitcoin Talk
Oct 24 23:27:07 <SupaDupa>	fail dude fail...
Oct 24 23:27:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i know nothing about payb.tc other than he is not wanting to work with the sec or the kill pirate mob
Oct 24 23:27:29 <smickles>	executed via mortar?
Oct 24 23:27:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i think if you had payb.tc you now haz 0 btc
Oct 24 23:27:43 <Chaang-Noi>	just like all the other people who gave coin to pirate
Oct 24 23:27:48 <Azelphur>	indeed
Oct 24 23:27:59 <Chaang-Noi>	supadupa perma banned!
Oct 24 23:27:59 *	gmaxwell (~greg@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001) has left #bitcoin-assets
Oct 24 23:28:02 <Azelphur>	was just curious how much I lost, but he isn't responding to forum pm's and his sites login is broke
Oct 24 23:28:03 <Azelphur>	:<
Oct 24 23:28:05 <SupaDupa>	haha
Oct 24 23:28:08 <SupaDupa>	join the club bro
Oct 24 23:28:09 <SupaDupa>	xD
Oct 24 23:28:27 <mircea_popescu>	great lol
Oct 24 23:28:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think payb.tc will be back
Oct 24 23:28:35 <Chaang-Noi>	you have his real life docs right?
Oct 24 23:28:52 <Chaang-Noi>	just call him up
Oct 24 23:29:02 <Azelphur>	I don't D:
Oct 24 23:29:13 <pigeons>	bah, who gives bitcoins to people they actually know?
Oct 24 23:29:20 <Azelphur>	guess I will have to piece it together from my bitcoin wallet history
Oct 24 23:29:39 <SupaDupa>	Goat
Oct 24 23:29:50 <SupaDupa>	could I buy a bitcoin off you man?
Oct 24 23:29:54 <SupaDupa>	you accept PayPal?
Oct 24 23:30:06 <SupaDupa>	just 1 bitcoin paying off my paypal loans too :D
Oct 24 23:30:07 <smickles>	 /g 3
Oct 24 23:30:36 <Azelphur>	SupaDupa: Suggestion, if you want to repay your loans, why don't you just repay them in USD? I'm sure people would be willing to accept that, and you have it
Oct 24 23:30:47 <Ssateneth>	^
Oct 24 23:30:47 <SupaDupa>	trying to ask
Oct 24 23:30:52 <SupaDupa>	if people will accept that
Oct 24 23:30:58 <SupaDupa>	alot of people don't accept it unfortunately :(
Oct 24 23:31:02 <Chaang-Noi>	lol i dont use paypal
Oct 24 23:31:03 <Ssateneth>	of COURSE people will accept CASH
Oct 24 23:31:08 <SupaDupa>	didn't think so
Oct 24 23:31:14 <Ssateneth>	If someone doesn't accept cash, they are an IDIOT
Oct 24 23:31:41 <Ssateneth>	I accept cash. I just don't send goods until I have cash in hand.
Oct 24 23:31:58 <pigeons>	paypal isn't cash, maybe not everyone supa borrowed from even uses usd, the deal was for btc, maybe they want btc
Oct 24 23:32:18 <Ssateneth>	He can buy bitcoins with cash though
Oct 24 23:33:10 <pigeons>	he doesn't have cash, he has paypal
Oct 24 23:33:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6346 @ 0.00043539 = 2.763 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41400 @ 0.00043546 = 18.028 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56400 @ 0.00043748 = 24.6739 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56241 @ 0.00043789 = 24.6274 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12626 @ 0.00043858 = 5.5375 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:18 <Ssateneth>	Or better yet, he can pay a bitcoin seller with cash and the bitcoin seller sends bitcoins to the person that supa owes btc/money to
Oct 24 23:33:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53038 @ 0.00043867 = 23.2662 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	so he can't change pp to btc ?!
Oct 24 23:33:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00043885 = 6.8899 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00043903 = 10.0977 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43800 @ 0.00044 = 19.272 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00044037 = 13.5634 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00044043 = 4.052 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00044052 = 16.0349 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6780 @ 0.00044092 = 2.9894 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00044104 = 17.5975 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.00044158 = 13.4682 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00044171 = 9.6734 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	o hallo
Oct 24 23:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48489 @ 0.00044179 = 21.422 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00044191 = 4.9494 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11478 @ 0.0004424 = 5.0779 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26323 @ 0.00044242 = 11.6458 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54800 @ 0.00044246 = 24.2468 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00044248 = 7.6992 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00044251 = 6.6377 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00044258 = 11.1973 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00044275 = 13.9466 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00044277 = 1.9039 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53166 @ 0.00044286 = 23.5451 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00044291 = 10.2755 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00044286 = 18.2901 BTC [-]
Oct 24 23:33:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53800 @ 0.00044332 = 23.8506 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1791 @ 0.00044379 = 0.7948 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:42 <thestringpuller>	Time to sell!
Oct 24 23:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2162 @ 0.00044389 = 0.9597 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:43 <Ssateneth>	whats s.mpoe
Oct 24 23:33:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00044487 = 9.6092 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00044497 = 14.5505 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40460 @ 0.00044568 = 18.0322 BTC [+]
Oct 24 23:33:50 <thestringpuller>	YES
Oct 24 23:33:57 <thestringpuller>	today has been a good day
Oct 24 23:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	Ssateneth mpex + mpoe
Oct 24 23:34:05 <Ssateneth>	no idea what that is
Oct 24 23:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	mpex is the btc stock exchange
Oct 24 23:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe is the options bot.
Oct 24 23:34:24 <Ssateneth>	lolwat?
Oct 24 23:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	you new ?
Oct 24 23:34:31 <pigeons>	Ssateneth: see topic
Oct 24 23:35:03 <Ssateneth>	I only joined here to see supa spamming
Oct 24 23:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118700.0 lol this is funnay
Oct 24 23:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	o.o that's a first. you joined to see someone's spam ?!
Oct 24 23:37:10 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah lol
Oct 24 23:37:12 <pigeons>	shame the goatse stopped
Oct 24 23:37:13 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102010.msg1290358#msg1290358 ahahaha
Oct 24 23:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	why do people stereotype so!
Oct 24 23:38:58 <thestringpuller>	cause the girl is mean
Oct 24 23:39:00 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 24 23:39:18 <Chaang-Noi>	she saw i was banned and has changed her ways:)
Oct 24 23:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	good girls are always mean
Oct 24 23:40:11 <thestringpuller>	or awkward
Oct 24 23:41:43 <thestringpuller>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/adolescenta-si-clitoris.gif - best pic of the day still
Oct 24 23:41:46 <thestringpuller>	well gif
Oct 24 23:43:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGOHE1zqEmY << this is pretty good too
Oct 24 23:46:16 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHAH
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Oct 24 23:47:10 <thestringpuller>	did he ever get the toy car out?
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Oct 24 23:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	prolly
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Oct 24 23:57:58 <SupaDupa>	can someone sell me 0.5 bitcoin please?
Oct 24 23:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8273 @ 0.00043481 = 3.5972 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 00:19:46 <Chaang-Noi>	SupaDupa ill trade btc for ltc or ppcoin
Oct 25 00:19:59 <thestringpuller>	scamcoin
Oct 25 00:20:00 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 25 00:20:10 <Chaang-Noi>	its better than paypal
Oct 25 00:20:15 <Chaang-Noi>	just trying to help a guy out
Oct 25 00:23:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 25 00:24:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00043313 = 1.2128 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 00:38:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48527 @ 0.00043343 = 21.0331 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00044 = 24.596 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00044183 = 14.9339 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.000445 = 0.445 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2822 @ 0.00044551 = 1.2572 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8840 @ 0.00044568 = 3.9398 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00044583 = 4.0125 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00044608 = 14.676 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00044637 = 7.3205 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18274 @ 0.00044695 = 8.1676 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.00044763 = 15.3985 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00044784 = 10.166 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28094 @ 0.00044854 = 12.6013 BTC [+]
Oct 25 00:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7343 @ 0.00044889 = 3.2962 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 01:04:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9378 @ 0.00044391 = 4.163 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 01:29:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33300 @ 0.0004375 = 14.5688 BTC [-]
Oct 25 01:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12327 @ 0.00043718 = 5.3891 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 01:55:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1319 @ 0.00044391 = 0.5855 BTC [+]
Oct 25 01:55:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00044742 = 7.0692 BTC [+]
Oct 25 01:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1181 @ 0.00044859 = 0.5298 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 02:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00044034 = 10.2159 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 02:37:56 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Oct 25 02:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00043264 / 0.00043847 / 0.00044889 (2489462 shares, 1,091.56 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00037304 / 0.00046059 (88084649 shares, 32,859.95 BTC)
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Oct 25 02:45:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00044186 = 10.4721 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 03:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00044644 = 4.2858 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 03:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00044034 = 6.429 BTC [-]
Oct 25 03:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00043718 = 6.7326 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 03:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/120zdj/gpg_contracts_vs_traditional_contracts_law/c6reke8 someone should point out the WOT to this guy
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Oct 25 04:01:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16873 @ 0.00043718 = 7.3765 BTC [-]
Oct 25 04:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11227 @ 0.00043657 = 4.9014 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 04:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.00044172 = 17.0504 BTC [+]
Oct 25 04:26:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2938 @ 0.00044753 = 1.3148 BTC [+]
Oct 25 04:27:41 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: you can do it
Oct 25 04:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	do what ?
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Oct 25 04:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, gmaxwell "wants to reconsider my involvement with bitcoin." ?! best news of the fucking month.
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Oct 25 04:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8562 @ 0.00044753 = 3.8318 BTC [+]
Oct 25 04:52:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6295 @ 0.00044776 = 2.8186 BTC [+]
Oct 25 04:52:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5019 @ 0.00044859 = 2.2515 BTC [+]
Oct 25 04:52:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26505 @ 0.00044881 = 11.8957 BTC [+]
Oct 25 04:52:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1819 @ 0.00044889 = 0.8165 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 05:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2328 @ 0.000445 = 1.036 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 05:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00044576 = 5.1262 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 06:10:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.0004454 = 9.487 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 06:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15364 @ 0.0004454 = 6.8431 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 07:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00044576 = 9.4055 BTC [+]
Oct 25 07:04:47 <EskimoBob>	midnightmagic: "....someone should point out the WOT to this guy"
Oct 25 07:05:17 <EskimoBob>	that was for mircea
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Oct 25 07:23:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	!ticker
Oct 25 07:23:24 <assbot>	Provide ticker.
Oct 25 07:26:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6796 @ 0.0004454 = 3.0269 BTC [-]
Oct 25 07:26:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4554 @ 0.000445 = 2.0265 BTC [-]
Oct 25 07:26:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6909 @ 0.00044493 = 3.074 BTC [-]
Oct 25 07:26:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00044479 = 8.1841 BTC [-]
Oct 25 07:26:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6931 @ 0.00044339 = 3.0731 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 07:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12227 @ 0.00044339 = 5.4213 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 08:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27329 @ 0.00044004 = 12.0259 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 08:31:35 <thestringpuller>	Hmmm
Oct 25 08:32:01 <thestringpuller>	looks like its the right time to start doing puts @ 11
Oct 25 08:32:51 <gigavps>	we'll probably see 7s again soon
Oct 25 08:33:04 <thestringpuller>	really?
Oct 25 08:33:07 <thestringpuller>	is the damage that deep?
Oct 25 08:33:17 <thestringpuller>	august/september were just bubbles?
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Oct 25 08:33:41 <gigavps>	i wouldn't think about it as damage
Oct 25 08:34:16 <gigavps>	the market just doesn't have enough ppl acting on the price to keep it from having big swings
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Oct 25 08:41:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00044576 = 0.2675 BTC [+]
Oct 25 08:41:55 <thestringpuller>	I feel like i should be makings puts @ 11
Oct 25 08:45:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: The article does not discuss "race". That's your own contribution. More generally, it's quite clear reading it that it follows a cultural rather than physical anthropology vein, and so your racial preoccupation is wholly misplaced.
Oct 25 08:45:48 <thestringpuller>	The article does not discuss inferiority, that is again your very own contribution. (It does discuss difference, obviously, but that's something else).
Oct 25 08:45:51 <thestringpuller>	He places the downfall of native american tribes on the fact that they were too "confused" to really understand ownership and thus got owned due to their backwardsness. The reason why most native tribes did not have free-hold land ownership treaties was because
Oct 25 08:45:55 <thestringpuller>	Makes no difference what follows that "because." Did you do your homework ? No you didn't because. F. Next time, do your homework.
Oct 25 08:45:58 <thestringpuller>	More generally, it is not okay to run around calling "retardedness" anything that doesn't jive with whatever little you groked of the ideological mishmash being presented as a viable alternative to reality by whatever second tier college you happen to be partying at.
Oct 25 08:46:39 <thestringpuller>	Did you right that haha?
Oct 25 08:48:11 <thestringpuller>	write* damn it's too early for  me
Oct 25 08:50:39 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Oct 25 08:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, reddit.
Oct 25 08:53:03 <thestringpuller>	sorry for the wall of text
Oct 25 08:53:11 <thestringpuller>	one intelligent response
Oct 25 08:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	prolly should just paste links
Oct 25 08:53:15 <thestringpuller>	I should
Oct 25 08:53:19 <thestringpuller>	It's early
Oct 25 08:53:30 <thestringpuller>	been working on writing my on 3d pipeline for class in python
Oct 25 08:53:44 <thestringpuller>	(head to keyboard) so much math
Oct 25 08:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	scathing huh
Oct 25 08:54:13 <mircea_popescu>	i like it
Oct 25 08:54:22 <thestringpuller>	the response? haha
Oct 25 08:55:23 <thestringpuller>	the last sentence made me chuckle
Oct 25 08:55:45 <thestringpuller>	cause we just discussed the "university students" a few hours ago
Oct 25 08:58:34 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: question about options, when I purchase a put for this month as you said it's american style right? So basically I have until Oct 31st to exercise on the option's strike price?
Oct 25 08:58:47 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Oct 25 08:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	oct the 26th
Oct 25 08:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	all options expire on the last firday of their month
Oct 25 08:59:06 <thestringpuller>	oh
Oct 25 08:59:09 <thestringpuller>	tomorrow then
Oct 25 08:59:12 <thestringpuller>	damn son
Oct 25 08:59:20 <thestringpuller>	this be a gamble ;-0
Oct 25 08:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	o ya, you can't even buy them anymore
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Oct 25 09:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	bot doesn't offer during last 24 hours
Oct 25 09:00:20 <thestringpuller>	oh heh
Oct 25 09:00:24 <thestringpuller>	well next week then
Oct 25 09:00:36 <thestringpuller>	hopefully it doesn't go below 11 right before new options are issued
Oct 25 09:00:43 <thestringpuller>	but thats what the N's are for right?
Oct 25 09:00:49 <thestringpuller>	T = this month N = next month?
Oct 25 09:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	you can buy Ns, they expire november
Oct 25 09:00:57 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 25 09:01:14 <thestringpuller>	and they are "active" as soon as last month is over
Oct 25 09:01:17 <thestringpuller>	?*
Oct 25 09:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Oct 25 09:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean by "active"
Oct 25 09:04:19 <thestringpuller>	when are we allowed to exercise on the option's strike price?
Oct 25 09:04:36 <thestringpuller>	sorry for asking n00b questions
Oct 25 09:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	at any time up till their expiration
Oct 25 09:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 371 @ 0.00044081 = 0.1635 BTC [-]
Oct 25 09:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 25 09:19:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.13001, Best ask: 11.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 11.15000, 24 hour volume: 49643.68215816, 24 hour low: 11.02500, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.40163
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Oct 25 09:29:34 <thestringpuller>	it's plummeting
Oct 25 09:29:46 <thestringpuller>	Short Sell up in dis bitch no?
Oct 25 09:30:06 <thestringpuller>	You're going to be the BTC warren buffet one day.
Oct 25 09:30:15 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu
Oct 25 09:30:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 4 @ 0.14264076 = 0.5706 BTC [+]
Oct 25 09:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
Oct 25 09:31:14 <thestringpuller>	not saying that to butter you up, but you and smickles have ridiculous insight into the btc economy
Oct 25 09:31:31 <thestringpuller>	it's a shame more people just don't listen to you
Oct 25 09:32:08 <mircea_popescu>	well, the advantage of this venue is the very btc
Oct 25 09:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't tend to stick with the silly.
Oct 25 09:32:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.053896 = 0.539 BTC [+]
Oct 25 09:33:05 <thestringpuller>	is that someone exercising options
Oct 25 09:33:06 <thestringpuller>	?*
Oct 25 09:37:44 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Oct 25 09:38:10 <thestringpuller>	just buying selling them? I thought it was too late to buy this month
Oct 25 09:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	bot doesn't sell during last 24 hours.
Oct 25 09:40:04 <thestringpuller>	so those are people trading options?
Oct 25 09:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Oct 25 09:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	exercises aren't reported in the feed
Oct 25 09:40:41 <thestringpuller>	when you exercise and option you pay btc = to the usd price for the btc?
Oct 25 09:40:58 <thestringpuller>	btc strike price*
Oct 25 09:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Oct 25 09:41:41 <thestringpuller>	could you go over a quick example like I'm 5 for exercising and option (particularly a put)
Oct 25 09:41:49 <thestringpuller>	(I'm sorry I'm a n00b)
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Oct 25 09:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	(strike - current) / current for puts
Oct 25 09:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	(current - strike) / current for calls
Oct 25 09:43:03 <mircea_popescu>	so taking O.BTCUSD.P110T :
Oct 25 09:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 25 09:43:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.06003, Best ask: 11.10670, Bid-ask spread: 0.04667, Last trade: 11.06003, 24 hour volume: 52165.66011815, 24 hour low: 11.00000, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.37971
Oct 25 09:43:25 <thestringpuller>	that was deceivingly simple
Oct 25 09:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	well that's not itm
Oct 25 09:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	if it were a call :
Oct 25 09:43:43 <mircea_popescu>	( 11.37971 - 11) /  11.37971
Oct 25 09:45:51 <thestringpuller>	So for calls when your purchase the option, the strike price has to be below the current price, and vice-versa for puts? (being issued from bot that is)
Oct 25 09:46:01 <thestringpuller>	you* not your
Oct 25 09:50:26 <mircea_popescu>	well that's what an in the money option is
Oct 25 09:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	think about it, it's little use to have the right to buy at 12 when the market price is 11
Oct 25 09:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	or to sell at 10.
Oct 25 09:51:23 <thestringpuller>	i see, thanks for clarifying :)
Oct 25 09:51:43 <thestringpuller>	I changed my business VP
Oct 25 09:51:57 <thestringpuller>	cause you were right (as always)
Oct 25 09:52:11 <thestringpuller>	btc is not for consumers
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Oct 25 09:59:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00043989 = 1.9483 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 10:25:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00043989 = 4.2229 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 10:29:52 <kakobreklaaa>	15:52.11 ( thestringpuller ) btc is not for consumers
Oct 25 10:30:09 <kakobreklaaa>	whats the exact reasoning behind it
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Oct 25 10:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	A 20-year-old Brazilian student has sold her virginity in an online auction to a Japanese man named Natsu for £483,000 ($772,000).
Oct 25 10:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	i'd list that...
Oct 25 10:45:30 <Diablo-D3>	> japanese man
Oct 25 10:45:35 <Diablo-D3>	you know
Oct 25 10:45:37 <Diablo-D3>	I read this story
Oct 25 10:45:39 <Diablo-D3>	like last week
Oct 25 10:45:45 <Diablo-D3>	and the auction wasnt finished
Oct 25 10:45:47 <Diablo-D3>	and I was like
Oct 25 10:45:55 <Diablo-D3>	"sounds like something a japanese guy would bid for"
Oct 25 10:46:01 <Diablo-D3>	not sure if Im racist or accurate.
Oct 25 10:46:01 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno what the fuck you'd have to think
Oct 25 10:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	you can spend 150k on a car, $500 on pills
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Oct 25 10:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	and get three chicks in both holes
Oct 25 10:46:20 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: dude
Oct 25 10:46:21 <mircea_popescu>	each night
Oct 25 10:46:25 <Diablo-D3>	you have to go to HIGH SCHOOL
Oct 25 10:46:33 <Diablo-D3>	allllll the virgin women you'd ever want
Oct 25 10:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	more like junior high, but anyway
Oct 25 10:46:39 <Diablo-D3>	and a bunch you wouldnt want
Oct 25 10:46:51 <Diablo-D3>	and probably a few teachers that'd do it for you
Oct 25 10:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	or you could go to like... hm. thailand, was it ?
Oct 25 10:47:26 <Diablo-D3>	naw, ladyboys arent my thing
Oct 25 10:47:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cnn-scrubs-article-about-female-voting-study-womens-voting-patterns-vary-based-on-their-hormones/
Oct 25 10:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Oct 25 10:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	cnn had a fit of pms
Oct 25 10:48:02 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: why stop at two holes?
Oct 25 10:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	what, make some ?
Oct 25 10:48:52 <copumpkin>	oh, you clearly haven't seen the urethral sex videos
Oct 25 10:48:57 <copumpkin>	I am disappoint
Oct 25 10:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	im more of a sexual conservative like that
Oct 25 10:50:12 <thestringpuller>	I thought you were more pimpin than snoop dogg himself mircea_popescu
Oct 25 10:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	in a sexually conservative sort of way
Oct 25 10:50:50 <thestringpuller>	what do girls want?
Oct 25 10:50:55 <thestringpuller>	age old question
Oct 25 10:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16280 @ 0.00043989 = 7.1614 BTC [-]
Oct 25 10:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	diiiscipline
Oct 25 10:51:16 <thestringpuller>	o rly?
Oct 25 10:53:30 <thestringpuller>	i hate vector algebra
Oct 25 10:53:36 <thestringpuller>	but it is a necessary evil
Oct 25 10:56:08 <copumpkin>	nothing wrong with it
Oct 25 10:57:04 <thestringpuller>	if you have to do it by hand as if it's still 1812 then yea there is something wrong with hit
Oct 25 10:57:29 <mircea_popescu>	who has to do vector algebra by hand
Oct 25 10:58:23 <copumpkin>	depends if you're proving shit or calculating numbers :)
Oct 25 10:58:37 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 25 10:58:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.93000, Best ask: 10.93023, Bid-ask spread: 0.00023, Last trade: 10.93000, 24 hour volume: 61721.37923365, 24 hour low: 10.84731, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.30128
Oct 25 10:58:46 <thestringpuller>	time to buy options
Oct 25 10:59:12 <thestringpuller>	i'm doing 3d math
Oct 25 10:59:20 <thestringpuller>	rasterizing a 3d scene "by hand"
Oct 25 11:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110N] 4 @ 0.2426901 = 0.9708 BTC [+]
Oct 25 11:03:20 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Oct 25 11:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00043989 = 3.7391 BTC [-]
Oct 25 11:29:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://talkweb.eu/openweb/1842 le lol
Oct 25 11:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	facebook figures itself a sort of gubernmint
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Oct 25 11:54:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1696 @ 0.00043989 = 0.7461 BTC [-]
Oct 25 11:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31704 @ 0.00043985 = 13.945 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 12:17:06 <thestringpuller>	holy shit mircea_popescu
Oct 25 12:17:14 <thestringpuller>	that's frightening
Oct 25 12:19:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5596 @ 0.00043985 = 2.4614 BTC [-]
Oct 25 12:19:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00043753 = 2.0564 BTC [-]
Oct 25 12:19:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8055 @ 0.00043657 = 3.5166 BTC [-]
Oct 25 12:19:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35749 @ 0.00043655 = 15.6062 BTC [-]
Oct 25 12:22:05 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 25 12:22:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.04001, Best ask: 11.08999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 11.09000, 24 hour volume: 65134.03095826, 24 hour low: 10.84731, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.26946
Oct 25 12:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Oct 25 12:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6224 @ 0.00043655 = 2.7171 BTC [-]
Oct 25 13:09:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00043992 = 7.0827 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 13:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5427 @ 0.00043655 = 2.3692 BTC [-]
Oct 25 13:34:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10373 @ 0.0004357 = 4.5195 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 13:58:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 25 13:58:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.05000, Best ask: 11.12740, Bid-ask spread: 0.07740, Last trade: 11.05000, 24 hour volume: 65695.61932853, 24 hour low: 10.84731, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.25478
Oct 25 14:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10129 @ 0.00043992 = 4.4559 BTC [+]
Oct 25 14:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2359 @ 0.00044033 = 1.0387 BTC [+]
Oct 25 14:04:16 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 25 14:04:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.05000, Best ask: 11.05001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.05000, 24 hour volume: 65454.63059593, 24 hour low: 10.84731, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.25302
Oct 25 14:04:20 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 25 14:04:21 <gribble>	11.22
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Oct 25 14:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 3 @ 0.69548485 = 2.0865 BTC [+]
Oct 25 14:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 3 @ 0.05192401 = 0.1558 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 14:38:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28427 @ 0.0004357 = 12.3856 BTC [-]
Oct 25 14:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29073 @ 0.00043534 = 12.6566 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 15:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2868 @ 0.00043534 = 1.2486 BTC [-]
Oct 25 15:04:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00043529 = 11.7964 BTC [-]
Oct 25 15:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26232 @ 0.00043495 = 11.4096 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 15:14:54 <jurov>	thestringpuller, anything new?
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Oct 25 15:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42403 @ 0.00043623 = 18.4975 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 15:54:12 <EskimoBob>	damn btc is stuck below 12
Oct 25 15:55:41 <knotwork>	WTF is going on, ASIC makers still dumping huge numbers of coins to get USD to build their ASICs?
Oct 25 15:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00043496 = 1.7398 BTC [-]
Oct 25 15:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00043495 = 1.6528 BTC [-]
Oct 25 15:56:34 <pigeons>	that is the cnbc answer
Oct 25 15:56:52 <B0g4r7>	I thought the asic makers used bitpay or something to dump as soon as the purchase is made.
Oct 25 15:57:10 <pigeons>	ok change to bitpay still dumping ...
Oct 25 16:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P060N] 10 @ 0.052 = 0.52 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:00:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 25 16:00:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.66100, Best ask: 10.68991, Bid-ask spread: 0.02891, Last trade: 10.66100, 24 hour volume: 72170.32957297, 24 hour low: 10.66100, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.18757
Oct 25 16:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	ooo
Oct 25 16:00:38 <mircea_popescu>	i think i mostly had calls too.
Oct 25 16:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	funny how that works out
Oct 25 16:00:48 <dub>	facebook has jumped the shark
Oct 25 16:01:17 <dub>	I've been considering deleting my profile but I think I'll just let it rot to avoid the drama
Oct 25 16:03:49 <vampireb_>	i use fb for traking birthday of close friends
Oct 25 16:03:52 <vampireb_>	i dont have anyone else really
Oct 25 16:04:14 <vampireb_>	neither it has my real name on file
Oct 25 16:06:04 <dub>	lately I noticed it actually limits my social interaction
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Oct 25 16:07:56 <dub>	also get sick of untagging myself from shit
Oct 25 16:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	i really think this real name mystique is quite funny
Oct 25 16:19:33 <dub>	facebook was actually the first time my real name met the internet
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Oct 25 16:20:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00337 = 1.011 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:20:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.003375 = 10.125 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:20:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0034 = 0.68 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 16:21:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40346 @ 0.00043602 = 17.5917 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2297 @ 0.00043623 = 1.002 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00043832 = 0.7013 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17141 @ 0.00044033 = 7.5477 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00044576 = 7.8454 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:15 <john_smith>	real names are awesome
Oct 25 16:21:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00044733 = 2.5498 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32243 @ 0.00044889 = 14.4736 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50903 @ 0.00045028 = 22.9206 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00045144 = 11.3763 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00045148 = 0.9933 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29770 @ 0.00045172 = 13.4477 BTC [+]
Oct 25 16:21:35 <vampireb_>	i was removing my name from the internet, so far doing good :-)
Oct 25 16:21:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1200 @ 0.0032491 = 3.8989 BTC [-]
Oct 25 16:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol john_smith
Oct 25 16:22:40 <john_smith>	mircea_popescu: what's the stereotypical most common Romanian name?
Oct 25 16:23:07 <vampireb_>	and my name is quiet common :-)
Oct 25 16:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	ion popescu
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Oct 25 16:23:19 <thestringpuller>	why is premium so high on future puts?
Oct 25 16:23:33 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: really?
Oct 25 16:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	something like that.
Oct 25 16:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	ion, gheorghe, in general saint's names are quite frequent
Oct 25 16:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	ionescu is actually quite common last name too
Oct 25 16:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	and your john smith reminds me of this one time we were awaiting the visit of one jon smith, expert in whatever from headquarters!
Oct 25 16:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	guy turned out to be a stunning blonde.
Oct 25 16:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	by the name of JON smith
Oct 25 16:25:10 <vampireb_>	Joana!
Oct 25 16:25:25 <vampireb_>	Joan
Oct 25 16:25:53 <copumpkin>	lol
Oct 25 16:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	it actually was jon
Oct 25 16:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	not to mention the more-famous-than-me mircea monroe
Oct 25 16:27:59 <dub>	not robert?
Oct 25 16:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Oct 25 16:29:12 <dub>	I tracked some of your countrymen to a cnc channel on undernet called #robert once
Oct 25 16:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	robert kinda is a fag's name imo
Oct 25 16:30:56 <Doffx>	No, Rex is a fag name.
Oct 25 16:31:11 <dub>	res is ultra faggy
Oct 25 16:31:14 <Doffx>	mircea has fag potential.
Oct 25 16:31:21 <Doffx>	:P
Oct 25 16:31:46 <dub>	rex*, though robert is faggy too, I had a friend called robert
Oct 25 16:31:47 <Doffx>	Robert I see a Bob, I dont know any fag Bob's.
Oct 25 16:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	rex is a dog's name
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Oct 25 16:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	all dogs are fags.
Oct 25 16:32:04 <dub>	he made me angry, then went to hospital
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Oct 25 16:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	mircea kinda has fag potential... which is why it shouldn't be entrusted in the wrong hands
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Oct 25 16:47:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4376 @ 0.00045172 = 1.9767 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 16:52:55 <dub>	I think the engineers at broadcom are maintaining the culture of their former ceo
Oct 25 17:00:24 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 25 17:00:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.61227, Best ask: 10.70900, Bid-ask spread: 0.09673, Last trade: 10.71000, 24 hour volume: 79632.34301880, 24 hour low: 10.57000, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.11784
Oct 25 17:00:44 <thestringpuller>	frak i need jurov to load funds
Oct 25 17:00:50 <thestringpuller>	jurov: where is uuu
Oct 25 17:03:38 <smickles>	thestringpuller: trying to buy/sell some options?
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Oct 25 17:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00044794 = 2.5085 BTC [-]
Oct 25 17:16:15 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 25 17:16:35 <thestringpuller>	i want some puts before the price on the option sky rockets
Oct 25 17:16:46 <thestringpuller>	re smickles lol
Oct 25 17:17:19 <smickles>	i could be middle man for you, thestringpuller, and transfer your options to coinbr when jurov gets back
Oct 25 17:17:58 <smickles>	mircea?... aw damn, it'd work if mircea was here to expidite a deposite for us
Oct 25 17:18:10 <smickles>	(spelling :(
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Oct 25 17:20:54 <smickles>	thestringpuller: unless we're talking about ~2 btc of options
Oct 25 17:21:10 <smickles>	i seem to have that sitting in my mpex account
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Oct 25 17:33:46 <thestringpuller>	~5
Oct 25 17:33:59 <thestringpuller>	at work
Oct 25 17:34:02 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 25 17:34:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.61234, Best ask: 10.63978, Bid-ask spread: 0.02744, Last trade: 10.64000, 24 hour volume: 81343.69351950, 24 hour low: 10.52101, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.09616
Oct 25 17:34:12 <thestringpuller>	getting close to strike price
Oct 25 17:36:12 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 25 17:36:13 <gribble>	11.08
Oct 25 17:36:36 <dub>	thestringpuller: just in case you weren't aware, there are a number of live market data channels, I like #bitcoin-RT for gox only and #bitcoin-market for everything
Oct 25 17:37:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30701 @ 0.00044794 = 13.7522 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 17:39:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00044583 = 0.4458 BTC [-]
Oct 25 17:40:18 <thestringpuller>	so mr. smickles
Oct 25 17:40:29 <thestringpuller>	what are my options (no pun intended).
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Oct 25 18:04:15 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 25 18:04:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.54003, Best ask: 10.59888, Bid-ask spread: 0.05885, Last trade: 10.59999, 24 hour volume: 82048.95277895, 24 hour low: 10.52101, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.08577
Oct 25 18:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.0004443 = 7.5975 BTC [-]
Oct 25 18:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13099 @ 0.00044583 = 5.8399 BTC [+]
Oct 25 18:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17038 @ 0.00045012 = 7.6691 BTC [+]
Oct 25 18:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2154 @ 0.00045172 = 0.973 BTC [+]
Oct 25 18:10:14 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Oct 25 18:10:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00043313 / 0.00044108 / 0.00045172 (2687645 shares, 1,185.47 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00037391 / 0.00046059 (87264809 shares, 32,629.34 BTC)
Oct 25 18:19:53 <smickles>	thestringpuller: well
Oct 25 18:20:14 <smickles>	like i said, i only have about 2 btc to spare in my account,
Oct 25 18:21:23 <smickles>	so unless mircea hops on to expedite a deposit, I can place an order for you with that price limitation
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Oct 25 18:30:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0004558 = 0.4558 BTC [+]
Oct 25 18:30:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40200 @ 0.00045598 = 18.3304 BTC [+]
Oct 25 18:48:35 <thestringpuller>	okay do it
Oct 25 18:48:49 <thestringpuller>	get me puts @ 11 brfore the gap.closes
Oct 25 18:48:56 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 25 18:48:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.53102, Best ask: 10.54990, Bid-ask spread: 0.01888, Last trade: 10.55000, 24 hour volume: 82497.50706746, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 11.69890, 24 hour vwap: 11.05281
Oct 25 18:49:43 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 25 18:49:44 <gribble>	11.04
Oct 25 18:50:29 <thestringpuller>	smickles pm me address for me to close my "mini margin position"
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Oct 25 18:53:03 <thestringpuller>	;;ident smickles
Oct 25 18:53:04 <gribble>	Nick 'smickles', with hostmask 'smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com', is not identified.
Oct 25 18:53:35 <smickles>	;;eauth smickles
Oct 25 18:53:36 <gribble>	Request successful for user smickles, hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/EA62D7CEB2450C3F
Oct 25 18:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00046926 = 0.61 BTC [+]
Oct 25 18:55:46 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 25 18:55:47 <gribble>	11.04
Oct 25 18:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 48 @ 0.0538765 = 2.5861 BTC [+]
Oct 25 19:08:42 <thestringpuller>	oh man i meant P110T
Oct 25 19:10:32 <thestringpuller>	err P110n
Oct 25 19:10:56 <thestringpuller>	cause i didnt know you could still get this month
Oct 25 19:11:02 <thestringpuller>	given utc friday is coming
Oct 25 19:12:31 <smickles>	:o
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Oct 25 19:23:47 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 25 19:23:49 <gribble>	11.02
Oct 25 19:23:55 <thestringpuller>	soon
Oct 25 19:24:02 <thestringpuller>	shoon
Oct 25 19:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10302 @ 0.00046926 = 4.8343 BTC [+]
Oct 25 19:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4298 @ 0.00047432 = 2.0386 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 19:49:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2088 @ 0.00047432 = 0.9904 BTC [+]
Oct 25 19:49:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3812 @ 0.00047523 = 1.8116 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 20:14:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00047072 = 1.0356 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 20:19:48 <thestringpuller>	ls
Oct 25 20:20:07 <thestringpuller>	ls
Oct 25 20:20:17 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 25 20:20:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.83268, Best ask: 10.86499, Bid-ask spread: 0.03231, Last trade: 10.86665, 24 hour volume: 84893.19095904, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 11.69890, 24 hour vwap: 11.02568
Oct 25 20:20:39 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 25 20:20:40 <gribble>	11.01
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Oct 25 20:40:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6188 @ 0.00047523 = 2.9407 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 21:06:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00049132 = 9.2368 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 21:10:01 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> ls <<lol
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Oct 25 21:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00048692 = 12.9521 BTC [-]
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Oct 25 21:58:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41348 @ 0.00048947 = 20.2386 BTC [+]
Oct 25 21:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 852 @ 0.00049132 = 0.4186 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 22:24:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25448 @ 0.00049132 = 12.5031 BTC [+]
Oct 25 22:24:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1548 @ 0.00049188 = 0.7614 BTC [+]
Oct 25 22:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104894.msg1298149#msg1298149
Oct 25 22:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	that's a pretty juicy read.
Oct 25 22:46:04 <dub>	tldr?
Oct 25 22:46:12 <dub>	repost of confessions of a ppt op?
Oct 25 22:46:42 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Oct 25 22:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	repost of mpoe-pr's story, six months later.
Oct 25 22:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	but with moar emotion and inside angles
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Oct 25 22:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00048692 = 2.0938 BTC [-]
Oct 25 22:49:25 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: that's somewhat good to know :P
Oct 25 22:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	is it ?
Oct 25 22:50:01 <Azelphur>	indeed
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Oct 25 22:51:12 <dub>	is it time to hire a hit yet?
Oct 25 22:51:40 <dub>	the whole word is bond thing swings both ways
Oct 25 22:52:26 <Azelphur>	I heard BrightAnarchist is interested in suing him
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Oct 25 22:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	dub you know how all this "hire a hit" talk sounds ? like two down and out meth whores sitting in their three year old miniskirts on the curb. they don't wear underwear because they can't afford underwear.
Oct 25 22:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	and one goes to the other "time to call the helicopter yet ?"
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Oct 25 22:54:27 <dub>	well its easy to take the high ground
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Oct 25 22:55:12 <mircea_popescu>	no but seriously. a hit costs money. it doesn't pay 7% a month. ergo.
Oct 25 22:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	wait, i mean 7% a week. or a day. or WHATEVERTHEFUCK
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Oct 25 22:57:38 <dub>	yes yes, you were right, well done.
Oct 25 22:58:07 <dub>	and certainly some were way to deep in that poo pond
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Oct 25 22:59:30 <dub>	I lost pocket change but I'd happily contribute to preventing him continuing this career of fuckwitery
Oct 25 23:07:10 <dub>	given proximity I would gleefully mete out at least some disfigurement myself
Oct 25 23:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	you would ?!
Oct 25 23:15:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00049188 = 16.9699 BTC [+]
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Oct 25 23:16:30 <dub>	its been a long time, to feel of skin and bone cracking under my fists, what better justice is there?
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Oct 25 23:19:00 <dub>	I would have thought this fit with the libertarian ideal, eye for an eye oslt
Oct 25 23:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	suppose you get arrested.
Oct 25 23:25:16 <dub>	avoidable but not the end of the world (btdt)
Oct 25 23:30:11 <mircea_popescu>	no but i mean, suppose you get arrested.
Oct 25 23:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	are you going to pay for your lawyer out of pocket ?
Oct 25 23:31:57 <dub>	depends on circumstances, if there was hope of winning I might, otherwise take the court appointed monkey and a conviction
Oct 25 23:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	and all this for why ?
Oct 25 23:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	your time would be better spent cleanning floors
Oct 25 23:33:23 <dub>	justice and the greater good?
Oct 25 23:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	beating up some douche ?
Oct 25 23:33:52 <dub>	(a little pleasure_
Oct 25 23:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	a well if it's a sexual thing...
Oct 25 23:34:27 <dub>	yeah why not? dude that looks like elephant man will have a harder time with confidence tricks
Oct 25 23:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	course a hit traditionally means killing him.
Oct 25 23:35:10 <dub>	well hit I think traditionally means 'impact'
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Oct 25 23:35:19 <dub>	but colloquially, whatever
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Oct 25 23:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway : you're flat out wrong. dude that looks like elephant man has a much easier time scamming everyone
Oct 25 23:35:39 <mircea_popescu>	starting with the welfare department.
Oct 25 23:35:55 <dub>	so you would rather what? smugly admonish the suckers and allow this scum to continue victimising people?
Oct 25 23:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	just not trade with him anymore.
Oct 25 23:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	well, i wasn't trading with him to begin with, for the exact reasons, but as an academic point.
Oct 25 23:36:29 <dub>	what about the next guy, or innocent old lady
Oct 25 23:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	there's no innocence in ignorance.
Oct 25 23:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	old lady should retain the services of someone who's not innocent.
Oct 25 23:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	for a fee.
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Oct 25 23:41:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1916 @ 0.00048879 = 0.9365 BTC [-]
Oct 25 23:41:54 <dub>	perhaps cultural expectations
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Oct 25 23:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	but don't you think in principle it's more efficient to hire counsel before than to break bones after ?
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Oct 25 23:46:39 <dub>	sure, if warranted
Oct 25 23:47:04 <dub>	theres a cost benefit relationship
Oct 25 23:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	what's if warranted mean ?
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Oct 25 23:51:13 <dub>	at high school your buddy wants to borrow $5 for a donut from the tuckshop, do you hire lawyers first or twist his arm later?
Oct 25 23:51:51 <dub>	replace twist arm with cry to mommy if need be
Oct 25 23:53:17 <dub>	I don't understand how a libertarian is in favor of adding consultation tax to every transaction in life (then I don't understand libertarians much)
Oct 25 23:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	well for one point im not terribly concerned with a labeling, so i dunno that i am libertarian or anything.
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Oct 25 23:56:09 <mircea_popescu>	but your school example is very bad, because a. you're in close proximity and b. in most cultures kids are supposed to twist each others' arms all through kid years.
Oct 25 23:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	doing a little more or a little less has overall little impact.
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Oct 25 23:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	suppose your wife cheats on you (and you care). do you kill her or pick a better woman next time ?
Oct 25 23:57:58 <dub>	well I think it translates ok
Oct 25 23:58:25 <dub>	a) he is acting like a child b) there are peopl ein proximity who can achieve result
Oct 25 23:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	well, i could argue it's child abuse to try and find children to do stupid things. rather than have them beat up pirate you might as well fuck them, end result's the same.
Oct 25 23:59:26 <mircea_popescu>	and otherwise, a system which relies on being sufficiently childish seems a little... unappealing.
Oct 25 23:59:30 <dub>	not to them
Oct 26 00:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	the only way violence works in the frame you wish to use it is as a manifestation of dominance.
Oct 26 00:00:28 <dub>	I must go now and drink copiously
Oct 26 00:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	if you could beat up pirate with impunity and regularity (such as the state does) then maybe.
Oct 26 00:00:48 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise, hit and run affairs... he'll just count himself wronged.
Oct 26 00:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	later.
Oct 26 00:03:07 <smickles>	how well does beating someone up get your money back anyway?
Oct 26 00:03:54 <smickles>	or what's the benefit otherwise, i don't see much to gain in it
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Oct 26 00:06:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2584 @ 0.00048879 = 1.263 BTC [-]
Oct 26 00:06:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6851 @ 0.0004898 = 3.3556 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 00:31:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1781 @ 0.0004898 = 0.8723 BTC [+]
Oct 26 00:31:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12852 @ 0.00049188 = 6.3216 BTC [+]
Oct 26 00:32:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28164 @ 0.00049197 = 13.8558 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 00:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00048878 = 6.3541 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 01:22:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00048878 = 4.008 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 01:40:45 <thestringpuller>	i summon thee mircea_popescu
Oct 26 01:40:55 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Oct 26 01:41:02 <thestringpuller>	lol it worked
Oct 26 01:41:59 <thestringpuller>	lets start a bitcoin mafia to enforce gpg contracts
Oct 26 01:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Oct 26 01:42:21 <thestringpuller>	ruff em up
Oct 26 01:42:32 <thestringpuller>	then we'll see who doesnt pay
Oct 26 01:43:24 <thestringpuller>	in all seriousness this months puts expire at 1159pm UTC Oct 26
Oct 26 01:43:32 <thestringpuller>	correct?
Oct 26 01:46:07 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Oct 26 01:46:27 <thestringpuller>	i hope there is a huge panic tomorrow
Oct 26 01:46:28 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 26 01:46:46 <thestringpuller>	ill profit if it drops to 10.45ish
Oct 26 01:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10673 @ 0.0004893 = 5.2223 BTC [+]
Oct 26 01:48:29 <thestringpuller>	why is s.mpoe going up so high?
Oct 26 01:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	well... i guess not that much else left.
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Oct 26 01:55:24 <thestringpuller>	can i interview you one day warren buffet style and put it on reddit?
Oct 26 01:55:56 <thestringpuller>	like q: do you think the bitcoin economy will get better?
Oct 26 01:56:00 <thestringpuller>	haha
Oct 26 01:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Oct 26 01:56:57 <pigeons>	thestringpuller: what is that brown stuff on your nose?
Oct 26 01:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	introducing the new command, STATJSON
Oct 26 01:57:07 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 26 01:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you'll get a kick out of this http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#5
Oct 26 01:57:20 <thestringpuller>	pigeons gots jokes
Oct 26 02:00:39 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin needs brokers
Oct 26 02:01:22 <thestringpuller>	without smickles i wouldnt have been able to get options while itm
Oct 26 02:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	no coinbr ?
Oct 26 02:08:41 <thestringpuller>	coinbr isnt fully automated
Oct 26 02:09:02 <thestringpuller>	i would need jurov to expedite deposits
Oct 26 02:09:35 <thestringpuller>	smickles essentially opened a mini margin position for me
Oct 26 02:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	a
Oct 26 02:09:50 <thestringpuller>	and i sent him coins
Oct 26 02:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	get on kakobrekla's case to add mpex support in smpake
Oct 26 02:10:22 <thestringpuller>	LOL
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Oct 26 02:10:41 <thestringpuller>	well its cool mpex has demand for brokerage
Oct 26 02:11:09 <thestringpuller>	maybe one day when im golfing i can call jurov and be all "sell sell sell sell"
Oct 26 02:12:49 <thestringpuller>	is smpake like an extension of green addresses?
Oct 26 02:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14654 @ 0.00049197 = 7.2093 BTC [+]
Oct 26 02:13:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0004921 = 5.3147 BTC [+]
Oct 26 02:13:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21956 @ 0.00049259 = 10.8153 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 02:14:59 <thestringpuller>	oh man its gonna hit .0005
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Oct 26 02:30:44 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller spmpake is like a send money early thing
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Oct 26 02:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.0004912 = 16.1605 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37527 @ 0.0004893 = 18.362 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:32:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00048878 = 14.1257 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:32:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00048692 = 0.7791 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11558 @ 0.00048633 = 5.621 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00048438 = 8.0891 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:32:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00048423 = 4.9876 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:32:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16146 @ 0.0004841 = 7.8163 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:32:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13159 @ 0.00048393 = 6.368 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:32:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00048265 = 7.5776 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:32:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39912 @ 0.00048164 = 19.2232 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 02:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00047257 = 4.2059 BTC [-]
Oct 26 02:58:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30997 @ 0.00047275 = 14.6538 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 03:24:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2749 @ 0.00047536 = 1.3068 BTC [+]
Oct 26 03:24:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7251 @ 0.00047411 = 3.4378 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 03:51:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19778 @ 0.00047411 = 9.3769 BTC [-]
Oct 26 03:51:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18922 @ 0.00047279 = 8.9461 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 04:16:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36500 @ 0.00047467 = 17.3255 BTC [+]
Oct 26 04:16:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.0004747 = 2.0412 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 04:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42425 @ 0.0004747 = 20.1391 BTC [+]
Oct 26 04:42:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3787 @ 0.00047561 = 1.8011 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 05:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30728 @ 0.00047561 = 14.6145 BTC [+]
Oct 26 05:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2072 @ 0.00048 = 0.9946 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 05:33:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00047412 = 0.9482 BTC [-]
Oct 26 05:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00047279 = 3.6405 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 05:58:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15378 @ 0.00047279 = 7.2706 BTC [-]
Oct 26 05:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00047187 = 11.0889 BTC [-]
Oct 26 05:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13422 @ 0.00047165 = 6.3305 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 06:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32555 @ 0.00047165 = 15.3546 BTC [-]
Oct 26 06:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7383 @ 0.00047088 = 3.4765 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 06:49:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27085 @ 0.00047421 = 12.844 BTC [+]
Oct 26 06:49:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17915 @ 0.00047462 = 8.5028 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 07:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19577 @ 0.00047088 = 9.2184 BTC [-]
Oct 26 07:15:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30423 @ 0.00047072 = 14.3207 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 07:16:52 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: no, it will be like this: jurov call you and tells you, that XXXX has dropped another 10%, you tell him to buy more
Oct 26 07:17:03 <EskimoBob>	he will call you back, and same happens
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Oct 26 07:17:40 <EskimoBob>	on 18'th hole he calls you an tells you "game over"... you keel over and die
Oct 26 07:17:49 <EskimoBob>	:)
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Oct 26 07:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 26 07:35:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.56782, Best ask: 10.59400, Bid-ask spread: 0.02618, Last trade: 10.53800, 24 hour volume: 79094.75129794, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 11.37000, 24 hour vwap: 10.86052
Oct 26 07:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	o wouldja look at that.
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Oct 26 07:37:42 <jurov>	thestringpuller, you'll need both me and mircea to expedite deposits :)
Oct 26 07:38:15 <jurov>	STATJSON, eh?
Oct 26 07:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	jurov how about that.
Oct 26 07:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7619 @ 0.00047423 = 3.6132 BTC [+]
Oct 26 07:41:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5185 @ 0.00047462 = 2.4609 BTC [+]
Oct 26 07:41:43 <jurov>	heh, apparently i have to lay down with cold to start things moving
Oct 26 07:41:54 <mircea_popescu>	you have to what ?!
Oct 26 07:42:17 <jurov>	oh my engrish... i got cold yesterday and went to bed soon
Oct 26 07:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Oct 26 07:42:30 <mircea_popescu>	haha funny how that works isnt it
Oct 26 07:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly, it was in testing for weeks.
Oct 26 07:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	one point : the format for stat might change in the future, but not too soon. i expect everyone who uses stats programatically to move to statjson in the coming months.
Oct 26 07:47:12 <mircea_popescu>	then stat can be updated
Oct 26 07:47:35 <jurov>	okay
Oct 26 07:47:47 <jurov>	haha thestringpuller...you already know my hourly rate for development... multiply it by any odd prime and i'll do some phonesex..er.. brokerage
Oct 26 07:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 26 07:49:00 <mircea_popescu>	prolly should ping smickles about this too. who else... brendio's not on i see
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Oct 26 07:51:51 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 26 07:51:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.60103, Best ask: 10.68729, Bid-ask spread: 0.08626, Last trade: 10.69123, 24 hour volume: 78962.39488685, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 11.37000, 24 hour vwap: 10.85370
Oct 26 07:52:06 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 26 07:52:07 <gribble>	10.83
Oct 26 07:53:11 <thestringpuller>	smickles if you arent able to push the options to jurov before 2359 utc could you exercise the options for me?
Oct 26 07:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	they autoexercise
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Oct 26 08:01:13 <EskimoBob>	autoexercise = lay in bed and get fit
Oct 26 08:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 26 08:03:25 <EskimoBob>	8.26445 FUUUUCK
Oct 26 08:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	?
Oct 26 08:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 26 08:03:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.54624, Best ask: 10.62728, Bid-ask spread: 0.08104, Last trade: 10.62739, 24 hour volume: 78876.67072837, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 11.37000, 24 hour vwap: 10.85330
Oct 26 08:04:02 <EskimoBob>	someone got scared
Oct 26 08:04:06 <mircea_popescu>	gtfo stop scaring me lol
Oct 26 08:04:09 <EskimoBob>	EUR
Oct 26 08:04:12 <mircea_popescu>	a
Oct 26 08:04:17 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Oct 26 08:04:17 <gribble>	1 BTC = 10.62739 U.S. dollars = 8.21536024 Euros
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Oct 26 08:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	8.21 not .26
Oct 26 08:05:46 <EskimoBob>	it changes, you know... doh!
Oct 26 08:06:11 <EskimoBob>	I am looking at this one http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxEUR.html
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Oct 26 08:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13621 @ 0.00047677 = 6.4941 BTC [+]
Oct 26 08:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 26 08:08:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.54624, Best ask: 10.62716, Bid-ask spread: 0.08092, Last trade: 10.62716, 24 hour volume: 78834.66719548, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 11.37000, 24 hour vwap: 10.85285
Oct 26 08:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder wtf did it.
Oct 26 08:12:06 <jurov>	what is "md5Checksum" from JSONSTAT for?
Oct 26 08:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	padding, mostly.
Oct 26 08:16:43 <mircea_popescu>	it does the md5hash of the section
Oct 26 08:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	so you can use it to check sections integrity if presented with the cleartext signed document
Oct 26 08:18:50 <mircea_popescu>	gives a little armor-y strength to cleatext without actually going armor.
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Oct 26 08:25:37 <jurov>	i guessed as much.. but can't find out how to compute the checksum
Oct 26 08:26:07 <jurov>	for example
Oct 26 08:26:09 <jurov>	"Book":[{"2975392":{"MPSIC":"S.MPOE", "BS":"B", "Quantity":"20000", "Price":"21000"}},
Oct 26 08:26:10 <jurov>	{"md5Checksum":"356265b8eb6a38ac64536447c0070954"}],
Oct 26 08:26:19 <jurov>	tried
Oct 26 08:26:22 <jurov>	echo -n '{"2975392":{"MPSIC":"S.MPOE", "BS":"B", "Quantity":"20000", "Price":"21000"}}' | md5sum
Oct 26 08:26:25 <jurov>	is different
Oct 26 08:27:37 <mircea_popescu>	those are \n not spaces in there right ?
Oct 26 08:28:16 <jurov>	i see only \n after "Price":"21000"}},
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Oct 26 08:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	echo -n '{"2975392":{"MPSIC":"S.MPOE", "BS":"B", "Quantity":"20000", "Price":"21000"}},
Oct 26 08:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	> ' | md5sum
Oct 26 08:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	356265b8eb6a38ac64536447c0070954  -
Oct 26 08:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	seems right ?
Oct 26 08:32:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23112 @ 0.00048 = 11.0938 BTC [+]
Oct 26 08:34:12 <jurov>	yes, right
Oct 26 08:34:19 <mircea_popescu>	haha apparently it's already working :p
Oct 26 08:34:36 <jurov>	*snatches this to project wiki
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Oct 26 08:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	good idea.
Oct 26 08:53:54 <jurov>	gonna have some autoexercise now.. see you later
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Oct 26 08:57:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00047677 = 3.242 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 09:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35800 @ 0.00047724 = 17.0852 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 09:48:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00047724 = 5.3451 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 10:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00047724 = 2.1953 BTC [+]
Oct 26 10:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00048 = 18.72 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 10:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4875 @ 0.00047677 = 2.3243 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 11:04:54 <thestringpuller>	3
Oct 26 11:05:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00047558 = 13.2211 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 11:06:51 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: so there is JSONSTAT nao!? :D
Oct 26 11:08:05 <mod6>	so one would just use JSONSTAT instead of stat and then per the reqest they get an pgp encrypted/signed JSON output of the STAT?
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Oct 26 11:08:31 <thestringpuller>	mr. mircea_popescu
Oct 26 11:08:47 <thestringpuller>	and mr. jurov
Oct 26 11:08:49 <mod6>	(This is going to be helpful to show the users STAT in BitOTTer -- instead of doing a bunch of parsing against the formatting.
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Oct 26 11:08:52 <mod6>	)
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Oct 26 11:12:02 <mod6>	;;ticker
Oct 26 11:12:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.45101, Best ask: 10.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04899, Last trade: 10.50000, 24 hour volume: 74462.49957867, 24 hour low: 10.37300, 24 hour high: 11.15000, 24 hour vwap: 10.69639
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Oct 26 11:30:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4628 @ 0.00047558 = 2.201 BTC [-]
Oct 26 11:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00047487 = 1.8045 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 11:56:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00047351 = 16.5255 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 12:21:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9390 @ 0.00047072 = 4.4201 BTC [-]
Oct 26 12:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14010 @ 0.00047061 = 6.5932 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 12:47:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2772 @ 0.00047351 = 1.3126 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 13:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00047378 = 17.672 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 13:33:15 <thestringpuller>	sir MiningBuddy
Oct 26 13:33:18 <thestringpuller>	sir mircea_popescu
Oct 26 13:33:19 <thestringpuller>	*
Oct 26 13:37:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5742 @ 0.00047378 = 2.7204 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 13:53:38 <jurov>	thestringpuller?
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Oct 26 14:03:00 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Oct 26 14:03:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 9.88000, Best ask: 9.89919, Bid-ask spread: 0.01919, Last trade: 9.89919, 24 hour volume: 95950.94904574, 24 hour low: 9.80000, 24 hour high: 11.12590, 24 hour vwap: 10.53361
Oct 26 14:03:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00047097 = 12.5749 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 14:11:37 <Chaang-Noi>	under 10
Oct 26 14:11:38 <Chaang-Noi>	sad
Oct 26 14:12:18 <jurov>	oops
Oct 26 14:12:18 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Oct 26 14:12:20 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 205090 | Current Difficulty: 3072321.7320208 | Next Difficulty At Block: 205631 | Next Difficulty In: 541 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3213027.65513633 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.57979129103
Oct 26 14:12:35 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi more fun for the rest of us
Oct 26 14:12:48 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Oct 26 14:12:57 <Chaang-Noi>	why?
Oct 26 14:13:08 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz you are buying?
Oct 26 14:14:06 <gigavps>	because it's fun
Oct 26 14:14:25 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Oct 26 14:14:58 <gigavps>	looks like we're getting a little bounce here before back below $10
Oct 26 14:17:34 <Chaang-Noi>	a decent bounce
Oct 26 14:18:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder if someone is just messing with the price to have options hit
Oct 26 14:19:05 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway off to bed
Oct 26 14:21:03 <jurov>	dunno, mpoe is using 24hr average, it needs more serious nudge to be affected
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Oct 26 14:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00047061 = 4.1884 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 14:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13274 @ 0.00047061 = 6.2469 BTC [-]
Oct 26 14:53:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13026 @ 0.0004701 = 6.1235 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 15:18:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40174 @ 0.0004701 = 18.8858 BTC [-]
Oct 26 15:18:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00047009 = 1.3633 BTC [-]
Oct 26 15:18:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2126 @ 0.00047 = 0.9992 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 15:40:30 <thestringpuller>	i need to speak with senor smickles
Oct 26 15:40:46 <thestringpuller>	señor smickles*
Oct 26 15:43:11 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Oct 26 15:43:11 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 39 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <smickles> or what's the benefit otherwise, i don't see much to gain in it
Oct 26 15:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00047 = 3.666 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 16:02:07 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Oct 26 16:02:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00043602 / 0.0004728 / 0.00049259 (1711086 shares, 809.00 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00037572 / 0.00049259 (87757519 shares, 32,972.81 BTC)
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Oct 26 16:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28815 @ 0.00047066 = 13.5621 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 16:22:10 <thestringpuller>	anyone know how to contact smickles?
Oct 26 16:33:13 <Anduck>	;;seen smickles
Oct 26 16:33:14 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 29 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <smickles> or what's the benefit otherwise, i don't see much to gain in it
Oct 26 16:35:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17174 @ 0.00047097 = 8.0884 BTC [+]
Oct 26 16:35:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9026 @ 0.00047514 = 4.2886 BTC [+]
Oct 26 16:41:01 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 26 16:41:02 <gribble>	10.39
Oct 26 16:41:03 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 26 16:41:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 9.94798, Best ask: 9.94800, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 9.94798, 24 hour volume: 89460.44746472, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.42133
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Oct 26 17:00:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00047514 = 2.2807 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 17:04:54 <smickles>	;;calc ([bc,24hprc] - 11) / [bc,24hprc])
Oct 26 17:04:55 <gribble>	Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
Oct 26 17:04:57 <smickles>	;;calc ([bc,24hprc] - 11) / [bc,24hprc]
Oct 26 17:04:58 <gribble>	-0.0607521697203
Oct 26 17:05:11 <smickles>	;;calc (11 - [bc,24hprc]) / [bc,24hprc]
Oct 26 17:05:12 <gribble>	0.0607521697203
Oct 26 17:05:45 <smickles>	<@assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 48 @ 0.0538765 = 2.5861 BTC [+]
Oct 26 17:06:22 <smickles>	;;calc (11 - [bc,24hprc]) / [bc,24hprc] - .0538765
Oct 26 17:06:23 <gribble>	0.00687566972035
Oct 26 17:06:46 <smickles>	;;calc ((11 - [bc,24hprc]) / [bc,24hprc] - .0538765) * 48
Oct 26 17:06:47 <gribble>	0.330032146577
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Oct 26 17:27:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24274 @ 0.00047514 = 11.5335 BTC [+]
Oct 26 17:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2626 @ 0.0004757 = 1.2492 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 17:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00047471 = 5.4117 BTC [-]
Oct 26 17:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	sup ?
Oct 26 17:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 yup :D
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Oct 26 17:56:19 <jurov>	someone plugged something.. blocks arrive at dizzying speed
Oct 26 17:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Oct 26 17:56:41 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 30 seconds
Oct 26 17:56:44 <mircea_popescu>	yah
Oct 26 17:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	 Network total	24.362 Thash/s
Oct 26 17:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	it was 23 earlier today
Oct 26 17:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	and 20 last week
Oct 26 17:57:13 <jurov>	oh yes, our friends at ETH Zurich: http://blockchain.info/blocks/82.130.102.160
Oct 26 17:58:01 <mircea_popescu>	just relay neh ?
Oct 26 17:58:28 <jurov>	no, they really mine with supercomputer..let me dig that..
Oct 26 17:59:34 <jurov>	http://www.syssec.ethz.ch/research/Bitcoin
Oct 26 18:02:13 <mircea_popescu>	these are the guys that discovered doublespends and thought they cracked bitcoin iirc
Oct 26 18:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2012/10/bitcoin-can-topple-the-might-of-banks-say-researchers-but-needs-to-be-more-secure-2475802.html ya ya
Oct 26 18:03:03 <jurov>	looks like they want to help their budget
Oct 26 18:03:37 <mircea_popescu>	 Network total	25.184 Thash/s
Oct 26 18:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	dude srsly. someone added 750 gh/s in 10 minutes
Oct 26 18:04:16 <PsychoticBoy>	Me ;)
Oct 26 18:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol wd
Oct 26 18:04:26 <mircea_popescu>	there goes gigavps' farm
Oct 26 18:06:05 <PsychoticBoy>	Sry mircea, I currently have ~120Gh/s, still less than giga iirc
Oct 26 18:06:31 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: thanks! that's gonna be awesome.
Oct 26 18:06:59 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 :D should be!
Oct 26 18:07:28 <mod6>	I've been swammped this last 2.5 weeks... I've still done a bunch of work on bitotter's encryption parts. Got a bit more to do there and then thats nearly it.
Oct 26 18:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	a good to hear.
Oct 26 18:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Oct 26 18:08:10 <gribble>	Time since last block: 5 minutes and 27 seconds
Oct 26 18:08:26 <mod6>	Well, the JSONSTAT i'll grab once that's done and i'll be able to use that. the STAT screen is one remaining that I haven't designed yet just because I knew i'd have to just do it line at a time parsing or what not
Oct 26 18:08:59 <mod6>	this speeds that whole thing way up. i have a bunch of reuseable code from the other JSON parsing stuff it does.
Oct 26 18:09:13 <mod6>	:]
Oct 26 18:09:19 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Oct 26 18:10:00 <mircea_popescu>	you know how they say, if you don't do it today maybe tomorrow it won't need to be done anymore
Oct 26 18:10:55 <jurov>	hehe.. like i dreaded how would i accurately distribute interest to users
Oct 26 18:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : that's gonna be in the json :D
Oct 26 18:11:31 <jurov>	you plan to pay it again sometime?
Oct 26 18:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Oct 26 18:12:40 <mod6>	\o/
Oct 26 18:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	so hmm... mpoe gains 10%, btc loses 10% the next day
Oct 26 18:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	this is eerie
Oct 26 18:12:53 <mod6>	thats like 2 awesome things in under 10 minutes
Oct 26 18:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	someone who bought mpoe say thursday has today the same dollar value of btc
Oct 26 18:14:36 <mod6>	yeah -- new all time high yesterday on s.mpoe right?
Oct 26 18:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Oct 26 18:15:49 <mod6>	ever since all of the stuff with nefario and glbse started getting heated up, the volume dropped for btc, and leaving what seemed only good support levels at like 7, 8, 9
Oct 26 18:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt nefario drama has much impact
Oct 26 18:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	it's likely the miners
Oct 26 18:17:12 <mod6>	oh with the difficulty being what is?
Oct 26 18:17:16 <mod6>	what is it?
Oct 26 18:17:21 <mod6>	;;bc,estimate
Oct 26 18:17:21 <gribble>	3220924.68525896
Oct 26 18:17:29 <mod6>	is that the right one?
Oct 26 18:17:34 <mod6>	;;bc,stats
Oct 26 18:17:36 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 205120 | Current Difficulty: 3072321.7320208 | Next Difficulty At Block: 205631 | Next Difficulty In: 511 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 8 hours, 20 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3220924.68525896 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.83682915397
Oct 26 18:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	supposed to jump 5% but it might be even more
Oct 26 18:17:56 <jurov>	;;bc,tslb
Oct 26 18:17:57 <gribble>	Time since last block: 6 minutes and 8 seconds
Oct 26 18:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	and another 100 gh/s added
Oct 26 18:18:11 <mod6>	yeah wow.
Oct 26 18:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.0004757 = 2.6164 BTC [+]
Oct 26 18:18:43 <mod6>	less than 5000 blocks left!
Oct 26 18:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoinclock.com/ moving earlier into the 29th
Oct 26 18:20:07 <mod6>	cool site :)
Oct 26 18:20:21 <mod6>	aight gotta run for now. talk to you all a bit later!
Oct 26 18:20:25 *	mod6 is out
Oct 26 18:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.geekosystem.com/hermit-crab-mobs/ lol
Oct 26 18:34:39 <mircea_popescu>	Network total	27.649 Thash/s
Oct 26 18:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	holy cow
Oct 26 18:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	2500 gh/s added past HALF HOUR
Oct 26 18:35:06 <PsychoticBoy>	still growing, would asics really be send in 3 weks?
Oct 26 18:35:11 <PsychoticBoy>	weeks*
Oct 26 18:35:13 <mircea_popescu>	maybe so
Oct 26 18:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	you suppose this is asicminer test run ?
Oct 26 18:35:39 <PsychoticBoy>	no more bfl
Oct 26 18:42:06 <BTC-Mining>	eh, just people jumping on their computer after dinner and their GPU starting could explain it too... total hashing rate varies a lot during the day
Oct 26 18:42:19 <BTC-Mining>	or just more luck finding block
Oct 26 18:42:24 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 26 18:42:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 9.82206, Best ask: 9.92292, Bid-ask spread: 0.10086, Last trade: 9.93012, 24 hour volume: 95204.70588449, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.33927
Oct 26 18:42:29 <BTC-Mining>	total network is estimated after all.
Oct 26 18:42:30 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 26 18:42:31 <gribble>	10.32
Oct 26 18:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	 Network total	27.944 Thash/s
Oct 26 18:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't vary a lot in the sense of going to 27+, no
Oct 26 18:42:46 <thestringpuller>	mr. mircea_popescu good to see you tonight
Oct 26 18:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	heya.
Oct 26 18:43:06 <thestringpuller>	i want an mpex account we'll talk soon
Oct 26 18:43:08 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 26 18:43:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 9.82206, Best ask: 9.91787, Bid-ask spread: 0.09581, Last trade: 9.93012, 24 hour volume: 95204.70588449, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.33927
Oct 26 18:43:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00047471 = 7.1207 BTC [-]
Oct 26 18:52:26 <BTC-Mining>	eh, about ASICMINER, I hope GLBSE release the information and they start trading again.
Oct 26 18:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	it's possible these are their asics we're seeing
Oct 26 18:57:04 <BTC-Mining>	But remember that a good part of the network might be from compromised machines/evening users. Users go online and network rate goes up. It's 7 PM now on the east coast
Oct 26 18:57:57 <BTC-Mining>	Their GPU starts and hop, 2.5 terahash added
Oct 26 18:58:22 <BTC-Mining>	2.5 terahash is only 3000 - 10000 high end radeon GPU
Oct 26 19:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	come on
Oct 26 19:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	this was never seen historically.
Oct 26 19:00:58 <BTC-Mining>	http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin-2k.png
Oct 26 19:01:22 <BTC-Mining>	look at the 8 hour estimate for the last weeks. Goes as low as 15 Terahash and as high as 30 Terahash
Oct 26 19:01:28 <BTC-Mining>	It swings all the time
Oct 26 19:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Oct 26 19:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	maybe i haven't been paying enough attention
Oct 26 19:01:57 <BTC-Mining>	On what period is your network total averaged?
Oct 26 19:02:03 <mircea_popescu>	then again, i thought the number im quoting is 24h
Oct 26 19:02:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ up right there
Oct 26 19:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	iirc it was 24h but can't find a reference right now
Oct 26 19:02:32 <BTC-Mining>	hmm, well the 1 day estimate does vary by as much as 5 ghash
Oct 26 19:02:39 <BTC-Mining>	5 terhash*
Oct 26 19:03:38 <mircea_popescu>	ya but it rarely went over 25
Oct 26 19:03:44 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Oct 26 19:03:46 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 205125 | Current Difficulty: 3072321.7320208 | Next Difficulty At Block: 205631 | Next Difficulty In: 506 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 7 hours, 16 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3223285.30550262 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.91366421389
Oct 26 19:03:58 <dub>	;;bc,diffchange
Oct 26 19:03:59 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 4.91366421389 % based on data since last change | 5.47811982694 % based on data for last three days
Oct 26 19:04:57 <BTC-Mining>	eh, indeed for that
Oct 26 19:04:58 <dub>	fucking bfl
Oct 26 19:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	dub you think bfl ?
Oct 26 19:05:48 <dub>	no, i just want my bfl asic delivered :)
Oct 26 19:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 26 19:09:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00047232 = 10.6744 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 19:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	soo kinda big announcement :
Oct 26 19:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	you can now make your own copies of mpex db
Oct 26 19:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/db_dump.php link.
Oct 26 19:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	jurov smickles mod6 ^^
Oct 26 19:23:01 <jurov>	already trying to figure out how to decrypt :)
Oct 26 19:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Oct 26 19:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	i think you kinda need my private key.
Oct 26 19:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully at least.
Oct 26 19:24:00 <jurov>	gpg: decryption failed: No secret key
Oct 26 19:24:05 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Oct 26 19:24:22 <jurov>	so you want everyone to do you a backup, eh?
Oct 26 19:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	hey, why spend my own money you know ?
Oct 26 19:26:14 <jurov>	i should preemptively accuse you on btctalk : "MPEx scandal: relies on its users to do backups"
Oct 26 19:27:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 26 19:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120758.msg1300467
Oct 26 19:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	post there
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Oct 26 19:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	but seriously jurov i think it adds a significant level of security.
Oct 26 19:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	well, unless someone manages to crack gpg
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Oct 26 19:31:47 <jurov>	i hope you don't compress the backup prior to export.. heard about CRIME attack
Oct 26 19:31:48 <jurov>	?
Oct 26 19:33:12 <mircea_popescu>	i take a number of measures to prevent as much as possible a crack
Oct 26 19:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	and no, there's no compression.
Oct 26 19:34:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00047242 = 2.2204 BTC [+]
Oct 26 19:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	(and also, https is bullshit)
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Oct 26 19:45:21 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: :D
Oct 26 19:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Oct 26 19:49:19 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,nettarget
Oct 26 19:49:19 <gribble>	Error: "bc,nettarget" is not a valid command.
Oct 26 19:49:22 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,nethash
Oct 26 19:49:23 <gribble>	23261.246072162205
Oct 26 19:49:48 <thestringpuller>	so what was the net of my option mr. smickles?
Oct 26 19:51:01 <smickles>	;;calc ((11 - [bc,24hprc]) / [bc,24hprc] - .0538765) * 48
Oct 26 19:51:02 <gribble>	0.77579570428
Oct 26 19:51:05 <smickles>	if done currently
Oct 26 19:51:15 <smickles>	you still have a few minutes tho
Oct 26 19:51:17 <thestringpuller>	woot
Oct 26 19:51:19 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 26 19:51:19 <thestringpuller>	oh really
Oct 26 19:51:19 <gribble>	10.28
Oct 26 19:51:20 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 26 19:51:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.18009, Best ask: 10.24999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06990, Last trade: 10.18008, 24 hour volume: 99436.59165322, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.31222
Oct 26 19:51:22 <thestringpuller>	my alarm went off
Oct 26 19:51:25 <thestringpuller>	last hour
Oct 26 19:51:36 <smickles>	isn't it utc 23:51 right now?
Oct 26 19:51:45 <thestringpuller>	yea
Oct 26 19:51:49 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 26 19:51:52 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 26 19:51:53 <gribble>	10.28
Oct 26 19:53:26 <smickles>	thestringpuller: you're staring down the barrel of a 30% profit
Oct 26 19:53:37 <smickles>	at mircea_popescu's expense
Oct 26 19:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	haha i got bondholders
Oct 26 19:53:53 <smickles>	oh yeah
Oct 26 19:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	what volume we talkin' about ?
Oct 26 19:54:11 <smickles>	<4 btc
Oct 26 19:54:16 <smickles>	:D
Oct 26 19:54:36 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i gave thestringpuller a mini-margin thingy
Oct 26 19:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	either the bondholders or the shareholders will feel the 30% of 4btc pain
Oct 26 19:55:19 <thestringpuller>	hahahah
Oct 26 19:55:23 <thestringpuller>	you guys make me happy
Oct 26 19:55:29 <thestringpuller>	I do feel like a won a bet though
Oct 26 19:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	good for you.
Oct 26 19:56:36 <thestringpuller>	 /sarcasm lol
Oct 26 19:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 26 19:56:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.18025, Best ask: 10.24641, Bid-ask spread: 0.06616, Last trade: 10.18025, 24 hour volume: 99088.49020270, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.31053
Oct 26 19:57:33 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: MPEX is the coolest thing ever
Oct 26 19:57:41 <thestringpuller>	to happen to btc
Oct 26 19:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	why ty. i am of the same persuasion.
Oct 26 19:58:02 <thestringpuller>	Such easy access to options lol
Oct 26 19:59:03 <BTC-Mining>	the best thing to happen would be maintstream adoption...
Oct 26 19:59:25 <thestringpuller>	99% of the people only own 1% of the wealth
Oct 26 19:59:32 <thestringpuller>	why would wide spread adoption help?
Oct 26 19:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16875 @ 0.00047242 = 7.9721 BTC [+]
Oct 26 19:59:55 <BTC-Mining>	it's a currency...
Oct 26 19:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	haha now that's a point
Oct 26 20:00:11 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining any guess as to what % of roman empire subjects ever touched a solidus ?
Oct 26 20:00:16 <thestringpuller>	you need like warren buffet and his friends to come in and "adopt it"
Oct 26 20:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	like, in their lifetime.
Oct 26 20:00:32 <BTC-Mining>	why would they adopt it if there's no market using it?
Oct 26 20:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	market != consumer market.
Oct 26 20:01:00 <thestringpuller>	consumers don't have a lot of money
Oct 26 20:01:38 <BTC-Mining>	They don't own a lot, but they spend a lot of what they have. Those who have a lot stash it.
Oct 26 20:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	jurov  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.msg1299839#msg1299839
Oct 26 20:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining in btc ?
Oct 26 20:01:57 <BTC-Mining>	Consumers would help attract large businesses, who would then start accumulating bitcoins
Oct 26 20:07:23 <jurov>	mircea yes i saw that. now am trying to explain how i feel about multifactor auth
Oct 26 20:07:34 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: what was the official price at maturity for mpex options?
Oct 26 20:07:46 *	mircea_popescu looks
Oct 26 20:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	10.27
Oct 26 20:08:45 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it's a dilemma you find yourself in there i guess
Oct 26 20:09:16 <smickles>	;;calc ((11 - 10.27) / 10.27 - .0538765) * 48
Oct 26 20:09:17 <gribble>	0.825807259981
Oct 26 20:09:25 <jurov>	it's either snake oil or expense i can't afford (buying yubikeys or sending sms)
Oct 26 20:09:37 <smickles>	thestringpuller: should i use that same address, or do you want me to keep it on account for you?
Oct 26 20:09:54 <smickles>	;;calc ((11 - 10.27) / 10.27) * 48
Oct 26 20:09:55 <gribble>	3.41187925998
Oct 26 20:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	jurov on the other hand, browser sessions are vulnerable.
Oct 26 20:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	but i think a honest rundown of the thing is prolly the best policy. "here is what i can do, here is what i can't do. if you actually handle enough cash that you need what i can't do, talk to mpex directly and problem solved"
Oct 26 20:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	for the record, month close happend on 1351296001
Oct 26 20:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	within the fucken second ALL OF IT
Oct 26 20:16:52 *	copumpkin moos like a cow
Oct 26 20:19:12 <thestringpuller>	jurov:
Oct 26 20:19:18 <thestringpuller>	how do we get quick deposits/
Oct 26 20:19:19 <thestringpuller>	?*
Oct 26 20:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin now moo like a bull
Oct 26 20:20:53 *	copumpkin moos like a bull
Oct 26 20:21:40 *	mircea_popescu hears no difference.
Oct 26 20:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	gender equality.
Oct 26 20:21:53 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 26 20:22:31 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: are mpex deposits automated?
Oct 26 20:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Oct 26 20:22:57 <thestringpuller>	you do them manually
Oct 26 20:22:59 <thestringpuller>	?*
Oct 26 20:23:00 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 26 20:23:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.15000, Best ask: 10.19996, Bid-ask spread: 0.04996, Last trade: 10.15000, 24 hour volume: 98610.17306644, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.30583
Oct 26 20:23:19 <jurov>	thestringpuller, only possible way i know is to have some reserve (or margin) on MPEx that can be used immediately
Oct 26 20:23:38 <jurov>	allocated to your account
Oct 26 20:24:16 <thestringpuller>	how long does an mpex deposit usually take?
Oct 26 20:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1225 @ 0.00047242 = 0.5787 BTC [+]
Oct 26 20:25:04 <jurov>	iirc it may be more than 6 hours
Oct 26 20:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13475 @ 0.00047548 = 6.4071 BTC [+]
Oct 26 20:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller the declared limit is 2 days. it usually takes significantly less.
Oct 26 20:26:10 <jurov>	i do such "quick deposits" already for those 1btc users but i guess you want more
Oct 26 20:26:36 <thestringpuller>	i'm seeing if I want to go direct to mpex
Oct 26 20:26:43 <thestringpuller>	or dump a bunch of money into coinbr
Oct 26 20:28:09 <jurov>	if you are going to do many transactions, coinbr will help you keep overview
Oct 26 20:28:28 <jurov>	otherwise you need to keep it in spreadsheet
Oct 26 20:29:53 <thestringpuller>	if I were to generate a high enough volume could I get margin to cover "quick deposits"?
Oct 26 20:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller in general the capital is the key criterion. if you plan to do k's of btc you probably want mpex. if you plan to do 10s of btc you prolly want coinbr. if hundreds it's messier.
Oct 26 20:30:21 <thestringpuller>	hundreds...:\
Oct 26 20:30:28 <thestringpuller>	maybe thousands one day
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Oct 26 20:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	then i guess you'll have to weigh them
Oct 26 20:33:11 <thestringpuller>	if i were to do this longterm what would your reccomendation be?
Oct 26 20:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	glbse
Oct 26 20:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	wait nm.
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Oct 26 20:34:46 <thestringpuller>	nice joke
Oct 26 20:34:48 <thestringpuller>	:P
Oct 26 20:34:49 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 26 20:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Oct 26 20:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	my sense of humour.
Oct 26 20:36:25 <jurov>	you'll be my special customer. I'm going to cater to your whims (no phonesex, tho)
Oct 26 20:36:36 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Oct 26 20:36:45 <mircea_popescu>	y u no cybersex!
Oct 26 20:36:56 <thestringpuller>	So you can be my mini broker jurov ?
Oct 26 20:37:04 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller ask him to get rid of css on coinbr :D
Oct 26 20:37:34 <jurov>	thestringpuller, yes i can
Oct 26 20:37:41 <thestringpuller>	hahaha
Oct 26 20:37:43 <thestringpuller>	get rid of css
Oct 26 20:37:50 <thestringpuller>	I really want the access to the api
Oct 26 20:37:53 <thestringpuller>	cause I can make bots easily
Oct 26 20:38:02 <thestringpuller>	then my computer is my broker
Oct 26 20:38:03 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 26 20:39:22 <jurov>	as long as you don't expect to do X transactions per second or more, then it's possible
Oct 26 20:39:55 <thestringpuller>	Ideally I would like to make trades without a website in honesty
Oct 26 20:41:11 <thestringpuller>	if you can make that happen jurov then it'll be worthwhile
Oct 26 20:41:22 <thestringpuller>	if not the ~30 btc fee isn't that bad
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Oct 26 20:42:04 <thestringpuller>	up to you, what you can provide
Oct 26 20:42:05 <jurov>	OK, exporting json interface should not be a problem. i planned to do one anyway for mod6's adroid app
Oct 26 20:42:45 <thestringpuller>	cool, I won't flood it, i just want bot access because I can't be awake 24/7
Oct 26 20:44:03 <jurov>	so i guess you need to submit order/cancel/exercise, right?
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Oct 26 20:45:13 <jurov>	any more data? everything other you'll use via browser?
Oct 26 20:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19651 @ 0.00047232 = 9.2816 BTC [-]
Oct 26 20:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00047189 = 10.6647 BTC [-]
Oct 26 20:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10336 @ 0.00047171 = 4.8756 BTC [-]
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Oct 26 21:14:43 <jurov>	good night
Oct 26 21:15:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44968 @ 0.00047257 = 21.2505 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 21:26:41 <smickles>	thestringpuller: it turns out that the official number is 10.28, not 10.27
Oct 26 21:27:16 <smickles>	;;calc ((11 - 10.28) / 10.28) * 48
Oct 26 21:27:16 <gribble>	3.36186770428
Oct 26 21:30:36 <thestringpuller>	either way i made cash
Oct 26 21:30:38 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 26 21:32:10 <smickles>	thestringpuller: do you have a WoT identity?
Oct 26 21:38:40 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 26 21:39:36 <smickles>	0_o
Oct 26 21:39:44 <smickles>	jurov: https://github.com/jurov/MPExAgent :D
Oct 26 21:43:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1182 @ 0.00047257 = 0.5586 BTC [+]
Oct 26 21:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14518 @ 0.00047171 = 6.8483 BTC [-]
Oct 26 21:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	s.mpoe statement is out : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-october-2012-statement/
Oct 26 21:50:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 1000000000 @ 0.00000063 = 630.31566629 BTC
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Oct 26 22:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14846 @ 0.00047171 = 7.003 BTC [-]
Oct 26 22:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20302 @ 0.00047157 = 9.5738 BTC [-]
Oct 26 22:27:23 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 26 22:27:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 9.88026, Best ask: 9.96973, Bid-ask spread: 0.08947, Last trade: 9.97986, 24 hour volume: 98509.23509746, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.26302
Oct 26 22:35:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6898 @ 0.00047157 = 3.2529 BTC [-]
Oct 26 22:35:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20685 @ 0.00047066 = 9.7356 BTC [-]
Oct 26 22:35:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24217 @ 0.00047 = 11.382 BTC [-]
Oct 26 22:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	nighty all!
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Oct 26 23:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3919 @ 0.00047 = 1.8419 BTC [-]
Oct 26 23:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00046997 = 9.6344 BTC [-]
Oct 26 23:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00046979 = 0.7047 BTC [-]
Oct 26 23:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6881 @ 0.0004692 = 3.2286 BTC [-]
Oct 26 23:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00047193 = 1.463 BTC [+]
Oct 26 23:28:08 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 26 23:28:09 <gribble>	10.21
Oct 26 23:28:10 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 26 23:28:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 9.96010, Best ask: 9.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03989, Last trade: 9.99899, 24 hour volume: 93849.91090536, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.83000, 24 hour vwap: 10.23564
Oct 26 23:28:59 <smickles>	;;calc (10 - [ticker --bid]) / [ticker --bid]
Oct 26 23:29:00 <gribble>	-0.00264896435068
Oct 26 23:29:51 <smickles>	;;calc [bc,24hprc] / [ticker --bid]
Oct 26 23:29:52 <gribble>	1.03136730414
Oct 26 23:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100N] 10 @ 0.27290903 = 2.7291 BTC [+]
Oct 26 23:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100N] 9 @ 0.25645457 = 2.3081 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 23:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 2 @ 0.51144329 = 1.0229 BTC [+]
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Oct 26 23:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080T] 8 @ 0.13687592 = 1.095 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 00:04:39 <sgornick>	So at the end of the MPOE options month the balance simply gets updated?  There's no transaction record describing the amount paid for each option held through expiration?
Oct 27 00:14:58 <smickles>	sgornick: indeed
Oct 27 00:15:15 <smickles>	it's straightforward to figure out if you want to tho
Oct 27 00:15:36 <smickles>	they matured with a 'spot' price of 10.28
Oct 27 00:16:29 <sgornick>	> for the record, month close happend on 1351296001
Oct 27 00:16:33 <sgornick>	what does that mean?
Oct 27 00:16:50 <rg>	that's unixtime
Oct 27 00:16:55 <smickles>	that's the time whenthe matured, i believe
Oct 27 00:18:44 <sgornick>	Ah  ... got it.  GMT: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:00:01 GMT
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Oct 27 00:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5219 @ 0.0004692 = 2.4488 BTC [-]
Oct 27 00:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27154 @ 0.00046912 = 12.7385 BTC [-]
Oct 27 00:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19027 @ 0.00046891 = 8.922 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 00:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31652 @ 0.00046891 = 14.8419 BTC [-]
Oct 27 00:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12548 @ 0.00046865 = 5.8806 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 01:13:36 <BTC-Mining>	Well anyone selling BitVPS shares?
Oct 27 01:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9052 @ 0.00046865 = 4.2422 BTC [-]
Oct 27 01:14:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 208 @ 0.0004686 = 0.0975 BTC [-]
Oct 27 01:15:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1 @ 0.96366667 BTC [+]
Oct 27 01:18:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0032491 = 3.2491 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 01:37:17 <mod6>	ugh, seems ye ole irc host is having some rolling disconnects :<
Oct 27 01:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00047193 = 11.1375 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 01:50:39 <rg>	mod6
Oct 27 01:50:42 <rg>	its not bitvps is it?
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Oct 27 01:54:12 <mod6>	rg: ah, no!  just my buddies thing, its usually pretty stable
Oct 27 01:54:39 <mod6>	:}
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Oct 27 02:01:16 <rg>	lol ok
Oct 27 02:01:18 <rg>	panic averted.
Oct 27 02:07:54 <mod6>	hah, no worries :)
Oct 27 02:08:25 <mod6>	i really shouldn't even bitch at all, the guy has provided me with a 99.9999999% uptime shell for like 10 years.
Oct 27 02:08:29 <mod6>	haha
Oct 27 02:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13192 @ 0.0004686 = 6.1818 BTC [-]
Oct 27 02:09:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4208 @ 0.00046854 = 1.9716 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 02:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39100 @ 0.00047031 = 18.3891 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 02:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 5 @ 0.23775058 = 1.1888 BTC [+]
Oct 27 02:57:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 10 @ 0.20376726 = 2.0377 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 03:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26471 @ 0.00046854 = 12.4027 BTC [-]
Oct 27 03:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00046754 = 1.3694 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 03:48:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00046754 = 6.1248 BTC [-]
Oct 27 04:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00046906 = 1.5479 BTC [+]
Oct 27 04:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00047031 = 1.505 BTC [+]
Oct 27 04:15:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00047193 = 2.5484 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 04:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20273 @ 0.00047193 = 9.5674 BTC [+]
Oct 27 04:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 226 @ 0.00047548 = 0.1075 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 04:53:02 <EskimoBob>	any ideas what is going on with the BTC price?
Oct 27 04:54:19 <mircea_popescu>	bitinstant closed down ; some other service closed down
Oct 27 04:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	some people added significant hashpower and are probably selling the btc
Oct 27 04:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	Network total	31.378 Thash/s
Oct 27 04:54:49 <mircea_popescu>	went up 25% past few days
Oct 27 04:56:53 <EskimoBob>	are ASIC test versions coming online?
Oct 27 04:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Oct 27 04:59:48 <EskimoBob>	bitinstant? in google search I can see "BitInstant.com is currently down due to site revisions. All orders placed up to this point will process as normal. If you have any questions or issues feel free to ..." but when I go to the site, it looks OK
Oct 27 05:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	yea, i think they may be up already
Oct 27 05:01:23 <mircea_popescu>	but the point is, two things take out usd from mkt, one thing adds more btc
Oct 27 05:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	price has to plumet. supply and demand.
Oct 27 05:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00046754 = 12.4833 BTC [-]
Oct 27 05:09:51 <mircea_popescu>	jurov mod6 statjson now includes exercises list too.
Oct 27 05:19:54 <sgornick>	mircea_popescu: Is the absense of recallable transaction history strategic, or just "haven't gotten to it"?
Oct 27 05:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean recallable transaction history ?
Oct 27 05:20:34 <sgornick>	Can I right now view all of my October transactions?
Oct 27 05:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	if you kept all your october stats responses
Oct 27 05:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	or if you never issued a stat in october, issue one and it's there
Oct 27 05:20:57 <sgornick>	heh, ya, that's what I mean.
Oct 27 05:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	ya, mpex is not doing your accounting, you have to do that part yourself.
Oct 27 05:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	(or use a broker that offers that service)
Oct 27 05:22:42 <sgornick>	How about transactions showing the exercise of options at expiration?  Planned, or DIY?
Oct 27 05:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	this was just added in the statjson
Oct 27 05:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	the plain stat is scheduled for an overhaul, but this won't happen for a while yet to give people who are using it atm to provide 3rd party services to migrate to statjson first
Oct 27 05:24:28 <sgornick>	ok, I'll look at statjson.
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Oct 27 05:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	so did they let roger ver go yet ? anyone know ?
Oct 27 05:26:16 <sgornick>	Enroute to HK, though may still need to return to JP.
Oct 27 05:26:23 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Oct 27 05:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	people keep fearmongering re the us government, but my intel shows the chinese govt will be our real enemy.
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Oct 27 05:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3636 @ 0.00046754 = 1.7 BTC [-]
Oct 27 05:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9451 @ 0.00046727 = 4.4162 BTC [-]
Oct 27 05:31:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22313 @ 0.00046693 = 10.4186 BTC [-]
Oct 27 05:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120758.0 << also worthy of notice. one can now make his own copies of mpex db
Oct 27 05:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick ^^
Oct 27 05:49:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Oct 27 05:49:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 5 @ 0.09390123 = 0.4695 BTC [-]
Oct 27 05:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 7 @ 0.26 = 1.82 BTC [+]
Oct 27 05:54:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 3 @ 0.09388415 = 0.2817 BTC [-]
Oct 27 05:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 27 05:55:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.27935, Best ask: 10.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02065, Last trade: 10.27935, 24 hour volume: 99354.61716662, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.79978, 24 hour vwap: 10.20092
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Oct 27 06:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	https://ferroh.com/charts pretty cool
Oct 27 06:03:28 *	smickles should be asleep already, like 3 hours ago
Oct 27 06:03:40 <smickles>	but those darn options
Oct 27 06:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol what about them ?
Oct 27 06:04:04 <smickles>	there fun to look at and think about
Oct 27 06:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	ehehe
Oct 27 06:08:30 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you know, i've been wondering, if someone setup a short straddle at the money with something like 20000 contracts on each leg, do you think it would stabilize the exchange rate for a while?
Oct 27 06:08:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.96946805 = 969.4681 BTC [+]
Oct 27 06:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Oct 27 06:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	inasmuch as if they would have otherwise sold/bought on the mtgox market for sure.
Oct 27 06:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.87084465 = 870.8447 BTC [+]
Oct 27 06:11:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.77222124 = 772.2212 BTC [+]
Oct 27 06:11:38 <smickles>	woah
Oct 27 06:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1000 @ 0.67359784 = 673.5978 BTC [+]
Oct 27 06:11:43 <smickles>	those are real?
Oct 27 06:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	heh table investor.
Oct 27 06:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.57497444 = 574.9744 BTC [+]
Oct 27 06:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	i guess someone figures the btc goes up.
Oct 27 06:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.47635104 = 476.351 BTC [+]
Oct 27 06:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.40221678 = 402.2168 BTC [+]
Oct 27 06:13:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.33756736 = 337.5674 BTC [-]
Oct 27 06:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1000 @ 0.27658406 = 276.5841 BTC [+]
Oct 27 06:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 1000 @ 0.22015212 = 220.1521 BTC [+]
Oct 27 06:14:21 <mircea_popescu>	nice way to start the month
Oct 27 06:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	now i can be worried sick for the next five weeks ;/
Oct 27 06:15:01 <smickles>	;;calc 12 / ((.27658406 * .998) +1)
Oct 27 06:15:02 <gribble>	9.40416104058
Oct 27 06:15:44 <smickles>	;;calc 11 / ((.22015212 * .998) +1)
Oct 27 06:15:45 <gribble>	9.01852376756
Oct 27 06:16:04 <smickles>	;;calc 13 / ((.33756736 * .998) +1)
Oct 27 06:16:05 <gribble>	9.72404488124
Oct 27 06:16:42 <smickles>	;;calc 14 / ((.40221678 * .998) +1)
Oct 27 06:16:42 <gribble>	9.98992197804
Oct 27 06:17:01 <mircea_popescu>	what's that like inverse premium ?
Oct 27 06:17:06 <smickles>	;;calc 15 / ((.47635104 * .998) +1)
Oct 27 06:17:06 <gribble>	10.166745898
Oct 27 06:17:21 <smickles>	should be breakeve numbers (in usd)
Oct 27 06:17:51 <smickles>	;;calc 16 / ((.57497444 * .998) +1)
Oct 27 06:17:52 <gribble>	10.1663178393
Oct 27 06:18:11 <smickles>	;;calc 17 / ((.67359784 * .998) +1)
Oct 27 06:18:12 <gribble>	10.1659401704
Oct 27 06:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	these were sales tho
Oct 27 06:18:28 <smickles>	;;calc 18 / ((.77222124 * .998) +1)
Oct 27 06:18:28 <gribble>	10.1656044882
Oct 27 06:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	it hit the bid price across the board
Oct 27 06:18:42 <smickles>	;;calc 19 / ((.87084465 * .998) +1)
Oct 27 06:18:42 <gribble>	10.1653041055
Oct 27 06:18:54 <smickles>	;;calc 20 / ((.96946805 * .998) +1)
Oct 27 06:18:54 <gribble>	10.1650338278
Oct 27 06:21:55 <smickles>	;;calc 9.40416104058+9.01852376756+9.72404488124+9.98992197804+10.166745898+10.1663178393+10.1659401704+10.1656044882+10.1653041055+10.1650338278
Oct 27 06:21:56 <gribble>	99.1315979966
Oct 27 06:22:17 <smickles>	so they make btc down to 9.14
Oct 27 06:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	yea, if it doesn't kiss nine they're golden.
Oct 27 06:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	then again... month is long.
Oct 27 06:23:48 <smickles>	ballzy
Oct 27 06:24:27 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: does you bot adjust based on what it has bought and holds?
Oct 27 06:24:33 <mircea_popescu>	if it's one of the people who sold a lot in the dump it makes sense
Oct 27 06:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	smickles no.
Oct 27 06:25:02 <smickles>	wow, shouldn't it?
Oct 27 06:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Oct 27 06:26:53 <smickles>	shouldn't it adjust prices to try to acheive the most time resistant neutral position?, that way you can take advantage of the imbalance in the bot's portfolio and offer better prices to the opposing positions and worse prices to the ones that add more risk to you
Oct 27 06:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	how would it know what's more time-resistant neutral position ?
Oct 27 06:27:44 <smickles>	the greeks, assuming you have a volatility estimate
Oct 27 06:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	i don't want to introduce feedback.
Oct 27 06:28:01 <mircea_popescu>	atm i have the capital to anchor. if it becomes a problem and the bot is too often sold out
Oct 27 06:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	then i'd prolly prefer adding more capital than following the mkt
Oct 27 06:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	what you're saying does make sense, in general. just, btc is yet too low volume and i don't trust half the quant analysis results
Oct 27 06:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	and i also don't know which half i don't trust.
Oct 27 06:30:36 <smickles>	you wouldn't need to trust either, you should be able to encourage people to buy and sell your bot into a positon that makes btc when the market moves up down or sideways
Oct 27 06:31:14 <smickles>	like right now, with this idea, it should offer a worse price for all those puts, and a better price on the related calls
Oct 27 06:31:37 <mircea_popescu>	the rational thing for people to do is go in the midmarket imo
Oct 27 06:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, if you believe this you can go put your own CALL offers in there, neh ?
Oct 27 06:33:20 <smickles>	well, it doesn't work so well if you run out of capital to hedge with :(
Oct 27 06:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	so start a fund :p
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Oct 27 06:34:16 <smickles>	well, i suppose i do already have half of the code for just such a bot already written
Oct 27 06:34:27 <smickles>	what's this statjson i heard mentioned?
Oct 27 06:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	you know... stat in json
Oct 27 06:36:18 <Diablo-D3>	so
Oct 27 06:36:19 <Diablo-D3>	whatsup
Oct 27 06:36:49 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: so i could parse the stat easily?
Oct 27 06:36:53 <smickles>	i might make this bot then
Oct 27 06:37:33 <smickles>	how do i get at it?
Oct 27 06:37:36 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: hiya
Oct 27 06:38:09 <Diablo-D3>	anything interesting happen?
Oct 27 06:39:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1971 @ 0.00046693 = 0.9203 BTC [-]
Oct 27 06:40:58 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: check out these lovely formulas http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greeks_(finance)#Formulas_for_vanilla_option_Greeks
Oct 27 06:41:10 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: a bitinstant guy was detained
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Oct 27 06:41:57 <jurov>	lol, it went out of scale: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-2k.png
Oct 27 06:42:03 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: er, why?
Oct 27 06:42:39 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: a stamp was in the wrong place, apparently
Oct 27 06:42:47 <Diablo-D3>	wtf?
Oct 27 06:42:51 <smickles>	jurov: awesome
Oct 27 06:43:43 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: the hell?
Oct 27 06:43:53 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: srsly
Oct 27 06:44:31 <Diablo-D3>	a stamp for what?
Oct 27 06:44:45 <smickles>	some sort of international travel thing
Oct 27 06:46:40 *	smickles sleep, must sleep
Oct 27 06:48:50 <kakobreklaaa>	;;bc,diff
Oct 27 06:48:50 <gribble>	3072321.7320208
Oct 27 06:48:55 <kakobreklaaa>	;;bc,stats
Oct 27 06:48:56 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 205220 | Current Difficulty: 3072321.7320208 | Next Difficulty At Block: 205631 | Next Difficulty In: 411 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 15 hours, 14 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3265289.61742921 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.28084889018
Oct 27 07:04:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00046734 = 5.5613 BTC [+]
Oct 27 07:05:14 <mircea_popescu>	smickles you go STATJSON lol
Oct 27 07:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell btc-mining http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-2k.png check this out going out of scale :D
Oct 27 07:05:51 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Oct 27 07:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 roger ver was detained in macau airport. apparently is on his way to hk atm
Oct 27 07:06:49 <mircea_popescu>	spent about a day and a half in airport detention. maybe he pulled a nefario, it's unclear yet.
Oct 27 07:10:35 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Oct 27 07:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.96946805 = 969.4681 BTC [+]
Oct 27 07:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.87084465 = 870.8447 BTC [+]
Oct 27 07:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	o boy round 2
Oct 27 07:11:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.77222124 = 772.2212 BTC [+]
Oct 27 07:12:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.57497444 = 574.9744 BTC [+]
Oct 27 07:12:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1000 @ 0.67359784 = 673.5978 BTC [+]
Oct 27 07:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.47635104 = 476.351 BTC [+]
Oct 27 07:12:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.40206278 = 402.0628 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 07:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.33741273 = 337.4127 BTC [-]
Oct 27 07:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1000 @ 0.27643033 = 276.4303 BTC [-]
Oct 27 07:13:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 1000 @ 0.22000167 = 220.0017 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 07:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10916 @ 0.00046693 = 5.097 BTC [-]
Oct 27 07:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7784 @ 0.00046665 = 3.6324 BTC [-]
Oct 27 07:41:36 <jurov>	hmmmm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120759.0;topicseen
Oct 27 07:42:15 <jurov>	SEC needs you
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Oct 27 07:48:08 <mircea_popescu>	Maybe Phil will even sign up and answer your questions (but that may be a conflict of interest for him).
Oct 27 07:48:11 <mircea_popescu>	what da fuck ?!
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Oct 27 07:55:47 <rg>	hm
Oct 27 07:55:54 <rg>	that's the guy who messaged me on bitcointalk
Oct 27 07:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	"I also just got off the phone with Philip Moustakis.  Nice guy.  We chatted for about an hour."
Oct 27 07:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	i find it incredible the guy finds the time.
Oct 27 08:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00046734 = 5.795 BTC [+]
Oct 27 08:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20635 @ 0.0004697 = 9.6923 BTC [+]
Oct 27 08:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 27 08:04:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.41001, Best ask: 10.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 10.41000, 24 hour volume: 104809.98028766, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.70000, 24 hour vwap: 10.20577
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Oct 27 08:30:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00046665 = 14.7461 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 08:52:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 10 @ 0.23473016 = 2.3473 BTC [-]
Oct 27 08:56:34 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Oct 27 08:56:51 <Diablo-D3>	BitcoinINV on the forums might be luke
Oct 27 08:56:54 <Diablo-D3>	he claims hes catholic
Oct 27 09:03:24 <OneMiner>	hahaha *shifty eyes*
Oct 27 09:04:14 <OneMiner>	I know a hard core catholic in real life. Teaches in a school, guys great but he's soooo hard core right wing. It's a trip to talk to him.
Oct 27 09:04:36 <OneMiner>	It's also hard to know for sure what he's thinkning, he laughs a lot so it throws me.
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Oct 27 09:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2038 @ 0.00046665 = 0.951 BTC [-]
Oct 27 09:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33799 @ 0.00046661 = 15.771 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 09:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00046662 = 3.033 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 10:03:41 <PsychoticBoy>	Network total	29.388 Thash/s
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Oct 27 10:04:48 <FabianB>	how do i calculate if a price for an option is good?
Oct 27 10:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00046662 = 9.519 BTC [+]
Oct 27 10:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9801 @ 0.00046661 = 4.5732 BTC [-]
Oct 27 10:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9574 @ 0.00046642 = 4.4655 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 10:34:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00046642 = 0.7929 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 10:59:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00046707 = 3.3162 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 11:15:22 <EskimoBob>	OneMiner: I have forgotten, what is the difference between right and left wing
Oct 27 11:16:24 <EskimoBob>	FabianB_: define "good". Do you mean "in the money" ?
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Oct 27 11:23:48 <rdponticelli>	EskimoBob: The only difference between left and right wing is who and what they put the blame on
Oct 27 11:24:29 <rdponticelli>	And usually they default to put the blame just on the other
Oct 27 11:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19352 @ 0.00046642 = 9.0262 BTC [-]
Oct 27 11:24:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25262 @ 0.00046634 = 11.7807 BTC [-]
Oct 27 11:27:27 <EskimoBob>	rdponticelli: so what is the meaning of "right wing" now days?
Oct 27 11:27:56 <rdponticelli>	It would be just the opposite meaning to left wing
Oct 27 11:28:12 <rdponticelli>	Which is just the opposite meaning to right wing
Oct 27 11:28:16 <rdponticelli>	That's all
Oct 27 11:28:22 <rdponticelli>	End of differences
Oct 27 11:28:26 <rdponticelli>	;)
Oct 27 11:32:20 <FabianB_>	EskimoBob: well, let's take this for example: http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C100T what explains the spread beween 0.27739606 and 0.18189906?
Oct 27 11:41:52 <EskimoBob>	mpex? pfff... who knows. I'll stay away as far as possible
Oct 27 11:50:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22738 @ 0.00046634 = 10.6036 BTC [-]
Oct 27 11:50:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5562 @ 0.00046548 = 2.589 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 12:15:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00046707 = 12.1438 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 12:24:48 <jurov>	FabianB_, I guess it's explained by uncertainty. they want to have some room for bot's prices to move
Oct 27 12:27:30 <FabianB_>	jurov: so it wouldn't make sense to buy at that price unless one expects big usd-btc price changes?
Oct 27 12:30:14 <jurov>	yes, they are priced so that the breakeven point is usually few btc away from strike
Oct 27 12:30:22 <jurov>	now where do i have the formulas
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Oct 27 12:32:09 <FabianB_>	my guess was that with C100 and 10 usd strike break even would be 0.1
Oct 27 12:32:16 <FabianB_>	but i guess that's way off
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Oct 27 12:39:35 <jurov>	no, call option profits when price *rises*... when BTCUSD price is X, you will get (X-10)/X when exercising one C100 option
Oct 27 12:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00046707 = 0.4204 BTC [+]
Oct 27 12:42:07 <jurov>	so if you buy now at 0.277 , the price must be larger than ~13.7 for you to profitably exercise
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Oct 27 12:43:38 <FabianB_>	ok, so for C110 it would be (x-11)/x
Oct 27 12:44:48 <jurov>	yes
Oct 27 12:45:41 <jurov>	and exact breakeven for calls is at strike/(1-buyprice)
Oct 27 12:46:19 <FabianB_>	trying to figure out if it makes sense to buy options if i buy something with btc today (at a usd price), but in the end don't want to have less btc in my wallet, so buyin new btc few days later
Oct 27 12:46:37 <FabianB_>	but expect price between now and in 4 days to rise
Oct 27 12:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	if you expect price to rise then you want either long puts or short calls
Oct 27 12:48:17 <FabianB_>	hmm.. what if i dont care which way prices go, i just want to have same amount of btc in the end
Oct 27 12:48:41 <FabianB_>	but since fiat -> mtgox takes a while, i don't know how much fiat i have to send to mtgox
Oct 27 12:49:02 <FabianB_>	so buying an insurance for price change would make sense
Oct 27 12:49:46 <mircea_popescu>	but in what you say is implicit you do care which way prices go. that's why buying insurance for price changes makes sense.
Oct 27 12:50:09 <FabianB_>	hmm.. ur right
Oct 27 12:50:44 <FabianB_>	price falling would be nice for me anyway, rising price would get me less btc if i don't hv options
Oct 27 12:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 27 12:51:55 <sgornick>	mircea_popescu: Anticipating an "October results" post: in "Investing in Mircea Popescu's Options Emporium" http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg1230888#msg1230888
Oct 27 12:52:06 <FabianB_>	if i have 100 btc now, spend 10 btc now and coz current price is 10 usd i send 100 usd to mtgox which will arive in a few days
Oct 27 12:52:16 <jurov>	mircea, why long puts in this case? they will get cheaper if btcusd rises, no?
Oct 27 12:52:16 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick but the results are out since this morn ?
Oct 27 12:52:32 <mircea_popescu>	jurov bah i fucked up.
Oct 27 12:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ you want long calls/short puts
Oct 27 12:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	dyslexia ><
Oct 27 12:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-october-2012-statement/ << sgornick
Oct 27 12:53:21 <FabianB_>	so if usd price is at 12 in 4 days i could calculate what kind of long call i should buy to insure that
Oct 27 12:53:22 <sgornick>	A good place for the results to also be posted would be in that thread.
Oct 27 12:54:26 <jurov>	FabianB_, i guess none of currently offered mpoe calls will be profitable at 12
Oct 27 12:54:54 <FabianB_>	so options only make sens with big price changes?
Oct 27 12:54:54 <jurov>	unless there's some gentlemen who creates some for you ar such price
Oct 27 12:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick i guess you have a point. i recently switched my blog from romanian to english, so i kinda intend to make it the source for results. but i guess a link can't hurt anything.
Oct 27 12:56:33 <jurov>	fabian, i'd rephrase it so that nobody dares to offer them at better price
Oct 27 12:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 27 12:57:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.46505, Best ask: 10.51980, Bid-ask spread: 0.05475, Last trade: 10.46502, 24 hour volume: 96030.81201998, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.83883, 24 hour vwap: 10.18519
Oct 27 12:57:18 <FabianB_>	ok, many ppl expect it to go towards 12 again
Oct 27 12:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 8 / 12
Oct 27 12:57:24 <gribble>	0.666666666667
Oct 27 12:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	sell 1 O.BTCUSD.P200T for 0.96946805 atm
Oct 27 12:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	at 12 they're only worth .66, meaning a 50% profit
Oct 27 12:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	well, ~50 anyway
Oct 27 12:59:35 <mircea_popescu>	but in general : big price swings are better served by long positions. fine price movements are better served by short positions.
Oct 27 13:00:14 <FabianB_>	hmm
Oct 27 13:00:16 <FabianB_>	ic
Oct 27 13:03:56 <FabianB_>	so i guess on traditional forex options have smaller price differences, coz e.g. usd<->eur price changes are smaller
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Oct 27 13:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00046597 = 2.2833 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 13:06:51 <mircea_popescu>	yes volatility is a large consideration
Oct 27 13:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	you don't often see eur gaining 5% over usd in 24 hours
Oct 27 13:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	this has happened like i dunno, a dozen time in btc this year
Oct 27 13:07:37 <jurov>	i'm in a bit of a risky mood and don't think price will be back at 12 in 4 days, would create approriate options for you as a proper broker would... but my head is spinning already
Oct 27 13:07:40 <FabianB_>	yeah
Oct 27 13:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	an important point tho is that you don't HAVE to take the bot offers
Oct 27 13:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	you can put your own bids/asks in the midmarket too
Oct 27 13:08:05 <FabianB_>	hehe, jurov, it was just an example now
Oct 27 13:08:17 <FabianB_>	but maybe i'll get back to that jurov if i really need it
Oct 27 13:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	so baked in is a convenience cost too. people don't seem to be doing nearly enough of their own offering, much prefering the instant execution of bot offer.
Oct 27 13:10:29 <FabianB_>	thinking about if btc would be worth if i'm a producer of some goods e.g. in china, for shippment to eur/us, e.g. payment in btc now, shippment in europe arives 40 days later, btc price in that time probably moved a lot
Oct 27 13:10:32 <jurov>	someday i ought to do myself few cups of extra strong coffee and do the maths...
Oct 27 13:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ would most definitely be worth it in that scenario.
Oct 27 13:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	cutting out the (significant) bank fees for letters of credit
Oct 27 13:11:56 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: yeah, that's cutting the bank fees, but introduces the risk of volatility, if i don't use option insurance
Oct 27 13:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	but out of the bank savings you can buy a lot of options insurance.
Oct 27 13:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	and you get all the other advantages of btc
Oct 27 13:12:31 <FabianB_>	probably
Oct 27 13:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	(such as, for instance, if the company goes bankrupt you can't be clawbacked
Oct 27 13:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	as the simplest and most common example)
Oct 27 13:14:40 <FabianB_>	and instant transaction etc., can send the goods next day and not in 10 days when international wire arives..
Oct 27 13:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	most int'l commerce isn't paid by wire.
Oct 27 13:15:15 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: what's the usual?
Oct 27 13:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	letters of credit
Oct 27 13:16:19 <FabianB_>	and then they do bulk transfer?
Oct 27 13:16:36 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean bulk transfer?
Oct 27 13:16:53 <FabianB_>	well, credit needs to be executed some time
Oct 27 13:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;google letter of credit
Oct 27 13:17:26 <gribble>	Letter of credit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_credit>; Letter Of Credit Definition | Investopedia: <http://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/letterofcredit.asp>; Letter of Credit - How Letters of Credit Work: <http://banking.about.com/od/businessbanking/a/letterofcredit.htm>
Oct 27 13:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	it's a system sorta similar to an escrow deal
Oct 27 13:17:50 *	FabianB_ 's reading.
Oct 27 13:21:14 <FabianB_>	so the 3rd party (bank) just hands it over to some other bank, or buys currency at the forex market for it or something
Oct 27 13:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	something like that
Oct 27 13:23:16 <FabianB_>	probably has big fees too
Oct 27 13:24:32 <mircea_popescu>	kinda, ya/
Oct 27 13:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	it's inconvenient and really mostly a relic from the pre ww2 days
Oct 27 13:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	one of the first things bitcoin will be killing.
Oct 27 13:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	provided, of course, the fucking chinese stop hussling people at macau.
Oct 27 13:25:19 <FabianB_>	yeah, traditional banks suck at international money transfer
Oct 27 13:25:52 <FabianB_>	is there more to read on that macau story?
Oct 27 13:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik
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Oct 27 13:27:31 <FabianB_>	macau is like hong kong an SAR, so the chinese central gov shouldn't have much to do with it
Oct 27 13:28:16 <mircea_popescu>	heh that's just a theory. in practice, they're very involved.
Oct 27 13:28:33 <FabianB_>	well, depends on which kind of question
Oct 27 13:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=81939.msg902620#msg902620 teh bitcoin history...
Oct 27 13:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1608 @ 0.00046548 = 0.7485 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 13:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120758.msg1301670#msg1301670 what do you mean ?
Oct 27 13:38:50 <sgornick>	mircea_popescu: If I used for trading on MPEx my main GPG key that I use for WoT (and  has my e-mail address), can someone figure out what assets I own?
Oct 27 13:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	not unless either some servers are seriously broken into or someone cracks gpg
Oct 27 13:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	(or pgp)
Oct 27 13:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand, if you use a properly set up anon key nobody can ever figure it out, even if they owned all the servers in the world.
Oct 27 13:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	(also, you can link to specific sections in the faq by c/p ing the question number link)
Oct 27 13:44:44 <sgornick>	> you can link to specific sections in the faq   <--  Fixed.
Oct 27 13:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	more like an "in general". that thing's monstrously large by now
Oct 27 13:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	i'd much prefer something a page or two long but it doesn't seem possible
Oct 27 13:48:11 *	Gladamas is now known as nano_tube
Oct 27 13:48:19 *	nano_tube is now known as nanotuibe
Oct 27 13:48:37 *	nanotuibe is now known as Santahh
Oct 27 13:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 27 13:51:01 *	Santahh is now known as Gladamas
Oct 27 13:55:58 <sgornick>	mpex.py needs an option to specify which key to sign with   --   for gpg.encrypt( , ,  sign=signer_fingerprint)
Oct 27 13:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	add it :D
Oct 27 13:57:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30430 @ 0.00046548 = 14.1646 BTC [-]
Oct 27 13:57:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14270 @ 0.00046529 = 6.6397 BTC [-]
Oct 27 13:59:46 <jurov>	sgornick, python-gnupg does not support that, sorry
Oct 27 14:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	you can't select key ?!
Oct 27 14:00:14 <jurov>	nope
Oct 27 14:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	so if you have two which one does it pick ?
Oct 27 14:00:30 <jurov>	the default one
Oct 27 14:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	so then bash script to cyhange the default
Oct 27 14:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	i hax!
Oct 27 14:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	actually there was a nightmare situation with one customer who somehow changed his default key in between having it registered and sending the first payment
Oct 27 14:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	and subsequent orders
Oct 27 14:01:56 <mircea_popescu>	took a coupla days to figure out wtf.
Oct 27 14:01:59 <jurov>	i needed the second key to be used in chroot anyway so i did not hax around it
Oct 27 14:03:04 <sgornick>	jurov: Any guess why the doc shows it?  http://packages.python.org/python-gnupg/#using-signing-and-encryption-together
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Oct 27 14:04:18 <jurov>	i don't remember, it was months ago... but as you see, at least on decryption you don't have any parameter there
Oct 27 14:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	i think that's a new version of a diff branch jurov
Oct 27 14:04:23 <jurov>	to choose the key
Oct 27 14:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	iirc the pympex uses prev python
Oct 27 14:05:02 <mircea_popescu>	2.2 vs 2.4 or 3.2 vs 3.4 or w/e something like that
Oct 27 14:05:43 <jurov>	the you can answer here if you want some karma: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10681563/how-to-choose-encryption-decryption-key-in-python-gnupg
Oct 27 14:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	actually... it might be time someone makes a pympex port for the latest python
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Oct 27 14:06:56 *	pirateat40 is now known as Guest71211
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Oct 27 14:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 29630 @ 0.003375 = 100.0013 BTC [-]
Oct 27 14:10:29 <BTC-Mining>	Hmm... I see a pirate
Oct 27 14:10:58 <BTC-Mining>	Oh wait, no, it's just Gladamas disguised for Halloween.
Oct 27 14:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	did pirate release the list of depositor names and emails yet ?
Oct 27 14:11:31 <Gladamas>	heh
Oct 27 14:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	no wait, that was the ppt i mean eh...
Oct 27 14:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	BITCOIN WAS WRITTEN BY THE US SIT-COM CONSPIRACY
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Oct 27 14:14:52 <BTC-Mining>	The Universe was created by The Conspirator. It's just one huge conspiracy.
Oct 27 14:15:09 <BTC-Mining>	Everything is conspiracy.
Oct 27 14:15:49 <Gladamas>	http://phys.org/news/2012-10-real-physicists-method-universe-simulation.html
Oct 27 14:16:13 <mircea_popescu>	your conspiratorial attempts to fool me into believing your conspiracies fail.
Oct 27 14:19:46 <BTC-Mining>	Worry not, for it make no difference whatsoever because everything is nothing and nothing is everything and nothing. It's all in your head. Be sure to keep it in there! Here, take a tinfoil hat.
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Oct 27 14:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	is it certified ?
Oct 27 14:20:52 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, by self-certifying conspirators.
Oct 27 14:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	sounds legit.
Oct 27 14:21:55 <BTC-Mining>	Everyone are self-certifying conspirators. All truths are different and contradictory, but all truths nevertheless.
Oct 27 14:23:18 <BTC-Mining>	[14:15] <Gladamas> http://phys.org/news/2012-10-real-physicists-method-universe-simulation.html
Oct 27 14:24:19 <BTC-Mining>	"Of course, any conclusions resulting from such work would be limited by the possibility that everything we think we understand about quantum chromodynamics, or simulations for that matter, could be flawed."
Oct 27 14:25:28 <BTC-Mining>	That... we basically can't prove if what we see is a simulation or not while testing and measuring from inside the simulation based on our knowledge of simulations.
Oct 27 14:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is old as dirt.
Oct 27 14:26:10 <BTC-Mining>	We wouldn't know how things work outside the simulation.
Oct 27 14:30:24 <BTC-Mining>	And even if it's not a simulation... It's a universe with particles and a set of rules how they interact... It's basically the same as a simulation, but in more complex.
Oct 27 14:31:18 <BTC-Mining>	Simulation or not, seems like the same thing...
Oct 27 14:32:54 <rdponticelli>	Welcome to agnosticism
Oct 27 14:34:10 <BTC-Mining>	Godammit
Oct 27 14:34:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15030 @ 0.00046529 = 6.9933 BTC [-]
Oct 27 14:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00046499 = 9.7183 BTC [-]
Oct 27 14:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00046477 = 4.4153 BTC [-]
Oct 27 14:34:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8412 @ 0.00046475 = 3.9095 BTC [-]
Oct 27 14:35:38 <BTC-Mining>	But I guess that would most closely define myself.
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Oct 27 14:42:09 <BTC-Mining>	hmm, Windows 8 looks like THE shit. ("shit" being used pejoratively)
Oct 27 14:42:37 <BTC-Mining>	Thank you for spamming my Live inbox, Microsoft.
Oct 27 14:45:04 <BTC-Mining>	Seriously... what good is an OS where I can't have a clusterfuck of icons on a desktop?
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Oct 27 14:49:07 <Diablo-D3>	<xfce> ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: NO ICONS
Oct 27 14:49:28 <BTC-Mining>	ahahahah
Oct 27 14:50:18 <mircea_popescu>	<BTC-Mining> hmm, Windows 8 looks like THE shit. << that means great.
Oct 27 14:50:26 <mircea_popescu>	you say "like shit" if you want it to be pejorative
Oct 27 14:50:44 <BTC-Mining>	No, THE shit, litteral meaning
Oct 27 14:51:40 <BTC-Mining>	I have to use THE, meaning it's THE one.
Oct 27 14:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	i dun think english works that way
Oct 27 14:52:10 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, I have icons turned off
Oct 27 14:52:13 <Diablo-D3>	its fucking baus
Oct 27 14:52:31 <mircea_popescu>	i don't even use the desktop
Oct 27 14:52:31 <BTC-Mining>	Unfortunatly it conflicted with an idiom.
Oct 27 14:52:33 <mircea_popescu>	since i dunno, the 90s
Oct 27 14:52:57 <BTC-Mining>	How do you sort your files...
Oct 27 14:52:58 <Diablo-D3>	well, that, and my desktop background is http://miotd.com/images/20120604.jpg
Oct 27 14:53:02 <Diablo-D3>	so extra bausness
Oct 27 14:53:08 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well
Oct 27 14:53:09 <Diablo-D3>	to be fair
Oct 27 14:53:17 <Diablo-D3>	X exists to display multiple terms concurrently
Oct 27 14:53:18 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining by NAME
Oct 27 14:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	and by date and by size and by their mother's pedigree
Oct 27 14:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	desktops are for people who use like... smartphones and shit like that.
Oct 27 14:54:26 <BTC-Mining>	Yeah, but I mean, how do you find specific files?
Oct 27 14:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	find ?
Oct 27 14:54:42 <Diablo-D3>	find.
Oct 27 14:54:48 <mircea_popescu>	or else history
Oct 27 14:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	mostly history really.
Oct 27 14:54:55 <Diablo-D3>	its like a 40 year old command
Oct 27 14:54:58 <BTC-Mining>	Assuming you can't remember the name for every thousand files you have...
Oct 27 14:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	its older than most girls i fucked.
Oct 27 14:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	i run a file i can't remember the name of ?!
Oct 27 14:55:17 <Diablo-D3>	find -iname with globs.
Oct 27 14:55:18 <mircea_popescu>	what am i!
Oct 27 14:55:31 <BTC-Mining>	Find is only useful when you know the filename.
Oct 27 14:55:43 <mircea_popescu>	why am i running it if i don't know its filename!
Oct 27 14:56:56 <BTC-Mining>	I have that problem all the time. Web files, old game I want to play again, web images I want to get back editing on.
Oct 27 14:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	i dont remember when i last saw the desktop
Oct 27 14:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	and tbh i couldn't tell you what my image is
Oct 27 14:58:20 <BTC-Mining>	Eh. Well I order things on my desktop for easy access.
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Oct 27 14:59:26 <mircea_popescu>	diff people, diff styles
Oct 27 14:59:38 <mircea_popescu>	and some feet http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135136436045.jpg
Oct 27 15:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11610 @ 0.00046475 = 5.3957 BTC [-]
Oct 27 15:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25738 @ 0.00046474 = 11.9615 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 15:00:39 <BTC-Mining>	Well the problem with the desktop is files moving around when the screen resolution changes or moving files displacing other icons.
Oct 27 15:00:49 <BTC-Mining>	That and the desktop only have so many space...
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Oct 27 15:01:17 <BTC-Mining>	But there's fixes for that. Windows is quite customizable.
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Oct 27 15:12:01 <BTC-Mining>	Actually, let me get a screenshot of my desktop
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Oct 27 15:16:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.003375 = 67.5 BTC [-]
Oct 27 15:19:10 <BTC-Mining>	Damn image sharers...
Oct 27 15:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining use dtng :D
Oct 27 15:20:33 <BTC-Mining>	I ended up using imgur. It managed not to freeze near the end.
Oct 27 15:20:37 <BTC-Mining>	http://i.imgur.com/xzx1y.jpg
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Oct 27 15:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	too much shit
Oct 27 15:24:17 <BTC-Mining>	eh, but easy to access everything
Oct 27 15:24:44 <BTC-Mining>	I never really have to look around for what I want
Oct 27 15:28:00 <BTC-Mining>	I keep off the programs I don't use often but can at least remember the names for the start menu/search box.
Oct 27 15:28:42 <BTC-Mining>	For the rest, I just like to have organized folders, searching for files is too tedious.
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Oct 27 15:33:51 <kakobrekla>	sup
Oct 27 15:35:11 <BTC-Mining>	Not much
Oct 27 15:35:26 <BTC-Mining>	Waiting for Nefario to release assets data...
Oct 27 15:37:52 <kakobrekla>	hehe, love how mpex makes their dump public while people wait for nefario to wake up
Oct 27 15:37:59 <kakobrekla>	maybe he doesnt give a fuck anymore
Oct 27 15:39:37 <BTC-Mining>	He wants all double payments back and then processing payments before proceeding with releasing information I get it.
Oct 27 15:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33278 @ 0.00046479 = 15.4673 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 15:47:33 <JWU42>	yep - called him last week and he said the same...
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Oct 27 15:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	i suspect he just wants the attention at this point.
Oct 27 15:59:08 <kakobrekla>	http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adapteva/parallella-a-supercomputer-for-everyone
Oct 27 15:59:14 <kakobrekla>	darn im really tempted, 2 hrs to go
Oct 27 16:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	5k backers and 70k over target in 2 houyrs ?
Oct 27 16:04:11 <kakobrekla>	hm
Oct 27 16:04:14 <kakobrekla>	120k over target
Oct 27 16:04:38 <kakobrekla>	twas 100k short just the other day
Oct 27 16:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	why does it say 117 minutes ?
Oct 27 16:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	is that like time left or something ?
Oct 27 16:07:10 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Oct 27 16:07:16 <Diablo-D3>	it clearly says MINUTES TO GO
Oct 27 16:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6622 @ 0.00046479 = 3.0778 BTC [+]
Oct 27 16:07:29 <Diablo-D3>	I dont really see a point in this though
Oct 27 16:07:35 <Diablo-D3>	parallel computing is already accessable to the masses
Oct 27 16:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i cnat raed
Oct 27 16:07:43 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: APPARENTLY NOT
Oct 27 16:07:48 <Diablo-D3>	TOO MUCH MASTURBATION IS BAD FOR THE EYES
Oct 27 16:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	zero tolerence
Oct 27 16:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	resses is my roll modal
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Oct 27 16:17:40 <BTC-Mining>	Once completed, the 64-core version of the Parallella computer would deliver over 90 GFLOPS of performance and would have the the horse power comparable to a theoretical 45 GHz CPU
Oct 27 16:18:09 <BTC-Mining>	1500$ for 2 x 64 cores board...
Oct 27 16:18:15 <BTC-Mining>	Seems cheap...
Oct 27 16:19:19 <Diablo-D3>	yeah uh
Oct 27 16:19:22 <Diablo-D3>	I do that on my 7970.
Oct 27 16:19:26 <kakobrekla>	accually its 99$
Oct 27 16:19:36 <kakobrekla>	burning like 2 watts
Oct 27 16:19:50 <Diablo-D3>	they make GCNs that small
Oct 27 16:19:52 <BTC-Mining>	That sounds cheaper
Oct 27 16:20:00 <Diablo-D3>	well, maybe not that low of wattage
Oct 27 16:20:09 <Diablo-D3>	but high performance memory burns watts
Oct 27 16:20:22 <kakobrekla>	jeez, who are you talking to Diablo-D3
Oct 27 16:20:22 <BTC-Mining>	They're going to be 100$?
Oct 27 16:20:26 <kakobrekla>	ye
Oct 27 16:20:29 <kakobrekla>	99$
Oct 27 16:20:46 <kakobrekla>	i pasted a link so you can read this shit
Oct 27 16:20:56 <BTC-Mining>	100$ for 90 GFLOPS? Sounds cheap.
Oct 27 16:20:56 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: you have btc-mining on ignore?
Oct 27 16:21:02 <kakobrekla>	no
Oct 27 16:21:22 <Diablo-D3>	then Im talking to him
Oct 27 16:21:22 <kakobrekla>	what does memory has to do with anything here
Oct 27 16:21:24 <Diablo-D3>	and you
Oct 27 16:21:28 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: oh, watts
Oct 27 16:21:42 <Diablo-D3>	the $100 gcn is more powerful, but uses more watts
Oct 27 16:21:50 <Diablo-D3>	I imagine parallella has shit for memory
Oct 27 16:22:03 <BTC-Mining>	I don't really know cheap tho. Just stating compared to standalone consumer CPU/GPU specs and price.
Oct 27 16:22:03 <Diablo-D3>	also, parallella sounds like a food
Oct 27 16:22:12 <Diablo-D3>	BTC-Mining: cheap isnt magically good
Oct 27 16:22:22 <Diablo-D3>	not when people can buy parallel hardware already
Oct 27 16:22:26 <Diablo-D3>	and may even have it and not know it
Oct 27 16:22:41 <BTC-Mining>	and dev boards tending to be incredibly more expensive compared to consumer grade hardware.
Oct 27 16:23:17 <Diablo-D3>	parallel doesnt magically fix shit either
Oct 27 16:23:29 <kakobrekla>	did anyone claim that?
Oct 27 16:23:34 <Diablo-D3>	okay so, they're claiming 26 gigaflops on $99
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Oct 27 16:24:51 <Diablo-D3>	a 7750, the smallest GCN, using the ddr3 model, does 819 gflops and has 55 max watts and costs $109
Oct 27 16:25:54 <Diablo-D3>	the smallest still in production 5xxx/69xx is a Cedar, the 7350, 104 gflops, 20 watts
Oct 27 16:25:58 <Diablo-D3>	no price avail because its OEM only
Oct 27 16:26:01 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 you know these ipos tend to be a lot of hype.
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Oct 27 16:26:18 <Diablo-D3>	Im just saying here, cheap parallel hardware is already here
Oct 27 16:26:22 <BTC-Mining>	But can you really do everything you can do on a dev board on those?
Oct 27 16:26:35 <Diablo-D3>	yes.
Oct 27 16:26:42 <Diablo-D3>	I wrote a bitcoin miner, after all.
Oct 27 16:27:34 <BTC-Mining>	Yes... but not all good GPU are good at that. Basically only Radeon.
Oct 27 16:27:51 <BTC-Mining>	Because they're designed to do specific calculatations...
Oct 27 16:29:06 <BTC-Mining>	Would they be as performant for any task? Doesn't seem so. Aren't dev boards more like generic CPU for performing a larger variety of tasks?
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Oct 27 16:32:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16237 @ 0.00046474 = 7.546 BTC [-]
Oct 27 16:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33763 @ 0.00046446 = 15.6816 BTC [-]
Oct 27 16:32:51 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining i don't imagine parallella chips do so well at parallelizing "a variety" of tasks anyway
Oct 27 16:34:47 <BTC-Mining>	Well it would do a variety of tasks...
Oct 27 16:35:29 <BTC-Mining>	So a more generic processor would be preferable. Unless you want to do tasks a GPU is good for.
Oct 27 16:35:46 <BTC-Mining>	Then consumer grade GPU are pretty performant and cheap.
Oct 27 16:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	im sure it's better than a radeon vidcard in that sense
Oct 27 16:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	but reasonably if i wanted to do parallel processing i'd still just rent out a rack of boxes and use that.
Oct 27 16:36:35 <BTC-Mining>	Well yeah. Renting is cheaper and you don't need to buy the whole hardware.
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Oct 27 16:37:31 <BTC-Mining>	But if you need to share it and use it all the time, a cheap one wouldn't be bad.
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Oct 27 16:39:46 <BTC-Mining>	Wouldn't for example students benefit from having cheap dev board available?
Oct 27 16:42:00 <smickles>	OMG, mircea_popescu that statjson will make things so much easier, and the md5, but what exactly is the md5 of for each secton?
Oct 27 16:42:30 <mircea_popescu>	the previous part of the section
Oct 27 16:42:42 <smickles>	with ',' included?
Oct 27 16:42:52 <mircea_popescu>	yes and mind the /n's
Oct 27 16:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ran into the same thing yest
Oct 27 16:43:14 <smickles>	oh, fing windows, i can't test it with /n's in mind
Oct 27 16:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining maybe. who knows what students need...
Oct 27 16:43:29 <smickles>	i'll have to get back to my main macine
Oct 27 16:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	basically the point of the md5 is precisely to allow *some* armor hardening of the thing while still allowing it to be read like plain text
Oct 27 16:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	a sort of cabbage-eggplant.
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Oct 27 16:44:54 <BTC-Mining>	Well it's purely guesses and speculation on my part anyway. I don't really know anything about development and the need for dev boards.
Oct 27 16:45:12 <smickles>	well, seems like it can be utilized as a very quick and simple check for differences
Oct 27 16:45:25 <mircea_popescu>	smickles and also, seen the mpex db dump ? good insurance for customers, if they put a big order in also save a db dump :p
Oct 27 16:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	smickles and yes, that too, allows you to see fast which sections changed if you store prev hashes
Oct 27 16:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't look like so much but a lot of work went into this thing actually.
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Oct 27 16:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9478 @ 0.00046478 = 4.4052 BTC [+]
Oct 27 16:57:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.0004655 = 10.5203 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 17:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.00046648 = 21.598 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 17:49:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00046701 = 15.925 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 18:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 3000 @ 0.0032491 = 9.7473 BTC [-]
Oct 27 18:14:43 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you should sign and encrypt the db with the exchange key. that way, should it become necessary for the public to decrypt it, you wouldn't need to release your personal key
Oct 27 18:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not releasing my key either way, why'd i release it ?
Oct 27 18:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	i'll just decrypt the db
Oct 27 18:16:35 <smickles>	idunno, i have some half-baked reason forming which invoves some situation where you are abducted or something
Oct 27 18:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	you misconstrue the point here.
Oct 27 18:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	suppose for a moment there's an uberconspiracy of like, the reptillians
Oct 27 18:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	who covertly follow all my communications, know of all my back-ups and one day suddenly strike!
Oct 27 18:18:02 <mircea_popescu>	and destroy ALL servers.
Oct 27 18:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	what nao ?
Oct 27 18:18:23 <mircea_popescu>	the advantage of this scheme is that backups can now be obtained from both known *and unknown* sources
Oct 27 18:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	making the entire thing much more resilient to attacks.
Oct 27 18:18:42 <kakobrekla>	go suck it reptillians!
Oct 27 18:18:44 <smickles>	Oh, i feel like i completly understand the backup aspect of it
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Oct 27 18:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol kakobrekla
Oct 27 18:19:34 <smickles>	i was trying to think of a situation where you are inaccessable some how, and you have the exchange key released to the public so that people can get at the data
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Oct 27 18:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	in any event the exchange key can never be released
Oct 27 18:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	think about it, the exchange key is released to decrypt db
Oct 27 18:19:58 <smickles>	prolly for the best
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Oct 27 18:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	a week later there's fifty billion fake stats floating around
Oct 27 18:20:34 <smickles>	what would the use of a stat be if the exchange were down tho?
Oct 27 18:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	how do i know ?
Oct 27 18:20:55 <smickles>	hey, i said the idea was half-baked :P
Oct 27 18:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Oct 27 18:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the system is pretty well designed for expansion. in the future i might generate a special key just for db signing, and put it somewhere safe
Oct 27 18:29:28 <BTC-Mining>	well... public key... private key...  how about other backup keys where the private key is never disclosed and the public key to decrypt the database is only disclosed in case you disappear?
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Oct 27 18:30:34 <BTC-Mining>	And sign the public key for the database with the exchange's key. That way people know if they decrypt it with that public database key, it was a statement encrypted with the official backup private key.
Oct 27 18:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	public key is needed to decrypt
Oct 27 18:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	i mean. private key is needed to decrypt
Oct 27 18:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00046648 = 1.1196 BTC [-]
Oct 27 18:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7022 @ 0.00046621 = 3.2737 BTC [-]
Oct 27 18:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2078 @ 0.00046583 = 0.968 BTC [-]
Oct 27 18:31:43 <BTC-Mining>	hmm... why?
Oct 27 18:32:23 <mircea_popescu>	...
Oct 27 18:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	who encrypts with private key ?!
Oct 27 18:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't there an xkcd about this ?
Oct 27 18:32:59 <BTC-Mining>	Maybe
Oct 27 18:35:00 <BTC-Mining>	What would the issue with that be?
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Oct 27 18:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	lemme find it
Oct 27 18:35:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/responsible_behavior.png lol
Oct 27 18:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	that's not it tho
Oct 27 18:36:05 <mircea_popescu>	idea was guy encrypts a "would you marry me" with his public key
Oct 27 18:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	gives to girl
Oct 27 18:36:13 <mircea_popescu>	she keeps trying ot hack it
Oct 27 18:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	he figures by the time she breaks it he'll know for sure.
Oct 27 18:38:11 <BTC-Mining>	But what's the issue with encrypting with your private key with a public key for decrypting the data?
Oct 27 18:38:29 <mircea_popescu>	kinda backwards.
Oct 27 18:39:28 <BTC-Mining>	But the idea is to be able to release confidential data. And only if you disappear, an automated process triggers because a time limit is not reset and it releases the public key for decrypting the database.
Oct 27 18:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	yea, but ideally this would not be public knowledge.
Oct 27 18:41:55 <BTC-Mining>	yeah, I mean, just for covering the case of all people with access to MPEx suddenly being incapacitated to keep-through with the business, data could still be released.
Oct 27 18:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	still, you know, a raw db dump isn't the right way to do this.
Oct 27 18:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	it'd have to be released as a per-issuer section, encrypted with the issuer's public key.
Oct 27 18:43:29 <smickles>	did i kick a hornet's nest or somehting?
Oct 27 18:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Oct 27 18:43:44 <smickles>	ok :)
Oct 27 18:43:45 <BTC-Mining>	Well what's the problem with that?
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Oct 27 18:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	just, the natural inclination of people is to think in terms of, this db dump is for if i die. not what it is for. it's for if govt confiscates interwebs.
Oct 27 18:44:22 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining nothing's the problem wit hthat, but it's not part of the db dump line :)
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Oct 27 18:46:00 <BTC-Mining>	A special database, with it's own key pair. You make it available for download, encrypted with the database private key. The public key for it is released after 6 months without resetting the counter on it. Signed with the exchange's key so we know any data decryptable with that public key is from the official source.
Oct 27 18:46:11 <smickles>	it's not about you being dead, it's about you being abducted by the reptillians
Oct 27 18:47:11 <BTC-Mining>	The decrypted data containing a per issuer data with further encryption with their public key.
Oct 27 18:47:17 <smickles>	http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/3698/375957-reptar003_large.gif
Oct 27 18:47:25 <BTC-Mining>	So only issuer has access to data for each holder.
Oct 27 18:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	so you're stuck waiting for six months
Oct 27 18:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	and you depend on the entire system surviving by itself for six months
Oct 27 18:48:36 <BTC-Mining>	Basically
Oct 27 18:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	honestly, i think if nefario came out right now and said he's releasing issuer data in april
Oct 27 18:48:59 <mircea_popescu>	and actually DOES release it in april
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Oct 27 18:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be about as useful as a bunion.
Oct 27 18:49:39 <BTC-Mining>	Well for many, it would actually still be useful...
Oct 27 18:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not saying there's no way to do this
Oct 27 18:50:36 <BTC-Mining>	As long as issuers keep the accounting and putting the BTC aside for when that data is released.
Oct 27 18:50:52 <BTC-Mining>	Honestly, I don't expect anything that extreme, mircea.
Oct 27 18:51:40 <BTC-Mining>	Just stating it would be possible to make a database public and official without the need to release a private key to forge different sets of data.
Oct 27 18:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	but in the extreme case the db needs to be distributed what i envisage is a text flatfile containing each issuer's holders encrypted with his public key, the whole thing signed and dumped on like, piratebay
Oct 27 18:52:22 <BTC-Mining>	Would probably be simplier and better.
Oct 27 18:52:38 <mircea_popescu>	alongside a final dump of everyone's stats, encrupted with their public key
Oct 27 18:52:55 <BTC-Mining>	But that flatfile needs to be encrypted with the exchange's key first of course.
Oct 27 18:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	actually this is delineated in the faq since the days when people were asking mpex (but not glbse) what is the plan for the case which befel glbse but not mpex.
Oct 27 18:53:15 <mircea_popescu>	not really, no.
Oct 27 18:53:44 <BTC-Mining>	hmm... how do we know the flatfile is official then?
Oct 27 18:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	 the whole thing signed
Oct 27 18:54:30 <BTC-Mining>	ah well sorry, that's what I meant.
Oct 27 18:54:34 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Oct 27 18:54:45 <BTC-Mining>	Either way the source can be verified.
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Oct 27 18:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	i'ma go watch porn with the girls. ttyall laters.
Oct 27 18:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5022 @ 0.00046583 = 2.3394 BTC [-]
Oct 27 18:57:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6437 @ 0.00046446 = 2.9897 BTC [-]
Oct 27 18:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9382 @ 0.00046419 = 4.355 BTC [-]
Oct 27 18:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31166 @ 0.00046249 = 14.414 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 20:06:57 <thestringpuller>	fuck i slept 17 hours
Oct 27 20:07:04 <thestringpuller>	for fucks sake
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Oct 27 20:13:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2369 @ 0.00046116 = 1.0925 BTC [-]
Oct 27 20:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34231 @ 0.00046103 = 15.7815 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 20:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18813 @ 0.00046239 = 8.6989 BTC [+]
Oct 27 20:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4587 @ 0.00046701 = 2.1422 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 20:50:48 <BTC-Mining>	Congratulations thestringpuller
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Oct 27 21:03:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8693 @ 0.00046103 = 4.0077 BTC [-]
Oct 27 21:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9907 @ 0.00046022 = 4.5594 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 21:29:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15593 @ 0.00046022 = 7.1762 BTC [-]
Oct 27 21:29:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21407 @ 0.00045918 = 9.8297 BTC [-]
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Oct 27 21:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00046015 = 3.4971 BTC [+]
Oct 27 21:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00046193 = 0.5081 BTC [+]
Oct 27 21:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15681 @ 0.00046266 = 7.255 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 22:46:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00046707 = 6.3522 BTC [+]
Oct 27 22:46:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24665 @ 0.0004697 = 11.5852 BTC [+]
Oct 27 22:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3710 @ 0.00047259 = 1.7533 BTC [+]
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Oct 27 23:37:30 <knotwork>	Is there a term for a mutually exercise-able short/long or call/put pair?
Oct 27 23:38:48 <knotwork>	Basically a strike price agreed between two parties for a specified volume, that either can exercise at any moment within some span of time?
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Oct 28 00:03:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1981 @ 0.0004667 = 0.9245 BTC [-]
Oct 28 00:03:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00046585 = 1.9566 BTC [-]
Oct 28 00:03:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00046509 = 6.4648 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 00:28:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13494 @ 0.00046457 = 6.2689 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 00:44:25 <smickles>	knotwork: that's interesting
Oct 28 00:45:20 <smickles>	but wouldn't it always benifit one side to exercise right away
Oct 28 00:45:43 <smickles>	*benefit
Oct 28 00:54:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8263 @ 0.00046457 = 3.8387 BTC [-]
Oct 28 00:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22037 @ 0.00046396 = 10.2243 BTC [-]
Oct 28 00:57:13 <knotwork>	that is why in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103699.msg1302791#msg1302791 I am suggesting some kind of bot would be needed by the person who is in the money, to keep entering into more similar deals as each partner executes their losing side to step their loss
Oct 28 00:58:40 <knotwork>	with a nervois partner or a nickel-and-diming bot yes every market-matching-of-offers cycle of time (each instant one side sees it lost for a moment however small or large moments happen to be) the out of money partner would exercise to stop loss
Oct 28 00:59:36 <knotwork>	but a more sure-footed partner would maybe just smile and think oh big deal, out of the money for one cycle of time, big deal, I found a partner I will stick this out longer to see if they will duck out the instant they are a satoshi out of the money
Oct 28 01:00:31 <knotwork>	keep reputation maybe. who ducks out at the first satoshi out of the money, who sticks it out more, get to know how far out of trhe money various players are confident enough to go?
Oct 28 01:08:50 <knotwork>	I suppose you could make it use granular time.
Oct 28 01:09:27 <knotwork>	so as well as an expiry like maybe 30 days or whatever, also when you say to exercise it it does not actually execute until the next midnight
Oct 28 01:09:34 <knotwork>	or dawn or whatever
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Oct 28 01:10:18 <knotwork>	so if you flinch at the first satoshi out of trhe money five seconds after making the deal, you may find when the full 24 hours of granularity of time is up that you flinched too soon
Oct 28 01:16:44 <smickles>	ah, so not executing exactly at exercise makes a world of difference
Oct 28 01:18:06 <knotwork>	:)
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Oct 28 01:19:27 <smickles>	and I was thinking of the senario where this basket was ITM on one side at purchase, assuming you beat whatever premium may be involved, risk free 'insta-profit' is awesome however small
Oct 28 01:19:47 <knotwork>	simplifies botting too, as only at midnight (or whatever the execute time is) do the bots need to figoure out if their trading partner ducked out to stop his loss and if so to try to agree on a new strike price with him or find another partner
Oct 28 01:19:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9319 @ 0.00046459 = 4.3295 BTC [+]
Oct 28 01:19:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 996 @ 0.00046848 = 0.4666 BTC [+]
Oct 28 01:20:22 <knotwork>	this would result in regular price-to-market events
Oct 28 01:20:36 <knotwork>	in effect, assuming one does keep finding new partners
Oct 28 01:22:08 <smickles>	!ticker O.BTCUSD.C100T
Oct 28 01:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.14500172 / 0.23017162 / 0.3369956 (8960 shares, 2,062.34 BTC)
Oct 28 01:22:15 <smickles>	!ticker O.BTCUSD.P100T
Oct 28 01:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P100T] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0032142 / 0.06153875 / 0.07007253 (34 shares, 2.09 BTC)
Oct 28 01:22:55 <smickles>	;;calc .2301 - .0615
Oct 28 01:22:55 <gribble>	0.1686
Oct 28 01:23:15 <smickles>	;;calc [bc,24hprc - 10]
Oct 28 01:23:16 <gribble>	10.42
Oct 28 01:23:25 <smickles>	;;calc [bc,24hprc] - 10
Oct 28 01:23:26 <gribble>	0.42
Oct 28 01:24:32 <knotwork>	Hmm maybe though its still going to be inevitable that a moment before execute the out of the money partner ducks out
Oct 28 01:25:03 <smickles>	only if it's trending out of their favor
Oct 28 01:25:18 <knotwork>	but, who decides who is out of the money? If one partner's favourite oracle is a different oracle than the other partner's, both might think they are in the money
Oct 28 01:25:44 <smickles>	why would you be unable to calc an intrinsic price?
Oct 28 01:25:47 <knotwork>	as both could be watching a different current-prices readout or using averaging over a different span/volume
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Oct 28 01:26:05 <knotwork>	the whole point of this method is to not need an oracle
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Oct 28 01:26:20 <smickles>	oh, sorry, i'm used to mpex option working off of an average
Oct 28 01:26:21 <knotwork>	players can use oracles if they wish but platform has none
Oct 28 01:26:49 <knotwork>	both players can come out ahead
Oct 28 01:27:08 <knotwork>	for example say you are on USD side and I am on BTC side
Oct 28 01:27:39 <knotwork>	we could both come out ahead if we each have different places we cash out at
Oct 28 01:27:55 <knotwork>	USD could be high where you like to go, and BTC high where I like to go
Oct 28 01:28:21 <knotwork>	we could titally different opinions about in or out of the money
Oct 28 01:28:50 <knotwork>	maybe I have missed a point though the original idea had
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Oct 28 01:28:56 <smickles>	sounds like an arbitrageur's wet dream
Oct 28 01:29:29 <knotwork>	I think the original discussion maybe wasnt in the long+short baskets thread but some other thread
Oct 28 01:29:58 <knotwork>	the guy described it as somehow working correctly no matter what prices actually are
Oct 28 01:30:08 <knotwork>	oh AHA! I remember!
Oct 28 01:30:29 <knotwork>	You not only choose to exercise but state the price!???? sounds weird
Oct 28 01:30:57 <knotwork>	but there was a settling up computation, so that it works out even if you state some insane price
Oct 28 01:31:24 <knotwork>	like you could say hey I know a place where bitcoins are a billion dollars each so I want to exercise now
Oct 28 01:32:08 <knotwork>	and it works out fine, I am not losing a billion dollars, and you only actually get a billion dollars less a bitcoin if you really truly can sell the bitcoin fro a billion dollars
Oct 28 01:32:31 <knotwork>	Hmmm no thats no different, my description of it still allows that
Oct 28 01:32:54 <knotwork>	it does not matter at all what either of is think real value is, all that matters is do we exercise or not
Oct 28 01:33:13 <smickles>	well, what's the utility of this, iyo, and where is a thorough description of it?
Oct 28 01:33:15 <knotwork>	we could be totally wrong about our imagined what its value is
Oct 28 01:33:52 <knotwork>	the utility is no need for an oracle AND no need for the platform to take any risks
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Oct 28 01:34:35 <knotwork>	so no one can accuse the platform of using or providing an inaccurate oracle, and no one can brerak the platform's bank by price swinging too far in any direction
Oct 28 01:34:57 <knotwork>	so utility to platform is plenty. utility to users might be little or none?
Oct 28 01:38:19 <smickles>	hmm, you know, this is pretty much how options work, except the short side would close independant of the long side by buying back what they shorted
Oct 28 01:38:49 <knotwork>	buying back from whom?
Oct 28 01:39:03 <smickles>	"the market"
Oct 28 01:39:19 <knotwork>	yeah, the at risk breakable-bank platform?
Oct 28 01:39:40 <knotwork>	as a platform operator I am not thrilled at that prospect
Oct 28 01:40:59 <smickles>	well, if not some platform, OTC is also available
Oct 28 01:41:27 <knotwork>	I would really prefer shorting to be real, actually. But anonymous online avatars being what they are, it would necessitate collateral
Oct 28 01:42:19 <knotwork>	It would be nice to build up huge nest-eggs of relatively high-appreciation assets to use as collateral, and simply borrow against that collateral anything one wanted to short
Oct 28 01:43:33 <knotwork>	(Probably shorting it against the very things one uses as collateral, so basically borrow something depreciating and buy nice appreciating stuff with it to increase your collateral)
Oct 28 01:44:34 <smickles>	i think i witnessed that just earlier
Oct 28 01:45:15 <knotwork>	the example I used to use was borrowing devcoins against bitcoin collateral, buy more bitcoins with the devcoins
Oct 28 01:45:16 <smickles>	someone (likely using a lot of margin) shorted thousands of puts on MPEx
Oct 28 01:45:24 <knotwork>	but borrowing fiat would be fine too
Oct 28 01:45:42 <knotwork>	by shorting puts do you mean selling puts?
Oct 28 01:45:52 <knotwork>	or selling puts they don't own?
Oct 28 01:45:53 <smickles>	yup
Oct 28 01:46:03 <knotwork>	borrowing puts from someone to sell?
Oct 28 01:46:12 <smickles>	well, selling puts they wrote using borrowed funds
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Oct 28 01:46:45 <smickles>	(on mpex you have to back you written puts with STRIKE/SPOT collateral)
Oct 28 01:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31557 @ 0.00046396 = 14.6412 BTC [-]
Oct 28 01:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2825 @ 0.00046139 = 1.3034 BTC [-]
Oct 28 01:47:12 <knotwork>	last financial statement I glanced at seemed to indicate bondholders were asking 9% but ended up losing approx 9% instead for the month?
Oct 28 01:47:58 <knotwork>	so I am still trying to find setups that dont put platform at risk yet are useful to users
Oct 28 01:48:24 <knotwork>	I think the collateral-accounts concept might potentially over time work for users as leverage
Oct 28 01:48:40 <knotwork>	as long as they make good choices as to what to use as collateral, anyway
Oct 28 01:49:02 <knotwork>	though I suppose if they make good picks they are gonna profit regardless
Oct 28 01:49:15 <knotwork>	so maybe for good pickers the whole concept is moot
Oct 28 01:49:27 <knotwork>	and for poor pickers it wont really help them any
Oct 28 01:50:02 <knotwork>	hmm actually leverage should be bad for bad pickers anyway
Oct 28 01:50:03 <smickles>	i need to consider this long/short thing more
Oct 28 01:51:04 <knotwork>	so I guess even for good pickers a 50% or so leverage should be helpful provided interest rates on the loans are not too high or are made up for by their shorting of what the borrow actually accomplishing some lowering of price of the thing so they can get it back cheaper to pay back the loan
Oct 28 01:52:08 <knotwork>	I have vague visions though of algorithms that will loan someone something to spend, be the counterparty when they spend it, then asking more for it when the debtor needs it back to pay back the loan
Oct 28 01:53:08 <knotwork>	basically plotting against shorters, loaning them stuff to short with the plan of ensuring the shorting does NOT suppress the price of what was shorted
Oct 28 01:53:48 <knotwork>	afterall it makes little sense to loan someone something to short if you think their shorting it will lower its value more than the interest you charge on the loan
Oct 28 01:55:18 <knotwork>	Makes me loop back though to the whole psycho out the markets / manipulation crap
Oct 28 01:56:02 <knotwork>	I like to figure out value by adding up assets, not by thinking some idiot selling a shitload ridiculously cheap means what they sold is not worth much
Oct 28 01:57:00 <knotwork>	if I know company X owns a million bitcoins, and it has a million shares, and someone sells its shares at less than a bitcoin each I no way think its shares are worth less than a bitcoin each
Oct 28 01:57:35 <knotwork>	I should in fact "know for a fact" they are necessarily worth AT LEAST a bitcoin each???
Oct 28 01:58:17 <knotwork>	unless I start into distrusting the auditors or accountants or bankers etc who have reported its assets as including a million bitcoins
Oct 28 01:59:34 <knotwork>	this is why my evaluation / pricing scripts add up actual assets owned instead of caring at all about whether people are buying and selling shares above or below that
Oct 28 02:00:16 <knotwork>	(in fact I expect and plan they will buy for less and sell for more, its why I compute value in the first place: so everyone's scripts know the "actual value" above which to sell and below which to buy)
Oct 28 02:00:44 <knotwork>	(by everyone I mean for example all my market-maker bots)
Oct 28 02:01:34 <knotwork>	I want in fact to make such bots themselves into corps with shares so they can even buy and sell each other's shares, valuing each other by actual holdings
Oct 28 02:02:29 <smickles>	wild
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Oct 28 02:03:19 <smickles>	can you imagine some derivitives based on that?
Oct 28 02:03:19 <knotwork>	I suspect a shorting mechanism is needed though, as values seem to always just go up and up and up
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Oct 28 02:03:29 <smickles>	could be insane
Oct 28 02:03:29 <knotwork>	http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html
Oct 28 02:03:47 <knotwork>	MBC is up above bitcoins lately, I never expected they would surpass bitcoins
Oct 28 02:04:06 <knotwork>	I keep looking for flaws in my scripts thinking something must have broken
Oct 28 02:06:04 <knotwork>	there are interest-bearing loans, so yes the corps doing loans should be rising in value, but the rate they are all rising seems way too fast
Oct 28 02:07:00 <knotwork>	in the case of GFC its because GFX uses leverage: it borrowed a shitload at one interest rate and loaned it all out at double that interest rate
Oct 28 02:07:19 <knotwork>	so that one's rise makes sense, and also other small corps that hold bunch of its shares
Oct 28 02:08:34 <knotwork>	but entire value of GFC is only a fraction of the Martian's reserves that back the MBC currency so even GFC's great scuess, especially considering Martian trasury owns only a portion of its shares, doesnt explain why MBC has been rising so much so fast
Oct 28 02:08:57 <knotwork>	s/scuess/success/
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Oct 28 02:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00046139 = 3.322 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 02:15:02 <smickles>	lol, i am imortalized http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/that-sticky-issue-of-enforcing-contracts/
Oct 28 02:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	hehe yeah
Oct 28 02:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	what the hell is with people painting their walls orange ?
Oct 28 02:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	and i do not mean some pale yellow or w/e, i mean orange, like the fruit.
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Oct 28 02:18:55 <smickles>	well, it seems one reason may be to annoy you
Oct 28 02:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 28 02:19:57 <smickles>	is it a darker sort of orange, or bright glowing orange?
Oct 28 02:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135140516264.jpg punishment ensues
Oct 28 02:20:15 <smickles>	like 70s era or gay pride parade?
Oct 28 02:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	it's a bright glowing orange that makes food look unhealthy and women's complexion totally alien
Oct 28 02:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 28 02:34:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.40000, Best ask: 10.44857, Bid-ask spread: 0.04857, Last trade: 10.40000, 24 hour volume: 43262.33694086, 24 hour low: 10.12999, 24 hour high: 10.83883, 24 hour vwap: 10.45494
Oct 28 02:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol so for 3 months now we've been giggling between 10 and 14
Oct 28 02:40:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41623 @ 0.00046298 = 19.2706 BTC [+]
Oct 28 02:42:27 <smickles>	;;calc .2876 - .235
Oct 28 02:42:28 <gribble>	0.0526
Oct 28 02:42:38 <smickles>	;;calc [bc,24hprc] - 10
Oct 28 02:42:39 <gribble>	0.44
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Oct 28 02:48:12 <smickles>	;;calc -1 * [bc,24hprc] + 10 + .2867
Oct 28 02:48:13 <gribble>	-0.1533
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Oct 28 02:48:51 <smickles>	;;calc -1 * [bc,24hprc] + 10 + .1367
Oct 28 02:49:20 <gribble>	-0.3033
Oct 28 02:49:58 <rg>	o deer
Oct 28 02:49:59 <smickles>	;;calc -1 * [bc,24hprc] + 10 + .4367
Oct 28 02:50:00 <gribble>	-0.0033
Oct 28 02:50:43 <smickles>	;;calc -1 * [bc,24hprc] + 10 -.235
Oct 28 02:50:44 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Oct 28 02:50:48 <smickles>	;;calc -1 * [bc,24hprc] + 10 - .235
Oct 28 02:50:49 <gribble>	-0.675
Oct 28 02:51:59 <smickles>	;;calc [bc,24hprc] - 10 - .2876
Oct 28 02:52:00 <gribble>	0.1524
Oct 28 02:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol what sorcery is this
Oct 28 02:55:04 <smickles>	i'm trying to work out that arb b/t mpex and icbit
Oct 28 02:55:18 <smickles>	you know anything about call put parity?
Oct 28 02:56:19 <smickles>	the futures on icbit deliver at 10 at the end of december, so at some point in time, there should be an arb op
Oct 28 02:56:50 <smickles>	oh, well, middle of december, but still
Oct 28 02:57:42 <smickles>	;;calc [ticker --bid] - 10 - .2876
Oct 28 02:57:43 <gribble>	0.06426
Oct 28 02:59:12 <smickles>	oh, i know what i'm fucking up
Oct 28 02:59:29 <smickles>	;;calc [ticker --bid] - 10 / [ticker --bid] - .2876
Oct 28 02:59:30 <gribble>	9.09825002691
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Oct 28 03:00:07 <smickles>	;;calc [ticker --bid] - 10 - .2876 * [ticker --bid]
Oct 28 03:00:08 <gribble>	-2.625334936
Oct 28 03:00:28 <smickles>	;;calc ([ticker --bid] - 10 - .2876 * [ticker --bid]) / [ticker --bid]
Oct 28 03:00:29 <gribble>	-0.253609973087
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Oct 28 03:00:39 <smickles>	;;calc ([ticker --bid] - 10 - .2876 * [ticker --bid]) / [ticker --bid] * -1
Oct 28 03:00:40 <gribble>	0.253609973087
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Oct 28 03:01:16 <smickles>	:o
Oct 28 03:03:29 <smickles>	;;calc .2536 * .98
Oct 28 03:03:30 <gribble>	0.248528
Oct 28 03:04:34 <smickles>	;;calc ([ticker --bid] - 10 + .1549 * [ticker --bid]) / [ticker --bid] * -1
Oct 28 03:04:35 <gribble>	-0.188890026913
Oct 28 03:04:41 <smickles>	;;calc ([ticker --bid] - 10 + .1549 * [ticker --bid]) / [ticker --bid]
Oct 28 03:04:42 <gribble>	0.188890026913
Oct 28 03:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23268 @ 0.00046139 = 10.7356 BTC [-]
Oct 28 03:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00046047 = 0.1381 BTC [-]
Oct 28 03:05:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1869 @ 0.00046008 = 0.8599 BTC [-]
Oct 28 03:05:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11063 @ 0.00045993 = 5.0882 BTC [-]
Oct 28 03:05:32 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: come play monopoly with me and bitfoo for btc
Oct 28 03:06:05 <smickles>	;;calc ([ticker --bid] - 10 + .1549 * [ticker --bid])
Oct 28 03:06:06 <gribble>	1.955363114
Oct 28 03:06:51 <bitfoo>	that's a lot of calculations :o
Oct 28 03:07:08 <smickles>	i should stop spamming, i gueess
Oct 28 03:07:18 <bitfoo>	nah, it's cool
Oct 28 03:07:22 <bitfoo>	work it out and then we can all arb ;)
Oct 28 03:07:43 <smickles>	that last one proves that it's there, if you know what you're looking at
Oct 28 03:08:09 <bitfoo>	it's too late in the day for me to even try and figure that out
Oct 28 03:09:28 <smickles>	;;calc .2762 * [ticker --bid] - .2417 * [ticker --bid]
Oct 28 03:09:29 <gribble>	0.35724681
Oct 28 03:10:38 <smickles>	short stradle at 100N, buy icbit futures up to 10.35
Oct 28 03:11:47 <smickles>	;;calc 200 / [ticker --bid]
Oct 28 03:11:47 <gribble>	19.3143782026
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Oct 28 03:12:39 <smickles>	crap, what quantities??!!
Oct 28 03:14:32 <bitfoo>	icbit depth looks pretty thin
Oct 28 03:15:23 <smickles>	oh lol my ass off,
Oct 28 03:15:33 <smickles>	i've done it already on accident
Oct 28 03:15:46 *	smickles is a futures/options savant
Oct 28 03:18:43 <smickles>	bitfoo: part of that is the fact that only the nearest 5 orders are shown (either side of center)
Oct 28 03:19:01 <bitfoo>	yeah, I was trying to figure out how to see more than that
Oct 28 03:19:05 <bitfoo>	not possible I assume?
Oct 28 03:19:10 <smickles>	"comming soon"
Oct 28 03:19:12 <bitfoo>	heh
Oct 28 03:19:18 <smickles>	™
Oct 28 03:21:39 <smickles>	i should find confidence in my math, then i would arb that op so hard
Oct 28 03:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	what about call/put parity smickles ?
Oct 28 03:30:47 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i identified the arb op
Oct 28 03:30:49 <smickles>	currently
Oct 28 03:31:08 <smickles>	short stradle at 100N, and buy the futures up to 10.35ish
Oct 28 03:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13537 @ 0.00045993 = 6.2261 BTC [-]
Oct 28 03:31:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00045989 = 3.4952 BTC [-]
Oct 28 03:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13005 @ 0.00045918 = 5.9716 BTC [-]
Oct 28 03:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11033 @ 0.00045901 = 5.0643 BTC [-]
Oct 28 03:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	aite
Oct 28 03:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	part of that is the fact that only the nearest 5 orders are shown << who comes up wit this sort of shit ?
Oct 28 03:32:29 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, why 5 ? why not 9 ? why not 3.14 ?
Oct 28 03:34:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	well im sure you know why 3.14 was not sued
Oct 28 03:34:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	used
Oct 28 03:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100N] 10 @ 0.27614221 = 2.7614 BTC [+]
Oct 28 03:35:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100N] 9 @ 0.24169245 = 2.1752 BTC [-]
Oct 28 03:35:20 <mircea_popescu>	see, that's faulty. "we should do X, but we can't practically do X so we are doing Y instead"
Oct 28 03:35:23 <mircea_popescu>	no. fuck you. do X.
Oct 28 03:35:35 <mircea_popescu>	if it should be 3.14 then they either do 3.14 or not do it at all.
Oct 28 03:35:36 <smickles>	scrollbars are tough
Oct 28 03:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	anyway this is all academic, iirc there wasn't much volume anyway, like 1-2 btc a week or something
Oct 28 03:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	or not wait, i think i was looking at some gold and oil futures
Oct 28 03:37:03 <mircea_popescu>	this is btc ?
Oct 28 03:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	meh gotta log in to see mkt what bs.
Oct 28 03:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100N] 2 @ 0.24169245 = 0.4834 BTC [-]
Oct 28 03:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	Να γίνεστε δική σας τράπεζα
Oct 28 03:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	anyone recognise anything in there ?
Oct 28 03:41:25 <smickles>	recognise what where?
Oct 28 03:41:41 <mircea_popescu>	words in the sentence
Oct 28 03:42:06 <smickles>	it's all ?? on my terminal
Oct 28 03:42:18 <mircea_popescu>	aww. it's greek
Oct 28 03:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	and it ends in trapeza, which in greek means bank
Oct 28 03:42:41 <smickles>	it's a trap?
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Oct 28 03:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	nana nah, a trapeze
Oct 28 03:45:18 <smickles>	hmm, high wire act, vs starwars reference
Oct 28 03:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Oct 28 03:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	greek is a very humorous language.
Oct 28 03:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	"main page" is something like kuria teliga
Oct 28 03:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	kuria you might have heard of
Oct 28 03:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	as in, the roman curia
Oct 28 03:47:09 <smickles>	Κύρια πύλη
Oct 28 03:47:20 <mircea_popescu>	yielded court in english
Oct 28 03:48:44 <mircea_popescu>	"For the last time, geeks should not open financial service businesses just because they can make the website and fire up some hardware"
Oct 28 03:48:45 <smickles>	so it's like tele-court, main page == judge judy?
Oct 28 03:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	guruvan totally has it.
Oct 28 03:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	pule is more like gate than page.
Oct 28 03:50:40 <smickles>	i should've continued learning greek
Oct 28 03:51:32 <smickles>	i took 2 or three classes then stopped because it was a 7am class, and I had an hour bikeride to make it
Oct 28 03:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	i never took any classes
Oct 28 03:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	find a greek girl, date her.
Oct 28 03:52:04 <smickles>	that should work well for me
Oct 28 03:54:23 <mircea_popescu>	go home tonight and say "honey, today we talk about χαρέμι"
Oct 28 03:55:26 <smickles>	"Prospero, the only British satellite to date launched on a British rocket, lifted off from Launch Area 5B..." <<this statement feels so full of lame
Oct 28 03:55:59 <smickles>	area 5b sounds like a shitty appartment with only one room
Oct 28 03:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 28 03:56:30 <smickles>	prospero is that fake enthusiam you get from an pessimeist
Oct 28 03:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	satellite sitcom
Oct 28 03:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	nothing could be lamer than romania's first and only satellite to date tho
Oct 28 03:57:06 <mircea_popescu>	in the shape of a 10cm cube
Oct 28 03:57:08 <smickles>	and they've only done it once since 1971
Oct 28 03:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.ziuaveche.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Goliat-2.jpg
Oct 28 03:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	thing is called goliat ffs.
Oct 28 03:58:13 <smickles>	lol, did they throw it by and and lose track of it (now thinking it was a successful mission)?
Oct 28 03:58:19 <smickles>	*by hand
Oct 28 03:58:46 <smickles>	what is that supposed to do?
Oct 28 03:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	takes pictures, reports back at 114kbps
Oct 28 03:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://st.interakt.md/content/news/big/goliat---primul-satelit-romanesc-in-spatiu.jpg
Oct 28 03:59:27 <smickles>	When the project began, the developers of this satellite were still in college.""
Oct 28 03:59:33 <smickles>	it's a school project!
Oct 28 04:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Oct 28 04:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	you see this is what a laissez faire state is
Oct 28 04:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	it's only fucken satellite is launched by students
Oct 28 04:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	ON THEIR OWN DIME
Oct 28 04:01:45 <smickles>	"As of 26 February 2012, it appears that the satellite has not settled into the orbit properly. Due to a malfunction to its stabilizing system, it is expected that the satellite will spin uncontrollably and eventually get lost in space. However, the coordinator of the project, Mugurel Bălan has stated that the situation is under control."
Oct 28 04:02:13 <mircea_popescu>	>D
Oct 28 04:02:35 <smickles>	statement was made 13 days after launch
Oct 28 04:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	well i blame the french
Oct 28 04:03:13 <smickles>	makes sense, they launched it, right?
Oct 28 04:04:07 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Oct 28 04:04:24 <mircea_popescu>	shoulda hired the brits instead, 5b sounds more hygienic than guyana
Oct 28 04:04:33 <smickles>	lol, so in the same timeframe it took to develop this (and the rocket that sent it up), elon musk docked a ship with the ISS
Oct 28 04:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00046291 = 1.9905 BTC [+]
Oct 28 04:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7577 @ 0.00046298 = 3.508 BTC [+]
Oct 28 04:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 623 @ 0.00046335 = 0.2887 BTC [+]
Oct 28 04:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	well elon was not in college atthe time
Oct 28 04:05:15 <smickles>	good point
Oct 28 04:05:31 <smickles>	but neither were the people wo developed the vega rocket
Oct 28 04:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	that's old iirc
Oct 28 04:06:31 <smickles>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vega_(rocket)
Oct 28 04:06:37 <smickles>	not the one i'm talking about
Oct 28 04:06:53 <smickles>	it's first launch sent up your satilite
Oct 28 04:07:01 <mircea_popescu>	o wow
Oct 28 04:07:39 <mircea_popescu>	"statists gonna state."
Oct 28 04:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	lmao.
Oct 28 04:09:36 <smickles>	oh wow, i'm going to make a solid rocket booster out of sucrose
Oct 28 04:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	ummm
Oct 28 04:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	does the community know roger ver is an ex-con ?!
Oct 28 04:12:38 <smickles>	what'd he get that status for?
Oct 28 04:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	girl dug up a conviction. there will be a post in a few.
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Oct 28 04:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00046213 = 4.8986 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 04:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32100 @ 0.00046482 = 14.9207 BTC [+]
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Oct 28 05:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/27/worker-at-northwest-indiana-library-discovers-black-powder-gun-hidden-inside/ this is pretty cool
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Oct 28 05:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	this shit's too funny :
Oct 28 05:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	The woman named “Democrat of The Year” this year by the Jefferson County Democratic Party has been convicted of felony theft by a Jefferson County jury for stealing from a developmentally disabled 71-year-old woman.
Oct 28 05:20:23 <rg>	LOL
Oct 28 05:20:37 <rg>	the fact that its from a retard makes it SO much worse
Oct 28 05:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	innit
Oct 28 05:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00046213 = 5.1759 BTC [-]
Oct 28 05:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00045901 = 6.2884 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 05:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 630 @ 0.00339944 = 2.1416 BTC [+]
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Oct 28 05:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120969.0
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Oct 28 05:40:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	wow freenode is having issues?
Oct 28 05:40:29 <mircea_popescu>	apparently
Oct 28 05:41:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	wow on Ver if true
Oct 28 05:41:31 <Chaaang-Noi>	and lucky he did it before sept 11th
Oct 28 05:42:13 <Chaaang-Noi>	pest control report?
Oct 28 05:42:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	that does not sound like a bomb...
Oct 28 05:43:03 <mircea_popescu>	it seems they're some sort of firecracker
Oct 28 05:43:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv3Wvxi6pgU
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Oct 28 05:45:10 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah he should not ahve mailed them or sold them on ebay
Oct 28 05:45:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	but 10 months in jail for that is harsh
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Oct 28 05:45:38 <Chaaang-Noi>	realted http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml03/03072.html
Oct 28 05:46:03 <Chaaang-Noi>	that warning should have made him know better
Oct 28 05:46:43 <Chaaang-Noi>	http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/press-releases/2002/verPlea.htm
Oct 28 05:47:38 <Chaaang-Noi>	i thought that guy was really rich
Oct 28 05:47:50 <Chaaang-Noi>	why would he be selling that stuff on ebay
Oct 28 05:47:56 <Chaaang-Noi>	also sure its the same guy?
Oct 28 05:48:05 <Chaaang-Noi>	roger is not really a unique name
Oct 28 05:48:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30665 @ 0.00045934 = 14.0857 BTC [+]
Oct 28 05:48:13 <Chaaang-Noi>	ver is kinda rare however
Oct 28 05:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	well i dunno, obviously.
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Oct 28 06:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30073 @ 0.00046327 = 13.9319 BTC [+]
Oct 28 06:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.0004624 = 7.3059 BTC [-]
Oct 28 06:13:57 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3
Oct 28 06:14:17 <Anduck>	wat happened to BFL.FAIL and BFL.SUCC and DMC?
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Oct 28 06:15:56 <Chaaang-Noi>	it was nefarioed
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Oct 28 06:16:16 <Diablo-D3>	Anduck: hello?
Oct 28 06:16:23 <Diablo-D3>	what happened to ALL THE FUCKING ASSETS ON GLBSE
Oct 28 06:17:19 <Anduck>	i mean
Oct 28 06:17:21 <Anduck>	..
Oct 28 06:17:25 <Anduck>	what are you going to do about it?
Oct 28 06:18:08 <Anduck>	will you just clap ur hands and say hah ahh hahah free mony no need pay cuz nefario'ddd
Oct 28 06:18:19 <Chaaang-Noi>	its not the asset issuers responcability to deal with the broker, its the people who used the brokers servces to deal with it
Oct 28 06:18:33 <Chaaang-Noi>	go talk to a lawyer about it
Oct 28 06:18:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	diablo does not have an good options
Oct 28 06:18:44 <Anduck>	i had like 1 btc in there...
Oct 28 06:18:45 <Chaaang-Noi>	any*
Oct 28 06:18:49 <Chaaang-Noi>	well
Oct 28 06:18:53 <Anduck>	just curious
Oct 28 06:18:57 <Anduck>	that wtf will happen
Oct 28 06:19:08 <Chaaang-Noi>	well i dont know what everyone will do, but asset issuers dont ahve an good options
Oct 28 06:19:13 <Anduck>	yup
Oct 28 06:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck what'd you expect he does ?
Oct 28 06:19:50 <Anduck>	if he knows who had what asset and how much
Oct 28 06:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	how does he know this ?
Oct 28 06:20:04 <Anduck>	nefario?
Oct 28 06:20:06 <Chaaang-Noi>	he cant ever "know" he can only trust nefario
Oct 28 06:20:16 <Anduck>	yes...
Oct 28 06:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	well nefario never released the data afaik
Oct 28 06:20:26 <Anduck>	that's same even if GLBSE was up
Oct 28 06:20:29 <Chaaang-Noi>	if he trust nefario it opens himself up to others claiming they had it
Oct 28 06:20:42 <Chaaang-Noi>	thats why glbse was acting as the broker
Oct 28 06:21:01 <Chaaang-Noi>	diable only needs to pay glbse.. glbse then needs to pay out the money
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Oct 28 06:21:13 <Chaaang-Noi>	dibalo*
Oct 28 06:21:36 <Anduck>	well yeah
Oct 28 06:21:47 <Anduck>	but uhh
Oct 28 06:22:12 <Anduck>	nvm ;_;
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Oct 28 06:22:57 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah nefario fucked it all up
Oct 28 06:23:06 <Chaaang-Noi>	and now he and all the other glbsers can get their asses sued
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Oct 28 06:39:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00045978 = 4.184 BTC [-]
Oct 28 06:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22798 @ 0.00045934 = 10.472 BTC [-]
Oct 28 06:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	so what's the word, any asics delivered last week ? what was the hash jump we saw ?
Oct 28 06:51:41 <EskimoBob>	Chaaang-Noi: I was reading that https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120759.20
Oct 28 06:53:02 <EskimoBob>	if I understand it correctly, PPT operators can actually get off that boat by paying the investors back the coin
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Oct 28 06:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob in most cases having repaid everyone with a claim shields you from responsibility
Oct 28 06:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	in all cases it cuts the eventual punishment significantly.
Oct 28 06:56:51 <mircea_popescu>	so... that's banal.
Oct 28 07:05:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.0004592 = 9.6891 BTC [-]
Oct 28 07:05:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00045901 = 2.8918 BTC [-]
Oct 28 07:09:33 <EskimoBob>	what so banal about that?
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Oct 28 07:17:43 <EskimoBob>	was bitcoinmax.com guy ever doxed?
Oct 28 07:18:48 <Diablo-D3>	back
Oct 28 07:18:52 <Diablo-D3>	Anduck: what Chaaang-Noi said, basically
Oct 28 07:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	who, zuxxor ?
Oct 28 07:18:59 <Diablo-D3>	until nefario releases the data, I cant do shit
Oct 28 07:19:31 <EskimoBob>	he name is pay.btc
Oct 28 07:19:47 <Diablo-D3>	Anduck: plus, I bought back half the DMC shares before GLBSE collapsed, and the DI.BFLSC stuff isnt due until after the 31st
Oct 28 07:20:17 <Anduck>	oki
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Oct 28 07:30:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00045901 = 8.4458 BTC [-]
Oct 28 07:30:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11659 @ 0.0004583 = 5.3433 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 07:53:38 <OneMiner>	Who's Mr. Ver? 10 months in prison sounds about right to me. One of the links talks about him storing the explosives in a residential apartment building and mailing them via US mail. Assuming the products were going all over the country they could have ended up on a plane. At the very minimum he put hundreds of people in mortal or near mortal danger.
Oct 28 07:55:29 <OneMiner>	You can only imagine how many were in his apartment. If there was a fire he'd be lucky to not end up with manslaughter charges at the least.
Oct 28 07:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2141 @ 0.0004583 = 0.9812 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 08:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00045777 = 6.2257 BTC [-]
Oct 28 08:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00045721 = 2.3318 BTC [-]
Oct 28 08:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18662 @ 0.00045661 = 8.5213 BTC [-]
Oct 28 08:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner he's a bitcoin enthusiast, been doing things like taking outdoor panels to advertise his acceptance of bitcoin
Oct 28 08:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	runs a computer parts shop in california, financed bitpay to some degree, lost a lot of money in bitcoinica etc
Oct 28 08:23:32 <OneMiner>	Ahh right on. Thanks.
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Oct 28 08:47:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34738 @ 0.00045661 = 15.8617 BTC [-]
Oct 28 08:47:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19462 @ 0.00045634 = 8.8813 BTC [-]
Oct 28 09:02:49 <Chaaang-Noi>	EskimoBob i dont know who the investors are.. the only one i deal with is nefaro/glbse
Oct 28 09:03:12 <Chaaang-Noi>	no one has a claim vs me... they have  claim vs glbse
Oct 28 09:12:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00045634 = 2.8749 BTC [-]
Oct 28 09:19:30 <Chaaang-Noi>	i never collected money
Oct 28 09:19:49 <Chaaang-Noi>	this is why nefario had to shut down glbse
Oct 28 09:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/options-consumption-graphs/ graph porn
Oct 28 09:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00045819 = 6.6896 BTC [+]
Oct 28 10:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5838 @ 0.00045634 = 2.6641 BTC [-]
Oct 28 10:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30262 @ 0.00045482 = 13.7638 BTC [-]
Oct 28 10:04:06 <knotwork>	Oh gosh I'm shocked, anarchists don't just *read* the anarchists cookbook some of them actually *cook*?!??! But to then capitalistically *sell* their cooking gasp that is *too* much!
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Oct 28 10:06:03 <knotwork>	I suppose now when all the [...fellows..] hear that I did time for *growing and selling plants* they'lll all move over on the bench to distance themselves from me...
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Oct 28 10:06:16 <Chaaang-Noi>	?
Oct 28 10:06:44 <knotwork>	Chap did time! Selling fireworks by mail. Me all I did was grow plants
Oct 28 10:07:08 <knotwork>	oh and sell them. growing is only up to 7 years, selling is up to life
Oct 28 10:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	um
Oct 28 10:08:01 <knotwork>	(Bench part is an Alicie's Restaurant reference)
Oct 28 10:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	were you in prison is the idea ?
Oct 28 10:08:36 <knotwork>	yeah 30 days served on weekends in the trailer outside the actua prison, with time off for good behavior.
Oct 28 10:08:52 <knotwork>	come in fiday night leave monday morning counts as four days
Oct 28 10:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	0.0
Oct 28 10:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	wtf they do this ?
Oct 28 10:09:34 <knotwork>	smells nicer than the state's evil weed and causes less cancer, plus might not pay tax! Eeeeeevil!
Oct 28 10:09:56 <knotwork>	not an approved means of weaning oneself off their evil weed :)
Oct 28 10:11:04 <knotwork>	hmm maybe weekend countes as 3 days. it counted for more than it really was for sure
Oct 28 10:11:40 <knotwork>	spent the last weekend at home in house arrest, their was too much weed in the prison so they let folk go home
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Oct 28 10:14:19 <knotwork>	I wasn't even actually proven to sell them, its assumed anyone with two cartons of smokes must be a dealer, no proof needed
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Oct 28 10:16:05 <OneMiner>	The one law has nothing to do with the other. Fireworks are explosives and can set fires easily. Guy got 10 months for it. Sounds kosher to me.
Oct 28 10:16:41 <knotwork>	I was willing to go to supreme court on that as assuming guilt so the dropped the selling charges and gave me 30 days weekends for the cultivation
Oct 28 10:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork wait a second. are you talking tobacco or pot ?
Oct 28 10:17:39 <knotwork>	actually it wasnt even selling charge its worded as possession with intent to sell so is not only assuming guilt its assuming intent
Oct 28 10:18:11 <knotwork>	mircea two cartons of pre-rolled hand-rolled homegrown-weed smokes
Oct 28 10:18:31 <knotwork>	and 14 neat tidy little pieces of resin
Oct 28 10:18:57 <knotwork>	(bought, before crop came in, to tide me over until crop was ripe)
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Oct 28 10:20:03 <knotwork>	bought stuff is too potent to be much use as a tobacco substritute too much effects-tobacco-doesnt-have :)
Oct 28 10:20:12 <knotwork>	thus, home grow
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Oct 28 10:22:52 <knotwork>	OneMiner haha for a moment I thought you mean Guy Ffawkes got ten months for it :)
Oct 28 10:23:18 <OneMiner>	Nope Mr. Ver. Who's this Guy?
Oct 28 10:23:53 <knotwork>	Remember Remember the Fifth of November? Does that rhyme now only refer to some 21st century movie?!?!?!
Oct 28 10:24:15 <knotwork>	Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot!??!
Oct 28 10:25:10 <knotwork>	He put fireworks under the Central Bank! (no, wait, just the houses of parliament, maybe not so bad?)
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Oct 28 10:26:42 <Chaaang-Noi>	they killed that guy...
Oct 28 10:26:49 <Chaaang-Noi>	drawn and quartered i think
Oct 28 10:28:07 <knotwork>	yeah I was prety sure he didn't just get 10 months :)
Oct 28 10:28:32 <OneMiner>	Ummm..... Don't know 'bout the 5th of Nov. Probably heard of it once.....
Oct 28 10:28:37 <OneMiner>	Rings a bell.
Oct 28 10:28:43 <knotwork>	some big nob was in the houses at the time else maybe it'd've been a misdeameanor or a service to the crown
Oct 28 10:29:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00045612 = 12.8626 BTC [+]
Oct 28 10:29:23 <knotwork>	Oneminer LMGTFY "Gunpowder plot"
Oct 28 10:30:18 <knotwork>	5th november is almost a national holiday so as never to forget
Oct 28 10:30:32 <OneMiner>	People who choose to solve their problems with explosives are not welcome near me, but I'll take a look at that anyways. ;)
Oct 28 10:30:33 <knotwork>	maybe actually a national holiday. not sure. maybe just a folk holiday
Oct 28 10:30:58 <knotwork>	like 4th july
Oct 28 10:31:08 <knotwork>	yay we nearly got free of crown and parliament!
Oct 28 10:32:00 <knotwork>	4th july is the more modern one, yay we DID get free of crown and parliament. braggarts. :)
Oct 28 10:33:44 <OneMiner>	The fact that there's still a royal family offends me too.
Oct 28 10:34:08 <knotwork>	oh gosh I was joking! We burn Guy in effigy on Nov 5th! Sheesh!
Oct 28 10:34:26 <OneMiner>	Sill offended.
Oct 28 10:34:29 <OneMiner>	still
Oct 28 10:34:32 <knotwork>	Suppose the Queen Mum had been in there!?!?! :)
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Oct 28 10:35:13 <OneMiner>	They should do the right thing and become citizens like everybody else instead of what I like to call "super citizens" most equal of the equals, you dig?
Oct 28 10:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	actually i'm the exact opposite persuasion
Oct 28 10:35:41 <OneMiner>	If you have someone above then it's possible to have others below. It's an argument for slavery in reverse.
Oct 28 10:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	the pretense that all "are equal" offends me.
Oct 28 10:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	there should be more priviledged.
Oct 28 10:36:03 <OneMiner>	^^ read above.
Oct 28 10:36:03 <knotwork>	Not so sure. Consider voters, bread, and circusses. Having someone trained to the task who can call for a vote of n o confidence seems it could have redeeming virtue
Oct 28 10:36:14 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner obviously there should be some below.
Oct 28 10:36:32 <OneMiner>	So, slavery. It's the natural conclusion, don't you think?
Oct 28 10:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	entire fucking point of life, society and inextricable part of human hapiness : soe being below.
Oct 28 10:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Oct 28 10:36:51 *	OneMiner gets the pitchforks and lights the torches.
Oct 28 10:37:01 *	mircea_popescu polishes the winchester.
Oct 28 10:37:20 <knotwork>	Bunch of Americans immigrates and votes in bunch of weirdo gunslinging bible belters I'll be praying yes please King William, call for a frakkin vote of no confidence pronto please its un-British!!!
Oct 28 10:37:32 <OneMiner>	Ha! wouldn't go well for you. You'd be defending and I'm a good shot. :P
Oct 28 10:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	OneEyed you're a good shot with torches ?
Oct 28 10:37:56 <mircea_popescu>	plebs don't get expensive smithwork.
Oct 28 10:38:04 <OneMiner>	Ether one, I could use a .22 and get it done as well.
Oct 28 10:38:05 <knotwork>	Burn OneMiner in effigy! Blow him up with good old Black Powder!
Oct 28 10:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	a .22 torch ?
Oct 28 10:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	or a .22 pitchfork
Oct 28 10:38:53 <OneMiner>	Well, I can tell you that if a person tries to put me in a class under them.... their time is limited at that point.
Oct 28 10:39:45 <mircea_popescu>	no one person tries to put you lol.
Oct 28 10:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	you either belong there or don't.
Oct 28 10:39:50 <knotwork>	Also aren't American Presidents more king in practice than, well, the Queen for example?
Oct 28 10:39:53 <OneMiner>	There's already a legal precident for that where I'm from.
Oct 28 10:40:04 <OneMiner>	knotwork no.
Oct 28 10:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	OneEyed do you have a dayjob ?
Oct 28 10:40:17 <OneMiner>	Checks and balances.
Oct 28 10:40:19 <OneMiner>	Nope.
Oct 28 10:40:27 <OneMiner>	Got some work needs doing?
Oct 28 10:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	haha no, but it's a simple test for class. there's three classes practically, the homeless, the employed, the idle.
Oct 28 10:41:00 <mircea_popescu>	in that order.
Oct 28 10:41:27 <knotwork>	OneMiner you'd insult the fans by refusing a knighthood if you were Mick Jagger or Captain Picard?!?!
Oct 28 10:42:04 <OneMiner>	Though I'd love the idea of being a knight..... I may have to refuse.
Oct 28 10:42:52 <OneMiner>	mircea_popescu is the order right? Homeless on top?
Oct 28 10:42:59 <knotwork>	Hey wait, Captain Kirk didn't get one? Hmm? Wasnt he too a Shakespearan real stage actor once?
Oct 28 10:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	homeless on the left :)
Oct 28 10:43:24 <OneMiner>	He was. Talks about how serious he took his roles.
Oct 28 10:43:46 <knotwork>	And he's not a Knight (yet) ?
Oct 28 10:44:08 <OneMiner>	Also what does being a knight have to do with fans? And why is pop culture grounds for kinghthood?
Oct 28 10:44:09 <knotwork>	Maybe his galactic skirt-chasing was unknighlt behavior
Oct 28 10:44:15 <OneMiner>	knighthood.
Oct 28 10:44:46 <knotwork>	Because its British! It doesn't have to make sense it just has to have a stiff upper lip! Sheesh!
Oct 28 10:44:51 <OneMiner>	mircea_popescu then the idle are on top? You've confused me with your list.
Oct 28 10:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner my plan. it works.
Oct 28 10:45:44 <OneMiner>	hahaha
Oct 28 10:47:30 <OneMiner>	Anyways. If the queen is only good for ceremony and drawing in tourists... then let her do that. They can be as royal as they want, just don't use any public monies or lands. Let them follow the same rules as everybody else if these rules are so good. Full disclosure: I'm not a UK citizen.
Oct 28 10:48:23 <knotwork>	OneMiner re fans, maybe the economy is so bad that selling a few platinum albums or popular movies is all that holds up the entire exchequer
Oct 28 10:48:43 <OneMiner>	Jesus, I hope not...
Oct 28 10:48:50 <OneMiner>	Anyways, it isn't.
Oct 28 10:49:14 <knotwork>	or, comparing Kirk to Picard for example, its about proper British behavior. (Oops lets forget Sir Mick a moment there)
Oct 28 10:50:19 <knotwork>	abe its about mollifying the masses by pretending to respect some of their idols
Oct 28 10:50:25 <knotwork>	s/abe/maybe/
Oct 28 10:50:41 <knotwork>	or hey, maybe actually respecting them even
Oct 28 10:51:55 <knotwork>	Disclaimer: I am a Brit, albeit permanant resident of Halifax NS Canada
Oct 28 10:53:15 <knotwork>	Maybe part of it is simply that it is personal. They have personal individual person to person responsibility to people
Oct 28 10:53:50 <knotwork>	it'd be an insult to ask a Brit to swear allegiance to the Queen, hance my not even considering becoming a Canadian citizen
Oct 28 10:54:26 <knotwork>	I'd have to swear allegiance to the Queen of Canada, which would be an insult to me as a subject of the Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Oct 28 10:54:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00045482 = 10.1425 BTC [-]
Oct 28 10:54:37 <knotwork>	by birth
Oct 28 10:55:31 <knotwork>	it's be like implying I am not her loyal subject already!!! :)
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Oct 28 11:10:39 <thestrin1puller>	i summon thee sir mircea_popescu
Oct 28 11:10:40 <thestrin1puller>	lol
Oct 28 11:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	lolwut
Oct 28 11:11:03 <thestrin1puller>	LOL i didn't expect it to work
Oct 28 11:11:10 <thestrin1puller>	I thought you'd be out getting laid by models
Oct 28 11:11:25 <thestrin1puller>	since you're more pivelaged than us working class folk
Oct 28 11:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	im a guy, i only get laid ocasionally.
Oct 28 11:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	only girls can do it continously.
Oct 28 11:13:13 <thestrin1puller>	i have a hacker friend like you
Oct 28 11:13:20 <thestrin1puller>	retired nvidia employee
Oct 28 11:13:25 <thestrin1puller>	new girl every night
Oct 28 11:13:26 <thestrin1puller>	lol
Oct 28 11:17:15 <thestrin1puller>	but in all srsness i think i may fork over money for an mpex account
Oct 28 11:18:01 <knotwork>	Wow ... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119745.msg1303342#msg1303342 ... I wonder if working one's way up from terminal operator in Imperial Bank of Commerce datacentre not allowed to punch cards but allowed to tell keypunch operators what to punch and trusted with the vault keys would be an at all useful start for such a career?
Oct 28 11:18:18 <knotwork>	valut combination I mean oops
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Oct 28 11:19:39 <thestrin1puller>	http://bitcoinfriday.com/ lol
Oct 28 11:19:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00045612 = 6.8874 BTC [+]
Oct 28 11:19:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10214 @ 0.00045646 = 4.6623 BTC [+]
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Oct 28 11:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Oct 28 11:24:56 <mircea_popescu>	that's one heck of a post right there knotwork
Oct 28 11:25:33 <knotwork>	yeah I almost did my shameless self-promoting blurb there but figured here would be more apropos
Oct 28 11:26:06 <knotwork>	(See what I did there!!?! Its implied its me that worked in CIBC datacentre! <<<<======== !!!!
Oct 28 11:26:33 <knotwork>	====>>> Back when we punched cards!!!! <<<======
Oct 28 11:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	so are you starting a bitcoinica clone ?
Oct 28 11:29:50 <knotwork>	Did I mention the time I called my friends from number ten downing street's own switchboard and plugged them into what's on in London in six diffrent languages and the speaking clock?
Oct 28 11:30:20 <knotwork>	No I am taking over the world (as a loyal subject of King Linus, of course)
Oct 28 11:31:20 <knotwork>	I am running so far two Open Transactions servers, the only public OT servers so far set up
Oct 28 11:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	man... how often are you intoxicated while on irc ? honest %
Oct 28 11:31:53 <knotwork>	actually its been months since I so much as had a beer
Oct 28 11:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	o ? what sort of disloyal subject are you!
Oct 28 11:34:22 <knotwork>	Starving datacentre-operator :)
Oct 28 11:34:44 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Oct 28 11:34:48 <knotwork>	brewing attracted too many fruitflies landlord made me stop
Oct 28 11:35:08 <thestrin1puller>	smoke weed instead
Oct 28 11:35:27 <thestrin1puller>	Dr. Dre has found it pretty profitable
Oct 28 11:35:34 <knotwork>	unfortunately I told judge I would not cultivate again :(
Oct 28 11:36:25 <thestrin1puller>	fudge the drug tests and smoke behind closed doors?
Oct 28 11:37:17 <knotwork>	well not while its still illegal anyway. if I'd gotten a permit before growing it would have been fine. if I'd had the money I maybe even could have bought a bale of legal weed to put on his bench to claim gee sorry I am late filing for a permit
Oct 28 11:37:51 <knotwork>	hmm or maybe permits werent actually available quite by the trial date they were in the works for sure
Oct 28 11:37:54 <thestrin1puller>	be a fugitive
Oct 28 11:37:56 <thestrin1puller>	flee the country
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Oct 28 11:38:22 <knotwork>	I am a Brit, this is a commonwealth country I should not have to flee it!
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Oct 28 11:38:50 <knotwork>	hmm actually maybe there is no commonwealth anymore? I recall in 70's there was talk of getting rid of it
Oct 28 11:38:58 <thestrin1puller>	if you want to smoke weed like Snoop Doggy you should
Oct 28 11:39:06 <thestrin1puller>	move to LA
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Oct 28 11:39:10 <thestrin1puller>	cultivate there
Oct 28 11:39:39 <knotwork>	oh sure I didnt tell judge I would not smoke it! but weed is more or less as expensive an indulgence for a starving datacentre-operator as beer is
Oct 28 11:40:08 <thestrin1puller>	not if you're a rappers posse, then it's free
Oct 28 11:40:15 <thestrin1puller>	not if you're in a rapper's posse*
Oct 28 11:40:43 <knotwork>	hmm around here its tobacco that is free, grams of it lying around in public in ashtrays free for the taking
Oct 28 11:41:19 <kakobrekla>	lol
Oct 28 11:41:27 <knotwork>	Maybe once usage tokens are working in Open Transactions I'll sell some and buy a beer to celebrate
Oct 28 11:42:09 <thestrin1puller>	I knew a kid once who smoked with Snoop. Apparently snoop carries a qp with him at all times? Anyhow he rolled like 9 cigar style blunts.
Oct 28 11:42:17 <thestrin1puller>	before a show
Oct 28 11:42:36 <thestrin1puller>	Even Katt Williams can't out smoke Snoop.
Oct 28 11:42:53 <knotwork>	well now you also know a kid who once called his friends from number ten downing street switchboard too :)
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Oct 28 11:44:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5124 @ 0.00045646 = 2.3389 BTC [+]
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Oct 28 11:44:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34176 @ 0.00045675 = 15.6099 BTC [+]
Oct 28 11:45:23 <Guest82297>	I need to turn off enforce
Oct 28 11:45:42 <knotwork>	on reconnect if old connect is still present your client appends a number to distinguish new connect, evidently also making sure the number falls into the 9 character nick limit some IRC servers (used to?) enforce
Oct 28 11:48:12 <Guest82297>	well blah
Oct 28 11:48:16 *	Guest82297 is now known as thepulledstring
Oct 28 11:48:20 <thepulledstring>	need to find an ircop
Oct 28 11:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	just msg nickserv release
Oct 28 11:48:43 <thepulledstring>	i don't remember my password
Oct 28 11:48:54 <thepulledstring>	cause I'm like Dori from Finding Nemo
Oct 28 11:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	omg scamming
Oct 28 11:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	it has an email address ? i think you can reset it
Oct 28 11:50:08 <knotwork>	Dori is a scammer?
Oct 28 11:52:00 <thepulledstring>	XD
Oct 28 11:52:07 <thepulledstring>	I will have an ircop do the automated mailer
Oct 28 11:52:16 <thepulledstring>	I never set the flag to reset pass
Oct 28 11:52:21 <thepulledstring>	I'm a n00b deal with it
Oct 28 11:52:22 <thepulledstring>	lol
Oct 28 11:52:23 <mircea_popescu>	whine to erry
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Oct 28 11:52:40 <thepulledstring>	i will
Oct 28 11:52:57 <thepulledstring>	erry is nice and resets my password for me because I have short term memory problems
Oct 28 12:07:06 <Azelphur>	thepulledstring: I suggest using keepass like I do
Oct 28 12:08:38 <sgornick>	> <mircea_popescu> sgornick : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/options-consumption-graphs/ graph porn
Oct 28 12:08:39 <sgornick>	> This article is available for a fee.
Oct 28 12:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	ouch you went over limit huh ?
Oct 28 12:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	hit a proxy!
Oct 28 12:10:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2138 @ 0.00045482 = 0.9724 BTC [-]
Oct 28 12:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17762 @ 0.00045462 = 8.075 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 12:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/10/analysis_of_how.html this is kinda cool
Oct 28 12:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	"Bitcoin is fundamentally flawed because it is a deflationary system, period."
Oct 28 12:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	i like these people :D
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Oct 28 12:14:36 <thepulledstring>	why do you "like them"
Oct 28 12:15:12 <thepulledstring>	sir mircea_popescu
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Oct 28 12:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	cause they make me laugh.
Oct 28 12:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, writing about it, back in a few
Oct 28 12:17:42 <thepulledstring>	American Pie 2 is weird
Oct 28 12:17:52 *	thepulledstring off topic
Oct 28 12:24:21 <knotwork>	Bankers ought to love bitcoin because being limited in supply it lets them control markets by with-holding medium of exchange as usual plus also possibly unlike gold it can be bubbled to any arbitrary value for use as "reserves" and might be cheaper to store too
Oct 28 12:25:18 <thepulledstring>	what makes you think they aren't secretly doing that?
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Oct 28 12:49:54 <mircea_popescu>	thepulledstring http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-chain-of-lol/
Oct 28 12:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	there you have it.
Oct 28 12:57:03 <thepulledstring>	"Overhormonal pubescent boys sometimes conjure this imaginary girl that has no family, no emotions, no expectations, needs no food or water, spends her entire day nude in a closet somewhere eagerly awaiting the amorous attentions of the young magician. The Bitcoin-killing quantum computer seems to share most of its traits with that magnificent dream of early teen years. Maybe it’s actually the same thing."
Oct 28 12:57:09 <thepulledstring>	that's a good line
Oct 28 13:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12076 @ 0.00045675 = 5.5157 BTC [+]
Oct 28 13:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38624 @ 0.00045749 = 17.6701 BTC [+]
Oct 28 13:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	:P\
Oct 28 13:02:49 <thepulledstring>	Romania must have awesome girls
Oct 28 13:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	kinda.
Oct 28 13:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	Reward-Drop ETA: 2012-11-29 11:09:04
Oct 28 13:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	already before noon on 29th
Oct 28 13:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26538 @ 0.00045462 = 12.0647 BTC [-]
Oct 28 13:25:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20815 @ 0.00045458 = 9.4621 BTC [-]
Oct 28 13:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4447 @ 0.00045391 = 2.0185 BTC [-]
Oct 28 13:31:34 <thepulledstring>	thanks for the PSA mircea_popescu
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Oct 28 13:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15982 @ 0.00045372 = 7.2514 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 14:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2501 @ 0.00045373 = 1.1348 BTC [-]
Oct 28 14:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13515 @ 0.00045372 = 6.132 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 15:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32259 @ 0.00045819 = 14.7808 BTC [+]
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Oct 28 15:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14302 @ 0.00045932 = 6.5692 BTC [+]
Oct 28 15:35:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2298 @ 0.00045972 = 1.0564 BTC [+]
Oct 28 15:35:10 <dub>	I think its safe to say EskimoBob is well endowed
Oct 28 15:35:28 <dub>	he's always looking for something looser
Oct 28 15:36:23 <jurov>	wat?
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Oct 28 15:40:23 <dub>	on the forum, he continually rants about stuff that is less tight that he is apparently comfortable with
Oct 28 15:40:48 <dub>	s/that/than
Oct 28 15:41:03 <jurov>	haha yes, he similarly bitched about mpex backup
Oct 28 15:42:27 <jurov>	anyway, i guess biggest dick around is..er... has mircea
Oct 28 15:42:32 <jurov>	cause i'm working on processing STATJSON
Oct 28 15:43:19 <jurov>	and i wonder whether they actually tested parsing with misc clients or he just said "do it so"
Oct 28 15:43:43 <dub>	we could infer that EskimoBob find pirate too tight
Oct 28 15:44:01 <dub>	as he is interested in pursuing his, looser, brother
Oct 28 15:44:02 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: *make it so
Oct 28 15:44:25 <jurov>	dates in nonstandard format, all numbers as "strings"... looks like MPExAgent will stay useful
Oct 28 15:44:47 <jurov>	thx diablo
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Oct 28 16:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3729 @ 0.0004584 = 1.7094 BTC [-]
Oct 28 16:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1075 @ 0.00045601 = 0.4902 BTC [-]
Oct 28 16:00:56 <jurov>	oh and "Header" : [{"key1":"value1"},{"key2":"value2"},..etc..] srsly?
Oct 28 16:03:20 *	thepulledstring toasts to capitalism
Oct 28 16:05:55 <jurov>	that will be converted into  "Header" : {"key1":"value1","key2":"value2"}
Oct 28 16:05:59 <jurov>	with #remove brain damage
Oct 28 16:06:05 <jurov>	comment above it
Oct 28 16:08:59 <jurov>	so... i'll appreciate donations of jsonstat samples (can be redacted, i'm just interested in format of all the parts)
Oct 28 16:12:05 <thepulledstring>	JSON is fo' haters
Oct 28 16:12:07 <thepulledstring>	XML ftw
Oct 28 16:13:14 <jurov>	someone pls kick him, that was outrageous flamebait
Oct 28 16:14:16 <jurov>	my spine just shivered when trying to imagine what kind of xml would mircea come up with
Oct 28 16:14:30 <jurov>	NOPE
Oct 28 16:14:32 <FabianB>	lol
Oct 28 16:15:05 <jurov>	NOPENOPENOPENOPE
Oct 28 16:15:08 <thepulledstring>	I thought we was cool jurov
Oct 28 16:16:47 <thepulledstring>	nopenopenope
Oct 28 16:16:54 <jurov>	already have jsonstat parser for your bots?
Oct 28 16:17:16 <thepulledstring>	you're building you're own parser?
Oct 28 16:17:58 <thepulledstring>	I use gson for all my json needs
Oct 28 16:18:33 <jurov>	i doubt gson or anything will help you with above
Oct 28 16:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	jurov everything's strings, what dates you talkin about ?
Oct 28 16:19:40 <thepulledstring>	jurov: we can perform an experiment for the non standard dates
Oct 28 16:19:59 <thepulledstring>	jurov: we can use java.util.SimpleDateFormat
Oct 28 16:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	for the record : {"Header":[ {"key1":"value1" }, {"key2":"value2" }]} | http://jsonlint.com/ => Valid JSON
Oct 28 16:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	so NYAH
Oct 28 16:23:28 <jurov>	for example javascript Date('Sunday the 28th of October 2012 at 07:11:07 PM') actually does work ... except that it thinks it's local time
Oct 28 16:24:41 <jurov>	and "Header:" is valid, i don't take issue with that. just that you have to iterate over it to find date/time
Oct 28 16:25:04 <jurov>	yes, it's minor issue. but completely unnecessary one.
Oct 28 16:25:07 <thepulledstring>	nyyyaaaaaah
Oct 28 16:25:11 <thepulledstring>	nyaaaaaaaah
Oct 28 16:25:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : the header isn't really intended for your use tho
Oct 28 16:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	you should know who you are
Oct 28 16:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25896 @ 0.0004559 = 11.806 BTC [-]
Oct 28 16:26:09 <mircea_popescu>	that stuff's there for the case you bring a complaint
Oct 28 16:27:07 <thepulledstring>	mircea_popescu: wut kind of complaint
Oct 28 16:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	"dude where's my car"
Oct 28 16:27:50 <thepulledstring>	:)
Oct 28 16:28:00 <dub>	according to this PM questions are best posed in bright green capitals with yellow fill
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Oct 28 16:29:29 <dub>	I think answers might be in 1pt blue on purple (can you do flashing marquee in m$ office?)
Oct 28 16:29:49 <jurov>	i do use that date at least for unit testing
Oct 28 16:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	anyone here use coinurl ?
Oct 28 16:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : you're prolly better off using the time string
Oct 28 16:30:33 <mod6>	(13:12) < thepulledstring> XML ftw
Oct 28 16:30:36 <mod6>	^^^ no
Oct 28 16:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	jurov and iirc the idea was that "everything as string" is the best choice for universal compatibility
Oct 28 16:36:01 <jurov>	i'm okay with fractional numbers as strings, that may be necessary to preserve accuracy. but wrapping integers into strings is overkill.
Oct 28 16:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	overkill saved the cat.
Oct 28 16:36:32 <jurov>	nyaaaaaaaan
Oct 28 16:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	think about the "larger integer than expected" case for instance.
Oct 28 16:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	(yes, i literally have nasa alumni on the team, they are ruining everyone's weekends with ideas such as "well what if this is used in outerspace")
Oct 28 16:39:00 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. should i put up a cannonical json response ?
Oct 28 16:40:23 <jurov>	at least these integers.. would save me(if not anyone else) some work
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Oct 28 16:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	where's that meme with CAST EVERYTHING
Oct 28 16:46:34 <dub>	thats whats up nigga
Oct 28 16:46:43 <dub>	oh, wrong win
Oct 28 16:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 28 16:48:02 <jurov>	yo dawg i herd you wanna intagars...
Oct 28 16:48:23 <dub>	perils of four monitors
Oct 28 16:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	more girlfriends less monitors dubby
Oct 28 16:51:06 <dub>	im a one gf kinda guy these days
Oct 28 16:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	one gf, one monitor, one fuhrer, one reich!
Oct 28 16:51:54 <dub>	though she has hinted at the possibility of shared vagoo
Oct 28 16:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00045794 = 5.4953 BTC [+]
Oct 28 16:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	hers ?
Oct 28 16:52:40 <dub>	nein, sharing another
Oct 28 16:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	usure?
Oct 28 16:53:26 <dub>	well yes, I think I would enforce a single penis policy but I guess you never know
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Oct 28 17:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8104 @ 0.00045794 = 3.7111 BTC [+]
Oct 28 17:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00045555 = 5.421 BTC [-]
Oct 28 17:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00045552 BTC [-]
Oct 28 17:21:34 <dub>	so what was the deal with roger ver?
Oct 28 17:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	apparently he got shipped to jale for a year
Oct 28 17:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	for selling firecrackers
Oct 28 17:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	i used to shot fuckers in the head and bury them in concrete pillars when i was his age, never was as much as charged.
Oct 28 17:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	he sells firecrackers, spends a year inside.
Oct 28 17:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	crazy world.
Oct 28 17:23:37 <dub>	hope the pillars aren't load bearing
Oct 28 17:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	dub, the master of the double entendre
Oct 28 17:31:58 <jurov>	lol...somebody should add that to those porn accusations on btctalk "beware, mpex is owned by assassin and pornstar"
Oct 28 17:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	i thought the girl was the pornstar
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Oct 28 17:33:01 <jurov>	she has her share, no?
Oct 28 17:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 28 17:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile, get a load of this http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/coinurl-a-bitcoin-advertising-service/
Oct 28 17:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	and especially the comments.
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Oct 28 17:36:33 <dub>	mushroom mushroom
Oct 28 17:40:23 <dub>	my new favorite forum post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg773754#msg773754
Oct 28 17:40:32 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: heh, re rodger ver: i'm one of those peeps who defaults to thinking that his ex-con status was brought about by the gov't interferring with people's right to freely interract with one another
Oct 28 17:41:07 <smickles>	dub: awesome
Oct 28 17:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i do agree criminal convictions for having sold firecrackers at the age of 20 are a shameful display of statal stupidity.
Oct 28 17:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha dub
Oct 28 17:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	isn't history cute.
Oct 28 17:42:14 <smickles>	dub: I wan't to shouth that link from the rooftops
Oct 28 17:42:19 <smickles>	*shout
Oct 28 17:42:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00045953 = 11.5802 BTC [+]
Oct 28 17:42:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2104 @ 0.00045972 = 0.9673 BTC [+]
Oct 28 17:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00045994 = 2.2997 BTC [+]
Oct 28 17:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3595 @ 0.00045998 = 1.6536 BTC [+]
Oct 28 17:42:52 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... sssspectacular
Oct 28 17:44:24 <jurov>	when cracked does top 10 spectacular btctalk posts, it will be there
Oct 28 17:47:55 <jurov>	re:tracking - it surprised me a bit i got much more visitors from reddit than from btctalk.. looks like there's much bigger lurking to BS ratio
Oct 28 17:49:31 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 28 17:49:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.65998, Best ask: 10.65999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 10.65998, 24 hour volume: 18472.24445661, 24 hour low: 10.24998, 24 hour high: 10.69800, 24 hour vwap: 10.47636
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Oct 28 18:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.00045807 = 21.3461 BTC [-]
Oct 28 18:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00045552 = 1.6854 BTC [-]
Oct 28 18:08:25 <thepulledstring>	mircea_popescu: you committed murder?
Oct 28 18:09:45 <jurov>	lmao
Oct 28 18:10:04 <thepulledstring>	jurov deposit coming in!
Oct 28 18:10:53 <thepulledstring>	how long will it take to hit?
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Oct 28 18:12:09 <jurov>	lemme see
Oct 28 18:13:29 <thepulledstring>	also any reason puts are so expensive this month?
Oct 28 18:17:31 <thepulledstring>	it's not much
Oct 28 18:17:42 <thepulledstring>	but i'm funding from multiple sources over the next few days
Oct 28 18:23:28 <jurov>	thepulledstring, you're in
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Oct 28 18:24:48 <jurov>	if you want to pull doublespend on me, act quickly now ;)
Oct 28 18:25:45 <dub>	act now and receive twice teh bitcoins and for a limited time a ginsu shoe and tomato paring knife
Oct 28 18:27:57 <thepulledstring>	not at all jurov
Oct 28 18:28:02 <thepulledstring>	lemme know when it clears
Oct 28 18:28:09 <thepulledstring>	and I'll make the trades I want
Oct 28 18:28:21 <thepulledstring>	I just wanted to get ahead of the calls since mircea_popescu posted the block halve eta
Oct 28 18:29:15 <dub>	any of you guys in NYC?
Oct 28 18:29:32 <dub>	apparently shit is real now, mcdonalds is closed
Oct 28 18:30:02 <thepulledstring>	wait what?
Oct 28 18:30:23 <PsychoticBoy>	Islam invasion, First thing to do: CLOSE MCDONALDS
Oct 28 18:30:24 <thepulledstring>	hurricane?
Oct 28 18:30:58 <dub>	ya
Oct 28 18:31:15 <jurov>	thepulledstring, you CAN trade nao
Oct 28 18:31:20 <Azelphur>	dub: I just pasted that to my hosting providers (based in NYC) lol
Oct 28 18:31:26 <Azelphur>	hilarity insued :P
Oct 28 18:31:43 <dub>	PsychoticBoy: pretty sure mcdonalds is the last thing to close in any eventuality, 'murricans gotta get dat burger
Oct 28 18:31:58 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Oct 28 18:32:03 <thepulledstring>	murican's rule tho
Oct 28 18:32:07 <thepulledstring>	Capitalism is awesoe
Oct 28 18:32:10 <thepulledstring>	awesome
Oct 28 18:32:27 <dub>	they'll be out with the zombies lined up on mobility scooters for the drivethru
Oct 28 18:32:44 <dub>	thepulledstring: fuck yeah
Oct 28 18:33:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5605 @ 0.00045998 = 2.5782 BTC [+]
Oct 28 18:34:57 <thepulledstring>	we should take bets on if asics drop before the reward half or after
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Oct 28 18:46:23 <smickles>	'merica, fuck yea! TITS and BEER and pussY and TITS!
Oct 28 18:47:21 <thepulledstring>	smickles: aren't you american?
Oct 28 18:48:01 <smickles>	i try not to define myself by something so base as what somet people call the ground i walk on ;)
Oct 28 18:48:43 <thepulledstring>	i originally thought you were of non-american nationality so I guess it works for you lol
Oct 28 18:48:52 <smickles>	:D
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Oct 28 18:49:10 <thepulledstring>	also thanks for the mini margin, helped me practice trading
Oct 28 18:49:22 <smickles>	thepulledstring: i still have that btc 'on account' for you
Oct 28 18:49:41 <thepulledstring>	:D
Oct 28 18:49:49 <thepulledstring>	It'll stay as reserve for now
Oct 28 18:49:57 <thepulledstring>	until I can get in touch with my economy advisor
Oct 28 18:50:03 <smickles>	np, take as long as you want
Oct 28 18:50:20 <thepulledstring>	she's young and is easily wooed by boys (my biggest fear)
Oct 28 18:50:21 <smickles>	if i get good at what i'm doing, i'll start giving you a bit of interest
Oct 28 18:50:34 <thepulledstring>	:D
Oct 28 18:50:38 <thepulledstring>	i love this community
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Oct 28 18:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	im all for closing mcd
Oct 28 18:51:37 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TiXUF9xbTo
Oct 28 18:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	and this isnt a community. there's no girls
Oct 28 18:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	so there's not what to community.
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Oct 28 18:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00045552 = 7.6072 BTC [-]
Oct 28 19:00:42 <thepulledstring>	i can get a girl in here
Oct 28 19:00:44 <thepulledstring>	she's 17
Oct 28 19:00:46 <thepulledstring>	but
Oct 28 19:00:53 <thepulledstring>	it's still a girl =P
Oct 28 19:01:05 <thepulledstring>	we all know how mircea_popescu likes em young
Oct 28 19:01:08 <dub>	not on the internet it isnt
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Oct 28 19:03:43 <thepulledstring>	mircea_popescu: is your hair gray now
Oct 28 19:03:44 <thepulledstring>	?*
Oct 28 19:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	just my beard
Oct 28 19:08:45 <mircea_popescu>	an' i don't like them young, i like em juicy.
Oct 28 19:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which, i'm off to bed. take care all!
Oct 28 19:09:27 <jurov>	me too
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Oct 28 19:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24299 @ 0.00045552 = 11.0687 BTC [-]
Oct 28 19:23:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28701 @ 0.00045506 = 13.0607 BTC [-]
Oct 28 19:24:56 <smickles>	thepulledstring, lol, weren't you thestringpuller earlier?
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Oct 28 19:26:41 <smickles>	enforced yourself out of a nick?
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Oct 28 19:40:08 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 28 19:40:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.75634, Best ask: 10.78500, Bid-ask spread: 0.02866, Last trade: 10.78697, 24 hour volume: 23311.33180921, 24 hour low: 10.24998, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.55886
Oct 28 19:40:12 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Oct 28 19:40:13 <gribble>	10.50
Oct 28 19:42:01 <thepulledstring>	smickles: yea i got locked out of my name again
Oct 28 19:42:08 <thepulledstring>	cause I'm a n00b like that
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Oct 28 19:48:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3413 @ 0.00045506 = 1.5531 BTC [-]
Oct 28 19:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00045489 = 1.2282 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 19:59:52 <dub>	whats with the shit eating grin on every obama pr pic
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Oct 28 20:03:58 <thepulledstring>	smickles: did usagi turn out to be a scammer (i remember he/she defaulted on a loan)
Oct 28 20:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00045387 = 3.3133 BTC [-]
Oct 28 20:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18094 @ 0.00045383 = 8.2116 BTC [-]
Oct 28 20:14:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21103 @ 0.00045372 = 9.5749 BTC [-]
Oct 28 20:14:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3203 @ 0.00045347 = 1.4525 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 20:39:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6787 @ 0.00045401 = 3.0814 BTC [+]
Oct 28 20:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38713 @ 0.00045625 = 17.6628 BTC [+]
Oct 28 20:57:00 <dub>	surfs up
Oct 28 20:57:01 <dub>	http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41048
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Oct 28 21:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14797 @ 0.00045347 = 6.71 BTC [-]
Oct 28 21:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27603 @ 0.00045298 = 12.5036 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 21:19:24 <sgornick>	Can multiple orders be issued at once?  e.g., cancel multiple orders with a command separator?  e.g., "CANCEL|1234!CANCEL|3456" ?
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Oct 28 21:21:04 <SupaDupa>	Looking For $100 PayPal Loan Paying $115 on or before November 2nd 2012
Oct 28 21:22:33 <thepulledstring>	buy me calls and you got a deal
Oct 28 21:23:41 <SupaDupa>	calls?
Oct 28 21:24:26 <SupaDupa>	Call of Duty?
Oct 28 21:24:36 <thepulledstring>	calls at 11 usd
Oct 28 21:24:42 <dub>	like the calls your mom makes to come pick her up from jail
Oct 28 21:25:18 <SupaDupa>	wtf
Oct 28 21:25:51 <SupaDupa>	you going to jail or something thepulledstring ?
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Oct 28 21:27:42 <SupaDupa>	Looking For $100 PayPal Loan Paying $115 on or before November 2nd 2012
Oct 28 21:28:24 <thestringpuller>	why don't you start a ponzi scheme?
Oct 28 21:28:30 <thestringpuller>	it'd be more profitable
Oct 28 21:29:06 <SupaDupa>	no thanks
Oct 28 21:30:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6887 @ 0.00045625 = 3.1422 BTC [+]
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Oct 28 21:30:43 <smickles>	< thepulledstring> smickles: did usagi turn out to be a scammer (i remember he/she defaulted on a loan) << not by the standards of that forum
Oct 28 21:31:06 <smickles>	we came to an agreeable solution outside the terms of the contract
Oct 28 21:32:07 <thestringpuller>	would you continue to do business with usagi smickles ?
Oct 28 21:32:13 <thestringpuller>	I trust your judgement more than anyone
Oct 28 21:35:50 <smickles>	thestringpuller: no
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Oct 28 21:36:29 <smickles>	rather than trying to work out a solution, usagi used logical fallacies to try to weasel out of it
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Oct 28 21:36:50 <smickles>	not a good thing to see in a business partner
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Oct 28 21:37:03 <thestringpuller>	supadupa is annoying as hell
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Oct 28 21:37:23 <thestringpuller>	it's not gonna work supadupa they changed the flood rules
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Oct 28 21:39:02 <thestringpuller>	idiot scammers
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Oct 28 21:42:13 <dub>	 /ignore *!*@24.69.197.34 JOINS PARTS
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Oct 28 21:50:11 <thestringpuller>	thanks kakobrekla
Oct 28 21:50:33 <kakobrekla>	im always late to the party.
Oct 28 21:51:43 <kakobrekla>	now im gonna get like 5 -10 ratings or something.
Oct 28 21:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00045998 = 10.0736 BTC [+]
Oct 28 21:58:27 <thestringpuller>	why would you get a bunch of negative ratings?
Oct 28 21:58:33 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating kakobrekla
Oct 28 21:58:34 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User kakobrekla, rated since Fri May 13 15:50:53 2011. Cumulative rating 85, from 49 total ratings. Received ratings: 49 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 50 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=kakobrekla
Oct 28 22:00:04 <kakobrekla>	02:34.51 ( Azelphur ) http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=SupaDupaJenkins&type=RECV&sign=ANY xD
Oct 28 22:00:04 <kakobrekla>	02:35.18 ( SupaDupa ) so?
Oct 28 22:00:04 <kakobrekla>	02:35.26 ( SupaDupa ) otc means something now?
Oct 28 22:00:04 <kakobrekla>	02:35.36 ( SupaDupa ) remember when I gave everyone -10
Oct 28 22:00:04 <kakobrekla>	02:35.40 ( SupaDupa ) and they couldn't do shit about it
Oct 28 22:00:04 <kakobrekla>	02:35.47 ( SupaDupa ) and nanotube had to hotfix it
Oct 28 22:00:05 <kakobrekla>	02:35.51 ( A_ ) SupaDupa: grow up child
Oct 28 22:00:23 <kakobrekla>	not sure if nano did fix anything though that would not be most correct.
Oct 28 22:00:39 <thestringpuller>	you have 0 negative ratings
Oct 28 22:00:52 <Azelphur>	afaik nano didn't fix anything :(
Oct 28 22:01:07 <Azelphur>	there was talk of dropping getrating and using gettrust, but gettrust doesn't work in all situations
Oct 28 22:01:13 <Azelphur>	a way to reply to ratings would be nice
Oct 28 22:04:24 <kakobrekla>	thestringpuller, he owns several otc accounts which he uses to damage other peoples sum of ratings
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Oct 28 22:15:30 <thestringpuller>	what a douche
Oct 28 22:15:32 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 28 22:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00045746 = 10.0184 BTC [-]
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Oct 28 22:39:31 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 28 22:39:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.55218, Best ask: 10.55770, Bid-ask spread: 0.00552, Last trade: 10.55150, 24 hour volume: 32586.31914436, 24 hour low: 10.25213, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.63345
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Oct 28 22:40:29 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121073.0
Oct 28 22:40:47 <dub>	1. Pay for house with bitcoin, settle legal shit
Oct 28 22:41:10 <dub>	2. Rob house, stealing wallet containing computer
Oct 28 22:41:13 <dub>	3. ???
Oct 28 22:42:00 <thestringpuller>	i live in atlanta
Oct 28 22:42:01 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 28 22:42:52 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (11.30 - 11) / 11.30
Oct 28 22:42:53 <gribble>	0.0265486725664
Oct 28 22:43:02 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (11.90 - 11) / 11.90
Oct 28 22:43:03 <gribble>	0.0756302521008
Oct 28 22:43:10 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (12 - 11) / 12
Oct 28 22:43:10 <gribble>	0.0833333333333
Oct 28 22:44:20 <dub>	im surprised we haven't heard about some physical bitcoin crime yet
Oct 28 22:45:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00045998 = 1.9779 BTC [+]
Oct 28 22:46:01 <thestringpuller>	that'll happen when people trade physical bitcoin for illicit thigns
Oct 28 22:46:03 <thestringpuller>	things*
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Oct 28 22:46:06 <dub>	person has significant stash of suitably soluble asset probably has physical security, safe/guns/etc
Oct 28 22:46:17 <dub>	person has significant bitcoin probably has acne
Oct 28 22:46:26 <thestringpuller>	not always
Oct 28 22:46:27 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 28 22:47:09 <thestringpuller>	why are the call/put contracts so expensive?
Oct 28 22:47:17 <thestringpuller>	i guess that's a question for mircea
Oct 28 23:11:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00045998 = 7.0837 BTC [+]
Oct 28 23:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00046084 = 1.0599 BTC [+]
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Oct 28 23:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11988 @ 0.00045877 = 5.4997 BTC [-]
Oct 28 23:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6113 @ 0.00045746 = 2.7965 BTC [-]
Oct 28 23:51:53 <rg>	dub: who should we rob
Oct 28 23:51:55 <rg>	mircea?
Oct 28 23:52:11 <rg>	he probably has like 50k btc
Oct 28 23:54:20 <dub>	fuck that you don't rob a romainian, they rob you
Oct 28 23:54:53 <dub>	someone like gavin is who you want
Oct 28 23:55:11 <dub>	- 100lb poindexter, check
Oct 28 23:55:20 <dub>	- lives in moms basement, check
Oct 28 23:58:42 <dub>	mircea has army of heavily armed underage prostitutes guarding his shit
Oct 28 23:59:37 <dub>	ready to carve you up and sell your organs on black market
Oct 29 00:00:36 <dub>	and USD$7 to make the cops back him up
Oct 29 00:02:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00045576 = 5.4235 BTC [-]
Oct 29 00:11:39 <dub>	so NYSE shut today, big volume on gox?
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Oct 29 00:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00045299 = 0.906 BTC [-]
Oct 29 00:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13897 @ 0.00045298 = 6.2951 BTC [-]
Oct 29 00:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00045261 = 12.311 BTC [-]
Oct 29 00:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7503 @ 0.00045247 = 3.3949 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 00:41:18 <thestringpuller>	dub: lets rob mircea
Oct 29 00:41:23 <thestringpuller>	go to romania
Oct 29 00:41:30 <thestringpuller>	with some russians
Oct 29 00:43:45 <dub>	well yeah
Oct 29 00:46:10 <smickles>	someone, be the third in a monopoly game
Oct 29 00:46:18 <smickles>	.2btc buy in :)
Oct 29 00:47:05 <thestringpuller>	monopoly with btc money?
Oct 29 00:47:22 <thestringpuller>	sounds....intriguing if it is real and not a joke i am not gettinf
Oct 29 00:47:27 <smickles>	not quite, monopoly with monopoly money, but if you win, the others pay you .2btc
Oct 29 00:47:36 <smickles>	thestringpuller: get a monopd client
Oct 29 00:47:50 <smickles>	 and join #bitcoin-monopoly
Oct 29 00:49:17 <smickles>	thestringpuller: *zombie voice* JOIN US
Oct 29 00:50:12 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 29 00:50:20 <thestringpuller>	finding monopd
Oct 29 00:51:02 <smickles>	http://www.psmonopoly.com/download-monopoly is one place to get one of the clients
Oct 29 00:52:12 <bitfoo>	I use http://www.linux-ecke.de/Capitalism/
Oct 29 00:52:22 <bitfoo>	(monopoly client)
Oct 29 00:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00045333 = 7.0719 BTC [+]
Oct 29 00:52:33 <smickles>	i actually use GtkAtlantic
Oct 29 00:52:44 <smickles>	(it was in the ubuntu repository)
Oct 29 00:52:49 <bitfoo>	capitalism is too
Oct 29 00:52:51 <smickles>	(and i was lazy)
Oct 29 00:52:55 <bitfoo>	unless I added an apt source
Oct 29 00:53:00 <smickles>	really? i couldn't find it
Oct 29 00:53:25 <smickles>	gtkatlantic only crashes every once-in-a-whinle
Oct 29 00:53:28 <smickles>	*while
Oct 29 00:53:33 <bitfoo>	oh yeah, I have capitalism from a third party repo
Oct 29 00:53:54 <bitfoo>	deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu precise-getdeb games
Oct 29 00:54:08 <smickles>	precise-GETDEB ?
Oct 29 00:54:17 <bitfoo>	yeah
Oct 29 00:54:22 <bitfoo>	if you're using precise, that is
Oct 29 00:54:25 <smickles>	why didn't they just name it precise?
Oct 29 00:54:32 <bitfoo>	heh
Oct 29 00:54:33 <bitfoo>	no idea
Oct 29 00:56:20 <thestringpuller>	lets gamble
Oct 29 00:56:25 <thestringpuller>	got gtkatlantic
Oct 29 00:56:29 <thestringpuller>	gtkatlantic*
Oct 29 00:56:40 <bitfoo>	let's also join the appropriate channel :)
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Oct 29 01:17:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27017 @ 0.00045247 = 12.2244 BTC [-]
Oct 29 01:17:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16483 @ 0.0004523 = 7.4553 BTC [-]
Oct 29 01:19:03 <knotwork>	where do you get recent monpd ? sourceforge files are from 2003 and their link to game's own site is redirected somewhere different seemingly unrelated
Oct 29 01:19:19 <knotwork>	oops never mind I see link above now
Oct 29 01:19:59 <knotwork>	there are people playing monopoly for quite large amounts of money apparently
Oct 29 01:20:09 <knotwork>	high stakes gaming is an interesting niche
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Oct 29 01:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00045333 = 12.2399 BTC [+]
Oct 29 01:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17799 @ 0.00045695 = 8.1333 BTC [+]
Oct 29 01:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00046084 = 1.7051 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 02:11:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00045436 = 11.7679 BTC [-]
Oct 29 02:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00045352 = 5.8958 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 02:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18306 @ 0.00045916 = 8.4054 BTC [+]
Oct 29 03:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.0004606 = 1.8885 BTC [+]
Oct 29 03:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6651 @ 0.00045916 = 3.0539 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 03:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00045352 = 16.7349 BTC [-]
Oct 29 03:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00045342 = 2.4031 BTC [-]
Oct 29 03:32:29 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: do STAT and STATJSON have independant 'last hour before last stat's?
Oct 29 03:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Oct 29 03:32:47 <smickles>	kk, thx
Oct 29 03:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/129kbw/reddit_kinda_want/
Oct 29 03:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone wants to vote me and piss off reddit :D
Oct 29 03:39:31 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/new/?sort=rising mircea_popescu you own it
Oct 29 03:40:25 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Oct 29 03:43:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/since-ive-been-checking-stats-anyway/#comment-90134 lol is that you smickles ?
Oct 29 03:45:04 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it couldn't be :x
Oct 29 03:45:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol ynot ?
Oct 29 03:46:47 <smickles>	no good reason
Oct 29 03:47:03 <smickles>	😈
Oct 29 03:48:09 <rg>	i spoiled an active $500 scam today
Oct 29 03:48:11 <rg>	;-D
Oct 29 03:48:23 <rg>	s/spoiled/foiled/
Oct 29 03:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	wd!
Oct 29 03:54:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/122wqi/gpg_should_be_replaced_with_btc_my_reply_to_gpg/c6t9w62
Oct 29 03:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	btw, this seems like quite valuable discussion.
Oct 29 03:55:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00045439 = 4.4985 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:00:30 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you have a reddit account now/?S?S!?
Oct 29 04:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Oct 29 04:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	i just made it!
Oct 29 04:02:38 <smickles>	OMG, ! I was your first upvote!
Oct 29 04:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	>D
Oct 29 04:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	brff!
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Oct 29 04:14:41 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121031.0 the forum delivers.
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Oct 29 04:21:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00045342 = 4.7609 BTC [-]
Oct 29 04:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34201 @ 0.00045313 = 15.4975 BTC [-]
Oct 29 04:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7608 @ 0.0004523 = 3.4411 BTC [-]
Oct 29 04:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2591 @ 0.0004522 = 1.1717 BTC [-]
Oct 29 04:28:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00045439 = 2.8172 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43100 @ 0.00045556 = 19.6346 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00045601 = 17.0092 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22749 @ 0.00045856 = 10.4318 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45300 @ 0.00046009 = 20.8421 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2127 @ 0.00046084 = 0.9802 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50100 @ 0.00046124 = 23.1081 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.00046243 = 18.6359 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.0004629 = 13.3315 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00046303 = 11.6684 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34918 @ 0.0004633 = 16.1775 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46000 @ 0.0004633 = 21.3118 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44800 @ 0.00046437 = 20.8038 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15157 @ 0.00046468 = 7.0432 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28488 @ 0.00046593 = 13.2734 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2412 @ 0.00046606 = 1.1241 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43033 @ 0.0004662 = 20.062 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17692 @ 0.00046626 = 8.2491 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5821 @ 0.00046633 = 2.7145 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00046675 = 18.6233 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00046689 = 8.7308 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00046932 = 4.7401 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00046943 = 16.8995 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3535 @ 0.00047048 = 1.6631 BTC [+]
Oct 29 04:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00047115 = 13.3335 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 04:28:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50391 @ 0.00047612 = 23.9922 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 05:14:23 <EskimoBob>	dub: wtf are you blabbering about :) -> "dub | he's always looking for something looser" ???
Oct 29 05:17:44 <dub>	you seem obsessed with the viscosity of forum participants
Oct 29 05:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/lets-dig-a-little-deeper-into-this-entire-deflation-problem/
Oct 29 05:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	^^ read that
Oct 29 05:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00046675 = 5.6477 BTC [+]
Oct 29 05:23:56 <dub>	IBM can it be carbon nanotube mining asic tiem? http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/i-b-m-reports-nanotube-chip-breakthrough/?smid=pl-share
Oct 29 05:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	omg nanotube!
Oct 29 05:46:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00046082 = 9.6772 BTC [-]
Oct 29 05:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51700 @ 0.00046457 = 24.0183 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 05:52:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00046975 = 17.2868 BTC [+]
Oct 29 05:52:54 <dub>	jesus http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1591447/Coast-Guard-responds-to-vessel-in-distress-160-miles-from-hurricane-s-center
Oct 29 05:53:53 <dub>	that sea like that is not a lot of fun I can tell you
Oct 29 06:05:49 <Chaaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121093.0 i loled
Oct 29 06:08:12 <Chaaang-Noi>	also the sec investigation seems to be more going after glbse asset listers than pirate
Oct 29 06:08:18 <Chaaang-Noi>	the investigation startedin paril
Oct 29 06:08:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	april
Oct 29 06:08:35 <Chaaang-Noi>	before any ppt where on glbse
Oct 29 06:08:50 <dub>	link?
Oct 29 06:16:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	no link
Oct 29 06:16:47 <Chaaang-Noi>	evidently it just got big when pirate failed and they passed it up to the bigger guy
Oct 29 06:16:51 <Chaaang-Noi>	the current guy
Oct 29 06:17:14 <Chaaang-Noi>	but the case started out as anti glbse the case is called "bitcoin securities"
Oct 29 06:17:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	pirate did not have a security so i thought it was kinda odd the sec was going after him, as all he did was borrow money
Oct 29 06:18:09 <Chaaang-Noi>	so the sec might have gone after nefario, maybe that is why he shit himself and closed it down
Oct 29 06:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7473 @ 0.00046082 = 3.4437 BTC [-]
Oct 29 06:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00045916 = 12.4892 BTC [-]
Oct 29 06:26:03 <Anduck>	Chaaang-Noi: u got banned at bitcointalk?
Oct 29 06:26:40 <Anduck>	for what
Oct 29 06:28:33 <Chaaang-Noi>	"trolling" but it was about glbse stuff and theymos
Oct 29 06:28:50 <Chaaang-Noi>	theymos wanted to shut me up, so called me a troll and perma banned me with out warning
Oct 29 06:29:37 <Chaaang-Noi>	he said he might un ban me after the glbse stuff is over... he is just getting rid of people with info about him
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Oct 29 06:33:09 <Chaaang-Noi>	theymos did not like the fact that i told him it was wrong for him to ask people to not send the double payments back to nefario
Oct 29 06:33:14 <Chaaang-Noi>	stuff like that, he called "trolling"
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Oct 29 07:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00045793 = 4.9914 BTC [+]
Oct 29 07:24:01 <EskimoBob>	Chaaang-Noi: did theymos ever get doxed?
Oct 29 07:27:06 <Chaaang-Noi>	http://www.theymos.com/
Oct 29 07:27:42 <Chaaang-Noi>	i dont know about doxed but people ahve tracked him down
Oct 29 07:27:56 <Chaaang-Noi>	like i dont think anyone has a copy of his passport or anything
Oct 29 07:28:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	the FBI could get him if they wanted to with no problem
Oct 29 07:28:22 <Chaaang-Noi>	fbi does that sort of thing for the sec
Oct 29 07:28:47 <Chaaang-Noi>	im not saying the sec will want him but he might be more of a target than pirate
Oct 29 07:31:37 <rg>	FBI probably already has it
Oct 29 07:31:44 <rg>	they probably called MtGox and were like ey
Oct 29 07:31:48 <rg>	you know that business we let you run?
Oct 29 07:32:01 <rg>	we're going to take the millions of dollars away from you
Oct 29 07:32:03 <rg>	and ruin you
Oct 29 07:32:08 <rg>	unless you gve us the info we want
Oct 29 07:35:02 <Chaaang-Noi>	they already give that info to the DEA on request
Oct 29 07:35:23 <Chaaang-Noi>	i think its why they "randomly" lock accounts and demand aml docs
Oct 29 07:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2927 @ 0.00045793 = 1.3404 BTC [+]
Oct 29 07:36:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00045892 = 9.1784 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 08:43:41 <knotwork>	Chaaang-Noi, check out http://192.168.2.8:8081 would it be any use for people looking for something browser-based they can use to interact with their shareholders?
Oct 29 08:43:56 <knotwork>	oops wrong URL haha
Oct 29 08:44:47 <knotwork>	http://wxi2mgugw4732xs7.onion:8081
Oct 29 08:45:37 <knotwork>	it is unzip-and-run java app if you use its standlone version which is what I did
Oct 29 08:46:25 <knotwork>	and has more features than I have had time to explore yet
Oct 29 08:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1289 @ 0.00045964 = 0.5925 BTC [+]
Oct 29 08:53:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20611 @ 0.00045955 = 9.4718 BTC [-]
Oct 29 08:53:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28623 @ 0.00045955 = 13.1537 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 09:12:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00339944 = 0.034 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 09:26:08 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: so theymos banned you
Oct 29 09:26:18 <Chaaang-Noi>	lol days ago
Oct 29 09:26:29 <kakobrekla>	o what?
Oct 29 09:26:30 <Chaaang-Noi>	maged did not even know for a day
Oct 29 09:26:32 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Oct 29 09:26:44 <Chaaang-Noi>	url for a perrma ban?
Oct 29 09:26:51 <kakobrekla>	theres not post about it?
Oct 29 09:26:55 <kakobrekla>	no*
Oct 29 09:27:28 <Chaaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120102.40   mostly trolls and supporting posts have been deleated
Oct 29 09:27:30 <Chaaang-Noi>	some of them
Oct 29 09:27:43 <Chaaang-Noi>	the posts questioning theymos were deleated, i dont know by whom
Oct 29 09:27:50 <Chaaang-Noi>	also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121093.0
Oct 29 09:28:22 <Chaaang-Noi>	theymos was upset
Oct 29 09:28:31 <Chaaang-Noi>	oh well.. i just pointed out things he did...
Oct 29 09:30:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	also despite people saying i was warned i was not
Oct 29 09:32:28 <veemirc>	that's a pretty pathetic way to get rid of opposition
Oct 29 09:35:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	i was not even really opposition
Oct 29 09:35:26 <Chaaang-Noi>	i just pointed out that theymos telling people to not send nefario the double payments back was wrong
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Oct 29 09:35:50 <Diablo-D3>	well, I doubt Im ever going to get the shareholder info
Oct 29 09:35:55 <Diablo-D3>	so /me frowns
Oct 29 09:35:56 <Chaaang-Noi>	and that givng theymos a scammers tag for abusing the stock holders in glbse global was wrong cuz they had a vote and nefario won over 50% to ahve it shut down
Oct 29 09:36:10 <Chaaang-Noi>	i said nefario was a scammer but for differnt reasons
Oct 29 09:36:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	theymos did not like it...
Oct 29 09:36:35 <Chaaang-Noi>	also found out some bad news for him and other about the SEC investigation
Oct 29 09:36:51 <Chaaang-Noi>	seems the investigation started in april, before the PPTs
Oct 29 09:37:00 <Chaaang-Noi>	its called "bitcoin securities"
Oct 29 09:37:13 <Chaaang-Noi>	i dont think pirate was their org goal and still might not be
Oct 29 09:37:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	glbse, its owers and asset issuers i think are the real targets
Oct 29 09:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00046203 = 16.6793 BTC [+]
Oct 29 09:37:59 <Chaaang-Noi>	theymos as on record as saying he thought it was a ponzi and then asking people to list ppts on glbse makes him open to a lot of shit
Oct 29 09:38:10 <Chaaang-Noi>	esp since he was making money off of it
Oct 29 09:38:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	i hope the sec does not do anything but i wouldnot be shocked if theymos and all communication from the forum is requested
Oct 29 09:39:23 <Chaaang-Noi>	its seems the SEC investigation got much bigger when pirate had his fail and then they moved it up to the big guy now
Oct 29 09:39:33 <Chaaang-Noi>	he did not start it, he took over about a month ago
Oct 29 09:39:51 <veemirc>	well it sucks that we will hardly get the information about stockholders to the companies
Oct 29 09:40:16 <Chaaang-Noi>	im starting to think some people might be working with the SEC at this point. theymos might ahve been right about nefario
Oct 29 09:40:17 <veemirc>	I for example have some ASICMINER shares and I would really like them to release the information that I have it to the company...
Oct 29 09:40:36 <Chaaang-Noi>	im pretty sure the SEC has already called in some glbse customers to be on the record
Oct 29 09:40:41 <veemirc>	Everyone says that Nefario seemed like a cool guy in the London conference
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Oct 29 09:40:56 <veemirc>	I just think that he's scared because of the investigation
Oct 29 09:41:00 <Chaaang-Noi>	i think nefario shit himself when he realized that the feds wanted to rape him...
Oct 29 09:41:26 <veemirc>	exactly
Oct 29 09:41:41 <veemirc>	and to tell the truth, who wouldn't :)
Oct 29 09:41:44 <Chaaang-Noi>	i think he is in "do what ever it takes to not go to jail" mode
Oct 29 09:41:56 <Chaaang-Noi>	and that might be work with the sec/fsa/fbi
Oct 29 09:42:10 <Chaaang-Noi>	who the fuck knows what they are investigating.. nefario never did aml stuff like he should asve
Oct 29 09:42:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	have
Oct 29 09:42:31 <Chaaang-Noi>	i wonder if the dea found out silkroad or what not was using it to wash coins.
Oct 29 09:42:49 <Diablo-D3>	silkroad is a cia op
Oct 29 09:42:57 <veemirc>	you think?
Oct 29 09:43:00 <Chaaang-Noi>	maybe, but i doubt it
Oct 29 09:43:11 <Chaaang-Noi>	im sure some of the sellers are govt but i doubt the whole thing is
Oct 29 09:43:23 <Diablo-D3>	yup, whole thing is
Oct 29 09:43:27 <Chaaang-Noi>	i doubt it
Oct 29 09:44:39 <Chaaang-Noi>	anyway im not 100% sure on my intel about the sec investigation but i think its right
Oct 29 09:45:01 <Chaaang-Noi>	also i do know the sec plans to pass on what they collect to differnt agancies if they find other "crimes"
Oct 29 09:45:58 <Chaaang-Noi>	everyone who is an american and gave id to nefario and listed an asset, id get a lawyer...
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Oct 29 09:52:10 <veemirc>	im glad im not :)
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Oct 29 10:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3821 @ 0.00045955 = 1.7559 BTC [-]
Oct 29 10:03:01 <iz>	maybe you mean FBI op?
Oct 29 10:03:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i had internet fail, who posted what?
Oct 29 10:05:52 <veemirc>	no one posted anything
Oct 29 10:09:53 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
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Oct 29 11:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	<veemirc> I just think that he's scared because of the investigation <<< what investigation ?
Oct 29 11:02:49 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (10 - 9) / 9
Oct 29 11:02:49 <gribble>	0.111111111111
Oct 29 11:02:54 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 29 11:02:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.49001, Best ask: 10.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 10.50000, 24 hour volume: 42463.24041426, 24 hour low: 10.32090, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.66583
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Oct 29 11:06:45 <veemirc>	mircea_popescu: well it has been written time and again that there is some police investigation on GLBSE
Oct 29 11:07:05 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 29 11:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Oct 29 11:07:27 <veemirc>	no one really knows what's going on since Nefario supposedly can't give any information about it
Oct 29 11:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	it's been written time and time again that there is an african ex general guy with millions or w/e
Oct 29 11:07:56 <veemirc>	so I was saying that he does all this stupid crap because he's scared of the police
Oct 29 11:08:00 <Chaang-Noi>	the SEC investigation is real
Oct 29 11:08:10 <Chaang-Noi>	and GLBSE was the org target
Oct 29 11:08:18 <mircea_popescu>	you know this how ?
Oct 29 11:08:24 <Chaang-Noi>	SEC
Oct 29 11:08:28 <Chaang-Noi>	they opened the case in april
Oct 29 11:08:43 <Chaang-Noi>	passed it up to the current guy a month or so ago once pirate failed and shit got big
Oct 29 11:08:52 <mircea_popescu>	again, you know this how ?
Oct 29 11:09:16 <Chaang-Noi>	a bird told me
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Oct 29 11:09:51 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Oct 29 11:09:56 <veemirc>	watch out we have Varis here :D
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Oct 29 11:13:18 <Chaang-Noi>	however it should be pretty damn clear to everyone that there is a real SEC investigation
Oct 29 11:13:37 <Chaang-Noi>	some of the details are clouded i will agree but to think there is not a real investigation is silly.
Oct 29 11:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00045594 = 6.4288 BTC [-]
Oct 29 11:13:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00045574 = 5.7879 BTC [-]
Oct 29 11:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00045563 = 8.4747 BTC [-]
Oct 29 11:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	last i heard the guy was trying to discern if there's enough material to START an investigation.
Oct 29 11:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	not clear how that went in the end.
Oct 29 11:15:30 <B0g4r7>	The only convincing evidence I've seen is that email from the Mustakis guy saying that he was looking into BS&T.
Oct 29 11:15:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1236 @ 0.00045626 = 0.5639 BTC [+]
Oct 29 11:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00046203 = 7.3925 BTC [+]
Oct 29 11:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00046406 = 4.0837 BTC [+]
Oct 29 11:15:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00046447 = 2.4617 BTC [+]
Oct 29 11:15:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00046813 = 9.5499 BTC [+]
Oct 29 11:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00046975 = 6.6705 BTC [+]
Oct 29 11:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4064 @ 0.00047019 = 1.9109 BTC [+]
Oct 29 11:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	yea, last month.
Oct 29 11:16:12 <B0g4r7>	Or earlier.
Oct 29 11:17:36 <Chaang-Noi>	we have differnt ideas about what an investigation is
Oct 29 11:17:47 <Chaang-Noi>	the first interview they took was in april, or the first one i could track down
Oct 29 11:17:56 <Chaang-Noi>	they have not charged anyone yet
Oct 29 11:18:03 <Chaang-Noi>	they are still collecting data/evidance
Oct 29 11:18:08 <veemirc>	well I'm just hoping that there will be another assets website soon, because bitcoin world needs a good assets exchange system
Oct 29 11:18:17 <Chaang-Noi>	they might also pass it on to a differnt govt agancy if its not the SEc department
Oct 29 11:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	listen, these are terms of art. charging belongs in penal proceedings. an investigation is a civil matter.
Oct 29 11:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	nevertheless, it's formalised. some guy asking questions is not equal to an investigation.
Oct 29 11:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	veemirc you know glbse was pretty much irrelevant to that topic since about spring.
Oct 29 11:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	btc assets trade on mpex.
Oct 29 11:19:22 <veemirc>	well I heard that you have to pay high fees on MPEX
Oct 29 11:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	yes, you do.
Oct 29 11:19:27 <Chaang-Noi>	well they are collecting data and have been for some time. they ahve also used spphenas to collect testimony...
Oct 29 11:19:35 <veemirc>	so it's not a website that I would like to join...
Oct 29 11:19:36 <Chaang-Noi>	they are being agressive as well
Oct 29 11:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	then again, there's coinbr.com, individual brokers etc.
Oct 29 11:19:49 <B0g4r7>	They trade among ppl who can deal with mpex.
Oct 29 11:19:55 <mircea_popescu>	well i thought we were discussing btc and assets, not you.
Oct 29 11:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi who got supoena'd ?
Oct 29 11:20:16 <veemirc>	that's not good enough, I want to be able to trade myself, like in GLBSE
Oct 29 11:20:26 <Chaang-Noi>	some one i know has claimed they were, and they know of one other
Oct 29 11:20:39 <Chaang-Noi>	im going to guess its related to the peter lambert thing
Oct 29 11:20:43 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi kinda weak chain but anyway.
Oct 29 11:20:50 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Oct 29 11:20:53 <Chaang-Noi>	i know
Oct 29 11:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	veemirc what do you mean "trade yourself"
Oct 29 11:21:07 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been asking a lot of people and collecting a lot of evidance about this. something is going on
Oct 29 11:21:45 <Chaang-Noi>	im not saying they will ever make a case but something is going on...
Oct 29 11:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	well to that degree it's a healthy thing,
Oct 29 11:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see why anyone (other than patent scammers, thieves and general scum) need to be much worried.
Oct 29 11:23:06 <Chaang-Noi>	the SEC is wondering if the PPTs were working with pirate and knew about the scam
Oct 29 11:23:47 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda doubt any of them are but all the PPTs are targets, and so are the glbse owners like theymos who asked people on the forum to make PPTs on GLBSE a company he owened part of
Oct 29 11:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	validly so.
Oct 29 11:24:01 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos said in public he thought it was a scam but wanted to profit anyway
Oct 29 11:24:13 <veemirc>	mircea_popescu: i mean I want to login into a website and buy and sell my shares, not do it through a broker
Oct 29 11:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	veemirc so then give coinbr a look.
Oct 29 11:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	last i heard that's what it was.
Oct 29 11:24:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know how hard the SEC will look into this but they are
Oct 29 11:25:09 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi people were warned back in spring the ppts are bs.
Oct 29 11:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	but meh, forum people always know better than everyone.
Oct 29 11:25:54 <Chaang-Noi>	well i did not know it was a scam (and still have no proof it was) but thought might as well let people do what they want, esp since theymos asked for it
Oct 29 11:26:11 <Chaang-Noi>	had no idea the sec might have thought it was a crime
Oct 29 11:26:36 <Chaang-Noi>	also about Ver, thats crazy he got 8 months in fed jail for that... 100,000 sold and shipped in the usa and he was the only one jailed
Oct 29 11:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119966.msg1300692#msg1300692
Oct 29 11:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty good
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Oct 29 11:31:20 <veemirc>	I dont want a broker, but thanks anyway
Oct 29 11:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	so strange.
Oct 29 11:34:49 <PsychoticBoy>	what a tragedy
Oct 29 11:35:18 <mircea_popescu>	what happened ?
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Oct 29 11:41:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24063 @ 0.00045895 = 11.0437 BTC [-]
Oct 29 12:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00046022 = 8.9283 BTC [+]
Oct 29 12:07:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00046236 = 10.2644 BTC [+]
Oct 29 12:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	pubic hair stuck in mouse optic unit.
Oct 29 12:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	"how did that get there"
Oct 29 12:07:52 <mod6>	haha
Oct 29 12:08:09 <mod6>	double-clicking the mouse
Oct 29 12:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	a lol lol
Oct 29 12:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	musta picked it off the desk
Oct 29 12:08:23 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu sup mah nigga
Oct 29 12:09:23 <thestringpuller>	do options get cheaper as the expiration date approaches?
Oct 29 12:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	not much
Oct 29 12:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Oct 29 12:10:34 <thestringpuller>	i see. that is what futures sre for
Oct 29 12:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	that = ?
Oct 29 12:12:13 <thestringpuller>	oh sorry mumbling to self. i will elaborate when not driving
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Oct 29 12:16:35 <thestringpuller>	so bro
Oct 29 12:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	“Bout to do some looting when this hurricane finally hits….gonna get a new laptop and tv…this hurricane might be the best thing to happen.”
Oct 29 12:17:05 <mircea_popescu>	capitalism meets nigger.
Oct 29 12:17:15 <thestringpuller>	dats racist
Oct 29 12:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	why yes, yes it is.
Oct 29 12:17:21 <thestringpuller>	term is negro
Oct 29 12:17:22 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 29 12:17:42 <thestringpuller>	you cray
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Oct 29 12:18:08 <thestringpuller>	you reading tweets mircea_popescumk
Oct 29 12:18:13 <thestringpuller>	you reading tweets mircea_popescu*
Oct 29 12:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	nah, someone sent me the quote.
Oct 29 12:19:19 <thestringpuller>	what kind of futures will you have?
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Oct 29 12:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	how should i know ?
Oct 29 12:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	eventuyally all of them
Oct 29 12:23:29 <thestringpuller>	i wqnt future for november 26
Oct 29 12:23:35 <thestringpuller>	want
Oct 29 12:23:43 <thestringpuller>	i kid i kid
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Oct 29 12:32:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00046384 = 0.5566 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 12:57:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00046287 = 3.703 BTC [-]
Oct 29 12:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00046104 = 8.9903 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 13:24:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18545 @ 0.00046104 = 8.55 BTC [-]
Oct 29 13:24:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5749 @ 0.00045983 = 2.6436 BTC [-]
Oct 29 13:26:36 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 29 13:26:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.53001, Best ask: 10.57104, Bid-ask spread: 0.04103, Last trade: 10.53000, 24 hour volume: 43190.10348393, 24 hour low: 10.32090, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.66457
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Oct 29 13:27:18 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 29 13:27:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.53001, Best ask: 10.57104, Bid-ask spread: 0.04103, Last trade: 10.53000, 24 hour volume: 43189.69960579, 24 hour low: 10.32090, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.66457
Oct 29 13:27:32 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 29 13:27:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.53001, Best ask: 10.57104, Bid-ask spread: 0.04103, Last trade: 10.53000, 24 hour volume: 43189.69960579, 24 hour low: 10.32090, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.66457
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Oct 29 13:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Oct 29 13:46:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00339944 / 0.00339944 / 0.00339944 (10 shares, 0.03 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00293552 / 0.0034 (1795889 shares, 5,271.88 BTC)
Oct 29 13:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00045983 = 6.2997 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 14:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21231 @ 0.00046311 = 9.8323 BTC [+]
Oct 29 14:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	hey, i wanna troll reddit a little, anyone with me ?
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Oct 29 14:30:56 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: in what way?
Oct 29 14:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	in the way of go here http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12ad2u/as_julia_a_moore_would_have_said_the_storm_that/ and post something like
Oct 29 14:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	On one bright and pleasant morning His uncle thought it would be nice To take his dear little nephew Down to play upon a raft Where he was to work upon it, An this little child would company be - The raft the water[i] rushed around it, Yet he the danger did not see[k]. This little child knew no danger – Its little soul was free from sin – He was looking in the water, When, alas, this child fell in.
Oct 29 14:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e other julia moore quote you find adequate.
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Oct 29 14:35:03 <smickles>	how'd i do?
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Oct 29 14:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 29 14:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if we manage to get them in wtf mode
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Oct 29 14:42:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14914 @ 0.00045983 = 6.8579 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 14:45:07 <smickles>	we'll see, i think /r/funny has a high turnover rate
Oct 29 14:45:36 <smickles>	so it could be hit-or-miss as to whether or not it even gets noticed really
Oct 29 14:46:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00046158 = 0.2308 BTC [+]
Oct 29 14:47:12 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Oct 29 14:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	also too much of an insider joke i suspect
Oct 29 14:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	since memes nobody really understands cultural references anymore. at least not of the useless young crowd.
Oct 29 14:51:52 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: how old are you?
Oct 29 14:52:07 <mircea_popescu>	thirty something.
Oct 29 14:52:15 <copumpkin>	ah, 31
Oct 29 14:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	nah, im from the 70s
Oct 29 14:52:53 <copumpkin>	oh, so 33
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Oct 29 15:04:44 <smickles>	I'm 12
Oct 29 15:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	youngest dad in all midwest ?
Oct 29 15:05:15 <smickles>	no, it's common out here
Oct 29 15:05:33 <mod6>	tucson does have some young parents.
Oct 29 15:05:51 <smickles>	oh yeah, i'm not in th midwest anymore
Oct 29 15:06:02 <mod6>	i was sitting in the ER @ UMC this one day, and these kids had a baby who was like, coudln't have been more than 5 months old, maybe 8?
Oct 29 15:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134298763072.jpg somewhat related
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Oct 29 15:06:49 <mod6>	hardly had 3 teeth in its mouth -- had the flu, fever, all the junk -- these "parents" were feeding the kid french fries from McD's
Oct 29 15:07:01 <smickles>	woah, that's an awesome pic mircea_popescu
Oct 29 15:07:08 <mod6>	all the while the kid screamed.
Oct 29 15:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	i think i might have finally gotten to the bottom of the child  porn aggitations
Oct 29 15:07:21 <smickles>	mod6: :o that's aweful
Oct 29 15:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 that's a sad story
Oct 29 15:07:29 <smickles>	er, awful
Oct 29 15:08:09 <mod6>	hah, just some wild stuff i'd seen while there. it was like, "o the kid is sick?! flu, fever, shits? GET HIM A HAPPY MEAL!"
Oct 29 15:09:03 <smickles>	i do like the feel of mcd's when i'm hungover
Oct 29 15:09:15 <smickles>	it's gotta be the same for a kid with the flu and the shits
Oct 29 15:09:30 <mod6>	haha
Oct 29 15:09:38 <mod6>	i love tucson though
Oct 29 15:09:44 <mod6>	i hate to talk any shit
Oct 29 15:09:58 <mod6>	but anyway, some of the "parents" there are just children themselvs.
Oct 29 15:10:21 <smickles>	well, i don't mind shittalking parents who are likely shortening their kids life like that
Oct 29 15:11:01 <mod6>	i just see stuff like that and think "ugh, that kid will be a diabetes amputee in like 18 years."
Oct 29 15:11:28 *	mod6 drinks more mtdew
Oct 29 15:11:38 <smickles>	lol
Oct 29 15:11:46 <mod6>	;D
Oct 29 15:11:53 *	smickles eats more carbs
Oct 29 15:12:11 <mod6>	haha. oh well. its a brave new world out there.
Oct 29 15:12:21 <mod6>	GIVE ME MY CHICKEN NUGGETS!
Oct 29 15:12:31 <smickles>	we just gotta last until the singularity
Oct 29 15:14:15 <mod6>	gotta find youself a hide out spot on Mt. Lemmon or in the Chiricahua's like Geronimo
Oct 29 15:14:53 <mod6>	have you gone to Nogales yet?
Oct 29 15:15:06 <smickles>	nope, we actually just finished unpacking
Oct 29 15:15:21 <mod6>	ahh, werd. :)
Oct 29 15:15:22 <smickles>	this place is smaller than the place we were at before
Oct 29 15:15:30 <smickles>	so it was challenging
Oct 29 15:15:49 <smickles>	I did find a decent dive bar
Oct 29 15:15:55 <smickles>	"the bay horse"
Oct 29 15:16:25 <mod6>	i know it :D
Oct 29 15:16:25 <smickles>	cash only, 2 usd gets you a mini-pitcher of pbr
Oct 29 15:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	smickles dood you've unpacked for two weeks
Oct 29 15:17:04 <smickles>	pretty much
Oct 29 15:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	what was it, 7200 FN-FAGs ?
Oct 29 15:17:31 <mod6>	I used to hang @ the tap-room quite a bit
Oct 29 15:17:35 <smickles>	we went from a 1600 ft² place to a 100 ft² place
Oct 29 15:17:40 <mod6>	The Hotel Congress
Oct 29 15:17:44 <mircea_popescu>	100 sq ft ?!
Oct 29 15:17:44 <smickles>	1000*
Oct 29 15:17:48 <smickles>	lol
Oct 29 15:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	MY MATRESS IS 100 SQ FT
Oct 29 15:18:01 <mod6>	HAH
Oct 29 15:18:16 <mod6>	sounds like my place on Grant & Alvernon
Oct 29 15:19:01 <smickles>	i'm near glenn and campbel
Oct 29 15:19:07 <smickles>	er
Oct 29 15:19:09 <smickles>	grant
Oct 29 15:19:12 <smickles>	not glenn
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Oct 29 15:19:23 <smickles>	glenn is the next street up, i think
Oct 29 15:19:46 <mod6>	ahh sure.
Oct 29 15:20:05 <smickles>	so the sun goes down and a million university girls start running around
Oct 29 15:20:06 <mod6>	i don't live there anymore, but I'm STILL the mayor.
Oct 29 15:20:17 <thestringpuller>	mr. smickles do you never sleep?
Oct 29 15:20:23 <thestringpuller>	i wss so tired this morning
Oct 29 15:20:27 <mod6>	I <3 UofA girls
Oct 29 15:20:33 <smickles>	i sleep about 6 hours a day, maybe
Oct 29 15:20:38 <thestringpuller>	monopoly tonight?
Oct 29 15:20:43 <thestringpuller>	:)
Oct 29 15:20:48 <smickles>	sure :)
Oct 29 15:20:51 <thestringpuller>	use betta client
Oct 29 15:20:57 <thestringpuller>	:P mr. lag
Oct 29 15:20:57 <smickles>	hopefully this other client is better
Oct 29 15:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	2 up votes 2 down votes
Oct 29 15:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	seems like no.
Oct 29 15:21:14 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the down are probably fake
Oct 29 15:21:17 <mod6>	If you wanna try a good pizza, try Zachery's Pizza @ the UofA -- total hole in the wall, but good pizza & beer.
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Oct 29 15:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	fake ?
Oct 29 15:21:31 <smickles>	reddeit has a system to hide votes so people don't game it somehow
Oct 29 15:21:47 <mod6>	https://maps.google.com/maps?q=zacherys+pizza+tucson&hl=en&ll=32.237343,-110.955477&spn=0.040511,0.084543&sll=32.256017,-110.918784&sspn=0.010126,0.021136&t=h&gl=us&hq=zacherys+pizza&hnear=Tucson,+Pima,+Arizona&z=14&iwloc=A
Oct 29 15:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?!
Oct 29 15:21:55 <mod6>	bah, long url sorry.
Oct 29 15:23:24 <smickles>	mod6: bookmarked :)
Oct 29 15:24:06 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it pops in fake votes that don't count so that people don't just vote on what is popular, or something like that
Oct 29 15:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	o ?!
Oct 29 15:24:37 <smickles>	if you really want to know, it's open source, go look at the code
Oct 29 15:24:48 <mod6>	lol shit, it says "This place has closed or moved."
Oct 29 15:24:50 <smickles>	https://github.com/reddit/reddit
Oct 29 15:25:06 <smickles>	mod6: if it's still in business, i'll find it
Oct 29 15:25:15 <thestringpuller>	what are we redditting?
Oct 29 15:25:24 <mod6>	smickles: im gonna call 'em, and find out.
Oct 29 15:25:43 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: https://github.com/reddit/reddit/blob/master/r2/r2/controllers/promotecontroller.py might be it
Oct 29 15:26:16 <mod6>	WOW phone number is disconned lol
Oct 29 15:26:26 <mod6>	well, so much for that
Oct 29 15:26:43 <smickles>	too bad
Oct 29 15:26:46 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller go to http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12ad2u/as_julia_a_moore_would_have_said_the_storm_that/
Oct 29 15:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	paste some julia moore quote you find appropiate
Oct 29 15:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 so since you left all the girls are gone and the places are all closed up ?
Oct 29 15:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	you sound a lot like me...
Oct 29 15:27:41 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: likes em young
Oct 29 15:28:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00046158 = 9.5547 BTC [+]
Oct 29 15:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	i like 'em wet.
Oct 29 15:28:28 <mod6>	haha
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Oct 29 15:28:52 <mod6>	i left in the summer of 09 -- Had enough working nights at walmart.
Oct 29 15:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	in the summer of 69...
Oct 29 15:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;google summer of 69
Oct 29 15:29:13 <mod6>	haha
Oct 29 15:29:14 <gribble>	Bryan Adams - Summer of 69 - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f06QZCVUHg>; Summer of '69 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_'69>; Bryan Adams - Summer Of '69 Lyrics: <http://www.lyrics007.com/Bryan%20Adams%20Lyrics/Summer%20Of%20'69%20Lyrics.html>
Oct 29 15:29:21 <mod6>	fucking bryan adams
Oct 29 15:29:23 <mod6>	lol
Oct 29 15:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	great song too
Oct 29 15:29:46 <mod6>	but yeah, I worked at that IBM down there in Rita Ranch
Oct 29 15:29:50 <mod6>	then the crash came...
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Oct 29 15:30:14 <mod6>	then everyone lost their jobs... so mod6 took a night cashier job on the east side
Oct 29 15:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	Jimmy quit, Jody got married
Oct 29 15:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	Shoulda known, we'd never get far
Oct 29 15:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	Oh when I look back now
Oct 29 15:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	That summer seemed to last forever
Oct 29 15:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	And if I had the choice
Oct 29 15:30:47 <mircea_popescu>	Yeah, I'd always want to be there
Oct 29 15:30:49 <mircea_popescu>	Those were the best days of my life
Oct 29 15:32:28 <mod6>	anyway, after 9 months of that bullshit, i decided to leave tucson for a better job :(
Oct 29 15:32:28 <thestringpuller>	;;google dirt off your shoulder
Oct 29 15:32:29 <gribble>	JAY-Z - Dirt Off Your Shoulder - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz_-VaTHpc8>; JAY Z Dirt Off Your Shoulder - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nlOeqEIHXY>; Dirt off Your Shoulder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirt_off_Your_Shoulder>
Oct 29 15:33:05 <mod6>	it was a horrible time to be looking for a job then.
Oct 29 15:33:41 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 it still is innit ?
Oct 29 15:34:24 <mod6>	well... it depends on the location really.
Oct 29 15:34:52 <mod6>	there are TONS of jobs for exp. programmers out there now
Oct 29 15:35:22 <mod6>	but at the time of the crash, if anyone had a job, and made it past the budget cuts, they weren't moving out of them so it was a really hard thing to find new positions at the time.
Oct 29 15:35:37 <mod6>	but i moved back to minneapolis and found a good software gig in 2 months.
Oct 29 15:35:51 <thestringpuller>	sell drugs mang
Oct 29 15:35:58 <thestringpuller>	hustle yo shit
Oct 29 15:36:05 <mod6>	tucson doesn't have much in IT except IBM or Raytheon (which requires Top Secret Clearence)
Oct 29 15:36:12 <mod6>	there is TI too, but its a small outfit there.
Oct 29 15:36:21 <mod6>	thestringpuller: haha, werd.
Oct 29 15:36:26 <thestringpuller>	mod6 can you rap?
Oct 29 15:36:30 <mod6>	f no
Oct 29 15:36:38 <mod6>	im 32
Oct 29 15:36:40 <mod6>	and white
Oct 29 15:36:45 <mod6>	i have no business trying to rap.
Oct 29 15:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	32 yo white programmers are the best rappers i hear
Oct 29 15:37:00 <thestringpuller>	eminem is 40
Oct 29 15:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	those who don't get sidetracked into bball careers
Oct 29 15:37:10 <mod6>	but i like rap very much, dre/eazy-e/snoop/jeezy
Oct 29 15:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	i only like female rappers.
Oct 29 15:37:31 <mod6>	but im mostly into punk music i think.
Oct 29 15:37:51 <thestringpuller>	i will slap you mp if you like nikki minaj
Oct 29 15:38:13 <mod6>	wat about MIA?!
Oct 29 15:38:20 <mircea_popescu>	i mostly like the ones that also strip.
Oct 29 15:38:24 <thestringpuller>	shes kinda a rapper
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Oct 29 15:39:22 <mircea_popescu>	hey, a strapper. that's a kickass idea.
Oct 29 15:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	why don't they have this already ?
Oct 29 15:39:56 <thestringpuller>	cause rap objectifies women enough?
Oct 29 15:40:12 <mod6>	M. O. B.
Oct 29 15:40:13 <mod6>	^^^^^^^^
Oct 29 15:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	busty girl beatboxes while taking off her clothes and then proceeds to peg haples whiteboys in the audience with her monstruous pink strap-on
Oct 29 15:40:41 <thestringpuller>	sounds like a korean film
Oct 29 15:40:47 <thestringpuller>	:P
Oct 29 15:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	I SAID BUSTY
Oct 29 15:40:51 <mod6>	haha
Oct 29 15:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Oct 29 15:41:16 <thestringpuller>	ive seen busty koreans before
Oct 29 15:41:19 <thestringpuller>	they are rare
Oct 29 15:41:23 <thestringpuller>	:P
Oct 29 15:41:35 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 29 15:41:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.56616, Best ask: 10.63899, Bid-ask spread: 0.07283, Last trade: 10.64900, 24 hour volume: 45833.02822306, 24 hour low: 10.32090, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.66578
Oct 29 15:42:14 <mircea_popescu>	he said rare
Oct 29 15:42:34 <thestringpuller>	berry punny
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Oct 29 15:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29377 @ 0.00046311 = 13.6048 BTC [+]
Oct 29 15:53:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00046384 = 1.0668 BTC [+]
Oct 29 15:53:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11023 @ 0.00046641 = 5.1412 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 16:18:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5939 @ 0.00046641 = 2.77 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 16:31:02 <jurov>	lol, ECB fears that bitcoin incidents can have negative impact to its reputation
Oct 29 16:31:29 <jurov>	http://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/other/virtualcurrencyschemes201210en.pdf
Oct 29 16:32:22 *	mircea_popescu skips to conclusion
Oct 29 16:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	"Although in practical terms virtual currency schemes are only an evolution, from a conceptual
Oct 29 16:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	point of view they do present substantial changes when compared to real currencies and payment
Oct 29 16:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	systems.
Oct 29 16:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	"
Oct 29 16:32:47 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck wrote that ;/
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Oct 29 16:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	"do indeed fall within central banks’ responsibility as a result of characteristics shared with
Oct 29 16:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	 payment systems, which give rise to the need for at least an examination of developments and the provision of an initial assessment."
Oct 29 16:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	like hell.
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Oct 29 16:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	the ecb needs a license from me to pursue any activity in the btc space.
Oct 29 16:34:36 <mircea_popescu>	i hope that's adequately clear to them.
Oct 29 16:37:53 <jurov>	did you already issue some licenses? to whom?
Oct 29 16:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 29 16:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	no, it would be my first time.
Oct 29 16:39:19 <jurov>	you should have told nefario... if he wants to be regulated, you can do it
Oct 29 16:43:03 <jurov>	tell mpoe-pr to write to btctalk: "Mircea Popescu now offers proper regulationary oversight to btc activities"
Oct 29 16:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00046641 = 12.4998 BTC [+]
Oct 29 16:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	regulationary lol
Oct 29 16:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	in romanian "to regulate" would kinda mean to fuck.
Oct 29 16:45:35 <jurov>	lol
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Oct 29 16:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	in truth tho, central banks are pretty much fucked.
Oct 29 16:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	as bitcoin develops and the uselessness of their scrip will become more and more apparent
Oct 29 17:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	the uninformed public will for sure frame it as "central banks aren't doing enough!!11"
Oct 29 17:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	as if there actually is something to do.
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Oct 29 17:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00046602 = 12.8156 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 17:29:30 <knotwork>	micrea there is something to do: mine coins! central banks aren't mining enough!
Oct 29 17:29:49 <knotwork>	s/micrea/mircea/
Oct 29 17:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00046602 = 10.5321 BTC [-]
Oct 29 17:37:31 <mircea_popescu>	as long as the block keep coming 6 an hour i think there's enough mining
Oct 29 17:37:43 <thestringpuller>	nope not enough
Oct 29 17:37:57 <thestringpuller>	never enough!
Oct 29 17:38:03 <thestringpuller>	print more coins
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Oct 29 17:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	"I'm a girl looking for a loan"
Oct 29 17:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	her name is underminer.
Oct 29 17:41:09 <Lyspooner>	what are her terms
Oct 29 17:41:33 <drekk>	tits or nobody cares
Oct 29 17:41:39 <Lyspooner>	srsly
Oct 29 17:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol hi Lyspooner
Oct 29 17:42:56 <Lyspooner>	hi, i just finished the ecb report on virtual currencies
Oct 29 17:43:27 <Lyspooner>	there are some continuity issues with Linden Dollars thrown in
Oct 29 17:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	actually... the only PERSON i ever lended money to
Oct 29 17:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	got a gender surgery thingee BECAME a chick.
Oct 29 17:44:29 <Lyspooner>	oh i see.  does gender surgery allow one to pay dividends in bitcoins?
Oct 29 17:44:42 <drekk>	mircea_popescu, to pay you back in tits. q.e.d.
Oct 29 17:44:57 <mircea_popescu>	nah, i got stiffed.
Oct 29 17:45:04 <drekk>	(i'll continue stfu now)
Oct 29 17:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121195.msg1305832#msg1305832 hahaha totally pegged him
Oct 29 17:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/bXVWg.png teh suck ;/
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Oct 29 17:50:27 <Lyspooner>	what is that chart
Oct 29 17:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	satoshidice profits.
Oct 29 17:53:08 <kuzetsa>	http://goo.gl/zJBdq  --- 16,000-square-mile (41,000 km2) urban area that is 26 times larger geographically than Greater London, or about the same size as the Netherlands, with a population of over 56 million (not including Hong Kong or Macau)...
Oct 29 17:53:09 <kuzetsa>	...compared to the combined statistical area for NYC which is only 22 million people. I spend most of my life living in or on the edge of louisville's combined statistical area, which is only aprox 1.45 million people (seems that buffalo is only 1.2 million)
Oct 29 17:53:16 <kuzetsa>	full-blown natural disaster in guangzhou china would make this east coast storm look rather trivial.
Oct 29 17:53:23 <kuzetsa>	oh, sorry. wrong window.
Oct 29 17:53:34 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Oct 29 17:53:47 <thestringpuller>	touch da sky!
Oct 29 17:53:48 *	kuzetsa waves
Oct 29 17:54:34 <mircea_popescu>	they don't have a bunch of jewish princesses lined up in guangzhou
Oct 29 17:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	hence all the bitching and moaning about east coast.
Oct 29 17:54:53 <kuzetsa>	yeah uh... I live a couple hours south of buffalo with various "upstate rednecks" as neigbours. whee!
Oct 29 17:56:48 <kuzetsa>	mircea_popescu: I don't understand. israel isn't structured in such a way as to have a royal family / nobles / prince and princess I didn't think.
Oct 29 17:57:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;google jewish princess
Oct 29 17:57:10 <kuzetsa>	"jewish princess" ?
Oct 29 17:57:10 <gribble>	Jewish-American princess stereotype - Wikipedia, the free ...: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_princess_stereotype>; Jewish Princess Lyrics - Frank Zappa: <http://www.lyricsfreak.com/f/frank+zappa/jewish+princess_20056819.html>; Frank Zappa - Jewish Princess - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZraWnOPfcQ>
Oct 29 17:57:43 <Lyspooner>	kuzesta i believe he said that there are no jewish princesses lined up in guangzhou.  such a statement should appear true to you
Oct 29 17:59:44 <kuzetsa>	huh
Oct 29 18:00:02 <kuzetsa>	ethnic slurs confuse me for the most part
Oct 29 18:00:11 <kuzetsa>	I don't wish to do any further reading on the matter.
Oct 29 18:00:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5601 @ 0.00046353 = 2.5962 BTC [-]
Oct 29 18:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	next week kosher deli's gonna be an ethnic slur
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Oct 29 18:04:37 <dub>	surfs up in NYC nao
Oct 29 18:04:42 <dub>	http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44065
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Oct 29 18:06:04 <mircea_popescu>	is it a full moon too btw ?
Oct 29 18:06:12 <dub>	yep
Oct 29 18:06:27 <pigeons>	kuzetsa looks like a starving armenian
Oct 29 18:06:37 <dub>	expecting 11ft above normal surge
Oct 29 18:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	46/60 that's pretty windy
Oct 29 18:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons my money's on dub pollack
Oct 29 18:07:50 <dub>	wat
Oct 29 18:08:40 <pigeons>	practicing semislurs
Oct 29 18:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	semi ramides.
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Oct 29 18:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	dub may be no pole, but pole be dub.
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Oct 29 18:11:35 <dub>	I like to think of myself being as genetically removed from Luke-Jr as possible
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Oct 29 18:15:26 <kuzetsa>	pigeons: "starving armenian" ???
Oct 29 18:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	dub congratulations, you're a short girl with buckteeth and freckles.
Oct 29 18:17:52 <kuzetsa>	:/
Oct 29 18:18:26 <kuzetsa>	mircea_popescu: shut up plskthx. you're sucking up my chatlogs.
Oct 29 18:19:27 <mircea_popescu>	kuzetsa are you stupid naturally or does it take some particular effort ?
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Oct 29 18:20:55 <kuzetsa>	give for my the books :P
Oct 29 18:21:41 <mod6>	haha dub
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Oct 29 18:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21285 @ 0.00046329 = 9.8611 BTC [-]
Oct 29 18:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10115 @ 0.00046299 = 4.6831 BTC [-]
Oct 29 18:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120909.0 this thing lol
Oct 29 18:31:39 <mod6>	round the prickly pear we go again
Oct 29 18:33:43 <kakobreklaa>	site source omfg?
Oct 29 18:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Oct 29 18:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00046311 = 8.3823 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 19:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00046299 = 3.8891 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 19:37:07 <thestringpuller>	touch da sky!
Oct 29 19:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00046311 = 8.0118 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2399 @ 0.00046353 = 1.112 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4538 @ 0.00046641 = 2.1166 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23336 @ 0.00047019 = 10.9724 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00047139 = 3.2055 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.00047292 = 13.4782 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24265 @ 0.00047519 = 11.5305 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1409 @ 0.00047612 = 0.6709 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24923 @ 0.00047661 = 11.8786 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12920 @ 0.00047714 = 6.1646 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:27 <thestringpuller>	fuck
Oct 29 19:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00047769 = 2.9139 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6867 @ 0.00047907 = 3.2898 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00047955 = 20.7166 BTC [+]
Oct 29 19:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17443 @ 0.00047992 = 8.3712 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 20:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00047264 = 8.5075 BTC [-]
Oct 29 20:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00047992 = 6.143 BTC [+]
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Oct 29 20:13:18 <thestringpuller>	smickles: when we playing monopoly yo?
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Oct 29 20:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00046842 = 6.7452 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 20:53:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93 @ 0.00046842 = 0.0436 BTC [-]
Oct 29 20:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47300 @ 0.00046515 = 22.0016 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 21:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00046343 = 22.7081 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 21:44:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00046343 = 0.4171 BTC [-]
Oct 29 21:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6664 @ 0.00046299 = 3.0854 BTC [-]
Oct 29 21:44:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20819 @ 0.0004621 = 9.6205 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 22:09:33 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=B.MPCD.A
Oct 29 22:10:14 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yo!
Oct 29 22:11:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00046115 = 1.0606 BTC [-]
Oct 29 22:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14237 @ 0.00045983 = 6.5466 BTC [-]
Oct 29 22:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2663 @ 0.00045964 = 1.224 BTC [-]
Oct 29 22:11:27 <smickles>	;;later tell mircea_popescu mpex.us looks amazing in 'source code pro' font
Oct 29 22:11:28 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Oct 29 22:17:29 <Chaaang-Noi>	why .us?
Oct 29 22:17:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	why not use a non american site?
Oct 29 22:17:55 <Chaaang-Noi>	thats asking for trouble
Oct 29 22:18:59 <smickles>	Chaaang-Noi: there are a dozen other urls that go there too
Oct 29 22:19:08 <smickles>	mpex.us is just the one i remember
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Oct 29 22:24:44 <smickles>	/¯(°_o)/¯
Oct 29 22:25:08 <smickles>	*braaaainz*
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Oct 29 22:36:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15037 @ 0.00045964 = 6.9116 BTC [-]
Oct 29 22:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24682 @ 0.0004595 = 11.3414 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 22:44:34 <dub>	jesus https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZAqYZ433TeQ#
Oct 29 22:52:05 <Azelphur>	holy shit o.O
Oct 29 22:52:45 <dub>	a few mining farms in nyc down I bet
Oct 29 22:57:51 <Garr255>	yeah where are you Diablo-D3?
Oct 29 23:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16918 @ 0.0004595 = 7.7738 BTC [-]
Oct 29 23:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00045919 = 12.49 BTC [-]
Oct 29 23:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1488 @ 0.00045895 = 0.6829 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 23:27:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4847 @ 0.00045895 = 2.2245 BTC [-]
Oct 29 23:27:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17453 @ 0.00045891 = 8.0094 BTC [-]
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Oct 29 23:49:21 <dub>	spam attack from teh bitcoin police
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Oct 29 23:53:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27060 @ 0.00046028 = 12.4552 BTC [+]
Oct 29 23:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9140 @ 0.00046142 = 4.2174 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 00:19:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7675 @ 0.00046142 = 3.5414 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 00:44:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12525 @ 0.00046337 = 5.8037 BTC [+]
Oct 30 00:44:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00046245 = 1.5261 BTC [-]
Oct 30 00:45:44 <smickles>	jebux, what is going on with the join/part spam
Oct 30 00:47:35 <dub>	shit client
Oct 30 00:47:42 <dub>	shit network
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Oct 30 00:57:47 <mod6>	its better than it used to be
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Oct 30 01:10:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11291 @ 0.00045944 = 5.1875 BTC [-]
Oct 30 01:35:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3775 @ 0.00046047 = 1.7383 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 01:38:59 <dub>	mod6: agreed, since lilo got dead
Oct 30 01:40:30 <dub>	mod6: the problem MrTiggr was having is usually due to the retarded CHANLIMIT on here though
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Oct 30 01:41:30 <dub>	combined of course with joining a retarded number of channels
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Oct 30 01:48:05 <mod6>	*nod*
Oct 30 02:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11425 @ 0.0004624 = 5.2829 BTC [+]
Oct 30 02:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10575 @ 0.00046113 = 4.8764 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 02:26:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00046113 = 4.8419 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 02:51:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00046155 = 18.3697 BTC [+]
Oct 30 02:51:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11640 @ 0.00046263 = 5.385 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 03:17:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00046209 = 11.1364 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 03:42:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14066 @ 0.00046209 = 6.4998 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 03:42:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00046209 = 2.1256 BTC [-]
Oct 30 03:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6467 @ 0.00046113 = 2.9821 BTC [-]
Oct 30 03:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6029 @ 0.00045958 = 2.7708 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 04:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00046241 = 1.526 BTC [+]
Oct 30 04:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14388 @ 0.00046263 = 6.6563 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 04:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	smickles haha does it ?
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Oct 30 04:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22012 @ 0.00046288 = 10.1889 BTC [+]
Oct 30 04:34:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22888 @ 0.00046217 = 10.5781 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 05:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23612 @ 0.00046217 = 10.9128 BTC [-]
Oct 30 05:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12871 @ 0.00045958 = 5.9153 BTC [-]
Oct 30 05:00:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10917 @ 0.00045951 = 5.0165 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 05:10:44 <mircea_popescu>	so everyone was in new york huh
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Oct 30 05:17:47 <veemirc>	everyone except for everyone here
Oct 30 05:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13224 @ 0.00045951 = 6.0766 BTC [-]
Oct 30 05:25:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27176 @ 0.00045944 = 12.4857 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 05:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7624 @ 0.00046374 = 3.5356 BTC [+]
Oct 30 05:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34076 @ 0.00046378 = 15.8038 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 06:16:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00046378 = 3.7566 BTC [+]
Oct 30 06:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00046395 = 13.269 BTC [+]
Oct 30 06:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 607 @ 0.00046409 = 0.2817 BTC [+]
Oct 30 06:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.0004642 = 0.5106 BTC [+]
Oct 30 06:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 893 @ 0.0004664 = 0.4165 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 06:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25459 @ 0.00045899 = 11.6854 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 07:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26454 @ 0.00046311 = 12.2511 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 07:32:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4909 @ 0.00045937 = 2.255 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 07:57:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7747 @ 0.00045891 = 3.5552 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 07:57:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00045881 = 7.708 BTC [-]
Oct 30 07:57:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17103 @ 0.00045872 = 7.8455 BTC [-]
Oct 30 08:20:06 <Chaang-Noi>	was there an anoused delay with bfl or something?
Oct 30 08:20:10 <Chaang-Noi>	im seeing new memes
Oct 30 08:23:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14997 @ 0.00045872 = 6.8794 BTC [-]
Oct 30 08:23:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7385 @ 0.00045845 = 3.3857 BTC [-]
Oct 30 08:24:21 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
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Oct 30 09:00:45 <EskimoBob>	NY area had similar shit going on in August?
Oct 30 09:01:05 <EskimoBob>	Why is this so over hyped?
Oct 30 09:03:27 <jurov>	so, do they have sharks inside every time?
Oct 30 09:03:29 <jurov>	http://statigr.am/p/313569468615628274_27863972
Oct 30 09:06:12 <EskimoBob>	this is kinda funny :)
Oct 30 09:06:33 <EskimoBob>	poor shark, I hope he can get back to his real home alive
Oct 30 09:14:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13491 @ 0.00045845 = 6.1849 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 09:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22024 @ 0.00045845 = 10.0969 BTC [-]
Oct 30 09:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21976 @ 0.00045842 = 10.0742 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 10:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35502 @ 0.00045937 = 16.3086 BTC [+]
Oct 30 10:05:59 <OneMiner>	EskimoBob it's the 13' storm surge. Massive low pressure zone that raises the ocean level under the storm.
Oct 30 10:08:04 <OneMiner>	Something like a slow tsunami.
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Oct 30 10:21:01 <dub>	not sure about low pressure raising ocean
Oct 30 10:21:21 <dub>	high tide + full moon + wind driven surge
Oct 30 10:22:04 <dub>	pressure is going to need to be a LOT lower for water to have lower gravity than air
Oct 30 10:23:16 <dub>	whats the death toll at anyway?
Oct 30 10:23:19 <gigavps>	dub lower pressure is part of the reason for elevated tide
Oct 30 10:24:19 <dub>	I'd say if it is a part its a functionally imperceptable part
Oct 30 10:24:36 <OneMiner>	Ya, it plays a part in it. There's more than one reason it's so high, that's true.
Oct 30 10:24:46 <dub>	as in a part so small it cannot be measured
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Oct 30 10:25:48 <Chaang-Noi>	hey gigavps has bfl delayed their asics?
Oct 30 10:26:18 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi did you buy some?
Oct 30 10:26:21 <Chaang-Noi>	last i heard was late nov, but now im hearing next year, but i highly suspect its fud
Oct 30 10:26:31 <Chaang-Noi>	no, i invested in a differnt operation
Oct 30 10:26:47 <gigavps>	December is what was in their last release to btc mag
Oct 30 10:26:57 <dub>	wiki says im wrong
Oct 30 10:26:57 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi invested in an operation?
Oct 30 10:27:02 <Chaang-Noi>	how long ago was that?
Oct 30 10:27:03 <Chaang-Noi>	asic mining
Oct 30 10:27:10 <Chaang-Noi>	with fried cat
Oct 30 10:27:31 <gigavps>	how is asic mining coming?
Oct 30 10:27:34 <Chaang-Noi>	as you know, who gets their first gets awesome pay:)
Oct 30 10:27:40 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know
Oct 30 10:27:43 <dub>	10mm of ocean for every millibar
Oct 30 10:27:49 <Chaang-Noi>	they say they should be mining end of nov if all goes well
Oct 30 10:27:58 <Chaang-Noi>	with 12 TH
Oct 30 10:28:04 <Chaang-Noi>	50 TH by Feb
Oct 30 10:28:12 <Chaang-Noi>	or 50 TH more
Oct 30 10:28:19 <OneMiner>	This story claims that the atmospheric pressure will raise the surge by several inches to a foot. http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/10/why-sandys-storm-surge-will-pack-an-unusually-strong-punch-in-nyc/
Oct 30 10:28:54 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi http://bitcoinmagazine.net/butterfly-labs-releases-more-asic-photos/
Oct 30 10:29:12 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks giga ill read it
Oct 30 10:29:28 <gigavps>	"scheduled to be released in late November or December."
Oct 30 10:29:58 <thestringpuller>	End of november is too late
Oct 30 10:30:02 <thestringpuller>	reward drop
Oct 30 10:30:05 <Chaang-Noi>	scheduled hmm, inaba was saying things could go wrong cuz they are not making the stuff
Oct 30 10:30:24 <Chaang-Noi>	asic miner might make it just before the drop
Oct 30 10:30:26 <thestringpuller>	reward will drop before december
Oct 30 10:30:27 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi they have a foundry making the chips
Oct 30 10:30:35 <dub>	OneMiner: yeah up to 500mm looking at one sensor in nyc
Oct 30 10:30:35 <gigavps>	no one will make it before the drop
Oct 30 10:30:49 <thestringpuller>	seconded
Oct 30 10:31:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i just know what i was told
Oct 30 10:31:05 <gigavps>	if you haven't done your calculations with 25 btc blocks, you shouldn't be mining
Oct 30 10:31:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10054 @ 0.00045937 = 4.6185 BTC [+]
Oct 30 10:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1727 @ 0.00046064 = 0.7955 BTC [+]
Oct 30 10:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 847 @ 0.00046311 = 0.3923 BTC [+]
Oct 30 10:31:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00046425 = 10.2135 BTC [+]
Oct 30 10:31:12 <OneMiner>	dub ya, it's the wind that pushes it up the most.
Oct 30 10:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00046599 = 0.7456 BTC [+]
Oct 30 10:31:15 <Chaang-Noi>	they are shotting for end of nev for asic miner
Oct 30 10:31:19 <Chaang-Noi>	nov*
Oct 30 10:31:22 <thestringpuller>	well shit I fucked up that trade
Oct 30 10:31:30 <thestringpuller>	didn't purchase before it went up
Oct 30 10:31:31 <thestringpuller>	oh well
Oct 30 10:31:39 <gigavps>	anyone talked to nefario?
Oct 30 10:31:51 <Chaang-Noi>	not for a long long while
Oct 30 10:31:52 <dub>	I saw a retarded kid at the mall?
Oct 30 10:31:53 <OneMiner>	Reward drop dosen't matter with ASICs. One week of double reward won't matter over the lifetime of the hardware.
Oct 30 10:32:14 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: I did
Oct 30 10:32:21 <thestringpuller>	OneMiner: you're forgetting about the overall deflation + double reward
Oct 30 10:32:28 <gigavps>	EskimoBob what did he say and when?
Oct 30 10:32:30 <thestringpuller>	if you make it before the reward drop
Oct 30 10:32:38 <thestringpuller>	you are hitting real gold
Oct 30 10:32:43 <EskimoBob>	few days ago. I called him :)
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Oct 30 10:32:59 <gigavps>	thestringpuller no asics will hit before then
Oct 30 10:33:13 *	dub goes about upgrading the internet
Oct 30 10:33:17 *	gigavps checks his crystal ball again
Oct 30 10:33:21 <Chaang-Noi>	asic miner said before the end of Nov.. so even if they do hit it, it wont be much, but it will be 1/4 of the current network
Oct 30 10:33:30 <thestringpuller>	gigavps: exactly so the point is moot, you will have to wait for the coins to deflate before it is truly worth it after reward drop
Oct 30 10:33:33 <OneMiner>	thestringpuller sill, even if they release the ASICs sooner that will just cause the difficulty to go up sooner. Being first is important, reward drop isn't so much.
Oct 30 10:33:37 <thestringpuller>	unless you have access to buy futures
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Oct 30 10:33:48 <thestringpuller>	but I don't anyone who sells futures
Oct 30 10:34:30 <EskimoBob>	We had a friendly short chat and I asked him to write a short post about the progress. Hi kept is word and updated the blog. When sending out the BTC is completed, he will contact the issuers and start clearing up that mess
Oct 30 10:34:48 <gigavps>	EskimoBob the site is now down
Oct 30 10:34:52 <gigavps>	glbse.com
Oct 30 10:34:55 <EskimoBob>	Lets hope he keeps his word :)
Oct 30 10:34:56 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah in asics being first is key, and how much first is key... being 1/4 of the net work while the second place asic guy takes 2 more months... well that would be epic
Oct 30 10:34:58 <EskimoBob>	fuck
Oct 30 10:34:59 <thestringpuller>	so why is he so slow?
Oct 30 10:35:22 <gigavps>	EskimoBob nefario is no longer answering his phone
Oct 30 10:35:39 <dub>	EskimoBob: did you complain about his lack of tightness?
Oct 30 10:35:44 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: https://blog.glbse.com/ is up
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Oct 30 10:36:17 <EskimoBob>	dub: "tightness"? what are you talking about?
Oct 30 10:36:20 <gigavps>	i'm starting to get worried that nefario is going to pull a runner
Oct 30 10:36:43 <copumpkin>	moo
Oct 30 10:36:51 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah.. i have been wondering for a while too giga
Oct 30 10:37:02 <dub>	EskimoBob: your pet hate!
Oct 30 10:37:05 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: take a trip to UK
Oct 30 10:37:07 <Chaang-Noi>	hi pumpkin.. i want has carve you!
Oct 30 10:37:13 <rg>	why run now
Oct 30 10:37:16 <rg>	why not run a month ago
Oct 30 10:37:18 <EskimoBob>	dub: what pet hate?
Oct 30 10:37:34 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 1.32 * 10.70
Oct 30 10:37:34 <gribble>	14.124
Oct 30 10:37:41 <dub>	EskimoBob: you're always complaining about how loose everyone is
Oct 30 10:37:42 <jurov>	like, nef will run with your precious shares?
Oct 30 10:37:43 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 1.32/10.70
Oct 30 10:37:43 <gribble>	0.123364485981
Oct 30 10:37:51 <jurov>	and sell them on silk road?
Oct 30 10:37:59 <Chaang-Noi>	i think it might be that nefario was living off of user funds and does not have enough to pay everyone back... so fake a double payment and fail... this is speculation/FUD
Oct 30 10:37:59 <EskimoBob>	dub: you make no sense. Where did I do that?
Oct 30 10:38:10 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: noesss
Oct 30 10:38:23 <Chaang-Noi>	its time! muhahahah
Oct 30 10:38:43 *	copumpkin carves Chaang-Noi
Oct 30 10:38:50 <dub>	EskimoBob: all over the forum, this person is looser that person is looser.. is anyone tight enough for you?
Oct 30 10:38:53 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Oct 30 10:39:07 <rg>	lil boyz
Oct 30 10:39:07 <Chaang-Noi>	im tight enought for E Bob!
Oct 30 10:40:29 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 1.32/10.83
Oct 30 10:40:29 <gribble>	0.12188365651
Oct 30 10:41:07 <EskimoBob>	dub: looser.. hmm. I must be making same typo over and over again :) "loser"
Oct 30 10:42:23 <dub>	ah.. that makes more sense
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Oct 30 10:43:37 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 10.83 - 10.66
Oct 30 10:43:37 <gribble>	0.17
Oct 30 10:44:04 <Chaang-Noi>	what happens if you send email to support at glbse does it bounce back?
Oct 30 10:44:58 <EskimoBob>	dub: your overstatement of "all over the forum" is on a feminine side. Only 3 posts :)
Oct 30 10:46:03 <dub>	must be the sleep deprivation
Oct 30 10:46:15 <Chaang-Noi>	at first i thought the site being down means nothing as he can still pay out, but then i thought, i bet not everyone has made claims...
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Oct 30 10:47:34 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: I wish people would
Oct 30 10:47:48 <Diablo-D3>	I think Im going to put a notice in the DMC thread
Oct 30 10:47:53 <EskimoBob>	dub: I think you have been talking about this "looser" thing for days now. Get some sleep :)
Oct 30 10:48:10 <Diablo-D3>	if you dont make a claim by the time the information is released, you forfeit your shares
Oct 30 10:50:12 <copumpkin>	"loose" vs. "lose"
Oct 30 10:50:20 <Chaang-Noi>	Diablo-D3 cant do that cuz its not in your contract, also GLBSE is down so people cant amke a claim
Oct 30 10:50:25 <copumpkin>	"noose" vs. "nose"
Oct 30 10:50:32 <EskimoBob>	for some reason I think that the next huge fiasco is related to s.dice
Oct 30 10:51:02 <Chaang-Noi>	them scaming and stealing or govt shutting them down?
Oct 30 10:51:14 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: dude, glbse being shutdown isnt in my contract
Oct 30 10:51:21 <EskimoBob>	shut down
Oct 30 10:51:22 <Diablo-D3>	the end of the world quickly approaching isnt in my contract
Oct 30 10:51:26 <gigavps>	EskimoBob s.dice has been losing big the last couple of days
Oct 30 10:51:39 <gigavps>	sorry, meant the satoshidice.com
Oct 30 10:51:41 <Diablo-D3>	the law draws a line somewhere damnit
Oct 30 10:51:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i know diablo-d3 but you cant make it worse by making shit up. stick to the contract
Oct 30 10:52:02 <EskimoBob>	I hope I am wrong but this crap https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121074.0 is sounding like prelude for something else
Oct 30 10:52:14 <EskimoBob>	or am I just a bit paranoid today
Oct 30 10:52:30 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yeah well, I cant do shit until btcmc, asicminer, and btc-mining does something
Oct 30 10:52:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i know
Oct 30 10:52:47 <Chaang-Noi>	just sit tight, its all you can do
Oct 30 10:52:56 <Chaang-Noi>	dont go around saying you will do shit when you cant
Oct 30 10:53:25 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe someone found how to cheat s.dice giga?
Oct 30 10:54:23 <gigavps>	lol, i've won over 1k coins on that site now
Oct 30 10:54:43 *	gigavps thanks satoshi dice
Oct 30 10:54:48 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: what law? It a fkn half ass anonymous internet cesspool and this amateurish copy/paste legaleese crap ain't helping
Oct 30 10:55:07 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: I think you missed the point.
Oct 30 10:55:25 <Chaang-Noi>	giga i lost about that much
Oct 30 10:55:28 <EskimoBob>	possible
Oct 30 10:55:35 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi lol
Oct 30 10:55:42 <EskimoBob>	how do you play s.dice? I never used it
Oct 30 10:55:44 <Chaang-Noi>	my luck is fucking fail
Oct 30 10:55:53 <Chaang-Noi>	everything i do in btc is fail
Oct 30 10:55:58 <EskimoBob>	and what is the url
Oct 30 10:56:00 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi according to smoothie, you are the "fail captain"
Oct 30 10:56:13 <EskimoBob>	got it
Oct 30 10:56:22 <Chaang-Noi>	he is wrong.. i king of fail... just wait until the SEC jails my ass
Oct 30 10:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20355 @ 0.00046621 = 9.4897 BTC [+]
Oct 30 10:57:06 <OneMiner>	How can you tell if satoshidice is winning or loosing? Do you track that yourself gigavps?
Oct 30 10:57:09 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: pay me back my PPT's you sold me and then you can go and have your fun in jail
Oct 30 10:57:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not sell you shit
Oct 30 10:57:28 <Chaang-Noi>	your broker did
Oct 30 10:57:31 <gigavps>	OneMiner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.0
Oct 30 10:57:40 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario sold you everything
Oct 30 10:57:48 <Chaang-Noi>	you need to talk to him...
Oct 30 10:58:15 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi is taking the most conservative view on the matter, but it is a correct view
Oct 30 10:58:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i lost more on lawyers than statishi dice...
Oct 30 10:58:43 <Chaang-Noi>	like i said im king of fail
Oct 30 10:59:05 <OneMiner>	thanks
Oct 30 11:00:30 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: what broker? There was no broker involved
Oct 30 11:00:42 <Chaang-Noi>	lol go look up what that word means
Oct 30 11:00:59 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz you saying i sold you something is lol
Oct 30 11:01:07 <Chaang-Noi>	i never sold you a thing
Oct 30 11:01:24 <EskimoBob>	what are those "lessthan" in sdice?
Oct 30 11:02:13 <Chaang-Noi>	when did you send me btc eskimobob?
Oct 30 11:02:19 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz i never got it
Oct 30 11:02:23 <Chaang-Noi>	and i never sent you anything back either
Oct 30 11:02:36 <OneMiner>	Almost -700BTC on 14.7kBTC of wagers. That's pretty bad for SD... wow, that's nearly 5%!
Oct 30 11:02:37 <Chaang-Noi>	thank fuck the real world law works liek this...
Oct 30 11:02:58 *	copumpkin is now known as bunnyrabbit
Oct 30 11:03:08 <EskimoBob>	but 14K is nothing compared what they have made
Oct 30 11:03:30 *	bunnyrabbit is now known as copumpkin
Oct 30 11:03:31 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: relax now :)
Oct 30 11:03:59 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah that would be nice
Oct 30 11:04:42 <EskimoBob>	sending BTC just reminded me that long gone usagi was asking for 200+ BTC and promised massive return. Did any of you got your coins back?
Oct 30 11:05:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i did
Oct 30 11:05:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i asked for it back cuz things just did not smeel right
Oct 30 11:05:37 <Chaang-Noi>	he said no and i said fine id just sell the debt on the open market and see what i got
Oct 30 11:05:38 <EskimoBob>	I almost sent that fucker some coin but he went crazy before that
Oct 30 11:05:41 <Chaang-Noi>	so he bought it back
Oct 30 11:06:03 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah s/he going crazy and the odd council with nefario and everything
Oct 30 11:06:14 <Chaang-Noi>	its just seemed all messed up
Oct 30 11:06:20 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: dude, you probably got lucky
Oct 30 11:06:41 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah it was about 200 btc i think
Oct 30 11:06:53 <Chaang-Noi>	but still im so far down 200 seems like nothing
Oct 30 11:07:09 <veemirc>	half of people in BTC business are scammers
Oct 30 11:07:25 *	gigavps must be a scammer
Oct 30 11:07:34 <Chaang-Noi>	505 chance giga
Oct 30 11:07:36 <Chaang-Noi>	50%
Oct 30 11:07:44 *	jurov has secnd thoughts
Oct 30 11:07:48 *	gigavps scams the channel
Oct 30 11:07:51 <gigavps>	there
Oct 30 11:07:54 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f17fWth3YgA
Oct 30 11:08:31 <Chaang-Noi>	glad i sold my gigabonds to buy asic miner.. oh wait.. glbse faill but wait, does not even mater cuz nefario stole my account, lulz
Oct 30 11:09:00 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway im fail king and im off to bed
Oct 30 11:09:02 <Chaang-Noi>	night all
Oct 30 11:09:07 <veemirc>	bye
Oct 30 11:09:29 <OneMiner>	night
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Oct 30 11:10:00 <gigavps>	later fail king
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Oct 30 11:18:16 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 1.32/10.83
Oct 30 11:18:17 <gribble>	0.12188365651
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Oct 30 11:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9572 @ 0.00046601 = 4.4606 BTC [-]
Oct 30 11:23:43 <rg>	da,m
Oct 30 11:23:47 <rg>	i actually had a question for chang
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Oct 30 11:26:42 <Diablo-D3>	you know
Oct 30 11:26:46 <Diablo-D3>	I should make a video game
Oct 30 11:26:48 <Diablo-D3>	an awesome video game
Oct 30 11:26:51 <Diablo-D3>	a video game to end all video games
Oct 30 11:26:59 <Diablo-D3>	internal world currency? bitcoins.
Oct 30 11:27:09 <jurov>	rg, i still have that ipv6 question for you
Oct 30 11:27:12 <thestringpuller>	no
Oct 30 11:27:19 <thestringpuller>	lets play monopoly
Oct 30 11:27:21 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 30 11:27:33 <Diablo-D3>	ha ha imagine monopoly with bitcoins
Oct 30 11:27:55 <jurov>	hehe... only that there will be no jail
Oct 30 11:28:52 <thestringpuller>	we do it every night
Oct 30 11:28:55 <thestringpuller>	i missed last night
Oct 30 11:29:03 <thestringpuller>	.2 btc buy i
Oct 30 11:29:04 <thestringpuller>	in*
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Oct 30 11:31:35 <jurov>	Diablo-D3, they already made some ubergame with devcoins
Oct 30 11:32:10 <jurov>	http://www.devtome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Galactic_Milieu
Oct 30 11:33:18 <jurov>	i'll look into in after i retire perhaps
Oct 30 11:33:22 <jurov>	*into it
Oct 30 11:37:20 <thestringpuller>	jurov
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Oct 30 11:37:39 <jurov>	ä?
Oct 30 11:39:09 <thestringpuller>	is historical data being logged?
Oct 30 11:39:10 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 30 11:40:03 <jurov>	yes. what kind of data exactly?
Oct 30 11:41:51 <thestringpuller>	just price data against volume
Oct 30 11:41:58 <thestringpuller>	i need to run it against option expirations
Oct 30 11:42:55 <thestringpuller>	and current usd price
Oct 30 11:43:03 <thestringpuller>	date price volume
Oct 30 11:44:29 <kakobrekla>	oh not again
Oct 30 11:44:30 <kakobrekla>	[15:22:05] happyworld: i want to ask is there good PHP programer
Oct 30 11:44:30 <kakobrekla>	[16:41:05] Diler.si: what for
Oct 30 11:44:30 <kakobrekla>	[16:41:57] happyworld: i want to make site for bitcoin trading
Oct 30 11:44:30 <kakobrekla>	[16:42:30] Diler.si: what kind of bitcoin trading site
Oct 30 11:44:30 <kakobrekla>	[16:43:07] happyworld: margain trading as Bitcoinica
Oct 30 11:44:30 <kakobrekla>	[16:43:49] happyworld: i want it secure
Oct 30 11:44:31 <kakobrekla>	[16:43:58] happyworld: margain trading
Oct 30 11:44:54 <Diablo-D3>	you know, I never did get any devcoins
Oct 30 11:46:32 <jurov>	thestringpuller, no, i'm saving only mpex trades, not anything usd-related
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Oct 30 11:47:17 <jurov>	maybe there's mtgox or bitcoincharts or clarkmoody api for such
Oct 30 11:47:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4028 @ 0.00046212 = 1.8614 BTC [-]
Oct 30 11:47:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18245 @ 0.00046621 = 8.506 BTC [+]
Oct 30 11:47:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12110 @ 0.0004664 = 5.6481 BTC [+]
Oct 30 11:47:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2517 @ 0.00046708 = 1.1756 BTC [+]
Oct 30 11:49:18 <thestringpuller>	i have that data
Oct 30 11:49:25 <thestringpuller>	i just need timestamp data like from assbo
Oct 30 11:49:27 <thestringpuller>	assbot
Oct 30 11:49:37 <thestringpuller>	jurov ^
Oct 30 11:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 2 @ 0.23363707 = 0.4673 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 11:51:30 <jurov>	something like http://live.coinbr.com/trades24.json?mpsic=S.MPOE ?
Oct 30 11:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 2 @ 0.18264825 = 0.3653 BTC [-]
Oct 30 11:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 2 @ 0.13841608 = 0.2768 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 12:07:22 <jurov>	thestringpuller, did that help?
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Oct 30 12:12:33 <thestringpuller>	yea
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Oct 30 12:14:54 <jurov>	if you need only last hour txs, you can fetch rss directly form mpex
Oct 30 12:15:05 <pigeons>	http://www.rockethub.com/projects/11106-crowdsourcing-discovery
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Oct 30 12:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.000461 = 1.844 BTC [-]
Oct 30 12:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32536 @ 0.00046099 = 14.9988 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 12:36:42 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: interesting link
Oct 30 12:39:10 <pigeons>	;)
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Oct 30 12:45:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 564 @ 0.00046031 = 0.2596 BTC [-]
Oct 30 12:45:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20936 @ 0.00046228 = 9.6783 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 13:47:06 <kakobrekla>	these nuts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119634.msg1307444;topicseen#msg1307444
Oct 30 13:47:08 <kakobrekla>	eh
Oct 30 13:47:11 <kakobrekla>	wrong link
Oct 30 13:47:17 <kakobrekla>	these nuts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119634.msg1307444;topicseen#msg1307444
Oct 30 13:47:44 <kakobrekla>	wait was it was the correct link the first time
Oct 30 13:47:46 <kakobrekla>	i need food.
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Oct 30 13:55:08 <jurov>	why? you wanted a slot too?
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Oct 30 14:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33784 @ 0.00046029 = 15.5504 BTC [-]
Oct 30 14:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8916 @ 0.00045957 = 4.0975 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 14:26:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00046228 = 1.017 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 14:51:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5918 @ 0.00045957 = 2.7197 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 15:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39400 @ 0.00045857 = 18.0677 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 15:17:32 <thestringpuller>	smickles: i pmed you something about my mini margin
Oct 30 15:18:22 <thestringpuller>	also sorry about passing out before we could start a monopoly game we can try again tonight
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Oct 30 15:36:30 <dub>	theymos must be making some srs coin in this 'new forum software' scam
Oct 30 15:40:21 <copumpkin>	lol
Oct 30 15:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00045857 = 3.3934 BTC [-]
Oct 30 15:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00045842 = 0.8252 BTC [-]
Oct 30 15:44:57 <kakobrekla>	preetymuch yea
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Oct 30 15:59:13 <jurov>	;;calc 4*21 + 4*20
Oct 30 15:59:14 <gribble>	164
Oct 30 15:59:20 <jurov>	you mean this?
Oct 30 16:00:17 <thestringpuller>	jurov
Oct 30 16:00:32 <thestringpuller>	what was that link agian to historical data?
Oct 30 16:00:43 <thestringpuller>	is there table data i can access?
Oct 30 16:01:29 <jurov>	http://live.coinbr.com/trades24.json?mpsic=S.MPOE
Oct 30 16:03:24 <jurov>	i can add "since" parameter .. but am not inclined to blow my data cap by supplying too much
Oct 30 16:03:54 <jurov>	or maybe i can provide such only for registered users
Oct 30 16:04:35 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it does :)
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Oct 30 16:04:58 <smickles>	thestringpuller: np about monopoly, we'll play another time
Oct 30 16:05:11 <smickles>	also, are you sure you sent that pm to me?
Oct 30 16:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7582 @ 0.00045938 = 3.483 BTC [+]
Oct 30 16:07:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17264 @ 0.00046228 = 7.9808 BTC [+]
Oct 30 16:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00046335 = 1.0657 BTC [+]
Oct 30 16:07:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20954 @ 0.00046399 = 9.7224 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 16:14:07 <smickles>	'cause I don't see it :o
Oct 30 16:15:29 <thestringpuller>	hey
Oct 30 16:15:32 <thestringpuller>	mang
Oct 30 16:15:34 <thestringpuller>	sorrrry
Oct 30 16:15:45 <thestringpuller>	wanna play monopoly tonight
Oct 30 16:15:54 <thestringpuller>	smickles: ^
Oct 30 16:16:28 <smickles>	thestringpuller: sure, at about 9pm (utc-7)
Oct 30 16:16:45 <thestringpuller>	9 pm mt?
Oct 30 16:16:54 <smickles>	i think so
Oct 30 16:17:10 <smickles>	well, it happens to be the same as mt right now
Oct 30 16:17:27 <smickles>	after the daylight savings time change, it won't be mt anymore
Oct 30 16:17:46 <kakobrekla>	lolwtf http://www.bitcoin-keys.com/Sales.html
Oct 30 16:18:24 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i didn't know that bitcoin was around back in the '90s
Oct 30 16:18:36 <kakobrekla>	:D
Oct 30 16:18:46 <kakobrekla>	man thats what i thought 2 years back
Oct 30 16:18:58 <kakobrekla>	when i discovered it, all sites were like wtf is this real or scammy joke
Oct 30 16:19:13 <kakobrekla>	it=bitcoin
Oct 30 16:20:12 <smickles>	military discount :) maybe i'll consider it
Oct 30 16:20:56 <smickles>	copy of the id? military ids have ssn on them !
Oct 30 16:21:03 <smickles>	who would give out a copy of that?
Oct 30 16:21:57 <jurov>	"Verification is all digital 15-20 minute process that includes a digital document signed digitally by you. You will also be required to submit a I.D. and Credit Card/Debit card  with all but the last 4 digits blocked out. "
Oct 30 16:22:16 <kakobrekla>	lol on the frontpage text gets cut
Oct 30 16:22:23 <kakobrekla>	"I also check my email frequently during off hours for yo"
Oct 30 16:23:56 <jurov>	this is genial. user will pay $5 for "verification" - privilege to submit personal documents that can be reused to verify mtgox acct, for example
Oct 30 16:24:10 <jurov>	double whammy
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Oct 30 16:27:25 <BTC-Mining>	smickles/jurov, hopefully, watermarking it/blurring ssn is okay.
Oct 30 16:27:43 <BTC-Mining>	So they can't be reused elsewhere
Oct 30 16:28:33 <kakobrekla>	>ALL SALES REQUIRE VERIFICATION NOW
Oct 30 16:28:39 <kakobrekla>	how the hell do i buy verification then
Oct 30 16:31:49 <BTC-Mining>	Sale of verification excluded of course... why require verification for something you don't care if it's chargebacked.
Oct 30 16:32:08 <kakobrekla>	Coming Soon! When you are verified a number will be assigned to you, if you are every buying something form someone in the community you send me a email. I will email the person ask for your verification the number, you then confirm your number with the person who is asking. No one ever see's anything but your number. 100% secure on both ends!
Oct 30 16:32:08 <kakobrekla>	Cost Free
Oct 30 16:32:10 <kakobrekla>	^^
Oct 30 16:32:35 <kakobrekla>	i dont even..
Oct 30 16:32:39 <jurov>	as i said... he wants to reuse your ID for mtgox registration
Oct 30 16:33:15 <BTC-Mining>	watermark the ID
Oct 30 16:33:35 <kakobrekla>	just dont use the service
Oct 30 16:33:43 <kakobrekla>	its silly
Oct 30 16:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00045968 = 2.0226 BTC [-]
Oct 30 16:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00046399 = 10.6718 BTC [+]
Oct 30 16:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00046598 = 0.7922 BTC [+]
Oct 30 16:35:53 <BTC-Mining>	Well then, watermark 500 IDs from around the world. Send them all and ask "Choose one, whichever you find the most acceptable."
Oct 30 16:37:52 <jurov>	someone obviously has too much time on their hands
Oct 30 16:42:59 <kakobrekla>	mnw? http://i.minus.com/ilYIIP2c9rSly.gif
Oct 30 16:46:03 <BTC-Mining>	I also have juice containing mashed sweet potato. But I'd trade it for more free time to look up ingredients list on things I consume for more odd ingredients and chemicals.
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Oct 30 16:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00045953 = 3.6762 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 17:24:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00045842 = 5.4094 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 17:31:17 <thestringpuller>	jurov
Oct 30 17:31:19 <thestringpuller>	jurov
Oct 30 17:31:37 <thestringpuller>	mr. broker man
Oct 30 17:33:20 <jurov>	you're lucky, i almost went already
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Oct 30 17:34:35 <thestringpuller>	cam i send coina your way for margin?
Oct 30 17:34:57 <thestringpuller>	i wanma get ahead of the wall before the price shoots up...
Oct 30 17:35:43 <jurov>	yes, you can
Oct 30 17:41:22 <thestringpuller>	you still thwew?
Oct 30 17:41:25 <thestringpuller>	there?
Oct 30 17:41:50 <jurov>	yea, waiting for you
Oct 30 17:42:33 <thestringpuller>	sent
Oct 30 17:43:11 <thestringpuller>	lemme know when i can trade. thanks for the convenience
Oct 30 17:44:22 <jurov>	done
Oct 30 17:47:58 <thestringpuller>	transaction should hit next block
Oct 30 17:48:33 <jurov>	yes, i see it, i have updated your balance without waiting for tx
Oct 30 17:49:07 <jurov>	you can trade nao
Oct 30 17:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00045931 = 2.664 BTC [+]
Oct 30 17:50:17 <jurov>	* er, without waiting for block
Oct 30 17:50:24 <jurov>	am not so reckless
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Oct 30 17:53:40 <jurov>	looks like that "instant mpex funding" can be quite attractive marketing-wise... but must have reliable bitcoind monitoring + enough reserve at mpex first...
Oct 30 17:54:19 <mod6>	yeah, that worked out pretty slick it looks like
Oct 30 17:55:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00045931 = 2.7559 BTC [+]
Oct 30 17:55:15 <thestringpuller>	thas what brokers are for
Oct 30 17:55:21 <thestringpuller>	insta funding is a wot thing
Oct 30 17:55:43 <thestringpuller>	its like pseudo margin
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Oct 30 17:58:58 <jurov>	it does not need extra trust, i don't see a problem doing it for anyone
Oct 30 17:59:23 <thestringpuller>	heh
Oct 30 17:59:34 <thestringpuller>	you need a green address style thingoe
Oct 30 17:59:37 <thestringpuller>	thingie*
Oct 30 18:01:06 <jurov>	like 1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb ?
Oct 30 18:01:38 <jurov>	but i need one per user anyway
Oct 30 18:10:22 <thestringpuller>	will that bid wall on mpoe have an effect?
Oct 30 18:12:18 <jurov>	oh that..... iirc it's put there by mircea himself, long time ago
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Oct 30 18:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7557 @ 0.00045842 = 3.4643 BTC [-]
Oct 30 18:20:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24043 @ 0.00045819 = 11.0163 BTC [-]
Oct 30 18:20:21 <jurov>	*it's been put there is moar correct, no?
Oct 30 18:22:28 <thestringpuller>	no the smaller one
Oct 30 18:22:57 <thestringpuller>	.00044939 @ sell depth ~ 1m
Oct 30 18:23:25 <thestringpuller>	people are selling into the wall
Oct 30 18:25:51 <jurov>	goodnight..have to wake early
Oct 30 18:29:54 *	mircea_popescu reads up
Oct 30 18:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you have a data cap ?
Oct 30 18:30:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you crazy romanian
Oct 30 18:33:17 <mircea_popescu>	hallo
Oct 30 18:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 30 18:35:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.75104, Best ask: 10.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08896, Last trade: 10.84000, 24 hour volume: 24221.65679096, 24 hour low: 10.58000, 24 hour high: 10.85000, 24 hour vwap: 10.73588
Oct 30 18:35:49 <mircea_popescu>	o headed back to 11 ?
Oct 30 18:37:29 *	copumpkin turns it up to 11
Oct 30 18:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 30 18:40:10 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: if i visit romania can we hang out and go to romanian strip clubs?
Oct 30 18:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134621792179.jpg butt at 11.
Oct 30 18:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller maybe.
Oct 30 18:40:51 <pigeons>	no strip clubs in romania yet, but mircea's has a sister
Oct 30 18:41:02 <pigeons>	#1 in all of romanistan
Oct 30 18:42:04 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: so option prices will decline as the month closes?
Oct 30 18:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Oct 30 18:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	option price has a time component
Oct 30 18:42:56 <thestringpuller>	it feels like tehy are most effective at the end of the month...
Oct 30 18:43:20 <copumpkin>	thestringpuller: most effective?
Oct 30 18:43:35 <thestringpuller>	best to buy...
Oct 30 18:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	maybe
Oct 30 18:43:51 <copumpkin>	assuming he doesn't have a silly strategy, they're probably no better to buy
Oct 30 18:44:01 <copumpkin>	unless there's external information that he hasn't factored in
Oct 30 18:44:03 <thestringpuller>	the only reason my options paid off was the price was low during a price swap
Oct 30 18:44:19 <thestringpuller>	timing is the key factor...
Oct 30 18:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	nobody succeeds in timing the market.
Oct 30 18:44:58 <copumpkin>	it sure gets wannabe traders' rocks off though
Oct 30 18:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	true
Oct 30 18:45:04 <copumpkin>	best let people think they can
Oct 30 18:45:06 <thestringpuller>	not 100% of the time
Oct 30 18:45:23 <copumpkin>	the time is irrelevant
Oct 30 18:45:27 <copumpkin>	you want more than 50% of the money ;)
Oct 30 18:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00045868 = 2.9814 BTC [+]
Oct 30 18:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	this has been the greatest fallacy in economics. the notion that human agency can improve the end results.
Oct 30 18:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	in fact hedge funds consistently underperform indexes.
Oct 30 18:46:03 <copumpkin>	except for a couple :)
Oct 30 18:46:31 <mircea_popescu>	ya, except for a couple : one that doesn't try to time and another that got there by accident.
Oct 30 18:46:42 <copumpkin>	:P
Oct 30 18:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Oct 30 18:47:42 <mod6>	haha
Oct 30 18:47:59 <thestringpuller>	what do they use instead of timing?
Oct 30 18:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin i particularly enjoy the fact that all sorts of imbecile "economists" explain how vulnerable bitcoin is to "well established strategies"
Oct 30 18:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	and then i fail to see them raping bitcoin on mpex with those "well established" strategies of theirs.
Oct 30 18:48:28 <copumpkin>	duuude, just look at the charts
Oct 30 18:48:33 <copumpkin>	I'mma draw a fibonacci spiral
Oct 30 18:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	right-o
Oct 30 18:48:45 <mod6>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-22/peak-career-risk-only-8-hedge-funds-are-outperforming-market
Oct 30 18:48:50 <copumpkin>	I'll invite you to my yacht later
Oct 30 18:49:14 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what strategy would you use? or is it a trade secret?
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Oct 30 18:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	"Bitcoin takes the monetary system back essentially a hundred years. We know how to beat that system. In fact, we know how to nuke it for profit"
Oct 30 18:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	and yet...
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Oct 30 18:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i use the strategy of "try to build useful things"
Oct 30 18:50:57 <copumpkin>	mod6: where do they get their data?
Oct 30 18:51:26 <copumpkin>	oh, from that chart from GS
Oct 30 18:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	sloppy 2nds
Oct 30 18:52:26 <mod6>	copumpkin: here's another i just found: http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2012-07-10/hfr-h1-hedge-funds-first-half-performance
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Oct 30 18:53:09 <mod6>	anyway, its been widly reported this year -- just seaching on google for stuff.
Oct 30 18:53:58 <thestringpuller>	build useful things?
Oct 30 18:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the massacre hedge funds are suffering at the hands of a compeltely imaginary stock market is really sad.
Oct 30 18:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	they should be rewarded for their prudence not punished for not having been dumb enough to play bernanke
Oct 30 18:55:17 <copumpkin>	mod6: oh, I was just looking for a list of who was doing better
Oct 30 18:55:45 <mod6>	oh my bad. :)
Oct 30 18:58:04 <mod6>	here's another one:
Oct 30 18:58:04 <mod6>	“Hedge funds are up 3.04% year-to-date as of September, 2012, compared to 13.97% for the S&P 500,” said Mary Ann Bartels, technical research analyst at Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
Oct 30 18:58:08 <mod6>	“This ranks as the third worst relative performance for Q1-Q3 since our records begin in 1994, following 1995’s 12.8% and 1997’s 11%.”
Oct 30 18:58:25 <mod6>	http://business.financialpost.com/2012/10/01/relative-hedge-fund-returns-worst-since-1997/
Oct 30 19:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00045868 = 4.174 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00045931 = 14.652 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18680 @ 0.00046598 = 8.7045 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8583 @ 0.00046708 = 4.0089 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.000468 = 1.872 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00046805 = 2.6679 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00046864 = 18.6987 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00046909 = 5.676 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00046956 = 6.8086 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42025 @ 0.00046956 = 19.7333 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8959 @ 0.00046965 = 4.2076 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.0004705 = 2.7289 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00047103 = 7.772 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00047186 = 3.6805 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44300 @ 0.00047269 = 20.9402 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00047316 = 13.6743 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:02:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1157 @ 0.00047992 = 0.5553 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700096 @ 0.00048 = 336.0461 BTC [+]
Oct 30 19:02:26 <mod6>	rally
Oct 30 19:02:33 <mircea_popescu>	o wow it was 45 ?
Oct 30 19:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	then again... october was a pretty darn shitty month.
Oct 30 19:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe made a wash, s.dice i guess will report its first loss ?
Oct 30 19:04:57 <smickles>	well, if people value mpex in terms of usd, a drop in usd/btc should mean s.mpoe rally
Oct 30 19:05:08 <smickles>	with a little lag, it seems
Oct 30 19:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	why would people value mpex in terms of usd ?
Oct 30 19:06:23 <thestringpuller>	btc/usd value is on the rise
Oct 30 19:06:42 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you can get more shares for your btc
Oct 30 19:06:48 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 30 19:06:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.81400, Best ask: 10.81999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00599, Last trade: 10.82000, 24 hour volume: 24414.81850755, 24 hour low: 10.58000, 24 hour high: 10.85000, 24 hour vwap: 10.73950
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Oct 30 19:07:32 <thestringpuller>	in terms of usd
Oct 30 19:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	i still don't see it.
Oct 30 19:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, i guess some do, but
Oct 30 19:09:20 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: It might be justifiable for someone with net worth which is mostly tied up in usd to value even things like MPEx in usd
Oct 30 19:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	like a convenience thing ?
Oct 30 19:10:41 <smickles>	convenience could be one reason. relatedly, maybe they can only 'think' in terms of usd
Oct 30 19:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	aka convenience. maybe so.
Oct 30 19:11:33 <smickles>	or they see it as an investment where they want a return in usd terms, they don't care about btc value fluctuations
Oct 30 19:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	ya i guess if they do that then weakening of btc/usd is actually buy signal for s.mpoe
Oct 30 19:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	as in, "get more shares of the same company for the same usd"
Oct 30 19:12:47 <smickles>	exactly
Oct 30 19:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	then lag would measure their usd -> btc -> mpex latency
Oct 30 19:13:05 <smickles>	additionally, their awareness
Oct 30 19:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	ya. like 24 hours, that's not too bad
Oct 30 19:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121158.0 i coulda sworn somebody was doing this exactly
Oct 30 19:15:34 <smickles>	yeah jjjimy or whatever his name is
Oct 30 19:16:15 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Oct 30 19:16:19 <smickles>	or did he get taken out in some way?
Oct 30 19:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	of the old guys
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Oct 30 19:17:39 <smickles>	your sec sigline seems to be getting good exposure (for the forum)
Oct 30 19:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	it certainly seems to have broken the psychosis.
Oct 30 19:26:44 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: whats next?
Oct 30 19:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	who knows ?
Oct 30 19:28:18 <thestringpuller>	you do
Oct 30 19:28:25 <thestringpuller>	mr. illuminati
Oct 30 19:28:36 <thestringpuller>	i bet you manipulate the markets
Oct 30 19:28:38 <thestringpuller>	lol jk
Oct 30 19:28:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18970 @ 0.00046037 = 8.7332 BTC [-]
Oct 30 19:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	and also slept with pirate's hot sister
Oct 30 19:29:20 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=B.MPCD.C
Oct 30 19:29:25 <smickles>	lol
Oct 30 19:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Oct 30 19:30:38 <smickles>	at least it isn't a buy order
Oct 30 19:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	"he also lied about having an OTC rating at the time if the transaction to get me to send first. I was knew and didn't know what OCT was then and was desperate for money so I foolishly agreed."
Oct 30 19:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	people should buy moar grammer
Oct 30 19:31:54 <smickles>	wow, i'ven't the mind to understand that
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Oct 30 19:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	"I thought genjix had to eat catfood + bits of newspaper cause he was so poor ?" 0.0
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Oct 30 19:50:03 <mircea_popescu>	o also, f.giga.etf going away on dec 1st, if anyone missed it earlier
Oct 30 19:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121308.0
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Oct 30 19:54:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00045982 = 0.4138 BTC [-]
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Oct 30 19:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Oct 30 19:56:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.80101, Best ask: 10.88754, Bid-ask spread: 0.08653, Last trade: 10.80100, 24 hour volume: 25732.98766624, 24 hour low: 10.58000, 24 hour high: 10.89000, 24 hour vwap: 10.75200
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Oct 30 20:01:59 <BTC-Mining>	What if the information is released at a later date?
Oct 30 20:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the proceeds get donated.
Oct 30 20:03:51 <BTC-Mining>	=/
Oct 30 20:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	what can i tell you.
Oct 30 20:04:28 <mircea_popescu>	it's been a month already. november is another month. how much later than that ? 2014 ?
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Oct 30 20:05:26 <BTC-Mining>	Well maybe not.
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Oct 30 20:06:32 <BTC-Mining>	But seeing as he sent payments (the good amounts) to many and it's not completed after one month, it doesn't look like he lost the database. But he's been incredibly slow.
Oct 30 20:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	irl dividends are paid yearly. in bitcoin people expect weekly, some even daily. monthly is considered VERY rarely.
Oct 30 20:07:18 <mircea_popescu>	yet when it comes to booking losses... nobody thinks o look, five weeks that's five irl years
Oct 30 20:07:20 <BTC-Mining>	So if he releases data, I would doubt it would happen by December 1st
Oct 30 20:07:31 <mircea_popescu>	really ?
Oct 30 20:07:48 <BTC-Mining>	really what?
Oct 30 20:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's much like missing persons. those not found in twoo weeks are never found.
Oct 30 20:10:36 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, but it's not like Nefario disappeared without any news with everything.
Oct 30 20:11:14 <BTC-Mining>	If one day, the website had suddenly disappeared along with Nefario, that would be acceptable.
Oct 30 20:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	well... the way these things work is that there's some communication originally... but nothing comes of it.
Oct 30 20:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoinica's still not paid. people still entertain the notion they will get something back, obviously, but it's been what, half a year.
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Oct 30 20:12:13 <BTC-Mining>	But Nefario paid many people so far =/
Oct 30 20:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	bitfloor... went down, guy asked for our help, now he's gone.
Oct 30 20:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining paid some people originally. that was weeks ago. then he stopped payng, and now his site is gone.
Oct 30 20:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	(in fact, it may well be argued nefario stole the few k btc he had of glbse money, then insisted theymos return the few hundred he held, then used that to pay SOME people and end of story there)
Oct 30 20:13:48 <BTC-Mining>	Last 2 statements seems innaccurate.
Oct 30 20:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	did he pay more than what theymos held ?
Oct 30 20:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	i recall you had a thread about it
Oct 30 20:14:29 <BTC-Mining>	Apparently, a lot more.
Oct 30 20:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	how much does it all add up to, got al ink handy ?
Oct 30 20:15:11 <BTC-Mining>	From only declared claims which are a lot fewer than the payment chains seen those claims are included in.
Oct 30 20:15:26 <BTC-Mining>	Let me fetch that
Oct 30 20:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	nm found it
Oct 30 20:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	i see ~1300 btc ? (why not add a TOTAL at the end ?)
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Oct 30 20:16:49 <BTC-Mining>	Not a bad idea
Oct 30 20:17:46 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, a key consideration is that those shareholder lists are only useful early on. they decay so to speak
Oct 30 20:18:41 <BTC-Mining>	But claims are included in payment chains for much larger amounts. It is yet to see if users received all of those without more claims.
Oct 30 20:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	suppsoe i have a 1k btc payment in my wallet (and it's all i have)
Oct 30 20:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	if i pay you 100 btc, is it right that my program takes 100 btc to your address and 900 btc to another address of mine ?
Oct 30 20:19:37 <BTC-Mining>	Yup
Oct 30 20:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16457 @ 0.00045819 = 7.5404 BTC [-]
Oct 30 20:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	so...
Oct 30 20:20:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5243 @ 0.00045799 = 2.4012 BTC [-]
Oct 30 20:20:03 <BTC-Mining>	Should be like that, considering that's how bitcoin transactions work...
Oct 30 20:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	much more importantly tho, were all the payments sorta early oct ?
Oct 30 20:21:06 <BTC-Mining>	Mid october. Had been over a week.
Oct 30 20:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	mk
Oct 30 20:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	so what makes you think that the lists will be released, but after december ?
Oct 30 20:21:55 <BTC-Mining>	At least for mine. I was one of the first paid out I think.
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Oct 30 20:24:25 <BTC-Mining>	Because since Nefario did not disappear with the funds, I still believe it is in the "realm of probable" that he'll release the information, and not in the "realm of possible"
Oct 30 20:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	ok, so  you believe he'll release it
Oct 30 20:25:55 <mircea_popescu>	but why wouyld it take another month ?
Oct 30 20:25:57 <BTC-Mining>	You know how it was. Nefario would say he'd have a new feature released next week and end up completing it 2 month laters.
Oct 30 20:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	you gotta be kidding me
Oct 30 20:26:37 <BTC-Mining>	He also managed to screw up payments on the 16th
Oct 30 20:27:31 <BTC-Mining>	and he seems to want to send all balances out before then giving the addresses to issuers.
Oct 30 20:27:45 <mircea_popescu>	so when exactly do you expect the shareholder lists to be released ?
Oct 30 20:28:15 <BTC-Mining>	Somewhere in the next weeks to 3 months
Oct 30 20:28:58 <BTC-Mining>	After that I'd probably start to assume he managed to lose the database after closing GLBSE
Oct 30 20:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	mk, so wanna bet the shareholder lists aren't released by feb 1st ?
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Oct 30 20:32:48 <BTC-Mining>	feb 1st? I'd bet you 5 BTC it is released by then. (For those who submitted their information, not in full.)
Oct 30 20:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	what were decent-ish assets there ? giga, asicminer and what'd be a third ?
Oct 30 20:34:58 <BTC-Mining>	Bitbond
Oct 30 20:35:10 <kakobrekla>	so who is going to escrow the bet
Oct 30 20:35:14 <BTC-Mining>	and quite a few lowball mining operations
Oct 30 20:35:45 <BTC-Mining>	Mutual trust?
Oct 30 20:36:00 <BTC-Mining>	Unless mircea wants an escrow for this one.
Oct 30 20:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	mkay. so " by feb 1st more than half the shareholders are reinstated in at least two of gigamining, asicminer, bitbond as a result of nefario releasing the lists to the respective asset owners"
Oct 30 20:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	is our bet.
Oct 30 20:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	works for you ?
Oct 30 20:38:18 <BTC-Mining>	I have no idea what proportion of holders gave their info to be sent to issuer. I would go more by the lack of complaints that some submitted their info and weren't included in the list sent to issuer.
Oct 30 20:39:35 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Oct 30 20:39:54 <mircea_popescu>	but i mean... if not even half the shareholders are reinstated the thing is moot anyway
Oct 30 20:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	might as well not have happened
Oct 30 20:41:17 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, but if the contact information was not given, it's impossible to release that info to issuers anyway. But technically, that means Nefario would have released the full list if he could have done so, so theorically, it would be done.
Oct 30 20:42:23 <BTC-Mining>	Let's say, if any of gigamining, asicminer or bitbond have together a total of at least 2 or more complaints from members with 50+ posts that they submitted their info but are not included in the released list, or the information for any of those 3 asset is not released at all by February 1st, it shall be deamed the information was not released.
Oct 30 20:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	well so theoretically he's done it already ><
Oct 30 20:42:52 <mircea_popescu>	ok, i guess i can go with that for 5 btc
Oct 30 20:43:19 <BTC-Mining>	No, because he received the contact information from an unkown amount of persons but no issuers were forwarded that info. So even theorically, he has not released the data.
Oct 30 20:44:22 <mircea_popescu>	im mostly curious to find what exact way does nefario find to both fuck up in some entirely unexpected novel way and also render this bet moot in one fell swoop
Oct 30 20:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00045799 = 12.2283 BTC [-]
Oct 30 20:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19867 @ 0.00045982 = 9.1352 BTC [+]
Oct 30 20:46:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00046388 = 5.5666 BTC [+]
Oct 30 20:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24733 @ 0.00046502 = 11.5013 BTC [+]
Oct 30 20:46:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43400 @ 0.0004657 = 20.2114 BTC [+]
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Oct 30 20:50:09 <BTC-Mining>	He'll accidentally provoke a vacuum metastability event, resulting in a stabler state propagating throughout the Universe at the speed of light, defining new constants for the laws of physics, rendering all Earth and its matter... different.
Oct 30 20:50:33 <BTC-Mining>	Rendering everything seen by humans pretty much meaningless.
Oct 30 20:50:38 <BTC-Mining>	Including the bet.
Oct 30 20:50:48 <BTC-Mining>	How does that sound?
Oct 30 20:51:15 <dub>	wat
Oct 30 20:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	that sounds muchly exaggerated.
Oct 30 20:52:33 <BTC-Mining>	Yes. It is.
Oct 30 20:53:20 <BTC-Mining>	It's the most blown out of proportion screw up someone could do.
Oct 30 20:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess he just mixes the shareholder tables
Oct 30 20:53:55 <mircea_popescu>	sends company 1 list for company 2
Oct 30 20:54:23 <BTC-Mining>	eh, I'd consider that as information not released.
Oct 30 20:54:51 <BTC-Mining>	As the correct issuer would not have the correct information.
Oct 30 20:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	ya but he wouldn't know this
Oct 30 20:55:41 <mircea_popescu>	and seeing how there's maybe a coupla dozen actual people with actual investments
Oct 30 20:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	and they mostly held everything, being re
Oct 30 20:56:21 <BTC-Mining>	That he knows matter not. Just that each issuer receives all the information Nefario was aware of, and that they have the correct information.
Oct 30 20:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	being rearranged aroung might not even be noticed
Oct 30 20:56:58 <BTC-Mining>	Since AML was not required and the majority probably claimed...
Oct 30 20:57:24 <BTC-Mining>	I would doubt it would go unnoticed.
Oct 30 20:57:34 <BTC-Mining>	The total amount of shares vary a lot.
Oct 30 20:57:53 <BTC-Mining>	From one issue to the other.
Oct 30 20:57:53 <mircea_popescu>	well ok then
Oct 30 20:58:24 <BTC-Mining>	Plus some people would certainly they got shares of X instead of Y.
Oct 30 20:58:33 <BTC-Mining>	Some might not complain... but many would.
Oct 30 20:58:42 <BTC-Mining>	I'm sure the outcome will be very clear.
Oct 30 20:59:57 <BTC-Mining>	oh, and dub
Oct 30 21:00:00 <BTC-Mining>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum
Oct 30 21:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	Barack Obama will be re-elected as the president of USA
Oct 30 21:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	955.94 347.20
Oct 30 21:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	Mitt Romney will be elected President of the USA
Oct 30 21:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	80.90 227.78
Oct 30 21:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 227.78 / 80.9
Oct 30 21:00:59 <gribble>	2.81557478368
Oct 30 21:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 955.94/347.20
Oct 30 21:01:06 <gribble>	2.75328341014
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Oct 30 21:05:26 <BTC-Mining>	But really, what bothers me is not the delisting (and trading stopping, which would be appropriate), but the complete deletion of data. The ETF has no terms reserving yourself the right to arbitrarily void the obligation.
Oct 30 21:06:41 <BTC-Mining>	I would expect the obligation to be honored, wether the assets resurface in 1 day or 2 years.
Oct 30 21:07:29 <BTC-Mining>	Keeping the data aside doesn't cost much logistically.
Oct 30 21:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	well, it is kept aside if you keep your stats.
Oct 30 21:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	mpex isn't designed to be a sort of glbse
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Oct 30 21:10:15 <BTC-Mining>	Hmm, but the data does exist. Wouldn't a simple backup of the tables containing the data for the ETF be enough?
Oct 30 21:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	enough for what tho ?
Oct 30 21:11:12 <BTC-Mining>	To reinstate it should it become possible.
Oct 30 21:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00046534 = 11.3543 BTC [-]
Oct 30 21:12:30 <mircea_popescu>	nah, if it doesn't come to its senses by dec 1st it's not getting reinstated.
Oct 30 21:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	some direct thing, maybe, but glbse shares, no.
Oct 30 21:13:19 <BTC-Mining>	That's the thing, they would be direct shares with Gigamining should the information be released.
Oct 30 21:13:35 <BTC-Mining>	not GLBSE shares
Oct 30 21:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	basically, the reasoning is this : there was a company organised to finance a ship sent to wherever.
Oct 30 21:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	that ship was lost at sea
Oct 30 21:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	if it's not heard from in X time, the company is dissolved as worthless.
Oct 30 21:14:40 <BTC-Mining>	Gigavps keeps track of all payments due and if information is released, will pay all what is due.
Oct 30 21:15:01 <BTC-Mining>	The "company" is neither lost, or getting dissolved.
Oct 30 21:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	the etf held glbse shares.
Oct 30 21:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's the ship.
Oct 30 21:15:40 <mircea_popescu>	sure, the concept of spices, or the concept of cargo, or the ship's destination still exists.
Oct 30 21:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	but the ship itself is lost at sea.
Oct 30 21:16:29 <BTC-Mining>	The ship's location is known. Who the cargo is to be delivered to is not known.
Oct 30 21:16:43 <BTC-Mining>	GLBSE simply either hasn't released who had how many shares.
Oct 30 21:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	but glbse.com is no longer responding, is it.
Oct 30 21:17:42 <BTC-Mining>	Nefario still talked to a few people recently. But doesn't answer publicly or to support requests.
Oct 30 21:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	not what i said tho.
Oct 30 21:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	glbse.com is no longer responding, the website itself.
Oct 30 21:18:13 <BTC-Mining>	Probably because they consist on thousands upon thousands of tickets looking like: "I haven't received my balance yet. Why?"
Oct 30 21:18:22 <BTC-Mining>	Ah, GLBSE.com
Oct 30 21:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	yes. so no, the ship's location is not known.
Oct 30 21:18:33 <mircea_popescu>	it USED to be known.
Oct 30 21:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	and back when it still was known, we were still waiting.
Oct 30 21:19:05 <BTC-Mining>	I don't see how GLBSE is the ship. The ship is Gigavps's mining operation.
Oct 30 21:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	well that's an incorrect representation. obviously it may be convenient, but it's not the case.
Oct 30 21:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	the etf held glbse shares, nothing else.
Oct 30 21:20:06 <BTC-Mining>	Your IPO technically states: "The owner of this ETF holds 900 perpetual 5.0Mh/s bonds (details), "
Oct 30 21:20:22 <BTC-Mining>	Not GLBSE shares, GIGAMINING mining bonds.
Oct 30 21:20:40 <kakobrekla>	the ship is sailing in milk.
Oct 30 21:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	there's sufficient reference to "owning shares" to satisfy this point.
Oct 30 21:21:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol kakobrekla
Oct 30 21:22:59 <BTC-Mining>	The shares were traded on GLBSE. But GLBSE was never the ship. It never mined or produced the returns. It was merely sending the ship where it was to be delivered. Now the ship doesn't know where to go.
Oct 30 21:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	The shares were traded on GLBSE. But GLBSE was never the ship. << what's this, cognitive dissonance 101 ?
Oct 30 21:24:30 <BTC-Mining>	Because GLBSE was never the shares or represented them, they were merely a platform to exchange the bonds.
Oct 30 21:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	this is not true.
Oct 30 21:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is true of mpex, yes, because mpex is correctly designed
Oct 30 21:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	not the case of glbse however.
Oct 30 21:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	with glbse, nefario == glbse == the shares. there's no way to actually make these distinctions you'd like
Oct 30 21:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	sure, they're desperately needed, but unfortunately did not exist.
Oct 30 21:26:09 <kakobrekla>	I think Pirates like Goats Milk.
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Oct 30 21:31:27 <BTC-Mining>	What you're saying sounds like if my broker, after the NYSE let's say is hit by a meteor and trading is halted, coming to me to say he has no news of when it will come back and that holders data might or might not be lost, possibly never to come back and says "You have to let go." (said in a very comforting voice, patting you on the shoulder, with a grin on his face), because obviously
Oct 30 21:31:28 <BTC-Mining>	the traded company and their stock don't exist without the stock exchange. So he'll delete all his records of which stocks that he held in my name because he consider the ship lost at see. And if data comes back: "Oh sorry. Can't give you anything, I don't have records showing what I owe you."
Oct 30 21:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	why does it sound like that ?
Oct 30 21:33:54 <BTC-Mining>	Because that's exactly what you're doing? Except the moment where you tell me I have to let go.
Oct 30 21:34:49 <BTC-Mining>	It's not like someone lost at see who is declared as such because he can't survive too long in the open sea so all efforts should be abandoned. Shares can't die, even if lost for years.
Oct 30 21:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	but you are familiar with the circumstance that the nyse merely trades, there's clearing houses and depositary isntitutions which actually hold the shares and settle/clear the transactions
Oct 30 21:34:53 <mircea_popescu>	correct ?
Oct 30 21:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	well ?!
Oct 30 21:37:45 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, and it should have been done. The fact GLBSE was 100% central seems moot however. Because the fact the data might not resurface and the broker might not get access to the shares he held for me does not excuse him to erase all data just for the heck of it based on his personal expectations of what will happen. I would expect the same from someone managing an ETF.
Oct 30 21:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00046534 = 6.9801 BTC [-]
Oct 30 21:37:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00046531 = 1.0702 BTC [-]
Oct 30 21:38:13 <BTC-Mining>	Especially with something as easy to avoid by simply not willingly deleting the data.
Oct 30 21:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	so, to  fix your example : if a rain of meteors obliterates the nyse, and each and all scrap of trace of the existance, chain of custody and so forth of an asset
Oct 30 21:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	will you be surprised if your broker says, after a few years/a decade, "sorry" and moves on ?
Oct 30 21:39:02 <BTC-Mining>	After a decade, no.
Oct 30 21:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 30 21:39:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's been 8 dividend periods.
Oct 30 21:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	that's close to a decade.
Oct 30 21:39:38 <BTC-Mining>	It hasn't been a decade however.
Oct 30 21:39:50 <mircea_popescu>	but this isn't an irl broker, however.
Oct 30 21:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	time moves at a different pace here, as proven by the fact dividends are not paid yearly.
Oct 30 21:40:57 <BTC-Mining>	If no trace are found of records and it's obvious they were destroyed, I would not mind that my broker moves on and asks the same of me. But this is not the case.
Oct 30 21:41:12 <BTC-Mining>	Time does not move at a different pace?
Oct 30 21:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	now, i haven't DONE THIS FIRST, but announced it with ample time in advance exactly so as to have the opportunity for this sort of conversation
Oct 30 21:42:43 <BTC-Mining>	Dividends are paid more often simply because Bitcoins (and bitcoin mining) allows income and sharing of it much faster without all the financial fees to send those funds around. Not because time magically paces faster around Bitcoins.
Oct 30 21:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	again, cognitive dissonance 101 ?
Oct 30 21:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	things happen faster but they don't happen faster ?
Oct 30 21:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	well, why not ?
Oct 30 21:43:54 <BTC-Mining>	The dividends happen faster. Time does not move faster. They are different things.
Oct 30 21:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	your irl broker will move on after 10 dividend periods, aka a decade irl. mpex moves on after 10 dividend periods, aka 2 months irl.
Oct 30 21:44:16 <mircea_popescu>	seems rather reasonable.
Oct 30 21:45:17 <BTC-Mining>	I would attribute the frequent dividend to the nature of Bitcoins. They allow it for not being as slow and not requiring such wire fees for sending funds. Plus the small nature of operations can also manage to pay more often.
Oct 30 21:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 30 21:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	but the asset has in fact already missed something like 5 or 6 dividend payments, correct ?
Oct 30 21:46:06 <BTC-Mining>	The time my IRL broker moves on is not based on dividend periods, it's based on leaving time for the recovery of record. That dividends are paid every day or every 10 years matters not.
Oct 30 21:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	well, why not ?
Oct 30 21:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	if "allows income and sharing of it much faster" that'd seem on the face that it... allows... things...moving...faster.
Oct 30 21:47:15 <mircea_popescu>	why should just some things move faster ?
Oct 30 21:47:22 <BTC-Mining>	Because why would he wait before moving on? For data recovery if possible. If not possible, move on.
Oct 30 21:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 30 21:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	so you are literally telling me that it takes two months to do a couple sql queries on nefario's end ?
Oct 30 21:48:14 <BTC-Mining>	Data recovery is completly unrelated and independant of payment periods.
Oct 30 21:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	it's not like he has to dig out records from a 5mn folders pile of paper.
Oct 30 21:48:31 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's not lol
Oct 30 21:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	since the very reason you gave for faster payment periods was ease of handling the data
Oct 30 21:50:01 <BTC-Mining>	Well who's to say because it is easy and faster, it will be done so? You could pay out on S.MPOE daily or weekly, but you do not.
Oct 30 21:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	no, i do not. i think the weekly thing is unconscionable.
Oct 30 21:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	but that's really besides the point isn't it ?
Oct 30 21:50:49 <BTC-Mining>	Not really.
Oct 30 21:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	how so ?
Oct 30 21:51:56 *	mircea_popescu wonders if everyone else is alseep/sexting/busy not giving a shit or quite the contrary, in awed silence at the sheer genius of the debate unraveling before their very eyes.
Oct 30 21:53:14 <BTC-Mining>	I claim payment period can possibly be more frequent, but not obligated. I want to know why, because of these faster periods (completly unrelated and optional), you feel it's ok to move on and delete all data just as much faster, without any knowledge of what's happening on Nefario's side?
Oct 30 21:53:38 *	mod6 is catching up
Oct 30 21:54:05 <mircea_popescu>	but do you actually claim that objectively the time needed to retrieve the data is in the months rather than minutes scale ?
Oct 30 21:54:15 <BTC-Mining>	No
Oct 30 21:54:23 <mircea_popescu>	ok. so then what is your idea here ?
Oct 30 21:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	that more time could conceivably helpand thus is a right ?
Oct 30 21:55:09 <mircea_popescu>	nefario could in fact have released all the data in question in half the time we took discussing his idiocy so far.
Oct 30 21:55:12 <mircea_popescu>	just in this present bout.
Oct 30 21:55:19 <BTC-Mining>	But he seemed quite concerned of the legalities when he closed. He didn't run away with all the funds. He did take time to start processing. He's probably still concerned.
Oct 30 21:55:46 <mircea_popescu>	so ?!
Oct 30 21:56:17 <BTC-Mining>	So he could be checking further how to minimize his liabilities.
Oct 30 21:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	after the fact ?
Oct 30 21:56:43 <BTC-Mining>	Decide to require AML again for disclosing assets, or anything really.
Oct 30 21:56:53 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, after the fact.
Oct 30 21:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	i still don't see how any of this makes any sense or amounts to an actual challenge
Oct 30 21:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... maybe he decides to give us all candy, in the future. it's possible, why not.
Oct 30 21:57:52 <mircea_popescu>	but that aside : a catastrophe has occured
Oct 30 21:58:11 <mircea_popescu>	even though this was not specifically written out in thecontract, a set interval of time will be allowed for recovery
Oct 30 21:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	after which that's that.
Oct 30 21:58:23 <mircea_popescu>	do you see a problem in principle with this ?
Oct 30 21:59:23 <BTC-Mining>	If you don't know the facts, he claims to have asked the FSA about it long ago but they claimed not to be concerned by anything Bitcoins related. (Probably miscommunication). Trying to go legal, he consulted again and was told to stop or he could be charged.
Oct 30 21:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	you know this as a fact ?
Oct 30 22:00:13 <BTC-Mining>	I'll have to fetch the sources, but it seems likely. Seems to be what GLBSE shareholders claim.
Oct 30 22:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	well does it seem likely or wtf.
Oct 30 22:00:32 <mircea_popescu>	half the glbse shareholders are pretty much lieing scumbags, as it came out.
Oct 30 22:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you were all against mixing fact and fiction.
Oct 30 22:01:59 <BTC-Mining>	Hmm, yes. But fact is, if it's indeed true, he could limit his liabilities by applying regulations after he's been made aware of it, and would certainly get him to delay things a lot while consulting.
Oct 30 22:02:27 <kuzetsa>	mircea_popescu: the glbse flaming and whatnot... don't you have ties to a competing exchange? as such, isn'
Oct 30 22:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	look, i have in fact hired lawyers in this life, i'm not talking out of imagination.
Oct 30 22:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	NEVER have i waited A MONTH for a fucking report.
Oct 30 22:02:38 <kuzetsa>	isn't FUD surrounding GLBSE good for your business?
Oct 30 22:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	maybe a couple of weeks, if it was REALLY involved and complex and needed loads of research
Oct 30 22:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1131 @ 0.00046045 = 0.5208 BTC [-]
Oct 30 22:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00046037 = 12.7522 BTC [-]
Oct 30 22:03:00 <BTC-Mining>	I'm against opinion passing as facts, or misquoting.
Oct 30 22:03:02 <mircea_popescu>	kuzetsa i own the exchange glbse was trying to compete with.
Oct 30 22:03:19 <kuzetsa>	uh huh
Oct 30 22:03:24 <BTC-Mining>	But Nefario seems to only be able to aford some lousy lawyer.
Oct 30 22:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining ok, but let's get back on track here.
Oct 30 22:04:16 <BTC-Mining>	If Nefario is screwing things up or being slow, it wouldn't excuse you from doing just as much in return. Plus it opens you to accusations. You should keep the data for at least more than 2 months is what I am saying.
Oct 30 22:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	well so i said it's kept a month, you want it to be kept two. am i correct in inferring that at least in principle you don't see a problem, and you mostly dispute the actual time interval ?
Oct 30 22:05:42 <BTC-Mining>	No, after the 1st December, you'll have kept it for more than 2 months.
Oct 30 22:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Oct 30 22:06:08 <BTC-Mining>	hmm... 2 months actually
Oct 30 22:06:19 <BTC-Mining>	Since the day GLBSE went down.
Oct 30 22:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	how do we count that ? was it oct 1st ? or with goat ? or with yest when it finally went offline ?
Oct 30 22:07:52 <BTC-Mining>	And yes, I dispute the time interval. Your argument so far was that if payment periods go faster, why not the time allowed to disclose the information before considering it gone for good? But you yourself agreed that the two were unrelated.
Oct 30 22:08:08 <BTC-Mining>	I do not dispute the delisting, nor the need to eventually move on.
Oct 30 22:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	so for clarity, you agree with the principle, but disagree with the interval ?
Oct 30 22:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	kay.
Oct 30 22:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	well... so what's the rationale for your interval ?
Oct 30 22:09:12 <sgornick>	> mircea_popescu wonders if everyone else is alseep/sexting/busy not giving a shit or quite the contrary,
Oct 30 22:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	o hai sgornick
Oct 30 22:09:32 *	sgornick scrolled back, and read forward.  And would like a refund for the past 8 minutes of his life.
Oct 30 22:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	how much is it ?
Oct 30 22:09:48 <sgornick>	about two satoshis.
Oct 30 22:09:56 <mircea_popescu>	address ? :p
Oct 30 22:10:10 <kakobrekla>	hey, thats my fee.
Oct 30 22:10:14 <BTC-Mining>	8/60th of minimum salary in whatever area he is located.
Oct 30 22:10:24 <BTC-Mining>	minimum hourly salary*
Oct 30 22:10:30 <kuzetsa>	;;gpg info sgornick
Oct 30 22:10:30 <gribble>	User 'sgornick', with keyid F64A32C07327B2F8, fingerprint 1619E0F30A0AE945C3A5407EF64A32C07327B2F8, and bitcoin address 1ADZYhYZu1epmsZUAUa2fZ299p7xwVJ46k, registered on Mon Mar  7 00:42:20 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=sgornick . Currently not authenticated.
Oct 30 22:10:39 <kuzetsa>	mircea_popescu: probably that one :P
Oct 30 22:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he wants satoshi pairs sent to special mating addresses where they can multiply, what do i know.
Oct 30 22:11:14 <kuzetsa>	heh
Oct 30 22:12:22 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: "... He didn't run away with all the funds. ..." << um actually you can't quite say this, only 2 of my 3 accounts received btc back
Oct 30 22:12:50 <BTC-Mining>	He didn't run away with >>ALL<< the funds
Oct 30 22:13:09 <smickles>	heh, he did from the perspective of those accounts </troll>
Oct 30 22:13:24 <smickles>	and i put that backward
Oct 30 22:13:31 <smickles>	1 of 3 got btc back
Oct 30 22:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	smickles in the end it seems he paid ~1.3k or so
Oct 30 22:13:42 <BTC-Mining>	So you could expect he actually intends to refund everyone. Wether he can or screw up doing so however, is uncertain, since there's already a screw up.
Oct 30 22:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	originally i was thinking he just paid theymos' funds
Oct 30 22:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining i still don't understand why would he not have issued the assets, if he's gonna do it.
Oct 30 22:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, at first few days cause it might take some time to recombobulate the data
Oct 30 22:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	then cause he was holding theymos hostage for btc
Oct 30 22:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	now ?
Oct 30 22:14:27 <BTC-Mining>	mircea, 1.3k is just what was claimed by people on the forum. Most probably never claimed their payment on my thread, or were even aware of it or willing to disclose how much they had on it.
Oct 30 22:14:33 <smickles>	is there news about the asset info?
Oct 30 22:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	smickles none
Oct 30 22:14:48 <BTC-Mining>	People like to be private around Bitcoins it seems.
Oct 30 22:14:56 <BTC-Mining>	Mircea, the rationale behind the interval is that with how things have been going, it is not clear or obvious that Nefario lost any data or intends not to return it. And being highly unpredictable and uncommunicative since the start, one could expect the information to be released way past the short delay you seem to allow.
Oct 30 22:14:58 <smickles>	what am I going to do with all this btc if i don't get infos
Oct 30 22:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	this is mostly cause i announced that giga.etf goes away on dec 1st if it's not fixed
Oct 30 22:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining yes, but in order to have a deadline you have to have a deadline
Oct 30 22:15:30 <BTC-Mining>	But why one month away?
Oct 30 22:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	so what's your proposed deadline and why ?
Oct 30 22:15:39 <mircea_popescu>	well, i honestly went 10x dividend periods
Oct 30 22:15:46 <mircea_popescu>	seemed to me the most reasonable approach.
Oct 30 22:16:08 <smickles>	yeah, what's the reasonable amount of time that I have to secure and maintain this btc?
Oct 30 22:16:17 <smickles>	it's not like i'm getting paid to do it
Oct 30 22:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's a quite important problem.
Oct 30 22:16:28 <mircea_popescu>	which is why i think this discussion matters.
Oct 30 22:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, FOREVER is off the table. now, how long is reasonable ?
Oct 30 22:16:54 <sgornick>	Wait, did the giga.ETF manager obtain the gigamining shares through GLBSE, or direct from gigamiing?
Oct 30 22:16:55 <smickles>	is there any legal position to be informed by?
Oct 30 22:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	smickles not really.
Oct 30 22:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick i originally had them directly, but then all pre-ipo holdings were transformed into glbse shares
Oct 30 22:17:34 <BTC-Mining>	I'd say at least 6 months without any news or sight whatsoever of Nefario. Considering it's assets information, it's still very short, but at least more appropriate.
Oct 30 22:17:39 <smickles>	bad move, in hind sight mircea_popescu
Oct 30 22:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i didn't want to do it, i asked at the time to keep it private, but eventually didn't want to cause trouble.
Oct 30 22:18:02 <smickles>	6 months and then what BTC-Mining ?
Oct 30 22:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	after all, "fud" it was called, right ?
Oct 30 22:18:24 <smickles>	fud, lovely
Oct 30 22:18:29 <BTC-Mining>	He'll delete all data regarding what is owed.
Oct 30 22:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	6 months "without sight" ? what if the bloke pulls a strateman, drops by every season on btctalk to post a trollface ?
Oct 30 22:18:46 <smickles>	thing is, Uncertainty and Doubt are good things
Oct 30 22:18:51 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining i can't delete "all data" man. the signed stats will forever exist.
Oct 30 22:19:01 <BTC-Mining>	Aye
Oct 30 22:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	we're not talking glbse here.
Oct 30 22:19:24 <mircea_popescu>	anyone can keep the stat saying "x F.GIGA" for as long as they think it's worth it.
Oct 30 22:19:36 <BTC-Mining>	But you won't keep your side of the data or honor anything, am I right?
Oct 30 22:19:43 <BTC-Mining>	or will you?
Oct 30 22:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	it won't show in your stats anymore.
Oct 30 22:20:17 <mircea_popescu>	it will still exist in my backups, obviouysly
Oct 30 22:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	(as well as in your backups, if you're downloading the mpex backups with any frequency)
Oct 30 22:20:42 <BTC-Mining>	So you're actually going to keep the data?
Oct 30 22:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	depends what that means ;/
Oct 30 22:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	it will not be in the active db.
Oct 30 22:21:46 <BTC-Mining>	Will you honor the most recent data available as of who owns what of the ETF should the information be disclosed and you get access to the funds received through it?
Oct 30 22:21:56 <BTC-Mining>	I guess would be were I'm getting at.
Oct 30 22:22:16 <smickles>	30 years later?
Oct 30 22:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly.
Oct 30 22:22:20 <smickles>	;P
Oct 30 22:22:31 <BTC-Mining>	Yes.
Oct 30 22:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Oct 30 22:22:53 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: you expect the data to be kept for 30 years?
Oct 30 22:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	didn't you just say above you understand there will have to be some limit ?!
Oct 30 22:23:43 <BTC-Mining>	I wasn't answering to smickles... in hindsight, I was answering the "lol, srsly", but it was probably destined to smickles.
Oct 30 22:24:16 <smickles>	http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/moneymatters/a/unclaimedabout.htm
Oct 30 22:24:27 <mircea_popescu>	no but in general, people will have to start reading up on write-offs.
Oct 30 22:24:37 <BTC-Mining>	I don't expect 30 years. I'm just asking, suppose the data is released in the next few months, would you honor the most recent information?
Oct 30 22:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	this notion that they hang on the hope of pirate repaying 30 years later...
Oct 30 22:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	this is cargo cult not finance.
Oct 30 22:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	if those next few months are november, then absolutely.
Oct 30 22:25:18 <BTC-Mining>	But pirate was an obvious ponzi, still is, and he just disappeared suddenly one day and stopped paying people.
Oct 30 22:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	no he didn't
Oct 30 22:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	he kept pulling people's chains FOR MONTHS
Oct 30 22:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	and it was "an obvious ponzi" pretty much to three people iirc.
Oct 30 22:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	but we digress
Oct 30 22:26:25 <BTC-Mining>	Sorry. The business stopped paying suddenly one day.
Oct 30 22:26:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/nq508ed4f8.jpg this is aptly named "ocean city"
Oct 30 22:27:32 <BTC-Mining>	All I'm saying is, 1 month is not reasonable delays.
Oct 30 22:27:37 <mircea_popescu>	2.
Oct 30 22:27:49 <thestringpuller>	smickles: ;;ident
Oct 30 22:28:14 <BTC-Mining>	1 month before delisting, 6 before deleting the data you hold, would be the minimum I find acceptable.
Oct 30 22:28:18 <smickles>	;;ident
Oct 30 22:28:19 <gribble>	You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
Oct 30 22:28:21 <smickles>	;;ident thestringpuller
Oct 30 22:28:22 <gribble>	Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
Oct 30 22:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8769 @ 0.00045982 = 4.0322 BTC [-]
Oct 30 22:28:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00046489 = 0.1395 BTC [+]
Oct 30 22:28:26 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining based on what criteria ?
Oct 30 22:28:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.0004657 = 2.5148 BTC [+]
Oct 30 22:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11631 @ 0.00046613 = 5.4216 BTC [+]
Oct 30 22:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	just pulled some numbers ?
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Oct 30 22:30:26 <BTC-Mining>	Yes it's an opinion. Based on the fact Nefario has been unreliable and he doesn't have an history of completing task this fast. So I find it unreasonable to give a delay of 1 month.
Oct 30 22:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	man, but this subject can'tbe decided based on nefario. nefario is below a negligible quantity.
Oct 30 22:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	we need something workable in principle
Oct 30 22:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	you think we'll just change the terms based on each low-life that happens to blow this way ?
Oct 30 22:31:58 <BTC-Mining>	But there's none, because only Nefario can release the data. And he's unreliable.
Oct 30 22:32:14 <smickles>	I'm not going to base my obligation on the shortcomming of an asshat
Oct 30 22:32:23 <BTC-Mining>	Even if you're not at fault, professionalism would recommend you allow a long delay to account for that.
Oct 30 22:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	smickles in any event, i don't think escheat would be the controlling doctrine. more like treasure trove or somesuch
Oct 30 22:32:58 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: from what i'm reading, it seems that a resonable period of time may be between 1 and 3 years
Oct 30 22:33:00 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining i don't dispute, a long delay. why's 2 months not a long delay tho.
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Oct 30 22:35:30 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: what about considering it lost
Oct 30 22:35:40 <BTC-Mining>	Because any individual, especially when dealing with them personnally, can often report to later for months to a few years before resolving the dispute or admitting he can't. And Nefario admitted he wouldn't accept any decision by GLBSE shareholder and would act however he wished to protect himself.
Oct 30 22:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	smickles needs more words
Oct 30 22:36:16 <BTC-Mining>	He made it obvious he would have priority, so long delays might be expected.
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Oct 30 22:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	you keep refering to nefario as if he's relevant. i don't see why he is relevant at all.
Oct 30 22:37:03 <BTC-Mining>	If he had never sent out so many payment and just stopped business like Pirate did and just stayed around, I would not have minded the 1 month delay.
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Oct 30 22:37:38 <BTC-Mining>	I already stated he's relevant because he's the only one holding the assets information and able to disclose it.
Oct 30 22:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	but the only way to quash this would be to show that a two month delay is not acceptable in principle.
Oct 30 22:38:36 <smickles>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_possession would be an interesting way to handle it
Oct 30 22:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	showing that it's not convenient in this particular case isn't much.
Oct 30 22:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	smickles afaik that's always been limited to real property.
Oct 30 22:39:13 <smickles>	yeah
Oct 30 22:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	there's no adverse posession of chattels
Oct 30 22:39:46 <BTC-Mining>	Delays for data recovery can never be determined exactly. I don't see why it would require to be proven to be acceptable or not.
Oct 30 22:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, BTC-Mining : i received recently a request from neustar to prove that indeed i am entitled to hold a .us domain
Oct 30 22:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	the time interval offered was 10 days.
Oct 30 22:40:48 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, so?
Oct 30 22:41:11 <smickles>	oh shit
Oct 30 22:41:16 <smickles>	involuntary bailee
Oct 30 22:41:18 <smickles>	An exception to all the above is the case of an involuntary bailee, one who by not intentional acts is made a bailee. For example, if one is given a stock certificate but it turns out to be the wrong certificate (intended for someone else), he is an unintentional bailee, he has made no intentional act to become a bailee. He is therefore entitled to divest himself of the certificate regardless of a duty of care, so long as he does no malicious or 
Oct 30 22:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ofcourse. but we're trying to avoid this.
Oct 30 22:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	there's no dispute that in law i can drop the entire thing on oct the 5th.
Oct 30 22:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	you too, and anyone else involved.
Oct 30 22:42:07 <BTC-Mining>	Why?
Oct 30 22:42:24 <BTC-Mining>	And does that automatically make that delay appropriate for everything? (the 10 days thing)
Oct 30 22:42:24 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: seems to be statutory in common law
Oct 30 22:42:26 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining because you can't force somebody to hold something for you at their expense ?
Oct 30 22:42:31 <smickles>	with no precedent overriding it
Oct 30 22:43:27 <BTC-Mining>	But that's the thing, you were not forced to held these for us and would gain a huge financial benefit if the information is disclosed after you deleted the data.
Oct 30 22:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	what benefit is that ?
Oct 30 22:43:49 <BTC-Mining>	You're not an unintentional bailee.
Oct 30 22:44:33 <BTC-Mining>	Financial benefit? You are now in possession of ~1000 Gigamining bonds with no data of who held the ETF or intention to honor it.
Oct 30 22:44:43 <mircea_popescu>	nope ?
Oct 30 22:45:00 <BTC-Mining>	How so?
Oct 30 22:45:15 <mircea_popescu>	i have (indirect) claims on about 1k (more like 1.1 iirc) of gigaminign shares.
Oct 30 22:45:55 <BTC-Mining>	Aye, so?
Oct 30 22:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	if i had 1k bonds this discussion wouldn't exist, i'd be paying dividends on them lol.
Oct 30 22:46:37 <BTC-Mining>	You don't have them now, no... That's not what I said either.
Oct 30 22:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	 You are now in possession of ~1000 Gigamining bonds <<
Oct 30 22:47:09 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway.
Oct 30 22:47:24 <BTC-Mining>	I said if information was released after December 1st, you'd now be in possession of those bonds.
Oct 30 22:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	o i see
Oct 30 22:48:14 <BTC-Mining>	Because you would have deleted all data with no intent to further honor it, it stands as a financial gain. Gigavps keeps track of what is due and would start paying out all missed payments.
Oct 30 22:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	nah, im not going to realise that gain.
Oct 30 22:48:43 <BTC-Mining>	No, but that won't be verifiable.
Oct 30 22:50:58 <smickles>	not forced to hold? i giving it all back and nefario stopped that and sent the btc back to me :/
Oct 30 22:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	i guess if i end up with a windfall it'll just make some worthy cause rich.
Oct 30 22:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder who should get it this time, pdpc got it last time...
Oct 30 22:52:46 <BTC-Mining>	And since you were not forced to hold them for the ETF, I think that voids your right to be entitled to divest yourself of the certificate either.
Oct 30 22:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Oct 30 22:53:35 <BTC-Mining>	What smickles proposed about involuntary bailee.
Oct 30 22:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	wait a second.
Oct 30 22:54:25 <smickles>	i dunno that much about involuntary bailee, i'm just searching for any sort of similar thing to what's going on here
Oct 30 22:54:51 <mircea_popescu>	so, i made thing A. thing A is no longer. you want me to be the holder of substitute-thing B until such a time that you're satisfied.
Oct 30 22:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	this qualifies just fine.
Oct 30 22:55:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00045984 = 2.2072 BTC [-]
Oct 30 22:55:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00045901 = 1.1934 BTC [-]
Oct 30 22:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00045833 = 5.1791 BTC [-]
Oct 30 22:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16757 @ 0.00045799 = 7.6745 BTC [-]
Oct 30 22:55:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12368 @ 0.00045794 = 5.6638 BTC [-]
Oct 30 22:59:26 <BTC-Mining>	You're not even divesting from the Gigamining shares, you're destroying your own ETF, issued by you. Divesting requires departing yourself of the asset. But if information is disclosed, you will be in their possession. What you are destroying are the claims to them, which you are:
Oct 30 22:59:28 <BTC-Mining>	1. Neither the holder
Oct 30 22:59:39 <BTC-Mining>	2. Neither the involuntary holder
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Oct 30 23:00:08 <BTC-Mining>	You own rights to Gigamining bonds (on your own will). I own claims to them.
Oct 30 23:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	let's see the whole line here.
Oct 30 23:00:50 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: involuntary bailee seems to say that if someone is in possesion of something that isn't theirs, and they came by this possesion unintintionally, then they are not responsible to the real owner for what happens to it
Oct 30 23:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	1. giga made a mining thing ; 2. glbse listed the mining thing ; 3. i own shares in the glbse mining thing ; 4 i made a mpex thing ; 5 you own shares in the mpex thing.
Oct 30 23:01:31 <mircea_popescu>	this about right so far ?
Oct 30 23:01:53 <BTC-Mining>	He didn't get the shares unintentionally. He bought them to then sell fractional claims to them.
Oct 30 23:02:11 <smickles>	so the shares are his anyway then
Oct 30 23:02:26 <smickles>	the fractional claim is the question?
Oct 30 23:02:38 <BTC-Mining>	He's not an unintentional holder is what I'm saying.
Oct 30 23:02:42 <smickles>	it's force majeure
Oct 30 23:03:02 <smickles>	overwhelming force has voided the f.giga contract
Oct 30 23:03:16 <smickles>	voided or posponed i guess
Oct 30 23:03:32 <BTC-Mining>	No
Oct 30 23:04:04 <smickles>	how is it not?
Oct 30 23:04:12 <mircea_popescu>	no but srsly, let us get to the bottom of this, ok ?
Oct 30 23:04:20 <BTC-Mining>	He has no such clauses or anything reserving himself the right to arbitrarily and unilaterally void the claims he sold himself.
Oct 30 23:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining you dispute the scheme laid out above ?
Oct 30 23:04:32 <BTC-Mining>	I do not.
Oct 30 23:04:37 <mircea_popescu>	ok.
Oct 30 23:04:45 <mircea_popescu>	now, in the event 2 dissapears,
Oct 30 23:04:52 <BTC-Mining>	Except for part 3
Oct 30 23:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	well ?
Oct 30 23:05:10 <BTC-Mining>	You own shares in the mining thing, not the glbse mining thing.
Oct 30 23:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	nope, i own shares in the glbse miningthing
Oct 30 23:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	ie, GIGAMINING shares
Oct 30 23:06:00 <BTC-Mining>	You own Gigamining shares, issued and traded on GLBSE, but not "GLBSE's mining thing"
Oct 30 23:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	again, if i had off-glbse private bonds this entire discussion would be moot.
Oct 30 23:06:16 <BTC-Mining>	Indeed...
Oct 30 23:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	well, let it be on record that what i mean by "GLBSE's mining thing" is Gigamining shares, issued and traded on GLBSE
Oct 30 23:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	moving right along.
Oct 30 23:06:31 <BTC-Mining>	Perfect then
Oct 30 23:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	once 2 goes away, you propose that it is my obligation to create a 2' vehicle to bridge this gap.
Oct 30 23:06:57 <mircea_popescu>	i might extend something like this as a courtesy, and for a limited time
Oct 30 23:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	in law i'm perfectly allowed to not do it at all (hence the discussion of involuntary bailee, you purport to make me the depositor of a 2' device which i never should have to hold)
Oct 30 23:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	but even if i forfeit this entitlement, i can only do it in a time-limited way
Oct 30 23:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	i can't accept eternal burden of any-and-all 2'
Oct 30 23:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	that could or may be conceived.
Oct 30 23:08:35 <smickles>	this is a facinating issue to me :)
Oct 30 23:08:55 <mircea_popescu>	it is a pretty important point for btc in general, which is why i'm taking the time
Oct 30 23:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	conveniently BTC-Mining is taking the other side, i'm not sure i'd prefer anyone else for it.
Oct 30 23:09:57 <BTC-Mining>	You are not an unvoluntary bailee. You received the assets of your own will and held them of your own will for the purpose of selling claims to it. You never received them against your will. In fact, they're currently TAKEN AWAY from you against your own will. Not forced upon you.
Oct 30 23:10:03 <mircea_popescu>	yes, the assets.
Oct 30 23:10:07 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: didn't you claim to have bought a bunch of f.giga when glbse went down?
Oct 30 23:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	but not some-other-thing-which-aren't-the-assets.
Oct 30 23:10:48 <BTC-Mining>	How are you the unvoluntary bailee of those other things?
Oct 30 23:11:04 <smickles>	wait, do we really consider having stuff associated with your glbse account ownership? (maybe off topic)
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Oct 30 23:11:30 <BTC-Mining>	Aka, the giga.etf
Oct 30 23:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining because the vehicle for my ownership was the glbse share
Oct 30 23:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	which now is no more.
Oct 30 23:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	it has in practice been replaced by a vague sort of claim thing.
Oct 30 23:12:29 <BTC-Mining>	The claims were sold to me. I'm the current holder. You are not. You are the issuer. You cannot be the unvoluntary bailee of your own issue.
Oct 30 23:12:40 <smickles>	alology:
Oct 30 23:13:05 <smickles>	mircea_popescu leased an office in a building, the building is taken out by a tornado
Oct 30 23:13:19 <smickles>	(leased to someone else)
Oct 30 23:13:48 <smickles>	is mircea_popescu still responsible to provide an office to that person?
Oct 30 23:14:10 <smickles>	assumes there was not a force majeure clause in the lease
Oct 30 23:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	smickles no, it's more complicated. person A leases a building to person B. person B leases office space to C. person A is arrested and the building confiscated. C demands from B that B ensures C gets the office space at a future time if the building is returned to A.
Oct 30 23:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	this makes B the involuntary bailee of C's claim, because B never leased to C any such thing as "future claims to the office space conditional on A's performance in court"
Oct 30 23:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	while C may be entitled to that claim, it's really not much of B's business.
Oct 30 23:15:54 <smickles>	hmm
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Oct 30 23:16:55 <BTC-Mining>	No. B indeed (re)leased office space to C.
Oct 30 23:18:05 <BTC-Mining>	To be the involuntary bailee, you'd have to be holding the claim from C to A. Where you could throw out the claim or quite simply give it to it's actual beneficiary.
Oct 30 23:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining there's no limitation that you can only be ib if you can divest in a manner convenient to all partsi nvolved
Oct 30 23:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	quite the contrary.
Oct 30 23:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, even the example as given is simplified, because it gonflates giga and glbse into A.
Oct 30 23:19:31 <BTC-Mining>	Yes. Indeed.
Oct 30 23:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	and at any rate the whole involuntary bailee point is mostly academic, it just rehashes the obvious "tough tits" line
Oct 30 23:20:05 <mircea_popescu>	we only got into that cause smickles brought it up, but otherwise, the point is more along the lines of,
Oct 30 23:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	some time limit will have to be enforced. why this rather than that ?
Oct 30 23:20:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00045794 = 5.0373 BTC [-]
Oct 30 23:20:59 <BTC-Mining>	Because it's perfectably expectable for information to be released in more than a month, while it is not in 10 years without any news.
Oct 30 23:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	in principle the same could be said of 10 years vs 1000 years.
Oct 30 23:21:34 <BTC-Mining>	Why?
Oct 30 23:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	cause it's purely arbitrary. yes, the chances to get something decrease with time. so, if nothing happens in one week, better wait a month.
Oct 30 23:22:11 <mircea_popescu>	if nothing happens in am onth, better wait two. if nothing happens in two better wait six
Oct 30 23:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Oct 30 23:22:33 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: lets do this logically, you made the first positive claim right?
Oct 30 23:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	still doesn't indicate why six months is more reasonable than six weeks
Oct 30 23:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what i indicated was 10 dividend periods.
Oct 30 23:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	i don't claim it's perfect or anything, should carry the day
Oct 30 23:22:58 <smickles>	then BTC-Mining contested, right
Oct 30 23:23:02 <mircea_popescu>	i just didn't hear anything more reasonable.
Oct 30 23:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	smickles well we agreed on principle but not on the actual interval so far.
Oct 30 23:23:24 <smickles>	so how do you justify 10 difidend periods?
Oct 30 23:23:34 <BTC-Mining>	In 10 years, odds of data remaining gets slight, especially as the storage on which the data was is probably destroyed and unless some guy (who never gave news or disclosed this date), kept moving it to new storage as time went by, the data would be lost. Which is expectable and probable. Why would the guy keep to back it up if he's not disclosing it?
Oct 30 23:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	smickles degree of magnitute more than the smallest contractual breach
Oct 30 23:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining yes, they will be slight, by today's measure. cause today the scent is still fresh. but in 9 years it will seem reasonable to wait 100 rather than 10.
Oct 30 23:24:25 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: do you contest this 'order of magnitude' argument?
Oct 30 23:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	why'd he have to contest it
Oct 30 23:24:51 <smickles>	logic
Oct 30 23:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	that's kinda absurd, we'll never be done if we go that way
Oct 30 23:24:58 <BTC-Mining>	No. Because it has to be set as a hard limit.
Oct 30 23:25:01 <mircea_popescu>	we just contest ad infinitum
Oct 30 23:25:07 <BTC-Mining>	But by today's standard.
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Oct 30 23:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	more constructively, do you have something better than that, i'd want to know
Oct 30 23:25:32 <BTC-Mining>	Not by reviewing them later as: "Well we went on waiting 10 years, why not 100?"
Oct 30 23:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining but that's exactly what we're doing today.
Oct 30 23:25:49 <BTC-Mining>	And 1 month does not seems appropriate.
Oct 30 23:25:55 <BTC-Mining>	I'm contesting that.
Oct 30 23:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	we waited a month, and you are saying "well we should wait six cause this guy is slow"
Oct 30 23:25:56 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you'd only do it back to first principles, not ad infinitum
Oct 30 23:26:12 <smickles>	and if you disagree on first principles, one of you is a turnip
Oct 30 23:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 30 23:26:21 <BTC-Mining>	I'm not contesting it 1 month after. I'm contesting the fact you chose 1 month from day 1.
Oct 30 23:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining sorry what ?
Oct 30 23:27:16 <BTC-Mining>	"[23:25] <mircea_popescu> we waited a month, and you are saying "well we should wait six cause this guy is slow""
Oct 30 23:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 30 23:27:26 <BTC-Mining>	We didn't wait a month, that's the thing.
Oct 30 23:27:27 <copumpkin>	mod6: http://www.businessinsider.com/top-25-richest-hedge-funds-2012-1
Oct 30 23:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	what did we do ?
Oct 30 23:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin o wow, tyggr ?!
Oct 30 23:28:11 <copumpkin>	lol
Oct 30 23:28:13 <BTC-Mining>	GLBSE.com went offline. You decided to, right now, allow 1 month.
Oct 30 23:28:20 <copumpkin>	little did you know that Chaang-Noi was a hedge fund manager
Oct 30 23:28:25 <BTC-Mining>	I'm contesting that this decision is appropriate for right now.
Oct 30 23:28:52 <BTC-Mining>	And not contesting afterward saying we should wait more.
Oct 30 23:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	but see, glbse.com going offline is really the absolute last signal of dissapearance.
Oct 30 23:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	nefario went silent, before this. their board broke apart.
Oct 30 23:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	the guy got a scammer tag for chrissakes
Oct 30 23:29:16 <BTC-Mining>	I would have no problem accepting it if I had agreed the delay was reasonable, and waited the whole of that delay.
Oct 30 23:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	this was the last ditch of credibility left.
Oct 30 23:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	what's left now ?
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Oct 30 23:30:26 <BTC-Mining>	He got a scammer tag because Theymos was a shareholder and got screwed in this because Nefario doesn't recognize their decisive power because he claims he can't honor requests that would make him break the law.
Oct 30 23:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	man, forget the because. look at things objectively.
Oct 30 23:30:48 <BTC-Mining>	I does not prevents him from disclosing the information.
Oct 30 23:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	is the guy here defending himself ? no, he's not. is the company still standing ? no, it was dissolved (retroactively).
Oct 30 23:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	is his reputation in good standing ? no, it's not.
Oct 30 23:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	is the website online ? neither.
Oct 30 23:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	what is left to hang hope on ?
Oct 30 23:32:00 <BTC-Mining>	Eh, I thought so too. 1 month is just a token period. You'd erase the data right away if it wouldn't raise protest. You already consider it gone.
Oct 30 23:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't erase the data right away on general principle.
Oct 30 23:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	and afaik at least one glbse failure was already resolved, without protest for  that matter.
Oct 30 23:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin paulson in 2nd place, that must have gone over well
Oct 30 23:34:06 <BTC-Mining>	So why not have a more reasonable delay, on general principal. Balances have been partially paid out. Nefario communicated with the shareholder his intent to not act upon their vote if it was not lawful to do so.
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Oct 30 23:34:54 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: cause he fucked up so badly? :P
Oct 30 23:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining the sticking point is  the reasonable part of more reasonable.
Oct 30 23:35:09 <copumpkin>	oh well, he's rich, doesn't care
Oct 30 23:35:14 <BTC-Mining>	You're treating it like every other Bitcoin scam with the equivalent delays before declaring it lost.
Oct 30 23:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin o he cares.
Oct 30 23:35:28 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: monopoly?
Oct 30 23:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	nah im about to call it a night soon
Oct 30 23:35:50 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining ask copumpkin, i was pushing for pirate write-offs in august.
Oct 30 23:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	not that anyone listened then or anything.
Oct 30 23:36:01 <copumpkin>	oh mircea_popescu was pushing!
Oct 30 23:36:12 <copumpkin>	oh well :)
Oct 30 23:36:13 <mircea_popescu>	people seem more religious than business-oriented in btc.
Oct 30 23:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	teh saviour shall come sort of outlook
Oct 30 23:36:31 <copumpkin>	I wonder what he's doing with all the money
Oct 30 23:36:35 <copumpkin>	not that he got any out of me
Oct 30 23:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	messiah ?
Oct 30 23:36:39 <BTC-Mining>	So was I. I could almost have expected to write it off almost right away.
Oct 30 23:36:53 <BTC-Mining>	But to my surprise, balances actually started to be paid.
Oct 30 23:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	you mean pirate ?!
Oct 30 23:37:10 <BTC-Mining>	No, GLBSE.
Oct 30 23:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	o you mean enfario ya
Oct 30 23:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	yes man, which is why we weren't having this conversation on the 15th
Oct 30 23:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	but i stil lfail to see how the whole month of november is an unreasonable allowance to fucking pull some fields from a db and send them to peopkle
Oct 30 23:38:18 <BTC-Mining>	So on that account, I think delays should be set as such to allow the benefit of doubt that Nefario intends to repay.
Oct 30 23:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	i thought they are ;/
Oct 30 23:38:49 <BTC-Mining>	Because Nefario DOES NOT WANT to simply pull the database's fields and send that.
Oct 30 23:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	for instance patrickharnett is getting axed tomorrow on the dot.
Oct 30 23:39:00 <mircea_popescu>	o, he doesn't want to does he ?
Oct 30 23:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	and you figure this matters ?
Oct 30 23:39:22 <BTC-Mining>	Yes.
Oct 30 23:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	well, i don't. why do i care what someone wants ?
Oct 30 23:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	what is this, college ?
Oct 30 23:40:14 *	copumpkin pulls out the keg of beer and the funnel
Oct 30 23:40:23 *	copumpkin holds mircea_popescu upside-down
Oct 30 23:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 30 23:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	you would, too.
Oct 30 23:40:39 <copumpkin>	nah, I actually didn't join a frat in college
Oct 30 23:40:44 <copumpkin>	thought all that drinking was kind of stupid
Oct 30 23:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	it sure is.
Oct 30 23:40:56 <copumpkin>	I don't mind moderate amounts of it, but doing it for its own sake is silly
Oct 30 23:40:56 <BTC-Mining>	You're unilaterally taking a decision to void claims because Nefario does not release information fast enough for you, regardless of it it will be released or not.
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Oct 30 23:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining yes, that's the principle of the thing. when someone says they do something and then they don't do it, they get some time before being cut off
Oct 30 23:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	regardless if they "will" do it or not.
Oct 30 23:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	foreclosure works the same exact way, for instance.
Oct 30 23:42:53 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, but the delays should be set accordingly to the expected time it will take them to do so, and you usually add an extra on that in case.
Oct 30 23:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	the expected time to pull data from db is 5 minutes.
Oct 30 23:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	1 + 1 months > 5 minutes
Oct 30 23:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	problem ?
Oct 30 23:44:08 <BTC-Mining>	That's the thing. You'd be disregarding all possible laws Nefario might want to comply to by selecting that 5 minute delay.
Oct 30 23:44:20 <mircea_popescu>	that 5 minute delay is how long it takes to do it.
Oct 30 23:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	you know, like if you don't make the mortgage payments cause your cat was sick
Oct 30 23:44:35 <mircea_popescu>	the bank would still fuck you.
Oct 30 23:45:06 <BTC-Mining>	It's how long it takes to retrieve it from the database. Not how long it takes to disclose it for some paranoid fuck who just started consulting a lawyer.
Oct 30 23:45:22 <BTC-Mining>	And now wants to close it legally.
Oct 30 23:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	dude... there's no doctrine of "how long it takes some mentally retarded guy to pay the bill"
Oct 30 23:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	it's how long the thing takes, not how long the thing takes nefario.
Oct 30 23:45:55 <smickles>	03:42 < BTC-Mining> Yes, but the delays should be set accordingly to the expected time it will take them to do so, and you usually add an  extra on that in case. << the expecte time for him to release the shareholder info should've been about a week
Oct 30 23:46:19 <copumpkin>	if he's bound by laws, he can tell us what those laws are, at least
Oct 30 23:46:26 <copumpkin>	you can't cite unknowable lawyerspeak
Oct 30 23:46:29 <copumpkin>	as an excuse
Oct 30 23:46:40 <copumpkin>	and it can't just be "the law"
Oct 30 23:46:48 <copumpkin>	since that just looks like shitty excuses for not getting your shit done
Oct 30 23:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin fwiw, i contacted his theoretical lawyer about two weeks ago.
Oct 30 23:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	no reply.
Oct 30 23:47:01 <smickles>	copumpkin: but it's santa cLAWs
Oct 30 23:47:06 <copumpkin>	lol
Oct 30 23:47:12 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: sounds legit
Oct 30 23:47:19 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... all this isn't for lack of trying
Oct 30 23:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00045797 = 12.8232 BTC [+]
Oct 30 23:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17632 @ 0.00045794 = 8.0744 BTC [-]
Oct 30 23:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4668 @ 0.00045764 = 2.1363 BTC [-]
Oct 30 23:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	it's for lack of absolutely any reasonable alternative.
Oct 30 23:47:31 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: reminds me of this email I got this morning: http://snapplr.com/rv62
Oct 30 23:47:38 <BTC-Mining>	The expected time it will take, not in as fast you could do it, but how fast it could be expected to be done according to how it's been said it's going to be done.
Oct 30 23:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	dear, sounds legit.
Oct 30 23:47:59 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: omg, that's exactly what I said
Oct 30 23:48:06 <copumpkin>	great minds
Oct 30 23:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining no such license eh. for one, how it was said it was going to be done is "instant". check out the guy's presentations at his nonference
Oct 30 23:49:00 <BTC-Mining>	That's not what he claimed when closing GLBSE.
Oct 30 23:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	at any rate find me some place nefario says "and btw, if glbse goes down i will take ~6 months to release infos" on or around april 11, 2012
Oct 30 23:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	dude, what he claimed in october has no bearing on some instrument made in april does it.
Oct 30 23:49:49 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: april 1, 2012
Oct 30 23:49:54 <BTC-Mining>	Nowhere does he states how much time he will take to do it. Just that he's suddenly very concerned by a few regulations.
Oct 30 23:49:56 <smickles>	april fools day
Oct 30 23:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	twas 11
Oct 30 23:50:13 <smickles>	@.@
Oct 30 23:50:27 <smickles>	i'm sure it's april fools day even if it was the 11th
Oct 30 23:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 30 23:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining why do you think it matters what nefario said after the giga.etf thing was made ?
Oct 30 23:51:22 <BTC-Mining>	Because he has the damn information to release and you have the claims to the shares I have claims to.
Oct 30 23:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	so listen, if i run a payday loan service, and i lend some guy 50 bucks for a week
Oct 30 23:51:38 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: have you asked gigga if he'll honor your shares for the etf?
Oct 30 23:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	and his employer announces that next salary will be paid in 2050
Oct 30 23:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	i have to extend my loan to 2050 ?
Oct 30 23:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i won't ask such a thing, it's absurd.
Oct 30 23:52:11 <BTC-Mining>	No. Because that's 40 years. It's unreasonable.
Oct 30 23:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	2015 ?
Oct 30 23:52:45 <BTC-Mining>	I'd accept 6 month as a minimum.
Oct 30 23:52:46 <smickles>	and without a declared timeframe from nefario, i'm starting to think that we can't reasonably expect to get the data in a reasonable amount of time
Oct 30 23:52:51 <mircea_popescu>	ahah you and your 6  months
Oct 30 23:53:01 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't accept one day. a week's a week. fuck you, pay me.
Oct 30 23:53:11 <BTC-Mining>	Let me try to explain it from my point of view.
Oct 30 23:53:29 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: go to missouri eviction legal with one day of default
Oct 30 23:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	smickles if he had the common courtesy to say you know, on oct 1, we are closed, i expect to pay everyone by the end of this week and release data by the end of the month cause so and so problems
Oct 30 23:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	and then BLEW both dates
Oct 30 23:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	i'd still be waiting for him.
Oct 30 23:55:34 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but releasing the data by the end of the month is unreasonably long, unless he could point to a specific detail (law) which prevented him from doing so in that time frame
Oct 30 23:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	smickles but at least it'd be you know... he said by today, it's not done yet... well let's give it a little and see
Oct 30 23:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be... something.
Oct 30 23:56:26 <smickles>	i have no patients for giving people a little more time
Oct 30 23:56:36 <smickles>	they take my spelling away from me
Oct 30 23:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	haha.
Oct 30 23:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	btw copumpkin have you noticed the "refards" signature in that email ?
Oct 30 23:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	originally i read "retards"
Oct 30 23:57:01 <copumpkin>	yeah, there are lots of typos
Oct 30 23:57:01 <copumpkin>	lol
Oct 30 23:57:07 <copumpkin>	I didn't see that
Oct 30 23:57:27 <BTC-Mining>	What that 1 month tells me is because Nefario completly fucked up, although you know about it and although you know he further screwed on the 16th and you know he's never been quite good at PR, because it could be done in 5 minutes by you (which you know won't happen) or that he might never disclose it (again, a possibility, not an absolute), you can't be assed to extend the courtesy
Oct 30 23:57:27 <BTC-Mining>	of not pressing "delete" on all the data for the ETF's for your customers' sake.
Oct 30 23:58:33 <mircea_popescu>	this is such complete misrepresentation.
Oct 30 23:58:47 <mircea_popescu>	since for instance i announced the exact time, what's to keep customers from just saving a stat ?
Oct 30 23:59:03 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: i've lost too high a % of my net worth by extending people courtesies to continue the practice
Oct 30 23:59:36 <BTC-Mining>	You said YOURSELF you won't honor the statements if the information is released after December 1st.
Oct 30 23:59:40 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> since for instance i announced the exact time, what's to keep customers from just saving a stat ?
Oct 30 23:59:43 <smickles>	+
Oct 30 23:59:48 <BTC-Mining>	What good would prior notice and saving the statement do?
Oct 31 00:00:10 <smickles>	doesn't that imply he'll honor them before dec 1?
Oct 31 00:00:22 <smickles>	just STAT b/f dec 1
Oct 31 00:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining it at the very least changes the customer's position not one bit.
Oct 31 00:00:43 <smickles>	save it, send it off to amazon glacier
Oct 31 00:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	you were talking about "data being deleted". a customer wanting to push a claim would be in no worse position today, on the 5th of december 2012 or 2015
Oct 31 00:01:45 <BTC-Mining>	So?
Oct 31 00:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	so at the very least under the guise of protecting your interest you're trying to tell me how to sort my files lol
Oct 31 00:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	which is hardly something you should be involved in ?!
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Oct 31 00:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	there's two different things here, do you realise this ? your ability to prove that you owed X shares of Y is never going away. that's why you get stats.
Oct 31 00:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	(and that's why the mpex system is so good, incidentally)
Oct 31 00:05:13 <BTC-Mining>	It WOULD be good if you didn't keep any profit from that decision from GIGAMINING shares and donated it to a charitable cause.
Oct 31 00:05:44 <BTC-Mining>	It WOULD be good if you told Gigavps you were writing them off and we could give him those signed statements
Oct 31 00:05:53 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: i bet, that presenting a stat after info is released would get your benefit back
Oct 31 00:06:09 <smickles>	.2btc BTC-Mining ?
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Oct 31 00:06:16 <smickles>	even odds?
Oct 31 00:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	well or alternatively he could "sue" me on injust enrichment or w/e
Oct 31 00:06:30 <smickles>	1:2?
Oct 31 00:06:39 <BTC-Mining>	No, Mircea clearly stated it would not give my benefit back.
Oct 31 00:07:01 <BTC-Mining>	After December 1st, if assets information is released, he won't honor any statements.
Oct 31 00:07:13 <BTC-Mining>	He'll just donate the proceeds.
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Oct 31 00:07:18 <smickles>	i took that to mean a stat made after dec 1
Oct 31 00:07:38 <smickles>	"my bad" i suppose
Oct 31 00:07:47 <BTC-Mining>	After december 1, no STAT will include any ETF holding because data will have been removed...
Oct 31 00:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 31 00:07:55 <BTC-Mining>	so it will not be possible.
Oct 31 00:07:58 <smickles>	no
Oct 31 00:08:06 <smickles>	it will, just STAT b/f dec 1
Oct 31 00:08:08 <smickles>	and keep it
Oct 31 00:08:13 <smickles>	it's a signed receipt
Oct 31 00:08:36 <smickles>	one local, one local bacup, one offsite backup
Oct 31 00:09:02 <smickles>	burden of proof is on the person making the positive assertion
Oct 31 00:09:18 <smickles>	(i.e. in this situation, the f.giga holder)
Oct 31 00:09:29 <BTC-Mining>	but that's the thing, Mircea said he would not accept any signed statement or backup of his database if asset information is disclosed after December 1st (from GLBSE part)
Oct 31 00:10:04 <BTC-Mining>	Not about statments from MPEx coming after december 1st because there would be none.
Oct 31 00:10:04 <BTC-Mining>	(Info about the ETF)
Oct 31 00:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	actually what it says is "held discarded as worthless"
Oct 31 00:10:22 <smickles>	yeah, well, i'm inclined to agree with that course of action myself :
Oct 31 00:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	"shares held discarded as worthless"
Oct 31 00:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	it specifically does not say what happens if they even later prove to have been mistakenly discarded as worthless (as in, are worth something).
Oct 31 00:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	but as explained above, this does not actually degrade anyone's ability to prove that they did own them at some point.
Oct 31 00:12:32 <BTC-Mining>	But what good would that do to be able to prove you owned them at some point?
Oct 31 00:12:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00045764 = 11.8986 BTC [-]
Oct 31 00:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	now how would i know that ?
Oct 31 00:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40699 @ 0.00046007 = 18.7244 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00046017 = 10.4459 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53175 @ 0.00046137 = 24.5333 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12469 @ 0.00046613 = 5.8122 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8239 @ 0.00046631 = 3.8419 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:08 <BTC-Mining>	So the signed statements are pretty much... pointless, then.
Oct 31 00:14:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25814 @ 0.00046695 = 12.0538 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43500 @ 0.00047111 = 20.4933 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8271 @ 0.00047152 = 3.8999 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29917 @ 0.0004727 = 14.1418 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.000475 = 2.85 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11318 @ 0.00048 = 5.4326 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00048021 = 13.4459 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15864 @ 0.00048051 = 7.6228 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00048135 = 1.7329 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4644 @ 0.00048155 = 2.2363 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00048252 = 13.4141 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33300 @ 0.00048422 = 16.1245 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9712 @ 0.0004874 = 4.7336 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14978 @ 0.00048788 = 7.3075 BTC [+]
Oct 31 00:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
Oct 31 00:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	how do you judge ?
Oct 31 00:14:39 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: directly, if I had proof that i owned f.gigg.etf on dec 1, would you give me fair value of those shares at any point in the future if i relinquish my ownership of them?
Oct 31 00:15:26 <BTC-Mining>	Seriously, why do you even have them if you nor anyone else accepts them?
Oct 31 00:16:02 <BTC-Mining>	Okay, let's take it from another angle.
Oct 31 00:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i will (and always have) satisfy legitimate claims against myself.
Oct 31 00:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	now, it'll all come down to whether your claim is legitimate at thatp oint.
Oct 31 00:16:20 <smickles>	there you have it BTC-Mining
Oct 31 00:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining your rights are your rights man.
Oct 31 00:16:32 <BTC-Mining>	What?
Oct 31 00:16:35 <mircea_popescu>	they're not a function of someone else.
Oct 31 00:17:05 <BTC-Mining>	I'm really confused... can't you just say if you'll honor or not a valid claim to any shares?
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Oct 31 00:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	no, cause it's a future question and i don't know the contingencies.
Oct 31 00:17:34 <BTC-Mining>	Ah, I see...
Oct 31 00:17:43 <BTC-Mining>	That kind of changes everything tho.
Oct 31 00:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	people were asking me, oh, what about upgrade to tera
Oct 31 00:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	and i had to stick to "all i'll do is pass along all that's passed to me"
Oct 31 00:18:11 <BTC-Mining>	I have two question then.
Oct 31 00:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	because i can't make future viewing statements on contingencies like that.
Oct 31 00:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	turns out i was responsible to do it, too, cause it prevented teh crisis from compounding to some degree.
Oct 31 00:19:46 <BTC-Mining>	Ok, so all signed statement has a CERTAIN claim value, but you won't pronounce yourself on that value until you know the facts regarding the future situation for such claims.
Oct 31 00:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	well yes.
Oct 31 00:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	and i fully appreciate it may seem insane or w/e, but the fact of the matter is we are involved in very complex transactions and the only way to do all this is to do it CORRECTLY
Oct 31 00:21:46 <BTC-Mining>	We could have stopped this conversation 2 hours ago if you simply and clearly stated it that way then...
Oct 31 00:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	or we might as well not even bother
Oct 31 00:21:58 <BTC-Mining>	Because that is PERFECTLY fine with me.
Oct 31 00:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining lol we talked of this before, i have no way of knowing from the onset what exactly is the form that's clear to you
Oct 31 00:22:18 <BTC-Mining>	Even with 1 month delays or even 1 week delays would be fine with me then...
Oct 31 00:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 31 00:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	well, i don't think it was wasted time, something tells me this discussion will form precedent for many later discussions.
Oct 31 00:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	possibly after we're all dead.
Oct 31 00:22:59 <BTC-Mining>	If you don't want to pronounce yourself on something with unkown variables, just state it.
Oct 31 00:23:23 <BTC-Mining>	I would then consider it fine.
Oct 31 00:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol you know i could say "if you only asked this two hours ago" just as well :p
Oct 31 00:24:04 <BTC-Mining>	I understood it as any signed statement by MPEx would never ever be accepted in any circumstance by MPEx.
Oct 31 00:24:58 <BTC-Mining>	I think I asked something like, would you honor a signed statement? Which you answered as "No"
Oct 31 00:25:27 <BTC-Mining>	But I guess you were answering to the litteral sense of my question...
Oct 31 00:25:34 *	mircea_popescu looks
Oct 31 00:26:42 <BTC-Mining>	[22:21] <BTC-Mining> Will you honor the most recent data available as of who owns what of the ETF should the information be disclosed and you get access to the funds received through it?
Oct 31 00:26:42 <BTC-Mining>	[22:21] <BTC-Mining> I guess would be were I'm getting at.
Oct 31 00:26:42 <BTC-Mining>	[22:22] <smickles> 30 years later?
Oct 31 00:26:42 <BTC-Mining>	[22:22] <mircea_popescu> lol srsly.
Oct 31 00:26:42 <BTC-Mining>	[22:22] <smickles> ;P
Oct 31 00:26:42 <BTC-Mining>	[22:22] <BTC-Mining> Yes.
Oct 31 00:26:42 <BTC-Mining>	[22:22] <mircea_popescu> nope.
Oct 31 00:26:55 <BTC-Mining>	I think that part 2 hours ago is where it happened...
Oct 31 00:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	but you said yes to smickle's 30 years and i said nope
Oct 31 00:28:19 <BTC-Mining>	No, I stated afterward I answered yes to your "lol srsly" as if it was an answer to my question.
Oct 31 00:28:43 <BTC-Mining>	I never addressed smickles or what he said at that point.
Oct 31 00:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	ya well i dropped that part so.
Oct 31 00:29:07 <BTC-Mining>	After that statement, I think it went unnanswered and we kind of dropped getting anything clear out of it =/
Oct 31 00:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, ima clean this and put it up for later.
Oct 31 00:29:47 <BTC-Mining>	Well, if you don't mind, I have 2 final question.
Oct 31 00:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Oct 31 00:30:51 <smickles>	oh gawd, i'm going to be in one of your posts looking silly again arn't i?
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Oct 31 00:31:37 <BTC-Mining>	Suppose your ETF has 1000 units. Someone has 900 shares and a signed statement from November the 29th. Someone has 100 units and 10 accounts, and 10 statement from the 30th of november for 100 units, one for each of those accounts.
Oct 31 00:32:24 <BTC-Mining>	You would need the most recent database backup to identify legitimate claims would you not?
Oct 31 00:34:12 <BTC-Mining>	The first person never sold his 900 units and the other transfered the units from one account to the other to get his 10 statements.
Oct 31 00:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	transfers have nothing to do with this tho.
Oct 31 00:35:34 <smickles>	i think something flew over your head
Oct 31 00:35:49 <mircea_popescu>	you for some reason seem to be mixing historical data with active data.
Oct 31 00:36:01 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not about to delete f.giga.etf entries from the historical records.
Oct 31 00:36:22 <BTC-Mining>	You're going to KEEP the trading data?
Oct 31 00:36:26 <smickles>	it's still a good idea to copy the db dump on dec 1
Oct 31 00:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	of course ?!
Oct 31 00:36:49 <BTC-Mining>	I understood it as you were going to delete ALL data...
Oct 31 00:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	ffs.
Oct 31 00:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	what, am i going to log into twitter and delete tweets ?
Oct 31 00:37:13 <mircea_popescu>	contact everyone on irc list to the right ask them to wipe selected lines from their logs ?
Oct 31 00:37:21 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: do be sure to include my witty remark if you can :)
Oct 31 00:37:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 31 00:37:52 <mod6>	that was a looooong way to get a short distance
Oct 31 00:37:58 <BTC-Mining>	Mircea, but those twitter/IRC log does not contain who the shares are sent to.
Oct 31 00:38:29 <BTC-Mining>	and account transfers are not public
Oct 31 00:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining think for a moment, logically. in any possible implementation there'd be some dbs which hold records of what has happened. such as, who transfered what to whom, in sale or otherwise.
Oct 31 00:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	and also, some records that'd keep balances.
Oct 31 00:38:48 <BTC-Mining>	Yes
Oct 31 00:39:02 <mircea_popescu>	conceivably, one'd care to keep these later trimmed seeing how they're pounded possibly 1000s of times a second
Oct 31 00:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	one'd not give a shit about the former, and even keep most of them off the active db cause mpex doesn't need to review trade #5 at any point in november 2012
Oct 31 00:39:52 <BTC-Mining>	Aye
Oct 31 00:39:56 <smickles>	mod6: LURCKER!
Oct 31 00:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	so then ?
Oct 31 00:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 :p
Oct 31 00:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7132 @ 0.00045764 = 3.2639 BTC [-]
Oct 31 00:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00045764 = 12.9054 BTC [-]
Oct 31 00:40:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5868 @ 0.00045762 = 2.6853 BTC [-]
Oct 31 00:40:43 <mod6>	haha, i was afk, then scrolled back. was thinking "didn't we just have this conversation an hour ago?!"
Oct 31 00:40:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 31 00:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	yes, we were.
Oct 31 00:41:14 <BTC-Mining>	Aye, but that means signed "STAT" statements are not useful at all to prove ownership of anything at any point other than the moment it was created.
Oct 31 00:41:24 <smickles>	I know for a fackt that mircea_popescu has a cron job of rm -rf /home/user/mpex/db.sql
Oct 31 00:41:36 <BTC-Mining>	Meaning you need the actually trading statements to identify legitimate holders.
Oct 31 00:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	signed stats do exactly what they do : they show that at time X you had Y.
Oct 31 00:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	no more, no less. this is the most they could do, too.
Oct 31 00:42:45 <BTC-Mining>	So you would, theorically, need a database backup to be used in a claim. Signed "STAT" statements are not receivable.
Oct 31 00:43:07 <mircea_popescu>	what's not receivable mean ? they're not negotiable instruments, no.
Oct 31 00:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	but the chain of dispute is very simple and efficient. let me explain it.
Oct 31 00:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	I. Person complains about MPEx.
Oct 31 00:44:08 <BTC-Mining>	Not as in negociable instruments. Receivable has offering any proof of ownership later than the date it was issued.
Oct 31 00:44:20 <mircea_popescu>	either person has or has not a stat to back their complaint. if they do not, complaint is invalid.
Oct 31 00:44:34 <BTC-Mining>	Mircea: yes
Oct 31 00:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	II. MPEx reviews complaint. either it has or it has not ulterior transactions signed by person
Oct 31 00:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	if it does the complaint is invalid.
Oct 31 00:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	end of dispute.
Oct 31 00:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	there's no guessing involved in any of this.
Oct 31 00:45:17 <smickles>	wow, you have written policy, don't you, I've gone thru this exact proceeding
Oct 31 00:45:21 <BTC-Mining>	So you need to keep all transactions data for that, as proof we signed them at a later date.
Oct 31 00:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	smickles yes.
Oct 31 00:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining yes.
Oct 31 00:45:52 <BTC-Mining>	And as such will keep the transactions data for the ETF.
Oct 31 00:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	the transaction (in general, the historical) data was never in discussion.
Oct 31 00:46:28 <smickles>	clever girl
Oct 31 00:46:35 <BTC-Mining>	When you said you'd delete ALL data for the ETF, I understood it as ALL the data. Including signed transactions...
Oct 31 00:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't say i delete all data lol. i said the shares are discarded as worthless
Oct 31 00:47:02 <BTC-Mining>	Wait... let me fetch the bit...
Oct 31 00:47:14 <smickles>	oh snap, mircea_popescu
Oct 31 00:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	wtf, delete signed orders create chaos. heck, why not, lets have fun
Oct 31 00:47:28 <smickles>	\o\
Oct 31 00:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol whazzat smickles ?
Oct 31 00:47:48 <smickles>	he's going to quote you saying something
Oct 31 00:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	no harm in that eh
Oct 31 00:48:13 <smickles>	02:18 < mircea_popescu> BTC-Mining i can't delete "all data" man. the signed stats will forever exist.
Oct 31 00:48:26 <smickles>	04:01 < mircea_popescu> you were talking about "data being deleted". a customer wanting to push a claim would be in no worse position today,  on the 5th of december 2012 or 2015
Oct 31 00:48:30 <smickles>	04:35 < mircea_popescu> i'm not about to delete f.giga.etf entries from the historical records.
Oct 31 00:48:35 <smickles>	04:37 < mircea_popescu> what, am i going to log into twitter and delete tweets ?
Oct 31 00:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	ya well
Oct 31 00:48:41 <smickles>	04:46 < mircea_popescu> i didn't say i delete all data lol. i said the shares are discarded as worthless
Oct 31 00:48:49 <smickles>	04:47 < mircea_popescu> wtf, delete signed orders create chaos. heck, why not, lets have fun
Oct 31 00:49:00 <smickles>	last 1000 lines, every time mircea_popescu said delete
Oct 31 00:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	haha fun times
Oct 31 00:49:11 <smickles>	all time UTC
Oct 31 00:49:14 <smickles>	*times
Oct 31 00:49:50 <smickles>	maybe it was on reddit
Oct 31 00:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	i've not been on reddit today, you;ve kept me busy
Oct 31 00:50:30 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: is your reddit user private or something?
Oct 31 00:50:43 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/user/mirceapopescu <> page not found
Oct 31 00:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Oct 31 00:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	its beleeted!!1
Oct 31 00:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	(ftr, i see it fine)
Oct 31 00:52:20 <BTC-Mining>	Mea culpa I guess. You were talking about how it's unreasonable to keep the data indefinitly. I understood it as all the data. I pointed out I was annoyed by this.
Oct 31 00:52:41 <BTC-Mining>	[21:07] <BTC-Mining> Keeping the data aside doesn't cost much logistically.
Oct 31 00:52:41 <BTC-Mining>	[21:07] <mircea_popescu> well, it is kept aside if you keep your stats.
Oct 31 00:52:41 <BTC-Mining>	[21:08] <mircea_popescu> mpex isn't designed to be a sort of glbse
Oct 31 00:52:52 <BTC-Mining>	I completly missed that second line.
Oct 31 00:53:18 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Oct 31 00:53:34 <BTC-Mining>	Well actually, I understood it badly.
Oct 31 00:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining will now be punished to copy by hand http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/bitcoin-wittgenstein-assets/ ten times
Oct 31 00:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	for misstating facts, jumping to conclusions and other crmes
Oct 31 00:54:28 <BTC-Mining>	I understood it as data would be preserved within the saved "stat" data.
Oct 31 00:54:47 <mircea_popescu>	nah, really, it's a more complex scheme.
Oct 31 00:54:49 <BTC-Mining>	Not that related transaction data would be kept and compared against
Oct 31 00:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	made out of parts as it were
Oct 31 00:54:54 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/lumDI.png
Oct 31 00:55:17 <mircea_popescu>	smickles seems we've been separated!
Oct 31 00:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	whoa proxy 404s me too
Oct 31 00:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	odd.
Oct 31 01:01:02 <BTC-Mining>	Nefario claimed not to be using user's funds. Theymos, thinking "wait, Nefario certainly does not have the money to pay for it, he probably used the users's funds". And went ahead making an official statement that Nefario used. Now that's assumption put forward as facts. You stated the data for the ETF would be deleted (A general statement which seems to indicate any data related would
Oct 31 01:01:02 <BTC-Mining>	be erased), that data would be kept along signed statement (as in all your data too, it was a bit of confusion in my understanding), and then the part with smickles where it went unanswered if you'd honor signed statements (not very useful if you don't keep your part of the signed data).
Oct 31 01:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	the fact zinger was about the legal stuff re nefario
Oct 31 01:01:47 <BTC-Mining>	As such, I might have been wrong. But I never presented it as a fact. Although technically we're on a public medium in this channel, this was a conversation between you and me.
Oct 31 01:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	<strong>BTC-Mining</strong> If you don't know the facts, he claims to have asked the FSA about it long ago but they claimed not to be concerned by anything Bitcoins related. (Probably miscommunication). Trying to go legal, he consulted again and was told to stop or he could be charged.
Oct 31 01:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	<strong>mircea_popescu</strong> you know this as a fact ?
Oct 31 01:03:49 <BTC-Mining>	Misstating fact would be me going right away without further discussion or confirmation on bitcointalk loudmouthing how it is a fact you'll delete all signed transactions for the GIGA.ETF rendering taking backups useless.
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Oct 31 01:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	hehe okay.
Oct 31 01:05:25 <BTC-Mining>	I came for answers and although your statements were a bit cryptic at first, I ended up with my answers.
Oct 31 01:06:22 <BTC-Mining>	As for the other part where I claim facts, I cannot actually claim direct sighting of those facts.
Oct 31 01:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	hey, so did everyone else. WHETHER THEY WANT TO OR NOT!!1
Oct 31 01:06:28 <BTC-Mining>	Only that I know of it from Nefario's meeting with the shareholder, for which the log is not disputed by any shareholder.
Oct 31 01:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	nefario has this bad habit of lieing through his teeth.
Oct 31 01:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	very self-righteously about it, too.
Oct 31 01:07:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23244 @ 0.00045762 = 10.6369 BTC [-]
Oct 31 01:07:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31616 @ 0.00045734 = 14.4593 BTC [-]
Oct 31 01:07:34 <BTC-Mining>	No, but some credible or related people have made the claims and have seen them. And I said the fact was Nefario CLAIMED it, not if he lied or not about it.
Oct 31 01:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	i've been so far perfectly unable to confirm much of it. but who knows.
Oct 31 01:08:02 <BTC-Mining>	My complain is people passing as fact something they have no credible claim to pass it as a fact.
Oct 31 01:08:34 <BTC-Mining>	Like theymos passing as a fact Nefario was using user's funds solely because "He thought so"
Oct 31 01:09:06 <BTC-Mining>	While what I claim Nefario claimed has a public log not contested by GLBSE shareholders of their meeting.
Oct 31 01:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	tbh, i thought that perfectly credible.
Oct 31 01:09:29 <mircea_popescu>	(knowing that he had spent glbse money w/o permission, which isn't disputed)
Oct 31 01:10:25 <BTC-Mining>	No one has any proof Nefario used any of GLBSE's users funds to pay for his lawyer. Theymos just decided it was so.
Oct 31 01:11:25 <BTC-Mining>	While the log for the meeting is not disputed by multiple people being witness of said conversation, which gives a certain credibility and Nefario said what he said in thos logs.
Oct 31 01:11:41 <BTC-Mining>	credibility that*
Oct 31 01:12:14 <BTC-Mining>	One is completly hypothetical and based on nothing. The other is based on multiple witness accounts.
Oct 31 01:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	it's in those same logs that nefario spent glbse/bcglobal money w/o asking.
Oct 31 01:14:42 <BTC-Mining>	He said he wanted Bitcoin Global to pay for the lawyer he hired for himself.
Oct 31 01:15:45 <BTC-Mining>	He denied that he used the users' funds for it and merely claimed to want the expenses to be paid by Bitcoin Global which had money that was not the users' funds.
Oct 31 01:16:48 <BTC-Mining>	Theymos decided to screw it and just tell everyone Nefario used the users' funds to pay for his lawyer.
Oct 31 01:17:13 <BTC-Mining>	At least this is what the logs afterward seems to show and he didn't dispute them.
Oct 31 01:19:00 <BTC-Mining>	I'd have to find it, but I even recall theymos later posting that he had no actual idea if Nefario did that, he just thought he probably did.
Oct 31 01:20:53 <BTC-Mining>	Note that my previous statement states that I "recall" seeing such a post, not that it actually happened.
Oct 31 01:20:59 <BTC-Mining>	Let me try and find that.
Oct 31 01:21:40 <BTC-Mining>	Well that's not it... but it's interesting nonetheless...
Oct 31 01:21:42 <BTC-Mining>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1307789#msg1307789
Oct 31 01:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining im not even sure it matters that much eh ?
Oct 31 01:22:31 <BTC-Mining>	Not at all... Looks like theymos is doing something else completly on his side.
Oct 31 01:25:09 <BTC-Mining>	ah, here's one of them: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118354.msg1283157#msg1283157
Oct 31 01:25:25 <BTC-Mining>	He only indirectly admits it in this one, but should be sufficient.
Oct 31 01:26:30 <BTC-Mining>	The point being, there's a difference between made up scenarios you have in your head and "facts" involving direct claims/witnesses.
Oct 31 01:27:04 <BTC-Mining>	And I don't like people rushing things as fast on the forum without any proof or reasonable evidence.
Oct 31 01:28:19 <BTC-Mining>	Hence why I asked you here for more info (got satisfied), instead of going on the forum creating more drama.
Oct 31 01:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00045826 = 5.3616 BTC [+]
Oct 31 01:54:34 <knotwork>	* mircea_popescu wonders if everyone else is alseep/sexting/busy not giving a shit or quite the contrary, in awed silence at the sheer genius of the debate unraveling before their very eyes.
Oct 31 01:55:36 <knotwork>	Not asleep, just taking a long time to backtrack to figure out if the whole dramafest-recap-and-rerun was ultimately just something thinking "discard as worthless" implied or intended "deletion of records"
Oct 31 01:55:52 <knotwork>	s/something/someone/
Oct 31 01:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	well i guess all this is new, so people make varied assumptions
Oct 31 01:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	in the end it's not bad, sets precedents etc
Oct 31 01:56:42 <knotwork>	(yes we deleted the shares as worthless. Oh suddenly dividends turn up? no we didn't delete rcords, presto undelete...)
Oct 31 01:57:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00046 = 0.138 BTC [+]
Oct 31 01:57:32 <knotwork>	oops s/yes we deleted/yes we discarded/ ... s/presto undelete/presto dumpsterdive/
Oct 31 01:58:50 <knotwork>	a technical loophole - we dis-carded as in its not writ on stone nor cardboard anymore, more of a mere paper trail ow
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Oct 31 01:59:15 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, it won't be showing up anymore.
Oct 31 01:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	you know, you can't just not show people symbols in stats w/o teling them in advance
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Oct 31 01:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	(at least imo)
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Oct 31 01:59:42 <knotwork>	Or are you basically trying to buy them all back so that by the time they are "discarded as worthless" no one is stuck with any anyway?
Oct 31 02:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	no, im just trying to explain to ppl why starting dec 1st there won't be any f.giga.etf listed in their STAT responses
Oct 31 02:00:43 <knotwork>	oh right, the real actual effect is actual de-listing
Oct 31 02:01:12 <knotwork>	the "discarded as worthless" part is what? more a colloquialism? or a technical term meaning something specific?
Oct 31 02:02:16 <knotwork>	I have lots still in backscroll I havent scrolled back as far as yet
Oct 31 02:05:09 <knotwork>	seems maybe similar/related to the "a beneficiary was intended" stuff in contracts, mentioned in some pirate threads
Oct 31 02:05:37 <knotwork>	you got the stuff from Nefario/GLBSE for the purpose of others receiving it
Oct 31 02:06:18 <knotwork>	so even though it was you who dealt with Nefario the people you got them for still have claim through to Nefario, "in equity", maybe
Oct 31 02:06:49 <knotwork>	so I dont see much big reason why you should be prevented from bowing out
Oct 31 02:07:05 <knotwork>	maybe not an reason really
Oct 31 02:08:25 <knotwork>	but, you did use the term ETF rather than pass-through, even though you also commented maybe casually rather than stated officially/technically that it was kind of sort of maybe at least much akin to a passthrough
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Oct 31 02:18:03 <BTC-Mining>	Well, basically, yes. I was asking mircea about what was going to be deleted and understood his statements differently than what he meant.
Oct 31 02:18:38 <BTC-Mining>	In the end, everything was fine, but we each lost ~2-3 hours of meaningless argumentation.
Oct 31 02:20:11 <BTC-Mining>	Hmm, I somehow managed to end up reading a thread about some Intersango drama dating september 2011
Oct 31 02:20:25 <BTC-Mining>	[05:34] <phantomcircuit> BenDavis, we're an agent
Oct 31 02:20:25 <BTC-Mining>	[05:34] <phantomcircuit> so the answer isn't yes or no
Oct 31 02:20:25 <BTC-Mining>	[05:34] <@BenDavis> Are they YOUR coins, yes or no.
Oct 31 02:20:25 <BTC-Mining>	[05:34] <@Geebus> By that definition, our users have stolen 26200 bitcoins from us through transactions we have sent to them.
Oct 31 02:20:25 <BTC-Mining>	[05:34] <@BenDavis> the answer is NO.
Oct 31 02:20:25 <BTC-Mining>	[05:35] <@BenDavis> So.  You sending them when they are not yours... makes YOU the thief.
Oct 31 02:20:56 <BTC-Mining>	It looks like BenDavis has no understanding of the concept of "intent" in the law.
Oct 31 02:22:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00046026 = 4.3725 BTC [+]
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Oct 31 02:27:46 <knotwork>	ok done the backscroll. Sounds like MPEx should do like GLBSE ought to, which is, release the info to in this case givavps
Oct 31 02:28:25 <knotwork>	send gagavps data that will allow MPEx people who held gigavps shares through GLBSE->MPEx to contact giva directly
Oct 31 02:28:31 <knotwork>	s/giva/giga/
Oct 31 02:29:35 <knotwork>	since people were explicitly warned up front that whether the PGP identity they use at MPEx would correlate to their real identity was in their own hands,
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Oct 31 02:29:45 <BTC-Mining>	Nah, nah
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Oct 31 02:30:03 <knotwork>	possibly it might even be that MPEx can simply directly tell gigavps which PGP identity held how much
Oct 31 02:30:40 <knotwork>	I say "possibly" because I do not recall whether MPEx let me use as my PGP identity my normal one, my OTC one, whose publicly listed email address does not exist
Oct 31 02:30:54 <BTC-Mining>	It seems that if appropriate and feasible, and someone makes a claim with a signed statement Mircea finds out to be receivable, he will honor the claim.
Oct 31 02:31:22 <knotwork>	I think MPEx did let me do that, and if so, then anyone could have made up any ficitional but syntactically possible email address to make up a PGP identity for
Oct 31 02:31:46 <knotwork>	thus whether giga would learn who they are given their PGP identity is up to them, as they were told from the start
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Oct 31 02:32:02 <BTC-Mining>	I don't think mircea would do that.
Oct 31 02:32:43 <knotwork>	I am pretty sure MPEx does not refuse email orders that come from an email address that is not officially tied to the PGP identity whose orders that email address is sending
Oct 31 02:33:34 <BTC-Mining>	email orders?
Oct 31 02:33:47 <knotwork>	Because, I recall being annoyed recently at some other site or service or somesuch that rejected my PGP identity seemingly due to its email address (one that does not exist thus doesnt receive spam) not being where I emailed from
Oct 31 02:34:02 <knotwork>	doesn't MPEx take orders via email?
Oct 31 02:34:17 <knotwork>	I thought I registered there by sending a PGP-crypted email?
Oct 31 02:34:43 <knotwork>	later I say one could paste into a web form but was that the only way? was there never a send orders by email?
Oct 31 02:34:54 <knotwork>	s/later I say/later I saw/
Oct 31 02:35:31 <knotwork>	Mircea should not have to worry about later claims and honouring them
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Oct 31 02:36:07 <knotwork>	he should just send giga the list of shareholders just like GLBSE is theoretically imagined to be planning to maybe someday do
Oct 31 02:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork "anyone could have made up any ficitional but syntactically possible email address to make up a PGP identity for" << this part is correct
Oct 31 02:37:07 <knotwork>	but unlike GLBSE he need not do weird codes shit, since he told everyone up front that if they want to be anonymous they should create a PGP identity no one knows is them. didnt he? or am I confused having just read bunch of how to Torify email sites?
Oct 31 02:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining back a year or so ago mpoe traded by email. i think knotwork isn't up to date with the new trade paradigm
Oct 31 02:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork nah gpg string is just submited as a post to an url.
Oct 31 02:37:48 <knotwork>	My OTC identity is webmaster@makemoney.knotwork.com, which deliberately is no longer spammable
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Oct 31 02:38:26 <knotwork>	some idiot service recently refused to let me use that identity because I sent them the email from a real email address that can actually accept email
Oct 31 02:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	and also yes, everyoen was told. it's in the faq :" http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#18
Oct 31 02:39:22 <knotwork>	so there ya go mircea, just give giga the full data on how much of your passthrough each PGP identity owned
Oct 31 02:39:57 <knotwork>	was the scale such that some owners might have owned thereby a fractional number of actual gigavps?
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Oct 31 02:40:11 <knotwork>	or was it scaled so it can even actually come out as integers?
Oct 31 02:40:57 <knotwork>	regardless, giga can no doubt handle it, nd you can give him that info sooner than he hears from GLBSE how many actual shares your entire bunch of PGP people had between them
Oct 31 02:41:03 <BTC-Mining>	I'm almost sure he won't do that.
Oct 31 02:41:30 <knotwork>	oh is he one of the "I never sold anyone anything" like Goat not long ago said?
Oct 31 02:41:40 <BTC-Mining>	I don't see mircea going around asking the ETF holders if they want their information disclosed to Gigavps
Oct 31 02:41:49 <BTC-Mining>	No, not any of that nonsense
Oct 31 02:41:57 <knotwork>	their infomration wont be disclosed to gigavps
Oct 31 02:42:21 <knotwork>	only the information about a bunch of anonymous sock puppets / PGP identities would be released
Oct 31 02:42:45 <knotwork>	any relation between those identities and actual people the people were warned up front not to cause/create
Oct 31 02:43:02 <smickles>	i'm sure not everyone did that
Oct 31 02:43:10 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork there's plenty of problems. for once the scale is 1:1000, for another it wasn't a direct holding, and i see no good reason to pressure giga this way (which would be really abusive tbh)
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Oct 31 02:43:16 <knotwork>	I deliberately used my best known PGP identity
Oct 31 02:43:30 <smickles>	and why should giga trust that mircea_popescu only issued a proportional amount of the etf shares?
Oct 31 02:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	and in general it'd be a premier way to cause a mess. i'll pass
Oct 31 02:43:50 <knotwork>	so if I owned giga passsthrough shares I would of course suffer the consequences of having used a known identity
Oct 31 02:43:58 <BTC-Mining>	I believe he'll pay out what Gigamining's shares pay to the ETF holder if any receivable claim arrise in the future, where the info would eventually be disclosed and Gigavps would resume payments, and where the claimer has receivable proof he held ETF units.
Oct 31 02:44:02 <BTC-Mining>	and possibly other conditions I'm missing
Oct 31 02:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork this is something that MAY happen, but i'll still try and protect them
Oct 31 02:44:35 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining i tell you, the shit we get involved in here would put to shame a full fledged commercial paper litigation house
Oct 31 02:45:00 <knotwork>	I was an early adopter invitee, so possibly the invite actually was contingent upon my using my OTC identity?
Oct 31 02:45:36 <smickles>	i think you only had to prove an ident was you, not have it be the ident for mpex
Oct 31 02:45:42 <knotwork>	though had I wanted to use an anonymous one maybe ...
Oct 31 02:45:48 <knotwork>	yes as I was typing
Oct 31 02:46:01 <knotwork>	I would have come here and argued for it, proven it was me
Oct 31 02:46:02 <smickles>	heh, sry to seal you thunder :)
Oct 31 02:46:34 <knotwork>	also it was more about issuing assets maybe than buying other peoples assets
Oct 31 02:46:57 <BTC-Mining>	Mircea, they'd all say: "We're sorry, but the criterions for your case does not make you not eligible to be a client of ours."
Oct 31 02:47:10 <knotwork>	he wanted well known/identified people to come look at his system and consider issuing something there
Oct 31 02:47:43 <BTC-Mining>	Where criterions are the applicable laws and the fact the case does not bring any receivable proof for the litigation to apply those laws.
Oct 31 02:47:46 <smickles>	oh, that musta been beta b/f the beta i knew of
Oct 31 02:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00046026 = 1.3348 BTC [+]
Oct 31 02:48:30 <smickles>	or maybe another side of the same 'beta-coin'
Oct 31 02:48:36 <knotwork>	re "They",  maybe "they" would say of course your offshore corp in a place that doesnt reveal corp owners is not anonymous and we will not hide its identity
Oct 31 02:49:13 <knotwork>	in other words, if you wanted anonymity you provided it to yourself if you didnt well sorry you didnt, not my problem
Oct 31 02:50:08 <knotwork>	your PGP identity is your offshore or not corp that does or does not reveal its owners
Oct 31 02:50:28 <BTC-Mining>	I meant that for any case where funds were stolen, you'd have to prove in courts who you sent the bitcoins to.
Oct 31 02:50:52 <BTC-Mining>	And that may well be denied by the defendant and impossible to prove.
Oct 31 02:50:59 <knotwork>	huh?
Oct 31 02:51:12 <knotwork>	to prove someone stole my wallet I have to prove where I spent its contents?
Oct 31 02:51:43 <BTC-Mining>	No, to prove someone stole your funds, you'd have to prove you ever sent it to that person.
Oct 31 02:52:07 <knotwork>	no, that would be to attempt to claim fraud or fiduciary negligence etc
Oct 31 02:52:22 <knotwork>	stolen is when I didnt send them to anyone yet I no longer have them
Oct 31 02:52:47 <knotwork>	sending them to someone who then fails to do right by me in regard to them is a bit more complicated
Oct 31 02:52:59 <knotwork>	it gets into why I sent them to them in the first place
Oct 31 02:53:08 <BTC-Mining>	Ah, sorry. I was not using legal terms, only the general meaning of stealing.
Oct 31 02:53:17 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, financial fraud.
Oct 31 02:53:24 <BTC-Mining>	Was what I was referring to.
Oct 31 02:53:28 <knotwork>	and I do not have to prove I sent them, the blockchain proves a certain private key ordered them sent
Oct 31 02:53:54 <BTC-Mining>	And if that person was always dealing from TOR, never tied the bitcoins to a transaction toward one of his bank account and denies owning the address, you can't provide a proof.
Oct 31 02:53:59 <knotwork>	and that same private key can also sign a digital statement to the effect that it wants them back and why
Oct 31 02:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/conversation-discarded-as-worthless/ convo of doom
Oct 31 02:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	for the ages.
Oct 31 02:54:27 <BTC-Mining>	Thank you, thank you.
Oct 31 02:54:33 <smickles>	oh no
Oct 31 02:54:39 <smickles>	i hit the paywal
Oct 31 02:54:40 <BTC-Mining>	I take credit for this mess.
Oct 31 02:54:46 <smickles>	paywall*
Oct 31 02:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	give it a week s
Oct 31 02:54:59 <BTC-Mining>	You've been immortalized, again?
Oct 31 02:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	and now gents, im wasted so catch you all tomorrow.
Oct 31 02:55:08 <smickles>	/¯(°_o)/¯
Oct 31 02:55:13 <smickles>	nn
Oct 31 02:55:20 <BTC-Mining>	Goodbye Mircea.
Oct 31 02:55:28 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: i dunno, i hit mircea's paywall
Oct 31 02:56:01 <knotwork>	gnite
Oct 31 02:56:20 <knotwork>	oh he has one of those you read too much things?
Oct 31 02:56:37 <knotwork>	take it as a hint that you read too much :)
Oct 31 02:56:42 <BTC-Mining>	knotwork, yes there's signed digital statements, but I meant to answer Mircea's statement about commercial litigation house
Oct 31 02:57:05 <BTC-Mining>	Where if you were to pursue some actual person for financial fraud.
Oct 31 02:57:20 <smickles>	wow, you get 1000 article views for 1 usd in btc
Oct 31 02:57:24 <knotwork>	nah it'd have to be a PGP-class action suit :)
Oct 31 02:57:59 <knotwork>	some lawyer pursuing the person on behalf of a bunch of layr-client-priviledged PGP keys
Oct 31 02:58:19 <knotwork>	treat it as them being the lawyer's sock-puppets
Oct 31 02:58:23 <smickles>	"Trilema happens to be the first blog in the world that switched to a paid model, imitated about a year later by The New York Times."
Oct 31 02:58:33 <knotwork>	no need for any of them to actually ever have been anyone else
Oct 31 02:58:38 <BTC-Mining>	Which would be worthless, considering most scammers in Bitcoin where always on TOR and used gpg identity not officially tied to anyone.
Oct 31 02:58:54 <smickles>	i'd be fucked as a scammer
Oct 31 02:59:22 <BTC-Mining>	Their simple denial to have any knowledge of it ever happening or holding the coins would be accepted and they're free.
Oct 31 02:59:40 <knotwork>	Yeah I learned years ago that I read the NYT and WSJ and such way too much
Oct 31 02:59:49 <BTC-Mining>	There's no proof, if the scammer was careful and went away with funds.
Oct 31 02:59:55 <knotwork>	too much being, once in a few years
Oct 31 03:00:01 <BTC-Mining>	No trace and no way to chargeback.
Oct 31 03:00:31 <knotwork>	BTC-M, also no way to get my coins without hacking my machine / coldwallet :)
Oct 31 03:00:46 <BTC-Mining>	Also that.
Oct 31 03:00:52 <BTC-Mining>	It goes both ways.
Oct 31 03:00:59 <knotwork>	or are you implying I was born yesterday? :)
Oct 31 03:01:55 <BTC-Mining>	Well... I don't know... I suppose each other throwing general statements we already know at each other just like that is quite pointless...
Oct 31 03:02:48 <knotwork>	:)
Oct 31 03:02:55 <BTC-Mining>	I motion that we stop this topic this instant. All in favor:
Oct 31 03:02:58 <BTC-Mining>	Aye
Oct 31 03:03:20 <knotwork>	Hitler! Nazi! Holocaust!
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Oct 31 03:04:21 <BTC-Mining>	A new topic?
Oct 31 03:05:19 <knotwork>	no some kind of named rule, dating back to usenet
Oct 31 03:05:35 <knotwork>	thread-death indicators
Oct 31 03:05:50 <BTC-Mining>	Ah
Oct 31 03:06:06 <knotwork>	each. thus, usenet geekish for aye aye aye :)
Oct 31 03:06:46 <knotwork>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
Oct 31 03:06:54 <BTC-Mining>	I was going to say, too controversial. We'd start with general moral statements and end up deep into how no one holds moral truths and even probably dispute the existence of morality as it is completly made up by humans and different on an individual basis.
Oct 31 03:07:25 <knotwork>	oops no Godwin's is diffrent, Godwin's is that eventually all threads devolve to that
Oct 31 03:07:52 <knotwork>	some other and probably prior law was about them ending the topic or should end the topic or smesuch
Oct 31 03:08:43 <knotwork>	For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.
Oct 31 03:08:48 <knotwork>	oops I guess I lost :)
Oct 31 03:09:08 <BTC-Mining>	We were not in a debate?
Oct 31 03:09:26 <knotwork>	 It is considered poor form to raise such a comparison arbitrarily with the motive of ending the thread
Oct 31 03:09:47 <knotwork>	my motive was agreement with already made proposal though
Oct 31 03:10:04 <knotwork>	still, amounts to mcuh the same
Oct 31 03:10:17 <knotwork>	I guess Hitler is bad taste :)
Oct 31 03:11:12 <BTC-Mining>	Also, Yes. Interesting how some things always tend to go toward something specific. You probably know wikipedia always tend to generalize each article with more general words related to it. As such, the vast majority of articles, by following the first link inside the article (not outside of it or in parentheses) end up on the article about philosophy?
Oct 31 03:12:21 <knotwork>	Generalisation in general is generally going to end up in that general area?
Oct 31 03:12:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11664 @ 0.00046071 = 5.3737 BTC [+]
Oct 31 03:13:08 <BTC-Mining>	Amazing way to describe it.
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Oct 31 03:15:14 <knotwork>	it now occurs to me to wonder if there is a way for email clients to figure out which PGP key to use to decrypt email sent from a different email address that that which keyrings associate with the identity
Oct 31 03:15:37 <knotwork>	obviously MPEx managed to read emails I sent from some random email address
Oct 31 03:16:06 <knotwork>	but, I think first email I sent from that address was the one saying hi, find herein my PGP identity I want to use
Oct 31 03:16:41 <knotwork>	normal email clients probably default to asking keyring servers for a PGP identity associate with the  From: address
Oct 31 03:16:54 <knotwork>	but what next? the Reply-to: address maybe?
Oct 31 03:17:15 <BTC-Mining>	Not sure at all how the email pgp thing with the old MPEx worked...
Oct 31 03:17:23 <knotwork>	I wonder if they eventually look for some other clue
Oct 31 03:17:43 <knotwork>	Maybe even an X-PGP-Identity header or something
Oct 31 03:18:03 <knotwork>	Or X-PGP-From
Oct 31 03:18:49 <knotwork>	heck maybe also an X-PGP-To in case its encrypted to an alternate identity of the recipient
Oct 31 03:19:06 <BTC-Mining>	Not sure what's the idea of getting the key based by email? The valid pgp key is the pgp key provided at signup?
Oct 31 03:19:20 <knotwork>	like oops you lost your gmail account, so I write you at a yahoo account I suspect is also you
Oct 31 03:19:30 <knotwork>	if it is you then you can read it
Oct 31 03:19:40 <knotwork>	Yes exactly
Oct 31 03:19:58 <knotwork>	point was, make a new PGP if you want, with a fictional email if you want
Oct 31 03:20:21 <knotwork>	anon.mpex.client@nowhere.real
Oct 31 03:20:37 <BTC-Mining>	and then what?
Oct 31 03:20:39 <knotwork>	actually not sure if keyrings would accept toplevel domains that dont exist
Oct 31 03:21:05 <knotwork>	then email it to mpex saying in effect please tell me how much bitcoin to send
Oct 31 03:21:33 <knotwork>	the tiny decimals of the amount it tells you to send is how it will know its you woh sent it
Oct 31 03:22:03 <knotwork>	so it then has its own knowledge of which PGP it alone knows is associated with that email address
Oct 31 03:22:12 <BTC-Mining>	So regardless of address... as long as both sign message with their respective pgp key, I don't see what you are talking about?
Oct 31 03:22:39 <BTC-Mining>	Sorry, but I don't have the slightest idea of what you are referring to.
Oct 31 03:22:53 <knotwork>	I was wondering about email client software automation of decrypting PGP-crypted messages
Oct 31 03:23:31 <knotwork>	of course manually I can try all my PGP identities if my email client fails to decrypt a message
Oct 31 03:23:41 <knotwork>	and try all people I think it might really be from
Oct 31 03:23:59 <knotwork>	but I was wondering how a proper well made robust email client handles it
Oct 31 03:24:16 <BTC-Mining>	Ah
Oct 31 03:24:31 <BTC-Mining>	I don't have the slightiest idea.
Oct 31 03:24:45 <knotwork>	when it notices the crypting evidently was not done by a PGP identity the public keyservers know is associate with the From: address what address it tries next etc
Oct 31 03:25:22 <knotwork>	also to an extend starting to think about how I would have it work if it was to work really well from my perspective
Oct 31 03:26:46 <knotwork>	for all I know its possible that the whole envelope that PGP puts around the stuff it crypts says outright something like this stuff is crypted by using a key whose fingerprint is thus-and-such
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Oct 31 03:27:59 <knotwork>	I dont think so though as a discussion of sending crypted mail to newsgroups seemed to imply people would have to attempt to decrypt it to recognise it wasnt for them
Oct 31 03:28:20 <knotwork>	thus that one should put something in the title indicating in an anonymous way who it was to
Oct 31 03:28:51 <knotwork>	which in turn not only saves attempting to decrypt but even saves downloading the actual body of any article whose title doesnt indciate its to you
Oct 31 03:30:27 <BTC-Mining>	Possibly
Oct 31 03:30:47 <BTC-Mining>	Hmm... well currently, I believe I send a signed request with my pgp key in the form of: BUY|{MPSIC}|{quantity}|{price}|{expiry} with no email or personal data. And it seems there's no problem associating it with my personal key.
Oct 31 03:31:01 <knotwork>	For all the talk about how we need hidden service cryptocoin services, not one person yet managed to create an account on the online banking system I set up as a tor hidden service for people to explore/test to see if it would fill any such needs
Oct 31 03:31:45 <knotwork>	hmm you curl-push it as a GET or POST to the website?
Oct 31 03:32:26 <BTC-Mining>	I use the Windows port of a python script for it.
Oct 31 03:32:57 <knotwork>	maybe the script sends info it saved already thus says more to the website than you thought?
Oct 31 03:33:07 <BTC-Mining>	But I believe the message sent is the request with the following signature block.
Oct 31 03:33:45 <knotwork>	ahhh a signature has to include info about who signed it else how could one check the signature?
Oct 31 03:33:59 <rg>	LOL.
Oct 31 03:34:01 <knotwork>	different/separate from encrypting
Oct 31 03:34:01 <rg>	http://www.zdnet.com/georgia-turns-the-tables-on-russian-hacker-7000006611/
Oct 31 03:34:07 <BTC-Mining>	According to the FAQ, I can simply sign the order tidbit, then encrypt it with the exchange's public key and input it as such.
Oct 31 03:34:37 <knotwork>	signing a crypted message maybe reveals what ID signed it thus is a good guess for wihch ID crypted it
Oct 31 03:34:59 <knotwork>	but crypting a signed message maybe you have to guess who first to decrypt it before you'd get to see the signature
Oct 31 03:35:23 <BTC-Mining>	Possibly. I think I did one order once manually (the first one) and it worked fine with no input as to who I am.
Oct 31 03:35:33 <BTC-Mining>	I am not incredibly familiar with gpg tho...
Oct 31 03:35:35 <knotwork>	wait, you do crypt after signing?
Oct 31 03:35:43 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, after signing.
Oct 31 03:35:54 <knotwork>	then it has to know who to decrypt-it-as-from
Oct 31 03:36:03 <knotwork>	before it can see the signature
Oct 31 03:36:12 <BTC-Mining>	The only MPEx can decrypt the message and receives the signature.
Oct 31 03:36:23 <smickles>	knotwork: https://github.com/smickles/pyMPEx
Oct 31 03:36:47 <smickles>	the script is fairly straight forward
Oct 31 03:36:54 <BTC-Mining>	No, it's not encrypted on my side. Just MPEx's public key.
Oct 31 03:37:04 <BTC-Mining>	He only needs his private key to decrypt the message.
Oct 31 03:37:28 <BTC-Mining>	Well, not with anything from my side, although I encrypted it from my computer.
Oct 31 03:37:33 <knotwork>	Yeah I saw pyMPEx before and thought oh wow clever way to sucker people who do not know who mircea is into signing his key
Oct 31 03:37:47 <knotwork>	thought hey did pirate do that too?
Oct 31 03:38:08 <knotwork>	since someone put in WOT a comment they found it convenient to sign the key
Oct 31 03:38:23 <smickles>	you don't need to sign mpex's key, iirc
Oct 31 03:38:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00046191 = 5.8201 BTC [+]
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Oct 31 03:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00046553 = 4.6553 BTC [+]
Oct 31 03:38:39 <knotwork>	on seeing pyMPEx or some such script I immediately thought aha thats one way of making it convenient for suckers to sign a key
Oct 31 03:39:09 <BTC-Mining>	You can if you want gpg to not ask if you trust MPEx's key... If you're going to use MPEx, I don't see why not sign that you trust that key.
Oct 31 03:39:15 <knotwork>	BTC-M, its always crypted FROM a private key TO a public one
Oct 31 03:39:31 <smickles>	oh yeah, it askes you to sign it, doesn't it
Oct 31 03:39:43 <knotwork>	you have to know whose private key sent it to know whose public key to use with your own private key to de-crypt it
Oct 31 03:39:56 <BTC-Mining>	It asks for it, although it's optional
Oct 31 03:40:27 <smickles>	knotwork: um, no. it's asymetrically encrypted
Oct 31 03:40:43 <smickles>	you don't have to know who sent it
Oct 31 03:40:44 <knotwork>	smick yes you are getting people who do not know the guy to PGP sign the key in violation of PGP's own custom/theory/whatever that you should know the person first before singning their key
Oct 31 03:40:56 <knotwork>	smickles wrong word
Oct 31 03:41:20 <knotwork>	assymetric means, privkey/pubkey to crypt, pubkey/privkey to decrypt
Oct 31 03:41:32 <knotwork>	symmetric is where all you need know is a passphrase
Oct 31 03:41:51 <knotwork>	aka all you need know is a recipient-secret
Oct 31 03:42:04 <BTC-Mining>	You can encrypt with the public key for decrypting by the private key. And that's what you do with your clearsigned message befre sending it to MPEx
Oct 31 03:42:50 <knotwork>	you crypt with recipeints pubkey for decrypting by their privkey you mean?
Oct 31 03:42:52 <smickles>	afaik, mpex only knows who you are after it decrypts the message
Oct 31 03:43:03 <BTC-Mining>	Yes, that's what I mean
Oct 31 03:43:25 <BTC-Mining>	The queries you send to MPEx are ever known to MPEx and yourself only.
Oct 31 03:43:27 <smickles>	and they only know b/c you signed the message
Oct 31 03:43:48 <BTC-Mining>	Ah yes.
Oct 31 03:43:58 <knotwork>	no I used normal crypt I believe, same as I would to send to anyone else
Oct 31 03:44:22 <knotwork>	thus only by knowing who sent it could anyone decrypt it, and even then only if it was to them
Oct 31 03:44:59 <knotwork>	though they could try every key they know to try to brute force find who sent it
Oct 31 03:45:11 <BTC-Mining>	Well, MPEx does not work that way it seems, and as such, I cannot help in that matter as to how to figure out the sender.
Oct 31 03:45:12 <knotwork>	if its to them, that would eventually work
Oct 31 03:45:42 <BTC-Mining>	Because really, that's basically all I know of gpg. My dealings with gribble for the OTC and MPEx
Oct 31 03:47:44 <smickles>	knotwork: so gpg -e -a -r 'bob' could only be decrypted by bob if he knew alice's key beforehand?
Oct 31 03:50:45 <knotwork>	ouch I just did gpg -e tmp.txt.asc and when I cat the resulting tmp.txt.asc.gpg its total binary
Oct 31 03:50:53 <smickles>	"To decrypt a message the option --decrypt is used. You need the private key to which the message was encrypted. Similar to the encryption process, the document to decrypt is input, and the decrypted result is output." from the handbook
Oct 31 03:50:55 <knotwork>	truly crypted!
Oct 31 03:51:05 <smickles>	says nothing about knowing the key of the sender
Oct 31 03:51:15 <knotwork>	I guess one normally also ascii-armours it when using it with email etc
Oct 31 03:52:10 <knotwork>	yes that is why I wanted to make a .gpg file, to look at it and see if it says like ---- message from gdgdhgdhh in PGP crypto ---- type thing
Oct 31 03:52:24 <knotwork>	that is, whether it says right there what ID sent it
Oct 31 03:53:15 <smickles>	that would leak info, and i'm sure it's designed not to do that
Oct 31 03:54:18 <knotwork>	hmm I am positive originally the whole basis of pubkey/privkey encryption was I use my privkey and your pubkey to send, you use my pubkey and your privkey to receive
Oct 31 03:54:53 <knotwork>	in the case where its an email, they keyring lookup of the From: email address tells you most likely ID to imagine must have sent it
Oct 31 03:54:56 <smickles>	knotwork: http://bitbin.it/5fNMIN4a
Oct 31 03:55:16 <smickles>	don't get my key, and see if you can decrypt that
Oct 31 03:55:30 <knotwork>	as webmaster@knotwork.com ?
Oct 31 03:55:33 <smickles>	yes
Oct 31 03:55:41 <smickles>	also, see if you can tell who it's from
Oct 31 03:55:50 <knotwork>	as webmaster@makemoney.knotwork.com I mean oops :)
Oct 31 03:56:03 <smickles>	yeah yeah, i assumet the makemoney part
Oct 31 03:56:05 <smickles>	;)
Oct 31 03:56:16 <knotwork>	I dont recall ever getting your key, but, my ring has sheetloads of keys somehow
Oct 31 03:56:42 <knotwork>	I think though they are from RetroShare storing RetroShare neighbors keys in there
Oct 31 03:58:28 <knotwork>	hmmm "only you can prevent forest fires" ?
Oct 31 03:58:42 <smickles>	yup
Oct 31 03:58:50 <BTC-Mining>	hmm, makemoney.knotwork.com brings to a network solutions parked page.
Oct 31 03:59:12 <knotwork>	BTC-M, use archive.org's wayback machine
Oct 31 03:59:36 <knotwork>	I dont bother hosting my old sites since they host them adequately enough for my purposes free
Oct 31 03:59:41 <smickles>	knotwork: and you wouldn't have known if was from me unless i told you, right?
Oct 31 04:00:05 <knotwork>	smick I am not convinced
Oct 31 04:00:25 <knotwork>	I suspect it did find some kind of fingerprint or something there
Oct 31 04:00:42 <knotwork>	and then without even asking me maybe went to a keyserver and got your pubkey
Oct 31 04:00:54 <smickles>	we can test that second one easy
Oct 31 04:01:02 <BTC-Mining>	and somehow, the parking ads algorythm feel it's appropriate matches are urban myth, bible study, ancient greece, greek mythology, personification poems and a few others...
Oct 31 04:01:02 <knotwork>	I would not be surprised if my ~/.gpg now knows your pubkey
Oct 31 04:01:45 <knotwork>	keyservers answer queries about fignerprints too not only about email addresses
Oct 31 04:01:46 <smickles>	also, if you trust my word, i can tell you that i did not unlock my privkey to encrypt that message
Oct 31 04:02:01 <smickles>	knotwork: this test will reveal wheter or not you have my pub key
Oct 31 04:02:09 <knotwork>	ahh you used a special kind of send!
Oct 31 04:02:12 <BTC-Mining>	Wow.... efficient parking ads indeed... not sure how it was targeted as such.
Oct 31 04:02:31 <knotwork>	maybe the one BTC-M mentioned, where you maybe used my pubkey or something?
Oct 31 04:02:38 <smickles>	http://bitbin.it/uxloXJ8f
Oct 31 04:02:42 <smickles>	verify that
Oct 31 04:03:00 <smickles>	knotwork: no special kind of send
Oct 31 04:03:00 <knotwork>	what gpg options did you use that first time? not merely -e -a presumably?
Oct 31 04:03:08 <smickles>	just gpg -e -a -r 'you'
Oct 31 04:03:22 <knotwork>	oh also though, GPG remembers your phrases 5 minutes or somesuch
Oct 31 04:03:36 <smickles>	or gpg --encrypt --armor --receipiant 'you'
Oct 31 04:03:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00046553 = 15.6418 BTC [+]
Oct 31 04:03:39 <knotwork>	I have not had to enter mine for several minutes since last time I did use it
Oct 31 04:03:57 <smickles>	knotwork: i can assure you my priv key was not used to encrypt that data to you
Oct 31 04:04:27 <knotwork>	so what was used then?
Oct 31 04:04:37 <smickles>	yup
Oct 31 04:04:37 <knotwork>	just my pubkey?
Oct 31 04:04:42 <smickles>	just you pubkey
Oct 31 04:04:52 <smickles>	which i gleaned from a pubkey server
Oct 31 04:04:57 <knotwork>	so it was symmetric crypt
Oct 31 04:05:16 <knotwork>	just like when Open Transactions crypts a purse to a passphrases
Oct 31 04:05:20 <smickles>	i didn't use any passphrase, and i can't decrypt that
Oct 31 04:05:43 <knotwork>	you maybe used my pubkey like a purse-to-passphrase symmetric
Oct 31 04:05:47 <smickles>	it was not symmetric
Oct 31 04:06:07 <smickles>	symmetric would have required the --symmetric otpion
Oct 31 04:06:12 <smickles>	*option
Oct 31 04:06:20 <BTC-Mining>	smickles: I got which key it was certified with, although software tells me I can't verify the signature because there's no public certificate to verify it.
Oct 31 04:06:23 <smickles>	and required me to enter a passphrase
Oct 31 04:06:26 <BTC-Mining>	signed with*
Oct 31 04:06:30 <smickles>	for the encryption itself
Oct 31 04:06:52 <BTC-Mining>	along with the date of the signature
Oct 31 04:07:00 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: when verifying that signed one?
Oct 31 04:07:08 <knotwork>	Confidentiality
Oct 31 04:07:08 <knotwork>	PGP can be used to send messages confidentially. For this, PGP combines symmetric-key encryption and public-key encryption. The message is encrypted using a symmetric encryption algorithm, which requires a symmetric key. Each symmetric key is used only once and is also called a session key. The session key is protected by encrypting it with the receiver's public key thus ensuring that only the receiver can decrypt the session key. The encry
Oct 31 04:07:08 <knotwork>	pted message along with the encrypted session key is sent to the receiver.
Oct 31 04:07:50 <BTC-Mining>	yes
Oct 31 04:08:14 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: yes, it tells you what pubkey to find in order to verify signed messages
Oct 31 04:08:25 <smickles>	knotwork: i guess i've just been in userland too long
Oct 31 04:09:09 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: that's how mpex identifies who sent the message
Oct 31 04:09:22 <BTC-Mining>	Aye.
Oct 31 04:10:05 <BTC-Mining>	So...
Oct 31 04:10:14 <smickles>	the neat thing is you can use a key that has never been on the internet, and because mpex (and only mpex) has a record of it, it still works
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Oct 31 04:10:36 <knotwork>	well maybe it works much less complexly than I always thought it did
Oct 31 04:10:42 <smickles>	*mpex has the only record of the pub key, that is
Oct 31 04:10:56 <BTC-Mining>	knotwork, it would seem so.
Oct 31 04:11:12 <knotwork>	maybe its just individual pairs that are needed, one person's pubkey crypts things only that person's privkey can decrypt
Oct 31 04:11:15 <smickles>	it was designed to be simple
Oct 31 04:11:21 <smickles>	iirc
Oct 31 04:11:24 <BTC-Mining>	Basically, you can always know the key, it all depends on if you trust it or not.
Oct 31 04:12:02 <knotwork>	I always thought it took two, so that for any given privA,pubB only privB,pubA could decrypt
Oct 31 04:12:44 <BTC-Mining>	I think that's an actual option... if two parties wish to go that way.
Oct 31 04:13:05 <knotwork>	that is, I thought once you crypt a message TO someone else, even you the sender cannot decrypt it
Oct 31 04:13:05 <BTC-Mining>	It's just not gpg apparently.
Oct 31 04:13:16 <smickles>	knotwork: if you and i had a secret word, we could use it w/o pub keys at all
Oct 31 04:13:20 <knotwork>	oh wait thats still true
Oct 31 04:13:55 <smickles>	yeah, if i crypt a message to you, i can't decrypt it
Oct 31 04:14:13 <knotwork>	so GPG only needs to look up sender's key to check their signature, not to decrypt what they sent
Oct 31 04:14:26 <BTC-Mining>	So simple, but just as private. So long as each party trust the other's key.
Oct 31 04:14:44 <knotwork>	damn its weaker than I thought
Oct 31 04:15:17 <smickles>	http://bitbin.it/AedZcXFE
Oct 31 04:15:22 <knotwork>	I thought police need to know sender's pubkey as well as receiver's privkey in order to decode an intercepted message
Oct 31 04:15:23 <BTC-Mining>	It's actually strong...
Oct 31 04:15:40 <smickles>	you should be able to decrypt that one with 'knaughtwork'
Oct 31 04:15:58 <BTC-Mining>	Well not in that sense... You'd only need the receiver's private key.
Oct 31 04:16:22 <knotwork>	so even if someone stole the recipient's privkey, they still could not decode what I sent until they figured out my pubkey
Oct 31 04:16:49 <BTC-Mining>	But this privA,pubB / privB,pubA key pair schemes exist I believe. I just don't know what they're called.
Oct 31 04:16:56 <BTC-Mining>	If you really need it.
Oct 31 04:17:08 <knotwork>	yeah well we could simulate them too
Oct 31 04:17:18 <smickles>	there may even be a gpg option for it, who knows
Oct 31 04:17:29 <knotwork>	symmetric crypt to yourv own pubkey, then PGP crypt to recipient
Oct 31 04:17:50 <BTC-Mining>	I see gpg as an authenticating tool, not a tool for private conversations. Although it's probably sufficient for most private conversations...
Oct 31 04:18:02 <knotwork>	if recipient can figure out which pubkey sent it, they can symmetric decrypt it
Oct 31 04:21:55 <smickles>	symmetric crypt your pubkey with the pubkey's fingerprint?
Oct 31 04:22:35 <BTC-Mining>	In any case... off I go. Goodbye.
Oct 31 04:23:16 <BTC-Mining>	smickles, by the way...
Oct 31 04:23:24 <BTC-Mining>	What's this monopoly thing?
Oct 31 04:23:38 <smickles>	#bitcoin-monopoly
Oct 31 04:24:13 <smickles>	there's an open standard monopoly server/client ecosystem
Oct 31 04:24:25 <BTC-Mining>	ah
Oct 31 04:24:34 <smickles>	some of us play it with a btc buyin
Oct 31 04:24:44 <BTC-Mining>	Interesting
Oct 31 04:24:52 <BTC-Mining>	I'll see about that another day tho
Oct 31 04:24:58 <smickles>	it is late
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Oct 31 09:09:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29385 @ 0.00046046 = 13.5306 BTC [+]
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Oct 31 09:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9413 @ 0.00046345 = 4.3625 BTC [+]
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Oct 31 10:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12168 @ 0.00045917 = 5.5872 BTC [-]
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Oct 31 10:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10386 @ 0.00045917 = 4.7689 BTC [-]
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Oct 31 10:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00046048 = 2.7629 BTC [+]
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Oct 31 11:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15610 @ 0.00045917 = 7.1676 BTC [-]
Oct 31 11:11:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26454 @ 0.00045859 = 12.1315 BTC [-]
Oct 31 11:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2036 @ 0.00045853 = 0.9336 BTC [-]
Oct 31 11:14:26 <kakobrekla>	btw, Bit4X; Open a Live account by the end of 2012 and recieve a 5 BTC bonus!
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Oct 31 11:30:43 <EskimoBob>	url?
Oct 31 11:32:49 <EskimoBob>	"selected leverage" mamamama? what is that?
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Oct 31 11:34:56 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Oct 31 11:35:08 <kakobrekla>	you got them listed below
Oct 31 11:36:43 <EskimoBob>	"When you open a Live account a 5 BTC bonus will be awarded to your balance. In order to withdraw the bonus, one must have have closed at least 5 trades on the Live account."  :)
Oct 31 11:36:53 <EskimoBob>	:)
Oct 31 11:37:03 <EskimoBob>	yeah, I fond it
Oct 31 11:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28585 @ 0.00046048 = 13.1628 BTC [+]
Oct 31 11:37:44 <EskimoBob>	found*
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Oct 31 11:46:14 <kakobrekla>	yeah everyone so far managed to go through the first 5 trades even if they closed account later on
Oct 31 11:46:30 <kakobrekla>	so a simple way to stop bounty hunters :p
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Oct 31 11:57:32 <thestringpuller>	what is live?
Oct 31 11:58:28 <kakobrekla>	not demo.
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Oct 31 11:59:33 <thestringpuller>	live mpexx?
Oct 31 11:59:37 <thestringpuller>	mpex?*
Oct 31 11:59:54 <kakobrekla>	http://bit4x.com/
Oct 31 12:02:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2959 @ 0.00046048 = 1.3626 BTC [+]
Oct 31 12:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41194 @ 0.0004606 = 18.974 BTC [+]
Oct 31 12:03:15 <thestringpuller>	a girl i used to be in love with told me to never speculate in foreing currencies
Oct 31 12:04:12 <kakobrekla>	a girl i used to be in love with told me pack your bags.
Oct 31 12:05:11 <kakobrekla>	accualy i dont love, i just like.
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Oct 31 12:27:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1139 @ 0.0004606 = 0.5246 BTC [+]
Oct 31 12:27:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14861 @ 0.00046355 = 6.8888 BTC [+]
Oct 31 12:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	Some user used an SQLi to get into the System and stole the API keys from the users.
Oct 31 12:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	I will be honest:
Oct 31 12:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	He used the http://bitcoin-24.com/EUR/trades.json to get into the System.
Oct 31 12:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	this is nice
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Oct 31 12:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26539 @ 0.00046355 = 12.3022 BTC [+]
Oct 31 12:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15961 @ 0.0004636 = 7.3995 BTC [+]
Oct 31 13:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	so who wanted to play monopoly yest ? smickles ? thestringpuller ?
Oct 31 13:05:57 *	Gladamas_ is now known as Gladamas
Oct 31 13:08:25 <kakobrekla>	for btc?
Oct 31 13:08:28 <kakobrekla>	how do you play that
Oct 31 13:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno they were asking me yest ?
Oct 31 13:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	i wanted to check it out
Oct 31 13:09:55 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: #bitcoin-monopoly
Oct 31 13:10:04 <Anduck>	we've gathered people there who wants to play monopoly
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Oct 31 13:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
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Oct 31 13:13:07 <kakobrekla>	play money or virtual money?
Oct 31 13:13:09 <kakobrekla>	:>
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Oct 31 13:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	sadly it takes some download
Oct 31 13:13:35 <Anduck>	monopoly itself is via client-server but we sometimes to btc buy-in, winner winning all
Oct 31 13:13:42 <Anduck>	yeah its for linux/mac/windows
Oct 31 13:13:51 <Anduck>	do*
Oct 31 13:14:01 <kakobrekla>	what the avg game lenght
Oct 31 13:14:05 <kakobrekla>	whats
Oct 31 13:14:17 <Anduck>	it varies, 30-60min
Oct 31 13:14:19 <Anduck>	usually less
Oct 31 13:14:38 <kakobrekla>	dafuq, it took hours in rl
Oct 31 13:14:42 <kakobrekla>	even days sometimes
Oct 31 13:14:44 <copumpkin>	lol
Oct 31 13:14:53 <Anduck>	well if everyone plays without afking it's fast
Oct 31 13:15:00 <Anduck>	if someone goes afk after his turn it will take long =D
Oct 31 13:15:02 <copumpkin>	a fking what?
Oct 31 13:15:18 <Anduck>	copumpkin btw i did get banned for practicly no reason
Oct 31 13:15:22 <Anduck>	just fyi
Oct 31 13:15:43 <Anduck>	did not yell or claim anything to him via pm, it's nonsense
Oct 31 13:16:08 <copumpkin>	talk to nanotube about it
Oct 31 13:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	you got banned in monopoly ?!
Oct 31 13:16:26 <Anduck>	at -otc
Oct 31 13:16:27 <Anduck>	lol
Oct 31 13:16:27 <Anduck>	copumpkin: i will.
Oct 31 13:16:53 <Anduck>	it's just sad he's humiliating me there. and my friends, too
Oct 31 13:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	who ?
Oct 31 13:17:04 <Anduck>	"let's ban the kids" and bans 3 more guys
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Oct 31 13:17:08 <Anduck>	gmaxwell...
Oct 31 13:17:12 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Oct 31 13:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated gmaxwell
Oct 31 13:17:16 <gribble>	You rated user gmaxwell on Sun Apr  8 09:54:19 2012, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: hypocritical idiot..
Oct 31 13:17:22 <mircea_popescu>	ymmv.
Oct 31 13:17:42 <copumpkin>	hmhnv
Oct 31 13:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23279 @ 0.00045922 = 10.6902 BTC [-]
Oct 31 13:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25921 @ 0.00045853 = 11.8856 BTC [-]
Oct 31 13:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;google hmhnv
Oct 31 13:18:25 <gribble>	Muqaatil bin Hayyaan (d. 150H) - AboveTheThrone.Com: <http://www.abovethethrone.com/arsh/articles/hmhnv-muqaatil-bin-hayyaan-d-150h-the-meaning-of-al-baatin-is-the-closest-to-everything-with-his-knowledge-whilst-he-is-above-his-throne.cfm>; nevada - MesoWest - University of Utah: <http://mesowest.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/stn_state.cgi?state=NV>; Philippe geubels - free download - (1 more message)
Oct 31 13:18:39 <mircea_popescu>	islam ?!
Oct 31 13:18:46 <copumpkin>	I'm a secret imam
Oct 31 13:18:57 <copumpkin>	(his mileage has not varied)
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Oct 31 13:34:34 <thestringpuller>	;;rate mircea_popescu 3 market hacker
Oct 31 13:34:35 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
Oct 31 13:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	im a market hacker and im ok
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Oct 31 13:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	i hack all night and i hack all day
Oct 31 13:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	i cut down btc, i wear high heels, suspenders aaand a braa
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Oct 31 13:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24427 @ 0.00045853 = 11.2005 BTC [-]
Oct 31 13:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23895 @ 0.00045811 = 10.9465 BTC [-]
Oct 31 13:48:03 <pigeons>	today's investment: https://btcjam.com/listings/299
Oct 31 13:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	i like the plural.
Oct 31 13:49:57 <thestringpuller>	plural*
Oct 31 13:49:59 <thestringpuller>	?*
Oct 31 13:50:05 <thestringpuller>	possessive you mean
Oct 31 13:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	of an ex wife
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Oct 31 13:58:38 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: do you think educationis welfare?
Oct 31 13:58:52 <thestringpuller>	public education*
Oct 31 13:59:12 <mircea_popescu>	i think education that does not include regular beating is an exercise in stupidity indistinguishable from welfare.
Oct 31 13:59:52 <Diablo-D3>	violence is not the answer, mircea_popescu.
Oct 31 14:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	oyesitis.
Oct 31 14:01:19 <mircea_popescu>	make a rule that all kids scoring in the last quartile of their class take ten across the buttocks
Oct 31 14:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	and get out of the way of sat scores explosion
Oct 31 14:01:50 <Diablo-D3>	not at all
Oct 31 14:02:13 <Diablo-D3>	tests do not work.
Oct 31 14:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	right right.
Oct 31 14:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	that's why the chinese have taken over the past 20 years
Oct 31 14:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	because tests don't work.
Oct 31 14:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	an' violence is not the answer
Oct 31 14:04:02 <Diablo-D3>	well, then you have to actually quantify what "china taking over" is
Oct 31 14:04:15 <Diablo-D3>	because remember, they owe the federal reserve more money than the US government owes china
Oct 31 14:04:45 <mircea_popescu>	eh ?
Oct 31 14:04:59 <Diablo-D3>	yes, most of the money china loaned us, the federal reserve loaned them
Oct 31 14:05:01 <mircea_popescu>	look around the house for some item made in the us.
Oct 31 14:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	and stop believing the bs.
Oct 31 14:05:28 <Diablo-D3>	okay, so they make shit, so what?
Oct 31 14:05:28 <copumpkin>	I'm not sure the US education system is trying to optimize for "made in the US"
Oct 31 14:05:35 <copumpkin>	not that I think it's all that great, either
Oct 31 14:05:35 <Diablo-D3>	copumpkin: this is true
Oct 31 14:05:42 <copumpkin>	it just doesn't seem like a particularly meaningful metric to measure by
Oct 31 14:05:42 <Diablo-D3>	its optimizing for "the US owns the company who made it"
Oct 31 14:05:48 <Diablo-D3>	we outsourced slavery to China
Oct 31 14:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin are you familiar with how archeologists score dominance in the field ?
Oct 31 14:05:56 <Diablo-D3>	plain and simple
Oct 31 14:05:59 <copumpkin>	nope
Oct 31 14:06:08 <mircea_popescu>	they simply count the objects found.
Oct 31 14:06:12 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: okay, so the jews were dominant in egypt?
Oct 31 14:06:13 <copumpkin>	okay...
Oct 31 14:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	more roman, less celtic ? romans owned celts.
Oct 31 14:06:17 <Diablo-D3>	they built the pyramids after all.
Oct 31 14:06:25 <copumpkin>	and…? :P
Oct 31 14:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	and thus taking over.
Oct 31 14:06:41 <copumpkin>	meh :P
Oct 31 14:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	hey.
Oct 31 14:06:54 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu thinks he knows things, how cute
Oct 31 14:07:00 <copumpkin>	they do it that way presumably for lack of better data
Oct 31 14:07:05 <Diablo-D3>	go back to "beating" your "women", and by that, I mean posting images and saying its you.
Oct 31 14:07:07 <copumpkin>	I don't really care what archeologists will think
Oct 31 14:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin you're welcome to show your preferred data is better.
Oct 31 14:07:31 <Diablo-D3>	unfortunately, the time of archaeologists is over
Oct 31 14:07:36 <copumpkin>	if we pay a bunch of poor laotians to make our sweaters, and all our sweaters are made in laos, that doesn't mean laos is taking over
Oct 31 14:07:40 <copumpkin>	it means they're cheaper
Oct 31 14:07:43 <Diablo-D3>	too much data from this time period will permanently recorded
Oct 31 14:07:50 <copumpkin>	it also doesn't mean they're better educated
Oct 31 14:07:54 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin did you just take a system, posit that it's wrong and thus proved it being wrong ?
Oct 31 14:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	cause im starting to dislike british education too by this measure.
Oct 31 14:08:16 <copumpkin>	nope, I thought you were advocating doing that?
Oct 31 14:08:26 <copumpkin>	I wasn't educated in the british system
Oct 31 14:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	i said the chinese were taking over, asked how do i measure this i showed how i measure it.
Oct 31 14:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9548 @ 0.0004619 = 4.4102 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	the system as presented stands. inconvenient as that may be ideologically.
Oct 31 14:08:49 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: yeah, and I just pointed out that it sounds silly with my laotian example
Oct 31 14:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see it sounds silly.
Oct 31 14:09:02 <pigeons>	moar child beating!
Oct 31 14:09:06 *	copumpkin shrugs
Oct 31 14:09:29 <Diablo-D3>	I dont want to beat children
Oct 31 14:09:33 <Diablo-D3>	just adult women
Oct 31 14:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	but i;'dbe very interested to hear mopre about this "us ultimately owns the money, and it lent it to china for china to lend it back"
Oct 31 14:09:40 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, delicious boobs, om nom nom
Oct 31 14:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	it was really delicious dmc-level of thinking.
Oct 31 14:09:53 <copumpkin>	did I say that?
Oct 31 14:09:56 <copumpkin>	or is Diablo talking?
Oct 31 14:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	no, Diablo-D3
Oct 31 14:09:59 <copumpkin>	oh okay
Oct 31 14:10:00 <copumpkin>	:P
Oct 31 14:10:06 <mircea_popescu>	you're missing out :p
Oct 31 14:10:20 *	copumpkin unmissed out
Oct 31 14:10:41 *	copumpkin beats pigeons 
Oct 31 14:10:46 <copumpkin>	Dr. Dre Beats?
Oct 31 14:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	also we should ignore pigeons he's a troll
Oct 31 14:10:49 <copumpkin>	what does he beat
Oct 31 14:10:52 <copumpkin>	he beats your ears?
Oct 31 14:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	he beats your wife so you don't have to
Oct 31 14:11:02 <copumpkin>	I wonder what his doctorate is in
Oct 31 14:11:09 <copumpkin>	it'd be funny if someone awarded him an honorary one
Oct 31 14:11:19 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: but I don't have a wife!
Oct 31 14:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	he has a doctorate in gravity
Oct 31 14:11:45 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin even better, imagine the expense and difficulty of beating the wife you don';t even have. dr. dre got your ass!
Oct 31 14:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	covered, i mean.
Oct 31 14:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e
Oct 31 14:11:59 <copumpkin>	good point
Oct 31 14:12:03 <copumpkin>	alright, I approve
Oct 31 14:12:08 <copumpkin>	I'm gonna go buy some of his beats
Oct 31 14:12:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: okay so
Oct 31 14:12:17 <Diablo-D3>	by your reasoning
Oct 31 14:12:31 <copumpkin>	I'm making beef jerky
Oct 31 14:12:33 <Diablo-D3>	black people, fresh off the boat from africa, were dominant in the south before the civil war
Oct 31 14:12:38 <Diablo-D3>	since they did all the work
Oct 31 14:12:45 <copumpkin>	Diablo-D3: don't you usually use another word for them?
Oct 31 14:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	did all the work != made all the itams
Oct 31 14:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	you need to stop glossing when trying to think, it's unseemly.
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Oct 31 14:13:17 <Diablo-D3>	copumpkin: no, I reserve that word for the black people who bring up that their ancestors were such and that it means something in their daily lives
Oct 31 14:13:25 <copumpkin>	oh, I see!
Oct 31 14:13:35 <copumpkin>	makes perfect sense, carry on
Oct 31 14:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	he's not racist, he's culturally-aware debateist
Oct 31 14:13:42 <copumpkin>	yeah
Oct 31 14:14:15 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: okay so, the black slaves _did_ do all the work and make all the items
Oct 31 14:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	what such items ?
Oct 31 14:14:28 <copumpkin>	wooden dildos
Oct 31 14:14:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 31 14:14:51 <Diablo-D3>	all food was handled by slaves, from the fields to the dinner table.
Oct 31 14:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	they made pretty decent music, which would count as an item for this conversation, except it wasn't valued at the time. arguably that gives them a leg to stand on
Oct 31 14:15:20 <Diablo-D3>	food is the single largest industry in the world, and has been so for the past 6000 years.
Oct 31 14:15:22 <mircea_popescu>	hence all the current attention being paid to niggers in the us.
Oct 31 14:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	food is however not much of an item in this discussion
Oct 31 14:15:53 <Diablo-D3>	so the _single largest industry in the world_ is not viable for this discussion? the hell?
Oct 31 14:16:02 <Diablo-D3>	thats some republican style debating going on there.
Oct 31 14:16:13 <mircea_popescu>	but you understand what we're discussing right ?
Oct 31 14:16:28 <Diablo-D3>	yes, we're discussing if china is dominant or not
Oct 31 14:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Oct 31 14:16:44 <Diablo-D3>	and Im of the camp that they're not, not when they owe us that much money
Oct 31 14:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	now, in china iron pots and pans handle most of the food
Oct 31 14:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	does this mean the evil empire of iron pots is dominant in china ?
Oct 31 14:17:01 <pigeons>	always seems to be an intelligent discussion when the n word is used
Oct 31 14:17:14 <copumpkin>	yup
Oct 31 14:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you know the knights of ni sketch ?
Oct 31 14:17:25 <pigeons>	yep
Oct 31 14:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	ever considered it's a reference ?
Oct 31 14:17:35 <Diablo-D3>	china's GDP is $11 trillion, they owe us around twice that.
Oct 31 14:17:43 <Diablo-D3>	(thats a little over $8k per capita, btw)
Oct 31 14:18:01 <pigeons>	i love monty python too but i dont pretend it makes calling people that name any less silly
Oct 31 14:18:28 <Diablo-D3>	so either they're our slave labor (at worst) or we just own all the major exporting companies (at best)
Oct 31 14:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	you know china holds about 1.2 trillion right ?
Oct 31 14:18:42 <copumpkin>	china also makes baijiu
Oct 31 14:18:45 <copumpkin>	really tasty liquor
Oct 31 14:18:59 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yes, so? they owe us around twice their GDP.
Oct 31 14:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	actually as it stands right now, the chinese own more of the us than americans do.
Oct 31 14:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	by a wide margin.
Oct 31 14:19:11 <Diablo-D3>	anything china owns in us, we own by default.
Oct 31 14:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	...
Oct 31 14:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	fascinating.
Oct 31 14:19:38 <Diablo-D3>	now, if they were to pay what they owe, yes, you would have a legitimate argument
Oct 31 14:20:40 <Diablo-D3>	now, normally I would say our investment in their country was a good one, except the federal reserve did it without foreknowledge of congress or the treasury or the president.
Oct 31 14:21:06 <Diablo-D3>	technically, congress could force china to pay back the entire amount now since the contract may not have been legal to begin with.
Oct 31 14:21:22 <Diablo-D3>	I would rather go for a debt swap however. they owe us slightly more than we owe them.
Oct 31 14:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	o rly ?
Oct 31 14:21:39 <Diablo-D3>	it would collapse the chinese economy, but thats not my problem.
Oct 31 14:22:37 <Diablo-D3>	they make about 5% annually on the trade difference due to the debt, or about $1.1 trillion a year.
Oct 31 14:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	i happen to think this conversation is a great argument for educational brutality.
Oct 31 14:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	and i do mean brutality.
Oct 31 14:24:45 *	copumpkin places a spiked baseball bat at the midpoint of mircea_popescu and Diablo-D3 
Oct 31 14:25:01 <mircea_popescu>	nah, i can't be bothered to do it myself.
Oct 31 14:25:12 <copumpkin>	you'd better, or he'll do it to you
Oct 31 14:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	but i imagine a correct solution would be something like, make further endowments dependent on beatings documentation.
Oct 31 14:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	we're not equals.
Oct 31 14:27:35 <pigeons>	NO U
Oct 31 14:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	so there you have it thestringpuller. happy nao ?
Oct 31 14:29:20 <copumpkin>	we need to get Luke-Jr into this
Oct 31 14:32:17 *	jurov has dutifully read the scrollback since midnight.. it took some 2hrs :(
Oct 31 14:33:15 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Oct 31 14:33:17 <jurov>	wtf i just did
Oct 31 14:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	do you feel enriched nao ?
Oct 31 14:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3561 @ 0.0004636 = 1.6509 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:27 <jurov>	can't exactly name it
Oct 31 14:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25878 @ 0.0004636 = 11.997 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00046437 = 14.349 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26190 @ 0.00046532 = 12.1867 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00046553 = 0.7914 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00046819 = 5.1969 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	well i put most of it on my blog, too
Oct 31 14:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00047029 = 10.9107 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35700 @ 0.00047077 = 16.8065 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0004739 = 3.649 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22622 @ 0.00048788 = 11.0368 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	if you feel like you need to re-read
Oct 31 14:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00048934 = 2.7403 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00049999 = 4.9999 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:36:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 199410 @ 0.0005 = 99.705 BTC [+]
Oct 31 14:37:08 <jurov>	MUST...RESIST...
Oct 31 14:38:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 31 14:38:51 <jurov>	in similar situation i'd prolly just start to troll btc-mining or fell asleep
Oct 31 14:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	i am made of steel.
Oct 31 14:39:17 <jurov>	couldn't believe how it went on and on
Oct 31 14:39:54 <mircea_popescu>	good future investment, people can just be given a link
Oct 31 14:43:03 <jurov>	i think i'll bring it to next level and start tvtropes page about trilema blog...
Oct 31 14:43:27 <jurov>	and about this chan
Oct 31 14:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Oct 31 14:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	i am a great fan of tvtropes btw
Oct 31 14:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	iirc when a girl pointed that site to me i got lost in there for 30 hours
Oct 31 14:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	prolly read 500k words
Oct 31 14:45:54 <jurov>	you see. then, when some dispute is imminent, just hand'em this combined trilema/tvtropes tranquilizer
Oct 31 14:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaaha
Oct 31 14:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	i need a soup nazi
Oct 31 14:47:44 <jurov>	MPOE-PR: Trope namer :DDDD
Oct 31 14:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Oct 31 14:48:34 <mircea_popescu>	an ACTUAL girl on the internet that everybody talks to as if it were some guy.
Oct 31 14:48:59 <mircea_popescu>	in spite of her right boob flippantly falling out of her blouse
Oct 31 14:50:13 <Diablo-D3>	fucking tvtropes
Oct 31 14:50:25 <thestringpuller>	she is hot as shit
Oct 31 14:50:32 <thestringpuller>	but she is mean
Oct 31 14:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	those two seem to go together don't they
Oct 31 14:50:43 <thestringpuller>	no one likes a mean girl :$
Oct 31 14:50:46 <thestringpuller>	:(
Oct 31 14:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	i like mean girls.
Oct 31 14:51:17 <thestringpuller>	my aunt was a mean girl
Oct 31 14:51:25 <thestringpuller>	her children are scarred
Oct 31 14:51:29 <thestringpuller>	:P
Oct 31 14:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	fuck the children.
Oct 31 14:51:52 <thestringpuller>	you dont have any children do you?
Oct 31 14:51:57 <thestringpuller>	;)
Oct 31 14:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Oct 31 14:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like chronos.
Oct 31 14:52:43 <thestringpuller>	or spike spiegal
Oct 31 14:52:48 <thestringpuller>	"i hate kids"
Oct 31 14:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	i don't hate them, they just don't pay enough to be bothered.
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Oct 31 14:57:30 <pigeons>	chronos had a son
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Oct 31 15:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	eventually.
Oct 31 15:00:38 <mircea_popescu>	guy ended up teh master of the universe, too.
Oct 31 15:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	i think that's informative.
Oct 31 15:01:28 <pigeons>	yeah his son did. but some say zeus castrated chronos like chronos did to uranus
Oct 31 15:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00048 = 8.64 BTC [-]
Oct 31 15:01:56 <mircea_popescu>	a well. ballz are overrated :D
Oct 31 15:07:34 <kakobrekla>	hehe http://www.room77.de/
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Oct 31 15:10:22 <mircea_popescu>	what's that, german scat club ?
Oct 31 15:10:31 <kakobrekla>	http://www.npr.org/2012/06/01/154140277/berlin-restaurant-experiments-with-virtual-currency
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Oct 31 15:11:30 <thestringpuller>	lo
Oct 31 15:11:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
Oct 31 15:11:48 <thestringpuller>	whoa
Oct 31 15:11:54 <thestringpuller>	mooe stock is hot
Oct 31 15:11:59 <thestringpuller>	mpoe
Oct 31 15:12:15 <thestringpuller>	smickles: monopoly tonight?
Oct 31 15:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla o cool
Oct 31 15:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	gotta check it out next im there then!
Oct 31 15:13:13 <kakobrekla>	yup
Oct 31 15:16:31 <jurov>	live.coinbr.com looks epic nao :)
Oct 31 15:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Oct 31 15:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	epic ? it looks like it's about to blow omg
Oct 31 15:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	i don't want to sell more shares ;/
Oct 31 15:17:34 <kakobrekla>	i dont have any left :\
Oct 31 15:18:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82000 @ 0.0005 = 41 BTC [+]
Oct 31 15:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	haha i still have some left
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Oct 31 15:25:52 <jurov>	just computed value of my mpoe shares for first time in few months ... fuck i'm rich now!
Oct 31 15:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	haha wd .
Oct 31 15:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	i made some offer to forum ppls to get 10k share blocks a while back
Oct 31 15:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	some claimed but some didn't. a well :p
Oct 31 15:29:56 <jurov>	personal offers? completely missed that
Oct 31 15:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, it was a list of people.
Oct 31 15:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112694.0
Oct 31 15:39:55 <jurov>	all together, my IPO investment value multiplied ~ 24x in euros ... fucking can't believe it.
Oct 31 15:40:33 <thestringpuller>	yuuup
Oct 31 15:40:38 <thestringpuller>	congrats boys
Oct 31 15:40:50 <thestringpuller>	jurov
Oct 31 15:40:54 <thestringpuller>	broker man
Oct 31 15:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : mpoe.etf went up 1200% by the time it was dissolved.
Oct 31 15:41:10 <thestringpuller>	can i pm you and get broker advice?
Oct 31 15:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	and that was in btc
Oct 31 15:42:50 <jurov>	it clearly shows how inflationary currency those euros are
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Oct 31 15:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00048643 = 8.7071 BTC [-]
Oct 31 15:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00048554 = 10.6819 BTC [-]
Oct 31 15:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so.
Oct 31 15:45:24 <thestringpuller>	sell into the wall! lol
Oct 31 15:45:52 <mircea_popescu>	there's a wall ?
Oct 31 15:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	not really any wall.
Oct 31 15:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	i checked lol
Oct 31 15:46:20 <thestringpuller>	not anymore
Oct 31 15:46:22 <thestringpuller>	there was
Oct 31 15:46:52 <dub>	mircea_popescu: wat
Oct 31 15:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	dub hm ?
Oct 31 15:46:59 <dub>	you like gage?
Oct 31 15:47:08 <dub>	that dude is so fucking retarded it hurts
Oct 31 15:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	sooo ?
Oct 31 15:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons iirc threw a fit too. why do you all hate gage!
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Oct 31 15:48:45 <pigeons>	cause there is enough diareah on the forum, don't encourage more
Oct 31 15:51:32 <dub>	joel wins that forum clearly
Oct 31 15:51:46 <mircea_popescu>	Miscellaneous policy-based unjust factors such as 'withdrawal within the locus poenitentiae'
Oct 31 15:51:48 <dub>	loupgaroux is just a cronic masturbator, contradicts himself constantly
Oct 31 15:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	for fucks sake.
Oct 31 15:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	latin phrase "in locus poen" becomes within the locus on wikipedia
Oct 31 15:52:16 <mircea_popescu>	ITS IN PLACE OF
Oct 31 15:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	dub i like his posts stylistically.
Oct 31 15:53:06 <dub>	gage I get a distinct paranoid schizophrenic hillbilly signal from
Oct 31 15:53:49 <dub>	mircea_popescu: sure there is some wit to a few of his posts but he likes himself too much and really doesnt have a lot of depth
Oct 31 15:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.000475 = 1.425 BTC [-]
Oct 31 15:54:12 <dub>	he'll rant and rave on one subject and completely contradict himself in the next post
Oct 31 15:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	well a forum isn't really the venue for depth is it ?
Oct 31 15:54:57 <pigeons>	not if you reward retards
Oct 31 15:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	o come onh! i ruined btctalk, is that it ?
Oct 31 15:55:58 <dub>	haha yes!
Oct 31 15:56:13 <mircea_popescu>	i dun goofed nao :(
Oct 31 15:56:13 <dub>	also, CP
Oct 31 15:56:27 <mircea_popescu>	counterparty ? or the other cp ?
Oct 31 15:56:40 <dub>	channeling that ciuciu moron
Oct 31 15:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	what ever happened to him anyway ?
Oct 31 15:57:19 <pigeons>	i lost the password for that account
Oct 31 15:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	it's kinda funny when various internet entities who we are expected to treat like, you know, as if they were human beings, with rights and all
Oct 31 15:57:41 <mircea_popescu>	fail to survive as long as some 4chan thing
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Oct 31 16:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/12eoxg/bitcoins_market_cap_is_at_wellover_100million_and/c6ui5li
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Oct 31 16:19:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8820 @ 0.00048137 = 4.2457 BTC [+]
Oct 31 16:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26356 @ 0.00048792 = 12.8596 BTC [+]
Oct 31 16:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4924 @ 0.00049519 = 2.4383 BTC [+]
Oct 31 16:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1820 @ 0.00339944 = 6.187 BTC [+]
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Oct 31 16:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/12f27g/how_btcusd_options_fared_in_2012_graph_porn/ << in case anyone missed this
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Oct 31 16:45:38 <jurov>	nice, but the II., IV., VI. graphs suck, sorry
Oct 31 16:45:59 <jurov>	you can't compare the two depicted values
Oct 31 16:46:30 <jurov>	nor get at least approximate numbers off them
Oct 31 16:48:29 <jurov>	for example in II , can anyone guess to which weeks belong the two short position (red) spikes?
Oct 31 16:50:42 <jurov>	mircea, maybe you should outsource all graphing (nudge, wink)
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Oct 31 16:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	jurov um
Oct 31 16:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	are you working off the small versions or did you click the graphs ?
Oct 31 16:52:45 <jurov>	magnification help a bit, but only a bit
Oct 31 16:52:49 <jurov>	*helps
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Oct 31 16:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	but what's the problem exactly ?
Oct 31 16:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4199 @ 0.00048679 = 2.044 BTC [-]
Oct 31 16:55:52 <jurov>	nah, i don't feel like bitching today again, after that yesterday's letting off steam over jsonrpc :)
Oct 31 16:55:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Oct 31 16:56:07 <jurov>	if it bothers anyone else, please explain it to mircea
Oct 31 16:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	but as to "which week" : the simple way to interpolate 3d graphs is to look at the angle gain.
Oct 31 16:57:46 <mircea_popescu>	there's 140 px angle gain between front of front column and back of back column
Oct 31 16:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	making them weeks 20 and 25 respectively
Oct 31 16:58:45 *	jurov hits Alt-F2, kruler
Oct 31 16:59:12 <jurov>	okay
Oct 31 16:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	(the angle gain you see in the right hand edge of the graph)
Oct 31 16:59:43 <pigeons>	bah, not very accessible to the angle blind
Oct 31 17:00:01 <mircea_popescu>	ya well. supposedly 3d graphs look spiffier
Oct 31 17:02:52 <jurov>	supposedly it's also possible to make things both spiffy and clearly readable
Oct 31 17:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	well now that all depends.
Oct 31 17:08:36 <dub>	fuck I am old
Oct 31 17:09:02 <dub>	one 24 hour day at work and I'm broken
Oct 31 17:09:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00048528 = 1.4558 BTC [-]
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Oct 31 17:09:26 <dub>	in my youth I didn't need sleep at all :(
Oct 31 17:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	in my youth i didn't work.
Oct 31 17:12:45 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you dont work now
Oct 31 17:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Oct 31 17:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	4ever young
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Oct 31 17:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	but i do work.
Oct 31 17:13:31 <thestringpuller>	nuh uh
Oct 31 17:13:44 <thestringpuller>	you sit around in your playboy mansion and party
Oct 31 17:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	haha or that.
Oct 31 17:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	it is CEO work.
Oct 31 17:15:03 <thestringpuller>	so getting blowjobs from interns
Oct 31 17:15:08 <thestringpuller>	sounds like my kinda job
Oct 31 17:15:12 <thestringpuller>	where do i apply?
Oct 31 17:16:14 <jurov>	for intern?
Oct 31 17:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
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Oct 31 17:21:31 <smickles>	juzus fuck. How many banking websites am I going to encounter which want me to enter a password on a page like 'http://dumbshits-r-us.bank.com'
Oct 31 17:21:52 <smickles>	plaintext pw is no good people
Oct 31 17:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	they have javascript rsa
Oct 31 17:23:43 <mircea_popescu>	do not worry your prettyhead mr customer.
Oct 31 17:23:50 <smickles>	this site in question has no js on it
Oct 31 17:24:05 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's a joke, prolly insider
Oct 31 17:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	there's no js rsa
Oct 31 17:24:24 <smickles>	heh, got me
Oct 31 17:27:45 <thestringpuller>	smickles !
Oct 31 17:28:44 <smickles>	thestringpuller ™
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Oct 31 17:29:03 <thestringpuller>	monopoly tonight?
Oct 31 17:29:10 <thestringpuller>	lets get mircea in
Oct 31 17:29:21 <thestringpuller>	take all his money lol jkjk
Oct 31 17:29:30 <smickles>	sure :) you going to actually be awake?
Oct 31 17:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	i checked it out earlier, but... i ain't installing softwarez
Oct 31 17:30:45 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you don't have a laptop that has nothing valuable on it?
Oct 31 17:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	hm, that's a point. mk, lemme set something up.
Oct 31 17:34:01 <kakobrekla>	https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397309_548804025146742_258329982_n.jpg
Oct 31 17:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5197 @ 0.00048528 = 2.522 BTC [-]
Oct 31 17:35:24 <smickles>	really? people don't make meatloaf anymore?
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Oct 31 17:44:19 <smickles>	:D
Oct 31 17:45:03 *	smickles just took a ~20 line loop and created the same functionality in 4 lines :)
Oct 31 17:45:37 <smickles>	well, it's actually 6, but there are 2 extra lines for readability
Oct 31 17:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ok so listen, what's the website again ?
Oct 31 17:46:15 <smickles>	*the* website?
Oct 31 17:46:26 <smickles>	mpex.us ofc ;)
Oct 31 17:46:57 <smickles>	for monopoly? one sec
Oct 31 17:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Oct 31 17:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	haha cute :p
Oct 31 17:47:07 <smickles>	http://www.psmonopoly.com/download-monopoly
Oct 31 17:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Oct 31 17:47:13 <smickles>	it has the better client
Oct 31 17:47:15 <mircea_popescu>	be online in 10
Oct 31 17:49:04 <kakobrekla>	hm
Oct 31 17:49:13 <kakobrekla>	it if doenst require too much attention i can try as well
Oct 31 17:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	meh, it won't install and i dun have the patience to debug it.
Oct 31 17:52:17 <thestringpuller>	laaaaazy
Oct 31 17:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	hey, first time i touced windoze in years
Oct 31 17:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	i should get props
Oct 31 17:54:07 *	thestringpuller slow claps
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Oct 31 18:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00048551 = 11.5066 BTC [+]
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Oct 31 18:22:58 <smickles>	eww, windows :(
Oct 31 18:26:24 <thestringpuller>	people selling futures is doing this...
Oct 31 18:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19903 @ 0.00048528 = 9.6585 BTC [-]
Oct 31 18:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 443200 @ 0.0033845 = 1500.0104 BTC [-]
Oct 31 18:34:38 <smickles>	;;ticker
Oct 31 18:34:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.16861, Best ask: 11.17980, Bid-ask spread: 0.01119, Last trade: 11.16861, 24 hour volume: 38005.85903264, 24 hour low: 10.70543, 24 hour high: 11.18799, 24 hour vwap: 10.98574
Oct 31 18:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100N] 1000 @ 0.42679787 = 426.7979 BTC [+]
Oct 31 18:37:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110N] 800 @ 0.38438129 = 307.505 BTC [+]
Oct 31 18:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120N] 600 @ 0.35136273 = 210.8176 BTC [+]
Oct 31 18:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130N] 400 @ 0.32453329 = 129.8133 BTC [+]
Oct 31 18:37:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140N] 200 @ 0.3026916 = 60.5383 BTC [+]
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Oct 31 18:39:42 <smickles>	0_o
Oct 31 18:40:20 <smickles>	 <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 443200 @ 0.0033845 = 1500.0104 BTC [-]
Oct 31 18:40:35 <smickles>	is that gsdpt?
Oct 31 18:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	ugh.
Oct 31 18:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think i can look
Oct 31 18:46:23 <PsychoticBoy>	almost every asset issuer on GLBSE is taking btc and leaving
Oct 31 18:46:45 <dub>	they got btc back?
Oct 31 18:46:47 <PsychoticBoy>	since nefario never gonna give the asset info
Oct 31 18:47:01 <PsychoticBoy>	some people got btc back
Oct 31 18:47:08 <dub>	I thought only people that personally contacted nefario through some secret handshake process got btc
Oct 31 18:47:22 <dub>	s/secret handshake/reacharound/
Oct 31 18:47:35 <PsychoticBoy>	then nefario is a bigger fraud then estimated
Oct 31 18:48:01 <PsychoticBoy>	I live 200 km from him, maybe a visit?
Oct 31 18:48:27 <dub>	I'll contribute to your travel :)
Oct 31 18:48:33 <PsychoticBoy>	I give him a handshake PERSONALLY and he gives btc, deal
Oct 31 18:48:40 <dub>	send me a finger
Oct 31 18:48:53 <PsychoticBoy>	You get the arm ;)
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Oct 31 18:49:04 <dub>	then I can give myself that reacharound
Oct 31 18:49:15 <PsychoticBoy>	and thats for sure ;)
Oct 31 18:50:02 <PsychoticBoy>	I email`d him, I called him, no response
Oct 31 18:50:42 <PsychoticBoy>	had more than 2K btc worth of assets and more than 200 btc cash, where is it??????????????
Oct 31 18:51:20 <PsychoticBoy>	+ ABM and FDBF (+ assets)
Oct 31 18:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	sad.
Oct 31 18:51:38 <PsychoticBoy>	:(
Oct 31 18:51:54 <dub>	don't worry deadterra got paid
Oct 31 18:52:02 <dub>	oh and BTC-Mining
Oct 31 18:52:17 <thestringpuller>	PscyhoticBoy how many coins does your mining rig get you a day?
Oct 31 18:52:25 <PsychoticBoy>	sure, if you kneel
Oct 31 18:52:33 <PsychoticBoy>	but I am no ass licker
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Oct 31 18:53:15 <PsychoticBoy>	4-5 btc sringpuller (ABM only has 1 single the rst is personal)
Oct 31 18:53:43 <PsychoticBoy>	I have about 10Gh/s
Oct 31 18:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	im looking forward to 2015 or so, when asics have become well established, there's a few classic chip designs
Oct 31 18:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	and some people are running > 10k units in dc floors
Oct 31 18:54:30 <dub>	when DMC is up and running
Oct 31 18:54:34 <dub>	(lol)
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Oct 31 18:54:38 <mircea_popescu>	making yotahashes a reality
Oct 31 18:55:00 *	PsychoticBoy is laughing his fucking pant off
Oct 31 18:55:10 <PsychoticBoy>	s
Oct 31 18:55:25 <dub>	in 2015 eveyone will be panicing about worthless 1st gen asics because BFL will have a nanotube asic out in november
Oct 31 18:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	bfl makes it to 2015 ?
Oct 31 18:56:21 <PsychoticBoy>	sure thing is, this whole GLBSE, DMC, usagi and you name them I know more and you do too saga is kinda funny in a way
Oct 31 18:57:00 <dub>	it will generate 1.21yotahash and feed excess power it draws from the planck field back into the grid
Oct 31 18:57:28 <PsychoticBoy>	lolz
Oct 31 18:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	PsychoticBoy it is funny in at least two ways
Oct 31 18:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	one of them being, THAT GLBSE HAD JUST FINE CSS
Oct 31 18:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	and also, its own domain.
Oct 31 18:58:51 <PsychoticBoy>	coincedence? or scam?
Oct 31 18:58:57 <dub>	no cp though
Oct 31 18:59:04 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Oct 31 18:59:35 <PsychoticBoy>	cp is more for the hidden wiki ppl
Oct 31 19:00:09 <PsychoticBoy>	maybe its a good idea to add mpex to the hidden wiki
Oct 31 19:00:13 <PsychoticBoy>	lolz
Oct 31 19:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	o, the HIDDEN wiki
Oct 31 19:00:28 <PsychoticBoy>	just kiddin
Oct 31 19:00:39 <PsychoticBoy>	you know kid din
Oct 31 19:00:43 <PsychoticBoy>	lolz
Oct 31 19:00:50 <PsychoticBoy>	I have to stop drinking
Oct 31 19:01:01 <PsychoticBoy>	yes THE hidden wiki
Oct 31 19:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol he's having fun by himself.
Oct 31 19:01:36 <PsychoticBoy>	I am easly amused
Oct 31 19:02:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32099 @ 0.00048181 = 15.4656 BTC [-]
Oct 31 19:13:36 <thestringpuller>	in [4~ we trustcrytpography
Oct 31 19:13:41 <thestringpuller>	ugh!
Oct 31 19:13:47 <thestringpuller>	in cryptography we trust
Oct 31 19:13:51 <thestringpuller>	such lag in this starbucks
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Oct 31 19:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6401 @ 0.00048181 = 3.0841 BTC [-]
Oct 31 19:29:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11978 @ 0.00048137 = 5.7658 BTC [-]
Oct 31 19:29:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23921 @ 0.00048052 = 11.4945 BTC [-]
Oct 31 19:35:33 <thestringpuller>	i summom the mircea_popescu
Oct 31 19:35:41 <thestringpuller>	summon*
Oct 31 19:36:02 <thestringpuller>	and challenge thee to monopoly
Oct 31 19:36:52 <thestringpuller>	why the fuck are all the options gone
Oct 31 19:40:07 <thestringpuller>	smickles pm real quick
Oct 31 19:40:07 <jurov>	prolly bot is having vacation
Oct 31 19:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	gone ?
Oct 31 19:41:36 <thestringpuller>	y did a bunch just get bought?
Oct 31 19:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	for to has ?
Oct 31 19:43:29 <thestringpuller>	i smell conspiracy
Oct 31 19:43:54 <thestringpuller>	call me richard belzer
Oct 31 19:48:26 <smickles>	thestringpuller: there is occasionally a gap b/t when mircea's bot cancels its orders and replaces them at a new price
Oct 31 19:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	actually, bot puts quotes in with expiration times
Oct 31 19:49:36 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes it doesn't run fast enough and the orders expire before new orders being put in
Oct 31 19:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	(someother times it has two sets of orders in briefly)
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Oct 31 19:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27390 @ 0.00048052 = 13.1614 BTC [-]
Oct 31 19:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00047901 = 4.4548 BTC [-]
Oct 31 19:54:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3265 @ 0.00047668 = 1.5564 BTC [-]
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Oct 31 20:17:43 <jurov>	haha, unlike my attempts to cancel and quickly put new orders
Oct 31 20:19:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41935 @ 0.00047668 = 19.9896 BTC [-]
Oct 31 20:19:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1365 @ 0.00047666 = 0.6506 BTC [-]
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Oct 31 20:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00047666 = 8.3416 BTC [-]
Oct 31 20:47:21 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : they cancel automatically cause the bot places them with expiration set.
Oct 31 21:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20786 @ 0.00047859 = 9.948 BTC [+]
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Oct 31 21:37:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4114 @ 0.00047859 = 1.9689 BTC [+]
Oct 31 21:37:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1099 @ 0.00047821 = 0.5256 BTC [-]
Oct 31 21:39:46 <jurov>	yes, i cancelled tham manually
Oct 31 21:40:29 *	jurov reaped monthly brokerage fees and can go sleep
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Oct 31 22:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00047757 = 14.9002 BTC [-]
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Oct 31 22:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10956 @ 0.00047688 = 5.2247 BTC [-]
Oct 31 22:28:00 <thestringpuller>	smickles: monopoly soon?
Oct 31 22:28:04 <thestringpuller>	or is it beer night for you?
Oct 31 22:28:29 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Oct 31 22:28:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.11599, Best ask: 11.14877, Bid-ask spread: 0.03278, Last trade: 11.10000, 24 hour volume: 36706.69600914, 24 hour low: 10.81100, 24 hour high: 11.27900, 24 hour vwap: 11.06434
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Oct 31 22:49:26 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i'm usually able to play monopoly after i put my daughter to bed
Oct 31 22:50:26 <thestringpuller>	it's still early there?
Oct 31 22:50:42 <thestringpuller>	i want to be a parent :(
Oct 31 22:50:58 <smickles>	and that'll be at 04:00 utc
Oct 31 22:51:12 <smickles>	it's almost 8pm
Oct 31 22:51:39 <thestringpuller>	its almost 2 here
Oct 31 22:51:41 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Oct 31 22:52:07 <smickles>	thestringpuller: being a parent is very satifying :)
Oct 31 22:52:38 <thestringpuller>	and time consuming
Oct 31 22:52:43 <smickles>	i'm usually up until 9:00 utc anyway
Oct 31 22:52:45 <thestringpuller>	i barely have time to date
Oct 31 22:53:02 <thestringpuller>	you must be good at running on no sleep
Oct 31 22:53:16 <smickles>	naw, i wake up aroun 16:00
Oct 31 22:53:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15914 @ 0.00047757 = 7.6 BTC [+]
Oct 31 22:55:11 <smickles>	i'm not a single parent and my wife has a slightly different sleep schedule
Oct 31 22:55:16 <smickles>	it works :D
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Oct 31 23:11:08 <thestringpuller>	I lost the private key to 1nightDP
Oct 31 23:11:20 <thestringpuller>	well not lost the key, but lost a copy of it
Oct 31 23:11:27 <thestringpuller>	so it's floating out there on paper...
Oct 31 23:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7537 @ 0.00047776 = 3.6009 BTC [+]
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Oct 31 23:44:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1249 @ 0.00047776 = 0.5967 BTC [+]
Oct 31 23:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00047724 = 10.7379 BTC [-]
Oct 31 23:44:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12944 @ 0.00047688 = 6.1727 BTC [-]
Oct 31 23:44:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10635 @ 0.00047666 = 5.0693 BTC [-]
Oct 31 23:44:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2372 @ 0.00047594 = 1.1289 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 00:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00048243 = 3.0876 BTC [+]
Nov 01 00:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18314 @ 0.0004827 = 8.8402 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 00:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7061 @ 0.00048551 = 3.4282 BTC [+]
Nov 01 00:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23639 @ 0.00048573 = 11.4822 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 01:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00048304 = 3.0432 BTC [-]
Nov 01 01:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00048464 = 14.7331 BTC [+]
Nov 01 01:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00048464 = 7.2211 BTC [+]
Nov 01 01:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6129 @ 0.00048304 = 2.9606 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 02:18:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14257 @ 0.00048304 = 6.8867 BTC [-]
Nov 01 02:18:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30343 @ 0.00048205 = 14.6268 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 02:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6861 @ 0.00048573 = 3.3326 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 03:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00048803 = 5.3195 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 03:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00048803 = 4.3923 BTC [+]
Nov 01 03:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00048832 = 2.3439 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 04:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30320 @ 0.00049006 = 14.8586 BTC [+]
Nov 01 04:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7480 @ 0.00049099 = 3.6726 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 04:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	 http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/enhanced-buzz-wide-22152-1351692876-3.jpg
Nov 01 04:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda interesting
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Nov 01 04:25:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21248 @ 0.00049097 = 10.4321 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 04:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35100 @ 0.00048912 = 17.1681 BTC [-]
Nov 01 04:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00048578 = 7.5296 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 05:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7669 @ 0.00049097 = 3.7652 BTC [+]
Nov 01 05:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1794 @ 0.00049099 = 0.8808 BTC [+]
Nov 01 05:22:41 <knotwork>	yay, finally got marketcetera's web interface running
Nov 01 05:22:42 <knotwork>	Marketcetera Tradebase is a web-based reporting application for all of your trading activity.
Nov 01 05:22:42 <knotwork>	It can be used to view, create and modify positions, trades, accounts and equities.
Nov 01 05:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	cool
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Nov 01 05:30:42 <knotwork>	it seems to have no login, as if either its intended you run it in-house or you slap http auth over it or something
Nov 01 05:31:11 <knotwork>	just localhost:3000 and its like you are the head of IT for the whole brokerage
Nov 01 05:32:11 <knotwork>	but, what it talks to on the back end is your marketcetera order router which is hub all these components talk through
Nov 01 05:32:44 <knotwork>	so maybe its up to the stragegies your strategy engine or router uses to control which consoles can do what
Nov 01 05:33:36 <knotwork>	it looks like you can do anything but its using FIX protocol to communicate so maybe when you place and order you are not supposed to you will just get a rejected back
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Nov 01 05:39:11 <EskimoBob>	knotwork: did you get the Marketcetera talking to OT?
Nov 01 05:39:34 <EskimoBob>	wrong channel
Nov 01 05:39:39 <knotwork>	I only a few minutes ago got it to talk at all, to my web browser
Nov 01 05:40:38 <knotwork>	probably to get it to talk to OT or to MPEx we would need to make a filter that translates FIX protocol orders/commands into OT or MPEx protocol
Nov 01 05:41:25 <knotwork>	its more for doing things like getting live quote streams from Yahoo Finance and placing orders on the NYSE or a Forex place etc
Nov 01 05:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34961 @ 0.00049311 = 17.2396 BTC [+]
Nov 01 05:42:18 <knotwork>	but in principle one should be able to add more currency pairs for USD/BTC and so on, and use it to talk to any bitcoin exchange that can handle FIX protocol
Nov 01 05:43:11 <knotwork>	and maybe soon also use it to implement bitcoin exchanges and stock-exchanges that can talk to mainstream brokerages and forex exchanges and stockmarkets
Nov 01 05:44:25 <EskimoBob>	but first things first ... how to get that damn GLBSE bs resolved :)
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Nov 01 05:45:28 <EskimoBob>	it's 9:45 in London
Nov 01 05:46:41 <knotwork>	it looks like marketcetera could implement distributed brokerages
Nov 01 05:47:15 <knotwork>	since when you design your strategies it looks like you could easily send all your orders to umpteen places at once
Nov 01 05:47:40 <knotwork>	so you could have servers all around the world with order places on any of them propagated to all of them
Nov 01 05:47:46 <EskimoBob>	I do not want to call him again :( . There are pople with way bigger portfolios than me but none of those fucktars have balls to call him up. Instead they spin stupid theories in the forum and scare themselves to believing that shit they write.
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Nov 01 05:48:27 <knotwork>	just set up a strategy that knows not to actually submit any orders from any of your other servers to the stock market, just submit them to your archives
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Nov 01 05:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob what do you suppose calling some loser based in london is to achieve ?
Nov 01 05:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	if they want to cyber they prolly call an ex.
Nov 01 05:50:19 <knotwork>	it looks like distributed markets should be easy too, since it seems to be designed so you can set up strategies to do things like first see if you can settle orders between your own users, then see if other brokerages might be able to fill them, and only end up going to NYSE or whatever if brokerages cannot settle it among themselves
Nov 01 05:53:00 <knotwork>	clearly this web interface though it not for customers to come visit on your machine with their browsers
Nov 01 05:53:20 <knotwork>	it is for them to visit on their own machine's localhost:3000 with their browsers
Nov 01 05:53:59 <knotwork>	consulting their own machine's mysql database for their own positions and accounts and such
Nov 01 05:54:48 <knotwork>	and running their own order routing service on their own machine to route their orders to whichever exchanges or brokerages etc based on their own routing strategies
Nov 01 05:55:41 <knotwork>	so basically its for "power users", brokers and such
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Nov 01 05:57:10 <knotwork>	"Marketcetera has captured with great clarity what an emerging high technology hedge fund is looking for. Their software is open, clear, powerful, broker-independent, and simple to get up and running."
Nov 01 05:57:58 <knotwork>	Marketcetera democratizes access to high frequency trading. Our Open Source Automated Trading Platform provides you with the agility to implement your new strategies in moments, even while you reduce your infrastructure costs. Download. Run. Trade.
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Nov 01 06:07:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00049311 = 3.5997 BTC [+]
Nov 01 06:14:36 <thestringpuller>	do you ever sleep?
Nov 01 06:14:40 <thestringpuller>	or is it like evening theree
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Nov 01 06:32:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1315 @ 0.00049311 = 0.6484 BTC [+]
Nov 01 06:32:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00049424 = 19.2754 BTC [+]
Nov 01 06:32:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4485 @ 0.00049447 = 2.2177 BTC [+]
Nov 01 06:35:42 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: how many btc would I have to pay you to edit my paper?
Nov 01 06:36:02 <thestringpuller>	:)
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Nov 01 06:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.0004912 = 0.4421 BTC [-]
Nov 01 07:24:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00049141 = 15.0863 BTC [+]
Nov 01 07:24:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2393 @ 0.00049359 = 1.1812 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 07:49:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31883 @ 0.00049359 = 15.7371 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 08:14:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15376 @ 0.00049359 = 7.5894 BTC [+]
Nov 01 08:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8724 @ 0.00049447 = 4.3138 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 08:18:59 <kakobreklaaa>	;;bc.stats
Nov 01 08:19:00 <gribble>	Error: "bc.stats" is not a valid command.
Nov 01 08:19:03 <kakobreklaaa>	;;bc,stats
Nov 01 08:19:04 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Nov 01 08:19:12 <kakobreklaaa>	you are invalid.
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Nov 01 08:20:33 <EskimoBob>	try that help. It send you to a completely useless page
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Nov 01 08:33:28 <kakobreklaaa>	hm still no reply from my casascius order 20 days ago
Nov 01 08:35:25 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller edit your paper ?!
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Nov 01 08:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31387 @ 0.00049447 = 15.5199 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 09:03:25 <EskimoBob>	sun is up soon and I'll take hike to the the shop to see what happened to "ART" tee/coffee cups
Nov 01 09:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23237 @ 0.0004912 = 11.414 BTC [-]
Nov 01 09:06:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21263 @ 0.00049086 = 10.4372 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 09:32:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 296 @ 0.00049447 = 0.1464 BTC [+]
Nov 01 09:32:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30183 @ 0.00049519 = 14.9463 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 09:57:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13956 @ 0.00049086 = 6.8504 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 09:59:31 <mircea_popescu>	"Yes, 2.0 was pretty much the beginning of all this, though I'd prefer the perspective they had when it was implemented as a command-line client."
Nov 01 09:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	lmao this is hysterical
Nov 01 09:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	"glbbq errs : became less like mpex" is the objection. yet they can't bring themselves to utter it.
Nov 01 10:00:22 <thestringpuller>	glbse didn't have options
Nov 01 10:00:25 <thestringpuller>	so it's not the same at all
Nov 01 10:00:39 <thestringpuller>	apples to rotten oranges :P
Nov 01 10:06:48 <mircea_popescu>	this just discusses infrastructure
Nov 01 10:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	i think they had a ssh-ish thing at some point
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Nov 01 10:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Nov 01 10:15:54 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0033845 / 0.00338456 / 0.00339944 (445020 shares, 1,506.20 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00300117 / 0.0034 (2108663 shares, 6,328.48 BTC)
Nov 01 10:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.0004885 = 14.7039 BTC [-]
Nov 01 10:22:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00048824 = 0.7324 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 10:48:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00048824 = 7.1771 BTC [-]
Nov 01 10:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00048758 = 0.9264 BTC [-]
Nov 01 10:48:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00048699 = 4.0907 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 10:57:26 <Guest62118>	guruvan guruvan_ about?
Nov 01 10:57:36 <Guest62118>	a shutup nickserv.
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Nov 01 11:13:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5044 @ 0.00048887 = 2.4659 BTC [+]
Nov 01 11:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00049519 = 1.0894 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 12:03:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4719 @ 0.0004949 = 2.3354 BTC [-]
Nov 01 12:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24531 @ 0.00049435 = 12.1269 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 12:10:32 <thestringpuller>	!ticker mpoe
Nov 01 12:10:34 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Nov 01 12:10:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker s.mpoe
Nov 01 12:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00045811 / 0.00048434 / 0.0005 (1823458 shares, 883.19 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.0003899 / 0.0005 (85279784 shares, 33,251.02 BTC)
Nov 01 12:10:46 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 01 12:10:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.02001, Best ask: 11.09877, Bid-ask spread: 0.07876, Last trade: 11.09888, 24 hour volume: 31071.33618643, 24 hour low: 10.95210, 24 hour high: 11.27900, 24 hour vwap: 11.10281
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Nov 01 12:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00048829 = 6.3966 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 12:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4739 @ 0.00048801 = 2.3127 BTC [-]
Nov 01 12:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6561 @ 0.00048725 = 3.1968 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 14:14:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26118 @ 0.00048615 = 12.6973 BTC [-]
Nov 01 14:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8101 @ 0.00048578 = 3.9353 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 14:40:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 138 @ 0.00048578 = 0.067 BTC [-]
Nov 01 14:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41700 @ 0.00048548 = 20.2445 BTC [-]
Nov 01 14:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6527 @ 0.00048498 = 3.1655 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 15:01:38 <kakobreklaaa>	guruvan guruvan_ ping
Nov 01 15:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6001 @ 0.00048622 = 2.9178 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 15:34:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 270 @ 0.00048622 = 0.1313 BTC [+]
Nov 01 15:44:29 <EskimoBob>	I added a really bad quality :( picture to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102010.msg1311505#msg1311505
Nov 01 15:47:31 <dub>	you made them?
Nov 01 15:52:11 <copumpkin>	ooh
Nov 01 15:52:13 <copumpkin>	cute
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Nov 01 15:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.0004851 = 0.8247 BTC [-]
Nov 01 15:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11838 @ 0.00048498 = 5.7412 BTC [-]
Nov 01 15:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2662 @ 0.00048443 = 1.2896 BTC [-]
Nov 01 16:01:39 <EskimoBob>	Is s.mpoe the only "stock" traded in mpex? WHat has happened to all the rest?
Nov 01 16:02:32 <FabianB>	s.dice and bvps
Nov 01 16:04:25 <kakobreklaaa>	and b.bitb
Nov 01 16:09:16 <EskimoBob>	hmm, havent seen assbot announcing any trades in those lately
Nov 01 16:11:34 <mod6>	its probably harder to see the once-in-a-while trades of those symbols in here, try #bitcoin-assets-trades
Nov 01 16:13:34 <mod6>	!ticker S.DICE
Nov 01 16:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0033845 / 0.00338456 / 0.00339944 (445020 shares, 1,506.20 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00299494 / 0.0034 (2076191 shares, 6,218.07 BTC)
Nov 01 16:13:42 <mod6>	!ticker S.BVPS
Nov 01 16:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0027501 / 0.00339887 / 0.00351 (38998 shares, 132.55 BTC)
Nov 01 16:13:59 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Nov 01 16:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00047594 / 0.00048628 / 0.00049519 (1292133 shares, 628.35 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00039017 / 0.0005 (85269590 shares, 33,269.78 BTC)
Nov 01 16:21:05 <EskimoBob>	I had BVPS in GLBSE ... puff
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Nov 01 16:25:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21356 @ 0.00048622 = 10.3837 BTC [+]
Nov 01 16:31:40 <mod6>	EskimoBob: :<
Nov 01 16:31:42 <mod6>	that sucks
Nov 01 16:32:16 <dub>	someone should make a lot of those mugs and leave them in random workplaces
Nov 01 16:32:42 <dub>	starting a rumour that bitcoin was first adopted by 1970s hippies
Nov 01 16:42:36 <EskimoBob>	dub: I do not like hippies that much
Nov 01 16:42:49 <EskimoBob>	but btc from 70 is good idea
Nov 01 16:43:24 <EskimoBob>	nex we can tell everyone how this nakamoto dude actually stole the idea from a old stoner hippie :)
Nov 01 16:44:55 <EskimoBob>	who was tripping on acid and writing btc code with his imaginary pen on the wall of bull shit
Nov 01 16:50:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11538 @ 0.00048443 = 5.5894 BTC [-]
Nov 01 16:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00048438 = 1.9375 BTC [-]
Nov 01 16:50:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13603 @ 0.000484 = 6.5839 BTC [-]
Nov 01 16:56:48 <jurov>	S.DICE is traded about once per day, BVPS even less
Nov 01 17:01:45 <dub>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20172392
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Nov 01 17:13:37 <thestringpuller>	mpoe is about options
Nov 01 17:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.000484 = 2.2748 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 17:41:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00048411 = 2.4206 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 18:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19978 @ 0.000484 = 9.6694 BTC [-]
Nov 01 18:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.0004839 = 13.646 BTC [-]
Nov 01 18:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1222 @ 0.0004838 = 0.5912 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 18:33:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30078 @ 0.0004838 = 14.5517 BTC [-]
Nov 01 18:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5422 @ 0.00048369 = 2.6226 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 18:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00048369 = 9.4803 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 19:23:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7383 @ 0.00048369 = 3.5711 BTC [-]
Nov 01 19:38:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.00002 = 7 BTC
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Nov 01 19:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] [PAID] 400000 @ 0.00003 = 12 BTC
Nov 01 19:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.00009268 = 32.43671515 BTC
Nov 01 19:49:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00048411 = 9.9243 BTC [+]
Nov 01 19:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00048444 = 0.7751 BTC [+]
Nov 01 19:50:53 <kakobreklaaa>	o looky dividends spited out.
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Nov 01 19:52:07 <dub>	wat is a MH/s worth today
Nov 01 19:52:16 <dub>	assuming nefario wasnt retarded
Nov 01 19:53:31 <kakobrekla>	hard to say
Nov 01 19:53:36 <dub>	I guess you look at price/diff at IPO and go from there
Nov 01 19:54:22 <dub>	but there are other factors like the general asshole prolapse in the market prior to nefardation
Nov 01 19:55:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] [PAID] 400000 @ 0.00004054 = 16.21592105 BTC
Nov 01 19:55:47 <dub>	without applying any science I'd say somewhere between 0.05 and 0.01
Nov 01 19:56:10 <dub>	maybe higher
Nov 01 19:56:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.0001 = 35 BTC
Nov 01 19:58:04 <jurov>	twitter says something different
Nov 01 19:58:36 <kakobrekla>	yeah quite possibly
Nov 01 19:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	yea wtf happened there ?!
Nov 01 19:58:48 <kakobrekla>	i tested the parser on one case
Nov 01 19:58:52 <kakobrekla>	maybe two
Nov 01 19:58:58 <mircea_popescu>	MPEx ‏@MPEx1
Nov 01 19:58:58 <mircea_popescu>	B.MPCD.A paid a total dividend of 350.00000000 BTC to 350`000 outstanding shares
Nov 01 19:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	which is what it did
Nov 01 19:59:33 <jurov>	twitter shows some 7BTC earlier
Nov 01 19:59:44 <jurov>	for mpcd.a
Nov 01 19:59:47 <kakobrekla>	00:38.04 ( @assbot ) [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.00002 = 7 BTC
Nov 01 19:59:49 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] [PAID] 350000 @ 0.00002 = 7 BTC
Nov 01 19:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	that too
Nov 01 20:00:19 <kakobrekla>	so you are saying i should be fixing this
Nov 01 20:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	the 2nd one kakobrekla.
Nov 01 20:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	why is it reported 35btc ? 350 were paid.
Nov 01 20:01:41 <kakobrekla>	wild guess? trailing zero. realliy? dunno till i check sauce.
Nov 01 20:02:01 <kakobrekla>	reality*
Nov 01 20:02:04 <kakobrekla>	:p
Nov 01 20:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Nov 01 20:02:16 <kakobrekla>	did you check the site
Nov 01 20:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	more words needed
Nov 01 20:03:19 <kakobrekla>	did you check the web site
Nov 01 20:03:20 <kakobrekla>	:D
Nov 01 20:04:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol which one ?
Nov 01 20:04:15 <jurov>	so, B.MPCD.A exists no more now?
Nov 01 20:04:30 <kakobrekla>	the one we discussed a few minutes ago on pm
Nov 01 20:04:50 <kakobrekla>	you know, the milk thingy...
Nov 01 20:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	jurov the entire mpcd series is gone
Nov 01 20:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76515.msg1311976#msg1311976
Nov 01 20:06:03 <mircea_popescu>	there's accounting for it.
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Nov 01 20:14:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00048444 = 0.1938 BTC [+]
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Nov 01 20:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	eh is the forum down ?!
Nov 01 20:24:04 <kakobrekla>	nope
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Nov 01 20:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12441 @ 0.00048444 = 6.0269 BTC [+]
Nov 01 20:43:52 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: give me free money
Nov 01 20:43:56 <thestringpuller>	lololol
Nov 01 20:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	O << free coin
Nov 01 20:44:25 <thestringpuller>	;)
Nov 01 20:44:30 <thestringpuller>	gimme welfare plz
Nov 01 20:45:42 <dub>	thats the coin after it went to jail
Nov 01 20:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10000 @ 0.00005078 = 0.5078 BTC [-]
Nov 01 20:47:32 <mircea_popescu>	wow ?!
Nov 01 20:52:37 <thestringpuller>	gigaaaaa
Nov 01 20:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	this reminds me of the dead parrot sketch
Nov 01 20:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	it's pineing for the fjords...
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Nov 01 21:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	"32 stores on Etsy are now accepting the bitcoin currency"
Nov 01 21:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is a big deal on reddit
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Nov 01 21:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	what is wrong with people ?! this is like saying 32 myspace pages are now supporting w/e petition >.<
Nov 01 21:02:44 <kakobrekla>	my father was selling zafferano there
Nov 01 21:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	etsy you mean ?
Nov 01 21:10:49 <kakobrekla>	yep
Nov 01 21:11:04 <kakobrekla>	growing that shit is some fuckup up job.
Nov 01 21:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	crocuses ? i never knew.
Nov 01 21:11:35 <kakobrekla>	it costs 10-15k euro per kg
Nov 01 21:11:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol ya, and makes 2 kg an acre
Nov 01 21:11:48 <kakobrekla>	but its way better to just grow weed
Nov 01 21:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19059 @ 0.00048444 = 9.2329 BTC [+]
Nov 01 21:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14514 @ 0.00048468 = 7.0346 BTC [+]
Nov 01 21:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3827 @ 0.00048497 = 1.856 BTC [+]
Nov 01 21:11:54 <kakobrekla>	1g/sq m
Nov 01 21:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	;;google acre to square meter
Nov 01 21:12:50 <gribble>	Acres to Square Meters converter: <http://www.metric-conversions.org/area/acres-to-square-meters.htm>; Square Meters to Acres converter: <http://www.metric-conversions.org/area/square-meters-to-acres.htm>; Acres to Square Meter - Ask Numbers: <http://www.asknumbers.com/acre-to-square-meter.aspx>
Nov 01 21:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	1ac = 4046.8564m²
Nov 01 21:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	so i was wrong, 4kg/acre :p
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Nov 01 21:15:26 <dub>	what is zafferano?
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Nov 01 21:15:46 <dub>	google says its a restaurant
Nov 01 21:16:04 <pigeons>	heh i googled it too
Nov 01 21:16:07 <kakobrekla>	http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocus_sativus
Nov 01 21:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	dub saffron
Nov 01 21:16:33 <kakobrekla>	i have it in my garden
Nov 01 21:16:36 <dub>	ah
Nov 01 21:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	well technically saffron is the product, crocus is the plant, zafferano is mostly the plant
Nov 01 21:17:08 <kakobrekla>	hm
Nov 01 21:17:18 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Nov 01 21:17:29 <kakobrekla>	sorry for the poor selection of the word
Nov 01 21:18:04 <kakobrekla>	anway its also poisonous.
Nov 01 21:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	i grew some fake saffron this year
Nov 01 21:18:25 <kakobrekla>	fake?
Nov 01 21:18:27 <pigeons>	no if you hadn't used that word i wouldn't have learned anything today
Nov 01 21:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	safflower
Nov 01 21:18:44 <dub>	wonder how well it grows inside
Nov 01 21:18:59 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121884.msg1311693#msg1311693
Nov 01 21:19:00 <Diablo-D3>	doing it right
Nov 01 21:19:15 <kakobrekla>	dub it wont do. its a very special plant.
Nov 01 21:19:27 <kakobrekla>	The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.
Nov 01 21:19:52 <dub>	generally plants are stupid and can be tricked into thinking they are elsewhere/when
Nov 01 21:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	dub it can be grown inside but its a pain
Nov 01 21:20:34 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu if you want i can get you some proper bulb
Nov 01 21:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	o i can't be bothered myself.
Nov 01 21:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	but thanks :)
Nov 01 21:21:17 <Diablo-D3>	actually
Nov 01 21:21:21 <Diablo-D3>	plants are vastly intelligent
Nov 01 21:21:27 <kakobrekla>	as much as Diablo-D3
Nov 01 21:21:35 <kakobrekla>	jk :p
Nov 01 21:21:37 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, they're like, on a higher plane of existence, man
Nov 01 21:21:41 <dub>	Diablo-D3: can they link to existant subforums?
Nov 01 21:21:43 *	Diablo-D3 chuckles
Nov 01 21:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Nov 01 21:25:14 <Diablo-D3>	speaking of deep shit
Nov 01 21:25:16 <Diablo-D3>	http://imgur.com/gallery/fkroU
Nov 01 21:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/bYb78.jpg
Nov 01 21:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	that one's pretty good
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Nov 01 21:37:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11455 @ 0.00048369 = 5.5407 BTC [-]
Nov 01 21:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5445 @ 0.00048339 = 2.6321 BTC [-]
Nov 01 21:38:15 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah
Nov 01 21:38:32 <Diablo-D3>	out of all of them, I think that has the most powerful meaning
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Nov 01 21:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	as a nice bonus, the person doing that isn't usually black.
Nov 01 21:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell copumpkin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.0
Nov 01 21:54:01 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Nov 01 21:57:40 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell mircea_popescu i need welfare
Nov 01 21:57:41 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Nov 01 21:57:59 <mircea_popescu>	you trying to get ignored ?
Nov 01 21:59:34 <Diablo-D3>	bwahhah
Nov 01 22:00:45 <thestringpuller>	:(
Nov 01 22:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00048339 = 8.266 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 22:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21896 @ 0.00048339 = 10.5843 BTC [-]
Nov 01 22:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11404 @ 0.0004833 = 5.5116 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 22:35:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/bitcoin-and-the-poor/ if anyone;'s curious
Nov 01 22:42:11 <Lucidize>	is that you?
Nov 01 22:42:22 <Lucidize>	[photo]
Nov 01 22:42:36 <B0g4r7>	What happened to Goat?
Nov 01 22:42:41 <Lucidize>	I'm gonna have a read
Nov 01 22:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	Lucidize yup
Nov 01 22:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	some years ago.
Nov 01 22:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 nothing ? or what do you mean
Nov 01 22:43:14 <B0g4r7>	On the forums.
Nov 01 22:43:20 <B0g4r7>	His avatar says he's banned and censored.
Nov 01 22:43:20 <Lucidize>	wowser, you're a cute guy.
Nov 01 22:43:27 <Lucidize>	Don't worry, I'm not a guy lol :P
Nov 01 22:43:38 <B0g4r7>	And his posts now stop at Oct 23rd.
Nov 01 22:44:03 <B0g4r7>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119957.msg1292161#msg1292161
Nov 01 22:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	a yea he got banned for unclear reasons
Nov 01 22:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	he says it's because he called theymos out, but my pr chick did the same and she's not banned.
Nov 01 22:45:20 <mircea_popescu>	there was some sort of conflict there but it's not clear exactly what.
Nov 01 22:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	Lucidize why ty.
Nov 01 22:45:43 <B0g4r7>	Hush-hush as usual.
Nov 01 22:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	such bs this.
Nov 01 22:46:02 <Lucidize>	I have to apologise to you for being rude one day, a while back
Nov 01 22:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	people wonder why we attract so many scammers. well... it's the hush.
Nov 01 22:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	Lucidize haha accepted. tho i don't remember it
Nov 01 22:46:27 <Lucidize>	I was in glbse and blinded and I see now that what you were saying was very true and you are well informed
Nov 01 22:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	ha! well that's nice. tyvm then.
Nov 01 22:47:23 <Lucidize>	=)
Nov 01 22:48:21 <Lucidize>	Yeah I'm not surprised you don't remember, many ppl would attack you for your views
Nov 01 22:48:35 <Lucidize>	Now we all eat our words
Nov 01 22:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	aaa, but that's part of growing up.
Nov 01 22:49:11 <mircea_popescu>	the more words you eat, the bigger you get.
Nov 01 22:50:44 <Lucidize>	like raindrops
Nov 01 22:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4096 @ 0.0004833 = 1.9796 BTC [-]
Nov 01 22:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00048284 = 6.5183 BTC [-]
Nov 01 22:52:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18057 @ 0.00048205 = 8.7044 BTC [-]
Nov 01 22:52:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7747 @ 0.00048178 = 3.7323 BTC [-]
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Nov 01 23:03:39 <thestringpuller>	:(
Nov 01 23:05:07 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: have you seen In Time
Nov 01 23:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	i dont think so
Nov 01 23:05:29 <thestringpuller>	you might ike i
Nov 01 23:05:39 <thestringpuller>	people have stopped aging
Nov 01 23:05:46 <thestringpuller>	so they use "time" as currency
Nov 01 23:06:48 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Nov 01 23:17:01 <thestringpuller>	smickles: monopoly!!!!
Nov 01 23:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9197 @ 0.00048178 = 4.4309 BTC [-]
Nov 01 23:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26003 @ 0.00048086 = 12.5038 BTC [-]
Nov 01 23:19:22 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.nationofchange.org/uaw-files-charges-against-romney-his-auto-bail-out-profiteering-1351783724
Nov 01 23:19:24 <Diablo-D3>	welp
Nov 01 23:19:26 <Diablo-D3>	thats the end of romney
Nov 01 23:26:54 <dub>	dammit
Nov 01 23:27:11 <dub>	so many hilarious facial expressions we'll never see
Nov 01 23:28:26 <Diablo-D3>	<Romney> Fuck. You know, fuck is such a wonderful word. It describes, pain, pleasure, surprise, and what I do to the American people each and every day.
Nov 01 23:29:05 <Diablo-D3>	<Paul Ryan> mrrrpphhmrrrppphh
Nov 01 23:29:23 <Diablo-D3>	<Romeny> Take my dick out of your mouth before you try to speak.
Nov 01 23:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 not to burts your parade piss, but i don't imagine anyone cares what some union does
Nov 01 23:29:37 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: UAW _is_ the auto industry.
Nov 01 23:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Nov 01 23:29:52 <Diablo-D3>	this is automatic front page news on everything
Nov 01 23:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	it's just some (hopefully soon illegal) union.
Nov 01 23:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	union = pseudograssroots, democratic party.
Nov 01 23:30:19 <Diablo-D3>	you dont understand the scope of the UAW
Nov 01 23:30:21 <Diablo-D3>	its not just a union
Nov 01 23:30:33 <Diablo-D3>	they own one of the largest industrial complexes in the US
Nov 01 23:30:34 <dub>	isnt america a union?
Nov 01 23:30:40 <Diablo-D3>	dub: wrong kind of union
Nov 01 23:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	dude srsly. some union is sueing the republican candidate, who doesn't want them to get more public money.
Nov 01 23:31:07 <mircea_popescu>	why do you think this registers ?
Nov 01 23:31:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: the UAW directly engaged the President and Congress over the auto bailout.
Nov 01 23:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	soooo ?
Nov 01 23:31:40 <Diablo-D3>	and one of Romney's biggest points was the auto bailout was the worst thing he did besides Obamacare
Nov 01 23:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	Greg Palast is the author of the New York Times bestseller, "Armed Madhouse" (Penguin Paperback 2007). When Palast, an investigator of corporate fraud and racketeering, turned his skills to journalism, he was quickly recognized as, "The most important investigative reporter of our time" [Tribune Magazine]
Nov 01 23:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	lol this is funny
Nov 01 23:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	i hadn't realised just how irrelevant/self referential lefties have gotten in the us.
Nov 01 23:32:08 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: do you understand the problem now?
Nov 01 23:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	carry on lol
Nov 01 23:32:26 <Diablo-D3>	romney just sank his own battleship on the eve of the election
Nov 01 23:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	comment #2 on your link
Nov 01 23:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	UNIONS are not the solution. UNIONS are the problem. Rude, crude, lazy, corrupt BULLIES.
Nov 01 23:33:07 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun. i think this may actually be a net gain for him
Nov 01 23:33:17 <Diablo-D3>	unions were the solution when it started
Nov 01 23:33:22 <Diablo-D3>	now they became what they were fighting
Nov 01 23:33:26 <dub>	the problem with unions is they have become corporations
Nov 01 23:33:31 <Diablo-D3>	exactly dub
Nov 01 23:33:46 <dub>	that and its an easy living for the habitually useless
Nov 01 23:33:50 <Diablo-D3>	the UAW should have never been allowed to buy up the largest auto manufacturing plant in the US
Nov 01 23:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	unions are never the solution.
Nov 01 23:33:56 <BTC-Mining>	Hey mircea, byt the way, has patrick harnett defaulted?
Nov 01 23:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 it was going for free
Nov 01 23:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining yes.
Nov 01 23:34:04 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no, unions, _the original kind_, are fine
Nov 01 23:34:24 <Diablo-D3>	where workers could bind together and fight unfair abusive practices and be legally protected while doing so
Nov 01 23:34:26 <BTC-Mining>	Hmm, interesting
Nov 01 23:34:34 <Diablo-D3>	but its clearly an artifact of times gone past
Nov 01 23:34:48 <Diablo-D3>	the invention of the Internet has largely made unions pointless.
Nov 01 23:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.0
Nov 01 23:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 well... they kinda were pointless originally, too. but anyway.
Nov 01 23:35:16 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: it was a gamble, but they worked
Nov 01 23:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	"they worked".
Nov 01 23:35:36 <Diablo-D3>	it collapsed a few of the smaller rich people empires and forced the rest to comply
Nov 01 23:35:39 <mircea_popescu>	they ensured that jobs move out of europe into the us, sure.
Nov 01 23:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	then they moved jobs into asia
Nov 01 23:35:56 <Diablo-D3>	but those times are long gone
Nov 01 23:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	i guess... it worked.
Nov 01 23:36:04 <dub>	they are a counter point to offset the coproration with a competing corporation
Nov 01 23:36:07 <Diablo-D3>	unions didnt move them into asia though
Nov 01 23:36:21 <Diablo-D3>	walmart did that.
Nov 01 23:36:26 <Diablo-D3>	and ford.
Nov 01 23:36:28 <dub>	the good they do is that they need to protect the weak to keep power
Nov 01 23:36:35 <Diablo-D3>	dub: yes but
Nov 01 23:36:47 <dub>	adn teh weak do need protection
Nov 01 23:36:47 <Diablo-D3>	when they threaten people for not joining and also act as the bosses of the workers they protect, theres a problem
Nov 01 23:37:04 <Diablo-D3>	the UAW is just too bigt
Nov 01 23:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	the weak are weak for a perfectly good reason
Nov 01 23:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	they don't need any protection. they need incentives to de-weakify.
Nov 01 23:37:20 <dub>	yes but they need to survive
Nov 01 23:37:22 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no
Nov 01 23:37:27 <dub>	or it costs us more in the ned
Nov 01 23:37:29 <dub>	end*
Nov 01 23:37:30 <Diablo-D3>	the problem there is, the weak are weak because the lack of education
Nov 01 23:37:31 <Diablo-D3>	and you cant fix it
Nov 01 23:37:41 <dub>	you cant fix it with capitalism
Nov 01 23:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	either they fix it or suck my cock.
Nov 01 23:37:49 <mircea_popescu>	a choice emerges.
Nov 01 23:37:52 <Diablo-D3>	who someone is going to be is set in stone by the time they're 6, give or take.
Nov 01 23:37:54 <dub>	not in its current form anyway
Nov 01 23:38:16 <Diablo-D3>	we need several generations of intensive education to fix the problem the US has
Nov 01 23:38:35 <Diablo-D3>	laws wont fix it, unions or the lack thereof wont fix it
Nov 01 23:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	that problem being, several generations which have been protecred
Nov 01 23:38:38 <dub>	this, everyone is equal idea and can succeed if they want to is quite obviously a sick joke
Nov 01 23:38:53 <mircea_popescu>	16 yos that know you'll protect them from my cock have 0 incentive to learn anything.
Nov 01 23:39:02 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: like, why do you think ending welfare wont work?
Nov 01 23:39:12 <Diablo-D3>	all its going to do is put a lot of people in prison.
Nov 01 23:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	ending welfare will work just fine.
Nov 01 23:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	good.
Nov 01 23:39:20 <Diablo-D3>	Bad, its more expensive.
Nov 01 23:39:24 <dub>	in the end those that can will pay to look after the weak, its nature
Nov 01 23:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	we start shooting them.
Nov 01 23:39:36 <Diablo-D3>	lol mircea_popescu is trolling us
Nov 01 23:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	gotta make that soylent green somehow.
Nov 01 23:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	no, im serious. this paradigm that everyone has to make it is bs.
Nov 01 23:39:51 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: shooting them doesnt even work
Nov 01 23:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	life is only worth living if most don't make it.
Nov 01 23:39:59 <Diablo-D3>	you dont get the money you invested into them back
Nov 01 23:40:10 <mircea_popescu>	you don't invest anything.
Nov 01 23:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	they do.
Nov 01 23:40:16 <Diablo-D3>	no, we all do
Nov 01 23:40:23 <mircea_popescu>	not once we finally get rid of welfare.
Nov 01 23:40:28 <Diablo-D3>	each person, from birth to 18 years of age, costs $2m.
Nov 01 23:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	costs YOU 2m :p
Nov 01 23:40:36 <Diablo-D3>	shooting them just flushes that down the drain.
Nov 01 23:40:43 <Diablo-D3>	costs the nation $2m.
Nov 01 23:40:53 <dub>	welfare only exists because capitalism depends on it
Nov 01 23:40:55 <mircea_popescu>	i don't care about your nation.
Nov 01 23:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	dub does not.
Nov 01 23:41:03 <Diablo-D3>	good, the nation doesnt not care about you.
Nov 01 23:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	we;re find then.
Nov 01 23:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	fine*
Nov 01 23:41:46 <Diablo-D3>	Something went wrong in social planning post-WW2.
Nov 01 23:41:56 <Diablo-D3>	I'm not entirely sure what, its not any single cause doing it.
Nov 01 23:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	the notion that "social planning" to be exact.
Nov 01 23:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	there's no such thing.
Nov 01 23:42:06 <Diablo-D3>	There is.
Nov 01 23:42:10 <mircea_popescu>	so you think.
Nov 01 23:42:16 <mircea_popescu>	social planning is exactly like dmc.
Nov 01 23:42:17 <Diablo-D3>	WW2 was a result of social planning.
Nov 01 23:42:28 <Diablo-D3>	It was a manufactured war.
Nov 01 23:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	well i guess that's my limit for tonight.
Nov 01 23:44:16 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121865.0
Nov 01 23:44:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00048197 = 8.2899 BTC [+]
Nov 01 23:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121865.msg1311552#msg1311552 loller
Nov 01 23:45:21 <kakobrekla>	hm
Nov 01 23:45:47 <dub>	how many new 'trading platforms' per day is bitcoin at now?
Nov 01 23:45:51 <kakobrekla>	i thought these were real securities
Nov 01 23:45:54 <kakobrekla>	nevermind then sorry.
Nov 01 23:45:56 <dub>	it seems to be accelerating
Nov 01 23:46:10 <kakobrekla>	i always paste the link first and then read it
Nov 01 23:46:47 <dub>	read? I just comment willy nilly
Nov 01 23:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	dub yes. trading platform. is good professional.
Nov 01 23:47:04 <dub>	I sale platform to you yes
Nov 01 23:47:17 <dub>	very nice and secure
Nov 01 23:47:54 <mircea_popescu>	slightly dented
Nov 01 23:48:28 <dub>	Goodluck Happy Professional Trading LLC LLQY LTP
Nov 01 23:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	except the llc papers weren't signed
Nov 02 00:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15753 @ 0.0004831 = 7.6103 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32083 @ 0.00048494 = 15.5583 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27772 @ 0.00048497 = 13.4686 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00048517 = 13.1481 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6783 @ 0.00048552 = 3.2933 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10158 @ 0.00048565 = 4.9332 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17910 @ 0.00048622 = 8.7082 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00048803 = 15.617 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00048818 = 10.1053 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00048829 = 4.1505 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00048832 = 11.915 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35800 @ 0.00049074 = 17.5685 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42100 @ 0.00049224 = 20.7233 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18941 @ 0.00049282 = 9.3345 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:00:50 <BTC-Mining>	Well once again, if anyone has S.BVPS shares, please PM me and state your rate.
Nov 02 00:01:09 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Nov 02 00:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00048086 / 0.00048744 / 0.00049519 (1607095 shares, 783.37 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00039123 / 0.0005 (85112884 shares, 33,299.26 BTC)
Nov 02 00:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (0.00048744-0.00039123)/0.00048744
Nov 02 00:01:37 <gribble>	0.197378138848
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Nov 02 00:13:53 *	dub complains about the mess his colleagues make in the lab
Nov 02 00:14:19 <dub>	next level 'i'll be in my lab' meme, go
Nov 02 00:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121624.0
Nov 02 00:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	this stuff is pretty good
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Nov 02 00:17:49 <dub>	backwards graphs are backwards
Nov 02 00:18:33 <mircea_popescu>	ya turns out he fudged some numbers
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Nov 02 00:20:03 <smickles>	number fudger :(
Nov 02 00:20:25 <dub>	fudged I think is being kind
Nov 02 00:20:55 <BTC-Mining>	Those charts are way off
Nov 02 00:20:58 <dub>	back of the napkin I would say 'pulled directly out of his small intestine' more accurate
Nov 02 00:22:23 <dub>	at $10 and 30m diff SC is $65 day break even
Nov 02 00:22:35 <dub>	er 65 day
Nov 02 00:22:51 <dub>	with $.15/kw
Nov 02 00:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	what i liked was the idea of making the graphs
Nov 02 00:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	i guess someone should make right ones
Nov 02 00:23:17 <smickles>	65 days? that's the fudged #, right?
Nov 02 00:23:20 <dub>	yeah, at least make your bullshit graphs face teh right direction
Nov 02 00:23:41 <dub>	smickles: I may have fucked up.. http://tpbitcalc.appspot.com/?difficulty=30000000.3930&hashrate=60000.00&exchangerate=10.00&bitcoinsperblock=50.00&rigcost=1300.00&powerconsumption=60.00&powercost=0.15&investmentperiod=355
Nov 02 00:23:57 <dub>	oh wait 50btc
Nov 02 00:24:07 <dub>	twice that
Nov 02 00:24:32 <smickles>	thing is, the diff won't stay 30m for 65 days
Nov 02 00:24:34 <BTC-Mining>	137 days break even with the SC actually
Nov 02 00:24:41 <BTC-Mining>	at 30 mill difficulty
Nov 02 00:24:46 <smickles>	or especially 137 days
Nov 02 00:25:00 <smickles>	can't you calc it with a linnear gain in diff?
Nov 02 00:25:10 <smickles>	or lognormal
Nov 02 00:25:30 <dub>	you could but it would be equally meaningless
Nov 02 00:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25859 @ 0.00049282 = 12.7438 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:25:41 <dub>	since it wont be linear or predictable at all
Nov 02 00:25:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13641 @ 0.00049286 = 6.7231 BTC [+]
Nov 02 00:26:15 <smickles>	yeah, but i expect it to rise over time
Nov 02 00:26:26 <dub>	of course
Nov 02 00:26:44 <smickles>	so why do the calc assuming it stays flat?
Nov 02 00:27:00 <dub>	lazy
Nov 02 00:27:00 <smickles>	</semi-troll>
Nov 02 00:27:08 <dub>	also its pointless to do it either way :)
Nov 02 00:27:36 <smickles>	heh, i'm just glad i got to type lognormal
Nov 02 00:27:38 <dub>	plenty of speculation that mass GPU dieback occurs on reward half
Nov 02 00:27:43 <BTC-Mining>	Not sure difficulty will raise that much tho
Nov 02 00:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	some people suspect diff over 100mn by next year
Nov 02 00:28:03 <dub>	but once asic are shipping it will skyrocket, no question
Nov 02 00:28:34 <dub>	100%pa proffit what
Nov 02 00:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	i for one don't think there's going to be asics in 2012
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Nov 02 00:29:09 <BTC-Mining>	I'd usually expect the difficulty to raise so that profit on current equipment prices is in the 1-3% weekly range
Nov 02 00:29:19 <smickles>	the first person with the first asic on that first diff period will make a lot of btc, relatively
Nov 02 00:29:47 <dub>	well yeah
Nov 02 00:29:50 <BTC-Mining>	Profit considering expenses, but not equipment's purchase price
Nov 02 00:29:52 <dub>	at current diff payback is in days
Nov 02 00:29:54 <mircea_popescu>	smickles this is actually a very interesting problem. the companies have no real incentive to ship
Nov 02 00:29:54 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: you've noticed price rised laggin on diff increases too?
Nov 02 00:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	so likely they will ship the entire backlog simultaneously
Nov 02 00:30:07 <dub>	one week for SC
Nov 02 00:30:53 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the must plan to mine like hell as 'testing' untill their actions raise the diff significantly, then ship
Nov 02 00:30:55 <dub>	mircea_popescu: once important incentive, devs have promised an algo swap if they dont
Nov 02 00:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	smickles exactly. dub devs can get fucked.
Nov 02 00:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno why anyone thinks devs matter.
Nov 02 00:31:27 <dub>	they will have support of deepbut et all
Nov 02 00:31:33 <smickles>	dev is commodity now,
Nov 02 00:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	of course they will.
Nov 02 00:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	they will have support of old miners against new miners
Nov 02 00:31:47 <dub>	algo will swap, asic will die
Nov 02 00:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	if bitcoin allowed them any advantage because of some such crap it'd be doomed anyway
Nov 02 00:32:03 <dub>	asic vendor will not risk this
Nov 02 00:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	there is exactly 0 dev can do.
Nov 02 00:32:27 <dub>	in what way can dev be prevented from algo swap if they have mining majority?
Nov 02 00:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	in the way of owning the new chain.
Nov 02 00:32:44 <mircea_popescu>	appointing new devs and bye.
Nov 02 00:32:52 <dub>	glwt
Nov 02 00:32:57 <mircea_popescu>	it's a done deal.
Nov 02 00:33:05 <dub>	bye bye bitcoin
Nov 02 00:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	what, you think where the crowd of 5000 atlas sockpuppets lies matters ?
Nov 02 00:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	nope, just bye bye gmaxwell & co.
Nov 02 00:33:20 <mircea_popescu>	i almost like the idea.
Nov 02 00:33:29 <dub>	I have no love for the devs
Nov 02 00:33:35 <dub>	but I believe they could effect this
Nov 02 00:33:36 <smickles>	interesting times ahead, anyway
Nov 02 00:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin won't die just because some old boy's club tries to keep newcomers out
Nov 02 00:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	or enforce "rules"
Nov 02 00:33:56 <dub>	I think it will
Nov 02 00:33:57 <mircea_popescu>	there's no rules outside of make blocks.
Nov 02 00:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	neah.
Nov 02 00:34:22 <dub>	nearly identical thing would rise to replace it
Nov 02 00:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	yeah lol. the asic's chain
Nov 02 00:34:55 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway. the shipping problem is that companies don't have an incentive to ship for as long as what they're shipping is worth more than what the people paid for it.
Nov 02 00:35:00 <dub>	probably take years for the failed bitcoin experiment memory to die however
Nov 02 00:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	once the diff is high enough they'll ship to lock in the payments and avoid refunds
Nov 02 00:35:13 <mircea_popescu>	but before, even if people refund they're ahead.
Nov 02 00:35:29 <dub>	they've already won
Nov 02 00:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	"they" ?
Nov 02 00:35:55 <dub>	asic vendors
Nov 02 00:36:07 <dub>	its a captive market
Nov 02 00:36:20 <dub>	the only problem taht could arise is they fuck it up
Nov 02 00:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Nov 02 00:36:36 <dub>	surefire way to do that is create a 51% problem
Nov 02 00:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	in a sense the current dev + gpu miner pools are creating that problem as it is
Nov 02 00:36:56 <smickles>	they would't 51%
Nov 02 00:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	with their bs "algo change" threats.
Nov 02 00:37:05 <smickles>	it'd devalue btc
Nov 02 00:37:28 <smickles>	and they are mining for btc
Nov 02 00:37:32 <mircea_popescu>	in my eyes the only thing that will ever devalue btc is agreement.
Nov 02 00:37:40 <mircea_popescu>	i hope the asic-gpu thing comes to a civil war.
Nov 02 00:37:46 <dub>	mircea_popescu: I agree that the current mining cabal is dangerous
Nov 02 00:38:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's not even a mining cabal, it's a stupidity cabal.
Nov 02 00:38:13 <mircea_popescu>	clearly displayed in the "let's stick together" around pirate.
Nov 02 00:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	asshole was defaulting in july.
Nov 02 00:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	nobody said anything.
Nov 02 00:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	patrickharnett is in default, i have to say it. if i don't say it nobody does. buddy-buddy
Nov 02 00:38:55 <mircea_popescu>	the EXACT system that's the problem with politics in the us, and the EXACT reason we can't use fucken fiat anymore.
Nov 02 00:38:57 <dub>	point is threat is enough, asic costs a lot to develop
Nov 02 00:39:12 <dub>	riskign it all by mining a few 10k btc is not smart
Nov 02 00:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	nobody cares about the toothless threats of some pasty-chested "devs".
Nov 02 00:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	imagining the contrary is ridiculous.
Nov 02 00:39:52 <dub>	im not sure how you figure they are toothless, they have the majority
Nov 02 00:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	heh. they have 30 th.
Nov 02 00:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	if the asics have 35 th they have the minority.
Nov 02 00:40:20 <dub>	I don't think it even matters, an algo war will devalue btc as smickles said
Nov 02 00:40:27 <dub>	asic vendor loses both ways
Nov 02 00:40:31 <mircea_popescu>	it might devalue btc in the eyes of the foolish.
Nov 02 00:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	the only value of btc rests on the fact that nobody can actually matter.
Nov 02 00:40:53 <smickles>	the devs swithcing algos would easily be seen as anti-freemarket, and people might abandon them over that
Nov 02 00:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	and bitcoin'd be better off for it
Nov 02 00:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	not because they're bad people, but bcause we don't want any respected people.
Nov 02 00:41:16 <BTC-Mining>	 51% attack
Nov 02 00:41:16 <BTC-Mining>	A miner or cartel who controls more than fifty percent of the hashing capacity of the bitcoin mining network has the potential to fraudulently double-spend recent transactions. With majority of hashing power the attacker has the technical ability to mine blocks which do not include a previous spend transactions from the miner but instead include a double spend of the coin. With majority
Nov 02 00:41:16 <BTC-Mining>	control the potential exists for this double spend even if the transaction had already seen confirmations as those blocks could be overtaken in the attack.
Nov 02 00:41:16 <BTC-Mining>	The risk lessens of this with each confirmation as the computational advantage the attacker needs grows to a mathematically improbable level and six confirmations is widely accepted as being the amount where the transaction is secure from this attack.
Nov 02 00:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	it's a liability.
Nov 02 00:41:19 <dub>	in the long run maybe
Nov 02 00:41:30 <smickles>	yeah, we'd be better off dropping anti free market peeps
Nov 02 00:41:40 <BTC-Mining>	We're already waiting for 6 confirmations for big deposits EXACTLY for the 51% attack...
Nov 02 00:41:49 <dub>	BTC-Mining: there is functionally nothing to be gained from actually using a 51%
Nov 02 00:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	this is the old anti-dictator argument. i'm just rehashing roman republicanism here.
Nov 02 00:42:02 <dub>	chicked feed compared to tooling up for asic production
Nov 02 00:42:10 <dub>	chicken*
Nov 02 00:42:26 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining that's a different 51% attack you're thinking of.
Nov 02 00:42:41 <BTC-Mining>	?
Nov 02 00:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	in the context we;'re discussing 51% simply means the majority decides by what rules the chains are built.
Nov 02 00:42:57 <dub>	once you succeed at 51% you just lost all your btc value anyway
Nov 02 00:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	if miner group A uses hashing algo a and miner group B uses hashing algo b
Nov 02 00:43:10 <BTC-Mining>	Ah, you mean for the rules?
Nov 02 00:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin will use the hashing algo of the larger group
Nov 02 00:43:29 <smickles>	the answer is beer
Nov 02 00:43:36 <BTC-Mining>	If that "51%+" has incompatible rules... then we get a split no?
Nov 02 00:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	and so the devthreat to change algo only has the merit of the interest of gpu miners, who are doomed anyway
Nov 02 00:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining we get a sort-of fork.
Nov 02 00:43:54 <BTC-Mining>	One chain with regular users, and one with 100% with their own new rules...
Nov 02 00:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	exactly. and that new one will be the devs.
Nov 02 00:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	well... ex devs at that point
Nov 02 00:44:52 <BTC-Mining>	That would be a problem if they push it as the official client... who controls bitcoin.org?
Nov 02 00:44:53 <dub>	imo at that point bitcoin is dead
Nov 02 00:45:00 <BTC-Mining>	I actually never wondered so far.
Nov 02 00:45:02 <dub>	something else comes up, probalby years later
Nov 02 00:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	the official client is irrelevant, it doesn't mine.
Nov 02 00:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub nah, it'll be fine.
Nov 02 00:45:24 <mircea_popescu>	btctalk will be fun to watch tho
Nov 02 00:45:29 <smickles>	there'd be uncertainty
Nov 02 00:45:36 <smickles>	so buy options
Nov 02 00:45:37 <dub>	we'd get solidcoin
Nov 02 00:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	and drama
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Nov 02 00:45:56 <BTC-Mining>	eh, that's actually right. But if there's major change, the official client might need to apply new rules for transactions different from the current
Nov 02 00:46:29 <smickles>	"official" sounds meaningless in context of a dev-split
Nov 02 00:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Nov 02 00:46:37 <dub>	there would be no official client, there isnt really now, theres a reference client
Nov 02 00:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's meaningless even as it is
Nov 02 00:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. "first client"
Nov 02 00:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i don't think the devs have either the balls or the peabrains to actually go ahead with algo change
Nov 02 00:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	that they threaten it is fine, but that's all.
Nov 02 00:47:16 <dub>	anyway, as far a business decision goes its madness to even contemplate
Nov 02 00:47:17 <mircea_popescu>	hence, toothless.
Nov 02 00:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	dub no it's not. i am actually all for it.
Nov 02 00:47:33 <dub>	will. not. happen.
Nov 02 00:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	let's have it out now.
Nov 02 00:47:40 <mircea_popescu>	rather than in 10 years.
Nov 02 00:47:48 <mircea_popescu>	full onslaught, civil war, bring it.
Nov 02 00:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	we find out.
Nov 02 00:47:56 <smickles>	Lu e-jr has the crazy to try anything he sets his mind to tho
Nov 02 00:48:25 <dub>	smickles: true and he has a lot of mining support which is scary
Nov 02 00:48:25 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you made you money in civil way, didn't you?
Nov 02 00:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	sure, eligius has all the promise of becoming a fortified compound in utah
Nov 02 00:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	smickles hm ?
Nov 02 00:48:44 <dub>	smickles: im sure this would factor in to any decision
Nov 02 00:49:09 <dub>	mircea_popescu: its not just his pool, deepbutt and a few others have backed his quackery before
Nov 02 00:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 here, power crews from out of state are trying to come work in ny. they're turned away BECAUSE THEYRE NOT UNION
Nov 02 00:49:17 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh, not the case?
Nov 02 00:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	dub gpu miners have a vested interest.
Nov 02 00:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what ?
Nov 02 00:49:28 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: okay, so?
Nov 02 00:49:35 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 just sayin'.
Nov 02 00:49:43 <Diablo-D3>	thats the governor's fault
Nov 02 00:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	you watch new york return a full complement of teapartiers for the senate.
Nov 02 00:50:03 <smickles>	so you were born in the 70's, i guess you were too young to make money when romania broke free, eh?
Nov 02 00:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	everyone thinks ny is blue, they're so pissed at democrats right now it'll happen.
Nov 02 00:50:18 <Diablo-D3>	ny isnt red or blue
Nov 02 00:50:20 <Diablo-D3>	its jew.
Nov 02 00:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i'm never too young.
Nov 02 00:50:31 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu is like 14, smickles
Nov 02 00:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	but romania never had a civil war ? or you mean the revolution ?
Nov 02 00:50:56 <smickles>	yeah, i guess i conflated the two
Nov 02 00:51:18 <smickles>	did no one oppose the revolution?
Nov 02 00:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	a well. fyi, what the romanian revolution was is this : ohio state students taking over the troops, then executing nixon.
Nov 02 00:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00049229 = 13.8826 BTC [-]
Nov 02 00:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00049 = 0.98 BTC [-]
Nov 02 00:52:01 <dub>	I think you are putting far to much faith in the ideology of asic vendors, given a choice between mining a few btc which are sure to become nearly worthless at least for a while, and profiting hugely in the long term.. they will ship
Nov 02 00:52:31 <mircea_popescu>	dub well in practical terms it'll be a miracle if they have anything to ship anyway,.
Nov 02 00:52:53 <dub>	why? all it takes is money
Nov 02 00:53:06 <dub>	its not like they are inventing something or breaking ground
Nov 02 00:53:19 <dub>	they are building an IC
Nov 02 00:53:31 <dub>	just like millions of other products before them
Nov 02 00:53:42 <smickles>	yeah, but the % of bitcoin biz that turns out to be a scam after time is high
Nov 02 00:53:55 <mircea_popescu>	dub they are breaking ground, for one, and it takes 10 to 100x more money than they have.
Nov 02 00:54:26 <dub>	not really
Nov 02 00:54:55 <smickles>	well, technically, is there a product on market that does this already?
Nov 02 00:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Nov 02 00:55:09 <smickles>	zactly
Nov 02 00:55:25 <dub>	no but its just producing a hardware fpga
Nov 02 00:55:29 <dub>	of sorts
Nov 02 00:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	it's like saying fucking your wife in the ass is not breaking ground and doesn't require any resources
Nov 02 00:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	cause she already had a kid.
Nov 02 00:55:46 <dub>	its not a question of if it can be done
Nov 02 00:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	^^
Nov 02 00:55:56 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: excellent anology
Nov 02 00:56:15 <smickles>	i still havent got it that wy
Nov 02 00:56:30 <smickles>	from her anyway
Nov 02 00:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	i was shocked to find most us couples still don't do it
Nov 02 00:56:53 <smickles>	she's just small and won't use a plug
Nov 02 00:57:05 <dub>	you might need to spend up front on some nice wine or flowers
Nov 02 00:57:14 <smickles>	but i like to think that i'm too big ;)
Nov 02 00:57:25 <mircea_popescu>	all buttvirgins are small lol
Nov 02 00:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	dub has a point. half bottle wine enema.
Nov 02 00:59:03 <smickles>	it was our anniversary on the 30th just past, as likly to happen then as ever
Nov 02 00:59:24 <dub>	just get her drunk
Nov 02 00:59:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 02 00:59:31 <dub>	use lube
Nov 02 00:59:41 <smickles>	naw, she's preggers
Nov 02 01:00:02 <dub>	patience young padawan
Nov 02 01:00:06 <mircea_popescu>	well that's no time to teach ehr anal
Nov 02 01:00:12 <dub>	you will get those brown wings
Nov 02 01:00:26 <mircea_popescu>	did she get hemorrhoids on the first one ?
Nov 02 01:00:27 <smickles>	lol
Nov 02 01:00:43 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: nope
Nov 02 01:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	a well. lucky girl.
Nov 02 01:01:08 <smickles>	she had to have a c-section tho
Nov 02 01:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	shows great promise of much enjoyments. just tell her ppl on irc said you should give her tiem
Nov 02 01:01:20 <dub>	you could go for the 'accident' but its probably not idea for continuing the sport
Nov 02 01:01:26 <dub>	ideal*
Nov 02 01:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol accident such bs
Nov 02 01:02:01 <smickles>	the irc argument has worked for other things in the past :D
Nov 02 01:02:02 <dub>	I've done it
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Nov 02 01:02:10 <dub>	hitting from back, oops wrong hole
Nov 02 01:02:18 <dub>	*yelp*
Nov 02 01:03:14 <smickles>	well, i call successful derailment of conversation
Nov 02 01:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	smickles o ya ? did she get a leash ?
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Nov 02 01:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly, smickles is worse than ciuciu.
Nov 02 01:03:39 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: we already had a leash ;)
Nov 02 01:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	no but i meant for her not for you
Nov 02 01:03:56 <smickles>	lol
Nov 02 01:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Nov 02 01:05:38 <smickles>	maybe i'll try it someday, but she doesn't seem like she'd be good at the dom end
Nov 02 01:05:50 <dub>	arent you wearign it around your leash^W ring finger?
Nov 02 01:06:05 <BTC-Mining>	Hmm, right on channel's topic. Guess I'll stay out of it.
Nov 02 01:06:25 <dub>	asic and anal, not so different
Nov 02 01:06:42 <dub>	both hurt a little at first
Nov 02 01:06:46 <smickles>	dub: you mean the thing that makes it more dificult to fend of other women?
Nov 02 01:07:06 <dub>	smickles: yeah, I jest, be wearing one myself sooner rather than later
Nov 02 01:07:07 <smickles>	i got less advances before the ring than after,
Nov 02 01:08:03 <dub>	its not the ring, chicks can smell how full a mans balls are
Nov 02 01:08:13 <smickles>	lololllool
Nov 02 01:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	20+k sold, .5 drop
Nov 02 01:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	i don't care what antyone says, btc is solid as a rock.
Nov 02 01:11:56 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 02 01:11:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.69308, Best ask: 10.77499, Bid-ask spread: 0.08191, Last trade: 10.77499, 24 hour volume: 47684.46748761, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 11.20999, 24 hour vwap: 10.87540
Nov 02 01:12:02 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 02 01:12:03 <gribble>	10.87
Nov 02 01:12:57 <smickles>	!ticker S.MPOE
Nov 02 01:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00048086 / 0.00048779 / 0.00049519 (1615081 shares, 787.82 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00039134 / 0.0005 (85097298 shares, 33,302.67 BTC)
Nov 02 01:13:14 <dub>	I should head home to my sausage wallet
Nov 02 01:13:32 *	dub &
Nov 02 01:14:26 <smickles>	and scene
Nov 02 01:14:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/12hclg/iama_peter_acworth_ceo_and_founder_of_kinkcom_nsfw/c6v50by
Nov 02 01:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	btw
Nov 02 01:16:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00049016 = 11.3227 BTC [+]
Nov 02 01:16:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17312 @ 0.00049286 = 8.5324 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 01:18:02 <smickles>	holy shit! eric idle is doin an iama?
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Nov 02 03:23:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7277 @ 0.00049417 = 3.5961 BTC [+]
Nov 02 03:23:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.000495 = 2.475 BTC [+]
Nov 02 03:23:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5316 @ 0.00049519 = 2.6324 BTC [+]
Nov 02 03:23:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19407 @ 0.00049546 = 9.6154 BTC [+]
Nov 02 03:26:43 <smickles>	omg! mircea_popescu I've got it!
Nov 02 03:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	?
Nov 02 03:26:55 <smickles>	some more code, and i'll have that market maker bot
Nov 02 03:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	for options was it ?
Nov 02 03:27:51 <smickles>	i just need the part where it watches for its orders to be taken by someone else and responds accordingly
Nov 02 03:27:54 <smickles>	yup
Nov 02 03:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	hey cool.
Nov 02 03:28:05 <smickles>	but i figured out the hard part :)
Nov 02 03:28:27 <smickles>	i.e. where to place standing orders at
Nov 02 03:28:34 <smickles>	s/where/whatprice/
Nov 02 03:28:50 <mircea_popescu>	a cool.
Nov 02 03:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	curious what comes of this :D
Nov 02 03:31:09 <smickles>	me making btc at the cost of the greater fool, that's what :D
Nov 02 03:31:39 <EskimoBob>	smickles: market makers usually have some responsibilities like providing  liquidity  etc
Nov 02 03:31:56 <EskimoBob>	is that what you are going to do too?
Nov 02 03:33:25 <EskimoBob>	what if bid side (not you) has no orders? What if ask is gone? Are you buying/selling to/from your own books? etc...
Nov 02 03:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	i presume he will maintain some orders on the book
Nov 02 03:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	or ?
Nov 02 03:34:28 <EskimoBob>	who sets the rules for you? at what increment can you change prices etc.
Nov 02 03:34:58 <EskimoBob>	if you have no rules set like that, you are not really a market maker but just another trader executing trades for a client(s)
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Nov 02 03:37:19 <smickles>	heh, EskimoBob i should be providing liquidity on both sides nearly all the time, regardless of others standing orders
Nov 02 03:39:20 <EskimoBob>	cool, but what happens, if you do not?
Nov 02 03:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	smickles is tis goins to be scm v 2.0 ?
Nov 02 03:40:27 <smickles>	EskimoBob: well, if i don't, then it means that one or more of my basal assumptions was wrong
Nov 02 03:41:27 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: naw, private thing. unless I really see that more capital will help, and i'm confident the risk is really outweighed by the benefit
Nov 02 03:42:31 <mircea_popescu>	aha. funny thing, the girl was saying this exact thing to some investment club dood
Nov 02 03:42:33 <smickles>	i'd prefer to keep all profit to myself :P
Nov 02 03:43:32 <smickles>	anyway, i'll be off to bed for now; early engagement tomorrow
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Nov 02 03:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons and dub : how can you not like gage? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1312347#msg1312347
Nov 02 03:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	smickles : engage!
Nov 02 03:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Nov 02 03:48:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23893 @ 0.00049546 = 11.838 BTC [+]
Nov 02 03:48:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5722 @ 0.00049557 = 2.8357 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 04:09:01 <dub>	one saner post doesnt not a sane person make
Nov 02 04:09:10 <dub>	but he's earned some points
Nov 02 04:13:56 <EskimoBob>	smickles: good luck :)
Nov 02 04:14:27 <EskimoBob>	most important question... on what exchange are you going to run it?
Nov 02 04:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00049266 = 11.8731 BTC [-]
Nov 02 04:17:28 <EskimoBob>	JoelKatz is riding his ego-trip wave big time :)
Nov 02 04:18:21 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121031.msg1312326#msg1312326
Nov 02 04:18:38 <dub>	am I missing something? or is the alledged link here that they both used email
Nov 02 04:20:52 <EskimoBob>	He replaced that nose hair picture of himself with a "painting" of himself. Whats next? Will he paint that orange shirt black and add more uniform curls to his wig?
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Nov 02 04:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9259 @ 0.00049266 = 4.5615 BTC [-]
Nov 02 04:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14641 @ 0.00049 = 7.1741 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 05:01:04 <Chaang-Noi>	whats new?
Nov 02 05:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15151 @ 0.00049316 = 7.4719 BTC [+]
Nov 02 05:14:34 <EskimoBob>	nuthing mon, nuthing
Nov 02 05:16:02 <EskimoBob>	people are writing scary stories to each other in form. Same shit, different day
Nov 02 05:16:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i see glbse is back up and nefario made his hostage of the account info public/offical
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Nov 02 05:23:51 <EskimoBob>	?
Nov 02 05:23:55 <EskimoBob>	URL
Nov 02 05:32:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8259 @ 0.00049 = 4.0469 BTC [-]
Nov 02 05:32:45 <Chaang-Noi>	www.glbse.com
Nov 02 05:32:55 <Chaang-Noi>	UPDATE:Currently recovering bitcoin payments made in error, account closing has been halted until most of this has been recovered
Nov 02 05:39:05 <Jackmaninov>	aka i've run for the border
Nov 02 05:39:39 <Jackmaninov>	but all eyes on Goat who's the *real* criminal /s
Nov 02 05:41:37 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Nov 02 05:45:33 <EskimoBob>	not really. Send back the coin that is not yours and this circus probably moves on
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Nov 02 05:46:08 <EskimoBob>	fkn s.dice, I lost 0.075 BTC
Nov 02 05:46:14 <EskimoBob>	SCAM!
Nov 02 05:46:16 <EskimoBob>	lol
Nov 02 05:47:04 <EskimoBob>	smickles: there is no "_nearly_ all the time" :)
Nov 02 05:47:56 <EskimoBob>	only "all the time" unless you can produce digitally signed (by ID card) document from your doctor
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Nov 02 05:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00048923 = 12.5243 BTC [-]
Nov 02 06:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7641 @ 0.00048923 = 3.7382 BTC [-]
Nov 02 06:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19149 @ 0.00049316 = 9.4435 BTC [+]
Nov 02 06:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5710 @ 0.0004937 = 2.819 BTC [+]
Nov 02 07:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00048887 = 11.6351 BTC [-]
Nov 02 07:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7647 @ 0.00048855 = 3.7359 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 07:39:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3490 @ 0.00048999 = 1.7101 BTC [+]
Nov 02 07:39:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8610 @ 0.00049112 = 4.2285 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 08:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35753 @ 0.00048855 = 17.4671 BTC [-]
Nov 02 08:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11347 @ 0.0004884 = 5.5419 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 08:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	am i like the only person on reddit with more link karma than comment karma ?
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Nov 02 08:10:15 <Chaang-Noi>	iv never used reddit
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Nov 02 08:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	then you don't qualify!
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Nov 02 08:19:51 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Nov 02 08:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	heya
Nov 02 08:27:17 <kakobrekla>	how is it going
Nov 02 08:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	owned bluematt a little on reddit
Nov 02 08:28:11 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise bau
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Nov 02 08:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28453 @ 0.0004884 = 13.8964 BTC [-]
Nov 02 08:30:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23047 @ 0.00048742 = 11.2336 BTC [-]
Nov 02 08:31:52 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Nov 02 08:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/12ht6y/bitcoin_and_the_poor/
Nov 02 08:34:44 <EskimoBob>	"This guy needs to get laid. So much anger over such a small point." - LOL
Nov 02 08:35:37 <kakobrekla>	coding in my sleep = matt ?
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Nov 02 08:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Nov 02 08:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	i don't recall that guy's name on reddit but we did have a nice chat on my blog
Nov 02 08:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	course it didn't come out too clearly what he's about.
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Nov 02 08:47:09 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/embed/Cd6C1vIyQ3w
Nov 02 08:47:13 <kakobrekla>	id like to try this.
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Nov 02 08:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00048909 = 6.7494 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 09:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00048909 = 15.5042 BTC [+]
Nov 02 09:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00048978 = 4.9468 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 09:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00048754 = 6.4843 BTC [-]
Nov 02 09:48:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28053 @ 0.00048742 = 13.6736 BTC [-]
Nov 02 09:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1647 @ 0.0004872 = 0.8024 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 10:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00048978 = 7.2487 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 10:36:46 <Chaang-Noi>	wow kakobrekla
Nov 02 10:38:35 <kakobrekla>	its prolly expencive as... hm... as saffron.
Nov 02 10:39:39 <kakobrekla>	expensive i ment.
Nov 02 10:39:49 <kakobrekla>	:>
Nov 02 10:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3445 @ 0.00048937 = 1.6859 BTC [-]
Nov 02 10:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7136 @ 0.0004872 = 3.4767 BTC [-]
Nov 02 10:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27233 @ 0.0004867 = 13.2543 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 11:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22357 @ 0.0004867 = 10.8812 BTC [-]
Nov 02 11:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4143 @ 0.00048585 = 2.0129 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 11:24:32 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Nov 02 11:24:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00048086 / 0.00048796 / 0.00049557 (1684503 shares, 821.97 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00039236 / 0.0005 (85146172 shares, 33,408.06 BTC)
Nov 02 11:25:42 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Nov 02 11:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00299494 / 0.0034 (2076191 shares, 6,218.07 BTC)
Nov 02 11:26:40 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.bvps
Nov 02 11:26:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0027501 / 0.00335836 / 0.00350001 (23698 shares, 79.59 BTC)
Nov 02 11:26:43 <Chaang-Noi>	saffron is cheap here
Nov 02 11:32:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8671 @ 0.00048585 = 4.2128 BTC [-]
Nov 02 11:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40429 @ 0.00048581 = 19.6408 BTC [-]
Nov 02 11:32:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.26788816 BTC [-]
Nov 02 11:33:31 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119295.0
Nov 02 11:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol, this is bitcoin lending in a nutshell.
Nov 02 11:36:34 <EskimoBob>	never understood why anyone wants to lend BTC (except buy shit like drugs or pr0n)
Nov 02 11:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	you mean lend or borrow ?
Nov 02 11:37:29 <EskimoBob>	borrow
Nov 02 11:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Nov 02 11:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	well, mpoe borrows to finance options trading. seems the only legitimate thing so far.
Nov 02 11:38:56 <Diablo-D3>	how much does mpoe pay?
Nov 02 11:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 it's open auction. as much as the filler asks for.
Nov 02 11:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	last month it settled at 9%
Nov 02 11:40:25 <Chaang-Noi>	a month?
Nov 02 11:40:33 <Chaang-Noi>	a week? :)
Nov 02 11:40:38 <Diablo-D3>	A DAY?!
Nov 02 11:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	a month.
Nov 02 11:41:07 <mircea_popescu>	well, an almost month. from last friday of one month till the last friday of next month.
Nov 02 11:42:22 <Chaang-Noi>	not bad
Nov 02 11:42:41 <Chaang-Noi>	double my money in a year :)
Nov 02 11:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	you do undertake the risk tho. if the bot loses money you're on the hook.
Nov 02 11:43:10 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: have you learned nothing? :)
Nov 02 11:43:15 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Nov 02 11:43:24 <Chaang-Noi>	brb, going to start a pass though!
Nov 02 11:43:32 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Nov 02 11:43:46 <Chaang-Noi>	:D
Nov 02 11:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	where lol
Nov 02 11:44:10 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Nov 02 11:44:11 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Nov 02 11:44:15 <EskimoBob>	OT!
Nov 02 11:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	you need at least 50 btc to qualify.
Nov 02 11:44:43 <Chaang-Noi>	im good at collecting funds for other people
Nov 02 11:45:18 <mircea_popescu>	so go ahead
Nov 02 11:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	as long as you explain the deal properly
Nov 02 11:45:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i was kidding... at this point im not doing anything. i explained pirate properly too and well that blew up in my face
Nov 02 11:45:59 <Chaang-Noi>	so much for letting people do what they want
Nov 02 11:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	has it ?
Nov 02 11:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	i wasn't following that closely.
Nov 02 11:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135187123817.jpg i wonder how often he cuts himself
Nov 02 11:48:28 <Chaang-Noi>	SEC and all that...
Nov 02 11:48:52 <Chaang-Noi>	there is no way im doing anything with btc until all that BS is over...
Nov 02 11:49:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet it will take over a year
Nov 02 11:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	prolly in a year the real battles start.
Nov 02 11:50:08 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
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Nov 02 11:50:24 <Chaang-Noi>	if it blows over it will take a year
Nov 02 11:50:33 <Chaang-Noi>	if they do whatever then yeah it will take a long damn time
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Nov 02 11:55:38 <Chaang-Noi>	was wondering when a bitcoinica clone would start up using thier source code
Nov 02 11:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	few days ago
Nov 02 11:57:05 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been traveling
Nov 02 11:57:17 <Chaang-Noi>	oh looks like 10 days ago
Nov 02 11:57:19 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i missed it
Nov 02 11:58:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5171 @ 0.00048581 = 2.5121 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 12:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00048553 = 1.4566 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 12:24:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00048553 = 0.4855 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 12:33:29 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i want to invest 50btc in your bonds
Nov 02 12:33:32 <thestringpuller>	auctioneer
Nov 02 12:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	so go ahead.
Nov 02 12:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	make sure you first read up on them tho.
Nov 02 12:35:01 <thestringpuller>	will your bot lose me money!!!
Nov 02 12:35:04 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Nov 02 12:35:09 <thestringpuller>	or make me money...
Nov 02 12:35:19 <thestringpuller>	im putting bets on a robot...
Nov 02 12:35:27 <thestringpuller>	asimov would be proud
Nov 02 12:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Nov 02 12:36:04 <thestringpuller>	what are the general returns?
Nov 02 12:36:10 <thestringpuller>	does the bot usually make money?
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Nov 02 12:38:23 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller yeah, it lost money once so far. look at the monthly reports
Nov 02 12:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	you got the link ?
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Nov 02 12:39:22 <thestringpuller>	i see it in the faq
Nov 02 12:39:25 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Nov 02 12:39:39 <thestringpuller>	my investors want a place to put btc money into that is safe
Nov 02 12:39:53 <thestringpuller>	there are no treasury bonds (which are garbage anyways)
Nov 02 12:40:17 <thestringpuller>	and the last bond i bought defaulted because people are idiots
Nov 02 12:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	well, mpoe bonds can make a loss, so they're not really safe in that sense.
Nov 02 12:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	i used to think the mpcd series was, but that blew up.
Nov 02 12:42:50 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: if the annual gains out pace the annual losses wouldnt it be a net gain? so the bot breaks even annually?
Nov 02 12:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	the bot is ahead anually, iirc
Nov 02 12:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	realyl, the only month it lost money was the pirate august thing.
Nov 02 12:43:48 <thestringpuller>	everyone lost money then
Nov 02 12:44:00 <thestringpuller>	only people buying puts made money
Nov 02 12:45:17 <thestringpuller>	mpoe stock is making me about 1% day...
Nov 02 12:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	it has been going kinda crazy.
Nov 02 12:48:29 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin friday is gonna cause the price to skyrocket
Nov 02 12:48:47 <thestringpuller>	then reward drop in late november...
Nov 02 12:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol i doubt it will have any impact.
Nov 02 12:49:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00048539 = 9.2709 BTC [-]
Nov 02 12:49:53 <jurov>	bonds are still bought by email?
Nov 02 12:49:55 <jurov>	mpoe
Nov 02 12:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
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Nov 02 13:00:15 <thestringpuller>	the halloween futures changed the market conditions yesterday
Nov 02 13:01:43 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118354.msg1313150#msg1313150
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Nov 02 13:03:23 <jurov>	how can one have such mess in database?
Nov 02 13:03:37 <Diablo-D3>	I dont know
Nov 02 13:03:43 <Diablo-D3>	a payout script like that would take three seconds to do
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Nov 02 13:05:07 <jurov>	am i the only one in this whole mess who has unit tests AND audit script to backward-verify the balances?
Nov 02 13:10:32 <thestringpuller>	i wrote unit tests...
Nov 02 13:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17248 @ 0.00048539 = 8.372 BTC [-]
Nov 02 13:15:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29652 @ 0.00048518 = 14.3866 BTC [-]
Nov 02 13:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	haloween futures ?!
Nov 02 13:16:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/04MFg.jpg
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Nov 02 13:40:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00048553 = 6.4575 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 14:05:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1897 @ 0.00048518 = 0.9204 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 14:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15934 @ 0.00048518 = 7.7309 BTC [-]
Nov 02 14:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3166 @ 0.00048487 = 1.5351 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 14:58:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15729 @ 0.00048553 = 7.6369 BTC [+]
Nov 02 14:58:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00048978 = 8.914 BTC [+]
Nov 02 14:58:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9971 @ 0.00049112 = 4.897 BTC [+]
Nov 02 15:02:19 <jurov>	interesting that practically everyone who wants to sell s.mpoe put the order below 0.0005
Nov 02 15:02:23 <jurov>	dunno why
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Nov 02 15:24:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4452 @ 0.00049038 = 2.1832 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 15:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18247 @ 0.00049112 = 8.9615 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 16:15:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9272 @ 0.00049112 = 4.5537 BTC [+]
Nov 02 16:15:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28947 @ 0.00049218 = 14.2471 BTC [+]
Nov 02 16:16:43 <kakobreklaaa>	what is this milk friday or what
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Nov 02 16:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla milk friday ?
Nov 02 16:38:11 <kakobreklaaa>	oh another of those kako is scam days
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Nov 02 16:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol wut ?
Nov 02 16:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00049127 = 14.9346 BTC [-]
Nov 02 16:43:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00049218 = 1.1812 BTC [+]
Nov 02 16:43:57 <kakobreklaaa>	yeah silly people
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Nov 02 17:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18953 @ 0.00049218 = 9.3283 BTC [+]
Nov 02 17:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : did you know the FIX protocol also uses string representations of integers btw ?
Nov 02 17:10:12 <jurov>	no
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Nov 02 17:15:31 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, i just did random research and it appears not true
Nov 02 17:15:34 <jurov>	http://www.fixprotocol.org/documents/633/Waters_NY_FIX_4.3_Changes_20010912.pdf
Nov 02 17:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	eh wtf they changed it ?!
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Nov 02 17:16:16 <jurov>	dunno, it's really whatever i stumbled on
Nov 02 17:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	The FIX Protocol has two syntaxes:
Nov 02 17:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	• “Tag=Value”
Nov 02 17:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	– 75=20010618
Nov 02 17:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	that 75 ? that's a string.
Nov 02 17:18:29 <jurov>	oh i misunderstood you. i thought you're talking that "FIX also encloses numbers in quotes"
Nov 02 17:18:56 <jurov>	but then, what's your point?
Nov 02 17:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102176.msg1313402#msg1313402 ?
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Nov 02 17:20:25 <mircea_popescu>	that integers are strings :D
Nov 02 17:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, fix uses some weirdo xml
Nov 02 17:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	no json afaik
Nov 02 17:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	(maybe it changed, i haven't kept up)
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Nov 02 17:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.0004926 = 2.4137 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 17:49:03 <thestringpuller>	smickles: gimme a buzz when you get in
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Nov 02 17:49:57 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: did you not have any halloween futures?
Nov 02 17:50:19 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik
Nov 02 17:51:33 <thestringpuller>	some guy on the forums said he'd promise to buy btc's at 11 back in july
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Nov 02 17:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20247 @ 0.0004926 = 9.9737 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 18:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00049081 = 1.7178 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 18:34:17 <jurov>	tried to research venetfx's FSA registration #194835
Nov 02 18:34:53 <jurov>	it belongs to some completely different entity with defunct website, dates of registration 2001 and 2003
Nov 02 18:36:18 <jurov>	17 Feb 2004	Final Dissolution Notice.. so venetfx's FSA number is completely fake, too
Nov 02 18:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	seems that way
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Nov 02 18:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1853 @ 0.00049249 = 0.9126 BTC [+]
Nov 02 18:50:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.000493 = 1.972 BTC [+]
Nov 02 18:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00049382 = 10.6665 BTC [+]
Nov 02 18:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3470 @ 0.00049388 = 1.7138 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 19:15:44 <kakobrekla>	yes mp that lol
Nov 02 19:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26897 @ 0.00049342 = 13.2715 BTC [-]
Nov 02 19:16:47 <kakobrekla>	i showed that posts to my superior, teh boss, he was rolling of the floor.
Nov 02 19:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00049081 = 4.3191 BTC [-]
Nov 02 19:16:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2769 @ 0.00049068 = 1.3587 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 19:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 10000000 @  = 0.000001 BTC
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Nov 02 19:23:57 <kakobrekla>	fuck thats buggy.
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Nov 02 19:36:03 <dub>	kakobrekla: so whats the punchline?
Nov 02 19:36:34 <kakobrekla>	to what?
Nov 02 19:36:53 <dub>	the link?
Nov 02 19:37:07 <kakobrekla>	ill write up an answer tomorrow
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Nov 02 19:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 140 @ 0.003 = 0.42 BTC [-]
Nov 02 19:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00250005 = 2.5001 BTC [-]
Nov 02 19:38:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00250004 = 0.25 BTC [-]
Nov 02 19:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00250003 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Nov 02 19:38:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00250002 = 0.25 BTC [-]
Nov 02 19:38:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00250001 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Nov 02 19:38:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00200001 = 0.2 BTC [-]
Nov 02 19:38:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 560 @ 0.00180002 = 1.008 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 19:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6000 @ 0.00180002 = 10.8001 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 20:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00049068 = 5.5447 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 20:33:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17378 @ 0.00049382 = 8.5816 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 21:03:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12083 @ 0.0004935 = 5.963 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 21:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18522 @ 0.00049382 = 9.1465 BTC [+]
Nov 02 21:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00049388 = 4.84 BTC [+]
Nov 02 21:30:39 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yo
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Nov 02 21:30:49 <smickles>	sry that i was afk most of the day
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Nov 02 21:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11717 @ 0.0004935 = 5.7823 BTC [-]
Nov 02 21:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1824 @ 0.00049068 = 0.895 BTC [-]
Nov 02 21:56:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1117 @ 0.00049057 = 0.548 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 22:25:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27581 @ 0.00049388 = 13.6217 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 22:41:16 <kakobrekla>	jurov, venetfx is worths brandname, you can see that in mt4
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Nov 02 22:45:03 <kakobrekla>	but i see how that could annoy people, they are already all jerky with mpex being on polimedia.us hehe
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Nov 02 22:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5252 @ 0.00049388 = 2.5939 BTC [+]
Nov 02 22:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36948 @ 0.00049397 = 18.2512 BTC [+]
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Nov 02 23:16:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00049064 = 8.8806 BTC [-]
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Nov 02 23:42:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00049149 = 9.1417 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 00:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00049064 = 12.0207 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 00:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00049064 = 3.2873 BTC [-]
Nov 03 00:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30283 @ 0.00049057 = 14.8559 BTC [-]
Nov 03 00:33:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8017 @ 0.00049038 = 3.9314 BTC [-]
Nov 03 01:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6415 @ 0.00049038 = 3.1458 BTC [-]
Nov 03 01:00:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32685 @ 0.00049009 = 16.0186 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 01:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9115 @ 0.00049009 = 4.4672 BTC [-]
Nov 03 01:25:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11533 @ 0.00049001 = 5.6513 BTC [-]
Nov 03 01:25:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00048954 = 0.3427 BTC [-]
Nov 03 01:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00048923 = 0.8317 BTC [-]
Nov 03 01:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4352 @ 0.00048881 = 2.1273 BTC [-]
Nov 03 01:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24423 @ 0.00049106 = 11.9932 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 02:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00048881 = 2.884 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 02:43:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00048943 = 1.0767 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 03:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8857 @ 0.00049106 = 4.3493 BTC [+]
Nov 03 03:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4303 @ 0.00049149 = 2.1149 BTC [+]
Nov 03 03:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6840 @ 0.00049277 = 3.3705 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 03:34:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00049004 = 12.398 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 03:59:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00049034 = 2.5988 BTC [+]
Nov 03 04:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00049004 = 5.8315 BTC [-]
Nov 03 04:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00048881 = 1.662 BTC [-]
Nov 03 04:50:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00049021 = 5.3433 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 05:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00049034 = 2.0104 BTC [+]
Nov 03 05:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15699 @ 0.00049277 = 7.736 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 05:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15496 @ 0.00049021 = 7.5963 BTC [-]
Nov 03 05:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7148 @ 0.00048881 = 3.494 BTC [-]
Nov 03 05:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 806 @ 0.00048869 = 0.3939 BTC [-]
Nov 03 05:49:36 <EskimoBob>	LOL @ "Facts don't match my ideology so FACTS MUST BE WRONG!!!" <-- /. comment
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Nov 03 06:06:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19427 @ 0.00048869 = 9.4938 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 06:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35749 @ 0.0004886 = 17.467 BTC [-]
Nov 03 06:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00048855 = 0.1954 BTC [-]
Nov 03 06:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3851 @ 0.0004879 = 1.8789 BTC [-]
Nov 03 06:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/towards-a-unified-exchange-protocol/ << RFC.
Nov 03 06:34:24 <PsychoticBoy>	;;seen DeadTerra
Nov 03 06:34:24 <gribble>	DeadTerra was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <DeaDTerra> but I agree there are to much drama and BS
Nov 03 06:34:30 <PsychoticBoy>	thought so
Nov 03 06:34:39 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Nov 03 06:35:18 <PsychoticBoy>	should have kicked some guys in the nuts when I had the chance in London
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Nov 03 06:43:10 <dub>	thats where netardio was building the future of bitcoin right?
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Nov 03 06:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Nov 03 06:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	and telling people about how mpex is a scam.
Nov 03 06:45:26 <Chaang-Noi>	interscamdo...
Nov 03 06:45:45 <Chaang-Noi>	or is it interscamgo ?
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Nov 03 06:46:20 <Chaang-Noi>	with nefario it is really hard to dell the differance between criminal and just being so fucking retarded...
Nov 03 06:46:37 <Chaang-Noi>	it is hard for me to think he acidently so much
Nov 03 06:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
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Nov 03 06:47:27 <Chaang-Noi>	same with intersango and their bitcoinica stuff
Nov 03 06:47:38 <dub>	luckily unlike criminally insane, criminally retarded is not a valid defense afaik
Nov 03 06:48:03 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah we should just go with criminally retarded until we get more evidance
Nov 03 06:49:57 <PsychoticBoy>	Indeed
Nov 03 06:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	dub sure it is
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Nov 03 06:56:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11549 @ 0.0004879 = 5.6348 BTC [-]
Nov 03 06:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8651 @ 0.00048789 = 4.2207 BTC [-]
Nov 03 07:05:25 <dub>	orly?
Nov 03 07:05:57 <dub>	you have negligence and nuisance as offenses
Nov 03 07:06:44 <dub>	which can be applied to 'act of stupidity causes loss'
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Nov 03 07:24:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9349 @ 0.00048789 = 4.5613 BTC [-]
Nov 03 07:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00048788 = 6.9767 BTC [-]
Nov 03 07:24:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00048787 = 1.7075 BTC [-]
Nov 03 07:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29451 @ 0.00048781 = 14.3665 BTC [-]
Nov 03 07:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	ya but mental retardation is like a positive defense
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Nov 03 07:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17127 @ 0.0004893 = 8.3802 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 08:15:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.0004893 = 10.2753 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 08:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13411 @ 0.00049277 = 6.6085 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 09:00:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: youawake?
Nov 03 09:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Nov 03 09:00:38 <thestringpuller>	who was saying mpex was a scam?
Nov 03 09:03:18 <thestringpuller>	oh nefario
Nov 03 09:03:27 <thestringpuller>	sorry, my logs are screwed up
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Nov 03 09:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Nov 03 09:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00049277 = 1.3058 BTC [+]
Nov 03 09:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4572 @ 0.00049316 = 2.2547 BTC [+]
Nov 03 09:12:57 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: your existence is making me money
Nov 03 09:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	haha cool
Nov 03 09:14:13 <thestringpuller>	not a lot of money
Nov 03 09:14:21 <thestringpuller>	but it's still moolah
Nov 03 09:18:33 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: why are you standardising now that you start using json with one returning json and all other non-json?
Nov 03 09:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ come again ?
Nov 03 09:20:11 <FabianB_>	11:34 < mircea_popescu> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/towards-a-unified-exchange-protocol/ << RFC.
Nov 03 09:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	well yes, since it was being discussed on the forum i wrote up a proposal
Nov 03 09:20:30 <FabianB_>	STATJSON returns data as json
Nov 03 09:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise this exists as internal stuff for about a year now
Nov 03 09:21:02 <FabianB_>	yeah, am fine with this being mpex protocol
Nov 03 09:21:22 <FabianB_>	just doesn't seem polished enough to qualify as standard yet
Nov 03 09:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	well no, it's a proposal
Nov 03 09:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	people should comment
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Nov 03 09:23:36 <FabianB_>	data as json in both directions would seem more consistent
Nov 03 09:24:32 <FabianB_>	even if with so few commands and payload it's easy to parse |foo|bar|baz
Nov 03 09:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	many of those commands are being issued by hand
Nov 03 09:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	json would seem like undue burden
Nov 03 09:26:23 <thestringpuller>	xml is an undue burden
Nov 03 09:26:31 <thestringpuller>	that the corporate world put on us
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Nov 03 09:34:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00049389 = 0.889 BTC [+]
Nov 03 09:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5852 @ 0.00049397 = 2.8907 BTC [+]
Nov 03 09:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2248 @ 0.0004942 = 1.111 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 09:41:45 <FabianB_>	well, yeah, by hand it's nicer than json
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Nov 03 09:48:44 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ moreover, the spec is not restrictive. some exchange might decide to implement STATXML too
Nov 03 09:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	that's not forbidden. but it would be weird to require exchanges to accept both json and xml imput
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Nov 03 09:53:34 <thestringpuller>	xml should be forbidden in general
Nov 03 09:54:14 <FabianB_>	yeah, who wants xml ;)
Nov 03 09:54:33 <thestringpuller>	corporations lol
Nov 03 09:56:06 <FabianB_>	wondering if there are papers on designing protocols for both computers/humans
Nov 03 09:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, in general it's a minimum standards approach
Nov 03 09:56:36 <FabianB_>	earlier protocols like smtp were(are) very easy to use for humans too
Nov 03 09:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	"have to have at least this much"
Nov 03 09:57:02 <FabianB_>	generally a nice aproach mircea_popescu
Nov 03 09:57:33 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. anyway the only one with a prayer given that there's no standards body and compliance is voluntary
Nov 03 09:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	(maybe community-driven)
Nov 03 09:58:12 <FabianB_>	standards bodies are usually too slow
Nov 03 09:59:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3952 @ 0.0004942 = 1.9531 BTC [+]
Nov 03 09:59:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0004945 = 0.4945 BTC [+]
Nov 03 09:59:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19510 @ 0.00049556 = 9.6684 BTC [+]
Nov 03 10:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	true
Nov 03 10:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	but the big problem is usually the lobby stuff
Nov 03 10:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	there rg you got fans https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121027.msg1314499#msg1314499
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Nov 03 11:15:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.0004897 = 7.2476 BTC [-]
Nov 03 11:24:40 <kakobrekla>	zomg teh interface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2devvvyrg&feature=youtu.be
Nov 03 11:41:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.0004897 = 8.937 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 12:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00048808 = 0.1952 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 13:22:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00049556 = 0.5947 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 13:44:22 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu:
Nov 03 13:44:28 <thestringpuller>	the man who created mpex
Nov 03 13:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24764 @ 0.00049079 = 12.1539 BTC [-]
Nov 03 13:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13936 @ 0.00049063 = 6.8374 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 14:38:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8984 @ 0.00048759 = 4.3805 BTC [-]
Nov 03 14:49:10 <jurov>	so, did kakobrekla at least to try to shed some light on the accusations somehow?
Nov 03 14:49:21 <jurov>	or just having lulz with his boss?
Nov 03 14:53:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 817 @ 0.20698633 = 169.1078 BTC [-]
Nov 03 14:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik.
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Nov 03 15:06:49 <thestrin1puller>	calls are getting sold?
Nov 03 15:11:11 <jurov>	what do you mean?
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Nov 03 15:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00048759 = 0.4632 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 15:54:54 <Diablo-D3>	http://codinginmysleep.com/bitcoinstore-com-launch-cheaper-in-bitcoin/
Nov 03 15:54:56 <Diablo-D3>	ohrly
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Nov 03 16:24:11 <smickles_>	 < jurov> so, did kakobrekla at least to try to shed some light on the accusations somehow? <<< whatnow?
Nov 03 16:36:38 <jurov>	i'm just interested
Nov 03 16:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6572 @ 0.00049058 = 3.2241 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 16:50:34 <smickles_>	jurov: what accusations?
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Nov 03 16:51:46 <jurov>	smickles_: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114821.msg1313361#msg1313361
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Nov 03 16:53:19 <jurov>	and I put myself the FSA Registration# from bit4x site into FSA form and it was assigned to some other company that went defunct in 2004
Nov 03 16:55:02 <smickles>	huh
Nov 03 16:55:03 <jurov>	 <kakobrekla> [00:14:01] i showed that posts to my superior, teh boss, he was rolling of the floor.
Nov 03 16:55:15 <jurov>	that was the reply
Nov 03 16:55:21 <smickles>	rolling of the floor?
Nov 03 16:55:53 <jurov>	dunno, maybe they rolled 'em together with carpet and hauled away, ya know
Nov 03 16:56:02 <smickles>	heh
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Nov 03 17:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	this has all the makings of adventure
Nov 03 17:03:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9020 @ 0.00048886 = 4.4095 BTC [-]
Nov 03 17:04:07 <jurov>	i wasn't going to invest there anyway
Nov 03 17:04:19 <jurov>	since he wasn't able to clearly explain me here how can one trade currencies with pure BTC balance and without need for any hedging, maybe you remember
Nov 03 17:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	myeah
Nov 03 17:04:47 <jurov>	but i did not suspect such wholesale scam, then
Nov 03 17:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	myeah. kakobrekla you'll have to make an answer to that thing, it's ruining you.
Nov 03 17:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate patrickharnett -10 Scammer of the Peter Lambert school. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915
Nov 03 17:08:36 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user patrickharnett has been recorded.
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Nov 03 17:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12935 @ 0.00048764 = 6.3076 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 17:51:02 <smickles>	fwiw, :o
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Nov 03 18:13:32 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, just to nitpick, who got the recent s.dice dividend ? it wasn't exactly divisible number :)
Nov 03 18:14:34 <jurov>	and was it 1 satoshi or 94 as website shows?
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Nov 03 18:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	jurov here's the whole story :
Nov 03 18:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees sent 1 satoshi originally. predictably, nothing happened.
Nov 03 18:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	so we talked and he sent 100. 94 of these were actually distributed, 6 were lost in rounding
Nov 03 18:16:25 <jurov>	hehe
Nov 03 18:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	if you had enough shares to qualify you got one (or more) else you got nothing
Nov 03 18:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	there's no practical way to do better than that tho, so.
Nov 03 18:17:34 <jurov>	ofc. just curious
Nov 03 18:18:16 <jurov>	he should made a raffle for that 1 satoshi
Nov 03 18:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 03 18:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9031 @ 0.00048759 = 4.4034 BTC [-]
Nov 03 18:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28069 @ 0.0004875 = 13.6836 BTC [-]
Nov 03 18:20:32 <FabianB>	too many ppl won at s.dice this month?
Nov 03 18:20:43 <jurov>	no, there was a bug
Nov 03 18:21:03 <jurov>	you're in fact correct, in a sense :)
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Nov 03 18:22:06 <FabianB>	:)
Nov 03 18:22:09 <FabianB>	ic
Nov 03 18:25:42 <mircea_popescu>	what bug ?!
Nov 03 18:28:01 <smickles>	;;calc 2/94
Nov 03 18:28:02 <gribble>	0.0212765957447
Nov 03 18:28:09 <smickles>	;P
Nov 03 18:28:10 <jurov>	mircea, i remember rg boasting he is getting some bitcoins off sd that shouldn't be there
Nov 03 18:29:04 <smickles>	seems to me that this recent dividend shows it's all going according to plan
Nov 03 18:29:08 <smickles>	variance
Nov 03 18:29:50 <smickles>	didn't it lose (hundreds|thousands) each month for a couple of months straight at the beginning?
Nov 03 18:33:40 <smickles>	jurov: are you talking about the delay payment of winnings bug?
Nov 03 18:34:40 <smickles>	'cause i don't think that bug cost them any money
Nov 03 18:34:49 <jurov>	dunno. my memory tries to convince me there was some sd leak last month
Nov 03 18:35:38 <jurov>	scumbag memory. there isn't anyhing in logs.
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Nov 03 18:36:19 <smickles>	heh, scumbag memory, well, if you do come across something like a money losing bug, i'd like to know :)
Nov 03 18:37:25 *	smickles sits and waits for -junior to double spend sd regularly
Nov 03 18:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	jurov iirc rg was just being lucky.
Nov 03 18:38:37 <jurov>	oh wait found something
Nov 03 18:38:47 <jurov>	 <rg>     [21:12:37] hm i think satoshidice just messed up
Nov 03 18:39:02 <jurov>	<rg>     [21:13:00] it was meant to send me .8 btc if it was a winner
Nov 03 18:39:14 <jurov>	<rg>     [21:13:03] it sent 1.2 btc
Nov 03 18:40:11 <jurov>	<rg>     [21:13:39] that's what i use satoshidice for now
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Nov 03 18:40:23 <jurov>	 <rg>     [21:13:44] i take like .1 btc
Nov 03 18:40:35 <jurov>	 <rg>     [21:13:48] and turn it into 1.5
Nov 03 18:40:47 <jurov>	<rg>     [21:13:57] its worked 3 days in a row
Nov 03 18:41:12 <jurov>	dunno which day that was, should be sometime in october
Nov 03 18:42:01 <jurov>	to me smells like a bug
Nov 03 18:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	iirc it was in like august
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Nov 03 18:43:26 <jurov>	whatever.
Nov 03 18:43:54 <smickles>	was this b/f or after rg learned simple arithmetic </jk>
Nov 03 18:44:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8931 @ 0.0004875 = 4.3539 BTC [-]
Nov 03 18:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00048745 = 16.2808 BTC [-]
Nov 03 18:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14069 @ 0.00048734 = 6.8564 BTC [-]
Nov 03 18:45:56 <jurov>	right below that is link to "shareholders on welfare" article that is dated October 22
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Nov 03 18:46:13 <jurov>	so it certainly wasn't in august.
Nov 03 18:49:21 <jurov>	so this is what i have. or am i really a conspiration nut?
Nov 03 18:51:11 <jurov>	or if rg's broken arithmetic is paying him lunches, i wanna some too
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Nov 03 18:54:38 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i recall rg saying he's making money on sd back in aug or so
Nov 03 18:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	this may be different set.
Nov 03 18:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, i don't think there's any bug, just variance.
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Nov 03 18:56:46 <jurov>	what are the odds to turn 0.1 btc into a lunch three times in row?
Nov 03 18:57:07 <jurov>	just variance?
Nov 03 18:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	well you see, the house edge is just 1% or so
Nov 03 18:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	but if you apply l'hospital you can calculate the odds
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Nov 03 18:59:58 <smickles>	woah, i have 32 bux in unpaid adsense
Nov 03 19:00:12 <smickles>	last i checked i had less than 5
Nov 03 19:02:02 <smickles>	oh wait
Nov 03 19:02:06 <smickles>	nvm
Nov 03 19:03:17 <jurov>	winning 0.1->12.5 btc is equivalent to "lessthan 512" with win odds of 0.7813%
Nov 03 19:03:44 <jurov>	dunno how can rg or l'hospital make a consistent strategy from it
Nov 03 19:06:01 <jurov>	no it was 0.1->1.5 btc that's "lessthan 4000" with win odds of 6.1% ...still
Nov 03 19:06:25 <jurov>	my brain is shutting down, too late
Nov 03 19:08:14 <Anduck>	smickles: which pays better, bitcoin ad networks or adsense?
Nov 03 19:08:20 <Anduck>	any idea?
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Nov 03 19:10:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00048854 = 9.1113 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 19:23:07 <smickles>	Anduck: i can't answer that without lying or researching, and I'm not doing either right now ;)
Nov 03 19:23:18 <Anduck>	alright.
Nov 03 19:23:21 <Anduck>	thanks still!
Nov 03 19:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	jurov l'hospital just tells you what are the odds of a certain distribution based on the odds of the process
Nov 03 19:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	for isntance if you toss a coin, you can use l'hospital to calculate the odds of getting three heads in a row followed by four tails in a row
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Nov 03 19:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00048734 = 8.3579 BTC [-]
Nov 03 19:39:35 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 03 19:39:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.56501, Best ask: 10.64199, Bid-ask spread: 0.07698, Last trade: 10.64200, 24 hour volume: 16450.39563539, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.65000, 24 hour vwap: 10.53359
Nov 03 19:42:15 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 03 19:42:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.56501, Best ask: 10.64199, Bid-ask spread: 0.07698, Last trade: 10.64200, 24 hour volume: 16450.39563539, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.65000, 24 hour vwap: 10.53359
Nov 03 19:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;tricker
Nov 03 19:43:24 <gribble>	Error: "tricker" is not a valid command.
Nov 03 19:43:27 <mircea_popescu>	pfff
Nov 03 19:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	districkination.
Nov 03 19:48:45 <smickles>	;;tickler
Nov 03 19:48:45 <gribble>	Error: "tickler" is not a valid command.
Nov 03 19:48:57 <smickles>	pff, distraction
Nov 03 19:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Nov 03 19:58:25 <smickles>	omg
Nov 03 19:58:46 <smickles>	there was an f.giga trade yesterday?
Nov 03 20:02:00 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it looks as if, when I launch the thing, my bot will beat your bot by about .02btc on some strikes (if it were running now
Nov 03 20:02:04 <smickles>	)
Nov 03 20:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	define beat ?
Nov 03 20:02:32 <smickles>	offer a better price
Nov 03 20:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00048854 = 2.1251 BTC [+]
Nov 03 20:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10547 @ 0.00048902 = 5.1577 BTC [+]
Nov 03 20:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11603 @ 0.00048958 = 5.6806 BTC [+]
Nov 03 20:10:24 <smickles>	I just love how my ideas for bots are so plain and simple,
Nov 03 20:10:44 <smickles>	but by the time that simple idea is translated into code,
Nov 03 20:11:21 <smickles>	it's this complex leviathan floating around and eating worlds
Nov 03 20:17:04 <smickles>	although, part of that may be due to the vagaries of english
Nov 03 20:27:33 <thestrin1puller>	smickles!
Nov 03 20:28:02 <thestrin1puller>	monopoly today?
Nov 03 20:30:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00048833 = 21.0959 BTC [-]
Nov 03 20:30:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00048734 = 0.6092 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 20:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i see. WAR!!1
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Nov 03 20:45:51 <thestrin1puller>	no wars please
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Nov 03 20:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00048958 = 7.05 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 21:05:47 <thestrin1puller>	;;ticker
Nov 03 21:05:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.59098, Best ask: 10.59998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00900, Last trade: 10.59098, 24 hour volume: 16062.37847763, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.67000, 24 hour vwap: 10.54632
Nov 03 21:05:57 <thestrin1puller>	;;ticker
Nov 03 21:05:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.59098, Best ask: 10.59998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00900, Last trade: 10.59098, 24 hour volume: 16062.37847763, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.67000, 24 hour vwap: 10.54632
Nov 03 21:06:16 <thestrin1puller>	;;ticker
Nov 03 21:06:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.59098, Best ask: 10.59998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00900, Last trade: 10.59098, 24 hour volume: 16012.84847763, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.67000, 24 hour vwap: 10.54670
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Nov 03 21:11:23 <smickles>	thestrin1puller: this war would result in better option premiums for you
Nov 03 21:16:28 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 03 21:16:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.60000, Best ask: 10.63999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 10.60000, 24 hour volume: 16067.85771280, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.67000, 24 hour vwap: 10.54722
Nov 03 21:16:32 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 03 21:16:33 <gribble>	10.49
Nov 03 21:21:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22597 @ 0.00048958 = 11.063 BTC [+]
Nov 03 21:21:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10753 @ 0.00049099 = 5.2796 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 21:46:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.0004891 = 13.4013 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 22:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14249 @ 0.00048734 = 6.9441 BTC [-]
Nov 03 22:12:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23730 @ 0.00048726 = 11.5627 BTC [-]
Nov 03 22:12:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6640 @ 0.00048725 = 3.2353 BTC [-]
Nov 03 22:12:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2581 @ 0.00048724 = 1.2576 BTC [-]
Nov 03 22:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00048843 = 2.6864 BTC [+]
Nov 03 22:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00049099 = 19.0995 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 23:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3347 @ 0.00049099 = 1.6433 BTC [+]
Nov 03 23:03:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.000491 = 16.5713 BTC [+]
Nov 03 23:03:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2203 @ 0.0004944 = 1.0892 BTC [+]
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Nov 03 23:28:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10528 @ 0.00048724 = 5.1297 BTC [-]
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Nov 03 23:54:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18995 @ 0.00048838 = 9.2768 BTC [+]
Nov 03 23:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37100 @ 0.00048832 = 18.1167 BTC [-]
Nov 03 23:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 555 @ 0.00048724 = 0.2704 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 00:21:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00048756 = 11.7502 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 00:46:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17361 @ 0.00048724 = 8.459 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 01:11:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 940 @ 0.00048724 = 0.458 BTC [-]
Nov 04 01:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.0004871 = 4.6275 BTC [-]
Nov 04 01:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7810 @ 0.00048697 = 3.8032 BTC [-]
Nov 04 01:37:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6385 @ 0.00048697 = 3.1093 BTC [-]
Nov 04 01:37:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24119 @ 0.00048681 = 11.7414 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 01:02:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15081 @ 0.00048681 = 7.3416 BTC [-]
Nov 04 01:02:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.00048652 = 15.593 BTC [-]
Nov 04 01:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2670 @ 0.00048646 = 1.2988 BTC [-]
Nov 04 01:02:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2526 @ 0.00048636 = 1.2285 BTC [-]
Nov 04 01:28:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00048756 = 4.388 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 01:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00049037 = 9.6603 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 02:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.0004944 = 6.1058 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 02:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7047 @ 0.0004944 = 3.484 BTC [+]
Nov 04 02:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15790 @ 0.00049556 = 7.8249 BTC [+]
Nov 04 02:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2013 @ 0.00049557 = 0.9976 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 03:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6536 @ 0.00049267 = 3.2201 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 03:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00048792 = 5.2939 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 04:01:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00048792 = 4.5133 BTC [-]
Nov 04 04:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25687 @ 0.00048778 = 12.5296 BTC [-]
Nov 04 04:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 710 @ 0.00048636 = 0.3453 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 04:26:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20833 @ 0.00048636 = 10.1323 BTC [-]
Nov 04 04:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27386 @ 0.00048632 = 13.3184 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 04:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15695 @ 0.000486 = 7.6278 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 05:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8955 @ 0.000486 = 4.3521 BTC [-]
Nov 04 05:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13795 @ 0.00048591 = 6.7031 BTC [-]
Nov 04 05:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20055 @ 0.00048591 = 9.7449 BTC [-]
Nov 04 05:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19145 @ 0.00048587 = 9.302 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 06:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1335 @ 0.00048581 = 0.6486 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 06:21:33 <kakobreklaaa>	http://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/other/virtualcurrencyschemes201210en.pdf
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Nov 04 06:22:38 <kakobreklaaa>	hehehe
Nov 04 06:22:50 <kakobreklaaa>	still no legal placement
Nov 04 06:22:52 <kakobreklaaa>	;)
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Nov 04 06:32:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33565 @ 0.00048581 = 16.3062 BTC [-]
Nov 04 06:32:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10635 @ 0.00048576 = 5.1661 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 07:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2235 @ 0.00048564 = 1.0854 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 07:49:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00048564 = 5.9248 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 08:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28965 @ 0.00048564 = 14.0666 BTC [-]
Nov 04 08:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7549 @ 0.00048561 = 3.6659 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 09:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00048794 = 15.9312 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 09:34:24 <mircea_popescu>	rillions of dollars worth of stock certificates and other paper securities that were stored in a vault in lower Manhattan may have suffered water damage from Superstorm Sandy.
Nov 04 09:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	awww
Nov 04 09:55:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3277 @ 0.00048794 = 1.599 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 11:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19433 @ 0.00048525 = 9.4299 BTC [-]
Nov 04 11:12:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16467 @ 0.00048511 = 7.9883 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 11:54:39 <kakobrekla>	finally got my hands on http://shrani.si/f/19/sx/1C48WCzZ/imag0254.jpg
Nov 04 11:57:09 <pigeons>	how's the forex stuff going kakobrekla?
Nov 04 11:57:18 <kakobrekla>	excellent
Nov 04 11:58:05 <pigeons>	nice. good respons from bitcoin folks?
Nov 04 11:58:26 <kakobrekla>	idiots without money who cant do math say its a scam, the rest of the folks is making money
Nov 04 11:58:28 <kakobrekla>	the usual.
Nov 04 11:58:48 <pigeons>	cool
Nov 04 11:59:17 <kakobrekla>	the best trader is enky by far tho
Nov 04 11:59:23 <kakobrekla>	he is up almost 50% now
Nov 04 11:59:42 <kakobrekla>	he really stands out.
Nov 04 12:03:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00048574 = 7.9661 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 12:19:20 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: interesting read. Thank you for the link
Nov 04 12:20:15 <kakobrekla>	yw :)
Nov 04 12:28:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1033 @ 0.00048511 = 0.5011 BTC [-]
Nov 04 12:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18037 @ 0.00048499 = 8.7478 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 12:41:40 <jurov>	kakobrekla, that's not exactly what i was expecting to hear, you know
Nov 04 12:49:39 <kakobrekla>	yeah well, it is what it is.
Nov 04 12:54:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22627 @ 0.00048574 = 10.9908 BTC [+]
Nov 04 12:54:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19673 @ 0.00048642 = 9.5693 BTC [+]
Nov 04 12:56:52 <mircea_popescu>	i don't get it. that website lifted off the insignia from the real winner and is using someone else's fsa number
Nov 04 12:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	you don't see a problem with this because "everyone is making money" ?
Nov 04 12:57:17 <kakobrekla>	its not someone elses fsa
Nov 04 12:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	isn't it ?
Nov 04 12:57:37 <kakobrekla>	nope
Nov 04 12:57:53 <mircea_popescu>	well how are people to know this ?!
Nov 04 12:58:20 <kakobrekla>	i told it in the thread and its clear if one intalls MT4
Nov 04 12:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	i must have missed that.
Nov 04 12:58:43 <Diablo-D3>	[12:56:52] <mircea_popescu> i don't get it. that website lifted off the insignia from the real winner and is using someone else's fsa number
Nov 04 12:58:43 <Diablo-D3>	?
Nov 04 12:59:58 <kakobrekla>	that bottom logo though, yea it should be replaced with a more apropriate one - they wanted to have some mt4 award listed
Nov 04 13:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 this bit4x thing
Nov 04 13:00:06 <Diablo-D3>	what is it
Nov 04 13:00:39 <drekk>	Diablo-D3, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114818.0;topicseen
Nov 04 13:01:02 <Diablo-D3>	damn, I cant lock the thread.
Nov 04 13:01:17 <mircea_popescu>	why lock the thread ?
Nov 04 13:01:22 <Diablo-D3>	scam
Nov 04 13:01:27 <kakobrekla>	...
Nov 04 13:01:28 <drekk>	:D
Nov 04 13:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	so who's worthitfs.com ?!
Nov 04 13:04:22 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/3E/3n/49Dt3vRo/vfx.png
Nov 04 13:04:34 <kakobrekla>	venetfx is brandname
Nov 04 13:05:04 <mircea_popescu>	that's a virtual offices address ;/
Nov 04 13:05:17 <kakobrekla>	so?
Nov 04 13:05:25 <Diablo-D3>	so its probably a scam
Nov 04 13:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.bobbear.co.uk/finance.html
Nov 04 13:05:33 <drekk>	mircea_popescu, how can you tell?
Nov 04 13:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	drekk i know things in london.
Nov 04 13:05:49 <kakobrekla>	cause they live in slovenia?
Nov 04 13:05:52 <drekk>	ok
Nov 04 13:06:25 <kakobrekla>	i know them for about a year now
Nov 04 13:06:48 <kakobrekla>	i wouldnt go out on this if i wasnt sure whats happenin
Nov 04 13:07:04 <kakobrekla>	also, i keep all deposits and now they want me to keep the profits too
Nov 04 13:07:15 <kakobrekla>	which i kinda hate but well see
Nov 04 13:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	so the story here is, some people you know irl rented out offices from virtual-serviced-offices.co.uk
Nov 04 13:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	and what, bought the defunct worth it company ?
Nov 04 13:09:26 <kakobrekla>	dunno what was bought at which point but i can ask if you really wanna know
Nov 04 13:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	i absolutely want to know yes.
Nov 04 13:10:56 <kakobrekla>	sure ill ask.
Nov 04 13:11:16 <kakobrekla>	you can check its not a bucketshop - admd is the currenex link provider
Nov 04 13:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	honestly, there's two constructions that can be made on the data as-is. either these are some kids with a bright idea and absolutely no clue on how these things work, or else it's as deep as the tar pit goes.
Nov 04 13:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	but putting awards and fsa numbers on a site that can't be backed up is asking for trouble
Nov 04 13:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	gratuitously, i might add.
Nov 04 13:13:35 <kakobrekla>	the guy in charge was in the pit in the states for ~20 years
Nov 04 13:13:43 <kakobrekla>	came back to his home
Nov 04 13:13:49 <kakobrekla>	few years ago
Nov 04 13:13:53 <jurov>	so put some proof about THAT to the site
Nov 04 13:14:07 <jurov>	not whatever you have there now
Nov 04 13:18:33 <jurov>	and of course, explaining how one can trade currencies without any conversions from/to bitcoin whatsoever would help much
Nov 04 13:18:50 <kakobrekla>	seriosuly?
Nov 04 13:18:54 <kakobrekla>	you dont get it?
Nov 04 13:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7205 @ 0.00048642 = 3.5047 BTC [+]
Nov 04 13:19:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1745 @ 0.00049032 = 0.8556 BTC [+]
Nov 04 13:19:34 <jurov>	i don't indeed. and i'm not alone. similar transparency like MPOE business model - only "secret sauce" is their bot's pricing
Nov 04 13:19:43 <kakobrekla>	the other thing, i havent mentione, i dont get paid from people who blow their acounts or cant do math
Nov 04 13:20:10 <kakobrekla>	there is no iniciative for me to have gather forex newbs on this
Nov 04 13:20:40 <jurov>	that's no proof. and then, why do you advertise at btctalk?
Nov 04 13:21:06 <kakobrekla>	one banner for 0.11
Nov 04 13:21:08 <kakobrekla>	cant hurt.
Nov 04 13:21:18 <kakobrekla>	that was all.
Nov 04 13:22:00 <jurov>	while even MPOE-PR did patiently explain their stuff, you're apparently too good for that.
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Nov 04 13:22:53 <kakobrekla>	well some people seem to understand it all from the info on the site, if one cant, i advise against forex trading in any denomination.
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Nov 04 13:23:38 <kakobrekla>	this is not bitcoinica
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Nov 04 13:25:53 <drekk>	fair enough. too many red flags for me. not touching it.
Nov 04 13:26:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol @even mpoe-pr
Nov 04 13:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	what, the girl's the standard of evil ?
Nov 04 13:27:28 <jurov>	haha, i like to use her as such
Nov 04 13:27:31 <EskimoBob>	no, for really shitty PR
Nov 04 13:28:17 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: when is SEC going after your hairy ass for offering unreg. sec for US citizens? :)
Nov 04 13:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, im still waiting for the child porn people.
Nov 04 13:28:44 <kakobrekla>	Mircea_Dotcom
Nov 04 13:28:54 <drekk>	lol
Nov 04 13:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e pressures there were going to be last month
Nov 04 13:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	as announced by glbse folks
Nov 04 13:29:15 <EskimoBob>	lol
Nov 04 13:29:49 <EskimoBob>	fuck, I forgot to ask James for the agents name
Nov 04 13:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	what agent ?
Nov 04 13:32:09 <EskimoBob>	FSA
Nov 04 13:32:19 <EskimoBob>	who told him to close down or
Nov 04 13:32:32 <EskimoBob>	brrr... this is low https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114818.msg1313374#msg1313374
Nov 04 13:33:00 <kakobrekla>	hm shitload of posts seem to be deleted
Nov 04 13:33:15 <Diablo-D3>	NBC was hacked, LOL: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/
Nov 04 13:36:26 <Diablo-D3>	bwahahahah
Nov 04 13:36:27 <Diablo-D3>	oh man
Nov 04 13:36:45 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.msg1316522#msg1316522
Nov 04 13:36:52 <Diablo-D3>	he tries to call me out
Nov 04 13:36:53 <Diablo-D3>	lolololol
Nov 04 13:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	i see the asic drama is still going strong
Nov 04 13:40:36 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: callin you out is not that hard :) How's your solar farm business doing?
Nov 04 13:41:14 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: I see what you did thar.
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Nov 04 13:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26863 @ 0.00048499 = 13.0283 BTC [-]
Nov 04 13:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14534 @ 0.00048487 = 7.0471 BTC [-]
Nov 04 13:45:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12603 @ 0.00048485 = 6.1106 BTC [-]
Nov 04 13:45:32 <EskimoBob>	MeSarah post is long and I do not really care about all the mining blaablaa at the moment
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Nov 04 13:46:31 <EskimoBob>	it still amazes me what those lunatics are willing to invest and do just to make 1 USD per day an hope they can get their "investment" back in a year or never
Nov 04 13:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	people will do anything to be in.
Nov 04 13:56:01 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: yeah, I could make more money on the fucking stock market
Nov 04 13:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	you or in general ?!
Nov 04 13:56:36 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: in general
Nov 04 13:56:45 <Diablo-D3>	Im not claiming some super secret investment strategy here
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Nov 04 13:58:45 <EskimoBob>	" Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: yeah, I could make more money on the fucking stock market " - Diablo-D3: mmm... sure you can. Do I really need to remind you of your fabulous investment portfolio, where you managed to piss away close to 90% of investors money? :) LOL
Nov 04 13:59:23 <Diablo-D3>	not really, because it never happened
Nov 04 13:59:31 <EskimoBob>	i was told you can code. Code then and make money with that
Nov 04 13:59:47 <Diablo-D3>	although the hilarious part is nefario may end up paying for it in the end for lying to everyone
Nov 04 14:00:09 <EskimoBob>	dude, you are like usagi :)
Nov 04 14:00:12 <Diablo-D3>	I like how he used a fake shutdown of DMC to stall for time too
Nov 04 14:00:24 <Diablo-D3>	he knew what was happening long before he attacked DMC
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Nov 04 14:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	why didn';t you say anything ?
Nov 04 14:02:09 <EskimoBob>	btw, where is this little shit bird usagi hiding now days?
Nov 04 14:02:31 <kakobrekla>	;;seen usagi
Nov 04 14:02:31 <gribble>	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <usagi> i don't come on irc much anymore because i am sick, but i will be back later.
Nov 04 14:02:40 <kakobrekla>	cancer?
Nov 04 14:02:53 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 did not know shit and the shut down was requested by form members because thy realized that Diablo-D3 is pissing the coins away
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Nov 04 14:03:22 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I said lots of things. No one listened.
Nov 04 14:03:29 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: no, serious yellow fever
Nov 04 14:03:30 <Diablo-D3>	in the end, I was proven right
Nov 04 14:03:43 <kakobrekla>	i was expecting someone to say aids.
Nov 04 14:03:44 <Diablo-D3>	nefario personally walked off with about 2k of DMC's money.
Nov 04 14:03:54 <EskimoBob>	he was scamming some poor fuck for CC payment so he can join some jap web site
Nov 04 14:04:33 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: DMC had no BTC left at least it was not visible in the statements you published
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Nov 04 14:05:28 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: since the paper of other companies is now worthless, he is obligated to fix this.
Nov 04 14:05:36 <Diablo-D3>	he is also obligated to repay the DMC investors in full.
Nov 04 14:05:42 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Nov 04 14:05:44 <pigeons>	hold your breath for that
Nov 04 14:05:51 <Diablo-D3>	I will also accept prison time as an acceptable method of repayment.
Nov 04 14:06:07 <Diablo-D3>	And hes not going to be able to talk his way out of that one
Nov 04 14:06:26 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: you sold unreg's sec for US citizens, are you guys going to share a cell?
Nov 04 14:06:52 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: nope, I sold nothing.
Nov 04 14:07:00 <EskimoBob>	really?
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Nov 04 14:07:02 <drekk>	not this again
Nov 04 14:07:07 <Diablo-D3>	and nefario as lied about the legality of glbse
Nov 04 14:07:10 *	drekk is now known as drekkAFK
Nov 04 14:07:19 <Diablo-D3>	I am not responsible for his actions, and I never will be.
Nov 04 14:07:37 <Diablo-D3>	He fucked every Bitcoin user, no matter if they invested in GLBSE or not, no mater if they invested in DMC or not
Nov 04 14:07:40 <EskimoBob>	no Diablo-D3, only your actions :)
Nov 04 14:07:44 <Diablo-D3>	Im not sure why you're standing up for that twat.
Nov 04 14:08:01 <EskimoBob>	no, that was Trendon, who fucked every BTC user
Nov 04 14:08:18 <EskimoBob>	I am not standing for that twat at all
Nov 04 14:08:35 <Diablo-D3>	DMC would have legitimized Bitcoin as a way to crowdfund small businesses
Nov 04 14:08:39 <Diablo-D3>	and now we dont have that.
Nov 04 14:08:50 <kakobrekla>	part of glbse trouble might be ppt's but im not saying nefario is free to walk like he did
Nov 04 14:08:55 <Diablo-D3>	BTC could have reached $100 by the end of next year, and now it probably wont.
Nov 04 14:09:05 <EskimoBob>	really?
Nov 04 14:09:09 <Diablo-D3>	nefario screwed us badly.
Nov 04 14:09:37 <EskimoBob>	did you forget all about that shitbag Trendon?
Nov 04 14:09:47 <EskimoBob>	he is the guy who really fucked us all.
Nov 04 14:10:00 <pigeons>	just because trendon is a shitbacg in no way whatsoever excuses nefario
Nov 04 14:10:09 <EskimoBob>	GLBSE crap can be fixed, what trendon and his friends did... can not
Nov 04 14:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	everything can be fixed.
Nov 04 14:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2549 @ 0.00048485 = 1.2359 BTC [-]
Nov 04 14:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29570 @ 0.0004848 = 14.3355 BTC [-]
Nov 04 14:10:40 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: which one was Trendon again?
Nov 04 14:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	aspirate.
Nov 04 14:10:56 <Diablo-D3>	just say pirate damnit
Nov 04 14:10:58 <pigeons>	glbse cannot be fixed. even if james returns the asset lists, which it reasonably appears he never will, most of those projects are screwed
Nov 04 14:11:12 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: yes, DMC wont be starting back up no matter what
Nov 04 14:11:17 <Diablo-D3>	Im slowly going to buy back shares, and then thats it
Nov 04 14:11:18 <jurov>	folks, be glad it happened now. if any of it happened after bitcoin is legally recognized, that would be shit on completely different level
Nov 04 14:11:21 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: don't try to be cute
Nov 04 14:11:31 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: I dont do real name shit
Nov 04 14:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons fixing means fixing you know ?
Nov 04 14:11:42 <Diablo-D3>	and I never paid attention to the pirate shit anyhow
Nov 04 14:11:51 <Diablo-D3>	I told people it was a scam from the beginning, they didnt listen, thats their own problem
Nov 04 14:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol this dude's fascinating.
Nov 04 14:12:16 <kakobrekla>	yeah, but people got back more money of pirate than DMC
Nov 04 14:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	so you told everyone about glbse, and pirate and what else ?!
Nov 04 14:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	no sandy ?
Nov 04 14:12:50 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I never said anything about glbse, you did
Nov 04 14:13:17 <pigeons>	let's just all decide the same person to hate on
Nov 04 14:13:32 <kakobrekla>	lol
Nov 04 14:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	gmaxwell.
Nov 04 14:13:47 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: and yes, I should have listened and I didnt
Nov 04 14:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	well there's always tomorro
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Nov 04 14:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41359 @ 0.00048845 = 20.2018 BTC [+]
Nov 04 14:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7241 @ 0.00049032 = 3.5504 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 15:02:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00048552 = 10.9242 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 15:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24830 @ 0.0004848 = 12.0376 BTC [-]
Nov 04 15:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16669 @ 0.00048478 = 8.0808 BTC [-]
Nov 04 15:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00048475 = 12.6035 BTC [-]
Nov 04 15:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2253 @ 0.00048467 = 1.092 BTC [-]
Nov 04 15:52:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00048552 = 9.4676 BTC [+]
Nov 04 15:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00048842 = 4.8842 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 16:09:37 <Lyspooner>	hello all, what is good?
Nov 04 16:11:07 <kakobrekla>	hi
Nov 04 16:11:10 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin is good.
Nov 04 16:11:34 <Lyspooner>	indeed!
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Nov 04 16:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00048574 = 7.1161 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 16:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5185 @ 0.00048571 = 2.5184 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 17:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00048718 = 3.5564 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 17:18:47 <dub>	;;ticker
Nov 04 17:18:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.55001, Best ask: 10.59500, Bid-ask spread: 0.04499, Last trade: 10.59970, 24 hour volume: 10630.99680636, 24 hour low: 10.51002, 24 hour high: 10.68000, 24 hour vwap: 10.59514
Nov 04 17:18:55 <dub>	bad bitcoin, no biscuit
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Nov 04 17:27:16 <FabianB_>	10 is nice to calculate, good price
Nov 04 17:28:20 <kakobrekla>	well tbh 1 is even easier :)
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Nov 04 17:34:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46784 @ 0.00048632 = 22.752 BTC [-]
Nov 04 17:34:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10866 @ 0.00048528 = 5.2731 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 17:59:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30654 @ 0.00048528 = 14.8758 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 18:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5642 @ 0.00048528 = 2.7379 BTC [-]
Nov 04 18:25:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37128 @ 0.00048516 = 18.013 BTC [-]
Nov 04 18:25:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15730 @ 0.00048467 = 7.6239 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 18:52:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00048718 = 1.2667 BTC [+]
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Nov 04 19:13:01 <thestrin1puller>	mr. smickles
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Nov 04 19:17:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00048842 = 9.28 BTC [+]
Nov 04 19:43:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9392 @ 0.00048842 = 4.5872 BTC [+]
Nov 04 19:43:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18675 @ 0.00049006 = 9.1519 BTC [+]
Nov 04 19:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12176 @ 0.00049027 = 5.9695 BTC [+]
Nov 04 19:43:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9457 @ 0.00049032 = 4.637 BTC [+]
Nov 04 20:08:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00048734 = 3.6063 BTC [-]
Nov 04 20:08:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00048587 = 1.5062 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 20:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00048587 = 11.1264 BTC [-]
Nov 04 20:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4138 @ 0.00048554 = 2.0092 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 20:59:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00048857 = 6.2048 BTC [+]
Nov 04 20:59:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00048554 = 2.8161 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 21:25:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16205 @ 0.00048554 = 7.8682 BTC [-]
Nov 04 21:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9895 @ 0.00048467 = 4.7958 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 21:41:47 <SuckMyWub>	hey wub ball sucking sacks of wub shit
Nov 04 21:41:48 <SuckMyWub>	wsup?
Nov 04 21:41:54 <copumpkin>	sigh
Nov 04 21:42:02 <SuckMyWub>	:)
Nov 04 21:42:22 <copumpkin>	can't you do something productive? it seems kind of sad that you spend so much time trolling
Nov 04 21:43:46 <SuckMyWub>	I am doing productive suck I'm premining on asics
Nov 04 21:43:50 <SuckMyWub>	and playing 5 games at once
Nov 04 21:43:53 <SuckMyWub>	cause I'm cool like that
Nov 04 21:43:56 <SuckMyWub>	and fuck the system
Nov 04 21:45:59 <thestringpuller>	he does get the chanel moving
Nov 04 21:46:03 <thestringpuller>	hi copumpkin how are you?
Nov 04 21:46:13 <copumpkin>	I am quite fine!
Nov 04 21:46:20 <copumpkin>	still intact, despite halloween
Nov 04 21:47:02 <thestringpuller>	halloween was a good day
Nov 04 21:47:15 <thestringpuller>	good day to sell without pushing the market down
Nov 04 21:48:00 <SuckMyWub>	hey do you guys wanna play a game?
Nov 04 21:48:09 <thestringpuller>	monopoly
Nov 04 21:48:13 <SuckMyWub>	seriously it's fun
Nov 04 21:48:16 <thestringpuller>	100 btc
Nov 04 21:48:20 <SuckMyWub>	you go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself
Nov 04 21:48:21 <thestringpuller>	buy in
Nov 04 21:48:24 <SuckMyWub>	it's an awesome game
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Nov 04 21:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39407 @ 0.00048467 = 19.0994 BTC [-]
Nov 04 21:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 193 @ 0.00048462 = 0.0935 BTC [-]
Nov 04 21:55:01 <thestringpuller>	copumpkin: are you american?
Nov 04 22:11:07 <copumpkin>	sort of
Nov 04 22:11:26 <thestringpuller>	Do you play video games?
Nov 04 22:11:35 <copumpkin>	not really
Nov 04 22:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00048462 = 6.7362 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 22:24:05 <Chaaang-Noi>	sort of?
Nov 04 22:26:09 <pigeons>	it is my understanding that he lives in "america" at the moment
Nov 04 22:38:39 <Chaaang-Noi>	i see
Nov 04 22:38:47 <Chaaang-Noi>	i dont :)
Nov 04 22:38:58 <Chaaang-Noi>	am i sort of an american? :)
Nov 04 22:39:28 <pigeons>	sort of
Nov 04 22:40:45 <copumpkin>	I live in the US and am a US citizen
Nov 04 22:40:48 <copumpkin>	not sure I'm really very american
Nov 04 22:41:19 <copumpkin>	or rather, I adopt my americanness when convenient for travel or argument
Nov 04 22:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9007 @ 0.00048462 = 4.365 BTC [-]
Nov 04 22:43:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00048461 = 3.9738 BTC [-]
Nov 04 22:43:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14493 @ 0.0004844 = 7.0204 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 23:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10007 @ 0.0004844 = 4.8474 BTC [-]
Nov 04 23:09:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36493 @ 0.0004843 = 17.6736 BTC [-]
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Nov 04 23:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26950 @ 0.00048487 = 13.0672 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 00:00:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18056 @ 0.00048958 = 8.8399 BTC [+]
Nov 05 00:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13321 @ 0.00049032 = 6.5316 BTC [+]
Nov 05 00:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12423 @ 0.00049077 = 6.0968 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 00:26:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00048686 = 8.2279 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 00:51:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00048487 = 11.8793 BTC [-]
Nov 05 00:51:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6707 @ 0.0004843 = 3.2482 BTC [-]
Nov 05 00:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25093 @ 0.00048404 = 12.146 BTC [-]
Nov 05 01:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00048686 = 6.9378 BTC [+]
Nov 05 01:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17561 @ 0.00048752 = 8.5613 BTC [+]
Nov 05 01:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5289 @ 0.00049077 = 2.5957 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 01:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2857 @ 0.00048404 = 1.3829 BTC [-]
Nov 05 01:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24801 @ 0.00048387 = 12.0005 BTC [-]
Nov 05 01:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12842 @ 0.00048387 = 6.2139 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 02:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12946 @ 0.00048697 = 6.3043 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 02:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	ahh good mornin bitcoinland
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Nov 05 02:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19343 @ 0.00048697 = 9.4195 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 02:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00049048 = 4.2181 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 03:23:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00049048 = 7.8477 BTC [+]
Nov 05 03:23:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00049077 = 5.742 BTC [+]
Nov 05 03:34:15 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: you mean "good night"
Nov 05 03:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Nov 05 03:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	tis like 10am here
Nov 05 03:49:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00048998 = 14.8464 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 04:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.16722208 = 167.2221 BTC [+]
Nov 05 04:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.204652 = 204.652 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:11:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.25316149 = 253.1615 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 04:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.31316529 = 313.1653 BTC [+]
Nov 05 04:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.38409025 = 384.0903 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.46571611 = 465.7161 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.55732244 = 557.3224 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 04:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.16717812 = 167.1781 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:21:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.20460891 = 204.6089 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:21:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.25312058 = 253.1206 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:21:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.3131282 = 313.1282 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.38405874 = 384.0587 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:21:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.46569154 = 465.6915 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:21:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.55730535 = 557.3054 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.16676437 = 166.7644 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.20413404 = 204.134 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.25257099 = 252.571 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.31253772 = 312.5377 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:32:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.38344998 = 383.45 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.46509016 = 465.0902 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.55673896 = 556.739 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 04:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.1667204 = 166.7204 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.20409093 = 204.0909 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.25253005 = 252.5301 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.31250059 = 312.5006 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.38341842 = 383.4184 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.46506554 = 465.0655 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:42:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.55672184 = 556.7218 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:53:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.16668064 = 166.6806 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.20405194 = 204.0519 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:53:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.25249302 = 252.493 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:53:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.312467 = 312.467 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:53:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.38338989 = 383.3899 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:53:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.46504328 = 465.0433 BTC [-]
Nov 05 04:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.55670636 = 556.7064 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 05:18:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 998 @ 0.16659725 = 166.2641 BTC [-]
Nov 05 05:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 168 @ 0.20397018 = 34.267 BTC [-]
Nov 05 05:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.25241535 = 252.4154 BTC [-]
Nov 05 05:18:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.31239657 = 312.3966 BTC [-]
Nov 05 05:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.38333004 = 383.33 BTC [-]
Nov 05 05:18:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.46499661 = 464.9966 BTC [-]
Nov 05 05:18:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.55667391 = 556.6739 BTC [-]
Nov 05 05:20:06 *	drekkAFK is now known as drekk
Nov 05 05:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00048998 = 6.7617 BTC [-]
Nov 05 05:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14037 @ 0.00048877 = 6.8609 BTC [-]
Nov 05 05:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2407 @ 0.00048874 = 1.1764 BTC [-]
Nov 05 05:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	whoa nelly
Nov 05 05:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	im sold out on calls
Nov 05 05:53:24 <Chaaaang-Noi>	hmm
Nov 05 05:53:46 <Chaaaang-Noi>	some one is bullish
Nov 05 05:54:29 <Chaaaang-Noi>	extreamly bullish
Nov 05 05:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	like 35k bitcoin's worth of bullish.
Nov 05 05:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile back at the ranch, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/12nam0/one_relatively_easy_step_to_destroy_the_bitcoin/c6wo1up
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Nov 05 05:57:45 <Chaaaang-Noi>	if btc goes to 20 can you cover?
Nov 05 06:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Nov 05 06:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	if it goes to 1000 i can still cover, and even have a little bit of reserve left
Nov 05 06:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	bu not so much.
Nov 05 06:09:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10225 @ 0.00048874 = 4.9974 BTC [-]
Nov 05 06:12:50 <Chaaaang-Noi>	you pay out in btc i guess
Nov 05 06:13:25 <Chaaaang-Noi>	but that is a crazy amount of coin to send you
Nov 05 06:13:38 <Chaaaang-Noi>	thats a $400,000 long bet on btc
Nov 05 06:13:53 <Chaaaang-Noi>	its pretty reasonable id say, as we are about to halve but still...
Nov 05 06:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	why crazy ?
Nov 05 06:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	gox trades 40k a day.
Nov 05 06:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	or something like that.
Nov 05 06:19:54 <Chaaaang-Noi>	depends how deep that guys pockets are
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Nov 05 06:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	btw the entire bitcoin is money / sec bullshit
Nov 05 06:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	the recent ECB report pretty much says btc is not regulated in the eu.
Nov 05 06:23:21 <kakobrekla>	;>
Nov 05 06:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	giving nefario yet again the lie. no fsa was investigating glbse.
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Nov 05 06:34:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00048483 = 16.3388 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 06:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00048462 = 3.3681 BTC [-]
Nov 05 06:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 758 @ 0.00048387 = 0.3668 BTC [-]
Nov 05 06:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8642 @ 0.00048378 = 4.1808 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 07:00:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21558 @ 0.00048378 = 10.4293 BTC [-]
Nov 05 07:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15701 @ 0.00048366 = 7.5939 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 07:13:05 <Chaaaang-Noi>	sec is investigating pirate
Nov 05 07:13:15 <thestringpuller>	they've been investigating him
Nov 05 07:13:25 <Chaaaang-Noi>	and ppt stuff related to glbse since atleast april
Nov 05 07:13:58 <thestringpuller>	i don't think it was a scam, i think it was a conspiracy
Nov 05 07:14:04 <thestringpuller>	the pirate conspiracy
Nov 05 07:14:19 <Chaaaang-Noi>	that is what the sec wants to know
Nov 05 07:14:25 <Chaaaang-Noi>	where the ppt people in on the scam
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Nov 05 07:15:13 <Chaaaang-Noi>	some of the ppt guys are big fish that im sure the sec would love to take down, however i doubt they will just go after just pirate if that is all they can get
Nov 05 07:15:18 <Chaaaang-Noi>	will be interesting to watch
Nov 05 07:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00048705 = 6.1368 BTC [+]
Nov 05 07:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00048785 = 4.659 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 07:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0004851 = 6.1123 BTC [-]
Nov 05 08:16:38 <EskimoBob>	Chaaaang-Noi: like who? (big fish)
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Nov 05 08:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6555 @ 0.0004851 = 3.1798 BTC [-]
Nov 05 08:19:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00048402 = 4.7676 BTC [-]
Nov 05 08:19:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17249 @ 0.00048366 = 8.3427 BTC [-]
Nov 05 08:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00048365 = 4.3529 BTC [-]
Nov 05 08:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3028 @ 0.00048362 = 1.4644 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 08:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00048362 = 6.6498 BTC [-]
Nov 05 09:09:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00048504 = 9.0702 BTC [+]
Nov 05 09:16:03 <kakobrekla>	to those interested
Nov 05 09:16:03 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114821.msg1317736#msg1317736
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Nov 05 09:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00048504 = 2.9587 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 09:50:20 <EskimoBob>	https://crypto.cat/ interesting
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Nov 05 09:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00048689 = 7.4981 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 10:24:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30037 @ 0.0004867 = 14.619 BTC [-]
Nov 05 10:42:46 <kakobrekla>	goomboo should change his nick to boohoo
Nov 05 10:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27922 @ 0.00048362 = 13.5036 BTC [-]
Nov 05 10:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10778 @ 0.0004836 = 5.2122 BTC [-]
Nov 05 10:56:55 <jurov>	orly, kakobrekla?
Nov 05 10:57:36 <jurov>	can you photoshop some awards and FSA reg. numbers for coinbr, too?
Nov 05 11:00:09 <jurov>	you did NOT respond to these. Implying that FSA gave you some recycled registration number while you're waiting for papers to be processed is beyond absurd.
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Nov 05 11:07:06 <kakobrekla>	that logo might get replaced but its not really a big deal (i thought othewise as well) as there are some background stories to it but we
Nov 05 11:07:17 <kakobrekla>	as for the fsa i dont get it what is the problem
Nov 05 11:07:32 <kakobrekla>	call fsa if you are interested in finding out the details about trading in uk
Nov 05 11:07:43 <kakobrekla>	venetfx is legal there
Nov 05 11:07:47 <kakobrekla>	as everywhere else
Nov 05 11:07:56 <kakobrekla>	there is just no regulation on btc or forex in slovenia or balkan
Nov 05 11:08:05 <kakobrekla>	where a shitload of venets customersbase is
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Nov 05 11:12:11 <jurov>	Okay. Now, what can you say about this: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/8746bef7193da7358985bbb1b7ebca32/compdetails ?
Nov 05 11:12:49 <jurov>	it says "dissolved in 2004" and your FSA # points there
Nov 05 11:12:59 <kakobrekla>	i say contact fsa to give you newest info on worth ltd / venetfx
Nov 05 11:13:56 <jurov>	No comment.
Nov 05 11:14:02 <kakobrekla>	exactly
Nov 05 11:15:41 <kakobrekla>	non uk clients dont care for fsa
Nov 05 11:15:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3563 @ 0.00048584 = 1.731 BTC [+]
Nov 05 11:15:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24237 @ 0.00048689 = 11.8008 BTC [+]
Nov 05 11:16:17 <kakobrekla>	and i dont know where my bitcoin clients are from
Nov 05 11:17:27 <jurov>	i might not care for fsa, but might care if someone wants to looks reputable using fictional information
Nov 05 11:18:28 <jurov>	yes, i know this is established practice on balkans
Nov 05 11:18:59 <jurov>	so you don't see anything bad on that
Nov 05 11:19:00 <kakobrekla>	yup
Nov 05 11:19:17 <kakobrekla>	bad in what?
Nov 05 11:19:35 <kakobrekla>	its legal from where im sitting
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Nov 05 11:20:19 <jurov>	:)
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Nov 05 11:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30345 @ 0.0004836 = 14.6748 BTC [-]
Nov 05 11:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3818 @ 0.0004835 = 1.846 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 12:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78582 @ 0.0004835 = 37.9944 BTC [-]
Nov 05 12:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3718 @ 0.00048349 = 1.7976 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 12:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00048349 = 17.8891 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 12:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32 @ 0.00048349 = 0.0155 BTC [-]
Nov 05 12:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49513 @ 0.00048341 = 23.9351 BTC [-]
Nov 05 12:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9555 @ 0.00048334 = 4.6183 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 13:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00048505 = 9.7495 BTC [+]
Nov 05 13:24:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36231 @ 0.0004855 = 17.5902 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 13:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2545 @ 0.00048334 = 1.2301 BTC [-]
Nov 05 13:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28971 @ 0.00048325 = 14.0002 BTC [-]
Nov 05 13:49:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19784 @ 0.00048323 = 9.5602 BTC [-]
Nov 05 14:01:09 <jurov>	;;rate patrickharnett -1 "Aug 10 08:10:17 <patrickharnett> in the event BS&T goes bust, I have more than enough assets to cover that"
Nov 05 14:01:10 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user patrickharnett has been recorded.
Nov 05 14:02:26 <jurov>	;;rate kakobrekla -1 "Bit4X: Fake trophies/FSA number on front page? Oh, that's normal business in Balkans, let's move on"
Nov 05 14:02:27 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user kakobrekla has been recorded.
Nov 05 14:02:56 <thestringpuller>	?
Nov 05 14:03:19 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Nov 05 14:03:20 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Nov 05 14:04:21 <kakobrekla>	there is no fsa number on bit4x
Nov 05 14:04:27 <kakobrekla>	and no thropies
Nov 05 14:04:32 <kakobrekla>	fyi
Nov 05 14:04:43 <kakobrekla>	i dont control venetfx
Nov 05 14:04:59 <jurov>	;;rate kakobrekla -1 "VenetFX: Fake trophies/FSA number on front page? Oh, that's normal business in Balkans, let's move on"
Nov 05 14:05:01 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from -1 to -1.
Nov 05 14:05:06 <jurov>	thx for correction
Nov 05 14:05:41 <kakobrekla>	and if you need corrections
Nov 05 14:05:45 <kakobrekla>	fsa is not fake or wrong
Nov 05 14:05:54 <kakobrekla>	logo might be inadequate, will be fixed prolly.
Nov 05 14:06:18 <kakobrekla>	but i guess at this point
Nov 05 14:06:25 <kakobrekla>	i have to rate you back to make that clear
Nov 05 14:09:06 <EskimoBob>	;;gpg eauth EskimoBob
Nov 05 14:09:07 <gribble>	Request successful for user EskimoBob, hostmask EskimoBob!~EskimoBob@unaffiliated/eskimobob. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/78D6A837B8489C58
Nov 05 14:09:08 <jurov>	yeah, don't forget to invent funny nick for me :D
Nov 05 14:09:15 <smickles>	mr thestringpuller
Nov 05 14:09:47 <EskimoBob>	you little shit gribble, why cant you answer me: wget -O - http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/78D6A837B8489C58 | gpg --decrypt ?
Nov 05 14:10:17 <smickles>	oh noes, i think the net chart is down again :(
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Nov 05 14:12:47 <EskimoBob>	what net chart?
Nov 05 14:15:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18071 @ 0.00048323 = 8.7324 BTC [-]
Nov 05 14:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	lmao some asshole just tried to hijack my cookies.
Nov 05 14:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	detailed stuff here : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-storm-that-was-fel/#comment-90298
Nov 05 14:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	be careful if you run wordpress and some bitcoin service.
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Nov 05 14:19:35 <thestringpuller>	wordpress is for hipsters
Nov 05 14:22:23 <mircea_popescu>	yawell
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Nov 05 14:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10245 @ 0.00048323 = 4.9507 BTC [-]
Nov 05 14:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29855 @ 0.00048306 = 14.4218 BTC [-]
Nov 05 14:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 140 @ 0.00180025 = 0.252 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 15:04:32 <smickles>	< EskimoBob> what net chart? << the one in the topic
Nov 05 15:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17933 @ 0.0004855 = 8.7065 BTC [+]
Nov 05 15:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @ 0.00048596 = 12.9994 BTC [+]
Nov 05 15:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4963 @ 0.00048689 = 2.4164 BTC [+]
Nov 05 15:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3554 @ 0.00048697 = 1.7307 BTC [+]
Nov 05 15:09:18 <smickles>	O_o
Nov 05 15:10:03 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 05 15:10:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.61501, Best ask: 10.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03499, Last trade: 10.61001, 24 hour volume: 27625.15673475, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 10.90000, 24 hour vwap: 10.73199
Nov 05 15:10:34 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 05 15:10:35 <gribble>	10.64
Nov 05 15:12:01 <smickles>	;;calc (10.64 - 6) / 10.64 - .5567063
Nov 05 15:12:02 <gribble>	-0.120616074436
Nov 05 15:14:20 <smickles>	;;6/(.5567063 -1)
Nov 05 15:14:20 <gribble>	Error: "6/(.5567063" is not a valid command.
Nov 05 15:14:28 <smickles>	;;calc 6 / (.5567063 - 1)
Nov 05 15:14:28 <gribble>	-13.5350445991
Nov 05 15:15:08 <smickles>	;;calc -7 / (.46504328 - 1)
Nov 05 15:15:09 <gribble>	13.0851707032
Nov 05 15:15:34 <smickles>	;;calc -8 / (.38338989 - 1)
Nov 05 15:15:35 <gribble>	12.974162879
Nov 05 15:15:58 <smickles>	;;calc -10 / (.25241535 - 1)
Nov 05 15:15:59 <gribble>	13.3764116211
Nov 05 15:16:16 <smickles>	;;calc -11 / (.20397018 - 1)
Nov 05 15:16:17 <gribble>	13.8185778015
Nov 05 15:16:27 <smickles>	well, someone is pretty bullish
Nov 05 15:18:52 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: that should've balanced out those short puts from the beginning of the month, right? (assuming the exchange rate doesn't go ove 13.2 or something)
Nov 05 15:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Nov 05 15:20:50 <smickles>	woah, that was ~42000 contracts
Nov 05 15:21:47 *	smickles considers buying some s.mpoe
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Nov 05 15:27:33 <Diablo-D3>	hey
Nov 05 15:27:41 <Diablo-D3>	what was the name of the bitcoinica guy
Nov 05 15:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	zhou tong ?
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Nov 05 15:30:50 <Diablo-D3>	yeah him
Nov 05 15:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00048697 = 11.1516 BTC [+]
Nov 05 15:36:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00048306 = 0.0483 BTC [-]
Nov 05 15:36:51 <SupaDupa>	Diablo-D3 is gay
Nov 05 15:36:59 <SupaDupa>	he likes the pee pee in his bum hole
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Nov 05 15:37:22 <Diablo-D3>	SupaDupa is gay
Nov 05 15:37:28 <Diablo-D3>	he is catholic and votes republican
Nov 05 15:37:43 <Diablo-D3>	(not that theres anything wrong with that)
Nov 05 15:38:23 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't vote republican cause they're too far on the left.
Nov 05 15:38:58 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: YES
Nov 05 15:39:02 <Diablo-D3>	LETS BEAT THE WOMEN!
Nov 05 15:39:17 <SupaDupa>	I don't vote for anyone
Nov 05 15:39:19 <SupaDupa>	cause I don't vote
Nov 05 15:39:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135153659710.jpg seems to be working for her.
Nov 05 15:39:22 <SupaDupa>	and am not american
Nov 05 15:39:49 <Diablo-D3>	SupaDupa: thats like saying "hi, bomb me"
Nov 05 15:39:59 <SupaDupa>	yep
Nov 05 15:40:01 <SupaDupa>	go for it
Nov 05 15:40:14 <Diablo-D3>	cant, waiting for UAV battery to charge
Nov 05 15:40:15 <SupaDupa>	bomb me after we cut off your electricity
Nov 05 15:40:25 <Diablo-D3>	SupaDupa: where are you?
Nov 05 15:40:35 <SupaDupa>	Vancouver Island
Nov 05 15:40:49 <SupaDupa>	bomb the whole thing man good luck to you
Nov 05 15:41:00 <Diablo-D3>	heh, dont have to worry about that then
Nov 05 15:41:04 <Diablo-D3>	mother nature is coming after you anyhow
Nov 05 15:43:13 <SupaDupa>	yep
Nov 05 15:43:18 <SupaDupa>	we'll be floating away soon
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Nov 05 16:02:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15636 @ 0.00048697 = 7.6143 BTC [+]
Nov 05 16:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11075 @ 0.00048785 = 5.4029 BTC [+]
Nov 05 16:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3289 @ 0.00048793 = 1.6048 BTC [+]
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Nov 05 16:27:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43761 @ 0.00048306 = 21.1392 BTC [-]
Nov 05 16:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1045 @ 0.00048306 = 0.5048 BTC [-]
Nov 05 16:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2194 @ 0.00048295 = 1.0596 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 16:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3156 @ 0.00048295 = 1.5242 BTC [-]
Nov 05 16:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24244 @ 0.00048286 = 11.7065 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 17:09:16 <thestringpuller>	smickles: lets monopoly it up tonight
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Nov 05 17:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4356 @ 0.00048286 = 2.1033 BTC [-]
Nov 05 17:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00048259 = 7.7938 BTC [-]
Nov 05 17:19:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25794 @ 0.00048223 = 12.4386 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 17:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11055 @ 0.00048223 = 5.3311 BTC [-]
Nov 05 17:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14895 @ 0.00048223 = 7.1828 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 20:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18575 @ 0.00048197 = 8.9526 BTC [-]
Nov 05 20:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2325 @ 0.00048197 = 1.1206 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 20:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44818 @ 0.00048197 = 21.6009 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 21:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9857 @ 0.00048197 = 4.7508 BTC [-]
Nov 05 21:09:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29743 @ 0.00048189 = 14.3329 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 21:35:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2757 @ 0.00048189 = 1.3286 BTC [-]
Nov 05 21:35:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00048188 = 13.6613 BTC [-]
Nov 05 21:35:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9493 @ 0.00048165 = 4.5723 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 21:50:56 <Chaang-Noi>	whats new?
Nov 05 21:52:59 <mod6>	not much, what up
Nov 05 21:54:23 <Chaang-Noi>	nada
Nov 05 21:55:18 <mod6>	werd
Nov 05 21:55:28 <mod6>	im debugging :]
Nov 05 21:55:44 <mod6>	this core2duo is a pile of shit
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Nov 05 21:57:40 <mod6>	the android emulator grinds it down slooooooow
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Nov 05 22:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00048165 = 7.6342 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 22:26:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26257 @ 0.00048165 = 12.6467 BTC [-]
Nov 05 22:26:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2843 @ 0.00048155 = 1.369 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 22:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/that-didnt-last-long/
Nov 05 22:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	i got banned on twittar.
Nov 05 22:34:33 <mircea_popescu>	i blame theymos.
Nov 05 22:36:08 <sgornick>	Twitter ban?
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Nov 05 22:45:47 <dub>	twitter? or reddot
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Nov 05 22:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29762 @ 0.00048155 = 14.3319 BTC [-]
Nov 05 22:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00048151 = 4.0447 BTC [-]
Nov 05 22:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7638 @ 0.00048142 = 3.6771 BTC [-]
Nov 05 22:54:24 <Chaang-Noi>	banned from what and why theymos?
Nov 05 22:54:32 <Chaang-Noi>	(ubnless the forum)
Nov 05 22:54:57 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: is that why i could never find your reddit user?
Nov 05 22:55:09 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i have no idea.
Nov 05 22:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think so tho, this prolly happened today.
Nov 05 22:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick dub reddit
Nov 05 22:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi well there's two mods, and i was chatting with the other one.
Nov 05 22:56:40 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos is a mod at reddi?
Nov 05 22:56:44 <Chaang-Noi>	reddit?
Nov 05 22:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Nov 05 22:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	him and hugosomething
Nov 05 22:57:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i had no idea
Nov 05 22:57:33 <Chaang-Noi>	thats too much power for one guy
Nov 05 22:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	heh power.
Nov 05 22:57:43 <Chaang-Noi>	censorship power
Nov 05 22:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	it's the loser strategy, get in early and entrench.
Nov 05 22:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's a really sad thing to try tho, because all it gets you is a painful defeat dragged out over time.
Nov 05 22:58:16 <mircea_popescu>	but hey, thinking is hard. overextending is easy.
Nov 05 22:58:17 <Chaang-Noi>	he must really do nothing other than mod then...
Nov 05 22:58:19 <Chaang-Noi>	does he even work?
Nov 05 22:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	i thought he was a student
Nov 05 22:58:33 <Chaang-Noi>	oh yeah
Nov 05 22:58:52 <copumpkin>	does he even lift?
Nov 05 22:59:21 *	smickles is no rockin' a rad 19' 1024x768 dell monitor
Nov 05 22:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	it would be funny if i got banned on twitter tho, seeing how i literally never post
Nov 05 22:59:28 <mircea_popescu>	just dump tons and tons of data
Nov 05 22:59:43 <smickles>	yeah, some random api violation
Nov 05 23:00:12 <smickles>	"you posted the letter x to often via this method"
Nov 05 23:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	whee
Nov 05 23:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	now im curious
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Nov 05 23:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	o btw, smickles didja see all about me getting hacked again ?
Nov 05 23:01:05 <smickles>	I saw something about a guy claiming you had 0days and wanted to jabber you
Nov 05 23:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	18,351 Tweets. that's not so bad really.
Nov 05 23:01:13 <mircea_popescu>	ya that.
Nov 05 23:01:34 <smickles>	raoul_duke, lurks in -otc iirc
Nov 05 23:01:44 <smickles>	(if they're using the same name)
Nov 05 23:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen raoul_duke
Nov 05 23:02:13 <gribble>	I have not seen raoul_duke.
Nov 05 23:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	o right.
Nov 05 23:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	raoul_duke :No such nick/channel
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Nov 05 23:03:52 <smickles>	maybe i have the spelling incorrect
Nov 05 23:04:28 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i'm for bed. take care all!
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Nov 05 23:17:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15962 @ 0.00048142 = 7.6844 BTC [-]
Nov 05 23:17:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20738 @ 0.00048129 = 9.981 BTC [-]
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Nov 05 23:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33462 @ 0.00048129 = 16.1049 BTC [-]
Nov 05 23:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12575 @ 0.00048113 = 6.0502 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 00:09:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3604 @ 0.00048196 = 1.737 BTC [+]
Nov 06 00:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9246 @ 0.00048212 = 4.4577 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 00:34:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21269 @ 0.00048113 = 10.2332 BTC [-]
Nov 06 00:34:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15031 @ 0.00048112 = 7.2317 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 01:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18180 @ 0.00048112 = 8.7468 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 01:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10649 @ 0.00048112 = 5.1234 BTC [-]
Nov 06 01:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00048106 = 2.2369 BTC [-]
Nov 06 01:25:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00048092 = 3.1741 BTC [-]
Nov 06 01:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3001 @ 0.00048086 = 1.4431 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 01:30:24 <SupaDupa>	It's not prejudice cause it's a decentralized p2p virtual currency
Nov 06 01:30:27 <SupaDupa>	so open up your wallet
Nov 06 01:30:30 <SupaDupa>	and show me your bitcoins
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Nov 06 01:50:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15444 @ 0.00048212 = 7.4459 BTC [+]
Nov 06 01:50:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8556 @ 0.00048386 = 4.1399 BTC [+]
Nov 06 02:16:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6754 @ 0.00048086 = 3.2477 BTC [-]
Nov 06 02:16:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46046 @ 0.00048086 = 22.1417 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 02:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7404 @ 0.00048086 = 3.5603 BTC [-]
Nov 06 02:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30296 @ 0.00048084 = 14.5675 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 03:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00048084 = 2.2599 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 03:32:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18044 @ 0.00048386 = 8.7308 BTC [+]
Nov 06 03:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14306 @ 0.00048406 = 6.925 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 03:58:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16254 @ 0.00048084 = 7.8156 BTC [-]
Nov 06 03:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8146 @ 0.00048061 = 3.915 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 04:23:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10802 @ 0.0004814 = 5.2001 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 04:49:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17988 @ 0.0004814 = 8.6594 BTC [+]
Nov 06 04:49:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21613 @ 0.00048061 = 10.3874 BTC [-]
Nov 06 04:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8049 @ 0.00048057 = 3.8681 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 05:14:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2551 @ 0.00048057 = 1.2259 BTC [-]
Nov 06 05:14:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00048052 = 7.9046 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 05:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22865 @ 0.00048037 = 10.9837 BTC [-]
Nov 06 05:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10370 @ 0.00048031 = 4.9808 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 06:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00048031 = 9.222 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 06:30:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16480 @ 0.00048031 = 7.9155 BTC [-]
Nov 06 06:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120 @ 0.00048026 = 0.0576 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 06:56:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14380 @ 0.00048026 = 6.9061 BTC [-]
Nov 06 06:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00048016 = 7.4185 BTC [-]
Nov 06 06:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7477 @ 0.0004801 = 3.5897 BTC [-]
Nov 06 07:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.0004801 = 10.7062 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 07:37:29 <rg>	jeeezus christ
Nov 06 07:37:32 <rg>	i forgot to pay divs
Nov 06 07:37:42 <kakobreklaaa>	scammer.
Nov 06 07:37:47 <rg>	all bitvps share holders: funds being deposited to MPEX right now!
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Nov 06 07:41:33 *	mircea_popescu goes on vacation, processes deposit friday
Nov 06 07:44:32 <rg>	mircea_popescu: lol
Nov 06 07:44:36 <rg>	im an idiot
Nov 06 07:44:39 <rg>	i did a withdraw
Nov 06 07:44:42 <rg>	to my bitcoin wallet
Nov 06 07:44:49 <rg>	i shouldve just done i tdirectly tom pex
Nov 06 07:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	that's ok, im not processing that either :D
Nov 06 07:45:01 <rg>	fine with me
Nov 06 07:45:03 <rg>	:>
Nov 06 07:45:13 <kakobreklaaa>	Tom Pex, cool guy.
Nov 06 07:45:31 <rg>	runnin down a dream
Nov 06 07:45:44 *	kakobreklaaa is now known as kakobrekla
Nov 06 07:45:46 <rg>	mircea; i viewed your hacker chronicles lastn ight
Nov 06 07:45:54 <rg>	loltastic
Nov 06 07:47:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.0004801 = 7.1775 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 07:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	tom pex lol
Nov 06 07:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	rg innit
Nov 06 07:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i think tom pex is milk.
Nov 06 07:54:13 <rg>	im so sick of scammers in -otc
Nov 06 07:54:18 <rg>	i wanted to be opped for so long
Nov 06 07:54:18 <EskimoBob>	what about those, who still hold that shit via GLBSE?
Nov 06 07:54:19 <rg>	now im opped
Nov 06 07:54:20 <rg>	and
Nov 06 07:54:24 <rg>	its a lot of work
Nov 06 07:54:27 <mircea_popescu>	d;uh.
Nov 06 07:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	why do you think mods suck ?
Nov 06 07:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	they're the people who couldn't find anything better to do.
Nov 06 07:54:42 <rg>	theres like 20 ops on the access list
Nov 06 07:54:44 <MrTiggr>	rg - ur not alone bro and you are doing a bang-up job
Nov 06 07:54:47 <MrTiggr>	o/\.o
Nov 06 07:54:48 <rg>	and maybe 3 do work
Nov 06 07:54:57 <rg>	wizkid, coin, me
Nov 06 07:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	wizkid is a mod ?!
Nov 06 07:55:05 <MrTiggr>	and SomeoneWeird now too
Nov 06 07:55:14 <MrTiggr>	also we have some power-bots on the way
Nov 06 07:55:19 <MrTiggr>	been testing em tonite
Nov 06 07:55:28 <rg>	i dont think the solution is bots
Nov 06 07:55:36 <MrTiggr>	i know its no tthe solution
Nov 06 07:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	MrTiggr BAN EVERYONE!
Nov 06 07:55:42 <MrTiggr>	dont crank up at me
Nov 06 07:55:49 <rg>	mircea_popescu: i ban people who get scammed
Nov 06 07:55:51 <MrTiggr>	im just doing the best i can like rg^^
Nov 06 07:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	aghaha
Nov 06 07:55:59 <MrTiggr>	and you know what,rg
Nov 06 07:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	also mailbomb them
Nov 06 07:56:05 <MrTiggr>	i dont actually mind that mentality
Nov 06 07:56:09 <rg>	i dont
Nov 06 07:56:11 <rg>	but it cant continue
Nov 06 07:56:16 <MrTiggr>	i know
Nov 06 07:56:17 <rg>	its unsustainable
Nov 06 07:56:25 <MrTiggr>	im also working on a secure IRC server of our own
Nov 06 07:56:27 <rg>	i think we're going +i again
Nov 06 07:56:28 <rg>	shortly
Nov 06 07:56:28 <MrTiggr>	but thats hard
Nov 06 07:56:38 <MrTiggr>	rg: i've asked nano
Nov 06 07:56:43 <MrTiggr>	and he will do it
Nov 06 07:56:45 <MrTiggr>	BUT
Nov 06 07:56:45 <rg>	last night i told nano
Nov 06 07:56:48 <rg>	not asked
Nov 06 07:56:52 <MrTiggr>	me too
Nov 06 07:56:57 <MrTiggr>	in the pvt ops chan
Nov 06 07:56:57 <rg>	he put me in charge
Nov 06 07:56:59 <rg>	;P
Nov 06 07:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	rg : last night +i told nano << FIFY
Nov 06 07:57:04 <MrTiggr>	and his basic stance is
Nov 06 07:57:05 <rg>	oh i dont deal with politics like that
Nov 06 07:57:16 <MrTiggr>	that  it will only push nicksquatch into PM mode
Nov 06 07:57:18 <rg>	im like the black ops op
Nov 06 07:57:23 <rg>	they already are
Nov 06 07:57:35 <rg>	at least with the auth list we will make the pool of possible scammers more shallow
Nov 06 07:57:45 <rg>	instead of 500 people not logged in
Nov 06 07:57:47 <rg>	there will be 100-200
Nov 06 07:57:50 <rg>	all logged into gribble
Nov 06 07:57:59 <rg>	100-200 is easier to sort through than 500
Nov 06 07:57:59 <MrTiggr>	bro, you realise if you make the channel +m (shich you can) then gribble will enforce !voiceme
Nov 06 07:58:09 <MrTiggr>	just nike it bro
Nov 06 07:58:11 <rg>	and its also easier to see peoples patterns
Nov 06 07:58:13 <MrTiggr>	JUST DOOO EEHT
Nov 06 07:58:23 <rg>	i dont do anything without authorization
Nov 06 07:58:31 <rg>	or at least a majortiy vote
Nov 06 07:58:31 <MrTiggr>	i will back you on it
Nov 06 07:58:34 <rg>	between people i deemed important
Nov 06 07:58:35 <MrTiggr>	so will coin and Jr
Nov 06 07:58:44 <rg>	haha
Nov 06 07:58:48 <rg>	i dont care what puke-jr thinks
Nov 06 07:58:54 <MrTiggr>	not HIM
Nov 06 07:58:56 <MrTiggr>	sry
Nov 06 07:59:01 <MrTiggr>	jr is my pet name for SomeoneWeird
Nov 06 07:59:02 <rg>	just kidding luke
Nov 06 07:59:03 <rg>	i love you
Nov 06 07:59:21 *	rg gets gay with luke
Nov 06 07:59:27 <MrTiggr>	lol
Nov 06 07:59:46 <MrTiggr>	rg gets a crucifix burn on his back
Nov 06 08:00:30 <rg>	it was worth it
Nov 06 08:00:35 <MrTiggr>	lol
Nov 06 08:00:44 <MrTiggr>	go and shower now :P
Nov 06 08:01:01 <MrTiggr>	NO spooning
Nov 06 08:01:15 <MrTiggr>	aaanyway
Nov 06 08:01:16 <MrTiggr>	srs
Nov 06 08:01:31 <MrTiggr>	go the +m option i say
Nov 06 08:01:39 <MrTiggr>	i'll back you 100%
Nov 06 08:01:44 <MrTiggr>	do a vote in channel if you like
Nov 06 08:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	#trilema is +m
Nov 06 08:02:09 <MrTiggr>	i can even enable the !Poll module in one of my bots for you
Nov 06 08:02:25 <MrTiggr>	^^ all @ rg
Nov 06 08:12:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13073 @ 0.0004801 = 6.2763 BTC [-]
Nov 06 08:12:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12027 @ 0.00048008 = 5.7739 BTC [-]
Nov 06 08:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41793.220
Nov 06 08:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't maria banned 5x ?
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Nov 06 08:37:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00048008 = 11.954 BTC [-]
Nov 06 09:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10099 @ 0.00048045 = 4.8521 BTC [+]
Nov 06 09:02:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21201 @ 0.00048095 = 10.1966 BTC [+]
Nov 06 09:08:21 <rg>	i thought of some good ideas for pympex
Nov 06 09:08:23 <rg>	who wrote it again?
Nov 06 09:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	azelphur
Nov 06 09:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	but you can fork
Nov 06 09:12:18 <kakobrekla>	>This is nothing other than natural morals, you don't see a wolf trying to swallow a whale. You don't see a hawk trying to carry away a moose. You sometimes see snakes trying to swallow things they can't, but that's rare and it works as proof that snakes aren't really all that smart.
Nov 06 09:12:26 <kakobrekla>	lol, love all the buffer.
Nov 06 09:13:38 <mircea_popescu>	buffer ?
Nov 06 09:14:22 <kakobrekla>	well it could be consensed to 'you are stupid'
Nov 06 09:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 06 09:22:10 <kakobrekla>	http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5767326_700b.jpg
Nov 06 09:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol. please don't buffer the dog.
Nov 06 09:23:43 <mircea_popescu>	s/f/g/
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Nov 06 09:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3773 @ 0.00048008 = 1.8113 BTC [-]
Nov 06 09:29:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00048004 = 3.1203 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 09:45:52 <rg>	mircea_popescu: mpex is 6 confirms right
Nov 06 09:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	not rly. depends when i look
Nov 06 09:48:49 <rg>	is there really an advantage to using more than 2 confirms
Nov 06 09:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	sdice uses 0 for instance
Nov 06 09:51:26 <rg>	i doubt sdice would be as popular if it waited for confirms
Nov 06 09:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	prolly not.
Nov 06 09:52:05 <rg>	when do we get interest back on mpex deposits
Nov 06 09:52:51 <rg>	mac and cheese for breakfast
Nov 06 09:52:51 <rg>	mm
Nov 06 09:55:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.0004798 = 5.9495 BTC [-]
Nov 06 09:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00047953 = 2.8772 BTC [-]
Nov 06 09:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00047949 = 7.0485 BTC [-]
Nov 06 09:57:49 <kakobrekla>	any double spend attacks on sdice yet?
Nov 06 09:58:33 <mircea_popescu>	not as far as i know
Nov 06 09:58:52 <rg>	arent double spends hard to do
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Nov 06 10:07:42 <mircea_popescu>	kinda.
Nov 06 10:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, the people with the tech and mining power that'd allow it are not the sort do try such thngs
Nov 06 10:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	yet.
Nov 06 10:09:02 <kakobrekla>	maybe i should allow 0 conf as well for limited amounts
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Nov 06 10:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] [PAID] 500000 @ 0.000116 = 58 BTC
Nov 06 10:13:53 <rg>	mircea why are the mpex options in different measurements
Nov 06 10:13:59 <rg>	like withdraw is satoshi
Nov 06 10:14:01 <rg>	deposit is btc
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Nov 06 10:18:08 <rg>	ok mircea i ordered a withdrawl
Nov 06 10:18:11 <rg>	it SHOULD be for 30 btc
Nov 06 10:18:14 <rg>	but if its for 300 btc
Nov 06 10:18:15 <rg>	let me know
Nov 06 10:18:18 <rg>	i gotta shower real quick
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Nov 06 10:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28867 @ 0.00047949 = 13.8414 BTC [-]
Nov 06 10:20:38 <mircea_popescu>	just trying to make it difficult for the working man
Nov 06 10:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	omfg i can't believe what a troll that joelkatz dood is.
Nov 06 10:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4583 @ 0.00047949 = 2.1975 BTC [-]
Nov 06 10:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22802 @ 0.00047948 = 10.9331 BTC [-]
Nov 06 10:45:45 <rg>	what's he saying
Nov 06 10:45:49 <rg>	and to who
Nov 06 10:45:52 <rg>	about whsat
Nov 06 10:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.40
Nov 06 10:49:16 <mircea_popescu>	basically he's arguing that patrickharnett shouldn't get a scammer tag in spite of stealing 5-600 btc from me
Nov 06 10:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	because welll... ghe made a mistake.
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Nov 06 10:51:17 <kakobrekla>	i shall borrow 1k btc from katz instead of 100 by mistake
Nov 06 10:52:40 <mircea_popescu>	that forum you know ? it's incredible.
Nov 06 10:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	people fuck them in the ass, they're all "o let's give them al ittle time"
Nov 06 10:53:13 <mircea_popescu>	god forbid someone makes something actually useful : they won't comprehend it and then it's all OMG CP!!!1
Nov 06 10:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	btctalk was created by a government conspiracy to save on public spending. the idiots go there and post thus not being in the street causing damage.
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Nov 06 11:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12148 @ 0.00047948 = 5.8247 BTC [-]
Nov 06 11:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9252 @ 0.00047941 = 4.4355 BTC [-]
Nov 06 11:21:42 <pigeons>	;)  https://cryptostocks.com/securities/25#info
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Nov 06 11:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	seems legit
Nov 06 11:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	10k, is that the minimum to open an online brokerage acct ?
Nov 06 11:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how many people try to use bitcoin to get around those rules put there exactly so as to protect them from themselves.
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Nov 06 11:38:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26239 @ 0.00047941 = 12.5792 BTC [-]
Nov 06 11:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 326 @ 0.0004792 = 0.1562 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 12:03:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00047988 = 10.3654 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 12:14:39 <Azelphur>	rg: if you have good ideas, commits welcome it's up on github
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Nov 06 12:18:34 <rg>	tell you what
Nov 06 12:18:37 <rg>	ill tell you the ideas
Nov 06 12:18:38 <rg>	you do them
Nov 06 12:18:40 <rg>	and take credit for it
Nov 06 12:19:12 <Azelphur>	rg: but that involves me doing things
Nov 06 12:19:31 <Azelphur>	and my doing things queue is long, and on hold until I get moved out
Nov 06 12:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	you moving again ?
Nov 06 12:22:32 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: havn't got my current one sorted yet, it's only been a few weeks
Nov 06 12:22:38 <Azelphur>	havn't moved once yet ;)
Nov 06 12:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	a pl
Nov 06 12:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	a ok&
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Nov 06 12:29:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12627 @ 0.00047988 = 6.0594 BTC [+]
Nov 06 12:29:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16749 @ 0.00048095 = 8.0554 BTC [+]
Nov 06 12:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8824 @ 0.00048127 = 4.2467 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 12:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 31933 @ 0.00003301 = 1.0541 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 12:42:20 <Chaang-Noi>	JoalKatz can be all over the place
Nov 06 12:42:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder if he is trolling at times
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Nov 06 12:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	it is the worst case of special pleading i ever saw
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Nov 06 12:47:23 <Chaang-Noi>	he is off the wall on all sorts of things
Nov 06 12:47:51 <Chaang-Noi>	sometimes he makes rally good points, your case with patrick however makes him look like he is trolling
Nov 06 12:48:16 <pigeons>	he said i can cover, i can pay, then he didn't
Nov 06 12:48:43 <pigeons>	pirate isn't a scammer cause he thought zeek would pay
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Nov 06 12:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-vault-story/
Nov 06 12:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons right.
Nov 06 12:52:20 <pigeons>	don't post more than 5 of those a week
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Nov 06 12:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 06 12:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's like 0.1 cents per omg
Nov 06 12:53:23 <mod6>	DTCC had a vault aptly located on Water Street, in Manhattan.
Nov 06 12:53:24 <mod6>	haha
Nov 06 12:54:27 <pigeons>	let me pay with bitcoins instead of this email thing
Nov 06 12:54:38 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1320177#msg1320177 i do think this pretty much sums it up
Nov 06 12:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you only email to get a btc addy anyway! pm me, i'll sort it out privately
Nov 06 13:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00048127 = 5.5827 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 13:10:10 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: I swear I don't have your cherries
Nov 06 13:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol alikely story
Nov 06 13:10:23 <mircea_popescu>	mr ponticherry
Nov 06 13:10:39 <rdponticelli>	But for a nice fee, I can found that god damn truck here in Argentina
Nov 06 13:11:03 <rdponticelli>	xD
Nov 06 13:12:28 *	smickles fathoms a 9kton nutella jar
Nov 06 13:14:50 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you think _anything_ (of value) will actually be lost if there is damage in that vault?
Nov 06 13:15:07 <smickles>	wouldn't they have records of their inventory
Nov 06 13:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	not really so much the point tho, is it ?
Nov 06 13:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	haha rdponticelli can i pay in peaches ?
Nov 06 13:15:42 <smickles>	and contracts which would require the physical thing to be remade in the event of damage
Nov 06 13:15:57 <smickles>	(i mean, we're talking about paper, right?)
Nov 06 13:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	there exist bearer instruments which are irreplaceable.
Nov 06 13:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	so, depending on how many of those are reissuable or not, it will be a huge litigation mess to sort out.
Nov 06 13:16:55 <smickles>	well, if things are really irreplaceable, i understand.
Nov 06 13:17:01 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, we should all go back to bartering things
Nov 06 13:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	but here's the thing : this is really somewhat like glbse implosion
Nov 06 13:17:16 <smickles>	lol, sotrue
Nov 06 13:17:21 <mircea_popescu>	ppl will be tempted to just go... fuck yeah, im done.
Nov 06 13:17:30 <mircea_popescu>	except, not for 1k btc. for 1trn usd
Nov 06 13:18:26 <smickles>	damn, it's so tempting to just go fuckit, you can have your [insert asset here] when you have proof its yours
Nov 06 13:18:36 <smickles>	... until then, it's mine
Nov 06 13:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	right.
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Nov 06 13:21:32 <rdponticelli>	Maybe the whole Hurricane thing was crowdfunded by some evil issuers...
Nov 06 13:22:23 <rdponticelli>	Let's destroy the proof of our debt!
Nov 06 13:23:07 <rdponticelli>	Just like the towers
Nov 06 13:23:46 *	smickles registeres HAARPforHire.com
Nov 06 13:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Nov 06 13:24:46 <jurov>	u have it all wrong. it was caused by gay marriages
Nov 06 13:25:05 <smickles>	jurov is luke-jr?
Nov 06 13:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00047921 = 0.9584 BTC [-]
Nov 06 13:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.0004792 = 7.1401 BTC [-]
Nov 06 13:26:08 <mircea_popescu>	no ?!
Nov 06 13:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	Juraj Variny = jurov. luke's from the us iirc.
Nov 06 13:26:57 <jurov>	why do you think so?
Nov 06 13:28:44 <jurov>	simckles?
Nov 06 13:28:52 <jurov>	smicklez?
Nov 06 13:29:01 <smickles>	heh, joking based off of your gay comment
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Nov 06 13:31:59 <jurov>	okay. i'm interested now whether more people believe sandy was caused by haarp or so, or that it was caused by moral depravity
Nov 06 13:32:14 <jurov>	i'm inclined to the latter
Nov 06 13:32:50 <jurov>	it was caused by mircea's porn
Nov 06 13:33:12 <Diablo-D3>	what, his fapping heated the upper atmosphere?
Nov 06 13:34:06 <jurov>	more like the screams of those haunted girls reached the ear of Almighty
Nov 06 13:34:40 <dub>	sandy was caused by al gore
Nov 06 13:34:58 <Diablo-D3>	so, anyone have any indication on how florida and new hampshire is going?
Nov 06 13:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	my moral depornity.
Nov 06 13:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	herpderp
Nov 06 13:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov jus' for you http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135222570731.jpg
Nov 06 13:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	that's some expert caning.
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Nov 06 13:38:03 <jurov>	hm, nice
Nov 06 13:39:13 <jurov>	although, there's strong gender bias... no /y/ there?
Nov 06 13:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	 /y/ ?
Nov 06 13:40:00 <jurov>	http://boards.4chan.org/y/
Nov 06 13:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	faggotry is evil.
Nov 06 13:40:56 <jurov>	or, even better, bara. but that got kicked out even from 4chan :P
Nov 06 13:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	whats that ?
Nov 06 13:42:39 <jurov>	google "bara anime"
Nov 06 13:43:08 <Diablo-D3>	wait, did mircea_popescu just call lesbians bad?
Nov 06 13:43:24 <abracadabra>	faggots != lesbians
Nov 06 13:43:25 <abracadabra>	:)
Nov 06 13:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 faggotry is the unholy act of butthole buggery
Nov 06 13:43:43 <mircea_popescu>	provided that butthole has a cock dongle
Nov 06 13:43:57 <Diablo-D3>	...
Nov 06 13:44:05 <jurov>	ftfy: holiest act of butthole buggery
Nov 06 13:44:20 *	Diablo-D3 has mircea_popescu banned for being religious
Nov 06 13:44:23 <mircea_popescu>	lesbians jus wanna lick a little
Nov 06 13:44:57 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 don't be calling me religious just cause you can't stand the shining light of truth
Nov 06 13:45:24 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I can call you religious for claiming what other people do is unholy
Nov 06 13:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	it was a PUN
Nov 06 13:45:55 <jurov>	lmao
Nov 06 13:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	duh
Nov 06 13:46:11 <Diablo-D3>	not a very good one.
Nov 06 13:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 should be punished nao
Nov 06 13:46:34 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, all I want is a woman who can cook and clean
Nov 06 13:46:42 <abracadabra>	sadnwiches?
Nov 06 13:46:52 <Diablo-D3>	SANVITCHES! OM NOM NOM NOM!
Nov 06 13:47:04 <mircea_popescu>	sad nitches
Nov 06 13:47:08 <jurov>	Diablo-D3, then it needs not to be a woman necessarily
Nov 06 13:47:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea is a spy!
Nov 06 13:47:24 *	Diablo-D3 changes classes and spy checks mircea
Nov 06 13:47:33 <mircea_popescu>	jurov women look better naked.
Nov 06 13:47:41 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, lets face it, guys are ugly
Nov 06 13:47:50 <jurov>	it depends
Nov 06 13:48:03 <Diablo-D3>	Ive seen what are claimed "good looking guys"
Nov 06 13:48:09 <Diablo-D3>	still ugly
Nov 06 13:48:13 <mircea_popescu>	it's usually pictures of me.
Nov 06 13:48:41 <Diablo-D3>	and japan tried solving it with bishounen guys
Nov 06 13:48:44 *	jurov drools every time he opens trilema
Nov 06 13:48:54 <Diablo-D3>	and all they're doing is producing women with dicks and no tits
Nov 06 13:49:16 <jurov>	you're hetero, so you're biased
Nov 06 13:49:27 <Diablo-D3>	even if I was gay, I'd still like tits
Nov 06 13:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/750.html
Nov 06 13:49:44 <Diablo-D3>	they're just so wonderful
Nov 06 13:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	you're just fixated.
Nov 06 13:50:19 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: bwhahahah
Nov 06 13:50:23 <Diablo-D3>	op picture is lol
Nov 06 13:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	>D
Nov 06 13:51:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24013 @ 0.00048127 = 11.5567 BTC [+]
Nov 06 13:51:07 <Diablo-D3>	Im going to have to say neither here, I think the tits are implants
Nov 06 13:51:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17587 @ 0.00048224 = 8.4812 BTC [+]
Nov 06 13:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	pfff. it says you can't say neither.
Nov 06 13:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	and what's the problem with implants ? well done they're better than the real thing.
Nov 06 13:52:17 <Diablo-D3>	meh, they never feel real =/
Nov 06 13:52:28 <jurov>	C) You become a Goat and you can Live for the next 10 years in the Goat tower HAHAHAHA
Nov 06 13:52:46 <jurov>	Chaang-noi, you around?
Nov 06 13:52:57 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Nov 06 13:53:15 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Nov 06 13:53:27 <Diablo-D3>	also, the mermaid one
Nov 06 13:53:32 <Diablo-D3>	older than the intertubes
Nov 06 13:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	mhm
Nov 06 13:54:09 <Diablo-D3>	OOH
Nov 06 13:54:11 <Diablo-D3>	WHO SHOULD YOU DATE
Nov 06 13:54:14 <Diablo-D3>	older women damnit
Nov 06 13:54:29 <Diablo-D3>	they've been around long enough to figure out exactly what they want and know how to get it out of you
Nov 06 13:54:44 <mircea_popescu>	i tend to date a mix.
Nov 06 13:54:53 <kakobrekla>	shemales?
Nov 06 13:55:01 <pigeons>	mutts?
Nov 06 13:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	haha no, cereal
Nov 06 13:55:11 <kuzetsa>	Diablo-D3: why would you think the trans woman's breasts are implants?
Nov 06 13:55:30 <Diablo-D3>	kuzetsa: protip: its a photoshop
Nov 06 13:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	kuzetsa cause they look good which makes him insecure
Nov 06 13:55:43 <mircea_popescu>	so he feels the urge to lash out and diminish the woman
Nov 06 13:55:45 *	kuzetsa shrugs
Nov 06 13:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	typical rapist.
Nov 06 13:55:55 <kuzetsa>	lol
Nov 06 13:56:00 <Diablo-D3>	says the king of rapists
Nov 06 13:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	im not a rapist, i just beat 'em.
Nov 06 13:56:08 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: and no, it doesnt make me insecure
Nov 06 13:56:54 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, I dont get why the fuck _an image on the internet_ would make anyone insecure
Nov 06 13:57:20 <mircea_popescu>	reptile brain
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Nov 06 13:58:21 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, so? if it turns you on, save it to your porn dir
Nov 06 13:58:30 <kuzetsa>	even though I'm not "a straight male", and my boyfriend is a trans guy, I'd almost certainly prefer "B" -- she's pretty hot as far as trans women go.
Nov 06 13:59:03 <kuzetsa>	<3
Nov 06 14:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	kuzetsa i agree. even her cock looks delicious
Nov 06 14:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	and i'm about as straight as a coffin nail.
Nov 06 14:00:17 <kuzetsa>	om nom
Nov 06 14:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	it seems joel is learning the perils of trying  to outargue mpoe-pr
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Nov 06 14:05:47 <kuzetsa>	mircea_popescu: for a sec I though that was buck angel. had to check the tattoos for comparison.
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Nov 06 14:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol useful tatoos
Nov 06 14:06:56 <kuzetsa>	:)
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Nov 06 14:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	"No you probably won't ever see any asset information. In fact the whole thing was probably a setup with one of the major asset holders on glbse so they would never have to pay back their investors"
Nov 06 14:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9674 @ 0.0004792 = 4.6358 BTC [-]
Nov 06 14:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37687 @ 0.00047918 = 18.0589 BTC [-]
Nov 06 14:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21189 @ 0.00047874 = 10.144 BTC [-]
Nov 06 14:17:27 <pigeons>	yes i was going to slightly modify and spread that rumor, its a good one
Nov 06 14:18:02 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if it's the highest one could pile shit
Nov 06 14:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	or it could be done higher.
Nov 06 14:19:11 <jurov>	omg kuzetsa, BUTCH angel
Nov 06 14:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7913 @ 0.00048224 = 3.816 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29450 @ 0.00048277 = 14.2176 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00048282 = 4.2971 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15141 @ 0.00048406 = 7.3292 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00048425 = 9.7576 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00048436 = 19.9556 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00048466 = 7.9 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27963 @ 0.00048547 = 13.5752 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56400 @ 0.00048556 = 27.3856 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00048625 = 10.6003 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49261 @ 0.00048793 = 24.0359 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38150 @ 0.00048817 = 18.6237 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30650 @ 0.00048878 = 14.9811 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00048994 = 18.6667 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28971 @ 0.00049012 = 14.1993 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00049015 = 22.0568 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00049024 = 14.315 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	and the moment we've all been waiting for..
Nov 06 14:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00049048 = 15.4011 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27438 @ 0.00049077 = 13.4657 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36300 @ 0.00049156 = 17.8436 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00049203 = 21.0097 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00049211 = 11.4662 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51558 @ 0.0004922 = 25.3768 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44191 @ 0.00049337 = 21.8025 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00049406 = 11.6598 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00049418 = 16.3079 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 14:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32150 @ 0.00049553 = 15.9313 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41354 @ 0.00049557 = 20.4938 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8678 @ 0.00049557 = 4.3006 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36807 @ 0.00049558 = 18.2408 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00049615 = 10.1215 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 14:21:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2804 @ 0.00049662 = 1.3925 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34366 @ 0.00049677 = 17.072 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00049685 = 9.3408 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55000 @ 0.0004971 = 27.3405 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00049715 = 10.4402 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00049719 = 14.5677 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45300 @ 0.00049727 = 22.5263 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42100 @ 0.00049745 = 20.9426 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47464 @ 0.00049794 = 23.6342 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00049796 = 16.1339 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00049813 = 4.3337 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00049816 = 3.8856 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17661 @ 0.00049876 = 8.8086 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21671 @ 0.00049891 = 10.8119 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43977 @ 0.00049975 = 21.9775 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73313 @ 0.0005 = 36.6565 BTC [+]
Nov 06 14:21:57 <pigeons>	yeah don't dare go past 0005
Nov 06 14:22:07 <pigeons>	that's the magic barrier
Nov 06 14:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Nov 06 14:22:23 <mircea_popescu>	isn't that the min fee ?
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Nov 06 14:24:13 <mod6>	haha yeah
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Nov 06 15:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 280 @ 0.0032 = 0.896 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 16:05:47 <jurov>	zhoutong resurfaced: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4743455
Nov 06 16:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	old project tho neh ?
Nov 06 16:08:54 <mircea_popescu>	This looks very cool Ryan - congrats on the launch! It's instantly appealing to me, and I fully understand the motivation. NameCheap, while an awesome domain name provider, still feels a bit "hackey" in their UI. It works, but it feels odd. This appeals to me more -- like Stripe for domain names.
Nov 06 16:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	you have to be retarded to start competition for namecheap. srsly now.
Nov 06 16:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	I'm going to be perfectly honest with you: The fact that you list that you're a one-man operation, that you're 18 years old, and that you say you "achieved financial independence at the age of 16" is a big turn-off to me.
Nov 06 16:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaa
Nov 06 16:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	o god
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Nov 06 16:29:44 <smickles>	bah
Nov 06 16:29:49 <copumpkin>	hab
Nov 06 16:29:54 <smickles>	my papers got misplaced somehow
Nov 06 16:30:00 <smickles>	I have to refile for my llc
Nov 06 16:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	eh ?!
Nov 06 16:30:18 <smickles>	yup
Nov 06 16:30:29 <smickles>	I was wondering why it was taking so long
Nov 06 16:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	can they even do that ?!
Nov 06 16:31:06 <smickles>	lol, you mean you don't expect incompetence in the gov't?
Nov 06 16:31:23 <smickles>	or you suspect they have it out for me
Nov 06 16:33:05 <mircea_popescu>	romanian ppls wouldn't dare lol.
Nov 06 16:33:39 <smickles>	well, i'll be successful and then move to romania then, since it's so much better
Nov 06 16:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Nov 06 16:33:56 <smickles>	civil law system alone sounds better than common law anyway
Nov 06 16:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Nov 06 16:34:45 <thestringpuller>	mr. smickles
Nov 06 16:34:51 <thestringpuller>	did you vote yet?
Nov 06 16:34:55 <smickles>	weeks ago
Nov 06 16:35:01 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 06 16:36:34 <smickles>	did you vote? (assuming I correctly recall you saying you were 'merican)
Nov 06 16:36:45 <thestringpuller>	muriiica
Nov 06 16:36:46 <thestringpuller>	yea
Nov 06 16:37:02 <thestringpuller>	we had a amendement to allow charter schools
Nov 06 16:37:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28004 @ 0.0005 = 14.002 BTC [+]
Nov 06 16:37:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2396 @ 0.00050032 = 1.1988 BTC [+]
Nov 06 16:37:11 <smickles>	Will you say which presidential candidate you voted for?
Nov 06 16:37:32 <smickles>	really? charter schools were illegal where you are?
Nov 06 16:38:24 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: is mail delivery done by the gov't in romainia?
Nov 06 16:38:42 <smickles>	(aside from courier services)
Nov 06 16:38:55 <mircea_popescu>	smickles well depends for what ? or what you mean ?
Nov 06 16:39:01 <smickles>	basic letters
Nov 06 16:39:09 <mircea_popescu>	i get monthly thanik you notes in the mail from the tax authority
Nov 06 16:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	(my corp pays monthly payroll)
Nov 06 16:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	o, you mean the post ? it's an autonomous thingee. like the uk mail or w/e
Nov 06 16:40:09 <smickles>	i don't know how that is, I guess i'll research UK mail
Nov 06 16:41:25 <smickles>	ah uk has gov't owned mail services too
Nov 06 16:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.posta-romana.ro/posta-romana.html
Nov 06 16:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	this is them
Nov 06 16:42:53 <smickles>	ah, state owned as well
Nov 06 16:43:07 <mircea_popescu>	sorta. it's a halfassed system
Nov 06 16:43:19 <thestringpuller>	i voted for obama. romney is a robot, or an android. he wants to cut science which is my swing issue.
Nov 06 16:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	basically, much like a spunoff vehicle, govt doesn't want their debts on its books
Nov 06 16:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	but wants to be able to say what's what.
Nov 06 16:44:01 <smickles>	"Sovereign Mircea the Elder"
Nov 06 16:44:28 <thestringpuller>	also we have to charter for schools from within the board of education. a board member must raise it for voting. this amendment lets the local community raise it.
Nov 06 16:44:29 <smickles>	lolwut thestringpuller you voted for obama?
Nov 06 16:44:55 <dub>	like any sane person
Nov 06 16:44:58 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 06 16:45:05 <thestringpuller>	who is romney?
Nov 06 16:45:09 <dub>	its either vote obama or vote jesus freak
Nov 06 16:45:15 <smickles>	not at all
Nov 06 16:45:15 <thestringpuller>	LOl
Nov 06 16:45:21 <dub>	smickles voted for jesus?
Nov 06 16:45:24 <smickles>	nope
Nov 06 16:45:30 *	dub dissapoint
Nov 06 16:45:37 <thestringpuller>	i would have voted 3rd party
Nov 06 16:45:45 <thestringpuller>	but oh well
Nov 06 16:45:46 <smickles>	there are more than 3 choices you know
Nov 06 16:45:58 <thestringpuller>	not on our ballot
Nov 06 16:46:03 <thestringpuller>	unfortunately
Nov 06 16:46:04 <pigeons>	then dont vote
Nov 06 16:46:04 <smickles>	really, that sucks
Nov 06 16:46:10 <thestringpuller>	ya
Nov 06 16:46:21 <thestringpuller>	the system is rigged anyways
Nov 06 16:46:29 <smickles>	they don't actually count write-ins
Nov 06 16:46:34 <thestringpuller>	i voted.for the charter amendment
Nov 06 16:46:51 <thestringpuller>	i voted mainly to vote for the charter amendment
Nov 06 16:46:51 <smickles>	I doubt the system is rigged, they don't need to
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Nov 06 16:47:01 <smickles>	too many people think is a 2 person choice
Nov 06 16:47:06 <dub>	thestringpuller: you like charter schools?
Nov 06 16:47:11 <pigeons>	well it's rigged because someone will win even though more of us didnt vote
Nov 06 16:47:47 <thestringpuller>	they allow kids in impoverished households to get a better education if their school is failing
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Nov 06 16:48:49 <smickles>	pigeons: you think not voting should carry weight somehow?
Nov 06 16:48:53 <dub>	conversely allowing schools to deny kids though right?
Nov 06 16:49:07 <dub>	its like free market for education
Nov 06 16:49:13 <pigeons>	yes. i think that they should all go home if enough people dont vote
Nov 06 16:49:30 <smickles>	pigeons: does belgium have a notional gov't yet?
Nov 06 16:49:44 <smickles>	been years now, hasn't it?
Nov 06 16:49:48 <pigeons>	i dont know, i'm not very cosmopolitan. but they make nice waffles
Nov 06 16:50:00 <thestringpuller>	then reform all the schools. if a school is failing the community should be allowed to reform it
Nov 06 16:50:30 <thestringpuller>	most charter schools that succeed were failing schools before they were "taken over"
Nov 06 16:51:05 <smickles>	oh, seems they got one back in december
Nov 06 16:52:09 <thestringpuller>	dub: there is a free market for education. its called private school
Nov 06 16:52:35 <smickles>	it's not really free market if you still have to pay for the public schools
Nov 06 16:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> pigeons: you think not voting should carry weight somehow? <<< yes. simple majority or no elected official.
Nov 06 16:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	if the candidate doesn't get 50%+ of all votes there's no president that term.
Nov 06 16:52:57 <pigeons>	thestringpuller: but in usa everyone is forced to pay for public school so if they use private school, they pay twice
Nov 06 16:52:58 <mircea_popescu>	same for congress and all the way down
Nov 06 16:53:01 <dub>	yeah but don't charter schools make public schools into voluntary private ones?
Nov 06 16:53:09 <smickles>	i think second place should be the VP
Nov 06 16:53:10 <mircea_popescu>	and if congress doesn't manage to get simple majority of seats it sits idle.
Nov 06 16:53:15 <pigeons>	i like that mircea_popescu
Nov 06 16:53:24 <mircea_popescu>	aye. it's how my tyranny shall work.
Nov 06 16:53:41 <smickles>	yeah, sounds like an interesting system mp
Nov 06 16:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	be like, lucky if you get a president every fifty years
Nov 06 16:54:02 <smickles>	romania is plurality elections, isn't it?
Nov 06 16:54:05 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Nov 06 16:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	the local obama wannabe tried to create a disturbance oust the president
Nov 06 16:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	got their asses handed to them in such grand manner it was funny
Nov 06 16:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	(romania's extreme left is slightly right of the us gop)
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Nov 06 16:59:26 <thestringpuller>	i would just have an emperor
Nov 06 16:59:32 <thestringpuller>	but assasinating him is legal
Nov 06 17:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17395 @ 0.00049848 = 8.6711 BTC [-]
Nov 06 17:03:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7505 @ 0.00049561 = 3.7196 BTC [-]
Nov 06 17:05:54 <thestringpuller>	mr. smickles, we should play monopoly
Nov 06 17:06:03 <thestringpuller>	when you have time tonight
Nov 06 17:06:11 <thestringpuller>	if*
Nov 06 17:08:58 <smickles>	thestringpuller: will you be awake around 04:00 utc?
Nov 06 17:10:33 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: if i move to romainia, will i have to be concerned with gun regulation. (assuming i am bringing guns into the country)
Nov 06 17:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	there's no guns in yurp./
Nov 06 17:11:13 <kakobrekla>	one can get a license
Nov 06 17:11:16 <dub>	leave your wild turkey at the border too
Nov 06 17:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Nov 06 17:11:26 <kakobrekla>	my friend has it
Nov 06 17:11:34 <kakobrekla>	he owns several guns
Nov 06 17:11:34 <smickles>	bah, I don't want to realize a gain on selling these things, then be taxed on it :P
Nov 06 17:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, you can get a license for like, a daisy.
Nov 06 17:11:39 <kakobrekla>	also hunters can have that shit
Nov 06 17:11:48 <kakobrekla>	9mm
Nov 06 17:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	or else, if you are employed as a guard in some very limited set of functions
Nov 06 17:11:57 <kakobrekla>	i dont care for that shit anyway
Nov 06 17:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	policemen here aren't allowed to carry weapons
Nov 06 17:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	they get the guns but no clips.
Nov 06 17:12:12 <kakobrekla>	but i live outside the city, plenty of hunters with guns here
Nov 06 17:12:45 <kakobrekla>	i know personally at least 5
Nov 06 17:13:12 <smickles>	kakobrekla: would http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_Judge be considered a hunting gun?
Nov 06 17:13:42 <kakobrekla>	smickles with a proper permit you can have a non hunting gun or whatever thats is called
Nov 06 17:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	not here.
Nov 06 17:14:07 <dub>	what a silly gun
Nov 06 17:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly.
Nov 06 17:14:38 <smickles>	dub: it's a fun gun
Nov 06 17:14:56 <dub>	what for?
Nov 06 17:15:00 <smickles>	dub: so is this
Nov 06 17:15:01 <smickles>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_686
Nov 06 17:15:14 <smickles>	to shoot
Nov 06 17:15:15 <kakobrekla>	smickles, mircea_popescu http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mnz.gov.si%2Fsi%2Fmnz_za_vas%2Fcivilno_orozje_in_eksplozivi%2Fcivilno_orozje%2F&act=url
Nov 06 17:15:19 <smickles>	it's a fun gun to shoot
Nov 06 17:15:34 <dub>	fun to shoot
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Nov 06 17:15:48 <dub>	shooting is for the purpose of the target dying
Nov 06 17:16:02 <dub>	preferably in a state that it can then be butchered and eaten
Nov 06 17:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	Shot shells in .410 bore are not considered especially effective in personal defense
Nov 06 17:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	end o story.
Nov 06 17:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	get a DE.
Nov 06 17:16:35 <smickles>	dub: well, the 686 i have once served as my sidearm in case a bear came after me
Nov 06 17:16:40 <jurov>	iirc in slovakia you'll need tio pass psychiatric examination to get gun pass
Nov 06 17:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	you hinting smix is unhinged ? :D
Nov 06 17:17:15 <smickles>	that site says that its a permet to acquire a gun
Nov 06 17:17:25 <smickles>	i have already acquire guns
Nov 06 17:18:13 <dub>	if its anything like here which is based on uk law iirc, you'll need a friendly holder of an importer/collector license to bring guns in
Nov 06 17:18:22 <smickles>	heh, come on, launching things at high speeds, accurately, is one of the pennacles of human technology so far
Nov 06 17:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	smickles seriously, the only way it's worth it to bother with guns in europe is if you're holding them illegaly
Nov 06 17:19:16 <smickles>	firing a gun is like communion
Nov 06 17:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	in which case it's not worth it to just hold them
Nov 06 17:19:18 <dub>	probably cheaper to leave your guns and buy new ones
Nov 06 17:19:31 <mircea_popescu>	so unless you plan to start an assasination llc you're better off leaving them in storage in the us
Nov 06 17:19:46 <jurov>	...and protecting people from themselves is one of pinnacles of human civilization
Nov 06 17:19:47 <smickles>	well, poo,
Nov 06 17:19:52 <dub>	is there nothing to hunt in europe?
Nov 06 17:20:00 <jurov>	we do have bears
Nov 06 17:20:03 <dub>	for eating purposes
Nov 06 17:20:12 <kakobrekla>	one can eat a bear.
Nov 06 17:20:18 <smickles>	is there a closer legal storage facility than 'merica to romania
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Nov 06 17:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	smickles also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Desert_Eagle
Nov 06 17:20:59 <smickles>	what about turkey or something
Nov 06 17:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	yes you can hunt, but you need a rifle for that
Nov 06 17:21:10 <jurov>	maybe bosnia... i doubt they have an issue w/guns
Nov 06 17:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	who hunts with a pistol
Nov 06 17:21:21 <mircea_popescu>	jurov bosnia has an issue with mericans
Nov 06 17:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	or wait, was that serbia
Nov 06 17:21:28 <smickles>	I know a guy with a gold plated desert eagle
Nov 06 17:21:33 <dub>	mircea_popescu: depends how well you shoot :)
Nov 06 17:21:49 <dub>	smickles: might be an ace over 300m with that 5 shot thingy
Nov 06 17:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	dub not really. a pistol isn't practically accurate at ya right lol
Nov 06 17:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	that thing wouldn't fire straight over 100 yards if you lubed it with virgin tears.
Nov 06 17:22:13 <dub>	havent you seen bruce willis?
Nov 06 17:22:47 <dub>	two pistols aimed in different directions with pinpoint accuracy, easy
Nov 06 17:22:50 <smickles>	dub: i prefer the 7 shot with a 6' barrel
Nov 06 17:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://romaniantimes.at/news/General_News/2012-01-20/19322/Protest_against_wealthy_celebrities_hunting_wild_boar_in_Romania re hunting
Nov 06 17:23:03 <thestringpuller>	smickles: 400 utc it is
Nov 06 17:23:10 <smickles>	:D
Nov 06 17:23:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i can hit a 10 inch target at 100 yards with my 686
Nov 06 17:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	a 10 inch target ?
Nov 06 17:24:01 <smickles>	yup, no scope or anything
Nov 06 17:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	dude, that's like... larger than a tit.
Nov 06 17:24:07 <smickles>	just stand, aim, fire
Nov 06 17:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	the point is to hit the nipple not the tit.
Nov 06 17:24:32 <smickles>	yeah, but it's 100 yards with a hand gun
Nov 06 17:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	which was my point
Nov 06 17:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	pistols aren't made for that.
Nov 06 17:24:45 <jurov>	mircea, you apply your stick proficience?
Nov 06 17:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i'm an evil shot.
Nov 06 17:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	i scored best in my military district, way above the instructors.
Nov 06 17:25:25 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't even in the army.
Nov 06 17:26:23 <smickles>	i don't recall how accurate i am with my riffle
Nov 06 17:27:03 <smickles>	best i can say is that i hit squrrels in the head at a distance of 'really far away'
Nov 06 17:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	haha works.
Nov 06 17:27:33 <dub>	what does squirrel taste like?
Nov 06 17:27:38 <smickles>	and i almost don't miss clay pigeons with any shotgun i've fired
Nov 06 17:27:54 <mircea_popescu>	smickles course the standard at the time was the ak
Nov 06 17:27:54 <smickles>	dub: like squirrel?
Nov 06 17:28:01 <dub>	mmmm
Nov 06 17:28:18 <mircea_popescu>	squirrel tastes like very small pork
Nov 06 17:28:21 <smickles>	the're not much there, but it's meat, and it's nice to eat
Nov 06 17:28:28 <jurov>	no it tastes like feathers
Nov 06 17:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	urmom tastes like feathers
Nov 06 17:29:17 <smickles>	if it tastes like feathers to you jurov either i cook it better, or i have no taste :D
Nov 06 17:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	In some countries, prices for AKs are very low; in Somalia, Rwanda, Mozambique, Congo and Tanzania prices are between $30 and $125 per weapon, and prices have fallen in the last few decades due to mass counterfeiting.
Nov 06 17:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	dude... $30 that's like... a blowjob.
Nov 06 17:29:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.0004994 = 8.9642 BTC [+]
Nov 06 17:29:43 <kakobrekla>	10 of them in asia.
Nov 06 17:29:50 <smickles>	i'd buy one if i had the chance at 30
Nov 06 17:30:14 <dub>	thats a nip of cheap whiskey
Nov 06 17:30:28 <smickles>	cheap?
Nov 06 17:30:43 <dub>	mediumish maybe
Nov 06 17:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	well... apparently it's also FOUR COWS
Nov 06 17:31:00 <smickles>	last wisky i had was 12 usd for 750ml
Nov 06 17:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	dude, $7.5 cows wtf.
Nov 06 17:31:10 <dub>	smickles: probably not whiskey
Nov 06 17:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	that wasn't whiskey.
Nov 06 17:31:14 <mircea_popescu>	drat.
Nov 06 17:31:22 <smickles>	heh
Nov 06 17:31:22 <dub>	'bourbon' oslt?
Nov 06 17:31:30 <smickles>	no, i don't like burbon so much
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Nov 06 17:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	where's my cherries rdponticelli_
Nov 06 17:34:28 <dub>	$30 is a 21y/o balvenie at the place I spend the most money on whiskey
Nov 06 17:34:51 <dub>	which while not expensive is in the very fucking good whiskey category
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Nov 06 17:35:36 <dub>	on the rollin on dubs whiskey scale
Nov 06 17:36:36 <dub>	some other bars would charge up to $200 for that nip
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Nov 06 17:39:47 <rdponticelli_>	Where are my peaches, mircea_popescu?
Nov 06 17:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128223247928.jpg
Nov 06 17:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	there.
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Nov 06 17:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4530 @ 0.0004994 = 2.2623 BTC [+]
Nov 06 18:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4774 @ 0.0004974 = 2.3746 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 18:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35910 @ 0.0004974 = 17.8616 BTC [-]
Nov 06 18:45:51 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: I think I found your Cherry, it was indeed in Argentina, and it's called Agustina: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=agustina+cherri&start=173&hl=es-419&client=iceweasel-a&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:es-AR:unofficial&biw=1070&bih=585&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnslo&tbnid=otR9YIKXqvX21M:&imgrefurl=http://www.allstarpics.net/0046374/018089240/agustina-cherri-2004-pic.html&docid=LKYSJsKvUdWs-M&imgurl=http://img1.bdbphotos.
Nov 06 18:45:51 <rdponticelli>	com/images/orig/2/e/2eyzesvxmc0fvsmy.jpg&w=454&h=677&ei=L5aZUKu_E42B0AGXzoCIDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=223&vpy=47&dur=5779&hovh=274&hovw=184&tx=124&ty=175&sig=114756820779255678031&page=9&tbnh=159&tbnw=109&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:74,s:100,i:226
Nov 06 18:45:57 <Diablo-D3>	failurl
Nov 06 18:46:14 <rdponticelli>	;)
Nov 06 18:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly.
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Nov 06 18:48:29 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, sorry....
Nov 06 18:48:54 <rdponticelli>	Well, I tried
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Nov 06 18:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	:p
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Nov 06 19:10:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12416 @ 0.0004974 = 6.1757 BTC [-]
Nov 06 19:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29687 @ 0.00049698 = 14.7538 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 19:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16804 @ 0.00049698 = 8.3513 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 20:01:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9090 @ 0.00049812 = 4.5279 BTC [+]
Nov 06 20:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8641 @ 0.00050032 = 4.3233 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 20:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25609 @ 0.00049698 = 12.7272 BTC [-]
Nov 06 20:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4591 @ 0.00049641 = 2.279 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 20:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15076 @ 0.00049641 = 7.4839 BTC [-]
Nov 06 20:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2074 @ 0.00049602 = 1.0287 BTC [-]
Nov 06 20:58:12 <Chaaang-Noi>	jurov i am now
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Nov 06 21:19:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16997 @ 0.00049602 = 8.4309 BTC [-]
Nov 06 21:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39850 @ 0.00050032 = 19.9378 BTC [+]
Nov 06 21:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9363 @ 0.00050032 = 4.6845 BTC [+]
Nov 06 21:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8587 @ 0.00050065 = 4.2991 BTC [+]
Nov 06 21:54:15 <Chaaang-Noi>	so it looks like 4 more years
Nov 06 22:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.0004969 = 11.4287 BTC [-]
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Nov 06 22:36:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19688 @ 0.0004969 = 9.783 BTC [-]
Nov 06 22:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9112 @ 0.00049664 = 4.5254 BTC [-]
Nov 06 22:56:57 <dub>	good shit
Nov 06 22:57:24 <BTC-Mining>	?
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Nov 06 22:59:35 <BTC-Mining>	By the way, looking for BitVPS shares, possibly.
Nov 06 22:59:56 <smickles>	the market no good fory ou?
Nov 06 23:00:25 <BTC-Mining>	I place low bids to be barely the best bid usually.
Nov 06 23:00:46 <BTC-Mining>	But just looking at what people want for them and might buy them at quoted price.
Nov 06 23:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16176 @ 0.00050065 = 8.0985 BTC [+]
Nov 06 23:02:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5124 @ 0.00050112 = 2.5677 BTC [+]
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Nov 06 23:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00050112 = 7.9428 BTC [+]
Nov 06 23:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00049765 = 12.1924 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 00:22:08 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Nov 07 00:22:08 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com
Nov 07 00:22:08 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Oct 16 08:58:37 2012
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Nov 07 00:42:19 <aurigae>	dollar po
Nov 07 00:43:00 <aurigae>	dollar plunging like a stone on obama reelection, guess its not priced in on bitcoin, look eur/usd, gold, copper
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Nov 07 00:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17515 @ 0.00049664 = 8.6986 BTC [-]
Nov 07 00:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13188 @ 0.00049602 = 6.5415 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 00:59:56 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com
Nov 07 00:59:56 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Oct 16 08:58:37 2012
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Nov 07 01:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22950 @ 0.00049847 = 11.4399 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 01:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25341 @ 0.00049602 = 12.5696 BTC [-]
Nov 07 01:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19559 @ 0.00049578 = 9.697 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 02:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00049847 = 12.0381 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 02:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00049921 = 11.9561 BTC [+]
Nov 07 02:27:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 428 @ 0.00049578 = 0.2122 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 02:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00050042 = 13.136 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 03:17:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25463 @ 0.00049578 = 12.624 BTC [-]
Nov 07 03:18:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 906 @ 0.00049561 = 0.449 BTC [-]
Nov 07 03:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8371 @ 0.00049485 = 4.1424 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 03:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17382 @ 0.00050042 = 8.6983 BTC [+]
Nov 07 03:43:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3518 @ 0.00050112 = 1.7629 BTC [+]
Nov 07 04:08:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1345 @ 0.00049485 = 0.6656 BTC [-]
Nov 07 04:08:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00049441 = 9.5916 BTC [-]
Nov 07 04:08:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26055 @ 0.00049421 = 12.8766 BTC [-]
Nov 07 04:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22864 @ 0.00049643 = 11.3504 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 04:58:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12286 @ 0.00049643 = 6.0991 BTC [+]
Nov 07 04:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21495 @ 0.00049421 = 10.623 BTC [-]
Nov 07 04:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31950 @ 0.00049355 = 15.7689 BTC [-]
Nov 07 04:58:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6569 @ 0.00049315 = 3.2395 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 05:23:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25831 @ 0.00049315 = 12.7386 BTC [-]
Nov 07 05:23:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00049303 = 5.8424 BTC [-]
Nov 07 05:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28619 @ 0.00049282 = 14.104 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 05:49:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10355 @ 0.00049282 = 5.1032 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 06:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4526 @ 0.00049282 = 2.2305 BTC [-]
Nov 07 06:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8993 @ 0.00049275 = 4.4313 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 06:41:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00050126 = 9.5239 BTC [+]
Nov 07 06:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00050182 = 2.9106 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 06:57:55 <rg>	anyone here intersted in paying a bill with their cc in exchange for btc
Nov 07 07:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17456 @ 0.00049875 = 8.7062 BTC [-]
Nov 07 07:32:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00049926 = 8.5873 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 07:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23266 @ 0.00050182 = 11.6753 BTC [+]
Nov 07 07:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28734 @ 0.00050226 = 14.4319 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 08:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21116 @ 0.00050226 = 10.6057 BTC [+]
Nov 07 08:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00050257 = 5.277 BTC [+]
Nov 07 08:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4634 @ 0.00050296 = 2.3307 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 08:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00049999 = 4.7999 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 09:14:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4670 @ 0.00049926 = 2.3315 BTC [-]
Nov 07 09:14:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1630 @ 0.00049875 = 0.813 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 09:39:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4314 @ 0.00049875 = 2.1516 BTC [-]
Nov 07 09:39:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29250 @ 0.00049854 = 14.5823 BTC [-]
Nov 07 09:39:56 <Chaang-Noi>	so whats the deal with asics, who is going to get there first?
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Nov 07 10:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9247 @ 0.00049345 = 4.5629 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 10:30:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9247 @ 0.00049275 = 4.5565 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 11:20:39 <mod6>	werd up
Nov 07 11:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5636 @ 0.00049518 = 2.7908 BTC [+]
Nov 07 11:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	wassup
Nov 07 11:26:48 <EskimoBob>	nuthhing
Nov 07 11:27:42 <EskimoBob>	talked to nefario today
Nov 07 11:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	cyber or business ?
Nov 07 11:28:39 <EskimoBob>	he said it's now matter of days to a week to get this stuff all nicely cleared up
Nov 07 11:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, october all over again
Nov 07 11:31:01 <EskimoBob>	yeah
Nov 07 11:32:27 <EskimoBob>	will see. Because most people are liars and thieves, it's close to impossible to clear it up without his help
Nov 07 11:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoins keep one young/
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Nov 07 11:36:59 <rg>	mircea
Nov 07 11:37:05 <rg>	what's a popular romanian food
Nov 07 11:37:09 <rg>	besides chicken nuggets
Nov 07 11:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	a sort of polenta called mamaliga is the traditional food.
Nov 07 11:37:51 <mircea_popescu>	sarmale, which is cabbage stuffed with ground meat and rice, a turkish dish
Nov 07 11:38:08 <kakobrekla>	isnt it pork al quran or smth
Nov 07 11:38:21 <rg>	oo
Nov 07 11:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	a local sort of baba ganoush (called simply eggplant salad)
Nov 07 11:38:24 <rg>	that actually sounds really good
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Nov 07 11:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	is pretty huge.
Nov 07 11:38:57 <mircea_popescu>	tripe soup, various steaks and pan fries
Nov 07 11:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	zacusca which i'm sure kako knows of, it's a veggie stew (usually preserved)
Nov 07 11:39:43 <kakobrekla>	tripe soup is preety eww.
Nov 07 11:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	depends how much you drunk.
Nov 07 11:39:55 <kakobrekla>	:)
Nov 07 11:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	there's loads rg, romanians are really high on cuisine.
Nov 07 11:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	girl that can't cook = unfit to fuck.
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Nov 07 11:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	 You are being CTCP flooded from [MOFO], ignoring *!*@ool-457a56df.dyn.optonline.net
Nov 07 11:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda sweet.
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Nov 07 11:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00049999 = 3.3999 BTC [+]
Nov 07 11:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42404 @ 0.00050296 = 21.3275 BTC [+]
Nov 07 11:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4346 @ 0.00050299 = 2.186 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 11:48:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28854 @ 0.00050299 = 14.5133 BTC [+]
Nov 07 11:48:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13488 @ 0.00050302 = 6.7847 BTC [+]
Nov 07 11:48:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25250 @ 0.00050323 = 12.7066 BTC [+]
Nov 07 11:48:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00050346 = 8.5588 BTC [+]
Nov 07 11:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00050414 = 15.7292 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 11:48:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00050467 = 9.5887 BTC [+]
Nov 07 11:48:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52008 @ 0.00050509 = 26.2687 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 11:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	omg .0005 is breached
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Nov 07 12:01:39 <jurov>	apparently the ban didnt help
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Nov 07 12:02:09 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Nov 07 12:02:13 <kakobrekla>	its quiet here
Nov 07 12:02:41 <jurov>	ú17:59] [CTCP] Received CTCP-PING request from [MOFO] to channel #bitcoin-dev, sending answer.
Nov 07 12:02:54 <kakobrekla>	thats -dev
Nov 07 12:03:03 <jurov>	ah sry
Nov 07 12:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	why do you answer to pings anyway ?
Nov 07 12:03:51 <rg>	[12:03] »» Ping reply from mircea_popescu: ? second(s)
Nov 07 12:03:52 <rg>	you reply
Nov 07 12:04:08 <kakobrekla>	you need to reply but only to server
Nov 07 12:04:52 <mircea_popescu>	? seconds ?!
Nov 07 12:04:59 <kakobrekla>	the new kind of int
Nov 07 12:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	this is a brilliant idea!
Nov 07 12:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	jurov, i think i'ma replace all ints with ? in statjson
Nov 07 12:07:51 <jurov>	hehe
Nov 07 12:08:31 <kakobrekla>	you should also make a deal for ? trucks of cherries with the cat.
Nov 07 12:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	for sure.
Nov 07 12:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	? trucks of !
Nov 07 12:11:05 <jurov>	BUY|!|?
Nov 07 12:11:19 <jurov>	and pls document it first
Nov 07 12:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	BUY|!|? documentation : !=* ; ? = % or _ depending on context.
Nov 07 12:12:48 <kakobrekla>	this is better than fix.
Nov 07 12:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	and the discrimination between buy and sell has to cease. we'd save a lot of time if it just were
Nov 07 12:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	TRADE|!|?
Nov 07 12:13:53 <kakobrekla>	yea, look up to mbot.
Nov 07 12:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3592 @ 0.00050509 = 1.8143 BTC [+]
Nov 07 12:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5245 @ 0.00050513 = 2.6494 BTC [+]
Nov 07 12:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	also, shares should be divisible, like copumpkin says. and prices should sometimes include letters too.
Nov 07 12:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	especially f and u.
Nov 07 12:15:08 <kakobrekla>	theres nothing wrong with scientific notation
Nov 07 12:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	actually... maybe we could just use cherries instead of digits/letters. make mpex look more like a slot machine.
Nov 07 12:15:56 <kakobrekla>	put a cherry in the square instad of mermaid
Nov 07 12:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 07 12:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122558.msg1322374#msg1322374 ahaha
Nov 07 12:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	bitcointalk.org. to entertain, educate and enrich.
Nov 07 12:17:04 *	PsychoticBoy_ is now known as PsychoticBoy
Nov 07 12:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	butt mostly entertain.
Nov 07 12:17:52 <rg>	ITS MY FIRST DAY OF WORK
Nov 07 12:18:02 <rg>	i really with Diablo-D3 did his hosting idea
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Nov 07 12:18:14 <rg>	cause id work at the place where his servers were
Nov 07 12:18:28 <copumpkin>	!
Nov 07 12:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	?
Nov 07 12:19:48 <kakobrekla>	%
Nov 07 12:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	here's a picture of some girls taking a bath http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/130990305915.jpg
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Nov 07 12:27:55 <kakobrekla>	http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5776631_700b.jpg
Nov 07 12:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Nov 07 12:39:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31606 @ 0.00050363 = 15.9177 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 13:05:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9523 @ 0.00050363 = 4.7961 BTC [-]
Nov 07 13:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00050299 = 7.0419 BTC [-]
Nov 07 13:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15862 @ 0.00050148 = 7.9545 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 13:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5493 @ 0.00050148 = 2.7546 BTC [-]
Nov 07 13:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13956 @ 0.00049987 = 6.9762 BTC [-]
Nov 07 13:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3814 @ 0.00049967 = 1.9057 BTC [-]
Nov 07 13:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25337 @ 0.00049954 = 12.6568 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 15:14:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24667 @ 0.00050247 = 12.3944 BTC [+]
Nov 07 15:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9333 @ 0.00050513 = 4.7144 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 15:40:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20522 @ 0.00050513 = 10.3663 BTC [+]
Nov 07 15:40:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00050538 = 9.1979 BTC [+]
Nov 07 15:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7708 @ 0.00050547 = 3.8962 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 15:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122881.0 <<< if anyone can draw.
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Nov 07 15:58:09 <jurov>	cherries like these? http://www.kscm.cz
Nov 07 15:58:27 <jurov>	(Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia)
Nov 07 15:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	kinda bent
Nov 07 16:01:14 <kakobrekla>	o hehe
Nov 07 16:05:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21742 @ 0.00050547 = 10.9899 BTC [+]
Nov 07 16:05:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00050552 = 11.4753 BTC [+]
Nov 07 16:05:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7172 @ 0.0005059 = 3.6283 BTC [+]
Nov 07 16:05:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10986 @ 0.0005064 = 5.5633 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 16:12:16 <kakobrekla>	too bad i cant draw to save my life
Nov 07 16:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Nov 07 16:31:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.000503 = 9.3558 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 16:34:39 <dub>	the only truck I have to hand is probably not appropriate
Nov 07 16:36:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i herd you lik welfare
Nov 07 16:36:44 <thestringpuller>	jk
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Nov 07 16:46:27 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119745.msg1321870#msg1321870
Nov 07 16:46:55 <jurov>	do i understand correctly? starts leverage trding platform using 300BTC capital?
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Nov 07 16:48:28 <jurov>	starfish ftw
Nov 07 16:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	i don;t think 300 btc
Nov 07 16:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	from what ppl were saying (mostly guruvan ) he has something like 30-60 btc of assets.
Nov 07 16:52:55 <pigeons>	this isn't the guy using the bitcoinica code without fixing any of the obvious bugs is it?
Nov 07 16:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol katz has a change of heart https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1322915#msg1322915
Nov 07 16:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons why yes, yes it is.
Nov 07 16:53:48 <pigeons>	well that's nice about katz, i respect changing your mind and realizing when your wrong, cause i have to do it all the time ;)
Nov 07 16:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	the mildly obnoxious thing about it is that he does it with the "i always said" angle
Nov 07 16:54:20 <pigeons>	heh
Nov 07 16:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	get all the pain and misery without any of the educational benefit sorta plan.
Nov 07 16:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick who else got hit these past days with ddos/crap ?
Nov 07 16:57:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00050437 = 7.3134 BTC [+]
Nov 07 16:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00050258 = 7.3628 BTC [-]
Nov 07 16:57:07 <sgornick>	BTC-e gets hit pretty regularly.  Their thread alleges it was a hit by Mt. Gox.
Nov 07 16:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	o, that i heard but it seemed fluff.
Nov 07 16:57:29 <pigeons>	no it was the secret cabal that is out to get quickbitcoins
Nov 07 16:57:30 <sgornick>	WalletBit and BitPay got hit in September, with ransom note
Nov 07 16:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	i had about 3-4 hours of 5-10 hits a second with bs requests
Nov 07 16:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	masking a somewhat clumsy probing session
Nov 07 16:58:03 <sgornick>	If I remember correctly, I think BitSTAMP got a DDoS + ransom note recently too
Nov 07 16:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	the server didn't care, and i wrote it off as noob/script kiddie, but if there's any pattern in btcworld that's interesting
Nov 07 16:58:48 <pigeons>	i hope the ransom note had goatscii
Nov 07 16:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	i hope bitcoin makes actual ransom workable thus taking out of business everyone running shitty software
Nov 07 16:59:31 <mircea_popescu>	that'd make me so happy i could cry.
Nov 07 17:00:04 <pigeons>	did you read the symantec emails, where the cfo said they would pay the ransom so long as it was in paypal
Nov 07 17:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	the day shittysoft sales people all come home with "sorry, we can't afford all the ransoms to run your crapware" from all "customers"
Nov 07 17:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Nov 07 17:01:28 <pigeons>	pastebin.com/GJEKf1T9
Nov 07 17:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	Mensaje verificado por el Antispam Terra.
Nov 07 17:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	that part is possibly the funniest.
Nov 07 17:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido.
Nov 07 17:03:27 <mircea_popescu>	pretty retarded stuff. but i hadn't seen it.
Nov 07 17:04:54 <dub>	symantec is pretty retarded, not sure why anyone would want thier source
Nov 07 17:05:23 <dub>	'need to fuck this computer up, brb installing NAV'
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Nov 07 17:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 07 17:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	their source was prolly lulzy
Nov 07 17:09:45 <pigeons>	well first they said, we dont care, release it, its old, then when they started letting it out they said hold on, let us fix some bugs!
Nov 07 17:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 07 17:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	the blackmailing kids are just as ridiculous tjho
Nov 07 17:11:49 <mircea_popescu>	what's this, southern confort blackmail ?
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Nov 07 17:20:10 <kakobrekla>	well i dared, mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122881.msg1322990#msg1322990
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Nov 07 17:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	is that you or gf ?
Nov 07 17:20:34 <kakobrekla>	me
Nov 07 17:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	actually it's pretty good but...
Nov 07 17:21:21 <mircea_popescu>	where's the cherries ?
Nov 07 17:21:27 <kakobrekla>	umm?
Nov 07 17:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	well ?
Nov 07 17:21:56 <kakobrekla>	the red balls in the cargo space
Nov 07 17:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	this is a milk drawing.
Nov 07 17:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00050449 = 5.953 BTC [+]
Nov 07 17:22:23 <kakobrekla>	:(
Nov 07 17:22:31 <mircea_popescu>	o wait, there ARE cherries in there
Nov 07 17:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol i thought just the stems
Nov 07 17:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	no, srsly, pretty good.
Nov 07 17:23:21 <kakobrekla>	hm
Nov 07 17:24:53 <kakobrekla>	wait
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Nov 07 17:42:23 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122881.msg1323020#msg1323020
Nov 07 17:43:09 <kakobrekla>	hm bah im missing the light on the last two and the bumper
Nov 07 17:43:09 <mircea_popescu>	prolly last
Nov 07 17:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	ya lol
Nov 07 17:43:33 <kakobrekla>	thats a quick fix
Nov 07 17:48:35 <kakobrekla>	done
Nov 07 17:48:50 <kakobrekla>	and with that im finished drawing this ridiculus shit.
Nov 07 17:49:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28345 @ 0.00050449 = 14.2998 BTC [+]
Nov 07 17:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 07 17:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	engrossing isn't it.
Nov 07 17:50:21 <kakobrekla>	ya
Nov 07 17:50:25 <kakobrekla>	5btc is not enough.
Nov 07 17:55:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 36 @ 0.0032 = 0.1152 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 18:20:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00050258 = 6.3074 BTC [-]
Nov 07 18:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00050239 = 12.3588 BTC [-]
Nov 07 18:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00050218 = 10.2194 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 18:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3546 @ 0.00050218 = 1.7807 BTC [-]
Nov 07 18:45:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27880 @ 0.00050215 = 13.9999 BTC [-]
Nov 07 18:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22074 @ 0.00050163 = 11.073 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 19:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12526 @ 0.00050163 = 6.2834 BTC [-]
Nov 07 19:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00049955 = 1.4987 BTC [-]
Nov 07 19:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1263 @ 0.00049954 = 0.6309 BTC [-]
Nov 07 19:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1161 @ 0.00049939 = 0.5798 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 19:36:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41800 @ 0.00049939 = 20.8745 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 19:56:46 <nodes12>	Hi we are pleased to announce the existence of #bitcoin-otc-uk. The OTC trading platform for all your UK trading needs. Please feel free to support #bitcoin-otc-uk. and please make sure you let new UK traders and new UK buyers know about the existence #bitcoin-otc-uk. Thank you and happy trading.
Nov 07 19:58:28 <dub>	hi we are pleased to tell you to fuck off
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Nov 07 20:01:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12189 @ 0.00049939 = 6.0871 BTC [-]
Nov 07 20:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.0004993 = 19.6225 BTC [-]
Nov 07 20:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 317 @ 0.0004984 = 0.158 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 20:20:00 <smickles>	< dub> hi we are pleased to tell you to fuck off << ++
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Nov 07 20:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6532 @ 0.00049959 = 3.2633 BTC [+]
Nov 07 20:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43868 @ 0.0004984 = 21.8638 BTC [-]
Nov 07 20:28:01 <dub>	some asshat spammed this channel in -otc so expect an influx of fuckwads
Nov 07 20:30:43 <smickles>	oh my
Nov 07 20:31:01 <kakobrekla>	*crickets*
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Nov 07 20:36:36 <smickles>	Lovely Spaaam! Wonderful Spaaam!
Nov 07 20:36:36 <smickles>	Lovely Spaaam! Wonderful Spam.
Nov 07 20:36:36 <smickles>	Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.
Nov 07 20:36:36 <smickles>	Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.
Nov 07 20:36:36 <smickles>	Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.
Nov 07 20:36:38 <smickles>	Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.
Nov 07 20:36:41 <smickles>	Lovely Spaaam! (Lovely Spam!)
Nov 07 20:36:43 <smickles>	Lovely Spaaam! (Lovely Spam!)
Nov 07 20:36:46 <smickles>	Lovely Spaaam!
Nov 07 20:36:48 <smickles>	Spaaam, Spaaam, Spaaam, Spaaaaaam!
Nov 07 20:37:15 <dub>	I'll have some spam spam spam spam spam eggs and spam
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Nov 07 20:52:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7015 @ 0.0004984 = 3.4963 BTC [-]
Nov 07 20:52:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3048 @ 0.00049821 = 1.5185 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 21:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17701 @ 0.00049821 = 8.8188 BTC [-]
Nov 07 21:18:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19699 @ 0.00049758 = 9.8018 BTC [-]
Nov 07 21:22:21 <dub>	oh hey
Nov 07 21:22:22 <dub>	 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered : Oct 06 11:40:44 2002 (10 years, 5 weeks, 0 days, 14:38:52 ago)
Nov 07 21:22:35 <dub>	missed my birthday
Nov 07 21:26:21 <kakobrekla>	not bad grandpa, congrats.
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Nov 07 21:39:15 <mod6>	:]
Nov 07 21:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11997 @ 0.00049758 = 5.9695 BTC [-]
Nov 07 21:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9443 @ 0.00049748 = 4.6977 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 22:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00049748 = 11.8649 BTC [-]
Nov 07 22:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8475 @ 0.00049748 = 4.2161 BTC [-]
Nov 07 22:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27927 @ 0.00049742 = 13.8914 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 23:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1073 @ 0.00049742 = 0.5337 BTC [-]
Nov 07 23:00:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00049662 = 5.7111 BTC [-]
Nov 07 23:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11440 @ 0.00049659 = 5.681 BTC [-]
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Nov 07 23:18:58 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone here use webmoney?
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Nov 07 23:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23417 @ 0.00049851 = 11.6736 BTC [+]
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Nov 07 23:43:22 *	Received a CTCP PING 346406300 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:23 *	Received a CTCP PING 346406690 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:23 *	Received a CTCP PING 346407002 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346407299 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346407626 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:25 *	Received a CTCP PING 346407938 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:36 *	Received a CTCP PING 346417189 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:36 *	Received a CTCP PING 346417454 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:37 *	Received a CTCP PING 346417720 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:37 *	Received a CTCP PING 346418032 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:38 <SupaDupa>	light my ass up!
Nov 07 23:43:38 *	Received a CTCP PING 346419389 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:39 *	Received a CTCP PING 346421900 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:40 *	Received a CTCP PING 346422400 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:40 *	Received a CTCP PING 346422696 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:41 *	Received a CTCP PING 346422977 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:41 *	Received a CTCP PING 346423258 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:42 *	Received a CTCP PING 346423538 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:42 *	Received a CTCP PING 346423757 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:43 *	Received a CTCP PING 346424022 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:43 *	Received a CTCP PING 346424303 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:44 *	Received a CTCP PING 346424693 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:44 <SupaDupa>	I'm breakn a sweat!
Nov 07 23:43:45 *	Received a CTCP PING 346425005 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:56 *	Received a CTCP PING 346434302 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:56 *	Received a CTCP PING 346434630 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:57 *	Received a CTCP PING 346434942 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:57 *	Received a CTCP PING 346435192 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:58 *	Received a CTCP PING 346435457 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:58 *	Received a CTCP PING 346435706 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:59 *	Received a CTCP PING 346436034 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:43:59 *	Received a CTCP PING 346437391 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:00 *	Received a CTCP PING 346439903 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:01 *	Received a CTCP PING 346440402 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:01 *	Received a CTCP PING 346440699 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:02 *	Received a CTCP PING 346440979 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:02 *	Received a CTCP PING 346441260 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:03 *	Received a CTCP PING 346441557 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:03 *	Received a CTCP PING 346441759 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346442056 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346442305 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:05 *	Received a CTCP PING 346442695 from SupaDupa (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:44:07 *	SupaDupa has quit (Excess Flood)
Nov 07 23:44:22 *	[MOFO] (~gmycracki@host21-207-static.118-2-b.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Nov 07 23:45:26 *	Received a CTCP PING 346531382 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346531928 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346532240 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346532599 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346532911 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346533270 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346533675 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346534065 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346534471 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:30 *	Received a CTCP PING 346535251 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:32 *	Received a CTCP PING 346537840 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:32 *	Received a CTCP PING 346537840 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 346537840 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 346537840 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 346537903 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 346538262 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:44 *	Received a CTCP PING 346549057 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:45 *	Received a CTCP PING 346549478 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:45 *	Received a CTCP PING 346550258 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:46 *	Received a CTCP PING 346551381 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:46 *	Received a CTCP PING 346551927 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:46 *	Received a CTCP PING 346552239 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:47 *	Received a CTCP PING 346552629 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:48 *	Received a CTCP PING 346552910 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:48 *	Received a CTCP PING 346553269 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:48 *	Received a CTCP PING 346553674 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:49 *	Received a CTCP PING 346554064 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:49 *	Received a CTCP PING 346554470 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:50 *	Received a CTCP PING 346555328 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:50 *	Received a CTCP PING 346556389 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:51 *	Received a CTCP PING 346556935 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346557247 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346557715 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:45:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346557918 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346569072 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346569524 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:05 *	Received a CTCP PING 346570257 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:06 *	Received a CTCP PING 346571412 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:06 *	Received a CTCP PING 346571927 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 346572239 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 346572597 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 346572941 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:08 *	Received a CTCP PING 346573268 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:08 *	Received a CTCP PING 346573674 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 346574064 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 346574469 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:10 *	Received a CTCP PING 346575249 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:11 *	Received a CTCP PING 346576388 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:11 *	Received a CTCP PING 346576934 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 346577246 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 346577605 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:13 *	Received a CTCP PING 346577917 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346589087 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346589477 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:25 *	Received a CTCP PING 346590257 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:26 *	Received a CTCP PING 346591380 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:26 *	Received a CTCP PING 346591926 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:26 *	Received a CTCP PING 346592238 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346592597 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346592909 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346593268 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346593673 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346594063 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346594531 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:30 *	Received a CTCP PING 346595249 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:31 *	Received a CTCP PING 346596388 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:31 *	Received a CTCP PING 346596934 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:32 *	Received a CTCP PING 346597324 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:32 *	Received a CTCP PING 346597604 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 346598119 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:44 *	Received a CTCP PING 346609273 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:44 *	Received a CTCP PING 346609476 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:45 *	Received a CTCP PING 346610256 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:46 *	Received a CTCP PING 346611504 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:47 *	Received a CTCP PING 346612471 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:47 *	Received a CTCP PING 346612471 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:47 *	Received a CTCP PING 346612596 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:48 *	Received a CTCP PING 346613282 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:48 *	Received a CTCP PING 346613282 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:48 *	Received a CTCP PING 346613782 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:49 *	Received a CTCP PING 346614421 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:49 *	Received a CTCP PING 346614468 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:50 *	Received a CTCP PING 346615248 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:51 *	Received a CTCP PING 346616496 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:51 *	Received a CTCP PING 346617011 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:51 *	Received a CTCP PING 346617245 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346617619 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:46:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346618025 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346629070 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346629475 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:05 *	Received a CTCP PING 346630255 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:06 *	Received a CTCP PING 346631441 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:06 *	Received a CTCP PING 346632049 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 346632237 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 346632783 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 346632907 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:08 *	Received a CTCP PING 346633266 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:08 *	Received a CTCP PING 346633672 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 346634062 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 346634467 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:10 *	Received a CTCP PING 346635247 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:11 *	Received a CTCP PING 346636386 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:11 *	Received a CTCP PING 346636932 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 346637260 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 346637603 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:13 *	Received a CTCP PING 346637915 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346649069 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346649475 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:25 *	Received a CTCP PING 346650255 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:26 *	Received a CTCP PING 346651425 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:26 *	Received a CTCP PING 346651924 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346652236 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346652595 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346653047 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346653265 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346653811 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346654061 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346654467 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:30 *	Received a CTCP PING 346655247 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:31 *	Received a CTCP PING 346656386 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:31 *	Received a CTCP PING 346656932 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:32 *	Received a CTCP PING 346657244 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:32 *	Received a CTCP PING 346657602 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:32 *	Received a CTCP PING 346657914 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:44 *	Received a CTCP PING 346669068 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:44 *	Received a CTCP PING 346669474 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:45 *	Received a CTCP PING 346670254 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:46 *	Received a CTCP PING 346671377 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:46 *	Received a CTCP PING 346671923 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:47 *	Received a CTCP PING 346672235 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:47 *	Received a CTCP PING 346672594 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:47 *	Received a CTCP PING 346672906 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:48 *	Received a CTCP PING 346673265 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:48 *	Received a CTCP PING 346673670 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:49 *	Received a CTCP PING 346674060 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:49 *	Received a CTCP PING 346674466 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:50 *	Received a CTCP PING 346675246 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:51 *	Received a CTCP PING 346676385 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:51 *	Received a CTCP PING 346676931 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346677243 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346677602 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:47:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346677914 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346689068 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346689473 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:05 *	Received a CTCP PING 346690253 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:06 *	Received a CTCP PING 346691377 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:06 *	Received a CTCP PING 346691954 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 346692235 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 346692593 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 346692905 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:08 *	Received a CTCP PING 346693264 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:08 *	Received a CTCP PING 346693670 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 346694060 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 346694465 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:10 *	Received a CTCP PING 346695245 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:10 *	Received a CTCP PING 346696384 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:11 *	Received a CTCP PING 346696930 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 346697242 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 346697601 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 346697913 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346709067 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346709473 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:25 *	Received a CTCP PING 346710299 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:26 *	Received a CTCP PING 346711454 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346711922 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346712234 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346712624 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346712905 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346713263 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346713669 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346714059 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:30 *	Received a CTCP PING 346714465 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:30 *	Received a CTCP PING 346715245 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:32 *	Received a CTCP PING 346716383 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 346716929 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 346717241 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 346717616 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 346717912 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:34 *	Received a CTCP PING 346718271 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:34 *	Received a CTCP PING 346718677 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:46 *	Received a CTCP PING 346731375 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:46 *	Received a CTCP PING 346731921 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:47 *	Received a CTCP PING 346732233 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:47 *	Received a CTCP PING 346732686 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:47 *	Received a CTCP PING 346732904 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:48 *	Received a CTCP PING 346733263 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:48 *	Received a CTCP PING 346733668 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:49 *	Received a CTCP PING 346734464 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:49 *	Received a CTCP PING 346734464 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:50 *	Received a CTCP PING 346735244 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:50 *	Received a CTCP PING 346736383 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:51 *	Received a CTCP PING 346736929 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346737241 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346737615 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:52 *	Received a CTCP PING 346737912 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:48:53 *	Received a CTCP PING 346738270 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346749066 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346749471 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:05 *	Received a CTCP PING 346750251 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:06 *	Received a CTCP PING 346751375 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:06 *	Received a CTCP PING 346751921 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:06 *	Received a CTCP PING 346752233 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 346752591 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:08 *	Received a CTCP PING 346752903 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 346753262 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 346753668 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 346754058 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 346754463 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:10 *	Received a CTCP PING 346755243 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:11 *	Received a CTCP PING 346756382 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:11 *	Received a CTCP PING 346756928 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 346757240 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 346757599 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 346757911 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346768269 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346768675 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:24 *	Received a CTCP PING 346769096 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:25 *	Received a CTCP PING 346769471 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:25 *	Received a CTCP PING 346770251 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:26 *	Received a CTCP PING 346771374 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346771920 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346772232 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 346772591 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 07 23:49:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346773277 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:28 *	Received a CTCP PING 346773667 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346774057 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 346774463 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:30 *	Received a CTCP PING 346775243 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:31 *	Received a CTCP PING 346776381 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 07 23:49:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 346777239 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:49:44 *	Received a CTCP PING 346789064 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 07 23:49:45 *	Received a CTCP PING 346790250 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 07 23:49:50 *	Received a CTCP PING 346796381 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 07 23:50:04 *	Received a CTCP PING 346809064 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 07 23:50:05 *	Received a CTCP PING 346810265 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 07 23:50:05 *	Received a CTCP PING 346811388 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 07 23:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7083 @ 0.00049851 = 3.5309 BTC [+]
Nov 07 23:50:44 *	Received a CTCP PING 346849062 from [MOFO] (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 08 00:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9817 @ 0.00049746 = 4.8836 BTC [-]
Nov 08 00:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00049853 = 5.3841 BTC [+]
Nov 08 00:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5663 @ 0.00049876 = 2.8245 BTC [+]
Nov 08 00:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7410 @ 0.00049659 = 3.6797 BTC [-]
Nov 08 00:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15490 @ 0.00049654 = 7.6914 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 01:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.00049654 = 14.1514 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 01:33:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00049876 = 9.1772 BTC [+]
Nov 08 01:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00049814 = 13.4498 BTC [-]
Nov 08 02:08:53 <thestringpuller>	who is awake
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Nov 08 02:24:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20225 @ 0.00049876 = 10.0874 BTC [+]
Nov 08 02:35:09 <EskimoBob>	what is this [MOFO] problem?
Nov 08 02:38:44 <dub>	haxor
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Nov 08 02:49:32 <EskimoBob>	more like a retard
Nov 08 02:49:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00049814 = 4.01 BTC [-]
Nov 08 02:49:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5010 @ 0.00049654 = 2.4877 BTC [-]
Nov 08 02:49:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00049625 = 12.9025 BTC [-]
Nov 08 02:49:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1240 @ 0.00049606 = 0.6151 BTC [-]
Nov 08 03:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2612 @ 0.00049876 = 1.3028 BTC [+]
Nov 08 03:15:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28550 @ 0.00049881 = 14.241 BTC [+]
Nov 08 03:15:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25638 @ 0.00049913 = 12.7967 BTC [+]
Nov 08 03:16:38 <Diablo-D3>	>mofo
Nov 08 03:16:39 <Diablo-D3>	quat
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Nov 08 03:41:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19760 @ 0.00049606 = 9.8021 BTC [-]
Nov 08 03:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13040 @ 0.00049536 = 6.4595 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 04:06:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23825 @ 0.00049913 = 11.8918 BTC [+]
Nov 08 04:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12175 @ 0.00050039 = 6.0922 BTC [+]
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Nov 08 04:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00049837 = 8.2231 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 04:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00049837 = 7.2762 BTC [-]
Nov 08 04:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.0004961 = 0.9426 BTC [-]
Nov 08 05:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32172 @ 0.0004961 = 15.9605 BTC [-]
Nov 08 05:24:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17985 @ 0.00049592 = 8.9191 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 05:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14339 @ 0.00049851 = 7.1481 BTC [+]
Nov 08 06:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2415 @ 0.00049592 = 1.1976 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.0004956 = 8.7721 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:14:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6635 @ 0.00049541 = 3.287 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 06:42:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.000497 = 12.1268 BTC [+]
Nov 08 06:42:12 *	TiggrBot is now known as Guest9194
Nov 08 06:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1659 @ 0.000497 = 0.8245 BTC [+]
Nov 08 06:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36509 @ 0.00049666 = 18.1326 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3622 @ 0.00049594 = 1.7963 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7965 @ 0.00049541 = 3.9459 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20910 @ 0.00049536 = 10.358 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29750 @ 0.00049534 = 14.7364 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49139 @ 0.00049518 = 24.3327 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00049362 = 2.4681 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00049334 = 11.1248 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00049291 = 5.0277 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1110 @ 0.00049275 = 0.547 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00049272 = 4.533 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00049261 = 6.0098 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00049245 = 9.9721 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56236 @ 0.0004924 = 27.6906 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46900 @ 0.00049228 = 23.0879 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00049209 = 8.6116 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49500 @ 0.00049205 = 24.3565 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43400 @ 0.00049205 = 21.355 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00049191 = 8.2149 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00049186 = 9.9602 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.0004918 = 10.3524 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16334 @ 0.0004917 = 8.0314 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39100 @ 0.00049157 = 19.2204 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44050 @ 0.00049154 = 21.6523 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00049136 = 11.4978 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55130 @ 0.0004912 = 27.0799 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.000491 = 15.8839 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57864 @ 0.00049064 = 28.3904 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00049032 = 4.7071 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12216 @ 0.00049019 = 5.9882 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46400 @ 0.00048988 = 22.7304 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37450 @ 0.00048978 = 18.3423 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00048976 = 15.4274 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00048936 = 9.0532 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00048859 = 8.3549 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52010 @ 0.00048836 = 25.3996 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16611 @ 0.00047874 = 7.9524 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36650 @ 0.00047864 = 17.5422 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00047842 = 8.2288 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5694 @ 0.00047841 = 2.7241 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.00047813 = 16.6389 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00047793 = 13.2387 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00047793 = 7.5752 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45659 @ 0.00047788 = 21.8195 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00047778 = 8.815 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.0004772 = 9.5917 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00047719 = 5.8694 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43671 @ 0.00047717 = 20.8385 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24367 @ 0.0004767 = 11.6157 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00047662 = 11.6534 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42892 @ 0.00047618 = 20.4243 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48100 @ 0.0004754 = 22.8667 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52000 @ 0.000475 = 24.7 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00047486 = 10.4469 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00047402 = 9.9781 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38674 @ 0.00047373 = 18.321 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28950 @ 0.00047354 = 13.709 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00047351 = 6.8185 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16902 @ 0.00047304 = 7.9953 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00047279 = 10.8742 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153926 @ 0.00047 = 72.3452 BTC [-]
Nov 08 06:44:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1074 @ 0.00049723 = 0.534 BTC [+]
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Nov 08 07:02:33 <EskimoBob>	46 is in sight
Nov 08 07:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30776 @ 0.00049723 = 15.3028 BTC [+]
Nov 08 07:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2116 @ 0.00049773 = 1.0532 BTC [+]
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Nov 08 07:13:37 <jurov>	bonjour, débrouillards!
Nov 08 07:19:59 <jurov>	The 165th birthday of novelist Bram Stoker has been marked by Google with a Dracula illustration hahaha
Nov 08 07:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	ow da fuck happened here.
Nov 08 07:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00049773 = 3.0113 BTC [+]
Nov 08 07:44:21 <kakobrekla>	http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/math.png
Nov 08 07:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 08 07:53:19 <kakobrekla>	hehe http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_universal_label.png
Nov 08 07:56:38 <pigeons>	https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxnW49twNMNbeEFXUWpqeGhDRUU
Nov 08 07:57:55 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: i don't know anything about htem if you feel like putting them in the topic or checking them out or whatever https://www.havelockinvestments.com/funds.php
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Nov 08 07:59:09 <kakobrekla>	this is new?
Nov 08 07:59:15 <kakobrekla>	does it have a forum thread?
Nov 08 07:59:30 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla
Nov 08 08:00:02 *	kakobrekla has changed the topic to: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi
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Nov 08 08:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8114 @ 0.00049773 = 4.0386 BTC [+]
Nov 08 08:01:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10561 @ 0.00049851 = 5.2648 BTC [+]
Nov 08 08:01:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1725 @ 0.00050039 = 0.8632 BTC [+]
Nov 08 08:01:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22958 @ 0.00050077 = 11.4967 BTC [+]
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Nov 08 08:04:56 <pigeons>	no i don't see much as far as a forum thread, just this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87002
Nov 08 08:05:27 <pigeons>	However, the other fund on that site has a pretty good thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119628.0
Nov 08 08:05:50 <pigeons>	inb4 popescu ridicule
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Nov 08 08:11:44 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Nov 08 08:12:26 <pigeons>	someone decided to play stock market. i am in before your ridicule of them
Nov 08 08:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	"With the lack of a prominent exchange"
Nov 08 08:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok. seems legit.
Nov 08 08:13:01 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder why do the kids imagine denying reality is productive ?
Nov 08 08:13:41 <pigeons>	mpex will never be prominent until it uses twitter bootstrap
Nov 08 08:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	right-o.
Nov 08 08:14:06 <mircea_popescu>	i guess my q is misplaced anyway. what else would they do, it's all they ever learn in "school"
Nov 08 08:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	https://dl.dropbox.com/u/52452135/popescu.jpg ahahah
Nov 08 08:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	the forum delivers.
Nov 08 08:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	i guess from now on if anyone asks me how i found out about btc i'ma say "i just happened"
Nov 08 08:18:15 <kakobrekla>	good pic
Nov 08 08:18:23 <mircea_popescu>	and hilarity will ensue as nobody will know the inside joke other than the insiders, which will bother the outsiders.
Nov 08 08:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	win.
Nov 08 08:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00049706 = 13.1224 BTC [-]
Nov 08 08:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen kumala
Nov 08 08:27:18 <gribble>	I have not seen kumala.
Nov 08 08:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen Kumala
Nov 08 08:27:26 <gribble>	I have not seen Kumala.
Nov 08 08:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	what srsly ?
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Nov 08 08:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00049706 = 3.8771 BTC [-]
Nov 08 08:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24297 @ 0.00049563 = 12.0423 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 09:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10508 @ 0.00049563 = 5.2081 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 09:18:33 <Chaang-Noi>	test
Nov 08 09:42:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16042 @ 0.00050077 = 8.0334 BTC [+]
Nov 08 09:42:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2758 @ 0.00050304 = 1.3874 BTC [+]
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Nov 08 09:53:17 <jurov>	lol,my latent talent has stirred : http://live.coinbr.com/images/cherries.png
Nov 08 09:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha!
Nov 08 09:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool
Nov 08 10:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18459 @ 0.00050304 = 9.2856 BTC [+]
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Nov 08 10:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00050304 = 0.503 BTC [+]
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Nov 08 10:38:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00050034 = 11.9581 BTC [-]
Nov 08 10:38:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00050304 = 0.1006 BTC [+]
Nov 08 10:50:31 <knotwork>	Do the zooms etc in mouse controls box on this page work for anyone? --> http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/plotdvc.html
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Nov 08 11:03:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30760 @ 0.00049823 = 15.3256 BTC [-]
Nov 08 11:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1907 @ 0.00049563 = 0.9452 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 11:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31242 @ 0.00049448 = 15.4485 BTC [-]
Nov 08 11:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17758 @ 0.00049396 = 8.7717 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 11:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8042 @ 0.00049396 = 3.9724 BTC [-]
Nov 08 11:54:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24158 @ 0.0004933 = 11.9171 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 12:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38248 @ 0.00049482 = 18.9259 BTC [+]
Nov 08 12:19:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252 @ 0.00049552 = 0.1249 BTC [+]
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Nov 08 13:11:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00049668 = 1.49 BTC [+]
Nov 08 13:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00049667 = 4.5197 BTC [-]
Nov 08 13:33:39 <jurov>	Who wants to see WoT used universally, pls comment/upvote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/12udi0/dear_rbitcoin_i_have_a_great_webapp_programming/c6ye5my
Nov 08 13:35:13 <mircea_popescu>	you know nano is working on otc 2.o neh ?
Nov 08 13:35:55 <kakobreklaaa>	i dont
Nov 08 13:36:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40050 @ 0.0004979 = 19.9409 BTC [+]
Nov 08 13:36:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7778 @ 0.00050001 = 3.8891 BTC [+]
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Nov 08 13:54:50 <jurov>	did not knew too, but Serajewel informed me... but it seems there won't be identicons nor easily usable API
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Nov 08 13:55:42 <mircea_popescu>	im not entirely clear what'll be like, but i suspect he's gonna try and pull a mpex
Nov 08 13:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	(make the infrastructure, let others make the interface)
Nov 08 13:56:29 <jurov>	yes, mentioned something about gpg-encrypted json
Nov 08 13:57:11 <jurov>	oh, apparently i killed someone of kakobrekla's family. nice.
Nov 08 13:58:14 <Diablo-D3>	http://imgur.com/gallery/YBlrZ
Nov 08 13:59:00 <jurov>	couldn't get over these insecurities, eh?
Nov 08 14:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	say what ?!
Nov 08 14:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol Diablo-D3
Nov 08 14:01:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14969 @ 0.00049667 = 7.4347 BTC [-]
Nov 08 14:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40404 @ 0.000495 = 20 BTC [-]
Nov 08 14:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19927 @ 0.0004933 = 9.83 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 14:07:07 <jurov>	Diablo-D3 ;)
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Nov 08 14:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8564 @ 0.0004933 = 4.2246 BTC [-]
Nov 08 14:27:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00049326 = 5.6972 BTC [-]
Nov 08 14:27:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8636 @ 0.00049295 = 4.2571 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 14:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34590 @ 0.00049295 = 17.0511 BTC [-]
Nov 08 14:52:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18069 @ 0.00049204 = 8.8907 BTC [-]
Nov 08 14:55:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 215 @ 0.10208185 = 21.9476 BTC [+]
Nov 08 15:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119628.msg1313993#msg1313993
Nov 08 15:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	apparently i am not needed.
Nov 08 15:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork doing all the heavy lifting.
Nov 08 15:10:21 <dub>	without reading before that post, is it DMC 2.0?
Nov 08 15:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Nov 08 15:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	they're buying 4 singles except why not go for a rig ?
Nov 08 15:11:24 <rg>	dub
Nov 08 15:11:26 <rg>	order my lunch
Nov 08 15:11:30 <rg>	no one in -otc will do it
Nov 08 15:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	ya, order him something gross
Nov 08 15:11:49 <dub>	fish tacos enroute
Nov 08 15:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	ewgh
Nov 08 15:14:31 <dub>	classic convo in -dev, apparently genjix doesnt irc anymore because all the arugments are a waste of time
Nov 08 15:15:46 <dub>	1. Fuckup in every conceivable way, losing shitloads of everyone elses money
Nov 08 15:15:57 <dub>	2. Vanish because arguments waste your time
Nov 08 15:16:06 <dub>	3. ????
Nov 08 15:16:19 <dub>	4. Priceless
Nov 08 15:16:25 <dub>	amidoitrite?
Nov 08 15:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	dub he doesn't irc anymore because when he tried to come here and "vouch" for nefario i told him where to stick it
Nov 08 15:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	subsequently he whined @ my datacenter about "cp" which went nowhere
Nov 08 15:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	so he is upset at internets
Nov 08 15:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	and might even delete his livejournal!
Nov 08 15:17:44 <dub>	haha
Nov 08 15:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	FOR EVER
Nov 08 15:18:01 <dub>	not HIS LJ PLEASE JESUS
Nov 08 15:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1324805#msg1324805 << meanwhile back at the loony farm...
Nov 08 15:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	i seriously do not understand what psych majors/grad students are thinking.
Nov 08 15:19:51 <mircea_popescu>	there does not exist a mental hospital that could in any conceivable way offer a more fertile field of study.
Nov 08 15:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	they should all be here 24/7.
Nov 08 15:20:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.00049204 = 15.0072 BTC [-]
Nov 08 15:20:51 <pigeons>	https://github.com/phelixbtc/ncsc
Nov 08 15:21:24 <dub>	I try to read what dishwara wrote and I urgently need to take a shit
Nov 08 15:21:34 <dub>	coincidence?
Nov 08 15:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	might be from that fish taco
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Nov 08 16:58:06 <smickles>	lol, mircea_popescu MPOE-PR posts a defaulted contract asking for a scammer tag and gets trolled hard, I post a defaulted contract asking for a scammer tag and get satisfaction in a day or so
Nov 08 16:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	link ?
Nov 08 16:59:12 <smickles>	mpoe-pr https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.0 me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118507.0
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Nov 08 17:01:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00049009 = 8.062 BTC [-]
Nov 08 17:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.... compare who you're going after.
Nov 08 17:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	usagi is like, the inventor of milk.
Nov 08 17:03:09 <mircea_popescu>	but i vaguely recall you being trolled a little re arbitrage there too >D
Nov 08 17:04:00 <smickles>	yeah, but that's nothing like, "you were both mistaken, so mircea, you lose the btc"
Nov 08 17:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol the stuff people came up with in that thread i swear.
Nov 08 17:04:49 <smickles>	also, it shouldn't matter who you are if you've defaulted on a contract, you have still defaulted on the contract
Nov 08 17:05:46 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: well, the issue joelK raised is "legit", but the solution in that case would be to return the full amount of the principle to you
Nov 08 17:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	what issue is that ?!
Nov 08 17:06:36 <smickles>	the common mistake thing
Nov 08 17:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	read to me like "five year olds can not enter into contracts therefore anything anyone says is invalid" sort of bs.
Nov 08 17:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	do explain.
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Nov 08 17:16:01 <smickles>	you don't recognise this sort of thing mircea_popescu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistake_(contract_law)#Common_mistake
Nov 08 17:16:35 <smickles>	I don't mean to suggest that it's aplicable in your case tho
Nov 08 17:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	yes, but i completely fail to see how you reason.
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Nov 08 17:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, if me and patrick had a contract about this online currency which we both believed existed cause we read on something awful
Nov 08 17:16:57 <smickles>	I think PH (possibly thru his own ignorrance) mislead you
Nov 08 17:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	but then it turned out it didn't exist
Nov 08 17:17:05 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be a common mistake.
Nov 08 17:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	mislead me as to what ?
Nov 08 17:17:26 <smickles>	his pirate exposure
Nov 08 17:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Nov 08 17:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	that's a misrepresentation of fact, not a common mistake.
Nov 08 17:18:00 <smickles>	heh, miscommunication here
Nov 08 17:18:05 <thestringpuller>	smickles
Nov 08 17:18:09 <mircea_popescu>	but these distinctions are important.
Nov 08 17:18:16 <thestringpuller>	monopoly fo sure tonight
Nov 08 17:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	if i sell you 100 acres of land which is registered improperly and it turns out it's really 99, and i had no idea, and you had no idea then it could be argued.
Nov 08 17:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	if i sell you 100 acres of land out of a plot of which i already sold someone an acre...
Nov 08 17:20:28 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i brought up the issue of common mistake because I think that, if for whatever reason the parties involved decided to declare a common mistake, JoelK's suggestion that PH return anything less than the principal is wrong
Nov 08 17:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	jk's ideas are all over the place in any event.
Nov 08 17:21:44 <smickles>	thestringpuller, or should I say, sleeps-when-said-be-awake
Nov 08 17:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	basically here's how that thing works : if i'm a bank and i cash a cheque drawn fraudulently by a CEO on his company
Nov 08 17:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	i won't be held liable, if i acted in good faith. it's between the ceo and the company.
Nov 08 17:22:06 <smickles>	i'm up for monopoly at 4 utc :)
Nov 08 17:24:48 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: that senario seems wrong to me
Nov 08 17:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Nov 08 17:25:41 <pigeons>	the common mistake was thinking patrick would repay
Nov 08 17:25:42 <smickles>	that sound more like fraud, rather than a common mistake
Nov 08 17:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	no looky, understand me :
Nov 08 17:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	you are the ceo of widgets, inc.
Nov 08 17:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18692 @ 0.00049009 = 9.1608 BTC [-]
Nov 08 17:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11958 @ 0.00048916 = 5.8494 BTC [-]
Nov 08 17:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	one day you decide to fuck it all, leave for cuba with your secret lover.
Nov 08 17:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	you draw a 500k cheque on the company, come to my bank, cash it.
Nov 08 17:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	you get 500k in cash, board a plane and you're gone.
Nov 08 17:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	the company can't now sue me for 500k. it will have to go sue in cuba.
Nov 08 17:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	i just did what i normally do : execute what the ceo says i should. it;'s not my job to police the corporate officers of widgets, inc.
Nov 08 17:28:54 <dub>	the argument seems to be that PH is himself a victim of his customers scams, not a scammer
Nov 08 17:29:10 <dub>	ie, they promised not to deposti his funds in pirate
Nov 08 17:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	there's that Roswell State Bank v. Lawrence Walker Cotton Co. case on the subject.
Nov 08 17:29:39 <kakobrekla>	but he claimed he can handle the scammers no?
Nov 08 17:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	dub that may well be true. but he can't pass it along to me. he will have to go prosecute them himself.
Nov 08 17:30:26 <dub>	yes well thats a problem with the scammer tag system
Nov 08 17:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i didn't buy shares in a fund he administered (that's a diff scam he pulled). i just loaned him money.
Nov 08 17:30:43 <dub>	it seems to imply intent to scam
Nov 08 17:31:13 <mircea_popescu>	scammer tag is only minimally relevant. the big deal here is that unlike in the pirate case, where everyone involved tried their darndest to hide the ugly truth in the hope they can offload on suckers
Nov 08 17:31:18 <mircea_popescu>	i punctured this lie bubble.
Nov 08 17:31:51 <Diablo-D3>	[05:28:03] <mircea_popescu> i just did what i normally do : execute what the ceo says i should. it;'s not my job to police the corporate officers of widgets, inc.
Nov 08 17:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	in general the way this shit goes is "let's not admit that we've been scammed"
Nov 08 17:31:56 <Diablo-D3>	as long as you're not an executive officer
Nov 08 17:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 in that example i was the bank.
Nov 08 17:32:12 <Diablo-D3>	then yes, you know nothing, legally.
Nov 08 17:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Nov 08 17:32:57 <Diablo-D3>	Im not scrolling up, but how did we get to the point that this was being argued over?
Nov 08 17:33:01 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, for those interested on common mistake caselaw, bell vs lever brothers is the cannonical, lawschool textbook example.
Nov 08 17:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 the patrick hanrett scammer thread in btctalk
Nov 08 17:33:20 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: summarize plz kthx
Nov 08 17:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	patrick harnett was hoping to get away with a soft default because he's a special snowflake,
Nov 08 17:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	it didn't work.
Nov 08 17:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's pretty funny because he's not going to be able to ever find work in his profession again.
Nov 08 17:35:53 <dub>	his assertion that he would cover from private funds is key
Nov 08 17:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	well, on one avenue of inquiry yes it is.
Nov 08 17:38:12 <dub>	if a business defaults because its debtors default the liability lies with those debtors
Nov 08 17:38:33 <dub>	depending on its legal setup
Nov 08 17:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1323947#msg1323947 tbh that's my favourite part of it all.
Nov 08 17:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	dub depends if the business was in the business of picking debtors.
Nov 08 17:39:53 <mircea_popescu>	but the protections of "default" irl don't quite exist in bitcoin.
Nov 08 17:41:15 <dub>	well IRL a lending business has insurance and if the insurer defaults a govt bails it out
Nov 08 17:41:26 <dub>	so its kinda the same
Nov 08 17:41:56 <dub>	except you got fucked directly instead of via a taxman
Nov 08 17:42:01 <Diablo-D3>	okay, Im on drugs
Nov 08 17:42:05 <Diablo-D3>	who is patrick harnett?
Nov 08 17:42:16 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 some forum banker wannabe.
Nov 08 17:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	was giving people ratings at some point.
Nov 08 17:42:31 <Diablo-D3>	whats his professional identity?
Nov 08 17:42:52 <mircea_popescu>	he's a private consultant, energy broker.
Nov 08 17:43:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.srgexpert.com/patrick.html
Nov 08 17:43:08 <Diablo-D3>	ahh, so his name is his brand? Ive never heard of him
Nov 08 17:43:22 <dub>	back to sleep with you
Nov 08 17:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	considering how much he actually has at stake i am uniquely impressed with how stupid he's been.
Nov 08 17:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	i guess people still fail to understand how deep the internet can come to bite you.
Nov 08 17:44:08 <Diablo-D3>	yeah really
Nov 08 17:44:11 <Diablo-D3>	dont fuck with the net
Nov 08 17:44:23 <Diablo-D3>	thats why Im just sitting back and watching nefario try to find some internet proof anal bum cover.
Nov 08 17:44:47 <mircea_popescu>	but in his case, fraud means he has to be fired (by law)
Nov 08 17:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	and he has to disclose that on all future applications (which means he can't be hired)
Nov 08 17:45:10 <Diablo-D3>	wait, does fraud with bitcoins still equal fraud?
Nov 08 17:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	and quite frankly nearing 50 and trying to change careers in this economy...
Nov 08 17:45:20 <dub>	does he have to fire himself?
Nov 08 17:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 if you think i'm not sueing him you're naive.
Nov 08 17:45:29 <mircea_popescu>	dub yea, actually.
Nov 08 17:45:31 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: oh, well, yeah, theres that
Nov 08 17:45:40 <Diablo-D3>	okay so, he fires himself... then... rehires himself?
Nov 08 17:45:47 *	Diablo-D3 confused.
Nov 08 17:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 and you know what ? my jurisdiction allows me to sue him locally. i hope he speaks romanian and is versed in the law.
Nov 08 17:46:20 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, but isnt he american?
Nov 08 17:46:23 <Diablo-D3>	how do you get the money
Nov 08 17:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	nz.
Nov 08 17:46:37 <kakobrekla>	its not money its bitcoin.
Nov 08 17:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	i don't want the money.
Nov 08 17:46:40 <kakobrekla>	:p
Nov 08 17:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	i couldn't care less about teh 500. i want his head.
Nov 08 17:47:00 <Diablo-D3>	500 btc or 500 usd/euros/whatevers?
Nov 08 17:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	500 btc
Nov 08 17:47:16 <Diablo-D3>	fuck dude, thats like, more than I make in a month :<
Nov 08 17:47:17 <dub>	500 NZ-sheeptokens
Nov 08 17:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 08 17:47:33 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 well in a good month i make that every 3rd day
Nov 08 17:47:38 <mircea_popescu>	but this is besides teh point
Nov 08 17:48:25 <dub>	Diablo-D3: you have a job now?
Nov 08 17:49:00 <dub>	or they give you a $5k/month benefit?
Nov 08 17:49:05 <dub>	no wonder US is fucked
Nov 08 17:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	he's a lumberjack and he's ok
Nov 08 17:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	he works all night and he drinks all day...
Nov 08 17:49:39 <dub>	we give them ~$1k/month
Nov 08 17:49:57 <dub>	more when they breed
Nov 08 17:50:05 <Diablo-D3>	dub: I said more than.
Nov 08 17:50:13 <Diablo-D3>	like, a lot more than.
Nov 08 17:50:23 <dub>	idiot
Nov 08 17:50:37 <dub>	that expression is for use when its comparable
Nov 08 17:50:53 <Diablo-D3>	it is > than.
Nov 08 17:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	why all the hate ?
Nov 08 17:51:07 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Nov 08 17:51:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.88000, Best ask: 10.96063, Bid-ask spread: 0.08063, Last trade: 10.96065, 24 hour volume: 25505.17163532, 24 hour low: 10.75000, 24 hour high: 11.07000, 24 hour vwap: 10.92276
Nov 08 17:51:09 <dub>	so I gues syou use that a lot anyway
Nov 08 17:51:19 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 10.88 * 500
Nov 08 17:51:19 <gribble>	5440
Nov 08 17:51:20 <dub>	a dollar?! thats more than I make in a month
Nov 08 17:51:32 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 5440 / 844
Nov 08 17:51:32 <gribble>	6.44549763033
Nov 08 17:51:46 <Diablo-D3>	holy fuck, its more than I make in 6 months =/
Nov 08 17:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	you should go into finance.
Nov 08 17:52:03 <mircea_popescu>	lots of money there.
Nov 08 17:52:21 <dub>	not many people will accept that receiving an unemployment benefit == making money
Nov 08 17:52:47 <Diablo-D3>	dub: thank god I dont.
Nov 08 17:53:00 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I tried that once, but then realized I'd have to be nice to douchebags
Nov 08 17:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22339 @ 0.00048916 = 10.9273 BTC [-]
Nov 08 17:53:22 <mircea_popescu>	haha that;s one way to look at it.
Nov 08 17:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	you have to be at least as nice as my sick hound pr chick
Nov 08 18:00:02 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: hot pr chick* ftfy
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Nov 08 18:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8553 @ 0.00048916 = 4.1838 BTC [-]
Nov 08 18:18:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9863 @ 0.00048806 = 4.8137 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 18:23:12 <Diablo-D3>	man
Nov 08 18:23:25 <Diablo-D3>	whats the shortest way of converting interest per day into interest per year
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Nov 08 18:27:36 <mircea_popescu>	diablo 1.0x ^ 365
Nov 08 18:28:52 <Diablo-D3>	derp.
Nov 08 18:28:57 <Diablo-D3>	I fail at maths.
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Nov 08 18:29:38 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: wait, that cant be right
Nov 08 18:30:18 <mircea_popescu>	it is. what's your daily interest ?
Nov 08 18:30:53 <Diablo-D3>	0.24%, which according to your math I end up with a little more than 2x than I started with
Nov 08 18:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.0024 ^ 365
Nov 08 18:31:57 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Nov 08 18:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.0024 ** 365
Nov 08 18:32:01 <gribble>	2.39875650196
Nov 08 18:32:05 <Diablo-D3>	huh
Nov 08 18:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	that's it.
Nov 08 18:32:16 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: okay so
Nov 08 18:32:28 <Diablo-D3>	according to today's fictional stock portfolio performance
Nov 08 18:32:35 <Diablo-D3>	over the next year if the s&p 500 does not move at all
Nov 08 18:32:41 <Diablo-D3>	and every day is like today
Nov 08 18:32:46 <Diablo-D3>	I could double my money
Nov 08 18:33:00 <Diablo-D3>	ergo, I have just proved wall street is a scam, QED
Nov 08 18:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol right.
Nov 08 18:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	prove global warming too, since you got the tools ready.
Nov 08 18:33:37 <Diablo-D3>	its snowing outside, ergo global warming is real, QED
Nov 08 18:33:41 <mircea_popescu>	"temperature somewhat measured has varied somewhat in the past 50 or so years, therefore global warming"
Nov 08 18:34:38 <dub>	well I dont think thats what science is saying
Nov 08 18:34:52 <dub>	but it helps the retarded to rationalise like that
Nov 08 18:35:12 <dub>	'LOL its colder today than it was yesterday global warming is a lie'
Nov 08 18:35:39 <dub>	disregard 99.9% of scientists
Nov 08 18:35:40 <Diablo-D3>	dub: I said the exact opposite
Nov 08 18:35:49 <Diablo-D3>	it almost never snows this early
Nov 08 18:36:21 <dub>	my point is superficial observations like, its cold or hot today/this year/this decade are meaningless
Nov 08 18:36:45 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, we really need the last million years of data
Nov 08 18:36:52 <Diablo-D3>	and thats hard, but not impossible, to acquire
Nov 08 18:36:54 <dub>	well we have that
Nov 08 18:37:39 <Diablo-D3>	the data indicates we're overdue for an ice age
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Nov 08 18:38:20 <Diablo-D3>	the data also indicates it can get hotter than this and, although we're not making a real change at all,it could be the difference between survival and not
Nov 08 18:38:20 <dub>	the data indicates undeniable human influence in atmospheric carbon levels
Nov 08 18:38:43 <Diablo-D3>	the world can survive an additional degree of average temp
Nov 08 18:38:43 <kakobrekla>	lol
Nov 08 18:38:44 <Diablo-D3>	we cannot.
Nov 08 18:38:57 <Diablo-D3>	and that may be the sum total of environment change by 2050 by the human race
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Nov 08 18:41:44 <dub>	well, no
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Nov 08 18:42:27 <dub>	but denial helps people sleep at night
Nov 08 18:42:27 <Diablo-D3>	dub: 1 degree of global temp is quite a lot of carbon
Nov 08 18:42:35 <Diablo-D3>	dub: btw, Im not denying it
Nov 08 18:42:48 <midnightmagic>	DENY IT DENIER!
Nov 08 18:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22670 @ 0.00049385 = 11.1956 BTC [+]
Nov 08 18:43:15 <dub>	its not just about carbon
Nov 08 18:43:19 <Diablo-D3>	dub: 1 degree of heat, globally, would be catastrophic
Nov 08 18:44:13 <dub>	theres rainforswt dieback, wholesale rape and poisoning of the ocean
Nov 08 18:44:15 <midnightmagic>	the lodgepole pine is going away in ~100yrs
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Nov 08 18:44:26 <midnightmagic>	you can rape.. the ocean?!
Nov 08 18:44:37 <midnightmagic>	how the hell does that work..
Nov 08 18:44:40 <dub>	sure ask china, japan, the US
Nov 08 18:44:49 <dub>	you kill all the fish
Nov 08 18:44:57 <midnightmagic>	I refuse to provide evidence for your water fetish.
Nov 08 18:45:11 <dub>	and leach too much superphosphates into the water
Nov 08 18:45:31 <midnightmagic>	"super"phosphates?
Nov 08 18:45:46 <dub>	yes
Nov 08 18:46:15 <dub>	they have a little S on the front
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Nov 08 18:48:16 <midnightmagic>	looks as though the process to create superphosphates is the more environmentally damaging..
Nov 08 18:49:16 <dub>	the fallout of it leaching into the water is one of the most obvious and dramatic affects of pollution
Nov 08 18:49:41 <midnightmagic>	you mean the effects of crappy oversight in the production facilities where these chemicals are made..
Nov 08 18:49:52 <dub>	no, where they are used
Nov 08 18:50:09 <dub>	runoff from farming
Nov 08 18:50:50 <midnightmagic>	that used to be a common complaint. however, using too much so that the plants don't actually consume it, is a strong economic disincentive for its misuse.
Nov 08 18:52:17 <dub>	it may have improved but still a major problem
Nov 08 18:53:28 <dub>	not that its the only environmental impact of horticulture
Nov 08 18:54:22 <dub>	s/horti/agri/
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Nov 08 19:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28711 @ 0.00048806 = 14.0127 BTC [-]
Nov 08 19:09:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4089 @ 0.00048789 = 1.995 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 19:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00048789 = 7.5623 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 19:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1566 @ 0.00049385 = 0.7734 BTC [+]
Nov 08 19:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23134 @ 0.00050001 = 11.5672 BTC [+]
Nov 08 20:25:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7846 @ 0.00048789 = 3.828 BTC [-]
Nov 08 20:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37907 @ 0.00048764 = 18.485 BTC [-]
Nov 08 20:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1847 @ 0.00048681 = 0.8991 BTC [-]
Nov 08 20:36:54 <midnightmagic>	people gots ta eat
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Nov 08 20:50:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17453 @ 0.00048681 = 8.4963 BTC [-]
Nov 08 20:50:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16847 @ 0.00048676 = 8.2004 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 21:16:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16353 @ 0.00048676 = 7.96 BTC [-]
Nov 08 21:16:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37397 @ 0.00048657 = 18.1963 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 21:41:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3130 @ 0.00048657 = 1.523 BTC [-]
Nov 08 21:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13407 @ 0.00048606 = 6.5166 BTC [-]
Nov 08 22:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00048936 = 12.5766 BTC [+]
Nov 08 22:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00048963 = 0.1714 BTC [+]
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Nov 08 22:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00048628 = 13.5186 BTC [-]
Nov 08 22:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11074 @ 0.00048606 = 5.3826 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 22:57:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30719 @ 0.00048606 = 14.9313 BTC [-]
Nov 08 22:57:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10131 @ 0.000485 = 4.9135 BTC [-]
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Nov 08 23:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18429 @ 0.000485 = 8.9381 BTC [-]
Nov 08 23:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17186 @ 0.000485 = 8.3352 BTC [-]
Nov 09 00:13:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34912 @ 0.000485 = 16.9323 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 00:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19342 @ 0.000485 = 9.3809 BTC [-]
Nov 09 00:43:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28349 @ 0.00048432 = 13.73 BTC [-]
Nov 09 00:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5809 @ 0.0004843 = 2.8133 BTC [-]
Nov 09 00:58:14 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Nov 09 00:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00047 / 0.00048873 / 0.00050304 (3465928 shares, 1,693.93 BTC), 30day: 0.00030871 / 0.00043048 / 0.0005064 (74881326 shares, 32,235.19 BTC)
Nov 09 01:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43965 @ 0.0004843 = 21.2922 BTC [-]
Nov 09 01:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12935 @ 0.00048425 = 6.2638 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 01:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9465 @ 0.00048425 = 4.5834 BTC [-]
Nov 09 01:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20747 @ 0.00048306 = 10.022 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 01:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00048698 = 8.863 BTC [+]
Nov 09 01:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00048838 = 6.1048 BTC [+]
Nov 09 01:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10715 @ 0.00048963 = 5.2464 BTC [+]
Nov 09 02:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18612 @ 0.00048306 = 8.9907 BTC [-]
Nov 09 02:49:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28688 @ 0.00048267 = 13.8468 BTC [-]
Nov 09 03:14:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10812 @ 0.00048762 = 5.2721 BTC [+]
Nov 09 03:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31276 @ 0.00048328 = 15.1151 BTC [-]
Nov 09 03:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18781 @ 0.00048566 = 9.1212 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 04:06:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16835 @ 0.00048963 = 8.2429 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 04:29:27 <mircea_popescu>	domainforsale809 	2:52 am	 	you can purchase "mpex.cn" with a very fair price.
Nov 09 04:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	these dudes with the .cn domains...
Nov 09 04:31:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00049367 = 4.9861 BTC [+]
Nov 09 04:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00049021 = 5.4658 BTC [-]
Nov 09 04:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45072 @ 0.00049547 = 22.3318 BTC [+]
Nov 09 04:58:14 <Chaaang-Noi>	1.5 billion people, what a market :)
Nov 09 04:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Nov 09 05:05:03 <Chaaang-Noi>	lol i see joalkatz is still at it
Nov 09 05:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	that thing still going ?
Nov 09 05:07:28 <Chaaang-Noi>	since i saw it last atleast
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Nov 09 05:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6165 @ 0.00048974 = 3.0192 BTC [-]
Nov 09 05:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23535 @ 0.00048891 = 11.5065 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 05:47:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43700 @ 0.00049517 = 21.6389 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 06:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00049517 = 4.5308 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 06:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18593 @ 0.00048992 = 9.1091 BTC [-]
Nov 09 06:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5565 @ 0.00048891 = 2.7208 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 07:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00048824 = 7.6165 BTC [-]
Nov 09 07:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00048797 = 3.5378 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 07:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00339943 = 1.0198 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 07:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24426 @ 0.00048797 = 11.9192 BTC [-]
Nov 09 07:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9569 @ 0.00048566 = 4.6473 BTC [-]
Nov 09 07:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 418 @ 0.00048434 = 0.2025 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 08:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00048434 = 7.5073 BTC [-]
Nov 09 08:11:18 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Nov 09 08:11:20 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 207185 | Current Difficulty: 3304356.3929903 | Next Difficulty At Block: 207647 | Next Difficulty In: 462 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 1 hour, 32 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3384633.63150263 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.42943644586
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Nov 09 08:27:36 <Chaang-Noi>	when is halving day?
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Nov 09 08:29:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11282 @ 0.00048434 = 5.4643 BTC [-]
Nov 09 08:30:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9269 @ 0.00048328 = 4.4795 BTC [-]
Nov 09 08:33:15 <jurov>	between 29 Nov 9:15 UTC (-2%)  and  27 Nov 16:15 UTC (10%)
Nov 09 08:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	prolly on the 25th
Nov 09 08:43:02 <jurov>	that only if bfl ships/mines.
Nov 09 08:45:35 <Chaaang-Noi>	i expect huge difficulty rise for many alt coins lol
Nov 09 08:45:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	gpu miners are going to get killed
Nov 09 08:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31155 @ 0.00048558 = 15.1282 BTC [+]
Nov 09 09:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00048328 = 2.7064 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 09:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14792 @ 0.00048558 = 7.1827 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 10:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12155 @ 0.00048328 = 5.8743 BTC [-]
Nov 09 10:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7445 @ 0.00048289 = 3.5951 BTC [-]
Nov 09 10:37:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11955 @ 0.00048289 = 5.7729 BTC [-]
Nov 09 10:37:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20045 @ 0.00048256 = 9.6729 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 10:41:28 <Chaang-Noi>	am i doing this right? http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1352469351413.jpg
Nov 09 10:41:32 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Nov 09 10:41:50 <copumpkin>	yep
Nov 09 10:42:27 <Chaang-Noi>	http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1352472748203.jpg
Nov 09 10:42:28 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Nov 09 10:43:26 <copumpkin>	I hate it when my mobo gets dirty too
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Nov 09 10:43:53 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Nov 09 10:46:45 <Chaang-Noi>	http://wikispeed.com/   what is this and why do they take btc?
Nov 09 10:48:33 <pigeons>	its a car they build like "agile" software, they keep making new revs. they take btc cause they are "disruptive" like that ;)
Nov 09 10:48:46 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Nov 09 10:49:11 <Chaang-Noi>	someone on 4chan said they found it on bitcoinfriday.com a site i dont know about
Nov 09 10:49:16 <Chaang-Noi>	however that site wont load for me :/
Nov 09 10:49:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess bitcoin friday is a meme or something on /g/
Nov 09 10:49:30 <Chaang-Noi>	not sure...
Nov 09 10:53:51 <Chaang-Noi>	loading now
Nov 09 10:53:54 <Chaang-Noi>	intersting site
Nov 09 10:54:02 <Chaang-Noi>	odd i heard about it on 4chan and not the forum or irc
Nov 09 10:54:05 <Chaang-Noi>	thats good
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Nov 09 11:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1325789#msg1325789 << first ever claim for bitcointalk legal expenses ?
Nov 09 11:01:52 <kakobrekla>	btw https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123492.0
Nov 09 11:02:02 <kakobrekla>	these things keep popin up!
Nov 09 11:02:03 <kakobrekla>	:)
Nov 09 11:02:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7203 @ 0.00048558 = 3.4976 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:02:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18397 @ 0.00048841 = 8.9853 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 09 11:02:52 <mircea_popescu>	ofcourse. the word got out bitcoin has gathered a large collection of suckers.
Nov 09 11:09:39 <Chaang-Noi>	 bitcointalk legal expenses ?
Nov 09 11:09:45 <Chaang-Noi>	where do you see that?
Nov 09 11:10:15 <Chaang-Noi>	is your link correct?
Nov 09 11:10:39 <Enky>	i'm looking
Nov 09 11:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	For the record, the sought compensation is detailed below:
Nov 09 11:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	500 BTC capital
Nov 09 11:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	+ 1% per week until the date of full repayment. Currently this is 14 weeks (since August the 10th), or 74.7371065 BTC
Nov 09 11:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	+ .01 BTC per word of my posts in this thread. Currently this is 3935 words = 39.35 BTC
Nov 09 11:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	+ Treble damages (punitive).
Nov 09 11:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	Total sought (if discharged today): 1842.2613195 BTC.
Nov 09 11:10:51 <Enky>	legal expenses of what?
Nov 09 11:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	that 0,01 btc per word is a fine precedent.
Nov 09 11:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	enky for prosecuting a claim in bitcoincourt.
Nov 09 11:11:58 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, i did not understand you, i thought the forum was under attack or something
Nov 09 11:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	a no
Nov 09 11:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	just drama as per ususal.
Nov 09 11:12:14 <Chaang-Noi>	joel is lol
Nov 09 11:12:24 <mircea_popescu>	that thread really delivers.
Nov 09 11:12:38 <Chaang-Noi>	he is the only one in the world who would agree with his points on this
Nov 09 11:12:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i hope he is neer a jeduge in real life
Nov 09 11:13:34 <Chaang-Noi>	judge*
Nov 09 11:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	i think he's something like unemployed overqualified california type.
Nov 09 11:14:36 <Chaang-Noi>	he is well known for something
Nov 09 11:14:45 <Chaang-Noi>	but yeah i think you are right
Nov 09 11:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	certanly nothing in the legal profession, way too clueless for that.
Nov 09 11:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	i mean its not even about agreeing or not, it's like, you never heard of san francisco
Nov 09 11:15:40 <mircea_popescu>	well, if you never heard of san francisco you're not from the us
Nov 09 11:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	irrespective if you like obama or romney or ron paul
Nov 09 11:16:15 <Chaang-Noi>	he did something with encryption i think
Nov 09 11:16:45 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been to sf, i dont follow
Nov 09 11:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	suppose someone says "i'm from the us"
Nov 09 11:17:05 <mircea_popescu>	and someone else says "no you're not".
Nov 09 11:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	now, if these two are maybe having an argument about politics, i could see it as a thing you say, you know ?
Nov 09 11:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	but if the first person literally has no idea sf exists... then that's that. they're not from the us.
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Nov 09 11:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35350 @ 0.00048256 = 17.0585 BTC [-]
Nov 09 11:29:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10928 @ 0.00048224 = 5.2699 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 11:52:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11429 @ 0.00048841 = 5.582 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.0004895 = 13.2899 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8457 @ 0.00048955 = 4.1401 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00048998 = 22.2941 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26350 @ 0.00049175 = 12.9576 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36650 @ 0.00049437 = 18.1187 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9628 @ 0.00049547 = 4.7704 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41322 @ 0.00049748 = 20.5569 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3538 @ 0.00050001 = 1.769 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:52:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34392 @ 0.00050042 = 17.2104 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.00050288 = 16.5699 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:53:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19470 @ 0.00050304 = 9.7942 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:53:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4155 @ 0.00050449 = 2.0962 BTC [+]
Nov 09 11:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29009 @ 0.00050518 = 14.6548 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 12:18:26 <mircea_popescu>	I am inclined to assume that MPOE-PR is a minion acting in behalf of Mircea Popescu.
Nov 09 12:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	lmao this is the discovery of the century.
Nov 09 12:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57207 @ 0.0005 = 28.6035 BTC [-]
Nov 09 12:22:04 <pigeons>	shill
Nov 09 12:22:23 <pigeons>	she should at least disclose
Nov 09 12:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	that guy should be on retainer.
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Nov 09 12:36:14 <Chaang-Noi>	did joel say that?
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Nov 09 12:45:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22074 @ 0.00050379 = 11.1207 BTC [+]
Nov 09 12:53:05 <mircea_popescu>	Chaaang-Noi no, the other guy
Nov 09 12:54:03 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Nov 09 13:11:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13476 @ 0.00050379 = 6.7891 BTC [+]
Nov 09 13:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4668 @ 0.00050301 = 2.3481 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 13:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1491 @ 0.00050518 = 0.7532 BTC [+]
Nov 09 13:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9941 @ 0.00050575 = 5.0277 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 14:00:20 <smickles>	OMG, so many more pixels
Nov 09 14:00:42 *	smickles is no longer using an old crt monitor
Nov 09 14:01:31 <mod6>	:D
Nov 09 14:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00050449 = 7.9457 BTC [-]
Nov 09 14:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 09 14:05:13 <smickles>	it's like i was one of those just-bearly-legally-blind people before, and just had laser eye surgery
Nov 09 14:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol!
Nov 09 14:06:44 <smickles>	holy shit, i don't need to have my browser window maximized!
Nov 09 14:09:33 <mod6>	next, check out some pr0n and see how much better pussy looks in HD
Nov 09 14:09:57 <mod6>	=)
Nov 09 14:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Nov 09 14:10:08 <mircea_popescu>	why not irl
Nov 09 14:11:41 <mod6>	remember all of the pr0n from like 94 on the tubes and how pixelated it was lol?
Nov 09 14:11:44 <mod6>	good times
Nov 09 14:11:56 <kakobrekla>	i dont reccomend hd porn, you end up on wiki researching all sorts of std
Nov 09 14:12:18 <mod6>	ahh, i see your point kakobrekla
Nov 09 14:12:23 <mircea_popescu>	i remember ascii porn
Nov 09 14:13:15 <mod6>	haha ( . Y . )
Nov 09 14:14:58 <kakobrekla>	too bad (_|_)bot is erroneous nick
Nov 09 14:15:12 <mod6>	awe
Nov 09 14:21:05 <kuzetsa>	/nick {_|_}bot
Nov 09 14:21:08 <kuzetsa>	try like that :P
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Nov 09 14:34:59 <kakobrekla>	that could be easily interpreted as two boobs
Nov 09 14:35:16 <kuzetsa>	not really
Nov 09 14:35:19 <kuzetsa>	it's a butt
Nov 09 14:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was a biscuit
Nov 09 14:40:58 <kakobrekla>	kuzetsa, imagine this woman lies down on the floor naked and you look from top http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FI21JCXFOXg/UFoMH7IBZ4I/AAAAAAAADhM/zxwOLirnH3k/s400/big-boobs-2.jpg
Nov 09 14:41:03 <kakobrekla>	you will see {_|_}
Nov 09 14:56:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00050301 = 2.8169 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 15:04:22 <thestringpuller>	smickles: 400 utc i will be awake i promise!
Nov 09 15:05:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17830 @ 0.00050301 = 8.9687 BTC [-]
Nov 09 15:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12270 @ 0.0005 = 6.135 BTC [-]
Nov 09 15:05:54 <smickles>	heh, ok, I'll be sure to be there :)
Nov 09 15:08:33 <thestringpuller>	do you know of nate silver?
Nov 09 15:09:42 <copumpkin>	who doesn't!
Nov 09 15:09:49 <copumpkin>	everyone is talking about him these days (for the wrong reasons, probably)
Nov 09 15:10:07 <thestringpuller>	i read his book recently
Nov 09 15:10:21 <thestringpuller>	we make a lot of bad predictions
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Nov 09 15:14:02 <smickles>	;;lucky "nate silver"
Nov 09 15:14:02 <gribble>	http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/
Nov 09 15:19:13 <smickles>	hmm, i wonder how much of the information in his book is on lesswrong.com, and whether it would be worth buying since that site is free to use
Nov 09 15:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	it's a good idea to spend ten bux or w/e to support an author you like
Nov 09 15:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	mostly because if you don't, there won't be any.
Nov 09 15:23:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.0005 = 7.5 BTC [-]
Nov 09 15:23:40 <smickles>	while I agree, I dunno if I like nate silver or not
Nov 09 15:24:04 <smickles>	and it's not like that site replicates the content of the book
Nov 09 15:24:17 <smickles>	they seem to have a similar topic of discussion
Nov 09 15:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	well if you don't know find out lol
Nov 09 15:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	if you care, obviously.
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Nov 09 15:48:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35523 @ 0.0005 = 17.7615 BTC [-]
Nov 09 15:48:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4224 @ 0.00049989 = 2.1115 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 16:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29276 @ 0.00049989 = 14.6348 BTC [-]
Nov 09 16:14:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18824 @ 0.00049909 = 9.3949 BTC [-]
Nov 09 16:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11576 @ 0.00049909 = 5.7775 BTC [-]
Nov 09 16:39:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8124 @ 0.00049903 = 4.0541 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 16:57:45 <BTC-Mining>	Large deposit on my account Mircea. Technically just in, but would appreciate being able to place orders right away =P
Nov 09 17:01:50 <jurov>	in mircealand, 5k is large. Not 200 :D
Nov 09 17:03:28 <BTC-Mining>	Right, I forgot about that
Nov 09 17:04:09 <BTC-Mining>	You're almost right on for 5k vs 200 too
Nov 09 17:04:29 <BTC-Mining>	I'm assuming 5k being among the large deposit based on certain large orders.
Nov 09 17:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16639 @ 0.00050449 = 8.3942 BTC [+]
Nov 09 17:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14661 @ 0.00050575 = 7.4148 BTC [+]
Nov 09 17:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	all deposits done
Nov 09 17:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	you know, i've been processing for everyone if pinged, no relation to size.
Nov 09 17:06:09 <jurov>	ofc. just wanted to joke about the "large" adjective
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Nov 09 17:27:30 <BTC-Mining>	Thank you for processing so fast
Nov 09 17:29:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15802 @ 0.00050575 = 7.9919 BTC [+]
Nov 09 17:29:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13908 @ 0.0005063 = 7.0416 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 17:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26959 @ 0.00049903 = 13.4533 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 17:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol what!
Nov 09 17:59:13 <midnightmagic>	nothing!
Nov 09 17:59:18 <midnightmagic>	:)
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Nov 09 18:02:19 *	kakobrekla has kicked m0f0 from #bitcoin-assets (Ladies and Gentlemen - may I present: King Op)
Nov 09 18:02:34 <kakobrekla>	hm, pathetic ban msg
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Nov 09 18:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha katz is getting better and better
Nov 09 18:41:41 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, Diablo-D3 this maybe interests you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1327078#msg1327078
Nov 09 18:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	(last quote)
Nov 09 18:43:22 <rdponticelli_>	Are you still arguing?
Nov 09 18:43:52 <kakobrekla>	the only one arguing now is pretteymuch katz
Nov 09 18:44:13 <kakobrekla>	the rest just want to slap some reality into him or smth
Nov 09 18:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.0004988 = 4.6139 BTC [-]
Nov 09 18:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli_ the great advantage of hiring women to do your dirty work
Nov 09 18:46:22 <mircea_popescu>	i watched disgrace in the meanwhile.
Nov 09 18:50:37 *	rdponticelli_ is now known as rdponticelli
Nov 09 18:52:51 <rdponticelli>	Everybody is just wasting time
Nov 09 18:53:55 <mircea_popescu>	as oposed to what ?
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Nov 09 18:57:00 <rdponticelli>	Just agree that you'll ever disagree
Nov 09 18:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	who ?
Nov 09 18:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	dawg, what do i care what joel k. nobody does or doesn't do ? does he own something ? is he somebody ? why'd i give a fuck exactly ?
Nov 09 18:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	he and the girl can argue till one drops dead as far as i'm concerned
Nov 09 18:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	what the forum is for in the end, innit ?
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Nov 09 19:12:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6606 @ 0.00050097 = 3.3094 BTC [+]
Nov 09 19:15:04 *	smickles wonders if that was mircea_popescu encouraging the death of his employee
Nov 09 19:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 09 19:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	im in an obamacare-free state
Nov 09 19:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	so i can indulge, yet.
Nov 09 19:15:46 <smickles>	:D
Nov 09 19:19:29 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. night all!
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Nov 09 19:45:47 <Diablo-D3>	[06:41:41] <mircea_popescu> but anyway, Diablo-D3 this maybe interests you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1327078#msg1327078
Nov 09 19:46:13 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Nov 09 19:46:20 <Diablo-D3>	er, heh he left
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Nov 09 20:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9715 @ 0.00049849 = 4.8428 BTC [-]
Nov 09 20:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32985 @ 0.00049767 = 16.4156 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 20:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00049919 = 4.9919 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 20:38:56 <rg>	Diablo-D3; thanks for sealing that sale for me the other day
Nov 09 20:39:16 <rg>	i dont think we would've got it without you
Nov 09 20:39:31 <Diablo-D3>	*shrug* he'll learn his lesson soon
Nov 09 20:39:39 <Diablo-D3>	the guy who owns that place hates open source
Nov 09 20:39:45 <Diablo-D3>	so fuck him
Nov 09 20:40:05 <rg>	lol
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Nov 09 20:40:25 <rg>	that company that exclusively runs linux on everything
Nov 09 20:40:35 <rg>	must HATE opensource
Nov 09 20:41:29 <Diablo-D3>	rg: why else would he purposely kill cia.vc?
Nov 09 20:41:35 <Diablo-D3>	dont tell me "it was an accident"
Nov 09 20:41:46 <Diablo-D3>	hes the fucking CEO of the company, why the fuck is he touching ANY of the machines
Nov 09 20:41:58 <Diablo-D3>	he did it on purpose to spite nenolod and the rest of the community
Nov 09 20:41:59 <rg>	hes not even added so i dunno
Nov 09 20:42:33 <rg>	hes neteng, not ops
Nov 09 20:43:36 <Diablo-D3>	rg: and just think
Nov 09 20:43:40 <Diablo-D3>	he could have gotten a LOT of sales
Nov 09 20:43:44 <Diablo-D3>	but he talked his way out of that.
Nov 09 20:44:34 <rg>	considering i confirmed 117 vps today to be created
Nov 09 20:44:38 <rg>	i dont think its a real problem
Nov 09 20:44:53 <rg>	but i did only see 8 dedis get provisioned
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Nov 09 20:45:11 <m0f0>	you like cawk
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Nov 09 20:45:18 <m0f0>	cawk likers
Nov 09 20:45:40 <rg>	wow, i guess you showed us.
Nov 09 20:45:59 <m0f0>	I did
Nov 09 20:46:01 <m0f0>	didn't I?
Nov 09 20:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5815 @ 0.00049767 = 2.894 BTC [-]
Nov 09 20:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2935 @ 0.00049746 = 1.46 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 20:57:40 <Diablo-D3>	rg: yeah, I was aiming towards a hundred dedis
Nov 09 20:57:43 <Diablo-D3>	vpses are nothing
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Nov 09 20:58:01 *	kakobrekla has kicked m0f0 from #bitcoin-assets (bye)
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Nov 09 21:04:16 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
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Nov 09 21:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11699 @ 0.00049746 = 5.8198 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 22:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16062 @ 0.00049677 = 7.9791 BTC [-]
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Nov 09 23:06:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20307 @ 0.00049801 = 10.1131 BTC [+]
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Nov 09 23:22:56 <smickles>	thestringpuller: Oh
Nov 09 23:24:51 <smickles>	hmm
Nov 09 23:25:01 <smickles>	01:59 -!- mode/#bitcoin-assets [+b m0f0!*@*] by kakobrekla
Nov 09 23:25:12 <smickles>	what if i renick to m0f0?
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Nov 09 23:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 406 @ 0.00049677 = 0.2017 BTC [-]
Nov 09 23:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00049675 = 17.2372 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 00:53:47 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobrekla :)
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Nov 10 00:55:19 <SupaDupa>	CHUGITA CHUGITA!
Nov 10 00:55:20 <SupaDupa>	CHUGITA CHUGITA!
Nov 10 00:55:20 <SupaDupa>	CHUGITA CHUGITA!
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Nov 10 00:55:38 <SupaDupa>	THAT BIG DUMB MEANIE!!
Nov 10 00:55:45 <SupaDupa>	BOO HOO HOO HOO!
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Nov 10 01:14:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8152 @ 0.00049603 = 4.0436 BTC [-]
Nov 10 01:14:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36298 @ 0.00049566 = 17.9915 BTC [-]
Nov 10 01:40:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22112 @ 0.00049648 = 10.9782 BTC [+]
Nov 10 01:40:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1654 @ 0.00049566 = 0.8198 BTC [-]
Nov 10 01:40:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16034 @ 0.00049532 = 7.942 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 02:05:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.0004979 = 19.1194 BTC [+]
Nov 10 02:05:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.00049801 = 0.3735 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 02:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00049744 = 3.6313 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 02:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9379 @ 0.00049532 = 4.6456 BTC [-]
Nov 10 02:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12471 @ 0.00049525 = 6.1763 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 03:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33500 @ 0.00049744 = 16.6642 BTC [+]
Nov 10 03:47:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00049564 = 13.0106 BTC [-]
Nov 10 03:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00049525 = 4.8782 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 04:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22866 @ 0.00049525 = 11.3244 BTC [-]
Nov 10 04:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12834 @ 0.00049522 = 6.3557 BTC [-]
Nov 10 04:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00049591 = 2.5291 BTC [+]
Nov 10 04:38:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37600 @ 0.00049634 = 18.6624 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 04:50:18 <mircea_popescu>	The charity Childline says a girl born in South Africa is more likely to be raped in her lifetime than learn to read.
Nov 10 04:56:38 <EskimoBob>	Guardian had a good article about charities. Their main goal is not to fix the problems but to spread panic so they can get more and more money. And this was not about some small 1 day projects.
Nov 10 04:57:26 <EskimoBob>	this money is wasted on all sorts of bs and make the fuckers rich who run the charity. "What about children..." scams work every time
Nov 10 04:58:15 *	luke-jr_ is now known as Luke-Jr
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Nov 10 05:04:09 <EskimoBob>	I bet, you old pervert mircea_popescu were, searching for negro rape porn but ran in to a SA charity article ... lol
Nov 10 05:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5696 @ 0.00049522 = 2.8208 BTC [-]
Nov 10 05:04:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00049513 = 8.8876 BTC [-]
Nov 10 05:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2254 @ 0.00049492 = 1.1155 BTC [-]
Nov 10 05:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob the chartiy thing is pretty well known
Nov 10 05:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	they don't exist to do their stated job, they exist to pay the salaries of those involved.
Nov 10 05:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	much like... you know, government.
Nov 10 05:08:17 <EskimoBob>	I can not find this article but it was also talking about how kids are now days scared of grownups and how things are gone so bad that people do not even help kids on the street because they can be later charged for who knows what. "protect children" charities have huge role on this
Nov 10 05:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	i remember reading something like that.
Nov 10 05:09:10 <EskimoBob>	actually the comment for this article where really informative. Some of the stories, damn
Nov 10 05:09:24 <mircea_popescu>	i know a couple of different people who left the uk after the 2003 law requiring men "obtain positive agreement at all stages of intercourse" or some such bs
Nov 10 05:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	and these are people worth well in the 10s of millions.
Nov 10 05:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's all one huge orb of stupidity around sex.
Nov 10 05:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	in 2012, STILL the boogaboo.
Nov 10 05:13:18 <EskimoBob>	there was this one guy telling teh story how a he was on the playground with his kid and someone else kid gut stuck and nobody helped her because of possible sexual assault charges for "touching her"... I mean WTF! All the dad where standing around and did NOTHING. All scared shitless
Nov 10 05:14:17 <EskimoBob>	so they had to get women as witnesses to even help that kid
Nov 10 05:14:32 <EskimoBob>	wtf! And this is UK, USA etc
Nov 10 05:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	not etc.
Nov 10 05:15:19 <EskimoBob>	I have kids and reading this shit was brr.... really strange
Nov 10 05:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	just the us and it's 51st state
Nov 10 05:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	i don't have kids, but i do find it ridiculous.
Nov 10 05:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's all this self feeding stupidity, kids these days believe about 1/3 of the general population is gay, cause that's what they get shown on tv and is implied in school
Nov 10 05:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	male gays are still the 3% they always were. lesbians still the half percent.
Nov 10 05:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt people actually sexually interested in children are one in ten thousand, but the general consensus seems to be "over 100%"
Nov 10 05:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, off to some meetings. later.
Nov 10 05:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00049634 = 0.3474 BTC [+]
Nov 10 05:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00049708 = 4.9708 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 06:22:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28256 @ 0.00049708 = 14.0455 BTC [+]
Nov 10 06:22:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4644 @ 0.00049692 = 2.3077 BTC [-]
Nov 10 06:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32450 @ 0.000497 = 16.1277 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 07:13:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.000497 = 8.7224 BTC [+]
Nov 10 07:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26969 @ 0.00049692 = 13.4014 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 07:38:06 *	kakobrekla sets ban on SupaDupa!*@*
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Nov 10 07:38:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10814 @ 0.00049692 = 5.3737 BTC [-]
Nov 10 07:38:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1609 @ 0.00049595 = 0.798 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 08:03:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22374 @ 0.00049595 = 11.0964 BTC [-]
Nov 10 08:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8026 @ 0.00049565 = 3.9781 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 08:15:37 <kakobrekla>	http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5796122_460s_v1.jpg
Nov 10 08:28:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5061 @ 0.00049744 = 2.5175 BTC [+]
Nov 10 08:53:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49724 @ 0.00049565 = 24.6457 BTC [-]
Nov 10 08:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3826 @ 0.00049558 = 1.8961 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 09:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24031 @ 0.00049558 = 11.9093 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 09:44:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14201 @ 0.00049695 = 7.0572 BTC [+]
Nov 10 09:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6039 @ 0.00049744 = 3.004 BTC [+]
Nov 10 09:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21648 @ 0.00049801 = 10.7809 BTC [+]
Nov 10 09:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2612 @ 0.00049807 = 1.301 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 10:10:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16593 @ 0.00049558 = 8.2232 BTC [-]
Nov 10 10:10:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.000495 = 7.7715 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 10:35:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21953 @ 0.00049572 = 10.8825 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 11:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.000495 = 8.2665 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 11:25:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18697 @ 0.00049572 = 9.2685 BTC [+]
Nov 10 11:25:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12003 @ 0.00049807 = 5.9783 BTC [+]
Nov 10 11:50:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31550 @ 0.00049807 = 15.7141 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 12:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.000495 = 4.3065 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 12:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.000495 = 4.4055 BTC [-]
Nov 10 12:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36046 @ 0.00049492 = 17.8399 BTC [-]
Nov 10 12:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3254 @ 0.00049488 = 1.6103 BTC [-]
Nov 10 12:41:33 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 10 12:41:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.78503, Best ask: 10.84993, Bid-ask spread: 0.06490, Last trade: 10.84995, 24 hour volume: 14456.43976931, 24 hour low: 10.75000, 24 hour high: 10.95899, 24 hour vwap: 10.84713
Nov 10 12:41:37 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 10 12:41:38 <gribble>	10.84
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Nov 10 13:06:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7690 @ 0.00049488 = 3.8056 BTC [-]
Nov 10 13:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12960 @ 0.00049466 = 6.4108 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 13:31:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00049466 = 2.3496 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 13:57:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00049466 = 10.1653 BTC [-]
Nov 10 14:22:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4313 @ 0.00049466 = 2.1335 BTC [-]
Nov 10 14:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23376 @ 0.00049461 = 11.562 BTC [-]
Nov 10 14:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9685 @ 0.0004946 = 4.7902 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 14:41:54 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... what's new ?
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Nov 10 14:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24265 @ 0.0004946 = 12.0015 BTC [-]
Nov 10 14:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7035 @ 0.00049446 = 3.4785 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 15:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19690 @ 0.00049614 = 9.769 BTC [+]
Nov 10 15:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4660 @ 0.00049446 = 2.3042 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 15:37:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3205 @ 0.00049446 = 1.5847 BTC [-]
Nov 10 15:37:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33234 @ 0.00049392 = 16.4149 BTC [-]
Nov 10 15:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10361 @ 0.00049387 = 5.117 BTC [-]
Nov 10 16:03:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2821 @ 0.00049807 = 1.4051 BTC [+]
Nov 10 16:03:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19679 @ 0.00049919 = 9.8236 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 16:13:29 <jurov>	yup, earned 5 BTC for drawing :)
Nov 10 16:17:30 <dub>	link?
Nov 10 16:17:37 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122881.20
Nov 10 16:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	haha wd.
Nov 10 16:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	some people just have all the winning.
Nov 10 16:19:24 <jurov>	guess having kakobrekla as contestant added some inspiration :P
Nov 10 16:19:46 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Nov 10 16:21:08 <jurov>	;;gettrust kakobrekla
Nov 10 16:21:09 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user jurov to user kakobrekla: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=jurov&dest=kakobrekla
Nov 10 16:21:20 <jurov>	not -10 anymore? good :)
Nov 10 16:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol you two.
Nov 10 16:21:57 <kakobrekla>	oh no afaik its still there.
Nov 10 16:22:45 <jurov>	;;unrate kakobrekla
Nov 10 16:22:46 <gribble>	Successfully removed your rating for kakobrekla.
Nov 10 16:22:57 <jurov>	not worth the fuss. fuck the fsa.
Nov 10 16:23:11 <kakobrekla>	;;unrate jurov
Nov 10 16:23:12 <gribble>	Successfully removed your rating for jurov.
Nov 10 16:23:15 <kakobrekla>	smart man.
Nov 10 16:24:06 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, augusto croppo wants to know what mpoe-pr's credentials are.
Nov 10 16:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	i guess he doesn't see signatures or something.
Nov 10 16:25:26 <smickles>	augusto c may not accept text on a screen as credentials
Nov 10 16:25:40 <kakobrekla>	ctrl+p
Nov 10 16:25:42 <mircea_popescu>	o i see
Nov 10 16:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 10 16:25:50 <jurov>	yesterday we just burned 2 hours together with smickles to get me loan... ended it all up by scanned doc with shopped signatures
Nov 10 16:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	what ?!
Nov 10 16:26:09 <jurov>	cause lender does not know anything bout gpg
Nov 10 16:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha WHAT ?
Nov 10 16:26:24 <smickles>	yeah, it was awesome, in a way
Nov 10 16:26:30 <mircea_popescu>	fill me n
Nov 10 16:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	in*
Nov 10 16:27:40 <smickles>	well, a contract was written up. I expected it to be double signed with pgp sigs, but they ended up printing it and using physical sigs
Nov 10 16:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 10 16:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00049387 = 1.8767 BTC [-]
Nov 10 16:28:26 <mircea_popescu>	what interest if it's notsecret ?
Nov 10 16:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	also, somewhat unrelatedly, proposed scammer tag : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134777535061.jpg
Nov 10 16:28:59 <smickles>	you'd have to ask jurov, i'm the third party in that thing
Nov 10 16:29:00 <jurov>	it's public, lemme dig the thread...
Nov 10 16:29:14 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122156.msg1327143#msg1327143
Nov 10 16:30:27 <mircea_popescu>	.3% day ? 2.x a week ?
Nov 10 16:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	SCAM OMG
Nov 10 16:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	everyone knows this is invested in pirate.
Nov 10 16:31:27 <jurov>	well, apparently this is around market standard lending rate nao.
Nov 10 16:31:38 <mircea_popescu>	Topic: §§§ Bitcoin Lending Thread - Currently 0 BTC available @ 9% per month  (Read 190 times)
Nov 10 16:31:40 <smickles>	I should start a market competitor for these loans, i could just cash-advance on a credit card, charge a little bit on top and slaughter these rates
Nov 10 16:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	right. this is funny cause the mpbor is 9%
Nov 10 16:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the market is alligning.
Nov 10 16:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	i really wouldn't be doing that smickles.
Nov 10 16:32:27 <smickles>	yeah, i'm not going to
Nov 10 16:32:31 <smickles>	but the potential is there
Nov 10 16:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	not really. the cost of underwriting these loans far exceeds any benefit.
Nov 10 16:33:21 <mircea_popescu>	you won't find a credit officer working for less than 100s of BTC PER LOAN.
Nov 10 16:34:00 <smickles>	and from the lendee's perspective, if i really needed a btc loan, at these rates, a cash advance on a cc to buy btc is one of at least 5 things i would look into b/f a direct btc loan
Nov 10 16:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	right,.
Nov 10 16:34:53 <mircea_popescu>	loans will exist as a market after behemoths a la s.dice/s.mpoe etc are fully floated and held by 1000s of people.
Nov 10 16:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	then things like buyouts etc will make sense financially, both as size and as risk.
Nov 10 16:35:23 <jurov>	i'm maxed out my bank+creditcard already.. and it does not accept s.mpoe as collateral
Nov 10 16:35:53 <smickles>	jurov: I hope you know that I meant no personal slight there :)
Nov 10 16:36:18 <jurov>	wat? i did not notice any :)
Nov 10 16:37:24 <jurov>	i considered non-bank loan but these whores ask more than 9% a month anyway
Nov 10 16:40:24 <jurov>	o mircea, you actually know some credit officer working for more than 100s of BTC PER LOAN?
Nov 10 16:41:42 <jurov>	not that i want more nao, but someday later
Nov 10 16:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	you don't take my meaning.
Nov 10 16:42:47 <mircea_popescu>	the credit officer is the person working for the lender that says yes or no to an application.
Nov 10 16:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	if they consider 100 applications in one month you owe them say 50`000 btc.
Nov 10 16:43:05 <EskimoBob>	borrowing btc at those rates is flat out stupid.
Nov 10 16:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob for sure it only makes sense if you're doing btc stuff.
Nov 10 16:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	(ie, you are using the loan denomination to eat your btc-collapse risks)
Nov 10 16:43:56 <EskimoBob>	actually borrowing anything at rates like that is absurd, unless this "stuff" has a massive inflation
Nov 10 16:44:03 <smickles>	jeebus, my market maker bot is at 92k in size, and I'm not even done
Nov 10 16:46:13 <jurov>	you mean LOC or BTC?
Nov 10 16:46:37 <smickles>	LOC?
Nov 10 16:46:41 <jurov>	lines of code
Nov 10 16:46:50 <smickles>	92k file size
Nov 10 16:47:40 <smickles>	i would've said it in LOC, but it's across multiple files, so it'd not be worth it to add them up
Nov 10 16:48:56 <smickles>	@.@ so many TODOs
Nov 10 16:49:17 <jurov>	well, my quasi-scalper has 40k, and it uses coinbr lib elsewhere. and was not even profitable
Nov 10 16:49:43 <jurov>	just very useful to test and find mpex bugs :P
Nov 10 16:50:58 <smickles>	clearly, you had too few k. that's why it wasn't profitable ;P
Nov 10 16:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	and was not even profitable << heh
Nov 10 16:52:03 <mircea_popescu>	didn't you get a multi-trillion options position at some point in a db desync ?
Nov 10 16:52:09 <jurov>	hehe... s.mpoe was hard to scalp, too tight spread.. and options were possible.. if you waited days
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Nov 10 16:52:42 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, sadly the attempt to slip withdrawal past you failed :/
Nov 10 16:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 10 16:52:58 <mircea_popescu>	duh, trade db was liek "orly?!"
Nov 10 16:53:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 739 @ 0.00049387 = 0.365 BTC [-]
Nov 10 16:53:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17092 @ 0.00049362 = 8.437 BTC [-]
Nov 10 16:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00049347 = 5.5269 BTC [-]
Nov 10 16:53:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2919 @ 0.0004934 = 1.4402 BTC [-]
Nov 10 16:53:53 <mircea_popescu>	BAN HIM!!! BAN HIM WITH FIRE!!!
Nov 10 16:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	and i was like...
Nov 10 16:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	no, he's a good man
Nov 10 16:54:16 <jurov>	lmao
Nov 10 16:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	but hey, it did the same thing to smickles at some point
Nov 10 16:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	i think 2-3 months in a row was like
Nov 10 16:54:27 <smickles>	I'm consistantly baffled at the fact that things which seem so simple from a human perspective, are actually fucking complicated
Nov 10 16:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	"smickles you say ?! MOAR LIEK SCAMKES!!! BAN HJIM!!!!"
Nov 10 16:54:48 <smickles>	heh
Nov 10 16:55:28 *	smickles is now known as SCAMKES
Nov 10 16:55:45 <SCAMKES>	:o
Nov 10 16:55:59 <SCAMKES>	this nick is thrilling
Nov 10 16:56:08 *	SCAMKES is now known as smickles
Nov 10 16:56:22 *	smickles couldn't handle it
Nov 10 16:57:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 10 17:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13870 @ 0.00049919 = 6.9238 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52850 @ 0.0004998 = 26.4144 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30350 @ 0.00050161 = 15.2239 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00050174 = 19.9693 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00050175 = 9.2322 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00050231 = 3.6166 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36950 @ 0.0005028 = 18.5785 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25956 @ 0.0005035 = 13.0688 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47200 @ 0.00050409 = 23.793 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25820 @ 0.0005042 = 13.0184 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9945 @ 0.00050438 = 5.0161 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39107 @ 0.00050604 = 19.7897 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19242 @ 0.0005063 = 9.7422 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00050669 = 16.1127 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11626 @ 0.00050673 = 5.8912 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10074 @ 0.00050683 = 5.1058 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00050707 = 3.5241 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10272 @ 0.00050727 = 5.2107 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:05:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44900 @ 0.00050739 = 22.7818 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:05:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25350 @ 0.00050753 = 12.8659 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49100 @ 0.00050759 = 24.9227 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10393 @ 0.00050795 = 5.2791 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.0005085 = 14.2889 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00050853 = 14.7982 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	party!
Nov 10 17:05:08 <jurov>	uh oh :)
Nov 10 17:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE
Nov 10 17:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	this is actually getting to look kinda like the real deal huh
Nov 10 17:08:16 <jurov>	evidently there's someone thinking like me, but who hasn't such loan problems :)
Nov 10 17:09:11 <jurov>	*without such problems, i mean
Nov 10 17:09:25 <kakobrekla>	its all a bubble, sell before bitb comes out i tell you!
Nov 10 17:10:39 <PsychoticBoy>	I love bubbles
Nov 10 17:11:19 <jurov>	bitb upon us? oh no
Nov 10 17:12:00 *	Garr255 is now known as TuxBlackEdo`
Nov 10 17:12:10 *	TuxBlackEdo` is now known as Garr255
Nov 10 17:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	what's bitb ?
Nov 10 17:15:10 <jurov>	1. go to mpex front page
Nov 10 17:15:18 <jurov>	2. scroll down to the bottom
Nov 10 17:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	lmao omfg owned
Nov 10 17:15:32 *	mircea_popescu cries
Nov 10 17:16:23 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : reload.
Nov 10 17:20:44 <mod6>	haha, you didn't know that was still down there 'eh?
Nov 10 17:20:48 <jurov>	K. prefix? what wicked financial instrument are you concocting now?
Nov 10 17:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 10 17:23:33 <mircea_popescu>	the kumbaya
Nov 10 17:23:40 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 i had forgotten lol/
Nov 10 17:23:48 <mod6>	:]
Nov 10 17:23:57 <mod6>	oh... i didn't see K. in this list:
Nov 10 17:23:57 <mod6>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpsics-in-detail/
Nov 10 17:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	Reward-Drop ETA: 2012-11-29 00:03:55 (2 weeks, 4 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes)
Nov 10 17:24:10 <mod6>	where did you see that jurov
Nov 10 17:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	oh cause it's made up
Nov 10 17:24:33 <mod6>	oh :)
Nov 10 17:24:35 <jurov>	mircea, not kolchoz ?
Nov 10 17:24:47 <mod6>	i bought a new lappy, just setting it up... bbiab
Nov 10 17:29:54 <jurov>	indeed i suspect mircea turned communist and will start kolkhoz soon :D
Nov 10 17:29:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31820 @ 0.00051095 = 16.2584 BTC [+]
Nov 10 17:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	ya. CCCP LIVES
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Nov 10 17:55:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00051 = 9.2055 BTC [-]
Nov 10 18:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00051 = 11.8065 BTC [-]
Nov 10 18:25:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00051003 = 6.9109 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 18:43:58 <jurov>	i'm currently thinking on improving new order screen of coinbr, you won't believe what evil idea i just came up with
Nov 10 18:44:33 <jurov>	user won't have to copy/paste thhe price, he just clicks into graph similar to live.coinbr.com
Nov 10 18:46:14 <jurov>	imagine that. no messing with these forms, just click into the graph to generate order of given price and quantity
Nov 10 18:46:42 <jurov>	i'll make ipad app for that :DDDD
Nov 10 18:47:22 <jurov>	either i'm insane or brilliant, not sure
Nov 10 18:50:02 <jurov>	"oh my cat ran over the ipad" lol
Nov 10 18:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37415 @ 0.00051015 = 19.0873 BTC [+]
Nov 10 18:50:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4385 @ 0.00051 = 2.2364 BTC [-]
Nov 10 18:52:22 <jurov>	"Great MPEx Panic Of 2013 Caused By Cat Stepping On IPad"
Nov 10 18:55:15 <jurov>	better to go sleep, bye
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Nov 10 18:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty good
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Nov 10 19:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00051 = 15.351 BTC [-]
Nov 10 19:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49960 @ 0.00051 = 25.4796 BTC [-]
Nov 10 19:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1005 @ 0.00050974 = 0.5123 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 19:41:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3201 @ 0.00050974 = 1.6317 BTC [-]
Nov 10 19:41:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00050913 = 4.2258 BTC [-]
Nov 10 19:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49703 @ 0.0005091 = 25.3038 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 20:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1672 @ 0.0005091 = 0.8512 BTC [-]
Nov 10 20:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00050745 = 9.0326 BTC [-]
Nov 10 20:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18296 @ 0.00050661 = 9.2689 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 20:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00050873 = 5.3417 BTC [+]
Nov 10 20:32:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00050661 = 2.1784 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 20:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00050908 = 8.7562 BTC [+]
Nov 10 20:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6554 @ 0.00050661 = 3.3203 BTC [-]
Nov 10 20:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10596 @ 0.00050597 = 5.3613 BTC [-]
Nov 10 21:23:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.00050597 = 10.1447 BTC [-]
Nov 10 21:23:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00050456 = 5.3736 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 21:44:19 <thestringpuller>	;;last smickles
Nov 10 21:44:19 <gribble>	(last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message (1 more message)
Nov 10 21:45:21 <rdponticelli>	;;seen smickles
Nov 10 21:45:22 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: * smickles couldn't handle it
Nov 10 21:45:44 <rdponticelli>	;)
Nov 10 21:46:31 <thestringpuller>	smickles: utc 400 I will be ready tonight I promise
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Nov 10 21:49:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17424 @ 0.00050937 = 8.8753 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 22:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32183 @ 0.00050704 = 16.3181 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 22:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3248 @ 0.00050704 = 1.6469 BTC [-]
Nov 10 22:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18452 @ 0.00050657 = 9.3472 BTC [-]
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Nov 10 23:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00050937 = 4.9918 BTC [+]
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Nov 10 23:18:53 <smickles>	thestringpuller: baby is in bed now
Nov 10 23:30:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00050657 = 3.9512 BTC [-]
Nov 10 23:31:40 <Chaang-Noi>	smickles why did you message me the other day?
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Nov 10 23:53:49 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: accident
Nov 10 23:54:10 <smickles>	sorry for the confusion
Nov 10 23:55:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1248 @ 0.00050657 = 0.6322 BTC [-]
Nov 11 00:10:55 <Chaang-Noi>	np, thought it was odd:)
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Nov 11 00:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16052 @ 0.00050561 = 8.1161 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 00:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24601 @ 0.00050913 = 12.5251 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 01:11:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1647 @ 0.00050913 = 0.8385 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 01:36:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00050456 = 2.8003 BTC [-]
Nov 11 01:36:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00050425 = 6.3031 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 02:01:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00050425 = 6.1266 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 02:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26912 @ 0.00050425 = 13.5704 BTC [-]
Nov 11 02:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15438 @ 0.00050402 = 7.7811 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 02:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34962 @ 0.00050402 = 17.6215 BTC [-]
Nov 11 02:52:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19170 @ 0.000504 = 9.6617 BTC [-]
Nov 11 03:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7415 @ 0.00050462 = 3.7418 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 03:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9680 @ 0.000504 = 4.8787 BTC [-]
Nov 11 03:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00050331 = 9.6636 BTC [-]
Nov 11 03:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6883 @ 0.00050329 = 3.4641 BTC [-]
Nov 11 04:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1317 @ 0.00050329 = 0.6628 BTC [-]
Nov 11 04:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00050224 = 19.5874 BTC [-]
Nov 11 04:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5609 @ 0.00050166 = 2.8138 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 04:29:21 <BTC-Mining>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101012.msg1329023
Nov 11 04:30:31 <BTC-Mining>	KRAKEN default
Nov 11 04:31:28 <BTC-Mining>	For whoever may feel concerned, even if GLBSE still hasn't disclosed who had shares in the passthrough.
Nov 11 04:32:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00050166 = 5.6186 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 04:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 742 @ 0.00050462 = 0.3744 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 05:05:28 <jurov>	anyone knows what harnett meant by "vulture" capital? or is that more widely used term?
Nov 11 05:07:39 <jurov>	ahh A vulture fund is a private equity or hedge fund that invests in debt issued by an entity that is considered to be very weak or dying
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Nov 11 05:07:59 <BTC-Mining>	I'll assume that meant capital to eat his own insured PPT carcass which he had to pay...
Nov 11 05:08:17 <BTC-Mining>	And that most went that way.
Nov 11 05:08:46 <BTC-Mining>	Along with about a quarter on TYGRR-P and another in mining assets
Nov 11 05:09:54 <BTC-Mining>	It's all GLBSE assets and bad ones. Nothing anyone could not have done better with 5 sec of thinking.
Nov 11 05:10:39 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: its a play on venture capital
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Nov 11 05:11:02 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: vulture capitalists are the people who invest in companies to pick over the bones
Nov 11 05:11:20 <BTC-Mining>	From now on I'll assume his forum avatar is representative.
Nov 11 05:11:24 <jurov>	well... but vulture investing makes no sense here, does it? irl there are usually assets to be salvaged, but btc ventures tend to evaporate completely
Nov 11 05:11:39 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: yes, it doesnt make sense here
Nov 11 05:11:46 <Diablo-D3>	theres no physical real companies
Nov 11 05:13:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 258 @ 0.000505 = 0.1303 BTC [+]
Nov 11 05:13:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18396 @ 0.00050385 = 9.2688 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 05:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25504 @ 0.00050385 = 12.8502 BTC [-]
Nov 11 05:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00050355 = 5.2621 BTC [-]
Nov 11 05:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2591 @ 0.00050166 = 1.2998 BTC [-]
Nov 11 05:38:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1555 @ 0.00050146 = 0.7798 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 06:03:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13945 @ 0.00050146 = 6.9929 BTC [-]
Nov 11 06:03:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00050134 = 9.4252 BTC [-]
Nov 11 06:03:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15805 @ 0.00050108 = 7.9196 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 06:29:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11845 @ 0.00050108 = 5.9353 BTC [-]
Nov 11 06:29:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5158 @ 0.00050039 = 2.581 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 06:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell btc-mining would you be so kind as to post in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.220
Nov 11 06:46:55 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Nov 11 06:47:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell btc-mining i think it is your obligation to your investors to help prosecute the scammer.
Nov 11 06:47:09 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Nov 11 06:55:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48397 @ 0.00050039 = 24.2174 BTC [-]
Nov 11 06:55:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86 @ 0.0005002 = 0.043 BTC [-]
Nov 11 07:20:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22764 @ 0.0005002 = 11.3866 BTC [-]
Nov 11 07:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17349 @ 0.00049979 = 8.6709 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 07:45:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.00049979 = 12.7197 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 08:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00050175 = 19.6686 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 08:23:45 <kakobrekla>	anyone sploke to casascius recently?
Nov 11 08:25:27 <kakobrekla>	i cant reach the guy, all the mails are bouncing back goddammit
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Nov 11 08:35:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00050175 = 13.1459 BTC [+]
Nov 11 09:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00050605 = 12.6006 BTC [+]
Nov 11 09:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00050715 = 4.6151 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 09:26:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00050469 = 3.0786 BTC [-]
Nov 11 09:52:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13743 @ 0.0005021 = 6.9004 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 10:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.0005021 = 8.5357 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 10:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21807 @ 0.0005021 = 10.9493 BTC [-]
Nov 11 10:42:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4651 @ 0.00049979 = 2.3245 BTC [-]
Nov 11 10:43:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8242 @ 0.00049862 = 4.1096 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 11:01:18 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i think he's active on forum
Nov 11 11:01:45 <kakobrekla>	sent him a pm as well
Nov 11 11:01:51 <kakobrekla>	but i guess he didnt get the notice on the email
Nov 11 11:01:52 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 11 11:08:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37158 @ 0.00049862 = 18.5277 BTC [-]
Nov 11 11:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11426 @ 0.00049858 = 5.6968 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 11:20:49 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Nov 11 11:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0004934 / 0.00050333 / 0.00051095 (2193849 shares, 1,104.24 BTC), 30day: 0.00030871 / 0.00044148 / 0.00051095 (75251680 shares, 33,222.70 BTC)
Nov 11 11:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 11 11:22:14 <gribble>	10.81
Nov 11 11:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00050217 = 15.6677 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 11:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3674 @ 0.00049858 = 1.8318 BTC [-]
Nov 11 11:58:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3526 @ 0.00049857 = 1.758 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 12:24:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00049857 = 8.2763 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 12:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8640 @ 0.00050217 = 4.3387 BTC [+]
Nov 11 12:49:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00050264 = 14.1744 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 13:03:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/
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Nov 11 13:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8160 @ 0.00050286 = 4.1033 BTC [+]
Nov 11 13:15:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15574 @ 0.00049857 = 7.7647 BTC [-]
Nov 11 13:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166 @ 0.00049792 = 0.0827 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 13:18:37 <kakobrekla>	i was block by a paid content filter
Nov 11 13:18:41 <kakobrekla>	blocked*
Nov 11 13:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	aww.
Nov 11 13:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	you get 5 free reads a week.
Nov 11 13:19:43 <kakobrekla>	hm
Nov 11 13:19:58 <kakobrekla>	i wonder how hard your protection is
Nov 11 13:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	hehe. so try it.
Nov 11 13:20:40 <kakobrekla>	i will.
Nov 11 13:20:59 <jurov>	i use http://tools.rosinstrument.com/cgi-proxy.htm to read trilema (with disabled JS ofc)
Nov 11 13:22:12 <kakobrekla>	did you pay the buck?
Nov 11 13:22:36 <jurov>	no
Nov 11 13:22:54 <kakobrekla>	;;rate jurov -1 scammed MP out of $1
Nov 11 13:22:55 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user jurov has been recorded.
Nov 11 13:23:01 <kakobrekla>	ok jk.
Nov 11 13:23:03 <jurov>	omg
Nov 11 13:23:04 <kakobrekla>	;;unrate jurov
Nov 11 13:23:05 <gribble>	Successfully removed your rating for jurov.
Nov 11 13:23:19 <kakobrekla>	twas a fuckin joke.
Nov 11 13:24:32 <jurov>	i'll pay someday... when i decide it's necessary to support poor romanian kids
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Nov 11 13:30:35 <jurov>	mircea, how many mpoe shares you actually sold? the IPO was only 1 promile, and that was twice I think
Nov 11 13:31:31 <jurov>	now I guess it's 1-2% at most... then it's quite exaggeration to extrapolate mkt value from it
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Nov 11 13:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 11 13:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	Total shares : 1`000`000`000, of which :
Nov 11 13:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	Mircea Popescu, 971`367`807 shares,
Nov 11 13:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	Third parties 28`632`193 shares.
Nov 11 13:35:18 <mircea_popescu>	from the last statement
Nov 11 13:36:55 <jurov>	okay, so 2.8 %
Nov 11 13:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10508 @ 0.0005069 = 5.3265 BTC [+]
Nov 11 13:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	yeah,.
Nov 11 13:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand
Nov 11 13:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Nov 11 13:40:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0004934 / 0.00050372 / 0.00051095 (2175547 shares, 1,095.87 BTC), 30day: 0.00030871 / 0.00044179 / 0.00051095 (75259427 shares, 33,249.38 BTC)
Nov 11 13:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  28632193 * 0.00050372
Nov 11 13:40:47 <gribble>	14422.608258
Nov 11 13:41:01 <mircea_popescu>	why do you think 14k bitcoins aren't enough to extrapolate based on ?
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Nov 11 13:53:08 <jurov>	;;calc 1000000000*  0.0005069
Nov 11 13:53:08 <gribble>	506900
Nov 11 13:56:51 <jurov>	mircea, it's too much uncertainty... and if all major btc companies extrapolated this way i suspect we'll ended with number several times beyond btc in circulation
Nov 11 13:58:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1992 @ 0.00050181 = 0.9996 BTC [-]
Nov 11 13:59:04 <jurov>	;;calc 100000000*0.00181
Nov 11 13:59:04 <gribble>	181000
Nov 11 13:59:14 <jurov>	that's satoshidice, for example
Nov 11 13:59:28 <jurov>	silk road would be much more, etc...
Nov 11 14:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure it would be much more.
Nov 11 14:00:45 <smickles>	shouldn't we be calcing the free float market cap (or as close as we can get to it) rather than implied value?
Nov 11 14:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway : obviously the value of all items in btc will be more than the total btc.
Nov 11 14:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	jurov but i think in a world where absolutely NO OTHER measure exists or is used, this measure, flawed as it may be, is much better.
Nov 11 14:02:17 <smickles>	and, mircea_popescu, didn't you pledge to never release control of 50% the total shares during the initial offering?
Nov 11 14:02:27 <kakobrekla>	not what i heard for measuring trust mp
Nov 11 14:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	smickles nobody on mpex can release more than 50%
Nov 11 14:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla hm ?
Nov 11 14:03:05 <kakobrekla>	ah didnt you listen to katz
Nov 11 14:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	i must have missed some katz.
Nov 11 14:03:25 <smickles>	rockin' katz
Nov 11 14:03:38 <smickles>	;;lucky "rockin katz"
Nov 11 14:03:38 <gribble>	http://hub.webring.org/hub/rockinkatz
Nov 11 14:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	Giacomo Lucky Katz Casteldelmare
Nov 11 14:04:29 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a kickass mobster name
Nov 11 14:04:30 <kakobrekla>	nothing on bitcoinica yet eh?
Nov 11 14:04:30 <kakobrekla>	There were no results matching the query.
Nov 11 14:04:30 <kakobrekla>	Create the page "Katz" on this wiki!
Nov 11 14:09:41 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Nov 11 14:09:43 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 207520 | Current Difficulty: 3304356.3929903 | Next Difficulty At Block: 207647 | Next Difficulty In: 127 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 20 hours, 10 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3392979.01731214 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.68199351952
Nov 11 14:10:37 <kakobrekla>	impossibru.
Nov 11 14:12:14 <jurov>	put my whole opinion there.
Nov 11 14:12:21 <jurov>	* i've
Nov 11 14:21:34 <smickles>	Azelphur: I just made pyMPEx better … again
Nov 11 14:21:55 <smickles>	jurov: you use pympex too, don't you?
Nov 11 14:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	whatcha do ?
Nov 11 14:22:00 <Azelphur>	smickles: fun
Nov 11 14:22:28 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: added signature verification
Nov 11 14:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool
Nov 11 14:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it had it ?
Nov 11 14:22:51 *	Azelphur mesrges it in
Nov 11 14:23:05 *	smickles watched it happen live on github
Nov 11 14:23:13 <Azelphur>	:D
Nov 11 14:24:03 <smickles>	HOORAY FOR OPEN SOURCE :D
Nov 11 14:24:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00050181 = 3.9392 BTC [-]
Nov 11 14:25:06 <Azelphur>	indeed \o/
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Nov 11 14:34:03 <jurov>	yes i use pympex
Nov 11 14:36:46 <jurov>	it did not occur to me to check the signature :/ and it's true user's pubkey is used, so it's necessary
Nov 11 14:36:53 <jurov>	thanks
Nov 11 14:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	yay for open source #2.
Nov 11 14:38:38 <thestringpuller>	i didn't know you were a fan of OSS mircea_popescu
Nov 11 14:39:15 <thestringpuller>	smickles: UGH I think I'm not synched up to our timezones
Nov 11 14:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	im a fan of some parts.
Nov 11 14:40:19 <thestringpuller>	unlike steve ballmer
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Nov 11 14:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.0005 = 0.4 BTC [-]
Nov 11 14:49:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11846 @ 0.00049897 = 5.9108 BTC [-]
Nov 11 14:49:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17954 @ 0.00049792 = 8.9397 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 14:53:40 <thestringpuller>	why are a lot of the options n/a?
Nov 11 14:53:57 <smickles>	no one is selling/buying them
Nov 11 14:54:09 <thestringpuller>	:(
Nov 11 14:54:16 <smickles>	i haven't yet launched my bot
Nov 11 14:55:52 <thestringpuller>	the arbritrageur?
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Nov 11 14:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller bot got bought out.
Nov 11 14:59:12 <mircea_popescu>	was an episode earlier like 30-40k contracts were bought
Nov 11 15:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/#comment-90390
Nov 11 15:06:22 <thestringpuller>	they is gonna resell those contracts at sky high prices
Nov 11 15:07:00 <mircea_popescu>	if it goes up, maybe yea
Nov 11 15:07:17 <thestringpuller>	were they all calls that were bought?
Nov 11 15:07:18 <Lyspooner>	does mpex need funding?
Nov 11 15:10:30 <thestringpuller>	 
Nov 11 15:11:12 <smickles>	Lyspooner: you lookin' to throw some btc at MPBOR?
Nov 11 15:11:56 <smickles>	Apr 05 22:50:39 {Cusipzzz}i, for one, welcome our stable bitcoin overlords << lol, good line to end on
Nov 11 15:12:00 <Lyspooner>	i don't know.  with mpoe loaded up short calls, i can't expect mircea to not mess around with mtgox on final settlement day
Nov 11 15:12:22 <Lyspooner>	or any day, for that matter
Nov 11 15:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	haha i don't even have an acct.
Nov 11 15:14:15 <smickles>	yeah, but you broker does /jk
Nov 11 15:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 11 15:14:46 <Lyspooner>	but seriously what sort of rate can i get for my coins from mpex?
Nov 11 15:14:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00050181 = 8.1293 BTC [+]
Nov 11 15:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	MPBOR was 9% last month
Nov 11 15:15:00 <kakobrekla>	jurov, do you take direct deposits
Nov 11 15:15:04 <Lyspooner>	25% and it's a deal
Nov 11 15:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	haha well nothing stops you from trying.
Nov 11 15:15:19 <jurov>	kakobrekla, you mean the loan? of course
Nov 11 15:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	course, it'd all be for next month anyway.
Nov 11 15:15:23 <smickles>	25% sounds reasonable considering the recent losses
Nov 11 15:15:49 <Lyspooner>	more than reasonable
Nov 11 15:16:03 <Lyspooner>	sounds risky at 25%
Nov 11 15:16:07 <kakobrekla>	jurov 15 days only?
Nov 11 15:16:29 <Lyspooner>	give me some sort of bitcoin friday 25% guarantee
Nov 11 15:16:42 <smickles>	lol
Nov 11 15:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 11 15:17:20 <jurov>	kakobrekla, you want longer term?
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Nov 11 15:17:29 <Lyspooner>	or i'll just go buy a hat and some honey
Nov 11 15:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	loan it to who was looking for
Nov 11 15:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	i think jurov ?
Nov 11 15:18:02 <Lyspooner>	what's his story
Nov 11 15:18:05 <jurov>	https://btcjam.com/listings/517
Nov 11 15:18:14 <kakobrekla>	jurov if you need 100 btc i can lend it to you for a month
Nov 11 15:18:39 <jurov>	for how much? 9% ?
Nov 11 15:18:44 <smickles>	on btcjam, that %, is that the term % or a yearly %?
Nov 11 15:18:52 <jurov>	term %
Nov 11 15:18:53 <kakobrekla>	smickles i was asking myself the same
Nov 11 15:19:04 <jurov>	there's final amount shown  too
Nov 11 15:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	for anyone that still remembers april times tho... it was a really scary time to be in bitcoin.
Nov 11 15:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	lots of people were expecting to see $1
Nov 11 15:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	BTC 100.00000 @ 2.9% is that per month ?
Nov 11 15:20:02 <Lyspooner>	2011 was a scary time to be in euro
Nov 11 15:20:15 <smickles>	;;calc 1.029 ** (365/15)
Nov 11 15:20:15 <gribble>	2.00496803248
Nov 11 15:20:26 <jurov>	mircea, no , on 1st dec i am to repay 102.9
Nov 11 15:20:33 <kakobrekla>	hm, 2.9 is per 14 days or 11 that is remaining
Nov 11 15:20:43 <jurov>	see above
Nov 11 15:20:49 <kakobrekla>	a
Nov 11 15:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner or dollars
Nov 11 15:21:05 <kakobrekla>	so its like 6 per month
Nov 11 15:21:08 <kakobrekla>	or something
Nov 11 15:21:14 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Nov 11 15:21:15 <kakobrekla>	why did you offer 9
Nov 11 15:21:21 <kakobrekla>	ill take 9 over 6
Nov 11 15:21:38 <smickles>	damn jurov was that stat b/f or after our thing?
Nov 11 15:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.029 ** (15/365)
Nov 11 15:21:52 <gribble>	1.00117551737
Nov 11 15:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	smickles noob.
Nov 11 15:22:25 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you so sure we were calcing the same thing?
Nov 11 15:22:27 <jurov>	smikles, before. but i also have > 100k sell orders there and the collateral isn't counting them
Nov 11 15:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	no :D
Nov 11 15:23:34 <jurov>	sorry kakobrekla, you're right, i confused it woth the loan we did w/smickles.
Nov 11 15:25:57 <kakobrekla>	aha
Nov 11 15:25:58 <jurov>	kakobrekla, if you can accept 6% / month I'll be glad
Nov 11 15:26:22 <kakobrekla>	well ... its not terribly attractive yet not something to pass along
Nov 11 15:26:25 <kakobrekla>	50 btc if you want
Nov 11 15:26:27 <kakobrekla>	post an addy
Nov 11 15:26:49 <jurov>	1EXeDPMG5M5imDpaX5znAk3JFx36bVpWaT
Nov 11 15:26:52 <kakobrekla>	one sec
Nov 11 15:28:45 <kakobrekla>	sent
Nov 11 15:28:51 <jurov>	so that means 53BTC due on 11 December 2012?
Nov 11 15:29:00 <kakobrekla>	thats fine
Nov 11 15:29:10 <jurov>	good. thanks!
Nov 11 15:29:16 <kakobrekla>	yw
Nov 11 15:31:54 <jurov>	kakobrekla, your addy, just in case?
Nov 11 15:32:16 <kakobrekla>	here it is 1GjVtbovA6Lr8UJgPKQNgzgtMwq4NDoYsR
Nov 11 15:32:20 <kakobrekla>	but if im dead
Nov 11 15:32:30 <kakobrekla>	you are better off keeping the money
Nov 11 15:33:24 <jurov>	okay. and if fsa gets you,. i'll send it to them.
Nov 11 15:33:39 <kakobrekla>	:p
Nov 11 15:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13936 @ 0.00049792 = 6.939 BTC [-]
Nov 11 15:41:03 <jurov>	so, i just sold my 14yr old daewoo to lyspooner
Nov 11 15:41:14 <Lyspooner>	um that's not true
Nov 11 15:41:16 <jurov>	for not bad a price :DDD
Nov 11 15:41:19 <Lyspooner>	you posted it as collateral
Nov 11 15:41:46 <Lyspooner>	secured loans by unsecure cars
Nov 11 15:43:02 <jurov>	uhm, i was ging to fix slightly recessed roof tomorow... perhaps that can wait a month
Nov 11 15:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	!?
Nov 11 15:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	you srsly sold/bought a car ?
Nov 11 15:43:37 <jurov>	and that noisy exhaust... too, prolly
Nov 11 15:43:51 <jurov>	i'm just poking some fun to lyspooner
Nov 11 15:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Nov 11 15:44:08 <Lyspooner>	i don't drive cars anymore
Nov 11 15:44:17 <Lyspooner>	i drive jets
Nov 11 15:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	one day you'll graduate do driving women.
Nov 11 15:44:47 <mircea_popescu>	after that all that's left is herding cats.
Nov 11 15:46:28 <Lyspooner>	i'd like to drive a cat
Nov 11 15:46:43 <Lyspooner>	a jungle cat
Nov 11 15:47:06 <Lyspooner>	so why should you be worth more than mtgox?
Nov 11 15:47:11 <Lyspooner>	i didn't follow the numbers
Nov 11 15:47:40 <jurov>	cause mircea is exponential
Nov 11 15:47:48 <Lyspooner>	oh ok
Nov 11 15:49:52 <Lyspooner>	from BFL apparently: ""We'll notify you at least a week before your order is ready and you can send your FPGA in. We are working on a way to cross ship you the device, so you don't have any downtime. It will probably involve you sending us BTC for the amount of the device and we'll refund the BTC when we get your FPGA unit back."
Nov 11 15:50:31 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> cause mircea is exponential <<< lol phrase of the year.
Nov 11 15:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner do you even have currency exchanges in your country ? as an independent business i mean
Nov 11 15:51:39 <Lyspooner>	currency exchanges exist in my country
Nov 11 15:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	ok. do you see how one of them would compare to the stock exchange ?
Nov 11 15:53:40 <Lyspooner>	i could compare their earnings, yes
Nov 11 15:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	srsly ?!
Nov 11 15:54:54 <Lyspooner>	um yes
Nov 11 15:55:36 <Lyspooner>	they have earnings in some sort of real number
Nov 11 15:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	o lol
Nov 11 15:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	no but i mean, exchange house makes x, stock exchange makes y
Nov 11 15:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	x > y
Nov 11 15:55:57 <Lyspooner>	oh ok
Nov 11 15:56:05 <smickles>	MPEx earnings: sqrt(-1)
Nov 11 15:56:28 <thestringpuller>	i
Nov 11 15:56:30 <Lyspooner>	but mtgox:currency exchange::mpex:stock exchange isn't a fair analogy
Nov 11 15:57:30 <mircea_popescu>	indeed, because mpex also has the mpoe wing.
Nov 11 15:57:34 <Lyspooner>	ha
Nov 11 15:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	;)
Nov 11 15:57:53 <Lyspooner>	well if it is a fair analogy then it has been a fair analogy for the past two years
Nov 11 15:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	and also because irl currency exchanges are in a much better relation to the respective govts
Nov 11 15:57:59 <mircea_popescu>	than mtgox is or ever will be
Nov 11 15:58:31 <mircea_popescu>	for instance, irl an exchanger is bled try in taxes and reg costs, but also protected, because you need a license to do it.
Nov 11 15:58:34 <Lyspooner>	mtgox merchant solutions is a nice component of their business
Nov 11 15:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	in bitcoin, there's no license.
Nov 11 15:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	i agree, they may diversify into other areas
Nov 11 15:59:58 <smickles>	DRY DRY DRY
Nov 11 16:00:08 <smickles>	^a contradiction
Nov 11 16:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	understand, it's not like i have a deathwish for mtgox or anything. they're doing something valuable and so on.
Nov 11 16:00:24 <Lyspooner>	ok, but for the same reasons there may be many stock exchanges to compete against mpex
Nov 11 16:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	not really. you need a lot more credibility to make a mpex than to trade usd for btc or back
Nov 11 16:00:58 <Lyspooner>	is that why you have such great PR work on the forums
Nov 11 16:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	and a lot more competence.
Nov 11 16:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	haha what forums ?
Nov 11 16:01:15 <Lyspooner>	THE forum
Nov 11 16:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Nov 11 16:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	tell you what,nefario had great pr on THE forum
Nov 11 16:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	look how well that worked for him.
Nov 11 16:01:58 <thestringpuller>	nefario was incompetent
Nov 11 16:02:10 <thestringpuller>	and a coward
Nov 11 16:02:27 <thestringpuller>	and probably a snitch
Nov 11 16:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.0004989 = 13.2707 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:04:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2509 @ 0.00050181 = 1.259 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00050715 = 0.8368 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19241 @ 0.0005077 = 9.7687 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:05:15 <thestringpuller>	43% of canadians would rather have bacon than sex
Nov 11 16:05:19 <thestringpuller>	any canadians here?
Nov 11 16:06:17 <kakobrekla>	what percentage would rather just have sex with bacon?
Nov 11 16:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Nov 11 16:07:11 <smickles>	thestringpuller: that is likely going to be 90% or more for 'mericans
Nov 11 16:13:25 <jurov>	more useful is trading passwords for candy
Nov 11 16:14:47 <jurov>	if btctalk enabled instant candy transfers, it would melt down
Nov 11 16:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like candy.
Nov 11 16:20:29 <dub>	moosecock eh?
Nov 11 16:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21471 @ 0.0005077 = 10.9008 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29529 @ 0.00050784 = 14.996 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:21:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13971 @ 0.00050784 = 7.095 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:21:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14120 @ 0.00050914 = 7.1891 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00050928 = 11.1532 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:21:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1009 @ 0.00050937 = 0.514 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17167 @ 0.00050937 = 8.7444 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00050938 = 12.0978 BTC [+]
Nov 11 16:22:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00050962 = 17.3526 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 16:27:28 <kakobrekla>	o hey Garr255 hows the ponzi doing
Nov 11 16:28:48 <jurov>	lmao russians do call mining pool kolkhozy :D https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14044.0
Nov 11 16:29:18 <jurov>	the K.KBRL plot thickens
Nov 11 16:33:12 <Garr255>	hey kakobrekla, well its not a "ponzi" see the latest post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123654.msg1329823#msg1329823
Nov 11 16:33:36 <Garr255>	but the game is going well, off to a bit of a slow start though
Nov 11 16:36:07 <kakobrekla>	i dont see how this could possibly end well
Nov 11 16:37:25 <Garr255>	kakobrekla, for some people it won't, for others it will. that's how these games work.
Nov 11 16:37:48 <Garr255>	definitely don't ever treat a game like this as an "investment"
Nov 11 16:37:56 <kakobrekla>	add "for you" at the end of first statement
Nov 11 16:38:30 <kakobrekla>	not gonna stand in the way just a word of warning
Nov 11 16:38:50 <jurov>	Garr255, you can incorporate mpex bonds in the game.. for fun and profit
Nov 11 16:39:25 <kakobrekla>	"fun and profit" seems like something is missing in that phrase... aa i got it "fun, profit and milk"
Nov 11 16:40:56 <jurov>	or at least satoshidice. or both
Nov 11 16:42:34 <Garr255>	That would be cool, but I think it'll be best to keep it as straight forward as possible.
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Nov 11 16:43:57 <kakobrekla>	A glass of milk, straight.
Nov 11 16:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44450 @ 0.00051 = 22.6695 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 16:54:43 <thestringpuller>	BTC is always deflating...
Nov 11 16:57:19 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin friday was a failure it seems...
Nov 11 17:06:26 <BTC-Mining>	How so?
Nov 11 17:12:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12509 @ 0.00051058 = 6.3868 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 17:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40650 @ 0.00051 = 20.7315 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 17:45:13 <smickles>	BTC-Mining: 20:16 < Lyspooner> give me some sort of bitcoin friday 25% guarantee <<< that's how so ;)
Nov 11 17:45:42 <smickles>	*note, lyspooner didn't get the 25%
Nov 11 17:48:21 <BTC-Mining>	and I didn't get my discounted by 90% bitcoins for Bitcoin Friday. What a letdown, way to blow up my hopes.
Nov 11 17:49:03 <BTC-Mining>	I shall thus call it a major failure to provide me Bitcoins en masse.
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Nov 11 18:03:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8946 @ 0.00051058 = 4.5676 BTC [+]
Nov 11 18:03:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1269 @ 0.00051115 = 0.6486 BTC [+]
Nov 11 18:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47954 @ 0.00051 = 24.4565 BTC [-]
Nov 11 18:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	ohohoh this is juicy
Nov 11 18:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1329998#msg1329998
Nov 11 18:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	so joel katz was actually trying to con rather than just being dumb as rocks ?!
Nov 11 18:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	teh surprise.
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Nov 11 18:54:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00051 = 17.595 BTC [-]
Nov 11 19:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27479 @ 0.00051 = 14.0143 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 19:45:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21621 @ 0.00050918 = 11.009 BTC [-]
Nov 11 19:45:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10572 @ 0.00051007 = 5.3925 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 20:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22602 @ 0.00050886 = 11.5013 BTC [-]
Nov 11 20:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4098 @ 0.00050662 = 2.0761 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 20:36:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15504 @ 0.00050662 = 7.8546 BTC [-]
Nov 11 20:40:06 <smickles>	https://github.com/jurov/MPExAgent/blob/master/agent.py#L152
Nov 11 20:40:07 <smickles>	lol
Nov 11 20:41:24 <smickles>	oh, jurov maybe you can answer this for me:
Nov 11 20:41:49 <smickles>	on STATJSONs, in the TradeHistory section,
Nov 11 20:42:31 <smickles>	if the order was a sell, does Price reflect the yeild b/f or after the fee?
Nov 11 20:46:55 <smickles>	although
Nov 11 20:47:08 <smickles>	it must be b/f b/c it's the price, not the yeild
Nov 11 20:47:11 *	smickles derp
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Nov 11 20:54:18 <kakobrekla>	o heya usagi, how is it, feeling better? :)
Nov 11 20:56:25 <dub>	did it have a spot of myxpmatosis?
Nov 11 20:56:50 <usagi>	I feel better now
Nov 11 20:56:56 <dub>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Rabbit_with_Myxomatosis_1%28RLH%29.jpg/665px-Rabbit_with_Myxomatosis_1%28RLH%29.jpg mmmm
Nov 11 20:57:48 <usagi>	the neighborhood dog has that
Nov 11 21:01:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00050403 = 15.0201 BTC [-]
Nov 11 21:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.0005035 = 8.2826 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 21:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17746 @ 0.00050593 = 8.9782 BTC [+]
Nov 11 21:27:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44393 @ 0.00050849 = 22.5734 BTC [+]
Nov 11 21:27:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3324 @ 0.00050956 = 1.6938 BTC [+]
Nov 11 21:29:22 <smickles>	;;calc 50956/50181
Nov 11 21:29:23 <gribble>	1.01544409239
Nov 11 21:30:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1992 @ 0.00050394 = 1.0038 BTC [-]
Nov 11 21:41:49 <asa1024>	hi usagi
Nov 11 21:56:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21508 @ 0.00050394 = 10.8387 BTC [-]
Nov 11 21:56:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17442 @ 0.0005035 = 8.782 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 22:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00050596 = 17.0003 BTC [+]
Nov 11 22:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7376 @ 0.00050956 = 3.7585 BTC [+]
Nov 11 22:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 856 @ 0.00051007 = 0.4366 BTC [+]
Nov 11 22:21:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19418 @ 0.00051102 = 9.923 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 22:46:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13732 @ 0.00051102 = 7.0173 BTC [+]
Nov 11 22:46:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11318 @ 0.00051115 = 5.7852 BTC [+]
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Nov 11 22:54:56 <smickles>	the thing is up to 108k now
Nov 11 22:55:37 <smickles>	;;calc 108000 / 80
Nov 11 22:55:38 <gribble>	1350
Nov 11 23:01:20 <BTC-Mining>	?
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Nov 11 23:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00050964 = 19.4173 BTC [-]
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Nov 11 23:36:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8908 @ 0.0005035 = 4.4852 BTC [-]
Nov 11 23:36:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28942 @ 0.00050339 = 14.5691 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 00:02:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2108 @ 0.00050339 = 1.0611 BTC [-]
Nov 12 00:02:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14188 @ 0.00050297 = 7.1361 BTC [-]
Nov 12 00:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00050281 = 13.1736 BTC [-]
Nov 12 00:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17523 @ 0.00050272 = 8.8092 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 00:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33879 @ 0.00050368 = 17.0642 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 00:50:17 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you awake?
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Nov 12 00:50:26 <thestringpuller>	I took a nap just to be awake at 400 UTC
Nov 12 00:53:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13321 @ 0.00050368 = 6.7095 BTC [+]
Nov 12 00:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19456 @ 0.00050272 = 9.7809 BTC [-]
Nov 12 00:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3123 @ 0.00050256 = 1.5695 BTC [-]
Nov 12 01:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16054 @ 0.00050382 = 8.0883 BTC [+]
Nov 12 01:20:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7746 @ 0.00050481 = 3.9103 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 01:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4018 @ 0.00050481 = 2.0283 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 02:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22083 @ 0.00050481 = 11.1477 BTC [+]
Nov 12 02:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3813 @ 0.00050913 = 1.9413 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 02:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00050505 = 3.7879 BTC [-]
Nov 12 02:43:28 <EskimoBob>	jesus faking christ! They have released usagi from the mental hospital! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCKKKK!
Nov 12 02:44:03 <Diablo-D3>	wait, what?
Nov 12 02:44:06 <Diablo-D3>	he was in a mental hospital?
Nov 12 02:45:43 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 12 02:46:02 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: elaborate
Nov 12 02:47:17 <EskimoBob>	mmm... don't you recall that she-he had a serious meltdown?
Nov 12 02:47:32 <Diablo-D3>	no, I think I was busy with real life at the time
Nov 12 02:47:52 <Diablo-D3>	I thought usagi just ragequit the community
Nov 12 02:48:30 <dub>	http://i.imgur.com/QvDY0.jpg
Nov 12 02:49:09 <EskimoBob>	dub: is it office safe?
Nov 12 02:49:12 <Diablo-D3>	nope
Nov 12 02:49:16 <EskimoBob>	probably not.
Nov 12 02:49:17 <dub>	perfectly
Nov 12 02:49:27 <Diablo-D3>	wait, did EskimoBob imply he has a jo?!
Nov 12 02:49:28 <Diablo-D3>	*job
Nov 12 02:50:35 <EskimoBob>	sure, I fish and hunt and just enjoy my life and really shitty weather
Nov 12 02:51:09 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob doesnt have a job.
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Nov 12 02:54:07 <EskimoBob>	Depends what you mean by job. For you it's some shit you have to do so you can pay your rent and food
Nov 12 02:56:12 <EskimoBob>	fuck. why is my hose shaking
Nov 12 02:56:18 *	EskimoBob walks out to investigate
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Nov 12 03:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30686 @ 0.00050913 = 15.6232 BTC [+]
Nov 12 03:27:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.00050505 = 13.4596 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 03:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00050444 = 0.3531 BTC [-]
Nov 12 03:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.00050591 = 19.1234 BTC [+]
Nov 12 03:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2895 @ 0.00050665 = 1.4668 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 04:18:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00050439 = 10.2391 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 04:38:01 <Diablo-D3>	and EskimoBob never returned
Nov 12 04:43:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21835 @ 0.00050409 = 11.0068 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 05:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.00050256 = 10.0763 BTC [-]
Nov 12 05:34:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9965 @ 0.00050409 = 5.0233 BTC [+]
Nov 12 05:34:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8449 @ 0.00050428 = 4.2607 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 05:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23451 @ 0.00050428 = 11.8259 BTC [+]
Nov 12 05:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6999 @ 0.00050665 = 3.546 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 06:07:59 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: keep dreaming :)
Nov 12 06:09:41 <Diablo-D3>	well, you didnt
Nov 12 06:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25027 @ 0.00050256 = 12.5776 BTC [-]
Nov 12 06:25:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8273 @ 0.0005025 = 4.1572 BTC [-]
Nov 12 06:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gpg-contracts/#comment-90403 << for shits and giggles.
Nov 12 06:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11909 @ 0.00050665 = 6.0337 BTC [+]
Nov 12 06:51:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4301 @ 0.00050913 = 2.1898 BTC [+]
Nov 12 06:51:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00050964 = 0.7135 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 06:56:03 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Nov 12 06:56:19 <jurov>	afternoon
Nov 12 06:56:52 <kakobrekla>	o hey jurov
Nov 12 06:56:57 <kakobrekla>	mpoe pr is onto you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123735.0
Nov 12 06:57:01 <kakobrekla>	much worse than fsa!
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Nov 12 07:00:27 <jurov>	 ,-at least it can be easily explained... it imported +7 -1 twice :/
Nov 12 07:00:54 <kakobrekla>	heh
Nov 12 07:00:58 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Nov 12 07:01:01 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 207621 | Current Difficulty: 3304356.3929903 | Next Difficulty At Block: 207647 | Next Difficulty In: 26 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 hours, 11 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3387470.00113994 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.5152737255
Nov 12 07:07:16 <mircea_popescu>	omfg.
Nov 12 07:07:26 <mircea_popescu>	so you mean to tell me that if you imported it 1000 times you'd have 7000 ratings ?
Nov 12 07:09:15 <Diablo-D3>	wait, what?
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Nov 12 07:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00051034 = 10.6661 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 07:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20591 @ 0.00051034 = 10.5084 BTC [+]
Nov 12 07:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	your daily installment of my ramblings : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/let-us-revisit-cleveland/
Nov 12 07:54:14 <kakobrekla>	Blake is from Cleveland
Nov 12 07:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	blake who
Nov 12 07:54:31 <kakobrekla>	William Blake
Nov 12 07:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	well william blake is also dead. so was :p
Nov 12 07:54:59 <kakobrekla>	(ref: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112817/)
Nov 12 07:55:06 <kakobrekla>	yeah true that.
Nov 12 07:55:36 <kakobrekla>	brilliant move btw :p
Nov 12 07:55:39 <kakobrekla>	movie*
Nov 12 07:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	johhny dep was such a good actor
Nov 12 07:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	pity he went off the deep end
Nov 12 07:56:30 <kakobrekla>	he does a good job here
Nov 12 07:57:38 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: he did?
Nov 12 07:57:45 <Diablo-D3>	I always thought he swam back to the shallow end
Nov 12 07:58:06 <kakobrekla>	i love this part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKVVkiMIkM0
Nov 12 07:58:08 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 12 07:58:20 <Diablo-D3>	potc may be his most famous role now, but its sure as hell not a difficult role for him
Nov 12 07:58:31 <Diablo-D3>	its basically, show up for work drunk, remain drunk, and then return home, still drunk
Nov 12 07:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he did swim back, i dunno
Nov 12 07:59:09 <Diablo-D3>	... okay so, I just described the best job ever. goddamnit.
Nov 12 07:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol. j. depp owns joo
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Nov 12 08:00:38 <Diablo-D3>	my god, what would happen if him and robert downey jr, like, made a movie together
Nov 12 08:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10909 @ 0.00051034 = 5.5673 BTC [+]
Nov 12 08:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2187 @ 0.00051015 = 1.1157 BTC [-]
Nov 12 08:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26804 @ 0.00051 = 13.67 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 08:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	gay sex ?
Nov 12 08:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	besides, i think they did.
Nov 12 08:24:40 <jurov>	have you seen? http://i.imgur.com/4vXh1.png
Nov 12 08:25:48 <jurov>	if i did phonesex, i'll be calling my clients "someone lose big at sdice, buy buy buy" :P
Nov 12 08:26:38 <mircea_popescu>	o wow, 2k uhh
Nov 12 08:31:22 <EskimoBob>	BTC diff keeps crawling up and up but looks like there is no new money pouring in to push that price up
Nov 12 08:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	went up like 5% today did it
Nov 12 08:32:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21314 @ 0.00051 = 10.8701 BTC [-]
Nov 12 08:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	so what's the story with payb.tc ? i saw some vague accusations of impropriety re pirate funds or what ?
Nov 12 08:34:10 <kakobrekla>	not yet
Nov 12 08:34:12 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Nov 12 08:34:14 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 207628 | Current Difficulty: 3304356.3929903 | Next Difficulty At Block: 207647 | Next Difficulty In: 19 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3383862.79383115 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.40610852417
Nov 12 08:34:21 <EskimoBob>	probably
Nov 12 08:35:25 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i meant price went up
Nov 12 08:35:43 <kakobrekla>	ah
Nov 12 08:38:30 <EskimoBob>	it did not go up at all today.
Nov 12 08:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 12 08:39:18 <gribble>	10.87
Nov 12 08:39:19 <EskimoBob>	correction, it did
Nov 12 08:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 12 08:39:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.92779, Best ask: 11.00990, Bid-ask spread: 0.08211, Last trade: 10.92778, 24 hour volume: 33988.90687136, 24 hour low: 10.70000, 24 hour high: 11.10000, 24 hour vwap: 10.93106
Nov 12 08:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	it's a little bit up
Nov 12 08:43:19 <EskimoBob>	ppcoin looks good
Nov 12 08:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	in case anyone was wondering where they come from, https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Copywriting-Data-Processing/Professional-Quality-Web-amp-Bitcoin.html
Nov 12 08:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	India and Bangladesh
Nov 12 08:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1882 @ 0.00051 = 0.9598 BTC [-]
Nov 12 08:58:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9518 @ 0.00050668 = 4.8226 BTC [-]
Nov 12 09:23:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7655 @ 0.00050668 = 3.8786 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 09:29:21 <EskimoBob>	who mircea_popescu ?
Nov 12 09:29:35 <mircea_popescu>	need more words.
Nov 12 09:30:04 <EskimoBob>	"mircea_popescu | in case anyone was wondering where they come from," ... who are they? context is missing
Nov 12 09:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	they are the people making bs bitcoin services
Nov 12 09:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	that have not a hope in the world.
Nov 12 09:34:32 <EskimoBob>	http://www.freelancer.com/search/bitcoin/
Nov 12 09:36:34 <EskimoBob>	my favorite is the website like bitcoin that uses web browser.
Nov 12 09:37:51 <mircea_popescu>	myeah
Nov 12 09:39:56 <EskimoBob>	"you know" was missing from the description so it's still unclear wtf he actually needs :)
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Nov 12 09:49:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7699 @ 0.00051003 = 3.9267 BTC [+]
Nov 12 10:02:10 <thestringpuller>	!ticker
Nov 12 10:02:10 <assbot>	Provide ticker.
Nov 12 10:02:43 <kakobrekla>	you gotta tell the bot
Nov 12 10:02:48 <kakobrekla>	!ticker btc is now around 11
Nov 12 10:02:50 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Nov 12 10:02:59 <thestringpuller>	!ticker O.C110T
Nov 12 10:03:00 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Nov 12 10:03:22 <thestringpuller>	!ticker O.C110USDT
Nov 12 10:03:23 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Nov 12 10:03:36 <kakobrekla>	i dont think those come in the json
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Nov 12 10:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16270 @ 0.00051014 = 8.3 BTC [+]
Nov 12 10:14:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00051092 = 8.4557 BTC [+]
Nov 12 10:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22079 @ 0.00051115 = 11.2857 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 10:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker O.BTCUSDC110T
Nov 12 10:24:27 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Nov 12 10:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	duh
Nov 12 10:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker O.BTCUSD.C110T
Nov 12 10:24:44 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.20397018 / 0.20474144 / 0.23775058 (6000 shares, 1,228.45 BTC)
Nov 12 10:25:05 <kakobrekla>	oh assbot you are so smart.
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Nov 12 10:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16896 @ 0.00051115 = 8.6364 BTC [+]
Nov 12 10:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1354 @ 0.00051152 = 0.6926 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 11:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26751 @ 0.00051003 = 13.6438 BTC [-]
Nov 12 11:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4649 @ 0.0005067 = 2.3556 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 11:27:29 <thestringpuller>	jurov can we write call/put contracts from coinbr?
Nov 12 11:30:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14557 @ 0.00051152 = 7.4462 BTC [+]
Nov 12 11:37:36 <jurov>	thestringpuller, no. only buy/sell them.
Nov 12 11:37:52 <jurov>	but i can do it manually for you
Nov 12 11:40:15 <thestringpuller>	i was gonna sell puts
Nov 12 11:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	hey everyone : fiction contest. buncha prizes, 120 btc or so prize fund.
Nov 12 11:41:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/
Nov 12 11:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	go sharpen your pens.
Nov 12 11:43:24 <jurov>	thestringpuller, do you want to do something now? i'll be leaving for a hour or two
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Nov 12 11:47:06 <thestringpuller>	talk tonight
Nov 12 11:47:17 <jurov>	ok, later
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Nov 12 11:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3747 @ 0.00051152 = 1.9167 BTC [+]
Nov 12 11:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12453 @ 0.00051155 = 6.3703 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 12:10:49 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: Interesting
Nov 12 12:11:09 <rdponticelli>	Would it be the first literary contest in bitcoinland?
Nov 12 12:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	possibly so
Nov 12 12:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	i used to do that a lot on trilema, but obviously for romanian.
Nov 12 12:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	so now we try in English :)
Nov 12 12:12:09 <rdponticelli>	I may even work on something...
Nov 12 12:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	well good luck to you then!
Nov 12 12:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	the more entries the bigger the 5th prize anyway.
Nov 12 12:13:00 <rdponticelli>	Well, if I make something it will be the first time I'll try to write something directly in english...
Nov 12 12:13:31 <rdponticelli>	Let's see if something comes out...
Nov 12 12:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Nov 12 12:17:48 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: can it take place in a post apocalyptic world?
Nov 12 12:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	sure
Nov 12 12:19:20 <thestringpuller>	what is due date?
Nov 12 12:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	innit in the article ?
Nov 12 12:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	also, someone be kind enough to put it on reddit/stumbleupon/facebook w/e
Nov 12 12:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00051122 = 6.5947 BTC [-]
Nov 12 12:28:52 <thestringpuller>	the signal and the noise
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Nov 12 12:29:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: if bitcoin is always under deflationary pressure won't one make money eventually by holding onto the coins?
Nov 12 12:30:00 <mircea_popescu>	how ?
Nov 12 12:30:56 <thestringpuller>	this year it is worth 10 next year it is 19
Nov 12 12:33:45 <mircea_popescu>	10 and 19 whats?
Nov 12 12:33:58 <thestringpuller>	any currentcy pairing
Nov 12 12:34:19 <thestringpuller>	that isnt experiencing agrressive inflation
Nov 12 12:36:05 <thestringpuller>	i guess i am asking wont over time, your coin will be worth more than when you acquired it
Nov 12 12:43:02 <mircea_popescu>	"worth"
Nov 12 12:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	in what sense ? in bitcoin your bitcoin will be worth just as much
Nov 12 12:43:48 <thestringpuller>	in another currency
Nov 12 12:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	why is another currency relevant to you ?
Nov 12 12:44:38 <thestringpuller>	cause most people make sales in regards to its price in another currency
Nov 12 12:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13793 @ 0.00051122 = 7.0513 BTC [-]
Nov 12 12:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1133 @ 0.00050749 = 0.575 BTC [-]
Nov 12 12:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	pff.
Nov 12 12:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	are you even aware that in the past 10 years the dollar significantly appreciated in zimbabwe dollars ?
Nov 12 12:46:25 <mircea_popescu>	what do you care about the zimbabwe dollar. makes no difference.
Nov 12 12:47:34 <thestringpuller>	i dont but other people so
Nov 12 12:47:36 <thestringpuller>	do*
Nov 12 12:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Nov 12 12:48:02 <thestringpuller>	even you illustrated mpoe's equity in terms of usd
Nov 12 12:48:58 <smickles>	thestringpuller: well, i was, but I was reading a book
Nov 12 12:50:13 <thestringpuller>	smickles tonight then mono-poly
Nov 12 12:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	i did illustrate it in terms of usd, but mostly for the novelty value
Nov 12 12:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, btc inflation is huge still.
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Nov 12 12:53:30 <thestringpuller>	elaborate
Nov 12 12:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	you're aware that every hour 300 new btc are minted on average
Nov 12 12:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 300 * 24 * 365 / 10000000
Nov 12 12:54:10 <gribble>	0.2628
Nov 12 12:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	26% a year.
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Nov 12 12:55:41 <thestringpuller>	but at somepoint that will stoo
Nov 12 12:55:43 <thestringpuller>	stop
Nov 12 12:58:30 <mircea_popescu>	and at some point nobody will care about "other currencies"
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Nov 12 13:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10517 @ 0.00050749 = 5.3373 BTC [-]
Nov 12 13:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18779 @ 0.00050693 = 9.5196 BTC [-]
Nov 12 13:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21858 @ 0.0005067 = 11.0754 BTC [-]
Nov 12 13:13:05 <thestringpuller>	or bitcoin fails a dies miserably
Nov 12 13:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	neah.
Nov 12 13:14:42 <mircea_popescu>	the entire world will crumble to dust, bitcoin will still be here.
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Nov 12 13:21:06 <dub>	woappcoin
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Nov 12 13:28:48 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/132nws/short_story_contest_prize_up_to_100_btc/
Nov 12 13:28:53 <smickles>	;D
Nov 12 13:28:54 <mircea_popescu>	eee
Nov 12 13:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	plz to redditvote!
Nov 12 13:30:17 <thestringpuller>	no
Nov 12 13:30:19 <dub>	theres a Terracoin now?
Nov 12 13:30:30 <thestringpuller>	you have to earn my upvote
Nov 12 13:30:36 <dub>	is that a chain where you constantly involve yourself in scams
Nov 12 13:30:50 <dub>	no wait that would be DeadTerracoin
Nov 12 13:32:29 <smickles>	hehe, i even made a post in that forum
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Nov 12 13:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13043 @ 0.0005067 = 6.6089 BTC [-]
Nov 12 13:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3988 @ 0.00050668 = 2.0206 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 13:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol evil.
Nov 12 13:40:20 <jurov>	folks, the argument that "bitcoin is appreciating, nobody will spend" it is being refuted every day before your very eyes
Nov 12 13:41:23 <smickles>	I anticipate receiving my incorporation papers this week
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Nov 12 13:42:03 <smickles>	if anyone else want's to get on my client list right-off-the-bat, now is the time to start the discussion
Nov 12 13:42:19 <dub>	wat foar?
Nov 12 13:42:34 <smickles>	'cause after I get them, i'm launching the website and doing some advertising to fill in any gaps
Nov 12 13:42:43 <smickles>	dub: accounting and related services
Nov 12 13:43:29 <jurov>	smickles, books auditing too?
Nov 12 13:43:48 <smickles>	i may even go so low as tax prep, if you entertain me. jurov i can do non-public auditing legally
Nov 12 13:43:52 <smickles>	I'm not a CPA
Nov 12 13:44:01 <smickles>	(yet.. but it'll be awhile)
Nov 12 13:44:22 <jurov>	but i'll want someday nice gold plaque "audited by smicklez"
Nov 12 13:44:33 <smickles>	once i'm a cpa in a few years, I can audit public companies
Nov 12 13:45:00 <smickles>	jurov: I'll be sure it's gold to, part of the audit process
Nov 12 13:45:03 <smickles>	;)
Nov 12 13:46:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 12 13:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoinold.
Nov 12 13:47:11 <smickles>	well, yeah, CPA licensing take a minimum of 2 years in most places
Nov 12 13:47:21 <smickles>	in 'merica
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Nov 12 14:01:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18889 @ 0.00050668 = 9.5707 BTC [-]
Nov 12 14:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10411 @ 0.0005065 = 5.2732 BTC [-]
Nov 12 14:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1331319#msg1331319 lmao this is priceless
Nov 12 14:24:23 <EskimoBob>	wtf is redditvote?
Nov 12 14:25:06 <mircea_popescu>	when you vote on reddit
Nov 12 14:25:12 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: so get the thread started :)
Nov 12 14:25:28 <EskimoBob>	reddit? aaaa... vomit!
Nov 12 14:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/132nws/short_story_contest_prize_up_to_100_btc/
Nov 12 14:25:33 <EskimoBob>	I do not like reddit
Nov 12 14:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok then
Nov 12 14:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.0005065 = 13.2703 BTC [-]
Nov 12 14:26:30 <EskimoBob>	it's like a pool of vomit. Lots of regurgitate crap
Nov 12 14:27:28 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: but this thread idea is not that bad. In those hard times we have now, people need a way to let it all out and say what they think. :)
Nov 12 14:28:39 <EskimoBob>	I think your alter ego, that foamy PR cunt, will get her imaginary ass handed to her on a rusty platter
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Nov 12 14:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	um
Nov 12 14:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	what is this about ?
Nov 12 14:32:19 <BTC-Mining>	She's awfully arrogant, insulting, etc. She's like some kind of rabid animal. That she's right on many things doesn't matter. A rabid animal ain't nice to approach.
Nov 12 14:33:51 <kakobrekla>	still far better than 95% of the forum idiots
Nov 12 14:34:31 <BTC-Mining>	I'd personally prefer a condescending tone if she believes someone is acting stupid. Not that aggressive tone. Insults never get your point across. Just makes the opposite side that much stubborn.
Nov 12 14:35:10 <BTC-Mining>	I just find it counterproductive but eh.
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Nov 12 14:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	haha rabid pr
Nov 12 14:37:10 <BTC-Mining>	Would be a nice nick to use...
Nov 12 14:37:32 <BTC-Mining>	"Shreds the competition. Hire the services of Rabid PR."
Nov 12 14:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	is this about something in particular ? or what thread ? or wtf are we discussing ?
Nov 12 14:39:12 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 12 14:39:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.98000, Best ask: 10.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 10.98000, 24 hour volume: 39263.00452062, 24 hour low: 10.70000, 24 hour high: 11.18000, 24 hour vwap: 10.97339
Nov 12 14:39:16 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 12 14:39:18 <gribble>	10.92
Nov 12 14:39:33 <smickles>	ooooh, we poked out above the 30 day sma for a short time
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Nov 12 14:49:36 <thestringpuller>	smickles tonight then mono-poly?
Nov 12 14:50:13 <kakobrekla>	mono-poly? is smickles playing with himself?
Nov 12 14:51:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14722 @ 0.0005065 = 7.4567 BTC [-]
Nov 12 14:51:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00050639 = 11.5457 BTC [-]
Nov 12 14:51:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7378 @ 0.0005061 = 3.734 BTC [-]
Nov 12 14:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	"Prohibition was essentially a religious movement backed by the Methodists, Baptists, Congregationalists, Scandinavian Lutherans and other evangelical churches."
Nov 12 14:57:38 <dub>	if its a what do bitcointalk users think about $subject discussion, who gives a fuck
Nov 12 14:57:48 <dub>	oh hey, scrolling down helps
Nov 12 14:58:25 <dub>	that was re: mpoe-pr
Nov 12 14:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Nov 12 14:59:08 <dub>	98% of retards agree..
Nov 12 14:59:18 <smickles>	thestringpuller: same time?
Nov 12 15:01:13 <thestringpuller>	400 utc
Nov 12 15:01:33 <smickles>	"scandinavian lutherans", in 'merica? what, like, on vacation? ;)
Nov 12 15:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	no, on immigration.
Nov 12 15:02:43 <smickles>	.py time.mktime(time.gmtime())
Nov 12 15:03:07 <smickles>	oh, no more funbot? or was that a diff. chan.?
Nov 12 15:04:16 <smickles>	1352779200
Nov 12 15:07:14 <smickles>	5~/g 16
Nov 12 15:07:17 <smickles>	er
Nov 12 15:13:09 <EskimoBob>	I am going to do something really stupid now
Nov 12 15:13:46 <EskimoBob>	I am going to spend about 1 h in front of the idiot-tube (aka TV)
Nov 12 15:14:08 <kakobrekla>	more like idiot-panel these days
Nov 12 15:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.0005061 = 17.6123 BTC [-]
Nov 12 15:19:04 <smickles>	ya know, that btcjam should really be setup where borrowers say what the highest rate they are willing to pay is, and lenders enter bids for the rate, that way, if a listing fills, new lenders can knock out older lenders by bidding the rate down befor the listing closes
Nov 12 15:20:09 <smickles>	or borrowers have no input on the rate, lenders bid rates, and at the end, the borrower has the choice to take it or not
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Nov 12 15:42:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11226 @ 0.00050877 = 5.7115 BTC [+]
Nov 12 15:42:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5339 @ 0.00051155 = 2.7312 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 16:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42341 @ 0.00050702 = 21.4677 BTC [-]
Nov 12 16:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13559 @ 0.000507 = 6.8744 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 16:57:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14020 @ 0.00051155 = 7.1719 BTC [+]
Nov 12 16:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26580 @ 0.00051161 = 13.5986 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 17:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35841 @ 0.000507 = 18.1714 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 17:24:44 <Atomic-Closed>	How does one get ahold of their asset issuer to avoid filing a suit?
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Nov 12 17:27:47 <BTC-Mining>	What do you mean exactly?
Nov 12 17:31:01 <Atomic-Closed>	I mean I have been trying to contact the issuer of an asset listed on GLBSE for over a month and have been ignored
Nov 12 17:31:29 <smickles>	Atomic-Closed: what would you even sue for?
Nov 12 17:31:37 <Atomic-Closed>	I have the address of the mining operation and am ready to file suit for unpayed dividends
Nov 12 17:31:55 <smickles>	i mean, it's not like you can prove you were owed dividends, is it?
Nov 12 17:32:32 <BTC-Mining>	Which asset?
Nov 12 17:32:37 <Atomic-Closed>	Bitbond
Nov 12 17:32:48 <BTC-Mining>	Ah.
Nov 12 17:33:17 <BTC-Mining>	I also issued a mining op on GLBSE.
Nov 12 17:33:24 <smickles>	Is the situation different for bitbond?
Nov 12 17:33:42 <smickles>	'cause the rest of us can't prove how many (if any) shares we had
Nov 12 17:34:14 <BTC-Mining>	I just don't see how you can pay anyone claiming to be owed anything without a proof. Claims will be much higher than what's owed.
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Nov 12 17:34:37 <Atomic-Closed>	Considering that the dividends are to be payed on a set scheduled, and statements have been made to how they will be held until the GLBSE crap is over without the input of the shareholders
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Nov 12 17:35:16 <BTC-Mining>	But the issuer don't even know who is or is not a shareholder. Taking input wouldn't even be feasible.
Nov 12 17:35:19 <Atomic-Closed>	still dosent mean I cant sue
Nov 12 17:35:49 <smickles>	Atomic-Closed: well, you can sue, but I could also sue my cat
Nov 12 17:35:59 <jurov>	if you so want to sue, sue nefario. for undue delays
Nov 12 17:36:00 <BTC-Mining>	If you don't have a proof/document that anything is owed...
Nov 12 17:36:17 <Atomic-Closed>	Im considering posting hte address of the mining farm on the forum to atleaszt get a response from the op
Nov 12 17:36:27 <Atomic-Closed>	thats by biggest issue is the non-communication
Nov 12 17:36:40 <smickles>	non-communication of no new news?
Nov 12 17:36:48 <Atomic-Closed>	I have the logs of the presale and post sale conversations
Nov 12 17:36:53 <jurov>	they will say "we're waiting for nefario". what do you do then?
Nov 12 17:37:03 <Buglouse>	smickles: You're cat would win, according to you, you are its _owner_; slaves are not able to appropriate contrancts?
Nov 12 17:37:13 <BTC-Mining>	I can talk to Bitbond's issuer... had no problem with that.
Nov 12 17:37:17 <Buglouse>	smickles: err, you would be suing yourself
Nov 12 17:37:56 <smickles>	in all seriousness, all glbse assets should be considered lost untill nefario releases the data in provable way
Nov 12 17:38:15 <BTC-Mining>	He probably didn't answer on account of you demanding to be paid?
Nov 12 17:38:29 <smickles>	yeah, demanding to be paid at this point is unreasonable
Nov 12 17:38:30 <Atomic-Closed>	So should that mean that all anonymity is null and void too?
Nov 12 17:38:58 <smickles>	Atomic-Closed: what are you expecting here? the issue can't do anything because nefario fucked them
Nov 12 17:39:04 <BTC-Mining>	It means that with anonymity, with the exchange closing, who is owed what got lost.
Nov 12 17:39:32 <Atomic-Closed>	The issuer knows that i own shares
Nov 12 17:39:35 <smickles>	and because nefario fucked the issuer, he fucked you too by proxy
Nov 12 17:39:52 <smickles>	Atomic-Closed: but without proof it would be wrong to pay you and not the others
Nov 12 17:39:55 <Atomic-Closed>	I was told my that investment was safe by the issuer
Nov 12 17:40:00 <BTC-Mining>	Imagine you're bitbond. There's people claiming to be owed X and you can't verify. You pay them. Then info is released and you realise many who claimed weren't owed anything at all to start with...
Nov 12 17:40:10 <smickles>	I know I own X shares of s2cm, but i can't pay even myself dividends
Nov 12 17:40:14 <BTC-Mining>	hmm... but were the shares on GLBSE?
Nov 12 17:40:26 <Atomic-Closed>	they were sold pre-ipo
Nov 12 17:40:36 <JWU_42>	hmm - that is a bit different
Nov 12 17:40:43 <smickles>	Atomic-Closed: did you ever have the ability to sell them?
Nov 12 17:40:43 <JWU_42>	but doesn't mean you still hold them
Nov 12 17:41:01 <BTC-Mining>	aye, but were they transfered on GLBSE or held outside of GLBSE?
Nov 12 17:41:09 <smickles>	if you ever had the ability to sell them, and don't have proof that you didn't sell them, then you are in the same position
Nov 12 17:41:33 <smickles>	it's really tough to prove a negative statement
Nov 12 17:41:37 <JWU_42>	I am in that boat with YABMC - would love to shut it down but can't at this point
Nov 12 17:41:53 <JWU_42>	need Nef to step up and do what he said
Nov 12 17:42:40 <Atomic-Closed>	Im thinking that I just need to post the information then. ITs the lack of response here that is killing me
Nov 12 17:43:17 <smickles>	I know how many shares I had, I likely know how many shares Azelphur has, and I likely know the minimum # of shares imsaguy has. but I can't pay dividends to any of us b/c we have no proof
Nov 12 17:43:22 <JWU_42>	Atomic-Closed: you own bitbond ?
Nov 12 17:43:33 <Atomic-Closed>	I own shares of it
Nov 12 17:43:33 <JWU_42>	that is amazingrando, right ?
Nov 12 17:43:33 <Azelphur>	indeed :/
Nov 12 17:43:44 <Atomic-Closed>	yes it is
Nov 12 17:43:56 <smickles>	Atomic-Closed: I think you're likely just creating usless drama
Nov 12 17:43:59 <JWU_42>	what are you wanting him to do exactly ?
Nov 12 17:44:17 <Atomic-Closed>	He stated he had a plan if nef didnt do as promised
Nov 12 17:44:20 <Atomic-Closed>	i want it exicuted
Nov 12 17:44:24 <JWU_42>	ahh
Nov 12 17:44:26 <smickles>	oh?
Nov 12 17:44:28 <JWU_42>	didn't read that
Nov 12 17:44:34 <smickles>	damn, that was stupid of him
Nov 12 17:44:40 <smickles>	what was the plan?
Nov 12 17:44:44 <Atomic-Closed>	that I dont know
Nov 12 17:45:12 <smickles>	well, that op was in seatle, right?
Nov 12 17:45:20 <Atomic-Closed>	Tacomma
Nov 12 17:45:26 <smickles>	oh yeah
Nov 12 17:45:32 <Atomic-Closed>	shared facility with Gigavps
Nov 12 17:45:33 <smickles>	and shakaru set it up
Nov 12 17:45:41 <Atomic-Closed>	yes
Nov 12 17:45:46 <smickles>	lol
Nov 12 17:45:51 <mircea_popescu>	Atomic-Closed now this is interesting
Nov 12 17:46:03 <smickles>	;;getrating shakaru-otc
Nov 12 17:46:03 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User shakaru-otc, rated since Tue Dec 20 18:32:21 2011. Cumulative rating -3, from 6 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 3 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=shakaru-otc
Nov 12 17:46:35 <smickles>	"owes community over 20000 usd"
Nov 12 17:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	bitbond was owned/operated by amazingrando.
Nov 12 17:47:35 <JWU_42>	I was not aware shakaru had anything to do with their Washington facility
Nov 12 17:47:57 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but he let shakaru set up the farm after he welched on a massive debt
Nov 12 17:48:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9822 @ 0.0005061 = 4.9709 BTC [-]
Nov 12 17:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10678 @ 0.000506 = 5.4031 BTC [-]
Nov 12 17:48:17 <Atomic-Closed>	I heard that his payement went to the repayment fund
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Nov 12 17:48:30 <mircea_popescu>	i had no idea shakaru had anything to do with it either.
Nov 12 17:48:53 <Atomic-Closed>	And is all fairness, I am being a bit harsh, but if nef runs, are we all just SOL?
Nov 12 17:48:57 <smickles>	JWU_42: shakaru told me himself, and sent me pics of it while he was still saying he'd pay me ~600 btc that he owed (still owed) me
Nov 12 17:49:03 <smickles>	*still owes
Nov 12 17:49:12 <JWU_42>	hmm
Nov 12 17:49:16 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't take his word for anything.
Nov 12 17:49:17 <smickles>	Atomic-Closed: yes
Nov 12 17:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating amazingrando
Nov 12 17:49:32 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User amazingrando, rated since Sun Jan  8 01:29:35 2012. Cumulative rating 46, from 15 total ratings. Received ratings: 15 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 11 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=amazingrando
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Nov 12 17:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	dude nobody is left ffs.
Nov 12 17:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	i am the fucking dean of age of btc finance. this is sad, i've barely been here a year.
Nov 12 17:51:06 <kakobrekla>	:DD
Nov 12 17:51:19 <JWU_42>	pump and dump
Nov 12 17:51:21 <JWU_42>	;)
Nov 12 17:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	this situation needs to seriously improve.
Nov 12 17:53:05 <Atomic-Closed>	I agree
Nov 12 17:53:34 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. so you had the investment pre-ipo and were allocated glbse shares after ipo ?
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Nov 12 17:55:18 <Atomic-Closed>	It was pre the second ipo. Or when the shares were aded
Nov 12 17:55:23 <Atomic-Closed>	added*
Nov 12 17:55:31 <Atomic-Closed>	at this point its hard to even know with no access to glbse
Nov 12 17:55:44 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. well...
Nov 12 17:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	i can see the guy's position. how can he know you didn't sell the shares on glbse
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Nov 12 17:56:11 <Atomic-Closed>	I guess your right
Nov 12 17:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	not much he can do. picked the wrong exchange, everyone's fucked.
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Nov 12 18:02:56 <thestringpuller>	How do you know the writing contest won't be a political campaign
Nov 12 18:03:08 <Atomic-Closed>	well thank you all for your input
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Nov 12 18:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller huh ?
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Nov 12 18:03:31 <thestringpuller>	people campaigning to be the best story
Nov 12 18:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	why would i care ?
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Nov 12 18:05:26 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 12 18:05:40 <thestringpuller>	competition eh?
Nov 12 18:05:45 <mod6>	sure!
Nov 12 18:05:52 <mod6>	XD
Nov 12 18:05:58 <mircea_popescu>	you got the writing bug mod6 ?
Nov 12 18:06:58 <mod6>	I read the post for sure - I think its a really interesting/worthwhile idea to get some well-thought out discussion on the matter.
Nov 12 18:08:14 <mod6>	I thought about writing something -- but I better just stick to getting BitOTTer finished
Nov 12 18:08:17 <mod6>	:)
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Nov 12 18:08:46 <mod6>	maybe i'll get a chance to write something though, we'll see.  I just got this new lappy working - its /way/ faster for running the android emulator
Nov 12 18:09:06 <mod6>	4 cores instead of 2 = zooooooom
Nov 12 18:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	hehe prolly right.
Nov 12 18:10:36 <mircea_popescu>	should give the people who didn't learn math in school a chance too
Nov 12 18:10:57 <mod6>	ahh! a two-fer! :D
Nov 12 18:12:19 <mod6>	you've had a bunch of good posts in english on trilema, so thx for that
Nov 12 18:12:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is a bully
Nov 12 18:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	haha ty.
Nov 12 18:13:01 <thestringpuller>	i bet you believe all children should have bullies :P
Nov 12 18:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46922 @ 0.000506 = 23.7425 BTC [-]
Nov 12 18:13:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8478 @ 0.00050582 = 4.2883 BTC [-]
Nov 12 18:14:45 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 12 18:14:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.08980, Best ask: 11.09000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00020, Last trade: 11.08980, 24 hour volume: 38835.80047192, 24 hour low: 10.76666, 24 hour high: 11.18000, 24 hour vwap: 10.99078
Nov 12 18:15:23 <mod6>	wow, it hit 11.18
Nov 12 18:16:13 <mircea_popescu>	mhm
Nov 12 18:18:11 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Nov 12 18:18:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0005025 / 0.0005072 / 0.00051161 (1691707 shares, 858.04 BTC), 30day: 0.0004035 / 0.00045616 / 0.00051161 (67514063 shares, 30,797.82 BTC)
Nov 12 18:18:41 <jurov>	mircea, is there any difference in exercising MKOPT and SPLIT-issued option for the issuer?
Nov 12 18:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Nov 12 18:19:21 <jurov>	so both are allocated as appropriate part of total exercises?
Nov 12 18:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	both create the same, indistinguishable instrument.
Nov 12 18:19:50 <mod6>	how's coinbr going jurov?
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Nov 12 18:29:56 <jurov>	welcome. seems you were on the wrong side of the split :P
Nov 12 18:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	haha ty! welcome to you all back into my world!
Nov 12 18:31:51 <kakobrekla>	http://www.pieterhugo.com/
Nov 12 18:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	bah im so sick fo these fuckwits.
Nov 12 18:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	IT IS VERY GOOD THAT MARGINAL COMMUNITIES GET FUCKED.
Nov 12 18:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	this is the motherfucking point of life.
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Nov 12 18:44:18 <dub>	the point of life is for the civilised world to ensure that the uncivilised never catch up?
Nov 12 18:44:48 <dub>	doesn't quite fit the 'free market' ideology
Nov 12 18:45:09 <pigeons>	"civilised" is a vague/loaded word
Nov 12 18:45:36 <dub>	its easy to infer my meaning though
Nov 12 18:45:39 <pigeons>	yes
Nov 12 18:46:01 <dub>	the countries that understand the need to recycle/manage waste
Nov 12 18:46:24 <pigeons>	there is no response to his statement
Nov 12 18:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	it's not dick's job to ensure jane "catches up"
Nov 12 18:46:40 <mircea_popescu>	fuck jane.
Nov 12 18:46:43 <pigeons>	not in caps this time
Nov 12 18:47:00 <dub>	he is ensuring that she cannot?
Nov 12 18:47:25 <mircea_popescu>	hwo so ?
Nov 12 18:49:36 <dub>	by poisoning her and rendering her environment unproductive at best, probably uninhabitable by dick's standards
Nov 12 18:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	yaya.
Nov 12 18:49:59 <dub>	it does not scale
Nov 12 18:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	the assumption underlying your evaluation is that dick = jane
Nov 12 18:50:10 <dub>	what happens when jane dies and dick has to look after his own shit
Nov 12 18:50:12 <mircea_popescu>	this is false. dick is a pretty cool guy. jane is a worthless pos.
Nov 12 18:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	dick is giving her a crumb in exchange for her scratching his back.
Nov 12 18:50:34 <dub>	no, dick is giving her a poison chalice
Nov 12 18:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	if he doesn't want the risk of breaking a nail she can do w/o the crumb.
Nov 12 18:50:50 <smickles>	i've missed something here
Nov 12 18:51:03 <mircea_popescu>	"it doesn't scale"
Nov 12 18:51:06 <mircea_popescu>	d'uh, of course it doesn't.
Nov 12 18:51:08 <mircea_popescu>	it should not.
Nov 12 18:51:23 <mircea_popescu>	not everyone belongs in a palace. most people belong in the huts, so as to have palaces. for just a few.
Nov 12 18:51:36 <smickles>	what's this fun with dick and jane? /me scrolls log
Nov 12 18:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	i r fighting the beast of collectivism.
Nov 12 18:52:31 <dub>	mircea_popescu: what happens when there are no more habitable huts
Nov 12 18:52:47 <smickles>	What are they burning plastic for?
Nov 12 18:52:50 <dub>	dick flies away in his magic rocket to another place and starts over?
Nov 12 18:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	smickles for being imbeciles, basically.
Nov 12 18:52:55 <dub>	smickles: recycling
Nov 12 18:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	dub pretty much.
Nov 12 18:53:11 <dub>	mircea_popescu: that is not a realistic end game
Nov 12 18:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	yes, it is.
Nov 12 18:53:19 <smickles>	that's not how you recycle plastic, afaik
Nov 12 18:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	if you imagine that the entire population of africa croaking tomorrow would make any difference you're dreaming.
Nov 12 18:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	smickles depends if you're from ghana.
Nov 12 18:53:54 <dub>	smickles: thats what happens to most of your countries recylcling
Nov 12 18:54:03 <smickles>	if all of africal died, i'd say that's a pretty big market opportunity
Nov 12 18:54:04 <dub>	its not just ghana
Nov 12 18:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	smickles "nice country, unfortunately inhabited"
Nov 12 18:55:06 <smickles>	who makes money by shipping all my plastic to ghana?
Nov 12 18:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	the problem really is these days, the rich/successful/smart don't flaunt it nearly enough
Nov 12 18:55:15 <smickles>	that sounds like a great racket to be in
Nov 12 18:55:21 <mircea_popescu>	the poor/stupid/failed  get the idea that they're doing pretty ok
Nov 12 18:55:22 <dub>	some contractor to your govt
Nov 12 18:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	and it's just "bad luck". or even they;'re owed something.
Nov 12 18:55:56 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's not even the case, most plastic gets buried.
Nov 12 18:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	on the spot.
Nov 12 18:56:07 <dub>	unless dick has already started on his escape plan (protip: he hasn't because he's spending all his money making war) then your end game fails
Nov 12 18:56:59 <smickles>	seems better to bury it than burn it to me
Nov 12 18:57:22 <dub>	they're burning it to extract metal
Nov 12 18:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	dub what escape, seriously ?
Nov 12 18:57:30 <dub>	mircea_popescu: the rocket of course
Nov 12 18:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	get out. when "there's" no more inhabitable huts some will be buldozed, asphalted over and re-hutted
Nov 12 18:57:59 <dub>	smickles: they've been sold the opportunity to extract metal and sell it
Nov 12 18:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	and some will be just repopulated with ex-hut dwellers beaten into submission to new hut environment.
Nov 12 18:58:15 <dub>	only the catch is they have to die and kill thier land in the process
Nov 12 18:58:33 <mircea_popescu>	and i suppose it's your fault they're being stupid dub ?
Nov 12 18:58:56 <dub>	yes in part
Nov 12 18:59:06 <dub>	I recycle my rubbish because it saves me money
Nov 12 18:59:27 <dub>	I know that its not really being recycled, not in a scalable manner
Nov 12 18:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	i recycle because, guess what, i use recyclabe materials.
Nov 12 18:59:47 <dub>	its killing children in ghana
Nov 12 18:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	i buy glass bottles. my total plastic consumption is something like a few kgs a year.
Nov 12 19:00:10 <dub>	no you recycle because you have been incentivized via your wallet
Nov 12 19:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	not at all.
Nov 12 19:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	romania is a world apart. recycling was always high here
Nov 12 19:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	and to this day there's no fines/incentives to do it.
Nov 12 19:00:34 <dub>	(I presume there is differentiated charging for recycling and common waste disposal in romania)
Nov 12 19:00:38 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Nov 12 19:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	ever since the commie times they had an efficient recycling system in place.
Nov 12 19:00:56 <kakobrekla>	we get penalites here now if we dont.
Nov 12 19:00:56 <dub>	how quaint
Nov 12 19:01:01 <dub>	kakobrekla: carrot/stick same deal
Nov 12 19:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	this is like, the 60s. way before the west found out about recycling.
Nov 12 19:01:08 <kakobrekla>	its stupud as its useless
Nov 12 19:01:41 <dub>	mircea_popescu: do you actually know where the recycling goes?
Nov 12 19:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	and in any event garbage costs are dismal, i pay 2.8 euros per month
Nov 12 19:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	dub glass to the glass factory. metal to the metal sorting/refurbishing centers. paper to teh paper factory. etc.
Nov 12 19:02:04 <dub>	irrelevant
Nov 12 19:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	plastic to ghana.
Nov 12 19:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	(literally to ghana)
Nov 12 19:02:29 <smickles>	"plastic makes it possible"
Nov 12 19:02:30 <dub>	the market provides you an incentive to spend time sorting trash
Nov 12 19:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	nope ?!
Nov 12 19:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	what incentive lol.
Nov 12 19:02:55 <dub>	2.8 EU a month
Nov 12 19:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	this is like saying the market provides me an incentive to chat with you. doth not, considering what i make it'd be hard pressed to.
Nov 12 19:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	2.8 eur a month regardless tho.
Nov 12 19:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	actually
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Nov 12 19:03:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 11.8 / 4.4
Nov 12 19:03:38 <gribble>	2.68181818182
Nov 12 19:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	2.7
Nov 12 19:04:11 <dub>	anyway, the market then takes your trash and money and the money the state gives it to quietly dispose of its shit, and shops it to the 3rd world
Nov 12 19:04:20 <smickles>	so dub who is this contractor you mentioned, and what part of the gov't actually gives them teh monies?
Nov 12 19:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	dub no srlsy, it's mostly recycled locally.
Nov 12 19:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5144 @ 0.00050628 = 2.6043 BTC [+]
Nov 12 19:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8156 @ 0.0005083 = 4.1457 BTC [+]
Nov 12 19:04:56 <dub>	smickles: some company, and the same part of govt that collects tax
Nov 12 19:05:02 <dub>	well no, but you get the idea
Nov 12 19:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	and i seriously see no problem even if all the garbage was dumped on some failed country.
Nov 12 19:05:23 <smickles>	lol, you have no details? where did you even get this info?
Nov 12 19:05:31 <dub>	mircea_popescu: well thats not normal from my understanding
Nov 12 19:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	this is what you get for sucking '; you store everyone's garbage. fuck you.
Nov 12 19:05:54 <dub>	smickles: its entirely dependant on idunno what vfuckign country you are in?
Nov 12 19:06:03 <mircea_popescu>	he's in the us lol
Nov 12 19:06:11 <pigeons>	i dump all my garbage when i fly over romania
Nov 12 19:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	;;google persnickety american shot down over romania
Nov 12 19:06:32 <gribble>	Persnickety Snark: 2009-02-08: <http://www.persnicketysnark.com/2009_02_08_archive.html>; Daring Fireball Linked List: July 2012: <http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/july>; The big soda ban and Michael Bloomberg' s struggle against vulgarity: <http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/05/big-soda-ban-michael-bloomberg-struggle>
Nov 12 19:06:32 <smickles>	dub: so all of this is speculation?
Nov 12 19:06:40 <dub>	smickles: 'that guy didnt spoonfeed me the answers' is not a defence
Nov 12 19:07:00 <smickles>	i'm not forming a defence here, am I?
Nov 12 19:07:06 <mircea_popescu>	you must be!!!
Nov 12 19:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	for there are dumbass africans who burn their plastics!!!
Nov 12 19:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	FORM A DEFENCE! GIVE A SHIT!
Nov 12 19:07:32 <smickles>	anyway, generally, when you make an assertion, you should be able to justify it
Nov 12 19:07:47 <dub>	the africans would not burn the waste if we did not give it to them for that purpose
Nov 12 19:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	o, right.
Nov 12 19:08:01 <dub>	smickles: not really
Nov 12 19:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	let's give them some wells for the purpose of jumping in ?
Nov 12 19:08:19 <dub>	its teh case here, that means its likely the case in most of the world
Nov 12 19:08:25 <pigeons>	only if we can have round the clock news of the rescue attempts
Nov 12 19:08:30 <smickles>	the africans would not burn the waste if we did not give it to them for that purpose <<< define tenuous
Nov 12 19:08:52 <mircea_popescu>	next im going to hear an argument that slavery reparations should be enacted, to repay the young africans disposed of by the older africans.
Nov 12 19:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	it was all the dutchmen's fault!!11
Nov 12 19:09:02 <dub>	smickles: they wouldnt have the waste to burn if our corporations did not provide massive amounts of it to them
Nov 12 19:09:02 <smickles>	its teh case here, that means its likely the case in most of the world <<< hasty generalization
Nov 12 19:09:22 <dub>	dude
Nov 12 19:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	dub that's ridiculous. i have caustic stuff in my house, i don't pour it in my eyes
Nov 12 19:09:28 <dub>	generalisations are all there is
Nov 12 19:09:31 <smickles>	dude, ever taken a logic class?
Nov 12 19:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	EVEN THO EVIL CORPS GAVE IT TO ME
Nov 12 19:09:51 <dub>	mircea_popescu: they've been sold recycling
Nov 12 19:10:09 <dub>	its all profit driven out of western markets
Nov 12 19:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	right!
Nov 12 19:10:17 <dub>	why the fuck else would it happen?
Nov 12 19:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	they want it, they have to work for it.
Nov 12 19:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	they don;'t want the work, they don't get the money.
Nov 12 19:10:33 <mircea_popescu>	why is this so hard to grasp ?
Nov 12 19:10:42 <dub>	well they dont really want it
Nov 12 19:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	so then let them stop.
Nov 12 19:10:55 <smickles>	didn't the wester world go thru hundreds of years of shit to get where they are now?
Nov 12 19:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is sounding like the rape trial. "well... i didn't REALLY want it"
Nov 12 19:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	smickles yes.
Nov 12 19:11:26 <dub>	take shell in nigeria
Nov 12 19:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	in fact, as recent as 100 years ago london was so covered in coal dust they had coal storms
Nov 12 19:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	apparently... they survived.
Nov 12 19:11:44 <dub>	do the villages that get poisoned want to die?
Nov 12 19:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	dub did shell get govt permits ?
Nov 12 19:12:05 <dub>	yes
Nov 12 19:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	then yes they do.
Nov 12 19:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	if they don't, elect better politicians.
Nov 12 19:12:13 <dub>	goodluck jonathan opened his arms
Nov 12 19:12:28 <dub>	sure, just need bigger guns
Nov 12 19:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	so get bigger guns.
Nov 12 19:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	which brings us round circle : this is the fucking point of life. either get the bigger gun or get good at sucking cock.
Nov 12 19:13:08 <dub>	doesnt scale
Nov 12 19:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	so you say.
Nov 12 19:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	far as i can see it scales just fine.
Nov 12 19:13:28 <dub>	the tide of shit will flow
Nov 12 19:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	yaya bs.
Nov 12 19:13:44 <mircea_popescu>	what doesn't scale is your expectation that every kid gets xmas
Nov 12 19:13:51 <dub>	I don't expect that
Nov 12 19:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	some kids die in the snow in front of my house. not all kids get xmas.
Nov 12 19:14:14 <smickles>	ya know, if you want to change the minds of smart people, you'll need to avoid logical fallacies
Nov 12 19:14:30 <smickles>	otherwise, they tend to have fun with you
Nov 12 19:14:42 <dub>	all this free market ideology is complete bullshit when the actions of a few prevent the many from even participating
Nov 12 19:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i think he just wants to unwind from the brainless zombie regurgitated crap he's bombarded with non stop in the "civilised" world.
Nov 12 19:14:51 <mircea_popescu>	dub not at all.
Nov 12 19:14:55 <dub>	smickles: smart people know these things
Nov 12 19:15:05 <dub>	I'm not trying to educate
Nov 12 19:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	no. idiots who invest in pirate and masquerade as "smart" "know" these "things"
Nov 12 19:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	where things really means idiotic nonsense.
Nov 12 19:15:50 <dub>	strawman
Nov 12 19:16:02 <smickles>	:D yay
Nov 12 19:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	would you have preferred i said "buy nefario flowers" ?
Nov 12 19:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	cause that also scales lol.
Nov 12 19:17:09 <dub>	smickles: which logical fallacies btw
Nov 12 19:17:35 <smickles>	so, it looks ly my city's plastic is either recycled locally, or burried locally
Nov 12 19:18:04 <dub>	did you grasp that its not 'plastic' they are burning?
Nov 12 19:18:33 <dub>	its e-waste contaning metals they are extracting for resale
Nov 12 19:18:40 <smickles>	well, i haven't found details about how most tucson corpo's recycle their compies yet
Nov 12 19:19:45 <dub>	also if you are going to compartmentalise this into 'the waste I personally generate' well, lol @ the convince smart people stuff
Nov 12 19:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> all this free market ideology is complete bullshit when the actions of a few prevent the many from even participating << srsly, it's the stupidity of the many that prevents them from participating.
Nov 12 19:21:08 <dub>	well again, when you have corrupt authoritarian states forcing their people to do this..
Nov 12 19:21:25 <smickles>	ug, compartmentalize? you said it was some contractor from my gov't, i'm looking for that
Nov 12 19:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	dub wait a second. ever heard of tammany hall ?
Nov 12 19:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	corruption is something of the people by the people, it's not fallen from the sky.
Nov 12 19:21:58 <dub>	sure there is stupidity but its not like jane's son *click*bele mbwamba born with cancer from the lead in the water supply can do shit
Nov 12 19:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	dub fuck him, he was born to a stupid mother.
Nov 12 19:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120119.msg1331215#msg1331215 whoa looky! that acct exists since may! and it made 6 posts which are 3.
Nov 12 19:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	whose sock ?
Nov 12 19:23:11 <dub>	well im not sure but I think the free market idea is that he can improve his lot
Nov 12 19:23:48 <mircea_popescu>	dub improve his lot yes
Nov 12 19:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	his lot = my lot no.
Nov 12 19:23:52 <smickles>	ya know, it does involve a bit of luck,
Nov 12 19:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	and your problem is that you spurn his improving his shitty lot to shitty+1
Nov 12 19:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	and you want him to improve to cool+12
Nov 12 19:24:30 <smickles>	imporvement over being a computer burner prolly doesn't look like much to us, but may look like a lot to them
Nov 12 19:24:30 <mircea_popescu>	it ain't how it works. takes generations of peopleworking dilligently.
Nov 12 19:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	takes a couple of obamas to fuck it all to hell
Nov 12 19:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	it's how it works, going down is easier than going up.
Nov 12 19:27:00 *	mircea_popescu is surprised he hasn't heard the "but it's unfair, why should you have shit and cancerous anon fuckwit not have shit!!! aren't you both people!!!"
Nov 12 19:27:21 <dub>	my view is purely selfish
Nov 12 19:27:27 <dub>	you need to manage the proles
Nov 12 19:27:50 <dub>	it costs more not to, in the long run
Nov 12 19:29:19 <smickles>	dub: what are you suggesting we do
Nov 12 19:29:29 <mircea_popescu>	heh so as usual the socialist are actually the racists.
Nov 12 19:29:35 <mircea_popescu>	dude, they have the right to manage themselves, let them.
Nov 12 19:29:39 <smickles>	well, I mean, mircea_popescu is probably in a better position to do something than I am
Nov 12 19:29:40 <dub>	be honest, put your rubbish in your local landfil and wear the environmental fallout yourself
Nov 12 19:29:56 <smickles>	um
Nov 12 19:30:04 <smickles>	isn't that what I do?
Nov 12 19:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	dub that'd just destroy land values, i'd move to their country via gentrification and force them to move to mine
Nov 12 19:30:07 <dub>	instead of exporting your problem for profit
Nov 12 19:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	isn't it easier to move the garbage than the people ?
Nov 12 19:30:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9821 @ 0.00050582 = 4.9677 BTC [-]
Nov 12 19:30:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9664 @ 0.00050575 = 4.8876 BTC [-]
Nov 12 19:30:46 <smickles>	I'm still not finding thes people who ship US compies to African countries to be melted down
Nov 12 19:31:19 <dub>	its not like they advertise this widely
Nov 12 19:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	smickles the reason you aren't is because there's no such thing. on the african side it's pretty much independent business.
Nov 12 19:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	as in, those unfortunate fucks are both more respectable and more human than the average us office drone
Nov 12 19:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	they live an independent life, out in the waste.
Nov 12 19:32:07 <smickles>	dub: there'd at least be indications of it from the gov't, b/c i doubt poor african countries pay enough to make it profitable on their own
Nov 12 19:32:35 <smickles>	a line item in a budget somewhere, associated with a statute
Nov 12 19:32:37 <dub>	where would there be indications?
Nov 12 19:32:46 <dub>	can you see the books of the waste contractors?
Nov 12 19:32:53 <smickles>	I wouldn't need to
Nov 12 19:33:09 <kakobrekla>	wait till he is cpa
Nov 12 19:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol my thoughts exactly kakobrekla
Nov 12 19:33:17 <smickles>	kakobrekla: :D
Nov 12 19:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	he's gonna find the gold my grand-grandfather hid when the turks invaded
Nov 12 19:34:50 <smickles>	maybe it's a tax writeoff for donating the computers
Nov 12 19:35:15 <smickles>	resale and donation would stop it from being classified as hazardous
Nov 12 19:35:19 <dub>	probalby, some carbon credits to boot
Nov 12 19:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol dub is jaded
Nov 12 19:35:29 <smickles>	in 'merica? not yet
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Nov 12 19:36:30 <dub>	it does like this, you pay Super Envirocorp Green Recycling LLC, your govt apys them, africa pays them, and they probably don't pay tax, perfect
Nov 12 19:36:40 <smickles>	ok, shipping computers to other countries for disposal or donation is illegal as of 1 year after those pics were taken
Nov 12 19:36:45 <smickles>	it seems
Nov 12 19:37:18 <dub>	apparently someone grew a concience
Nov 12 19:37:26 <dub>	how socialist of them
Nov 12 19:38:10 <smickles>	:( makes this last hour seem so pointless and wasteful
Nov 12 19:39:40 <dub>	really? I've been built a few $100k of internets while chatting
Nov 12 19:40:22 <smickles>	oh, sorry, you didn't spoon feed me the info, so I had to actually work at finding it
Nov 12 19:40:32 <smickles>	;)
Nov 12 19:40:46 <dub>	free market bro, gotta do the work
Nov 12 19:40:59 <smickles>	i just hope my daughter survived the neglect
Nov 12 19:41:03 <mircea_popescu>	$100k of internets ?! where is that ?
Nov 12 19:41:19 <mircea_popescu>	smickles if you find her burning computer parts you know who to send the med bills to nao.
Nov 12 19:41:23 <smickles>	naw, just kidding, her mom was taking her for a walk
Nov 12 19:41:38 <mircea_popescu>	neglecting the mom seems moar dangerous
Nov 12 19:41:41 <dub>	about 40Gbps of access network, in a farming town
Nov 12 19:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	exploitation.
Nov 12 19:42:40 <dub>	by providing faster porn to the farmer, less animals will be abused
Nov 12 19:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	you're taking advantage of their backwards farmish nature
Nov 12 19:42:58 <dub>	in my locality anyway, that animal porn will be made offshore
Nov 12 19:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	to deploy your internets in less congested and thuys cheaper area
Nov 12 19:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	grow a conscience! no more computer donations to africans and no more internets to farming towns!
Nov 12 19:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	let apple make a buck.
Nov 12 19:44:13 <dub>	they demand faster porn, the market provides
Nov 12 19:46:41 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the market demands an MPEx api call ('PROFIT|X', where X is a positive integer in satoshi) which gives me btc
Nov 12 19:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	go burn a keyboard
Nov 12 19:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	all profits are belong to ME(pex)
Nov 12 19:47:59 <smickles>	well, ~97% of them anyway
Nov 12 19:48:25 <dub>	I recycled two keyboards this week :(
Nov 12 19:48:49 <smickles>	I still have those old IBM clicky keyboards
Nov 12 19:49:25 <smickles>	let me see, it's a model M
Nov 12 19:49:28 <dub>	model-M?
Nov 12 19:49:48 <dub>	yeah, colleague near me insists on using one, annoying as hell
Nov 12 19:50:03 <dub>	DEPR NEED TO HEAR MY CLICKS
Nov 12 19:50:38 <dub>	IM A SRS ENGINEER, JUST LISTEN!
Nov 12 19:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19321 @ 0.00050575 = 9.7716 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 20:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	12 points (100% like it) 12 up votes 0 down votes
Nov 12 20:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	smickles m'boy you've got the perfect reddit submission. everyone likes it.
Nov 12 20:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21765 @ 0.00050575 = 11.0076 BTC [-]
Nov 12 20:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16685 @ 0.0005055 = 8.4343 BTC [-]
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Nov 12 20:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12576 @ 0.0005083 = 6.3924 BTC [+]
Nov 12 20:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2820 @ 0.00051161 = 1.4427 BTC [+]
Nov 12 20:46:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26932 @ 0.00051175 = 13.7825 BTC [+]
Nov 12 21:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	Certified computer forensic examiner out of Austin, Texas, lawyer Craig Ball, says that authorities can use the serial numbers off of two flash drives, said to contain the tax returns, left at a political office in Williamson County. Each computer keeps a record of all external devices plugged into them.  Considering how easy a task this is, one suspects that the authorities would have already completed it, either impl
Nov 12 21:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	icating, or not, Brown.
Nov 12 21:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	this is such bs. who told them what "all computers" do ffs
Nov 12 21:02:23 <dub>	Certified (A+, MCSE) computer exphurts
Nov 12 21:04:50 <dub>	especially lulzy are security certs
Nov 12 21:06:44 <mircea_popescu>	myah.
Nov 12 21:10:14 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: knightmb having a case built against him?
Nov 12 21:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity so they say. particularly uninformed article
Nov 12 21:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://silvervigilante.com/richest-man-in-bitcoin-realm-secret-service/
Nov 12 21:11:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24401 @ 0.00051175 = 12.4872 BTC [+]
Nov 12 21:11:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17849 @ 0.0005121 = 9.1405 BTC [+]
Nov 12 21:14:26 <smickles>	poked above the 30 day sma again
Nov 12 21:14:39 <Diablo-D3>	wow, I missed DiabloMiner's birthday
Nov 12 21:14:44 <Diablo-D3>	Date:   Sat Nov 6 11:16:17 2010 -0400
Nov 12 21:15:13 <Diablo-D3>	its now 2 years old
Nov 12 21:15:30 <dub>	the oldest turd that hasnt turned white
Nov 12 21:20:27 <mircea_popescu>	so how long before pretty much everyone who issed glbse shares says fuck it and moves on ?
Nov 12 21:20:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: some already have
Nov 12 21:20:52 <mircea_popescu>	i know, but i mean the general consensus.
Nov 12 21:22:25 <smickles>	how long has it been so far?
Nov 12 21:22:35 <smickles>	did that happen oct 2nd?
Nov 12 21:22:55 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, its been over a month
Nov 12 21:23:00 <Diablo-D3>	which like a decade in bitcoin time
Nov 12 21:23:20 <dub>	is the send nefario flowers thing happening?
Nov 12 21:24:19 <mircea_popescu>	smickles early oct is my recollection.
Nov 12 21:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	dub i hope it isn't for the reason that the idiots who'd do it lost all their money to scammers already and are facing deportation
Nov 12 21:24:56 <mircea_popescu>	to ghana.
Nov 12 21:25:04 <mircea_popescu>	any other reason fails to satisfy.
Nov 12 21:25:14 <dub>	i like it
Nov 12 21:25:37 <dub>	gotta be creepy getting flowers from a bunch of people that basically want your scalp
Nov 12 21:25:50 <dub>	its saying 'you can't hide motherfucker'
Nov 12 21:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	they don't want his scalp.
Nov 12 21:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	they don't know what the fuck they want, but it'd be something like someone telling them they're ok.
Nov 12 21:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	which is why the pr chick is getting on so many nerves, imho.
Nov 12 21:26:15 <smickles>	heh, "so how long until i can just start using this btc as my own" (from the issuer's perspective), is that what you're asking mircea_popescu ?
Nov 12 21:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	smickles well, not rly, seeing how the point of issuing was to get btc to use as their own
Nov 12 21:26:57 <mircea_popescu>	see the rsm guy for a fine illustration
Nov 12 21:27:06 <smickles>	ah
Nov 12 21:28:16 <mircea_popescu>	i was asking more along the lines of, "when will everyone be forced to put glbse shares as 0 in their books"
Nov 12 21:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	obviously prudence requires them do that already, but experience shows btc noobies absolutely never do it.
Nov 12 21:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00050693 = 6.7168 BTC [-]
Nov 12 21:49:09 <smickles>	https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B
Nov 12 21:49:14 <smickles>	just noticed this
Nov 12 21:52:32 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Nov 12 21:52:42 <Diablo-D3>	lol
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Nov 12 21:53:53 <smickles>	it's to the point where they actually have to acknowlage it and respond to it
Nov 12 21:54:19 <mod6>	haha
Nov 12 21:54:47 <smickles>	Of course, when the marijuana one got there, the answer was so full of lies it boggled the mind
Nov 12 21:55:06 <smickles>	so I expect the answer will be "no, it's illegal"
Nov 12 21:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	illegal my foot
Nov 12 21:55:35 <smickles>	followed by "there is no historical precident"
Nov 12 21:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	texas did it before
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Nov 12 21:56:35 <mod6>	yeah, texas was its own country for a period
Nov 12 21:56:37 <mod6>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas
Nov 12 21:56:59 <smickles>	and "no country has ever formed by declaring independance"
Nov 12 21:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Nov 12 21:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	ok that'd be a good one.
Nov 12 21:59:21 <mod6>	lol
Nov 12 22:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.0005121 = 11.0614 BTC [+]
Nov 12 22:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6913 @ 0.00051232 = 3.5417 BTC [+]
Nov 12 22:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24953 @ 0.00051264 = 12.7919 BTC [+]
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Nov 12 22:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15347 @ 0.00051264 = 7.8675 BTC [+]
Nov 12 22:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7226 @ 0.00051331 = 3.7092 BTC [+]
Nov 12 22:39:42 <BTC-Mining>	[21:20] <mircea_popescu> so how long before pretty much everyone who issed glbse shares says fuck it and moves on ?
Nov 12 22:40:44 <BTC-Mining>	Probably in years... I'd certainly move on but still...
Nov 12 22:41:20 <BTC-Mining>	If Nefario ever shows up in person to disclose lists, people should expect that they'll be paid.
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Nov 12 22:45:49 <BTCMining>	dammit
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Nov 12 22:46:13 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder how much money DMC has made
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Nov 12 22:48:13 <BTCMining>	By now, all assets have serious dividends accumulated would be my guess.
Nov 12 22:50:01 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, you and yochdog both owe me money
Nov 12 22:50:03 <Diablo-D3>	but cant pay =/
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Nov 12 22:51:48 <smickles>	< BTC-Mining> If Nefario ever shows up in person to disclose lists, people should expect that they'll be paid. << i'd just like to say that if nefario shows up in 50 years, in person, lists in hand, ... i'll tell him to fuck off
Nov 12 22:52:15 <BTCMining>	[22:40] <BTC-Mining> Probably in years... I'd certainly move on but still...
Nov 12 22:52:28 <BTCMining>	Probably in years may not extend to decades
Nov 12 22:52:37 <BTCMining>	But to a few years
Nov 12 22:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12371 @ 0.00051186 = 6.3322 BTC [-]
Nov 12 22:52:43 <smickles>	heh, it's just you said 'ever', it got my mind wandering
Nov 12 22:52:58 <BTCMining>	ah, well within a few years
Nov 12 22:53:28 <BTCMining>	In 50 years Nefario would be what? In his 80s?
Nov 12 22:53:30 <smickles>	also, i wouldn't be suprised if it's illegal to tell someone to fuck off in 50 years
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Nov 12 22:54:23 <smickles>	or if in 30 years i'm arrested for the precrime of telling someone to fuckoff
Nov 12 22:54:43 <Diablo-D3>	precrime? fuck
Nov 12 22:54:51 <Diablo-D3>	I should be arrested for the postcrime of that
Nov 12 22:54:58 <Diablo-D3>	over 9000 counts of telling people to fuck off
Nov 12 22:55:00 <Diablo-D3>	this year alone
Nov 12 22:58:27 <BTCMining>	precrimes... might as well make thoughts a crime... Officer reading a public announcement document on television: "All who think about our leader negatively even once will see their brain implant detonated, such thoughts as: ..."
Nov 12 22:58:46 <BTCMining>	Followed by the general population's head exploding, leaving only the leader.
Nov 12 22:59:29 <smickles>	until you got to the one about sodomising the leader
Nov 12 22:59:43 <smickles>	then you'd have noone
Nov 12 22:59:56 <smickles>	;;lucky sodomising
Nov 12 22:59:56 <gribble>	http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sodomising
Nov 12 23:00:04 <smickles>	poo
Nov 12 23:00:07 <BTCMining>	yeah, but technically, the moment someone says it, you've thought of it. It's like this.
Nov 12 23:00:14 <BTCMining>	Elephant
Nov 12 23:00:27 <BTCMining>	one should have appeared in your head.
Nov 12 23:00:33 <BTCMining>	magic
Nov 12 23:00:42 <smickles>	heh, only when you said one should appear in my head
Nov 12 23:00:52 <smickles>	until then, it was an imageless concept
Nov 12 23:01:06 *	smickles true story
Nov 12 23:01:31 <BTCMining>	Well it's still very likely that you'd immediately depict anything you hear in your head before having time to think about it.
Nov 12 23:01:41 <BTCMining>	Or if trying to not think about it...
Nov 12 23:01:41 <smickles>	indeed
Nov 12 23:02:05 <smickles>	BTCMining: ever seen visioneers?
Nov 12 23:02:12 <smickles>	a movie
Nov 12 23:02:22 <smickles>	and a talkie at that
Nov 12 23:02:59 <BTCMining>	nope
Nov 12 23:03:07 <BTCMining>	Haven't seen many movies actually
Nov 12 23:03:15 <smickles>	in a way, it's strikingly like the situation you described
Nov 12 23:03:27 <smickles>	but it's dark comedy
Nov 12 23:04:24 <smickles>	like, don't watch when you're tripping, dark comedy
Nov 12 23:05:22 <BTCMining>	Well I don't do such things, so I should be ok
Nov 12 23:05:34 <smickles>	i think the last movie i watched was 'captian america'. that seald the deal on my concepts of modern american movies
Nov 12 23:06:13 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: really? should have been iron man 1
Nov 12 23:06:18 <smickles>	BTCMining: i didn't mean to imply that you may do such things, have you never heard the phrase?
Nov 12 23:06:44 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: btw, you do realize captain america is over the top and is supposed to depict an out of control US government, right?
Nov 12 23:06:58 <Diablo-D3>	the only reason hes a good guy is because the alternative is worse
Nov 12 23:07:34 <BTCMining>	I'm not saying you implied it, just stating I should be ok eh
Nov 12 23:08:34 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: i was more concerned with how poor (i felt) the acting, filming, and directing were. The general plot wasn't too bad
Nov 12 23:08:58 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: out of the new marvelverse, iron man 1 is still the best
Nov 12 23:09:17 <Diablo-D3>	its something like iron man 1, then a tie of avengers and iron man 2, and then captain america and thor
Nov 12 23:09:40 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: the shitty part is, you have to watch all of them, and in order
Nov 12 23:09:49 <Diablo-D3>	and iron man 1 is the first one in the series
Nov 12 23:09:59 <Diablo-D3>	so you start of with one of the best movies ever made
Nov 12 23:10:03 <Diablo-D3>	and then it goes somewhat down hill
Nov 12 23:10:09 <Diablo-D3>	then it goes up hill slightly
Nov 12 23:10:11 <Diablo-D3>	then back down hill
Nov 12 23:10:14 <BTCMining>	It always goes downhill
Nov 12 23:10:16 <Diablo-D3>	and then you get to the avengers
Nov 12 23:10:21 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: i'll just stick to reading
Nov 12 23:10:25 <BTCMining>	With literally everything
Nov 12 23:10:29 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: well
Nov 12 23:10:34 <Diablo-D3>	not everybody can be robert downey jr
Nov 12 23:10:48 <BTCMining>	Starts good then goes downhill.
Nov 12 23:10:58 <Diablo-D3>	iron man 1 just shouldnt have been that damned good
Nov 12 23:11:01 <smickles>	or watching 'the binding of nilesy'
Nov 12 23:11:13 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: watch iron man 1. seriously.
Nov 12 23:11:14 <smickles>	now that is quality entertainment
Nov 12 23:11:16 <BTCMining>	So you have to create something new... to then see it go downhill.
Nov 12 23:11:48 <Diablo-D3>	iron man 1 is largely a fluke
Nov 12 23:11:54 <Diablo-D3>	american movies shouldnt turn out that well
Nov 12 23:11:55 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: i have seen it, and 'The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari' blows it the fuck out of the water
Nov 12 23:12:06 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: different types of movies there
Nov 12 23:12:10 <smickles>	so
Nov 12 23:12:22 <smickles>	they are both meant to entertain
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Nov 12 23:12:46 <BTCMining>	Create it at the top, let it roll down and aggregate cash, run down see what you earned through selling out quality over easy money, go back on top and make another ball. Seems to be the general motto of most creative venues.
Nov 12 23:13:02 <thestringpuller>	smickles
Nov 12 23:13:04 <thestringpuller>	I did it
Nov 12 23:13:08 <thestringpuller>	I'm not sleeping
Nov 12 23:13:15 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: and yours isnt even a movie
Nov 12 23:13:18 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: its a film
Nov 12 23:13:18 <smickles>	one did, and the other just kinda stimulated the entertainment part of my brain as if i were one of those girls who just lays still as you fuck them
Nov 12 23:13:40 <smickles>	thestringpuller: !!
Nov 12 23:13:43 <Diablo-D3>	never compare movies with films, you wont like the results
Nov 12 23:13:45 <smickles>	you'rea awake!
Nov 12 23:14:54 <Diablo-D3>	like, you want to destroy any film student?
Nov 12 23:14:59 <Diablo-D3>	show him 2001.
Nov 12 23:15:00 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: heh, what are you on about, i compare/contrast every activity with every other one i think of at that moment to judge if it's worth it to do
Nov 12 23:15:13 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: its like comparing fine wine to pizza.
Nov 12 23:15:17 <Diablo-D3>	the comparison doesnt make sense
Nov 12 23:15:33 <smickles>	if the choice is to watch a film, or to sit on a park bench, i'll still have to make the decision
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Nov 12 23:16:28 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: clearly, we're talking about different sorts of judgements
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Nov 12 23:16:36 <BTCMining>	I might chose the park bench...
Nov 12 23:17:25 <smickles>	and I really see much of no distinction between "film", movies, "youtube", homemovies, cartoons, etc
Nov 12 23:17:33 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: ahh, see
Nov 12 23:17:50 <Diablo-D3>	the difference between you and me is
Nov 12 23:18:08 <smickles>	non-interactive secquence of blinking lights associated with sound (optionally)
Nov 12 23:18:31 <smickles>	usually goes well with alcohol
Nov 12 23:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00050693 = 3.3204 BTC [-]
Nov 12 23:18:45 <Diablo-D3>	Im better than you. Clearly.
Nov 12 23:19:09 <smickles>	thestringpuller: did you still want to attempt a game of monopoly?
Nov 12 23:19:17 <smickles>	maybe we can get Diablo-D3 in on it
Nov 12 23:19:30 <Diablo-D3>	did someone say monpoly?
Nov 12 23:19:42 <smickles>	:)
Nov 12 23:19:46 <Diablo-D3>	is there a linux version? :<
Nov 12 23:19:50 <smickles>	yup
Nov 12 23:19:54 <Diablo-D3>	wait, really?
Nov 12 23:20:05 <smickles>	let me get you the link
Nov 12 23:20:26 <smickles>	http://www.psmonopoly.com/download-monopoly
Nov 12 23:20:28 <BTCMining>	hey, I want to try that monopoly thing
Nov 12 23:20:42 <smickles>	also, there is a 'getdeb' deb available
Nov 12 23:20:58 <smickles>	and it's all just an implementation of monopd
Nov 12 23:21:12 <BTCMining>	so "monopd"
Nov 12 23:21:13 <smickles>	an open source protocol
Nov 12 23:21:26 <smickles>	BTCMining: monopd client
Nov 12 23:21:28 <Diablo-D3>	.... bwhahahaha
Nov 12 23:21:35 <Diablo-D3>	they're using gtkatlantic
Nov 12 23:21:48 <Diablo-D3>	gtkatlantic is older than fuck
Nov 12 23:21:51 <smickles>	there's that, and capitalism
Nov 12 23:22:07 <BTCMining>	I don't see monopd client
Nov 12 23:22:11 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: you know the organization getdeb?
Nov 12 23:22:18 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: no?
Nov 12 23:22:23 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: gtkatlantic
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Nov 12 23:22:25 <smickles>	they distribute the non gtkatlantic one
Nov 12 23:22:33 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: debian has packaged it for like a decade
Nov 12 23:23:07 <smickles>	http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/12.04/?q=capitalism
Nov 12 23:23:18 <smickles>	that is much better than the debian thing
Nov 12 23:23:22 <smickles>	er
Nov 12 23:23:33 <smickles>	the one distributed with ubuntu
Nov 12 23:23:47 <smickles>	*ubuntu's software center
Nov 12 23:23:53 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder why debian doesnt include capitalism
Nov 12 23:23:59 <smickles>	no clue
Nov 12 23:24:55 <smickles>	Diablo-D3, BTCMining, thestringpuller 4 people is the perfect amount for a game
Nov 12 23:25:12 <Diablo-D3>	>tbz
Nov 12 23:25:15 <Diablo-D3>	fffffffff
Nov 12 23:25:16 <smickles>	and we could have a .2btc ante per game if ya'll are interested
Nov 12 23:25:28 <BTCMining>	why not
Nov 12 23:25:37 <Diablo-D3>	cant people just say .tar.bz
Nov 12 23:25:37 <smickles>	thestringpuller: wake up!
Nov 12 23:28:11 <smickles>	ok,
Nov 12 23:28:24 <smickles>	i've started a game up at electrum.bitfoo.org
Nov 12 23:28:28 <smickles>	if the server holds
Nov 12 23:28:42 <thestringpuller>	k
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Nov 12 23:28:55 <thestringpuller>	starting up capitalism
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Nov 12 23:29:26 <BTCMining>	hmm
Nov 12 23:29:28 <Diablo-D3>	Ill join in a second
Nov 12 23:29:57 <thestringpuller>	actually give me 10-15 min
Nov 12 23:33:15 <Diablo-D3>	fuck I hate qt apps
Nov 12 23:33:24 <smickles>	then use the gtk one
Nov 12 23:33:49 <smickles>	or write one that just uses x11
Nov 12 23:35:14 <smickles>	"Capitalism is build with Qt4, so it runs on all important Operating Systems."
Nov 12 23:35:27 <Diablo-D3>	main.cpp:20:30: fatal error: QtGui/QApplication: No such file or directory
Nov 12 23:35:27 <Diablo-D3>	compilation terminated.
Nov 12 23:35:39 <Diablo-D3>	I have the fucking shit installed you fucking pile of shit program
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Nov 12 23:37:48 <smickles>	ok, we'll give a some time for Diablo-D3 and thestringpuller to get their act together, i'll have a smoke
Nov 12 23:37:59 <smickles>	bb in 5
Nov 12 23:38:16 *	Diablo-D3 listens to the tf2 soundtrack
Nov 12 23:38:31 <BTCMining>	Apparently, Mac is for students/hipsters, Linux is for work/projects/enthusiast, and Windows is a clown for entertainment.
Nov 12 23:38:43 <Diablo-D3>	windows is a sad clown :<
Nov 12 23:38:53 <Diablo-D3>	<WindowsRT> KHEEL MEE!
Nov 12 23:38:54 <BTCMining>	As such, games are made to work on Windows =/
Nov 12 23:38:56 <Diablo-D3>	*fridge slam*
Nov 12 23:38:59 <thestringpuller>	smickles
Nov 12 23:39:07 <BTCMining>	and occasionally, Macs, for procrastinating students.
Nov 12 23:39:48 <Diablo-D3>	okay got it to build
Nov 12 23:39:56 <Diablo-D3>	somehow libqt4-dev got uninstalled
Nov 12 23:40:09 <Diablo-D3>	probably when I was fucking with trying to get steam.deb to work the other day
Nov 12 23:42:09 <Diablo-D3>	and macs can be serious too
Nov 12 23:42:11 <Diablo-D3>	just install vim
Nov 12 23:43:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33550 @ 0.00050631 = 16.9867 BTC [-]
Nov 12 23:43:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13334 @ 0.00050599 = 6.7469 BTC [-]
Nov 12 23:48:40 <smickles>	thestringpuller
Nov 12 23:49:43 <smickles>	thestringpuller, Diablo-D3 url is electrum.bitfoo.org
Nov 12 23:51:29 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, Im already there
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Nov 12 23:58:09 <thestringpuller>	smickles: are you setting up server on vps
Nov 12 23:58:12 <thestringpuller>	I can do same if you'd like
Nov 12 23:58:20 <thestringpuller>	i have a rackspace
Nov 12 23:58:40 <smickles>	ok, go for it, first succede wins
Nov 12 23:59:15 <smickles>	i installed it, but can't figure out how to run it
Nov 13 00:00:21 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Nov 13 00:01:01 <Diablo-D3>	WHY ARE WE NOT PLAYING
Nov 13 00:02:35 <thestringpuller>	because we can't get a server running
Nov 13 00:02:44 <thestringpuller>	I'm trying to run it off my server
Nov 13 00:02:50 <thestringpuller>	but I'm bad at dns
Nov 13 00:03:01 <smickles>	yeah, i emerged it on gentoo, and can't find the command to run it
Nov 13 00:03:23 <thestringpuller>	read the manual :)
Nov 13 00:04:27 <smickles>	man monopd
Nov 13 00:04:31 <smickles>	no entry found
Nov 13 00:05:02 <thestringpuller>	hahahahaha
Nov 13 00:07:18 <BTCMining>	so...
Nov 13 00:08:07 *	Gladamas_ is now known as Gladamas
Nov 13 00:09:26 <Diablo-D3>	so what are we going?
Nov 13 00:09:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3516 @ 0.00050599 = 1.7791 BTC [-]
Nov 13 00:09:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13334 @ 0.0005055 = 6.7403 BTC [-]
Nov 13 00:11:24 <smickles>	jeebus, where did this thing install to
Nov 13 00:12:50 <smickles>	bing
Nov 13 00:12:54 <smickles>	mostofmany.com
Nov 13 00:12:55 <smickles>	^^
Nov 13 00:13:01 <smickles>	thestringpuller: Diablo-D3 BTCMining
Nov 13 00:13:42 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: join already you asshole
Nov 13 00:13:58 <thestringpuller>	socket closet
Nov 13 00:14:10 <smickles>	mostofmany.com port 1234?
Nov 13 00:14:21 <thestringpuller>	wait nvm it ied to me
Nov 13 00:14:25 <thestringpuller>	lied to me*
Nov 13 00:15:13 <smickles>	BTCMining: we pulled it off ! c'mon :)
Nov 13 00:17:36 <BTCMining>	string... your turn
Nov 13 00:18:06 <Diablo-D3>	hes too busy putting a fag in his mouth
Nov 13 00:18:28 <smickles>	well, i smoke a pipe, so ... yeah
Nov 13 00:19:14 <BTCMining>	TSP, stop pulling strings (I know you like politics) and come over here. There's economics.
Nov 13 00:19:38 <smickles>	it's capitalism, yo
Nov 13 00:20:16 <BTCMining>	capitalism centered economics*
Nov 13 00:22:38 <BTCMining>	What the...
Nov 13 00:22:48 <smickles>	huh?
Nov 13 00:23:02 <smickles>	7 minutes is enough to smoke, eh?
Nov 13 00:23:10 <BTCMining>	There's loud "THUD"s followed by the house shaking. I can hear rain outside but that doesn't sound like lightning
Nov 13 00:23:25 <Diablo-D3>	quickly! find out if its an alien metiorite!
Nov 13 00:23:30 <BTCMining>	There was 3 actually...
Nov 13 00:23:44 <BTCMining>	Nah, probably someone blowing up the subway or something.
Nov 13 00:23:48 <Diablo-D3>	ITS AN INVASION
Nov 13 00:23:50 <Diablo-D3>	FUCK YEAH
Nov 13 00:24:01 *	Diablo-D3 presses button, rises out of ground in giant robot
Nov 13 00:24:02 <smickles>	quickly, to TWITTAR
Nov 13 00:24:20 <BTCMining>	Oh right... I ordered my minions to take control of the world. I forgot, the date was set for today.
Nov 13 00:24:39 <BTCMining>	Nevermind, everything is fine. Stay in your houses
Nov 13 00:24:55 <smickles>	BTCMining: what major city are you near?
Nov 13 00:25:09 <BTCMining>	I'm in Montreal.
Nov 13 00:25:49 <smickles>	#FX Signal provider predicts Obama Victory and cashes in 48 hours before election. #forex http://bit.ly/TzzNDC
Nov 13 00:25:57 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: PLAY
Nov 13 00:25:57 <smickles>	top of twitter for montreal
Nov 13 00:25:57 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: PLAY
Nov 13 00:25:58 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: PLAY
Nov 13 00:25:58 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: PLAY
Nov 13 00:25:58 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: PLAY
Nov 13 00:25:58 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: PLAY
Nov 13 00:25:59 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: PLAY
Nov 13 00:26:01 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: PLAY
Nov 13 00:26:03 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: PLAY
Nov 13 00:26:06 <thestringpuller>	Lol
Nov 13 00:26:08 <smickles>	PLAY
Nov 13 00:26:14 <BTCMining>	ayeaye
Nov 13 00:26:29 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Nov 13 00:26:33 <Diablo-D3>	iit threw you out
Nov 13 00:26:42 <BTCMining>	hey...
Nov 13 00:26:53 <BTCMining>	shows stringpuller as the current player
Nov 13 00:26:58 <Diablo-D3>	nope
Nov 13 00:27:00 <Diablo-D3>	we're playing
Nov 13 00:27:05 <BTCMining>	...
Nov 13 00:27:26 <BTCMining>	Why is that client so shitty... can't it blink on one's turn?
Nov 13 00:27:34 <BTCMining>	How hard can that be...
Nov 13 00:27:45 <BTCMining>	IRC/IM software do...
Nov 13 00:27:56 <smickles>	BTCMining: i think you lost the connection
Nov 13 00:28:14 <smickles>	and it bankrupted and booted you
Nov 13 00:28:20 <BTCMining>	ah, well I'm on wireless
Nov 13 00:28:35 <smickles>	wana petition for retry?
Nov 13 00:28:45 <BTCMining>	Anything that has low limits before disconnecting boots me out.
Nov 13 00:28:54 <smickles>	it's 180 seconds
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Nov 13 00:30:00 <BTCMining>	ah
Nov 13 00:30:12 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: you should ssh tunnel it to a reliable box
Nov 13 00:30:19 <BTCMining>	why didn't string get kicked out? He took some time
Nov 13 00:30:29 <Diablo-D3>	he was still connected though
Nov 13 00:30:45 <Diablo-D3>	he was physically afk
Nov 13 00:31:01 <Diablo-D3>	oh this is hilarious
Nov 13 00:31:06 <Diablo-D3>	you're missing out on epic wtfery
Nov 13 00:31:53 <BTCMining>	oh well
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Nov 13 00:34:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9546 @ 0.0005055 = 4.8255 BTC [-]
Nov 13 00:34:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36200 @ 0.00050532 = 18.2926 BTC [-]
Nov 13 00:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7004 @ 0.00050509 = 3.5377 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 00:42:16 <Diablo-D3>	wtf?
Nov 13 00:42:20 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: did you boot me?
Nov 13 00:42:33 <smickles>	oh shit,
Nov 13 00:42:41 <smickles>	i didn't open it in a screen
Nov 13 00:42:47 <Diablo-D3>	......
Nov 13 00:42:49 <smickles>	and my ssh lagged out
Nov 13 00:42:54 <Diablo-D3>	you are extrafaggot
Nov 13 00:43:17 <thestringpuller>	ping
Nov 13 00:43:17 <smickles>	ah, well, i've got it in a screen now ... ~:|
Nov 13 00:43:34 <thestringpuller>	did I lag out?
Nov 13 00:43:41 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: the idiot fucked it up
Nov 13 00:43:44 <smickles>	thestringpuller: no, i fucked up
Nov 13 00:43:47 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 13 00:43:54 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: name the game better anyway
Nov 13 00:44:00 <smickles>	#named
Nov 13 00:44:45 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller, BTCMining: JOIN NOW
Nov 13 00:44:58 <smickles>	well, try again or no?
Nov 13 00:45:02 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Nov 13 00:45:06 <Diablo-D3>	because I was winning last time
Nov 13 00:45:06 <thestringpuller>	are we restarting?
Nov 13 00:45:12 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: yes
Nov 13 00:45:15 <thestringpuller>	I had more assets
Nov 13 00:45:20 <thestringpuller>	I'ma need 10 minutes
Nov 13 00:45:30 <thestringpuller>	more smoke smoke break
Nov 13 00:45:39 <smickles>	damn, that's a lot of smoke
Nov 13 00:45:43 <smickles>	imho
Nov 13 00:45:49 <thestringpuller>	I love to smoke
Nov 13 00:45:53 <smickles>	is it tobacco?
Nov 13 00:46:00 <thestringpuller>	Lol
Nov 13 00:46:02 <thestringpuller>	Is it?
Nov 13 00:46:04 <thestringpuller>	;)
Nov 13 00:46:14 <thestringpuller>	wacky tobaccy
Nov 13 00:46:19 <thestringpuller>	;)
Nov 13 00:50:15 <Diablo-D3>	man doesnt anyone else want to join?
Nov 13 00:54:23 <smickles>	i did, didn't i?
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Nov 13 00:55:08 <Diablo-D3>	er
Nov 13 00:55:12 <smickles>	is this just shitty software?
Nov 13 00:55:14 <Diablo-D3>	did the server die?
Nov 13 00:55:23 <thestringpuller>	did i drop?
Nov 13 00:55:40 <BTCMining>	No, I dropped!
Nov 13 00:55:41 <thestringpuller>	:(
Nov 13 00:55:46 <Diablo-D3>	we all dropped
Nov 13 00:55:50 <smickles>	server is still up
Nov 13 00:55:53 <thestringpuller>	none of my pings is going through
Nov 13 00:56:00 <Diablo-D3>	how you tell if you dropped: chat, and dont see your reply
Nov 13 00:56:08 <smickles>	i drop pings
Nov 13 00:56:19 <BTCMining>	screw this
Nov 13 00:56:24 <Diablo-D3>	lets play pioneers instead
Nov 13 00:56:40 <BTCMining>	http://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-mafia-is-taking-over-montreal-2012-11
Nov 13 00:56:57 <smickles>	try to reconnect to the server
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Nov 13 00:57:33 <BTCMining>	What has been kind of common knowledge is now getting... well... somewhere
Nov 13 00:57:49 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: already tried
Nov 13 00:57:50 <Diablo-D3>	wont connect
Nov 13 00:58:49 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 13 00:58:53 <thestringpuller>	everyone dropped but me
Nov 13 00:58:59 <thestringpuller>	reminds me of starcraft back in the day
Nov 13 00:59:50 <smickles>	huh, it sees you guys trying
Nov 13 01:00:02 <Diablo-D3>	yeah but the game is dead
Nov 13 01:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16296 @ 0.00050509 = 8.2309 BTC [-]
Nov 13 01:00:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13404 @ 0.000505 = 6.769 BTC [-]
Nov 13 01:00:14 <Diablo-D3>	everyone install pioneers
Nov 13 01:00:22 <smickles>	pioneers?
Nov 13 01:00:26 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Nov 13 01:00:34 <smickles>	link?
Nov 13 01:00:35 <Diablo-D3>	its an open source impl of settlers of catan
Nov 13 01:00:43 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: apt-get install pioneers
Nov 13 01:01:22 <BTCMining>	... link?
Nov 13 01:02:04 <smickles>	um, server?
Nov 13 01:02:16 <thestringpuller>	I'm gonna play assassins creed before I pass out
Nov 13 01:02:19 <Diablo-D3>	http://pio.sourceforge.net/
Nov 13 01:02:31 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: 64.222.225.145
Nov 13 01:02:38 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Nov 13 01:02:54 <pigeons>	here's a good one: https://btcjam.com/listings/379
Nov 13 01:03:26 <smickles>	pigeons: lol
Nov 13 01:03:26 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: join?
Nov 13 01:03:35 <BTCMining>	one sec
Nov 13 01:03:37 <BTCMining>	installing
Nov 13 01:03:45 <BTCMining>	damn... the thuds are there again
Nov 13 01:03:50 <smickles>	i'm player 3 of 2
Nov 13 01:03:56 <BTCMining>	sounds like someone is banging the house's wall
Nov 13 01:04:24 <smickles>	BTCMining: did yellowstone blow up? you'd be first of us to know
Nov 13 01:04:35 <Diablo-D3>	we'd know in 15 minutes anyhow
Nov 13 01:04:45 <Diablo-D3>	as chunks of rock start to descend from low earth orbit
Nov 13 01:04:50 <BTCMining>	Nah...
Nov 13 01:04:52 <smickles>	i'd still like even 1 min of warning
Nov 13 01:06:24 <smickles>	so we're waiting on BTCMining? Diablo-D3
Nov 13 01:06:40 <Diablo-D3>	we dont have to, I could add two AI players
Nov 13 01:06:58 <smickles>	but BTCMining intends to join us, right?
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Nov 13 01:07:05 <smickles>	there 'e is
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Nov 13 01:24:49 <Diablo-D3>	wtf smickles
Nov 13 01:24:49 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: yo!
Nov 13 01:24:58 <BTCMining>	you exploded or something
Nov 13 01:25:22 <smickles>	did i lag out?
Nov 13 01:25:25 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Nov 13 01:25:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22914 @ 0.00050636 = 11.6027 BTC [+]
Nov 13 01:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14759 @ 0.000507 = 7.4828 BTC [+]
Nov 13 01:25:26 <Diablo-D3>	reconnect
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Nov 13 02:15:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00050501 = 1.01 BTC [+]
Nov 13 02:15:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2115 @ 0.000505 = 1.0681 BTC [-]
Nov 13 02:15:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31246 @ 0.000505 = 15.7792 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 02:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00050566 = 4.4498 BTC [+]
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Nov 13 02:56:44 <smickles>	that'll do men on the game play guys
Nov 13 02:56:50 <smickles>	thanks for the games :)
Nov 13 02:56:57 <Diablo-D3>	k
Nov 13 03:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12758 @ 0.000507 = 6.4683 BTC [+]
Nov 13 03:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13029 @ 0.00050728 = 6.6094 BTC [+]
Nov 13 03:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14616 @ 0.00050872 = 7.4355 BTC [+]
Nov 13 03:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0005065 = 3.5455 BTC [-]
Nov 13 03:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00050566 = 14.0321 BTC [-]
Nov 13 03:31:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.000505 = 2.3483 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 03:45:23 <BTCMining>	Well I'm out Diablo
Nov 13 03:45:30 <BTCMining>	Maybe another day
Nov 13 03:45:32 <Diablo-D3>	k
Nov 13 03:45:33 <BTCMining>	Fun game
Nov 13 03:45:36 *	Diablo-D3 GOES AGAINST ALL 3 BOTS
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Nov 13 03:54:28 <Diablo-D3>	BTCMining: I won :<
Nov 13 03:57:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14104 @ 0.000505 = 7.1225 BTC [-]
Nov 13 03:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21609 @ 0.0005032 = 10.8736 BTC [-]
Nov 13 04:03:14 <Diablo-D3>	lost with 9 points
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Nov 13 04:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1491 @ 0.0005032 = 0.7503 BTC [-]
Nov 13 04:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24609 @ 0.000503 = 12.3783 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 04:23:46 <Diablo-D3>	won
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Nov 13 04:31:52 <Diablo-D3>	won again
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Nov 13 04:47:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27081 @ 0.000503 = 13.6217 BTC [-]
Nov 13 04:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3319 @ 0.00050292 = 1.6692 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 05:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13519 @ 0.00050269 = 6.7959 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 05:37:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24181 @ 0.00050269 = 12.1555 BTC [-]
Nov 13 05:37:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3619 @ 0.00050251 = 1.8186 BTC [-]
Nov 13 06:03:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1731 @ 0.00050251 = 0.8698 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 06:03:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00050239 = 4.8229 BTC [-]
Nov 13 06:03:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4263 @ 0.00050221 = 2.1409 BTC [-]
Nov 13 06:03:21 *	FelicityWubwell (~ghacksbad@67.221.255.12) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Nov 13 06:04:05 <Diablo-D3>	go away usagi
Nov 13 06:04:09 *	Received a CTCP PING 15384133 from FelicityWubwell (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 13 06:05:13 *	FelicityWubwell is now known as WubWub
Nov 13 06:06:15 *	Received a CTCP PING 15510307 from WubWub (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 13 06:07:29 *	Received a CTCP PING 15576810 from WubWub (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:07:30 *	WubWub is now known as AwesomeToThe
Nov 13 06:07:30 *	Received a CTCP PING 15582270 from AwesomeToThe (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:07:31 *	Received a CTCP PING 15582380 from AwesomeToThe (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 13 06:07:33 *	Received a CTCP PING 15583893 from AwesomeToThe (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 13 06:07:34 *	Received a CTCP PING 15584064 from AwesomeToThe (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:07:35 *	Received a CTCP PING 15584205 from AwesomeToThe (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:07:35 *	Received a CTCP PING 15584408 from AwesomeToThe (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:07:36 *	Received a CTCP PING 15584564 from AwesomeToThe (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:07:36 *	Received a CTCP PING 15584610 from AwesomeToThe (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 13 06:08:01 *	Chugita is now known as Maxxx
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Nov 13 06:08:16 <Maxxx>	hey Goat
Nov 13 06:08:25 <Maxxx>	do you know what it is?
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Nov 13 06:08:32 <Maxxx>	It's Awesome!
Nov 13 06:08:38 <Maxxx>	Awesome to the max!
Nov 13 06:08:47 <Maxxx>	Awesome to the max!
Nov 13 06:08:54 *	Received a CTCP PING 15668508 from Maxxx (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:08:54 *	Received a CTCP PING 15669147 from Maxxx (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 13 06:09:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 15681877 from Maxxx (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:09:07 *	Received a CTCP PING 15682392 from Maxxx (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:09:08 *	Received a CTCP PING 15682782 from Maxxx (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:09:08 *	Maxxx is now known as Awesome
Nov 13 06:09:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 15686510 from Awesome (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:09:12 *	Received a CTCP PING 15687150 from Awesome (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 13 06:09:13 *	Received a CTCP PING 15688320 from Awesome (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:09:16 *	Awesome is now known as AwesomeToTheMax
Nov 13 06:09:16 *	Received a CTCP PING 15690878 from AwesomeToTheMax (to #bitcoin-assets)
Nov 13 06:09:16 *	Received a CTCP PING 15691393 from AwesomeToTheMax (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Nov 13 06:11:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	?
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Nov 13 06:12:09 <AwesomeToTheMax>	Awesome!
Nov 13 06:12:13 <AwesomeToTheMax>	Awesome to the max!
Nov 13 06:12:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	futurama referance?
Nov 13 06:12:40 <AwesomeToTheMax>	yes :D
Nov 13 06:12:47 <AwesomeToTheMax>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTUVjaZ3xAs
Nov 13 06:13:00 <Chaaang-Noi>	why are you spamming?
Nov 13 06:13:13 <AwesomeToTheMax>	boredom
Nov 13 06:13:19 <AwesomeToTheMax>	I turned off the timers
Nov 13 06:13:25 <AwesomeToTheMax>	but dey still going :(
Nov 13 06:13:42 <AwesomeToTheMax>	der dey stopped
Nov 13 06:13:43 <AwesomeToTheMax>	:D
Nov 13 06:14:14 <AwesomeToTheMax>	bah
Nov 13 06:14:18 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuckin lag
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Nov 13 06:15:46 <AwesomeToTheMax>	* All timers halted
Nov 13 06:15:49 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
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Nov 13 06:16:05 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:05 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:05 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:05 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:05 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:06 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:07 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:07 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:07 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:07 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:08 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:08 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:08 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuck you irc
Nov 13 06:16:13 <AwesomeToTheMax>	fuckin turn off
Nov 13 06:16:15 <AwesomeToTheMax>	GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Nov 13 06:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
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Nov 13 06:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	this is funny : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123873.0
Nov 13 06:18:55 <mircea_popescu>	20-120 bitcoins in prizes, nobody replies.
Nov 13 06:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	if i had offered .1 btc for some stupidshit like a signature it would be FULL
Nov 13 06:19:10 <Diablo-D3>	wait, what?
Nov 13 06:19:30 <Diablo-D3>	what am I writing?
Nov 13 06:19:54 <mircea_popescu>	whatever you want.
Nov 13 06:21:22 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: what exactly is it that you want written, however?
Nov 13 06:22:09 <mircea_popescu>	well, you kinda have to read the article. but it's a 4-6k words fiction piece
Nov 13 06:22:24 <Diablo-D3>	I did read it
Nov 13 06:22:27 <Diablo-D3>	but you sort of go off on a tangent
Nov 13 06:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	there's three ways i can see gpg contracts going on
Nov 13 06:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	there could be more
Nov 13 06:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	either find one more, or else write out one of the three
Nov 13 06:23:21 <Diablo-D3>	how about I write a story about how the rothchilds have a pgp contract with lucifer the morningstar, their god, and thus end the world
Nov 13 06:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Nov 13 06:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	except, work it out so it fits one of teh three!
Nov 13 06:24:12 <Diablo-D3>	I dont want to be assassinated :<
Nov 13 06:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	eh get out.
Nov 13 06:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	nobody's getting assasinated cause of something they wrote on the interwebs
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Nov 13 06:26:21 <Diablo-D3>	but its true about them and lucifer :<
Nov 13 06:26:30 <mircea_popescu>	even so.
Nov 13 06:27:41 <jurov>	diablo, in that case, you don't have to fear anything when you get asassinated for revealing such truth
Nov 13 06:27:57 <jurov>	for this deed shall surely wawrd you place in God's Kingdom
Nov 13 06:28:00 <jurov>	;D
Nov 13 06:28:08 <jurov>	*award
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Nov 13 06:28:26 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: but I _am_ Lucifer :<
Nov 13 06:28:35 <Diablo-D3>	dying _hurts_
Nov 13 06:28:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00050658 = 10.9675 BTC [+]
Nov 13 06:28:59 <jurov>	you will, sooner or later
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Nov 13 06:29:06 <Diablo-D3>	well, sometimes. I did it a few times during WW2, some of them wern't so bad.
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Nov 13 06:29:39 <Diablo-D3>	but I guess it wont matter
Nov 13 06:29:41 <Diablo-D3>	the world is ending soon
Nov 13 06:29:56 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I think I have a better idea, though
Nov 13 06:30:04 <Diablo-D3>	a bitcoin powered ebook market.
Nov 13 06:30:56 <mircea_popescu>	right, because bitcoin people are this mix of 1% people who have not the time to fuck their gfs and 99% people who never had a gf
Nov 13 06:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	they're EXACTLY the people who read books.
Nov 13 06:31:20 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you've never read a book while getting a blowjob?
Nov 13 06:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Nov 13 06:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	i prefer fondling the other girl.
Nov 13 06:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	bah i wish cpanel would STOP CHANGING THE LOOKS OF THE WEB INTERFACE
Nov 13 06:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	every time i go to log in they give me a jolt.
Nov 13 06:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	"whoa, phishing ?!"
Nov 13 06:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes.
Nov 13 06:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha. fo reals ?!
Nov 13 06:35:34 <mircea_popescu>	Detroit has more registered voters than residents over 18, Census finds
Nov 13 06:36:24 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: CLEARLY THIS IS THE WORK OF OBAMA
Nov 13 06:36:26 <Diablo-D3>	or something
Nov 13 06:36:44 <Diablo-D3>	my faux republican rage wore out quite some time ago
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Nov 13 06:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	i just think it's funny how 3rd world the us is.
Nov 13 06:37:37 <Diablo-D3>	there are no first world countries left
Nov 13 06:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, for all of the 20th century they've kept pretending and we've kept pretending like they're part of civilisation
Nov 13 06:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	but, really... never was the case. becomes more and more obvious.
Nov 13 06:37:57 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well
Nov 13 06:37:59 <Diablo-D3>	its up to us bitcoiners
Nov 13 06:38:02 <Diablo-D3>	to create a new country
Nov 13 06:38:18 <Diablo-D3>	one that preserves the rights of life, liberty, and PUSSY!
Nov 13 06:38:22 <Diablo-D3>	NOW WHOS WITH ME?!
Nov 13 06:38:43 <mircea_popescu>	crickets.
Nov 13 06:38:51 <Diablo-D3>	You're all fags, you know that.
Nov 13 06:39:28 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: did you (or she) set up the thread in the forums about what people think about your PR?
Nov 13 06:39:48 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Nov 13 06:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	ohio had a county where there was a 103% voter turnout
Nov 13 06:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	you know... this happened in a hamlet in romania last elections
Nov 13 06:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	those people are now spending their time between the da and the court.
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Nov 13 06:43:23 <Diablo-D3>	its happened everywhere forever.
Nov 13 06:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Nov 13 06:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	but you gotta keep sending them to jale.
Nov 13 06:44:18 <Diablo-D3>	jail
Nov 13 06:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	that too.
Nov 13 06:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16856 @ 0.00050535 = 8.5182 BTC [-]
Nov 13 06:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10094 @ 0.00050221 = 5.0693 BTC [-]
Nov 13 06:57:36 <jurov>	eskimobob, go satisfy your urges there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.0
Nov 13 06:57:52 <EskimoBob>	SupaDupa: wtf are you spamming? Get a life, you fkn asshole, or just hang yourself '
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Nov 13 06:59:25 <EskimoBob>	jurov: what urges?
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Nov 13 07:00:00 <jurov>	to know what ppl think about MPOE-PR
Nov 13 07:00:20 <Guest66360>	she is a whore
Nov 13 07:02:00 <EskimoBob>	Guest66360 is the same scumbag SupaDupa:
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Nov 13 07:03:28 <jurov>	eskimo, you really think they will ever start such thread? why?
Nov 13 07:03:41 <EskimoBob>	we really need a OP here to kick idiots like supasupa for good
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Nov 13 07:04:04 <Maxxxx>	you are definately suckin both my balls
Nov 13 07:04:12 <Maxxxx>	but maybe if you slow down I can pull one outta your mouf
Nov 13 07:04:43 <mircea_popescu>	am i missing something here ?
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Nov 13 07:05:08 <EskimoBob>	jurov: tough bitch like mpoe-pr-cunt (or is it mircea_popescu alter ego) can take some beating. Unless she is actually not as tough as she-he pretends to be
Nov 13 07:05:26 <EskimoBob>	fuck, not another she-he lunatic. Usagi was enough :)
Nov 13 07:05:33 <Maxxxx>	she-he can lick my ballsack
Nov 13 07:05:48 <Maxxxx>	no homo
Nov 13 07:06:06 <jurov>	so she-he should start a thread about public opinion to herself to show she's tough?
Nov 13 07:06:19 <jurov>	quite fascinating thought processes here
Nov 13 07:06:26 <Maxxxx>	I wish she-he would go outside
Nov 13 07:06:33 <Maxxxx>	and play hide and go fuck his-her self
Nov 13 07:06:34 <EskimoBob>	no thread so I guess she is just a insecure and sad pretender
Nov 13 07:07:04 <jurov>	lmaowtfbbq
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Nov 13 07:07:19 <Maxxxx>	no one cares what you say EskimoBob
Nov 13 07:07:19 <EskimoBob>	nose typing?
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Nov 13 07:08:07 <EskimoBob>	"Secession Petitions Flood White House Website" LOL http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/11/12/2113214/secession-petitions-flood-white-house-website
Nov 13 07:10:03 <AreFun>	since Obama is president shouldn't it be called The Half-White House?
Nov 13 07:10:08 <AreFun>	considering he's half black...
Nov 13 07:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Nov 13 07:10:59 <AreFun>	too early for jokes?
Nov 13 07:11:28 <EskimoBob>	take a look at the petition site, it's really funny
Nov 13 07:11:29 <Diablo-D3>	the jokes will never be funny, really
Nov 13 07:11:43 <Diablo-D3>	its called the white house because of the color on the outside, not the colored on the inside
Nov 13 07:12:19 <AreFun>	umm
Nov 13 07:12:28 <AreFun>	are you saying Obama is black on the inside
Nov 13 07:12:29 <AreFun>	LOL!
Nov 13 07:12:47 <AreFun>	last time I checked your skin colour was on the fuckin outside Diablo-D3
Nov 13 07:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gpg-contracts/#comment-90442 << how the fuck do i end up with all the crazies ?
Nov 13 07:13:06 <AreFun>	considering your fuckin skin colour is only visible on the outside since it's fuckin skin
Nov 13 07:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	this dude wants to fix bitcoin : there should be pairs of bitcoins "going in countercurrent"
Nov 13 07:13:20 <Diablo-D3>	AreFun: you missed the joke.
Nov 13 07:13:45 <mircea_popescu>	he did say "the colored"
Nov 13 07:13:56 <AreFun>	I know there's a ton of grape drink in The White House now
Nov 13 07:14:20 <Diablo-D3>	at least mircea_popescu got it
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Nov 13 07:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	that didn't last long.
Nov 13 07:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	what's his story anyway.
Nov 13 07:16:04 <Diablo-D3>	who knows
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Nov 13 07:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	is this the guy who used to spam goatse re some bitcoin ransom or something like that ?
Nov 13 07:18:37 <Diablo-D3>	no
Nov 13 07:18:40 <Diablo-D3>	I thought it was usagi
Nov 13 07:18:52 <Diablo-D3>	but usagi doesnt swear
Nov 13 07:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	well not in his bunny costume
Nov 13 07:19:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00050658 = 5.4711 BTC [+]
Nov 13 07:22:14 <EskimoBob>	this was probably supadupa, known lunatic from ltc and btc channel
Nov 13 07:22:24 <Diablo-D3>	might be
Nov 13 07:22:36 <Diablo-D3>	that asshole has been causing problems lately again
Nov 13 07:22:58 <EskimoBob>	yes. sending huge pkg as CTCP ping
Nov 13 07:23:24 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, what did he think that was going to do?
Nov 13 07:23:26 <Diablo-D3>	it doesnt do anything
Nov 13 07:24:17 <EskimoBob>	if you have a crappy line, it will drop your connection or something like that
Nov 13 07:24:29 <Diablo-D3>	I have a crappy line, it does nothing.
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Nov 13 07:26:35 <EskimoBob>	damn James
Nov 13 07:27:02 <Diablo-D3>	who?
Nov 13 07:27:04 <EskimoBob>	no update https://blog.glbse.com/
Nov 13 07:27:36 <Diablo-D3>	oh nefario
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Nov 13 07:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he didn't like the flowers.
Nov 13 07:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21793 @ 0.00050221 = 10.9447 BTC [-]
Nov 13 07:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00050217 = 5.5992 BTC [-]
Nov 13 07:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10357 @ 0.00050215 = 5.2008 BTC [-]
Nov 13 07:47:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	<mircea_popescu>  did you copy the ltc one? :)
Nov 13 07:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Nov 13 07:47:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	nvm
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Nov 13 07:51:18 <Chaaang-Noi>	what ever happened to usagi?
Nov 13 07:51:23 <Chaaang-Noi>	poof and he was gone?
Nov 13 07:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much.
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Nov 13 07:56:29 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, did they send nefario flowers?
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Nov 13 07:57:44 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: there was a plan
Nov 13 07:58:26 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: usagi was here yesterday but took off shortly.
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Nov 13 07:59:07 <EskimoBob>	Looks like he is also following me around the fkn forum like a pervert :)
Nov 13 08:00:07 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Nov 13 08:00:14 <Chaang-Noi>	they should send nefario flowers
Nov 13 08:00:18 <Chaang-Noi>	its some lulz
Nov 13 08:00:22 <Chaang-Noi>	ill chip in
Nov 13 08:03:44 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1331773#msg1331773
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Nov 13 08:06:30 <Chaang-Noi>	sadly i cant post but ill go read:)
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Nov 13 08:06:55 <Chaaang-Noi>	loading very slowly for me
Nov 13 08:09:15 <Chaaang-Noi>	ahh okay thanks :)
Nov 13 08:09:26 <Chaaang-Noi>	i hope it gets done, ill chip in a btc to whoever does it
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Nov 13 08:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00050658 = 5.9017 BTC [+]
Nov 13 08:09:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21250 @ 0.00050866 = 10.809 BTC [+]
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Nov 13 08:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4543 @ 0.00050215 = 2.2813 BTC [-]
Nov 13 08:34:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13721 @ 0.00050198 = 6.8877 BTC [-]
Nov 13 08:34:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13436 @ 0.00050175 = 6.7415 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 08:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17828 @ 0.00050175 = 8.9452 BTC [-]
Nov 13 08:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00050164 = 5.5682 BTC [-]
Nov 13 09:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 572 @ 0.0005016 = 0.2869 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 09:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7078 @ 0.0005016 = 3.5503 BTC [-]
Nov 13 09:25:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12052 @ 0.00050128 = 6.0414 BTC [-]
Nov 13 09:25:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3770 @ 0.0005012 = 1.8895 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 09:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42600 @ 0.0005012 = 21.3511 BTC [-]
Nov 13 09:51:07 <thestringpuller>	panic sell
Nov 13 09:51:09 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 13 09:52:52 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (11.30 - 11) / 11.30
Nov 13 09:52:53 <gribble>	0.0265486725664
Nov 13 09:53:03 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (11.9 - 11) / 11.9
Nov 13 09:53:04 <gribble>	0.0756302521008
Nov 13 09:53:14 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (15 - 11) / 15
Nov 13 09:53:14 <gribble>	0.266666666667
Nov 13 09:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 13 09:54:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.95001, Best ask: 10.99998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 10.99999, 24 hour volume: 20598.93273169, 24 hour low: 10.92150, 24 hour high: 11.18000, 24 hour vwap: 11.03907
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Nov 13 10:15:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9692 @ 0.0005012 = 4.8576 BTC [-]
Nov 13 10:15:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 358 @ 0.0005011 = 0.1794 BTC [-]
Nov 13 10:17:20 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I feel like option prices are correlated to the bots opinion on which way the price will swing.
Nov 13 10:20:20 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 13 10:20:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.97471, Best ask: 10.98990, Bid-ask spread: 0.01519, Last trade: 10.98990, 24 hour volume: 17626.08933055, 24 hour low: 10.92150, 24 hour high: 11.16998, 24 hour vwap: 11.03109
Nov 13 10:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9819 @ 0.0005011 = 4.9203 BTC [-]
Nov 13 10:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37231 @ 0.0005009 = 18.649 BTC [-]
Nov 13 10:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	really ?
Nov 13 10:52:16 <mircea_popescu>	so what's the story with the bfl/other asics ? late october came and went, early november came and by now went
Nov 13 10:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	we're mid november...
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Nov 13 11:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15019 @ 0.0005009 = 7.523 BTC [-]
Nov 13 11:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00050085 = 8.7148 BTC [-]
Nov 13 11:06:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 831 @ 0.00050066 = 0.416 BTC [-]
Nov 13 11:09:43 <mircea_popescu>	"You never donated for the welfare of this forum. Your username is present in various ignore lists. You have no respect for Theymos neither you share any preferences with him."
Nov 13 11:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	hohoho this thread is turning into quite the lulzfarm
Nov 13 11:11:40 <abracadabra>	sounds like fpga story?
Nov 13 11:11:46 <abracadabra>	history does really repeat itself
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Nov 13 11:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	abracadabra possibly.
Nov 13 11:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	i do have various bets bound to make me a lot of monyz if there's no asics this year, so
Nov 13 11:32:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34600 @ 0.00050066 = 17.3228 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 11:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4269 @ 0.00050066 = 2.1373 BTC [-]
Nov 13 11:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8516 @ 0.00050006 = 4.2585 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 12:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31350 @ 0.00050115 = 15.7111 BTC [+]
Nov 13 12:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00050121 = 9.949 BTC [+]
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Nov 13 12:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	so theymos has not read the thread but has an opinion.
Nov 13 12:57:25 <mircea_popescu>	why is this guy even involved ?
Nov 13 12:57:26 <kuzetsa>	:(
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Nov 13 12:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	i must have missed something here. some college student. ok, so ?
Nov 13 12:58:01 <kuzetsa>	mircea_popescu: just... like...
Nov 13 12:58:25 <kuzetsa>	why did you consider glbse to be shady or poorly run or whatever compared to yours?
Nov 13 12:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	kuzetsa that's a long list.
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Nov 13 12:59:03 <kuzetsa>	other than just being a competing service (which is a major reason I blindly ignored your criticism when I was actively getting myself screwed a few months ago on GLBSE)
Nov 13 12:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/security-comparison-of-bitcoin-denominated-instruments-exchanges/
Nov 13 12:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	for instance.
Nov 13 13:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	but to try and sum up months of history : i considered it poorly run right off the bat for technical reasons.
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Nov 13 13:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	these involve deep issues of security from a philosophical perspective, but also simple things like, they were using google analytics on the pages ;/
Nov 13 13:00:57 <kuzetsa>	ah lol yeah. I always try to make sure my session cookies end up invalid whenever I got AFK by manually logging out :)
Nov 13 13:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	and i considered it shady because of the behaviour re scammers. the exact sort of thing theymos is doing.
Nov 13 13:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	nefario supported peter lambert, theymos is supporting patrick harnett, it's all the same "buddy-buddy" bullshit.
Nov 13 13:01:46 <kakobreklaaa>	sup folks
Nov 13 13:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	this is not how people who have any business experience or any understanding of the world or intellectual maturity behave,.
Nov 13 13:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	this is behind-the-bleachers sort of teenage crap.
Nov 13 13:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	but by now i could probably write a book as to all the many countless things that were wrong with it.
Nov 13 13:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	heya kakobreklaaa
Nov 13 13:02:45 <kakobreklaaa>	how is it
Nov 13 13:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	same old.
Nov 13 13:03:05 <kakobreklaaa>	:)
Nov 13 13:03:32 <kuzetsa>	thanks mircea_popescu, that list was pretty exhaustive. better managed & more secure with a solid exit strategy :(
Nov 13 13:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Nov 13 13:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	and the funny thing is, people jumped all over mpex back in july cause "o, what happens if mpex goes away"
Nov 13 13:04:26 <mircea_popescu>	and the pr girl said AT THE TIME "now go ask glbse the same thing"
Nov 13 13:04:26 <kuzetsa>	heh
Nov 13 13:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	but people want to be dense.
Nov 13 13:04:37 <kuzetsa>	:/
Nov 13 13:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	i can dig up the quote for you if it helps anything.
Nov 13 13:04:57 <kuzetsa>	yeah. assuming that genuine concern is trolling has become too common.
Nov 13 13:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Nov 13 13:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	easy cop out too. someone says something we don't understand ? THEYRE TROLLING
Nov 13 13:05:29 <mircea_popescu>	a la usagi.
Nov 13 13:05:43 <kuzetsa>	I wouldn't know
Nov 13 13:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	you couldn't have missed that guy's stuff, it was all over the forum at some point.
Nov 13 13:06:47 <kuzetsa>	out of all the bitcointalk threads, and the freenode #bitcoin-xxx? discissions I've participated, the name usagi doesn't really stand out.
Nov 13 13:07:07 <kuzetsa>	vaguely perhaps... I dunno.
Nov 13 13:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	a well, you're blessed.
Nov 13 13:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	ask EskimoBob lol
Nov 13 13:07:56 <kuzetsa>	my skills of observation / attention span & short term memory are kinda limited. chronic symptoms from acquired brain injury I got a few years ago due to hurricane katrina (2005)
Nov 13 13:08:05 <kakobreklaaa>	btw usagi returned day or two ago
Nov 13 13:08:12 <kuzetsa>	and now I live in NY, wheee! yay for sandy lolo
Nov 13 13:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you're attracting them
Nov 13 13:08:25 <kuzetsa>	yes
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Nov 13 13:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6184 @ 0.00050006 = 3.0924 BTC [-]
Nov 13 13:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00049923 = 7.9877 BTC [-]
Nov 13 13:13:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27110 @ 0.00049913 = 13.5314 BTC [-]
Nov 13 13:13:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4309 @ 0.00049865 = 2.1487 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 13:32:18 <kakobreklaaa>	;;bc,stats
Nov 13 13:32:20 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 200134 | Current Difficulty: 2864140.507811 | Next Difficulty At Block: 201599 | Next Difficulty In: 1465 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 9 hours, 51 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3196800.71455154 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.6146608671
Nov 13 13:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14621 @ 0.00049865 = 7.2908 BTC [-]
Nov 13 13:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00049862 = 4.0139 BTC [-]
Nov 13 13:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24529 @ 0.00049851 = 12.228 BTC [-]
Nov 13 13:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 76000 @ 0.00325 = 247 BTC [-]
Nov 13 13:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 119628 @ 0.00325 = 388.791 BTC [-]
Nov 13 13:40:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 42700 @ 0.00325 = 138.775 BTC [-]
Nov 13 14:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40539 @ 0.00049922 = 20.2379 BTC [+]
Nov 13 14:06:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11379 @ 0.00050121 = 5.7033 BTC [+]
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Nov 13 14:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15521 @ 0.00049851 = 7.7374 BTC [-]
Nov 13 14:32:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10274 @ 0.00049844 = 5.121 BTC [-]
Nov 13 14:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6705 @ 0.00049796 = 3.3388 BTC [-]
Nov 13 14:33:53 <thestringpuller>	plummet my friend
Nov 13 14:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9260 @ 0.00325 = 30.095 BTC [-]
Nov 13 14:41:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 32412 @ 0.00325 = 105.339 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 15:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16852 @ 0.00049796 = 8.3916 BTC [-]
Nov 13 15:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15944 @ 0.00049792 = 7.9388 BTC [-]
Nov 13 15:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10098 @ 0.00049791 = 5.0279 BTC [-]
Nov 13 15:06:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3806 @ 0.00049761 = 1.8939 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 15:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18760 @ 0.00049761 = 9.3352 BTC [-]
Nov 13 15:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90 @ 0.00049756 = 0.0448 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 15:48:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9260 @ 0.00325 = 30.095 BTC [-]
Nov 13 15:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 740 @ 0.00339942 = 2.5156 BTC [+]
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Nov 13 16:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10860 @ 0.00049756 = 5.4035 BTC [-]
Nov 13 16:14:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2710 @ 0.0004975 = 1.3482 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 16:21:12 <flooraccount2>	I have a TurnKey Bitcoin Casino located at https://www.luckybitcoincasino.com for sale.  This website has been 100% tested, error proof,  ready to start making money and accept playing customers.  Website details:  *Lucky Bitcoin Casino is written in PHP, HTML,  and is open code. *Completely automated, requires no human intervention for processing Bitcoin payments. *Bitcoin Deposits credited within 1 hour. *Bitcoin Wi
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Nov 13 16:21:52 <flooraccount2>	https://www.luckybitcoincasino.com/contact.php
Nov 13 16:22:05 <flooraccount2>	serious inquiries only please
Nov 13 16:24:17 <BTC-Mining>	Try the OTC maybe
Nov 13 16:24:57 <BTC-Mining>	This channel is more for stocks/options and live transactions reporting by bots.
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Nov 13 16:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating flooraccount
Nov 13 16:33:23 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Nov 13 16:33:31 <mircea_popescu>	mnope.
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Nov 13 16:35:57 <flooraccount>	any live chat or just text?
Nov 13 16:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	flooraccount : you chances of selling anything for as much as 10 btc here w/o a solid wot are nil.
Nov 13 16:38:47 <flooraccount>	nice to see friendly people on the irc
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Nov 13 16:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34450 @ 0.0004975 = 17.1389 BTC [-]
Nov 13 16:39:57 <mircea_popescu>	it's what it is.
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Nov 13 17:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8046 @ 0.0004975 = 4.0029 BTC [-]
Nov 13 17:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00049738 = 5.322 BTC [-]
Nov 13 17:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 154 @ 0.00049736 = 0.0766 BTC [-]
Nov 13 17:10:56 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124093.msg1333332#msg1333332
Nov 13 17:11:18 <smickles>	might be a nice test to see if one of the largest companies in the world's lawyers think bitcoin is money
Nov 13 17:11:40 <smickles>	then again, if the lawyers look at it, they might just say no by default
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Nov 13 17:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	hehehe
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Nov 13 17:13:45 <mircea_popescu>	anyone have a link handy to that nefario-at-conference lulzgasm ?
Nov 13 17:19:02 <BTC-Mining>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmPD_YSQ--k
Nov 13 17:19:37 <jurov>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4iPCpmv678
Nov 13 17:20:18 <jurov>	lol, two different angles
Nov 13 17:20:38 <smickles>	let's make a 3d rendering of his face!
Nov 13 17:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	tyvm
Nov 13 17:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	jurov's is better : works in html5
Nov 13 17:22:01 <jurov>	it's linked from https://twitter.com/BitcoinConf2012
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Nov 13 17:23:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-conference-nobody-went-to/
Nov 13 17:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone wants re-runs
Nov 13 17:28:53 <kakobreklaaa>	beating a dead horse now?
Nov 13 17:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	yep. i'm a scholar. beatingdead horses is what i principally do.
Nov 13 17:31:36 <mod6>	:)
Nov 13 17:31:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19835 @ 0.00049736 = 9.8651 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 17:34:56 <kakobreklaaa>	a, ok.
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Nov 13 17:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.000498 = 3.0378 BTC [+]
Nov 13 18:09:20 <dub>	nefario sure sounds retarded
Nov 13 18:09:31 <dub>	not as retarded as stallman though
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Nov 13 18:10:03 <dub>	I cant run an auction denominated !usd
Nov 13 18:10:09 <dub>	what the fuck
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Nov 13 18:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.00049989 = 16.0215 BTC [+]
Nov 13 18:21:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.0004972 = 1.417 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 18:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.0004972 = 17.1037 BTC [-]
Nov 13 18:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00049711 = 3.8277 BTC [-]
Nov 13 18:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00049649 = 7.2488 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 19:12:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36597 @ 0.0004986 = 18.2473 BTC [+]
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Nov 13 19:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6436 @ 0.0004986 = 3.209 BTC [+]
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Nov 13 20:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14064 @ 0.00049776 = 7.0005 BTC [-]
Nov 13 20:02:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14686 @ 0.00050023 = 7.3464 BTC [+]
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Nov 13 20:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://fox8.com/2012/11/13/labor-fight-could-kill-off-twinkies-wonder-bread/ wow no more twinkies.
Nov 13 20:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	this is like, step 1.
Nov 13 20:16:55 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, thats end of the world shit right there
Nov 13 20:17:06 <Diablo-D3>	revolution is always 3 twinkies away
Nov 13 20:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	what's next, i wonder ? maybe no more coke ?
Nov 13 20:22:02 <Chaaang-Noi>	coke is highly proffitable
Nov 13 20:22:26 <mircea_popescu>	coca-cola i meant, not cocaine
Nov 13 20:22:27 <Chaaang-Noi>	i have family involved with hostes, they are just going to shut things down and sell off
Nov 13 20:22:39 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah coca-cola is highly profitable
Nov 13 20:22:50 <Chaaang-Noi>	its almost a momopoly and coke is sold everywhere in the west...
Nov 13 20:23:00 <Chaaang-Noi>	they can sell coke for less than they sell bottled water :/
Nov 13 20:23:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	coke is a pretty solid
Nov 13 20:23:46 <Chaaang-Noi>	i could not load your artical but i know 3 plants have been shut down cuz of the strike and they wont reopen
Nov 13 20:24:31 <Chaaang-Noi>	i dont think they will open up again, its better for them just to sell off their assets, labour costs are going to kill them
Nov 13 20:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Nov 13 20:25:50 <Chaaang-Noi>	paying people medical and retired benifits for min wage factory jobs like boxing and what not is silly, in china they do it for 20 cents a day, here in the usa its crazy like $100 a person...
Nov 13 20:26:01 <Chaaang-Noi>	im shocked they lasted as long as they have
Nov 13 20:26:45 <Diablo-D3>	http://kottke.org/12/11/scheming-boxes
Nov 13 20:26:48 <Diablo-D3>	we're fucked
Nov 13 20:27:31 <Chaaang-Noi>	d-3 if you keep them feed they will be good :)
Nov 13 20:27:36 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Nov 13 20:27:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22350 @ 0.00049649 = 11.0966 BTC [-]
Nov 13 20:27:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00049638 = 1.8366 BTC [-]
Nov 13 20:28:25 *	Diablo-D3 shoves nefario in
Nov 13 20:28:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	lol,
Nov 13 20:30:17 <Diablo-D3>	http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/buy-a-wife-from-vietnam-for-6.html
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Nov 13 20:45:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	lol
Nov 13 20:45:51 <Chaaang-Noi>	if you have to pay you are doing it wrong...
Nov 13 20:46:21 <Chaaang-Noi>	girls there will pay you to marry them, i bet the "match maker" is taking 6000$ from both sides, lol
Nov 13 20:47:49 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: you know
Nov 13 20:48:08 <Diablo-D3>	Im surprised there isnt jew/asian-style matchmaking prevelent in the US
Nov 13 20:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27685 @ 0.00050023 = 13.8489 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00050025 = 8.054 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16109 @ 0.00050121 = 8.074 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40700 @ 0.00050136 = 20.4054 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.00050147 = 19.3317 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46100 @ 0.00050187 = 23.1362 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34850 @ 0.00050252 = 17.5128 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11080 @ 0.00050254 = 5.5681 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51924 @ 0.00050355 = 26.1463 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17907 @ 0.00050381 = 9.0217 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12495 @ 0.00050496 = 6.3095 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:48:55 <Chaaang-Noi>	$6000 is high, in thailand thats way to much
Nov 13 20:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how long till the first glbse bride buying company
Nov 13 20:49:23 <Chaaang-Noi>	people in the west think of this as human trafficing but its normal part of the culture
Nov 13 20:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	o wait. no more glbse.
Nov 13 20:49:36 <Chaaang-Noi>	glbse is coming back in a legal verson :)
Nov 13 20:50:17 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: yeah, its not human trafficing if the women consent
Nov 13 20:50:20 <Diablo-D3>	its just weird
Nov 13 20:50:40 <Chaaang-Noi>	well... conset is not really a concept women have over here...
Nov 13 20:50:53 <Chaaang-Noi>	they do what they are told by father/husband...
Nov 13 20:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	much more natural.
Nov 13 20:51:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8005 @ 0.00050496 = 4.0422 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:51:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54058 @ 0.00050517 = 27.3085 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:51:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26283 @ 0.0005074 = 13.336 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:51:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00050764 = 6.3709 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69800 @ 0.00050773 = 35.4396 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00050829 = 12.7581 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:51:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18304 @ 0.00050831 = 9.3041 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:51:44 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I mean they havent been picked up off the street and stored in cages
Nov 13 20:51:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00050866 = 6.3074 BTC [+]
Nov 13 20:51:46 <Chaaang-Noi>	in norhtern thailand for a group of people they sell their daughters into marrage for 40,000 baht as a high average, thats about $1,300 usd
Nov 13 20:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 you're thinking Austria.
Nov 13 20:52:23 <Chaaang-Noi>	lol that guy...
Nov 13 20:52:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	built is own sex dungan...
Nov 13 20:53:54 <Diablo-D3>	yeah really, I dont get the point of a sex dungeon
Nov 13 20:53:58 <Chaaang-Noi>	waht does a romanian virgin go for mircea or is there not a market anymore?
Nov 13 20:54:02 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, if you're into kinky shit, thats fine
Nov 13 20:54:22 <Diablo-D3>	but why keep her tied up when you can just have her prance around the house naked
Nov 13 20:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	Chaaang-Noi there's no more virgins.
Nov 13 20:55:40 <Chaaang-Noi>	fucked before birth eh?
Nov 13 20:55:50 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 why not ? a little alone time always halps.
Nov 13 20:56:18 <copumpkin>	moo
Nov 13 20:56:22 <Chaaang-Noi>	i saw a jap cartoon comic once where a baby was fucked before birth... japs are twisted...
Nov 13 20:56:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	hey copumpkin, its almost pumkin pie time, you gots to hide?
Nov 13 20:56:52 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I meant between erections.
Nov 13 20:56:54 <copumpkin>	I survived halloween
Nov 13 20:57:01 <copumpkin>	those trying to carve me did not
Nov 13 20:57:04 <Diablo-D3>	since, clearly, women are only useful for cooking, cleaning, and sex.
Nov 13 20:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	get out, my slavegirls make better conversation partners than most of you.
Nov 13 20:57:28 <Chaaang-Noi>	D3 they are good for watching offspring...
Nov 13 20:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	they also play bridge and poker, and do other fun stuff.
Nov 13 20:57:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	slave girls can do fun stuff? :)
Nov 13 20:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	they can shoot, for one.
Nov 13 20:57:59 <Chaaang-Noi>	tell me more! lol
Nov 13 20:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	also, drive...
Nov 13 20:58:05 <copumpkin>	they ride upside-down on the front of his car, like gord
Nov 13 20:58:09 <copumpkin>	with a ball-gag
Nov 13 20:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 13 20:58:31 <Chaaang-Noi>	can they pull a cart? :)
Nov 13 20:58:34 <Diablo-D3>	copumpkin: hey, it takes skills to hang off the front of a car using nothing but their pussy and the hood ordiment
Nov 13 20:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	they still can't cook better than me tho
Nov 13 20:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	ordiment lol
Nov 13 20:58:57 <copumpkin>	http://alterpic.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/invertedtruck-143.jpg
Nov 13 20:59:05 <copumpkin>	no ball-gag there
Nov 13 20:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	Chaaang-Noi yes, they can. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/test-de-cultura-vizuala-8/
Nov 13 20:59:27 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: seriously though, you dont have slavegirls, you have multiple wives
Nov 13 20:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Nov 13 21:00:01 <Diablo-D3>	because they probably could kill you at any point they wished.
Nov 13 21:00:36 <Chaaang-Noi>	i have myself been woried of an uprising...
Nov 13 21:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	what sort of retarded argument is that lmao.
Nov 13 21:00:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	just make it so you are worth more to them alive than dead :)
Nov 13 21:01:07 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: what, you dont think slaves have ever beaten their masters?
Nov 13 21:01:19 <Diablo-D3>	* 15 minutes later, mircea is locked up in his own dungeon *
Nov 13 21:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	how's the general relevant ?
Nov 13 21:01:32 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: do you accept slave applications? I need a master
Nov 13 21:01:36 <copumpkin>	I've been a very bad boy
Nov 13 21:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	haha, there's much you don't know about obedience young grasshobbler.
Nov 13 21:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin i don't do bois.
Nov 13 21:01:47 <copumpkin>	oh, I know
Nov 13 21:01:51 <Chaaang-Noi>	copumpin    wtf is gord doing... i mean why is gord doing that... how can that be a fetish?
Nov 13 21:01:51 <copumpkin>	I want to learn though
Nov 13 21:01:53 <copumpkin>	oh :(
Nov 13 21:02:05 <copumpkin>	Chaaang-Noi: search for "house of gord" and see all the other good stuff he does
Nov 13 21:02:11 <copumpkin>	and they pay him to do that, I think
Nov 13 21:02:14 <copumpkin>	or something
Nov 13 21:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	it's GOURD you know!
Nov 13 21:02:24 <copumpkin>	oh shit, mircea_popescu knows my secret
Nov 13 21:02:28 <copumpkin>	he must be silenced
Nov 13 21:02:38 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: seriously though, chicks who are into that are into that because they're into that
Nov 13 21:02:42 <copumpkin>	Chaaang-Noi: he has a pretty sweet chariot made from a couple of women
Nov 13 21:02:42 <Diablo-D3>	nothing more, nothing less
Nov 13 21:02:53 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah i saw that chariot thing...
Nov 13 21:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 right... so ?
Nov 13 21:03:29 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well, you make it sound like you're some sort of king of a nation here
Nov 13 21:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't aware i was. no, not really. just a few womenz.
Nov 13 21:04:02 <Diablo-D3>	'just a few"
Nov 13 21:04:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	d3 its not that hard to set up in some part of the world
Nov 13 21:04:32 <Chaaang-Noi>	having a few girls is not odd at all in thailand...
Nov 13 21:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure what the part of the world has to do with anything.
Nov 13 21:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	there's a new invention now called the interwebs
Nov 13 21:04:42 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: I dont see the point, really
Nov 13 21:04:46 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like a truck.
Nov 13 21:05:01 <Diablo-D3>	no, its like a bunch of boobs, er, tubes!
Nov 13 21:05:07 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 if you're much smarter than people in general you get to pick some people to own. it's really that simple.
Nov 13 21:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	if you don't want to, you don't have to.
Nov 13 21:05:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	i think it would be more difficult to get the average american girl to do the same as the average thai girl...
Nov 13 21:05:35 <Chaaang-Noi>	hell in the usa you cant buy a girl for $2000...
Nov 13 21:05:44 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, american girls think they rule the house
Nov 13 21:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	i still don't understand why'd you pay.
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Nov 13 21:05:59 <Diablo-D3>	jewish women? yes. asian women? yes. american women? hell no.
Nov 13 21:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 : i certainly has moar mericanz than azns
Nov 13 21:06:03 <Chaaang-Noi>	in thailand the girls grow up expecting to be sold one day...
Nov 13 21:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	as per usual, stereotypes be wrong.
Nov 13 21:06:39 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: so how hard would it be to cause a revolution in thailand?
Nov 13 21:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	didn't thailand have a king ?
Nov 13 21:06:56 <Chaaang-Noi>	revolution? to accomplish what goal?
Nov 13 21:07:05 <Chaaang-Noi>	Thailand has a King and a very very strong Army...
Nov 13 21:07:12 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: all the women become mine.
Nov 13 21:07:23 <mircea_popescu>	haha his name is Bhumibol
Nov 13 21:07:30 <Chaaang-Noi>	just save some cash D3 and you can have more than you need/want
Nov 13 21:07:42 <Diablo-D3>	can I buy them with bitcoins?
Nov 13 21:07:47 <Diablo-D3>	....
Nov 13 21:07:49 <Diablo-D3>	huh.
Nov 13 21:07:59 <Diablo-D3>	fuck, why is glbse down :<
Nov 13 21:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	His personal wealth is tremendous: Forbes estimated Bhumibol's personal fortune, including property managed by the Crown Property Bureau which is considered national property,[9] to be US$30 billion in 2010
Nov 13 21:08:17 <mircea_popescu>	i guess you need 31 bn.
Nov 13 21:08:21 <Diablo-D3>	$30b and most of it isnt his?
Nov 13 21:08:26 <Diablo-D3>	bwhaha what a loser
Nov 13 21:08:46 <Chaaang-Noi>	i think its more than 30 billion
Nov 13 21:09:10 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow
Nov 13 21:09:35 <Diablo-D3>	all I want is a woman who can cook, clean, is good in bed, is intelligent, and actually understands what a marriage is
Nov 13 21:09:59 <Diablo-D3>	Im not particularly sure what the hell happened in america that women actively try to destroy their own marriages
Nov 13 21:10:30 <Chaaang-Noi>	once you go asian you wont go back...
Nov 13 21:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 well, the good ones left long ago.
Nov 13 21:10:39 <Chaaang-Noi>	they are the win...
Nov 13 21:11:05 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: yeah, but asians have that problem with small breasts
Nov 13 21:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	and small cunts and small statures and etc.
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Nov 13 21:14:29 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs
Nov 13 21:14:30 <Diablo-D3>	I like tits.
Nov 13 21:14:46 <smickles>	< Diablo-D3> all I want is a woman who can cook, clean, is good in bed, is intelligent, and actually  understands what a marriage is <<< stay away from my wife u
Nov 13 21:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Nov 13 21:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	stupid women are never good in bed anyway.
Nov 13 21:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	you can pretty much use the later as a test.
Nov 13 21:15:29 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: but thats all there seems to be
Nov 13 21:15:41 <Diablo-D3>	like, Im not going to be one of these assholes who claim all american women are femnazis
Nov 13 21:15:44 <Diablo-D3>	because its not true
Nov 13 21:15:55 <Diablo-D3>	they just have a very strange view of what a relationship is
Nov 13 21:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23727 @ 0.00049638 = 11.7776 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 21:17:22 <Diablo-D3>	like, they marry a guy, the guy isnt cheating on her, works his ass off every day for a shitty wage, etc etc
Nov 13 21:17:31 <Diablo-D3>	and then she divorces him for cheating.
Nov 13 21:17:56 <Diablo-D3>	and then it comes out that she was cheating on him, but still gets to steal his house, car, kids, etc, and gets him fired from his job
Nov 13 21:19:07 <Diablo-D3>	this is from a country that married couples are supposed to be equal partners
Nov 13 21:20:37 <mircea_popescu>	i lolled my ass of at the entire petraeus thing
Nov 13 21:21:30 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, that was retarded
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Nov 13 21:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... the most pathetic affair ever to begin with.
Nov 13 21:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	"ooo, they read draft emails by logging into the same acct"
Nov 13 21:23:49 <Diablo-D3>	Im not even sure if its even an affair
Nov 13 21:24:01 <Diablo-D3>	did either of them have sex with each other? nope. so wheres the affair?
Nov 13 21:24:32 <Diablo-D3>	I think this was some sort of operation by the pentagon or white house to get rid of petraeus for some other reason
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Nov 13 21:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	like they got rid of all the rest of the top of the military
Nov 13 21:26:46 <Diablo-D3>	well, it wont matter come dec 21st anyhow
Nov 13 21:26:50 <mircea_popescu>	being the "second most influential American conservative" prolly didn't help
Nov 13 21:31:04 <Chaaang-Noi>	d3 yeah most have small tits but not all, you can also fix that... but with small tits they have other things that are small :)
Nov 13 21:31:26 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: fixing it usually isnt worth it
Nov 13 21:31:30 <Diablo-D3>	Im not a fan of breast implants
Nov 13 21:31:35 <Diablo-D3>	I prefer 100% organic women
Nov 13 21:31:36 <Chaaang-Noi>	im not either
Nov 13 21:31:59 <Chaaang-Noi>	i like the firmness more than size so im fine with asians...
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Nov 13 21:32:37 <Chaaang-Noi>	mircea the petraeus thing im sure is just a cover up for him fucking up so bad in libiya...
Nov 13 21:32:42 <abracadabra>	heh
Nov 13 21:32:47 <abracadabra>	organix
Nov 13 21:32:50 <Diablo-D3>	libya
Nov 13 21:33:09 <Chaaang-Noi>	he let the ambasador get killed... no one would respect him
Nov 13 21:33:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	he had to leave and they cant say cuz he is incompitent...
Nov 13 21:33:33 <Chaaang-Noi>	so they say he fucked around...
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Nov 13 21:33:36 <mircea_popescu>	maybe. tho the us has absolutely no competent intel people
Nov 13 21:33:36 <mircea_popescu>	ditching the few barely competent doesn't seem like much of a plan.
Nov 13 21:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	actually, at the current rate the afghani secret service is prolly owning us ss
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Nov 13 21:33:59 <Diablo-D3>	war is pointless anyhow
Nov 13 21:34:04 <Diablo-D3>	it uses up precious resources that we cant afford to spend
Nov 13 21:34:09 <Chaaang-Noi>	i think on average the cia and others do a very good job
Nov 13 21:34:22 <Chaaang-Noi>	after all we got rid of kadafii :)
Nov 13 21:34:33 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: actually
Nov 13 21:34:36 <Diablo-D3>	his own people did
Nov 13 21:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	you gotta be kidding.
Nov 13 21:34:43 <Diablo-D3>	we tried to take credit for the uprising
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Nov 13 21:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	thirty years ago the us sucked, but at least it was part of the 2nd echelon
Nov 13 21:34:56 <Diablo-D3>	all we did was provide a much needed eye in the sky, we had no action on the ground
Nov 13 21:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	today it's like... nowhere to be seen
Nov 13 21:35:00 <Chaaang-Noi>	his own people? you know the ambasador was there trying to get back the arms we give "his people"
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Nov 13 21:35:21 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: you mean the arms the russian sold to them in the 80s and 90s
Nov 13 21:35:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	oh d3, you dont seem well informed on this isue...
Nov 13 21:35:43 <Chaaang-Noi>	issue
Nov 13 21:35:45 <Diablo-D3>	russia has been trying to overthrow quadaffi for years because he was just a puppet for the US
Nov 13 21:35:54 <Chaaang-Noi>	lol
Nov 13 21:36:06 <Chaaang-Noi>	thats why he bombed wester airliners and discos?
Nov 13 21:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Nov 13 21:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	well.. he did offer to buy condolezza rice on the cheap...
Nov 13 21:36:39 <Diablo-D3>	lol damaged goods
Nov 13 21:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28477 @ 0.00049629 = 14.1329 BTC [-]
Nov 13 21:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7105 @ 0.00049616 = 3.5252 BTC [-]
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Nov 13 21:44:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0004983 = 13.205 BTC [+]
Nov 13 21:47:07 <BTC-Mining>	Who's that Joel Katz anyway?
Nov 13 21:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	afaik some computer geek.
Nov 13 21:48:13 <smickles>	http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Wikipedia
Nov 13 21:48:52 <BTC-Mining>	Well, maybe you could tell me what you think of the latest development, MP
Nov 13 21:49:13 <mircea_popescu>	link me ?
Nov 13 21:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	smickles lol
Nov 13 21:49:59 <BTC-Mining>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1333809#msg1333809
Nov 13 21:50:21 <smickles>	:)
Nov 13 21:51:09 <BTC-Mining>	I'm challenging that people who deposit were investing at all in Patrick's business, because the profits (difference between deposit rate/loan rate) are not shared, and neither should losses.
Nov 13 21:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	he seems to be just repeating the same thing.
Nov 13 21:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	what was the count, 40something times.
Nov 13 21:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see how his stuff can be taken seriously.
Nov 13 21:52:37 <BTC-Mining>	Well everyone is free to have their opinion. I just find that for his statement of:
Nov 13 21:52:43 <BTC-Mining>	"I did. I argued that this case is different because both Patrick and those who invested with him made precisely the same mistake."
Nov 13 21:53:32 <BTC-Mining>	He does not argue much about why it is their common mistake other than they're coinvesting in the same business.
Nov 13 21:53:39 <mircea_popescu>	ya well. he keeps saying that. it doesn't seem to mean anything in particular tho.
Nov 13 21:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol. did you actually read the whole thread ?
Nov 13 21:54:18 <BTC-Mining>	Most of it. I had been following it.
Nov 13 21:54:44 <BTC-Mining>	"I did. I argued that this case is different because both Patrick and those who invested with him made precisely the same mistake." could almost be considered equivalent to
Nov 13 21:54:57 <BTC-Mining>	"I did. I argued that this case is different because this case is different."
Nov 13 21:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	ya, what can i tell you.
Nov 13 21:55:12 <mircea_popescu>	"everyone knows/knew" etc.
Nov 13 21:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	"drinking water is impossible"
Nov 13 21:55:29 <mircea_popescu>	he has a list.
Nov 13 21:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i'm for bed. tty laters.
Nov 13 21:56:06 <BTC-Mining>	His actual motive however seems to convince people to stop giving their funds to everyone coming to the forum requesting so and guaranteeing any kind of interest.
Nov 13 21:56:22 <BTC-Mining>	Pretty much blaming them for doing it and being conned.
Nov 13 21:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	i seriously doubt that.
Nov 13 21:56:35 <BTC-Mining>	It's the feeling I get.
Nov 13 21:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	his motive is trying to project some importance he doesn't have, and protect his buddy.
Nov 13 21:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway. tomorro is another day.
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Nov 13 21:57:18 <BTC-Mining>	oh well.
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Nov 14 00:42:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16827 @ 0.00050114 = 8.4327 BTC [-]
Nov 14 01:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00050417 = 3.1259 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 02:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5228 @ 0.00050175 = 2.6231 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 02:49:09 <EskimoBob>	to continue your last night "wife from asia" blaa blaa http://oi47.tinypic.com/13za1rk.jpg
Nov 14 02:49:23 <EskimoBob>	even that fat fuck had to pay .. LOL
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Nov 14 02:51:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33324 @ 0.00050175 = 16.7203 BTC [+]
Nov 14 02:51:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13176 @ 0.00050185 = 6.6124 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 02:57:45 <OffTopic>	do do
Nov 14 02:57:45 <OffTopic>	dod
Nov 14 02:57:46 <OffTopic>	do
Nov 14 02:57:46 <OffTopic>	dod
Nov 14 02:57:47 <OffTopic>	o
Nov 14 02:57:47 <OffTopic>	dod
Nov 14 02:57:48 <OffTopic>	do
Nov 14 02:57:48 <OffTopic>	do
Nov 14 02:57:49 <OffTopic>	do
Nov 14 02:57:49 <OffTopic>	do
Nov 14 02:57:50 <OffTopic>	do
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Nov 14 03:01:04 <dub>	that is one dumb kid
Nov 14 03:01:10 <dub>	and I have seen my share
Nov 14 03:01:21 *	kakobrekla sets ban on OffTopic!*@84.19.165.220
Nov 14 03:01:21 *	kakobrekla has kicked OffTopic from #bitcoin-assets (pft!)
Nov 14 03:02:08 <Diablo-D3>	not that again
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Nov 14 03:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20824 @ 0.00050185 = 10.4505 BTC [+]
Nov 14 03:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14176 @ 0.00050417 = 7.1471 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 03:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12778 @ 0.00050157 = 6.4091 BTC [-]
Nov 14 03:54:58 <BTC-Mining>	Hmm... fun debate with Joel Katz.
Nov 14 03:55:34 <EskimoBob>	what is this retards problem?
Nov 14 03:55:47 <EskimoBob>	 CTCP requested by OffTopic: PING 90689651 (blocked) <- this retard
Nov 14 03:57:20 <BTC-Mining>	No idea. Judging by his username, being OffTopic.
Nov 14 03:57:41 <BTC-Mining>	I think it was a success. Very OffTopic-y.
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Nov 14 04:04:24 <EskimoBob>	ever wonder what is going on in this type of morons heads?
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Nov 14 04:04:42 <Diablo-D3>	well, I cant imagine it being very much
Nov 14 04:04:58 <EskimoBob>	mostly noise
Nov 14 04:05:03 <Diablo-D3>	unless hes a two level kind of guy, then its a lot, but then he might be a three level guy thinking we're two level guys, and its not very much
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Nov 14 04:06:54 <EskimoBob>	two level?
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Nov 14 04:56:06 <kakobreklaaa>	https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21897_492615970782765_1019824609_n.jpg
Nov 14 04:59:34 <kakobreklaaa>	yay scalipn is ez, made 3 good trades today :)
Nov 14 05:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4420 @ 0.00050229 = 2.2201 BTC [+]
Nov 14 05:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21983 @ 0.00050417 = 11.0832 BTC [+]
Nov 14 05:02:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11847 @ 0.00050782 = 6.0161 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 05:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00050157 = 8.9781 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 05:53:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11776 @ 0.00050878 = 5.9914 BTC [+]
Nov 14 05:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12671 @ 0.00050878 = 6.4468 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 06:00:39 <Chaaang-Noi>	http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/29064123
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Nov 14 06:03:40 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: yeah, some guy keeps doing negative bitcoin posts on /g/
Nov 14 06:03:43 <Diablo-D3>	which is pretty smart
Nov 14 06:03:52 <Diablo-D3>	it keeps people thinking about bitcoin
Nov 14 06:03:56 <Diablo-D3>	and innoculates them against fucktards
Nov 14 06:04:06 <Chaaang-Noi>	thai people cant post on /g/  i used to post there...
Nov 14 06:04:18 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Nov 14 06:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	what's /g/
Nov 14 06:04:28 *	mircea_popescu puts on his newb hat
Nov 14 06:04:31 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: technology
Nov 14 06:04:35 <Chaaang-Noi>	Chaaang-Noi> http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/29064123
Nov 14 06:04:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	you joined just after i linked
Nov 14 06:04:45 <mircea_popescu>	the only thing nerds will ever have in common with the g spot
Nov 14 06:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	is /g/
Nov 14 06:04:56 <Diablo-D3>	I think thats the joke
Nov 14 06:04:59 <Chaaang-Noi>	no such thing as g spot, lulz
Nov 14 06:05:15 <kakobreklaaa>	Chaaang-Noi, you nerd.
Nov 14 06:05:22 <Diablo-D3>	lol Chaaang-Noi is a virgin
Nov 14 06:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	>try to purchase buttcoin from notorious buttcoin market
Nov 14 06:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	>next day bank phone me
Nov 14 06:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	>tells me I'm being scanned
Nov 14 06:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	>they blocked my money
Nov 14 06:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	That concludes my experience with bitcoin.
Nov 14 06:05:33 <Chaaang-Noi>	i never claimed to not be a nerd, however virgin is lulz
Nov 14 06:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	this sounds pretty much like it.
Nov 14 06:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	sheepsies will be kept out of it for a long, long time simply by this.
Nov 14 06:06:03 <mircea_popescu>	kinda why i think all the attempts to get bitcoin interestying to the consumer/retail markets are dumb.
Nov 14 06:06:17 <Chaaang-Noi>	i had a bad experiance with gox... if it was my first experiance with btc id never come back
Nov 14 06:06:18 <Diablo-D3>	well, notice he doesnt say which bank or which exchange
Nov 14 06:06:20 <Diablo-D3>	so hes just a troll
Nov 14 06:06:22 <Chaaang-Noi>	gox is so bad for btc...
Nov 14 06:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	you work your ass off to make buttcoin friday, the banks just piss on you with one line of code.
Nov 14 06:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	bye.
Nov 14 06:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 he's no troll. it's just that's ALL banks and ALL exchanges.
Nov 14 06:06:50 <Chaaang-Noi>	is bitcoin friday every friday or just that once?
Nov 14 06:06:51 <mircea_popescu>	for the average consumer.
Nov 14 06:06:53 <Diablo-D3>	my bank has never had problems
Nov 14 06:07:05 <mircea_popescu>	ya but you're possibly not the random idiot who picked a random bank
Nov 14 06:07:27 <Diablo-D3>	no, I use HSBC.
Nov 14 06:07:33 <Chaaang-Noi>	mt gox demanded so much shit from me after they froze my account...
Nov 14 06:07:35 <Diablo-D3>	one of the largest banks in the world.
Nov 14 06:07:43 <Chaaang-Noi>	called me a terrorist...
Nov 14 06:07:50 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: they didnt.
Nov 14 06:07:52 <Diablo-D3>	the US government did.
Nov 14 06:08:10 <Diablo-D3>	and technically they called you a druglord, not a terrorist
Nov 14 06:08:15 <Chaaang-Noi>	nope, he said he had proof i was a "terrorest or a money launder" and he quoted japanese law
Nov 14 06:08:28 <Diablo-D3>	Chaaang-Noi: I really doubt he said that
Nov 14 06:08:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	he used the word terrorist on the forum
Nov 14 06:08:38 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Nov 14 06:08:41 <Diablo-D3>	well, you're a goat.
Nov 14 06:08:48 <Diablo-D3>	they strap bombs to goats and shit
Nov 14 06:08:48 <Chaaang-Noi>	im not kidding
Nov 14 06:09:05 <Chaaang-Noi>	on the forum he said he had "proof" of me being a "terrorist or a money launder"
Nov 14 06:09:06 <Diablo-D3>	why waste women when you can blow up goats instead
Nov 14 06:09:08 <Diablo-D3>	or camels
Nov 14 06:09:13 <Diablo-D3>	or empty tents
Nov 14 06:09:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	it was mark
Nov 14 06:09:46 *	Diablo-D3 blows up Chaaang-Noi 
Nov 14 06:09:54 <Chaaang-Noi>	after sending shit like marrage certifiacate and having my lawyer contact them to tell them i was going to sue theuir ass they gave me the money back
Nov 14 06:10:02 <Chaaang-Noi>	fucking mt gox
Nov 14 06:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	i never used them.
Nov 14 06:10:56 <Chaaang-Noi>	dont, its not worth it
Nov 14 06:11:33 <mircea_popescu>	early on i was like tux, link mpoe on your site
Nov 14 06:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	he was like blablabla
Nov 14 06:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	i was like.... -.-
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Nov 14 06:11:51 <Diablo-D3>	I used mtgox before magicaltux got it
Nov 14 06:12:07 <Diablo-D3>	Ive never had problems with them
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Nov 14 06:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	i guess people just don't grasp how this works. had about the same exchange with the weusecoins dood
Nov 14 06:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	i was hey, link mpex
Nov 14 06:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	he was like send us id!!
Nov 14 06:15:30 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well, if Im trying to run a legit site
Nov 14 06:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like... so fuck you, in case one day you ask something of me i'ma make you send me shoe on your wife's tits pics.
Nov 14 06:15:32 <Diablo-D3>	I link to no one.
Nov 14 06:15:34 <Diablo-D3>	period.
Nov 14 06:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	weusecoins exists to link to people.
Nov 14 06:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	afaik
Nov 14 06:16:13 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Nov 14 06:16:20 <Diablo-D3>	so wtf is his problem
Nov 14 06:16:53 <mircea_popescu>	that's the problem with btc, a buncha doofuses think they're hot shit.
Nov 14 06:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	nefario, that other idiot on welfare, theymos, pretty much all of them
Nov 14 06:17:08 <Chaaang-Noi>	like intersango guys?
Nov 14 06:17:14 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah theymos
Nov 14 06:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	some random joes off the street, never saw money toghether, never ran a business
Nov 14 06:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	somehow they think through the magical power of buttcoin they suddenly became important in the world
Nov 14 06:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	except... they're not.
Nov 14 06:17:38 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah, its sad
Nov 14 06:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	nor will they be, at this rate.
Nov 14 06:18:50 <Chaaang-Noi>	iv lost some faith in btc once i saw who the "leaders" where
Nov 14 06:18:52 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, I hate people like that
Nov 14 06:18:56 <Diablo-D3>	they ruined bitcoin imo
Nov 14 06:19:03 <Diablo-D3>	I liked what it was when I started
Nov 14 06:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	it's like, dood, you're a twenty something student guy ? stfu and serve.
Nov 14 06:19:10 <Diablo-D3>	a bunch of people who wanted to make the world better
Nov 14 06:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	ruined it my ass.
Nov 14 06:19:17 <Diablo-D3>	now its just a bunch of scamartists
Nov 14 06:19:29 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin can't be ruined is the thing.
Nov 14 06:19:39 <Diablo-D3>	no, but the community can be toxic
Nov 14 06:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	what they're trying to do is practically speaking whale riding. sure, it'll work for five minutes
Nov 14 06:19:50 <mircea_popescu>	then you get killed.
Nov 14 06:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9622 @ 0.00050157 = 4.8261 BTC [-]
Nov 14 06:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13528 @ 0.00050087 = 6.7758 BTC [-]
Nov 14 06:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	and then you have the other sort of idiot : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123849.0
Nov 14 06:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	you fuck up. someone points it out. what do you do ?
Nov 14 06:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	either ignore it or claim they're "spreading fud"
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Nov 14 06:24:32 <mircea_popescu>	i clearly fucking remember nefario in this very channel saying "o it's not true" TO THE EXACT THING
Nov 14 06:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	that closed him down three weeks later.
Nov 14 06:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... pfff.
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Nov 14 06:40:35 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I still think the shit with DMC was just a delay tactic
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Nov 14 06:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2202 @ 0.00050072 = 1.1026 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 07:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6864 @ 0.00050282 = 3.4514 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 07:36:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19516 @ 0.00050072 = 9.7721 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 08:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3949 @ 0.00050072 = 1.9773 BTC [-]
Nov 14 08:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32601 @ 0.00049957 = 16.2865 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 08:24:40 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: probably not but it gave James a good idea hwo to drop this pile of shit he was sitting on and pocket few coins while divorcing from this project for good
Nov 14 08:26:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9230 @ 0.00049957 = 4.611 BTC [-]
Nov 14 08:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5216 @ 0.00049857 = 2.6005 BTC [-]
Nov 14 08:28:28 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: no matter ow many times you are attempting to make it look/sound like that someone else fucked up your DMC (oops, not yours, you sold it to investors) we all know that the all the ridiculously stupid investment decisions where made by you :)
Nov 14 08:29:27 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: the only stupid investment decision I made was thinking nefario wasnt a scammer
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Nov 14 08:40:44 <Diablo-D3>	http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13375357/android-usermanager-isuseragoat
Nov 14 08:41:22 <Diablo-D3>	apparently android supports Chaang-Noi now
Nov 14 08:43:53 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Nov 14 08:46:42 <Chaang-Noi>	http://xkcd.com/1134/
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Nov 14 08:52:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16420 @ 0.00050282 = 8.2563 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 08:54:04 <EskimoBob>	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/9051352/Pictures-of-the-day-31-January-2012.html?image=3
Nov 14 08:54:20 <EskimoBob>	Meet the surfing goat ...
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Nov 14 09:03:29 <Diablo-D3>	heh
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Nov 14 09:09:17 <Chaang-Noi>	i should buy a real goat...
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Nov 14 09:13:04 <EskimoBob>	not that shit again .... http://exchange.zapto.org/node/12
Nov 14 09:13:31 <EskimoBob>	I have no coin there but I guess some people do
Nov 14 09:16:07 <Diablo-D3>	.......
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Nov 14 09:16:53 <EskimoBob>	probably nothing but stuff like that just smells really bad, like GLBSE
Nov 14 09:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25016 @ 0.00050282 = 12.5785 BTC [+]
Nov 14 09:18:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23334 @ 0.00050496 = 11.7827 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 09:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6915 @ 0.00050496 = 3.4918 BTC [+]
Nov 14 09:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7335 @ 0.00050522 = 3.7058 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 10:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38012 @ 0.00049857 = 18.9516 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 10:36:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64 @ 0.00049857 = 0.0319 BTC [-]
Nov 14 10:36:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34976 @ 0.00049853 = 17.4366 BTC [-]
Nov 14 10:36:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11831 @ 0.00049826 = 5.8949 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 11:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11069 @ 0.00049826 = 5.5152 BTC [-]
Nov 14 11:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00049803 = 17.2816 BTC [-]
Nov 14 11:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4031 @ 0.00049799 = 2.0074 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 11:27:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00049936 = 12.0346 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 11:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31716 @ 0.00050011 = 15.8615 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 12:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31065 @ 0.00050522 = 15.6947 BTC [+]
Nov 14 12:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14435 @ 0.00050609 = 7.3054 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 12:25:00 <thestringpuller>	jurov: why is coinbr down?
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Nov 14 12:43:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5384 @ 0.00050489 = 2.7183 BTC [-]
Nov 14 12:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14554 @ 0.00049936 = 7.2677 BTC [-]
Nov 14 12:43:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00049876 = 2.3442 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 12:58:43 <thestringpuller>	I will pay you extra Jurov to have interns
Nov 14 12:58:44 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 14 13:01:47 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Nov 14 13:02:03 <thestringpuller>	and who da fuck keeps buying out all the options
Nov 14 13:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00049799 = 10.1092 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 13:34:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23019 @ 0.00049799 = 11.4632 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 13:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11119 @ 0.0004979 = 5.5362 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 14:27:05 <smickles>	is this enough proof https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75802.msg1334847#msg1334847
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Nov 14 14:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00049731 = 14.0987 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 15:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	<EskimoBob> Diablo-D3: probably not but it gave James a good idea hwo to drop this pile of shit he was sitting on and pocket few coins while divorcing from this project for good <<< this may actually be true.
Nov 14 15:03:06 <mircea_popescu>	one can certainly see a diablo > goat > total failure progression.
Nov 14 15:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	lucidlepidoptera how's the virtual eatery business going ?
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Nov 14 15:15:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39155 @ 0.00049704 = 19.4616 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 15:28:23 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: were you insinuating btcpantry will fail?
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Nov 14 15:30:08 <mircea_popescu>	i was ?
Nov 14 15:34:52 <thestringpuller>	how is the options emporium doing?
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Nov 14 15:39:19 <mircea_popescu>	same old, same old.
Nov 14 15:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23862 @ 0.00049804 = 11.8842 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 15:45:54 <EskimoBob>	... but I still believe that after he receives the flowers, he is going to pull through and make us all happy
Nov 14 15:46:05 <EskimoBob>	just for lulz happy
Nov 14 15:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	i would like to see a documentary about how these idiots date.
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Nov 14 15:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining i see you've started using different colors. i'm curious if that helps.
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Nov 14 16:05:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11785 @ 0.00049815 = 5.8707 BTC [+]
Nov 14 16:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14395 @ 0.00049795 = 7.168 BTC [-]
Nov 14 16:05:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23686 @ 0.00049697 = 11.7712 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 16:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14996 @ 0.0004968 = 7.45 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 16:55:13 <jurov>	fuck. first day after a loong time i get to a wilderness trip without internat, and of course bitvps has to choose this day to fuck up. for 12 hours!!!
Nov 14 16:55:21 <jurov>	*internet
Nov 14 16:55:53 <jurov>	like rg is stalking me or what
Nov 14 16:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	how's it fucked up ?
Nov 14 16:57:03 <jurov>	coinbr.com was 12hrs inaccessible today
Nov 14 16:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	i see it atm.
Nov 14 16:57:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00049945 = 23.6739 BTC [+]
Nov 14 16:57:42 <jurov>	yes, now i came up,all my hair rose, but everything is like nothing happened
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Nov 14 16:58:50 <jurov>	and there's no announcement on bitvps, nothing in the email (except fould cries "i cant connect" from backup routine)
Nov 14 16:58:53 <jurov>	*foul
Nov 14 17:00:35 <jurov>	from them I can see the problem was at least between 7am-7pm UTC
Nov 14 17:01:03 <jurov>	and of course, inquiries of customers
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Nov 14 17:10:12 <jurov>	thestringpuller, you'll gonna pay me interns?
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Nov 14 17:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00050006 = 4.7256 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 17:32:47 <mircea_popescu>	haha better spitroast rg
Nov 14 17:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Nov 14 17:34:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00049588 / 0.00050116 / 0.00050878 (2183612 shares, 1,094.34 BTC), 30day: 0.00040587 / 0.00046544 / 0.00051331 (61576875 shares, 28,660.40 BTC)
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Nov 14 17:37:35 <jurov>	just wrote flaming bitvps ticket, can finally shower
Nov 14 17:38:45 <jurov>	pity that people dislike smoke smell from open fire... i'd keep wearing it like a perfume if i could
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Nov 14 17:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol what are you, beef jerky ?
Nov 14 17:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10577 @ 0.00050418 = 5.3327 BTC [+]
Nov 14 17:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00050113 = 1.4282 BTC [-]
Nov 14 17:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00050056 = 7.3332 BTC [-]
Nov 14 17:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23023 @ 0.00049945 = 11.4988 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 18:03:11 <pigeons>	mmmm beef jerky
Nov 14 18:03:58 <pigeons>	must be a certain datacenter that went down, i'm connecting from bitvps and am still authed with gribble etc
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Nov 14 18:08:54 <jurov>	maybe i'm the only one who's hosting un europe... but anyway, they don't do any monitoring? and, 12 hours, srsly?
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Nov 14 18:13:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42100 @ 0.00050523 = 21.2702 BTC [+]
Nov 14 18:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	are you sure it wasn't just dns issue ?
Nov 14 18:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00050538 = 2.1731 BTC [+]
Nov 14 18:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	i had some problems earlier
Nov 14 18:18:09 <mircea_popescu>	how to get 70ish proof spirits
Nov 14 18:18:23 <mircea_popescu>	1. buy vodka. 2. place in freezer. 3. some days later, the water content has frozen.
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Nov 14 18:23:47 <jurov>	mircea, both the backup and other things that disconnected use numeric IP, so no DNS problem there
Nov 14 18:25:55 <pigeons>	jurov is trying to talk down the S.BVPS price
Nov 14 18:26:47 <jurov>	lol
Nov 14 18:27:30 <jurov>	oh, wait till i finish my doublespending attack on satoshidice, too
Nov 14 18:28:01 <pigeons>	wow, i got paid from GIGA
Nov 14 18:28:11 <pigeons>	might as well pump that one if we're dumping the others
Nov 14 18:28:57 <jurov>	so F.GIGA.WTF it isn't set to cancel anymore?
Nov 14 18:29:28 <pigeons>	i think it is, but i'm going to spread the rumor that its paying out dividends to manipulate the price
Nov 14 18:35:35 <jurov>	you're weak manipulator. you should have said "yes, it's staying cause nefario resent those flowers to mpoe-pr"
Nov 14 18:37:02 <jurov>	and her heart melted...
Nov 14 18:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4508 @ 0.00049945 = 2.2515 BTC [-]
Nov 14 18:39:57 <mircea_popescu>	here's the hippy dippy pr-man with the hippy dippy weather, man...
Nov 14 18:41:09 <mircea_popescu>	(ref http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1uaw3WIOlc )
Nov 14 18:41:45 <jurov>	just noticed that i did not forget to fabricate 12hr gap in live.coinbr.com data, too :P
Nov 14 18:42:40 <jurov>	will refill it tomorrow... too tired
Nov 14 18:43:35 <jurov>	see ya
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Nov 14 18:51:20 <mod6>	lol new android update
Nov 14 19:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21204 @ 0.0004968 = 10.5341 BTC [-]
Nov 14 19:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20083 @ 0.00049621 = 9.9654 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 19:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6192 @ 0.00049937 = 3.0921 BTC [+]
Nov 14 19:37:01 <BTC-Mining>	talk down S.BVPS price? How would you do that?
Nov 14 19:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons is just being conspirational.
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Nov 14 19:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00050538 = 8.4146 BTC [+]
Nov 14 19:59:18 <dub>	its like BTC-Mining has some form of autism
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Nov 14 20:20:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31088 @ 0.00050538 = 15.7113 BTC [+]
Nov 14 20:20:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10312 @ 0.00050609 = 5.2188 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 20:45:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15756 @ 0.00050609 = 7.974 BTC [+]
Nov 14 20:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9644 @ 0.00050799 = 4.8991 BTC [+]
Nov 14 21:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00050479 = 10.1968 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 21:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00050479 = 4.9469 BTC [-]
Nov 14 21:37:18 <BTC-Mining>	dub: eh, I missed most of the prior conversation. My bad.
Nov 14 21:37:51 <Chaang-Noi>	whats up all?
Nov 14 21:37:57 <Chaang-Noi>	mefario fix glbse yet?
Nov 14 21:38:01 <Chaang-Noi>	n*
Nov 14 21:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	mefario nix glbse ? yeah...
Nov 14 21:41:52 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Nov 14 22:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7222 @ 0.00050313 = 3.6336 BTC [-]
Nov 14 22:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1878 @ 0.00050139 = 0.9416 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 22:26:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2901 @ 0.00050139 = 1.4545 BTC [-]
Nov 14 22:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00049803 = 9.5871 BTC [-]
Nov 14 22:26:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18449 @ 0.000498 = 9.1876 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 22:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26987 @ 0.00050332 = 13.5831 BTC [+]
Nov 14 22:53:20 <lucidlepidoptera>	https://btcjam.com/listings/584
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Nov 14 23:16:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.0004998 = 7.8968 BTC [-]
Nov 14 23:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.000498 = 2.6394 BTC [-]
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Nov 14 23:41:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9863 @ 0.00050332 = 4.9642 BTC [+]
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Nov 14 23:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2206 @ 0.00050799 = 1.1206 BTC [+]
Nov 14 23:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27094 @ 0.00050878 = 13.7849 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 00:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00050453 = 8.8293 BTC [-]
Nov 15 00:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2587 @ 0.00050383 = 1.3034 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 00:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26251 @ 0.000498 = 13.073 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 00:18:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32344 @ 0.00049774 = 16.0989 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 00:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1206 @ 0.00049904 = 0.6018 BTC [+]
Nov 15 00:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29344 @ 0.00049773 = 14.6054 BTC [-]
Nov 15 00:32:12 <DiabloD3>	derpnet
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Nov 15 00:37:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4313 @ 0.00050382 = 2.173 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 00:46:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00050634 = 11.4686 BTC [+]
Nov 15 00:57:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00050693 = 12.3944 BTC [+]
Nov 15 01:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1272 @ 0.00050693 = 0.6448 BTC [+]
Nov 15 01:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10655 @ 0.00050634 = 5.3951 BTC [-]
Nov 15 01:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.0005059 = 8.6256 BTC [-]
Nov 15 01:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11873 @ 0.00050341 = 5.977 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 01:17:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6813 @ 0.00050341 = 3.4297 BTC [-]
Nov 15 01:26:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00049943 = 8.3155 BTC [-]
Nov 15 01:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10651 @ 0.00049773 = 5.3013 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 01:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8699 @ 0.00049709 = 4.3242 BTC [-]
Nov 15 01:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1350 @ 0.00049831 = 0.6727 BTC [+]
Nov 15 01:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11521 @ 0.00050063 = 5.7678 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 01:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00050449 = 9.1565 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 02:02:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6052 @ 0.00050692 = 3.0679 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 02:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00050638 = 11.8999 BTC [-]
Nov 15 02:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.0005023 = 5.9271 BTC [-]
Nov 15 02:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2122 @ 0.00050106 = 1.0632 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 02:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9308 @ 0.00050106 = 4.6639 BTC [-]
Nov 15 02:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1342 @ 0.00050038 = 0.6715 BTC [-]
Nov 15 02:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13633 @ 0.00050669 = 6.9077 BTC [+]
Nov 15 02:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24197 @ 0.00050038 = 12.1077 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 02:45:10 <OffTopic>	wsup scrubs?
Nov 15 02:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3061 @ 0.00050038 = 1.5317 BTC [-]
Nov 15 02:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 466 @ 0.00049621 = 0.2312 BTC [-]
Nov 15 02:58:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42959 @ 0.000496 = 21.3077 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 03:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7041 @ 0.000496 = 3.4923 BTC [-]
Nov 15 03:07:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19051 @ 0.00049578 = 9.4451 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 03:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 699 @ 0.00049578 = 0.3466 BTC [-]
Nov 15 03:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22001 @ 0.00049552 = 10.9019 BTC [-]
Nov 15 03:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.0004963 = 16.3531 BTC [+]
Nov 15 03:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00049619 = 4.0688 BTC [-]
Nov 15 03:35:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6899 @ 0.00049552 = 3.4186 BTC [-]
Nov 15 03:35:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13854 @ 0.00049547 = 6.8642 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 03:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4196 @ 0.00049547 = 2.079 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 03:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00049506 = 7.5744 BTC [-]
Nov 15 04:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10304 @ 0.00049545 = 5.1051 BTC [+]
Nov 15 04:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3489 @ 0.0004963 = 1.7316 BTC [+]
Nov 15 04:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9257 @ 0.0004965 = 4.5961 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 04:12:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00049506 = 4.6041 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 04:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00049506 = 3.9852 BTC [-]
Nov 15 04:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00049494 = 5.4938 BTC [-]
Nov 15 04:22:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7741 @ 0.00049469 = 3.8294 BTC [-]
Nov 15 04:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14777 @ 0.00049463 = 7.3091 BTC [-]
Nov 15 04:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2923 @ 0.00049463 = 1.4458 BTC [-]
Nov 15 04:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2377 @ 0.00049451 = 1.1755 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 04:41:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00049451 = 11.6457 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 04:50:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18490 @ 0.00049451 = 9.1435 BTC [-]
Nov 15 05:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5733 @ 0.00049451 = 2.835 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 05:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44050 @ 0.00049426 = 21.7722 BTC [-]
Nov 15 05:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00049426 = 3.3857 BTC [-]
Nov 15 05:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9297 @ 0.00049423 = 4.5949 BTC [-]
Nov 15 05:21:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2156 @ 0.00049413 = 1.0653 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 05:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00049413 = 10.1297 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 05:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11839 @ 0.00049413 = 5.85 BTC [-]
Nov 15 05:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34311 @ 0.00049379 = 16.9424 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 05:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4839 @ 0.00049379 = 2.3894 BTC [-]
Nov 15 05:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6707 @ 0.00049378 = 3.3118 BTC [-]
Nov 15 05:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18206 @ 0.00049378 = 8.9898 BTC [-]
Nov 15 06:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00049436 = 10.604 BTC [+]
Nov 15 06:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00049441 = 2.3732 BTC [+]
Nov 15 06:18:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20587 @ 0.00049378 = 10.1654 BTC [-]
Nov 15 06:18:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10307 @ 0.00049339 = 5.0854 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 06:28:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15167 @ 0.00049441 = 7.4987 BTC [+]
Nov 15 06:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26443 @ 0.0004965 = 13.1289 BTC [+]
Nov 15 06:47:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00049712 = 5.4435 BTC [+]
Nov 15 06:47:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12614 @ 0.00049787 = 6.2801 BTC [+]
Nov 15 06:47:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23236 @ 0.00049828 = 11.578 BTC [+]
Nov 15 06:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00049701 = 4.5228 BTC [-]
Nov 15 07:06:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5257 @ 0.00049701 = 2.6128 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 07:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24162 @ 0.00049495 = 11.959 BTC [-]
Nov 15 07:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33793 @ 0.00049339 = 16.6731 BTC [-]
Nov 15 07:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2207 @ 0.00049325 = 1.0886 BTC [-]
Nov 15 07:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16093 @ 0.00049325 = 7.9379 BTC [-]
Nov 15 07:35:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00049323 = 5.8448 BTC [-]
Nov 15 07:35:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 507 @ 0.00049311 = 0.25 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 07:44:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17493 @ 0.00049311 = 8.626 BTC [-]
Nov 15 07:44:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38912 @ 0.00049303 = 19.1848 BTC [-]
Nov 15 07:54:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3338 @ 0.00049303 = 1.6457 BTC [-]
Nov 15 07:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23212 @ 0.00049299 = 11.4433 BTC [-]
Nov 15 08:03:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00049411 = 6.794 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 08:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6988 @ 0.00049411 = 3.4528 BTC [+]
Nov 15 08:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13729 @ 0.00049571 = 6.8056 BTC [+]
Nov 15 08:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12214 @ 0.00049828 = 6.086 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 08:22:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00049833 = 4.6345 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 08:31:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00050038 = 3.1024 BTC [+]
Nov 15 08:31:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4541 @ 0.0005008 = 2.2741 BTC [+]
Nov 15 08:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22759 @ 0.00050237 = 11.4334 BTC [+]
Nov 15 08:40:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12913 @ 0.00050237 = 6.4871 BTC [+]
Nov 15 08:40:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.0005035 = 8.635 BTC [+]
Nov 15 08:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13337 @ 0.00050432 = 6.7261 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 08:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.0004986 = 17.2017 BTC [-]
Nov 15 09:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20954 @ 0.00049884 = 10.4527 BTC [+]
Nov 15 09:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7769 @ 0.00049833 = 3.8715 BTC [-]
Nov 15 09:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3838 @ 0.00049299 = 1.8921 BTC [-]
Nov 15 09:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26928 @ 0.00049297 = 13.2747 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 09:20:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30622 @ 0.00049297 = 15.0957 BTC [-]
Nov 15 09:20:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4528 @ 0.00049265 = 2.2307 BTC [-]
Nov 15 09:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11122 @ 0.00049265 = 5.4793 BTC [-]
Nov 15 09:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.0004926 = 4.8767 BTC [-]
Nov 15 09:29:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3878 @ 0.00049256 = 1.9101 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 09:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00049256 = 9.0877 BTC [-]
Nov 15 09:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	can you change your name on bitcointalk ?!
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Nov 15 09:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15972 @ 0.00049256 = 7.8672 BTC [-]
Nov 15 09:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16128 @ 0.00049255 = 7.9438 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 09:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23304 @ 0.000493 = 11.4889 BTC [+]
Nov 15 10:08:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3027 @ 0.00049356 = 1.494 BTC [+]
Nov 15 10:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34606 @ 0.00049898 = 17.2677 BTC [+]
Nov 15 10:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1946 @ 0.000493 = 0.9594 BTC [-]
Nov 15 10:17:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00049255 = 2.4874 BTC [-]
Nov 15 10:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26202 @ 0.00049255 = 12.9058 BTC [-]
Nov 15 10:27:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15244 @ 0.00049254 = 7.5083 BTC [-]
Nov 15 10:36:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25656 @ 0.00049254 = 12.6366 BTC [-]
Nov 15 10:36:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 344 @ 0.00049235 = 0.1694 BTC [-]
Nov 15 10:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00049235 = 8.1976 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 10:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27306 @ 0.00049235 = 13.4441 BTC [-]
Nov 15 10:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7606 @ 0.00049233 = 3.7447 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 11:06:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19944 @ 0.00049233 = 9.819 BTC [-]
Nov 15 11:06:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22276 @ 0.00049213 = 10.9627 BTC [-]
Nov 15 11:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 420 @ 0.00339942 = 1.4278 BTC [+]
Nov 15 11:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13441 @ 0.00049213 = 6.6147 BTC [-]
Nov 15 11:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7520 @ 0.0004918 = 3.6983 BTC [-]
Nov 15 11:30:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9480 @ 0.0004918 = 4.6623 BTC [-]
Nov 15 11:30:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28012 @ 0.00049168 = 13.7729 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 11:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7188 @ 0.00049168 = 3.5342 BTC [-]
Nov 15 11:40:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41862 @ 0.00049143 = 20.5722 BTC [-]
Nov 15 11:47:26 <lucidlepidoptera>	https://btcjam.com/listings/584
Nov 15 11:49:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 988 @ 0.00049143 = 0.4855 BTC [-]
Nov 15 11:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24112 @ 0.00049088 = 11.8361 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 11:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	allow me to recomend https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0
Nov 15 11:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00049088 = 5.3751 BTC [-]
Nov 15 12:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00049304 = 9.4417 BTC [+]
Nov 15 12:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15770 @ 0.00049324 = 7.7784 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 12:20:30 <kakobrekla>	;;getrating aethero
Nov 15 12:20:31 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask aethero!~kvirc@gateway/tor-sasl/aethero . User aethero, rated since Wed May  2 16:24:52 2012. Cumulative rating 410, from 192 total ratings. Received ratings: 190 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 187 positive, 16 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=aethero
Nov 15 12:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00049324 = 11.4925 BTC [+]
Nov 15 12:21:35 <lucidlepidoptera>	mircea_popescu: thank you, and we've covered those things ;-)
Nov 15 12:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	lucidlepidoptera hm ?
Nov 15 12:22:13 <lucidlepidoptera>	the link you posted earlier
Nov 15 12:22:22 <kakobrekla>	smickles maybe something for you http://www.springwise.com/life_hacks/free-web-platform-offers-open-source-legal-documents-signing-service/
Nov 15 12:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	o o. good for you.
Nov 15 12:22:33 <kakobrekla>	i mean, as to serve it in teh btc world
Nov 15 12:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	wasnt directed at you in particular, for sure.
Nov 15 12:23:02 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu seems aethero guy is invloved in that thingy.
Nov 15 12:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	well ya, they're together iirc.
Nov 15 12:23:27 <lucidlepidoptera>	kakobrekla: aye, aethero and i are
Nov 15 12:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	"as well as a comprehensive solution for having them verified and signed online."
Nov 15 12:23:36 <mircea_popescu>	this had better been gpg.
Nov 15 12:23:40 <mircea_popescu>	or else fuck them.
Nov 15 12:29:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12871 @ 0.00049253 = 6.3394 BTC [-]
Nov 15 12:31:15 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: donators can change their names, or else you can ask theymos to do it for you
Nov 15 12:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	right.
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Nov 15 12:34:59 <smickles>	;;later tell kakobrekla thanks, https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/1037b5d74e4ee5d797b9c86167610713.jpg?s=100&d=identicon << collection letters from a cylon
Nov 15 12:34:59 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Nov 15 12:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14318 @ 0.00049253 = 7.052 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 12:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5061 @ 0.00049253 = 2.4927 BTC [-]
Nov 15 12:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9989 @ 0.00049088 = 4.9034 BTC [-]
Nov 15 12:48:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00049082 = 0.7117 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 12:57:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24350 @ 0.00049082 = 11.9515 BTC [-]
Nov 15 12:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36650 @ 0.00049048 = 17.9761 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00049123 = 2.8983 BTC [+]
Nov 15 13:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00049048 = 2.7712 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00049046 = 15.3024 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:09:40 <smickles>	yet again poking above the 30 day sma
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Nov 15 13:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00049046 = 6.0327 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00049046 = 0.564 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00049031 = 16.6951 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.0004901 = 12.3995 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.0004901 = 9.851 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:36:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00049005 = 9.0904 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:45:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00049005 = 1.4211 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:54:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00049005 = 1.9357 BTC [-]
Nov 15 13:54:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00049002 = 0.784 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 14:04:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00049002 = 16.5382 BTC [-]
Nov 15 14:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Nov 15 14:07:09 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Nov 15 14:07:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ff73812b0f664cd9c9135c5607573d357b70f791dc90a83d3d7159b6
Nov 15 14:07:40 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
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Nov 15 14:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate usagi -10 Ran a complex array of scams. One of the scammers covered by the GLBSE collapse.
Nov 15 14:09:15 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user usagi has been recorded.
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Nov 15 14:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob ^^
Nov 15 14:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	the guy is back starting new "business" etc.
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Nov 15 14:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7607 @ 0.00049002 = 3.7276 BTC [-]
Nov 15 14:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22950 @ 0.00049002 = 11.246 BTC [-]
Nov 15 14:13:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9893 @ 0.00048977 = 4.8453 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 14:23:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11857 @ 0.00048977 = 5.8072 BTC [-]
Nov 15 14:23:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00048975 = 9.0849 BTC [-]
Nov 15 14:23:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9434 @ 0.00048962 = 4.6191 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 14:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00048962 = 5.8754 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 14:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3936 @ 0.00048962 = 1.9271 BTC [-]
Nov 15 14:41:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00048958 = 11.9947 BTC [-]
Nov 15 14:41:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11914 @ 0.00048946 = 5.8314 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 14:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11744 @ 0.00049074 = 5.7633 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 15:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26206 @ 0.00049074 = 12.8603 BTC [+]
Nov 15 15:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4044 @ 0.00049311 = 1.9941 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 15:10:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16779 @ 0.00048946 = 8.2126 BTC [-]
Nov 15 15:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6721 @ 0.00048943 = 3.2895 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 15:16:01 <JWU_42>	any news from Nefario ?
Nov 15 15:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Nov 15 15:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31681 @ 0.00048943 = 15.5056 BTC [-]
Nov 15 15:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15869 @ 0.00048931 = 7.7649 BTC [-]
Nov 15 15:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20029 @ 0.0004927 = 9.8683 BTC [+]
Nov 15 15:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22299 @ 0.00049311 = 10.9959 BTC [+]
Nov 15 15:40:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19307 @ 0.00049311 = 9.5205 BTC [+]
Nov 15 15:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13912 @ 0.00049324 = 6.862 BTC [+]
Nov 15 15:40:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 162 @ 0.00049369 = 0.08 BTC [+]
Nov 15 15:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45450 @ 0.00049251 = 22.3846 BTC [-]
Nov 15 15:51:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7105 @ 0.000492 = 3.4957 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 16:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5595 @ 0.000492 = 2.7527 BTC [-]
Nov 15 16:02:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48350 @ 0.00049024 = 23.7031 BTC [-]
Nov 15 16:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6805 @ 0.00048965 = 3.3321 BTC [-]
Nov 15 16:12:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35700 @ 0.00048965 = 17.4805 BTC [-]
Nov 15 16:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7265 @ 0.00048928 = 3.5546 BTC [-]
Nov 15 16:30:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17390 @ 0.00048927 = 8.5084 BTC [-]
Nov 15 16:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00049209 = 7.8242 BTC [+]
Nov 15 16:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6510 @ 0.00048927 = 3.1851 BTC [-]
Nov 15 16:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16590 @ 0.00048925 = 8.1167 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 16:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12560 @ 0.00048925 = 6.145 BTC [-]
Nov 15 16:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00048925 = 10.421 BTC [-]
Nov 15 16:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4740 @ 0.00048875 = 2.3167 BTC [-]
Nov 15 17:09:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18247 @ 0.00049108 = 8.9607 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 17:18:48 <jurov>	assbot should prolly coalesce the trades, it starts getting a bit overwhelming :)
Nov 15 17:18:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15153 @ 0.00049108 = 7.4413 BTC [+]
Nov 15 17:20:08 <thestringpuller>	meh its good time stamp data
Nov 15 17:20:42 <thestringpuller>	glad to see the coinbr downage wasnt your fault jurov
Nov 15 17:21:26 <mod6>	jurov: don't you find it important to see which orders are filled and when? im not sure how that would work with assbot doing a batch reporting or something
Nov 15 17:21:45 <mod6>	it wouldn't be real time or anything -- or am I missing the point?
Nov 15 17:24:15 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Nov 15 17:24:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00048875 / 0.0004953 / 0.00050878 (3268968 shares, 1,619.15 BTC), 30day: 0.00041466 / 0.00046843 / 0.00051331 (63005861 shares, 29,514.45 BTC)
Nov 15 17:24:34 <mod6>	i like assbot :)
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Nov 15 17:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21822 @ 0.00048953 = 10.6825 BTC [-]
Nov 15 17:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33803 @ 0.00049152 = 16.6149 BTC [+]
Nov 15 17:33:25 <jurov>	thestringpuller, yes it is nice to see each order matched. but it seems to drown conversation, too
Nov 15 17:38:01 <dub>	you could ignore it here and watch #bitcoin-assets-trades
Nov 15 17:38:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34938 @ 0.00048962 = 17.1063 BTC [-]
Nov 15 17:39:14 <jurov>	me? and how would it help me to follow human conversation here?
Nov 15 17:41:23 <dub>	doing '/ignore assbot #bitcoin-assets' will stop you seeing the trades here, you can join the other channel if you want a record of them
Nov 15 17:44:07 <dub>	or use a regex to only block trades if you want to see ticker triggered stuff
Nov 15 17:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol just you wait
Nov 15 17:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	next year i hope you'll be lucky if you can get a word in edgewise.
Nov 15 17:45:34 <mircea_popescu>	but it would be nice if there were two bots, one that did instareporting like assbot and one that did periodic reporting, like half hour or hourly. then people could ignore one or both
Nov 15 17:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14534 @ 0.00048962 = 7.1161 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 17:52:43 <jurov>	thx dub. i'm such a n00b sometimes
Nov 15 17:55:00 <jurov>	;;seen rg
Nov 15 17:55:01 <gribble>	rg was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 21 hours, 9 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <rg> wow, i guess you showed us.
Nov 15 17:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	omg rg found a gf ?!
Nov 15 17:57:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.0004898 = 15.2328 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 18:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21152 @ 0.00049152 = 10.3966 BTC [+]
Nov 15 18:07:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1291 @ 0.00049209 = 0.6353 BTC [+]
Nov 15 18:09:33 <dub>	<gribble> rg was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 1 day, 6 hours, 16 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <rg> ;;calc 292 / [ticker --last]
Nov 15 18:09:57 <dub>	praps sick of all the hate for his buddy nefario
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Nov 15 18:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	they were buttbros ?!
Nov 15 18:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14257 @ 0.00049295 = 7.028 BTC [+]
Nov 15 18:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19020 @ 0.00049153 = 9.3489 BTC [-]
Nov 15 18:19:48 <pigeons>	i wonder if usagi repaid the advance on his salary his employer gave him to pay dvidends
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Nov 15 18:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	well he was gone for what, a month ?
Nov 15 18:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he overtimed
Nov 15 18:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33150 @ 0.00049305 = 16.3446 BTC [+]
Nov 15 18:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20916 @ 0.00049342 = 10.3204 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 18:35:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7830 @ 0.00049153 = 3.8487 BTC [-]
Nov 15 18:35:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 970 @ 0.000491 = 0.4763 BTC [-]
Nov 15 18:38:45 <dub>	holy peepeecoins
Nov 15 18:39:53 <jurov>	mircea, did you get the email from eeecurrency folks?
Nov 15 18:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	yes i did, answered the guy, he said he was gonna pop in here
Nov 15 18:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	dub quite the uptick huh.
Nov 15 18:40:39 <jurov>	they asked me first to be listed on coinbr (sic), i explained and wished them good luck
Nov 15 18:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	aha okays. well i guess he shows up eventually.
Nov 15 18:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	Hi, i will now tell you how intersango scammed me on 390 euros.
Nov 15 18:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	It all started with a transfer of around 390 euros to Intersangos bank account on the 6th of septembe
Nov 15 18:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	hm these keep pouring in...
Nov 15 18:44:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2230 @ 0.000491 = 1.0949 BTC [-]
Nov 15 18:44:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16228 @ 0.00048962 = 7.9456 BTC [-]
Nov 15 18:44:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8942 @ 0.00048875 = 4.3704 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 18:49:38 <gigavps>	http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/pay-another-way-bitcoin/
Nov 15 18:50:39 <mircea_popescu>	ohoho
Nov 15 18:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty big.
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Nov 15 18:54:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00048875 = 14.3204 BTC [-]
Nov 15 18:54:28 *	You are now known as asciilifeform
Nov 15 19:03:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00048904 = 5.7218 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 19:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00049024 = 12.305 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 19:19:34 <dub>	hmm might be time to buy
Nov 15 19:20:11 <dub>	oh wtf
Nov 15 19:20:15 <dub>	was time an hour ago
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Nov 15 19:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35712 @ 0.00049006 = 17.501 BTC [-]
Nov 15 19:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Nov 15 19:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00048994 = 9.0149 BTC [-]
Nov 15 19:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	A study by the Australian Institute of Criminology of 162 attempted or actual contract murders in Australia between 1989 and 2002 indicated that the most common reason for murder-for-hire was "the dissolution of an intimate relationship". The study also found that the average payment for a "hit" was $12,700 and that the most commonly used weapons were firearms.
Nov 15 19:31:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2888 @ 0.0004895 = 1.4137 BTC [-]
Nov 15 19:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if that average is over all attempts or only over successful ones.
Nov 15 19:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37066 @ 0.0004895 = 18.1438 BTC [-]
Nov 15 19:42:22 <dub>	seems expensive
Nov 15 19:43:56 <smickles>	http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#What_would_be_a_good_way_to_get_more_contributions.3F
Nov 15 19:44:04 <dub>	given that .au is a prison island populated entirely by criminals you'd think they were oversupplied
Nov 15 19:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol y the hate dub ?
Nov 15 19:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	smickles : the abolition of accounts.
Nov 15 19:46:02 <dub>	^
Nov 15 19:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	also that blinky shit on the left doesn't help.
Nov 15 19:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	Disclaimer
Nov 15 19:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	The people mocked on this website, even the real ones, are fictional
Nov 15 19:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha that's humorous in and of itself.
Nov 15 19:48:56 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the ad i get is simple text, says "Need to crack some WPA keys?"
Nov 15 19:49:28 <mircea_popescu>	i got some blinky shit with a pocket knife
Nov 15 19:49:48 <smickles>	I'm not sure about your solution tho, the site already gets a shitton of spam
Nov 15 19:50:03 <smickles>	some of it is christian rhetoric spam
Nov 15 19:50:06 <smickles>	odd
Nov 15 19:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8488 @ 0.00049006 = 4.1596 BTC [+]
Nov 15 19:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18740 @ 0.00049165 = 9.2135 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 19:53:48 <mircea_popescu>	well im not in the business of solving the site's problems (and if i thought a website is a worthwhile endeavour for a human being i wouldn't have closed my romanian digg thing)
Nov 15 19:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	i was just saying what's keeping me from contributing
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Nov 15 19:55:26 <smickles>	heh, I wasn't even really soliciting answers to the question
Nov 15 19:55:34 <smickles>	just pimping mentiones of my name
Nov 15 19:55:43 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Nov 15 19:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	why don;t you start a blog btw ?
Nov 15 19:56:47 <smickles>	I've considered it, and have made half-assed attempts in the past
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Nov 15 19:57:36 <dub>	fucking enterprise security people hurt my  butt
Nov 15 19:57:41 <smickles>	best i've done is vlogging to the tune of 22k total views
Nov 15 19:57:43 <mircea_popescu>	works as a convenient way to gather together your output
Nov 15 19:57:54 <dub>	this internet is almost unusable
Nov 15 19:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	views is really irrelevant.
Nov 15 19:58:39 <smickles>	ok, well, then:
Nov 15 19:58:51 <smickles>	best i've done is vlogging to the tune of really irrelevant
Nov 15 19:58:57 <dub>	now you can buy a wordpress with bitcoin too!
Nov 15 19:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	the primary utility of the blog is documentary. say the boys start discussing women as slaves. i have a handy link of two girls chained to a shopping cart.
Nov 15 19:59:26 <mircea_popescu>	it's from 2010. if it wasn't on my blog it would practically not exist.
Nov 15 19:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111 @ 0.0004895 = 0.0543 BTC [-]
Nov 15 20:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	everyone gets into this "o, i put up a pic of my lunch and 5498645805 people loaded that page". seems a dubious measure of utility.
Nov 15 20:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	"this page was a handy reference for X subject 35 times over the past 10 years" seems better.
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Nov 15 20:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2268 @ 0.00048875 = 1.1085 BTC [-]
Nov 15 20:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31032 @ 0.00048872 = 15.166 BTC [-]
Nov 15 20:09:33 <dub>	http://heeeeeeeey.com/
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Nov 15 20:18:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3818 @ 0.00048872 = 1.8659 BTC [-]
Nov 15 20:18:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10182 @ 0.00048867 = 4.9756 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 20:27:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00048867 = 12.1679 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 20:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 368 @ 0.00048867 = 0.1798 BTC [-]
Nov 15 20:41:45 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pw42uhVUY0M
Nov 15 20:46:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15651 @ 0.00048864 = 7.6477 BTC [-]
Nov 15 20:46:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9089 @ 0.0004892 = 4.4463 BTC [+]
Nov 15 20:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16313 @ 0.00048977 = 7.9896 BTC [+]
Nov 15 20:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17347 @ 0.00049165 = 8.5287 BTC [+]
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Nov 15 20:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13120 @ 0.0004885 = 6.4091 BTC [-]
Nov 15 20:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29480 @ 0.00048819 = 14.3918 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 21:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3820 @ 0.00048819 = 1.8649 BTC [-]
Nov 15 21:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2680 @ 0.00048813 = 1.3082 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 21:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick- did you see the writing contest ?
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Nov 15 21:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23320 @ 0.00048813 = 11.3832 BTC [-]
Nov 15 21:17:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8080 @ 0.00048808 = 3.9437 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 21:18:42 <sgornick}>	Oh crap, that broadcasts that to each channel?
Nov 15 21:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	d;uh
Nov 15 21:18:55 <sgornick}>	heh, ... oopes.
Nov 15 21:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 15 21:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 15 21:19:42 <gribble>	11.08
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Nov 15 21:22:14 <dub>	thats a squatter btw
Nov 15 21:22:41 <dub>	oh maybe not
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Nov 15 21:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3634 @ 0.00048808 = 1.7737 BTC [-]
Nov 15 21:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17424 @ 0.00048798 = 8.5026 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 21:28:47 <usagi>	hi guys!
Nov 15 21:29:03 <dub>	sup scammer
Nov 15 21:29:20 <usagi>	Oh hey scammer. Didn't see you come in.
Nov 15 21:30:29 <usagi>	Oh wait -- dub -- were you talking to me?
Nov 15 21:32:29 <Chaang-Noi>	scammer? what happened?
Nov 15 21:32:42 <Chaang-Noi>	also speaking of scammer is nefario just keeping the btc? ;p;
Nov 15 21:32:53 <usagi>	Dunno, I thought he was talking to someone else, then I noticed there were no scammers in the channel.
Nov 15 21:33:01 <usagi>	Well, at least, no one actually named 'scammer'.
Nov 15 21:33:16 <usagi>	Weird. it must be my OTC rating. Or the fact I actually pay people back.
Nov 15 21:33:41 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe nefario is here?
Nov 15 21:33:45 <usagi>	Or maybe it's the fact that I am TRYING TO RUN A GOD DAMNED BUSINESS HERE
Nov 15 21:33:49 <Chaang-Noi>	and we just cant see him?
Nov 15 21:33:51 <usagi>	Speaking of that guy
Nov 15 21:34:06 <Chaang-Noi>	are you still trying? i gave up a while ago...
Nov 15 21:34:06 <usagi>	No response to me at all
Nov 15 21:34:12 <usagi>	I think he's going to keep my bitcoins
Nov 15 21:34:43 <Chaang-Noi>	what an asshat he is...
Nov 15 21:36:00 <usagi>	Im going to make a new business tho
Nov 15 21:36:07 <usagi>	The cream always rises to the top as they say
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Nov 15 21:36:16 <smickles>	usagi: from your rating of me, I assume you think I should trust you, or at least be indifferent to you after you defaulted on a contract with me?
Nov 15 21:36:36 <usagi>	Hi smickles!
Nov 15 21:36:37 <smickles>	I understand that we came to an agreeable settlement
Nov 15 21:36:46 <usagi>	Well according to the OTC guidelines....
Nov 15 21:36:48 <Chaang-Noi>	off to the hospital.. has to make sure im healthy to get clearancy... lulz... peace
Nov 15 21:37:04 <usagi>	You don't even have to have a transaction with someone to rate them. It can be based even on what you have heard about someone
Nov 15 21:37:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16424 @ 0.00048966 = 8.0422 BTC [+]
Nov 15 21:37:20 <smickles>	oh, i must of missed the guideline that says a rating isn't a reflection of your trust in a user
Nov 15 21:37:32 <usagi>	Basically although we came to an agreement, I was shocked that you were so heartless at the situation I was placed in.
Nov 15 21:37:45 <usagi>	It was literally an act of God that GLBSE was shut down at the precise moment I took out those loans
Nov 15 21:37:58 <smickles>	ah, well
Nov 15 21:38:01 <usagi>	You youeself were placed in a similar situation with S2
Nov 15 21:38:02 <smickles>	i don't believe in god
Nov 15 21:38:22 <usagi>	I found it shocking that you had no compassion at all and wanted to stick to a contract like that.
Nov 15 21:38:37 <smickles>	you told me you could after glbse went down tho
Nov 15 21:38:45 <usagi>	But you certainly have a legal right to do so and yes I did default, so to speak, so I guess I deserve a negative rating from you
Nov 15 21:39:22 <usagi>	Unfortunately, any reason I give you could be interpreted as an appeal to emotion, and it's a done deal, so no sense talking about it anymore
Nov 15 21:39:34 <smickles>	well, I just wanted to ask you about that,
Nov 15 21:39:46 <smickles>	huh? an appeal to emotion is a specific logical fallacy?
Nov 15 21:40:16 <usagi>	Bad things happened to me smickles... things you wouldn't want to know about. Things you couldn't want to know about. Things you *shouldn't* want to know about.
Nov 15 21:40:21 <Diablo-D3>	lol its usagi
Nov 15 21:40:36 <usagi>	I'm a loner smickles. A rebel.
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Nov 15 21:41:34 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: so what took you so long to rageunquit?
Nov 15 21:41:51 <usagi>	I'll tell you if you give me five bitcoins.
Nov 15 21:41:55 <usagi>	Speaking of which......
Nov 15 21:42:02 *	usagi coughs quietly.
Nov 15 21:42:09 <Diablo-D3>	you have to wait in line for those.
Nov 15 21:42:13 <Diablo-D3>	shareholders come first.
Nov 15 21:42:29 <usagi>	Actually when a company has bills to pay those come before distributions to shareholders.
Nov 15 21:42:46 <Diablo-D3>	yes, but your contract was with me, not the company
Nov 15 21:42:55 <Diablo-D3>	and shareholders come before paying the ceo.
Nov 15 21:43:07 <usagi>	I dunno about that but whatever
Nov 15 21:43:37 <usagi>	Ever do blades Diablo?
Nov 15 21:43:59 <Diablo-D3>	knifes or high density computing?
Nov 15 21:44:08 <usagi>	with knives
Nov 15 21:44:18 <usagi>	lol blades high density computing
Nov 15 21:44:42 <pigeons>	i love it: < usagi> It was literally an act of God that GLBSE was shut down at the precise moment I took out those loans
Nov 15 21:45:00 <smickles>	nefario == god
Nov 15 21:45:10 <usagi>	Ya I took out a one month advance from work to buy bitcoins for that
Nov 15 21:45:13 *	smickles prays to nefario
Nov 15 21:45:22 <usagi>	or I wouldn't have been able to pay people back at all
Nov 15 21:45:26 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: yes, this is what dmc's dc was for, that kind of computing
Nov 15 21:45:38 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: dude, if nefario is god, I want my church donations back
Nov 15 21:45:53 <usagi>	Diablo I was referring to having a hot knife shoved into your abdomen
Nov 15 21:46:32 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: yeah, i thought tithes were only supposed to be 10%
Nov 15 21:46:54 <usagi>	It felt a little like that
Nov 15 21:46:57 <Diablo-D3>	SMICKLES: I DONT KNOW, LETS ASK LUKE!
Nov 15 21:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26176 @ 0.00048798 = 12.7734 BTC [-]
Nov 15 21:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5124 @ 0.0004876 = 2.4985 BTC [-]
Nov 15 21:47:05 <Diablo-D3>	oh wait, I have that religious freak on ignore :3
Nov 15 21:47:40 <usagi>	but basically I didn't ragequit, I was just unable to get online
Nov 15 21:48:07 <smickles>	I sacrifice the third son of hrothgar unto the, Luke-Jr
Nov 15 21:48:20 <smickles>	BE SUMMONED!
Nov 15 21:48:53 <Diablo-D3>	<ziggy stardust> sup bros
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Nov 15 22:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00048752 = 5.509 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 22:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20330 @ 0.00048742 = 9.9092 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 22:46:13 <lucidlepidoptera>	https://btcjam.com/listings/584
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Nov 15 22:53:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25250 @ 0.00048854 = 12.3356 BTC [+]
Nov 15 23:03:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34580 @ 0.00048739 = 16.8539 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 23:32:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00048793 = 11.4908 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 23:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23863 @ 0.00048691 = 11.6191 BTC [-]
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Nov 15 23:55:02 <aurigae>	bored trader is bored aww
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Nov 16 00:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00048848 = 17.2922 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 00:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27152 @ 0.00048904 = 13.2784 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 01:32:34 <kakobrekla>	;;later tell smickles hrm?
Nov 16 01:32:34 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Nov 16 01:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20540 @ 0.00048675 = 9.9978 BTC [-]
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Nov 16 01:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22040 @ 0.00048656 = 10.7238 BTC [-]
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Nov 16 02:17:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00048771 = 6.706 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 02:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14211 @ 0.00048863 = 6.9439 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 02:47:39 <kakobrekla>	mornin mr.P
Nov 16 02:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	heya mr k
Nov 16 02:49:33 <mircea_popescu>	<karlabakarleko> mircea_popescu: u talking to me? :D
Nov 16 02:49:35 <mircea_popescu>	was that you ?
Nov 16 02:50:03 <kakobrekla>	lol
Nov 16 02:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Nov 16 02:50:38 <kakobrekla>	brb
Nov 16 02:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00049193 = 2.4842 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 03:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1524 @ 0.00049193 = 0.7497 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 03:08:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 776 @ 0.00049291 = 0.3825 BTC [+]
Nov 16 03:10:18 <pigeons>	this song is seriously supposed to be about and named after usagi: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=24002&songID=243091
Nov 16 03:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	isn't usagi a common word ?
Nov 16 03:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	like, persay, milk ?
Nov 16 03:16:43 <pigeons>	well its our usagi https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.martial-arts/ly5cmb5i8bc/aBX3EztwQ4YJ
Nov 16 03:17:22 <pigeons>	in the forum he talks about how he's been posting under his real name in rec.martial-arts
Nov 16 03:17:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13274 @ 0.00049291 = 6.5429 BTC [+]
Nov 16 03:17:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23634 @ 0.00049342 = 11.6615 BTC [+]
Nov 16 03:17:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5242 @ 0.00049369 = 2.5879 BTC [+]
Nov 16 03:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	"Have you started lecturing them yet, about something you just learned
Nov 16 03:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	about yourself? My money is on "yes"."
Nov 16 03:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaha
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Nov 16 03:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	the ito integration expert
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Nov 16 03:25:42 <EskimoBob>	https://www.google.com/search?q=usagi+%22Oliver+Richman%22 enjoy
Nov 16 03:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00049369 = 18.2172 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 03:36:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00049378 = 8.6905 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 03:36:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6404 @ 0.00049387 = 3.1627 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 03:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4696 @ 0.00049387 = 2.3192 BTC [+]
Nov 16 03:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00049396 = 11.7069 BTC [+]
Nov 16 03:46:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21554 @ 0.00049396 = 10.6468 BTC [+]
Nov 16 03:54:23 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Nov 16 03:54:37 <kakobrekla>	one has to be tight to have songs written about em
Nov 16 03:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15096 @ 0.00049396 = 7.4568 BTC [+]
Nov 16 03:55:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16504 @ 0.00049399 = 8.1528 BTC [+]
Nov 16 03:57:53 <pigeons>	"An imbecile inspired this song with his relentless stupidity and arrogance."
Nov 16 04:01:20 <EskimoBob>	who stole usagis meds? I'll send you flowers, if you return him to mental institution
Nov 16 04:02:12 <pigeons>	i thought flowers were reserved for those who pull off bigger scams
Nov 16 04:02:41 <EskimoBob>	one flower from trash?
Nov 16 04:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly, usagi is not yet flower-worthy
Nov 16 04:02:57 <Diablo-D3>	bigger scams, eh?
Nov 16 04:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	btw, where is the flowers for pirate thread ?
Nov 16 04:03:02 <EskimoBob>	OK, forget it. no flowers
Nov 16 04:03:03 *	Diablo-D3 ponders.
Nov 16 04:03:18 <Diablo-D3>	DIABLO FOR PRESIDENT
Nov 16 04:03:27 <Diablo-D3>	\o/
Nov 16 04:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	you can be president of vermont.
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Nov 16 04:03:57 <pigeons>	you can be president of the securities section of bitcointalk
Nov 16 04:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6596 @ 0.00049399 = 3.2584 BTC [+]
Nov 16 04:04:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24604 @ 0.000494 = 12.1544 BTC [+]
Nov 16 04:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	no, we need one of the bitcoin-webhores there.
Nov 16 04:05:23 <pigeons>	and how does that disqualify Diablo-D3
Nov 16 04:05:37 <mircea_popescu>	you saw tits ?!
Nov 16 04:05:43 <pigeons>	oh one of those
Nov 16 04:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 16 04:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	this convo should go in the annals.
Nov 16 04:07:53 <Diablo-D3>	wait, what?
Nov 16 04:08:00 *	Diablo-D3 looks in his shirt
Nov 16 04:08:07 <Diablo-D3>	these are not tits, these are manboobs!
Nov 16 04:08:15 <Diablo-D3>	fear my hairy chest! waagh!
Nov 16 04:08:47 <mircea_popescu>	i see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0 is going nicely
Nov 16 04:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	why do people hate what they don't know ffs. just learn it!
Nov 16 04:09:40 <kakobrekla>	o, this is new https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124391.0
Nov 16 04:09:47 <kakobrekla>	at least to me.
Nov 16 04:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124391.msg1338426#msg1338426
Nov 16 04:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Nov 16 04:10:29 <Diablo-D3>	not this shit again dot jpg
Nov 16 04:10:56 <Diablo-D3>	I agree with that bitcoin business post
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Nov 16 04:11:07 <Diablo-D3>	this is largely a subset of whats already said in the tech startup community
Nov 16 04:11:16 <Diablo-D3>	no one is going to steal your fucking idea, JustDoIt(tm)
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Nov 16 04:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	d'uh.
Nov 16 04:12:27 *	Diablo-D3 needs to get back on that horse, too =/
Nov 16 04:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	problem is that a large contingent of new bitcoiners (tm) comes from the internet marketing subculture
Nov 16 04:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	these are a type of idiots all of their own. like a weird cult.
Nov 16 04:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.000494 = 13.9308 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 04:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.000494 = 2.9887 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 04:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4146 @ 0.000494 = 2.0481 BTC [+]
Nov 16 04:32:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14106 @ 0.00049402 = 6.9686 BTC [+]
Nov 16 04:32:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2734 @ 0.00049422 = 1.3512 BTC [+]
Nov 16 04:37:27 <kakobrekla>	btw, Rakim should get an imac.
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Nov 16 04:41:00 <mircea_popescu>	i think if rakim had the money for an imac rakim would rent a souped up hummer limo for 24 hours.
Nov 16 04:41:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8616 @ 0.00049422 = 4.2582 BTC [+]
Nov 16 04:41:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22433 @ 0.00049433 = 11.0893 BTC [+]
Nov 16 04:43:30 <pigeons>	that's racist
Nov 16 04:43:43 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Nov 16 04:43:57 <Diablo-D3>	you know
Nov 16 04:44:05 <Diablo-D3>	I actually wouldnt mind having a retina desktop display
Nov 16 04:44:17 <Diablo-D3>	I just dont want the goddamned apple look
Nov 16 04:44:26 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, if its not black, its shit
Nov 16 04:44:39 <Diablo-D3>	aluminum is just too distracting for daily use
Nov 16 04:44:48 <Diablo-D3>	or iPlastic look they still retain on some shit
Nov 16 04:46:40 <kakobrekla>	yes, the main problem with Apple is color.
Nov 16 04:47:14 <Diablo-D3>	the secondary problem is price
Nov 16 04:47:19 <Diablo-D3>	but that actually can be fixed
Nov 16 04:47:26 <kakobrekla>	my statement was kinda a joke
Nov 16 04:47:36 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Nov 16 04:47:53 <Diablo-D3>	I actually do think thats the problem
Nov 16 04:48:03 <Diablo-D3>	like, if you're paying that much fucking money, it should come in any fucking color you want
Nov 16 04:48:09 <Diablo-D3>	and have non-shiney screans
Nov 16 04:48:48 <Diablo-D3>	you can have sharp/bright screens without going shiney
Nov 16 04:48:53 <kakobrekla>	http://de1.eu.apcdn.com/full/88852.jpg
Nov 16 04:48:56 <Diablo-D3>	NEC does it
Nov 16 04:49:05 <Diablo-D3>	although they use some fucking expensive polarizer to do it
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Nov 16 04:49:35 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: thats more of a slur against starbucks, really
Nov 16 04:50:01 <kakobrekla>	yes, starbucks with apple logo.
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Nov 16 04:50:27 <Diablo-D3>	all the same kind of company
Nov 16 04:50:34 <Diablo-D3>	best in class not because they're the best but because they say they are
Nov 16 04:50:56 <kakobrekla>	best in the class excuse me?
Nov 16 04:51:01 <Diablo-D3>	if owning an apple and drinking a starbucks was what only the elite did, why does everyone own apple and drink starbucks?
Nov 16 04:51:46 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, I will never understand PR
Nov 16 04:51:49 <Diablo-D3>	it doesnt work on me.
Nov 16 04:51:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5067 @ 0.00049433 = 2.5048 BTC [+]
Nov 16 04:51:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8133 @ 0.00049444 = 4.0213 BTC [+]
Nov 16 04:51:58 <Diablo-D3>	want to impress me? prove you have a better product.
Nov 16 04:52:26 <Diablo-D3>	apple hasnt done that
Nov 16 04:53:10 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, I like some of what they've done, they've had a few good ideas
Nov 16 04:53:34 <Diablo-D3>	bringing multitouch to the desktop, retina screens on the desktop, etc
Nov 16 04:53:56 <kakobrekla>	stuff kids would want.
Nov 16 04:54:00 <Diablo-D3>	but whats the point if it costs that much money and looks ugly and underperforms against every other option
Nov 16 04:54:09 <Diablo-D3>	and osx is a fucking disaster
Nov 16 04:54:18 <Diablo-D3>	if there was ever a textbook definition of polishing a turd, osx is it
Nov 16 04:55:04 <Diablo-D3>	and its kind of sad
Nov 16 04:55:10 <Diablo-D3>	osx does quite a few things pretty decently
Nov 16 04:55:15 <Diablo-D3>	the linux desktop wished it looked that good
Nov 16 04:55:22 <Diablo-D3>	yet guess what? I have a linux desktop
Nov 16 04:55:30 <Diablo-D3>	it looks like shit, but it gets shit done day in and day out
Nov 16 04:55:33 <Diablo-D3>	nothing else can claim that
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Nov 16 05:01:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00049444 = 8.9494 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:07:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/ <<< pretty big.
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Nov 16 05:10:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9033 @ 0.00049444 = 4.4663 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:12:13 <kakobrekla>	>>don’t recall assbot ever streaming a trade from them in #bitcoin-assets, and that happens to be the criteria I use.
Nov 16 05:12:21 <kakobrekla>	some shit came flying through my nose.
Nov 16 05:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol ?
Nov 16 05:12:59 <kakobrekla>	;)
Nov 16 05:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	hehe. well... it is.
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Nov 16 05:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22715 @ 0.00049444 = 11.2312 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:19:46 <kakobrekla>	good read
Nov 16 05:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19635 @ 0.00049444 = 9.7083 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 05:19:57 <kakobrekla>	hope to see some response from them about this
Nov 16 05:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Nov 16 05:21:23 <mircea_popescu>	pay me a bitcoin for every time fud is mentioned ?
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Nov 16 05:25:23 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 16 05:25:33 <kakobrekla>	no easy money, you know it.
Nov 16 05:25:37 <kakobrekla>	;>
Nov 16 05:29:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12632 @ 0.00049444 = 6.2458 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18654 @ 0.00049445 = 9.2235 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:38:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6346 @ 0.00049445 = 3.1378 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11776 @ 0.00049457 = 5.8241 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00049459 = 8.5069 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15188 @ 0.00049461 = 7.5121 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	awww
Nov 16 05:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17312 @ 0.00049461 = 8.5627 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12336 @ 0.00049495 = 6.1057 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 05:57:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7688 @ 0.00049495 = 3.8052 BTC [+]
Nov 16 05:57:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7712 @ 0.00049502 = 3.8176 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:00:32 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: what desktop you use?  (Diablo-D3 | it looks like shit)
Nov 16 06:01:07 <Diablo-D3>	xfce
Nov 16 06:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	"The fatal dose of pure alcohol in an average adult is 300-400 mL (750-1000 mL of 40% alcohol) if consumed in less than one hour.
Nov 16 06:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	this is such bs. i ocasionalyl drink triple distilled alcohol (99%)
Nov 16 06:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	i've went through one bottle in a day, im quite not dead.
Nov 16 06:02:57 <Diablo-D3>	thats an LD50
Nov 16 06:03:08 <Diablo-D3>	it only kills half the people
Nov 16 06:03:20 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: and notice that said less than one hour
Nov 16 06:03:24 <Diablo-D3>	24 > 1
Nov 16 06:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	they also said 300-400ml
Nov 16 06:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	but yea, i guess you have a point.
Nov 16 06:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30388 @ 0.00049502 = 15.0427 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:07:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3212 @ 0.00049515 = 1.5904 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:10:02 <EskimoBob>	Who ever assigns scammer tags, better step up and do his fkn job. Usagi needs a tag so bad, it reeks.
Nov 16 06:10:33 <EskimoBob>	And while you are at it, restore all his posts, he has managed to delete
Nov 16 06:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	the entire scammer tag thing is a dubious fix for a large problem
Nov 16 06:10:45 <mircea_popescu>	and i think soon enough the forum might take them out altogether.
Nov 16 06:11:07 <EskimoBob>	correct, it's not even a fkn bandaid
Nov 16 06:12:15 <EskimoBob>	but why do we need moderators, if they are not closing down even obvious scam threads?
Nov 16 06:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	well, i don't know that we need them, but in principle this is like saying why do you even have waitresses if they don't even suck your cock
Nov 16 06:14:15 <EskimoBob>	?
Nov 16 06:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they have mods to keep anyoen from posting the letter W
Nov 16 06:14:53 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... there's a ton of reasons to have mods.
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Nov 16 06:15:01 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: are you drunk?
Nov 16 06:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	not atm.
Nov 16 06:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly, do you understand the breadth of the task of closing down scam threads ?
Nov 16 06:16:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00049515 = 6.2389 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 06:24:11 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: after you"
Nov 16 06:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Nov 16 06:24:47 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: after your "... why do you even have waitresses if they don't even suck your cock..." comparison I think you do not understand it :)
Nov 16 06:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol i see
Nov 16 06:25:25 <mircea_popescu>	what's the problem ? cocksucking is a valuable service, the girls are hired to serve the customer, why shouldn't they ?
Nov 16 06:25:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20938 @ 0.00049515 = 10.3675 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18312 @ 0.00049517 = 9.0676 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	o, cause it's a lot of work, requires a lot of skill, most girls aren't prepared to handle it etc ?
Nov 16 06:25:40 <mircea_popescu>	awell.
Nov 16 06:27:41 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: I have no good recommendations for you how you can get over your serious sexual problems and obvious insecurities. Maybe you need to get some help from professional?
Nov 16 06:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	wait. obvious insecurities cause i discuss sex ?
Nov 16 06:28:49 <EskimoBob>	no, it not so much that you do talk about it but how you talk about it
Nov 16 06:29:39 <mircea_popescu>	how's that ?
Nov 16 06:31:10 <EskimoBob>	sometimes try reading the stuff you write when women or sex is involved. :)
Nov 16 06:31:29 <Diablo-D3>	did someone say women?
Nov 16 06:31:53 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3 has a alert set on "women" :)
Nov 16 06:32:11 <Diablo-D3>	no, just trolling
Nov 16 06:32:27 <EskimoBob>	lol
Nov 16 06:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob i reread my stuff all the time, i'm like my own favourite author.
Nov 16 06:32:36 *	Diablo-D3 relurks
Nov 16 06:33:43 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: can you kick your pompous comrades ass (other forum admins) and restore usagi's deleted posts -  history needs this
Nov 16 06:34:10 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: good for you.
Nov 16 06:34:25 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: I dont think they can be restored
Nov 16 06:34:32 <EskimoBob>	fuuuuuuccckk!
Nov 16 06:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8838 @ 0.00049517 = 4.3763 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22462 @ 0.00049517 = 11.1225 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:34:58 <Diablo-D3>	I dont know how the software works, but I assume it deletes it from the SQL DB backend instead of puts it in a trash can db
Nov 16 06:35:07 <Diablo-D3>	(or a deleted column, etc etc)
Nov 16 06:35:20 <EskimoBob>	maybe it adds some "do not display"  bit?
Nov 16 06:35:32 <Diablo-D3>	like I said, deleted column
Nov 16 06:36:08 <EskimoBob>	deleted column? Every post is a column?
Nov 16 06:36:17 <EskimoBob>	how about row?
Nov 16 06:36:24 <EskimoBob>	|| column
Nov 16 06:36:36 <EskimoBob>	- row
Nov 16 06:36:40 <Diablo-D3>	no, every post is a row
Nov 16 06:36:51 <Diablo-D3>	tables have columns and rows
Nov 16 06:36:58 <EskimoBob>	doh... really
Nov 16 06:37:27 <Diablo-D3>	so you'd have something like unique id, subject, body, user id, timestamp, etc etc
Nov 16 06:37:34 <Diablo-D3>	and each post is a tuplet of those
Nov 16 06:39:13 <EskimoBob>	wtf is SuprTiggr and why it reacts to '|' as a start of a command
Nov 16 06:39:31 <EskimoBob>	| stop
Nov 16 06:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27438 @ 0.00049517 = 13.5865 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:43:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20962 @ 0.00049518 = 10.38 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:44:10 <kakobrekla>	SuprTiggr does the net chart
Nov 16 06:46:19 <EskimoBob>	it's The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1.  The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1.
Nov 16 06:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	it's MrTiggr's bot.
Nov 16 06:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	i think it does something related to bitcoin-police.
Nov 16 06:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 226 @ 0.00049518 = 0.1119 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:55:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28649 @ 0.00049536 = 14.1916 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:55:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00049537 = 8.0498 BTC [+]
Nov 16 06:55:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3825 @ 0.0004954 = 1.8949 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:05:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37512 @ 0.0004954 = 18.5834 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 07:14:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2813 @ 0.0004954 = 1.3936 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:14:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21086 @ 0.00049542 = 10.4464 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 07:23:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23627 @ 0.00049542 = 11.7053 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:23:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13140 @ 0.00049549 = 6.5107 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	This is a public notice that I have resigned from all my roles in Bitcoin Magazine today and from position of a Director of Bittalk Media Ltd.
Nov 16 07:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	is there anyone left @bitcoin mag ?
Nov 16 07:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22760 @ 0.00049549 = 11.2774 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:32:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9871 @ 0.0004955 = 4.8911 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:33:16 <Chaang-Noi>	who was that from? vlad?
Nov 16 07:33:42 <Chaang-Noi>	bitcoin mag was a fail idea to start with...
Nov 16 07:34:35 <Chaang-Noi>	<mircea_popescu>  ?
Nov 16 07:34:44 <mircea_popescu>	ya vladimir quit
Nov 16 07:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	leaving just this one romanian dood there.
Nov 16 07:35:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/ciuciu-bond/#comment-87622 << that's him
Nov 16 07:37:48 <EskimoBob>	"mircea_popescu | This is a public notice---" where do you read that?
Nov 16 07:37:53 <EskimoBob>	forum?
Nov 16 07:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	well i get a forum digest
Nov 16 07:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	do you want the actual link ?
Nov 16 07:38:21 <EskimoBob>	if you have it
Nov 16 07:38:37 <EskimoBob>	UI got it
Nov 16 07:41:06 <EskimoBob>	publishing a magazine is loads of fun if you have a good team
Nov 16 07:42:08 <EskimoBob>	and subject you love.
Nov 16 07:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14379 @ 0.0004955 = 7.1248 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00049556 = 15.288 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7871 @ 0.00049568 = 3.9015 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, cause in general it's a pretty decent pickup line
Nov 16 07:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	so you can fill an office up with confused twenty somethings that can't do math too well.
Nov 16 07:43:57 <EskimoBob>	I did run a magazine for few years
Nov 16 07:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17129 @ 0.00049568 = 8.4905 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:52:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28871 @ 0.00049571 = 14.3116 BTC [+]
Nov 16 07:56:33 *	copumpkin is twenty-something and what is this?
Nov 16 07:57:06 <mircea_popescu>	girls only you gourd you
Nov 16 07:57:13 <copumpkin>	oh okay
Nov 16 08:01:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51600 @ 0.00049571 = 25.5786 BTC [+]
Nov 16 08:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00049571 = 2.1811 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 08:10:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3529 @ 0.00049571 = 1.7494 BTC [+]
Nov 16 08:10:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19071 @ 0.00049573 = 9.4541 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 08:25:51 <Chaang-Noi>	usagi is back
Nov 16 08:25:52 <Chaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124391.0
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Nov 16 08:26:03 <usagi>	yaa
Nov 16 08:27:50 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Nov 16 08:28:00 <Chaang-Noi>	what timing
Nov 16 08:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14748 @ 0.00049573 = 7.311 BTC [+]
Nov 16 08:29:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19162 @ 0.00049573 = 9.4992 BTC [+]
Nov 16 08:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124391.msg1338729#msg1338729
Nov 16 08:29:54 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty damning
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Nov 16 08:30:01 <mircea_popescu>	i don't recall bb saying "fuck"
Nov 16 08:30:47 <usagi>	Yeah I just got on
Nov 16 08:30:52 <usagi>	Badbear is being a dick again, it seems
Nov 16 08:31:14 <usagi>	You know what one of the best things is about having a real business?
Nov 16 08:31:30 <usagi>	You realize how small and shitty bitcointalk.org really is, and how useless it is to actually do business on.
Nov 16 08:31:42 <usagi>	I guess I just hang around for the lolz
Nov 16 08:32:51 <gigavps>	just when i thought things were beginning to calm down....
Nov 16 08:33:07 <Chaang-Noi>	i do think badbear is a dick.. i never liked him:/
Nov 16 08:33:28 <gigavps>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124482.msg1338773#msg1338773
Nov 16 08:33:32 <gigavps>	that's pretty funny
Nov 16 08:33:56 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Nov 16 08:34:15 <Chaang-Noi>	wordpress taking btc is massive
Nov 16 08:34:21 <usagi>	Whut? it is?
Nov 16 08:34:21 <Chaang-Noi>	if only we could get others to join
Nov 16 08:34:31 <usagi>	Now that is news!
Nov 16 08:34:39 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Nov 16 08:36:51 <usagi>	So goat can you speak thai?
Nov 16 08:37:26 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah but not on the forum, i got perma banned
Nov 16 08:37:34 <Chaang-Noi>	not sure if you knew or not
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Nov 16 08:37:52 <usagi>	I don't really get around the forums much these days
Nov 16 08:37:58 <usagi>	I'm in coder mode
Nov 16 08:37:58 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Nov 16 08:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10638 @ 0.00049573 = 5.2736 BTC [+]
Nov 16 08:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25547 @ 0.00049577 = 12.6654 BTC [+]
Nov 16 08:41:18 <usagi>	Oh right
Nov 16 08:41:25 <usagi>	I was going to say.. before I got lost in thought
Nov 16 08:41:37 <usagi>	Or maybe not
Nov 16 08:41:38 <usagi>	Nevermind
Nov 16 08:41:51 <usagi>	I better get back to coding..
Nov 16 08:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00049577 = 5.5526 BTC [+]
Nov 16 08:48:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://alfixturedesign.com/420/BJ.gif hahaha
Nov 16 08:49:57 <kakobrekla>	speaking of waitresses :)
Nov 16 08:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 16 08:50:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.50406, Best ask: 11.56866, Bid-ask spread: 0.06460, Last trade: 11.60000, 24 hour volume: 57628.92532269, 24 hour low: 10.86000, 24 hour high: 11.60000, 24 hour vwap: 11.27755
Nov 16 08:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	over .5
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Nov 16 08:55:05 <kakobrekla>	>>Alberto's explanations of the situation aren't very convincing, but I'm giving him until early December to come up with some form of payment. I'm also exploring legal, law enforcement and other possibilities for escalating this in case this fails.
Nov 16 08:55:11 <kakobrekla>	nothing will come out of this
Nov 16 08:55:16 <kakobrekla>	just like pirate
Nov 16 08:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	is this meni ?
Nov 16 08:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1551 @ 0.00049577 = 0.7689 BTC [+]
Nov 16 08:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00049583 = 13.6353 BTC [+]
Nov 16 08:57:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8758 @ 0.00049584 = 4.3426 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 09:03:29 <EskimoBob>	LOL, look who has crawled out out of his hole
Nov 16 09:03:42 <usagi>	umad?
Nov 16 09:03:45 <EskimoBob>	it's the famous nuter usagi... LOL
Nov 16 09:04:13 <usagi>	Do you know why I haven't been here for a month eb?
Nov 16 09:04:35 <EskimoBob>	I do not care. But probably in madhouse
Nov 16 09:04:39 <usagi>	The correct answer is "no". And there's a good reason for that.
Nov 16 09:04:56 <usagi>	I did not ask you if you cared. I do not care if you care. The answer is no, you do not.
Nov 16 09:05:07 *	usagi sips some coffee.
Nov 16 09:05:14 <EskimoBob>	it was nice without you, you ling sack of shit. Go troll some other channel
Nov 16 09:05:22 <usagi>	Lying? I didn't say anything
Nov 16 09:05:32 <usagi>	I merely pointed out the fact you don't know what happened.
Nov 16 09:05:46 <EskimoBob>	I was told you spent your time in your local madhouse.
Nov 16 09:05:52 <usagi>	And for someone who says they don't care you sure talk a lot.
Nov 16 09:06:03 <EskimoBob>	Looks like they let you out and this is not good for BTC community
Nov 16 09:06:10 <usagi>	umad :)
Nov 16 09:06:37 <EskimoBob>	I guess you spent your last month deleting your posts from the forum
Nov 16 09:06:50 <usagi>	Nope. Keep guessing.
Nov 16 09:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39242 @ 0.00049584 = 19.4578 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00049591 = 8.7528 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:07:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 708 @ 0.00049593 = 0.3511 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:07:08 <EskimoBob>	I do not have to guess.
Nov 16 09:07:08 <usagi>	(for the record, they were deleted before that happened)
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Nov 16 09:07:26 <usagi>	You're right you don't. But seeing as how you seem interested in doing so, be my guest.
Nov 16 09:07:40 <usagi>	I mean, otherwise... why are you talking?
Nov 16 09:07:45 <EskimoBob>	?
Nov 16 09:07:50 <usagi>	Exactly.
Nov 16 09:07:55 <EskimoBob>	take your meds usagi
Nov 16 09:08:03 <usagi>	Talk to the hand, sister.
Nov 16 09:08:07 <usagi>	Talk to the hand.
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Nov 16 09:09:17 <usagi>	I'm guessing this means you don't want 50% off a 6 month membership on kongzi.ca?
Nov 16 09:09:20 <usagi>	:)
Nov 16 09:09:53 <EskimoBob>	why don't you sing to us, Oliver? LOL
Nov 16 09:09:59 <gigavps>	why all the drama
Nov 16 09:10:08 <usagi>	He hates the fact that I won? dunno
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Nov 16 09:10:26 <usagi>	I should probably be coding lol
Nov 16 09:10:31 <EskimoBob>	kongzi.ca ? your new scam? How is nyancat and all that other shit doing?
Nov 16 09:10:43 <usagi>	Well, when GLBSE shutdown without any warning
Nov 16 09:11:02 <usagi>	that was the last I ever heard from Nefario. Dunno -- do I owe you any shares or something?
Nov 16 09:11:09 <usagi>	You got a claim code?
Nov 16 09:12:10 <gigavps>	usagi are you trying to do anything to get the asset holder information?
Nov 16 09:12:26 <usagi>	yeah, I signed in like it said and made a request
Nov 16 09:12:32 <usagi>	left an e-mail address
Nov 16 09:12:36 <gigavps>	anything else?
Nov 16 09:12:41 <usagi>	What else am I supposed to do?
Nov 16 09:12:45 <usagi>	Call him on the phone? lol
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Nov 16 09:13:09 <gigavps>	usagi it's in your best interest to make a good faith effort to retrieve the asset holder information
Nov 16 09:13:14 <usagi>	I have.
Nov 16 09:13:17 <usagi>	In fact
Nov 16 09:13:29 <gigavps>	"good faith" being one of those words lawyers like to use
Nov 16 09:14:01 <usagi>	Any suggestions?
Nov 16 09:14:17 <EskimoBob>	http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=24002&songID=243091 "This one goes out to the delusional Canadian wanker named Oliver Richman. We know we can't fool one such as he with our happy wanderings, because HE knows the Tao (chuckle)."
Nov 16 09:14:24 <gigavps>	you'd be wise to discuss that with your lawyer
Nov 16 09:14:41 <EskimoBob>	Oliver Richman is usagi :)
Nov 16 09:14:48 <usagi>	Actually, funny thing EB
Nov 16 09:14:53 <EskimoBob>	long time troll
Nov 16 09:15:03 <usagi>	If you look at the 3rd link you posted on that issue today... the guy says that it isn't his real name
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Nov 16 09:15:38 <usagi>	Do you even read what you post? lol
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Nov 16 09:16:14 <usagi>	gigavps: If you think I am going to retain a lawyer here in asia to go hunt someone down in the uk over $5k-$10k you're insane
Nov 16 09:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24292 @ 0.00049593 = 12.0471 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:16:39 <usagi>	Apparently Nefario has in fact been sending out info and returning bitcoins
Nov 16 09:16:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00049595 = 8.4559 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:16:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4808 @ 0.00049599 = 2.3847 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:16:56 <usagi>	It's plausable, as he stated in his interview, that I am near the end of the list of people he will deal with
Nov 16 09:18:26 <pigeons>	usagi: where did you hear that nefario has been sending out info?
Nov 16 09:18:48 <usagi>	Didn't he give an interview a couple of weeks ago?
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Nov 16 09:19:02 <gigavps>	i think usagi is delusional
Nov 16 09:19:04 <usagi>	I thought some people on the forums said they had recieved claim codes or bitcoins back?
Nov 16 09:19:35 <usagi>	I've been very sick for the last little while giga.. are you telling me no one has gotten anything?
Nov 16 09:19:51 <gigavps>	usagi some coins were sent out
Nov 16 09:19:54 <gigavps>	no info
Nov 16 09:19:56 <usagi>	See for me this isn't about bitcoins
Nov 16 09:20:10 <usagi>	Everything was just holdings -- all we had were shares
Nov 16 09:20:22 <gigavps>	usagi why did you delete all of your posts?
Nov 16 09:20:51 <usagi>	I didn't delete all of my posts.I left information on the liquidity loan thread so people could see I was still paying back.
Nov 16 09:21:10 <gigavps>	you didn't delete any of your posts?
Nov 16 09:21:21 <usagi>	No I deleted most of them. I just got tired of swearing at eskimobob I guess.
Nov 16 09:21:34 <gigavps>	why delete them?
Nov 16 09:22:28 <usagi>	Well at the time it was probably because I was mad at nefario
Nov 16 09:22:44 <usagi>	and I thought that bitcointalk.org was full of shit because of the loose moderation policies
Nov 16 09:22:44 <gigavps>	that doesn't make any sense
Nov 16 09:22:57 <usagi>	Well do you want me to lay it on the line for you? lol
Nov 16 09:23:05 <usagi>	bitcointalk is a shit forum to do business on
Nov 16 09:23:08 <usagi>	The mods are shit
Nov 16 09:23:09 <gigavps>	please do
Nov 16 09:23:20 <usagi>	Mircea hired people to troll me.
Nov 16 09:23:26 <gigavps>	if bitcointalk is so bad, why are you making another proposal on it?
Nov 16 09:23:37 <usagi>	Giving it another go
Nov 16 09:24:23 <usagi>	I wanted to give something back to the community which added value
Nov 16 09:24:36 <usagi>	So I figured, opening a language school and taking bitcoins would be a good thing to do
Nov 16 09:25:05 <usagi>	It isn't like a security, it's a real business
Nov 16 09:25:18 <usagi>	You know. Make the community a better place
Nov 16 09:25:35 <gigavps>	but you are trying to raise capital
Nov 16 09:25:46 <gigavps>	not just offering the service
Nov 16 09:25:51 <usagi>	Sure
Nov 16 09:25:54 <gigavps>	so you are offering a security
Nov 16 09:25:58 <usagi>	I'll sell you a product I have created
Nov 16 09:26:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00049599 = 7.3159 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:26:28 <usagi>	Nope. I made a post offering presales and advertising that I would take a personal loan over it.
Nov 16 09:26:55 <gigavps>	so you are not offering ownership in the company?
Nov 16 09:27:02 <usagi>	Nope.
Nov 16 09:27:19 <gigavps>	most information marketing businesses need to give a lot of stuff away for free to attract customers
Nov 16 09:27:35 <gigavps>	or give the apperance that they are giving information away
Nov 16 09:27:39 <usagi>	Well, this is something a little special :)
Nov 16 09:28:03 <gigavps>	everyone thinks they are special and what they are doing is special
Nov 16 09:28:03 <usagi>	For one, I'm going to have an existing customer base as soon as I flesh it out a little.. I teach over 500 students here in asia
Nov 16 09:28:15 <usagi>	Further, I don't know if you study Japanese, but...
Nov 16 09:28:22 <gigavps>	maybe you focus on that
Nov 16 09:28:24 <usagi>	the textbooks available in english are extremely outdated
Nov 16 09:28:37 <usagi>	Have you heard of Dr. Stephen Krashen?
Nov 16 09:28:58 <usagi>	I've been applying his theories of language accquisiton to my teaching over the past few years and it's really turned out well.
Nov 16 09:29:23 <usagi>	Here in Asia there is a huge, absolutely stunning, amount of modern instruction material available.. loads and loads of beginner reading material for example
Nov 16 09:29:37 <usagi>	There are magazines which do nothing but pump out articles and dialogue with a 500 word vocabulary
Nov 16 09:29:54 <usagi>	I want to provide people the same level of quality and the same amount of material when they are learning Japanese or Chinese, in english.
Nov 16 09:30:03 <usagi>	No one really does that.... I've looked around
Nov 16 09:30:14 <usagi>	That will be my edge.
Nov 16 09:32:28 <pigeons>	ok take it to #bitcoin-languages
Nov 16 09:32:32 <usagi>	I don't know if you want one, but you're welcome to a free lifetime account gigavps :)
Nov 16 09:33:02 <usagi>	I'm working on it.. right now
Nov 16 09:33:07 <EskimoBob>	you forgot to mention your deep knowledge of Tao
Nov 16 09:33:08 <gigavps>	no thanks
Nov 16 09:33:29 <usagi>	Actually EskimoBob, I do know a lot about taoism and buddhism, but I don't expect you would be interested in those subjects
Nov 16 09:34:42 <usagi>	Well giga, it's there for you if you want it. I plan to make kongzi.ca the best online language school ever
Nov 16 09:34:53 <usagi>	Although I must admit I am jealous of yesjapan's branding  :) it's very good
Nov 16 09:34:59 <EskimoBob>	friend for life?
Nov 16 09:35:11 <EskimoBob>	like NYAN* and all the other crap you sold?
Nov 16 09:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10699 @ 0.00049599 = 5.3066 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26751 @ 0.00049599 = 13.2682 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:35:50 <usagi>	nyan was just holding other issues on the GLBSE, eskimobob
Nov 16 09:36:56 <usagi>	Notably
Nov 16 09:37:00 <usagi>	No one has given me any claim codes
Nov 16 09:37:10 <usagi>	So I think you see what a cluster this is for everyone involved
Nov 16 09:37:18 <usagi>	Not a single person has even said I owe them anything
Nov 16 09:37:26 <usagi>	Even without having a way to prove it
Nov 16 09:44:42 <EskimoBob>	you owe me about 86.87 BTC
Nov 16 09:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9676 @ 0.00049599 = 4.7992 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:44:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2224 @ 0.00049601 = 1.1031 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 09:48:36 <EskimoBob>	send the coin you wow me to 1KKXSed3ePq6FhUu52zSLR22v8V9v3jQik
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Nov 16 09:48:51 <usagi>	Can you prove it?
Nov 16 09:48:56 <EskimoBob>	and you can have your shares back
Nov 16 09:49:17 <EskimoBob>	my word is my proof
Nov 16 09:49:33 <usagi>	You are actually a good example of why this is a bad situation. Without actual codes, people like you will make dishonest claims.
Nov 16 09:50:09 <EskimoBob>	I am not a thieve nor dishonest and you know that
Nov 16 09:50:31 <usagi>	No, I don't.
Nov 16 09:50:34 <usagi>	I have no proof either way.
Nov 16 09:50:46 <EskimoBob>	usagi  You are actually a good example of why this is a bad situation. Without actual codes, people like you bullshit forever and never pay
Nov 16 09:50:54 <usagi>	Pay what?
Nov 16 09:51:01 <usagi>	All we did was hold shares of other companies bro
Nov 16 09:51:12 <usagi>	All you can be "paid" is the assets themselves
Nov 16 09:51:36 <pigeons>	what about the companies insured by your insurance company?
Nov 16 09:51:39 <usagi>	And I would LOVE to give them to you
Nov 16 09:51:42 <usagi>	But
Nov 16 09:52:02 <usagi>	I don't have them. The same problem exists for me. If I go to gigavps and say bro, you owe me 500 shares of gigamining wheres my dividends
Nov 16 09:52:08 <usagi>	he would be like.. can you prove it?
Nov 16 09:52:26 <pigeons>	yeah but he's working on it
Nov 16 09:52:44 <usagi>	pigeons: Well, bakewell defaulted on his contract, so did bitcoinmininginvestments
Nov 16 09:52:52 <usagi>	everyone else stopped paying when glbse shut down
Nov 16 09:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29895 @ 0.00049601 = 14.8282 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24750 @ 0.00049603 = 12.2767 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12805 @ 0.00049606 = 6.352 BTC [+]
Nov 16 09:54:46 <usagi>	pigeons: who's working on what
Nov 16 09:55:24 <usagi>	Do you understand, that I can't even give someone a claim on an asset if they cannot prove they are the person who has claim to it?
Nov 16 09:55:32 <usagi>	Second point, I don't even have the assets myself
Nov 16 09:55:36 <pigeons>	gigavps is working on what to do right now in the case that has happened where nefario refuses to provide asset info
Nov 16 09:55:39 <EskimoBob>	usagi: you little shit swindled a assload of coin from investors and you are too cheap to call James? WTF!?
Nov 16 09:55:45 <usagi>	I would be rich by now if I had the income from the investments
Nov 16 09:55:47 <usagi>	but I don't
Nov 16 09:56:16 <pigeons>	no i dont think you'd be rich with your OBSI.HYPT
Nov 16 09:56:22 <usagi>	EskimoBob: You're retarded lol. I just told you we didn't really have any bitcoins. Mainly just assets.
Nov 16 09:56:54 <EskimoBob>	you pissed away 7500 BTC (or was is closer to 8K). Cancel the fkn rig orders
Nov 16 09:57:10 <usagi>	Well pigeons look around, you, and eb, both are showing how little you really understand about what happened
Nov 16 09:57:13 <EskimoBob>	and start paying back the coin
Nov 16 09:58:05 <EskimoBob>	do not tell me asshat you have no coin.
Nov 16 09:58:24 <usagi>	I didn't run a miner like YABMC, eb. I had no physical assets. Everything was just holdings on GLBSE.
Nov 16 09:58:37 <usagi>	I did not have a direct relationship with anyone.
Nov 16 09:58:42 <usagi>	You get that, right?
Nov 16 09:58:48 <EskimoBob>	are you telling me you never preordered those rigs you had in your spreadsheets?
Nov 16 09:58:56 <usagi>	Rigs? lol
Nov 16 09:59:07 <usagi>	You mean the 2 fpgas and an asic, and a couple of japapenos?
Nov 16 09:59:08 <Diablo-D3>	what rigs?
Nov 16 09:59:17 <EskimoBob>	yes those
Nov 16 09:59:18 <usagi>	Yeah, one FPGA has arrived
Nov 16 09:59:33 <EskimoBob>	prove it
Nov 16 09:59:35 <usagi>	It isn't "rigs" or even "a rig".
Nov 16 09:59:40 <usagi>	I don't have to prove it lol
Nov 16 09:59:49 <usagi>	I don't think you get how this works
Nov 16 09:59:57 <EskimoBob>	yes asshole, you do have to prove it
Nov 16 10:00:03 <usagi>	Nope :P
Nov 16 10:00:23 <usagi>	I don't owe YOU anything. Or am I wrong? Do you have a way to prove your interest in, say, BMF?
Nov 16 10:00:26 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: you're not a shareholder in Fantasy Bullshit, Inc
Nov 16 10:00:28 <Diablo-D3>	so no, he doesnt have to prove it
Nov 16 10:00:59 <usagi>	See the problem with you is, you're a clueless idiot. There are actually people I *do* owe money to, and I maintain contact with them in PMs on bitcointalk and in e-mail
Nov 16 10:01:01 <usagi>	And I send them bitcoins
Nov 16 10:01:32 <usagi>	And all of those people have happily sent me proof of their interest
Nov 16 10:02:04 <usagi>	You DO understand I need more than "remember that five bucks you owe me", right?
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Nov 16 10:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23445 @ 0.00049606 = 11.6301 BTC [+]
Nov 16 10:03:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14855 @ 0.00049608 = 7.3693 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 10:03:54 <EskimoBob>	lol
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Nov 16 10:09:42 <thestringpuller>	usagi you claim such great things, yet smickles was very displeased with how you went about repaying him. he said to never do business with you, and he would personally never do business with you again.
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Nov 16 10:11:31 <usagi>	Yep
Nov 16 10:11:33 <usagi>	He did.
Nov 16 10:11:40 <usagi>	I would also not do business with smickles as wel.
Nov 16 10:11:52 <usagi>	However, everyone else I've done business with has rated me positively on otc
Nov 16 10:12:24 <usagi>	Consider it a vote. Smickles voted no; I have to live with that. I take it with a grain of salt.. there are almost 30 votes in the opposite direction :)
Nov 16 10:12:28 <Diablo-D3>	man
Nov 16 10:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00049608 = 5.8041 BTC [+]
Nov 16 10:12:37 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if anyone is going to upload a camrip of eva 3.0
Nov 16 10:12:45 <thestringpuller>	smickles is highly regarded
Nov 16 10:13:01 <thestringpuller>	why should i not trust what he says?
Nov 16 10:13:19 <usagi>	Because smickles is not the only person who is highly regarded.
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Nov 16 10:13:37 <usagi>	I dun get where you're coming from anyway, did I offer to do business with you?
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Nov 16 10:14:29 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: trolling and bullshitting in the internet is nothing new to usagi. Hes experience is probably over 10 year
Nov 16 10:14:57 <EskimoBob>	he used to do similar shit in other forums
Nov 16 10:15:17 <EskimoBob>	https://www.google.com/search?q=usagi+%22Oliver+Richman%22 enjoy
Nov 16 10:15:23 <thestringpuller>	so this is all one big conspiracy?
Nov 16 10:15:36 <thestringpuller>	everyone is rigging the game against usagi?
Nov 16 10:15:38 <usagi>	Yes. EskimoBob is retarded and we are humoring him. Play along ;-)
Nov 16 10:15:40 <EskimoBob>	only good thing you or anyone else can do is just ignore that scumbag
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Nov 16 10:15:49 <usagi>	Everyone? lol
Nov 16 10:16:45 <usagi>	http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Usagi
Nov 16 10:17:05 <usagi>	if you actually look at the people who I actually do business with
Nov 16 10:17:14 <usagi>	I have a really good OTC rating
Nov 16 10:17:23 <EskimoBob>	did, usagi. did
Nov 16 10:17:53 <usagi>	User eskimobob, rated since Sat Jun  4 09:35:57 2011. Cumulative rating -3, from 5 total ratings.
Nov 16 10:17:53 <EskimoBob>	and after you lost 7.5K of investors coin...
Nov 16 10:17:55 <usagi>	Oops ;-)
Nov 16 10:17:57 <usagi>	User eskimobob, rated since Sat Jun  4 09:35:57 2011. Cumulative rating -3, from 5 total ratings.
Nov 16 10:18:04 <usagi>	usagi 31 eskimobob -5
Nov 16 10:18:04 <usagi>	lol
Nov 16 10:18:08 <usagi>	Suck it up fuzzball
Nov 16 10:18:16 <usagi>	No one believes your shit :)
Nov 16 10:18:23 <EskimoBob>	look who rated me with -, you stupid little man :)
Nov 16 10:18:33 <usagi>	Well you scammed me
Nov 16 10:18:36 <usagi>	You broke your contract
Nov 16 10:18:38 <EskimoBob>	did I ?
Nov 16 10:18:39 <usagi>	What did you expect?
Nov 16 10:18:46 <EskimoBob>	you really want to start that shit again?
Nov 16 10:18:48 <usagi>	Yeah do you want me to link your scam accusation post?
Nov 16 10:19:06 <usagi>	Well EskimoBob, there's 2 ways forward aren't there. We can go through this again
Nov 16 10:19:08 <usagi>	And I will
Nov 16 10:19:10 <EskimoBob>	go read the scam thread you posted and stfu. you lost
Nov 16 10:19:11 <usagi>	Or you can think
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Nov 16 10:19:26 <usagi>	"Why am I wasting my life bitching on IRC again?"
Nov 16 10:19:53 <thestringpuller>	there is a saying in the orient
Nov 16 10:20:02 <thestringpuller>	loyalty to the end
Nov 16 10:20:07 <EskimoBob>	go waste it somewhere else usagi, please!
Nov 16 10:20:30 <usagi>	usagi 31 eskimobob -5 <-- believe who you like thestingpuller :) That is what makes us human.
Nov 16 10:20:38 <usagi>	or -3, sorry lol
Nov 16 10:20:43 <usagi>	Not that it matters
Nov 16 10:20:58 <thestringpuller>	i believe in those who believe in me
Nov 16 10:21:06 <pigeons>	i believe in crystal light
Nov 16 10:21:10 <thestringpuller>	i trust smickles who i am loyal to
Nov 16 10:21:22 <thestringpuller>	because he has been good to me
Nov 16 10:21:32 <thestringpuller>	all i see here is you igniting flames
Nov 16 10:21:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18895 @ 0.00049608 = 9.3734 BTC [+]
Nov 16 10:21:49 <usagi>	Hmm?
Nov 16 10:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18105 @ 0.00049609 = 8.9817 BTC [+]
Nov 16 10:22:02 <usagi>	I'm just talking about my website bro
Nov 16 10:22:11 <pigeons>	its offtopic here usagi
Nov 16 10:22:27 <copumpkin>	don't taze me
Nov 16 10:22:32 <usagi>	Lol, how long have you been here pigeons?
Nov 16 10:22:40 <pigeons>	usagi: longer than you
Nov 16 10:22:47 <thestringpuller>	duolingo will be the next big language space
Nov 16 10:22:49 <usagi>	In the last six months I've only seen kako/etc ask ONE person to take a conversation elsewhere
Nov 16 10:23:04 <copumpkin>	that's cause kako is a huge pussy
Nov 16 10:23:04 <usagi>	Yeah exactly pigeons, so you are going to pull the offtopic line on me, lol
Nov 16 10:23:55 <pigeons>	only thing on topic about it is that people are upset with you when you tried to run some bitcoin assets
Nov 16 10:24:10 <usagi>	You're welcome to talk about that
Nov 16 10:24:14 <thestringpuller>	which seems to be a motif
Nov 16 10:24:23 <copumpkin>	the motif that motifates me
Nov 16 10:24:25 <thestringpuller>	so who are these people so pleased with your work?
Nov 16 10:24:27 <usagi>	I actually got a lot of praise for being the first person to run weekly letters to shareholders and publish my holdings online
Nov 16 10:24:36 <thestringpuller>	i am merely a skeptic searching for the truth
Nov 16 10:24:59 <pigeons>	i'm not gonna /ignore, im just gonna change the channel
Nov 16 10:25:04 <thestringpuller>	"is this your homework larry"
Nov 16 10:26:59 <mod6>	THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS LARRY
Nov 16 10:27:09 <thestringpuller>	:)
Nov 16 10:27:14 <mod6>	haha
Nov 16 10:27:20 <thestringpuller>	my day is made
Nov 16 10:27:20 <usagi>	thestringpuller: What kind of truth?
Nov 16 10:27:30 <thestringpuller>	the truth about the aliens
Nov 16 10:27:37 <thestringpuller>	is that where the money went?
Nov 16 10:29:57 <usagi>	Not sure. Want to learn some Japanese?
Nov 16 10:31:14 <copumpkin>	もちろん
Nov 16 10:32:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00049603 = 4.3651 BTC [-]
Nov 16 10:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00049609 = 5.5314 BTC [+]
Nov 16 10:33:39 <kakobrekla>	16:23.10 ( copumpkin ) that's cause kako is a huge pussy <- see that is exactly why i didnt give you op privilege, nano on the other hand got it.
Nov 16 10:34:59 <copumpkin>	lol
Nov 16 10:35:14 <copumpkin>	I'm not much of a hardass
Nov 16 10:35:30 <usagi>	copumpkin, wanna take a cool, fun and easy Japanese quiz?
Nov 16 10:35:30 <kakobrekla>	well i guess you would have banned usagi already
Nov 16 10:35:36 <kakobrekla>	and others ?
Nov 16 10:35:41 <copumpkin>	nah
Nov 16 10:35:45 <copumpkin>	I'm not much of a banner
Nov 16 10:36:22 <usagi>	I guess it would be boring to you, since your Japanese is so good :/
Nov 16 10:36:26 <usagi>	I put a lot of work into it tho :>
Nov 16 10:36:42 <kakobrekla>	so how am i a pussy again then?
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Nov 16 10:36:53 <copumpkin>	kakobrekla: oh, you just are
Nov 16 10:37:13 <copumpkin>	usagi: I'd probably fail it :) I haven't spoken japanese in 6 years now, and just remember random shit
Nov 16 10:37:42 <kakobrekla>	to me it looks like you are the pussy who cant handle usagi
Nov 16 10:37:47 <Diablo-D3>	watashiwa nihongo ga wakarimasen :<
Nov 16 10:38:05 <usagi>	i consider copumpkin as a friend.
Nov 16 10:38:13 <copumpkin>	kakobrekla: why would I need to "handle" usagi?
Nov 16 10:38:22 <copumpkin>	even if I were an op :P
Nov 16 10:38:30 <Diablo-D3>	have we even confirmed usagi has a handle?
Nov 16 10:38:39 *	copumpkin picks usagi up by the handle
Nov 16 10:38:48 <usagi>	ouch my ears
Nov 16 10:39:28 <Diablo-D3>	... what are your ears doing down there?
Nov 16 10:39:46 <usagi>	Diablo, usagi means rabbit in Japanese~
Nov 16 10:40:00 <usagi>	They are down there because rabbits are small.
Nov 16 10:40:13 <usagi>	and close to the earth
Nov 16 10:40:28 <Diablo-D3>	yes, Im aware of what usagi means, but that doesnt answer the question
Nov 16 10:40:37 <kakobrekla>	what is the problem then copumpkin?
Nov 16 10:40:42 <Diablo-D3>	so unless you seriously have your head up your ass...
Nov 16 10:40:43 <copumpkin>	no problem!
Nov 16 10:40:53 <kakobrekla>	k
Nov 16 10:41:14 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: explain to me something
Nov 16 10:41:26 *	copumpkin hugs kakobrekla 
Nov 16 10:41:29 <copumpkin>	to me, pussy is a compliment
Nov 16 10:41:35 <copumpkin>	I consider myself a pussy too
Nov 16 10:41:40 <kakobrekla>	to me its something id fuck.
Nov 16 10:41:42 <Diablo-D3>	why the fuck did strike witches marry the eternal loli panty shot to semi-accurate WW2 trivia.
Nov 16 10:41:55 <copumpkin>	kakobrekla: presumably that's a good thing
Nov 16 10:42:04 <usagi>	what is strike witches? some kind of ero?
Nov 16 10:42:07 <kakobrekla>	arite.
Nov 16 10:42:16 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: you're kidding me.
Nov 16 10:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17345 @ 0.00049609 = 8.6047 BTC [+]
Nov 16 10:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7755 @ 0.00049612 = 3.8474 BTC [+]
Nov 16 10:42:23 <Diablo-D3>	go away kid, you bother me.
Nov 16 10:42:33 <usagi>	i watch three animes. Three. 1. Akira. 2. Project A-Ko. 3. Gunbuster.
Nov 16 10:42:50 <Diablo-D3>	mmmm project a-ko
Nov 16 10:42:58 <copumpkin>	so, RIP twinkies?
Nov 16 10:43:11 <Diablo-D3>	copumpkin: rip twinkies
Nov 16 10:43:15 <Diablo-D3>	time to destroy unions
Nov 16 10:43:27 <copumpkin>	twinkIe twinkIe little star
Nov 16 10:43:33 <copumpkin>	get it? get it?
Nov 16 10:43:36 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: also, no gits?
Nov 16 10:43:42 *	Diablo-D3 lights copumpkin on fire
Nov 16 10:43:42 <copumpkin>	I used an uppercase I and exploited shitty fonts
Nov 16 10:43:58 <usagi>	I watch a lot of older stuff like bubblegum crisis too
Nov 16 10:44:00 *	copumpkin is flaming retarded
Nov 16 10:44:09 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: but no gits?!
Nov 16 10:44:12 <Diablo-D3>	wtf man
Nov 16 10:44:12 <usagi>	Thats what gets me going. I can barely watch any of the new stuff
Nov 16 10:44:14 <copumpkin>	git init
Nov 16 10:44:29 <copumpkin>	git add HAHAIMINURHISTORY
Nov 16 10:44:32 <copumpkin>	git commit -m "HAHA"
Nov 16 10:44:34 <usagi>	I like kimagure orange road.. and ranma
Nov 16 10:44:38 <pigeons>	rebase
Nov 16 10:44:38 <copumpkin>	oh wait, I forgot -a!
Nov 16 10:44:42 <usagi>	I also like mahou no tenshi creamy mami
Nov 16 10:44:48 <Diablo-D3>	copumpkin: fail!
Nov 16 10:44:56 <pigeons>	mmm creamy mami
Nov 16 10:44:56 <copumpkin>	too much mercurial these days at work
Nov 16 10:44:57 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: you pervert.
Nov 16 10:45:12 <Diablo-D3>	copumpkin: fuck ALL the mercurials
Nov 16 10:45:14 <copumpkin>	my new job will use git though
Nov 16 10:45:23 <Diablo-D3>	Im so fresh, hg can suck my nuts
Nov 16 10:45:28 <copumpkin>	I'm not too opinionated on the hg/git divide
Nov 16 10:45:35 <copumpkin>	I mostly prefer git for personal use
Nov 16 10:45:54 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: AND NO EVA?!
Nov 16 10:45:58 <Diablo-D3>	you suck at anime forever.
Nov 16 10:46:06 <copumpkin>	BUT THEN WHO WAS PHONE?
Nov 16 10:46:44 <usagi>	eva?
Nov 16 10:46:52 <copumpkin>	evangelion
Nov 16 10:46:54 <copumpkin>	NEON GENESIS
Nov 16 10:46:56 <usagi>	You mean Evangelion? naw. Too commercial.
Nov 16 10:46:59 <copumpkin>	IT'S LIKE TOTALLY DEEP MAN
Nov 16 10:47:05 <copumpkin>	IT HAS RELIGIOUS REFERENCES AND SHIT
Nov 16 10:47:17 <usagi>	My room-mate in Japan had it on laserdisc. I couldn't get past the cat girl. Oh, it was good
Nov 16 10:47:25 <usagi>	But not something I found myself falling for
Nov 16 10:47:37 <Diablo-D3>	cat... girl?
Nov 16 10:47:44 <usagi>	I heard everyone dies in the end.
Nov 16 10:47:50 <Diablo-D3>	eva has no feline females.
Nov 16 10:47:56 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: EVERYONE DIES IN THE END!
Nov 16 10:48:03 <usagi>	There's no cat girl in evangelion?
Nov 16 10:48:03 <Diablo-D3>	or to put it more accurately, they turn into tang.
Nov 16 10:48:15 <Diablo-D3>	there is no cat girl in evangelion
Nov 16 10:48:23 <usagi>	Weird, maybe I'm thinking of something else
Nov 16 10:48:32 <Diablo-D3>	you are.
Nov 16 10:48:33 <usagi>	There's this girl who can jump really far or something
Nov 16 10:48:38 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: also, NO TENCHI?!
Nov 16 10:48:49 <Diablo-D3>	no, no girl who can jump far.
Nov 16 10:48:50 <usagi>	There is a LOT of anime diablo
Nov 16 10:49:04 <Diablo-D3>	there is a lot of anime, and I have seen... well... a fucking lot of it.
Nov 16 10:49:26 <usagi>	It's not odd to find someone who has not seen evangelion but if you were into anime I would be suprised if you hadn't seen any of the true classics like KOR
Nov 16 10:49:29 <usagi>	or in that vein
Nov 16 10:49:56 <Diablo-D3>	Ive seen a lot of the classics
Nov 16 10:49:59 <Diablo-D3>	hell, I watched macross.
Nov 16 10:50:04 <Diablo-D3>	not robotech, but macross.
Nov 16 10:50:14 <Diablo-D3>	and yes, the animation falls apart near the end
Nov 16 10:50:15 <usagi>	I also have never seen prince of tennis, bleach, or full metal alchemist. And likely never will
Nov 16 10:50:31 <usagi>	The new macross frontier is pretty good imo
Nov 16 10:50:32 <Diablo-D3>	watch full metal alchemist brotherhood
Nov 16 10:50:46 <usagi>	I'd rather watch hikaru no go again
Nov 16 10:50:47 <Diablo-D3>	put that at the head of your list
Nov 16 10:51:01 <Diablo-D3>	there are very few animes that I consider 5 stars
Nov 16 10:51:06 <Diablo-D3>	5 stars means I will watch it again
Nov 16 10:51:12 <usagi>	Black Magic M-66?
Nov 16 10:51:15 <Diablo-D3>	4 merely means I found it worth my time, but not worth watching again
Nov 16 10:51:27 <Diablo-D3>	fmab is a 5 star.
Nov 16 10:51:32 <usagi>	Have you seen the original appleseed?
Nov 16 10:51:32 <Diablo-D3>	Ive seen black magic m66
Nov 16 10:51:41 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, and the original appleseed
Nov 16 10:51:46 <usagi>	Hmm
Nov 16 10:51:54 <usagi>	You are pretty advanced at anime then I take it
Nov 16 10:52:05 <usagi>	Maybe I will give eva and fmab another chance, then.
Nov 16 10:52:12 <usagi>	Have you seen tampopo?
Nov 16 10:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2645 @ 0.00049612 = 1.3122 BTC [+]
Nov 16 10:52:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24029 @ 0.00049615 = 11.922 BTC [+]
Nov 16 10:52:23 <usagi>	It's not an anime but.. it's good
Nov 16 10:53:36 <Diablo-D3>	I havent
Nov 16 10:54:41 <usagi>	Ok, I'll watch fmab if you watch tampopo :)
Nov 16 10:55:07 <usagi>	Here's a link to the entire movie on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZHBD1e5rc0
Nov 16 10:55:14 <usagi>	it's important.
Nov 16 10:55:46 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Nov 16 10:55:51 <Diablo-D3>	Ill watch it later
Nov 16 10:56:10 <Diablo-D3>	busy torrenting kamen rider fourze
Nov 16 10:56:14 <usagi>	omg
Nov 16 10:56:19 <usagi>	You watch kamen rider!?!?
Nov 16 10:56:58 <usagi>	Do you like miyuu sawaii?
Nov 16 10:57:40 <Diablo-D3>	why wouldnt I watch kamen rider
Nov 16 10:57:45 <usagi>	That is very kakkoi I must say
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Nov 16 10:58:26 <usagi>	I never knew you were into all the right anime, diablo.
Nov 16 10:59:05 <Diablo-D3>	I run miotd.com for christ's sakes
Nov 16 11:00:03 <Diablo-D3>	which reminds me, I need to do today's image
Nov 16 11:00:10 <pigeons>	awww a new relationship thanks to #bitcoin-assets
Nov 16 11:00:25 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: usagi is already an investor in my company
Nov 16 11:00:39 <pigeons>	prove it ;)
Nov 16 11:00:47 <usagi>	I can't.
Nov 16 11:00:53 <Diablo-D3>	NEFARRRIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nov 16 11:01:14 <usagi>	I really should get back to coding.
Nov 16 11:01:26 <Diablo-D3>	so should I
Nov 16 11:01:31 <Diablo-D3>	seaking isnt writing itself
Nov 16 11:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18483 @ 0.00049615 = 9.1703 BTC [+]
Nov 16 11:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0004962 = 3.8207 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 11:50:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7168 @ 0.00049625 = 3.5571 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 11:59:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00049628 = 2.0844 BTC [+]
Nov 16 12:03:50 <mircea_popescu>	new hampshire population dropping at accelerating rate as millions unable to live free die.
Nov 16 12:08:04 <lucidlepidoptera>	https://btcjam.com/listings/584
Nov 16 12:09:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168 @ 0.00049628 = 0.0834 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 12:28:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15065 @ 0.00049635 = 7.4775 BTC [+]
Nov 16 12:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13765 @ 0.00049638 = 6.8327 BTC [+]
Nov 16 12:35:40 *	smickles hopes his paperwork comes today
Nov 16 12:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	o/
Nov 16 12:36:22 <smickles>	kakobrekla: oh, that was about that docracy thing
Nov 16 12:36:28 <smickles>	\o
Nov 16 12:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	patrick harnett is scamtagged ?!
Nov 16 12:36:51 <smickles>	well, he stopped paying s2cm apparantly
Nov 16 12:37:09 <jurov>	got also #1 place in google
Nov 16 12:37:15 <jurov>	for scammer tag
Nov 16 12:37:34 <kakobrekla>	lol
Nov 16 12:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	well this went well. time to talk to his professional authority nao.
Nov 16 12:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9355 @ 0.00049638 = 4.6436 BTC [+]
Nov 16 12:38:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34745 @ 0.0004964 = 17.2474 BTC [+]
Nov 16 12:41:46 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 16 12:41:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.72902, Best ask: 11.77990, Bid-ask spread: 0.05088, Last trade: 11.78000, 24 hour volume: 66220.00854085, 24 hour low: 10.94020, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.35859
Nov 16 12:41:55 <smickles>	guuuh?
Nov 16 12:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	smickles aren't you sorry you didn't buy all those btc at 10.02 nao :p
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Nov 16 12:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11505 @ 0.0004964 = 5.7111 BTC [+]
Nov 16 12:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21652 @ 0.00049645 = 10.7491 BTC [+]
Nov 16 12:48:10 <jurov>	apparently #bitcoin-otc is obsolete now? http://bitcoinpolice.org/t29-Welcome-BitcoinPolice.org.html
Nov 16 12:48:21 <smickles>	heh, maybe i could've setup a synthetic long position
Nov 16 12:50:20 <smickles>	jurov: well, schucks
Nov 16 12:51:01 <jurov>	?
Nov 16 12:51:34 <smickles>	I liked -otc
Nov 16 12:52:01 <jurov>	"Post you shoe-on-head ID photograph here." lmao
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Nov 16 12:52:23 <smickles>	oh lol, i see that now
Nov 16 12:53:17 <smickles>	oh bad form
Nov 16 12:53:49 <smickles>	they have 'otc reputation: xxx' next to user names
Nov 16 12:53:55 <smickles>	and it's cumulative score
Nov 16 12:54:00 <smickles>	badbadbad
Nov 16 12:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-patrick-harnett-saga-continues/
Nov 16 12:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	moar juicy.
Nov 16 12:54:08 <mod6>	i still <3 otc
Nov 16 12:54:11 <jurov>	mpoe-pr on them!
Nov 16 12:54:47 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i think that name is entirely ridiculous
Nov 16 12:55:07 <jurov>	whole thing is ridiculous
Nov 16 12:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	"bitcoin police" heh. why not "bitcoin canadian mounties"
Nov 16 12:55:22 <mircea_popescu>	they ride on an elk named bit
Nov 16 12:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26548 @ 0.00049645 = 13.1798 BTC [+]
Nov 16 12:56:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00049647 = 6.1562 BTC [+]
Nov 16 12:56:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4652 @ 0.00049648 = 2.3096 BTC [+]
Nov 16 12:57:51 <jurov>	hey MrTiggr, u listening?
Nov 16 12:58:04 <smickles>	oooh, getting PH's bosses involved
Nov 16 12:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	well ofcourse.
Nov 16 12:59:47 <smickles>	lol, i go to that srgexpert site, and the very top of the page is a line of text that says "FAIL..."
Nov 16 13:00:09 <smickles>	"FAIL (the browser should render some flash content, not this)." << in context
Nov 16 13:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Nov 16 13:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	kinda funny, i had a chuckle myself.
Nov 16 13:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	possibly the last thing those people expect to find in their inbox as they go to work monday.
Nov 16 13:04:33 <jurov>	;;ticker
Nov 16 13:04:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.69000, Best ask: 11.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 11.71199, 24 hour volume: 67417.32414705, 24 hour low: 10.94020, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.36874
Nov 16 13:05:07 <mod6>	whooop!
Nov 16 13:05:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00049648 = 10.4261 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 13:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2561 @ 0.00049648 = 1.2715 BTC [+]
Nov 16 13:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32639 @ 0.00049648 = 16.2046 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 13:19:04 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1338371#msg1338371 lol
Nov 16 13:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Nov 16 13:22:00 <smickles>	heh, it sounded like a good point as i read it, it was jut very humorous too :)
Nov 16 13:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124461.msg1339294#msg1339294
Nov 16 13:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	Use your brain and third-party reputation services to determine who to trust. Do not rely on the forum itself. The forum staff doesn't spend much time on scam accusations, so the forum does a very poor job of keeping up with scammers. A for-profit company should deal with this stuff. Or at least a non-profit organization of people who are actually interested in spending a lot of time to fight scams (unlike me).
Nov 16 13:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	the man doth have a point.
Nov 16 13:23:46 <smickles>	did 'the girl' point out that post to bitcoininv who claimed to rely on the forum for reputation and shun the WoT?
Nov 16 13:24:00 <smickles>	*that's 'World of Tanks' btw ;)
Nov 16 13:24:05 <mircea_popescu>	i guess she should huh
Nov 16 13:24:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3211 @ 0.00049648 = 1.5942 BTC [+]
Nov 16 13:24:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00049656 = 12.3643 BTC [+]
Nov 16 13:24:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9140 @ 0.0004966 = 4.5389 BTC [+]
Nov 16 13:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	tho i'm sure he has a clever retort.
Nov 16 13:25:02 <smickles>	clever is not necessarily reality
Nov 16 13:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	indeed :p
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Nov 16 13:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.0004966 = 3.5755 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 13:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37017 @ 0.0004966 = 18.3826 BTC [+]
Nov 16 13:43:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00049663 = 5.6864 BTC [+]
Nov 16 13:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1461 @ 0.00049665 = 0.7256 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 13:45:05 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Smickles
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Nov 16 13:45:16 <smickles>	suprisingly, not entirely written by me
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Nov 16 13:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3420 @ 0.00049665 = 1.6985 BTC [+]
Nov 16 13:52:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10530 @ 0.00049667 = 5.2299 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 14:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10470 @ 0.00049667 = 5.2001 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:01:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5480 @ 0.00049669 = 2.7219 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:04:17 <thestringpuller>	lord smickles
Nov 16 14:04:22 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 16 14:05:15 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu your prediction was correct. Harnett defaulted. would you like your winnings in lollipops?
Nov 16 14:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12220 @ 0.00049669 = 6.0696 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31030 @ 0.00049674 = 15.4138 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:15:46 <BTCHero>	harnett made an announcement?
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Nov 16 14:18:47 <pigeons>	actually mircea_popescu predicted that harnett would not default, so mircea deposited coins with patrick. mircea was wrong, patrick did default, and mircea did not get the coins harnett owed him
Nov 16 14:21:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14556 @ 0.00049674 = 7.2305 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31255 @ 0.00049677 = 15.5265 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4431 @ 0.0004968 = 2.2013 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:22:05 *	smickles is selling calls and puts @ 12
Nov 16 14:22:09 <smickles>	thestringpuller: ^
Nov 16 14:22:13 <smickles>	only a few tho
Nov 16 14:22:30 <smickles>	most of my positions are entered into at the beginning of the month
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Nov 16 14:28:19 <thestringpuller>	what is your premium smickles?
Nov 16 14:28:27 <smickles>	< BTCHero> harnett made an announcement? << well, you don't need to make an announcement to default, you just need to not fullfill a contract
Nov 16 14:28:42 <smickles>	er, s/contract/obligation/
Nov 16 14:28:56 <smickles>	thestringpuller: on the options? I've listed them on mpex
Nov 16 14:29:03 <smickles>	i'll post the link if you want
Nov 16 14:29:07 <thestringpuller>	i see
Nov 16 14:29:09 <thestringpuller>	them
Nov 16 14:29:11 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Nov 16 14:29:18 <BTCHero>	well yeah, I just didn't know if he actually said it
Nov 16 14:29:34 <BTCHero>	funny thing is, he paid me more than I originally gave him before he quit paying
Nov 16 14:29:35 <thestringpuller>	can you use what I still have being held with you
Nov 16 14:29:37 <smickles>	BTCHero: kk :), i'm mostly a pedant here
Nov 16 14:29:41 <BTCHero>	I was almost closed out
Nov 16 14:29:51 <thestringpuller>	~2 btc with you
Nov 16 14:30:17 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yeah, it would be off the mpex books tho
Nov 16 14:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27501 @ 0.0004968 = 13.6625 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:30:38 <smickles>	3.3618677
Nov 16 14:30:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5801 @ 0.0004968 = 2.8819 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:30:47 <smickles>	the that's how much you have with me
Nov 16 14:31:42 <smickles>	heh, thestringpuller if we do an otc option, then I can give you a 0.2% discount :)
Nov 16 14:32:42 <thestringpuller>	i gained interest?
Nov 16 14:32:44 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 16 14:33:10 <smickles>	thestringpuller: no interest yet
Nov 16 14:33:32 <smickles>	it's being rolled out to my larger clients first
Nov 16 14:33:41 <thestringpuller>	it cant be that much the 3.36
Nov 16 14:33:49 <thestringpuller>	i was sure it was under 3...
Nov 16 14:34:07 <thestringpuller>	how much profit did I make on october's mini crash?
Nov 16 14:35:50 <smickles>	ah, 2.586072
Nov 16 14:35:57 <smickles>	i copied the wrong box
Nov 16 14:36:10 <thestringpuller>	that's better
Nov 16 14:36:11 <smickles>	it was 3.~ before you received your profits
Nov 16 14:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20956 @ 0.0004968 = 10.4109 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:40:44 <thestringpuller>	i got hosed speculating on s.mpoe
Nov 16 14:41:06 <thestringpuller>	someone sold a lot one day and cut into all my profits lol
Nov 16 14:41:06 <smickles>	you were short at .00038?
Nov 16 14:41:23 <smickles>	Oh, bad luck i guess
Nov 16 14:41:33 <thestringpuller>	.000507~
Nov 16 14:41:36 <thestringpuller>	yea
Nov 16 14:41:53 <thestringpuller>	not as bad as the money usagi lost people
Nov 16 14:41:59 <smickles>	Although I like mpex, and think it is worthwhile, the implied valuation of it boggles my mind
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Nov 16 14:49:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16743 @ 0.0004968 = 8.3179 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 557 @ 0.00049713 = 0.2769 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 14:57:04 <Diablo-D3>	what is the implied valuation?
Nov 16 14:58:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16121 @ 0.00049713 = 8.0142 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:58:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7779 @ 0.00049717 = 3.8675 BTC [+]
Nov 16 14:58:31 <smickles>	;;calc 1000000000 * .00049717
Nov 16 14:58:31 <gribble>	497170
Nov 16 14:58:37 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: ^ in btc
Nov 16 14:59:02 <Diablo-D3>	jesus what
Nov 16 14:59:16 <smickles>	yeah, you see why mircea_popescu is all cocky
Nov 16 14:59:18 <Diablo-D3>	its not worth that
Nov 16 14:59:21 <Diablo-D3>	not even close
Nov 16 14:59:32 <Diablo-D3>	cocky? dude, he should be afraid he isnt murdered in his sleep
Nov 16 14:59:53 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: ;)
Nov 16 15:00:24 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: well, i dunno, i had heard rumors that he was an assasian in the revolution
Nov 16 15:00:39 <Diablo-D3>	dude, everyone was an assassin in the revolution
Nov 16 15:02:52 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: so your imaginary would-be-murderer's plan is to kill him in his sleep and what? steal an encrypted private key?
Nov 16 15:02:56 <kakobrekla>	any response from icbit yet btw?
Nov 16 15:03:05 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i've got one
Nov 16 15:03:12 <kakobrekla>	yes?
Nov 16 15:03:19 <smickles>	Hm, we did not get any more such reports. Sometimes a problem with updating data happens, but it's the first time I hear about "updating is good, but order placement does not work".
Nov 16 15:03:23 <smickles>	Ok, please use the service as usual, however if you notice problems again - let me know, and then we will try to investigate it thoroughly.
Nov 16 15:03:26 <smickles>	Thanks,
Nov 16 15:03:28 <smickles>	Alex
Nov 16 15:03:38 <smickles>	In responce to my support request
Nov 16 15:03:50 <kakobrekla>	aha
Nov 16 15:04:04 <kakobrekla>	well dunno
Nov 16 15:04:13 <kakobrekla>	what to make of it
Nov 16 15:04:27 <pigeons>	got another 200 brc?
Nov 16 15:04:31 <pigeons>	*btc
Nov 16 15:04:46 <jurov>	i read it as "i don't log when someone places an order"
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Nov 16 15:05:05 <smickles>	heh, kakobrekla, well, the cynical me took it as "heh, well, keep trying, we'll keep taking your btc"
Nov 16 15:05:16 <jurov>	and if such is true that is criminal negligence
Nov 16 15:05:29 <kakobrekla>	isnt tycho invloved in this?
Nov 16 15:05:37 <smickles>	yup
Nov 16 15:05:54 <kakobrekla>	it makes little sense to scam like that while he runs deepbit
Nov 16 15:06:09 <kakobrekla>	not worth the effort or something
Nov 16 15:06:40 <jurov>	as the saying goes, don't assume malice in something that can be explained by incompetence
Nov 16 15:06:46 <smickles>	yeah, i'm not actually sure what to make of it all anyway
Nov 16 15:07:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24921 @ 0.00049717 = 12.39 BTC [+]
Nov 16 15:07:13 <kakobrekla>	oh well. bbl
Nov 16 15:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5129 @ 0.00049732 = 2.5508 BTC [+]
Nov 16 15:07:35 <smickles>	but it would've been nice to have my 50 btc woth of BUZ2 quoted at 10.01 right now
Nov 16 15:07:43 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 16 15:07:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.56810, Best ask: 11.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03190, Last trade: 11.60000, 24 hour volume: 69132.05325642, 24 hour low: 10.94020, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.38965
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Nov 16 15:08:26 <jurov>	smickles, really, if he hasn't any evidence that you tried to place an order, that is inexcusable
Nov 16 15:08:58 <smickles>	;;calc ((1/11.56-1/10.01)*-10)*(50/.15)
Nov 16 15:08:58 <gribble>	44.6496986289
Nov 16 15:09:14 <smickles>	potentially would've nearly doubled my btc there :(
Nov 16 15:09:34 <Diablo-D3>	[03:02:52] <smickles> Diablo-D3: so your imaginary would-be-murderer's plan is to kill him in his sleep and what? steal an encrypted private key?
Nov 16 15:09:37 <Diablo-D3>	no, just to do it
Nov 16 15:09:44 <Diablo-D3>	some people just want to watch the world lulz.
Nov 16 15:09:48 <smickles>	(assuming gox closes at 11.56 on dec 15)
Nov 16 15:10:18 <jurov>	what if he has the key only in memory?
Nov 16 15:10:59 <jurov>	you better do some research first :P
Nov 16 15:11:09 <smickles>	jurov: well, i'm in a bit of a pickle, 'cause i can't get my btc off of there without taking such a huge loss on the contracts that I may as well just keep it there
Nov 16 15:12:06 <smickles>	but if they are completly legit, and this was just some aweful error, and btc is anything above 10.6 at settlement, it ends well for me
Nov 16 15:12:18 <smickles>	*10.6 is a rough estimate
Nov 16 15:13:17 <jurov>	so they did not figure out to this moment whether you did place an order or not?
Nov 16 15:13:43 <smickles>	what i posted here was the last communication I've had from them
Nov 16 15:13:56 <smickles>	essentially, "thanks for playing, good luck next time"
Nov 16 15:14:09 <smickles>	</cynic>
Nov 16 15:14:21 *	jurov is speechless
Nov 16 15:15:53 <jurov>	like, wtf? they're using monkeys with excel for database?
Nov 16 15:16:03 <jurov>	like nefario?
Nov 16 15:16:05 <smickles>	excel isn't that bad
Nov 16 15:16:09 <smickles>	it has a search function
Nov 16 15:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36850 @ 0.00049732 = 18.3262 BTC [+]
Nov 16 15:16:37 <jurov>	okay, let it be mokeys with typewriters
Nov 16 15:16:45 <jurov>	*monkeys
Nov 16 15:16:46 <smickles>	tyvm :)
Nov 16 15:17:10 <smickles>	although, personally, i use libreoffice's calc
Nov 16 15:19:08 <jurov>	smickles, i'd suggest to sell that account to someone and forget icbit
Nov 16 15:20:27 <jurov>	if they have problems to find orders... and they didn't even close yet
Nov 16 15:20:39 <smickles>	holy fucking shit!!!!!!!!!!!11
Nov 16 15:20:49 <smickles>	the orderbook is down to 9.5 best bid
Nov 16 15:21:00 <smickles>	with a volume of 3 contracts to be sold out
Nov 16 15:22:20 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135309731595.png
Nov 16 15:22:22 <smickles>	^^
Nov 16 15:22:28 <smickles>	seriously bad
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Nov 16 15:25:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00049732 = 10.2199 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 15:31:39 <thestringpuller>	mr. smickles
Nov 16 15:31:56 <thestringpuller>	 
Nov 16 15:31:56 <thestringpuller>	 
Nov 16 15:31:57 <smickles>	mr. thestringpuller
Nov 16 15:31:57 <thestringpuller>	   
Nov 16 15:32:03 <smickles>	blank lines?
Nov 16 15:32:14 <thestringpuller>	doesnt have the same ring as mr smickles ;)
Nov 16 15:32:28 <smickles>	thanks for the compliment :D
Nov 16 15:32:39 <smickles>	how about:
Nov 16 15:32:44 <smickles>	shemale thestringpuller
Nov 16 15:33:08 <smickles>	I kid, I kid ;)
Nov 16 15:34:14 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 16 15:34:28 <smickles>	thestringpuller: my bad joke aside, did you really mean those 3 blank lines as some kind of significant communication?
Nov 16 15:34:30 <thestringpuller>	210000 blocks is reward drop non?
Nov 16 15:34:38 <smickles>	something like that
Nov 16 15:34:43 <smickles>	;;bc,stats
Nov 16 15:34:43 <thestringpuller>	im typing with thumbs
Nov 16 15:34:57 <thestringpuller>	gribble: you poop
Nov 16 15:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6171 @ 0.00049732 = 3.069 BTC [+]
Nov 16 15:35:03 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Nov 16 15:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00049748 = 6.2434 BTC [+]
Nov 16 15:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9429 @ 0.00049762 = 4.6921 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 15:35:17 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Nov 16 15:35:43 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Nov 16 15:36:02 <thestringpuller>	1.5 weeks till reward drop
Nov 16 15:36:13 <smickles>	208220,
Nov 16 15:36:14 <thestringpuller>	let the price explosion begin
Nov 16 15:36:20 <smickles>	that's the current height
Nov 16 15:36:37 <thestringpuller>	210k is first reward drop right?
Nov 16 15:37:09 <smickles>	;;calc (208220 - 210000) * 10 / 60 / 24
Nov 16 15:37:09 <gribble>	-12.3611111111
Nov 16 15:37:30 <smickles>	;;calc (210000 - 208220) * 10 / 60 / 24 / 7
Nov 16 15:37:30 <gribble>	1.76587301587
Nov 16 15:37:34 <thestringpuller>	it begins
Nov 16 15:37:36 <smickles>	1.7~ weeks
Nov 16 15:37:55 <thestringpuller>	sell puts!!!! buy calls!!!!
Nov 16 15:38:24 <smickles>	if you think it's going over 14 soon, buy the call i'm selling
Nov 16 15:38:41 <thestringpuller>	can i put up btc up for you to write puts on my behalf?
Nov 16 15:39:07 <smickles>	sure
Nov 16 15:39:28 <thestringpuller>	can i piggy back on your underwriting model :)
Nov 16 15:40:39 <smickles>	you want to sell o.btcusd.p120t where the breakeven is a spot of 14 usd?
Nov 16 15:41:33 <smickles>	*sell to open, that is
Nov 16 15:41:55 <smickles>	I have a little over 9 btc free in the account now,
Nov 16 15:42:22 <smickles>	and you could also use options that I have surety for if you like their strikes
Nov 16 15:42:29 <smickles>	but I don't have too many of those
Nov 16 15:42:41 <smickles>	any more than that and we'd need to work a deposit thru
Nov 16 15:43:59 <smickles>	or hey, jurov do you have any spare btc on MPEx?
Nov 16 15:44:13 <jurov>	yes, few
Nov 16 15:44:54 <thestringpuller>	lemme move some cash around after work i dont think wav is gonna hit past 11 tonight
Nov 16 15:44:55 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i'm sure i could borrow a few btc to cover it while we wait for the deposit to go thru
Nov 16 15:45:33 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 16 15:45:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.61492, Best ask: 11.62912, Bid-ask spread: 0.01420, Last trade: 11.65637, 24 hour volume: 69231.58080716, 24 hour low: 10.95151, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.39581
Nov 16 15:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6621 @ 0.00049762 = 3.2947 BTC [+]
Nov 16 15:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23679 @ 0.00049786 = 11.7888 BTC [+]
Nov 16 15:45:53 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 16 15:45:54 <gribble>	11.36
Nov 16 15:46:47 <smickles>	;;calc 1.09 ** (1/12)
Nov 16 15:46:47 <gribble>	1.00720732332
Nov 16 15:47:28 <smickles>	er
Nov 16 15:47:53 <smickles>	;;calc 2.08 ** (1/12)
Nov 16 15:47:53 <gribble>	1.06293150084
Nov 16 15:48:48 <jurov>	i have 6BTC free
Nov 16 15:48:53 <jurov>	at mpex
Nov 16 15:49:53 <smickles>	jurov: thanks for the info. We'll see what the puller wants to do
Nov 16 15:50:18 <smickles>	;;calc (1.09 / 1) ** (1 / (1 /12)) - 1
Nov 16 15:50:18 <gribble>	1.81266478178
Nov 16 15:51:51 <thestringpuller>	12* not 11
Nov 16 15:52:24 <smickles>	ah
Nov 16 15:54:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1871 @ 0.00049786 = 0.9315 BTC [+]
Nov 16 15:54:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40950 @ 0.0004992 = 20.4422 BTC [+]
Nov 16 15:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9401 @ 0.00049937 = 4.6946 BTC [+]
Nov 16 15:58:19 <smickles>	thestringpuller: you say we may do this when you get home from work? what time is that?
Nov 16 15:59:31 <smickles>	after 2100 utc
Nov 16 16:01:14 <thestringpuller>	yea roughly that
Nov 16 16:01:37 <thestringpuller>	i might recover my mpoe losses if it continues to increase
Nov 16 16:01:55 <jurov>	after 2100 utc is already
Nov 16 16:02:21 <smickles>	heh yeah, but add a drive home
Nov 16 16:02:25 <thestringpuller>	oh
Nov 16 16:02:34 <thestringpuller>	2101
Nov 16 16:02:42 <thestringpuller>	2300
Nov 16 16:02:51 <thestringpuller>	is when i will be at a computer
Nov 16 16:04:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40326 @ 0.00049937 = 20.1376 BTC [+]
Nov 16 16:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6324 @ 0.00049948 = 3.1587 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 16:11:16 <thestringpuller>	i dont think anyone will buy my puts in this climate
Nov 16 16:12:53 <smickles>	it's worth a shot tho, imo
Nov 16 16:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38676 @ 0.00049948 = 19.3179 BTC [+]
Nov 16 16:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2459 @ 0.00050084 = 1.2316 BTC [+]
Nov 16 16:13:41 <thestringpuller>	better to buy calls and pray no?
Nov 16 16:17:54 <jurov>	lol,playing satoshidice is easier than to guess this
Nov 16 16:18:27 <jurov>	i think if btcusd goes above 13, someone will make a dump again
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Nov 16 16:18:41 <thestringpuller>	more payoff here
Nov 16 16:18:53 <thestringpuller>	and more data for creating trends
Nov 16 16:19:13 <smickles>	lol, data creating trends
Nov 16 16:19:39 <smickles>	life imitates art, i say !
Nov 16 16:19:51 <thestringpuller>	lololol
Nov 16 16:22:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3891 @ 0.00050084 = 1.9488 BTC [+]
Nov 16 16:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25809 @ 0.00050096 = 12.9293 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 16:32:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4191 @ 0.00050096 = 2.0995 BTC [+]
Nov 16 16:32:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24709 @ 0.00050104 = 12.3802 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 16:40:14 <smickles>	woah, icbit logs arn't persistent?
Nov 16 16:40:29 <smickles>	my settlement numbers just changed today
Nov 16 16:40:57 <smickles>	earlier, the close was marked at 10.11897
Nov 16 16:41:11 <smickles>	now that entry is gone
Nov 16 16:41:40 <smickles>	replaced by an entry dated 1.5 hours later, close market at 10.8088
Nov 16 16:42:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14591 @ 0.00050104 = 7.3107 BTC [+]
Nov 16 16:42:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00050119 = 4.6861 BTC [+]
Nov 16 16:42:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9452 @ 0.00050122 = 4.7375 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 16:48:55 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 16 16:48:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.64980, Best ask: 11.64981, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.64980, 24 hour volume: 69363.84693093, 24 hour low: 11.00000, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.41240
Nov 16 16:50:58 <smickles>	jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1339866#msg1339866
Nov 16 16:51:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29067 @ 0.00050122 = 14.569 BTC [+]
Nov 16 16:51:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7933 @ 0.00050122 = 3.9762 BTC [+]
Nov 16 16:54:08 <nanotube>	>_> looks like i missed an exciting anime discussion ;_;
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Nov 16 17:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36667 @ 0.00050122 = 18.3782 BTC [+]
Nov 16 17:00:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12033 @ 0.00050123 = 6.0313 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 17:10:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8224 @ 0.00050123 = 4.1221 BTC [+]
Nov 16 17:10:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5705 @ 0.00050123 = 2.8595 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 17:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4895 @ 0.00050123 = 2.4535 BTC [+]
Nov 16 17:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33605 @ 0.00050126 = 16.8448 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 17:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51216 @ 0.00050126 = 25.6725 BTC [+]
Nov 16 17:30:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2034 @ 0.00050127 = 1.0196 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 17:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13414 @ 0.00050127 = 6.724 BTC [+]
Nov 16 17:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6886 @ 0.00050128 = 3.4518 BTC [+]
Nov 16 17:40:33 <jurov>	wow, someone got real craving for s,.mpoe?
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Nov 16 17:50:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14714 @ 0.00050128 = 7.3758 BTC [+]
Nov 16 17:50:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24286 @ 0.00050131 = 12.1748 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 17:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6014 @ 0.00050131 = 3.0149 BTC [+]
Nov 16 17:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11238 @ 0.00050134 = 5.6341 BTC [+]
Nov 16 17:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15848 @ 0.00050135 = 7.9454 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 18:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14052 @ 0.00050135 = 7.045 BTC [+]
Nov 16 18:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00050137 = 6.8186 BTC [+]
Nov 16 18:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3048 @ 0.00050141 = 1.5283 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 18:18:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00050141 = 6.3178 BTC [+]
Nov 16 18:18:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32300 @ 0.00050141 = 16.1955 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 18:28:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32152 @ 0.00050141 = 16.1213 BTC [+]
Nov 16 18:28:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6199 @ 0.00050142 = 3.1083 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 18:37:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00050142 = 4.2871 BTC [+]
Nov 16 18:46:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34001 @ 0.00050142 = 17.0488 BTC [+]
Nov 16 18:46:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6999 @ 0.00050142 = 3.5094 BTC [+]
Nov 16 18:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13564 @ 0.00050142 = 6.8013 BTC [+]
Nov 16 19:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	hi all...
Nov 16 19:03:12 *	mircea_popescu dilligently reads up
Nov 16 19:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	<BTCHero> funny thing is, he paid me more than I originally gave him before he quit paying <<< omg clawback
Nov 16 19:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1339857#msg1339857 <<< lmao. apparently after the piece on trilema icbit price suddenly moved a dollar.
Nov 16 19:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Nov 16 19:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ^^
Nov 16 19:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> so they did not figure out to this moment whether you did place an order or not? << this is exactly why the website model does not work too well for exchanges
Nov 16 19:07:33 <mircea_popescu>	"i did so place an order!" "no you did not!!!" is bs. show me your signed receipt ?
Nov 16 19:07:36 <mircea_popescu>	that's the way to do it.
Nov 16 19:07:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15737 @ 0.00050142 = 7.8908 BTC [+]
Nov 16 19:07:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17499 @ 0.00050144 = 8.7747 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 19:10:34 <thestringpuller>	smickles
Nov 16 19:10:40 <thestringpuller>	or should i say mr. smickles
Nov 16 19:10:51 <thestringpuller>	I'm finally at a machine, as you can see I am typing much faster
Nov 16 19:11:22 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: So you lived the revolution of 89. I had a good friend who was conceived during that revolution...
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Nov 16 19:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	i disclaim any liability.\
Nov 16 19:11:56 <thestringpuller>	it would be a very small world now wouldn't it
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Nov 16 19:13:27 <thestringpuller>	smickles: I want to sell puts...
Nov 16 19:13:36 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 16 19:13:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.73780, Best ask: 11.73800, Bid-ask spread: 0.00020, Last trade: 11.73780, 24 hour volume: 58210.62028898, 24 hour low: 11.17500, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.49471
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Nov 16 19:15:09 <thestringpuller>	I'll msg you
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Nov 16 19:15:16 <thestringpuller>	get back to me when you are around
Nov 16 19:16:01 <smickles>	here
Nov 16 19:16:08 <smickles>	thestringpuller: ^
Nov 16 19:16:14 <thestringpuller>	Check pm
Nov 16 19:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00050144 = 11.4078 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 19:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15551 @ 0.00050144 = 7.7979 BTC [+]
Nov 16 19:26:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2449 @ 0.00050147 = 1.2281 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 19:33:00 <BTCHero>	mircea_popescu: we both know no one is getting another cent, especially not one clawed back from me
Nov 16 19:33:45 <BTCHero>	That sort of thing happens in the real world, not bitcoinland
Nov 16 19:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	personally, i'm looking forward to youtube vids with patrick homeless under a bridge in a few years.
Nov 16 19:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00050147 = 8.6253 BTC [+]
Nov 16 19:36:02 <BTCHero>	I hope the same of nefario
Nov 16 19:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	that;s a foregone point, it's how he lives anyway.
Nov 16 19:36:56 <smickles>	thestringpuller: how many, what strike?
Nov 16 19:37:06 <smickles>	oh
Nov 16 19:37:29 <BTCHero>	Well, I know nothing of his living conditions, just that I want them to deteriorate
Nov 16 19:37:49 <mircea_popescu>	i'll settle for "not improve".
Nov 16 19:44:36 <jurov>	thestringpuller, can i be of some disservice, too?
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Nov 16 19:44:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00050147 = 0.351 BTC [+]
Nov 16 19:44:58 <jurov>	if not, i'm gonna sleep
Nov 16 19:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2651 @ 0.00050147 = 1.3294 BTC [+]
Nov 16 19:45:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25542 @ 0.0005015 = 12.8093 BTC [+]
Nov 16 19:45:19 <smickles>	jurov: i think he's afk currently
Nov 16 19:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	ahh gotta love capitalism
Nov 16 19:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	NO SLEEP FOR YOU
Nov 16 19:46:08 <smickles>	jurov: if mircea_popescu at keyboard, we prolly don't need you for what we talked about earlier
Nov 16 19:46:11 <jurov>	ha. i'll start mpex brokers' union
Nov 16 19:46:24 *	smickles pays dues
Nov 16 19:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol where's pinkerton
Nov 16 19:47:05 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125376.msg1340175#msg1340175 someone should point out to garzik that he's making a fool of himself.
Nov 16 19:47:31 <thestringpuller>	I'm using coinbr as my mpoe portfolio for now
Nov 16 19:47:42 <thestringpuller>	I'm waiting for it go up
Nov 16 19:47:50 <thestringpuller>	exponentially
Nov 16 19:47:53 <thestringpuller>	after the end of the world
Nov 16 19:47:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Nov 16 19:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00048619 / 0.00049456 / 0.0005015 (4558726 shares, 2,254.59 BTC), 30day: 0.00041724 / 0.00047429 / 0.00051331 (63096616 shares, 29,926.13 BTC)
Nov 16 19:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	under 5 huh
Nov 16 19:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	WHY!!
Nov 16 19:48:24 <thestringpuller>	no way
Nov 16 19:48:28 <thestringpuller>	last trade was at 5
Nov 16 19:48:50 <thestringpuller>	current ask: .00050150
Nov 16 19:48:56 <jurov>	yes, today's development was very intresting
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Nov 16 19:49:40 <thestringpuller>	not really, I think I understand what is going on
Nov 16 19:49:48 <jurov>	do tell
Nov 16 19:49:59 <thestringpuller>	Someone liquidated early holdings of mpoe that last couple of days as it is gaining value
Nov 16 19:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's true some people got it as cheap as 9k satoshi
Nov 16 19:51:04 <smickles>	*cough* copumpkin *cough*
Nov 16 19:51:06 <jurov>	yea but that was yesterday. today completely different things happened
Nov 16 19:51:17 <thestringpuller>	it's going to continue growing in the long term
Nov 16 19:51:24 <thestringpuller>	it HAS to
Nov 16 19:51:48 <thestringpuller>	It's like people who invested in btc 1 year to today
Nov 16 19:52:01 <smickles>	so... I'm thinking that my icbit account is locked
Nov 16 19:52:57 <jurov>	i told ya.. sell it while you can
Nov 16 19:53:08 *	smickles should've listened to jurov 
Nov 16 19:54:22 <thestringpuller>	everyone should listen to jurov
Nov 16 19:54:25 <thestringpuller>	he is a good broker
Nov 16 19:54:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15858 @ 0.0005015 = 7.9528 BTC [+]
Nov 16 19:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11873 @ 0.0005015 = 5.9543 BTC [+]
Nov 16 19:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26685 @ 0.00050154 = 13.3836 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 19:55:09 <jurov>	oh my
Nov 16 19:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	let's talk more of it
Nov 16 19:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	maybe we can see 6
Nov 16 19:56:20 <jurov>	when i succeed to return all these loans and have more stuff than i began with, then we can talk about me being a broker
Nov 16 19:56:42 <thestringpuller>	We will see 6
Nov 16 19:56:46 <thestringpuller>	maybe by end of the year
Nov 16 19:56:57 <thestringpuller>	historically mpoe makes money so why shouldn't shareholders be confident?
Nov 16 19:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Nov 16 19:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	there's not that many actual ways to make money that are in btc.
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Nov 16 20:01:16 <thestringpuller>	thus doesn't that make MPOE one of the rare institutions that makes btc besides say, miners, or like bitinstant?
Nov 16 20:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25893 @ 0.00050154 = 12.9864 BTC [+]
Nov 16 20:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1081 @ 0.00050158 = 0.5422 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 20:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	kinda.
Nov 16 20:05:01 <mircea_popescu>	or satoshidice
Nov 16 20:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	there's a few businesses and business models that actually make btc revenue.
Nov 16 20:05:28 <mircea_popescu>	not so many of them
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Nov 16 20:08:06 <jurov>	let's make us a new channel: #bitcoin-circlejerk
Nov 16 20:09:30 <jurov>	loool it exists.. and guess who is op
Nov 16 20:10:32 <smickles>	um...
Nov 16 20:10:46 <smickles>	imsaguy
Nov 16 20:11:20 <jurov>	no. rawrmage
Nov 16 20:11:40 <mircea_popescu>	sounds abrought right.
Nov 16 20:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, abrout
Nov 16 20:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12419 @ 0.00050158 = 6.2291 BTC [+]
Nov 16 20:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1624 @ 0.00050159 = 0.8146 BTC [+]
Nov 16 20:14:21 <jurov>	'night.
Nov 16 20:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	later
Nov 16 20:16:43 <thestringpuller>	so it begins
Nov 16 20:16:48 <thestringpuller>	congratulations
Nov 16 20:16:52 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Nov 16 20:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35801 @ 0.00050159 = 17.9574 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 20:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00050159 = 7.4737 BTC [+]
Nov 16 20:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	"Of all the offspring of Time, Error is the most ancient, and is so old and familiar an acquaintance, that Truth, when discovered, comes upon most of us like an intruder, and meets the intruder's welcome."
Nov 16 20:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's good.
Nov 16 20:35:02 <smickles>	very quoteable
Nov 16 20:37:39 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: researching tulip futures contracts ?
Nov 16 20:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	just re-visiting the popular delusions and madness of crowds  book
Nov 16 20:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21214 @ 0.00050159 = 10.6407 BTC [+]
Nov 16 20:41:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27032 @ 0.00050161 = 13.5595 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 20:44:13 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-Mining ph got the tag, did you see ?
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Nov 16 20:47:45 <BTC-Mining>	yup
Nov 16 20:47:59 <BTC-Mining>	Not for your thing tho I believe...
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Nov 16 20:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5768 @ 0.00050161 = 2.8933 BTC [+]
Nov 16 20:50:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00050164 = 13.6697 BTC [+]
Nov 16 20:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10082 @ 0.00050166 = 5.0577 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 20:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	haha rly ?
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Nov 16 21:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00050166 = 5.0166 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 21:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31637 @ 0.00050166 = 15.871 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 21:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	suddenly we comprehend why trade receipts are suck fucking important pieces of info
Nov 16 21:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	suck = such
Nov 16 21:16:08 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: no, because if you give receipts, you can't scam the suckers ;)
Nov 16 21:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	heh. myea.
Nov 16 21:16:56 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: ever consider making it to where you use m of n txns instead of holding btc?
Nov 16 21:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	all the while, inaba is explaining why the nebulous conflartion of gpg, wot and everything else in his head is "marginal"
Nov 16 21:17:07 <smickles>	(for mpex)
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Nov 16 21:17:32 <mircea_popescu>	i;ve considered it, but it seems like a lot of trouble for very dubious benefits.
Nov 16 21:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	the main disadvantage is that a scheme like that makes all transactions traceable.
Nov 16 21:18:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16363 @ 0.00050166 = 8.2087 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:18:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22637 @ 0.00050166 = 11.3561 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:18:57 <smickles>	dubious? wouldn't it lower the desireability to attack the exchange, lower your liabilty (risk) and increase the exchange's trustworthyness?
Nov 16 21:19:07 <smickles>	although, it's still a lot of work
Nov 16 21:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	well, let's see :
Nov 16 21:19:27 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt the exchange's trustworthyness can ever exceed mine. in this sense it would increase it from 100% to 100%, so it's a moot point.
Nov 16 21:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	the problem of tracing is essential tho. currently money going in/out of mpex is not associable with any user
Nov 16 21:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	in the m/n scheme money could be followed through the actual transactions, exposing everyone.
Nov 16 21:20:11 <smickles>	ah
Nov 16 21:20:17 *	smickles didn't think of that
Nov 16 21:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	i can see the argument for using that model anyway, but it would be a catastrophic departure from the current model, so nothing i'd entertain lightly.
Nov 16 21:21:18 <smickles>	in other news, php takes a long ass time to install
Nov 16 21:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	other points are that the complexity of implementation might perversely make the exchange more attack-worthy (as in, more code that could maybe be fucked up ?)
Nov 16 21:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	make everything slower and so forth
Nov 16 21:21:53 <smickles>	... if you are updating linux headers, gcc, and 30 other dependancies too...
Nov 16 21:22:02 <smickles>	... compiling them all from source ...
Nov 16 21:22:17 <mircea_popescu>	well what's the rush.
Nov 16 21:22:42 <smickles>	no rush really
Nov 16 21:27:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 16 21:27:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.68000, Best ask: 11.68979, Bid-ask spread: 0.00979, Last trade: 11.68001, 24 hour volume: 56976.73757283, 24 hour low: 11.17500, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.51821
Nov 16 21:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	settled over 11.5 huh
Nov 16 21:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5718 @ 0.00050166 = 2.8685 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00050166 = 5.1671 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1963 @ 0.00050166 = 0.9848 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8506 @ 0.0005017 = 4.2675 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	have there been any [-]s today at all ?!
Nov 16 21:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 140 @ 0.00339942 = 0.4759 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 460 @ 0.00339944 = 1.5637 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:37:52 <smickles>	lol
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Nov 16 21:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10563 @ 0.0005017 = 5.2995 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 21:45:40 <thestringpuller>	lord msickles!
Nov 16 21:46:02 <smickles>	You may approach, my subject.
Nov 16 21:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://rt.com/news/austerity-protests-eu-solidarity-727/ << 'We have no future!' EU anger unites millions in protest
Nov 16 21:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	welll... if only they figured out bitcoinz
Nov 16 21:47:36 <smickles>	thestringpuller: if your are going to mix upthe order of the letters in my name, try for slicks me
Nov 16 21:47:41 <smickles>	or sick elms
Nov 16 21:47:56 <smickles>	or lick mess
Nov 16 21:47:58 <thestringpuller>	i'm sshe'd in through a web browser
Nov 16 21:47:59 <smickles>	that's a good one
Nov 16 21:48:02 <thestringpuller>	XD
Nov 16 21:48:13 <smickles>	secs milk?
Nov 16 21:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	kim el scs
Nov 16 21:49:26 <smickles>	A Epicures Comp
Nov 16 21:49:50 <smickles>	Campier Coupes
Nov 16 21:49:51 <smickles>	Campier Coupes
Nov 16 21:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19981 @ 0.0005017 = 10.0245 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:50:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4219 @ 0.00050185 = 2.1173 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:50:40 <smickles>	um, copier capes?
Nov 16 21:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 16 21:53:08 <smickles>	oh but thestringpuller wins
Nov 16 21:53:33 <smickles>	regentship trull
Nov 16 21:53:36 <smickles>	repelling thrust
Nov 16 21:53:44 <smickles>	preselling truth
Nov 16 21:53:52 <smickles>	pretelling hurts
Nov 16 21:54:22 <smickles>	pretells, unright
Nov 16 21:55:08 <smickles>	thru lips gentler
Nov 16 21:55:10 <smickles>	^^
Nov 16 21:56:41 *	smickles is now known as regentsthrupill
Nov 16 21:57:46 *	regentsthrupill is now known as smickles
Nov 16 21:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35181 @ 0.00050185 = 17.6556 BTC [+]
Nov 16 21:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2719 @ 0.00050199 = 1.3649 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	presseling truth ?! pretty good!
Nov 16 22:08:34 <thestringpuller>	anagrams
Nov 16 22:08:46 <thestringpuller>	ram nagas
Nov 16 22:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24481 @ 0.00050199 = 12.2892 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:08:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9319 @ 0.00050204 = 4.6785 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:09:16 <thestringpuller>	:|
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Nov 16 22:12:02 <thestringpuller>	smickles we will do put at 12
Nov 16 22:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00050204 = 14.4588 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:15:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3581 @ 0.00050204 = 1.7978 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:15:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00050206 = 11.698 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:15:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4819 @ 0.00050218 = 2.42 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 22:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21466 @ 0.00050218 = 10.7798 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25965 @ 0.00050218 = 13.0391 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7435 @ 0.00050223 = 3.7341 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12615 @ 0.00050223 = 6.3356 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:16:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5485 @ 0.00050235 = 2.7554 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:16:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17515 @ 0.00050235 = 8.7987 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11890 @ 0.00050304 = 5.9811 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18612 @ 0.00050317 = 9.365 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17538 @ 0.00050317 = 8.8246 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23184 @ 0.00050335 = 11.6697 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00050359 = 5.4136 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6549 @ 0.00050366 = 3.2985 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:18 <smickles>	thestringpuller: you mean we'll do a put when mtgox gets to 12?
Nov 16 22:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4951 @ 0.00050366 = 2.4936 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00050369 = 5.9687 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5449 @ 0.00050369 = 2.7446 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11422 @ 0.00050369 = 5.7531 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11279 @ 0.00050369 = 5.6811 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00050373 = 8.4627 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:17:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5821 @ 0.00050375 = 2.9323 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:18:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28550 @ 0.00050375 = 14.3821 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:18:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13105 @ 0.00050375 = 6.6016 BTC [+]
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Nov 16 22:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	that may take a while, seems it's retracing
Nov 16 22:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9778 @ 0.00050012 = 4.8902 BTC [-]
Nov 16 22:31:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12607 @ 0.00049986 = 6.3017 BTC [-]
Nov 16 22:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16321 @ 0.00049967 = 8.1551 BTC [-]
Nov 16 22:32:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.0004982 = 3.9856 BTC [-]
Nov 16 22:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20741 @ 0.0004982 = 10.3332 BTC [-]
Nov 16 22:33:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4559 @ 0.00049819 = 2.2712 BTC [-]
Nov 16 22:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00049854 = 9.6966 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9792 @ 0.00049961 = 4.8922 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:34:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00049963 = 4.6466 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:34:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4358 @ 0.0004997 = 2.1777 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:34:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37942 @ 0.0004997 = 18.9596 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:34:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2608 @ 0.00049973 = 1.3033 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27242 @ 0.00049973 = 13.6136 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:35:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00049978 = 3.0237 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16930 @ 0.00049994 = 8.464 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13078 @ 0.00049979 = 6.5363 BTC [-]
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Nov 16 22:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14970 @ 0.00049994 = 7.4841 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:50:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28230 @ 0.00050012 = 14.1184 BTC [+]
Nov 16 22:57:00 <smickles>	"( ) Enable keyboard shortcuts?" << hell yeah enable keyboard shortcuts! Why isn't that checked by default?
Nov 16 23:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	nighty all!
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Nov 17 00:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8419 @ 0.00050012 = 4.2105 BTC [+]
Nov 17 00:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35885 @ 0.00050013 = 17.9472 BTC [+]
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Nov 17 00:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00050013 = 7.652 BTC [+]
Nov 17 00:39:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33045 @ 0.00050006 = 16.5245 BTC [-]
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Nov 17 01:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2105 @ 0.00049996 = 1.0524 BTC [-]
Nov 17 01:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7633 @ 0.00050013 = 3.8175 BTC [+]
Nov 17 01:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11262 @ 0.00050032 = 5.6346 BTC [+]
Nov 17 01:50:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9588 @ 0.00050032 = 4.7971 BTC [+]
Nov 17 01:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4594 @ 0.00050035 = 2.2986 BTC [+]
Nov 17 01:58:53 <smickles>	;;later tell mircea_popescu you suggested it <a href="https://twitter.com/share" class="twitter-share-button" data-related="smickles">Tweet</a>
Nov 17 01:58:53 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Nov 17 01:59:18 <smickles>	lol
Nov 17 01:59:20 <smickles>	woops
Nov 17 01:59:49 <smickles>	;;later tell mircea_popescu you actually suggested this: http://blog.smickles.com
Nov 17 01:59:49 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Nov 17 03:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14943 @ 0.00050035 = 7.4767 BTC [+]
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Nov 17 04:04:47 <kakobrekla>	that link doesnt work smickles
Nov 17 04:07:54 <smickles>	kakobrekla: I know, i'm trying to setup ssl for the login page
Nov 17 04:07:57 <smickles>	thx :)
Nov 17 04:17:01 <Diablo-D3>	hey guys
Nov 17 04:17:09 <Diablo-D3>	whats the default namecoin data and rpc ports?
Nov 17 04:17:13 <Diablo-D3>	I thought it was 9333 and 9332
Nov 17 04:22:02 <Diablo-D3>	huh apparently its 8334 and 8336
Nov 17 04:33:59 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Nov 17 04:34:02 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 208300 | Current Difficulty: 3368767.1405329 | Next Difficulty At Block: 209663 | Next Difficulty In: 1363 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3291831.75969365 | Estimated Percent Change: -2.28378447158
Nov 17 04:34:07 <kakobrekla>	no shit.
Nov 17 04:34:32 <Diablo-D3>	woah, down? lol
Nov 17 04:36:25 <Chaaaang-Noi>	people are selling off already i guess :)
Nov 17 04:36:45 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Nov 17 04:37:35 <Chaaaang-Noi>	ltc has taken a massive dive, 505 down in a week
Nov 17 04:37:38 <Chaaaang-Noi>	50%
Nov 17 04:37:45 <Chaaaang-Noi>	i expect it to go up once miners move over
Nov 17 04:37:57 <Diablo-D3>	an ltc be gpu mined?
Nov 17 04:38:49 <Chaaaang-Noi>	ltc is asic resistant, and it is gpu mined
Nov 17 04:38:57 <Chaaaang-Noi>	almost no cpu mining anymore
Nov 17 04:39:24 <Diablo-D3>	I should see how hard it'd be to add ltc mining to DM
Nov 17 04:39:40 <Diablo-D3>	probably can do it a shitload faster than whatevers out there now
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Nov 17 04:40:17 <Chaaaang-Noi>	well, i know that the 7970s need something like DM
Nov 17 04:40:27 <Chaaaang-Noi>	cgminer can only do 6XXX and lower
Nov 17 04:40:40 <Chaaaang-Noi>	so it pretty much sucks for people hwo have 7970s like me
Nov 17 04:41:00 <Chaaaang-Noi>	let me know if you do it, id be happy to test it out for you
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Nov 17 04:41:37 <Diablo-D3>	erm?
Nov 17 04:41:42 <Diablo-D3>	cgminer can do 7970s fine
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Nov 17 04:41:51 <Diablo-D3>	cgminer is basically a port of DM to C
Nov 17 04:41:56 <Diablo-D3>	and it even offers the DM kernel
Nov 17 04:42:40 <Chaaaang-Noi>	not for ltc
Nov 17 04:42:47 <Chaaaang-Noi>	cgmibner fials on 7970 for ltc
Nov 17 04:42:52 <Diablo-D3>	huh weird.
Nov 17 04:43:00 <Diablo-D3>	I should look at cgminer's code for ltc
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Nov 17 04:43:46 <Diablo-D3>	for ltc miners, the json api is the same, right?
Nov 17 04:43:59 <Chaang-Noi>	i have no idea
Nov 17 04:44:07 <Diablo-D3>	I hope so
Nov 17 04:44:14 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Nov 17 04:44:22 <Chaang-Noi>	they have to use scrypt or something
Nov 17 04:44:33 <Diablo-D3>	I know that
Nov 17 04:44:38 <Diablo-D3>	but I want to change as little as possible
Nov 17 04:46:44 <Chaang-Noi>	:)  try #litecoin
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Nov 17 04:50:21 <smickles>	finally
Nov 17 04:50:29 <smickles>	ssl is a pain
Nov 17 04:50:45 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: Ill think about it later
Nov 17 04:51:34 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Nov 17 04:51:41 <smickles>	that was about 3 hours of googling and configing based on that google, turns out they were wrong... eventually end up RTFM
Nov 17 04:51:42 <Chaang-Noi>	if you do it ill use it
Nov 17 04:52:01 <Diablo-D3>	btw, what was the name of that alternate mining protocol?
Nov 17 04:52:41 <Diablo-D3>	stratum?
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Nov 17 04:57:19 <smickles>	welp, /g 16
Nov 17 04:57:25 <smickles>	er
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Nov 17 05:04:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19663 @ 0.00050035 = 9.8384 BTC [+]
Nov 17 05:04:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10237 @ 0.00050064 = 5.1251 BTC [+]
Nov 17 05:08:23 <Chaaaang-Noi>	i dont know diablo-d3
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Nov 17 05:11:28 <Chaang-Noi>	silly Chaaang_Noi...
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Nov 17 05:16:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00050013 = 1.0003 BTC [-]
Nov 17 05:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00050012 = 11.1027 BTC [-]
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Nov 17 05:42:22 <Chaang-Noi>	when will the reward drop be again?
Nov 17 05:42:28 <Chaang-Noi>	27th or 28th?
Nov 17 05:42:35 <Diablo-D3>	somewhere around there
Nov 17 05:43:01 <Diablo-D3>	isnt it the next diff change?
Nov 17 05:43:13 <Diablo-D3>	because thats in a week and 2 days
Nov 17 05:43:25 <Chaang-Noi>	no
Nov 17 05:43:29 <Chaang-Noi>	its after that
Nov 17 05:43:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i was looking for an exact time :)
Nov 17 05:43:44 <Diablo-D3>	the bot has a trigger for it
Nov 17 05:43:48 <Diablo-D3>	but I forget what it is
Nov 17 05:43:55 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah me too :(
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Nov 17 05:56:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://blog.smickles.com haha smickles has a blog ?
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Nov 17 06:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	soo, what's new ?
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Nov 17 06:42:08 <Chaang-Noi>	hostess shut down like i said they would
Nov 17 06:42:14 <mircea_popescu>	kickass.
Nov 17 06:42:18 <mircea_popescu>	in yo face wonderbread.
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Nov 17 06:42:24 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Nov 17 06:43:15 <Chaang-Noi>	also petraus bs.. looks like he new it was a terrorst attack and he got kicked out cuz he was fail, not cuz sleeping around
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Nov 17 06:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	o ? link ?
Nov 17 06:53:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i saw it on my phone
Nov 17 06:53:48 <Chaang-Noi>	he is testifiying before congress
Nov 17 06:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Nov 17 06:54:20 <Chaang-Noi>	someone maybe the white house... edited some of the report, cuz election
Nov 17 06:56:13 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20362941
Nov 17 06:56:18 <Chaang-Noi>	related
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Nov 17 07:11:04 <kakobrekla>	jurov, would it be possible to change the timeframe of the chart here http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE
Nov 17 07:11:11 <kakobrekla>	on teh fly perhaps
Nov 17 07:11:28 <jurov>	you mean, longer time?
Nov 17 07:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	a slider bar!
Nov 17 07:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, i'm curious if inaba has an aneurism
Nov 17 07:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1340625#msg1340625
Nov 17 07:12:17 <jurov>	or a depth?
Nov 17 07:12:31 <kakobrekla>	no current depth is ok i guess
Nov 17 07:12:39 <kakobrekla>	just the trades line is quite 'short'
Nov 17 07:12:43 <kakobrekla>	no?
Nov 17 07:13:02 <kakobrekla>	like for example id like to see last 30d or so
Nov 17 07:13:24 <jurov>	in fact yes, i planned to do it someday
Nov 17 07:14:24 <mircea_popescu>	maybe just a 1 day 7 day 30 day 365 day set of buttons
Nov 17 07:15:06 <jurov>	it's just that currently i have to do other jobs :/
Nov 17 07:15:15 <jurov>	if anyone cared to toss some btc in for charts improvement, it woould be sooner ;)
Nov 17 07:15:40 <mircea_popescu>	course now looking at it, i don't understand the depth
Nov 17 07:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	why does it look like a - and then | ?
Nov 17 07:16:01 <mircea_popescu>	actual depth seems to be more like \
Nov 17 07:16:39 *	kakobrekla supports pwning of inaba
Nov 17 07:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	no nm, you're right, there are cliffs around 48 and 52
Nov 17 07:17:10 <kakobrekla>	brb lunch
Nov 17 07:17:12 <jurov>	mircea, not sure if you're trolling.. which depth is wrong? bid? ask?
Nov 17 07:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	nm nm i was confused.
Nov 17 07:17:31 <jurov>	okay :P
Nov 17 07:18:40 <jurov>	hm.. i'll put donation addy there and we'll see
Nov 17 07:19:12 <jurov>	1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb
Nov 17 07:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	omg why is nobody writing for my contest!
Nov 17 07:19:33 <mircea_popescu>	is bitcoin bereft of literary talent! are you all stifs!
Nov 17 07:19:52 <jurov>	and the cherry truck is actually used anywhere?
Nov 17 07:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	in the cherry thread so far.
Nov 17 07:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	it did deliver it's weight in lulz tho, did you see that croppo guy go ?
Nov 17 07:22:26 <jurov>	seems i kinda missed that thread
Nov 17 07:33:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;google scammer tag
Nov 17 07:33:05 <gribble>	Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.0>; SR Scammer Tag Appeals | SteamRep Forums: <http://forums.steamrep.com/forums/srscamappeal/>; Tag: scam - Better Business Bureau Consumer Alert: <http://tucsoncitizen.com/bbbconsumeralert/tag/scam/>
Nov 17 07:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	first one
Nov 17 07:34:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00050042 = 5.955 BTC [+]
Nov 17 07:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26869 @ 0.00050044 = 13.4463 BTC [+]
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Nov 17 08:05:43 <jurov>	it took me till now to actually read until the picture :/
Nov 17 08:06:01 <jurov>	and i should be doing something completely different
Nov 17 08:08:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol sorry.
Nov 17 08:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;google "and now for something completely different"
Nov 17 08:08:36 <gribble>	And Now for Something Completely Different - Wikipedia, the free ...: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Now_for_Something_Completely_Different>; And Now for Something Completely Different (1971) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066765/>; And now for something completely different - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2P86C-1x3o>
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Nov 17 08:18:57 <Chaang-Noi>	" just like MPEx demolished GLBSE. "
Nov 17 08:19:07 <Chaang-Noi>	im pretty sure nefario did that all by himself...
Nov 17 08:20:37 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, inaba says the same...
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Nov 17 09:19:57 <kakobrekla>	mpex demolished glbse by not failing :)
Nov 17 09:20:00 <kakobrekla>	its good.
Nov 17 09:21:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29981 @ 0.00050044 = 15.0037 BTC [+]
Nov 17 09:21:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2368 @ 0.00050049 = 1.1852 BTC [+]
Nov 17 10:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/wikocrisy/ << in which i'm pissed @wikipedia
Nov 17 10:23:42 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 17 10:24:01 <kakobrekla>	stereotypes are hard to beat
Nov 17 10:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	what's hard to beat is intellectual indolence
Nov 17 10:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	inaba sitting around explaining how he doesn't have to learn to use the wot
Nov 17 10:27:06 <mircea_popescu>	that sorta thing
Nov 17 10:30:16 <jurov>	little revenge: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Wikipedia ;)
Nov 17 10:30:50 <kakobrekla>	well inaba is a puppet with a huge army of stupid followers
Nov 17 10:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla yeah, bfl pays forum ppl to put them in the signature. i pay forum ppl to put "fuck you sec" in their signature.
Nov 17 10:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	apparently the difference is lost on most of the population.
Nov 17 10:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol go get em jurov :D
Nov 17 10:34:56 <jurov>	bucharest is LA minus fresh air? that means in bucharest there's fresher air or vice versa?
Nov 17 10:35:22 <jurov>	(was never in either)
Nov 17 10:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	la is famous for being a polluted hellhole
Nov 17 10:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	stylistically this implies that compared to bucharest, la has fresh air going for it.
Nov 17 10:38:10 <jurov>	then i'd say  it's LA plus fresh air... but let's see what english natives say
Nov 17 10:38:31 <jurov>	if there are any around
Nov 17 10:39:11 <jurov>	and yes, i heard rumors about bay area smog, too
Nov 17 10:39:35 <mircea_popescu>	if it's la plus fresh air then that'd mean bucharest has fresh air. quite the contrary
Nov 17 10:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone is into judicialspotting : www.judicialhellholes.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F12%2FJudicial-Hellholes-2011.pdf
Nov 17 10:41:55 <jurov>	bah, that's just 'merica
Nov 17 10:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	well yea.
Nov 17 10:42:08 <jurov>	i looked forward to seeing slovakia there
Nov 17 10:45:17 <jurov>	we don't even have Attorney General for like, more than a year.. cause president just refused to appoint the elected one, for basically "no reason".
Nov 17 10:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00050049 = 16.6163 BTC [+]
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Nov 17 10:49:41 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Nov 17 11:10:47 <jurov>	so? just a mess, generally
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Nov 17 11:33:50 <jurov>	"LOL... you are laughable man.  Good luck with your business ventures, it's clear you have exactly zero connection with business reality!"
Nov 17 11:34:13 <jurov>	inaba recovered from aneurysm.. with some lasting damage, tho
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Nov 17 11:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
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Nov 17 12:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1341151#msg1341151
Nov 17 12:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	did you get a response >?
Nov 17 12:03:02 <mircea_popescu>	and also... wait for it...
Nov 17 12:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	 http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/16/taliban_accidentally_ccs_everybody_on_its_mailing_list
Nov 17 12:07:20 <EskimoBob>	wzz new?
Nov 17 12:09:55 <EskimoBob>	lol at the taliban news
Nov 17 12:10:09 <EskimoBob>	where can I get the ailing list?
Nov 17 12:10:15 <EskimoBob>	mailing*
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Nov 17 12:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	twitter lol
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Nov 17 12:22:45 <kuzetsa>	twitter? eek. isn’
Nov 17 12:22:56 <kuzetsa>	isnt' that the one terrorists use?
Nov 17 12:23:02 <EskimoBob>	twitter? that shit sucks
Nov 17 12:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	twitter is sorta like lj for the add crowd
Nov 17 12:24:18 <EskimoBob>	I want the full list, not some shitty 140 char. messages
Nov 17 12:24:31 <EskimoBob>	lj?
Nov 17 12:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	livejournal
Nov 17 12:26:11 <kuzetsa>	"add crowd" ?
Nov 17 12:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;google ADD
Nov 17 12:26:16 <gribble>	Attention Deficit Disorder Association: <http://www.add.org/>; ADD and ADHD Center: Symptoms, Types, Causes, Tests, and ...: <http://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/default.htm>; Attention deficit disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_deficit_disorder>
Nov 17 12:26:19 <kuzetsa>	oh
Nov 17 12:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Nov 17 12:26:37 <kuzetsa>	yeah, my boyfriend has that... he uses tumblr though not twitter lol
Nov 17 12:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	haha tumblr is like wp for the add crowd
Nov 17 12:27:04 *	kuzetsa shrugs
Nov 17 12:27:46 <kuzetsa>	interesting... 3.7-rc6 today, but still no 3.6.7
Nov 17 12:28:05 <kuzetsa>	I guess linus torvolds REALLY wants to put everything on hold until 3.7.x is out
Nov 17 12:28:32 <thestringpuller>	torvalds works on like one thing
Nov 17 12:28:55 <kuzetsa>	thestringpuller: yeah. criticizing people's work and blocking new features.
Nov 17 12:29:00 <thestringpuller>	does he even care about merge requests anymore?
Nov 17 12:29:02 <kuzetsa>	it's like torvold's main thing.
Nov 17 12:29:35 *	kuzetsa shrugs
Nov 17 12:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	kuzetsa in truth tho, after a product matures, guarding against feature creep is the main responsibility of the maintainer.
Nov 17 12:30:56 <thestringpuller>	tell me about da revolution!
Nov 17 12:31:08 <thestringpuller>	will it be televised?
Nov 17 12:31:28 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Nov 17 12:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00049638 / 0.00050017 / 0.00050375 (2812055 shares, 1,406.53 BTC), 30day: 0.0004278 / 0.00047652 / 0.00051331 (62500950 shares, 29,783.02 BTC)
Nov 17 12:33:13 <kuzetsa>	mircea_popescu: fair enough.
Nov 17 12:33:21 <mircea_popescu>	apparently the egyptians are about to invade israel
Nov 17 12:33:23 <mircea_popescu>	like... tonight
Nov 17 12:33:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44866 @ 0.00050024 = 22.4438 BTC [-]
Nov 17 12:33:41 <thestringpuller>	yea world war 3
Nov 17 12:33:58 <thestringpuller>	middle east is so annoying now
Nov 17 12:34:14 <thestringpuller>	it is why we cant have nice things
Nov 17 12:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	hah
Nov 17 12:35:03 <thestringpuller>	we should invent a weed smoke bomb
Nov 17 12:35:08 <thestringpuller>	and get dem all supah high
Nov 17 12:36:30 <thestringpuller>	ive never heard a story about someone getting high, going home and beating their wife
Nov 17 12:37:15 <kakobrekla>	imma gonna do it just to prove you wrong.
Nov 17 12:37:44 <thestringpuller>	you have to get supah high first
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Nov 17 12:37:54 <thestringpuller>	like think cheech and chong is funny high
Nov 17 12:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla didn't know you were married
Nov 17 12:37:59 <thestringpuller>	then try and beat your wife
Nov 17 12:38:07 <thestringpuller>	you wont be able to do it
Nov 17 12:38:09 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu, that can be done instantly while i smoke.
Nov 17 12:38:17 <_Fireball>	hey mircea_popescu
Nov 17 12:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	maybe beat someone else's wife.
Nov 17 12:38:25 <mircea_popescu>	yes ?
Nov 17 12:38:26 <_Fireball>	I'm here, if you have questions
Nov 17 12:38:28 <thestringpuller>	she'll make you food and youll love her
Nov 17 12:38:32 <kakobrekla>	well that can work too.
Nov 17 12:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	a, welcome to the pit. so what exactly is the story with icbit ?
Nov 17 12:39:12 <_Fireball>	I read your report, and I think you judged your conclusions of the fact that the futures contract position is closed each day after clearing
Nov 17 12:39:28 <_Fireball>	it's not closed, and it was not forcefully closed yesterday too, even considering the massive sell off
Nov 17 12:39:29 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Nov 17 12:39:29 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 42 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <smickles> er
Nov 17 12:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	the point of most concern is smickles' report that he could not place bids
Nov 17 12:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	during the half minute or so towards the end.
Nov 17 12:39:51 <_Fireball>	clearing is just to transfer variation margin
Nov 17 12:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	this partial closing of the book is very problematic.
Nov 17 12:40:14 <_Fireball>	mircea_popescu, - I warned that to prevent manipulation we are delaying clearing for half an hour and will perform some maintenance during that time
Nov 17 12:40:25 <mircea_popescu>	when, this ?
Nov 17 12:40:30 <_Fireball>	just a moment
Nov 17 12:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	no rush.
Nov 17 12:41:37 <_Fireball>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1339650#msg1339650 and https://twitter.com/icbit_se
Nov 17 12:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	November 16, 2012, 07:59:31 PM
Nov 17 12:42:50 <_Fireball>	yep
Nov 17 12:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	the event we are discussing is
Nov 17 12:42:52 <mircea_popescu>	15NOV12 19:59 At 30 seconds until close, I saw the expected sell order. It was larger than I had expected, leaving about 450 contracts on the book at 10.025. Notwithstanding the fact that his order would not overcome this, I dutifully placed the order Mircea had asked me too.
Nov 17 12:43:00 <mircea_popescu>	about a day or so before.
Nov 17 12:43:40 <_Fireball>	let me open up your blog post..
Nov 17 12:44:17 <_Fireball>	ah, so you're talking about the day before. There were no scheduled maintenance back then, order entry was working as expected
Nov 17 12:44:29 <kakobrekla>	hrm, also, afaik bucket shop != dealing desk
Nov 17 12:44:56 <_Fireball>	I'm referring to the specific line in your blog post:
Nov 17 12:44:58 <_Fireball>	"At 22:00 20:00 UTC the site arbitrarily enforces an even lower price, wipes his margin, closes his contract and that’s that, random user was scammed out of his few BTC."
Nov 17 12:45:10 <_Fireball>	Contract is NOT closed at 20:00 UTC.
Nov 17 12:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	um. so suppose someone buys 1000 contracts at 10, deposits enough margin for just this
Nov 17 12:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	price at 20:00 is 5
Nov 17 12:45:51 <mircea_popescu>	is the position not closed ?
Nov 17 12:46:47 <_Fireball>	nope, variation margin is transferred, that guy experience loss, but he still has 1000 contracts at 5
Nov 17 12:47:02 <_Fireball>	this goes on until there is enough money in the account
Nov 17 12:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	but in the example i gave there would not be enough money in the account.
Nov 17 12:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	let's work in more detail. usd/btc is 10.0. someone deposits 100 btc. with margin, buys 500 contracts at a price of 10
Nov 17 12:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	next settlement, price is 5.
Nov 17 12:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	the 100 btc deposited are not enough, are the contracts closed or no ?
Nov 17 12:48:23 <_Fireball>	it can't be 5 because there is a trading range for every session, which is a measure to prevent such situation entirely
Nov 17 12:48:38 <_Fireball>	so profit/loss within a trading session is limited by the trading range
Nov 17 12:48:44 <mircea_popescu>	that has little impact. yes, you only change it 10% a day.
Nov 17 12:48:55 <_Fireball>	otherwise manipulators could bring it down to 1 and crash the market
Nov 17 12:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	but alright, even more complex example
Nov 17 12:49:09 <_Fireball>	was your position closed?
Nov 17 12:49:14 <mircea_popescu>	monday someone deposits 100 btc, price is 10. they buy 5000 contracts (cause of 5x margin)
Nov 17 12:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	tuesday price is 9
Nov 17 12:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	wed it's 8.1, and so it goes until it is 5 on sunday.
Nov 17 12:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	whether my position was closed or not is besides the point. the part of the article you're discussing is refering the mechanics of the thing, not my own position.
Nov 17 12:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	but no, it was not closed.
Nov 17 12:50:56 <_Fireball>	this position *could be* forcefully sold if and only if the balance (money in the account + profit/loss in the current trading session) is less than or equal to 75% of the total maintenance margin requirement for the open positions
Nov 17 12:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Nov 17 12:51:17 <_Fireball>	so if the market is going down, the position would be gradually liquidated well before it reachs 5 on sunday
Nov 17 12:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	but again, the point of most concern is that on the 15th the book was closed to some participants, but not others.
Nov 17 12:51:38 <_Fireball>	we are quite careful not to cause too much of a flash-crash effect, so this is a managed process
Nov 17 12:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	this would naturally lead to an inference against your site.
Nov 17 12:52:01 <_Fireball>	why placing orders in the last minute btw?
Nov 17 12:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	exactly to expose the scam ? why else ?
Nov 17 12:52:18 <_Fireball>	we don't *guarantee* that your ISP maintains perfect connection to the website
Nov 17 12:52:22 <mircea_popescu>	it's not the isp.
Nov 17 12:52:35 <_Fireball>	pardon, what's the point to place orders before clearing?
Nov 17 12:52:41 <_Fireball>	a clearing doesn't do any magic really
Nov 17 12:52:52 <_Fireball>	it just transfers variation margin, nothing is lost during that
Nov 17 12:53:10 <_Fireball>	a typical limit order can be put in at any time
Nov 17 12:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	yes, a typical limit order can be put in any time.
Nov 17 12:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	but if one suspects that the sellout happening just before closing is not legitimate
Nov 17 12:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	one wants to verify this.
Nov 17 12:54:09 <_Fireball>	if you imagine this is ICBIT's own actions, they could be done at any other time of a day
Nov 17 12:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	not really. the allegation is that you close the book for customers at 30 seconds before 20:00
Nov 17 12:54:43 <_Fireball>	but it doesn't give me any profit!
Nov 17 12:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	then do some fake trading, then reopen the book 10 seconds after 20:00
Nov 17 12:54:53 <_Fireball>	margin call can't happen during clearing
Nov 17 12:54:56 <_Fireball>	because trading is stopped
Nov 17 12:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	it possibly gives you a profit through the mechanism delineated at the end of the article,
Nov 17 12:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	but whether it does or it doesn't isn't really relevant
Nov 17 12:56:48 <_Fireball>	uhm
Nov 17 12:57:27 <_Fireball>	honestly, by reading your blog post, I  see that you have little idea how futures exchanges work
Nov 17 12:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	that's fine.
Nov 17 12:57:43 <_Fireball>	and I'm explaining it to you ;-)
Nov 17 12:58:24 <_Fireball>	so, would you be a man and write an apology?
Nov 17 12:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	you're joking, right ?
Nov 17 13:00:03 <_Fireball>	not at all
Nov 17 13:00:17 <_Fireball>	I can explain once again
Nov 17 13:00:25 <_Fireball>	why "facts" you mentioned make no sense
Nov 17 13:00:35 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1340625#msg1340625 << why doesn't he take that OP as a suggestion and move on? does he really think your pr lady is making the world a worse place?
Nov 17 13:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i have no idea.
Nov 17 13:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	i think he just got blindsided. he thought bfl is the greatest business in btc
Nov 17 13:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	an easy mistake to make, everyone thinks his kids are the smartest.
Nov 17 13:02:11 <_Fireball>	"Their volume is listed as 320k USD, which makes absolutely zero sense" - all trades are logged, however obviously it's not daily volume, but total volume of a contract.
Nov 17 13:02:32 <_Fireball>	you can check it if you make a trade, the total volume would be updated.
Nov 17 13:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	_Fireball it makes zero sense because a. it's not clear if you mean per day, week month, year
Nov 17 13:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	and because it doesn't seem to be updated.
Nov 17 13:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	and for other reasons.
Nov 17 13:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	"all trades are logged" you say. where ?
Nov 17 13:03:25 <_Fireball>	total since the introduction of this contract
Nov 17 13:03:54 <_Fireball>	they are time limited, you know. It expires in a month
Nov 17 13:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	yes well, other than glbse nobody does this.
Nov 17 13:04:16 <mircea_popescu>	volume is reported by a fixed time interval. like a month, or a day.
Nov 17 13:04:34 <_Fireball>	have a look at the chart then
Nov 17 13:04:40 <mircea_popescu>	i understand _why_ you do it this way, if you said 40 BTC/day it would look poor but honest, but anyway.
Nov 17 13:04:43 <_Fireball>	it's slightly broken though
Nov 17 13:04:51 <_Fireball>	but it shows correct volume if you look at it day per day
Nov 17 13:05:03 <mircea_popescu>	but we're not discussing that.
Nov 17 13:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't say the chart makes zero sense.
Nov 17 13:05:14 <_Fireball>	yes, anyway, let's discuss one thing
Nov 17 13:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	(tho i could have said it makes zero sense to put charts behind a pw)
Nov 17 13:05:23 <_Fireball>	what's the point of your, let me say, not very good article?
Nov 17 13:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	the article stands on its own, as far as i can tell.
Nov 17 13:05:43 <_Fireball>	it's quite clear that you can't back any accusation
Nov 17 13:05:48 <_Fireball>	and it's full of false facts
Nov 17 13:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Nov 17 13:05:57 <_Fireball>	yes, indeed sigh
Nov 17 13:06:03 <_Fireball>	if I would be scammer, I would not come here
Nov 17 13:06:04 <_Fireball>	to you
Nov 17 13:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	alright, carry on.
Nov 17 13:06:07 <_Fireball>	with good intentions
Nov 17 13:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	no, actually, in general scammers do come to me with a head full of steam in the first pass
Nov 17 13:06:40 <_Fireball>	my head is not full of steam at all
Nov 17 13:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	because they fail to realise that i employ people, that i've had the affidavit vetter by trade engine experts before posting and on and on
Nov 17 13:06:44 <mircea_popescu>	people imagine i'm like them.
Nov 17 13:07:25 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1341151#msg1341151 <<< yeah, another "that couldn't possibly have happened"
Nov 17 13:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	smickles yet again the problem with the website model. customer says X. site says Y. how do we verify this ?
Nov 17 13:08:19 <_Fireball>	mircea_popescu, is this blackmailing?
Nov 17 13:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	weren't you complaining earlier you didn't get any mail ?
Nov 17 13:08:50 <mircea_popescu>	it has to be one or the other you know.
Nov 17 13:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	there's no such thing as absentee blackmail.
Nov 17 13:09:50 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Nov 17 13:09:53 <thestringpuller>	quoted
Nov 17 13:09:57 <thestringpuller>	absentee blackmail
Nov 17 13:09:58 <thestringpuller>	omg
Nov 17 13:15:47 <_Fireball>	oh well
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Nov 17 13:17:37 <_Fireball>	so, let me confirm
Nov 17 13:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10154 @ 0.00050036 = 5.0807 BTC [+]
Nov 17 13:17:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00050012 = 9.6523 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00049982 = 16.2941 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34750 @ 0.00049966 = 17.3632 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29950 @ 0.0004995 = 14.96 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11591 @ 0.00049855 = 5.7787 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12109 @ 0.00049777 = 6.0275 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:49 <_Fireball>	mircea_popescu, you are not going to issue an apology, right?
Nov 17 13:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00049585 = 3.7437 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3419 @ 0.00048619 = 1.6623 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23333 @ 0.00048608 = 11.3417 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66600 @ 0.00048597 = 32.3656 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35150 @ 0.00048571 = 17.0727 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00048554 = 19.3245 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:55 <_Fireball>	this is the last time I'm asking
Nov 17 13:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00048536 = 22.1324 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00048527 = 10.0208 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00048516 = 4.7546 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34624 @ 0.00048515 = 16.7978 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:17:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00048515 = 8.199 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:18:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41688 @ 0.00048509 = 20.2224 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:18:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4432 @ 0.00048504 = 2.1497 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	rather than posturing you'd be much better served by addressing the actual points.
Nov 17 13:18:22 <mircea_popescu>	chief among which, where are your trades logged ?
Nov 17 13:18:46 <_Fireball>	in an internal database, haha
Nov 17 13:19:03 <_Fireball>	anyway, what's the list of the actual points?
Nov 17 13:19:20 <_Fireball>	besides trades log (I can export and publish it, if needed)
Nov 17 13:19:21 <smickles>	hi _Fireball thanks for joining us here :) do you think you could work with kakobrekla to get streaming icbit futures trades in the chan?
Nov 17 13:19:32 <_Fireball>	smickles - yep, with pleasure
Nov 17 13:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	that you close the book half a minute before daily settlement, that you then proceed to execute fake trades on your own account, that you then reopen the book after daily settlement cutoff
Nov 17 13:19:55 <_Fireball>	smickles, I'd be more glad if mircea_popescu would stop assuming ICBIT is "scammy piece of shit" ;-)
Nov 17 13:20:30 <_Fireball>	mircea_popescu, ok, let's make it clear: it's NOT settlement!
Nov 17 13:20:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00339944 = 16.9972 BTC [+]
Nov 17 13:20:39 <_Fireball>	contracts are NOT settled a 20:00 GMT
Nov 17 13:20:42 <_Fireball>	is that clear now?
Nov 17 13:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1200 @ 0.00280004 = 3.36 BTC [-]
Nov 17 13:20:47 <_Fireball>	you can check your own logs
Nov 17 13:20:52 <_Fireball>	you can confirm and verify
Nov 17 13:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	listen. is there some event occuring on your site every day at 20:00 ?
Nov 17 13:21:17 <_Fireball>	settlement day is 15.12.2012
Nov 17 13:21:27 <_Fireball>	yes, it's called clearing, it's a technical event
Nov 17 13:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	yes yes. you settle daily inasmuch as you keep moving margins around.
Nov 17 13:21:37 <smickles>	heh, mircea_popescu technically settlement is jargon
Nov 17 13:21:44 <smickles>	it has specific meaning
Nov 17 13:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	ignoring the fact you've got your terminology borkt.
Nov 17 13:22:18 <_Fireball>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearing_(finance)
Nov 17 13:22:32 <_Fireball>	vs
Nov 17 13:22:33 <_Fireball>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlement_(finance)
Nov 17 13:22:38 <smickles>	anyway, _Fireball so you suspect connection failure when I still saw the live depth updating?
Nov 17 13:23:24 <mircea_popescu>	dear old wikipedia.
Nov 17 13:23:45 <_Fireball>	smickles, that sometimes happens, I'm going to investigate the reasons, but ften it's just connection failure
Nov 17 13:24:10 <smickles>	_Fireball: I know the net does weird things sometimes, and I don't know your system thouroughly, but you can see why mircea_popescu is suspicious (to say the least)
Nov 17 13:24:19 <_Fireball>	it's in our internal issue tracker, so it's being worked on, and I will report if we find something on our end
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Nov 17 13:29:06 <_Fireball>	kakobrekla, could you send me details how to add futures trades reporting to this channel?
Nov 17 13:29:28 <_Fireball>	I PMed you my email
Nov 17 13:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	basically you output them to a twitter channel and the bot sucks them from there.
Nov 17 13:30:36 <_Fireball>	ah, that's cool!
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Nov 17 13:36:50 <_Fireball>	mircea_popescu, so?
Nov 17 13:37:08 <_Fireball>	are we past the point of clearing vs settlement differences?
Nov 17 13:44:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 119 @ 0.09306063 = 11.0742 BTC [+]
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Nov 17 13:51:56 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i booked passage to romania, lets go see romanian titties!!!
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Nov 17 13:55:49 <jurov>	thestringpuller, http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcdhhzni351rehruqo1_500.png
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Nov 17 13:56:58 <thestringpuller>	...
Nov 17 13:57:03 <thestringpuller>	oh jurov
Nov 17 13:57:18 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu, send the wrath of pr back on forums
Nov 17 13:57:18 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.20;topicseen
Nov 17 13:57:24 <kakobrekla>	i want to read continiuation.
Nov 17 13:59:22 <jurov>	kakobrekla, you can ensure that by inciting katz to join
Nov 17 13:59:31 <kakobrekla>	haha
Nov 17 13:59:57 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is too busy sleeping with her.
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Nov 17 14:04:04 <thestringpuller>	mpoe-pr is a little off
Nov 17 14:04:14 <thestringpuller>	silk road has much more revenue than mpex
Nov 17 14:04:51 <thestringpuller>	1.2M a year last time i checked
Nov 17 14:05:53 <kakobrekla>	inaba: until you start shipping asic STFU.
Nov 17 14:05:58 <lucidlepidoptera>	New bitcoin service startup, please take a look! https://btcjam.com/listings/584
Nov 17 14:06:07 <kakobrekla>	crackhead.
Nov 17 14:06:41 <lucidlepidoptera>	thank you kakobrekla, i think highly of you as well ;-)
Nov 17 14:06:46 <kakobrekla>	its like hashking would come to patricks thread
Nov 17 14:06:52 <kakobrekla>	saying patrick is scammer
Nov 17 14:06:58 <kakobrekla>	lucidlepidoptera, that was not ment for you
Nov 17 14:07:07 <kakobrekla>	im still ranting about inabas halicunations.
Nov 17 14:07:12 <kakobrekla>	brb
Nov 17 14:07:16 <lucidlepidoptera>	ah, i was wondering
Nov 17 14:07:21 <_Fireball>	kakobrekla, pls send me those details
Nov 17 14:07:26 <_Fireball>	about assbot
Nov 17 14:07:31 <kakobrekla>	_Fireball i wrote back to you in pm
Nov 17 14:07:33 <kakobrekla>	brb 10min
Nov 17 14:07:45 <_Fireball>	ahh thanks
Nov 17 14:07:48 <_Fireball>	ok cya
Nov 17 14:08:24 <thestringpuller>	mpex isnt that big tho
Nov 17 14:08:56 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: which was his point, even though he is nincumpoop
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Nov 17 14:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	umm what did i miss ?
Nov 17 14:14:30 <thestringpuller>	me coming to romania to fuck bitches
Nov 17 14:14:38 <thestringpuller>	i need to learn romanian first
Nov 17 14:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol cool
Nov 17 14:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller how would you even know what their revenue was ?
Nov 17 14:18:16 <thestringpuller>	a statician wrote a whitepaper on it. im looking for it now
Nov 17 14:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	yaya
Nov 17 14:18:22 <mircea_popescu>	Revenue : 12`755.59310383 BTC, of which :
Nov 17 14:18:26 <mircea_popescu>	that's s.mpoe for october.
Nov 17 14:18:35 <mircea_popescu>	seems to be a little over 1.2mn per year.
Nov 17 14:20:46 <thestringpuller>	is that pure revenue? money the bot made no?
Nov 17 14:21:37 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 146000 * 12
Nov 17 14:21:37 <gribble>	1752000
Nov 17 14:22:30 <thestringpuller>	thats silk roads annual take home
Nov 17 14:22:55 <thestringpuller>	based on : http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/onepercent/2012/08/silk-road-bitcoin-illegal.html
Nov 17 14:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 17 14:23:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.66611, Best ask: 11.73287, Bid-ask spread: 0.06676, Last trade: 11.66610, 24 hour volume: 22340.79606444, 24 hour low: 11.42000, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.65028
Nov 17 14:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  12755.5931038 * 12 * 11.66
Nov 17 14:23:56 <gribble>	1784762.58708
Nov 17 14:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	moar.
Nov 17 14:26:09 <thestringpuller>	can i see smickles mpoe financials i cant find them on your blog cause i dont speakuh da romanian
Nov 17 14:27:09 <FabianB_>	lucidlepidoptera: what's the difference between QuickBitcoins.net and ziggap.com?
Nov 17 14:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.80
Nov 17 14:28:22 <lucidlepidoptera>	FabianB_: we sold quicbitcoins, ziggap will be similar but much better ;-)
Nov 17 14:29:11 <FabianB_>	lucidlepidoptera: who bought it? doesn't seem to work anymore
Nov 17 14:29:40 <thestringpuller>	lucidlepidoptera: how are you planning to bypass moneygram fees
Nov 17 14:29:51 <aethero>	The buyer is wanting to remain undisclosed.
Nov 17 14:29:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00049771 = 9.4814 BTC [+]
Nov 17 14:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7702 @ 0.00050049 = 3.8548 BTC [+]
Nov 17 14:29:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: that's dividend information I wanted to see smickles reports
Nov 17 14:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23248 @ 0.00050058 = 11.6375 BTC [+]
Nov 17 14:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly, no "no compete" clause ?!
Nov 17 14:30:04 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller o, on mpoe.etf ?
Nov 17 14:30:06 <aethero>	mircea_popescu: nope
Nov 17 14:30:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;google mpoe.etf
Nov 17 14:30:09 <gribble>	[GLBSE] MPOE ETF - September Financial Report Available: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.0>; Most of Many (MostOfMany) on Twitter: <http://twitter.com/MostOfMany>; Mike Carver (smickles) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/smickles>
Nov 17 14:30:12 <aethero>	Moneygram charges the customer a flat fee at point of sell for a billpay
Nov 17 14:30:16 <smickles>	thestringpuller: mpoe.etf is dead
Nov 17 14:30:19 <aethero>	They dont charge the biller anything.
Nov 17 14:30:29 <smickles>	it was a glbse asset
Nov 17 14:30:36 <aethero>	It's like 3$ish
Nov 17 14:30:49 <smickles>	thestringpuller: you do want to look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg1230084#msg1230084
Nov 17 14:30:56 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you had written financials for mpoe's financials that used to be on polimedia blog
Nov 17 14:30:59 <thestringpuller>	am i confused?
Nov 17 14:31:00 <smickles>	it is S.MPOE's report in english
Nov 17 14:31:14 <thestringpuller>	there we go
Nov 17 14:31:16 <smickles>	yeah, a bit confused
Nov 17 14:31:19 <thestringpuller>	thank you smickles
Nov 17 14:31:26 <smickles>	np :)
Nov 17 14:31:44 <aethero>	thestringpuller: Do you have any other questions which I might be able to answer?
Nov 17 14:33:53 <thestringpuller>	aethero: so you signed up for moneygram's bill pay service?
Nov 17 14:34:21 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: it seems that the total profit was 4k btc
Nov 17 14:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller thought we were discussing revenue ?
Nov 17 14:34:57 <thestringpuller>	when I said revenue for silk road that was the total take home I apologize for the confusion
Nov 17 14:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Nov 17 14:35:15 <thestringpuller>	but who can compete with the mob
Nov 17 14:35:17 <mircea_popescu>	well, the profit varies wildly for mpoe, but it's never been more than 40%ish of revenue so
Nov 17 14:35:23 <pigeons>	sr takes 10% + seller seat fees
Nov 17 14:35:33 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: exactly
Nov 17 14:35:36 <aethero>	No we haven't yet, but we are currently in touch with a person at MoneyGram International, who is waiting for us to pull the trigger on this.
Nov 17 14:35:38 <pigeons>	thestringpuller: not aware of mob involvement
Nov 17 14:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons right. like you would be :D
Nov 17 14:37:29 <thestringpuller>	so server load costs can be no more than $5000 a year so they still have a $130,000 take home
Nov 17 14:37:35 <thestringpuller>	per month
Nov 17 14:37:43 <thestringpuller>	but again who can compete with selling drugs
Nov 17 14:37:46 <thestringpuller>	everyone wants drugs
Nov 17 14:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	i don't.
Nov 17 14:38:09 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: well sr is against the mob and the mob is against it, for business reasons. don't believe me and obviously i'm not in a postition to prove it, but when i see things thrown out there i respond
Nov 17 14:38:23 <thestringpuller>	i was joking about the mob involvement
Nov 17 14:38:28 <pigeons>	ok
Nov 17 14:38:30 <pigeons>	:)
Nov 17 14:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	i wasn't particularly serious either, just saying, not like the mob advertises
Nov 17 14:39:02 <mircea_popescu>	"this illegal business protected by teh mafia"
Nov 17 14:39:12 <thestringpuller>	sarcasm doesn't translate here usually
Nov 17 14:39:44 <pigeons>	all good
Nov 17 14:40:23 <thestringpuller>	what I meant by everyone wants drugs is it is "demographicaless"
Nov 17 14:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	besides, "the mob". there;'s what, fiddy billion factions. i don't think they even know anymore.
Nov 17 14:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	still, the one point of concern was that their weapons store closed for lack of business.
Nov 17 14:41:45 <mircea_popescu>	this may seem to indicate they don't really have much clientele. it could be just puffery, buncha kids selling bath salts and pills.
Nov 17 14:41:58 <mircea_popescu>	note that i have no idea and don't really care either way.
Nov 17 14:43:35 <jurov>	i guess usually only first few trades are done via sr, rest of them directly
Nov 17 14:43:45 <jurov>	so it depends on influx of newbs
Nov 17 14:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	ya but practically speaking, too easy to run a sting.
Nov 17 14:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	the market for narcotics is a very tough racked to break into.
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Nov 17 14:50:28 <thestringpuller>	depends
Nov 17 14:50:45 <thestringpuller>	recently it is unaffordable to sell drugs
Nov 17 14:50:55 <thestringpuller>	we can thank freakanomics for that
Nov 17 14:54:47 <smickles>	god dammit mircea_popescu, i'm sending you 1 usd worth of btc
Nov 17 14:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Nov 17 14:56:16 <smickles>	your paywall
Nov 17 14:56:21 <jurov>	prolly it's all that's left from icbit account?
Nov 17 14:56:27 <smickles>	lol
Nov 17 14:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol!
Nov 17 14:58:31 <thestringpuller>	so icbit is fucked
Nov 17 14:58:33 <thestringpuller>	?*
Nov 17 14:58:47 <smickles>	;;gribble 1/[ticker --last]
Nov 17 14:58:48 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Nov 17 14:58:54 <smickles>	;;calc 1/[ticker --last]
Nov 17 14:58:55 <gribble>	0.0852030431119
Nov 17 14:59:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 17 15:00:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 17 15:00:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.67001, Best ask: 11.73699, Bid-ask spread: 0.06698, Last trade: 11.73700, 24 hour volume: 21863.28175201, 24 hour low: 11.42000, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.65305
Nov 17 15:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,eur
Nov 17 15:00:45 <gribble>	Error: "bc,eur" is not a valid command.
Nov 17 15:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;google eur usd
Nov 17 15:01:05 <gribble>	EURUSD=X: Summary for EUR/USD- Yahoo! Finance: <http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=EURUSD=X>; EUR/USD - Google: <http://www.google.com/finance?q=EURUSD>; EUR to USD Exchange Rate - Bloomberg: <http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/EURUSD:CUR>
Nov 17 15:01:18 <FabianB_>	;;bc,convert eur
Nov 17 15:01:19 <gribble>	1 BTC = 11.73700 U.S. dollars = 9.22212619 Euros
Nov 17 15:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	ty!
Nov 17 15:01:50 <FabianB_>	np
Nov 17 15:09:46 <mircea_popescu>	see pigeons, smickles bought Trilema credits :D
Nov 17 15:10:34 <thestringpuller>	what are Trilema credits?
Nov 17 15:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	if you read a buncha posts it pops this paid content thign
Nov 17 15:11:08 <smickles>	thestringpuller: mircea_popescu has a paywall on his blog
Nov 17 15:11:30 <smickles>	you get 5 or so free, each time you read an article it ticks one off,
Nov 17 15:11:35 <smickles>	*5 free per week
Nov 17 15:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	5 a week ya
Nov 17 15:11:52 <smickles>	1 credit = .0001 usd iirc
Nov 17 15:12:42 <thestringpuller>	a paywall to read the blog?
Nov 17 15:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Nov 17 15:13:35 <thestringpuller>	how capitalistic
Nov 17 15:14:05 <thestringpuller>	can't i just connect from other computers?
Nov 17 15:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	i actually am the first guy online to charge for content
Nov 17 15:14:09 <thestringpuller>	and get around the paywall?
Nov 17 15:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	the system is in place since like 2010
Nov 17 15:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller sure.
Nov 17 15:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	if it's worth the 0.05 cents to you or w/e
Nov 17 15:14:28 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 17 15:15:52 <_Fireball>	"<thestringpuller> so icbit is fucked"
Nov 17 15:15:54 <_Fireball>	no, it's not
Nov 17 15:16:03 <_Fireball>	mircea_popescu is the one who is f..cked :-)
Nov 17 15:16:17 <thestringpuller>	are people about to lose a lot of money?
Nov 17 15:16:33 <_Fireball>	why?
Nov 17 15:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller the theory goes that some mysterious "manipulator" who had been keeping the price low on the site is losing all the money. not the site itself.
Nov 17 15:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	lucky that after wreaking havoc for a while he was scared by a trilema article.
Nov 17 15:17:32 <thestringpuller>	can I see this trilema article?
Nov 17 15:18:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 44 @ 0.07123871 = 3.1345 BTC [-]
Nov 17 15:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	also, http://ist1-1.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/1/_/_/_/1/1/d/m/P/1dmPZ/arch.jpg
Nov 17 15:18:55 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/
Nov 17 15:19:13 <aethero>	Why would someone even *want* to keep the price low?
Nov 17 15:19:27 <smickles>	they have a short position
Nov 17 15:19:36 <smickles>	and are trying to force liquidate longs
Nov 17 15:19:38 <_Fireball>	aethero, that one who has big "short" position
Nov 17 15:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	i don't know that many bitcoin bears.
Nov 17 15:20:33 <_Fireball>	mircea_popescu, the world is not limited by your personal knowledge
Nov 17 15:20:37 <smickles>	it's like a double down in blackjack
Nov 17 15:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	_Fireball well in this case, the frequency of bitcoin bears is limited by the fact that people who have bitcoins tend to believe in them too, or else they'd have never bought any.
Nov 17 15:21:50 <_Fireball>	mircea_popescu, do you realize there is such thing as arbitrage?
Nov 17 15:21:56 <_Fireball>	or hedging the risk using futures/
Nov 17 15:21:58 <_Fireball>	?
Nov 17 15:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	surely.
Nov 17 15:24:37 <_Fireball>	then you would not be surprised by people "shorting" bitcoins
Nov 17 15:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	people can short 100k bitcoins synthetically via options on the spot, and probably about the same in traditional borrow-short positions over the otc if they are well known
Nov 17 15:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	why would anyone want the 1 dollar slippage ?!
Nov 17 15:26:12 <_Fireball>	what does slippage has to do with short positions?
Nov 17 15:26:38 <_Fireball>	ah, about the current rate
Nov 17 15:26:53 <_Fireball>	the rate dropped *because* of the excessive shorting
Nov 17 15:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	you are proposing the theory whereby "someone" sold btc all the way to 10.02 YESTERDAY. his position covers a few hundred btc.
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Nov 17 15:27:34 <mircea_popescu>	if he's looking to hedge there's better avenues.
Nov 17 15:27:46 <_Fireball>	you are proposing theories
Nov 17 15:27:48 <_Fireball>	I have facts
Nov 17 15:31:22 <_Fireball>	anyway, you seem to be a troll
Nov 17 15:32:23 <_Fireball>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.0 is that true?
Nov 17 15:34:14 <_Fireball>	also, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.0 - this is the original topic about ICBIT, dated Nov 03, 2011
Nov 17 15:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	dude, srsly. you're wasting your time.
Nov 17 15:34:37 <_Fireball>	you "created" MPex https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76239.0 Apr 11, 2012
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Nov 17 15:34:53 <_Fireball>	so I demand apologies
Nov 17 15:35:28 <_Fireball>	ICBIT is obviously a way more mature service than your "exchange"
Nov 17 15:35:34 <_Fireball>	if it could be called so at all
Nov 17 15:35:43 <_Fireball>	because I have seen almost 0 positive opinions about it
Nov 17 15:35:44 <thestringpuller>	Why can't we just all get along
Nov 17 15:36:03 <_Fireball>	thestringpuller, I requested apologies from mircea_popescu already three times in a row
Nov 17 15:36:10 <_Fireball>	either he's a clinical idiot
Nov 17 15:36:12 <pigeons>	i like it. its not perfect, but nothing's better yet
Nov 17 15:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	well, do it five times, who knows, maybe repeating it helps.
Nov 17 15:36:22 <_Fireball>	or he's just a troll
Nov 17 15:36:43 <thestringpuller>	trolls get off on other people being upset
Nov 17 15:36:48 <thestringpuller>	mircea just doesn't care
Nov 17 15:36:54 <thestringpuller>	he dgaf
Nov 17 15:36:59 <pigeons>	no he trolls a little :)
Nov 17 15:37:19 <thestringpuller>	a little a lot
Nov 17 15:37:23 <thestringpuller>	tomato tomato
Nov 17 15:37:27 <_Fireball>	haha
Nov 17 15:37:52 <_Fireball>	as a trader, after speaking to such person, I would keep away from anything closely related to Popescu
Nov 17 15:38:01 <_Fireball>	he doesn't understand even basic financial stuff as we saw above
Nov 17 15:38:06 <pigeons>	yeah see that leaves us with nothing
Nov 17 15:38:09 <_Fireball>	how could he create an exchange after all?
Nov 17 15:38:39 <thestringpuller>	maybe it's a big conspiracy
Nov 17 15:38:45 <thestringpuller>	and he cause the 1989 revolution
Nov 17 15:38:51 <_Fireball>	looks like it :-)
Nov 17 15:38:53 <thestringpuller>	and he didn't really create mpex
Nov 17 15:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	heh srsly. you were just blown to bits and you're gonna what, bite my arms off ? bleed on me ?
Nov 17 15:38:57 <mircea_popescu>	get real.
Nov 17 15:39:15 <kakobrekla>	its just a scratch.
Nov 17 15:39:19 <thestringpuller>	there was a mongolian soldier who after his swords broke used dead bodies to continue to fight
Nov 17 15:39:30 <smickles>	kakobrekla: just a fleshwound
Nov 17 15:39:37 <kakobrekla>	smickles :)
Nov 17 15:39:46 <smickles>	fleshwound? me spel gud
Nov 17 15:40:02 <kakobrekla>	werry gut
Nov 17 15:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	i just watched life of brian earlier
Nov 17 15:40:22 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 17 15:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	there's this scene where the roman guard makes him fix his spelling
Nov 17 15:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	cause it's not domus!!!
Nov 17 15:40:38 <smickles>	lolyeah
Nov 17 15:40:41 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 17 15:41:14 <thestringpuller>	ah but did you expect the spanish inquisition?
Nov 17 15:41:26 <mircea_popescu>	actually... http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#33
Nov 17 15:41:34 <mircea_popescu>	i been waiting for this soo long...
Nov 17 15:41:49 <kakobrekla>	:D
Nov 17 15:42:03 <thestringpuller>	i'm laughing so hard right now
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Nov 17 15:49:45 <_Fireball>	ok guys, it was nice meeting you all (except popescu, of course)
Nov 17 15:50:03 <_Fireball>	when I have some free time, I will do live reporting via twitter
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Nov 17 15:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	sooo updated the faq! check out my fancy awards! http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#33
Nov 17 15:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	why didn't he like me anyway ? i was nice enough...
Nov 17 15:56:58 <thestringpuller>	maybe he doesn't like romanian gangstas
Nov 17 15:56:59 <thestringpuller>	jk
Nov 17 16:02:13 <smickles>	Cherries!
Nov 17 16:03:47 <Doffx>	Anything new with Glbse these days
Nov 17 16:04:08 <Doffx>	Ive pretty much stopped following anything bitcoin.
Nov 17 16:04:15 <smickles>	nope
Nov 17 16:04:31 <Doffx>	Well that's poopy.
Nov 17 16:04:50 <smickles>	you're telling me
Nov 17 16:06:33 <Doffx>	It's all Azelphur's fault, had he made the Mpex Passthrough website 6 months ago like he said we would all be rich.
Nov 17 16:06:45 <Doffx>	:P
Nov 17 16:07:36 <smickles>	at least jurov has coinbr.com now
Nov 17 16:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	azelphur is very lazy boi!
Nov 17 16:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway Doffx you missed out on all the drama&outrage earlier.
Nov 17 16:09:42 <Doffx>	I think I was more saved from, rather than missed anything, however that's my opinion.
Nov 17 16:09:47 <Doffx>	:)
Nov 17 16:10:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 17 16:10:46 <mircea_popescu>	guy was a couple steps from provoking me to a duel
Nov 17 16:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	or breaking out in tears.
Nov 17 16:11:12 <Doffx>	Take 10 steps then draw your weapon sirs.
Nov 17 16:11:15 <jurov>	i think if azelphur decided 6 months ago, now it would be in alpha, at most.. not a simple endeavor
Nov 17 16:11:39 <Doffx>	Oh I'm just nudging Azelphur because hes a cool guy.
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Nov 17 16:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	he is a cool guy, but lately he's all but dissapeared.
Nov 17 16:12:03 <Doffx>	I never expected anything from it even way back them but it was a good idea.
Nov 17 16:12:04 <jurov>	a bit too cool now
Nov 17 16:12:24 <Doffx>	Hes prolly been playing Planetside.
Nov 17 16:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	why can't he have found a gf
Nov 17 16:12:43 <Azelphur>	I decided not to do it as I don't like my code handling large amounts of money
Nov 17 16:12:48 <Azelphur>	would just be a constant source of lost sleep
Nov 17 16:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	sleep is for women
Nov 17 16:13:14 <Doffx>	See there he is.
Nov 17 16:13:28 <Azelphur>	:)
Nov 17 16:13:32 <Doffx>	Hes a shut in computer geek, no time for girls they eat up all your time.
Nov 17 16:13:47 <Doffx>	That was redundant.
Nov 17 16:13:55 <Azelphur>	Hi captain redundant
Nov 17 16:14:01 <Doffx>	haha
Nov 17 16:14:18 <Doffx>	What games are you playing anyhow Azelphur?
Nov 17 16:14:28 <Azelphur>	I've been playing the TF2 Linux beta :P
Nov 17 16:14:46 <Doffx>	Oh nice.
Nov 17 16:14:58 <Doffx>	Isint steam going to be Linux ready soon too?
Nov 17 16:15:10 <Azelphur>	steam is part of said beta
Nov 17 16:15:10 <Azelphur>	:)
Nov 17 16:15:18 <Doffx>	I'm curious how that will work I should look in to it again/
Nov 17 16:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135318695394.jpg
Nov 17 16:16:04 <Azelphur>	it works, I'm using it, AMA
Nov 17 16:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	im starting to think my driver sucks
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Nov 17 16:26:43 <smickles>	Azelphur: what's there to ask? you already said it works.
Nov 17 16:26:55 <Azelphur>	smickles: :P
Nov 17 16:27:15 <smickles>	heh, it also works under wine with the -opengl launch command
Nov 17 16:27:33 <Azelphur>	smickles: it runs faster on native Linux than it does on Windows
Nov 17 16:27:36 <Azelphur>	so, huge improvement
Nov 17 16:27:38 <smickles>	porlly
Nov 17 16:29:34 <Azelphur>	definitely, I have both :P
Nov 17 16:34:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 5 @ 0.1432 = 0.716 BTC [-]
Nov 17 16:34:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 10 @ 0.2201083 = 2.2011 BTC [+]
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Nov 17 16:42:11 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 17 16:42:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.72000, Best ask: 11.72795, Bid-ask spread: 0.00795, Last trade: 11.72000, 24 hour volume: 20393.60504399, 24 hour low: 11.52000, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.66542
Nov 17 16:42:15 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 17 16:42:15 <gribble>	11.65
Nov 17 16:46:36 <Doffx>	Ahh Limited Invite 1000 people
Nov 17 16:46:42 <Doffx>	And you made it in Azelphur?
Nov 17 16:46:48 <Doffx>	Wow impressive
Nov 17 16:46:51 <Azelphur>	Doffx: "made it in"
Nov 17 16:47:30 <Doffx>	I cant use playonlinux right now
Nov 17 16:48:07 <Doffx>	the New nvidia drivers have the 32bit multi inside them but it doesn’t seem to know that
Nov 17 16:48:23 <Doffx>	I'm not sure how you get around that yet.
Nov 17 16:49:01 <Doffx>	PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL libraries.
Nov 17 16:49:07 <Azelphur>	I'm using it on 64bit nvidia proprietary
Nov 17 16:49:41 <Doffx>	Yeah I was before as well, but I had loaded the 32 bit glx and those are gone now rolled up in to the main driver
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Nov 17 17:11:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.pleated-jeans.com/2012/02/17/this-crazy-girls-texting-tops-them-all/
Nov 17 17:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda lulzy.
Nov 17 17:17:49 <smickles>	oh yeah https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1341673#msg1341673
Nov 17 17:18:51 <kakobrekla>	i will never see my ss coins.
Nov 17 17:19:03 <kakobrekla>	goddamn nazis.
Nov 17 17:21:30 <smickles>	kakobrekla: well, once i consolidate them, you can see them all you want
Nov 17 17:21:46 <smickles>	heh, lost nazi coins
Nov 17 17:22:18 <kakobrekla>	smickles
Nov 17 17:22:23 <kakobrekla>	i want to see the private parts of em
Nov 17 17:22:26 <kakobrekla>	;)
Nov 17 17:23:40 <smickles>	:o
Nov 17 17:23:56 <smickles>	jezus mircea_popescu that link, it goes on forever
Nov 17 17:25:56 <kakobrekla>	meh redditors.
Nov 17 17:25:59 <kakobrekla>	sex is overrated.
Nov 17 17:27:37 <mircea_popescu>	smickles the link that keeps on giving
Nov 17 17:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	how much capital in the ss thing ?
Nov 17 17:29:31 <smickles>	under 400 in btc and about 300 worth of obligations to ss
Nov 17 17:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	bitter but not the end of the world.
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Nov 17 18:01:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40150 @ 0.00049704 = 19.9562 BTC [-]
Nov 17 18:01:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1968 @ 0.00049729 = 0.9787 BTC [+]
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Nov 17 18:21:08 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 17 18:21:14 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: funny
Nov 17 18:22:19 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you around?
Nov 17 18:26:59 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yup
Nov 17 18:28:14 <smickles>	coding and waiting for a chain to sync
Nov 17 18:28:24 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 17 18:28:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.72288, Best ask: 11.72418, Bid-ask spread: 0.00130, Last trade: 11.72288, 24 hour volume: 19759.87479185, 24 hour low: 11.52000, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.67289
Nov 17 18:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	;;google gpg contracts
Nov 17 18:30:28 <gribble>	GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gpg-contracts/>; GPG Chapter II: <http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/policydocs/pappguide/nsf11001/gpg_2.jsp>; FAQs - National Science Foundation: <http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/gpg/faqs.pdf>
Nov 17 18:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	ok, i rule.
Nov 17 18:34:05 <thestringpuller>	i will google warfare you
Nov 17 18:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	go ahead, that domain is a fucking battleship
Nov 17 18:43:00 <BTCHero>	TheButterZone: if you ever decide to leave -otc are you going to unrate everyone first?http://pastebin.com/rjchDV9v
Nov 17 18:43:03 <BTCHero>	[B[B[B
Nov 17 18:43:05 <BTCHero>	llllcccccc5;3~cccccv
Nov 17 18:43:08 <BTCHero>	[B[B[B
Nov 17 18:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	?
Nov 17 18:44:40 <thestringpuller>	Is it human?
Nov 17 18:44:45 <pigeons>	clipboard issues
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Nov 17 19:00:45 <BTCHero>	whoops
Nov 17 19:00:47 <BTCHero>	sorry
Nov 17 19:00:56 <BTCHero>	Daughter got ahold of the keyboard
Nov 17 19:06:59 <smickles>	I was just asked if we have a claim process ready for if glbse never gives out info
Nov 17 19:07:43 <pigeons>	in most cases i don't see how it could be done
Nov 17 19:07:52 <smickles>	'zactly
Nov 17 19:08:13 <smickles>	I said that if a good process becomes known, we'll use it
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Nov 17 19:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	everyone's asked this and nobody'll have a good answer.
Nov 17 19:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	teh people will be pissy.
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Nov 17 19:42:55 <smickles>	am i doing this wrong?
Nov 17 19:43:11 <smickles>	;;calc 50*6*24*30*[ticker --last]
Nov 17 19:43:11 <gribble>	2550957.84
Nov 17 19:47:08 <pigeons>	 /2
Nov 17 19:47:15 <pigeons>	;)
Nov 17 19:47:19 <smickles>	soon
Nov 17 19:47:28 <smickles>	;s
Nov 17 19:47:31 <smickles>	so soon
Nov 17 19:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 4 @ 0.10733077 = 0.4293 BTC [-]
Nov 17 19:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ? six months worth of bitcoins ?
Nov 17 19:50:29 <smickles>	one month
Nov 17 19:50:34 <mircea_popescu>	a yeah
Nov 17 19:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	tho im pretty sure there's barely two weeks left.
Nov 17 19:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	more like 10 days
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Nov 17 19:51:32 <smickles>	yeah, but it means that the miners ar prolly using or saving most of the generated btc recently
Nov 17 19:51:51 <smickles>	'cause if they were selling it, it'd tank the price
Nov 17 19:53:01 <smickles>	well, maybe i'm wrong here,
Nov 17 19:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	alternatively, it means that mtgox's marketshare leaking has been going steady and possibly aggravating
Nov 17 19:53:07 <mircea_popescu>	to the point they don't have half the market.
Nov 17 19:53:12 <smickles>	mtgox 30day volume is 10mil usd
Nov 17 19:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	i fear they went from two thirds this spring to something like 40% today.
Nov 17 19:53:56 <smickles>	well, i'll calc that # right now
Nov 17 19:54:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 17 19:54:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.79000, Best ask: 11.81000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 11.79000, 24 hour volume: 19628.77008381, 24 hour low: 11.52000, 24 hour high: 11.81000, 24 hour vwap: 11.67984
Nov 17 19:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	i guess we see 12 soon
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Nov 17 19:56:43 <smickles>	30 day volume of all bitcoincharts reporting exchanges (except gox)
Nov 17 19:56:45 <smickles>	642026
Nov 17 19:56:58 <smickles>	gox
Nov 17 19:57:03 <smickles>	972593
Nov 17 19:57:25 <smickles>	;;calc 972593/(972593+642026)
Nov 17 19:57:25 <gribble>	0.602366874167
Nov 17 19:58:15 <Bugpowder>	gox deposits were totally fucked up from USA last month
Nov 17 19:58:21 <Bugpowder>	don't know if that has changed
Nov 17 19:58:28 <Bugpowder>	BofA blacklist
Nov 17 20:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	smickles you realise plenty of trade happens otc
Nov 17 20:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	o look, it's Bugpowder
Nov 17 20:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	how you been ?
Nov 17 20:00:38 <Bugpowder>	busy
Nov 17 20:01:00 <Bugpowder>	I see I should have held onto my MPOE stock
Nov 17 20:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	better busy than dead
Nov 17 20:01:07 <mircea_popescu>	o, you sold ?
Nov 17 20:01:14 <Bugpowder>	could have made all the fucked up losses back
Nov 17 20:01:30 <Bugpowder>	story of the bitcoin stock world
Nov 17 20:01:50 <Bugpowder>	at least MPCD.A was good
Nov 17 20:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	naw, story of the bitcoin stock world is moar like http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/
Nov 17 20:01:59 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, we can't discount otc trading
Nov 17 20:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	o, btw, patrick harnett has scammer tag now.
Nov 17 20:02:06 <Bugpowder>	Paid Content  This article is available for a fee.
Nov 17 20:02:10 <mircea_popescu>	aww!
Nov 17 20:02:10 <Bugpowder>	heh
Nov 17 20:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	hey, you been reading it ?!
Nov 17 20:02:30 <Bugpowder>	getting up to date on the latest
Nov 17 20:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	so pay me! :D
Nov 17 20:03:03 <Bugpowder>	GLBSE paid me my coins, but not my stock
Nov 17 20:03:41 <Bugpowder>	how many credits per article
Nov 17 20:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	1
Nov 17 20:04:17 <Bugpowder>	cheaper than the time
Nov 17 20:04:18 <Bugpowder>	times
Nov 17 20:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	that's the idea.
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Nov 17 20:07:39 <smickles>	mircea_popescu is clearly making a living off of trilema credits
Nov 17 20:08:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol. actually, it was making ok money before mpex.
Nov 17 20:08:45 <smickles>	;;sell 900 "Trilema Credits" at .1 BTC
Nov 17 20:08:46 <gribble>	Order id 11746 created.
Nov 17 20:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Nov 17 20:11:24 <smickles>	may as well test the waters ;)
Nov 17 20:11:41 <thestringpuller>	;;bc
Nov 17 20:11:42 <gribble>	Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
Nov 17 20:11:48 <Bugpowder>	I wonder how much I could make off my blog with Adsense
Nov 17 20:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	you have a blog ?
Nov 17 20:14:13 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Nov 17 20:14:23 <Bugpowder>	popular in the science world
Nov 17 20:14:24 <smickles>	Bugpowder: i heard that the various btc ad networks pay better
Nov 17 20:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol so link it
Nov 17 20:14:48 <Bugpowder>	I think the most profits would be direct negotiation with companies
Nov 17 20:15:00 <Bugpowder>	because its specialized
Nov 17 20:15:19 <Bugpowder>	http://brainwindows.org
Nov 17 20:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	genetics ?
Nov 17 20:16:36 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool.
Nov 17 20:17:22 *	mircea_popescu reads cv
Nov 17 20:17:24 <smickles>	"The field of connectomics …." /me has some research to do now
Nov 17 20:17:53 <smickles>	i must know what connectomics is in detail
Nov 17 20:18:41 <Bugpowder>	cv is out of date
Nov 17 20:18:57 <Bugpowder>	Let me update that link
Nov 17 20:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	so basically guy is a brain surgeon :D
Nov 17 20:21:11 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: lol, i feel little now, my blog is all of two piddly unimportant links, this guy's blog is interesting science
Nov 17 20:21:27 <mircea_popescu>	well so you just started.
Nov 17 20:21:55 *	smickles is on a mission to blog about cutting edge ...
Nov 17 20:21:59 <smickles>	(wait for it)
Nov 17 20:22:04 <smickles>	ACCOUNTING!
Nov 17 20:22:55 <smickles>	totally got to write about the 'merican transition to fair value accounting methods
Nov 17 20:23:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol. the us is never moving to fair value.
Nov 17 20:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	it can't, by now.
Nov 17 20:23:38 <Bugpowder>	mouse neurosurgeon
Nov 17 20:23:47 <Bugpowder>	much more difficult
Nov 17 20:23:49 <Bugpowder>	everything is smaller
Nov 17 20:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you're gonna steal all oru womenz
Nov 17 20:24:05 <Bugpowder>	but... if you fuck up, get a new one
Nov 17 20:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha you ever watch seinfeld ? is this episode which includes the need for very small instruments
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Nov 17 20:25:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu watches seinfeld? hahaha
Nov 17 20:25:33 <Bugpowder>	I am not familiar with that episode, they only play the same 10 episodes in syndication
Nov 17 20:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	i have the whole collection, i musta seen each episode a dozen times
Nov 17 20:26:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheMervGriffinShow.htm
Nov 17 20:26:33 <mircea_popescu>	that's the onwe
Nov 17 20:27:13 *	mircea_popescu intends to read and comment on http://brainwindows.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/freedom-of-scientific-information/ tomorro
Nov 17 20:27:22 <Bugpowder>	smickles This is a reasonable intro to connectomics... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwjcLKegBfg  He is the one stealing all the women btw.
Nov 17 20:27:28 <Bugpowder>	I am married
Nov 17 20:27:58 <smickles>	Bugpowder: tkx :)\
Nov 17 20:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	being married makes it worse.
Nov 17 20:30:01 <Bugpowder>	hehe
Nov 17 20:32:25 <Bugpowder>	Wow.  Mariota is fast
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Nov 17 20:42:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10032 @ 0.00049729 = 4.9888 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00049733 = 18.9483 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41347 @ 0.00049744 = 20.5677 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00049753 = 9.2043 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00049762 = 12.2912 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31102 @ 0.00050058 = 15.569 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12213 @ 0.00050064 = 6.1143 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55400 @ 0.00050068 = 27.7377 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00050073 = 13.8452 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.00050081 = 19.5065 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26447 @ 0.00050082 = 13.2452 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9693 @ 0.00050087 = 4.8549 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34967 @ 0.00050092 = 17.5157 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:42:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.00050376 = 23.9286 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00050381 = 15.9708 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28550 @ 0.00050382 = 14.3841 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00050383 = 9.9003 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36650 @ 0.00050388 = 18.4672 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19504 @ 0.00050392 = 9.8285 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48243 @ 0.00050394 = 24.3116 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41600 @ 0.00050395 = 20.9643 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51500 @ 0.00050395 = 25.9534 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00050395 = 2.3434 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51005 @ 0.000504 = 25.7065 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30605 @ 0.000504 = 15.4249 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00050401 = 14.7171 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45650 @ 0.00050402 = 23.0085 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31001 @ 0.00050403 = 15.6254 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00050404 = 15.6756 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00050412 = 3.4784 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33462 @ 0.00050412 = 16.8689 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37280 @ 0.00050413 = 18.794 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5149 @ 0.00050415 = 2.5959 BTC [+]
Nov 17 20:43:42 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Nov 17 20:46:13 <pigeons>	don't input those "random numbers" into gribble's calculator
Nov 17 20:46:20 <smickles>	lol
Nov 17 20:46:42 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Nov 17 20:47:25 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons inaba was cute, seeing how he's a sort of bfl-pr
Nov 17 20:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	sans teh brasiere.
Nov 17 20:49:32 <thestringpuller>	is that a joke because mpoe-pr doesn't wear a brasiere?
Nov 17 20:49:48 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu thinks that inaba doesn't wear one
Nov 17 20:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	he does ?!
Nov 17 20:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	til.
Nov 17 20:52:13 <pigeons>	i didn't say he does. i just think you're being a little hasty saying he doesn't
Nov 17 20:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Nov 17 20:59:01 *	smickles got totally owned by the mpex bot
Nov 17 20:59:35 <smickles>	I was going to bid .0009 for some options,
Nov 17 20:59:56 <smickles>	bot came along and bid .07
Nov 17 21:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 4 @ 0.07 = 0.28 BTC [-]
Nov 17 21:00:18 <thestringpuller>	:)
Nov 17 21:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	110t, that has a good chance to expire worthless i guess
Nov 17 21:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons but anyway, what's the latest word on bfl delivery ? december ?
Nov 17 21:03:15 <mircea_popescu>	(i don't follow mining much)
Nov 17 21:04:40 <pigeons>	i haven't been following it either. one of the other compies (bASIC?) sent customers and email that their orders were "ready to ship" and they are the first asic miner company ready to ship (just as soon as they assemble and test them)
Nov 17 21:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	only in bitcoinland untested and unassembled items are "ready to ship"
Nov 17 21:05:17 <smickles>	lol, ready to ship, but we need to build them and see if they work firs
Nov 17 21:05:27 <thestringpuller>	XD
Nov 17 21:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... see this pile of wood over here my good man smickles ?
Nov 17 21:05:40 <mircea_popescu>	this is your ready to ship kitchen table
Nov 17 21:05:49 <smickles>	mircea_popescu == ikea?
Nov 17 21:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha! basikea!
Nov 17 21:05:59 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125588.0
Nov 17 21:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	isn't this cablepair's thing ?
Nov 17 21:06:47 <pigeons>	yes
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Nov 17 21:07:03 <pigeons>	they printed the shipping invoices too, so they are ready
Nov 17 21:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	btcfpga ?
Nov 17 21:07:41 <mircea_popescu>	didn't even know those existed
Nov 17 21:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	buzzdave
Nov 17 21:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	Head of PR for BTCFPGA
Nov 17 21:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	Global Moderator
Nov 17 21:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	no this isn't basic. apparently a different one ?
Nov 17 21:08:05 <pigeons>	ah, it seems bfl componenets are "being loaded on a truck" for assembly when they arrive
Nov 17 21:08:52 <mircea_popescu>	How are the numbers looking for Batch1?
Nov 17 21:08:52 <mircea_popescu>	-I've got a pretty solid handle on number of units paid with BTC and completed Credit Cards.  However I have over 350 54G units for which the credit card payments need to be verified.  If every single one of those orders reconciles to a payment (doubtful), we'll be at around 800 of the 54G units paid for and in the ship-pile.
Nov 17 21:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	wait, they sold 800 units so took like 1mn ?!
Nov 17 21:09:33 <pigeons>	yeah
Nov 17 21:09:43 <pigeons>	look at the price of that product
Nov 17 21:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	like 1k no ?
Nov 17 21:10:27 <pigeons>	yeah i thought 1200 for the 54g
Nov 17 21:10:47 <pigeons>	man i am the least informed on bitcoin asic miners anyway
Nov 17 21:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	so these guys got 1mn in, bfl took something like 5-6 ?
Nov 17 21:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	overall the market is like10mn for these things.
Nov 17 21:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 25 * 6 * 24 * 30 * 12
Nov 17 21:12:11 <gribble>	1296000
Nov 17 21:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	they're all fighting (with the current miners) for a 1,3 btc stake the next year.
Nov 17 21:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	1,3mn btc
Nov 17 21:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	i suspect tears.
Nov 17 21:13:20 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126415.msg1342108#msg1342108
Nov 17 21:13:21 <smickles>	;;title
Nov 17 21:13:21 <gribble>	(title <url>) -- Returns the HTML <title>...</title> of a URL.
Nov 17 21:13:27 <smickles>	;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126415.msg1342108#msg1342108
Nov 17 21:13:29 <gribble>	Private school is child slavery!!!
Nov 17 21:13:38 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu Mining is a loser game
Nov 17 21:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder well... i kinda stayed out of it.
Nov 17 21:13:56 <Bugpowder>	unless you are first
Nov 17 21:14:11 <smickles>	Bugpowder: not if the tax deduction is taken into account, and you planned to pay taxes in the first place
Nov 17 21:14:32 <Bugpowder>	tax deduction??
Nov 17 21:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	smickles in an economy as shitty as this tax credits aren't worht the mention
Nov 17 21:14:44 <mircea_popescu>	i have tax credits coming out my ears.
Nov 17 21:14:57 <smickles>	business can deduct expenses, like equipment purchases
Nov 17 21:14:58 <Bugpowder>	deductions are going bye bye
Nov 17 21:15:04 <Bugpowder>	yeah ok
Nov 17 21:15:07 <Bugpowder>	business
Nov 17 21:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	well ofcourse business.
Nov 17 21:15:15 <Bugpowder>	"business"
Nov 17 21:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i could probably bill an aditional 1-200k euros and not pay 100 euros more in tax atm for instance.
Nov 17 21:15:39 <Bugpowder>	how many of these people are even sole proprietor?
Nov 17 21:16:02 <Bugpowder>	90% of the buyers don't have a 'business' officially set up
Nov 17 21:16:26 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, i have too many deductions
Nov 17 21:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	true.
Nov 17 21:16:56 <smickles>	and because the 'merican tax system is fucked,
Nov 17 21:17:04 <smickles>	not only did i not pay fed income tax,
Nov 17 21:17:09 <smickles>	they gave me 5kusd
Nov 17 21:17:58 <pigeons>	oh mircea_popescu, i thought for curiouslty you might be interested in the new litecoin global TOS.
Nov 17 21:18:02 <pigeons>	http://pastebin.com/7y9ck6i1
Nov 17 21:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	litecoin has a tos ?!
Nov 17 21:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	that's outrageous
Nov 17 21:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	o, the exchange, not the coin itself nm
Nov 17 21:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	"The Corporation has zero legal tender exposure in any jurisdiction."
Nov 17 21:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	heh. i recall the day mpoe-pr turned the tide on the sec panic. i suppose i shall be the only one to recall this.
Nov 17 21:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, someone spent a day dilligently hammering c/p'd bits together, i call this progress.
Nov 17 21:20:26 <smickles>	lol, they have, in their tos, made the "it's not legal tender, so it's not illegal' argument?
Nov 17 21:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	of sorts.
Nov 17 21:21:06 <pigeons>	they are now run by BTC-TRADING, INC and so they changed the TOS to what I linked
Nov 17 21:21:43 <smickles>	lol, 53 lines into it "We urge you to carefully read the Terms and Conditions of this Agreement and all other policies and disclosure statements referenced here or elsewhere on the website. Such policies are incorporated into this Agreement by reference and collectively form part of this Agreement."
Nov 17 21:21:58 <smickles>	they wait 53 lines to say that you should read it
Nov 17 21:22:02 <pigeons>	your litecoins magically become "LITS" when you deposit them
Nov 17 21:22:32 <pigeons>	in case you thought litecoins were legal tender somewhere
Nov 17 21:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	who's doing this anyway ?
Nov 17 21:22:44 <pigeons>	burnside is the guy's handle
Nov 17 21:22:45 <smickles>	nefario-jr
Nov 17 21:22:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;gettrust burnside
Nov 17 21:22:59 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user burnside: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=burnside
Nov 17 21:23:05 <mircea_popescu>	ravishing.
Nov 17 21:23:53 <smickles>	i wish gribble reported l3 trust to, labeling it something like 'Tanya down the street\'s rating'
Nov 17 21:24:11 <pigeons>	anyway, the btc version is in testing,further along than asics
Nov 17 21:24:38 <Bugpowder>	A lawyer friend was not impressed with the monopoly money SEC defense argument btw...
Nov 17 21:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder anything more concrete than that ?
Nov 17 21:25:49 <Bugpowder>	he is not a securities lawyer
Nov 17 21:25:57 <Bugpowder>	but he provided a bit of analysis
Nov 17 21:25:59 <smickles>	do you think that the romanian regulators would see it the same way
Nov 17 21:26:35 <smickles>	there has to be the law violated, not the precedent of other judgements iirc
Nov 17 21:26:45 <Bugpowder>	I'll post it on Trilema
Nov 17 21:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	that works. do you ahve the link ?
Nov 17 21:28:08 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Nov 17 21:28:28 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/
Nov 17 21:29:13 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: where does the file have to be located for your avatar grabber to grab it?
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Nov 17 21:29:30 <smickles>	and what is the code to do that?
Nov 17 21:29:31 <pigeons>	oh here are the LTC-GLOBAL terms for creating an asset. The other one was for investors, err regular players of the simulation game: https://www.litecoinglobal.com/create
Nov 17 21:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	smickles in the url you declare.
Nov 17 21:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	the page simply lists your avatar as <img src=your_url/avatar.png>
Nov 17 21:30:38 <smickles>	based off of the website feild or the server of the email field?
Nov 17 21:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	This is accomplished by selling a true .virtual. ownership interest in the company to investors.
Nov 17 21:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	lets not make sense
Nov 17 21:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	smickles the website field.
Nov 17 21:31:59 <Bugpowder>	posted
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Nov 17 21:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder well... there's an answer.
Nov 17 21:46:29 <pigeons>	does googlebot have to pay the credit fee
Nov 17 21:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons eheheh yep
Nov 17 21:47:21 <mircea_popescu>	smickles your avatar worx nao
Nov 17 21:48:11 <smickles>	it's worked for as long as I have tried to have it work
Nov 17 21:48:13 <pigeons>	why does nobody hold title to any inputs?
Nov 17 21:48:32 <pigeons>	i thought private key of the address was so
Nov 17 21:49:23 <smickles>	pigeons: the btc was there already, no owner ... as i vaugely recall
Nov 17 21:49:48 <smickles>	and you don't become the owner by having a priv key associated with a btc
Nov 17 21:50:00 <pigeons>	why not though?
Nov 17 21:50:20 <smickles>	because you don't control the btc, it stays where it always was?
Nov 17 21:50:34 <pigeons>	ok thanks
Nov 17 21:50:39 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons title tho.
Nov 17 21:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	you have the address so you have the control of the sum. that's posession.
Nov 17 21:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	whence do you have the title ?
Nov 17 21:51:21 <smickles>	can you have title to something that the state doesn't give title for?
Nov 17 21:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	do you mean to claim allodial title, as in, you were given it by god ?
Nov 17 21:51:25 <pigeons>	yes
Nov 17 21:51:36 <mircea_popescu>	or else, is it fee simple ? is it from the monarch ? whence do you have it ?
Nov 17 21:52:10 <smickles>	pigeons: i have title over this domain
Nov 17 21:52:25 <smickles>	http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Smickles#Titles
Nov 17 21:53:00 <mircea_popescu>	smickles do you know about the writing contest btw ?
Nov 17 21:54:04 <smickles>	I should scrabble together something at least
Nov 17 21:54:39 <pigeons>	there is work on using bitcoin as a title system to real word assets also
Nov 17 21:55:06 <pigeons>	maybe namecoin is better for that casue you can also add values i dont know
Nov 17 21:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	well, you're conflating distinct things.
Nov 17 21:56:19 <Bugpowder>	sigh
Nov 17 21:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	that the bitcoin protocol may well be used or useful as a record of title is not too relevant in a discussion of actual title to bitcoins
Nov 17 21:56:23 <Bugpowder>	satoshidice
Nov 17 21:56:30 <Bugpowder>	just took my glbse moneys
Nov 17 21:56:33 <pigeons>	yes i see your point mircea_popescu
Nov 17 21:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	apparently it's making money this month
Nov 17 21:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	are you halping Bugpowder ?
Nov 17 21:56:53 <smickles>	Bugpowder: as a shareholder, thankyou
Nov 17 21:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 17 21:57:01 <pigeons>	does last month's satoshi dice loss come out of any dividends this month?
Nov 17 21:57:10 <Bugpowder>	27 straight losses
Nov 17 21:57:10 *	mircea_popescu lemme check
Nov 17 21:57:18 <Bugpowder>	pigeons yes
Nov 17 21:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	(f)Immediately upon publication of each Statement of Profit and Loss SatoshiDice will pay to shareholders as dividends a fraction of no less than 100% (one hundred percent) of the Net Profits, if any.
Nov 17 21:57:36 <pigeons>	ok keep playing then a little more please Bugpowder
Nov 17 21:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	(h)In case of a monthly loss (which will occur occasionally due to the nature of statistical variance of bets), the loss amount will be carried over to the next month’s profits when calculating Net Profits.
Nov 17 21:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, it carries over.
Nov 17 21:57:57 <smickles>	pigeons: the dooglas chart shows that it's been overcome
Nov 17 21:58:10 <smickles>	(even accounting for the bitcoin friday donation)
Nov 17 21:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what's the numbers ? so i don't have to load the forum
Nov 17 21:58:32 <Bugpowder>	It's up 3000BTC
Nov 17 21:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	a not bad.
Nov 17 21:58:58 <mircea_popescu>	course... a coupla weeks to go, could do -5000 a day or w/e
Nov 17 21:59:49 <mircea_popescu>	Upon such sale of stock, the owners, officers, and executives of the selling company obligate themselves with a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders.
Nov 17 22:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	jesus christ, people with a thesaurus should stop writing lawyeresque prose.
Nov 17 22:00:13 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.460
Nov 17 22:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	betraying a complete lack of understanding of even the most basic notions.
Nov 17 22:01:37 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: about 15000 - 8000 - 2000
Nov 17 22:02:06 <smickles>	total profit nao, total profit at beginning of month, last months loss
Nov 17 22:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	ya seems up a good amt. cool.
Nov 17 22:02:42 <smickles>	#'s just from eyeballing chart
Nov 17 22:03:49 <smickles>	oh yeah, tack on a - 400 for the donation
Nov 17 22:04:49 *	mircea_popescu imagines how well that'd have worked if mpex shares had voting power.
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Nov 17 22:05:10 <smickles>	do you really need to imagine?
Nov 17 22:05:28 <smickles>	voting power == short term gain is the ultimate goal
Nov 17 22:05:46 <smickles>	day-over-day, month-over-month, year-over-year
Nov 17 22:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, evoorhees would have ended up spending 4k bitcoins in handling the entire process.
Nov 17 22:06:06 *	mircea_popescu pats self on back.
Nov 17 22:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	whoever the fuck thought btc shares should have voting power.
Nov 17 22:08:19 <smickles>	;;calc 5000 / 100000000
Nov 17 22:08:19 <gribble>	5e-05
Nov 17 22:10:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker s.dice
Nov 17 22:10:16 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Nov 17 22:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Nov 17 22:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00339944 / 0.00339944 / 0.00339944 (5000 shares, 17.00 BTC), 30day: 0.00180002 / 0.00332998 / 0.0034 (1005363 shares, 3,347.84 BTC)
Nov 17 22:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 5000 / 100000000/0.00332998
Nov 17 22:10:34 <gribble>	0.0150151051958
Nov 17 22:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	1.5%
Nov 17 22:10:47 <smickles>	shit, thats' ... i was about to say
Nov 17 22:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	pretty significant.
Nov 17 22:11:35 <smickles>	looks like my accidentally buying 50 btc worth of shares will pay off
Nov 17 22:13:19 <smickles>	{just kidding}
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Nov 17 22:24:45 <pigeons>	oh hey mircea_popescu i know you don't go to the playground anymore, but they mentioned just now in -otc that black lotus ddos mitigation is accepting btc, and forbes is starting to pump them for an ip
Nov 17 22:24:52 <pigeons>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2012/09/06/can-black-lotus-break-through-its-glass-ceiling/2/
Nov 17 22:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool.
Nov 17 22:25:11 <pigeons>	i want another ticker symbol on mpex, at least for when giga goes away
Nov 17 22:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	(and yes i lolled at the time glbse was protected by cloudflare)
Nov 17 22:25:43 <pigeons>	:)
Nov 17 22:26:09 <mircea_popescu>	well, but anyway, do they want to list on mpex or what ?
Nov 17 22:26:27 <pigeons>	i'm just giving your pr chick a lead
Nov 17 22:26:43 <pigeons>	i'm sure with her people skills they will sign right up :)
Nov 17 22:26:50 <mircea_popescu>	asshat :D
Nov 17 22:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	is any of their actual people around tho ?
Nov 17 22:27:10 <pigeons>	i just heard about them
Nov 17 22:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol k.
Nov 17 22:28:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/11/17/anonymous-takes-down-countless-israeli-sites-wipes-databases-leaks-emails-addresses-and-passwords/
Nov 17 22:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, israel sites suck worse than bitcoin sites.
Nov 17 22:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	also, anonymous are fuckwits. defending palestine wtf.
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Nov 17 22:33:41 <pigeons>	oh BL are also using bitpay like wordpress. you need to list bitpay
Nov 17 22:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	ya, but i think they're tempted to try listing for fiat.
Nov 17 22:35:05 <pigeons>	well i know someone at bfl you can talk to...
Nov 17 22:35:16 <pigeons>	ok enough, i'll be here all week
Nov 17 22:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 17 22:36:18 <mircea_popescu>	is inaba even AT bfl ?
Nov 17 22:36:23 <mircea_popescu>	i thought they just hired a forum guy
Nov 17 22:39:35 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin-2/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/
Nov 17 22:39:38 <smickles>	bwahahah!
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Nov 17 22:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol the blog bug, it's growing
Nov 17 22:41:12 <pigeons>	waiting for the S.DICE trades to come streaming in
Nov 17 22:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	make your links active, tho, and use something like WP-Footnotes for footnotes
Nov 17 22:41:40 <smickles>	pigeons: because I have a massive   readership
Nov 17 22:41:56 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: ah, right
Nov 17 22:42:02 <pigeons>	yes you should be careful not to manipulate the market with your clout
Nov 17 22:42:04 <smickles>	howto footnote....
Nov 17 22:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	im off. gl all!
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Nov 17 23:04:27 <smickles>	I made the url nicer
Nov 17 23:04:28 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/
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Nov 18 00:24:00 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone interested in some asic-mining shares?
Nov 18 00:24:10 <Doffx>	I figured out the Multiarch problem Azelphur
Nov 18 00:24:21 <Doffx>	No thanks Chaang-Noi!
Nov 18 00:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.0005 = 4.8 BTC [-]
Nov 18 00:25:33 <Chaang-Noi>	someone might, im on the board so there should not be an issue with moving the stock
Nov 18 00:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6728 @ 0.00049987 = 3.3631 BTC [-]
Nov 18 00:34:19 <Doffx>	Wasn’t suggesting anything was wrong, I just didn’t want it :)
Nov 18 00:39:23 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Nov 18 00:39:36 <Chaang-Noi>	fucking nefario....
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Nov 18 00:39:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet its worth double what i paid for it.. but cuz his fail i cant even get what i paid for it...
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Nov 18 01:39:22 <Chaang-Noi>	whats the chan for the bitcoin quotes again, mind went blak
Nov 18 01:42:21 <pigeons>	oh i thought you meant like bash.org style quotes and i was like cool
Nov 18 01:42:25 <pigeons>	#bitcoin-market
Nov 18 01:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13828 @ 0.00050004 = 6.9146 BTC [+]
Nov 18 01:48:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.0005001 = 5.101 BTC [+]
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Nov 18 02:54:22 <lucidlepidoptera>	New bitcoin service startup, please take a look! https://btcjam.com/listings/584
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Nov 18 03:16:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00050018 = 3.5013 BTC [+]
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Nov 18 03:27:48 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks pigeons :)
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Nov 18 03:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00050029 = 12.4072 BTC [+]
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Nov 18 04:29:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00050029 = 3.0017 BTC [+]
Nov 18 04:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00050057 = 3.3038 BTC [+]
Nov 18 04:29:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31826 @ 0.00050064 = 15.9334 BTC [+]
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Nov 18 04:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11274 @ 0.00050064 = 5.6442 BTC [+]
Nov 18 04:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13826 @ 0.00050077 = 6.9236 BTC [+]
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Nov 18 06:25:40 <jurov>	someone should start a fund to pry the database from nef's hands... by hacking, social engineering, or whatever
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Nov 18 06:38:19 <Garr255>	jurov, we should start a bounty for it
Nov 18 06:46:43 <jurov>	yea, that's the right word
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Nov 18 07:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	"This post is a piece of sheer brilliance. A tour de force. Perfect clarity, insightful, no holds barred…priceless."
Nov 18 07:30:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16878 @ 0.0005007 = 8.4508 BTC [-]
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Nov 18 08:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.88287601 = 882.876 BTC [-]
Nov 18 08:12:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.78123286 = 781.2329 BTC [-]
Nov 18 08:12:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.68079643 = 680.7964 BTC [-]
Nov 18 08:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.48605987 = 486.0599 BTC [-]
Nov 18 08:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1000 @ 0.58212876 = 582.1288 BTC [-]
Nov 18 08:13:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.39378654 = 393.7865 BTC [-]
Nov 18 08:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpoweder http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/in-re-philosophy-freedom-of-scientific-information/
Nov 18 08:41:48 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Nov 18 08:55:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10072 @ 0.0005007 = 5.0431 BTC [-]
Nov 18 08:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23988 @ 0.00050077 = 12.0125 BTC [+]
Nov 18 08:56:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3890 @ 0.00050089 = 1.9485 BTC [+]
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Nov 18 09:29:30 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Nov 18 09:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	eya.
Nov 18 09:32:38 <kakobrekla>	did i miss any drama?
Nov 18 09:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	notrly.
Nov 18 09:37:02 <kakobrekla>	dammit :(
Nov 18 09:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you were on vacation
Nov 18 09:42:17 <kakobrekla>	came back just now, made it a little shorter.
Nov 18 09:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Nov 18 09:44:33 <kakobrekla>	vacations is just blowing money.
Nov 18 09:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha i see
Nov 18 09:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	well, bitcoin drama stocks are running real low
Nov 18 09:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	watch price drop soon
Nov 18 09:45:05 <kakobrekla>	:D
Nov 18 09:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134739086022.jpg << proper vacation
Nov 18 09:46:31 <kakobrekla>	why is this pic from the back?
Nov 18 09:46:37 <kakobrekla>	you need to paste one from the front.
Nov 18 09:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	it is from the front...
Nov 18 09:46:50 <kakobrekla>	ITS NOT
Nov 18 09:46:53 <kakobrekla>	:p
Nov 18 09:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 18 09:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135318434986.jpg
Nov 18 09:47:18 <kakobrekla>	thats right.
Nov 18 09:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7860 @ 0.00050089 = 3.937 BTC [+]
Nov 18 09:53:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20562 @ 0.00050094 = 10.3003 BTC [+]
Nov 18 09:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21028 @ 0.000501 = 10.535 BTC [+]
Nov 18 09:57:31 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: which drama do you expect to put pressure on the price?
Nov 18 09:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	something good
Nov 18 09:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	like... if bfl accused some compertitor that it broke into their lab and stole their pringles
Nov 18 09:58:15 <FabianB>	lol
Nov 18 09:59:49 <mircea_popescu>	or if mtgox accidentally cc'd the entire userbase
Nov 18 09:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	o no wait, that's already done.
Nov 18 10:00:13 <FabianB>	hehe, so why do you expect something like that now?
Nov 18 10:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	force of habit i guess
Nov 18 10:00:57 <FabianB>	something like that happens all the time it seems, but hard to predict, just like price changes
Nov 18 10:01:04 <FabianB>	thought you had some insider info ;)
Nov 18 10:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	sadly i do not
Nov 18 10:04:34 <mircea_popescu>	incidentalyl, this is moderately interesting http://irdial.com/blogdial/?p=3445
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Nov 18 10:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13672 @ 0.000501 = 6.8497 BTC [+]
Nov 18 10:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6928 @ 0.000501 = 3.4709 BTC [+]
Nov 18 10:48:36 <JWU42>	I see usagi is back
Nov 18 10:48:58 <JWU42>	or - has been I suppose
Nov 18 10:49:07 <JWU42>	do't read forums or IRC much anymore
Nov 18 10:49:39 <kakobrekla>	hi JWU42, welcome back from the dead :p
Nov 18 10:49:50 <JWU42>	nice to be back - all well?
Nov 18 10:49:59 <kakobrekla>	give or take. :)
Nov 18 10:50:14 <kakobrekla>	you still hashin away?
Nov 18 10:50:29 <JWU42>	short of giving away far too mcuh BTC to shithead cammers like P and Nef
Nov 18 10:50:38 <JWU42>	yep - 38 Gh/s +/-
Nov 18 10:50:48 <kakobrekla>	aha
Nov 18 10:50:53 <kakobrekla>	did you opt for an upgrade or no?
Nov 18 10:51:08 <JWU42>	yeah - thankfully i did take those BTC from my P account
Nov 18 10:51:12 <kakobrekla>	;>
Nov 18 10:51:15 <JWU42>	so not all lost
Nov 18 10:51:21 <kakobrekla>	if bfl delivers ;)
Nov 18 10:51:25 <JWU42>	heh
Nov 18 10:51:33 <JWU42>	I am not worried about that frankly
Nov 18 10:51:47 <kakobrekla>	what calmed you down?
Nov 18 10:51:57 <JWU42>	but like the single - they said October it ended up being February
Nov 18 10:52:07 <JWU42>	ASIC might be the same
Nov 18 10:52:12 <kakobrekla>	might??
Nov 18 10:52:17 <kakobrekla>	arent they 'late' as we speak
Nov 18 10:52:22 <JWU42>	yep
Nov 18 10:52:49 <kakobrekla>	and then josh goes preaching to mp
Nov 18 10:52:52 <kakobrekla>	what a jackass.
Nov 18 10:52:58 <JWU42>	I felt the odds of them hitting October were < 1%
Nov 18 10:53:08 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 18 10:53:21 <EskimoBob>	damn, why isn't there a backup available from Securities forum before this usagi the ass-hat deleted all his posts.
Nov 18 10:53:32 <JWU42>	Not sure what Josh said to MP - but he and MP are both strong personalities - not suprising they clash from time to time
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Nov 18 10:53:43 <kakobrekla>	build something like 4chan archive for bitcointalke EskimoBob :)
Nov 18 10:54:12 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: out of what? Snow? :)
Nov 18 10:54:22 <EskimoBob>	I am not a programmer
Nov 18 10:54:22 <temp_kluge>	No guruvan today? Could someone tell him to unblock me on the forum when he comes around? ;)
Nov 18 10:54:34 <kakobrekla>	you can hire one.
Nov 18 10:54:36 <kakobrekla>	:p
Nov 18 10:54:54 <EskimoBob>	guruvan? The Trendons shill
Nov 18 10:55:05 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Nov 18 10:55:22 <temp_kluge>	Idunno. I just know I can't send him PMs and he did a BDK->BDK.BND exchange a while ago but hasn't filed a claim, yet.
Nov 18 10:55:35 <kakobrekla>	erryone is fuckin milky shill puppet these days.
Nov 18 10:55:56 <EskimoBob>	same fuck who uses //// or something like that as a username in btst channel?
Nov 18 10:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	JWU42 post-btcfailure depression ?
Nov 18 10:56:27 <kakobrekla>	EskimoBob /// is imsaguy
Nov 18 10:56:33 <EskimoBob>	OK, sorry
Nov 18 10:56:33 <JWU42>	I am well passed that now MP - but was not fun for a while
Nov 18 10:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	well good to hear
Nov 18 10:56:47 <JWU42>	self induced though - so just disappointed in myself
Nov 18 10:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	but tbh i didn't think they can make october either.
Nov 18 10:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	don't be too harsh, it's a learning process.
Nov 18 10:57:04 <temp_kluge>	(oh - then thanks /// - I did get what you sent on the 14th. Tried calling a week or two ago)
Nov 18 10:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	most traders worth their salt in the city blew a LOT more than the dollar equiv of a few k btc.
Nov 18 10:57:40 <EskimoBob>	who cares what others did :)
Nov 18 10:57:51 <kakobrekla>	temp_kluge who are you talking to?
Nov 18 10:57:59 <kakobrekla>	ah
Nov 18 10:58:02 <temp_kluge>	to ///
Nov 18 10:58:06 <kakobrekla>	imsa is here
Nov 18 10:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	you need the [s
Nov 18 10:58:08 <kakobrekla>	ya
Nov 18 10:58:10 <kakobrekla>	[\\\]
Nov 18 10:58:11 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] like that.
Nov 18 10:58:12 <kakobrekla>	like this.
Nov 18 10:58:13 <kakobrekla>	lol
Nov 18 10:58:14 <temp_kluge>	oh - I mean \\\
Nov 18 10:58:24 <kakobrekla>	and the square brackets
Nov 18 10:58:28 <kakobrekla>	and milk.
Nov 18 10:58:31 <EskimoBob>	use  [\\\]
Nov 18 10:59:00 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob kakobrekla has a point. someoneshould archive btctalk
Nov 18 10:59:02 <temp_kluge>	I pm'd. Not used to web client, but normal clients refuse to connect to Freenode anymore. Using mobile tether for Internet.
Nov 18 11:04:06 <temp_kluge>	Someone come up with a Bitcoin-like decentralized solution for asset issuance/trading, yet?
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Nov 18 11:18:08 <smickles>	colored coins seem to be proof-of-worky
Nov 18 11:18:36 <smickles>	and I think i recall one issure switching to them
Nov 18 11:18:53 <EskimoBob>	btctalk archive is nice but lots of important stuff is missing by now.
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Nov 18 11:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	well... it'd be for the future obviously
Nov 18 11:19:50 <mircea_popescu>	smickles the big problem, of course, being that with no gatekeepers it'll be glbse v2.0
Nov 18 11:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/h1GZG.gif
Nov 18 11:21:40 <smickles>	it has that risk and likelyhood, certainly
Nov 18 11:21:56 <smickles>	hopefully there are some diamonds in the rough
Nov 18 11:23:03 <smickles>	or
Nov 18 11:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	ya but... disaster of commons.
Nov 18 11:23:42 <EskimoBob>	if you have loads of hdd space and access to unlimited bandwidth, even wget  can build a archive of bitcointalk.
Nov 18 11:23:50 <smickles>	hopefully, if it becomes popular, there will be a gatekeeper-cuirator sort out there
Nov 18 11:24:19 <mircea_popescu>	how'd it be set ?
Nov 18 11:25:01 <smickles>	sort've like the BBB in 'merica
Nov 18 11:25:09 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla did you say milk ? http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135325577648.jpg
Nov 18 11:25:17 <smickles>	a list of known vetted businesses
Nov 18 11:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	smickles look at what happens on the threads where scams are called out : a few shils yell loudly
Nov 18 11:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	"average people" aren't interested to participate.
Nov 18 11:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	as a result a fake sort of public agreement is created, for those foolish enough to credit it.
Nov 18 11:28:48 <smickles>	it may be possible for a trusted elite to form who judge these things
Nov 18 11:29:35 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, it may be possible.
Nov 18 11:29:42 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 18 11:29:45 <kakobrekla>	bbl
Nov 18 11:30:01 <smickles>	well, kakobrekla just opted out of the club
Nov 18 11:30:03 <smickles>	;)
Nov 18 11:30:18 <mircea_popescu>	he's not married. you have to be married to be in the trusted elite.
Nov 18 11:30:40 <kakobrekla>	again, that can be done instantly.
Nov 18 11:30:56 *	smickles marries kakobrekla 
Nov 18 11:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Nov 18 11:31:05 <smickles>	ah, syntax ambiguity
Nov 18 11:31:13 <kakobrekla>	well not what i had in mind but i guess it could work as well
Nov 18 11:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	make sure you film the baby coming out.
Nov 18 11:31:31 <kakobrekla>	;>
Nov 18 11:32:39 <kakobrekla>	on that note, change bbl to brb.
Nov 18 11:32:41 <kakobrekla>	off i go.
Nov 18 11:32:47 <EskimoBob>	did namworld run BTC-BOND?
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Nov 18 11:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't amazingrando doing btc-bond ?
Nov 18 11:35:13 <JWU42>	that was bit-bond
Nov 18 11:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Raccoon-Playing-With-Water-Sprinkler.gif
Nov 18 11:35:22 <JWU42>	IIRC
Nov 18 11:35:25 <mircea_popescu>	o right you are
Nov 18 11:35:40 <mircea_popescu>	i think namworld ran kraken fund passthrough on glbse
Nov 18 11:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	DeathAndTaxes Posts: 8484
Nov 18 11:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	that dude wow. i want to hire him lol.
Nov 18 11:53:55 <smickles>	damn, i think that SudoGhost might have met his match
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Nov 18 11:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	btw, reminding everyone : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/
Nov 18 11:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	there's a writing contest, 120 btc total prize fund
Nov 18 11:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	4 to 6k word stories, three (four) sections.
Nov 18 11:57:52 *	smickles proceeds to write utter crap onthe chance that few enough people enter and he receives the reward by default
Nov 18 12:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 18 12:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	more than one writer's career started that way
Nov 18 12:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	(they were less frank about it at the time however)
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Nov 18 12:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 how goes ?
Nov 18 12:15:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21722 @ 0.000501 = 10.8827 BTC [+]
Nov 18 12:15:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16179 @ 0.00050102 = 8.106 BTC [+]
Nov 18 12:20:34 <thestringpuller>	mr. sickles
Nov 18 12:20:37 <thestringpuller>	errrr
Nov 18 12:20:40 <thestringpuller>	mr. smickles*
Nov 18 12:28:41 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yo?
Nov 18 12:54:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7521 @ 0.00050102 = 3.7682 BTC [+]
Nov 18 12:54:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14529 @ 0.00050103 = 7.2795 BTC [+]
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Nov 18 13:38:19 <lucidlepidoptera>	New bitcoin service startup, please take a look! https://btcjam.com/listings/584
Nov 18 13:38:23 <pigeons>	yeah Ukto's weexchange.co has started testing btc options trading
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Nov 18 13:43:13 <Lyspooner>	hello everyone.  has the idea been floated that bitpay bought all those calls on mpex?
Nov 18 13:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	haven't heard it till now.
Nov 18 13:44:19 <mircea_popescu>	have they ?
Nov 18 13:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00050038 = 2.2267 BTC [-]
Nov 18 13:56:05 <Lyspooner>	not many people can buy that many calls
Nov 18 13:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	why bitpay tho ?
Nov 18 13:56:39 <Lyspooner>	because they knew they were about to release the wordpress news
Nov 18 13:56:43 <mircea_popescu>	o
Nov 18 13:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Nov 18 13:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	you think btc went up on wp news ?
Nov 18 13:57:05 <Lyspooner>	yes
Nov 18 13:57:20 <mircea_popescu>	went up on 16th tho.
Nov 18 13:57:36 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: so what are the stats on how many people regularly backup mpex?
Nov 18 13:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i'm not keeping that close a track.
Nov 18 13:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Nov 18 13:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner o right you are, announcement on the 15th huh
Nov 18 13:59:28 <Lyspooner>	i think it is probably a coincidence
Nov 18 13:59:54 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: just curious
Nov 18 14:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner the trades are pretty old tho.
Nov 18 14:00:33 <mircea_popescu>	then again, i guess it's possible they knew on the 5th or w/e
Nov 18 14:00:34 <Lyspooner>	o when were they
Nov 18 14:00:42 <Lyspooner>	ok
Nov 18 14:01:09 <Lyspooner>	did your bot limit them to volume per strike?
Nov 18 14:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	Nov 05 12:18:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.55667391 = 556.6739 BTC [-]
Nov 18 14:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	hey, right on. the 5th
Nov 18 14:01:23 <Doffx>	;;ident doffx
Nov 18 14:01:24 <gribble>	Nick 'doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@c-76-28-215-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net', is not identified.
Nov 18 14:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	yes bot only sells 6k of any mpsic
Nov 18 14:01:39 <Doffx>	;gpg doffx
Nov 18 14:01:47 <Doffx>	;;gpg doffx
Nov 18 14:01:48 <gribble>	Error: The "GPG" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "doffx" in it.  Try "list GPG" to see the commands in the "GPG" plugin.
Nov 18 14:01:56 <Doffx>	Oops I suck at this
Nov 18 14:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	what are you trying to do ?
Nov 18 14:02:05 <Doffx>	I just want my key info
Nov 18 14:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident
Nov 18 14:02:09 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Nov 18 14:02:22 <Doffx>	Ahh I need to ident first it seems
Nov 18 14:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	well if not,
Nov 18 14:02:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated doffx
Nov 18 14:02:29 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user doffx
Nov 18 14:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	bah
Nov 18 14:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating doffx
Nov 18 14:02:38 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Doffx, rated since Sat Apr 21 13:07:28 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Doffx
Nov 18 14:03:15 <Doffx>	There is a way to see my key id ive seen smickles do it before
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Nov 18 14:04:14 <Doffx>	I got it anyhow.
Nov 18 14:04:24 <Doffx>	Too lazy to verify even though it takes 5 secs
Nov 18 14:07:56 <smickles>	Doffx: key?
Nov 18 14:08:00 <smickles>	;;gpg info smickles
Nov 18 14:08:00 <gribble>	User 'smickles', with keyid EA62D7CEB2450C3F, fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6, registered on Mon Jun 20 12:24:35 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=smickles . Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com .
Nov 18 14:08:32 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: re: those calls, didn't we calc their profit at >13usd?
Nov 18 14:08:47 <mircea_popescu>	i think.
Nov 18 14:08:54 <Doffx>	Ahh I was missing the info part, see I was close
Nov 18 14:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	was an entire set.
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Nov 18 14:11:00 <thestringpuller>	sir mircea_popescu
Nov 18 14:11:07 <thestringpuller>	teach me romanian for 100 btc
Nov 18 14:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	haha i only teach girls.
Nov 18 14:12:52 <thestringpuller>	teach me about girls for 100 btc
Nov 18 14:12:53 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 18 14:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol what do you want to know ?
Nov 18 14:14:29 <thestringpuller>	how do you approach them when you aren't a millionaire like yourself?
Nov 18 14:14:42 <mircea_popescu>	coolly.
Nov 18 14:14:45 <smickles>	by walking, usually
Nov 18 14:15:05 <smickles>	;D
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Nov 18 14:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 18 14:15:25 <kakobrekla>	if its not on the net its worthless.
Nov 18 14:15:28 <Doffx>	You dont need a million dollars to get women
Nov 18 14:15:38 <smickles>	you only need 50
Nov 18 14:16:01 <mircea_popescu>	well given that a majority of people are born poor
Nov 18 14:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	it'd seem money don't enter into it.
Nov 18 14:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	but since we're talking, i just finished a new article! http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/this-marriage-thing/
Nov 18 14:17:08 <Doffx>	Arent there like a million dating sites now anyhow? Seems like that should make it easy to hook up these days.
Nov 18 14:17:42 <Doffx>	Ive been married 12 years so dont know what dating is anymore, but before the wife I had no trouble getting women without much money.
Nov 18 14:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx dating is this thing whereby women are desperate for male attention and will literally do anything whatsoever.
Nov 18 14:18:10 <Doffx>	The women I married made about 4 times what I did and still makes double now.
Nov 18 14:18:35 <Doffx>	That sound like what I remember as well mircea_popescu.
Nov 18 14:18:40 <kakobrekla>	hm
Nov 18 14:19:02 <kakobrekla>	Furthermore no man could buy more than one woman-cow. < poligamy?
Nov 18 14:19:17 <Doffx>	Hahaha
Nov 18 14:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla well not in europe at any rate.
Nov 18 14:19:31 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Nov 18 14:19:36 <mircea_popescu>	vilest of crimes i think
Nov 18 14:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	arguably, but way up there with paricide
Nov 18 14:20:15 <kakobrekla>	it happend in yurop as well afaik
Nov 18 14:20:18 <kakobrekla>	and its still happenin
Nov 18 14:20:22 <kakobrekla>	not on a large scale
Nov 18 14:20:27 <kakobrekla>	but you cant say it does not
Nov 18 14:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	well we're discussing culture and norms not what's happening
Nov 18 14:20:51 <kakobrekla>	so you are theoretical and not practical here
Nov 18 14:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	in that sense yea
Nov 18 14:22:16 <pigeons>	i always say, "Hey bahybehy, what high school do you go to?"
Nov 18 14:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	seeing how it's the context not the message, that may even work.
Nov 18 14:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	does it ?
Nov 18 14:25:05 <pigeons>	not every time
Nov 18 14:25:28 <pigeons>	mostly
Nov 18 14:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	good enough then
Nov 18 14:33:26 <jurov>	gay movement strived once to abolish marriage completely
Nov 18 14:33:50 <jurov>	then they decided rather to embrace, extend &extinguish
Nov 18 14:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	this is like let me find the gif again
Nov 18 14:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/ujQon.gif
Nov 18 14:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	the whale of marriage dies of old age
Nov 18 14:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	not cause some birdies flop around.
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Nov 18 14:38:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: do you have any kids?
Nov 18 14:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Nov 18 14:38:51 <thestringpuller>	you would use them as child slaves if you had any
Nov 18 14:39:02 <thestringpuller>	:)
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Nov 18 14:39:35 <mircea_popescu>	i don't really intend to have any in a jurisdiction that has difficulty with the notion that they're mine to kill if it comes to it.
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Nov 18 14:42:45 <jurov>	good luck to find such a jurisdiction
Nov 18 14:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	what do i care ?
Nov 18 14:43:42 <mircea_popescu>	it's the jurisdiction's job.
Nov 18 14:44:22 <thestringpuller>	you sound like a negro mother
Nov 18 14:44:30 <jurov>	i guess some people will be enlightened by your decision to not procreate (especially if pr girl has the same opinion)
Nov 18 14:44:41 <thestringpuller>	"I brought you into this world, I can take you out of it"
Nov 18 14:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	jurov most girls i know have the same opinion.
Nov 18 14:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller you know, to this day the us won't declare that they won't use nuclear weapons. apparently it is necessary for security.
Nov 18 14:46:14 <mircea_popescu>	well.. fuck me if i see how you can educate children that know for a fact it can't come to their neck.
Nov 18 14:46:40 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, http://ist1-2.filesor.com/media/image/3/7/0/1/37010/3/f/c/8/ratingchart.jpg
Nov 18 14:48:16 <thestringpuller>	like we have any usuable nukes
Nov 18 14:48:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18421 @ 0.00050103 = 9.2295 BTC [+]
Nov 18 14:48:42 <thestringpuller>	nuclear weapons are lame
Nov 18 14:48:59 <mircea_popescu>	be that as it may, the principle stands.
Nov 18 14:49:40 <thestringpuller>	you ever play metal gear?
Nov 18 14:49:51 <thestringpuller>	that is my stance on the whole nuclear proliferation thing
Nov 18 14:50:30 <jurov>	how will one learn voluntary contract if one was educated with knife on their neck?
Nov 18 14:50:56 <jurov>	i see a bit of cognitive dissonance
Nov 18 14:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Nov 18 14:51:57 <mircea_popescu>	supposed "adults" who grew up with no actual experience of their own death typically behave like overgrown children.
Nov 18 14:52:10 <jurov>	evidence?
Nov 18 14:52:17 <thestringpuller>	america
Nov 18 14:52:36 <thestringpuller>	i mean murica
Nov 18 14:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	ya, jurov baby this is like "please write a 500 word summary of the history of the world - use examples"
Nov 18 14:53:34 <Diablo-D3>	man
Nov 18 14:53:39 <Diablo-D3>	this is why I dont work on diablominer
Nov 18 14:53:45 <Diablo-D3>	I started doing a small fix
Nov 18 14:53:50 <Diablo-D3>	I ended up writing pretty much all of it
Nov 18 14:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 18 14:54:22 <Diablo-D3>	mymindisfulloffuck.jpg
Nov 18 14:54:57 <thestringpuller>	50/50 is like the best dramedy I've seen in a decade
Nov 18 14:57:38 <jurov>	whatever. my opinion people were always like overgrown children. but there were strong expectations from around society and one had to conform
Nov 18 14:57:45 <jurov>	now no one gives a fuck
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Nov 18 14:58:24 <kakobrekla>	society = people
Nov 18 14:58:26 <kakobrekla>	people = wrong
Nov 18 14:59:18 <mircea_popescu>	jurov one still has to conform.
Nov 18 15:01:17 <jurov>	yes. just that the force is more subtle
Nov 18 15:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Nov 18 15:02:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.77867002 = 778.67 BTC [-]
Nov 18 15:02:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.88032553 = 880.3255 BTC [-]
Nov 18 15:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1000 @ 0.579474 = 579.474 BTC [-]
Nov 18 15:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.67819874 = 678.1987 BTC [-]
Nov 18 15:02:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.48333127 = 483.3313 BTC [-]
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Nov 18 15:32:59 <smickles>	updated: http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/
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Nov 18 15:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	it lost moar ?
Nov 18 15:35:25 <smickles>	a little, someone was a bit lucky (and bragging about it)
Nov 18 15:36:04 <smickles>	someone selling puts
Nov 18 15:36:26 <mircea_popescu>	i'm having some mango icecream in their honor
Nov 18 15:42:04 <kakobrekla>	fuckin jewtube
Nov 18 15:42:13 <kakobrekla>	been searching for some vid for like half an hour
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Nov 18 15:42:18 <kakobrekla>	i know its there.
Nov 18 15:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	video wants to be free
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Nov 18 15:43:34 <kakobrekla>	ill give it another 7 minutes
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Nov 18 15:51:04 <smickles>	well?
Nov 18 15:51:14 <kakobrekla>	maybe im onto something
Nov 18 15:51:18 <kakobrekla>	lol
Nov 18 15:51:28 <kakobrekla>	aha
Nov 18 15:51:39 <kakobrekla>	yay!
Nov 18 15:51:43 <kakobrekla>	its here
Nov 18 15:53:18 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8qOlDSQ_1c&feature=youtu.be&t=3m6s
Nov 18 15:53:27 <kakobrekla>	i was looking for these 6 seconds.
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Nov 18 15:53:54 <kakobrekla>	hum
Nov 18 15:53:55 <kakobrekla>	broken link
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Nov 18 15:54:28 <kakobrekla>	hm works in chrome but not opera
Nov 18 15:54:30 <kakobrekla>	whatever.
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Nov 18 16:10:44 <smickles>	diggity damn, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1343619#msg1343619
Nov 18 16:11:10 <smickles>	harsh shit for usagi trying to get back in the game
Nov 18 16:11:39 <kakobrekla>	i wasnt expecting him to get back under same handle
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Nov 18 16:13:57 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13eq5g/this_was_a_bit_unexpected_today_i_found_out_that/c73c32n
Nov 18 16:14:33 <smickles>	lol
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Nov 18 16:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	 <kakobrekla> i wasnt expecting him to get back under same handle++
Nov 18 16:36:54 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, http://www.livescience.com/22824-penis-head-fish-discovered.html
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Nov 18 16:46:40 <smickles>	well, mircea_popescu i have about 1/10th of it written, so far, not much time devoted to the writing
Nov 18 16:49:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00050146 = 15.4951 BTC [+]
Nov 18 16:50:44 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1343759#msg1343759
Nov 18 16:50:57 <smickles>	s2cm news^
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Nov 18 17:04:24 <jurov>	hm, i'm slowly abadoning hope that the glbse passthroughs will ever be resolved
Nov 18 17:05:04 <jurov>	next option for coinbr seems to buy eurorail ticket and make talks about mpex/coinbr everywhere
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Nov 18 17:05:18 <jurov>	although i'm horrible in convincing people :/
Nov 18 17:05:32 <pigeons>	maybe you need a pr girl
Nov 18 17:05:42 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 18 17:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> next option for coinbr seems to buy eurorail ticket and make talks about mpex/coinbr everywher << i like this idea
Nov 18 17:06:19 <jurov>	hehe... don't happen to have gf, and no one will do that for free
Nov 18 17:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	gf ?! i thought you swung the other way.
Nov 18 17:06:48 <jurov>	nor bf
Nov 18 17:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	a couple years ago i made a contest on my blog. people could comment with their address, get a stack of business card sized  stickers
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Nov 18 17:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	then if they sent pictures with them put up somewhere they'd get some moneyz
Nov 18 17:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	lemme see if i can dig it up
Nov 18 17:08:27 <jurov>	i was trying to be a OVB financial agent some 2yrs ago and i realized i'm really horrible at sales
Nov 18 17:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/3709.html
Nov 18 17:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	that's the thread with ppl posting pics
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Nov 18 17:15:47 <jurov>	dunno. i have talked with some of my entrepreneur friends and even got a response like "you look like typical coder, they don't do this... shouldn't you rather find a job?"
Nov 18 17:15:56 <jurov>	asshole
Nov 18 17:16:15 <jurov>	but if that's really an impression i make to ppl... :/
Nov 18 17:16:42 <mircea_popescu>	what are you trying to do exactly ?
Nov 18 17:17:54 <jurov>	to have some meaningful volume on coinbr
Nov 18 17:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	well that's not exactly something for cold calling is it ?
Nov 18 17:20:21 <jurov>	:D
Nov 18 17:20:44 <jurov>	nor distributing stickers
Nov 18 17:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	well that was for the blog obviously.
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Nov 18 17:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	but listen jurov, i think you being or not being a salesman has very little to do with it.
Nov 18 17:32:47 <mircea_popescu>	it's easy to forget what a horrible time for btc finance we're going through. in the past THREE months pirate, hasking, nefario, harnett and a dozen more idiots raped the innocent public quite raw.
Nov 18 17:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	i'd be much surprised if fifty of the few hundred/coupla k glbse "investors" are still in the market today.
Nov 18 17:33:41 <kakobrekla>	im in the market but theres not much to play on really
Nov 18 17:35:10 <jurov>	on the other hand, i raised 65BTC via btcjam already... that's much more coinbr has ever seen
Nov 18 17:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how many of those will ever get repaid.
Nov 18 17:35:36 <jurov>	so i guess at least some bitcoins are around
Nov 18 17:35:54 <kakobrekla>	at least 65 of em
Nov 18 17:36:00 <jurov>	haha
Nov 18 17:36:47 <kakobrekla>	well i have a few 100 btc players since we are talking bout it
Nov 18 17:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	jurov may also be a matter of process
Nov 18 17:37:17 <mircea_popescu>	guy lands on your site. what's the landing page ?
Nov 18 17:38:07 <jurov>	"about" text
Nov 18 17:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	make a proper register button
Nov 18 17:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	who were we discussing earlier, bitpay ?
Nov 18 17:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitpay.com/ look at their page
Nov 18 17:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	slut, bitcoin, coupla words and a large green button
Nov 18 17:39:48 <kakobrekla>	no boobs.
Nov 18 17:40:00 <mircea_popescu>	maybe upper side tops
Nov 18 17:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	no nips
Nov 18 17:40:04 <jurov>	okay, can do. but i suspect something else too. quite a number of peeps registered, but never sent anything
Nov 18 17:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Nov 18 17:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	i rarely get that.
Nov 18 17:40:37 <kakobrekla>	well i was expressing that in a sad tone. sorry it didnt come through.
Nov 18 17:41:11 <temp_kluge>	At least, the stupid-wealthy investors appear to be out. I don't think anyone will be offering me 1kBTC without even having terms established for a long while...
Nov 18 17:41:27 <kakobrekla>	lol
Nov 18 17:41:34 <mircea_popescu>	say wut ?!
Nov 18 17:42:28 <temp_kluge>	Or maybe they bought in early and everything after making back the $5k they spent to acquire 10kBTC+ was a gamble for amusement.
Nov 18 17:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	this boggles the mind. do you imagine anyone is giving you money ? why ?
Nov 18 17:43:14 <temp_kluge>	Soon after Pirate defaulted, I was offered 10kBTC "when" he returns it. No promissory note or anything. People were ridiculously trusting during Pirate's reign.
Nov 18 17:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	yes, inexplicably at some point you had credit.
Nov 18 17:43:57 <mircea_popescu>	then again, a bunch of idiots had credit at some point, through the sheer blessing of "being there".
Nov 18 17:44:02 <temp_kluge>	Now, people want to know "what's my money being used for?" "Where's the notarized promissory note?" "Where do you work?" -- you have to actually work for money. :(
Nov 18 17:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla is this a troll ?
Nov 18 17:44:50 <kakobrekla>	lol good question
Nov 18 17:45:07 <temp_kluge>	Naw.
Nov 18 17:45:14 <kakobrekla>	proove it
Nov 18 17:45:40 <temp_kluge>	I've had MPOE-PR on ignore since the second time he/she/it PMd me back in something like May.
Nov 18 17:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	well seeing how the dilemma is troll or idiot, seems hardly worth proving.
Nov 18 17:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.iwearyourshirt.com/ i wonder if something like this'd be worth doing for bitcoin
Nov 18 17:53:40 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: is there MT4 for linux?
Nov 18 17:53:52 <kakobrekla>	i dont think so
Nov 18 17:54:06 <kakobrekla>	vm is your friend
Nov 18 17:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	but whai!
Nov 18 17:55:02 <kakobrekla>	cause people are stupid.
Nov 18 17:55:11 <kakobrekla>	didnt you see that jewtube link?
Nov 18 17:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	I SAW ALL OF THEM
Nov 18 17:56:43 <mircea_popescu>	except that one!
Nov 18 17:59:46 <smickles>	;;lucky poliboobs.jpg
Nov 18 17:59:46 <gribble>	http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/
Nov 18 18:00:01 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you've lost the top spot!
Nov 18 18:00:20 <smickles>	... to the miami herald political page?
Nov 18 18:01:01 <mircea_popescu>	aww!
Nov 18 18:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;lucky poliboobs
Nov 18 18:01:13 <gribble>	http://politits.blogspot.com/
Nov 18 18:01:17 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Nov 18 18:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	a, you have to do img search
Nov 18 18:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	not plain search
Nov 18 18:02:32 <jurov>	what are obama, paul and blair doing there?
Nov 18 18:03:45 <jurov>	bin laden, bush, clinton there too.. veritable who's who
Nov 18 18:04:02 <jurov>	thatcher isn't there... suspicion confirmed
Nov 18 18:05:46 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Nov 18 18:06:22 <jurov>	nor hillary
Nov 18 18:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27290 @ 0.00050198 = 13.699 BTC [+]
Nov 18 18:22:53 <pigeons>	what a tease
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Nov 18 18:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	i still can't quite wrap my head around it, was kludge just here whining about how you have to work to get btc now ?
Nov 18 18:54:45 <pigeons>	seemed like it
Nov 18 18:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	teh interwebs be boundless in their bounty.
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Nov 18 19:14:55 <thestringpuller>	i will make a fart joke for 1 btc
Nov 18 19:14:57 <thestringpuller>	jk
Nov 18 19:15:14 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: would you invest in a film via btc?
Nov 18 19:16:55 <thestringpuller>	take dat as a no ;)
Nov 18 19:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 18 19:22:17 <mircea_popescu>	i invested in a few films, but never wihtout knowing the producers
Nov 18 19:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	and sampling the stars.
Nov 18 19:23:08 <thestringpuller>	that's so hollywood "sampling the stars"
Nov 18 19:23:17 <thestringpuller>	"I will give you the part for 10 blow jobs"
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Nov 18 19:34:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you should invest in fringe science
Nov 18 19:35:17 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ?
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Nov 18 19:39:10 <thestringpuller>	crazy futuristic science
Nov 18 19:39:12 <thestringpuller>	like time travel
Nov 18 19:39:20 <thestringpuller>	or interdimensional travelling
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Nov 18 19:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	meh.
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Nov 18 19:46:23 <thestringpuller>	science never fails
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Nov 18 19:52:53 <pigeons>	or magnets
Nov 18 20:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	<thestringpuller> "I will give you the part for 10 blow jobs" << that;s really not how it works.
Nov 18 20:02:59 <smickles>	How do they work?
Nov 18 20:03:05 <smickles>	:P
Nov 18 20:03:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's not a count issue. it's a matter of making sure the girl is personable.
Nov 18 20:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	"Other related people (smickles) are behaving quite good, and we had useful discussions over support email."
Nov 18 20:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	the man says.
Nov 18 20:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	did they manage to produce an explanation in the end ?
Nov 18 20:04:05 <smickles>	not yet
Nov 18 20:04:15 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Nov 18 20:04:16 <mircea_popescu>	why do scammers always behave in this particular manner.
Nov 18 20:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1343748#msg1343748
Nov 18 20:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	o im sorry kakobrekla, were you asking for personable girl url ?
Nov 18 20:05:21 <kakobrekla>	well now that you mentioned it...
Nov 18 20:05:33 *	mircea_popescu mumbles fine fine
Nov 18 20:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135328008984.jpg i would call this personable.
Nov 18 20:06:35 <kakobrekla>	i would not disagree.
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Nov 18 20:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	hallo dedis18
Nov 18 20:07:23 <smickles>	How am I considering that article of clothing a skirt?
Nov 18 20:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	what else is it, a hat ?
Nov 18 20:08:01 <smickles>	Maybe it's just a headband, and she's wearing it wrong
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Nov 18 20:08:13 <mircea_popescu>	any belt wider than two inches made of textile material counts as a skirt if around the waist.
Nov 18 20:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	rule #34857-F
Nov 18 20:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	btw smickles, the thing about blogging is that you always suck at first
Nov 18 20:14:24 <mircea_popescu>	but if you manage to stick with it for a few years, writing daily or so, you'll notice impressive improvement.
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Nov 18 20:16:00 <kakobrekla>	that last line holds true for most of stuff
Nov 18 20:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	sex ?
Nov 18 20:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	it does hold true for oral and anal, if you're a girl. anal especially.
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Nov 18 20:29:15 <thestringpuller>	mr. smickles
Nov 18 20:29:54 <smickles>	mr. thrulipsgentler
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Nov 18 20:49:06 <pigeons>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees_accused_of_possessing_Casio_watches
Nov 18 20:50:09 <thestringpuller>	mr. lickssme
Nov 18 20:50:25 <thestringpuller>	mr. slicksem
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Nov 18 20:57:59 <smickles>	heh, thestringpuller i didn't mean to put you off with that anagram
Nov 18 20:58:20 <smickles>	:P
Nov 18 20:58:23 <smickles>	;)
Nov 18 20:59:17 <smickles>	Milksecs
Nov 18 20:59:31 <smickles>	'cause it sounds like milk sex
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Nov 18 21:01:03 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Nov 18 21:01:06 <thestringpuller>	you funny guy
Nov 18 21:01:15 <thestringpuller>	i was trying to kill time until dexter came on
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Nov 18 21:03:48 <thestringpuller>	WOOO LIVE TV
Nov 18 21:03:54 <thestringpuller>	brb
Nov 18 21:13:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6104 @ 0.00050198 = 3.0641 BTC [+]
Nov 18 21:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7726 @ 0.00050201 = 3.8785 BTC [+]
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Nov 18 21:55:52 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: did bitvps stop issuing monthly reports?
Nov 18 21:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik ?
Nov 18 21:57:43 <smickles>	their website stop at july, the listing on mpex says that they may also be roported on bitcointalk, but i can't find them
Nov 18 21:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Nov 18 21:58:14 <mircea_popescu>	better ask rg about this
Nov 18 21:58:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen rg
Nov 18 21:58:17 <gribble>	rg was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 12 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <rg> wow, i guess you showed us.
Nov 18 21:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	mm
Nov 18 21:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell rg <smickles> mircea_popescu: did bitvps stop issuing monthly reports?
Nov 18 21:58:32 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Nov 18 21:58:37 <smickles>	i pm'd him and grubles
Nov 18 21:59:40 <smickles>	the've kept up on dividends tho
Nov 18 22:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	any answer ?
Nov 18 22:01:07 <smickles>	not yet, it's only been a couple of hours or so
Nov 18 22:02:03 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
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Nov 19 00:05:37 <smickles>	;;view
Nov 19 00:05:37 <gribble>	#11746 Sat Nov 17 17:08:46 2012 smickles SELL 900.0 Trilema Credits @ 0.1 BTC (None)
Nov 19 00:05:42 <smickles>	^for serious
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Nov 19 00:07:13 <smickles>	man, the robots love my blog
Nov 19 00:07:34 <smickles>	they've visited over 200 times in just a couple of days
Nov 19 00:10:55 <smickles>	and when do we have to stop suffering posts like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126617.msg1344102#msg1344102
Nov 19 00:11:19 <smickles>	" I'd say we got 2 to 4 months tops to do something about the 21 million bit coin cap"
Nov 19 00:14:35 <smickles>	oh
Nov 19 00:14:42 <smickles>	s/have to/get to/
Nov 19 00:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	 So I've decided to get into mining with a couple of decent laptops
Nov 19 00:16:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol /thread
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Nov 19 00:19:48 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126630.msg1344347#msg1344347
Nov 19 00:19:50 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: ^
Nov 19 00:19:53 <smickles>	damn
Nov 19 00:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	wtf ?! that actually works ?
Nov 19 00:20:42 <smickles>	*disclaimer, i'v not, at all, looked into the authenticity of those claims
Nov 19 00:20:59 <smickles>	wild
Nov 19 00:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	afaik stuff only propagates if it's positive
Nov 19 00:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	"We will never end poverty if we don't tackle climate change. It is one of the single biggest challenges to social justice today," Kim told reporters on a conference call on Friday.
Nov 19 00:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	jesus fuck ?
Nov 19 00:21:55 <smickles>	well, kim is a dumbass
Nov 19 00:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	who put those fuckwits there. i don't want to end poverty and i piss on social justice omg wtf
Nov 19 00:22:06 <smickles>	who is kim?
Nov 19 00:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	some korean i guess
Nov 19 00:22:15 <smickles>	can i short kim?
Nov 19 00:22:37 <smickles>	actually...
Nov 19 00:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, but if you shoot kim...
Nov 19 00:22:47 <smickles>	can I pump and dump kim :)
Nov 19 00:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. kim is the president of the world bank
Nov 19 00:23:01 <smickles>	:o
Nov 19 00:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	which i dunno how the fuck he got
Nov 19 00:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/18/world-bank-climate-change-report_n_2156082.html sauce
Nov 19 00:23:14 <smickles>	I guess i am shorting kim
Nov 19 00:23:48 <smickles>	ya know
Nov 19 00:23:58 <smickles>	there is one surefire way to end poverty
Nov 19 00:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	As the first scientist to head the World Bank, Kim has pointed to "unequivocal" scientific evidence for man-made climate change to urge countries to do more.
Nov 19 00:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	Kim said 97 percent of scientists agree on the reality of climate change.
Nov 19 00:24:17 <smickles>	ignore climate change, bake the planet, kill all humans
Nov 19 00:24:23 <mircea_popescu>	dude, 97% of ppl called "scientist" in the media are monkeys.
Nov 19 00:24:33 <mircea_popescu>	smickles known as the poincarre argument.
Nov 19 00:25:03 <mircea_popescu>	"the end of human suffering can never be a policy goal because the easiest way to achieve it is to just kill everyone"
Nov 19 00:25:33 <smickles>	woah, man, i'm a bit drunk for that right nao
Nov 19 00:25:56 <smickles>	call it the skynet argument
Nov 19 00:25:56 <Namjies>	So I get it the common good interest fews...
Nov 19 00:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies there is no "common good" other than in the populist discourse.
Nov 19 00:26:17 <smickles>	;;ident Namjies
Nov 19 00:26:17 <gribble>	Nick 'Namjies', with hostmask 'Namjies!~BTC-Minin@modemcable065.181-83-70.mc.videotron.ca', is identified as user Namjies, with GPG key id F2758D83EEEDE453, key fingerprint F12DE6B4E1EF26F5768BE918F2758D83EEEDE453, and bitcoin address 1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk
Nov 19 00:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	anyone speaking to the common good is a fraud.
Nov 19 00:26:28 <smickles>	no wai, using your otc name?
Nov 19 00:26:57 <mircea_popescu>	i like the videotron.ca part, he's like a hardcore gamer :D
Nov 19 00:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	smickles : poincarre gets precedence cause of being french, president and 1800s
Nov 19 00:27:59 <smickles>	I saw that when we tried to play monopoly, thought it was bad ass just from the form of it (aesthetics)
Nov 19 00:28:14 <Namjies>	I'm not saying what many you hear ain't bollocks, especially when it comes to "facts" about the environments, people's condition, etc. being easy to check out as false.
Nov 19 00:29:04 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies how about forcing everyone to move to TOXIC mercury-based lighting under the pretext of "helping the environment"
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Nov 19 00:29:14 <mircea_popescu>	tho it doesn't help it, it just makes poor countries unable to export lightbulbs
Nov 19 00:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	which were exactly at their technological level, a good stepping stone to development
Nov 19 00:29:51 <smickles>	at least it's cheaper if they last as long as they claim for the end user
Nov 19 00:30:04 <mircea_popescu>	"scientists agree". fuck them, 97% of them have nothing to do with science, they just agree and get funding and agree more and get more funding.
Nov 19 00:30:07 <smickles>	(throw a couple of commas in there will you)
Nov 19 00:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	smickles except they don't last longer.
Nov 19 00:30:14 <Namjies>	Yeah, what I'm saying, not do that if you don't believe it's going to help.
Nov 19 00:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	they last less, and then they create piles of mercury.
Nov 19 00:30:35 <pigeons>	plus the light from those toxic cfl things is awful and depressing
Nov 19 00:30:43 <pigeons>	and yellowish
Nov 19 00:30:52 <smickles>	I can use mercury tho
Nov 19 00:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	im still using fillamets
Nov 19 00:30:56 <smickles>	at least for fun
Nov 19 00:30:57 <Namjies>	I'm talking merely about avoiding of negatively impacting people in general when you can and are aware of it.
Nov 19 00:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	and bought massive stocks
Nov 19 00:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies ya well, nobody's arguing about that.
Nov 19 00:31:24 <pigeons>	yeah i stocked up on good lightbulbs, i learned my lesson, made a killing on regular flow toliets
Nov 19 00:31:28 <Namjies>	Well [00:21] <mircea_popescu> who put those fuckwits there. i don't want to end poverty and i piss on social justice omg wtf
Nov 19 00:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons srsly ?
Nov 19 00:31:33 <smickles>	fuckit, screw this planet as hard as we can, we need to get off this rock anyway
Nov 19 00:31:38 <Namjies>	Could be misinterpreted
Nov 19 00:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i guess so. but i don't want to hurt them either, i just don't want to end poverty. that's all.
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Nov 19 00:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	i am against all action when that action doesn't have a moral and legitimate profit reason.
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Nov 19 00:32:21 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: yes, where i live about 15 years ago they mandated "low flow" toliets that take 2 flushes, and the old ones are selling for several hundred dollar premiums and i've sold out
Nov 19 00:32:28 <Namjies>	not the fuckwits, they might well be. Both side tend to exaggerate and pull statistics out of nowhere.
Nov 19 00:32:33 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons heh. sounds like ny.
Nov 19 00:32:34 <smickles>	fear of poverty must motivate some good that wouldn't have otherwise arisin
Nov 19 00:32:46 <pigeons>	north carolina
Nov 19 00:32:53 <smickles>	fuck NC
Nov 19 00:33:02 <smickles>	it was a bad place to live
Nov 19 00:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much the only thing i like about romania is that none of this shit took any hold (yet)
Nov 19 00:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	there's a ban on fillament lightbulbs ? they're sold in the stores. fuck you, eu.
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Nov 19 00:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	there was a ban on exporting gas to serbia ?
Nov 19 00:33:49 <mircea_popescu>	everyone was doing daily trips there to sell gas.
Nov 19 00:33:55 <smickles>	that's ballzy
Nov 19 00:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Nov 19 00:34:11 <pigeons>	yeah in usa regular lightbulbs can't be sold starting some date in the future, i dont know if thats changed or what
Nov 19 00:34:25 <Namjies>	there's a ban on fillament lightbulbs in Europe?
Nov 19 00:34:27 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: natural gas?
Nov 19 00:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Nov 19 00:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	smickles no, gasoline. car fuel.
Nov 19 00:34:42 <smickles>	oh, nvm then
Nov 19 00:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	funny enough tho, diesel was at a premium (cause of tanks)
Nov 19 00:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	but most people moved gas.
Nov 19 00:35:06 <Namjies>	Odd...
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Nov 19 00:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	The first types to go are non-clear (frosted) bulbs, which are off the market since September 2009. Also from September 2009 clear bulbs over 100W were made of more efficient types. This limit was moved down to lower wattages, and the efficiency levels raised by the end of 2012
Nov 19 00:36:05 <pigeons>	you mean when there is market intervention there are consequences and unintented consequences?
Nov 19 00:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	i am currently basking in the light of two 200W clear fillament lightbulbs
Nov 19 00:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	and actually, inspired by this discussion i think ima buy a few more tomorrow.
Nov 19 00:37:33 <Namjies>	Well I don't particularly like fillament lightbulbs but heck, I don't see a problem with them.
Nov 19 00:37:49 <pigeons>	bitbulb.com, coming soon to mpex
Nov 19 00:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 19 00:38:12 <mircea_popescu>	these nitwits.
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Nov 19 00:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	every time the girl blasts some dubious operation to hell there's a string of bs "attacks" on polimedia
Nov 19 00:38:45 <mircea_popescu>	like, automated acunetix or w/e it's called that thing
Nov 19 00:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	./././././././././. etc
Nov 19 00:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	can't the script kiddies just get together, compare notes and engage in bro-love instead ?
Nov 19 00:39:45 <pigeons>	yeah i'm sure the same scan will be looking for cold fusion and asp as well
Nov 19 00:39:54 <mircea_popescu>	it is. and for windows ini
Nov 19 00:40:01 <pigeons>	so subtle
Nov 19 00:40:03 <mod6>	lol cfm ftw
Nov 19 00:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	and patently retarded shit like cat passwd
Nov 19 00:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	5.39.68.159 - - [18/Nov/2012:15:42:40 -0500] "GET
Nov 19 00:41:19 <mircea_popescu>	 /fain/comercial/..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2fetc%2fpasswd
Nov 19 00:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	he literally has a literal etc in there.
Nov 19 00:41:59 <mod6>	clearly a bromosexual
Nov 19 00:42:39 <Namjies>	You want misfits that have found no better way to spend their lonely time than looking to damage web properties to SOCIALIZE and SHARE thing?
Nov 19 00:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i bet you it's butthurt forum people who figure in their own mind they know shit.
Nov 19 00:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	AND WILL PROVE IT TO ME
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Nov 19 00:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	the only irritating part is that after they fail they don't consequently get assraped by a velociraptor.
Nov 19 00:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	this lack of dire consequences for failure is getting on my nerves.
Nov 19 00:43:57 <Namjies>	No, but seriously, they have to share, or they wouldn't have got their hands on their scripts in the first place.
Nov 19 00:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	well then can't they share that the stuff dun work ?
Nov 19 00:44:33 <pigeons>	no that isnt important to them, they just add the failures to things to try
Nov 19 00:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	typical 16yo dickery, except 20 years ago they were telling stories about the women they fucked.
Nov 19 00:44:43 <Namjies>	It apparently works sometimes.
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Nov 19 00:44:57 <Namjies>	Just not so well when you want to attack a specific server.
Nov 19 00:45:03 <pigeons>	nope. worked sometimes 10 years ago
Nov 19 00:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i want the old west back. you pull your gun and miss ? you'll be missed.
Nov 19 00:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	he's right Namjies, i did a piece on it a few days ago. people were trying stuff literally patched in the 2005 edition of asp.net
Nov 19 00:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	against a linux machine.
Nov 19 00:46:37 <pigeons>	it comes about from not having to have any discretion i think. "oh i'm using some wndows botnet, who cares if i lose it". also oh i'll run a tool from someone cared so little about they made it public, and is used for people who don't care about stealth they are using it on their own servers
Nov 19 00:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	well ya, and that lack of discretion isn't born out of the complete lack of dire consequences for failure ?
Nov 19 00:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	we live in a spam culture.
Nov 19 00:47:35 <pigeons>	yeah
Nov 19 00:48:35 <mircea_popescu>	once kids realise that the worst that can happen if they say something stupid is nothing at all they can never stop yammering.
Nov 19 00:48:36 <Namjies>	If you scan at large for machines to hack, I'm sure some guy with a single website on a small machine has not updated since then...
Nov 19 00:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies im pretty sure these are directional.
Nov 19 00:49:12 <mircea_popescu>	i can tell by a few pixels and also the very particular time distribution
Nov 19 00:49:12 <pigeons>	also they scan for shit from 2001
Nov 19 00:49:45 <Namjies>	Yeah, well as I said, those scripts don't work so well when you want to attack a specific server.
Nov 19 00:50:10 <mod6>	Attack Mode: Weaksauce
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Nov 19 00:51:00 <Namjies>	But you know there's a few businesses out there that update their software every 20 years or so. An that's almost not an hyperbole.
Nov 19 00:51:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/14/article-0-140E5A33000005DC-550_964x984.jpg
Nov 19 00:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	quick quizz : what profession did Delphaline, aged 17 in the pic go into ?
Nov 19 00:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	a. world bank president
Nov 19 00:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	b. oil field worker
Nov 19 00:51:57 <mircea_popescu>	c. las vegas.
Nov 19 00:52:18 <mod6>	It blows my mind that any machine that exists on public IP space currently, and is in a legacy OS setup wouldn't already be compromised.
Nov 19 00:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 i have one that runs sarge.
Nov 19 00:53:15 <mircea_popescu>	why'd it be compromised ?
Nov 19 00:53:59 <dub>	a lot of it will be old bots cut off from the c&c but still scanning
Nov 19 00:54:38 <mircea_popescu>	who pays the power bill?
Nov 19 00:56:04 <dub>	why wouldnt the bill be paid? server is still sitting there doing its job, its just doing another job too
Nov 19 00:56:22 <dub>	lost count of how many times I've heard 'we got a security expert in to fix it'
Nov 19 00:56:38 <dub>	who either did nothign at all or patched the hole but left the infection
Nov 19 00:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	that may be it yeah.
Nov 19 00:57:06 <mircea_popescu>	reminds me of the fallout2 intro.
Nov 19 00:57:14 <Namjies>	eheh, old bots, forgotten by their hacker and still in use by the business. That little unkown process just sending odd requests outside.
Nov 19 00:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	their souls, mingled into the background radiation...
Nov 19 00:57:16 <mod6>	haha crap. my laptop batter died -- shutting downmy box ...
Nov 19 00:57:19 <mod6>	one sec.
Nov 19 00:57:22 <Namjies>	Fallout 2!
Nov 19 00:57:23 <dub>	I had a box get botted many moons ago via ssh bf and a retarded user
Nov 19 00:57:40 <dub>	imbarassingly I only noticed because I had too many connections to undernet suddenly
Nov 19 00:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 19 00:57:59 <mircea_popescu>	the soul of discretion.
Nov 19 00:58:05 <Namjies>	I have to play that game again.
Nov 19 00:58:16 <dub>	tracked it to some romanians
Nov 19 00:58:17 <mod6>	oh anyway, just saying how there are so many random attacks from bots etc. many winders machines get pwned if not updated on the regular
Nov 19 00:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies fallout 1/2 rocked. pity they fucked the franchise later.
Nov 19 00:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	dub shocking.
Nov 19 00:58:31 <dub>	i know
Nov 19 00:58:53 <Namjies>	I had some fun with the Fallout Tactics one but really not the same thing.
Nov 19 00:59:00 <mircea_popescu>	not at all.
Nov 19 00:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	was more like a civ
Nov 19 00:59:18 <mircea_popescu>	you ever played the xcom thing ? was before fallout
Nov 19 00:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	shooting alien invaders.
Nov 19 00:59:43 <Namjies>	Nope
Nov 19 01:00:07 <mod6>	bbs
Nov 19 01:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO:_Enemy_Unknown
Nov 19 01:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	was back in the early 90s sometime
Nov 19 01:00:33 <dub>	xcom: enemy unknown, yeah they've jsut done a new one
Nov 19 01:00:41 <dub>	one of the best games ever
Nov 19 01:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't much like the 2
Nov 19 01:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	and stopped trying after that.
Nov 19 01:03:02 <Namjies>	Early 90s? I mostly know of NES games
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Nov 19 01:12:00 <mod6>	well folks im out too, gn :]
Nov 19 01:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00050201 = 6.5763 BTC [+]
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Nov 19 02:56:21 <Diablo-D3>	fuck yeah
Nov 19 02:56:26 <Diablo-D3>	my partial rewrite of dm seems to function
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Nov 19 02:57:34 <pigeons>	does it do stratum?
Nov 19 02:57:41 <Diablo-D3>	no, but it can now
Nov 19 02:57:55 <Diablo-D3>	NetworkState is now an abstract class
Nov 19 02:58:33 <Diablo-D3>	the only concrete implementation atm is JSONRPCNetworkState (ie, the old NetworkState code)
Nov 19 02:59:07 <Diablo-D3>	I need to move the gpu code out to its own class, then I'll be able to commit this I think
Nov 19 02:59:12 <Diablo-D3>	well, own file
Nov 19 02:59:15 <Diablo-D3>	its already its own class
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Nov 19 03:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00050201 = 4.6687 BTC [+]
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Nov 19 04:40:41 <Diablo-D3>	yay
Nov 19 04:40:51 <Diablo-D3>	Ive verified all the shit I did to DM still works
Nov 19 04:44:31 <Diablo-D3>	one file of 511 lines, one file of 73 lines, one file of 142 lines, one file of 1170 (still havent moved the gpu shit out)
Nov 19 04:44:44 <Diablo-D3>	was one file of 1795
Nov 19 04:45:25 <Diablo-D3>	1896, but headers are 17 lines, so 1845
Nov 19 04:45:46 <Diablo-D3>	so an increase of 50 lines, but I can actually navigate the source now
Nov 19 04:45:50 <Diablo-D3>	I can live with that
Nov 19 04:53:33 <jurov>	wow, that's enterprise level coding
Nov 19 04:54:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 826 @ 0.00050206 = 0.4147 BTC [+]
Nov 19 04:54:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36521 @ 0.0005021 = 18.3372 BTC [+]
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Nov 19 06:26:59 *	Guest73488 is now known as kakobrekla
Nov 19 06:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	Kongzi beta-8 is over 10,000 SLOC. Not LOC, SLOC.
Nov 19 06:27:24 <mircea_popescu>	who the hell is proud of having written MANY lines of code ?
Nov 19 06:27:45 <mircea_popescu>	if someone told me gcc is eighteen lines i'd be impressed. eighty million... sounds like windoze.
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Nov 19 06:39:04 <Diablo-D3>	10k? thats not much
Nov 19 06:39:31 <Diablo-D3>	dm is like 2k
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Nov 19 07:11:55 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdR_fHr_6Eg
Nov 19 07:14:50 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: when did this clown started to code?
Nov 19 07:15:25 <EskimoBob>	he has serious problems adding 2 numbers or getting a simple function right in spreadsheets
Nov 19 07:16:03 <EskimoBob>	now he is coding a world best web site? SolidCoin was almost as delusional as this guy
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Nov 19 07:24:14 <pigeons>	http://www.cryptoxchange.com/blog/21/crypto-x-change-suspending-trading-and-returning-client-funds
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Nov 19 07:35:52 <jurov>	great. i s'pose intersango is next.
Nov 19 07:38:39 <kakobrekla>	hm
Nov 19 07:38:49 <kakobrekla>	cryptostocks will live on or no then
Nov 19 07:44:25 <jurov>	cryptostocks seem to be linked to vircurex, not to cryptoxchange
Nov 19 07:47:30 <EskimoBob>	and here we go again. another exchange bites the dust. At least people do not get glbsed
Nov 19 07:48:03 <jurov>	that remains to be seen
Nov 19 07:48:39 <EskimoBob>	correct
Nov 19 07:49:18 <EskimoBob>	"we will be...." and everyone gets fucked
Nov 19 07:51:38 <jurov>	coincidence? http://www.northlandbitcoins.com/
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Nov 19 07:59:02 <usagi>	hai
Nov 19 07:59:28 <jurov>	hi usagi
Nov 19 07:59:50 <jurov>	dn't you plan to release these 10k of SLOC (not LOC)  open source?
Nov 19 07:59:59 <usagi>	Lol release my source code what?
Nov 19 08:00:11 <usagi>	I didn't check the kongzi thread, are people now demanding my source code?
Nov 19 08:01:15 <jurov>	just i am, cause i'm very curious, how such deadly serious business is coded
Nov 19 08:02:14 <jurov>	there must be some very enterprise-y techniques involved there
Nov 19 08:02:29 <usagi>	Well
Nov 19 08:02:33 <usagi>	There are problems, so to speak
Nov 19 08:02:50 <usagi>	LIke for example, say you are giving a multiple choice quiz. How do you choose the non-correct answers?
Nov 19 08:03:13 <usagi>	If you choose words the student hasn't seen, the answer will be obvious. It will also be obvious if the answer is a noun and there's a word like swimming in the choices
Nov 19 08:03:31 <usagi>	Also if the answer is banana and apple is one of the answers, students might answer correctly, but get it wrong on a technicality
Nov 19 08:03:34 <jurov>	i'd ask average american
Nov 19 08:03:44 <usagi>	Yes but how do you code that knowledge into a computer
Nov 19 08:04:10 <kakobrekla>	;;getrating kakobrekla
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Nov 19 08:04:20 <usagi>	Well lets see
Nov 19 08:04:31 <jurov>	you mean you have a generator of noncorrect answers?
Nov 19 08:05:05 <usagi>	Well I came up with a solution
Nov 19 08:05:23 <usagi>	See, let's say I ask you a question and you don't know the answer.. But you know that all the answers which are wrong are false
Nov 19 08:05:29 <usagi>	Then you know the answer by deduction
Nov 19 08:05:36 <usagi>	This principle informs the generator
Nov 19 08:05:41 <pigeons>	usagi what is the difference between LOC and SLOC?
Nov 19 08:05:47 <usagi>	The really mind-bending shit was in the tag tree system though
Nov 19 08:06:02 <usagi>	LOC includes whitespace and statements which break accross lines
Nov 19 08:06:13 <usagi>	and brackets
Nov 19 08:06:14 <usagi>	SLOC basically counts semicolons
Nov 19 08:06:27 <pigeons>	do you have a lot of comments usagi?
Nov 19 08:06:34 <usagi>	Yes. SLOC does not count comments
Nov 19 08:06:58 <EskimoBob>	LOL, I guess this guy has no idea wtf "process management" is and how to use it
Nov 19 08:07:04 <jurov>	dunno, this needs some clarification " you know that all the answers which are wrong are false"
Nov 19 08:07:36 <pigeons>	jurov: have you never read sherlock holmes man?
Nov 19 08:07:40 <usagi>	Stuff like this;
Nov 19 08:07:43 <usagi>	 public int getExtendedChildCountRecursor(TreeNode n) {
Nov 19 08:07:43 <usagi>	        int children = n.getChildCount();
Nov 19 08:07:43 <usagi>	        int count = children;
Nov 19 08:07:44 <usagi>	        for (int i = 0; i < children; i++) {
Nov 19 08:07:44 <usagi>	            count = count + getExtendedChildCountRecursor(n.getChildAt(i));
Nov 19 08:07:44 <usagi>	        }
Nov 19 08:07:44 <usagi>	        return count;
Nov 19 08:07:45 <usagi>	    }
Nov 19 08:07:47 <jurov>	you mean the computer can evaluate truthfulness of sentences?
Nov 19 08:07:58 <pigeons>	i am sure the Schenectady Light Opera Company is thrilled you donated 10k btc
Nov 19 08:08:04 <usagi>	jurov; No, but I came up with a system where it doesn't matter so much
Nov 19 08:09:26 <usagi>	SCLOCCOUNT says my project would cost over $300k to duplicate if you hired professional coders
Nov 19 08:09:37 <usagi>	I'd sell for $250k tho.
Nov 19 08:09:50 <jurov>	and you did it alone over a weekend, I s'pose?
Nov 19 08:10:04 <usagi>	no.. Way way back in the 90s I found a program by randy shank
Nov 19 08:10:11 <usagi>	called kongze
Nov 19 08:10:27 <usagi>	it was the most amazing program I'd ever seen, it was the forerunner of programs like anki and memosyne
Nov 19 08:11:04 <usagi>	it was for dos... Then around 2003 or 2004 I lost access to it so I started rewriting it.. something like that
Nov 19 08:13:15 <jurov>	this? http://renli.wordpress.com/kongzi/
Nov 19 08:13:37 <usagi>	Yes
Nov 19 08:13:59 <usagi>	I really should have put it on the web years ago
Nov 19 08:14:38 <pigeons>	if the professional coders duplicated it with half as many SLOC would it cost half as much?
Nov 19 08:14:44 <usagi>	Yes pigeons
Nov 19 08:14:47 <EskimoBob>	lol
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Nov 19 08:15:17 <pigeons>	will you hire me for a per line project?
Nov 19 08:15:23 <usagi>	I could see a team of pro coders doing it with maybe 20% less SLOC
Nov 19 08:15:27 <usagi>	big maybe.
Nov 19 08:15:49 <EskimoBob>	using modern tools and actual experience and knowledge of programming, it can be done for 1/10 or less
Nov 19 08:16:02 <usagi>	EskimoBob does not know what he is talking about as usual.
Nov 19 08:16:03 <EskimoBob>	" a per line project" LOL, sure.
Nov 19 08:16:49 <usagi>	What's the largest program you've ever written eb?
Nov 19 08:17:18 <usagi>	pigeons; The SLOCCOUNT program uses metrics which differ on a per-language basis
Nov 19 08:17:34 <pigeons>	ok, hire me for the most expensive language
Nov 19 08:17:48 <usagi>	What did you have in mind?
Nov 19 08:18:22 <pigeons>	let's do the same thing but with a different language. Let's try chinese or something
Nov 19 08:18:32 <usagi>	Hmm what do you mean
Nov 19 08:18:49 <usagi>	Kongzi works with any language, I use it to teach English, I use it to teach myself japanese and chinese
Nov 19 08:19:20 <usagi>	It's like anki or stackz except instead of using "facts" it uses a full dictionary and runs multiple types of quizzes and games against the dictionaries
Nov 19 08:19:23 <pigeons>	oh ok, let's do one that teaches woodworking then
Nov 19 08:20:05 <usagi>	What's the largest program you have worked on pigeons?
Nov 19 08:20:12 <EskimoBob>	did you really teach English?
Nov 19 08:20:20 <usagi>	EB I know you may find this hard to believe
Nov 19 08:20:25 <pigeons>	how much would you sell your $300,000 program for?
Nov 19 08:20:38 <usagi>	But I am really a teacher and a programmer and I really do know what I am talking about ;-)
Nov 19 08:20:50 <usagi>	pigeons; I've been working on it for years
Nov 19 08:21:18 <EskimoBob>	first grade or second grade?
Nov 19 08:21:23 <usagi>	I plan to sell it on a subscription basis eventually. But I don't really want to release the source code. Then there's the issue of content. It is incredibly time consuming to produce content
Nov 19 08:21:43 <usagi>	I hired a native japanese teacher to help me do audio and we only got a few hundred words and sentences down
Nov 19 08:22:07 <pigeons>	do those count as SLOC?
Nov 19 08:22:25 <usagi>	Now that I've seen iKnow's picture quizzes too.. I feel I must get photos. It's a lot of work. And I have plans for natural language processing, whereby the student can type in a sentence and have the computer check the grammar.
Nov 19 08:22:54 <usagi>	Pigeons no offense but you strike me as a little flaky. You keep bouncing from topic to topic and you haven't answered my question.
Nov 19 08:23:10 <pigeons>	i've worked on some big projects, but my part was quite small
Nov 19 08:23:30 <usagi>	The truth is pigeons what I really need is someone who can help me create content
Nov 19 08:24:15 <usagi>	The basic code for a system like this is not hard. The real issues with kongzi were with the tag tree system and with coding the NLP as I said.. but if you just do a basic system then you can get around most of the issues by careful content management
Nov 19 08:24:20 <pigeons>	You should add "in the cloud" to your site. It will be cooler. Learn japanese in the cloud
Nov 19 08:24:58 <usagi>	The market is actually quite large... iknow has over 50,000 people signed up to some of their courses
Nov 19 08:25:10 <EskimoBob>	you had 6
Nov 19 08:25:17 <EskimoBob>	world wide clients
Nov 19 08:25:21 <EskimoBob>	users
Nov 19 08:25:22 <usagi>	I know a couple japanese-only schools which have had close to a million lifetime customers
Nov 19 08:25:23 <EskimoBob>	what ever
Nov 19 08:25:46 <usagi>	Well given the site went up last week, isn't finished, etc... thats actually pretty good.
Nov 19 08:26:14 <EskimoBob>	6 members worldwide? yes it is
Nov 19 08:26:28 <usagi>	Ya sounds funny ehh
Nov 19 08:26:31 <pigeons>	that's great. are they paying?
Nov 19 08:26:32 <usagi>	Six members... worldwide! lol
Nov 19 08:27:14 <usagi>	Nope. Oddly enough my first customers will be people who want to learn English
Nov 19 08:27:35 <EskimoBob>	but you hardly speak it yourself
Nov 19 08:27:43 <usagi>	According to whom, EB?
Nov 19 08:27:47 <pigeons>	that's the beauty of this system Bob
Nov 19 08:27:55 <EskimoBob>	how can you teach something you have no knowledge?
Nov 19 08:28:08 <usagi>	EskimoBob go look up anki or mnemosyne or stackz
Nov 19 08:28:10 <pigeons>	you just tell it what is false, and the computer figures out the rest
Nov 19 08:28:18 <usagi>	Sersiously your out of your league on this one
Nov 19 08:28:24 <EskimoBob>	OO that's cool
Nov 19 08:28:30 <usagi>	I've used kongzi desktop to teach in the classroom for over a year
Nov 19 08:29:09 <usagi>	I will be replacing that with kongzi online... when I can do that then I'll probably start working out some kind of monthly fee structure
Nov 19 08:29:31 <usagi>	EskimoBob: Look up SRS (spaced repetition)
Nov 19 08:29:41 <usagi>	The program can be used by others and they can input whatever they want
Nov 19 08:29:56 <pigeons>	usagi: can we use the program to teach karate?
Nov 19 08:30:16 <usagi>	Kongzi online is separate from the books I am working on, which are experiments in acquisition theory, massive comprehensible input, etc.
Nov 19 08:30:16 <EskimoBob>	like you did in 2003? https://www.google.com/search?q=usagi+%22Oliver+Richman%22
Nov 19 08:30:40 <usagi>	EB, why do you keep telling people that my name is oliver richman?
Nov 19 08:30:45 <pigeons>	bob i am much more subtle
Nov 19 08:31:15 <EskimoBob>	is Serena better?
Nov 19 08:31:21 <EskimoBob>	or is it Appledog?
Nov 19 08:31:29 <usagi>	Or is it... EskimoBob?
Nov 19 08:31:45 <usagi>	Lol, who cares dude? Like you said --> I put up books I wrote which have my name on them on my website
Nov 19 08:31:56 <EskimoBob>	same shit over again https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.martial-arts/ly5cmb5i8bc/aBX3EztwQ4YJ
Nov 19 08:31:57 <usagi>	Seriously, you act as if you are doxxing me or something.. Who gives a fuck?
Nov 19 08:31:57 <pigeons>	usagi what is your first name by the way? Mine is Dan
Nov 19 08:32:01 <usagi>	You're such a bad troll lol
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Nov 19 08:32:19 <usagi>	Do you do martial arts EB?
Nov 19 08:32:34 <EskimoBob>	usagi: you are right. I am really bad troll. I am actually not even worth the "troll" name
Nov 19 08:32:45 <usagi>	Do you do martial arts EB? Or are you just talking more shit?
Nov 19 08:32:47 <usagi>	I've done martial arts for over 25 years now. I can say what I like on R.M-A.
Nov 19 08:33:04 <EskimoBob>	usagi: no i do not but I can probably shoot you down from 400 meters :)
Nov 19 08:33:08 <usagi>	Everyone on R.M-A trolls everyone else. People wrote songs about me. I wrote songs about other pepole.
Nov 19 08:33:14 <EskimoBob>	or 1 m, if you like
Nov 19 08:33:19 <usagi>	EskimoBob; Then go to alt.guns and troll there. There's a newsgroup for everyone.
Nov 19 08:33:22 <pigeons>	wait i thought you weren't oliver?
Nov 19 08:33:31 <EskimoBob>	or just kick your ass with one hand
Nov 19 08:33:36 <usagi>	I happen to be a good shot myself, but if you want to talk martial arts that's different.
Nov 19 08:33:56 <EskimoBob>	i did my study of tao with Mr Norris
Nov 19 08:34:03 <usagi>	pigeons; Wait I thought you weren't a coder?
Nov 19 08:34:31 <usagi>	EskimoBob: Good for you. Did he shoot you from 1m or 400m?
Nov 19 08:34:51 <usagi>	U can see what happened on R.M-A by looking at your own attitude here.
Nov 19 08:34:54 <pigeons>	so you post to r.m-a, and people write songs about you, but you aren't the oliver who posts there and people write songs about? which one are you?
Nov 19 08:35:07 <usagi>	You wanna talk about something, like coding.. or martial arts.. But you act like a fucking monkey
Nov 19 08:35:09 <EskimoBob>	I am a coder. I am writing a fkn cms from 2001, based on 80's code - fkn fabulous, It will be the best karate teaching page on the world
Nov 19 08:35:18 <usagi>	I don't give a shit if you want to teach woodworking or shoot someone lol
Nov 19 08:35:38 <usagi>	You're boring as fuck, you know that?
Nov 19 08:36:15 <Diablo-D3>	>80s code
Nov 19 08:36:19 <Diablo-D3>	cobol or fortran?
Nov 19 08:36:40 <usagi>	EskimoBob: What's the largest program you've ever worked on?
Nov 19 08:37:05 <usagi>	heh.
Nov 19 08:37:06 <Diablo-D3>	is it bigger or smaller than a breadbox?
Nov 19 08:37:09 <EskimoBob>	who knows memvola?
Nov 19 08:37:19 <pigeons>	i met her once or twice
Nov 19 08:37:21 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: big like a fkn house
Nov 19 08:37:30 <EskimoBob>	her?
Nov 19 08:37:33 <usagi>	I got work to do. C ya
Nov 19 08:37:41 <usagi>	Gotta make endz :>
Nov 19 08:37:46 <EskimoBob>	i hope not usagi
Nov 19 08:37:58 <Diablo-D3>	wait, why would anyone name themselves memvola?
Nov 19 08:38:04 <EskimoBob>	it is better with out wankers like you  ;)
Nov 19 08:38:18 <Diablo-D3>	thats the esperanto word for willing
Nov 19 08:38:28 <usagi>	Before I go, pigeons-- to answer your question
Nov 19 08:38:37 <usagi>	As you know I have been around for quite some time, since 1991 in fact
Nov 19 08:38:51 <EskimoBob>	usagi: we all know that by now.
Nov 19 08:38:52 <usagi>	I have so many aliases because I like to change aliases every oh 6 or 7 years. gets boring
Nov 19 08:39:03 <usagi>	No big deal. c ya round bro
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Nov 19 08:39:05 <EskimoBob>	and you have been kicked out from multiple forums
Nov 19 08:39:18 <usagi>	name one.
Nov 19 08:39:24 <Diablo-D3>	real life.
Nov 19 08:39:30 <usagi>	Been using usagi since 2001 I think tho. so yeah
Nov 19 08:39:42 <Diablo-D3>	since 2001? lol
Nov 19 08:39:47 <Diablo-D3>	Ive been Diablo-D3 since 1991.
Nov 19 08:39:48 <usagi>	iirc.. gotta go
Nov 19 08:39:56 <Diablo-D3>	I AM OLDER THAN THE INTERTUBES ITSELF
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Nov 19 08:40:15 <Diablo-D3>	BOW BEFORE MY MIGHT!
Nov 19 08:44:35 <pigeons>	usagi: were you born female?
Nov 19 08:57:11 <usagi>	back ;-)
Nov 19 08:57:12 <usagi>	So EB
Nov 19 08:57:26 <usagi>	You said I had been kicked out from multiple forums. Can you name one, or are you a slippery lying fuck?
Nov 19 08:57:42 <usagi>	pigeons; You see what I have to deal with here don't you.
Nov 19 09:03:48 <Diablo-D3>	ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: Persecution Complex
Nov 19 09:04:31 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: usagi wasnt born female, you know how I know?
Nov 19 09:04:39 <usagi>	Because this is the internet.
Nov 19 09:04:40 <Diablo-D3>	no female can resist my manlyness.
Nov 19 09:04:50 *	Diablo-D3 flexes muscles
Nov 19 09:07:06 <EskimoBob>	wtf are you blabbering usagi, you promised to leave and do what ever you do when you are not trolling bitcoin community
Nov 19 09:08:07 <usagi>	Sorry what forum was I kicked off again EB?
Nov 19 09:08:59 <usagi>	I will leave soon tho. I need to go to work soon :) I just was talking to someone c u~
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Nov 19 09:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00050218 = 12.4541 BTC [+]
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Nov 19 09:41:40 <mircea_popescu>	<EskimoBob> now he is coding a world best web site?  << maybe he's pasting stuff from the interwebs
Nov 19 09:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	<pigeons> will you hire me for a per line project? << yes. five cents :D
Nov 19 09:43:48 <kakobrekla>	comments included?
Nov 19 09:44:18 <PsychoticBoy>	OMG the saga continues
Nov 19 09:44:43 <Diablo-D3>	5 cents?
Nov 19 09:44:43 <Diablo-D3>	jesus
Nov 19 09:44:57 <Diablo-D3>	wait, what sort of line? java line or perl line?
Nov 19 09:45:07 <kakobrekla>	im counting on comments.
Nov 19 09:48:02 <usagi>	kakosan: SLOC
Nov 19 09:48:19 <usagi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124391.msg1345014#msg1345014 <---
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Nov 19 09:50:01 <kakobrekla>	oh great even blank lines count.
Nov 19 09:52:08 <Diablo-D3>	SLOC meansno comments or blank lines
Nov 19 09:52:20 <Diablo-D3>	doesnt mean I cant use abusively weird formatting though
Nov 19 09:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121622.msg1344982#msg1344982
Nov 19 09:52:29 <mircea_popescu>	kinda related.
Nov 19 09:52:59 <kakobrekla>	hrm
Nov 19 09:53:00 <kakobrekla>	>but the most common definition of physical SLOC is a count of lines in the text of the program's source code including comment lines. Blank lines are also included unless the lines of code in a section consists of more than 25% blank lines. In this case blank lines in excess of 25% are not counted toward lines of code.
Nov 19 09:53:24 <Diablo-D3>	well
Nov 19 09:53:31 <Diablo-D3>	the real sloc method is just using sloccount
Nov 19 09:53:34 <pigeons>	anyway it would cost professionals $300K to write that many SLOC!
Nov 19 09:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	ffs srsly, who came up with bragging about this ? the only time sloc/loc is relevant is if you're trying to determine how much old pos code will cost to maintain
Nov 19 09:53:39 <Diablo-D3>	never try to do it by hand
Nov 19 09:53:42 <mircea_popescu>	they're a liability not something to be proud of
Nov 19 09:53:45 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: how many?
Nov 19 09:53:55 <pigeons>	Diablo-D3: usagi said $300K
Nov 19 09:54:01 <Diablo-D3>	no how many sloc
Nov 19 09:54:06 <kakobrekla>	i dont give a fuck im just trying to get payed for excessive commenting.
Nov 19 09:54:11 <pigeons>	10000 SLC
Nov 19 09:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	paid.
Nov 19 09:54:14 <Diablo-D3>	10k? wtf.
Nov 19 09:54:15 <kakobrekla>	paid
Nov 19 09:54:19 <Diablo-D3>	I've done 10k in a fucking weekend
Nov 19 09:54:28 <Diablo-D3>	people need to learn how the fuck software development works
Nov 19 09:54:36 *	mircea_popescu inb4 "i've done that many on a girl's backside"
Nov 19 09:54:51 <Diablo-D3>	no, thats just you mircea_popescu
Nov 19 09:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	tbh, i prefer the thigh and i don't think i've done fifty lines yet.
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Nov 19 11:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7022 @ 0.00050218 = 3.5263 BTC [+]
Nov 19 11:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13628 @ 0.00050219 = 6.8438 BTC [+]
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Nov 19 11:25:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30066 @ 0.00050219 = 15.0988 BTC [+]
Nov 19 11:29:45 *	jurov was a bit slow on uptake what "lines" mircea meant
Nov 19 11:29:48 <jurov>	hahahaha
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Nov 19 11:58:25 <temp_kluge>	Could someone remind me what the gribble command is to do lastseen? I thought it was ;;lastseen username
Nov 19 11:59:23 <kakobrekla>	;;seen gribble
Nov 19 11:59:24 <gribble>	I have not seen gribble.
Nov 19 12:00:23 <temp_kluge>	Thank you
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Nov 19 12:01:05 <temp_kluge>	Oh. guruvan hasn't been around in a long while.
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Nov 19 12:01:47 <temp_kluge>	Someone bored and wanna see if they can ssh into 199.27.134.223?
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Nov 19 12:05:14 <jurov>	i can't
Nov 19 12:05:21 <jurov>	at leas not port 22
Nov 19 12:06:07 <temp_kluge>	That's the port # I tried.
Nov 19 12:06:24 <temp_kluge>	But I didn't know if it was my mobile tether of 44kbps fucking up or not. :)
Nov 19 12:07:43 <temp_kluge>	Anyway - that's the address which came up for GLBSE. Maybe Nefario is really worried about the legality of releasing asset info.
Nov 19 12:08:32 <jurov>	what does it have with ssh?
Nov 19 12:09:18 <temp_kluge>	Idunno. Futzing around, wondering if Nefario may've left everything wide open to evade liability.
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Nov 19 12:47:13 <kakobrekla>	forum delivers https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126736.0
Nov 19 12:47:51 <jurov>	lol
Nov 19 12:48:20 <jurov>	ianal, temp_kluge, but I don't see how insecure server absolves anyone of liability
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Nov 19 12:55:29 <temp_kluge>	It was speculated, a while back - it might be illegal if any Issuers act on information directly provided by GLBSE.
Nov 19 12:56:18 <temp_kluge>	IANAL, either -- that's what one of the issuer's lawyers gave in an informal opinion a month or so ago.
Nov 19 12:56:45 <temp_kluge>	So maybe Nefario isn't acting nefariously.... Doubt it, but worth a shot for someone interested, maybe. I'm also drunk.
Nov 19 12:59:03 <mod6>	lol
Nov 19 13:00:57 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1345340#msg1345340 <-lol
Nov 19 13:12:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18736 @ 0.00050221 = 9.4094 BTC [+]
Nov 19 13:12:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11217 @ 0.00050225 = 5.6337 BTC [+]
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Nov 19 14:35:48 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121622.msg1345365#msg1345365
Nov 19 14:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	the forum delivers.
Nov 19 14:43:50 <Namjies>	Hey, if it was Mad Max, would sound fine, but it's a *MAD* Mad Max
Nov 19 14:44:05 <Namjies>	Proof: He wants to accept Paypal for a bitcoin casino?!?
Nov 19 14:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	the funny thing is,
Nov 19 14:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	he's all pretentious and talks shit to mpoe-pr ?!
Nov 19 14:53:25 <mod6>	lol first bitcoin casino on the internet my ass
Nov 19 14:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	nono you don't understand
Nov 19 14:53:42 <mircea_popescu>	unique snowflake mode ENGAGE
Nov 19 14:54:02 <mod6>	haha
Nov 19 14:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	btw mod6 there's something i wanted to talk to you about. we could like, make this site right ? except not really a site, more like some servers
Nov 19 14:57:10 <mod6>	and yeah, .onion bitcoin casinos were pretty awesome in mid-2011, at least playable anyway.
Nov 19 14:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	and then people could connect to them and chat.
Nov 19 14:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	it would be the first chat system on the internet
Nov 19 14:57:29 <mod6>	not just text either, and then seals with clubs
Nov 19 14:57:39 <mod6>	thats regular intarweb tho
Nov 19 14:58:06 <mod6>	oh.
Nov 19 14:58:38 <mod6>	right on.
Nov 19 14:58:53 <mod6>	i used to run a silc server back in the day.
Nov 19 14:59:10 <mod6>	we all liked it a lot -- its all encrypted by default, etc
Nov 19 14:59:44 <mod6>	could be an interesting multi-node network or something that could be apart from openprojects
Nov 19 14:59:47 <mod6>	err freenode
Nov 19 14:59:47 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't the encryption weak tho ?
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Nov 19 14:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	in silc i mean
Nov 19 15:00:17 <mod6>	im not sure it was weak -- per-se...i remember it being based on asymmetric algos
Nov 19 15:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	i have but vague recollections.
Nov 19 15:00:47 <mod6>	i'd have to look quick --- haven't looked at it in some time... there might be something better if that's kinda what you were gettin at.
Nov 19 15:01:18 <mircea_popescu>	The SILC implementation of its own spec is poor in that it is vulnerable to weak authentication which undermines any strong encryption it might have. For example, it is impossible to differentiate between two users whose keys you have verified before. If you verify these two user’s keys, and one of those users decides to impersonate the other one, SILC will happily continue without even mentioning this appalling situ
Nov 19 15:01:18 <mircea_popescu>	ation.
Nov 19 15:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	ya right i was.
Nov 19 15:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	https://we.riseup.net/riseup+tech/problems-with-silc
Nov 19 15:02:33 <mod6>	ahhh
Nov 19 15:02:35 *	mod6 looks 
Nov 19 15:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	i never used it, but i recall vaguely it was because tech gave it a neg report. this was years ago
Nov 19 15:03:30 <mod6>	yeah, i guess I was using it like prior to 2004
Nov 19 15:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	funny how ancient that is huh.
Nov 19 15:03:59 <mod6>	anyway, there are other ways if that's the overall goal though
Nov 19 15:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	im relatively happy with otr tbh.
Nov 19 15:04:17 <mod6>	hhaha, ikr! like 100,000,000 internet years
Nov 19 15:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	not that i need that much secrecy anyway. da fuck are they gonna expose, my private flirting with internet womenz ?
Nov 19 15:05:14 <mod6>	haha. i thought perhaps some of the auth stuff could be built into a sortof OTC login model we're doing with gribble...
Nov 19 15:05:52 <mod6>	i dunno, just a thought of a different way to get everyone auth'd on the same host with their keys without having to rely on a bot or 3rd party app
Nov 19 15:06:43 <mod6>	food for thought i guess. right now though, it works pretty krad. :]
Nov 19 15:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	im kinda curious how wot2.0 will be so
Nov 19 15:09:16 <mod6>	yeah, that'll be awesome
Nov 19 15:09:27 <mod6>	be back in a min here...
Nov 19 15:13:30 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: any word from harnett's employers
Nov 19 15:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	not so far actually.
Nov 19 15:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	which seems kinda odd. but hey, give them a week or w/e
Nov 19 15:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, both cryptoexchange and intersangro are closing, pretty soon we'll be exchangeless at this rate.
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Nov 19 15:20:43 <Namjies>	mircea, somehow, when trying to do a MKOPT, it returns "You need at least 0.00000000 BTC to cover these."
Nov 19 15:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	Also, fair warning - next week I'll be travelling to Macau, the gambling capital of Asia, to present at a gaming conference. I'll be showing SatoshiDICE to many people, including gambling entrepreneurs and business men.
Nov 19 15:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	It is possible that certain business deals could happen as a result of this trip. If you were considering buying shares of S.DICE, you may want to do it quickly. Who knows what a rich Macau gambling magnate might think of a system which allows wagering in any amount, from anywhere in the world, anonymously...
Nov 19 15:20:49 <mircea_popescu>	says evoorhees
Nov 19 15:21:06 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies that's odd...
Nov 19 15:21:15 *	mircea_popescu looks
Nov 19 15:21:30 <Namjies>	Aye, thanks
Nov 19 15:23:05 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies : retry.
Nov 19 15:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	(desync with trade db)
Nov 19 15:24:24 <Namjies>	odd... tells me I need much more than expected
Nov 19 15:24:48 <Namjies>	isn't put option strike/spot?
Nov 19 15:25:12 <Namjies>	and fee 2%?
Nov 19 15:25:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00050221 = 18.0796 BTC [-]
Nov 19 15:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's not / spot. it's / some risk adjusted value
Nov 19 15:25:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5222 @ 0.00050225 = 2.6227 BTC [+]
Nov 19 15:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6499 @ 0.00050229 = 3.2644 BTC [+]
Nov 19 15:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8629 @ 0.00050232 = 4.3345 BTC [+]
Nov 19 15:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	close to the average tho.
Nov 19 15:26:20 <mircea_popescu>	so it shouldnt be MUCH more than you expect. maybe a little more
Nov 19 15:27:14 <Namjies>	gives me 10% extra (excluding 2% fee)
Nov 19 15:28:04 <Namjies>	looks pretty high a fee
Nov 19 15:29:40 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/the-ponzi-of-wikipedia-and-bitcoin/
Nov 19 15:29:47 <smickles>	for your reading pleasure :D
Nov 19 15:30:18 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: You're going to be the guy presenting sdice to Macau?
Nov 19 15:30:31 <mircea_popescu>	nope ?
Nov 19 15:30:48 <mircea_popescu>	i'm too old to be going for these tricks, getting arrested in macau and whatnot.
Nov 19 15:30:54 <smickles>	oh, you were quoting someone then
Nov 19 15:31:07 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies it wouldn't be a fee tho, the fee is 2%. the collateral oyu get back.
Nov 19 15:31:14 <mircea_popescu>	smickles evoorhees
Nov 19 15:31:22 <smickles>	that make sense
Nov 19 15:31:23 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1345687#msg1345687
Nov 19 15:31:39 <Namjies>	eh, sorry, extra collateral
Nov 19 15:33:53 <Diablo-D3>	well
Nov 19 15:33:57 <Diablo-D3>	it took me two days
Nov 19 15:34:17 <Diablo-D3>	but Ive rewritten half of diablominer and modularized the internals
Nov 19 15:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies prolly best idea is to do very small bits first, get a good feel of how it works.
Nov 19 15:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126616.msg1344098#msg1344098 umm.
Nov 19 15:34:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130N] 214 @ 0.25593421 = 54.7699 BTC [-]
Nov 19 15:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	  I can't stop with the satoshidice. That game is evil. I really thought I was going to hit "big" one day. Every time I would hit big, the standard would raise until I lost control. Big became bigger. I was paying every loan off quickly and was satisfied with the profits + 10 to 20btc.
Nov 19 15:35:51 <Namjies>	I understand how it works...
Nov 19 15:36:04 <Namjies>	I wasn't aware the collateral was adjusted
Nov 19 15:36:21 <Namjies>	By such a big margin
Nov 19 15:37:00 <pigeons>	beta options at weexchange.co are also 10%
Nov 19 15:37:20 <Namjies>	lol... I had funds loaned to Lurk on BTCJam multiple times
Nov 19 15:37:39 <Namjies>	I had them all repaid however
Nov 19 15:37:45 <mircea_popescu>	btcjam debt = 92.25btc
Nov 19 15:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	there kakobrekla, that's 100 btc that won't be repaid.
Nov 19 15:38:13 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons o, they're doing options ?
Nov 19 15:38:18 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: yes
Nov 19 15:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Nov 19 15:38:30 <pigeons>	just started, still testing
Nov 19 15:38:51 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu not my money.
Nov 19 15:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	all i see is a login page. but anyway.
Nov 19 15:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla was re Nov 19 00:35:52 <kakobrekla>	at least 65 of em
Nov 19 15:40:17 <Namjies>	Well, at least he's honest about it.
Nov 19 15:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies that's a point.
Nov 19 15:40:55 <mircea_popescu>	he's not even so bad in the hole, coupla hundred btc big deal. he can make that in a month.
Nov 19 15:41:17 <Namjies>	If he had a job. He's unemployed apparently
Nov 19 15:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	Total Transactions    12445
Nov 19 15:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	Total Received    16161.82241607 BTC
Nov 19 15:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	Total Sent    16161.82093528 BTC
Nov 19 15:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	holy fucking cow
Nov 19 15:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	he's under by like... 1% ?
Nov 19 15:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	that's nothing.
Nov 19 15:43:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4860 @ 0.00339922 = 16.5202 BTC [-]
Nov 19 15:44:03 <pigeons>	your pumping is working
Nov 19 15:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha cool.
Nov 19 15:44:39 <mircea_popescu>	(i was pumping ?)
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Nov 19 15:44:58 <pigeons>	;)
Nov 19 15:45:17 <Namjies>	Great. Sold a few options
Nov 19 15:45:34 <Namjies>	There's nice PUT bids right now
Nov 19 15:45:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8500 @ 0.00339922 = 28.8934 BTC [-]
Nov 19 15:46:30 <Namjies>	Many 5-15% margin on PUTs for next month
Nov 19 15:46:43 <Namjies>	With the reward halving coming up
Nov 19 15:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	you figure price drops in dec ?
Nov 19 15:47:12 <Namjies>	No, raise.
Nov 19 15:47:23 <Namjies>	Or keep stable at least
Nov 19 15:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	o, selling puts. yeah.
Nov 19 15:48:25 <Namjies>	There's thousands of bids for puts with 0.05 - 0.15 BTC over their current execution value
Nov 19 15:49:16 <Namjies>	A good net against a price drop and if price stay stable or raises with reward halving, the margin could increase.
Nov 19 15:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	next month ? sure.
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Nov 19 15:50:06 <Namjies>	Well honestly, I'd always feel much safer going with selling PUTs for over their execution price
Nov 19 15:50:48 <Namjies>	price sometimes drop but eh
Nov 19 15:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	selling puts is a pretty reasonable way to protect yourself if you have $ and want btc.
Nov 19 15:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	(if the price drops you lose on the puts but can buy the btc cheaper. if not you make btc)
Nov 19 15:52:26 <Namjies>	Aye
Nov 19 15:52:57 <mircea_popescu>	which actually i guess is a position many people are in.
Nov 19 15:54:41 <Namjies>	I don't see why those PUT bids stay around for so long
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Nov 19 15:57:03 <Namjies>	On another note, apparently, bASIC is shipping...
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Nov 19 15:57:43 <mircea_popescu>	"An estimated 84 percent of coinstar users are women". Not going to comment on this one.
Nov 19 15:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean stay around ?
Nov 19 15:58:36 <Namjies>	That people don't sell into them. I barely see any volume.
Nov 19 16:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	Nov 18 22:02:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.88032553 = 880.3255 BTC [-]
Nov 19 16:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	sorta thing
Nov 19 16:03:19 <Namjies>	Yeah, there's a few
Nov 19 16:03:30 <Namjies>	But not much compared to all the bids available
Nov 19 16:03:39 <Namjies>	especially for the ones expiring next month
Nov 19 16:03:50 <Namjies>	which have higher margins
Nov 19 16:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	well i don't much expect the bot getting sold out
Nov 19 16:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	in fact the situation this month where calls got wiped is singular, never happened before.
Nov 19 16:07:50 <Namjies>	smickles
Nov 19 16:08:13 <Namjies>	About qualifying Bitcoin as a ponzi because it advantages early adopters.
Nov 19 16:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol. fucking hell, when you'rte born people already have dollars
Nov 19 16:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	then you have to work to get them'
Nov 19 16:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	PONZI
Nov 19 16:11:27 <Namjies>	Has anyone brought the stocks arguments yet? With example such as the $10000 Microsoft stake bought at IPO example?
Nov 19 16:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think many people give two shits about wikipedia
Nov 19 16:13:30 <Namjies>	But in any case, the article says Bitcoin has been accused of being a ponzi... not that it meets the definition of a ponzi.
Nov 19 16:13:37 <Namjies>	Which is, technically, very true.
Nov 19 16:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	well by this measure Bush was accused of being a reptillian
Nov 19 16:14:23 <Namjies>	I don't see any problem with that saying.
Nov 19 16:15:51 <Namjies>	You can say something is anything, and then go around saying that something has been accused of that anything.
Nov 19 16:16:25 <Namjies>	The accusation is a fact. If what you're accused of is true is not a fact.
Nov 19 16:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	ya well not all this spam is worth the mention i'd think.
Nov 19 16:21:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17171 @ 0.00050232 = 8.6253 BTC [+]
Nov 19 16:21:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8674 @ 0.0005024 = 4.3578 BTC [+]
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Nov 19 16:38:16 <pigeons>	lol at people telling the compulsive gambler he should try willpower and what he needs to do is "just say no"
Nov 19 16:40:01 <smickles>	jeebus, connection issues
Nov 19 16:43:29 <smickles>	Namjies: yes
Nov 19 16:43:48 <smickles>	^ re: < Namjies> Has anyone brought the stocks arguments yet? With example such as the $10000 Microsoft stake bought  at IPO example?
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Nov 19 16:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons he can do anything!
Nov 19 16:52:15 <smickles>	< pigeons> your pumping is working << naw, if anyone one it was me :P
Nov 19 16:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	you were pumpin ?
Nov 19 16:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126703.msg1345683#msg1345683
Nov 19 16:53:01 <mircea_popescu>	fucking scammer heaven
Nov 19 16:53:05 <smickles>	eh, not really, but remember i pointed out teh 1% gain possible
Nov 19 16:53:11 <smickles>	at dividends
Nov 19 17:01:31 <thestringpuller>	i'm gong to make a bitcoin money laundering service called bitlaundry
Nov 19 17:01:46 <thestringpuller>	"it all comes out in the wash" will be our motto
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Nov 19 17:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	there;'s a ton of those already.
Nov 19 17:03:14 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is there any point in buying options if there isn't a big swing
Nov 19 17:03:25 <thestringpuller>	for instance if you buy puts as insurance to doing business with btc
Nov 19 17:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	if you buy options you implicitly bet on a move.
Nov 19 17:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	if you sell options you implicitly bet on calm
Nov 19 17:04:36 <thestringpuller>	so if you're selling some product Y for bitcoins, and you expect the price to drop, you buy puts
Nov 19 17:04:55 <thestringpuller>	so what if you expect the price to not move much you sell an option?
Nov 19 17:05:19 <thestringpuller>	did I understand you correctly?
Nov 19 17:06:09 <mircea_popescu>	if you expect the price to go up significantly, you buy a call.
Nov 19 17:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	if you expect the price to go down significantly, you buy a put.
Nov 19 17:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	if you expect the price to NOT drop significantly you sell a put
Nov 19 17:06:29 <mircea_popescu>	if you expect the price to NOT go up significantly you sell a call.
Nov 19 17:08:13 <thestringpuller>	lots of options (pun intended)
Nov 19 17:08:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Nov 19 17:13:35 <thestringpuller>	thanks for explaining mircea_popescu, i feel as though I'm one of the ignorant kids sometimes
Nov 19 17:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	eh no big deal
Nov 19 17:14:47 <thestringpuller>	un blod de mircea_popescu is being used as a reference for my research paper
Nov 19 17:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	haha cool.
Nov 19 17:15:06 <thestringpuller>	blog*
Nov 19 17:15:23 <jurov>	coinbr will have "options advisor" someday
Nov 19 17:15:58 <jurov>	right after the "navigating the waters of btc securities safely" motto right below the mermaid
Nov 19 17:16:15 <thestringpuller>	who drew the mermaid?
Nov 19 17:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	im not even sure. was a contest
Nov 19 17:16:40 <jurov>	thebigheart, originally for mpex
Nov 19 17:17:56 <jurov>	as everyone knows, sirens are the symbol of safe navigation :P
Nov 19 17:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Nov 19 17:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	also tits.
Nov 19 17:18:49 <jurov>	yea, have hard time to decide between tits and boobs
Nov 19 17:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	boobits
Nov 19 17:21:15 <thestringpuller>	aapl just won't stop plummeting
Nov 19 17:21:27 <thestringpuller>	too big to fail!
Nov 19 17:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 19 17:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	someone was trying to get ppl to buy it in btc
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Nov 19 17:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	i was thinking, what a genius move. buy aapl in btc, six months later aapl is -40% in usd, the usd is -50% in btc... you've made a great investment
Nov 19 17:22:58 <thestringpuller>	or just do puts on aapl right as they announced the iphone 5
Nov 19 17:23:07 <thestringpuller>	which was my general advice to people I was investing for
Nov 19 17:23:11 <thestringpuller>	who all got fucking rich
Nov 19 17:23:19 <thestringpuller>	i got a measely .2% because i'm nice :P
Nov 19 17:23:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39349 @ 0.0005024 = 19.7689 BTC [+]
Nov 19 17:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol mpex charges .2%
Nov 19 17:25:06 <thestringpuller>	you should charge more :P
Nov 19 17:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Nov 19 17:26:38 <thestringpuller>	you already charge an illustrious membership fee
Nov 19 17:26:41 <thestringpuller>	XD
Nov 19 17:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 19 17:28:27 <thestringpuller>	;;halfreward
Nov 19 17:28:28 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Thu Nov 29 04:58:28 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 19 17:28:59 <thestringpuller>	the rewardoclypse is among us.
Nov 19 17:29:10 <jurov>	happy halving day
Nov 19 17:29:14 <mircea_popescu>	it won't be long now.
Nov 19 17:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	esp if basic actually delivers :D
Nov 19 17:29:38 <jurov>	i suspect mpex will celebrate it by finally raising the fee to 50btc
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Nov 19 17:29:42 <thestringpuller>	I think all asic manufacturers are lying
Nov 19 17:29:57 <thestringpuller>	50btc fee
Nov 19 17:30:03 <thestringpuller>	I should get and account now :(
Nov 19 17:30:11 <thestringpuller>	or perhaps a christmas special?
Nov 19 17:30:12 <thestringpuller>	:)
Nov 19 17:30:21 <thestringpuller>	buy 1 account get 1 free
Nov 19 17:30:22 <thestringpuller>	lol jk jk
Nov 19 17:30:26 <kakobrekla>	just use coinbr
Nov 19 17:31:20 <thestringpuller>	but but
Nov 19 17:31:31 <mircea_popescu>	on the long term you're better of buying an acct now than later
Nov 19 17:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	this was true all through
Nov 19 17:31:49 <thestringpuller>	extortion combined with laziness huh?
Nov 19 17:32:08 <jurov>	no, it's just ponzi, ya know
Nov 19 17:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	what can i tell you. there's no love for the idle.
Nov 19 17:32:17 <thestringpuller>	next time I here ponzi
Nov 19 17:32:20 <thestringpuller>	I'm slap someone back to 1920
Nov 19 17:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	all hail teh industrious
Nov 19 17:32:39 <thestringpuller>	industrialists sometimes fall
Nov 19 17:32:52 <thestringpuller>	if i was an industrialist I would be idle during the day and batman at night
Nov 19 17:33:39 <dub>	I here ponzi? or Here I ponzi
Nov 19 17:33:51 <thestringpuller>	hear* :)
Nov 19 17:33:57 <thestringpuller>	Here I am Charles Ponzi
Nov 19 17:34:17 <thestringpuller>	send me money so I can send overpriced stamps to my family back in europe
Nov 19 17:34:20 <thestringpuller>	tons of money in it
Nov 19 17:34:22 <thestringpuller>	invest early
Nov 19 17:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	https://btct.co/
Nov 19 17:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	o look another one
Nov 19 17:36:53 <dub>	wtf is this .co I keep seeing
Nov 19 17:37:17 <dub>	and why does its 'nic' have invalid ssl cert
Nov 19 17:37:32 <dub>	get off my internet
Nov 19 17:37:34 <thestringpuller>	LTC MINING
Nov 19 17:37:36 <thestringpuller>	hahahahaha
Nov 19 17:38:39 <jurov>	Every asset issuer receives a daily email showing who is holding their assets. This allows them to move their virtual operation off the site to anywhere else they might choose.
Nov 19 17:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	i said nothing.
Nov 19 17:39:11 <pigeons>	really depends on your definition of invalid.
Nov 19 17:39:32 <jurov>	The use of this site is for educational and entertainment purposes only.
Nov 19 17:39:41 <jurov>	^^^they say it themselves
Nov 19 17:39:51 <thestringpuller>	I don't think there is a point in it.
Nov 19 17:39:56 <thestringpuller>	They have no options
Nov 19 17:40:00 <thestringpuller>	or any kind of useful contracts
Nov 19 17:40:46 <pigeons>	i mean regarding dub. the ssl cartels and browser makers' definition of valid isn't the only valid one
Nov 19 17:41:07 <Namjies>	Well, anyone wishing to sell F.GIGA.ETF before they get delisted at the end of December?
Nov 19 17:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://blockchain.info/ so pretty much all that happens in btc is s.dice
Nov 19 17:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons why use their certs if you don't agree with their definitinos ?
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Nov 19 17:43:14 <Namjies>	For encryption?
Nov 19 17:43:20 <Namjies>	of communication...
Nov 19 17:43:20 <pigeons>	i don't use their certs for issuer trust
Nov 19 17:43:31 <thestringpuller>	;;google subterfuge
Nov 19 17:43:31 <gribble>	Subterfuge - Merriam-Webster Online: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subterfuge>; subterfuge - definition of subterfuge by the Free Online Dictionary ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/subterfuge>; Subterfuge | Define Subterfuge at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/subterfuge>
Nov 19 17:43:46 <thestringpuller>	;;lucky subterfuge
Nov 19 17:43:47 <gribble>	http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subterfuge
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Nov 19 17:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons was the impersonal you lol.
Nov 19 17:44:19 <mircea_popescu>	just like bitcoin wiki STUPIDLY is on https
Nov 19 17:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	and then STUPIDLY uses a broken cert.
Nov 19 17:44:32 <mircea_popescu>	plenty of people can't see it.
Nov 19 17:44:34 <pigeons>	its not broken
Nov 19 17:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	it is.
Nov 19 17:44:45 <pigeons>	its not, it works fine
Nov 19 17:44:55 <Namjies>	You have to use the same thing, except browsers will warn users about your self-issued certificate.
Nov 19 17:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	listen to me. today some lawyer guy i work with sometimes asked me a bunch of q's about bitcoin
Nov 19 17:45:16 <mircea_popescu>	i went to the wiki in the browser and firefox popped the warning
Nov 19 17:45:19 <mircea_popescu>	i could see him cringe.
Nov 19 17:45:29 <mircea_popescu>	why the fuck does a wiki even need https ?
Nov 19 17:45:51 <Luceo>	It doesn't
Nov 19 17:45:54 <Namjies>	Firefox doesn't pop me the warning...
Nov 19 17:45:54 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Nov 19 17:46:07 <Luceo>	But if its going to use it, why not get a StartSSL cert or PositiveSSL for $10?
Nov 19 17:46:08 <pigeons>	well for one cause you login to edit, so your credentials can be stolen, for another for privacy
Nov 19 17:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i agree, in plenty of browsers it works fine. but why cut out a fraction ?
Nov 19 17:46:20 <Namjies>	Verified by StartCom Ltd.
Nov 19 17:46:21 <Luceo>	I mean fuck, I'll donate the $10
Nov 19 17:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons come on, privacy. what's private ? it's a wiki.
Nov 19 17:46:30 <Luceo>	And they can get a Comodo cert
Nov 19 17:46:44 <Luceo>	Login details are private
Nov 19 17:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	ya ok.
Nov 19 17:46:53 <dub>	I dont want my employer reading my wiki vandalisation
Nov 19 17:46:56 <pigeons>	comodo certs are broken
Nov 19 17:47:04 <mircea_popescu>	people will get bored with hacking linode and will start hacking wiki accts.
Nov 19 17:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	cause those are REAL valuable.
Nov 19 17:47:18 <pigeons>	if you trust the fingerprint of the cert its not broken. i dont trust any comodo certs
Nov 19 17:47:33 <pigeons>	only things you think should be private should be private?
Nov 19 17:47:37 <Luceo>	Comodo certs are fine
Nov 19 17:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons should everything be encrypted just because it can ?
Nov 19 17:48:14 <Luceo>	They work in all major browsers and all major mobile browsers
Nov 19 17:48:17 <Namjies>	so are self-issued certificates...
Nov 19 17:48:20 <Luceo>	I'm in favor of https where possible
Nov 19 17:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Nov 19 17:48:34 <mircea_popescu>	this is like being in favour of driving wherever possible.
Nov 19 17:48:35 <Luceo>	Just dont understand not spending $10 on a cert
Nov 19 17:48:37 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: it is a valid stance. why cant they offer ssl? why cant people use it?
Nov 19 17:48:37 <dub>	because security derp
Nov 19 17:48:39 <mircea_popescu>	NO. drive wherever NEEDED!
Nov 19 17:48:50 <pigeons>	i dont understand spending anything on a fucking comodo cert
Nov 19 17:49:02 <Luceo>	OK, get a geotrust one then...
Nov 19 17:49:08 <pigeons>	any cartel cert
Nov 19 17:49:10 <Namjies>	Browsers should not pop such a warning for self-issued certificates. Really sends the wrong message to users.
Nov 19 17:49:14 <Luceo>	It's irrelevant which issuer you use as long as they're a valid root CA
Nov 19 17:49:22 <pigeons>	what is valid?
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Nov 19 17:49:35 <pigeons>	I decide which CAs are valid
Nov 19 17:49:37 <Luceo>	Whatever the browser moguls are supporting right now
Nov 19 17:49:42 <Luceo>	Comodo
Nov 19 17:49:47 <Luceo>	Geotrust
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Nov 19 17:50:03 <Luceo>	Disclosure: I'm a Comodo reseller :P
Nov 19 17:50:06 <pigeons>	and i decide none of them are. i trust individual fingerprints. yes there are challenges to that, but we're working on them. al ot better already than using networks solutions or comodo
Nov 19 17:50:11 <pigeons>	or geotrust
Nov 19 17:50:13 <dub>	all this is ireelevant anyway
Nov 19 17:50:26 <dub>	shoot the system monkey that got it wrong, load another from spares
Nov 19 17:50:56 <Luceo>	Well, I think the wiki is better off accomodating the majority of its users than a few fringes who have a personal issue with CAs :/
Nov 19 17:51:22 <pigeons>	well i think the wiki shouldt cater to the few fringes who have an issue with centralized currency
Nov 19 17:52:16 <Luceo>	If you can show that most of those people have an issue with root CAs I'll be happy to defer
Nov 19 17:52:24 <mircea_popescu>	jesus i didn't realise pigeons had such strong feelings on the subject
Nov 19 17:52:25 <pigeons>	51% attack?
Nov 19 17:52:31 <mircea_popescu>	what difference does it make !? it's just a wiki ;/
Nov 19 17:53:07 <jurov>	on frontpage there's software on download, better download it over ssl
Nov 19 17:53:22 <jurov>	although it's rather weak argument
Nov 19 17:53:41 <jurov>	one should check checksum instead
Nov 19 17:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	wikipedia works over http
Nov 19 17:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	afaik the acct hacking isn't a big deal. does anyone know ?
Nov 19 17:54:26 <pigeons>	wikipedia works over http and https. so does bitcoin wiki.
Nov 19 17:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	no. http redirects to https.
Nov 19 17:54:49 <pigeons>	oh
Nov 19 17:55:24 <dub>	why is it on .it?
Nov 19 17:55:31 <Namjies>	Also, that
Nov 19 17:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	prolly someone happened to have that domain.
Nov 19 17:55:40 <pigeons>	have you seen the woikipedia attack where people figure out what you are looking at by some sort of checksum of the returned encrypted page based on comparing it to the db dumps?
Nov 19 17:55:41 <dub>	because some assclown like gengix set it up probably
Nov 19 17:56:04 <dub>	end all further discussion of why it may or may not be retarded
Nov 19 17:56:07 <Luceo>	.it is less likely to be confiscated I expect
Nov 19 17:56:26 <thestringpuller>	jurov: can you make cool widgets?
Nov 19 17:56:33 <thestringpuller>	and how much do you charge?
Nov 19 17:56:46 <jurov>	whois says "Christoph Glitsch"
Nov 19 17:58:57 <pigeons>	"Christoph Glitsch" owns about11,430 other domains
Nov 19 17:59:24 <Namjies>	.....
Nov 19 17:59:33 <Namjies>	That's a lot of domains
Nov 19 18:00:24 <pigeons>	hmm he has hurrdurr.it
Nov 19 18:01:05 <Namjies>	....
Nov 19 18:01:20 <Namjies>	it somehow troubles me
Nov 19 18:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	why would they confiscate the btc wiki ;/
Nov 19 18:02:40 <pigeons>	heh
Nov 19 18:04:02 <Luceo>	I dunno, it was probbaly set up during last year when all the shit was going down about BTC being investigated because of SR
Nov 19 18:04:07 <Luceo>	A lot of people were paranoid last year
Nov 19 18:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	but i fail to see the argument. the italians are way in the top of retarded
Nov 19 18:04:29 <pigeons>	no it was ther ebefore last year
Nov 19 18:04:40 <mircea_popescu>	iirc it was started 2010
Nov 19 18:04:54 <Luceo>	They're also way in the top of not giving a shit about the Internet :P
Nov 19 18:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	or work
Nov 19 18:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	or study
Nov 19 18:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	or in general anything.
Nov 19 18:07:37 <pigeons>	i bet it has more to do with christoph glitch will register you a domain and keep your identity private, so long as you use an .it and yeah that doesnt explain why not wiki.bitcoin.org but maybe some people didnt get along
Nov 19 18:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://wiki.bitcoin.org would be ideal
Nov 19 18:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	with optional https
Nov 19 18:09:37 <smickles>	 < mircea_popescu> but i fail to see the argument. the italians are way in the top of retarded << remember the google employees going to jail b/c some kid posted a vid on youtube of a mentally ill kid being bullied?
Nov 19 18:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	vaguely
Nov 19 18:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	i also remember some scientists on trial cause they didn' predict an earthquake
Nov 19 18:10:21 <smickles>	they do give a shit about the internet sometimes then
Nov 19 18:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	italy is really like a sort of independent Louisiana.
Nov 19 18:10:37 <smickles>	oh, lol, yeah, i'd forgotten the earthquake thing
Nov 19 18:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	so retarded it boggles.
Nov 19 18:11:20 <pigeons>	louisiana ain't so bad. mississippi now...
Nov 19 18:11:45 <smickles>	biloxi/gulfport is kinda nice tho
Nov 19 18:11:55 <thestringpuller>	morgan freeman is from mississipi
Nov 19 18:12:05 <thestringpuller>	with mississipi we wouldn't have no morgan freeman
Nov 19 18:12:10 <smickles>	just avoid the jefferson davis tourist trap
Nov 19 18:12:42 <pigeons>	morgan freeman wouldnt be so cool if he wasn' ttrying to get away from shitty mississippi
Nov 19 18:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16827 @ 0.0005024 = 8.4539 BTC [+]
Nov 19 18:13:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5373 @ 0.00050249 = 2.6999 BTC [+]
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Nov 19 18:14:03 <smickles>	Azelphur: you bitch
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Nov 19 18:14:14 <Azelphur>	smickles: I bitch
Nov 19 18:14:27 <Azelphur>	what do
Nov 19 18:14:32 <smickles>	i can install steam on my compy, and it shows it working, but a message pops up and says i'm not part of the beta
Nov 19 18:14:37 <smickles>	then closes it
Nov 19 18:14:42 <Azelphur>	smickles: allow me to educate you
Nov 19 18:14:51 <Azelphur>	smickles: in terminal, steam steam://install/440
Nov 19 18:14:56 <Azelphur>	you are now a 1337 h4x0r
Nov 19 18:15:09 <smickles>	no fuckin way, just use the game id?
Nov 19 18:15:14 <Azelphur>	yup
Nov 19 18:15:29 <Azelphur>	it's only been that you could install tf2 for a few minutes now
Nov 19 18:15:34 <Azelphur>	so that may be a bug and revoked
Nov 19 18:15:44 <Azelphur>	but you could always get into the beta client itself (just not install steam) since the beginning
Nov 19 18:15:52 <smickles>	hmm, not workin
Nov 19 18:15:53 <Azelphur>	I've been in the official beta since the beginning near enough
Nov 19 18:15:58 <Namjies>	Did you know you can unlock or relock any steam achievement too?
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Nov 19 18:16:00 <Azelphur>	you need to run that with steam closed
Nov 19 18:16:05 <pigeons>	yeah thats the normal message if you're not in the beta
Nov 19 18:16:08 <Namjies>	Game not required.
Nov 19 18:16:20 <Azelphur>	Namjies: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Azelphur/stats/TF2 nope *sarcasm* :P
Nov 19 18:16:24 <smickles>	oh
Nov 19 18:16:32 <smickles>	it's steam steam://install/440
Nov 19 18:16:38 <Azelphur>	smickles: yep :)
Nov 19 18:18:51 <Namjies>	You played for almost 7 decades on EACH class. Interesting.
Nov 19 18:19:02 <thestringpuller>	7 decades?
Nov 19 18:19:07 <Namjies>	7 decades / class
Nov 19 18:19:34 <Namjies>	596523.2 hours of play time on each class.
Nov 19 18:20:10 <Namjies>	look at Azelphur's stats
Nov 19 18:20:19 <Azelphur>	XD
Nov 19 18:20:23 <smickles>	woah steam steam://open/games
Nov 19 18:20:27 <smickles>	there's moar!
Nov 19 18:20:51 <Azelphur>	MOAR!
Nov 19 18:20:53 <Azelphur>	yep :P
Nov 19 18:22:01 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: does s.mpoe come with any voting rights?
Nov 19 18:23:36 <Namjies>	look at terms?
Nov 19 18:23:38 <pigeons>	troll
Nov 19 18:23:42 <Namjies>	I believe it does not
Nov 19 18:24:00 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Nov 19 18:25:30 <smickles>	even if it did, mp isn't allowed to release more than 50%
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Nov 19 18:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	well moreover nobody on mpex can sell more than 50% exactly because shares can't vote.
Nov 19 18:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	none of that glbse shit with people running companies where they sold 10k shares and have 100 of their own
Nov 19 18:26:56 <mircea_popescu>	usually selfgifted too
Nov 19 18:29:31 <thestringpuller>	voting rights are awesome though
Nov 19 18:29:38 <thestringpuller>	it's how you hostile take over a company
Nov 19 18:30:20 <jurov>	like, mircea is to allow hostile takeover? hahaha
Nov 19 18:31:00 <thestringpuller>	well you can still give stock voting rights
Nov 19 18:31:02 <pigeons>	mircea says hostyle, doggystyle, any style will do
Nov 19 18:31:13 <thestringpuller>	and maintain control
Nov 19 18:31:18 <thestringpuller>	facebook stock is that way
Nov 19 18:31:46 <thestringpuller>	the stock zuckerberg owns, has like 2-3x the votes as a normal stock bought on the market
Nov 19 18:33:28 <jurov>	well, if you so crave shares with voting rights, i can privately issue some for coinbr :P
Nov 19 18:34:00 <thestringpuller>	I secretly want to find a millionaire and buy all the MPOE stock and vote mircea out
Nov 19 18:34:10 <thestringpuller>	HOSTILE TAKE OVER
Nov 19 18:34:15 <thestringpuller>	without guns
Nov 19 18:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller so how do you do a hostile takeover ?
Nov 19 18:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	like it went with nefario ?
Nov 19 18:35:20 <midnightmagic>	outstanding stock has to be 1) purchasable, and 2) outside of mircea's control to be sold, and 3) voting shares under some kind of structure.
Nov 19 18:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	but how do you enforce the vote ?
Nov 19 18:35:58 <midnightmagic>	I suspect since he has technical control of the market, even if the company were a company with proper voting shares, mircea could just physicall halt the sale.
Nov 19 18:36:13 <mircea_popescu>	the reason it's set up like this is exactly that i don't want to create this possibility where something's due but unenforceable.
Nov 19 18:36:21 <midnightmagic>	I mean who knows, maybe MPOE doesn't even have transferrable shares.
Nov 19 18:36:29 <thestringpuller>	make it so the bot decides
Nov 19 18:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean ?
Nov 19 18:36:58 <thestringpuller>	say I start a company and list it on a reputable exchange
Nov 19 18:37:18 <mircea_popescu>	i meant to midnightmagic but go ahead
Nov 19 18:37:21 <midnightmagic>	thestringpuller: Like a real exchange? Like NYSE?
Nov 19 18:37:31 <thestringpuller>	midnightmagic: lol
Nov 19 18:38:01 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I literally have no idea at all how you've set up MPOE. As far as I've seen, it's just a sandbox on your webserver that's fun to play with.
Nov 19 18:38:04 <thestringpuller>	you should put up collateral, if your business is based on a website the bot controllig the exchange should have access to that site
Nov 19 18:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	honestly i think the nyse is a lot less real rthan mpex atm. all that bs free money, all those algo trades...
Nov 19 18:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic a well, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745 you can read there
Nov 19 18:38:45 <midnightmagic>	Oh am I naming it incorrectly? Is it MPEX or MPOE?
Nov 19 18:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	MPOE = mircea popescu's options emporium (the old options trading page)
Nov 19 18:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	mpex = mircea popescu exchange
Nov 19 18:39:41 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe-pr = the harpy all the geeks want to nail.
Nov 19 18:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	gee whiz, i have my own glossary. i shall name it mpgloss!
Nov 19 18:40:27 <thestringpuller>	I'm going to trademark all these MP** and not license the trademark to you
Nov 19 18:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	i'll care.
Nov 19 18:41:21 <mod6>	haha.
Nov 19 18:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	prolly get a kickback from the trademark office, you pay 1-2k to them, i change the name.
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Nov 19 18:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	cox.net ? is that where all the porn is ?
Nov 19 18:44:16 <mod6>	haha. i used to have cox i think ... it was either that or Charter? out there in tucson
Nov 19 18:44:23 <mod6>	looks like that is probably las vegas?
Nov 19 18:44:35 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49383.msg1345959#msg1345959
Nov 19 18:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty nasty.
Nov 19 18:44:44 <smickles>	cox in tucson
Nov 19 18:44:51 <mod6>	:>
Nov 19 18:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	smickles sounds like a party college.
Nov 19 18:45:02 <smickles>	and thestringpuller, good luck getting even 4% of s.mpoe
Nov 19 18:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	- what do you do, are you an actress ?
Nov 19 18:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	- student
Nov 19 18:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	- o cool, where
Nov 19 18:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	- U of Cox in Tucson
Nov 19 18:46:46 <mod6>	lol. UofA is a pretty good school actually.. the real party school is ASU
Nov 19 18:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Nov 19 18:47:44 <smickles>	My mom was vp of accounting at cox at one point in time
Nov 19 18:48:00 <smickles>	i'm sure ther's a joke in there
Nov 19 18:48:10 <mod6>	ha
Nov 19 18:48:26 <smickles>	they moved her to marketing later on tho, i dunno why
Nov 19 18:48:30 <mod6>	vircurex didn't ever allow exchange of buttcoins i see
Nov 19 18:48:41 <mod6>	just about everything else though
Nov 19 18:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	titcoins
Nov 19 18:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	titcoins, hipcoins, calfcoins, we need all the coins!
Nov 19 18:49:54 <mod6>	clitcoins
Nov 19 18:50:52 <mod6>	there you go
Nov 19 18:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	clitcoins yeah
Nov 19 18:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	hoochcoins too
Nov 19 18:52:30 <mod6>	oh hey, i finally watched the '65 version of Doctor Zhivago -- it was pretty great actualy
Nov 19 18:52:33 <mod6>	*actually
Nov 19 18:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Nov 19 18:53:20 <mod6>	I forgot how in older movies that many of the credits are in the beginning of the movie.
Nov 19 18:54:46 <thestringpuller>	Alfred Hitchcock!
Nov 19 18:54:58 <mod6>	he was a dickwad
Nov 19 18:56:58 <thestringpuller>	What about Humphrey Bogart?
Nov 19 18:58:44 <mod6>	*shrug*
Nov 19 18:59:23 <thestringpuller>	%6
Nov 19 18:59:31 <mod6>	now you got it :D
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Nov 19 19:00:29 <mod6>	i read all these classic type books over the last four to five years -- i was talking with mircea about it a while ago
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Nov 19 19:01:11 <mod6>	kinda lead me to watch the old 65 version of that movie. was worth the 3 hours, it did the novel justice... which of course is fantastic
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Nov 19 19:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	Dank Metal - Silver and gold for BTC @ Spot Price
Nov 19 19:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	is there anything that muppet hasn't done yet ?
Nov 19 19:08:57 <thestringpuller>	lol Dank Metal
Nov 19 19:09:02 <thestringpuller>	that would be a good album name
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Nov 19 19:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	kinda
Nov 19 19:15:08 <thestringpuller>	metal is socialist music
Nov 19 19:15:23 <thestringpuller>	because it comes from socialist countries
Nov 19 19:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	by this reasoning babies are female
Nov 19 19:15:57 <mircea_popescu>	cause they come out of women
Nov 19 19:16:47 <thestringpuller>	I was thinking like an murican for a minute
Nov 19 19:35:15 <Namjies>	Space Travel Guide: Did you know Muricans are naturally so round and fat you don't need any oil to cook them into fried meatballs?
Nov 19 19:35:36 <Namjies>	Ensuing abductions and missing people throughout America
Nov 19 19:35:45 <thestringpuller>	XD
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Nov 19 19:37:44 <Namjies>	Well sometimes keeping it stupid simple makes a lot of sense.
Nov 19 19:38:47 <Namjies>	I don't see much logical reasons "aliens" would do most of what some people claim.
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Nov 19 19:43:42 <thestringpuller>	Watch Invader Zim
Nov 19 19:43:54 <Namjies>	Well... it wouldn't make a lot of sense for such advanced species to do such things.
Nov 19 19:44:40 <Namjies>	Being advanced enough to visit us, they'd probably have zero interest in meddling with us or the Earth.
Nov 19 19:44:53 <Namjies>	But the nonsense spawned many great games tho.
Nov 19 19:45:03 <Namjies>	(and movies)
Nov 19 19:49:24 <jurov>	of course. like white men have zero interest in meeddling with indigenous rainforest tribes.
Nov 19 19:49:32 <jurov>	*meddling
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Nov 19 19:51:49 <Namjies>	No, I meant, if you're technologically advanced, you're probably going to be able to use solar power to constantly recycle the same matter before being able to travel efficiently between stars
Nov 19 19:52:24 <Namjies>	Which kinds of destroy the whole need to go exterminate indigenous races and take their planet
Nov 19 19:53:37 <Namjies>	There's enough brute resources (basic elements) everywhere not to care about Earth.
Nov 19 19:54:49 <Namjies>	There's even that movie where they abduct people and take their brains out to place them into biounits to serve as processors. How pretentious is that of us? They need our brains!
Nov 19 19:54:50 <jurov>	i hope so. but still, while like, 99,99% of us can go by without mahogany wood or ivory
Nov 19 19:55:13 <jurov>	the few who do not, cause some havoc
Nov 19 19:55:27 <dub>	not to mention tiger penis
Nov 19 19:56:30 <thestringpuller>	tiger blood
Nov 19 19:56:31 <Namjies>	Oh right... What did Futurama tell us? Ah yes, human trunks are excellent aphrodisiacs.
Nov 19 19:57:34 <jurov>	that's not necessary
Nov 19 19:58:03 <Namjies>	If they're still going after such senseless things, I'll call out how a miserable failure their society is before harvesting me.
Nov 19 19:58:06 <jurov>	an equivalent of donald trump who bulldozed unique nature reservation on scotland
Nov 19 19:58:13 <jurov>	for his golf course
Nov 19 19:58:17 <jurov>	would suffice
Nov 19 19:58:54 <Namjies>	Why would aliens do such things specifically on Earth?
Nov 19 19:59:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25250 @ 0.00050249 = 12.6879 BTC [+]
Nov 19 19:59:20 <jurov>	why would trump build his cours especifically there? just because
Nov 19 19:59:23 <Namjies>	They could basically produce/multiply anything anywhere in outerspace.
Nov 19 19:59:46 <dub>	I think this might be the most retarded conversation ever
Nov 19 19:59:52 <Namjies>	But trump had to put it somewhere on Earth because it's not feasible to just put things in space.
Nov 19 20:00:36 <Namjies>	No need to harvest humans or mine Earth or take the space on Earth.
Nov 19 20:01:40 <Namjies>	dub: yes, very much.
Nov 19 20:01:51 <jurov>	usually they make golf courses on wasteland cause they need lots of chemicals to upkeep, he did not have to put it there
Nov 19 20:03:05 <dub>	its the same reason china extincts an animal because they think eating its penis has medicinal benefits when it doesnt
Nov 19 20:05:35 <Namjies>	Maybe the place was close and just nice looking...
Nov 19 20:06:02 <jurov>	Yes. Earth is quite a nice looking place, too
Nov 19 20:06:28 <dub>	with any luck aliens will come here and harvest both china and donald trump
Nov 19 20:07:03 <jurov>	or become addicted to a maple syrup, did you read that?
Nov 19 20:07:42 <dub>	that aliens are addicted to maple syrup?
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Nov 19 20:08:18 <jurov>	(John Ringo's Live Free or Die book)
Nov 19 20:09:25 <Namjies>	If they get addicted to maple syrup they can probably just copy it indefinitly at home...
Nov 19 20:09:52 <Namjies>	Instead of taking the few that's available on Earth
Nov 19 20:10:24 <Namjies>	Open harvesting of the maple trees is probably super inneficient too...
Nov 19 20:11:00 <jurov>	that probably falls into that mahogany/ivory argument, too. we do have decent synthetic replacements,.
Nov 19 20:24:40 <Namjies>	I meant they can probably make a 100% identic replica with an error of less than 1 atom.
Nov 19 20:34:30 <dub>	now you're just being silly
Nov 19 20:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 777 @ 0.00050249 = 0.3904 BTC [+]
Nov 19 20:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14929 @ 0.0005025 = 7.5018 BTC [+]
Nov 19 20:49:24 <smickles>	Azelphur: did you have to update your drivers or anything like that?
Nov 19 20:50:03 <Azelphur>	yep
Nov 19 20:51:16 <smickles>	Azelphur: which way did you have to do it?
Nov 19 20:51:29 <Azelphur>	I did it with jockey like it tells me to :P
Nov 19 20:51:45 <smickles>	to teh 'post-release' update?
Nov 19 20:51:56 <Azelphur>	nvidia 310
Nov 19 20:52:21 <smickles>	oh you, i have amd
Nov 19 20:52:45 <Azelphur>	ah
Nov 19 20:52:57 <Azelphur>	smickles: I actually had it running on my AMD netbook on the open source drivers
Nov 19 20:53:07 <Azelphur>	if you have a decent card, it may well run at a decent fps using open
Nov 19 20:54:54 <smickles>	oh lol, my install doesn't give me the open option /me just noticed
Nov 19 20:55:19 *	smickles is a bad, bad linux user
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Nov 19 21:14:04 <smickles>	an update http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/the-ponzi-of-wikipedia-and-bitcoin/#update_19nov12
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Nov 19 21:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00050223 = 15.0167 BTC [-]
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Nov 19 21:19:09 <dub>	http://img.giftube.name/media/photos/4f421ed451c64/4f421ed451c64.gif
Nov 19 21:21:46 <dub>	smickles: that is an unbelievably dull drama
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Nov 19 21:22:44 <dub>	doyouevenlift84 should certainly remain banned
Nov 19 21:24:25 <smickles>	dub: heh, that giftube link is a 'reliable source'
Nov 19 21:25:22 <smickles>	oh, and it's wikipedia, i don't expect the drama to be much better than that
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Nov 19 21:39:20 <thestringpuller>	zynga lays off a bunch of people and is still hiring?
Nov 19 21:39:22 <thestringpuller>	the fuck...
Nov 19 21:40:31 <smickles>	is that like the extreem version of 'stacked ranking' (or w/e it's called)
Nov 19 21:47:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9663 @ 0.0005025 = 4.8557 BTC [+]
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Nov 19 21:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	dub retarded women.
Nov 19 21:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	what sort of behaviour is that!
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Nov 19 22:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1346514#msg1346514 << oi! anyone lend any credence to all that ?!
Nov 19 22:14:58 <dub>	they're loving it
Nov 19 22:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	dub they're loving it like 14 year olds
Nov 19 22:39:04 <dub>	14 year olds can be fun
Nov 19 22:46:45 <thestringpuller>	fun in bed when you're 14
Nov 19 22:46:50 <thestringpuller>	otherwise they are annoying little shits
Nov 19 22:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10769 @ 0.0005025 = 5.4114 BTC [+]
Nov 19 22:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00050252 = 18.4927 BTC [+]
Nov 19 22:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1831 @ 0.00050257 = 0.9202 BTC [+]
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Nov 19 23:38:29 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller pretty much has it.
Nov 19 23:53:14 <dub>	mircea_popescu: you should collect a bounty to make a film of yourself delivering flowers to nefario
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Nov 19 23:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	by means of affixing forgivemenots to my cock and having him lick them off ?
Nov 19 23:54:26 <thestringpuller>	that's really gay
Nov 19 23:56:56 <thestringpuller>	why the fuck is my system clock so out of sync
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Nov 20 02:42:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12598 @ 0.00050257 = 6.3314 BTC [+]
Nov 20 02:42:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23706 @ 0.00050259 = 11.9144 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 04:21:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 915 @ 0.00050267 = 0.4599 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 06:06:10 <EskimoBob>	any good news?
Nov 20 06:11:18 <guruvan>	my wifi is working - that's pretty good news EskimoBob :D
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Nov 20 06:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.infowars.com/student-expelled-for-refusing-location-tracking-rfid-badge/
Nov 20 06:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty funny
Nov 20 06:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31750 @ 0.00050255 = 15.956 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 07:06:48 <EskimoBob>	I guess guruvans wifi was "almost working" :)
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Nov 20 07:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Nov 20 07:58:20 <PsychoticBoy>	Any news from scammy fuck nefario?
Nov 20 08:09:16 <EskimoBob>	none PsychoticBoy
Nov 20 08:09:31 <EskimoBob>	I think I am going to call him
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Nov 20 08:09:55 <PsychoticBoy>	ok tell him I said FU
Nov 20 08:11:19 <EskimoBob>	no, I did not tell him that because he is actually releasing the sh info
Nov 20 08:11:43 <EskimoBob>	4 eq's got it last night and 4 will be released today and so on
Nov 20 08:11:57 <EskimoBob>	he can do up to 4 issues per day
Nov 20 08:12:07 <EskimoBob>	and hi promised to update his blog too.
Nov 20 08:13:15 <EskimoBob>	gigavps was one of the first ones
Nov 20 08:15:02 <PsychoticBoy>	ok so if I understand this correctly, he delays it again with months if he only gives info to 4 ppl each day
Nov 20 08:15:15 <PsychoticBoy>	typical scammer actions
Nov 20 08:15:39 <PsychoticBoy>	He can keep my info
Nov 20 08:15:43 <PsychoticBoy>	f him
Nov 20 08:15:57 <PsychoticBoy>	he kept my btc so
Nov 20 08:16:11 <PsychoticBoy>	al
Nov 20 08:16:42 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy can you sign it over to me?  :)
Nov 20 08:16:50 <PsychoticBoy>	hahahaa
Nov 20 08:17:02 <EskimoBob>	I'll use your billions for good deeds only
Nov 20 08:17:06 <PsychoticBoy>	I should have kick him in the nuts when I had the chance in London
Nov 20 08:17:22 <PsychoticBoy>	hitman?
Nov 20 08:17:24 <PsychoticBoy>	;)
Nov 20 08:18:03 <PsychoticBoy>	lets rent a hitman on TOR
Nov 20 08:18:10 <PsychoticBoy>	Who`s in
Nov 20 08:18:21 <EskimoBob>	what about sending flowers?
Nov 20 08:18:35 <PsychoticBoy>	I ll send the casket
Nov 20 08:19:31 <PsychoticBoy>	Public James McCarthy Hitman rental pool: 19R1QWDSEYN8X3yLdJPpSbwnR8Ka3LEFxP  JOIN JOIN JOIN
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Nov 20 08:24:23 <jurov>	lol... btw, and i ran slow scan overnight on glbse server http://bitbin.it/QZ2AXOeI
Nov 20 08:24:36 <jurov>	no ssh port open , tho :/
Nov 20 08:28:57 <Temp_Kluge>	Assuming it was already said here, too -- Nef apparently released at least partial asset info to giga, so maybe there's a shot.
Nov 20 08:29:45 <Temp_Kluge>	Hopefully it's not just a list of people who filed a GLBSE claim and ticked the "send to Issuer" box.
Nov 20 08:30:24 <EskimoBob>	Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Securities > GOOD NEWS! GLBSE is sending out shareholders data  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126920.0
Nov 20 08:31:14 <EskimoBob>	fkn usagi is following me around the forum like a sick pervert.
Nov 20 08:31:39 <kakobreklaaa>	you poked him too much
Nov 20 08:31:42 <kakobreklaaa>	:>
Nov 20 08:31:54 <EskimoBob>	he probably wrote 33000 lines of code to get the alert
Nov 20 08:33:40 <EskimoBob>	kakobreklaaa: me poking this shitbird was really nothing. He got his ass kicked by multiple people and multiple time
Nov 20 08:34:10 <EskimoBob>	because he kept fucking up and ling over and over
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Nov 20 08:52:54 <gigavps>	why all the hostility in the channel
Nov 20 08:58:12 <Luceo>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126922.0 Let's raise $1500 for some of the world's poorest people through the Christmas Charity Raffle
Nov 20 09:02:24 <EskimoBob>	what hostility gigavps?
Nov 20 09:33:14 <gigavps>	PsychoticBoy is a little upset
Nov 20 09:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00050237 = 11.0019 BTC [-]
Nov 20 09:52:39 <PsychoticBoy>	yuuuuuuuuup I am upset, some ppl think they can do whatever they want with others property
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Nov 20 10:06:43 <Luceo>	Who's James McCarthy?
Nov 20 10:07:24 <EskimoBob>	Luceo: man who glbse'd you and others for a month or more
Nov 20 10:07:42 <Luceo>	Nefario?
Nov 20 10:10:13 <Luceo>	Fuck that guy
Nov 20 10:10:32 <EskimoBob>	yes, that is the one
Nov 20 10:15:34 <gigavps>	8 weeks
Nov 20 10:15:39 <gigavps>	we've been waiting
Nov 20 10:21:17 <jurov>	gigavps, i hope you don't rave prematurely
Nov 20 10:21:31 <jurov>	wait till you get really everytihng
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Nov 20 10:22:53 <EskimoBob>	now, if someone can squeeze that scumbag Trendon and make the BTC flow back to us...
Nov 20 10:23:18 <kakobreklaaa>	there is no btc there
Nov 20 10:23:29 <EskimoBob>	if not, hang this fucker and end it for good
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Nov 20 10:26:07 <gigavps>	jurov i'm not raving about anything
Nov 20 10:26:20 <gigavps>	this whole mess is just beginning
Nov 20 10:43:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00050237 = 5.2749 BTC [-]
Nov 20 10:43:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00050255 = 9.9254 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 11:09:49 <smickles>	13:11 < EskimoBob> no, I did not tell him that because he is actually releasing the sh info
Nov 20 11:09:52 <smickles>	13:11 < EskimoBob> 4 eq's got it last night and 4 will be released today and so on
Nov 20 11:09:55 <smickles>	13:11 < EskimoBob> he can do up to 4 issues per day
Nov 20 11:09:56 <mircea_popescu>	<EskimoBob> gigavps was one of the first ones wow ?!
Nov 20 11:10:05 <smickles>	what where?
Nov 20 11:10:16 <smickles>	why only 4 per day?
Nov 20 11:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you run things as # ?
Nov 20 11:12:56 <jurov>	no, just nmap requires it
Nov 20 11:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps : well done in the end.
Nov 20 11:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	sudo ?
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Nov 20 11:52:58 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: sudo is a command to run a command as root, if you have the permission to use it
Nov 20 11:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	read up lol
Nov 20 11:53:13 <smickles>	'Super User DO
Nov 20 11:53:24 <smickles>	oh
Nov 20 11:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Nov 20 11:53:31 <smickles>	'mkay
Nov 20 11:53:45 <smickles>	rhetorical question ftw
Nov 20 12:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	By 1927, only the richest 2% of taxpayers paid any federal income tax
Nov 20 12:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	ftr.
Nov 20 12:04:54 <smickles>	lol
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Nov 20 12:53:47 <Namjies>	So... apparently, nefario started to send out asset lists...
Nov 20 12:57:25 <Namjies>	Mircea, you might actually have to find someone to buy ASICMINER shares from.
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Nov 20 13:49:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00050268 = 5.4792 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 14:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10198 @ 0.00050268 = 5.1263 BTC [+]
Nov 20 14:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00050272 = 10.356 BTC [+]
Nov 20 14:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11852 @ 0.00050272 = 5.9582 BTC [+]
Nov 20 14:52:55 <dub>	<gigavps> this whole mess is just beginning
Nov 20 14:53:08 <dub>	science comes to -assets
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Nov 20 15:11:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1098 @ 0.00050272 = 0.552 BTC [+]
Nov 20 15:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10252 @ 0.00050278 = 5.1545 BTC [+]
Nov 20 15:34:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11348 @ 0.00050278 = 5.7055 BTC [+]
Nov 20 15:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5052 @ 0.00050278 = 2.54 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 15:41:49 <Ukto>	I was looking back on GLBSE's pricing.. "Sell fee rate, paid by seller: 0.5%" && "Buy fee rate, paid by seller:   0.5%" Couldn't that have just be written as "1% Fee paid by seller on instant orders" ?
Nov 20 15:42:42 <Ukto>	It just seems kinda messed up way to do it
Nov 20 15:45:11 <dub>	really? glbse did something stupid? surely not!
Nov 20 15:46:18 <Ukto>	lol :P
Nov 20 15:49:03 <dub>	be careful with these accusations, you wouldnt want to ruin nefario's reputation!
Nov 20 15:54:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10198 @ 0.00050278 = 5.1274 BTC [+]
Nov 20 15:54:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6102 @ 0.00050282 = 3.0682 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 16:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00050282 = 8.1457 BTC [+]
Nov 20 16:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 3300 @ 0.00280004 = 9.2401 BTC [-]
Nov 20 16:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18798 @ 0.00050282 = 9.452 BTC [+]
Nov 20 16:21:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00050287 = 10.6106 BTC [+]
Nov 20 16:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6592 @ 0.00050288 = 3.315 BTC [+]
Nov 20 16:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00050288 = 7.9958 BTC [+]
Nov 20 16:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6328 @ 0.00050262 = 3.1806 BTC [-]
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Nov 20 16:59:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24797 @ 0.00050247 = 12.4597 BTC [-]
Nov 20 16:59:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3458 @ 0.00050288 = 1.739 BTC [+]
Nov 20 16:59:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00050289 = 3.2185 BTC [+]
Nov 20 16:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17895 @ 0.000503 = 9.0012 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 17:20:51 <Guest26114>	any idea why this happens? its me mod6:
Nov 20 17:20:53 <Guest26114>	(14:18) [freenode]  (!) Nick mod6 is temporarily unavailable
Nov 20 17:21:13 <Guest26114>	i re-auth'd with nickserv.. but i can't seem to /nick mod6 successfully
Nov 20 17:21:27 <mircea_popescu>	need to ghost it
Nov 20 17:21:31 <Guest26114>	hmm, maybe just need to disconn
Nov 20 17:21:42 <mircea_popescu>	 /msg nickserv ghost mod6
Nov 20 17:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	then release it
Nov 20 17:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	then you can nick
Nov 20 17:22:57 <Guest26114>	weird
Nov 20 17:22:59 <Guest26114>	(14:22) -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- mod6 is not online.
Nov 20 17:23:07 <Guest26114>	ok, i'll just disconnect and reconnect.
Nov 20 17:23:08 <Guest26114>	weird
Nov 20 17:23:16 <Guest26114>	i totally didn't even know I wasn't auth'd then boom
Nov 20 17:23:26 <Guest26114>	im like Guest696969
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Nov 20 17:27:35 <jurov>	;;rate mircea_popescu 4 "has coolest btc enterprise and is really helpful"
Nov 20 17:27:36 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 4 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
Nov 20 17:27:55 <jurov>	i completely forgot i didn't rate you yet
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Nov 20 17:30:08 <mircea_popescu>	o hey. cool :D
Nov 20 17:31:19 <mod6>	yeah, its all good. i forgot about the nickserv 'release' command
Nov 20 17:31:22 <mod6>	heheheh
Nov 20 17:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	wb :p
Nov 20 17:32:54 <mod6>	:D thx!
Nov 20 17:33:16 <mod6>	it was like, your 30 seconds are up mod6. *BLOOOOOP*
Nov 20 17:35:04 <mod6>	im glad some of us are good this irc thing
Nov 20 17:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00050281 = 9.9305 BTC [-]
Nov 20 17:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126 @ 0.000503 = 0.0634 BTC [+]
Nov 20 17:35:43 <mod6>	i was like, "Ummmm"
Nov 20 17:36:08 <mod6>	RELEASE MY NICK?! WAIT DID SOMEONE TRY TO HAXoR ME?!
Nov 20 17:36:24 <mod6>	funny
Nov 20 17:37:43 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: still no word from rg/grubles
Nov 20 17:37:50 <mod6>	OH
Nov 20 17:38:16 <mircea_popescu>	smickles hm.
Nov 20 17:38:51 <mod6>	err, nm...  anyway. I also made a #BitOTTer channel for technical discussion
Nov 20 17:39:08 <mod6>	i figure, it'll keep my spam out of these trade channels :]
Nov 20 17:42:30 <mircea_popescu>	how;s it coming along ?
Nov 20 17:43:02 <mod6>	well, i've been workin on it quite a bit.
Nov 20 17:43:18 <mod6>	kinda not so ciked about the way this KeyStore thing is working out
Nov 20 17:44:25 <mod6>	or at least, its been a bit harder than I expected. i've done a bunch and it now creates a keystore (or loads an existing one)
Nov 20 17:44:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-]
Nov 20 17:45:13 <mod6>	basically takes a PublicKey and PrivateKey and stores them in a KeyPair object, when then can be used to create an X509 cert that can be then inserted and extracted from the KeyStore itself.
Nov 20 17:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 31 @ 0.09208812 = 2.8547 BTC [-]
Nov 20 17:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.000503 = 1.8002 BTC [+]
Nov 20 17:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22072 @ 0.000503 = 11.1022 BTC [+]
Nov 20 17:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2649 @ 0.00050303 = 1.3325 BTC [+]
Nov 20 17:46:54 <mod6>	anyway... its all technical stuff basically but... im having a hard time getting the private key back out for use
Nov 20 17:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	i c
Nov 20 17:47:25 <mod6>	many examples show how to makes this work, but not anylonger because the main way to do this is now deprecated
Nov 20 17:47:29 <mod6>	lol, joke is on mod6
Nov 20 17:48:38 <mod6>	so... im kinda thinking, this is way to much effort for just a first release, can I not just use a symmetric key algo to enc the privkey on the local filestore?
Nov 20 17:49:13 <mod6>	then just decrypt into memory when needed, but never writing it to disk.
Nov 20 17:50:26 <kakobreklaaa>	what is this about?
Nov 20 17:50:42 <mod6>	haha, see. its all good kakobreklaaa you don't need to worry.
Nov 20 17:50:52 <mod6>	just some technical bs about my bikeshed
Nov 20 17:51:34 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127007.0 looky! another one!
Nov 20 17:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	anyone wants to bet there will be > 100 new btc/fiat exchange websites in 2013?
Nov 20 17:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 i guess you could, as long as the user knows about this.
Nov 20 17:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	heck, the original wallet.dat was plaintext for > 1 year.
Nov 20 17:53:31 <jurov>	mod6, bitcoinspinner does not encrypt the keys at all
Nov 20 17:53:58 <mod6>	right on. no matter what happens, I'll make sure the PrivateKey ring file will be protected
Nov 20 17:54:43 <jurov>	and upon pointed to it, Jan proposed to have two keys on paper backup and alternate them
Nov 20 17:54:47 <mod6>	jurov: hmm! i didn't know that. they really should be just to save a guy if his device gets stolen or hacked.
Nov 20 17:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12251 @ 0.00050303 = 6.1626 BTC [+]
Nov 20 17:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21349 @ 0.00050304 = 10.7394 BTC [+]
Nov 20 17:55:48 <mod6>	I wanna make sure that if anyone uses BitOTTer that they know their key they put on the device is safe at lesat if the device is stolen or hacked
Nov 20 17:55:59 <jurov>	i started to be interested cause my phone got back from warranty prepair with  completely replaced mobo
Nov 20 17:56:05 <jurov>	*repair
Nov 20 17:56:26 <mod6>	i have a screen now where the user goes in and sets the private key for the KeyStore, etc.  but now I think I'm just gonna make that be the symmetric key for like AES or something
Nov 20 17:57:31 <mod6>	i've already got a java one written actually. heck, its even open source.
Nov 20 17:59:20 <mod6>	everything will be well documented in BitOTTer so the users will know what they are setting and what stuff means in the application
Nov 20 17:59:37 <mod6>	this will take some time, but I want to get this into the hands of a few people who'd like to test it before the end of the year.
Nov 20 18:00:04 <mod6>	its really getting close. i don't wanna let this damn keystore hold me back when I can just use something else.
Nov 20 18:00:37 <mod6>	anyway guys, I gotta run along to something else quick.  i'll try to save the elaborations on that for #BitOTTer in the future. thx.
Nov 20 18:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16901 @ 0.00050304 = 8.5019 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34556 @ 0.00050312 = 17.3858 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> and upon pointed to it, Jan proposed to have two keys on paper backup and alternate them << lol that one's good
Nov 20 18:15:56 <mod6>	ok. to be a bit more spacific, and the documentation will reflect this... i'll encrypt the private key on the local file store.
Nov 20 18:16:55 <mod6>	the users PGP PublicKey and MPEx PublicKey can stay as they are. no need to do anything with those at all.
Nov 20 18:17:50 <mod6>	the code can read them in either keyring format or ascii armor'd output format
Nov 20 18:18:05 <mod6>	base64
Nov 20 18:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	well ya public ketys are publioc
Nov 20 18:18:41 <mod6>	yeah, im not sure whatever Jan or whomever was talking about. just want to be clear about that I'm doing :)
Nov 20 18:20:36 <jurov>	here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53353.msg1343738#msg1343738
Nov 20 18:22:22 <mod6>	hmmm... well, this wont be a 6 digit pin like that
Nov 20 18:24:08 <mod6>	what I was thinking about using is currently a class that implements 256bit AES
Nov 20 18:24:53 <mod6>	use that... maybe in a future release i can get the keystore thing working better, or change it so the user might be able to select from a variety of different algos to use
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Nov 20 18:25:41 <jurov>	you want to improve over gpg passphrase? how?
Nov 20 18:25:57 <mod6>	huh? i think we misunderstand eachother
Nov 20 18:26:36 <mod6>	i don't want to replace the gpg passphrase... im saying that the user can set a seperate passphrase to encrypt the unencrypted privatekey file on the filestore
Nov 20 18:27:15 <jurov>	you may find useful to look into KeePass code than
Nov 20 18:27:21 <mod6>	then when the user goes to trade, they'll need to enter their passphrase to decrypt the encrypted private key stored on the file system so the application can decipher the return tx statements from mpex
Nov 20 18:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i think maybe what he means is, have a sluttysally and a properpolly code.
Nov 20 18:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	you usually keep the slut loaded, but periodically load the safe one and move coins there
Nov 20 18:28:52 <mod6>	im using spongy castle to read in the PGP keys, I then have to convert them to be able to use them outside of its context, it gets hairy
Nov 20 18:28:55 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like an awkward cold/hot wallet arrangement
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Nov 20 18:30:34 <mod6>	yeah, in this situation that im setting up for the user, the user will have to do this: 1) copy the 3 pgp keys onto the device
Nov 20 18:30:59 <mod6>	2) start BitOTTer and enter the path's to the keys.
Nov 20 18:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16838 @ 0.00050312 = 8.4715 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18162 @ 0.00050313 = 9.1378 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:31:20 <mod6>	3) set the seperate password for the private key
Nov 20 18:31:46 <mod6>	3a) encrypt private key and save output to localfile store
Nov 20 18:32:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22238 @ 0.00050313 = 11.1886 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9712 @ 0.00050314 = 4.8865 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:32:25 <mod6>	4) notify the user to delete unencrypted private key file
Nov 20 18:32:39 <mod6>	or the user could do it if so desired
Nov 20 18:33:19 <mod6>	i could write that in also... anyway. then the key will be safe... at least it'll be encrypted if the device is hacked/stolen
Nov 20 18:33:38 <jurov>	that means two mpex accts?
Nov 20 18:33:46 <mod6>	and then you can say, "THANKS MOD6!" instead of "FUUUUUUUUU MOD6!"
Nov 20 18:34:06 <mod6>	nope. just your 1 regular account.
Nov 20 18:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	jurov for bitcoinspinner ?!
Nov 20 18:34:38 <jurov>	what? we're talking about bitotter now, no?
Nov 20 18:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	i guess i got confused
Nov 20 18:35:08 <mod6>	currently to trade @ mpex you must be able to clearsign,and enrypt a message - decryption is helpful too!! - this requires the 3 keys I was talking about
Nov 20 18:35:27 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, mod6 : all this effort is not misplaced. I expect as bitcoins catch momentum that iphones/etc will be stolen for the btc content, much like wallets today
Nov 20 18:35:53 <mod6>	oh for sure. it'll be risky to probably keep any large amts on a mobile device
Nov 20 18:36:26 <mod6>	and your MPEx private key should be vastly important to you -- so trying to give the user a layer of extra protection
Nov 20 18:37:25 <mod6>	what i have code for now, and was trying to make work successfully was getting these three keys into a KeyStore for use as needed
Nov 20 18:37:53 <mod6>	but... hitting some issues with getting the private key back out -- hopefully I can whip up something different.
Nov 20 18:38:23 <mod6>	then put out that alpha release I've been talking about for forever.  once that happens, I can get some feed back from all the users and make good changes based upon feeback
Nov 20 18:38:34 <jurov>	yes, i appreciate that effort too
Nov 20 18:38:48 <mod6>	thanks :]
Nov 20 18:38:53 <mod6>	its been a lot of fun coding it.
Nov 20 18:39:00 <jurov>	and do you have some business model, too?
Nov 20 18:39:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3618 @ 0.00050314 = 1.8204 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:39:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14732 @ 0.00050315 = 7.4124 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:39:45 <jurov>	like, paid app with some extras
Nov 20 18:40:22 <mod6>	Well, I had been wrestling with this for a while, but what I thought would be a good idea was if people use me for the referal program at MPEx, they can get BitOTTer to download and also save some on the MPEx registration as I'll kick them back 2.5 BTC
Nov 20 18:41:17 <mod6>	at least that was what was planned a while ago. I want to kinda get a alpha/beta program going
Nov 20 18:41:52 <jurov>	of course, but it's necessary to collect ideas. i'd also suggest scripting ability for paid version
Nov 20 18:42:22 <mod6>	hmm. scripting?
Nov 20 18:42:32 <mod6>	sounds neat, but i'm not sure how you mean.
Nov 20 18:42:49 <mod6>	OH
Nov 20 18:42:53 <mod6>	like atomated trades?
Nov 20 18:43:03 <jurov>	yes maybe
Nov 20 18:43:20 <mod6>	I see... very exciting feature to be implemented for sure.
Nov 20 18:43:37 <mod6>	I plan to add charting and graphing and all kinds of neato stuff actually.
Nov 20 18:44:01 <mod6>	I honestly hope to turn BitOTTer into a fulltime thing if all goes well.
Nov 20 18:44:10 <jurov>	or at least periodic fetching of new transactions and notifying the user
Nov 20 18:44:18 <mod6>	oh for sure.
Nov 20 18:44:37 <mod6>	im so excited for the JSONSTAT cmd, thats the only other thing I need to implement really.
Nov 20 18:44:47 <mod6>	just a screen that displays the results from that
Nov 20 18:45:35 <mod6>	and then we have a first release. much more to go from there, but it'll allow a user to trade, send commands and see the VWAP and Depth
Nov 20 18:46:21 <mod6>	i'll be stoked to use it from the car, or wherever.  have you ever seen an MPEx trade fly by on twitter and wish you were home to but in a bid? lol
Nov 20 18:46:36 <mod6>	s/but/put/
Nov 20 18:48:24 <mod6>	thanks for your input jurov
Nov 20 18:49:09 <mod6>	i'm gonna run and grab some foodz0r
Nov 20 18:49:23 <jurov>	you're welcome. while i just login to coinbr and do stuff, having app would be nice.
Nov 20 18:49:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00050309 = 9.8606 BTC [-]
Nov 20 18:49:31 <mod6>	:)
Nov 20 18:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 in principle having a programmable bot with preset and also configurable strategies could be a nice add-on
Nov 20 18:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	not alpha material, but eventually.
Nov 20 18:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	also, accounting for the user.
Nov 20 18:50:04 <mod6>	ahh, ok.
Nov 20 18:50:28 <mod6>	sure..i see what you're getting at.  these are great things, looking forward to talking about that more as the time comes.
Nov 20 18:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	just letting you know that you're gonna be working on this well into 2015 lol
Nov 20 18:51:08 <mod6>	haha, thats awesome.
Nov 20 18:51:22 <jurov>	hehe yes.. and don't let your gpg keys expire :P
Nov 20 18:51:33 <mod6>	haha, i set mine to expire in ...
Nov 20 18:51:36 <mod6>	2014?
Nov 20 18:52:05 <mod6>	haha, i'll have to change the expiration or whatever, no big deal
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Nov 20 18:52:26 <mod6>	i guess in the past i've had other pgp keys, i think they just expired and I made new ones...
Nov 20 18:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 very big deal. mpex doesn't read the internets.
Nov 20 18:52:56 <mod6>	oh ok, I'll just have to make a new acct then.
Nov 20 18:53:02 <mod6>	no worries though.
Nov 20 18:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00050309 = 2.3645 BTC [-]
Nov 20 18:53:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17068 @ 0.00050315 = 8.5878 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:53:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30650 @ 0.0005032 = 15.4231 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16612 @ 0.00050329 = 8.3607 BTC [+]
Nov 20 18:53:38 <jurov>	50btc for a new acct may be a worry for some people
Nov 20 18:54:31 <jurov>	but not for us by 2014. i wholeheartedly agree.
Nov 20 18:54:36 <mod6>	yeah, mine expires in august of 2014
Nov 20 18:54:57 <mod6>	yeah, to be honest, i actually meant to make a new one like 50x before it went up to 30.
Nov 20 18:55:32 <mod6>	i just haven't because i guess i didn't wanna step on my own toes.
Nov 20 18:55:52 <mod6>	but my lazyness has cost me 1bn satoshi's
Nov 20 18:56:04 <mod6>	DONT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU, SIGN UP NAO
Nov 20 18:56:35 <mod6>	i better get one tonight and heed my own advice.
Nov 20 18:56:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 20 18:56:44 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: don't raise it before later tonight lol
Nov 20 18:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	ok.
Nov 20 18:57:10 <mod6>	ok cool. im gonna get some food. bbl
Nov 20 18:57:13 <mod6>	:D
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Nov 20 19:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17388 @ 0.00050329 = 8.7512 BTC [+]
Nov 20 19:00:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12512 @ 0.00050334 = 6.2978 BTC [+]
Nov 20 19:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1660 @ 0.00050334 = 0.8355 BTC [+]
Nov 20 19:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29314 @ 0.00050348 = 14.759 BTC [+]
Nov 20 19:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25137.msg311962#msg311962
Nov 20 19:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	offered in july 2011 for 100 btc, still for sale in  nov 2012 for... 100btc
Nov 20 19:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	take that, inflation.
Nov 20 19:27:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2686 @ 0.00050348 = 1.3523 BTC [+]
Nov 20 19:32:37 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: oh?
Nov 20 19:33:56 <Diablo-D3>	oh
Nov 20 19:33:58 <Diablo-D3>	its usagi
Nov 20 19:34:43 <mircea_popescu>	:)
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Nov 20 19:46:50 <Diablo-D3>	okay so
Nov 20 19:46:59 <Diablo-D3>	apparently basic will ship soon
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Nov 20 19:48:18 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if I can buy one
Nov 20 20:00:08 <Namjies>	mircea_popescu, read my earlier comment?
Nov 20 20:00:28 <Namjies>	[12:53] <Namjies> So... apparently, nefario started to send out asset lists...
Nov 20 20:00:28 <Namjies>	[12:57] <Namjies> Mircea, you might actually have to find someone to buy ASICMINER shares from.
Nov 20 20:01:41 <Diablo-D3>	no
Nov 20 20:01:58 <Diablo-D3>	friedcat wants to setup an exchange just for his assets
Nov 20 20:02:20 <Diablo-D3>	so he wont have to FIND them
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Nov 20 20:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8014 @ 0.00050348 = 4.0349 BTC [+]
Nov 20 20:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12086 @ 0.00050347 = 6.0849 BTC [-]
Nov 20 20:08:09 <Namjies>	Well works too...
Nov 20 20:08:47 <Namjies>	If shares don't start being traded between people/on an exchange again, I was kissing goodbye to over 1000 Asicminer shares
Nov 20 20:08:57 <Namjies>	on december the 19th
Nov 20 20:10:07 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies hehe maybe so.
Nov 20 20:10:18 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: er, kissing goodbye?
Nov 20 20:10:19 <Diablo-D3>	why?
Nov 20 20:10:31 <Diablo-D3>	the shares dont go away because you cant trade them
Nov 20 20:10:41 <mircea_popescu>	a debatable point.
Nov 20 20:10:56 <Diablo-D3>	no I mean friedcat is already honoring them even without the lists
Nov 20 20:11:18 <Namjies>	I had a contract with Mircea, he borrowed shares
Nov 20 20:11:29 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 this is about a private deal, not much to do with friedcat really.
Nov 20 20:11:44 <Diablo-D3>	oh, so you two just fucked shit up? lol.
Nov 20 20:12:20 <Namjies>	No, the deal said should shares no longer be tradeable, a token payment of 1 BTC would be offered.
Nov 20 20:12:37 <Namjies>	It was a clause in the contract.
Nov 20 20:12:55 <Diablo-D3>	or...
Nov 20 20:13:00 <Diablo-D3>	about a tenth what they're worth
Nov 20 20:13:01 <mircea_popescu>	actually it said "discontinued or no longer traded"
Nov 20 20:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	polimedia.us/bitcoin/mphf.txt you can read it there.
Nov 20 20:13:26 <Namjies>	Would you like to debate the point right away Mircea?
Nov 20 20:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Nov 20 20:14:07 <Diablo-D3>	I think you have to wait to see what friedcat is going to do first
Nov 20 20:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	what's to debate ? just pointed out what the contract said.
Nov 20 20:14:22 <Namjies>	Aye.
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Nov 20 20:14:46 <Diablo-D3>	okay so, did friedcat do preorders for his shit? or is he just selling them straight?
Nov 20 20:15:08 <Namjies>	preorders?
Nov 20 20:15:26 <Diablo-D3>	yes, like bfl and basic and avalon has
Nov 20 20:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	he did a 200k offering at .1 each dont you remember ?
Nov 20 20:16:23 <Namjies>	Did he sell the whole 20000 shares to get 200k?
Nov 20 20:16:33 <Namjies>	200000*
Nov 20 20:16:54 <Namjies>	Can't remember
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Nov 20 20:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13854 @ 0.00050347 = 6.9751 BTC [-]
Nov 20 20:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	iirc it was eventually sold out.
Nov 20 20:17:48 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: yes
Nov 20 20:17:55 <Diablo-D3>	Im not talking the shares here
Nov 20 20:17:59 <Diablo-D3>	Im talking the actual mining units
Nov 20 20:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	he was planning to never sekll them
Nov 20 20:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	just mine
Nov 20 20:19:11 <Diablo-D3>	thats not true
Nov 20 20:19:14 <Diablo-D3>	he plans on selling them
Nov 20 20:20:31 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Nov 20 20:20:49 <Diablo-D3>	yes, just not as a full time thing for the first batch
Nov 20 20:21:10 <Namjies>	It's a mix. Self-mining and selling units.
Nov 20 20:21:28 <kakobreklaaa>	Milkshake.
Nov 20 20:21:30 <Namjies>	ASICMINER shares get their .10 paid in dividends in full first from all profits.
Nov 20 20:21:45 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Nov 20 20:21:55 <Diablo-D3>	but Im still interested in buying units
Nov 20 20:22:02 <Namjies>	Then it's shared. I don't remember what percentage of the profits the shares actually represent.
Nov 20 20:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00050344 = 6.3182 BTC [-]
Nov 20 20:25:34 <mircea_popescu>	half was it ?
Nov 20 20:26:04 <Diablo-D3>	no, more than half
Nov 20 20:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00050344 = 3.8261 BTC [-]
Nov 20 20:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6805 @ 0.00050344 = 3.4259 BTC [-]
Nov 20 20:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6395 @ 0.00050355 = 3.2202 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 21:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00050355 = 10.4235 BTC [+]
Nov 20 21:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9255 @ 0.00050355 = 4.6604 BTC [+]
Nov 20 21:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5395 @ 0.00050362 = 2.717 BTC [+]
Nov 20 21:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/a-message-to-bitcoin-wanna-be-scammers/
Nov 20 21:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	here's one that should prolly be passed around a bit.
Nov 20 21:18:49 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: not just pies in face, the SEC are after him
Nov 20 21:21:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35555 @ 0.00050362 = 17.9062 BTC [+]
Nov 20 21:21:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11083 @ 0.00050362 = 5.5816 BTC [+]
Nov 20 21:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Nov 20 21:22:09 <smickles>	lol, 3rd most view page on my blog... /xmlrpc.php
Nov 20 21:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	usually the case
Nov 20 21:23:20 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: I actually have an interview with the SEC folks coming up next week, I offered to give them any info I have
Nov 20 21:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Nov 20 21:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	kinda makes the entire point strongert
Nov 20 21:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	you don't just get pies in the face, you get pies in the ass too.
Nov 20 21:26:28 <smickles>	those would be cream pies?
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Nov 20 21:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	yes. mancream.
Nov 20 21:37:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2917 @ 0.00050362 = 1.4691 BTC [+]
Nov 20 21:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00050365 = 6.3208 BTC [+]
Nov 20 21:45:19 <Azelphur>	hehe
Nov 20 21:47:41 <Azelphur>	math question, if I'm arbitrating bitcoins, and I have a database with all my trades in it (buy and sell) how do I calculate my profits? is it the difference between average rate * total amount on buy and sell orders?
Nov 20 21:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	well no ?
Nov 20 21:48:11 <Azelphur>	:(
Nov 20 21:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	balance of your btc position start and end + balance of your fiat position start and end
Nov 20 21:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	- all you paid for btc added together + all you were paid for btc added togheter
Nov 20 21:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27331 @ 0.00050372 = 13.7672 BTC [+]
Nov 20 21:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	all this in the same currency of account.
Nov 20 21:49:06 <Azelphur>	I don't keep business accounts separate from personal, so that ain't gonna work :P
Nov 20 21:49:33 <mircea_popescu>	then your averages might give you a rough idea.
Nov 20 21:49:41 <Azelphur>	fun
Nov 20 21:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	but!
Nov 20 21:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	you make the averages, substract one from the other
Nov 20 21:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	then multiply with the smaller of the two volumes
Nov 20 21:50:05 <Azelphur>	yea, that's what I was planning on doing
Nov 20 21:50:12 <mircea_popescu>	aite.
Nov 20 21:50:48 <Azelphur>	sum(sell_rate)/num(sell_rate) * sell_total_amount - sum(buy_rate)/num(buy_rate) * buy_total_amount
Nov 20 21:51:03 <Azelphur>	was what I was thinking would yield the answer :P
Nov 20 21:51:46 <mircea_popescu>	tsk. i just said that's not it
Nov 20 21:51:56 <Azelphur>	oh o.O
Nov 20 21:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	(sum(sell_rate)/num(sell_rate) -  sum(buy_rate)/num) * min (buy, sell ammts)
Nov 20 21:52:36 <Azelphur>	I see
Nov 20 21:57:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://io9.com/5959762/scientists-demonstrate-perfect-invisibility-cloak-in-the-lab
Nov 20 21:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	holy.
Nov 20 21:59:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00050372 = 5.4905 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 22:01:23 <MrTiggr>	its only microwave invisibility though isnt it ? not visible spectrum ... and only centimetre or less sized items
Nov 20 22:01:37 <MrTiggr>	if thats the same article i read ;)
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Nov 20 22:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8382 @ 0.00050372 = 4.2222 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8568 @ 0.0005038 = 4.3166 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:09:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37100 @ 0.0005038 = 18.691 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.0005038 = 6.7761 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 22:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	MrTiggr yea.
Nov 20 22:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 982 @ 0.0005038 = 0.4947 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:28:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27988 @ 0.00050382 = 14.1009 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:28:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4882 @ 0.00050397 = 2.4604 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:35:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5237 @ 0.00050397 = 2.6393 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00050398 = 4.3846 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:35:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13513 @ 0.00050399 = 6.8104 BTC [+]
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Nov 20 22:43:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22287 @ 0.00050399 = 11.2324 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14745 @ 0.00050399 = 7.4313 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:50:03 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/society/the-need-to-know-why/ << if you want to read more of my writing
Nov 20 22:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17335 @ 0.00050399 = 8.7367 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22346 @ 0.00050399 = 11.2622 BTC [+]
Nov 20 22:55:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7704 @ 0.00050404 = 3.8831 BTC [+]
Nov 20 23:02:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00050367 = 8.7639 BTC [-]
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Nov 20 23:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	smickles : i got two trackbacks, one from https
Nov 20 23:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	which has a bad certificate to boot.
Nov 20 23:20:06 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: huh, it must do one automatically, and the https i have set up is just for me
Nov 20 23:20:19 <smickles>	so i don't broadcast my password in the clear
Nov 20 23:20:25 <mircea_popescu>	ya well... better look into it maybe ?
Nov 20 23:20:36 <smickles>	it's self signed?
Nov 20 23:21:07 <smickles>	i sent a track back manually, prolly the https one, i'll refrain in the future ;)
Nov 20 23:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	hehe it's not signed in any way, it's just a trackback that links to a https address
Nov 20 23:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	prolly was the manual one.
Nov 20 23:22:26 <mircea_popescu>	and i'm awaiting moderation!!1
Nov 20 23:23:02 <smickles>	heh, moderated mircea_popescu
Nov 20 23:23:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15731 @ 0.00050401 = 7.9286 BTC [+]
Nov 20 23:40:49 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i can sign and send you the cert to import if you are actually concerned about the state of https on my blog ;)
Nov 20 23:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34787 @ 0.00050392 = 17.5299 BTC [-]
Nov 20 23:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14713 @ 0.00050394 = 7.4145 BTC [+]
Nov 20 23:45:35 <smickles>	;;google smickles
Nov 20 23:45:36 <gribble>	Urban Dictionary: proper smickles: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=proper%20smickles>; Mike Carver (smickles) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/smickles>; smickles (Michael Carver) · GitHub: <https://github.com/smickles>
Nov 20 23:45:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2927 @ 0.00050394 = 1.475 BTC [+]
Nov 20 23:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11823 @ 0.00050401 = 5.9589 BTC [+]
Nov 20 23:45:49 <smickles>	not yet, but front page already
Nov 20 23:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 20 23:57:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20896 @ 0.00050401 = 10.5318 BTC [+]
Nov 20 23:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3154 @ 0.00050404 = 1.5897 BTC [+]
Nov 21 00:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10792 @ 0.00050404 = 5.4396 BTC [+]
Nov 21 00:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7108 @ 0.00050405 = 3.5828 BTC [+]
Nov 21 00:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1133 @ 0.00050367 = 0.5707 BTC [-]
Nov 21 00:10:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22367 @ 0.00050349 = 11.2616 BTC [-]
Nov 21 00:20:30 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87094.msg1338178#msg1338178 << day after day of selling out of coins
Nov 21 00:24:40 <Azelphur>	smickles: http://blog.glbse.com/issuers-being-given-shareholder-lists :O
Nov 21 00:24:40 <Azelphur>	woot
Nov 21 00:25:12 <smickles>	Azelphur: yeah, good news :)
Nov 21 00:25:22 <smickles>	too bad it didn't come much earlier
Nov 21 00:25:41 <smickles>	it would've been a lot less drama and bullshit
Nov 21 00:26:04 <smickles>	and I don't understand the limit of 3-4 per day
Nov 21 00:26:22 <Azelphur>	me either
Nov 21 00:26:27 <smickles>	also, his metric for 'largest assets' is probably wonked
Nov 21 00:31:11 <Azelphur>	true, but at 3-4 a day you can't be too far down the list
Nov 21 00:31:15 <Azelphur>	there isn't exactly that many assets
Nov 21 00:31:47 <smickles>	Azelphur: actually, if he's using the same sort that he used to display the full asset list, it'll be well over a week till us
Nov 21 00:32:06 *	Azelphur shrugs
Nov 21 00:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00050401 = 7.1065 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 00:45:36 <mircea_popescu>	afaik only giga's were released no ?
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Nov 21 00:49:38 <smickles>	that's all i've seen of it
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Nov 21 00:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00050403 = 5.3931 BTC [+]
Nov 21 00:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00050405 = 2.8227 BTC [+]
Nov 21 00:58:15 <dub>	its like pirate paying out a few accounts
Nov 21 00:58:38 <dub>	netardio will only release giga data
Nov 21 00:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12927 @ 0.00050405 = 6.5159 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:03:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6065 @ 0.00050405 = 3.0571 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16785 @ 0.00050406 = 8.4606 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:14:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00050401 = 8.5178 BTC [-]
Nov 21 01:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 815 @ 0.00050406 = 0.4108 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13505 @ 0.00050407 = 6.8075 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7080 @ 0.00050408 = 3.5689 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:22:17 <Namjies>	He's paid most balances so far and it's day one of releasing account data...
Nov 21 01:23:50 <Namjies>	Can't people wait...
Nov 21 01:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00050408 = 14.2151 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 01:39:36 <smickles>	Namjies: haven't we been waiting?
Nov 21 01:51:32 <Namjies>	yes...
Nov 21 01:51:52 <Namjies>	but he made that claim a few hours after Gigamining's list gets disclosed...
Nov 21 01:52:06 <Namjies>	In any case
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Nov 21 01:52:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8020 @ 0.00050408 = 4.0427 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00050411 = 5.52 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00050411 = 12.6532 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18141 @ 0.00050413 = 9.1454 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:53:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8459 @ 0.00050413 = 4.2644 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:54:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.0005042 = 7.8655 BTC [+]
Nov 21 01:54:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6591 @ 0.00050425 = 3.3235 BTC [+]
Nov 21 02:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21809 @ 0.00050425 = 10.9972 BTC [+]
Nov 21 02:08:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27441 @ 0.00050431 = 13.8388 BTC [+]
Nov 21 02:12:02 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/#update_21nov12
Nov 21 02:12:08 <smickles>	Update :D
Nov 21 02:17:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19559 @ 0.00050431 = 9.8638 BTC [+]
Nov 21 02:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10119 @ 0.00050431 = 5.1031 BTC [+]
Nov 21 02:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12398 @ 0.00050431 = 6.2524 BTC [+]
Nov 21 02:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4866 @ 0.00050431 = 2.454 BTC [+]
Nov 21 02:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31756 @ 0.00050431 = 16.0149 BTC [+]
Nov 21 02:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11044 @ 0.00050432 = 5.5697 BTC [+]
Nov 21 02:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16056 @ 0.00050432 = 8.0974 BTC [+]
Nov 21 02:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20444 @ 0.00050441 = 10.3122 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00050441 = 7.8688 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 03:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00050441 = 7.3896 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16465 @ 0.00050441 = 8.3051 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8007 @ 0.00050443 = 4.039 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:41:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9943 @ 0.00050443 = 5.0155 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:41:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29497 @ 0.00050444 = 14.8795 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:41:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10460 @ 0.00050444 = 5.2764 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 03:46:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4190 @ 0.00050444 = 2.1136 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:46:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13260 @ 0.00050446 = 6.6891 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:50:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18984 @ 0.00050446 = 9.5767 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16490 @ 0.0005045 = 8.3192 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33960 @ 0.0005045 = 17.1328 BTC [+]
Nov 21 03:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11819 @ 0.0005046 = 5.9639 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 04:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12747 @ 0.0005046 = 6.4321 BTC [+]
Nov 21 04:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7834 @ 0.0005046 = 3.953 BTC [+]
Nov 21 04:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24093 @ 0.00050463 = 12.1581 BTC [+]
Nov 21 04:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00050463 = 7.8218 BTC [+]
Nov 21 04:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18362 @ 0.00050464 = 9.2662 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 04:16:44 <Diablo-D3>	so, whos the most reliable exchange now?
Nov 21 04:19:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15438 @ 0.00050464 = 7.7906 BTC [+]
Nov 21 04:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14362 @ 0.00050467 = 7.2481 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 04:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34098 @ 0.00050467 = 17.2082 BTC [+]
Nov 21 04:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15602 @ 0.00050468 = 7.874 BTC [+]
Nov 21 04:42:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11471 @ 0.00050468 = 5.7892 BTC [+]
Nov 21 04:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1329 @ 0.00050477 = 0.6708 BTC [+]
Nov 21 05:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00050434 = 9.8851 BTC [-]
Nov 21 05:07:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34150 @ 0.0005043 = 17.2218 BTC [-]
Nov 21 05:07:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10569 @ 0.00050476 = 5.3348 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 05:19:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7905 @ 0.00050476 = 3.9901 BTC [+]
Nov 21 05:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11245 @ 0.00050477 = 5.6761 BTC [+]
Nov 21 05:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22251 @ 0.00050477 = 11.2316 BTC [+]
Nov 21 05:24:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8349 @ 0.0005048 = 4.2146 BTC [+]
Nov 21 05:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.0005048 = 10.626 BTC [+]
Nov 21 05:27:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12581 @ 0.00050484 = 6.3514 BTC [+]
Nov 21 05:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00050493 = 8.8615 BTC [+]
Nov 21 05:27:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3769 @ 0.00050498 = 1.9033 BTC [+]
Nov 21 05:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26413 @ 0.00050462 = 13.3285 BTC [-]
Nov 21 05:48:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4187 @ 0.00050462 = 2.1128 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 05:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33531 @ 0.00050498 = 16.9325 BTC [+]
Nov 21 05:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6669 @ 0.00050501 = 3.3679 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 06:00:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9431 @ 0.00050501 = 4.7627 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17951 @ 0.00050502 = 9.0656 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8468 @ 0.00050503 = 4.2766 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26332 @ 0.00050503 = 13.2984 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25468 @ 0.00050503 = 12.8621 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12432 @ 0.00050503 = 6.2785 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6456 @ 0.00050504 = 3.2605 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:12:56 <jurov>	lol the stuff that did surface tonight. MPHF? Mircea giving advice to scammers?
Nov 21 06:14:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37944 @ 0.00050504 = 19.1632 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:14:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4556 @ 0.00050506 = 2.3011 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:17:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17772 @ 0.00050506 = 8.9759 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12429 @ 0.00050506 = 6.2774 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:26:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21516 @ 0.00050507 = 10.8671 BTC [+]
Nov 21 06:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19163 @ 0.00050497 = 9.6767 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 06:50:56 <jurov>	Diablo-D3, i like bitstamp
Nov 21 06:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13k4vx/a_message_to_bitcoin_wannabe_scammers/
Nov 21 06:51:35 <jurov>	did not collect statically significant data on reliability, tho :P
Nov 21 06:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	every1 plz voet!!!one
Nov 21 06:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	jurov seems pretty much everyone likes bitstamp, unless they fuck up they'll be #2 in short order.
Nov 21 06:52:35 <jurov>	*statistically [derp]
Nov 21 06:54:02 <jurov>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-circlejerk/ is also reddit-worthy material :D
Nov 21 06:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 21 06:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	the problem i think is if each trilema article ends up there they'll prolly ban me or something
Nov 21 06:58:05 <jurov>	hehe... no reason to. Unless all articles were submitted by the same user, which isn't the case.
Nov 21 06:58:18 <Diablo-D3>	well
Nov 21 06:58:26 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Nov 21 06:58:26 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno
Nov 21 06:58:29 <Diablo-D3>	I dont want DMC to die, really
Nov 21 06:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i'm no expert, jus' sayin'.
Nov 21 06:59:18 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 how many glbse assets you figure will get 0 claims ?
Nov 21 06:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	as in, nobody of the people who sent email of w/e had any shares in them
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Nov 21 07:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1348455#msg1348455 << deprived is pretty much the official usagi body slam community representative.
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Nov 21 07:10:36 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: who knows
Nov 21 07:10:49 <Diablo-D3>	btw, is this when I cut off valid claims?
Nov 21 07:10:58 <Diablo-D3>	like, when I get the list, is that the final defacto list and if you're not on it you're boned?
Nov 21 07:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23427 @ 0.00050449 = 11.8187 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	that question is thorny.
Nov 21 07:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno what to say. if you get the list, someone not on it throws a shitfit and claims nefario made a mistake i literally do not know what i'd do.
Nov 21 07:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	i suppose it's one of those things gigavps is paying counsel for.
Nov 21 07:12:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3323 @ 0.00050449 = 1.6764 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:12:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.00050454 = 16.3219 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:12:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00050473 = 5.0473 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:12:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9537 @ 0.00050484 = 4.8147 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:12:51 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, I dont know what to do either
Nov 21 07:12:53 <Diablo-D3>	because I hired nefario to do a job
Nov 21 07:12:56 <Diablo-D3>	and he didnt do it
Nov 21 07:13:05 <Diablo-D3>	and then everyone jumped up my ass on the thread because I said exactly that
Nov 21 07:13:42 <Diablo-D3>	the contract with glbse was between dmc and glbse, he was paid x btc to register the asset.
Nov 21 07:13:54 <Diablo-D3>	the moment he closed doors he was in default of that contract
Nov 21 07:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	well maybe.
Nov 21 07:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	it's not clear what exactly the contract was, but probably what you say can be claimed as an implicit agreement
Nov 21 07:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be a duty of care / fiduciary breach not a contract breach
Nov 21 07:18:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.000505 = 6.0095 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:18:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3734 @ 0.00050507 = 1.8859 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9316 @ 0.0005051 = 4.7055 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:18:24 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: same difference in the end
Nov 21 07:18:36 <Diablo-D3>	and I cant sue him because DMC just doesnt have the resources for that
Nov 21 07:18:53 <Diablo-D3>	Im glad giga scared him straight, none of the rest of us have the money for it
Nov 21 07:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	tbh : he as far as we know gave "sort-of" a list to giga
Nov 21 07:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	and nobody else
Nov 21 07:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	it's been 2-3 days, there's not 12 assets released.
Nov 21 07:19:29 <mircea_popescu>	so...
Nov 21 07:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	this may all be premature. not saying it is, just... you know, nefario.
Nov 21 07:20:04 <Diablo-D3>	yeah =/
Nov 21 07:20:18 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if I should just go start dmc 2.0 and try again
Nov 21 07:20:36 <Diablo-D3>	just let the dmc 1.0 shit sit in a seperate legal container all by itself
Nov 21 07:22:00 <Diablo-D3>	I dont know though
Nov 21 07:22:16 <Diablo-D3>	like, they say when doing the tech startup game, you're supposed to get right back on the horse
Nov 21 07:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the bar to attract finance has raised considerably
Nov 21 07:26:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16234 @ 0.0005051 = 8.1998 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31151 @ 0.0005051 = 15.7344 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:26:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7592 @ 0.00050511 = 3.8348 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:27:21 <Diablo-D3>	I dont think I want shareholders this time
Nov 21 07:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6540 @ 0.00050492 = 3.3022 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00050412 = 12.7542 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:29:04 <mircea_popescu>	well then that's a different story.
Nov 21 07:29:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00050405 = 7.9136 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:29:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17575 @ 0.00050401 = 8.858 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:29:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22783 @ 0.00050377 = 11.4774 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5665 @ 0.0005037 = 2.8535 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:29:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00050347 = 16.9921 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00050341 = 7.4001 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7987 @ 0.0005032 = 4.0191 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:30:34 <Diablo-D3>	well, whats wrong with doing bonds with maturity dates like 5 years from now?
Nov 21 07:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00050511 = 10.4305 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:38:06 <mircea_popescu>	bonds are usually based on something.
Nov 21 07:38:16 <mircea_popescu>	junk bonds i guess. it's how las vegas was built.
Nov 21 07:38:30 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, but we need something
Nov 21 07:38:42 <Diablo-D3>	digitally signed bonds could work
Nov 21 07:39:08 <Diablo-D3>	like, people buy them, I send them a pgp signed blob
Nov 21 07:39:19 <Diablo-D3>	and then they can sell them to other people if they want
Nov 21 07:39:34 <Diablo-D3>	and whoever has them by the date of maturity can send them back to me for payment
Nov 21 07:40:04 <Diablo-D3>	no need for an exchange in any real sense
Nov 21 07:42:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: so Im thinking a non-callable zero-coupon bond
Nov 21 07:42:20 <Diablo-D3>	makes it nice and simple
Nov 21 07:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	what sense does that make ? he who sent the blob can still claim on it
Nov 21 07:49:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24658 @ 0.00050511 = 12.455 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:49:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19292 @ 0.0005052 = 9.7463 BTC [+]
Nov 21 07:55:52 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but they'd need to also pgp sign it notating who it was sent to
Nov 21 07:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	that'll be fun, if one blob makes it through 50-100 people.
Nov 21 07:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29529 @ 0.00050432 = 14.8921 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:57:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18371 @ 0.0005032 = 9.2443 BTC [-]
Nov 21 07:57:54 <Diablo-D3>	well, it wouldnt be a problem
Nov 21 07:58:26 <Diablo-D3>	you'd sign the signed message to do it
Nov 21 07:58:29 <Diablo-D3>	so I'd just write a sh script that just keeps running pgp over and over
Nov 21 07:58:41 <Diablo-D3>	stripping away each layer
Nov 21 07:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Nov 21 07:59:35 <mircea_popescu>	kinda makes it hard for the 50th user to see if the thing he's being sold is valid.
Nov 21 07:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	esp if he can't write code.
Nov 21 08:00:01 <Diablo-D3>	I'd just put a page up somewhere that does it
Nov 21 08:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	that may be worth doing just on general principle.
Nov 21 08:00:16 <Diablo-D3>	upload your text file, it recursively pgps
Nov 21 08:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be a decent utility to have in general.
Nov 21 08:00:31 <kakobreklaaa>	heh bitstamp yea
Nov 21 08:00:35 <kakobreklaaa>	its a good bait
Nov 21 08:00:47 <kakobreklaaa>	i know im safe as long nobody is going after them
Nov 21 08:00:50 <Diablo-D3>	actually, I wonder if pgp already can recursively check
Nov 21 08:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik
Nov 21 08:01:01 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaaa how do you mean ?
Nov 21 08:01:14 <kakobreklaaa>	well
Nov 21 08:01:54 <kakobreklaaa>	if someone sticks a nose in and tries to tax em or whatever simmilar
Nov 21 08:02:03 <kakobreklaaa>	i will smell trouble before it hits me
Nov 21 08:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1742 @ 0.0005032 = 0.8766 BTC [-]
Nov 21 08:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5960 @ 0.00050307 = 2.9983 BTC [-]
Nov 21 08:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22898 @ 0.00050307 = 11.5193 BTC [-]
Nov 21 08:02:32 <kakobreklaaa>	same country and shit
Nov 21 08:02:45 <kakobreklaaa>	and there is no regulation about it ofc.
Nov 21 08:02:59 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, I dont think I have to worry about legal regulations on issuing these bonds
Nov 21 08:03:21 <kakobreklaaa>	well bitstamp is operating with eur and usd
Nov 21 08:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	o, they're in slovakia ?
Nov 21 08:03:43 <kakobreklaaa>	slovenia
Nov 21 08:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	a a sorry.
Nov 21 08:04:16 <Diablo-D3>	its up to the bond holder to report his taxes, right?
Nov 21 08:04:16 <kakobreklaaa>	remember, i was at that connference in slovenia
Nov 21 08:04:20 <kakobreklaaa>	where they showed up
Nov 21 08:04:24 <kakobreklaaa>	kids
Nov 21 08:05:30 <Diablo-D3>	hrm hey mircea_popescu
Nov 21 08:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	o yea.
Nov 21 08:05:45 <Diablo-D3>	you do pass through shit on mpex right?
Nov 21 08:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	depends what you mean by that.
Nov 21 08:06:41 <Diablo-D3>	well like, what would stop you from buying, say, 50 thousand bonds, and then issuing 50 thousand shares of passthrough?
Nov 21 08:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	stop me ? nothing'd stop me.
Nov 21 08:07:23 <mircea_popescu>	i am unstoppable.
Nov 21 08:07:39 <Diablo-D3>	you know what I mean though
Nov 21 08:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	not rly ?
Nov 21 08:07:59 <Diablo-D3>	well, would it be a viable way of doing this
Nov 21 08:08:06 <Diablo-D3>	multiple exchanges could trade the bonds as passthrough shares
Nov 21 08:08:28 <Diablo-D3>	so no need to do massive pgp chains since they'd never exit the exchange
Nov 21 08:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	in principle.
Nov 21 08:09:10 <Diablo-D3>	I like the multiple exchange part
Nov 21 08:10:16 <jurov>	whole pgp chain thing has one problem, i can send the same bonds properly signed to two different people
Nov 21 08:10:27 <jurov>	how do they verify no one other has them?
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Nov 21 08:10:42 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: they cant.
Nov 21 08:11:40 <jurov>	moving to that exchange level doesn't really solve that. the exchanges must trust each other anyway
Nov 21 08:12:23 <Diablo-D3>	well, the exchanges probably wouldnt buy or sell them beyond the initial asset creation
Nov 21 08:13:29 <jurov>	"probably"... even if they are honest, what if clients want to do arbitrage?
Nov 21 08:13:44 <Diablo-D3>	assets do not need to have that.
Nov 21 08:15:25 <jurov>	orly? you say that like we exhausted all options, that is not the case. you can look into opentransactions or colored coins maybe.
Nov 21 08:15:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19508 @ 0.0005052 = 9.8554 BTC [+]
Nov 21 08:15:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18795 @ 0.00050531 = 9.4973 BTC [+]
Nov 21 08:15:49 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Nov 21 08:15:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00050542 = 11.1698 BTC [+]
Nov 21 08:15:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24426 @ 0.00050542 = 12.3454 BTC [+]
Nov 21 08:15:50 <Diablo-D3>	actually
Nov 21 08:16:03 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if you COULD do a bitcoin chain that does bonds
Nov 21 08:19:27 <kakobreklaaa>	i'm bond, bitcoin bond.
Nov 21 08:19:37 <Diablo-D3>	no mr bond, I want you to die.
Nov 21 08:19:47 <kakobreklaaa>	:(
Nov 21 08:20:02 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Nov 21 08:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21183 @ 0.00050542 = 10.7063 BTC [+]
Nov 21 08:21:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00050561 = 6.9774 BTC [+]
Nov 21 08:21:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7843 @ 0.00050996 = 3.9996 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 08:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32100 @ 0.00051225 = 16.4432 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 08:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7465 @ 0.00051225 = 3.8239 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 08:45:32 <jurov>	s.mpoe whooops
Nov 21 08:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31215 @ 0.00051319 = 16.0192 BTC [+]
Nov 21 08:52:03 <mircea_popescu>	did i miss something ?
Nov 21 08:52:19 <mircea_popescu>	jeez it's heating up isnt it.
Nov 21 08:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4220 @ 0.00051319 = 2.1657 BTC [+]
Nov 21 08:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 909 @ 0.00051143 = 0.4649 BTC [-]
Nov 21 08:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00050367 = 20.7008 BTC [-]
Nov 21 08:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9155 @ 0.00050307 = 4.6056 BTC [-]
Nov 21 08:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if colored coins are racist.
Nov 21 09:02:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00051 = 4.284 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 09:48:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00050604 = 7.5147 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 09:57:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00051 = 21.93 BTC [+]
Nov 21 10:02:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00050604 = 6.0725 BTC [-]
Nov 21 10:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7306 @ 0.00050371 = 3.6801 BTC [-]
Nov 21 10:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12576 @ 0.00050307 = 6.3266 BTC [-]
Nov 21 10:15:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6380 @ 0.00050307 = 3.2096 BTC [-]
Nov 21 10:15:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19270 @ 0.00050303 = 9.6934 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 10:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26859 @ 0.00050303 = 13.5109 BTC [-]
Nov 21 10:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8841 @ 0.0005027 = 4.4444 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 10:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00050526 = 4.7494 BTC [+]
Nov 21 10:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32450 @ 0.00051 = 16.5495 BTC [+]
Nov 21 10:49:14 <kakobreklaaa>	case you missed it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127096.0
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Nov 21 10:51:40 <JWU42>	does he really have this much free time on his hands?
Nov 21 10:51:55 <JWU42>	amazing
Nov 21 10:52:01 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL_azA78Hi0
Nov 21 10:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11234 @ 0.0005027 = 5.6473 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 11:09:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7375 @ 0.0005027 = 3.7074 BTC [-]
Nov 21 11:09:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18125 @ 0.00050234 = 9.1049 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 11:16:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00050234 = 10.4487 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 11:29:50 <jcpham>	OH SHIT THIS CHANNEL STILL EXISTS>
Nov 21 11:30:47 <mod6>	haha
Nov 21 11:32:06 <jcpham>	what exactly is a bitcoin asset these days
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Nov 21 11:36:47 <kakobrekla>	milk
Nov 21 11:37:02 <jcpham>	i love milk!
Nov 21 11:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00050349 = 10.4726 BTC [+]
Nov 21 11:39:45 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Nov 21 11:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00050234 / 0.00050439 / 0.00051319 (3404908 shares, 1,717.41 BTC), 30day: 0.00042823 / 0.00048447 / 0.00051331 (60966128 shares, 29,536.68 BTC)
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Nov 21 11:40:53 <mod6>	!ticker S.BVPS
Nov 21 11:40:56 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.00280004 / 0.00280004 / 0.00280004 (3300 shares, 9.24 BTC), 30day: 0.002 / 0.00230086 / 0.0032491 (38016 shares, 87.47 BTC)
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Nov 21 11:42:16 <mod6>	i found this old starman script for BitchX that only rg could run anymore lol
Nov 21 11:42:30 <mod6>	did he ever turn up?
Nov 21 11:43:13 <mod6>	;;tell rg i've got a starman for you
Nov 21 11:43:23 <mod6>	awe
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Nov 21 11:43:31 <mod6>	;;later tell rg i've got a starman for you
Nov 21 11:43:31 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Nov 21 11:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51690 @ 0.00050625 = 26.1681 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 11:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00050758 = 8.4258 BTC [+]
Nov 21 11:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00051 = 4.0035 BTC [+]
Nov 21 11:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4860 @ 0.00050662 = 2.4622 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 12:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7631 @ 0.00050488 = 3.8527 BTC [-]
Nov 21 12:14:19 <smickles>	;;calc (13,445 - 8,203 - 2,071 - 402) / 100,000,000 / 0.00339922
Nov 21 12:14:19 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Nov 21 12:14:36 <smickles>	;;calc (13445 - 8203 - 2071 - 402) / 100000000 / 0.00339922
Nov 21 12:14:37 <gribble>	0.00814598643218
Nov 21 12:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31009 @ 0.00050488 = 15.6558 BTC [-]
Nov 21 12:16:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2026 @ 0.00051 = 1.0333 BTC [+]
Nov 21 12:16:52 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/#update_2_21nov12 <<< for which I just ran the calc ;)
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Nov 21 12:18:09 <jurov>	smickles, what about mpoe shareholders?
Nov 21 12:18:51 <jurov>	i suspect we're in a very nice surprise :p
Nov 21 12:20:46 <smickles>	jurov: oh? yeah, not that I have a good grasp on the situation (i've just casually paid attention), but so long as the exchange rate doesn't go above 13.3 (or something like that) mpoe should have a good dividend. but i could be entirely wrong :D
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Nov 21 12:25:30 <jurov>	so really nobody's watching mircea closely?
Nov 21 12:25:47 <DeaDTerra>	evening
Nov 21 12:28:03 <smickles>	jurov: I'd have to setup a script to monitor things, I've only been noticing the large orders and haven't done an exact calculation. But it would be limited by the fact that it would be difficult to distinguish mircea_popescu's bot, from other's adding liquidity
Nov 21 12:28:23 <smickles>	forenoon DeaDTerra
Nov 21 12:28:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00051 = 8.7975 BTC [+]
Nov 21 12:28:46 <DeaDTerra>	Anyone here going to DreamHack? The worlds biggest LAN event :)
Nov 21 12:28:48 <jurov>	smickles, you wanted to set up your own bot, so i guessed you'd have some grasp
Nov 21 12:29:54 <smickles>	jurov: i'm working on that bot still, i'll probably launch it afther this coming last friday (when i have more capital to work with ;)
Nov 21 12:30:21 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 21 12:30:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.70101, Best ask: 11.73969, Bid-ask spread: 0.03868, Last trade: 11.70101, 24 hour volume: 20219.34455426, 24 hour low: 11.60241, 24 hour high: 11.78400, 24 hour vwap: 11.70969
Nov 21 12:30:45 <smickles>	i'm looking at a 17% gain at the current rates, c'mon stability!
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Nov 21 12:31:50 <jurov>	similar here, although somwheat less.. now if someone could buy these C120T's
Nov 21 12:32:57 <smickles>	heh, didj'a lower you price yet?
Nov 21 12:33:52 <jurov>	what price do you consider acceptable?
Nov 21 12:35:36 <jurov>	0.09 ?
Nov 21 12:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00051 = 10.2 BTC [+]
Nov 21 12:39:54 <smickles>	jurov: heh, my spreadsheet is telling me 0.02040816
Nov 21 12:40:34 <smickles>	i expect that's lower than mircea's bot
Nov 21 12:40:44 <jurov>	C110T sells at 0.25, C130T at 0.06.. market
Nov 21 12:40:50 <jurov>	is thinking differently
Nov 21 12:41:20 <jurov>	mircea's bot gave up on these :p
Nov 21 12:43:45 <smickles>	giving btc to a bot feels like playing with fire
Nov 21 12:43:53 <smickles>	or liquid hydrogen
Nov 21 12:45:33 <kakobrekla>	speaking of bots, im just backtesting freshly baked robot based on kalman filters
Nov 21 12:46:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35700 @ 0.00051 = 18.207 BTC [+]
Nov 21 12:49:25 <smickles>	kakobrekla: do you have a db of mpex trades?
Nov 21 12:51:06 <smickles>	I've been meaning to setup a good one for myself, and was wondering how far back the twiter feed goes
Nov 21 12:52:29 <kakobrekla>	nope i dont keep one
Nov 21 12:52:38 <kakobrekla>	assbot doesnt log it
Nov 21 12:53:14 <jurov>	smickles, i have db since start of november
Nov 21 12:54:25 <jurov>	and python rss reader that updates it also, i don't trust twatter for this
Nov 21 12:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00051 = 21.063 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 13:05:35 <Namjies>	I got the list of assets for BTC-Mining
Nov 21 13:05:40 <Namjies>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFUajZmcWtQc2xVZUlGNXBvbWg1ZXc
Nov 21 13:06:10 <Namjies>	Check the list and see if you are included. Only the first 3 characters of email and BTC address are included
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Nov 21 13:09:29 <Namjies>	There's 475 unclaimed shares so far on 2369 shares sold.
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Nov 21 13:09:58 <Namjies>	That's 1/5th
Nov 21 13:10:00 <Namjies>	It's a lot.
Nov 21 13:10:15 <Namjies>	Hello Gigavps
Nov 21 13:10:29 <gigavps>	hello
Nov 21 13:10:36 <gigavps>	anything exciting happening?
Nov 21 13:10:46 <Namjies>	It seems nefario is sending further asset lists
Nov 21 13:10:53 <gigavps>	that is good
Nov 21 13:10:55 <Namjies>	I just received the one for BTC-Mining
Nov 21 13:10:56 <Azelphur>	gigavps: you got your asset list? :D
Nov 21 13:11:11 <gigavps>	i have received a partial list
Nov 21 13:11:17 <Azelphur>	fun
Nov 21 13:11:27 <Namjies>	I'm missing 1/5th of shares to be claimed.
Nov 21 13:11:36 <gigavps>	can't wait till people start to make claims and aren't on the list
Nov 21 13:11:46 <gigavps>	then what do you do?
Nov 21 13:12:16 <Azelphur>	I guess the missing ones are from people who refused to give info?
Nov 21 13:12:26 <Namjies>	Maybe
Nov 21 13:13:09 <Namjies>	Odd that I'm not on your list Gigavps. My list contains my address and my email
Nov 21 13:13:19 <gigavps>	i got some more today
Nov 21 13:13:55 <Namjies>	Ah, would 18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1 be included this time?
Nov 21 13:15:33 <gigavps>	nope
Nov 21 13:16:11 <Namjies>	=/
Nov 21 13:16:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00050811 = 9.3492 BTC [-]
Nov 21 13:16:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.00050629 = 13.7458 BTC [-]
Nov 21 13:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00050488 = 1.4389 BTC [-]
Nov 21 13:16:26 <gigavps>	this is a problem
Nov 21 13:16:45 <gigavps>	that i have yet to hear a solid way to solve it
Nov 21 13:17:12 <Namjies>	It's odd.
Nov 21 13:17:34 <Namjies>	My list seems to be accurate and contain users I was expecting to hold the amount of shares shown
Nov 21 13:17:58 <Namjies>	I recognize a few bitcointalk.org users too.
Nov 21 13:20:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00050488 = 6.311 BTC [-]
Nov 21 13:21:00 <DeaDTerra>	Either James has not managed to fully compile and send out the list
Nov 21 13:21:08 <DeaDTerra>	or some share holders have failed to provide the information to James
Nov 21 13:21:48 <jurov>	wasn't email required to glbse registration?
Nov 21 13:22:18 <DeaDTerra>	It was, I was talking about missing Bitcoin addresses
Nov 21 13:22:29 <DeaDTerra>	if all the info is missing the fault is probably with James
Nov 21 13:22:47 *	gigavps crawls under a rock
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Nov 21 13:24:12 <Namjies>	and a rock with multiple pairs of eyes glowing from the darkness under labeled "issuers" could be seen somewhere in Bitcoinland.
Nov 21 13:25:53 <DeaDTerra>	at least things are moving along, though very slow
Nov 21 13:26:09 <gigavps>	the fun is just beginning
Nov 21 13:26:11 <Namjies>	Aye
Nov 21 13:28:49 <smickles>	< Namjies> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFUajZmcWtQc2xVZUlGNXBvbWg1ZXc
Nov 21 13:28:59 <smickles>	i can guess who line 31 is
Nov 21 13:29:56 <Namjies>	Aye, but my shares amount was public
Nov 21 13:30:10 <Namjies>	on the BTC-BOND spreadsheet
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Nov 21 13:31:53 <Namjies>	I think the 300 shares is also guessable. I believe that's usagi which had that amount in his spreadsheet for BMF.
Nov 21 13:32:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22935 @ 0.00050845 = 11.6613 BTC [+]
Nov 21 13:32:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56780 @ 0.00051 = 28.9578 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 13:38:46 <Diablo-D3>	responded to btc-mining thread
Nov 21 13:38:53 <JWU42>	gigavps: I am finding gaps in what I received from GLBSe versus user submitted claims to me
Nov 21 13:39:28 <JWU42>	of primary concern are submitted claims from people i would trust
Nov 21 13:39:41 <JWU42>	and no reference in the GLBSE data
Nov 21 13:39:51 <Namjies>	How many shares did you have?
Nov 21 13:39:57 <smickles>	;;bc,stats
Nov 21 13:40:05 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 208949 | Current Difficulty: 3368767.1405329 | Next Difficulty At Block: 209663 | Next Difficulty In: 714 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 22 hours, 12 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3374381.13210326 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.166648252496
Nov 21 13:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00050488 = 8.9364 BTC [-]
Nov 21 13:40:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00050349 = 3.1216 BTC [-]
Nov 21 13:40:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13125 @ 0.00050234 = 6.5932 BTC [-]
Nov 21 13:40:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5475 @ 0.00050228 = 2.75 BTC [-]
Nov 21 13:40:18 <JWU42>	YABMC has 54,278 outstanding
Nov 21 13:40:21 *	midnightmagic pokes mircea_popescu in the eyeball
Nov 21 13:40:38 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: 100
Nov 21 13:40:56 <Namjies>	Hmm
Nov 21 13:40:56 <smickles>	midnightmagic: heh, why the poke to 'em?
Nov 21 13:40:59 <JWU42>	ahh - sorry - missed you were speaking with Diablo-D3
Nov 21 13:41:14 <Namjies>	Well there's 1/5th of shares unclaimed.
Nov 21 13:41:25 <Namjies>	It's a surprisingly large amount
Nov 21 13:41:41 <Namjies>	So I guess the list are partial.
Nov 21 13:41:51 <Azelphur>	Diablo-D3: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/August/2012-08-26-031510.jpg
Nov 21 13:41:59 <midnightmagic>	smickles: I poke everybody..
Nov 21 13:41:59 *	midnightmagic pokes you in the eyeball.
Nov 21 13:42:02 <smickles>	ask
Nov 21 13:42:05 <smickles>	er
Nov 21 13:42:06 <Diablo-D3>	Azelphur: what tablet is that? a nexus 7?
Nov 21 13:42:07 <smickles>	ack
Nov 21 13:42:10 <Azelphur>	Diablo-D3: yep :P
Nov 21 13:42:11 <midnightmagic>	:-)
Nov 21 13:42:26 <Diablo-D3>	Azelphur: I find it ironic they went with the phone ui on that
Nov 21 13:42:27 <Azelphur>	Diablo-D3: and here I was thinking you'd ask about the hat
Nov 21 13:42:32 <Diablo-D3>	Ive seen the photo before
Nov 21 13:42:37 <Diablo-D3>	I just forgot what the tablet was
Nov 21 13:42:40 <Azelphur>	yea, it is odd, there's builds of cyanogenmod with tablet mode enabled
Nov 21 13:42:46 <Azelphur>	I know, I was just reminding you how much you love ubuntu :P
Nov 21 13:43:00 <Diablo-D3>	I can do either phone ui or tablet ui on my kindle fire
Nov 21 13:43:18 <Diablo-D3>	phone ui just doesnt work with a screen that big
Nov 21 13:43:22 <Azelphur>	yea, it's odd
Nov 21 13:43:29 <Azelphur>	still, cyanogenmod fixes all the things
Nov 21 13:43:30 <Diablo-D3>	its hard to hit centered buttons in landscape mode, and having to drag down half the fucking screen to get notifications sucks
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Nov 21 13:43:33 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Nov 21 13:43:42 <Diablo-D3>	tablet ui + forced tablet ui in apps == delicious
Nov 21 13:44:11 <Namjies>	And you are 100% no shares were sold before GLBSE's closure and that the box agreeing to share info was ticked?
Nov 21 13:44:36 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: yes, I had no sell orders up for assets
Nov 21 13:44:43 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: and I was emailed by glbse saying whatever
Nov 21 13:45:23 <Namjies>	Okay. Well I'll try to at least get confirmation for most of the rest of the list.
Nov 21 13:45:44 <Namjies>	Can you PM me your email and BTC address used? I'll keep track of external claims.
Nov 21 13:46:37 <Diablo-D3>	there
Nov 21 13:46:51 <Namjies>	thanks
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Nov 21 13:53:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00051 = 8.2875 BTC [+]
Nov 21 13:54:07 <DeaDTerra>	I asked James why asset holders are missing
Nov 21 13:54:42 <DeaDTerra>	Some are because they have been removed as they did not send back the double payment, and the others are because 1/3 of the user base has not claimed their account.
Nov 21 13:55:13 <Namjies>	I suspect that 1/3 are mostly holding a few shares. Most big accounts seems to have claimed.
Nov 21 13:55:26 <Namjies>	They might claim in the following few months tho
Nov 21 13:55:41 <Namjies>	Not sure how long Nefario will accept claims.
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Nov 21 13:57:38 <Namjies>	Ah, could it be it? Have you received a double payment that was not returned, Diablo-D3?
Nov 21 13:58:37 <smickles>	oh no
Nov 21 13:58:46 <smickles>	i bet nefario could easily claim that
Nov 21 13:58:51 <smickles>	even if untrue
Nov 21 13:59:00 <smickles>	and peeps wouldn't have recourse
Nov 21 13:59:16 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: nope
Nov 21 13:59:33 <Namjies>	Dammit...
Nov 21 13:59:38 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: no, because we can just look at addresses on block explorer
Nov 21 14:00:18 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: he could just use any address which was sent a payment in that timeframe and still has funds at it
Nov 21 14:00:23 <Namjies>	We can hardly check if your GLBSE payment existed/was doubled/was repaid.
Nov 21 14:00:48 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: true, but then hes going to have to falsify asset lists
Nov 21 14:00:57 <smickles>	or even if it does't have funds at it too
Nov 21 14:00:58 <Diablo-D3>	seeing as the money he sent me was the entire balance of DIBFLSC
Nov 21 14:01:16 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: point is, witholding shareholder data for that reason is bad
Nov 21 14:01:25 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: yes
Nov 21 14:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43250 @ 0.00051 = 22.0575 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 14:03:48 <smickles>	dun dun duuun
Nov 21 14:03:49 <usagi>	EskimoBob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127149.msg1349912#msg1349912
Nov 21 14:03:53 <usagi>	Can you get on line and answer this please
Nov 21 14:03:59 <usagi>	if you are there...
Nov 21 14:04:52 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies, smickles: I dont like the fact I havent gotten lists for dmc or dibflsc
Nov 21 14:05:20 <smickles>	i haven't gotten lists for s²cm or mpoe etf yet :(
Nov 21 14:05:24 <usagi>	I just got the YARR list.
Nov 21 14:05:44 <usagi>	nothing for bmf, etc.
Nov 21 14:05:55 <Diablo-D3>	brb rebooting laptop
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Nov 21 14:06:08 <smickles>	I haven't received the s²cm btceither
Nov 21 14:06:13 <Namjies>	he said he'd send a few lists daily
Nov 21 14:06:20 <Namjies>	Usagi
Nov 21 14:06:28 <usagi>	Yes
Nov 21 14:06:39 <usagi>	180-200 assets implies.. hmm
Nov 21 14:06:46 <Namjies>	Can you confirm you're on my BTC-MINING lists?
Nov 21 14:06:46 <usagi>	more than a month
Nov 21 14:06:46 <Namjies>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFUajZmcWtQc2xVZUlGNXBvbWg1ZXc#gid=0
Nov 21 14:06:57 <Namjies>	I think line 17 is you.
Nov 21 14:07:29 <Namjies>	match the BTC-Mining shares BMF held if I'm not mistaken
Nov 21 14:07:56 <usagi>	I am line 17.
Nov 21 14:08:05 <usagi>	yes
Nov 21 14:08:05 <Namjies>	Good.
Nov 21 14:08:05 <usagi>	What did I win
Nov 21 14:08:13 <usagi>	(images of kuni from UHF screaming "nothing...")
Nov 21 14:09:04 <usagi>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc
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Nov 21 14:12:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00051 = 3.06 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 14:15:32 <smickles>	kakobrekla: with that algo, after you run the backtest, is the error estimate really fricken' low?
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Nov 21 14:18:20 <usagi>	goodnight it's very late here.. thx guys and namj
Nov 21 14:18:22 <usagi>	^^
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Nov 21 14:20:28 <kakobrekla>	smickles the filter is used to trigger trading decision delivered from an input which in currently is velocity
Nov 21 14:20:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5325 @ 0.00050228 = 2.6746 BTC [-]
Nov 21 14:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00050213 = 11.2979 BTC [-]
Nov 21 14:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17565 @ 0.00050181 = 8.8143 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 14:28:46 <Diablo-D3>	back
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Nov 21 14:40:53 <Diablo-D3>	note to self
Nov 21 14:40:56 <Diablo-D3>	dont use gl on laptop
Nov 21 14:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00051 = 9.333 BTC [+]
Nov 21 14:57:12 <dub>	https://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?n&storyid=14548
Nov 21 14:57:25 <dub>	this was momentarily confusing
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Nov 21 15:15:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44900 @ 0.00050315 = 22.5914 BTC [-]
Nov 21 15:31:50 <EskimoBob>	usagi, what is your fkn problem? are all shares accounted for (have a known owner)?
Nov 21 15:33:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10955 @ 0.00050315 = 5.512 BTC [-]
Nov 21 15:33:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13045 @ 0.00050268 = 6.5575 BTC [-]
Nov 21 15:37:29 <Namjies>	What is the issue EskimoBob?
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Nov 21 15:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2755 @ 0.00050268 = 1.3849 BTC [-]
Nov 21 15:38:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2485 @ 0.00050181 = 1.247 BTC [-]
Nov 21 15:38:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36750 @ 0.00050138 = 18.4257 BTC [-]
Nov 21 15:38:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4782 @ 0.00050094 = 2.3955 BTC [-]
Nov 21 15:38:48 <Namjies>	Oh I see...
Nov 21 15:38:56 <Namjies>	Usagi claims you lied...
Nov 21 15:39:07 <Namjies>	Well Usagi should know the lists are not complete
Nov 21 15:39:28 <Namjies>	and since he has unclaimed shares, you could have 9 in those.
Nov 21 15:45:24 <EskimoBob>	i sent a e-mail to nefario. Lets see if he answers. Maybe he sent me twice those pennies I had over there and I never noticed.
Nov 21 15:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7237 @ 0.00051 = 3.6909 BTC [+]
Nov 21 15:53:48 <Namjies>	Possible.
Nov 21 16:00:21 <dub>	you didn't use a clean wallet?
Nov 21 16:11:26 <Namjies>	Many didn't
Nov 21 16:11:37 <Namjies>	If you looked at payment claims thread.
Nov 21 16:14:24 <dub>	would have thought it sensible with the rumours about nefario getting tipped out by the feds
Nov 21 16:17:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38790 @ 0.0005082 = 19.7131 BTC [-]
Nov 21 16:17:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9760 @ 0.00051 = 4.9776 BTC [+]
Nov 21 16:25:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.0005036 = 5.7914 BTC [-]
Nov 21 16:26:22 *	smickles is driving traffic to the topic http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/5436/how-to-invest-bitcoins/5437#5437
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Nov 21 16:49:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.0005036 = 11.2806 BTC [-]
Nov 21 16:49:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28738 @ 0.00050319 = 14.4607 BTC [-]
Nov 21 17:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00050563 = 7.1041 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 17:28:17 <jurov>	smickles, "dangerous, risky, or even illegal"?
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Nov 21 17:41:43 <Namjies>	Depending on local regulations
Nov 21 17:42:39 <jurov>	i commented on that. did any institution in US/UK officially proclaim bitcoin securities illegal?
Nov 21 17:42:46 <jurov>	afaik no so far
Nov 21 17:43:44 <jurov>	*unlicensed bitcoin securities to be exact (although i doubt there are any licensed)
Nov 21 17:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	jeez that's a lot to read up
Nov 21 17:44:36 <Diablo-D3>	well, thats why I want to go the bond route
Nov 21 17:44:43 <Diablo-D3>	bonds dont need to be registered with the SEC
Nov 21 17:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	MPOE-PR, EskimoBob, Puppet, Deprived. Etc. -- Fraud and Conspiracy
Nov 21 17:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	that's cute.
Nov 21 17:47:01 <Diablo-D3>	whatever happened to puppet?
Nov 21 17:47:13 <Diablo-D3>	I havent seen him trolling around lately
Nov 21 17:47:22 <Diablo-D3>	did it come out that he was nefario's puppet?
Nov 21 17:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	<JWU42> and no reference in the GLBSE data <<< ouch
Nov 21 17:49:51 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i was kinda expecting that ;/
Nov 21 17:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21147 @ 0.00050955 = 10.7755 BTC [+]
Nov 21 17:50:39 <Namjies>	expecting what?
Nov 21 17:50:49 <JWU42>	mircea_popescu: it seems either some people did not fill in the GLBSE claim or they are in a dispute over BTC paid out and nefario is holding their assets "hostage"
Nov 21 17:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	that Namjies
Nov 21 17:51:04 <Namjies>	aye
Nov 21 17:51:07 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, what a fucker
Nov 21 17:51:32 <JWU42>	so - we wait a while longer
Nov 21 17:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	basically, "partial lists" is the only thing that's worse than both "lists" and "no lists"
Nov 21 17:51:39 <Namjies>	It's pretty much the only tool he has to force people to send back double payments.
Nov 21 17:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	nefario has a knack.
Nov 21 17:52:04 <Namjies>	I find partial list better than no list
Nov 21 17:52:19 <JWU42>	I was able to match up some claims
Nov 21 17:52:26 <JWU42>	maybe 50% of ouytstanding shares
Nov 21 17:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies maybe you get lucky. what JWU42 is describing is a prime rate nightmare.
Nov 21 17:52:52 <JWU42>	that is, matching a submitted claim to me via e-mail with GLBSE data
Nov 21 17:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	from gigavps' tight lippedness i infer he's in a similar situation
Nov 21 17:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	possibly not to the degree
Nov 21 17:53:09 <dub>	why would we send back double payments?
Nov 21 17:53:20 <JWU42>	why would you not?
Nov 21 17:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	dub because it was a shared mistake
Nov 21 17:53:28 <dub>	thats an "im a fucking moron its coming out of my own pocket" scenario
Nov 21 17:53:28 <mircea_popescu>	he send the payment, you provided the address.
Nov 21 17:53:28 <Namjies>	Because you don't own the extra funds?
Nov 21 17:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	insanyjoel logic.
Nov 21 17:53:55 <JWU42>	I guess there is enough hatred of nef that users vview it as an asshole tax on nef
Nov 21 17:54:09 <dub>	yeah, was about to say idiot tax
Nov 21 17:54:33 <Namjies>	If he can't pay users without those double payments back tho, it harms the innocent users tho.
Nov 21 17:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i dont understand where you figure he gets the empire to fuck with the issuers
Nov 21 17:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	to make up for his own stupidity.
Nov 21 17:54:58 <dub>	he can though sell his house, return his wife to the website for refund etc
Nov 21 17:55:09 <mircea_popescu>	this is like me running my car into a wall and then destroying the person's wall to extract my car.
Nov 21 17:55:21 <Namjies>	I'm not saying it's right.
Nov 21 17:55:29 <Namjies>	Technically, the info is not his.
Nov 21 17:55:46 <Namjies>	I'm just saying he probably went for it because it was the only option he could leverage.
Nov 21 17:56:05 <dub>	to head off any idiocy, i didnt receive a double payment (nor a single one)
Nov 21 17:56:30 <Namjies>	return his wife for... >.>
Nov 21 17:56:53 <Namjies>	I'm almost certain he didn't buy his wife.
Nov 21 17:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	can't argue with you there, he has a hefty history of doing stupid shit to compensate for other stupid shit
Nov 21 17:57:20 <dub>	englishman with chinawife == purchased
Nov 21 17:57:43 <mircea_popescu>	dub you ever seen the film with foster ?
Nov 21 17:57:50 <mircea_popescu>	nono, kidman not foster
Nov 21 17:58:07 <dub>	dead calm is the only kidman film I rate
Nov 21 17:58:07 <smickles>	22:28 < jurov> smickles, "dangerous, risky, or even illegal"? <<< I did say '..could be..'
Nov 21 17:58:27 <Namjies>	oh I see... so I guess everyone who is in a couple with an asian foreigner has purchased the girl...
Nov 21 17:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0188453/ try that. her russian accent is delicious.
Nov 21 17:58:48 <dub>	Namjies: usually
Nov 21 17:58:48 <Namjies>	I don't see how you can infer it must have been purchased...
Nov 21 17:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i'll have you know anyone married in romania has bought the wife.
Nov 21 17:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	i mean that literally.
Nov 21 17:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	they have a little ceremony at the wedding, people steal her off
Nov 21 17:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	groom buys her back
Nov 21 17:59:24 <dub>	it may not be a traditional cash exchange, sex/pretend love for citizenship works as well
Nov 21 17:59:42 <Namjies>	Well if it's customary for the groom to buy his wife...
Nov 21 18:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	dub why'd she want british citizenship ? she's not paki, she's chinese.
Nov 21 18:00:54 <dub>	probably cash for mail order then
Nov 21 18:01:04 <Namjies>	and Nefario was in China recently visiting her family with her or so he claimed...
Nov 21 18:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if he salted the soup
Nov 21 18:01:20 <Namjies>	That doesn't sound like a mail order...
Nov 21 18:01:39 <dub>	probably to arrange immigration documents
Nov 21 18:02:09 <Namjies>	Fine, fine, believe whatever you want. But I'm not buying that theory
Nov 21 18:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies he's just trolling.
Nov 21 18:06:09 <Namjies>	That may be.
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Nov 21 18:09:31 <Namjies>	So far so good however.
Nov 21 18:09:45 <Namjies>	Most claims are matching my list.
Nov 21 18:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127149.0
Nov 21 18:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	and it already begins.
Nov 21 18:13:26 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127149.msg1350181#msg1350181 << i enjoyed the response
Nov 21 18:13:46 <smickles>	"you dim witted hysterical fuck"
Nov 21 18:14:07 *	smickles imagines a painting
Nov 21 18:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	"paint a dim witted hysterical fuck. you have two hours and may only use white and burnt sienna"
Nov 21 18:14:46 <smickles>	lol
Nov 21 18:15:13 *	smickles paints snookie
Nov 21 18:15:37 <smickles>	*getting reamed by an anon
Nov 21 18:17:16 <Namjies>	Ah, well maybe others didn't have as much luck as me.
Nov 21 18:21:03 <Namjies>	Current claims: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFUajZmcWtQc2xVZUlGNXBvbWg1ZXc&pli=1#gid=0
Nov 21 18:21:48 <Namjies>	1 unofficial claim so far, many not confirmed yet, many claims confirmed by a user on bitcointalk
Nov 21 18:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	how can a user on bitcointalk confirm a claim ?
Nov 21 18:22:42 <Namjies>	By looking at spreadsheet and confirming the amount of shares is correct/email/btc address
Nov 21 18:22:43 <smickles>	sign a message with the address?
Nov 21 18:23:25 <Namjies>	Strictly looking to get each line I received associated with an actual, preexisting user.
Nov 21 18:23:31 <smickles>	;;rewardhalf
Nov 21 18:23:32 <gribble>	Error: "rewardhalf" is not a valid command.
Nov 21 18:23:35 <smickles>	er
Nov 21 18:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	o so you mean users claimed the lines as representing them ?
Nov 21 18:24:04 <smickles>	;;halfreward
Nov 21 18:24:05 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Thu Nov 29 02:24:05 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, and 0 seconds.
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Nov 21 18:27:35 <mircea_popescu>	at this point, theymos could make usagi a forum mod
Nov 21 18:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	make a back-up first, obviously.
Nov 21 18:27:50 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127207.msg1350464#msg1350464 <<< huh, so if bitcoin are legal tender anywhere, they are legal tender in poland?
Nov 21 18:28:08 <mircea_popescu>	then we can celebrate thanksgiving together once the forum is reloaded from the back-up
Nov 21 18:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	smickles not legal tender. foreign currency.
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Nov 21 18:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	i guess you'll find that most anywhere foreign currency is legally defined as "legal tender of any other country"
Nov 21 18:32:58 <Namjies>	Bitcoin is not technically legal tender in any country tho.
Nov 21 18:33:53 <Namjies>	Unless a country makes it legal tender any currency known or unkown... as far as I'm aware, no country has done such thing.
Nov 21 18:34:53 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Nov 21 18:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.0005061 = 12.7284 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 18:45:07 <jurov>	i replied there, i expect flames over these "third world countries" :P
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Nov 21 18:47:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.0005061 = 9.0339 BTC [-]
Nov 21 18:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00050563 = 3.3624 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 18:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	what, slovenia ?!
Nov 21 18:50:43 <kakobrekla>	a?
Nov 21 18:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Nov 21 18:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	"maybe except some third world countries with paranoid law system like USA, UK and North Korea"
Nov 21 18:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	i am of the same mind. the anglosphere is firmly lodged in the third world.
Nov 21 18:53:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00050563 = 2.1236 BTC [-]
Nov 21 18:53:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00050491 = 9.3408 BTC [-]
Nov 21 18:56:59 <smickles>	http://mpex.net/news/archiv/01168.html&usg=ALkJrhhVzd7ayJLxMi3VXLWUbDP_Q-fDHw
Nov 21 18:57:09 <mircea_popescu>	da fck
Nov 21 18:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	heh i guess i didn't get that one.
Nov 21 18:57:47 <smickles>	idunno¯\(°_o)/¯
Nov 21 19:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10557 @ 0.00050491 = 5.3303 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 19:10:43 <dub>	mircea_popescu: I think i've seen that, her real bf from russia comes and fucks him up oslt
Nov 21 19:10:58 <mircea_popescu>	yup
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Nov 21 19:15:19 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127159.msg1350350
Nov 21 19:15:32 <smickles>	best game ever
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Nov 21 19:19:16 <smickles>	kakobrekla: come, ally with padre http://the-biggest-fish.appspot.com/#
Nov 21 19:20:54 <smickles>	oh sht, i was eaten
Nov 21 19:21:04 <kakobrekla>	hm
Nov 21 19:21:08 <kakobrekla>	i think it failed in opera
Nov 21 19:21:22 <mircea_popescu>	let's try thios
Nov 21 19:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	i'ma be mircea
Nov 21 19:22:20 <smickles>	oh, the weight of my fish is now below the threashold
Nov 21 19:22:28 <Namjies>	How do fishs get eaten?
Nov 21 19:22:39 <smickles>	when you attack another fish and lose
Nov 21 19:22:44 <smickles>	you can only attack larger fish
Nov 21 19:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	sux.
Nov 21 19:23:11 <Namjies>	ah
Nov 21 19:23:21 <Namjies>	so you always have lower odds to win
Nov 21 19:23:27 <Namjies>	Is there a way to check odds?
Nov 21 19:23:48 <smickles>	when you have a fish, they show below the other fish
Nov 21 19:24:06 <Namjies>	Nice
Nov 21 19:24:24 <kakobrekla>	im too stupid for this
Nov 21 19:24:30 <smickles>	dont forget to bookmark the page when it tells you to
Nov 21 19:25:04 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i haven't.
Nov 21 19:25:52 <Namjies>	I need to create a bitcoin address for withdrawal first.
Nov 21 19:25:56 <smickles>	;;tslb
Nov 21 19:26:04 <gribble>	Time since last block: 12 minutes and 49 seconds
Nov 21 19:26:36 <smickles>	i should become visible again at the next block
Nov 21 19:26:49 <smickles>	gl padre!
Nov 21 19:26:50 <mircea_popescu>	how do you ally fishes ?
Nov 21 19:27:02 <smickles>	it's the one you choose at the beginning
Nov 21 19:27:22 <smickles>	oh wait
Nov 21 19:27:24 <smickles>	i dunno
Nov 21 19:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Nov 21 19:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Nov 21 19:28:31 <gribble>	Time since last block: 15 minutes and 17 seconds
Nov 21 19:28:37 <smickles>	oh, you are green to the people who chose you
Nov 21 19:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	so how do i chose someone
Nov 21 19:31:50 <Namjies>	Looks like fun. I'll create a fish.
Nov 21 19:31:51 <dub>	click them
Nov 21 19:32:25 <Namjies>	I don't see them biting each others tho.
Nov 21 19:32:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Nov 21 19:33:01 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 0 seconds
Nov 21 19:37:52 *	smickles ate mircea
Nov 21 19:45:50 <mircea_popescu>	aww rly ?
Nov 21 19:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	i still show up as 0
Nov 21 19:47:12 <dub>	whois smickles?
Nov 21 19:47:15 <Namjies>	Damn, I'm out of personal bitcoins.
Nov 21 19:47:17 <dub>	ObamaEatsBabies?
Nov 21 19:47:23 <Namjies>	I put them all on MPEx
Nov 21 19:47:29 <Namjies>	I can't play this.
Nov 21 19:48:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 21 19:49:49 <kakobrekla>	i lend food for fishes
Nov 21 19:49:52 <kakobrekla>	7% weekly
Nov 21 19:50:04 <dub>	let me in on that
Nov 21 19:50:06 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla : send me 5btc i'll credit your mpex acct ?
Nov 21 19:50:26 <kakobrekla>	you will credit it with interests? :)
Nov 21 19:51:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol nope.
Nov 21 19:51:37 <dub>	im not detecting any eating of fish
Nov 21 19:51:39 <kakobrekla>	well gimme addy what are you waiting for
Nov 21 19:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00050491 = 5.1248 BTC [-]
Nov 21 19:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	omfg he sold mpex to send me money
Nov 21 19:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	THIS FISH BUSINESS !!!
Nov 21 19:55:27 <dub>	time to send flowers
Nov 21 19:55:37 <dub>	you'll be sleeping with the fishes, see
Nov 21 19:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 21 20:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Nov 21 20:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	who's the biggest fish in da pond nao.
Nov 21 20:01:56 <kakobrekla>	loool
Nov 21 20:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Nov 21 20:02:30 <kakobrekla>	why you no eat?
Nov 21 20:02:55 <mircea_popescu>	cause there's nothing worthy in there ?
Nov 21 20:03:02 <mircea_popescu>	all minnows :D
Nov 21 20:03:09 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 21 20:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	so come on, someone attack Destroyer!
Nov 21 20:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10593 @ 0.00050491 = 5.3485 BTC [-]
Nov 21 20:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	smickles : you should prolly ask for a kickback from whoever made the game.
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Nov 21 20:17:12 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha just owned satoshidice
Nov 21 20:25:20 <JWU42>	SD is evil
Nov 21 20:25:39 <JWU42>	but I have found my own strategy and it has worked OK for the last 6 weeks
Nov 21 20:27:38 <kakobrekla>	02:26.48 ( &phy ) Are bitcoins kosher?
Nov 21 20:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	JWU42 this is about http://the-biggest-fish.appspot.com
Nov 21 20:37:27 <Namjies>	How can you have a strategy for...
Nov 21 20:37:36 <Namjies>	Something with odds against you...
Nov 21 20:37:44 <smickles>	oh shit, mircea's huge!
Nov 21 20:38:20 <smickles>	00:47 < dub> whois smickles? << padre
Nov 21 20:38:26 <Namjies>	yup
Nov 21 20:39:50 <Namjies>	Hmm, I'm thinking about getting referrals for Sealswithclubs and running freerolls every now and then.
Nov 21 20:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	smickles I EAT ALLL
Nov 21 20:40:24 <Namjies>	Hopefully getting some money to good players.
Nov 21 20:42:13 <kakobrekla>	who is mpex?
Nov 21 20:42:29 <Namjies>	Mircea?
Nov 21 20:42:51 <kakobrekla>	mircea is mircea and he didnt ask me for more money
Nov 21 20:43:05 <kakobrekla>	cause he wouldnt get it!
Nov 21 20:44:56 <kakobrekla>	JWU42, how can you run a profit on sd, do explain
Nov 21 20:45:25 <smickles>	kakobrekla: you don't think SD is profitable?
Nov 21 20:45:56 <Namjies>	SD = You always lose in the long run
Nov 21 20:46:08 <Namjies>	Play long enough and you'll end up in the red.
Nov 21 20:46:37 <smickles>	pigeons: do you know anything about rg being gone for days?
Nov 21 20:46:43 <Namjies>	The more you play, the lower your odds.
Nov 21 20:47:03 <Namjies>	rg? He's right here.
Nov 21 20:47:27 <smickles>	huhwhatnow? i Namjies == rg?
Nov 21 20:47:58 <kakobrekla>	lolno
Nov 21 20:48:11 <smickles>	/¯(°_o)/¯
Nov 21 20:48:19 <smickles>	/¯(°_o)/¯
Nov 21 20:50:08 <JWU42>	kakobrekla: I am up about 250 BTC in the last 6 weeks
Nov 21 20:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-biggest-fish-pretty-cool-javascript-game/
Nov 21 20:50:10 <JWU42>	;)
Nov 21 20:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Nov 21 20:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i am mircea, mpex and soon dtng
Nov 21 20:50:35 <JWU42>	slow and steady - trying to win 2 BTC a day
Nov 21 20:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	JWU42 people run a profit by owning shares.
Nov 21 20:50:47 <JWU42>	heh
Nov 21 20:50:57 <JWU42>	yeah - that is probably the wisest way
Nov 21 20:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Nov 21 20:51:14 <gribble>	Time since last block: 29 minutes and 15 seconds
Nov 21 20:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	dude why not a day and a half
Nov 21 20:51:45 <smickles>	dammit mircea_popescu, you beat me to the press
Nov 21 20:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun duuuunnnn
Nov 21 20:52:02 <kakobrekla>	midnightmagic
Nov 21 20:52:05 <kakobrekla>	eh
Nov 21 20:52:16 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu calls up for more players only to earn on them
Nov 21 20:52:18 <kakobrekla>	how low!
Nov 21 20:52:25 <kakobrekla>	;>
Nov 21 20:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	mwahaha
Nov 21 20:53:12 <smickles>	01:50 < mircea_popescu> JWU42 people run a profit by owning shares. << http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/#update_2_21nov12
Nov 21 20:53:35 <dub>	;;bc,rewardhalf
Nov 21 20:53:35 <gribble>	Error: "bc,rewardhalf" is not a valid command.
Nov 21 20:53:41 <smickles>	;;halfreward
Nov 21 20:53:42 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Thu Nov 29 02:33:41 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 week, 0 days, 0 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 21 20:53:43 <dub>	;;bc,halfrewaed
Nov 21 20:53:44 <gribble>	Error: "bc,halfrewaed" is not a valid command.
Nov 21 20:53:48 <dub>	ty
Nov 21 20:54:08 <JWU42>	they have had a nice recovery after a sharp drop
Nov 21 20:55:03 <dub>	how does this fish work
Nov 21 20:55:14 <smickles>	dub: read mircea_popescu's post
Nov 21 20:55:20 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-biggest-fish-pretty-cool-javascript-game/
Nov 21 20:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	i am actually impressed with the coding quality.
Nov 21 20:55:31 <smickles>	or the instructions on the gamesite itself
Nov 21 20:55:42 <mircea_popescu>	quite elegant imo.
Nov 21 20:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10362 @ 0.00050319 = 5.2141 BTC [-]
Nov 21 20:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16945 @ 0.00050302 = 8.5237 BTC [-]
Nov 21 20:56:12 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: if this gets popular, that dude will be rich
Nov 21 20:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	possibly, yea.
Nov 21 20:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	all depends on how well it handles many fish
Nov 21 20:56:52 <kakobrekla>	i still dont see the point of it.
Nov 21 20:57:01 <smickles>	it's a game?
Nov 21 20:57:48 <kakobrekla>	to what end
Nov 21 20:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla sort of million dollar website with interaction.
Nov 21 20:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	and ftr i put in 7 btc and i am worth 8 atm, so you could say i made a profit.
Nov 21 20:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Nov 21 20:59:07 <gribble>	Time since last block: 37 minutes and 9 seconds
Nov 21 20:59:17 <kakobrekla>	so now its a competition who puts more btc in
Nov 21 20:59:20 <kakobrekla>	i put 10
Nov 21 20:59:23 <kakobrekla>	you do 20
Nov 21 20:59:24 <kakobrekla>	etc
Nov 21 20:59:29 <kakobrekla>	just like inaba and cablepair
Nov 21 21:00:04 <smickles>	;;tslb
Nov 21 21:00:09 <gribble>	Time since last block: 38 minutes and 11 seconds
Nov 21 21:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla yes.
Nov 21 21:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	just like poker.
Nov 21 21:04:13 <kakobrekla>	yeah but your stake == your cards
Nov 21 21:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	mostly the same with poker.
Nov 21 21:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	depends what you play.
Nov 21 21:04:59 <kakobrekla>	well
Nov 21 21:05:05 <kakobrekla>	you set your cards with stake here
Nov 21 21:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	but in general due to variance, your stake = your cards
Nov 21 21:05:08 <kakobrekla>	that is not like poker
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Nov 21 21:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	listen, you get AK this turn, the other guy gets it next turn
Nov 21 21:05:28 <mircea_popescu>	cards are pretty much = 0 over a long run
Nov 21 21:05:49 <kakobrekla>	my point is, i can always get AK if i raise my deposit/stake
Nov 21 21:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	ya but if you do nothing with it you lose more.
Nov 21 21:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	think of it like bridge
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Nov 21 21:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	sure, you can have a 4 aces 4 kings 4 queens hand
Nov 21 21:06:20 <mircea_popescu>	however, if you fail to make the 7nt
Nov 21 21:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	you will be -x hundreds on the score
Nov 21 21:06:46 <kakobrekla>	so in case two guys have 10 and a half million coins each
Nov 21 21:06:54 <kakobrekla>	its just a matter of who trustes the site more
Nov 21 21:07:03 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Nov 21 21:07:08 <kakobrekla>	stupid game.
Nov 21 21:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	well im sure its not intended for 10mn coins.
Nov 21 21:07:51 <smickles>	;;tslb
Nov 21 21:07:52 <kakobrekla>	but the issue is same
Nov 21 21:07:57 <gribble>	Time since last block: 45 minutes and 59 seconds
Nov 21 21:07:58 <smickles>	:o
Nov 21 21:08:03 <kakobrekla>	i will run out of trust before i ran out of coins
Nov 21 21:08:20 <kakobrekla>	so its bullshit
Nov 21 21:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	well i mean, what do you want, to win it ?
Nov 21 21:09:29 <kakobrekla>	is the point of the game to loose it?
Nov 21 21:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	just to swim around, get a little fatter.
Nov 21 21:09:43 <mircea_popescu>	have people click your name
Nov 21 21:21:47 <smickles>	haha! suckit mircea_popescu
Nov 21 21:22:49 <kakobrekla>	nature is amazing.
Nov 21 21:23:04 <dub>	when do you cash out?
Nov 21 21:23:47 <smickles>	dub: whenever you want
Nov 21 21:23:55 <smickles>	I've already tested it, it works
Nov 21 21:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	lmao you deposited ?
Nov 21 21:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	YOU SUCK IT
Nov 21 21:27:32 <dub>	pwned
Nov 21 21:29:00 <mircea_popescu>	bwashaha i put like 8 btc into this im worth 15
Nov 21 21:29:57 <mircea_popescu>	poor smicks
Nov 21 21:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	when he gets back...
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Nov 21 21:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8929 @ 0.00050302 = 4.4915 BTC [-]
Nov 21 21:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8471 @ 0.00050205 = 4.2529 BTC [-]
Nov 21 21:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is odd. do you see mircea as 8.1999 or 10.999 ?
Nov 21 21:32:23 <dub>	former
Nov 21 21:33:17 <smickles>	oh shit
Nov 21 21:33:22 <dub>	8.334 now
Nov 21 21:33:41 <smickles>	wait, -1.5btc?
Nov 21 21:33:41 <mircea_popescu>	odd it looked 10.999 for me
Nov 21 21:33:43 <smickles>	how?
Nov 21 21:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	then it dropped to 8.x
Nov 21 21:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	smickles dtng attacked you
Nov 21 21:33:58 <kakobrekla>	its milk.
Nov 21 21:34:12 <smickles>	yeah, but i should only be reduced by half each time
Nov 21 21:34:18 <mircea_popescu>	1.5 is half of 3 neh ?
Nov 21 21:34:29 <kakobrekla>	those fishes are fishy
Nov 21 21:34:34 <kakobrekla>	and milky.
Nov 21 21:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol y the haet
Nov 21 21:35:30 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: _negative_ 1.5
Nov 21 21:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol coinapult joins the fray
Nov 21 21:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i see you as 1.5 ?
Nov 21 21:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	smicks, attack coinapult!
Nov 21 21:36:09 <smickles>	oh, a refresh fixed it
Nov 21 21:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	ew
Nov 21 21:36:39 <smickles>	coinapult wasted me :o
Nov 21 21:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	WAR
Nov 21 21:37:32 <smickles>	Oh NOES
Nov 21 21:37:48 <smickles>	fuck yeah!
Nov 21 21:37:56 <mircea_popescu>	wow wd
Nov 21 21:38:08 <smickles>	Ah
Nov 21 21:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol who da fuck did you get ?
Nov 21 21:38:26 <dub>	coinapult and mircea doing battle
Nov 21 21:38:57 <smickles>	hahaha
Nov 21 21:39:30 <dub>	lol smickles pwning
Nov 21 21:40:03 *	smickles withdraw, and still winning :)
Nov 21 21:40:32 <smickles>	lol
Nov 21 21:40:38 <smickles>	bai bai
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Nov 21 21:41:27 <Namjies>	smickles eats everything :O
Nov 21 21:43:18 <dub>	mircea_popescu: ouch
Nov 21 21:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 21 21:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	well i don't think the game actually works correctly
Nov 21 21:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	seeing how i was worth ~15 and people added money
Nov 21 21:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	and now the sum is < 10
Nov 21 21:44:00 <smickles>	well, i profited from that game :)
Nov 21 21:44:14 <dub>	smickles cached out though
Nov 21 21:44:21 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i withdrew monies :)
Nov 21 21:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	a hehe wd.
Nov 21 21:44:30 <dub>	cash stupid caching in the brain
Nov 21 21:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	i prolly should have withdrawn, could have made 5 or something like that.
Nov 21 21:45:00 <dub>	so tis bascially SD with pictures
Nov 21 21:45:25 <Namjies>	Nah... it's about stealing coins off others
Nov 21 21:46:54 <smickles>	lol, i'm the last ad left!
Nov 21 21:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. was fun lol.
Nov 21 21:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	smickles you got lucky attacking my top fish
Nov 21 21:47:57 <jchysk>	what are you guys playing?
Nov 21 21:47:58 <smickles>	heh, and coinapult
Nov 21 21:48:05 <smickles>	http://the-biggest-fish.appspot.com/#
Nov 21 21:48:34 <jchysk>	hah
Nov 21 21:48:37 <jchysk>	this is hilarious
Nov 21 21:49:27 <Namjies>	Mircea died...
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Nov 21 21:50:01 <smickles>	Namjies: yeah, he went wild at the end, it was a right frenzy
Nov 21 21:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	yah. -8btc for me.
Nov 21 21:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	was fun tho, so.
Nov 21 21:50:23 <Namjies>	Fun is what matters
Nov 21 21:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	course 8 btc is something like a dozen blowjobs from a pair of blue eyed identical twins
Nov 21 21:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	so maybe not REAL fun. but anyway.
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Nov 21 21:51:50 <Namjies>	Romania sounds cheap...
Nov 21 21:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	teh twins just happen to be slutty
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Nov 21 22:01:52 <lucidlepidoptera>	please check out our new bitcoin service startup: https://btcjam.com/listings/584
Nov 21 22:03:47 <Namjies>	eheh, yeah, I'm aware
Nov 21 22:04:01 <Namjies>	The rate is too low for me tho
Nov 21 22:04:08 <Namjies>	Doing other things with my bitcoins.
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Nov 21 22:05:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 42105 @ 0.00339922 = 143.1242 BTC [-]
Nov 21 22:05:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7920 @ 0.00339944 = 26.9236 BTC [+]
Nov 21 22:08:54 <dub>	kinda close to zipconf
Nov 21 22:14:07 <smickles>	woah
Nov 21 22:14:31 <smickles>	only 13571 shares to go until ipo shares are being bought again
Nov 21 22:15:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24392 @ 0.00050395 = 12.2923 BTC [+]
Nov 21 22:15:30 <Namjies>	Yeah
Nov 21 22:22:04 <smickles>	come, give me some karma: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13lpes/the_biggest_fish_a_fun_new_game/
Nov 21 22:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Nov 21 22:25:38 <smickles>	or watch jeph jacques draw a comic http://new.livestream.com/accounts/696105/events/885307
Nov 21 22:25:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00339922 / 0.00339925 / 0.00339944 (50025 shares, 170.05 BTC), 30day: 0.00180002 / 0.00332456 / 0.0034 (874155 shares, 2,906.19 BTC)
Nov 21 22:26:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22015 @ 0.00050395 = 11.0945 BTC [+]
Nov 21 22:26:20 <mircea_popescu>	starting to move a little.
Nov 21 22:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7620 @ 0.00050698 = 3.8632 BTC [+]
Nov 21 22:26:47 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: no doubt, because of my blog
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Nov 21 22:27:21 <smickles>	(￣ω￣;)
Nov 21 22:28:20 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/domain/blog.smickles.com/ <<< whoa! who did this?
Nov 21 22:28:35 <smickles>	oh, is that automatic?
Nov 21 22:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea
Nov 21 22:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/domain/polimedia.us/ i guess it must be automated
Nov 21 22:35:24 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: lol http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13k4vx/a_message_to_bitcoin_wannabe_scammers/c74vr0q
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Nov 21 22:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 21 22:44:00 <smickles>	haha!, my Biggest Fish add is working!
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Nov 21 22:46:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11080 @ 0.00050516 = 5.5972 BTC [-]
Nov 21 22:46:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00050407 = 9.3757 BTC [-]
Nov 21 22:46:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6629 @ 0.00050205 = 3.3281 BTC [-]
Nov 21 22:46:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32641 @ 0.00050094 = 16.3512 BTC [-]
Nov 21 22:47:06 <smickles>	and at -1082.333333333 CPM so far, it's the best advert i've ever placed
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Nov 21 22:49:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00050698 = 5.4754 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 22:56:23 <Namjies>	Bah, keep getting disconnected
Nov 21 22:56:47 <smickles>	Namjies: my ad has a cpm of -1082~ btc
Nov 21 22:56:59 <Namjies>	Your what?
Nov 21 22:57:05 <smickles>	my ad
Nov 21 22:57:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3147 @ 0.00050698 = 1.5955 BTC [+]
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Nov 21 22:57:19 <Namjies>	where/how/what?
Nov 21 22:57:50 <Namjies>	You get paid 1082 BTC per CPM to ... advertise?
Nov 21 22:58:04 <Namjies>	That's how in understand your formulation.
Nov 21 22:58:06 <smickles>	http://bit.ly/T5YOFJ
Nov 21 22:58:44 <smickles>	heh, it has a CPM of _negative_ 1082 btc ;)
Nov 21 22:58:56 <Namjies>	ah...
Nov 21 22:59:55 <Namjies>	I paid 0.60 USD in ads and now have... 0.01 USD in commission on Seals with Clubs!
Nov 21 23:00:06 <mircea_popescu>	usure smicks ?
Nov 21 23:00:06 <smickles>	damn, my fish is about slaughtered
Nov 21 23:00:11 <mircea_popescu>	awww.
Nov 21 23:00:13 <Namjies>	or 0.001 BTC
Nov 21 23:00:18 <smickles>	oh, mircea_popescu's at it again
Nov 21 23:00:27 <Namjies>	Seems non-BTC traffic is interested in BTC poker tho...
Nov 21 23:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha. this time i just looted.
Nov 21 23:00:38 <smickles>	lol, next you know, he'll be selling mpoe share to fund his addiction
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Nov 21 23:01:01 <Namjies>	Addiction is funly addictive!
Nov 21 23:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	well... unlike last time when i just left my 8 btcs hanging around
Nov 21 23:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	this time i withdrew
Nov 21 23:01:51 <smickles>	aw, my ally bit the dust :(
Nov 21 23:04:20 <smickles>	bitch!
Nov 21 23:04:35 <smickles>	woah, faucet
Nov 21 23:05:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00050309 = 3.7983 BTC [-]
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Nov 21 23:06:13 <smickles>	;;tslb
Nov 21 23:06:16 <gribble>	Time since last block: 2 minutes and 22 seconds
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Nov 21 23:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1840 @ 0.00050698 = 0.9328 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00050846 = 11.3387 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:07:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7731 @ 0.00050921 = 3.9367 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:10:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00050309 = 11.4453 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16490 @ 0.00050094 = 8.2605 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	so hows the cpm/roi smickles :p
Nov 21 23:13:36 <smickles>	heh about a dozen uniques from the fish game, and i'm net +3.147 btc
Nov 21 23:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	could be worse.
Nov 21 23:14:29 <smickles>	yeah, i coul've lost btc overall
Nov 21 23:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	im like -6
Nov 21 23:15:37 <dub>	destroyer is back
Nov 21 23:15:45 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: do a little highschool probability calc ;)
Nov 21 23:16:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.0005036 = 4.7842 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	what you mean ?
Nov 21 23:16:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 401 @ 0.00050094 = 0.2009 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:16:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26279 @ 0.00049988 = 13.1363 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:17:35 <smickles>	i think you best chances are in going after a fish much larger than you, you'll lose more often, but the big win should balance it out
Nov 21 23:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	seems about neutral. course the game just says "proportional"
Nov 21 23:18:22 <dub>	i want to play
Nov 21 23:18:26 <smickles>	i.e., go after the biggest fish there, or if you want it to be a little more fun, go after anything with a 10% or so on it
Nov 21 23:18:37 <dub>	alas places to go whiskey to drink
Nov 21 23:20:12 <smickles>	:( no whiskey here
Nov 21 23:23:46 <Namjies>	Withdrawal request at MPEx pending...
Nov 21 23:24:40 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 21 23:24:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.05000, Best ask: 12.07797, Bid-ask spread: 0.02797, Last trade: 12.05000, 24 hour volume: 38987.87991628, 24 hour low: 11.64350, 24 hour high: 12.10000, 24 hour vwap: 11.82328
Nov 21 23:24:44 <smickles>	oh
Nov 21 23:24:51 <Namjies>	Nice. Price up!
Nov 21 23:24:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00050921 = 7.078 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	whoa shoot up to 12 has it
Nov 21 23:27:01 <Namjies>	yup
Nov 21 23:27:16 <Namjies>	My Put options will profit greatly it seems
Nov 21 23:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	we're closing the year over 20
Nov 21 23:27:25 <Namjies>	Would be nice.
Nov 21 23:27:36 <dub>	;;tslb
Nov 21 23:27:39 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 43 seconds
Nov 21 23:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	the dude(s) with 40k calls will profit greatly lol
Nov 21 23:28:29 <smickles>	yeah, the one who doesn't lose until about 9.50 usd/btc, good call ;)
Nov 21 23:28:58 <smickles>	you have that balanced out buy the guy who shorted way more puts tho, right?
Nov 21 23:29:15 <smickles>	the ones that turn a profit above 13?
Nov 21 23:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	smickles short puts don't balance long calls
Nov 21 23:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	was like ~20k puts iirc
Nov 21 23:30:00 <smickles>	yeah, but these are unprofitable puts
Nov 21 23:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Nov 21 23:30:13 <smickles>	ij
Nov 21 23:30:16 <smickles>	er
Nov 21 23:30:16 <smickles>	ok
Nov 21 23:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	look at graph for O.BTCUSD.P200T for instance
Nov 21 23:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	sold high rebought low
Nov 21 23:30:55 <smickles>	ah
Nov 21 23:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10097 @ 0.00050921 = 5.1415 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:31:18 <mircea_popescu>	O.BTCUSD.P140T trades 18-27
Nov 21 23:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	last trade was 40
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Nov 21 23:31:56 <Namjies>	I sold P130s for 0.25 BTC each =/
Nov 21 23:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 2000 * .13
Nov 21 23:32:13 <gribble>	260
Nov 21 23:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	a cool 260 btc just on p140t
Nov 21 23:33:11 <Namjies>	Assuming it goes over 14 USD/BTC
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Nov 21 23:33:30 <usagi>	morning
Nov 21 23:34:54 <smickles>	still going apeshit on EskimoBob ?
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Nov 21 23:35:46 <usagi>	Me?
Nov 21 23:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33650 @ 0.00050145 = 16.8738 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00049988 = 4.224 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:36:17 <usagi>	You want to talk about that? Hmm
Nov 21 23:36:38 <smickles>	naw, not really
Nov 21 23:36:38 <usagi>	Well I posted that he had made a claim on GLBSE, and I posted that he was not on the list I was sent by GLBSE.... it's on the forums if you're interested
Nov 21 23:36:59 <Namjies>	I'm missing claimers too on my list.
Nov 21 23:36:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10036 @ 0.00050921 = 5.1104 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:37:06 <Namjies>	Doesn't mean there was false claims.
Nov 21 23:37:26 <usagi>	The information you were sent included a disclaimer that you might be sent more claimants as they filed claims with GLBSE.
Nov 21 23:37:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4985 @ 0.00050921 = 2.5384 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:37:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25765 @ 0.00051 = 13.1402 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:37:36 <usagi>	In this case, EskimoBob is on record stating he filed a claim.
Nov 21 23:37:50 <usagi>	So while it's plausable on one hand he did not yet file his claim, he stated he did. So....
Nov 21 23:37:53 <smickles>	usagi: did EskimoBob withold a double payment from nef?
Nov 21 23:38:02 <smickles>	iirc, he advocated doing that
Nov 21 23:38:10 <usagi>	I don't know. I'm willing to wait and see what his response is.
Nov 21 23:38:29 <usagi>	I've presented the information and I'm willing to step back and just wait and see. Maybe I'm wrong?
Nov 21 23:38:38 <smickles>	if he filed a claim, and then didn't return a double payment, nef would withold his data from the issuers
Nov 21 23:38:56 <smickles>	hell, nef could actually get away with doing that to someone 'just cause'
Nov 21 23:39:02 <usagi>	Then
Nov 21 23:39:06 <usagi>	He can verify that
Nov 21 23:39:15 <smickles>	he can't actually
Nov 21 23:39:19 <usagi>	Why not
Nov 21 23:39:22 <smickles>	unless nef shows his hand
Nov 21 23:39:41 <smickles>	because the way the situation is, nef could just be dicking with EskimoBob
Nov 21 23:39:57 <usagi>	If EB claims he received a double payment and refused to return it
Nov 21 23:40:07 <usagi>	Then that woudl be pretty scammy considering he is now trying to make a claim.
Nov 21 23:40:23 <usagi>	But, showing he said that would go a long way to explaining this
Nov 21 23:40:28 <smickles>	suppose eb wasn't sent a double payment, and nef said he was
Nov 21 23:40:32 <usagi>	Can anyone show he made such a statement, that he had been paid?
Nov 21 23:40:50 <usagi>	But did EB say that without foreknowledge I would raise a scammer tag against him? If so that's 99.9% proof right there
Nov 21 23:41:21 <smickles>	I think EB advocated not sending back double payments when it looked like nef would never release the infos
Nov 21 23:41:29 <usagi>	He would not have had foreknowledge nef would release info... in fact for a long time it looked like he wouldn't. So it's logical to conclude if he said he did not return a double payment, that in fact this is why he wasn't on the list.
Nov 21 23:41:33 <smickles>	but i'm unsure if it was EB or not
Nov 21 23:41:51 <usagi>	But then I will be honest -- I will say that he intentionally kept a double payment and then attempted to file a claim
Nov 21 23:41:57 <usagi>	Which is a much clearer case of fraud.....
Nov 21 23:41:58 <dub>	;;tslb
Nov 21 23:42:01 <gribble>	Time since last block: 16 minutes and 4 seconds
Nov 21 23:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28325 @ 0.00051 = 14.4458 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:42:15 <usagi>	If EB kept extra money from GLBSE and then willingly attempted to file a claim
Nov 21 23:42:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 21 23:42:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.05000, Best ask: 12.09951, Bid-ask spread: 0.04951, Last trade: 12.09957, 24 hour volume: 39295.73956024, 24 hour low: 11.64350, 24 hour high: 12.10000, 24 hour vwap: 11.82560
Nov 21 23:42:24 <usagi>	He definately deserves a scammer tag. That's really really bad.
Nov 21 23:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	hmm that's delayed.
Nov 21 23:42:37 <usagi>	He attempted to steal right there.
Nov 21 23:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	more like 12.15
Nov 21 23:42:38 <smickles>	usagi: it's not a clear case at all, because nefario could claim all sorts of things that eb can't disprove
Nov 21 23:42:52 <usagi>	But if EB said himself he received a double payment he implicated himself
Nov 21 23:43:13 <smickles>	not at all, at the time it was logical to withold those
Nov 21 23:43:25 <smickles>	it was the only bargining chip of the issuers
Nov 21 23:43:28 <usagi>	Is it now logical?
Nov 21 23:43:29 <dub>	;;ticker --last
Nov 21 23:43:30 <gribble>	12.09948
Nov 21 23:43:39 <usagi>	Getting this resolved would now include returning a double payment.
Nov 21 23:43:47 <dub>	thats right
Nov 21 23:43:47 <smickles>	usagi: he might not _still_ be witholding it
Nov 21 23:43:57 <dub>	unless gox engine is fail
Nov 21 23:43:59 <usagi>	If Nefario was fucking with EB
Nov 21 23:44:03 <usagi>	then he wouldn't send a payment at all.
Nov 21 23:44:10 <smickles>	assuming he ever actually did get a double payment
Nov 21 23:44:18 <usagi>	Yep. Well, we will see what EB can do.
Nov 21 23:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16874 @ 0.00051 = 8.6057 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	well im off. take care all
Nov 21 23:45:03 <smickles>	nn
Nov 21 23:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	and thanks for all da fishes :D
Nov 21 23:46:06 <dub>	lol nn
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Nov 21 23:46:29 <dub>	as well you might run in fear from me
Nov 21 23:47:52 <usagi>	Smickles that is an interesting point do you mind if I post it to the forum?
Nov 21 23:48:53 <smickles>	usagi: go ahead
Nov 21 23:49:32 <smickles>	heh, I have a tipjar too ;)
Nov 21 23:49:40 <smickles>	;;gpg info smickles
Nov 21 23:49:41 <gribble>	User 'smickles', with keyid EA62D7CEB2450C3F, fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6, registered on Mon Jun 20 12:24:35 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=smickles . Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com .
Nov 21 23:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00050256 = 11.0061 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:52:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00051 = 11.016 BTC [+]
Nov 21 23:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15271 @ 0.00049988 = 7.6337 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33703 @ 0.00049985 = 16.8464 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5176 @ 0.00049954 = 2.5856 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:57:34 <sgornick>	smickles: How long after 1 confirmation before the credit shows?
Nov 21 23:57:54 <sgornick>	(for the fish thing)
Nov 21 23:58:02 <usagi>	Good time to ask, I heard he was just tipped 0.1 btc.
Nov 21 23:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9124 @ 0.00049954 = 4.5578 BTC [-]
Nov 21 23:59:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2575 @ 0.00049949 = 1.2862 BTC [-]
Nov 22 00:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00050613 = 2.3282 BTC [+]
Nov 22 00:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18169 @ 0.00049949 = 9.0752 BTC [-]
Nov 22 00:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5781 @ 0.00049926 = 2.8862 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 00:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00050613 = 15.5382 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 00:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00050613 = 17.917 BTC [+]
Nov 22 00:33:46 <Namjies>	I am now a fish too!
Nov 22 00:34:05 <Namjies>	Namworld.com, now competing against smickles.com
Nov 22 00:46:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14969 @ 0.00049926 = 7.4734 BTC [-]
Nov 22 00:46:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29631 @ 0.00049807 = 14.7583 BTC [-]
Nov 22 00:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00050377 = 5.8941 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 01:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12569 @ 0.00049807 = 6.2602 BTC [-]
Nov 22 01:02:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15362 @ 0.00049806 = 7.6512 BTC [-]
Nov 22 01:05:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00049806 = 5.3292 BTC [-]
Nov 22 01:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00050377 = 20.2012 BTC [+]
Nov 22 01:22:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00050377 = 4.8866 BTC [+]
Nov 22 01:22:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7064 @ 0.00050613 = 3.5753 BTC [+]
Nov 22 01:33:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00050108 = 3.9585 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 01:50:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36450 @ 0.0005005 = 18.2432 BTC [-]
Nov 22 01:56:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.0005005 = 7.5826 BTC [-]
Nov 22 01:59:39 *	OneFixt_ is now known as OneFixt
Nov 22 02:08:45 <Namjies>	I won a bit on the fish thing
Nov 22 02:08:48 <Namjies>	Hurra
Nov 22 02:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.0004987 = 15.8088 BTC [-]
Nov 22 02:17:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00049806 = 19.9722 BTC [-]
Nov 22 02:19:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22915 @ 0.00049806 = 11.413 BTC [-]
Nov 22 02:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00049709 = 1.2427 BTC [-]
Nov 22 02:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10835 @ 0.00049661 = 5.3808 BTC [-]
Nov 22 02:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00049849 = 10.7175 BTC [+]
Nov 22 02:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8778 @ 0.0005005 = 4.3934 BTC [+]
Nov 22 02:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13722 @ 0.0005025 = 6.8953 BTC [+]
Nov 22 02:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9242 @ 0.00049661 = 4.5897 BTC [-]
Nov 22 02:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00049649 = 6.6281 BTC [-]
Nov 22 02:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00049646 = 1.2412 BTC [-]
Nov 22 02:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15808 @ 0.00049609 = 7.8422 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 02:50:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12422 @ 0.00050081 = 6.2211 BTC [+]
Nov 22 02:50:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16628 @ 0.0005025 = 8.3556 BTC [+]
Nov 22 02:55:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23453 @ 0.00050256 = 11.7865 BTC [+]
Nov 22 02:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11798 @ 0.00050256 = 5.9292 BTC [+]
Nov 22 02:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19152 @ 0.00049609 = 9.5011 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 03:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31390 @ 0.00049609 = 15.5723 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23160 @ 0.00049494 = 11.4628 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19540 @ 0.00049494 = 9.6711 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22610 @ 0.0004948 = 11.1874 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:14:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27981 @ 0.0004948 = 13.845 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:14:36 <Chaang-Noi>	w00t we broke 12
Nov 22 03:18:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7719 @ 0.0004948 = 3.8194 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:18:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 411 @ 0.0004948 = 0.2034 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:18:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28870 @ 0.00049444 = 14.2745 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00049444 = 3.1891 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00050028 = 13.8578 BTC [+]
Nov 22 03:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00050028 = 6.1034 BTC [+]
Nov 22 03:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7539 @ 0.00050527 = 3.8092 BTC [+]
Nov 22 03:36:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18019 @ 0.000503 = 9.0636 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:36:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27581 @ 0.00049794 = 13.7337 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 03:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25515 @ 0.00049794 = 12.7049 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 03:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17160 @ 0.00049736 = 8.5347 BTC [-]
Nov 22 03:55:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36700 @ 0.0005016 = 18.4087 BTC [+]
Nov 22 03:55:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00050527 = 0.3537 BTC [+]
Nov 22 03:58:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00049964 = 5.0464 BTC [-]
Nov 22 04:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12909 @ 0.00049964 = 6.4499 BTC [-]
Nov 22 04:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3568 @ 0.00049444 = 1.7642 BTC [-]
Nov 22 04:02:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26423 @ 0.00049444 = 13.0646 BTC [-]
Nov 22 04:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5805 @ 0.00049444 = 2.8702 BTC [-]
Nov 22 04:06:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29016 @ 0.00049441 = 14.3458 BTC [-]
Nov 22 04:06:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8979 @ 0.00049413 = 4.4368 BTC [-]
Nov 22 04:17:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00049413 = 16.1333 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 04:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14070 @ 0.00049662 = 6.9874 BTC [+]
Nov 22 04:36:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30165 @ 0.00049662 = 14.9805 BTC [+]
Nov 22 04:36:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21676 @ 0.00049706 = 10.7743 BTC [+]
Nov 22 04:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.000502 = 3.7148 BTC [+]
Nov 22 04:44:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00050527 = 5.179 BTC [+]
Nov 22 04:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 211 @ 0.00050527 = 0.1066 BTC [+]
Nov 22 04:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2236 @ 0.00050613 = 1.1317 BTC [+]
Nov 22 04:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36003 @ 0.00050861 = 18.3115 BTC [+]
Nov 22 04:50:12 <Chaang-Noi>	when will btc halve?
Nov 22 04:52:00 <Diablo-D3>	soonb
Nov 22 05:02:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00050861 = 7.146 BTC [+]
Nov 22 05:05:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00050861 = 7.68 BTC [+]
Nov 22 05:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24228 @ 0.00050861 = 12.3226 BTC [+]
Nov 22 05:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21459 @ 0.000502 = 10.7724 BTC [-]
Nov 22 05:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1271 @ 0.00049413 = 0.628 BTC [-]
Nov 22 05:10:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00049398 = 9.0398 BTC [-]
Nov 22 05:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6070 @ 0.00049308 = 2.993 BTC [-]
Nov 22 05:13:18 *	n is now known as njan
Nov 22 05:18:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8847 @ 0.00050861 = 4.4997 BTC [+]
Nov 22 05:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00051 = 18.054 BTC [+]
Nov 22 05:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00051 = 9.792 BTC [+]
Nov 22 05:39:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 339 @ 0.00050972 = 0.1728 BTC [-]
Nov 22 05:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10211 @ 0.00050349 = 5.1411 BTC [-]
Nov 22 05:41:48 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bc,halfreward
Nov 22 05:41:49 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 17:41:00 2012 | Time remaining: 6 days, 15 hours, and 0 seconds
Nov 22 05:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18352 @ 0.00050349 = 9.24 BTC [-]
Nov 22 05:42:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16114 @ 0.00050187 = 8.0871 BTC [-]
Nov 22 05:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16684 @ 0.00050036 = 8.348 BTC [-]
Nov 22 05:42:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i really expected btc price to be more volatile
Nov 22 05:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42150 @ 0.00051 = 21.4965 BTC [+]
Nov 22 05:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63900 @ 0.00051 = 32.589 BTC [+]
Nov 22 06:01:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19017 @ 0.00050158 = 9.5385 BTC [-]
Nov 22 06:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5983 @ 0.00050158 = 3.001 BTC [-]
Nov 22 06:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13816 @ 0.00050036 = 6.913 BTC [-]
Nov 22 06:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00049882 = 15.9124 BTC [-]
Nov 22 06:05:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10401 @ 0.00049308 = 5.1285 BTC [-]
Nov 22 06:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00049966 = 15.7893 BTC [+]
Nov 22 06:30:14 <Diablo-D3>	hrm, 6 more days
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Nov 22 06:54:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00049966 = 2.6982 BTC [+]
Nov 22 06:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13804 @ 0.00049898 = 6.8879 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20879 @ 0.00049898 = 10.4182 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18130 @ 0.00049795 = 9.0278 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2991 @ 0.00049745 = 1.4879 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:06:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15695 @ 0.00049745 = 7.8075 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:06:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13805 @ 0.00049733 = 6.8656 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 07:11:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53050 @ 0.0005072 = 26.907 BTC [+]
Nov 22 07:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00049948 = 10.3392 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17040 @ 0.0005072 = 8.6427 BTC [+]
Nov 22 07:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20260 @ 0.00050777 = 10.2874 BTC [+]
Nov 22 07:14:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150 @ 0.00050892 = 0.0763 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 07:24:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00050892 = 4.224 BTC [+]
Nov 22 07:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7523 @ 0.00049948 = 3.7576 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6895 @ 0.00049733 = 3.4291 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:28:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19232 @ 0.00049606 = 9.5402 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00050892 = 1.196 BTC [+]
Nov 22 07:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7329 @ 0.00051 = 3.7378 BTC [+]
Nov 22 07:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00049847 = 20.6865 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:48:16 <Chaang-Noi>	we having a halving party?
Nov 22 07:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	i definitely am.
Nov 22 07:50:55 <lucidlepidoptera>	please check out our new bitcoin service startup: https://btcjam.com/listings/584
Nov 22 07:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00049847 = 1.6699 BTC [-]
Nov 22 07:51:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00049606 = 5.5807 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 07:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00049698 = 6.0383 BTC [+]
Nov 22 07:59:02 <EskimoBob>	so,little shitbird usagi is opening up multiple scam accusations and when he realizes, he has no proof, closes the thread and makes a new one
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Nov 22 08:06:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00051 = 14.4585 BTC [+]
Nov 22 08:07:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.0005062 = 7.3905 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 08:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.0005062 = 10.0987 BTC [-]
Nov 22 08:16:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11376 @ 0.0005062 = 5.7585 BTC [-]
Nov 22 08:16:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21024 @ 0.00050085 = 10.5299 BTC [-]
Nov 22 08:23:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7423 @ 0.00050085 = 3.7178 BTC [-]
Nov 22 08:23:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7927 @ 0.00050083 = 3.9701 BTC [-]
Nov 22 08:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28515 @ 0.00050391 = 14.369 BTC [+]
Nov 22 08:40:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.00050083 = 16.0516 BTC [-]
Nov 22 08:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10485 @ 0.00050391 = 5.2835 BTC [+]
Nov 22 08:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29150 @ 0.00050607 = 14.7519 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 08:55:57 <Chaang-Noi>	usagi is saying who is scamming?
Nov 22 09:02:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1737 @ 0.00050884 = 0.8839 BTC [+]
Nov 22 09:02:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27663 @ 0.00050496 = 13.9687 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 09:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12537 @ 0.00050496 = 6.3307 BTC [-]
Nov 22 09:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23463 @ 0.00050343 = 11.812 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 09:23:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00050343 = 4.4805 BTC [-]
Nov 22 09:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2454 @ 0.00050343 = 1.2354 BTC [-]
Nov 22 09:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00050262 = 7.489 BTC [-]
Nov 22 09:29:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28346 @ 0.00050114 = 14.2053 BTC [-]
Nov 22 09:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00339944 = 1.0198 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 09:51:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41700 @ 0.00050689 = 21.1373 BTC [+]
Nov 22 09:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1555 @ 0.00050689 = 0.7882 BTC [+]
Nov 22 09:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38050 @ 0.00050663 = 19.2773 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 10:03:49 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIwH7ptHCWc
Nov 22 10:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10745 @ 0.00050663 = 5.4437 BTC [-]
Nov 22 10:03:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14505 @ 0.00050804 = 7.3691 BTC [+]
Nov 22 10:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00050804 = 5.1566 BTC [+]
Nov 22 10:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22828 @ 0.0005021 = 11.4619 BTC [-]
Nov 22 10:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5554 @ 0.00050114 = 2.7833 BTC [-]
Nov 22 10:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12634 @ 0.00050083 = 6.3275 BTC [-]
Nov 22 10:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14422 @ 0.00050053 = 7.2186 BTC [-]
Nov 22 10:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00050804 = 6.7061 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 10:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18978 @ 0.00050053 = 9.4991 BTC [-]
Nov 22 10:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9372 @ 0.00049797 = 4.667 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 10:23:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00050804 = 12.9042 BTC [+]
Nov 22 10:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6767 @ 0.00050695 = 3.4305 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 10:50:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00050695 = 7.9845 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 11:10:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11158 @ 0.00050547 = 5.64 BTC [-]
Nov 22 11:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23042 @ 0.00049937 = 11.5065 BTC [-]
Nov 22 11:16:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42645 @ 0.00050695 = 21.6189 BTC [+]
Nov 22 11:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23258 @ 0.00049937 = 11.6143 BTC [-]
Nov 22 11:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26428 @ 0.00049797 = 13.1604 BTC [-]
Nov 22 11:19:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1514 @ 0.00049694 = 0.7524 BTC [-]
Nov 22 11:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9386 @ 0.00049694 = 4.6643 BTC [-]
Nov 22 11:26:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6349 @ 0.00049672 = 3.1537 BTC [-]
Nov 22 11:26:31 <Ukto>	woah
Nov 22 11:26:35 <Ukto>	whats with all the trades?
Nov 22 11:26:58 <kakobrekla>	trades. happen.
Nov 22 11:27:06 <Ukto>	just seemed like alot this morning
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Nov 22 11:28:57 <jurov>	mircea is trading with himself :P
Nov 22 11:29:22 <jurov>	where did i saw that? yeah on reddit...
Nov 22 11:29:51 <jurov>	but the 1.8m wall yesterday was really impressive
Nov 22 11:30:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8304 @ 0.00050695 = 4.2097 BTC [+]
Nov 22 11:30:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7434 @ 0.00050804 = 3.7768 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 11:33:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14111 @ 0.00050804 = 7.169 BTC [+]
Nov 22 11:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 781 @ 0.00050846 = 0.3971 BTC [+]
Nov 22 11:40:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20896 @ 0.00050846 = 10.6248 BTC [+]
Nov 22 11:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32133 @ 0.00050846 = 16.3383 BTC [+]
Nov 22 11:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17717 @ 0.00051 = 9.0357 BTC [+]
Nov 22 11:41:14 <jurov>	pity that my scalper needs update to use latest code. would have made a killing :P
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Nov 22 11:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32604 @ 0.00051 = 16.628 BTC [+]
Nov 22 11:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	well the 2mn wall you mean. and that was me.
Nov 22 11:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	and i'm not going to keep seling my own shares jsut because people keep wanting to buy them ;/
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Nov 22 11:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91270 @ 0.00051 = 46.5477 BTC [+]
Nov 22 11:59:00 <smickles>	04:57 #bitcoin-assets: < sgornick> smickles: How long after 1 confirmation before the credit shows? << should be just about _at_ one confirm to show
Nov 22 11:59:19 <smickles>	goatse, lol
Nov 22 12:00:05 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha dtng survives
Nov 22 12:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	but mpex is gone
Nov 22 12:00:25 <smickles>	i'm at .096
Nov 22 12:00:32 <smickles>	only just invisible
Nov 22 12:01:32 <smickles>	heh, freemoney's fish is finally there
Nov 22 12:02:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44900 @ 0.00051 = 22.899 BTC [+]
Nov 22 12:06:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32450 @ 0.00051 = 16.5495 BTC [+]
Nov 22 12:09:00 <smickles>	lol, i just witnessed the death of Nameworld
Nov 22 12:10:22 <kakobrekla>	you be all swimmin with the fishes.
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Nov 22 12:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00051 = 16.524 BTC [+]
Nov 22 12:13:19 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> lol, i just witnessed the death of Nameworld
Nov 22 12:20:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.00051 = 21.3945 BTC [+]
Nov 22 12:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33900 @ 0.00051 = 17.289 BTC [+]
Nov 22 12:36:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00051 = 16.218 BTC [+]
Nov 22 12:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00050884 = 15.0617 BTC [-]
Nov 22 12:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23072 @ 0.00051 = 11.7667 BTC [+]
Nov 22 13:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00050884 = 10.9909 BTC [-]
Nov 22 13:04:18 <smickles>	look, there's a bitcointalk.org fish now
Nov 22 13:05:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 22 13:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	MY ARTICLE MADE HIM!!!1
Nov 22 13:05:50 <smickles>	lol, one of your commenters?
Nov 22 13:06:03 <mircea_popescu>	From:  	"Erik Voorhees" I will never forgive you for eating my fish!!!!!
Nov 22 13:06:14 <smickles>	lol
Nov 22 13:06:16 <mircea_popescu>	hehehe
Nov 22 13:07:53 <Namjies>	I'm back in the game...
Nov 22 13:07:54 <smickles>	lol, "jaws" is blockchain.info
Nov 22 13:08:18 <Namjies>	I only put 0.10 so people register fishes under my name.
Nov 22 13:08:22 <Namjies>	and keep it there
Nov 22 13:08:31 <Namjies>	Apparently it works.
Nov 22 13:08:45 <smickles>	Namjies: well, until your ally takes a hit
Nov 22 13:08:47 <Namjies>	Because I died.
Nov 22 13:08:56 <Namjies>	Yeah
Nov 22 13:08:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00050884 = 0.865 BTC [-]
Nov 22 13:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00050652 = 14.3852 BTC [-]
Nov 22 13:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00050633 = 1.8228 BTC [-]
Nov 22 13:14:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00050633 = 3.4177 BTC [-]
Nov 22 13:17:01 <smickles>	ohsht, bitcointalk just ate a newb!
Nov 22 13:17:22 <smickles>	and then got pwnd by svost
Nov 22 13:18:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00050633 = 3.3924 BTC [-]
Nov 22 13:19:55 <mircea_popescu>	mwaghaga a cool 10 btc profit for me.
Nov 22 13:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	pi.uk is DEAD
Nov 22 13:21:18 <smickles>	10 btc from the fish?!
Nov 22 13:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	mhm.
Nov 22 13:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	i ate a few ppl.
Nov 22 13:22:39 <Namjies>	You keep eating them
Nov 22 13:23:07 <Namjies>	You're definitly lucky
Nov 22 13:23:50 <Namjies>	While you guys play, I'm going to refer more people to Seals with Clubs.
Nov 22 13:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	Thank you for your help to test the game. Withdraw your funds plz and PM me with found bugs. If some bitcoins wasn't deposited then PM me with your tx id.
Nov 22 13:24:06 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127159.msg1351741#msg1351741
Nov 22 13:24:32 <smickles>	aw :(
Nov 22 13:25:00 <Namjies>	He should just force withdrawals on all fishes...
Nov 22 13:25:13 <Namjies>	I'm sure many won't see that.
Nov 22 13:27:44 <Namjies>	I killed myself on you smickles. Withdraw now =P
Nov 22 13:29:30 <smickles>	hahah!
Nov 22 13:30:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00051 = 12.495 BTC [+]
Nov 22 13:31:37 <Namjies>	Hmm... I can't wait to organize a freeroll on Seals.
Nov 22 13:33:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21812 @ 0.00050633 = 11.0441 BTC [-]
Nov 22 13:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127312.0
Nov 22 13:37:40 <mircea_popescu>	ok, this is a bomb.
Nov 22 13:40:51 <Namjies>	It's... boring...
Nov 22 13:41:03 <Namjies>	So they don't currently have enough CAD. So what?
Nov 22 13:41:38 <mircea_popescu>	i'll tell you so what. how can't they not ?
Nov 22 13:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	how can they*
Nov 22 13:42:00 <smickles>	they have to exchange to cad
Nov 22 13:42:28 <smickles>	if you write a mtgox bot, you'll know they have a strange system
Nov 22 13:42:53 <smickles>	you can buy usd, and they pair you with a cad seller, and run to their bank to get the usd
Nov 22 13:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	smickles listen, i have usd, ron and eur accounts
Nov 22 13:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30788 @ 0.00050481 = 15.5421 BTC [-]
Nov 22 13:43:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15062 @ 0.00051 = 7.6816 BTC [+]
Nov 22 13:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	do you know what it takes to pay back usd on an eur intake ?
Nov 22 13:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	5 seconds.
Nov 22 13:44:23 <Namjies>	It wouldn't take me 5 seconds.
Nov 22 13:45:05 <Namjies>	Imagine I have a USD bank account and a CAD bank account. I have to transfer funds to one another and wait a few days for conversion & transfer to happen.
Nov 22 13:45:43 <jurov>	Namijes, did you saw the ticket date there?
Nov 22 13:45:52 <mircea_popescu>	DAYS ?!
Nov 22 13:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	man seriously, it is five seconds, i just make the order.
Nov 22 13:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	it takes me longer to authorise it than it takes  the bank to execute it.
Nov 22 13:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21691 @ 0.00051 = 11.0624 BTC [+]
Nov 22 13:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	basically the only explanation i can see is that they are literally out of money
Nov 22 13:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	and are trying to conserve cash as best they can
Nov 22 13:48:13 <mircea_popescu>	first by the entire dwolla bs, on the grounds that people know dwolla are assholla
Nov 22 13:48:19 <Namjies>	What?
Nov 22 13:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	now with cad, on the theory that "nobody cares about cad"
Nov 22 13:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	and so on
Nov 22 13:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies : what do youi mean what ? you can't be out of fiat. if you have one you have any.
Nov 22 13:49:53 <Namjies>	I've never seen instant processing of wire transfers.
Nov 22 13:50:05 <smickles>	Namjies: you poor is showing
Nov 22 13:50:09 <smickles>	;)
Nov 22 13:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies why are we discussing wires ? we're discussing exchanging usd to cad or w/e
Nov 22 13:50:53 <smickles>	heh, i don't know anything :o
Nov 22 13:51:19 <jurov>	Namjies, even if they had some administrative issues to move funds to CAD acct, it's not possible it would take a month
Nov 22 13:51:25 <Namjies>	BECAUSE they'd have to transfer from a USD account and wire funds to their CAD account...
Nov 22 13:51:40 <Namjies>	Yes, it would not take a month. It would still not be instant.
Nov 22 13:52:12 <jurov>	and before all they plainly say "no funds" so i guess no wire transfer was even intended
Nov 22 13:53:10 <mircea_popescu>	you don't wire funds from your usd to your cad account.
Nov 22 13:53:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's instant, you just move them from your own usd account to your own cad account.
Nov 22 13:53:29 <smickles>	don't you just ask the bank to exchane it?
Nov 22 13:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Nov 22 13:53:47 <jurov>	ofc, if they're in the same bank.. but that's beside the point for this situation
Nov 22 13:53:48 <smickles>	or your concierge
Nov 22 13:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	basically, that's a "we're broke" statement.
Nov 22 13:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : what do you mean besides the point ?
Nov 22 13:54:00 <jurov>	exactly
Nov 22 13:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	they claim to not have cad.
Nov 22 13:54:07 <Namjies>	That's assuming you have a single account at a single bank offering balances in all the currencies you want.
Nov 22 13:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	this means "we have no money". period.
Nov 22 13:54:20 <Namjies>	They might have different banks for each currency.
Nov 22 13:54:23 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies if you don't you have no business offering this service.
Nov 22 13:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	if i hail a cam i assume it has gas in the tank.
Nov 22 13:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	cam => cab.
Nov 22 13:54:47 <smickles>	lol, my local credit union will give me yen if i ask
Nov 22 13:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28937 @ 0.00050313 = 14.5591 BTC [-]
Nov 22 13:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	i bought ryals once just for the hell of it.
Nov 22 13:55:02 <jurov>	"beside the point" i mean they don't even mention bank wires or like
Nov 22 13:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	a right.
Nov 22 13:55:24 <Namjies>	They'll let you buy the currency, yes.
Nov 22 13:55:45 <Namjies>	They might not allow you to have an account denomited in that currency however.
Nov 22 13:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00050313 = 9.3834 BTC [-]
Nov 22 13:56:14 <smickles>	if that's the case, they need a better bank
Nov 22 13:57:22 <Namjies>	OR considering the fee they take on BTC transactions, they might not be interested to convert USD to CAD and get hit by conversion fees for someone withdrawing 100 CAD or so.
Nov 22 13:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	then...they...don't...offer...the...service
Nov 22 13:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	wtf.
Nov 22 13:58:29 <Namjies>	All would be bad business practice, yes.
Nov 22 13:58:57 <jurov>	it *is* bad business practice.. let the customer wait a month?
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Nov 22 13:59:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00051 = 7.038 BTC [+]
Nov 22 13:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, when i said "buy ryals" i didn't mean get some banknotes (i'm not even sure i could have)
Nov 22 13:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	i meant, exchange this 450k usd to ryals.
Nov 22 14:00:14 <Namjies>	Hmm
Nov 22 14:00:42 <Namjies>	Well if I ever need to do something like that, I'll inquire about it.
Nov 22 14:01:00 <Namjies>	I don't usually inquire about services I don't need.
Nov 22 14:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully you'd inquire before you run mtgox for 2 years
Nov 22 14:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3113 @ 0.00050313 = 1.5662 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19837 @ 0.00050225 = 9.9631 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	live.coinbr.com << was this always so animated ?
Nov 22 14:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	looks like someone's having a heart attack.
Nov 22 14:03:06 <kakobrekla>	fuck
Nov 22 14:03:21 <kakobrekla>	i started to talk about bitcoin on forex irc network
Nov 22 14:03:22 <kakobrekla>	20:02.11 ( @JohnnyM ) kakobrekla: plug me into the matrix so you can download all this knowledge into my head lol
Nov 22 14:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol cool.
Nov 22 14:04:03 <smickles>	ha
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Nov 22 14:09:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40392 @ 0.00050225 = 20.2869 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:13:27 <Namjies>	Why are those aggregated bid/asks cutting so abruptly into flat-tops?
Nov 22 14:13:58 <Ukto>	so Mr. Nefarious has started giving out asset lists?
Nov 22 14:14:00 <Namjies>	It's like even up to the last point, plenty of small step and suddenly... almost no orders
Nov 22 14:14:09 <Namjies>	Quite a brutal break
Nov 22 14:14:26 <Namjies>	Ukto: yes, he has
Nov 22 14:14:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3210 @ 0.00050225 = 1.6122 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00050014 = 8.4774 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:15:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18890 @ 0.00049931 = 9.432 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:15:04 <Ukto>	know who else besides gigavps that have received the info?
Nov 22 14:15:10 <Namjies>	I have
Nov 22 14:15:16 <Namjies>	for BTC-MINING
Nov 22 14:15:31 <Namjies>	no BTC-BOND/KRAKEN thus far.
Nov 22 14:16:05 <Ukto>	Namjies: which asset is yours?
Nov 22 14:17:25 <pigeons>	Ukto: http://blog.glbse.com/issers-who-have-been-given-lists-so-far
Nov 22 14:17:37 <Ukto>	ahh, thanks pigeons.
Nov 22 14:18:09 <smickles>	IBB before s2cm, your joking
Nov 22 14:18:35 <Ukto>	yeah, I was just noticing that myself
Nov 22 14:18:52 <smickles>	i mean, s2cm wasn't all that big, but ibb was tiny
Nov 22 14:19:20 <Ukto>	I expected to see some others before IBB
Nov 22 14:19:24 <Ukto>	but mebbe its cause its small
Nov 22 14:19:37 <pigeons>	well ibb is also one of the oldest still running
Nov 22 14:19:40 <smickles>	Ukto: he claimed to be going from largest to smallest
Nov 22 14:20:35 <Ukto>	pigeons: well, I am about to turn my system on. gonna add api trading tonight/tomorrow.
Nov 22 14:20:50 <smickles>	his tagline is pissing me off
Nov 22 14:20:54 <pigeons>	Ukto: url?
Nov 22 14:21:04 <Ukto>	all the tests have been great
Nov 22 14:21:08 <Ukto>	pigeons: you have an account. LOL
Nov 22 14:21:11 <smickles>	"long time member of the bitcoin community"
Nov 22 14:21:16 <smickles>	not anymore jackass
Nov 22 14:21:22 <Ukto>	pigeons: http://www.bitfunder.com
Nov 22 14:21:23 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 22 14:21:27 <pigeons>	thanks
Nov 22 14:21:32 <Ukto>	its in test mode, so no deposits, or withdraws atm
Nov 22 14:21:41 <Ukto>	wouldnt want someone to accidentally "donate" ;)
Nov 22 14:21:44 <smickles>	Ukto: a p2p lending site?
Nov 22 14:21:55 <smickles>	or exchange sort?
Nov 22 14:21:57 <pigeons>	ok, when i tested it was under hashpower downain
Nov 22 14:21:59 <Ukto>	nah, almost a literal glbse clone
Nov 22 14:22:03 <smickles>	ah
Nov 22 14:22:05 <Ukto>	but adding more features, and a nicer interface
Nov 22 14:22:10 <Ukto>	while easily recognizable
Nov 22 14:22:29 <smickles>	nice TOS
Nov 22 14:22:38 <Ukto>	this is bitcoin. any tos other than that is a lie
Nov 22 14:22:56 <Ukto>	i hate all the ppl who write all the proper crap, and it turns out to be bs
Nov 22 14:23:28 <Ukto>	I have been handling lots of btc for quite a few ppl for a while now, and am heavily invested, I dont plan to run away anytime w/ anything.
Nov 22 14:23:31 <Ukto>	I like the community. heh
Nov 22 14:23:42 <Ukto>	well, most of it
Nov 22 14:23:42 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 22 14:23:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00050276 = 4.4243 BTC [+]
Nov 22 14:24:08 <Ukto>	I have an asset list import system && claim system based on the way info was presented to Goat a few months ago
Nov 22 14:24:18 <Ukto>	havent seen the new list stuff yet to make sure its the same
Nov 22 14:25:15 <pigeons>	giga said its csv with email, #shares held, btc address provided,
Nov 22 14:28:34 <Namjies>	Hah, much shorter than my TOS
Nov 22 14:28:39 <Namjies>	http://www.namworld.net/tos
Nov 22 14:28:48 <Namjies>	Not really the same area...
Nov 22 14:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00050881 = 10.7105 BTC [+]
Nov 22 14:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16158 @ 0.00050881 = 8.2214 BTC [+]
Nov 22 14:34:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14359 @ 0.00051 = 7.3231 BTC [+]
Nov 22 14:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00050292 = 2.2128 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49691 @ 0.00051 = 25.3424 BTC [+]
Nov 22 14:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00050292 = 16.2946 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:38:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6577 @ 0.00049931 = 3.284 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32579 @ 0.00051 = 16.6153 BTC [+]
Nov 22 14:56:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00049931 = 8.5881 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 254 @ 0.00049931 = 0.1268 BTC [-]
Nov 22 14:58:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25846 @ 0.00049891 = 12.8948 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:00:42 <smickles>	;;calc .5 * [ticker --last]
Nov 22 15:00:43 <gribble>	6.048995
Nov 22 15:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8654 @ 0.00049891 = 4.3176 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12846 @ 0.00049888 = 6.4086 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00051 = 7.038 BTC [+]
Nov 22 15:15:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00051 = 10.2 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 15:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24511 @ 0.00050595 = 12.4013 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:23:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21839 @ 0.00050351 = 10.9962 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25161 @ 0.00050351 = 12.6688 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 15:34:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24754 @ 0.00049888 = 12.3493 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14896 @ 0.00049862 = 7.4274 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29350 @ 0.00049862 = 14.6345 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 15:40:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7854 @ 0.00049862 = 3.9162 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00049711 = 7.5312 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25901 @ 0.00049672 = 12.8655 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:40:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10395 @ 0.00049659 = 5.1621 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 15:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2455 @ 0.00049659 = 1.2191 BTC [-]
Nov 22 15:58:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15639 @ 0.00049965 = 7.814 BTC [+]
Nov 22 15:58:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15811 @ 0.00051 = 8.0636 BTC [+]
Nov 22 16:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50550 @ 0.00051 = 25.7805 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 16:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33285 @ 0.00051 = 16.9754 BTC [+]
Nov 22 16:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00050994 = 9.2299 BTC [-]
Nov 22 16:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00050994 = 5.9153 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 16:33:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44540 @ 0.00051 = 22.7154 BTC [+]
Nov 22 16:36:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00051 = 5.967 BTC [+]
Nov 22 16:38:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44842 @ 0.00051 = 22.8694 BTC [+]
Nov 22 16:41:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49600 @ 0.00051 = 25.296 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 16:57:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17623 @ 0.00051 = 8.9877 BTC [+]
Nov 22 17:01:37 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/the-ponzi-of-wikipedia-and-bitcoin/#update_22nov12 << Even though mircea_popescu disagrees, I know some of you care ;)
Nov 22 17:06:09 <Azelphur>	smickles: good that it got removed
Nov 22 17:06:42 <Namjies>	What? It was only truths!
Nov 22 17:06:48 <Azelphur>	lol
Nov 22 17:06:53 <Namjies>	People have indeed accused bitcoins of being a ponzi.
Nov 22 17:07:20 <Namjies>	That section didn't state if that was right or no, just that some people claimed so.
Nov 22 17:07:21 <smickles>	Namjies: source?
Nov 22 17:07:38 <Namjies>	There was a few linked articles.
Nov 22 17:07:43 <Namjies>	Now they got removed.
Nov 22 17:07:46 <smickles>	and don't link to a source saying that people say  it has been accused of being a ponzi
Nov 22 17:07:49 <Azelphur>	Namjies: that kind of thing is stupid to have on an article lol
Nov 22 17:07:58 <Azelphur>	on that basis I accuse the US president of being a prostitute
Nov 22 17:08:00 <Azelphur>	TO WIKIPEDIA
Nov 22 17:08:05 <Namjies>	I know, I know.
Nov 22 17:08:09 <Azelphur>	xD
Nov 22 17:08:27 <smickles>	lol, Namjies those refrences never said who accused it of being a ponzi
Nov 22 17:08:31 <Azelphur>	yea, wikipedia is meant to be about facts :p
Nov 22 17:08:39 <smickles>	not even so low as some forum nick
Nov 22 17:09:03 <smickles>	it was essentially hearsay
Nov 22 17:09:13 <smickles>	(did i spell that correctly?)
Nov 22 17:09:13 <Namjies>	Yeah, well just make sure your name is in the news as a crazy nutjob claiming the president is a prostitute.
Nov 22 17:09:25 <Azelphur>	:D
Nov 22 17:09:36 <Namjies>	Once it's quoted in reputable newspapers, we can add a section on wikipedia.
Nov 22 17:10:36 <smickles>	heh, they don't usually give the names of people saying baseless things
Nov 22 17:10:39 <Namjies>	"Name has blocked bridge/shot people/other claiming the President is a prostitute. The incident... President's reaction..."
Nov 22 17:10:48 <smickles>	isn't that part of the point in haveing it removed?
Nov 22 17:10:54 <Namjies>	I said make sure your name is in the news.
Nov 22 17:11:00 <smickles>	noone reputable actually accused bitcoin of being a ponzi
Nov 22 17:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30750 @ 0.00051 = 15.6825 BTC [+]
Nov 22 17:11:35 <Namjies>	You can get something included in wikipedia anyway by creating a large commotion worth mentioning.
Nov 22 17:11:36 <smickles>	reputable institutions said that someone heard it said that...
Nov 22 17:12:12 <Namjies>	So long as that incident is big enough.
Nov 22 17:12:31 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127096.0 Oh, by the way, i'm suprised i wasn't mentioned here, and mircea_popescu was edited out
Nov 22 17:12:48 <Namjies>	And whatever you were screaming/saying could very well end up quoted in a wikipedia article.
Nov 22 17:13:07 <Namjies>	As it's a relevant information to the fact (the "incident")
Nov 22 17:13:23 <Namjies>	You have to think around the limitations.
Nov 22 17:13:47 <smickles>	Namjies: do you think the original statement implied that it actually is a ponzi?
Nov 22 17:14:25 <Namjies>	No. But I know that's not how the general public would read it.
Nov 22 17:15:43 <smickles>	"Some criticize Bitcoin for being a [[Ponzi scheme]]..."
Nov 22 17:15:59 <smickles>	I don't quite se how that doesn't imply it is a ponzi
Nov 22 17:16:17 <smickles>	it basically says, it's a ponzi, and some criticize it b/c of that
Nov 22 17:17:22 <Namjies>	It just says some people think it is a Ponzi.
Nov 22 17:18:41 <smickles>	that would be "Some criticize Bitcoin, claiming it is a [[Ponzi scheme]].." tho
Nov 22 17:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4009 @ 0.00050994 = 2.0443 BTC [-]
Nov 22 17:19:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00050873 = 19.4844 BTC [-]
Nov 22 17:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7841 @ 0.00050853 = 3.9874 BTC [-]
Nov 22 17:19:23 <smickles>	"some criticize smickles for being a human"
Nov 22 17:19:38 <Namjies>	When you criticize something for being X, X is not necessarily proven.
Nov 22 17:20:20 <Namjies>	"some criticize smickles for being a douche" The point is not proven but someone is criticizing you for it.
Nov 22 17:20:57 <smickles>	google says it's "Indicate the faults of (someone or something) in a disapproving way", and fault as "An unattractive or unsatisfactory feature", that sound to me as if it was something that is proven
Nov 22 17:21:32 <Namjies>	Or criticize can simply mean you judged something to be X based on what you see.
Nov 22 17:21:37 <jurov>	yes, i parse such sentence like they're criticizing known fact
Nov 22 17:22:09 <smickles>	anywah, that's the crux of the debate
Nov 22 17:22:10 <jurov>	then i have to retrace anf think maybe it's not a fact, jsut assumption
Nov 22 17:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00051 = 14.382 BTC [+]
Nov 22 17:22:36 <Namjies>	"We'll proceed this way, it works because" -> "This cannot possibly work because"
Nov 22 17:22:51 <Namjies>	"some criticized the plan as being impossible"
Nov 22 17:23:30 <Namjies>	or for being impossible.
Nov 22 17:24:02 <Namjies>	Perfectly valid usage, yet it doesn't prove what you criticize is true.
Nov 22 17:24:21 <Namjies>	You can criticize anything for being anything.
Nov 22 17:24:28 <jurov>	id doesn't proves, just implies
Nov 22 17:24:34 <jurov>	*it
Nov 22 17:24:55 <jurov>	implication that can be pretty damning, too
Nov 22 17:24:58 <Namjies>	It implies the person who criticize it believes it's a fact/fault
Nov 22 17:26:09 <Namjies>	"Some people criticize the US government for not being a democracy" <--
Nov 22 17:26:37 <Namjies>	The person criticizing implies something, but it's not a proven fact.
Nov 22 17:26:54 <smickles>	lol, it is a republic tho
Nov 22 17:27:39 <Namjies>	I would have read it as being a Ponzi if they said the owner/administrator admitted it was a ponzi and could link to articles/investigation/reports/etc quoting/claiming so.
Nov 22 17:27:40 <jurov>	Namjies, yeah, but i wouldn't rely on that in election campaign, for example :p
Nov 22 17:28:27 <jurov>	there's thorretical semantics and there's practice
Nov 22 17:28:42 <Namjies>	and I don't rely on someone criticizing something as a Ponzi to be a proof it is...
Nov 22 17:29:10 <Namjies>	so I didn't read the statement as saying Bitcoin was a Ponzi.
Nov 22 17:29:23 <Namjies>	But yes, it was not worth the mention on wikipedia.
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Nov 22 17:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00050853 = 10.0689 BTC [-]
Nov 22 17:47:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00051 = 2.958 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 17:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26950 @ 0.00051 = 13.7445 BTC [+]
Nov 22 17:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51100 @ 0.00051 = 26.061 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 17:57:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00051 = 3.009 BTC [+]
Nov 22 18:04:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25655 @ 0.00051 = 13.0841 BTC [+]
Nov 22 18:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00051 = 20.451 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 18:14:45 <smickles>	oooh, Namjies Sudoghost commented on my article
Nov 22 18:14:55 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/the-ponzi-of-wikipedia-and-bitcoin/#comment-6
Nov 22 18:18:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00051 = 14.943 BTC [+]
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Nov 22 18:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24171 @ 0.00050853 = 12.2917 BTC [-]
Nov 22 18:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.00050698 = 2.2708 BTC [-]
Nov 22 18:21:14 <Namjies>	Go Sudoghost!
Nov 22 18:21:51 <Namjies>	If the tidbit was reworded to "has been accused of", I'd be quite fine with it.
Nov 22 18:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26799 @ 0.00050698 = 13.5866 BTC [-]
Nov 22 18:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8188 @ 0.00050817 = 4.1609 BTC [+]
Nov 22 18:37:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25720 @ 0.00051 = 13.1172 BTC [+]
Nov 22 18:40:20 <smickles>	I'm actually a little suprised that sudoghost say my blog, that page has only had 170 views, and that's about half as many as the biggest fish page has had
Nov 22 18:40:30 <smickles>	s/say/saw/
Nov 22 18:40:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32801 @ 0.00050698 = 16.6295 BTC [-]
Nov 22 18:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18029 @ 0.00050667 = 9.1348 BTC [-]
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Nov 22 18:48:13 <thestringpuller>	lord smickles!
Nov 22 18:49:40 <smickles>	My pleb, thestringpuller
Nov 22 18:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5571 @ 0.00050667 = 2.8227 BTC [-]
Nov 22 18:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35629 @ 0.00050438 = 17.9706 BTC [-]
Nov 22 18:50:36 <thestringpuller>	it has begun
Nov 22 18:50:44 <thestringpuller>	;;halfreward
Nov 22 18:50:44 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Thu Nov 29 02:40:44 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 6 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 22 18:50:53 <smickles>	the final week
Nov 22 18:51:22 <thestringpuller>	i couldnt get online in time last night to get the calls
Nov 22 18:51:30 <smickles>	You still expect the exghange rate to go apeshit here sooN?
Nov 22 18:51:50 <smickles>	aw, too bad
Nov 22 18:52:10 <smickles>	if you trust icbit, there are still futures pretty low
Nov 22 18:53:30 <thestringpuller>	i don't trust icbit based on your affidavit
Nov 22 18:53:35 <thestringpuller>	I spelled that rong
Nov 22 18:53:36 <smickles>	;;ticker --last
Nov 22 18:53:36 <gribble>	12.31000
Nov 22 18:53:40 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 22 18:53:41 <gribble>	12.01
Nov 22 18:53:47 <thestringpuller>	Ugh christmas time again
Nov 22 18:53:50 <smickles>	and that's still 30 cents away
Nov 22 18:53:53 <thestringpuller>	I'm starting to hate christmas
Nov 22 18:54:07 <smickles>	heh, what's christmas?
Nov 22 18:54:58 <smickles>	I finally got my wife to stop acting like a drunk person (bringing a whole tree into the house)
Nov 22 18:55:47 <thestringpuller>	UGH and hitman absolution is out?
Nov 22 18:55:49 <thestringpuller>	dude
Nov 22 18:55:52 <thestringpuller>	I need a time machine
Nov 22 18:58:16 <smickles>	lol, timesink, that one should be
Nov 22 19:00:56 <thestringpuller>	i should stop watching iron chef and start coding
Nov 22 19:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00050438 = 0.515 BTC [-]
Nov 22 19:01:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17879 @ 0.00050336 = 8.9996 BTC [-]
Nov 22 19:06:26 <thestringpuller>	lets ruthless take over mpex
Nov 22 19:06:26 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Nov 22 19:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123638 @ 0.00051 = 63.0554 BTC [+]
Nov 22 19:08:37 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: You've been entirely left out here: http://bitcoinmagazine.net/bitfinex-bitcoinica-rises-from-the-grave/
Nov 22 19:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127096.0 Oh, by the way, i'm suprised i wasn't mentioned here, and mircea_popescu was edited out << lmao i was in there ?!
Nov 22 19:12:07 <smickles>	yeah, I didn't look into it far enough to find out why you were redacted
Nov 22 19:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	smickles you wouldn't expect bitcoin magazine to make sense would you.
Nov 22 19:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	but the explanation is quite simple : everyone left. the only guy left is some schmuck from Ro by the name of mihai something
Nov 22 19:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	who's butthurt cause he was kinda told to pack it here http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/ciuciu-bond/#comment-87615
Nov 22 19:19:17 <thestringpuller>	usagi defrauded us
Nov 22 19:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00050893 = 12.0107 BTC [-]
Nov 22 19:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00050781 = 9.2675 BTC [-]
Nov 22 19:22:58 <pigeons>	EskimoBob defrauded me, he lied that he owend one share of something usagi had, and usagi the honaorable said he didn't, so by some way i haven't figured out yet, bob scammed me
Nov 22 19:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	what's a honaor
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Nov 22 19:24:35 <thestringpuller>	you invested in nyan.a popescu?
Nov 22 19:24:37 <pigeons>	oh sorry, should be "the honorable usagi"
Nov 22 19:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller were 100 btc of mpcd series
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Nov 22 19:26:36 <thestringpuller>	what was the mpcd series? I am still uninformed, I apologize.
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Nov 22 19:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	it was an attempt to create a CDO series
Nov 22 19:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	it's on the forum somewhwere, i think if you search for mpcd it'll pop
Nov 22 19:27:29 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu issued cdoish things invested into such top rated securites as usagi's issues and patrick harnett
Nov 22 19:28:17 <thestringpuller>	and they both defaulted?
Nov 22 19:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	interesting how that works innit.
Nov 22 19:28:35 <pigeons>	well at the very least, they both stopped paying
Nov 22 19:37:34 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13n7dn/bitcoin_magazine_leaves_out_a_crucial_detail/
Nov 22 19:37:50 <smickles>	:D
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Nov 22 19:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-biggest-fish-revisited/
Nov 22 19:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	there.
Nov 22 19:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what's worth mentioning is that mpoe actually existed one week before bitcoinica.
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Nov 22 19:46:02 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh yeah
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Nov 25 22:23:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053037 = 1.2437 BTC [-]
Nov 25 22:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21167 @ 0.00053026 = 11.224 BTC [-]
Nov 25 22:23:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2649 @ 0.00052956 = 1.4028 BTC [-]
Nov 25 22:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00052956 = 2.6478 BTC [-]
Nov 25 22:28:24 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: aye, some specific items are delayed due to the hurricane in the USA
Nov 25 22:28:30 <coingenuity>	we've let those customers know via email
Nov 25 22:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	a ok. just thought you'd want to know.
Nov 25 22:29:00 <coingenuity>	ya, thanks, let my staff know to speak to him
Nov 25 22:29:31 <coingenuity>	certain manufacturers are based in the manhatten area, they got hit REALLY hard in the hurricane
Nov 25 22:29:47 <coingenuity>	so there's a bit of a delay on specific items, but we're letting folks know as needed
Nov 25 22:30:38 <coingenuity>	as they fix the situation there with roads and electricity etc the delay will vanish pretty rapidly, but nothing we can do about freaksize hurricanes... yet!
Nov 25 22:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	still not fully restored power in manhattan have they ?
Nov 25 22:50:03 <smickles>	BAM!
Nov 25 22:50:07 <smickles>	I say BAM!
Nov 25 22:50:10 <smickles>	Macintosh was discussing Friedrich Hayek's model, not Bitcoins, and is a 14 year old document, discussing something 10 years before Bitcoin was introduced. I'm not following the correlation between Hayek's model possibly not being considered a security and Bitcoin, a different concept entirely. - SudoGhost 01:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Nov 25 22:50:15 <smickles>	You don't see the connection between a Libertarian who advocated free experiment in methods of transmitting value and Bitcoin?
Nov 25 22:50:18 <smickles>	Did I miss something, I thought the relevant footnote was about an digital currency and Ginburg brought it up as reference for digital currencies being unlikely to be regulated as securities in a discussion about Bitcoin being a security or not which directly impacts whether or not Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme. --Smickles86 (talk) 02:13, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Nov 25 22:50:23 <smickles>	Also, if you still see it hard to see, why don't we use the very next two sentences in the Grinberg text: "Bitcoin supporters may similarly argue, as elaborated below, that bitcoins do not look like securities or investments, especially because there is no money- making enterprise that is attempting to raise money, and that bitcoins are instead like commodities or currencies, which are generally not regulated under the federal securities laws. Fu
Nov 25 22:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053071 = 1.2445 BTC [+]
Nov 25 22:52:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9543 @ 0.00053092 = 5.0666 BTC [+]
Nov 25 22:53:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052966 = 1.2421 BTC [-]
Nov 25 22:53:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10305 @ 0.00052956 = 5.4571 BTC [-]
Nov 25 22:54:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol smickles
Nov 25 22:55:08 <smickles>	it was a little exciting
Nov 25 22:56:10 <smickles>	ya know, that one guy not seeing the connection between digital currency based on austrian economics and Bitcoin
Nov 25 22:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	a person that has not the experience of a good beating
Nov 25 22:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053084 = 1.2448 BTC [+]
Nov 25 22:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8957 @ 0.00053092 = 4.7555 BTC [+]
Nov 25 22:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1748 @ 0.0005321 = 0.9301 BTC [+]
Nov 25 22:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	has not the incentive and thus not the ability to back down when they've been proven wrong.
Nov 25 22:57:10 <smickles>	heh, I consider him moving the goalposts so many times to be backing down
Nov 25 22:58:30 <mircea_popescu>	i considered him an idiot since about a week ago, or was it two.
Nov 25 22:58:47 <smickles>	since the first week of November , iirc
Nov 25 22:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	time flies
Nov 25 23:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7252 @ 0.0005321 = 3.8588 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19789 @ 0.00053575 = 10.602 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053585 = 0.5359 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:00:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4209 @ 0.00053586 = 2.2554 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:05:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2960 @ 0.00339999 = 10.064 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052986 = 1.2425 BTC [-]
Nov 25 23:09:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1155 @ 0.00052956 = 0.6116 BTC [-]
Nov 25 23:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	Accuracy
Nov 25 23:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	The Merton model has been shown to be empirically accurate for non-financial firms, especially manufacturing entities. The highly leveraged nature of financial firms produces CDS spreads which are significantly higher than observed in the market due to the asset diffusion process.
Nov 25 23:13:33 <mircea_popescu>	they imply that the spreads observed in the market are correct
Nov 25 23:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	this is of course not the case : financials are overbought by degrees of fucking magnitude in the past decade+
Nov 25 23:15:51 <smickles>	'degrees of fucking magnitude'
Nov 25 23:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053553 = 1.2558 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:16:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8155 @ 0.00053586 = 4.3699 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Nov 25 23:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like miner bonds in btc. on the strength of their revenue generating abilities, us investment banks for instance are 100 to 1000x oversized, all through the 90s and 00s
Nov 25 23:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	just like on the strength of their revenue generating abilities, miner bonds shouldn't really have seen investment over the 100 btc mark for the entire slate.
Nov 25 23:23:55 <smickles>	I feel like these models would benifit from being based on lognormal curves rather than gausian ones
Nov 25 23:24:08 <smickles>	but i don't have the time to work on that math
Nov 25 23:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's not based on either.
Nov 25 23:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	merton is basically "let's consider holding a company as the equivalent of holding an european style call on its assets"
Nov 25 23:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	has some diffusion and a stochastic minlevel thing.
Nov 25 23:28:22 <smickles>	a Gaussian process is a stochastic process
Nov 25 23:28:30 <smickles>	The barrier itself is stochastic,
Nov 25 23:28:39 <smickles>	:P
Nov 25 23:28:54 <smickles>	i may have had it backwards a little
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Nov 25 23:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im not so sure moving from gauss to galton will necessarily benefit anything.
Nov 25 23:32:59 <smickles>	heh, i'm not sure either, but the longer tails feel better to me when i consider that LTCM got hit by a 'tail event' which may have been covered if their formula wasn't gaussian
Nov 25 23:33:27 <smickles>	of course, they did some other stupid shit too... but even so
Nov 25 23:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005299 = 1.2426 BTC [-]
Nov 25 23:33:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17809 @ 0.00052956 = 9.4309 BTC [-]
Nov 25 23:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3546 @ 0.0005293 = 1.8769 BTC [-]
Nov 25 23:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	no, that's my point : they lied.
Nov 25 23:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	to get any benefit from the fins discussion of statistics we'd have to have solved all the other problems
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Nov 25 23:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	LCTM is actually a fine example. the idea of arbitraging off-run bonds is probably workable, if you keep expenses low.
Nov 25 23:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	then they suddenly saw 1bn+ in capital and well... there just wasn't room to spend that much in their intended market
Nov 25 23:40:23 <mircea_popescu>	so they just... fucked it up instead.
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Nov 25 23:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3901 @ 0.0005293 = 2.0648 BTC [-]
Nov 25 23:47:40 <dub>	http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/10404/security/bitcoin-the-new-paradise-for-money-laundering.html lulzy
Nov 25 23:48:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053439 = 1.2531 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:48:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8505 @ 0.00053463 = 4.547 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:50:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4300 @ 0.00339999 = 14.62 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:50:42 <Namjies>	dub: I usually stop reading when the english is this badly written.
Nov 25 23:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	wait.
Nov 25 23:51:23 <dub>	maybe its ciuciu
Nov 25 23:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	anyone else see the funny in "security affairs"
Nov 25 23:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	what with the recent head of the cia scandal ?
Nov 25 23:52:18 <dub>	The lack of control on the financial flows to and from the cyberspace makes recycling operations through a virtual currency extremely efficient and very difficult to prevent, it must be also considered the absence of a regulation to approach the cyber laundering phenomena.
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Nov 25 23:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052961 = 1.2419 BTC [-]
Nov 25 23:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 185 @ 0.0005293 = 0.0979 BTC [-]
Nov 25 23:56:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7846 @ 0.00052878 = 4.1488 BTC [-]
Nov 25 23:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	how about they just suck my cock.
Nov 25 23:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	this attitude as if "control" is something that's feasible, possible, desirable or even allowable is getting on my nerves.
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Nov 25 23:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053461 = 1.2537 BTC [+]
Nov 25 23:58:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12155 @ 0.00053463 = 6.4984 BTC [+]
Nov 26 00:01:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3727 @ 0.00338876 = 12.6299 BTC [-]
Nov 26 00:01:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 573 @ 0.00338509 = 1.9397 BTC [-]
Nov 26 00:11:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00053463 = 7.5116 BTC [+]
Nov 26 00:16:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/
Nov 26 00:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	here!
Nov 26 00:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052913 = 1.2408 BTC [-]
Nov 26 00:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5555 @ 0.00052878 = 2.9374 BTC [-]
Nov 26 00:33:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14614 @ 0.00052884 = 7.7285 BTC [+]
Nov 26 00:33:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26436 @ 0.00053463 = 14.1335 BTC [+]
Nov 26 00:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00053123 = 7.3575 BTC [-]
Nov 26 00:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5649 @ 0.00052878 = 2.9871 BTC [-]
Nov 26 00:39:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 401 @ 0.00052871 = 0.212 BTC [-]
Nov 26 00:42:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053444 = 1.2533 BTC [+]
Nov 26 00:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11286 @ 0.00053463 = 6.0338 BTC [+]
Nov 26 00:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2169 @ 0.00053561 = 1.1617 BTC [+]
Nov 26 00:42:40 <Namjies>	mircea, what's that thing at the bottom: UPCOMING - K.KBRL - Pending, due klim.
Nov 26 00:46:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052872 = 1.2398 BTC [-]
Nov 26 00:46:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2399 @ 0.00052871 = 1.2684 BTC [-]
Nov 26 00:46:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9806 @ 0.00052855 = 5.183 BTC [-]
Nov 26 00:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	just a little inside jok
Nov 26 00:47:38 <mircea_popescu>	e
Nov 26 00:56:07 <Namjies>	eh
Nov 26 00:56:26 <toffoo>	mircea: I enjoy your entertaining blog, so I'll leave you one little tip I often mention to non-native writers of English: the correct key for an apostrophe (used in possessives and contractions) is this one: '  not this one: `
Nov 26 00:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	and i do use '
Nov 26 00:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	don't i?
Nov 26 00:58:27 <toffoo>	it's probably your keyboard's fault
Nov 26 00:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	my keyboard is and always was us ?
Nov 26 00:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	course, i see wp renders it as ’
Nov 26 00:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	or do you mean specifically numbers, such as 20`000 ?
Nov 26 00:59:28 <toffoo>	you sure you're using a U.S. keyboard?
Nov 26 00:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	yep
Nov 26 00:59:47 <toffoo>	or maybe your OS it set up with some other weird key mapping
Nov 26 00:59:48 <mircea_popescu>	i can't stnad localised kbds. never used anything but us101
Nov 26 00:59:54 <toffoo>	it happens all the time
Nov 26 01:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	mnope, my os is also us
Nov 26 01:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	do you see ' and ' different on your terminal ?
Nov 26 01:00:21 <toffoo>	weird .. well the apostrophes that come out on your blog are definitely wrong
Nov 26 01:00:29 <toffoo>	no, here those look the same to me
Nov 26 01:00:38 <mircea_popescu>	ok, quote me a sentence off the blog ?
Nov 26 01:00:58 <pigeons>	I only have ' and ` I don't have ’
Nov 26 01:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	on your kbd you mean pigeons ?
Nov 26 01:01:15 <pigeons>	yeah
Nov 26 01:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	me too. but for some reason wp decided " is to be curlified
Nov 26 01:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	and same for '
Nov 26 01:01:30 <toffoo>	hmm…ya, when I paste it here it looks right
Nov 26 01:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	well then maybe... YOUR terminal has some localisation weirdness ?
Nov 26 01:01:43 <toffoo>	maybe it's just the font or the way the blog is rendering it .. weird
Nov 26 01:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00339999 = 7.65 BTC [+]
Nov 26 01:02:08 <toffoo>	well I mentioned it because I only noticed it on your blog
Nov 26 01:02:28 <toffoo>	and I see the same thing all the time around here from non-English writers around here
Nov 26 01:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	you're the first one to have mentioned it, so i guess we got something here.
Nov 26 01:03:20 <mircea_popescu>	just so happens i'm millitant against dumbass special chars. wrote romanian for years w/o any of their little squigly shits
Nov 26 01:03:24 <mircea_popescu>	much to everyone's chagrin
Nov 26 01:03:43 <toffoo>	ya, i'm sure romanian is a lot worse
Nov 26 01:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	 îţâşă
Nov 26 01:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	there's a word dedicated to it.
Nov 26 01:06:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21313 @ 0.00052855 = 11.265 BTC [-]
Nov 26 01:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 533 @ 0.00052821 = 0.2815 BTC [-]
Nov 26 01:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16055 @ 0.00052821 = 8.4804 BTC [-]
Nov 26 01:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1395 @ 0.00052819 = 0.7368 BTC [-]
Nov 26 01:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.jeg.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/obama-biscuits.jpg
Nov 26 01:15:26 <Namjies>	Dafuq?
Nov 26 01:18:52 <dub>	is there a new url format for fishgame my old code no work
Nov 26 01:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053381 = 1.2518 BTC [+]
Nov 26 01:23:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11749 @ 0.00053407 = 6.2748 BTC [+]
Nov 26 01:23:48 <pigeons>	https://btcjam.com/listings/671
Nov 26 01:38:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005285 = 1.2393 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 01:38:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10955 @ 0.00052819 = 5.7863 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 01:39:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00052819 = 4.4632 BTC [-]
Nov 26 01:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00052764 = 1.2927 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 01:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons Amount @ Rate BTC 10000.00000 @ 1.0%
Nov 26 01:47:20 <mircea_popescu>	cute.
Nov 26 01:48:15 <pigeons>	yes, the rate displayed on that site is a monthly rate, but still
Nov 26 01:48:31 <mircea_popescu>	0 Active , 0 Repaid
Nov 26 01:48:33 <pigeons>	lot of coins to come out of nowhere and ask for
Nov 26 01:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	basically, the people with too much btc have to have a way to get rid of the burden
Nov 26 01:49:18 <pigeons>	this looks like a helpful way to accomplish that
Nov 26 01:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	This WOT is so complicated! I'm a usual game developer. I'm not able to get how to
Nov 26 01:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	register there and I've never used GPG or something like that. :)
Nov 26 01:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	Thanks for your offer though.
Nov 26 01:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	teh suck.
Nov 26 01:50:25 <pigeons>	is that from the forum?
Nov 26 01:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7105 @ 0.00339999 = 24.1569 BTC [+]
Nov 26 01:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	not even.
Nov 26 01:52:40 <pigeons>	so danieldaniel can figure out how to read the guide and register, but this guy is a "developer"
Nov 26 01:53:57 <pigeons>	here you go, 50% per month https://btcjam.com/listings/663
Nov 26 01:54:19 <mircea_popescu>	Need for site program
Nov 26 01:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	0 Active , 0 Repaid
Nov 26 01:54:58 <mircea_popescu>	basically... all these people making sites on the theory that bitcoin is the new hip social media and the userbase will sort it out itself need to go away
Nov 26 01:55:12 <mircea_popescu>	preferably back to wow or whatever the fuck they were doing.
Nov 26 01:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	"I need this so I can pay my hosting and other things. I have very good credit and can furnish."  pff
Nov 26 02:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053372 = 1.2516 BTC [+]
Nov 26 02:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14705 @ 0.00053407 = 7.8535 BTC [+]
Nov 26 02:05:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 5 @ 0.06577646 = 0.3289 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 2 @ 0.06577646 = 0.1316 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:08:54 <pigeons>	i guess i could just say, haha look at all the btcjam listings, but i will do you the service of filtering: https://btcjam.com/listings/691
Nov 26 02:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03353922 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:10:23 <mircea_popescu>	freemoney is borrowing 2btc ?!
Nov 26 02:14:23 <pigeons>	i doubt that is the same freemoney
Nov 26 02:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	i guess name squatting is the next big scam.
Nov 26 02:15:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053211 = 1.2478 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:15:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12376 @ 0.00053193 = 6.5832 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:15:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9119 @ 0.00052764 = 4.8115 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:17:39 <pigeons>	i'm going through btcjam and leaving comments since there's nothing on tv
Nov 26 02:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2352 @ 0.00338509 = 7.9617 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:19:23 <pigeons>	why are you going to borrow at 7%/month to pay your cell phone bill that's in collections and stopped accruing interest?
Nov 26 02:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053402 = 1.2523 BTC [+]
Nov 26 02:19:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9446 @ 0.00053407 = 5.0448 BTC [+]
Nov 26 02:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11417 @ 0.00053481 = 6.1059 BTC [+]
Nov 26 02:20:03 <pigeons>	and the BTC could go up in value vs the USD his bill is in
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Nov 26 02:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	did the person actually say that's what the btc is for ?!
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Nov 26 02:22:39 <pigeons>	yes
Nov 26 02:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	ask them to join the wot.
Nov 26 02:23:55 <pigeons>	oh ok actually they give a reason (can't get grad school loan with that collection on report) https://btcjam.com/listings/646
Nov 26 02:24:23 <pigeons>	can't be a scam either, they have a verified facebook page!
Nov 26 02:24:31 <Namjies>	right...
Nov 26 02:25:27 <Namjies>	Aww... I'm sad without GLBSE... no crazy sellers/buyers for fast 100%+ profit flips.
Nov 26 02:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	grad school loan ?
Nov 26 02:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2183 @ 0.00053481 = 1.1675 BTC [+]
Nov 26 02:26:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3810 @ 0.00053561 = 2.0407 BTC [+]
Nov 26 02:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	they want to borrow untraceable btc to repay phone bill in collections to be able to get money off the state that they will NEVER repay
Nov 26 02:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	while "studying" some bs social pseudosciences ?
Nov 26 02:28:00 <pigeons>	yeah basically, but they asked nicely
Nov 26 02:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	they need the "substance not form" doctrine extended to apply to this.
Nov 26 02:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	send him to jale on obscenity charges.
Nov 26 02:30:32 <pigeons>	i wish there were more loan requests, i could browse these all day
Nov 26 02:30:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005279 = 1.2379 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:30:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13481 @ 0.00052764 = 7.1131 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:30:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1524 @ 0.00052708 = 0.8033 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:31:12 <pigeons>	"Need 12 more bitcoins for medication 4 son'
Nov 26 02:32:30 <pigeons>	"Loan to Buy Girlfriend Perfect Supprise Birthday Present"
Nov 26 02:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	ya well that's all for me. gnite.
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Nov 26 02:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053086 = 1.2449 BTC [+]
Nov 26 02:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13392 @ 0.00053115 = 7.1132 BTC [+]
Nov 26 02:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5614 @ 0.00053561 = 3.0069 BTC [+]
Nov 26 02:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052727 = 1.2364 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14555 @ 0.00052708 = 7.6716 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 02:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123 @ 0.00052708 = 0.0648 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:55:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9877 @ 0.00052674 = 5.2026 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:58:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5937 @ 0.00052674 = 3.1273 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9260 @ 0.000526 = 4.8708 BTC [-]
Nov 26 02:58:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6445 @ 0.00052584 = 3.389 BTC [-]
Nov 26 03:01:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053411 = 1.2525 BTC [+]
Nov 26 03:01:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19605 @ 0.00053432 = 10.4753 BTC [+]
Nov 26 03:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9995 @ 0.00053432 = 5.3405 BTC [+]
Nov 26 03:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5120 @ 0.00053561 = 2.7423 BTC [+]
Nov 26 03:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052602 = 1.2335 BTC [-]
Nov 26 03:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11555 @ 0.00052584 = 6.0761 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 03:24:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 875 @ 0.00338509 = 2.962 BTC [-]
Nov 26 03:24:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00335776 = 8.2265 BTC [-]
Nov 26 03:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1595 @ 0.00335743 = 5.3551 BTC [-]
Nov 26 03:24:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 149 @ 0.0033273 = 0.4958 BTC [-]
Nov 26 03:26:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053539 = 1.2555 BTC [+]
Nov 26 03:26:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3987 @ 0.00053561 = 2.1355 BTC [+]
Nov 26 03:26:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25777 @ 0.00053586 = 13.8129 BTC [+]
Nov 26 03:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053498 = 1.2545 BTC [-]
Nov 26 03:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00053491 = 3.9048 BTC [-]
Nov 26 03:29:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11255 @ 0.00053174 = 5.9847 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 03:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053506 = 1.2547 BTC [+]
Nov 26 03:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16113 @ 0.00053522 = 8.624 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 03:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2030 @ 0.00339999 = 6.902 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 04:04:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.0033273 = 6.1555 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:08:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005319 = 1.2473 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3966 @ 0.00053174 = 2.1089 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:08:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2489 @ 0.00053128 = 1.3224 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 04:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4361 @ 0.00053128 = 2.3169 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13039 @ 0.00052923 = 6.9006 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:21:09 *	EskimoBob (~EskimoBob@unaffiliated/eskimobob) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Nov 26 04:21:31 <EskimoBob>	OMG! OMfG! did I miss someting? :)
Nov 26 04:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15861 @ 0.00052923 = 8.3941 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2191 @ 0.00052584 = 1.1521 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:25:51 <Namjies>	What?
Nov 26 04:26:11 <Namjies>	By the way, I didn't issue GSDPT
Nov 26 04:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005349 = 1.2543 BTC [+]
Nov 26 04:26:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12487 @ 0.00053522 = 6.6833 BTC [+]
Nov 26 04:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5424 @ 0.00053586 = 2.9065 BTC [+]
Nov 26 04:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005259 = 1.2332 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12603 @ 0.00052584 = 6.6272 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2802 @ 0.00052581 = 1.4733 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:34:28 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: did I sent you a GSDPT PM?
Nov 26 04:35:24 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: are you Namworld?
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Nov 26 04:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053439 = 1.2531 BTC [+]
Nov 26 04:41:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18048 @ 0.00053462 = 9.6488 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 04:42:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7002 @ 0.00053462 = 3.7434 BTC [+]
Nov 26 04:42:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 998 @ 0.00053586 = 0.5348 BTC [+]
Nov 26 04:44:10 <Namjies>	Yes
Nov 26 04:44:31 <Namjies>	to both
Nov 26 04:57:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053389 = 1.252 BTC [-]
Nov 26 04:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21831 @ 0.0005336 = 11.649 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:01:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8499 @ 0.0005336 = 4.5351 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27141 @ 0.00053289 = 14.4632 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24118 @ 0.00053079 = 12.8016 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00052581 = 5.9154 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 05:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19042 @ 0.00052738 = 10.0424 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 05:23:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16514 @ 0.00053444 = 8.8257 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 05:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005358 = 1.2565 BTC [+]
Nov 26 05:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24529 @ 0.00053586 = 13.1441 BTC [+]
Nov 26 05:36:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8908 @ 0.00053586 = 4.7734 BTC [+]
Nov 26 05:36:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1742 @ 0.00053589 = 0.9335 BTC [+]
Nov 26 05:44:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7865 @ 0.00053444 = 4.2034 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:44:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8507 @ 0.00052581 = 4.4731 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1428 @ 0.0005258 = 0.7508 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005261 = 1.2337 BTC [+]
Nov 26 05:45:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23972 @ 0.0005258 = 12.6045 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:45:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00052578 = 2.2871 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:45:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 408 @ 0.00052574 = 0.2145 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053444 = 1.2533 BTC [+]
Nov 26 05:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27905 @ 0.00053467 = 14.92 BTC [+]
Nov 26 05:59:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052586 = 1.2331 BTC [-]
Nov 26 05:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23955 @ 0.00052574 = 12.5941 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00052574 = 0.6572 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 06:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005289 = 1.2403 BTC [+]
Nov 26 06:17:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18855 @ 0.00052923 = 9.9786 BTC [+]
Nov 26 06:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9145 @ 0.00052923 = 4.8398 BTC [+]
Nov 26 06:21:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00053288 = 3.0108 BTC [+]
Nov 26 06:21:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2705 @ 0.00053467 = 1.4463 BTC [+]
Nov 26 06:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9803 @ 0.00053589 = 5.2533 BTC [+]
Nov 26 06:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00053589 = 2.0096 BTC [+]
Nov 26 06:29:14 <EskimoBob>	I do not gamble much but what is the difference between http://satoshiroulette.com Clone Dice and Satoshidice? Same game, fifferent name?
Nov 26 06:29:21 <EskimoBob>	*different
Nov 26 06:30:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00053196 = 6.6495 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:30:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00052846 = 8.931 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:36:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005287 = 1.2398 BTC [+]
Nov 26 06:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11158 @ 0.00052846 = 5.8966 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:36:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7765 @ 0.00052574 = 4.0824 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:36:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00052553 = 2.9955 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00052533 = 6.9344 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21832 @ 0.0005252 = 11.4662 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10818 @ 0.0005252 = 5.6816 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9782 @ 0.00052466 = 5.1322 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:52:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00052525 = 5.9879 BTC [+]
Nov 26 06:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3918 @ 0.00052466 = 2.0556 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00052421 = 2.4114 BTC [-]
Nov 26 06:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14132 @ 0.00052382 = 7.4026 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00052525 = 7.3272 BTC [+]
Nov 26 07:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00053468 = 3.6626 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 07:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053448 = 1.2534 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8155 @ 0.00053468 = 4.3603 BTC [+]
Nov 26 07:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11095 @ 0.00053468 = 5.9323 BTC [+]
Nov 26 07:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7705 @ 0.00053589 = 4.129 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 07:10:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18252 @ 0.00053589 = 9.7811 BTC [+]
Nov 26 07:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9940 @ 0.00053595 = 5.3273 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 07:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053507 = 1.2547 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25384 @ 0.00053488 = 13.5774 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:29:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1916 @ 0.00053488 = 1.0248 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:29:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9368 @ 0.00052382 = 4.9071 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:29:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17754 @ 0.00052379 = 9.2994 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:29:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7673 @ 0.00052375 = 4.0187 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1627 @ 0.00335557 = 5.4595 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 07:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8919 @ 0.00052375 = 4.6713 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9443 @ 0.00052366 = 4.9449 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 07:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053565 = 1.2561 BTC [+]
Nov 26 07:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1910 @ 0.00053595 = 1.0237 BTC [+]
Nov 26 07:37:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26025 @ 0.00053599 = 13.9491 BTC [+]
Nov 26 07:39:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00053599 = 9.1118 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 07:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052373 = 1.2281 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13607 @ 0.00052366 = 7.1254 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 547 @ 0.00052343 = 0.2863 BTC [-]
Nov 26 07:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052466 = 1.2303 BTC [+]
Nov 26 07:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88 @ 0.00052467 = 0.0462 BTC [+]
Nov 26 07:58:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22762 @ 0.00052467 = 11.9425 BTC [+]
Nov 26 07:58:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 438 @ 0.00053599 = 0.2348 BTC [+]
Nov 26 08:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00052614 = 4.7353 BTC [-]
Nov 26 08:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00052343 = 4.58 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 08:31:57 <kakobreklaaa>	http://www.africafornorway.no/
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Nov 26 11:47:54 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg1358331#msg1358331
Nov 26 11:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is going well.
Nov 26 11:50:29 <pigeons>	shocking!
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Nov 26 11:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	im really impressed with the "we won't spend 30 btc to get reg'd on mpex cause it's expensive"
Nov 26 11:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	"we shall invest it in hiar instead"
Nov 26 11:52:23 <mircea_popescu>	crowd
Nov 26 11:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-11-2012/122849-obama_soviet_mistake-0/ meanwhile in soviet russia...
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Nov 26 12:05:27 <smickles>	heh, btcjam scammers, who'd've thunk it
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Nov 26 12:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	apparently there's still people who have too much btc for their sense.
Nov 26 12:11:33 <mircea_popescu>	someone has to service them.
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Nov 26 12:12:14 <gigavps>	good morning gents
Nov 26 12:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	o hi
Nov 26 12:14:46 <mircea_popescu>	did the angry mob sue you yet ?
Nov 26 12:14:59 <smickles>	good forenoon
Nov 26 12:18:09 <gigavps>	the angry mob has quitted down a bit
Nov 26 12:18:17 <gigavps>	i was trending on bitcoinx.com for a couple days though
Nov 26 12:18:46 <smickles>	heh, i stopped looking at bitcoinx because of that
Nov 26 12:18:49 <smickles>	you made it useless
Nov 26 12:18:55 <gigavps>	hopefully things will get better when i post the list and some faqs
Nov 26 12:19:50 <gigavps>	deprived seems to think i've changed the contract for some reason because of the way quentin wrote the claims letter
Nov 26 12:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol trending shavers.
Nov 26 12:20:52 <mircea_popescu>	Topic		Score
Nov 26 12:20:52 <mircea_popescu>	CGMINER GPU FPGA overc monit fanspd RPC stratum linux/windows/osx/mip/r-pi 2.9.5		59
Nov 26 12:20:52 <mircea_popescu>	[GLBSE] BFLS.RIG - BFL Hardware mining & Sales		27
Nov 26 12:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	i fail to see what sense this makes.
Nov 26 12:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps : i think that argument revolves around the use of I. i guess many people figured you were doing the bonds personally
Nov 26 12:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	rather than as a business.
Nov 26 12:25:13 <gigavps>	well, they will believe whatever they want to believe
Nov 26 12:25:57 <mircea_popescu>	im sure there's plenty of that heaped on top hehe
Nov 26 12:26:32 <gigavps>	giga vps is my handle for a reason
Nov 26 12:26:37 <gigavps>	my personal handle is liferealized
Nov 26 12:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	"Then we need a lawyer, ideally available to get paid when he recovers our stolen funds. Anyone can suggest one?"
Nov 26 12:31:38 <mircea_popescu>	that part was really funny.
Nov 26 12:31:52 <Diablo-D3>	bwhahaha
Nov 26 12:31:55 <Diablo-D3>	oh man
Nov 26 12:31:59 <Diablo-D3>	I think I almost pissed myself
Nov 26 12:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	need to start on those kegels ?
Nov 26 12:37:08 <gigavps>	LOL
Nov 26 12:37:19 <gigavps>	i haven't heard about kegels in a while
Nov 26 12:38:10 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I thought that in guys made it worse not better
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Nov 26 12:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	hm... i have no idea honestly.
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Nov 26 12:40:30 <gigavps>	better stop doing those kegels mircea_popescu
Nov 26 12:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	bah
Nov 26 12:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	next im gonna have to stop eating babies
Nov 26 12:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	what's this world coming to.
Nov 26 12:41:25 *	gigavps hides his baby
Nov 26 12:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Kegel_exercises_diagram.png doesn't this look like the diagram of a pussy fart ?
Nov 26 12:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	"Exercises are usually done to reduce urinary incontinence,[3] reduce urinary incontinence after childbirth,[4] and reduce premature ejaculatory occurrences in men,[5] as well as to increase the size and intensity of erections.[6]" <<< there you go Diablo-D3
Nov 26 12:42:13 <gigavps>	the arrows are going in the wrong direction
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Nov 26 12:42:34 <Diablo-D3>	>size
Nov 26 12:42:58 <Diablo-D3>	dude, if my erect dick gets any bigger, Im going to have to start having sex with female horses.
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Nov 26 12:45:17 <mircea_popescu>	hey, i don't judge.
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Nov 26 12:47:38 <mod6>	haha
Nov 26 12:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 someone should make a "choicest bits of -ass and other sets" programme.
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Nov 26 12:52:53 <Diablo-D3>	when does the reward half happen?
Nov 26 12:53:05 <gigavps>	2 days
Nov 26 12:53:18 <gigavps>	;;halfreward
Nov 26 12:53:18 <Ukto>	[11:55] <gribble> Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 12:23:00 2012 | Time remaining: 2 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds
Nov 26 12:53:19 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 20:23:18 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 2 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 26 12:53:36 <gigavps>	nice
Nov 26 13:00:00 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: oh like a bash.org for classic moments in -ass land?
Nov 26 13:00:31 <pigeons>	look at the /q namespace on namecoin for quotes
Nov 26 13:01:09 <pigeons>	http://explorer.dot-bit.org/n/74239
Nov 26 13:02:21 <gigavps>	where is usagi?
Nov 26 13:02:29 <smickles>	here and there
Nov 26 13:02:38 <smickles>	mostly in lala land
Nov 26 13:02:49 <pigeons>	http://explorer.dot-bit.org/n/74241
Nov 26 13:02:57 <gigavps>	he/she/whomever seems to like to jump on the drama bandwagon
Nov 26 13:05:58 <smickles>	what is this /q namespace on namecoins a place to spend a little namecoin to permanently quote someone?
Nov 26 13:06:08 <pigeons>	seems so
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Nov 26 13:08:20 <pigeons>	http://explorer.dot-bit.org/n/74240
Nov 26 13:10:45 <gigavps>	lol
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Nov 26 13:16:04 <smickles>	woah
Nov 26 13:16:14 <smickles>	that's shocking and funny\
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Nov 26 13:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	{"info": "we can spin it as 'we are closing' and do the neatest, cleanest, best run shut-down ever..."}
Nov 26 13:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Nov 26 14:26:31 <smickles>	!ticker s.dice
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Nov 26 14:26:49 <smickles>	assbot?
Nov 26 14:27:13 <jurov>	assbot is afk, apparently
Nov 26 14:27:16 <smickles>	;;later tell kakrobrekla I think we lost assbot
Nov 26 14:27:16 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Nov 26 14:27:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE
Nov 26 14:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	check that out! it's like... diffusion ?
Nov 26 14:29:46 <smickles>	So, on wikipedia, the statement about some people thinking that bitcoin is a ponzi with lame ass sources, seems to need to be countered wit a powerful statement sourcing the SEC, the ECB, a law professor discussing bitcoin, and a law professor discussing a digital currency based on Austrian school economics
Nov 26 14:30:22 <smickles>	woah, that does look like diffusion
Nov 26 14:30:44 <DeaDTerra>	The Bitcoin network reward is slowly approaching it's halving to 25 Bitcoins per block.It has gone exactly 1423 days since satoshi created the first Bitcoin block and now it's only 2 days 1 hour and 20 minutes until the first halving completes. This is the first in hopefully many milestones of the Bitcoin network, exciting and interesting times lie a head of us and only time will tell
Nov 26 14:30:44 <DeaDTerra>	what will happen. Follow the count down at http://bitcoinclock.com/
Nov 26 14:30:46 <smickles>	it is certainly two divergent trends
Nov 26 14:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	its actually exciting to watch this!
Nov 26 14:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what's next.
Nov 26 14:31:53 <smickles>	one wide will win out, there are more bids than asks overall, but the asks 'pile up' much steaper
Nov 26 14:32:08 <smickles>	DeaDTerra: irc is better :P
Nov 26 14:32:11 <smickles>	;;halfreward
Nov 26 14:32:12 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 20:32:11 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 2 days, 1 hour, and 0 seconds.
Nov 26 14:32:53 <mircea_popescu>	i'm even more curious where btc ends on month close.
Nov 26 14:33:27 <DeaDTerra>	haha I guess ^^
Nov 26 14:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	every few months there's one of these that might make or break a few fortunes
Nov 26 14:33:42 <smickles>	well, how likely are people to freak out? taking the question in general... I'd say that we're doomed
Nov 26 14:33:55 <DeaDTerra>	I posted it on my FB but decided it to cross post it here ^^, It's going to very interesting to see what the future holds for Bitcoins
Nov 26 14:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	i frankly can see anything between 10 and 20
Nov 26 14:34:09 <DeaDTerra>	it feel like 2013 will be the year of failure or sucess for Bitcoins
Nov 26 14:35:12 <smickles>	clearly we should take icbit's futures marked as an acceptable prediction of the price after the reward halving
Nov 26 14:35:21 <smickles>	it says 12.25
Nov 26 14:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
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Nov 26 15:00:00 <dub>	is it safe to click his link, might be a scam
Nov 26 15:00:32 <mircea_popescu>	which link ?
Nov 26 15:00:40 <dub>	the DeaDTerra one
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Nov 26 15:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	"Apparently usagi's now selling off FPGAs bought using BMF funds on behalf of BMF shareholders and using the proceeds to repay the "liquidity loans" he took out for CPA, presumably because he offered to make himself personally liable for those loans"
Nov 26 15:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	this is like the drama goose
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Nov 26 15:05:37 <Guest28801>	ops
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Nov 26 15:06:01 <kakobrekla>	link me to drama.
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Nov 26 15:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	assbot is dead
Nov 26 15:09:19 <kakobrekla>	oh
Nov 26 15:09:27 <kakobrekla>	havent noticed
Nov 26 15:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1358922#msg1358922 drama
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Nov 26 15:10:57 <kakobrekla>	dunno why it dies here and there, has to do something with ssl
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Nov 26 15:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00053197 = 14.842 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 15:22:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00053197 = 1.2235 BTC [-]
Nov 26 15:23:32 <DeaDTerra>	<dub>: your kidding me right... since when to I send links to viruses...
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Nov 26 15:30:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00053853 = 8.078 BTC [+]
Nov 26 15:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28513 @ 0.00053853 = 15.3551 BTC [+]
Nov 26 15:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053859 = 0.5386 BTC [+]
Nov 26 15:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3472 @ 0.0005386 = 1.87 BTC [+]
Nov 26 15:39:36 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126616.msg1358837#msg1358837
Nov 26 15:41:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.0005386 = 9.6409 BTC [+]
Nov 26 15:41:24 <dub>	lol
Nov 26 15:44:41 <dub>	that guys mom needs to take away his computer
Nov 26 15:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00053597 = 3.4302 BTC [-]
Nov 26 15:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	all the everyday losers are too soon.
Nov 26 15:47:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00052898 = 1.5869 BTC [-]
Nov 26 15:47:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00052824 = 2.9053 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 15:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00053525 = 9.5007 BTC [+]
Nov 26 15:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Nov 26 15:51:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.0005386 = 7.2442 BTC [+]
Nov 26 15:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	nov 25th, i write on the problem of too much money
Nov 26 15:52:03 <mircea_popescu>	nov the 26th, graham does too.
Nov 26 15:52:09 <mircea_popescu>	thought leader i.
Nov 26 15:52:29 <smickles>	graham?
Nov 26 15:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://ycombinator.com/ycvc.html
Nov 26 15:54:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00052824 = 3.5392 BTC [-]
Nov 26 15:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2012/11/even-a-vpn-service-cant-protect-your-privacy-if-youre-using-bank-of-america/
Nov 26 15:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 26 16:00:30 *	jcpham rushes out to BoA to sign up
Nov 26 16:01:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00053173 = 5.1312 BTC [+]
Nov 26 16:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00052824 = 0.2641 BTC [-]
Nov 26 16:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3050 @ 0.00336849 = 10.2739 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 16:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00052824 = 5.9427 BTC [-]
Nov 26 16:06:58 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/proposal-for-rewording-the-ponzi-accusation-statement/
Nov 26 16:07:12 <smickles>	More wiki 'debate' pr0n
Nov 26 16:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00052824 = 1.1357 BTC [-]
Nov 26 16:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00052679 = 5.505 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 16:15:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00052881 = 4.4949 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 16:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00053133 = 3.4536 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 16:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00052881 = 2.1152 BTC [-]
Nov 26 16:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00053133 = 12.0081 BTC [+]
Nov 26 16:41:00 <smickles>	interesting, http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/11/26/payments-startup-balanced-innovates-in-wrong-direction/ leading to https://github.com/balanced/balanced-api/issues/204
Nov 26 16:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	aw
Nov 26 16:46:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00052887 = 2.1684 BTC [-]
Nov 26 16:46:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2441 @ 0.00053133 = 1.297 BTC [+]
Nov 26 16:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00052881 = 4.5213 BTC [-]
Nov 26 16:55:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00052679 = 8.0335 BTC [-]
Nov 26 16:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00052665 = 1.58 BTC [-]
Nov 26 16:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00052548 = 0.9459 BTC [-]
Nov 26 16:56:19 <smickles>	anyone notice http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stanish-x-iso4217-a3-00#section-2.3 and http://www.ifex-project.org/our-proposals/x-iso4217-a3?
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Nov 26 17:00:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00052548 = 1.8129 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	i knew about it
Nov 26 17:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	they'll just have to change their codes.
Nov 26 17:04:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 259 @ 0.00053133 = 0.1376 BTC [+]
Nov 26 17:04:28 <mircea_popescu>	nowait.
Nov 26 17:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	this is new
Nov 26 17:04:37 <mircea_popescu>	wtf ? buttcoins made it to ietf ?!
Nov 26 17:08:08 <dub>	anyone can write a draft
Nov 26 17:08:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00053266 = 11.0261 BTC [+]
Nov 26 17:08:17 <pigeons>	yeah someone from microsoft submitted it
Nov 26 17:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool in any event
Nov 26 17:09:00 <dub>	surprised AAPL hasnt filed patent for 'coins made out of bits'
Nov 26 17:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	it's squarely in the bikeshed territory, the xbtc reference
Nov 26 17:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	so pretty unlikely to be touched
Nov 26 17:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	dub im sure it has.
Nov 26 17:14:13 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/13/eL/3A2bL8mS/better.png
Nov 26 17:14:19 <kakobrekla>	i know i know, just trollin
Nov 26 17:18:12 <smickles>	lol
Nov 26 17:20:29 <pigeons>	they need the cherry truck award
Nov 26 17:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00053416 = 5.7155 BTC [+]
Nov 26 17:21:55 <Diablo-D3>	meh
Nov 26 17:21:56 <jurov>	nah, it was some noncompliant browser
Nov 26 17:22:00 <Diablo-D3>	whens the reward halving?
Nov 26 17:22:06 <dub>	nao
Nov 26 17:22:08 <jurov>	;;halfreward
Nov 26 17:22:09 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 20:12:08 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 21 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 26 17:22:20 <Diablo-D3>	oh hay
Nov 26 17:22:21 <Diablo-D3>	its moved back
Nov 26 17:22:29 <pigeons>	;;asicshipped
Nov 26 17:22:30 <gribble>	Error: "asicshipped" is not a valid command.
Nov 26 17:22:34 <Diablo-D3>	lawls
Nov 26 17:22:39 <Diablo-D3>	also
Nov 26 17:22:44 <kakobrekla>	browser is ok, site is not valid
Nov 26 17:22:57 <jurov>	i know i know, just trollin
Nov 26 17:23:04 <kakobrekla>	;)
Nov 26 17:23:11 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if Ill get a block before then
Nov 26 17:24:26 *	Ukto blocks Diablo-D3
Nov 26 17:24:32 <Diablo-D3>	lawls
Nov 26 17:24:43 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: Im asyc, bitch!
Nov 26 17:24:51 *	Diablo-D3 inserts an n in there.
Nov 26 17:25:02 <Diablo-D3>	douchebag keyboard, dropping letters
Nov 26 17:25:41 <Ukto>	hah, See: user error
Nov 26 17:25:42 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 26 17:25:50 <Diablo-D3>	no seriously
Nov 26 17:26:04 <Diablo-D3>	sometimes I have to replug it because it wont repeat and half the keyboard is dead
Nov 26 17:26:11 <Diablo-D3>	the microcontroller is nuts
Nov 26 17:27:01 <mod6>	;;ticker
Nov 26 17:27:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.30408, Best ask: 12.31269, Bid-ask spread: 0.00861, Last trade: 12.10701, 24 hour volume: 34526.91363606, 24 hour low: 11.89000, 24 hour high: 12.65150, 24 hour vwap: 12.37671
Nov 26 17:28:09 <dub>	wewt
Nov 26 17:28:18 <Diablo-D3>	yeah thats not so bad
Nov 26 17:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00053416 = 12.4993 BTC [+]
Nov 26 17:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00053434 = 0.1069 BTC [+]
Nov 26 17:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053288 = 1.2496 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1491 @ 0.00053266 = 0.7942 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:32:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00052548 = 0.1839 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:32:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6376 @ 0.00052508 = 3.3479 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00052502 = 4.1214 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:32:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3492 @ 0.00052358 = 1.8283 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if blockblocking will follow cockblocking in the vernacular.
Nov 26 17:35:28 <dub>	wat is blockblocking
Nov 26 17:35:50 <Diablo-D3>	"mining"
Nov 26 17:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	when someone impedes someone else from solving a block theyweren't going to solve anyway.
Nov 26 17:36:53 <jurov>	how would that be done, like, technically?
Nov 26 17:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's not technically, it's imaginatively.
Nov 26 17:37:15 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: "are you going to eat that pussy? I mean, its just sitting there on the plate, you've barely touched it"
Nov 26 17:38:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 26 17:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052374 = 1.2282 BTC [+]
Nov 26 17:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7602 @ 0.00052358 = 3.9803 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2649 @ 0.00052019 = 1.378 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4404 @ 0.00052018 = 2.2909 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 17:47:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13946 @ 0.00052018 = 7.2544 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4204 @ 0.0005198 = 2.1852 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053421 = 1.2527 BTC [+]
Nov 26 17:49:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00053434 = 8.4159 BTC [+]
Nov 26 17:49:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 555 @ 0.00053458 = 0.2967 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 17:56:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053036 = 1.2437 BTC [-]
Nov 26 17:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5813 @ 0.0005302 = 3.0821 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 17:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00051989 = 6.8625 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:02:46 <smickles>	;;rewardhalf
Nov 26 18:02:46 <gribble>	Error: "rewardhalf" is not a valid command.
Nov 26 18:02:54 <smickles>	;;halfreward
Nov 26 18:02:54 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 19:52:54 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 20 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds.
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Nov 26 18:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25346 @ 0.0005198 = 13.1749 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10254 @ 0.00051955 = 5.3275 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 18:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11642 @ 0.00051989 = 6.0526 BTC [+]
Nov 26 18:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15608 @ 0.00052699 = 8.2253 BTC [+]
Nov 26 18:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00051979 = 10.0319 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:17:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00051955 = 3.5329 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:17:43 *	dub kicks linode
Nov 26 18:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	hallo. we has hack today for you
Nov 26 18:18:57 <Ukto>	another linode hack ? 0,o
Nov 26 18:19:35 <dub>	no just shit connectivity
Nov 26 18:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-frugally-adviseful/
Nov 26 18:20:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5821 @ 0.00051955 = 3.0243 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14370 @ 0.00051955 = 7.4659 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00051953 = 5.7148 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:23:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00051912 = 3.6858 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:23:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00051888 = 9.2361 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00051873 = 4.3314 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:23:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7798 @ 0.00051861 = 4.0441 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:25:25 <dub>	the fuck is nasal?
Nov 26 18:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	weird huh
Nov 26 18:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	a brand of aged cheese
Nov 26 18:26:08 <mircea_popescu>	quite good actually.
Nov 26 18:26:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00051861 = 6.9494 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:26:19 <dub>	figured
Nov 26 18:26:33 <dub>	google translate failed me
Nov 26 18:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	you figured it's cheese ?
Nov 26 18:27:35 <smickles>	updated to about 1.4% http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/#update_26nov12
Nov 26 18:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	it sure swings dunnit.
Nov 26 18:30:15 <dub>	mircea_popescu: yea
Nov 26 18:30:33 <dub>	smelly cheese was first guess
Nov 26 18:30:44 <mircea_popescu>	wd.
Nov 26 18:30:58 <mircea_popescu>	tho it's named for a place
Nov 26 18:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	like champagne or cognac.
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Nov 26 18:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3902 @ 0.00051861 = 2.0236 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2991 @ 0.00051854 = 1.551 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11807 @ 0.00051847 = 6.1216 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 18:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 26 18:38:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.19998, Best ask: 12.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.19999, 24 hour volume: 35150.08809202, 24 hour low: 11.89000, 24 hour high: 12.65150, 24 hour vwap: 12.36118
Nov 26 18:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	o hey. back under 12 ?
Nov 26 18:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2443 @ 0.00051847 = 1.2666 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:38:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0005182 = 5.4929 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31150 @ 0.00051812 = 16.1394 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:38:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00051807 = 6.6572 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:38:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8607 @ 0.00051788 = 4.4574 BTC [-]
Nov 26 18:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7870 @ 0.0005224 = 4.1113 BTC [+]
Nov 26 18:47:24 <smickles>	so the interestingness begins
Nov 26 18:47:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00053058 = 4.2977 BTC [+]
Nov 26 18:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00053131 = 13.2828 BTC [+]
Nov 26 18:57:45 <Doffx>	Someone sold around 10000
Nov 26 18:58:15 <Doffx>	10500 around
Nov 26 18:58:40 <Doffx>	I need 10500 bitcoins to sell, you would most likely not see me online again.
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Nov 26 19:03:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00053131 = 2.2315 BTC [+]
Nov 26 19:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5582 @ 0.00053058 = 2.9617 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:03:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16668 @ 0.00053049 = 8.8422 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 19:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3032 @ 0.00053049 = 1.6084 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 19:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00052686 = 7.1126 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:07:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00052527 = 7.8265 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.51492215 = 514.9222 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 19:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00336849 = 0.6737 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00339999 = 7.31 BTC [+]
Nov 26 19:24:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3248 @ 0.00052527 = 1.7061 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:24:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 702 @ 0.00052461 = 0.3683 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.51492215 = 514.9222 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 19:30:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2798 @ 0.00052461 = 1.4679 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00052037 = 10.7196 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:35:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4593 @ 0.00051788 = 2.3786 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10337 @ 0.00051787 = 5.3532 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13837 @ 0.00051778 = 7.1645 BTC [-]
Nov 26 19:40:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.51492215 = 514.9222 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 19:46:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5302 @ 0.00051811 = 2.747 BTC [+]
Nov 26 19:47:17 <kakobrekla>	https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/11/19/AsbI5XyjNUS-_liBKjWLUw2.jpg
Nov 26 19:47:33 <smickles>	oh gawd, chzbgr?
Nov 26 19:47:50 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Nov 26 19:47:53 <kakobrekla>	i just repasted.
Nov 26 19:48:11 <smickles>	heh, good link tho, very entertaining
Nov 26 19:48:25 <kakobrekla>	seems kinda appropriate for the chan.
Nov 26 19:49:49 <kakobrekla>	but props
Nov 26 19:49:59 <kakobrekla>	i dont know any of their letters
Nov 26 19:50:37 <smickles>	naw, you'd be cool, considring it's a numbers quiz
Nov 26 19:50:49 <dub>	not enough tentacle rape
Nov 26 19:51:15 <smickles>	hmm,
Nov 26 19:51:21 *	smickles tries the quiz
Nov 26 19:51:44 <smickles>	i can only count to 3 :o
Nov 26 19:51:50 <smickles>	it starts at 4 :(
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Nov 26 19:57:05 <dub>	chi
Nov 26 20:03:28 *	oizotov (~irssi@gateway/tor-sasl/oizotov) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Nov 26 20:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	ajajaj
Nov 26 20:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3048 @ 0.00052322 = 1.5948 BTC [+]
Nov 26 20:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7313 @ 0.00051778 = 3.7865 BTC [-]
Nov 26 20:05:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26639 @ 0.00051777 = 13.7929 BTC [-]
Nov 26 20:07:05 <mircea_popescu>	gnite all.
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Nov 26 20:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1111 @ 0.00051777 = 0.5752 BTC [-]
Nov 26 20:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00051767 = 6.5744 BTC [-]
Nov 26 20:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6979 @ 0.0005175 = 3.6116 BTC [-]
Nov 26 20:09:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00052723 = 6.1686 BTC [+]
Nov 26 20:09:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00052748 = 9.8111 BTC [+]
Nov 26 20:16:18 <smickles>	Why hello there, Madam! I'm chippered as crumpets to see your meatmelons looking so jumbly this morning! Would you care to grope my jollybadger? No? Perhaps on the morrow? This jollybadger loves a good knackering if you get the meaning.ha ha!
Nov 26 20:18:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00336819 = 5.2207 BTC [-]
Nov 26 20:23:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11971 @ 0.0005175 = 6.195 BTC [-]
Nov 26 20:23:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00051724 = 0.4397 BTC [-]
Nov 26 20:25:55 <dub>	sool btory cro
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Nov 26 20:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00051724 = 4.4483 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 20:43:37 <copumpkin>	smickles: I keep getting screwed calculating dilutive EPS
Nov 26 20:43:54 <copumpkin>	I know how to do it, but I keep making stupid mistakes
Nov 26 20:43:56 <copumpkin>	waaah
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Nov 26 20:46:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.0005264 = 6.58 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 20:52:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0005264 = 4.0533 BTC [+]
Nov 26 20:57:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00336819 = 1.1789 BTC [-]
Nov 26 20:57:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00334119 = 8.0189 BTC [-]
Nov 26 20:58:24 <Namjies>	Well, anyone selling some S.BVPS?
Nov 26 21:00:27 <mod6>	!ticker S.BVPS
Nov 26 21:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.002 / 0.00215061 / 0.0032 (32816 shares, 70.57 BTC)
Nov 26 21:02:48 <mod6>	there are some asks up there
Nov 26 21:03:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16025 @ 0.00052132 = 8.3542 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:03:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00052118 = 7.5571 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:03:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8775 @ 0.0005183 = 4.5481 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:03:32 <Namjies>	I'm looking for lower priced shares
Nov 26 21:04:06 <mod6>	you can put in a bid for any amt you like > 0
Nov 26 21:04:31 <Namjies>	I know
Nov 26 21:05:05 <mod6>	ok cool
Nov 26 21:05:32 <Namjies>	Just can't have bids up everywhere
Nov 26 21:06:04 <Namjies>	Sometimes you can arrange a deal between bid/ask too.
Nov 26 21:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052355 = 1.2277 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.00052357 = 16.0212 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:12:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44855 @ 0.00052405 = 23.5063 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051833 = 1.2155 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:16:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3548 @ 0.0005183 = 1.8389 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:16:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5662 @ 0.00051724 = 2.9286 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7645 @ 0.00051721 = 3.9541 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:18:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052393 = 1.2286 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:18:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13345 @ 0.00052405 = 6.9934 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5560 @ 0.00052541 = 2.9213 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 21:20:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051756 = 1.2137 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:20:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7855 @ 0.00051721 = 4.0627 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:20:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00051679 = 14.1084 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052536 = 1.232 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3890 @ 0.00052541 = 2.0438 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.0005264 = 3.1058 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5309 @ 0.00052676 = 2.7966 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051713 = 1.2127 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:24:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00051679 = 0.6201 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:24:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00051667 = 6.045 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:30:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051657 = 1.2114 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40755 @ 0.00051665 = 21.0561 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:30:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 267 @ 0.00052676 = 0.1406 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 21:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052421 = 1.2293 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12136 @ 0.00052452 = 6.3656 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:44:51 <smickles>	!ticker s.dice
Nov 26 21:44:52 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0033273 / 0.0033873 / 0.00339999 (62384 shares, 211.31 BTC), 30day: 0.00180002 / 0.00332284 / 0.0034 (1007039 shares, 3,346.24 BTC)
Nov 26 21:46:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051648 = 1.2111 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:46:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2384 @ 0.00051622 = 1.2307 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:46:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3171 @ 0.00051594 = 1.636 BTC [-]
Nov 26 21:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00339324 = 7.8045 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 21:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052417 = 1.2292 BTC [+]
Nov 26 21:56:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 364 @ 0.00052452 = 0.1909 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 22:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052554 = 1.2324 BTC [+]
Nov 26 22:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19655 @ 0.00052546 = 10.3279 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 22:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052642 = 1.2345 BTC [+]
Nov 26 22:15:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11824 @ 0.00052676 = 6.2284 BTC [+]
Nov 26 22:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12481 @ 0.00052738 = 6.5822 BTC [+]
Nov 26 22:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19419 @ 0.00052738 = 10.2412 BTC [+]
Nov 26 22:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00052748 = 2.4792 BTC [+]
Nov 26 22:17:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14318 @ 0.00052751 = 7.5529 BTC [+]
Nov 26 22:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2163 @ 0.00052924 = 1.1447 BTC [+]
Nov 26 22:17:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052551 = 1.2323 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2336 @ 0.00052546 = 1.2275 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:17:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11319 @ 0.00052201 = 5.9086 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052205 = 1.2242 BTC [+]
Nov 26 22:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10101 @ 0.00052201 = 5.2728 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6904 @ 0.00051594 = 3.562 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:21:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00051557 = 8.6874 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:22:38 <copumpkin>	hey smickles, got a present for you: http://snapplr.com/gg28
Nov 26 22:25:10 <kakobrekla>	Near the end of October 2011, Casascius Physical Bitcoins were featured on CNet, and I had to raise the price on the original 1 BTC Casascius Physical Bitcoin due to overwhelming demand. This only applied to the 1 BTC coin, not the 25.
Nov 26 22:25:38 <kakobrekla>	not too shabby now i gotta order bulk :\
Nov 26 22:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1189 @ 0.00051557 = 0.613 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5811 @ 0.00051536 = 2.9948 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11089 @ 0.00051536 = 5.7148 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14076 @ 0.00051523 = 7.2524 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:29:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3631 @ 0.00051518 = 1.8706 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:29:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1910 @ 0.00051484 = 0.9833 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 22:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00051484 = 5.2514 BTC [-]
Nov 26 22:53:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00339999 = 3.91 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 23:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00051663 = 3.6681 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 23:24:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20325 @ 0.0005175 = 10.5182 BTC [+]
Nov 26 23:24:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2058 @ 0.00051592 = 1.0618 BTC [-]
Nov 26 23:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17842 @ 0.00051592 = 9.205 BTC [-]
Nov 26 23:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17590 @ 0.00051484 = 9.056 BTC [-]
Nov 26 23:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9918 @ 0.00051476 = 5.1054 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 23:30:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00052178 = 0.8348 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 23:36:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3700 @ 0.00339999 = 12.58 BTC [+]
Nov 26 23:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8882 @ 0.00051476 = 4.5721 BTC [-]
Nov 26 23:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10665 @ 0.00051458 = 5.488 BTC [-]
Nov 26 23:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58 @ 0.00051433 = 0.0298 BTC [-]
Nov 26 23:48:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00051966 = 8.7823 BTC [+]
Nov 26 23:48:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00052181 = 3.183 BTC [+]
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Nov 26 23:49:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6132 @ 0.00051433 = 3.1539 BTC [-]
Nov 26 23:49:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00051428 = 9.3599 BTC [-]
Nov 26 23:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3968 @ 0.00051411 = 2.04 BTC [-]
Nov 26 23:52:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00051411 = 6.7605 BTC [-]
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Nov 26 23:56:41 <dub>	http://p.gw.gd/view/raw/f94297de
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Nov 27 00:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00051464 = 3.2422 BTC [+]
Nov 27 00:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005216 = 1.2232 BTC [+]
Nov 27 00:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12755 @ 0.00052181 = 6.6557 BTC [+]
Nov 27 00:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051426 = 1.2059 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9882 @ 0.00051411 = 5.0804 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3773 @ 0.00051404 = 1.9395 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 00:26:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051829 = 1.2154 BTC [+]
Nov 27 00:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15358 @ 0.00051855 = 7.9639 BTC [+]
Nov 27 00:29:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00051855 = 10.8896 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 00:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00051855 = 8.6079 BTC [+]
Nov 27 00:32:13 *	Smoovious (~imp586@75-12-89-18.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Nov 27 00:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051592 = 1.2098 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:38:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25102 @ 0.00051586 = 12.9491 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051835 = 1.2155 BTC [+]
Nov 27 00:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10392 @ 0.00051855 = 5.3888 BTC [+]
Nov 27 00:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3063 @ 0.00052181 = 1.5983 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 00:49:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051591 = 1.2098 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4598 @ 0.00051586 = 2.3719 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3683 @ 0.00051404 = 1.8932 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:49:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7474 @ 0.00051394 = 3.8412 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.42938889 = 429.3889 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:53:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.34744445 = 347.4445 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6026 @ 0.00051394 = 3.097 BTC [-]
Nov 27 00:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1774 @ 0.00051386 = 0.9116 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 01:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00339856 = 0.6797 BTC [-]
Nov 27 01:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00334557 = 4.6838 BTC [-]
Nov 27 01:14:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.intrade.com/news/id/782 soooo intrade is shuttering.
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Nov 27 01:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051832 = 1.2155 BTC [+]
Nov 27 01:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00051851 = 3.2148 BTC [+]
Nov 27 01:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 374 @ 0.00052054 = 0.1947 BTC [+]
Nov 27 01:20:19 *	unknown45682|2 (~unknown45@pool-98-109-226-74.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Nov 27 01:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3976 @ 0.00052054 = 2.0697 BTC [+]
Nov 27 01:20:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4249 @ 0.00052181 = 2.2172 BTC [+]
Nov 27 01:22:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15629 @ 0.0005199 = 8.1255 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 01:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11521 @ 0.00051386 = 5.9202 BTC [-]
Nov 27 01:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051408 = 1.2055 BTC [+]
Nov 27 01:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9454 @ 0.00051386 = 4.858 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 01:28:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5251 @ 0.00051386 = 2.6983 BTC [-]
Nov 27 01:28:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3949 @ 0.00051379 = 2.029 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 01:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005215 = 1.2229 BTC [+]
Nov 27 01:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3059 @ 0.00052181 = 1.5962 BTC [+]
Nov 27 01:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1174 @ 0.00052181 = 0.6126 BTC [+]
Nov 27 01:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00052203 = 8.7701 BTC [+]
Nov 27 01:55:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10726 @ 0.00052351 = 5.6152 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 01:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00052351 = 7.0936 BTC [+]
Nov 27 02:00:45 *	Jackmaninov (~Jackmanin@chello084114156162.12.15.vie.surfer.at) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Nov 27 02:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00052126 = 6.2291 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 02:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1005 @ 0.00334557 = 3.3623 BTC [-]
Nov 27 02:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051983 = 1.219 BTC [-]
Nov 27 02:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10055 @ 0.00051948 = 5.2234 BTC [-]
Nov 27 02:30:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1745 @ 0.00051948 = 0.9065 BTC [-]
Nov 27 02:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21055 @ 0.00051379 = 10.8178 BTC [-]
Nov 27 02:34:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052114 = 1.2221 BTC [+]
Nov 27 02:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4605 @ 0.00052126 = 2.4004 BTC [+]
Nov 27 02:36:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5272 @ 0.00052126 = 2.7481 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 02:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00334522 = 4.516 BTC [-]
Nov 27 02:39:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051387 = 1.205 BTC [-]
Nov 27 02:39:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8246 @ 0.00051379 = 4.2367 BTC [-]
Nov 27 02:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8159 @ 0.00051355 = 4.1901 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 02:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00051972 = 7.0942 BTC [+]
Nov 27 02:58:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00051429 = 1.3114 BTC [-]
Nov 27 03:06:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00051921 = 2.7778 BTC [+]
Nov 27 03:16:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052031 = 1.2201 BTC [+]
Nov 27 03:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17155 @ 0.00052045 = 8.9283 BTC [+]
Nov 27 03:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3188 @ 0.00052045 = 1.6592 BTC [+]
Nov 27 03:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051946 = 1.2181 BTC [-]
Nov 27 03:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6855 @ 0.00051921 = 3.5592 BTC [-]
Nov 27 03:32:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12245 @ 0.00051921 = 6.3577 BTC [-]
Nov 27 03:32:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8536 @ 0.00051355 = 4.3837 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 03:37:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052014 = 1.2197 BTC [+]
Nov 27 03:37:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1057 @ 0.00052045 = 0.5501 BTC [+]
Nov 27 03:37:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3898 @ 0.00052126 = 2.0319 BTC [+]
Nov 27 03:38:15 *	UncleScrooge (~UncleScro@199.26.85.34) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Nov 27 03:39:14 <Diablo-D3>	;;bc,rewardhalf
Nov 27 03:39:14 <gribble>	Error: "bc,rewardhalf" is not a valid command.
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Nov 27 03:39:44 <Diablo-D3>	;;halfreward
Nov 27 03:39:45 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 19:39:45 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 11 hours, and 0 seconds.
Nov 27 03:42:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051388 = 1.205 BTC [-]
Nov 27 03:42:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10188 @ 0.00051355 = 5.232 BTC [-]
Nov 27 03:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
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Nov 27 03:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00051355 = 2.8502 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 03:48:39 <EskimoBob>	dun? what is that?
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Nov 27 03:55:42 <dub>	http://dundundun.net/
Nov 27 03:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	nowai
Nov 27 04:00:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4887 @ 0.00051355 = 2.5097 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10998 @ 0.00051313 = 5.6434 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13702 @ 0.00051313 = 7.0309 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 360 @ 0.00051312 = 0.1847 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 04:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00051312 = 2.5656 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:23:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1445 @ 0.00334522 = 4.8338 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:23:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 355 @ 0.00335332 = 1.1904 BTC [+]
Nov 27 04:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19490 @ 0.00051312 = 10.0007 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:28:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7610 @ 0.00051284 = 3.9027 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:33:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005167 = 1.2117 BTC [+]
Nov 27 04:33:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18655 @ 0.00051704 = 9.6454 BTC [+]
Nov 27 04:37:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00051313 = 0.821 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:37:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8478 @ 0.00051284 = 4.3479 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7222 @ 0.00051275 = 3.7031 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051281 = 1.2025 BTC [+]
Nov 27 04:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13578 @ 0.00051275 = 6.9621 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:52:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1227 @ 0.00051244 = 0.6288 BTC [-]
Nov 27 04:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051489 = 1.2074 BTC [+]
Nov 27 04:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7505 @ 0.00051507 = 3.8656 BTC [+]
Nov 27 05:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051251 = 1.2018 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4355 @ 0.00051244 = 2.2317 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00051244 = 0.8968 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:10:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051477 = 1.2071 BTC [+]
Nov 27 05:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8355 @ 0.00051507 = 4.3034 BTC [+]
Nov 27 05:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051258 = 1.202 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27754 @ 0.00051244 = 14.2223 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11801 @ 0.0005124 = 6.0468 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28899 @ 0.0005124 = 14.8078 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5151 @ 0.00051226 = 2.6387 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8512 @ 0.00051226 = 4.3604 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3537 @ 0.00051226 = 1.8119 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:18:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1863 @ 0.00051225 = 0.9543 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:26:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00051491 = 0.9526 BTC [+]
Nov 27 05:34:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 495 @ 0.00051491 = 0.2549 BTC [+]
Nov 27 05:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11273 @ 0.00051507 = 5.8064 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 05:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005126 = 1.202 BTC [-]
Nov 27 05:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16055 @ 0.00051225 = 8.2242 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 05:45:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051481 = 1.2072 BTC [+]
Nov 27 05:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6358 @ 0.00051507 = 3.2748 BTC [+]
Nov 27 05:45:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8795 @ 0.00051704 = 4.5474 BTC [+]
Nov 27 05:45:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10202 @ 0.00051733 = 5.2778 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 06:09:10 <Chaang-Noi>	zup all
Nov 27 06:09:18 <Chaang-Noi>	;;btchalf
Nov 27 06:09:19 <gribble>	Error: "btchalf" is not a valid command.
Nov 27 06:09:24 <Chaang-Noi>	;;half
Nov 27 06:09:24 <gribble>	Error: "half" is not a valid command.
Nov 27 06:09:30 <Chaang-Noi>	damn it i fail at commands
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Nov 27 06:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00051355 = 6.4707 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12048 @ 0.00051733 = 6.2328 BTC [+]
Nov 27 06:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28452 @ 0.00051736 = 14.7199 BTC [+]
Nov 27 06:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17490 @ 0.00051736 = 9.0486 BTC [+]
Nov 27 06:16:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1310 @ 0.00051823 = 0.6789 BTC [+]
Nov 27 06:17:13 <Chaang-Noi>	!halfreward
Nov 27 06:17:27 <Chaang-Noi>	;;halfreward
Nov 27 06:17:28 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 18:37:28 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 7 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 27 06:19:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051282 = 1.2026 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:19:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00051259 = 5.4847 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3184 @ 0.00051225 = 1.631 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:19:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3247 @ 0.00051208 = 1.6627 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051793 = 1.2145 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 06:24:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35857 @ 0.00051823 = 18.5822 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 06:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00334119 = 1.0024 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:28:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 183 @ 0.00051823 = 0.0948 BTC [+]
Nov 27 06:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9776 @ 0.00051846 = 5.0685 BTC [+]
Nov 27 06:28:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13341 @ 0.00051854 = 6.9178 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 06:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051801 = 1.2147 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:32:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1555 @ 0.00051795 = 0.8054 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 06:41:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00051795 = 7.2254 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20664 @ 0.0005175 = 10.6936 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:47:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5486 @ 0.0005175 = 2.839 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2264 @ 0.00051208 = 1.1593 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:50:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24589 @ 0.00051208 = 12.5915 BTC [-]
Nov 27 06:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5911 @ 0.00051203 = 3.0266 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 07:12:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00051203 = 1.4081 BTC [-]
Nov 27 07:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00051774 = 0.5954 BTC [+]
Nov 27 07:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051846 = 1.2158 BTC [+]
Nov 27 07:13:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4624 @ 0.00051854 = 2.3977 BTC [+]
Nov 27 07:16:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2032 @ 0.00051854 = 1.0537 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 07:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8010 @ 0.00052043 = 4.1686 BTC [+]
Nov 27 07:30:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00052078 = 0.5208 BTC [+]
Nov 27 07:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6106 @ 0.00052079 = 3.1799 BTC [+]
Nov 27 07:31:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7294 @ 0.00052079 = 3.7986 BTC [+]
Nov 27 07:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8168 @ 0.00052091 = 4.2548 BTC [+]
Nov 27 07:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051977 = 1.2189 BTC [-]
Nov 27 07:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7274 @ 0.00051954 = 3.7791 BTC [-]
Nov 27 07:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1194 @ 0.00051954 = 0.6203 BTC [-]
Nov 27 07:48:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8706 @ 0.00051789 = 4.5088 BTC [-]
Nov 27 07:48:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052086 = 1.2214 BTC [+]
Nov 27 07:48:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0005209 = 0.5209 BTC [+]
Nov 27 07:48:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4936 @ 0.00052091 = 2.5712 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 08:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18446 @ 0.00052091 = 9.6087 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 08:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15054 @ 0.00052126 = 7.847 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 08:14:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5121 @ 0.00052126 = 2.6694 BTC [+]
Nov 27 08:14:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00052146 = 7.4569 BTC [+]
Nov 27 08:14:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00052229 = 8.8006 BTC [+]
Nov 27 08:14:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6573 @ 0.00052253 = 3.4346 BTC [+]
Nov 27 08:14:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2956 @ 0.00052336 = 1.5471 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 08:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005204 = 1.2203 BTC [-]
Nov 27 08:28:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00052036 = 7.233 BTC [-]
Nov 27 08:28:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9622 @ 0.0005171 = 4.9755 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 08:34:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052308 = 1.2266 BTC [+]
Nov 27 08:34:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10755 @ 0.00052336 = 5.6287 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 08:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052321 = 1.2269 BTC [-]
Nov 27 08:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5505 @ 0.00052336 = 2.8811 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 08:56:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051756 = 1.2137 BTC [-]
Nov 27 08:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22255 @ 0.00051738 = 11.5143 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 09:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052309 = 1.2266 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:02:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7819 @ 0.00052336 = 4.0922 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:02:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7011 @ 0.00052351 = 3.6703 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:02:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 925 @ 0.00052382 = 0.4845 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 09:07:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00052382 = 5.4739 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051749 = 1.2135 BTC [-]
Nov 27 09:10:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3845 @ 0.00051738 = 1.9893 BTC [-]
Nov 27 09:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11310 @ 0.0005171 = 5.8484 BTC [-]
Nov 27 09:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052355 = 1.2277 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 825 @ 0.00052382 = 0.4322 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:15:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4808 @ 0.00052414 = 2.5201 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00052417 = 0.5242 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18272 @ 0.00052418 = 9.5778 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 09:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00334119 = 2.673 BTC [-]
Nov 27 09:40:12 <Chaang-Noi>	;;halfreward
Nov 27 09:40:13 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 18:40:13 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 4 hours, and 0 seconds.
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Nov 27 09:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051711 = 1.2126 BTC [-]
Nov 27 09:43:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6373 @ 0.0005171 = 3.2955 BTC [-]
Nov 27 09:43:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7135 @ 0.00051576 = 3.6799 BTC [-]
Nov 27 09:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5347 @ 0.0005122 = 2.7387 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 09:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052392 = 1.2286 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:50:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2931 @ 0.00052418 = 1.5364 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15724 @ 0.00052421 = 8.2427 BTC [+]
Nov 27 09:54:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2269 @ 0.00052421 = 1.1894 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 10:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	hello Kumala
Nov 27 10:00:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 27 10:00:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.95000, Best ask: 11.99998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 11.99999, 24 hour volume: 43477.60197387, 24 hour low: 11.89000, 24 hour high: 12.55800, 24 hour vwap: 12.17801
Nov 27 10:02:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 245 @ 0.00335332 = 0.8216 BTC [+]
Nov 27 10:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052284 = 1.2261 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12737 @ 0.00052253 = 6.6555 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:14:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052407 = 1.2289 BTC [+]
Nov 27 10:14:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1799 @ 0.00052421 = 0.9431 BTC [+]
Nov 27 10:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052266 = 1.2256 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:17:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3144 @ 0.00052253 = 1.6428 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8761 @ 0.00051642 = 4.5244 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051669 = 1.2116 BTC [+]
Nov 27 10:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8464 @ 0.00051642 = 4.371 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:21:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00051607 = 5.8316 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:21:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 391 @ 0.00051602 = 0.2018 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 10:28:11 <mircea_popescu>	Lobbyist Michael Kiok, who lives with his dog Cassie, told the newspaper there were more than 100,000 zoophiles in Germany.
Nov 27 10:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	lmao this is hysterical
Nov 27 10:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/germany-to-ban-sex-with-animals-report
Nov 27 10:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16334 @ 0.00051602 = 8.4287 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:30:16 <mod6>	page 404
Nov 27 10:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	wtf i just read it
Nov 27 10:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8161 @ 0.00051602 = 4.2112 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:32:02 <mod6>	yeah, weird. just says: We could not find the page you requested. This is either because: bla bla bla
Nov 27 10:32:32 <mod6>	the telegraph site comes up, but the article itself seems to be missing from their database or someweird shit
Nov 27 10:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	well it wasn't any big deal, just a write-up about some campaign trying to make animal fucking illegal again
Nov 27 10:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/11/26/cme-declares-force-majeure-at-manhattan-gold-depository/
Nov 27 10:34:44 <mircea_popescu>	now this is juicy.
Nov 27 10:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4253 @ 0.0005122 = 2.1784 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17089 @ 0.00051203 = 8.7501 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:35:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00051191 = 4.9143 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8908 @ 0.0005119 = 4.56 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:35:20 <EskimoBob>	did the gold just float away?
Nov 27 10:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 27 10:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	no, it was opperationally limitated.
Nov 27 10:36:50 <EskimoBob>	nothing juicy at all  "CME said that individuals holding MTB warrants, or certificates for a specific lot of metal stored in the depository, may receive gold delivered from Brinks Co. (BCO) in New York. MTB is responsible for any additional costs incurred by customers receiving metal from Brinks, CME said"
Nov 27 10:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	i guess you don't know what "may" means.
Nov 27 10:38:59 <Ukto>	actually
Nov 27 10:39:03 <Ukto>	thats contextual
Nov 27 10:39:10 <Ukto>	in this case, they are using it as "can"
Nov 27 10:39:24 <Ukto>	wel
Nov 27 10:39:27 <Ukto>	either way
Nov 27 10:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they are, yes.
Nov 27 10:39:31 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: read what Ukto writes ...
Nov 27 10:39:57 <Ukto>	they are saying that they will fullfill contracts.. be it from them, or it may come from brinks
Nov 27 10:40:01 <Ukto>	not that the contracts may be honored
Nov 27 10:40:19 <Ukto>	the way I read it at least
Nov 27 10:40:35 <Ukto>	it is vauge wording though
Nov 27 10:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	you don't really call fm if you intend to enforce the contract at no cost to the op.
Nov 27 10:42:51 <mod6>	its the ole "sorry, can't deliver your gold on contract because of act of god..." excuse ;P
Nov 27 10:43:10 <Ukto>	mod6: lol
Nov 27 10:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	"sorry, can't deliver your gold on contract for gold we never actually had because of act of god...
Nov 27 10:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	fify.
Nov 27 10:43:57 <mod6>	haha ty
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Nov 27 10:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6492 @ 0.0005119 = 3.3233 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00051181 = 8.2401 BTC [-]
Nov 27 10:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5556 @ 0.00051166 = 2.8428 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 10:56:26 <smickles>	copumpkin: my question is, how come everyone in these sorts of questions haven't been paying taxes for years
Nov 27 10:56:42 <copumpkin>	fucking leeches!
Nov 27 10:56:51 <smickles>	s/haven't/hasn't/
Nov 27 10:56:52 <copumpkin>	those welfare queens buying italian pizza ovens
Nov 27 10:56:59 <smickles>	lol
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Nov 27 11:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00051248 = 8.7122 BTC [+]
Nov 27 11:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/#comment-90702 <<< extended by 2 weeks!
Nov 27 11:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what sorts of questions ?
Nov 27 11:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10089 @ 0.00051308 = 5.1765 BTC [+]
Nov 27 11:10:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12335 @ 0.00052421 = 6.4661 BTC [+]
Nov 27 11:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3576 @ 0.00052436 = 1.8751 BTC [+]
Nov 27 11:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052433 = 1.2296 BTC [-]
Nov 27 11:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7955 @ 0.00052436 = 4.1713 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 11:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051256 = 1.202 BTC [-]
Nov 27 11:17:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00051248 = 3.5105 BTC [-]
Nov 27 11:17:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13894 @ 0.00051166 = 7.109 BTC [-]
Nov 27 11:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.00051165 = 1.7964 BTC [-]
Nov 27 11:17:34 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: I linked to http://snapplr.com/gg28 last night
Nov 27 11:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	doing things behind my back eh ?
Nov 27 11:19:34 <mircea_popescu>	hm, i must be dense. why is the taxpayer liable for more tax if the tax was cut 0.0
Nov 27 11:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00051165 = 2.8141 BTC [-]
Nov 27 11:20:17 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu fuzzy maffs
Nov 27 11:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol i c
Nov 27 11:23:15 <EskimoBob>	what is that? "voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/#comment-90702 <<< extended by 2 weeks!"
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Nov 27 11:24:23 <mircea_popescu>	there's a writing contest with something over 100btc in prize funds.
Nov 27 11:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	it was originally due to end yest.
Nov 27 11:25:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 881 @ 0.00051165 = 0.4508 BTC [-]
Nov 27 11:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5105 @ 0.00051146 = 2.611 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 11:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052408 = 1.229 BTC [+]
Nov 27 11:33:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26205 @ 0.00052436 = 13.7409 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 11:50:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5489 @ 0.00051472 = 2.8253 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 11:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00051472 = 6.9487 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 12:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051471 = 1.207 BTC [-]
Nov 27 12:06:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 216 @ 0.00051472 = 0.1112 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 524 @ 0.00052436 = 0.2748 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:06:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00052457 = 1.7311 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10515 @ 0.00052461 = 5.5163 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19890 @ 0.00051862 = 10.3154 BTC [-]
Nov 27 12:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10360 @ 0.0005252 = 5.4411 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5840 @ 0.0005252 = 3.0672 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13962 @ 0.0005253 = 7.3342 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:17:41 <smickles>	16:24 < mircea_popescu> it was originally due to end yest. <<< sweet, an extension? The thing I'm writing got put off because I had to do other things, maybe now I can finish it :)
Nov 27 12:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Nov 27 12:20:52 <jurov>	i tried to subcontract the story, only one writer understood it, and finished it late and it still deals heavily with law enforcement
Nov 27 12:21:14 <jurov>	hope he'll improve it in the 2 weeks.
Nov 27 12:21:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00051962 = 4.157 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 12:23:09 <jurov>	should have tried to write something myself instead... maybe I'd surprise myself like dong that cherry truck
Nov 27 12:24:35 <jurov>	*the story deals with law enforcement, not the writer. lmao
Nov 27 12:31:00 <smickles>	"…as a point of fact if you couldn’t defend yourself in any criminal proceeding whatsoever right now, you’re already in prison." oooh, zing
Nov 27 12:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol subcontracted story. how much you pay him ?
Nov 27 12:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE hey, i like the curve
Nov 27 12:32:29 <mircea_popescu>	looks like a hip.
Nov 27 12:34:05 <mircea_popescu>	smickles :D
Nov 27 12:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00052049 = 6.7143 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:37:12 <jurov>	i paid $42
Nov 27 12:37:17 <jurov>	for the story
Nov 27 12:39:13 <smickles>	jurov: before or after they didn't deliver on time?
Nov 27 12:40:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052049 = 2.3422 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:40:03 <jurov>	after... i already have a dispute with a scammer on that project, so i said, fuck that i dont need another one
Nov 27 12:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00051962 = 2.9878 BTC [-]
Nov 27 12:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00051397 = 6.3989 BTC [-]
Nov 27 12:40:17 <smickles>	oh my
Nov 27 12:40:58 <jurov>	and in the middle suddenly vworker got sold to freelance, several days it was nearly unusable
Nov 27 12:41:10 <jurov>	so i can say there was executive meddling, too :D
Nov 27 12:45:13 <jurov>	still i don't get why freelancer.com is #1 . simple task like moving a deadline requires emailing to support both for employer and worker, wtf?
Nov 27 12:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051432 = 1.2061 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20310 @ 0.00051397 = 10.4387 BTC [-]
Nov 27 12:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051418 = 1.2058 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:52:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32697 @ 0.00051397 = 16.8053 BTC [-]
Nov 27 12:52:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 558 @ 0.00051294 = 0.2862 BTC [-]
Nov 27 12:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6555 @ 0.00337618 = 22.1309 BTC [+]
Nov 27 12:53:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 495 @ 0.00334119 = 1.6539 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 12:56:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4211 @ 0.00051294 = 2.16 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 13:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00051837 = 9.4343 BTC [+]
Nov 27 13:04:10 <Namjies>	Ah, OTC has nothing to say about it.
Nov 27 13:04:24 <Namjies>	http://www.namworld.com/x-buttons.html
Nov 27 13:04:40 <Namjies>	How does that look?
Nov 27 13:05:50 <jcpham>	i like the blue buttons
Nov 27 13:05:56 <jcpham>	happy?
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Nov 27 13:06:47 <Namjies>	Eh, just wanted to know if they looked fine. Bootstrap inspired of course.
Nov 27 13:07:08 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: I shipped your stuff
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Nov 27 13:07:18 <Namjies>	But I made them less tall and more pronounced.
Nov 27 13:07:20 <EskimoBob>	lets hope this takes less than 30 days :)
Nov 27 13:07:26 <jcpham>	pigeons ordered drugs from you EskimoBob?
Nov 27 13:07:32 <EskimoBob>	snow
Nov 27 13:07:42 <EskimoBob>	lots of melting snow and polar bear shit
Nov 27 13:07:47 <jcpham>	neat
Nov 27 13:07:53 <EskimoBob>	with moss and stuff
Nov 27 13:07:57 <jcpham>	he usually just buys drugs from me
Nov 27 13:08:13 <EskimoBob>	OK, i guess he has made some changes to his menu
Nov 27 13:08:26 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: what are you selling?
Nov 27 13:08:47 <jcpham>	cocaine-infused air molecules
Nov 27 13:08:54 <jcpham>	pretty high-grade shit
Nov 27 13:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	jurov so 42 for a chance at 5 btc prize ?
Nov 27 13:09:33 <EskimoBob>	yummy jcpham
Nov 27 13:09:50 <jurov>	yes. i hoped for 1st prize, too
Nov 27 13:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies pretty good
Nov 27 13:13:00 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128019.0
Nov 27 13:13:07 <Diablo-D3>	LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
Nov 27 13:13:38 *	Diablo-D3 runs out of the room, down the street, and across the united states, gets on a point to china, keeps running through asia and europe, gets on another boat, comes back to the US and runs back into his house
Nov 27 13:13:43 <Diablo-D3>	..............oooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL
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Nov 27 13:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051815 = 1.2151 BTC [-]
Nov 27 13:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2105 @ 0.00051822 = 1.0909 BTC [+]
Nov 27 13:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	so basically bfl just went bankrupt.
Nov 27 13:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051675 = 1.2118 BTC [-]
Nov 27 13:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1555 @ 0.0005167 = 0.8035 BTC [-]
Nov 27 13:16:36 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: EXTRA bankrupt
Nov 27 13:16:47 <Diablo-D3>	this is the sound of several thousand investors shitting their pants in unison
Nov 27 13:16:56 <Diablo-D3>	its sort of wet and cheaky.
Nov 27 13:16:58 <jcpham>	investors?
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Nov 27 13:17:13 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: they're not preorder customers.
Nov 27 13:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham they had a backer.
Nov 27 13:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	and obviously, all the people sending them free money.
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Nov 27 13:17:26 <Diablo-D3>	bfl needs to stop referring to them in such an improper way
Nov 27 13:17:38 <jcpham>	maybe i didn't read the whole thread?
Nov 27 13:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny that not even a week ago inaba was intimating bfl is worth more than mpex
Nov 27 13:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	turns out it was worth more in the sense glbse was worth more :
Nov 27 13:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	worth more jailtime.
Nov 27 13:18:48 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: it's deferred tax
Nov 27 13:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	a ok then.
Nov 27 13:19:36 <copumpkin>	you don't pay more tax than you would otherwise, but due to the discrepancy between your accounts and the tax reports, you need to adjust your accounts to factor in the increased rate
Nov 27 13:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22495 @ 0.0005167 = 11.6232 BTC [-]
Nov 27 13:19:46 <copumpkin>	but the tax rate did go up, so you would pay more tax
Nov 27 13:19:52 <copumpkin>	it's just a huge pain in the ass to account for it
Nov 27 13:20:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6205 @ 0.00051605 = 3.2021 BTC [-]
Nov 27 13:20:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005182 = 1.2152 BTC [+]
Nov 27 13:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00051822 = 7.9029 BTC [+]
Nov 27 13:20:44 <Diablo-D3>	;;rewardhalf
Nov 27 13:20:45 <gribble>	Error: "rewardhalf" is not a valid command.
Nov 27 13:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin didn't the tax rate go down ? 41 to 31 ?
Nov 27 13:20:50 <Diablo-D3>	;;halfreward
Nov 27 13:20:51 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 18:50:51 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 0 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 27 13:20:53 <copumpkin>	oh, maybe it did
Nov 27 13:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;half
Nov 27 13:20:55 <gribble>	Error: "half" is not a valid command.
Nov 27 13:20:59 <copumpkin>	I haven't looked at the question since earlier
Nov 27 13:21:03 <Diablo-D3>	I have 24 hours to produce a block :<
Nov 27 13:21:04 <mircea_popescu>	lolk. well...
Nov 27 13:21:08 <jcpham>	can we have an irc party
Nov 27 13:21:12 <jcpham>	when it halves
Nov 27 13:21:12 <copumpkin>	oh yeah, it did go down
Nov 27 13:21:19 <copumpkin>	anyway, whatever it is, you need to account for it :)
Nov 27 13:21:23 <copumpkin>	it's stupid
Nov 27 13:22:22 <jurov>	Diablo-D3 maybe we can organize prayer marathon for you
Nov 27 13:22:31 <jcpham>	copumpkin we're having a;;halfreward party at cathy's house: http://youtu.be/NUnwFHplBg4
Nov 27 13:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin well, only need to account for it if you hadn't filed the taxes for the prev years, but anyway! my q was strictly cause it went down
Nov 27 13:23:29 <copumpkin>	no, it isn't about not filing them
Nov 27 13:23:33 <copumpkin>	it's about actual discrepancies in procedures
Nov 27 13:23:35 <copumpkin>	it's really annoying
Nov 27 13:23:53 <copumpkin>	so you often need to depreciate things differently on your taxes and on your accounts
Nov 27 13:24:00 <copumpkin>	or account for warranty expenses differently
Nov 27 13:24:34 <copumpkin>	like if you have an asset, accounting standards have different ways you can depreciate it over time, but the taxes probably want a particular way called double-declining balance
Nov 27 13:24:48 <copumpkin>	which means that it looks like you lost more money to depreciation on your taxes than you did on your accounts
Nov 27 13:25:15 <copumpkin>	which means you paid less in taxes (Because they think you lost money to depreciation) today but your accounts don't show that depreciation because you used a different method on them
Nov 27 13:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	i don't like using any diff method than the tax method.
Nov 27 13:25:35 <mircea_popescu>	consequently i don't.
Nov 27 13:25:40 <copumpkin>	so you file a deferred tax liability saying "um, the tax man thinks we lost way more money than we did this year and charged us less taxes, but we haven't lost it yet"
Nov 27 13:25:55 <copumpkin>	that's the thing though, the IFRS has requirements for the depreciation method
Nov 27 13:25:58 <copumpkin>	and US GAAP has other ones
Nov 27 13:26:10 <copumpkin>	and they don't all mesh with the tax method
Nov 27 13:26:15 <copumpkin>	sometimes they might ,depending on what kind of asset it is
Nov 27 13:26:31 <copumpkin>	also, warranty expenses are fucked as well for different reasons
Nov 27 13:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	but as long as you do everything the tax way you don't have a problem.
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Nov 27 13:27:58 <copumpkin>	no, you do, because then you aren't meeting the US GAAP/IFRS standards
Nov 27 13:28:05 <copumpkin>	which means that auditors or the SEC might bitch
Nov 27 13:28:06 <thestringpuller>	;;halfreward
Nov 27 13:28:06 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 18:48:06 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 0 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 27 13:28:14 <copumpkin>	if you're public or something
Nov 27 13:28:33 <copumpkin>	maybe it works better in romania
Nov 27 13:29:23 <copumpkin>	maybe smickles can provide a justification for the whole thing, but the best I can come up with is that a company's accounts serve a different purpose than its tax returns
Nov 27 13:29:54 <copumpkin>	mostly it just feels stupid though :P
Nov 27 13:30:05 <copumpkin>	but regardless, I need to know it, so I learn it
Nov 27 13:30:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051395 = 1.2052 BTC [-]
Nov 27 13:30:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30050 @ 0.00051392 = 15.4433 BTC [-]
Nov 27 13:30:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2405 @ 0.00051294 = 1.2336 BTC [-]
Nov 27 13:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin they may bitch, but you can't really get into trouble by sticking with the tax version.
Nov 27 13:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	people in general don't do it because they'd like to present better numbers.
Nov 27 13:31:02 *	copumpkin hangs head sullenly
Nov 27 13:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	at least that's my (limited) understanding
Nov 27 13:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	ianaa
Nov 27 13:31:41 <copumpkin>	well, the discrepances can both favor you or work against you
Nov 27 13:31:51 <copumpkin>	that's why you can have deferred tax liabilities or assets
Nov 27 13:32:22 <copumpkin>	Like many other common law countries, the United States government does not directly set accounting standards by statute. However, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) requires that US GAAP be followed in financial reporting by publicly traded companies
Nov 27 13:32:41 <copumpkin>	so if you're public, you can't just do what the taxes do
Nov 27 13:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	a well, then that's the issue.
Nov 27 13:33:02 <copumpkin>	oh well
Nov 27 13:33:05 <copumpkin>	at least I'm not an accountant
Nov 27 13:33:09 *	copumpkin glares at smickles 
Nov 27 13:34:05 <mircea_popescu>	in truth, this deferred assets/liabilities game + the SPV game is pretty much 90% of why nobody knows what corps are reallty worth
Nov 27 13:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	takes people like buffett a month of combing to get a rough idea.
Nov 27 13:34:45 <copumpkin>	that's just cause he's an old fart and is dumb
Nov 27 13:34:45 <copumpkin>	duh
Nov 27 13:34:45 <thestringpuller>	that's too generalized
Nov 27 13:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051816 = 1.2151 BTC [+]
Nov 27 13:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1095 @ 0.00051822 = 0.5675 BTC [+]
Nov 27 13:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5660 @ 0.00052068 = 2.947 BTC [+]
Nov 27 13:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	"people like wb" = value investors.
Nov 27 13:35:50 <copumpkin>	:P
Nov 27 13:36:13 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: just follow the fibonacci numbers on the price graph and you'll make way more money anyway
Nov 27 13:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Nov 27 13:36:23 <copumpkin>	let the elliott wave guide you!!
Nov 27 13:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	i actually am one of the value types.
Nov 27 13:36:38 <mircea_popescu>	never put much stock in ta
Nov 27 13:36:42 <copumpkin>	yeah, I'm just mocking TA :)
Nov 27 13:37:19 <thestringpuller>	S.DICE is over valued
Nov 27 13:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	so is most everyone's mom.
Nov 27 13:37:46 <thestringpuller>	my mom rules
Nov 27 13:37:53 <thestringpuller>	she can beat up your mom
Nov 27 13:38:07 <copumpkin>	lol
Nov 27 13:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	how much for the pair ?
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Nov 27 13:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00051452 = 4.4506 BTC [-]
Nov 27 13:45:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00051298 = 0.1795 BTC [-]
Nov 27 13:46:27 <smickles>	18:29 < copumpkin> maybe smickles can provide a justification for the whole thing, but the best I can come up with is  that a company's accounts serve a different purpose than its tax returns <<< this is true, taxes are not handled the same way as responsible accounting
Nov 27 13:48:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052055 = 1.2207 BTC [+]
Nov 27 13:48:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8155 @ 0.00052068 = 4.2461 BTC [+]
Nov 27 13:49:01 <smickles>	18:30 < mircea_popescu> copumpkin they may bitch, but you can't really get into trouble by sticking with the tax  version<<< the thing is, sticking to the tax version doesn't accurately represent the status of the company
Nov 27 13:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	well... a representation is a representation smickles.
Nov 27 13:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	all representations depend on presupositions to decode.
Nov 27 13:51:26 <smickles>	heh, trying to move this to an ontological discussion?
Nov 27 13:51:42 <copumpkin>	I prefer oncological discussion
Nov 27 13:51:47 <copumpkin>	or odontological
Nov 27 13:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	odometerological
Nov 27 13:52:55 <copumpkin>	that too
Nov 27 13:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	i really don't follow how anyone'd be foolish enough to sign two different accounting reports.
Nov 27 13:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	you sign the tax one as being correct
Nov 27 13:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	you then proceed to sign a different one, someone shows they contradict themselves and whoopla, you've perjured yourself.
Nov 27 13:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	as long as you're required to sign off on the tax one, it's the one. anyone doesn't like it can stand on his head.
Nov 27 13:54:06 <smickles>	but you sign the tax one saying that its correct in consideration of the way tax law says it has to be done
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Nov 27 13:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think you get signing statements
Nov 27 13:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	you're not the president.
Nov 27 13:54:36 <smickles>	you sign the real one saying it's correct to to the standards
Nov 27 13:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	"correct to the best of your knowledge" is the usual formula.
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Nov 27 13:55:22 <smickles>	and, iirc, the 'tax one' is not usually a report, it's the filed tax forms
Nov 27 13:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway. i guess such issues are why i;m neither an accountant nor would contemplate becoming one
Nov 27 13:56:19 <smickles>	and why I see money in understanding them
Nov 27 13:56:28 <smickles>	;D
Nov 27 13:56:45 <copumpkin>	my 6 btc offer still stands
Nov 27 13:56:53 <copumpkin>	:P
Nov 27 13:57:06 <mircea_popescu>	6 btc for what ?
Nov 27 13:57:23 <smickles>	copumpkin: in order to consider that offer seriously, i'd have to know how far down i'd have to bring it
Nov 27 13:57:37 <copumpkin>	15%!
Nov 27 13:57:38 <copumpkin>	:P
Nov 27 13:58:02 <smickles>	it might also be possible for next year's taxes, but not this years, as it could involve operating an off-shore company for the full year
Nov 27 13:58:13 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: I'm offering him 6 btc to take my effective tax rate to 15%
Nov 27 13:58:21 <copumpkin>	any more than that and it isn't worth it ;)
Nov 27 13:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	iirc i paid 2.x% in 2011.
Nov 27 13:58:52 <copumpkin>	that's not a bad rate
Nov 27 13:58:55 <copumpkin>	I'll take it
Nov 27 13:59:02 <mircea_popescu>	cost me a little more than 6 btc.
Nov 27 13:59:04 <copumpkin>	smickles: 7 btc to get me to 2%
Nov 27 13:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	i think it was something like 30.
Nov 27 14:00:30 <copumpkin>	damn!
Nov 27 14:00:32 <copumpkin>	I can't afford that
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Nov 27 14:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	scam moar.
Nov 27 14:01:24 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: I have an offer for you. You lend me 100k btc, I pay you back 200k next week
Nov 27 14:01:24 <copumpkin>	deal?
Nov 27 14:01:36 <copumpkin>	perhaps I should've waited a little longer
Nov 27 14:01:43 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: disregard that, I'll ask again in a bit
Nov 27 14:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	i only take 7% a week.
Nov 27 14:03:48 <copumpkin>	oh even cheaper for me
Nov 27 14:03:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.00051816 = 13.7312 BTC [-]
Nov 27 14:03:53 <copumpkin>	okay, I pay you back 107k
Nov 27 14:03:59 <copumpkin>	I mean, I'll ask that in a bit
Nov 27 14:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1104 @ 0.00051816 = 0.572 BTC [-]
Nov 27 14:08:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17996 @ 0.00051972 = 9.3529 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:09:39 <smickles>	copumpkin: are we talking, lowering it 18000 or lowering it more than that?
Nov 27 14:09:56 <copumpkin>	hmm, haven't actually calculated
Nov 27 14:10:27 <copumpkin>	well, you can calculate based on my 7 btc limit!
Nov 27 14:10:29 <copumpkin>	>_>
Nov 27 14:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00051972 = 4.9633 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:11:14 <copumpkin>	smickles: it's sort of joking around though, because I doubt it's possible to lower much, since I don't work for myself or have a company and can't really deduct most of my expenses
Nov 27 14:11:25 <copumpkin>	which is where I think most of that sort of goodness comes from
Nov 27 14:11:34 <smickles>	if my assumptions are correct, as well as you not taking advantage of various things, it might actually be possible
Nov 27 14:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00051972 = 2.1309 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 14:11:48 <smickles>	like, how much do you contribute to your retirement fund?
Nov 27 14:12:02 <copumpkin>	I have a pretty boring finanicial situation :)
Nov 27 14:12:25 <smickles>	well, if you don't have an IRA, we can knock of 5000 right there
Nov 27 14:12:34 <copumpkin>	yeah, I'm doing a backdoor roth IRA
Nov 27 14:12:41 *	copumpkin always takes the backdoor, if you know what I mean
Nov 27 14:12:43 *	copumpkin winks
Nov 27 14:12:47 <smickles>	heh
Nov 27 14:13:01 <smickles>	well, do you pay for childcare?
Nov 27 14:13:31 <copumpkin>	nah, I'm unmarried, don't own a house, don't have children
Nov 27 14:13:36 <smickles>	plastered your home in solar pannels yet?
Nov 27 14:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1995 @ 0.00051298 = 1.0234 BTC [-]
Nov 27 14:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12126 @ 0.00051294 = 6.2199 BTC [-]
Nov 27 14:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24703 @ 0.00051221 = 12.6531 BTC [-]
Nov 27 14:14:08 <smickles>	ok,
Nov 27 14:14:11 <smickles>	i've got it
Nov 27 14:14:32 <copumpkin>	anyway, I was planning on maxing out the 401k pretax contribution next year, and squeezing more than is supposed to be possible into the roth
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Nov 27 14:15:11 <smickles>	adopt a kid, in a certain way, start an education fund for it, and hire a nanny, that's about 20000 of lowering
Nov 27 14:15:30 <copumpkin>	but doesn't the nanny cost me money?
Nov 27 14:15:37 <copumpkin>	:P
Nov 27 14:15:51 <copumpkin>	can I get a virtual kid, like a tamatochi?
Nov 27 14:16:02 <smickles>	heh, you didn't ask to make it better overall, you asked to get into the 15% bracket
Nov 27 14:16:08 <copumpkin>	hah okay :P
Nov 27 14:16:27 <smickles>	also, the nanny might be paid for by EIC,
Nov 27 14:16:38 <smickles>	if we can find a cheap one
Nov 27 14:17:01 <copumpkin>	what if I knock up 20 different girls and claim 20 kids
Nov 27 14:17:14 <copumpkin>	but leave them to take care of them and don't pay childcare
Nov 27 14:17:17 <smickles>	they'd have to all be born this year :|
Nov 27 14:17:39 <copumpkin>	damn
Nov 27 14:17:39 <copumpkin>	I need to get busy
Nov 27 14:17:43 <copumpkin>	lots of premies coming
Nov 27 14:18:31 <copumpkin>	I think my best bet is to set up some sort of S-corp or something and then do "consulting" on the side that lets me deduct a bunch of things
Nov 27 14:18:34 <copumpkin>	would that make sense?
Nov 27 14:19:07 <smickles>	I think you could also 'lend' a lot of money to your family, not charge interest, but be required to count a certain minimum amount of interest as income even tho you didn't charge it
Nov 27 14:19:18 <copumpkin>	interesting
Nov 27 14:19:19 <smickles>	copumpkin: yup
Nov 27 14:19:24 <copumpkin>	all my family is abroad though
Nov 27 14:19:26 <copumpkin>	does that affect things?
Nov 27 14:20:01 <jcpham>	you guys are reminding me that i need an accountant
Nov 27 14:20:02 <copumpkin>	wait, why would counting additional income from non-existent interest be beneficial?
Nov 27 14:20:06 <jcpham>	a good one.
Nov 27 14:20:12 <copumpkin>	jcpham: smickles!
Nov 27 14:20:26 <smickles>	copumpkin: in this case, the corp should have all losses
Nov 27 14:20:39 <smickles>	more expenses than income
Nov 27 14:20:45 <copumpkin>	oh, I'd count it as being due but not getting collected
Nov 27 14:20:47 <copumpkin>	and thus a loss?
Nov 27 14:20:56 <jcpham>	smickles is definitely my number one choice for ninja accountant
Nov 27 14:21:35 <smickles>	well, your investment in the corp would lower your income, and the corp wouldn't pay taxes because only profit is taxed
Nov 27 14:21:36 <copumpkin>	unfortunately, sending a bunch of money overseas to my parents will probably get me on a TSA watchlist for "funding terror" or something like that
Nov 27 14:21:40 <smickles>	expenses are deducted
Nov 27 14:22:33 <copumpkin>	my parents are terrifying
Nov 27 14:22:35 <smickles>	and if we can't help but profit on this corp, we keep the money in the corp, and have it setup in ireland or somewhere good for taxes
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Nov 27 14:23:20 <smickles>	plus, we must not forget, you can deduct the cost of tax prep from last year
Nov 27 14:23:23 <copumpkin>	hmm, that's an interesting idea
Nov 27 14:23:37 <copumpkin>	I didn't spend much money on that :P
Nov 27 14:23:47 <smickles>	bbl ;)
Nov 27 14:23:52 <copumpkin>	ciao :) thanks
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Nov 27 14:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005124 = 1.2016 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7483 @ 0.00051221 = 3.8329 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 14:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051964 = 1.2186 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4655 @ 0.00051972 = 2.4193 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:31:38 <jurov>	copumpkin, learn them how to exchange bitcoins :P
Nov 27 14:31:42 <dub>	I made the jesus mint sauce
Nov 27 14:32:23 <dub>	moar like mint beurre blanc but sweet
Nov 27 14:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051951 = 1.2183 BTC [-]
Nov 27 14:32:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11667 @ 0.00051972 = 6.0636 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8488 @ 0.00051972 = 4.4114 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;halfreward
Nov 27 14:36:53 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 19:06:53 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 23 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 27 14:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Nov 27 14:37:11 <dub>	.net
Nov 27 14:41:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00052039 = 8.6905 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00052068 = 1.0414 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:42:08 <copumpkin>	smickles: what made you decide you wanted to go into accounting?
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Nov 27 14:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	he already had a hot gf
Nov 27 14:46:14 <kakobrekla>	hi
Nov 27 14:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9835 @ 0.00052068 = 5.1209 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:47:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10615 @ 0.00052182 = 5.5391 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00052182 = 3.1831 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	heya
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Nov 27 14:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12785 @ 0.00052182 = 6.6715 BTC [+]
Nov 27 14:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11415 @ 0.00052279 = 5.9676 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1235 @ 0.00052279 = 0.6456 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:06:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00052408 = 5.8435 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00052524 = 4.3595 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:06:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9569 @ 0.0005253 = 5.0266 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2869 @ 0.0005253 = 1.5071 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:08:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00052554 = 3.4948 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00052562 = 0.5256 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4431 @ 0.00052563 = 2.3291 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 15:12:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4932 @ 0.00052563 = 2.5924 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128019.msg1361457#msg1361457
Nov 27 15:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol people like mpoe-pr nao ?!
Nov 27 15:17:51 <jurov>	only her boobies
Nov 27 15:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	as opposed to all the other girls people like not for their boobies
Nov 27 15:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	but for the person they are deep inside.
Nov 27 15:21:56 <mod6>	haha
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Nov 27 15:25:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005202 = 1.2199 BTC [-]
Nov 27 15:25:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1055 @ 0.00051993 = 0.5485 BTC [-]
Nov 27 15:33:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052021 = 1.2199 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:33:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1557 @ 0.00051993 = 0.8095 BTC [-]
Nov 27 15:33:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20823 @ 0.00051991 = 10.8261 BTC [-]
Nov 27 15:37:27 <Namjies>	and buttons deployed
Nov 27 15:37:29 <Namjies>	http://www.namworld.net/
Nov 27 15:37:32 <smickles>	19:42 < copumpkin> smickles: what made you decide you wanted to go into accounting? <<< well, I actually like doing the work which is involved in most aspects of accounting. Also, once if figured out that it's actually a valuable service,... well, it seems like an honorable profession to me
Nov 27 15:37:36 <Namjies>	That should do it.
Nov 27 15:38:07 <smickles>	s/if/I/
Nov 27 15:38:23 <Namjies>	With valid HTML5 and CSS3
Nov 27 15:38:42 <Namjies>	smickles: it is. Valuable services.
Nov 27 15:39:05 <Namjies>	Taxes and income reporting keeps getting more complex.
Nov 27 15:39:55 <copumpkin>	smickles: cool, seems like a good reason :)
Nov 27 15:40:06 <Namjies>	Also just keeping records can be burdensome for large enterprises.
Nov 27 15:40:21 <smickles>	Namjies: once they process my llc paperwork, i'll need a good webpage where people can order my services, it looks like you might be one of the peeps i ask for a bid on that from
Nov 27 15:40:42 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies not bad but the logo sucks
Nov 27 15:41:03 <Namjies>	... what do you want as a logo?
Nov 27 15:41:13 <smickles>	woah, i just realized it's not "nameworld"
Nov 27 15:41:15 <jcpham>	i vote dildo
Nov 27 15:41:21 <kakobrekla>	i agree
Nov 27 15:41:27 <jcpham>	smh
Nov 27 15:41:38 <Namjies>	I'll keep it how it is...
Nov 27 15:42:04 <Namjies>	smickles, indeed.
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Nov 27 15:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	i don't mean the text, i mean the gfx
Nov 27 15:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	it looks really out of place with the bootstrap style
Nov 27 15:45:09 <Namjies>	Hmm... odd. I see many websites with a logo similarly placed. I always liked it like that.
Nov 27 15:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	not the placement either.
Nov 27 15:46:05 <Namjies>	Ah. What makes it look out of place?
Nov 27 15:46:29 <Diablo-D3>	Im guessing mp has not seen my boobies comment yet
Nov 27 15:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i'm not an expert in design so i can't really cogently explain. it's a matter of style.
Nov 27 15:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	maybe get a 2nd opinion from someone who knows shit.
Nov 27 15:48:13 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 heh she's shown me.
Nov 27 15:49:30 <Namjies>	Eh, I just hoped you could explain what in the graphic bothered you when placed there. Like the contrast with the black background. Or anything like that.
Nov 27 15:50:00 *	Diablo-D3 salutes as a member of the 301st
Nov 27 15:50:25 <mircea_popescu>	probably the sharp edges of the letters, their straightness, the spacing between M and W
Nov 27 15:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	stuff like that
Nov 27 15:50:36 <Diablo-D3>	OH DEAR GOD
Nov 27 15:50:38 <Diablo-D3>	THE KERNING
Nov 27 15:50:49 <JWU_42>	i can't recall the format to get bitcoind to show more than 10 transactions
Nov 27 15:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 tho tbh... http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135394065043.jpg
Nov 27 15:50:57 <JWU_42>	anyone have an idea
Nov 27 15:50:59 <Diablo-D3>	NAMJIES, SHTAPH
Nov 27 15:51:08 <Diablo-D3>	JWU42: "*" 42
Nov 27 15:51:15 <JWU_42>	ahh
Nov 27 15:51:19 <JWU_42>	forgot the " "
Nov 27 15:51:23 <JWU_42>	dangit
Nov 27 15:51:27 <JWU_42>	thks Diablo-D3
Nov 27 15:51:35 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: BOOBIES
Nov 27 15:52:00 <smickles>	ah copumpkin I just thought of something
Nov 27 15:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135250520562.jpg ?
Nov 27 15:52:18 <copumpkin>	smickles: oh shit
Nov 27 15:52:20 <copumpkin>	write it down!
Nov 27 15:52:22 <Namjies>	Ah, I see.
Nov 27 15:52:36 <smickles>	I'm not positive on it, but ... you're a hireling, right?
Nov 27 15:52:43 <smickles>	like you have a boss,
Nov 27 15:52:46 <copumpkin>	yeah
Nov 27 15:52:51 <copumpkin>	well, I'm "between jobs" right now
Nov 27 15:52:52 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: BOOBIES!
Nov 27 15:53:01 <copumpkin>	but I will have a boss :P
Nov 27 15:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	and it will be a girl, and she'll be really hot, and he'll be really bothered.
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Nov 27 15:53:42 <copumpkin>	lol no
Nov 27 15:53:46 <copumpkin>	it's an indian dude
Nov 27 15:54:09 <smickles>	you are an employee of a company
Nov 27 15:54:09 <smickles>	if you form an llc, and get your employer to hire the llc instead of you, and your llc pays you a low salary, but high dividends, you'd be taxed at 15%
Nov 27 15:54:14 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: y is -pr not in irc?
Nov 27 15:54:20 <copumpkin>	smickles: cute
Nov 27 15:54:23 <smickles>	woa, lag
Nov 27 15:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB what'd she do here ?
Nov 27 15:54:37 <Namjies>	Because mircea manage the IRC?
Nov 27 15:54:37 <copumpkin>	smickles: I'm not sure I can pull that off, but it'd be amusing if I could
Nov 27 15:54:49 <copumpkin>	smickles: but dividend rates are going up anyway, right?
Nov 27 15:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	why couldn't you ?!
Nov 27 15:54:55 <smickles>	yeah, but it'd help them too
Nov 27 15:54:58 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: chat/gossip?
Nov 27 15:55:05 <smickles>	they hire the llc as a contractor,
Nov 27 15:55:19 <smickles>	they don't have to mess with witholding your taxes and such
Nov 27 15:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB lol i am master of irc
Nov 27 15:55:32 <FabianB>	:)
Nov 27 15:57:04 <smickles>	-pr comes around to irc ocassionally
Nov 27 15:57:13 <smickles>	or someone pretending to be her
Nov 27 15:57:16 <copumpkin>	smickles: interesting. I'll look into it, but it might complicate compliance issues and things like that
Nov 27 15:57:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052559 = 1.2325 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:57:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11783 @ 0.00052563 = 6.1935 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:57:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16772 @ 0.00052565 = 8.8162 BTC [+]
Nov 27 15:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	smickles she used to join and say stuff on -otc
Nov 27 15:57:43 <smickles>	copumpkin: it make it to where you'd have to keep track of your own taxes and pay quarterly estimates
Nov 27 15:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	but kinda not worth the hassle.
Nov 27 15:57:55 <copumpkin>	smickles: yeah, or hire someone else to do that for me :P
Nov 27 15:58:01 <copumpkin>	could be worth it
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Nov 27 15:58:14 <smickles>	heh, that's what accountants are for :D
Nov 27 15:58:19 <Diablo-D3>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128227435041.jpg
Nov 27 15:58:21 <Diablo-D3>	TORPEDOS
Nov 27 15:58:37 <copumpkin>	smickles: how common is it to give hired LLCs bonuses and stuff like that?
Nov 27 15:58:50 <copumpkin>	it seems like they'd typically be given fixed contract rates
Nov 27 15:59:08 <smickles>	copumpkin: i'd have to do research, but i'm sure bonuses could easily be part of contracts
Nov 27 15:59:14 <copumpkin>	hmm, fair enough
Nov 27 15:59:28 <dub>	usually you wouldnt get bonuses but you are paid more up front
Nov 27 15:59:42 <copumpkin>	but bonuses are half the fun :)
Nov 27 16:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 someone's been recently posting all these delicious healtyh women
Nov 27 16:00:06 <mircea_popescu>	i've been enjoying.
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Nov 27 16:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052564 = 1.2326 BTC [-]
Nov 27 16:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14678 @ 0.00052565 = 7.7155 BTC [+]
Nov 27 16:02:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6630 @ 0.0005261 = 3.488 BTC [+]
Nov 27 16:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	so let's see here. worst case scenario :
Nov 27 16:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	reward halves, bfl goes bankrupt, massive run on competitors, no asics till summer.
Nov 27 16:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	btc price = 50 on july 1st, diff ~5mn ?
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Nov 27 16:04:17 <FabianB>	if that's worst, what's best?
Nov 27 16:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	BFL delivers in december, 1 other competitor also delivers by january, diif > 20 mn by july, btc ~ 15ish
Nov 27 16:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	obviously "best" and "worst" are relative terms./
Nov 27 16:05:14 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: worst case senario, the reward halving causes so many people to stop mining, txns stagnate, killing the economy, by the time the diff adjusts or asics hit in full swing, no one is interested, price = .1
Nov 27 16:05:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's inconsistent internally.
Nov 27 16:05:36 <EskimoBob>	"mircea_popescu | btc price = 50 on july 1st, diff ~5mn ?" - if no new and useful services, I think it will be more like 5 EUR
Nov 27 16:05:42 <smickles>	heh, probably
Nov 27 16:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/what-are-the-bitcoin-market-drivers/
Nov 27 16:06:04 <mircea_popescu>	seen that ?
Nov 27 16:06:31 <smickles>	and that was b/f mircea knew SR was down for a long time
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Nov 27 16:07:19 <EskimoBob>	no, I visited your site 3 months ago and it had pictures of rainbow ponies and I listing of some shares.
Nov 27 16:07:34 <EskimoBob>	Oh, and some porn
Nov 27 16:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	it's not porn unless it's wet.
Nov 27 16:07:44 <EskimoBob>	don't forget the porn :)
Nov 27 16:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	smickles indeed lol.
Nov 27 16:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	how the fuck is this possibkle, 2 weeks offline
Nov 27 16:08:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3158 @ 0.00052443 = 1.6561 BTC [-]
Nov 27 16:08:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052407 = 1.2289 BTC [-]
Nov 27 16:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1147 @ 0.00052398 = 0.601 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 16:09:57 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the time to install the *actual* honeypot equipment?
Nov 27 16:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	fuck knows.
Nov 27 16:10:46 <mircea_popescu>	when /. fucked up its db and had to reindex
Nov 27 16:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	it was down ~6 hours.
Nov 27 16:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	if you upgrade you sanely set up the new server first then unplug
Nov 27 16:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard of two weeks before.
Nov 27 16:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052426 = 1.2294 BTC [+]
Nov 27 16:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11305 @ 0.00052398 = 5.9236 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 16:21:18 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1361278#msg1361278
Nov 27 16:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	the nefario = satoshi argument lives on.
Nov 27 16:21:58 <copumpkin>	lol, I find that hard to believe
Nov 27 16:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	i find that very amusing
Nov 27 16:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	think about it. pretty much the only funnier alternative is if boxxy made btc
Nov 27 16:25:27 <kuzetsa>	copumpkin: I don't consider the notion of nefario = satoshi to be any less plausible than gavin being satoshi
Nov 27 16:28:55 <EskimoBob>	no, no,no! it's meeeee!
Nov 27 16:29:19 <EskimoBob>	i still don't know how it happened
Nov 27 16:29:42 <EskimoBob>	LOL... OK, time to go. Have fun
Nov 27 16:32:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14348 @ 0.00052398 = 7.5181 BTC [-]
Nov 27 16:32:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7752 @ 0.00052341 = 4.0575 BTC [-]
Nov 27 16:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	kuzetsa well that's for sure, seeing how it ain't gavin.
Nov 27 16:34:11 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla "smpake.com looks like a great idea.  I'll read up on it."
Nov 27 16:34:18 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg1361671#msg1361671
Nov 27 16:34:52 <kakobrekla>	hm what is this
Nov 27 16:34:57 <kakobrekla>	is this dog?
Nov 27 16:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	i think this is cat
Nov 27 16:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.0005235 = 12.8781 BTC [+]
Nov 27 16:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00052341 = 9.9186 BTC [-]
Nov 27 16:38:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00052341 = 8.5316 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 16:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2599762#post18252095
Nov 27 16:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	doing some advertising for mpex/bitcoin on digitalpoint
Nov 27 16:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone has an acct drop a bump :)
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Nov 27 17:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00052341 = 8.1129 BTC [-]
Nov 27 17:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15098 @ 0.00052341 = 7.9024 BTC [-]
Nov 27 17:11:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5233 @ 0.0005229 = 2.7363 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 17:45:38 <Namjies>	digitalpoint... I stopped going there long ago
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Nov 27 18:16:33 <Namjies>	Must not be cheap to advertise on Digitalpoint
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Nov 27 18:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies so-so.
Nov 27 18:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	it all depends on results ofcourser
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Nov 27 18:29:31 <Namjies>	Eh, not sure if digitalpoint is the best audience. Tell me about it when you get some data.
Nov 27 18:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	well kinda what i'm doing, will publish the results if they suck.
Nov 27 18:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol i see ciuciu is busy at work.
Nov 27 18:33:32 <Namjies>	?
Nov 27 18:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2599762&p=18252251#post18252251
Nov 27 18:36:00 <Namjies>	I keep saying mpex should be on it's own domain...
Nov 27 18:36:21 <Namjies>	People like 1 domain, 1 business
Nov 27 18:36:35 <Namjies>	Not like you don't have a MPEx domain...
Nov 27 18:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	"people"
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Nov 27 18:43:15 <kakobrekla>	people?
Nov 27 18:43:16 <kakobrekla>	http://youtu.be/r9LXD72i-1M
Nov 27 18:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	haha indeed.
Nov 27 18:51:29 <Namjies>	Except in business, where it matters. Because you want their money.
Nov 27 18:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	jesus
Nov 27 18:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	reading a little in digitalpoint...
Nov 27 18:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	it's like a reservation for the mentally retarded
Nov 27 18:52:45 <Namjies>	Don't start reading there... I was in there for some time...
Nov 27 18:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	and i mean that literally.
Nov 27 18:52:50 <dub>	its -otc?
Nov 27 18:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	how can make money from blog post ?
Nov 27 18:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	hi
Nov 27 18:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	as you know there is many websites regarding blog post , I don't know how should earn money through it ?!!
Nov 27 18:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	if someone know please explain
Nov 27 18:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	To make from Payperpost, you neeed to have a very good blog with big popularity and many readers, you must be a sort of influencer. Then, you propose your blog on Payperpost and if advertisers are interested to your blog, they will want to make a post in your blog.
Nov 27 18:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	It is like that you can earn by Payperpost.com
Nov 27 18:53:34 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if they wear shoes with laces.
Nov 27 18:54:05 <mircea_popescu>	brb ima scream at media buying.
Nov 27 18:54:23 <Namjies>	Many non-native english speakers.
Nov 27 18:54:41 <Namjies>	You can spot them easily.
Nov 27 18:56:37 <Namjies>	Also too much spam and Indians, some extremely good to top it. Even if most traffic is US, people are used to lower wages/prices for services.
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Nov 27 18:57:18 <Namjies>	Consider it as majorly a US hiring freelancing Indians, at least for the marketplace.
Nov 27 18:57:57 <Namjies>	Although there's business from around the world, from what I remember, it's mostly that.
Nov 27 19:05:20 <Namjies>	or US to US
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Nov 27 19:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't seem too valuable in any case.
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Nov 27 19:31:25 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what is your favorite video game to date?
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Nov 27 19:41:58 <Namjies>	Quitting: The Game
Nov 27 19:42:08 <Namjies>	apparently
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Nov 27 20:24:23 <dub>	dat ass
Nov 27 20:24:28 <dub>	bot
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Nov 27 20:27:21 <Diablo-D3>	;;halfreward
Nov 27 20:27:22 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 19:17:21 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 17 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds.
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Nov 27 20:46:01 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 27 20:46:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.23545, Best ask: 12.29000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05455, Last trade: 12.23545, 24 hour volume: 31807.77034213, 24 hour low: 11.90000, 24 hour high: 12.33900, 24 hour vwap: 12.10926
Nov 27 20:46:13 <thestringpuller>	let the speculation begin
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Nov 27 20:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	heh back up is it
Nov 27 21:00:38 <copumpkin>	smickles: \o/ the treasury stock method for calculating diluted EPS when you have warrants and/or employee stock options
Nov 27 21:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	inb4 copumpkin writes himself warrants
Nov 27 21:03:32 <copumpkin>	:O
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Nov 27 21:24:05 <Namjies>	Question: which of the 3 formats do you prefer?
Nov 27 21:24:09 <Namjies>	http://www.namworld.net/printing
Nov 27 21:26:07 <pigeons>	regular 2 x 3.5
Nov 27 21:26:23 <pigeons>	shar corners are better for picking your teeth wit
Nov 27 21:26:37 <Namjies>	I mean which of the 3 presentation design, you'll notice 3 times the same section
Nov 27 21:28:35 <pigeons>	i cant tell the diffrence
Nov 27 21:30:20 <Namjies>	what?
Nov 27 21:30:39 <Namjies>	scroll down
Nov 27 21:31:04 <Namjies>	There's 3 times the business cards section.
Nov 27 21:31:55 <pigeons>	definately the top is best
Nov 27 21:32:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052848 = 1.2393 BTC [+]
Nov 27 21:32:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24663 @ 0.00052824 = 13.028 BTC [-]
Nov 27 21:33:30 <Namjies>	Hmm, thought so too.
Nov 27 21:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005289 = 1.2403 BTC [+]
Nov 27 21:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7405 @ 0.00052913 = 3.9182 BTC [+]
Nov 27 21:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052834 = 1.239 BTC [-]
Nov 27 21:39:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1069 @ 0.00052824 = 0.5647 BTC [-]
Nov 27 21:39:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9890 @ 0.00052679 = 5.21 BTC [-]
Nov 27 21:39:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6396 @ 0.00052652 = 3.3676 BTC [-]
Nov 27 21:40:13 <dub>	fuck mediawiki is a joke
Nov 27 21:40:42 <dub>	may as well not even have a search function
Nov 27 21:41:20 <Diablo-D3>	http://whotookspaz.org/randomflash/Czechian_pop-hit.swf
Nov 27 21:41:22 <Diablo-D3>	THE FUCK
Nov 27 21:41:46 <Namjies>	Well thanks pigeons
Nov 27 21:42:10 <Namjies>	Will leave it at that I guess.
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Nov 27 21:46:32 <dub>	http://whotookspaz.org/randomflash/catttyy.swf
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Nov 27 21:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052906 = 1.2406 BTC [+]
Nov 27 21:49:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26555 @ 0.00052913 = 14.051 BTC [+]
Nov 27 21:51:00 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=tTEyfNbcMgg == Diablo-D3
Nov 27 21:54:04 <Diablo-D3>	THE SERVER IS DOWN
Nov 27 21:54:04 *	Diablo-D3 makes techno beats and blinks the lights on and off
Nov 27 21:56:29 *	mircea_popescu looks.... nope, mpex is up
Nov 27 21:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052684 = 1.2354 BTC [-]
Nov 27 21:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15055 @ 0.00052652 = 7.9268 BTC [-]
Nov 27 21:58:16 <dub>	the fuck
Nov 27 21:58:22 <dub>	fuck I hate my tem sometimes
Nov 27 21:58:43 <dub>	thisisareallygoodnameforawikidocumentisntit
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Nov 27 21:58:57 <dub>	wtf were you thinking
Nov 27 21:59:41 <dub>	alternatively This_is_how_to_format_a_title_amirite
Nov 27 22:00:21 <Namjies>	what? tem?
Nov 27 22:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052896 = 1.2404 BTC [+]
Nov 27 22:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2779 @ 0.00052913 = 1.4705 BTC [+]
Nov 27 22:00:58 <dub>	team*
Nov 27 22:01:12 <Namjies>	ah
Nov 27 22:02:45 <dub>	and my favorite search poisoning technique, ListOfThingsThatGrindMyGearsBecauseImAnOldIrrelevantMOtherfucket
Nov 27 22:03:37 <Namjies>	what are you talking about exactly? URLs?
Nov 27 22:03:49 <dub>	how not to use a wiki
Nov 27 22:04:31 <Namjies>	Looks like bad url filename tidbits
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Nov 27 22:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00336028 = 5.2084 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 22:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052668 = 1.2351 BTC [-]
Nov 27 22:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3025 @ 0.00052652 = 1.5927 BTC [-]
Nov 27 22:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10530 @ 0.0005259 = 5.5377 BTC [-]
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Nov 27 22:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4394 @ 0.0005259 = 2.3108 BTC [-]
Nov 27 22:40:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6859 @ 0.00052513 = 3.6019 BTC [-]
Nov 27 22:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052549 = 1.2323 BTC [+]
Nov 27 22:43:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6056 @ 0.00052573 = 3.1838 BTC [+]
Nov 27 22:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13349 @ 0.00052603 = 7.022 BTC [+]
Nov 27 22:46:42 <pigeons>	"Are there any sites like SR where I can buy a monkey?"
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Nov 27 22:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052517 = 1.2315 BTC [-]
Nov 27 22:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12431 @ 0.00052513 = 6.5279 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1365 @ 0.00052513 = 0.7168 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00052424 = 9.8819 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:01:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11785 @ 0.00052276 = 6.1607 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052601 = 1.2335 BTC [+]
Nov 27 23:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4555 @ 0.00052603 = 2.3961 BTC [+]
Nov 27 23:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052288 = 1.2262 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:19:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5515 @ 0.00052276 = 2.883 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:19:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00052239 = 8.5411 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1990 @ 0.00052227 = 1.0393 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:23:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052598 = 1.2334 BTC [+]
Nov 27 23:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3566 @ 0.00052603 = 1.8758 BTC [+]
Nov 27 23:24:27 <copumpkin>	pigeons: I need an aardvark
Nov 27 23:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14074 @ 0.00052603 = 7.4033 BTC [+]
Nov 27 23:24:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13380 @ 0.00052913 = 7.0798 BTC [+]
Nov 27 23:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1946 @ 0.00052947 = 1.0303 BTC [+]
Nov 27 23:24:56 <pigeons>	product requests forum
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Nov 27 23:40:01 <copumpkin>	oh man, I have an accounting question for smickles
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Nov 27 23:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.0005284 = 9.5376 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:41:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00052947 = 4.527 BTC [+]
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Nov 27 23:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1905 @ 0.00333382 = 6.3509 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 160 @ 0.00333343 = 0.5333 BTC [-]
Nov 27 23:48:26 <Chaang-Noi>	;;halfreward
Nov 27 23:48:27 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 17:58:26 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 13 hours, 10 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 27 23:49:06 <Namjies>	Soon...
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Nov 27 23:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12604 @ 0.00052947 = 6.6734 BTC [+]
Nov 27 23:57:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19696 @ 0.00052949 = 10.4288 BTC [+]
Nov 27 23:58:03 <copumpkin>	smickles: so why does US GAAP have you put interest payments on CFO but dividend payments on CFF?
Nov 27 23:58:10 <copumpkin>	doesn't make much sense to me
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Nov 28 00:00:32 <[\\\]>	because FUK
Nov 28 00:00:56 <copumpkin>	(assuming you aren't a bank or something paying interest in CFO)
Nov 28 00:02:11 *	copumpkin googles FUK
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Nov 28 00:02:31 <[\\\]>	say it out loud, one letter at a time
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Nov 28 00:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052255 = 1.2254 BTC [-]
Nov 28 00:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1949 @ 0.00052227 = 1.0179 BTC [-]
Nov 28 00:25:06 *	[\\\] is now known as Matthew_n_wright
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Nov 28 00:28:15 *	[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\] is now known as [\\\]
Nov 28 00:28:57 *	[\\\] is now known as `0
Nov 28 00:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17767 @ 0.00052227 = 9.2792 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 00:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052264 = 1.2256 BTC [+]
Nov 28 00:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2401 @ 0.00052277 = 1.2552 BTC [+]
Nov 28 00:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052241 = 1.2251 BTC [-]
Nov 28 00:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00052227 = 2.522 BTC [-]
Nov 28 00:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15626 @ 0.00052175 = 8.1529 BTC [-]
Nov 28 01:03:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11836 @ 0.00052277 = 6.1875 BTC [+]
Nov 28 01:13:47 *	`0 is now known as [\\\]
Nov 28 01:14:59 <pigeons>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDIj9JBTC8&feature=em-uploademail
Nov 28 01:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5411 @ 0.00052277 = 2.8287 BTC [+]
Nov 28 01:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00052339 = 8.7406 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 01:26:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14467 @ 0.00052487 = 7.5933 BTC [+]
Nov 28 01:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6420 @ 0.00052487 = 3.3697 BTC [+]
Nov 28 01:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10530 @ 0.00052537 = 5.5321 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 01:39:40 <Diablo-D3>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 01:39:40 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 17:09:40 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 10 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds.
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Nov 28 01:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00052339 = 7.877 BTC [-]
Nov 28 01:45:18 *	fred123 (bitbnc28-7@4.ger1.bitbnc.com) has left #bitcoin-assets ("Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com")
Nov 28 01:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4620 @ 0.00052537 = 2.4272 BTC [+]
Nov 28 01:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11387 @ 0.00052949 = 6.0293 BTC [+]
Nov 28 01:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12693 @ 0.00052971 = 6.7236 BTC [+]
Nov 28 01:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27289 @ 0.00052339 = 14.2828 BTC [-]
Nov 28 01:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3211 @ 0.00052175 = 1.6753 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 02:09:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00052279 = 1.4115 BTC [+]
Nov 28 02:14:07 <EskimoBob>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 02:14:08 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 17:24:08 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 10 hours, 10 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 02:18:36 *	dust-otc (~dust-otc@unaffiliated/dust-otc) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Nov 28 02:19:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00052279 = 3.7379 BTC [+]
Nov 28 02:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5207 @ 0.00052971 = 2.7582 BTC [+]
Nov 28 02:19:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00052975 = 9.562 BTC [+]
Nov 28 02:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11943 @ 0.00052992 = 6.3288 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 02:24:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4757 @ 0.00052992 = 2.5208 BTC [+]
Nov 28 02:24:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3476 @ 0.00053023 = 1.8431 BTC [+]
Nov 28 02:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00053023 = 4.2949 BTC [+]
Nov 28 02:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4274 @ 0.00053023 = 2.2662 BTC [+]
Nov 28 02:34:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18294 @ 0.00053026 = 9.7006 BTC [+]
Nov 28 02:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10032 @ 0.00053046 = 5.3216 BTC [+]
Nov 28 02:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14693 @ 0.00053022 = 7.7905 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 02:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6017 @ 0.00053022 = 3.1903 BTC [-]
Nov 28 02:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7623 @ 0.00052175 = 3.9773 BTC [-]
Nov 28 02:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2640 @ 0.00333343 = 8.8003 BTC [-]
Nov 28 02:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2010 @ 0.0033273 = 6.6879 BTC [-]
Nov 28 02:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 240 @ 0.00052175 = 0.1252 BTC [-]
Nov 28 02:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2105 @ 0.00052122 = 1.0972 BTC [-]
Nov 28 02:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00052088 = 9.6363 BTC [-]
Nov 28 02:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00052041 = 4.6316 BTC [-]
Nov 28 02:50:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1755 @ 0.00051765 = 0.9085 BTC [-]
Nov 28 03:02:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00051964 = 4.6248 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:02:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00052647 = 3.0272 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00052568 = 7.7801 BTC [-]
Nov 28 03:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00052647 = 0.2369 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3715 @ 0.00053046 = 1.9707 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3253 @ 0.00053046 = 1.7256 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:10:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00053051 = 7.9842 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4747 @ 0.00053071 = 2.5193 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9170 @ 0.00051765 = 4.7469 BTC [-]
Nov 28 03:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00053071 = 1.088 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:17:05 <thestringpuller>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 03:17:06 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 16:37:06 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 8 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 03:17:16 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 28 03:17:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.20120, Best ask: 12.29900, Bid-ask spread: 0.09780, Last trade: 12.29900, 24 hour volume: 31155.90535767, 24 hour low: 11.90000, 24 hour high: 12.35900, 24 hour vwap: 12.14573
Nov 28 03:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3103 @ 0.00053071 = 1.6468 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00053078 = 1.6985 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13297 @ 0.00053091 = 7.0595 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2625 @ 0.00051765 = 1.3588 BTC [-]
Nov 28 03:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79 @ 0.00051752 = 0.0409 BTC [-]
Nov 28 03:24:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00051645 = 9.5543 BTC [-]
Nov 28 03:24:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1446 @ 0.00051637 = 0.7467 BTC [-]
Nov 28 03:25:49 <thestringpuller>	screen -d
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Nov 28 03:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00051959 = 8.4174 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00053091 = 0.9025 BTC [+]
Nov 28 03:43:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00051637 = 9.7078 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 03:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1575 @ 0.00335636 = 5.2863 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 04:04:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8337 @ 0.00053091 = 4.4262 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1766 @ 0.00053091 = 0.9376 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3562 @ 0.000531 = 1.8914 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:19:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6388 @ 0.000531 = 3.392 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22312 @ 0.00053103 = 11.8483 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:23:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00052934 = 5.9815 BTC [-]
Nov 28 04:23:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00052278 = 2.2218 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 04:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 832 @ 0.00052086 = 0.4334 BTC [-]
Nov 28 04:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00052087 = 0.8855 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2388 @ 0.00053103 = 1.2681 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:36:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18220 @ 0.00053117 = 9.6779 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:36:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 777 @ 0.00053185 = 0.4132 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:39:31 <Diablo-D3>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 04:39:32 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 16:49:32 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 7 hours, 10 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 04:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00052907 = 4.259 BTC [-]
Nov 28 04:42:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1394 @ 0.00052907 = 0.7375 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 04:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5856 @ 0.00052907 = 3.0982 BTC [-]
Nov 28 04:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11044 @ 0.00052087 = 5.7525 BTC [-]
Nov 28 04:47:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053184 = 0.5318 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:47:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00053185 = 2.7124 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9910 @ 0.00053185 = 5.2706 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00053193 = 3.7767 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:55:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053208 = 0.5321 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:55:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00053209 = 0.4097 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15730 @ 0.00053209 = 8.3698 BTC [+]
Nov 28 04:58:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4820 @ 0.00053211 = 2.5648 BTC [+]
Nov 28 05:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19735 @ 0.00052186 = 10.2989 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5380 @ 0.00053211 = 2.8628 BTC [+]
Nov 28 05:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25156 @ 0.00053215 = 13.3868 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 05:10:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.0005252 = 9.8475 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:11:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 41 @ 0.0033273 = 0.1364 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:11:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3953 @ 0.00332243 = 13.1336 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1206 @ 0.00332186 = 4.0062 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7694 @ 0.00053215 = 4.0944 BTC [+]
Nov 28 05:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 906 @ 0.0005323 = 0.4823 BTC [+]
Nov 28 05:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.0005323 = 6.6271 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 05:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00053173 = 2.4194 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:27:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0005323 = 5.7488 BTC [+]
Nov 28 05:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/11/cerns-large-hadron-collider-reveals-new-type-of-matter.html
Nov 28 05:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Nov 28 05:32:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00333311 = 2.3332 BTC [+]
Nov 28 05:37:22 *	rdponticelli (~rdpontice@gateway/tor-sasl/rdponticelli) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Nov 28 05:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4744 @ 0.0005323 = 2.5252 BTC [+]
Nov 28 05:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2343 @ 0.00053247 = 1.2476 BTC [+]
Nov 28 05:50:34 *	gribble (~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Nov 28 05:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11217 @ 0.00053173 = 5.9644 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4565 @ 0.00052186 = 2.3823 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.00052087 = 4.729 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:54:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00052087 = 1.172 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00052073 = 3.2546 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00052073 = 9.7897 BTC [-]
Nov 28 05:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4774 @ 0.00052058 = 2.4852 BTC [-]
Nov 28 06:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11026 @ 0.00052058 = 5.7399 BTC [-]
Nov 28 06:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10104 @ 0.00051792 = 5.2331 BTC [-]
Nov 28 06:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8446 @ 0.00051792 = 4.3744 BTC [-]
Nov 28 06:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00051651 = 5.5008 BTC [-]
Nov 28 06:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2654 @ 0.00051637 = 1.3704 BTC [-]
Nov 28 06:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2010 @ 0.00051637 = 1.0379 BTC [-]
Nov 28 06:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5390 @ 0.0005163 = 2.7829 BTC [-]
Nov 28 06:19:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22218 @ 0.00051656 = 11.4769 BTC [+]
Nov 28 06:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4432 @ 0.00051656 = 2.2894 BTC [+]
Nov 28 06:31:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15799 @ 0.00052332 = 8.2679 BTC [+]
Nov 28 06:32:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00052332 = 4.4482 BTC [+]
Nov 28 06:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 268 @ 0.00052261 = 0.1401 BTC [-]
Nov 28 06:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11904 @ 0.00051651 = 6.1485 BTC [-]
Nov 28 06:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2501 @ 0.00052332 = 1.3088 BTC [+]
Nov 28 06:38:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00052632 = 3.6579 BTC [+]
Nov 28 06:54:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00053116 = 6.3739 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 07:03:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00053116 = 6.6926 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell namjies since you asked for it, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/advertising-on-digitalpoint/
Nov 28 07:06:23 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Nov 28 07:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053087 = 1.2449 BTC [-]
Nov 28 07:21:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00053116 = 2.5761 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4657 @ 0.00053247 = 2.4797 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:21:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053263 = 0.5326 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16576 @ 0.00053264 = 8.829 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:22:51 <jurov>	on hat lhc note, today i confirmed mpex orders have a wavefunction, too
Nov 28 07:23:27 <jurov>	one stat, order was there.. then next, nothing was there.... then next... bam, transactions
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Nov 28 07:24:48 <jurov>	i already account for missing new orders.. but for existing orders to vanish before execution.. not yet
Nov 28 07:25:01 *	rg has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
Nov 28 07:26:07 <jurov>	maybe i'll just rollback whole tx on such anomalous stat results and pretend nothing happened...
Nov 28 07:26:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053237 = 1.2484 BTC [-]
Nov 28 07:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11224 @ 0.00053264 = 5.9784 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:26:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2631 @ 0.00053272 = 1.4016 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 07:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9269 @ 0.00053272 = 4.9378 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19631 @ 0.00053274 = 10.4582 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:28:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053005 = 1.243 BTC [-]
Nov 28 07:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 245 @ 0.00052973 = 0.1298 BTC [-]
Nov 28 07:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21410 @ 0.00052831 = 11.3111 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 07:30:34 <Chaang-Noi>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 07:30:34 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 16:20:34 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 3 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 07:31:30 <jurov>	16:20? lol everyone is trying to milk till it lasts
Nov 28 07:33:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053245 = 1.2486 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:33:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7655 @ 0.00053274 = 4.0781 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18014 @ 0.00053274 = 9.5968 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.0005328 = 2.7173 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:37:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2586 @ 0.00053285 = 1.378 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 07:45:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9127 @ 0.00053285 = 4.8633 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:45:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4323 @ 0.00053287 = 2.3036 BTC [+]
Nov 28 07:50:02 <EskimoBob>	around 16.00-16.30 and 50 btc blocks are gone for good.
Nov 28 07:50:58 <EskimoBob>	Any predictions what a GPU boar will cost after that :) -20%? -40% -50%? or -60%?
Nov 28 07:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052855 = 1.2394 BTC [-]
Nov 28 07:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6790 @ 0.00052831 = 3.5872 BTC [-]
Nov 28 07:53:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00051971 = 1.4292 BTC [-]
Nov 28 07:53:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18805 @ 0.0005194 = 9.7673 BTC [-]
Nov 28 08:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 712 @ 0.00333311 = 2.3732 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:05:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00334865 = 3.6835 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:05:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 825 @ 0.00335636 = 2.769 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:05:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1295 @ 0.00336028 = 4.3516 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9581 @ 0.0005202 = 4.984 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:11:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051947 = 1.2182 BTC [-]
Nov 28 08:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11945 @ 0.0005194 = 6.2042 BTC [-]
Nov 28 08:11:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1010 @ 0.0005163 = 0.5215 BTC [-]
Nov 28 08:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150 @ 0.0005163 = 0.0774 BTC [-]
Nov 28 08:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00051589 = 1.8056 BTC [-]
Nov 28 08:26:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00051589 = 3.3017 BTC [-]
Nov 28 08:26:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8320 @ 0.00051576 = 4.2911 BTC [-]
Nov 28 08:26:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6180 @ 0.00051486 = 3.1818 BTC [-]
Nov 28 08:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20351 @ 0.00051615 = 10.5042 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9958 @ 0.0005202 = 5.1802 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 08:42:13 <Chaang-Noi>	i just got a brand new 5870 lol
Nov 28 08:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	mazel tov
Nov 28 08:43:12 <Chaang-Noi>	was a responce to eskimobob
Nov 28 08:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052836 = 1.239 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:43:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5726 @ 0.00052854 = 3.0264 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:43:15 <Chaang-Noi>	you lack context
Nov 28 08:43:20 <Chaang-Noi>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 08:43:20 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 15:13:20 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 08:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052827 = 1.2388 BTC [-]
Nov 28 08:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1805 @ 0.00052854 = 0.954 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11298 @ 0.00052854 = 5.9714 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 08:48:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 630 @ 0.00052854 = 0.333 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10206 @ 0.00053119 = 5.4213 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8644 @ 0.00053287 = 4.6061 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:52:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16633 @ 0.00053287 = 8.8632 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:52:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17412 @ 0.00053298 = 9.2802 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12855 @ 0.00053309 = 6.8529 BTC [+]
Nov 28 08:56:58 <Chaang-Noi>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 08:56:58 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 15:16:58 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 hour, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 09:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5464 @ 0.00052988 = 2.8953 BTC [-]
Nov 28 09:02:31 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: LTC mining :)
Nov 28 09:02:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i might, electric here is a bit high, and its hot
Nov 28 09:03:05 <Chaang-Noi>	thailand is not the best place in the world to mine :/
Nov 28 09:03:50 <EskimoBob>	or PPC? I mined PPC for fun but mining is so pointless unless you have some serious hashing power
Nov 28 09:05:46 <EskimoBob>	I can only do about 355.0Mh/s and this is a joke :)
Nov 28 09:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1406 @ 0.00052988 = 0.745 BTC [-]
Nov 28 09:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15144 @ 0.00052742 = 7.9872 BTC [-]
Nov 28 09:09:47 <Chaang-Noi>	i might be able to hit 2 G
Nov 28 09:10:04 <Chaang-Noi>	but its not worth it cuz my cooling and electric costs :/
Nov 28 09:10:08 <Chaang-Noi>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 09:10:08 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 15:10:08 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 hour and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 09:10:20 <Chaang-Noi>	;;blocks
Nov 28 09:10:21 <gribble>	209994
Nov 28 09:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16695 @ 0.00053309 = 8.8999 BTC [+]
Nov 28 09:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3605 @ 0.0005331 = 1.9218 BTC [+]
Nov 28 09:14:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052769 = 1.2374 BTC [-]
Nov 28 09:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6755 @ 0.00052742 = 3.5627 BTC [-]
Nov 28 09:18:52 <EskimoBob>	coinotrons Profitability calculator will show something funny in about 55 min
Nov 28 09:19:41 <EskimoBob>	and if I am correct, this will switch lotsof miners over to LTC or PPC
Nov 28 09:20:12 <EskimoBob>	at least they used to have automatic switching
Nov 28 09:21:07 <EskimoBob>	BTC 33.0 GH, PPC 46.7 GH, LTC 85.4 MH
Nov 28 09:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052764 = 1.2373 BTC [+]
Nov 28 09:21:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2274 @ 0.00052742 = 1.1994 BTC [-]
Nov 28 09:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 881 @ 0.00052399 = 0.4616 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 09:24:49 <Ukto>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 09:24:49 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 15:24:49 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 hour and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 09:26:34 <Chaang-Noi>	hey ukto
Nov 28 09:26:52 <Ukto>	wazaup
Nov 28 09:27:30 <Chaang-Noi>	block party:)
Nov 28 09:27:46 <Ukto>	i found a nice one.. but its like a standard stock graph, uses a plot point per day
Nov 28 09:27:53 <Ukto>	i think ppl want actual trades
Nov 28 09:28:15 <Ukto>	the one that will zoom and do a full per-trades, is nice, but doesnt load on mobile
Nov 28 09:28:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053307 = 1.25 BTC [+]
Nov 28 09:28:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23005 @ 0.0005331 = 12.264 BTC [+]
Nov 28 09:28:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6458 @ 0.00053332 = 3.4442 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 09:31:27 <EskimoBob>	because this is going to be a sad day for most of the miners, I recommend you to send me your first mined coin. Then at least someone is happy -> 15WLztstXkfybemi9Ecd9FQ4vt6wiJjN6b .. and you will feel better too ... LOL
Nov 28 09:32:37 <EskimoBob>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 09:32:38 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 15:12:38 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 40 minutes and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 09:32:50 <EskimoBob>	;;blocks
Nov 28 09:32:51 <gribble>	209996
Nov 28 09:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052433 = 1.2296 BTC [-]
Nov 28 09:33:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17505 @ 0.00052399 = 9.1724 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 09:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053305 = 1.25 BTC [+]
Nov 28 09:37:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6342 @ 0.00053332 = 3.3823 BTC [+]
Nov 28 09:37:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7928 @ 0.00053336 = 4.2285 BTC [+]
Nov 28 09:37:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 325 @ 0.00053362 = 0.1734 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 09:41:47 <EskimoBob>	I bet, out there is a pervert or two who are going to whip themselves with LAN cables on that sad sad day
Nov 28 09:41:59 <Chaang-Noi>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 09:42:00 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 15:11:59 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 30 minutes and 0 seconds.
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Nov 28 09:48:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052793 = 1.238 BTC [-]
Nov 28 09:48:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00052784 = 11.982 BTC [-]
Nov 28 09:48:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5655 @ 0.00052399 = 2.9632 BTC [-]
Nov 28 09:51:05 <jurov>	oh, still 3 blocks to go?
Nov 28 09:54:14 <Chaang-Noi>	;;blocks
Nov 28 09:54:15 <gribble>	209997
Nov 28 09:57:36 <EskimoBob>	3 to go
Nov 28 09:57:48 <EskimoBob>	tick fkn tack ...
Nov 28 09:57:57 <EskimoBob>	and we all are fkt
Nov 28 10:00:04 <jurov>	2 to go
Nov 28 10:02:06 <EskimoBob>	and the the blchain gets forked and puff... it's all gone
Nov 28 10:02:30 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Nov 28 10:02:32 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 209999 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 1680 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 56 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3713945.01025181 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.9977706092
Nov 28 10:02:49 <EskimoBob>	 7.9977706092 FUCK!
Nov 28 10:03:07 <EskimoBob>	so, 300% this year?
Nov 28 10:03:21 <kakobrekla>	i think diff will drop
Nov 28 10:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00053321 = 15.3031 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:03:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 298 @ 0.00053013 = 0.158 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:03:38 <EskimoBob>	I bet no one predicted that in March
Nov 28 10:03:51 <EskimoBob>	not even in June
Nov 28 10:05:02 <jurov>	eskimo, no cigar?
Nov 28 10:06:14 <EskimoBob>	sure, I love Cuban sigars
Nov 28 10:06:14 *	jurov sends a little consolation to eskimo
Nov 28 10:06:23 <EskimoBob>	*cigars
Nov 28 10:06:42 <EskimoBob>	no you did not! jurov
Nov 28 10:06:47 <jurov>	i'm in a different kind of "mining", tho.
Nov 28 10:06:53 <EskimoBob>	that was just a joke
Nov 28 10:07:07 <EskimoBob>	but thank, I'll name it "jurov"
Nov 28 10:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34313 @ 0.00053013 = 18.1904 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2087 @ 0.00052735 = 1.1006 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:08:47 <jurov>	dun dun dun xD
Nov 28 10:10:53 <jurov>	at least for you the waiting is over
Nov 28 10:11:17 <jurov>	for me the day D is the Last Friday 30th
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Nov 28 10:14:07 <kakobrekla>	ok i played some SD in last block
Nov 28 10:14:10 <kakobrekla>	won some change
Nov 28 10:18:23 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Nov 28 10:18:26 <gribble>	Time since last block: 16 minutes and 46 seconds
Nov 28 10:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00052735 = 1.1602 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:19:36 <jurov>	oh no all by bitcoind's just segfaulted !!!
Nov 28 10:19:43 <jurov>	*jokes*
Nov 28 10:22:35 <leotreasure>	www.soundcloud.com/djleo Bitcoin songs
Nov 28 10:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053356 = 1.2512 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:23:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8555 @ 0.00053362 = 4.5651 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:27:05 <jurov>	it's here, blockchain.info has fireworks
Nov 28 10:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052767 = 1.2374 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13574 @ 0.00052735 = 7.1582 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:29:36 <kakobrekla>	yup
Nov 28 10:29:37 <kakobrekla>	http://blockchain.info/block-index/322335/000000000000048b95347e83192f69cf0366076336c639f9b7228e9ba171342e
Nov 28 10:29:39 <kakobrekla>	slush got it
Nov 28 10:30:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053328 = 1.2505 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24802 @ 0.00053362 = 13.2348 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:31:30 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Nov 28 10:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052754 = 1.2371 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:32:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5305 @ 0.00052735 = 2.7976 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7234 @ 0.00052735 = 3.8148 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15166 @ 0.00052733 = 7.9975 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:35:35 <pigeons>	hey IBB fans: https://cryptostocks.com/securities/28
Nov 28 10:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053331 = 1.2506 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:37:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23918 @ 0.00053362 = 12.7631 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5529 @ 0.00053364 = 2.9505 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:40:36 <Ukto>	well
Nov 28 10:40:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005333 = 1.2506 BTC [-]
Nov 28 10:40:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4105 @ 0.00053364 = 2.1906 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:40:43 <Ukto>	i havent even been able to get sanz to reply to me
Nov 28 10:50:13 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons are you interested in buying TRC, or did you just want a few coins for the novelty?
Nov 28 10:50:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16266 @ 0.00053364 = 8.6802 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12534 @ 0.00053372 = 6.6896 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:51:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7612 @ 0.00053372 = 4.0627 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:52:27 <pigeons>	yes and yes
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Nov 28 10:54:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7124 @ 0.00053372 = 3.8022 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15620 @ 0.0005339 = 8.3395 BTC [+]
Nov 28 10:55:51 *	Ukto buys Chaang-Noi
Nov 28 10:55:58 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
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Nov 28 11:03:35 <thestringpuller>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 11:03:36 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Fri Nov 25 23:33:36 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 3 years, 51 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 11:03:43 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Nov 28 11:03:49 <thestringpuller>	it halved while I was asleep!
Nov 28 11:03:52 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 28 11:03:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.31595, Best ask: 12.31596, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.31596, 24 hour volume: 28954.59343935, 24 hour low: 11.91301, 24 hour high: 12.40712, 24 hour vwap: 12.21012
Nov 28 11:04:01 <thestringpuller>	let the volatility begin
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Nov 28 11:04:56 <jurov>	what volatility? like, halfreward should cause eveyone to run around like chicken?
Nov 28 11:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11080 @ 0.0005339 = 5.9156 BTC [+]
Nov 28 11:12:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6172 @ 0.00053397 = 3.2957 BTC [+]
Nov 28 11:12:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1648 @ 0.00053419 = 0.8803 BTC [+]
Nov 28 11:12:39 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Nov 28 11:12:40 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 210003 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 1676 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 10 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3690038.19454093 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.30258454909
Nov 28 11:13:09 <thestringpuller>	i did a survey of a few miners
Nov 28 11:13:11 <thestringpuller>	not the big ones
Nov 28 11:13:50 <thestringpuller>	they do this quarterly liquidation thing
Nov 28 11:14:04 <thestringpuller>	but with half reward some of them just want out
Nov 28 11:14:28 <thestringpuller>	so you may see a spike in trade volume soon which I suppose would cause volatility
Nov 28 11:14:47 <pigeons>	how do we know you're not just pulling our strings?
Nov 28 11:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052739 = 1.2367 BTC [-]
Nov 28 11:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7134 @ 0.00052733 = 3.762 BTC [-]
Nov 28 11:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00052453 = 3.7242 BTC [-]
Nov 28 11:19:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1171 @ 0.00052427 = 0.6139 BTC [-]
Nov 28 11:19:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17660 @ 0.00053419 = 9.4338 BTC [+]
Nov 28 11:20:05 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/3N/bx/4wJj9lov/btchehe.png
Nov 28 11:20:06 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Nov 28 11:20:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053405 = 1.2523 BTC [-]
Nov 28 11:20:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5105 @ 0.00053419 = 2.727 BTC [+]
Nov 28 11:20:29 <kakobrekla>	bout 2.5 times normal traffic? :)
Nov 28 11:22:39 <pigeons>	https://btcjam.com/listings/734
Nov 28 11:23:31 <kakobrekla>	hmm?
Nov 28 11:25:23 <pigeons>	just interesting. i want to start a risky biz, "totally anonymous" cards, i'm disabled and unemployed, can't get my paperwork to verify
Nov 28 11:25:33 <pigeons>	i'm sure it's fine, just interesting to me
Nov 28 11:30:00 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Nov 28 11:30:01 <assbot>	Provide ticker.
Nov 28 11:30:12 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Nov 28 11:30:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.22302, Best ask: 12.31997, Bid-ask spread: 0.09695, Last trade: 12.31997, 24 hour volume: 28072.54106340, 24 hour low: 11.91301, 24 hour high: 12.40712, 24 hour vwap: 12.21514
Nov 28 11:30:24 <Diablo-D3>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 11:30:25 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Fri Nov 25 23:50:24 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 3 years, 51 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 11:30:38 <Diablo-D3>	ahh it happened already
Nov 28 11:31:48 <mod6>	\o/
Nov 28 11:32:13 <Diablo-D3>	never got my block :<
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Nov 28 11:38:36 <mod6>	you tried to send on block 210000?
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Nov 28 11:39:05 <mod6>	(08:33) < tyfaust> Block 210000: Generation: 25 + 13.56295554 total fees.... why so much in fees? It is the most I have seen in fees for any block.
Nov 28 11:39:19 <mod6>	^^^ sounds like many people tried to send there to sign the block or something
Nov 28 11:39:46 <jcpham>	lies
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Nov 28 11:40:35 <mod6>	jcpham: *shrug* they're talking about that in #bitcoin-otc
Nov 28 11:41:10 <jcpham>	nuh uh
Nov 28 11:41:27 <mod6>	haha
Nov 28 11:41:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 918 @ 0.00336718 = 3.0911 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 11:47:43 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Nov 28 11:47:45 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00051221 / 0.0005251 / 0.00053419 (3704533 shares, 1,945.27 BTC), 30day: 0.00045734 / 0.00050251 / 0.0005386 (84430956 shares, 42,427.83 BTC)
Nov 28 11:52:25 <smickles>	copumpkin: that directly relates to the sort of business in question
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Nov 28 11:53:21 <smickles>	CFO is for is the main 'thing' that the business makes money at
Nov 28 11:53:44 <smickles>	CFO for TacoBell is selling tacos, not making interest on their cash balance
Nov 28 11:54:01 <smickles>	CFF is most anything related to how the company raised money
Nov 28 11:54:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053034 = 1.2436 BTC [-]
Nov 28 11:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12555 @ 0.00053 = 6.6542 BTC [-]
Nov 28 11:56:35 <smickles>	also, there's trickyness in that you receive dividens from others in cfo, but you pay your difidends in cff
Nov 28 11:59:46 <smickles>	oh, and interest is cfo on both sides, i think, because you didn't *raise* money by taking a loan
Nov 28 11:59:50 <smickles>	you bought it
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Nov 28 12:02:40 <thestringpuller>	mr. smickles
Nov 28 12:03:20 <Doffx>	;;bc diff
Nov 28 12:03:21 <gribble>	Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
Nov 28 12:03:30 <Doffx>	;;diff
Nov 28 12:03:31 <gribble>	3438908.9601591383
Nov 28 12:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053409 = 1.2524 BTC [+]
Nov 28 12:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1237 @ 0.00053419 = 0.6608 BTC [+]
Nov 28 12:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4018 @ 0.00053421 = 2.1465 BTC [+]
Nov 28 12:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4232 @ 0.00053421 = 2.2608 BTC [+]
Nov 28 12:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00053435 = 7.5076 BTC [+]
Nov 28 12:10:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2326 @ 0.00053452 = 1.2433 BTC [+]
Nov 28 12:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053016 = 1.2432 BTC [-]
Nov 28 12:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10545 @ 0.00053 = 5.5889 BTC [-]
Nov 28 12:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7990 @ 0.00052807 = 4.2193 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 12:18:41 <smickles>	howdy thestringpuller :)
Nov 28 12:19:09 <smickles>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 12:19:10 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Fri Nov 25 23:09:09 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 3 years, 51 weeks, 6 days, 5 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 12:19:18 <smickles>	how about that
Nov 28 12:19:21 <Diablo-D3>	yeah its already passed
Nov 28 12:19:30 <Diablo-D3>	I switched back to mining on p2pool
Nov 28 12:21:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00334633 = 6.358 BTC [-]
Nov 28 12:24:49 <thestringpuller>	how good are at 3D programming senor smickles?
Nov 28 12:25:45 <smickles>	I dunno, closest i've come is minecraft mods.
Nov 28 12:26:11 <jcpham>	blocks on blocks on blocks
Nov 28 12:26:21 <thestringpuller>	racks on racks on racks?
Nov 28 12:26:27 <jcpham>	racks on racks?
Nov 28 12:26:28 <thestringpuller>	that's what I expect mircea to have in his house
Nov 28 12:26:34 <jcpham>	stacks on stacks on stacks
Nov 28 12:26:35 <thestringpuller>	stacks of cash
Nov 28 12:27:09 <thestringpuller>	ima start callin' him da rubberband man
Nov 28 12:27:20 <jcpham>	bandz a' make her dance
Nov 28 12:27:21 <jcpham>	bandz a' make her dance
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Nov 28 12:27:28 <smickles>	bacon cooked in butter, eggs drenchen in shrirasha
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Nov 28 12:28:09 <smickles>	lol, rubberband man
Nov 28 12:29:06 <thestringpuller>	cause he poppin dem bandz when he go to the club
Nov 28 12:29:11 <thestringpuller>	make dem bitchez dance
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Nov 28 12:29:30 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: why'd you switch away from p2pool in the first place?
Nov 28 12:30:01 <thestringpuller>	can you do sqrt with gribble?
Nov 28 12:30:05 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: solo mining
Nov 28 12:30:08 <thestringpuller>	;;calc sqrt(2)
Nov 28 12:30:08 <gribble>	1.41421356237
Nov 28 12:30:09 <smickles>	ah
Nov 28 12:30:11 <thestringpuller>	sweet
Nov 28 12:30:15 <Diablo-D3>	wanted to see if I could get a block in before the reward half
Nov 28 12:30:20 <smickles>	oh
Nov 28 12:30:32 <smickles>	any luck?
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Nov 28 12:30:48 <Diablo-D3>	nope :<
Nov 28 12:31:01 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 28 12:31:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.29999, Best ask: 12.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.30000, 24 hour volume: 28132.92143566, 24 hour low: 11.91301, 24 hour high: 12.40712, 24 hour vwap: 12.22246
Nov 28 12:31:29 <smickles>	so... we can at least saw it wasn't a suddent reaction to the reward drop
Nov 28 12:31:42 <smickles>	*sudden
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Nov 28 12:33:37 <smickles>	maybe the effect will be that the asks just don't fill in like they used to over time
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Nov 28 12:34:19 <thestringpuller>	that will be gradual though
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Nov 28 12:35:00 <Diablo-D3>	bleh
Nov 28 12:37:18 <thestringpuller>	if the world ends on the 21st I'ma be mad for the sole reason I didn't get to play GTA V
Nov 28 12:37:43 <smickles>	oh, it means we have a rational market which already fully priced in the reward change @.@
Nov 28 12:38:10 <smickles>	_if_?
Nov 28 12:38:18 <thestringpuller>	:P
Nov 28 12:38:22 <smickles>	you think there is any significant chance?
Nov 28 12:38:35 <thestringpuller>	Y2K mang
Nov 28 12:38:43 <smickles>	totally
Nov 28 12:38:47 <thestringpuller>	:)
Nov 28 12:38:49 <smickles>	we were boned by that
Nov 28 12:38:55 <thestringpuller>	we had to rebuild
Nov 28 12:38:59 <thestringpuller>	from the ground up
Nov 28 12:39:55 <thestringpuller>	some miners I talked to stated they were exiting the mining game after the reward drop cause the ROI is too high for the equipment
Nov 28 12:40:15 <thestringpuller>	too long*
Nov 28 12:41:18 <thestringpuller>	perhaps it will be harder to get transactions quickly into blocks since miners will demand more network fees
Nov 28 12:42:04 <smickles>	have any pool announced that tho?
Nov 28 12:42:08 <smickles>	surely they would
Nov 28 12:42:36 <thestringpuller>	not on a large scale, this was a small sample set
Nov 28 12:42:40 <thestringpuller>	like 3-4 miners when I had freetime
Nov 28 12:42:58 <thestringpuller>	the whole exiting the game
Nov 28 12:43:37 <thestringpuller>	so it will likely be harder to enter the mining realm now than it was before
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Nov 28 12:43:43 <smickles>	).( woops, i read that as exicted
Nov 28 12:44:08 <thestringpuller>	maybe the majority will stick it out
Nov 28 12:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00052826 = 12.9424 BTC [+]
Nov 28 12:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053451 = 0.5345 BTC [+]
Nov 28 12:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00053452 = 1.7105 BTC [+]
Nov 28 12:44:23 <smickles>	I wonder if enough are exiting that the diff won't drop fast enough
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Nov 28 12:44:57 <thestringpuller>	won't asic equipment entering the mainstream correct that drop though?
Nov 28 12:45:28 <smickles>	but it's not here yet
Nov 28 12:46:00 <smickles>	any time the diff can't drop fast enough, we'll see 1hr+ blocks all the f'ing time
Nov 28 12:46:17 <thestringpuller>	heh
Nov 28 12:46:38 <smickles>	and i don't care if the asics come the next day
Nov 28 12:46:46 <thestringpuller>	maybe there is something to the prediction of transaction fees increasing every reward drop
Nov 28 12:46:46 <smickles>	one day of 1 hour blocks will suck
Nov 28 12:47:08 <thestringpuller>	that would be grounds for miners to exclude a lot of transaction
Nov 28 12:47:12 <thestringpuller>	transactions*
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Nov 28 12:48:48 <smickles>	if there are an average of 200 txns in a block, they't have to pay .125 btc to make up for the reward drop
Nov 28 12:49:07 <thestringpuller>	yea but if you have a 1 hour block
Nov 28 12:49:19 <smickles>	oh, so divide by 6
Nov 28 12:49:21 <thestringpuller>	that's 6 times the txn's
Nov 28 12:49:34 <thestringpuller>	so out of 1200 average txn's
Nov 28 12:49:40 <thestringpuller>	only 200 will make it i
Nov 28 12:49:42 <thestringpuller>	in*
Nov 28 12:50:19 <thestringpuller>	the fees will likely not go up to .125
Nov 28 12:51:05 <thestringpuller>	but I would bet that out of these 200 hypothetical transactions, 99% of them would have paid some kind of miner's fee
Nov 28 12:51:27 <smickles>	http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin-2k.png << we're not seeing a drop yet tho
Nov 28 12:52:07 <smickles>	;;calc 200 * .0005
Nov 28 12:52:08 <gribble>	0.1
Nov 28 12:52:49 <smickles>	;;calc 200 * (.3 / [ticker --last])
Nov 28 12:52:50 <gribble>	4.90196078431
Nov 28 12:53:01 <smickles>	;;calc (.3 / [ticker --last])
Nov 28 12:53:02 <gribble>	0.0245098039216
Nov 28 12:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1001 @ 0.00000001 BTC [-]
Nov 28 12:54:13 <smickles>	!!!
Nov 28 12:54:22 <smickles>	17:54 <@assbot> [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1001 @ 0.00000001 BTC [-]
Nov 28 12:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052847 = 1.2393 BTC [-]
Nov 28 12:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26278 @ 0.00052813 = 13.8782 BTC [-]
Nov 28 12:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4260 @ 0.00052807 = 2.2496 BTC [-]
Nov 28 12:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00052679 = 8.376 BTC [-]
Nov 28 12:55:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 317 @ 0.00052469 = 0.1663 BTC [-]
Nov 28 12:56:24 <EskimoBob>	profitability PPC  1.89 , LTC  2.09
Nov 28 12:56:37 <EskimoBob>	BTC 33.0 GH, PPC 46.7 GH, LTC 85.4 MH
Nov 28 12:56:47 <Diablo-D3>	ppc?
Nov 28 12:56:53 <EskimoBob>	BTC 31.4 GH PPC 128.1 GH LTC 138.7 MH
Nov 28 12:57:12 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: ppc? this is the new BTC ;)
Nov 28 12:57:25 <Diablo-D3>	no I mean, what is it
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Nov 28 13:05:52 <thestringpuller>	GIGA.ETF is still around?
Nov 28 13:07:01 <mod6>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=F.GIGA.ETF
Nov 28 13:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00052565 = 3.3904 BTC [+]
Nov 28 13:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00052699 = 5.8232 BTC [+]
Nov 28 13:10:04 <smickles>	so EskimoBob you're mining ltc then?
Nov 28 13:10:26 <thestringpuller>	smickles: whatever happened to the usagi saga
Nov 28 13:10:38 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i'm sure he's still going insane
Nov 28 13:10:50 <gigavps>	whoa
Nov 28 13:11:05 <thestringpuller>	he was going on and on about people being paid to troll him or something
Nov 28 13:11:10 <smickles>	gigavps: heh, notice your shares are still selling?
Nov 28 13:11:15 <thestringpuller>	XD
Nov 28 13:11:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00052699 = 7.7731 BTC [+]
Nov 28 13:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00053452 = 0.6147 BTC [+]
Nov 28 13:11:19 <gigavps>	0.00000001
Nov 28 13:11:39 <smickles>	don't question the rational market's pricing
Nov 28 13:11:48 <gigavps>	that's redonkulous
Nov 28 13:12:15 <smickles>	gigavps: it's mostly because mircea_popescu doesn't think he should have to file a claim
Nov 28 13:12:25 <smickles>	i don't think he even filed a claim on glbse
Nov 28 13:12:30 <gigavps>	or he doesn't want to
Nov 28 13:12:41 <Diablo-D3>	then he doesnt get anything
Nov 28 13:12:50 <gigavps>	i'm trying to make it easier, but these things take time
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Nov 28 13:13:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00052469 = 6.2438 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:13:14 <smickles>	yeah, he cited a bunch of legal concersn and figured the cost of finding out was too high
Nov 28 13:13:34 <smickles>	and I don't think it has much to do whith what you're doing gigavps
Nov 28 13:13:39 <gigavps>	:(
Nov 28 13:14:04 <gigavps>	well, i'm still running over 200Gh and i have all of the coins
Nov 28 13:14:10 <gigavps>	for back payments
Nov 28 13:14:29 <smickles>	He thinks that the underlying assed went away, and what your are doing is making a relacemnet
Nov 28 13:14:36 <smickles>	*replacement
Nov 28 13:14:51 <smickles>	*asset (jeez, spelling)
Nov 28 13:15:06 <gigavps>	well, teramining was supposed to replace gigamining at some point
Nov 28 13:15:12 <gigavps>	if the equipment ever arrives
Nov 28 13:15:30 <Doffx>	You didn’t get it in Oct?
Nov 28 13:15:33 <Doffx>	:)
Nov 28 13:15:41 <smickles>	that actually relates to his position, f.giga.etf would never move to teramining
Nov 28 13:15:58 <smickles>	so why would it move to the new gigamining
Nov 28 13:16:13 <Doffx>	I'm guessing they deliver in Jan sometime.
Nov 28 13:16:17 <gigavps>	Doffx if i had all of my asic equipment, i'd be doing things like
Nov 28 13:16:22 <smickles>	it was strictly an 'old gigamining' asset
Nov 28 13:16:25 <gigavps>	muhahahahahahahaha
Nov 28 13:16:29 <gigavps>	all the time
Nov 28 13:16:32 <Doffx>	haha
Nov 28 13:16:35 <smickles>	lol
Nov 28 13:16:48 <Doffx>	I think I'm done with Bitcoin Mining, not sure though.
Nov 28 13:16:57 <smickles>	gigavps: arn't you first in line for the BFL asics?
Nov 28 13:17:06 <Doffx>	Depends on if I get my SDICE back and what they are worth
Nov 28 13:17:25 <smickles>	Doffx: people are buying s.dice for nearly .0034 now
Nov 28 13:17:40 <smickles>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.DICE
Nov 28 13:17:45 <Doffx>	Thats good, I bought mine at .0030
Nov 28 13:17:53 <Doffx>	Around that anyhow
Nov 28 13:17:54 <gigavps>	smickles why would you even ask a question like that
Nov 28 13:18:33 <smickles>	gigavps: heh, i dunno, seemed like it might satisfy curiosity, and i hadn't paid much attention to things
Nov 28 13:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052785 = 1.2378 BTC [+]
Nov 28 13:18:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13063 @ 0.0005279 = 6.896 BTC [+]
Nov 28 13:19:06 <Doffx>	I wouldnt mind 2 Asic devices, I just cant afford them.
Nov 28 13:19:30 <smickles>	Doffx: you should wait until the dividend for s.dice, it's looking like a good one this month
Nov 28 13:19:31 <Doffx>	I'm close to having enough for one however.
Nov 28 13:19:44 <Doffx>	I cant sell it anyhow
Nov 28 13:19:53 <Doffx>	Or do anything with it, its that Glsbe passthrough
Nov 28 13:20:04 <smickles>	oh, too bad
Nov 28 13:20:21 <Doffx>	I think DeaDTerra will make good on it once he gets the Info though.
Nov 28 13:20:49 <Doffx>	I'd use Mpex if the account was free-1BTC
Nov 28 13:21:03 <Doffx>	30 is insanity so was 20 imo.
Nov 28 13:21:28 <smickles>	Doffx: what about coinbr?
Nov 28 13:21:59 <Doffx>	Im not going to use some 3rd party site ever again.
Nov 28 13:22:06 <smickles>	heh, ok
Nov 28 13:22:21 <smickles>	apparently my service is cheaper than coinbr anyway
Nov 28 13:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052759 = 1.2372 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 737 @ 0.0005279 = 0.3891 BTC [+]
Nov 28 13:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1718 @ 0.00053452 = 0.9183 BTC [+]
Nov 28 13:22:37 <Doffx>	Thats an Idea
Nov 28 13:22:56 <Doffx>	I can trnsfer my SDICE to you and have you manage them for me once I get them back.
Nov 28 13:23:09 <Doffx>	for your fee price of course
Nov 28 13:23:24 <smickles>	certainly
Nov 28 13:24:34 <smickles>	I'll convert your sdgpt (or whatever it was) to s.dice right now for .5 btc on the bitcoin and a signed statement from deadterra
Nov 28 13:24:47 <Doffx>	Im happy I got ROI on my FPGA devices at least.
Nov 28 13:25:02 <Doffx>	I'm even currently, anything from this point is actual profit.
Nov 28 13:25:08 <smickles>	good deal there on the fpgas
Nov 28 13:25:34 <smickles>	well, you still have to beat electricity tho, right/
Nov 28 13:25:37 <smickles>	?
Nov 28 13:25:48 <Doffx>	They dont use anything really
Nov 28 13:25:58 <Doffx>	3 Units is less than 1 lightbulb
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Nov 28 13:26:08 <smickles>	at today's price/diff that's true
Nov 28 13:26:20 <Doffx>	I'm on a fixed plan, I pay 54 a month regardless of usage.
Nov 28 13:26:48 <smickles>	have you calculated what diff and price where it becomes a concern?
Nov 28 13:26:50 <Doffx>	Im in NW Washington too our power is cheap
Nov 28 13:27:25 <Doffx>	No I have not.
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Nov 28 13:28:01 <Doffx>	If I guess it would be around double what it is now for them to be negative to run.
Nov 28 13:28:48 <smickles>	that sounds like nice profit for now, gratz :)
Nov 28 13:30:25 <Doffx>	Thanks!
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Nov 28 13:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00052946 = 4.1298 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00053452 = 8.098 BTC [+]
Nov 28 13:31:05 <Doffx>	Now I have to make the decision to save it for asic or spend it on things I need to fix the house, or silver.
Nov 28 13:31:45 <smickles>	do you own the house?
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Nov 28 13:32:36 <smickles>	as if i know anything about the situation, but if you own the house, spend at least some of it on the house
Nov 28 13:32:57 <smickles>	it's you castle, man ;)
Nov 28 13:36:47 <thestringpuller>	smickles do you live in the desert?
Nov 28 13:36:55 <smickles>	pretty much
Nov 28 13:37:01 <thestringpuller>	dats awesome
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Nov 28 13:37:12 <smickles>	especially coming from the midwest, this is as much desert as i want
Nov 28 13:37:49 <smickles>	tucson az, it's like 75Â out right now
Nov 28 13:38:00 <thestringpuller>	0 humidity ;)
Nov 28 13:38:10 <smickles>	sunny, gentle breeze, yeah, no humidity
Nov 28 13:38:19 <smickles>	plenty of shade in the city
Nov 28 13:38:28 <thestringpuller>	we should just all move to romania and stay with mircea
Nov 28 13:38:46 <smickles>	heh, i envision he has a little biltmore mansion
Nov 28 13:38:52 <smickles>	plenty of rooms for guests
Nov 28 13:39:25 <thestringpuller>	people don't believe me when I say you should begin prepping for retirement at an early age so you have more leverage while you still have energy to care
Nov 28 13:39:47 <smickles>	i wish i could put more to retirement
Nov 28 13:40:03 <smickles>	I hope my wife decides to go for the full military pension
Nov 28 13:40:14 <thestringpuller>	with your btc abilities you will likely have that leverage before you are 30 methinks
Nov 28 13:41:40 <thestringpuller>	your wife is military: neat
Nov 28 13:41:54 <thestringpuller>	how do I know you're not spy?
Nov 28 13:43:27 <smickles>	thestringpuller: http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/#update_28nov12
Nov 28 13:43:40 <smickles>	thestringpuller: how do you know anyone isn't a spy?
Nov 28 13:43:57 <thestringpuller>	whoooaaa
Nov 28 13:44:01 <thestringpuller>	that blew my mind
Nov 28 13:44:33 <smickles>	try this logically, ask falsifiable questions that are about positive claims
Nov 28 13:44:49 <dub>	;;halfreward
Nov 28 13:44:50 <gribble>	Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Fri Nov 25 22:54:50 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 3 years, 51 weeks, 6 days, 4 hours, 10 minutes, and 0 seconds.
Nov 28 13:45:05 <thestringpuller>	sounds like discrete math
Nov 28 13:45:06 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 28 13:45:36 <thestringpuller>	I still feel like S.DICE is overvalued for the value it provides to the bitcoin world.
Nov 28 13:45:55 <smickles>	heh, i just mean, ask are you a spy? if I give a suspect answer, ask for justification, and question the justification
Nov 28 13:46:00 <pigeons>	it isn't valued in the value it provides to the bitcoin world
Nov 28 13:46:06 <pigeons>	its valued in the dividends
Nov 28 13:46:47 <pigeons>	if you ask a spy straight up they have to tell you, its against the geneva convention and the outer space treaty ;)
Nov 28 13:47:03 <smickles>	yeah, if the pattern holds, an instant >1.5% gain is something everyone should go for
Nov 28 13:47:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052867 = 1.2397 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:47:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7695 @ 0.00052848 = 4.0667 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:47:43 <smickles>	thestringpuller: also, ideally (for the gov't) any spy would be able to convince you they are not a spy
Nov 28 13:47:53 <pigeons>	mpex is valued in the entertainment value of mpoe-pr arguing valuation on the forum with josh
Nov 28 13:47:58 <smickles>	^
Nov 28 13:48:00 <smickles>	true
Nov 28 13:48:12 <thestringpuller>	MPOE provides rock solid options that aren't scams
Nov 28 13:48:19 <thestringpuller>	albeit the bot is expensive as shit
Nov 28 13:48:21 <pigeons>	but porn!
Nov 28 13:48:24 <thestringpuller>	it provides a valuable service
Nov 28 13:48:27 <smickles>	PORN!
Nov 28 13:48:36 <smickles>	PC at that!
Nov 28 13:48:39 <thestringpuller>	yes because naked women is a bad thing?
Nov 28 13:49:04 <smickles>	sexy naruto cosplay is the nectar of the gods
Nov 28 13:49:08 <dub>	;;bc,gen 2200000
Nov 28 13:49:10 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 2200000 Khps, given current difficulty of 3438908.9601591 , is 0.643466419996 BTC per day and 0.0268111008332 BTC per hour.
Nov 28 13:50:38 <dub>	wat.. still profitable
Nov 28 13:51:15 <dub>	that calc is broken though looks like its still at 50/block
Nov 28 13:51:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052854 = 1.2394 BTC [+]
Nov 28 13:51:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17105 @ 0.00052848 = 9.0397 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:51:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1287 @ 0.00052469 = 0.6753 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:51:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23363 @ 0.00052401 = 12.2424 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:52:13 <smickles>	how many IRL companies pay 19% dividend yeild? ... 9
Nov 28 13:52:41 <smickles>	dub: use something like http://bitcoinx.com/profit/
Nov 28 13:52:43 <smickles>	and adjust it
Nov 28 13:53:02 <dub>	i've always used http://bitcoinx.com/profit/
Nov 28 13:53:05 <dub>	er
Nov 28 13:53:11 <thestringpuller>	smickles: but a lot more money is invested in IRL companies
Nov 28 13:53:15 <dub>	http://tpbitcalc.appspot.com
Nov 28 13:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1801 @ 0.00052401 = 0.9437 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4519 @ 0.00052399 = 2.3679 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:53:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12949 @ 0.00052387 = 6.7836 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:53:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3485 @ 0.00052375 = 1.8253 BTC [-]
Nov 28 13:54:04 <thestringpuller>	so you're more likely to make money on the price movement of asset, than the dividends it pays
Nov 28 13:54:15 <smickles>	thestringpuller: there's a lot of differences, it's just neat to compare sometimes
Nov 28 13:54:43 <thestringpuller>	i feel like companies who pay dividends are wasting their money, I used to not think that though
Nov 28 13:55:11 <thestringpuller>	why give money to your shareholders when you can invest it in something to grow the company, shareholders aren't "guarenteed"
Nov 28 13:56:40 <dub>	hmm not so profitable
Nov 28 13:56:51 <dub>	-0.02/day
Nov 28 13:57:33 <dub>	probably worth leaving GPUs running in anticipation of higher btc prices though
Nov 28 13:58:58 <thestringpuller>	smickles: have you ever played GTA-IV?
Nov 28 13:59:40 <dub>	<3 gta4
Nov 28 13:59:53 <smickles>	thestringpuller: a little, but I don't play games too often anymore.
Nov 28 14:00:02 <thestringpuller>	I like the commentary of the American Dream.
Nov 28 14:00:17 <thestringpuller>	Like the question arises, how does one obtain it?
Nov 28 14:01:06 <dub>	by killing the hooker and getting your money back
Nov 28 14:01:16 <thestringpuller>	that doesn't really get you much cash though
Nov 28 14:01:23 <thestringpuller>	your big payoff is when you rob a bank
Nov 28 14:01:53 <dub>	just do like people born into money do and use the cheat codes
Nov 28 14:01:58 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Nov 28 14:02:22 <asa1024>	lol
Nov 28 14:02:24 <thestringpuller>	there is a wink to the government conspiring with criminal organizations though
Nov 28 14:02:40 <thestringpuller>	the anti-terrorist organization tries to cover up one of the mob families' crimes
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Nov 28 14:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053438 = 1.2531 BTC [+]
Nov 28 14:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4806 @ 0.00053452 = 2.5689 BTC [+]
Nov 28 14:08:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00053456 = 9.3281 BTC [+]
Nov 28 14:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5424 @ 0.00053458 = 2.8996 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 14:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005343 = 1.2529 BTC [-]
Nov 28 14:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4021 @ 0.00053458 = 2.1495 BTC [+]
Nov 28 14:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053464 = 0.5346 BTC [+]
Nov 28 14:17:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23134 @ 0.00053465 = 12.3686 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 14:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00053449 = 1.9776 BTC [-]
Nov 28 14:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00053449 = 10.182 BTC [-]
Nov 28 14:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00053449 = 4.0888 BTC [-]
Nov 28 14:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00053465 = 1.1495 BTC [+]
Nov 28 14:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053217 = 1.2479 BTC [-]
Nov 28 14:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2355 @ 0.00053187 = 1.2526 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 14:46:47 <dub>	http://i.imgur.com/jDF04.gif
Nov 28 14:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053219 = 1.248 BTC [+]
Nov 28 14:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11945 @ 0.00053187 = 6.3532 BTC [-]
Nov 28 14:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3510 @ 0.00053165 = 1.8661 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 14:47:22 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Nov 28 14:50:40 <mod6>	haha
Nov 28 14:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053456 = 1.2535 BTC [+]
Nov 28 14:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2764 @ 0.00053465 = 1.4778 BTC [+]
Nov 28 14:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18341 @ 0.00053469 = 9.8067 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 15:08:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 527 @ 0.00053443 = 0.2816 BTC [-]
Nov 28 15:13:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1818 @ 0.00053443 = 0.9716 BTC [-]
Nov 28 15:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4182 @ 0.00053469 = 2.2361 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 15:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053181 = 1.2471 BTC [-]
Nov 28 15:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4790 @ 0.00053165 = 2.5466 BTC [-]
Nov 28 15:24:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00052815 = 7.6054 BTC [-]
Nov 28 15:24:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16718 @ 0.000526 = 8.7937 BTC [-]
Nov 28 15:24:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7647 @ 0.0005256 = 4.0193 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 15:31:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053457 = 1.2536 BTC [+]
Nov 28 15:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7455 @ 0.00053469 = 3.9861 BTC [+]
Nov 28 15:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053147 = 1.2463 BTC [-]
Nov 28 15:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14905 @ 0.00053122 = 7.9178 BTC [-]
Nov 28 15:37:40 <Namjies>	and it should start looking fine: http://www.namworld.net/
Nov 28 15:37:47 <Namjies>	or at least better than before
Nov 28 15:38:09 <kakobrekla>	hm
Nov 28 15:38:41 <kakobrekla>	i dont know any successful web entity that would go along valid html and css
Nov 28 15:40:04 <Namjies>	eh, what?
Nov 28 15:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053458 = 1.2536 BTC [+]
Nov 28 15:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9455 @ 0.00053469 = 5.0555 BTC [+]
Nov 28 15:42:30 <kakobrekla>	the weight of w3c validity link in your footer
Nov 28 15:42:37 <kakobrekla>	the value of it is nil
Nov 28 15:42:40 <kakobrekla>	perhaps even negative
Nov 28 15:43:22 <Namjies>	Ah, yes. It's included by default in the footer for all my websites.
Nov 28 15:43:32 <kakobrekla>	horrible.
Nov 28 15:44:41 <pigeons>	take mpex for example...
Nov 28 15:45:31 <kakobrekla>	and google, amazon, ebay, bing ... while you are at it :)
Nov 28 15:45:32 <pigeons>	i think they got the cherry truck award for most html validation errors last year. i forget who was so enthused about that
Nov 28 15:45:47 <pigeons>	neofutur
Nov 28 15:46:03 <pigeons>	"how can you trust a site with w3c errors!"
Nov 28 15:46:11 <kakobrekla>	impossibru
Nov 28 15:47:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5017 @ 0.00053469 = 2.6825 BTC [+]
Nov 28 15:47:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20683 @ 0.00053472 = 11.0596 BTC [+]
Nov 28 15:48:31 <Namjies>	Eh well.
Nov 28 15:49:38 <Namjies>	About the background noise, should it be lighter or darker you think?
Nov 28 15:50:45 <kakobrekla>	no bitcoin is mentioned
Nov 28 15:51:20 <Namjies>	Thank you, thank you.
Nov 28 15:51:30 <Namjies>	I'm working on the website...
Nov 28 15:51:49 <Namjies>	I'll implement a footer with payment methods eventually.
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Nov 28 15:53:10 <Namjies>	Maybe a nice little set of grayscale icons.
Nov 28 15:53:25 <Namjies>	But for now, background.
Nov 28 15:54:41 <kakobrekla>	and back to bitcoin related stuff, i have put 100btc in hands of my forex trading bot, ill make an update when account is blown :)
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Nov 28 15:56:13 <Namjies>	and if it doesn't blow but make money, donate the bot to me, right?
Nov 28 15:56:57 <kakobrekla>	accually theres about 500btc that wants to go into it atm
Nov 28 15:57:05 <kakobrekla>	ill allow it with 20% cut
Nov 28 15:57:29 <kakobrekla>	but lets see how it does first
Nov 28 16:01:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053132 = 1.2459 BTC [-]
Nov 28 16:01:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45 @ 0.00053122 = 0.0239 BTC [-]
Nov 28 16:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00053096 = 12.743 BTC [-]
Nov 28 16:01:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.0005256 = 2.6595 BTC [-]
Nov 28 16:02:42 <Namjies>	Hmm, interesting. Well certainly update us then.
Nov 28 16:04:20 <kakobrekla>	ill make a chan to stream bot trades into it soonish
Nov 28 16:04:44 <pigeons>	wait you're not a scam anymore?
Nov 28 16:05:25 <kakobrekla>	once milk, always milk.
Nov 28 16:05:55 <dub>	unless custard
Nov 28 16:09:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052586 = 1.2331 BTC [+]
Nov 28 16:09:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5643 @ 0.0005256 = 2.966 BTC [-]
Nov 28 16:09:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9012 @ 0.00052556 = 4.7363 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 16:15:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18688 @ 0.00052556 = 9.8217 BTC [-]
Nov 28 16:15:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2112 @ 0.00052375 = 1.1062 BTC [-]
Nov 28 16:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053338 = 1.2508 BTC [+]
Nov 28 16:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9505 @ 0.00053372 = 5.073 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 16:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053338 = 1.2508 BTC [-]
Nov 28 16:23:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21355 @ 0.00053372 = 11.3976 BTC [+]
Nov 28 16:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7939 @ 0.00053472 = 4.2451 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 16:33:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00052813 = 4.0402 BTC [-]
Nov 28 16:33:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1060 @ 0.00052394 = 0.5554 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 16:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053003 = 0.53 BTC [+]
Nov 28 16:38:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29350 @ 0.00053004 = 15.5567 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 16:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1285 @ 0.00052394 = 0.6733 BTC [-]
Nov 28 16:45:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8414 @ 0.00052375 = 4.4068 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 17:05:38 <pigeons>	so now lurk's loans aren't for gambling anymore, now he's gonna pay off a car note: https://btcjam.com/listings/738
Nov 28 17:07:40 <mircea_popescu>	ughm
Nov 28 17:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052383 = 1.2284 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17389 @ 0.00052375 = 9.1075 BTC [-]
Nov 28 17:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.0005233 = 3.8463 BTC [-]
Nov 28 17:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1516 @ 0.00052225 = 0.7917 BTC [-]
Nov 28 17:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	how quickly they grow up
Nov 28 17:08:13 <mircea_popescu>	it seems like only yesterday he was a wee tyke in the throes of gambling addiction.
Nov 28 17:08:30 <pigeons>	oh here we go, everyone looking for a deal https://btcjam.com/listings/703
Nov 28 17:08:54 <pigeons>	I should start a btcjam analysis newsletter/jokebook
Nov 28 17:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005294 = 1.2414 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:10:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 405 @ 0.00052945 = 0.2144 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	might be a good idea.
Nov 28 17:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	"Pigeon finance"
Nov 28 17:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	I am willing to buy a pick up truck with accommodation to carry public passenger. Daily revenue is a minimum of $ 80 US dollar roughly.
Nov 28 17:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	Payment
Nov 28 17:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	BTC 691.96247
Nov 28 17:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	every 1st of the month
Nov 28 17:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 80 * 30 / 12 / 691
Nov 28 17:12:11 <gribble>	0.289435600579
Nov 28 17:12:13 <pigeons>	he must have a decimal error
Nov 28 17:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, his gross is almost 1/3 of his debt service.
Nov 28 17:12:30 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt it. haiti is poor.
Nov 28 17:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005292 = 1.241 BTC [-]
Nov 28 17:12:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38355 @ 0.00052945 = 20.3071 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:12:46 <pigeons>	and finally https://btcjam.com/listings/709
Nov 28 17:13:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052426 = 1.2294 BTC [-]
Nov 28 17:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00052391 = 6.706 BTC [-]
Nov 28 17:13:44 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. the sooner that pos goes away the better.
Nov 28 17:16:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052913 = 1.2408 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:16:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 590 @ 0.00052945 = 0.3124 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:16:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 788 @ 0.00053004 = 0.4177 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:18:28 <dub>	wat
Nov 28 17:19:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00053193 = 2.8458 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	btcjam
Nov 28 17:20:36 <pigeons>	http://ziggap.com/prop/crunching-numbers.html
Nov 28 17:21:12 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons is http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,624.75.html supposed to be me ?
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Nov 28 17:25:37 <pigeons>	all the trolling of bitcoin, half the humor, .005 the value!
Nov 28 17:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6909 @ 0.00053193 = 3.6751 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:27:38 <mircea_popescu>	ima hire a rabbit to pr me there.
Nov 28 17:28:03 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 2^16
Nov 28 17:28:03 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Nov 28 17:28:19 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 2*2*2*2*2*2
Nov 28 17:28:20 <gribble>	64
Nov 28 17:28:32 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2
Nov 28 17:28:32 <gribble>	4096
Nov 28 17:28:35 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2
Nov 28 17:28:36 <gribble>	1024
Nov 28 17:28:39 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2
Nov 28 17:28:39 <gribble>	512
Nov 28 17:28:42 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2
Nov 28 17:28:42 <gribble>	1024
Nov 28 17:28:44 <thestringpuller>	really
Nov 28 17:28:45 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Nov 28 17:28:47 <thestringpuller>	oh well
Nov 28 17:28:58 <thestringpuller>	thank you gribble
Nov 28 17:29:46 <iz>	;;calc 2**16
Nov 28 17:29:47 <gribble>	65536
Nov 28 17:30:14 <thestringpuller>	all my textures have to be a power of 2 since my gfx card isn't DirectX 10 compatible
Nov 28 17:30:17 <thestringpuller>	f*ing microsoft
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Nov 28 17:30:31 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller 2**16
Nov 28 17:30:56 <thestringpuller>	;;calc [[1,0],[0,1]]
Nov 28 17:30:57 <gribble>	Error: "1,0" is not a valid command.
Nov 28 17:31:00 <thestringpuller>	meh
Nov 28 17:31:04 <thestringpuller>	no matrix operations here
Nov 28 17:32:04 <iz>	[] is for something else
Nov 28 17:32:23 <iz>	;;calc 100*[calc 2**16]
Nov 28 17:32:24 <gribble>	6553600
Nov 28 17:32:38 <thestringpuller>	it's cool, it would be neat to have wolfram alpha like calculations for linear algebra operations
Nov 28 17:32:50 <thestringpuller>	from an irc channel/terminal
Nov 28 17:32:51 <iz>	not in a bot's simple calc function though
Nov 28 17:32:58 <thestringpuller>	i know :)
Nov 28 17:33:03 <iz>	well, there are wolfram alpha bots though
Nov 28 17:33:03 <thestringpuller>	one can dream though no?
Nov 28 17:33:07 <iz>	that just make a request to WA
Nov 28 17:33:27 <iz>	and spit out the result after some light parsing and formatting
Nov 28 17:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00053193 = 8.1651 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:35:05 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... bfl had a bad run, basic is delayed for unspecified reasons till mid january
Nov 28 17:35:11 <mircea_popescu>	is anyone even nominally left in the asic race ?
Nov 28 17:35:42 <dub>	asicminer are quiet afaik
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Nov 28 17:36:18 <Doffx>	Yeah, Smickles I own a house, I'm going to sell it and go rent however. Sorry I had stepped out a couple hours so this reply is super delayed.
Nov 28 17:37:06 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 1024/2
Nov 28 17:37:06 <gribble>	512
Nov 28 17:37:07 <mircea_popescu>	sell it for btc!
Nov 28 17:37:07 <thestringpuller>	512
Nov 28 17:37:08 <thestringpuller>	lol
Nov 28 17:37:24 <thestringpuller>	i saw the house in atlanta that is being sold for btc
Nov 28 17:37:37 <gigavps>	link?
Nov 28 17:37:47 <thestringpuller>	search the forums lol
Nov 28 17:37:50 <thestringpuller>	I'm coding
Nov 28 17:37:59 <thestringpuller>	and using gribble as my arithmetic bitch
Nov 28 17:38:17 *	Gladamas_ is now known as Gladamas
Nov 28 17:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128267.0
Nov 28 17:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	I WIN
Nov 28 17:41:46 <dub>	break even on bfl fpga single is ~12M diff with .22 power
Nov 28 17:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1568 @ 0.00053193 = 0.8341 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	dub so ?
Nov 28 17:44:56 <pigeons>	i want to make a big bet. i'm just using your money as a way to contribute interest to the community. if i lose of course i'll still pay you back in full and on time
Nov 28 17:44:56 <dub>	just reading scrollback
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Nov 28 17:47:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052951 = 1.2417 BTC [-]
Nov 28 17:47:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.00052928 = 11.5648 BTC [-]
Nov 28 17:47:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11654 @ 0.00052707 = 6.1425 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 17:51:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052728 = 1.2365 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:51:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9555 @ 0.00052707 = 5.0362 BTC [-]
Nov 28 17:53:14 <jcpham>	awwww yeah
Nov 28 17:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 28 17:54:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.33000, Best ask: 12.34793, Bid-ask spread: 0.01793, Last trade: 12.34793, 24 hour volume: 30724.00121881, 24 hour low: 12.08000, 24 hour high: 12.40712, 24 hour vwap: 12.27315
Nov 28 17:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053127 = 1.2458 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:54:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21732 @ 0.00053149 = 11.5503 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0005333 = 0.5333 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:54:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00053331 = 6.7197 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:54:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053471 = 0.5347 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11515 @ 0.00053472 = 6.1573 BTC [+]
Nov 28 17:54:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1504 @ 0.00053511 = 0.8048 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 18:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052709 = 1.236 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24155 @ 0.00052707 = 12.7314 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005308 = 1.2447 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:10:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29705 @ 0.00053087 = 15.7695 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:11:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053067 = 1.2444 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:11:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4751 @ 0.00053087 = 2.5222 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:14:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7404 @ 0.0005331 = 3.9471 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:14:35 <Namjies>	Well, seems like F.GIGA.ETF is going away in a bit less than 3 days.
Nov 28 18:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052718 = 1.2362 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:14:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13518 @ 0.00052707 = 7.1249 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
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Nov 28 18:25:15 <smickles>	Doffx: np :)
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Nov 28 18:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	tbh im quite impressed with the bitcoin exchange market
Nov 28 18:26:08 <mircea_popescu>	no halving tremors or anything
Nov 28 18:26:18 <Doffx>	Thats why I may use it for those repairs, I have a lot I want to fix before I sell it.
Nov 28 18:26:55 <Doffx>	Doing the math over the next 7 years we would save a considerable amount not owning a home, plus I want to be debt free asap.
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Nov 28 18:27:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005338 = 1.2518 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00053393 = 5.0723 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:27:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8696 @ 0.00053511 = 4.6533 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7471 @ 0.00053519 = 3.9984 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053519 = 0.5352 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1107 @ 0.0005352 = 0.5925 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 18:33:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.0005352 = 6.0745 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00053143 = 4.65 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:37:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052733 = 1.2366 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 568 @ 0.00052707 = 0.2994 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7987 @ 0.00052462 = 4.1901 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:39:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053505 = 1.2547 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13643 @ 0.0005352 = 7.3017 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:39:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17212 @ 0.00053537 = 9.2148 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:44:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052466 = 1.2303 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:44:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4355 @ 0.00052462 = 2.2847 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:53:00 <jurov>	well, i actually speculated on that halving will be non-event for xchange rate
Nov 28 18:53:55 <jurov>	did split on C120T and sold both calls and puts
Nov 28 18:54:19 <jurov>	we'll see the result tomorrow, but looks very good
Nov 28 18:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052704 = 1.2359 BTC [+]
Nov 28 18:54:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27405 @ 0.00052702 = 14.443 BTC [-]
Nov 28 18:55:34 <jurov>	oh, and just met amir taaki in person.. interesting guy, but i don't understand him much :/
Nov 28 18:55:49 <Doffx>	It seems to me it would be simple supply and demand and I think there is still a lot of supply, I would think it would take a few months to see the block half reduce the supply so the price goes up
Nov 28 18:56:12 <Doffx>	but I'm just guessing
Nov 28 18:57:00 <jurov>	aka genjix
Nov 28 18:57:41 <jurov>	Doffx, yes i see lots of inertia on the btc market lately too
Nov 28 18:58:33 <Doffx>	Oh that's who genjix is? Hes with Intersango now?
Nov 28 18:59:07 <jurov>	did not ask him
Nov 28 18:59:49 <Doffx>	Amir Taaki developed the original inspiration for Intersango, a site named Britcoin to bring bitcoin to the UK. We are pleased to have him with us working on Intersango. Additionally, he is heavily involved with developing bitcoin and is the maintainer of libbitcoin.
Nov 28 19:00:08 <jurov>	he's doing bitcoin programming workshop in bratislava this weekend
Nov 28 19:01:22 <Doffx>	Hes listed on the About page at Intersango.
Nov 28 19:02:01 <jurov>	and i'm torn much whether to go...i explained that i'm hard of hearing but they did not think a way to help me
Nov 28 19:02:10 <jurov>	so i
Nov 28 19:02:21 <jurov>	m probably better with studying writings
Nov 28 19:03:35 <jurov>	today i was reminded that actually i'd have problems to understand many of you if we met in person...
Nov 28 19:03:38 *	jurov is sad
Nov 28 19:05:31 <Doffx>	No hearing devices that can help you?
Nov 28 19:05:55 <dub>	seems like an asshole tbh
Nov 28 19:06:05 <jurov>	i have 500 euro hearing aids on each ear, they help immensely
Nov 28 19:06:17 <dub>	lots of noise, not much signal
Nov 28 19:06:39 <jurov>	but my hearing is like mistuned radio... can't improve much
Nov 28 19:06:43 <Doffx>	Not sure what to say about that, make him type everything he says in IRC
Nov 28 19:06:49 <Doffx>	I know ive seen him in here before.
Nov 28 19:07:01 <Doffx>	dub you think that about everyone though.
Nov 28 19:07:19 <dub>	not really
Nov 28 19:07:32 <Doffx>	I dont have an opinion on him, never talked to him.
Nov 28 19:08:25 <jurov>	i doubt you actually went into such inconvenience as to typing everything you say on the workshop, either
Nov 28 19:08:47 <Doffx>	Hehe I was kidding :)
Nov 28 19:08:56 <dub>	theres footage from other 'workshops' on you tube
Nov 28 19:08:57 <jurov>	still, they said something about translation to slovak, but i don't hold my breath
Nov 28 19:09:00 <Doffx>	It just came out wrong
Nov 28 19:09:28 <jurov>	i can't youtube. the generated scaptioning israrely useful.
Nov 28 19:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00053035 = 3.739 BTC [+]
Nov 28 19:09:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053216 = 1.2479 BTC [+]
Nov 28 19:09:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20421 @ 0.00053249 = 10.874 BTC [+]
Nov 28 19:10:00 <dub>	its not worth looking at anyway
Nov 28 19:10:15 <dub>	'bitcoins R REALLY COOL SO PROGRAM ANS STUFF K LOLZ"
Nov 28 19:11:18 <jurov>	dub, so you actually have watched them and found lacking?
Nov 28 19:11:46 <dub>	I think he is approx as useful to bitcoin as MNW
Nov 28 19:12:00 <dub>	he makes us all look stupid for tolerating him
Nov 28 19:13:14 <jurov>	haha. at least i'll feel better when i don't go
Nov 28 19:13:23 <Doffx>	Are there no devices for the your hearing that allow you to hear better from your pC?
Nov 28 19:13:38 <Doffx>	I'm just asking because I dont know and it would seem like a useful product.
Nov 28 19:13:43 <jurov>	using my pc?
Nov 28 19:14:16 <Doffx>	Well you said the caption feature as useless so I asumed you turned it on because you had a hard time hearing the videos
Nov 28 19:14:37 <jurov>	yes i do
Nov 28 19:15:11 <jurov>	but it's hard guessing what was actually said sometimes
Nov 28 19:15:48 <jurov>	and as for using PC i tried to set up jackd + equalizer/compressor for each ear extra, but it still wasn't as good as hearing aid... and the sound was stuttering
Nov 28 19:15:51 <Doffx>	Hmm, yeah doesent sound fun trying to guess something your already trying to learn.
Nov 28 19:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053239 = 1.2485 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1179 @ 0.00053249 = 0.6278 BTC [+]
Nov 28 19:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2278 @ 0.00053261 = 1.2133 BTC [+]
Nov 28 19:16:27 <jurov>	when i researched why, I was horrified to learn whole jack setup used 10GB of my 12G RAM
Nov 28 19:16:51 <Doffx>	Thats odd.
Nov 28 19:17:48 <jurov>	decided that fixing jackd is not worth the effort
Nov 28 19:18:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052732 = 1.2366 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1595 @ 0.00052702 = 0.8406 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7558 @ 0.00052462 = 3.9651 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.00052426 = 1.9812 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:18:51 <Doffx>	Looks like there are headsets for hearing impaired as well, how do those work?
Nov 28 19:19:15 <Doffx>	I'm sure you have tried all of these things, I just found it interesting since I take it for granted.
Nov 28 19:20:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052434 = 1.2296 BTC [+]
Nov 28 19:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6006 @ 0.00052426 = 3.1487 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14878 @ 0.00052391 = 7.7947 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:20:32 <jurov>	headsets (these are advertised for watching TV) usually have flat frequency reponse, so are useful mostly to people with equal hearing loss for all frequencies
Nov 28 19:20:54 <Diablo-D3>	>headset
Nov 28 19:20:57 <Diablo-D3>	>flat frequency
Nov 28 19:20:57 <jurov>	but i have it all over the place between 40 and 90 dB
Nov 28 19:20:59 <Diablo-D3>	LAWL
Nov 28 19:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7872 @ 0.00052391 = 4.1242 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:21:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9584 @ 0.00052225 = 5.0052 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4688 @ 0.00052218 = 2.448 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:21:44 <kakobreklaaa>	um, i would need to send an sms to umerrica mobile phone
Nov 28 19:21:55 <kakobreklaaa>	is there a service that can do that
Nov 28 19:22:02 <kakobreklaaa>	i dont need bulk 10k sms
Nov 28 19:22:09 <Diablo-D3>	yes... another cell phone.
Nov 28 19:22:44 <jurov>	http://www.google.com/mobile/sms/voice/
Nov 28 19:23:17 <kakobreklaaa>	hmm
Nov 28 19:23:20 <kakobreklaaa>	interesting
Nov 28 19:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7494 @ 0.00052218 = 3.9132 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3942 @ 0.0005217 = 2.0565 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14915 @ 0.00052152 = 7.7785 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:24:18 <kakobreklaaa>	hm
Nov 28 19:24:38 <kakobreklaaa>	this doesnt allow me to send from here if i understand it correctly
Nov 28 19:27:42 <Doffx>	Interesting, see I learned something.
Nov 28 19:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00052223 = 5.849 BTC [+]
Nov 28 19:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00052235 = 1.6715 BTC [+]
Nov 28 19:39:00 <dub>	dont live in terrst countries den
Nov 28 19:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00053169 = 4.8384 BTC [+]
Nov 28 19:39:21 <dub>	got damn terrsts
Nov 28 19:41:31 <jurov>	let's put dub on homeland security radar: terrorist bomb assassination obama
Nov 28 19:41:45 <jurov>	explosives
Nov 28 19:41:53 <dub>	my irc client has that built in
Nov 28 19:42:12 <dub>	-feds
Nov 28 19:42:17 <dub>	hrm
Nov 28 19:42:19 <jurov>	what? you have homeland security plugin?
Nov 28 19:43:03 *	dub rtfms
Nov 28 19:43:38 <Diablo-D3>	a terrorst manual?
Nov 28 19:45:20 <dub>	domestic disruption Libya White House wire transfer radar FBI
Nov 28 19:45:25 <dub>	there we go
Nov 28 19:45:28 <dub>	HALO Glock 26 smuggle Diebold Lebed Fallujah
Nov 28 19:45:31 <dub>	Bush Waco wire transfer FSF Defense Information Warfare Terrorism
Nov 28 19:45:34 <dub>	DES Grass Roots 9-11 Al Amn al-Askari Saddam Hussein Ortega
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Nov 28 19:46:02 <jurov>	milk
Nov 28 19:46:25 <dub>	Liberals PLO Saddam Hussein SEAL Team 6 Ft. Bragg Mossad 
Nov 28 19:46:50 <dub>	Serbian Al Qaeda Verisign $400 million in gold bullion colonel Ft. Meade 
Nov 28 19:47:03 <dub>	thats to call teh gay spooks
Nov 28 19:47:34 <dub>	note: Gladamas_' timing
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Nov 28 19:51:27 <dub>	gay matrix mode
Nov 28 19:51:29 <dub>	I  a  S  t  p  T  i  r  S  K  N  K  j  
Nov 28 19:51:32 <dub>	n  t  e  y  u  e  s  o  t  n  o  o  i  
Nov 28 19:51:35 <dub>	f  i  c     t  r  m  p  e  i  r  r  h  
Nov 28 19:51:38 <dub>	o  o  u  C  e  r     o  a  f  t  e  a  
Nov 28 19:51:41 <dub>	r  n  r  o  r  o  E  l  k  e  h  a  d  
Nov 28 19:51:44 <dub>	m     i  m     r  u                    
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Nov 28 19:52:09 <jurov>	lol
Nov 28 19:53:24 <jurov>	goodnight folks
Nov 28 19:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052299 = 1.2264 BTC [-]
Nov 28 19:56:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 355 @ 0.00052329 = 0.1858 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 19:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> I think he is approx as useful to bitcoin as MNW << i second
Nov 28 20:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052177 = 1.2236 BTC [-]
Nov 28 20:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26955 @ 0.00052152 = 14.0576 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 20:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00052152 = 6.7276 BTC [-]
Nov 28 20:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00052122 = 0.8079 BTC [-]
Nov 28 20:18:35 <kakobreklaaa>	hmm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128289.0
Nov 28 20:19:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4514 @ 0.00052122 = 2.3528 BTC [-]
Nov 28 20:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14736 @ 0.00052119 = 7.6803 BTC [-]
Nov 28 20:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16864 @ 0.00052119 = 8.7893 BTC [-]
Nov 28 20:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16836 @ 0.00052105 = 8.7724 BTC [-]
Nov 28 20:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052147 = 1.2228 BTC [+]
Nov 28 20:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5673 @ 0.0005215 = 2.9585 BTC [+]
Nov 28 20:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00052116 = 3.6481 BTC [-]
Nov 28 20:44:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00052116 = 10.6838 BTC [-]
Nov 28 20:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.0005215 = 1.8253 BTC [+]
Nov 28 20:49:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052142 = 1.2227 BTC [-]
Nov 28 20:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1622 @ 0.0005215 = 0.8459 BTC [+]
Nov 28 20:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00052257 = 13.43 BTC [+]
Nov 28 20:49:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 633 @ 0.00052329 = 0.3312 BTC [+]
Nov 28 20:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168 @ 0.00052329 = 0.0879 BTC [+]
Nov 28 20:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3982 @ 0.00052498 = 2.0905 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 21:07:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052127 = 1.2224 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9055 @ 0.00052105 = 4.7181 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052139 = 1.2227 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2559 @ 0.00052105 = 1.3334 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8062 @ 0.00052083 = 4.1989 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00052009 = 4.4208 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12044 @ 0.00051993 = 6.262 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00051982 = 0.4678 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:08:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00051937 = 9.2967 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6490 @ 0.00051935 = 3.3706 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 21:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052465 = 1.2303 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8755 @ 0.00052498 = 4.5962 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:17:08 <smickles>	oh yeah, my sig is the biggest http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-mpex-rota/
Nov 28 21:17:57 <smickles>	kakobreklaaa: you're still on sha1?
Nov 28 21:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052487 = 1.2308 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13612 @ 0.00052498 = 7.146 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:19:14 <kakobreklaaa>	i live a dangerous life
Nov 28 21:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	hehe this is going nice, already 3 ppl.
Nov 28 21:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	which is technically enough to have a trial.
Nov 28 21:20:25 <pigeons>	Namjies: you should sue mircea_popescu for not redeeming or whatever your gigamining shares ;)
Nov 28 21:20:47 <pigeons>	except he's paying the judges i hear
Nov 28 21:20:54 <mircea_popescu>	no i'm not
Nov 28 21:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	well... mpex is, but that's besides the point
Nov 28 21:22:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051949 = 1.2182 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4360 @ 0.00051935 = 2.2644 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.0005187 = 2.3342 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:22:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95 @ 0.00051842 = 0.0492 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:22:32 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i suspekt he's gonna sue me anyway for the asicminer deal. that's actually an interesting thing anyway
Nov 28 21:23:16 <pigeons>	what's that about?
Nov 28 21:23:26 <smickles>	oh my, that's a interesting one
Nov 28 21:23:40 <knotwork>	GFC is trying to figure out details for a structured credit default swap in which they will loan 10,000 DVC each to 10,000 people, in four or five tranches. The tranches are to be of four or five different levels of collateral, with 100% being the level that maybe need not be a tracnch, naybe its best to keep the 100%-collateral people to themselves instead of putting them in the structured thing
Nov 28 21:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons well i can't talk about it if im getting sued
Nov 28 21:24:00 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: can i tell him :)
Nov 28 21:24:05 <smickles>	aw
Nov 28 21:24:12 <mircea_popescu>	polimedia.us/bitcoin/mphf.txt
Nov 28 21:24:14 <pigeons>	smickles: where  are you gonna find 10,000 people?
Nov 28 21:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	there, contract
Nov 28 21:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	sure you can smickles
Nov 28 21:24:18 <smickles>	i could present a work of fiction
Nov 28 21:24:22 <pigeons>	sorry i meant knotwork
Nov 28 21:24:30 <smickles>	pigeons: mircea_popescu shorted asicminer, borrowing from Namjies then glbse tanked.
Nov 28 21:24:58 <pigeons>	i heard asicminer had accounting of large shareholders outside of the glbse system?
Nov 28 21:25:08 <smickles>	this was thru glbse
Nov 28 21:25:35 <pigeons>	has asicminer been given a list from the good doctor nefario yet?
Nov 28 21:25:37 <knotwork>	pigeons GRouPcorp is group-oriented, lots of groups not all being small groups adds up to a lot of people, this intial 10,000 is just the first batch, to test out the sructured vehicle idea
Nov 28 21:25:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052491 = 1.2309 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons don't prejudge or else!
Nov 28 21:25:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7884 @ 0.00052498 = 4.1389 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23371 @ 0.00053176 = 12.4278 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 5000 @ 0.00289998 = 14.4999 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:25:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.00289999 = 2.9 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 42654 @ 0.0029 = 123.6966 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:26:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 2168 @ 0.00299414 = 6.4913 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:26:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1500 @ 0.00300004 = 4.5001 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 2500 @ 0.00310004 = 7.7501 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 4626 @ 0.0032 = 14.8032 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:26:04 <toffoo>	pigeons: I think they have received the partial list
Nov 28 21:26:09 <pigeons>	ok i dont want to hear it then ;)
Nov 28 21:26:14 <pigeons>	lalala
Nov 28 21:26:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 28 21:26:28 <smickles>	ha
Nov 28 21:26:32 *	mircea_popescu gagorders everyone
Nov 28 21:26:47 *	smickles zips lips
Nov 28 21:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135336393763.jpg
Nov 28 21:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	whoa bvps sold
Nov 28 21:27:27 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: sold?
Nov 28 21:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	yeah ?
Nov 28 21:27:53 <smickles>	under the news of a possible buyout or screw-off
Nov 28 21:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 42654 @ 0.0029 = 123.6966 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:28:18 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.bvps
Nov 28 21:28:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.00289998 / 0.00293771 / 0.0032 (59448 shares, 174.64 BTC), 30day: 0.002 / 0.00265776 / 0.0032 (92264 shares, 245.22 BTC)
Nov 28 21:28:20 <pigeons>	grubles: wake up
Nov 28 21:28:23 <knotwork>	they could do a smaller test first i suppose, start with the first 1000 people on the waiting list and loan them each 100,000 dvc and see how it goes
Nov 28 21:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	like 2/3 of its volume today lol
Nov 28 21:28:31 <Namjies>	ah, in prevision of the dividend arriving soon I presume
Nov 28 21:28:47 <Namjies>	2/3 of the volume?
Nov 28 21:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 174.64 / 245.22
Nov 28 21:29:10 <gribble>	0.712176820814
Nov 28 21:29:22 <pigeons>	rg_:
Nov 28 21:29:35 <knotwork>	pigeons also in reality its best not to think of them as people, since really they are basically just pseudonymous identities
Nov 28 21:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051868 = 1.2163 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14240 @ 0.00051842 = 7.3823 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:29:57 <knotwork>	brokers can perfectly well generate a bunch of identities themselves to include in
Nov 28 21:30:03 <pigeons>	knotwork: how many players in galactic milieu?
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Nov 28 21:30:54 <knotwork>	pigeons if you count this lot I have no idea, there is no way of knowing the average ratio of actual live humans to sock puppet pseudonyms
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Nov 28 21:31:08 <pigeons>	how many including sock puppets
Nov 28 21:31:26 <knotwork>	well 10,000 lines up wanting loans, for starters.
Nov 28 21:31:56 <knotwork>	there are hundreds of people in various subgames that have maybe never played since they signed up too, wanna count idlers too?
Nov 28 21:32:25 <smickles>	i'm one of those :)
Nov 28 21:32:31 <pigeons>	alright, i get it, somewhere between a little and a lot
Nov 28 21:32:47 <knotwork>	oh well who counts smickles? hahahaha ;)
Nov 28 21:32:54 <smickles>	:o
Nov 28 21:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	count smickles my dear earl.
Nov 28 21:33:00 <smickles>	hehe
Nov 28 21:33:18 <knotwork>	ok well how many thousands is he alone then? :)
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Nov 28 21:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	i see you've all attracted ciuciu
Nov 28 21:34:43 <knotwork>	part of the function of this structured thing is to try to come up with vehicles that do not care whether their counterparties are one human a billion humans one corp or hundreds of corps etc
Nov 28 21:35:15 <smickles>	I can't help attracting ciuciu, that character is like jeph jaques' squirrel with a massive boner
Nov 28 21:35:32 <smickles>	but not as entertaining
Nov 28 21:35:33 <knotwork>	though I suppose pretending to structure one person into several tranches is maybe a little pointless
Nov 28 21:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;google jeph jaques' squirrel
Nov 28 21:35:53 <gribble>	Questionable Content - Television Tropes & Idioms: <http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/QuestionableContent>; Archive - Questionable Content: New comics every Monday through ...: <http://questionablecontent.net/archive.php>; Dayuse @ Paradise Toronto Comicon - Part II - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p4RG5qwF6I>
Nov 28 21:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	fuck me. not tvtropes.
Nov 28 21:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	NOOOOOooooooo.......
Nov 28 21:36:31 <smickles>	I had no idea there was a tvtropes on QC
Nov 28 21:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	A Catholic annulment is analogous to a finding that a contract of sale is invalid
Nov 28 21:37:56 <mircea_popescu>	ok, this works.
Nov 28 21:40:41 <smickles>	gwaa, it would help if i could at least remember which art style phase the squirrel first appeared in
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Nov 28 21:44:02 <smickles>	lol http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=874
Nov 28 21:46:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052278 = 1.2259 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:46:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16855 @ 0.00052256 = 8.8077 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:49:45 <knotwork>	even if we never know whether all the people one broker represents really exist or are just sockpuppets of the broker the brokers can gain useful info from this about their customers even if they keep everyone else in the dark about whether those customers actually exist at all
Nov 28 21:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00334633 = 4.3502 BTC [-]
Nov 28 21:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3982 @ 0.003347 = 13.3278 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00336737 = 7.745 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:50:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3400 @ 0.00337549 = 11.4767 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9018 @ 0.00338808 = 30.5537 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:51:13 <knotwork>	also if all the customers of a broker default that is useful info to know about that broker
Nov 28 21:51:37 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i'm not going to look for it anymore, the squirrel is in like 3 out of 2330 strips
Nov 28 21:51:40 <smickles>	:P
Nov 28 21:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Nov 28 21:52:11 <kakobreklaaa>	hmm
Nov 28 21:52:11 <kakobreklaaa>	https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rippleusers/IVin3Qwrp7k
Nov 28 21:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 464 @ 0.00338808 = 1.5721 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:54:24 <knotwork>	future access to various tranches of future runs of the concept could also be contingent on the performance of a broker's customers in previous runs
Nov 28 21:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052607 = 1.2336 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2305 @ 0.00052622 = 1.2129 BTC [+]
Nov 28 21:54:58 <knotwork>	thus some brokers might eat some losses themselves rather than be perceived as a broker who caters to deadbeats
Nov 28 21:56:49 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh nvm, he's on with him http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1901
Nov 28 21:57:02 <pigeons>	kakobreklaaa: Their system is based on a Bitcoin-style blockchain, much as we have
Nov 28 21:57:06 <pigeons>	discussed here over the last few years as an interesting possibility,
Nov 28 21:57:08 <pigeons>	but with a novel miner-less consensus mechanism that allows
Nov 28 21:57:10 <pigeons>	transactions to be confirmed nearly instantaneously.
Nov 28 21:57:12 <pigeons>	pastefail
Nov 28 21:57:15 <knotwork>	or in order to qualify to move up from devcoin based vehicles to litecoin so as to eventually advance to even higher coins
Nov 28 21:57:52 <kakobreklaaa>	hm
Nov 28 21:57:56 <kakobreklaaa>	so how do you print it
Nov 28 21:58:21 *	mircea_popescu contributes to the babilony : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135415783450.jpg
Nov 28 21:59:56 <dub>	hey thats YELLINGBIRD
Nov 28 22:00:43 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu She looks very similar to my ex
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Nov 28 22:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	apparently his ex didn't like that comment.
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Nov 28 22:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052288 = 1.2262 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4490 @ 0.00052256 = 2.3463 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13355 @ 0.00052256 = 6.9788 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20973 @ 0.00052152 = 10.9378 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8472 @ 0.00051855 = 4.3932 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:05:04 <smickles>	maybe it's a cat
Nov 28 22:05:06 <smickles>	i dunno
Nov 28 22:05:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol i don't really care about cartoons, dun sweat it
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Nov 28 22:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052616 = 1.2338 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11145 @ 0.00052622 = 5.8647 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4867 @ 0.00052872 = 2.5733 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1093 @ 0.00053176 = 0.5812 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:21:11 <kakobreklaaa>	;;bc,stats
Nov 28 22:21:14 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 210085 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 1594 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 3 hours, 31 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3776113.86628476 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.80557816541
Nov 28 22:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1298 @ 0.00334406 = 4.3406 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:31:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3811 @ 0.00334635 = 12.7529 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00336242 = 3.3624 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 291 @ 0.00339999 = 0.9894 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:33:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 28 22:33:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.26503, Best ask: 12.36650, Bid-ask spread: 0.10147, Last trade: 12.26402, 24 hour volume: 26466.34567538, 24 hour low: 12.17100, 24 hour high: 12.40712, 24 hour vwap: 12.29692
Nov 28 22:33:24 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Nov 28 22:33:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00332186 / 0.00335463 / 0.00339999 (47804 shares, 160.37 BTC), 30day: 0.00180002 / 0.00332535 / 0.0034 (1081283 shares, 3,595.65 BTC)
Nov 28 22:35:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.43032464 = 430.3246 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:35:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005315 = 1.2464 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5636 @ 0.00053176 = 2.997 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053183 = 0.5318 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2969 @ 0.00053184 = 1.579 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:38:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.34851387 = 348.5139 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052675 = 1.2352 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5205 @ 0.00052654 = 2.7406 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.00333334 = 166.667 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:39:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3550 @ 0.00333263 = 11.8308 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00332583 = 3.6584 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5544 @ 0.00332186 = 18.4164 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:40:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1785 @ 0.00331717 = 5.9211 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:40:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4200 @ 0.0033154 = 13.9247 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:40:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3394 @ 0.00331508 = 11.2514 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:41:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.34851387 = 348.5139 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Nov 28 22:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00331508 / 0.00333996 / 0.00339999 (117377 shares, 392.03 BTC), 30day: 0.00180002 / 0.00332562 / 0.0034 (1150856 shares, 3,827.32 BTC)
Nov 28 22:42:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.43032464 = 430.3246 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	volumetric day lol
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Nov 28 22:44:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1 @ 0.38778304 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:44:58 <Namjies>	yup, end of the month, dividends coming in. People go around shopping.
Nov 28 22:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Nov 28 22:47:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053183 = 1.2471 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7170 @ 0.00053184 = 3.8133 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:47:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15648 @ 0.00053191 = 8.3233 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:47:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17280 @ 0.00053261 = 9.2035 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11688 @ 0.00053537 = 6.2574 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:47:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00053537 = 7.629 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:47:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14738 @ 0.00053542 = 7.891 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2495 @ 0.00053546 = 1.336 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00053552 = 8.7825 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00053567 = 0.9106 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053573 = 0.5357 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00053574 = 9.2951 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18790 @ 0.00053589 = 10.0694 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00053607 = 13.7234 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00053608 = 3.7526 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00053611 = 11.1511 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19507 @ 0.00053618 = 10.4593 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00053618 = 5.469 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00053634 = 19.5228 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00053663 = 12.8791 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21760 @ 0.00053673 = 11.6792 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12128 @ 0.00053675 = 6.5097 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.0005368 = 10.736 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9788 @ 0.00053682 = 5.2544 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053696 = 0.537 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00053697 = 9.8802 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00053715 = 5.8549 BTC [+]
Nov 28 22:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21663 @ 0.00053718 = 11.6369 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 22:56:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.17734109 = 177.3411 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.09182915 = 91.8292 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1000 @ 0.05496801 = 54.968 BTC [-]
Nov 28 22:57:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 1000 @ 0.05496801 = 54.968 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:01:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052808 = 1.2383 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13905 @ 0.00052782 = 7.3393 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 23:02:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 1000 @ 0.050857 = 50.857 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1000 @ 0.050857 = 50.857 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 23:11:41 <dub>	time to meet a man about a mortgage
Nov 28 23:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100N] 1000 @ 0.23392633 = 233.9263 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110N] 800 @ 0.19838339 = 158.7067 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:12:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120N] 600 @ 0.16784624 = 100.7077 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130N] 400 @ 0.12905362 = 51.6214 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140N] 200 @ 0.09478752 = 18.9575 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053714 = 1.2596 BTC [+]
Nov 28 23:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053717 = 0.5372 BTC [+]
Nov 28 23:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052803 = 1.2382 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5255 @ 0.00052782 = 2.7737 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 23:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5840 @ 0.00052782 = 3.0825 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12697 @ 0.00052654 = 6.6855 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00052773 = 4.3274 BTC [+]
Nov 28 23:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053676 = 1.2587 BTC [+]
Nov 28 23:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12955 @ 0.0005369 = 6.9555 BTC [+]
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Nov 28 23:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00333118 = 11.6591 BTC [+]
Nov 28 23:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052686 = 1.2355 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:50:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1296 @ 0.00052654 = 0.6824 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5009 @ 0.00052307 = 2.6201 BTC [-]
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Nov 28 23:53:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6891 @ 0.00052307 = 3.6045 BTC [-]
Nov 28 23:53:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7223 @ 0.00051855 = 3.7455 BTC [-]
Nov 29 00:09:05 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: hey! in here.
Nov 29 00:09:23 <Diablo-D3>	okay so
Nov 29 00:09:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00052192 = 8.0637 BTC [+]
Nov 29 00:09:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15932 @ 0.00052264 = 8.3267 BTC [+]
Nov 29 00:09:36 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: its basically this
Nov 29 00:09:43 <Diablo-D3>	NGE was the first new thing in years
Nov 29 00:09:48 <Diablo-D3>	it may be the LAST new thing. ever.
Nov 29 00:10:05 <midnightmagic>	huh?  did it come out before or after the more recent ghost in the shell?
Nov 29 00:10:26 <Diablo-D3>	before.
Nov 29 00:10:31 <Diablo-D3>	GITS is good, but its not _new_.
Nov 29 00:10:35 <midnightmagic>	GIS seemed pretty new to me, but then, like I freely implied over there, I am not broadly-anime-versed..
Nov 29 00:10:45 <Diablo-D3>	and it depends which gits you mean
Nov 29 00:10:54 <Diablo-D3>	the movies are extremely well executed old ideas.
Nov 29 00:10:59 <midnightmagic>	second gig, solid state society, tachikoma days, etc.
Nov 29 00:11:04 <Diablo-D3>	the series is extremely well executed other old ideas
Nov 29 00:11:24 <Diablo-D3>	delicious major, om nom nom
Nov 29 00:11:52 <Diablo-D3>	NGE was the first series that made every character represent actual psychological damage
Nov 29 00:11:52 <midnightmagic>	stand-alone complex..
Nov 29 00:12:05 <midnightmagic>	that's a pretty old idea too, outside of anime..?
Nov 29 00:12:12 <Diablo-D3>	outside of anime yes
Nov 29 00:12:15 <Diablo-D3>	in anime? no
Nov 29 00:12:36 <Diablo-D3>	and then he wrapped all this psychology 101 into fake christianity
Nov 29 00:12:37 <midnightmagic>	ah, yes, you're talking about formulaic anime.
Nov 29 00:12:47 <midnightmagic>	i hate formulaic anime, it drives me fucking nuts.
Nov 29 00:12:52 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: depends which one
Nov 29 00:13:00 <Diablo-D3>	there are some that deconstruct it very well
Nov 29 00:13:14 <midnightmagic>	I'm trying to watch the Wolverine anime, i feel like clawing my eyes out for what they did to Logan.
Nov 29 00:13:36 <Diablo-D3>	meh, not watching any of the dc or marvel cartoons
Nov 29 00:13:41 <Diablo-D3>	nothx
Nov 29 00:13:57 <midnightmagic>	you know those cartoons where pluto is running at the wall and then tries to run up the wall, but just claws off the pain, then wallpaper, then subwall, then frame of the house?
Nov 29 00:14:16 <Diablo-D3>	yeah?
Nov 29 00:14:20 <midnightmagic>	that's like my brain feels, cognitive dissonance mixed with revulsion, mixed with a completionist curse.
Nov 29 00:14:29 <Diablo-D3>	ahh.
Nov 29 00:14:38 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow, so I was saying
Nov 29 00:14:41 <midnightmagic>	right
Nov 29 00:14:43 <Diablo-D3>	NGE isnt that good if you dont understand it
Nov 29 00:14:50 <Diablo-D3>	the action is maybe 7 or 8/10
Nov 29 00:15:04 <Diablo-D3>	the plot exists to just completely fuck itself over
Nov 29 00:15:14 <Diablo-D3>	you cant go 5 steps without tripping over some asshole
Nov 29 00:15:36 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, the plot is two different groups of assholes trying to fuck each other in the ass while trying to save the world
Nov 29 00:15:54 <Diablo-D3>	and not in a good way
Nov 29 00:16:09 <Diablo-D3>	this is like the USA and Russia fighting over Libya while Libya burns
Nov 29 00:16:18 <Diablo-D3>	thats how fucked up it is
Nov 29 00:16:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00335153 = 1.173 BTC [+]
Nov 29 00:16:53 <midnightmagic>	wtf is all this activity on mpex?
Nov 29 00:17:21 <Diablo-D3>	there isnt much
Nov 29 00:17:30 <Diablo-D3>	it looks weird because we're not being spammed to death by glbse anymore
Nov 29 00:17:55 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: so as I was saying
Nov 29 00:18:00 <Diablo-D3>	there have been a LOT of post-eva shows
Nov 29 00:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15468 @ 0.00052264 = 8.0842 BTC [+]
Nov 29 00:18:15 <midnightmagic>	done by other people and so on?
Nov 29 00:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2732 @ 0.00052777 = 1.4419 BTC [+]
Nov 29 00:18:22 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Nov 29 00:18:29 <Diablo-D3>	and you can clearly see the influence
Nov 29 00:18:45 <Diablo-D3>	in anime culture, you have to have seen eva and understand it completely to actually understand all anime that follows
Nov 29 00:18:51 <midnightmagic>	it's really irritating to me to see the story be a vehicle for the anime, rather than the anime be the vehicle for the story.
Nov 29 00:19:13 <Diablo-D3>	depends on the show
Nov 29 00:19:16 <midnightmagic>	that's why I liked GIS so much.
Nov 29 00:19:21 <Diablo-D3>	some animes are clearly "fuck the plot, lets blow shit up"
Nov 29 00:19:25 <Diablo-D3>	and they turn out well
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Nov 29 00:19:27 <Diablo-D3>	because shit blows up
Nov 29 00:19:29 <Diablo-D3>	everywhere
Nov 29 00:19:30 <Diablo-D3>	forever
Nov 29 00:19:59 <midnightmagic>	or the endless powerup b-s and the floating into the air to prepare an attack, god, so overdone, how can anyone watch that crap
Nov 29 00:20:00 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: GITS:SAC worked so well because the plot was rather deep and complex
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Nov 29 00:20:13 <midnightmagic>	yes, exactly!
Nov 29 00:20:28 <midnightmagic>	and the flavour of the characters was tasty and delicious.
Nov 29 00:21:03 <Diablo-D3>	I consider gits:sac one of the best animes ever
Nov 29 00:21:13 <Diablo-D3>	I also consider nge one of the best animes ever
Nov 29 00:21:18 <midnightmagic>	hrm..
Nov 29 00:21:43 <midnightmagic>	so, give me a narrow specific example of something that surprised you when you finally discovered what it was?
Nov 29 00:21:55 <Diablo-D3>	cant.
Nov 29 00:22:02 <Diablo-D3>	anything specific I can say about nge is a spoiler.
Nov 29 00:22:04 <pigeons>	I liked Serial Experiments: Lain
Nov 29 00:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12183 @ 0.00051855 = 6.3175 BTC [-]
Nov 29 00:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1353 @ 0.00051842 = 0.7014 BTC [-]
Nov 29 00:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7264 @ 0.00051836 = 3.7654 BTC [-]
Nov 29 00:22:21 <Diablo-D3>	lain is a post nge anime and it shows
Nov 29 00:22:32 <Diablo-D3>	its a pissing contest anime trying to out brainfuck nge
Nov 29 00:22:37 <pigeons>	heh
Nov 29 00:22:47 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Spoilers don't really bother me. They're like edge pieces of a puzzle for me.
Nov 29 00:22:51 <Diablo-D3>	not saying its a bad anime, Ive watched it like twice
Nov 29 00:23:05 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: nge is very well constructed.
Nov 29 00:23:09 <Diablo-D3>	I cant spoil it.
Nov 29 00:23:13 <midnightmagic>	:-/
Nov 29 00:23:44 <midnightmagic>	I also have a great ability these days to forget stuff people tell me, fwiw.
Nov 29 00:24:24 <midnightmagic>	I'm a much happier human since I started being able to do that. I'm pretty sure it's because work broke my memory. If I did remember everything I'm pretty sure I'd be buying lots of guns right now.
Nov 29 00:24:54 <midnightmagic>	^^ a joke, fuck you leo
Nov 29 00:26:49 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: btw, go find a copy of renewal of evangelion
Nov 29 00:27:05 <Diablo-D3>	I think its called the platinum edition in the US
Nov 29 00:28:24 <Diablo-D3>	watch the first 20 episdoes, then the last 6 as the directors cut (renewal contains both the directors cut and the original of the last 6)
Nov 29 00:28:32 <Diablo-D3>	and then go watch end of evangelion immediately after
Nov 29 00:30:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14339 @ 0.00051836 = 7.4328 BTC [-]
Nov 29 00:30:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00051811 = 4.2744 BTC [-]
Nov 29 00:30:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2991 @ 0.00051801 = 1.5494 BTC [-]
Nov 29 00:30:46 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: and then immediately start watching the entire thing right after eoe
Nov 29 00:31:51 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: oh, and dont bother watching death and rebirth, they've been folded into the directors cut in renewal/platinum
Nov 29 00:32:14 <Ukto>	besides
Nov 29 00:32:16 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3 is already spoiled
Nov 29 00:32:17 <Ukto>	:P
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Nov 29 00:32:40 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: heh
Nov 29 00:32:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00052537 = 2.7845 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 00:33:50 <Ukto>	oh look, its psycho boy
Nov 29 00:34:29 <midnightmagic>	hrm..
Nov 29 00:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00052537 = 4.7809 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 00:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052776 = 1.2376 BTC [+]
Nov 29 00:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14668 @ 0.00052777 = 7.7413 BTC [+]
Nov 29 00:39:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00052849 = 3.6466 BTC [+]
Nov 29 00:39:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30855 @ 0.00053306 = 16.4476 BTC [+]
Nov 29 00:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 391 @ 0.0005369 = 0.2099 BTC [+]
Nov 29 00:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.0005325 = 11.8748 BTC [-]
Nov 29 01:04:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052681 = 1.2354 BTC [-]
Nov 29 01:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00052677 = 6.2686 BTC [-]
Nov 29 01:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1520 @ 0.00051937 = 0.7894 BTC [-]
Nov 29 01:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10872 @ 0.00053102 = 5.7732 BTC [+]
Nov 29 01:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 908 @ 0.0005325 = 0.4835 BTC [+]
Nov 29 01:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4009 @ 0.00051801 = 2.0767 BTC [-]
Nov 29 01:17:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8649 @ 0.00051754 = 4.4762 BTC [-]
Nov 29 01:27:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053238 = 1.2484 BTC [+]
Nov 29 01:27:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4807 @ 0.0005325 = 2.5597 BTC [+]
Nov 29 01:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13448 @ 0.00053285 = 7.1658 BTC [+]
Nov 29 01:30:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052122 = 1.2223 BTC [-]
Nov 29 01:30:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 305 @ 0.0005211 = 0.1589 BTC [-]
Nov 29 01:31:12 *	midnightmagic tries to convince someone who appears to be an idiot not to buy a 50mW laser for her strongly oppositionally-defiant, diagnosed ADHD, medicated 7-yr-old son.
Nov 29 01:31:39 <dub>	lol
Nov 29 01:32:02 <dub>	I played with a green one, can pop baloons and set paper on fire
Nov 29 01:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053268 = 1.2491 BTC [+]
Nov 29 01:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9135 @ 0.00053285 = 4.8676 BTC [+]
Nov 29 01:32:39 <midnightmagic>	There's also a $100,000 fine, or 5 years in prison for shining it onto an airplane in Canada.
Nov 29 01:34:04 <midnightmagic>	oh and the whole "uncontrolled home environment i.e. not a lab with random reflective surfaces" thing.
Nov 29 01:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052118 = 1.2222 BTC [-]
Nov 29 01:35:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10605 @ 0.0005211 = 5.5263 BTC [-]
Nov 29 01:36:11 <Namjies>	Let dumb people hurt themselves and reduce their risk of spreading further into the gene pool...
Nov 29 01:36:20 <Namjies>	But that would be mean so... don't do that.
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Nov 29 01:39:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00335153 = 6.3679 BTC [+]
Nov 29 01:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00339602 = 0.1698 BTC [+]
Nov 29 01:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052299 = 1.2264 BTC [+]
Nov 29 01:59:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00052318 = 6.3043 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 02:02:10 <midnightmagic>	Her son is 7, and he appears to be smarter than she is. Smart people come from dumb people all the time.
Nov 29 02:02:17 <midnightmagic>	Well. She says he is anyway.
Nov 29 02:02:46 <midnightmagic>	Namjies: Also, with a laser, dumb people can reach out and blind smart people.. :(
Nov 29 02:17:44 <Namjies>	I wasn't serious, but yeah.
Nov 29 02:18:05 <Namjies>	I'm well aware of that.
Nov 29 02:18:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00052318 = 2.7729 BTC [+]
Nov 29 02:18:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00052347 = 4.6327 BTC [+]
Nov 29 02:27:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00052347 = 15.8088 BTC [+]
Nov 29 02:28:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00052347 = 7.5118 BTC [+]
Nov 29 02:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00052498 = 7.6647 BTC [+]
Nov 29 02:32:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17676 @ 0.00052972 = 9.3633 BTC [+]
Nov 29 02:39:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00052911 = 1.8254 BTC [-]
Nov 29 02:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00052313 = 1.2555 BTC [-]
Nov 29 02:50:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17208 @ 0.00052302 = 9.0001 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 03:14:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 968 @ 0.00052302 = 0.5063 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:14:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12732 @ 0.00052251 = 6.6526 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:18:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7895 @ 0.00052313 = 4.1301 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 03:21:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052253 = 1.2253 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:21:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 412 @ 0.00052251 = 0.2153 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 03:37:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8029 @ 0.0005211 = 4.1839 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00051992 = 5.0952 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4323 @ 0.00051972 = 2.2467 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:37:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3948 @ 0.00051847 = 2.0469 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:37:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38052 @ 0.00051847 = 19.7288 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 748 @ 0.0005177 = 0.3872 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:45:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6398 @ 0.0005177 = 3.3122 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29654 @ 0.0005177 = 15.3519 BTC [-]
Nov 29 03:55:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2196 @ 0.00051754 = 1.1365 BTC [-]
Nov 29 04:00:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00052003 = 5.7983 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 04:05:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17455 @ 0.00051754 = 9.0337 BTC [-]
Nov 29 04:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3845 @ 0.00051722 = 1.9887 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 04:08:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8655 @ 0.00051722 = 4.4765 BTC [-]
Nov 29 04:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4645 @ 0.00051721 = 2.4024 BTC [-]
Nov 29 04:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00052003 = 1.4301 BTC [+]
Nov 29 04:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3873 @ 0.00052132 = 2.0191 BTC [+]
Nov 29 04:15:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13177 @ 0.0005217 = 6.8744 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 04:30:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00052123 = 3.0753 BTC [-]
Nov 29 04:34:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052163 = 1.2232 BTC [+]
Nov 29 04:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 255 @ 0.0005217 = 0.133 BTC [+]
Nov 29 04:38:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35111 @ 0.0005217 = 18.3174 BTC [+]
Nov 29 04:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 689 @ 0.00052313 = 0.3604 BTC [+]
Nov 29 04:42:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052135 = 1.2226 BTC [-]
Nov 29 04:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13055 @ 0.00052123 = 6.8047 BTC [-]
Nov 29 04:48:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7595 @ 0.00052123 = 3.9587 BTC [-]
Nov 29 04:48:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8847 @ 0.00051721 = 4.5758 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 05:06:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24708 @ 0.00051721 = 12.7792 BTC [-]
Nov 29 05:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13506 @ 0.00051706 = 6.9834 BTC [-]
Nov 29 05:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2631 @ 0.00051706 = 1.3604 BTC [-]
Nov 29 05:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28383 @ 0.00051673 = 14.6663 BTC [-]
Nov 29 05:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.0005191 = 7.7865 BTC [+]
Nov 29 05:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00052313 = 0.6801 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 05:30:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052308 = 1.2266 BTC [-]
Nov 29 05:30:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13295 @ 0.00052313 = 6.955 BTC [+]
Nov 29 05:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00052324 = 6.9853 BTC [+]
Nov 29 05:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6310 @ 0.00052495 = 3.3124 BTC [+]
Nov 29 05:42:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00052319 = 6.1475 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 05:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005174 = 1.2133 BTC [-]
Nov 29 05:45:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21755 @ 0.00051733 = 11.2545 BTC [-]
Nov 29 05:45:49 *	usagi (usagi@111-255-147-117.dynamic.hinet.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Nov 29 05:46:08 <usagi>	is bitcoinoz/noagendamarket around?
Nov 29 05:47:14 <usagi>	hehehe
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Nov 29 05:58:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.00335806 = 12.089 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052304 = 1.2265 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:06:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00052319 = 1.0987 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14669 @ 0.00052495 = 7.7005 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1721 @ 0.00052495 = 0.9034 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00052657 = 5.3447 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26861 @ 0.00052727 = 14.163 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3168 @ 0.00052972 = 1.6782 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:14:38 <leotreasure>	http://soundcloud.com/djleo/bitcoin-style
Nov 29 06:17:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15083 @ 0.00052354 = 7.8966 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:17:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4094 @ 0.00052972 = 2.1687 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052012 = 1.2197 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5897 @ 0.00052003 = 3.0666 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052942 = 1.2415 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2325 @ 0.00052972 = 1.2316 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 06:23:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2637 @ 0.00052972 = 1.3969 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14236 @ 0.0005298 = 7.5422 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052014 = 1.2197 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:26:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7403 @ 0.00052003 = 3.8498 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:26:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12327 @ 0.00051913 = 6.3993 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25 @ 0.00051733 = 0.0129 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052948 = 1.2416 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11455 @ 0.0005298 = 6.0689 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 609 @ 0.0005298 = 0.3226 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:42:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4647 @ 0.00053121 = 2.4685 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00053168 = 1.7014 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7994 @ 0.00053285 = 4.2596 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051877 = 1.2165 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22355 @ 0.00051868 = 11.5951 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:48:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053254 = 1.2488 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:48:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4523 @ 0.00053285 = 2.4101 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5832 @ 0.00053425 = 3.1157 BTC [+]
Nov 29 06:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00053425 = 7.0788 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 06:57:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052875 = 1.2399 BTC [-]
Nov 29 06:57:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00052859 = 9.171 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053411 = 1.2525 BTC [+]
Nov 29 07:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7018 @ 0.00053425 = 3.7494 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 07:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9319 @ 0.00053432 = 4.9793 BTC [+]
Nov 29 07:01:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3118 @ 0.00053459 = 1.6669 BTC [+]
Nov 29 07:02:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052866 = 1.2397 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:02:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00052859 = 5.3652 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:04:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.000522 = 7.4385 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:09:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1391 @ 0.00335806 = 4.6711 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:09:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1409 @ 0.0033416 = 4.7083 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:09:40 <jurov>	http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/11/28/1950230/swedish-stock-exchange-hit-by-programming-snafu
Nov 29 07:10:00 <jurov>	lol mircea can claim "but MPEx was first!"
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Nov 29 07:12:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4605 @ 0.000522 = 2.4038 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 07:29:04 <kakobreklaaa>	mornin
Nov 29 07:32:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053062 = 1.2443 BTC [+]
Nov 29 07:32:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3255 @ 0.00053061 = 1.7271 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00053061 = 5.8898 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:36:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17140 @ 0.00053061 = 9.0947 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:37:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00052606 = 4.1296 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:51:11 <EskimoBob>	a mourning to you too a Pan a Kakobreklaaaw aa..
Nov 29 07:51:59 <jurov>	afternoon
Nov 29 07:54:03 <kakobreklaaa>	jurov http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
Nov 29 07:54:05 <kakobreklaaa>	:>
Nov 29 07:55:25 <jurov>	ah so... will use someday it like "eat shit and die (ugt)"
Nov 29 07:55:42 <kakobreklaaa>	eh?
Nov 29 07:56:18 <jurov>	or, more accurately "happy February the 30th (ugt) !"
Nov 29 07:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9033 @ 0.00051868 = 4.6852 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2071 @ 0.0005177 = 1.0722 BTC [-]
Nov 29 07:57:30 <jurov>	never mind, that's just my sick sense of humour
Nov 29 07:59:28 <kakobreklaaa>	;;bc,stats
Nov 29 07:59:30 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 210152 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 1527 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 14 hours, 19 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3806482.47715061 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.6886667036
Nov 29 07:59:35 <kakobreklaaa>	aww cmon.
Nov 29 07:59:50 <jurov>	10% O_o
Nov 29 07:59:59 <kakobreklaaa>	indeed wtf.
Nov 29 08:00:01 <kakobreklaaa>	:)
Nov 29 08:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15329 @ 0.0005177 = 7.9358 BTC [-]
Nov 29 08:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4470 @ 0.00051733 = 2.3125 BTC [-]
Nov 29 08:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2667 @ 0.00051673 = 1.3781 BTC [-]
Nov 29 08:05:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3031 @ 0.00051598 = 1.5639 BTC [-]
Nov 29 08:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00051983 = 3.4829 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 08:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00051983 = 8.4212 BTC [+]
Nov 29 08:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16128 @ 0.00051983 = 8.3838 BTC [+]
Nov 29 08:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4922 @ 0.00052143 = 2.5665 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 08:29:07 <EskimoBob>	kakobreklaaa: "Your ass will be laminated" is the only part that makes sens on this page - ugt that, for now :)
Nov 29 08:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6388 @ 0.00052143 = 3.3309 BTC [+]
Nov 29 08:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24712 @ 0.00052188 = 12.8967 BTC [+]
Nov 29 08:32:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15755 @ 0.000516 = 8.1296 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 08:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16216 @ 0.00052188 = 8.4628 BTC [+]
Nov 29 08:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2322 @ 0.00052188 = 1.2118 BTC [+]
Nov 29 08:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18748 @ 0.00052376 = 9.8195 BTC [+]
Nov 29 08:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1816 @ 0.00339602 = 6.1672 BTC [+]
Nov 29 08:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 134 @ 0.00339999 = 0.4556 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 09:13:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00052329 = 4.9974 BTC [-]
Nov 29 09:22:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 805 @ 0.000516 = 0.4154 BTC [-]
Nov 29 09:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14919 @ 0.00051598 = 7.6979 BTC [-]
Nov 29 09:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 821 @ 0.00051551 = 0.4232 BTC [-]
Nov 29 09:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1934 @ 0.00052152 = 1.0086 BTC [+]
Nov 29 09:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3066 @ 0.0005236 = 1.6054 BTC [+]
Nov 29 09:34:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5727 @ 0.00051551 = 2.9523 BTC [-]
Nov 29 09:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1452 @ 0.00052376 = 0.7605 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 09:57:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00052537 = 8.7999 BTC [+]
Nov 29 09:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00052649 = 10.8983 BTC [+]
Nov 29 09:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00053016 = 3.234 BTC [+]
Nov 29 09:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12785 @ 0.00053059 = 6.7836 BTC [+]
Nov 29 09:57:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 565 @ 0.00053213 = 0.3007 BTC [+]
Nov 29 09:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005321 = 1.2478 BTC [-]
Nov 29 09:58:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29088 @ 0.00053213 = 15.4786 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 10:06:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053196 = 1.2474 BTC [-]
Nov 29 10:06:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1447 @ 0.00053213 = 0.77 BTC [+]
Nov 29 10:06:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13508 @ 0.00053365 = 7.2085 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 10:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4042 @ 0.00053365 = 2.157 BTC [+]
Nov 29 10:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3308 @ 0.00053444 = 1.7679 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 10:21:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052411 = 1.229 BTC [-]
Nov 29 10:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3648 @ 0.00052404 = 1.9117 BTC [-]
Nov 29 10:21:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11406 @ 0.00052258 = 5.9605 BTC [-]
Nov 29 10:21:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14901 @ 0.00051699 = 7.7037 BTC [-]
Nov 29 10:21:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00051699 = 8.2977 BTC [-]
Nov 29 10:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00051699 = 11.3221 BTC [-]
Nov 29 10:28:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.0005186 = 18.7215 BTC [+]
Nov 29 10:28:29 <leotreasure>	http://soundcloud.com/djleo/classical-bitcoin-with-piano
Nov 29 10:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2439 @ 0.00052832 = 1.2886 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 10:37:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00338428 = 4.9072 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 10:51:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053418 = 1.2527 BTC [+]
Nov 29 10:51:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3058 @ 0.00053444 = 1.6343 BTC [+]
Nov 29 10:51:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7932 @ 0.00053459 = 4.2404 BTC [+]
Nov 29 10:51:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9215 @ 0.00053531 = 4.9329 BTC [+]
Nov 29 10:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052833 = 1.2389 BTC [-]
Nov 29 10:58:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7711 @ 0.00052832 = 4.0739 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 11:05:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 891 @ 0.0033416 = 2.9774 BTC [-]
Nov 29 11:05:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1563 @ 0.00333118 = 5.2066 BTC [-]
Nov 29 11:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052798 = 1.2381 BTC [-]
Nov 29 11:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10224 @ 0.00052818 = 5.4001 BTC [+]
Nov 29 11:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10131 @ 0.00053531 = 5.4232 BTC [+]
Nov 29 11:10:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7536 @ 0.00053531 = 4.0341 BTC [+]
Nov 29 11:10:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00053564 = 2.8657 BTC [+]
Nov 29 11:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6119 @ 0.00053602 = 3.2799 BTC [+]
Nov 29 11:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00053602 = 2.9213 BTC [+]
Nov 29 11:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9096 @ 0.00053194 = 4.8385 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 11:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	what did i miss
Nov 29 11:31:04 <kakobreklaaa>	;;ticker
Nov 29 11:31:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.47835, Best ask: 12.47836, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.47835, 24 hour volume: 29050.39462363, 24 hour low: 12.15000, 24 hour high: 12.59900, 24 hour vwap: 12.35523
Nov 29 11:32:52 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaaa ukto has a new exchange at bitfunder.com prolly wanna add it
Nov 29 11:34:30 <kakobreklaaa>	is it live yet?
Nov 29 11:34:47 <kakobreklaaa>	nope
Nov 29 11:34:53 <kakobreklaaa>	i still have my 10 playbtc on it
Nov 29 11:35:03 <kakobreklaaa>	lets buy some stuff
Nov 29 11:36:12 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: the market/asset pages are public now
Nov 29 11:36:18 <kakobreklaaa>	umm
Nov 29 11:36:22 <kakobreklaaa>	what is this dog?
Nov 29 11:36:25 <Ukto>	since its publically viewable I renamed some assets
Nov 29 11:36:25 <kakobreklaaa>	i cant buy stuff
Nov 29 11:36:36 <Ukto>	you logged in?
Nov 29 11:36:39 <kakobreklaaa>	yes
Nov 29 11:36:42 *	Ukto is editing on the asset page atm
Nov 29 11:36:42 <kakobreklaaa>	i see balance 10btc
Nov 29 11:36:44 <Ukto>	ooh
Nov 29 11:36:46 <Ukto>	i know why
Nov 29 11:36:46 <kakobreklaaa>	i press buy
Nov 29 11:36:46 <Ukto>	1 sec
Nov 29 11:36:49 <kakobreklaaa>	nothing happens
Nov 29 11:36:53 <kakobreklaaa>	i mean
Nov 29 11:36:54 <Ukto>	yeah, 1 sdc
Nov 29 11:36:58 <kakobreklaaa>	page gets loaded
Nov 29 11:37:00 <kakobreklaaa>	ok
Nov 29 11:37:06 <kakobreklaaa>	brb
Nov 29 11:37:27 <Ukto>	try now
Nov 29 11:38:00 <kakobreklaaa>	nope
Nov 29 11:38:02 <kakobreklaaa>	you try it
Nov 29 11:38:08 <kakobreklaaa>	before you make me do it :)
Nov 29 11:38:12 <kakobreklaaa>	http://bitfunder.com/asset/BTSEE-Mining
Nov 29 11:38:16 <kakobreklaaa>	im here
Nov 29 11:38:25 <kakobreklaaa>	anyway be back in 20m or so
Nov 29 11:38:42 <Ukto>	hah, i didnt save
Nov 29 11:38:42 <Ukto>	-_-
Nov 29 11:38:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00053194 = 14.8411 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 11:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 552 @ 0.0032 = 1.7664 BTC [+]
Nov 29 11:42:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00053194 = 6.4365 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 11:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-mpex-rota/#comment-90753 << this is going well
Nov 29 11:47:04 <mircea_popescu>	already 4 applications + 1 that's not up to form
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Nov 29 11:48:41 <kakobreklaaa>	who is Rassah
Nov 29 11:48:46 <kakobreklaaa>	;;getrating Rassah
Nov 29 11:48:47 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Rassah, rated since Fri Jun  3 20:49:22 2011. Cumulative rating 5, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 5 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Rassah
Nov 29 11:49:45 <kakobreklaaa>	ok brb for real now.
Nov 29 11:50:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00053164 = 4.6784 BTC [-]
Nov 29 11:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22950 @ 0.00053194 = 12.208 BTC [+]
Nov 29 11:53:32 *	pizzaman2337 is now known as pizzaman1337
Nov 29 11:53:50 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu do you feel it is appropriate to rate someone in return -> http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=gigavps&sign=ANY&type=RECV
Nov 29 11:54:13 <gigavps>	i have received a negative rating from bitnumus, i guess because of gigamining
Nov 29 11:54:18 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Nov 29 11:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	i would very much advise against you rating in return for that sort of stuff
Nov 29 11:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00053164 = 12.3075 BTC [-]
Nov 29 11:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00053068 = 1.4859 BTC [-]
Nov 29 11:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	i guess if you absolutely must you can go something like -1 I don't even know who this is or something
Nov 29 11:57:02 <gigavps>	i'll leave it alone
Nov 29 11:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	prolly best.
Nov 29 11:57:31 <Azelphur>	gigavps: I know that guy, I wonder why he has downrated you
Nov 29 11:57:39 <Azelphur>	I might give him a nudge about it next time he comes on
Nov 29 11:57:47 <gigavps>	he doesn't like how i'm handling gigamining
Nov 29 11:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	do you know this or just infer ?
Nov 29 11:58:23 <gigavps>	he's posted as much in the gigamining thread under the same handle
Nov 29 11:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Nov 29 11:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5254 @ 0.00053194 = 2.7948 BTC [+]
Nov 29 12:00:11 <mircea_popescu>	so nefario was going to release 3-4 assets a day a week ago
Nov 29 12:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00053562 = 1.4997 BTC [+]
Nov 29 12:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile, about what, 7-8 ? issuers got partial lists. very partial.
Nov 29 12:00:33 <mircea_popescu>	nefario is going to become a common noun.
Nov 29 12:00:33 <smickles>	yeah, still no list here
Nov 29 12:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	smickles on either of your things ?
Nov 29 12:01:15 <smickles>	indeed, one might say, 'no list for neither '
Nov 29 12:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 29 12:07:10 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: glad to see we got Bill Cosby in the college
Nov 29 12:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	who's that anyway ?
Nov 29 12:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	and no we don't jsut yet, he's not even managed to apply correctly.
Nov 29 12:09:01 <smickles>	http://bit.ly/1iMOYh
Nov 29 12:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	o, that cosby
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Nov 29 12:10:41 <smickles>	;D
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Nov 29 12:11:27 <smickles>	7739pirateat40-110gigavps2012-08-17 22:30:2310They don't come better.
Nov 29 12:11:48 <smickles>	I find pirate's rating of gigavps kinda humorous,
Nov 29 12:13:08 <smickles>	it's like the web is trying to say that a dodo has promised to be here, in person.
Nov 29 12:14:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00053562 = 12.7478 BTC [+]
Nov 29 12:14:46 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: cleaned up the asset view page
Nov 29 12:14:52 <kakobreklaaa>	ok i have just crashed BTSEE-Mining
Nov 29 12:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1365339#msg1365339
Nov 29 12:14:58 <Ukto>	graphs alot biger now, and the buy/sell boxes can actually hold larger numbers
Nov 29 12:15:05 <Ukto>	and resizing shouldnt break the divs
Nov 29 12:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	what's btsee-mining ?
Nov 29 12:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto link ?
Nov 29 12:15:34 <kakobreklaaa>	http://bitfunder.com/asset/BTSEE-Mining
Nov 29 12:15:45 <Ukto>	yeah, that one
Nov 29 12:15:54 <Ukto>	i am gonna set it to force everyhing to https://bitfunder in a bit
Nov 29 12:16:21 <Ukto>	debating making a Graphs tab, to display a crap ton of diff graph versions
Nov 29 12:16:30 <Ukto>	candles, OHLC, depth, etc
Nov 29 12:16:42 <Ukto>	all very simple at this point
Nov 29 12:16:44 <kakobreklaaa>	istead of 'my bid' in the orderbook
Nov 29 12:16:52 <kakobreklaaa>	put a button that says 'cancel bid'
Nov 29 12:17:05 <Ukto>	there is enough room
Nov 29 12:17:08 <Ukto>	that I can put both
Nov 29 12:17:14 <Ukto>	thanks to my recent resizing
Nov 29 12:17:19 <kakobreklaaa>	just the button
Nov 29 12:17:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 656 @ 0.00053562 = 0.3514 BTC [+]
Nov 29 12:17:28 <Ukto>	ppl are dumb
Nov 29 12:17:33 <Ukto>	besides
Nov 29 12:17:37 <Ukto>	i would like something extra to fill inthe line
Nov 29 12:17:38 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 12:17:49 <kakobreklaaa>	so you are making it less useful cause people are dumb
Nov 29 12:17:53 <kakobreklaaa>	bad argument
Nov 29 12:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	what's  My Ask ?
Nov 29 12:19:22 <kakobreklaaa>	http://shrani.najdi.si/?5/7K/1x7WlaZC/nybid.png
Nov 29 12:19:26 <kakobreklaaa>	my bid
Nov 29 12:19:28 <kakobreklaaa>	in this case
Nov 29 12:19:43 <kakobreklaaa>	now i have to go cancel it on a seperate page
Nov 29 12:19:46 <kakobreklaaa>	lame :p
Nov 29 12:20:00 <kakobreklaaa>	theres like 27 ways how to fix it
Nov 29 12:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	eh jesus that's a waste. just put a * or something next to it
Nov 29 12:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	with a tooltip maybe
Nov 29 12:23:30 <kakobreklaaa>	the main point is
Nov 29 12:23:39 <kakobreklaaa>	that one should be able to cancel it from there
Nov 29 12:24:20 <kakobreklaaa>	bitstamp has it like that
Nov 29 12:24:25 <kakobreklaaa>	and it works
Nov 29 12:24:40 <kakobreklaaa>	well hey have it implemented only hallf way
Nov 29 12:24:45 <kakobreklaaa>	but better than nothing
Nov 29 12:25:37 <Ukto>	there
Nov 29 12:25:39 <Ukto>	i was thinking something like that
Nov 29 12:25:44 <Ukto>	for a cancel button on the order page
Nov 29 12:25:51 <kakobreklaaa>	better
Nov 29 12:26:02 <Ukto>	debating using red button tho
Nov 29 12:26:04 <Ukto>	instead of blue
Nov 29 12:26:08 <Ukto>	since it is a 'cancel'
Nov 29 12:26:14 <Ukto>	but cancling isnt the endof the world tpe thing
Nov 29 12:26:16 <Ukto>	so meh
Nov 29 12:26:47 <kakobreklaaa>	just put it in <blink> tags and it will be fine
Nov 29 12:28:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00053562 = 9.4805 BTC [+]
Nov 29 12:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18094 @ 0.00053562 = 9.6915 BTC [+]
Nov 29 12:33:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3256 @ 0.00053602 = 1.7453 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 12:35:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.27088322 = 270.8832 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 12:49:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.2714765 = 271.4765 BTC [+]
Nov 29 12:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6294 @ 0.00053602 = 3.3737 BTC [+]
Nov 29 12:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00053637 = 3.6473 BTC [+]
Nov 29 12:49:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00053677 = 2.2008 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 12:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.0005356 = 2.0621 BTC [-]
Nov 29 12:56:31 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2012/11/29/the-common-man/
Nov 29 12:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.2714765 = 271.4765 BTC [+]
Nov 29 12:59:15 <mircea_popescu>	o look he has a blog!
Nov 29 12:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham didja see http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-mpex-rota/ ?
Nov 29 12:59:43 <jcpham>	sup
Nov 29 12:59:47 <jcpham>	you rang me?
Nov 29 13:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	yee
Nov 29 13:01:06 <jcpham>	Will be interesting to see who wants to risk 10 BTC on messing with missy -PR.
Nov 29 13:01:10 <jcpham>	hahahaha
Nov 29 13:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Nov 29 13:02:29 <jcpham>	why are the judges necessary
Nov 29 13:02:46 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu can just rule with an iron fist
Nov 29 13:02:51 <jcpham>	and is there a chance that someone will fly me to romania
Nov 29 13:03:09 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham so someone can judge ? lol.
Nov 29 13:03:16 <jcpham>	shit.
Nov 29 13:03:50 <jcpham>	so this is how mpex disputes are to be resolved?
Nov 29 13:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps i usually rule with a D cup tit.
Nov 29 13:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	well i think disputes in general, but sure.
Nov 29 13:04:27 <jcpham>	ic
Nov 29 13:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	in the sense that if you sue me i'll prolly pay to find out
Nov 29 13:04:51 <jcpham>	making a plaintiff pay a fee is a good idea
Nov 29 13:04:58 <jcpham>	knock out those false claims
Nov 29 13:05:39 <mircea_popescu>	well, he gets it back if he's right
Nov 29 13:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	basically, as a judge, you know for a fact you get 30 BTC if you last a year, + 3 btc a case, no matter how you decide it.
Nov 29 13:06:49 <mircea_popescu>	so it's not exactly slavery, but i guess maybe not really far off.
Nov 29 13:07:03 <jcpham>	are you offering me the job :)
Nov 29 13:07:15 <jcpham>	it sounds like you are tbh
Nov 29 13:07:56 <jcpham>	i mean, you are saying bllah blah this and blah blah that
Nov 29 13:08:10 <jcpham>	but all i see is "i reaaly really reaaly want you jcpham"
Nov 29 13:08:40 <mircea_popescu>	hehehe
Nov 29 13:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	you can apply!
Nov 29 13:08:53 <jcpham>	yay
Nov 29 13:09:33 <jurov>	mircea, thanks for notification, I replied. And wasn't particularly kind to BTCT.
Nov 29 13:10:01 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1367058#msg1367058
Nov 29 13:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	i c
Nov 29 13:12:26 <jcpham>	;;gpg info jcpham
Nov 29 13:12:26 <gribble>	User 'jcpham', with keyid C71FB5ED6ACE04AF, fingerprint F7299BD73879E866613EAB24C71FB5ED6ACE04AF, and bitcoin address 16zaKwZC6n9BMipwLbewYGn8NXEgmN2f3Y, registered on Fri Nov 11 09:21:29 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=jcpham . Currently authenticated from hostmask jcpham!~jcpham@unaffiliated/jcpham .
Nov 29 13:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	pr's comments re public nuisance : "there should be a cancan ice cream parlor"
Nov 29 13:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham it's not a contest you realise ? the idea is to have a buncha judges.
Nov 29 13:15:27 <jcpham>	NO!
Nov 29 13:15:33 <jcpham>	it's a contest and i just won it
Nov 29 13:15:59 <jcpham>	thanks to you mircea_popescu
Nov 29 13:16:15 <mircea_popescu>	aokthan
Nov 29 13:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00333439 = 4.6681 BTC [+]
Nov 29 13:16:33 <jcpham>	w/e
Nov 29 13:16:44 <jcpham>	i don't mind settling disputes with an iron fist
Nov 29 13:17:48 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if there's porn of it.
Nov 29 13:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	disputes-being-settled-with-iron-fist.com
Nov 29 13:18:02 <jcpham>	iron-fist porn?
Nov 29 13:18:14 <jcpham>	sounds like wu-tang's next album
Nov 29 13:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	wow wu tang still exists ?
Nov 29 13:18:57 <jcpham>	shrug idk! they exist in my heart though
Nov 29 13:22:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.27206883 = 272.0688 BTC [+]
Nov 29 13:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00053634 = 2.0381 BTC [+]
Nov 29 13:31:13 <kakobreklaaa>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128397.msg1366929#msg1366929
Nov 29 13:31:20 <kakobreklaaa>	la resistance
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Nov 29 13:37:17 <Ukto>	kakobreklaaa: hmm, there is an issue with the cancel button being there
Nov 29 13:37:19 <Ukto>	I have to figure out
Nov 29 13:37:47 <Ukto>	right now, if you bid for 1 share.. and then bid another at the same price.. it creates 2 trades
Nov 29 13:37:53 <Ukto>	I really should change it to stack into the saem
Nov 29 13:37:56 <Ukto>	no reason not to
Nov 29 13:38:01 <Ukto>	will fix the cancel button issue
Nov 29 13:39:26 <kakobreklaaa>	dont you use some uniqe id for the bids and asks?
Nov 29 13:40:18 <Ukto>	I do
Nov 29 13:40:27 <Ukto>	but the bids/asks table groups total shares by price
Nov 29 13:40:38 <kakobreklaaa>	ah
Nov 29 13:40:47 <Ukto>	either way, I am fizzing it up
Nov 29 13:41:01 <Ukto>	no reason to have seperate db items for multiple of the same asset at the same price
Nov 29 13:41:03 <Ukto>	its just a waset
Nov 29 13:41:06 <Ukto>	waste
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Nov 29 13:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaaa la resistance du temps fondue lol
Nov 29 13:43:54 <kakobreklaaa>	resistance melted time?
Nov 29 13:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Nov 29 13:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	omg i am told rassah actually is a girl.
Nov 29 13:44:49 <mircea_popescu>	a GIRL JUDGE ?! is this possible ?
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Nov 29 13:44:59 <smickles>	we're boned
Nov 29 13:45:02 <smickles>	:o
Nov 29 13:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Nov 29 13:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	on the interwebs!
Nov 29 13:45:15 <kakobreklaaa>	pencil in the pooper.
Nov 29 13:45:16 <mircea_popescu>	Boned On The Interwebs. A tru story.
Nov 29 13:45:54 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaaa it's sharpie in pooper you person of dubious eastern european origin you
Nov 29 13:46:10 <kakobreklaaa>	ah sorry.
Nov 29 13:50:56 <dub>	I got fucked by a lady judge
Nov 29 13:51:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24498 @ 0.0005356 = 13.1211 BTC [-]
Nov 29 13:51:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00053552 = 3.347 BTC [-]
Nov 29 13:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00053398 = 6.7548 BTC [-]
Nov 29 13:51:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5608 @ 0.00053283 = 2.9881 BTC [-]
Nov 29 13:51:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6644 @ 0.00053276 = 3.5397 BTC [-]
Nov 29 13:53:11 <dub>	and not in that good way
Nov 29 13:53:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00053634 = 7.6697 BTC [+]
Nov 29 13:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	in the ass ?
Nov 29 13:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.27206883 = 272.0688 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 14:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00053634 = 4.8271 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.0005364 = 7.751 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:01:51 <EskimoBob>	with a hammer?
Nov 29 14:02:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.0005364 = 12.9272 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5756 @ 0.00053276 = 3.0666 BTC [-]
Nov 29 14:03:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19344 @ 0.00053271 = 10.3047 BTC [-]
Nov 29 14:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	assgavel
Nov 29 14:16:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.2726602 = 272.6602 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10766 @ 0.0005364 = 5.7749 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00053677 = 7.8905 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00053682 = 4.3751 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4554 @ 0.0005369 = 2.445 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00053695 = 6.6045 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:16:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252 @ 0.00053698 = 0.1353 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:32:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3941 @ 0.00053698 = 2.1162 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 14:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00053698 = 15.5187 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 14:45:55 <jurov>	with a sharpie?
Nov 29 14:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 29 14:51:17 <dub>	lol assgavel
Nov 29 14:51:36 <jurov>	according to map on www.sharpie.com, any sharpies in eastern europe was there exported illegally.
Nov 29 14:51:47 <jurov>	*were
Nov 29 14:52:16 <mircea_popescu>	d'uh.
Nov 29 14:52:48 <kakobreklaaa>	jurov you have work to do https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.msg1367295#msg1367295
Nov 29 14:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00053582 = 9.9663 BTC [-]
Nov 29 14:53:53 <jurov>	oh no...
Nov 29 14:54:09 <jurov>	maybe i can concoct something involving postal pigeons and bottles thrown into the sea
Nov 29 14:54:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1857 @ 0.00053698 = 0.9972 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8582 @ 0.00053718 = 4.6101 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:54:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2461 @ 0.00053732 = 1.3223 BTC [+]
Nov 29 14:55:35 <jurov>	but that will wait. now i'm entagled in postgres locking intricacies
Nov 29 14:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	further reading http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/17150.html
Nov 29 14:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol wait. he wants to use coinbr to offer mpex stuff on his exchange ?
Nov 29 15:00:24 <smickles>	wow, icbit closed unchanged from yesterday
Nov 29 15:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	how much is it yet ?
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Nov 29 15:03:51 <smickles>	12.31
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Nov 29 15:04:34 <burnside>	hola
Nov 29 15:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	hallo
Nov 29 15:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053604 = 1.257 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3857 @ 0.00053582 = 2.0667 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:04:44 <smickles>	howdy
Nov 29 15:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6798 @ 0.00053466 = 3.6346 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Nov 29 15:04:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.48898, Best ask: 12.48899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.48898, 24 hour volume: 25387.36802085, 24 hour low: 12.15000, 24 hour high: 12.59900, 24 hour vwap: 12.39307
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Nov 29 15:05:04 <mircea_popescu>	so just .15 under the actual exchange rate.
Nov 29 15:05:12 <smickles>	yup
Nov 29 15:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	better than the historical .5 i guess. still way off imo\
Nov 29 15:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053491 = 1.2544 BTC [+]
Nov 29 15:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13155 @ 0.00053466 = 7.0335 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00053429 = 0.9083 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	jurov concoct what with pigeons ?
Nov 29 15:06:09 <smickles>	anything to do with cocts and pigeons is a win
Nov 29 15:07:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5800 @ 0.00333439 = 19.3395 BTC [+]
Nov 29 15:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 137 @ 0.00333118 = 0.4564 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3650 @ 0.00330716 = 12.0711 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3900 @ 0.00330565 = 12.892 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.0033034 = 2.9731 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00329555 = 7.0854 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:07:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00329177 = 8.2294 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:07:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00329018 = 3.6192 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 648 @ 0.00328901 = 2.1313 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:07:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6715 @ 0.00328634 = 22.0678 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	did satoshidice just lose a bunch of money or something ?
Nov 29 15:09:28 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, the coinbr to mpex order submission process
Nov 29 15:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	o
Nov 29 15:09:54 <Doffx>	Maybe someone just wanted some BTC?
Nov 29 15:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00053429 = 9.8844 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00053404 = 3.5514 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	o o, burnside you the btcsomething new exchange guy ?
Nov 29 15:10:12 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx don't be silly, who would want btc.
Nov 29 15:10:16 <Doffx>	Once Deadterra gets the Glbse Info it will be even bigger selloff im sure
Nov 29 15:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	it's monopoly money
Nov 29 15:10:18 <burnside>	yeah, sorta I guess.
Nov 29 15:10:35 <Doffx>	So they can transfer it to Fiat Duh
Nov 29 15:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	a ok. jurov you prolly know as rinisomething. runs coinbr
Nov 29 15:11:01 <burnside>	it's one of a lot of projects.  :)
Nov 29 15:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx fiat is a scam
Nov 29 15:11:13 <Doffx>	That is for sure.
Nov 29 15:11:17 <jurov>	yes, i've got kinda split personality, rini17 is my other half
Nov 29 15:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	is it because you're really 17 ?
Nov 29 15:11:31 <burnside>	coinbr, they batch the orders?
Nov 29 15:11:44 <jurov>	i was 17 once
Nov 29 15:11:55 <burnside>	me too... a long time ago
Nov 29 15:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	well... as long as you're doing 17 yos it dun matter anyway.
Nov 29 15:12:33 <dub>	rini17 is your pr?
Nov 29 15:12:46 <jurov>	burnside, coinbr does not any batching. and hopefully never will do.
Nov 29 15:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	what'd be the benefit anyway ?
Nov 29 15:13:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9430 @ 0.00053404 = 5.036 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:13:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5856 @ 0.00053271 = 3.1195 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8114 @ 0.00053216 = 4.3179 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:13:24 <burnside>	not sure, just saw all the orders come thru at once on s.dice
Nov 29 15:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think that was coinbr
Nov 29 15:14:25 <burnside>	ahhh, I misunderstood
Nov 29 15:14:30 <burnside>	np
Nov 29 15:14:37 <jurov>	with coinbr you'd actually have a problem to submit multiple orders at once, there's kinda protection on order form and more
Nov 29 15:14:51 <mircea_popescu>	but in general, if a single sell/buy crosses multiple bid/asks on the book it'll spark a bunch of lines
Nov 29 15:15:06 <jurov>	^ this
Nov 29 15:15:16 <burnside>	that makes sense, ditto for btctc
Nov 29 15:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	do you have a twitter tradestream somewhere for that ?
Nov 29 15:15:34 <burnside>	tho, sadly, I do not have an assbot
Nov 29 15:15:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053716 = 1.2596 BTC [+]
Nov 29 15:15:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24005 @ 0.00053732 = 12.8984 BTC [+]
Nov 29 15:15:49 <burnside>	nah, twitter rate limits... no good.
Nov 29 15:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	it does ?
Nov 29 15:16:35 <burnside>	yeah, the glbse feed was missing stuff because of it
Nov 29 15:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	hum i wasn't aware it eats things.
Nov 29 15:17:22 <gigavps>	like sharpies?
Nov 29 15:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	i know it ate identical updates, but i added a fix for that
Nov 29 15:17:39 <burnside>	not necessarily eating them, just replies when you make the post that you're posting too fast
Nov 29 15:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	you sure glbse didn't have the same issue ?
Nov 29 15:18:04 <burnside>	not sure, don't have the background.
Nov 29 15:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps lets not go into that :p
Nov 29 15:18:23 <gigavps>	o
Nov 29 15:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005323 = 1.2482 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3855 @ 0.00053216 = 2.0515 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135422020536.jpg schoolgirls today.
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Nov 29 15:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.19216735 = 192.1674 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	jurov http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE i want to click on 7day. why can't i click on 7 day ;/
Nov 29 15:26:00 <jurov>	say "please"  :P
Nov 29 15:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	please!
Nov 29 15:26:16 <dub>	lol
Nov 29 15:26:24 <dub>	mircea_popescu subbing for a change
Nov 29 15:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	burnside also meet Ukto , he runs what was it
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Nov 29 15:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	bitfunder.com
Nov 29 15:26:48 <jurov>	if the broker goes broke, do I have a problem?
Nov 29 15:26:54 <Ukto>	?
Nov 29 15:27:04 <Ukto>	burnside: sup :)
Nov 29 15:27:20 <jurov>	another gem from coinbr thread...i'd rather go add the 7d link
Nov 29 15:27:22 <mircea_popescu>	jurov which broker or what ?
Nov 29 15:27:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 29 15:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	kumala ocasionally shows up, he runs cryptostocks
Nov 29 15:28:27 <mircea_popescu>	(which is different from cryptoexchange ; linked to vircurex iirc)
Nov 29 15:28:48 <burnside>	Ukto, hey there.
Nov 29 15:29:09 <burnside>	Ukto, what do you run?  Sorry, working my day job atm.
Nov 29 15:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053701 = 1.2593 BTC [+]
Nov 29 15:29:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13005 @ 0.00053732 = 6.9878 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 15:31:35 <Ukto>	burnside: getting ready to launch https://bitfunder.com
Nov 29 15:31:39 <Ukto>	in test mode atm
Nov 29 15:32:17 <burnside>	oh hey, nice
Nov 29 15:32:54 *	Ukto is working on breaking it atm :P
Nov 29 15:33:04 <Ukto>	re-doing some sql + keys sets
Nov 29 15:33:10 <Ukto>	to make things far more efficinet
Nov 29 15:33:13 <Ukto>	efficient
Nov 29 15:33:15 <Ukto>	even
Nov 29 15:33:18 <burnside>	it definitely looks good, lovethe design
Nov 29 15:33:22 <Ukto>	and then gotta setup the API sys
Nov 29 15:33:23 <Ukto>	thanks
Nov 29 15:33:28 <Ukto>	look unter BTSEE-mining
Nov 29 15:33:31 <Ukto>	under the profile tab
Nov 29 15:33:36 <Ukto>	the oldest news item is riot
Nov 29 15:33:37 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 15:33:37 <mircea_popescu>	seems everyone loves bootstrap
Nov 29 15:33:54 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: it looks nice (if done right) and makes life simple
Nov 29 15:33:54 <dub>	you should bootstrap mpex
Nov 29 15:34:11 <Ukto>	yeh. if you want help I would be happy to toss in some knowldge :)
Nov 29 15:34:20 <Ukto>	still learning alot of the fancynesses tho
Nov 29 15:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	dub i am too old for these new foppish styles
Nov 29 15:34:57 <burnside>	lol, that'll be the day. (pirate returns deposits)
Nov 29 15:34:58 <Ukto>	I did almost all of bitfunder in bootstrap.. only recently started adding any extra jquery to do special stuffs
Nov 29 15:35:04 <Ukto>	hehe
Nov 29 15:35:08 <Ukto>	did you read the actual article part?
Nov 29 15:35:09 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 15:35:21 <Ukto>	click to expand it
Nov 29 15:35:40 <Ukto>	asset issuers can easily draft, edit, and then post newslettes
Nov 29 15:35:49 <mircea_popescu>	do you mail them ?
Nov 29 15:35:55 <Ukto>	was debating it as an option
Nov 29 15:35:56 <burnside>	that's pretty smooth
Nov 29 15:35:59 <dub>	mircea_popescu: would be fun though
Nov 29 15:36:01 <Ukto>	havent touched the mail options stuff yet
Nov 29 15:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	may run into problems with email volume
Nov 29 15:36:13 <Ukto>	'notifications' technically
Nov 29 15:36:14 <Ukto>	nah
Nov 29 15:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	i ran a sort of romanian reddit + my blog, ended up sending in the low k's emails each day
Nov 29 15:36:23 <Ukto>	I have a special email service I use
Nov 29 15:36:27 <mircea_popescu>	it ocasionally was a pain
Nov 29 15:36:30 <burnside>	I'm gonna get my ass handed to me.  ;)
Nov 29 15:36:40 <Ukto>	being in the hosting business
Nov 29 15:36:46 <Ukto>	i have had my share of mailers
Nov 29 15:36:54 <mircea_popescu>	burnside in finance the tech part is the smaller half of the cake.
Nov 29 15:36:57 <burnside>	I'm with MP... too old school.
Nov 29 15:36:58 <Ukto>	and dealing with how to make good mailers work right, and getting rid of the 'spammers'
Nov 29 15:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	many people can make nice websites, the idea is to not fuck up.
Nov 29 15:37:10 <Ukto>	burnside: which is yours?
Nov 29 15:37:18 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: tell me about it
Nov 29 15:37:30 <burnside>	btct.co
Nov 29 15:38:16 <Ukto>	oh
Nov 29 15:38:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053222 = 1.2481 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:38:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7854 @ 0.00053216 = 4.1796 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:38:18 <Ukto>	>,>
Nov 29 15:38:31 <Ukto>	I apologize if I have said anything that might sound negative towards the design on the site
Nov 29 15:38:32 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 15:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Nov 29 15:38:40 <burnside>	lol
Nov 29 15:38:44 *	Ukto scans his log files
Nov 29 15:38:56 <burnside>	actually, I'd like to hear what you have to say
Nov 29 15:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	<Ukto> that btct.co website design sucks balls omg
Nov 29 15:39:08 *	Ukto hides
Nov 29 15:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	something like that ?
Nov 29 15:39:09 <burnside>	first time here, so I haven't caught anything b4 today
Nov 29 15:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	burnside you may wish to get an actual client
Nov 29 15:39:22 <mircea_popescu>	web doesn't keep logs.
Nov 29 15:39:29 <Ukto>	its not that bad, was just talking shit
Nov 29 15:39:32 <Ukto>	it needs some..
Nov 29 15:39:34 <Ukto>	fixing up
Nov 29 15:39:44 <Ukto>	it actualyl looks diff though
Nov 29 15:39:47 <Ukto>	from when I looked before
Nov 29 15:39:50 <Ukto>	last time, things were misaligned
Nov 29 15:39:52 <burnside>	yeah, i'll have to dl one... haven't been on irc in years.
Nov 29 15:40:00 <burnside>	used to use some cli ones on linux
Nov 29 15:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	me either. i used to hook up on irc in the 90s
Nov 29 15:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	then forgot about it... then got sucked in with bitcoin again
Nov 29 15:40:23 <Ukto>	burnside: have you changed the layout of the page at all lately?
Nov 29 15:40:42 <burnside>	Ukto, I don't think so...
Nov 29 15:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4255 @ 0.00053216 = 2.2643 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5645 @ 0.00053068 = 2.9957 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:40:54 <burnside>	mostly been working on some of the features.
Nov 29 15:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto are you thinking of the mpex clone someone came up with ?
Nov 29 15:41:08 <burnside>	the core is solid, been running a couple months on the LTC side of things
Nov 29 15:41:09 <Ukto>	might have been
Nov 29 15:41:15 <Ukto>	this looks similar to what I remember htough
Nov 29 15:41:28 <burnside>	but yeah, I looked at it on my phone the other day and it needs some tweaks
Nov 29 15:41:31 <Ukto>	but the bonds/funds tables were badly aligned with each other
Nov 29 15:41:40 <Ukto>	and there was alot more green
Nov 29 15:42:20 <Ukto>	also, personal opinion, I dont like the user/pass fields location. kinda space wastey
Nov 29 15:42:49 <burnside>	yeah, could move 'em to just the index page
Nov 29 15:42:51 <burnside>	or a login page
Nov 29 15:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	anyone actually implement 2fa yet ?
Nov 29 15:43:07 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: mines been there since the get go
Nov 29 15:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8593 @ 0.00053068 = 4.5601 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19069 @ 0.00053064 = 10.1188 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:43:14 <Ukto>	I have google 2fa on weex, hp, and bf
Nov 29 15:43:21 <Ukto>	its a musta have
Nov 29 15:43:23 <burnside>	yeah, I think I added it a week or two after launch on ltc-global
Nov 29 15:43:27 <Ukto>	and like 5 min to implement
Nov 29 15:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	that's good.
Nov 29 15:43:38 <Ukto>	burnside: the site is launched?
Nov 29 15:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	imo google 2fa may be better than the dongle. just my opinion
Nov 29 15:43:52 <burnside>	litecoinglobal.com  been running for months
Nov 29 15:44:09 <Ukto>	oh. somehow i was associating the beta msg at the top, as test mode
Nov 29 15:44:10 <Ukto>	not sure why
Nov 29 15:44:13 <burnside>	I like the google, just because I hate having lots of devices
Nov 29 15:44:23 <burnside>	nah, "public beta"
Nov 29 15:44:31 <burnside>	you use it while I break it.
Nov 29 15:44:31 <Ukto>	should write 'Live Beta'
Nov 29 15:44:38 <burnside>	that works too
Nov 29 15:44:42 <Ukto>	Thats what I do
Nov 29 15:44:46 <Ukto>	I get away with all kinda things
Nov 29 15:44:47 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 15:44:54 <Ukto>	do like Zynga
Nov 29 15:44:57 <Ukto>	permenant "beta" status
Nov 29 15:45:04 <Ukto>	any problems, just blame it on the fact of being a beta
Nov 29 15:45:05 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 15:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	glbse did the same thing
Nov 29 15:45:21 <Ukto>	"Farmville" was always beta. now 2 is out
Nov 29 15:45:23 <burnside>	yeah, I don't think I'll be permanently beta, but definitely for the next couple months
Nov 29 15:45:24 <Ukto>	and guess what, its beta!
Nov 29 15:45:25 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 15:45:29 <burnside>	heh
Nov 29 15:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen nefario
Nov 29 15:45:43 <gribble>	nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 weeks, 3 days, 0 hours, 45 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Nov 29 15:45:44 <burnside>	yeah, kind of a legal get out of jail free card.
Nov 29 15:45:50 <Ukto>	I might just go Delta.
Nov 29 15:45:52 <Ukto>	yeah
Nov 29 15:46:01 <Ukto>	wont get you out of a scammer tag tho ;)
Nov 29 15:46:14 <Ukto>	besides, with bitcoins, i have my ToS because its the truth
Nov 29 15:46:15 <burnside>	lol, no
Nov 29 15:46:26 <Ukto>	anyone who says anything otherwise, its kind of a lie
Nov 29 15:46:36 <Ukto>	esp w/o real id, and verification
Nov 29 15:46:39 <Ukto>	etc
Nov 29 15:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	o btw, you two have seen http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-mpex-rota/ ?
Nov 29 15:46:59 <Ukto>	use an anonymous service anonymously, and get anonymous reprecutionions.
Nov 29 15:47:02 <burnside>	heh, yeah, your ToS cracked me up
Nov 29 15:47:53 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: LOL
Nov 29 15:47:53 <Ukto>	nice
Nov 29 15:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	should be a better way than the forum scmamer tag
Nov 29 15:48:27 <burnside>	MP, that's pretty cool.
Nov 29 15:48:38 <burnside>	sooner or later I'll spend some time figuring out WoT
Nov 29 15:48:48 <Ukto>	thought it was funny when ppl called for a scammer tag on theymos :P
Nov 29 15:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	actually i'ma see if theymos won't just enforce scammer tags if ordered there. should make it easier for mods.
Nov 29 15:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto people, i think that was my ever-loving pr chick.
Nov 29 15:49:05 <burnside>	been a low priority, I have enough about me out on the net
Nov 29 15:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	burnside that's not such a smart call. the wot is central.
Nov 29 15:49:22 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 15:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7570 @ 0.00053313 = 4.0358 BTC [+]
Nov 29 15:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053706 = 1.2594 BTC [+]
Nov 29 15:49:34 <Ukto>	anywho
Nov 29 15:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1229 @ 0.00053732 = 0.6604 BTC [+]
Nov 29 15:49:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 756 @ 0.00053735 = 0.4062 BTC [+]
Nov 29 15:49:36 <burnside>	yeah, i'll do it eventually
Nov 29 15:49:38 <Ukto>	i have bitfudner part broken atm
Nov 29 15:49:41 <Ukto>	so i need to focus for a couple
Nov 29 15:50:43 <burnside>	Ukto, later.  nice work with the site.  lemme know if there's anything I can help with security-wise, etc.
Nov 29 15:50:49 <burnside>	I'm sure MP will assist too
Nov 29 15:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00053076 = 0.7961 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:53:07 <smickles>	lol, the stats say that some people found their way to my blog via a google search for...
Nov 29 15:53:12 <smickles>	wait for it...
Nov 29 15:53:19 <smickles>	"google"
Nov 29 15:54:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.19216735 = 192.1674 BTC [-]
Nov 29 15:54:53 *	jcpham googles googles right now
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Nov 29 15:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol smickles ciuciu makes jokes you don't get!
Nov 29 15:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha that was kickass.
Nov 29 15:56:54 <smickles>	I'm glad I entertain
Nov 29 15:57:13 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/developments-on-the-wikipedia-talk-page/ :P
Nov 29 15:57:19 <dub>	is this the usual bitcoin calibre of humour?
Nov 29 15:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	what, still with that stuff ?
Nov 29 15:57:24 <smickles>	'cause I know you like the topic mircea_popescu
Nov 29 15:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	has the wikipedia quote even changed ?
Nov 29 15:57:28 <dub>	hay gais im a fish, no im not LOL
Nov 29 15:57:41 <mircea_popescu>	dub sort-of i guess
Nov 29 15:57:44 <dub>	ala -otc
Nov 29 15:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	except in this case the guy was a fish
Nov 29 15:57:54 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: once, but it's still not 'neutral' but then they added the NPOV dispute tag
Nov 29 15:58:01 <dub>	you got troll im not really a fish bawhawhaw
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Nov 29 15:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	which is overall a worse outcome smickles
Nov 29 15:58:16 <mircea_popescu>	cause now people will infer it's about the article not about some dumbass sentence
Nov 29 15:58:35 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: its positioned right above that one sentense
Nov 29 15:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	mp's theorem of wikipedia : any time sunk into wikipedia makes the world overall a worse place.
Nov 29 15:58:38 <smickles>	*ce
Nov 29 15:59:39 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: aslo, there are people actually asking me to write about the issue
Nov 29 15:59:44 <dub>	whats up with your blog header?
Nov 29 15:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	whose ?
Nov 29 16:00:01 <dub>	smickles, the pic
Nov 29 16:00:02 <smickles>	dub: the old and new shoes?
Nov 29 16:00:16 <dub>	I get, guy with shitty shoes getting fucked in the ass by guy with better shoes
Nov 29 16:00:20 *	burnside is now known as burnside_away
Nov 29 16:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	smickles is a shoe
Nov 29 16:00:27 <smickles>	lolwut?
Nov 29 16:00:41 <smickles>	dub: you thook that out of the pic?
Nov 29 16:00:46 <dub>	yeah
Nov 29 16:00:53 <smickles>	0.0
Nov 29 16:00:54 <dub>	outside pair is nicer shoes
Nov 29 16:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	ok, dub is perverse.
Nov 29 16:01:23 <smickles>	it's a comparison of my new shoes to my old shoes, lol
Nov 29 16:01:27 <dub>	inside kinda kowtowed
Nov 29 16:02:02 <smickles>	well, i've got to leave it that way now
Nov 29 16:02:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053605 = 1.257 BTC [+]
Nov 29 16:02:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9155 @ 0.00053611 = 4.9081 BTC [+]
Nov 29 16:02:23 <dub>	its teh average man getting fucked by the rich!
Nov 29 16:02:27 <smickles>	dub: you can even see that the inner shoes are empty!
Nov 29 16:02:43 <dub>	not really, its kinda dark
Nov 29 16:03:18 <smickles>	ah well, thanks for taking a gander at my blog :)
Nov 29 16:03:43 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> its teh average man getting fucked by the rich! <<< :D
Nov 29 16:04:10 <smickles>	and for making me laugh at my not seeing that possibility
Nov 29 16:04:27 <dub>	its a great theme for finance related blog tbh
Nov 29 16:04:32 <mircea_popescu>	ftr smickles i always thought it's your wife's shoes in the middle
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Nov 29 16:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	and hence inferred she's also taller than you
Nov 29 16:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub maybe you should start one.
Nov 29 16:05:32 <smickles>	heh, they are both mine tho, so .. i'm taller than myself? Oh hey, I'm larger than life !@
Nov 29 16:05:51 <dub>	a blog? I can hardly be bothered ranting on twitter
Nov 29 16:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	you should be put into one of those male chastity belts and only allowed out ~half hour after you've posted a good article
Nov 29 16:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	i know a coupla pretty famous cooking blogs that work on that principle.
Nov 29 16:07:24 <dub>	actually that is somethign I've thought about
Nov 29 16:07:51 <dub>	sharing my culinary adventures
Nov 29 16:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	so there you go
Nov 29 16:08:25 <dub>	mrs dub wouldn't go for the chastity belt thing tho
Nov 29 16:09:30 <smickles>	I actually tend to wait till she begs for it
Nov 29 16:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	a well
Nov 29 16:10:33 <smickles>	so, i dunno, maybe I'd need to be tied up or somehting for that modality to work for me
Nov 29 16:11:09 <smickles>	lol, "Spontaneous kindness is to hipsters as high beams are to deer."
Nov 29 16:13:04 <dub>	so I made up a sauce the other night, a traditional (home made) mint sauce turned into a buerre blanc, was quite impressed with myself
Nov 29 16:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	what is this faggotry!
Nov 29 16:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	real men eat bearing balls.
Nov 29 16:14:02 <dub>	sorry, not up to your fish froma  tube sandwiches :)
Nov 29 16:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10089 @ 0.00053611 = 5.4088 BTC [+]
Nov 29 16:14:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5761 @ 0.00053735 = 3.0957 BTC [+]
Nov 29 16:15:08 <dub>	that was truly frightening to me, I knew about cheese in a can but fish?
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Nov 29 16:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	ehehe
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Nov 29 16:15:56 <mircea_popescu>	you should go to sweden.
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Nov 29 16:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	they have shops dedicated to fish in a tube.
Nov 29 16:16:16 <dub>	obv. I know about canned fish, guess its just different packaging
Nov 29 16:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	let's call it an european thing.
Nov 29 16:17:16 <dub>	yes, I'm a bit spoiled, plenty of good fish int he sea 800m from my front door
Nov 29 16:17:58 <smickles>	21:13 < mircea_popescu> real men eat bearing balls. << or quoran cooked bacon, right?
Nov 29 16:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	but that's not smoked.
Nov 29 16:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	i like fresh fish, don't get me wrong, but something like winter sprats
Nov 29 16:18:02 <mircea_popescu>	or smoked salmon, or cured herring etc can't be matched.
Nov 29 16:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol that's right.
Nov 29 16:18:56 <dub>	smoking a fish takes a stainless steel box and 20 minutes
Nov 29 16:19:34 <dub>	and you get to fuck with what kind of wood/spices are flavouring it
Nov 29 16:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	get out
Nov 29 16:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	smoking takes days.
Nov 29 16:20:17 <dub>	nope
Nov 29 16:20:21 <mircea_popescu>	sigh
Nov 29 16:21:19 <dub>	;;google how to smoke a fish
Nov 29 16:21:20 <gribble>	How to Smoke Salmon - Fish and Seafood Cooking - About.com: <http://fishcooking.about.com/od/smokebrine/ss/smokingfish_all.htm>; How To Smoke Fish: <http://bbq.about.com/c/ht/00/07/How_Smoke_Fish0962934041.htm>; Fish: Smoking - Your Complete Guide to Smoking Fish: <http://bbq.about.com/cs/fish/a/aa030400a.htm>
Nov 29 16:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	about com
Nov 29 16:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	that fucking spamsite ;/
Nov 29 16:26:58 <dub>	yes those links suck
Nov 29 16:27:41 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3gnctsSv20
Nov 29 16:28:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053679 = 1.2588 BTC [-]
Nov 29 16:28:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 755 @ 0.00053648 = 0.405 BTC [-]
Nov 29 16:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053716 = 1.2596 BTC [+]
Nov 29 16:34:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3157 @ 0.00053735 = 1.6964 BTC [+]
Nov 29 16:34:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053741 = 0.5374 BTC [+]
Nov 29 16:34:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24148 @ 0.00053742 = 12.9776 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 16:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053657 = 1.2583 BTC [-]
Nov 29 16:39:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12055 @ 0.00053648 = 6.4673 BTC [-]
Nov 29 16:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053681 = 1.2588 BTC [+]
Nov 29 16:42:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2490 @ 0.00053648 = 1.3358 BTC [-]
Nov 29 16:42:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8965 @ 0.00053168 = 4.7665 BTC [-]
Nov 29 16:52:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00053168 = 5.8485 BTC [-]
Nov 29 16:53:23 <jurov>	okay, so live.coinbr.com has now an inconspicuos combobox added
Nov 29 16:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	cool beans!
Nov 29 16:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	course price doesn't correctly scale now for month and week :D
Nov 29 16:55:38 <jurov>	just a hack for now. should do proper candle + volume graphs
Nov 29 16:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4685 @ 0.00053168 = 2.4909 BTC [-]
Nov 29 16:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1533 @ 0.00053064 = 0.8135 BTC [-]
Nov 29 16:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9882 @ 0.00052957 = 5.2332 BTC [-]
Nov 29 16:57:38 *	Ukto hacks jurov
Nov 29 16:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. it is nice to have
Nov 29 17:00:14 <jurov>	month graph looks like fractal function
Nov 29 17:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	it does have a certain beauty to it
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Nov 29 17:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12318 @ 0.00052957 = 6.5232 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00052939 = 4.0498 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:05:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8371 @ 0.00052897 = 4.428 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14733 @ 0.00053379 = 7.8643 BTC [+]
Nov 29 17:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00053379 = 9.1011 BTC [+]
Nov 29 17:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21417 @ 0.00053379 = 11.4322 BTC [+]
Nov 29 17:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2483 @ 0.00053439 = 1.3269 BTC [+]
Nov 29 17:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10058 @ 0.00052897 = 5.3204 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11786 @ 0.00052897 = 6.2344 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:19:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10714 @ 0.00052716 = 5.648 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 17:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23236 @ 0.00052716 = 12.2491 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6414 @ 0.00052563 = 3.3714 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15297 @ 0.00052563 = 8.0406 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1670 @ 0.00052514 = 0.877 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:45:43 <jurov>	i envy mpoe-pr now... answering 3 simple questions took me 40 minutes :/
Nov 29 17:46:03 <jurov>	how does she manage?
Nov 29 17:46:19 <kakobreklaaa>	type real fast
Nov 29 17:46:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov she's a girl.
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Nov 29 17:46:53 <jurov>	i type reasonably fast... yeah, maybe other body parts are the culprit
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Nov 29 17:53:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13780 @ 0.00052514 = 7.2364 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4270 @ 0.0005247 = 2.2405 BTC [-]
Nov 29 17:54:23 <mircea_popescu>	jurov that's good cause she said "haha. he's got more https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1367272#msg1367272"
Nov 29 17:58:40 <burnside>	;)
Nov 29 17:58:51 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128437.0 that's a nice story.
Nov 29 17:59:28 <mircea_popescu>	and i tell you, the only thing better than having a girl making sandwiches is having a girl making btctalk summaries.
Nov 29 17:59:44 <Diablo-D3>	is that before or after blowjobs?
Nov 29 17:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Nov 29 18:00:11 <mircea_popescu>	burnside re the quoting things : afaik frenode policy is that it's up to each chan owner to set up policy.
Nov 29 18:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	i've been quoting -assets abundantly, such as
Nov 29 18:00:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/bitcoin-wittgenstein-assets/
Nov 29 18:00:49 <Ukto>	kakobreklaaa: take a look at thge my ask/bid (cancel) button now
Nov 29 18:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.0005273 = 10.1769 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:00:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5417 @ 0.00053439 = 2.8948 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	out of maybe two dozen or w/e
Nov 29 18:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1433 @ 0.00053742 = 0.7701 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:01:04 <Ukto>	Not only did I get things visually correct, added even MORE info to the cancel button
Nov 29 18:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053726 = 1.2599 BTC [-]
Nov 29 18:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053732 = 1.26 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 471 @ 0.00053742 = 0.2531 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2089 @ 0.00053747 = 1.1228 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:07:04 <burnside>	MP, sounds good, thx for that.
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Nov 29 18:09:10 <Ukto>	burnside: watch out, MP will quote you talking shitty about other ppl / other ppls sites
Nov 29 18:09:10 <Ukto>	:P
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Nov 29 18:09:50 <burnside>	I try not to talk shitty, karma's a bitch
Nov 29 18:10:02 <Ukto>	iusually odnt
Nov 29 18:10:06 <Ukto>	I know better
Nov 29 18:10:09 <Ukto>	'usually'
Nov 29 18:10:19 <Ukto>	i still think somethings diff. from what I saw tho :/
Nov 29 18:10:56 <burnside>	eh, only thing I could think of is that I shortend the text in the tabs on the market
Nov 29 18:11:06 <Ukto>	mebbe
Nov 29 18:11:11 <Ukto>	I just remember something blarring out at my eyes
Nov 29 18:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 29 18:11:16 <Ukto>	enough that I quickly closed it
Nov 29 18:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	that was a made up quote for humour, ftr.
Nov 29 18:11:25 <Ukto>	u sure
Nov 29 18:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Nov 29 18:11:29 <Ukto>	I said that about someones
Nov 29 18:11:30 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 18:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	i was just trolling you
Nov 29 18:11:43 <Ukto>	if not I said it to someone else
Nov 29 18:11:43 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 18:11:51 <burnside>	lol
Nov 29 18:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	if you did prolly not here tho
Nov 29 18:12:01 <Ukto>	thought it coulda been a diff site
Nov 29 18:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	i literally typed it out
Nov 29 18:12:29 <burnside>	I -know- it's a web 1.0 looking site
Nov 29 18:12:38 <burnside>	so you're not gonna hurt my feelings
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Nov 29 18:13:05 <burnside>	it has 2 images.  the favicon, and the geotrust label.
Nov 29 18:13:26 <Ukto>	actually i found i
Nov 29 18:13:26 <Ukto>	t
Nov 29 18:13:30 <burnside>	I'm just not graphically inclined
Nov 29 18:13:34 <Ukto>	i was talking to someone in pm
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Nov 29 18:13:52 <burnside>	what was the url you were at?
Nov 29 18:14:00 <Ukto>	they mentioned it, i opened it and said 'wow. layout needs a crap ton of work'
Nov 29 18:14:10 <Ukto>	similar enough to 'its kinda shitty' :P
Nov 29 18:14:22 <burnside>	heh.  ;)
Nov 29 18:14:29 <Ukto>	or easily confused with
Nov 29 18:14:30 <Ukto>	hehe
Nov 29 18:14:58 <Ukto>	http://www.btct.co
Nov 29 18:15:00 <Ukto>	yeh, its the same
Nov 29 18:15:05 <burnside>	yup, that's the one.
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Nov 29 18:15:19 *	Ukto just re-looked
Nov 29 18:15:31 <Ukto>	your gonna charge 0.01btc per withdraw and 0.2% trading fee?
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Nov 29 18:16:00 <Ukto>	also.. under what unique about btctc. you write trading of assets in btc...
Nov 29 18:16:06 <Ukto>	arent all asset exchanges doing it that way?
Nov 29 18:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112443.msg1226443#msg1226443 lol. this guy should be on irc
Nov 29 18:16:28 <mircea_popescu>	o wait, he is. hai vampireb
Nov 29 18:16:43 <Ukto>	MP: lol
Nov 29 18:16:44 <Ukto>	nice
Nov 29 18:17:13 <burnside>	Ukto, nah, it's same codebase as litecoinglobal.com, so over there you can see it reads: "trading of assets in ltc"
Nov 29 18:17:15 <burnside>	heh
Nov 29 18:17:34 <burnside>	which on litecoinglobal was unique
Nov 29 18:17:41 <burnside>	not so much for btc-tc
Nov 29 18:17:55 <burnside>	only diff between the two sites is a config file
Nov 29 18:18:11 <burnside>	and I guess the css file
Nov 29 18:18:30 <Ukto>	lol
Nov 29 18:18:59 <burnside>	which I definitely need to hand off to someone that isn't colorblind.
Nov 29 18:19:51 <pigeons>	hey its burnside, the gang's all here
Nov 29 18:20:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00053399 = 1.9224 BTC [-]
Nov 29 18:20:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00053747 = 2.7948 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	more bang for the gang!
Nov 29 18:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00053747 = 15.6404 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:21:48 <Ukto>	burnside: also, on BF, under the held assets page, it gives an est. value per asset based on last trade price
Nov 29 18:21:48 <Ukto>	:)
Nov 29 18:21:51 <burnside>	hey, yeah... re-discovering irc.
Nov 29 18:22:19 <Ukto>	although, i really should add a total total price
Nov 29 18:22:21 *	Ukto ponders
Nov 29 18:23:00 <burnside>	yeah, ltc-global/btc-tc has that in one of the portfolio tabs... definitely good to have.
Nov 29 18:23:12 <burnside>	I need to figure out how to make it take the order book into account tho.
Nov 29 18:23:33 <burnside>	give a value along the lines of "if I want to liquidate now, what would I get?"
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Nov 29 18:25:50 <Ukto>	there, total total done
Nov 29 18:26:11 <Ukto>	burnside: thats not worth the trouble
Nov 29 18:26:12 <Ukto>	i think
Nov 29 18:26:21 <Ukto>	cause alot of times, like when I used glbse
Nov 29 18:26:28 <Ukto>	if I sold off all my JAH shares..
Nov 29 18:26:45 <Ukto>	rather. when my account was *cough*"hacked"*cough* and "someone" sold off all my JAH shares
Nov 29 18:26:48 <Ukto>	it emptied the market
Nov 29 18:26:53 <Ukto>	100% for JAH buys
Nov 29 18:26:59 <burnside>	heh, yeah, no depth
Nov 29 18:27:06 <Ukto>	so its not worth doing honestly
Nov 29 18:27:09 <Ukto>	would be too inacurate
Nov 29 18:27:12 <jcpham>	who knows what the difinition of an asset is?
Nov 29 18:27:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052477 = 1.2306 BTC [-]
Nov 29 18:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22204 @ 0.0005247 = 11.6504 BTC [-]
Nov 29 18:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7319 @ 0.0005244 = 3.8381 BTC [-]
Nov 29 18:27:14 <burnside>	that's what I'm getting at.  part of the value is "how much depth is there backing up this price?"
Nov 29 18:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12232 @ 0.00052392 = 6.4086 BTC [-]
Nov 29 18:27:16 <Ukto>	well, at least not worth anyones time
Nov 29 18:27:19 <jcpham>	*definition
Nov 29 18:27:31 <Ukto>	jcpham: me
Nov 29 18:27:35 *	Ukto is the defenition of asshat
Nov 29 18:27:41 <Ukto>	oh. n/m. i misread that
Nov 29 18:27:41 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 18:27:54 <Ukto>	point in case.
Nov 29 18:27:58 <jcpham>	Anything tangible or intangible that is capable of being owned or controlled to produce value and that is held to have positive economic value is considered an asset.
Nov 29 18:28:10 <jcpham>	tangible or intangible that is capable of being owned or controlled
Nov 29 18:28:15 <jcpham>	owned or controlled
Nov 29 18:28:34 *	Ukto can be owned
Nov 29 18:28:37 <Ukto>	controlled is another story
Nov 29 18:28:41 <jcpham>	it seems to be me that assets based on bitcoin are bullshit
Nov 29 18:28:52 <jcpham>	based on control
Nov 29 18:29:01 <jcpham>	because you lose that once you give up your btc
Nov 29 18:29:04 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham there's an or in there
Nov 29 18:29:07 <Ukto>	what about assets based on mining equipement?
Nov 29 18:29:17 <mircea_popescu>	it's not owned and controlled.
Nov 29 18:29:25 <jcpham>	i think i'm specifically talking about intangibles
Nov 29 18:29:37 <jcpham>	but i have some serious issues with this concept
Nov 29 18:29:47 <jcpham>	bonds and intangibles that bear fruit
Nov 29 18:29:57 <Ukto>	dont get into clinton.. "Your honor, that depends. How do you define 'IS'?"
Nov 29 18:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053659 = 1.2583 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00053685 = 12.8307 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:30:38 <jcpham>	one lesson i forgot somewhere along the way and then re-learned
Nov 29 18:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2081 @ 0.00053747 = 1.1185 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	how;s a btc bond different from a usd bank account ?
Nov 29 18:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	one day the bank tells you to fuck off. what then ?
Nov 29 18:30:46 <jcpham>	if it isn't on the blockchain, it isn't real
Nov 29 18:31:16 <jcpham>	any bitcoins i give to someone to control some thing are gone
Nov 29 18:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	how is this different from a bank account!
Nov 29 18:31:37 <pigeons>	well there is some level of counterparty risk in most things that involve a counterparty
Nov 29 18:31:39 <jcpham>	time
Nov 29 18:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	what time ?
Nov 29 18:32:04 <jcpham>	the passage of time
Nov 29 18:32:08 <mircea_popescu>	i don't get it.
Nov 29 18:32:08 <jcpham>	but your point is very valid
Nov 29 18:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	one day you go to your bank, they tell you to  fuck off. what now ?
Nov 29 18:32:30 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they got one of those "secret" presidential orders to steal your money.
Nov 29 18:32:33 <jcpham>	guess i'm fubar
Nov 29 18:32:40 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they just stole it a la madoff
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Nov 29 18:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they just stole it a la that broker that mixed client funds recently.
Nov 29 18:32:54 <jcpham>	that's why i can't give my btc to any entity
Nov 29 18:33:03 <jcpham>	for any "asset"
Nov 29 18:33:10 <mircea_popescu>	well, not like you have to.
Nov 29 18:33:20 <mircea_popescu>	in btc you have this advantage, that cash makes sense.
Nov 29 18:33:24 <mircea_popescu>	in fiat you pretty much HAVE TO
Nov 29 18:33:32 <jcpham>	yeah
Nov 29 18:34:07 <jcpham>	my only point is that many of the so-called assets, the name of this channel
Nov 29 18:34:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9130 @ 0.00053747 = 4.9071 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9070 @ 0.0005376 = 4.876 BTC [+]
Nov 29 18:34:25 <jcpham>	they aren't exactly all assets in the conventiuonal sense
Nov 29 18:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	for sure not. they're btc assets
Nov 29 18:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	hence bitcoin-assets.
Nov 29 18:34:45 <jcpham>	seems like an oxymoron to me
Nov 29 18:34:56 <Ukto>	yelp. welcome to #bitcoin-asshats. :P
Nov 29 18:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	in that sense, united states is an oxymoron.
Nov 29 18:35:26 <jcpham>	haha
Nov 29 18:35:30 <jcpham>	good call
Nov 29 18:35:39 <Ukto>	lol
Nov 29 18:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	and it gets worse than that
Nov 29 18:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	any woman you marry could be fucking around behind your back
Nov 29 18:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	any children you have may not be yours but the milkman's
Nov 29 18:36:43 <mircea_popescu>	it's a tough world out there.
Nov 29 18:37:07 <mircea_popescu>	( proof http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128215357439.jpg )
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Nov 29 18:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4658 @ 0.0005291 = 2.4645 BTC [-]
Nov 29 18:49:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14341 @ 0.0005291 = 7.5878 BTC [-]
Nov 29 18:50:21 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: cancel button on the order books now works
Nov 29 18:50:23 <Ukto>	however..
Nov 29 18:50:34 <Ukto>	when done you end up on the myassets page
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Nov 29 18:51:14 <Ukto>	but it at lesat works
Nov 29 18:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	hey, anyone knows the people developing planeshift ?
Nov 29 18:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00052895 = 10.1558 BTC [-]
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Nov 29 19:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	As of 19 November 2012, Crypto x Change stopped allowing trades. There have been a couple of incidents in which we are not allowed to make public which have forced us to close the exchange.
Nov 29 19:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Nov 29 19:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	the stupidity of the us government shines through : by making such bs gagged stuff the law of the land there, they've empowered any scammer anywhere
Nov 29 19:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	since anyone can claim this
Nov 29 19:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6551 @ 0.0005291 = 3.4661 BTC [+]
Nov 29 19:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11423 @ 0.0005376 = 6.141 BTC [+]
Nov 29 19:12:10 <dub>	http://i.imgur.com/uQg4I.jpg
Nov 29 19:12:59 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.newgrounds.com/collection/supermariobrosz
Nov 29 19:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053476 = 1.254 BTC [-]
Nov 29 19:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11849 @ 0.00053445 = 6.3327 BTC [-]
Nov 29 19:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00052895 = 1.6926 BTC [-]
Nov 29 19:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17189 @ 0.00052726 = 9.0631 BTC [-]
Nov 29 19:15:30 <Ukto>	best part about a gag order
Nov 29 19:15:57 <Ukto>	is that if your actions of no information lead to a court
Nov 29 19:16:12 <Ukto>	you cannot even defend yourself to the judge or explain the gag order
Nov 29 19:16:30 <Ukto>	that gag order itself is covered
Nov 29 19:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	pff
Nov 29 19:21:41 <mircea_popescu>	is all i have to say
Nov 29 19:22:23 <mircea_popescu>	it's bullshit and you'd have to be an idiot to follow it.
Nov 29 19:30:28 <kakobreklaaa>	catfight https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.msg1367844#msg1367844
Nov 29 19:30:41 <dub>	capslock, the difference between following and not following court orders
Nov 29 19:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	no court has the authority to issue secret orders.
Nov 29 19:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	court proceedings are either public or imaginary.
Nov 29 19:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053229 = 1.2482 BTC [+]
Nov 29 19:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1055 @ 0.00053207 = 0.5613 BTC [-]
Nov 29 19:35:41 <dub>	what about name suppression?
Nov 29 19:37:05 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Nov 29 19:37:46 <dub>	well reality is the court can do most anythign it wants and does
Nov 29 19:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	so can i.
Nov 29 19:37:54 <dub>	including illegal things
Nov 29 19:37:54 <burnside>	heh, catfight.  :P
Nov 29 19:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun.
Nov 29 19:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	the burden of persuasion is on the court/legal system i'm affraid.
Nov 29 19:38:31 <dub>	my fucked by a lady judge comment e.g. relates to a completely illegal ruling I had against me
Nov 29 19:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	so quash it.
Nov 29 19:39:03 <dub>	without $10k's to fight it when I was 18 I'm stuck with it
Nov 29 19:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	sucks.
Nov 29 19:39:27 <dub>	my lawyer said 'yes that is unusual' and that was that
Nov 29 19:39:40 <mircea_popescu>	obviously courts make mistakes. mistakes happen.
Nov 29 19:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	but otherwise... better not start fucking up with the wrong people. so life goes.
Nov 29 19:41:33 <dub>	then the last lady judge I stood before actually apologised as she convicted me
Nov 29 19:41:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol just how many times did you get convicted ?
Nov 29 19:41:58 <dub>	a few :)
Nov 29 19:42:13 <dub>	last one was for drink driving I was only just over teh limit
Nov 29 19:42:32 <dub>	and I offered no bullshit sob story like the preceedign few asshats
Nov 29 19:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
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Nov 29 19:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00053272 = 13.3713 BTC [+]
Nov 29 19:51:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1574 @ 0.00053207 = 0.8375 BTC [-]
Nov 29 19:59:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24921 @ 0.00053207 = 13.2597 BTC [-]
Nov 29 19:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7929 @ 0.00053 = 4.2024 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:02:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9811 @ 0.00053 = 5.1998 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:02:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6889 @ 0.00052726 = 3.6323 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:13:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00053576 = 2.0895 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0005364 = 5.7931 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:21:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00053617 = 0.1609 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:21:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053742 = 1.2602 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 807 @ 0.0005376 = 0.4338 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:21:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00053761 = 7.9566 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5198 @ 0.00053766 = 2.7948 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:23:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053758 = 1.2606 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:23:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8569 @ 0.00053766 = 4.6072 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:23:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23650 @ 0.00053778 = 12.7185 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1486 @ 0.00053778 = 0.7991 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 20:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005337 = 1.2515 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:26:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15810 @ 0.0005334 = 8.4331 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3022 @ 0.00052726 = 1.5934 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4223 @ 0.00052629 = 2.2225 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 435 @ 0.00328634 = 1.4296 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00328068 = 2.2965 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3337 @ 0.0032796 = 10.944 BTC [-]
Nov 29 20:47:29 <Namjies>	woot woot
Nov 29 20:47:43 <Namjies>	I just integrated my new design with WHMCS
Nov 29 20:47:48 <Namjies>	It now looks neat
Nov 29 20:48:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053753 = 1.2605 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19172 @ 0.00053768 = 10.3084 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5383 @ 0.00053778 = 2.8949 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5174 @ 0.00053778 = 2.7825 BTC [+]
Nov 29 20:52:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7726 @ 0.0005378 = 4.155 BTC [+]
Nov 29 21:02:42 <kakobreklaaa>	lol http://shrani.si/f/2i/6F/2gHEulwJ/kalm2.png
Nov 29 21:04:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00053126 = 4.5954 BTC [-]
Nov 29 21:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052641 = 1.2344 BTC [-]
Nov 29 21:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6405 @ 0.00052629 = 3.3709 BTC [-]
Nov 29 21:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053235 = 1.2484 BTC [+]
Nov 29 21:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10522 @ 0.00053234 = 5.6013 BTC [-]
Nov 29 21:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9920 @ 0.00052807 = 5.2385 BTC [-]
Nov 29 21:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/visual-culture-test-the-naked-woman/
Nov 29 21:26:56 <mircea_popescu>	guess the source, win 1 bitcoin.
Nov 29 21:30:37 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk07gVXAQKE around 0:40
Nov 29 21:31:15 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: ^
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Nov 29 21:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 well, post there, and name it would you
Nov 29 21:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	i dun have flash
Nov 29 21:34:32 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: use html5 then
Nov 29 21:34:45 <Diablo-D3>	youtube has supported it for years
Nov 29 21:34:56 <mircea_popescu>	i am lol. not all stuff shows tho. but srsly, leave comment.
Nov 29 21:35:03 <Diablo-D3>	I have no clue what th eguy is saying, btw
Nov 29 21:35:10 <Diablo-D3>	apparently its a polish translation of monty python
Nov 29 21:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol so howdja find it?
Nov 29 21:36:25 <Diablo-D3>	I cant find it without the fucking polish
Nov 29 21:36:32 <Diablo-D3>	Ive seen the episode
Nov 29 21:36:54 <mircea_popescu>	aite, well, post it as a comment, get your bitcoin.
Nov 29 21:37:43 <Diablo-D3>	posted.
Nov 29 21:38:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00053528 = 8.2433 BTC [+]
Nov 29 21:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14849 @ 0.00053285 = 7.9123 BTC [-]
Nov 29 21:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7051 @ 0.00053032 = 3.7393 BTC [-]
Nov 29 21:38:59 <kakobreklaaa>	you can see its MP by the quality of image
Nov 29 21:39:25 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, or the content
Nov 29 21:39:35 <Diablo-D3>	man, why the fuck cant I find this in the original english
Nov 29 21:40:05 <Ukto>	kakobreklaaa: got the cancel stuff all done for the order books
Nov 29 21:40:11 <kakobreklaaa>	ok
Nov 29 21:40:12 <Ukto>	also included the number of shares on the btton
Nov 29 21:40:19 <kakobreklaaa>	im not your boss you know
Nov 29 21:40:22 <Ukto>	so you know how many are yours
Nov 29 21:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2362 @ 0.00053032 = 1.2526 BTC [-]
Nov 29 21:40:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7238 @ 0.00052937 = 3.8316 BTC [-]
Nov 29 21:40:26 <Ukto>	nah, it was a great idea
Nov 29 21:40:34 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: posted comment
Nov 29 21:40:34 <Ukto>	and it gave me a reason to fixup the page more
Nov 29 21:40:37 <Ukto>	looks much better now
Nov 29 21:41:02 <Ukto>	i also added pagination && searching to the trade history page
Nov 29 21:41:05 *	Diablo-D3 counts 18 stock positions he has to close
Nov 29 21:41:24 <Ukto>	so ppl can quickly sort to X assets, or Y date just by typing
Nov 29 21:42:03 <Ukto>	if you guys come up wiht anything else, lemme know. :)
Nov 29 21:42:10 <Ukto>	otherwise. i will start on api
Nov 29 21:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053749 = 1.2604 BTC [+]
Nov 29 21:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7755 @ 0.0005378 = 4.1706 BTC [+]
Nov 29 21:42:26 <Ukto>	at least, start debating how I am going to do the api
Nov 29 21:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 and answered!
Nov 29 21:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaaa maybe you should wear moare leather and a whip
Nov 29 21:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	people would make a bee line for your uservices
Nov 29 21:44:22 <mircea_popescu>	and by people i mean web developers.
Nov 29 21:44:28 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: bleh, I cant reply to a reply
Nov 29 21:44:41 <Ukto>	LOL
Nov 29 21:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 it's not nested, you just reply
Nov 29 21:44:46 *	Ukto shoots MP
Nov 29 21:44:46 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 29 21:44:52 <Diablo-D3>	looks nested
Nov 29 21:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	i only get nested for i am god.
Nov 29 21:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	commoners are unnested
Nov 29 21:45:50 <kakobreklaaa>	right now i need to whip myself.
Nov 29 21:46:33 <Diablo-D3>	whip it / whip it good
Nov 29 21:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/visual-culture-test-the-naked-woman/#comment-90762 lol
Nov 29 21:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	too late
Nov 29 21:50:40 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Nov 29 21:51:23 <mircea_popescu>	smickles will prolly be all awwww when he sees this tomorrow
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Nov 29 21:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053749 = 1.2604 BTC [-]
Nov 29 21:58:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4484 @ 0.0005378 = 2.4115 BTC [+]
Nov 29 21:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3653 @ 0.00053783 = 1.9647 BTC [+]
Nov 29 21:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00053784 = 8.1483 BTC [+]
Nov 29 21:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00053785 = 6.3735 BTC [+]
Nov 29 21:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5458 @ 0.00053794 = 2.9361 BTC [+]
Nov 29 22:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052956 = 1.2418 BTC [-]
Nov 29 22:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4796 @ 0.00052937 = 2.5389 BTC [-]
Nov 29 22:04:45 <smickles>	well, damn, i just had to be taking care of my daughter, rather than refreshing my rss feed of trilema
Nov 29 22:06:49 <kakobreklaaa>	those meddling kids!
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Nov 29 22:10:40 <smickles>	indeed
Nov 29 22:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 29 22:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	PUNISH HER
Nov 29 22:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	you know, of all the things i could be after i die, i guess "that voice in the head of psychopaths telling them what to do" wouldn't be the worst...
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Nov 29 22:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053778 = 1.2611 BTC [+]
Nov 29 22:21:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23855 @ 0.00053794 = 12.8326 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 22:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053386 = 1.2519 BTC [-]
Nov 29 22:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3255 @ 0.00053371 = 1.7372 BTC [-]
Nov 29 22:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053736 = 1.2601 BTC [+]
Nov 29 22:46:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9255 @ 0.00053727 = 4.9724 BTC [-]
Nov 29 22:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11082 @ 0.00053727 = 5.954 BTC [-]
Nov 29 22:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9495 @ 0.00053371 = 5.0676 BTC [-]
Nov 29 22:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12373 @ 0.00053028 = 6.5612 BTC [-]
Nov 29 22:53:19 <kakobreklaaa>	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-29/dollar-less-iranians-discover-virtual-currency
Nov 29 22:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31064 @ 0.00053028 = 16.4726 BTC [-]
Nov 29 22:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2513 @ 0.00337226 = 8.4745 BTC [+]
Nov 29 22:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Nov 29 22:59:52 <Namjies>	ahem... right, mircea
Nov 29 22:59:57 <Namjies>	about the voice thing
Nov 29 23:01:07 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Nov 29 23:04:46 <Namjies>	ah, nvm, just commenting about your earlier comment
Nov 29 23:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	o lol
Nov 29 23:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	i'd try to keep it funny, too
Nov 29 23:16:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11863 @ 0.00053028 = 6.2907 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:16:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5737 @ 0.00052973 = 3.0391 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11063 @ 0.00052973 = 5.8604 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:19:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116 @ 0.00052937 = 0.0614 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:20:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3371 @ 0.00052885 = 1.7828 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:25:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00053251 = 3.8873 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 23:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00052885 = 3.7284 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00053251 = 4.8458 BTC [+]
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Nov 29 23:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7179 @ 0.00052885 = 3.7966 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15971 @ 0.00052671 = 8.4121 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 5792 @ 0.0022 = 12.7424 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:44:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7379 @ 0.00052671 = 3.8866 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:44:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22021 @ 0.00052646 = 11.5932 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3921 @ 0.00052646 = 2.0642 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10929 @ 0.00052629 = 5.7518 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:51:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4179 @ 0.00052629 = 2.1994 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2321 @ 0.00052599 = 1.2208 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25507 @ 0.00052715 = 13.446 BTC [+]
Nov 29 23:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6943 @ 0.00052599 = 3.6519 BTC [-]
Nov 29 23:58:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00052599 = 4.9443 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:04:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00053251 = 6.3369 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:04:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00053359 = 5.7895 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00053471 = 5.7214 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 00:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3285 @ 0.00336348 = 11.049 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5100 @ 0.00328053 = 16.7307 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:19:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1023 @ 0.0032796 = 3.355 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:23:25 *	da2ce7 (~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Nov 30 00:25:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27443 @ 0.00052599 = 14.4347 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00052599 = 1.6043 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00052927 = 3.0962 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1916 @ 0.00053471 = 1.0245 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:36:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0005351 = 2.6755 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005379 = 1.2614 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4305 @ 0.00053794 = 2.3158 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053775 = 1.261 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3698 @ 0.00053794 = 1.9893 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2909 @ 0.00053794 = 1.5649 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:44:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00053796 = 12.0503 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:45:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00053798 = 10.9479 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:45:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15741 @ 0.00053802 = 8.469 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 00:53:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15859 @ 0.00053802 = 8.5325 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.0005381 = 15.9816 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:53:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.0005382 = 3.283 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7473 @ 0.00053824 = 4.0223 BTC [+]
Nov 30 00:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.0032796 = 7.2151 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053525 = 1.2552 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4484 @ 0.0005351 = 2.3994 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:59:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052676 = 1.2353 BTC [-]
Nov 30 00:59:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11429 @ 0.00052651 = 6.0175 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 01:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3244 @ 0.00052651 = 1.708 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:04:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.0005261 = 3.5775 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:07:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8957 @ 0.0005261 = 4.7123 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 01:12:37 <kakobreklaaa>	>>I read that you needed a WOT account... but when I google that only world of tanks comes up.
Nov 30 01:12:39 <kakobreklaaa>	lol
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Nov 30 01:29:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11099 @ 0.0005261 = 5.8392 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4951 @ 0.00052653 = 2.6069 BTC [+]
Nov 30 01:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052645 = 1.2345 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14349 @ 0.00052653 = 7.5552 BTC [+]
Nov 30 01:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8756 @ 0.00052716 = 4.6158 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 01:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052634 = 1.2343 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11987 @ 0.00052599 = 6.305 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052715 = 1.2362 BTC [+]
Nov 30 01:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6965 @ 0.00052716 = 3.6717 BTC [+]
Nov 30 01:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10640 @ 0.00052942 = 5.633 BTC [+]
Nov 30 01:44:50 <Diablo-D3>	damn mp left
Nov 30 01:44:59 <Diablo-D3>	I was going to ask him when I could buy women with bitcoins
Nov 30 01:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052628 = 1.2341 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:49:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14424 @ 0.00052599 = 7.5869 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00052731 = 8.1997 BTC [+]
Nov 30 01:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7582 @ 0.00052599 = 3.9881 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7618 @ 0.00052533 = 4.002 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:59:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1040 @ 0.0032796 = 3.4108 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:59:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00327181 = 8.0159 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:59:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00326516 = 1.4693 BTC [-]
Nov 30 01:59:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 113 @ 0.0032648 = 0.3689 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 02:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052934 = 1.2413 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8845 @ 0.00052942 = 4.6827 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:06:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052882 = 1.2401 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:06:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8305 @ 0.00052877 = 4.3914 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:11:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052933 = 1.2413 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1997 @ 0.00052942 = 1.0573 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00052942 = 4.0501 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:21:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005294 = 1.2414 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:21:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4105 @ 0.00052942 = 2.1733 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120N] 1 @ 0.25818237 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120N] 1 @ 0.21314225 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:26:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13120 @ 0.00052942 = 6.946 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052904 = 1.2406 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6936 @ 0.00052877 = 3.6675 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:29:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052928 = 1.2412 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7143 @ 0.00052942 = 3.7816 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:29:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15969 @ 0.00053393 = 8.5263 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 02:33:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10431 @ 0.00053393 = 5.5694 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:33:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16469 @ 0.00053824 = 8.8643 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 02:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9368 @ 0.00053365 = 4.9992 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2058 @ 0.00053824 = 1.1077 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:43:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00053833 = 1.2112 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00053834 = 6.3524 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 02:47:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052893 = 1.2403 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:47:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36 @ 0.00052877 = 0.019 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6119 @ 0.00052855 = 3.2342 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053801 = 1.2616 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:51:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00053834 = 2.261 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7055 @ 0.00053841 = 3.7985 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:54:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052886 = 1.2402 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12655 @ 0.00052855 = 6.6888 BTC [-]
Nov 30 02:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053835 = 1.2624 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2545 @ 0.00053841 = 1.3703 BTC [+]
Nov 30 02:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12610 @ 0.00053845 = 6.7899 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6292 @ 0.00053845 = 3.3879 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:01:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2058 @ 0.00053857 = 1.1084 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 03:20:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3042 @ 0.00053857 = 1.6383 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:20:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14358 @ 0.00053859 = 7.7331 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:21:09 *	Tritonio (~Tritonio@nl5x.mullvad.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Nov 30 03:31:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14592 @ 0.00053859 = 7.8591 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:31:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 308 @ 0.0005386 = 0.1659 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053725 = 1.2599 BTC [-]
Nov 30 03:35:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00053724 = 8.0317 BTC [-]
Nov 30 03:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32763 @ 0.0005365 = 17.5773 BTC [-]
Nov 30 03:35:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6892 @ 0.00053524 = 3.6889 BTC [-]
Nov 30 03:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053828 = 1.2623 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18055 @ 0.0005386 = 9.7244 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 03:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 715 @ 0.0005386 = 0.3851 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26158 @ 0.00053861 = 14.089 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:43:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8327 @ 0.00053873 = 4.486 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:44:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053551 = 1.2558 BTC [-]
Nov 30 03:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15955 @ 0.00053524 = 8.5398 BTC [-]
Nov 30 03:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00053644 = 1.6093 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053526 = 1.2552 BTC [-]
Nov 30 03:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7055 @ 0.00053524 = 3.7761 BTC [-]
Nov 30 03:54:32 <Freemart>	;;gpg eauth MrFreemart
Nov 30 03:54:32 <gribble>	Request successful for user MrFreemart, hostmask Freemart!5850f45b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.80.244.91. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/A060A6F4DF1198D5
Nov 30 03:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053855 = 1.2629 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:55:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4444 @ 0.00053873 = 2.3941 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9211 @ 0.00053878 = 4.9627 BTC [+]
Nov 30 03:57:28 <Freemart>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:6132ffd1c3c4468e40303d844f3e30661bc34617054f7cc5e3fa03c8b41c376
Nov 30 03:57:28 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
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Nov 30 04:10:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053526 = 1.2552 BTC [-]
Nov 30 04:10:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6798 @ 0.00053524 = 3.6386 BTC [-]
Nov 30 04:10:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5557 @ 0.0005333 = 2.9635 BTC [-]
Nov 30 04:11:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053848 = 1.2627 BTC [+]
Nov 30 04:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14989 @ 0.00053878 = 8.0758 BTC [+]
Nov 30 04:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 266 @ 0.0005388 = 0.1433 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 04:26:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005385 = 1.2628 BTC [-]
Nov 30 04:26:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33711 @ 0.0005388 = 18.1635 BTC [+]
Nov 30 04:33:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005336 = 1.2513 BTC [-]
Nov 30 04:33:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10143 @ 0.0005333 = 5.4093 BTC [-]
Nov 30 04:33:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2852 @ 0.00052855 = 1.5074 BTC [-]
Nov 30 04:37:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13110 @ 0.00052754 = 6.916 BTC [-]
Nov 30 04:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4051 @ 0.0005388 = 2.1827 BTC [+]
Nov 30 04:37:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2389 @ 0.00053881 = 1.2872 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 04:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053846 = 1.2627 BTC [-]
Nov 30 04:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24255 @ 0.00053881 = 13.0688 BTC [+]
Nov 30 05:05:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00052771 = 16.7284 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 05:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00052771 = 2.4011 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:11:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.00052901 = 7.6442 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 05:16:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052757 = 1.2372 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:16:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00052752 = 3.297 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 05:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052615 = 1.2338 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:30:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00052596 = 9.5199 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1632 @ 0.00052533 = 0.8573 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:30:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 773 @ 0.00052474 = 0.4056 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5427 @ 0.00052474 = 2.8478 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12654 @ 0.00052453 = 6.6374 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:42:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11496 @ 0.00052453 = 6.03 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 05:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00052453 = 5.3502 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00052451 = 8.2873 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.0005244 = 1.7043 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18657 @ 0.0005244 = 9.7837 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:48:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7015 @ 0.00052421 = 3.6773 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:49:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052656 = 1.2348 BTC [+]
Nov 30 05:49:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10505 @ 0.00052662 = 5.5321 BTC [+]
Nov 30 05:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00052901 = 1.5606 BTC [+]
Nov 30 05:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00053074 = 1.3269 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 05:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053061 = 1.2443 BTC [-]
Nov 30 05:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00053074 = 14.8342 BTC [+]
Nov 30 05:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22005 @ 0.00053634 = 11.8022 BTC [+]
Nov 30 05:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 958 @ 0.0032648 = 3.1277 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:02:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19178 @ 0.00053258 = 10.2138 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052842 = 1.2391 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052842 = 1.2391 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:20:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3910 @ 0.00052823 = 2.0654 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00052823 = 2.0337 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053081 = 1.2447 BTC [+]
Nov 30 06:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053093 = 1.245 BTC [+]
Nov 30 06:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8410 @ 0.00053116 = 4.4671 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 06:40:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052858 = 1.2395 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:40:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052826 = 1.2388 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13940 @ 0.00052823 = 7.3635 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00052729 = 5.5365 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3179 @ 0.00052421 = 1.6665 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053111 = 1.2455 BTC [+]
Nov 30 06:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053111 = 1.2455 BTC [+]
Nov 30 06:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15581 @ 0.00053116 = 8.276 BTC [+]
Nov 30 06:45:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053109 = 1.2454 BTC [-]
Nov 30 06:45:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 859 @ 0.00053116 = 0.4563 BTC [+]
Nov 30 06:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8446 @ 0.00053258 = 4.4982 BTC [+]
Nov 30 06:49:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18676 @ 0.00053258 = 9.9465 BTC [+]
Nov 30 06:49:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8576 @ 0.00053406 = 4.5801 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 07:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00333051 = 4.9958 BTC [+]
Nov 30 07:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052448 = 1.2299 BTC [-]
Nov 30 07:22:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9989 @ 0.00052421 = 5.2363 BTC [-]
Nov 30 07:29:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052911 = 1.2408 BTC [+]
Nov 30 07:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12455 @ 0.00052876 = 6.5857 BTC [-]
Nov 30 07:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052943 = 1.2415 BTC [+]
Nov 30 07:36:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5755 @ 0.00052949 = 3.0472 BTC [+]
Nov 30 07:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052878 = 1.24 BTC [-]
Nov 30 07:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4755 @ 0.00052876 = 2.5143 BTC [-]
Nov 30 07:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27598 @ 0.00052876 = 14.5927 BTC [-]
Nov 30 07:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3602 @ 0.00052771 = 1.9008 BTC [-]
Nov 30 07:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052914 = 1.2408 BTC [+]
Nov 30 07:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24503 @ 0.00052918 = 12.9665 BTC [+]
Nov 30 07:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052898 = 1.2405 BTC [-]
Nov 30 07:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10147 @ 0.00052918 = 5.3696 BTC [+]
Nov 30 07:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3608 @ 0.00052949 = 1.9104 BTC [+]
Nov 30 08:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1609 @ 0.00052435 = 0.8437 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:05:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14917 @ 0.00052421 = 7.8196 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:05:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18134 @ 0.00052419 = 9.5057 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:05:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19818 @ 0.00052392 = 10.383 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:05:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11171 @ 0.00052372 = 5.8505 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:05:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9260 @ 0.00052361 = 4.8486 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:06:00 <jurov>	morning
Nov 30 08:06:16 <jurov>	so, apparently i need to slap "The use of this site is for educational and entertainment purposes only." on coinbr
Nov 30 08:06:32 <jurov>	to evade accusations that i'm "borderline scammer", eh?
Nov 30 08:07:57 <jurov>	while the same person says that that to say about myself that i'm a broker, i need some certificate, lol
Nov 30 08:09:20 <jurov>	oh, and i also need insurance. usagi, you there?
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Nov 30 08:11:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052379 = 1.2283 BTC [+]
Nov 30 08:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052362 = 1.2279 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:11:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8740 @ 0.00052361 = 4.5764 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:11:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15192 @ 0.00052354 = 7.9536 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:11:24 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1367797#msg1367797
Nov 30 08:13:09 <jurov>	so, mircea_popescu, of it all comes that we should get some legal affidavit that that nothing we trade is real.
Nov 30 08:13:19 <jurov>	 then we can call ourselves "security exchange" and "broker"
Nov 30 08:14:49 <pigeons>	people used to put that on video game ROM download sites
Nov 30 08:15:00 <pigeons>	"This site is for educational purposes only"
Nov 30 08:15:17 <pigeons>	yeah i'm sure those words are magic
Nov 30 08:15:28 <pigeons>	poof, you're safe :)
Nov 30 08:16:32 <pigeons>	wow borderline scammer accusation from the operator of a borderline exchange in a borderline currency
Nov 30 08:16:49 <jurov>	yeah borderline trolling
Nov 30 08:18:05 <jurov>	and we need  borderline insurance, don't forget :P
Nov 30 08:18:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13607 @ 0.00052354 = 7.1238 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:18:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14043 @ 0.00052337 = 7.3497 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:20:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052435 = 1.2296 BTC [+]
Nov 30 08:20:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1755 @ 0.00052448 = 0.9205 BTC [+]
Nov 30 08:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
Nov 30 08:20:36 <pigeons>	just use CPA oh wiat
Nov 30 08:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol mpex has self-issued court immunity
Nov 30 08:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	if that's not good enough i dunno what is.
Nov 30 08:21:18 <jurov>	and I'm going to my tax directorate branch tomorrow, to get official acknowledgement that i'm doing imaginary trades
Nov 30 08:21:24 <jurov>	only
Nov 30 08:22:22 <jurov>	oh, can we have this immunity extended to coinbr?
Nov 30 08:22:31 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Nov 30 08:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	it's only for white background websites
Nov 30 08:23:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00052339 = 1.0991 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway
Nov 30 08:25:08 <mircea_popescu>	the argument is pretty retarded, "your honor, I thought jurov was a broker" "well... did you wire him money ?"
Nov 30 08:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	"no, he wouldn't take money"
Nov 30 08:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	"this makes sense"
Nov 30 08:30:10 <jurov>	oh and what if hacker sells all coinbr holdings? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.msg1367844#msg1367844
Nov 30 08:31:12 <jurov>	o any mistakes you make are far harder to fix than if you were running your own exchange where you probably would eat a BTC loss out of the wallet but could easily revert to a previous backup.
Nov 30 08:31:23 <jurov>	i cant even...
Nov 30 08:32:48 <jurov>	so if i empty btct wallet, they'll just revert to previous backup, and all will be dandy
Nov 30 08:33:00 <jurov>	why didn't i think of such?
Nov 30 08:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	this is a bizzare argument
Nov 30 08:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	seems to me the broker-exchange structure is inherently safer
Nov 30 08:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	than just the straight exchange. amply displayed in the case of icbit
Nov 30 08:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	they weren't expecting a user to go through a broker, and thus have actual proof of their bs shady dealings
Nov 30 08:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	i think in general there's this expectation on the part of website owners that they have license to alter history
Nov 30 08:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	as displayed for instance by dwolla.
Nov 30 08:36:27 <jurov>	it's a business model for some, like betsofbitcoin
Nov 30 08:37:49 <jurov>	okay. gotta go sweat it off to the gym
Nov 30 08:37:50 <jurov>	later
Nov 30 08:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 245 @ 0.00052339 = 0.1282 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2999 @ 0.00052337 = 1.5696 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00052327 = 6.9333 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:41:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2496 @ 0.00052306 = 1.3056 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:45:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00052306 = 4.1322 BTC [-]
Nov 30 08:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00052306 = 2.6153 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 09:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2047 @ 0.00052306 = 1.0707 BTC [-]
Nov 30 09:05:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17553 @ 0.00052303 = 9.1807 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 09:12:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005242 = 1.2292 BTC [+]
Nov 30 09:12:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13695 @ 0.00052448 = 7.1828 BTC [+]
Nov 30 09:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16360 @ 0.00052749 = 8.6297 BTC [+]
Nov 30 09:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00333969 = 3.1727 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 09:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052722 = 1.2363 BTC [-]
Nov 30 09:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1455 @ 0.00052749 = 0.7675 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 09:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052646 = 1.2345 BTC [-]
Nov 30 09:32:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052642 = 1.2345 BTC [-]
Nov 30 09:32:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00052628 = 2.0414 BTC [-]
Nov 30 09:34:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5893 @ 0.00052628 = 3.1014 BTC [-]
Nov 30 09:34:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6757 @ 0.00052303 = 3.5341 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 09:37:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 239 @ 0.00052303 = 0.125 BTC [-]
Nov 30 09:37:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00052286 = 4.1306 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 09:43:57 <neoChat>	http://www.neochat.co.uk - New chat community, make it your new home!!!
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Nov 30 09:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Nov 30 09:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00052286 = 8.8886 BTC [-]
Nov 30 09:52:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11368 @ 0.00052265 = 5.9415 BTC [-]
Nov 30 10:00:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00052265 = 3.8937 BTC [-]
Nov 30 10:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11460 @ 0.00052265 = 5.9896 BTC [-]
Nov 30 10:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17849 @ 0.00052265 = 9.3288 BTC [-]
Nov 30 10:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005268 = 1.2353 BTC [+]
Nov 30 10:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2 @ 0.00052686 = 0.0011 BTC [+]
Nov 30 10:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052679 = 1.2353 BTC [-]
Nov 30 10:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9555 @ 0.00052686 = 5.0341 BTC [+]
Nov 30 10:13:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1918 @ 0.00052541 = 1.0077 BTC [-]
Nov 30 10:13:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14040 @ 0.00052686 = 7.3971 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 10:19:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3350 @ 0.00334387 = 11.202 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 10:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052293 = 1.2263 BTC [-]
Nov 30 10:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18751 @ 0.00052265 = 9.8002 BTC [-]
Nov 30 10:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4804 @ 0.00052262 = 2.5107 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 10:30:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052277 = 1.2259 BTC [+]
Nov 30 10:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6773 @ 0.00052262 = 3.5397 BTC [-]
Nov 30 10:36:57 <leotreasure>	http://soundcloud.com/djleo/bitcoin-bomb
Nov 30 10:40:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052303 = 1.2265 BTC [+]
Nov 30 10:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41700 @ 0.00052312 = 21.8141 BTC [+]
Nov 30 10:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 903 @ 0.00052686 = 0.4758 BTC [+]
Nov 30 10:40:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7852 @ 0.00052749 = 4.1419 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 11:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00052421 = 0.5242 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052422 = 1.2293 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:00:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9655 @ 0.0005243 = 5.0621 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:03:20 *	Ukto fiddles with everyone
Nov 30 11:04:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052276 = 1.2259 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:04:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15455 @ 0.00052262 = 8.0771 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052413 = 1.2291 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6755 @ 0.0005243 = 3.5416 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:13:45 *	jurov diddles with Ukto
Nov 30 11:14:06 *	Ukto doodles.
Nov 30 11:14:14 <Ukto>	man
Nov 30 11:14:17 <Ukto>	I am stuck :/
Nov 30 11:14:23 <Ukto>	have sto setup the json api..
Nov 30 11:14:30 <Ukto>	and trying to think of a really clever way to do it
Nov 30 11:15:06 <Ukto>	rather than just sent api_key, api_pin, cmd, array(key=value)
Nov 30 11:15:19 <Ukto>	mebbe its just the best way
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Nov 30 11:15:21 *	jurov solved that just by adding "@expose json" to a controller
Nov 30 11:15:35 <Ukto>	dont expose yourself in here
Nov 30 11:16:22 <jurov>	lol i expose controller, not myself. i'm only pulling strings.
Nov 30 11:16:45 <Ukto>	I honestly wish I could see GLBSE's api command list again. cant find it on google anywhere. not because i wanna just copy it, but because I want ppl to be able to use old glbse trading scripts  by just changing the url
Nov 30 11:16:56 <Ukto>	yeah, thats what they all say :P
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Nov 30 11:18:20 <jurov>	maybe try making it similar to mtgox
Nov 30 11:18:28 <Ukto>	no
Nov 30 11:18:39 <Ukto>	I stay away from that rats nest of api crazyness
Nov 30 11:18:44 <Ukto>	thats what ppl hte
Nov 30 11:18:45 <Ukto>	hate
Nov 30 11:18:48 <Ukto>	its all over the place
Nov 30 11:18:56 <Ukto>	i was annoyed at having to figure it out just to use it
Nov 30 11:25:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052273 = 1.2258 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 152 @ 0.00052262 = 0.0794 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:25:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14872 @ 0.00052246 = 7.77 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10431 @ 0.00052244 = 5.4496 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:30:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052408 = 1.229 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:30:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 490 @ 0.0005243 = 0.2569 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8315 @ 0.0005268 = 4.3803 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:31:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24655 @ 0.0005268 = 12.9883 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:31:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3780 @ 0.00052749 = 1.9939 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3065 @ 0.00052789 = 1.618 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 11:38:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052246 = 1.2252 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8119 @ 0.00052244 = 4.2417 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:38:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9717 @ 0.00052241 = 5.0763 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 11:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052774 = 1.2376 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:49:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6135 @ 0.00052789 = 3.2386 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:49:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1920 @ 0.00052847 = 1.0147 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 11:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052253 = 1.2253 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4756 @ 0.00052241 = 2.4846 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 11:55:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052245 = 1.2251 BTC [+]
Nov 30 11:55:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15361 @ 0.00052241 = 8.0247 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:55:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00052232 = 0.7835 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:55:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13530 @ 0.00052205 = 7.0633 BTC [-]
Nov 30 11:58:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00052205 = 1.8011 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 12:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1961 @ 0.00052205 = 1.0237 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1763 @ 0.00052192 = 0.9201 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14737 @ 0.00052192 = 7.6915 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:04:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4224 @ 0.0005218 = 2.2041 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:07:17 <Ukto>	fucking glbse api system. now that I see it, there is no way I will use 50,00 fake subdirs for api calls
Nov 30 12:07:18 <Ukto>	just retarded
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Nov 30 12:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i was gonna say glbse system was retarded
Nov 30 12:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	i chose to stfu, on the theory that unless you're an idiot you'll figure it out yourself in short order.
Nov 30 12:08:44 <Ukto>	im just gonna go with my original idea.
Nov 30 12:09:05 <Ukto>	api_key, api_pin, cmd, array(key=value)
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Nov 30 12:09:19 <kakobreklaaa>	50,00 fake subdirs?
Nov 30 12:09:54 <Ukto>	yeh. api/account/assset/list   api/account/balance  api/market/buy market/order/cancel asset/depth market/orders history/bitcoin history/assets
Nov 30 12:09:55 <Ukto>	etc etc etc
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Nov 30 12:10:09 <Ukto>	instead of just sending a fucking command key
Nov 30 12:10:22 <Ukto>	hi, lets bloat mod_rewrite instead!
Nov 30 12:10:23 <kakobreklaaa>	hm, perhaps it was hanled by a router?
Nov 30 12:10:28 <Ukto>	no
Nov 30 12:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052836 = 1.239 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:10:33 <Ukto>	he wasnt that advanced
Nov 30 12:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21528 @ 0.00052847 = 11.3769 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7182 @ 0.00052949 = 3.8028 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 145 @ 0.00053076 = 0.077 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:10:39 <Ukto>	he could barely get ruby to work
Nov 30 12:10:45 <Ukto>	wasnt even use rails
Nov 30 12:10:52 <Ukto>	using some other wtf off shoot
Nov 30 12:11:00 <kakobreklaaa>	dunno
Nov 30 12:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	even if you do it with mod
Nov 30 12:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	rewrite, it's not particularly sane
Nov 30 12:11:19 <kakobreklaaa>	you dont need mod
Nov 30 12:11:23 <Ukto>	your just writing the cmd if you do it with mod
Nov 30 12:11:24 <Ukto>	no reaosn to
Nov 30 12:11:29 <Ukto>	just let the client send the cmd directly
Nov 30 12:11:31 <Ukto>	and eb done with it
Nov 30 12:11:47 <Ukto>	url should just be /api/
Nov 30 12:11:53 <Ukto>	and send your fucking json api call
Nov 30 12:12:36 <Ukto>	he made api calls to create assets.
Nov 30 12:12:37 <Ukto>	wtf
Nov 30 12:12:50 <Ukto>	just screams BAD IDEA
Nov 30 12:12:58 <kakobreklaaa>	yes you need about 10k calls of that a day
Nov 30 12:13:28 <Ukto>	account/asset/new
Nov 30 12:13:36 <Ukto>	and account/asset/issue
Nov 30 12:13:38 <kakobreklaaa>	where are you reading this anyway
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Nov 30 12:13:45 <Ukto>	https://gitorious.org/black-market/black-market-client/blobs/3a2403d300329d9b2571a7d47a9edf68fb60418b/bmc.py
Nov 30 12:13:53 <Ukto>	code from someones python script
Nov 30 12:13:56 <Ukto>	they made for it
Nov 30 12:14:05 <Ukto>	most complete api cmd reference I could find
Nov 30 12:14:26 <Ukto>	although
Nov 30 12:14:37 <Ukto>	there are some he's missing, but thats because nefario never told anyone but me. heh
Nov 30 12:15:07 <kakobreklaaa>	you get internet points +1
Nov 30 12:15:16 <Ukto>	no no
Nov 30 12:15:23 <Ukto>	thats a -, I assure you
Nov 30 12:15:25 <Ukto>	because he didnt post them
Nov 30 12:16:22 <Ukto>	you guys think api key + api pin is secure enough?
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Nov 30 12:16:31 <Ukto>	was debating letting users also do 2fa
Nov 30 12:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053047 = 1.244 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17955 @ 0.00053076 = 9.5298 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:18:11 <kakobreklaaa>	for starters
Nov 30 12:18:11 <kakobreklaaa>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112070.0
Nov 30 12:18:53 <kakobreklaaa>	and
Nov 30 12:18:54 <kakobreklaaa>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122006.0
Nov 30 12:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00333229 = 2.9991 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:20:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00333413 = 2.834 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:20:48 <Ukto>	s'pose i could make it difficult on ppl, and use gpg signed stuff
Nov 30 12:23:27 <pigeons>	Ukto: that python script is actually the original official glbse client
Nov 30 12:24:04 <Ukto>	that explains why its so complete
Nov 30 12:24:07 <kakobreklaaa>	oh yes i thought it looked familliar at first glance
Nov 30 12:26:08 <pigeons>	"black market" unless a lawyer you meet on the train tells you its illegal
Nov 30 12:26:54 <Ukto>	lol
Nov 30 12:27:12 <kuzetsa>	Ukto: cool. I see that you have the API structure now. Planning on implementing an API-compatible platform? At least if you live in the 'states that should be fully legal to do ---> http://www.intomobile.com/2012/06/01/judge-oracle-v-google-rules-apis-not-copyrightable/
Nov 30 12:27:51 <Ukto>	LOL
Nov 30 12:28:03 <kuzetsa>	well... leagal minus any SEC regulatory issues you run into
Nov 30 12:28:05 <Ukto>	i never saw that one. nice oracle
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Nov 30 12:28:11 <kuzetsa>	huh?
Nov 30 12:28:15 <kuzetsa>	no, other way around
Nov 30 12:28:20 <Ukto>	really?
Nov 30 12:28:44 <Ukto>	google tries to enforce copyrighting apis? 0,o
Nov 30 12:28:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053174 = 1.2469 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7802 @ 0.00053165 = 4.1479 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15453 @ 0.00053124 = 8.2093 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:28:47 <Ukto>	seems.. odd
Nov 30 12:28:56 <kuzetsa>	oracle tried to claim dalvik was infringing on their acquired "sun" java platform because the APIs were basically identical
Nov 30 12:29:03 <Ukto>	ahhhh
Nov 30 12:29:22 <kuzetsa>	dalvik being the guts of most apps on google's android OS
Nov 30 12:29:30 <Ukto>	yes
Nov 30 12:29:54 <Ukto>	hes the one that designed the rather interesting app "push" system
Nov 30 12:30:15 <Ukto>	that lets google install w/e they want on your phone, and even without your knowledge/consent. :P
Nov 30 12:30:29 <kuzetsa>	?
Nov 30 12:30:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053204 = 1.2476 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:30:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18422 @ 0.00053213 = 9.8029 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:30:33 *	Ukto read a very detailed docs about how google handles their app downloads
Nov 30 12:30:39 <Ukto>	you dont just 'download' an app from their store
Nov 30 12:30:50 <Ukto>	when you hit install, googles servers send you a msg
Nov 30 12:30:55 <Ukto>	and blah blah blah
Nov 30 12:31:02 <kuzetsa>	... eh
Nov 30 12:31:04 <Ukto>	yeh
Nov 30 12:31:13 <kuzetsa>	I'm an android developer :P
Nov 30 12:31:20 <kuzetsa>	(android OS & apps too)
Nov 30 12:31:20 <Ukto>	lemme find the paper 1 sec
Nov 30 12:32:09 <Ukto>	stumbled on it, when I was looking into how to do forced app updates
Nov 30 12:32:21 <Ukto>	was like a year ago tho
Nov 30 12:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	so with a bittle lit of luck i'ma sell the planescape project on using bitcoin in their game.
Nov 30 12:33:23 <mircea_popescu>	planeshift sorry.
Nov 30 12:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053159 = 1.2466 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13549 @ 0.00053124 = 7.1978 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053132 = 1.2459 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:37:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6948 @ 0.00053124 = 3.6911 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:37:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20676 @ 0.00052501 = 10.8551 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:38:01 *	Ukto sighs
Nov 30 12:38:07 <Ukto>	kuzetsa: I'll find the info on it sooner or later
Nov 30 12:39:50 <kuzetsa>	not too worried about it
Nov 30 12:40:04 *	Ukto did see the paper though :/
Nov 30 12:40:17 <kuzetsa>	I've directly dealt with the google apps distribution platform
Nov 30 12:40:40 <Ukto>	it described how they do some shit, and send a push type call to the phone directly to download the app
Nov 30 12:40:55 <kuzetsa>	it affects me more as a developer than it might as a security "conscious" (paranoid)
Nov 30 12:41:05 <Ukto>	i'm not worried about how they use it
Nov 30 12:41:12 <kuzetsa>	end user... so I'd rather not read the paper anyway
Nov 30 12:41:25 <Ukto>	I just remember thinking it was interesting, and I remember seeing dalvik mentioned
Nov 30 12:41:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053182 = 1.2471 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:41:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10755 @ 0.00053213 = 5.7231 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:41:36 <kuzetsa>	fair enough
Nov 30 12:41:45 <Ukto>	was thinking it was cause he was invovled in creating hte process, might be wrong.
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Nov 30 12:41:47 <Ukto>	dont remember the reference
Nov 30 12:41:57 <Ukto>	pisses me off when I cant find things tho :/
Nov 30 12:42:12 <Ukto>	anywho
Nov 30 12:42:21 <Ukto>	back to debating how to do a nice secure api
Nov 30 12:42:33 <Ukto>	w/o going too overboard
Nov 30 12:42:44 <kuzetsa>	the android apk files are basically just dalvik. and all that is is a compiled format which is an api-compatible-ish container similar to a java jar file
Nov 30 12:43:22 <Ukto>	ahhh
Nov 30 12:43:32 <Ukto>	that makes sense then
Nov 30 12:43:37 *	kuzetsa nods
Nov 30 12:43:53 <kuzetsa>	dalvik is register based instead of stack based like java
Nov 30 12:44:17 <kuzetsa>	a few under the hood differences like that which make very little difference in how you code your apps
Nov 30 12:44:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052514 = 1.2315 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:44:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8397 @ 0.00052501 = 4.4085 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:44:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1376 @ 0.0005218 = 0.718 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00052161 = 0.8867 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:44:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 882 @ 0.00052149 = 0.46 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:45:15 <Ukto>	I never wrote a native android app. I only used corona since it was Lua and fast to do what i needed
Nov 30 12:45:16 <Ukto>	:P
Nov 30 12:45:24 <kuzetsa>	oh
Nov 30 12:45:30 <kuzetsa>	technically, "native" is something different
Nov 30 12:45:49 <kuzetsa>	if you make android native apps, they natively call the android C libraries and whatnot
Nov 30 12:45:58 <Ukto>	ahhhh
Nov 30 12:46:27 <kuzetsa>	... I haven't had any major need to play with the native version of the android SDK either
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Nov 30 12:46:40 <Ukto>	sounds like it would be a pain :P
Nov 30 12:47:14 <kuzetsa>	http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html ---> (quote) ... The NDK is a toolset that allows you to implement parts of your app using native-code languages such as C and C++ (yes, it's a pain)
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Nov 30 12:49:00 *	Ukto ponders the gpg signing idea
Nov 30 12:49:20 <kuzetsa>	grr
Nov 30 12:49:22 <kuzetsa>	use pgp
Nov 30 12:49:29 <kuzetsa>	...serriously
Nov 30 12:49:35 <kuzetsa>	gpg is an implementation
Nov 30 12:49:40 <Ukto>	lol
Nov 30 12:49:41 <kuzetsa>	just say pgp since you're pgp signing
Nov 30 12:49:47 <Ukto>	fine :P
Nov 30 12:49:56 <Ukto>	so picky
Nov 30 12:49:58 *	kuzetsa hisses at nanotube
Nov 30 12:50:05 <kuzetsa>	Ukto: oh, it's not your fault
Nov 30 12:50:10 <kuzetsa>	^see above lol
Nov 30 12:50:31 <Ukto>	LOL
Nov 30 12:50:43 <jcpham>	http://www.indiegogo.com/cuddle-mattress
Nov 30 12:52:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00052253 = 5.7478 BTC [+]
Nov 30 12:52:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00052149 = 9.2304 BTC [-]
Nov 30 12:57:05 <Ukto>	why do you want pgp over gpg btw?
Nov 30 13:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	kuzetsa gpg!
Nov 30 13:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005321 = 1.2478 BTC [+]
Nov 30 13:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9855 @ 0.00053213 = 5.2441 BTC [+]
Nov 30 13:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7928 @ 0.00053244 = 4.2212 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 13:10:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053174 = 1.2469 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4421 @ 0.00053147 = 2.3496 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:10:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27927 @ 0.00052149 = 14.5637 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:12:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13734 @ 0.00052149 = 7.1621 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:12:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2566 @ 0.00052133 = 1.3377 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 13:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2134 @ 0.00052133 = 1.1125 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25366 @ 0.00052122 = 13.2213 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053212 = 1.2478 BTC [+]
Nov 30 13:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2870 @ 0.00053244 = 1.5281 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 13:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00052614 = 4.2617 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052154 = 1.223 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:32:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1534 @ 0.00052122 = 0.7996 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4721 @ 0.00052122 = 2.4607 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:36:20 <kakobreklaaa>	http://shrani.si/f/2U/eB/26Bg0NXt/moneflow.png
Nov 30 13:36:24 <kakobreklaaa>	sell before its too late!
Nov 30 13:37:20 <kakobreklaaa>	preweeked breakout chances are getting slimmer
Nov 30 13:42:35 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 30 13:42:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.58502, Best ask: 12.58503, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.58502, 24 hour volume: 26279.10705937, 24 hour low: 12.40000, 24 hour high: 12.65000, 24 hour vwap: 12.54155
Nov 30 13:43:49 <thestringpuller>	its going to get volatile
Nov 30 13:43:58 <thestringpuller>	up im here
Nov 30 13:43:59 <thestringpuller>	im
Nov 30 13:44:02 <thestringpuller>	in*
Nov 30 13:44:44 <kakobreklaaa>	nothing happens when everyone expects it
Nov 30 13:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053221 = 1.248 BTC [+]
Nov 30 13:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 302 @ 0.00053244 = 0.1608 BTC [+]
Nov 30 13:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00053286 = 1.3854 BTC [+]
Nov 30 13:47:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00053389 = 3.5237 BTC [+]
Nov 30 13:47:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15606 @ 0.00053406 = 8.3345 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 13:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052146 = 1.2228 BTC [-]
Nov 30 13:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6555 @ 0.00052122 = 3.4166 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 14:01:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8224 @ 0.00052122 = 4.2865 BTC [-]
Nov 30 14:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00052112 = 5.0288 BTC [-]
Nov 30 14:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00052109 = 3.5174 BTC [-]
Nov 30 14:01:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6759 @ 0.00052106 = 3.5218 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 14:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00333413 = 5.0012 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 14:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052376 = 1.2282 BTC [+]
Nov 30 14:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00052381 = 12.8333 BTC [+]
Nov 30 14:08:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00053361 = 1.9744 BTC [+]
Nov 30 14:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11968 @ 0.00053406 = 6.3916 BTC [+]
Nov 30 14:08:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7611 @ 0.00053435 = 4.0669 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 14:15:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00053095 = 1.699 BTC [-]
Nov 30 14:15:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052107 = 1.2219 BTC [-]
Nov 30 14:15:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6841 @ 0.00052106 = 3.5646 BTC [-]
Nov 30 14:15:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9064 @ 0.00052066 = 4.7193 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 14:38:38 <kakobreklaaa>	;;ticker
Nov 30 14:38:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.48002, Best ask: 12.48003, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.48002, 24 hour volume: 27029.09883168, 24 hour low: 12.40000, 24 hour high: 12.65000, 24 hour vwap: 12.54454
Nov 30 14:38:47 <kakobreklaaa>	10c already, told ya :p
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Nov 30 14:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	uh, up or down ?
Nov 30 14:42:43 <kakobreklaaa>	down
Nov 30 14:42:53 <kakobreklaaa>	19:36.19 ( kakobreklaaa ) http://shrani.si/f/2U/eB/26Bg0NXt/moneflow.png
Nov 30 14:42:53 <kakobreklaaa>	19:36.23 ( kakobreklaaa ) sell before its too late!
Nov 30 14:42:55 <kakobreklaaa>	:>
Nov 30 14:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol mk
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Nov 30 14:54:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7636 @ 0.00052066 = 3.9758 BTC [-]
Nov 30 14:54:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00052056 = 4.633 BTC [-]
Nov 30 14:54:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00052029 = 6.5557 BTC [-]
Nov 30 14:54:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2014 @ 0.00052025 = 1.0478 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00052025 = 9.9368 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9236 @ 0.00052025 = 4.805 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5964 @ 0.00052007 = 3.1017 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:09:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052101 = 1.2218 BTC [+]
Nov 30 15:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7355 @ 0.00052104 = 3.8322 BTC [+]
Nov 30 15:17:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00333413 = 4.3344 BTC [+]
Nov 30 15:17:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00335016 = 3.5177 BTC [+]
Nov 30 15:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00336141 = 5.2102 BTC [+]
Nov 30 15:18:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052021 = 1.2199 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 15:18:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17886 @ 0.00052007 = 9.302 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:18:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6820 @ 0.00052 = 3.5464 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6380 @ 0.00052 = 3.3176 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7820 @ 0.00051999 = 4.0663 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:28:21 *	kakobreklaaa is now known as kakobrekla
Nov 30 15:29:22 <Namjies>	kako: what is series 2?
Nov 30 15:30:00 <Namjies>	Also, matching a graph with another graph is pretty pointless.
Nov 30 15:30:09 <kakobrekla>	money flow oscillator
Nov 30 15:31:18 <Namjies>	Well if it's money flow... then it's only natural it match somewhat the price.
Nov 30 15:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005209 = 1.2215 BTC [+]
Nov 30 15:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12055 @ 0.00052104 = 6.2811 BTC [+]
Nov 30 15:33:08 <Namjies>	I'll say it so everyone knows: buy buy buy
Nov 30 15:33:39 <jurov>	i'll say, don't do anything.
Nov 30 15:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052099 = 1.2217 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:34:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10134 @ 0.00052104 = 5.2802 BTC [+]
Nov 30 15:34:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12621 @ 0.00052204 = 6.5887 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 15:35:48 <Namjies>	I buy put options
Nov 30 15:35:56 <Namjies>	I mean sell put options
Nov 30 15:36:27 <Namjies>	Profits to be had.
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Nov 30 15:36:50 <Namjies>	If price go down... buy cheap bitcoins.
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Nov 30 15:37:21 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Nov 30 15:37:22 <assbot>	Provide ticker.
Nov 30 15:37:25 <Diablo-D3>	er
Nov 30 15:37:26 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Nov 30 15:37:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.48748, Best ask: 12.61990, Bid-ask spread: 0.13242, Last trade: 12.48547, 24 hour volume: 26919.53857884, 24 hour low: 12.40200, 24 hour high: 12.65000, 24 hour vwap: 12.54654
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Nov 30 15:52:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052012 = 1.2197 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2880 @ 0.00051999 = 1.4976 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:52:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11490 @ 0.00051977 = 5.9722 BTC [-]
Nov 30 15:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052136 = 1.2226 BTC [+]
Nov 30 15:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17555 @ 0.00052167 = 9.1579 BTC [+]
Nov 30 15:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6445 @ 0.00051977 = 3.3499 BTC [-]
Nov 30 16:01:39 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 30 16:01:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.55110, Best ask: 12.55111, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.55110, 24 hour volume: 26371.56178368, 24 hour low: 12.40200, 24 hour high: 12.65000, 24 hour vwap: 12.54851
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Nov 30 16:13:49 <jurov>	<jgarzik> [12:05:29] But in particular, it is the height of stupidity to encourage bitcoin use in (a) countries under sanction by the US and Europe
Nov 30 16:14:21 <jurov>	we didn't have a good shitstorm in a long time, but now it comes: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128532.0
Nov 30 16:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052004 = 1.2195 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9605 @ 0.00052003 = 4.9949 BTC [-]
Nov 30 16:16:31 <jurov>	<jgarzik> [12:12:55] If you market bitcoin directly to people who are _already_ being targeted -- Taliban, Iran -- you put bitcoin right into the crosshairs
Nov 30 16:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P060T] 10 @ 0.00000001 BTC [-]
Nov 30 16:18:00 <kakobrekla>	delaying the inevitable
Nov 30 16:18:14 <jurov>	that whole log is good to read, to see where bitcoin foundation stands politically
Nov 30 16:18:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052027 = 1.22 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6455 @ 0.00052003 = 3.3568 BTC [-]
Nov 30 16:21:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00336141 = 5.0421 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00337442 = 5.7365 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 16:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17913 @ 0.00052169 = 9.345 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10087 @ 0.00052204 = 5.2658 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052188 = 1.2238 BTC [-]
Nov 30 16:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2825 @ 0.00052204 = 1.4748 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22330 @ 0.00052274 = 11.6728 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005226 = 1.2255 BTC [-]
Nov 30 16:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6670 @ 0.00052274 = 3.4867 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2335 @ 0.00052393 = 1.2234 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052153 = 1.223 BTC [-]
Nov 30 16:39:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5405 @ 0.00052142 = 2.8183 BTC [-]
Nov 30 16:44:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052369 = 1.2281 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:44:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11405 @ 0.00052393 = 5.9754 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 16:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28835 @ 0.00052393 = 15.1075 BTC [+]
Nov 30 16:48:12 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Nov 30 16:48:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.58001, Best ask: 12.58002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.58001, 24 hour volume: 25079.22583532, 24 hour low: 12.42423, 24 hour high: 12.65000, 24 hour vwap: 12.55148
Nov 30 16:48:31 <thestringpuller>	up it goes
Nov 30 16:48:52 <thestringpuller>	shoulda kept calls at 12
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Nov 30 16:53:18 <jurov>	why? i sold C120Ts to mpex bot at ~0.7 and i'm still in black well enough
Nov 30 16:53:59 <jurov>	few days ago i still saw the bot trying to iunsuccessfully sell them
Nov 30 16:54:24 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: So, if I leave my mpex account with zero btc the assets got locked, right? As in non tradable?
Nov 30 16:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli ya
Nov 30 16:57:22 <Namjies>	I don't see the benefit of that...
Nov 30 16:57:37 <Namjies>	If someone has your private key to trade, they can as well deposit...
Nov 30 16:57:49 <Namjies>	What purpose does it serve?
Nov 30 16:57:56 <rdponticelli>	To unlock them afterwards I only have to deposit btc again?
Nov 30 16:58:20 <Namjies>	I think so. Or sign a message with private key?
Nov 30 16:58:38 <Namjies>	Anyway, you need the private key to trade and the private key to authorize the account back...
Nov 30 16:59:21 <Ukto>	anyone worked with mod_rewrites? fighting to get a RewriteCond to work
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Nov 30 17:00:02 <rdponticelli>	I want the signed recipt of my F.GIGA.ETF holdings, locked
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Nov 30 17:01:35 <rdponticelli>	I don't share my key ;)
Nov 30 17:02:37 <rdponticelli>	But I would like to know if it would be a problem later to reactivate my account... << mircea_popescu?
Nov 30 17:03:08 <Namjies>	hmm, how many shares do you have?
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Nov 30 17:03:43 <Namjies>	I always wondered who had all the other shares.
Nov 30 17:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli deposit and whine at me.
Nov 30 17:04:11 <Namjies>	So basically, make a signed request
Nov 30 17:04:35 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: So, not too troublesome?
Nov 30 17:04:53 <rdponticelli>	Namjies: I have around 115000
Nov 30 17:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli well, moderately.
Nov 30 17:05:12 <rdponticelli>	You have a large holding too, right?
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Nov 30 17:06:00 <Namjies>	I have over half all of them I believe.
Nov 30 17:06:12 <Namjies>	566000
Nov 30 17:06:55 <rdponticelli>	Are you doing something to claim them?
Nov 30 17:07:33 <Namjies>	Probably going to ask Gigavps for them. Probably won't do much tho.
Nov 30 17:09:44 <Namjies>	It would be practical if Mircea signed us a message about the amount held after trading is alted, before erasing data.
Nov 30 17:11:13 <Namjies>	But I recall he's not interested in doing any extra task at all in relation to anything due to GLBSE closing down.
Nov 30 17:11:52 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: The etf will be delisted tomorrow? Or today when everything clears?
Nov 30 17:12:48 <rdponticelli>	Namjies: We can "pool" our claim
Nov 30 17:13:01 <mircea_popescu>	soon at any rate.
Nov 30 17:13:27 <Namjies>	Nah, not sure pooling claims is a good idea.
Nov 30 17:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6325 @ 0.00052393 = 3.3139 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6325 @ 0.00052393 = 3.3139 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10309 @ 0.00052454 = 5.4075 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:13:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10309 @ 0.00052454 = 5.4075 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:13:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052156 = 1.2231 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12845 @ 0.00052142 = 6.6976 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.0005202 = 7.6209 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:13:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12845 @ 0.00052142 = 6.6976 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9090 @ 0.00052003 = 4.7271 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.0005202 = 7.6209 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:13:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3013 @ 0.00051977 = 1.5661 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9090 @ 0.00052003 = 4.7271 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10502 @ 0.00051933 = 5.454 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3013 @ 0.00051977 = 1.5661 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:13:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8157 @ 0.00051933 = 4.2362 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:13:59 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: And will we keep the proof on our accounts of our holdings or it will it be erased?
Nov 30 17:14:10 <Namjies>	Erased.
Nov 30 17:14:24 <Namjies>	All signed transaction records are kept however.
Nov 30 17:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Nov 30 17:14:49 <Namjies>	But I don't think Mircea would fetch those for you.
Nov 30 17:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;google conversation discarded as worthless
Nov 30 17:14:51 <gribble>	Conversation Discarded as Worthless pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/conversation-discarded-as-worthless/>; scrap - definition of scrap by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scrap>; Love Shack Compassion Ministry: <http://asischurch.com/love-shack/>
Nov 30 17:14:58 <mircea_popescu>	see that first link rdponticelli
Nov 30 17:17:39 <Namjies>	what? Love shack from a church? That 3rd link looks suspicious.
Nov 30 17:18:23 <Ukto>	ah HAH
Nov 30 17:18:31 <Ukto>	alright.. so I did a sweet setup
Nov 30 17:18:37 <Namjies>	?
Nov 30 17:18:58 <Ukto>	I set things for the API to be on a subdomain (so I can move it to its own server if things get hefty)
Nov 30 17:19:11 <Namjies>	API for?
Nov 30 17:19:16 <Ukto>	BF
Nov 30 17:19:19 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, already read it, mircea_popescu
Nov 30 17:22:09 <rdponticelli>	But I don't agree with some of the points and I'm willing to try keep the link with giga...
Nov 30 17:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051962 = 1.2185 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20455 @ 0.00051933 = 10.6229 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	thing is you don't actually have a link with giga.
Nov 30 17:23:16 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: I would need to deal with whoever had the shares for you, too. Could you send him my way?
Nov 30 17:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Nov 30 17:24:26 <rdponticelli>	Well, I would like to chat with giga about that...
Nov 30 17:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	by all means
Nov 30 17:26:45 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: Wouldn't you tell me who he is either?
Nov 30 17:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	giga ?!
Nov 30 17:27:34 <jurov>	didn't anyone notice a problem with s.mpoe?
Nov 30 17:28:05 <jurov>	there are 1e18 buy/sell orders
Nov 30 17:28:08 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: No, whoever was holding the glbse shares for the etf
Nov 30 17:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	bah bs
Nov 30 17:28:29 <rdponticelli>	btw, withdrawal requested
Nov 30 17:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00052043 = 3.7471 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:30:08 <jurov>	whoever is buying/selling 18`446`744`073`709`529`088  of S.MPOE, raise your hand
Nov 30 17:30:22 <smickles>	I thought it way you
Nov 30 17:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Nov 30 17:30:30 <smickles>	that bot you're braggin' about
Nov 30 17:31:11 <burnside>	 that's awesome
Nov 30 17:31:16 <jurov>	indeed i am testing modifications, but my stats are pretty normal
Nov 30 17:31:59 <burnside>	yo, MP, are the assbot posts here all of the MPEx trades?  or just some portion of 'em?
Nov 30 17:33:12 <smickles>	anyone who wants to short s.bvps b/c rg is awol and they haven't put out a P&L statement in months, I have a little over 2k shares available to lend
Nov 30 17:33:15 <jcpham>	as long as the duct tape holds
Nov 30 17:33:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052453 = 1.23 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:33:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2355 @ 0.00052485 = 1.236 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:33:31 <jcpham>	smickles do i need to call rg
Nov 30 17:33:58 <jcpham>	...on the phone
Nov 30 17:34:44 <smickles>	jcpham: well, I can't get a word from him or grubles about the financial reports, or what rg meant about merging bitvps with his boss
Nov 30 17:35:01 <jcpham>	see i don't even know what that means
Nov 30 17:35:02 <smickles>	for a week or so
Nov 30 17:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	burnside should be all
Nov 30 17:35:17 <jcpham>	i know grubles has been awol for some time now
Nov 30 17:35:21 <jcpham>	months
Nov 30 17:36:02 <smickles>	i mean, he's been paying the dividend (a day late sometimes), but consistantly
Nov 30 17:36:20 <smickles>	but the reports just stop some months ago
Nov 30 17:36:38 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i recall talking to him this month
Nov 30 17:36:51 *	Ukto dances a little jig @ mircea_popescu
Nov 30 17:36:52 <burnside>	things are pretty quiet then on the satoshidice
Nov 30 17:36:54 <jcpham>	last time i spoke to rg on the phone
Nov 30 17:36:59 <smickles>	so he's not exactly living up to all of what's in the contract
Nov 30 17:37:00 <jcpham>	he said grubles had been awol to him
Nov 30 17:37:03 <Ukto>	making a sweet api doc display..
Nov 30 17:37:07 <Ukto>	making a sweet api
Nov 30 17:37:15 <burnside>	I want to get some.  :)
Nov 30 17:37:17 <Ukto>	gonna check whos naughty or nice
Nov 30 17:37:26 <jcpham>	seems like you guys know more than me
Nov 30 17:37:44 <jcpham>	if it is an emergency i can call him
Nov 30 17:38:12 <smickles>	22:36 < burnside> things are pretty quiet then on the satoshidice <<< are you kidding, have a look at blockchain's front page, most are SD txns scrolling by
Nov 30 17:38:14 <Ukto>	you talk to rg on the phone?
Nov 30 17:38:19 <jcpham>	once
Nov 30 17:38:29 <burnside>	smickles, I meant with the share trading.  =P
Nov 30 17:38:32 *	Ukto has talked to coingenuity a few times
Nov 30 17:38:35 <jcpham>	my vps wasn't working
Nov 30 17:38:39 <jcpham>	i tracked him down
Nov 30 17:38:39 *	Ukto trades burnside
Nov 30 17:38:55 <smickles>	burnside: ah, ok. well, it's higher volume than typical for s.dice
Nov 30 17:38:56 <jcpham>	communications were established
Nov 30 17:39:02 <jcpham>	he knows where i work and my office number
Nov 30 17:39:05 <jcpham>	i know his cell
Nov 30 17:39:16 <smickles>	jcpham: i dunno if it's an emergency, just not ideal
Nov 30 17:39:20 <Ukto>	liek everything else, my OCD ia cuasing me to go extreme on the api docs. :P
Nov 30 17:39:22 <Ukto>	including testing
Nov 30 17:39:33 <jcpham>	yeah i see the worry
Nov 30 17:39:54 <smickles>	Ukto: api docs? just follow after nefario and make 99% of the api secret
Nov 30 17:39:54 <burnside>	I'm gonna have to get an MPEx acct I think
Nov 30 17:40:16 <smickles>	burnside: i've never regretted getting mine
Nov 30 17:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052455 = 1.2301 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13795 @ 0.00052485 = 7.2403 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 360 @ 0.00052523 = 0.1891 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:40:54 <burnside>	what other good stuff is on there?
Nov 30 17:41:08 <smickles>	burnside: the best stuff is the options
Nov 30 17:41:13 <jurov>	^ this
Nov 30 17:41:29 <burnside>	yeah, nowhere else you can get that
Nov 30 17:41:37 <burnside>	that I know of anyway
Nov 30 17:41:53 <Ukto>	smickles: I already commentated on that
Nov 30 17:42:06 <jurov>	burnside, and bonds, but they are sold by email
Nov 30 17:42:10 <jcpham>	how about as long as my vps is online everything is fine
Nov 30 17:42:18 <jcpham>	so just /whois jcpham
Nov 30 17:42:27 <jcpham>	if you get no response, bitvps is fubar
Nov 30 17:42:39 <smickles>	you don't need an account to do the mpbor things ("bonds")
Nov 30 17:42:56 <burnside>	what are the good bonds?
Nov 30 17:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	let's dig this up
Nov 30 17:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	burnside http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745
Nov 30 17:43:31 <smickles>	burnside: it's just one bond, to fund mircea_popescu's option bot
Nov 30 17:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	read that story
Nov 30 17:44:30 <smickles>	burnside: also, note that it doesn't fit a 'letter for letter' definiton of an IRL bond
Nov 30 17:44:54 <smickles>	woah, when did blockchain switch their logo?
Nov 30 17:44:59 <burnside>	cool, I'll check it out
Nov 30 17:45:06 <jurov>	burnside, and they are not insured, after all :p
Nov 30 17:45:13 <smickles>	the 'oc' form a little bomb now
Nov 30 17:45:21 <burnside>	heh, I didn't mean buy insurance btw
Nov 30 17:45:31 <burnside>	I meant that an agreement with mpex would be good insurance
Nov 30 17:45:34 <burnside>	;)
Nov 30 17:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17761 @ 0.00052523 = 9.3286 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	well... "insured", they have a clear revenue/loss model
Nov 30 17:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	which is pretty much unique afaik.
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Nov 30 17:48:44 <Namjies>	What guarantee do we have that the unkown proxy who held Gigamining shares for you won't claim them for himself alone? I think that's the biggest concern with the fact shares are dropped on your part.
Nov 30 17:49:28 <smickles>	;;time
Nov 30 17:49:29 <gribble>	02:49 PM, November 30, 2012
Nov 30 17:49:43 <smickles>	;;ticker
Nov 30 17:49:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.58112, Best ask: 12.58115, Bid-ask spread: 0.00003, Last trade: 12.58112, 24 hour volume: 24654.39650294, 24 hour low: 12.42423, 24 hour high: 12.65000, 24 hour vwap: 12.55466
Nov 30 17:49:48 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Nov 30 17:49:49 <gribble>	12.51
Nov 30 17:50:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052072 = 1.2211 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:50:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10363 @ 0.00052043 = 5.3932 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:53:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052504 = 1.2312 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:53:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1379 @ 0.00052523 = 0.7243 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20818 @ 0.00052937 = 11.0204 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:54:31 <Namjies>	When I trust someone, my trust doesn't extend further to the people they trust.
Nov 30 17:55:17 <Ukto>	.j #swagger
Nov 30 17:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00337442 = 0.6749 BTC [+]
Nov 30 17:56:19 <smickles>	heh burnside ^ there's you s.dice action
Nov 30 17:58:14 <Azelphur>	I've been sitting on S.Dice since the IPO
Nov 30 17:58:18 <Azelphur>	and never looked at my account
Nov 30 17:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies it's really an artefact rather than a legitimate concern. how do we know yahoo mail isn't claiming them for themselves for that matter.
Nov 30 17:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052047 = 1.2205 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:58:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116 @ 0.00052043 = 0.0604 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23539 @ 0.00051926 = 12.2229 BTC [-]
Nov 30 17:59:14 <burnside>	whoo hoo
Nov 30 17:59:48 <Azelphur>	seems like I have 38.68 BTC in S.DICE shares, not bad
Nov 30 17:59:56 <Azelphur>	what was the IPO value of them?
Nov 30 18:00:07 <burnside>	I think 0.0032?
Nov 30 18:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Nov 30 18:00:47 <Azelphur>	ah, so pretty much the same
Nov 30 18:01:24 <burnside>	if you have enough, it's not bad
Nov 30 18:01:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052925 = 1.2411 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26772 @ 0.00052937 = 14.1723 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:01:48 <Azelphur>	yea I don't think the dividends are paying out amazing amounts, I only have 1.13 btc balance xD
Nov 30 18:01:53 <Azelphur>	and 11.5k shares
Nov 30 18:02:03 <burnside>	I think once the ipo sells out they'll work their way up
Nov 30 18:02:16 <Azelphur>	lol ipo still not sold after all this time
Nov 30 18:02:30 <burnside>	no, I read they're in second tranche
Nov 30 18:02:38 <Azelphur>	ah
Nov 30 18:02:49 <Namjies>	How can you claim such absurdities? The one holding the gigamining shares for you may very well have given his BTC address to GLBSE and then simply get an affidavit notified to that effect. If he doesn't consult a lawyer and just get it notified, it will only cost him a few dollars.
Nov 30 18:02:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9460 @ 0.00052937 = 5.0078 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:02:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14934 @ 0.00053292 = 7.9586 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:03:01 <burnside>	the total shares in the IPO is only 10% of the company shares
Nov 30 18:03:26 <burnside>	so the dividends get pretty dilluted before they get to you
Nov 30 18:03:26 <Namjies>	And for 1000 Gigamining shares, it's about 10 BTC or 120 USD per week that has been accumulated.
Nov 30 18:04:03 <Namjies>	That proxy could very well make a few easy BTC by claiming them.
Nov 30 18:04:07 <burnside>	still, I think it'd be a good add for my bitcoin portoflio
Nov 30 18:04:12 <burnside>	portfolio...
Nov 30 18:04:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052666 = 1.235 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:04:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10805 @ 0.00052648 = 5.6886 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:04:42 <Namjies>	S.DICE pays about 1% per month.
Nov 30 18:04:43 <Azelphur>	I can't wait for GLBSE to pay out, gonna be awesome :D
Nov 30 18:04:58 <Namjies>	I already got paid, fortunatly.
Nov 30 18:05:05 <Azelphur>	yea, I'm waiting for SS
Nov 30 18:05:07 <Namjies>	I need the data now.
Nov 30 18:05:13 <Azelphur>	yea, the data specifically
Nov 30 18:05:17 <burnside>	It'll be nice to put it all behind us
Nov 30 18:05:20 <Azelphur>	I got ~500btc in SS
Nov 30 18:05:31 <Azelphur>	gonna get paid :D
Nov 30 18:05:42 <Namjies>	That's a hefty amount.
Nov 30 18:05:57 <Azelphur>	indeed
Nov 30 18:06:03 <burnside>	yeah, no wonder you're so excited.
Nov 30 18:06:05 <burnside>	heh
Nov 30 18:06:15 <burnside>	I would be too.  :)
Nov 30 18:06:42 <burnside>	I've been really worried about what to do with my bond holders for LTC-MINING.
Nov 30 18:06:56 <burnside>	I hated having my ass hanging out waiting for Nef to get his act together.
Nov 30 18:07:11 <smickles>	Azelphur: well, no list from nefario here :|
Nov 30 18:07:12 <Azelphur>	yea
Nov 30 18:07:16 <Azelphur>	smickles: :(
Nov 30 18:07:25 <burnside>	and I only had a small fraction of the exposure giga does.  :(
Nov 30 18:07:47 <burnside>	I'm sure I'll be one of the last to get the list, I was a pretty small fish
Nov 30 18:08:14 <Namjies>	Well, I integrated my WHMCS cart with my template. How does it look? https://clients.namworld.net/clientarea.php
Nov 30 18:08:25 <Azelphur>	nice
Nov 30 18:08:36 <smickles>	Azelphur: ya know, i cant get the linux version of tf2 to work with my video driver, i tried to upgrade, but the newer drivers don't seem to work
Nov 30 18:08:46 <Azelphur>	smickles: what card
Nov 30 18:08:55 <smickles>	68XX iirc
Nov 30 18:09:03 <Azelphur>	so ATI
Nov 30 18:09:05 <Azelphur>	hmm
Nov 30 18:09:08 <smickles>	ya
Nov 30 18:09:14 <Azelphur>	are you using radeon or proprietary
Nov 30 18:09:53 <smickles>	proprietary
Nov 30 18:10:03 <Azelphur>	try using radeon, it actually worked on my laptop under radeon
Nov 30 18:10:07 <smickles>	the one that shipped with 12.04
Nov 30 18:10:17 <Azelphur>	12.04 doesn't ship with proprietary
Nov 30 18:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053258 = 1.2489 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8555 @ 0.00053292 = 4.5591 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:10:48 <smickles>	that's the only option i have, maybe i did something weird
Nov 30 18:11:53 <Azelphur>	go into the hardware drivers dialog and uninstall all ati things
Nov 30 18:12:00 <Azelphur>	then try it
Nov 30 18:13:05 <smickles>	i may as well give it a shot :)
Nov 30 18:13:15 <Azelphur>	:)
Nov 30 18:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00053292 = 8.0471 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053073 = 1.2446 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:31:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00053065 = 2.3349 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:31:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00052761 = 9.3123 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:31:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1695 @ 0.00052648 = 0.8924 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20087 @ 0.00052627 = 10.5712 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4101 @ 0.00053292 = 2.1855 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00053401 = 7.4227 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 612 @ 0.00053435 = 0.327 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053405 = 1.2523 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27877 @ 0.00053435 = 14.8961 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00053455 = 6.9224 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4981 @ 0.00053495 = 2.6646 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15152 @ 0.00053498 = 8.106 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 18:43:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052182 = 1.2237 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5705 @ 0.0005215 = 2.9752 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052859 = 1.2395 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31105 @ 0.0005286 = 16.4421 BTC [+]
Nov 30 18:54:20 <nanotube>	kuzetsa: well, because my implementation uses gpg, the plugin's called gpg. :)
Nov 30 18:55:02 <nanotube>	kuzetsa: that said, you can use pgp whenever you need gpg, with gribble. i.e., pgp eauth works just as well as gpg eauth. :)
Nov 30 18:58:13 <smickles>	;;pgp info
Nov 30 18:58:14 <gribble>	(gpg info [--key|--address] <nick>) -- Returns the registration details of registered user <nick>. If '--key' option is given, interpret <nick> as a GPG key ID.
Nov 30 18:58:20 <smickles>	:o
Nov 30 18:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052153 = 1.223 BTC [-]
Nov 30 18:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3155 @ 0.0005215 = 1.6453 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 19:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052838 = 1.2391 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21495 @ 0.0005286 = 11.3623 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:12:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22037 @ 0.0005291 = 11.6598 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:12:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8123 @ 0.00053498 = 4.3456 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:16:40 <jurov>	did anyone get any data in "exercises" part of mpex jsonstat reply?
Nov 30 19:18:08 <jurov>	i had some options to autoexercise but they were worthless, so they just vanished without trace
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Nov 30 19:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i think month ends in ~40 minutes
Nov 30 19:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	o nm it already went
Nov 30 19:20:48 <jurov>	lol you live in CET nao
Nov 30 19:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	a ok! lol.
Nov 30 19:21:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: what was the final #?
Nov 30 19:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	# ?
Nov 30 19:22:47 <jurov>	i think he meant btcusd
Nov 30 19:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	12.52
Nov 30 19:23:21 <smickles>	:)
Nov 30 19:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	everyone please check out teh exercise.
Nov 30 19:24:54 <jurov>	so it's supposed to send nothing if exercises result was 0?
Nov 30 19:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	well yes. if option is worthless it just goes away
Nov 30 19:25:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18397 @ 0.00052521 = 9.6623 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14103 @ 0.00053498 = 7.5448 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:26:01 <Lyspooner>	you should charge for expiration
Nov 30 19:26:14 <jurov>	me or mircea?
Nov 30 19:26:28 <Lyspooner>	most derivative exchanges charge a fee for exercise or non-exercise
Nov 30 19:26:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00338428 = 0.3384 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:26:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4300 @ 0.00338447 = 14.5532 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:27:31 <jurov>	i do charge 0.5% fee. mpex charges nothing iirc.
Nov 30 19:27:33 <mircea_popescu>	i might eventually, but for now... let the people enjoy.
Nov 30 19:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052173 = 1.2235 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:28:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.0005215 = 4.7196 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 19:33:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00338405 = 5.4145 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:36:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.00336802 = 10.7777 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00337956 = 7.0971 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 72 @ 0.00338447 = 0.2437 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:38:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1126 @ 0.00339999 = 3.8284 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:39:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.0005267 = 2.8969 BTC [+]
Nov 30 19:39:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052156 = 1.2231 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:39:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12590 @ 0.0005215 = 6.5657 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 19:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3142 @ 0.00051926 = 1.6315 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00051922 = 6.8018 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11568 @ 0.00051921 = 6.0062 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7259 @ 0.00051921 = 3.7689 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:45:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 382 @ 0.00051903 = 0.1983 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00051903 = 7.3702 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00051903 = 0.8824 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:57:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6563 @ 0.00051903 = 3.4064 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:57:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00051899 = 13.9608 BTC [-]
Nov 30 19:57:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3416 @ 0.00051888 = 1.7725 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 20:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-november-2012-statement/
Nov 30 20:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe/mpex results are out.
Nov 30 20:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12834 @ 0.00051888 = 6.6593 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9066 @ 0.00051884 = 4.7038 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 20:11:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005206 = 1.2208 BTC [+]
Nov 30 20:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7655 @ 0.00052078 = 3.9866 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 20:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052058 = 1.2208 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:20:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12005 @ 0.00052078 = 6.252 BTC [+]
Nov 30 20:22:13 <jurov>	i was thinking the dividend will be bigger, forgot that you have to pay interest on the bonds
Nov 30 20:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	ya, was a huge outlay this month
Nov 30 20:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	well, in comparative terms at least.
Nov 30 20:27:23 <jurov>	haha actually my experiment to issue options funded by loan ended up similarly
Nov 30 20:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 1000000000 @ 0.00000043 = 433.9709646 BTC
Nov 30 20:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	how's that ?
Nov 30 20:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051887 = 1.2168 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2134 @ 0.00051884 = 1.1072 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00051881 = 2.2309 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.0005188 = 6.926 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.0005186 = 6.7937 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00051829 = 7.9039 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00051782 = 3.573 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00051755 = 0.9316 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00051753 = 17.596 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00051734 = 19.8659 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3499 @ 0.00051699 = 1.8089 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27826 @ 0.00051652 = 14.3727 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.0005164 = 8.0042 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00051626 = 11.9514 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00051624 = 5.627 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00051594 = 5.4948 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45912 @ 0.00051567 = 23.6754 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13938 @ 0.00051553 = 7.1855 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25215 @ 0.00051553 = 12.9991 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00051552 = 16.342 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00051546 = 7.1907 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00051543 = 1.1339 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00051542 = 9.9476 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12042 @ 0.0005153 = 6.2052 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00051528 = 8.5279 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00051527 = 3.4781 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00051509 = 5.563 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27720 @ 0.00051486 = 14.2719 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00051448 = 7.2542 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00051427 = 10.1054 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00051425 = 14.6047 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00051416 = 15.6305 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00051408 = 3.5986 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00051401 = 9.9718 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00051401 = 11.925 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00051399 = 5.2427 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00051389 = 10.175 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00051369 = 3.8527 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15789 @ 0.00051365 = 8.11 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10995 @ 0.00051351 = 5.646 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00051349 = 13.7102 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00051333 = 11.6013 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00051317 = 13.9582 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7085 @ 0.00051307 = 3.6351 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12332 @ 0.00051297 = 6.3259 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00051294 = 13.6955 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	eee
Nov 30 20:31:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00051288 = 9.8217 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2618 @ 0.00051287 = 1.3427 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15932 @ 0.00051287 = 8.171 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00051267 = 4.4602 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:31:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12163 @ 0.00051259 = 6.2346 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052077 = 1.2212 BTC [+]
Nov 30 20:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9605 @ 0.00052078 = 5.0021 BTC [+]
Nov 30 20:38:06 <smickles>	so mircea_popescu, the mpoe bot would've made about 2kbtc if not for the cost of borrowing btc?
Nov 30 20:39:14 <smickles>	funny, it feels like the mpbor holders lost btc, somehow, b/c the charged too high of interest
Nov 30 20:41:33 <smickles>	but they only lost some principal, and received a 9.9% interest payment, right?
Nov 30 20:42:20 <smickles>	or do i need to reread the terms
Nov 30 20:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051261 = 1.2021 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7937 @ 0.00051259 = 4.0684 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:43:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3173 @ 0.00051247 = 1.6261 BTC [-]
Nov 30 20:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	they lost ~4.x% on principal and made 9.9% cash upfront
Nov 30 20:44:51 <mircea_popescu>	it worked sort of like a miner bond, this month, except they didn't lose 10% on capital and made 3% in dividends
Nov 30 20:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	but the other way around
Nov 30 20:46:16 <mircea_popescu>	of course not that many miner bonds that pay 2k btc a month either, so... yeah.
Nov 30 20:51:08 <smickles>	heh, so they are eating into their own principal a bit. that's a little humorous
Nov 30 20:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's actually quite a good safeguard
Nov 30 20:56:37 <mircea_popescu>	you can deposit a bond and go climb the hymalaya, knowing that if mpoe starts to underperform you get your bond sent back little by little.
Nov 30 20:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051956 = 1.2184 BTC [+]
Nov 30 20:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9581 @ 0.00051987 = 4.9809 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 719 @ 0.00051987 = 0.3738 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10381 @ 0.00052 = 5.3981 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051399 = 1.2053 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26977 @ 0.00051399 = 13.8659 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9284 @ 0.00051385 = 4.7706 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 21:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00051797 = 4.4027 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051418 = 1.2058 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:22:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6010 @ 0.00051385 = 3.0882 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3106 @ 0.00051385 = 1.596 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.00051247 = 7.4052 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:25:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19972 @ 0.00051247 = 10.2351 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:27:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2139 @ 0.00051248 = 1.0962 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:30:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7861 @ 0.00051248 = 4.0286 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:30:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6605 @ 0.00051247 = 3.3849 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:30:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6209 @ 0.00051228 = 3.1807 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:30:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3575 @ 0.00051221 = 1.8312 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:35:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00051222 = 1.6903 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:35:20 <smickles>	dammit mircea_popescu you know what this means?
Nov 30 21:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	?
Nov 30 21:36:01 <smickles>	remember when I said that I ought to put some btc towards the mpbor @ 25%?
Nov 30 21:36:14 <smickles>	I would've gotten it this month, no?
Nov 30 21:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Nov 30 21:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	pushed it to 25% lmao
Nov 30 21:36:50 <smickles>	:|
Nov 30 21:37:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051967 = 1.2186 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:37:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8778 @ 0.00052 = 4.5646 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31739 @ 0.00052078 = 16.529 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:39:26 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: ok, so for next time: I need to remember to put in a bid and lay down the btc before the end of month turnover
Nov 30 21:39:41 <mircea_popescu>	they only count for full months.
Nov 30 21:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	you have 48 hours to get in the current one.
Nov 30 21:39:57 <smickles>	hmm
Nov 30 21:40:12 <smickles>	i had forgotten about the grace period
Nov 30 21:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051226 = 1.2012 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00051222 = 3.4319 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6005 @ 0.00051221 = 3.0758 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052076 = 1.2212 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9654 @ 0.00052078 = 5.0276 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9251 @ 0.00052282 = 4.8366 BTC [+]
Nov 30 21:59:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052265 = 1.2256 BTC [-]
Nov 30 21:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3264 @ 0.00052282 = 1.7065 BTC [+]
Nov 30 22:09:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052393 = 1.2286 BTC [+]
Nov 30 22:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10785 @ 0.0005236 = 5.647 BTC [-]
Nov 30 22:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8070 @ 0.00052169 = 4.21 BTC [-]
Nov 30 22:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5882 @ 0.00339999 = 19.9987 BTC [+]
Nov 30 22:26:32 <Ukto>	finally homer
Nov 30 22:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052605 = 1.2336 BTC [+]
Nov 30 22:27:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12234 @ 0.00052615 = 6.4369 BTC [+]
Nov 30 22:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00052879 = 4.4947 BTC [+]
Nov 30 22:27:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4521 @ 0.00052908 = 2.392 BTC [+]
Nov 30 22:28:45 <smickles>	homer?
Nov 30 22:29:59 <Ukto>	took the eldest out to his fridya night thing
Nov 30 22:31:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052176 = 1.2235 BTC [-]
Nov 30 22:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12279 @ 0.00052169 = 6.4058 BTC [-]
Nov 30 22:31:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.0005159 = 2.3731 BTC [-]
Nov 30 22:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16476 @ 0.00051548 = 8.493 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 22:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051555 = 1.209 BTC [+]
Nov 30 22:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6855 @ 0.00051548 = 3.5336 BTC [-]
Nov 30 22:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052795 = 1.238 BTC [+]
Nov 30 22:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00052824 = 5.1239 BTC [+]
Nov 30 22:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3855 @ 0.00052908 = 2.0396 BTC [+]
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Nov 30 23:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051549 = 1.2088 BTC [-]
Nov 30 23:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7819 @ 0.00051548 = 4.0305 BTC [-]
Nov 30 23:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00051545 = 2.0618 BTC [-]
Nov 30 23:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17436 @ 0.0005149 = 8.9778 BTC [-]
Nov 30 23:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00336802 = 5.052 BTC [-]
Nov 30 23:13:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00333051 = 8.6593 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 23:21:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00052822 = 2.4298 BTC [+]
Nov 30 23:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2022 @ 0.00052767 = 1.0669 BTC [-]
Nov 30 23:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052884 = 1.2401 BTC [+]
Nov 30 23:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28074 @ 0.00052908 = 14.8534 BTC [+]
Nov 30 23:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00052929 = 13.8145 BTC [+]
Nov 30 23:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1093 @ 0.00052949 = 0.5787 BTC [+]
Nov 30 23:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005279 = 1.2379 BTC [-]
Nov 30 23:24:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5305 @ 0.00052767 = 2.7993 BTC [-]
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Nov 30 23:36:02 *	[\\\] is now known as [`0]
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Nov 30 23:42:21 *	Gladamas_ is now known as Gladamas
Nov 30 23:47:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00052873 = 3.6218 BTC [+]
Nov 30 23:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.0005289 = 1.6396 BTC [+]
Nov 30 23:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00052859 = 7.2945 BTC [-]
Nov 30 23:53:05 *	[\\\] is now known as \_\_\
Nov 30 23:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00052859 = 9.9375 BTC [-]
Nov 30 23:56:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5273 @ 0.00052767 = 2.7824 BTC [-]
Nov 30 23:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5327 @ 0.00052317 = 2.7869 BTC [-]
Dec 01 00:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052859 = 1.2395 BTC [+]
Dec 01 00:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15429 @ 0.00052867 = 8.1568 BTC [+]
Dec 01 00:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2226 @ 0.0005289 = 1.1773 BTC [+]
Dec 01 00:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052321 = 1.2269 BTC [-]
Dec 01 00:10:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18155 @ 0.00052317 = 9.4982 BTC [-]
Dec 01 00:11:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052879 = 1.24 BTC [+]
Dec 01 00:11:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13074 @ 0.0005289 = 6.9148 BTC [+]
Dec 01 00:11:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 281 @ 0.00052949 = 0.1488 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 00:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052342 = 1.2274 BTC [-]
Dec 01 00:27:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7918 @ 0.00052317 = 4.1425 BTC [-]
Dec 01 00:36:47 *	Gladamas is now known as Guest31337
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Dec 01 00:39:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00052141 = 8.8118 BTC [-]
Dec 01 00:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00051641 = 2.5821 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 00:52:01 <usagi>	hail
Dec 01 00:55:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00051641 = 8.1335 BTC [-]
Dec 01 00:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16185 @ 0.00051751 = 8.3759 BTC [+]
Dec 01 01:05:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052291 = 1.2262 BTC [+]
Dec 01 01:05:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2857 @ 0.00052308 = 1.4944 BTC [+]
Dec 01 01:05:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12198 @ 0.00052928 = 6.4562 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 01:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052188 = 1.2238 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1855 @ 0.00052153 = 0.9674 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:12:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2272 @ 0.00052153 = 1.1849 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5778 @ 0.00052035 = 3.0066 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 01:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00052219 = 4.047 BTC [+]
Dec 01 01:23:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00052035 = 5.6978 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052507 = 1.2313 BTC [+]
Dec 01 01:25:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00052535 = 11.2425 BTC [+]
Dec 01 01:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9955 @ 0.00052928 = 5.269 BTC [+]
Dec 01 01:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005205 = 1.2206 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5372 @ 0.00052035 = 2.7953 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00051641 = 1.2136 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0005157 = 7.2972 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1264 @ 0.0005149 = 0.6508 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 01:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.25585894 BTC [+]
Dec 01 01:38:56 <Namjies>	Hello Usagi
Dec 01 01:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4431 @ 0.00051252 = 2.271 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:39:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7042 @ 0.00051221 = 3.607 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:39:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12177 @ 0.00051202 = 6.2349 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:51:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14882 @ 0.00051202 = 7.6199 BTC [-]
Dec 01 01:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 668 @ 0.00051201 = 0.342 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 01:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00051201 = 7.885 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13932 @ 0.00051201 = 7.1333 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3218 @ 0.000512 = 1.6476 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:02:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31814 @ 0.000512 = 16.2888 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:07:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6369 @ 0.00051399 = 3.2736 BTC [+]
Dec 01 02:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12829 @ 0.00051764 = 6.6408 BTC [+]
Dec 01 02:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3623 @ 0.00052327 = 1.8958 BTC [+]
Dec 01 02:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30650 @ 0.00051641 = 15.828 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:20:38 <usagi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128630.0
Dec 01 02:20:44 <usagi>	Hi nam
Dec 01 02:21:00 <usagi>	What a day.. what a day
Dec 01 02:21:09 <usagi>	Someone sent me coins on an old debt
Dec 01 02:21:14 <usagi>	.......at my GLBSE address
Dec 01 02:21:15 <usagi>	Ahahahahaha
Dec 01 02:21:32 <usagi>	Luckily it was only a small partial payment. Oh well
Dec 01 02:23:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2975 @ 0.00052159 = 1.5517 BTC [+]
Dec 01 02:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3383 @ 0.00052107 = 1.7628 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:26:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.0033191 = 2.6553 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28190 @ 0.00052107 = 14.689 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:30:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9890 @ 0.000512 = 5.0637 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:30:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19770 @ 0.00051197 = 10.1216 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052302 = 1.2265 BTC [+]
Dec 01 02:34:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5555 @ 0.00052327 = 2.9068 BTC [+]
Dec 01 02:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051747 = 1.2135 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:46:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11424 @ 0.00051721 = 5.9086 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052307 = 1.2266 BTC [+]
Dec 01 02:50:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19397 @ 0.00052327 = 10.1499 BTC [+]
Dec 01 02:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00052372 = 11.3124 BTC [+]
Dec 01 02:50:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6458 @ 0.00052699 = 3.4033 BTC [+]
Dec 01 02:54:33 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: fail
Dec 01 02:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052685 = 1.2355 BTC [-]
Dec 01 02:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4255 @ 0.00052699 = 2.2423 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5329 @ 0.00052699 = 2.8083 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24028 @ 0.0005283 = 12.694 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:05:48 <usagi>	Whoa... delayed response
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Dec 01 03:05:51 <usagi>	What happened to this channel
Dec 01 03:06:12 <usagi>	It used to be abuzz with activity andnow all we see are MPOE trades
Dec 01 03:06:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051732 = 1.2131 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:06:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12522 @ 0.00051721 = 6.4765 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:06:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4833 @ 0.00051197 = 2.4744 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:06:35 <usagi>	Isn't that weird? All that trades is MPOE? What about what constitutes MPOE?
Dec 01 03:06:47 <usagi>	It's an etf right?
Dec 01 03:07:15 <usagi>	Maybe I don't understand what it is... but if I saw an etf trading like hotcakes and the stuff it was invested in was illiquid I'd be concerned
Dec 01 03:07:17 <usagi>	Hmm
Dec 01 03:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052314 = 1.2268 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3255 @ 0.00052343 = 1.7038 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 03:09:12 <usagi>	welcome back
Dec 01 03:09:22 <usagi>	how have you been diablo
Dec 01 03:10:12 <usagi>	ahh well I guess I can't stick around... stuff to do ^^ good luck
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Dec 01 03:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052343 = 2.3554 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052 = 1.2194 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.00051989 = 8.2922 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:20:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051198 = 1.2006 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:20:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10097 @ 0.00051197 = 5.1694 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:20:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4058 @ 0.00051177 = 2.0768 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16733 @ 0.00051241 = 8.5742 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17467 @ 0.00051241 = 8.9503 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:37:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9033 @ 0.00051177 = 4.6228 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051548 = 1.2088 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:42:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15155 @ 0.00051583 = 7.8174 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 03:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051179 = 1.2001 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:46:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4489 @ 0.00051177 = 2.2973 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10466 @ 0.00051171 = 5.3556 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:49:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00051171 = 8.52 BTC [-]
Dec 01 03:53:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051554 = 1.2089 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:54:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1845 @ 0.00051583 = 0.9517 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:54:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13593 @ 0.0005171 = 7.0289 BTC [+]
Dec 01 03:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 167 @ 0.00052343 = 0.0874 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:06:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052321 = 1.2269 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:06:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 598 @ 0.00052343 = 0.313 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051196 = 1.2005 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10672 @ 0.00051171 = 5.461 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11394 @ 0.00051164 = 5.8296 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 912 @ 0.00051164 = 0.4666 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051189 = 1.2004 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:10:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11138 @ 0.00051164 = 5.6986 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:10:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00051149 = 14.8332 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52517 @ 0.00051146 = 26.8603 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:14:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005232 = 1.2269 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:14:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13855 @ 0.00052343 = 7.2521 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:14:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26578 @ 0.00051146 = 13.5936 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00051144 = 10.0754 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4651 @ 0.0005114 = 2.3785 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:14:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00051136 = 5.0369 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:14:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19221 @ 0.0005113 = 9.8277 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 04:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.0005113 = 2.9548 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4171 @ 0.00051127 = 2.1325 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 04:18:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7858 @ 0.00051127 = 4.0176 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:18:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00051124 = 5.2658 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6570 @ 0.00051121 = 3.3586 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5130 @ 0.00051121 = 2.6225 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12186 @ 0.00051119 = 6.2294 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052312 = 1.2267 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6025 @ 0.00052343 = 3.1537 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:31:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 630 @ 0.00052422 = 0.3303 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:32:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052413 = 1.2291 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:32:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3155 @ 0.00052422 = 1.6539 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:33:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00052422 = 6.6052 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:37:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9115 @ 0.00052422 = 4.7783 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21233 @ 0.00052704 = 11.1906 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:37:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7872 @ 0.0005283 = 4.1588 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:37:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6797 @ 0.00052928 = 3.5975 BTC [+]
Dec 01 04:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4033 @ 0.00052949 = 2.1354 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 04:51:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051131 = 1.199 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:51:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8514 @ 0.00051119 = 4.3523 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:51:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00051118 = 13.9552 BTC [-]
Dec 01 04:51:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4840 @ 0.00051102 = 2.4733 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 05:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051404 = 1.2054 BTC [+]
Dec 01 05:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18004 @ 0.00051411 = 9.256 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 05:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051106 = 1.1984 BTC [-]
Dec 01 05:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7055 @ 0.00051102 = 3.6052 BTC [-]
Dec 01 05:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00334367 = 6.0186 BTC [+]
Dec 01 05:36:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051122 = 1.1988 BTC [+]
Dec 01 05:36:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19331 @ 0.00051102 = 9.8785 BTC [-]
Dec 01 05:36:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11174 @ 0.00051101 = 5.71 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 05:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20808 @ 0.00051101 = 10.6331 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 05:59:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2818 @ 0.00051101 = 1.44 BTC [-]
Dec 01 05:59:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9839 @ 0.00051097 = 5.0274 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5761 @ 0.00051097 = 2.9437 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00051095 = 3.9343 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:00:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1039 @ 0.00051087 = 0.5308 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 06:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19761 @ 0.00051087 = 10.0953 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00051083 = 8.2244 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9539 @ 0.00051078 = 4.8723 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:09:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22765 @ 0.00051078 = 11.6279 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:09:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4435 @ 0.00051061 = 2.2646 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:13:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00051298 = 3.1805 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:13:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051408 = 1.2055 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7171 @ 0.00051411 = 3.6867 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:18:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005141 = 1.2056 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:18:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 975 @ 0.00051411 = 0.5013 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:18:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3030 @ 0.00051457 = 1.5591 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:28:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051064 = 1.1975 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22780 @ 0.00051061 = 11.6317 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29515 @ 0.00051061 = 15.0707 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2310 @ 0.00051058 = 1.1794 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051439 = 1.2062 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00051457 = 6.2006 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1255 @ 0.00051597 = 0.6475 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:35:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051089 = 1.198 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:35:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15540 @ 0.00051063 = 7.9352 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:35:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2138 @ 0.00051058 = 1.0916 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:42:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051061 = 1.1974 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:42:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16402 @ 0.00051058 = 8.3745 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9903 @ 0.00051057 = 5.0562 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00334367 = 9.6966 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:48:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14764 @ 0.00051057 = 7.5381 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1033 @ 0.00051057 = 0.5274 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15767 @ 0.00051051 = 8.0492 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051568 = 1.2093 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14194 @ 0.00051597 = 7.3237 BTC [+]
Dec 01 06:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051071 = 1.1976 BTC [-]
Dec 01 06:58:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8555 @ 0.00051051 = 4.3674 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051564 = 1.2092 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10451 @ 0.00051597 = 5.3924 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2298 @ 0.00051605 = 1.1859 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:00:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8706 @ 0.00051745 = 4.5049 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:03:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051711 = 1.2126 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:03:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15344 @ 0.00051745 = 7.9398 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:03:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00051951 = 3.7405 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:03:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6638 @ 0.00051979 = 3.4504 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 07:09:52 <PsychoticBoy>	so how is life in the GLBSE scammers world?
Dec 01 07:10:48 <PsychoticBoy>	should not be long till most GLBSE isuers will get scammer tags :D and will be hunted till ....
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Dec 01 07:12:35 <JWU42>	PsychoticBoy: still waiting for more from nef
Dec 01 07:13:03 <PsychoticBoy>	yep still waiting...... I did not recieved any info from nef till now
Dec 01 07:13:58 <PsychoticBoy>	I probably continue ABM/PGM on another exchange to pay out dividends en let ppl liquidate
Dec 01 07:14:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 27 @ 0.00334367 = 0.0903 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 973 @ 0.00334145 = 3.2512 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:14:47 <PsychoticBoy>	65% chance for issuing on Cryptostocks 30% chance for BTC.co en 5% chance MPEX
Dec 01 07:18:27 <jurov>	PsychoticBoy, would you mind to explain the reasoning?
Dec 01 07:20:10 <PsychoticBoy>	to continue on another exchange? or the chances for which exchangfe
Dec 01 07:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051064 = 1.1975 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:20:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3651 @ 0.00051051 = 1.8639 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2306 @ 0.00051051 = 1.1772 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:20:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00051049 = 1.8888 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:20:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00051048 = 2.2461 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:20:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2298 @ 0.00051038 = 1.1729 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:20:49 <PsychoticBoy>	cryptostocks is the most userfriendly exchange en MPEX the less userfriendly
Dec 01 07:20:49 <jurov>	these percentages, how did you arrive to them?
Dec 01 07:21:20 <PsychoticBoy>	populairity and userfriendly interface
Dec 01 07:23:10 <jurov>	sorry, but that is exactly how would scammer decide where to list
Dec 01 07:23:14 <JWU42>	PsychoticBoy: thanks for the info - still trying to determine the path forward for YABMC
Dec 01 07:23:37 <jurov>	i think serious asset isuers would have other priorities
Dec 01 07:23:47 <JWU42>	jurov: like what?
Dec 01 07:24:20 <jurov>	exchange volume/liquidity and sound business plan
Dec 01 07:24:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051974 = 1.2188 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:24:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12405 @ 0.00051979 = 6.448 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 07:24:39 <jurov>	not that "popularity and userfriendly interface" isn't important
Dec 01 07:24:42 <JWU42>	jurov: I think many asset issuers just want this nightmare to end
Dec 01 07:24:57 <JWU42>	they want to wind down their "asset" and be done
Dec 01 07:25:02 <JWU42>	too many headaches
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Dec 01 07:25:20 <JWU42>	just my $.02
Dec 01 07:25:24 <jurov>	okay byt we're talking about those who want to continue
Dec 01 07:25:40 <JWU42>	fair enough - and your points are both valid
Dec 01 07:25:54 <JWU42>	liquidity remains a big issue and was a problem for GLBSE
Dec 01 07:26:19 <JWU42>	no bid depth and he never put in the market maker code as we had asked many times
Dec 01 07:27:47 <PsychoticBoy>	I will put up an ask in this case to keep liquidating possible
Dec 01 07:28:00 <PsychoticBoy>	for ppl who want to quit
Dec 01 07:28:45 <PsychoticBoy>	lets say 1Mh/s 0.06 btc liquidate value
Dec 01 07:29:02 <PsychoticBoy>	sounds fair
Dec 01 07:32:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 327 @ 0.00334145 = 1.0927 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00331323 = 3.1476 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051042 = 1.1969 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5452 @ 0.00051038 = 2.7826 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00051036 = 2.9856 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4623 @ 0.00051024 = 2.3588 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:48:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051034 = 1.1967 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6977 @ 0.00051024 = 3.5599 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6478 @ 0.00050994 = 3.3034 BTC [-]
Dec 01 07:49:05 <JWU42>	very fair
Dec 01 07:50:37 <JWU42>	YABMC last was .0769 - but diff was lower
Dec 01 07:51:02 <JWU42>	2864140.50781097
Dec 01 07:51:07 <JWU42>	was diff at that point
Dec 01 07:51:21 <PsychoticBoy>	now ~3500000
Dec 01 07:52:16 <JWU42>	yeah - diff is up 20%
Dec 01 07:52:27 <JWU42>	;;calc .0769 * -.2
Dec 01 07:52:27 <gribble>	-0.01538
Dec 01 07:52:37 <JWU42>	;;calc .0769 * .8
Dec 01 07:52:37 <gribble>	0.06152
Dec 01 07:52:49 <JWU42>	assuming linear relationship
Dec 01 07:53:01 <JWU42>	.06 is fair
Dec 01 07:53:14 <EskimoBob>	lol @ Iran: Fuck you and fuck your dollar, America! We use bitcoin now!
Dec 01 07:53:35 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Dec 01 07:53:36 <JWU42>	it traded at .062 that same day
Dec 01 07:53:50 <JWU42>	actually .0611
Dec 01 07:53:57 <PsychoticBoy>	I remember buying between 0.1 and 0.07
Dec 01 07:53:58 <JWU42>	;;calc .0611 * .8
Dec 01 07:53:58 <gribble>	0.04888
Dec 01 07:54:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051235 = 1.2015 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:54:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7739 @ 0.00051254 = 3.9665 BTC [+]
Dec 01 07:54:09 *	JWU42 nods
Dec 01 07:54:26 <EskimoBob>	jurov: safety by obscurity and deep PITA? (jurov | sorry, but that is exactly how would scammer decide where to list )
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Dec 01 07:54:58 <EskimoBob>	:)
Dec 01 07:55:55 <EskimoBob>	but I love that magic rainbow pony picture you guys had (still have?) in your listings page :)
Dec 01 07:57:17 <PsychoticBoy>	that my little porny unicorn?
Dec 01 07:58:17 <EskimoBob>	yes, it was a unicorn not just a pony
Dec 01 07:58:56 <EskimoBob>	a fkn UNICORN! my good, I feel so safe and protected :)
Dec 01 07:59:11 <EskimoBob>	first time I went there I thought I had a wrong address
Dec 01 07:59:26 <EskimoBob>	i was like wtf is this? This must be a joke
Dec 01 07:59:53 <jurov>	someone is butthurt?
Dec 01 08:00:05 <EskimoBob>	and when the unicorn appeared, I knew I am safe :)
Dec 01 08:00:14 <EskimoBob>	butthurt? why?
Dec 01 08:00:23 <jurov>	talking about deep PITA
Dec 01 08:00:41 <EskimoBob>	context jurov, context
Dec 01 08:01:21 <jurov>	i didn't get what you're trying to say, at all
Dec 01 08:01:38 <EskimoBob>	I am all for minimalistic pages, without all the flashy crap
Dec 01 08:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051029 = 1.1966 BTC [-]
Dec 01 08:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3870 @ 0.00050994 = 1.9735 BTC [-]
Dec 01 08:02:31 <EskimoBob>	Mpex is for blind people ;)
Dec 01 08:02:46 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Dec 01 08:04:18 <jurov>	haha
Dec 01 08:08:00 <jurov>	;;calc  1.2015-1.1966+1.1969-1.1975
Dec 01 08:08:00 <gribble>	0.0043
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Dec 01 08:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051159 = 1.1997 BTC [+]
Dec 01 08:24:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20305 @ 0.00051181 = 10.3923 BTC [+]
Dec 01 08:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2909 @ 0.00329221 = 9.577 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 08:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00050999 = 1.1959 BTC [-]
Dec 01 08:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29569 @ 0.00050994 = 15.0784 BTC [-]
Dec 01 08:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 386 @ 0.00050992 = 0.1968 BTC [-]
Dec 01 08:33:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051171 = 1.2 BTC [+]
Dec 01 08:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8534 @ 0.00051181 = 4.3678 BTC [+]
Dec 01 08:33:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1138 @ 0.00051254 = 0.5833 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 09:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051769 = 1.214 BTC [+]
Dec 01 09:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.0005178 = 1.9418 BTC [+]
Dec 01 09:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9005 @ 0.00051949 = 4.678 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 09:23:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00051805 = 10.9309 BTC [-]
Dec 01 09:23:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6095 @ 0.00051949 = 3.1663 BTC [+]
Dec 01 09:23:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 901 @ 0.00051979 = 0.4683 BTC [+]
Dec 01 09:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7354 @ 0.00052044 = 3.8273 BTC [+]
Dec 01 09:25:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005131 = 1.2032 BTC [-]
Dec 01 09:25:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3455 @ 0.00051309 = 1.7727 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 09:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051313 = 1.2033 BTC [+]
Dec 01 09:31:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5474 @ 0.00051309 = 2.8087 BTC [-]
Dec 01 09:32:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00051309 = 0.5495 BTC [-]
Dec 01 09:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11433 @ 0.00051302 = 5.8654 BTC [-]
Dec 01 09:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5496 @ 0.00050992 = 2.8025 BTC [-]
Dec 01 09:37:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051545 = 1.2087 BTC [+]
Dec 01 09:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00051552 = 10.7228 BTC [+]
Dec 01 09:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3355 @ 0.00052044 = 1.7461 BTC [+]
Dec 01 09:42:49 <leotreasure>	http://soundcloud.com/djleo/understanding-bitcoin
Dec 01 09:51:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052022 = 1.2199 BTC [-]
Dec 01 09:51:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19691 @ 0.00052044 = 10.248 BTC [+]
Dec 01 09:51:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1164 @ 0.00052107 = 0.6065 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 09:57:08 <pigeons>	https://btcjam.com/listings/757
Dec 01 10:05:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21590 @ 0.00052107 = 11.2499 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051839 = 1.2156 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3955 @ 0.00051825 = 2.0497 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18807 @ 0.00051825 = 9.7467 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13993 @ 0.00051261 = 7.173 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 10:18:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052097 = 1.2217 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:18:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6883 @ 0.00052107 = 3.5865 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30771 @ 0.00052146 = 16.0458 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:18:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8031 @ 0.00052203 = 4.1924 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052203 = 2.3491 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 10:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051706 = 1.2125 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00051675 = 14.4173 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15849 @ 0.00051261 = 8.1244 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4762 @ 0.00050992 = 2.4282 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:28:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052185 = 1.2237 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2869 @ 0.00052203 = 1.4977 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:28:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15025 @ 0.0005223 = 7.8476 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:30:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.0033071 = 4.2992 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1247 @ 0.00330905 = 4.1264 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 10:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051252 = 1.2019 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:45:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8281 @ 0.00051218 = 4.2414 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:45:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7474 @ 0.00051146 = 3.8227 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 10:52:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051882 = 1.2166 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:52:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11755 @ 0.00051885 = 6.0991 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:54:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051176 = 1.2001 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:54:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7968 @ 0.00051146 = 4.0753 BTC [-]
Dec 01 10:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051883 = 1.2167 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6395 @ 0.00051885 = 3.318 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13110 @ 0.0005223 = 6.8474 BTC [+]
Dec 01 10:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44300 @ 0.0005223 = 23.1379 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 11:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00052128 = 4.1702 BTC [-]
Dec 01 11:44:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051988 = 1.2191 BTC [-]
Dec 01 11:44:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6120 @ 0.00051962 = 3.1801 BTC [-]
Dec 01 11:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051983 = 1.219 BTC [+]
Dec 01 11:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23305 @ 0.00051962 = 12.1097 BTC [-]
Dec 01 11:48:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005221 = 1.2243 BTC [+]
Dec 01 11:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 608 @ 0.0005223 = 0.3176 BTC [+]
Dec 01 11:48:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.00052268 = 13.9294 BTC [+]
Dec 01 11:48:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3547 @ 0.00052272 = 1.8541 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 12:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052258 = 1.2255 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20673 @ 0.00052272 = 10.8062 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:01:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00052348 = 9.4488 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:01:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5382 @ 0.00052419 = 2.8212 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:09:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21772 @ 0.00052419 = 11.4127 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 12:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1346 @ 0.00052419 = 0.7056 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:12:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00052422 = 2.5949 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:12:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 654 @ 0.00052509 = 0.3434 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:13:22 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 01 12:13:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.48002, Best ask: 12.48003, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.48002, 24 hour volume: 16081.47869182, 24 hour low: 12.46000, 24 hour high: 12.68778, 24 hour vwap: 12.57870
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Dec 01 12:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051986 = 1.2191 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:18:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1075 @ 0.00051962 = 0.5586 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8080 @ 0.00051406 = 4.1536 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 12:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9379 @ 0.00051492 = 4.8294 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00051517 = 5.332 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2980 @ 0.00052509 = 1.5648 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.59668103 = 596.681 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.51669697 = 516.697 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:38:18 <EskimoBob>	usagi is now known as Guest99975  > Guest99975 is now known as tsukino. Opps!
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Dec 01 12:42:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051858 = 1.2161 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:42:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.0005186 = 9.9053 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:42:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8009 @ 0.00052509 = 4.2054 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 12:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.51669697 = 516.697 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:46:15 <asa1024>	lol EB
Dec 01 12:46:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.59668103 = 596.681 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052304 = 1.2265 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13059 @ 0.00052275 = 6.8266 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4704 @ 0.00052275 = 2.459 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:53:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4452 @ 0.00051641 = 2.2991 BTC [-]
Dec 01 12:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052498 = 1.2311 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:53:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 183 @ 0.00052509 = 0.0961 BTC [+]
Dec 01 12:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3220 @ 0.00052533 = 1.6916 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 13:09:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00051972 = 2.4947 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051495 = 1.2076 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:09:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8823 @ 0.00051491 = 4.5431 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:09:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5182 @ 0.00051406 = 2.6639 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052531 = 1.2319 BTC [+]
Dec 01 13:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22530 @ 0.00052533 = 11.8357 BTC [+]
Dec 01 13:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1875 @ 0.0005254 = 0.9851 BTC [+]
Dec 01 13:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1839 @ 0.00330905 = 6.0853 BTC [+]
Dec 01 13:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 911 @ 0.00334688 = 3.049 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 13:36:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.0005254 = 9.4572 BTC [+]
Dec 01 13:38:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052021 = 1.2199 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:38:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005202 = 1.2199 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:38:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3219 @ 0.00052001 = 1.6739 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:38:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33374 @ 0.00051997 = 17.3535 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 13:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052 = 2.2469 BTC [+]
Dec 01 13:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1126 @ 0.00051997 = 0.5855 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7551 @ 0.00051406 = 3.8817 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15199 @ 0.00051286 = 7.795 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051962 = 2.2453 BTC [+]
Dec 01 13:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.00051976 = 2.328 BTC [+]
Dec 01 13:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051293 = 2.2164 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:51:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1079 @ 0.00051286 = 0.5534 BTC [-]
Dec 01 13:58:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051962 = 2.2453 BTC [+]
Dec 01 13:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12024 @ 0.00051976 = 6.2496 BTC [+]
Dec 01 13:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 705 @ 0.0005254 = 0.3704 BTC [+]
Dec 01 14:03:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051306 = 2.2169 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:03:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 792 @ 0.00051286 = 0.4062 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:03:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16083 @ 0.00051146 = 8.2258 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:03:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8604 @ 0.00051101 = 4.3967 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8996 @ 0.00051101 = 4.597 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12104 @ 0.00051048 = 6.1788 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00051048 = 7.7848 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 14:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052534 = 2.27 BTC [+]
Dec 01 14:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6270 @ 0.0005254 = 3.2943 BTC [+]
Dec 01 14:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9961 @ 0.00052543 = 5.2338 BTC [+]
Dec 01 14:17:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052522 = 2.2695 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:17:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 689 @ 0.00052543 = 0.362 BTC [+]
Dec 01 14:17:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00052544 = 6.9095 BTC [+]
Dec 01 14:17:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13353 @ 0.00052601 = 7.0238 BTC [+]
Dec 01 14:17:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 437 @ 0.00052627 = 0.23 BTC [+]
Dec 01 14:18:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051051 = 2.2059 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:18:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17039 @ 0.00051048 = 8.6981 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:21:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051058 = 2.2062 BTC [+]
Dec 01 14:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22957 @ 0.00051048 = 11.7191 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:21:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3728 @ 0.00050992 = 1.901 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 14:27:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050995 = 2.2035 BTC [+]
Dec 01 14:27:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18181 @ 0.00050992 = 9.2709 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6898 @ 0.00050989 = 3.5172 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00052607 = 0.6839 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 14:39:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3752 @ 0.00050989 = 1.9131 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:39:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22582 @ 0.00050985 = 11.5134 BTC [-]
Dec 01 14:48:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00051777 = 5.0741 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 15:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00051404 = 6.0657 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10325 @ 0.00050985 = 5.2642 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:13:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35950 @ 0.0005098 = 18.3273 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:13:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17025 @ 0.00050978 = 8.679 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 15:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00051278 = 7.6917 BTC [+]
Dec 01 15:23:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051698 = 2.2339 BTC [+]
Dec 01 15:23:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4329 @ 0.00051727 = 2.2393 BTC [+]
Dec 01 15:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2350 @ 0.00334688 = 7.8652 BTC [+]
Dec 01 15:27:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051634 = 2.2311 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:27:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00051605 = 8.6438 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2225 @ 0.00050978 = 1.1343 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:29:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00050975 = 5.5053 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:29:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5985 @ 0.00050973 = 3.0507 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:29:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00050956 = 7.1338 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00050952 = 10.3433 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:29:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15590 @ 0.00050935 = 7.9408 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:29:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4129 @ 0.00051435 = 2.1238 BTC [+]
Dec 01 15:29:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1721 @ 0.00051695 = 0.8897 BTC [+]
Dec 01 15:29:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11871 @ 0.00051727 = 6.1405 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 15:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052609 = 2.2732 BTC [+]
Dec 01 15:45:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9979 @ 0.00052627 = 5.2516 BTC [+]
Dec 01 15:49:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052406 = 2.2645 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:49:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20927 @ 0.00052404 = 10.9666 BTC [-]
Dec 01 15:56:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052606 = 2.2731 BTC [+]
Dec 01 15:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12593 @ 0.00052627 = 6.6273 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/dragons-tale-a-bitcoin-linux-mmorpg/
Dec 01 16:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	i made 150 btc today with that, suffer.
Dec 01 16:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	cry.
Dec 01 16:03:11 <Diablo-D3>	did someone say bitcoin linux mmorpg?
Dec 01 16:04:05 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I should make some sort of bitcoin powered game
Dec 01 16:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	i did yeah
Dec 01 16:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	and that may be a good idea Diablo-D3.
Dec 01 16:04:28 <Diablo-D3>	be like
Dec 01 16:04:31 <Diablo-D3>	GIANT FUCKING SPACE SHIPS
Dec 01 16:04:34 <Diablo-D3>	IN SPACE
Dec 01 16:04:42 <Diablo-D3>	and only a tiny subset of them penis shaped.
Dec 01 16:04:44 *	Diablo-D3 stares at nasa
Dec 01 16:05:17 <Diablo-D3>	>galonsized herbivore variant
Dec 01 16:06:07 <Diablo-D3>	but I love giant tits :<
Dec 01 16:06:40 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: so what Ill have to do is
Dec 01 16:06:43 <Diablo-D3>	finish seaking
Dec 01 16:06:54 <Diablo-D3>	that language of mine that focuses on large scale data processing
Dec 01 16:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	or that.
Dec 01 16:08:35 <Diablo-D3>	well, for example
Dec 01 16:08:36 <Diablo-D3>	look at minecraft
Dec 01 16:08:47 <Diablo-D3>	its in java
Dec 01 16:08:56 <Diablo-D3>	it was written by someone who didnt know how to wring every last bit of performance from java
Dec 01 16:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052616 = 2.2735 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13883 @ 0.00052627 = 7.3062 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3396 @ 0.00052643 = 1.7878 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:09:18 <Diablo-D3>	arguably, even if it was written by me, it may still be a fucking pig
Dec 01 16:09:22 <Diablo-D3>	because you just cant win there
Dec 01 16:09:49 <Diablo-D3>	now, lets say he wrote it with seaking
Dec 01 16:10:27 <Diablo-D3>	or really, lets say I wrote it with seaking because notch is a fucktard when it comes to coding
Dec 01 16:10:40 <Diablo-D3>	it would scale across as many machines as you could feed it
Dec 01 16:10:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 439 @ 0.00334688 = 1.4693 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:10:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 461 @ 0.00337971 = 1.558 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	so go ahead.
Dec 01 16:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	btc games is certainly a good line to be in.
Dec 01 16:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052405 = 2.2644 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 507 @ 0.00052404 = 0.2657 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:13:28 <Diablo-D3>	seriously like
Dec 01 16:13:46 <Diablo-D3>	you know those extra sexy top500 things they keep doing like porno photo spreads of?
Dec 01 16:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052435 = 2.2657 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39316 @ 0.00052404 = 20.6032 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:14:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2129 @ 0.00051975 = 1.1065 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:14:13 <Diablo-D3>	seaking would eat those for breakfast and have room for more
Dec 01 16:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1439 @ 0.00337971 = 4.8634 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:18:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 949 @ 0.00339999 = 3.2266 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:18:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.51669697 = 516.697 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.59668103 = 596.681 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12065 @ 0.00051822 = 6.2523 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:24:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 619 @ 0.00051822 = 0.3208 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00339999 = 7.14 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:31:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.59668103 = 596.681 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:31:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.51669697 = 516.697 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:31:56 <jurov>	Diablo-D3, there's some theory around that full bitcoin client itself will need to be parallelized to be able to keep with tx volume
Dec 01 16:32:06 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: probably not
Dec 01 16:32:11 <Diablo-D3>	not the way that I was discussing above
Dec 01 16:32:26 <Diablo-D3>	you could pretty much do what I already do with diablominer
Dec 01 16:32:39 <Diablo-D3>	infact, gpus would be massive overkill
Dec 01 16:32:40 <pigeons>	diablominer is the new python
Dec 01 16:32:51 <Diablo-D3>	lets say you had the tx volume of the entire planet
Dec 01 16:32:58 <Diablo-D3>	thats what we do in a year in an hour.
Dec 01 16:33:06 <Diablo-D3>	or hell, in a minute
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Dec 01 16:33:13 <Diablo-D3>	several billion tx a day
Dec 01 16:33:26 <Diablo-D3>	a 7970 would be overkill for the math part.
Dec 01 16:33:54 <Diablo-D3>	you could process and verify the entire day's chain in a few minutes if you parallelized it as much as possible on a 7970
Dec 01 16:35:12 <jurov>	yes? then someone should do that... the initial blockchain sync is painful and it's supposedly cpu bound
Dec 01 16:35:40 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: no
Dec 01 16:35:43 <Diablo-D3>	its IO bound
Dec 01 16:35:53 <Diablo-D3>	because bdb is fucking retarded and not meant to handle 2gb of data
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Dec 01 16:36:04 <Diablo-D3>	thats already been fixed, it just hasnt shipped yet
Dec 01 16:36:56 <Diablo-D3>	0.8 will ship with leveldb (google's kv store thats basically as fast as kyoto cabinet)
Dec 01 16:37:05 <Diablo-D3>	(seriously, kv stores just arent getting any faster)
Dec 01 16:37:18 <Diablo-D3>	if you have unlimited network and disk IO
Dec 01 16:37:28 <Diablo-D3>	0.8 will sync the chain in like 3 hours
Dec 01 16:37:35 <jurov>	oh okay, i mixed it up...
Dec 01 16:38:05 <Diablo-D3>	I think sipa or gmaxwell said they can load an already existing dbd chain into leveldb in 15 minutes
Dec 01 16:38:49 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: now
Dec 01 16:38:51 <Diablo-D3>	once we have that fixed
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Dec 01 16:39:04 <Diablo-D3>	where disk io is no longer a problem because bdb is fucktarded
Dec 01 16:39:11 <Diablo-D3>	cpu is next
Dec 01 16:39:22 <Diablo-D3>	but, as I said, we simply dont generate enough tx to matter
Dec 01 16:39:32 <Diablo-D3>	unless you have bitcoind on a rpi or something stupid like that, its not an issue
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Dec 01 16:40:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052631 = 2.2742 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27304 @ 0.00052643 = 14.3736 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:40:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 775 @ 0.00052652 = 0.4081 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:41:05 <Diablo-D3>	now, if you do, you're still somewhat fucked
Dec 01 16:41:15 <Diablo-D3>	theres no opencl for the gpu that rpis have
Dec 01 16:42:36 <jurov>	i'm actually thinking to procure some lean server for that purpose, already ruled rpi out cause of tight memory
Dec 01 16:42:45 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, like
Dec 01 16:42:51 <kakobrekla>	man, an engineer would do a better pr job than josh does
Dec 01 16:42:53 <Diablo-D3>	I wouldnt use rpi now because I use p2pool
Dec 01 16:42:55 <Diablo-D3>	and that just isnt happening
Dec 01 16:42:56 <jurov>	next on list is via nano, with their sha256 instruction support
Dec 01 16:43:09 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: nope
Dec 01 16:43:10 <Diablo-D3>	isnt worth it
Dec 01 16:43:12 <jurov>	but maybe ecdsa is bigger problem...
Dec 01 16:43:27 <Diablo-D3>	vias do about 1mhash/sec
Dec 01 16:43:41 <Diablo-D3>	doing it on the x86 core itself you get more than that.
Dec 01 16:43:55 <jurov>	you say atom then?
Dec 01 16:44:02 <Diablo-D3>	neither
Dec 01 16:44:09 <Diablo-D3>	I'd go with an amd fusion
Dec 01 16:44:18 <Diablo-D3>	the newest ones with the GCN GPU
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Dec 01 16:46:40 <jurov>	i'm a bit confused bitcoind has opencl support... or the fusion has such a good x86 computation power?
Dec 01 16:47:41 <Diablo-D3>	bitcoind in the future will have opencl support
Dec 01 16:48:00 <Diablo-D3>	fusions are good cheap cpus.
Dec 01 16:48:09 <Diablo-D3>	bitcoind rapes memory bandwidth
Dec 01 16:48:15 <Diablo-D3>	atoms and nanos dont have it
Dec 01 16:48:29 <Diablo-D3>	previous gen fusions use dual channel ddr3-1333, new ones I think are 1600 or 1866
Dec 01 16:48:49 <Diablo-D3>	and its not like they use a lot of power
Dec 01 16:48:51 <Diablo-D3>	they dont
Dec 01 16:49:42 <Diablo-D3>	and with two ddr3 slots, you can throw 8gb of memory in
Dec 01 16:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052341 = 2.2617 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10039 @ 0.00052323 = 5.2527 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:49:57 <jurov>	good to know
Dec 01 16:49:59 <Diablo-D3>	that means caching the entire chain and having another 6gb free.
Dec 01 16:50:18 <Diablo-D3>	actually sorry
Dec 01 16:50:22 <Diablo-D3>	you can throw 16gb in
Dec 01 16:50:30 <Diablo-D3>	it just gets expensive putting that much in
Dec 01 16:50:45 <Diablo-D3>	although the next box Im building Im putting 32 in, so heh
Dec 01 16:50:59 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: basically, bitcoind will have what it needs by the time we need it
Dec 01 16:51:19 <Diablo-D3>	so if it comes to the point we need to parallel verify incoming tx on gpus, we will
Dec 01 16:51:39 <Diablo-D3>	that'll be the day where every tx in the world is done using bitcoin.
Dec 01 16:51:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052644 = 2.2747 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:51:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11479 @ 0.00052652 = 6.0439 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:53:09 <jurov>	okay. just that i was talking with someone who did a thesis on that
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Dec 01 16:53:38 <jurov>	and he was convinced that network speed will be the first bottleneck
Dec 01 16:54:02 <jurov>	have to wait till  he finishes it to see the exact reasoning
Dec 01 16:55:34 <jurov>	so from there i derived maybe it will be necessary to loadbalance the processing, like high intensity HTTP is done now
Dec 01 16:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052649 = 2.275 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 16:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12421 @ 0.00052652 = 6.5399 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:55:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14208 @ 0.00052732 = 7.4922 BTC [+]
Dec 01 16:56:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.51669697 = 516.697 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.59668103 = 596.681 BTC [-]
Dec 01 16:57:34 <jurov>	^^^ should have bought some bonds.. but dunno what happens to btcusd now
Dec 01 16:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	grace period is 48 hours, you still got a little time.
Dec 01 17:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142 @ 0.00052732 = 0.0749 BTC [+]
Dec 01 17:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13175 @ 0.00052733 = 6.9476 BTC [+]
Dec 01 17:00:52 <kakobrekla>	22:47.41 ( Diablo-D3 ) bitcoind in the future will have opencl support
Dec 01 17:00:55 <kakobrekla>	urlpls?
Dec 01 17:01:07 <kakobrekla>	fuckin scrollback.
Dec 01 17:01:40 <kakobrekla>	what
Dec 01 17:01:44 <kakobrekla>	what are buying?
Dec 01 17:01:48 <kakobrekla>	we*
Dec 01 17:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	lolwat ?
Dec 01 17:02:16 <kakobrekla>	22:57.34 ( jurov ) ^^^ should have bought some bonds.. but dunno what happens to btcusd now
Dec 01 17:02:16 <kakobrekla>	22:58.56 ( mircea_popescu ) grace period is 48 hours, you still got a little time.
Dec 01 17:02:21 <kakobrekla>	umm
Dec 01 17:02:25 <kakobrekla>	talking about mpoe?
Dec 01 17:02:43 <jurov>	yes, seeing as thousands of opts are being sold again
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Dec 01 17:02:56 <kakobrekla>	hmmm
Dec 01 17:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	ya bonds
Dec 01 17:04:20 <kakobrekla>	what was the roi this past month?
Dec 01 17:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18175 @ 0.00052733 = 9.5842 BTC [+]
Dec 01 17:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9125 @ 0.00052769 = 4.8152 BTC [+]
Dec 01 17:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	~5%
Dec 01 17:05:51 <kakobrekla>	>>I'd have said the stupid days of Bitcoin are behind us. Sorta like how the Van Buren crisis brought an end to the stupid days of America.
Dec 01 17:05:59 <kakobrekla>	stupid days in america are over?!?
Dec 01 17:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Dec 01 17:07:31 <kakobrekla>	-PR words.
Dec 01 17:08:16 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1371901#msg1371901
Dec 01 17:09:52 <jcpham>	i'm pretend to be stupid in case anyone misses it
Dec 01 17:10:03 <jcpham>	i'll
Dec 01 17:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 01 17:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	i guess she means speculation
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Dec 01 17:17:32 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128699.msg1371863;topicseen#msg1371863
Dec 01 17:18:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16068 @ 0.00052769 = 8.4789 BTC [+]
Dec 01 17:18:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2882 @ 0.00052792 = 1.5215 BTC [+]
Dec 01 17:25:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052431 = 2.2655 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:25:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15185 @ 0.00052423 = 7.9604 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:32:05 <dub>	we need a web of trolls
Dec 01 17:33:02 <dub>	the troll density in this community is drowning it in retardation
Dec 01 17:34:02 <dub>	integrating a troll wot into forums or an greasemonkey script would save us a shitload of time filtering these fucktards our selves
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Dec 01 17:36:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005255 = 2.2707 BTC [+]
Dec 01 17:36:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.00052549 = 3.0368 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:38:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2621 @ 0.00052549 = 1.3773 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:38:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12043 @ 0.00052516 = 6.3245 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:39:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3004 @ 0.00052516 = 1.5776 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:39:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1215 @ 0.00052423 = 0.6369 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 298 @ 0.00052323 = 0.1559 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1607 @ 0.00052312 = 0.8407 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00052222 = 3.2117 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2226 @ 0.00052196 = 1.1619 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:41:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00052196 = 11.5875 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3174 @ 0.00052196 = 1.6567 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:43:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3910 @ 0.00051972 = 2.0321 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29750 @ 0.00051972 = 15.4617 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9121 @ 0.00051972 = 4.7404 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4179 @ 0.00051772 = 2.1636 BTC [-]
Dec 01 17:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12921 @ 0.00051772 = 6.6895 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 18:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1979 @ 0.00051496 = 1.0191 BTC [-]
Dec 01 18:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052775 = 2.2804 BTC [+]
Dec 01 18:19:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10829 @ 0.00052792 = 5.7168 BTC [+]
Dec 01 18:27:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052778 = 2.2805 BTC [-]
Dec 01 18:27:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10709 @ 0.00052792 = 5.6535 BTC [+]
Dec 01 18:27:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.000528 = 2.4816 BTC [+]
Dec 01 18:27:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00052804 = 1.5841 BTC [+]
Dec 01 18:27:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2076 @ 0.00052838 = 1.0969 BTC [+]
Dec 01 18:34:49 *	noagendamarket (~dave@unaffiliated/noagendamarket) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 01 18:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052273 = 2.2587 BTC [-]
Dec 01 18:38:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6196 @ 0.00052238 = 3.2367 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 18:51:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052416 = 2.2649 BTC [+]
Dec 01 18:51:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00052391 = 0.932 BTC [-]
Dec 01 18:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 766 @ 0.00052812 = 0.4045 BTC [+]
Dec 01 18:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3555 @ 0.00052812 = 1.8775 BTC [+]
Dec 01 18:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14024 @ 0.00052838 = 7.41 BTC [+]
Dec 01 18:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13221 @ 0.0005287 = 6.9899 BTC [+]
Dec 01 19:03:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005285 = 2.2836 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.0005287 = 2.368 BTC [+]
Dec 01 19:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052729 = 2.2784 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:10:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.00052716 = 4.7861 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052722 = 2.2781 BTC [+]
Dec 01 19:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6871 @ 0.00052716 = 3.6221 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:11:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5908 @ 0.00052391 = 3.0953 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:11:34 <EskimoBob>	this shit is like a mexican soap opera: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1371887#msg1371887
Dec 01 19:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052407 = 2.2645 BTC [+]
Dec 01 19:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23379 @ 0.00052391 = 12.2485 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 19:24:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6461 @ 0.00052391 = 3.385 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00052488 = 1.9421 BTC [+]
Dec 01 19:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052849 = 2.2836 BTC [+]
Dec 01 19:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7220 @ 0.0005287 = 3.8172 BTC [+]
Dec 01 19:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14959 @ 0.00052896 = 7.9127 BTC [+]
Dec 01 19:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052409 = 2.2646 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12773 @ 0.00052391 = 6.6919 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00052345 = 2.2016 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 19:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3368 @ 0.00052345 = 1.763 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5100 @ 0.0033937 = 17.3079 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00339999 = 4.59 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 19:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4176 @ 0.00052345 = 2.1859 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11254 @ 0.00052238 = 5.8789 BTC [-]
Dec 01 19:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14120 @ 0.00052006 = 7.3432 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 20:01:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5630 @ 0.00052006 = 2.9279 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 20:18:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13470 @ 0.00051829 = 6.9814 BTC [-]
Dec 01 20:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00051829 = 9.6143 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 20:35:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00051964 = 6.8592 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 20:47:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.0005195 = 12.1823 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 21:04:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.0005195 = 2.9352 BTC [-]
Dec 01 21:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2680 @ 0.00051829 = 1.389 BTC [-]
Dec 01 21:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24320 @ 0.00051703 = 12.5742 BTC [-]
Dec 01 21:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23580 @ 0.00051703 = 12.1916 BTC [-]
Dec 01 21:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4720 @ 0.00051674 = 2.439 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 21:15:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 220 @ 0.00051964 = 0.1143 BTC [+]
Dec 01 21:15:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00051988 = 12.1912 BTC [+]
Dec 01 21:15:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22830 @ 0.0005202 = 11.8762 BTC [+]
Dec 01 21:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00334398 = 8.6943 BTC [-]
Dec 01 21:22:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00334106 = 7.3503 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 21:23:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3070 @ 0.0005202 = 1.597 BTC [+]
Dec 01 21:23:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2315 @ 0.00052099 = 1.2061 BTC [+]
Dec 01 21:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18435 @ 0.00052099 = 9.6045 BTC [+]
Dec 01 21:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20143 @ 0.00052517 = 10.5785 BTC [+]
Dec 01 21:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5472 @ 0.00052881 = 2.8936 BTC [+]
Dec 01 21:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00051674 = 1.7311 BTC [-]
Dec 01 21:37:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4962 @ 0.00051674 = 2.5641 BTC [-]
Dec 01 21:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00052081 = 3.0467 BTC [+]
Dec 01 21:41:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14344 @ 0.00051674 = 7.4121 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 21:51:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2339 @ 0.00051674 = 1.2087 BTC [-]
Dec 01 21:51:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23427 @ 0.00052081 = 12.201 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 21:56:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27870 @ 0.00052081 = 14.515 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 22:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1603 @ 0.00052081 = 0.8349 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00052873 = 4.6264 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2928 @ 0.00052881 = 1.5484 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6291 @ 0.00052896 = 3.3277 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11728 @ 0.000529 = 6.2041 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052871 = 2.2846 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:01:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10172 @ 0.000529 = 5.381 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:01:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14557 @ 0.00052923 = 7.704 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 22:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052896 = 2.2856 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12243 @ 0.00052923 = 6.4794 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17788 @ 0.00052945 = 9.4179 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 22:09:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052933 = 2.2872 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:09:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00052945 = 3.2185 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052731 = 2.2785 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.000527 = 8.2739 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00052654 = 9.9516 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00052692 = 0.4742 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005168 = 2.2331 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1835 @ 0.00051674 = 0.9482 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15286 @ 0.00051579 = 7.8844 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:21:52 <dub>	wow noagendamarket actually stabbed a bunch of people, killing one of them
Dec 01 22:22:12 <Diablo-D3>	wait, what?
Dec 01 22:22:23 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128630.20
Dec 01 22:22:30 <dub>	http://www.animalnoises.com.au/animal-noises-articles/1992/11/28/unstable-killer-jailed/
Dec 01 22:23:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.003344 = 4.6816 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:24:07 <Diablo-D3>	but he was just in here
Dec 01 22:28:39 <dub>	it was 20 years ago and he got a couple years jail
Dec 01 22:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005159 = 2.2292 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:31:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42029 @ 0.00051579 = 21.6781 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:32:14 <dub>	also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128523.0 bitcoin police officer (lol) scams a guy for CCNA brain dumps (LOL)
Dec 01 22:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.003344 = 6.1864 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10639 @ 0.00051673 = 5.4975 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11035 @ 0.00051579 = 5.6917 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 626 @ 0.00051528 = 0.3226 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:41:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051949 = 2.2447 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:41:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7029 @ 0.00051978 = 3.6535 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051949 = 2.2447 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7029 @ 0.00051978 = 3.6535 BTC [+]
Dec 01 22:55:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051946 = 2.2446 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00051978 = 2.7959 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 22:59:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051543 = 2.2272 BTC [-]
Dec 01 22:59:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7879 @ 0.00051528 = 4.0599 BTC [-]
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Dec 01 23:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051558 = 2.2278 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:06:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9579 @ 0.00051528 = 4.9359 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00051971 = 1.9489 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 23:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1866 @ 0.00051528 = 0.9615 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00051508 = 3.5541 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9571 @ 0.00051503 = 4.9294 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:13:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.0005147 = 4.7352 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:13:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00051379 = 9.4794 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:13:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14905 @ 0.00051281 = 7.6434 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:14:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 571 @ 0.00051971 = 0.2968 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:14:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1992 @ 0.00051978 = 1.0354 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:19:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3637 @ 0.00052033 = 1.8924 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39 @ 0.00051281 = 0.02 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:19:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00051252 = 3.2033 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:19:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00051109 = 0.92 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:19:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00051064 = 6.3064 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 232 @ 0.00050935 = 0.1182 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:19:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8642 @ 0.0005093 = 4.4014 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00051638 = 5.0605 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052666 = 2.2757 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 670 @ 0.00052692 = 0.353 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 23:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9309 @ 0.00052692 = 4.9051 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:25:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21541 @ 0.0005271 = 11.3543 BTC [+]
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Dec 01 23:31:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052933 = 2.2872 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:31:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116 @ 0.00052945 = 0.0614 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:31:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12213 @ 0.00052946 = 6.4663 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9523 @ 0.0005278 = 5.0262 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050945 = 2.2013 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:36:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1822 @ 0.0005093 = 0.9279 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:37:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00050923 = 13.24 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1757 @ 0.00050923 = 0.8947 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051104 = 2.2082 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17179 @ 0.0005112 = 8.7819 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:52:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050935 = 2.2009 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:52:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21629 @ 0.00050923 = 11.0141 BTC [-]
Dec 01 23:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051085 = 2.2074 BTC [+]
Dec 01 23:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11023 @ 0.0005112 = 5.635 BTC [+]
Dec 02 00:00:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.0005112 = 9.3294 BTC [+]
Dec 02 00:14:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005095 = 2.2015 BTC [-]
Dec 02 00:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6760 @ 0.00050923 = 3.4424 BTC [-]
Dec 02 00:24:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051101 = 2.2081 BTC [+]
Dec 02 00:24:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 925 @ 0.0005112 = 0.4729 BTC [+]
Dec 02 00:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8368 @ 0.00051172 = 4.2821 BTC [+]
Dec 02 00:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00051172 = 4.5799 BTC [+]
Dec 02 00:37:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050939 = 2.2011 BTC [-]
Dec 02 00:37:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4749 @ 0.00050923 = 2.4183 BTC [-]
Dec 02 00:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6130 @ 0.00050919 = 3.1213 BTC [-]
Dec 02 00:45:28 *	Gladamas is now known as Guest198384
Dec 02 00:45:32 *	Guest198384 is now known as Gladamas
Dec 02 00:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051156 = 2.2105 BTC [+]
Dec 02 00:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19579 @ 0.00051172 = 10.019 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 00:56:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050923 = 2.2004 BTC [-]
Dec 02 00:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7420 @ 0.00050919 = 3.7782 BTC [-]
Dec 02 00:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1227 @ 0.00050909 = 0.6247 BTC [-]
Dec 02 00:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050924 = 2.2004 BTC [+]
Dec 02 00:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3273 @ 0.00050909 = 1.6663 BTC [-]
Dec 02 00:59:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12616 @ 0.00050908 = 6.4226 BTC [-]
Dec 02 00:59:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10290 @ 0.00050899 = 5.2375 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 01:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4260 @ 0.00050899 = 2.1683 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4440 @ 0.00050891 = 2.2596 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050894 = 2.1991 BTC [+]
Dec 02 01:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13310 @ 0.00050891 = 6.7736 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0005089 = 5.3943 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:36:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5469 @ 0.0005089 = 2.7832 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:40:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.0005089 = 10.2289 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005093 = 2.2007 BTC [+]
Dec 02 01:47:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00050932 = 8.633 BTC [+]
Dec 02 01:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8629 @ 0.00050955 = 4.3969 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 01:52:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27153 @ 0.00050955 = 13.8358 BTC [+]
Dec 02 01:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050894 = 2.1991 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.0005089 = 0.4153 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:55:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00050888 = 2.6207 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:55:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00050887 = 2.0355 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:55:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00050876 = 1.8315 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:55:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00050869 = 6.9182 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:55:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3975 @ 0.00050847 = 2.0212 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10375 @ 0.00050847 = 5.2754 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00050841 = 4.3215 BTC [-]
Dec 02 01:59:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16925 @ 0.00050829 = 8.6028 BTC [-]
Dec 02 02:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00050862 = 1.3733 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:10:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00050862 = 11.2914 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:10:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8340 @ 0.00050829 = 4.2391 BTC [-]
Dec 02 02:10:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2560 @ 0.00050817 = 1.3009 BTC [-]
Dec 02 02:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3637 @ 0.00050948 = 1.853 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:27:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 684 @ 0.00050948 = 0.3485 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25268 @ 0.00050955 = 12.8753 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:27:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 848 @ 0.00051172 = 0.4339 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:31:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051153 = 2.2103 BTC [-]
Dec 02 02:31:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4033 @ 0.00051172 = 2.0638 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:31:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.0005119 = 6.2196 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:31:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13846 @ 0.00051293 = 7.102 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051277 = 2.2157 BTC [-]
Dec 02 02:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9404 @ 0.00051293 = 4.8236 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:35:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11361 @ 0.00051519 = 5.8531 BTC [+]
Dec 02 02:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050828 = 2.1963 BTC [-]
Dec 02 02:51:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25869 @ 0.00050817 = 13.1458 BTC [-]
Dec 02 02:51:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4310 @ 0.00050816 = 2.1902 BTC [-]
Dec 02 03:07:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051481 = 2.2245 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9279 @ 0.00051492 = 4.7779 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00051492 = 1.4418 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:22:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9221 @ 0.00051492 = 4.7481 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:22:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3132 @ 0.00051495 = 1.6128 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2739 @ 0.000513 = 1.4051 BTC [-]
Dec 02 03:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050841 = 2.1968 BTC [-]
Dec 02 03:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1440 @ 0.00050816 = 0.7318 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 03:39:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051397 = 2.2209 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:39:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14011 @ 0.00051372 = 7.1977 BTC [-]
Dec 02 03:39:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7868 @ 0.00051039 = 4.0157 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 03:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051063 = 2.2064 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16965 @ 0.00051039 = 8.6588 BTC [-]
Dec 02 03:41:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13346 @ 0.00050816 = 6.7819 BTC [-]
Dec 02 03:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051463 = 2.2237 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:43:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7444 @ 0.00051495 = 3.8333 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4235 @ 0.00051519 = 2.1818 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051501 = 2.2254 BTC [-]
Dec 02 03:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17904 @ 0.00051519 = 9.224 BTC [+]
Dec 02 03:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3775 @ 0.00051656 = 1.95 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:03:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051639 = 2.2313 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:03:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12679 @ 0.00051656 = 6.5495 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5792 @ 0.00051656 = 2.9919 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2108 @ 0.00051661 = 1.089 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:17:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00051661 = 7.2584 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:20:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051093 = 2.2077 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:20:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8179 @ 0.00051058 = 4.176 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051085 = 2.2074 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:30:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6862 @ 0.00051058 = 3.5036 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005107 = 2.2067 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:33:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15259 @ 0.00051058 = 7.7909 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10120 @ 0.0005105 = 5.1663 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15893 @ 0.0005105 = 8.1134 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 04:42:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051643 = 2.2315 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00051661 = 2.3656 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051647 = 2.2317 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7063 @ 0.00051661 = 3.6488 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:44:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00051679 = 2.6356 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17816 @ 0.00051687 = 9.2086 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:45:11 *	EskimoBob (~EskimoBob@unaffiliated/eskimobob) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 04:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051059 = 2.2063 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16487 @ 0.0005105 = 8.4166 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14273 @ 0.00050869 = 7.2605 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119 @ 0.00050816 = 0.0605 BTC [-]
Dec 02 04:55:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050829 = 2.1963 BTC [+]
Dec 02 04:55:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4279 @ 0.00050816 = 2.1744 BTC [-]
Dec 02 05:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00051035 = 13.6263 BTC [+]
Dec 02 05:16:33 *	MiningBuddy- is now known as MiningBuddy
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Dec 02 05:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23483 @ 0.00051015 = 11.9799 BTC [-]
Dec 02 05:17:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2617 @ 0.00050816 = 1.3299 BTC [-]
Dec 02 05:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3989 @ 0.00050816 = 2.0271 BTC [-]
Dec 02 05:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00050813 = 2.7185 BTC [-]
Dec 02 05:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16211 @ 0.00050808 = 8.2365 BTC [-]
Dec 02 05:27:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051025 = 2.2048 BTC [+]
Dec 02 05:27:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00051035 = 0.6635 BTC [+]
Dec 02 05:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13291 @ 0.00051687 = 6.8697 BTC [+]
Dec 02 05:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9538 @ 0.00051708 = 4.9319 BTC [+]
Dec 02 05:29:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050837 = 2.1967 BTC [-]
Dec 02 05:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 839 @ 0.00050808 = 0.4263 BTC [-]
Dec 02 05:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4840 @ 0.000508 = 2.4587 BTC [-]
Dec 02 05:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00051681 = 6.641 BTC [+]
Dec 02 05:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1810 @ 0.000508 = 0.9195 BTC [-]
Dec 02 05:40:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22440 @ 0.00050772 = 11.3932 BTC [-]
Dec 02 06:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051673 = 2.2328 BTC [+]
Dec 02 06:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13712 @ 0.00051708 = 7.0902 BTC [+]
Dec 02 06:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5419 @ 0.00051742 = 2.8039 BTC [+]
Dec 02 06:11:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050776 = 2.194 BTC [-]
Dec 02 06:11:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12260 @ 0.00050772 = 6.2246 BTC [-]
Dec 02 06:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10069 @ 0.0005077 = 5.112 BTC [-]
Dec 02 06:25:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.00333371 = 11.0012 BTC [-]
Dec 02 06:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00051342 = 3.902 BTC [+]
Dec 02 06:33:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6996 @ 0.0005077 = 3.5519 BTC [-]
Dec 02 06:33:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12422 @ 0.0005077 = 6.3066 BTC [-]
Dec 02 06:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051667 = 2.2325 BTC [+]
Dec 02 06:35:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4179 @ 0.00051674 = 2.1595 BTC [+]
Dec 02 06:49:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050773 = 2.1939 BTC [-]
Dec 02 06:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14679 @ 0.0005077 = 7.4525 BTC [-]
Dec 02 06:58:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3749 @ 0.0005077 = 1.9034 BTC [-]
Dec 02 06:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8051 @ 0.00050766 = 4.0872 BTC [-]
Dec 02 07:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051652 = 2.2319 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5329 @ 0.00051674 = 2.7537 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:10:47 *	FabianB (~ogg@p5DE66A57.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 07:14:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1841 @ 0.00329221 = 6.061 BTC [-]
Dec 02 07:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1483 @ 0.00329043 = 4.8797 BTC [-]
Dec 02 07:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051659 = 2.2322 BTC [-]
Dec 02 07:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051662 = 2.2323 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2562 @ 0.00051674 = 1.3239 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26549 @ 0.00051674 = 13.7189 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:22:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14778 @ 0.00051674 = 7.6364 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 07:32:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2692 @ 0.00051674 = 1.3911 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 07:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005144 = 2.2227 BTC [-]
Dec 02 07:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00051415 = 3.2391 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 07:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050776 = 2.194 BTC [-]
Dec 02 07:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9349 @ 0.00050766 = 4.7461 BTC [-]
Dec 02 07:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9580 @ 0.00050763 = 4.8631 BTC [-]
Dec 02 07:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050817 = 2.1958 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:48:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00050824 = 11.9691 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:48:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 979 @ 0.00051284 = 0.5021 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:48:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00051674 = 2.3512 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051649 = 2.2318 BTC [-]
Dec 02 07:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1444 @ 0.00051674 = 0.7462 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8181 @ 0.00051742 = 4.233 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10363 @ 0.00051751 = 5.363 BTC [+]
Dec 02 07:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6991 @ 0.00051824 = 3.623 BTC [+]
Dec 02 08:00:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 214 @ 0.00329043 = 0.7042 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1362 @ 0.00328995 = 4.4809 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:02:52 *	darkee (~darkee@gateway/tor-sasl/darkee) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 08:10:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00328995 = 16.4498 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:17:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050776 = 2.194 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 614 @ 0.00050763 = 0.3117 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050779 = 2.1942 BTC [+]
Dec 02 08:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19479 @ 0.00050763 = 9.8881 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:22:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051796 = 2.2381 BTC [+]
Dec 02 08:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.0005181 = 8.8077 BTC [+]
Dec 02 08:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050797 = 2.1949 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2393 @ 0.00050763 = 1.2148 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005125 = 2.2145 BTC [+]
Dec 02 08:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4729 @ 0.00051265 = 2.4243 BTC [+]
Dec 02 08:41:10 *	darkee has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
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Dec 02 08:49:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051262 = 2.215 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:49:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.00051265 = 2.5525 BTC [+]
Dec 02 08:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00051226 = 11.9613 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:50:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3077 @ 0.00050763 = 1.562 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00050758 = 3.0455 BTC [-]
Dec 02 08:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050765 = 2.1936 BTC [+]
Dec 02 08:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3379 @ 0.0005076 = 1.7152 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:08:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051248 = 2.2144 BTC [+]
Dec 02 09:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1942 @ 0.00051265 = 0.9956 BTC [+]
Dec 02 09:08:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28637 @ 0.00051511 = 14.7512 BTC [+]
Dec 02 09:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3763 @ 0.00051511 = 1.9384 BTC [+]
Dec 02 09:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10776 @ 0.00051722 = 5.5736 BTC [+]
Dec 02 09:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 53 @ 0.00328995 = 0.1744 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:14:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 436 @ 0.00328545 = 1.4325 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17931 @ 0.00051499 = 9.2343 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1585 @ 0.00328545 = 5.2074 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17047 @ 0.00051722 = 8.817 BTC [+]
Dec 02 09:22:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5653 @ 0.00051824 = 2.9296 BTC [+]
Dec 02 09:32:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2114 @ 0.00051499 = 1.0887 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:32:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00050758 = 5.1773 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00050734 = 1.7757 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11819 @ 0.00050729 = 5.9957 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14785 @ 0.00051824 = 7.6622 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 09:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 942 @ 0.00051094 = 0.4813 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:40:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051089 = 2.2076 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27737 @ 0.00051065 = 14.1639 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:51:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005144 = 2.2227 BTC [+]
Dec 02 09:51:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3479 @ 0.0005145 = 1.7899 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 09:53:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051419 = 2.2218 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:53:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17479 @ 0.0005145 = 8.9929 BTC [+]
Dec 02 09:54:45 *	darkee (~darkee@gateway/tor-sasl/darkee) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 09:56:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005107 = 2.2067 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7229 @ 0.00051065 = 3.6915 BTC [-]
Dec 02 09:58:22 *	tonikt (~tonikt@unaffiliated/tonikt) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 10:01:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051084 = 2.2073 BTC [+]
Dec 02 10:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5620 @ 0.00051065 = 2.8699 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:14:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051417 = 2.2217 BTC [+]
Dec 02 10:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7467 @ 0.0005145 = 3.8418 BTC [+]
Dec 02 10:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051079 = 2.2071 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22830 @ 0.00051069 = 11.6591 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:24:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051448 = 2.2231 BTC [+]
Dec 02 10:24:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8529 @ 0.0005145 = 4.3882 BTC [+]
Dec 02 10:26:51 *	mircea_popescu (~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 10:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://imgur.com/r/funny/NWjzU
Dec 02 10:30:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051088 = 2.2075 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4320 @ 0.00051069 = 2.2062 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3409 @ 0.00051065 = 1.7408 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:31:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00051436 = 1.7745 BTC [+]
Dec 02 10:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005108 = 2.2072 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12029 @ 0.00051065 = 6.1426 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0033063 = 3.3063 BTC [+]
Dec 02 10:42:35 *	Jackmaninov (~Jackmanin@chello084114156162.12.15.vie.surfer.at) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 10:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17676 @ 0.00051065 = 9.0262 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1424 @ 0.00050945 = 0.7255 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:49:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00050945 = 12.0994 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 871 @ 0.00051436 = 0.448 BTC [+]
Dec 02 10:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22646 @ 0.0005145 = 11.6514 BTC [+]
Dec 02 10:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4001 @ 0.00051706 = 2.0688 BTC [+]
Dec 02 10:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050976 = 2.2027 BTC [-]
Dec 02 10:56:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13026 @ 0.00050945 = 6.6361 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 11:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00328545 = 3.2855 BTC [-]
Dec 02 11:04:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9384 @ 0.00050733 = 4.7608 BTC [-]
Dec 02 11:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3535 @ 0.00050761 = 1.7944 BTC [+]
Dec 02 11:19:00 *	rdponticelli (~rdpontice@gateway/tor-sasl/rdponticelli) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 11:21:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00050761 = 8.7309 BTC [+]
Dec 02 11:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4465 @ 0.00050761 = 2.2665 BTC [+]
Dec 02 11:28:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1135 @ 0.00050911 = 0.5778 BTC [+]
Dec 02 11:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15318 @ 0.00050911 = 7.7985 BTC [+]
Dec 02 11:29:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14049 @ 0.00051706 = 7.2642 BTC [+]
Dec 02 11:29:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11633 @ 0.00051824 = 6.0287 BTC [+]
Dec 02 11:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005135 = 2.2188 BTC [-]
Dec 02 11:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3224 @ 0.00051371 = 1.6562 BTC [+]
Dec 02 11:38:39 *	da2ce7 (~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 11:52:05 *	ColdHardMetal (~IceChat77@59.24.31.47) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 11:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051368 = 2.2196 BTC [-]
Dec 02 11:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12426 @ 0.00051371 = 6.3834 BTC [+]
Dec 02 11:56:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7353 @ 0.00051456 = 3.7836 BTC [+]
Dec 02 11:58:26 <ColdHardMetal>	;;gpg eauth ColdHardMetal
Dec 02 11:58:27 <gribble>	Request successful for user ColdHardMetal, hostmask ColdHardMetal!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/coldhardmetal. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/0468F54ABEACA9BD
Dec 02 11:59:20 <ColdHardMetal>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:cbe5f3cd1cb816b08bed5f6781ca1c1e7784c2c9011447b67b4a0574
Dec 02 11:59:22 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user ColdHardMetal with key 0468F54ABEACA9BD
Dec 02 11:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051255 = 2.2147 BTC [-]
Dec 02 11:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00051227 = 2.3457 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00051252 = 11.0192 BTC [+]
Dec 02 12:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00051456 = 0.1286 BTC [+]
Dec 02 12:08:43 *	Namjies (~BTC-Minin@modemcable075.132-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 12:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051255 = 2.2147 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:10:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20179 @ 0.00051227 = 10.3371 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:14:37 *	Buglouse has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
Dec 02 12:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00051265 = 6.7157 BTC [+]
Dec 02 12:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25933 @ 0.00051456 = 13.3441 BTC [+]
Dec 02 12:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051425 = 2.2221 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17379 @ 0.00051456 = 8.9425 BTC [+]
Dec 02 12:24:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051426 = 2.2221 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13985 @ 0.00051456 = 7.1961 BTC [+]
Dec 02 12:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5403 @ 0.00051562 = 2.7859 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 12:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051239 = 2.214 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10953 @ 0.00051227 = 5.6109 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051094 = 2.2078 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:42:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12497 @ 0.00051087 = 6.3843 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5332 @ 0.00050733 = 2.7051 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:47:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13739 @ 0.00050733 = 6.9702 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:47:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9281 @ 0.00050729 = 4.7082 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7480 @ 0.00050697 = 3.7921 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:51:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15470 @ 0.00050697 = 7.8428 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:51:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9045 @ 0.00050696 = 4.5855 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:58:28 *	Bugpowder (47ab6a02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.171.106.2) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 12:58:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4664 @ 0.0005118 = 2.387 BTC [+]
Dec 02 12:58:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051543 = 2.2272 BTC [+]
Dec 02 12:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5315 @ 0.00051562 = 2.7405 BTC [+]
Dec 02 12:59:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050712 = 2.1913 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1805 @ 0.00050696 = 0.9151 BTC [-]
Dec 02 12:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11898 @ 0.00050685 = 6.0305 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.0033063 = 1.8185 BTC [+]
Dec 02 13:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4352 @ 0.00050685 = 2.2058 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13711 @ 0.00050679 = 6.9486 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051549 = 2.2274 BTC [+]
Dec 02 13:04:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11382 @ 0.00051562 = 5.8688 BTC [+]
Dec 02 13:04:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5247 @ 0.00051633 = 2.7092 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 13:12:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051631 = 2.231 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:12:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7729 @ 0.00051633 = 3.9907 BTC [+]
Dec 02 13:15:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050703 = 2.1909 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8789 @ 0.00050679 = 4.4542 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:15:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.0005067 = 9.4246 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 590 @ 0.00050662 = 0.2989 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050663 = 2.1891 BTC [+]
Dec 02 13:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7660 @ 0.00050662 = 3.8807 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10719 @ 0.00050658 = 5.43 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051599 = 2.2296 BTC [+]
Dec 02 13:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3029 @ 0.00051633 = 1.564 BTC [+]
Dec 02 13:32:35 *	Bugpowder (47ab6a02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.171.106.2) has left #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 13:33:17 *	pigeons_ is now known as pigeons
Dec 02 13:49:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2836 @ 0.00332656 = 9.4341 BTC [+]
Dec 02 13:51:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051602 = 2.2297 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7879 @ 0.00051633 = 4.0682 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 13:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051618 = 2.2304 BTC [-]
Dec 02 13:58:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 616 @ 0.00051633 = 0.3181 BTC [+]
Dec 02 13:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00051697 = 5.635 BTC [+]
Dec 02 13:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2163 @ 0.0005173 = 1.1189 BTC [+]
Dec 02 14:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051145 = 2.21 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:03:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00051118 = 15.2843 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2679 @ 0.00051008 = 1.3665 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:05:06 *	Buglouse (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 14:10:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5550 @ 0.00331 = 18.3705 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051034 = 2.2052 BTC [+]
Dec 02 14:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5829 @ 0.00051008 = 2.9733 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:18:01 *	Bugpowder (47ab6a02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.171.106.2) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 14:23:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051012 = 2.2042 BTC [+]
Dec 02 14:23:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13819 @ 0.00051008 = 7.0488 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:30:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00051028 = 6.0213 BTC [+]
Dec 02 14:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2973 @ 0.00051008 = 1.5165 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:31:12 *	Gladamas_ (~Gladamas@dyn.198-57-7-31.swissinet.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 14:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1876 @ 0.0005089 = 0.9547 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1124 @ 0.00051606 = 0.5801 BTC [+]
Dec 02 14:44:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00051057 = 4.6717 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 42900 @ 0.00331 = 141.999 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:51:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1386 @ 0.00328545 = 4.5536 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00326791 = 7.5162 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 814 @ 0.0032648 = 2.6575 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3197 @ 0.00051606 = 1.6498 BTC [+]
Dec 02 14:52:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00051638 = 6.7388 BTC [+]
Dec 02 14:52:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11370 @ 0.0005173 = 5.8817 BTC [+]
Dec 02 14:52:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18133 @ 0.00051747 = 9.3833 BTC [+]
Dec 02 14:57:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051058 = 2.2062 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00051057 = 5.0546 BTC [-]
Dec 02 14:57:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1710 @ 0.00050688 = 0.8668 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051721 = 2.2349 BTC [+]
Dec 02 15:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7117 @ 0.00051747 = 3.6828 BTC [+]
Dec 02 15:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3212 @ 0.00051824 = 1.6646 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 15:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051526 = 2.2264 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:18:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16012 @ 0.00051545 = 8.2534 BTC [+]
Dec 02 15:18:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6117 @ 0.00051591 = 3.1558 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 15:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00050801 = 4.7753 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:35:48 <dub>	[14:57] <assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1710 @ 0.00050688 = 0.8668 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:35:52 <dub>	wtf
Dec 02 15:40:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050832 = 2.1965 BTC [+]
Dec 02 15:40:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8679 @ 0.00050821 = 4.4108 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:46:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050844 = 2.197 BTC [+]
Dec 02 15:46:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17721 @ 0.00050821 = 9.006 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:46:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00050801 = 0.4572 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Dec 02 15:50:11 <dub>	mispaste
Dec 02 15:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21491 @ 0.00050688 = 10.8934 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:50:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7853 @ 0.00050679 = 3.9798 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8047 @ 0.00050679 = 4.0781 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7618 @ 0.00050658 = 3.8591 BTC [-]
Dec 02 15:59:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00050742 = 6.0129 BTC [+]
Dec 02 16:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14326 @ 0.00050658 = 7.2573 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7774 @ 0.00050654 = 3.9378 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:02:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4526 @ 0.00050654 = 2.2926 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00050647 = 3.1908 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00050643 = 6.1278 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.0005064 = 7.6466 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13874 @ 0.00050635 = 7.0251 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 16:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4268 @ 0.00050742 = 2.1657 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 16:11:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051562 = 2.228 BTC [+]
Dec 02 16:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10483 @ 0.00051591 = 5.4083 BTC [+]
Dec 02 16:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5996 @ 0.00051596 = 3.0937 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 16:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005086 = 2.1977 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11142 @ 0.00050858 = 5.6666 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13498 @ 0.00050635 = 6.8347 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13889 @ 0.00050632 = 7.0323 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 16:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00050632 = 2.5822 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 16:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8311 @ 0.00050632 = 4.208 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9989 @ 0.00050631 = 5.0575 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:36:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6043 @ 0.00050631 = 3.0596 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:36:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29257 @ 0.00050624 = 14.8111 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 16:46:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14619 @ 0.00050781 = 7.4237 BTC [+]
Dec 02 16:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0005116 = 3.7347 BTC [+]
Dec 02 16:46:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8781 @ 0.00051596 = 4.5306 BTC [+]
Dec 02 16:49:02 *	matt_ (~matt@86.164.7.179) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 16:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051561 = 2.228 BTC [-]
Dec 02 16:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3179 @ 0.00051596 = 1.6402 BTC [+]
Dec 02 16:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3550 @ 0.00326701 = 11.5979 BTC [+]
Dec 02 17:01:50 *	noagendamarket (~dave@unaffiliated/noagendamarket) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 17:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00051589 = 1.5477 BTC [-]
Dec 02 17:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050665 = 2.1892 BTC [-]
Dec 02 17:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00050632 = 7.5948 BTC [-]
Dec 02 17:12:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6693 @ 0.00050624 = 3.3883 BTC [-]
Dec 02 17:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37186 @ 0.00050622 = 18.8243 BTC [-]
Dec 02 17:18:14 *	da2ce777 (~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 17:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00051018 = 8.571 BTC [+]
Dec 02 17:29:22 *	JWU42_ (~JW@c-50-129-250-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 17:35:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00051018 = 8.7751 BTC [+]
Dec 02 17:35:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2514 @ 0.00050622 = 1.2726 BTC [-]
Dec 02 17:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14186 @ 0.00050619 = 7.1808 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 17:45:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00051384 = 8.5811 BTC [+]
Dec 02 17:46:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5971 @ 0.00051384 = 3.0681 BTC [+]
Dec 02 17:48:13 *	JWU42_ is now known as JWU42
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Dec 02 17:51:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25314 @ 0.00050619 = 12.8137 BTC [-]
Dec 02 17:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2386 @ 0.00050618 = 1.2077 BTC [-]
Dec 02 17:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051067 = 2.2066 BTC [+]
Dec 02 17:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00051067 = 1.4958 BTC [+]
Dec 02 17:57:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6583 @ 0.00050899 = 3.3507 BTC [-]
Dec 02 18:04:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24567 @ 0.00050899 = 12.5044 BTC [-]
Dec 02 18:04:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38133 @ 0.00051091 = 19.4825 BTC [+]
Dec 02 18:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4984 @ 0.00051091 = 2.5464 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 18:08:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00051577 = 1.9599 BTC [+]
Dec 02 18:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5830 @ 0.00051132 = 2.981 BTC [-]
Dec 02 18:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1720 @ 0.00050736 = 0.8727 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 18:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00051243 = 8.6344 BTC [+]
Dec 02 18:34:17 *	JWU42 has quit (Quit: Leaving)
Dec 02 18:44:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00051049 = 7.4532 BTC [-]
Dec 02 18:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3530 @ 0.00051596 = 1.8213 BTC [+]
Dec 02 18:44:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9664 @ 0.00051605 = 4.9871 BTC [+]
Dec 02 18:50:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4269 @ 0.00326536 = 13.9398 BTC [-]
Dec 02 18:54:22 *	JWU42 (~JW@unaffiliated/subpar) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 18:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2601 @ 0.00050734 = 1.3196 BTC [-]
Dec 02 18:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5099 @ 0.00050706 = 2.5855 BTC [-]
Dec 02 18:57:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051597 = 2.2295 BTC [+]
Dec 02 18:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17961 @ 0.00051605 = 9.2688 BTC [+]
Dec 02 18:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13175 @ 0.00051605 = 6.799 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.0005174 = 8.8217 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:10:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.0005174 = 2.4318 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:20:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14875 @ 0.00051732 = 7.6951 BTC [-]
Dec 02 19:24:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00051332 = 2.8746 BTC [-]
Dec 02 19:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16475 @ 0.00051332 = 8.4569 BTC [-]
Dec 02 19:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16625 @ 0.0005174 = 8.6018 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:32:29 *	Jackmani_ (~Jackmanin@84.114.156.162) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 19:37:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3416 @ 0.0005174 = 1.7674 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11584 @ 0.00051754 = 5.9952 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 19:39:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1569 @ 0.00332656 = 5.2194 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1054 @ 0.00332977 = 3.5096 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:40:01 *	rg_ is now known as rg
Dec 02 19:42:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14416 @ 0.00051754 = 7.4609 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1377 @ 0.00051824 = 0.7136 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00051857 = 13.5865 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4171 @ 0.000519 = 2.1647 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:46:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00332977 = 7.6585 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:47:52 *	toffoo (~tof@177.192.122.43) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 19:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051548 = 2.2274 BTC [-]
Dec 02 19:49:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00051536 = 8.555 BTC [-]
Dec 02 19:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8001 @ 0.00050706 = 4.057 BTC [-]
Dec 02 19:49:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1328 @ 0.00050654 = 0.6727 BTC [-]
Dec 02 19:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051869 = 2.2413 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10299 @ 0.000519 = 5.3452 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 19:56:17 *	Guest10388 is now known as MrTiggr
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Dec 02 19:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7180 @ 0.000519 = 3.7264 BTC [+]
Dec 02 19:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14420 @ 0.00051915 = 7.4861 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050656 = 2.1888 BTC [-]
Dec 02 20:03:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00050654 = 2.674 BTC [-]
Dec 02 20:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051067 = 2.2066 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44679 @ 0.0005108 = 22.822 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050689 = 2.1903 BTC [-]
Dec 02 20:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22179 @ 0.00050654 = 11.2346 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 20:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00050654 = 13.5753 BTC [-]
Dec 02 20:17:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10636 @ 0.00050654 = 5.3876 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 20:28:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051077 = 2.207 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:28:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6871 @ 0.0005108 = 3.5097 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7930 @ 0.00051915 = 4.1169 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7167 @ 0.00051951 = 3.7233 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14076 @ 0.00051959 = 7.3137 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:29:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00051959 = 3.2215 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00051959 = 4.8582 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:39:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00051959 = 1.6107 BTC [+]
Dec 02 20:39:35 *	dust-otc (~dust-otc@unaffiliated/dust-otc) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 02 20:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050681 = 2.1899 BTC [-]
Dec 02 20:42:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00050666 = 8.7652 BTC [-]
Dec 02 20:42:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15773 @ 0.00050654 = 7.9897 BTC [-]
Dec 02 20:42:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7106 @ 0.00050618 = 3.5969 BTC [-]
Dec 02 20:53:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050618 = 1.5185 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21163 @ 0.00050618 = 10.7123 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:02:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10708 @ 0.00050618 = 5.4202 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14561 @ 0.00050606 = 7.3687 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:11:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11627 @ 0.00050606 = 5.884 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12573 @ 0.00050602 = 6.3622 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 655 @ 0.00050602 = 0.3314 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:26:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00050601 = 9.6395 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:26:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9995 @ 0.00050599 = 5.0574 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:30:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050893 = 2.1991 BTC [+]
Dec 02 21:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13590 @ 0.00050899 = 6.9172 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 21:33:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00332977 = 6.9925 BTC [+]
Dec 02 21:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050619 = 2.1872 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5155 @ 0.00050599 = 2.6084 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12624 @ 0.00050599 = 6.3876 BTC [-]
Dec 02 21:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050883 = 2.1987 BTC [+]
Dec 02 21:44:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 610 @ 0.00050899 = 0.3105 BTC [+]
Dec 02 21:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2869 @ 0.00050914 = 1.4607 BTC [+]
Dec 02 21:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12131 @ 0.00050914 = 6.1764 BTC [+]
Dec 02 21:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11669 @ 0.00050956 = 5.9461 BTC [+]
Dec 02 21:50:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1364 @ 0.00332977 = 4.5418 BTC [+]
Dec 02 21:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17609 @ 0.00050956 = 8.9728 BTC [+]
Dec 02 21:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7291 @ 0.00051102 = 3.7258 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:06:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050627 = 2.1876 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:06:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1276 @ 0.00050599 = 0.6456 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00050586 = 3.9204 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16530 @ 0.00050579 = 8.3607 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10362 @ 0.00050579 = 5.241 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1988 @ 0.00050578 = 1.0055 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:09:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050678 = 2.1898 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:09:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00050711 = 9.0773 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20941 @ 0.0005148 = 10.7804 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:09:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3009 @ 0.00051102 = 1.5377 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:12:49 <Namjies>	Too much MPOE!
Dec 02 22:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050582 = 2.1856 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5912 @ 0.00050578 = 2.9902 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:15:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00050578 = 10.7731 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:15:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9367 @ 0.00050574 = 4.7373 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 02 22:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	there's like... one sdice lost in the sea
Dec 02 22:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00050618 = 5.568 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:18:57 <Namjies>	I see 7 since the last time I checked.
Dec 02 22:19:33 <mircea_popescu>	apparently teh ppl din't like nov results so much.
Dec 02 22:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00051445 = 6.7393 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:23:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00050574 = 0.927 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00050562 = 5.8146 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:23:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12467 @ 0.00050555 = 6.3027 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050626 = 2.1875 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7379 @ 0.00050656 = 3.7379 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050581 = 2.1856 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4133 @ 0.00050555 = 2.0894 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00050554 = 2.8057 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:38:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00050551 = 9.5794 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7546 @ 0.0005055 = 3.8145 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:45:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5354 @ 0.0005055 = 2.7064 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00050547 = 8.3403 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:45:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3246 @ 0.00050532 = 1.6403 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5304 @ 0.00050532 = 2.6802 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14795 @ 0.00050517 = 7.474 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14506 @ 0.00050511 = 7.3271 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050644 = 2.1883 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10939 @ 0.00050656 = 5.5413 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:50:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2240 @ 0.00050934 = 1.1409 BTC [+]
Dec 02 22:59:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050526 = 2.1832 BTC [-]
Dec 02 22:59:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2579 @ 0.00050511 = 1.3027 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:10:10 <Namjies>	What results?
Dec 02 23:11:50 <Namjies>	nvm, I see them
Dec 02 23:12:11 <Namjies>	Ah, well there's good and bad months.
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Dec 02 23:16:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16915 @ 0.00050511 = 8.5439 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:16:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00050503 = 3.5352 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:16:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00050496 = 3.6357 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 23:16:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1135 @ 0.00050489 = 0.5731 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:16:28 *	Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-70-16-78-25.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 02 23:17:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00050489 = 3.509 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:19:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1731 @ 0.00326536 = 5.6523 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:19:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 721 @ 0.0032648 = 2.3539 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.0032587 = 5.051 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 298 @ 0.00325525 = 0.9701 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 23:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4054 @ 0.0005056 = 2.0497 BTC [+]
Dec 02 23:27:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26234 @ 0.0005056 = 13.2639 BTC [+]
Dec 02 23:27:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00050576 = 0.531 BTC [+]
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Dec 02 23:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050567 = 2.185 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:40:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00050576 = 0.5816 BTC [+]
Dec 02 23:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2360 @ 0.00050934 = 1.202 BTC [+]
Dec 02 23:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4069 @ 0.0005148 = 2.0947 BTC [+]
Dec 02 23:41:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050506 = 2.1824 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3529 @ 0.00050489 = 1.7818 BTC [-]
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Dec 02 23:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3750 @ 0.00325525 = 12.2072 BTC [-]
Dec 02 23:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051476 = 2.2243 BTC [+]
Dec 02 23:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6090 @ 0.0005148 = 3.1351 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00051623 = 11.9249 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00051623 = 2.4521 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 652 @ 0.00051959 = 0.3388 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:03:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8348 @ 0.00051962 = 4.3378 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5754 @ 0.00051962 = 2.9899 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10782 @ 0.00051962 = 5.6025 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 00:23:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.0005157 = 3.1458 BTC [-]
Dec 03 00:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.0005157 = 9.7983 BTC [-]
Dec 03 00:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.0005153 = 2.7826 BTC [-]
Dec 03 00:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7380 @ 0.00051962 = 3.8348 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:28:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00051981 = 3.7426 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:28:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4220 @ 0.00051992 = 2.1941 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3989 @ 0.0005153 = 2.0555 BTC [-]
Dec 03 00:34:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29911 @ 0.00050697 = 15.164 BTC [-]
Dec 03 00:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7089 @ 0.00051992 = 3.6857 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6552 @ 0.00051992 = 3.4065 BTC [+]
Dec 03 00:41:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050508 = 2.1825 BTC [-]
Dec 03 00:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4199 @ 0.00050489 = 2.12 BTC [-]
Dec 03 00:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8080 @ 0.00050485 = 4.0792 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 00:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 552 @ 0.00325525 = 1.7969 BTC [-]
Dec 03 00:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2021 @ 0.00325123 = 6.5707 BTC [-]
Dec 03 00:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00050485 = 3.7864 BTC [-]
Dec 03 01:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14384 @ 0.00050485 = 7.2618 BTC [-]
Dec 03 01:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12004 @ 0.00050482 = 6.0599 BTC [-]
Dec 03 01:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051098 = 2.2079 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11979 @ 0.00051127 = 6.1245 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 01:18:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00332977 = 4.9947 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7771 @ 0.00051127 = 3.9731 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14079 @ 0.00051249 = 7.2153 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:24:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1434 @ 0.00051249 = 0.7349 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14530 @ 0.00050896 = 7.3952 BTC [-]
Dec 03 01:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 736 @ 0.00050482 = 0.3715 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 01:34:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050495 = 2.1819 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:34:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00050482 = 0.8476 BTC [-]
Dec 03 01:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050665 = 2.1892 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3379 @ 0.00050692 = 1.7129 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:47:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9272 @ 0.00050692 = 4.7002 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:47:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20987 @ 0.00050703 = 10.641 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:53:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9638 @ 0.00051992 = 5.011 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5412 @ 0.00052019 = 2.8153 BTC [+]
Dec 03 01:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5291 @ 0.00050856 = 2.6908 BTC [-]
Dec 03 01:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19035 @ 0.00050843 = 9.678 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:01:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13966 @ 0.00050843 = 7.1007 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:01:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1334 @ 0.00050535 = 0.6741 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:03:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10058 @ 0.0005148 = 5.1779 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:03:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20177 @ 0.00051592 = 10.4097 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050548 = 2.1842 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10810 @ 0.00050535 = 5.4628 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8661 @ 0.00050482 = 4.3722 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00050482 = 3.3571 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051588 = 2.2291 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6123 @ 0.00051592 = 3.159 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:23:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13328 @ 0.00051964 = 6.9258 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00052019 = 5.41 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00052019 = 7.8549 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2445 @ 0.00051964 = 1.2705 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:45:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.0005134 = 5.1597 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:45:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5128 @ 0.00051245 = 2.6278 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5525 @ 0.00051157 = 2.8264 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 02:47:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10172 @ 0.00052019 = 5.2914 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00052023 = 6.4769 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:47:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78 @ 0.00052059 = 0.0406 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051159 = 2.2106 BTC [-]
Dec 03 02:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00051157 = 5.1924 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 02:52:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005205 = 2.2491 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18922 @ 0.00052059 = 9.8506 BTC [+]
Dec 03 02:52:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2457 @ 0.00052066 = 1.2793 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 02:58:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00052066 = 3.124 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 03:03:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00052041 = 6.6352 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052041 = 2.3418 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00052066 = 2.9417 BTC [+]
Dec 03 03:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051871 = 2.2413 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11879 @ 0.00051851 = 6.1594 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 03:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00051851 = 5.8592 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3521 @ 0.00051851 = 1.8257 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:19:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18879 @ 0.00051391 = 9.7021 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:22:23 *	Shaded (~Shaded@unaffiliated/shaded) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 03 03:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00328158 = 1.6408 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28821 @ 0.00051391 = 14.8114 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2583 @ 0.00051157 = 1.3214 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:31:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 243 @ 0.00050698 = 0.1232 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:38:26 *	UncleScrooge (~UncleScro@199.26.85.34) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 03 03:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16710 @ 0.00051664 = 8.6331 BTC [+]
Dec 03 03:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4560 @ 0.00051655 = 2.3555 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9175 @ 0.00051245 = 4.7017 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 03:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21013 @ 0.00051245 = 10.7681 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12387 @ 0.00050698 = 6.28 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16382 @ 0.00050698 = 8.3053 BTC [-]
Dec 03 03:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3336 @ 0.00050482 = 1.6841 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 04:05:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11960 @ 0.00051827 = 6.1985 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 04:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00050688 = 6.9949 BTC [-]
Dec 03 04:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00050482 = 1.3883 BTC [-]
Dec 03 04:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00050482 = 6.5627 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 04:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00051631 = 1.8587 BTC [+]
Dec 03 04:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10440 @ 0.00051827 = 5.4107 BTC [+]
Dec 03 04:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00052065 = 8.9031 BTC [+]
Dec 03 04:22:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5052 @ 0.00052066 = 2.6304 BTC [+]
Dec 03 04:22:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00052074 = 7.9934 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 04:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00051615 = 2.1678 BTC [-]
Dec 03 04:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00051615 = 8.981 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 04:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00051498 = 5.1498 BTC [-]
Dec 03 04:53:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00051498 = 10.9691 BTC [-]
Dec 03 04:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19054 @ 0.00051379 = 9.7898 BTC [-]
Dec 03 04:53:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1384 @ 0.00050482 = 0.6987 BTC [-]
Dec 03 04:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3863 @ 0.00050477 = 1.9499 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 05:05:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20325 @ 0.00050477 = 10.2595 BTC [-]
Dec 03 05:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00050473 = 2.0442 BTC [-]
Dec 03 05:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5225 @ 0.00050445 = 2.6358 BTC [-]
Dec 03 05:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00051615 = 2.9679 BTC [+]
Dec 03 05:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 842 @ 0.00051615 = 0.4346 BTC [+]
Dec 03 05:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13208 @ 0.0005165 = 6.8219 BTC [+]
Dec 03 05:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00050975 = 12.8967 BTC [-]
Dec 03 05:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00050445 = 0.908 BTC [-]
Dec 03 05:25:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.00050445 = 11.6276 BTC [-]
Dec 03 05:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50 @ 0.00050443 = 0.0252 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 05:45:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29173 @ 0.00050472 = 14.7242 BTC [+]
Dec 03 05:45:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5127 @ 0.00050967 = 2.6131 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 05:51:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00050967 = 5.8612 BTC [+]
Dec 03 05:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00050443 = 5.6496 BTC [-]
Dec 03 05:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00050441 = 4.918 BTC [-]
Dec 03 05:54:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00050437 = 2.6479 BTC [-]
Dec 03 05:54:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00050431 = 0.6304 BTC [-]
Dec 03 06:03:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00050734 = 1.6235 BTC [+]
Dec 03 06:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16693 @ 0.00050559 = 8.4398 BTC [-]
Dec 03 06:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12552 @ 0.00050431 = 6.3301 BTC [-]
Dec 03 06:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30848 @ 0.00050431 = 15.557 BTC [-]
Dec 03 06:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00050425 = 7.6142 BTC [-]
Dec 03 06:12:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00050422 = 5.5464 BTC [-]
Dec 03 06:12:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4052 @ 0.00050422 = 2.0431 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 06:14:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050728 = 2.192 BTC [+]
Dec 03 06:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17829 @ 0.00050734 = 9.0454 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 06:23:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050427 = 2.179 BTC [-]
Dec 03 06:23:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16673 @ 0.00050422 = 8.4069 BTC [-]
Dec 03 06:23:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1406 @ 0.0005042 = 0.7089 BTC [-]
Dec 03 06:25:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050733 = 2.1922 BTC [+]
Dec 03 06:25:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6771 @ 0.00050734 = 3.4352 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 06:31:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11373 @ 0.00050967 = 5.7965 BTC [+]
Dec 03 06:31:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12866 @ 0.00051209 = 6.5885 BTC [+]
Dec 03 06:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7161 @ 0.00051505 = 3.6883 BTC [+]
Dec 03 06:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2639 @ 0.00050821 = 1.3412 BTC [-]
Dec 03 06:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21892 @ 0.0005165 = 11.3072 BTC [+]
Dec 03 06:44:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6058 @ 0.00051816 = 3.139 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 06:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10442 @ 0.00051816 = 5.4106 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7940 @ 0.00051839 = 4.116 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:02:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00328158 = 6.5632 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:02:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 679 @ 0.00325123 = 2.2076 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:02:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 794 @ 0.00325044 = 2.5808 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4268 @ 0.00051839 = 2.2125 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00051132 = 6.8006 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17832 @ 0.00050821 = 9.0624 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 07:13:39 <RainbowDash>	look at me I'm RainbowDash
Dec 03 07:13:45 <RainbowDash>	I don't set enforce on my nick
Dec 03 07:13:48 <RainbowDash>	meh meh meh meh meh
Dec 03 07:13:52 <RainbowDash>	I have a tiny penis
Dec 03 07:13:57 <RainbowDash>	and like sex with men
Dec 03 07:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00051738 = 15.1592 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:14:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00051992 = 0.8839 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:19:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3189 @ 0.00051992 = 1.658 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22011 @ 0.00051992 = 11.444 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00052064 = 9.6318 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11770 @ 0.00052074 = 6.1291 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:22:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00052076 = 1.1977 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:22:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00052079 = 2.9945 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:24:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3137 @ 0.00050821 = 1.5943 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:26:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 280 @ 0.00332977 = 0.9323 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 07:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00050701 = 12.4217 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:34:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.0005066 = 4.8887 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14085 @ 0.00050727 = 7.1449 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:38:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6693 @ 0.00051071 = 3.4182 BTC [+]
Dec 03 07:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.0005104 = 9.2382 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:43:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8344 @ 0.00050986 = 4.2543 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050692 = 2.1904 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17929 @ 0.0005066 = 9.0828 BTC [-]
Dec 03 07:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00050831 = 16.4692 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 08:03:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00050831 = 0.915 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:03:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3921 @ 0.0005066 = 1.9864 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:03:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10062 @ 0.0005042 = 5.0733 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15504 @ 0.00050404 = 7.8146 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:03:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6063 @ 0.00050402 = 3.0559 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:06:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23337 @ 0.00050402 = 11.7623 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:06:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1763 @ 0.00050399 = 0.8885 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:10:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050973 = 2.2025 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4856 @ 0.00050986 = 2.4759 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:10:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12593 @ 0.00051071 = 6.4314 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:11:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050411 = 2.1783 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9337 @ 0.00050399 = 4.7058 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7310 @ 0.00050396 = 3.6839 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 08:16:09 *	Pasha is now known as Cory
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Dec 03 08:20:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 4 @ 0.24231123 = 0.9692 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 08:25:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00050513 = 9.547 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00050513 = 0.5051 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00050396 = 7.4082 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:33:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3790 @ 0.00050396 = 1.91 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:33:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00050394 = 3.8551 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:33:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14010 @ 0.00050388 = 7.0594 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005104 = 2.2054 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:34:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2414 @ 0.00051071 = 1.2329 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 756 @ 0.00325044 = 2.4573 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2244 @ 0.00325008 = 7.2932 BTC [-]
Dec 03 08:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00051754 = 8.3583 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:40:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00051754 = 3.0276 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:40:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8710 @ 0.00052079 = 4.5361 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:40:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140 @ 0.00052091 = 0.0729 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00051191 = 7.2691 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 08:53:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7698 @ 0.00051727 = 3.9819 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3392 @ 0.00332977 = 11.2946 BTC [+]
Dec 03 08:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2752 @ 0.00051727 = 1.4235 BTC [+]
Dec 03 09:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 148 @ 0.00051404 = 0.0761 BTC [-]
Dec 03 09:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7310 @ 0.00052091 = 3.8079 BTC [+]
Dec 03 09:11:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29270 @ 0.00052095 = 15.2482 BTC [+]
Dec 03 09:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00052102 = 4.6631 BTC [+]
Dec 03 09:11:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9422 @ 0.00052109 = 4.9097 BTC [+]
Dec 03 09:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	Tax hitmen to track your spending
Dec 03 09:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	Up to two million people are to have their credit files secretly checked under a crackdown on tax evasion to be unveiled by George Osborne to help raise another £10 billion.
Dec 03 09:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Dec 03 09:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	o, aren't credit cards great.
Dec 03 09:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21678 @ 0.00052109 = 11.2962 BTC [+]
Dec 03 09:23:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7880 @ 0.00052134 = 4.1082 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 09:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00052134 = 5.7608 BTC [+]
Dec 03 09:29:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00051741 = 9.0029 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 09:40:44 <leotreasure>	new track - http://soundcloud.com/djleo/what-is-bitcoin
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Dec 03 10:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00051566 = 0.1031 BTC [-]
Dec 03 10:01:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00051858 = 4.4339 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 10:09:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00051858 = 7.4676 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:09:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00052134 = 2.8934 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 10:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12120 @ 0.00052134 = 6.3186 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9337 @ 0.00052138 = 4.8681 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:15:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 363 @ 0.00052138 = 0.1893 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14555 @ 0.00052148 = 7.5901 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:22:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11158 @ 0.00052148 = 5.8187 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:22:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00052198 = 1.2789 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92 @ 0.00052218 = 0.048 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 110 @ 0.00332977 = 0.3663 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.00334478 = 10.7033 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:24:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1940 @ 0.00334686 = 6.4929 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 10:32:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26158 @ 0.00052218 = 13.6592 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:32:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13242 @ 0.00052254 = 6.9195 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 10:48:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00052254 = 6.6624 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 10:59:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4058 @ 0.00052254 = 2.1205 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:59:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2728 @ 0.00052263 = 1.4257 BTC [+]
Dec 03 10:59:27 *	Buglouse (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 03 11:04:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7172 @ 0.00052263 = 3.7483 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:04:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00052264 = 3.2142 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:04:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2222 @ 0.0005227 = 1.1614 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 11:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00052111 = 3.5957 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:13:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9427 @ 0.00051579 = 4.8624 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:15:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 134 @ 0.00334686 = 0.4485 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:15:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2740 @ 0.00335332 = 9.1881 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:16:26 *	Buglouse (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 03 11:18:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.00331855 = 8.9601 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26178 @ 0.0005227 = 13.6832 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00052281 = 6.875 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00052307 = 4.6815 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8072 @ 0.00052311 = 4.2225 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16028 @ 0.00052311 = 8.3844 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:23:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9221 @ 0.00052322 = 4.8246 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:23:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5651 @ 0.00052323 = 2.9568 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:25:39 *	knotwork (~markm@142.68.139.234) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 03 11:26:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00051579 = 13.1526 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:30:14 *	da2ce7_d (~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 03 11:32:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00051897 = 7.058 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2809 @ 0.00051579 = 1.4489 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7512 @ 0.0005138 = 3.8597 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 11:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4679 @ 0.00051328 = 2.4016 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26221 @ 0.00052323 = 13.7196 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 11:36:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051205 = 2.2126 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7815 @ 0.00051191 = 4.0006 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10464 @ 0.00050995 = 5.3361 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9886 @ 0.00050995 = 5.0414 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:38:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 314 @ 0.00050963 = 0.16 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 11:47:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16486 @ 0.00050963 = 8.4018 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12858 @ 0.00050936 = 6.5494 BTC [-]
Dec 03 11:52:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052315 = 2.2605 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:52:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2428 @ 0.00052323 = 1.2704 BTC [+]
Dec 03 11:52:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12101 @ 0.00052342 = 6.3339 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 12:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3507 @ 0.00052342 = 1.8356 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00052342 = 5.1295 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1759 @ 0.00335332 = 5.8985 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050956 = 2.2018 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92 @ 0.00050936 = 0.0469 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8642 @ 0.00050923 = 4.4008 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12595 @ 0.00050922 = 6.4136 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 12:20:37 <jurov>	RIP #bitcoin-assets
Dec 03 12:22:09 <mod6>	hrm?
Dec 03 12:22:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052113 = 2.2518 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:22:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12579 @ 0.00052125 = 6.5568 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005094 = 2.2011 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4034 @ 0.00050922 = 2.0542 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:25:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21126 @ 0.00050906 = 10.7544 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:26:11 <kakobrekla>	its just a flesh wound.
Dec 03 12:27:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050909 = 2.1998 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8424 @ 0.00050906 = 4.2883 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1155 @ 0.00050837 = 0.5872 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:30:26 <smickles>	jurov: whatnow?
Dec 03 12:30:49 <smickles>	oh lol, i'm not here for a couple days, and nothing happens
Dec 03 12:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052094 = 2.251 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7320 @ 0.00052125 = 3.8156 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:31:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 404 @ 0.00052342 = 0.2115 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:31:19 <smickles>	kakobrekla: what happened to that fireball guy getting icbit to stream here?
Dec 03 12:31:30 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Dec 03 12:31:49 <kakobrekla>	he got lost?
Dec 03 12:34:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00331855 = 1.9911 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:34:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1206 @ 0.00325008 = 3.9196 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1524 @ 0.00323843 = 4.9354 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:35:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 740 @ 0.00335332 = 2.4815 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:35:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3450 @ 0.00335673 = 11.5807 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 510 @ 0.00336627 = 1.7168 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 12:39:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052315 = 2.2605 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:39:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1529 @ 0.00052342 = 0.8003 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2709 @ 0.00052342 = 1.4179 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00052361 = 6.388 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12342 @ 0.00052361 = 6.4624 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:44:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00052362 = 1.4138 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5699 @ 0.00052367 = 2.9844 BTC [+]
Dec 03 12:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5614 @ 0.00051758 = 2.9057 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:48:46 <jurov>	anyine trying dragon's tale? i made it to the bar but never saw anyone, just name tags floating around
Dec 03 12:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7045 @ 0.00051037 = 3.5956 BTC [-]
Dec 03 12:52:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3755 @ 0.00050883 = 1.9107 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 13:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13136 @ 0.00051635 = 6.7828 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:01:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5464 @ 0.00052367 = 2.8613 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15537 @ 0.00052367 = 8.1363 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10613 @ 0.00052373 = 5.5583 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:03:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 187 @ 0.00052373 = 0.0979 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7381 @ 0.00052375 = 3.8658 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10919 @ 0.00052381 = 5.7195 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051053 = 2.206 BTC [-]
Dec 03 13:07:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14579 @ 0.00051031 = 7.4398 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 13:26:40 *	Guest34996 is now known as DeaDTerra1
Dec 03 13:27:05 <DeaDTerra1>	I get an error when I try to STAT my MPEX account
Dec 03 13:27:14 <DeaDTerra1>	I get the error that there is no public key
Dec 03 13:27:47 <smickles>	did you --search-key and sign the MPEx key?
Dec 03 13:27:57 <kakobrekla>	works here
Dec 03 13:28:15 <DeaDTerra1>	Yep
Dec 03 13:28:20 <DeaDTerra1>	it was not found on the key server
Dec 03 13:28:26 <DeaDTerra1>	but it worked before for me
Dec 03 13:28:50 <DeaDTerra1>	F1B69921 was the previous public key, but it seems like it has changed to 2FB7B452 according to the FAQ
Dec 03 13:29:03 <smickles>	oh?
Dec 03 13:29:12 <smickles>	strange, i haven't noticed a change
Dec 03 13:29:31 <kakobrekla>	hm
Dec 03 13:29:36 <kakobrekla>	i used f1b just now
Dec 03 13:29:45 <kakobrekla>	2fb is mps personal
Dec 03 13:29:51 <smickles>	^
Dec 03 13:29:54 <kakobrekla>	in my ring
Dec 03 13:29:59 <smickles>	that's to get your key in the DB
Dec 03 13:30:09 <smickles>	not the key to use with the exchange orders
Dec 03 13:30:35 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#6
Dec 03 13:31:37 <DeaDTerra1>	I already have it in my database
Dec 03 13:31:39 <DeaDTerra1>	I have used it before
Dec 03 13:31:46 <DeaDTerra1>	it's just now that I get this error
Dec 03 13:32:01 <DeaDTerra1>	"encryption failed no public key"
Dec 03 13:33:44 <DeaDTerra1>	I guess I will have to wait for the MPEX admin
Dec 03 13:34:10 <jurov>	mpex.py has F1B69921 hardwired and still works here
Dec 03 13:34:31 <DeaDTerra1>	That's very odd
Dec 03 13:34:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00051356 = 11.9146 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:34:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3354 @ 0.00051031 = 1.7116 BTC [-]
Dec 03 13:34:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1096 @ 0.00050859 = 0.5574 BTC [-]
Dec 03 13:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00050837 = 4.9566 BTC [-]
Dec 03 13:35:30 <jurov>	DeaDTerra1, didn't perhaps your private key expire?
Dec 03 13:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052362 = 2.2626 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:36:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9881 @ 0.00052381 = 5.1758 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:36:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20198 @ 0.00052383 = 10.5803 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:38:13 <DeaDTerra1>	Nope I don't think so
Dec 03 13:39:31 <Bugpowder>	STAT still works here withF1B
Dec 03 13:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 566 @ 0.00050862 = 0.2879 BTC [-]
Dec 03 13:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13434 @ 0.00050837 = 6.8294 BTC [-]
Dec 03 13:41:13 <Bugpowder>	btw- who are the jokers that keep adding 1 satoshi to their order for S.BVPS, leapfrogging the other.  It's not like anyone is going to sell for 220000 satoshi.  That would be a 2.5% monthly dividend yield.
Dec 03 13:43:59 <DeaDTerra1>	I made it work
Dec 03 13:44:05 <DeaDTerra1>	I switched my GPG program
Dec 03 13:45:50 <jurov>	DeaDTerra1, while I have you here, you definitely decided to move to BTCT?
Dec 03 13:46:04 <jurov>	the GSDPT operation
Dec 03 13:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8286 @ 0.00051391 = 4.2583 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050852 = 2.1973 BTC [-]
Dec 03 13:48:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9393 @ 0.00050837 = 4.7751 BTC [-]
Dec 03 13:53:02 *	Ukto yawns
Dec 03 13:53:04 <Ukto>	well
Dec 03 13:53:09 <Ukto>	BF is ready to launch
Dec 03 13:53:42 <Ukto>	whenever one of the first issuers is ready. a tiny issuer from GBLSE is ready, but needs to clean up his asset description first
Dec 03 13:54:20 <jurov>	what is BF?
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Dec 03 13:54:57 <Ukto>	my GLBSE replacement. :)
Dec 03 13:56:01 <jurov>	why can't all you dudes just make one good glbbq replacement together?
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Dec 03 13:56:08 <Ukto>	i think I did
Dec 03 13:56:13 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 03 13:56:16 <Ukto>	you tell me
Dec 03 13:56:20 <Ukto>	https://www.bitfunder.com
Dec 03 13:56:23 <Ukto>	make an account and poke around
Dec 03 13:56:26 <Ukto>	its in test mode atm
Dec 03 13:56:30 <Ukto>	ill give you some btc's
Dec 03 13:57:58 <Ukto>	spent the weekend triple checking security, etc
Dec 03 13:58:13 <dub>	A man hurt other people and refuse to act to compensate, he will be revenged.
Dec 03 13:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00051658 = 3.771 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:58:59 <jurov>	dub, that's exquisite piece of engrish, where it's from?
Dec 03 13:59:25 <dub>	just a forum mod
Dec 03 13:59:27 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126748.0
Dec 03 13:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00329515 = 5.2722 BTC [-]
Dec 03 13:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00332817 = 1.6641 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3985 @ 0.00336627 = 13.4146 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00336683 = 8.4171 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00338498 = 8.8009 BTC [+]
Dec 03 13:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6816 @ 0.00339997 = 23.1742 BTC [+]
Dec 03 14:02:21 <Ukto>	LOL "I don't want no one stay in the trouble of man-made night mare."
Dec 03 14:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00051658 = 3.3578 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 14:04:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051475 = 2.2242 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:04:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00051481 = 1.4821 BTC [+]
Dec 03 14:06:19 <jurov>	Ukto, registered as "admin", waiting for registration code
Dec 03 14:06:42 <Ukto>	just a username
Dec 03 14:06:52 <Ukto>	would prolly get force-changed
Dec 03 14:06:56 <Ukto>	'display' name
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Dec 03 14:07:37 <Ukto>	as of right now, unless you are an issuer
Dec 03 14:07:42 <Ukto>	that field is useless
Dec 03 14:08:08 <Ukto>	once I put up the discussion system, it will be reviewed, and you will get forced to change it.
Dec 03 14:09:02 <Ukto>	besides. current DB will be wiped
Dec 03 14:09:13 <Ukto>	when we go 'live'
Dec 03 14:09:14 <Ukto>	at any time
Dec 03 14:09:30 <jurov>	Ukto, I asked about registration code, will i get it, or not?
Dec 03 14:10:18 <Ukto>	yes
Dec 03 14:10:34 <Ukto>	except
Dec 03 14:10:37 <Ukto>	it didnt fill in the email
Dec 03 14:10:39 <Ukto>	hmm
Dec 03 14:11:19 <Ukto>	n/m misread that
Dec 03 14:11:21 <Ukto>	you should getit
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Dec 03 14:13:20 <jurov>	Sorry, that verification code is invalid.
Dec 03 14:13:22 <jurov>	Array ( )
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Dec 03 14:13:36 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 03 14:14:02 <Ukto>	pm me the code you used
Dec 03 14:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005092 = 2.2003 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:18:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6429 @ 0.0005094 = 3.2749 BTC [+]
Dec 03 14:23:19 <jurov>	http://bitfunder.com/asset/%5C%27;drop%20table%20%22assets%22
Dec 03 14:23:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050842 = 2.1969 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:23:53 <Ukto>	yup
Dec 03 14:23:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2892 @ 0.00050837 = 1.4702 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:23:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22182 @ 0.00050802 = 11.2689 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:23:56 <Ukto>	wont do a thing
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Dec 03 14:24:57 <jurov>	you say :P
Dec 03 14:25:05 <Ukto>	didnt drop them did it?
Dec 03 14:25:16 <Ukto>	:P
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Dec 03 14:25:50 <Ukto>	feel free to poke at it
Dec 03 14:25:50 <jurov>	and why https isn't forced?
Dec 03 14:26:00 <Ukto>	was just doing it
Dec 03 14:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050818 = 2.1958 BTC [+]
Dec 03 14:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7529 @ 0.00050802 = 3.8249 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:26:08 <Ukto>	going through my last 3~5 things
Dec 03 14:26:10 <Ukto>	minor on the list
Dec 03 14:26:13 <Ukto>	well
Dec 03 14:26:16 <Ukto>	not 'minor'
Dec 03 14:26:20 <Ukto>	just quick things
Dec 03 14:26:41 <Ukto>	still debating enforcing 2fa to 'sell' if enabled
Dec 03 14:26:54 <Ukto>	look at the btsee-mining asset
Dec 03 14:26:59 <Ukto>	profile has the most test info
Dec 03 14:27:30 <Ukto>	in fact, the oldest news item on there is the bset. ;)
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Dec 03 14:28:43 <Ukto>	gave you some play btc
Dec 03 14:28:46 <Ukto>	to buy/sell with
Dec 03 14:28:54 <jurov>	oh, so BTSEE-Mining is PPT?
Dec 03 14:29:05 <Ukto>	they are just fake assets
Dec 03 14:29:06 <Ukto>	hehe
Dec 03 14:29:16 <kakobrekla>	just like GLBSE
Dec 03 14:29:22 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 03 14:29:26 <Ukto>	nice :P
Dec 03 14:29:40 <Ukto>	I can already feel the love
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Dec 03 14:30:11 <jurov>	Ukto, wait till mpoe-pr descends :D
Dec 03 14:30:11 <Namjies>	What?
Dec 03 14:30:21 <Ukto>	hes seen it :)
Dec 03 14:30:32 <gigavps>	-pr is a she supposedly
Dec 03 14:30:38 <Ukto>	er whoops
Dec 03 14:30:49 <Ukto>	missed the s
Dec 03 14:30:50 <Ukto>	:)
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Dec 03 14:31:32 <jurov>	Oh, and how is the "Claim GLBSE assets" supposed to work? So that I can harvest all the emails and claim them myself?
Dec 03 14:31:36 <jurov>	that would be nice
Dec 03 14:31:48 <Ukto>	it woudl woudlnt it?
Dec 03 14:31:49 <Namjies>	BTSEE-Mining?
Dec 03 14:31:53 <Ukto>	Namjies: renamed lol
Dec 03 14:32:05 <Ukto>	since the market page is public even in test mode
Dec 03 14:32:11 <Ukto>	i wanted to be sure ppl didnt get confused
Dec 03 14:32:26 <Namjies>	ah
Dec 03 14:32:49 <Namjies>	Yeah, I was wondering what was up with the weird spin-up on the name.
Dec 03 14:33:10 <Ukto>	jurov: you can only access claims you are email verified for. if you need to claim for a seperate email, it will send a verify email to that too
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Dec 03 14:35:54 <Ukto>	jurov: any other nifty discoveries? :P
Dec 03 14:36:10 <jurov>	price graphs with polynomial smoothing.. wtf?
Dec 03 14:36:19 <Ukto>	hahaha
Dec 03 14:36:23 <Ukto>	was waiting for that
Dec 03 14:37:04 <Ukto>	some ppl prefer it funny enough. not real traders
Dec 03 14:37:07 <Ukto>	but its a settings option
Dec 03 14:37:11 <Ukto>	ment to disable it by default
Dec 03 14:37:30 <jurov>	like, someone actually requested it?
Dec 03 14:37:41 <Ukto>	I shows ppl with and without
Dec 03 14:37:44 <Ukto>	and most said with
Dec 03 14:37:50 <Ukto>	so i decided to make it option
Dec 03 14:37:55 <Ukto>	it realyl shouldnt have it
Dec 03 14:38:43 <elgrecoFL>	
Dec 03 14:39:18 <jurov>	and to deposit bitcoins, i apparently need to register to some invitation-only site? lmao
Dec 03 14:39:34 <Ukto>	yup
Dec 03 14:39:41 <Ukto>	lots of ppl have accounts already
Dec 03 14:40:11 <Ukto>	althoguh weex will prolly be removing invite only fairly soon
Dec 03 14:40:32 <Ukto>	and its not entirely hard to get an invite from the hundreds of ppl who have them
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Dec 03 14:44:55 <jurov>	oh and as the recommendation for bitcoin retail goes, bitfudder is missing a slut on frontpage
Dec 03 14:45:07 <jurov>	:D
Dec 03 14:45:13 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 03 14:46:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1038 @ 0.00050802 = 0.5273 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00050725 = 2.8406 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.0005072 = 2.4853 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:46:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9462 @ 0.00050688 = 4.7961 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:52:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9973 @ 0.00050688 = 5.0551 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13265 @ 0.00050688 = 6.7238 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6685 @ 0.00050662 = 3.3868 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 14:57:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2763 @ 0.00050662 = 1.3998 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30173 @ 0.00050639 = 15.2793 BTC [-]
Dec 03 14:57:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10564 @ 0.00050478 = 5.3325 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 15:15:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3148 @ 0.00050478 = 1.589 BTC [-]
Dec 03 15:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00050444 = 3.8337 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 15:30:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00050418 = 2.6974 BTC [-]
Dec 03 15:30:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00050402 = 2.9233 BTC [-]
Dec 03 15:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 76 @ 0.00323843 = 0.2461 BTC [-]
Dec 03 15:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2332 @ 0.00323811 = 7.5513 BTC [-]
Dec 03 15:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1799 @ 0.00323801 = 5.8252 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 15:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00050422 = 4.6388 BTC [+]
Dec 03 15:53:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3602 @ 0.00050444 = 1.817 BTC [+]
Dec 03 15:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00050586 = 9.3078 BTC [+]
Dec 03 15:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6813 @ 0.0005094 = 3.4705 BTC [+]
Dec 03 15:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4461 @ 0.00050975 = 2.274 BTC [+]
Dec 03 15:57:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050973 = 2.2025 BTC [-]
Dec 03 15:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10539 @ 0.00050975 = 5.3723 BTC [+]
Dec 03 15:57:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21280 @ 0.00051238 = 10.9034 BTC [+]
Dec 03 15:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13060 @ 0.00051286 = 6.698 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 16:01:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050412 = 2.1783 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:01:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00050402 = 8.8708 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:01:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 340 @ 0.00050388 = 0.1713 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:01:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00050381 = 6.2472 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00050377 = 9.9243 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 257 @ 0.00050373 = 0.1295 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 16:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00050373 = 9.5457 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 16:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051255 = 2.2147 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16040 @ 0.00051286 = 8.2263 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139 @ 0.00051338 = 0.0714 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:22:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051304 = 2.2168 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:22:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17329 @ 0.00051338 = 8.8964 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00051336 = 1.2321 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1921 @ 0.00051336 = 0.9862 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:26:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8289 @ 0.00051338 = 4.2554 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1240 @ 0.0005146 = 0.6381 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 16:29:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051152 = 2.2103 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15080 @ 0.00051146 = 7.7128 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:30:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005145 = 2.2232 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20329 @ 0.0005146 = 10.4613 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 16:34:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005116 = 2.2106 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:34:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10792 @ 0.00051146 = 5.5197 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:34:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1594 @ 0.00050456 = 0.8043 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 16:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005099 = 2.2033 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:38:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23226 @ 0.00050965 = 11.8371 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3094 @ 0.00050456 = 1.5611 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050469 = 2.1808 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17679 @ 0.00050456 = 8.9201 BTC [-]
Dec 03 16:44:49 <mircea_popescu>	o hello!
Dec 03 16:45:47 <Namjies>	Hello Mr. MP
Dec 03 16:45:55 <Ukto>	morning? :P
Dec 03 16:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	hello mr... hm. N ?
Dec 03 16:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	actually it's 11 at night here lol
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Dec 03 16:46:53 <jurov>	morning will be soon
Dec 03 16:47:30 <Namjies>	For me, at night is past 2 am. So it's 11 am...
Dec 03 16:47:49 <Namjies>	My logic here might be flawed.
Dec 03 16:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha you need sleep mebbe
Dec 03 16:48:26 <Namjies>	From 3-4 to 10-11
Dec 03 16:49:21 <Namjies>	Now who's selling that big stack of 100 000 BVPS?
Dec 03 16:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Dec 03 16:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	someone bought all the shares and listed them higher price ?
Dec 03 16:50:29 <Namjies>	Apparently, yes
Dec 03 16:50:40 <mircea_popescu>	interesting.
Dec 03 16:50:56 *	mircea_popescu looks to see if he's got any left
Dec 03 16:51:12 *	Ukto resells mircea_popescu
Dec 03 16:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 03 16:51:51 <Namjies>	Oh... you're reselling it? Where the heck did you purchase the MP?
Dec 03 16:51:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4898 @ 0.00051329 = 2.5141 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:52:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051449 = 2.2231 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12931 @ 0.0005146 = 6.6543 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00051481 = 4.762 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 611 @ 0.00339997 = 2.0774 BTC [+]
Dec 03 16:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	flea market ?
Dec 03 16:56:44 <Namjies>	I was not aware such thing were available at the flea market.
Dec 03 16:57:35 <Ukto>	er
Dec 03 16:57:36 <Ukto>	i didnt
Dec 03 16:57:38 <Ukto>	was making a joke
Dec 03 17:02:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051217 = 2.2131 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:02:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14829 @ 0.00051185 = 7.5902 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:02:38 <jurov>	no it isn't a joke, they have a photo when that happened
Dec 03 17:02:48 <jurov>	it's on frontpage of polimedia.us
Dec 03 17:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 03 17:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	actually, that photo is me (taking it) having my shit (center) hauled over the mexico/guatemala border at an illegal crossing point
Dec 03 17:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	by some locals who carried it about 3 miles through the jungle uphill for 75 cents each
Dec 03 17:03:50 <mircea_popescu>	one was 13.
Dec 03 17:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	the other was his father.
Dec 03 17:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	(i think)
Dec 03 17:05:47 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 03 17:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	i happen to think it's a wonderful depiction of "we'll get shit done".
Dec 03 17:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	guy is wearing an authentic traditional sweated and a baseball cap, it's quite the piece.
Dec 03 17:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3700 @ 0.00339377 = 12.5569 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:09:10 <jurov>	hm, without this context it isn't so clear at all
Dec 03 17:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Dec 03 17:09:56 <mircea_popescu>	that's also quite caracteristic. without the vast reams of context it's usually quite unclear wtf i'm on about.
Dec 03 17:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051476 = 2.2243 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1305 @ 0.00051481 = 0.6718 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00051489 = 2.214 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:11:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00051721 = 7.1892 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2963 @ 0.00052095 = 1.5436 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6698 @ 0.00052339 = 3.5057 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00052034 = 5.3595 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00052307 = 1.4123 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:16:58 <dub>	when you bash the funny bone one something it is really not very funny
Dec 03 17:17:34 <dub>	perhaps the least aptly named bone
Dec 03 17:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	what's with modern man's expectation of enjoyment in anything and everything!
Dec 03 17:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	it IS funny, it's just that funny doesn't mean what you think it does.
Dec 03 17:19:27 <dub>	it is not funny either way
Dec 03 17:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	ever heard the expression "does this taste funny" ?
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Dec 03 17:30:26 <dub>	fuck
Dec 03 17:30:32 <dub>	another fucking parking ticket
Dec 03 17:32:26 <dub>	what a cunt of a day, smashed unfunny bone, parking ticket, wrangling most retarded firewalls in universe
Dec 03 17:35:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00051227 = 14.1899 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00051736 = 0.8795 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	;;google life of brian song
Dec 03 17:36:34 <gribble>	Life of Brian ( Song) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlTfNqG-Bow>; Life of Brian - Song - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jugBnmYp4Js>; Life of Brian Opening Animation - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkWjf9DhlnA>
Dec 03 17:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1621 @ 0.00051706 = 0.8382 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051713 = 2.2345 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:43:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13004 @ 0.00051736 = 6.7277 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons  : [Need] 100 BTC loan, I defaulted with others - Will pay 10.5 btc monthly minimum
Dec 03 17:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	forum 5987695769 : bitcoinjam 5987695768
Dec 03 17:45:14 <Ukto>	ROFLOL
Dec 03 17:45:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051227 = 2.2135 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:45:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00051214 = 7.7589 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7471 @ 0.00051185 = 3.824 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:46:12 <jurov>	mircea, have you seen this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126748.0 ?
Dec 03 17:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	let's see
Dec 03 17:46:33 <jurov>	another 10 points for forum and its staff.
Dec 03 17:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Dec 03 17:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	I'm still giving him the time. He can still ends this clearly. Nefario must release the csv file to all the users.
Dec 03 17:47:37 <mircea_popescu>	if he means cleanly he's insane lmao
Dec 03 17:48:06 <jurov>	be patient, the best ones are in the end
Dec 03 17:48:08 <mircea_popescu>	giga already ate a bucket of dry sand over the "cleanliness" of nefario's closing, what, is he going to repay his lawyer & make all the forum howlers happy ?
Dec 03 17:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 03 17:49:30 <mircea_popescu>	that needs some quoting
Dec 03 17:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile, back at the gox : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128993.0
Dec 03 17:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00050594 = 6.5772 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7508 @ 0.00050841 = 3.8171 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:51:00 <PsychoticBoy>	He is a scammer
Dec 03 17:51:17 <PsychoticBoy>	Come on OPEN your eyea
Dec 03 17:51:23 <PsychoticBoy>	eyes
Dec 03 17:51:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8558 @ 0.0005132 = 4.392 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:51:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1857 @ 0.00050524 = 0.9382 BTC [-]
Dec 03 17:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 03 17:52:03 <Ukto>	who tux
Dec 03 17:52:03 <PsychoticBoy>	Taking your money without asking questions and now he is giving shareholders a hard time wtf
Dec 03 17:52:03 <Ukto>	?
Dec 03 17:52:09 <PsychoticBoy>	gigavps
Dec 03 17:52:10 <Ukto>	oh
Dec 03 17:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you meant nefario
Dec 03 17:53:15 <PsychoticBoy>	I voted yes, theymos is investigating, hopefully soon the TAG will arive :D
Dec 03 17:53:19 <PsychoticBoy>	also
Dec 03 17:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt it, tbh.
Dec 03 17:53:42 <PsychoticBoy>	nef is the biggest oooh Pirateat40 is the biggest then nefario
Dec 03 17:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	i'd say it's more like pirate (~500k claims), hasking-kludge-harnett-etco (10k-100k range)
Dec 03 17:55:04 <mircea_popescu>	then peanuts people like the bitdaytrader dood, nefario, what have you
Dec 03 17:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	the original mybitcoin guy belongs either tied with pirate or in the 2nd echelon, depending how you count btc then
Dec 03 17:55:30 <PsychoticBoy>	I lost probably 2-3K btc on GLBSE
Dec 03 17:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	btc ?
Dec 03 17:55:49 <PsychoticBoy>	yeeeeeeep
Dec 03 17:56:00 <jurov>	probably?
Dec 03 17:56:01 <PsychoticBoy>	owned lots of assets
Dec 03 17:56:12 <kakobrekla>	not bad.
Dec 03 17:56:24 <PsychoticBoy>	2K Yabmc, 300 Gigaming and the puremining etc
Dec 03 17:56:40 <jurov>	are you sending info to that new zealand liquidator?
Dec 03 17:56:56 <jurov>	oh nvm, that's bitcoinica
Dec 03 17:57:00 <jurov>	sry
Dec 03 17:57:05 <dub>	whats a yabmc worth now though? 0.01?
Dec 03 17:57:15 <PsychoticBoy>	prob 0.05
Dec 03 17:57:29 <mircea_popescu>	PsychoticBoy im not so sure you can lump all the many defaults from ciuciu to who have you under nefario's name.
Dec 03 17:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	now, if you were to compare scammer groups, then for sure intersangro takes the cake.
Dec 03 17:57:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051719 = 2.2348 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:57:51 <PsychoticBoy>	I also owned 1K cuicui,.bond
Dec 03 17:57:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9946 @ 0.00051736 = 5.1457 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:57:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00052287 = 2.7974 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:57:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10735 @ 0.00052339 = 5.6186 BTC [+]
Dec 03 17:58:01 <PsychoticBoy>	100 btc
Dec 03 17:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	jesus god, we managed to get in a word edgewise past assbot.
Dec 03 17:58:18 <dub>	you gave money to that crack head
Dec 03 17:58:26 <PsychoticBoy>	but heey, dont invest what you can not afford to LOSE
Dec 03 17:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	dub he doesn't read trilema :D
Dec 03 17:58:40 <PsychoticBoy>	clearly
Dec 03 17:59:18 <PsychoticBoy>	lost more than 25K$ at current rate
Dec 03 18:05:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2464 @ 0.00050524 = 1.2449 BTC [-]
Dec 03 18:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28240 @ 0.00050519 = 14.2666 BTC [-]
Dec 03 18:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1260 @ 0.00051106 = 0.6439 BTC [+]
Dec 03 18:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 03 18:09:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.62000, Best ask: 12.62001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.62000, 24 hour volume: 26756.72915671, 24 hour low: 12.47550, 24 hour high: 12.67901, 24 hour vwap: 12.56329
Dec 03 18:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, not so bad.
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Dec 03 18:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	CoinPal allowed one to purchase Bitcoins with PayPal funds.  PayPal payments can be reversed easily but Bitcoin payments are permanent.  This asymmetry made CoinPal a constant target for PayPal fraud.  After I experienced my first wave of fraud, from which I learned many lessons, CoinPal lost less than 0.9% of revenue to fraud losses.
Dec 03 18:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	Fraudulent buyers exhibit certain characteristics that distinguish them from legitimate customers.
Dec 03 18:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	this is actually a pretty interesting read. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93770.0
Dec 03 18:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051071 = 2.2068 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 18:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5529 @ 0.00051098 = 2.8252 BTC [+]
Dec 03 18:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050857 = 2.1975 BTC [-]
Dec 03 18:27:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5328 @ 0.00050844 = 2.709 BTC [-]
Dec 03 18:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050847 = 2.1971 BTC [+]
Dec 03 18:28:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00050844 = 5.2115 BTC [-]
Dec 03 18:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00050725 = 1.1667 BTC [-]
Dec 03 18:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2021 @ 0.00050725 = 1.0252 BTC [-]
Dec 03 18:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14569 @ 0.00050706 = 7.3874 BTC [-]
Dec 03 18:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4510 @ 0.00050506 = 2.2778 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 18:47:50 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128692.msg1376070#msg1376070
Dec 03 18:47:56 <kakobrekla>	this is getting richer.
Dec 03 18:48:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31750 @ 0.00050506 = 16.0357 BTC [-]
Dec 03 18:58:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050769 = 2.1937 BTC [+]
Dec 03 18:58:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15002 @ 0.00050794 = 7.6201 BTC [+]
Dec 03 18:58:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1179 @ 0.00051106 = 0.6025 BTC [+]
Dec 03 18:58:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00051498 = 3.5791 BTC [+]
Dec 03 18:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17602 @ 0.00051756 = 9.1101 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 19:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	"It seems there is no help here,"
Dec 03 19:04:00 <mircea_popescu>	fucking asshole USA, created three hundred million useless fucks looking for "help"
Dec 03 19:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	eat shit and die already, what help ? just... keel over.
Dec 03 19:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1640 @ 0.00052029 = 0.8533 BTC [+]
Dec 03 19:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18290 @ 0.00050506 = 9.2375 BTC [-]
Dec 03 19:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 570 @ 0.00050456 = 0.2876 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 19:16:24 <Namjies>	Don't be mean to those in need who can but don't do anything.
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Dec 03 19:16:55 <Namjies>	We'll need them when space invaders arrive and demand human snacks.
Dec 03 19:24:06 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Dec 03 19:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	unrelatedly, these look pretty good http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135458062688.jpg
Dec 03 19:24:25 <Namjies>	argh
Dec 03 19:25:57 <Namjies>	Stop putting /dtng/ links in here.
Dec 03 19:28:55 <dub>	or your could ignore -regex dtng islt
Dec 03 19:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/adnotated-words-of-wisdom-on-the-topic-of-online-fraud/
Dec 03 19:32:44 <mircea_popescu>	better ?
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Dec 03 19:33:33 <dub>	who for a time ran a Paypal hm, best quote?
Dec 03 19:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	i have difficulty finishing sentences nowadays.
Dec 03 19:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	dub better nao ?
Dec 03 19:35:50 <dub>	diff?
Dec 03 19:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	 ran a Paypal hm, let’s just quote :
Dec 03 19:37:11 <Namjies>	ran a Paypal?
Dec 03 19:37:12 <dub>	I guess
Dec 03 19:37:43 <dub>	its still not clear
Dec 03 19:38:43 <dub>	who ran for a time, a paypal.. hmm, lets just quote
Dec 03 19:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	hm.
Dec 03 19:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00052073 = 8.9566 BTC [+]
Dec 03 19:39:26 <dub>	its an ugly segway any way you cut it
Dec 03 19:39:30 <dub>	:)
Dec 03 19:39:46 <mircea_popescu>	i added the suspensio npoints
Dec 03 19:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	yay for open source article editing
Dec 03 19:40:42 <dub>	heh s/segway/segue
Dec 03 19:41:03 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Dec 03 19:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	i wasn't even gonna say anything.
Dec 03 19:41:27 <dub>	its funny how stupid assumptions make it into your personal lexicon well mine quite ofter
Dec 03 19:41:31 <dub>	often*
Dec 03 19:41:52 <Graet>	maybe we should get together mircea_popescu - I'm having difficulty starting sentences
Dec 03 19:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	Graet hahaha we'll make what, a german philosopher ?
Dec 03 19:42:29 <dub>	I thought people were using segway as a transition vehicle in the sense of the silly two wheel ride on thing
Dec 03 19:42:33 <Graet>	LOL
Dec 03 19:44:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00052073 = 5.3114 BTC [+]
Dec 03 19:53:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051768 = 2.2369 BTC [-]
Dec 03 19:53:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16279 @ 0.00051801 = 8.4327 BTC [+]
Dec 03 19:58:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051777 = 2.2373 BTC [-]
Dec 03 19:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2913 @ 0.00051801 = 1.509 BTC [+]
Dec 03 20:01:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00052129 = 2.9192 BTC [+]
Dec 03 20:01:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 599 @ 0.00052138 = 0.3123 BTC [+]
Dec 03 20:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00051932 = 9.0362 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 20:27:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9966 @ 0.00051932 = 5.1755 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 20:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050535 = 2.1836 BTC [-]
Dec 03 20:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00050501 = 6.1359 BTC [-]
Dec 03 20:47:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10063 @ 0.00050456 = 5.0774 BTC [-]
Dec 03 20:47:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9404 @ 0.00050431 = 4.7425 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 20:53:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005169 = 2.2335 BTC [+]
Dec 03 20:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20173 @ 0.00051677 = 10.4248 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 21:02:49 <dub>	http://imgur.com/KmnyV.jpg
Dec 03 21:04:11 <smickles>	classy cake
Dec 03 21:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Dec 03 21:23:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051839 = 2.24 BTC [+]
Dec 03 21:23:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7034 @ 0.00051844 = 3.6467 BTC [+]
Dec 03 21:23:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11568 @ 0.00052138 = 6.0313 BTC [+]
Dec 03 21:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052113 = 2.2518 BTC [-]
Dec 03 21:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13112 @ 0.00052138 = 6.8363 BTC [+]
Dec 03 21:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00052147 = 5.1626 BTC [+]
Dec 03 21:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17 @ 0.00052339 = 0.0089 BTC [+]
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Dec 03 22:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051686 = 2.2334 BTC [-]
Dec 03 22:06:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2532 @ 0.00051677 = 1.3085 BTC [-]
Dec 03 22:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00050536 = 3.7902 BTC [-]
Dec 03 22:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6796 @ 0.00050431 = 3.4273 BTC [-]
Dec 03 22:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 593 @ 0.00050373 = 0.2987 BTC [-]
Dec 03 22:06:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3608 @ 0.00050368 = 1.8173 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 22:20:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 10000000 @ 0.00004016 = 401.57162915 BTC
Dec 03 22:21:10 <dub>	!ticker S.DICE
Dec 03 22:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00323801 / 0.00332259 / 0.00339997 (69900 shares, 232.25 BTC), 30day: 0.00180025 / 0.00331194 / 0.0034 (1003161 shares, 3,322.41 BTC)
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Dec 03 22:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051592 = 2.2293 BTC [+]
Dec 03 22:49:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6110 @ 0.00051576 = 3.1513 BTC [-]
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Dec 03 23:02:33 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Dec 03 23:02:36 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 210825 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 854 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3617413.84316241 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.19074174604
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Dec 03 23:32:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1701 @ 0.00339997 = 5.7833 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 00:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052132 = 2.2526 BTC [+]
Dec 04 00:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19429 @ 0.00052163 = 10.1347 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 00:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051578 = 2.2287 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 00:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12539 @ 0.00051576 = 6.4671 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 00:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00052145 = 1.9294 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 01:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051599 = 2.2296 BTC [-]
Dec 04 01:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12187 @ 0.00051576 = 6.2856 BTC [-]
Dec 04 01:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00051127 = 3.9879 BTC [-]
Dec 04 01:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00051127 = 12.8329 BTC [-]
Dec 04 01:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051939 = 2.2443 BTC [+]
Dec 04 01:42:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21778 @ 0.00051964 = 11.3167 BTC [+]
Dec 04 01:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051142 = 2.2098 BTC [-]
Dec 04 01:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00051127 = 0.8692 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 02:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7479 @ 0.00050636 = 3.7871 BTC [-]
Dec 04 02:26:47 <Namjies>	mircea_popescu, about your post and results for DigitalPoint
Dec 04 02:27:22 <mircea_popescu>	aha ?
Dec 04 02:27:54 <Namjies>	Implementing an affiliate program and getting good bitcoin services to have the ad on their website would be the only way to get good leads, probably.
Dec 04 02:28:18 <Namjies>	Or anything of the sort that gets an ad to MPEx where the good audience can see it.
Dec 04 02:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	in principle.
Dec 04 02:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	there is need of a good advertising system for bitcoin,
Dec 04 02:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	one that does not allow shit publishers in at all.
Dec 04 02:29:54 <Namjies>	The issue is if it's CPC/CPM, you have to trust the publisher and general audience of a website.
Dec 04 02:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	true.
Dec 04 02:30:16 <Namjies>	With CPA, the publisher has to trust the advertiser that he will credit all conversions.
Dec 04 02:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	cpa has numerous problems
Dec 04 02:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	chief among which that no serious publisher would entertain it.
Dec 04 02:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's stupid through and through.
Dec 04 02:35:50 <Namjies>	Actually many advertise with such methods.
Dec 04 02:36:02 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Dec 04 02:36:10 <Namjies>	But yes, it might not pay as much.
Dec 04 02:36:28 <Namjies>	Everyone would like to get a high CPM.
Dec 04 02:36:58 <Namjies>	But it's just not realistic to expect advertisers to hand out cash like that all the time to every publishers when there's no results.
Dec 04 02:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	it just doesn't make sense. the business of the publisher is publishing
Dec 04 02:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	conversion is the business of the advertiser.
Dec 04 02:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	you can't ask a car repair shop to "fix your car in such a way you can drive it"
Dec 04 02:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00051941 = 0.3226 BTC [+]
Dec 04 02:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6222 @ 0.00051964 = 3.2332 BTC [+]
Dec 04 02:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7721 @ 0.00052163 = 4.0275 BTC [+]
Dec 04 02:38:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1509 @ 0.00052339 = 0.7898 BTC [+]
Dec 04 02:43:15 <Namjies>	Ah, but the advertisers can't be sure of the quality of the publisher.
Dec 04 02:43:24 <Namjies>	They'd prefer to pay for results.
Dec 04 02:43:39 <pigeons>	http://karendecoster.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/guns1.jpg
Dec 04 02:43:58 <Namjies>	Publishers can figure out which advertisers pays the most by being better at conversion.
Dec 04 02:44:12 <Namjies>	But I don't see why advertisers wouldn't pay for results.
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Dec 04 03:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 55393 @ 0.00349995 = 193.8727 BTC [+]
Dec 04 03:28:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 28571 @ 0.00349995 = 99.9971 BTC [+]
Dec 04 03:29:11 <Namjies>	It's all going away!
Dec 04 03:31:33 <Namjies>	I'm not even sure how much is circulating, but not much.
Dec 04 03:31:48 <Namjies>	half of 1 million is issued on MPEx
Dec 04 03:32:37 <Namjies>	And a much small amount actually circulating
Dec 04 03:32:57 <Namjies>	rg, how much is circulating?
Dec 04 03:37:35 <Namjies>	Last I heard 175k I think but it might be more
Dec 04 03:38:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13486 @ 0.00052383 = 7.0644 BTC [+]
Dec 04 03:38:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8114 @ 0.00052392 = 4.2511 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 03:44:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6886 @ 0.00052392 = 3.6077 BTC [+]
Dec 04 03:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5414 @ 0.00052393 = 2.8366 BTC [+]
Dec 04 03:53:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15914 @ 0.00052393 = 8.3378 BTC [+]
Dec 04 03:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2386 @ 0.000524 = 1.2503 BTC [+]
Dec 04 03:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13340 @ 0.00052371 = 6.9863 BTC [-]
Dec 04 03:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1360 @ 0.00051987 = 0.707 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 04:17:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052388 = 2.2637 BTC [+]
Dec 04 04:17:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19729 @ 0.000524 = 10.338 BTC [+]
Dec 04 04:30:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005202 = 2.2478 BTC [-]
Dec 04 04:30:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8529 @ 0.00051987 = 4.434 BTC [-]
Dec 04 04:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13817 @ 0.00051987 = 7.183 BTC [-]
Dec 04 04:35:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11283 @ 0.00051914 = 5.8575 BTC [-]
Dec 04 04:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4443 @ 0.00051914 = 2.3065 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 04:48:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00339377 = 1.0181 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 05:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00051939 = 8.9854 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 05:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00051939 = 9.0374 BTC [+]
Dec 04 05:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.000524 = 2.227 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 05:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051922 = 2.2435 BTC [-]
Dec 04 05:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1774 @ 0.00051914 = 0.921 BTC [-]
Dec 04 05:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5905 @ 0.00051862 = 3.0625 BTC [-]
Dec 04 06:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052365 = 2.2627 BTC [+]
Dec 04 06:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052373 = 2.263 BTC [+]
Dec 04 06:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15017 @ 0.000524 = 7.8689 BTC [+]
Dec 04 06:02:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051886 = 2.242 BTC [-]
Dec 04 06:02:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1729 @ 0.00051873 = 0.8969 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 06:41:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052381 = 2.2634 BTC [+]
Dec 04 06:41:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 918 @ 0.000524 = 0.481 BTC [+]
Dec 04 06:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7361 @ 0.00052418 = 3.8585 BTC [+]
Dec 04 07:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052395 = 2.264 BTC [-]
Dec 04 07:07:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17529 @ 0.00052418 = 9.1884 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 07:22:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9710 @ 0.00052418 = 5.0898 BTC [+]
Dec 04 07:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4992 @ 0.00052431 = 2.6174 BTC [+]
Dec 04 07:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13248 @ 0.00052436 = 6.9467 BTC [+]
Dec 04 07:37:39 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px2Ssct-U1o&t=1m27s
Dec 04 07:37:55 <dub>	dopeness byond beliefness
Dec 04 07:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6967 @ 0.00339667 = 23.6646 BTC [+]
Dec 04 07:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00339377 = 0.8484 BTC [-]
Dec 04 07:43:20 <Diablo-D3>	dub: woah shit
Dec 04 07:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052032 = 2.2483 BTC [-]
Dec 04 07:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00052021 = 7.439 BTC [-]
Dec 04 07:45:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9166 @ 0.00051862 = 4.7537 BTC [-]
Dec 04 07:45:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4663 @ 0.00051588 = 2.4055 BTC [-]
Dec 04 07:48:33 <Diablo-D3>	dub: now that is mad skills
Dec 04 07:51:48 <Guest13968>	hmm
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Dec 04 07:52:00 <Guest13968>	whats that keyboard they have on the techincs
Dec 04 07:52:14 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 04 07:52:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.75000, Best ask: 12.78998, Bid-ask spread: 0.03998, Last trade: 12.78999, 24 hour volume: 33686.06210018, 24 hour low: 12.49010, 24 hour high: 12.79701, 24 hour vwap: 12.62702
Dec 04 07:52:15 <Guest13968>	never seen it before
Dec 04 07:52:19 *	Guest13968 is now known as kakobrekla
Dec 04 08:17:35 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu6ioKjZsGU&feature=endscreen
Dec 04 08:25:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052425 = 2.2653 BTC [+]
Dec 04 08:25:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1902 @ 0.00052436 = 0.9973 BTC [+]
Dec 04 08:25:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26527 @ 0.00052443 = 13.9116 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 09:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00052443 = 5.4016 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 09:24:12 <jurov>	someone could get inspired by projectwonderful, it's not CPC/CPM based but basically an auction
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Dec 04 10:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052088 = 2.2507 BTC [-]
Dec 04 10:40:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16979 @ 0.00052075 = 8.8418 BTC [-]
Dec 04 10:43:55 <Ukto>	btw
Dec 04 10:44:03 <Ukto>	how many rigs does gigamining have ?
Dec 04 10:44:56 <gigavps>	Ukto what do you mean by rigs? motherboards? mini rigs? GPUs?
Dec 04 10:45:17 <Ukto>	minirigs
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Dec 04 10:54:13 <abracadabra>	9000
Dec 04 10:56:01 <Ukto>	thanks giga
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Dec 04 11:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052093 = 2.2509 BTC [+]
Dec 04 11:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2421 @ 0.00052075 = 1.2607 BTC [-]
Dec 04 11:01:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00051714 = 7.3434 BTC [-]
Dec 04 11:01:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2808 @ 0.00051588 = 1.4486 BTC [-]
Dec 04 11:01:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8938 @ 0.00051309 = 4.586 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 11:08:46 <gigavps>	6
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Dec 04 11:38:08 <gigavps>	has mircea been around?
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Dec 04 11:51:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2592 @ 0.0005132 = 1.3302 BTC [+]
Dec 04 11:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8253 @ 0.00051309 = 4.2345 BTC [-]
Dec 04 11:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5305 @ 0.00051087 = 2.7102 BTC [-]
Dec 04 11:51:50 <jurov>	;;seen mircea
Dec 04 11:51:50 <gribble>	I have not seen mircea.
Dec 04 11:51:55 <jurov>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Dec 04 11:51:55 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 14 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> you can't ask a car repair shop to "fix your car in such a way you can drive it"
Dec 04 11:52:08 <gigavps>	lol
Dec 04 11:52:18 <gigavps>	good enough
Dec 04 11:52:46 <kakobrekla>	hm
Dec 04 11:52:59 <kakobrekla>	is there a major ddos in progress?
Dec 04 11:53:12 <Ukto>	where?
Dec 04 11:53:16 <kakobrekla>	deepbit down, cant connect to guilds pools, mtred down
Dec 04 11:53:41 <Ukto>	oz looks fine
Dec 04 11:54:40 <gigavps>	deepbit has been having problems for days
Dec 04 11:55:18 <kakobrekla>	ah?
Dec 04 11:55:23 <kakobrekla>	didnt know
Dec 04 11:57:17 <jcpham>	LOUD NOISES
Dec 04 11:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11610 @ 0.00051087 = 5.9312 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 12:01:33 <PsychoticBoy>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXhApw15HGU
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Dec 04 12:54:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00051377 = 7.013 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 13:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00051377 = 5.7028 BTC [+]
Dec 04 13:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4494 @ 0.00051087 = 2.2958 BTC [-]
Dec 04 13:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3856 @ 0.00051057 = 1.9688 BTC [-]
Dec 04 13:19:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14844 @ 0.00051057 = 7.5789 BTC [-]
Dec 04 13:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6153 @ 0.00051021 = 3.1393 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 13:29:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12584 @ 0.00051021 = 6.4205 BTC [-]
Dec 04 13:30:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11667 @ 0.00050933 = 5.9424 BTC [-]
Dec 04 13:33:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00050933 = 1.7317 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 14:18:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15683 @ 0.00050933 = 7.9878 BTC [-]
Dec 04 14:18:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10917 @ 0.00050909 = 5.5577 BTC [-]
Dec 04 14:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051314 = 2.2173 BTC [+]
Dec 04 14:26:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00051333 = 11.3446 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 15:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051423 = 2.222 BTC [+]
Dec 04 15:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18004 @ 0.00051454 = 9.2638 BTC [+]
Dec 04 15:28:46 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: btw https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg1377884#msg1377884
Dec 04 15:28:54 <Ukto>	in case you didnt see it
Dec 04 15:29:05 <kakobrekla>	yup
Dec 04 15:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	drama ?
Dec 04 15:29:16 <kakobrekla>	not much
Dec 04 15:29:23 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Dec 04 15:29:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.18899, Best ask: 13.18900, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.18900, 24 hour volume: 45398.29533466, 24 hour low: 12.52550, 24 hour high: 13.24000, 24 hour vwap: 12.84589
Dec 04 15:29:30 <kakobrekla>	rally.
Dec 04 15:29:58 <gigavps>	good afternoon mircea_popescu
Dec 04 15:30:20 <Ukto>	ya
Dec 04 15:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	heya giga
Dec 04 15:30:25 <Ukto>	its a good afternoon
Dec 04 15:30:27 <mircea_popescu>	o wow 13!
Dec 04 15:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	mwahaha.
Dec 04 15:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	i STILL have those futures bought at 10.66 on icbit
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Dec 04 15:30:50 <Ukto>	i figured once coin choke started to hit, it would go up
Dec 04 15:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	it'll be so fucking funny on the 12th. i guess btcjam for them ?
Dec 04 15:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	ukto tbh i was thinking it'd hit sooner (so did many people, to wit the november options slate)
Dec 04 15:31:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052435 = 2.2657 BTC [+]
Dec 04 15:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13301 @ 0.00052443 = 6.9754 BTC [+]
Dec 04 15:31:42 <Ukto>	everyone was holding thoguh, with teh same expectation
Dec 04 15:31:50 <Ukto>	since everyone held their breath
Dec 04 15:31:52 <Ukto>	nothing happened
Dec 04 15:32:01 <Ukto>	now ppl are starting to let go, but have less and less to let go
Dec 04 15:32:14 <Ukto>	whats up with btcjam ?
Dec 04 15:32:50 <pigeons>	btcjam = comedy gold
Dec 04 15:32:56 <Ukto>	lol
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Dec 04 15:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i was just saying, the icbit people will have to get the 2,3,500 btc they'll owe me somehow.
Dec 04 15:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	btcjam seems a natural choice.
Dec 04 15:40:51 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 04 15:41:05 <Ukto>	didnt think btcjam was making any real progress last i looked atit
Dec 04 15:41:32 <mircea_popescu>	depends how you define it. pigeons seems happy :p
Dec 04 15:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	unrelatedly, im curious who's the first person to sue/get sued in the rota thingee.
Dec 04 15:41:56 <Ukto>	pigeons is always happy :P
Dec 04 15:42:00 <Ukto>	unless pirate is around :P
Dec 04 15:42:02 <Ukto>	j/k
Dec 04 15:42:11 <Ukto>	rota?
Dec 04 15:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;google mpex rota
Dec 04 15:43:06 <gribble>	The MPEx Rota pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-mpex-rota/>; How does one list on MPEx ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/how-does-one-list-on-mpex/>; Why S.MPOE is worth more than MtGox pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/>
Dec 04 15:43:19 <mircea_popescu>	wow nice list. but anyway, 1st one
Dec 04 15:43:38 <Ukto>	ahhh
Dec 04 15:43:54 <Ukto>	actually
Dec 04 15:43:57 <Ukto>	now that I look at btcjam
Dec 04 15:44:01 <Ukto>	i think its more of what I was wanting to do
Dec 04 15:44:10 <Ukto>	there was a lending site I saw
Dec 04 15:44:24 <Ukto>	that let ppl invest in ppl for loans etc like that
Dec 04 15:44:33 <Ukto>	however, you got shares
Dec 04 15:44:38 <Ukto>	for every $25 you put in
Dec 04 15:44:44 <Ukto>	and could then trade the shares if you wanted
Dec 04 15:45:35 <EskimoBob>	rota?
Dec 04 15:45:57 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob see above neh ?
Dec 04 15:46:07 <EskimoBob>	wtf is "rota" ?
Dec 04 15:46:07 <mircea_popescu>	but i'm curious now, does anyone even get the rota reference ?
Dec 04 15:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	lolk.
Dec 04 15:46:28 <EskimoBob>	what is the meaning of this word?
Dec 04 15:47:01 <EskimoBob>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rota LOL!
Dec 04 15:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	it's a reference to the oldest court system still in functional use to this day
Dec 04 15:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	closing in on a thousand years by now.
Dec 04 15:48:37 <EskimoBob>	"The Wheel of Fortune"?
Dec 04 15:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	"Tribunal Apostolicum Rotae Romanae"
Dec 04 15:48:59 <mircea_popescu>	look that up.
Dec 04 15:49:15 <EskimoBob>	military police force in São Paulo ?
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Dec 04 15:50:24 <EskimoBob>	I am not going to even comment on that bull shit. You ar
Dec 04 15:51:22 <dub>	http://marthamitchelleffect.org/#/assange-case-aa-cuba/4571327129
Dec 04 15:51:37 <dub>	that anna arden is certainly very rapable
Dec 04 15:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	i've never been called an ar before ?!
Dec 04 15:52:40 <mircea_popescu>	dub she strikes me as a sort of michael moore
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Dec 04 15:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	anonymous loser trying to cling to what she imagines is "famous people" to "become famous" herself.
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Dec 04 15:55:09 <pigeons>	she should just "leak" a sex tape
Dec 04 16:11:08 <Namjies>	Someone should probably buy that 16k S.BVPS shares I couldn't afford.
Dec 04 16:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol are you cornerning the market ?
Dec 04 16:12:06 <FabianB>	so mircea_popescu ia the pope of bitcoin
Dec 04 16:12:13 <Namjies>	I think there's around 200k circulating and I own 130k already.
Dec 04 16:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	iirc the issue was 300k ? 350k ? something like that
Dec 04 16:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB hence POPEscu
Dec 04 16:12:46 <FabianB>	heh
Dec 04 16:12:47 <Namjies>	500k
Dec 04 16:12:57 <Namjies>	1/2 of the 1 million total shares
Dec 04 16:13:08 <Namjies>	RG sold ~175-250k maybe.
Dec 04 16:13:16 <Namjies>	Not sure of the exact amount.
Dec 04 16:14:24 <mircea_popescu>	 to offer in this IPO a total of 150`000 (one hundred thousand) shares, as follows : one block of 30`000 (thirty thousand) shares at a price of 0.0022 BTC each ; one block of 75`000 (seventy-five thousand) shares at a price of 0.0024 BTC each ; one block of 45`000 (fourty-five thousand) shares at a price of 0.0026 BTC each.
Dec 04 16:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	a right you are. was 150k originally + whatever he sold after that if anything
Dec 04 16:16:26 <Namjies>	Aye
Dec 04 16:16:47 <Namjies>	He might be the one who bought shares and sold back at 0.00349
Dec 04 16:16:58 <Namjies>	From which there's 16k left.
Dec 04 16:17:19 <Namjies>	He said he was buying shares around 0.003 and putting them back for sale.
Dec 04 16:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	where ? he's been awful quiet of late.
Dec 04 16:18:17 <Namjies>	Ah, many weeks ago.
Dec 04 16:18:22 <Namjies>	Maybe 1-2 months ago
Dec 04 16:18:47 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Dec 04 16:19:16 <Namjies>	S.BVPS is a good stock anyway.
Dec 04 16:19:29 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.bvps
Dec 04 16:19:31 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.00349995 / 0.00349995 / 0.00349995 (83964 shares, 293.87 BTC), 30day: 0.002 / 0.00303219 / 0.00349995 (182572 shares, 553.59 BTC)
Dec 04 16:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 50/0.00349995
Dec 04 16:19:49 <gribble>	14285.9183703
Dec 04 16:19:50 <Namjies>	If I had been quicker, could have paid them 0.003 instead of 0.0035
Dec 04 16:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	makes what, 1.4% a month ? pretty sweet.
Dec 04 16:21:10 <Namjies>	50 BTC / 500 000 issued on mpex = 0.0001BTC per share or 1/35
Dec 04 16:21:22 <Namjies>	2.8%
Dec 04 16:21:52 <Namjies>	The div is paid on 500k shares only.
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Dec 04 16:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	o right you are.
Dec 04 16:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	so wait, this is like, 35% a year ? heh.
Dec 04 16:22:58 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin still has crazy rates.
Dec 04 16:23:03 <Namjies>	That's assuming no growth of profit.
Dec 04 16:24:03 <pigeons>	down to 1 partner not awol, and just barely
Dec 04 16:24:36 <Namjies>	?
Dec 04 16:24:59 <pigeons>	grubles is mia, rg has a job
Dec 04 16:25:28 <Namjies>	Yes, he has.
Dec 04 16:25:37 <Namjies>	But he's still around.
Dec 04 16:25:51 <Namjies>	I talked to him the other day.
Dec 04 16:26:03 <Namjies>	He's just not as active as usual.
Dec 04 16:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	i was talking to grubles maybe i dunno, a month ago ?
Dec 04 16:28:19 <Namjies>	He's moving with a new provider and getting a new design rolled out too for the website.
Dec 04 16:29:22 <Namjies>	Should get him 24/7 support for his customers and automatic provision of VPSes instead of manual.
Dec 04 16:30:12 <Namjies>	Otherwise, as far as I know, customer amounts stay stable, not really moving much.
Dec 04 16:30:21 <Namjies>	A bit sad but eh.
Dec 04 16:31:22 <Namjies>	Haven't seen grubles talking at all lately.
Dec 04 16:32:22 <Namjies>	[16:30] <gribble> grubles was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 5 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 22 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <grubles> gribble, stop hitting yourself
Dec 04 16:32:22 <Namjies>	[16:31] <gribble> grubles was last seen in #bitcoin-hosting 27 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, 48 minutes, and 45
Dec 04 16:33:47 <Namjies>	eh, looks like he want on vacation somewhere in the savannah or something and got lost or eaten.
Dec 04 16:33:52 <Namjies>	he went*
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Dec 04 16:38:39 <Ukto>	thats good news.. [15:39] <amphipod> Dec04 21:37:11 mtgox     x31   410.2572 @    13.36583058 USD
Dec 04 16:38:54 <Namjies>	?
Dec 04 16:39:03 <Ukto>	price went up more past 13.20
Dec 04 16:39:22 <Ukto>	curious how high the rally will get today
Dec 04 16:41:50 <Namjies>	13.38!
Dec 04 16:42:15 <Namjies>	Damn... maybe I should have sold options instead of buying S.BVPS
Dec 04 16:42:19 <Namjies>	Puts
Dec 04 16:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00051548 = 7.0363 BTC [-]
Dec 04 16:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/so-do-i-hate-the-state-or-what/
Dec 04 16:46:31 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone's in a reading mood.
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Dec 04 17:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2490 @ 0.00051475 = 1.2817 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 17:23:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00327747 = 6.3911 BTC [-]
Dec 04 17:23:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4900 @ 0.00327078 = 16.0268 BTC [-]
Dec 04 17:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00323801 = 0.1619 BTC [-]
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Dec 04 17:26:01 <Bugpowder>	Namjies, how much S.BVPS did u buy?
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Dec 04 17:27:32 <Bugpowder>	I sold you the S.BVPS.  Nice profit on that trade.
Dec 04 17:27:54 <Bugpowder>	Was worried I cornered the market, thought the float was only 150K.
Dec 04 17:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	o hi Buglouse
Dec 04 17:28:14 <mircea_popescu>	oops. Bugpowder
Dec 04 17:28:41 <Bugpowder>	dive dive dive
Dec 04 17:28:46 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 04 17:28:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30041, Best ask: 13.30939, Bid-ask spread: 0.00898, Last trade: 13.30939, 24 hour volume: 60464.88859745, 24 hour low: 12.55000, 24 hour high: 13.50000, 24 hour vwap: 12.98665
Dec 04 17:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	eh seems not.
Dec 04 17:29:14 <mircea_popescu>	had this happened a week ago i'd be out
Dec 04 17:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 42000*4/13.3 - 42000*3/12.3
Dec 04 17:30:38 <gribble>	2387.67650834
Dec 04 17:30:44 <mircea_popescu>	2.5k btc as a rough estimate.
Dec 04 17:32:04 <Bugpowder>	bond holders cough
Dec 04 17:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	well ya
Dec 04 17:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	but still.
Dec 04 17:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	a no. last month i covered on my own money, like 25k of the 41k capital
Dec 04 17:32:54 <Bugpowder>	yeah  I noticed that change from "lender of last resort"
Dec 04 17:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	what you mean change ?
Dec 04 17:33:43 <Bugpowder>	As I recall a few months ago, you contribution was listed differently in the MPOE bondholders results.
Dec 04 17:34:02 <Bugpowder>	something like 6. mircea_popescu lender of last resort
Dec 04 17:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	iirc it's always been the same
Dec 04 17:34:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1831 @ 0.00051475 = 0.9425 BTC [-]
Dec 04 17:34:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1725 @ 0.00051474 = 0.8879 BTC [-]
Dec 04 17:34:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6879 @ 0.00051362 = 3.5332 BTC [-]
Dec 04 17:34:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12915 @ 0.00051094 = 6.5988 BTC [-]
Dec 04 17:34:44 <Bugpowder>	mokay
Dec 04 17:35:14 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if we see 15 for xmas
Dec 04 17:35:43 <Bugpowder>	It is the perfect christmas gift
Dec 04 17:35:45 <pigeons>	bruce wagner says 50
Dec 04 17:36:01 <Bugpowder>	I think we see 15...  Not sure if we will HOLD it though.
Dec 04 17:36:23 <Bugpowder>	Although I think we are finally running out of things that can blow up to create panic sales.
Dec 04 17:36:41 <Bugpowder>	Unless..... MPEx!
Dec 04 17:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Dec 04 17:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	mpex doth not blow up this year.
Dec 04 17:37:39 <mircea_popescu>	as long as mtgox holds o fuck
Dec 04 17:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	bfl ;/
Dec 04 17:37:46 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Dec 04 17:37:49 <Bugpowder>	mtgox
Dec 04 17:37:58 <Bugpowder>	bfl, who cares.
Dec 04 17:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	you kidding ? they have something like 1mn in "preorders"
Dec 04 17:38:38 <Bugpowder>	how is that money going to recycle back into the economy?
Dec 04 17:38:40 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Dec 04 17:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	i tell you, if some of the larger players get burned on bfl they might just go out.
Dec 04 17:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	that's a bunch of coin
Dec 04 17:39:11 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Dec 04 17:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps had what, 4 rigs or something ?
Dec 04 17:39:53 <Bugpowder>	that's already a messed up situation
Dec 04 17:40:00 <mircea_popescu>	if he's out the 5-10k btc there on top of the recent glbse crapfest + whatever lawyer cost etc
Dec 04 17:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	he might just say fuck it
Dec 04 17:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	one example picked out of what, a dozen or two people.
Dec 04 17:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons is bruce still around ?!
Dec 04 17:41:48 <Bugpowder>	do you think the deepbit problem is why the hash rate is down?
Dec 04 17:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	im possibly the cluelest veteran when it comes to mining.
Dec 04 17:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	i think even gmaxwell may be more knowledgeable.
Dec 04 17:44:45 <pigeons>	bruce's site: http://buybitcoin.com/home/faq/#16
Dec 04 17:45:53 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106027.0;all
Dec 04 17:46:01 <pigeons>	http://i46.tinypic.com/2iuqfrd.jpg
Dec 04 17:46:04 <pigeons>	done.
Dec 04 17:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	oty
Dec 04 17:47:06 <Namjies>	I bought 80k+ recently
Dec 04 17:50:47 <Namjies>	Bringing my total to 136k
Dec 04 17:52:20 <pigeons>	note to phishers ^^^
Dec 04 17:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol how's they gonna phish ?
Dec 04 17:55:02 <Bugpowder>	Namjies, how much would you have spent for the stock?
Dec 04 17:55:14 <Bugpowder>	just curious
Dec 04 17:55:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol seller's remorse
Dec 04 17:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons "If you make a payment to us by an unauthorized method, your best recourse would be to contact the financial institution or the payment provider company you used, and request that they reverse the transaction."
Dec 04 17:56:27 <Bugpowder>	20% profit, no remorse here.
Dec 04 17:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's the first time i've seen a merchant begging for this.
Dec 04 17:56:56 <pigeons>	well he's unique
Dec 04 17:57:06 <Bugpowder>	sellers remorse is the 1.3M of S.MPOE @ 38000
Dec 04 17:57:08 <Namjies>	Bugpowder, would have skipped if higher.
Dec 04 17:57:16 <Namjies>	I was late to buy around 0.003
Dec 04 17:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha you did that did you ?
Dec 04 17:57:28 <Bugpowder>	yessss
Dec 04 17:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Dec 04 17:57:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00050368 / 0.00051623 / 0.00052443 (1249621 shares, 645.09 BTC), 30day: 0.00047 / 0.00050943 / 0.00053881 (97679619 shares, 49,761.45 BTC)
Dec 04 17:57:30 <Bugpowder>	I fucked up
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Dec 04 17:57:39 <Bugpowder>	I am just getting over the depression
Dec 04 17:57:48 <Bugpowder>	It would have made up for all the fucked up F.GIGA losses
Dec 04 17:57:53 <Namjies>	so ended up having to cough up the BTC at 0.0035
Dec 04 17:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (0.00051623 - 0.00038000) * 13000000
Dec 04 17:58:00 <gribble>	1770.99
Dec 04 17:58:03 <Bugpowder>	the cost of exiting MPCD.B and C
Dec 04 17:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	eh, what's a coupla k btcs
Dec 04 17:58:07 <Namjies>	Otherwise I'd have created puts and sold those puts.
Dec 04 17:58:07 <Bugpowder>	prior to implosion
Dec 04 17:58:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051096 = 2.2079 BTC [+]
Dec 04 17:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6825 @ 0.00051094 = 3.4872 BTC [-]
Dec 04 17:58:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10554 @ 0.00050909 = 5.3729 BTC [-]
Dec 04 17:58:17 <Namjies>	Which can be very profitable right now.
Dec 04 18:00:04 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies the 5k pair is up like 5 cents per.
Dec 04 18:00:19 <pigeons>	hey now http://buybitcoin.com/home/price/
Dec 04 18:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	17.86 ?! wtf is this ?
Dec 04 18:01:09 <mircea_popescu>	You can simply take the number of Bitcoins you need… and multiply it by this number, to see how many dollars you need.
Dec 04 18:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	this guy... is he on some sort of meds ?
Dec 04 18:01:57 <pigeons>	A Reputation you can Trust: The founder of BuyBitcoin.com, Bruce Wagner, is the most famous person in the Bitcoin world, and is considered to be an expert on Bitcoin, and the Bitcoin Economy.
Dec 04 18:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	oic.
Dec 04 18:02:55 <Namjies>	Scoundrel "Bitconman" McFuckerscammer's Fine Digital Coins Shop, LLC.
Dec 04 18:03:00 <Namjies>	Is what it is.
Dec 04 18:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 04 18:03:22 <mircea_popescu>	he could just call it mybitcoin.com and be done with it
Dec 04 18:03:30 <pigeons>	well you can't say you didn't know where he wanted to fuck you
Dec 04 18:03:52 <Bugpowder>	Well... its cheaper than the physicals at memorydealers.com
Dec 04 18:04:17 <Bugpowder>	http://memorydealers.com/hardware/bitcoin-equipment.html
Dec 04 18:04:26 <pigeons>	“I’m very pleased with my bitcoin purchase, everything was smooth. Amazing that you even process bank deposits on Saturdays and Sundays too!”
Dec 04 18:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	ugh.
Dec 04 18:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder well ya but custom rounds are always expensive.
Dec 04 18:05:43 <pigeons>	What are your daily transaction limits? I would be interested in large USD deposits to your bank account.”
Dec 04 18:05:46 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't make sense to run one for less than a few million pieces, so.
Dec 04 18:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons in other news, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135466230861.jpg
Dec 04 18:06:14 <Bugpowder>	naw dude
Dec 04 18:06:28 <Bugpowder>	casacius sells them direct for like 1BTC over face.
Dec 04 18:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	25 Casascius Bitcoins SEE DETAILS $221.11
Dec 04 18:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	221.11 / 25
Dec 04 18:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 221.11 / 25
Dec 04 18:07:29 <gribble>	8.8444
Dec 04 18:07:31 <Namjies>	I just wonder if BitVPS will really improve in term of customers now after the changes.
Dec 04 18:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	seems a pretty good deal, that
Dec 04 18:08:00 <pigeons>	Namjies: he's gotta migrate everyone to openvz, doesn't sound fun
Dec 04 18:08:03 <Bugpowder>	obviously not updated in a long time
Dec 04 18:08:12 <Namjies>	He's switching to Xen
Dec 04 18:08:25 <Bugpowder>	Actually... the 10BTC silver one is not horrible either.
Dec 04 18:08:28 <Namjies>	And not migrating everyone.
Dec 04 18:08:39 <Bugpowder>	It used to be 2x BTC price...
Dec 04 18:08:43 <Namjies>	Old boxes on international servers will be kept.
Dec 04 18:08:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i like the Shop by Price $0.00 - $1,000.00 (5) $1,000.00 - $2,000.00 (1) part best.
Dec 04 18:09:05 <Namjies>	The new, automatically provisioned VPSes will be on Xen with a specific provider tho.
Dec 04 18:09:06 <pigeons>	ok but domestic kvm folks will probably leave
Dec 04 18:09:11 <iz>	Bugpowder: is your name a bomb the bass reference?
Dec 04 18:09:40 <Bugpowder>	yeah, that and naked lunch
Dec 04 18:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	did rg eventually make a blog anywhere ?
Dec 04 18:09:44 <Bugpowder>	gtg
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Dec 04 18:09:47 <iz>	oh yeah
Dec 04 18:10:09 <Namjies>	hmm, I don't know
Dec 04 18:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	people w/o blogs really have no idea how useful one is.
Dec 04 18:11:23 <pigeons>	get off my lawn
Dec 04 18:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 04 18:12:23 <Namjies>	In your case, useful to hear yourself speak?
Dec 04 18:12:55 <Namjies>	Doesn't look like people are reading your blog much. No comments. We only get to read something when you link us to it.
Dec 04 18:13:15 <Namjies>	I have a feeling it lacks audience.
Dec 04 18:13:23 <Namjies>	I had one once and scrapped it.
Dec 04 18:13:41 <mircea_popescu>	so many false implications in there tho...
Dec 04 18:14:30 <Namjies>	Possibly eh
Dec 04 18:14:53 <Namjies>	I don't see visitors stats
Dec 04 18:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	for one, how many times do people comment on your clothes ? and is this an argument in favour of going around naked ?
Dec 04 18:15:12 <Namjies>	I wouldn't mind going around naked.
Dec 04 18:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	for another, people make a lot of comments on btctalk.
Dec 04 18:15:50 <Namjies>	Not always good, but blog usually do get a few comments ever 100-200 readers.
Dec 04 18:15:56 <mircea_popescu>	suppose you could have a btctalk that consisted of only the 0.1% of comments worth reading from the 1% of people you actually think anything of.
Dec 04 18:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	now he's made me look
Dec 04 18:17:02 <Namjies>	Something like 10% of the population should just go one day to work naked and keep it like that. Instant impossibility to apply nudity ban.
Dec 04 18:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	330 past month. would that mean what, 10k readers ?
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Dec 04 18:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i do have a nudity-for-slaves rule in place, but it's one thing to have nubile young women naked around the house
Dec 04 18:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	and quite another to have the general population in say the bus
Dec 04 18:18:13 <Namjies>	I'm just saying, if the population wanted, repealing laws would be easy.
Dec 04 18:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	prolly a good idea to pick more sensible laws to repeal.
Dec 04 18:18:53 <mircea_popescu>	fwiw nudity isn't even illegal, just mostly impractical.
Dec 04 18:19:10 <Namjies>	It's technically going to get you arrested.
Dec 04 18:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it depends where.
Dec 04 18:19:23 <Namjies>	It's not legal to go around public places naked.
Dec 04 18:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	never happened to me.
Dec 04 18:19:32 <Namjies>	Not in Canada/US
Dec 04 18:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	a well. i'm talking of the civilised world.
Dec 04 18:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise sure, in iran it may get you stoned.
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Dec 04 18:20:10 <Namjies>	I guess Canada/US is not part of the civilized world.
Dec 04 18:20:52 <mircea_popescu>	well... it aspires to be. maybe one day.
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Dec 04 18:22:35 <Namjies>	It's usually acknowledged the human body is not in itself indecent.
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Dec 04 18:23:15 <Namjies>	If we ban public nudity based on the fact it can bother some to see it, we might as well ban breathing because some could be bothered by seeing it.
Dec 04 18:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	in the us you mean ?
Dec 04 18:23:33 <Namjies>	Or anything else someone might not want to see.
Dec 04 18:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	again, nudity is not banned afaik. causing a disturbance is, which i can see the point.
Dec 04 18:24:00 <Namjies>	Well someone seeing something not directed at them is not disturbance.
Dec 04 18:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	ya ya, but if people start crowding and blocking the road and stampeding each other this'd be a problem.
Dec 04 18:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	it has to be adressed somehow.
Dec 04 18:24:41 <Namjies>	That yes.
Dec 04 18:25:02 <Namjies>	But even not doing anything particuliar.
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Dec 04 18:25:33 <Namjies>	Try just walking on the sidewalk naked. You'll get arrested.
Dec 04 18:25:45 <Namjies>	Someone will complain and police will show up.
Dec 04 18:25:49 <abracadabra>	no in san francisco
Dec 04 18:25:50 <mircea_popescu>	people are funny anyway. last time i took the girls out for a shoot last winter there were some people happening to walk their dogs now and again.
Dec 04 18:25:50 <abracadabra>	not*
Dec 04 18:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	the dogs on seeing nude women were moderately interested, as in, hallo ?
Dec 04 18:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	the owners however were trying very hard NOT TO LOOK
Dec 04 18:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	had a laugh at the dichotomy there.
Dec 04 18:26:50 <Namjies>	Nice. Although I'm not surprised for San Francisco.
Dec 04 18:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	im in timisoara.
Dec 04 18:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	but in any case, people tend to confuse things. police gets called cause "omg naked person", they have to show up (cause they were called, it's how it works)
Dec 04 18:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	the officer then talks to the person in question. if the guy gets all beligerent yea he's getting arrested. was he arrested for being naked ? well... not really.
Dec 04 18:31:47 <Namjies>	Hmm, I wonder about that.
Dec 04 18:32:11 <Namjies>	Maybe in Romania, but in the US/Canada?
Dec 04 18:33:12 <mircea_popescu>	well, you keep insisting on discussing places which have no rule of law.
Dec 04 18:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	in the us/canada whatever the cop feels like will happen.
Dec 04 18:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	the person gets raped, maybe, the person gets arrested for conspiracy, maybe,
Dec 04 18:33:31 <mircea_popescu>	fuckall knows.
Dec 04 18:33:33 <Namjies>	Probably.
Dec 04 18:34:26 <mircea_popescu>	wait a second!
Dec 04 18:34:53 <mircea_popescu>	Dec 04 02:25:56 <Namjies>	Stop putting /dtng/ links in here.
Dec 04 18:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	had a change of heart ?!
Dec 04 18:36:01 <Namjies>	No. I just tend to click all links before checking them and I'm not particularly interested in seeing intercourse.
Dec 04 18:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	but on the other hand...
Dec 04 18:37:15 <Namjies>	ah, I suppose.
Dec 04 18:37:53 <Namjies>	If we allow public nudity...
Dec 04 18:39:06 <Namjies>	Same goes for everything else as long as it's not directly aimed at someone.
Dec 04 18:42:16 <Namjies>	Although I suppose it's more the lack of warning that bothers me. I stay around for bitcoin * asset news and you always present the links as "In other news/This is interesting/etc."
Dec 04 18:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	"and now for something competely different"
Dec 04 18:43:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928710
Dec 04 18:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	isnt this a little lulzy ?
Dec 04 18:45:23 <Namjies>	that there's a database error?
Dec 04 18:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050942 = 2.2012 BTC [+]
Dec 04 18:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8677 @ 0.00050909 = 4.4174 BTC [-]
Dec 04 18:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1402 @ 0.00050631 = 0.7098 BTC [-]
Dec 04 18:47:13 <dub>	is the latest flash completely fucking broken
Dec 04 18:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	ubuntuforums be down
Dec 04 18:47:21 <mircea_popescu>	dub traditionally yes.
Dec 04 18:47:34 <dub>	moreso than usual
Dec 04 18:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	also traditionally yes.
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Dec 04 18:55:08 <mircea_popescu>	bah ubuntu fucked up grep
Dec 04 18:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	-Ucp8 means jack shit now.
Dec 04 18:59:19 <dub>	thats what you get with riceOS
Dec 04 18:59:59 *	dub ignores thats its downstream of the one true linux
Dec 04 19:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 04 19:03:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00050631 = 2.7594 BTC [-]
Dec 04 19:03:58 <dub>	never help people
Dec 04 19:04:41 <dub>	I build one little house for these habitat for humanity fucks and they hound me till I die
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Dec 04 19:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	yep.
Dec 04 19:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	charities are worse than the mob.
Dec 04 19:18:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051542 = 2.2271 BTC [+]
Dec 04 19:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00051548 = 3.3764 BTC [+]
Dec 04 19:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00051941 = 8.9339 BTC [+]
Dec 04 19:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9259 @ 0.00052443 = 4.8557 BTC [+]
Dec 04 19:22:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051463 = 2.2237 BTC [-]
Dec 04 19:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21845 @ 0.00051433 = 11.2355 BTC [-]
Dec 04 19:38:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051604 = 2.2298 BTC [+]
Dec 04 19:38:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00051607 = 0.8515 BTC [+]
Dec 04 19:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052232 = 2.2569 BTC [+]
Dec 04 19:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19618 @ 0.00052237 = 10.2479 BTC [+]
Dec 04 19:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 672 @ 0.00052443 = 0.3524 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 20:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051789 = 2.2378 BTC [-]
Dec 04 20:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13729 @ 0.00051774 = 7.1081 BTC [-]
Dec 04 20:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00051547 = 0.1804 BTC [-]
Dec 04 20:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051553 = 2.2276 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14230 @ 0.00051547 = 7.3351 BTC [-]
Dec 04 20:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052302 = 2.26 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:04:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10780 @ 0.00052332 = 5.6414 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051572 = 2.2284 BTC [-]
Dec 04 20:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6779 @ 0.00051547 = 3.4944 BTC [-]
Dec 04 20:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052308 = 2.2602 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13153 @ 0.00052332 = 6.8832 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052298 = 2.2598 BTC [-]
Dec 04 20:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5217 @ 0.00052332 = 2.7302 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7162 @ 0.00052443 = 3.756 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:25:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052441 = 2.266 BTC [-]
Dec 04 20:25:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3179 @ 0.00052443 = 1.6672 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00052446 = 3.6712 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:25:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.00052446 = 2.7046 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00052446 = 3.0943 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19643 @ 0.00052446 = 10.302 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5707 @ 0.00052459 = 2.9938 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3942 @ 0.00052459 = 2.0679 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17358 @ 0.00052461 = 9.1062 BTC [+]
Dec 04 20:47:27 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: here's your boy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DVOYyx_6U
Dec 04 20:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	what, still ?!
Dec 04 20:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	it boggles how inept someone must be to try and leech bitcoin creed off genjix.
Dec 04 20:56:06 <Diablo-D3>	wait, what?
Dec 04 20:57:20 <pigeons>	nothing, i just knew linking to a genjox video for rile mircea_popescu up
Dec 04 20:57:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmpluH6-ScM
Dec 04 20:58:20 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: who is the guy speaking in the first video?
Dec 04 20:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	taaki aka genjix
Dec 04 20:58:47 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Dec 04 20:58:50 <Diablo-D3>	so thats the face of the man
Dec 04 20:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno who were the other schmucks around there, but i guess yet another service going nowhere on half a mil of angel capital.
Dec 04 21:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11542 @ 0.00052461 = 6.055 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8939 @ 0.00052465 = 4.6898 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7183 @ 0.00052467 = 3.7687 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:00:21 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I dunno, is it wrong Im bitter?
Dec 04 21:00:37 <mircea_popescu>	a nm, found it http://www.miicard.com/
Dec 04 21:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	"The only way to prove you are who you say you are purely online"
Dec 04 21:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like, you know, retarded pgp implementation that fails to work i bet.
Dec 04 21:01:12 <Diablo-D3>	yeah I find it funny
Dec 04 21:01:21 <Diablo-D3>	why do people keep implementing things again and again
Dec 04 21:01:30 <Diablo-D3>	like, just to say reinventing the wheel doesnt cover it
Dec 04 21:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	because there's some idiots who think they too can be "investors" in "technology"
Dec 04 21:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	even if they don't understand either capital or engineering.
Dec 04 21:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like the bitcointalk forum, lending section.
Dec 04 21:02:25 <Diablo-D3>	I dont even mean the investment
Dec 04 21:02:29 <Diablo-D3>	I meant the actually doing it
Dec 04 21:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	these idiots keep pushing money out, and by now a sort of circus/sideshow act has developed
Dec 04 21:02:53 <mircea_popescu>	sort of like the 419 nigerians, except these are usually poor inner city youths (with or without an acne problem)
Dec 04 21:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	and they do... what you see in that youtube. cockgrabbing basically.
Dec 04 21:03:33 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: maybe Im in the wrong business
Dec 04 21:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	why ? if you wanted to be in showbiz your best bet would be growing tits and working vegas anyway
Dec 04 21:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052385 = 2.2636 BTC [-]
Dec 04 21:03:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13079 @ 0.0005237 = 6.8495 BTC [-]
Dec 04 21:04:00 <Diablo-D3>	I should just be serial startupping
Dec 04 21:04:00 <mircea_popescu>	rather than dumbass conference venues.
Dec 04 21:04:07 <Diablo-D3>	like, marking insane ideas
Dec 04 21:04:10 <Diablo-D3>	and raising money
Dec 04 21:04:13 <pigeons>	heh he demonstrates silk road in his presentation
Dec 04 21:04:13 <Diablo-D3>	and then failing to deliver
Dec 04 21:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	dude, you'll make 18k a year and work 90 hour weeks.
Dec 04 21:04:25 <pigeons>	as his first application of bitcoin
Dec 04 21:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	(as a best case scenario)
Dec 04 21:04:44 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no no no
Dec 04 21:04:47 <Diablo-D3>	I said fail to deliver
Dec 04 21:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	they all fail to deliver, this is no innovation.
Dec 04 21:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	actually delivering something would prolly have everyone fall over.
Dec 04 21:05:33 <Diablo-D3>	well like
Dec 04 21:05:36 <Diablo-D3>	look at my language seaking
Dec 04 21:05:50 <Diablo-D3>	its a C-like language that is very erlangy in thought process
Dec 04 21:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	a language isn't douchy enough.
Dec 04 21:06:11 <Diablo-D3>	no but like
Dec 04 21:06:16 <mircea_popescu>	you need to invent the fuycard.
Dec 04 21:06:19 <Diablo-D3>	I already know up front Im reinventing lisp at some point
Dec 04 21:07:08 <pigeons>	then takes a phonecall during his presentation
Dec 04 21:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	actually i'm publishing this. too much truth content to let it slide.
Dec 04 21:07:18 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: it was fucking up the microphone
Dec 04 21:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00052444 = 1.3635 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:07:52 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I dunno, I just want to do something that actually improves computing for people
Dec 04 21:07:56 <Diablo-D3>	to make it vastly less shitty
Dec 04 21:08:00 <Diablo-D3>	and then retire as a multi-billionare.
Dec 04 21:08:11 <Diablo-D3>	I have no interest in dumb shit
Dec 04 21:08:12 <mircea_popescu>	people do not deserve any improvement. let them wallow.
Dec 04 21:08:25 <Diablo-D3>	dude fuck them
Dec 04 21:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	if you're doing something do something you need yourself.
Dec 04 21:08:31 <Diablo-D3>	Im sick of computers
Dec 04 21:08:34 <Diablo-D3>	they _suck_
Dec 04 21:09:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1721 @ 0.00052444 = 0.9026 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20060 @ 0.00052467 = 10.5249 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1135 @ 0.00052472 = 0.5956 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:10:15 <Diablo-D3>	ha ha
Dec 04 21:10:19 <Diablo-D3>	he cant explain how the math works
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Dec 04 21:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00052472 = 2.0915 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6664 @ 0.00052482 = 3.4974 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1586 @ 0.00052482 = 0.8324 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11814 @ 0.00052485 = 6.2006 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 21:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-conference-freakshow/ there
Dec 04 21:25:48 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you forgot to clip the bitter line
Dec 04 21:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	haha why clip the bitter!
Dec 04 21:26:44 <Diablo-D3>	because the bitter was going for a different rant and you sidetracked me
Dec 04 21:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Dec 04 21:27:14 <Diablo-D3>	said rant: millions of dollars, none of them going to dmc.
Dec 04 21:27:18 <Diablo-D3>	:<
Dec 04 21:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	don't feel to bad, inaba lost it when he found out what mpex goes for.
Dec 04 21:28:04 <noagendamarket>	you could always invest in james mccarthy's new startup
Dec 04 21:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18157 @ 0.00052485 = 9.5297 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:28:52 <Diablo-D3>	who?
Dec 04 21:29:21 <noagendamarket>	https://www.linkedin.com/in/mccarthyjames
Dec 04 21:29:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3356 @ 0.00052485 = 1.7614 BTC [+]
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Dec 04 21:29:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18348 @ 0.000525 = 9.6327 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:29:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18115 @ 0.00052508 = 9.5118 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:29:54 <Diablo-D3>	wait, nefario has a last name?!
Dec 04 21:30:05 <Diablo-D3>	HE USED TO WORK FOR SUN?!
Dec 04 21:30:13 <noagendamarket>	lmao
Dec 04 21:30:25 <Diablo-D3>	EAT A DICK NEFARIO
Dec 04 21:30:26 <Diablo-D3>	EAT
Dec 04 21:30:27 <Diablo-D3>	A
Dec 04 21:30:28 <Diablo-D3>	DICK
Dec 04 21:30:32 <kuzetsa>	yeah, Jim MCDonalds or something like that.
Dec 04 21:30:41 <Diablo-D3>	kuzetsa: mccarthy
Dec 04 21:31:21 <kuzetsa>	at least I didn't say MCHammer
Dec 04 21:31:50 <kuzetsa>	... no, McDonalds was worse :(
Dec 04 21:31:51 <noagendamarket>	lol
Dec 04 21:32:14 <kuzetsa>	now I'm hungry
Dec 04 21:32:23 <noagendamarket>	inb4 he comes back as McBitcoin
Dec 04 21:32:28 *	kuzetsa sneaks into kitchen to hunt some wild donuts
Dec 04 21:33:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 04 21:33:36 <pigeons>	< noagendamarket> you could always invest in james mccarthy's new startup < nameterrific? ;)
Dec 04 21:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	Telesales executive
Dec 04 21:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	i like that part.
Dec 04 21:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052382 = 2.2634 BTC [-]
Dec 04 21:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.0005237 = 0.4865 BTC [-]
Dec 04 21:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	Software Engineer on the solaris testing team, quite impressive what can i tell you
Dec 04 21:35:05 <mircea_popescu>	i guess i was a senior software engineer on the blizzard testing team back when wow was in closed beta, right ?
Dec 04 21:36:35 <Diablo-D3>	fuck that then
Dec 04 21:36:54 <Diablo-D3>	Im a godlike software tester for both id software and valve on linux.
Dec 04 21:37:26 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, on my business cards, I use "Deity at large"
Dec 04 21:37:29 <pigeons>	no software tester is called "business analyst now
Dec 04 21:37:36 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: YES
Dec 04 21:38:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.0005237 = 3.0113 BTC [-]
Dec 04 21:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	can't i be business vaginist ?
Dec 04 21:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	analysm doesn't appeal.
Dec 04 21:38:40 <Diablo-D3>	bwhahah
Dec 04 21:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly, i wonder how long does it take to query a db on solaris.
Dec 04 21:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	2 months cca ?
Dec 04 21:44:17 <dub>	what
Dec 04 21:44:18 <dub>	the
Dec 04 21:44:20 <dub>	fuck
Dec 04 21:44:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 04 21:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/9719247/Amsterdam-to-create-scum-villages.html
Dec 04 21:45:07 <dub>	fuck genjix in his pimply ass
Dec 04 21:45:14 <dub>	what a fucking toolbag
Dec 04 21:45:50 <noagendamarket>	lol
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Dec 04 21:46:31 <noagendamarket>	putting the worst of society al in one place always works out well...
Dec 04 21:46:36 <dub>	bitcoins are like good cause like were hackers and fings, and silkroad and fing
Dec 04 21:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	indeed, looking forward to the torching of amsterdam at the hands of the goths
Dec 04 21:47:08 <pigeons>	someone jumped in and saved him at the end
Dec 04 21:47:32 <noagendamarket>	I enjoy watching train wrecks.
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Dec 04 21:47:59 <dub>	oh and technology like wikileaks and fings
Dec 04 21:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	so im making a romanian dicelist, cause apparently romanians are too retarded to have one already
Dec 04 21:48:08 <mircea_popescu>	my computer has been working hard for once.
Dec 04 21:48:59 <dub>	and internet guns and fings
Dec 04 21:49:35 <dub>	and im really enfusiastic and I would make a demonstration but i dont have bitcoin
Dec 04 21:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha he says that ?
Dec 04 21:50:18 <dub>	yes
Dec 04 21:50:39 <noagendamarket>	he could always give a demo about how to survive on noodles and bad cereal
Dec 04 21:50:45 <mircea_popescu>	then we wonder why people don't take bitcoin seriously.
Dec 04 21:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	well... if my first contact with bitcoin were something like this i'd still be laughing at you all.
Dec 04 21:51:13 <pigeons>	you should watch it mircea_popescu
Dec 04 21:51:17 <dub>	bitcoin is like a brick
Dec 04 21:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons don't have the energy.
Dec 04 21:51:33 <pigeons>	dub is hitting the highlights at least
Dec 04 21:51:51 <noagendamarket>	genjix could steal from the supermarket really good in that jacket
Dec 04 21:52:00 <dub>	and its based off of maffmatics
Dec 04 21:53:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005248 = 2.2677 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:53:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3856 @ 0.00052508 = 2.0247 BTC [+]
Dec 04 21:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	muffmnonix ?
Dec 04 21:54:03 <dub>	I dont think I can watch the questions
Dec 04 21:54:52 <dub>	he doesnt understand bitcoin at all
Dec 04 21:55:14 <dub>	the best thing he can do for bitcoin is shoot himself in the face
Dec 04 21:55:17 <noagendamarket>	Homeless people wear green jackets to blend into the plants at night
Dec 04 21:55:41 <dub>	they are just laughing at him
Dec 04 21:56:30 <pigeons>	a guy in the audience tells people don't laugh, its really complex, if you want to understand about it look on wikipedia
Dec 04 21:56:37 <dub>	computing maffmatical riddles for a small reward and its based on electricity
Dec 04 21:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052379 = 2.2633 BTC [-]
Dec 04 21:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3142 @ 0.0005237 = 1.6455 BTC [-]
Dec 04 21:58:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22787 @ 0.00052344 = 11.9276 BTC [-]
Dec 04 21:58:10 <dub>	mircea_popescu: you need to watch this, to understand what a complete shitcock he is
Dec 04 21:58:36 <noagendamarket>	its unwatcheable
Dec 04 21:58:51 <dub>	haha some random asshole tries to explain it for him, gets it completely wrong and he agrees with them
Dec 04 21:59:05 <dub>	its really hard to watch
Dec 04 21:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	arbitrage!
Dec 04 21:59:22 <dub>	hahah yeah
Dec 04 21:59:26 <noagendamarket>	I havent cringed that much s9ince the last season of big brother uk
Dec 04 22:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	i had a girl make me a transcript of nefario's speech about two months ago and then i had to give her sick leave the next day.
Dec 04 22:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	so ever since i've kinda stopped trying.
Dec 04 22:01:22 <dub>	this guy is hundreds of times worse than nefario
Dec 04 22:01:37 <pigeons>	this video is better
Dec 04 22:01:48 <pigeons>	you would like this one, i promise
Dec 04 22:02:15 <noagendamarket>	I would rather get bowel cancer
Dec 04 22:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	stop trying to troll me pigeons
Dec 04 22:02:52 <dub>	he is actually retarded
Dec 04 22:03:19 <pigeons>	i'm really not, this is something you would enjoy
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Dec 04 22:10:22 <dub>	yeah mircea_popescu its actually painful to watch, like some kind of s&m thing
Dec 04 22:11:33 <noagendamarket>	can you have someone committed to a mental institution ?
Dec 04 22:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	noagendamarket you have to sue
Dec 04 22:12:26 <noagendamarket>	why is someone speaking about bitcoin when they dont have any ?
Dec 04 22:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	dub no, s&m i enjoy dishing out. this however...
Dec 04 22:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	noagendamarket begging.
Dec 04 22:13:26 <dub>	he infers pretty strongly that he invented bitcoin
Dec 04 22:13:35 <noagendamarket>	where can you contribute to a bounty to have someone get a cream pie thrown in their face
Dec 04 22:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah wut
Dec 04 22:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	he didn't invent bitcoin, zoo thong did
Dec 04 22:14:34 <noagendamarket>	I thought tom williams did
Dec 04 22:14:43 <dub>	also, he's a hacker, yes hacker got that hacker, hacker HACKER hacker, that cant switch off a mobile phone
Dec 04 22:16:20 <pigeons>	"i wrote my own bitcoin"
Dec 04 22:16:36 <noagendamarket>	LOL @ calling wikileaks a technology
Dec 04 22:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	did he also have sex with his own bitcoin?
Dec 04 22:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005248 = 2.2677 BTC [+]
Dec 04 22:17:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00052508 = 3.402 BTC [+]
Dec 04 22:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	actually the word technolology is long over due
Dec 04 22:17:09 <dub>	I feel like he just raped my wallet.dat
Dec 04 22:17:10 <noagendamarket>	he pulled his own bitcoin
Dec 04 22:17:20 <pigeons>	you have your bitcoins in your little wallet file on your computer and no one in the world can take them away from you
Dec 04 22:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	remarkably clueless audience lol
Dec 04 22:17:44 <mircea_popescu>	"what happened to bitcoinica's ???"
Dec 04 22:17:47 <dub>	someone transcribe it for the forum
Dec 04 22:17:56 <dub>	it'll be fucking hilarious
Dec 04 22:18:15 <dub>	mircea_popescu: cue -pr
Dec 04 22:18:46 <dub>	one of the questioners is trolling him hard
Dec 04 22:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	she'll get hives and be extra mean to everyoner for a week
Dec 04 22:20:51 <noagendamarket>	lol @ going into a room full of bankers and talking about illegal drugs
Dec 04 22:21:28 <pigeons>	well you can also use it to fund projects that print weapons...
Dec 04 22:21:42 <dub>	yeah and wikileaks and fings
Dec 04 22:21:45 <noagendamarket>	you can send bitcoins to iran :P
Dec 04 22:21:58 <pigeons>	yeah technologies like wikileaks
Dec 04 22:21:58 <dub>	hah I forgot about that
Dec 04 22:24:14 <pigeons>	if you irretreivably damage your cassacius coin, you can still suck the bitcoin out of it
Dec 04 22:24:41 <noagendamarket>	Imagine if intersango ran the bitcoin foundation
Dec 04 22:25:00 <pigeons>	with bruce wagner
Dec 04 22:25:04 <noagendamarket>	lawl
Dec 04 22:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	and that guy
Dec 04 22:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	the mybitdaytrades or whatever it was
Dec 04 22:26:27 *	[\\\] is now known as \_\_\
Dec 04 22:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	the one rosenfeld didn;t front for
Dec 04 22:26:46 *	\_\_\ is now known as `0
Dec 04 22:26:55 *	`0 is now known as [\\\]
Dec 04 22:28:27 <pigeons>	genjix will get better with practice :)
Dec 04 22:28:55 <noagendamarket>	not really
Dec 04 22:29:05 <noagendamarket>	hes getting worse
Dec 04 22:29:47 <pigeons>	who was the guy who said its like a prime number that there are only 1 million of?
Dec 04 22:30:52 <pigeons>	at least then people were like, oh ok
Dec 04 22:31:34 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128998.0;topicseen
Dec 04 22:33:26 <dub>	lol what an idiot
Dec 04 22:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	prime numbers are made in china
Dec 04 22:33:52 <dub>	I tried to steal from my employer and got fired, suxs
Dec 04 22:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8152 @ 0.00052508 = 4.2805 BTC [+]
Dec 04 22:34:22 <pigeons>	I got more funnies
Dec 04 22:34:26 <pigeons>	https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/
Dec 04 22:34:59 <mircea_popescu>	We plan to review proposals on a quarterly basis, with the first grant submission deadline
Dec 04 22:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaa WHAT ?
Dec 04 22:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	dude, somebody needs to explain to gavin what side of the cock he's on.
Dec 04 22:36:15 <noagendamarket>	*submits a proposal to buy weed on silk road and resell for profit
Dec 04 22:36:37 <pigeons>	i'm gonna send one proposal for each btcjam listing
Dec 04 22:36:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052352 = 2.2621 BTC [-]
Dec 04 22:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4294 @ 0.00052344 = 2.2477 BTC [-]
Dec 04 22:36:56 <dub>	Brief overview of your proposal: buy 3d printer and materials to print an internet gun and shoot amir with it
Dec 04 22:37:05 <noagendamarket>	lol
Dec 04 22:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 04 22:37:35 <noagendamarket>	promote bitcoin in iran
Dec 04 22:37:46 <mircea_popescu>	i've been trying that. iranians are idiots pretty much.
Dec 04 22:38:27 <noagendamarket>	Just like to troll the US
Dec 04 22:38:35 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: its a big crying match though in -dev jgarzik kicked someone for wanting to promote to iran
Dec 04 22:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15119 @ 0.00052344 = 7.9139 BTC [-]
Dec 04 22:38:55 <mircea_popescu>	eh
Dec 04 22:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00052307 = 4.0538 BTC [-]
Dec 04 22:39:08 <dub>	my conspiracy theory that there is a dev cabal working to keep bitcoin under ground by promoting scams and retardation is looking more and more likely
Dec 04 22:39:22 <mircea_popescu>	-dev is kinda like btctalk bneh ?
Dec 04 22:39:53 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/taMsQLBN
Dec 04 22:39:57 <dub>	no -dev is actually about dev, they police it well
Dec 04 22:41:01 <mircea_popescu>	<jgarzik> But in particular, it is the height of stupidity to encourage bitcoin use in (a) countries under sanction by the US and Europe
Dec 04 22:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	he's not very bright is he.
Dec 04 22:41:17 <dub>	agree with jgarzik too, its illegal and that is the public face of bitcoin dev
Dec 04 22:41:38 <noagendamarket>	bitcoin dev /= US
Dec 04 22:41:43 <dub>	stupid, unenforced law aside
Dec 04 22:42:03 <dub>	well sha is owned by the US govt
Dec 04 22:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	i don't grasp the constant need to allign with something or the other.
Dec 04 22:42:37 <noagendamarket>	I wiondert why no one boycotts the US
Dec 04 22:42:45 <dub>	and exporting it to embargoed countries is illegal
Dec 04 22:42:47 <pigeons>	guns
Dec 04 22:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	"let's not translate this program to iran cause bush doesn't like khomeini" ? wtf is that.
Dec 04 22:43:02 <mircea_popescu>	should be kicked off foss.
Dec 04 22:43:35 <noagendamarket>	if you boycott the US you get called a terrorist lol
Dec 04 22:44:19 <pigeons>	i think i found a market. debt counseling services for bitcoin
Dec 04 22:44:24 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128967.0;topicseen
Dec 04 22:44:52 <dub>	theres a strong demand for face punching services
Dec 04 22:45:03 <pigeons>	the pie throwing was a good idea
Dec 04 22:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	btw, is there a bitcoin callgirl service yet ?
Dec 04 22:46:19 <pigeons>	genjix had a teen camgirl service
Dec 04 22:46:30 <noagendamarket>	genjix is a pimp
Dec 04 22:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	camgirl is to callgirl what medieval reenacting is to rape and pillage.
Dec 04 22:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	but you know, i find it very dubious that silkroad matters if there's not a sex-for-bitcoin thing.
Dec 04 22:47:26 <noagendamarket>	if you send bitcoins to a hooker 2 hours beforehand techincally its just 2 adults meeting for sex
Dec 04 22:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	no matter how you turn it sex is a bigger market.
Dec 04 22:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	noagendamarket certainly could not make a prostitution case stick as things are now. so... yeah.
Dec 04 22:48:17 <dub>	wait, prostitution is still illegal in places?
Dec 04 22:48:22 <noagendamarket>	call it hot wallets lol
Dec 04 22:48:44 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3066.0
Dec 04 22:48:51 <mircea_popescu>	dub iran.
Dec 04 22:51:05 <noagendamarket>	I think there was o0nce a brothel that accepted btc
Dec 04 22:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051919 = 2.2434 BTC [-]
Dec 04 22:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2679 @ 0.00051917 = 1.3909 BTC [-]
Dec 04 22:56:03 <dub>	pigeons: I like nefario's question "how do I get in on this?!"
Dec 04 22:57:42 <pigeons>	"But really, how do you meet people like this in real life?"
Dec 04 23:06:11 <pigeons>	i wonder how many of the addresses in the list giga got belong to nefario
Dec 04 23:06:34 <pigeons>	well i guess it wouldnt help in that case, cause of the process giga is requiring
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Dec 04 23:23:20 <noagendamarket>	start an underground asset then go running to the government when you hit a snag = profit!
Dec 04 23:23:53 <noagendamarket>	I hope the government screws him  as badly as anyone who bought shares
Dec 04 23:23:58 <pigeons>	"it was a legal grey area before, now i know a lawyer"
Dec 04 23:24:04 <noagendamarket>	lol
Dec 04 23:24:20 <noagendamarket>	in some cases you dont even know that
Dec 04 23:25:04 <noagendamarket>	I have to take all your money because i saw a lawyer on the simpsons
Dec 04 23:25:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2331 @ 0.00051956 = 1.2111 BTC [+]
Dec 04 23:25:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00051963 = 7.4567 BTC [+]
Dec 04 23:25:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5364 @ 0.00052508 = 2.8165 BTC [+]
Dec 04 23:25:54 <noagendamarket>	do lawyers usually advise you to steal all the underground currency you hold ?
Dec 04 23:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005192 = 2.2435 BTC [-]
Dec 04 23:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5771 @ 0.00051917 = 2.9961 BTC [-]
Dec 04 23:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2708 @ 0.00051832 = 1.4036 BTC [-]
Dec 04 23:27:36 <noagendamarket>	I am a bad ass except when i actually speak to a lawyer, in which case not
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Dec 04 23:28:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052477 = 2.2675 BTC [+]
Dec 04 23:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052477 = 2.2675 BTC [+]
Dec 04 23:28:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052479 = 2.2676 BTC [+]
Dec 04 23:28:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1837 @ 0.00052479 = 0.964 BTC [+]
Dec 04 23:30:46 <noagendamarket>	http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Lawyer
Dec 04 23:33:22 <noagendamarket>	I wonder if cryptostocks or mpex shut down would the owners even get a scammer tag unless theymos owned shares in them
Dec 04 23:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	mpex can shut down orderly, what's the problem.
Dec 04 23:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00052473 = 2.0727 BTC [-]
Dec 04 23:35:30 <pigeons>	shut down? or shut down and over a month later hasn't given the btc or asset info?
Dec 04 23:36:36 <noagendamarket>	I mean bitcoinica still hasnt returbned funds
Dec 04 23:37:01 <noagendamarket>	why do to operators still not have tags
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Dec 04 23:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 371 @ 0.00052473 = 0.1947 BTC [-]
Dec 04 23:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2484 @ 0.00052479 = 1.3036 BTC [+]
Dec 04 23:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24595 @ 0.00052508 = 12.9143 BTC [+]
Dec 04 23:43:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00052099 = 3.8814 BTC [-]
Dec 04 23:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/romanian-dicelist/ romanian dicelist if anyone cares.
Dec 04 23:47:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1653 @ 0.00052099 = 0.8612 BTC [-]
Dec 04 23:47:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5289 @ 0.00052508 = 2.7771 BTC [+]
Dec 04 23:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5558 @ 0.00052512 = 2.9186 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 00:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051843 = 2.2401 BTC [-]
Dec 05 00:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4595 @ 0.00051832 = 2.3817 BTC [-]
Dec 05 00:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051834 = 2.2397 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17204 @ 0.00051832 = 8.9172 BTC [-]
Dec 05 00:10:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15775 @ 0.00051822 = 8.1749 BTC [-]
Dec 05 00:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051975 = 2.2458 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14329 @ 0.00051988 = 7.4494 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051963 = 2.2453 BTC [-]
Dec 05 00:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4821 @ 0.00051988 = 2.5063 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:14:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10778 @ 0.00052512 = 5.6597 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:14:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15030 @ 0.00052526 = 7.8947 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8370 @ 0.00052526 = 4.3964 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4428 @ 0.00052541 = 2.3265 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00052557 = 6.885 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3133 @ 0.00052559 = 1.6467 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:19:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14790 @ 0.00052559 = 7.7735 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15704 @ 0.00052564 = 8.2547 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00332634 = 11.6422 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:36:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00052004 = 11.5449 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 00:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2096 @ 0.00052564 = 1.1017 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:47:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14378 @ 0.00052566 = 7.5579 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:47:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4176 @ 0.00052567 = 2.1952 BTC [+]
Dec 05 00:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00052004 = 1.4041 BTC [-]
Dec 05 00:49:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9775 @ 0.00051822 = 5.0656 BTC [-]
Dec 05 00:49:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 275 @ 0.00051742 = 0.1423 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 01:02:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8024 @ 0.00052567 = 4.218 BTC [+]
Dec 05 01:02:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00052569 = 7.1757 BTC [+]
Dec 05 01:02:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00052573 = 5.1522 BTC [+]
Dec 05 01:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3576 @ 0.00052576 = 1.8801 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 01:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2350 @ 0.00332634 = 7.8169 BTC [+]
Dec 05 01:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15924 @ 0.00052576 = 8.3722 BTC [+]
Dec 05 01:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4676 @ 0.00052606 = 2.4599 BTC [+]
Dec 05 01:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051757 = 2.2364 BTC [-]
Dec 05 01:26:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13906 @ 0.00051742 = 7.1952 BTC [-]
Dec 05 01:26:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6397 @ 0.00051739 = 3.3097 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 01:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00052137 = 4.197 BTC [+]
Dec 05 01:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051762 = 2.2366 BTC [-]
Dec 05 01:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11609 @ 0.00051739 = 6.0064 BTC [-]
Dec 05 01:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00052198 = 3.8888 BTC [+]
Dec 05 01:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052575 = 2.2718 BTC [+]
Dec 05 01:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18329 @ 0.00052606 = 9.6422 BTC [+]
Dec 05 02:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 175 @ 0.00332634 = 0.5821 BTC [+]
Dec 05 02:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00326961 = 3.4331 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1277 @ 0.00323801 = 4.1349 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052172 = 2.2544 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25479 @ 0.00052147 = 13.2865 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:11:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052592 = 2.2725 BTC [+]
Dec 05 02:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8929 @ 0.00052606 = 4.6972 BTC [+]
Dec 05 02:13:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052172 = 2.2544 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:13:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2171 @ 0.00052147 = 1.1321 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00052082 = 7.1873 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4694 @ 0.00051739 = 2.4286 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1514 @ 0.00051721 = 0.7831 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15586 @ 0.00051721 = 8.0612 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4289 @ 0.00051618 = 2.2139 BTC [-]
Dec 05 02:14:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3740 @ 0.00051618 = 1.9305 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 02:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052605 = 2.2731 BTC [+]
Dec 05 02:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 571 @ 0.00052606 = 0.3004 BTC [+]
Dec 05 02:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12395 @ 0.00052606 = 6.5205 BTC [+]
Dec 05 02:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12613 @ 0.00052612 = 6.636 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 03:02:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.0005247 = 0.446 BTC [-]
Dec 05 03:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3471 @ 0.0005247 = 1.8212 BTC [-]
Dec 05 03:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00052488 = 7.0334 BTC [+]
Dec 05 03:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5733 @ 0.00052596 = 3.0153 BTC [+]
Dec 05 03:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051802 = 2.2384 BTC [-]
Dec 05 03:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10929 @ 0.00051796 = 5.6608 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 03:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000518 = 2.2383 BTC [+]
Dec 05 03:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8121 @ 0.00051796 = 4.2064 BTC [-]
Dec 05 03:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4193 @ 0.00051618 = 2.1643 BTC [-]
Dec 05 03:20:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7816 @ 0.00051618 = 4.0345 BTC [-]
Dec 05 03:20:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15141 @ 0.00051547 = 7.8047 BTC [-]
Dec 05 03:20:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26286 @ 0.00051503 = 13.5381 BTC [-]
Dec 05 03:21:25 <dub>	goddamn hangover
Dec 05 03:34:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00051503 = 2.9357 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 03:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1586 @ 0.00051503 = 0.8168 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 03:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9964 @ 0.00051433 = 5.1248 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 04:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052028 = 2.2481 BTC [+]
Dec 05 04:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052054 = 2.2493 BTC [+]
Dec 05 04:02:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4658 @ 0.00052058 = 2.4249 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 04:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051447 = 2.223 BTC [-]
Dec 05 04:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32468 @ 0.00051433 = 16.6993 BTC [-]
Dec 05 04:09:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051446 = 2.223 BTC [+]
Dec 05 04:09:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6851 @ 0.00051433 = 3.5237 BTC [-]
Dec 05 04:09:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5876 @ 0.00051431 = 3.0221 BTC [-]
Dec 05 04:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22581 @ 0.00051488 = 11.6265 BTC [+]
Dec 05 04:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23209 @ 0.00051431 = 11.9366 BTC [-]
Dec 05 04:22:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5515 @ 0.00051431 = 2.8364 BTC [-]
Dec 05 04:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 735 @ 0.00051375 = 0.3776 BTC [-]
Dec 05 04:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12271 @ 0.00051375 = 6.3042 BTC [-]
Dec 05 04:26:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5038 @ 0.00051372 = 2.5881 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 04:29:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21744 @ 0.00051372 = 11.1703 BTC [-]
Dec 05 04:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16906 @ 0.00051371 = 8.6848 BTC [-]
Dec 05 04:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00051818 = 9.1977 BTC [+]
Dec 05 04:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052054 = 2.2493 BTC [+]
Dec 05 04:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4242 @ 0.00052058 = 2.2083 BTC [+]
Dec 05 04:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0005206 = 6.5596 BTC [+]
Dec 05 04:49:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17237 @ 0.00052446 = 9.0401 BTC [+]
Dec 05 05:00:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052427 = 2.2654 BTC [-]
Dec 05 05:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00052446 = 3.1882 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 05:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16196 @ 0.00052206 = 8.4553 BTC [-]
Dec 05 05:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052164 = 2.254 BTC [-]
Dec 05 05:13:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25350 @ 0.00052138 = 13.217 BTC [-]
Dec 05 05:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 229 @ 0.00052019 = 0.1191 BTC [-]
Dec 05 05:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9745 @ 0.00052206 = 5.0875 BTC [+]
Dec 05 05:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051864 = 2.241 BTC [-]
Dec 05 05:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26420 @ 0.0005185 = 13.6988 BTC [-]
Dec 05 05:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2559 @ 0.00051818 = 1.326 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 05:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1307 @ 0.00321357 = 4.2001 BTC [-]
Dec 05 05:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15191 @ 0.00051818 = 7.8717 BTC [-]
Dec 05 05:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15184 @ 0.00051759 = 7.8591 BTC [-]
Dec 05 05:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1397 @ 0.00052204 = 0.7293 BTC [+]
Dec 05 05:57:18 <jurov>	http://imgur.com/7Hwte what isn't illegal there...
Dec 05 05:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Dec 05 06:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2924 @ 0.00052204 = 1.5264 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:06:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8309 @ 0.00052206 = 4.3378 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:06:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7921 @ 0.00052446 = 4.1542 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:06:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5597 @ 0.00052592 = 2.9436 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 06:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005257 = 2.2715 BTC [-]
Dec 05 06:20:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 503 @ 0.00052592 = 0.2645 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15635 @ 0.00052596 = 8.2234 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3432 @ 0.00052596 = 1.8051 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:22:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6468 @ 0.00052602 = 3.4023 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:24:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13282 @ 0.00052602 = 6.9866 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 418 @ 0.00052612 = 0.2199 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052169 = 2.2542 BTC [-]
Dec 05 06:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00052141 = 13.322 BTC [-]
Dec 05 06:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6524 @ 0.00051759 = 3.3768 BTC [-]
Dec 05 06:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052589 = 2.2724 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17219 @ 0.00052612 = 9.0593 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00052622 = 4.6307 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 760 @ 0.00052632 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18240 @ 0.00052632 = 9.6001 BTC [+]
Dec 05 06:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9535 @ 0.00052643 = 5.0195 BTC [+]
Dec 05 07:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051788 = 2.2378 BTC [-]
Dec 05 07:07:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 901 @ 0.00051759 = 0.4663 BTC [-]
Dec 05 07:07:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6378 @ 0.000517 = 3.2974 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 07:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005172 = 2.2348 BTC [+]
Dec 05 07:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20041 @ 0.000517 = 10.3612 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 07:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6681 @ 0.000517 = 3.4541 BTC [-]
Dec 05 07:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00051694 = 4.2131 BTC [-]
Dec 05 07:22:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2969 @ 0.00051647 = 1.5334 BTC [-]
Dec 05 07:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052628 = 2.2741 BTC [+]
Dec 05 07:47:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5079 @ 0.00052643 = 2.6737 BTC [+]
Dec 05 07:49:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051662 = 2.2323 BTC [-]
Dec 05 07:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00051647 = 0.2474 BTC [-]
Dec 05 07:51:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11452 @ 0.00051647 = 5.9146 BTC [-]
Dec 05 07:51:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 268 @ 0.0005144 = 0.1379 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:02:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7610 @ 0.0005144 = 3.9146 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:02:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13186 @ 0.00051371 = 6.7738 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:02:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3346 @ 0.00051338 = 1.7178 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14542 @ 0.00051338 = 7.4656 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00051542 = 6.9839 BTC [+]
Dec 05 08:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00051514 = 3.1166 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12 @ 0.00051338 = 0.0062 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:24:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00051262 = 2.6144 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:24:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10582 @ 0.00051234 = 5.4216 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:24:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13056 @ 0.00051217 = 6.6869 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24894 @ 0.00051217 = 12.75 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26324 @ 0.00051176 = 13.4716 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00051542 = 4.3295 BTC [+]
Dec 05 08:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00051346 = 1.0783 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:50:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 489 @ 0.00051346 = 0.2511 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:50:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5724 @ 0.00051542 = 2.9503 BTC [+]
Dec 05 08:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8187 @ 0.00052115 = 4.2667 BTC [+]
Dec 05 08:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052114 = 2.2518 BTC [-]
Dec 05 08:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16971 @ 0.00052115 = 8.8444 BTC [+]
Dec 05 08:53:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19613 @ 0.00052286 = 10.2549 BTC [+]
Dec 05 08:53:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 186 @ 0.00052643 = 0.0979 BTC [+]
Dec 05 08:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2759 @ 0.00052645 = 1.4525 BTC [+]
Dec 05 09:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052617 = 2.2736 BTC [-]
Dec 05 09:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4929 @ 0.00052645 = 2.5949 BTC [+]
Dec 05 09:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10691 @ 0.00051414 = 5.4967 BTC [-]
Dec 05 09:21:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 909 @ 0.00051414 = 0.4674 BTC [-]
Dec 05 09:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7091 @ 0.00051439 = 3.6475 BTC [+]
Dec 05 09:24:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051189 = 2.2119 BTC [-]
Dec 05 09:24:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9338 @ 0.00051176 = 4.7788 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 09:50:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051193 = 2.212 BTC [+]
Dec 05 09:50:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11138 @ 0.00051176 = 5.7 BTC [-]
Dec 05 09:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11032 @ 0.00051171 = 5.6452 BTC [-]
Dec 05 09:54:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00051171 = 7.9827 BTC [-]
Dec 05 09:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005226 = 2.2582 BTC [+]
Dec 05 09:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22798 @ 0.00052289 = 11.9208 BTC [+]
Dec 05 10:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051193 = 2.212 BTC [-]
Dec 05 10:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3068 @ 0.00051171 = 1.5699 BTC [-]
Dec 05 10:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00051073 = 1.4811 BTC [-]
Dec 05 10:07:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6361 @ 0.00051057 = 3.2477 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 10:12:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2248 @ 0.0032199 = 7.2383 BTC [+]
Dec 05 10:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 295 @ 0.00324186 = 0.9563 BTC [+]
Dec 05 10:13:57 <PsychoticBoy>	So how is life in scammer paradise
Dec 05 10:14:06 <jurov>	cosy
Dec 05 10:14:45 <jurov>	at least outside starry-eyed teens territory
Dec 05 10:15:20 <PsychoticBoy>	My Lawyer (O. Hammerstein) just send out a letter to James McCarthy, to force him to give my list, also gigavps is next
Dec 05 10:16:16 <jurov>	what threats did he use? lawsuit?
Dec 05 10:17:39 <PsychoticBoy>	If he does not send the list and bitcoin, lawsuit is next and easy since he live 500KM next to me :D
Dec 05 10:18:11 <PsychoticBoy>	I am done with this shit now\
Dec 05 10:18:45 <PsychoticBoy>	Gave James more than 2 months and he still has not solved the mess he worked himself into
Dec 05 10:18:52 <jurov>	what does the lawyer think about whole enterprise? it's considered a game money, or does he thing nef should get sec registered?
Dec 05 10:19:03 <jurov>	no sec. FSA
Dec 05 10:19:46 <PsychoticBoy>	since bitcoin has value and we have to pay tax here if you use btc as money, yes bitcoin=money $
Dec 05 10:20:16 <jurov>	that's clear, but i mean that "unlicensed securities" thing
Dec 05 10:20:48 <PsychoticBoy>	FSA in the UK and here in The Netherlands the AFM
Dec 05 10:21:10 <jurov>	ah so i thought you're in uk
Dec 05 10:22:06 <PsychoticBoy>	my lawyer sees this exactly the same as a AEX/NASDAQ or such exchange
Dec 05 10:22:26 <kakobrekla>	the thing is, its not about how your lawyers sees it
Dec 05 10:22:26 <PsychoticBoy>	only paid in btc
Dec 05 10:22:52 <PsychoticBoy>	only its a grey area since there are no regulations
Dec 05 10:23:38 <PsychoticBoy>	OOH gigavps acts how his lawyer sees it
Dec 05 10:23:58 <PsychoticBoy>	This lawyer shit cost me already 500euro
Dec 05 10:27:15 <PsychoticBoy>	I am hoping James McCarthy will react on my Lawyers letter, if not........ then this is going to get horrible drama
Dec 05 10:27:45 <PsychoticBoy>	I got 2/3K btc in GLBSE assets-btc
Dec 05 10:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11839 @ 0.00051057 = 6.0446 BTC [-]
Dec 05 10:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.0005105 = 7.4533 BTC [-]
Dec 05 10:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1061 @ 0.00051049 = 0.5416 BTC [-]
Dec 05 10:49:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00051049 = 7.4532 BTC [-]
Dec 05 10:53:27 <jok>	If somebody wants to write base of cryptocurrency bitcoin2 in J (K,Q) or wants to make HFT* robot. write me, dears
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Dec 05 10:59:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17739 @ 0.00051049 = 9.0556 BTC [-]
Dec 05 10:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1514 @ 0.00051037 = 0.7727 BTC [-]
Dec 05 11:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051272 = 2.2155 BTC [+]
Dec 05 11:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8803 @ 0.00051307 = 4.5166 BTC [+]
Dec 05 11:08:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2926 @ 0.00051472 = 1.5061 BTC [+]
Dec 05 11:09:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051049 = 2.2058 BTC [-]
Dec 05 11:09:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00051037 = 3.3067 BTC [-]
Dec 05 11:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2525 @ 0.0032169 = 8.1227 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 11:16:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051467 = 2.2239 BTC [+]
Dec 05 11:16:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6674 @ 0.00051472 = 3.4352 BTC [+]
Dec 05 11:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7659 @ 0.0005151 = 3.9452 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 11:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051501 = 2.2254 BTC [-]
Dec 05 11:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9491 @ 0.0005151 = 4.8888 BTC [+]
Dec 05 11:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00051632 = 7.022 BTC [+]
Dec 05 11:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9188 @ 0.00051717 = 4.7518 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 11:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00051222 = 3.1245 BTC [-]
Dec 05 11:54:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00051222 = 0.7171 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 11:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00051157 = 15.8075 BTC [-]
Dec 05 11:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00051037 = 0.7145 BTC [-]
Dec 05 12:04:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00051174 = 7.4202 BTC [+]
Dec 05 12:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2242 @ 0.00051717 = 1.1595 BTC [+]
Dec 05 12:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00051784 = 1.2169 BTC [+]
Dec 05 12:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3208 @ 0.00052065 = 1.6702 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 12:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18860 @ 0.00052065 = 9.8195 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 12:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2532 @ 0.00052065 = 1.3183 BTC [+]
Dec 05 12:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18168 @ 0.00052075 = 9.461 BTC [+]
Dec 05 12:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00051603 = 10.3722 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 12:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0032169 = 2.2518 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 12:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051068 = 2.2066 BTC [-]
Dec 05 12:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16457 @ 0.00051037 = 8.3992 BTC [-]
Dec 05 12:44:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5277 @ 0.00051003 = 2.6914 BTC [-]
Dec 05 12:44:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7495 @ 0.00050942 = 3.8181 BTC [-]
Dec 05 12:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051267 = 2.2152 BTC [+]
Dec 05 12:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13629 @ 0.00051302 = 6.9919 BTC [+]
Dec 05 12:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050951 = 2.2016 BTC [-]
Dec 05 12:48:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30979 @ 0.00050942 = 15.7813 BTC [-]
Dec 05 12:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051283 = 2.2159 BTC [+]
Dec 05 12:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11041 @ 0.00051302 = 5.6643 BTC [+]
Dec 05 12:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21488 @ 0.00051587 = 11.085 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 13:09:07 <pigeons>	noagendamarket: James M. is "In the procss of funding a FinTech startup in PeerFinance" what info do you have on this?
Dec 05 13:09:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050965 = 2.2022 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:09:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1329 @ 0.00050942 = 0.677 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:13:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051176 = 2.2113 BTC [+]
Dec 05 13:13:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22379 @ 0.00051162 = 11.4495 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:14:35 <pigeons>	i'm hoping that's old from when glbse was alive
Dec 05 13:15:03 <gigavps>	i don't think so
Dec 05 13:15:15 <pigeons>	that's some balls
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Dec 05 13:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3221 @ 0.00051162 = 1.6479 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22015 @ 0.00050942 = 11.2149 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 13:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8682 @ 0.00050942 = 4.4228 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8618 @ 0.00050878 = 4.3847 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1275 @ 0.0032169 = 4.1015 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:29:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1165 @ 0.00321357 = 3.7438 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:29:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1764 @ 0.00320667 = 5.6566 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2597 @ 0.00050878 = 1.3213 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00050872 = 10.734 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.0005087 = 12.921 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9453 @ 0.0005085 = 4.8069 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9532 @ 0.0005128 = 4.888 BTC [+]
Dec 05 13:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1718 @ 0.0005156 = 0.8858 BTC [+]
Dec 05 13:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6447 @ 0.0005085 = 3.2783 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00050841 = 5.5417 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6753 @ 0.00050839 = 3.4332 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 13:51:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32300 @ 0.00051166 = 16.5266 BTC [+]
Dec 05 13:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 647 @ 0.00050839 = 0.3289 BTC [-]
Dec 05 13:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 406 @ 0.00050838 = 0.2064 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 13:57:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2603 @ 0.0005156 = 1.3421 BTC [+]
Dec 05 13:57:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10112 @ 0.00051587 = 5.2165 BTC [+]
Dec 05 13:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2485 @ 0.00051597 = 1.2822 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 14:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 84 @ 0.00324186 = 0.2723 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 14:24:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10679 @ 0.00051119 = 5.459 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 14:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051086 = 2.2074 BTC [+]
Dec 05 14:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6579 @ 0.00051119 = 3.3631 BTC [+]
Dec 05 14:47:23 <dub>	write me dears
Dec 05 15:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00050723 = 2.0796 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 15:07:39 <mod6>	whats up dub :]
Dec 05 15:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18481 @ 0.00050718 = 9.3732 BTC [-]
Dec 05 15:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20265 @ 0.00050718 = 10.278 BTC [-]
Dec 05 15:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25950 @ 0.00050686 = 13.153 BTC [-]
Dec 05 15:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7702 @ 0.00050643 = 3.9005 BTC [-]
Dec 05 15:16:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 371 @ 0.00324186 = 1.2027 BTC [+]
Dec 05 15:19:34 <Namjies>	I just received a new GLBSE list!
Dec 05 15:19:46 <Namjies>	Looks like James not dead yet...
Dec 05 15:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051087 = 2.2075 BTC [+]
Dec 05 15:23:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6628 @ 0.00051119 = 3.3882 BTC [+]
Dec 05 15:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3201 @ 0.00051597 = 1.6516 BTC [+]
Dec 05 15:26:45 <Diablo-D3>	yes, against our wishes
Dec 05 15:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051586 = 2.229 BTC [-]
Dec 05 15:29:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24279 @ 0.00051597 = 12.5272 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 15:30:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13457 @ 0.0005164 = 6.9492 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 15:51:24 <jurov>	lol, imagine some poor attorney trying to figure out glbse after nef's death
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Dec 05 16:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/amir-taaki-has-done-and-continues-to-do-huge-disservice-to-anyone-serious-involved-in-bitcoin/
Dec 05 16:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	there's your transcript.
Dec 05 16:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe-pr broke out in hives reading it. i haven't read it myself.
Dec 05 16:09:28 <jcpham>	i can't read it because of the "uh's"
Dec 05 16:10:03 <dub>	would be funnier translated into english
Dec 05 16:10:20 <dub>	like the english 50 cent twitter account
Dec 05 16:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00051078 = 2.6305 BTC [+]
Dec 05 16:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3643 @ 0.0005164 = 1.8812 BTC [+]
Dec 05 16:11:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3514 @ 0.00051758 = 1.8188 BTC [+]
Dec 05 16:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol ?
Dec 05 16:11:12 <jcpham>	so what am i reading?
Dec 05 16:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham some talk given by that genjix imbecile.
Dec 05 16:11:29 <dub>	click the link at the top
Dec 05 16:11:35 <jcpham>	when was it given?
Dec 05 16:12:16 *	jcpham found the youtube
Dec 05 16:12:49 <dub>	mircea_popescu: possibly the finest use of twitter ever, https://twitter.com/English50cent (ignore the latest stuff)
Dec 05 16:13:01 <dub>	jcpham: you may need a strong drink to get through that
Dec 05 16:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham there's a link in the intro giving context/source etc.
Dec 05 16:14:42 <jcpham>	i can't handle the uh's
Dec 05 16:14:57 <jcpham>	it's bad public speaking and it bothers me a lot
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Dec 05 16:19:51 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Dec 05 16:24:29 <pigeons>	i just wanted you to watch it mircea_popescu
Dec 05 16:25:22 <dub>	its good to watch it
Dec 05 16:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	yawell, we don't always get what we want.
Dec 05 16:25:40 <mod6>	ugh i see why she got hives. so much bad information from that guy.
Dec 05 16:26:14 <kakobrekla>	yeah a shame.
Dec 05 16:26:37 <kakobrekla>	i have seen it before and ill see it again.
Dec 05 16:27:59 <mod6>	lol when people ask me how btc comes from, im gonna tell 'em:
Dec 05 16:28:00 <mod6>	Mathematics. Yeah.
Dec 05 16:28:09 <mod6>	s/how/where
Dec 05 16:28:20 <kakobrekla>	its true
Dec 05 16:28:25 <kakobrekla>	you do 1+1 and you have 2 btc
Dec 05 16:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29554 @ 0.00051758 = 15.2966 BTC [+]
Dec 05 16:28:45 <kakobrekla>	2.14 if you are pirate
Dec 05 16:29:02 <jcpham>	1% per day baby!
Dec 05 16:29:11 <mod6>	haha
Dec 05 16:31:01 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, thanks mpoe-pr for transcription... i can now try to digest all that wisdom
Dec 05 16:31:03 <noagendamarket>	pigeons I guess nefario shut down glbse and will start a clone site meaning the shareholders get screwed too
Dec 05 16:31:26 <kakobrekla>	nowai he will start a clone
Dec 05 16:31:32 <kakobrekla>	even if he manages to code it
Dec 05 16:31:42 <pigeons>	i imagine it would have to be attempted under a new identity
Dec 05 16:31:59 <kakobrekla>	doubt it
Dec 05 16:32:02 <pigeons>	i don't think he believes he has any trust left
Dec 05 16:32:08 <kakobrekla>	he is too big of a chicken
Dec 05 16:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051058 = 2.2062 BTC [-]
Dec 05 16:32:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 981 @ 0.00051051 = 0.5008 BTC [-]
Dec 05 16:32:22 <mircea_popescu>	jurov she didn't do it, it fell on the new girl.
Dec 05 16:32:24 <pigeons>	oh yeah this is the "legit" thing
Dec 05 16:32:36 *	Ukto legit's pigeons
Dec 05 16:33:01 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile in legit news : http://calvinayre.com/2012/11/30/conferences/social-gaming-asia-summit-summary-ao-video
Dec 05 16:33:02 *	kakobrekla writes to dear dub
Dec 05 16:33:05 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is at 1:45
Dec 05 16:34:07 <kakobrekla>	new girl mp?
Dec 05 16:34:10 <kakobrekla>	pics or gtfo
Dec 05 16:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://imgur.com/gallery/NYDMZ << win
Dec 05 16:34:26 <kakobrekla>	this is not female
Dec 05 16:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla she's shy. and besides! wtf business am i running here.
Dec 05 16:34:37 <kakobrekla>	porn no?
Dec 05 16:34:39 <mircea_popescu>	this ain't a cunnyshack
Dec 05 16:42:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1565 @ 0.00328056 = 5.1341 BTC [+]
Dec 05 16:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129337.0 <<
Dec 05 16:48:36 <noagendamarket>	that video gave me cancer
Dec 05 16:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	this is why i'm going to live to bury all of oyu.
Dec 05 16:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	i don't watch cancer videos.
Dec 05 16:50:20 <pigeons>	i'll genjixroll you one day
Dec 05 16:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 05 16:51:34 <dub>	a place I worked had a customer that claimed we gave him bowel cancer and killed him
Dec 05 16:51:35 <noagendamarket>	lol
Dec 05 16:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	s/a place/fastfood/
Dec 05 16:52:01 <dub>	because he could only get 9something Mbit out of his 10Mbit cable connection
Dec 05 16:52:14 <dub>	and all teh years complaining about it had caused the stress that caused the cancer etc
Dec 05 16:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	and also that one time, at night, he shoved the antenna up his ass.
Dec 05 16:52:47 <pigeons>	one time?
Dec 05 16:53:00 <dub>	i mean if I knew hot to give cancer out over the internet, we wouldnt have this problem with genjix
Dec 05 16:53:09 <dub>	how*
Dec 05 16:53:24 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Dec 05 16:54:56 <noagendamarket>	if only you could punch people in the face over the internet
Dec 05 16:55:26 <noagendamarket>	there would be lots of broken teeth
Dec 05 16:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	the only thingthat'd do would be a service of internet gloryhole
Dec 05 16:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	where "straight" pasty fatasses would suck each other off
Dec 05 16:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	o wait.... that's how it already works!
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Dec 05 16:59:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00051051 = 4.4159 BTC [-]
Dec 05 17:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	and now for something completely different. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49UZa0TO2zQ
Dec 05 17:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051756 = 2.2364 BTC [+]
Dec 05 17:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3029 @ 0.00051758 = 1.5677 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 17:04:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051064 = 2.2065 BTC [-]
Dec 05 17:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9621 @ 0.00051051 = 4.9116 BTC [-]
Dec 05 17:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15558 @ 0.00051017 = 7.9372 BTC [-]
Dec 05 17:05:00 <dub>	jesus fuck I spent a lot in getting drunk the other night
Dec 05 17:05:27 <Namjies>	What the heck is that transcript for?
Dec 05 17:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	<mircea_popescu> there's a link in the intro giving context/source etc.
Dec 05 17:05:59 <dub>	amir speaking at a finance conference
Dec 05 17:06:27 <dub>	ah, bought case of bollinger
Dec 05 17:06:30 <dub>	that helps
Dec 05 17:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2855 @ 0.00051017 = 1.4565 BTC [-]
Dec 05 17:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6256 @ 0.00050643 = 3.1682 BTC [-]
Dec 05 17:09:47 <Namjies>	Which conference? Why? Who's Amir?
Dec 05 17:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen genjix
Dec 05 17:10:05 <gribble>	genjix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 9 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <genjix> nefario is legit. for sure there is a reasonable explanation and everyone will get their bitcoins back. i trust the guy.
Dec 05 17:10:13 <dub>	ahahaha
Dec 05 17:10:17 <jurov>	lol
Dec 05 17:10:24 <dub>	that is golden
Dec 05 17:10:28 <kakobrekla>	hahaha
Dec 05 17:10:33 <mircea_popescu>	then i told him to suck it and then he left
Dec 05 17:10:49 <dub>	Namjies: Amir is founder of interscamgo
Dec 05 17:11:20 <dub>	also chief bitcoin fuckwad and oxygen waster
Dec 05 17:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	he should do a trio with wright and wagner.
Dec 05 17:11:40 <mircea_popescu>	the WWT
Dec 05 17:12:25 <jcpham>	i miss antagonizing MNW
Dec 05 17:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	it boggles to think that at some point bitcoin was so in the shit people like these were either apparently or actually contributing
Dec 05 17:14:35 <jcpham>	nah i just miss MNW coming on IRC and talking shit
Dec 05 17:14:45 <jcpham>	oh and betting people bitcoins he doesn't have
Dec 05 17:14:49 <jcpham>	that too
Dec 05 17:14:50 <kakobrekla>	goat still comes around.
Dec 05 17:14:57 <kakobrekla>	:p
Dec 05 17:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think goat quite raises to the level
Dec 05 17:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	he's more in the usagi league.
Dec 05 17:15:21 <jcpham>	goat calls me names so he and i aren't associates
Dec 05 17:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	what'd he call you, Pam ?
Dec 05 17:15:40 <Namjies>	I feel like Bitcoin are being grossly misrepresented...
Dec 05 17:15:40 <jcpham>	opportunist troll
Dec 05 17:15:41 <jcpham>	iirc
Dec 05 17:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	that's an oxymoron
Dec 05 17:15:56 <jcpham>	which is very humorous
Dec 05 17:16:09 <noagendamarket>	bruce wagner still sells bitcoins to people....
Dec 05 17:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies by idiots like genjix running around yeah.
Dec 05 17:16:28 <dub>	Namjies: posta bout it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129337.0
Dec 05 17:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050645 = 2.1884 BTC [+]
Dec 05 17:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00050643 = 1.6712 BTC [-]
Dec 05 17:17:19 <Namjies>	How do they chose their panels for conferences? Take the guy shouting: "Me! Take me! I are largest expert Bitcoin!"
Dec 05 17:18:01 <noagendamarket>	someone should show up and ask questions about the various scams of intersango
Dec 05 17:18:26 <Namjies>	I could have done a presentation 100 times clearer and informational without even knowing the exact way Bitcoins work within the code. Just the general simplified concept.
Dec 05 17:18:39 <Namjies>	Anyone else could have done it.
Dec 05 17:18:45 <Namjies>	He googled something?
Dec 05 17:18:52 <kakobrekla>	if != crackhead
Dec 05 17:19:01 <Namjies>	Why didn't he have a presentation prepared?
Dec 05 17:19:15 <noagendamarket>	during the occupy protests the government sent in mental patients to make it look bad
Dec 05 17:19:40 <kakobrekla>	hm
Dec 05 17:19:45 <kakobrekla>	that only makes it look better
Dec 05 17:19:45 <noagendamarket>	if i was a banker i would find the most retarded bitcoiners around and put them in front of audiences
Dec 05 17:19:51 <smickles>	just to let the chan know, S²CM just got its shareholder infos
Dec 05 17:20:34 <noagendamarket>	how many shareholders were nefario ?
Dec 05 17:20:34 <kakobrekla>	schutzstaffel delivers.
Dec 05 17:20:44 <smickles>	noagendamarket: hard to say
Dec 05 17:21:14 <Namjies>	Oh right... Kraken had some units bought by Patrick himself.
Dec 05 17:21:26 <noagendamarket>	apparently
Dec 05 17:21:41 <Namjies>	So when he paid 50% back... I could now not pay him and have some more.
Dec 05 17:21:52 <Namjies>	For others.
Dec 05 17:21:54 <noagendamarket>	fuck that guy
Dec 05 17:22:24 <jcpham>	smickles is my new boyfriend!
Dec 05 17:22:32 *	jcpham rubs on smickles
Dec 05 17:22:47 <Namjies>	and I just got the Kraken list.
Dec 05 17:22:52 <jcpham>	nice
Dec 05 17:23:02 <jcpham>	guys maybe nefario isn't a fuckwit after all
Dec 05 17:23:09 <noagendamarket>	:X
Dec 05 17:23:14 <kakobrekla>	perhaps he was right
Dec 05 17:23:16 <kakobrekla>	>><genjix> nefario is legit.
Dec 05 17:23:46 <Namjies>	He is... looking at all what he did. But he tries to be at least honest even if he made huge mistakes...
Dec 05 17:24:24 <pigeons>	http://bankinnovation.net/2012/12/ashton-kutcher-for-banker-of-the-year/
Dec 05 17:24:34 <kakobrekla>	he acts like a chicked with its head chopped off, runs around for a comple of minutes w/o it
Dec 05 17:24:54 <kakobrekla>	chicken*
Dec 05 17:24:59 <noagendamarket>	hes a paranoid coward
Dec 05 17:25:02 <jcpham>	kutcher should've invested in coinbase
Dec 05 17:26:40 <jurov>	upvote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14cj3r/amir_taaki_aka_genjix_shows_how_not_to_promote/
Dec 05 17:26:42 <noagendamarket>	I wish I could "invest" in mila kunis
Dec 05 17:26:48 <kakobrekla>	smickles did you get the data for all shares?
Dec 05 17:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	<Namjies> How do they chose their panels for conferences? Take the guy shouting: "Me! Take me! I are largest expert Bitcoin!" << pretty much
Dec 05 17:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> schutzstaffel delivers. << ahahaha
Dec 05 17:28:47 <smickles>	kakobrekla: all shares appear to be accounted for (assuming trust for the data ofc)
Dec 05 17:29:06 <pigeons>	you guys should be nicer to genjix
Dec 05 17:30:06 <jurov>	yes poor genjix. they woke him up at 3am and forced him to do presentation quickly
Dec 05 17:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	let me find that nefario quote again
Dec 05 17:30:47 <pigeons>	and then handed him his backpack and kicked him right out
Dec 05 17:31:01 <jcpham>	ruthless
Dec 05 17:34:10 <Namjies>	It's a conspiracy from the banks, they paid him well to do that on purpose so Bitcoins would look bad! (Made with the support of How to Start Another Movement of Conspiracy Nuts in One Line for Dummies)
Dec 05 17:34:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00050924 = 1.5532 BTC [+]
Dec 05 17:34:28 <jcpham>	shit the banks can pay me and i'll make it look worse
Dec 05 17:35:04 <pigeons>	he just wasn't used to talking to that type of audience
Dec 05 17:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	Sep 16 01:13:21 <nefario>	I haven't even written my talk for tomorrow
Dec 05 17:35:35 <noagendamarket>	he shouldnt talk at all
Dec 05 17:36:59 <Namjies>	Bitcoin Conferencers: Mission Preparation Zero - In theaters January 4th.
Dec 05 17:37:13 <jurov>	"Whats wrong with this? The guy seems very genuine." reddit rules
Dec 05 17:38:31 <noagendamarket>	Its more cringeworthy than the time atlas called into the bitcoin show with bruce fagner
Dec 05 17:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00050708 = 1.6734 BTC [-]
Dec 05 17:39:11 <Namjies>	Actually, for people who thinks Bitcoins are for nutcases or are nutcases themselves, that guy will seem very genuine indeed.
Dec 05 17:39:38 <noagendamarket>	"dublinclontarf"  is that nefario ???
Dec 05 17:39:44 <Namjies>	and BTC-BOND
Dec 05 17:39:49 <Namjies>	I got the list for it too
Dec 05 17:40:05 <Namjies>	The world is starting to go round again.
Dec 05 17:41:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1271 @ 0.00050924 = 0.6472 BTC [+]
Dec 05 17:41:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14867 @ 0.00050932 = 7.5721 BTC [+]
Dec 05 17:42:18 <pigeons>	yes it is nefario
Dec 05 17:42:30 <kakobrekla>	not dog?
Dec 05 17:42:31 <Namjies>	Why is it all in yml? Couldn't he send a csv?
Dec 05 17:42:32 <pigeons>	https://github.com/dublinclontarf
Dec 05 17:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons so says mpoe-pr too
Dec 05 17:43:09 <pigeons>	http://stackoverflow.com/users/366845/dublinclontarf
Dec 05 17:43:31 <Namjies>	Now I have to do a search and replace to replace delimiters superflous data to commas.
Dec 05 17:43:42 <Namjies>	Then make that into a spreadsheet.
Dec 05 17:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 05 17:43:53 <mircea_popescu>	be happy your yml parses. iirc giga was saying his didn't.
Dec 05 17:45:26 <Namjies>	I use notepad++ to do the search and replace...
Dec 05 17:45:41 <Namjies>	then open office to open the list with the comma delimiters.
Dec 05 17:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2833 @ 0.00050932 = 1.4429 BTC [+]
Dec 05 17:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16567 @ 0.00051016 = 8.4518 BTC [+]
Dec 05 17:46:12 <mod6>	just use vim like :% s/x/y/g
Dec 05 17:46:13 <Namjies>	At worst if there's a bad line, you'll see it when doing the search and replace in notepad++
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Dec 05 17:46:48 <mod6>	where say, you want to replace colon with comma: s/:/,/g
Dec 05 17:46:52 <mod6>	globally
Dec 05 17:46:58 <mod6>	thats my vim tip of the day, tyvm
Dec 05 17:47:38 <mod6>	<3 vim
Dec 05 17:47:57 *	mod6 goes back to werk
Dec 05 17:48:45 <Namjies>	vim?
Dec 05 17:49:12 <Namjies>	bah. I'll keep notepad++
Dec 05 17:49:13 <mircea_popescu>	vi improved
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Dec 05 17:49:28 <Namjies>	I'll still keep notepad++
Dec 05 17:50:15 <mircea_popescu>	the power of bash is like bitcoin : before you learn how to use it you don't understand why you should
Dec 05 17:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	after you don't understand how you lived before.
Dec 05 17:51:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20454 @ 0.00051016 = 10.4348 BTC [+]
Dec 05 17:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5646 @ 0.00051092 = 2.8847 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 17:53:11 <Namjies>	Sounds like the usual speech about just EVERYTHING.
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Dec 05 17:54:22 <Namjies>	Religious people use the same speech. You don't understand why my god is so great until you know it and you won't understand how you lived without it before.
Dec 05 17:54:46 <Namjies>	"My thing is the greatest, you'd understand if you did like me."
Dec 05 17:55:20 <Namjies>	If I was you, I'd probably think like you indeed since I'd be you.
Dec 05 17:56:30 <mod6>	(14:50) < mircea_popescu> after you don't understand how you lived before.
Dec 05 17:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1154 @ 0.00051092 = 0.5896 BTC [+]
Dec 05 17:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18346 @ 0.00051249 = 9.4021 BTC [+]
Dec 05 17:56:59 <mod6>	^^^ this is correct though. once you learn how to use a terminal or a scripting language or bitcoin, you'll be like "how did i ever do anything before??"
Dec 05 17:57:08 <Namjies>	Summary: I don't find the statement convincing.
Dec 05 17:57:52 <mircea_popescu>	what can i say.
Dec 05 17:58:12 <Namjies>	mod6: I beg to differ. You can leech of others who could make it for you. Same result, less work.
Dec 05 17:59:40 <pigeons>	no but you never get what you want when you want it, you get what they made
Dec 05 18:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	^^^ good point.
Dec 05 18:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	you can either make your own money or marry some rich dude
Dec 05 18:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	they're not the same.
Dec 05 18:01:08 <Namjies>	Except it's a different kind of relationship with the marrying example.
Dec 05 18:01:08 <kakobrekla>	rich gal works too
Dec 05 18:01:21 <mod6>	lol Namjies, that was far from the point. some where between A & Z, someone has to actually do some shit.
Dec 05 18:01:31 <Namjies>	Indeed.
Dec 05 18:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	there's no different kinds of relationships
Dec 05 18:01:47 <mod6>	and when you find a new too that kicks ass, it makes you stunned that you'd ever gotten by without it.
Dec 05 18:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	all are the exact same kind.
Dec 05 18:02:05 <mod6>	s/too/tool
Dec 05 18:02:16 <mod6>	^^^ like that ;)
Dec 05 18:03:07 <noagendamarket>	http://securityledger.com/new-25-gpu-monster-devours-passwords-in-seconds/ daaamn
Dec 05 18:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	almosty good enough to mine.
Dec 05 18:03:52 <Namjies>	The marrying example, the woman kind of prostitues herself for the guy's money. For coding, the developer kind of prositutes work for money. And not the other way around. The guy hiring the dev is more like the rich guy, not the woman marrying it.
Dec 05 18:03:57 <mod6>	but to each their own, everyone has got a way. and i'd say further that when leaving the ways of the layman behind, you have to adopt more efficent tools to help you compete in the market place.
Dec 05 18:04:53 <noagendamarket>	steal your own wallet super efficiently
Dec 05 18:04:54 <Namjies>	Pay the other for something they have.
Dec 05 18:05:00 <jcpham>	noagendamarket in the comments at the bottom he admits to mining bitcoins
Dec 05 18:05:06 <noagendamarket>	lawl
Dec 05 18:06:06 <mod6>	For coding, the developer kind of prositutes work for money. << Is this not true with any service based industry - Time & Services for Capital?
Dec 05 18:06:08 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies money and sex, in a simplified consideration, are both valuable. there's not a rule that he who has the money is in charge.
Dec 05 18:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	in the other example, money or sex and skill are each valuable.
Dec 05 18:06:43 <mircea_popescu>	again, there's not a rule that he who pays is in charge.
Dec 05 18:06:58 <noagendamarket>	If you dont hav e money you wont get much sex :P
Dec 05 18:09:14 <jcpham>	depends
Dec 05 18:09:34 <dub>	rape is free
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Dec 05 18:10:20 <noagendamarket>	lol
Dec 05 18:10:31 <noagendamarket>	rohypnol is cheap
Dec 05 18:10:34 <kakobrekla>	pokeing continiues https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1380857;topicseen#msg1380857
Dec 05 18:11:11 <noagendamarket>	rape isnt usually about the sex
Dec 05 18:11:26 <noagendamarket>	its a power thing
Dec 05 18:11:39 <Namjies>	mircea, no, not necessarily.
Dec 05 18:12:05 <Namjies>	When you pay someone, the other might be in charge/making decision.
Dec 05 18:13:17 <Namjies>	I suppose the situation can be interpreted both ways as such.
Dec 05 18:16:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00051141 = 4.3726 BTC [-]
Dec 05 18:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051235 = 2.2139 BTC [+]
Dec 05 18:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7404 @ 0.00051249 = 3.7945 BTC [+]
Dec 05 18:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8181 @ 0.00051628 = 4.2237 BTC [+]
Dec 05 18:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2844 @ 0.00051734 = 1.4713 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 18:17:30 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla cock is usually hard to swallow, especially if it's one's first time and the thing is as thick as mine.
Dec 05 18:18:18 <dub>	I need to uniognore inaba to see that :(
Dec 05 18:19:24 <dub>	aaand it wasnt worth it
Dec 05 18:19:33 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, seems caldwell and the girl are going at it.
Dec 05 18:19:36 <mircea_popescu>	this promises.
Dec 05 18:21:36 <kakobrekla>	>In fairness, I can't spell your name either, Mr. P can't, your name is just too much to spell.
Dec 05 18:21:38 <kakobrekla>	LOL
Dec 05 18:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 05 18:23:02 <noagendamarket>	When I promote bitcoin I always wear a homeless jacket
Dec 05 18:23:22 <noagendamarket>	and ensure I havent washed for 2 months
Dec 05 18:23:31 <mircea_popescu>	we gotta thank pigeons tho
Dec 05 18:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	i wasn't expecting that today's portion of drama would come out of that obscure youtube
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Dec 05 18:24:02 <kakobrekla>	its a good course as well.
Dec 05 18:24:47 <noagendamarket>	Im just surprised genjix hasnt applied for a bitcoin foundation  grant yet
Dec 05 18:25:10 <noagendamarket>	for a public speaking tour lol
Dec 05 18:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	how you know h hasn't ?
Dec 05 18:26:06 <noagendamarket>	trollfest 2013
Dec 05 18:29:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00051571 = 9.6953 BTC [-]
Dec 05 18:32:32 <dub>	proudhon's avatar RULES https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=9220;type=avatar
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Dec 05 18:32:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1835 @ 0.00051571 = 0.9463 BTC [-]
Dec 05 18:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3363 @ 0.00050708 = 1.7053 BTC [-]
Dec 05 18:33:00 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 05 18:35:02 <noagendamarket>	I wonder why the cia hasnt setup a hamas donation fund for bitcoins yet
Dec 05 18:35:14 <noagendamarket>	just as a honeypot lol
Dec 05 18:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	i would send a bitcoin.
Dec 05 18:35:39 <noagendamarket>	then they can make a song and dance about bitcoin funding terrorism in the senate
Dec 05 18:36:12 <noagendamarket>	jgarzik would have a heart attack
Dec 05 18:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	he'll get over it.
Dec 05 18:36:46 <noagendamarket>	I mean techinically theres nothing stopping anyone doing that
Dec 05 18:36:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12956 @ 0.00051734 = 6.7027 BTC [+]
Dec 05 18:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00051758 = 1.1143 BTC [+]
Dec 05 18:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34291 @ 0.00051769 = 17.7521 BTC [+]
Dec 05 18:36:51 <noagendamarket>	even as a troll
Dec 05 18:37:50 <noagendamarket>	Im not saying you should do it lol
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Dec 05 18:38:53 <noagendamarket>	http://www.screwitletsgo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Rage-Face.jpg
Dec 05 18:39:01 <dub>	why bother when Pirate and Amir are doing the job for them
Dec 05 18:39:28 <noagendamarket>	may as well finish it off with a right hook to the jaw
Dec 05 18:40:01 <noagendamarket>	they kinda failed swith silk road
Dec 05 18:40:15 <dub>	I assume the CIA are either content to let us marginalise ourselves for the moment, or using bitcoin themselves on a scale that warrants leaving it alone
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Dec 05 18:41:14 <dub>	someone: you know bitcoin could be used to fund terrorism
Dec 05 18:41:21 <dub>	cia: really? sweet!
Dec 05 18:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	dub heh
Dec 05 18:41:32 <noagendamarket>	lol
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Dec 05 18:41:50 <noagendamarket>	they need to pay osama somehow...
Dec 05 18:42:13 <noagendamarket>	after all he demolished a couple of buildings for them
Dec 05 18:42:29 <kakobrekla>	coins at 1osama havent been moved in long time
Dec 05 18:42:46 <noagendamarket>	they are hiding in 1cave
Dec 05 18:44:02 <noagendamarket>	george bush's bitcoin  address is 1insidejob
Dec 05 18:44:11 <mod6>	haha
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Dec 05 18:51:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7059 @ 0.00051769 = 3.6544 BTC [+]
Dec 05 18:51:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10841 @ 0.00051825 = 5.6183 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 18:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6259 @ 0.00051825 = 3.2437 BTC [+]
Dec 05 18:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8141 @ 0.00051892 = 4.2245 BTC [+]
Dec 05 18:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	and clinton's is 1outsidejob ?
Dec 05 18:55:07 <dub>	1cigar
Dec 05 18:55:23 <noagendamarket>	1dress
Dec 05 18:55:41 <kakobrekla>	1inchlarger
Dec 05 18:55:44 <kakobrekla>	send now
Dec 05 18:55:53 <noagendamarket>	lol
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Dec 05 19:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00051892 = 0.8822 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 19:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1001 @ 0.00328057 = 3.2839 BTC [+]
Dec 05 19:08:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 99 @ 0.00328056 = 0.3248 BTC [-]
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Dec 05 19:14:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00051892 = 10.6898 BTC [+]
Dec 05 19:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah this entire caldwell whining that the transcriber didn't censor the ums is really hysterical
Dec 05 19:16:58 <dub>	haha nefario deleted his comment
Dec 05 19:17:09 <dub>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14cj3r/amir_taaki_aka_genjix_shows_how_not_to_promote/
Dec 05 19:17:10 <kakobrekla>	uhh?
Dec 05 19:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol maybe he takes it seriously and never mentions bitcoin again.
Dec 05 19:20:23 <noagendamarket>	what has been seen cant be unseen
Dec 05 19:21:44 <noagendamarket>	I think james will need to change his name by deed poll if he ever want5s to open another business
Dec 05 19:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	can he ?
Dec 05 19:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	i mean it'd be technically fraud, you can only change your name by poll if you're not doing it to escape debts etc
Dec 05 19:22:39 <noagendamarket>	yes
Dec 05 19:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	iirc it's criminalized
Dec 05 19:23:02 <noagendamarket>	hes not facing charges that we know of
Dec 05 19:23:24 <noagendamarket>	unless hes got an a ctual lawsuit hes free to do anything
Dec 05 19:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	ofcourse he's free to do anything.
Dec 05 19:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	but in the event of an ulterior lawsuit if it turns out he changed his name it may spell additional trouble.
Dec 05 19:24:25 <Namjies>	If anyone held BTC-MINING/BTC-BOND/KRAKEN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129362.0
Dec 05 19:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00051892 = 2.5687 BTC [+]
Dec 05 19:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00051892 = 15.9827 BTC [+]
Dec 05 19:33:19 <noagendamarket>	why would anyone sue him if he has sent back most of the asset info and btc ?
Dec 05 19:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00051892 = 2.3092 BTC [+]
Dec 05 19:34:22 <noagendamarket>	unless they have thousands of dollars to waste for no reason
Dec 05 19:35:03 <pigeons>	is he up to "most" yet?
Dec 05 19:35:32 <pigeons>	maybe with today/yesterday's lists,certainly not before
Dec 05 19:35:51 <Namjies>	Not before. With today's, He might be getting close.
Dec 05 19:36:10 <Namjies>	and claims from before I received lists seems to match.
Dec 05 19:36:48 <Namjies>	From old users which pre-date GLBSE's closure to top it.
Dec 05 19:37:16 <Namjies>	Unless they're all conspirating together the lists are probably accurate.
Dec 05 19:39:48 <noagendamarket>	I dont think hes scamming in the same way patrick harnett is scamming over kraken
Dec 05 19:40:48 <pigeons>	noagendamarket = stockholm syndrome
Dec 05 19:40:53 <Namjies>	I don't think so either. Seems like he chickened out and is error prone, but otherwise honest. Still, it's a mess.
Dec 05 19:41:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6209 @ 0.00051892 = 3.222 BTC [+]
Dec 05 19:41:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9527 @ 0.00051965 = 4.9507 BTC [+]
Dec 05 19:41:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2964 @ 0.00052028 = 1.5421 BTC [+]
Dec 05 19:41:37 <noagendamarket>	yes its a mess alright
Dec 05 19:41:47 <Ukto>	Namjies
Dec 05 19:41:53 <Namjies>	Aye?
Dec 05 19:41:56 <Ukto>	what is your plans for things at this point?
Dec 05 19:42:02 <Ukto>	thought any more on it?
Dec 05 19:42:12 <noagendamarket>	pigeons I think he lacks the balls to be a scammer :D
Dec 05 19:42:19 <Namjies>	Paying people back and closing things, probably.
Dec 05 19:42:35 <Ukto>	sucks
Dec 05 19:42:55 <Namjies>	Well... maybe. Kind of.
Dec 05 19:43:43 <Namjies>	Might still operate BTC-BOND tho.
Dec 05 19:44:10 <noagendamarket>	btc-bond wasnt too bad
Dec 05 19:44:22 <noagendamarket>	mining stocks suck ass lol
Dec 05 19:44:41 <Namjies>	What? Not that much.
Dec 05 19:44:51 <pigeons>	well while difficulty is going up perhaps
Dec 05 19:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00051495 = 2.0341 BTC [-]
Dec 05 19:45:08 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i don't even want to see the wave of mining bond failures if diff went down 80%
Dec 05 19:45:18 <pigeons>	:)
Dec 05 19:45:30 <noagendamarket>	ouch
Dec 05 19:47:12 <noagendamarket>	not likely to happen though
Dec 05 19:47:22 <Ukto>	Namjies: would you consider BF if you decide to keep btc-bond?
Dec 05 19:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	that's exactly how systemic defaults happen
Dec 05 19:47:43 <Namjies>	What's BF?
Dec 05 19:47:48 <Ukto>	bitfunder
Dec 05 19:47:50 <Ukto>	my glbse replacement
Dec 05 19:47:58 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: BF went live a bit ago
Dec 05 19:48:05 <Ukto>	has 1 asset setting up to sell atm heh
Dec 05 19:48:08 <Namjies>	Ah, probably not.
Dec 05 19:48:17 <Ukto>	not the graetest asset, but its better than starting with 0
Dec 05 19:48:18 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 05 19:49:19 <Ukto>	Namjies: alright. just wanted to toss it out. :)
Dec 05 19:49:32 <Namjies>	If I had to use a platform, I'd probably use the Belize based LitecoinGlobal/BTCT.co
Dec 05 19:49:34 <Ukto>	if you get curious you can always play on sandbox.bitfunder.com
Dec 05 19:50:12 <noagendamarket>	"We (BitFunder) do not accept responsibility for anything.
Dec 05 19:50:12 <noagendamarket>	WARNING: Use at your own risk.
Dec 05 19:50:12 <noagendamarket>	You must agree to 1 and 2."
Dec 05 19:50:24 <noagendamarket>	surely you jest
Dec 05 19:50:52 <Ukto>	noagendamarket: do you think any of the other agreements are any better?
Dec 05 19:50:54 <Ukto>	look at glbse
Dec 05 19:50:57 <Ukto>	how well that worked out
Dec 05 19:51:04 <Ukto>	its more of alie
Dec 05 19:51:06 <Ukto>	a lie
Dec 05 19:51:08 <Ukto>	than anything
Dec 05 19:51:29 <noagendamarket>	it doesnt tell me who or what is behind the "company"
Dec 05 19:51:51 <Namjies>	I'm mostly concerned about either having a system with easy proof of ownership or at least regular backups of holders data.
Dec 05 19:52:16 <Ukto>	Namjies: my system uses btc addresses to publically list holders data live
Dec 05 19:52:20 <Namjies>	colored coins would be the best option as far as I'm concerned.
Dec 05 19:52:32 <Ukto>	which makes it easy for ppl to migrate to
Dec 05 19:52:35 <Ukto>	yeah to colored if they wanted
Dec 05 19:52:36 <Ukto>	later
Dec 05 19:52:44 <Ukto>	just disable trading on teh asset, and move
Dec 05 19:52:47 *	Ukto isnt nefario
Dec 05 19:52:47 <noagendamarket>	decentralized exchanges are far worse than glbse disasters
Dec 05 19:52:52 <Ukto>	I wont bust you for leaving
Dec 05 19:53:05 <Namjies>	ownership deeds on the blockchain tools are not really developed yet tho
Dec 05 19:53:44 <noagendamarket>	its hard to beat placing a lien on someones actual property if they fail to pay
Dec 05 19:53:44 <Namjies>	why? Because anyone can do anything on decentralized?
Dec 05 19:53:59 <noagendamarket>	yes
Dec 05 19:54:41 <Namjies>	I hardly see the difference... anyone could do almost anything on GLBSE.
Dec 05 19:54:48 <noagendamarket>	truth
Dec 05 19:55:11 <noagendamarket>	look at bitdaytrade for example
Dec 05 19:55:14 <Namjies>	The difference is that decentralized, data is not lost and public yet anonymous as much as the user wishes to be.
Dec 05 19:55:27 <noagendamarket>	he had the guys passport and full identity lol
Dec 05 19:55:38 <Namjies>	User still has to investigate anything before purchasing.
Dec 05 19:55:54 <noagendamarket>	agreed
Dec 05 19:56:11 <noagendamarket>	actually it might make people be more careful without seat belts
Dec 05 19:56:41 <noagendamarket>	btcjam has 50% default rate and they use credit checks....
Dec 05 19:57:09 <Namjies>	Technically, even a regulated market could be issued on decentralized and have their official app tracking official deeds and for trading.
Dec 05 19:57:19 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.technologyreview.com/news/508061/custom-chips-could-be-the-shovels-in-a-bitcoin-gold-rush/
Dec 05 19:57:20 <Diablo-D3>	LOL
Dec 05 19:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	btcjam uses credit checks ?! i doubt it.
Dec 05 19:57:38 <Diablo-D3>	someone needs to tell these guys bfl is most likely a scam
Dec 05 19:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	for one, they cost money. for the other, pfff. who's btcjam
Dec 05 19:57:56 <Namjies>	Assuming any government would allow such smoother regulations where they regulate only who can get issued into their official market without regulating trades.
Dec 05 19:58:03 <noagendamarket>	its basically glbse 3.0  lol
Dec 05 19:58:13 <Diablo-D3>	noagendamarket: thats... not a good thing
Dec 05 19:58:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00051495 = 8.4452 BTC [-]
Dec 05 19:58:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00051094 = 1.2774 BTC [-]
Dec 05 19:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00051079 = 6.8446 BTC [-]
Dec 05 19:58:21 <noagendamarket>	youre telling me
Dec 05 19:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.0005074 = 2.5877 BTC [-]
Dec 05 19:58:25 <mircea_popescu>	i know. what i'm saying is, you don't just call 911 and get a credit check result.
Dec 05 19:58:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: they could be paying for it
Dec 05 19:58:43 <Diablo-D3>	...
Dec 05 19:58:46 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Dec 05 19:58:50 <Diablo-D3>	why the fuck are they checking people's _credit_
Dec 05 19:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	because reasons.
Dec 05 19:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	and mathematics.
Dec 05 19:59:10 <Diablo-D3>	my credit is not exactly 800 points here, doesnt mean Im not a legitimate investor here
Dec 05 19:59:48 <Namjies>	Well credit ratings include those "stains" on your loaning habits.
Dec 05 20:00:09 <noagendamarket>	patrick harnett had credit ratings :D
Dec 05 20:00:13 <Namjies>	If the rating is good, not necessarily 800 points, they can attribute more points for credit rating I suppose.
Dec 05 20:00:16 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: yes, but wouldnt a lower score make you bitcoin friedly?
Dec 05 20:00:52 <Diablo-D3>	plus, in the US (in every state but 2), stuff like credit cards are unsecured debt
Dec 05 20:00:57 <noagendamarket>	credit score doesnt say anything about your ability to repay only that you have not paid before
Dec 05 20:01:03 <Diablo-D3>	so its not even real money
Dec 05 20:01:11 <Diablo-D3>	noagendamarket: yeah, exactly
Dec 05 20:01:14 <Diablo-D3>	so its pointless
Dec 05 20:01:26 <Diablo-D3>	I think btcjam is running a scam
Dec 05 20:01:41 <noagendamarket>	it doesnt say you are an inveterate gambler for instance :P
Dec 05 20:02:08 <Diablo-D3>	noagendamarket: exactly
Dec 05 20:02:09 <Diablo-D3>	well
Dec 05 20:02:10 <Namjies>	Good score says you pay on time and don't overloan. It's a statistical indicator about if the loaner is more or less likely to pay back on time.
Dec 05 20:02:13 <noagendamarket>	btcjam and glbse are closer to gambling
Dec 05 20:02:18 <Namjies>	Not an absolute.
Dec 05 20:02:22 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: not really
Dec 05 20:02:32 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, look at what banks have been doing
Dec 05 20:02:40 <Diablo-D3>	they've been intentionally forclosing on people's houses illegally
Dec 05 20:02:55 <noagendamarket>	thats what they do
Dec 05 20:03:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13408 @ 0.00052028 = 6.9759 BTC [+]
Dec 05 20:03:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1592 @ 0.00052075 = 0.829 BTC [+]
Dec 05 20:03:03 <Diablo-D3>	even when the people have not missed a payment, a few months later a sherif shows up to throw them out
Dec 05 20:03:13 <Diablo-D3>	which is 100% illegal in at least 4 ways
Dec 05 20:03:22 <Namjies>	Barring falsifications...
Dec 05 20:03:28 <Namjies>	or other such acts.
Dec 05 20:03:32 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: barring? fuck, banks dont exist then
Dec 05 20:03:37 <Diablo-D3>	they retroactively were never invented
Dec 05 20:03:51 <Diablo-D3>	credit scores are worthless shit now
Dec 05 20:03:53 <noagendamarket>	if a bank started offering bitcoin loans I wonder what the default rate would be
Dec 05 20:04:04 <Namjies>	200%
Dec 05 20:04:09 <noagendamarket>	lawl
Dec 05 20:04:19 <Diablo-D3>	noagendamarket: hrm
Dec 05 20:05:13 <Namjies>	The loaners would default and the employees would defraud... I mean default the bank further
Dec 05 20:05:23 <Diablo-D3>	what we need is our own legal CRA
Dec 05 20:05:23 <noagendamarket>	even payday lenders have better default rates than bitcoin loans lol
Dec 05 20:05:43 <Diablo-D3>	and Im pretty sure anyone can run one as long as they comply with the FCRA, FACTA, and FCBA
Dec 05 20:05:52 <Diablo-D3>	and all the appropriate consumer information protection laws
Dec 05 20:06:04 <Diablo-D3>	(which is fucking easy, believe it or not)
Dec 05 20:06:12 <Diablo-D3>	like, all those companies that go LOL WE LOST CUSTOMER DETAILS
Dec 05 20:06:13 <Diablo-D3>	_how_
Dec 05 20:06:22 <Diablo-D3>	operating systems have everything you'll ever need for this built in
Dec 05 20:06:26 <noagendamarket>	they stole their own wallets
Dec 05 20:06:34 <Diablo-D3>	hell, hire a child pornographer or a terrorist, they already know how to do this
Dec 05 20:06:37 <noagendamarket>	cant account for that
Dec 05 20:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1007 @ 0.00328056 = 3.3035 BTC [-]
Dec 05 20:06:49 <Diablo-D3>	step one: ENCRYPT EVERYTHING \o/
Dec 05 20:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00326684 = 1.3067 BTC [-]
Dec 05 20:07:12 <noagendamarket>	but then some retard puts the encryption password in the sites code lol
Dec 05 20:07:29 <Diablo-D3>	noagendamarket: no
Dec 05 20:07:34 <Diablo-D3>	you encrypt the disk and network io
Dec 05 20:08:08 <Diablo-D3>	hell, you can buy raid controllers that use random keys
Dec 05 20:08:21 <Diablo-D3>	even if you steal the drives out of the rack, it does you nothing, no one knows the key
Dec 05 20:10:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050767 = 2.1936 BTC [-]
Dec 05 20:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0005074 = 4.9725 BTC [-]
Dec 05 20:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00050731 = 6.2399 BTC [-]
Dec 05 20:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29 @ 0.00050725 = 0.0147 BTC [-]
Dec 05 20:11:51 <Diablo-D3>	also, did I mention, nefario has sent me an asset list for dmc
Dec 05 20:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	"Joseph John Aiuppa (pronounced, "I-U-PA") (December 1, 1907 – February 22, 1997), also known as "Doves," "Mourning Doves," "O'Brien," or "Joey Doves," was a Chicago mobster who became a leader of the Chicago Outfit."
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Dec 05 20:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	in case anyone wondered about pigeons.
Dec 05 20:12:24 *	rdponticelli (~rdpontice@gateway/tor-sasl/rdponticelli) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 05 20:12:41 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I want to say pigeons is from good fellas
Dec 05 20:12:42 <pigeons>	slander!
Dec 05 20:12:46 <dub>	what is the bitcoind synatax to list addresses by account?
Dec 05 20:13:05 <Diablo-D3>	dub: listtransactions 'name' 99999999999
Dec 05 20:13:36 <noagendamarket>	the mafia needs to get into bitcoin loans. that might improve the default rate
Dec 05 20:13:44 <dub>	no
Dec 05 20:14:03 <Diablo-D3>	dub: oh, you want every address used by an accont?
Dec 05 20:14:06 <dub>	pretty sure its listreceivedbyaccount "name" but it doesnt work
Dec 05 20:14:08 <Diablo-D3>	I dont think you can
Dec 05 20:14:17 <Diablo-D3>	dub: btw, you CAN do bitcoind help
Dec 05 20:14:24 <dub>	yeah it doesnt help
Dec 05 20:14:24 <Diablo-D3>	sends help as a json command
Dec 05 20:14:33 <Diablo-D3>	you can do help legitimatecommand too
Dec 05 20:14:54 <Diablo-D3>	dub: it may not know that info
Dec 05 20:15:09 <dub>	it shows (incorrect) command syntax only, no help
Dec 05 20:15:32 <Diablo-D3>	bring it up with sipa and gmaxwell then
Dec 05 20:15:38 <Diablo-D3>	in #bitcoin-dev
Dec 05 20:15:42 <Diablo-D3>	okay so
Dec 05 20:15:45 <Diablo-D3>	Im looking at this asset list
Dec 05 20:15:47 <Diablo-D3>	that nefario sent me
Dec 05 20:15:53 <Diablo-D3>	is he gay?
Dec 05 20:16:01 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, is he a card carrying homosexual?
Dec 05 20:16:04 <Diablo-D3>	does he suck dicks for a living
Dec 05 20:16:57 <Diablo-D3>	woah
Dec 05 20:17:01 <Diablo-D3>	da2ce7_d: hey you
Dec 05 20:17:09 <Diablo-D3>	how many dmc shares did you own at the end
Dec 05 20:17:22 <da2ce7_d>	oh... quite a few
Dec 05 20:17:28 <da2ce7_d>	I cannot remeber exacaly.
Dec 05 20:17:31 <Diablo-D3>	like 1774?
Dec 05 20:17:40 <dub>	i did this yesterday
Dec 05 20:17:46 <da2ce7_d>	hmm... maybe around at.
Dec 05 20:17:51 <Diablo-D3>	this list cant be complete
Dec 05 20:17:58 <Diablo-D3>	also, WHAT THE FUCK FORMATTING IS THIS
Dec 05 20:17:59 <da2ce7_d>	did you get neafro's account balances?
Dec 05 20:18:03 <Diablo-D3>	email@address;
Dec 05 20:18:15 <Diablo-D3>	<tab>:payment_address; 1dongs;
Dec 05 20:18:22 <Diablo-D3>	<tab>:shares; over 9000;
Dec 05 20:18:26 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, fuck you nefario
Dec 05 20:18:35 <Diablo-D3>	of all the 9000 ways of acceptably doing this
Dec 05 20:18:37 <Diablo-D3>	why that
Dec 05 20:19:23 <da2ce7_d>	nothing a bit of perl cannot solve.
Dec 05 20:19:44 *	da2ce7_d wonders why he didn't use normal xml.
Dec 05 20:20:01 <Diablo-D3>	or json or csv
Dec 05 20:20:05 <pigeons>	he "normal" xml
Dec 05 20:20:19 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: given any xml format, I can load it in perl
Dec 05 20:20:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00051098 = 3.5258 BTC [+]
Dec 05 20:20:34 <Diablo-D3>	there is at least 3 modules that just load it as hashes
Dec 05 20:20:57 <dub>	oh, its stupidly getaddressesbyaccount
Dec 05 20:21:10 <noagendamarket>	http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-05/dark-internet-linked-to-drug-seiz  I dont know why people just dont use local drug dealers rather than import it :D
Dec 05 20:21:28 <dub>	because you know, having list and get prefixed commands randomly achieve list and create functionality is rad
Dec 05 20:22:14 <Diablo-D3>	noagendamarket: I dunno, I prefer Amazon for lots of things
Dec 05 20:22:36 *	Diablo-D3 goes back to snorting crushed up vitamins
Dec 05 20:22:54 *	Diablo-D3 counts the >1000s in this list to check for accuracy
Dec 05 20:23:20 <Diablo-D3>	1557, 1858, 1310, 1774
Dec 05 20:23:36 <Diablo-D3>	6599
Dec 05 20:23:42 <Diablo-D3>	the list could be legitimate
Dec 05 20:23:55 <noagendamarket>	I wonder if nefario added extra commas for people he doesnt like
Dec 05 20:24:48 <Diablo-D3>	THERES COMMAS IN THIS?!
Dec 05 20:25:00 <noagendamarket>	:o
Dec 05 20:25:15 <Diablo-D3>	FUCK NEFARIO
Dec 05 20:25:29 <Diablo-D3>	IN THE HEAD
Dec 05 20:25:33 <Diablo-D3>	WITH THE WRENCH
Dec 05 20:25:37 <Diablo-D3>	IN THE LIBRARY
Dec 05 20:25:47 <Namjies>	Diablo-D3, copy-paste the superfluous data in search & replace. Replace by comma
Dec 05 20:25:47 <Diablo-D3>	SO HE CAN GET A CLUE
Dec 05 20:26:00 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: no
Dec 05 20:26:02 <Namjies>	it will become a nice email,address,amount csv!
Dec 05 20:26:04 <Diablo-D3>	need to eat the \ns too
Dec 05 20:26:20 <Diablo-D3>	so what I need I think is \n\t,
Dec 05 20:26:23 <Diablo-D3>	er
Dec 05 20:26:33 <Namjies>	In Notepad++ you can copy/paste linebreaks/tabs/etc
Dec 05 20:26:36 <Diablo-D3>	s/\n\t:/,/
Dec 05 20:26:38 <Namjies>	It works.
Dec 05 20:26:42 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: dude
Dec 05 20:26:43 <Diablo-D3>	Im in fucking vim
Dec 05 20:26:52 <Diablo-D3>	vim has been able to do regex since before you were born
Dec 05 20:27:29 <Namjies>	Well solve it with vim then
Dec 05 20:27:37 <Diablo-D3>	I already just did
Dec 05 20:27:51 <Diablo-D3>	LOL those arent even fucking tabs
Dec 05 20:27:58 <Diablo-D3>	its two spaces
Dec 05 20:28:20 <Namjies>	Well what's the issue? It's the worst formating ever... and? You solve that in a few seconds...
Dec 05 20:28:27 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: you got that yaml thing too?
Dec 05 20:28:32 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: yeah
Dec 05 20:28:35 <smickles>	yaml requires spaces in place of tabs
Dec 05 20:28:36 <Diablo-D3>	what the fuck is this shit its lol
Dec 05 20:28:48 <Namjies>	It's yaml!
Dec 05 20:28:52 <smickles>	yup
Dec 05 20:28:58 <Diablo-D3>	Ive never heard of yaml
Dec 05 20:29:02 <Diablo-D3>	why the fuck do we have yaml
Dec 05 20:29:14 <smickles>	i knew of it from bukkit
Dec 05 20:29:28 <Namjies>	YAML = YAML Ain't Markup Language
Dec 05 20:29:51 <smickles>	a lot of plugins for bukkit used it for permissions files and such
Dec 05 20:29:57 <Namjies>	The perfect method to have human readable lists with superflous spaces and stuff!
Dec 05 20:30:19 <Namjies>	Because humans can't open a csv in an appropriate program for readability...
Dec 05 20:30:21 <Diablo-D3>	<nefario> super gay powers unite, Ill form the head. No, the other head.
Dec 05 20:30:55 <noagendamarket>	at least youre not goat
Dec 05 20:31:03 <Namjies>	Poor goat...
Dec 05 20:31:15 <Diablo-D3>	what happened to goat this time?
Dec 05 20:31:21 <pigeons>	humans can't open a csv in a spreadsheet program?
Dec 05 20:31:31 <pigeons>	oh sarcasm
Dec 05 20:31:33 <pigeons>	sorry!
Dec 05 20:35:02 <Diablo-D3>	well, if this is yaml, perl has a plugin for it
Dec 05 20:35:38 <smickles>	ya know what's awesome,
Dec 05 20:35:59 <Diablo-D3>	er, module.
Dec 05 20:36:09 <smickles>	nefario gave me a bunch of info w/o any privacy requirements attached
Dec 05 20:36:26 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: me as well
Dec 05 20:36:38 <Diablo-D3>	so I could just post the entire yaml to the intertubes and then nefario gets sued
Dec 05 20:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00051098 = 2.9637 BTC [+]
Dec 05 20:38:05 <smickles>	I want to go on record that I would sell this data for 1000000 BTC
Dec 05 20:38:13 <smickles>	;)
Dec 05 20:38:28 <dub>	I bid 0.051btc
Dec 05 20:38:46 <smickles>	going once...
Dec 05 20:39:17 <smickles>	lol, what an aweful joke
Dec 05 20:39:43 <Ukto>	eh?
Dec 05 20:39:46 <Ukto>	nefario send out more list?
Dec 05 20:39:54 <Ukto>	sent*
Dec 05 20:39:54 <smickles>	a couple, at least
Dec 05 20:40:07 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: yeah, i wrote a custom yaml importor
Dec 05 20:40:13 <Ukto>	his crap annoyed me
Dec 05 20:40:31 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: erm, but it takes three regex
Dec 05 20:40:36 <smickles>	anyway, the data is potentially out there anyway, i mean, he sent the data w/o encryption
Dec 05 20:40:36 <Diablo-D3>	or one if you feel like getting clever
Dec 05 20:40:45 <Ukto>	not the ones I was given to test with
Dec 05 20:40:58 <Diablo-D3>	in vim, %s/\n /,/g
Dec 05 20:41:08 <Diablo-D3>	%s/:payment_address//g
Dec 05 20:41:15 <Diablo-D3>	%s/:shares//g
Dec 05 20:41:33 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 05 20:41:42 <Ukto>	i was not writing in vim
Dec 05 20:41:51 <Diablo-D3>	you can do that in perl as well
Dec 05 20:41:52 <Ukto>	I made an autoamted system for other ppl to upload the yaml file into my system
Dec 05 20:42:13 <Diablo-D3>	and in perl, you can just use the yaml module anyhow
Dec 05 20:42:16 <Ukto>	well, i made the importor based on yaml standards, not know what crap nefario might do
Dec 05 20:42:24 <Ukto>	and I hadnt seen how simple the file data was at the time yet
Dec 05 20:42:28 <Ukto>	until after i made it
Dec 05 20:42:49 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, yaml advertises itself to be fucking simple
Dec 05 20:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051139 = 2.2097 BTC [+]
Dec 05 20:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20779 @ 0.00051157 = 10.6299 BTC [+]
Dec 05 20:43:38 <Ukto>	i only spent what.. 30 min? to make the importer :P
Dec 05 20:43:45 <Ukto>	but then the claim management system
Dec 05 20:43:48 <Ukto>	i spent a few hours on it
Dec 05 20:43:55 <Ukto>	wanna spend a few more to add some extra niftyness
Dec 05 20:44:00 <Diablo-D3>	actually, I wonder if perl ships with the yaml module now
Dec 05 20:44:18 <Diablo-D3>	nope but
Dec 05 20:44:27 <Diablo-D3>	ii  libyaml-perl                          0.84-1                                  all          YAML Ain't Markup Language
Dec 05 20:44:28 <Diablo-D3>	ii  libyaml-syck-perl                     1.21-1                                  amd64        Perl module providing a fast, lightweight YAML loader and dumper
Dec 05 20:44:28 <Diablo-D3>	ii  libyaml-tiny-perl                     1.51-1                                  all          Perl module for reading and writing YAML files
Dec 05 20:44:31 <Diablo-D3>	they're packaged in debian :D
Dec 05 20:44:41 <Diablo-D3>	and for some reason, I already have them installed
Dec 05 20:44:44 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder what Im using that uses it
Dec 05 20:44:55 <Ukto>	did he post anywhere who all got lists?
Dec 05 20:45:01 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: no
Dec 05 20:45:11 <Diablo-D3>	Im tempted to just say I never got mine just to cause trouble
Dec 05 20:45:18 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 05 20:45:21 <Diablo-D3>	I should pay him back for all the trouble hes caused me
Dec 05 20:45:33 <Diablo-D3>	and my investors too
Dec 05 20:45:51 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if I should like just show up at his house with everybody and just gangrape him
Dec 05 20:45:59 <pigeons>	have fun
Dec 05 20:46:05 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, Im not gay, and most of my investors arent gay, but theres nothing like a hatefuck.
Dec 05 20:46:20 <kakobrekla>	reality check pls
Dec 05 20:46:32 <Diablo-D3>	okay SOME of my investors arent gay
Dec 05 20:48:11 <dub>	so this is quote lulzy
Dec 05 20:48:51 *	Gladamas_ is now known as Gladamas
Dec 05 20:48:52 <dub>	nefario posts on reddit in support of Amir using socky
Dec 05 20:49:01 <kakobrekla>	url
Dec 05 20:49:19 <dub>	suggestion is made that he get back to fixing his fuckup
Dec 05 20:49:19 <kakobrekla>	why dont you people learn to paste it
Dec 05 20:49:22 <dub>	???
Dec 05 20:49:25 <pigeons>	its been pasted
Dec 05 20:49:28 <dub>	a bunch of asset lists get sent
Dec 05 20:49:32 <pigeons>	didnt he delete his comment?
Dec 05 20:49:55 <dub>	yes
Dec 05 20:50:01 <dub>	kakobrekla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14cj3r/amir_taaki_aka_genjix_shows_how_not_to_promote/
Dec 05 20:50:05 <pigeons>	it was "this guy [taaki] doesn't seem bad, he seems real enthusiastic, why don't you like him, he's just nervous"
Dec 05 20:50:08 <kakobrekla>	thank you
Dec 05 20:50:59 <pigeons>	when we mentioned in this channel that dublinclontarf is nefario, he deleted it
Dec 05 20:51:32 <pigeons>	hi nefario
Dec 05 20:51:54 <dub>	it was after the comment directed at him to be fair
Dec 05 20:53:01 <pigeons>	ah
Dec 05 20:53:08 <pigeons>	why you gotta be fair?
Dec 05 20:53:47 <pigeons>	i still want mircea_popescu to watch the video
Dec 05 20:55:20 <kakobrekla>	didnt he?
Dec 05 20:55:48 <pigeons>	nope
Dec 05 20:56:05 <pigeons>	he's afraid of aids
Dec 05 20:56:38 <pigeons>	he had "the girl" transacribe it
Dec 05 20:57:01 <kakobrekla>	hehehe
Dec 05 20:57:07 <kakobrekla>	wicked.
Dec 05 20:58:15 <kakobrekla>	bitdaytrade>>You should be really stopping trashing my name,
Dec 05 20:58:17 <kakobrekla>	jeez
Dec 05 20:58:23 <kakobrekla>	this guys still has balls to login.
Dec 05 20:58:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051103 = 2.2082 BTC [-]
Dec 05 20:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16988 @ 0.00051098 = 8.6805 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:02:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20691 @ 0.0005106 = 10.5648 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6511 @ 0.00051157 = 3.3308 BTC [+]
Dec 05 21:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 898 @ 0.00052075 = 0.4676 BTC [+]
Dec 05 21:05:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051021 = 2.2046 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:05:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00050995 = 6.0067 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:05:58 <noagendamarket>	kakobrekla where did he leave that comment ?
Dec 05 21:06:56 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93445.420
Dec 05 21:07:09 <kakobrekla>	2 hrs ago
Dec 05 21:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 186 @ 0.00320667 = 0.5964 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:07:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1506 @ 0.00320333 = 4.8242 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:07:20 <kakobrekla>	or something
Dec 05 21:08:13 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons not the girl, some other girl.
Dec 05 21:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	so since people are throwing shit about :
Dec 05 21:10:33 <mircea_popescu>	;;google mircea popescu birda
Dec 05 21:10:33 <gribble>	Mircea Popescu - Sesiune training Birda, Timis on Vimeo: <http://vimeo.com/7125141>; Chem. Bull. `POLITEHNICA` Univ. Timisoara - Chemical Bulletin of ...: <http://www.chemicalbulletin.ro/Chemical-Bulletin-Search-Issues.html>; Cuprins - Journal of Horticulture, Forestry and Biotechnology: <http://www.journal-hfb.usab-tm.ro/romana/2011/Limba%20romana/Cuprins_vol.15(1).pdf>
Dec 05 21:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	hum
Dec 05 21:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	that first link there is me talking to the worst possible audience : some rural community of ~200 souls in the depths of romania
Dec 05 21:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	on the campaign trail, so tis politics.
Dec 05 21:12:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051982 = 2.2461 BTC [+]
Dec 05 21:12:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8255 @ 0.00051999 = 4.2925 BTC [+]
Dec 05 21:12:20 <dub>	transcription plox
Dec 05 21:12:31 <dub>	(jokes :)
Dec 05 21:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://vimeo.com/5236831 that's also me, talking to a moar urban crowd (party headquarters, timisoara)
Dec 05 21:13:27 <mircea_popescu>	dub the second is transcripted hiar : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2009/banii-oamenii-si-valorile-liberale/
Dec 05 21:14:07 <dub>	lol at the camera rotation in the first
Dec 05 21:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	yeah well.
Dec 05 21:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, they're not prepared speeches, either of them.
Dec 05 21:16:11 <kakobrekla>	at 5:50 second speach i hear some "kilograme"
Dec 05 21:16:17 <kakobrekla>	is this about cherries?
Dec 05 21:16:37 <noagendamarket>	cocaine
Dec 05 21:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	kilogram
Dec 05 21:17:59 <Namjies>	pfff....
Dec 05 21:18:20 <Namjies>	Processing lots of claims and updating spreadsheets.
Dec 05 21:18:33 <Namjies>	Because manual work is so much better than platform work eh.
Dec 05 21:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, that last speech is basically me advocating bitcoin, of sorts. in 2008 iirc.
Dec 05 21:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051019 = 2.2045 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7279 @ 0.00050995 = 3.7119 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 543 @ 0.00321526 = 1.7459 BTC [+]
Dec 05 21:37:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005115 = 2.2102 BTC [+]
Dec 05 21:37:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18029 @ 0.00051154 = 9.2226 BTC [+]
Dec 05 21:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051027 = 2.2049 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3342 @ 0.00050995 = 1.7043 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0005092 = 2.6478 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3741 @ 0.0005089 = 1.9038 BTC [-]
Dec 05 21:58:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051142 = 2.2098 BTC [+]
Dec 05 21:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4921 @ 0.00051154 = 2.5173 BTC [+]
Dec 05 21:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20199 @ 0.00051999 = 10.5033 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051983 = 2.2462 BTC [-]
Dec 05 22:07:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4505 @ 0.00051999 = 2.3426 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:07:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 841 @ 0.00052075 = 0.438 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7201 @ 0.00052075 = 3.7499 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00052112 = 4.7422 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:12:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5999 @ 0.0005217 = 3.1297 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:19:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3755 @ 0.00050748 = 1.9056 BTC [-]
Dec 05 22:30:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 566 @ 0.00050748 = 0.2872 BTC [-]
Dec 05 22:30:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7334 @ 0.00050725 = 3.7202 BTC [-]
Dec 05 22:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00328234 = 9.5188 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052145 = 2.2532 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3851 @ 0.0005217 = 2.0091 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:38:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00052176 = 10.8526 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:38:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3881 @ 0.00052289 = 2.0293 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:38:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5165 @ 0.00052347 = 2.7037 BTC [+]
Dec 05 22:57:20 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.ebay.com/itm/MISSILETOE-KISS-GUARANTEED-FUNNY-CHRISTMAS-TREE-DECORATION-ORNAMENT-/130814270579?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e75235c73
Dec 05 22:57:34 <Diablo-D3>	[09:16:11] <kakobrekla> at 5:50 second speach i hear some "kilograme"
Dec 05 22:57:36 <Diablo-D3>	[09:16:18] <kakobrekla> is this about cherries?
Dec 05 22:58:32 <Diablo-D3>	my penis is often weighed in kilograms by british chicks.
Dec 05 23:03:05 <[\\\]>	only by the bitches that failed mathclass and never heard of using mg
Dec 05 23:05:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15075 @ 0.00052347 = 7.8913 BTC [+]
Dec 05 23:05:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10340 @ 0.00052372 = 5.4153 BTC [+]
Dec 05 23:05:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3743 @ 0.00052373 = 1.9603 BTC [+]
Dec 05 23:06:24 <Diablo-D3>	[\\\]: integer kilograms.
Dec 05 23:09:07 <Namjies>	right, (milli)kilograms. That could be shortened to their accurate denomination: grams.
Dec 05 23:12:09 <mircea_popescu>	it's mili you know
Dec 05 23:14:22 <Namjies>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix
Dec 05 23:14:24 <Namjies>	milli
Dec 05 23:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051981 = 2.2461 BTC [-]
Dec 05 23:19:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.00051977 = 16.8146 BTC [-]
Dec 05 23:19:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00051788 = 8.4414 BTC [-]
Dec 05 23:19:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00051671 = 6.6656 BTC [-]
Dec 05 23:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1429 @ 0.00051278 = 0.7328 BTC [-]
Dec 05 23:22:35 *	Diablo-D3 hands Namjies and mircea_popescu a shovel
Dec 05 23:22:36 <Diablo-D3>	its faster
Dec 05 23:23:11 <mircea_popescu>	drat.
Dec 05 23:23:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.0005138 = 3.1856 BTC [+]
Dec 05 23:23:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051307 = 2.217 BTC [-]
Dec 05 23:23:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24745 @ 0.00051278 = 12.6887 BTC [-]
Dec 05 23:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2575 @ 0.00330307 = 8.5054 BTC [+]
Dec 05 23:26:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 588 @ 0.00333234 = 1.9594 BTC [+]
Dec 05 23:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00333813 = 3.3381 BTC [+]
Dec 05 23:26:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 387 @ 0.0033437 = 1.294 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 23:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00052108 = 10.5519 BTC [+]
Dec 05 23:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.0033437 = 8.0249 BTC [+]
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Dec 05 23:49:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00052108 = 4.4552 BTC [+]
Dec 05 23:49:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00051628 = 7.77 BTC [-]
Dec 05 23:52:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00051628 = 12.1842 BTC [-]
Dec 05 23:53:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00051628 = 2.9944 BTC [-]
Dec 05 23:57:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5195 @ 0.00051628 = 2.6821 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00051279 = 10.0507 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1717 @ 0.00051278 = 0.8804 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005148 = 2.2245 BTC [+]
Dec 06 00:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19805 @ 0.00051503 = 10.2002 BTC [+]
Dec 06 00:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4916 @ 0.00052231 = 2.5677 BTC [+]
Dec 06 00:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1107 @ 0.00328234 = 3.6336 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2793 @ 0.00325533 = 9.0921 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051309 = 2.2171 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:14:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2988 @ 0.00051279 = 1.5322 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31691 @ 0.00051278 = 16.2505 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:16:39 <noagendamarket>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129382.msg1381456;topicseen#msg1381456  not sure if serious
Dec 06 00:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	0! is defined as =1
Dec 06 00:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052225 = 2.2566 BTC [+]
Dec 06 00:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12984 @ 0.00052231 = 6.7817 BTC [+]
Dec 06 00:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8445 @ 0.00052373 = 4.4229 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 00:37:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052361 = 2.2625 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6712 @ 0.00052373 = 3.5153 BTC [+]
Dec 06 00:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3167 @ 0.00052474 = 1.6619 BTC [+]
Dec 06 00:47:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00051741 = 5.8985 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051295 = 2.2165 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8379 @ 0.00051278 = 4.2966 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 00:56:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052312 = 2.2604 BTC [+]
Dec 06 00:56:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00052311 = 10.7761 BTC [-]
Dec 06 00:58:53 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: wait, what?
Dec 06 01:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Dec 06 01:02:22 <Diablo-D3>	[12:17:58] <mircea_popescu> 0! is defined as =1
Dec 06 01:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	it is.
Dec 06 01:03:00 <Diablo-D3>	okay, I fail higher math, what is 0!?
Dec 06 01:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	zero factorial.
Dec 06 01:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 7!
Dec 06 01:03:35 <gribble>	Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
Dec 06 01:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	awell.
Dec 06 01:06:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052207 = 2.2559 BTC [-]
Dec 06 01:06:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16097 @ 0.00052235 = 8.4083 BTC [+]
Dec 06 01:06:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3382 @ 0.00052408 = 1.7724 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 01:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052379 = 2.2633 BTC [-]
Dec 06 01:38:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29479 @ 0.00052408 = 15.4494 BTC [+]
Dec 06 01:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00052408 = 5.267 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 01:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052231 = 2.2569 BTC [-]
Dec 06 02:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1729 @ 0.00052223 = 0.9029 BTC [-]
Dec 06 02:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29871 @ 0.00052408 = 15.6548 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 02:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052373 = 2.263 BTC [-]
Dec 06 02:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15991 @ 0.00052408 = 8.3806 BTC [+]
Dec 06 02:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2983 @ 0.00052474 = 1.5653 BTC [+]
Dec 06 02:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5156 @ 0.0005253 = 2.7084 BTC [+]
Dec 06 02:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8943 @ 0.0005253 = 4.6978 BTC [+]
Dec 06 02:13:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00052624 = 2.9469 BTC [+]
Dec 06 02:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6507 @ 0.00052645 = 3.4256 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 02:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00052616 = 6.1561 BTC [-]
Dec 06 02:33:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.000525 = 0.9188 BTC [-]
Dec 06 02:40:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1255 @ 0.00052645 = 0.6607 BTC [+]
Dec 06 02:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10045 @ 0.00052656 = 5.2893 BTC [+]
Dec 06 02:44:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24153 @ 0.000525 = 12.6803 BTC [-]
Dec 06 02:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4005 @ 0.00052656 = 2.1089 BTC [+]
Dec 06 02:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00052656 = 4.3441 BTC [+]
Dec 06 02:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00052665 = 3.0282 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:01:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00052665 = 3.6076 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:01:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00052677 = 5.9788 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:11:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00052677 = 8.0069 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:11:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10361 @ 0.00052683 = 5.4585 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:14:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9363 @ 0.00052683 = 4.9327 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:14:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2587 @ 0.0005269 = 1.3631 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:18:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32647 @ 0.000525 = 17.1397 BTC [-]
Dec 06 03:18:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19553 @ 0.00052376 = 10.2411 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 03:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97 @ 0.00052376 = 0.0508 BTC [-]
Dec 06 03:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18603 @ 0.00052263 = 9.7225 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 03:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31550 @ 0.0005269 = 16.6237 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:45:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4016 @ 0.0005269 = 2.116 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18334 @ 0.00052709 = 9.6637 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:48:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8097 @ 0.00052709 = 4.2678 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 03:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052264 = 2.2583 BTC [-]
Dec 06 03:51:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17181 @ 0.00052263 = 8.9793 BTC [-]
Dec 06 03:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052686 = 2.2766 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1569 @ 0.00052709 = 0.827 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00052718 = 2.1351 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:55:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4510 @ 0.00052718 = 2.3776 BTC [+]
Dec 06 03:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3130 @ 0.00052271 = 1.6361 BTC [-]
Dec 06 03:56:34 <Namjies>	Hmm... I have... an interesting investor in BTC-BOND it seems...
Dec 06 04:00:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12382 @ 0.00052718 = 6.5275 BTC [+]
Dec 06 04:00:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3318 @ 0.00052724 = 1.7494 BTC [+]
Dec 06 04:01:03 <Namjies>	From the founder of a SEC registered trading platform? Assuming the email is accurate.
Dec 06 04:01:37 <Namjies>	I would have liked a reply through email to verify that.
Dec 06 04:07:08 <Namjies>	I just have doubts about that.
Dec 06 04:16:40 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Dec 06 04:20:15 <Namjies>	Yeah.
Dec 06 04:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00052479 = 9.2363 BTC [-]
Dec 06 04:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2089 @ 0.00052701 = 1.1009 BTC [+]
Dec 06 04:22:42 <Namjies>	Odd thing is he registered on Bitcointalk.org after I sent the email out. So he knew the full email and btc address. Although there's also the announcement on the forum and if he provided false information, he could then have seen the announcement and registered another account to PM those info to appear to... But why take so much trouble to appear as some other person?
Dec 06 04:22:59 <Diablo-D3>	for the lulz
Dec 06 04:23:08 <Namjies>	Eh
Dec 06 04:24:08 <Namjies>	Whatever it is, I'm intrigued.
Dec 06 04:35:04 <Namjies>	It's not that big of a company either, focused on alternative investments and owns a large chunk of BTC-BOND in terms of the average holder but a bit of play money for anyone with larger capital.
Dec 06 04:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1191 @ 0.00052271 = 0.6225 BTC [-]
Dec 06 04:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21609 @ 0.00052263 = 11.2935 BTC [-]
Dec 06 04:35:51 <Namjies>	It looks credible. If it's fake information, the user went to great extent to hide his true identity.
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Dec 06 04:40:08 <Diablo-D3>	not like thats particularly hard
Dec 06 04:40:52 <Namjies>	Hmm, I guess the amount of people suitable is not lacking.
Dec 06 04:42:10 <Namjies>	mircea_popescu: is there a bot puting those 1000 ask/bids on options? Is that MPEx default price for options?
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Dec 06 04:47:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052519 = 2.2693 BTC [+]
Dec 06 04:47:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00052521 = 2.0373 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 04:54:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21471 @ 0.00052521 = 11.2768 BTC [+]
Dec 06 04:54:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15179 @ 0.00052675 = 7.9955 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 04:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005233 = 2.2612 BTC [-]
Dec 06 04:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14560 @ 0.0005232 = 7.6178 BTC [-]
Dec 06 04:56:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5769 @ 0.00052263 = 3.0151 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 05:02:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052672 = 2.276 BTC [+]
Dec 06 05:02:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00052675 = 0.3271 BTC [+]
Dec 06 05:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12158 @ 0.00052701 = 6.4074 BTC [+]
Dec 06 05:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052298 = 2.2598 BTC [-]
Dec 06 05:10:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12238 @ 0.00052263 = 6.3959 BTC [-]
Dec 06 05:10:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6491 @ 0.00052218 = 3.3895 BTC [-]
Dec 06 05:13:59 <Namjies>	Looks like he's sleeping.
Dec 06 05:14:17 <Namjies>	or away actually
Dec 06 05:14:29 <Namjies>	looks like its around noon in Europe.
Dec 06 05:14:36 <Namjies>	oh well
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Dec 06 05:15:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052232 = 2.2569 BTC [+]
Dec 06 05:15:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6645 @ 0.00052218 = 3.4699 BTC [-]
Dec 06 05:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00052122 = 4.3261 BTC [-]
Dec 06 05:15:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8306 @ 0.00052095 = 4.327 BTC [-]
Dec 06 05:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00052263 = 2.2473 BTC [+]
Dec 06 05:31:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00052095 = 1.5629 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 05:55:10 <EskimoBob>	dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1 count=10 2>/dev/null | base64 -w 0 | rev | cut -b 2- | rev
Dec 06 05:55:23 <EskimoBob>	wrong window
Dec 06 05:58:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7994 @ 0.00052095 = 4.1645 BTC [-]
Dec 06 05:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8806 @ 0.0005202 = 4.5809 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052674 = 2.276 BTC [+]
Dec 06 06:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15779 @ 0.00052701 = 8.3157 BTC [+]
Dec 06 06:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052535 = 2.27 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:15:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00052532 = 5.2795 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:15:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10479 @ 0.0005202 = 5.4512 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1905 @ 0.0005202 = 0.991 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:21:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00051984 = 10.8647 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:21:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3225 @ 0.00051871 = 1.6728 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 06:26:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 725 @ 0.00051871 = 0.3761 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:26:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00051835 = 10.5743 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:26:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 532 @ 0.00051724 = 0.2752 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 934 @ 0.0033361 = 3.1159 BTC [+]
Dec 06 06:31:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3566 @ 0.00327384 = 11.6745 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15168 @ 0.00051724 = 7.8455 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00051701 = 6.9796 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00051669 = 6.4586 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11232 @ 0.00051596 = 5.7953 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00051751 = 0.2329 BTC [+]
Dec 06 06:47:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1668 @ 0.00051596 = 0.8606 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:47:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13682 @ 0.00051484 = 7.044 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:51:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7134 @ 0.00051484 = 3.6729 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 197 @ 0.0005133 = 0.1011 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9624 @ 0.0005133 = 4.94 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20029 @ 0.0005133 = 10.2809 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5139 @ 0.00051278 = 2.6352 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:58:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00051164 = 4.4769 BTC [-]
Dec 06 06:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1778 @ 0.00050978 = 0.9064 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 07:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 481 @ 0.00327384 = 1.5747 BTC [-]
Dec 06 07:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1024 @ 0.00325533 = 3.3335 BTC [-]
Dec 06 07:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1404 @ 0.00324728 = 4.5592 BTC [-]
Dec 06 07:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7291 @ 0.00051536 = 3.7575 BTC [+]
Dec 06 07:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9822 @ 0.00050978 = 5.0071 BTC [-]
Dec 06 07:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00050899 = 1.0943 BTC [-]
Dec 06 07:17:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3970 @ 0.00050861 = 2.0192 BTC [-]
Dec 06 07:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4817 @ 0.00050841 = 2.449 BTC [-]
Dec 06 07:29:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00050841 = 5.262 BTC [-]
Dec 06 07:29:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4465 @ 0.00050725 = 2.2649 BTC [-]
Dec 06 07:29:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9835 @ 0.00050718 = 4.9881 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 07:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14464 @ 0.00051249 = 7.4127 BTC [+]
Dec 06 07:37:42 *	darkee (~darkee@gateway/tor-sasl/darkee) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 06 07:50:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 627 @ 0.0033435 = 2.0964 BTC [+]
Dec 06 07:50:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 873 @ 0.0033437 = 2.9191 BTC [+]
Dec 06 07:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 686 @ 0.00051605 = 0.354 BTC [+]
Dec 06 07:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.0005082 = 6.0984 BTC [-]
Dec 06 07:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3161 @ 0.00050718 = 1.6032 BTC [-]
Dec 06 08:01:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2004 @ 0.00050718 = 1.0164 BTC [-]
Dec 06 08:01:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6096 @ 0.00050708 = 3.0912 BTC [-]
Dec 06 08:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.0033437 = 0.1337 BTC [+]
Dec 06 08:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00334569 = 5.6877 BTC [+]
Dec 06 08:12:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00051022 = 10.8167 BTC [+]
Dec 06 08:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8815 @ 0.00050708 = 4.4699 BTC [-]
Dec 06 08:14:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00051751 = 4.5541 BTC [+]
Dec 06 08:14:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00052054 = 2.6027 BTC [+]
Dec 06 08:14:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052701 = 2.3715 BTC [+]
Dec 06 08:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052685 = 2.2765 BTC [-]
Dec 06 08:18:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3478 @ 0.00052701 = 1.8329 BTC [+]
Dec 06 08:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13569 @ 0.00052724 = 7.1541 BTC [+]
Dec 06 08:27:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00335574 = 5.8725 BTC [+]
Dec 06 08:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00050745 = 3.8566 BTC [-]
Dec 06 08:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050718 = 2.1915 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 08:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4691 @ 0.00050708 = 2.3787 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 09:28:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052498 = 2.2684 BTC [+]
Dec 06 09:28:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5703 @ 0.00052473 = 2.9925 BTC [-]
Dec 06 09:28:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00052243 = 1.2277 BTC [-]
Dec 06 09:28:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1826 @ 0.00052111 = 0.9515 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 09:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15974 @ 0.00052111 = 8.3242 BTC [-]
Dec 06 09:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00052069 = 2.1348 BTC [-]
Dec 06 09:39:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20226 @ 0.0005181 = 10.4791 BTC [-]
Dec 06 09:39:25 *	Luceo (~Luc3o@gateway/tor-sasl/luceo) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 06 09:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052194 = 2.2553 BTC [+]
Dec 06 09:55:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26541 @ 0.00052197 = 13.8536 BTC [+]
Dec 06 09:55:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6938 @ 0.0005271 = 3.657 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051835 = 2.2398 BTC [-]
Dec 06 10:09:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.0005181 = 0.2482 BTC [-]
Dec 06 10:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052146 = 2.2532 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00052147 = 10.7944 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:17:50 *	PsychoticBoy (~Psychotic@5ED180CA.cm-7-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 06 10:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00052384 = 1.3882 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:21:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2129 @ 0.00052384 = 1.1153 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252 @ 0.0005181 = 0.1306 BTC [-]
Dec 06 10:21:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00051778 = 12.0643 BTC [-]
Dec 06 10:21:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00051742 = 2.7423 BTC [-]
Dec 06 10:21:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18010 @ 0.00051555 = 9.2851 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 10:35:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005158 = 2.2288 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11872 @ 0.00051555 = 6.1206 BTC [-]
Dec 06 10:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052706 = 2.2774 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:44:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4890 @ 0.0005271 = 2.5775 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:44:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37782 @ 0.00052724 = 19.9202 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:44:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12207 @ 0.00052725 = 6.4361 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00052579 = 0.6835 BTC [-]
Dec 06 10:55:25 <mod6>	Blue Horseshoe loves Anacott Steel.
Dec 06 10:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052702 = 2.2773 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11043 @ 0.00052725 = 5.8224 BTC [+]
Dec 06 10:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10389 @ 0.00052728 = 5.4779 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052709 = 2.2776 BTC [-]
Dec 06 11:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11657 @ 0.00052728 = 6.1465 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:03:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2022 @ 0.00052737 = 1.0663 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3278 @ 0.00052737 = 1.7287 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4122 @ 0.0005275 = 2.1744 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 11:25:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3021 @ 0.00052579 = 1.5884 BTC [-]
Dec 06 11:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13504 @ 0.00052575 = 7.0997 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 11:32:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00052588 = 1.9458 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:33:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052725 = 2.2782 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:33:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22178 @ 0.0005275 = 11.6989 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:33:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5501 @ 0.00052775 = 2.9032 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00052588 = 0.3266 BTC [-]
Dec 06 11:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10479 @ 0.00052575 = 5.5093 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 11:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052743 = 2.279 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10753 @ 0.00052775 = 5.6749 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:42:19 *	darkee (~darkee@gateway/tor-sasl/darkee) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 06 11:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4296 @ 0.00052775 = 2.2672 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17295 @ 0.00052793 = 9.1305 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:45:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9809 @ 0.00052841 = 5.1832 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 11:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052588 = 2.2723 BTC [-]
Dec 06 11:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5217 @ 0.00052575 = 2.7428 BTC [-]
Dec 06 11:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11662 @ 0.00052537 = 6.1269 BTC [-]
Dec 06 11:50:51 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2012/12/06/two-track-thursdays/
Dec 06 11:50:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052835 = 2.283 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 11:54:34 <jurov>	http://www.net-security.org/malware_news.php?id=2344 so much for sms double factor authentication
Dec 06 11:57:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16325 @ 0.0005284 = 8.6261 BTC [+]
Dec 06 11:57:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00052557 = 4.6513 BTC [-]
Dec 06 11:57:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4325 @ 0.00052537 = 2.2722 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 12:04:56 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Dec 06 12:04:56 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi
Dec 06 12:04:56 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Nov  8 08:00:02 2012
Dec 06 12:05:06 *	darkee (~darkee@gateway/tor-sasl/darkee) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 06 12:05:23 *	You are now known as Guest90125
Dec 06 12:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16812 @ 0.00052848 = 8.8848 BTC [+]
Dec 06 12:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00052859 = 10.0696 BTC [+]
Dec 06 12:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00052877 = 2.8289 BTC [+]
Dec 06 12:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27488 @ 0.00052903 = 14.542 BTC [+]
Dec 06 12:10:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005257 = 2.2715 BTC [-]
Dec 06 12:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052554 = 2.2709 BTC [-]
Dec 06 12:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5958 @ 0.00052537 = 3.1302 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 12:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052567 = 2.2714 BTC [+]
Dec 06 12:19:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4555 @ 0.00052537 = 2.3931 BTC [-]
Dec 06 12:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7091 @ 0.00052268 = 3.7063 BTC [-]
Dec 06 12:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4933 @ 0.00051758 = 2.5532 BTC [-]
Dec 06 12:22:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4417 @ 0.00051758 = 2.2862 BTC [-]
Dec 06 12:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5533 @ 0.00051555 = 2.8525 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 12:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	so i just received a pair of those bitcoin cufflinks
Dec 06 12:30:34 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool
Dec 06 12:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell namjies ofcourse there's a bot putting in the 1ks. that's mpoe.
Dec 06 12:31:02 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 06 12:32:19 <jcpham>	who had the cufflinks again?
Dec 06 12:32:27 <jcpham>	i remember those but forgot about them
Dec 06 12:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052744 = 2.2791 BTC [+]
Dec 06 12:37:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20079 @ 0.00052779 = 10.5975 BTC [+]
Dec 06 12:38:49 <mircea_popescu>	some guy on forum, 1 sec
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Dec 06 12:39:30 <jcpham>	yeah it was a forum thread
Dec 06 12:39:32 <jcpham>	that's right
Dec 06 12:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120686.0
Dec 06 12:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	isokivi guy
Dec 06 12:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051834 = 2.2397 BTC [-]
Dec 06 12:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15672 @ 0.00051811 = 8.1198 BTC [-]
Dec 06 12:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25107 @ 0.00051651 = 12.968 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 12:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00051651 = 6.4564 BTC [-]
Dec 06 12:51:13 <smickles>	17:31 < mircea_popescu> ;;later tell namjies ofcourse there's a bot putting in the 1ks. that's mpoe. <<< lolwut?
Dec 06 12:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno ?
Dec 06 12:53:06 <smickles>	heh, what caused you to make that statement
Dec 06 12:54:17 <kakobreklaaa>	i dont have anything to put that cufflink on
Dec 06 12:54:30 <kakobreklaaa>	you all srs bsns
Dec 06 12:54:40 <smickles>	kakobreklaaa: cut a hole in the sleeve of your t-shirt
Dec 06 12:55:00 <kakobreklaaa>	no need to cut
Dec 06 12:55:07 <smickles>	oh, right
Dec 06 12:55:17 <kakobreklaaa>	its old just rip if its not already there!
Dec 06 12:55:17 *	smickles looks at his own t
Dec 06 12:55:58 <kakobreklaaa>	i like my clothes old and worn
Dec 06 12:56:08 <kakobreklaaa>	even in public
Dec 06 12:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	smickles namjies was asking if it's mpoe that puts the 1k bids on options
Dec 06 12:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	well... it is
Dec 06 13:00:12 <smickles>	ya know, come to think of it, it's not that directly obvious, is is?
Dec 06 13:00:16 <kakobreklaaa>	mircea_popescu did you get some physical from the guy whos name is unspellable?
Dec 06 13:00:18 <smickles>	er, is it
Dec 06 13:00:44 <kakobreklaaa>	argh words missing
Dec 06 13:00:51 <smickles>	kakobreklaaa: Mike Caldwell is unspellable?
Dec 06 13:00:59 <kakobreklaaa>	physical coins*
Dec 06 13:01:16 <kakobreklaaa>	well no, but cas-something-something is
Dec 06 13:01:28 <smickles>	hehe casascius?
Dec 06 13:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i dunno, i thought it was
Dec 06 13:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	and no afaik kakobreklaaa
Dec 06 13:01:45 <kakobreklaaa>	afaik? you dont know if you got em?
Dec 06 13:01:48 <kakobreklaaa>	thats silly.
Dec 06 13:03:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052776 = 2.2805 BTC [+]
Dec 06 13:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33188 @ 0.00052779 = 17.5163 BTC [+]
Dec 06 13:03:41 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu: http://dubjoy.com/happy
Dec 06 13:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	i never got any!
Dec 06 13:03:50 <jcpham>	i'm ADHD so that may not apply
Dec 06 13:04:09 <jcpham>	basically jengix's conference vidoe
Dec 06 13:04:18 <jcpham>	the original source coul've been subbed freely
Dec 06 13:04:56 <jcpham>	oh nevermind it isn't free
Dec 06 13:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	uh
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Dec 06 13:07:11 <mircea_popescu>	"PSPs are allowed to hold fiat currency on behalf of third-parties and offer payment services, it's exactly what a bank does, minus the issuing of credit."
Dec 06 13:07:14 <mircea_popescu>	davout is cute.
Dec 06 13:07:23 <mircea_popescu>	my cock is exactly like a cunt minus the bleeding thing
Dec 06 13:13:24 <dub>	wat
Dec 06 13:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate Isokivi 1 Bitcoin cufflinks!
Dec 06 13:22:20 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Isokivi has been recorded.
Dec 06 13:30:58 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg1382629#msg1382629 ?
Dec 06 13:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure i get the question.
Dec 06 13:32:41 <jurov>	all bondholders get the part of loss based on their investment, right?
Dec 06 13:32:44 <jurov>	in mpoe
Dec 06 13:33:12 <jurov>	then, they have no incentive to lower the requested interest
Dec 06 13:33:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052881 = 2.285 BTC [+]
Dec 06 13:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22029 @ 0.00052903 = 11.654 BTC [+]
Dec 06 13:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052901 = 2.2859 BTC [-]
Dec 06 13:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6319 @ 0.00052903 = 3.3429 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 13:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yes
Dec 06 13:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	their incentive is that if someone asks for less that someone gets paid and they get nothing.
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Dec 06 13:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1403 @ 0.00335574 = 4.7081 BTC [+]
Dec 06 13:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00334751 = 10.0425 BTC [-]
Dec 06 13:43:57 <jurov>	while potential reward is depending on requested interest, the risk is not. so it makes sense to maximize potential reward
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Dec 06 13:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052812 = 2.282 BTC [-]
Dec 06 13:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11929 @ 0.00052793 = 6.2977 BTC [-]
Dec 06 13:44:32 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think your modelling is correct.
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Dec 06 13:44:43 <mircea_popescu>	potential reward is = to the highest interest someone asks, for everybody.
Dec 06 13:44:54 <mircea_popescu>	risk is = to the interest the person himself asks.
Dec 06 13:44:54 <jurov>	plus the demand for bonds is consistently higher than supply, this is the catch
Dec 06 13:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	so the actual self-interest is to ask for 0% and hope someone else asks for 100% or w/e
Dec 06 13:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	the demand is actually consistently less than the suppluy.
Dec 06 13:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	november was the first time in like half a year that the demand overstripped supply.\
Dec 06 13:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052812 = 2.282 BTC [+]
Dec 06 13:46:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13479 @ 0.00052793 = 7.116 BTC [-]
Dec 06 13:46:26 <kakobreklaaa>	on a side note, i had a surge of new bitcoin forex accounts and 90% of the people never used bitcoin before
Dec 06 13:46:32 <jurov>	i see it as a gamble, you either receive the interest, or lose exactly the same part as other players
Dec 06 13:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool.
Dec 06 13:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	that didn't make sense jurov
Dec 06 13:50:21 <jurov>	well it's true it needs more exact research... i'll maybe put it into spreadsheet over historical data what would happen if i had lowest vs. highest bond rate
Dec 06 13:51:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's pretty simple tho : if you had 0% rate you would always be included, and receive whatever's paid, 4%, 9%, 9.9% etcv
Dec 06 13:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	if you asked for 9.9% you'd be included in november but not in august, sept oct etc
Dec 06 13:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	thus you effectively make 9.9/4 = 2.4x% per month
Dec 06 13:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	this mathematically converges to the actual true rate.
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Dec 06 13:55:13 <kakobreklaaa>	hum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129461.0
Dec 06 13:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	ya i was saying earlier.
Dec 06 13:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	good for him tho.
Dec 06 13:56:45 <kakobreklaaa>	what were you sayin about it
Dec 06 13:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	"<mircea_popescu> davout is cute."
Dec 06 13:59:27 <kakobreklaaa>	a.
Dec 06 13:59:28 <kakobreklaaa>	:)
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Dec 06 14:10:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052898 = 2.2857 BTC [+]
Dec 06 14:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6497 @ 0.00052903 = 3.4371 BTC [+]
Dec 06 14:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6132 @ 0.00052922 = 3.2452 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 14:14:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005292 = 2.2867 BTC [-]
Dec 06 14:14:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 979 @ 0.00052922 = 0.5181 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 14:20:03 <kakobreklaaa>	o looky https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129454.0
Dec 06 14:20:19 <kakobreklaaa>	Coin Publishing LLC is collectively owned by individuals owning or working at BitPay, Butterfly Labs, Google, Casascius, 20 Mission, and Virtual Processing Solutions.
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Dec 06 14:22:54 <jurov>	yeah, the more people mix into it, the better
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Dec 06 14:24:17 <kakobreklaaa>	dunno, id rather see bfl keeps its shit for themselfs, with the rest im not bothered
Dec 06 14:24:36 <kakobreklaaa>	and 20 missions?
Dec 06 14:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	is that vps giga's thing ?
Dec 06 14:24:41 <kakobreklaaa>	isnt that in default or smth
Dec 06 14:24:47 <kakobreklaaa>	ya
Dec 06 14:25:00 <jcpham>	is Coin Publishing LLC a MNW umbrella organization?
Dec 06 14:25:08 <jcpham>	and is Dr. Evil a charter member?
Dec 06 14:25:19 <kakobreklaaa>	lol
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Dec 06 14:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005281 = 2.2819 BTC [-]
Dec 06 14:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19879 @ 0.00052793 = 10.4947 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 14:32:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052804 = 2.2817 BTC [+]
Dec 06 14:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00052793 = 3.3413 BTC [-]
Dec 06 14:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1075 @ 0.00052793 = 0.5675 BTC [-]
Dec 06 14:33:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29925 @ 0.0005248 = 15.7046 BTC [-]
Dec 06 14:37:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052504 = 2.2687 BTC [+]
Dec 06 14:37:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14930 @ 0.0005248 = 7.8353 BTC [-]
Dec 06 14:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2149 @ 0.00052193 = 1.1216 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 14:45:20 <dub>	forums getting dawsed again?
Dec 06 14:45:33 <dub>	deedaaaws
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Dec 06 15:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00052232 = 5.4844 BTC [+]
Dec 06 15:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00052193 = 7.9855 BTC [-]
Dec 06 15:11:41 <dub>	giga bought into bitcoin magazine?
Dec 06 15:11:45 <dub>	dude is losing the plot
Dec 06 15:12:59 <kakobrekla>	hum?
Dec 06 15:13:06 <dub>	http://bitcoinmagazine.net/bitcoin-magazine-has-new-ownership/
Dec 06 15:13:08 <kakobrekla>	you are bothered by him?
Dec 06 15:13:21 <dub>	Coin Publishing LLC is collectively owned by individuals owning or working at BitPay, Butterfly Labs, Google, Casascius, 20 Mission, and Virtual Processing Solutions.
Dec 06 15:13:28 <kakobrekla>	yeah i pasted same earlier
Dec 06 15:13:42 <kakobrekla>	bfl is the one that is bothering me
Dec 06 15:14:04 <dub>	kakobrekla: in that list he is the only dissapointment
Dec 06 15:14:27 <dub>	as in, he wasn't previously in my assclown list
Dec 06 15:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052832 = 2.2829 BTC [+]
Dec 06 15:14:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00052843 = 6.2244 BTC [+]
Dec 06 15:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	isn't 20 mission the thing tradehill people (mckenna et co) made with the money they stole off customers ?
Dec 06 15:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	o, yes it is.
Dec 06 15:14:56 <dub>	yeah 20 sacmmers
Dec 06 15:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	nasty.
Dec 06 15:15:03 <dub>	scammers*
Dec 06 15:15:13 <kakobrekla>	20:24.15 ( kakobreklaaa ) dunno, id rather see bfl keeps its shit for themselfs, with the rest im not bothered
Dec 06 15:15:13 <kakobrekla>	20:24.34 ( kakobreklaaa ) and 20 missions?
Dec 06 15:15:13 <kakobrekla>	20:24.39 ( mircea_popescu ) is that vps giga's thing ?
Dec 06 15:15:13 <kakobrekla>	20:24.39 ( kakobreklaaa ) isnt that in default or smth
Dec 06 15:15:13 <kakobrekla>	20:24.45 ( kakobreklaaa ) ya
Dec 06 15:15:24 <dub>	buttpay is vorhees
Dec 06 15:15:31 <dub>	bfl, derp
Dec 06 15:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was shrem
Dec 06 15:15:49 <dub>	google is clearly the great satan
Dec 06 15:15:59 <dub>	casascius is a moron apologist
Dec 06 15:16:07 <kakobrekla>	so they sold a share to a janitor at google
Dec 06 15:16:08 <kakobrekla>	big deal
Dec 06 15:16:37 <dub>	yeah thats a funny inclusion
Dec 06 15:16:52 <dub>	'google was involved in this deal'
Dec 06 15:17:16 <dub>	gigavps: please tell us that your janitor invested not gigacorp
Dec 06 15:18:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052199 = 2.2555 BTC [-]
Dec 06 15:18:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4349 @ 0.00052193 = 2.2699 BTC [-]
Dec 06 15:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23098 @ 0.00052057 = 12.0241 BTC [-]
Dec 06 15:18:52 <dub>	so anyone know if vlad and the resit of the cryptoanarchy in the UK set are still involved?
Dec 06 15:19:22 <kakobrekla>	vlad is not
Dec 06 15:20:30 <dub>	in that case it might be for the best
Dec 06 15:21:13 <dub>	if I see another guy fawkes mask on that shit im going to be evben butthurter
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Dec 06 15:26:32 <Ukto>	anyone hold any shares of Cognative ?
Dec 06 15:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9553 @ 0.00052057 = 4.973 BTC [-]
Dec 06 15:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5247 @ 0.00052025 = 2.7298 BTC [-]
Dec 06 15:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10853 @ 0.00052025 = 5.6463 BTC [-]
Dec 06 15:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16264 @ 0.00051887 = 8.4389 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 15:49:47 <dub>	anyone else still waiting on btc balance from globalsex?
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Dec 06 15:51:50 <jcpham>	shrug
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Dec 06 16:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19044 @ 0.00051887 = 9.8814 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11594 @ 0.0005175 = 5.9999 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2730 @ 0.00051651 = 1.4101 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25541 @ 0.00051616 = 13.1832 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1885 @ 0.00051555 = 0.9718 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 706 @ 0.00051552 = 0.364 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00051552 = 3.9695 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:09:54 <Namjies>	argh, I'm receiving lists with new holders... which I already had.
Dec 06 16:10:10 <Namjies>	mixed with actual new ones
Dec 06 16:10:23 <Namjies>	2 new ones, 1 I already had
Dec 06 16:10:44 <Namjies>	Those lists are driving me nuts.
Dec 06 16:15:08 <Namjies>	Diablo-D3
Dec 06 16:15:33 <Namjies>	You got added to BTC-Mining, 106 shares instead of your 100 estimate but that sounds about right.
Dec 06 16:16:39 <dub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-qzXDDnmHco
Dec 06 16:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 703 @ 0.00051552 = 0.3624 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.0005153 = 1.9581 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:18:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22097 @ 0.00051428 = 11.364 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:20:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4413 @ 0.00051731 = 2.2829 BTC [+]
Dec 06 16:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1303 @ 0.00051428 = 0.6701 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24747 @ 0.00051289 = 12.6925 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6132 @ 0.00051731 = 3.1721 BTC [+]
Dec 06 16:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3 @ 0.00051289 = 0.0015 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23156 @ 0.00051283 = 11.8751 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:33:14 <Namjies>	Hmm, anyone would extend me a large loan for about 1 month? Would pay the same rate as BTC-BOND: 0.5% per week. I kind of locked up all my capital in BitVPS and options on MPEx and I'd prefer to pay out small holders right away instead of managing them individually which is a pain.
Dec 06 16:36:42 <kakobrekla>	id say market rate is quite higher than 2% a mo
Dec 06 16:37:24 <Namjies>	It's what I was paying on BTC-BOND, it's what I offer. Otherwise I don't see the point to simplify things if I end up paying more eh.
Dec 06 16:37:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17544 @ 0.00051283 = 8.9971 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:37:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2269 @ 0.00051115 = 1.1598 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:37:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4558 @ 0.00051044 = 2.3266 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39929 @ 0.00050986 = 20.3582 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:41:39 <rdponticelli>	Namjies: How much would be "large"?
Dec 06 16:43:04 <rdponticelli>	*it be
Dec 06 16:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00050986 = 10.4776 BTC [-]
Dec 06 16:46:13 <Namjies>	~200 BTC
Dec 06 16:46:40 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Dec 06 16:46:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.57601, Best ask: 13.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07399, Last trade: 13.59691, 24 hour volume: 32366.75251194, 24 hour low: 13.20099, 24 hour high: 13.68880, 24 hour vwap: 13.45367
Dec 06 16:48:58 <Namjies>	That's less than 3k USD, it's not even that much. But to most around here, it seems like it is.
Dec 06 16:49:01 <rdponticelli>	Namjies: Do you want everything from a single loan?
Dec 06 16:49:08 <Namjies>	Preferably
Dec 06 16:49:29 <kakobrekla>	you are right its not much, as well as the interests :)
Dec 06 16:49:45 <Namjies>	Eh, well it's still a bit more than credit card interests.
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Dec 06 16:58:54 <Namjies>	No one eh? Well darn.
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Dec 06 16:59:41 <Namjies>	I'll check with OTC but I doubt I'd get anything there
Dec 06 17:03:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3087 @ 0.00051212 = 1.5809 BTC [+]
Dec 06 17:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051007 = 2.204 BTC [-]
Dec 06 17:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 471 @ 0.00050986 = 0.2401 BTC [-]
Dec 06 17:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7932 @ 0.00050983 = 4.044 BTC [-]
Dec 06 17:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5726 @ 0.00050966 = 2.9183 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 17:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00051111 = 6.5422 BTC [+]
Dec 06 17:36:06 <jurov>	Namjies, I ended up paying much more, 6% per month on my 100btc loan
Dec 06 17:36:38 <jurov>	so maybe you should really offer more
Dec 06 17:37:37 <Namjies>	I was paying 2% per month on BTC-BOND and is what I pay currently. I'm not interested to pay more than what I already pay.
Dec 06 17:41:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051208 = 2.2127 BTC [+]
Dec 06 17:41:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20863 @ 0.00051212 = 10.6844 BTC [+]
Dec 06 17:41:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 716 @ 0.00051731 = 0.3704 BTC [+]
Dec 06 17:42:43 <dub>	I think its likely that as a result you will not find anyone interested in loaning to you
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Dec 06 17:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051113 = 2.2086 BTC [-]
Dec 06 17:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7758 @ 0.00051111 = 3.9652 BTC [-]
Dec 06 17:49:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7890 @ 0.00050966 = 4.0212 BTC [-]
Dec 06 17:49:53 <Namjies>	That may be.
Dec 06 17:50:13 <Ukto>	or you could just use bitfunder. lol :P
Dec 06 17:50:19 *	Ukto goes back into hiding
Dec 06 17:50:27 <Namjies>	Still, I can provide signed statement from MPEx showing among other things 13% ownership of BitVPS
Dec 06 17:51:24 <Namjies>	That's usually enough for people to accept a low rate.
Dec 06 17:51:47 <kakobrekla>	bitfunder live yet?
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Dec 06 17:53:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00050966 = 8.9191 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 18:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051727 = 2.2351 BTC [+]
Dec 06 18:00:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14687 @ 0.00051731 = 7.5977 BTC [+]
Dec 06 18:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30541 @ 0.00051745 = 15.8034 BTC [+]
Dec 06 18:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00051931 = 1.7657 BTC [+]
Dec 06 18:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00052035 = 0.9887 BTC [+]
Dec 06 18:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11151 @ 0.00052132 = 5.8132 BTC [+]
Dec 06 18:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052117 = 2.252 BTC [-]
Dec 06 18:02:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3229 @ 0.00052132 = 1.6833 BTC [+]
Dec 06 18:04:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051886 = 2.242 BTC [-]
Dec 06 18:04:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17083 @ 0.00051867 = 8.8604 BTC [-]
Dec 06 18:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3937 @ 0.00050966 = 2.0065 BTC [-]
Dec 06 18:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20750 @ 0.00050956 = 10.5734 BTC [-]
Dec 06 18:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19548 @ 0.00050926 = 9.955 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 18:13:11 <pigeons>	amazingrando's BITBOND started trading today on cryptostocks: https://cryptostocks.com/securities/29
Dec 06 18:13:47 <pigeons>	well, no asks yet
Dec 06 18:15:03 <Ukto>	i saw
Dec 06 18:15:17 <Ukto>	my understanding from teh forum
Dec 06 18:15:21 <Ukto>	is its not finished setting up yet
Dec 06 18:15:28 <pigeons>	oh ok
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Dec 06 18:18:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052119 = 2.2521 BTC [+]
Dec 06 18:18:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00052132 = 0.8753 BTC [+]
Dec 06 18:50:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00052105 = 2.6574 BTC [-]
Dec 06 18:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052117 = 2.252 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 18:50:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 482 @ 0.00052132 = 0.2513 BTC [+]
Dec 06 18:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5451 @ 0.00052262 = 2.8488 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 19:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005093 = 2.2007 BTC [-]
Dec 06 19:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16652 @ 0.00050926 = 8.4802 BTC [-]
Dec 06 19:10:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12877 @ 0.00050903 = 6.5548 BTC [-]
Dec 06 19:36:44 <dub>	glk - one crazy mofo
Dec 06 19:36:50 <dub>	http://passionweiss.com/2012/12/03/the-killer-awoke-before-dawn-the-gaslamp-killers-bbc-essential-mix/
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Dec 06 20:32:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052237 = 2.2572 BTC [+]
Dec 06 20:32:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24479 @ 0.00052246 = 12.7893 BTC [+]
Dec 06 20:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7655 @ 0.00052246 = 3.9994 BTC [+]
Dec 06 20:39:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14995 @ 0.00052262 = 7.8367 BTC [+]
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Dec 06 21:28:53 <Ukto>	man
Dec 06 21:28:54 <Ukto>	its quiet in here
Dec 06 21:28:59 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: around?
Dec 06 21:29:02 <Ukto>	or are you square? :P
Dec 06 21:32:38 <kakobrekla>	hey what do people get with ltc or other cpu alt chain in btc these days
Dec 06 21:32:48 <kakobrekla>	per day
Dec 06 21:32:54 <Ukto>	ltc can be had via gpu now
Dec 06 21:33:07 <Ukto>	btc-e.com is most used btc/ltc exchange I think
Dec 06 21:33:21 <kakobrekla>	hum
Dec 06 21:33:27 <kakobrekla>	well the point is i need cpu power
Dec 06 21:33:54 <kakobrekla>	and im looking howmuch would i need to pay cpu miners to outbid alt chain
Dec 06 21:34:22 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: what
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Dec 06 21:36:43 <kakobrekla>	btw anyone got any spare i7 cores to lease? :)
Dec 06 21:41:27 <dub>	could do
Dec 06 21:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052116 = 2.2519 BTC [-]
Dec 06 21:43:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10329 @ 0.00052112 = 5.3826 BTC [-]
Dec 06 21:45:00 <kakobrekla>	dub how much
Dec 06 21:45:23 <dub>	one mee.. dunno
Dec 06 21:46:23 <dub>	er how much what? cores I have, reward I want?
Dec 06 21:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052234 = 2.257 BTC [+]
Dec 06 21:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14454 @ 0.00052262 = 7.5539 BTC [+]
Dec 06 21:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4143 @ 0.00052292 = 2.1665 BTC [+]
Dec 06 21:47:06 <kakobrekla>	cores available
Dec 06 21:48:04 <dub>	8 i7
Dec 06 21:48:24 <dub>	depends if you want them full time though
Dec 06 21:48:35 <kakobrekla>	kinda
Dec 06 21:48:37 <JWU42>	Same - have an i7 920
Dec 06 21:48:53 <JWU42>	so 8 cores with HTT
Dec 06 21:49:19 <kakobrekla>	can you run vm + remote
Dec 06 21:49:35 <kakobrekla>	and i need this for min a month 24/7
Dec 06 21:49:38 <kakobrekla>	else is not worth
Dec 06 21:49:48 <JWU42>	has to be i7 ?
Dec 06 21:50:01 <kakobrekla>	i guess others work too
Dec 06 21:50:08 <kakobrekla>	but older quads are quite slower
Dec 06 21:50:13 <dub>	not really then
Dec 06 21:50:19 <kakobrekla>	i5 works too
Dec 06 21:50:26 <dub>	what doing?
Dec 06 21:50:31 <kakobrekla>	i ment q6600 and stuff
Dec 06 21:50:49 <kakobrekla>	forex backtesting
Dec 06 21:51:15 <JWU42>	would amazon serves not be easier ?
Dec 06 21:51:27 <JWU42>	maybe more costly
Dec 06 21:52:25 <JWU42>	for now the i7 920 is my desktop and it seems you need it in a clean VM
Dec 06 21:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052144 = 2.2531 BTC [-]
Dec 06 21:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7229 @ 0.00052112 = 3.7672 BTC [-]
Dec 06 21:53:00 <Ukto>	how long kakobrekla ?
Dec 06 21:53:04 <kakobrekla>	yeah celan vm would be best prolly
Dec 06 21:53:20 <kakobrekla>	Ukto at least 1 month or else its not worth setting up
Dec 06 21:53:27 <Ukto>	ah
Dec 06 21:54:18 <dub>	if you could do it without remote I have some decent stuff
Dec 06 21:54:34 <dub>	can't really risk opening it up though
Dec 06 21:55:06 <kakobrekla>	humm
Dec 06 21:55:13 <kakobrekla>	i need winblows
Dec 06 21:55:19 <dub>	oh
Dec 06 21:55:20 <kakobrekla>	unfortunatley
Dec 06 22:01:16 <dub>	some decent boxen lying around for gbit+ capture processing but linsux
Dec 06 22:01:33 <kakobrekla>	run a VM
Dec 06 22:03:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005213 = 2.2525 BTC [+]
Dec 06 22:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9742 @ 0.00052112 = 5.0768 BTC [-]
Dec 06 22:03:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20837 @ 0.00052029 = 10.8413 BTC [-]
Dec 06 22:06:59 <Diablo-D3>	http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129461.0
Dec 06 22:07:01 <Diablo-D3>	_the fuck_
Dec 06 22:08:04 <Ukto>	ya
Dec 06 22:10:51 <dub>	lolwat corp firewall blocked it
Dec 06 22:11:08 <Diablo-D3>	dub: bitcoin bank registered in europe
Dec 06 22:11:30 <dub>	trend micro says its a disease vector!
Dec 06 22:11:45 <Diablo-D3>	your mom is a... nah, too easy
Dec 06 22:11:46 <dub>	its official, bitcointalk has GRIDS
Dec 06 22:13:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3360 @ 0.00329625 = 11.0754 BTC [-]
Dec 06 22:13:47 <dub>	this is new in the last hour or so
Dec 06 22:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052056 = 2.2493 BTC [+]
Dec 06 22:19:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8371 @ 0.00052029 = 4.3553 BTC [-]
Dec 06 22:22:39 <Ukto>	... grids?
Dec 06 22:22:43 <Ukto>	do I even want to know? :P
Dec 06 22:23:12 <Ukto>	sound contagious
Dec 06 22:23:15 <Ukto>	souns*
Dec 06 22:23:18 <Ukto>	fgdfgd n/m
Dec 06 22:27:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14696 @ 0.0005195 = 7.6346 BTC [-]
Dec 06 22:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4754 @ 0.00052158 = 2.4796 BTC [+]
Dec 06 22:30:34 <dub>	Gay Related Immune Deficiency Syndrome
Dec 06 22:31:32 <dub>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay-related_immune_deficiency
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Dec 06 23:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00051509 = 5.0736 BTC [-]
Dec 06 23:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00051463 = 9.0832 BTC [-]
Dec 06 23:03:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.0005099 = 14.7871 BTC [-]
Dec 06 23:03:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00050903 = 2.4433 BTC [-]
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Dec 06 23:25:39 <smickles>	mpoe-pr has obviously been playing the original prince of persia https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129461.msg1382730#msg1382730
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Dec 06 23:26:05 <jcpham>	mpoe-pr desperately wants to be chamber slave
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Dec 06 23:26:10 <jcpham>	*my
Dec 06 23:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00052038 = 5.1257 BTC [+]
Dec 06 23:33:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052136 = 2.2528 BTC [+]
Dec 06 23:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2413 @ 0.00052158 = 1.2586 BTC [+]
Dec 06 23:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11266 @ 0.00052292 = 5.8912 BTC [+]
Dec 06 23:34:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050934 = 2.2009 BTC [-]
Dec 06 23:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18707 @ 0.00050903 = 9.5224 BTC [-]
Dec 06 23:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1366 @ 0.00050903 = 0.6953 BTC [-]
Dec 06 23:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00050852 = 2.746 BTC [-]
Dec 06 23:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00050709 = 8.6205 BTC [-]
Dec 06 23:38:22 <smickles>	oh sweet baby jesus
Dec 06 23:38:23 <pigeons>	https://btct.co/security/COGNITIVE
Dec 06 23:39:11 <smickles>	assuming icbit is legit (and why shouldn't we) i've doubled my buyin so far
Dec 06 23:41:20 <Ukto>	smickles: icbit?
Dec 06 23:41:31 <Ukto>	doubled buying into what ?
Dec 06 23:41:36 <smickles>	futures
Dec 06 23:42:04 <Ukto>	that all just looks like a bad ide from my pov :/
Dec 06 23:42:34 <smickles>	well, if it's not legit, i think it takes out tycho with it
Dec 06 23:42:45 <Ukto>	could just be my lack of understanding
Dec 06 23:43:38 <smickles>	Ukto: it's probably not as bad as bitcoinica. futures are a traditional instrument, and they offer futrues which pretty much adhere to the formula
Dec 06 23:43:50 <Ukto>	ah
Dec 06 23:45:01 <smickles>	the major risks, imo, are someone with a lot of money stepping in and fucking with the market, or the op scamming in one way or another
Dec 06 23:45:13 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 06 23:45:16 <Ukto>	with the way bitcoin goes
Dec 06 23:45:25 <Ukto>	I only stick to transparent things
Dec 06 23:45:49 <Ukto>	thats why I try to make all my things as transparent as possible
Dec 06 23:46:22 <smickles>	well, the operator of deepbit putting his rep on the line isn't meaningless
Dec 06 23:46:46 <Ukto>	wasnt meaning that it was hehe :)
Dec 06 23:47:33 <smickles>	heh, well, in my view, it's still quite a good day at the casino
Dec 06 23:47:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052285 = 2.2592 BTC [+]
Dec 06 23:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6245 @ 0.00052292 = 3.2656 BTC [+]
Dec 06 23:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7534 @ 0.000526 = 3.9629 BTC [+]
Dec 06 23:48:26 <Ukto>	thats good then. :)
Dec 06 23:48:50 <Ukto>	Now that BF is up, I am waiting until any other issuers join in before I do too much more work on it
Dec 06 23:48:58 <Ukto>	so I am working  abit on HP and weex atm
Dec 06 23:49:22 <jcpham>	i'm sharpening my axe
Dec 06 23:49:40 *	Ukto hides
Dec 06 23:49:51 <Ukto>	wasnt me! MP did it!
Dec 06 23:50:08 <Ukto>	oddly enough, I havent seen him today
Dec 06 23:53:06 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Dec 06 23:53:36 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: didnt you have assets on glbse?
Dec 06 23:54:00 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: what are you talking about?
Dec 06 23:54:11 <Diablo-D3>	nm, I thought you did
Dec 06 23:54:32 <smickles>	no srsly, your question was ambiguous
Dec 06 23:54:44 <Diablo-D3>	assets on glbse, didnt you have some?
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Dec 06 23:55:05 <smickles>	do you mean as an issuer?
Dec 06 23:55:08 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Dec 06 23:55:11 <smickles>	yeah
Dec 06 23:55:17 <Diablo-D3>	who are you switching to?
Dec 06 23:56:08 <smickles>	noone, mpoe.etf was shutting down when glbse went off, and s2cm had started winding down when nef made his london speach
Dec 06 23:56:16 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Dec 06 23:56:22 <Diablo-D3>	do any of the exchanges look legit to you?
Dec 06 23:56:33 <smickles>	not as an american
Dec 06 23:56:39 <Diablo-D3>	meh
Dec 06 23:56:49 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 06 23:56:51 <Diablo-D3>	all I want to do is shut dmc down over the next few months
Dec 06 23:57:08 <smickles>	you don't need an exchange for that
Dec 06 23:57:18 <Diablo-D3>	yeah I do if I intend to buy them back at market prices
Dec 06 23:57:39 <smickles>	what's the exchange for then?
Dec 06 23:58:00 <Ukto>	heh, re-create market, to let a market price stabalize, and then buy?
Dec 06 23:58:06 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: basically
Dec 06 23:58:16 <Ukto>	glbse has been off for about 2 months
Dec 06 23:58:23 <Ukto>	and that could make for a massive vlaue swing
Dec 06 23:58:26 <Ukto>	esp. with halfreward
Dec 06 23:58:30 <Ukto>	and asic's comming out
Dec 06 23:58:34 <Ukto>	value*
Dec 06 23:58:51 <Ukto>	by how much, and which way, a market would need to re-establish "market price"
Dec 06 23:58:58 <Ukto>	or you could just say screw it and force a price down ppls throats
Dec 06 23:59:04 <smickles>	heh, dmc value should do nothing but drop over the coming months
Dec 06 23:59:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051776 = 2.2372 BTC [-]
Dec 06 23:59:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00051767 = 0.8692 BTC [-]
Dec 06 23:59:34 *	Ukto isnt trying to justify, just explaining in detail, I think, what he is trying to do
Dec 07 00:00:02 <Diablo-D3>	ukto: I could force a price down people's throats without letting the market set it
Dec 07 00:00:04 <Ukto>	and making sure I understand too lol
Dec 07 00:00:13 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: probably. we have zero income now.
Dec 07 00:01:17 <smickles>	holy fuck! http://i.imgur.com/3MqFl.png
Dec 07 00:02:01 <smickles>	jeeze, 22486 btc total profit
Dec 07 00:02:12 <Ukto>	for what ?
Dec 07 00:02:33 <Ukto>	a year old tho
Dec 07 00:02:49 <Ukto>	*stares at the dates*
Dec 07 00:03:01 <smickles>	Ukto: yeah, but that's a couple kbtc in a few days
Dec 07 00:03:19 <Ukto>	from what tho ?
Dec 07 00:03:32 <smickles>	what else, satoshiDICE
Dec 07 00:03:41 <Ukto>	wow
Dec 07 00:03:55 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1382559#msg1382559
Dec 07 00:03:59 <smickles>	source ^
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Dec 07 00:04:20 <smickles>	it keeps this up and it'll be another >1% monthly dividend
Dec 07 00:04:32 <smickles>	b/t 15% and 20% annualized
Dec 07 00:05:21 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Dec 07 00:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00051767 = 1.1906 BTC [-]
Dec 07 00:08:03 <smickles>	it's hard to believe they are showing a 10kbtc _profit_ so far this month
Dec 07 00:08:05 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Dec 07 00:08:13 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder why
Dec 07 00:08:23 <Rothgar>	who?
Dec 07 00:08:31 <smickles>	Rothgar: satoshidice
Dec 07 00:08:31 <Diablo-D3>	that seems insane
Dec 07 00:08:40 <Rothgar>	great!
Dec 07 00:09:14 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: it's all out on the blockchain, dooglus compiling the statistics which i'm looking at. maybe dooglus is in on it
Dec 07 00:09:49 <smickles>	;;calc 10000*[ticker --last]]
Dec 07 00:09:51 <smickles>	;;calc 10000*[ticker --last]
Dec 07 00:09:54 <gribble>	Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
Dec 07 00:09:55 <gribble>	133499
Dec 07 00:10:14 <smickles>	;;calc 133499*.9
Dec 07 00:10:14 <gribble>	120149.1
Dec 07 00:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1971 @ 0.00051767 = 1.0203 BTC [-]
Dec 07 00:10:58 <Rothgar>	;;ident smickles
Dec 07 00:10:58 <gribble>	Nick 'smickles', with hostmask 'smickles!~smickles@199.48.69.252', is identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
Dec 07 00:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20229 @ 0.00051073 = 10.3316 BTC [-]
Dec 07 00:14:10 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: it still seems insane
Dec 07 00:14:16 <Diablo-D3>	but I was thinking more like someones bot is broke
Dec 07 00:17:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 297 @ 0.00332425 = 0.9873 BTC [+]
Dec 07 00:17:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 14 @ 0.00335242 = 0.0469 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 00:41:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00051827 = 3.9907 BTC [+]
Dec 07 00:41:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052568 = 2.2715 BTC [+]
Dec 07 00:41:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5316 @ 0.000526 = 2.7962 BTC [+]
Dec 07 00:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00052634 = 2.158 BTC [+]
Dec 07 00:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13008 @ 0.00052773 = 6.8647 BTC [+]
Dec 07 00:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11594 @ 0.00052775 = 6.1187 BTC [+]
Dec 07 00:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3987 @ 0.00052843 = 2.1069 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 01:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052255 = 2.2579 BTC [-]
Dec 07 01:33:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16758 @ 0.00052265 = 8.7586 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 01:44:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052472 = 2.2673 BTC [+]
Dec 07 01:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25637 @ 0.00052507 = 13.4612 BTC [+]
Dec 07 01:45:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2523 @ 0.00052843 = 1.3332 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 01:52:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5111 @ 0.00052843 = 2.7008 BTC [+]
Dec 07 01:52:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4189 @ 0.00052922 = 2.2169 BTC [+]
Dec 07 01:52:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00052935 = 1.7469 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 02:31:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00052276 = 0.7841 BTC [-]
Dec 07 02:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00052935 = 4.076 BTC [+]
Dec 07 02:32:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00052939 = 7.3585 BTC [+]
Dec 07 02:42:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.00052276 = 0.1678 BTC [-]
Dec 07 02:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2479 @ 0.00051343 = 1.2728 BTC [-]
Dec 07 02:45:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 440 @ 0.00335242 = 1.4751 BTC [+]
Dec 07 02:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1842 @ 0.00051343 = 0.9457 BTC [-]
Dec 07 02:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20732 @ 0.00051325 = 10.6407 BTC [-]
Dec 07 03:03:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00052923 = 2.1963 BTC [+]
Dec 07 03:04:34 <Diablo-D3>	man
Dec 07 03:04:40 <Diablo-D3>	I should get some sort of award manufactured
Dec 07 03:04:54 <Diablo-D3>	some sort of giant gold plated popped popcorn kernel
Dec 07 03:05:02 <Ukto>	?
Dec 07 03:05:10 <Diablo-D3>	so I can hand it to BFL
Dec 07 03:05:16 <Ukto>	whut they do now ?
Dec 07 03:05:23 <Diablo-D3>	not ship.
Dec 07 03:05:25 <Diablo-D3>	and lie.
Dec 07 03:05:29 <Diablo-D3>	and then not ship again
Dec 07 03:05:32 <Diablo-D3>	and then more lying
Dec 07 03:05:36 <Diablo-D3>	and then lying about the lying
Dec 07 03:05:37 <Ukto>	wasnt that last time too?
Dec 07 03:05:40 <Diablo-D3>	and then not shipping again
Dec 07 03:05:52 <Diablo-D3>	and lying about the continued state of lying and shippingness
Dec 07 03:05:57 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 07 03:06:04 <Ukto>	u sound mad :P
Dec 07 03:06:12 <Ukto>	not sure why. as if they lied.. and didnt ship
Dec 07 03:06:12 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 07 03:06:29 <Diablo-D3>	oh Im not mad
Dec 07 03:06:33 <Diablo-D3>	infact I find the whole thing hilarious
Dec 07 03:06:37 <Diablo-D3>	I told people not to buy from BFL
Dec 07 03:06:49 <Diablo-D3>	Im the only voice of reason most of the time
Dec 07 03:06:51 <Diablo-D3>	people ignored me
Dec 07 03:07:04 <Diablo-D3>	so all I get to do is laugh
Dec 07 03:08:57 <Ukto>	hehe
Dec 07 03:09:11 <Ukto>	i couldnt make the kidna risk that bfl required
Dec 07 03:09:40 <Ukto>	?? timeframe
Dec 07 03:09:44 <Ukto>	to ??? get your product
Dec 07 03:11:51 <Namjies>	Arf
Dec 07 03:12:38 <Namjies>	Making manual payments to BTC-BOND/KRAKEN holders for the last weeks and repurchase.
Dec 07 03:12:42 <Namjies>	Damn.
Dec 07 03:13:33 <Namjies>	Got to send them a customized email stating from which address I sent it so they know it's from me and for what since GLBSE payout address is shared.
Dec 07 03:13:50 <Namjies>	As well as remove them from the mailing list and update spreadsheets.
Dec 07 03:14:04 <Namjies>	On top of calculating what to pay to each of them.
Dec 07 03:14:12 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 07 03:14:18 <Ukto>	thats why a claim system is nicer
Dec 07 03:14:24 <Ukto>	even if your shutting down
Dec 07 03:14:30 <Namjies>	Major pain and error prone.
Dec 07 03:14:37 <Namjies>	It's not too bad either.
Dec 07 03:14:46 <Ukto>	>,> .. just being honest, not necessarily plugging
Dec 07 03:15:15 <Namjies>	I use a spreadsheet to track claims against the list. Once people confirm, I consider shares claimed.
Dec 07 03:15:59 <Ukto>	great thing about the claim system, is when you pay divvies, it pays them out to holders, and to claims pending
Dec 07 03:16:15 <Ukto>	so you dont have to track divs for unclaimed shares
Dec 07 03:16:25 <Ukto>	but you can go in and update/change it at any time
Dec 07 03:16:38 <Ukto>	"manage" the claims even
Dec 07 03:16:50 <Namjies>	A bit too late for that.
Dec 07 03:16:51 <Ukto>	so if you buy someone out, you can just mark a claim as claimed and close it
Dec 07 03:17:01 *	Ukto shrugs, just saying :)
Dec 07 03:18:27 <Ukto>	if I can help someone out, thats the idea. off of something thats just being shut down I dont make anything.
Dec 07 03:18:35 <Ukto>	Would just rather see the site be usefull in someway to someone
Dec 07 03:18:44 <Namjies>	I only hope one thing... that google drive doesn't fail me and lose the spreadsheets
Dec 07 03:18:57 <Ukto>	shouldnt.. backup just in case
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Dec 07 03:19:08 <Namjies>	I'd have to track back all paid out people from payments I sent out.
Dec 07 03:19:36 <Namjies>	I already have google drive program backing to my PC.
Dec 07 03:20:39 <Namjies>	Should be fine and at worst, I can see all the payments in the blockchain sent from my personal address.
Dec 07 03:20:59 <Ukto>	just keep a copy iand you wont have to worry abou tit
Dec 07 03:21:56 <Namjies>	Too much work, I'd have to make a copy whenever I update the spreadsheets.
Dec 07 03:22:23 <Namjies>	There's already the payment sent out on the blockchain as fallback data.
Dec 07 03:22:54 <Namjies>	My BTC address and GLBSE associated address are easy to check for transactions.
Dec 07 03:23:54 <Diablo-D3>	>google drive
Dec 07 03:23:55 <Diablo-D3>	>fail
Dec 07 03:23:57 <Diablo-D3>	quat?
Dec 07 03:25:17 <Namjies>	You never know when the 1 every 10 year total failure in a Google service might occur.
Dec 07 03:25:41 <Namjies>	But yes, unlikely.
Dec 07 03:26:45 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: no,
Dec 07 03:26:48 <Diablo-D3>	it fails all the time
Dec 07 03:26:57 <Diablo-D3>	they just have content on multiple continents concurrently
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Dec 07 03:28:16 <Namjies>	If the redundancy works, it's not a failure...
Dec 07 03:28:36 <Namjies>	Which is the whole point of redundant systems...
Dec 07 03:30:01 <Diablo-D3>	you missed the point
Dec 07 03:30:19 <Namjies>	Which is?
Dec 07 03:30:37 <Diablo-D3>	failures happen all the time, its how they ahndles it that matters
Dec 07 03:31:25 <Namjies>	Yes, failure of specific hardware. But the system as a whole keeps functioning and as such didn't fail.
Dec 07 03:37:32 <Namjies>	Well damn. A good chunk done.
Dec 07 03:37:52 <Ukto>	nite
Dec 07 03:38:04 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow so
Dec 07 03:38:07 <Diablo-D3>	I now have two lists for DMC
Dec 07 03:38:11 <Diablo-D3>	I should write a perl script to process these
Dec 07 03:38:34 <Diablo-D3>	but the whole thing of opening an editor just to put like 3 lines in it? meh
Dec 07 03:39:32 <Namjies>	I just copy-paste address, email, shares
Dec 07 03:39:37 <Namjies>	into my spreadsheet
Dec 07 03:39:55 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, fuck spreadsheets
Dec 07 03:40:01 <Diablo-D3>	I just wanna see the accuracy of his statements
Dec 07 03:58:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9964 @ 0.00051825 = 5.1638 BTC [-]
Dec 07 03:58:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171 @ 0.00052923 = 0.0905 BTC [+]
Dec 07 03:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00052939 = 2.3558 BTC [+]
Dec 07 03:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7607 @ 0.00052942 = 4.0273 BTC [+]
Dec 07 03:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4008 @ 0.00052943 = 2.122 BTC [+]
Dec 07 04:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	<Diablo-D3> and lying about the continued state of lying and shippingness <<< theyre the bitcoin flagship corp, neh ?
Dec 07 04:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies having fun i see.
Dec 07 04:04:05 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: something like that
Dec 07 04:07:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16520 @ 0.00052943 = 8.7462 BTC [+]
Dec 07 04:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9843 @ 0.00052951 = 5.212 BTC [+]
Dec 07 04:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1363 @ 0.00335242 = 4.5693 BTC [+]
Dec 07 04:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2487 @ 0.00335868 = 8.353 BTC [+]
Dec 07 04:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3257 @ 0.00052951 = 1.7246 BTC [+]
Dec 07 04:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29843 @ 0.00052955 = 15.8034 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 04:51:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051642 = 2.2315 BTC [-]
Dec 07 04:51:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16179 @ 0.00051629 = 8.3531 BTC [-]
Dec 07 05:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	btw, everyone knows http://oeis.org/ ?
Dec 07 05:07:27 <mircea_popescu>	database of integer sequences
Dec 07 05:07:51 <Diablo-D3>	yeah what about it
Dec 07 05:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	juuust sayin.
Dec 07 05:12:33 <dub>	why for?
Dec 07 05:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	for i got lost reading in there for about an hour, that' for!
Dec 07 05:14:45 <dub>	oh
Dec 07 05:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051638 = 2.2313 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7425 @ 0.00051629 = 3.8335 BTC [-]
Dec 07 05:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22353 @ 0.00051528 = 11.5181 BTC [-]
Dec 07 05:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052931 = 2.2871 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2907 @ 0.00052955 = 1.5394 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8925 @ 0.0005298 = 4.7285 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00052988 = 15.8964 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00052989 = 9.75 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00053009 = 15.1606 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.0005301 = 14.8958 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00053013 = 9.8074 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00053022 = 5.7794 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20388 @ 0.00053023 = 10.8103 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00053027 = 10.3138 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0005303 = 1.3788 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17831 @ 0.00053033 = 9.4563 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00053052 = 1.3794 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00053053 = 14.8018 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00053062 = 7.4817 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00053078 = 2.6539 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11991 @ 0.00053086 = 6.3655 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29556 @ 0.00053087 = 15.6904 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17684 @ 0.00053093 = 9.389 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11220 @ 0.00053094 = 5.9571 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31459 @ 0.00053102 = 16.7054 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12258 @ 0.00053118 = 6.5112 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44922 @ 0.00053122 = 23.8635 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00053127 = 4.6752 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:19:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46588 @ 0.00053134 = 24.7541 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:22:28 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/07/japan-earthquake-2012_n_2255699.html
Dec 07 05:24:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.16798544 = 167.9854 BTC [-]
Dec 07 05:25:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.13806513 = 138.0651 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1000 @ 0.10442777 = 104.4278 BTC [+]
Dec 07 05:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	what, the peak is in ?!
Dec 07 05:29:28 <Namjies>	No idea but that seems like a bad move to me
Dec 07 05:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Dec 07 05:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	if it ends up over 16 those c140t lose money for sure.
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Dec 07 06:09:27 <Diablo-D3>	http://imgur.com/r/WTF/f4DMU
Dec 07 06:13:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052717 = 2.2779 BTC [-]
Dec 07 06:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10529 @ 0.000527 = 5.5488 BTC [-]
Dec 07 06:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052724 = 2.2782 BTC [+]
Dec 07 06:17:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13979 @ 0.000527 = 7.3669 BTC [-]
Dec 07 06:32:27 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Im14andthisisWTF/?count=25&after=t3_13s6oy
Dec 07 06:32:31 <Diablo-D3>	er
Dec 07 06:32:32 <Diablo-D3>	wrong ur
Dec 07 06:32:36 <Diablo-D3>	http://i.imgur.com/rzIzI.jpg
Dec 07 06:32:47 <Diablo-D3>	I found mircea_popescu's mouse
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Dec 07 06:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.000527 = 1.1594 BTC [-]
Dec 07 06:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 07 06:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053111 = 2.2949 BTC [+]
Dec 07 06:52:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4629 @ 0.00053134 = 2.4596 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 07:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052734 = 2.2786 BTC [-]
Dec 07 07:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2467 @ 0.000527 = 1.3001 BTC [-]
Dec 07 07:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15382 @ 0.000527 = 8.1063 BTC [-]
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Dec 07 07:59:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00053125 = 1.4344 BTC [+]
Dec 07 08:00:55 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: now he knows where the clit is ... lol
Dec 07 08:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1621 @ 0.00053125 = 0.8612 BTC [+]
Dec 07 08:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3283 @ 0.00053134 = 1.7444 BTC [+]
Dec 07 08:01:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00053142 = 5.3142 BTC [+]
Dec 07 08:01:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6846 @ 0.00053173 = 3.6402 BTC [+]
Dec 07 08:02:57 <EskimoBob>	I was reading this drama "F.GIGA.ETF to be delisted on December 1st, 2012". mircea_popescu, looks like you pulled a glbse trick on your clients.
Dec 07 08:03:07 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: how does it feel to mimic your greatest "enemy" :)
Dec 07 08:04:47 <Diablo-D3>	HE CANT HEAR YOU OVER HOW BLOATED HIS WALLET IS
Dec 07 08:05:37 <EskimoBob>	wallet? I think it's his head, that's bloated.
Dec 07 08:10:16 <EskimoBob>	here we go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.0
Dec 07 08:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053163 = 2.2972 BTC [-]
Dec 07 08:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12629 @ 0.00053173 = 6.7152 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 08:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053019 = 2.291 BTC [-]
Dec 07 08:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00053016 = 7.0511 BTC [-]
Dec 07 08:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053051 = 2.2923 BTC [+]
Dec 07 08:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11829 @ 0.00053016 = 6.2713 BTC [-]
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Dec 07 09:51:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053152 = 2.2967 BTC [+]
Dec 07 09:51:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 925 @ 0.00053173 = 0.4919 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 10:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00331829 = 11.614 BTC [-]
Dec 07 10:19:30 <PsychoticBoy>	Good afternoon
Dec 07 10:20:06 <Rothgar>	good evening
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Dec 07 10:35:33 <jurov>	morning
Dec 07 10:35:43 <kakobrekla>	moaning
Dec 07 10:43:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053097 = 2.2943 BTC [-]
Dec 07 10:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25879 @ 0.00053102 = 13.7423 BTC [+]
Dec 07 10:43:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 650 @ 0.00053173 = 0.3456 BTC [+]
Dec 07 10:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00053173 = 8.6672 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 10:47:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053036 = 2.2917 BTC [-]
Dec 07 10:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 579 @ 0.00053016 = 0.307 BTC [-]
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Dec 07 10:52:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053171 = 2.2975 BTC [+]
Dec 07 10:52:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12079 @ 0.00053173 = 6.4228 BTC [+]
Dec 07 10:52:50 <PsychoticBoy>	JWU42, how do you compensate shareholders, buyback at 0.06 is reasonable
Dec 07 10:53:38 <PsychoticBoy>	or is that shitty I dont want to pay back shareholders idea comming from your scammy partners
Dec 07 10:54:01 <PsychoticBoy>	hashking and harnett, both Massive SCAMMERS
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Dec 07 10:54:27 <jcpham>	PsychoticBoy: JWU42 contacted me to remind me of my shares
Dec 07 10:54:30 <PsychoticBoy>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75867.msg1384557#msg1384557
Dec 07 10:54:45 <PsychoticBoy>	he also contacted me
Dec 07 10:55:08 <PsychoticBoy>	but never said anything abot buyback or dividend which both must be paid
Dec 07 10:57:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053019 = 2.291 BTC [-]
Dec 07 10:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4442 @ 0.00053016 = 2.355 BTC [-]
Dec 07 10:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24621 @ 0.0005286 = 13.0147 BTC [-]
Dec 07 10:57:27 <PsychoticBoy>	I got the idea that most BIG glbse players such as YABMC (JWU42 and scammy friends) and GIGAMINING (gigavps) do not intent to pay
Dec 07 10:58:48 <PsychoticBoy>	and they were the ones cashing in big time, our money
Dec 07 10:59:32 <jcpham>	it's pretty easy to point at other people and call them scammers after you give them your bitcoins
Dec 07 10:59:38 <jcpham>	i've noticed this
Dec 07 11:00:14 <jcpham>	resolving the matter privately, amicably; that's difficult
Dec 07 11:00:34 <PsychoticBoy>	I own 3 companies on GLBSE
Dec 07 11:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052871 = 2.2846 BTC [+]
Dec 07 11:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 279 @ 0.0005286 = 0.1475 BTC [-]
Dec 07 11:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00052717 = 3.2948 BTC [-]
Dec 07 11:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21965 @ 0.000527 = 11.5756 BTC [-]
Dec 07 11:01:28 <PsychoticBoy>	2 are continuing on another exchange and 1 has a good buyback so....... this is not difficult to deal with
Dec 07 11:10:51 <EskimoBob>	so, gigavps has earned his scammer tag finally?
Dec 07 11:11:03 <gigavps>	lol
Dec 07 11:11:29 <jcpham>	damn giga you scammin still?
Dec 07 11:11:29 <Azelphur>	gigascammer, one billion scams :p
Dec 07 11:11:57 <jcpham>	gigavps these gpus I bought a year ago were not as described
Dec 07 11:12:00 <jcpham>	i need a refund
Dec 07 11:12:12 <gigavps>	no problem jcpham, talk with my lawyer
Dec 07 11:12:23 <jcpham>	ugh
Dec 07 11:12:34 <jcpham>	we aren't friends anymore
Dec 07 11:12:37 <jcpham>	stop talking to me
Dec 07 11:12:38 <EskimoBob>	who is your lawyer? What's his name?
Dec 07 11:13:07 <gigavps>	EskimoBob, for someone who is on the internet a lot, you sure have trouble finding information
Dec 07 11:13:15 <EskimoBob>	what's your name? Mister "all so fkn legal" now
Dec 07 11:13:28 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: is it possible, that I have better thing to do?
Dec 07 11:13:39 <jcpham>	I know his names
Dec 07 11:13:42 <gigavps>	guess not, your sitting here talking with me
Dec 07 11:13:43 <jcpham>	10btc
Dec 07 11:13:48 <EskimoBob>	than dox your hairy scammer ass...
Dec 07 11:13:49 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Dec 07 11:13:52 <jcpham>	10btc I spill all the beans
Dec 07 11:13:59 <gigavps>	it's not hard to dox me
Dec 07 11:14:04 <jcpham>	I'll tell you what I know about trendon too
Dec 07 11:14:09 <jcpham>	and azelphur
Dec 07 11:14:14 <jcpham>	he's a cohort
Dec 07 11:14:46 <EskimoBob>	looks like mircea has pulled a "glbse" on his super duper exchange and fucked all the pt holders
Dec 07 11:15:31 <EskimoBob>	was'nt he establishing some type of a court or some other shit for justice?
Dec 07 11:15:58 <jcpham>	yep
Dec 07 11:16:03 <EskimoBob>	can he be the first client of his own court? LOL
Dec 07 11:16:03 <jcpham>	and i'm the guy
Dec 07 11:16:11 <EskimoBob>	what guy?
Dec 07 11:16:11 <jcpham>	i'm judge number 1
Dec 07 11:16:23 <EskimoBob>	so you are scammer too?
Dec 07 11:16:23 <jcpham>	so let's all be nice
Dec 07 11:16:44 <jurov>	what "glbse"? weren't you warned well in advance?
Dec 07 11:17:01 <Ukto>	ohai EskimoBob :P
Dec 07 11:17:23 <EskimoBob>	fuck your toy court and every ass hat judge there :) LOL
Dec 07 11:17:26 <Ukto>	I saw your posts on the forums (just recently started looking at them) and knew I recognized it
Dec 07 11:17:36 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: hola Ukto
Dec 07 11:18:00 <gigavps>	EskimoBob has a special language he uses when posting on the forums
Dec 07 11:18:04 <EskimoBob>	what post?  the left one or the one on the right side?
Dec 07 11:18:14 <Ukto>	any of them lol
Dec 07 11:18:15 <jcpham>	you can call me an asshat, but calling it a toy-court and implting that i'm not impartial is incorrect
Dec 07 11:18:22 <jcpham>	you should know your place EskimoBob
Dec 07 11:18:25 <gigavps>	it's a mix between angry and incoherent
Dec 07 11:18:31 <Ukto>	the mods whitelisted me.. but I still cant post for some reason. lol
Dec 07 11:18:33 <pigeons>	respect my authorital!
Dec 07 11:18:33 <Ukto>	I can pm ppl at least
Dec 07 11:18:38 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: know my place? LOL
Dec 07 11:18:42 <EskimoBob>	look who's talking
Dec 07 11:18:47 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: you know where you live?
Dec 07 11:18:49 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 07 11:18:57 <jcpham>	hugs
Dec 07 11:18:57 *	Ukto hands EskimoBob an igloo
Dec 07 11:18:58 <EskimoBob>	yes I do know where I live
Dec 07 11:19:09 <Ukto>	then you know your place? :P
Dec 07 11:19:16 <EskimoBob>	the land of snow and ice
Dec 07 11:19:17 <jcpham>	i know my place well
Dec 07 11:19:25 *	Ukto knows his.
Dec 07 11:19:29 *	Ukto points to teh forums. NOT THERE
Dec 07 11:19:29 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 07 11:20:17 <EskimoBob>	so how is this toy court going to work?
Dec 07 11:20:24 <jcpham>	fuck if i know
Dec 07 11:20:48 <jcpham>	i imagine with mircea_popescu though stripper will be involvewd
Dec 07 11:21:04 <Ukto>	ROFLOL
Dec 07 11:21:07 <Ukto>	man
Dec 07 11:21:17 <Ukto>	thats 2 diff ppl making an MP + stripper reference around me in 24hrs
Dec 07 11:21:18 <EskimoBob>	so it's just another virtual circle jerk?
Dec 07 11:21:49 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: you see, mircea is old and ugly and only way he gets any is if he pays
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Dec 07 11:22:07 <EskimoBob>	forget the old part
Dec 07 11:22:12 <jcpham>	you see, I don't know, so I'm just joking around
Dec 07 11:22:21 <jcpham>	like i don't have some fucking attitude problem
Dec 07 11:22:27 <jcpham>	like other people
Dec 07 11:22:35 <EskimoBob>	hwo do you know that?
Dec 07 11:22:41 <EskimoBob>	how*
Dec 07 11:22:43 <jcpham>	i hope you die
Dec 07 11:22:44 <Ukto>	although, I was reading hte post guruvan vs mpoe-pr... reeses made a point that if a normal stock was delisted, its value is generally trashed for the reason it was delisted.. but in this case.. the stock/s were not "delisted" for reasons of financial stability.. thus, if a stock like AAPL (exmaple) were delistd due to the xchange shutting down, it still has value, right?
Dec 07 11:22:56 <EskimoBob>	you see, you do have a problem :)
Dec 07 11:23:01 <jcpham>	i didn't
Dec 07 11:23:04 <jcpham>	:)
Dec 07 11:23:16 *	Ukto gives outt rainbows and hugs :P
Dec 07 11:23:42 <jcpham>	i saw a triple rainbow
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Dec 07 11:23:51 <pigeons>	why do birds suddenly appear, evertime you are near
Dec 07 11:24:12 <EskimoBob>	triple? damn I have seen this only once
Dec 07 11:24:32 <jurov>	if f.giga.etf is supposed to have some value, why nobody asked mircea to arrange buyback on december 1st?
Dec 07 11:24:50 <jcpham>	https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/381684_3379379022419_161806938_n.jpg
Dec 07 11:24:50 <pigeons>	well namjies did
Dec 07 11:24:58 <jcpham>	go home rainbow, you are drunk
Dec 07 11:25:07 <Ukto>	jurov: as of now, MP is of the opionion it has no value
Dec 07 11:25:10 <Ukto>	since it was delisted
Dec 07 11:25:15 <Ukto>	regardless of the reason for delisting
Dec 07 11:25:36 <jcpham>	what exactly was f.giga.etf
Dec 07 11:25:39 <Ukto>	and he doesnt believe he should have to submit his claim to gigavps, thus will not
Dec 07 11:25:44 <Ukto>	was apassthrough
Dec 07 11:25:45 <jcpham>	who was the asset issuer, step one
Dec 07 11:25:48 <Ukto>	of giga from GLBSE
Dec 07 11:25:52 <Ukto>	by MP
Dec 07 11:25:55 <EskimoBob>	delisted usually never equals "no value"
Dec 07 11:26:03 <Ukto>	he bought shares of giga from giga direct? or on glbse
Dec 07 11:26:07 <Ukto>	and re-posted them on Mpex
Dec 07 11:26:12 <jcpham>	so MP was the asset issuer of f.giga.etf
Dec 07 11:26:14 <Ukto>	as re-issuer
Dec 07 11:26:15 <Ukto>	yes
Dec 07 11:26:23 <jcpham>	and what was the function of it
Dec 07 11:26:29 <pigeons>	passthrough
Dec 07 11:26:35 <jcpham>	to glbse?
Dec 07 11:26:37 <pigeons>	yes
Dec 07 11:26:38 <EskimoBob>	sold this shit to others and now tells everyone, it has no value (and deletes the security) :)
Dec 07 11:26:42 <jcpham>	WTF
Dec 07 11:26:48 <EskimoBob>	hold on, i have seen this before! GLBSE!
Dec 07 11:26:48 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 07 11:26:50 <jcpham>	you guys are all scandalous
Dec 07 11:26:52 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 07 11:26:56 <Ukto>	not me
Dec 07 11:27:02 <EskimoBob>	no me
Dec 07 11:27:02 <Ukto>	I have only stated non scanalous things
Dec 07 11:27:04 <Ukto>	and made comments
Dec 07 11:27:07 <Ukto>	that MIGHT be
Dec 07 11:27:08 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 07 11:27:10 <EskimoBob>	me too
Dec 07 11:27:18 <EskimoBob>	only facts
Dec 07 11:27:56 <Ukto>	I am just trying to est. real world happenings vs "financially uneducated" as "mpoe-pr" is calling everyone
Dec 07 11:28:21 <EskimoBob>	mpoe-pr is lunatic and a spammer
Dec 07 11:28:35 <jcpham>	i like her boobs
Dec 07 11:28:41 <Ukto>	A. MP/OE states that stocks were delisted from glbse, and therefore worthless. Thats the real financial market. However, if NYSE shuts down, MSFT shares are not worthless.
Dec 07 11:29:06 <Ukto>	B. Acting as a passthrough for shares to giga, means to buy/sell, and claim when need be.
Dec 07 11:29:09 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: she is a not as smatr as she thinks.
Dec 07 11:29:31 <Ukto>	though I guess no where MP laid out any responsibilities to do such
Dec 07 11:29:34 <jcpham>	well it seems to me that f.giga.etf totally depends on data from glbse
Dec 07 11:29:44 <jcpham>	measured, tracked, statistical data
Dec 07 11:29:47 <EskimoBob>	ans she has some serious attitude problems. She ws involved in some spamming scams etc
Dec 07 11:29:49 <Ukto>	so it oculd fall on the shareholders shoulders for not requiring a "detailed contract" from MP of responsibilities
Dec 07 11:29:54 <jcpham>	which doesn't exist or may not
Dec 07 11:30:14 <Ukto>	gigavps: was your asset backed by hardware ?
Dec 07 11:30:22 <Ukto>	i could look it up but I think your here  :P
Dec 07 11:30:28 <pigeons>	well it was backed by hashes
Dec 07 11:30:54 <Ukto>	pigeons: some ppl say that worst case scenario the would sell hardware to take care of shareholders, since thats where the btc was spent
Dec 07 11:31:21 <pigeons>	the contract was you get the proceeds of 5 mhash per share
Dec 07 11:31:40 <pigeons>	and he intends to continue despite being glbsed
Dec 07 11:31:46 <Ukto>	giga?
Dec 07 11:31:49 <pigeons>	yes
Dec 07 11:31:54 <Ukto>	i thoguht he was just closing ?
Dec 07 11:31:56 <pigeons>	no
Dec 07 11:32:00 <pigeons>	not closing
Dec 07 11:32:01 *	Ukto pokes gigavps in the eye
Dec 07 11:32:19 <Ukto>	then
Dec 07 11:32:33 <Ukto>	that means that the claims woudl earn the passthrough fund dividends
Dec 07 11:32:34 <Ukto>	to claim
Dec 07 11:32:36 <Ukto>	and continue on
Dec 07 11:32:43 <Ukto>	and regardless of glbse going down
Dec 07 11:32:48 <pigeons>	correct
Dec 07 11:32:48 <Ukto>	those share values on the passthrough should remain
Dec 07 11:32:50 <Ukto>	and remain tradeable
Dec 07 11:32:56 <Ukto>	(my opinion)
Dec 07 11:33:00 <Ukto>	but
Dec 07 11:33:04 <Ukto>	giga has to actually do his part
Dec 07 11:33:11 <pigeons>	well mircea_popescu claims that "he always stated" that he intended the passthrough to be zero work/maintenance
Dec 07 11:33:13 <Ukto>	and MP has to do his part on behalf of the PT
Dec 07 11:33:18 <jcpham>	i see everything you guys are saying but isn't it a huge pain in the ass for MP to operate his etf without any information
Dec 07 11:33:21 <jcpham>	forthwith
Dec 07 11:33:32 <jcpham>	might as well just pause it or shut it down entirely
Dec 07 11:33:52 <pigeons>	MP did shut the passthrough down entirely
Dec 07 11:34:43 <Ukto>	jcpham: my view, is that as long as the shares receive dividends, and he can distribute those to the share holders on the mpex list, then its full tradeable w/ value on mpex. no information on GLBSE is required to operate/maintain the passthrough fund. price at glbse does not matter, since it trades at its ownprice on MPEX.
Dec 07 11:34:57 <Ukto>	so neither market value, depth, or histroy on GLBSE have anything to do with an asset on MPEX
Dec 07 11:34:58 <Ukto>	right?
Dec 07 11:35:03 <pigeons>	nope
Dec 07 11:35:05 <Ukto>	unless I missed something
Dec 07 11:35:17 <jcpham>	ic i think
Dec 07 11:35:30 <Ukto>	and if gigia is just paying out divs
Dec 07 11:35:31 <pigeons>	with glbse gone MP doesnt get the dividends to pass through anymore
Dec 07 11:35:46 <Ukto>	pigeons: but he plans to pay out the divs, to those who claim
Dec 07 11:35:49 <Ukto>	as if GLBSE was still in place
Dec 07 11:35:50 <Ukto>	right?
Dec 07 11:36:01 <pigeons>	giga does, MP does not plan to claim
Dec 07 11:36:05 <jcpham>	i don't like this idea of a passthrough
Dec 07 11:36:11 <Ukto>	jcpham: agreed
Dec 07 11:36:15 <jcpham>	i never participated in anything like it
Dec 07 11:36:18 <pigeons>	MP says that making claims was not part of the deal
Dec 07 11:36:19 <jcpham>	and i don't like it
Dec 07 11:36:20 <Ukto>	it put responsibility on MP
Dec 07 11:36:36 <Ukto>	pigeons: i have not seen the contract, i dont think. but he may be partially correct
Dec 07 11:36:46 <pigeons>	it wasn't mentioned
Dec 07 11:36:51 <Ukto>	if MP never promised to 'care for' the the passthrough
Dec 07 11:36:57 <Ukto>	"it is what it is, good luck" type of thing
Dec 07 11:37:04 *	Ukto shrugs
Dec 07 11:37:12 <jcpham>	and that is what it seems to me
Dec 07 11:37:15 <pigeons>	he did make public statements that he would not do any further work other than paying dividends
Dec 07 11:37:17 <jcpham>	it is what it is
Dec 07 11:37:21 <Ukto>	thats the investors fault I think
Dec 07 11:37:26 <pigeons>	yes in the end, its gone
Dec 07 11:37:29 <Ukto>	for trusting MP to do what they think is the right hting
Dec 07 11:37:57 <Ukto>	without a written out obligation
Dec 07 11:38:13 <Ukto>	pigeons: he removed all records of the asset from accounts though, is my udnerstanding
Dec 07 11:38:18 <Ukto>	how could he payout divs?
Dec 07 11:38:38 <pigeons>	i mean before the glbse closure
Dec 07 11:38:42 <Ukto>	ah
Dec 07 11:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053141 = 2.2962 BTC [+]
Dec 07 11:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11760 @ 0.00053173 = 6.2531 BTC [+]
Dec 07 11:39:15 <Ukto>	yeah, he suggested I do a passthough of mpex on Bitfunder.. i think I will def. avoid it now
Dec 07 11:39:25 <Ukto>	jsut because I dont want to end up in a similar situation
Dec 07 11:39:43 <Ukto>	not that I would have a hard time spending a little effort to make shareholders "Customer" happy
Dec 07 11:39:50 <Ukto>	even if its ot required
Dec 07 11:40:03 <Ukto>	i think more effort would go into fighting it anyways
Dec 07 11:40:15 <pigeons>	yeah i figured originally i would have an easier time getting GIGA divdends from MP than from nefario if GLBSE went south, and I was wrong, but oh well
Dec 07 11:40:36 <pigeons>	about a month ago MP made it clear this is what would happen and so i sold the rest
Dec 07 11:42:48 <Ukto>	regardless, just because he may not feel, because it is not written down, that he has an obligation to the shareholders to "try" to take care of them, does not mean that people do not have the right to issue a scammer tag, for not "Trying", since he did not explicitly write that he woudl NOT adminitrate the account beyhond divs. (unless he did?)
Dec 07 11:43:17 <Ukto>	*ignore mass mispells
Dec 07 11:43:32 <pigeons>	boring
Dec 07 11:43:48 <Ukto>	yes. yes I am
Dec 07 11:43:49 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 07 11:43:51 <pigeons>	;)
Dec 07 11:43:58 *	Ukto gets EskimoBob back for an igloo dance
Dec 07 11:43:59 <pigeons>	no the subject :)
Dec 07 11:44:31 <Ukto>	btw, anyone had contact with tcatm in the last 12 weeks he dissapeared from irc?
Dec 07 11:44:52 <Ukto>	I tried emailing him a few times, and no response et all :/
Dec 07 11:46:45 <Ukto>	new topic.. hmm
Dec 07 11:47:01 <Ukto>	oh pigeons: while we are such an upbeat news for asset exchanges..
Dec 07 11:47:05 <Ukto>	any thoughts for bitfunder? :P
Dec 07 11:47:17 <Ukto>	Other than "please dont screw the customers" ?
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Dec 07 11:51:18 <EskimoBob>	talked to nefario. Some retard is calling him every day and is leaving really ugly messages to his voice mail. Who ever you are, you are not helping at all. Damn fuckwits
Dec 07 11:51:28 <pigeons>	no i dont have a lot of thoughts right now
Dec 07 11:51:41 <pigeons>	hahah i would have thought it was you Bob
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Dec 07 11:53:28 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: LOL
Dec 07 11:53:43 <Ukto>	prolly that kid from china
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Dec 07 12:18:45 <PsychoticBoy>	so dick shaped ppl hows life
Dec 07 12:19:41 <PsychoticBoy>	I am also going to rent a ¨WALL¨ around me :D hehe seems to work
Dec 07 12:19:44 <jcpham>	super swell
Dec 07 12:20:03 <PsychoticBoy>	jolly good
Dec 07 12:21:12 <PsychoticBoy>	Ukto, how it stands, for now, ppl would like to see me move to bitfunder
Dec 07 12:21:28 <kakobrekla>	is it live yet?
Dec 07 12:21:33 <Ukto>	yes
Dec 07 12:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00053075 = 6.6344 BTC [-]
Dec 07 12:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4180 @ 0.00053173 = 2.2226 BTC [+]
Dec 07 12:22:09 *	Ukto is about to put up some first json API scripts
Dec 07 12:22:37 <Ukto>	been going back and fourth on a final decision on microtime
Dec 07 12:22:59 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla
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Dec 07 12:23:46 <Ukto>	hehe thanks kako :)
Dec 07 12:23:53 <kakobrekla>	np
Dec 07 12:24:03 <kakobrekla>	what about microtime
Dec 07 12:24:06 <Ukto>	though i never saw the habelockinvestments.com url before since it goes off of my window lol
Dec 07 12:24:46 <Ukto>	i have an AI field for the trades that has no particular purpose since the system uses its own trade txn id. was debating using that
Dec 07 12:25:07 <Ukto>	but one of my biggest security bugs, is I don't like giving any information that cold tie anything directly from the outside world to the db
Dec 07 12:25:16 <Ukto>	well, the id is used internally to reference the txn id
Dec 07 12:25:26 <kakobrekla>	this is for tweet uniqification?
Dec 07 12:25:37 <Ukto>	not "bugs" but, things that bug me
Dec 07 12:25:37 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 07 12:25:44 <Ukto>	yeah, tweet/json trades
Dec 07 12:25:47 <Ukto>	as a uniqe counter
Dec 07 12:25:58 <Ukto>	think I will just put a microtime field on
Dec 07 12:26:02 <Ukto>	so time+microtime
Dec 07 12:26:03 <kakobrekla>	well, if its a 'counter' than just ++
Dec 07 12:26:34 <Ukto>	for security reasons, I just dont feel like showing those numbers to the public hehe
Dec 07 12:26:41 <EskimoBob>	"pigeons | hahah i would have thought it was you Bob " - LOL :) I do not do crap like that.
Dec 07 12:26:50 <Ukto>	then again, if someone has the time/microtime, it wouldnt be hard to locate the record anyways in teh table if  that was the point
Dec 07 12:27:16 <Ukto>	just my design musings outloud. :)
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Dec 07 13:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053162 = 2.2971 BTC [-]
Dec 07 13:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5681 @ 0.00053173 = 3.0208 BTC [+]
Dec 07 13:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5698 @ 0.00053182 = 3.0303 BTC [+]
Dec 07 13:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053152 = 2.2967 BTC [-]
Dec 07 13:12:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6551 @ 0.00053182 = 3.484 BTC [+]
Dec 07 13:13:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00053182 = 3.4568 BTC [+]
Dec 07 13:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob yer talkin nonsense.
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Dec 07 13:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> if f.giga.etf is supposed to have some value, why nobody asked mircea to arrange buyback on december 1st? << why did it trade 3 days out of 30 for the 30 days BEFORE the announcement moreover.
Dec 07 13:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	<Ukto> he bought shares of giga from giga direct? or on glbse << i bought bonds before the glbse ipo. they were transformed into glbse shares when giga decided later to put up with nefario's bs. i didn't want to, but i didn't make a huge point out of it either because at the time nefario hadn't yet quite shown himself for the huge cock he was/i didn't know better.
Dec 07 13:22:13 <Ukto>	ahhh
Dec 07 13:22:25 <Ukto>	then
Dec 07 13:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	<pigeons> well mircea_popescu claims that "he always stated" that he intended the passthrough to be zero work/maintenance << should i quote ?
Dec 07 13:22:38 <Ukto>	but were your shares listed within glbse?
Dec 07 13:22:57 <Ukto>	and 'assigned' to you?
Dec 07 13:23:03 <Ukto>	or were those outside of/beyond ?
Dec 07 13:23:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7051 @ 0.00053182 = 3.7499 BTC [+]
Dec 07 13:23:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11825 @ 0.00053182 = 6.2888 BTC [+]
Dec 07 13:24:06 <mircea_popescu>	<Ukto> pigeons: he removed all records of the asset from accounts though, is my udnerstanding << you srsly should read that 3 hour discussion. the shares were removed from current holdings. all historical info is still there, and also here, on the twitter feed, etc.
Dec 07 13:24:08 <Ukto>	i.e. was giga paying you divs seperately ?
Dec 07 13:24:28 <Ukto>	then I was very wrong. :)
Dec 07 13:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	<pigeons> yeah i figured originally i would have an easier time getting GIGA divdends from MP than from nefario if GLBSE went south << this would be true. however, glbse going south + giga going taxid/etc is a different story.
Dec 07 13:25:49 <gigavps>	ahhhhh
Dec 07 13:26:02 <Ukto>	good morning mr giga :P
Dec 07 13:26:03 <gigavps>	maybe you could explain a bit further
Dec 07 13:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto no, theywere on glbse.
Dec 07 13:26:10 <Ukto>	ah, okay
Dec 07 13:26:14 <gigavps>	good afternoon Ukto
Dec 07 13:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	everyone's pre-glbse ipo stuff was moved on glbse
Dec 07 13:26:23 <Ukto>	guess it is afternoon now isnt it
Dec 07 13:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	it seemed logical at the time, simplify everyone's maintenance of it.
Dec 07 13:26:35 <gigavps>	some parts of the world ;)
Dec 07 13:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	also, it seemed friendlier to smalltimers, as in, not have to require minimum x hundred btc investment.
Dec 07 13:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	the problem with being friendly to small timers is that then you end up stuck with a horde of very silly people.
Dec 07 13:27:41 <Ukto>	so basically, it boils down to, you did the passthrough, told everyone you had 0 plans to do anything that requires any actual time or effort, good luck have fun. now shit hit the fan, and your sticking to what your siad since gigavps wants tax docs/id etc that you never agreed to provide should they be requested. right?
Dec 07 13:28:31 <Ukto>	regardless of any potential share value
Dec 07 13:28:32 <mircea_popescu>	something like that.
Dec 07 13:28:40 <Ukto>	potential or not
Dec 07 13:28:41 <Ukto>	even
Dec 07 13:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	well, not regardless. if the stuff giga does ends up having a value in fact
Dec 07 13:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	giga.etf people can whine at me for it.
Dec 07 13:29:03 <mircea_popescu>	but atm, it's nothing yet.
Dec 07 13:29:10 <Ukto>	and gigavps, I take it, your stuck not able to give out anything unless mircea_popescu provides said documentation right?
Dec 07 13:29:28 <gigavps>	correct
Dec 07 13:29:30 <Ukto>	then it is a stalemate.
Dec 07 13:29:37 <mircea_popescu>	dude, looky :
Dec 07 13:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	giga finally is done with his process sometime. say january.
Dec 07 13:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	issues a 0.15 btc payment per share.
Dec 07 13:30:48 <mircea_popescu>	etf guy emails me going listen! i had 1000 etf shares. giga paid 0.15 btc! I should get something!
Dec 07 13:30:49 <Ukto>	people can bitch and whine at mp ALL they want, but if it was made clear that he had no responsibility to do any effort towrads the actual shares, then its up to thsoe people to seek whatever based on their own views. end of story
Dec 07 13:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	he's probably going to get something.
Dec 07 13:31:20 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: what if gigavps begins normal div payouts regularly?
Dec 07 13:31:25 <Ukto>	and you havent 'claimed' ?
Dec 07 13:31:32 <Ukto>	would you continue to pay out divs out of your pocket?
Dec 07 13:31:38 <mircea_popescu>	alternatively, guy goes "here's a signed statement of no further claims, pay me X". if x is reasonable he'll also get it.
Dec 07 13:31:38 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Dec 07 13:31:42 <Ukto>	just curious :)
Dec 07 13:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	all this is very fucking c ommon and veryfucking sane, except for people that really have no idea howfinance works.
Dec 07 13:32:20 <Ukto>	and people blowing up and loosing their mind and getting attiudes
Dec 07 13:32:23 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i doubt it makes much sense for giga to pay dividends "normally". i would expect he makes some sort of final settlement.
Dec 07 13:32:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00053043 = 6.2856 BTC [-]
Dec 07 13:32:39 <mircea_popescu>	i don't intend to make any more than one payment to claimants, which'd be final and negotiated.
Dec 07 13:32:51 <Ukto>	gigavps: you were planning to shut down, right? someone mentioend earlier you wanted to continue? But that did nto soudn right to me
Dec 07 13:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	it's impractical to keep fiddling with the shit forever.
Dec 07 13:33:03 <Ukto>	*cant type, sorry
Dec 07 13:33:13 <gigavps>	Ukto if i was going to shut down, i wouldn't be going through all of this mess
Dec 07 13:33:23 <mircea_popescu>	?!
Dec 07 13:33:25 <Ukto>	ahhh alright
Dec 07 13:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	how'd you pay if you were going to shut down ?
Dec 07 13:34:06 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu we don't have to worry about that because i'm NOT SHUTTING DOWN
Dec 07 13:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	i thought the entire problem was you didn't have a way to identify owners that's reliable
Dec 07 13:34:18 <mircea_popescu>	mkay.
Dec 07 13:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	this is an odd development lol.
Dec 07 13:34:32 <Ukto>	so he plans to contiune (at some point) to pay dividends and get back to business as usual
Dec 07 13:34:40 <gigavps>	is the US, it is mandatory to keep records of who you are doing business with
Dec 07 13:34:41 <Ukto>	see what happens when we talk things through? :)
Dec 07 13:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	you seriously are going to be paying weekly btc after your claims are complete ?!
Dec 07 13:34:59 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu yes
Dec 07 13:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto not like i'm nopt here daily an' talking things.
Dec 07 13:35:12 <gigavps>	wtf did you think i was going to do
Dec 07 13:35:18 <Ukto>	no, but sometimes a 3rd person helps alot
Dec 07 13:35:23 <Ukto>	(if that person is trying to work things out.)
Dec 07 13:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps da fuck. won't that even cost more than the payments to administer ?!
Dec 07 13:35:40 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you'll go here is a final payment offer, lala.
Dec 07 13:35:42 <Ukto>	yes, hes trying to do it as "right" as possible
Dec 07 13:35:51 <Ukto>	even if it costs outof his pocket
Dec 07 13:35:52 <jcpham>	giavps 2 legit
Dec 07 13:35:52 <gigavps>	LOL
Dec 07 13:35:58 <jcpham>	so legit he hurts himself
Dec 07 13:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	it's how something lik this is usually unwound.
Dec 07 13:35:59 <Ukto>	thats been the whoel odeal that ppl have been confused on I think
Dec 07 13:36:03 <gigavps>	well, maybe you should ask me what i'm doing
Dec 07 13:36:19 <gigavps>	instead of deciding for me in your head
Dec 07 13:36:22 <Ukto>	gigavps: well, now that things are working out, lets play nice :P
Dec 07 13:36:26 *	Ukto whacks gigavps
Dec 07 13:36:30 <Ukto>	lets not start a new fued :P
Dec 07 13:36:33 <gigavps>	i am playing nice
Dec 07 13:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps i did notice you never actualyl said what you were doing with the claims once complete, so i figure it's because it's the obvious thing
Dec 07 13:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	and didn't care to stir the pot.
Dec 07 13:36:39 <jcpham>	sounds like a classic communication breakdown
Dec 07 13:36:49 <Ukto>	jcpham: exactly.
Dec 07 13:36:53 <jcpham>	no harm no foul
Dec 07 13:37:12 <Ukto>	now _everyone_ can take teh knifes off of everyones throats, and relax a bit
Dec 07 13:37:18 <gigavps>	my wife does say that my style of communication is to offer less and wait for questions
Dec 07 13:37:26 <jcpham>	mine too
Dec 07 13:37:30 <jcpham>	i'm no messenger
Dec 07 13:37:49 <gigavps>	i'm not really fond of people who can talk for days on end....
Dec 07 13:38:05 <jcpham>	like Ukto?
Dec 07 13:38:08 <PsychoticBoy>	sure
Dec 07 13:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	so you are going to pay btc weekly ?
Dec 07 13:38:16 <Ukto>	defenitely
Dec 07 13:38:21 <jcpham>	;)
Dec 07 13:38:40 <Ukto>	hey, if I can help someone with my annoyance, so be it :P
Dec 07 13:38:54 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu i'm writing the software to handle this now....
Dec 07 13:38:55 <mircea_popescu>	i gotta see this thing.
Dec 07 13:39:16 <jcpham>	gigavps: use notepad.exe
Dec 07 13:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	but wtf i mean suppose someone sends notice of non payment
Dec 07 13:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	now that you're all in written form. what do you do, explain the court that you in fact DID pay
Dec 07 13:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	it was just this btc thingee ?
Dec 07 13:40:43 <Ukto>	jcpham: LOL
Dec 07 13:40:55 <gigavps>	jcpham i love notepad.exe
Dec 07 13:41:05 <jcpham>	best programmer
Dec 07 13:41:07 <gigavps>	but i use sublime text for the most part
Dec 07 13:41:15 <Ukto>	nah
Dec 07 13:41:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1101 @ 0.00331829 = 3.6534 BTC [-]
Dec 07 13:41:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2099 @ 0.0033 = 6.9267 BTC [-]
Dec 07 13:41:21 <Ukto>	just use excel to store all your data and track it
Dec 07 13:41:23 <Ukto>	its teh best! :P
Dec 07 13:41:36 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu the contract is for bitcoins, that is not changing
Dec 07 13:41:40 <jcpham>	access database
Dec 07 13:41:42 <jcpham>	don
Dec 07 13:41:45 <jcpham>	't lie
Dec 07 13:41:45 <Ukto>	ouch
Dec 07 13:41:57 <gigavps>	mariadb
Dec 07 13:41:58 <Ukto>	heh, apples filemaker pro :P
Dec 07 13:41:59 <jcpham>	multi-user access database
Dec 07 13:42:00 <jcpham>	even better
Dec 07 13:42:10 <Ukto>	oooh
Dec 07 13:42:12 <Ukto>	Fox! :P
Dec 07 13:42:47 <jcpham>	I'm not really going to be happy about bitcoin until I have the balling asics
Dec 07 13:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	prolly next year that.
Dec 07 13:43:02 <jcpham>	gpu mining is for the birds
Dec 07 13:43:15 <Ukto>	agreed
Dec 07 13:43:17 <jcpham>	thank god for the shares i have left at coinlab
Dec 07 13:43:20 <Ukto>	i turned my gpu off a few days ago
Dec 07 13:43:25 <Ukto>	thinking about putting it on ltc for amusement
Dec 07 13:43:27 <jcpham>	that's like 140%
Dec 07 13:43:53 <Ukto>	jcpham: how did you get all those shares at coinlab ? >:P
Dec 07 13:44:16 <mircea_popescu>	hamsters.
Dec 07 13:44:29 <jcpham>	i gamed the shit out of their PPS
Dec 07 13:44:34 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 07 13:44:37 <jcpham>	i think i got the whole hour of 199%
Dec 07 13:44:42 <jcpham>	a few weeks back
Dec 07 13:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	is this like a sort of pool hopping ?
Dec 07 13:45:55 <jcpham>	hashpower.com is sortof like gpumax.com
Dec 07 13:46:15 <jcpham>	in that you can buy other people's rigs for the highest price
Dec 07 13:46:17 <jcpham>	per share
Dec 07 13:46:41 <jcpham>	so if I can buy at 115% and mine ona pool paying 120%
Dec 07 13:46:45 <jcpham>	it is profitable
Dec 07 13:47:08 <jcpham>	coinlab is lucky they came around after gpumax
Dec 07 13:47:17 <Ukto>	you mean, you are lucky? :P
Dec 07 13:47:26 <Ukto>	or that they get to pay you more?
Dec 07 13:47:27 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 07 13:47:43 <jcpham>	if hashpower was 1TH/s
Dec 07 13:47:48 <jcpham>	i'd have more shares
Dec 07 13:48:16 <jcpham>	probably break their pool though
Dec 07 13:48:26 <Ukto>	it might soon enough
Dec 07 13:48:32 <Ukto>	working on vardiff atm
Dec 07 13:48:41 <jcpham>	neat
Dec 07 13:48:57 <Ukto>	also, weex no longer requires invites. :)
Dec 07 13:49:11 <Ukto>	its now open-beta lol
Dec 07 13:49:14 <jcpham>	hashpower->weex->my wallet is instant btw
Dec 07 13:49:17 <jcpham>	flawless even
Dec 07 13:49:32 <Ukto>	and weex min withdraw is 0.1btc now
Dec 07 13:50:26 <PsychoticBoy>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78638.msg1384935#msg1384935
Dec 07 13:50:27 <Ukto>	I will prolly setup a btc auto-withdraw thing for both HP and weex at somepoint.
Dec 07 13:50:31 <Ukto>	might be an xmas gift
Dec 07 13:50:36 <jcpham>	that would be nice
Dec 07 13:50:43 <jcpham>	then i could forget about my miners
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Dec 07 14:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052706 = 2.2774 BTC [-]
Dec 07 14:06:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12979 @ 0.000527 = 6.8399 BTC [-]
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Dec 07 14:21:49 <smickles>	Ok, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1385017#msg1385017
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Dec 07 14:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	good luck with it
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Dec 07 14:40:09 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: So, didn't you really know that gigavps would be continuing payments?
Dec 07 14:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052718 = 2.2779 BTC [+]
Dec 07 14:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28329 @ 0.000527 = 14.9294 BTC [-]
Dec 07 14:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	afaik he never said that specifically until tonight.
Dec 07 14:41:39 <rdponticelli>	Well, I knew it, that's way I was still interested...
Dec 07 14:41:51 <gigavps>	i'm not sure why i would be paying all of this money if i didn't want to continue. but i digress
Dec 07 14:42:00 <rdponticelli>	It was in his thread IIRC?
Dec 07 14:43:55 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps well, clean closing comes to mind.
Dec 07 14:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli gimme a quote ? it's possible girl might have missed it.
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Dec 07 14:46:09 <rdponticelli>	I wouldn't bother for 8 or 9 btc, but it's the link that's worthwhile
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Dec 07 14:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli what we do, even if for 8 or 9 btc, has the value of creating precedent
Dec 07 14:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	so in general it's worth arguing things to their ends.
Dec 07 14:47:16 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: I would have to search for the quote...
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Dec 07 14:49:11 <rdponticelli>	But I clearly understood the continuity from what I gathered from the thread...
Dec 07 14:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	well mind you, what you understood and what it says may be different things.
Dec 07 14:50:25 <rdponticelli>	Well, we are still arguing...
Dec 07 14:50:56 <rdponticelli>	There's plenty of time
Dec 07 14:51:00 <Bugpowder>	mpex website down?
Dec 07 14:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	yeah datacenter doesn't ping.
Dec 07 14:51:25 <kakobrekla>	OMGSEC
Dec 07 14:51:47 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, may be, but everybody else seems to have understood the same
Dec 07 14:51:52 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 07 14:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	 209.51.137.26 is ded
Dec 07 14:53:39 <rdponticelli>	It's that's so difficult to filter out the shit on that forum...
Dec 07 14:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	rdponticelli you're telling me ?
Dec 07 14:54:55 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: I'm just telling...
Dec 07 14:55:02 <rdponticelli>	:)
Dec 07 14:55:10 <rdponticelli>	*Saying
Dec 07 14:55:18 <mircea_popescu>	im just agreeing lol. srsly, wouldn't surprise me if the girl missed out something, jsut on sheer volume
Dec 07 14:55:27 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, all my mpex commands time out :S
Dec 07 14:55:43 <jurov>	other can do STAT without problem?
Dec 07 14:55:53 <jurov>	*others
Dec 07 14:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	read up ?
Dec 07 14:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	dc just vanished am inute ago.
Dec 07 14:56:20 <jurov>	ah
Dec 07 14:56:29 <Bugpowder>	its back
Dec 07 14:56:33 <jurov>	yes
Dec 07 14:56:58 <Bugpowder>	errr
Dec 07 14:57:00 <Bugpowder>	or not
Dec 07 14:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. was like... tech picked up, person said hi tech said "it's back"
Dec 07 14:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	what again ?
Dec 07 14:57:30 <Bugpowder>	down again
Dec 07 14:57:35 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha wtf.
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Dec 07 14:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	a well im giving it five.
Dec 07 14:59:41 <Bugpowder>	its just superslow
Dec 07 15:00:13 <jurov>	my bots finally DOSed it :p
Dec 07 15:01:07 <mircea_popescu>	no, one router fried. they say be ~15.
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Dec 07 15:06:17 *	Ukto bots jurov too
Dec 07 15:07:04 *	jurov reprograms the bots and sends them back in time
Dec 07 15:07:24 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 07 15:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 25121 @ 0.00300001 = 75.3633 BTC [-]
Dec 07 15:10:33 <smickles>	ok, s²cm begins paying out as soonits machine syncs with the blockchain
Dec 07 15:10:46 <smickles>	*as soon as its
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Dec 07 15:10:59 <Bugpowder>	what is s²cm
Dec 07 15:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00052885 = 1.6923 BTC [+]
Dec 07 15:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	ahh this is nice
Dec 07 15:11:30 <smickles>	Bugpowder: a former glbse asset
Dec 07 15:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	i like people who say ~15 and then it's 9
Dec 07 15:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	it was smickles and iirc splater's trading bot
Dec 07 15:12:17 <smickles>	Azelphur: did the netsplit cause you to miss this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1385017#msg1385017
Dec 07 15:12:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1000 @ 0.10186609 = 101.8661 BTC [-]
Dec 07 15:12:33 <jcpham>	yeah Azelphur you should hurry
Dec 07 15:12:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.13567008 = 135.6701 BTC [-]
Dec 07 15:12:53 <smickles>	lol, "while supplies last"
Dec 07 15:12:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.16560208 = 165.6021 BTC [-]
Dec 07 15:12:58 <jcpham>	haha
Dec 07 15:12:59 <Bugpowder>	ooo
Dec 07 15:13:51 <mircea_popescu>	smickles for my curiosity, what repay scheme do you use ? everyone who claims % equal to what you have liquid + settlement/final payment once 100% liquidates ?
Dec 07 15:14:50 <smickles>	yeah, since we have not liquidate 100% of the assets yet, everyone gets an equal share of btc on hand, then an equal share of the btc from each sale as they occur
Dec 07 15:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	o, like that ?
Dec 07 15:15:29 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: this cunt you hired to do your PR is kinda stupid. Possibly both of you are clueless and she is the fool who is just posting that nonsense you have told her to write
Dec 07 15:15:41 <jcpham>	i like her boobs
Dec 07 15:15:42 <smickles>	er, equal share, being their proportion according to how many shares they had
Dec 07 15:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob what is this about ?
Dec 07 15:15:52 <EskimoBob>	ask her
Dec 07 15:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	lmao. you are trying to hide behind the skirts of MY pr ?
Dec 07 15:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	get your own.
Dec 07 15:16:37 <EskimoBob>	?
Dec 07 15:16:39 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=52741;sa=showPosts
Dec 07 15:16:53 <jcpham>	i think she's abrasive too mircea, put a muzzel on her
Dec 07 15:17:08 <jcpham>	but boobs
Dec 07 15:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	wouldn't she look great in a muzzle...
Dec 07 15:17:20 <jcpham>	i bet
Dec 07 15:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	but that aside, abrasive is needed on btctalk.
Dec 07 15:17:23 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: she is just perfect for mircea_popescu
Dec 07 15:17:38 <mod6>	i actually like how she drops the hammer on people on btctalk
Dec 07 15:17:43 <jcpham>	i do too
Dec 07 15:17:48 <jcpham>	i used the word abrasive
Dec 07 15:17:55 <jcpham>	which isn't *that* bad
Dec 07 15:17:56 <mod6>	If i was on there, I would +1 many posts.
Dec 07 15:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	abraded sounds sorta like something to do with bride
Dec 07 15:18:37 <smickles>	abrasives are good, acetone, for instance, is greate at removing nail polish
Dec 07 15:18:39 <Ukto>	i already have 1 bride, dont need more
Dec 07 15:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	does she abride you ?
Dec 07 15:19:20 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: you do not want that sociopath :)
Dec 07 15:19:26 <Ukto>	ROFLOL
Dec 07 15:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	o, also, to remind everyone : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-mpex-rota/
Dec 07 15:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	first rolls close in ~ a week
Dec 07 15:20:08 <EskimoBob>	fuck you and your rota, mircea_popescu. Honestly
Dec 07 15:20:33 <EskimoBob>	at the rate you are going right now, you are probably the first asshole in front of that toy court
Dec 07 15:20:37 <jcpham>	toning down on the condescending remarks would help boobs mcghee
Dec 07 15:20:38 <mircea_popescu>	why are you so angry, anyway ?
Dec 07 15:20:43 <jcpham>	i doubt she needs friends though
Dec 07 15:20:46 <EskimoBob>	lol :)
Dec 07 15:21:23 <EskimoBob>	I am not angry at all.
Dec 07 15:21:30 <Ukto>	whats the diference between a # and a @ on twatter?
Dec 07 15:21:36 <smickles>	EskimoBob: I'd like to thank you for causing me to be quoted so often :)
Dec 07 15:21:39 <jcpham>	one is a person
Dec 07 15:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	# sends t a chanel
Dec 07 15:21:43 <jcpham>	on is a hashtag
Dec 07 15:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	@ to a person
Dec 07 15:21:58 <jcpham>	hashtags are like subject links
Dec 07 15:22:01 <Ukto>	jcpham: thanks capt, obvious
Dec 07 15:22:10 <Ukto>	so I would create a channel ?
Dec 07 15:22:11 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 07 15:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	omg we were only trying to halp.
Dec 07 15:22:19 <jcpham>	so #ukto in every tweet
Dec 07 15:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	ukto why'd you be on twitter ?
Dec 07 15:22:24 <jcpham>	would make it easy to search for you
Dec 07 15:22:31 <jcpham>	or anyone talking about you
Dec 07 15:22:34 <jcpham>	or that subject
Dec 07 15:22:37 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: for bitfunder
Dec 07 15:22:40 <Ukto>	for trade history
Dec 07 15:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Dec 07 15:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	MPEx ‏@MPEx1
Dec 07 15:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	1`000 O.BTCUSD.C120T @ 0.16560208BTC = 165.60208000BTC (= 2`200.85 USD). 20 #trade #bitcoin #btc #options
Dec 07 15:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure why i use those, tbh.
Dec 07 15:23:00 *	Ukto has always avoided twatter
Dec 07 15:23:09 <jcpham>	i dump spam on it
Dec 07 15:23:12 <jcpham>	that's about it
Dec 07 15:23:22 <Bugpowder>	twitter is an excellent professional tool
Dec 07 15:23:27 <EskimoBob>	fluffygrrl = MPOE-PR ... nice!
Dec 07 15:23:29 <jcpham>	every few months i log in and respong to smickles
Dec 07 15:23:53 <smickles>	heh, quarterly, iirc
Dec 07 15:23:55 <Bugpowder>	its the ultimate customized newsfeed, with real itme
Dec 07 15:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder what profession ?
Dec 07 15:23:58 <Bugpowder>	time info
Dec 07 15:24:00 <jcpham>	yes quarterly
Dec 07 15:24:04 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: there is nothing professional about twatter
Dec 07 15:24:07 <Bugpowder>	great for science
Dec 07 15:24:14 <EskimoBob>	probably
Dec 07 15:24:24 <EskimoBob>	if you study human stupidity
Dec 07 15:24:24 <Bugpowder>	great for marketing people, tech people
Dec 07 15:24:38 <Bugpowder>	great for professional atheletes
Dec 07 15:24:44 <mircea_popescu>	i had a pretty large following, never quite saw the usefulness of it.
Dec 07 15:24:47 <Bugpowder>	to "build their brand"
Dec 07 15:24:57 <jcpham>	spam mircea_popescu
Dec 07 15:25:01 <mircea_popescu>	i guess.
Dec 07 15:25:03 <EskimoBob>	sure, if you believe in 140 char drivel and # tags. No thanks
Dec 07 15:25:14 <Bugpowder>	The usefulness is not from who follows you so much as the quality of who you follow
Dec 07 15:25:19 <jcpham>	twitter is about information
Dec 07 15:25:23 <jcpham>	but it stresses me way out
Dec 07 15:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://twitter.com/mircea_popescu << pretty much have it set as a sort of rss feed of my blog atm
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Dec 07 15:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	but a year or two ago i used to be active. i guess its great if you're trying to hook up
Dec 07 15:25:43 <Bugpowder>	basically my twitter feed is a stream of a bunch of interesting links to things I care about, sprinkled with snarky commentary
Dec 07 15:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder sort of like popurls / delicious ?
Dec 07 15:26:03 <Bugpowder>	In the last year, serious science people have really gotten on board
Dec 07 15:26:08 <Bugpowder>	I dunno about that stuff
Dec 07 15:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	a ok well maybe that explains it.
Dec 07 15:26:34 <Bugpowder>	this allows you to have a dialogue with important people in your field and others you are interested in
Dec 07 15:26:39 <Bugpowder>	in a quick way
Dec 07 15:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	honestly, i much prefer irc. just the logging alone. twitter sucks for looking in the history.
Dec 07 15:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	and im a history-type. even newspapers, i buy today, read in 6 months. or a year.
Dec 07 15:27:03 <Bugpowder>	yeah but IRC is limited in the scope and is a timesuck
Dec 07 15:27:10 <Bugpowder>	twitter is quick
Dec 07 15:27:14 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: twiter is like rss, but shit
Dec 07 15:27:25 <Bugpowder>	rss
Dec 07 15:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	i never got into rss either
Dec 07 15:27:34 <Bugpowder>	is a reasonable comparison, but its not shit.
Dec 07 15:27:55 <Bugpowder>	its much better than rss, because the links are screened by real people for content quality
Dec 07 15:28:12 <Bugpowder>	as long as you follow people that don't post stupid shit
Dec 07 15:28:17 <pigeons>	what is mpex hosted on a bitvps now or something?
Dec 07 15:28:24 <Bugpowder>	but instead focus on good stuff.
Dec 07 15:28:41 <Bugpowder>	ANyway, I like it and find it useful.
Dec 07 15:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons not afaik ?
Dec 07 15:28:56 <pigeons>	oh i guess not since it came back up quickly
Dec 07 15:28:57 <smickles>	it's like how facebook is like having your own website, but shit
Dec 07 15:28:59 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 07 15:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i guess if he has a tight knit circle and they use it, its as good as the circle
Dec 07 15:29:32 <jcpham>	pigeons HURR DURR
Dec 07 15:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons in its defense, it's the first time it was down in like six months.
Dec 07 15:30:03 <Bugpowder>	facebook is for friends and bullshit
Dec 07 15:30:05 <smickles>	pigeons: huh, bitvps went down? i'm irsiing from a bitvps server
Dec 07 15:30:20 <jcpham>	pigeons has jokes smickles
Dec 07 15:30:26 <smickles>	oh
Dec 07 15:30:33 <pigeons>	tip your waitress
Dec 07 15:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	he saw mpex being down in the backlog and wet his pants. then saw it came back up. stuck with sticky fluid on loins.
Dec 07 15:30:51 *	smickles herp-a-derps away
Dec 07 15:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	is that bullshit show friends still going ?
Dec 07 15:31:40 <pigeons>	no
Dec 07 15:31:45 <jcpham>	where the fuck are you from mircea_popescu
Dec 07 15:31:46 <Bugpowder>	only in syndication of reruns
Dec 07 15:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	aww,
Dec 07 15:31:49 <jcpham>	oh right romania
Dec 07 15:32:16 <jcpham>	are you telling me Frineds isn't playing every weeknight on TBS in .ro?
Dec 07 15:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham man, my only exposure to it was the one time i was picking up this chick. i was with some other dude, she was with like 3-4 friends of hers. and they were watching... you guessed it...
Dec 07 15:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	so this other guy pointed out that show'd be great to watch when they're all like 48 or something.
Dec 07 15:32:52 <mircea_popescu>	which... i can see the point lol.
Dec 07 15:32:56 <jcpham>	nah
Dec 07 15:33:00 <jcpham>	that shows sucks
Dec 07 15:33:05 <jcpham>	it'll never be good
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Dec 07 15:33:14 <jcpham>	phoebe is stupid
Dec 07 15:33:21 <jcpham>	so is chandler and ross and rachel
Dec 07 15:33:23 <mircea_popescu>	oh come on. unattractive old chicks and losery douches hanging around and kevetching ?
Dec 07 15:33:24 <mircea_popescu>	riot!
Dec 07 15:33:30 <jcpham>	i don't remember the rest
Dec 07 15:33:35 <jcpham>	some of them fucked each other too
Dec 07 15:33:42 <jcpham>	but not while the show is running
Dec 07 15:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	i think the show where they fuck is a different format
Dec 07 15:34:07 <mircea_popescu>	life or reality or something like that
Dec 07 15:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	put a half dozen bums in a vault.
Dec 07 15:34:27 <jcpham>	i don't want to see that show
Dec 07 15:34:37 <jcpham>	unless they are given drugs and weapons also
Dec 07 15:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	speculums works.
Dec 07 15:35:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcoor3YEGZ1r3khrvo1_1280.jpg << are these underage ? [NSFW/NSFUS/ETC]
Dec 07 15:40:29 <jurov>	uh oh 90% stuff on http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin is about "bitcoin is becoming a bank"
Dec 07 15:40:49 <jurov>	serious clicktivism or what
Dec 07 15:41:37 <jurov>	*downvotes everything*
Dec 07 15:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess that it's a political problem. amply illustrated in this exchange https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129337.msg1383274#msg1383274
Dec 07 15:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	basically, some geeky/nerdy/internet types found btc first. finance types found it second, are marginalising them and it hurts.
Dec 07 15:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like you know, irl works.
Dec 07 15:43:48 <pigeons>	usagi is a licensed bank in japan
Dec 07 15:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	it's easy if you're big in japan.
Dec 07 15:44:25 <jurov>	yeah. and there's some banks livensed in nigeria on #bitcoin-otc
Dec 07 15:44:31 <jurov>	*licensed
Dec 07 15:51:44 <jurov>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTtf5s2HFkA
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Dec 07 16:01:43 <Namjies>	Bitcoin is not becoming a bank... a minor bitcoin exchange is turning into... something.
Dec 07 16:02:18 <Namjies>	That doesn't, in itself, forces anything unto bitcoins.
Dec 07 16:05:03 <Namjies>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoinforum/comments/14gio9/banktechcom_is_bitcoin_becoming_a_bank/
Dec 07 16:05:06 <Namjies>	Nice comment
Dec 07 16:05:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5053 @ 0.00052796 = 2.6678 BTC [-]
Dec 07 16:05:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052702 = 2.2773 BTC [-]
Dec 07 16:05:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6476 @ 0.000527 = 3.4129 BTC [-]
Dec 07 16:08:54 <Namjies>	And news anchor still fail at making accurate titles... http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/07/virtual-currency-bitcoin-registers
Dec 07 16:09:18 <Namjies>	hmm, writer in this case, not anchor
Dec 07 16:12:56 <Namjies>	I didn't know Bitcoin had staffers or official representation. Or that the bitcoin network would now support bank transfers thanks to this bby becoming a registered payment service provider!
Dec 07 16:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies it just goes to show the general population has not the first clue as to wtf is going on.
Dec 07 16:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	it's real bad, show them a goose they swear they've seen a shoebox sorta thing.
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Dec 07 16:15:24 <Namjies>	No, the general population has no clue as to how news are mostly rumors, not even researched facts.
Dec 07 16:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	that too.
Dec 07 16:15:48 <Namjies>	They vaguely correlate with an actual event. How much it does is never known.
Dec 07 16:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	but i meant, on the forum(s) and the like.
Dec 07 16:16:00 <Namjies>	Ah, indeed.
Dec 07 16:16:16 <jcpham>	http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/3/1349274909354/A-screenshot-showing-a-Bi-006.jpg
Dec 07 16:16:21 <jcpham>	weak wallet screenshot
Dec 07 16:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	that is https becoming an isp quote is really on point. wtf they know, random strings.
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Dec 07 16:20:37 <jcpham>	http://i.imgur.com/zcLwz.png
Dec 07 16:20:47 <jcpham>	better wallet screenshot. inspires confidence
Dec 07 16:20:55 <jcpham>	4 txns is weak
Dec 07 16:25:38 <Namjies>	nope... I can read "and there's some banks livensed in nigeria on #bitcoin-otc" on it.
Dec 07 16:26:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3143 @ 0.00052885 = 1.6622 BTC [+]
Dec 07 16:26:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30220 @ 0.00053122 = 16.0535 BTC [+]
Dec 07 16:27:30 <Namjies>	Doesn't inspire confidence
Dec 07 16:34:43 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135491604839.png even better.
Dec 07 16:35:04 <jcpham>	yes, yes it is
Dec 07 16:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18588 @ 0.00053122 = 9.8743 BTC [+]
Dec 07 16:35:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12975 @ 0.00053182 = 6.9004 BTC [+]
Dec 07 16:35:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9737 @ 0.00053198 = 5.1799 BTC [+]
Dec 07 16:36:15 <smickles>	i'd screenshot my wallet if I din't mostly use raw transactions now
Dec 07 16:36:42 <jcpham>	i can't wait until i hit 1000 txns
Dec 07 16:37:14 <smickles>	i'm going to start playing around with multisig soon too *squee*
Dec 07 16:40:29 <mircea_popescu>	im surprised anyone clicks my dtng links anymoar.
Dec 07 16:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	and smickles you can get a gui wallet up to display any wallet.dat you wish.
Dec 07 16:45:07 <smickles>	gui?
Dec 07 16:45:17 <smickles>	on that machine?
Dec 07 16:45:28 <smickles>	i'd have to install things :/
Dec 07 16:45:43 *	Ukto installs smickles
Dec 07 16:45:54 <smickles>	oooh, it tingles
Dec 07 16:46:03 <Ukto>	sick fuck.
Dec 07 16:46:04 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 07 16:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	ya well it's why it took me ten minutes lol
Dec 07 17:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.000527 = 8.3003 BTC [-]
Dec 07 17:09:27 <pigeons>	https://openexchangerates.org/
Dec 07 17:13:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10005 @ 0.00053198 = 5.3225 BTC [+]
Dec 07 17:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00053209 = 4.6292 BTC [+]
Dec 07 17:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43084 @ 0.00053214 = 22.9267 BTC [+]
Dec 07 17:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6911 @ 0.00053214 = 3.6776 BTC [+]
Dec 07 17:14:27 <Namjies>	smickles, here, some orchestrated air waves to give you heart for the task at hand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2MrK3rQYrA&list=PL2019F934A3AA4D1B&index=7
Dec 07 17:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	jesus i rank in google for conversation worthless
Dec 07 17:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	Subscriptions require a PayPal account, but there is an option pay annually (non-recurring) where you can just use credit/debit card, without a PayPal account. Get in touch for details.
Dec 07 17:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies : no btc ? shame on them
Dec 07 17:17:44 <Namjies>	What?
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Dec 07 17:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	o nm, was directed at pigeons
Dec 07 17:20:53 <pigeons>	yeah, i see coinbase on there, which i haven't tried, not a big hosted wallet fan
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Dec 07 17:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053185 = 2.2981 BTC [-]
Dec 07 17:33:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15416 @ 0.00053214 = 8.2035 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 18:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052728 = 2.2784 BTC [-]
Dec 07 18:11:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10129 @ 0.000527 = 5.338 BTC [-]
Dec 07 18:23:12 <Ukto>	kakobreklaaa ?
Dec 07 18:23:38 <Ukto>	system should be working acurately for twatter. https://twitter.com/BitFunder
Dec 07 18:23:46 <Ukto>	Once I get the new logo I need to stick it up
Dec 07 18:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	trade:5@:Bit-Inc:1323127519
Dec 07 18:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	meaningless innit ? 5@what ?
Dec 07 18:27:54 <jurov>	i believe the bot is here: https://github.com/nanotube/supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor
Dec 07 18:31:11 <smickles>	Namjies: thx :)
Dec 07 18:32:16 <smickles>	lol, google ad: "Homeland Security Program - www.AMU.APUS.edu/HomelandSecurity - Expand Your World with a Degree in Homeland Security."
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Dec 07 18:35:42 <jurov>	that would make me think why i'm considered target audience
Dec 07 18:36:41 <Ukto>	weird
Dec 07 18:36:45 <Ukto>	not sure why it didnt have the price
Dec 07 18:36:46 <Ukto>	its there now
Dec 07 18:37:20 <jurov>	the numbers in the end are timestamp?
Dec 07 18:39:31 <jurov>	^ Ukto
Dec 07 18:41:00 <smickles>	jurov: well, back when I had graduated highschool, each branch of the military did attempt to recruit me into their intelegence divisions. ... until i told them that I had authority issues. maybe DHS didn't get the memo
Dec 07 18:41:41 <jurov>	Ukto also, what do you think about implementing "Teh Unified Protocol" http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/towards-a-unified-exchange-protocol/ :P
Dec 07 18:42:47 <jurov>	smickles, good for you
Dec 07 18:42:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005318 = 2.2979 BTC [+]
Dec 07 18:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00053214 = 2.0642 BTC [+]
Dec 07 18:44:44 <Ukto>	jurov: timestamp at the end
Dec 07 18:45:46 <Ukto>	jurov: heh, you know, when I mentioned I was setting up for the twatter crap, etc, no one bothreed to throw it out then :P
Dec 07 18:47:05 <Ukto>	besides, is Mpex using it? https://twitter.com/MPEx1
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Dec 07 18:48:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10579 @ 0.00053214 = 5.6295 BTC [+]
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Dec 07 18:49:15 <jurov>	i think teh protocol doesn't concern itself with twatter... but timestamp is nice addition
Dec 07 18:49:56 <jurov>	besides, live.coinbr.com rather uses RSS and JSON directly from source
Dec 07 18:54:01 <Ukto>	"source" ?
Dec 07 18:54:08 *	Ukto only made the twatter for the bot here tbh
Dec 07 18:54:25 <Ukto>	so I figured I to use glbse's basic layout so it would be easy fo kakobreklaaa to add
Dec 07 18:54:43 <Ukto>	the actual api-json listing will be quite a bit nicer
Dec 07 18:55:03 <jurov>	"source" i mean polimedia.us
Dec 07 18:55:11 <JWU42>	missed the comments from psychoB earlier this morning
Dec 07 18:55:25 <Ukto>	?
Dec 07 18:55:39 <Ukto>	jurov: so you just want the timestamp changed? hehe
Dec 07 18:55:49 <jurov>	?
Dec 07 18:56:04 <jurov>	i have absolutely no issue with the timestamp
Dec 07 18:56:16 <kakobreklaaa>	um assbot is not supy
Dec 07 18:56:17 <Ukto>	I think I am completely misunderstanding what your wanting then hehe
Dec 07 18:56:26 <Ukto>	supy?
Dec 07 18:56:34 <kakobreklaaa>	also timestamp is there because of twitter will mute 'dupe' orders
Dec 07 18:56:39 <JWU42>	http://dpaste.com/842754/
Dec 07 18:56:55 <kakobreklaaa>	twit must be uniqe
Dec 07 18:57:15 <Ukto>	ah
Dec 07 18:57:23 <Ukto>	I will add micerotime onto the ts then
Dec 07 18:57:36 <jurov>	Ukto, i'm not wanting anything particular, just poking a bit
Dec 07 18:57:56 <Ukto>	jurov: I am happy to do w/e for ppl. Just need to understand what it is. (I can be dense. ;)
Dec 07 18:58:08 <Ukto>	thanks for pointing that out kakobreklaaa
Dec 07 18:58:16 <jurov>	dense? you're in good comapny then ;)
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Dec 07 18:58:22 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 07 19:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1076 @ 0.00052726 = 0.5673 BTC [-]
Dec 07 19:14:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3245 @ 0.00052726 = 1.711 BTC [-]
Dec 07 19:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4028 @ 0.00052707 = 2.123 BTC [-]
Dec 07 19:19:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5370 @ 0.0033 = 17.721 BTC [-]
Dec 07 19:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	a DEGREE in homeland security ?
Dec 07 19:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	omfg the gestapo is back.
Dec 07 19:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	<Ukto> jurov: heh, you know, when I mentioned I was setting up for the twatter crap, etc, no one bothreed to throw it out then :P << i had a number of times, but it's not for twitter, it's in general.
Dec 07 19:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	to talk to your exchange.
Dec 07 19:20:54 <mircea_popescu>	JWU42 i wouldn't get too excited. a lot of people are dealing with a lot of greif as best they can.
Dec 07 19:21:13 <JWU42>	mircea_popescu: yeah - understood
Dec 07 19:21:35 <JWU42>	but it is fair to say that my wo partners current fiscal mess is impacting YABMC
Dec 07 19:21:41 <mircea_popescu>	the day glbse went down everyone in the know was "oh shit, check out the wave of 20 dollar investors tsunami nao"
Dec 07 19:21:42 <JWU42>	two*
Dec 07 19:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	so... yeah.
Dec 07 19:22:21 <JWU42>	as some have said on the forums - it is similar to the morgage meltdown here
Dec 07 19:22:40 <JWU42>	the handful of larger lenders didn't realize how intertwined they were
Dec 07 19:22:51 <JWU42>	and played it far too loose (self included)
Dec 07 19:23:06 <JWU42>	and the one major event of Pirate brought many down
Dec 07 19:23:51 <JWU42>	but to his question - I have every intent TO pay
Dec 07 19:24:23 <JWU42>	timing and amount is the question - especially if it ends up that 2/3 of YABMC cannot pay (HK and PH)
Dec 07 19:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	last iirc from hashking was something ridiculous like 1/3 in 3 years.
Dec 07 19:26:21 <JWU42>	yeah - that is what I read
Dec 07 19:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	ph is proper screwed, so, i'd be much surprised.
Dec 07 19:26:38 <Namjies>	mircea: That sums pretty much 90% of people on my lists.
Dec 07 19:26:40 <JWU42>	they are both in deep for sure
Dec 07 19:26:52 <JWU42>	I am in deep - just not as deep
Dec 07 19:27:11 <JWU42>	the losses are more personal and not OPM
Dec 07 19:27:20 <JWU42>	or OPC
Dec 07 19:27:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7646 @ 0.00052769 = 4.0347 BTC [+]
Dec 07 19:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053192 = 2.2984 BTC [+]
Dec 07 19:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12383 @ 0.00053214 = 6.5895 BTC [+]
Dec 07 19:27:48 <JWU42>	for those not following (other peoples coins)
Dec 07 19:29:44 <jurov>	ôôticker
Dec 07 19:29:49 <jurov>	;;ticker
Dec 07 19:29:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.49991, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 13.49991, 24 hour volume: 32116.39802185, 24 hour low: 12.97500, 24 hour high: 13.54900, 24 hour vwap: 13.35262
Dec 07 19:32:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 293 @ 0.00052707 = 0.1544 BTC [-]
Dec 07 19:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9815 @ 0.000527 = 5.1725 BTC [-]
Dec 07 19:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00052312 = 6.8006 BTC [-]
Dec 07 19:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2114 @ 0.00052289 = 1.1054 BTC [-]
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Dec 07 19:40:19 <Namjies>	rg, don't forget to distribute this month!
Dec 07 19:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052307 = 2.2602 BTC [+]
Dec 07 19:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6229 @ 0.00052289 = 3.2571 BTC [-]
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Dec 07 19:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4700 @ 0.0033 = 15.51 BTC [-]
Dec 07 19:46:28 <mircea_popescu>	hm, has rg said anything to anyone of late ?
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Dec 07 19:52:21 <Namjies>	I spoke to him less than a week ago.
Dec 07 19:52:34 <Namjies>	He answers PM sometimes.
Dec 07 19:52:57 <Namjies>	But he said he's been working 60+ hours weeks so aye, he's not always here to talk.
Dec 07 19:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Dec 07 19:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053193 = 2.2985 BTC [+]
Dec 07 19:54:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9779 @ 0.00053214 = 5.2038 BTC [+]
Dec 07 20:07:34 <smickles>	jebus giga, the amount of shit you eat, yet you yourself shit flowers
Dec 07 20:08:02 <smickles>	srsly, insert insult, exit plesant statement
Dec 07 20:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	smickles the worst part is that the most heard explanation as to why people won't list is that "they don't want to put up with the shitheads on the forum etc"
Dec 07 20:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	and sadly i don't have an answer to that one yet.
Dec 07 20:10:21 <Namjies>	Ah yes, on that part, Giga has been examplary. No matter how many insults you throw at him, not resort to getting mad and start name calling too.
Dec 07 20:10:36 <Namjies>	Who says they won't list what?
Dec 07 20:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies and as you can see, it does precious good, they still do it.
Dec 07 20:12:27 <Namjies>	Well it doesn't do much to improve the situation. But it prevents the situation from worsening.
Dec 07 20:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005231 = 2.2603 BTC [-]
Dec 07 20:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8479 @ 0.00052289 = 4.4336 BTC [-]
Dec 07 20:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	i fail to see the difference. mpoe-pr brings a bigger stick, giga is always nice. overall the count of idiocy thrown at either is the same.
Dec 07 20:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	which is unsurprising, seeing how it's a function of the number of idiots running around, not a function of what they do
Dec 07 20:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	(this being the very definition of idiocy)
Dec 07 20:13:50 <Namjies>	If he were to insult back people, a bit like Usagi or some others did, well it's akin to extinguishing fire with kerosene. It's counter-productive.
Dec 07 20:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	usagi isn't a good example.
Dec 07 20:14:21 <Namjies>	Maybe not.
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Dec 07 20:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	he's a liability to himself whatever he says.
Dec 07 20:17:00 <Namjies>	But people are angry at a situation and makes a colorful statements. You can take the time to answer the (more or less) coherent parts nicely or insult back. Replying someone accusing you of scamming you with a nice "fuck you too" is not very useful.
Dec 07 20:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	you posit this as a point of personal prejudice.
Dec 07 20:17:48 <mircea_popescu>	fact of the matter is, the results are about the same whether you beat up the idiots or are nice to them.
Dec 07 20:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	of course, if you're an idiot yourself the results won't be the same (hence, usagi)
Dec 07 20:18:11 <mircea_popescu>	but that's besides the point.
Dec 07 20:20:00 <Namjies>	If you insult them without anything else, it just gets them angrier.
Dec 07 20:20:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053192 = 2.2984 BTC [+]
Dec 07 20:20:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2279 @ 0.00053214 = 1.2127 BTC [+]
Dec 07 20:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	that's true.
Dec 07 20:21:20 <Namjies>	Hence why I state staying calm when an angry mob hurls insults at you is preferable to screaming back at them.
Dec 07 20:21:39 <Namjies>	Not that not screaming back at them calms them.
Dec 07 20:21:48 <Namjies>	Or has any positive results.
Dec 07 20:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	you can scare them straight. you just need to have the guts to actually do it.
Dec 07 20:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	if you do it half way... well... that won't be pretty.
Dec 07 20:23:16 <Namjies>	Well perhaps you'll be able to demonstrate that then... I hardly see how, for example, Giga could scare people away.
Dec 07 20:26:33 <smickles>	oh jeeze, I just received the first claim which does not match with the data from nefario
Dec 07 20:28:37 <Namjies>	I had a few of those
Dec 07 20:28:49 <Namjies>	Most have been corrected by now in updates sent by Nefario
Dec 07 20:29:03 <Namjies>	Not a single false claim so far, as far as I know.
Dec 07 20:29:12 <Namjies>	It's pretty amazing
Dec 07 20:29:22 <Namjies>	I was not expecting that.
Dec 07 20:32:11 <smickles>	this one was a ~1% shareholder apparently
Dec 07 20:33:38 <Namjies>	Eh, I had claims not on nefario's first list for up to ~20%
Dec 07 20:34:27 <smickles>	if nefario's list is to be believed, that's not possible in my case
Dec 07 20:34:56 <Namjies>	Ah, goes over the issued shares?
Dec 07 20:35:33 <smickles>	naw, nefario's list accounts for > 95% of shares
Dec 07 20:36:00 <Namjies>	Oh.
Dec 07 20:36:01 <smickles>	I thought it was a complete list at first
Dec 07 20:36:35 <Namjies>	Mines were far from complete. Unnoficial claims and updates from nefario are become less and less.
Dec 07 20:36:52 <Namjies>	At this rate there will be ~10%-30% unclaimed on each issue.
Dec 07 20:37:47 <smickles>	I feel for this person's position, /they make a claim /me says it doesn't match /they must think i just told them to sit and spin left 3 times
Dec 07 20:37:58 <Namjies>	Except BTC-BOND, I had 269 BTC loans from that
Dec 07 20:38:21 <Namjies>	of which 2 x 100 BTC claims and 1 x 50 BTC
Dec 07 20:38:48 <Namjies>	3 people pretty much had all of it.
Dec 07 20:39:12 <smickles>	how about that
Dec 07 20:39:23 <smickles>	what did you need an exchange for then?
Dec 07 20:39:59 <Namjies>	Eh, I didn't know who had anything.
Dec 07 20:40:44 <Namjies>	People don't typically lend such large sums on the OTC.
Dec 07 20:41:13 <Namjies>	It was also simplier to manage more loans, wether a fraction of a BTC or large amounts.
Dec 07 20:42:21 <smickles>	well, i was speaking terms of hindsight, and annoyance at this whole situation
Dec 07 20:43:16 <Namjies>	Ah, well it's still an easy one to manage even with the situation.
Dec 07 20:45:07 <Namjies>	oh hey, I have 31 shares of SS apparently.
Dec 07 20:46:02 <smickles>	well, sign something with the claim address and send that message and sig to me signed by your WoT id, preferrably
Dec 07 20:46:29 <smickles>	ack, what did i just type
Dec 07 20:47:13 <smickles>	well, sign something with the claim address and send that message to me signed by your WoT id, preferrably
Dec 07 20:47:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052304 = 2.2601 BTC [-]
Dec 07 20:47:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7229 @ 0.00052289 = 3.78 BTC [-]
Dec 07 20:47:42 <smickles>	arg, let's try again
Dec 07 20:47:53 <smickles>	well, sign something with the claim address and send that message and signature to me signed by your WoT id, preferrably
Dec 07 20:48:04 <smickles>	it's really simple, i swear
Dec 07 20:48:42 <smickles>	oh yeah, you need to tell me the addy too, so that I can verify the first sig w/o guesswork
Dec 07 20:52:20 <Namjies>	Can't I just receive payments at shown address when available eh?
Dec 07 20:54:10 <Namjies>	Here's a signature from said bitcoin address stating I'm Namjies on #bitcoin-otc on freenode: http://pastebin.com/9fDgB1Bj
Dec 07 20:57:46 <Namjies>	As for a statement from me... well I'm currently authed, do I really need to sign what I say to you?
Dec 07 20:58:22 <Namjies>	If I had to change payment address, I'd sign with the GLBSE address.
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Dec 07 21:05:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053205 = 2.299 BTC [+]
Dec 07 21:05:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3232 @ 0.00053214 = 1.7199 BTC [+]
Dec 07 21:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1504 @ 0.00053214 = 0.8003 BTC [+]
Dec 07 21:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6543 @ 0.00053227 = 3.4826 BTC [+]
Dec 07 21:22:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052294 = 2.2596 BTC [-]
Dec 07 21:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10949 @ 0.00052289 = 5.7251 BTC [-]
Dec 07 21:25:46 <smickles>	Namjies: fine with me on all counts, except that I don't recognize the format of that signature
Dec 07 21:26:14 <smickles>	i'm used to them looking like IIRqUyEb9WhOKj/kDzSzNaOTPM5Of/FHwMyVC5z3+HU+3Sjt1G0jUwOFP9rUfKAEZTU4I5bUTXDkv+MS9F4CZc0=
Dec 07 21:27:28 <Namjies>	oh, the Bitcoin-QT client
Dec 07 21:27:36 <Namjies>	yeah... I hate that
Dec 07 21:27:51 <Namjies>	Different clients, different methods of signing
Dec 07 21:27:58 <Namjies>	It's an Armory signature
Dec 07 21:28:36 <smickles>	let me look into what that entails, unless you want to do additional work, that should be fine :)
Dec 07 21:30:45 <Namjies>	It entails opening armory, opening the message signing dialog in the tools menu and clicking on the import signature button
Dec 07 21:31:05 <Namjies>	Then you get a nice window to paste a signature block.
Dec 07 21:31:29 <Namjies>	Easy process
Dec 07 21:32:01 <smickles>	aw, c'mon, i can't dig thru the armory code to find the method they use and write a python script to imitate the verification?
Dec 07 21:32:48 <smickles>	oh hey, i see .py files anyway
Dec 07 21:32:56 <Namjies>	Well yes, you can
Dec 07 21:33:28 <Namjies>	If you prefer to do it that way.
Dec 07 21:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00052282 = 3.9734 BTC [-]
Dec 07 21:50:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005224 = 2.2573 BTC [-]
Dec 07 21:50:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7979 @ 0.00052229 = 4.1674 BTC [-]
Dec 07 21:51:43 <smickles>	ok, found the relevant section of code
Dec 07 21:52:00 *	smickles puts on his propeller hat, dunce cap at the ready
Dec 07 21:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1301 @ 0.00333853 = 4.3434 BTC [+]
Dec 07 21:56:18 *	smickles removes propeller hat, securely attaches dunce cap and installs armory
Dec 07 21:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052278 = 2.2589 BTC [+]
Dec 07 21:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3180 @ 0.00052282 = 1.6626 BTC [+]
Dec 07 21:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00052621 = 5.4989 BTC [+]
Dec 07 21:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.0005302 = 6.5215 BTC [+]
Dec 07 21:59:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4649 @ 0.00053227 = 2.4745 BTC [+]
Dec 07 22:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00053178 = 1.1965 BTC [-]
Dec 07 22:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053216 = 2.2995 BTC [+]
Dec 07 22:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2908 @ 0.00053227 = 1.5478 BTC [+]
Dec 07 22:27:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14602 @ 0.00053232 = 7.7729 BTC [+]
Dec 07 22:29:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053198 = 2.2987 BTC [-]
Dec 07 22:29:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1845 @ 0.00053232 = 0.9821 BTC [+]
Dec 07 22:55:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00052558 = 1.8133 BTC [-]
Dec 07 23:04:59 <Ukto>	hmm, miss anything intersting?
Dec 07 23:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052577 = 2.2719 BTC [+]
Dec 07 23:06:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052568 = 2.2715 BTC [-]
Dec 07 23:06:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00052558 = 4.1784 BTC [-]
Dec 07 23:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2708 @ 0.00052432 = 1.4199 BTC [-]
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Dec 07 23:53:01 <Garr255>	hey guys, cognitive is live again! https://btct.co/security/COGNITIVE
Dec 07 23:53:53 <Namjies>	who manages btct.co?
Dec 07 23:54:29 <Garr255>	burnside
Dec 07 23:54:45 <Namjies>	Ah.
Dec 07 23:54:51 <Garr255>	I trust him. He also manages litecoin global
Dec 08 00:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.0005246 = 6.2165 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 00:09:26 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 08 00:09:32 <Ukto>	garr: i saw some weirdness earlier
Dec 08 00:09:37 <Ukto>	when i first logged in
Dec 08 00:09:43 <Ukto>	there were a bunch of trades listed for the asset
Dec 08 00:09:47 <Ukto>	then they all dissapeared
Dec 08 00:09:54 <Ukto>	went down to just 3
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Dec 08 00:13:26 <Garr255>	Ukto, I've never seen more than the 3, that is odd indeed.
Dec 08 00:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.0005246 = 1.023 BTC [+]
Dec 08 00:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00053025 = 11.1618 BTC [+]
Dec 08 00:15:24 <Ukto>	it was much earlier
Dec 08 00:15:33 <Ukto>	listed all the transactions within about 2 min of each other
Dec 08 00:15:47 <Ukto>	it was interseting, the total was the difference between total shares and outstanding
Dec 08 00:16:18 <Garr255>	Ukto, it must have been the way the shares were moved from the holding account to the newly created shareholders' accounts
Dec 08 00:16:29 <Ukto>	probably
Dec 08 00:16:36 <Ukto>	and then they reset the trade history
Dec 08 00:16:47 <Garr255>	burnside made an awesome script that does everything, so yeah that's likely what happened
Dec 08 00:16:54 <Ukto>	hehe
Dec 08 00:17:09 <Ukto>	At first I about fell out of my chair in awe of the transactions hehe
Dec 08 00:17:21 <Ukto>	when I saw it had reset, I figured it was probably just that
Dec 08 00:17:22 <Garr255>	haha
Dec 08 00:17:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17392 @ 0.00052432 = 9.119 BTC [-]
Dec 08 00:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6408 @ 0.00052229 = 3.3468 BTC [-]
Dec 08 00:17:27 <Garr255>	yep
Dec 08 00:17:47 <Ukto>	i was debating throwing all my solo-mined ltc at some shares of ltc-global
Dec 08 00:18:00 <Ukto>	built up quite a stash
Dec 08 00:18:05 <Ukto>	never exchanged em
Dec 08 00:18:52 <Ukto>	I saw you pushed off the big div payout to next week
Dec 08 00:19:15 <Ukto>	if you make a div payout, what happens to the divs that goto the ppl who have not claimed yet?
Dec 08 00:19:48 <Ukto>	I kinda figured the divs would have gone out to all the holders at re-launch
Dec 08 00:20:03 <Ukto>	rather than making them hold back from selling any shares, and dilute it with the new ones
Dec 08 00:24:19 <Ukto>	but thats just me. hehe
Dec 08 00:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16530 @ 0.00052804 = 8.7285 BTC [+]
Dec 08 00:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053018 = 2.2909 BTC [+]
Dec 08 00:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1079 @ 0.00053025 = 0.5721 BTC [+]
Dec 08 00:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052808 = 2.2818 BTC [-]
Dec 08 00:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4679 @ 0.00052804 = 2.4707 BTC [-]
Dec 08 00:39:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13941 @ 0.00052804 = 7.3614 BTC [-]
Dec 08 00:39:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1309 @ 0.00052229 = 0.6837 BTC [-]
Dec 08 00:46:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052242 = 2.2574 BTC [+]
Dec 08 00:46:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3079 @ 0.00052229 = 1.6081 BTC [-]
Dec 08 00:47:43 <Garr255>	Ukto, All of the already issued and unclaimed shares' dividends go to a holding account, where the shares and respective dividends are held until they are claimed
Dec 08 00:48:16 <Namjies>	I have just received a payment on my GLBSE address
Dec 08 00:48:18 <Ukto>	but thats after you do the big div payout
Dec 08 00:48:19 <Ukto>	right?
Dec 08 00:48:27 <Ukto>	next week?
Dec 08 00:48:34 <Ukto>	Namjies: yay
Dec 08 00:48:36 <Ukto>	hows it look
Dec 08 00:48:46 <Namjies>	Small and from an unkown source
Dec 08 00:48:52 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 08 00:48:55 <Namjies>	0.12 bitcoin
Dec 08 00:49:11 <Ukto>	wtf? lol
Dec 08 00:49:20 <Namjies>	What? GLBSE addresses were given to all issuers and I had lots of things.
Dec 08 00:49:26 <Ukto>	what assets did you hold ?
Dec 08 00:49:27 <Ukto>	ahh
Dec 08 00:49:50 <Ukto>	i wasnt allwoed to claim my few shares of things on glbse
Dec 08 00:49:59 <Ukto>	somehow my 2fa or account in general would not work
Dec 08 00:50:01 <Ukto>	nefario wouldnt fix it
Dec 08 00:50:05 <Ukto>	couldnt claim. end of story.
Dec 08 00:50:33 <Namjies>	When I bought back things from my lists, I at least sent an email detailing how the amount was calculated and from which address to which address it was sent.
Dec 08 00:50:42 <Namjies>	What did you held?
Dec 08 00:50:48 <Ukto>	some JAH
Dec 08 00:50:55 <Ukto>	and uhh, i dont recall what else anymore...
Dec 08 00:51:11 <Ukto>	like 10 mroe shares of something else
Dec 08 00:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12387 @ 0.00052229 = 6.4696 BTC [-]
Dec 08 00:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9413 @ 0.00052192 = 4.9128 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 00:51:26 <Ukto>	i only used the account 3 more times after my account was 'hacked' that time magically
Dec 08 00:51:33 <Ukto>	and then got tired of nefario and stopped touching it
Dec 08 00:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6492 @ 0.00052192 = 3.3883 BTC [-]
Dec 08 00:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00052087 = 3.1252 BTC [-]
Dec 08 00:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6308 @ 0.00052067 = 3.2844 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 01:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.0005239 = 7.6227 BTC [+]
Dec 08 01:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00052067 = 0.1822 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 01:22:12 <smickles>	lol, i think the spammers are swapping notes,
Dec 08 01:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00052067 = 5.3889 BTC [-]
Dec 08 01:22:23 <smickles>	subject: RAM IT IN YOUR ASS
Dec 08 01:22:25 <smickles>	body:
Dec 08 01:22:40 <smickles>	Hello, I represent the late Titus Carver...
Dec 08 01:28:20 <mod6>	haha
Dec 08 01:36:48 <Namjies>	Oh damn
Dec 08 01:37:00 <Namjies>	I know why I always get a Bad Signature from gpg
Dec 08 01:37:22 <Namjies>	Ah wait, nvm
Dec 08 01:37:26 <Namjies>	It's still bad
Dec 08 01:38:03 <smickles>	it's ok Namjies, just watch this: http://youtu.be/NFR-ADakI-c
Dec 08 01:42:52 <Namjies>	I always get a bad signature when copying a gpg signed message from windows command line.
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Dec 08 01:44:15 <Namjies>	Would you happen to know how to solve that?
Dec 08 01:45:44 <Namjies>	Says unkown certificate... and shows a fingerprint in my list of trusted certificates...
Dec 08 01:52:00 <Namjies>	argh
Dec 08 01:52:35 <Namjies>	fuck this gpg signing thing, why does it never want to work properly?
Dec 08 01:54:51 <Namjies>	Anyone on linux and has gpg?
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Dec 08 02:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053007 = 2.2904 BTC [+]
Dec 08 02:20:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3121 @ 0.00053025 = 1.6549 BTC [+]
Dec 08 02:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18558 @ 0.00053238 = 9.8799 BTC [+]
Dec 08 02:26:33 <Namjies>	Damn fucking damn
Dec 08 02:27:31 <Namjies>	I had to manually sign, encrypt, submit to MPEx and then decrypt and then verify file for it to work
Dec 08 02:27:46 <Namjies>	The windows command line must be screwing the formatting
Dec 08 02:29:56 <mod6>	maybe got some ^M's in there
Dec 08 02:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	<Namjies> Different clients, different methods of signing << this is such a horrible thing ;/
Dec 08 02:32:53 <mircea_popescu>	<Ukto> i only used the account 3 more times after my account was 'hacked' that time magically <<< you too ?!
Dec 08 02:33:42 <mircea_popescu>	what's up Namjies ?
Dec 08 02:34:10 <mircea_popescu>	prolly put it through a s//r//n//n/
Dec 08 02:34:31 *	Ukto patpats MP
Dec 08 02:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	dude srlsy, six months ago nefario was in here explaining how omg wtf am i fud-ing his great exchange by saying the session get hijacked
Dec 08 02:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	it only happened once and it was user's fault.
Dec 08 02:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	turns out it WASNT ONCE
Dec 08 02:40:30 <Namjies>	Could you explain further?
Dec 08 02:40:39 <Namjies>	about the s//r//n//n/ thing?
Dec 08 02:43:11 <Namjies>	I can say one thing. In notepad, I cannot see linebreaks for the correct file I obtained manually with gpg signing, but I can for the copy-paste from windows command line. In Notepad++, I can see linebreaks for both.
Dec 08 02:43:27 <Namjies>	So it's obviously a formatting issue
Dec 08 02:44:20 <Ukto>	back in may, around the middle of may to end
Dec 08 02:44:35 <Ukto>	he told me some other ip logged into my account, and dumped som 100btc worth of JAH shares down teh tube
Dec 08 02:44:38 <Ukto>	and withdrwa the btc
Dec 08 02:44:50 <Ukto>	was enough to kill the buys on the asset
Dec 08 02:44:59 <Ukto>	when i asked for the other ip
Dec 08 02:45:01 <Ukto>	he refused.
Dec 08 02:45:07 <Ukto>	end of story, have a great day.
Dec 08 02:46:00 <Ukto>	at that point my system was supposedly infected, which it was not, or i reused a user/pass
Dec 08 02:46:07 <Ukto>	which I actually did from btc-e
Dec 08 02:46:32 <Ukto>	I honestly do question btc-e :P but it was still my fault as Diablo-D3 pointed out, for not having 2fa
Dec 08 02:46:34 <Ukto>	so I gav eup
Dec 08 02:46:44 <Namjies>	woohoo... I manually sanitized my copy-paste from windows command line
Dec 08 02:47:34 <Namjies>	by using show all characters in Notepad++ and making all the whitespace match
Dec 08 02:48:34 <Namjies>	Windows command prompt also adds extra linebreaks because it refuses having lines longer than X characters.
Dec 08 02:50:50 <Namjies>	I'm glad to know I can actually use gpg correctly
Dec 08 02:51:04 <Namjies>	I can see why gpg was giving me so much problems now.
Dec 08 02:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053206 = 2.299 BTC [-]
Dec 08 02:53:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5679 @ 0.00053238 = 3.0234 BTC [+]
Dec 08 02:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies the problem is that new lines in windows are /r/b
Dec 08 02:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	and on linux simply /n
Dec 08 02:56:24 <mircea_popescu>	99% of the time it's what fucks up gpg signed stuff
Dec 08 02:56:47 <mircea_popescu>	 /r/n above obviously not /b
Dec 08 02:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto teh suck.
Dec 08 02:57:49 <mircea_popescu>	and to think all those idiots were making a living wall around nefario, the forum is incredible.
Dec 08 03:07:28 <drug_motor>	http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/442267532 protip select no style pagestyle
Dec 08 03:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052146 = 2.2532 BTC [-]
Dec 08 03:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4087 @ 0.00052117 = 2.13 BTC [-]
Dec 08 03:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052566 = 2.2714 BTC [+]
Dec 08 03:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10479 @ 0.000526 = 5.512 BTC [+]
Dec 08 03:33:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 580 @ 0.1714009 = 99.4125 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 03:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14923 @ 0.00052117 = 7.7774 BTC [-]
Dec 08 03:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12853 @ 0.00052067 = 6.6922 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 03:55:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00052091 = 1.2241 BTC [+]
Dec 08 03:59:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1971 @ 0.00052091 = 1.0267 BTC [+]
Dec 08 03:59:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16671 @ 0.00052067 = 8.6801 BTC [-]
Dec 08 03:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 316 @ 0.2247916 = 71.0341 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052082 = 2.2505 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19318 @ 0.00052067 = 10.0583 BTC [-]
Dec 08 04:13:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 734 @ 0.00052062 = 0.3821 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 04:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1613 @ 0.00335868 = 5.4176 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:17:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 68 @ 0.00336177 = 0.2286 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12135 @ 0.00052062 = 6.3177 BTC [-]
Dec 08 04:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052119 = 2.2521 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00052126 = 4.952 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15229 @ 0.000526 = 8.0105 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:51:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1632 @ 0.00336177 = 5.4864 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 718 @ 0.0033662 = 2.4169 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052591 = 2.2725 BTC [-]
Dec 08 04:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.000526 = 2.0209 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6746 @ 0.00052628 = 3.5503 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 200 @ 0.25429173 = 50.8583 BTC [+]
Dec 08 04:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-welfare-spending-chart-you-wont-want-to-see/
Dec 08 04:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty good
Dec 08 05:03:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052959 = 2.2884 BTC [+]
Dec 08 05:03:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00052979 = 1.3775 BTC [+]
Dec 08 05:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15266 @ 0.00053238 = 8.1273 BTC [+]
Dec 08 05:07:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12942 @ 0.00053238 = 6.8901 BTC [+]
Dec 08 05:07:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21403 @ 0.00053248 = 11.3967 BTC [+]
Dec 08 05:15:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000528 = 2.2815 BTC [-]
Dec 08 05:15:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3191 @ 0.00052777 = 1.6841 BTC [-]
Dec 08 05:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4453 @ 0.0005235 = 2.3311 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 05:25:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 940 @ 0.20783398 = 195.3639 BTC [+]
Dec 08 05:26:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005237 = 2.2629 BTC [+]
Dec 08 05:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16179 @ 0.0005235 = 8.4697 BTC [-]
Dec 08 05:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 940 @ 0.12671029 = 119.1077 BTC [+]
Dec 08 05:27:49 <Diablo-D3>	https://plus.google.com/u/0/106097345901210573856/posts/bYczSq6EGwQ
Dec 08 05:27:55 <Diablo-D3>	scroll down to my comment
Dec 08 05:28:07 <Diablo-D3>	I just trolled someone using math and logic
Dec 08 05:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1262 @ 0.00053246 = 0.672 BTC [+]
Dec 08 05:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	"The US Government isn't dependent on income for spending because it makes the money. The US government doesn't work like your checkbook, your household, your state, or even Greece. It goes by different economic rules, so it can run a massive debt and not go bankrupt. It can always pay that debt back (although some caution is warranted when doing so, because the debt itself often serves a purpose)."
Dec 08 05:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	i like these people running around. it's like... btctalk on a global scale
Dec 08 05:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	very amusing.
Dec 08 05:32:43 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: your pr-cunt has thrown a nice pile of shit in to the spinning fan. Where did you find this idiot?
Dec 08 05:32:56 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: read my comment next
Dec 08 05:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob more substance, less oppinion.
Dec 08 05:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i did.
Dec 08 05:33:19 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: did I or did I not troll?
Dec 08 05:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	with you one never knows.
Dec 08 05:33:36 <Diablo-D3>	bah!
Dec 08 05:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/thumb/f/f2/Trollface_More_HD.png/400px-Trollface_More_HD.png
Dec 08 05:34:30 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I want to see if anyone takes the bait on this one
Dec 08 05:34:58 <EskimoBob>	is she with you from your spamming days?
Dec 08 05:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Dec 08 05:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob wtf are you on about ?
Dec 08 05:35:25 <EskimoBob>	oh, don't be coy
Dec 08 05:35:56 <Diablo-D3>	wait, spamming days?
Dec 08 05:36:00 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu IS A SPAM KING?!
Dec 08 05:36:07 <Diablo-D3>	GASP!
Dec 08 05:36:08 <Diablo-D3>	SHOCK!
Dec 08 05:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 apparently child porn didn't stick so we're moving on.
Dec 08 05:36:27 <mircea_popescu>	have i been a paid assassin or is that up next in 2013 ?
Dec 08 05:36:54 <Diablo-D3>	I thought I was the paid assassin
Dec 08 05:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	aok
Dec 08 05:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	teh ciucius have to be moar careful, they'll run out of ominous things too soon at this rate.
Dec 08 05:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13068 @ 0.0005235 = 6.8411 BTC [-]
Dec 08 05:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2031 @ 0.00052062 = 1.0574 BTC [-]
Dec 08 05:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 701 @ 0.00052051 = 0.3649 BTC [-]
Dec 08 05:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob o, were you aggitated cause you thought she was saying you're a scammer ?
Dec 08 05:56:34 <PsychoticBoy>	so cry babies, hws life
Dec 08 05:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	pretty good psychoboy
Dec 08 05:57:06 <PsychoticBoy>	good to hear
Dec 08 06:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	how about you ?
Dec 08 06:13:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052069 = 2.2499 BTC [+]
Dec 08 06:13:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2743 @ 0.00052051 = 1.4278 BTC [-]
Dec 08 06:14:49 <PsychoticBoy>	JWU42, when are you planning to pay the oustanding dividends of YABMC and buy them since you closed the operation?
Dec 08 06:16:01 <PsychoticBoy>	You can forget that your scammer friends (hashking still ows me 150 BTC and Patrick Harnett)
Dec 08 06:16:07 <PsychoticBoy>	will ever pay you
Dec 08 06:17:13 <PsychoticBoy>	You got all the shareholders information, or are you playing dumb like most issuers
Dec 08 06:18:19 <PsychoticBoy>	hmmnz looks like I am talking to my dick, got no answer.... yet
Dec 08 06:18:52 *	Diablo-D3 uploads picture of PsychoticBoy to 4chan /d/
Dec 08 06:19:10 <PsychoticBoy>	link plz
Dec 08 06:19:34 *	Diablo-D3 smacks PsychoticBoy 
Dec 08 06:19:42 <PsychoticBoy>	lolz
Dec 08 06:20:39 <PsychoticBoy>	JWU42, most mining bond/share issuers already bought their outstanding shares back, Where are you waiting for?......Christmas?
Dec 08 06:20:52 <Diablo-D3>	did he even get the list yet?
Dec 08 06:20:57 <PsychoticBoy>	yuyp
Dec 08 06:21:02 <Diablo-D3>	oh kay
Dec 08 06:21:19 <PsychoticBoy>	I already got my lists of ABM, PGM and FDBF so
Dec 08 06:21:48 <PsychoticBoy>	ABM 99% complete PGM 45% complete FDBF 85% complete
Dec 08 06:22:03 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Dec 08 06:22:30 <PsychoticBoy>	I am delisting ABM on BitFunder
Dec 08 06:22:40 <PsychoticBoy>	MMM relisting
Dec 08 06:22:42 <Diablo-D3>	wow, you already relisted it?
Dec 08 06:22:56 <PsychoticBoy>	this weekend
Dec 08 06:22:58 <Diablo-D3>	Im going to have to relist DMC to shut it down
Dec 08 06:31:28 <PsychoticBoy>	Relisting or a buyback at reasonable price would be the best thing to do for asset issuers
Dec 08 06:31:37 <Diablo-D3>	well
Dec 08 06:31:42 <Diablo-D3>	Im relisting to get a reasonable price
Dec 08 06:31:45 <PsychoticBoy>	You dont want an angry Mob at your house, do you?
Dec 08 06:31:54 <Diablo-D3>	nefario basically fucked up dmc's future
Dec 08 06:32:07 <Diablo-D3>	it doesnt mean Im done
Dec 08 06:32:12 <PsychoticBoy>	he fucked up everyone
Dec 08 06:32:14 <Diablo-D3>	but Im going to have to take a different route to get there
Dec 08 06:32:33 <Diablo-D3>	and Im going to have to buy back all the dmc shares over the next few months before I can even start
Dec 08 06:32:44 <Diablo-D3>	and since Im not an asshole, Im going to use my own money to do it
Dec 08 06:34:18 <PsychoticBoy>	Strange thing is.... not to be a dick, but usagi claimed he had 148 ABM shares but my list is almost 100% complete but no one got 148 shares or close..... hmmmmn
Dec 08 06:34:36 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: well
Dec 08 06:34:44 <Diablo-D3>	did usagi even do a claim?
Dec 08 06:34:51 <Diablo-D3>	I thought he was saying he was going to refuse to
Dec 08 06:35:07 <PsychoticBoy>	that means usagi lied, also to BMF share holders, who had 148 shares of ABM according to usagi
Dec 08 06:35:23 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Dec 08 06:35:25 <Diablo-D3>	I dont think usagi even gives a fuck anymore
Dec 08 06:35:33 <PsychoticBoy>	BMF spreadsheet showd last time I can look, 148 shares ABM
Dec 08 06:35:45 <PsychoticBoy>	usagi IS a FUCK
Dec 08 06:35:50 <PsychoticBoy>	period
Dec 08 06:36:04 <PsychoticBoy>	lucky to get my coins back from him
Dec 08 06:36:15 <Diablo-D3>	I wasnt stupid enough to give him coins, so hey
Dec 08 06:36:23 <PsychoticBoy>	your luck
Dec 08 06:36:28 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: wait, whats his email?
Dec 08 06:36:31 <Diablo-D3>	he said he owned dmc too
Dec 08 06:36:41 <Diablo-D3>	I have partial lists
Dec 08 06:36:47 <PsychoticBoy>	I got only 1 mail address of him
Dec 08 06:37:15 <Diablo-D3>	I grepped for usagi, no usagi
Dec 08 06:37:35 <PsychoticBoy>	cpa@tsukino.ca, bmf@tsukino.ca, usagi@tsukino.ca
Dec 08 06:38:19 <Diablo-D3>	grep tsukino DMC1.yml
Dec 08 06:38:22 <Diablo-D3>	nadda.
Dec 08 06:39:33 <PsychoticBoy>	I can give DeadTerra a email to check if he has more email addresses of usagi/tsukino/ Oliver Richman etc
Dec 08 06:39:58 <Diablo-D3>	not in the other one tiehr
Dec 08 06:40:41 <mircea_popescu>	PsychoticBoy : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1386220#msg1386220
Dec 08 06:40:45 <mircea_popescu>	he's trolling about on the forum nao
Dec 08 06:40:47 <PsychoticBoy>	nope I read the whole list and no email seems to fit usagi
Dec 08 06:47:02 <PsychoticBoy>	I got 1 dubious email address
Dec 08 06:47:33 <PsychoticBoy>	but not seem to fit usagi
Dec 08 06:47:54 <PsychoticBoy>	its a .de emaildomaiin
Dec 08 06:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	moar scamer tag
Dec 08 06:50:59 <PsychoticBoy>	usagi does NOT have any shares of ABM
Dec 08 06:51:15 <PsychoticBoy>	no email found, contacted all in the list
Dec 08 06:51:39 <PsychoticBoy>	so he did say to share holders of BMF that they owned 148 shares of ABM
Dec 08 06:52:04 <PsychoticBoy>	lets get a screeny of that , can probably find one on the forum
Dec 08 06:52:52 <PsychoticBoy>	he also sold the BFL singles BMF bought, did he?
Dec 08 06:52:57 <PsychoticBoy>	TO HIM SELF!!
Dec 08 06:53:32 <PsychoticBoy>	oooh to CPA or NYAN, but its both usagi so TO HIM SELF!!
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Dec 08 06:55:10 <Diablo-D3>	okay so PsychoticBoy
Dec 08 06:55:18 <Diablo-D3>	my last count of dmc was 11909
Dec 08 06:55:36 <Diablo-D3>	the total of the lists is 11589
Dec 08 06:55:51 <PsychoticBoy>	your only ~320 short
Dec 08 06:55:54 <Diablo-D3>	so theres 320 shares unaccounted for
Dec 08 06:56:05 <Diablo-D3>	no, exactly 320
Dec 08 06:56:26 <Diablo-D3>	so lets assume he had more than 320 DMC
Dec 08 06:56:30 <Diablo-D3>	either he never held DMC
Dec 08 06:56:35 <Diablo-D3>	or we dont know his email
Dec 08 06:56:44 <PsychoticBoy>	most shares are claimed, probably the only ones who where left out are the ones that recieved a double payment or did not claim
Dec 08 06:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4319 @ 0.0005253 = 2.2688 BTC [+]
Dec 08 06:57:29 <Diablo-D3>	I think da2ce7 is the largest shareholder lol
Dec 08 07:02:47 <Diablo-D3>	what was Ukto's exchange called?
Dec 08 07:04:44 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: yo
Dec 08 07:05:16 <Diablo-D3>	I think its bitfunder
Dec 08 07:09:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6206 @ 0.00052051 = 3.2303 BTC [-]
Dec 08 07:09:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34450 @ 0.00052032 = 17.925 BTC [-]
Dec 08 07:09:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13044 @ 0.00051967 = 6.7786 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 07:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2 @ 0.0005253 = 0.0011 BTC [+]
Dec 08 07:11:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14779 @ 0.00052536 = 7.7643 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 07:12:18 <PsychoticBoy>	bitfunder, diablo
Dec 08 07:13:01 <Diablo-D3>	yeah thats what I thought
Dec 08 07:18:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005251 = 2.269 BTC [-]
Dec 08 07:18:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3229 @ 0.00052536 = 1.6964 BTC [+]
Dec 08 07:23:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14423 @ 0.00052536 = 7.5773 BTC [+]
Dec 08 07:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00052797 = 4.8573 BTC [+]
Dec 08 07:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18171 @ 0.00052882 = 9.6092 BTC [+]
Dec 08 07:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 400 @ 0.20725089 = 82.9004 BTC [-]
Dec 08 07:47:08 <JWU42>	PsychoticBoy: MOST mining companies?
Dec 08 07:47:14 <JWU42>	please explain who
Dec 08 07:47:21 <JWU42>	bought back their shares
Dec 08 07:47:31 <JWU42>	Pureminingm Bitbond and Giavpa have not
Dec 08 07:47:40 <PsychoticBoy>	PIMP, has
Dec 08 07:48:00 <JWU42>	OK - 1 has
Dec 08 07:48:01 <PsychoticBoy>	Jah is going to do it
Dec 08 07:48:21 <PsychoticBoy>	I was planning but I am relisting at Bitfunder
Dec 08 07:48:23 <JWU42>	and as I said there will be no buyback at .07
Dec 08 07:49:01 <JWU42>	and just reading your other question now
Dec 08 07:49:20 <JWU42>	when we payout - I am waiting to hear from hashking and Patrick on their status
Dec 08 07:49:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1882 @ 0.00336739 = 6.3374 BTC [+]
Dec 08 07:49:40 <PsychoticBoy>	hashking and patrick are broke
Dec 08 07:49:50 <PsychoticBoy>	so dont expect a dime from them
Dec 08 07:49:53 <JWU42>	as each of us had an amount of hashes to pay 2x weekly
Dec 08 07:50:10 <JWU42>	PsychoticBoy: I believe you are correct
Dec 08 07:50:13 <PsychoticBoy>	sure, maybe they did not even own that much hartdware
Dec 08 07:50:29 <JWU42>	hashking did for sure
Dec 08 07:50:32 <PsychoticBoy>	I only have 10Gh/s
Dec 08 07:50:34 <PsychoticBoy>	 atm
Dec 08 07:50:40 <JWU42>	I had my portion covered about 2x
Dec 08 07:51:23 <PsychoticBoy>	In case they dont pay up, you cant afford 0.07 but if they do then its a reasonable price
Dec 08 07:51:26 <JWU42>	so I know we have ~38% of the coupons ready (my share)
Dec 08 07:51:45 <JWU42>	.07 is NOT a reasonable price
Dec 08 07:51:53 <PsychoticBoy>	onlyu the coupon? no buyback money? you are also broke then
Dec 08 07:52:17 <JWU42>	Not broke, no
Dec 08 07:52:25 <PsychoticBoy>	what do you propose then?
Dec 08 07:52:44 <JWU42>	Paying out some portion of the coupons cumulated
Dec 08 07:52:53 <JWU42>	I don;'t know when and how much
Dec 08 07:53:01 <JWU42>	due to the PH and HK issues
Dec 08 07:53:14 <JWU42>	all this is in the thread
Dec 08 07:53:31 <PsychoticBoy>	and, I have pay`d for lifetime (perpetual) 1 mh/s shares
Dec 08 07:53:45 <JWU42>	I have been accumluating my portion of the coupons
Dec 08 07:53:47 <PsychoticBoy>	so 100% coupon for life
Dec 08 07:54:00 <PsychoticBoy>	at 1mh/s a share
Dec 08 07:54:05 <JWU42>	well - 1 Mh/s will be worth a few satoshis in a year
Dec 08 07:54:34 <PsychoticBoy>	so taht I did not have to buy new hardware, now I have to compensate that hashes, no you have
Dec 08 07:54:51 <JWU42>	What good is 1.5 Gh/s going to do for you
Dec 08 07:54:53 <PsychoticBoy>	1 year is future talk
Dec 08 07:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129740.0
Dec 08 07:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	so apparently bakewell's thing got declared worthless.
Dec 08 07:55:17 <JWU42>	hell - it makes less than 1.4 BTC a week now
Dec 08 07:55:17 <PsychoticBoy>	1.5 Gh/s is a lot for some, lets say I am that some ppl
Dec 08 07:55:23 <PsychoticBoy>	so
Dec 08 07:55:28 <PsychoticBoy>	 every btc is a btc
Dec 08 07:55:35 <PsychoticBoy>	I paid for it
Dec 08 07:55:38 <PsychoticBoy>	in advance
Dec 08 07:55:55 <JWU42>	Yes, as did I with other assets
Dec 08 07:56:07 <JWU42>	we are all getting screwed and elarning a lesson
Dec 08 07:56:21 <kakobreklaaa>	lesson? what lesson?
Dec 08 07:56:41 <JWU42>	We threw around BTC like it was play money
Dec 08 07:56:58 <JWU42>	there was not enough professionalism in the ventures being run
Dec 08 07:57:08 <kakobreklaaa>	there still isnt
Dec 08 07:57:09 <PsychoticBoy>	so, correct it then
Dec 08 07:57:19 <JWU42>	few people have the working capital to weather a shitstorm
Dec 08 07:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	where's a cheshire cat when you need one.
Dec 08 07:57:42 <PsychoticBoy>	I am doing the best I can, at this point most issuers are just taking
Dec 08 07:57:46 <JWU42>	and those that didn't happened to be big players and have killed many others in the process
Dec 08 07:59:10 <JWU42>	PsychoticBoy: Maybe I try to consolidate the ownership of YABMC to 5-10 holders and then payout until ASIC arrives
Dec 08 07:59:48 <PsychoticBoy>	payout when asics arrive, that would be never
Dec 08 08:00:17 <JWU42>	PsychoticBoy: you seem to be missing the point that there will be a payout
Dec 08 08:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	<JWU42> PsychoticBoy: Maybe I try to consolidate the ownership of YABMC to 5-10 holders and then payout until ASIC arrives << how's this work ?
Dec 08 08:00:24 <JWU42>	I have my portion of the BTC
Dec 08 08:00:48 <JWU42>	mircea_popescu: no idea - just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
Dec 08 08:00:54 <mircea_popescu>	bad strategy.
Dec 08 08:01:15 <JWU42>	mircea_popescu: the benefit is a simpler payout
Dec 08 08:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	if you want free advice, publish a clear piece delineating what you owe, what the other two owe, make a fixed date and a fixed payment.
Dec 08 08:01:25 <JWU42>	acocutning for share transfers = HUGE PITA
Dec 08 08:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	like i did with giga.etf, essentially.
Dec 08 08:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	sure, the regular idiots will make a lot of noise, but in principle it's the solution.
Dec 08 08:02:05 <JWU42>	mircea_popescu: I think that is where it is heading....
Dec 08 08:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	well, don't muck it up by first throwing things at the wal.
Dec 08 08:02:23 <JWU42>	I am trying to give PH and HK a chance to respond
Dec 08 08:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	dude. if ph was gonna respond it was going to be before i started ruining his life.
Dec 08 08:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't even bet he has what to respond with by now.
Dec 08 08:03:22 <JWU42>	I believe, as PsychoticBoy said, both are not in a position to pay anything
Dec 08 08:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	hk i have no idea, but i guess not.
Dec 08 08:03:37 <JWU42>	HK's hread says he owes thousands of BTC
Dec 08 08:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	that he'll repay 1/3 of in 3 years or some shit
Dec 08 08:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like kludge.
Dec 08 08:03:55 <JWU42>	exactly
Dec 08 08:04:10 <mircea_popescu>	another fuckwit empowered by the forum to act a part he wasn't cut for.
Dec 08 08:04:51 <JWU42>	The fucking Vegas meeting did many of us in
Dec 08 08:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	funny thing, the same know it alls are all offended nao. but anyway, it's how it goes.
Dec 08 08:05:19 <JWU42>	that was P's hail mary to keep people from pulling BTC
Dec 08 08:05:27 <JWU42>	as many were starting to
Dec 08 08:05:33 <JWU42>	self included
Dec 08 08:05:40 <JWU42>	oh well - that is my mess
Dec 08 08:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating genjix
Dec 08 08:07:12 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User genjix, rated since Sun Dec 19 21:40:18 2010. Cumulative rating -5, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 6 positive, 3 negative. Sent ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=genjix
Dec 08 08:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol that's cute
Dec 08 08:07:35 <JWU42>	;;getrating JWU42
Dec 08 08:07:36 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User JWU42, rated since Thu Mar 24 19:21:43 2011. Cumulative rating 66, from 31 total ratings. Received ratings: 31 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 29 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=JWU42
Dec 08 08:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4877 @ 0.00052605 = 2.5655 BTC [-]
Dec 08 08:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00052382 = 6.0501 BTC [-]
Dec 08 08:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7106 @ 0.00051967 = 3.6928 BTC [-]
Dec 08 08:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2767 @ 0.00051962 = 1.4378 BTC [-]
Dec 08 08:09:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate davout 1 bitcoin-central.net paymium etc
Dec 08 08:09:25 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user davout has been recorded.
Dec 08 08:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051973 = 2.2458 BTC [+]
Dec 08 08:11:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 783 @ 0.00051962 = 0.4069 BTC [-]
Dec 08 08:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6146 @ 0.00051886 = 3.1889 BTC [-]
Dec 08 08:13:09 <kakobreklaaa>	seems like canceling asic orders era came
Dec 08 08:13:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3059 @ 0.00052859 = 1.617 BTC [+]
Dec 08 08:13:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5041 @ 0.00052882 = 2.6658 BTC [+]
Dec 08 08:15:10 <kakobreklaaa>	omg retard
Dec 08 08:15:11 <kakobreklaaa>	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9722715/MI6-secrets-threatened-as-Swiss-spy-steals-a-mountain-of-data.html
Dec 08 08:15:14 <kakobreklaaa>	he should use bitcoin
Dec 08 08:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 08 08:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaaa ya i guess the asic comps are the next thing to pop.
Dec 08 08:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	"Swiss investigators raided his home and seized portable storage devices containing terrabytes of classified information, running into hundreds of thousands of printed pages."
Dec 08 08:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	fucking bs, he stole their doodle pdfs
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Dec 08 08:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	hallo davout
Dec 08 08:28:55 <davout>	hi mircea!
Dec 08 08:29:47 <davout>	i'm in a playful mood, but i can't get a simple STAT working on MPEx
Dec 08 08:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	i just answered your email.
Dec 08 08:33:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 445 @ 0.2247937 = 100.0332 BTC [+]
Dec 08 08:36:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.0033995 = 169.975 BTC [+]
Dec 08 08:37:00 <EskimoBob>	I was only referring to this, https://www.google.ee/search?q=polimedia.us+spam
Dec 08 08:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	Find Freelance polimedia us spam Jobs. Hire experienced Freelance polimedia us spam professionals on Freelancer.sg.
Dec 08 08:37:44 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha that's good.
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Dec 08 08:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3118 @ 0.00337418 = 10.5207 BTC [-]
Dec 08 08:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4333 @ 0.00333853 = 14.4659 BTC [-]
Dec 08 08:57:19 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: did you get the updated list from James?
Dec 08 08:57:27 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Dec 08 08:57:35 <Diablo-D3>	it has two entries in it
Dec 08 08:57:38 <Diablo-D3>	one of them is me.
Dec 08 08:59:17 <EskimoBob>	let me check my list, I think I had some of that DMC horror :)
Dec 08 08:59:39 <EskimoBob>	yep, I do have some DMC
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Dec 08 09:00:33 <Diablo-D3>	email?
Dec 08 09:01:06 <EskimoBob>	see PM
Dec 08 09:01:41 <kakobreklaaa>	;;bc,stats
Dec 08 09:01:42 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 211389 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 290 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3408747.30061292 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.877070602787
Dec 08 09:01:57 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: I see a pm. I dont see an email in the pm.
Dec 08 09:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051908 = 2.2429 BTC [-]
Dec 08 09:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14704 @ 0.00051886 = 7.6293 BTC [-]
Dec 08 09:02:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15475 @ 0.00051835 = 8.0215 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 09:22:04 <jurov>	and i thought it can't get any funnier https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1386400#msg1386400
Dec 08 09:22:34 <jurov>	The first thing to know about this person is that she is psychotic. Or psychic. However you spell the word
Dec 08 09:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i still didn't get wtf.
Dec 08 09:23:36 <jurov>	i understood it like mpoe-pr = erin pavlina
Dec 08 09:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;google erin pavlina
Dec 08 09:23:54 <gribble>	Erin Pavlina | Awaken, Remember, Love: <http://www.erinpavlina.com/>; Blog - Erin Pavlina: <http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/>; Readings | Erin Pavlina: <http://www.erinpavlina.com/readings/>
Dec 08 09:24:15 <jurov>	erin is a psychic living in vegas
Dec 08 09:24:32 <mircea_popescu>	they look alike at all to you ?!
Dec 08 09:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.erinpavlina.com/images/erin-injured.jpg woman looks like she's at least 50
Dec 08 09:26:54 <jurov>	no. perhaps usagi is under psychic influence... hilarious
Dec 08 09:27:53 <mircea_popescu>	im saving myself for when it's discovered she's marylin monroe
Dec 08 09:33:25 <jurov>	http://www.oglaf.com/ orly, women want that?
Dec 08 09:34:11 <kakobreklaaa>	Forbidden (403)
Dec 08 09:34:11 <kakobreklaaa>	CSRF verification failed. Request aborted.
Dec 08 09:34:13 <kakobreklaaa>	dafuq
Dec 08 09:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	oglaf is god.
Dec 08 09:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	whatever she says goes.
Dec 08 09:35:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051839 = 2.24 BTC [+]
Dec 08 09:35:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8825 @ 0.00051835 = 4.5744 BTC [-]
Dec 08 09:35:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11504 @ 0.0005183 = 5.9625 BTC [-]
Dec 08 09:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00051972 = 0.4937 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 10:26:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3371 @ 0.00051972 = 1.752 BTC [+]
Dec 08 10:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18056 @ 0.00052003 = 9.3897 BTC [+]
Dec 08 10:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12201 @ 0.00052215 = 6.3708 BTC [+]
Dec 08 10:29:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005219 = 2.2551 BTC [-]
Dec 08 10:29:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14829 @ 0.00052215 = 7.743 BTC [+]
Dec 08 10:32:51 <PsychoticBoy>	recieved your test satoshi`s JWU42
Dec 08 10:33:08 <JWU42>	thks
Dec 08 10:33:13 <JWU42>	for confirmation
Dec 08 10:33:57 <PsychoticBoy>	0.00000524 btc and 0.00001067 btc
Dec 08 10:34:07 *	JWU42 nods
Dec 08 10:34:23 <kakobreklaaa>	rich man.
Dec 08 10:34:37 <PsychoticBoy>	whoehoe lets go out for dinner tonight
Dec 08 10:34:49 <JWU42>	hey - it is progress
Dec 08 10:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051897 = 2.2425 BTC [-]
Dec 08 10:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7622 @ 0.00051873 = 3.9538 BTC [-]
Dec 08 10:34:56 <JWU42>	and nothing but a test for nwo
Dec 08 10:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 35052 @ 0.00339949 = 119.1589 BTC [+]
Dec 08 10:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 70448 @ 0.0033995 = 239.488 BTC [+]
Dec 08 10:34:59 <PsychoticBoy>	who is doing the dishes ;)
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Dec 08 10:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052195 = 2.2553 BTC [+]
Dec 08 10:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3370 @ 0.00052215 = 1.7596 BTC [+]
Dec 08 10:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23709 @ 0.00052495 = 12.446 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 10:53:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052465 = 2.267 BTC [-]
Dec 08 10:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9941 @ 0.00052495 = 5.2185 BTC [+]
Dec 08 10:53:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5188 @ 0.00052684 = 2.7332 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 10:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051891 = 2.2422 BTC [-]
Dec 08 10:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7692 @ 0.00051873 = 3.9901 BTC [-]
Dec 08 10:57:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5987 @ 0.0005183 = 3.1031 BTC [-]
Dec 08 11:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051841 = 2.24 BTC [+]
Dec 08 11:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5909 @ 0.0005183 = 3.0626 BTC [-]
Dec 08 11:02:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9048 @ 0.00051828 = 4.6894 BTC [-]
Dec 08 11:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051833 = 2.2397 BTC [+]
Dec 08 11:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6452 @ 0.00051828 = 3.3439 BTC [-]
Dec 08 11:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1677 @ 0.00051804 = 0.8688 BTC [-]
Dec 08 11:29:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052252 = 2.2578 BTC [+]
Dec 08 11:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052259 = 2.2581 BTC [+]
Dec 08 11:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00052275 = 4.8093 BTC [+]
Dec 08 11:29:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 908 @ 0.00052656 = 0.4781 BTC [+]
Dec 08 11:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005264 = 2.2746 BTC [-]
Dec 08 11:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 129 @ 0.00052656 = 0.0679 BTC [+]
Dec 08 11:38:50 <Diablo-D3>	JWU42: someone was pissed at you earlier
Dec 08 11:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10263 @ 0.00052656 = 5.4041 BTC [+]
Dec 08 11:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1512 @ 0.00052684 = 0.7966 BTC [+]
Dec 08 11:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6325 @ 0.00052733 = 3.3354 BTC [+]
Dec 08 11:39:22 <smickles>	pissed, i have new found meaning for that word as a parent of a 1 yr old
Dec 08 11:39:35 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: please shut up now and never speak again
Dec 08 11:40:57 <jcpham>	DMC exclusively mines on vnidia gpus
Dec 08 11:41:24 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: does dm even work on nvidia?
Dec 08 11:41:41 <Ukto>	hmm
Dec 08 11:41:54 <Ukto>	PsychoticBoy is now listing ABM on BitFunder
Dec 08 11:42:39 <jcpham>	idk
Dec 08 11:42:51 <jcpham>	it's just one of those things i say because it's funny
Dec 08 11:43:26 <jcpham>	yambc received
Dec 08 11:43:43 <Ukto>	smickles: LOL
Dec 08 11:43:50 <Ukto>	i let my wife learn that one
Dec 08 11:43:59 <Ukto>	4 kids.. 2~7, i can say I have safely avoided the firehose
Dec 08 11:44:12 <Diablo-D3>	Im I the only unmarried guy here?
Dec 08 11:44:18 <Ukto>	MP ?
Dec 08 11:44:30 <jcpham>	Diablo-D3 needs a fuck trophy
Dec 08 11:44:38 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 08 11:44:45 <Ukto>	he's still holding the freedom pass :P
Dec 08 11:44:55 <jcpham>	need to let go of that Diablo-D3
Dec 08 11:45:02 <smickles>	yeah, i don't think mp is married because he has too many women to do it legally in his country
Dec 08 11:45:07 <Diablo-D3>	meh, I just dont meet the right kind of women really
Dec 08 11:45:10 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 08 11:45:28 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: hehe, does that mean they wont put up ith you
Dec 08 11:45:31 <Ukto>	or you cant put up with them ?
Dec 08 11:45:32 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 08 11:45:40 <Diablo-D3>	a little of column a, a little of column b
Dec 08 11:45:53 <jcpham>	i turn into mostly column b after enough time\
Dec 08 11:45:58 <Ukto>	sounds like me and computers. love/hate relationship
Dec 08 11:45:59 <jcpham>	sex me, go away
Dec 08 11:46:00 <Ukto>	they love to hate me
Dec 08 11:46:21 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: see thats the thing
Dec 08 11:46:37 <Ukto>	... *must be really geekish to bring a computer comparison in when talking about women.
Dec 08 11:46:41 <Diablo-D3>	I enjoy the hell out of sex, but its not really that high on my priority list
Dec 08 11:46:51 <jcpham>	mine either
Dec 08 11:46:59 *	Ukto hides his list
Dec 08 11:47:03 <Ukto>	so.. whats up guys?
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Dec 08 11:47:04 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 08 11:47:06 <jcpham>	it takes about 10 years of marriage before it starts being a priority
Dec 08 11:47:22 <Ukto>	pah. I'm up to 7
Dec 08 11:47:24 <jcpham>	i count in decades now
Dec 08 11:47:59 <jcpham>	i'm not very old but i've been witht the same girl since high school\
Dec 08 11:48:15 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: I think you might possibly have that backwards
Dec 08 11:48:25 <jcpham>	hahaha
Dec 08 11:48:32 <jcpham>	you would think that
Dec 08 11:48:39 <Diablo-D3>	it starts as a priority, especially when there is a flat surface nearby.
Dec 08 11:48:53 <jcpham>	it's more like a sin wave
Dec 08 11:48:58 <jcpham>	the sex
Dec 08 11:49:16 <Diablo-D3>	like, the bathroom, or the kitchen, or the kitchen table, or the backseat of the car, or the elevator, or the stairwell
Dec 08 11:49:16 <jcpham>	10 years between peaks
Dec 08 11:49:21 <jcpham>	or a 10 year trough
Dec 08 11:49:25 <Diablo-D3>	btw, I dont recommend the stairwell, it echos too much
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Dec 08 11:50:22 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno though, I dont care about a chick's looks, race, or any of that shit
Dec 08 11:50:31 <Diablo-D3>	all I want is someone who wants me for me
Dec 08 11:50:54 <jcpham>	my wants change daily
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Dec 08 11:51:05 <jcpham>	i'm always in flux. girls are boring
Dec 08 11:51:21 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, even I like tits, and those I dont get too hung up on
Dec 08 11:51:34 <Diablo-D3>	could be a completely flat chested chick and it probably wouldnt be that horrible
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Dec 08 11:52:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00052183 = 4.1225 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 11:54:34 <JWU42>	Diablo-D3: it happens
Dec 08 11:54:54 <Diablo-D3>	JWU42: something about you refusing to pay out on your asset
Dec 08 11:55:27 *	JWU42 knows of what you are speaking
Dec 08 11:55:37 <Diablo-D3>	so wtfs going on
Dec 08 11:55:47 <JWU42>	working on it
Dec 08 11:56:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2762 @ 0.0005199 = 1.436 BTC [-]
Dec 08 11:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051828 = 2.2395 BTC [-]
Dec 08 11:56:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051807 = 2.2386 BTC [-]
Dec 08 11:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21396 @ 0.00051804 = 11.084 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 12:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051953 = 2.2449 BTC [+]
Dec 08 12:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15698 @ 0.00051962 = 8.157 BTC [+]
Dec 08 12:20:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051828 = 2.2395 BTC [-]
Dec 08 12:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 577 @ 0.00051804 = 0.2989 BTC [-]
Dec 08 12:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5602 @ 0.00051743 = 2.8986 BTC [-]
Dec 08 12:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051944 = 2.2445 BTC [+]
Dec 08 12:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4205 @ 0.00051962 = 2.185 BTC [+]
Dec 08 12:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00052183 = 3.6267 BTC [+]
Dec 08 12:53:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10166 @ 0.000522 = 5.3067 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 12:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051764 = 2.2367 BTC [-]
Dec 08 12:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1229 @ 0.00051743 = 0.6359 BTC [-]
Dec 08 13:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051748 = 2.236 BTC [+]
Dec 08 13:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18079 @ 0.00051743 = 9.3546 BTC [-]
Dec 08 13:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4150 @ 0.0033995 = 14.1079 BTC [+]
Dec 08 13:07:47 <[\\\]>	holy shit, when did this turn into #bitcoin-counseling?
Dec 08 13:10:06 <Namjies>	What are you talking about?
Dec 08 13:10:21 <Namjies>	Also I didn't know there was a #bitcoin-counseling channel
Dec 08 13:14:36 *	Ukto gets out a note pad. Just lay down on teh couch.
Dec 08 13:14:45 <JWU42>	heh
Dec 08 13:15:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00051756 = 7.8669 BTC [+]
Dec 08 13:16:30 <Namjies>	Doc, I see things, all the time. Like right now I see the ceiling.
Dec 08 13:16:52 <Ukto>	Hmm, go on.
Dec 08 13:16:57 <JWU42>	i see why the comment - deep thoughts from Diablo-D3
Dec 08 13:17:05 <JWU42>	above...
Dec 08 13:17:18 <Namjies>	It's so bland it hurts! What must I do? So uniform, so flat... it's mind numbing!
Dec 08 13:17:42 <Ukto>	The problem.. is not what you must do..
Dec 08 13:17:45 <Ukto>	but what you must become...
Dec 08 13:17:50 <Ukto>	<,<
Dec 08 13:18:18 <Ukto>	Every world needs a hero.. :P
Dec 08 13:18:21 *	Ukto hides
Dec 08 13:18:54 <Namjies>	 Hmm... if I became a ceiling fixture, I would be able to have a downward view. And be the beacon of light people need.
Dec 08 13:19:11 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 08 13:19:36 <Namjies>	A true change of perspective. This be what I need. Thank you doc!
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Dec 08 13:20:35 <Ukto>	lol
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Dec 08 13:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00051756 = 4.658 BTC [+]
Dec 08 13:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.000522 = 3.8628 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 13:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4207 @ 0.0033 = 13.8831 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 13:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10190 @ 0.00051743 = 5.2726 BTC [-]
Dec 08 13:59:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.0005173 = 2.2244 BTC [-]
Dec 08 13:59:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17417 @ 0.00051675 = 9.0002 BTC [-]
Dec 08 13:59:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3871 @ 0.00051665 = 2 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 14:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005213 = 2.2525 BTC [+]
Dec 08 14:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.00052135 = 3.0129 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 14:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051674 = 2.2328 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 14:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2379 @ 0.00051673 = 1.2293 BTC [-]
Dec 08 14:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052109 = 2.2516 BTC [+]
Dec 08 14:24:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11704 @ 0.00052135 = 6.1019 BTC [+]
Dec 08 14:32:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051695 = 2.2337 BTC [-]
Dec 08 14:32:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19599 @ 0.00051665 = 10.1258 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 14:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052112 = 2.2518 BTC [+]
Dec 08 14:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6879 @ 0.00052135 = 3.5864 BTC [+]
Dec 08 15:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051692 = 2.2336 BTC [-]
Dec 08 15:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 429 @ 0.00051665 = 0.2216 BTC [-]
Dec 08 15:10:28 <PsychoticBoy>	ABM will be back up this weekend on BitFunder.com
Dec 08 15:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7070 @ 0.00051665 = 3.6527 BTC [-]
Dec 08 15:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 898 @ 0.00051664 = 0.4639 BTC [-]
Dec 08 15:12:56 <JWU42>	good to hear
Dec 08 15:13:09 <JWU42>	wanting to see which exchange lands the most folks
Dec 08 15:13:20 <JWU42>	trying to keep track of who went where
Dec 08 15:20:54 <jcpham>	sadly i can basically say none of them will land my me
Dec 08 15:21:45 <kakobreklaaa>	your you?
Dec 08 15:22:31 <jcpham>	all three of the collective we
Dec 08 15:22:57 <jcpham>	no more plans to "invest" in bitcoin
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Dec 08 15:23:08 <jcpham>	where invest involves another party to my plans
Dec 08 15:23:38 <kakobreklaaa>	awww
Dec 08 15:23:38 <jcpham>	or any type of tit for tat mutual exchange of bitcoins scenario
Dec 08 15:23:40 <JWU42>	after all the shit of the past 3 months
Dec 08 15:23:49 <JWU42>	I am of the same mindset
Dec 08 15:23:54 <jcpham>	no offense to anyone
Dec 08 15:24:04 <JWU42>	Goat, KingKatari, Clipse and of course you know who
Dec 08 15:24:06 <jcpham>	i apologize to you again JWU42
Dec 08 15:24:13 <JWU42>	heh
Dec 08 15:24:16 <JWU42>	no need
Dec 08 15:24:21 <JWU42>	but thanks nonetheless
Dec 08 15:24:24 <jcpham>	yep
Dec 08 15:24:39 <jcpham>	the websites accepting bitcoins have lost my trust
Dec 08 15:24:52 <jcpham>	i need to see them on the blockchain at all times
Dec 08 15:25:02 <JWU42>	rightfully so
Dec 08 15:25:38 <jcpham>	i've seen a lot of obfuscation but not a lot of transparency
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Dec 08 15:25:57 <Namjies>	Eh, well regardless of what you two says, otc is not very loan friendly and I had better luck here.
Dec 08 15:26:10 <JWU42>	heh
Dec 08 15:26:14 <jcpham>	nah i wouldn't expect it to be
Dec 08 15:26:19 <JWU42>	well - as long as you are happy
Dec 08 15:26:23 <jcpham>	you'd have better luck here or elsewhere
Dec 08 15:26:44 <jcpham>	i just want these asics to materialize
Dec 08 15:26:51 <Namjies>	Anyone else to fill the remaining 100 BTC I need to borrow?
Dec 08 15:26:54 <jcpham>	mining got real boring 2 thursdays ago
Dec 08 15:27:13 <jcpham>	or was it a wednesday?
Dec 08 15:27:16 <JWU42>	here is one for you jcpham
Dec 08 15:27:18 <JWU42>	https://soundcloud.com/djphazenpnz/sister-nancy-ft-b-i-g-big
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Dec 08 15:27:59 <JWU42>	I do like BAM BAM
Dec 08 15:28:16 <jcpham>	i like phaze
Dec 08 15:28:21 <jcpham>	i wasn't following him
Dec 08 15:28:39 <jcpham>	nice
Dec 08 15:28:43 <JWU42>	There was one of his before that I liked - and then was browsing around and found this
Dec 08 15:28:50 *	jcpham bobs head
Dec 08 15:29:06 <JWU42>	I am not that active on Soundcloud - but it is kinda good
Dec 08 15:29:52 <JWU42>	this was the other one
Dec 08 15:29:53 <JWU42>	https://soundcloud.com/djphazenpnz/speedometer-ft-rick-ross
Dec 08 15:31:10 <Namjies>	If any music related thing contains "ft", that automatically puts it on the "I probably won't like it" category.
Dec 08 15:32:21 <JWU42>	heh
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Dec 08 15:34:38 <JWU42>	time to get a Xmas tree
Dec 08 15:34:41 <JWU42>	bbl
Dec 08 15:46:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24412 @ 0.00051664 = 12.6122 BTC [-]
Dec 08 15:46:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0005165 = 3.7705 BTC [-]
Dec 08 15:46:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9088 @ 0.0005165 = 4.694 BTC [-]
Dec 08 15:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.0005165 = 8.5223 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 15:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.0005165 = 8.3415 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 15:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4729 @ 0.0005165 = 2.4425 BTC [-]
Dec 08 15:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19378 @ 0.00051644 = 10.0076 BTC [-]
Dec 08 16:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4332 @ 0.00052079 = 2.2561 BTC [+]
Dec 08 16:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052126 = 2.2524 BTC [+]
Dec 08 16:11:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 238 @ 0.00052135 = 0.1241 BTC [+]
Dec 08 16:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00052155 = 7.1192 BTC [+]
Dec 08 16:17:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052192 = 2.2552 BTC [+]
Dec 08 16:17:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11034 @ 0.000522 = 5.7597 BTC [+]
Dec 08 16:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7845 @ 0.00052304 = 4.1032 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 16:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000523 = 2.2599 BTC [-]
Dec 08 16:32:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2355 @ 0.00052304 = 1.2318 BTC [+]
Dec 08 16:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1374 @ 0.00052733 = 0.7246 BTC [+]
Dec 08 16:44:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052157 = 2.2537 BTC [-]
Dec 08 16:44:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1279 @ 0.00052155 = 0.6671 BTC [-]
Dec 08 16:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052167 = 2.2541 BTC [+]
Dec 08 16:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3937 @ 0.00052155 = 2.0533 BTC [-]
Dec 08 16:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00052083 = 5.2604 BTC [-]
Dec 08 16:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052048 = 2.249 BTC [-]
Dec 08 16:58:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00052043 = 10.877 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 17:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11429 @ 0.00051809 = 5.9213 BTC [-]
Dec 08 17:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5942 @ 0.00052083 = 3.0948 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 17:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00052248 = 4.7546 BTC [+]
Dec 08 17:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052705 = 2.2774 BTC [+]
Dec 08 17:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00052727 = 0.2526 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 17:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052252 = 2.2578 BTC [-]
Dec 08 17:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00052248 = 2.1422 BTC [-]
Dec 08 17:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00051833 = 7.2307 BTC [-]
Dec 08 17:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052195 = 2.2553 BTC [+]
Dec 08 17:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14979 @ 0.00052202 = 7.8193 BTC [+]
Dec 08 17:54:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2748 @ 0.00052733 = 1.4491 BTC [+]
Dec 08 17:56:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.0005271 = 2.0251 BTC [-]
Dec 08 17:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2808 @ 0.00052733 = 1.4807 BTC [+]
Dec 08 18:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052699 = 2.2771 BTC [-]
Dec 08 18:03:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9995 @ 0.00052733 = 5.2707 BTC [+]
Dec 08 18:03:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4734 @ 0.00052742 = 2.4968 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 18:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052662 = 2.2755 BTC [-]
Dec 08 18:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1229 @ 0.00052644 = 0.647 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 18:23:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052707 = 2.2775 BTC [+]
Dec 08 18:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9029 @ 0.00052742 = 4.7621 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 18:31:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4595 @ 0.00052742 = 2.4235 BTC [+]
Dec 08 18:31:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3724 @ 0.00052882 = 1.9693 BTC [+]
Dec 08 18:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3531 @ 0.00052899 = 1.8679 BTC [+]
Dec 08 18:49:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3092 @ 0.00052644 = 1.6278 BTC [-]
Dec 08 18:49:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11241 @ 0.00052637 = 5.9169 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 18:51:21 <pigeons>	"$8,000 for 8 months of WordPress hosting"
Dec 08 18:52:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052878 = 2.2849 BTC [+]
Dec 08 18:52:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3979 @ 0.00052899 = 2.1049 BTC [+]
Dec 08 18:53:04 <pigeons>	http://codinginmysleep.com/the-bittalk-media-meltdown/
Dec 08 18:53:45 <pigeons>	can't lose S3052 is on staff
Dec 08 18:54:20 <pigeons>	"Humorously, Invoice 10002 has a line item (bottom of the first page) for the time spent creating and paying invoice 10001. "
Dec 08 18:54:27 <noagendamarket>	S3052 is a glbse shareholder
Dec 08 18:55:09 <pigeons>	and so is
Dec 08 18:56:35 <Ukto>	0,0
Dec 08 18:56:52 <pigeons>	n*a*e*d*m*r*e*
Dec 08 18:57:30 <kakobreklaaa>	>>replying to user bitarrow who contacted me by PM on the forum 0.08hrs 6.4pounds
Dec 08 18:57:32 <kakobreklaaa>	ftw!
Dec 08 18:58:02 <kakobreklaaa>	oh even better
Dec 08 18:58:27 <kakobreklaaa>	>>responded to mihai threads insults and accusations in staff channel on skype 0.67hrs 53 pounds
Dec 08 18:58:33 <kakobreklaaa>	threats*
Dec 08 18:58:48 <pigeons>	well he warned us all of the pirate ponzi, he deserves a little something for the effort
Dec 08 18:59:28 <noagendamarket>	$8000 ?
Dec 08 18:59:30 <noagendamarket>	lol
Dec 08 18:59:53 <noagendamarket>	Im just surprised he didnt charge "over $9000"
Dec 08 19:00:22 <kakobreklaaa>	8000 pounds is over 9000 usd
Dec 08 19:00:33 <noagendamarket>	lol so it is
Dec 08 19:00:49 <pigeons>	well they probably get the bitpay fee back as a bonus
Dec 08 19:01:19 <noagendamarket>	they can advertise the BFL scam on behalf of bitpay endlessly
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Dec 08 19:02:11 <noagendamarket>	I dont always give 12 month interest fee loans but when I do its for equipoment that nevver arrives
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Dec 08 19:05:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 08 19:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	sooo there is bitcoin mag drama ?
Dec 08 19:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	cool, should bridge us over till asics.
Dec 08 19:07:14 <pigeons>	Diablo-D3: what is a watchable "anime" from netflix?
Dec 08 19:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons where did he warn us ?
Dec 08 19:09:54 <pigeons>	oh i thought vladimir was one of those guys very concerned about the pirate ponzi
Dec 08 19:10:07 <pigeons>	maybe i have him confised with some of the other nice russians
Dec 08 19:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	i think you do
Dec 08 19:10:44 <mircea_popescu>	you thinking of vandroyi's bet ?
Dec 08 19:10:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00335055 = 4.3557 BTC [+]
Dec 08 19:10:55 <pigeons>	probably
Dec 08 19:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	the other few russians i know about were quite on board buying debt and all.
Dec 08 19:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	"So what you are saying is, you kicked out the only person who is not a crazy person,"
Dec 08 19:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	dude i like greyhawk
Dec 08 19:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	he repeatedly threatened the shareholders to block an investment that would have brought over $65,000 in new capital and probably would have saved the company.
Dec 08 19:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't take so much to save these companies.
Dec 08 19:17:37 <Ukto>	pigeons: netflix/anime: none
Dec 08 19:17:39 <Ukto>	they are all dubbed
Dec 08 19:19:31 <noagendamarket>	If I see a bitcoin mag in the newsagents Im secretly going to wipe dogshit on the cover
Dec 08 19:20:03 <noagendamarket>	then send vlad an invoice for the dogshit
Dec 08 19:20:07 <Namjies>	does it have to be animes?
Dec 08 19:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	The above statement contains multiply slanderous false statements of facts. Which is likely result of libel campaign perpetrated against myself
Dec 08 19:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	ajhahaha! usagi LIVES!
Dec 08 19:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	so what's the real story here ? anyone actually know ?
Dec 08 19:20:51 <pigeons>	Namjies: no anything. i'm housitting
Dec 08 19:21:18 <noagendamarket>	bitcoin companies are all retarded
Dec 08 19:21:26 <noagendamarket>	thats the real story
Dec 08 19:21:30 <Namjies>	There's Futurama assuming you haven't already seen it.
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Dec 08 19:21:58 <pigeons>	i think i'll defy advice and go with bruno
Dec 08 19:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00052672 = 1.3168 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 19:22:38 <Namjies>	What is that?
Dec 08 19:24:03 <pigeons>	sasha baren cohn (borat) is a flaming hairdresser who baits people in alabama on camera
Dec 08 19:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	so i started on a bitcoin drama timeline.
Dec 08 19:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	is anyone willing to halp ? there's no way i can remember it all.
Dec 08 19:25:13 <Namjies>	I forget within an hour...
Dec 08 19:25:25 <kakobreklaaa>	good idea
Dec 08 19:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	lets see here. mtgox hack. mybitcoin.
Dec 08 19:25:34 <mircea_popescu>	then came what , before bitcoinica ?
Dec 08 19:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00052672 = 0.9592 BTC [-]
Dec 08 19:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12179 @ 0.00052637 = 6.4107 BTC [-]
Dec 08 19:26:01 <kakobreklaaa>	tradehill counts?
Dec 08 19:26:07 <noagendamarket>	yes
Dec 08 19:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	surely.
Dec 08 19:26:23 <mircea_popescu>	was the bitdaytrade before pirate ?
Dec 08 19:26:35 <noagendamarket>	it was at the same time
Dec 08 19:26:38 <kakobreklaaa>	it ended after iirc
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Dec 08 19:27:01 <noagendamarket>	also http://ringcoin.com
Dec 08 19:27:14 <pigeons>	bitomat.pl
Dec 08 19:27:18 <kakobreklaaa>	theres like 100 missing in between
Dec 08 19:27:20 <noagendamarket>	ah
Dec 08 19:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	please everyone dump his memories here
Dec 08 19:27:33 <mircea_popescu>	i'll compile a collection, document it nicely.
Dec 08 19:27:36 <pigeons>	btcex.com
Dec 08 19:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	just trying to make sure nothing is forgotten
Dec 08 19:27:44 <pigeons>	bitcoin7.com
Dec 08 19:27:46 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck was btcex ?!
Dec 08 19:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	wow.
Dec 08 19:27:59 <mircea_popescu>	see, i didn't even have close to the complete list.
Dec 08 19:28:17 <kakobreklaaa>	along with BDT is bitcoinrebate, same guy
Dec 08 19:28:22 <Namjies>	there's MNW large bet, Patrick Harnett, Pirate, GLBSE, Tradehill, Hashking, Usagi, Diablo-D3, Theymos/Mods, and the list would go on.
Dec 08 19:28:31 <pigeons>	BTCex is a russian exchange took everyones money, came back, ignored it for like a year than did it again down for maintenence last 3 months
Dec 08 19:28:33 <Namjies>	Lots of drama around these
Dec 08 19:28:59 <pigeons>	bitomat was when their aws ami used ephemeral storage and they terminated the instance and lost their wallet
Dec 08 19:29:05 <kakobreklaaa>	hey i got one,... glbse
Dec 08 19:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	yup glbse fo show
Dec 08 19:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Dec 08 19:29:19 <Namjies>	I already said that
Dec 08 19:29:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052885 = 2.2852 BTC [+]
Dec 08 19:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16177 @ 0.00052899 = 8.5575 BTC [+]
Dec 08 19:29:22 <noagendamarket>	what about bitscalper
Dec 08 19:29:22 <kakobreklaaa>	for show as well.
Dec 08 19:29:29 <Namjies>	ah yes, bitscalper
Dec 08 19:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	that polish thing, which mtgox aquired ?
Dec 08 19:29:42 <noagendamarket>	bitscalper uis also to bitdaytrade guy lol
Dec 08 19:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	a yes bitomat.pl
Dec 08 19:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	and the slush/bitcoinica vps hack
Dec 08 19:30:01 <kakobreklaaa>	linode hack?
Dec 08 19:30:04 <pigeons>	moonco.in with the fake ICE page
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Dec 08 19:30:12 <noagendamarket>	yes :D
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Dec 08 19:30:22 <pigeons>	allinvain
Dec 08 19:30:42 <noagendamarket>	world bitcoin exchange - the aussie scam
Dec 08 19:30:49 <pigeons>	peter lambert
Dec 08 19:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	when did phantomcircuit mail the list of intersangro emails ? sometime q3-4 2011
Dec 08 19:30:53 <noagendamarket>	haha
Dec 08 19:30:57 <noagendamarket>	Ubitex
Dec 08 19:31:17 <noagendamarket>	Shades Minoco
Dec 08 19:31:30 <Namjies>	I think all this drama requires a musical theme full of drama and madness.
Dec 08 19:31:30 <noagendamarket>	Wise Old Owl
Dec 08 19:31:34 <pigeons>	yes and bitlex stopped paying in his ponzi multiplier and just ignored the english forum for 2 years but stays on the german one
Dec 08 19:32:04 <noagendamarket>	what about ziggy and mybitcointrade or whatever it was
Dec 08 19:32:18 <kakobreklaaa>	i dunno but noone mentioned bfl, they are preety shit :)
Dec 08 19:32:36 <Namjies>	Anything ASIC related created some drama...
Dec 08 19:32:37 <noagendamarket>	definitely the next ponzi
Dec 08 19:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaaa cause only doing past.
Dec 08 19:32:44 <Namjies>	Everything creates drama.
Dec 08 19:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	future drama we do in a future installment.
Dec 08 19:33:14 <kakobreklaaa>	there was plenty of drama around bfl in the past
Dec 08 19:33:15 <pigeons>	shakaru
Dec 08 19:33:19 <noagendamarket>	womder when btcjam will blow
Dec 08 19:33:37 <noagendamarket>	*wonder
Dec 08 19:34:01 <kakobreklaaa>	also glasswalker mtgox 'hack'
Dec 08 19:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	o, the bitfloor guy
Dec 08 19:34:16 <pigeons>	plato
Dec 08 19:34:19 <noagendamarket>	the first mt gox hack was pretty dramatic
Dec 08 19:34:20 <pigeons>	bitcoin conference
Dec 08 19:34:27 <Namjies>	I propose this theme for Bitcoin Drama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdWTJg6bf40
Dec 08 19:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons plato ?!
Dec 08 19:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	what did he do !?
Dec 08 19:34:29 <noagendamarket>	what about Mybitcoin
Dec 08 19:34:34 <pigeons>	nothing
Dec 08 19:34:36 <mircea_popescu>	eh ?
Dec 08 19:34:40 <noagendamarket>	Bruce Fagner
Dec 08 19:35:05 <mircea_popescu>	what was mybitcoin loss in the end ? 200k ? 500k ?
Dec 08 19:36:02 <Namjies>	Astronomical.
Dec 08 19:36:16 <Namjies>	Estimated, of course.
Dec 08 19:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	250k usd  at may 2011 rates
Dec 08 19:37:13 <kakobreklaaa>	there was btc-e drama, but they fixed it
Dec 08 19:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	seems 100k btc
Dec 08 19:37:50 <kakobreklaaa>	gpumax?
Dec 08 19:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya ties into the pirate thing.
Dec 08 19:39:02 <noagendamarket>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0  this is helpful
Dec 08 19:39:12 <kakobreklaaa>	also some poolse were scamming/hacke
Dec 08 19:39:13 <kakobreklaaa>	d
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Dec 08 19:45:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 228 @ 0.00052899 = 0.1206 BTC [+]
Dec 08 19:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27818 @ 0.00052945 = 14.7282 BTC [+]
Dec 08 19:50:30 *	jurov shall plant some evidence for usagi of some links between sacha baron cohen and mircea popescu
Dec 08 19:50:38 <jurov>	because they so totally don't look at all alike
Dec 08 19:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 08 19:51:15 <mircea_popescu>	well actually... we are both tall and dark haired.
Dec 08 19:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18649 @ 0.00052945 = 9.8737 BTC [+]
Dec 08 19:52:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1251 @ 0.00052952 = 0.6624 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 19:56:46 <jurov>	imho it would be easier to list oldest standing btc enterprises
Dec 08 19:57:28 <jurov>	1. mtgox (though they use borderline scammy payout practices already)
Dec 08 19:58:00 <jurov>	2. maybe few pools
Dec 08 19:58:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16166 @ 0.00052952 = 8.5602 BTC [+]
Dec 08 19:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10634 @ 0.00052967 = 5.6325 BTC [+]
Dec 08 19:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	im curious what you have as 2
Dec 08 19:58:07 <jurov>	3. mpoe
Dec 08 19:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, the pools should count for sure.
Dec 08 19:59:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00052967 = 8.2629 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 20:01:55 <jurov>	no idea what else. britcoin/intersango? virwox?
Dec 08 20:02:36 <jurov>	btc-e, vircurex
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Dec 08 20:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	vircurex ?!
Dec 08 20:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	when did that happen ?
Dec 08 20:06:00 <Namjies>	He's just listing long standing BTC businesses.
Dec 08 20:07:16 <mircea_popescu>	o sorry, got confused
Dec 08 20:07:21 <jurov>	yes, just off my head. vircurex had found a spot in my heart for its uncontented ugliness
Dec 08 20:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	but intersango certainly dun work.
Dec 08 20:07:35 <jurov>	mpex never came close.. but then they fixed it
Dec 08 20:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052838 = 2.2831 BTC [-]
Dec 08 20:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00052805 = 10.1386 BTC [-]
Dec 08 20:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4129 @ 0.00052654 = 2.1741 BTC [-]
Dec 08 20:08:07 <jurov>	intersango works afaik,just only in gbp
Dec 08 20:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	last i know the guy was pretty much telling everyone to fuck off/ not taking new accounts etc
Dec 08 20:09:23 <jurov>	they have shut down usd part or like that
Dec 08 20:10:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052961 = 2.2884 BTC [+]
Dec 08 20:10:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4735 @ 0.00052967 = 2.508 BTC [+]
Dec 08 20:10:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8244 @ 0.00052997 = 4.3691 BTC [+]
Dec 08 20:11:59 <pigeons>	ok enough of this bruno
Dec 08 20:13:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00335055 = 6.7011 BTC [+]
Dec 08 20:13:48 <jurov>	wassup, sis?
Dec 08 20:14:06 <Ukto>	ABM launched onto bitfunder
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Dec 08 20:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 206 @ 0.00052997 = 0.1092 BTC [+]
Dec 08 20:15:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15414 @ 0.00053067 = 8.1797 BTC [+]
Dec 08 20:15:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1580 @ 0.00053117 = 0.8392 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 20:16:40 <jurov>	Ukto, you have deleted testing acct? it says it doesn't know my email
Dec 08 20:18:47 <Ukto>	jurov: db was wiped at launch
Dec 08 20:18:51 <Ukto>	your accoutn may have been copeid to sandbox
Dec 08 20:18:59 <Ukto>	https://sandbox.bitfunder.com
Dec 08 20:19:00 <jurov>	okay
Dec 08 20:19:05 <Ukto>	depending on when you signed up
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Dec 08 20:20:56 <jurov>	np, i was just interested in assets
Dec 08 20:21:44 <jurov>	and the information is completely useless as to estimate the value
Dec 08 20:21:52 <jurov>	one probably would have to dig in btctalk to know how much MH/s they have, how much do they pay for electricity, etc.
Dec 08 20:23:01 <jurov>	Ukto, are they required to post monthly/quarterly report at least?
Dec 08 20:24:00 <jurov>	with nice disclaimer in the bottom "This is a lie in our opinion." lmao
Dec 08 20:24:14 <jurov>	https://bitfunder.com/terms
Dec 08 20:25:37 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 08 20:25:56 <jurov>	actually, this is a step beyond burnside's "none of this exists and all is for educational purposes"
Dec 08 20:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://betco.in/
Dec 08 20:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 08 20:26:27 <Ukto>	either way you get the same result 'this stuff is basically only worth something, as long as the community deems it worth something'
Dec 08 20:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://scanlab.name/?lang=eng
Dec 08 20:30:52 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Dec 08 20:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	"o, need as much personal info as possible"
Dec 08 20:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons : make a btcjam offering, "Need 1337 BTC to make scanlab.name clone except ours will be much better (can't disclose much of the plan sorry)!"
Dec 08 20:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	2% a week or w.e
Dec 08 20:32:50 <Ukto>	lol
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Dec 08 20:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1970 @ 0.00053117 = 1.0464 BTC [+]
Dec 08 20:34:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00053129 = 10.2539 BTC [+]
Dec 08 20:34:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3144 @ 0.00053179 = 1.6719 BTC [+]
Dec 08 20:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8627 @ 0.00053248 = 4.5937 BTC [+]
Dec 08 20:36:00 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 08 20:36:01 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 50 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <smickles> yeah, i don't think mp is married because he has too many women to do it legally in his country
Dec 08 20:36:11 <thestringpuller>	lololololol
Dec 08 20:36:30 <thestringpuller>	that made my life
Dec 08 20:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	!?
Dec 08 20:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	lmao what sorcery is this ?
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Dec 08 20:41:12 <jcpham>	burn the witch!
Dec 08 20:57:08 *	jcpham is now known as DownwardElevatio
Dec 08 21:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00053248 = 5.4845 BTC [+]
Dec 08 21:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=8676.msg128018#msg128018
Dec 08 21:02:55 <mircea_popescu>	am i the only one who finds it a little odd that the pic url is
Dec 08 21:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/73/rigsa.jpg
Dec 08 21:08:22 <jurov>	even if it's genuine, i'd fear i'll put some beverage on that table and accidentally spill it
Dec 08 21:09:23 <jurov>	maybe that's planned, they vanish, taking all bitcoins and say "sorry i have spilled coffee on it"
Dec 08 21:12:38 <jurov>	or perhaps  "some unspecified bodily fluid"
Dec 08 21:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00053248 = 12.46 BTC [+]
Dec 08 21:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00052834 = 2.219 BTC [-]
Dec 08 21:23:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052747 = 2.2792 BTC [-]
Dec 08 21:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052738 = 2.2788 BTC [-]
Dec 08 21:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1002 @ 0.00052716 = 0.5282 BTC [-]
Dec 08 21:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 08 21:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	"sorry, the mining bond is closed because i got pissed and i pissed on the rig"
Dec 08 21:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052736 = 2.2787 BTC [+]
Dec 08 21:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20244 @ 0.00052716 = 10.6718 BTC [-]
Dec 08 21:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6204 @ 0.00052716 = 3.2705 BTC [-]
Dec 08 21:31:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7396 @ 0.00052654 = 3.8943 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 21:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053227 = 2.2999 BTC [+]
Dec 08 21:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2970 @ 0.00053248 = 1.5815 BTC [+]
Dec 08 21:52:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7109 @ 0.00053271 = 3.787 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 22:03:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052871 = 2.2846 BTC [-]
Dec 08 22:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2279 @ 0.00052864 = 1.2048 BTC [-]
Dec 08 22:04:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053253 = 2.3011 BTC [+]
Dec 08 22:04:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7276 @ 0.00053271 = 3.876 BTC [+]
Dec 08 22:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 100 @ 0.2515799 = 25.158 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 22:15:28 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yo mircea_popescu scorcery is as scorcery does
Dec 08 22:15:40 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Dec 08 22:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053252 = 2.301 BTC [-]
Dec 08 22:26:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4779 @ 0.00053271 = 2.5458 BTC [+]
Dec 08 22:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/ << everyone please review and let me know if i missed anything
Dec 08 22:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons smickles kakobreklaaa Namjies and so on!
Dec 08 22:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	planning to add totals and a graph to it too
Dec 08 22:32:57 <Namjies>	I stopped reading your blog when it started prompting me for a fee.
Dec 08 22:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	a
Dec 08 22:33:54 <smickles>	Namjies: you get one credit every 7 days, up to 4 or 5, iirc
Dec 08 22:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	actually you get 5 a week
Dec 08 22:34:40 <Namjies>	Well fee/registration/etc.
Dec 08 22:35:42 <kakobreklaaa>	mnw doesnt belong there
Dec 08 22:35:46 <kakobreklaaa>	no coins really lost
Dec 08 22:35:50 <kakobreklaaa>	just a fool promisse
Dec 08 22:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	arguable all of them are that
Dec 08 22:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	why does glbse belongthen ?
Dec 08 22:36:41 <smickles>	dude, mircea_popescu shakaru, i think, got away with 5kbtc and 20kusd
Dec 08 22:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	o, so more like 10k ?
Dec 08 22:36:54 <Namjies>	It's not about loss, it's about drama
Dec 08 22:37:02 <smickles>	ya, and that's all that's been reported
Dec 08 22:37:08 <kakobreklaaa>	mircea_popescu mnw didnt accept any coin
Dec 08 22:37:33 <mircea_popescu>	updated
Dec 08 22:37:33 <smickles>	i didn't report the fact that he made betwee 300 and 600 btc worth of software sales that he neglected to pay to me
Dec 08 22:37:54 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaaa that's true
Dec 08 22:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	ill add a note
Dec 08 22:38:44 <smickles>	you should add gavin's bitcoin faucet to the linode hack, it was a minicule amount, but it was a 'sentimental' theft
Dec 08 22:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	added.
Dec 08 22:38:53 <mircea_popescu>	i have no sentimentsd.
Dec 08 22:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053242 = 2.3006 BTC [-]
Dec 08 22:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5093 @ 0.00053271 = 2.7131 BTC [+]
Dec 08 22:41:00 <kakobreklaaa>	also i see no reference of 'milk'
Dec 08 22:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8536 @ 0.00053276 = 4.5476 BTC [+]
Dec 08 22:41:05 <kakobreklaaa>	but is ok.
Dec 08 22:41:09 <smickles>	wow, it feels like the total should be roughly equal to the amount of available btc
Dec 08 22:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	o, usagi ?
Dec 08 22:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	hm, has usagi actually embezzled 1k worth ?
Dec 08 22:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	heck, fuck it, he's worth the mention on the drama alone
Dec 08 22:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	actually also forgot diablo
Dec 08 22:43:39 <Namjies>	Don't forget to include Bitcoin itself in that drama list
Dec 08 22:44:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 08 22:44:15 <Namjies>	and Silk Road. and those US people who had concerns about Bitcoins
Dec 08 22:44:42 <Namjies>	and pretty much everyone and everything that ever was in the vinicity of anything bitcoin related.
Dec 08 22:44:51 <Namjies>	Just to be on the safe side.
Dec 08 22:44:51 <smickles>	heh, i gave it to the /r/etards
Dec 08 22:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	silkroad is in there cause of "tony"
Dec 08 22:45:14 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14j542/the_bitcoin_drama_timeline/
Dec 08 22:45:34 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: have you figured the total estimate yet?
Dec 08 22:45:54 <smickles>	I don't want to hit the '+' key that many times, it'll break
Dec 08 22:46:00 <Namjies>	From bitcoin-police http://asynclabs.com/contact-us
Dec 08 22:46:25 <mircea_popescu>	smickles working on it lol.
Dec 08 22:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	o shit, forgot the bfl ceo thing
Dec 08 22:46:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00052871 = 0.8988 BTC [-]
Dec 08 22:47:04 <Namjies>	Seriously, these people can find a billion thing that's just no findable. How that thing was stumbled on I have no idea.
Dec 08 22:49:41 <mircea_popescu>	what is it Namjies ?
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Dec 08 22:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2621 @ 0.00052871 = 1.3857 BTC [-]
Dec 08 22:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11171 @ 0.00052864 = 5.9054 BTC [-]
Dec 08 22:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9111 @ 0.00052654 = 4.7973 BTC [-]
Dec 08 22:59:31 <Namjies>	Old website with basically the same logo as ButterflyLabs
Dec 08 22:59:44 <Namjies>	but called AsyncLabs
Dec 08 23:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052666 = 2.2757 BTC [+]
Dec 08 23:00:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12181 @ 0.00052665 = 6.4151 BTC [-]
Dec 08 23:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64 @ 0.00052654 = 0.0337 BTC [-]
Dec 08 23:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 488 @ 0.00052637 = 0.2569 BTC [-]
Dec 08 23:00:55 <smickles>	;;google define valid
Dec 08 23:00:56 <gribble>	Valid | Define Valid at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/valid>; Valid& | Define Valid& at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/valid&>; valid - definition of valid by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/valid>
Dec 08 23:01:15 <smickles>	;;google define point
Dec 08 23:01:15 <gribble>	Point | Define Point at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/point>; Point - math word definition - Math Open Reference: <http://www.mathopenref.com/point.html>; point - definition of point by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/point>
Dec 08 23:01:27 <smickles>	no such thing as a valid point people
Dec 08 23:01:32 <smickles>	stop saying that shit
Dec 08 23:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	ok, muchly updated page.
Dec 08 23:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	hmmm, interesting stuff Namjies
Dec 08 23:04:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052647 = 2.2749 BTC [+]
Dec 08 23:04:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9879 @ 0.00052637 = 5.2 BTC [-]
Dec 08 23:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00052637 = 6.0796 BTC [-]
Dec 08 23:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053262 = 2.3015 BTC [+]
Dec 08 23:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8228 @ 0.00053276 = 4.3835 BTC [+]
Dec 08 23:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	1.3 mn
Dec 08 23:16:44 <noagendamarket>	Scammers own more btc than anyone else
Dec 08 23:23:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005325 = 2.3009 BTC [-]
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Dec 08 23:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18173 @ 0.00053268 = 9.6804 BTC [+]
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Dec 08 23:58:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26006 @ 0.00053268 = 13.8529 BTC [+]
Dec 08 23:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8363 @ 0.00052637 = 4.402 BTC [-]
Dec 08 23:58:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14888 @ 0.00052195 = 7.7708 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 00:03:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053249 = 2.3009 BTC [+]
Dec 09 00:03:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5986 @ 0.00053276 = 3.1891 BTC [+]
Dec 09 00:03:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00053284 = 5.8612 BTC [+]
Dec 09 00:03:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6143 @ 0.00053287 = 3.2734 BTC [+]
Dec 09 00:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1731 @ 0.00053294 = 0.9225 BTC [+]
Dec 09 00:03:38 <mircea_popescu>	e have received questions from publications such as BBC and from Emirates Airlines’ Open Skies magazine.
Dec 09 00:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha ok this is great. the airlines magazine.
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Dec 09 00:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17518 @ 0.00053055 = 9.2942 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 00:28:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052204 = 2.2557 BTC [-]
Dec 09 00:28:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12679 @ 0.00052195 = 6.6178 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 00:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053052 = 2.2924 BTC [+]
Dec 09 00:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20629 @ 0.00053055 = 10.9447 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 00:37:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00052226 = 1.9846 BTC [-]
Dec 09 00:43:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 400 @ 0.21815916 = 87.2637 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 00:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1196 @ 0.00053055 = 0.6345 BTC [+]
Dec 09 00:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 938 @ 0.00053294 = 0.4999 BTC [+]
Dec 09 00:54:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1516 @ 0.00053303 = 0.8081 BTC [+]
Dec 09 01:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6370 @ 0.00053303 = 3.3954 BTC [+]
Dec 09 01:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3830 @ 0.00053304 = 2.0415 BTC [+]
Dec 09 01:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 521 @ 0.00052226 = 0.2721 BTC [-]
Dec 09 01:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5329 @ 0.00052195 = 2.7815 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 01:35:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16326 @ 0.00052224 = 8.5261 BTC [+]
Dec 09 01:49:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1823 @ 0.00052195 = 0.9515 BTC [-]
Dec 09 01:49:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16206 @ 0.00052057 = 8.4364 BTC [-]
Dec 09 01:49:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6971 @ 0.00052052 = 3.6285 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 01:54:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052062 = 2.2496 BTC [+]
Dec 09 01:55:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13279 @ 0.00052056 = 6.9125 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 01:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052069 = 2.2499 BTC [+]
Dec 09 01:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10221 @ 0.00052056 = 5.3206 BTC [-]
Dec 09 01:58:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19958 @ 0.00052052 = 10.3885 BTC [-]
Dec 09 02:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7652 @ 0.00052052 = 3.983 BTC [-]
Dec 09 02:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8124 @ 0.00052049 = 4.2285 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 02:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052209 = 2.256 BTC [+]
Dec 09 02:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5979 @ 0.00052224 = 3.1225 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 02:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005207 = 2.2499 BTC [-]
Dec 09 02:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.00052049 = 3.0079 BTC [-]
Dec 09 02:29:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00052049 = 6.5582 BTC [-]
Dec 09 02:48:29 <Diablo-D3>	anyone see nam lately?
Dec 09 02:49:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4237 @ 0.00052049 = 2.2053 BTC [-]
Dec 09 02:49:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18863 @ 0.00052043 = 9.8169 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 02:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052192 = 2.2552 BTC [+]
Dec 09 02:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8152 @ 0.00052224 = 4.2573 BTC [+]
Dec 09 02:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3127 @ 0.00052259 = 1.6341 BTC [+]
Dec 09 02:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 175 @ 0.20324472 = 35.5678 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 03:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052258 = 2.2581 BTC [-]
Dec 09 03:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6379 @ 0.00052259 = 3.3336 BTC [+]
Dec 09 03:19:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3826 @ 0.00052259 = 1.9994 BTC [+]
Dec 09 03:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18451 @ 0.00052332 = 9.6558 BTC [+]
Dec 09 03:19:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7559 @ 0.00052565 = 3.9734 BTC [+]
Dec 09 03:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.0005255 = 2.1546 BTC [-]
Dec 09 03:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00052156 = 4.3488 BTC [-]
Dec 09 03:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052057 = 2.2494 BTC [-]
Dec 09 03:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9959 @ 0.00052043 = 5.183 BTC [-]
Dec 09 03:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6982 @ 0.0005203 = 3.6327 BTC [-]
Dec 09 04:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell davout you know bitcoin-central is popping cert warnings
Dec 09 04:01:06 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 09 04:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 221 @ 0.0005255 = 0.1161 BTC [+]
Dec 09 04:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7064 @ 0.00052565 = 3.7132 BTC [+]
Dec 09 04:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052542 = 2.2703 BTC [-]
Dec 09 04:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4927 @ 0.00052565 = 2.5899 BTC [+]
Dec 09 04:22:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00052893 = 3.2794 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 04:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00053191 = 11.4361 BTC [+]
Dec 09 04:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2835 @ 0.00053119 = 1.5059 BTC [-]
Dec 09 04:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12943 @ 0.00052873 = 6.8434 BTC [-]
Dec 09 04:47:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3422 @ 0.00052495 = 1.7964 BTC [-]
Dec 09 04:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00053191 = 2.101 BTC [+]
Dec 09 04:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16078 @ 0.00053304 = 8.5702 BTC [+]
Dec 09 04:49:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052437 = 2.2658 BTC [-]
Dec 09 04:49:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3079 @ 0.00052434 = 1.6144 BTC [-]
Dec 09 04:54:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053299 = 2.303 BTC [+]
Dec 09 04:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30092 @ 0.00053304 = 16.0402 BTC [+]
Dec 09 04:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15443 @ 0.00053305 = 8.2319 BTC [+]
Dec 09 04:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile back at the ranch http://clientsfromhell.net/post/4931111455/i-want-you-to-go-to-google-images-and-search-for
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Dec 09 05:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 180000 @ 0.00339 = 610.2 BTC [+]
Dec 09 05:03:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 39226 @ 0.00339 = 132.9761 BTC [+]
Dec 09 05:04:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 294 @ 0.00339 = 0.9967 BTC [+]
Dec 09 05:06:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 890 @ 0.13290581 = 118.2862 BTC [+]
Dec 09 05:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 95000 @ 0.00339 = 322.05 BTC [+]
Dec 09 05:16:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 101750 @ 0.00339 = 344.9325 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 05:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	smickles http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14j542/the_bitcoin_drama_timeline/ seems they like it
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Dec 09 05:51:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17216 @ 0.00053262 = 9.1696 BTC [-]
Dec 09 05:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7034 @ 0.00053305 = 3.7495 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 05:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8394 @ 0.00053305 = 4.4744 BTC [+]
Dec 09 05:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4056 @ 0.00053313 = 2.1624 BTC [+]
Dec 09 06:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052857 = 2.284 BTC [-]
Dec 09 06:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1979 @ 0.00052845 = 1.0458 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 06:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00053111 = 2.1776 BTC [+]
Dec 09 06:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005303 = 2.2914 BTC [-]
Dec 09 06:26:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11915 @ 0.00053023 = 6.3177 BTC [-]
Dec 09 06:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16335 @ 0.00053023 = 8.6613 BTC [-]
Dec 09 06:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5915 @ 0.00052845 = 3.1258 BTC [-]
Dec 09 06:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00052845 = 7.1869 BTC [-]
Dec 09 06:49:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1756 @ 0.00052845 = 0.928 BTC [-]
Dec 09 06:49:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21540 @ 0.00052722 = 11.3563 BTC [-]
Dec 09 06:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6304 @ 0.00052434 = 3.3054 BTC [-]
Dec 09 06:52:30 <PsychoticBoy>	Do you own PGM shares? Pls vote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78638.60
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Dec 09 07:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052455 = 2.2666 BTC [+]
Dec 09 07:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8217 @ 0.00052434 = 4.3085 BTC [-]
Dec 09 07:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00052353 = 4.9474 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 07:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00052083 = 4.4271 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 07:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7981 @ 0.00052257 = 4.1706 BTC [+]
Dec 09 07:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18497 @ 0.00052083 = 9.6338 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 07:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00052083 = 1.4844 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 07:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3831 @ 0.00052257 = 2.002 BTC [+]
Dec 09 07:42:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 221 @ 0.0005291 = 0.1169 BTC [+]
Dec 09 07:42:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00052939 = 2.6734 BTC [+]
Dec 09 07:43:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] [PAID] 500000 @ 0.00013201 = 66.00300001 BTC
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Dec 09 07:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053085 = 2.2938 BTC [+]
Dec 09 07:50:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14133 @ 0.00053119 = 7.5073 BTC [+]
Dec 09 07:50:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3946 @ 0.00053313 = 2.1037 BTC [+]
Dec 09 08:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053289 = 2.3026 BTC [-]
Dec 09 08:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1729 @ 0.00053313 = 0.9218 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 08:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00053313 = 3.1988 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 08:31:36 <pigeons>	oh noes http://www.businessinsider.com/catfish-have-learned-how-to-hunt-pigeons-2012-12
Dec 09 08:35:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4994 @ 0.00053071 = 2.6504 BTC [-]
Dec 09 08:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053013 = 2.2907 BTC [-]
Dec 09 08:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8029 @ 0.00053003 = 4.2556 BTC [-]
Dec 09 08:35:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1869 @ 0.00052543 = 0.982 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 09:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052134 = 2.2527 BTC [-]
Dec 09 09:01:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8579 @ 0.00052131 = 4.4723 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 09:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052144 = 2.2531 BTC [+]
Dec 09 09:21:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12079 @ 0.00052131 = 6.2969 BTC [-]
Dec 09 09:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00052131 = 2.0331 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 09:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10754 @ 0.00052131 = 5.6062 BTC [-]
Dec 09 09:48:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3653 @ 0.00052083 = 1.9026 BTC [-]
Dec 09 09:48:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3943 @ 0.0005203 = 2.0515 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 10:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052181 = 2.2547 BTC [+]
Dec 09 10:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5237 @ 0.00052188 = 2.7331 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 10:12:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4442 @ 0.00052242 = 2.3206 BTC [+]
Dec 09 10:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6025 @ 0.0005203 = 3.1348 BTC [-]
Dec 09 10:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18233 @ 0.00052024 = 9.4855 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 10:17:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3354 @ 0.00052059 = 1.7461 BTC [+]
Dec 09 10:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 967 @ 0.00052059 = 0.5034 BTC [+]
Dec 09 10:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10917 @ 0.00052024 = 5.6795 BTC [-]
Dec 09 10:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15866 @ 0.00051965 = 8.2448 BTC [-]
Dec 09 10:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2821 @ 0.00053013 = 1.4955 BTC [+]
Dec 09 10:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1402 @ 0.0033995 = 4.7661 BTC [+]
Dec 09 10:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 698 @ 0.0034 = 2.3732 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 10:53:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17555 @ 0.00051965 = 9.1225 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 11:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052105 = 2.2515 BTC [+]
Dec 09 11:05:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00052139 = 6.2827 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 11:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00053013 = 0.7952 BTC [+]
Dec 09 11:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00053048 = 3.7929 BTC [+]
Dec 09 11:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00053313 = 6.4509 BTC [+]
Dec 09 11:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053294 = 2.3028 BTC [-]
Dec 09 11:14:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2909 @ 0.00053313 = 1.5509 BTC [+]
Dec 09 11:14:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7684 @ 0.00053315 = 4.0967 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 11:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052661 = 2.2755 BTC [-]
Dec 09 11:25:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7429 @ 0.00052653 = 3.9116 BTC [-]
Dec 09 11:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00051965 = 3.1179 BTC [-]
Dec 09 11:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053293 = 2.3028 BTC [+]
Dec 09 11:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12316 @ 0.00053315 = 6.5663 BTC [+]
Dec 09 11:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8613 @ 0.00053316 = 4.5921 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 11:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00053316 = 9.4103 BTC [+]
Dec 09 11:46:16 <kakobreklaaa>	more fun https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129941.0
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Dec 09 11:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051974 = 2.2458 BTC [-]
Dec 09 11:48:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16284 @ 0.00051965 = 8.462 BTC [-]
Dec 09 11:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 445 @ 0.00051965 = 0.2312 BTC [-]
Dec 09 11:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5738 @ 0.00051917 = 2.979 BTC [-]
Dec 09 11:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00051907 = 4.2045 BTC [-]
Dec 09 11:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5862 @ 0.00051869 = 3.0406 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 11:55:49 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Dec 09 11:55:51 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 211535 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 144 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 2 hours, 9 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3378632.47116087 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.75277943373
Dec 09 11:59:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051902 = 2.2427 BTC [+]
Dec 09 11:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005188 = 2.2417 BTC [-]
Dec 09 11:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23949 @ 0.00051869 = 12.4221 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 12:06:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1047 @ 0.00051869 = 0.5431 BTC [-]
Dec 09 12:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5103 @ 0.00051833 = 2.645 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 12:18:37 <smickles>	mircea_popescu is a "counterstrike-playing-forever-alone-keyboard-hero"
Dec 09 12:19:12 <smickles>	source: http://bit.ly/TL9LNh
Dec 09 12:20:33 <smickles>	lol, I <3 garziks's comment
Dec 09 12:20:40 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14j542/the_bitcoin_drama_timeline/c7dlcra
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Dec 09 12:45:17 <Namjies>	Aye, no one to loan me 100 BTC for BitVPS shares as collateral?
Dec 09 12:45:32 <smickles>	hmm
Dec 09 12:46:01 <smickles>	has there been any development in the uncertainty with BitVPS?
Dec 09 12:46:13 <Namjies>	What uncertainty?
Dec 09 12:46:34 <Namjies>	People just say rg is not much around, as far as I know.
Dec 09 12:46:36 <smickles>	well, for a time they weren't fulfilling their shareholder contract obligations
Dec 09 12:46:48 <smickles>	rg said he wanted to sell bitvps to his boss
Dec 09 12:46:50 <smickles>	they said no
Dec 09 12:47:21 <smickles>	also, rg may have said that he doesn't care about bitcoin now that he has a job
Dec 09 12:47:34 <Namjies>	Ah. Not what I heard.
Dec 09 12:47:56 <smickles>	it was quoted to me in a pm
Dec 09 12:48:09 <smickles>	(the bit about not caring)
Dec 09 12:48:34 <smickles>	the rest of it, and rg not being around much are from my reading of #bitvps
Dec 09 12:48:49 <smickles>	also, gruble (iirc) ran off with the paypal account
Dec 09 12:48:53 <Namjies>	He did say he was working 60+ hours weeks hence why he wasn't around much. But if I leave him a PM he answers me after some time.
Dec 09 12:49:11 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: okay so
Dec 09 12:49:18 *	smickles forever alone in rg world
Dec 09 12:49:22 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: refresh my memories
Dec 09 12:49:27 <smickles>	when i pm him he doesn't answer :(
Dec 09 12:49:30 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: btc-mining is yours, right?
Dec 09 12:49:42 <Namjies>	Yes
Dec 09 12:49:47 <Namjies>	Ah
Dec 09 12:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	ahh what did i miss
Dec 09 12:51:17 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: okay so
Dec 09 12:51:21 <Diablo-D3>	for those who own shares
Dec 09 12:51:23 <Diablo-D3>	we are fucked, right?
Dec 09 12:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i was reading that yest.
Dec 09 12:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	dunno what the big deal is, catfish jumped out of water since 4evar.
Dec 09 12:51:53 <smickles>	Namjies: I might lend 100btc with MPBOR as colat.
Dec 09 12:52:41 <Namjies>	Last I heard last week, he had a new provider for servers. (Maybe his boss? Maybe that's the company he works for). He'd keep the BitVPS front and dividends as usual but would rent servers there. He's apparently very happy about it. Lower costs for him, and he gets 24/7 support free from the provider. Plus automatic provision upon payment.
Dec 09 12:52:52 <PsychoticBoy>	good evening
Dec 09 12:53:05 <smickles>	;;seen doffx
Dec 09 12:53:06 <gribble>	doffx was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 21 hours, 41 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <Doffx> That is for sure.
Dec 09 12:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	smickles lol @cbeast. wtf is with people
Dec 09 12:53:17 <Namjies>	He'd keep all the old nodes around the world for current customers.
Dec 09 12:53:39 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: answer meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Dec 09 12:53:53 <Namjies>	I was answering smickles first, sorry.
Dec 09 12:53:56 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: sweet, savory comments, that's what's up
Dec 09 12:54:19 <mircea_popescu>	who is he anyway
Dec 09 12:54:23 <Namjies>	I'm not sure about BTC-MINING. I have to get a hold of Amazingrando.
Dec 09 12:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	41 up votes 11 down votes whoa that;s pretty hefty.
Dec 09 12:54:44 <Diablo-D3>	amazingrando probably like fled to pirate's house in the gayman islands
Dec 09 12:55:02 <smickles>	Namjies: it is his boss/company that he works for that is the new provider, nice rigs apparently too.
Dec 09 12:55:51 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: cbeast? isn't he one of those animal derivetive transformers?
Dec 09 12:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea
Dec 09 12:56:31 <Diablo-D3>	HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE HERE
Dec 09 12:56:36 <Diablo-D3>	who the fuck owns nameterrific?
Dec 09 12:56:40 <smickles>	"I don't vote on nonissues"
Dec 09 12:56:50 <Diablo-D3>	smickles, mircea_popescu, I know one of you two fucking know this
Dec 09 12:56:57 <smickles>	42
Dec 09 12:57:13 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: zt
Dec 09 12:57:17 <Namjies>	I don't
Dec 09 12:57:31 *	Diablo-D3 flags his fucking account on hn for promoting scamterriffic
Dec 09 12:57:41 <mircea_popescu>	isn't it the new start-up genjix was pusghing ?
Dec 09 12:57:45 <smickles>	as in the notorious z-o-t
Dec 09 12:57:56 <Diablo-D3>	https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4894376
Dec 09 12:57:58 <smickles>	zhoutong
Dec 09 12:58:00 <Diablo-D3>	get hn accounts, flag.
Dec 09 12:58:25 <smickles>	;;ud zot
Dec 09 12:58:26 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zot | The sound an anteater makes when sticking out its long tongue.
Dec 09 12:58:38 <smickles>	what?
Dec 09 12:58:44 <Diablo-D3>	I thought that was more of a troz
Dec 09 12:58:52 <smickles>	no USENET Oracal referrence?
Dec 09 12:59:00 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: no, you want nethack for that
Dec 09 13:00:04 <smickles>	jeez even such as wikipedia get it
Dec 09 13:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00338347 = 2.7068 BTC [-]
Dec 09 13:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 470 @ 0.0033 = 1.551 BTC [-]
Dec 09 13:00:49 <Diablo-D3>	so according to this
Dec 09 13:00:59 <Diablo-D3>	zhoutong lives in melbourne
Dec 09 13:01:05 <Diablo-D3>	why the fuck has no one beat coins out of him yet
Dec 09 13:01:13 <smickles>	i did hear him claim to move down under
Dec 09 13:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	heh it's official, twitter eats trades.
Dec 09 13:03:07 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I thought we already knew that
Dec 09 13:03:17 <Diablo-D3>	its probably the maximum message limit
Dec 09 13:03:23 <Diablo-D3>	you can only do like 100 tweets a day or some shit
Dec 09 13:03:35 <Diablo-D3>	just wire your own irc bot up or some shit
Dec 09 13:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	nah cause it ate the first in a 3 items line-up
Dec 09 13:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	there was another trade in s.dice with those two, for like 8k
Dec 09 13:05:59 <mircea_popescu>	PsychoticBoy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129941.0
Dec 09 13:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	i had no idea your entire fund was worth like 100 btc.
Dec 09 13:07:05 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: I warned you that the twitter api use rules had changed
Dec 09 13:07:15 <kakobrekla>	we should change the protocol
Dec 09 13:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	srsly.
Dec 09 13:08:03 <smickles>	http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu#Accolades
Dec 09 13:09:35 *	mircea_popescu clicks on 2 ^ [1] bs link, discovers that apparently it's an interstitial
Dec 09 13:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	which advertises mpex...
Dec 09 13:10:17 <PsychoticBoy>	<mircea_popescu> i had no idea your entire fund was worth like 100 btc.<< I have only bought back 20% of 1000 shares which represent 1 BFL single so
Dec 09 13:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	so the guy is only talking of 10% ?
Dec 09 13:10:37 <PsychoticBoy>	ABM is up at BitFunder
Dec 09 13:10:51 <PsychoticBoy>	he only owned 70 shares of that 200
Dec 09 13:11:08 <PsychoticBoy>	so he did recieve 7.7 btc
Dec 09 13:11:22 <PsychoticBoy>	only he thinks its not enough
Dec 09 13:12:20 <Diablo-D3>	fucking little shit
Dec 09 13:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	so basically, bitcoin magazine is done for.
Dec 09 13:13:01 <Diablo-D3>	I think everyone here should get hn accounts
Dec 09 13:13:12 <Diablo-D3>	then flag that story and downvote zhoutong
Dec 09 13:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0034 = 4.08 BTC [+]
Dec 09 13:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	what's hn again ?
Dec 09 13:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	"Mihai never denied this. His whole point had been that his girlfriend deserves cash and/or equity because Vladimir's wife had already been paid cash/equity."
Dec 09 13:15:20 <smickles>	hackernews?
Dec 09 13:15:25 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: hacker news
Dec 09 13:15:36 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha o god ty bitcoin for being here for when there's nothing on snl
Dec 09 13:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 you're basically proposing we all get another set of btctalk accounts. ffs.
Dec 09 13:16:10 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no
Dec 09 13:16:17 <Diablo-D3>	hackernews is pg's news site
Dec 09 13:16:32 <Diablo-D3>	ie, people with lots of money read this stie
Dec 09 13:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	trust me. people with lots of money read nothing.
Dec 09 13:16:51 <Diablo-D3>	well, lots of money and/or access to lots of money because they run lucrative tech startups in the bay area
Dec 09 13:17:00 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised
Dec 09 13:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	yaya access to lots of money's cocks.
Dec 09 13:17:20 <Diablo-D3>	I know a guy who has a lot of money and finds it fun to troll irc
Dec 09 13:17:43 <Diablo-D3>	then again, he wrote most of the code that modern ircds use (including the one you're talking on right now)
Dec 09 13:17:47 <Diablo-D3>	so /me shrugs
Dec 09 13:18:22 <Diablo-D3>	I know strange people.
Dec 09 13:18:36 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: also, who the fuck is mpoe_pr?
Dec 09 13:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053292 = 2.3027 BTC [+]
Dec 09 13:18:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00053316 = 3.7742 BTC [+]
Dec 09 13:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	the chick that reads for me.
Dec 09 13:19:11 <Diablo-D3>	cant she get a real accouunt?
Dec 09 13:19:14 <Diablo-D3>	with a real name?
Dec 09 13:19:21 <Diablo-D3>	and stop acting like a meat condom
Dec 09 13:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	say wut ?
Dec 09 13:20:23 *	Diablo-D3 makes a new bct account, FakeMPOE_PR
Dec 09 13:21:13 <Diablo-D3>	<FakeMPOE_PR> EVERYONE, MY LORD AND MASTER, MIRCEA, DEMANDS THAT YOU THROW EGGS AT NEFARIO'S HOUSE
Dec 09 13:21:14 <mircea_popescu>	how do you figure mpoe-pr is less "real" than diablo-d3 ?
Dec 09 13:21:29 <Diablo-D3>	because Ive been using it since 1991 and its not named "DMC-PR"
Dec 09 13:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	i'm pretty sure if it weren't for mpoe/mpex she wouldn't be touching that forum with a 10 foot cock.
Dec 09 13:22:56 <Diablo-D3>	and since you dont have a ten foot cock, we'll never know
Dec 09 13:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	meh, the bitcoin mag drama is fizzling.
Dec 09 13:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	what shall be next week's bread ?!
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Dec 09 13:28:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052569 = 2.2715 BTC [-]
Dec 09 13:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7829 @ 0.00052556 = 4.1146 BTC [-]
Dec 09 13:32:39 *	toffoo (~tof@187.67.17.146) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 09 13:33:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14171 @ 0.00052556 = 7.4477 BTC [-]
Dec 09 13:33:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4179 @ 0.00052472 = 2.1928 BTC [-]
Dec 09 13:33:20 *	hnz (hnz@dslb-088-076-061-108.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 09 13:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053312 = 2.3036 BTC [+]
Dec 09 13:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 981 @ 0.00053316 = 0.523 BTC [+]
Dec 09 13:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 09 13:38:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0033 / 0.0033888 / 0.0034 (437077 shares, 1,481.17 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00333957 / 0.0034 (1711907 shares, 5,717.04 BTC)
Dec 09 13:38:42 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Dec 09 13:38:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.27092, Best ask: 13.27093, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.27092, 24 hour volume: 27457.97185821, 24 hour low: 13.02100, 24 hour high: 13.53000, 24 hour vwap: 13.24630
Dec 09 13:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	smickles "He also charted the losses over time and used it to speculate that we may soon see a 1 million BTC loss soon." <<< too many soons
Dec 09 13:39:30 <Diablo-D3>	>1 million btc loss
Dec 09 13:39:32 <Diablo-D3>	so... all of it?
Dec 09 13:42:13 <smickles>	oh lol, i need a proof reader
Dec 09 13:44:03 *	Ukto yawns and read sup
Dec 09 13:44:19 <Namjies>	mircea_popescu, next week's bread will be sourdough because of the sour aftertaste it will leave.
Dec 09 13:44:25 <smickles>	heh, apparently, people who come come look at my blog, now -on average- view a second page of it as well :D
Dec 09 13:44:52 <Namjies>	Sounds like all an achievement.
Dec 09 13:45:33 <Namjies>	Also, who else was not aware BitVPS dividends seen on MPEx is split on 500k shares, not 1 million?
Dec 09 13:47:03 <Namjies>	Apparently, few others than those who received dividends know about it.
Dec 09 13:47:41 <smickles>	Namjies: it's a quirk of the way mpex works
Dec 09 13:47:46 <smickles>	iirc
Dec 09 13:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. because only half the shares are  actually available to issuer.
Dec 09 13:48:31 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [S.BVPS] [PAID] 500000 @ 0.00013201 = 66.00300001 BTC << i think anyone who's on irc knows about it
Dec 09 13:48:41 <Namjies>	Is it so for all issuers?
Dec 09 13:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	yes. because shares are non-voting the owner can never sell more than half thr shares
Dec 09 13:49:11 <mircea_popescu>	this is actually enforced by he never having more than half the shares at all.
Dec 09 13:49:40 <Namjies>	Ah. I didn't know it was forced on all issuers.
Dec 09 13:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	yup.
Dec 09 13:50:03 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise someone could issue 1mn shares, sell 999k or w/e and just go all vladimir
Dec 09 13:50:24 <Namjies>	SatoshiDice has only 10% issued on MPEx, not 50% tho, if I recall correctly?
Dec 09 13:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Dec 09 13:50:39 <Namjies>	So it can be less too. Just not over 50%
Dec 09 13:50:41 <smickles>	woah, was that nearly a 4% dividend?
Dec 09 13:50:47 <Namjies>	4.4%
Dec 09 13:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	smickles was a pretty huge dividend yeah. im kinda sorry i sold mine
Dec 09 13:51:01 <Namjies>	based on a price of 0.003
Dec 09 13:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker S.BVPS
Dec 09 13:51:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.00200004 / 0.00309201 / 0.00349995 (194457 shares, 601.26 BTC)
Dec 09 13:51:14 <smickles>	price is .0034 now tho
Dec 09 13:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	30 day avg seems a fair price point
Dec 09 13:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.00013201 / 0.00309201
Dec 09 13:51:42 <gribble>	0.0426939110805
Dec 09 13:52:13 <Namjies>	Aye
Dec 09 13:52:16 <smickles>	er, i was looking at the s.dice price, i guess
Dec 09 13:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.003725 = 3.725 BTC [+]
Dec 09 13:53:59 <Namjies>	I guess someone wanted the remaining ask
Dec 09 13:54:18 <smickles>	there's no asks left?
Dec 09 13:54:31 <Namjies>	and another appeared for 1.5k at 0.004
Dec 09 13:54:35 <Namjies>	Odd
Dec 09 13:55:00 <Namjies>	I bought most asks by now.
Dec 09 13:55:12 <Namjies>	I don't see much asks.
Dec 09 13:56:52 <mircea_popescu>	so month's output on mpex was
Dec 09 13:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 216.98548119 + 401.57162897 + 66.00300001
Dec 09 13:57:11 <gribble>	684.56011017
Dec 09 13:57:20 <mircea_popescu>	like 14 blocks
Dec 09 13:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	o no wait. reward halved. like 28 blocks
Dec 09 13:57:36 <Namjies>	Yes
Dec 09 13:57:49 <mircea_popescu>	this not counting options of course, that's be another 2.1k
Dec 09 13:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052483 = 2.2678 BTC [-]
Dec 09 13:57:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10879 @ 0.00052472 = 5.7084 BTC [-]
Dec 09 13:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,calc 325000000
Dec 09 13:59:24 <gribble>	use the 'gentime' command instead
Dec 09 13:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;gentime 32500000
Dec 09 13:59:34 <gribble>	The average time to generate a block at 32500000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3438908.96016, is 7 minutes and 34 seconds
Dec 09 13:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 3600*24*30
Dec 09 13:59:52 <gribble>	2592000
Dec 09 13:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 3600*24*30 / 28
Dec 09 13:59:55 <gribble>	92571.4285714
Dec 09 14:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;gentime 325000
Dec 09 14:00:14 <gribble>	The average time to generate a block at 325000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3438908.96016, is 12 hours, 37 minutes, and 26 seconds
Dec 09 14:00:45 <smickles>	Namjies: you have the market cornered on s.bvps then?
Dec 09 14:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	so mpex mines with like 160Gh/s
Dec 09 14:01:15 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: sounds like you're getting into dmc math
Dec 09 14:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Dec 09 14:01:44 <Namjies>	I have 77% of circulating shares (175k)
Dec 09 14:01:54 <Namjies>	Assuming rg didn't sell any more.
Dec 09 14:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	iirc rg liked the price going up
Dec 09 14:02:09 <Namjies>	So that sounds about accurate.
Dec 09 14:03:24 <mircea_popescu>	Dr. J R Gribble, PHD Psychology
Dec 09 14:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.everydayhealth.com/doctors/dr-j-r-gribble-phd-63246379
Dec 09 14:03:51 <Namjies>	Whut?
Dec 09 14:04:16 <smickles>	nanotube should claim that profile
Dec 09 14:04:21 <Namjies>	That seemed random
Dec 09 14:04:26 <Namjies>	Yes, he should
Dec 09 14:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/ look rg has an ad on slush's pool ?!
Dec 09 14:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21629 @ 0.00052472 = 11.3492 BTC [-]
Dec 09 14:06:18 <Ukto>	nice
Dec 09 14:07:05 <Namjies>	RG has ads in many places I think. I thought he hosted a few well known bitcoin service and had his link place on those.
Dec 09 14:07:42 <Namjies>	I'm not sure if he pays for ads or if there's deals for them.
Dec 09 14:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool. didn't know about this one
Dec 09 14:09:44 <Namjies>	I always say BitVPS as a good choice on MPEx
Dec 09 14:10:13 <Namjies>	Only reason I didn't get more before was the ~6% weekly profit I was making trading on GLBSE instead.
Dec 09 14:10:34 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, lot good that did
Dec 09 14:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	there was a passthrough anyway
Dec 09 14:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	or was there ?
Dec 09 14:10:52 <smickles>	brendio did it
Dec 09 14:11:22 <smickles>	you offered it to me, seems i was smart to decline
Dec 09 14:11:33 <Namjies>	Yes, there was. I had brendio get back my pass-through shares and transfer them to me on MPEx when I got my account. Soon after, GLBSE closed.
Dec 09 14:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol lucky move.
Dec 09 14:11:55 <Namjies>	Aye
Dec 09 14:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	jesus god will i never get this motherfucking oil sorted out
Dec 09 14:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	gah
Dec 09 14:14:30 <Namjies>	Well luckily I didn't borrow on GLBSE at a high interest. 0.5% weekly was very high already. Sure there was large margins for trading on price differences but I was fearing a large loss was inevitable. Wasn't expecting GLBSE closing tho.
Dec 09 14:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	heh. the mpbor is what, 10% pm
Dec 09 14:17:29 <Namjies>	mpbor?
Dec 09 14:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	well yes ? first time you hear of it ?
Dec 09 14:22:17 <Namjies>	No, I forgot how that works however.
Dec 09 14:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	it's the mpoe bonds settlement price
Dec 09 14:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	acts as a sort of universal rate for a month
Dec 09 14:24:53 <Namjies>	Yes, there was interest too for balances related to that but it was abolished I believe. Probably because MPEx's capital meet the demand in full?
Dec 09 14:26:33 <mircea_popescu>	no, mostly because there's no sane way to use the balances.
Dec 09 14:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	as in, the entire lending of btc thing is borkt.
Dec 09 14:27:11 *	smickles is an mpbor troll
Dec 09 14:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	what'd you do ?!
Dec 09 14:27:54 <smickles>	oh you know, but it's a secret
Dec 09 14:28:29 *	mircea_popescu likes trolls
Dec 09 14:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	on the firm belief that a system that's not built to thrive on trolls isn't built to last.
Dec 09 14:30:09 <smickles>	hey, i thought the mpoe statemtnets weren't behind the wall :|
Dec 09 14:30:36 <smickles>	it's like i temp. deleted that cookie for no good reason :P
Dec 09 14:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	too much hassle to make exclusions :D
Dec 09 14:31:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00052764 = 9.5239 BTC [+]
Dec 09 14:31:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11963 @ 0.00052472 = 6.2772 BTC [-]
Dec 09 14:31:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6747 @ 0.00051833 = 3.4972 BTC [-]
Dec 09 14:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 517 @ 0.00051831 = 0.268 BTC [-]
Dec 09 14:36:18 <Namjies>	Aren't those statement published on bitcointalk too anyway?
Dec 09 14:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Dec 09 14:37:55 <Namjies>	Aye
Dec 09 14:38:17 <Namjies>	Well I'll be AFK for a bit.
Dec 09 14:38:40 <EskimoBob>	is brendio still in hiding? I like to dump that BitVPS PT crap on him he sold to GLBSE
Dec 09 14:40:27 <dub>	woah Namjies is double hyphenated
Dec 09 14:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob prolly Namjies wants to buy
Dec 09 14:44:31 <Namjies>	Is brendio actually gone?
Dec 09 14:45:23 <Namjies>	How much was there in that pass-through when GLBSE closed by the way?
Dec 09 14:45:37 <EskimoBob>	he lurks around the forum but is not answering to pm and questions.
Dec 09 14:45:37 <Namjies>	also, what do you mean, dub?
Dec 09 14:45:48 <Namjies>	Hmm...
Dec 09 14:46:24 <dub>	actually I think a single name has to have two hyphens
Dec 09 14:46:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen brendio
Dec 09 14:46:29 <gribble>	brendio was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 weeks, 2 days, 4 hours, 40 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <brendio> *nef
Dec 09 14:46:36 <EskimoBob>	So mircea_popescu, how do you like that "short sell" gigamining idea?
Dec 09 14:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya haven't seen much of him
Dec 09 14:46:39 <dub>	whereas you have one in each name
Dec 09 14:46:51 <dub>	if that is your real name, which it seems to be
Dec 09 14:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob neither here nor there.
Dec 09 14:47:04 <Namjies>	Oh, my actual name.
Dec 09 14:47:08 <Namjies>	Yes.
Dec 09 14:47:29 <Namjies>	EskimoBob: I bought almost all of BitVPS on MPEx by now. How many shares were circulating in the pass-through?
Dec 09 14:47:35 <Namjies>	Do you have any idea?
Dec 09 14:47:51 <dub>	Namjies: thanks for the payout anyway
Dec 09 14:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	50k or something ?
Dec 09 14:47:56 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: I do not now put this is probably in the forum
Dec 09 14:48:30 <dub>	my first glbse recovery
Dec 09 14:48:39 <Namjies>	There's only 39k shares left I don't own.
Dec 09 14:48:44 <EskimoBob>	I have few and I like to get rid of them but brendio is gone
Dec 09 14:49:10 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87358.msg1090543#msg1090543
Dec 09 14:49:14 <Namjies>	If he had more than that owed, I probably bought em off of him by now that means.
Dec 09 14:50:22 <Namjies>	Ah, maybe he doesn't have more than that. He might have those 39k shares I'm missing.
Dec 09 14:50:39 <EskimoBob>	I have a tiny fraction of those
Dec 09 14:50:47 <EskimoBob>	BIB.BVPS
Dec 09 14:51:07 <Namjies>	Before GLBSE closed, I had passthrough shares I had transfered to MPEx and were removed from the pass-through. Maybe others did the same.
Dec 09 14:51:23 <Namjies>	Hopefully he still have those shares.
Dec 09 14:51:41 <dub>	Namjies: what did the kraken pt ipo at? was it 0.1?
Dec 09 14:51:48 <Namjies>	Yes
Dec 09 14:51:55 <Namjies>	No
Dec 09 14:51:58 <Namjies>	0.01
Dec 09 14:52:03 <Namjies>	missing one zero
Dec 09 14:52:09 <dub>	k, ta
Dec 09 14:52:25 <Namjies>	Had 500 BTC/50000 shares.
Dec 09 14:53:00 <Namjies>	Including over 100 BTC from me because I was keeping more deposited than I had sold so divs were always covered.
Dec 09 14:53:14 <EskimoBob>	looks like http://www.bitvps.com hav latest info from june. Did they go under?
Dec 09 14:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	they just paid dividend.
Dec 09 14:54:23 <Namjies>	66 BTC / 500k shares
Dec 09 14:54:45 <Namjies>	Which means monthly profit total was ~1700 USD this month.
Dec 09 14:56:27 <Namjies>	Well, they didn't go under at all.
Dec 09 14:56:46 <Namjies>	New provider with cheaper nodes for better. Plus 24/7 support.
Dec 09 14:57:06 <Namjies>	Is what rg will be getting from his new employer apparently.
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Dec 09 15:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.0005308 = 1.327 BTC [+]
Dec 09 15:00:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053284 = 2.3024 BTC [+]
Dec 09 15:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 258 @ 0.00053316 = 0.1376 BTC [+]
Dec 09 15:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00053317 = 2.3459 BTC [+]
Dec 09 15:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6521 @ 0.00053319 = 3.4769 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 15:03:19 <Rothgar>	assbot you smell
Dec 09 15:03:43 *	Rothgar holds his nose
Dec 09 15:03:53 <Namjies>	Hey Roth. I see you have your eye on the bot.
Dec 09 15:04:18 <Rothgar>	yea, looking good if it weren't for that smell
Dec 09 15:05:26 <Rothgar>	assbot, take a shower and I'll take you out
Dec 09 15:06:26 <Rothgar>	assbot, I might be able to arrange a threesome if you clean up.
Dec 09 15:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	o look, it's a Rothgar
Dec 09 15:08:20 <Namjies>	Yeah, don't go around flirting too much. I've seen you with danieldaniel earlier. You'll get your conquests jealous!
Dec 09 15:08:55 <Rothgar>	OK maybe I should take it private.
Dec 09 15:10:38 <PsychoticBoy>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129941.0  << do I deserve a Scammer Tag?
Dec 09 15:16:42 <jurov>	namijes, you can do 'BUY|S.BVPS|2000' nao :p
Dec 09 15:18:19 <Namjies>	... yeah right
Dec 09 15:20:29 <jurov>	apparently mpex considers price above 9999 to be malformed order
Dec 09 15:21:21 <Namjies>	Well I fear the day shares will be worth over 131000 USD a piece
Dec 09 15:21:48 <Namjies>	That's like 500x the price of shares of top corporations.
Dec 09 15:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053292 = 2.3027 BTC [-]
Dec 09 15:22:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8579 @ 0.00053319 = 4.5742 BTC [+]
Dec 09 15:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9044 @ 0.00053328 = 4.823 BTC [+]
Dec 09 15:22:49 <jurov>	oh, just few more rounds of quantitative easing will do
Dec 09 15:23:55 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy: how many shares did you sell?
Dec 09 15:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053323 = 2.3041 BTC [-]
Dec 09 15:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20956 @ 0.00053328 = 11.1754 BTC [+]
Dec 09 15:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 973 @ 0.00053329 = 0.5189 BTC [+]
Dec 09 15:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	jurov huh ?
Dec 09 15:28:33 <Namjies>	How many he sold is irrelevant. 1 share = 1/1000th
Dec 09 15:28:50 <Namjies>	If he sells 1, then the person who bought it owns 1/1000th.
Dec 09 15:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00053329 = 7.5461 BTC [+]
Dec 09 15:29:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 775 @ 0.19181095 = 148.6535 BTC [-]
Dec 09 15:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies berkshire is something like 100k iirc
Dec 09 15:31:25 <mircea_popescu>	a, jurov, yes, 9999.99999999 BTC is the most you can pay for a unit.
Dec 09 15:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	"should be enough for anyone"
Dec 09 15:32:18 <jurov>	it's not enough for precious last bvps share
Dec 09 15:32:28 <mircea_popescu>	awell
Dec 09 15:33:17 <dub>	make it 640k?
Dec 09 15:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 09 15:33:33 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't it 64k ?
Dec 09 15:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	nono, it was 4k!
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Dec 09 15:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	whereas this is quite literally over 9 thousand.
Dec 09 15:34:20 <jurov>	hehe, it's actually 999999999999. unless mircea uses floats
Dec 09 15:35:27 <jurov>	like other professional futures platforms
Dec 09 15:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	which we shan;t name
Dec 09 15:35:55 <Namjies>	mircea_popescu, I suppose there's a very low count issued.
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Dec 09 15:36:58 <mircea_popescu>	Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (BRK-A) -NYSE  131,090.00  150.00
Dec 09 15:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	Market Cap:	217.09B
Dec 09 15:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	so like 1.x mn issued.
Dec 09 15:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	fancy that it would be EXACTLY 131
Dec 09 15:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	and with that i'm off. have a ball everyone.
Dec 09 15:40:08 <Namjies>	MPEx would support Berkshire Hathaway prices, no higher.
Dec 09 15:40:09 <dub>	you have spares?
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Dec 09 15:40:37 <Namjies>	Well you won't get one today, apparently, dub.
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Dec 09 15:45:26 <PsychoticBoy>	<EskimoBob> PsychoticBoy: how many shares did you sell? << paladon sold ~440shares publicly, the other 560 shares were bought by me when I tookover PGM
Dec 09 15:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00052736 = 9.2815 BTC [-]
Dec 09 15:57:22 <Ukto>	trades starting to go now hehe https://twitter.com/BitFunder
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Dec 09 16:10:31 <JWU42>	kakobrekla: can you get the bitfunder twitter feed to run through assbot ?
Dec 09 16:10:53 <kakobrekla>	twitter api is now obsolete
Dec 09 16:10:59 <kakobrekla>	for whole 2hrs or so
Dec 09 16:11:13 <JWU42>	bummer
Dec 09 16:11:15 <kakobrekla>	i have custom api workin
Dec 09 16:12:06 <kakobrekla>	mpex is switching over in the next days
Dec 09 16:12:20 <JWU42>	got it
Dec 09 16:12:31 <JWU42>	and frankly MPEX seems to be namely one issue
Dec 09 16:12:39 <JWU42>	ex the options
Dec 09 16:13:00 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Dec 09 16:13:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00052609 = 3.2881 BTC [-]
Dec 09 16:13:37 <kakobrekla>	5 votes and ill move them to #bitcoin-assets-trades only
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Dec 09 16:14:14 <kakobrekla>	well, lets say 3 more
Dec 09 16:14:23 <kakobrekla>	cause i agree somewhat
Dec 09 16:14:53 *	dub votes aye
Dec 09 16:22:09 <Ukto>	...
Dec 09 16:22:17 <Ukto>	what? tritter api obsolete ?
Dec 09 16:22:27 <Ukto>	twatter even
Dec 09 16:27:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051852 = 2.2405 BTC [-]
Dec 09 16:27:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15057 @ 0.00051831 = 7.8042 BTC [-]
Dec 09 16:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2472 @ 0.00051815 = 1.2809 BTC [-]
Dec 09 16:36:26 *	PsychoticBoy votes Yuuuup
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Dec 09 16:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005238 = 2.2633 BTC [+]
Dec 09 16:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00052414 = 11.0331 BTC [+]
Dec 09 16:39:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.00052736 = 3.0476 BTC [+]
Dec 09 16:41:41 <kakobrekla>	>Alberto has paid 50 BTC and says he will pay 150 more within a few days. These funds will be distributed among BDT bondholders other than myself. The distribution between bondholders and the debt to me will be finalized once more payment arrives.
Dec 09 16:41:43 <kakobrekla>	zomg.
Dec 09 16:41:52 <kakobrekla>	a whole block.
Dec 09 16:42:09 <kakobrekla>	er, two blocks.
Dec 09 16:42:15 <kakobrekla>	:)
Dec 09 16:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00052736 = 1.292 BTC [+]
Dec 09 17:02:26 <dub>	have asicminer published anything wrt glbse asset?
Dec 09 17:02:46 <JWU42>	I vote yep
Dec 09 17:02:56 <JWU42>	I like the trades in another channel
Dec 09 17:02:59 <dub>	oh hey, thread is at the top, lazy dub
Dec 09 17:03:33 <kakobrekla>	i need one more vote afaik :p
Dec 09 17:03:46 <dub>	you said three ad you got three
Dec 09 17:04:12 <dub>	[16:14] >>> dub votes aye [16:36] >>> PsychoticBoy votes Yuuuup [17:02] <JWU42> I vote yep
Dec 09 17:04:39 <kakobrekla>	twas 5 - me - jwu = 3
Dec 09 17:04:51 <JWU42>	heh
Dec 09 17:04:54 <kakobrekla>	;>
Dec 09 17:05:06 <JWU42>	I am a negative influence
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Dec 09 17:05:32 <gigavps>	PsychoticBoy you using fuzzy maffs on your buyback naow?
Dec 09 17:05:37 <dub>	[17:05] <JWU42> NO dont move them!!
Dec 09 17:05:45 <dub>	there you go
Dec 09 17:06:02 <JWU42>	a negative * a negative = positive
Dec 09 17:06:08 <JWU42>	trades are gone
Dec 09 17:06:25 <JWU42>	gigavps: no pleasing everyone
Dec 09 17:06:34 <dub>	gigavps: like bitcoin, its maffamatics
Dec 09 17:06:35 <JWU42>	as PsychoticBoy is experiencing
Dec 09 17:06:42 <gigavps>	lol, i guess he's getting a taste
Dec 09 17:06:51 <gigavps>	it's always the same people in those threads too
Dec 09 17:06:58 <JWU42>	trolls
Dec 09 17:07:02 <gigavps>	deprived
Dec 09 17:07:03 <JWU42>	f;ing trolls
Dec 09 17:07:04 <PsychoticBoy>	yup I noticed
Dec 09 17:07:15 <gigavps>	augustocroppo
Dec 09 17:07:16 <JWU42>	fcmatt is my "fav"
Dec 09 17:07:27 <gigavps>	repentance
Dec 09 17:07:40 <PsychoticBoy>	I am waiting for puppet
Dec 09 17:07:41 <dub>	hey now, he is an internet lawyer
Dec 09 17:07:47 <gigavps>	monster tent
Dec 09 17:07:53 <gigavps>	lol
Dec 09 17:08:08 <gigavps>	not so much fun taking the heat huh?
Dec 09 17:09:00 <PsychoticBoy>	nope
Dec 09 17:09:26 <gigavps>	well, as JWU42 said, you can't please everyone
Dec 09 17:12:02 <PsychoticBoy>	no thats for sure
Dec 09 17:12:34 <PsychoticBoy>	I mean I would be happy If I get 30% back from what I have invested in GLBSE
Dec 09 17:12:45 <gigavps>	agreed
Dec 09 17:13:09 <Namjies>	I would be too.
Dec 09 17:13:35 <Namjies>	and it's almost all BTC-MINING/GIGAMINING
Dec 09 17:13:59 <PsychoticBoy>	mostly yes, those were the big assets
Dec 09 17:14:06 <gigavps>	Namjies email me your claim address and email address and i'll ask nefario about it
Dec 09 17:14:14 <gigavps>	james@gigamining.com
Dec 09 17:14:23 <gigavps>	he seems to be responding to me
Dec 09 17:14:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171 @ 0.00052736 = 0.0902 BTC [+]
Dec 09 17:14:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00052789 = 5.6748 BTC [+]
Dec 09 17:14:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14679 @ 0.00053253 = 7.817 BTC [+]
Dec 09 17:14:27 <gigavps>	funny story
Dec 09 17:14:30 <Namjies>	I already asked him after last time we talked.
Dec 09 17:14:39 <Namjies>	Ah well in that case
Dec 09 17:14:52 <gigavps>	i asked why two huge gigamining holders weren't on my lists the other day
Dec 09 17:15:00 <gigavps>	one is 4k and the other is 1.5k
Dec 09 17:15:28 <gigavps>	he never replied with a why but they were on the next list he sent through..... :O
Dec 09 17:15:53 <Namjies>	I've had some large blocks. I told them to see this with Nefario. They were added shortly and confirmed.
Dec 09 17:15:54 <gigavps>	and then i asked him to please explain why they only showed up when i asked him
Dec 09 17:16:09 <gigavps>	no reply
Dec 09 17:16:11 <Namjies>	Probably because he's indeed making list manually...
Dec 09 17:16:24 <gigavps>	and i asked him why the yaml format was messed up
Dec 09 17:16:26 <gigavps>	no reply
Dec 09 17:16:33 <Namjies>	I get no reply either but sending him a mail gets results. If you wait.
Dec 09 17:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005229 = 2.2595 BTC [-]
Dec 09 17:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5336 @ 0.00052285 = 2.7899 BTC [-]
Dec 09 17:16:49 <gigavps>	so, i am inferring that he is completely screwing this thing up
Dec 09 17:17:08 <Namjies>	namjies@hotmail.com || 18CoGAeLJzwG3iLkBj1vARYDWW7eC7qUQ1
Dec 09 17:19:08 <dub>	!ticker
Dec 09 17:19:09 <assbot>	Provide ticker.
Dec 09 17:19:14 <dub>	;;ticker
Dec 09 17:19:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37001, Best ask: 13.37002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.37001, 24 hour volume: 26830.29995526, 24 hour low: 13.02100, 24 hour high: 13.53000, 24 hour vwap: 13.22838
Dec 09 17:19:57 <dub>	next milestone 31.337
Dec 09 17:20:07 <JWU42>	so much so
Dec 09 17:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052297 = 2.2598 BTC [+]
Dec 09 17:20:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6179 @ 0.00052285 = 3.2307 BTC [-]
Dec 09 17:20:30 <dub>	actually I'd prefer 3.1337 :)
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Dec 09 17:20:49 <dub>	then 31337.101
Dec 09 17:21:17 <JWU42>	yeah - near term 3.1337 would help
Dec 09 17:21:25 <JWU42>	long term the latter
Dec 09 17:22:11 <JWU42>	http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth-10k.png
Dec 09 17:22:20 <JWU42>	bouncing back but still contraction
Dec 09 17:22:40 <gigavps>	wait a couple more week
Dec 09 17:22:42 <gigavps>	s
Dec 09 17:22:46 <dub>	lol
Dec 09 17:23:03 <JWU42>	yeah - the butthurt
Dec 09 17:23:04 <gigavps>	everyone in yurp will realized that they aren't covering power costs anymore
Dec 09 17:23:15 <dub>	I helped with that, GPUs are dark
Dec 09 17:23:30 <gigavps>	50btc.com's hash rate will drop another 1TH
Dec 09 17:23:33 <JWU42>	mine are still plugging away for now
Dec 09 17:24:02 <dub>	diff is heading down too by the looks
Dec 09 17:24:04 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Dec 09 17:24:07 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 211561 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 118 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 21 hours, 26 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3368694.89058966 | Estimated Percent Change: -2.04175424191
Dec 09 17:24:15 <dub>	;;bc,diffchange
Dec 09 17:24:31 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -2.04175424191 % based on data since last change | -10.0189764833 % based on data for last three days
Dec 09 17:24:46 <gigavps>	yep, we'll see another 10% over the next two weeks
Dec 09 17:25:54 <Ukto>	and then.. BAM asic
Dec 09 17:25:54 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 09 17:26:00 <Ukto>	(probably not..)
Dec 09 17:26:25 <JWU42>	MR SC - for just 24 hours - would solve all my issues
Dec 09 17:26:56 <gigavps>	if you get it first
Dec 09 17:27:10 <Ukto>	i am fairly sure they will releases the small units first
Dec 09 17:27:15 <Ukto>	let that ease the market in
Dec 09 17:27:16 <JWU42>	agreed
Dec 09 17:27:18 <Ukto>	and then the big boys
Dec 09 17:27:21 <JWU42>	but they said not
Dec 09 17:27:27 <gigavps>	you're probably rigt
Dec 09 17:27:31 <gigavps>	right
Dec 09 17:27:37 *	gigavps can't type
Dec 09 17:27:37 <JWU42>	or the last time I spoke to Sonny - back lord knows when
Dec 09 17:27:50 <JWU42>	before Inaba got involved
Dec 09 17:28:15 <JWU42>	was preaching that they would build inventory in all 3 producst (now 4)
Dec 09 17:29:01 <JWU42>	but who the F knows
Dec 09 17:31:24 <gigavps>	easy to talk
Dec 09 17:31:27 <gigavps>	hard to do
Dec 09 17:32:11 *	jcpham hugs gigavps
Dec 09 17:32:56 *	abracadabra snips a few of gigavps's ethernet cables
Dec 09 17:36:50 <gigavps>	damn, who let abracadabra in here
Dec 09 17:37:00 *	gigavps just wants his asics
Dec 09 17:37:05 <gigavps>	for christmas
Dec 09 17:37:31 <jcpham>	no asic for you
Dec 09 17:37:38 <jcpham>	march maybe
Dec 09 17:37:58 <abracadabra>	No ASICs for you! </asicnazi>
Dec 09 17:38:06 <abracadabra>	Next in line!
Dec 09 17:38:17 <jcpham>	back of the bus gigavps
Dec 09 17:38:33 <abracadabra>	isn't the back of the bus where all the cool kids sit?
Dec 09 17:38:45 <gigavps>	:)
Dec 09 17:39:07 *	abracadabra tells gigavps to sit in the front right behind the driver
Dec 09 17:39:59 <gigavps>	o well
Dec 09 17:41:15 <abracadabra>	btcland has been kind of boring lately
Dec 09 17:41:21 <abracadabra>	no ponzis
Dec 09 17:41:26 <abracadabra>	no asics
Dec 09 17:41:33 <abracadabra>	no conspiracy theories
Dec 09 17:41:39 <abracadabra>	meh
Dec 09 17:42:04 <jcpham>	abracadabra is pirate
Dec 09 17:45:14 <gigavps>	seems about right
Dec 09 17:45:49 <abracadabra>	damn
Dec 09 17:45:52 <abracadabra>	the secret is out
Dec 09 17:47:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052755 = 2.2795 BTC [+]
Dec 09 17:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21179 @ 0.00052772 = 11.1766 BTC [+]
Dec 09 17:50:14 <abracadabra>	anyone know who the chick in the avatar is? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=52741
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Dec 09 17:57:12 <jcpham>	that's me
Dec 09 17:57:23 <jcpham>	i'm actually mpoe-pr
Dec 09 17:59:25 <abracadabra>	lol
Dec 09 17:59:44 <abracadabra>	mirceau popescu is a chick?
Dec 09 17:59:54 <dub>	no its a chick he hires to do pr
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Dec 09 18:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00052336 = 9.1588 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 18:25:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3992 @ 0.00052301 = 2.0879 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 18:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.0033 = 11.88 BTC [-]
Dec 09 18:35:32 <dub>	banks are silly
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Dec 09 18:38:08 <dub>	all they need to do is give me a million dollars
Dec 09 18:38:37 <dub>	its not rocket science
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Dec 09 18:50:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 329 @ 0.00052301 = 0.1721 BTC [-]
Dec 09 18:50:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4706 @ 0.00052285 = 2.4605 BTC [-]
Dec 09 18:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15165 @ 0.00051941 = 7.8769 BTC [-]
Dec 09 18:54:24 <jurov>	abracadabra, usagi revealed she's actually Erin Pavlina, a psychic from Vegas
Dec 09 18:55:27 <jurov>	some 40yr old, with children
Dec 09 19:00:39 <jurov>	"She is passionate about awakening and empowering other lightworkers so that they too can create a positive ripple effect in the fabric of humanity."
Dec 09 19:00:58 <jurov>	fits mpoe-pr exactly
Dec 09 19:01:37 <dub>	wat
Dec 09 19:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051974 = 2.2458 BTC [+]
Dec 09 19:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1935 @ 0.00051941 = 1.0051 BTC [-]
Dec 09 19:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7044 @ 0.00051919 = 3.6572 BTC [-]
Dec 09 19:02:36 <dub>	doesnt look much liker tbh
Dec 09 19:02:42 <dub>	like her*
Dec 09 19:03:23 <jurov>	tell that to usagi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1386400#msg1386400
Dec 09 19:03:28 <dub>	can't really see MP going for the spirtual thing either
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Dec 09 19:05:18 <dub>	as always, its hard to fault usagi logic
Dec 09 19:06:11 <jurov>	since i knew about erin pavlina a bit before, it was most hilarious thing i encountered in a long time
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Dec 09 19:25:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052329 = 2.2611 BTC [+]
Dec 09 19:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00052336 = 8.6354 BTC [+]
Dec 09 19:25:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 979 @ 0.00052433 = 0.5133 BTC [+]
Dec 09 19:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 698 @ 0.00335111 = 2.3391 BTC [+]
Dec 09 19:28:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4002 @ 0.0034 = 13.6068 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 19:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.0005193 = 1.506 BTC [-]
Dec 09 19:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052406 = 2.2645 BTC [+]
Dec 09 19:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1379 @ 0.00052433 = 0.7231 BTC [+]
Dec 09 19:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052404 = 2.2644 BTC [-]
Dec 09 19:50:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8942 @ 0.00052433 = 4.6886 BTC [+]
Dec 09 19:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052772 = 2.2803 BTC [+]
Dec 09 19:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10716 @ 0.00052944 = 5.6735 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 20:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24785 @ 0.00052742 = 13.0721 BTC [-]
Dec 09 20:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3158 @ 0.00052742 = 1.6656 BTC [-]
Dec 09 20:42:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8760 @ 0.0005259 = 4.6069 BTC [-]
Dec 09 20:49:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3998 @ 0.00052944 = 2.1167 BTC [+]
Dec 09 20:50:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12340 @ 0.0005259 = 6.4896 BTC [-]
Dec 09 20:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00052418 = 6.3688 BTC [-]
Dec 09 20:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8660 @ 0.00052183 = 4.519 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 21:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052184 = 2.2549 BTC [+]
Dec 09 21:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3114 @ 0.00052183 = 1.625 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:01:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9154 @ 0.00052083 = 4.7677 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052106 = 2.2515 BTC [+]
Dec 09 21:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11979 @ 0.00052083 = 6.239 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:17:42 <smickles>	!ticker s.dic3e
Dec 09 21:17:43 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Dec 09 21:17:44 <smickles>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 09 21:17:45 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0033 / 0.00338925 / 0.0034 (437870 shares, 1,484.05 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00333963 / 0.0034 (1720207 shares, 5,744.87 BTC)
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Dec 09 21:32:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1421 @ 0.00052101 = 0.7404 BTC [+]
Dec 09 21:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1217 @ 0.00052083 = 0.6339 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.0005202 = 11.1323 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3762 @ 0.00051919 = 1.9532 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27827 @ 0.00051919 = 14.4475 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00051915 = 3.0111 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4773 @ 0.00051816 = 2.4732 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00052139 = 1.1471 BTC [+]
Dec 09 21:48:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00052139 = 1.4078 BTC [+]
Dec 09 21:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052239 = 2.2572 BTC [+]
Dec 09 21:48:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052254 = 2.2579 BTC [+]
Dec 09 21:48:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 558 @ 0.00052266 = 0.2916 BTC [+]
Dec 09 21:50:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051846 = 2.2403 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051821 = 2.2392 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7658 @ 0.00051816 = 3.9681 BTC [-]
Dec 09 21:52:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052234 = 2.257 BTC [+]
Dec 09 21:52:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14322 @ 0.00052266 = 7.4855 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 22:17:00 <smickles>	g 15
Dec 09 22:18:03 <dub>	you hit my battleship!
Dec 09 22:18:27 <noagendamarket>	lol
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Dec 09 22:24:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052192 = 2.2552 BTC [-]
Dec 09 22:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14679 @ 0.00052188 = 7.6607 BTC [-]
Dec 09 22:28:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1107 @ 0.00332632 = 3.6822 BTC [-]
Dec 09 22:28:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4093 @ 0.0034 = 13.9162 BTC [+]
Dec 09 22:32:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3428 @ 0.00052024 = 1.7834 BTC [-]
Dec 09 22:33:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052235 = 2.2571 BTC [+]
Dec 09 22:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14570 @ 0.00052266 = 7.6152 BTC [+]
Dec 09 22:34:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.0005232 = 6.8016 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 22:41:07 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/btc-is-scammed-about-as-much-as-usd/#comment-183
Dec 09 22:41:21 <smickles>	dub: nice
Dec 09 22:42:34 <dub>	heh, that wasnt me btw
Dec 09 22:44:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052628 = 2.2741 BTC [+]
Dec 09 22:44:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052631 = 2.2742 BTC [+]
Dec 09 22:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11408 @ 0.00052643 = 6.0055 BTC [+]
Dec 09 22:50:02 <pigeons>	smickles: your blog isn't working it just let me read the article without hassle or emailing you for credits
Dec 09 22:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00052643 = 11.9763 BTC [+]
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Dec 09 22:55:45 <smickles>	dub: i meant the battleship comment ;)
Dec 09 22:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	ahh how goes!
Dec 09 22:56:17 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: my comment on your post is my most viewed blog post
Dec 09 22:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Dec 09 22:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052338 = 2.2615 BTC [-]
Dec 09 22:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8679 @ 0.0005232 = 4.5409 BTC [-]
Dec 09 22:56:47 <mircea_popescu>	trilema is an old dragon
Dec 09 22:57:13 <smickles>	it got accused of blogspam too :)
Dec 09 22:57:26 <smickles>	and more of this http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/btc-is-scammed-about-as-much-as-usd/#comment-183
Dec 09 22:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052321 = 2.2608 BTC [+]
Dec 09 22:59:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2329 @ 0.0005232 = 1.2185 BTC [-]
Dec 09 22:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol blogspam ? caus hwy ?
Dec 09 23:01:37 <smickles>	i guess that they didn't understand I was highlighting something you said at the end of what many may consider a ;tldr
Dec 09 23:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	ya well. part of free market is no matter what happens there'll be someone to explain why it's wrong/dangerous/etc.
Dec 09 23:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	this isn't realyl a bad thing.
Dec 09 23:03:14 <pigeons>	http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4894376
Dec 09 23:03:20 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: also, this was funny http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14k1go/btc_is_scammed_about_as_much_as_usd/c7dvwy2
Dec 09 23:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	"It's really unfortunate that the link you referenced contained too many wrong understandings and misrepresentations. "
Dec 09 23:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Dec 09 23:04:29 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: even better ZT to D3: "You're a credible person,..."
Dec 09 23:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	smickles o, he's going to assume something stupid ? o noes! that hurts me SO BAD
Dec 09 23:04:38 <pigeons>	he isn't not lying
Dec 09 23:05:03 <mircea_popescu>	but anyways : i suspect some pretty big news coming out of mpex today.
Dec 09 23:05:18 <smickles>	:O
Dec 09 23:06:41 <pigeons>	nameterrific makes a good mpex listing, good move
Dec 09 23:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;google catfish pigeons
Dec 09 23:08:24 <gribble>	Catfish learning to hunt pigeons on land (VIDEO) | The Sideshow ...: <http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/catfish-learning-hunt-pigeons-land-video-231659764.html>; Catfish Hunt Pigeons: Fish Catch Birds On Land In Display Of ...: <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/08/catfish-hunt-pigeons-video-attacks-eats-on-land_n_2263802.html>; Putting the cat(fish) among the pigeons | (1 more message)
Dec 09 23:08:47 <pigeons>	yes, that is disturbing
Dec 09 23:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.23552546 = 235.5255 BTC [-]
Dec 09 23:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.18937934 = 189.3793 BTC [-]
Dec 09 23:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.29021761 = 290.2176 BTC [+]
Dec 09 23:14:09 <smickles>	https://www.facebook.com/mircea.popescu.714
Dec 09 23:14:20 <smickles>	MP likes Harry Potter :D
Dec 09 23:14:36 <pigeons>	mircea looks like jerry seinfeld
Dec 09 23:14:44 <smickles>	and is interested in converse shoes :o
Dec 09 23:14:49 <pigeons>	on his blog he looks like kramer
Dec 09 23:14:58 <mircea_popescu>	omg who is that dood
Dec 09 23:15:08 <smickles>	oh no, THIS is MP https://www.facebook.com/mircea.popescu.509
Dec 09 23:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	dude they really have 714 mp's on fb ?!
Dec 09 23:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	the spam on that thing is really getting out of hand
Dec 09 23:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think there actually exist 100 in the whole world.
Dec 09 23:15:51 <pigeons>	not a special fucking snowflake now
Dec 09 23:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/#comment-90895
Dec 09 23:16:23 <mircea_popescu>	meni is butthurted.
Dec 09 23:16:32 <smickles>	;;isdown encyclopediabitcoinica.com
Dec 09 23:16:33 <gribble>	Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.
Dec 09 23:16:38 <smickles>	err
Dec 09 23:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;issucky
Dec 09 23:16:52 <gribble>	Error: "issucky" is not a valid command.
Dec 09 23:18:38 <smickles>	hmm, this didn't work either http://blog.smickles.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DOJ.me-bug.png
Dec 09 23:20:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/X-Window-System.png omfg did X suck in the 90s
Dec 09 23:21:25 <smickles>	x still looks like that
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Dec 09 23:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	at least now there's alternatives.
Dec 09 23:22:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6023 @ 0.0005232 = 3.1512 BTC [-]
Dec 09 23:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12327 @ 0.00051816 = 6.3874 BTC [-]
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Dec 09 23:43:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00051822 = 1.166 BTC [+]
Dec 09 23:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2071 @ 0.00051822 = 1.0732 BTC [+]
Dec 09 23:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1042 @ 0.00051816 = 0.5399 BTC [-]
Dec 09 23:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00051803 = 9.5318 BTC [-]
Dec 09 23:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7437 @ 0.00051765 = 3.8498 BTC [-]
Dec 09 23:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9613 @ 0.00051765 = 4.9762 BTC [-]
Dec 09 23:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4187 @ 0.0005176 = 2.1672 BTC [-]
Dec 09 23:57:36 <sgornick>	Ok who is Biggest Fish player that paid using 1Hanna?   http://blockchain.info/tx/b2806ab9fb7294e792f2a42bd3aeb87d104339081174ee51f25bfa21fd84f236
Dec 09 23:57:49 <sgornick>	Ended up winning the monthly BitLotto too.
Dec 09 23:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00052466 = 1.9937 BTC [+]
Dec 10 00:16:09 <Namjies>	It's probably... well... Hanna...
Dec 10 00:16:24 <Namjies>	just like my address is 1Namjies
Dec 10 00:17:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 521 @ 0.00052466 = 0.2733 BTC [+]
Dec 10 00:17:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00052498 = 8.7672 BTC [+]
Dec 10 00:17:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00052528 = 2.889 BTC [+]
Dec 10 00:17:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00052643 = 2.4105 BTC [+]
Dec 10 00:26:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051763 = 2.2367 BTC [-]
Dec 10 00:26:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13613 @ 0.0005176 = 7.0461 BTC [-]
Dec 10 00:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10623 @ 0.0005173 = 5.4953 BTC [-]
Dec 10 00:38:12 <sgornick>	1Namjies: Thanks.  I guess I don't follow this channel close enough as the name didn't initially ring a bell.
Dec 10 00:42:45 <Namjies>	Well I haven't actually seen any Hanna. All I know is that address is not associated with any user of the otc.
Dec 10 00:44:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6836 @ 0.0005173 = 3.5363 BTC [-]
Dec 10 00:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.0005172 = 7.4477 BTC [-]
Dec 10 00:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13964 @ 0.00051713 = 7.2212 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 01:11:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12660 @ 0.00051848 = 6.564 BTC [+]
Dec 10 01:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6886 @ 0.00051713 = 3.561 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8680 @ 0.00051669 = 4.4849 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1680 @ 0.00051669 = 0.868 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00051648 = 4.0802 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00051644 = 3.8217 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2615 @ 0.00051603 = 1.3494 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:22:48 <dub>	just went to my first auction
Dec 10 01:23:18 <dub>	dude was a slippery son of a gun
Dec 10 01:24:20 <dub>	like literally the auctioneer was sweating so much im surprised he didnt slip over
Dec 10 01:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20085 @ 0.00051603 = 10.3645 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:50:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9615 @ 0.00051599 = 4.9612 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3685 @ 0.00051599 = 1.9014 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:55:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00051591 = 4.798 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8501 @ 0.00051585 = 4.3852 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1649 @ 0.00051585 = 0.8506 BTC [-]
Dec 10 01:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4151 @ 0.00051572 = 2.1408 BTC [-]
Dec 10 02:06:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12093 @ 0.00051572 = 6.2366 BTC [-]
Dec 10 02:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10016 @ 0.00051565 = 5.1648 BTC [-]
Dec 10 02:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18234 @ 0.00051565 = 9.4024 BTC [-]
Dec 10 02:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3066 @ 0.00051555 = 1.5807 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 02:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051792 = 2.2379 BTC [+]
Dec 10 02:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3801 @ 0.00051799 = 1.9689 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 02:23:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00051798 = 2.0201 BTC [-]
Dec 10 02:31:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051563 = 2.228 BTC [-]
Dec 10 02:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21679 @ 0.00051555 = 11.1766 BTC [-]
Dec 10 02:36:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6308 @ 0.00051555 = 3.2521 BTC [-]
Dec 10 02:36:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11142 @ 0.00051535 = 5.742 BTC [-]
Dec 10 02:41:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 421 @ 0.00051798 = 0.2181 BTC [+]
Dec 10 02:41:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18679 @ 0.00051799 = 9.6755 BTC [+]
Dec 10 03:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051556 = 2.2277 BTC [-]
Dec 10 03:04:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20808 @ 0.00051535 = 10.7234 BTC [-]
Dec 10 03:04:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14114 @ 0.00051523 = 7.272 BTC [-]
Dec 10 03:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00051523 = 3.9157 BTC [-]
Dec 10 03:10:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6838 @ 0.00051523 = 3.5231 BTC [-]
Dec 10 03:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27103 @ 0.00051486 = 13.9543 BTC [-]
Dec 10 03:18:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6447 @ 0.00051486 = 3.3193 BTC [-]
Dec 10 03:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5053 @ 0.00051476 = 2.6011 BTC [-]
Dec 10 03:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17069 @ 0.00051476 = 8.7864 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 03:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1828 @ 0.00051476 = 0.941 BTC [-]
Dec 10 03:28:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00051466 = 11.9401 BTC [-]
Dec 10 03:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 799 @ 0.00051459 = 0.4112 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 03:47:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.0005167 = 2.0926 BTC [+]
Dec 10 03:56:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19183 @ 0.00051459 = 9.8714 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 04:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 271 @ 0.0005167 = 0.14 BTC [+]
Dec 10 04:00:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7893 @ 0.00051702 = 4.0808 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 04:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051488 = 2.2248 BTC [-]
Dec 10 04:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7468 @ 0.00051459 = 3.843 BTC [-]
Dec 10 04:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00051452 = 2.9585 BTC [-]
Dec 10 04:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00051407 = 2.3647 BTC [-]
Dec 10 04:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16445 @ 0.00051405 = 8.4536 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 04:24:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7797 @ 0.00051405 = 4.008 BTC [-]
Dec 10 04:24:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18937 @ 0.0005132 = 9.7185 BTC [-]
Dec 10 04:32:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.0005147 = 1.7757 BTC [+]
Dec 10 04:32:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.0005132 = 8.4935 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 04:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6367 @ 0.0005132 = 3.2675 BTC [-]
Dec 10 04:48:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 833 @ 0.00051284 = 0.4272 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 05:03:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00051284 = 8.7952 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 05:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051611 = 2.2301 BTC [+]
Dec 10 05:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.00051631 = 5.746 BTC [+]
Dec 10 05:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051615 = 2.2303 BTC [-]
Dec 10 05:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4408 @ 0.00051631 = 2.2759 BTC [+]
Dec 10 05:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051612 = 2.2302 BTC [-]
Dec 10 05:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10263 @ 0.00051631 = 5.2989 BTC [+]
Dec 10 05:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22466 @ 0.00051702 = 11.6154 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 05:30:35 <markedathome>	'allo peeps
Dec 10 05:31:24 <markedathome>	been away for a while (shortly before the bitcoinica collapse) ... know about the glbse drama, what else has been happening?
Dec 10 05:33:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/
Dec 10 05:33:36 <mircea_popescu>	should bring you up to speed.
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Dec 10 05:34:21 <markedathome>	reading... thanks
Dec 10 05:38:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051302 = 2.2168 BTC [-]
Dec 10 05:38:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37343 @ 0.00051284 = 19.151 BTC [-]
Dec 10 05:38:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13386 @ 0.00051276 = 6.8638 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 06:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051337 = 2.2183 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14529 @ 0.00051339 = 7.459 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 06:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 843 @ 0.00051339 = 0.4328 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14007 @ 0.00051702 = 7.2419 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:24:01 <markedathome>	well... that doesn't look good.
Dec 10 06:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	ok, pretty big news over here : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/
Dec 10 06:28:38 <mircea_popescu>	smickles jurov ^
Dec 10 06:29:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051302 = 2.2168 BTC [-]
Dec 10 06:29:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11264 @ 0.00051276 = 5.7757 BTC [-]
Dec 10 06:29:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4065 @ 0.0005127 = 2.0841 BTC [-]
Dec 10 06:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.EWTI] 1000 @ 0.066794 = 66.794 BTC
Dec 10 06:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 5 @ 0.13220833 = 0.661 BTC
Dec 10 06:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 100 @ 0.13220833 = 13.2208 BTC
Dec 10 06:34:58 <markedathome>	oh noes, don't tell me you've taken up dragon's tale. I saw someone get many btc loans to get out of the hole they got into on that
Dec 10 06:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome i made like 100 btc.
Dec 10 06:36:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00051694 = 0.853 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:36:26 <markedathome>	better return than satoshidice? or more variable in luck?
Dec 10 06:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	i never played much satoshidice
Dec 10 06:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	and i absolutely never won.
Dec 10 06:38:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2671 @ 0.00051694 = 1.3807 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14434 @ 0.00051702 = 7.4627 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7570 @ 0.00051799 = 3.9212 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00051925 = 22.0681 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00052016 = 2.9129 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00052043 = 8.483 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13218 @ 0.00052054 = 6.8805 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00052057 = 14.0033 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00052102 = 8.5708 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2778 @ 0.00052586 = 1.4608 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6663 @ 0.00052643 = 3.5076 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25952 @ 0.00052697 = 13.6759 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00052786 = 12.3255 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8486 @ 0.00052944 = 4.4928 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9326 @ 0.00052959 = 4.939 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00052962 = 6.276 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00053012 = 15.3205 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00053025 = 5.0374 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00053079 = 7.5638 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27330 @ 0.00053116 = 14.5166 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28822 @ 0.00053159 = 15.3215 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00053192 = 8.3511 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47200 @ 0.00053226 = 25.1227 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:38:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1971 @ 0.00053253 = 1.0496 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00053262 = 5.992 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7089 @ 0.00053273 = 3.7765 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00053275 = 15.9825 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15603 @ 0.00053321 = 8.3197 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39377 @ 0.00053329 = 20.9994 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00053339 = 6.5607 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36032 @ 0.00053343 = 19.2205 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00053348 = 3.761 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	o you likey futures ? cool!
Dec 10 06:39:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00053358 = 5.4959 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00053371 = 11.6349 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25315 @ 0.00053381 = 13.5134 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00053381 = 2.0018 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00053384 = 11.958 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00053384 = 13.7731 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38000 @ 0.00053391 = 20.2886 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00053395 = 3.2037 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47873 @ 0.00053395 = 25.5618 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30350 @ 0.00053398 = 16.2063 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1990 @ 0.00053409 = 1.0628 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155 @ 0.00053409 = 0.0828 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:39:57 <markedathome>	is that a bot?
Dec 10 06:40:39 <markedathome>	that which is trading, not the posting
Dec 10 06:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00052861 = 3.8324 BTC [-]
Dec 10 06:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00052861 = 4.6782 BTC [-]
Dec 10 06:55:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15855 @ 0.00053409 = 8.468 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00053426 = 15.3333 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.00053427 = 2.8829 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00053433 = 8.2287 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4149 @ 0.00053436 = 2.2171 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34350 @ 0.00053445 = 18.3584 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00053454 = 4.1961 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00053454 = 16.838 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00053477 = 10.9093 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome possibly
Dec 10 06:55:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.0005349 = 14.9505 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00053506 = 6.608 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.0005352 = 10.0082 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:55:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00053522 = 4.5761 BTC [+]
Dec 10 06:57:02 <markedathome>	just found coinbr.... anyone want to supply me with a referral code?
Dec 10 06:58:31 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't know you needed referral codes for coinbr
Dec 10 06:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	ping jurov for one
Dec 10 06:59:24 <markedathome>	you don't, anyone who refers gets some portion of that new users fees as a referral bonus.
Dec 10 07:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	nice
Dec 10 07:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00052592 = 10.9654 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 07:14:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00053522 = 3.3184 BTC [+]
Dec 10 07:14:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00053535 = 1.499 BTC [+]
Dec 10 07:19:23 <jurov>	hi markedathome, try lurking here a bit, there are some users around
Dec 10 07:24:09 <jurov>	asa1024, FabianB_ , rdponticelli (there are more I forgot, sorry... but you're my cherished betatesters).. now let's see who'll be first :)
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Dec 10 07:32:02 <Cylta>	what the current price for mpex accounts?
Dec 10 07:32:14 <sgnb>	30 IIRC
Dec 10 07:32:14 <kakobrekla>	25btc
Dec 10 07:32:21 <Cylta>	thank you
Dec 10 07:32:48 <sgnb>	kakobrekla: where do you get that from?
Dec 10 07:33:27 <kakobrekla>	use a referral souch as 	27AF75321F2489E8
Dec 10 07:33:28 <kakobrekla>	and its 25
Dec 10 07:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	hehe yeah, if you use an already reg'd fingerprint each gets 5 btc
Dec 10 07:34:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4155 @ 0.00053534 = 2.2243 BTC [-]
Dec 10 07:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23945 @ 0.00053535 = 12.819 BTC [+]
Dec 10 07:35:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INDQ] 200 @ 0.20633112 = 41.2662 BTC
Dec 10 07:40:15 <kakobrekla>	x what
Dec 10 07:45:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3088 @ 0.00053535 = 1.6532 BTC [+]
Dec 10 07:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12462 @ 0.00053539 = 6.672 BTC [+]
Dec 10 07:47:33 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/futures-on-mpex/
Dec 10 07:49:33 <kakobrekla>	my traders say 2% is high
Dec 10 07:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	possibly so.
Dec 10 07:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	i plan to adjust both the collateral % and the fee
Dec 10 07:52:52 <mircea_popescu>	also marketmakers aren't fee'd.
Dec 10 07:57:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10481 @ 0.00053531 = 5.6106 BTC [-]
Dec 10 07:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00052725 = 7.1706 BTC [-]
Dec 10 07:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00052592 = 2.0248 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 08:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3819 @ 0.00051885 = 1.9815 BTC [-]
Dec 10 08:07:21 <FabianB_>	jurov: ?
Dec 10 08:07:58 <FabianB_>	ah
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Dec 10 08:10:34 <rdponticelli>	markedathome: Try https://coinbr.com/ref?c=e4XGKaHD77
Dec 10 08:11:20 <markedathome>	thanks. will sign up shortly, but probably not put that much through for a couple of weeks or so.
Dec 10 08:11:58 <markedathome>	bnk
Dec 10 08:12:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5688 @ 0.00053539 = 3.0453 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00053542 = 12.1005 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00053555 = 6.373 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00053561 = 2.5977 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9928 @ 0.00053562 = 5.3176 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24759 @ 0.00053562 = 13.2614 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30095 @ 0.00053576 = 16.1237 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00053582 = 4.3134 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00053593 = 5.8416 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00053594 = 17.0965 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32140 @ 0.00053598 = 17.2264 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7190 @ 0.00053601 = 3.8539 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:13:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8660 @ 0.00053601 = 4.6418 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:13:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00053604 = 5.5748 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 264 @ 0.00053607 = 0.1415 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 08:23:22 <sgnb>	mircea_popescu: oh... I thought only the sponsor would get 5 BTC
Dec 10 08:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	no, both.
Dec 10 08:23:39 <sgnb>	I would have looked for one ;-)
Dec 10 08:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#13
Dec 10 08:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	"If you already have an account and someone mentions your keyid when they sign up for a new account each of you will be credited 5 BTC."
Dec 10 08:23:57 <sgnb>	I know, I've just read it again
Dec 10 08:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Dec 10 08:24:05 <sgnb>	I missed the "each of you"
Dec 10 08:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	it's supposed to work as a simple way for 3rd party developers to finance themselves.
Dec 10 08:24:58 <mircea_popescu>	make X service, have a user sign-up a day, suddenly you're making 150 btc a month.
Dec 10 08:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11686 @ 0.00053607 = 6.2645 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6114 @ 0.00053627 = 3.2788 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MSIG] 50 @ 0.25711156 = 12.8556 BTC
Dec 10 08:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 150 @ 0.13220833 = 19.8312 BTC
Dec 10 08:42:59 <jurov>	fuck, looks like bitvps screwed my connection again
Dec 10 08:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005296 = 2.2884 BTC [-]
Dec 10 08:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5117 @ 0.00052934 = 2.7086 BTC [-]
Dec 10 08:48:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053128 = 2.2957 BTC [+]
Dec 10 08:48:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5940 @ 0.00053135 = 3.1562 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 08:50:27 <jurov>	has anyone a way to contact rg directly? i filed a ticket, but don't want to wait 12hrs again
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Dec 10 08:52:30 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130074.0
Dec 10 08:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052961 = 2.2884 BTC [-]
Dec 10 08:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27879 @ 0.00052934 = 14.7575 BTC [-]
Dec 10 09:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00053082 = 2.9726 BTC [+]
Dec 10 09:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053127 = 2.2956 BTC [+]
Dec 10 09:04:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3660 @ 0.00053135 = 1.9447 BTC [+]
Dec 10 09:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3619 @ 0.00053627 = 1.9408 BTC [+]
Dec 10 09:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052941 = 2.2876 BTC [-]
Dec 10 09:13:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4054 @ 0.00052934 = 2.1459 BTC [-]
Dec 10 09:13:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8961 @ 0.0005291 = 4.7413 BTC [-]
Dec 10 09:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00052862 = 2.2202 BTC [-]
Dec 10 09:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6264 @ 0.00052678 = 3.2997 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 09:24:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053178 = 2.2978 BTC [+]
Dec 10 09:24:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.0005315 = 9.1418 BTC [-]
Dec 10 09:24:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1056 @ 0.00052678 = 0.5563 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 09:28:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2653 @ 0.00052678 = 1.3975 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 09:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00052541 = 11.3489 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 09:39:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052192 = 2.2552 BTC [-]
Dec 10 09:39:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24053 @ 0.00052191 = 12.5535 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 09:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052525 = 2.2696 BTC [+]
Dec 10 09:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00052541 = 2.7736 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 09:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052197 = 2.2554 BTC [-]
Dec 10 09:47:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7647 @ 0.00052191 = 3.991 BTC [-]
Dec 10 09:47:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9632 @ 0.00051331 = 4.9442 BTC [-]
Dec 10 09:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12988 @ 0.00051331 = 6.6669 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 09:54:40 <jurov>	coinbr.com finally back online, without any word from james or anyone
Dec 10 09:55:00 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130082.0
Dec 10 09:55:03 <kakobrekla>	hehe
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Dec 10 09:56:00 <jurov>	ooohhh
Dec 10 09:56:54 <jurov>	*digs quickly to db to add'em all to coinbr*
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Dec 10 10:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5580 @ 0.00051331 = 2.8643 BTC [-]
Dec 10 10:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6285 @ 0.0005127 = 3.2223 BTC [-]
Dec 10 10:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2585 @ 0.0005125 = 1.3248 BTC [-]
Dec 10 10:10:22 <smickles>	ha!, i need to reset my cookie, but i can see that title mp
Dec 10 10:17:32 <jurov>	mircea or anyone, these futures can be manually exercised like options?
Dec 10 10:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6715 @ 0.0005125 = 3.4414 BTC [-]
Dec 10 10:19:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 435 @ 0.0005124 = 0.2229 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 10:37:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4365 @ 0.0005124 = 2.2366 BTC [-]
Dec 10 10:37:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8777 @ 0.0005119 = 4.4929 BTC [-]
Dec 10 10:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052531 = 2.2699 BTC [+]
Dec 10 10:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118 @ 0.00052541 = 0.062 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 10:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9251 @ 0.00053054 = 4.908 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 10:57:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4749 @ 0.00052231 = 2.4805 BTC [-]
Dec 10 10:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053599 = 2.316 BTC [+]
Dec 10 10:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13189 @ 0.00053627 = 7.0729 BTC [+]
Dec 10 10:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00053634 = 4.5053 BTC [+]
Dec 10 10:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2041 @ 0.00053639 = 1.0948 BTC [+]
Dec 10 11:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005355 = 2.3139 BTC [-]
Dec 10 11:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10979 @ 0.00053533 = 5.8774 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 11:10:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053622 = 2.317 BTC [+]
Dec 10 11:10:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4294 @ 0.00053639 = 2.3033 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 11:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053632 = 2.3174 BTC [-]
Dec 10 11:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17829 @ 0.00053639 = 9.5633 BTC [+]
Dec 10 11:30:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053552 = 2.314 BTC [-]
Dec 10 11:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.00053533 = 1.9159 BTC [-]
Dec 10 11:31:59 <jurov>	also thrown to http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14lye7/trading_of_indexesprecious_metalscommodities/
Dec 10 11:32:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053566 = 2.3146 BTC [+]
Dec 10 11:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12079 @ 0.00053533 = 6.4663 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 11:45:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6163 @ 0.00053533 = 3.2992 BTC [-]
Dec 10 11:45:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8387 @ 0.00053154 = 4.458 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 12:08:54 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97755.msg1075018#msg1075018 << this is great
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Dec 10 12:13:16 <markedathome>	so i have to ask, what is with the cherry lorry?
Dec 10 12:16:28 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome some idiot kept bringing nonsensical/broken examples in a thread discussing patrick harnett
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Dec 10 12:17:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9849 @ 0.0005357 = 5.2761 BTC [+]
Dec 10 12:17:33 <markedathome>	the one where mpoe-pr was calling for the scamtag? i've just started to skim the thread on bitcointalk
Dec 10 12:18:14 <jcpham>	still needs a muzzel
Dec 10 12:18:51 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Dec 10 12:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham you need to learn how to spell that one day lol
Dec 10 12:19:24 <jcpham>	;;google muzzle
Dec 10 12:19:25 <gribble>	Muzzle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle>; Petco Nylon & Mesh Dog Muzzle at PETCO: <http://www.petco.com/product/109945/Petco-Nylon-And-Mesh-Dog-Muzzle.aspx>; muzzle - definition of muzzle by the Free Online Dictionary ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/muzzle>
Dec 10 12:19:39 <jcpham>	my fingers are lzy
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Dec 10 12:19:53 <jcpham>	keyboardism is sometimes fail
Dec 10 12:20:02 <jcpham>	get off my cock mircea_popescu
Dec 10 12:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	lalala
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Dec 10 12:23:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10763 @ 0.00053154 = 5.721 BTC [-]
Dec 10 12:23:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 437 @ 0.00052796 = 0.2307 BTC [-]
Dec 10 12:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.23833615 = 238.3362 BTC [+]
Dec 10 12:25:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.29381295 = 293.813 BTC [+]
Dec 10 12:25:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.19133839 = 191.3384 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 12:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6845 @ 0.0005357 = 3.6669 BTC [+]
Dec 10 12:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00053639 = 6.7317 BTC [+]
Dec 10 12:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86 @ 0.00053639 = 0.0461 BTC [+]
Dec 10 12:28:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1869 @ 0.00053645 = 1.0026 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 12:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053624 = 2.3171 BTC [-]
Dec 10 12:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3231 @ 0.00053645 = 1.7333 BTC [+]
Dec 10 12:33:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8461 @ 0.00053671 = 4.5411 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 12:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 290 @ 0.12538418 = 36.3614 BTC [-]
Dec 10 12:52:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IEDG] 50 @ 0.07767461 = 3.8837 BTC
Dec 10 12:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INDQ] 50 @ 0.20633112 = 10.3166 BTC
Dec 10 12:52:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INKG] 50 @ 0.07407914 = 3.704 BTC
Dec 10 12:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ISP5] 50 @ 0.10896071 = 5.448 BTC
Dec 10 13:01:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053642 = 2.3179 BTC [-]
Dec 10 13:01:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.00053671 = 2.0282 BTC [+]
Dec 10 13:02:35 <mod6>	Cool, the Futures Contracts are up on mpex!
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Dec 10 13:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 :
Dec 10 13:04:45 <mircea_popescu>	D
Dec 10 13:06:11 <kakobrekla>	i have a feeling some people are really paid to troll on the forums
Dec 10 13:06:13 <kakobrekla>	excluding inaba
Dec 10 13:06:18 <mod6>	I gotta add the MKFUT to bitotter, that shouldn't be hard.
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Dec 10 13:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052798 = 2.2814 BTC [-]
Dec 10 13:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21029 @ 0.00052796 = 11.1025 BTC [-]
Dec 10 13:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> excluding inaba << priceless.
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Dec 10 13:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 shouldn't be too hard if you have mkopt
Dec 10 13:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053599 = 2.316 BTC [+]
Dec 10 13:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00053626 = 2.2523 BTC [+]
Dec 10 13:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1260 @ 0.00053671 = 0.6763 BTC [+]
Dec 10 13:19:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00053683 = 5.1804 BTC [+]
Dec 10 13:19:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13194 @ 0.00053708 = 7.0862 BTC [+]
Dec 10 13:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	"It's been a long time and while I realize there is a huge demand for these units, I no longer wish to purchase them due to what amounts to an act of god regarding my financial position. So I will make the following request, sil vous plais;"
Dec 10 13:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	usagi nao speaks french too.
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Dec 10 13:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17156 @ 0.00053708 = 9.2141 BTC [+]
Dec 10 13:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6344 @ 0.00053708 = 3.4072 BTC [+]
Dec 10 13:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053192 = 2.2984 BTC [-]
Dec 10 13:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18979 @ 0.00053185 = 10.094 BTC [-]
Dec 10 13:35:48 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: yeah, just doing a bit of copy/replace :)
Dec 10 13:36:14 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 10 13:36:44 *	Ukto copies and pastes mod6
Dec 10 13:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	gets mob9
Dec 10 13:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	Wop6
Dec 10 13:38:24 *	jurov is now known as mod69
Dec 10 13:38:43 *	mircea_popescu is now known as dom_perign96
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Dec 10 13:39:01 <dom_perign96>	*pop*
Dec 10 13:39:05 *	dom_perign96 is now known as mircea_popescu
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Dec 10 13:39:42 <JWU_42>	mircea_popescu: what is usagi up to now?
Dec 10 13:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110122.msg1376330#msg1376330
Dec 10 13:41:41 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto were'nt you doing weex ?!
Dec 10 13:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	or am i confused
Dec 10 13:42:33 <mod6>	haha, mod69
Dec 10 13:42:51 <mod6>	dom_perign96
Dec 10 13:43:42 <mod6>	anyway, getting that part in there was easy.  i wish i didn't have any other jobs :(
Dec 10 13:44:00 <Ukto>	confused
Dec 10 13:44:04 <Ukto>	what does that thread have to do with weexchange?
Dec 10 13:44:39 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto nothing to do with weex.
Dec 10 13:44:49 <Ukto>	and yes
Dec 10 13:44:51 <Ukto>	WeExchange is mine
Dec 10 13:44:54 <mircea_popescu>	but, i meanwhile remember it was great's. you two working together ?!
Dec 10 13:44:55 <Ukto>	why?
Dec 10 13:45:00 <Ukto>	yes
Dec 10 13:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	Graet* ah i see
Dec 10 13:45:05 <Ukto>	Graet is the Aussie director
Dec 10 13:45:11 <Ukto>	which allows us to handle AUD
Dec 10 13:45:17 <Ukto>	I handle USD and CAD
Dec 10 13:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Dec 10 13:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Dec 10 13:45:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005321 = 2.2992 BTC [+]
Dec 10 13:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2286 @ 0.00053185 = 1.2158 BTC [-]
Dec 10 13:45:57 <Ukto>	its one of the reasons why it appears we are the last exchange to natively handle AUD, you need an AU director
Dec 10 13:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121383.0 you in ?
Dec 10 13:46:15 <dub>	act of god lol
Dec 10 13:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	act of milk.
Dec 10 13:47:11 <dub>	god made me retarded so I ripped you off
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Dec 10 13:51:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053214 = 2.2994 BTC [+]
Dec 10 13:51:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2435 @ 0.00053185 = 1.2951 BTC [-]
Dec 10 13:51:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3044 @ 0.00052796 = 1.6071 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 13:52:53 <dub>	what was the name of that race horse on glbse?
Dec 10 13:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	misty something ?
Dec 10 13:54:35 <dub>	satoshis daemon?
Dec 10 13:56:08 <dub>	yeah that was it
Dec 10 13:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	a rght you are
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Dec 10 14:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MPTG] 1 @ 0.12516851 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INDQ] 1 @ 0.20633112 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INKG] 1 @ 0.07407914 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ISP5] 1 @ 0.10896071 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.EWTI] 1 @ 0.06666667 BTC [-]
Dec 10 14:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ENGG] 1 @ 0.27682136 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.EHOG] 1 @ 0.22636576 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ACOG] 1 @ 0.05710061 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ASBG] 1 @ 0.11396016 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.AWHG] 1 @ 0.0670108 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ACCA] 1 @ 0.18675666 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ALCG] 1 @ 0.10096628 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 1 @ 0.13219995 BTC [-]
Dec 10 14:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MSIG] 1 @ 0.25711156 BTC
Dec 10 14:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IEDG] 1 @ 0.07767461 BTC
Dec 10 14:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00052796 = 2.9038 BTC [-]
Dec 10 14:06:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9740 @ 0.00052796 = 5.1423 BTC [-]
Dec 10 14:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00052574 = 1.4458 BTC [-]
Dec 10 14:12:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10187 @ 0.00052302 = 5.328 BTC [-]
Dec 10 14:12:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9663 @ 0.00052001 = 5.0249 BTC [-]
Dec 10 14:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 18 @ 0.13219995 = 2.3796 BTC [-]
Dec 10 14:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13510 @ 0.00052377 = 7.0761 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28315 @ 0.00053193 = 15.0616 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19256 @ 0.00053708 = 10.342 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00053711 = 3.1152 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00053725 = 13.3775 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00053731 = 5.3731 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57250 @ 0.00053732 = 30.7616 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00053738 = 6.2873 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2588 @ 0.00053743 = 1.3909 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.0005375 = 10.4813 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00053774 = 14.3039 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00053787 = 3.0121 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48742 @ 0.00053804 = 26.2251 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00053824 = 2.8527 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00053831 = 8.0477 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6405 @ 0.00053839 = 3.4484 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14702 @ 0.00053847 = 7.9166 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00053877 = 4.1485 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7182 @ 0.00053893 = 3.8706 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 14:27:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053871 = 2.3278 BTC [-]
Dec 10 14:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053873 = 2.3279 BTC [+]
Dec 10 14:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15858 @ 0.00053893 = 8.5464 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 14:45:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053535 = 2.3132 BTC [-]
Dec 10 14:45:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26479 @ 0.00053501 = 14.1665 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 15:15:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053516 = 2.3124 BTC [+]
Dec 10 15:15:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6410 @ 0.00053501 = 3.4294 BTC [-]
Dec 10 15:18:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31850 @ 0.000535 = 17.0398 BTC [-]
Dec 10 15:28:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00053882 = 4.3106 BTC [+]
Dec 10 15:28:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053883 = 2.3283 BTC [+]
Dec 10 15:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 510 @ 0.00053893 = 0.2749 BTC [+]
Dec 10 15:28:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18 @ 0.000539 = 0.0097 BTC [+]
Dec 10 15:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053883 = 2.3283 BTC [-]
Dec 10 15:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 379 @ 0.000539 = 0.2043 BTC [+]
Dec 10 15:34:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053898 = 2.3289 BTC [-]
Dec 10 15:34:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13939 @ 0.000539 = 7.5131 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 15:35:17 <kakobreklaaa>	ciuciu: And to paraphrase Mircea and his friends, it is OK to look at porn, even to make it as you both do.
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Dec 10 15:35:24 <kakobreklaaa>	and who is he, the holy pope?
Dec 10 15:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	so weird this porn thing.
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Dec 10 15:37:52 <kakobreklaaa>	im kinda dissapointed you left mnw on that list
Dec 10 15:37:52 <kakobreklaaa>	of yours
Dec 10 15:37:58 <kakobreklaaa>	even with the tiny sub comment
Dec 10 15:38:13 <kakobreklaaa>	its like
Dec 10 15:38:13 <kakobreklaaa>	if you have him
Dec 10 15:38:17 <kakobreklaaa>	you should add yourself!
Dec 10 15:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	myself ?! whar did i do!
Dec 10 15:38:36 <kakobreklaaa>	drama.
Dec 10 15:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	i did no drama, i merely used the drama already there
Dec 10 15:39:05 <kakobreklaaa>	there was plenty of it and still is bout mpex
Dec 10 15:39:36 <kakobreklaaa>	even if noone lost any coins
Dec 10 15:39:36 <kakobreklaaa>	just like with MNW
Dec 10 15:39:36 <kakobreklaaa>	yeah MNW is simmilar, pirate drama abuser
Dec 10 15:39:52 <kakobreklaaa>	you cannot write 10k coins lost or whatever
Dec 10 15:40:09 <kakobreklaaa>	just like youd write 900 lost to giga on mpex
Dec 10 15:40:18 <kakobreklaaa>	or whatever
Dec 10 15:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	more like... 200ish i think
Dec 10 15:40:53 <kakobreklaaa>	im not trying to dunk you here just mnw does not belong there
Dec 10 15:41:23 <kakobreklaaa>	well 200
Dec 10 15:41:30 <kakobreklaaa>	mnw scammed for less than 200
Dec 10 15:41:57 <kakobreklaaa>	its like
Dec 10 15:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	look, why can;t i mention mnw if i want to!
Dec 10 15:43:34 <kakobreklaaa>	meh
Dec 10 15:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	i passed over bruce wagner!
Dec 10 15:44:39 <kakobreklaaa>	just making bitcoinland looking worse than it already it and to a newb who ready that post it will look like mnw got away with 10k or whatever
Dec 10 15:44:58 <kakobreklaaa>	fucking typos
Dec 10 15:45:17 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, the past does look kinda wtfbleak
Dec 10 15:45:22 <mircea_popescu>	but we survived so far...
Dec 10 15:45:41 <jcpham>	link me to the newest drama
Dec 10 15:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	we're all out ;/
Dec 10 15:46:21 <mircea_popescu>	awaiting fresh supply.
Dec 10 15:47:06 <kakobreklaaa>	need more scam
Dec 10 15:47:10 <kakobreklaaa>	er milk.
Dec 10 15:47:50 <kakobreklaaa>	/invite usagi #bitcoin-assets
Dec 10 15:48:03 <jcpham>	ha
Dec 10 15:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://blog.bitinstant.com/blog/2012/12/10/the-controversy-of-bankhood.html
Dec 10 15:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	here's some
Dec 10 15:48:08 <mircea_popescu>	attempt anyway
Dec 10 15:48:12 <jcpham>	i read that one already
Dec 10 15:48:25 <kakobreklaaa>	tldr
Dec 10 15:48:45 <jcpham>	http://www.mcx.com/
Dec 10 15:48:52 <jcpham>	bitcoin-killer
Dec 10 15:50:51 <kakobreklaaa>	MCX’s solution may not be on the market yet, but once it is, it will quickly be accepted at a broad array of retailers processing more than $1 trillion in payments annually. No other solution can say that.
Dec 10 15:50:51 <kakobreklaaa>	rofl
Dec 10 15:51:08 <mircea_popescu>	the scroll  bit rules
Dec 10 15:51:22 <kakobreklaaa>	this is almost like reading bfl propaganda
Dec 10 15:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	i like the participating merchants list
Dec 10 15:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	"Here's yet another sign that bitcoin is a legit currency: A new bank for bitcoin is up and running at Bitcoin-Central.net."
Dec 10 15:53:39 <mircea_popescu>	dude vice is fucking retarded.
Dec 10 15:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	where do all these veggies come from ?
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Dec 10 16:05:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29088 @ 0.00053819 = 15.6549 BTC [-]
Dec 10 16:09:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2497 @ 0.000539 = 1.3459 BTC [+]
Dec 10 16:14:58 <Ukto>	does deadterra come on irc?
Dec 10 16:15:02 <Ukto>	i swear ive seen the nick here before
Dec 10 16:15:15 <kakobreklaaa>	;;seen deadterra
Dec 10 16:15:15 <gribble>	deadterra was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 51 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <DeaDTerra> <dub>: your kidding me right... since when to I send links to viruses...
Dec 10 16:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	why is your name ukyo ?!
Dec 10 16:15:25 <Ukto>	irc failed over to alt nick
Dec 10 16:15:26 <Ukto>	long ago
Dec 10 16:15:30 <Ukto>	someone else regd my name
Dec 10 16:15:37 <Ukto>	by the time i got ukyo registerd
Dec 10 16:15:43 <Ukto>	everyone knew ukto
Dec 10 16:15:56 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha quiye the stoyy
Dec 10 16:16:06 <Ukto>	i am considering changing irc
Dec 10 16:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.0 ukto got 2fa going'
Dec 10 16:17:06 <Ukto>	BitFunder posted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.0  any supportive / positive comments welcome! :)
Dec 10 16:17:15 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 10 16:17:19 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: on all my sites
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Dec 10 16:17:58 <jurov>	i'm halfway there with 2fa
Dec 10 16:18:22 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i got girls workin' fo me.
Dec 10 16:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	in da buff.
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Dec 10 16:18:38 <mircea_popescu>	jurov so 1fa ? :D
Dec 10 16:18:49 <jurov>	yeah like that :D
Dec 10 16:19:25 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: well then, buff em :P
Dec 10 16:19:40 <Ukto>	jurov: if you need help, lemme know :)
Dec 10 16:19:47 <Ukto>	its fairly easy
Dec 10 16:20:40 <jurov>	yes, already figured the hardest part and can show qr codes... but there was another work plus i got some flu again...
Dec 10 16:20:55 <Ukto>	ouch
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Dec 10 16:29:05 <jurov>	and must confess, my priority recently was rather to tune the bot...
Dec 10 16:29:36 <Ukto>	heh, I know how proirities go! :)
Dec 10 16:29:48 <jurov>	but now i ran out of ideas how to improve it without redoing whole thing, coinbr can get some love
Dec 10 16:30:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 10 16:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	btw, just to remind everyone that i'm still taking mm's for the futures.
Dec 10 16:31:52 <jurov>	and i'm ready to equip mm's with a code... as i spammed everywhere
Dec 10 16:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	hm?
Dec 10 16:32:54 <Ukto>	.. merged mining? :P
Dec 10 16:33:17 <jurov>	hehe, no market makers for futures
Dec 10 16:33:27 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 10 16:34:21 <jurov>	and my idea is, someone like that may find coinbr foundation useful
Dec 10 16:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Dec 10 16:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	quite possibly.
Dec 10 16:39:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13267 @ 0.000539 = 7.1509 BTC [+]
Dec 10 16:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00053916 = 2.6958 BTC [+]
Dec 10 16:39:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3783 @ 0.00053939 = 2.0405 BTC [+]
Dec 10 16:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24617 @ 0.00053939 = 13.2782 BTC [+]
Dec 10 16:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1883 @ 0.00053991 = 1.0167 BTC [+]
Dec 10 16:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto "This site is pretty awesome compared to others I've looked at. It has an easy and intuitive interface which makes buying and selling shares really easy."
Dec 10 16:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	prepare for the charge of noob brigade
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Dec 10 16:46:14 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 10 16:47:30 <Ukto>	we shall see
Dec 10 16:47:38 <Ukto>	post has hardly hit 31 views
Dec 10 16:47:47 <Ukto>	dont think the post itself will cause any major uproar :P
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Dec 10 16:48:07 <Ukto>	I honestly was not even going to bother
Dec 10 16:48:17 <Ukto>	a couple possible issuers asked me to
Dec 10 16:48:18 <jurov>	bah. does it have one-click price setting like coinbr?
Dec 10 16:48:33 <Ukto>	it has one click price cancel! :P
Dec 10 16:49:03 <Ukto>	besides, usually when you enter a price, you use the keyboard, the click one time to submit
Dec 10 16:49:08 <Ukto>	so wouldnt everyone have 1 click? :P
Dec 10 16:49:26 <Ukto>	you dont HAVE to click a text box.. you can tab to it.. :P
Dec 10 16:49:33 <Ukto>	clicking is optional
Dec 10 16:49:45 <Ukto>	so BF is NO-Click price setting :P
Dec 10 16:51:34 <mircea_popescu>	o wow i'm inspired
Dec 10 16:51:40 *	mircea_popescu goes and disables clicking on mpex
Dec 10 16:51:48 <Ukto>	lol
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Dec 10 16:53:25 <jurov>	mircea, you should replace whole mpex page with blank screen & command prompt
Dec 10 16:53:34 <Ukto>	wow
Dec 10 16:53:37 <Ukto>	that would just... wow.
Dec 10 16:53:37 <jurov>	C:\>
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Dec 10 16:55:16 <jurov>	Abort, Retry, Fail?
Dec 10 16:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	be like
Dec 10 16:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	mpex$_
Dec 10 16:55:57 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 10 16:57:23 <jcpham>	http://duckduckgo.com/tty/
Dec 10 16:57:47 <mod6>	:]
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Dec 10 17:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	pff already done
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Dec 10 17:07:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00331325 = 2.8163 BTC [-]
Dec 10 17:07:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 589 @ 0.0033 = 1.9437 BTC [-]
Dec 10 17:08:22 <mircea_popescu>	davout don't worry, the current set of groupies will be soon replaced by a larger, worse one.
Dec 10 17:08:33 <Namjies>	=O
Dec 10 17:08:37 <Namjies>	Futures
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Dec 10 17:10:41 <davout>	mircea_popescu: asshole :D
Dec 10 17:10:42 <Namjies>	Hmm, 2% fee
Dec 10 17:10:54 <Ukto>	2% free? :P
Dec 10 17:11:00 <davout>	mircea_popescu: btw i haven't rated you on otc yet, but i will
Dec 10 17:11:14 <Ukto>	is that a threat? :P
Dec 10 17:11:14 <Namjies>	Those thing don't move as much in value. The 2% fee might get annoying.
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Dec 10 17:16:23 <jurov>	Namjies but bitcoin moves
Dec 10 17:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies true.
Dec 10 17:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	then again you can just buy them
Dec 10 17:17:04 <Namjies>	indeed
Dec 10 17:17:08 <pigeons>	2% fee for what?
Dec 10 17:17:21 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/futures-on-mpex/
Dec 10 17:17:25 <Namjies>	I'd probably sell them to go long on Bitcoins.
Dec 10 17:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	also davout's mom
Dec 10 17:17:50 <pigeons>	davout's mom is a bank
Dec 10 17:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	no that's his other  mom
Dec 10 17:18:06 <Namjies>	"The future is here with futures"... or some marketing of the sort.
Dec 10 17:18:20 <davout>	come on guys
Dec 10 17:18:24 <davout>	don't be so jealous
Dec 10 17:18:34 <davout>	you WISH you were regulated as I am :3
Dec 10 17:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies yeah, selling them would be a decent synthetic btc buy
Dec 10 17:19:13 <davout>	https://dl.dropbox.com/u/52452135/io.jpg
Dec 10 17:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha in romanian regulated is argot for http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/thumb/13370513351s.gif
Dec 10 17:19:51 <mircea_popescu>	who's that gypsy douche you're so infatuated with anyway ?
Dec 10 17:20:08 <davout>	he's my own personal god
Dec 10 17:20:33 <davout>	he's called django reinhardt
Dec 10 17:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	are you allowed in bitcoin if your personal god isn't galt ?
Dec 10 17:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoIJ4W7kXiQ actually i've heard worse
Dec 10 17:21:11 <davout>	and i use it as my avatar and public face because it looks slightly more professionnal than spongebob squarepants
Dec 10 17:21:38 <davout>	this guy is awesome to listen to
Dec 10 17:21:43 <davout>	and he's awesome to play
Dec 10 17:21:52 <davout>	not that i'd ever play like him
Dec 10 17:21:55 <davout>	but still
Dec 10 17:21:59 <davout>	and the best part
Dec 10 17:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	i like guys who are aware that they look like spongebob irl.
Dec 10 17:22:26 <davout>	is that this guy has lost TWO FUCKING FINGERS ON HIS LEFT HAND
Dec 10 17:22:34 <davout>	before he even got this guitar style
Dec 10 17:22:50 <davout>	spongebob is awesome
Dec 10 17:23:28 <davout>	"a familiar rock awaits you somewhere" -> oh god, i didn't understand this one right away, but when i did it fucking cracked me up
Dec 10 17:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ?
Dec 10 17:24:19 <davout>	MPOE-PR being the usual bitch :)
Dec 10 17:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005386 = 2.3273 BTC [-]
Dec 10 17:24:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00053845 = 2.1807 BTC [-]
Dec 10 17:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6729 @ 0.00053818 = 3.6214 BTC [-]
Dec 10 17:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 10 17:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	she could bottle it and sell it. 99 9/8 pure.
Dec 10 17:25:27 <davout>	i still haven't decided if you are actually different people of if she's just your other personality
Dec 10 17:25:37 <davout>	but i don't think it really mattes
Dec 10 17:25:41 <davout>	matters*
Dec 10 17:25:46 <lyspooner>	same person
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Dec 10 17:26:36 <lyspooner>	c la pire PR que je peux imaginer
Dec 10 17:26:50 <lyspooner>	but i like it
Dec 10 17:26:54 <Namjies>	J'approuve
Dec 10 17:26:54 <pigeons>	i think at least he really puts on women's panties when he gets into the role
Dec 10 17:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	worst and best collide lyspooner :D
Dec 10 17:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053982 = 2.3326 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4726 @ 0.00053996 = 2.5519 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	and she actually is a she.
Dec 10 17:27:19 <jurov>	yet another drugs&porn bitcoin "advocate": http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/the-future-of-money-its-not-in-your-hands/
Dec 10 17:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov possibly the worst touch-up job on that pic. is it supposed to be half "digital" that 1 dolalr note ?
Dec 10 17:28:22 <davout>	mircea_popescu: timestamped picture or she lives in your brain
Dec 10 17:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	how did that go
Dec 10 17:28:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;google poliboobs
Dec 10 17:28:56 <gribble>	PoliTits: <http://politits.blogspot.com/>; poliboobs - Twitter: <https://twitter.com/search?q=%23poliboobs&src=hash>; PoliTITS | wherethegirlsgo: <http://wherethegirlsgo.com/?ai1ec_event=politits&instance_id=>
Dec 10 17:29:25 <davout>	i need a break from the forums
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Dec 10 17:31:42 <jurov>	davout, so you came here?
Dec 10 17:32:04 <davout>	well
Dec 10 17:32:10 <davout>	i had to go *somewhere*
Dec 10 17:32:20 <davout>	and i didn't really feel like meditation
Dec 10 17:32:29 <kakobreklaaa>	whats wrong with here jurov?
Dec 10 17:32:36 <davout>	oh this, and mircea summoned me
Dec 10 17:32:54 <jurov>	nothing wrong, just poking a bit
Dec 10 17:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 112 @ 0.13219995 = 14.8064 BTC [-]
Dec 10 17:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	gold is totally the winner so far
Dec 10 17:35:33 <jurov>	did you ask coinabul on physical delivery at least for that?
Dec 10 17:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	we discussed it many months ago.
Dec 10 17:36:14 <jurov>	and ?
Dec 10 17:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.EWTI] 60 @ 0.06666667 = 4 BTC [-]
Dec 10 17:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6610 @ 0.00053996 = 3.5691 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:37:20 <jurov>	like, what did they say?
Dec 10 17:37:54 <mircea_popescu>	complicated.
Dec 10 17:38:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27514 @ 0.00053996 = 14.8565 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:38:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00054001 = 10.1522 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:38:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14628 @ 0.00054002 = 7.8994 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:38:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11736 @ 0.00054005 = 6.338 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:38:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00054006 = 20.5763 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:38:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00054012 = 2.2145 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:38:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29894 @ 0.00054039 = 16.1544 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00054056 = 6.7029 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:38:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2828 @ 0.00054064 = 1.5289 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3622 @ 0.00054064 = 1.9582 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:40:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8078 @ 0.00054074 = 4.3681 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053848 = 2.3268 BTC [-]
Dec 10 17:43:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11879 @ 0.00053818 = 6.393 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 17:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053827 = 2.3259 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1579 @ 0.00053818 = 0.8498 BTC [-]
Dec 10 17:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3479 @ 0.000538 = 1.8717 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 17:54:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00054048 = 2.3354 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13372 @ 0.00054074 = 7.2308 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00054052 = 2.3356 BTC [-]
Dec 10 17:56:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31350 @ 0.00054074 = 16.9522 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00054098 = 12.713 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.0005411 = 8.0353 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12712 @ 0.00054132 = 6.8813 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00054134 = 2.409 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17251 @ 0.00054139 = 9.3395 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00054142 = 15.1327 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00054177 = 13.4359 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8639 @ 0.00054205 = 4.6828 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00054211 = 5.6922 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00054222 = 4.88 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00054226 = 12.3093 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00054236 = 9.0303 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00054249 = 5.3707 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00054251 = 4.9097 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00054253 = 9.006 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00054267 = 9.144 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00054284 = 4.5599 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21506 @ 0.00054296 = 11.6769 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00054306 = 11.4314 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00054313 = 9.722 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12532 @ 0.00054313 = 6.8065 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24264 @ 0.00054328 = 13.1821 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:56:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45350 @ 0.00054331 = 24.6391 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00054332 = 8.1498 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19520 @ 0.00054333 = 10.6058 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00054333 = 7.2535 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.0005435 = 14.0223 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00054357 = 7.1751 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.0005436 = 9.8392 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.0005436 = 15.2752 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00054378 = 9.7065 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27212 @ 0.00054402 = 14.8039 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00054437 = 10.0708 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00054438 = 7.0225 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00054453 = 12.5242 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00054526 = 15.6762 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00054558 = 4.5283 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00054571 = 14.5159 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33902 @ 0.0005458 = 18.5037 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35800 @ 0.00054593 = 19.5443 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00054615 = 11.1961 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.0005463 = 8.1945 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00054774 = 11.0643 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00054782 = 36.3205 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25167 @ 0.00054807 = 13.7933 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13033 @ 0.00054826 = 7.1455 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00054854 = 6.5551 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73350 @ 0.00054887 = 40.2596 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:57:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48750 @ 0.00054905 = 26.7662 BTC [+]
Dec 10 17:59:43 <mircea_popescu>	she says o wtf happened here!
Dec 10 17:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Dec 10 18:00:06 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, mpoe-pr says "he puts on women's panties, and posts on bitcointaaaaalk"
Dec 10 18:00:18 <Ukto>	who, u? :P
Dec 10 18:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	no srsly guise
Dec 10 18:00:42 <Ukto>	havent seen u post on there in a while
Dec 10 18:00:50 <Ukto>	at least int he threads i read
Dec 10 18:01:17 <mircea_popescu>	she's only really supposed to do the trading/economy
Dec 10 18:03:18 <davout>	i want to see you in women's panties mircea
Dec 10 18:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	anyone has any theory as to why hash rate isn't dropping ?
Dec 10 18:04:40 <pigeons>	it is dropping
Dec 10 18:05:18 <pigeons>	;;bc,diffchange
Dec 10 18:05:20 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -6.67681208754 % based on data since last change | -5.57782548461 % based on data for last three days
Dec 10 18:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	3.3mn diff...
Dec 10 18:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	24.9 th/s
Dec 10 18:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	hardly a drop!
Dec 10 18:06:38 <pigeons>	https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/MOB#tab3
Dec 10 18:06:45 <pigeons>	looks like a winner
Dec 10 18:06:51 <davout>	people are simply speculating that the future value will make them profitable retroactively
Dec 10 18:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	why's that thing still loading ;/
Dec 10 18:09:19 <pigeons>	i was trying to link to the contract & prospectus page
Dec 10 18:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00055037 = 11.3376 BTC [+]
Dec 10 18:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00055101 = 11.1855 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 18:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11711 @ 0.00055 = 6.4411 BTC [-]
Dec 10 18:15:02 <mircea_popescu>	25000 Shares Will Be Issued With An Approx. Value Of 1.0 LTC Per Share.
Dec 10 18:15:02 <mircea_popescu>	Funds raised will be invested into various loans including but not limited to
Dec 10 18:15:02 <mircea_popescu>	BTCJAM.com
Dec 10 18:15:06 <Ukto>	hmmm
Dec 10 18:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	what could possibly go right.
Dec 10 18:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	In the extremely unlikely event that we operate at a loss for more than 90 days,
Dec 10 18:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	the board reserves the option to
Dec 10 18:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Dec 10 18:15:28 <Ukto>	think i shoulda posted the bitfunder thread in teh main marktplace instead of securities? :/
Dec 10 18:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	securities seems apropriate
Dec 10 18:15:57 <Ukto>	it, itself isnt a security
Dec 10 18:16:10 <Ukto>	cryptostocks lists in the main marketplace
Dec 10 18:16:19 <pigeons>	note: we are not really the mob
Dec 10 18:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	C) SHAREHOLDERS as OWNERS of a public company are OBLIGATED to act IN GOOD FAITH with regard to the company and its operation, including GUARDING TRADE SECRETS
Dec 10 18:16:38 <Ukto>	what if they break C ?
Dec 10 18:16:40 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty good. guard them trade secrets of the 25k share 1 ltc nominal non-mob mob thingee
Dec 10 18:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	they probably trade $15 to suzy for massage services, which is their trade secret.
Dec 10 18:17:26 <pigeons>	bet you wish you were more user friendly now
Dec 10 18:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	what's the ltc in btc these days ?
Dec 10 18:17:36 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 10 18:17:40 <Ukto>	i thnk hes glad hes not
Dec 10 18:17:43 <Ukto>	0.06 i think
Dec 10 18:17:47 <Ukto>	or 0.05999
Dec 10 18:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i was starting to be concerned i'm a little TOO friendly
Dec 10 18:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	need to hire -pr's identical twin.
Dec 10 18:18:04 <pigeons>	 LTC/BTC 0.00596
Dec 10 18:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	imagine, two of those.
Dec 10 18:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 25000 *  0.00596
Dec 10 18:18:16 <gribble>	149
Dec 10 18:18:16 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: just swich the site to the console system :P
Dec 10 18:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	o hey! the entire corp is less than what i made playing dragon's tale for a coupla days
Dec 10 18:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	shit.
Dec 10 18:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	did i just give out a trade secret ?
Dec 10 18:18:56 <Ukto>	is dragons tale full of ads?
Dec 10 18:18:58 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 10 18:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	notrly
Dec 10 18:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	mostly full of coconuts
Dec 10 18:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	D) The litecoinglobal.com website operates as a non-fiduciary clearinghouse
Dec 10 18:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	providing transactional intermediation between private parties
Dec 10 18:19:36 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck does this mean ?
Dec 10 18:20:15 <pigeons>	it means they trade cocunuts
Dec 10 18:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	wait a second. any user owning  10 shares in the exchange gets to vote on new issues ?
Dec 10 18:21:11 <Ukto>	yea
Dec 10 18:21:13 <Ukto>	buy 10
Dec 10 18:21:14 <mircea_popescu>	suppose i make 20 accounts, buy 10 shares and round-robin them around. = 20 votes => your momma's a whore inc (YMAH, inc) approved
Dec 10 18:21:16 <Ukto>	and you can vote how you want
Dec 10 18:21:22 <Ukto>	yes
Dec 10 18:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck ?!
Dec 10 18:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	who came up with this
Dec 10 18:21:33 <Ukto>	do that
Dec 10 18:21:35 <Ukto>	and vote no
Dec 10 18:21:37 <Ukto>	for everything
Dec 10 18:21:42 <mircea_popescu>	lmao that too
Dec 10 18:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	total dos.
Dec 10 18:21:53 <Ukto>	no counts as 2 negative votes
Dec 10 18:21:57 <Ukto>	yes counts as 1 positive
Dec 10 18:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00055 = 3.245 BTC [-]
Dec 10 18:31:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3109 @ 0.00055101 = 1.7131 BTC [+]
Dec 10 18:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00329871 = 2.1442 BTC [-]
Dec 10 18:39:57 <mircea_popescu>	davout what is an assymmetric cypher?
Dec 10 18:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	zing!
Dec 10 18:40:51 <davout>	you see, that's the problem with success
Dec 10 18:41:12 <davout>	one spelling mistake gets amplified by all the wannabe legitimate regulated businessmen
Dec 10 18:41:15 <davout>	:3
Dec 10 18:41:58 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Dec 10 18:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	you mean, of course, bussinessmen
Dec 10 18:47:45 <davout>	stop being so jealous mircea, one day you'll be regulated too
Dec 10 18:48:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3454 @ 0.00055007 = 1.8999 BTC [-]
Dec 10 18:49:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6747 @ 0.00055101 = 3.7177 BTC [+]
Dec 10 18:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1753 @ 0.00055154 = 0.9668 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 18:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of regulating, i should probably create some way for btc people to short euro and us financial institutions
Dec 10 18:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	that'll be a doozy
Dec 10 18:56:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 867 @ 0.00055007 = 0.4769 BTC [-]
Dec 10 18:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20783 @ 0.00055 = 11.4307 BTC [-]
Dec 10 18:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28795 @ 0.00055 = 15.8373 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 19:06:02 <jurov>	who sets up these s.mpoe manipulations?
Dec 10 19:08:30 <jurov>	right after i sell it to repay a loan, someone pushes price up and puts a wall on 0.00055
Dec 10 19:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 869 @ 0.00329871 = 2.8666 BTC [-]
Dec 10 19:10:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 781 @ 0.0032912 = 2.5704 BTC [-]
Dec 10 19:26:50 <mircea_popescu>	far as i can tell it's been bought all day since x.s
Dec 10 19:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	how much did you sell ?
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Dec 10 19:38:17 <kakobreklaaa>	mircea_popescu you got bit4x for that ;)
Dec 10 19:39:35 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Dec 10 19:41:16 <kakobreklaaa>	to short the world
Dec 10 19:41:20 <kakobreklaaa>	while stayin in bitcoin
Dec 10 19:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	o lol
Dec 10 19:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	kinda hard to short allianz via bit4x
Dec 10 19:42:35 <kakobreklaaa>	allianz?
Dec 10 19:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Dec 10 19:43:38 <kakobreklaaa>	ah
Dec 10 19:43:48 <kakobreklaaa>	i missed "financial inst." part
Dec 10 19:44:16 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 10 19:45:24 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker X.EWTI
Dec 10 19:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.EWTI] 1day: 0.06666667 / 0.06678667 / 0.066794 (1061 shares, 70.86 BTC), 30day: 0.06666667 / 0.06678667 / 0.066794 (1061 shares, 70.86 BTC)
Dec 10 19:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	eee
Dec 10 19:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker X.INDQ
Dec 10 19:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.INDQ] 1day: 0.20633112 / 0.20633112 / 0.20633112 (251 shares, 51.79 BTC), 30day: 0.20633112 / 0.20633112 / 0.20633112 (251 shares, 51.79 BTC)
Dec 10 19:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker X.MGCG
Dec 10 19:46:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.MGCG] 1day: 0.13219995 / 0.13220548 / 0.13220833 (386 shares, 51.03 BTC), 30day: 0.13219995 / 0.13220548 / 0.13220833 (386 shares, 51.03 BTC)
Dec 10 19:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://blog.e-gold.com/about-the-egold-blog.html
Dec 10 19:54:47 <mircea_popescu>	most successful blog of all time
Dec 10 20:09:55 <Namjies>	Well looking to get a 100 BTC loan filled for 4 weeks.
Dec 10 20:10:12 <kakobreklaaa>	10%
Dec 10 20:10:48 <Namjies>	I offer 2%, no more.
Dec 10 20:11:23 <Namjies>	My previous BTC-BOND rate
Dec 10 20:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies someone could just put the 100 in mpoe bonds and make 9.9% if last month holds ?
Dec 10 20:17:15 <kakobreklaaa>	too bad i didnt.
Dec 10 20:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	the e-gold operation maintains microsoft sql servers detailing
Dec 10 20:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	heh...
Dec 10 20:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	"From these images of the servers and copies of the databases, I was able to
Dec 10 20:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	reconstruct the customer profiles and transaction histories for e-gold account holders by
Dec 10 20:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	transferring the database information on each account holder into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet.
Dec 10 20:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	"
Dec 10 20:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	o god this is hilarious.
Dec 10 20:29:34 <jcpham>	what is this
Dec 10 20:30:52 <mircea_popescu>	ima blogpost in a min
Dec 10 20:31:49 <jcpham>	google says http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=reconstruct%20the%20customer%20profiles%20and%20transaction%20histories%20for%20e-gold%20account%20holders&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.justia.com%2Fcases%2Ffederal%2Fdistrict-courts%2Fdistrict-of-columbia%2Fdcdce%2F1%3A2007cv01346%2F126695%2F1%2F1.pdf&ei=yIzGULnGMoS90AHfkoGQBQ&usg=AFQjCNFHFfbmSZeEWo7_go
Dec 10 20:31:49 <jcpham>	m0FAU10urkSQ
Dec 10 20:31:57 <jcpham>	jesus christ
Dec 10 20:32:10 <jcpham>	http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/district-of-columbia/dcdce/1:2007cv01346/126695/1/1.pdf
Dec 10 20:32:33 <jcpham>	mr. roy dotosn
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Dec 10 20:40:48 <Namjies>	Oh well if anyone is interested anyway: https://btcjam.com/listings/899
Dec 10 20:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.0032912 = 5.2659 BTC [-]
Dec 10 20:46:49 <pigeons>	http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/dec/04/paul-krugman-asimov-economics
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Dec 10 20:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	they still haven't shot krugman ?
Dec 10 20:58:03 <pigeons>	http://archive.org/about/faqs.php#311   http://archive.org/donate/
Dec 10 21:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055037 = 2.3781 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7368 @ 0.00055008 = 4.053 BTC [-]
Dec 10 21:13:32 <Namjies>	Ahahah
Dec 10 21:14:40 <Namjies>	Open-source/non-profits/software cos adopt bitcoins every day.
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Dec 10 21:23:11 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/
Dec 10 21:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	aa cool beans pigeons
Dec 10 21:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055137 = 2.3825 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00055154 = 16.6565 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00055161 = 11.2528 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9893 @ 0.00055239 = 5.4648 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000553 = 5.53 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25186 @ 0.00055318 = 13.9324 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:35:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055014 = 2.3772 BTC [-]
Dec 10 21:35:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17607 @ 0.00055008 = 9.6853 BTC [-]
Dec 10 21:37:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055295 = 2.3893 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:37:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 214 @ 0.00055318 = 0.1184 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:37:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00055719 = 7.9121 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:37:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00055937 = 9.9008 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 21:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056086 = 2.4235 BTC [+]
Dec 10 21:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9137 @ 0.00056111 = 5.1269 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 21:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ENGG] 200 @ 0.27682136 = 55.3643 BTC
Dec 10 21:54:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00056111 = 5.4708 BTC [+]
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Dec 10 21:57:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056014 = 2.4204 BTC [-]
Dec 10 21:58:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22743 @ 0.00056 = 12.7361 BTC [-]
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Dec 10 22:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	purplecelestina that's a nice name.
Dec 10 22:09:03 <purplecelestina>	thank you
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Dec 10 22:54:04 <smickles>	78749045d632e04f6c7bea776d1921bf1e76ed0e361d464fb2de861b2c38f595
Dec 10 22:54:19 <smickles>	when numbers match up in that way, it's damn spooky
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Dec 10 23:02:44 <Namjies>	smickles: ???
Dec 10 23:04:38 <smickles>	Namjies: ???
Dec 10 23:06:12 <Ukto>	???
Dec 10 23:06:27 <smickles>	check the input and total output on that tx. the input was the conversion of one of our assets. The fact that it matched up, made me think that I did something horribly wrong until i rechecked the numbers
Dec 10 23:07:19 <smickles>	and, 100 even? with so many destinations going out to the satoshi?
Dec 10 23:07:26 <smickles>	what are the odds, eh?
Dec 10 23:08:06 <dub>	fuck
Dec 10 23:08:29 <dub>	when you sign a contract for $950k, you expect a motherfucker to call you back
Dec 10 23:09:30 <dub>	its almost nerve racking and shit
Dec 10 23:09:38 <Namjies>	You paid a few random holders and it ended up being EXACTLY 100 BTC?
Dec 10 23:09:57 <Namjies>	I recognize my address as well as some of my holders in there.
Dec 10 23:10:11 <dub>	praps a whiskey to calm the nerves
Dec 10 23:10:36 *	dub makes it a proper one
Dec 10 23:10:42 <Namjies>	How I manage to remember those addresses when I have a hard time remembering someone's name until I heard it for the thousandth time is beyond me.
Dec 10 23:11:07 <smickles>	dub: 950k? I can't even relate, best I've done is ~100k and they bought me gin
Dec 10 23:11:54 <smickles>	Namjies: I wouldn't call 'em random, they are the few who have made a claim so far
Dec 10 23:12:08 <dub>	heh, gave the guy a 95k check
Dec 10 23:12:17 <Namjies>	Well very odd.
Dec 10 23:13:14 <Namjies>	But not that odd either
Dec 10 23:14:04 <Namjies>	For example suppose you were paying 200 BTC or a round number and the current claimers happened to have a somewhat round number of shares, the payout would probably end up being a round number too.
Dec 10 23:15:22 <smickles>	yeah, but i didn't expect it to happen because I'm not dealing with nice round percentages, and it included peeps who were getting their second payment and peeps getting their first and second payment in one
Dec 10 23:16:30 <Namjies>	Ah, in the case...
Dec 10 23:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	pity it wasn't the lottery or something
Dec 10 23:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	guy comes to trilema, asks for futures explanation post. half hour later, futures explanation post. i hope he's impressed.
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Dec 10 23:23:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://worldinvestmentgroups.com/ lmao
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Dec 10 23:40:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INKG] 25 @ 0.07407914 = 1.852 BTC
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Dec 10 23:46:26 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130103.0
Dec 10 23:46:52 <dub>	how does vorhees manage to not be called an idiot more often?
Dec 10 23:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056063 = 2.4225 BTC [+]
Dec 10 23:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3479 @ 0.00056067 = 1.9506 BTC [+]
Dec 11 00:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12721 @ 0.00056067 = 7.1323 BTC [+]
Dec 11 00:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 267 @ 0.00056111 = 0.1498 BTC [+]
Dec 11 00:00:54 <dub>	what we need is a bitcoin crusade
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Dec 11 00:02:32 <dub>	to impale these 'serial entrepreneurs' on pikes and mount them at the gates of the intertubes
Dec 11 00:03:04 <dub>	a final solution for this tide of fucktardation
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Dec 11 00:31:52 <toffoo>	dub: why do you think that?  personally I think evorhees is about as far from "idiot" as one can get in the world of bitcoin writers/commentators.  maybe that's why no one calls him that.
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Dec 11 00:45:13 <dub>	toffoo: because he's advocating people talking to the media at significant conferences about bitcoin being for drugs and CP?
Dec 11 00:46:26 <dub>	that I don't see any displays of credibility other than an approach of; start a thousand 'businesses' and hope a couple stick
Dec 11 00:46:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1696 @ 0.00056111 = 0.9516 BTC [+]
Dec 11 00:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21328 @ 0.00056277 = 12.0028 BTC [+]
Dec 11 00:46:51 <dub>	clearly hitting a winner with dice, so far
Dec 11 00:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	dub you mean the tshirt bruno made ?
Dec 11 00:48:07 <dub>	well the thread he created that in response to
Dec 11 00:48:52 <dub>	voorhees seems to have an atitude of its more important to try alot than have success
Dec 11 00:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	i guess they be rumspringa-ing. still finding their bearings.
Dec 11 00:49:56 <dub>	sure but doing so in the pretense of representing the best and brightest of bitcoin?
Dec 11 00:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	Don't hate on someone just because a silly quote is pulled out and trumpeted by a journalist... you should know better.
Dec 11 00:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	Further, you can assume that most people have heard the blackmarket side of Bitcoin already. So by being frank about that, you can sometimes earn some honesty credits when you're meeting with people.
Dec 11 00:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	seems reasonable.
Dec 11 00:50:56 <dub>	there is acknowledgment and there is advocacy
Dec 11 00:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	and then there's the completely unfounded belief that conferences matter in any sense
Dec 11 00:51:27 <dub>	understandign that the media is want to twist things, extreme caution should be excercised in taht regard
Dec 11 00:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	or, for that matter, "journalism"
Dec 11 00:53:07 <dub>	so its ok to cry 'misquote!'
Dec 11 00:53:27 <dub>	better not to raise it imo
Dec 11 00:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	well that's all the excitement i can take for one day. later all
Dec 11 00:54:54 <dub>	nn
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Dec 11 00:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056005 = 2.42 BTC [-]
Dec 11 00:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00056 = 0.168 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 01:24:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056272 = 2.4315 BTC [+]
Dec 11 01:24:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3672 @ 0.00056277 = 2.0665 BTC [+]
Dec 11 01:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00056309 = 4.1106 BTC [+]
Dec 11 01:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00056371 = 2.0294 BTC [+]
Dec 11 01:24:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1111 @ 0.00056533 = 0.6281 BTC [+]
Dec 11 01:49:35 <pigeons>	http://www.intratechmontreal.com/index.php  "IntraTech believe in BitCoin."
Dec 11 01:49:57 <pigeons>	Currently, we will only accept 300 orders. If thereafter the demand is still there, we will continue to accept order after the 300 first order.
Dec 11 01:54:51 <Ukto>	hmm
Dec 11 01:54:54 <Ukto>	think they will ship pigeons?
Dec 11 01:55:12 <Ukto>	89.35btc for 65gh...
Dec 11 01:55:23 <Ukto>	claims to ship 14 days after order #300 hits
Dec 11 01:56:40 <pigeons>	good luck.
Dec 11 01:56:43 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 11 01:56:48 <Ukto>	yeah, i was kinda thinking the same
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Dec 11 01:57:25 <Ukto>	its about on par with BGL pricing
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Dec 11 01:57:44 <Ukto>	about $100 cheaper
Dec 11 01:59:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00056533 = 8.7909 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 02:09:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056033 = 2.4212 BTC [-]
Dec 11 02:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7279 @ 0.00056 = 4.0762 BTC [-]
Dec 11 02:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056524 = 2.4424 BTC [+]
Dec 11 02:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4639 @ 0.00056533 = 2.6226 BTC [+]
Dec 11 02:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13090 @ 0.00056548 = 7.4021 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 02:37:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13560 @ 0.00056548 = 7.6679 BTC [+]
Dec 11 02:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.0005669 = 3.7982 BTC [+]
Dec 11 02:37:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2882 @ 0.00056704 = 1.6342 BTC [+]
Dec 11 02:37:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2305 @ 0.00056811 = 1.3095 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 02:49:55 <Azelphur>	Anyone about that could help me with some GPG stuff?
Dec 11 02:50:01 <Ukto>	added dividend payout markers onto bitfunder graphs
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Dec 11 02:50:10 <Ukto>	gonna add the depth graph tomorrow
Dec 11 02:50:45 <mod6>	whats up Azelphur
Dec 11 02:51:00 <Azelphur>	mod6: I need to do this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1385017#msg1385017
Dec 11 02:51:03 <Azelphur>	but I don't have much of a clue
Dec 11 02:51:09 *	mod6 looks
Dec 11 02:53:24 <mod6>	oh it looks like you need to PGP cleansign a claim statement, then encrypt the clearsigned claim statement with the key id he references.
Dec 11 02:53:44 <Azelphur>	o.O
Dec 11 02:53:54 <mod6>	But... you might want to ask smickles just to make sure, he'll help you through it.
Dec 11 02:54:07 <Azelphur>	yea, he's not about atm so figured I'd just try and get it done
Dec 11 02:55:30 <mod6>	bah, laaag
Dec 11 02:59:25 <mod6>	Well, you might want to try to get that key first...
Dec 11 03:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005602 = 2.4206 BTC [-]
Dec 11 03:00:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16579 @ 0.00056 = 9.2842 BTC [-]
Dec 11 03:00:39 <mod6>	so maybe: `gpg --search-keys "0xEA62D7CEB2450C3F"` or `gpg --search-keys "B2450C3F"`
Dec 11 03:02:14 <mod6>	then you'll be able to do the following: `echo "Hi, I am Azelphur. I want to make a claim for X shares of SYMBOL" > claim.txt ; gpg --clearsign claim.txt`
Dec 11 03:02:34 <mod6>	at which point then you can do the following:
Dec 11 03:02:45 <Azelphur>	hmm, wouldn't he want me to sign it with the bitcoin address I used for GLBSE?
Dec 11 03:02:58 <mod6>	`gpg --armor --encrypt -r B2450C3F claim.txt.asc`
Dec 11 03:03:11 <mod6>	im not sure... make sure to ask him.
Dec 11 03:03:26 <Azelphur>	yea, I'll have to ask him to figure it out I think your right ;p
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Dec 11 03:03:46 <mod6>	at least see if you can import his public key, thats a good start.
Dec 11 03:04:27 <Azelphur>	hehe
Dec 11 03:04:47 <mod6>	good luck :D
Dec 11 03:04:54 <Azelphur>	ty :)
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Dec 11 03:07:07 <mod6>	np. i'll be around for a bit yet, just light me up if you need man.
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Dec 11 04:18:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056553 = 2.4437 BTC [+]
Dec 11 04:18:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11572 @ 0.0005655 = 6.544 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 05:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r374217-.html there, hyip industry.
Dec 11 05:18:36 <pigeons>	that makes my head hurt
Dec 11 05:18:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.talkgold.com/forum/f472-.html bitcoin being of course the top of the line in their main section
Dec 11 05:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	i recently ran a web probe for bitcoin. it's save to say every last internet scammer/"finance" whatever/general bulshitter/scammer knows of btc by now.
Dec 11 05:21:41 <pigeons>	yes true, i just pasted this earlier when you were gone: http://www.intratechmontreal.com/index.php
Dec 11 05:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	We produce a large quantity of product to our customer
Dec 11 05:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	lettuce, i wonder ?
Dec 11 05:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	IntraTech believe in BitCoin. We will provide you the hardware you need to be successful with BitCoin. Currently, we will only accept 300 orders. If thereafter the demand is still there, we will continue to accept order after the 300 first order.
Dec 11 05:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Dec 11 05:23:28 <pigeons>	:)
Dec 11 05:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	"Solidtrustpay scammed me ISSUE RESOLVED plus hundreds of people around the world"
Dec 11 05:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	this is such a riot
Dec 11 05:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	Please welcome the long term investment program StallionGold. StallionGold is precious metals holding and investment company offering its services to the international community of new generation of online investors.
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Dec 11 05:27:31 <pigeons>	yeah a few years ago i knew a whole town, the sherrif, the barber, the teachers, everyone put all their money into one of those
Dec 11 05:27:47 <pigeons>	you would think they would be running out of suckers
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Dec 11 05:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	i dun think that's how it works
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Dec 11 05:32:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1220 @ 0.0040975 = 4.999 BTC [+]
Dec 11 05:34:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056797 = 2.4542 BTC [+]
Dec 11 05:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00056811 = 1.5623 BTC [+]
Dec 11 05:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00332457 = 5.4855 BTC [+]
Dec 11 05:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9359 @ 0.00056811 = 5.3169 BTC [+]
Dec 11 05:48:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4482 @ 0.00056797 = 2.5456 BTC [-]
Dec 11 05:48:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056566 = 2.4442 BTC [-]
Dec 11 05:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 528 @ 0.0005655 = 0.2986 BTC [-]
Dec 11 05:48:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 151 @ 0.00056337 = 0.0851 BTC [-]
Dec 11 05:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056781 = 2.4535 BTC [+]
Dec 11 05:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1836 @ 0.00056811 = 1.043 BTC [+]
Dec 11 05:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.0005694 = 5.7225 BTC [+]
Dec 11 05:49:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00056954 = 4.357 BTC [+]
Dec 11 05:49:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00056956 = 10.4799 BTC [+]
Dec 11 05:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 343 @ 0.00057041 = 0.1957 BTC [+]
Dec 11 06:01:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057024 = 2.464 BTC [-]
Dec 11 06:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15957 @ 0.00057041 = 9.102 BTC [+]
Dec 11 06:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00057252 = 1.6889 BTC [+]
Dec 11 06:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8622 @ 0.00057389 = 4.9481 BTC [+]
Dec 11 06:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00057644 = 0.7206 BTC [+]
Dec 11 06:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00057644 = 3.084 BTC [+]
Dec 11 06:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 11 06:17:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43000, Best ask: 13.43001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.43000, 24 hour volume: 27962.67052584, 24 hour low: 13.26911, 24 hour high: 13.55000, 24 hour vwap: 13.44979
Dec 11 06:17:21 <mircea_popescu>	this is impressive, a week straight of 13.4-13.5
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Dec 11 06:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5438 @ 0.00057644 = 3.1347 BTC [+]
Dec 11 06:52:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12362 @ 0.00057644 = 7.126 BTC [+]
Dec 11 06:52:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4863 @ 0.00057693 = 2.8056 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 06:53:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056364 = 2.4355 BTC [-]
Dec 11 06:53:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10399 @ 0.00056337 = 5.8585 BTC [-]
Dec 11 06:53:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5480 @ 0.00056272 = 3.0837 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 07:27:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 875 @ 0.00333151 = 2.9151 BTC [+]
Dec 11 07:34:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056681 = 2.4492 BTC [+]
Dec 11 07:34:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17317 @ 0.00056674 = 9.8142 BTC [-]
Dec 11 07:34:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9612 @ 0.00056272 = 5.4089 BTC [-]
Dec 11 07:36:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056299 = 2.4327 BTC [+]
Dec 11 07:36:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11508 @ 0.00056272 = 6.4758 BTC [-]
Dec 11 07:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13877 @ 0.00056033 = 7.7757 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 07:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16664 @ 0.00056 = 9.3318 BTC [-]
Dec 11 07:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2094 @ 0.0005587 = 1.1699 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 08:04:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.0005587 = 6.8999 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 08:14:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15376 @ 0.00056021 = 8.6138 BTC [+]
Dec 11 08:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28824 @ 0.00056105 = 16.1717 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 08:41:36 <Chaang-Noi>	whats up all?
Dec 11 08:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00056105 = 5.0775 BTC [+]
Dec 11 08:50:45 <Chaang-Noi>	dead in here?
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Dec 11 08:51:52 <Chaang-Noi>	hey giga
Dec 11 08:52:14 <gigavps>	good morning
Dec 11 08:52:24 <gigavps>	or evening where you are :)
Dec 11 08:52:35 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Dec 11 08:57:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7498 @ 0.0005587 = 4.1891 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 09:07:18 <jurov>	mornin
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Dec 11 09:17:53 <kakobrekla>	o hi
Dec 11 09:18:20 <markedathome>	hello all
Dec 11 09:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3202 @ 0.00055643 = 1.7817 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 09:19:17 <kakobrekla>	;;rate jurov 1 paid the loan promptly
Dec 11 09:19:19 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jurov has been recorded.
Dec 11 09:19:35 <markedathome>	just had a thought, wonder if anyone is doing something along these lines with assets/dividends to avoid glbse probs.
Dec 11 09:20:31 <markedathome>	1) electrum style asset register where priv keys are stored with the user,
Dec 11 09:20:57 <markedathome>	pub keys are given to issuer to issue divs,
Dec 11 09:21:21 <markedathome>	priv keys are used to buy/sell against a register?
Dec 11 09:22:20 <markedathome>	can't see how bitcoin/litecoin global /btc.to etc are avoiding all the glbse style damage.
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Dec 11 09:37:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00055839 = 2.4011 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 10:03:52 <gigavps>	unless all exchanges start to dox their clientele and do proper reporting for different countries, they will eventually come under the thumb of tax reguators
Dec 11 10:04:11 <gigavps>	just sayin
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Dec 11 10:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056077 = 2.4231 BTC [+]
Dec 11 10:17:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19454 @ 0.00056105 = 10.9147 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 11:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055873 = 2.4143 BTC [-]
Dec 11 11:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4525 @ 0.00055839 = 2.5267 BTC [-]
Dec 11 11:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11304 @ 0.0005563 = 6.2884 BTC [-]
Dec 11 11:15:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2296 @ 0.0005563 = 1.2773 BTC [-]
Dec 11 11:15:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25754 @ 0.00055554 = 14.3074 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 11:57:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000561 = 2.4241 BTC [+]
Dec 11 11:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3172 @ 0.00056105 = 1.7797 BTC [+]
Dec 11 11:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00056145 = 1.8528 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 11:58:19 <markedathome>	anyone know what the minimum btc trade on mtgox is? I appear to be getting an unreadable red message with Ple|Gre|Equ  cut off by the stupid layering html scheme that has a background with a higher priority...
Dec 11 11:58:40 <markedathome>	than an error message...
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Dec 11 11:59:28 <imsaguy>	markedathome: classic.mtgox.com
Dec 11 11:59:33 <imsaguy>	it has less fluff
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Dec 11 12:02:04 <markedathome>	well, slightly more readable - and 0.01 BTC
Dec 11 12:04:09 <jurov>	um, nobody added a new GPG story past 2 weeks?
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Dec 11 12:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 383 @ 0.00333151 = 1.276 BTC [+]
Dec 11 12:23:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2750 @ 0.00336849 = 9.2633 BTC [+]
Dec 11 12:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00339513 = 5.0927 BTC [+]
Dec 11 12:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 17 @ 0.0034 = 0.0578 BTC [+]
Dec 11 12:28:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056119 = 2.4249 BTC [-]
Dec 11 12:28:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20929 @ 0.00056145 = 11.7506 BTC [+]
Dec 11 12:30:26 <smickles>	jurov: yeah, I got halfway thru a story, then haven't had time since :(
Dec 11 12:30:50 <smickles>	I modeled mine off of "Ragged Dick"
Dec 11 12:31:34 <smickles>	and I hope to finish it sometime soon and publish it regardless of the MP contest
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Dec 11 12:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055836 = 2.4127 BTC [-]
Dec 11 12:43:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00055831 = 2.8474 BTC [-]
Dec 11 12:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5346 @ 0.00055554 = 2.9699 BTC [-]
Dec 11 12:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6083 @ 0.00055198 = 3.3577 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 12:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055219 = 2.386 BTC [+]
Dec 11 12:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10979 @ 0.00055198 = 6.0602 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 13:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i knew that was gonna happen
Dec 11 13:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol moar bfl delays ?
Dec 11 13:26:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00056111 = 1.5711 BTC [+]
Dec 11 13:34:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1521 @ 0.00056111 = 0.8534 BTC [+]
Dec 11 13:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00056145 = 0.0118 BTC [+]
Dec 11 13:34:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19358 @ 0.0005621 = 10.8811 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 13:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130103.msg1391832#msg1391832
Dec 11 13:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	owned.
Dec 11 13:53:58 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome congratulations, you've sorta half-done mpex.
Dec 11 13:54:29 <markedathome>	er, what?
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Dec 11 14:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	<markedathome> just had a thought, wonder if anyone is doing something along these lines with assets/dividends to avoid glbse probs.
Dec 11 14:03:29 <markedathome>	oh right yes,
Dec 11 14:03:58 <markedathome>	sorry - i thought you thought that i had posted in the thread above.
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Dec 11 14:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	a no
Dec 11 14:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	but otherwise yes, gpg is the correct way to handle that.
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Dec 11 14:07:54 <dub>	mircea_popescu: ignoring the 'joke' defense jgarzik answers pretty well
Dec 11 14:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	orly ?!
Dec 11 14:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	well, stay tuned, the girl's about to tear into him.
Dec 11 14:13:17 <dub>	wrt the joke defense, its a pet annouyance that people seem to think an unidentifiably sarcastic remark equals humour, notwithstanding, parroting the most commonly held myths about bitcoin hardly even qualifies as that.
Dec 11 14:15:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056189 = 2.4279 BTC [-]
Dec 11 14:15:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005619 = 2.428 BTC [+]
Dec 11 14:15:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 726 @ 0.0005621 = 0.4081 BTC [+]
Dec 11 14:15:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11682 @ 0.00056762 = 6.6309 BTC [+]
Dec 11 14:16:19 <dub>	and 'any PR is good PR'? please
Dec 11 14:19:54 <mircea_popescu>	who would you say is the top PR on btctalk atm ?
Dec 11 14:23:06 <dub>	I'd have to think about it, not your girl. while I usually agree and get a few chuckles the delivery is often counter productive
Dec 11 14:23:14 <dub>	maybe Meni despite his problems
Dec 11 14:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	who's meni a pr for ?
Dec 11 14:23:29 <dub>	himself?
Dec 11 14:23:48 *	dub commute &
Dec 11 14:23:52 <mircea_popescu>	heh. ok, i'm abandoning this conversation, you're beyond confused.
Dec 11 14:23:56 <markedathome>	one of the bitinstant guys?
Dec 11 14:24:11 <markedathome>	charlie / yankee
Dec 11 14:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Dec 11 14:24:33 <mircea_popescu>	although we'll know better once they hit a major crisis
Dec 11 14:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	kinda where prs are proven
Dec 11 14:25:49 <markedathome>	they aren't PR as such, but they do their own business pr IIRC. they are good for their business and sometimes intercede in other business events. don't know about their abilities as bitcoin proponents unless there are some audio / vids around
Dec 11 14:26:33 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome the only point was about which pr is good/bad.
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Dec 11 14:27:28 <kakobreklaa>	well
Dec 11 14:27:34 <kakobreklaa>	there arent that many to choose from
Dec 11 14:27:47 <markedathome>	is evorhees the one who did the new hampshire thing back in march / april this year?
Dec 11 14:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ACOG] 1602 @ 0.05710061 = 91.4752 BTC
Dec 11 14:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ACOG] 898 @ 0.05713408 = 51.3064 BTC [+]
Dec 11 14:29:27 <mircea_popescu>	which one is that ?
Dec 11 14:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.AWHG] 1000 @ 0.0670108 = 67.0108 BTC
Dec 11 14:32:36 <markedathome>	ah found it, he testified in state house https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64034.0
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Dec 11 14:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	nh has a house ?!
Dec 11 14:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool.
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Dec 11 14:45:31 <dub>	looking increasingly like im not going to have a house this week
Dec 11 14:46:31 <dub>	agent is being a dick, going to withdraw our offer if he hasnt communicated in the next 3 hours
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Dec 11 14:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	maybe that 16 yo 7/11 clerk he's been eyeing for weeks finaly gave it out in the parking lot.
Dec 11 14:56:52 <mircea_popescu>	have a heart.
Dec 11 14:59:10 <dub>	well for the ~$50k commision im sure he could rent a number of 16 y/o
Dec 11 15:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056054 = 2.4221 BTC [-]
Dec 11 15:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00056025 = 12.5496 BTC [-]
Dec 11 15:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.00055198 = 1.1476 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 15:32:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/#comment-90923
Dec 11 15:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	prizes sent to all 3 participants lol.
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Dec 11 15:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ENGG] 291 @ 0.27682136 = 80.555 BTC
Dec 11 15:52:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ENGG] 159 @ 0.27703788 = 44.049 BTC [+]
Dec 11 15:52:47 <jurov>	i almost got another one, but the writer bailed out off the project
Dec 11 15:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	the advantages of contemporary education
Dec 11 15:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	average young adult is unable to write five pages.
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Dec 11 16:00:54 <jurov>	dunno, it's not education exactly. i used to wrote hilarious essays as a child
Dec 11 16:01:07 <jurov>	then it got worn off somehow
Dec 11 16:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Dec 11 16:07:08 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1393343#msg1393343 :)
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Dec 11 16:16:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00055716 = 5.0423 BTC [+]
Dec 11 16:31:47 <dub>	http://i.minus.com/iWQplxdpm5kjI.gif
Dec 11 16:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/mKgQEmPtd/http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php
Dec 11 16:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha .5 seconds frw.
Dec 11 16:36:31 <dub>	thats cool, firebug in the coud
Dec 11 16:36:34 <dub>	cloud*
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Dec 11 16:40:37 <dub>	here is the correct slip n slide technique http://i.imgur.com/I4MeF.gif
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Dec 11 16:43:28 <thestringpuller>	wtf is up wit bitcoin-central
Dec 11 16:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	?
Dec 11 16:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	dub : it's not in the cloud.
Dec 11 16:45:22 <dub>	hao so?
Dec 11 16:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	um ? cause i own the servers ?
Dec 11 16:47:29 <thestringpuller>	are they backed up?
Dec 11 16:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Dec 11 16:47:42 <thestringpuller>	thats silly
Dec 11 16:47:51 *	thestringpuller waves finger
Dec 11 16:48:11 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin-central is betting an IBAN...
Dec 11 16:48:21 <thestringpuller>	or is iy BIN...
Dec 11 16:50:39 <mircea_popescu>	they're making it so any customer gets iban
Dec 11 16:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	from what i gather
Dec 11 16:53:24 <jurov>	if that IBAN thing resembles anything like bank account they'll require IDs pretty soon
Dec 11 16:53:45 <mircea_popescu>	i thought they required ids already ?
Dec 11 16:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	and ofcourse it does, that's what iban is, euro acct number.
Dec 11 16:55:20 <jurov>	they don't specifically mention that anywhere
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Dec 11 16:56:20 <jurov>	and davout is not putting any definite answer either: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129461.msg1388689#msg1388689
Dec 11 16:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	jesus that thing's 21 pages by now
Dec 11 16:58:33 <davout>	jurov: what is your question ?
Dec 11 16:58:53 <jurov>	davout, whether you're going to ask IDs
Dec 11 16:59:10 <davout>	we already ask for IDs if you deposit more than 250€
Dec 11 16:59:21 <davout>	or if you withdraw to a bank acct
Dec 11 17:00:14 <jurov>	thanks. that information is quite hard to find.
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Dec 11 17:01:11 <davout>	it's buried in the AML/KYC policy in the ToS
Dec 11 17:01:19 <davout>	i agree it could be a little clearer
Dec 11 17:01:28 <davout>	thing is
Dec 11 17:01:54 <davout>	unlike mtgox we don't freeze funds if you refuse to ID
Dec 11 17:02:06 <davout>	we simply send funds back from where they came
Dec 11 17:02:15 <davout>	which is basically what the law is saying
Dec 11 17:02:33 <davout>	mtgox does lots of shit it isn't legally required to do
Dec 11 17:03:01 <davout>	theoretically we should ID everyone all the time
Dec 11 17:03:38 <davout>	but we told our financial partner that it would just not work in the bitcoin world so they agreed on having a threshold under which we won't require IDs
Dec 11 17:03:43 <dub>	mircea_popescu: you own pingdom?
Dec 11 17:04:06 <mircea_popescu>	dub we obviously are talking of diff things
Dec 11 17:04:33 <dub>	yea, firebug is a ff extension that does teh same thing as pingdom locally
Dec 11 17:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	o
Dec 11 17:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	i don't use/know ff
Dec 11 17:04:48 <dub>	firefox
Dec 11 17:06:10 <dub>	alos, when I say 'in the cloud' its with tounge in cheek and means 'on the internet'
Dec 11 17:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	well that part got lost
Dec 11 17:06:26 <dub>	becuase thats what cloud is a stupid marketing term for
Dec 11 17:08:04 <jcpham>	to the cloud, batman
Dec 11 17:12:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4801 @ 0.00056594 = 2.7171 BTC [+]
Dec 11 17:12:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005675 = 2.4522 BTC [+]
Dec 11 17:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16078 @ 0.00056762 = 9.1262 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 17:40:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056195 = 2.4282 BTC [-]
Dec 11 17:40:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7879 @ 0.00056173 = 4.4259 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 17:57:58 <pigeons>	always add "in the cloud" to your fortune cookie messages
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Dec 11 19:17:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056435 = 2.4386 BTC [+]
Dec 11 19:17:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16482 @ 0.00056419 = 9.299 BTC [-]
Dec 11 19:19:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056446 = 2.439 BTC [+]
Dec 11 19:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4668 @ 0.00056419 = 2.6336 BTC [-]
Dec 11 19:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3544 @ 0.00056173 = 1.9908 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 19:26:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2884 @ 0.0034 = 9.8056 BTC [+]
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Dec 11 19:30:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21446 @ 0.00056173 = 12.0469 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 19:35:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056732 = 2.4514 BTC [+]
Dec 11 19:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20206 @ 0.00056759 = 11.4687 BTC [+]
Dec 11 19:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056729 = 2.4513 BTC [-]
Dec 11 19:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 544 @ 0.00056759 = 0.3088 BTC [+]
Dec 11 19:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2890 @ 0.00056762 = 1.6404 BTC [+]
Dec 11 19:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 845 @ 0.00057162 = 0.483 BTC [+]
Dec 11 20:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057149 = 2.4694 BTC [-]
Dec 11 20:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6505 @ 0.00057162 = 3.7184 BTC [+]
Dec 11 20:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00057255 = 1.918 BTC [+]
Dec 11 20:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.0005755 = 6.3881 BTC [+]
Dec 11 20:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1857 @ 0.00057593 = 1.0695 BTC [+]
Dec 11 20:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00056226 = 5.3696 BTC [-]
Dec 11 20:52:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056187 = 2.4278 BTC [-]
Dec 11 20:52:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1241 @ 0.00056186 = 0.6973 BTC [-]
Dec 11 21:02:23 <Ukto>	uggh, forums so slooooooow.. trying to make a post for 30 minutes now
Dec 11 21:04:59 <pigeons>	that's good, its a warning, "what are you doing at this cesspool? stop"
Dec 11 21:05:08 <Ukto>	no kidding
Dec 11 21:05:09 *	Ukto sighs
Dec 11 21:05:35 <Ukto>	people have 'asked' that I build up my forum post count so they will somehow feel better about me.. not sure how that works exactly, but w/e
Dec 11 21:05:43 <Ukto>	I will post meaningful and relevent topics.
Dec 11 21:06:11 <Graet>	lol post count means nothing
Dec 11 21:06:42 <Graet>	dont go too hard or you'll end up here
Dec 11 21:06:43 <Graet>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119085.0
Dec 11 21:06:45 <Graet>	:P
Dec 11 21:07:35 <Graet>	in fact say to those people post count means nothing and link that thread :D
Dec 11 21:07:44 <jurov>	haha have you seen my (rini17) sig?
Dec 11 21:08:28 <jurov>	"Let's reward bullshit by "Full" and "Hero" membership...what could possibly get wrong?"
Dec 11 21:09:12 <jurov>	i'm full member now.. but it took like 6 months
Dec 11 21:09:55 <Ukto>	oh I know
Dec 11 21:09:59 <Ukto>	just trying to make a couple people happy
Dec 11 21:10:02 <Ukto>	who want to make me happy
Dec 11 21:10:02 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 11 21:10:51 <jurov>	what would make you happy?
Dec 11 21:10:53 <Ukto>	Im not "pumping" mine. just gonna reply to a few legit threads and try to stop people before doing seriously stupid things and cause more crap
Dec 11 21:11:07 <Ukto>	jurov: more assets on bitfunder is a good start :P
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Dec 11 21:11:26 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129844.msg1393936#msg1393936
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Dec 11 21:12:04 <jurov>	hehe maybe i'll finally add btc support to simpleshell.com, would it be eligible for listing then?
Dec 11 21:12:20 <jurov>	(coinbr.com is my crown jewel, will stay private for now)
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Dec 11 21:12:43 <Ukto>	I am not one for people tossing around phrases such as 'forfeiture of all accounts' and 'of all shares & coins' lightly
Dec 11 21:12:46 <Ukto>	thats not a joke
Dec 11 21:13:01 <Ukto>	thats borderline theft, meaning it or not
Dec 11 21:13:02 <dub>	go and play in gages count to 21m with pictures thread
Dec 11 21:14:04 <Ukto>	jurov: you planning to start charging?
Dec 11 21:14:15 <Ukto>	it's pretty nifty, worked w/o problems
Dec 11 21:14:58 <jurov>	yes, there are some folks clamoring for extended time
Dec 11 21:15:24 <jurov>	and if i have list of shareholders, perhaps they can have shell for free
Dec 11 21:15:39 <jurov>	or it's burnside's thing that sends shareholders lists?
Dec 11 21:16:18 <Ukto>	technically, any one you sell shares to is a shareholder. :)
Dec 11 21:16:28 <Ukto>	so posting an asset on bitfunder would be posting shares to sell
Dec 11 21:16:41 <Ukto>	to let people buy in, and own shares, and receive dividend payouts
Dec 11 21:17:13 <jurov>	yes, only that additionally to dividends, they can use the service
Dec 11 21:17:23 <jurov>	if they hold more than 1% or so
Dec 11 21:17:32 <Ukto>	would be easy to find out
Dec 11 21:17:33 <Ukto>	in real time
Dec 11 21:17:44 <Ukto>	since bitfunder publishes shareholder list live
Dec 11 21:17:53 <Ukto>	by bitcoin address (they choose to make one public)
Dec 11 21:17:58 <Ukto>	address/asset/shares
Dec 11 21:18:11 <Ukto>	you can verify that address with them on your side
Dec 11 21:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056207 = 2.4287 BTC [+]
Dec 11 21:18:15 <Ukto>	auto or by hand
Dec 11 21:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9729 @ 0.00056186 = 5.4663 BTC [-]
Dec 11 21:18:26 <Ukto>	and setup a script to check every X hours or days on bitfunder
Dec 11 21:18:33 <Ukto>	how many shares of your asset that address holds
Dec 11 21:18:33 <Ukto>	:)
Dec 11 21:19:04 <Ukto>	as I made in my earlier post, neither cryptostocks nor btct.co list such info publically
Dec 11 21:19:05 <jurov>	it's sufficient every week, i don't see  adding/removing users every hour
Dec 11 21:19:14 <Ukto>	you could do it on the fly even
Dec 11 21:19:18 <Ukto>	using a simple json fetch
Dec 11 21:19:20 <Ukto>	once the api is done
Dec 11 21:19:34 <Ukto>	that would be a public api
Dec 11 21:19:47 <jurov>	oh, not necessary, let they ask if they are interested
Dec 11 21:19:53 <Ukto>	hehe
Dec 11 21:20:03 <Ukto>	though, now I must say thanks
Dec 11 21:20:16 <Ukto>	as you have given me a really neat idea / way to use the public list :)
Dec 11 21:20:54 <jurov>	well, i got this simpleshell.com idea in a spur of moment, too :)
Dec 11 21:21:36 <jurov>	i was one time hanging out at #anapnea, it was nice shell service
Dec 11 21:21:46 <jurov>	but then the owner abandoned it
Dec 11 21:22:20 <jurov>	now, combined with shares, everything could be much coooooler
Dec 11 21:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057311 = 2.4764 BTC [+]
Dec 11 21:33:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9679 @ 0.00057329 = 5.5489 BTC [+]
Dec 11 21:49:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005723 = 2.4729 BTC [-]
Dec 11 21:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00057202 = 9.7529 BTC [-]
Dec 11 21:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00056186 = 0.522 BTC [-]
Dec 11 21:59:27 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Dec 11 21:59:39 <thestringpuller>	jurov my brokerman
Dec 11 21:59:57 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 11 21:59:58 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 28 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <smickles> and I hope to finish it sometime soon and publish it regardless of the MP contest
Dec 11 22:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057297 = 2.4758 BTC [+]
Dec 11 22:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5621 @ 0.00057329 = 3.2225 BTC [+]
Dec 11 22:14:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4308 @ 0.00057593 = 2.4811 BTC [+]
Dec 11 22:18:38 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yo
Dec 11 22:19:58 <thestringpuller>	help me make money
Dec 11 22:20:13 <smickles>	where legal, sell your body
Dec 11 22:21:02 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I'm an accountant, I'm better at tracking how well you did
Dec 11 22:21:07 <thestringpuller>	id rather sell drugs
Dec 11 22:21:09 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 11 22:21:34 <smickles>	and compiling reports which will aid you in doing it better
Dec 11 22:22:46 <thestringpuller>	i was thinking about attaching shipments to autonomous rc planes
Dec 11 22:22:55 <jcpham>	chesseburger
Dec 11 22:23:08 <jcpham>	chess-e-burger
Dec 11 22:23:16 <thestringpuller>	boston teaparty
Dec 11 22:23:40 <jcpham>	vegas teabagging
Dec 11 22:24:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057579 = 2.488 BTC [-]
Dec 11 22:24:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19335 @ 0.00057593 = 11.1356 BTC [+]
Dec 11 22:24:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8444 @ 0.00057693 = 4.8716 BTC [+]
Dec 11 22:25:50 <smickles>	thestringpuller: quadcopters :D
Dec 11 22:27:54 <smickles>	thestringpuller: oh, depending on how you would profile the risk, MPBOR seems to be getting about 4% per month iirc
Dec 11 22:29:13 <smickles>	;;later tell mircea_popescu does mpoe run market making on the new futures? if so, does it use mpbor for capital too?
Dec 11 22:29:13 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 11 22:33:04 <smickles>	;;later tell gribble inception
Dec 11 22:33:04 <gribble>	Error: I can't send notes to myself.
Dec 11 22:33:09 <smickles>	:o
Dec 11 22:34:45 <thestringpuller>	isnt that 20 btc minimum?
Dec 11 22:40:14 <Bugpowder>	no much more
Dec 11 22:42:08 <thestringpuller>	59?
Dec 11 22:42:14 <thestringpuller>	69?
Dec 11 22:44:30 <Bugpowder>	Typically 500BTC
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Dec 11 23:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00057579 = 3.0229 BTC [-]
Dec 11 23:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0005632 = 5.0688 BTC [-]
Dec 11 23:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056211 = 2.4289 BTC [-]
Dec 11 23:09:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12101 @ 0.00056186 = 6.7991 BTC [-]
Dec 11 23:09:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8981 @ 0.00056173 = 5.0449 BTC [-]
Dec 11 23:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6097 @ 0.00056064 = 3.4182 BTC [-]
Dec 11 23:20:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056076 = 2.423 BTC [+]
Dec 11 23:20:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4129 @ 0.00056064 = 2.3149 BTC [-]
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Dec 11 23:33:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056096 = 2.4239 BTC [+]
Dec 11 23:33:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1625 @ 0.00056064 = 0.911 BTC [-]
Dec 11 23:33:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00055639 = 0.918 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 00:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00057225 = 5.0358 BTC [+]
Dec 12 00:05:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057547 = 2.4866 BTC [+]
Dec 12 00:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8379 @ 0.00057579 = 4.8245 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 00:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056299 = 2.4327 BTC [-]
Dec 12 00:13:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10979 @ 0.00056292 = 6.1803 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 00:55:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00057146 = 3.0002 BTC [+]
Dec 12 00:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10226 @ 0.00056292 = 5.7564 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 01:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057555 = 2.487 BTC [+]
Dec 12 01:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1629 @ 0.00057565 = 0.9377 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 01:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	smickles neither mpoe nor mpex nor i mm the new futures.
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Dec 12 01:54:16 <Diablo-D3>	hey mircea_popescu smickles
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Dec 12 01:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	sup
Dec 12 01:54:35 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129566.msg1392977#msg1392977
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Dec 12 01:55:20 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: save a copy of that post somewhere just in case it goes
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Dec 12 01:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol moar bruno private dickery ?
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Dec 12 01:57:02 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: its bfl dox.
Dec 12 01:57:18 <pigeons>	https://btct.co/security/BAKEWELL
Dec 12 01:57:20 <Diablo-D3>	I dont care where he got them or who he is, I do not imagine they will stay on the forums for very long
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Dec 12 01:57:27 <Ukto>	can we ban Tiggr for now ?
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Dec 12 01:58:14 <Ukto>	pigeons: dont make me sad bro :P
Dec 12 01:58:16 <Diablo-D3>	sure if someone had ops
Dec 12 01:58:22 *	Ukto pokes kakobrekla
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Dec 12 02:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	bfl is really inept. who the fuck announces their 3rd delay on the 2nd product after having promised "not to repeat the 1st product delays"
Dec 12 02:06:08 <mircea_popescu>	in the terms of "not shipping BEFORE x date".
Dec 12 02:06:14 <dub>	;;later tell tiggr join less channels tard
Dec 12 02:06:15 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Dec 12 02:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	 /ignore works dub
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Dec 12 02:07:08 <dub>	yep
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Dec 12 02:07:31 <pigeons>	which comes first, pirate repayment or bfl asics?
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Dec 12 02:08:40 <mod6>	lol the ole 500,000 BTC question
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Dec 12 02:22:02 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: just wanted to say. You'r awsome. :P
Dec 12 02:22:09 <Ukto>	your're
Dec 12 02:22:11 <Ukto>	jfdfhgh
Dec 12 02:22:12 <Diablo-D3>	oh?
Dec 12 02:22:14 <Ukto>	too tired to type
Dec 12 02:22:15 <Ukto>	"you are"
Dec 12 02:22:16 <Ukto>	there
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Dec 12 02:22:43 <Diablo-D3>	what did I do?
Dec 12 02:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	i think he means your bfl post.
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Dec 12 02:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	and i agree
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Dec 12 02:23:07 <Ukto>	hehe
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Dec 12 02:26:08 <Ukto>	:)
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Dec 12 02:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057117 = 2.468 BTC [-]
Dec 12 02:28:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8879 @ 0.00057107 = 5.0705 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 02:31:27 <Diablo-D3>	so at some point Im going to have to put DMC on bitfunder
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Dec 12 02:32:04 <Ukto>	hehe
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Dec 12 03:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16301 @ 0.00057107 = 9.309 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 03:08:37 <mircea_popescu>	hey everyone, please read this : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc/
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Dec 12 03:13:47 <mod6>	Thanks for posting that.
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Dec 12 03:14:03 <mircea_popescu>	yee
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Dec 12 03:22:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8349 @ 0.00057107 = 4.7679 BTC [-]
Dec 12 03:22:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1330 @ 0.00056915 = 0.757 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 03:31:08 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: apparently, someone did not like you suggestion. :P
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Dec 12 03:32:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ISP5] 1000 @ 0.10179952 = 101.7995 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 03:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2692 @ 0.00057565 = 1.5496 BTC [+]
Dec 12 03:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1371 @ 0.00057579 = 0.7894 BTC [+]
Dec 12 03:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6093 @ 0.00057693 = 3.5152 BTC [+]
Dec 12 03:45:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1802 @ 0.00057808 = 1.0417 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 05:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	"Cause they're French. They don't have the technology."
Dec 12 05:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	ajhahahaha ok
Dec 12 05:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Dec 12 05:21:35 <Diablo-D3>	they dont
Dec 12 05:21:46 <Diablo-D3>	they spent all their points on cooking skills instead
Dec 12 05:22:06 <Diablo-D3>	[03:31:08] <Ukto> Diablo-D3: apparently, someone did not like you suggestion. :P
Dec 12 05:22:11 <davout>	mircea_popescu: the french community frowns upon your shenanigans
Dec 12 05:22:12 <Diablo-D3>	yeah well.
Dec 12 05:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057522 = 2.4855 BTC [-]
Dec 12 05:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21579 @ 0.00057517 = 12.4116 BTC [-]
Dec 12 05:22:26 <davout>	Diablo-D3: lol
Dec 12 05:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	davout lol
Dec 12 05:22:47 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 12 05:22:56 <Diablo-D3>	ALSO WILL SOMEONE BAN NIGGR ALREADY?
Dec 12 05:22:57 <Diablo-D3>	er
Dec 12 05:22:59 <Diablo-D3>	tiggr
Dec 12 05:23:04 <davout>	LOL
Dec 12 05:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla is busy having sex.
Dec 12 05:23:09 *	Ukto is writing a response to burnsides post on the bitfunder thread. :P
Dec 12 05:23:10 <Diablo-D3>	the letters, they're so close.
Dec 12 05:23:38 <davout>	as long as they're not too close to my bike i'm fine
Dec 12 05:23:49 <Diablo-D3>	o/~ tiggr stole your bike o/~
Dec 12 05:23:54 <SomeoneWeird>	lmao
Dec 12 05:26:16 *	Diablo-D3 listens to ssh - tales of phantasia / fighting of the spirit
Dec 12 05:26:33 <jurov>	hehe
Dec 12 05:26:51 <jurov>	Ukto, so burnside is after you now? :D
Dec 12 05:27:50 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsMZXl15FRU
Dec 12 05:27:53 <Diablo-D3>	original <3
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Dec 12 05:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057645 = 2.4908 BTC [+]
Dec 12 05:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18079 @ 0.00057679 = 10.4278 BTC [+]
Dec 12 05:33:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005765 = 2.4911 BTC [-]
Dec 12 05:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3121 @ 0.00057679 = 1.8002 BTC [+]
Dec 12 05:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4948 @ 0.00057808 = 2.8603 BTC [+]
Dec 12 05:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00057815 = 1.3587 BTC [+]
Dec 12 05:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2660 @ 0.00057989 = 1.5425 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 05:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	i'm making mousaka
Dec 12 05:38:22 <davout>	mousaka rocks
Dec 12 05:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	oya.
Dec 12 05:38:39 <davout>	sucks your cooking points aren't that high
Dec 12 05:38:58 <davout>	there are some cooking spoons with +3 cooking for sale on SR
Dec 12 05:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	i use nude girls with cooking +6 tits.
Dec 12 05:39:43 <Diablo-D3>	tits only improve cooking skills if they wear nothing but a cooking apron
Dec 12 05:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	there's a special apron made to go between the tits.
Dec 12 05:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	they wear it by turn.
Dec 12 05:40:23 *	jurov wields +7 cooking gay powers
Dec 12 05:40:25 *	jurov hides
Dec 12 05:40:50 *	Diablo-D3 has a +15 chefs knife.
Dec 12 05:41:03 <mircea_popescu>	ok ok you all win
Dec 12 05:41:07 <mircea_popescu>	and i smell my mousaka.
Dec 12 05:41:34 *	Diablo-D3 pulls out something that looks like a man sized cleaver.
Dec 12 05:41:40 <Diablo-D3>	IN MOTHER RUSSIA, WE COOK WITH THIS.
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Dec 12 05:45:03 <Diablo-D3>	TODAY IS 12/12/12, THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH
Dec 12 05:48:12 <davout>	word
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Dec 12 05:49:10 <jurov>	Happy End Of The World Day!
Dec 12 05:49:28 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : answered your comment
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Dec 12 05:53:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057526 = 2.4857 BTC [-]
Dec 12 05:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7610 @ 0.00057517 = 4.377 BTC [-]
Dec 12 05:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8519 @ 0.00057214 = 4.8741 BTC [-]
Dec 12 05:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057959 = 2.5044 BTC [+]
Dec 12 05:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8679 @ 0.00057989 = 5.0329 BTC [+]
Dec 12 05:56:41 <markedathome>	end of the world is 21/12/12
Dec 12 05:58:47 <jurov>	i end to think the world already died. the old one.
Dec 12 05:58:59 <dub>	story checks out
Dec 12 05:59:22 <Ukto>	sup  jurov
Dec 12 06:01:16 <jurov>	sup
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Dec 12 06:10:06 <Ukto>	oh..
Dec 12 06:10:09 <Ukto>	its about to come...
Dec 12 06:10:10 *	Ukto grins
Dec 12 06:10:19 *	Ukto is about to post a response
Dec 12 06:10:43 *	Ukto feels bad, started writing, and then I think I went to far into realizing something... but still want to point it out.
Dec 12 06:10:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00338611 = 2.5396 BTC [-]
Dec 12 06:13:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057978 = 2.5052 BTC [-]
Dec 12 06:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1013 @ 0.00057989 = 0.5874 BTC [+]
Dec 12 06:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5366 @ 0.00058078 = 3.1165 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 06:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10330 @ 0.00058078 = 5.9995 BTC [+]
Dec 12 06:31:50 <Ukto>	ahhh
Dec 12 06:31:53 <Ukto>	thar she blows
Dec 12 06:31:54 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1394685#msg1394685
Dec 12 06:32:02 <Ukto>	I should probably walk away from teh forums
Dec 12 06:32:09 <Ukto>	before I manage to piss someone off
Dec 12 06:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2956 @ 0.00338189 = 9.9969 BTC [-]
Dec 12 06:32:25 <Ukto>	I think I suck at PR :P
Dec 12 06:33:31 *	jurov knowingly pats Ukto on shoulder
Dec 12 06:33:43 <Ukto>	read it
Dec 12 06:33:45 <Ukto>	tell me how bad it is
Dec 12 06:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	so what if you piss someone off ?
Dec 12 06:34:33 <Ukto>	What about it?
Dec 12 06:34:44 <Ukto>	I just get mad about my writing being crap
Dec 12 06:34:53 <pigeons>	its good ukto, just write less :)
Dec 12 06:34:57 <Ukto>	pigeons: NO
Dec 12 06:35:08 <Ukto>	MUST HAVE 100 PAGE RETORTS
Dec 12 06:35:12 <Ukto>	will cause ppl to want to reply more
Dec 12 06:35:12 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 12 06:35:14 <jurov>	Ukto, i decided to refrain from in-depth analyzing of burnside's stuff and just write about coinbr. I recommend similar approach
Dec 12 06:35:22 <Ukto>	lesson I learned years ago on forums
Dec 12 06:35:30 <Ukto>	er
Dec 12 06:35:31 <Ukto>	to reply LESS
Dec 12 06:35:32 <Ukto>	even
Dec 12 06:35:43 <Ukto>	then id/when a troll picks up on it
Dec 12 06:35:46 <Ukto>	simply ignore THEM
Dec 12 06:35:48 <Ukto>	and respond to everyone else
Dec 12 06:35:49 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 12 06:36:15 <Ukto>	jurov: meh, he posted in bitfunders launch thread
Dec 12 06:36:24 <Ukto>	I had to offer something back as a thank you. :)
Dec 12 06:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2904 @ 0.00058078 = 1.6866 BTC [+]
Dec 12 06:36:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00058081 = 14.1137 BTC [+]
Dec 12 06:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5546 @ 0.00058093 = 3.2218 BTC [+]
Dec 12 06:36:56 <Ukto>	as I said, I have nothing aginst him, never ment to make it seem that way. Just responding.
Dec 12 06:37:27 <jurov>	not sure if you understood me
Dec 12 06:37:36 <Ukto>	might not
Dec 12 06:37:39 <Ukto>	its almost 6am :P
Dec 12 06:37:44 <Ukto>	and I just wrote some shitty english
Dec 12 06:38:04 <jurov>	plainly, analyzing about the belize stuff is just wasting your time
Dec 12 06:38:14 <Ukto>	ahhh
Dec 12 06:38:32 <Ukto>	ooh, jurov
Dec 12 06:38:35 <jurov>	leave that to mpoe-rp., she's paid to do it
Dec 12 06:38:40 <Ukto>	did you see, I got an eye roll from someone? :P
Dec 12 06:38:54 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1394411#msg1394411
Dec 12 06:39:24 <Ukto>	while I was writing the response, his post kept comming to mind. :P
Dec 12 06:40:19 <Ukto>	In fact, I now feel the urge to respond to it
Dec 12 06:40:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7254 @ 0.00058093 = 4.2141 BTC [+]
Dec 12 06:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3046 @ 0.00058195 = 1.7726 BTC [+]
Dec 12 06:42:06 <Ukto>	holy crap
Dec 12 06:42:09 <Ukto>	"At least they're honest  ::)"
Dec 12 06:42:16 <Ukto>	WHY is a smiley face.. an eyeroll animation1?!?
Dec 12 06:42:28 <Ukto>	or is that waht 4 eyes is
Dec 12 06:42:32 *	Ukto peers
Dec 12 06:46:41 <jurov>	Ukto, that 5:10am reply is really fine, don't see any problem wit it
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Dec 12 06:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/12/google-bug/ lol
Dec 12 06:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057249 = 2.4737 BTC [-]
Dec 12 06:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3679 @ 0.00057214 = 2.1049 BTC [-]
Dec 12 07:00:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057215 = 2.4723 BTC [+]
Dec 12 07:00:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8279 @ 0.00057214 = 4.7367 BTC [-]
Dec 12 07:02:59 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1394714#msg1394714
Dec 12 07:03:00 <Ukto>	HANDLES
Dec 12 07:03:03 <Ukto>	HANDLED
Dec 12 07:03:04 <Ukto>	even
Dec 12 07:05:18 *	Ukto yawns
Dec 12 07:05:23 <Ukto>	damn it.. now its 6:10am
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Dec 12 07:16:41 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: your clock is off
Dec 12 07:16:45 <Diablo-D3>	fix it
Dec 12 07:17:22 <Ukto>	just syncd... not even 60 seconds
Dec 12 07:17:25 <Ukto>	where are you seeing that?
Dec 12 07:17:43 <Diablo-D3>	my irc client timestamps
Dec 12 07:17:52 <Diablo-D3>	you said 6:10 at 6:05
Dec 12 07:18:01 <Ukto>	ass.
Dec 12 07:18:01 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 12 07:18:31 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: did you like my (just edited) post to friedcat ? :P
Dec 12 07:18:46 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, I saw it before you posted it in here
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Dec 12 07:29:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00337832 = 7.0945 BTC [-]
Dec 12 07:29:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1505 @ 0.00332457 = 5.0035 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 07:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057571 = 2.4876 BTC [+]
Dec 12 07:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 787 @ 0.00057582 = 0.4532 BTC [+]
Dec 12 07:44:15 <Graet>	oh looks like i should submit a claim to DMC
Dec 12 07:44:41 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 12 07:45:05 <Graet>	wonder how many i had lol
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Dec 12 07:45:56 <Ukto>	didnt you say you were going to give them to me? :P
Dec 12 07:46:56 <Diablo-D3>	graet: well, theres 320 not claimed yet
Dec 12 07:47:29 <Graet>	i *think* i had like 40
Dec 12 07:47:52 <Graet>	do you have a list with addy u can check?
Dec 12 07:47:58 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Dec 12 07:48:34 <Graet>	cool
Dec 12 07:48:45 <Graet>	i'll email or something :)
Dec 12 07:48:55 <Diablo-D3>	just give me the first 3 digits of the address
Dec 12 07:48:58 <Diablo-D3>	or your email
Dec 12 07:48:59 <Diablo-D3>	I have both
Dec 12 07:49:05 <Graet>	graet@ozco.in
Dec 12 07:49:13 <Diablo-D3>	I think I saw you
Dec 12 07:49:15 <Diablo-D3>	lemme check
Dec 12 07:49:16 <Graet>	cool
Dec 12 07:49:18 <Graet>	ty :)
Dec 12 07:49:32 <Diablo-D3>	you had 70 shares, and its already in here
Dec 12 07:49:45 <Graet>	in here?
Dec 12 07:49:51 <Diablo-D3>	in the list
Dec 12 07:49:56 <Graet>	cool :D
Dec 12 07:50:01 *	Graet relaxes
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Dec 12 08:09:26 *	Ukto dumps a glass of ice water on burnside
Dec 12 08:09:38 <Ukto>	he'll eventually throw something at me :P
Dec 12 08:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057569 = 2.4876 BTC [-]
Dec 12 08:09:46 <Ukto>	when he decides to stop staying silent :P
Dec 12 08:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1979 @ 0.00057582 = 1.1395 BTC [+]
Dec 12 08:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 500 @ 0.12483526 = 62.4176 BTC [-]
Dec 12 08:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 500 @ 0.15545821 = 77.7291 BTC [-]
Dec 12 08:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 580 @ 0.09155695 = 53.103 BTC [-]
Dec 12 08:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057219 = 2.4724 BTC [-]
Dec 12 08:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6973 @ 0.00057214 = 3.9895 BTC [-]
Dec 12 08:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3106 @ 0.00056915 = 1.7678 BTC [-]
Dec 12 08:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056935 = 2.4602 BTC [+]
Dec 12 08:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1379 @ 0.00056915 = 0.7849 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 08:38:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 940 @ 0.06441525 = 60.5503 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 08:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129844.msg1394663#msg1394663
Dec 12 08:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	this is kind of dubious.
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Dec 12 09:15:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10037 @ 0.00056942 = 5.7153 BTC [+]
Dec 12 09:15:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2896 @ 0.0005757 = 1.6672 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 09:19:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005692 = 2.4595 BTC [-]
Dec 12 09:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11785 @ 0.00056915 = 6.7074 BTC [-]
Dec 12 09:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00056697 = 3.4585 BTC [-]
Dec 12 09:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://drudgereport.com/
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Dec 12 09:44:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 661 @ 0.12418574 = 82.0868 BTC [-]
Dec 12 09:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	0.6188173 BTC paid over 989 shares.
Dec 12 09:52:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29035 @ 0.00056697 = 16.462 BTC [-]
Dec 12 09:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	this is cute. what's the point of having something that makes 3 btc a month listed as a security ?
Dec 12 09:59:18 <jcpham>	sounds like gpu mining
Dec 12 09:59:26 <jcpham>	har har har
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Dec 12 10:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Dec 12 10:19:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11215 @ 0.00056697 = 6.3586 BTC [-]
Dec 12 10:19:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5285 @ 0.00056473 = 2.9846 BTC [-]
Dec 12 10:23:19 *	PsychoticBoy (~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 12 10:24:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16615 @ 0.00056473 = 9.383 BTC [-]
Dec 12 10:24:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11347 @ 0.000564 = 6.3997 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 10:32:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 90 @ 0.12361654 = 11.1255 BTC [-]
Dec 12 10:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 10 @ 0.09249376 = 0.9249 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 10:59:16 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you know, your drama timeline isnt really correct
Dec 12 10:59:30 <Diablo-D3>	Remember, I bought back half the shares before the glbse collapse
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Dec 12 11:14:38 <PsychoticBoy>	most shit stirring is not 100% correct
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Dec 12 11:38:00 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFJUz1DO20Q
Dec 12 11:38:02 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: yeah really
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Dec 12 12:06:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 853 @ 0.000564 = 0.4811 BTC [-]
Dec 12 12:06:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12097 @ 0.00056309 = 6.8117 BTC [-]
Dec 12 12:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1425 @ 0.00056439 = 0.8043 BTC [+]
Dec 12 12:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00056441 = 1.6368 BTC [+]
Dec 12 12:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6575 @ 0.00056523 = 3.7164 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 13:20:28 <jurov>	rdponticelli, wanna buy some real estate? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14odz7/selling_things_for_bitcoins_in_argentina/
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Dec 12 13:25:07 <jurov>	looky who's using twatter now: https://twitter.com/pontifex
Dec 12 13:26:55 <rdponticelli>	jurov: lol
Dec 12 13:27:12 <rdponticelli>	Soon we will be selling our moms for bitcoins
Dec 12 13:50:12 <dub>	jurov: he started tweeting
Dec 12 13:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000565 = 2.4414 BTC [-]
Dec 12 13:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9329 @ 0.00056523 = 5.273 BTC [+]
Dec 12 13:53:16 <dub>	I predict that lulz will ensue
Dec 12 13:53:53 <Diablo-D3>	there
Dec 12 13:53:54 <Diablo-D3>	I cleaned out all the bfl crap from the custom hardware forum
Dec 12 13:53:59 <Diablo-D3>	bfl can have one thread and thats it
Dec 12 13:54:05 <dub>	mod abuse!
Dec 12 13:54:17 <Diablo-D3>	went from 7 pages to 4.
Dec 12 13:54:29 <dub>	you should delete all posts except for a DMC one
Dec 12 13:54:41 <Diablo-D3>	dmc isnt in that subforum
Dec 12 13:54:41 <dub>	and sticky it
Dec 12 13:54:48 <dub>	it should be
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Dec 12 13:58:32 <Graet>	lol
Dec 12 14:07:03 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2012/12/12/problem-solving-barrel-locks/
Dec 12 14:08:24 <jcpham>	spam!
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Dec 12 14:13:07 <iz>	jcpham: i cracked RSA in a similar way one...  just guessed the private key.. :b
Dec 12 14:13:13 <iz>	once
Dec 12 14:13:25 <jcpham>	hilarity
Dec 12 14:13:50 <jcpham>	i had several people tell me yesterday that wouldn't work
Dec 12 14:14:26 <iz>	yeah, those types of locks aren't very secure, espesically if you can see the key
Dec 12 14:16:53 <jcpham>	the long story is this server was in ocean city, nj when the hurricane came through
Dec 12 14:17:07 <jcpham>	1st floor, 4 blocks from the coast 18 inches above the water line
Dec 12 14:17:22 <jcpham>	it got shipped to me and the people that shipped it are incompetent
Dec 12 14:17:30 <jcpham>	end of story
Dec 12 14:32:54 <Diablo-D3>	GOG.com is giving out DRM free Duke Nukem 3D for free: http://j.mp/DukeNukem3Dfree
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Dec 12 14:45:03 <Bugpowder>	Anybody watching satoshidice today?
Dec 12 14:46:22 <Bugpowder>	Up 11,000 bitcoins profit in the last 24 hours
Dec 12 14:51:36 <zerokwel>	i played that game so much when i was younger
Dec 12 14:55:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056522 = 2.4423 BTC [-]
Dec 12 14:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2630 @ 0.00056523 = 1.4866 BTC [+]
Dec 12 14:55:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12041 @ 0.00056729 = 6.8307 BTC [+]
Dec 12 14:59:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00056729 = 2.4393 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 15:04:14 <B0g4r7>	Looks like nefario erroneously sent me some extra BTC.
Dec 12 15:04:26 <B0g4r7>	What a comedy of compound errors.
Dec 12 15:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1453 @ 0.00056729 = 0.8243 BTC [+]
Dec 12 15:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00057067 = 10.8142 BTC [+]
Dec 12 15:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1247 @ 0.00057082 = 0.7118 BTC [+]
Dec 12 15:14:58 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.560
Dec 12 15:28:41 <midnightmagic>	pigeons: The more time passes since the last time everyone saw pirate, the less chance IMO of him paying back. On the other hand, strictly speaking I would say "before" an event which I think will never happen is an ordering of events that I couldn't really bet on anyway.
Dec 12 15:29:13 <midnightmagic>	semantically it seems wrong, but I couldn't tell you how I would phrase it any other way. :-)
Dec 12 15:30:35 <markedathome>	B0g4r7: if you don't send it back you won't get included on the lists. Of course the fact that nefario hasn't bothered to email the people who've been paid double, and you have to hunt down the payback address, is of course, nothing to worry about
Dec 12 15:30:48 <midnightmagic>	So I guess..  the possibilities are: 1) bfl doesn't deliver ever, pirate pays, 2) bfl delivers, but pirate pays first, 3) bfl doesn't deliver ever, pirate never pays, 3) bfl delivers, pirate never pays.
Dec 12 15:31:40 <midnightmagic>	4) bfl delivers first, pirate pays
Dec 12 15:32:02 <kakobrekla>	they will both deliver. bfl a finger in the ass. pirate a fist.
Dec 12 15:32:25 <markedathome>	er, 2 x 3) there...
Dec 12 15:32:39 <midnightmagic>	i would like to point out that people thought the same thing the first time bfl made weird claims that could only be possible in exceptional circumstances.
Dec 12 15:33:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00057082 = 4.4524 BTC [+]
Dec 12 15:33:25 <midnightmagic>	markedathome: huh?
Dec 12 15:34:01 <markedathome>	3) <--- bfl doesn't deliver ever, pirate never pays, 3) <---  bfl delivers, pirate never pays.
Dec 12 15:34:59 <B0g4r7>	Yea, I don't care about being on any lists.  I had no assets.
Dec 12 15:35:19 <midnightmagic>	oh right sorry
Dec 12 15:35:30 <B0g4r7>	If he contacts me and asks for it back, I'll send it along.  He has my email.
Dec 12 15:38:25 <mircea_popescu>	<Diablo-D3> Remember, I bought back half the shares before the glbse collapse << 1 btc per ?
Dec 12 15:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	jurov who's pontifex ?
Dec 12 15:39:11 <markedathome>	the pope@thevatican
Dec 12 15:40:23 <markedathome>	though I can't help thinking it is a Douglas Adams H2G2 character
Dec 12 15:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	<PsychoticBoy> most shit stirring is not 100% correct << https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78638.msg1388615#msg1388615 how about that bit ?
Dec 12 15:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	o looky! jcpham has a blog!
Dec 12 15:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> Up 11,000 bitcoins profit in the last 24 hours << is it one of those cases where they only pay the losers cause some bets are stuck or w/e and it seems they made a killing ?
Dec 12 15:42:13 <jcpham>	oh em gee wordpress accepts bitty bitty bit coins
Dec 12 15:42:16 <jcpham>	11111111!
Dec 12 15:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	<B0g4r7> What a comedy of compound errors. << lol! you mean just now ?!
Dec 12 15:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	jesus a lot happened in a few hours
Dec 12 15:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham wp is quite the scam. a domain costs like 30 usd through them
Dec 12 15:44:08 <jcpham>	that's ok
Dec 12 15:44:17 <jcpham>	i pay gandi a few hundred a year
Dec 12 15:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	o, speaking of nothing in particular, didja see http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc/ ?
Dec 12 15:44:45 <jcpham>	i did
Dec 12 15:44:53 <jcpham>	good idea
Dec 12 15:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7795 @ 0.00056421 = 4.398 BTC [-]
Dec 12 15:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	im curious if it gets started or no
Dec 12 15:46:02 <kakobrekla>	i know the people needed but prolly cant pay them enough
Dec 12 15:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla yeah. that guy suggesting formal proof is actually a very smart grad who could prolly do it, but... yeah.
Dec 12 15:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	unless it gets going it won't be possible tgo pay them
Dec 12 15:47:15 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham ahahaha! in your place i'd have just drilled the lock. well done.
Dec 12 15:50:09 <jcpham>	the funny thing is that I don't own that equipment
Dec 12 15:50:30 <jcpham>	the owners a) didn't try very hard to provide the key b) provided the wrong key after 2 weeks
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Dec 12 15:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Dec 12 15:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	barrel key locks aren't THAT good anyway
Dec 12 15:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	closer to playpretend than to security
Dec 12 16:04:20 <B0g4r7>	I'd heard you can just take a ballpoint pen apart and use the plastic body tube to open a barrel lock.
Dec 12 16:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	i saw it done
Dec 12 16:05:14 <B0g4r7>	Hm, interesting idea on the code reviewing service.
Dec 12 16:05:48 <B0g4r7>	One problem I see is that, to do a proper review, the reviewer should already possess a thorough understanding of the codebase.
Dec 12 16:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Dec 12 16:07:46 <B0g4r7>	Not understanding the history of the codebase, why things were done in the ways they were, the intent behind certain pieces, etc, it's hard to do a decent code review.
Dec 12 16:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	it seems to me the reverse : foreign eyes are unlikely to make the same mistaken assumptions
Dec 12 16:08:03 <B0g4r7>	Well, that's true too.
Dec 12 16:09:06 <B0g4r7>	I guess I'm picturing big complex projects that have a lot of big complex subsystems that all interact.
Dec 12 16:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	ya see, we're not qutioe there yet
Dec 12 16:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	for all the pretense BTC coding has trouble with race conditions and not keeping things in ramdisks
Dec 12 16:10:35 <B0g4r7>	So, like, if you already know what IMediaMessageModel does and is meant to be used for, it's easy to review a piece of code that uses it.
Dec 12 16:10:44 <mircea_popescu>	obviously the review service could grow with the BTC to the point it's a university in its own, 500+ tenured professors etc.
Dec 12 16:11:34 <B0g4r7>	Seems like it could have value though.  Especially for smaller codebases.
Dec 12 16:11:38 <midnightmagic>	wtf. another mining hashrate company with a pretend backing of 1 single bfl fpga?
Dec 12 16:11:47 <B0g4r7>	Or those that are more [properly] modularized.
Dec 12 16:12:09 <Ukto>	heya
Dec 12 16:12:12 <midnightmagic>	how the fuck many people are going to be suckered before they stop buying someone else's mining?
Dec 12 16:12:18 <Ukto>	anyone know what guruvan is smoking crack on my thread about?
Dec 12 16:12:27 <B0g4r7>	There's one born every minute.
Dec 12 16:12:29 <Ukto>	litecoinglobal "converting" ltc ot "ltcl" or something
Dec 12 16:12:53 <B0g4r7>	LTC Lite.  Won't full you up, never slows you down.
Dec 12 16:13:00 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 12 16:13:03 <Ukto>	"Check the home page on litecoinglobal.com - it clearly states that you convert LTC to LITS to use in the securities exchange game available on the site."
Dec 12 16:13:06 <jcpham>	ukto link
Dec 12 16:13:07 <Ukto>	I see nothing on that site...
Dec 12 16:13:09 <Ukto>	about convert anything
Dec 12 16:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	<midnightmagic> wtf. another mining hashrate company with a pretend backing of 1 single bfl fpga? << those won't go away lol.
Dec 12 16:13:31 <jcpham>	i should've made a mining asset
Dec 12 16:13:40 <jcpham>	at least my rigs have been running this whole time
Dec 12 16:13:42 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1394969#msg1394969
Dec 12 16:13:52 <midnightmagic>	$2500 invested?! how the hell do they ever expect to make their money back on just one single?!
Dec 12 16:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham in the end, it doesn't seem worth it.
Dec 12 16:13:55 <jcpham>	free capital for mining!
Dec 12 16:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	the biggest winner aka gigavps is mired down in his current legal crap and i doubt overall he has a net + to show for it
Dec 12 16:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	and all the rest of the losers made less than what their time's worth
Dec 12 16:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	such as PsychoticBoy's amuysing 3 btc a month "asset".
Dec 12 16:14:39 <midnightmagic>	his current legal crap?
Dec 12 16:14:55 <jcpham>	i could buy 3btc/day otc and call it an asset
Dec 12 16:15:07 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: to each their own, right? :P
Dec 12 16:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic isn't he stuck paying a lawyer to review documents ?
Dec 12 16:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto sure.
Dec 12 16:15:40 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I don't know. I didn't read anything about that on any of the channels I'm in.
Dec 12 16:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	o, well you're slightly behind.
Dec 12 16:16:07 <jcpham>	ukto litecoinglobal has soooo much text to read
Dec 12 16:16:14 <midnightmagic>	I guess so! Where should I be looking for this then? :-)
Dec 12 16:16:15 <jcpham>	I CTRL+F for LITS and found nana
Dec 12 16:16:20 <jcpham>	*nada
Dec 12 16:16:28 <mircea_popescu>	giga ended up trying to reconstruct the lists nefario gave ghim and verify them through having people submit info (ids, taxids, affidavits)
Dec 12 16:16:28 <B0g4r7>	lol giga
Dec 12 16:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	all this going to a lawyer in florida
Dec 12 16:16:43 <B0g4r7>	He's going ahead with the AML BS that Nef gave up on?
Dec 12 16:16:45 <midnightmagic>	whoah
Dec 12 16:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	right ?
Dec 12 16:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	no way that's not in five figures.
Dec 12 16:17:14 <midnightmagic>	affidavits and taxids?!
Dec 12 16:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Dec 12 16:17:21 <midnightmagic>	Is there a thread about that somewhere?
Dec 12 16:17:27 *	midnightmagic looks.
Dec 12 16:17:28 <jcpham>	not to be critical of anyone or thing (assets)
Dec 12 16:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	which caused people to thow a fit, esp since many are not in the us and it can cost a good chunk in the eu
Dec 12 16:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	apostiles and bs
Dec 12 16:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	read his own thread in btctalk
Dec 12 16:17:44 <jcpham>	i haven't attempted anything like this because i do not have the time for it
Dec 12 16:17:49 <Ukto>	jcpham: he said "it clearly states tthat you convert LTC to LITS" ... find says 'convert' is not on the page, neitehr is 'LITS'
Dec 12 16:17:53 <jcpham>	i'm not serious enough about this economy for it
Dec 12 16:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	that's a pity jcpham
Dec 12 16:18:08 <Ukto>	so I dont know what hes smoking
Dec 12 16:18:17 <jcpham>	at least i realize it though
Dec 12 16:18:24 <Ukto>	and burnside even ignored him
Dec 12 16:18:27 <jcpham>	i would need tiome to devote to managing an asset
Dec 12 16:18:37 <jcpham>	sounds like a job tbh
Dec 12 16:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	it is.
Dec 12 16:18:54 <jcpham>	maybe the part-timers should stop
Dec 12 16:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	in general the half-assers should stop
Dec 12 16:19:12 <jcpham>	that's my point
Dec 12 16:19:17 <jcpham>	at least i know i'm half-ass
Dec 12 16:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	not just btc. they should stop everything, fucking, going to school, ghoing to work, everything
Dec 12 16:19:24 <PsychoticBoy>	<mircea_popescu> such as PsychoticBoy's amuysing 3 btc a month "asset".<< it is only for fun not that I need to earn anything with it, I have a day time job
Dec 12 16:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	that's kinda what we were discussing
Dec 12 16:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	but i'm more interested in your response to deprived's post if any ?
Dec 12 16:20:05 <jcpham>	so PsychoticBoy admits his assets is a game
Dec 12 16:20:28 <jcpham>	not to make light of it
Dec 12 16:20:41 <PsychoticBoy>	its all for fun
Dec 12 16:20:45 <jcpham>	i just wonder how many more assets were games
Dec 12 16:21:03 <B0g4r7>	I think they have to be, to be more legal.
Dec 12 16:21:10 <PsychoticBoy>	It is also no lie, you get what I promise
Dec 12 16:21:12 <mircea_popescu>	probably most/all on glbse.
Dec 12 16:21:13 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Ah, I see. You're directly involved via an MPOE passthrough? Are you running the passthrough or just the exchange on which the passthrough operates?
Dec 12 16:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	there's a reason people keep whining about "easy to use"
Dec 12 16:21:26 <jcpham>	i'm not even saying it is a bad thing
Dec 12 16:21:26 <midnightmagic>	.. uh..  is it MPOE or MPEX these days?
Dec 12 16:21:47 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic the passthrough held some shares, it's been dissolved meanwhile. also look in the forum for discussion, it was a little dramatique
Dec 12 16:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	not quite to the level, but some
Dec 12 16:21:57 <midnightmagic>	also, tell your PR lady to ransom another boobs pic. :)
Dec 12 16:21:59 <mircea_popescu>	it's both. mpoe is the options trader.
Dec 12 16:22:01 <PsychoticBoy>	but I have to leave you guys, I have to work, later
Dec 12 16:22:08 <midnightmagic>	oh ok.
Dec 12 16:22:27 <jcpham>	"tits mcghee" aka mpoe-pr needs to show more boob
Dec 12 16:22:40 <jcpham>	maybe some side-boob
Dec 12 16:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 12 16:22:47 <jcpham>	something tasteful
Dec 12 16:22:53 <jcpham>	classy
Dec 12 16:22:54 <midnightmagic>	PsychoticBoy: You implied that there would be additional mining devices by using the plural "(`s)" in the original IPO.
Dec 12 16:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	need i remind everyone the forum failed to delivered when she offered to show pics ?
Dec 12 16:23:24 <jcpham>	i missed it
Dec 12 16:23:26 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Double down! :-) Wait how much were they ransom'd for?
Dec 12 16:23:33 <jcpham>	yeah for real link me
Dec 12 16:23:56 <jcpham>	did she want 100BTC
Dec 12 16:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	i don't even remember
Dec 12 16:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	it was early on, back when the howler hole thought it's too cool for her or something
Dec 12 16:24:27 <jcpham>	pornhub/brazzers guy got arrested for tax evasion yesterday
Dec 12 16:24:29 <jcpham>	iirc
Dec 12 16:24:31 <midnightmagic>	Waht's a howler-hole?
Dec 12 16:24:32 <mircea_popescu>	noway ?!
Dec 12 16:24:37 <jcpham>	true story
Dec 12 16:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic a place howlers gather.
Dec 12 16:25:00 <midnightmagic>	aw, boo. some of brazzer's porn was really good.
Dec 12 16:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	Amy Reid and Gina Lynn fuck arrested guy FFM
Dec 12 16:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	2nd hit for that search. true story too.
Dec 12 16:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic i routinely gave them as examples of really shitty porn lol
Dec 12 16:25:42 <jcpham>	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/11/fabian-thylman-arrested-pornhub-youporn-taxes_n_2276381.html
Dec 12 16:25:53 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: In the usual case. But rarely.. "some" of their stuff was fucking gold.
Dec 12 16:25:57 <midnightmagic>	pun intended.
Dec 12 16:26:00 <jcpham>	need to get in touch with him, tell him about bitcoin
Dec 12 16:26:01 <PsychoticBoy>	(s) says nothing,
Dec 12 16:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	like what ?!
Dec 12 16:26:21 <PsychoticBoy>	so I implied nothing, I never promised anything
Dec 12 16:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	"they're estimating his income in the hundred million range. personally I think they grossly underestimating it."
Dec 12 16:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	lmao idiot people. he's not making 100mn.
Dec 12 16:27:19 <PsychoticBoy>	theymos already said I wont get a Scammer Tag so Jeuk suck my ballz
Dec 12 16:27:35 <PsychoticBoy>	Jurek
Dec 12 16:27:37 <PsychoticBoy>	*
Dec 12 16:27:50 <B0g4r7>	google "just how big is youporn"
Dec 12 16:28:42 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 12 16:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	dood, youtube is bigger. does it make money nao ?
Dec 12 16:28:42 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 55 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <smickles> :o
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Dec 12 16:29:26 <jcpham>	well obviously you give away the free porn to drive traffic to the paysites
Dec 12 16:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	yaya
Dec 12 16:29:34 <jcpham>	but i dunno why anyone would pay for porn
Dec 12 16:29:36 <PsychoticBoy>	but now I really have to go, later dudes
Dec 12 16:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	paysites are making jack shit. 100mn was possible in the 90s not in 2012
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Dec 12 16:30:11 <jcpham>	i can't see anyone spending 29.95/month for porn vids anymore
Dec 12 16:30:22 <jcpham>	they'd need to be real twisted
Dec 12 16:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	or just not care about 30 bucks
Dec 12 16:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	i spend 20-30 dollars on pretty much any game i try on general principle.
Dec 12 16:31:02 <jcpham>	i'll spend 20-30 bucks on just about anything
Dec 12 16:31:06 <jcpham>	except porn it seems
Dec 12 16:36:28 <midnightmagic>	nice. Course he quit.
Dec 12 16:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	who ?
Dec 12 16:37:53 <midnightmagic>	Psychoboy
Dec 12 16:38:59 <midnightmagic>	That's such b-s. Nobody in their right fucking mind would pay for just one bfl single mining in perpetuity at $2500 per.
Dec 12 16:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	nobody in his right mind is on glbse.
Dec 12 16:39:42 <B0g4r7>	I thought an FPGA Single was $599...
Dec 12 16:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	or was, for that matter.
Dec 12 16:39:52 <midnightmagic>	And msg #4 in that thread doesn't say anything about how the current shareholders won't see any profit from a second bfl unit.
Dec 12 16:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 something like that.
Dec 12 16:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	<PsychoticBoy> theymos already said I wont get a Scammer Tag so Jeuk suck my ballz
Dec 12 16:40:39 <jcpham>	maybe he's bad at math.
Dec 12 16:41:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://nymag.com/news/features/70985/ re money in porn.
Dec 12 16:41:37 <midnightmagic>	It's just as misleading as goat was with his "hashrate" b-s which was really just an odds-less bet against difficulty going up.
Dec 12 16:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056651 = 2.4479 BTC [+]
Dec 12 16:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1188 @ 0.00056626 = 0.6727 BTC [-]
Dec 12 16:41:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21154 @ 0.00056625 = 11.9785 BTC [-]
Dec 12 16:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 305 @ 0.00056421 = 0.1721 BTC [-]
Dec 12 16:41:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4103 @ 0.00056309 = 2.3104 BTC [-]
Dec 12 16:41:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4085 @ 0.00056303 = 2.3 BTC [-]
Dec 12 16:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7974 @ 0.00056292 = 4.4887 BTC [-]
Dec 12 16:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8783 @ 0.00056112 = 4.9283 BTC [-]
Dec 12 16:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056341 = 2.4345 BTC [+]
Dec 12 16:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005631 = 2.4332 BTC [-]
Dec 12 16:42:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11286 @ 0.00056112 = 6.3328 BTC [-]
Dec 12 16:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6872 @ 0.00056027 = 3.8502 BTC [-]
Dec 12 16:43:00 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Ooo that's some good writing. I like it when they're poetic.
Dec 12 16:43:48 <B0g4r7>	I doubt any former glbse assets have "succeeded"
Dec 12 16:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ACOG] 650 @ 0.05713408 = 37.1372 BTC [+]
Dec 12 16:44:23 <B0g4r7>	As in produced a positive ROI for shareholders.
Dec 12 16:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic it's funny cause it's pot calling kettle black
Dec 12 16:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	as if writers are in any better shape than whores.
Dec 12 16:44:42 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 exactly one has.
Dec 12 16:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	smickles' mpoe.etf posted 1200% gains.
Dec 12 16:44:54 <B0g4r7>	lol, which?
Dec 12 16:44:58 <B0g4r7>	mm
Dec 12 16:45:03 <B0g4r7>	That's quite a gain.
Dec 12 16:45:05 <midnightmagic>	lol
Dec 12 16:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	over ~6 months
Dec 12 16:45:15 <B0g4r7>	Is that since listing?
Dec 12 16:45:15 <mircea_popescu>	it works out to about the same as pirate
Dec 12 16:45:20 <mircea_popescu>	6.8% a week or something
Dec 12 16:45:23 <midnightmagic>	What's smickles doing?
Dec 12 16:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	yeah over lifetime, was listed i think april dissolved early oct.
Dec 12 16:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic brokering mostly.
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Dec 12 16:45:52 <midnightmagic>	brokering what? other shares?
Dec 12 16:46:14 <mircea_popescu>	well ya
Dec 12 16:46:39 <midnightmagic>	I gotta talk to you more often I think..
Dec 12 16:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.068 ** 28
Dec 12 16:46:47 <gribble>	6.30950189886
Dec 12 16:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Dec 12 16:47:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ASBG] 400 @ 0.11396016 = 45.5841 BTC
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Dec 12 16:51:27 <jcpham>	smickles is the man
Dec 12 16:51:45 <jcpham>	my glbse haircut wasn't entirely as bad as i expected
Dec 12 16:52:07 <midnightmagic>	wtf man, still shaking my head at psychoboy.. I wonder if he has an -otc profile.
Dec 12 16:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=PsychoticBoy&sign=ANY&type=RECV
Dec 12 16:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol mostly usagi
Dec 12 16:53:58 <midnightmagic>	ElevatedDownfall
Dec 12 16:54:19 <jcpham>	borrows bitcoins
Dec 12 16:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	16913	Kelticfox	19	ElevatedDownfall	2012-12-08 12:20:17	8	Pleasure doing business again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again.
Dec 12 16:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	something tells me each again = 1..5 btc.
Dec 12 16:55:29 <jcpham>	;;rate ElevatedDownfall 3 has repaid [calc 6.3/7] of his BTC loan so far
Dec 12 16:55:30 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ElevatedDownfall has changed from 2 to 3.
Dec 12 16:55:41 <jcpham>	;;rated ElevatedDownfall
Dec 12 16:55:42 <gribble>	You rated user ElevatedDownfall on Wed Dec 12 13:55:29 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: has repaid 0.9 of his BTC loan so far.
Dec 12 16:56:24 <mircea_popescu>	you forgot the %
Dec 12 16:56:29 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu  All the transactions are in the blockchain and look legit.  None of the "UNKNOWN" status ones. Everything confirmed.
Dec 12 16:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	whoa ?!
Dec 12 16:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	nice, moar dividends.
Dec 12 16:57:16 <jcpham>	;;rate ElevatedDownfall 3 has repaid 6.3BTC of a 7BTC loan so far. No interest yet, either :(
Dec 12 16:57:20 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ElevatedDownfall has changed from 3 to 3.
Dec 12 16:57:31 <Bugpowder>	Some are listed as OVER MAX, when there were double 250BTC bets on the same address on the same magic number, but some of those were winners and some losers and I don't think they are counted
Dec 12 16:57:33 <kakobrekla>	how the fuck is that 3
Dec 12 16:57:42 <jcpham>	it's his third loan
Dec 12 16:57:47 <jcpham>	i'm being nice
Dec 12 16:57:50 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham whats "2x mad ninja loan repaymentation" ?
Dec 12 16:58:05 <jcpham>	that was repayment on the second loan
Dec 12 16:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	specifically the ninja loan term
Dec 12 16:58:23 <jcpham>	caffeine?
Dec 12 16:58:27 <jcpham>	too much of it
Dec 12 16:58:35 <Bugpowder>	So, S.DICE would pay out 14,500 BTC, 4.3% dividend this month, IF the month ended now.
Dec 12 16:58:37 <smickles>	< midnightmagic> What's smickles doing? << launching a bitcoin focused accounting company
Dec 12 16:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	sounds pretty sweet Buglouse
Dec 12 16:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	oops i mean Bugpowder
Dec 12 17:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 39 @ 0.12999995 = 5.07 BTC [-]
Dec 12 17:00:27 <Bugpowder>	Who would have thought all the futures action would be in soybeans and corn?
Dec 12 17:00:40 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: did you get that 'later tell' i sent you?
Dec 12 17:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	yeah and i answered!
Dec 12 17:01:34 <smickles>	oh, i need to notice things it seems
Dec 12 17:01:44 <smickles>	or i did't get a hilight near it :|
Dec 12 17:01:57 <Bugpowder>	oh sweet, someone is buying my gold futures.  I cut my prices on gold, nasdaq and crude.   The 2% insurance fee is going to hurt a bit though.
Dec 12 17:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	anyway : neither mpoe nor myself are mm'ing the new futures
Dec 12 17:02:49 <smickles>	ah, thanks for the re-answer
Dec 12 17:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	i guess bugpowder is lol
Dec 12 17:03:04 <Bugpowder>	ack!  youporn?!?
Dec 12 17:03:13 <Bugpowder>	I need to get home to read that article.
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Dec 12 17:08:25 <smickles>	jezus fuck data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAJoAAAAtCAIAAADZUuWNAAACtElEQVR4nO2b63KEMAiFodP3f2X6Y1dFkkBumkv5ptPR1tXIyYmEuEhE4CwNIhwi/o5tSSkIyHcJ/n1fRPz+JgKAn8GtcVpAFNsu58rwB6W7cwc+ih66upzrwzzqcm6Fy7kVLudWuJxb4XIuCGLqPy7napxloBgu51IEZSDB7DVbUaT97xBdKsbWTtydq3EvAwlczgVJr2m6nFvhcm7F7KmQzoOr2SJvXOSdDXfnVsznTmmLQc1Ykx3dma6Bbc92cqo1sOTxqV3lU/znabIvUSvny/eTiVUDix9z/qW0KzyH0kiVvdwZvAol4aERIcvpCh1RLqE00mIHOYnfplIDE6ER2utdoe9oFEh1zbj0RlqMl/Mep+
Dec 12 17:08:32 <smickles>	oh
Dec 12 17:08:33 <smickles>	bad paste
Dec 12 17:08:40 *	jcpham base64's it
Dec 12 17:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	did you paste a mpex graph ?
Dec 12 17:09:27 <smickles>	-_- yes
Dec 12 17:09:33 <smickles>	the mpoe one
Dec 12 17:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	it worked :D
Dec 12 17:11:20 <smickles>	;;calc 13.3903/[ticker --last]
Dec 12 17:11:24 <gribble>	0.984654007393
Dec 12 17:22:06 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: usagi is the guy who did the insurance policy for PsychoticBoy right? CPA or whatever?
Dec 12 17:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Dec 12 17:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	had all sorts of funny insurance going on
Dec 12 17:23:12 <midnightmagic>	And there he is in the scammer thread defending PsychoticBoy.
Dec 12 17:23:27 <midnightmagic>	Have these fucktards ever heard of the notion of conflict of interest?!
Dec 12 17:23:52 <midnightmagic>	How many knobs are being polished in one big circle-jerk, I wonder, but am not curious enough to bother finding out.
Dec 12 17:28:16 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic in general, if someone is flaming at mpoe-pr it's already a good indication he's part of the cj
Dec 12 17:28:27 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130343.msg1395366#msg1395366 take this fucktard for instance.
Dec 12 17:30:18 <kakobrekla>	um bitfinex is btc/usd only rite?
Dec 12 17:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	im not even sure
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Dec 12 17:33:19 <midnightmagic>	who's "killerstorm"?
Dec 12 17:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea.
Dec 12 17:34:13 <midnightmagic>	I'm unreasonably irritated at the notion that PsychoticBoy isn't going to get a scammer tag for that.
Dec 12 17:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	quite unreasonably.
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Dec 12 17:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	there's > 50 people who peeled the glbse muppets of a couple to a few hundred btc.
Dec 12 17:37:39 <midnightmagic>	When it's as blatant as PB?
Dec 12 17:38:03 <midnightmagic>	Revealed intent after the fact was that he sold $2500 of shares for an item that was $1300.
Dec 12 17:38:52 <midnightmagic>	That's fraud right there, because he never clarified. He used weasel words to suggest he was going to use the money to expand. He never actually said, "No, it's just for one single."
Dec 12 17:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Dec 12 17:39:18 <midnightmagic>	All those >50 people need scammer tags too if they're that blatant about it.
Dec 12 17:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	usagi doesn't have a tag either.
Dec 12 17:39:25 <midnightmagic>	He's not even defending the business plan.
Dec 12 17:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	in general, if it's not 10k btc + it seems hardly worth the hassle.
Dec 12 17:39:43 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think the scammer tags work.
Dec 12 17:39:46 <Ukto>	for your reading pleasure: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg1396057#msg1396057
Dec 12 17:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;google mpex rota
Dec 12 17:39:48 <gribble>	Introducing the MPEx Rota: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128397.0>; The MPEx Rota pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-mpex-rota/>; MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/category/mpex/>
Dec 12 17:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	you seen that midnightmagic ?
Dec 12 17:40:01 <midnightmagic>	Something about the nature of small-time thieves bothers me more than the pirate scam thing does.
Dec 12 17:40:19 <midnightmagic>	Rota? I don't think so.
Dec 12 17:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i don't think your arguments carry any water.
Dec 12 17:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	just because btc is open source game currency does not make it any less game currency.
Dec 12 17:43:20 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: "II.2. The Rota supersedes the jurisdiction of any other court, institution, group, organisation, corporation, reigning monarch, city fool etc." :-)
Dec 12 17:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	omg wtf is tumblr gone from the tubes ?!
Dec 12 17:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic hardcore btc supremacism :D
Dec 12 17:44:12 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: except that the games claims to have no monetary value, wheras his site does not claim bitcoins have no monetary value.
Dec 12 17:44:19 <Ukto>	*claim
Dec 12 17:44:20 <Ukto>	besides
Dec 12 17:44:35 <Ukto>	the biggest issue is just that hes trading actual corporate stock on his 'fake' site
Dec 12 17:44:44 <Ukto>	and contridicting the whole thing
Dec 12 17:47:09 <midnightmagic>	HAH "Even more, he was paying himself for the time that was required to pay himself"
Dec 12 17:48:52 *	midnightmagic hopes the developers themselves never turn out to be dirty scambags. That would really suck.
Dec 12 17:49:16 <midnightmagic>	.. thinking about it, it would be the quickest way to convince me to exit bitcoin.
Dec 12 17:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	whaty wouyld the devs matter
Dec 12 17:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto nobody has the authority to make such claims in bitcoin.
Dec 12 17:54:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00056539 = 8.4526 BTC [+]
Dec 12 17:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00056539 = 2.6573 BTC [+]
Dec 12 17:57:19 <Ukto>	which claims?
Dec 12 17:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00056028 = 0.5603 BTC [-]
Dec 12 17:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3671 @ 0.00056027 = 2.0568 BTC [-]
Dec 12 17:58:07 <Ukto>	that bitocin has no monetary value?
Dec 12 17:58:16 <Ukto>	youare 100% correct atthat
Dec 12 17:58:18 <Ukto>	at that. :)
Dec 12 17:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	that bitcoin HAS a monetary value.
Dec 12 17:59:05 <midnightmagic>	Purity of philosophical intent would be compromised.
Dec 12 17:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	the reason wow makes the claim it doesn't is because by not making it they'd claim the opposite
Dec 12 17:59:22 <Ukto>	right
Dec 12 17:59:52 <Ukto>	burnside can not claim BTC has no value (which is being traded for virtually realistic shares of his real corporation)
Dec 12 17:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	you seen the this http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/ ?
Dec 12 18:00:08 <Ukto>	I agree with you? on all points?
Dec 12 18:00:14 <mircea_popescu>	okay. well then...
Dec 12 18:00:24 <Ukto>	which of my comments am I now contridicting?
Dec 12 18:00:32 <Ukto>	i think that is where my confusion is comming from. :)
Dec 12 18:00:33 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure that you are
Dec 12 18:00:37 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 12 18:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	i'm just trying to see what you're sasying.
Dec 12 18:00:42 <Ukto>	alright lets go with that then :P
Dec 12 18:00:55 <Ukto>	I dont have apoitn sometimes
Dec 12 18:00:56 <Ukto>	just ramble
Dec 12 18:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Dec 12 18:01:00 <Ukto>	point*
Dec 12 18:01:02 <Ukto>	I try to though
Dec 12 18:01:20 <Ukto>	i think he was trying to justify his sites as the same as wow and secondlife
Dec 12 18:01:36 <Ukto>	and I was just pointing out they are very different animals
Dec 12 18:01:51 <mircea_popescu>	“Tubes are going to destroy our industry,” says Sunny Leone, 29, an Indian-American knockout who is celebrating eight nominations this evening. “Fans don’t understand that if they don’t pay for porn, we can’t make a living. They’ll have to watch crazy European porn.”
Dec 12 18:01:52 <Ukto>	when you compare their behaviours and actions side by side
Dec 12 18:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	AHAHAHAAaaa
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Dec 12 18:15:15 <pigeons>	;;google sunny leone pictures
Dec 12 18:15:16 <gribble>	Sunny Leone sells her adult pictures - Hindustan Times: <http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Tabloid/Sunny-Leone-sells-her-adult-pictures/Article1-912817.aspx>; Sunny Leone photos - Photobucket: <http://photobucket.com/images/sunny%20leone/>; Sunny Leone Profile - Photos, Wallpapers, Videos, News, Sunny ...: <http://www.in.com/sunny-leone/profile-1956905.html>
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Dec 12 18:16:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1468 @ 0.00336715 = 4.943 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:16:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1852 @ 0.00338189 = 6.2633 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:16:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 396680 @ 0.003395 = 1346.7286 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057053 = 2.4653 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12179 @ 0.00057082 = 6.952 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:21:02 <lyspooner>	is jurov around?
Dec 12 18:24:48 <kakobrekla>	probably, hes not straight.
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Dec 12 18:31:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005705 = 2.4651 BTC [-]
Dec 12 18:31:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2974 @ 0.00057082 = 1.6976 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	Berlin (Germany) - A German man became so frustrated at his computer that he threw it out of his window, and the police reaction was essentially "we understand".
Dec 12 18:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.tgdaily.com/business/32940-man-throws-his-computer-out-the-window-police-sympathize
Dec 12 18:32:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057397 = 2.4801 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:32:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00057416 = 3.4903 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 18:44:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.53866353 = 538.6635 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:44:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.62061168 = 620.6117 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:45:06 <kakobrekla>	meow https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.20
Dec 12 18:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00057416 = 10.5071 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1168 @ 0.00057416 = 0.6706 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9782 @ 0.00057483 = 5.623 BTC [+]
Dec 12 18:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think his legal advice is very good.
Dec 12 18:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	seems "met someone in a bar" nefario level.
Dec 12 18:48:55 <kakobrekla>	he is here i think
Dec 12 18:49:07 <kakobrekla>	perhaps he can elaborate
Dec 12 18:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057332 = 2.4773 BTC [-]
Dec 12 18:51:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14955 @ 0.00057313 = 8.5712 BTC [-]
Dec 12 18:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1623 @ 0.00056471 = 0.9165 BTC [-]
Dec 12 18:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	there really is insufficient drama
Dec 12 18:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	i was hoping for the bitmag stuff to bridge us over till the weekend and then maybe bfl stuff
Dec 12 18:52:19 <mircea_popescu>	but seriously, the first fizzled, the 2nd is like... meh...
Dec 12 18:53:28 <kakobrekla>	i just recooked old soup https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101081.msg1396080#msg1396080
Dec 12 18:53:57 <kakobrekla>	not enough for drama :\
Dec 12 18:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	better than mpex eh ?
Dec 12 18:54:15 <kakobrekla>	heheheh
Dec 12 18:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	baiter omg
Dec 12 18:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck liquidity med ?
Dec 12 18:55:08 <mircea_popescu>	what the hell, you telling me bit4x trades 10-100k btc a month nao ?!
Dec 12 18:55:54 <kakobrekla>	noone can do a serious dent in the book
Dec 12 18:56:15 <kakobrekla>	or any dent
Dec 12 18:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	o i c what you did there.
Dec 12 18:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	i guess you have a point eh.
Dec 12 18:56:51 *	mircea_popescu fumes
Dec 12 18:56:56 <kakobrekla>	:p
Dec 12 18:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130422.0
Dec 12 19:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty food
Dec 12 19:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	good*
Dec 12 19:00:22 <kakobrekla>	:D
Dec 12 19:04:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00056651 = 2.436 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/17830.html
Dec 12 19:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube re http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/3337/what-are-the-safety-guidelines-for-using-the-sign-message-feature/3339#3339
Dec 12 19:13:56 <mircea_popescu>	the simplest solution would maybe adding text reading : This not valid past X date, where X is maybe 24 hoursi n the future
Dec 12 19:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	this way a merchant would be pretty boneheaded to allow it. in conjunction with a "To be used exclusively on Y" it should do the trick.
Dec 12 19:14:31 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: ROFLOL
Dec 12 19:18:35 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube but yes it's why i've never used that method, only ;;eauth
Dec 12 19:20:13 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: yea the signed message bit could use some foolproofing.
Dec 12 19:20:39 <mircea_popescu>	im not even sure why have them when ;;eauth is there
Dec 12 19:20:44 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway
Dec 12 19:21:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.003395 = 9.8455 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 19:31:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13072 @ 0.00056887 = 7.4363 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00057059 = 5.7915 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.00057219 = 11.4724 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:31:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11778 @ 0.00057457 = 6.7673 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate Ukto 1 Bitfunder
Dec 12 19:32:07 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Ukto has been recorded.
Dec 12 19:33:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate kakobrekla 3 #bitcoin-assets, smpake, bit4x and so forth
Dec 12 19:33:08 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 2 to 3.
Dec 12 19:33:26 <kakobrekla>	awww
Dec 12 19:33:52 *	kakobrekla goes quickly back to coding so it doesnt slip back to 2
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Dec 12 19:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly
Dec 12 19:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate znort987 1 he's in the MPEx faq
Dec 12 19:34:55 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user znort987 has changed from 1 to 1.
Dec 12 19:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	much to my surprise kakobrekla is actually older than me
Dec 12 19:38:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00056651 = 0.0119 BTC [-]
Dec 12 19:38:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3681 @ 0.00056631 = 2.0846 BTC [-]
Dec 12 19:38:36 <kakobrekla>	what?!
Dec 12 19:38:45 <kakobrekla>	i dont think so.
Dec 12 19:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	im 2011-07
Dec 12 19:38:49 <mircea_popescu>	you're like -05
Dec 12 19:38:50 <kakobrekla>	ah
Dec 12 19:38:55 <kakobrekla>	otc.
Dec 12 19:38:56 <kakobrekla>	lol
Dec 12 19:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	yee
Dec 12 19:46:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7842 @ 0.00056903 = 4.4623 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057442 = 2.4821 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:46:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9822 @ 0.00057457 = 5.6434 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:46:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 406 @ 0.00057483 = 0.2334 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:48:14 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg1396316#msg1396316
Dec 12 19:48:15 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 12 19:48:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.53843543 = 538.4354 BTC [-]
Dec 12 19:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.62039873 = 620.3987 BTC [-]
Dec 12 19:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 12 19:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i don't think there's anything wrong with public discussion, leaves a record
Dec 12 19:50:21 <Ukto>	I just wanted to see if he will end it. :P
Dec 12 19:50:26 *	Ukto pokes burnside :P
Dec 12 19:50:51 <Ukto>	Would you could you, on a train? would you could you, please refrain? :P
Dec 12 19:51:01 <mod6>	haha
Dec 12 19:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.13522323 = 135.2232 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.18543554 = 185.4355 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.24475155 = 244.7516 BTC [-]
Dec 12 19:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005746 = 2.4828 BTC [-]
Dec 12 19:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3651 @ 0.00057483 = 2.0987 BTC [+]
Dec 12 19:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	eee 91k
Dec 12 19:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	curious if this will be a 6 digit month
Dec 12 19:59:06 <Ukto>	go go go
Dec 12 19:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3900 @ 0.003395 = 13.2405 BTC [+]
Dec 12 20:06:14 <Ukto>	burnside: I am still curious why the servers in panama and not the us or belize?
Dec 12 20:06:29 <Ukto>	esp. when you have your own hosting company
Dec 12 20:18:18 <burnside>	hola!
Dec 12 20:18:18 <burnside>	eh, belize didn't have any good options
Dec 12 20:18:18 <Ukto>	ooh NOW you talk
Dec 12 20:18:18 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 12 20:18:18 *	Ukto throws a bowling ball @ burnside
Dec 12 20:18:18 <Ukto>	I've been poking fun at you all day in here. :P
Dec 12 20:18:18 <burnside>	panama seemed at the time to have good connectivity and the boxes were cheap
Dec 12 20:18:18 <burnside>	I didn't want to expose the hosting company to the risk.
Dec 12 20:18:18 <Ukto>	ah
Dec 12 20:18:18 <Ukto>	wouldnt it just be another customer?
Dec 12 20:18:18 <burnside>	I could tell 'them' that.  Do you think they would belive me?
Dec 12 20:18:18 <Ukto>	or are you afriad your shareholdings would tie things together too much?
Dec 12 20:18:18 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 12 20:18:18 <Ukto>	hehe
Dec 12 20:18:18 <Ukto>	good call
Dec 12 20:18:19 <Ukto>	so you are worried about 'them' :P
Dec 12 20:18:19 <burnside>	nah, honestly, I went into this just wanting to code a cool site and sell it.
Dec 12 20:18:19 *	Ukto poke pokes
Dec 12 20:18:19 <burnside>	nobody bought, and I had already coded it.
Dec 12 20:18:19 <burnside>	now I have to run it.
Dec 12 20:18:19 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 12 20:18:19 <Ukto>	noithing like taking on another project you didnt want :P
Dec 12 20:18:19 <Ukto>	the css updates were nice tho
Dec 12 20:18:19 <burnside>	I have to grow it to where someone else thinks it's worth taking over.
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Dec 12 20:18:19 <Ukto>	well, just keep selling your shares at 200l each, and youll get there :P
Dec 12 20:18:19 <kakobrekla>	i hope people are aware of that
Dec 12 20:18:19 <burnside>	I was surprised how easy css3 makes it... it's been a while since I've done html/css stuff.
Dec 12 20:18:19 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: whats that?
Dec 12 20:18:19 <kakobrekla>	02:17.13 ( burnside ) I have to grow it to where someone else thinks it's worth taking over.
Dec 12 20:18:19 <kakobrekla>	that
Dec 12 20:18:19 <Ukto>	oh
Dec 12 20:18:19 <burnside>	I've been clear in many threads across many posts that we're looking for large investors to become involved.
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Dec 12 20:18:49 <burnside>	investors outside the US that are willing to do the AML share registration and be corporate officers, etc.
Dec 12 20:19:20 <kakobrekla>	and
Dec 12 20:19:21 <kakobrekla>	02:16.28 ( burnside ) nah, honestly, I went into this just wanting to code a cool site and sell it.
Dec 12 20:19:21 <kakobrekla>	that
Dec 12 20:19:34 <burnside>	yup, one leads into the other.
Dec 12 20:19:46 <burnside>	think for a second about how I get from (A) to (B)
Dec 12 20:20:11 <burnside>	(A) get investors, let them do the business pieces.  (B) I get to be the programmer and do the part that is fun for me.
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Dec 12 20:20:33 <Ukto>	did you skip A ?
Dec 12 20:20:37 <Ukto>	and endup at C?
Dec 12 20:20:47 <burnside>	I did.  :(
Dec 12 20:20:47 <Ukto>	er D? none of the above. lol
Dec 12 20:20:56 <burnside>	I did my part (B), and (A) never showed.
Dec 12 20:21:00 <burnside>	lol
Dec 12 20:21:21 <Ukto>	well, at least you got someone in belize to act as a local director
Dec 12 20:21:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9061 @ 0.00057483 = 5.2085 BTC [+]
Dec 12 20:21:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11418 @ 0.00057489 = 6.5641 BTC [+]
Dec 12 20:21:27 <burnside>	I'll keep doing my bit, and hopefully (A) will show.
Dec 12 20:21:38 <burnside>	yeah, we have a local director and local nominee shareholder.
Dec 12 20:22:31 <Ukto>	Although, wont Belize shut the corporation down eventually? Or is it a non profit?
Dec 12 20:22:56 <burnside>	I do have to file annual tax returns
Dec 12 20:23:01 <burnside>	not sure what the tax rate is.
Dec 12 20:23:31 <Ukto>	most countries require that a company has to show actual profits (Sometimes of amounts) within X years, or they shut down the corp and deem it as a hobby
Dec 12 20:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 400 @ 0.18676245 = 74.705 BTC [+]
Dec 12 20:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 600 @ 0.23601245 = 141.6075 BTC [+]
Dec 12 20:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 800 @ 0.29397906 = 235.1832 BTC [+]
Dec 12 20:24:15 <burnside>	Since the company itself will only be converting enough commodities to cover costs, I'm not super worried about it.
Dec 12 20:24:44 <burnside>	We will have to show a profit in 5 years, but that becomes an exercise to tackle in year 4.5.
Dec 12 20:24:54 <Ukto>	err
Dec 12 20:24:56 <Ukto>	thats different
Dec 12 20:25:04 <Ukto>	you said the company does not profit in currency
Dec 12 20:25:12 <Ukto>	"Further, we are not exchanging virtual goods for real currency.  So there is no exposure there either.  The company does not profit in currency. "
Dec 12 20:25:31 <Ukto>	So I was confused by that
Dec 12 20:25:59 <burnside>	well, there's right now.  there's tomorrow.  there's next month.  next year.  and 4.5 years from now.  which do you want?
Dec 12 20:26:06 <Ukto>	The commodity has a value, the govts generally want you to est. that value when you give it to people
Dec 12 20:26:17 <Ukto>	like in the US
Dec 12 20:26:22 <Ukto>	there is bartering value
Dec 12 20:26:28 <burnside>	that is true.  in the us you're supposed to track the bartering value
Dec 12 20:26:34 <Ukto>	i think you may have covered in the tax stuff with gigamining you said
Dec 12 20:26:44 <burnside>	yeah, discussed it a bit.
Dec 12 20:26:44 <Ukto>	when you give out a commodity to people
Dec 12 20:26:48 <Ukto>	it "has" a value
Dec 12 20:26:52 <Ukto>	and you are supposed to declare
Dec 12 20:27:00 <Ukto>	that with your businesses taxes, as an expense of sorts
Dec 12 20:27:23 <Ukto>	you can get that value easily, by taking the amounts held back and converted to currency
Dec 12 20:27:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 45815 @ 0.003395 = 155.5419 BTC [+]
Dec 12 20:27:32 <burnside>	you have to keep in mind that for BTC Trading Co, I have to approach taxes from the perspective of the Belize gov't.
Dec 12 20:27:45 <burnside>	For me personally, I have to approach taxes from the US gov't.
Dec 12 20:27:59 <burnside>	So yes, I will be reporting any profit on any crypto that I convert to USD.
Dec 12 20:28:07 <dub>	man I just got the shit shot out of me playing paintball
Dec 12 20:28:24 <dub>	including a point blank to the back of the head team kill
Dec 12 20:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;whois tumblr.com
Dec 12 20:28:36 <gribble>	Error: 'tumblr.com' is not a valid nick.
Dec 12 20:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, tumblr.com lost its dns ?
Dec 12 20:29:12 <dub>	tumblr.com has no A record
Dec 12 20:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	wtf ?
Dec 12 20:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	it happened like 3 hours ago
Dec 12 20:29:24 <dub>	not one fuck given
Dec 12 20:29:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 12 20:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57558871-93/tumblr-goes-dark-with-massive-outage/
Dec 12 20:30:02 <dub>	its just the a records too, ns/mx is fine
Dec 12 20:30:12 <dub>	which means pebcak
Dec 12 20:30:34 <dub>	and should take ~7 seconds to fix
Dec 12 20:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	they took it down
Dec 12 20:31:06 <mircea_popescu>	cause they prolly suck and gnaa
Dec 12 20:31:30 <dub>	they suck and gay nigger assoc of america?
Dec 12 20:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Dec 12 20:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	"when i use my picture viewer i can click through some pictures then my mouse turns into that little loading circle thing and wont go away and it gets like a grey tint over the picture. If i try using the task manager i try to end the program but it dosent go away and the x wont work either? and when i was using itunes i was playing a song and then i tried switching to another one and it started making a loud noise tha
Dec 12 20:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	t did not sound good and i couldnt shut down my computer at that point like the power button wouldnt even work and i had to take the battery out." this just for dub.
Dec 12 20:33:19 <dub>	think im growing another knee where I got hit at close range on the knee
Dec 12 20:33:37 <dub>	a purple and black version
Dec 12 20:33:47 *	dub hsould probably have worn long pants
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Dec 12 20:34:28 <dub>	mircea_popescu: wat?
Dec 12 20:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	pbkac
Dec 12 20:36:05 <dub>	i once worked internet helpdesk dude, you cant teach me about pebkac
Dec 12 20:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	i never did, but it amuses me to torment people with it
Dec 12 20:38:16 <mircea_popescu>	so basically btctalk nuked all bfl threads ?
Dec 12 20:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	nice.
Dec 12 20:38:28 <dub>	s/btctalk/diablo
Dec 12 20:38:50 <dub>	funnily I see more retardation in the engineering and security space than residential internet users
Dec 12 20:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	eh i dont thin khe gets to delete topicx
Dec 12 20:39:34 <dub>	[13:53] <Diablo-D3> I cleaned out all the bfl crap from the custom hardware forum
Dec 12 20:39:38 <dub>	13:53] <Diablo-D3> bfl can have one thread and thats it
Dec 12 20:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	eh
Dec 12 20:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	iirc there were a bunch in economy too
Dec 12 20:40:38 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 12 20:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol midnightmagic is active https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129941.msg1396040#msg1396040
Dec 12 20:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	a midnightmagic - usagi pit fight, i could watch that.
Dec 12 20:42:08 <midnightmagic>	did he answer me?
Dec 12 20:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	sort-of
Dec 12 20:42:45 <midnightmagic>	If he provided the insurance, he has no business commenting in there and vouching for Douchebag McDoucherson.
Dec 12 20:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	"All you mining hashrate-based companies were betting against your customers"
Dec 12 20:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	not only is this correct, but let's not forget the scam was actually initiated, proof-of-concepted and prototyped by that asshole meni rosenfeld
Dec 12 20:43:41 <midnightmagic>	Also, usagi would be crushed like an insect, were I a warlike individual. I am not, and so what would happen is, the crowd would yell "Fight" and I'd offer usagi some coffee and sit down for a game of cribbage.
Dec 12 20:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	who is possibly the brain behind half btc scams to date.
Dec 12 20:44:03 <midnightmagic>	Really?
Dec 12 20:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	yes really.
Dec 12 20:44:19 <mircea_popescu>	this is back early this year.
Dec 12 20:44:25 <midnightmagic>	I meant that as a querulous-but-interested question-mark.
Dec 12 20:44:39 <midnightmagic>	Did that person post a concept somewhere?
Dec 12 20:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	lemme see here
Dec 12 20:45:05 <midnightmagic>	Yeah, definitely should talk to you more..
Dec 12 20:45:11 <midnightmagic>	lol
Dec 12 20:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=65569.0
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Dec 12 20:45:54 <mircea_popescu>	this is the first coming in the open
Dec 12 20:46:11 <mircea_popescu>	then hk did something, then giga did his in april, then a bunch of smaller guys
Dec 12 20:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	jwu42 etc
Dec 12 20:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	including psychoticboy, ciuciu and the rest of the follower crowd
Dec 12 20:46:39 <dub>	anyone with an idea of costs to putting a dev or two under nda?
Dec 12 20:47:09 <dub>	I assume its fairly boilerplate stuff with a few lawyer hours required
Dec 12 20:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	cost as for the nda drafting or as to the dev signing ?
Dec 12 20:48:07 <dub>	shouldnt be any cost to making the dev sign?
Dec 12 20:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00057335 = 13.0724 BTC [-]
Dec 12 20:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaa
Dec 12 20:48:39 <mircea_popescu>	are you new ?
Dec 12 20:48:39 <dub>	job is under nda, take or leave mr dev
Dec 12 20:48:43 <dub>	yes, clearly
Dec 12 20:48:49 <dub>	hence the question
Dec 12 20:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	most devs that are any good won't sign a nda period.
Dec 12 20:49:02 <kakobrekla>	yup
Dec 12 20:49:03 <dub>	I don't get paid more when I sign NDAs
Dec 12 20:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	if they do you can probably expect a significant paycheck increase.
Dec 12 20:49:14 <mircea_popescu>	yes well, you're not a dev
Dec 12 20:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	problem with being a dev is that previous ndas tend to fuck you over when you start new projects
Dec 12 20:49:29 <dub>	well, I kinda am
Dec 12 20:49:35 <mircea_popescu>	in the case old employer wants to fuck over a start-up, he can
Dec 12 20:50:11 <dub>	it sorta comes with teh whole design engineer PD
Dec 12 20:50:25 <mircea_popescu>	well what can i tell you.
Dec 12 20:50:42 <midnightmagic>	Well, here's the thing. If the price is competitive, then ROI is possible.
Dec 12 20:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	the trick to making one acceptable is drafting it VERY narrowly
Dec 12 20:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	which is why you may need a decent lawyer and some time.
Dec 12 20:50:59 <dub>	im not asking how much I have to pay a de
Dec 12 20:51:08 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. 1k at a minimum.
Dec 12 20:51:10 <dub>	dev*
Dec 12 20:51:19 <dub>	oh, I was thinking 10's
Dec 12 20:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic honestly, i don't think any glbse user has any recourse for anything whatsoever. the contracts weren't even signed ffs (when they existed)
Dec 12 20:52:24 <mircea_popescu>	it was a joke through and through. so, they paid, they played the investors. the beer's drunk, the smoke's smoked, bye.
Dec 12 20:53:37 <midnightmagic>	Legitimizing preying on ignorance means that you legitmize preying on anyone. It presupposes that the only person who shouldn't be blamed for losing their own money is basically God.
Dec 12 20:54:25 <midnightmagic>	Therefore, any fraud, against anyone, no matter how obtuse they were with their money management, is wrong.
Dec 12 20:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	hey, i was never in favour of glbse
Dec 12 20:54:29 <midnightmagic>	:-)
Dec 12 20:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	whether you remember this or not.
Dec 12 20:54:34 <midnightmagic>	I remember it well.
Dec 12 20:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	but otherwise, it's what glbse was. legitimizing preying on ignorance
Dec 12 20:54:49 <mircea_popescu>	deliberately inflating unwarranted presumptions of the suckers
Dec 12 20:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Dec 12 20:54:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00057343 = 3.9567 BTC [+]
Dec 12 20:55:25 <midnightmagic>	You Europeans have a really dim view of the people you call "suckers" I'm learning.
Dec 12 20:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	fine. deliberately inflating unwarranted presumptions of innocent ignoramuses apt to believe something is true because 50 different screen names all "Agree"
Dec 12 20:56:43 <dub>	midnightmagic: derp
Dec 12 20:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	and the one pr two who say otherwise are "evil" because "different"
Dec 12 20:56:56 <midnightmagic>	dub: What now?
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Dec 12 20:58:08 <dub>	midnightmagic: there are a couple of primary assumptions that are qutie different in say america to many other places
Dec 12 20:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130492.0 << a fine example. people do not comprehend statistics. they're told so. they carry on.
Dec 12 20:58:20 <midnightmagic>	dub: I am not in "America".
Dec 12 20:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	oyesyouare!
Dec 12 20:58:31 <mircea_popescu>	canada is part of the us :D
Dec 12 20:58:39 <midnightmagic>	lol oookay.
Dec 12 20:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	you just don't get to vote is all.
Dec 12 20:58:59 <dub>	midnightmagic: one is 'that person walkign the other way down the street probably doesnt want to kill me and take my shit'
Dec 12 20:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	dub you ever been to pittsburgh ?
Dec 12 20:59:24 <midnightmagic>	dub: .. huh?
Dec 12 20:59:51 <dub>	in eastern europe in particular that would be assumed false afaik
Dec 12 21:00:05 <mircea_popescu>	not even.
Dec 12 21:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	dub : earlier today was someone at the gate. guess who ?
Dec 12 21:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	cabdriver i had used 3 days prior. he was returning a scarf some slut forgot in his car.
Dec 12 21:00:42 <dub>	someone not tryign to kill and steal from you?
Dec 12 21:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	"he would have come sooner but it's kinda far out so he waited for a ride close"
Dec 12 21:01:08 <midnightmagic>	dub: What a horrible way to live, in constant fear.
Dec 12 21:01:17 <dub>	mircea_popescu: out of heart kindness or fear of you guttin ghim?
Dec 12 21:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 12 21:01:25 <dub>	midnightmagic: derp :)
Dec 12 21:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	ten years ago i'd have agreed with you on he later score, but fact is nobody knows me here
Dec 12 21:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	it;'s just what cabdrivers do.
Dec 12 21:01:55 <dub>	not 'you'
Dec 12 21:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	i rly dun think it was guttin phobia.
Dec 12 21:02:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00057335 = 0.7454 BTC [-]
Dec 12 21:02:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00057137 = 6.2279 BTC [-]
Dec 12 21:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	and the last murder in this (300k pop) town was about 3 years ago
Dec 12 21:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	some guy found some other guy atop his wife.
Dec 12 21:04:46 <dub>	thats surprising
Dec 12 21:04:54 <dub>	anyway gotta tun
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Dec 12 21:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4684 @ 0.00057343 = 2.6859 BTC [+]
Dec 12 21:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3931 @ 0.00057489 = 2.2599 BTC [+]
Dec 12 21:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	tun means cannon in romanian which makes this sorta funny
Dec 12 21:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005715 = 2.4695 BTC [-]
Dec 12 21:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6279 @ 0.00057137 = 3.5876 BTC [-]
Dec 12 21:19:00 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 12 21:19:00 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 7 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;calc 13.3903/[ticker --last]
Dec 12 21:19:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 12 21:19:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.70000, Best ask: 13.70001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.70000, 24 hour volume: 38587.41290478, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.79989, 24 hour vwap: 13.61205
Dec 12 21:19:45 <midnightmagic>	oOOooo private mail.
Dec 12 21:19:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057462 = 2.4829 BTC [+]
Dec 12 21:19:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20040 @ 0.00057489 = 11.5208 BTC [+]
Dec 12 21:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13787 @ 0.00057512 = 7.9292 BTC [+]
Dec 12 21:20:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: would you ever put commodities on mpex
Dec 12 21:20:20 <thestringpuller>	say crude (for a brash example)
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Dec 12 21:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057169 = 2.4703 BTC [-]
Dec 12 21:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3021 @ 0.00057137 = 1.7261 BTC [-]
Dec 12 21:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17408 @ 0.00056705 = 9.8712 BTC [-]
Dec 12 21:27:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5251 @ 0.00057512 = 3.02 BTC [+]
Dec 12 21:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2170 @ 0.00057582 = 1.2495 BTC [+]
Dec 12 21:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	well there's a future
Dec 12 21:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker X.EWTI
Dec 12 21:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.EWTI] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.06666667 / 0.06678667 / 0.066794 (1061 shares, 70.86 BTC)
Dec 12 21:34:37 <thestringpuller>	future on what btc?
Dec 12 21:34:57 <thestringpuller>	why not sell cotton futures or gen food futures
Dec 12 21:35:03 <thestringpuller>	be evil like monsanto
Dec 12 21:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	there's an entire list.
Dec 12 21:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	see here : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/futures-on-mpex/
Dec 12 21:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	there's no cotton but there's cocoa, wheat and corn
Dec 12 21:35:46 <mircea_popescu>	and cattle
Dec 12 21:37:00 <thestringpuller>	these are good futures
Dec 12 21:37:11 <thestringpuller>	what's the minimum put down for a bond?
Dec 12 21:37:19 <thestringpuller>	well minimum 'buy-in'
Dec 12 21:37:29 <thestringpuller>	mpoe bond
Dec 12 21:43:20 <smickles>	mpoe bond? like MPBOR?
Dec 12 21:43:23 <smickles>	100btc
Dec 12 21:44:19 <thestringpuller>	someone should create a bond share
Dec 12 21:44:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056751 = 2.4522 BTC [-]
Dec 12 21:44:45 <thestringpuller>	get a bunch of people together to put money into MPBOR
Dec 12 21:44:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19179 @ 0.0005672 = 10.8783 BTC [-]
Dec 12 21:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	100
Dec 12 21:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	that may be something to do, since it takes a little skill to use
Dec 12 21:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	(pick an optimum % etc)
Dec 12 21:49:31 <thestringpuller>	i would need investors
Dec 12 21:49:36 <thestringpuller>	and I hate talking to people
Dec 12 21:50:05 <smickles>	only one or two people actually seem to talk to the organizer of such things
Dec 12 21:50:19 <thestringpuller>	i'm just going to buy futures in energy
Dec 12 21:50:35 <thestringpuller>	i would have to create some account with a third party like you smickles
Dec 12 21:50:51 <thestringpuller>	and I'd have to get people to give you money to put in that account to put into MPBOR
Dec 12 21:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	why can;t' you just make a mpex acct ?
Dec 12 21:51:21 <thestringpuller>	Cause I'm lazy
Dec 12 21:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Dec 12 21:51:47 *	thestringpuller <- American
Dec 12 21:51:57 <Ukto>	<- Ameriwon't
Dec 12 21:52:15 <thestringpuller>	berry punny :P
Dec 12 21:52:27 <thestringpuller>	the energy market has been weird
Dec 12 21:52:39 <thestringpuller>	usually gas skyrockets every winter but this winter it didn't
Dec 12 21:54:58 <Ukto>	tooo much en queue
Dec 12 21:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	"For what it's worth, I think bASIC should also have a scammer tag. I don't get how they had a working prototype and suddenly have no design."
Dec 12 21:55:11 <Ukto>	my family ownes mineral rights to alot of natural gas wells around texas etc
Dec 12 21:55:23 <Ukto>	if NG is not in demand
Dec 12 21:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's a pretty good q right there. how the f ?!
Dec 12 21:55:28 <Ukto>	they basically shut the wells down
Dec 12 21:55:36 <Ukto>	so when winter comes
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Dec 12 21:55:45 <Ukto>	there are so many wells ready to pump, theres not enough demand
Dec 12 21:59:43 <PsychoticBoy>	Hi hows life
Dec 12 22:00:05 <PsychoticBoy>	I just decorated my christmas tree
Dec 12 22:00:26 <Ukto>	sweet
Dec 12 22:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057015 = 2.4636 BTC [+]
Dec 12 22:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12096 @ 0.00056992 = 6.8938 BTC [-]
Dec 12 22:00:41 <PsychoticBoy>	thought so too
Dec 12 22:00:58 <Ukto>	not doign a tree this year
Dec 12 22:01:00 <Ukto>	waiting until next
Dec 12 22:01:04 <Ukto>	when the youngest is 3
Dec 12 22:01:09 <Ukto>	then ima piss teh wife off
Dec 12 22:01:12 <Ukto>	and get a flocked tree
Dec 12 22:01:13 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 12 22:01:30 <Ukto>	(the ones that have been sprayed with teh white shit)
Dec 12 22:01:58 <mircea_popescu>	ukto -> pm
Dec 12 22:05:41 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Dec 12 22:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8183 @ 0.00056959 = 4.661 BTC [-]
Dec 12 22:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2817 @ 0.00057277 = 1.6135 BTC [+]
Dec 12 22:20:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057193 = 2.4713 BTC [-]
Dec 12 22:20:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13670 @ 0.00057203 = 7.8197 BTC [+]
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Dec 12 22:28:43 <PsychoticBoy>	I have bought a big spoon
Dec 12 22:29:06 <PsychoticBoy>	for the shit stirrers to stir the f*cking shit
Dec 12 22:29:29 <PsychoticBoy>	omg I hate those drama queens
Dec 12 22:35:23 <Graet>	i hear ya
Dec 12 22:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056744 = 2.4519 BTC [-]
Dec 12 22:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1171 @ 0.0005672 = 0.6642 BTC [-]
Dec 12 22:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9108 @ 0.0005668 = 5.1624 BTC [-]
Dec 12 22:36:28 <Ukto>	man.. I stop posting.. and the fourms go silent :P
Dec 12 22:36:49 <Namjies>	It's an illusion... but so long as you don't hear it.
Dec 12 22:37:21 *	Ukto shakes a fist at Namjies... why did you have to shut down! :P
Dec 12 22:37:29 <Ukto>	prolly would not have picked BF anywho tho
Dec 12 22:37:58 <Namjies>	By the way, I still lack 72 BTC funding for my loan. Anyone interested to lend me till the 10th of January?
Dec 12 22:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.0005668 = 8.2469 BTC [-]
Dec 12 22:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	ima make so much money by diff not going over 9000 next year...
Dec 12 22:41:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000572 = 2.4716 BTC [+]
Dec 12 22:41:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 230 @ 0.00057203 = 0.1316 BTC [+]
Dec 12 22:41:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00057288 = 5.2705 BTC [+]
Dec 12 22:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10356 @ 0.00057305 = 5.9345 BTC [+]
Dec 12 22:41:56 <Namjies>	Is that your impression of people mass buying ASICs?
Dec 12 22:43:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00056684 = 1.8989 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 22:48:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 971 @ 0.00056684 = 0.5504 BTC [-]
Dec 12 22:48:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7242 @ 0.0005668 = 4.1048 BTC [-]
Dec 12 22:49:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13487 @ 0.00056631 = 7.6378 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 22:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057202 = 2.4717 BTC [+]
Dec 12 22:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5579 @ 0.00057233 = 3.193 BTC [+]
Dec 12 22:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057229 = 2.4729 BTC [-]
Dec 12 22:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17610 @ 0.00057233 = 10.0787 BTC [+]
Dec 12 22:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2269 @ 0.00057305 = 1.3003 BTC [+]
Dec 12 22:59:22 <jcpham>	http://jcpham.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/cropped-logo-jcph-am.png
Dec 12 22:59:41 <jcpham>	sexy. also learned everytime i edit i spam twitter
Dec 12 23:00:43 *	Ukto auto edits jcpham
Dec 12 23:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies well, back in june it was gonna be october
Dec 12 23:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	then it was gonna be now and now it's gonna be january... it ain't happening
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Dec 12 23:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056639 = 2.4474 BTC [-]
Dec 12 23:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8294 @ 0.00056631 = 4.697 BTC [-]
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Dec 12 23:20:31 <Namjies>	Well on a sidenote, GLBSE giving out info wasn't happening either...
Dec 12 23:20:44 <Namjies>	Although it was also a possibility
Dec 12 23:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	haha i guess so
Dec 12 23:20:56 <Namjies>	Seems it's going to be partial info so far.
Dec 12 23:21:17 <Namjies>	Well it's either not happening or getting at least screwed up somewhat.
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Dec 12 23:27:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056643 = 2.4475 BTC [+]
Dec 12 23:27:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14388 @ 0.00056631 = 8.1481 BTC [-]
Dec 12 23:27:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9291 @ 0.00056471 = 5.2467 BTC [-]
Dec 12 23:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00056793 = 10.8475 BTC [+]
Dec 12 23:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6536 @ 0.00056471 = 3.6909 BTC [-]
Dec 12 23:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11214 @ 0.00056203 = 6.3026 BTC [-]
Dec 13 00:00:18 <dub>	where is th elatest from bfl
Dec 13 00:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22416 @ 0.00056203 = 12.5985 BTC [-]
Dec 13 00:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 784 @ 0.00056193 = 0.4406 BTC [-]
Dec 13 00:04:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00056193 = 8.3166 BTC [-]
Dec 13 00:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10178 @ 0.00056589 = 5.7596 BTC [+]
Dec 13 00:23:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1504 @ 0.00056276 = 0.8464 BTC [-]
Dec 13 00:23:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17096 @ 0.00056293 = 9.6239 BTC [+]
Dec 13 00:43:03 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129941.msg1396770
Dec 13 00:43:09 <mircea_popescu>	the plot thickens
Dec 13 00:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056226 = 2.4295 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 00:52:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 366 @ 0.00056193 = 0.2057 BTC [-]
Dec 13 00:52:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2687 @ 0.0005618 = 1.5096 BTC [-]
Dec 13 00:53:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 913 @ 0.00056222 = 0.5133 BTC [+]
Dec 13 00:59:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15966 @ 0.00056222 = 8.9764 BTC [+]
Dec 13 00:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 404 @ 0.00056293 = 0.2274 BTC [+]
Dec 13 01:02:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10055 @ 0.00056126 = 5.6435 BTC [-]
Dec 13 01:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00056126 = 6.3703 BTC [-]
Dec 13 01:11:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3145 @ 0.00056126 = 1.7652 BTC [-]
Dec 13 01:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12555 @ 0.00056121 = 7.046 BTC [-]
Dec 13 01:21:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056269 = 2.4314 BTC [+]
Dec 13 01:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11879 @ 0.00056293 = 6.687 BTC [+]
Dec 13 01:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6071 @ 0.00056293 = 3.4175 BTC [+]
Dec 13 01:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 629 @ 0.00056497 = 0.3554 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 01:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17871 @ 0.00056497 = 10.0966 BTC [+]
Dec 13 01:53:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1355 @ 0.00056589 = 0.7668 BTC [+]
Dec 13 01:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15219 @ 0.00056592 = 8.6127 BTC [+]
Dec 13 02:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7581 @ 0.00056592 = 4.2902 BTC [+]
Dec 13 02:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00056907 = 2.3616 BTC [+]
Dec 13 02:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 809 @ 0.00057002 = 0.4611 BTC [+]
Dec 13 02:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056133 = 2.4255 BTC [-]
Dec 13 02:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6332 @ 0.00056121 = 3.5536 BTC [-]
Dec 13 02:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18548 @ 0.00056093 = 10.4041 BTC [-]
Dec 13 02:17:26 <dub>	I dont really understand, was PGM a 1mh/s bond (or nMh/s)?
Dec 13 02:17:46 <dub>	if it was then midnightmagic is forgetting that for a while there was a healthy market for them
Dec 13 02:18:22 <dub>	a lot of people got in because a) it was a way to make a bit out of your idle btc and b) you could sell them again for ~what you paid
Dec 13 02:19:51 <dub>	of course we knew there was a multi-year payback on them if you held on to them that long
Dec 13 02:20:20 <dub>	is it a scam because some kind of mentally challenged people couldnt work that out?
Dec 13 02:22:08 <dub>	(same as buying hardware yourself)
Dec 13 02:22:26 <pigeons>	i agree i don't think that makes them scams in themselves. Is bitcoin a scam because if you buy a gpu/fpga/asic diff is likely to go up and you are unlikely to break even?
Dec 13 02:22:57 <dub>	aparently it is
Dec 13 02:23:29 <dub>	whats confusing me is how 1 BFL single = 1000 bonds
Dec 13 02:23:36 <pigeons>	you may look at the market conditions and decide a mh/s bond is a bad deal and not buy one, but if you buy one based on factors, even if price, diff, etc change you weren't scammed
Dec 13 02:23:40 <dub>	maybe I dont know what PGM was
Dec 13 02:23:59 <pigeons>	yeah i'm not commenting on the specifics of this issue cause i don't know them
Dec 13 02:25:36 <dub>	sure the mh/s bond issuers get a chunk of capital up front but they also have to keep paying out indefinitely
Dec 13 02:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3853 @ 0.00334928 = 12.9048 BTC [-]
Dec 13 02:26:45 <dub>	unless nefario of course
Dec 13 02:27:36 <pigeons>	yeah, and maintainence/cooling was harder work with gpus
Dec 13 02:28:05 <thestringpuller>	what's it called
Dec 13 02:28:09 <thestringpuller>	moore's law?
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Dec 13 02:32:13 <dub>	ok I read the PGM contract
Dec 13 02:32:30 <dub>	its not a mh/s bond its 100% pure retardation
Dec 13 02:32:46 <dub>	anyone that bought that deserves to lose thier monney tbh
Dec 13 02:33:10 <dub>	;;calc 820/1000
Dec 13 02:33:11 <gribble>	0.82
Dec 13 02:33:56 <dub>	they bought %75 of a .82mh/s bond donating the other 25% to the operator
Dec 13 02:34:16 <dub>	for 0.25btc
Dec 13 02:35:25 <dub>	that I don't recognise it suggests it was late in game, when th efloodgates opened and 1mh/s was going for <.2btc
Dec 13 02:35:40 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Dec 13 02:35:48 <Chaang-Noi>	people reading contracts? lol
Dec 13 02:36:01 <Chaang-Noi>	you expect way to much from the average bitcoiner
Dec 13 02:36:10 <dub>	people that bought this were too busy drooling on thier shoes to read
Dec 13 02:36:25 <Chaang-Noi>	:) as we say in thailand som nam na
Dec 13 02:40:26 <dub>	I guess if psychoticboy "bought" this knowing that people thought it was a mh/s bond then he is a scammer
Dec 13 02:41:01 <dub>	or a scumbag at best, its like stealing candy from babies
Dec 13 02:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19653 @ 0.00056583 = 11.1203 BTC [+]
Dec 13 02:48:16 <dub>	regardless midnightmagic is maintaining all mh/s bonds were/are a scam
Dec 13 02:57:31 <dub>	Fjordbit ftw
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Dec 13 03:01:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4347 @ 0.00056583 = 2.4597 BTC [+]
Dec 13 03:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11338 @ 0.00056572 = 6.4141 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8615 @ 0.00056435 = 4.8619 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056912 = 2.4592 BTC [+]
Dec 13 03:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2379 @ 0.00056946 = 1.3547 BTC [+]
Dec 13 03:08:20 <midnightmagic>	dub: It is *not* the same as buying your own hardware. If you had control of the income, you could use the returns to grow your mining operation and thus grow and (attempt to) keep up with the difficulty increases. You are demonstrating tribal signalling, and sociopathic lack of concern for people who were misled, deliberately, by lies of omission.
Dec 13 03:09:07 <midnightmagic>	It's ABM I have a problem with. 4x the price of a BFL Single FPGA. 4x.
Dec 13 03:09:55 <midnightmagic>	dub: You don't understand anything about exponential growth curves. The difficulty increases *guarantee* that mining bonds and/or shares that are 4x the cost of normal mining equipment *will fail*.
Dec 13 03:10:01 <midnightmagic>	Like period.
Dec 13 03:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005644 = 2.4388 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10985 @ 0.00056435 = 6.1994 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:10:34 <midnightmagic>	NOBODY deserves to lose their money. If that is the case, then it must be so that ALL people who are defrauded deserve to lose their money.
Dec 13 03:10:49 <midnightmagic>	fraud is fraud. It's quite simple.
Dec 13 03:12:19 <midnightmagic>	dub: Almost all of them were pure frauds, especially those that sold, absent upgrade programs or growth possibilities, and pocketed the overages.
Dec 13 03:13:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1997 @ 0.00334928 = 6.6885 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:13:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1803 @ 0.00335085 = 6.0416 BTC [+]
Dec 13 03:19:53 <Ukto>	I am confused by what you are saying midnightmagic
Dec 13 03:20:01 <Ukto>	if I buy into a 1mh/share setup right now
Dec 13 03:20:08 <Ukto>	and they have not already paid to ugpade to asics
Dec 13 03:20:12 <Ukto>	wont I get screwed rather quickly?
Dec 13 03:20:24 <Ukto>	never to see even a small % roi ?
Dec 13 03:20:55 <dub>	midnightmagic: I bought a bunch of mining bonds
Dec 13 03:22:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005622 = 2.4293 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6919 @ 0.00056221 = 3.8899 BTC [+]
Dec 13 03:22:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00056599 = 4.6977 BTC [+]
Dec 13 03:22:34 <dub>	I did it because it was a way to earn dividends on my btc that was otherwise doing nothing
Dec 13 03:23:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold some 1 mhs bonds ages ago and had no plan to upgrade. the contract had nothing about upgrading, i dont see why i should be forced to.
Dec 13 03:23:08 <Ukto>	I mean.. the ROI on most any mining share is like 1 years +++
Dec 13 03:23:08 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not force anyone to buy the bonds.
Dec 13 03:23:23 <Ukto>	only an idiot would demand to get a payoff
Dec 13 03:23:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think minning shares are really a good idea
Dec 13 03:23:26 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: You will get screwed extremely quickly if you are paying as much as that one magical BFL single was worth.
Dec 13 03:23:27 <Ukto>	esp w/o the market in place
Dec 13 03:23:35 <dub>	I mostly paid between 1 and 1.5 btc for giga and ~.30 for 1mhs bonds
Dec 13 03:23:39 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: who set the price?
Dec 13 03:23:45 <Ukto>	and who paid it?
Dec 13 03:24:08 <Chaang-Noi>	all sorts of asics will make the demand go crazy, also gigas mining is only going to be worth something assuming BFL has the best asics... if not he will die off soon enough as well
Dec 13 03:24:37 <Ukto>	dub: same I paid about .3 for my bonds
Dec 13 03:25:09 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: It was a bet against the customers with odds that were hidden to them. Yes, IMO, your hashrate sells were equally scammy; however, I do not think in your case it was a malicious intent. I have never been able to get consistent evidence of what sort of person you are, so I am reserving judgement and simply assuming the best.
Dec 13 03:25:18 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: For ABM? PsychoBoy did.
Dec 13 03:25:30 <dub>	it was a market for defined mining capacity, I preferred that to mining 'companies' with 10-25% operating 'fees' with some vague idea about buying more hardware when they got enough money together
Dec 13 03:26:05 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: are we talking about the reslisting for ABM?
Dec 13 03:26:05 <dub>	midnightmagic: how were the odds hidden to me?
Dec 13 03:26:10 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: It was 0.25 BTC each for 1000 shares, for a $599 BFL single FPGA. At least I think they were $599 ea.
Dec 13 03:26:43 <Ukto>	I thought we were talking about PGM
Dec 13 03:27:26 <midnightmagic>	Anyway that's 250BTC, or $2500 at then-prices. As far as I can tell. And he intimated in the ABM thread that he was going to use the money to expand. He never clarified he wasn't going to do that, even when people asked him straight-out. He misled them with the plural use of (`s) in the IPO announcement thread.
Dec 13 03:27:34 <Chaang-Noi>	midnightmagic it could have gone either way for me. but i was betting against the customer, some one could have one and there was no way to know. however this is why i only sold such a small number, i wanted to be able to cover assuming i lost my ass...
Dec 13 03:27:36 <dub>	midnightmagic: im not talking about the .82mhs bond with 25% 'fees', thats clearly never going to be a good idea
Dec 13 03:28:04 <Ukto>	wow guys
Dec 13 03:28:09 <Ukto>	i should get outof this, I am clearly confused
Dec 13 03:28:17 <Ukto>	I thought all the comotion was over PGM
Dec 13 03:28:31 <Ukto>	I have no idea why ABM is having an issue now, esp being relisted
Dec 13 03:29:01 <dub>	Ukto: It seems like midnightmagic is saying all the fixed mh bonds were scams too, because roi took too long or something
Dec 13 03:29:14 <Ukto>	of course they took too long
Dec 13 03:29:17 <Ukto>	mining doesnt pay that much
Dec 13 03:29:20 <Ukto>	per MH
Dec 13 03:29:32 <Ukto>	even the best bond
Dec 13 03:29:32 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: Since the odds against the difficulty increasing were so small, the odds were thus stacked well in your favour. At that point it became a question of how much the hashrate itself was selling for, and how much the profit calculation was being used. In your case, as I understand it, there was never any hardware. Thus is was a pure bet. I'm fairly sure that Meni's original idea for hashrate-based bonds still had
Dec 13 03:29:37 <Ukto>	was 8months
Dec 13 03:29:38 <midnightmagic>	actual equipment backing it.
Dec 13 03:29:40 <Ukto>	full pass through
Dec 13 03:29:47 <Chaang-Noi>	its like mining in general is a bad investment... im not sure anyone makes money in the long term mining unless they have free or cheap power
Dec 13 03:29:56 <midnightmagic>	dub: I am primarily talking about ABM, not PGM. PGM is scammy for other reasons.
Dec 13 03:30:03 <Ukto>	no moron bought mining bonds to turn ROI
Dec 13 03:30:13 <Ukto>	they bought the bonds to earn interest off of already had BTC
Dec 13 03:30:16 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: I made money on it. I'm well ahead..
Dec 13 03:30:19 <dub>	Ukto: sure they did, if you held for a few years
Dec 13 03:30:20 <Ukto>	hopinng that when they sell it back, they wont loose their ass
Dec 13 03:30:31 <Ukto>	dub: they wouldnt be worth anything in a few years
Dec 13 03:30:47 <dub>	Ukto: uh, but they would have paid for themselves?
Dec 13 03:30:52 <Ukto>	everyone knew fpga's were comming, and came, and quickly lowering the value, and asics were comming soon, as well as halfreward
Dec 13 03:30:53 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: That's just an expensive game of hot potato then..
Dec 13 03:30:54 <dub>	in dividends
Dec 13 03:31:08 <dub>	midnightmagic: you know these things paid dividends right?
Dec 13 03:31:20 <midnightmagic>	FPGA initial investment wasn't a pressure against gpu; they weren't around long enough to make the lower power dominate the returns.
Dec 13 03:31:21 <dub>	usually equal to the output of nMh/s
Dec 13 03:31:24 <Chaang-Noi>	midnighmagic the bonds were not back up by hardware in the contract but i did back up about 50% of it with my own hardware. all i did was list a product and people who wanted to bet or hedge with me, i let them. free market.
Dec 13 03:31:27 <Ukto>	dub: at 0.3btc per JAH share I bought back in May
Dec 13 03:31:32 <Ukto>	I had almost a 2yr roi
Dec 13 03:31:57 <dub>	Ukto: and what was ROI on a 6990 with average power pricing?
Dec 13 03:32:03 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: Did you tell them it wasnt fully backed-up by hardware?
Dec 13 03:32:04 <Ukto>	assuming fpga sales kept to a minima, no asic, and no halfreward
Dec 13 03:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3660 @ 0.0005667 = 2.0741 BTC [+]
Dec 13 03:32:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00056094 = 2.2438 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13452 @ 0.00056093 = 7.5456 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:32:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4488 @ 0.00056075 = 2.5166 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:32:23 <Ukto>	dub: including motherboard, case, powersupply, and electricity usage?
Dec 13 03:32:32 <Chaang-Noi>	midnightmagic to anyone who asked i did tell them. however i never claind it was back up, the contract was pretty clear how it worked.
Dec 13 03:32:33 <Ukto>	and cooling
Dec 13 03:32:41 <Ukto>	well thts electricity
Dec 13 03:32:41 <Ukto>	either way
Dec 13 03:32:44 <dub>	yeah obviously
Dec 13 03:32:44 <Chaang-Noi>	claimed*
Dec 13 03:32:59 <dub>	all that stuff is a cost that needs covering
Dec 13 03:33:06 <Ukto>	dub: yes it is...
Dec 13 03:33:26 <Ukto>	dub: I am not trying to argue.. not even sure whos saying what anymore.. :P
Dec 13 03:33:43 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: That is omission; additionally, I view you as smart enough to know that people were buying it under the assumption that it was fully backed by hardware. If that is so, then you were doing it knowingly.
Dec 13 03:33:45 <dub>	Ukto: I think we might be agreeing
Dec 13 03:34:06 <dub>	Ukto: though my point is, who cars if the bond is worth essentially nothign if its paid for itself
Dec 13 03:34:16 <Chaang-Noi>	why should i assume they assumed it was back by hardware? as long as i paid as the contract siad why does it matter?
Dec 13 03:34:20 <dub>	and you saved yourself the heat noise and hassle
Dec 13 03:34:24 <midnightmagic>	Exactly! If it's paid for itself. How can it pay for itself when it's designed to fail?
Dec 13 03:34:34 <Ukto>	I am just sticking to my guns that anyone who bought mining bonds with a 1+yr roi, and expected to earn 100% back w/o ever selling the shares at market price was a dumbass, since there were more factors to consider
Dec 13 03:34:53 <Ukto>	dub: oh, i see what you are saying
Dec 13 03:34:55 <Ukto>	greedy ppl
Dec 13 03:34:56 <Ukto>	they care
Dec 13 03:35:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i made sure i would not default...   having hardware where i live is meaningless as the electric costs are too high...
Dec 13 03:35:02 <dub>	oh right
Dec 13 03:35:07 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: Because if you did it knowingly and did not correct their misconceptions, especially since you were answering them truthfully in private (thus knowing that there was confusion) then that is deception.
Dec 13 03:35:13 <Chaang-Noi>	having to buy the hardware would have put me at risk of defaulting...
Dec 13 03:35:14 <Ukto>	but if you look at it like a CD in the real world...
Dec 13 03:35:30 <Ukto>	you put in, hoping for a 2% interest rate.. that has some built in decline in value
Dec 13 03:35:44 <dub>	I need to check what ABM was
Dec 13 03:35:44 <Ukto>	you expect to make that interest, and then at the end, get your money back on for the CD
Dec 13 03:35:55 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: However, I still assume you aren't being malicious about it, because I can't quite tell whether that part of you is simply missing or not.
Dec 13 03:35:56 <Ukto>	people applied that line of thought to mining bonds
Dec 13 03:36:02 <Chaang-Noi>	about 2 people asked... no one cared, and no i did nt think people thought it was backed by hardware as i never claimed it was. i assumed people would read the contract...
Dec 13 03:36:02 <Ukto>	not understanding the value of the bond itself would drop
Dec 13 03:36:16 <Ukto>	although
Dec 13 03:36:18 <Ukto>	as for ABM
Dec 13 03:36:23 <Ukto>	My biggiest question right now is
Dec 13 03:36:26 <Ukto>	Why is it an issue?
Dec 13 03:36:28 <Ukto>	its still trading?
Dec 13 03:36:33 <Ukto>	its not like he paid ppl off for ABM ??
Dec 13 03:36:37 <dub>	apparently it is
Dec 13 03:36:42 <dub>	on some new platform
Dec 13 03:36:46 <Ukto>	yes, on mine
Dec 13 03:36:52 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: It was an omission in the nature of the contract. It did not give people information which likely would have reduced the number of people who bought into the bonds considerably.
Dec 13 03:36:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont understand why you think i should assume the people buying the stuff are too stupid to understand the contract. i think i said in the thread it was not back by anyhardware but i cant remember for sure. it was not a secret
Dec 13 03:37:00 <Ukto>	dub: bitfunder is my platform. :P
Dec 13 03:37:17 <Ukto>	Thats why I want to understand "why" there is an issue about the value of the bond itself for ABM
Dec 13 03:37:26 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: You didn't specify. "This is not backed up by hardware. I am betting against you. If you want to take my bet, buy my bonds."
Dec 13 03:37:27 <Ukto>	PGM sure.. i can see that. there is a disagreeance on buyout price
Dec 13 03:37:31 <dub>	oh right, so while theres obviously been a downturn due to an act of nefario, it is a company and that happens, theres no reason to suspect it wont recover some value
Dec 13 03:37:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i think not having the hardware, and using the btc gained as a reserve would make the deal stronger... i did not have any alpacas either.. should i ahve told everyone?
Dec 13 03:37:49 <dub>	double negatives aside
Dec 13 03:37:56 <Chaang-Noi>	midnightmagic i said just that if you were to read the contract...
Dec 13 03:38:08 <dub>	midnightmagic: can you link the abm contract please
Dec 13 03:38:12 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: Is the contract still up somewhere?
Dec 13 03:38:17 <Ukto>	do two negatives make a positive?
Dec 13 03:38:20 <midnightmagic>	dub: I'm reading the IPO announcement thread.
Dec 13 03:38:25 <midnightmagic>	dub: I linked to it in my objection.
Dec 13 03:38:51 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: By the way, is that note in your profile still accurate? Did they ban you?
Dec 13 03:39:10 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know midnightmagic with the glbse and sec stuff i dont know of a place where it is. but clearly no one had an issue with it.
Dec 13 03:39:16 <Chaang-Noi>	yes i was banned by theymos
Dec 13 03:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056924 = 2.4597 BTC [+]
Dec 13 03:39:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15879 @ 0.00056946 = 9.0425 BTC [+]
Dec 13 03:39:20 <Chaang-Noi>	for glbse stuff...
Dec 13 03:39:20 <midnightmagic>	I mean.. did they ban the account under which you primarily posted?
Dec 13 03:39:22 <dub>	midnightmagic: ok, so thats just a stupidly over priced bond
Dec 13 03:39:43 <dub>	midnightmagic: he doesnt seem to be charging a fee
Dec 13 03:39:45 <Chaang-Noi>	i think theymos was trying to shut me up about him and glbse and what they needed to do
Dec 13 03:39:58 <midnightmagic>	Banning is never the answer, I don't think, in cases like this.
Dec 13 03:40:02 <Chaang-Noi>	theyoms as a joint holder of glbse is on the hook for what happened. like it or not...
Dec 13 03:40:11 <Chaang-Noi>	its his forum
Dec 13 03:40:12 <dub>	midnightmagic: I dont understand what "buying" means
Dec 13 03:40:19 <dub>	er forget that
Dec 13 03:40:30 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos was able to kill all the attacks aginst, i think that was his goal
Dec 13 03:40:31 <dub>	I dont understand "Only electricity used by the BFL Single(`s) will be calculated."
Dec 13 03:40:38 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: Did he remove your posts?
Dec 13 03:40:51 <midnightmagic>	Note the (`s).
Dec 13 03:40:55 <Chaang-Noi>	not that i know of.
Dec 13 03:41:03 <midnightmagic>	Well there's that then, at least.
Dec 13 03:41:17 <dub>	I read that contract as it being a .82mh/s bond
Dec 13 03:41:21 <Chaang-Noi>	but he did it right as i was starting to post evidance aginst theymos...
Dec 13 03:41:30 <dub>	and his price is astronomical for that
Dec 13 03:41:41 <Chaang-Noi>	he was about to get his own scammer thread and he knew it
Dec 13 03:41:47 *	UncleScrooge (~UncleScro@199.26.85.34) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 13 03:41:53 <midnightmagic>	dub: That is because you knew that beforehand. Note he never actually clarifies that it is *only* ever going to be for one single.
Dec 13 03:41:57 <dub>	I suggest that nobody buy it
Dec 13 03:42:06 <midnightmagic>	dub: Little late for that now.
Dec 13 03:42:12 <dub>	midnightmagic: true
Dec 13 03:42:24 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: Why don't you put it up somewhere else?
Dec 13 03:42:40 <dub>	its not as bad as PGM though .82mh/s with a 25% fee
Dec 13 03:43:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought about it, but really i think him banning me is more than enough for the people who share my views on this.
Dec 13 03:43:06 <midnightmagic>	dub: You think PGM is worse?
Dec 13 03:43:11 <dub>	im going ot assume both issuer and buyers are mentally deficient
Dec 13 03:43:37 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: Some people who analyze this stuff thrive on information. From them, informed opinion flows. I think more data on any situation can only ever help.
Dec 13 03:43:41 <dub>	midnightmagic: yep, where does the 25% go? it doesnt say they are goign to buy new hardware with it, its just a tax for no reason
Dec 13 03:44:03 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos telling people to keep glbse money, theymos giving nefario the scammer tag (for scewing theymos) and other stuff is just wrong. people were able to see who theymos really is and what he will do when is money is on the line
Dec 13 03:44:20 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 13 03:44:24 <Ukto>	FUCK IT ALL, find a new website
Dec 13 03:44:24 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 03:44:28 <Ukto>	>,>
Dec 13 03:44:40 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: I'm kind of irritated that theymos seems to have demonstrated that he reads PMs.
Dec 13 03:44:49 <Ukto>	Chaang-Noi: I got a better idea
Dec 13 03:44:52 <Ukto>	lets give EVERYONE a scammer tag
Dec 13 03:44:55 <Chaang-Noi>	he not only reads PMs he will make them public
Dec 13 03:44:58 <dub>	midnightmagic: PGM is asking people to pay .25 for 75% of the output of .82mh/s when they could have gotthe output of 1mh/s for the same price or cheaper
Dec 13 03:45:00 <Ukto>	because eventually, everyone wont see eye to eye
Dec 13 03:45:20 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: I agree actually. The current one is buckling under sybil attacks, reined in only by the fact that some people want to operate in the sun.
Dec 13 03:45:26 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah the scammer tag system is broken
Dec 13 03:45:37 <Ukto>	look
Dec 13 03:45:43 <Ukto>	this is is how it is
Dec 13 03:45:52 <Ukto>	psychoboy put up an asset
Dec 13 03:45:52 <dub>	midnightmagic: its a scam in that the issuer clearly has a child mind and is probably not legally entitled to handle currency at all
Dec 13 03:46:01 <Ukto>	set some rules
Dec 13 03:46:10 <Ukto>	for hwo the income and divs would be set
Dec 13 03:46:14 <midnightmagic>	Invite, vouch-only membership means you can cut entire branches of trolls and sybil accounts off in one graph partition.
Dec 13 03:46:21 <Ukto>	thats peopel dumb fault right there if they bought it
Dec 13 03:46:31 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: has psycho broken anyhting he said ?
Dec 13 03:46:34 <Ukto>	has he paid his divs ?
Dec 13 03:46:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i agree ukto, contracts are there for a reason
Dec 13 03:46:55 <Ukto>	i understand he was supposed to order an asic IF the funds were raised ? right ?
Dec 13 03:46:58 <Ukto>	were the funds raised?
Dec 13 03:47:18 <midnightmagic>	No, dumb people who are misled by someone who knows from the outset that *he will not make them any money* and calling it an investment, that is called fraud.
Dec 13 03:47:21 <midnightmagic>	It's theft.
Dec 13 03:47:25 <Ukto>	dood
Dec 13 03:47:30 <Ukto>	if I wanna charge 50%
Dec 13 03:47:31 <Ukto>	for my services
Dec 13 03:47:35 <Ukto>	to run a damned bond
Dec 13 03:47:38 <Ukto>	that causes more drama
Dec 13 03:47:42 <Ukto>	then an election
Dec 13 03:47:44 <Ukto>	then I will charge it
Dec 13 03:47:47 <dub>	midnightmagic: I agree
Dec 13 03:47:48 <Ukto>	and ppl can chosoe to pay it or not
Dec 13 03:47:52 <midnightmagic>	argh. IM-speak.
Dec 13 03:48:03 <Ukto>	it happens, sorry :)
Dec 13 03:48:07 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: Are you calling it an investment?
Dec 13 03:48:10 <dub>	midnightmagic: but ABM can return the investment eventually if it keeps going, its just a terrible deal
Dec 13 03:48:27 <midnightmagic>	dub: No, exponential difficulty increases mean that is impossible, forever.
Dec 13 03:48:27 <dub>	midnightmagic: only because you could get the same thing cheaper
Dec 13 03:48:33 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: I called my example a service
Dec 13 03:48:51 <Chaang-Noi>	it seems ukto is free market and midnightmagic is calling for regulation cuz people are too stupid...
Dec 13 03:49:15 <dub>	midnightmagic: so nobody has ever paid off a cpu/gpu/pga they bought for mining huh?
Dec 13 03:49:15 <Ukto>	dub: in the same sense, shoudl we give lexus a scammer tag? I can buy a hyundai for much cheaper, and almost get the same quality :P
Dec 13 03:49:17 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: Put it up on a stock-market-looking thing. Call your shareholders "investors" and you are 100% defrauding them if you *know for a fact* that you aren't going to make their money back.
Dec 13 03:49:40 <midnightmagic>	Chaang-Noi: I'm 100% free market. I'm 100% anti-theft. :)
Dec 13 03:49:41 <dub>	Ukto: bullshit, nothign is higher quality than toyota
Dec 13 03:49:42 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: thats false
Dec 13 03:49:46 <Ukto>	dub: LOL
Dec 13 03:49:50 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: i can start a company
Dec 13 03:49:53 <Ukto>	IPO the bitch
Dec 13 03:49:58 <Ukto>	and if the company fails a year later
Dec 13 03:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056929 = 2.4599 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:50:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8529 @ 0.00056946 = 4.8569 BTC [+]
Dec 13 03:50:01 <Ukto>	w/o returning their funds
Dec 13 03:50:02 <Ukto>	its not a scam
Dec 13 03:50:04 <dub>	midnightmagic: answer my last question please
Dec 13 03:50:11 <Ukto>	its a failed attempt at business
Dec 13 03:50:12 <Ukto>	end of story.
Dec 13 03:50:18 <Ukto>	if you make a pnzi scheem
Dec 13 03:50:27 <Ukto>	that is not POSIBLY capable of paying back
Dec 13 03:50:28 <Ukto>	THAT
Dec 13 03:50:31 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: I'm fairly sure that's true, not false. If you start a company, sell shares, and never intend to make your shareholders money, ever, the SEC will fuck your financial corpse.
Dec 13 03:50:31 <Ukto>	is wrong
Dec 13 03:50:48 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: has psycho missed any div payments?
Dec 13 03:50:54 <Ukto>	i didnt realise you were acusing him of this
Dec 13 03:51:06 <midnightmagic>	You'll be like that zombie in Walking dead that had her teeth knocked out for sexual purposes.
Dec 13 03:51:24 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: has psychoboy not paid all dividends as set in the agreement?
Dec 13 03:51:26 <Ukto>	if not
Dec 13 03:51:28 <dub>	midnightmagic: can you look at my question and explain why it is true? im missing something
Dec 13 03:51:30 <Ukto>	i will pull his asset off of BF
Dec 13 03:51:41 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: I'm saying that the exhorbitant initial price meant he knew for sure that his "investors" would never make their money back.
Dec 13 03:51:45 <dub>	I am pretty bad a math I'll admit
Dec 13 03:52:01 <dub>	but I think these now silent GPUs next to me paid for themselves
Dec 13 03:52:09 <midnightmagic>	He was choosing a threshold that people would still pay, being ambiguous about the hardware backing it (also deliberately) and not clarifying until the scheme was outed.
Dec 13 03:52:44 <midnightmagic>	dub: Huh? I paid off all my hardware within the first 1-4 months, depending on the hardware.
Dec 13 03:52:50 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: some people take investments, build resturants, they give projections to investors of what income MIGHT come in, and fall short ALL the time
Dec 13 03:52:55 <Ukto>	that does not make it a scam
Dec 13 03:52:59 <Ukto>	its a best guess
Dec 13 03:53:03 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: Correct.
Dec 13 03:53:07 <dub>	midnightmagic: what? but thats impossible with exponential difficulty somthing somthing
Dec 13 03:53:10 <Ukto>	IF he had raised teh funds for an ASIC
Dec 13 03:53:13 <Ukto>	and IF one delivered
Dec 13 03:53:18 <Ukto>	when BFL said they would be
Dec 13 03:53:21 <Ukto>	and failed
Dec 13 03:53:25 <midnightmagic>	dub: Am I paying 4x more for the same hardware that everyone else pays 1x for?
Dec 13 03:53:27 <Ukto>	his div payouts would ahve been GREAT
Dec 13 03:53:35 <Ukto>	a. he didnt raise enough
Dec 13 03:53:40 <midnightmagic>	dub: If I am, no, I'm not going to make it back.
Dec 13 03:53:41 <Ukto>	which b. didnt matter cause BFL is fail
Dec 13 03:53:48 <Ukto>	so lets give BFL a scammer tag
Dec 13 03:53:50 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: ABM had nothing to do with ASIC.
Dec 13 03:53:50 <dub>	midnightmagic: well 1.2-3 times more in ABM's case
Dec 13 03:54:10 <Ukto>	oh, i thought part of it was he was raising btc for an asic ?
Dec 13 03:54:20 <midnightmagic>	dub: 4x. 1000 shares. 0.25. BFL Single is $599. I'm fairly confident the cost of a BTC then was $10..?
Dec 13 03:54:51 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: when?
Dec 13 03:54:51 <midnightmagic>	250BTC = $2500, which is 4x more. Perhaps I'm making an incorrect assumption about btc price back then.
Dec 13 03:54:54 <Ukto>	i thought it was older than tha
Dec 13 03:54:55 <dub>	midnightmagic: its a .82mh/s bond for the same price as a 1mh/s bond
Dec 13 03:55:19 <Ukto>	no way jose
Dec 13 03:55:20 <Ukto>	april 30
Dec 13 03:55:26 <Ukto>	is the introducing new mining company
Dec 13 03:55:28 <Ukto>	ABM
Dec 13 03:55:31 <Ukto>	it was NOT at $10
Dec 13 03:55:35 <Ukto>	your smoking heavy duty crack
Dec 13 03:55:41 <Ukto>	lets pull up bitconcharts
Dec 13 03:55:46 <dub>	probably $5
Dec 13 03:55:55 <Ukto>	uno momento
Dec 13 03:56:34 <Ukto>	yes, roughtly $5
Dec 13 03:56:40 <midnightmagic>	My mistake. $5. So, $1250, or ~2x the price.
Dec 13 03:56:54 <midnightmagic>	I'll go edit my objection once again for accuracy.
Dec 13 03:56:55 <Ukto>	get your fact straights at least
Dec 13 03:56:57 <Ukto>	if your making accusations
Dec 13 03:57:16 <dub>	midnightmagic: I still don't understand why fixed mh bonds can't pay off, can you explain the math?
Dec 13 03:57:18 <Ukto>	otherwise anyhting you say might get considered as fodder
Dec 13 03:58:14 <dub>	midnightmagic: I know it takes a while, probably longer than buying hardware but theres the tradeoff with not having to buy it and all the hassle
Dec 13 03:58:36 <Ukto>	anyone have a copy of the contract
Dec 13 03:58:38 <Ukto>	for ABM?
Dec 13 03:58:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00056208 = 7.4195 BTC [-]
Dec 13 03:58:46 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78638.0;all
Dec 13 03:59:00 <Ukto>	err
Dec 13 03:59:00 <Ukto>	no
Dec 13 03:59:11 <dub>	I especially like how they get RAPED for power in .nl :)
Dec 13 04:00:55 <Ukto>	so it says.. "we have 1 BFL @ 830mhz using about 80w" "electricity costs are 0.24eur per KW/h" we ocudl go back in time and calculate 0.24eur into usd in april.. and do some crayz math to estiame power usage..
Dec 13 04:01:16 <Ukto>	but continuing..  he states he will pay wednesday, and sold at 0.25 per share initialyl
Dec 13 04:01:21 <Ukto>	i dont see the issue
Dec 13 04:01:34 <Ukto>	if he wants to charge a crazy amount up front
Dec 13 04:01:38 <Ukto>	for the hassle
Dec 13 04:01:49 <Ukto>	thats his, and his buyers decisions
Dec 13 04:01:54 <Ukto>	you cant make their decisions for them
Dec 13 04:01:55 <dub>	midnightmagic: im genuinely interested if you think im being contrairy oslt, I bought bonds expecting to get a little bit of return on them
Dec 13 04:02:03 <Ukto>	as long as he pays out his dividends
Dec 13 04:02:04 <Ukto>	as promised
Dec 13 04:02:10 <Ukto>	I see nothing wrong
Dec 13 04:02:25 <dub>	midnightmagic: either by takings some divs and the price of reselling them, or holding until they had paid for themselves
Dec 13 04:03:09 <midnightmagic>	dub: At 2x the price, you will be left behind by people who can use that money to grow their mining operation, sooner.
Dec 13 04:03:26 <Ukto>	wait wait a sec
Dec 13 04:03:29 <Ukto>	doesnt matter
Dec 13 04:03:31 <Ukto>	10x price
Dec 13 04:03:32 <Ukto>	100x price
Dec 13 04:03:33 <midnightmagic>	Thus, it's a bad investment regardless unless you purchase a stake in the company itself, the enterprise.
Dec 13 04:03:35 <Ukto>	if ppl wanted to pay it
Dec 13 04:03:37 <Ukto>	thats their duty.
Dec 13 04:03:43 <Ukto>	you can call it a scam
Dec 13 04:03:47 <midnightmagic>	If you are up-front, sure.
Dec 13 04:03:47 <Ukto>	but 2x price
Dec 13 04:04:01 <Ukto>	is one thing
Dec 13 04:04:03 <Ukto>	UNFORTUNATELY
Dec 13 04:04:08 <Ukto>	the current holders of the shares
Dec 13 04:04:15 <Ukto>	are probably not the ones who paid the 0.25btc
Dec 13 04:04:22 <Ukto>	they wre probably traded many times over
Dec 13 04:04:24 <Ukto>	with a market rate
Dec 13 04:04:29 <Ukto>	of more and MORE ppl trading the shares
Dec 13 04:04:34 <dub>	midnightmagic: I don't have it any more but I recall lworkign up some numbers on buying more gpus vs paying market rates for fixed mh bonds and it worked out
Dec 13 04:04:35 <Ukto>	and setting the trade price
Dec 13 04:04:41 <Ukto>	at whicih most current share holders probably paid
Dec 13 04:04:57 <Ukto>	whos dumb? the initial investor? the ppl STILL trading it for 8 months?
Dec 13 04:05:04 <midnightmagic>	dub: For normal bonds, at actually normal prices, and for commercial power costs, yes.
Dec 13 04:05:07 <dub>	midnightmagic: turns out I made a decent amount just flipping the bonds when everyone else started thinking it was a good idea
Dec 13 04:05:10 <Ukto>	why is there just now a problem over it 8 months alter?
Dec 13 04:05:11 <Ukto>	later?
Dec 13 04:05:45 <Ukto>	"hey wait, its been 8 months, shits happened, my divs have not paid out as much as I had hoped.. SCAM SCAM SCAM!!!"
Dec 13 04:05:47 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: Because someone complained and didn't frame his objection very well. And I happened to notice PsychoticBoy mocking him and saying he could suck PB's balls.
Dec 13 04:05:58 <dub>	midnightmagic: so the problem with abm is they are like 18-20% too expensive
Dec 13 04:06:29 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: so in reality, you dont give a shit about ABM, and what happened 8 months ago. you just want to punish psychoboy for being mean to someone ?
Dec 13 04:06:35 <dub>	midnightmagic: iirc he was pimping the ECO aspect as well which some silly people might value
Dec 13 04:06:36 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 04:06:45 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: I have a problem with people who have taken someone else's money, and then told them to suck balls.
Dec 13 04:06:56 <Ukto>	did he take their money?
Dec 13 04:07:02 <Ukto>	do you ahve a a btc transaction log to proove it?
Dec 13 04:07:08 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: I want to help someone frame an argument who was being trampled by a sociopath.
Dec 13 04:07:10 <Ukto>	you sure they didnt buy the shares off someone else on the market?
Dec 13 04:07:20 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: And I happen to think what happened is fraud.
Dec 13 04:07:30 <Ukto>	you think what happened to OTHER ppl 8 months ago is fraud
Dec 13 04:07:37 <Ukto>	that the ppl involved at the time did not
Dec 13 04:07:37 <Ukto>	?
Dec 13 04:07:51 <dub>	midnightmagic: its real nice of you to do that but isnt the problem here that the little guy just didnt realise how long it would take to get his money back?
Dec 13 04:07:57 <Ukto>	you cant say that the current guy complaining is the same
Dec 13 04:07:59 <Ukto>	as 8 months ago
Dec 13 04:08:08 <dub>	midnightmagic: at least now that he missed th eopportunity to sell them
Dec 13 04:08:11 <Ukto>	so he didnt necessariyl get fucked by psycho
Dec 13 04:08:25 <Ukto>	psycho is just telling him to fuck off because it was how it was 8 months ago?
Dec 13 04:08:28 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: That's not really germane; additionally, that is pedantism. It doesn't change the fact that the issuer is the scammer.
Dec 13 04:08:33 <midnightmagic>	It is irrelevant who currently owns the shares.
Dec 13 04:08:34 <dub>	midnightmagic: oh wait, EVERYFUCKINGONE ate a shit sandwich because of nefario
Dec 13 04:08:43 <Ukto>	but hes not a scammer
Dec 13 04:08:50 <Ukto>	has he paid his divs like he said?
Dec 13 04:08:51 <midnightmagic>	Fukken rights he's a scammer.
Dec 13 04:08:58 <Ukto>	has he not done something in his 5 line contract?
Dec 13 04:09:01 <Ukto>	what didnt he do
Dec 13 04:09:04 <Ukto>	in his agreement?
Dec 13 04:09:17 <Ukto>	"He made money. SCAMMER SCAMMER!" ?
Dec 13 04:09:22 <Ukto>	profiting is scamming someone?
Dec 13 04:09:26 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: Correct. He has not done what he intimated he was going to do.
Dec 13 04:09:28 <Ukto>	its not like he took their money
Dec 13 04:09:30 <Ukto>	and did not give anything
Dec 13 04:09:32 <Ukto>	he gave what was promised
Dec 13 04:09:40 <Ukto>	he hasnt paid dividends
Dec 13 04:09:42 <Ukto>	on 1 bfl single?
Dec 13 04:09:44 <midnightmagic>	He did take their money under false pretenses. He did not clarify.
Dec 13 04:09:51 <dub>	im goign to agree that PGM is a scam
Dec 13 04:09:57 <Ukto>	:/
Dec 13 04:09:59 <midnightmagic>	And when someone asked, he still didn't clarify.
Dec 13 04:10:08 <Ukto>	dub: midnightmagic has a horrible way of talking to ppl
Dec 13 04:10:13 <dub>	there is no sane way to argue that it was anythign other pouring money down the toilet
Dec 13 04:10:14 <Ukto>	would you be willing to tlak to me in pm
Dec 13 04:10:17 <Ukto>	so I can try to understand?
Dec 13 04:10:26 <midnightmagic>	who, me?
Dec 13 04:11:01 <midnightmagic>	It's just because I'm fairly certain neither of you is actually interested in doing anything but honing your own arguments in the pro-fraud category.
Dec 13 04:11:04 <dub>	Ukto: PGM was a .82mh/s fixed bond with a 25% tax, ie. you only got 75% of the .82mh/s
Dec 13 04:11:17 <midnightmagic>	And thus, no, I'm not actually invested in this discussion.
Dec 13 04:11:21 <dub>	Ukto: there was nothign in the contract about using that 25% to grow the business
Dec 13 04:11:33 <Ukto>	i dont see anyhting abotu 25% ?
Dec 13 04:11:44 <dub>	Ukto: in ABM or PGM?
Dec 13 04:11:44 <Ukto>	in the forum thread you linked
Dec 13 04:11:44 <midnightmagic>	Ukto: He's talking about PGM now, different beast.
Dec 13 04:11:47 <Ukto>	at least not int eh first part
Dec 13 04:11:48 <Ukto>	ABM
Dec 13 04:11:49 <dub>	Ukto: thats ABM
Dec 13 04:11:53 <Ukto>	...
Dec 13 04:11:56 <Ukto>	thats what weve been talking about?
Dec 13 04:11:58 <dub>	i said PGM is a scam
Dec 13 04:12:03 <Ukto>	oooh yeah
Dec 13 04:12:04 <Ukto>	pgm
Dec 13 04:12:11 <Ukto>	thats naother story
Dec 13 04:12:12 <Ukto>	i wont touch yet
Dec 13 04:12:16 <dub>	abm is just a shitty deal for a fixed bond
Dec 13 04:12:27 <Ukto>	the shareholder knew it  had issues, and demanded money
Dec 13 04:12:31 <dub>	because ECO
Dec 13 04:12:33 <Ukto>	rather than letting it goto market
Dec 13 04:12:35 <dub>	or something
Dec 13 04:12:35 <Ukto>	and then asking for money
Dec 13 04:13:03 <Ukto>	i honestly think all the assets that are payin gppl off
Dec 13 04:13:10 <Ukto>	before relisting
Dec 13 04:13:15 <Ukto>	are asking for scam accusations
Dec 13 04:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005608 = 2.4232 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13829 @ 0.00056075 = 7.7546 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:13:22 <Ukto>	cause there is no more market rate
Dec 13 04:13:25 <dub>	you owuld need to be brain dead to buy PGM, hence its a scam because you shouldnt take money from brain dead people
Dec 13 04:13:39 <Ukto>	dub: but they bought in from paladium
Dec 13 04:13:39 <Ukto>	or some shit
Dec 13 04:13:40 <Ukto>	right?
Dec 13 04:13:46 <midnightmagic>	It is fraudulent. He knew in advance that he was only ever selling a Single, for 2x its retail price. He suggested that there was going to be more by using the term "currently" and a plural form of the FPGA boards. He didn't clarify when people demonstrated confusion in follow-up posts.
Dec 13 04:13:51 <midnightmagic>	Fraud.
Dec 13 04:13:53 <Ukto>	psychoboy paid btc to take it over right?
Dec 13 04:13:56 <dub>	Ukto: yep they did
Dec 13 04:14:37 <Ukto>	so.. if paladin w/e.. scammed ppl... made a bunch of money.. (right?)  and then psychoboy paid paladin money.. to take it over... (right?)
Dec 13 04:14:41 <dub>	Ukto: I think psychoboy is a scammer because he bought PGM knowing it was a scam
Dec 13 04:14:42 <Ukto>	how is psychoboy the scammer?
Dec 13 04:14:44 <midnightmagic>	He never said, specifically, "Guess what, your share will only ever be this one single. Ever. Period. And I'm pocketing the difference.
Dec 13 04:14:48 <Ukto>	when he paid out to the original scammer?
Dec 13 04:14:55 <Ukto>	he who?
Dec 13 04:14:58 <Ukto>	the first owner
Dec 13 04:14:59 <Ukto>	or psycho ?
Dec 13 04:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056086 = 2.4235 BTC [+]
Dec 13 04:15:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00056075 = 3.0163 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:15:10 <midnightmagic>	ABM.
Dec 13 04:15:11 <dub>	midnightmagic: what are you talkign about now, PGM or ABM?
Dec 13 04:15:22 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: were off of ABM, that was settled, not a scam
Dec 13 04:15:24 <Ukto>	move on
Dec 13 04:15:26 <Ukto>	hold topics please
Dec 13 04:16:01 <Ukto>	and if you are talking baout ABM.
Dec 13 04:16:04 <Ukto>	psychoi didnt buy it
Dec 13 04:16:05 <Ukto>	he started it
Dec 13 04:16:09 <Ukto>	your confusing yourself
Dec 13 04:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056096 = 2.4239 BTC [+]
Dec 13 04:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4154 @ 0.00056075 = 2.3294 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:16:35 <Ukto>	you might want to try writing things down on paper
Dec 13 04:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 425 @ 0.00056039 = 0.2382 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:16:39 <Ukto>	sseperate htem into columns
Dec 13 04:16:43 <Ukto>	will help you figure things out.
Dec 13 04:17:31 <Ukto>	not trying to be rude
Dec 13 04:17:33 <Ukto>	just being honest
Dec 13 04:17:46 <midnightmagic>	lol Yeah, I guess you can claim it's settled and pretend it is, but that doesn't change the fact that it's fraudulent.
Dec 13 04:17:55 <dub>	midnightmagic: so was the orignal gigamining a scam? it was only ever goign to be 200GH/s of mining farm paid out in 5mh/s chunks?
Dec 13 04:17:56 <Ukto>	which one?
Dec 13 04:18:14 <Ukto>	IT and HE are not good descriports when talking about multiple ITS and HEs
Dec 13 04:18:20 <Ukto>	descriptors
Dec 13 04:18:33 <midnightmagic>	dub: He offered an upgrade path. Big difference.
Dec 13 04:18:40 <Ukto>	so if you started a mining bond
Dec 13 04:18:45 <Ukto>	and did not offer an upgrade path
Dec 13 04:18:47 <Ukto>	instant scammer tag?
Dec 13 04:19:00 <Ukto>	you realise most bonds paid out 100% pps ?
Dec 13 04:19:01 <dub>	midnightmagic: no that was after the idea of asics arrived
Dec 13 04:19:01 <pigeons>	yeah i dont see the upgrade path mattering
Dec 13 04:19:05 <Ukto>	there was no money to hold back for upgrades
Dec 13 04:19:14 <dub>	midnightmagic: it was always a fixed MH bond
Dec 13 04:19:19 <Ukto>	dub: or fpga's too
Dec 13 04:19:20 <midnightmagic>	When generational equipment obsoletes your old crap? And you do nothing to protect your investors' investments? Insta-scammer.
Dec 13 04:19:49 <pigeons>	the deal is x for the proceeds of xmh/s
Dec 13 04:19:50 <midnightmagic>	He at least is making an effort. Note that I haven't said he's not a scammer.
Dec 13 04:20:07 <dub>	ok, so the issue with ABM is theres no asic upgrade
Dec 13 04:20:19 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: you should post in the thread
Dec 13 04:20:23 <midnightmagic>	The issue with ABM is that he pocketed the difference without telling anyone that's what he was going to do.
Dec 13 04:20:24 <Ukto>	that its not just ABM
Dec 13 04:20:27 <Ukto>	put put a list together
Dec 13 04:20:30 <Ukto>	of all the mining bonds
Dec 13 04:20:37 <Ukto>	that do not offer an upgrade path, and list them too
Dec 13 04:20:37 <midnightmagic>	While simultaneously implying he was going to buy more hardware.
Dec 13 04:20:38 <Ukto>	so everyone knows
Dec 13 04:20:42 <Ukto>	:)
Dec 13 04:20:49 <Ukto>	for abm?
Dec 13 04:20:52 <Ukto>	or pgm?
Dec 13 04:20:57 <Ukto>	again
Dec 13 04:21:00 <Ukto>	please specify what your talking about
Dec 13 04:21:02 <Ukto>	and who 'he' is
Dec 13 04:21:08 <midnightmagic>	Read my lines one after another and stop IM-talking.
Dec 13 04:21:10 <dub>	midnightmagic: well at the time thats what a mh was worth on the market
Dec 13 04:21:26 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: you have not stated abm or pgm yet
Dec 13 04:21:34 <midnightmagic>	01:20 < midnightmagic> The issue with ABM is that he pocketed the difference without telling anyone that's what he was going to do.
Dec 13 04:21:35 <Ukto>	i have read them, and do not know how to apply them
Dec 13 04:21:51 <dub>	midnightmagic: its irrelvant if tis a pga, gpu, mouse in wheel backed farm
Dec 13 04:22:10 <Ukto>	okay, let me say this midnightmagic
Dec 13 04:22:19 <midnightmagic>	Permission denied.
Dec 13 04:22:23 <Ukto>	at one point, he wrote "I am planning to grow bigger and bigger, recently ordered another BFLS."
Dec 13 04:22:28 <Ukto>	did he actually order more BFLS?
Dec 13 04:22:37 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: you are very rude when someones trying to help you.
Dec 13 04:23:08 <midnightmagic>	Sigh. Go ahead then. I'm not really asking for help, but I do appreciate the sentiment.
Dec 13 04:23:18 <Ukto>	did he actually order more BFLS?
Dec 13 04:23:23 <Ukto>	he stated he did
Dec 13 04:23:39 <midnightmagic>	Also, I didn't mean it to be rude, but was merely pointing out the absurdity of the syntax.
Dec 13 04:23:45 <dub>	midnightmagic: for the record I've been arguing that fixed mh bonds are not inherently a scam because I thought thats what your position was. I think PS is a scammer if only because he bought PGM knowing what a steaming sack of shit of a deal it was for 'investors'
Dec 13 04:24:18 <Ukto>	ooh
Dec 13 04:24:27 <midnightmagic>	dub: I recognise that; I understand.
Dec 13 04:24:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16696 @ 0.00056039 = 9.3563 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:24:42 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: psycho DID state the SAME day he announced ABM "I will only issue more shares if I have the hardware to back it up."
Dec 13 04:24:49 <Ukto>	i.e. the current shares are for 1 unit
Dec 13 04:25:01 <Ukto>	he specificalyl states that if he buys more, he will add more shares
Dec 13 04:25:08 <midnightmagic>	That is not what he says.
Dec 13 04:25:09 <Ukto>	so there were no lies on upgrades
Dec 13 04:25:11 <Ukto>	or adding
Dec 13 04:25:13 <Ukto>	i just copiesd it
Dec 13 04:25:30 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78638.msg876644#msg876644
Dec 13 04:25:32 <Ukto>	first line
Dec 13 04:25:32 <Ukto>	read it
Dec 13 04:25:36 <midnightmagic>	That is part of the source of the ambiguity. He never flatly states that the shares are only ever for one Single.
Dec 13 04:25:44 <Ukto>	same day as the thread was made
Dec 13 04:25:49 <Ukto>	right there
Dec 13 04:25:52 <Ukto>	is PLAINLY obvious
Dec 13 04:25:53 <midnightmagic>	...
Dec 13 04:26:05 <midnightmagic>	You are experiencing right now something called confirmation bias.
Dec 13 04:26:09 <Ukto>	its not different than saying "when i get more equipment, i will add more shares"
Dec 13 04:26:25 <midnightmagic>	But you don't know how to recognise it, and so you think what you are reading reinforces your interpretation.
Dec 13 04:26:37 <Ukto>	if i step on your foot, and tell you im sorry
Dec 13 04:26:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056185 = 2.4278 BTC [+]
Dec 13 04:26:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00056208 = 3.6816 BTC [+]
Dec 13 04:26:41 <Ukto>	without saying its for your foot
Dec 13 04:26:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12579 @ 0.00056807 = 7.1458 BTC [+]
Dec 13 04:26:44 <dub>	not sure how I feel about whether a moron who collects steaming shits and offers them for sale, is a scammer when people buy them
Dec 13 04:26:46 <Ukto>	do you get mad at me?
Dec 13 04:26:49 <Ukto>	for meaning something else?
Dec 13 04:27:35 <Ukto>	this was far more specific
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Dec 13 04:27:46 <midnightmagic>	fwiw, I told you before I'm not too terribly invested in this discussion, and why.
Dec 13 04:28:03 *	midnightmagic goes away.
Dec 13 04:28:15 <Ukto>	"i will only issue more shares if i have the hwardware to back it up" -- no additional hardware.... no extra shares.. current shares are for current hardware
Dec 13 04:28:30 <Ukto>	"if i add more hardware, it wont be in relation to the current shares"
Dec 13 04:28:31 <Ukto>	same thing
Dec 13 04:28:45 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: i appreciate your opinion
Dec 13 04:28:50 <Ukto>	I am just trying ot understand it
Dec 13 04:28:55 <Ukto>	and looking for logic behind it
Dec 13 04:29:09 <Ukto>	i thikn at this point, its is a matter of personal opinion of context
Dec 13 04:29:34 <Ukto>	and some weird inclination that all mining bonds are scammers w/o an ugprade path, even though the buyers are wanting 100% payout in divs..
Dec 13 04:30:13 <Ukto>	"I wanna buy that car. well. when the next one comes out, give me a free upgrade."
Dec 13 04:30:15 <Ukto>	... 0,o
Dec 13 04:30:56 <Ukto>	"I will pay X/mo indefenitely, as long as I get upgraded every time one comes out" that is plausable
Dec 13 04:31:07 <Ukto>	in fact, they call that a lease
Dec 13 04:31:07 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 04:32:08 <Ukto>	midnightmagic: I am curious though..
Dec 13 04:32:11 <Ukto>	since I run BitFunder
Dec 13 04:32:17 <Ukto>	where ABM is now being listing..
Dec 13 04:32:29 <Ukto>	and so far I side with psychoboy, are you going to put me up for a scammer tag? 0,o
Dec 13 04:32:42 <Ukto>	for a difference in opinion?
Dec 13 04:33:09 <Ukto>	(I side with him at least on ABM. No idea about PGM.)
Dec 13 04:36:11 <Ukto>	pigeons: dub: I know what we need for the forums
Dec 13 04:36:14 <Ukto>	better than a scammer tag
Dec 13 04:36:17 <Ukto>	TROLL tag
Dec 13 04:37:09 <dub>	I think what he's saying is with mining, if ASIC comes along and inflates diff to a point that the previous generation of hardware (and fixed mh bond) will never break even that the issuers shoud act to make investors whole
Dec 13 04:37:56 <Ukto>	he made a valid statement
Dec 13 04:37:59 <Ukto>	that we all know a year ago
Dec 13 04:38:02 <Ukto>	when fpga
Dec 13 04:38:03 <Ukto>	s came out
Dec 13 04:38:08 <Ukto>	and cause a jump in diff
Dec 13 04:38:12 <Ukto>	"surprise" ?
Dec 13 04:38:40 <Ukto>	not everyone belived BFL was releasing ASIC's anytime soon
Dec 13 04:38:41 <Ukto>	and so far
Dec 13 04:38:44 <Ukto>	they have been ++ right
Dec 13 04:39:20 <dub>	im not sure what the answer is, I guess an upgrade path or a buyback but the investors are goign to have ot share some of the loss
Dec 13 04:39:29 <Ukto>	exactly
Dec 13 04:39:40 <Ukto>	there were bonds that offered both flavours
Dec 13 04:39:46 <Ukto>	ppl who dont belive in asics, etc
Dec 13 04:39:49 <Ukto>	got to choose 100%
Dec 13 04:39:53 <Ukto>	thats the gamble
Dec 13 04:39:54 <Ukto>	right?
Dec 13 04:40:42 <dub>	yeah, they are buying a peice of the mining hardware, if that hardware never breaks even why should the investor
Dec 13 04:40:45 <Ukto>	people are allowed a choice? :/
Dec 13 04:41:22 <dub>	unless you have Usaginsurance!
Dec 13 04:41:55 <Ukto>	FAIL
Dec 13 04:41:55 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 04:42:10 <Ukto>	he defaulted
Dec 13 04:42:11 <Ukto>	right?
Dec 13 04:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056781 = 2.4535 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:42:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16921 @ 0.00056807 = 9.6123 BTC [+]
Dec 13 04:42:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4808 @ 0.00056861 = 2.7339 BTC [+]
Dec 13 04:42:56 <Ukto>	oooh
Dec 13 04:42:57 <Ukto>	dub
Dec 13 04:42:59 <Ukto>	dood
Dec 13 04:43:02 <Ukto>	you gave me an AWSOME idea
Dec 13 04:43:32 <Ukto>	I should make a site, taking bets, w/ payout ratios, based on when BFL will start shipping :P
Dec 13 04:44:12 <Ukto>	put a 2wk max @ 2:1 :P
Dec 13 04:44:50 <Ukto>	would I get a scammer tag for that? :P
Dec 13 04:45:13 <dub>	use betsofbitcoin
Dec 13 04:45:33 <Ukto>	?
Dec 13 04:45:56 *	Ukto does have a btc lotto project I wanna work on soon tho
Dec 13 04:46:17 <Ukto>	min 100btc jackup (with a wallet preloaded), and a 1/1000 chance to win
Dec 13 04:46:35 <dub>	http://betsofbitco.in/ theres lots of bfl will ship when type bets
Dec 13 04:46:40 <Ukto>	fully transparant
Dec 13 04:47:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056845 = 2.4563 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6279 @ 0.00056861 = 3.5703 BTC [+]
Dec 13 04:47:41 <Ukto>	thats a nice site
Dec 13 04:47:45 <Ukto>	i give whoever made it props
Dec 13 04:47:48 <Ukto>	great idea
Dec 13 04:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00056344 = 2.9581 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:57:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056056 = 2.4222 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3979 @ 0.00056039 = 2.2298 BTC [-]
Dec 13 04:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00056027 = 2.4372 BTC [-]
Dec 13 05:06:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056049 = 2.4219 BTC [+]
Dec 13 05:06:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00056027 = 1.641 BTC [-]
Dec 13 05:08:33 <pigeons>	https://btct.co/security/GOLD
Dec 13 05:09:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3143 @ 0.00056843 = 1.7866 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 05:29:35 <Diablo-D3>	I need admin powers
Dec 13 05:33:55 <Diablo-D3>	there are bfl posts everywhere that need to be dealt with
Dec 13 05:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00056756 = 2.1567 BTC [-]
Dec 13 05:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1178 @ 0.00056843 = 0.6696 BTC [+]
Dec 13 06:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9131 @ 0.00056861 = 5.192 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 06:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4986 @ 0.0005604 = 2.7942 BTC [-]
Dec 13 06:23:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4128 @ 0.00056027 = 2.3128 BTC [-]
Dec 13 06:23:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13012 @ 0.00056019 = 7.2892 BTC [-]
Dec 13 06:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00056009 = 0.5601 BTC [-]
Dec 13 06:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53 @ 0.00056008 = 0.0297 BTC [-]
Dec 13 06:24:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056043 = 2.4216 BTC [+]
Dec 13 06:24:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19329 @ 0.00056008 = 10.8258 BTC [-]
Dec 13 06:46:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00056637 = 1.6142 BTC [+]
Dec 13 06:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3318 @ 0.00056008 = 1.8583 BTC [-]
Dec 13 06:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6882 @ 0.00055966 = 3.8516 BTC [-]
Dec 13 06:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 921 @ 0.00057038 = 0.5253 BTC [+]
Dec 13 06:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7018 @ 0.00057054 = 4.004 BTC [+]
Dec 13 06:54:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8878 @ 0.00057067 = 5.0664 BTC [+]
Dec 13 06:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5611 @ 0.0005707 = 3.2022 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 07:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057045 = 2.4649 BTC [-]
Dec 13 07:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5441 @ 0.0005707 = 3.1052 BTC [+]
Dec 13 07:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3988 @ 0.00057102 = 2.2772 BTC [+]
Dec 13 07:16:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057083 = 2.4666 BTC [-]
Dec 13 07:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1935 @ 0.00057102 = 1.1049 BTC [+]
Dec 13 07:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13644 @ 0.00057146 = 7.797 BTC [+]
Dec 13 07:20:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11922 @ 0.00057146 = 6.8129 BTC [+]
Dec 13 07:20:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78 @ 0.0005717 = 0.0446 BTC [+]
Dec 13 07:20:56 <EskimoBob>	"Diablo-D3 | there are bfl posts everywhere that need to be dealt with" - why?
Dec 13 07:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.0005717 = 5.9743 BTC [+]
Dec 13 07:23:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5582 @ 0.00334312 = 18.6613 BTC [-]
Dec 13 07:23:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00334136 = 8.0193 BTC [-]
Dec 13 07:26:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00056776 = 6.5292 BTC [-]
Dec 13 07:26:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055997 = 2.4196 BTC [-]
Dec 13 07:26:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4998 @ 0.00055966 = 2.7972 BTC [-]
Dec 13 07:26:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2694 @ 0.00055949 = 1.5073 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 07:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1668 @ 0.00333738 = 5.5667 BTC [-]
Dec 13 07:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1797 @ 0.00335085 = 6.0215 BTC [+]
Dec 13 07:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 630 @ 0.003395 = 2.1389 BTC [+]
Dec 13 07:48:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00056274 = 1.3506 BTC [+]
Dec 13 07:56:19 *	PsychoticBoy (~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 13 07:57:55 <PsychoticBoy>	so shit sirrers
Dec 13 08:01:30 <PsychoticBoy>	stelletje kanker mongolen op dat forum
Dec 13 08:02:20 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Dec 13 08:03:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1921 @ 0.00056249 = 1.0805 BTC [-]
Dec 13 08:03:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.0005625 = 11.9813 BTC [+]
Dec 13 08:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00056275 = 10.7485 BTC [+]
Dec 13 08:03:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10462 @ 0.00056419 = 5.9026 BTC [+]
Dec 13 08:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056212 = 2.4289 BTC [-]
Dec 13 08:16:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18653 @ 0.00056207 = 10.4843 BTC [-]
Dec 13 08:24:58 <PsychoticBoy>	yeah goat now they are trying to pin me
Dec 13 08:25:10 <PsychoticBoy>	see scam accusations
Dec 13 08:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056397 = 2.4369 BTC [+]
Dec 13 08:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5638 @ 0.00056419 = 3.1809 BTC [+]
Dec 13 08:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1370 @ 0.0005717 = 0.7832 BTC [+]
Dec 13 08:28:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/further-futures-on-mpex/ << moar futures.
Dec 13 08:40:24 <Ukto>	I wa getting Graet
Dec 13 08:40:34 <Ukto>	I think theymos should make a Troll tag
Dec 13 08:40:41 <Ukto>	and let ppl donate towards it on ppl
Dec 13 08:40:49 <Ukto>	so you would donate X btc to (person)
Dec 13 08:40:55 <Ukto>	once that person earns 10btc in troll donations
Dec 13 08:40:59 <Ukto>	they get Troll tagged
Dec 13 08:41:00 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 08:41:01 <Graet>	getting Graet ? i'm a Bitcoin-asset? you are floating me?
Dec 13 08:41:02 <Graet>	lol
Dec 13 08:41:11 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 13 08:41:17 <Ukto>	yes
Dec 13 08:41:20 <Ukto>	now shut up and get back in the box
Dec 13 08:41:24 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 08:41:25 <Graet>	k
Dec 13 08:41:57 <PsychoticBoy>	and a fussy prick tag
Dec 13 08:42:15 <Ukto>	need a club for ppl accused of being scammers that got away
Dec 13 08:42:16 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 08:42:19 <PsychoticBoy>	and a special one for MPOE-PR
Dec 13 08:42:59 <Ukto>	well
Dec 13 08:43:09 <Ukto>	I think I made some big progress for BF tonight
Dec 13 08:43:12 <Ukto>	(almsot 8am)
Dec 13 08:43:26 <Ukto>	looks like I may have 1~3 new assets for BF
Dec 13 08:43:30 <PsychoticBoy>	lets call it a I got nothing to do so lets pollute some threads with bullshit¨ tag
Dec 13 08:43:47 <Ukto>	PsychoticBoy: you should take a brether and relax :P
Dec 13 08:43:50 <Ukto>	your venting. :P
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Dec 13 08:43:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00056505 = 3.5598 BTC [-]
Dec 13 08:43:56 <PsychoticBoy>	indeed
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Dec 13 08:44:37 <PsychoticBoy>	some ppl on the forum make my blood boil, not only mpoe but lots of other mentally disabled ppl
Dec 13 08:44:50 <Ukto>	for some people, its their job
Dec 13 08:44:50 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 08:44:53 <Ukto>	but i hear you
Dec 13 08:44:55 <PsychoticBoy>	hehe
Dec 13 08:44:57 <Ukto>	I am backing off from the forums a bit
Dec 13 08:45:11 <PsychoticBoy>	I should too, but cant I am a mod
Dec 13 08:45:20 <Ukto>	SCAMMER MOD
Dec 13 08:45:21 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 08:45:24 <PsychoticBoy>	:D
Dec 13 08:45:32 <Ukto>	you should set that as a title
Dec 13 08:45:34 <Ukto>	SCAMMER MOD
Dec 13 08:45:34 <PsychoticBoy>	heil to the king baby
Dec 13 08:45:34 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 08:45:44 <Ukto>	just shuev it ppls faces
Dec 13 08:45:56 <PsychoticBoy>	probably will make some ppl moar mad
Dec 13 08:45:57 <Ukto>	could mean any number of things
Dec 13 08:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056228 = 2.4296 BTC [-]
Dec 13 08:45:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5879 @ 0.00056208 = 3.3045 BTC [-]
Dec 13 08:46:03 <Ukto>	so?
Dec 13 08:46:10 <Ukto>	isnt that the point of forums?
Dec 13 08:46:12 <Ukto>	to make ppl mad?
Dec 13 08:46:34 <PsychoticBoy>	I dont care any more, ppl are taking to much drugs (silk road) bitcoin is bad hmmkay
Dec 13 08:46:57 <Ukto>	ys Mr. Garrison.
Dec 13 08:47:06 <PsychoticBoy>	look at the replies ppl make on the forum, cant be natural
Dec 13 08:47:28 <Ukto>	wait
Dec 13 08:47:31 <Ukto>	wrong character
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Dec 13 08:47:55 <Ukto>	Mr  Mackey
Dec 13 08:47:56 <Ukto>	there
Dec 13 08:48:00 <PsychoticBoy>	indeed
Dec 13 08:48:10 <Ukto>	havent watched since season 3 or so
Dec 13 08:48:29 <PsychoticBoy>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCDnR6Px-co
Dec 13 08:48:56 <Ukto>	thought I did catch an episde of garrison as a woman screaming "Yeah! I'm a monkey! give this money what she wants! Put it in my monkey hole!"
Dec 13 08:49:17 <Ukto>	didnt know monkey hole was a real term for smething until then
Dec 13 08:53:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056504 = 2.4415 BTC [+]
Dec 13 08:53:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8891 @ 0.00056505 = 5.0239 BTC [+]
Dec 13 08:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	what's this with mpoe-pr ?
Dec 13 08:59:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10309 @ 0.00056505 = 5.8251 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 09:01:59 <Ukto>	i think he was venting lol
Dec 13 09:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto omg learn to set your client blinking !
Dec 13 09:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6201 @ 0.00056772 = 3.5204 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:11:15 <Ukto>	I was watching a youtube video
Dec 13 09:11:15 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 09:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	productivity ftw :D
Dec 13 09:11:55 <Ukto>	>:P
Dec 13 09:11:59 <Ukto>	its 8am...
Dec 13 09:12:01 <Ukto>	no sleep yet
Dec 13 09:12:05 <Ukto>	was working out a deal for BF
Dec 13 09:12:21 <Ukto>	to get some good assets.. (kinda related to mpex) and trading volume
Dec 13 09:12:34 <Ukto>	but were still closing on the details. :)
Dec 13 09:13:17 <Ukto>	hoefully get to relesae details later today/tomorrow
Dec 13 09:14:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6304 @ 0.00056772 = 3.5789 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:14:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4771 @ 0.00056208 = 2.6817 BTC [-]
Dec 13 09:14:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6375 @ 0.00056207 = 3.5832 BTC [-]
Dec 13 09:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool
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Dec 13 09:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00057057 = 9.015 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 09:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00057057 = 1.7973 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30502 @ 0.0005717 = 17.438 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00057192 = 10.9809 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8562 @ 0.00057193 = 4.8969 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5059 @ 0.00057226 = 2.8951 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10899 @ 0.00057305 = 6.2457 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00057311 = 6.8773 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27419 @ 0.00057433 = 15.7476 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00057487 = 7.4158 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00057498 = 9.2572 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00057508 = 10.4952 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00057518 = 16.7953 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00057518 = 11.8199 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00057519 = 15.5876 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1543 @ 0.00057582 = 0.8885 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00057661 = 11.0997 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24613 @ 0.00057781 = 14.2216 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.00057795 = 13.8997 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.000578 = 5.9534 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00057817 = 13.0377 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00057821 = 10.4656 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25737 @ 0.00057858 = 14.8909 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00057868 = 12.3259 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00057954 = 4.1437 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00057959 = 6.3175 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00057969 = 5.0723 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13145 @ 0.00057996 = 7.6236 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 09:28:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20750 @ 0.00058009 = 12.0369 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00058024 = 7.4851 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.0005805 = 6.7338 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12256 @ 0.00058051 = 7.1147 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00058095 = 4.0376 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00058095 = 9.8181 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00058115 = 6.6832 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6989 @ 0.00058126 = 4.0624 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39550 @ 0.00058171 = 23.0066 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00058188 = 6.3425 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11427 @ 0.00058195 = 6.6499 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00058227 = 1.4266 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00058237 = 4.2513 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17045 @ 0.00058238 = 9.9267 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54350 @ 0.00058258 = 31.6632 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6257 @ 0.00058265 = 3.6456 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00058277 = 2.8556 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00058303 = 9.0953 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35234 @ 0.00058318 = 20.5478 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4347 @ 0.00058376 = 2.5376 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00058378 = 4.0281 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00058407 = 17.6389 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00058481 = 6.7253 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22294 @ 0.00058493 = 13.0404 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24811 @ 0.00058536 = 14.5234 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00058574 = 11.2169 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17998 @ 0.00058607 = 10.5481 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00058667 = 9.5334 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25071 @ 0.00058681 = 14.7119 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00058699 = 14.2345 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00058726 = 8.2216 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00058784 = 9.6406 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4396 @ 0.00058787 = 2.5843 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29666 @ 0.00058799 = 17.4433 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5814 @ 0.00058862 = 3.4222 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00058907 = 2.1207 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.0005891 = 16.6126 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00058962 = 13.3549 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21633 @ 0.00059022 = 12.7682 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00059089 = 5.7021 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13209 @ 0.00059167 = 7.8154 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15444 @ 0.00059263 = 9.1526 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00059349 = 6.7955 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 847980 @ 0.0006 = 508.788 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:29:48 <kakobrekla>	...
Dec 13 09:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	yum
Dec 13 09:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	first btc corp to 1mn ? race ya!
Dec 13 09:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	The expected starting date of chips
Dec 13 09:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	manufacturing is late August to September, 2012. The chips are supposed to be
Dec 13 09:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	deployed and start hashing in October to November, 2012.
Dec 13 09:34:42 <mircea_popescu>	there's nothing quite as grand as reading old asic corps threads.
Dec 13 09:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00059638 = 10.9138 BTC [-]
Dec 13 09:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10235 @ 0.0006 = 6.141 BTC [+]
Dec 13 09:42:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.0006 = 4.56 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 09:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9821 @ 0.0006 = 5.8926 BTC [+]
Dec 13 10:08:10 <sgnb>	mircea_popescu: why not currency futures?
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Dec 13 10:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.0005994 = 4.3157 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 10:21:30 <Chaang-Noi>	4chan now takes bitcoin https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/29831358   :)
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Dec 13 10:31:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20956 @ 0.0006 = 12.5736 BTC [+]
Dec 13 10:37:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.0005994 = 4.5554 BTC [-]
Dec 13 10:37:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00059725 = 6.4503 BTC [-]
Dec 13 10:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34465 @ 0.0006 = 20.679 BTC [+]
Dec 13 10:45:21 <B0g4r7>	A million is chump change.  Go for a quadrillion like those derivatives guys.
Dec 13 10:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.47526087 = 475.2609 BTC [-]
Dec 13 10:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.40134783 = 401.3478 BTC [-]
Dec 13 10:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25837 @ 0.0006 = 15.5022 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 10:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 well i was talking about mkt value not about notional trade. also, 1 mn btc = 1 quadrillion soon enough :D
Dec 13 10:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	sgnb working on it.
Dec 13 10:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30950 @ 0.00059725 = 18.4849 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 11:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.DEC] 1 @ 0.0327929 BTC
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Dec 13 11:04:35 <B0g4r7>	lol asics.  So now ngzhang has confirmed that Avalon is also skipping the MPW step and going directly to full wafer production.
Dec 13 11:04:38 <B0g4r7>	Madness.
Dec 13 11:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	they have no clue what they're doing.
Dec 13 11:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059757 = 2.5821 BTC [+]
Dec 13 11:06:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8079 @ 0.00059725 = 4.8252 BTC [-]
Dec 13 11:06:48 <B0g4r7>	Kinda looks like way, for all 3 vendors.
Dec 13 11:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	"vendors"
Dec 13 11:07:59 <thestringpuller>	I thought of that meme with the dog holding the test tubes
Dec 13 11:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	as an aside :
Dec 13 11:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 13 11:08:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.62001, Best ask: 13.62002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.62001, 24 hour volume: 36800.77371952, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.79989, 24 hour vwap: 13.61761
Dec 13 11:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 10.552 * 13.61761
Dec 13 11:08:16 <B0g4r7>	BTC++
Dec 13 11:08:16 <gribble>	143.69302072
Dec 13 11:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	btc is now 2x as large as egold ever was at its peak.
Dec 13 11:10:40 <thestringpuller>	but there are still no big revenue streams for btc
Dec 13 11:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	define revenue streams ?
Dec 13 11:13:24 <B0g4r7>	revenue stream defines you!
Dec 13 11:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 13 11:14:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00059991 = 1.9797 BTC [+]
Dec 13 11:18:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5260 @ 0.00059725 = 3.1415 BTC [-]
Dec 13 11:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00059638 = 4.2343 BTC [-]
Dec 13 11:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3640 @ 0.00059161 = 2.1535 BTC [-]
Dec 13 11:21:20 <mircea_popescu>	i'm curious actually when will mpex dividend payments outstrip mining revenue for that month
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Dec 13 11:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol 4chan now takes btc
Dec 13 11:45:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1356 @ 0.00332457 = 4.5081 BTC [-]
Dec 13 11:45:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2144 @ 0.00332298 = 7.1245 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 12:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00059991 = 0.6125 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24429 @ 0.0006 = 14.6574 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18677 @ 0.0006 = 11.2062 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1699 @ 0.00060004 = 1.0195 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:04:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00060004 = 5.7604 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:05:56 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: cash flow is a better term, albeit a great volume of capital flows through btc, most btc transactions are satoshi dice...
Dec 13 12:06:23 <thestringpuller>	btc needs to be used for large payments and create some kind of cashflow climate
Dec 13 12:06:35 <mircea_popescu>	i think we're all working towards that.
Dec 13 12:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14149 @ 0.00060004 = 8.49 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00060106 = 3.7867 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00060152 = 14.7372 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.0006124 = 6.2465 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:07:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16107 @ 0.00061252 = 9.8659 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:10:50 <thestringpuller>	well you will be the first the btc VC's
Dec 13 12:10:55 <thestringpuller>	of the*
Dec 13 12:11:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ACOG] 175 @ 0.05713408 = 9.9985 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:11:46 <thestringpuller>	however my concern is that as btc businesses grow, those business owners won't want to invest in other companies, due to the astronomical chance of losing money
Dec 13 12:12:08 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Which one was that? asicminer?
Dec 13 12:12:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INKG] 44 @ 0.07458535 = 3.2818 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic undefined antecedent
Dec 13 12:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller depends a lot on what busienss and who runs them
Dec 13 12:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	nobody will ever want to invest in childish glbse-level bullcrap.
Dec 13 12:13:44 <PsychoticBoy>	mircea could you asked that hooker of yours to quit crapping on forum threads since she/he/you are/is fucking annoying
Dec 13 12:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 600 @ 0.23166011 = 138.9961 BTC [-]
Dec 13 12:13:56 <mircea_popescu>	PsychoticBoy what's this about ?
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Dec 13 12:14:04 <PsychoticBoy>	MPOE-PR
Dec 13 12:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	yes ?
Dec 13 12:14:16 <PsychoticBoy>	is on Ignore btw
Dec 13 12:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	kay ?
Dec 13 12:14:53 <PsychoticBoy>	but if that shit stirrer got nothing bright to say, then its better to say nothing
Dec 13 12:14:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ALCG] 500 @ 0.10144961 = 50.7248 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	seems to me you're doing it right now.
Dec 13 12:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	what did you have to say ?
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Dec 13 12:16:13 <PsychoticBoy>	1 thing: FU
Dec 13 12:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	right. the principle is good, stick with it : if you have nothing intelligent to say stfu.
Dec 13 12:16:33 <PsychoticBoy>	and your romainian crap
Dec 13 12:16:34 <B0g4r7>	There's a lot of that going around on the internets.
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Dec 13 12:16:58 <PsychoticBoy>	here in the west we puke on east european crap spewers
Dec 13 12:17:03 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: well glbse is akin to this asic nonsense, a lot of money just disappearing with nothing to show
Dec 13 12:17:23 <thestringpuller>	which is the symptom of a dying business, or an abomination that is called a business
Dec 13 12:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller if bfl actually croaks that'll be a valley of tears.
Dec 13 12:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	leaving alone that the two other asic troops came out with comparable news.
Dec 13 12:17:50 <thestringpuller>	but if nothing can be produced with the capital less people will be willing to invest
Dec 13 12:18:26 <thestringpuller>	people should start simple, like selling large amounts of commodities
Dec 13 12:18:30 <B0g4r7>	I wonder what the BFL books look like.  I understand they only caught up on FPGA orders long after they started taking asic money.
Dec 13 12:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 something like, +1-200k on fpga, +2ish mn from vc +3ish mn from pre-orders -.5 mn for expenses -2ish mn for failed run -.8mn for refunds
Dec 13 12:19:25 <B0g4r7>	I also wonder how many worthless million-dollar masksets they've bought so far.
Dec 13 12:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	so they still have some cash, on the positive side.
Dec 13 12:19:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: all I'm saying is that only a few businesses have sustainability and a sustainable income stream, you attract capital by creating jobs or creating "useful shit"
Dec 13 12:19:58 <B0g4r7>	Assuming they've not snorted it all.
Dec 13 12:20:05 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 yes, asuming that.
Dec 13 12:20:07 <thestringpuller>	how many positions you got open at MPEX ;)
Dec 13 12:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller well, creating jobs as a pretend-value proxy is a government racket.
Dec 13 12:20:33 <mircea_popescu>	busiensses in general create value not jobs.
Dec 13 12:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ISP5] 120 @ 0.10902456 = 13.0829 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:21:51 <thestringpuller>	i mispoke, i forget I"m speaking to mr. rothbard and not mr. keynes (i kid), value creates income streams in which other people can access a job is merely trading time and some kind of skill to contribute to the business in exchange for access to the revenue stream
Dec 13 12:21:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ASBG] 120 @ 0.11401584 = 13.6819 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller have you seen the http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc/ ?
Dec 13 12:22:26 <thestringpuller>	a business that creates sustainable value will have recurring revenue to show for it
Dec 13 12:22:30 <thestringpuller>	no i'm outof credits
Dec 13 12:23:52 <thestringpuller>	the thing about it is that most code review for large projects is done in house no?
Dec 13 12:24:16 <B0g4r7>	That's how we did it at the software house.
Dec 13 12:24:19 <thestringpuller>	i feel like your target market would be financial firms who connect to the banks
Dec 13 12:24:34 <B0g4r7>	The only external review was one "security audit" of some sensitive code.
Dec 13 12:25:29 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i feel as though this would be best suited for smaller projects
Dec 13 12:25:36 <thestringpuller>	like an indie game for instance
Dec 13 12:25:39 <B0g4r7>	Internally, on the other hand, every single commit got peer-reviewed, and went through rounds of revisions if recommended, before being merged into Trunk.
Dec 13 12:25:43 <thestringpuller>	or an app for a small business
Dec 13 12:27:01 <thestringpuller>	so the most credible programmer I know atm writes compilers
Dec 13 12:27:10 <thestringpuller>	he charges 50-80 USD an hour
Dec 13 12:27:14 <thestringpuller>	if not more
Dec 13 12:27:29 <thestringpuller>	you'd need like 4 of those
Dec 13 12:27:56 <thestringpuller>	so your base expense is like like what 32000 a month?
Dec 13 12:28:04 <thestringpuller>	you'd need a lot of clients
Dec 13 12:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059936 = 2.5898 BTC [-]
Dec 13 12:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 429 @ 0.00059905 = 0.257 BTC [-]
Dec 13 12:32:31 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2012/12/13/two-track-thursdays-part-deux/
Dec 13 12:32:33 <jcpham>	music
Dec 13 12:33:22 <jurov>	hehe looks like genjix/amir has made some friends around here in slovakia
Dec 13 12:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	<B0g4r7> The only external review was one "security audit" of some sensitive code. << this is exactly it tho
Dec 13 12:33:50 <jurov>	i just got an information "amir is going to organize another bitcoin conference"
Dec 13 12:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha fuckwit.
Dec 13 12:34:06 <jurov>	"but in novemnber, he wants to have 2000 paople there"
Dec 13 12:34:08 <jurov>	lmao
Dec 13 12:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	<thestringpuller> so your base expense is like like what 32000 a month? << that's 2k btc. no big deal.
Dec 13 12:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	but at any rate an indie game is no small project.
Dec 13 12:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	games are some of the most complex projects
Dec 13 12:36:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ACCA] 3 @ 0.18677491 = 0.5603 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:38:05 <thestringpuller>	lets make a bet then
Dec 13 12:38:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15871 @ 0.00059905 = 9.5075 BTC [-]
Dec 13 12:38:14 <thestringpuller>	or lets make a game then*
Dec 13 12:38:23 <thestringpuller>	and move dem units
Dec 13 12:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059167 = 2.5566 BTC [-]
Dec 13 12:39:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15860 @ 0.00059161 = 9.3829 BTC [-]
Dec 13 12:39:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5489 @ 0.00059133 = 3.2458 BTC [-]
Dec 13 12:39:24 <B0g4r7>	My brother makes indie games.
Dec 13 12:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	meh. that teppy guy made a game, it looks pretty grim.
Dec 13 12:40:31 <thestringpuller>	i'm talking about a game to compete with Rockstar mang
Dec 13 12:40:41 <thestringpuller>	once you make one and you own the studio
Dec 13 12:40:57 <thestringpuller>	then you can sit around and make crazy shit all day
Dec 13 12:41:03 <thestringpuller>	which you already likely do
Dec 13 12:41:19 <B0g4r7>	Compete with rockstar huh.
Dec 13 12:41:33 <B0g4r7>	I'll bet a lot of Rockstar's success can be attributed to slick marketing.
Dec 13 12:41:40 <thestringpuller>	naw man
Dec 13 12:41:51 <thestringpuller>	they almost went under when EA went on an acquisition spree
Dec 13 12:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	i never played rockstar
Dec 13 12:42:15 <thestringpuller>	but they built a lot of stuff in house that likely sells for quite a bit
Dec 13 12:42:16 <B0g4r7>	Rockstar Studios, makers of GTA, Manhunt, and other fucked-up titles.
Dec 13 12:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	a gta stuff
Dec 13 12:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	i think i played some nude/porn mod for it for 5 minutes
Dec 13 12:43:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059211 = 2.5585 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00059221 = 2.8598 BTC [+]
Dec 13 12:43:57 <jcpham>	hot coffee
Dec 13 12:44:06 <B0g4r7>	I played it for a while.  It gets old in a hurry for me.
Dec 13 12:44:40 <B0g4r7>	I much prefer to play Zelda or similar.
Dec 13 12:45:15 <mircea_popescu>	i still play heroes 2 to this day
Dec 13 12:45:17 <mircea_popescu>	with the girls
Dec 13 12:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059153 = 2.556 BTC [-]
Dec 13 12:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4584 @ 0.00059133 = 2.7107 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 13:01:46 <midnightmagic>	06:34 < mircea_popescu> there's nothing quite as grand as reading old asic corps threads.    <-- to which corp are you referring?
Dec 13 13:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	a, that was asicminer indeed.
Dec 13 13:03:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.EHOG] 59 @ 0.22696117 = 13.3907 BTC [+]
Dec 13 13:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059168 = 2.5566 BTC [+]
Dec 13 13:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3380 @ 0.00059133 = 1.9987 BTC [-]
Dec 13 13:06:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00059055 = 6.3484 BTC [-]
Dec 13 13:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8233 @ 0.00059 = 4.8575 BTC [-]
Dec 13 13:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,calc 30000
Dec 13 13:08:14 <gribble>	use the 'gentime' command instead
Dec 13 13:08:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;gentime 30000
Dec 13 13:08:19 <gribble>	The average time to generate a block at 30000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3370181.79928, is 5 days, 14 hours, 1 minute, and 34 seconds
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Dec 13 13:17:41 <dub>	jurov: you should organise to film someone reasonably eloquent challenging Amir on his bitcoin 'expertise'
Dec 13 13:19:16 <jurov>	maybe mpoe-pr can come from timisoara, it's just 500km to here... not sure if i'll be able to pay her, tho :)
Dec 13 13:19:29 <jurov>	perhaps we can collect
Dec 13 13:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 13 13:20:24 <dub>	I vote we send Mircea
Dec 13 13:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	where is this, bratislava ?
Dec 13 13:20:33 <jurov>	yea
Dec 13 13:21:04 *	mircea_popescu goes to bratislava, ends up chocolate shopping in wien
Dec 13 13:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	tru story.
Dec 13 13:21:51 <jurov>	haha. infact the chocolate fatory is in kittsee right here over the border
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Dec 13 13:25:57 <jurov>	*factory
Dec 13 13:26:23 <thestringpuller>	timisoara, bratislava
Dec 13 13:26:25 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 13 13:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	nono, you had it right. fatory.
Dec 13 13:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135542319974.png ahhhhh
Dec 13 13:27:58 <jurov>	hehe... i actually expected it few weeks earlier, so i got these loans
Dec 13 13:28:15 <jurov>	the day i repaid last of them, it went amok
Dec 13 13:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 13 13:28:50 <kakobrekla>	cause we bought with the repaid loan money!
Dec 13 13:28:54 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Dec 13 13:28:57 <jurov>	screw you
Dec 13 13:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Dec 13 13:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00055949 / 0.00058083 / 0.00061252 (4203825 shares, 2,441.74 BTC), 30day: 0.00048504 / 0.00051854 / 0.00061252 (102523166 shares, 53,162.72 BTC)
Dec 13 13:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	you borrowed like 10k ?
Dec 13 13:29:42 <jurov>	oh nooo, just some 240btc
Dec 13 13:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	well then kakobrekla is telling lies!!!1
Dec 13 13:29:57 <kakobrekla>	ofc i am.
Dec 13 13:30:04 <jurov>	heh
Dec 13 13:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	you boing-boing to this genjix thing jurov is organising ?
Dec 13 13:31:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00059 = 2.065 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 13:32:33 <jurov>	this was my reply translated "i want to make some money, not thrown down new world ordewr or wharever like amir. that will be just side effect"
Dec 13 13:32:58 <jurov>	oh no... my keyboard skillz
Dec 13 13:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.mattwhitlock.com/Bitcoin%20Inflation.png
Dec 13 13:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty useful, finally someone made it.
Dec 13 13:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	we're finally in the < 20% a year inflation, which makes us akin to developing countries.
Dec 13 13:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	by 2020 we'll be in the <5%
Dec 13 13:35:19 <jurov>	haha we have kinda developing country demographic, too
Dec 13 13:35:56 <jcpham>	YO I HEARD 4CHAN ACCEPTS BITCOIN NOW
Dec 13 13:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	jurov indeed. jcpham yeah. atlas' idea
Dec 13 13:36:55 <jcpham>	Pass purchasing is currently disabled, please come back in 2 hours.
Dec 13 13:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	@mods
Dec 13 13:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	Due to some confusion in writing correctly, this thread made fun & i lost my anger.
Dec 13 13:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	I request mods to delete this thread, as it has no use.
Dec 13 13:36:58 <mircea_popescu>	point in case.
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Dec 13 13:45:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 752 @ 0.00332298 = 2.4989 BTC [-]
Dec 13 13:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2448 @ 0.00332218 = 8.1327 BTC [-]
Dec 13 13:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00059 = 10.502 BTC [-]
Dec 13 13:52:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059217 = 2.5588 BTC [+]
Dec 13 13:52:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4511 @ 0.00059221 = 2.6715 BTC [+]
Dec 13 13:58:02 <Ukto>	grrr
Dec 13 13:58:26 <Ukto>	what does this stupid threat keep bumpig & resetting to unread even though its locked???
Dec 13 13:58:32 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109666.0
Dec 13 13:58:57 <kakobrekla>	hes somehow abusing this shit
Dec 13 13:59:22 <kakobrekla>	the guy is obviously retarded attention whore
Dec 13 13:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	unlock thread make post delete post lock thread
Dec 13 13:59:55 <Ukto>	any forum mods on hand?
Dec 13 14:00:02 <Ukto>	hes really gotten under my skin lately
Dec 13 14:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 of zee germanz
Dec 13 14:00:29 <kakobrekla>	lol
Dec 13 14:00:50 <Ukto>	knowing how late he was awake, hes gotta be asleeper by nice
Dec 13 14:01:05 <kakobrekla>	he should be called Siablo-S3
Dec 13 14:01:24 <Ukto>	do they mods actually check the 'report post' stuff ?
Dec 13 14:01:30 <Ukto>	or is that a days later thing
Dec 13 14:01:31 <kakobrekla>	no
Dec 13 14:01:38 <Ukto>	figures
Dec 13 14:03:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059219 = 2.5589 BTC [-]
Dec 13 14:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5929 @ 0.00059221 = 3.5112 BTC [+]
Dec 13 14:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.61654734 = 616.5473 BTC [+]
Dec 13 14:05:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.5342946 = 534.2946 BTC [+]
Dec 13 14:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2242 @ 0.00059009 = 1.323 BTC [-]
Dec 13 14:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.53425942 = 534.2594 BTC [-]
Dec 13 14:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.61651474 = 616.5147 BTC [-]
Dec 13 14:11:28 <thestringpuller>	that's so not itm
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Dec 13 14:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00059221 = 5.3595 BTC [+]
Dec 13 14:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4510 @ 0.00059221 = 2.6709 BTC [+]
Dec 13 14:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17598 @ 0.00059858 = 10.5338 BTC [+]
Dec 13 14:22:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2142 @ 0.00059925 = 1.2836 BTC [+]
Dec 13 14:29:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.00059009 = 1.2268 BTC [-]
Dec 13 14:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28995 @ 0.00059 = 17.1071 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 14:41:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.61641271 = 616.4127 BTC [-]
Dec 13 14:41:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.53414929 = 534.1493 BTC [-]
Dec 13 14:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005901 = 2.5498 BTC [+]
Dec 13 14:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24679 @ 0.00059 = 14.5606 BTC [-]
Dec 13 14:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105120.msg1396786#msg1396786
Dec 13 14:47:58 <mircea_popescu>	wtf ?!
Dec 13 14:49:13 <kakobrekla>	lame
Dec 13 14:49:24 <Namjies>	I would say trolling account?
Dec 13 14:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	maybe, who knows at this point
Dec 13 14:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00059 = 7.67 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 14:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	These bursts of high volume started the day after Erik came back from his meeting in Macau with casino owners.  Maybe casinos there are doing some robustness testing? It's pocket change for them.
Dec 13 14:54:36 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you know you might not be that far off
Dec 13 14:54:51 <mircea_popescu>	i know i wouldn't make an offer before i tried to break it.
Dec 13 14:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059295 = 2.5621 BTC [+]
Dec 13 14:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3279 @ 0.00059308 = 1.9447 BTC [+]
Dec 13 15:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059305 = 2.5626 BTC [-]
Dec 13 15:03:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6469 @ 0.00059308 = 3.8366 BTC [+]
Dec 13 15:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2545 @ 0.00059495 = 1.5141 BTC [+]
Dec 13 15:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059005 = 2.5496 BTC [-]
Dec 13 15:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7784 @ 0.00059 = 4.5926 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 15:13:49 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu   Whoever is doing the testing appears to be back!   http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Dec 13 15:13:57 <jcpham>	http://uchicagoadmissions.tumblr.com/post/37809971913/indiana-jones-mystery-package-we-dont-really
Dec 13 15:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	how much are they up yet ? 12k ?
Dec 13 15:15:44 <Bugpowder>	about 10,000 bet in the last hour
Dec 13 15:16:03 <Bugpowder>	with a 500 BTC loss for S.DICE
Dec 13 15:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	crazy
Dec 13 15:17:42 <Ukto>	0,o...
Dec 13 15:20:36 <mircea_popescu>	the sort of retarded shit kids do  today ;/
Dec 13 15:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	go eat a fucking bear ffs.
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Dec 13 15:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/XfhaQ.png lmao check out the spikedom
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Dec 13 15:34:43 <mircea_popescu>	SD Profit after fees:  16230.26831626 BTC (1.306%) end of nov
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Dec 13 15:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	SD Profit before fees:      20620.58601763 BTC (1.478%) 10 dec
Dec 13 15:34:59 <mircea_popescu>	+4.5k
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Dec 13 15:37:02 <Ukto>	when do divs get paid?
Dec 13 15:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	early jan
Dec 13 15:37:12 <pigeons>	so disappointed, i thought it was a dtng link
Dec 13 15:37:17 <Ukto>	good
Dec 13 15:37:29 <mircea_popescu>	sorry pigeons
Dec 13 15:37:34 <Ukto>	I am working on uhh.. making it possible to get sdice shares w/o having mpex account before then.
Dec 13 15:37:41 <Ukto>	hopefully by this weekend
Dec 13 15:37:46 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: no offense
Dec 13 15:37:46 <Ukto>	hehe
Dec 13 15:37:58 <Ukto>	patthru stuffs
Dec 13 15:37:59 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 15:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	what offense'd that be ?!
Dec 13 15:38:02 <Ukto>	like we discussed
Dec 13 15:38:13 <Ukto>	just the fact that I wont be buying directly on mpex hehe
Dec 13 15:38:25 <Ukto>	but
Dec 13 15:38:28 <Ukto>	you prefer being a wholesaler
Dec 13 15:38:30 <Ukto>	right?
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Dec 13 15:39:07 <Ukto>	fewer individuals, and more bulk users
Dec 13 15:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	for one glbse had a s.dice passthrough
Dec 13 15:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	i dun see any problem with it
Dec 13 15:39:43 <Ukto>	no
Dec 13 15:39:50 <Ukto>	i just ment sorry that I wont be directly giving you the fees
Dec 13 15:39:51 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 13 15:39:53 <mircea_popescu>	course, i don't see how you'd have a PT w/o actually holding the shares
Dec 13 15:40:10 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: hopefully "we" will annonce soon
Dec 13 15:40:11 <Ukto>	:)
Dec 13 15:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059871 = 2.587 BTC [+]
Dec 13 15:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14679 @ 0.0005989 = 8.7913 BTC [+]
Dec 13 15:40:20 <Ukto>	just waiting to work out the final details
Dec 13 15:40:36 <jurov>	coinbr will probably offer limited free account to finally get rid of this passthrough nonsense
Dec 13 15:40:52 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 13 15:41:01 <Ukto>	jurov: the PT is for a BF asset
Dec 13 15:41:02 <Ukto>	:)
Dec 13 15:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	jurov sounds more like some sort of synthetic offering
Dec 13 15:41:06 <Ukto>	i planto buy some shares myself
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Dec 13 15:41:59 <jurov>	ok, i don't hold my breath.  if you offered S.MPOE options/ futures, now that would be interesting
Dec 13 15:42:00 <Ukto>	but it would be an an mpex passthru to s.dice yes
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Dec 13 15:42:28 <Ukto>	as a passthrough asset? not really possibly... a fund that manages them.. sure.. but not direct passthroughs
Dec 13 15:42:40 <Ukto>	BF wasnt really setup with the idea of assets that regularly end
Dec 13 15:42:44 <Ukto>	wasnt the initial intention
Dec 13 15:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe futures i'd be curious about tbh
Dec 13 15:43:07 <Ukto>	not that its not doable mind you...
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Dec 13 15:43:18 <Ukto>	using the current functionality it woudl work just fine I suppose
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Dec 13 15:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i think futures may be doable. options tho... not so much
Dec 13 15:43:36 <Ukto>	just issue shares at X price... let ppl trade them.. and use force buyback and Y price
Dec 13 15:43:41 <Ukto>	or such
Dec 13 15:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	that didn't make sense
Dec 13 15:44:07 <Ukto>	...
Dec 13 15:44:11 <Ukto>	look who you are talking to
Dec 13 15:44:14 <Ukto>	why would it?
Dec 13 15:44:16 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 15:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Dec 13 15:45:43 <Ukto>	I have the otc-style btc/(aud/cad/usd) options on weex
Dec 13 15:46:01 <Ukto>	was debating transfering that code into BF for btc/(asset) options trading
Dec 13 15:46:31 <Ukto>	crypto did somethign similar.. doesnt seem to be getting used there
Dec 13 15:46:36 <Ukto>	but neither does their site in general
Dec 13 15:47:13 <pigeons>	i think the mpbor etf would be good too
Dec 13 15:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059882 = 2.5875 BTC [-]
Dec 13 15:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5871 @ 0.0005989 = 3.5161 BTC [+]
Dec 13 15:47:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12658 @ 0.00059925 = 7.5853 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 15:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00060049 = 0.9608 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 15:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	actually a mpbor etf is pretty much the only legitimate etf in btc space i can see
Dec 13 15:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	because it takes some thinking to get the capital split up right to optimize your reward
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Dec 13 15:51:29 <pigeons>	smickles: you do one
Dec 13 15:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol i think smickles is so happy for having escaped glbse he's not gonna for months
Dec 13 15:52:55 <pigeons>	yeah i figured
Dec 13 15:53:54 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 13 15:54:04 <Ukto>	anyone here know Cartnh? from the forums ?
Dec 13 15:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Dec 13 15:58:06 <Ukto>	Carnth even
Dec 13 16:02:49 <jcpham>	da one
Dec 13 16:02:56 <jcpham>	equals sign smickles
Dec 13 16:03:53 <jcpham>	smickles superb premium deluxe coin llc dot com
Dec 13 16:04:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Dec 13 16:09:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00060049 = 13.0607 BTC [+]
Dec 13 16:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00060136 = 11.3356 BTC [+]
Dec 13 16:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.0006018 = 1.2337 BTC [+]
Dec 13 16:12:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.0006018 = 5.0852 BTC [+]
Dec 13 16:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7398 @ 0.00060263 = 4.4583 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 16:20:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2151 @ 0.00060263 = 1.2963 BTC [+]
Dec 13 16:20:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6399 @ 0.00061001 = 3.9035 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 16:25:29 <Ukto>	burnside: you tehre?
Dec 13 16:25:48 <Ukto>	the bids tabe for an asset on btct.co is listing a price of ? 1.0E-5
Dec 13 16:37:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12076 @ 0.00059992 = 7.2446 BTC [-]
Dec 13 16:40:23 <kakobrekla>	being all scientific and shit
Dec 13 16:40:29 <kakobrekla>	ill implement that as well!
Dec 13 16:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 13 16:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	i was thinking of using base 7 for all numbers on mpex
Dec 13 16:41:08 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Dec 13 16:41:32 <kakobrekla>	i had a binary wrist watch
Dec 13 16:41:40 <kakobrekla>	well i still do, but i dont wear it
Dec 13 16:41:53 <kakobrekla>	its alright after some time you just go after the pattern
Dec 13 16:42:11 <mircea_popescu>	mhm
Dec 13 16:42:47 <kakobrekla>	i had this shit when i was 13 or smth
Dec 13 16:43:03 <kakobrekla>	fucked up kid.
Dec 13 16:43:12 <jcpham>	i feel sick when i sel my bitcoins
Dec 13 16:43:15 <jcpham>	is that normal
Dec 13 16:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Dec 13 16:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	thus i never sell any.
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Dec 13 16:44:37 <kakobrekla>	thats a good plan not errybody can follow
Dec 13 16:47:46 <dub>	[16:40] <mircea_popescu> i was thinking of using base 7 for all numbers on mpex
Dec 13 16:47:48 <jcpham>	sooner or later i have to sell something to profit
Dec 13 16:47:52 <dub>	what about tonal?
Dec 13 16:48:12 <kakobrekla>	just make it anal while you are at it.
Dec 13 16:48:21 <mircea_popescu>	to anal!
Dec 13 16:48:30 <jcpham>	anal numbering?
Dec 13 16:48:51 <markedathome>	kakobrekla: i'm sure one of these will be worth while programming a binary clockface for -> http://www.imwatch.it/us-en/eshop?cat=3cat/i_m_gold-scat
Dec 13 16:49:15 <dub>	;;ticker
Dec 13 16:49:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.75004, Best ask: 13.75005, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.75004, 24 hour volume: 23515.12067156, 24 hour low: 13.40011, 24 hour high: 13.80000, 24 hour vwap: 13.67913
Dec 13 16:49:25 <dub>	ffs go down
Dec 13 16:49:32 <jcpham>	ikr
Dec 13 16:49:39 <jcpham>	this always happens when i sell
Dec 13 16:50:03 <jcpham>	similarly if I were to buy them, the price would go down
Dec 13 16:50:09 <jcpham>	god hates me
Dec 13 16:50:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/high-finance-falootin/
Dec 13 16:50:15 <Ukto>	grrr
Dec 13 16:50:18 <Ukto>	that asshat did it again
Dec 13 16:50:18 <mircea_popescu>	for to piss off da haters
Dec 13 16:50:29 <Ukto>	relocked his thread to bump it
Dec 13 16:50:50 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: you awake yet? :P
Dec 13 16:52:31 <kakobrekla>	markedathome heh, well.. wristwatches... theres is a reason why i dont wear em.
Dec 13 16:52:53 <dub>	Ukto: he's generally not on IRC when asleep
Dec 13 16:52:54 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: I just got up, why?
Dec 13 16:53:12 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109666.0
Dec 13 16:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 283 @ 0.00332218 = 0.9402 BTC [-]
Dec 13 16:53:21 <Ukto>	the guy keeps bumping his thread
Dec 13 16:53:22 <Ukto>	over and over
Dec 13 16:53:25 <Ukto>	w/o reason
Dec 13 16:53:40 <Ukto>	was suggested hes unlocking, empty editing ro something, and locking it back
Dec 13 16:53:53 <Ukto>	he's done it at least 6 times that I have seen
Dec 13 16:54:24 <Ukto>	"Today at 03:25:26 PM with a smiley face
Dec 13 16:54:30 <Ukto>	he just keeps changing the emote it looks
Dec 13 16:54:58 <kakobrekla>	A VALID EDIT!
Dec 13 16:55:06 <kakobrekla>	his mood changed.
Dec 13 16:55:07 *	Ukto kicks kakobrekla :P
Dec 13 16:55:17 <Ukto>	this isnt failbook
Dec 13 16:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol his mood changed
Dec 13 16:55:31 <Ukto>	or myspace
Dec 13 16:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	why are you so aggressed anyway
Dec 13 16:56:05 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: Im not a mod in securities
Dec 13 16:56:07 <Ukto>	i am tired of it showing up as unread. :P
Dec 13 16:56:18 <Diablo-D3>	then just ignore the thread
Dec 13 16:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	or pm the guy
Dec 13 16:56:27 <dub>	yeah, Oh look the bitcoin forum is full of shit and syphalitic fuckheads, I am shocked!
Dec 13 16:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	he's prolly too noobish to even realise it.
Dec 13 16:56:33 <Ukto>	yeh I know
Dec 13 16:56:38 <jcpham>	what is happening
Dec 13 16:56:50 <Ukto>	call it annoyence at him just pumping extra advertisement for btct.co in a shitty way
Dec 13 16:56:52 <jcpham>	what am i missing on the forum!>!?!?!?
Dec 13 16:56:57 <Ukto>	i thnk thats the honesty behind it
Dec 13 16:57:07 <dub>	jcpham: for once there is some drama
Dec 13 16:57:14 <jcpham>	NO WAY
Dec 13 16:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	there is no drama
Dec 13 16:57:19 <Ukto>	<-- drama queen today
Dec 13 16:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	stop scamming him
Dec 13 16:57:21 <jcpham>	where can i get my popcorn
Dec 13 16:57:29 <dub>	someone doesnt like someone else on the internet, all is lost
Dec 13 16:57:35 <jcpham>	show me!
Dec 13 16:57:39 <jcpham>	IMPOSSIBRU
Dec 13 16:57:40 <Ukto>	dub: HE NEEDS SCAMMER TAG
Dec 13 16:57:41 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 13 16:57:59 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135537171038.jpg
Dec 13 16:58:13 <kakobrekla>	yeah errybody should get scammer tag by default when they register
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Dec 13 16:58:57 <jcpham>	yeah the girl that just came in loved that picture btw
Dec 13 16:59:01 <dub>	need a ff plugin to ignore everyone without decent wot rating
Dec 13 16:59:15 <kakobrekla>	forum will be like 5 posts then
Dec 13 17:00:37 <kakobrekla>	what forums needs is global shitlist groups
Dec 13 17:00:50 <kakobrekla>	so you have a bfl group and a mpex group and a hmm...
Dec 13 17:00:59 <kakobrekla>	and each group has a common ignore list
Dec 13 17:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 13 17:01:17 <kakobrekla>	then just decide whose camp you join
Dec 13 17:01:19 <mircea_popescu>	lets make forums more like highschool
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Dec 13 17:01:28 <dub>	it needs a wot
Dec 13 17:01:32 <dub>	web of tards
Dec 13 17:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	dub they wouldn't know how to use it
Dec 13 17:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	which is also true of cunt.
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Dec 13 17:02:03 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, anyone here capable of explaining ripple to me ?
Dec 13 17:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	cause it seems massively retarded.
Dec 13 17:02:13 <dub>	ignore if ignored by n*people I dont ignore
Dec 13 17:03:00 <dub>	bootstrap it with big list of tards (ie ~half the people on there)
Dec 13 17:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	you'd get bored tho
Dec 13 17:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	i think half the fun for ppl is the tards
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Dec 13 17:06:00 <dub>	yeah but you have a slider that controls n
Dec 13 17:06:48 <dub>	adjust if you are looking for info or a laugh at some tards
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Dec 13 17:09:33 <jurov>	someone needs to sell shirt with btc logo on front and "Every Day I Write Here The Name Of Someone Who Scammed Me" on back
Dec 13 17:10:26 <Diablo-D3>	jesus
Dec 13 17:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	dub : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130264.msg1398343 point in case
Dec 13 17:10:30 <Diablo-D3>	it'd be full by the end of the week
Dec 13 17:10:32 <jcpham>	i'm not sure about ripple mircea_popescu
Dec 13 17:10:36 <mircea_popescu>	I use Linux since 2001, so I know my stuff
Dec 13 17:10:45 <mircea_popescu>	 I just noticed the password is saved in my phone's browser.
Dec 13 17:10:54 <Diablo-D3>	DMC would need like 3 tshirts just to start with
Dec 13 17:11:02 <jcpham>	almsot seems like a way to extend credit in a p2p manner
Dec 13 17:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham what sense does that make ?
Dec 13 17:11:33 <jcpham>	no clue
Dec 13 17:11:41 <jcpham>	like p2p fractional reserve
Dec 13 17:12:20 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Dec 13 17:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	so basically this has all the disadvantages of getting married
Dec 13 17:13:02 <jcpham>	hahaha
Dec 13 17:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	and as an extra bonus, you don't marry a hot chick.
Dec 13 17:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a winner.
Dec 13 17:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	ifyou do credit might as well have a centra lbank.
Dec 13 17:14:05 <Diablo-D3>	I dont see why we keep trying to loan money
Dec 13 17:14:18 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, loaning money to businesses is one thing, loaning it to private citizens is another
Dec 13 17:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see the sense of btc loans either.
Dec 13 17:14:34 <Diablo-D3>	the reason the world financial system is falling apart is because we keep loaning people money
Dec 13 17:14:42 <Diablo-D3>	why repeat it with BTC
Dec 13 17:14:45 <jcpham>	iirc ripple allows o fund from many currencies
Dec 13 17:15:00 <Diablo-D3>	without all the fake bank fees, most of america would have a shitload of money
Dec 13 17:15:07 <jcpham>	so your stash would be how to vouch for other people or something?
Dec 13 17:15:17 <Diablo-D3>	the average american has $50k in debt
Dec 13 17:15:19 <jcpham>	i don't get it either because loaning people money has already burned me
Dec 13 17:15:27 <Diablo-D3>	the average american pays more than $50k of interest and fees in their lifetime
Dec 13 17:15:55 <jcpham>	i leverage my debt is funny USD all the time
Dec 13 17:16:00 <jcpham>	to increase my position
Dec 13 17:16:11 <jcpham>	i don't see how it works in ripple though
Dec 13 17:16:15 <jcpham>	seems rife for theft
Dec 13 17:16:20 <jcpham>	and fraud
Dec 13 17:17:11 *	jcpham has actually asked a bank for a half-mil
Dec 13 17:17:33 <jcpham>	and they gave it to me!
Dec 13 17:17:37 <Diablo-D3>	wait, what?
Dec 13 17:17:57 <jcpham>	do you not have a mortgage
Dec 13 17:18:10 <jcpham>	my bank owns my half-million dollar home
Dec 13 17:18:13 <jcpham>	until i pay them bank
Dec 13 17:18:31 <Namjies>	Ah, well if the lend it on a house...
Dec 13 17:18:33 <jcpham>	however now i have an expensive house to borrow against
Dec 13 17:18:59 <Namjies>	wait...
Dec 13 17:19:04 <Namjies>	nvm
Dec 13 17:19:32 <Namjies>	Buy lotta bitcoins now.
Dec 13 17:19:45 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: oh, thats not real money
Dec 13 17:19:52 <Diablo-D3>	I thought you meant they loaned you half a mil in real money
Dec 13 17:19:54 <jcpham>	free money
Dec 13 17:20:09 <Diablo-D3>	not free, now they can come and take your house any time they wish
Dec 13 17:20:16 <jcpham>	;p
Dec 13 17:20:44 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, all they have to do is go to a court, claim you failed to pay your mortgage for several months, and then give a false address to ship the court notice to
Dec 13 17:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 you know foreclosure is a net loss for a bank
Dec 13 17:21:15 <Diablo-D3>	you fail to show up to a court case you never were informed of, the bank gets a default judgement, then begins eviction
Dec 13 17:21:24 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: it should be illegal, really
Dec 13 17:22:16 <Diablo-D3>	why should a bank get the assets
Dec 13 17:22:33 <Diablo-D3>	if anything, the government should
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Dec 13 17:22:55 <Diablo-D3>	in virtually all cases, the government loaned the money to the bank to loan out in the first place
Dec 13 17:24:08 <Namjies>	By that logic, why not abolish banks and replace them with government owned banks? And extend that logic to just everything else?
Dec 13 17:24:34 <Namjies>	Cause all the money used to buy everything is the property of the government to start with so why wouldn't it own everything bought with it?
Dec 13 17:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130643.0
Dec 13 17:24:44 <mircea_popescu>	seems mtgox btc deposits down
Dec 13 17:24:50 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: well, we already DID do that
Dec 13 17:24:59 <Diablo-D3>	we replaced the entire industry with a piece of software
Dec 13 17:25:03 <mircea_popescu>	<Namjies> Cause all the money used to buy everything is the property of the government to start with so why wouldn't it own everything bought with it? << bullshit.
Dec 13 17:25:23 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: and no, if I have $10 actual dollars in my pocket, its mine
Dec 13 17:25:39 <Diablo-D3>	banks, unless they're very small regional banks or they're credit unions, are in debt to the government
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Dec 13 17:25:46 <Diablo-D3>	and that was pre-bailout
Dec 13 17:28:33 <jcpham>	i agree about it not being real money though
Dec 13 17:28:53 <Namjies>	Yes, so maybe instead the right thing to do would be not print money and give it to banks all the time.
Dec 13 17:29:02 <Diablo-D3>	well, "we" dont
Dec 13 17:29:08 <Diablo-D3>	the federal reserve does, which illegally prints money
Dec 13 17:29:37 <dub>	ITC: man that lives with his mom gives property investing advice
Dec 13 17:29:51 <Namjies>	Does "real money" actually exist?
Dec 13 17:30:18 <jcpham>	wow that's deep
Dec 13 17:30:58 <Namjies>	All money is always something we greatly overvalue compared to their inherent use or even complete uselessness. All for the sake of easier trading.
Dec 13 17:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	dub lol
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Dec 13 17:31:43 <Namjies>	No money has inherently the value it represents. It's all symbolic and trust.
Dec 13 17:31:47 <Diablo-D3>	dub: who?
Dec 13 17:32:20 <dub>	Diablo-D3: I don't know who else here lives with his mom and gives property investign advice
Dec 13 17:32:38 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu?
Dec 13 17:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	hm?
Dec 13 17:32:58 <dub>	he gave property advice?
Dec 13 17:33:11 <Diablo-D3>	dub: I dunno, who here is young enough to live with their mother?
Dec 13 17:33:29 <dub>	are you trying to say that you finally moved out?
Dec 13 17:33:41 <Diablo-D3>	moved out of where?
Dec 13 17:34:11 *	Diablo-D3 thinks dub is failtrolling
Dec 13 17:34:49 <dub>	last count you lived with your mom
Dec 13 17:34:57 <Diablo-D3>	my mom died of cancer.
Dec 13 17:35:02 <Diablo-D3>	good job there, dub.
Dec 13 17:35:06 <dub>	of course she did
Dec 13 17:35:35 <dub>	you need to bait less obviously
Dec 13 17:35:45 <dub>	but im sorry for your loss man
Dec 13 17:35:46 <mircea_popescu>	this is going well
Dec 13 17:37:37 *	dub gives Diablo-D3 a hug and friendly reacharound
Dec 13 17:39:08 <Diablo-D3>	I knew it! Dub works for bfl!
Dec 13 17:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059604 = 2.5755 BTC [-]
Dec 13 17:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15006 @ 0.00059589 = 8.9419 BTC [-]
Dec 13 17:43:41 <dub>	oh fuck
Dec 13 17:43:57 <dub>	lol I just fucked up
Dec 13 17:44:07 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 13 17:44:08 <dub>	fuck
Dec 13 17:48:33 <dub>	accidentally defaulted a whole router instead of just one of teh redundant routing engines
Dec 13 17:49:38 <Ukto>	what routing software are you using?
Dec 13 17:50:13 <jcpham>	relamen do it in assembly
Dec 13 17:50:42 <dub>	junos
Dec 13 17:54:11 <markedathome>	dub: sure you don't want to work for google?
Dec 13 17:55:04 <dub>	lolwat?
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Dec 13 17:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.003395 = 6.4505 BTC [+]
Dec 13 17:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00059589 = 2.3836 BTC [-]
Dec 13 17:56:54 <dub>	markedathome: I know some people in GOOGs network team, not sure I'd qualify
Dec 13 17:56:58 <markedathome>	google's crash earlier this week was due to misconfigured routing engines (for the chrome sync I think)
Dec 13 17:57:07 <dub>	oh
Dec 13 17:58:11 <markedathome>	i would hate to be on the SRE teams... "oh let's pull this out and see what happens to the live system"
Dec 13 17:58:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5139 @ 0.00059618 = 3.0638 BTC [+]
Dec 13 17:58:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059707 = 2.5799 BTC [+]
Dec 13 17:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16340 @ 0.0005972 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Dec 13 18:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 484 @ 0.0005972 = 0.289 BTC [+]
Dec 13 18:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17798 @ 0.0005996 = 10.6717 BTC [+]
Dec 13 18:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8586 @ 0.00060161 = 5.1654 BTC [+]
Dec 13 18:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18714 @ 0.00060161 = 11.2585 BTC [+]
Dec 13 18:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2864 @ 0.00060403 = 1.7299 BTC [+]
Dec 13 18:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5826 @ 0.00060692 = 3.5359 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 18:26:23 <pigeons>	scammers could get btcjam front scam ideas here: http://www.crowdcube.com/investment/bike-leasing-company-ltd-12291
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Dec 13 18:35:19 <Bugpowder>	The unlickiest S.DICE player?  http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1B5h9sf6xNLYGa3NBk48hwYbxyNZ22PRJk
Dec 13 18:35:57 <Bugpowder>	Another 1800 profit for S.DICE in the last 20 minutes
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Dec 13 18:39:31 <Namjies>	How do you check actual profits?
Dec 13 18:42:25 <Bugpowder>	Pull the data into an excel spread sheet and add the columns
Dec 13 18:42:26 <Bugpowder>	http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Dec 13 18:42:39 <Bugpowder>	Dooglas does a more complete job
Dec 13 18:42:55 <Bugpowder>	but this is good for the periods in between posts.
Dec 13 18:50:21 *	OgNasty (~OgNasty@ip72-201-191-190.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 13 18:51:27 <OgNasty>	Hello
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Dec 13 18:53:09 <kakobrekla>	hi
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Dec 13 18:55:10 <OgNasty>	Any NastyFans in here?
Dec 13 18:57:04 <kakobrekla>	came for your glory?
Dec 13 18:57:37 *	da2ce7 (~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 13 18:57:41 <OgNasty>	Came to answer any questions folks might have.  Live with the Og...
Dec 13 18:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060625 = 2.6196 BTC [-]
Dec 13 18:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9429 @ 0.00060609 = 5.7148 BTC [-]
Dec 13 19:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060632 = 2.6199 BTC [+]
Dec 13 19:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2829 @ 0.00060609 = 1.7146 BTC [-]
Dec 13 19:00:32 <pigeons>	OgNasty: are you gonna list on bitfunder?
Dec 13 19:00:34 <Ukto>	hey og
Dec 13 19:00:39 <Ukto>	hows thew nw club? :)
Dec 13 19:01:57 <OgNasty>	pigeons: bitfunder looked illegal to me... just like GLBSE...
Dec 13 19:02:13 <pigeons>	ok then
Dec 13 19:02:15 <OgNasty>	I have no desire to trust another random stranger with an illegal operation.
Dec 13 19:02:25 <OgNasty>	Perhaps a pass-thru in the future maybe...
Dec 13 19:02:34 <OgNasty>	Ukto: The club is going great so far.
Dec 13 19:02:50 <OgNasty>	Far superior to any competition.
Dec 13 19:03:17 <kakobrekla>	competition to what?
Dec 13 19:05:06 <OgNasty>	kakobrekla: Exactly.
Dec 13 19:06:36 <OgNasty>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0
Dec 13 19:06:53 <OgNasty>	kakobrekla: Link to topic of discussion.
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Dec 13 19:11:48 <OgNasty>	Even gigavps runs in fear.  lol
Dec 13 19:14:25 <OgNasty>	Looks like that's all the questions...
Dec 13 19:14:36 <OgNasty>	Take care bitcoiners.  Stay safe.
Dec 13 19:14:56 <kakobrekla>	we are asseteers.
Dec 13 19:15:06 <OgNasty>	bitcoin-asseteers
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Dec 13 19:16:17 <dub>	the mighty corolla once again has a contiguous exhaust system
Dec 13 19:17:00 <dub>	no longer giving the impression of a passenger jet driving down teh road
Dec 13 19:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00332571 = 5.82 BTC [-]
Dec 13 19:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00060609 = 13.8492 BTC [-]
Dec 13 19:32:34 <dub>	http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
Dec 13 19:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6692 @ 0.00060609 = 4.056 BTC [-]
Dec 13 19:38:27 <kakobrekla>	too slow
Dec 13 19:40:31 <Diablo-D3>	 "Don't worry, I was trained by special ops." "I don't care if you were trained by ninjas, my mother has eyes in the back of YOUR head"
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Dec 13 19:49:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19608 @ 0.00060583 = 11.8791 BTC [-]
Dec 13 19:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7042 @ 0.00060692 = 4.2739 BTC [+]
Dec 13 19:52:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1667 @ 0.00060264 = 1.0046 BTC [-]
Dec 13 19:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1763 @ 0.00060127 = 1.06 BTC [-]
Dec 13 19:54:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00060127 = 10.6425 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2437 @ 0.00060127 = 1.4653 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00060124 = 12.2653 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9013 @ 0.00059816 = 5.3912 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2487 @ 0.00059816 = 1.4876 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:06:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6644 @ 0.00059589 = 3.9591 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:06:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17266 @ 0.00059431 = 10.2614 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 20:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00060154 = 6.3162 BTC [+]
Dec 13 20:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00060154 = 11.5496 BTC [+]
Dec 13 20:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3723 @ 0.00060154 = 2.2395 BTC [+]
Dec 13 20:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3532 @ 0.00060692 = 2.1436 BTC [+]
Dec 13 20:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00060725 = 5.4653 BTC [+]
Dec 13 20:24:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5198 @ 0.00060814 = 3.1611 BTC [+]
Dec 13 20:24:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060779 = 2.6263 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:24:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00060814 = 0.2913 BTC [+]
Dec 13 20:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059924 = 2.5893 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 690 @ 0.00059917 = 0.4134 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:30:35 <dub>	early footage of nefario http://i.imgur.com/VzOsR.gif
Dec 13 20:35:25 <Namjies>	What da fu...
Dec 13 20:36:04 <Namjies>	That kid probably either regrets this or find it really funny by now
Dec 13 20:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12310 @ 0.00059917 = 7.3758 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:36:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6426 @ 0.00059431 = 3.819 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 20:36:59 <Diablo-D3>	dub: the hell
Dec 13 20:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059454 = 2.569 BTC [+]
Dec 13 20:39:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5608 @ 0.00059431 = 3.3329 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:39:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13771 @ 0.00059419 = 8.1826 BTC [-]
Dec 13 20:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060787 = 2.6266 BTC [+]
Dec 13 20:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6829 @ 0.00060814 = 4.153 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 20:49:08 <Bugpowder>	Whoever is dropping the big coin on S.DICE better not make all their money back by the end of the month or I am gonna be pissed
Dec 13 20:55:46 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Dec 13 20:57:17 <Chaang-Noi>	talked to m00t yesterday about bitcoin :) pretty epic
Dec 13 20:57:27 <Chaang-Noi>	hell, he sent me some btc:)
Dec 13 20:58:01 <Diablo-D3>	lol moot
Dec 13 20:58:27 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, but he sent me btc for the failedattempt at the 4chan pass
Dec 13 20:58:29 <Chaang-Noi>	they take btc now
Dec 13 20:58:49 <Chaang-Noi>	m00t seems to be incharge of refunds
Dec 13 20:59:11 <Diablo-D3>	moot is in charge of ALL OF 4CHAN
Dec 13 20:59:31 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, but he does not do everything...
Dec 13 20:59:38 <Diablo-D3>	he still does most of it
Dec 13 20:59:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i see how handing out btc refunds however is something he would want to do
Dec 13 21:00:30 <Chaang-Noi>	id say he is active, but im pretty sure he does not do close to most of the work
Dec 13 21:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00060779 = 5.1358 BTC [-]
Dec 13 21:00:55 <Chaang-Noi>	been there about 10 years but never had direct contact with m00t, no need to i guess
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Dec 13 21:03:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12194 @ 0.00060814 = 7.4157 BTC [+]
Dec 13 21:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9109 @ 0.00060934 = 5.5505 BTC [+]
Dec 13 21:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060919 = 2.6323 BTC [-]
Dec 13 21:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15279 @ 0.00060934 = 9.3101 BTC [+]
Dec 13 21:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8235 @ 0.00061001 = 5.0234 BTC [+]
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Dec 13 21:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060807 = 2.6275 BTC [-]
Dec 13 21:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6979 @ 0.00060779 = 4.2418 BTC [-]
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Dec 13 21:16:09 <smickles>	any recent news?
Dec 13 21:16:47 <copumpkin>	I'm awesome
Dec 13 21:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 971 @ 0.00060779 = 0.5902 BTC [-]
Dec 13 21:16:51 <copumpkin>	does that count?
Dec 13 21:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.0006036 = 3.0053 BTC [-]
Dec 13 21:17:03 <Bugpowder>	satoshi dice is still getting insane action
Dec 13 21:17:36 <smickles>	copumpkin: well, only if you were the shit before. I'd say that sort of state change is noteworthy
Dec 13 21:17:48 <copumpkin>	wait, _the_ shit, or just shit?
Dec 13 21:17:53 <copumpkin>	cause it's amazing how different those are
Dec 13 21:18:07 <smickles>	_the_ shit ;D
Dec 13 21:18:09 <copumpkin>	lol
Dec 13 21:18:10 <copumpkin>	ok
Dec 13 21:20:09 <smickles>	Bugpowder: wow, yeah
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Dec 13 21:35:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060985 = 2.6352 BTC [+]
Dec 13 21:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 979 @ 0.00061001 = 0.5972 BTC [+]
Dec 13 21:39:47 <Bugpowder>	If this keeps up, shareholders are either going to get a 10% dividend this month or jack shit
Dec 13 21:40:14 <Bugpowder>	or something in between :-/
Dec 13 21:40:23 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Dec 13 21:40:24 <gribble>	Time since last block: 42 minutes and 45 seconds
Dec 13 21:40:32 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 13 21:40:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.65002, Best ask: 13.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 13.65001, 24 hour volume: 22675.12090777, 24 hour low: 13.46777, 24 hour high: 13.80000, 24 hour vwap: 13.68949
Dec 13 21:41:14 <Bugpowder>	Anybody have a favorite place to scrape BTC and futures prices from for a MM bot?
Dec 13 21:41:51 <kakobrekla>	mm?
Dec 13 21:42:02 <Bugpowder>	market maker
Dec 13 21:42:08 <kakobrekla>	a.
Dec 13 21:42:32 <Bugpowder>	thinking of providing some more liquidity for the market in some futures
Dec 13 21:42:35 <Bugpowder>	on mpex
Dec 13 21:42:48 <Bugpowder>	but need reliable scrapes.
Dec 13 21:42:55 <Bugpowder>	or a different source
Dec 13 21:42:58 <Bugpowder>	of data
Dec 13 21:55:09 <smickles>	Bugpowder: you don't like scraping btc prices from mtgox/bitcoincharts?
Dec 13 21:56:12 <smickles>	Bugpowder: and is http://finance.yahoo.com/rssindex good enough for the futures?
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Dec 13 21:58:39 <thestringpuller>	piamo
Dec 13 21:58:41 <Bugpowder>	I was scraping from bitcoincharts
Dec 13 21:58:44 <thestringpuller>	piano
Dec 13 21:58:51 <thestringpuller>	futures on piano
Dec 13 21:58:54 <Bugpowder>	for my google doc of my fund positions
Dec 13 21:58:56 <smickles>	err, that's the news feed on yahoo :|
Dec 13 21:59:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4182 @ 0.00060982 = 2.5503 BTC [-]
Dec 13 21:59:18 <Bugpowder>	I will check the yahoo thing
Dec 13 21:59:49 <Bugpowder>	I have been using barchart.com for the futures
Dec 13 21:59:58 <Bugpowder>	thanks for the suggestions
Dec 13 22:01:46 <plate>	what futures you tracking?
Dec 13 22:02:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060389 = 2.6094 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:02:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11029 @ 0.0006036 = 6.6571 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:02:34 <copumpkin>	I buy futures on forward contracts
Dec 13 22:04:43 <Ukto>	Buglouse: bitcoincharts is quickly becoming out of date
Dec 13 22:04:49 <Ukto>	tcatm has been very afkish
Dec 13 22:05:02 <Ukto>	he hasnt removed at least one dead exchange
Dec 13 22:05:19 <Ukto>	and has yet to add ours (emailed him a month ago)
Dec 13 22:05:30 <plate>	I fuck with forex
Dec 13 22:05:34 <plate>	but I used to do futures
Dec 13 22:05:50 <thestringpuller>	smickles
Dec 13 22:06:05 <Bugpowder>	plate I'm currently offering Gold, Nasdaq100 and Crude for sale on MPEX, but I haven't implemented a true market maker position yet
Dec 13 22:06:22 <thestringpuller>	you are doing futures on crude?
Dec 13 22:06:31 *	Keefe_ is now known as Keefe
Dec 13 22:07:09 <Bugpowder>	Trying to figure out what will have the most volume.  I thought those would, but people seem more into Corn and the Nikkei
Dec 13 22:07:48 <plate>	reallllly
Dec 13 22:07:50 <plate>	interesting
Dec 13 22:07:52 <Bugpowder>	Well MPEX is market making for all of their futures, but I am trying to bring the spread down a bit for buyers of those
Dec 13 22:07:55 <plate>	well
Dec 13 22:07:58 <plate>	if you want free money
Dec 13 22:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139 @ 0.00060982 = 0.0848 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9787 @ 0.00061001 = 5.9702 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:08:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3316 @ 0.00061091 = 2.0258 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:08:14 <plate>	ride out EUR/JPY to 112.. then if it holds there.. ride it to 120
Dec 13 22:08:46 <Bugpowder>	I'm only trading with bitcoin denominated securites now
Dec 13 22:09:00 <Bugpowder>	I want to win from a fiat perspective, even when I'm losing
Dec 13 22:09:05 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i'm not familiar with the crude market
Dec 13 22:09:41 <plate>	fiat.. isn't it all fiat?
Dec 13 22:09:46 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller  Here is the crude  http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=X.EWTI
Dec 13 22:09:47 <Bugpowder>	lol
Dec 13 22:09:50 <Bugpowder>	yeah ok
Dec 13 22:10:01 <Bugpowder>	relative to paper money
Dec 13 22:10:11 <plate>	anyhow
Dec 13 22:10:12 <Bugpowder>	err, gov backed currencies
Dec 13 22:10:19 <plate>	future ES... ride it to 1500
Dec 13 22:10:38 <Bugpowder>	I have plenty of exposure in SP500
Dec 13 22:10:43 <plate>	think its like 12.25 pip
Dec 13 22:10:43 <Bugpowder>	in dollars
Dec 13 22:10:46 <plate>	or some shit
Dec 13 22:10:54 <plate>	oh okay
Dec 13 22:11:10 <Bugpowder>	but trading is tough to win over the long term
Dec 13 22:11:38 <Bugpowder>	and bitcoin market is small enough that maybe I can play around being a MM and make a little on the spread
Dec 13 22:12:02 <thestringpuller>	smickles: help me raise capital for something awesome
Dec 13 22:12:27 <smickles>	what's the something awesome?
Dec 13 22:12:30 <plate>	europe is like an ATM right now
Dec 13 22:12:33 <plate>	fucking loving it
Dec 13 22:12:39 <thestringpuller>	smickles: help me raise capital for something awesome
Dec 13 22:13:14 <kakobrekla>	what do you mean plate
Dec 13 22:13:27 <Bugpowder>	give him money to gamble in Forex with
Dec 13 22:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061075 = 2.6391 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19284 @ 0.00061091 = 11.7808 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15646 @ 0.00061126 = 9.5638 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:13:47 <thestringpuller>	i dont speculate
Dec 13 22:14:05 <smickles>	EVERYBODY, PROJECT SPLENDIFEROUS IS LAUNCHING!!!1!! GET IN BY SENDING BTC TO 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6 NAO!1!
Dec 13 22:14:23 <smickles>	thestringpuller: ^ i'm helping :)
Dec 13 22:14:25 <dub>	wat
Dec 13 22:14:34 <kakobrekla>	i sent 22mil
Dec 13 22:14:36 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 13 22:14:42 <dub>	don't do that ffs
Dec 13 22:14:58 <dub>	im like, its smickles, has to be legit, send
Dec 13 22:15:09 <smickles>	thestringpuller: but srsly, do you have the good idea already?
Dec 13 22:15:12 <plate>	kakobrekla: market wise
Dec 13 22:16:36 <plate>	I'm long EUR/JPY.. euro is strengthening and yen is weakening
Dec 13 22:16:37 <thestringpuller>	a simple media company. i am currently pitching s tvshow/game to adult swim
Dec 13 22:17:01 <plate>	chinese currency is entering the forex markets in Feb '13
Dec 13 22:17:33 <thestringpuller>	when we finish the first phase of pre production for the pilot i can have sit downs with the script and potential studio financeers
Dec 13 22:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060383 = 2.6091 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1592 @ 0.0006036 = 0.9609 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3487 @ 0.0006022 = 2.0999 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:25:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14602 @ 0.00061126 = 8.9256 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:25:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2711 @ 0.00061131 = 1.6573 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:27:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000611 = 2.6401 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4939 @ 0.00061131 = 3.0193 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:27:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4640 @ 0.00061185 = 2.839 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:32:11 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I'm not sure that I can help out all that much with funding that sort of project
Dec 13 22:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00060399 = 1.51 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16175 @ 0.00061185 = 9.8967 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons : they made one of those bike leasing companies here
Dec 13 22:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	it failed so laughably...
Dec 13 22:43:47 <pigeons>	sounds perfect for a btcjam loan
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Dec 13 22:44:53 <pigeons>	hahaha
Dec 13 22:45:00 <pigeons>	http://www.crowdcube.com/investment/angel-alerts-ltd-12268
Dec 13 22:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ognasty club thing ?
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Dec 13 22:46:53 <pigeons>	ok i'm not telling anybody anymore of these, I'm just gonna start listing them on btct/cryptostocks/bitfunder
Dec 13 22:47:04 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> Whoever is dropping the big coin on S.DICE better not make all their money back by the end of the month or I am gonna be pissed <<< lol. y the haet ?!
Dec 13 22:47:10 <pigeons>	http://www.crowdcube.com/investment/trampooline-ltd-12051
Dec 13 22:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons list them as Nefario, Inc.
Dec 13 22:47:45 <pigeons>	yeah i think they will do best on btcjam
Dec 13 22:49:34 <pigeons>	i'll list as psychoticboy/gigavps/meni/mpoe
Dec 13 22:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00336629 = 4.8811 BTC [+]
Dec 13 22:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3350 @ 0.00336178 = 11.262 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	if you list as mpoe http://www.google.com/search?q=catfish+pigeons&complete=0
Dec 13 22:50:17 <pigeons>	i still can't believe you hire someone to do your trolling for you
Dec 13 22:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	<copumpkin> does that cunt? <<< which one ?
Dec 13 22:51:04 <copumpkin>	all of them!
Dec 13 22:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	also, who's plate ?
Dec 13 22:53:20 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> Well MPEX is market making for all of their futures << not at all ?
Dec 13 22:53:27 <Bugpowder>	no?
Dec 13 22:53:29 <Bugpowder>	who is?
Dec 13 22:53:36 <Bugpowder>	I guess it doesn't matter
Dec 13 22:53:39 <Bugpowder>	someone is
Dec 13 22:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea
Dec 13 22:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	but yeah, i said it then, i thought (iirc smickles asked ? )
Dec 13 22:55:04 <mircea_popescu>	mpex isn't mm-ing any of them
Dec 13 22:55:46 <Bugpowder>	It's interesting that the options MM clearly has very different assumptions about the future price of BTC than the futures MM
Dec 13 22:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059693 = 2.5793 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:55:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1278 @ 0.00059678 = 0.7627 BTC [-]
Dec 13 22:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	well that explains it lol
Dec 13 22:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	i don't even think it's mm-ing per se, i think people just threw some bids up
Dec 13 22:56:23 <Bugpowder>	devising hedging strategy
Dec 13 22:56:55 <Bugpowder>	Those bids disappear every few minutes and reappear, adjusted
Dec 13 22:57:05 <Bugpowder>	err
Dec 13 22:57:10 <Bugpowder>	maybe I'm thinking of the options
Dec 13 22:57:13 <Bugpowder>	nevermind
Dec 13 22:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	on futures ?
Dec 13 22:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	cause that'd indeed be mm-ing but so far haven't seen it
Dec 13 23:00:47 <pigeons>	mpex patented "invisible hand" order matching algorithm
Dec 13 23:01:21 <Bugpowder>	any advantage to doing SPLIT over MKOPT?  Or is Split just good for straddles and strangles?
Dec 13 23:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons invisible fist.
Dec 13 23:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder less fee.
Dec 13 23:01:50 <plate>	I thought patenting algos was a no-no because then you devulge the secret sauce
Dec 13 23:02:01 *	plate is now known as bonafide
Dec 13 23:02:13 <Bugpowder>	MKOPT is how much fee?
Dec 13 23:02:21 <pigeons>	you can have the secret, you need a tpm computer to run it
Dec 13 23:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	All MKOPT orders are assesed a 2% fee (SPLIT orders are free).
Dec 13 23:03:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006117 = 2.6432 BTC [+]
Dec 13 23:03:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 831 @ 0.00061185 = 0.5084 BTC [+]
Dec 13 23:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3048 @ 0.00061252 = 1.867 BTC [+]
Dec 13 23:03:17 <Bugpowder>	Ah, that is in a different place
Dec 13 23:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	ya, it's in the faq
Dec 13 23:03:30 <Bugpowder>	than the MKOPT description
Dec 13 23:03:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#12
Dec 13 23:03:40 <Bugpowder>	MKFUT fee is in the description
Dec 13 23:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	i guess im inconsistent
Dec 13 23:03:51 <Bugpowder>	hence my confusion
Dec 13 23:04:08 *	mircea_popescu adds to list.
Dec 13 23:04:19 <bonafide>	what's up mircea_popescu
Dec 13 23:04:34 <mircea_popescu>	s.mpoe
Dec 13 23:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	on the sad news front, seems nobody knows how to price the idiffs
Dec 13 23:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	not surprising i guess.
Dec 13 23:07:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060774 = 2.626 BTC [-]
Dec 13 23:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006076 = 2.6254 BTC [-]
Dec 13 23:07:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13008 @ 0.00060754 = 7.9029 BTC [-]
Dec 13 23:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theblaze.com/stories/they-finally-really-did-it-eu-okays-central-banking-authority-approves-greece-for-another-bailout/ heh
Dec 13 23:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	“Europe and the eurozone have proved that they are capable of eliminating the challenges that confront them,” said France’s socialist President Francois Hollande.
Dec 13 23:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	fucking socialists will drive us all in the hole
Dec 13 23:09:46 <bonafide>	you're right
Dec 13 23:09:56 <bonafide>	that and lazy people who want a handout
Dec 13 23:10:09 <bonafide>	I cant stand left wing nuts in the US
Dec 13 23:10:41 <mircea_popescu>	then the fuckwit french finance minister "lambasts" rich people
Dec 13 23:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	it's sickening, this.
Dec 13 23:10:54 <bonafide>	France: lets raise taxes to 75% on the rich!!!... theRich: okay lets move out of Franch
Dec 13 23:11:00 <bonafide>	now who are they left to tax?
Dec 13 23:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	they're left to whine.
Dec 13 23:11:15 <bonafide>	same with the US
Dec 13 23:11:21 <bonafide>	the rich will just get sick of taxes
Dec 13 23:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	it's like a stupid bitch that marries some rich dude, won't cook, he tells her she either gets with the programme or gets lost
Dec 13 23:11:30 <bonafide>	and leave and give up citizenship
Dec 13 23:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	she bitches
Dec 13 23:11:34 <bonafide>	then who's left to tax
Dec 13 23:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	then she gets served divorce papers
Dec 13 23:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	then she's all teary
Dec 13 23:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	well... shoulda fucken listen when we were jus' talkin'.
Dec 13 23:12:03 <bonafide>	mircea_popescu where you located?
Dec 13 23:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	romania
Dec 13 23:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	which seems will never actually join the eurozone at this rate.
Dec 13 23:12:30 <bonafide>	well that could be a good thing
Dec 13 23:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	it's been a pretty good thing so far.
Dec 13 23:12:49 <bonafide>	Germany will get sick of supporting Greece, Spain and soon France
Dec 13 23:13:10 <bonafide>	and will leave
Dec 13 23:13:10 <bonafide>	that will be the collapse of that
Dec 13 23:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	romania has miore gold than like,... australia
Dec 13 23:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	or kuwait, or brazil/argentina etc.
Dec 13 23:13:40 <bonafide>	AUD is strengthening tho
Dec 13 23:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	everyone's strengthening with this idiocy going on
Dec 13 23:13:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061222 = 2.6454 BTC [+]
Dec 13 23:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061246 = 2.6464 BTC [+]
Dec 13 23:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7458 @ 0.00061252 = 4.5682 BTC [+]
Dec 13 23:14:00 <bonafide>	not really
Dec 13 23:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	the us just announced 40+45 bn in crapola
Dec 13 23:14:14 <bonafide>	EUR, USD, and JPY are printing money like its a fad
Dec 13 23:14:24 *	bonafide lives in US
Dec 13 23:14:32 <bonafide>	I deal with left wing nuts all day
Dec 13 23:14:50 <bonafide>	people wanting free hand outs, expecting something for nothing
Dec 13 23:14:57 <bonafide>	drives me insane
Dec 13 23:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Dec 13 23:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	"o, it's just money". pfff.
Dec 13 23:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's not "just" money. it's money. you're just an idiot.
Dec 13 23:15:32 <bonafide>	they want to tax more to spend more
Dec 13 23:15:37 <bonafide>	uhmmm you need to reduce the debt
Dec 13 23:15:42 <bonafide>	instead of leveraging to the hill
Dec 13 23:16:04 <bonafide>	thanks for getting me all worked up haha
Dec 13 23:16:54 <Bugpowder>	hilt
Dec 13 23:17:34 <bonafide>	hilt*
Dec 13 23:17:36 <bonafide>	thanks
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Dec 13 23:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 13 23:18:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.67790, Best ask: 13.78850, Bid-ask spread: 0.11060, Last trade: 13.66412, 24 hour volume: 23631.23995353, 24 hour low: 13.46777, 24 hour high: 13.80000, 24 hour vwap: 13.69064
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Dec 13 23:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	creeping up huh.
Dec 13 23:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	"Generally, pushing the security down to the hardware level in conjunction with software provides more protection than a software-only solution. "
Dec 13 23:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	this is so stupid. wikipedia, land of the useful idiots. who came up with this ?
Dec 13 23:19:57 <bonafide>	some analyst at BAC said gold to be at 5000$/oz in two years
Dec 13 23:20:06 <bonafide>	with QE infinity in place, probably
Dec 13 23:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is btc will outpace gold on the long term
Dec 13 23:20:28 <bonafide>	with hyper inflation around the corner
Dec 13 23:20:36 <bonafide>	mircea_popescu that's abold statement
Dec 13 23:20:43 <bonafide>	a bold*
Dec 13 23:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	you can quote me on it
Dec 13 23:21:10 <bonafide>	depends on what these freaks decide with internet regulating
Dec 13 23:21:27 <bonafide>	an EMP can take out all of btc.. can't take out gold
Dec 13 23:22:09 <kakobrekla>	we have paper wallets
Dec 13 23:22:15 <kakobrekla>	all we need is paper blockchain
Dec 13 23:22:24 <kakobrekla>	one motherfuckin huge QR code
Dec 13 23:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Dec 13 23:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	emp can not take out btc
Dec 13 23:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	in fact, we could hash on slave labour if need be.
Dec 13 23:23:23 <mircea_popescu>	btc can be implemented to work over carrier pigeons tcp/ip stack reimplementation
Dec 13 23:23:36 <mircea_popescu>	with shaved headed monks doing the hashing by candlelight.
Dec 13 23:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	it's really 1100 cluny tech.
Dec 13 23:24:41 <bonafide>	haha
Dec 13 23:24:46 <pigeons>	;;google logopolis
Dec 13 23:24:47 <gribble>	Logopolis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logopolis>; Logopolis - TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki: <http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Logopolis>; Logopolis Part 1 - Video Dailymotion: <http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9qjrq_logopolis-part-1_shortfilms>
Dec 13 23:25:11 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3 ?
Dec 13 23:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060768 = 2.6258 BTC [-]
Dec 13 23:25:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 292 @ 0.00060754 = 0.1774 BTC [-]
Dec 13 23:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10773 @ 0.00060648 = 6.5336 BTC [-]
Dec 13 23:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	over 60 ?!
Dec 13 23:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	Figures released Thursday from the Greece’s statistics office showed unemployment at a record high of 24.8 percent in the third quarter of 2012
Dec 13 23:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	basically, five people in all of greece still work.
Dec 13 23:27:00 <Ukto>	heh
Dec 13 23:29:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00060668 = 1.6987 BTC [+]
Dec 13 23:31:22 <Bugpowder>		90.00000000 BTC for 90	O.BTCUSD.C140T contracts. 	90.00000000 BTC for 78	O.BTCUSD.P140T contracts.
Dec 13 23:31:24 <Bugpowder>	???
Dec 13 23:31:25 <Ukto>	...
Dec 13 23:31:39 <Ukto>	now that forum dick is chaning the emotes on posts in his own thread
Dec 13 23:31:44 <Bugpowder>	why the assymtry in the split?
Dec 13 23:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	well C140 is otm
Dec 13 23:32:36 <Bugpowder>	ah
Dec 13 23:32:41 <Bugpowder>	itm+1BTC
Dec 13 23:32:46 <mircea_popescu>	basically you get 90 btc's worth.
Dec 13 23:32:57 <mircea_popescu>	which for calls is always 90, but for puts varies with how itm they are
Dec 13 23:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	if you got 100's you'd have 200 puts or w/e
Dec 13 23:40:51 <smickles>	idiffs?
Dec 13 23:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	the diff futures
Dec 13 23:41:31 <smickles>	wha? when?
Dec 13 23:42:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol smickles. blink and you miss mpex news
Dec 13 23:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/further-futures-on-mpex/
Dec 13 23:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/high-finance-falootin/
Dec 13 23:42:57 <smickles>	ooooh, these look fun. I was dissapointed to see the diff options go just as I had figured out how to profit on them
Dec 13 23:43:18 <smickles>	third wednesday?
Dec 13 23:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	imm dates
Dec 13 23:44:29 <mod6>	I was uber busy today too, just got a chance to finally look at these :)
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Dec 13 23:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 13 23:45:33 <smickles>	this is like risk²
Dec 13 23:46:01 <mircea_popescu>	yes, they're very risky.
Dec 13 23:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	esp the far out one
Dec 13 23:48:25 <smickles>	:D
Dec 13 23:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2911 @ 0.00061218 = 1.7821 BTC [+]
Dec 13 23:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	but hey, with great risk comes great reward. you could in principle make ~70x your money in a year-ish
Dec 13 23:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	which is like... 4% a week ?
Dec 13 23:49:46 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.04**52
Dec 13 23:49:47 <gribble>	7.68658870733
Dec 13 23:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.038**52
Dec 13 23:49:55 <gribble>	6.95444349219
Dec 13 23:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	something like that.
Dec 13 23:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 280 @ 0.0040975 = 1.1473 BTC [+]
Dec 13 23:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 20 @ 0.0067 = 0.134 BTC [+]
Dec 13 23:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol aaand highest growth % goes to bvps
Dec 13 23:51:33 <Namjies>	hmm, the 20 is my fault. And that was my sale order -.-
Dec 13 23:51:57 <Namjies>	I wanted those 280 shares and wondered if I'd hit into my own sell order.
Dec 13 23:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 20 * 0.0067 * 0.002
Dec 13 23:52:45 <gribble>	0.000268
Dec 13 23:52:58 <mircea_popescu>	ty for the quarter mbtc!
Dec 13 23:53:26 <smickles>	alright, i've come up with a fair price for idiff.dec
Dec 13 23:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 13 23:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;gentime 1
Dec 13 23:54:17 <gribble>	The average time to generate a block at 1.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3370181.79928, is 458 years, 51 weeks, 5 days, 15 hours, 30 minutes, and 9 seconds
Dec 13 23:54:23 <mircea_popescu>	is it 3370181 ?
Dec 13 23:54:24 <Namjies>	Consider the fee a donation. (A decadent ~1/3 of a cent. Don't spend it all in one go!)
Dec 13 23:54:51 <smickles>	;;bc,stats
Dec 13 23:54:53 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 212143 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 1552 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 20 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3146223.08545920 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.64530067389
Dec 13 23:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	ahh, i nearly forgot, tomorrow the rota starts!
Dec 13 23:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	a new age in bitcoin bitchslapping!
Dec 13 23:55:23 <smickles>	really? there's a case to hear?
Dec 14 00:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1410 @ 0.00061218 = 0.8632 BTC [+]
Dec 14 00:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2690 @ 0.00061252 = 1.6477 BTC [+]
Dec 14 00:02:50 <smickles>	;;calc 200/[bc,diff]
Dec 14 00:02:50 <gribble>	5.93439796164e-05
Dec 14 00:03:01 <smickles>	;;calc 200000000/[bc,diff]
Dec 14 00:03:02 <gribble>	59.3439796164
Dec 14 00:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120N] 1 @ 0.37686567 BTC [+]
Dec 14 00:14:42 <mircea_popescu>	smickles not yet
Dec 14 00:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	wait a second
Dec 14 00:15:03 <smickles>	;;calc 2.9*8954
Dec 14 00:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 14 00:15:03 <gribble>	25966.6
Dec 14 00:15:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.74690, Best ask: 13.74691, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.74690, 24 hour volume: 22405.29779859, 24 hour low: 13.46777, 24 hour high: 13.80000, 24 hour vwap: 13.69301
Dec 14 00:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	 13.69301 *  0.00061252
Dec 14 00:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 13.69301 *  0.00061252
Dec 14 00:15:23 <gribble>	0.0083872424852
Dec 14 00:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120N] 1 @ 0.23017945 BTC [+]
Dec 14 00:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	omg creeping in on 10mn
Dec 14 00:16:49 <smickles>	I'd like to short it, but i dunno
Dec 14 00:17:09 <smickles>	i'd be like that one guy and netflix or soemthing
Dec 14 00:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	who ?
Dec 14 00:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol if anyone shorted a week ago they're in pain.
Dec 14 00:19:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00338548 = 6.771 BTC [+]
Dec 14 00:20:01 <smickles>	Whitney Tilson < mircea_popescu
Dec 14 00:20:19 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.0
Dec 14 00:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	so im getting hosed with sa traffic
Dec 14 00:20:37 <mircea_popescu>	who linked mpex ?
Dec 14 00:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	smickles amusingly, netflix not mentioned on his wiki page :DF
Dec 14 00:21:34 <smickles>	also, any miner large enough should be selling an amount of those xdiffs equal to the number 2([easiest shares per minute]*[minutes untill settlement])
Dec 14 00:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	whoa what ?!
Dec 14 00:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	how'd you figure that ?
Dec 14 00:22:13 <smickles>	they should sell at a price which is a little above the current diff
Dec 14 00:22:41 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it's simple arbitrage, sell the future, "buy" the shares
Dec 14 00:22:53 <smickles>	you reap the extrinsic value
Dec 14 00:23:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://vr-zone.com/articles/lights-out-boeing-creates-the-first-working-emp-bomb/18163.html we need to bomb boeing
Dec 14 00:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	smickles but you need some block reward factored in
Dec 14 00:24:32 <jcpham>	hello
Dec 14 00:24:49 <smickles>	25*[shares]/[current diff] then
Dec 14 00:25:09 <mircea_popescu>	except
Dec 14 00:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	a share is only worth 25/x
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Dec 14 00:26:49 <smickles>	;;calc 25/[bc,diff]
Dec 14 00:26:49 <gribble>	7.41799745205e-06
Dec 14 00:27:08 <smickles>	that's the current fair pps right now, correct?
Dec 14 00:28:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1521 @ 0.00060668 = 0.9228 BTC [-]
Dec 14 00:28:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4629 @ 0.00060648 = 2.8074 BTC [-]
Dec 14 00:28:41 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Dec 14 00:28:48 <mircea_popescu>	or maybe ?
Dec 14 00:29:00 <dub>	should be
Dec 14 00:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	ok so then it's [shares]*25
Dec 14 00:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	pure and simple ?
Dec 14 00:30:31 <smickles>	;;calc (2.9*(25/[bc,diff]))*8968*2
Dec 14 00:30:32 <gribble>	0.38584268667
Dec 14 00:30:42 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Dec 14 00:30:43 <gribble>	3370181.7992778
Dec 14 00:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060651 = 2.6207 BTC [+]
Dec 14 00:31:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6198 @ 0.00060648 = 3.759 BTC [-]
Dec 14 00:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9881 @ 0.00060111 = 5.9396 BTC [-]
Dec 14 00:31:26 <smickles>	so i should sell about a third of a contract at say 03400000 satoshi
Dec 14 00:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	smickles : you should post this novel sorcery as a comment in the futures post
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Dec 14 00:32:25 <bonafide>	provigil should be given to everyone
Dec 14 00:32:33 <smickles>	;;calc [bc,diff]*1.1
Dec 14 00:32:33 <gribble>	3707199.97921
Dec 14 00:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cache%3Ahttp://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3484374&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=5
Dec 14 00:32:47 <mircea_popescu>	someone can send me a dump of this ?
Dec 14 00:32:48 <smickles>	na, .037btc :D
Dec 14 00:36:43 <mircea_popescu>	for the record, iso name for btc would prolly be xbt or something
Dec 14 00:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	NOT btc.
Dec 14 00:37:05 <smickles>	well, when it happens, i may change
Dec 14 00:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	USD is called about 5 diff things in iso anyway
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Dec 14 00:38:59 <bonafide>	http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/usd-renminbi-futures.html
Dec 14 00:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060126 = 2.598 BTC [+]
Dec 14 00:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3441 @ 0.00060111 = 2.0684 BTC [-]
Dec 14 00:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	cme are such idiots. who told them e-micro can be 1/10 standard
Dec 14 00:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	wtf happened to 1/1000
Dec 14 00:42:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14455 @ 0.00060111 = 8.689 BTC [-]
Dec 14 00:43:00 <bonafide>	well it should be interesting
Dec 14 00:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14rk60/private_investigation_on_mtgox/ this is... hm.
Dec 14 00:53:54 <bonafide>	oh godddd reddit
Dec 14 00:54:07 <bonafide>	fucking left wing nuts
Dec 14 00:54:15 <bonafide>	site is pro-socialism
Dec 14 00:55:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 14 00:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	they're mostly highschooler/college undergrads/grads
Dec 14 00:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	what'd you expect ? they need tit.
Dec 14 00:55:47 <bonafide>	yea.. that's fucking the scariest part
Dec 14 00:55:53 <bonafide>	how does someone who goes to college
Dec 14 00:56:00 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: posted. let me know if i've made an ass of myself :D
Dec 14 00:56:02 <bonafide>	even remotely think socialism is good
Dec 14 00:57:28 <bonafide>	a friday rally of eur/jpy to 112 would be phenom
Dec 14 00:57:49 <smickles>	;;tslb
Dec 14 00:57:51 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 6 seconds
Dec 14 00:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	smickles proposed an example.
Dec 14 00:58:51 <bonafide>	what docs does mtgox require?
Dec 14 00:59:11 <bonafide>	that this guy is bitching about
Dec 14 01:00:03 <bonafide>	if he's so sure that the site is money laundering scam ran my criminals... why did he attempt to use it in the first place
Dec 14 01:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	bonafide ids i guess
Dec 14 01:01:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00060421 = 3.3534 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00060518 = 3.8732 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.0006123 = 2.2349 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:02:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 28175 @ 0.003395 = 95.6541 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 111259 @ 0.0034 = 378.2806 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:04:24 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 14 01:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00332218 / 0.00338831 / 0.0034 (176597 shares, 598.37 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00336838 / 0.0034 (2087328 shares, 7,030.92 BTC)
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Dec 14 01:08:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.bitcoinmonitor.com/
Dec 14 01:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	remarkable what small % of moving funds are mtgox trades
Dec 14 01:11:04 <Namjies>	I'm not really against socialism... at least not for the health/education part. Probably the only thing I approve spending for is education/health. I would not mind helping others for that. Money handouts however...
Dec 14 01:11:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 671 @ 0.0006123 = 0.4109 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16299 @ 0.00061252 = 9.9835 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2580 @ 0.00061382 = 1.5837 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies the problem with education paid for by other people is that it creates the disrespectful assholes we see today.
Dec 14 01:12:53 <smickles>	Namjies: is socialism divisible/severable like that?
Dec 14 01:12:53 <bonafide>	I agree education needs to spending
Dec 14 01:13:00 <bonafide>	but the teacher unions are ridic
Dec 14 01:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	i would rather have millions of smart kids die iliterate than billions of idiot kids think it's ok to give their opinions when adults talk.
Dec 14 01:13:10 <bonafide>	exactly! smickles!
Dec 14 01:13:29 <Namjies>	How does free education creates those disrespectful assholes?
Dec 14 01:13:46 <mircea_popescu>	because they don't risk anything. goes to school, doesn't learn, no big deal
Dec 14 01:14:00 <bonafide>	appropriations are never given where they're given
Dec 14 01:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	if going to school was an exception, and his only chance out of the slum and something he'd work hard for, it'd be different.
Dec 14 01:14:16 <bonafide>	you create one social net and then before you know it.. it's like the aids virus
Dec 14 01:14:17 <Namjies>	You mean college/university free education or primary/high school education?
Dec 14 01:14:21 <bonafide>	everything has a social safety net
Dec 14 01:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	i mean primary school.
Dec 14 01:14:47 <mircea_popescu>	kid must know that if he's kicked out of school that means prison, digging ditches or sucking cock
Dec 14 01:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	and must know this aged 6.
Dec 14 01:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	and in general, kids must know they're worthless at a much earlier age than the current system
Dec 14 01:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	where they imagine they're the king of the world for the first 2-3 decades and then discover they really have no value.
Dec 14 01:15:39 <bonafide>	hahaha
Dec 14 01:15:44 <bonafide>	you're awesome
Dec 14 01:15:47 <bonafide>	love it!
Dec 14 01:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	the shock is psychologically scarring
Dec 14 01:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	they need to start with it earlier so it's softer.
Dec 14 01:16:16 <bonafide>	I'm so sick and tired of this self esteem crap
Dec 14 01:16:18 <Namjies>	Hmm... that sounds somewhat cliche. I don't see many people acting that way. I might be blind tho.
Dec 14 01:16:25 <bonafide>	giving awards to make kids feel included
Dec 14 01:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies well, we're discussing principle. impossible to attack with anecdote.
Dec 14 01:16:36 <Namjies>	But I do agree education is quite soft on kids.
Dec 14 01:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	problem with it being soft on kids is tghat there's nothing they can accomplish anymore.
Dec 14 01:16:50 <bonafide>	me, living in the US... I see people using depression as a scapegoat
Dec 14 01:17:03 <bonafide>	fucking... other countries its called hard on your luck.. get over it
Dec 14 01:17:57 <smickles>	hey, did greece recently issue a fuckload of bonds, then buy them all back at 30% par?
Dec 14 01:18:09 <smickles>	then issue another fuckload?
Dec 14 01:18:14 <bonafide>	something like that
Dec 14 01:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. that aside health i can see as a function of govt, in many cases. mostly trauma.
Dec 14 01:18:21 <bonafide>	think Germany gave them the money
Dec 14 01:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	smickles yes.
Dec 14 01:18:38 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: genius
Dec 14 01:18:49 <Namjies>	Regardless, I'd feel better off if even the worst individuals would still get that education. They're already bad enough with it.
Dec 14 01:18:54 <mircea_popescu>	i was ranting about how the eurozone is not good enough for romania to join earlier.
Dec 14 01:19:05 <smickles>	in that spirit, who want's to lend me 10000 btc?
Dec 14 01:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies no. this devalues education for everyone else.
Dec 14 01:19:15 <bonafide>	Namjies: the problem is... some people just dont want to learn
Dec 14 01:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone can eat pie this devalues my pie.
Dec 14 01:19:52 <Namjies>	So what? If they can't afford it, don't educate them?
Dec 14 01:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Dec 14 01:20:34 <smickles>	I think that means homeschooling
Dec 14 01:20:37 <Namjies>	I can hardly see how I can expect a 5 year old kid to pay his first year of primary school. The whole costs...
Dec 14 01:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	not the govt job. if rich people want to pay for their education let them
Dec 14 01:20:44 <mircea_popescu>	but don't tax for it.
Dec 14 01:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00061345 = 7.5148 BTC [-]
Dec 14 01:21:12 <mircea_popescu>	if his parents suck he's screwed.
Dec 14 01:21:17 <bonafide>	social promotions within schools shouldnt exist either
Dec 14 01:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	this gives parents an incentive to not suck.
Dec 14 01:21:44 <bonafide>	mircea_popescu: exactly... survival of the fittest
Dec 14 01:21:58 <bonafide>	instead of weeding out the idiots, now we encourage them to strive
Dec 14 01:22:09 <Namjies>	Right... so instead of helping the kid into society, exclude it because his parent sucks and don't care.
Dec 14 01:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Dec 14 01:22:18 <bonafide>	and we get a bunch of half ass dedicated people working, wanting handouts
Dec 14 01:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	society should be exclusive not inclusive.
Dec 14 01:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	if it's inclusive i don't want to be part of it
Dec 14 01:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	you end up stuck with the idiots and then fail.
Dec 14 01:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	you want to include the peaks not the bottoms.
Dec 14 01:22:40 <bonafide>	<mircea_popescu> society should be exclusive not inclusive.
Dec 14 01:22:43 <bonafide>	perfect
Dec 14 01:22:48 <bonafide>	couldn't have said it better myself
Dec 14 01:23:11 <Namjies>	I don't see why we should exclude good individuals on behalf their parents are retarded/bad.
Dec 14 01:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	"good"
Dec 14 01:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	they're not good if they parents suck.
Dec 14 01:23:52 <Namjies>	Stupid people don't all breed retards and rich people don't all breed bright individuals.
Dec 14 01:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	has nopthing to do with good.
Dec 14 01:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	intelligence is just part of the pie.
Dec 14 01:24:30 <Namjies>	Same goes for just about anything else.
Dec 14 01:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Dec 14 01:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	good is not unrelated, randomly occuring, fallen from the sky
Dec 14 01:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	good is worked and sweated towards.
Dec 14 01:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	no sweat, no good.
Dec 14 01:25:38 <Namjies>	Yes, but the 6 year old has no means to pay the costs of his education, even if he was a potent individual and was willing to.
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Dec 14 01:25:50 <mircea_popescu>	convince me he is and i might pay it.
Dec 14 01:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	but don't assume he is for me and expect i give you the money.
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Dec 14 01:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	a fine example : i made a contest on my blog, for peopel to write fiction. reward was 5btc minimum + up to 100
Dec 14 01:28:02 <bonafide>	mircea_popescu: I have an idea
Dec 14 01:28:13 <Namjies>	Hmm, such a thing would be impossible. We couldn't have a standard procedure to determine the desrving ones if each member of the society wanted that they personally approve of said person.
Dec 14 01:28:14 <mircea_popescu>	of the thousands of people who saw it and hundred+ that talked to me about it, i got 3 submissions.
Dec 14 01:28:16 <bonafide>	Namjies can self impose an 80% tax on himself
Dec 14 01:28:22 <bonafide>	so that he can support the kiddies
Dec 14 01:28:24 <mircea_popescu>	why ? cause people were busy dickingaround on facebook ? fuck that.
Dec 14 01:28:38 <mircea_popescu>	and the procedure SHOULD NOT be standard.
Dec 14 01:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	why standard? whoever has the money makes the rules.
Dec 14 01:28:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006071 = 2.6233 BTC [-]
Dec 14 01:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.0006074 = 2.8244 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8279 @ 0.00061382 = 5.0818 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:28:58 <mircea_popescu>	that is the very point of money : they who have it are smarter than you, and you should listen to them.
Dec 14 01:29:19 <pigeons>	jessica simpson has money
Dec 14 01:29:21 <bonafide>	the problem is now... even the people who aren't smart have money
Dec 14 01:29:24 <Namjies>	That seems innacurate.
Dec 14 01:29:40 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons bonafide only because of the current state sponsored moral hazard
Dec 14 01:29:41 <smickles>	Namjies: http://blog.smickles.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Shoes_header.jpg
Dec 14 01:29:47 <bonafide>	I know
Dec 14 01:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	sure, let's tax 50% of society and give it out to the worst least worthy recipients
Dec 14 01:29:56 <bonafide>	but it's a vicous cycle
Dec 14 01:30:00 <mircea_popescu>	then wonder why "stars" have money
Dec 14 01:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	well, cause you pump money into a cesspool.
Dec 14 01:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	money you stole.
Dec 14 01:31:06 <mircea_popescu>	if taxes were a reasonable 0.08% i guarantee you jessica simpson would be back to waitressing.
Dec 14 01:31:19 <Namjies>	Idiots get their hands on vast amount of money. Most often from more intelligent parents. Those idiots also tend to damage their heritage badly.
Dec 14 01:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e she does "profesionally"
Dec 14 01:31:33 <bonafide>	just look at the NFL, NBA
Dec 14 01:31:41 <bonafide>	they get multi-million dollar contracts
Dec 14 01:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies that problem is purely theoretical these days.
Dec 14 01:31:54 <bonafide>	and are just as broke as they were before when their careers end
Dec 14 01:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	bonafide yes, because the foodstamp fed multitudes have discretionary spending.
Dec 14 01:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	and i guess now i'm the go to rightest-wing guy in btc huh.
Dec 14 01:33:31 <Namjies>	Ah, but those idiots who make stars rich still have money. That means they either work or get handouts. If we abolish handouts, then that would happen regardless.
Dec 14 01:33:40 <bonafide>	nope
Dec 14 01:33:42 <bonafide>	I agree
Dec 14 01:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies if the money they spent came from their work it'd at least be defensible.
Dec 14 01:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	as in, music doesn't suck today, it's just i have divergent tastes to the world.
Dec 14 01:34:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00061366 = 2.3012 BTC [-]
Dec 14 01:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1637 @ 0.00338548 = 5.542 BTC [-]
Dec 14 01:35:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00336315 = 4.5403 BTC [-]
Dec 14 01:35:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 313 @ 0.00336178 = 1.0522 BTC [-]
Dec 14 01:36:36 <Namjies>	What about public infrastructure? Acceptable to fall on government's desk?
Dec 14 01:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies im pretty sure if given the same revenue (80% gas accise + car tax + etc) the public sector would be doing a much better job with roads
Dec 14 01:37:54 <mircea_popescu>	but this point is amply debatable because in fact large projects require large agents and at that size the diff between govt and corporation is mostly academic
Dec 14 01:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	the principles informing decisions are more important than the exact incorporation form.
Dec 14 01:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	but look here :  Sarah Ford, age 20, NY
Dec 14 01:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	 “I'm a young and involved activist about to start my double major in environmental studies and politics, and I'm very, very angry about what is going on in this country. I blame this country's problems on the exploitations of corporations and a blind worship of the "free market" and "self-regulating capitalism" (Tell me, how does that work again? Oh yeah, it doesn’t morons). Following the deregulation of the banki
Dec 14 01:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	ng sector and the repeal of Glass-Steagall (the financial regulation act that would have prevented the financial crisis), this country has gone down the drain.
Dec 14 01:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	this stupidcunt thinks she may have political opinions ? aged 20 ?
Dec 14 01:38:29 <mircea_popescu>	jesus god.
Dec 14 01:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	kids that aren't beaten enough develop this very superficial "we know shit" conviction, and then the result is btctalk lending & usagi financial expertise.
Dec 14 01:39:57 <bonafide>	mircea_popescu for president
Dec 14 01:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Dec 14 01:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 571 @ 0.00061366 = 0.3504 BTC [-]
Dec 14 01:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13041 @ 0.00061382 = 8.0048 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8488 @ 0.00061443 = 5.2153 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	just buy my stock lol
Dec 14 01:40:28 <Namjies>	Hmm. Again a bit cliche example.
Dec 14 01:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	which one ?
Dec 14 01:40:57 <Namjies>	The quoted one.
Dec 14 01:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	if it weren't so prevalent...
Dec 14 01:41:40 <mircea_popescu>	we've taken things too far. much too far. sure, confidence is a good thing, kids were opressed 50 years ago etc. but by now it's way overdone.
Dec 14 01:42:19 <mircea_popescu>	way, way overdone. college mostly consists of elderly people asking kids what they think. who the fuck cares what 20yos think ? they're dumb as rocks by the very definition.
Dec 14 01:43:35 <Namjies>	I've seen high-school/college level teachers having such teachings.
Dec 14 01:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, it works once a semester or something. but it can not be the whole curricula.
Dec 14 01:44:35 <Namjies>	I'm all for government having certain responsibilities. Others don't or want different responsibilities.
Dec 14 01:44:54 <mircea_popescu>	name one responsibility govt has ?
Dec 14 01:45:18 <mircea_popescu>	and then name one govt person who got into any sort of trouble for fucking up.
Dec 14 01:45:34 <Namjies>	It depends on the government... not all governments have the same responsibilities.
Dec 14 01:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	ya well...
Dec 14 01:46:42 <Namjies>	I was about to say, don't it all boil down to what priorities each individual has and what they are consequently willing or not willing to pay/be taxed for?
Dec 14 01:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	in all times and places government is this "we'll do our best, expect nothing in return" proposition.
Dec 14 01:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	this works great if we're a village of 100 people and most of them love the one guy in charge
Dec 14 01:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise...
Dec 14 01:48:09 <Namjies>	Well on that point, everything is easier to manage when it's small. For large country, where those in charge can have a hard time even seeing the consequence of their actions... it messes things up.
Dec 14 01:48:37 <Namjies>	It's also more complex. It conveniently allows to shift blame on a million other thing.
Dec 14 01:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	right-o.
Dec 14 01:49:12 <mircea_popescu>	but you know, just because something is impossible to do (large state) doesn't mean you should try anyway
Dec 14 01:49:16 <mircea_popescu>	it means you SHOULDNT TRY
Dec 14 01:50:41 <Namjies>	It might not be impossible... but so far large governments are very inneficient as far as I care.
Dec 14 01:50:50 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Dec 14 01:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	well, here's it from my pov : we dicked around for 100 years trying to make this welfare state work. it failed, pack it up.
Dec 14 01:51:34 <mircea_popescu>	i don't mind the experience, really, but it's unconscionable to pretend like it didn't happen.
Dec 14 01:51:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5244 @ 0.00061443 = 3.2221 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:51:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00061472 = 3.2888 BTC [+]
Dec 14 01:51:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17306 @ 0.00061539 = 10.6499 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 01:53:50 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu  Will the reserve requirements for X.IDIFF.MAR be reduced to 0.09777BTC/contract and released to the buyer following the close of this December's future?
Dec 14 01:54:49 <Bugpowder>	currently it is 0.283/BTC
Dec 14 01:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	the reserve requirements will be reduced for new contracts, but old contracts will be unchanged
Dec 14 01:55:44 <Namjies>	And on my point of view, I would like to offer every kid a chance at education regardless of the parent's means as well as health care. That would be purely based from personal priorities.
Dec 14 01:55:52 <Bugpowder>	how will buyers know if they are getting a contract with a higher limit or not?
Dec 14 01:55:56 <Namjies>	I however hardly approve cash handouts and I'm saddened by the inneficiency of government at providing.
Dec 14 01:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i would agree, but every deserving kid. it's important.
Dec 14 01:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder they don't. in case of margins overrun the contracts are awarded proportionally.
Dec 14 01:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	say there's 90 contracts at margin high, and 10 at margin low
Dec 14 01:56:44 <mircea_popescu>	say the low margin gets blown
Dec 14 01:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	everyone gets 10% of contracts liquidated.
Dec 14 01:57:37 <Namjies>	Yes. I'd approve with the deserving kid part. But there is an issue with that. If we exclude a kid for not making any effort/causing trouble, what do you do?
Dec 14 01:57:53 <mircea_popescu>	nothing.
Dec 14 01:58:02 <Bugpowder>	so the loss cap for any futures creator is based on the percentage of new vs. legacy contacts
Dec 14 01:58:11 <Bugpowder>	contracts
Dec 14 01:59:26 <mircea_popescu>	um
Dec 14 01:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	i think we're talking at crosspurposes. yiou mean for future asset buyer or creator.seller ?
Dec 14 02:01:08 <Namjies>	Well parents can't decide for their children how to act and neither can a kid do for his parent. Left out to the means of parents, kids who would be productive with proper education are left out. If we provide but exclude undeserving kids, but the parent are productive, they're left with a kid to provide for, which would also keep them away from work.
Dec 14 02:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	Well parents can't decide for their children how to << whart ?! why not ?
Dec 14 02:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5911 @ 0.00061539 = 3.6376 BTC [+]
Dec 14 02:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10739 @ 0.0006158 = 6.6131 BTC [+]
Dec 14 02:01:42 <Bugpowder>	asset creator has a max loss of the difference between the mean collatoral level and the price he sold it for
Dec 14 02:01:45 <Bugpowder>	right?
Dec 14 02:01:50 <Namjies>	They can't decide how they act.
Dec 14 02:02:10 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder yes, practically. as far as mpex is concerned at most he gets no collateral back, at best he gets all collateral back.
Dec 14 02:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies how they actually act or how they should act ?
Dec 14 02:03:05 <Namjies>	How they act. They can't control his brain as far as I'm aware.
Dec 14 02:03:30 <Namjies>	If the children is unwilling to behave regardless of what the parents do.
Dec 14 02:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	all children are born cowards.
Dec 14 02:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	an inability to make a kid act exactly the way you want is in general clear proof you're an idiot.
Dec 14 02:04:21 <Namjies>	There's always exception.
Dec 14 02:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	sure, but rather rare.
Dec 14 02:04:42 <Namjies>	Although we could consider that by having a child, you accept this possibility and choose to provide or do something with your child.
Dec 14 02:04:48 <Bugpowder>	So a price of over 0.097 for the MAR contract is not a guaranteed loss for an asset buyer on the open market, since collateral reqs are at 0.28 right now.  Will the buyer be able to know how many contracts are at the low and high level?  I imagine that would factor in risk/reward and purchase price calculations
Dec 14 02:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies no, we couldn't. having a kid is NOT a contract with the state.
Dec 14 02:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9511 @ 0.0006158 = 5.8569 BTC [+]
Dec 14 02:05:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7589 @ 0.000616 = 4.6748 BTC [+]
Dec 14 02:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder not other than by watching the market.
Dec 14 02:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	that aside, i agree the system is imperfect for these reasons, but i see no alternatives.
Dec 14 02:06:20 <Bugpowder>	just trying to figure it out.... some aspects are opaque
Dec 14 02:06:36 <Namjies>	A contract with the state? What are you talking about?
Dec 14 02:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	i mean i guess alternatively i could just shave the collateral each quarter, and return it.
Dec 14 02:06:50 <mircea_popescu>	that'd make it more fair ? maybe ?
Dec 14 02:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies as in, having a kid can not be considered a promise to anything nor an agreement to anything.
Dec 14 02:07:08 <Bugpowder>	Risk discovery would be easier
Dec 14 02:07:23 <Bugpowder>	for example, I was going to sell for .0888
Dec 14 02:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	having a kid is a sovereign right above and beyond any convention, much like breathing.
Dec 14 02:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder risk discovery would b easyer, but the risk of sudden collapse would be notable.
Dec 14 02:07:56 <Bugpowder>	but with this collateral scheme, I'm going to sell for over .097 to protect myself.
Dec 14 02:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	as in, quarter closes, all positions get wiped.
Dec 14 02:08:17 <Bugpowder>	but the buyer may not realize when the contract was struck
Dec 14 02:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder im really very much interested in discussing this in depth, i think it's very important.
Dec 14 02:09:23 <Bugpowder>	what about quarter closes, all margin reqs are reset to the new difficulty with the new multiplyer
Dec 14 02:09:32 <mircea_popescu>	the risk of collapse.
Dec 14 02:09:36 <Bugpowder>	anything that drops under that levels gets liquidated
Dec 14 02:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	suppose diff is above margin then. all positions = wiped.
Dec 14 02:09:55 <Bugpowder>	yes but that is known and predictable
Dec 14 02:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	but then we could just have a single 3 month contract that resets
Dec 14 02:10:07 <mircea_popescu>	no need for 4
Dec 14 02:10:07 <Bugpowder>	from the current diff level at the settlement date
Dec 14 02:10:30 <Namjies>	Yes, but if the government discharge a kid from the public system and returns it to it's parents... Wouldn't we consider that parents chose to be responsible? If they can't beat the life out of it/put it in a grinder, they have to do something with it.
Dec 14 02:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies who says they can;t ?
Dec 14 02:12:41 <Namjies>	Hmm, why could they?
Dec 14 02:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	their kid, their problem.
Dec 14 02:14:43 <Namjies>	If any parent can, then idiots would be permitted to kill their productive child be interpreting the child correcting their erros as disrespect. They could even kill him just because they feel like it.
Dec 14 02:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15704 @ 0.00061336 = 9.6322 BTC [-]
Dec 14 02:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Dec 14 02:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	it comes with it being THEIR kid
Dec 14 02:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	not yours and not the state's.
Dec 14 02:15:47 <Bugpowder>	Well there are other variations, like a margin level that is adjusted for all asset creators that reflects the mean of the margin requirements of the population of contracts at time each was struck. This current liquidation value could be displayed on the contract trading page.
Dec 14 02:15:58 <Bugpowder>	it would then adjust in a smooth manner
Dec 14 02:16:16 <Bugpowder>	but someone could trigger liquidation with a large order
Dec 14 02:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	so basically, display the mean collateral per contract ?
Dec 14 02:16:26 <Namjies>	If kids are property, then every human is property.
Dec 14 02:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	ya i was gonna say, that's risky.
Dec 14 02:16:42 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies kids aren't people yet.
Dec 14 02:16:47 <mircea_popescu>	if they are, then they can fuck and have a beer
Dec 14 02:16:50 <Namjies>	And as such, if a couple wants slaves, they can manufacture them.
Dec 14 02:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	if they can't legally have a beer, then don't tell me they're people.
Dec 14 02:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	and the entire history of positive pop growth over millenia was exactly it : manufacturing slaves.
Dec 14 02:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	take that away you get negative pop growth
Dec 14 02:18:19 <Bugpowder>	Well.  I gotta sleep.  I have put some trial contracts out for sale.   If they don't sell by next Weds, I wonder if potential buyers will understand that the contract is not an auto loss for them at my ask.
Dec 14 02:18:25 <Namjies>	Ah, so being legally allowed to have beer makes humans humans now? That's probably one of the weakest argument I've ever heard you say.
Dec 14 02:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder why autoloss ?
Dec 14 02:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	it's 9x innit ?
Dec 14 02:19:10 <Namjies>	It's not like you would believe the state can choose who can or cannot drink? That doesn't sound like you.
Dec 14 02:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 2.9**3 * 33
Dec 14 02:19:15 <gribble>	804.837
Dec 14 02:19:16 <Bugpowder>	yes
Dec 14 02:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	o just 80
Dec 14 02:19:26 <Bugpowder>	but next week
Dec 14 02:19:48 <Bugpowder>	people will think that any price over .097 is autoloss for MAR
Dec 14 02:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies yes, if you don't recognise them some rights then they're slaves.
Dec 14 02:19:58 <Bugpowder>	due to the new collatoral reqs
Dec 14 02:20:06 <Bugpowder>	for new contracts
Dec 14 02:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder an important point here is that i would imagine actual margins being blown to be rare.
Dec 14 02:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	do you think not so ?
Dec 14 02:20:32 <Bugpowder>	ha
Dec 14 02:20:40 <Bugpowder>	i do
Dec 14 02:20:55 <Bugpowder>	but many people are more optimistic about ASICs than I
Dec 14 02:21:01 <Bugpowder>	and they are my potential customers
Dec 14 02:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	this is a point.
Dec 14 02:22:03 <Namjies>	Hmm, well I don't approve of persons having sovereignty over life and death of any human being, even kids.
Dec 14 02:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies me either, but the fact remains once you strip humans of some rights you can't pretend they're still humans.
Dec 14 02:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	they're not. so, either kids can do what they please or else they're slaves. no synthetic middle of the road so we can argue both ways
Dec 14 02:24:13 <Namjies>	Well, yes, I would still do. It depends on what you consider "human" however. I'm using it refering to the specy.
Dec 14 02:24:23 <Namjies>	Not their legal/rights status.
Dec 14 02:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	i was using it in the social participation sense. citizen.
Dec 14 02:24:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 887 @ 0.00336178 = 2.9819 BTC [-]
Dec 14 02:24:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00333874 = 2.671 BTC [-]
Dec 14 02:24:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 346 @ 0.00332218 = 1.1495 BTC [-]
Dec 14 02:25:00 <midnightmagic>	That's not what the law says..
Dec 14 02:25:00 <Namjies>	Well I suppose they are indeed not really citizens.
Dec 14 02:25:10 <midnightmagic>	Kids have fundamental rights, and can sue for emancipation.
Dec 14 02:25:45 <midnightmagic>	They are only not citizens insofar as they can't vote and aren't held responsible for their own actions.
Dec 14 02:26:07 <midnightmagic>	But they do have human rights which are inalienable regardless of how old they are.
Dec 14 02:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic we're discussing the philosophy of it rather than the practice.
Dec 14 02:26:25 <midnightmagic>	Even so.
Dec 14 02:26:35 <mircea_popescu>	even so what ? you can't have half a whole apple.
Dec 14 02:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	either it's whole or else it's not.
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Dec 14 02:27:17 <Namjies>	You treat them the same way tho, wether they're half or whole. You treat it as food.
Dec 14 02:27:22 <midnightmagic>	I eat half an apple all the time.
Dec 14 02:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	but how you treat something speaks to you
Dec 14 02:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	not to the thing.
Dec 14 02:28:32 <mircea_popescu>	hence the distinction between practical (how society treats them) and philosophical (what they are)
Dec 14 02:28:53 <midnightmagic>	Consensus is a pretty powerful thing. Children are incapacitated people, until they either come into their responsibility, or prove they have it early.
Dec 14 02:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	consensus is a pretty socialist thing.
Dec 14 02:29:15 <midnightmagic>	Consensus is what society is.
Dec 14 02:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	truth is not something that is arrived at by consensus, nor is value.
Dec 14 02:29:30 <midnightmagic>	Reality is though.
Dec 14 02:29:37 <mircea_popescu>	nope, reality is not either.
Dec 14 02:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	and yes, consensus is society, which is what makes it dirty.
Dec 14 02:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	as a concept.
Dec 14 02:30:13 <midnightmagic>	If you have 99 people in a room repeating the same thing, the final will, 30% or so of the time, believe it too, even if their eyes tell them differently. Asche's conformity tests.
Dec 14 02:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9786 @ 0.00061336 = 6.0023 BTC [-]
Dec 14 02:30:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 464 @ 0.00061 = 0.283 BTC [-]
Dec 14 02:30:19 <midnightmagic>	So, yes, even reality is consensus.
Dec 14 02:30:30 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic no. the social representation of reality is consensus
Dec 14 02:30:36 <mircea_popescu>	which is just a little more circularity.
Dec 14 02:30:58 <midnightmagic>	When I say "reality" I mean, "What a single human believes is reality." Not the objectively measurable thing itself.
Dec 14 02:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	the romans were in agreement that they kick ass, just as odoacer marched in.
Dec 14 02:31:18 <mircea_popescu>	consensus is in general the best tool to identify when you're about to get fucked.
Dec 14 02:31:19 <Namjies>	But if society is not based on consensus, on what do you propose it be based?
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Dec 14 02:31:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061016 = 2.6365 BTC [+]
Dec 14 02:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i do not propose society not be based on consensus. i just say we need to understand thinking is an anterior, more important thing than society.
Dec 14 02:31:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1386 @ 0.00061 = 0.8455 BTC [-]
Dec 14 02:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11393 @ 0.00060668 = 6.9119 BTC [-]
Dec 14 02:32:04 <Namjies>	Quite.
Dec 14 02:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	and so what society does has no bearing on the thinking side of things.
Dec 14 02:32:33 <midnightmagic>	That would be a rationalist's point of view. Unfortunately most humans are not rationalists.
Dec 14 02:32:51 <mircea_popescu>	well... so ?
Dec 14 02:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, "society" was in consensus earth is the center of the universe. lalala, big deal.
Dec 14 02:33:18 <mircea_popescu>	society is here mostly to amuse.
Dec 14 02:33:53 <Namjies>	But similarly, if consensus is required, how could someone have rights over life and death of another individual, even if only a child?
Dec 14 02:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i don't propose that. i am just pointing out the inconsistency involved.
Dec 14 02:34:14 <midnightmagic>	Reality is not governed immediately by rational thinking, neither society. Thus, consensus by mass hallucination is what society arises from; more's the pity when the masses have already accepted a certain lesser reality as truth prior to it becoming enshrined in law.
Dec 14 02:34:35 *	midnightmagic shakes his fists at all the people who think the police have a right to show up at his door and demand to see what's going on in his garage.
Dec 14 02:34:56 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic well if female children are screaming bloody murder...
Dec 14 02:35:04 <midnightmagic>	:P
Dec 14 02:35:11 <midnightmagic>	Lots of heat, lots of power consumed in there..
Dec 14 02:35:28 <midnightmagic>	with giant open-air vents to the outside, and lots of noise at the neighbour's place.
Dec 14 02:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061568 = 2.6604 BTC [+]
Dec 14 02:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7461 @ 0.000616 = 4.596 BTC [+]
Dec 14 02:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2128 @ 0.00061647 = 1.3118 BTC [+]
Dec 14 02:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	why not just get a spot on an industrial zone like sane people
Dec 14 02:36:00 <Namjies>	Ah. Here, I am simply considering the benefits of protecting individuals on which harm is done. (and not helping someone is not harming him)
Dec 14 02:36:14 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies not helping someone is not harming him.
Dec 14 02:36:30 <Namjies>	That's exactly what I said.
Dec 14 02:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	and i agree.
Dec 14 02:36:40 <midnightmagic>	I'm pretty sure we have achieved a matched set of priors. :)
Dec 14 02:36:46 <Namjies>	And for those requesting help, consider case by case wether to or not.
Dec 14 02:36:48 <midnightmagic>	(narrowly)
Dec 14 02:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	but in principle, the problem with society is this : no 100% solution will ever exist. so, in general, we need to understand and accept that some kids will get raped, some people will get shot etc. trying to make a system where these are impossible results in an unworkable system
Dec 14 02:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	they just need to be unproductive.
Dec 14 02:37:38 <Namjies>	It is often beneficial to help kins if they don't live from your help.
Dec 14 02:37:42 <midnightmagic>	Harm minimization works wonders..
Dec 14 02:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	i agree.
Dec 14 02:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	and i help people all the time. the catch is that i never help people in systematic ways.
Dec 14 02:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	taxes are bs, nickle to panhandler is bs, tithe in church is bs, these are failure modes.
Dec 14 02:38:51 <Namjies>	Ah, but perfection is never achievable. Should we not strive for it as much as possible regardless?
Dec 14 02:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	you gotta double your dime with at least a dime's worth of your intelligence.
Dec 14 02:39:01 <midnightmagic>	I try to help people..
Dec 14 02:39:12 <midnightmagic>	I have to find a better way to do it.
Dec 14 02:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic here's an anecdote for you :
Dec 14 02:39:18 <Namjies>	But yes, people should not be systematically helped, on that I agree.
Dec 14 02:39:48 <mircea_popescu>	there's very nice farmer markets here. i bought 56 lei worth of smoked cheeses and other nice stuff. there was a beggar there, when he saw my cashroll he got all excited.
Dec 14 02:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	so i gave the salesgirl 60 and told her to give the guy food worth of the change
Dec 14 02:40:10 <mircea_popescu>	which he didn't want! he wanted money!
Dec 14 02:40:11 <midnightmagic>	For a long time I just tried to convince them of a better way to think. That doesn't work, basically ever. The last decade or so I've been trying to refine civil human compassion.
Dec 14 02:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	so she got to keep it.
Dec 14 02:40:16 <midnightmagic>	That's not really working so well either.
Dec 14 02:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	simple game of who gets this euro ? the "needy" or the working ?
Dec 14 02:41:12 <midnightmagic>	I am not prepared nor financially capable of providing for basic human needs and wants..
Dec 14 02:41:24 <midnightmagic>	How much is 1 lei worth.. hrm..
Dec 14 02:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	like 4 to the euro.
Dec 14 02:41:43 <midnightmagic>	LOL course he didn't want huge volumes of food.
Dec 14 02:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	actually, excellent food here is incredibly cheap
Dec 14 02:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	a 1 lb chunk of homesmoked, homemade cheese is like 20
Dec 14 02:42:05 <midnightmagic>	That's..  where? Romania right?
Dec 14 02:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Dec 14 02:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	one of the main reasons im here. better food than france, about on par wine, 1/10 the prices.
Dec 14 02:42:26 <midnightmagic>	$10 for it. That's an okay price, I would pay for that.
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Dec 14 02:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol i know people who'd pay 100+
Dec 14 02:42:57 <midnightmagic>	Do you have good meats there?
Dec 14 02:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	except you can't import it in the us.
Dec 14 02:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic except beef yeah.
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Dec 14 02:43:42 <midnightmagic>	I've been trying out some nice smoked meats..  shinckenspeck..  what prosciutto wishes it were.
Dec 14 02:43:46 <midnightmagic>	so delicious.
Dec 14 02:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	hehehe
Dec 14 02:44:23 <midnightmagic>	I smoked my own heritage bacon a while back. Did I tell you about that?
Dec 14 02:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Dec 14 02:44:37 <midnightmagic>	Almost burned my house down.
Dec 14 02:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 14 02:44:54 <mircea_popescu>	then he wonders why police tries to keep an eye on him
Dec 14 02:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	midnightpublicmenace
Dec 14 02:45:07 <midnightmagic>	If my Dad hadn't the foresight to insist I keep my BBQ as far away from the house, I would be homeless right now.
Dec 14 02:45:21 <midnightmagic>	Well. "Homeless."
Dec 14 02:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3572 @ 0.00061647 = 2.202 BTC [+]
Dec 14 02:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6328 @ 0.00061675 = 3.9028 BTC [+]
Dec 14 02:45:58 <mircea_popescu>	and actually ima go have some.
Dec 14 02:46:06 <midnightmagic>	I ruined the first two sets of pork bellies, and the farmer was so pissed off at me for ruining the mean (even though I'd paid for the damn stuff) she made me butcher the last one myself.
Dec 14 02:46:12 <Namjies>	Hmm, so we don't really disagree. But at first what you say always seem to point to that your beliefs revolves around an "all for myself" basis where no help/cooperation of any sort is acceptable (and similar with anything else, always seem like an extreme "never".) When in fact you either don't agree with how it's done or how it should be applied or when it's acceptable.
Dec 14 02:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	if everyone's done dumping the k's of btc on mpex for five minutes
Dec 14 02:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies sounds aboutright
Dec 14 02:46:37 <Namjies>	I often end up wondering, why are we arguing on the topic?
Dec 14 02:47:05 <midnightmagic>	Namjies: To reveal and align your priors! :-D
Dec 14 02:47:16 <Namjies>	Ahah...
Dec 14 02:47:34 <midnightmagic>	And then let Aumann's agreement theorem take over! :-)
Dec 14 02:50:27 <Namjies>	I always wonder if you willingly make your initial statements seem like an extremist "never" to promote discussion or simply for the sake of keeping it short.
Dec 14 02:51:44 <midnightmagic>	Oh you mean you and MP specifically.
Dec 14 02:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	ahh
Dec 14 02:58:39 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies for the sake of keeping it short
Dec 14 02:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	and also for the sake of keeping them rare. idiots tend to self-select as they can't cope with it.
Dec 14 02:59:20 <Namjies>	I would have though so.
Dec 14 03:00:55 <Namjies>	So... to start another discussion... why was it that you placed such high registration fees on MPEx?
Dec 14 03:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	because there's no practical way to check people's disposable income.
Dec 14 03:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	that measure they have irl of qualified investors is pretty smart.
Dec 14 03:02:26 <Namjies>	And you wanted to keep low cash investors out like the ones on GLBSE.
Dec 14 03:02:53 <Namjies>	The ones which might have a few shares paid with faucet like websites.
Dec 14 03:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	i want to keep people unable to meaningfully contribute in the market out of it.
Dec 14 03:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	meaningfully contribute means of course help with price formation.
Dec 14 03:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	this has been stated in the inverse, as "keeping drama out"
Dec 14 03:04:10 <mircea_popescu>	basically it's the same thing
Dec 14 03:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060689 = 2.6224 BTC [-]
Dec 14 03:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21379 @ 0.00060668 = 12.9702 BTC [-]
Dec 14 03:05:31 <Namjies>	Ah. But isn't keeping the drama out basically coming out to avoiding certain kind of issued shares like the ones that were allowed on GLBSE? Not the size of investments?
Dec 14 03:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think the two are a different thing.
Dec 14 03:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00061169 = 0.5505 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3421 @ 0.00061169 = 2.0926 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4439 @ 0.00061174 = 2.7155 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:06:59 <mircea_popescu>	at the macro level (which is what i do for mpex) you are well advised to use macro tools. a barrier to entry for instance.
Dec 14 03:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	targeted intervention is usually a bad idea.
Dec 14 03:07:36 <Namjies>	The way I see it, if they're not good investors, there's not really any incentive to protect them from entering the market. Any purchasing power small or large pressures prices up or down.
Dec 14 03:07:45 <Namjies>	I suppose this is what coinbr is for tho.
Dec 14 03:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	for instance, so you understand better that i mean : in the discussion for psychoticboy's asset relisting, mpex got 1 vote, out of like 30.
Dec 14 03:08:12 <Namjies>	Same as small investors go through a brokerage firm to get a few shares.
Dec 14 03:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	mpex would never list some asset making 3 btc a month, let alone something as dubious as those were. but it doesn't have to not list it :
Dec 14 03:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	the people don't want it listed anyway.
Dec 14 03:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	so it works splendidly.
Dec 14 03:09:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5161 @ 0.00061174 = 3.1572 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:11:04 <Namjies>	Well I see the point of not managing low income assets. Not worth the support. However for traders, there's always trading fees. But to avoid providing tech support to them, keep them out with a large fee. Enters coinbr which acts like a brokerage firm. And requires a monthly fee for having an account and higher trading fees.
Dec 14 03:11:14 <Namjies>	I suppose considering this, it makes a lot of sense.
Dec 14 03:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	there's nothing wrong with having brokers serving any market niche. irl there's ameritrade and optionsexpress and etc doing online accounts
Dec 14 03:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	but it has to be brokers serving these markets.
Dec 14 03:12:31 <Namjies>	Yes.
Dec 14 03:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	in other words, my core mission still is to equip btc with the weaponry it needs to win the war with fiat. this hasn't and won't change.
Dec 14 03:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	so just going about that.
Dec 14 03:14:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061432 = 2.6545 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7193 @ 0.00061422 = 4.4181 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 03:15:01 <Namjies>	I often forget you want to manage MPEx as a stock exchange and that the fee I paid is actually to get a "seat" of sort.
Dec 14 03:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Dec 14 03:16:15 <mircea_popescu>	if i call it a stock exchange i actually mean the words.
Dec 14 03:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	i guess that's rare, but still.
Dec 14 03:16:43 <Namjies>	It's a small fee although the total capitalization on MPEx is also low. If it keeps going to become one of the major stock exchange for Bitcoins, that "seat" would be quite a good value however.
Dec 14 03:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	it's "small" only in terms of btc fiat value atm.
Dec 14 03:18:07 <Namjies>	Indeed.
Dec 14 03:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise its a 30 units fee on a 20mn total monetary mass.
Dec 14 03:18:13 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be a 7mn fee in fiat.
Dec 14 03:18:19 <Namjies>	Eheh
Dec 14 03:18:42 <mircea_popescu>	so, as btc goes up (and in no small part because of mpex) the fee scales. is perfect-ish
Dec 14 03:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061663 = 2.6645 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22963 @ 0.00061675 = 14.1624 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:23:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.EWTI] 500 @ 0.0614575 = 30.7288 BTC [-]
Dec 14 03:23:35 <Namjies>	I still disapprove of MPEx not having it's own domain however. Especially because of the dtng board kept on same domain. Although I don't mind it, I know many people with large capital and qualified to participate will be repulsed by that fact. If you recall stating some were more sensitive on the topic in other cultures, like in America, or something to that effect.
Dec 14 03:23:43 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. total cap on mpex (stocks only) is just about to breach 1mn btc.
Dec 14 03:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	that's not low by any standards
Dec 14 03:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2609 @ 0.00061675 = 1.6091 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00061755 = 6.2373 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:23:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2580 @ 0.00061834 = 1.5953 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:24:05 <mircea_popescu>	in fact this is the first online thing of that level. never before was a stock exchange ever had this
Dec 14 03:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i actually was planning to both sell dtng and move mpex
Dec 14 03:25:36 <Namjies>	Hmm, I would find it interesting to see how people would react to that change.
Dec 14 03:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 14 03:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	the beauty of how it's designed tho, is that i can run it symultaneously of multiple domains
Dec 14 03:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	and servers. i don't mean mirror it, i mean actually run it.
Dec 14 03:27:30 <Namjies>	Ah. Interesting.
Dec 14 03:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	there's no difference between two diff people loading http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php in their browser and two or the same loading site1/site2 sorta thing
Dec 14 03:28:38 <Namjies>	Well multiple domain isn't hard. Multiple servers shouldn't be too much hassle either with current cloud/cluster services and virtualization capabilities.
Dec 14 03:29:05 <Namjies>	Although it does require work.
Dec 14 03:29:09 <Namjies>	Hmm.
Dec 14 03:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't use the cloud.
Dec 14 03:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	i dun trust it.
Dec 14 03:29:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00061834 = 4.7303 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:30:54 <Namjies>	Not quite developed yet. Plus there's data safety concerns using a public cloud. Private cloud would be useful if you need to provide cloud like services for elastic subprojects. Otherwise, for your needs alone for one project, a cluster.
Dec 14 03:31:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1820 @ 0.00061834 = 1.1254 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:31:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00061877 = 6.3115 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:31:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1680 @ 0.00061914 = 1.0402 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:32:54 <Namjies>	I also want to see what bitcointalk's trolls would then find to it. Other than that you're romanian. Complaining based on nationality...
Dec 14 03:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Dec 14 03:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	it was a fine exercise so far, wasn't it.
Dec 14 03:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im off to town for a little. catch you later a bit.
Dec 14 03:33:24 <Namjies>	That the fee is too damn high would probably be the only remaining complaint.
Dec 14 03:33:32 <Namjies>	Well goodbye then.
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Dec 14 03:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9420 @ 0.00061914 = 5.8323 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:42:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6730 @ 0.00061916 = 4.1669 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 03:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 808 @ 0.00061916 = 0.5003 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:50:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4992 @ 0.00061923 = 3.0912 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 03:52:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 721 @ 0.00061549 = 0.4438 BTC [-]
Dec 14 03:52:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15829 @ 0.00061514 = 9.7371 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 03:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6208 @ 0.00061923 = 3.8442 BTC [+]
Dec 14 03:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5871 @ 0.00061952 = 3.6372 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 04:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7013 @ 0.00061952 = 4.3447 BTC [+]
Dec 14 04:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.0006198 = 2.1073 BTC [+]
Dec 14 04:02:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10376 @ 0.00062079 = 6.4413 BTC [+]
Dec 14 04:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061536 = 2.659 BTC [-]
Dec 14 04:03:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5371 @ 0.00061514 = 3.3039 BTC [-]
Dec 14 04:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17230 @ 0.00061422 = 10.583 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 04:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 416 @ 0.00061422 = 0.2555 BTC [-]
Dec 14 04:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00061321 = 1.1344 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 04:22:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062075 = 2.6823 BTC [+]
Dec 14 04:22:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2274 @ 0.00062079 = 1.4117 BTC [+]
Dec 14 04:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8392 @ 0.00062132 = 5.2141 BTC [+]
Dec 14 04:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 762 @ 0.00062188 = 0.4739 BTC [+]
Dec 14 04:33:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5188 @ 0.00062188 = 3.2263 BTC [+]
Dec 14 04:33:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00062197 = 1.4616 BTC [+]
Dec 14 04:33:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2612 @ 0.00062222 = 1.6252 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 04:45:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00062222 = 4.1689 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 04:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00062197 = 14.1498 BTC [-]
Dec 14 04:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00061875 = 1.2375 BTC [-]
Dec 14 04:52:32 <Diablo-D3>	I need to quit sleeping so much
Dec 14 04:52:41 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 14 04:52:44 <Ukto>	u were asleep again?
Dec 14 04:53:05 <Ukto>	you should look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.0 ... :P
Dec 14 04:53:31 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: meh, I dunno
Dec 14 04:53:39 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 14 04:53:47 <Diablo-D3>	I just didnt feel like being awake again
Dec 14 04:54:00 <Ukto>	i know that feeling
Dec 14 04:54:25 <Ukto>	wokring from home, and keeping my own schedual.. sometimes you just want another day to pass by before getting back up
Dec 14 04:54:54 <Ukto>	schedule*
Dec 14 04:56:36 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: btw, re: that bitfunder thread
Dec 14 04:56:40 <Diablo-D3>	shouldnt that be 4 slots?
Dec 14 04:56:48 <Diablo-D3>	dmc already took the first one I thought
Dec 14 04:56:52 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 14 04:57:17 <Ukto>	Put it in the thread and I'll mark it down. ;)
Dec 14 04:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00061875 = 1.7944 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15831 @ 0.00061875 = 9.7954 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00061872 = 5.3829 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:01:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10849 @ 0.00060876 = 6.6044 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:07:10 <Ukto>	wow, gald you put alot of details for ppl :P
Dec 14 05:07:17 <Ukto>	you make a great example. :P
Dec 14 05:07:22 <Ukto>	I guess I will fill it in for you
Dec 14 05:08:20 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: I approach forums the way I approach perl
Dec 14 05:08:50 <Ukto>	"My understanding is the plan for DMC to continue trading and paying out dividends and plan to try to buy back the shares over time. Right?"
Dec 14 05:09:05 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: As little interaction as possible?
Dec 14 05:09:06 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 14 05:09:11 <Diablo-D3>	bingo
Dec 14 05:09:16 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: and no, no paying of dividends
Dec 14 05:09:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9222 @ 0.00060876 = 5.614 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:09:35 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 14 05:10:05 <Ukto>	Will the shares be worth anyone else really buying then?
Dec 14 05:10:20 <Diablo-D3>	depends entirely how much they pay for them
Dec 14 05:10:32 <Ukto>	I guess thats true...
Dec 14 05:11:47 <Diablo-D3>	if you take the first half of shares I bought back as an aggregate, people made back more than they originally invested already
Dec 14 05:12:27 <Ukto>	ah
Dec 14 05:14:05 <Diablo-D3>	not all shares were sold for 1BTC, even though that was originally the plan and trolls keep bringing that up
Dec 14 05:14:19 <Diablo-D3>	DMC raised closer to 2k, not 20k
Dec 14 05:14:33 <Ukto>	sucks :/
Dec 14 05:14:49 <Diablo-D3>	well, the market was shitting itself and I was trying to get a much larger stake of it
Dec 14 05:14:54 <Diablo-D3>	in the end nobody won
Dec 14 05:15:10 <Ukto>	you should pass my troll tag idea to theymos... Let ppl donate btc towards people getting TROLL tagged... if it hits 10btc they get tagged... :P
Dec 14 05:15:26 <Diablo-D3>	10? try 50.
Dec 14 05:15:30 <Ukto>	no
Dec 14 05:15:35 <Ukto>	50 gets you Super Troll
Dec 14 05:15:41 <Ukto>	100 is Epic Troll
Dec 14 05:15:48 <Diablo-D3>	fuck, I'd be epic troll by the end of the week
Dec 14 05:15:55 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 14 05:16:01 <Ukto>	see? would make theymos happy
Dec 14 05:16:02 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 14 05:16:15 <Diablo-D3>	but I'm a forum mod :<
Dec 14 05:17:03 <Ukto>	told psycho he needs to set his title to 'Staff Troll'
Dec 14 05:17:03 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 14 05:17:18 <Ukto>	or Troll Moderator
Dec 14 05:17:27 <Ukto>	could mean either way
Dec 14 05:17:27 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 14 05:17:56 <Ukto>	for the discussion boards I am putting on BF... I am requirng ppl to have a linked weex account to post. :P
Dec 14 05:18:10 <Ukto>	(most will need that anyways)
Dec 14 05:23:07 <Ukto>	oh
Dec 14 05:23:16 *	Ukto is scanning the thread...
Dec 14 05:23:24 <Ukto>	did you already tell the shareholders there would be no divvies paid out?
Dec 14 05:23:40 <Ukto>	can already imagine ppl throwing a fit if not
Dec 14 05:24:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00060876 = 0.5655 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:24:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7703 @ 0.00060668 = 4.6733 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:26:46 <Ukto>	thats how it was for the first half of the buyback right?
Dec 14 05:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4863 @ 0.00060913 = 2.9622 BTC [+]
Dec 14 05:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14554 @ 0.00061902 = 9.0092 BTC [+]
Dec 14 05:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1183 @ 0.00062222 = 0.7361 BTC [+]
Dec 14 05:30:58 <Ukto>	ahh, guess the buyback started the day before/of the shutdown, or therebouts
Dec 14 05:31:08 <Ukto>	*Reading thread*.. dont see anything about no divs.. :/
Dec 14 05:31:22 <Ukto>	still reading tho
Dec 14 05:33:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13205 @ 0.00062222 = 8.2164 BTC [+]
Dec 14 05:33:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9822 @ 0.00062241 = 6.1133 BTC [+]
Dec 14 05:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3073 @ 0.00062256 = 1.9131 BTC [+]
Dec 14 05:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.00060668 = 2.7173 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 05:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12796 @ 0.00060668 = 7.7631 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:42:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22404 @ 0.00060667 = 13.5918 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4196 @ 0.00060667 = 2.5456 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00060488 = 11.16 BTC [-]
Dec 14 05:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18204 @ 0.00060371 = 10.9899 BTC [-]
Dec 14 06:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00060966 = 9.2059 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 06:06:40 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130795.0
Dec 14 06:06:42 <Diablo-D3>	bam
Dec 14 06:06:52 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: yes, they're already aware of no dividends
Dec 14 06:07:46 <Diablo-D3>	there was a shareholder vote on it to do it for a limited time, then nefario locked my glbse account and tried to use his attempted removal of me as ceo as a cover for his bullshit
Dec 14 06:08:24 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: theres no dividends to pay anyhow
Dec 14 06:08:43 <Diablo-D3>	dividends were generated from the mining assets we had while I was trying to save up the money to kick off the rest of the plan
Dec 14 06:09:21 <Diablo-D3>	ever since glbse went down, no one has been able to pay dividends
Dec 14 06:09:26 <Diablo-D3>	thus, theres no dividends to pay
Dec 14 06:15:40 <Ukto>	ah
Dec 14 06:16:51 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1399421#msg1399421
Dec 14 06:16:53 <Ukto>	0,0
Dec 14 06:18:22 <Diablo-D3>	er, what am I reading?
Dec 14 06:20:39 <Ukto>	oh, er
Dec 14 06:20:52 <Ukto>	was just my comments on somoene moaning over BF's tos
Dec 14 06:21:10 <Ukto>	which is the only one that hhas a promise to the users, instead of nothing at all
Dec 14 06:21:51 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Dec 14 06:22:15 <Ukto>	its like star wars.. lets vote for to turn the republic into an empire! yay!
Dec 14 06:22:16 <Ukto>	...
Dec 14 06:22:24 <Ukto>	it sounds prettier!
Dec 14 06:22:24 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 14 06:24:20 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow
Dec 14 06:24:31 <Diablo-D3>	I think luke'll shut up now
Dec 14 06:26:30 <Diablo-D3>	fucking retard
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Dec 14 06:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00060969 = 2.6217 BTC [+]
Dec 14 06:29:32 <Graet>	gl with that Diablo-D3 :)
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Dec 14 06:31:45 <Diablo-D3>	I think I need food
Dec 14 06:32:13 <Diablo-D3>	all this countertrolling (ie, countering of trolls) has made me hungry
Dec 14 06:32:57 <Ukto>	amended: "Also, I noticed that you have never posted in the GSDPT thread before, other than to +1 btct. It just made me curious if you happen to own any shares of GSDPT?"
Dec 14 06:33:00 <Ukto>	-_-
Dec 14 06:33:13 <Ukto>	i think thats what I just did. countertrolled
Dec 14 06:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00060966 = 1.3717 BTC [-]
Dec 14 06:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10696 @ 0.00060578 = 6.4794 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 06:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5918 @ 0.00060578 = 3.585 BTC [-]
Dec 14 06:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 696 @ 0.00060371 = 0.4202 BTC [-]
Dec 14 06:38:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8931 @ 0.0006027 = 5.3827 BTC [-]
Dec 14 06:38:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1655 @ 0.00060257 = 0.9973 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 06:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3428 @ 0.00060969 = 2.09 BTC [+]
Dec 14 06:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00061451 = 5.5306 BTC [+]
Dec 14 06:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9772 @ 0.00061639 = 6.0234 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 07:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3172 @ 0.00060734 = 1.9265 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 07:04:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00060729 = 8.745 BTC [-]
Dec 14 07:04:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.0006066 = 1.3649 BTC [-]
Dec 14 07:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39756 @ 0.00060734 = 24.1454 BTC [+]
Dec 14 07:05:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9742 @ 0.0006179 = 6.0196 BTC [+]
Dec 14 07:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14027 @ 0.00062256 = 8.7326 BTC [+]
Dec 14 07:06:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7075 @ 0.00062258 = 4.4048 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 07:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14035 @ 0.00062098 = 8.7155 BTC [-]
Dec 14 07:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3365 @ 0.00062258 = 2.095 BTC [+]
Dec 14 07:19:12 <Ukto>	fwiw: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1399481#msg1399481
Dec 14 07:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00061506 = 13.5313 BTC [-]
Dec 14 07:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10363 @ 0.0006066 = 6.2862 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 07:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2717 @ 0.00060944 = 1.6558 BTC [+]
Dec 14 07:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5283 @ 0.00062258 = 3.2891 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 07:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16829 @ 0.00062258 = 10.4774 BTC [+]
Dec 14 07:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3071 @ 0.00062272 = 1.9124 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 07:49:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.0032948 = 6.9191 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 07:51:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1034 @ 0.0032948 = 3.4068 BTC [-]
Dec 14 07:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1575 @ 0.00328789 = 5.1784 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 08:00:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.0006164 = 1.1712 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 08:06:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.0006164 = 11.0952 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17096 @ 0.00061562 = 10.5246 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3725 @ 0.00061398 = 2.2871 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 08:13:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3650 @ 0.00330342 = 12.0575 BTC [+]
Dec 14 08:13:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0033178 = 1.9907 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 08:20:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00061488 = 3.5048 BTC [+]
Dec 14 08:20:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2169 @ 0.00061398 = 1.3317 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30050 @ 0.00060912 = 18.3041 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:41:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00060912 = 0.2436 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:41:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1987 @ 0.0006066 = 1.2053 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7313 @ 0.00060564 = 4.429 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13187 @ 0.00060564 = 7.9866 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5213 @ 0.00060502 = 3.154 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9609 @ 0.00060502 = 5.8136 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2799 @ 0.00060257 = 1.6866 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:50:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3692 @ 0.00060213 = 2.2231 BTC [-]
Dec 14 08:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00060499 = 8.6211 BTC [+]
Dec 14 09:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6233 @ 0.00060499 = 3.7709 BTC [+]
Dec 14 09:01:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4667 @ 0.00060286 = 2.8135 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 09:09:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1083 @ 0.00060286 = 0.6529 BTC [-]
Dec 14 09:09:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00060262 = 1.6271 BTC [-]
Dec 14 09:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12408 @ 0.00060213 = 7.4712 BTC [-]
Dec 14 09:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4059 @ 0.00060154 = 2.4417 BTC [-]
Dec 14 09:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23591 @ 0.00060154 = 14.1909 BTC [-]
Dec 14 09:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1909 @ 0.00060111 = 1.1475 BTC [-]
Dec 14 09:16:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17516 @ 0.00060985 = 10.6821 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 09:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8034 @ 0.00060985 = 4.8995 BTC [+]
Dec 14 09:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3210 @ 0.00061054 = 1.9598 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 09:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4190 @ 0.00061054 = 2.5582 BTC [+]
Dec 14 09:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2210 @ 0.00061063 = 1.3495 BTC [+]
Dec 14 09:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00060922 = 13.6465 BTC [-]
Dec 14 09:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6632 @ 0.0006083 = 4.0342 BTC [-]
Dec 14 09:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20129 @ 0.00061063 = 12.2914 BTC [+]
Dec 14 09:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6422 @ 0.00061262 = 3.9342 BTC [+]
Dec 14 09:47:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 291 @ 0.00061602 = 0.1793 BTC [+]
Dec 14 09:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12068 @ 0.0006083 = 7.341 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 10:05:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4532 @ 0.0006048 = 2.741 BTC [-]
Dec 14 10:05:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00060639 = 10.248 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9909 @ 0.00061602 = 6.1041 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.0006164 = 2.8046 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9329 @ 0.00062272 = 5.8094 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13095 @ 0.0006233 = 8.1621 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:30:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5705 @ 0.0006233 = 3.5559 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:30:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00062351 = 14.3407 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18495 @ 0.00062357 = 11.5329 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 10:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6255 @ 0.00062357 = 3.9004 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17745 @ 0.00062422 = 11.0768 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22064 @ 0.00062215 = 13.7271 BTC [-]
Dec 14 10:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 136 @ 0.00062215 = 0.0846 BTC [-]
Dec 14 10:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3164 @ 0.00061602 = 1.9491 BTC [-]
Dec 14 10:44:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00062422 = 2.4032 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5705 @ 0.00062422 = 3.5612 BTC [+]
Dec 14 10:57:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1745 @ 0.00062706 = 1.0942 BTC [+]
Dec 14 11:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9878 @ 0.00061602 = 6.085 BTC [-]
Dec 14 11:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4525 @ 0.00061368 = 2.7769 BTC [-]
Dec 14 11:10:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10293 @ 0.00061015 = 6.2803 BTC [-]
Dec 14 11:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15884 @ 0.00062706 = 9.9602 BTC [+]
Dec 14 11:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22075 @ 0.00060319 = 13.3154 BTC [-]
Dec 14 11:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00060316 = 6.5744 BTC [-]
Dec 14 11:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9319 @ 0.00060111 = 5.6017 BTC [-]
Dec 14 11:16:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4396 @ 0.00060093 = 2.6417 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 11:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 558 @ 0.0033178 = 1.8513 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 11:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00061934 = 5.3263 BTC [+]
Dec 14 11:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00061967 = 5.2672 BTC [+]
Dec 14 11:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062706 = 2.0693 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 12:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00061154 = 8.4393 BTC [-]
Dec 14 12:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00060802 = 9.5459 BTC [-]
Dec 14 12:04:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00060556 = 12.1718 BTC [-]
Dec 14 12:04:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13129 @ 0.00060489 = 7.9416 BTC [-]
Dec 14 12:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.0034 = 5.44 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 12:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00060635 = 5.0933 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 12:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00061634 = 6.1634 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 12:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00061634 = 3.0817 BTC [+]
Dec 14 12:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00060635 = 1.6978 BTC [-]
Dec 14 12:46:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6621 @ 0.00060489 = 4.005 BTC [-]
Dec 14 12:46:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11311 @ 0.00060459 = 6.8385 BTC [-]
Dec 14 12:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1345 @ 0.00060318 = 0.8113 BTC [-]
Dec 14 12:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	sooo what's up today
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Dec 14 12:52:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00060318 = 6.7858 BTC [-]
Dec 14 12:52:54 <gigavps>	i'm starting to think the scam accusations section of the forums is getting over used
Dec 14 12:53:15 <gigavps>	but what do i know..
Dec 14 12:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	who now ?
Dec 14 12:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	i recall piuk getting hit for $6.
Dec 14 12:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9622 @ 0.00060318 = 5.8038 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 12:58:46 <PsychoticBoy>	I think you are right gigavps
Dec 14 12:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00061767 = 9.3577 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 13:07:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00062226 = 7.2182 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 13:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00062226 = 0.9956 BTC [+]
Dec 14 13:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00061724 = 9.9067 BTC [-]
Dec 14 13:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4383 @ 0.00060318 = 2.6437 BTC [-]
Dec 14 13:17:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4340 @ 0.00060225 = 2.6138 BTC [-]
Dec 14 13:18:57 <midnightmagic>	yeah, right.
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Dec 14 13:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00060225 = 9.8468 BTC [-]
Dec 14 13:25:09 <mircea_popescu>	the bfl thing is beyond incredible.
Dec 14 13:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	i have never heard of such a thing.
Dec 14 13:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	in other news : SD Profit before fees: 30628.62760334 BTC (2.055%)
Dec 14 13:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	holy shit they're going to post +14k at this rate.
Dec 14 13:26:54 <jcpham>	http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213
Dec 14 13:27:11 <jcpham>	link me to this new bfl drama
Dec 14 13:27:18 <jcpham>	don't make me read up in the buffer
Dec 14 13:27:34 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham 1 second
Dec 14 13:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	let the girl post first.
Dec 14 13:29:11 <jcpham>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89902.0
Dec 14 13:29:13 <jcpham>	that one?
Dec 14 13:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Dec 14 13:32:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00061881 = 3.2178 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 13:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10210 @ 0.00060225 = 6.149 BTC [-]
Dec 14 13:34:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4054 @ 0.00060093 = 2.4362 BTC [-]
Dec 14 13:34:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2636 @ 0.00060054 = 1.583 BTC [-]
Dec 14 13:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129566.msg1400034#msg1400034
Dec 14 13:37:33 <jcpham>	i tried to read it but I was staring at her avatar the whole time
Dec 14 13:38:18 *	Pasha is now known as Cory
Dec 14 13:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3351 @ 0.00060054 = 2.0124 BTC [-]
Dec 14 13:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	good plan.
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Dec 14 13:47:31 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: see comment
Dec 14 13:48:36 <smickles>	and I typo'd "If" into "I" :(
Dec 14 13:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10414 @ 0.00060775 = 6.3291 BTC [+]
Dec 14 13:52:54 <smickles>	Ya know, If I really had confidence in that formula, I would sell a crapload of futures based on the projected costs of a farm and equipment and use the btc to buy a farm and equipment
Dec 14 13:53:28 <smickles>	to quote the owl, "let's find out"
Dec 14 13:53:38 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: heh
Dec 14 13:53:46 <smickles>	using a single BFL product as an example
Dec 14 13:53:51 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: well
Dec 14 13:53:55 <Diablo-D3>	if I wanted to be a fucking dick
Dec 14 13:54:11 <Diablo-D3>	I'd sell futures and then take the money and buy lots of mining hardware
Dec 14 13:54:11 <smickles>	oh?
Dec 14 13:54:21 <Diablo-D3>	and then no matter what happens, I end up with lots of cash
Dec 14 13:54:27 <smickles>	how's that being a dick?
Dec 14 13:54:47 <smickles>	if you sell at the right price, that is a good move
Dec 14 13:54:57 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno
Dec 14 13:55:10 <Diablo-D3>	Im trying to figure out how to turn other peoples money into my money without betting
Dec 14 13:55:25 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: i'm talking about this formula: I believe that any sufficiently large miner can make relatively safe profits by selling these contracts in an amount derived by the following formula:
Dec 14 13:55:29 <smickles>	([easiest difficulty shares per minute] * ([current block reward] / [current difficulty])) * [minutes until settlement] * 2
Dec 14 13:55:32 <smickles>	They should sell at a price per contract greater than the projected expenses for the time period divided by the number of contracts.
Dec 14 13:55:35 <smickles>	The amount received in excess of projected expenses should be risk free profit. Which, btw, is received in advance of the work being done. Which enables the miner to buy more equipment and repeat the process.
Dec 14 13:55:49 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: _huh_
Dec 14 13:55:55 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: so do me a favor
Dec 14 13:55:59 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: that formula might work for you, if you know shares per minute and projected costs
Dec 14 13:56:00 <Diablo-D3>	plug the current numbers into that
Dec 14 13:56:03 <smickles>	I have
Dec 14 13:56:09 <Diablo-D3>	whats the number
Dec 14 13:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1286 @ 0.00060775 = 0.7816 BTC [+]
Dec 14 13:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00060716 = 0.7893 BTC [-]
Dec 14 13:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4703 @ 0.00060054 = 2.8243 BTC [-]
Dec 14 13:56:28 <smickles>	well, what's a good number for cost per Gh?
Dec 14 13:56:37 <smickles>	(per month)
Dec 14 13:56:38 <Diablo-D3>	hrm, well
Dec 14 13:56:44 <Diablo-D3>	per month? what, electricity or what?
Dec 14 13:56:57 <smickles>	electricity and proportional equipment cost
Dec 14 13:57:09 <Diablo-D3>	okay, so we're working with a 2 year pay off number or what?
Dec 14 13:57:25 <smickles>	based on a 5970 and the internet i came up with .3 btc per Gh per month
Dec 14 13:57:38 <smickles>	how does that sound?
Dec 14 13:57:55 <Diablo-D3>	on 5xxx or 69xx or 7xxx thats roughly, eh
Dec 14 13:58:02 <smickles>	a 2yr payoff is ideas, as that would equate to tax depreciation
Dec 14 13:58:06 <smickles>	*ideal
Dec 14 13:58:14 <Diablo-D3>	like, my 7970 does 675 mhash overclocked
Dec 14 13:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	thanks smickles
Dec 14 13:59:18 <Diablo-D3>	[01:59:09] <gribble> The expected generation output, at 675.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3370181.79928, is 0.100726636919 BTC per day and 0.00419694320496 BTC per hour.
Dec 14 13:59:59 <smickles>	anyway, if my estimate is near enough to correct, the formula says that a miner with 30Gh/s and .3btc/Gh/month costs would break even selling 54 contracts at 0.03322320 btc each
Dec 14 14:00:24 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: lets say $380 for the 7970, btw
Dec 14 14:00:31 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: so they should probably sell at .034 or .035ish
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Dec 14 14:01:11 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: let me help you get into the proper mindset, it's not 380 USD it's 27.5 btc
Dec 14 14:01:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11110 @ 0.00060054 = 6.672 BTC [-]
Dec 14 14:01:29 *	smickles *zing*
Dec 14 14:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5452 @ 0.00060027 = 3.2727 BTC [-]
Dec 14 14:01:47 <Diablo-D3>	so 4.444~ btc per 30 day month per 1gh, $562.96 per 1gh
Dec 14 14:01:52 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Dec 14 14:01:53 <assbot>	Provide ticker.
Dec 14 14:01:57 <Diablo-D3>	er
Dec 14 14:01:58 <Diablo-D3>	;ticker
Dec 14 14:02:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 14 14:02:12 <Diablo-D3>	fucking gribble
Dec 14 14:02:27 <Diablo-D3>	[02:02:17] <gribble> BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.50006, Best ask: 13.60400, Bid-ask spread: 0.10394, Last trade: 13.50005, 24 hour volume: 51438.51375095, 24 hour low: 13.31012, 24 hour high: 13.90119, 24 hour vwap: 13.69112
Dec 14 14:02:30 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: 27.5 btc is your cost per Gh per month?
Dec 14 14:02:53 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: no, to buy
Dec 14 14:03:20 <Diablo-D3>	4.444~ btc generated per 30 day month per 1gh, 41.7 btc per 1gh to buy
Dec 14 14:03:26 <Diablo-D3>	and electricity is eh
Dec 14 14:03:45 <smickles>	that's about 1.14/month equipment costs
Dec 14 14:04:07 <Diablo-D3>	gotta figure out the power usage
Dec 14 14:04:20 <Diablo-D3>	and btw, that doesnt include the cost of the rigs
Dec 14 14:04:26 <Diablo-D3>	so theres going to be a cost per 7 of those
Dec 14 14:04:36 <Diablo-D3>	plus an additional 50 watts
Dec 14 14:05:05 <Diablo-D3>	so lets say 300 watts per overclocked 7970
Dec 14 14:05:27 <Diablo-D3>	or 444.444~ watts per 1gh
Dec 14 14:06:05 <Diablo-D3>	or 0.0533328 cents per 1gh per hour
Dec 14 14:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	you want btc/month
Dec 14 14:06:26 <Diablo-D3>	or $38.3999616 per 30 day month
Dec 14 14:06:45 <Diablo-D3>	or 2.84 btc per month per 1gh
Dec 14 14:07:18 <smickles>	crap mircea_popescu I forgot to specify that I was talkign about the idiff.dec
Dec 14 14:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol so add
Dec 14 14:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00060871 = 8.8263 BTC [+]
Dec 14 14:07:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00061129 = 1.9867 BTC [+]
Dec 14 14:07:57 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: so....
Dec 14 14:08:14 <smickles>	one sec D
Dec 14 14:08:15 <Diablo-D3>	41.7 / 24 = 1.74, then 2.84 per month in power usage
Dec 14 14:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	seems my 1btc/gh/month was under smickles. not .3 but 3.
Dec 14 14:08:35 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 does it even make it back, the 2.84 ?
Dec 14 14:08:44 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well
Dec 14 14:08:45 <Diablo-D3>	no.
Dec 14 14:08:55 <Diablo-D3>	1.74 + 4.58 = 4.58
Dec 14 14:09:39 <smickles>	ack, well, the high price certainly fits the volatility
Dec 14 14:09:51 <Diablo-D3>	well, remember, this is with gpus
Dec 14 14:09:58 <Diablo-D3>	and remember, the price is even worse
Dec 14 14:10:00 <smickles>	also, who's going to buy a 79XX now
Dec 14 14:10:18 <Diablo-D3>	you're looking at roughly $200 per 7 of those plus another 50 watts
Dec 14 14:10:26 <Diablo-D3>	actually, lets just say $250
Dec 14 14:10:29 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: but yeah
Dec 14 14:10:29 <Diablo-D3>	now
Dec 14 14:10:31 <Diablo-D3>	lets do asics
Dec 14 14:10:34 <Diablo-D3>	and not bfl ones
Dec 14 14:11:46 <Diablo-D3>	lets take avalon
Dec 14 14:12:03 <Diablo-D3>	66gh, 400w, $1300
Dec 14 14:12:40 <Diablo-D3>	so 1.45 btc per gh, 6.06 watt per gh
Dec 14 14:12:59 <Diablo-D3>	0.06 btc per gh per month over 2 years
Dec 14 14:13:51 <smickles>	and, is that 838 shares per minute?
Dec 14 14:13:52 <Diablo-D3>	0.039 btc per month electricity
Dec 14 14:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00061129 = 8.4052 BTC [+]
Dec 14 14:14:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5318 @ 0.0006129 = 3.2594 BTC [+]
Dec 14 14:14:22 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: hrm, what kind of shares? diff 1 shares?
Dec 14 14:14:52 <Diablo-D3>	so 0.099 btc per gh.
Dec 14 14:15:06 <smickles>	yeah, diff 1 shares
Dec 14 14:15:07 <Diablo-D3>	per month, operating costs
Dec 14 14:15:09 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: well
Dec 14 14:15:11 <Diablo-D3>	that math is constant
Dec 14 14:16:11 <Diablo-D3>	it takes 4.295 seconds to go through the entire 2**32 space
Dec 14 14:16:24 <Diablo-D3>	there is, on average, 1 diff 1 share per 2**32
Dec 14 14:17:33 <Diablo-D3>	so you pay 0.099 btc per month to get 603492 shares.
Dec 14 14:17:44 <thestringpuller>	smickle
Dec 14 14:17:52 <smickles>	so that's 257 shares per minute then?
Dec 14 14:18:02 <thestringpuller>	sir smickles the bitoin certified accountant, i have idea for you
Dec 14 14:18:05 <thestringpuller>	premise for my thing
Dec 14 14:18:17 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: erm dude, 60 / 4.295 = 14
Dec 14 14:18:32 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 60/4.295
Dec 14 14:18:32 <gribble>	13.9697322468
Dec 14 14:18:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2282 @ 0.0006129 = 1.3986 BTC [+]
Dec 14 14:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11818 @ 0.00061899 = 7.3152 BTC [+]
Dec 14 14:18:44 <smickles>	oh what did i do then?
Dec 14 14:18:50 <Diablo-D3>	I dont know.
Dec 14 14:18:54 <jcpham>	3GH/s is ~40-43 shares per minute
Dec 14 14:18:56 <smickles>	input error
Dec 14 14:18:58 <jcpham>	dunno about asic
Dec 14 14:19:05 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: no
Dec 14 14:19:08 <Diablo-D3>	it has nothing to do with hardware
Dec 14 14:19:11 <smickles>	thestringpuller: Oh?
Dec 14 14:19:14 <Diablo-D3>	you get 1 share per 2**32 hashes
Dec 14 14:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/ <<
Dec 14 14:19:27 <thestringpuller>	yessir. I see you are busy with the people from blizzard
Dec 14 14:19:46 <Diablo-D3>	2**32 / 1000000000 = seconds it takes at 1gh to deplete the range
Dec 14 14:19:47 <jcpham>	well my equipment has done 40-43 shares/minute
Dec 14 14:19:50 <jcpham>	for 18 months
Dec 14 14:19:54 <jcpham>	@ 3GH/s
Dec 14 14:20:01 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: no, Im saying, it has nothing to do with hardware
Dec 14 14:20:11 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: so it turns out my assumptions were way off
Dec 14 14:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	aha ?
Dec 14 14:20:22 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: and 14 * 3 = 42.
Dec 14 14:20:30 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: so you're right in the right range
Dec 14 14:20:33 <jcpham>	41.31 according to my stats
Dec 14 14:20:38 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: or Diablo-D3 facts are way off
Dec 14 14:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt that lol
Dec 14 14:20:47 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: I wrote a miner ;)
Dec 14 14:20:57 <Diablo-D3>	you can check my math though
Dec 14 14:21:03 <jcpham>	i understand what you are saying Diablo-D3
Dec 14 14:21:04 <smickles>	heh, (my last statement was humor ;)
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Dec 14 14:21:28 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 1300 / 66 / 13.50
Dec 14 14:21:28 <gribble>	1.45903479237
Dec 14 14:21:32 <jcpham>	I cannot wait until this asic shit materializes
Dec 14 14:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	or should i say
Dec 14 14:21:37 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 1300 / 66 / 13.50 / 24
Dec 14 14:21:37 <gribble>	0.0607931163487
Dec 14 14:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell namjies mpex.co
Dec 14 14:21:40 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 14 14:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1382 @ 0.00061899 = 0.8554 BTC [+]
Dec 14 14:21:51 <Diablo-D3>	that many btc per month for 2 years per gh
Dec 14 14:21:56 <smickles>	hey, how come cgminer tell me that i get 3 shares per minute on 200Mh/s?
Dec 14 14:22:19 <jcpham>	200 MH/s might be 3 shares/min
Dec 14 14:22:25 <jcpham>	stales
Dec 14 14:22:39 <jcpham>	depends on where you are submitting shares
Dec 14 14:22:51 <jcpham>	and whether they are all accepted or not
Dec 14 14:23:47 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: 1000mh / 200 = 5, 4.295 * 5 = 21.475 seconds
Dec 14 14:24:08 <Diablo-D3>	or roughly 2.79 shares per minute
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Dec 14 14:24:22 <Diablo-D3>	so it seems to be right
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Dec 14 14:24:30 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow, back to my math
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Dec 14 14:24:52 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 400 / 66
Dec 14 14:24:53 <gribble>	6.06060606061
Dec 14 14:25:02 <Diablo-D3>	that many watts per gh
Dec 14 14:25:15 <jcpham>	coinlab pps is still keeping me paid
Dec 14 14:25:24 <smickles>	and 60 Gh/s is only 14 shares per minute?
Dec 14 14:25:27 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 0.12 / 1000 * 6.06060606061 / 13.50 * 24 * 30
Dec 14 14:25:27 <gribble>	0.0387878787879
Dec 14 14:25:33 <jcpham>	better than diff/block reward
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Dec 14 14:25:36 <jcpham>	that's for sure
Dec 14 14:25:53 <Diablo-D3>	that many btc per month for electricity per gh
Dec 14 14:26:12 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc  0.0387878787879 + 0.0607931163487
Dec 14 14:26:12 <gribble>	0.0995809951366
Dec 14 14:26:30 <Diablo-D3>	total cost of ownership over 24 month period.
Dec 14 14:26:33 <Diablo-D3>	per month.
Dec 14 14:26:52 <smickles>	ok, Diablo-D3 tell me straight, how many diff 1 shares per minute does 66 Gh/s expect to produce?
Dec 14 14:27:18 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: well, if 1gh does 14 per minute, its 14 * 66
Dec 14 14:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3518 @ 0.00061983 = 2.1806 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 14:27:43 <jcpham>	i agree with what Diablo-D3 said. armchair math
Dec 14 14:28:13 <jcpham>	;;calc 14*66
Dec 14 14:28:14 <gribble>	924
Dec 14 14:28:40 <Diablo-D3>	[02:28:11] <gribble> The expected generation output, at 1000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3370181.79928, is 0.149224647288 BTC per day and 0.00621769363698 BTC per hour.
Dec 14 14:28:41 <jcpham>	;;calc 25/[bc,diff]
Dec 14 14:28:41 <gribble>	7.41799745205e-06
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Dec 14 14:28:58 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: and the cost per Gh per month you figured?
Dec 14 14:29:03 <jcpham>	;;calc 924*.00000741
Dec 14 14:29:03 <gribble>	0.00684684
Dec 14 14:29:09 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 0.149224647288 * 30
Dec 14 14:29:09 <gribble>	4.47673941864
Dec 14 14:29:29 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 4.47673941864 - 0.0995809951366
Dec 14 14:29:29 <gribble>	4.3771584235
Dec 14 14:29:34 <Diablo-D3>	thats your profit per month per gh
Dec 14 14:29:51 <smickles>	ok, profit less revenue :P
Dec 14 14:30:09 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: hrm?
Dec 14 14:30:43 <Diablo-D3>	btw, I did that math using 12 cents per kwh
Dec 14 14:30:50 <Diablo-D3>	you'll have to substitute your own in for serious math
Dec 14 14:31:03 <Namjies>	Still no one in here willing to lend me 100 BTC I presume?
Dec 14 14:31:04 <Diablo-D3>	US depending on where you live is usually between 8 and 12 for residential
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Dec 14 14:31:47 <Diablo-D3>	now lets say diff increases 100x
Dec 14 14:32:22 <Diablo-D3>	you'll still be making 0.4476 per month and paying out 0.099 per month
Dec 14 14:32:39 <Diablo-D3>	er that was 10x
Dec 14 14:32:41 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Dec 14 14:32:46 <Diablo-D3>	if diff increases 100x, you're fucked
Dec 14 14:33:26 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: the idea is to factor out the diff changes
Dec 14 14:33:37 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 4.47673941864 / 0.0995809951366
Dec 14 14:33:37 <gribble>	44.9557610114
Dec 14 14:33:41 <mircea_popescu>	smickles tbh i always thought miner wants to buy diff nto sell it.
Dec 14 14:33:51 <Diablo-D3>	diff cant increase more than that in the first 24 months
Dec 14 14:34:21 <jcpham>	i have at least 6 weeks of 0.00012427 US DOLLARS PER SHARE left at coinlab
Dec 14 14:34:27 <jcpham>	maybe asic will be here by then
Dec 14 14:34:41 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 4.47673941864 / 0.0387878787879
Dec 14 14:34:41 <gribble>	115.415938137
Dec 14 14:34:52 <Diablo-D3>	diff cant increase that after 24 months
Dec 14 14:35:08 *	gigavps looks into his crystal ball
Dec 14 14:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00060837 = 6.2662 BTC [-]
Dec 14 14:35:24 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: so how much would you be selling the futures for?
Dec 14 14:35:52 <Diablo-D3>	4.377 * 2 per gh?
Dec 14 14:36:59 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: anyhow, I did the hard part of the math for you I think
Dec 14 14:37:27 <Diablo-D3>	diff can't go above 115x what it is now with btc at 13.50
Dec 14 14:37:56 <gigavps>	Diablo-D3 you sure?
Dec 14 14:38:11 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: this is a profit calculation
Dec 14 14:38:20 <jcpham>	i think my asic purchase is only profitable for me up to a 30x diff increase
Dec 14 14:38:26 <jcpham>	after 30x i'm fucked
Dec 14 14:38:40 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: with 12 cents a kwh power, and avalon units using 400 watts for 66gh, and btc at $13.50
Dec 14 14:38:43 <jcpham>	so a diff of 90 mil would end my mining
Dec 14 14:38:44 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: 115x is fatal
Dec 14 14:38:55 <gigavps>	who cares
Dec 14 14:38:57 <gigavps>	i'll mine
Dec 14 14:39:02 <gigavps>	i'm married to bitcoin
Dec 14 14:39:06 <jcpham>	hahaha
Dec 14 14:39:09 <Diablo-D3>	I think you missed the point.
Dec 14 14:39:17 <Diablo-D3>	;;diff
Dec 14 14:39:18 <gribble>	3370181.799277837
Dec 14 14:39:20 <gigavps>	i just said i don't care
Dec 14 14:39:24 <gigavps>	diff is dropping
Dec 14 14:39:29 <gigavps>	no one is delivering asics
Dec 14 14:39:29 <jcpham>	yeah it is
Dec 14 14:39:31 <Diablo-D3>	3.37 million diff
Dec 14 14:39:44 <gigavps>	;;bc,estimate
Dec 14 14:39:44 *	abracadabra looks to buy more gpus
Dec 14 14:39:45 <gribble>	3043795.00466468
Dec 14 14:39:46 <jcpham>	predictinator says diff is going down down down
Dec 14 14:39:49 <jcpham>	until asic exists
Dec 14 14:39:53 <gigavps>	;;bc,diffchange
Dec 14 14:39:55 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -9.6845456433 % based on data since last change | -15.4954531067 % based on data for last three days
Dec 14 14:40:00 <Diablo-D3>	so we'd need roughly 388 million diff for avalon to become unprofitable
Dec 14 14:40:08 <jcpham>	jeez
Dec 14 14:41:11 <Diablo-D3>	I think I scared smickles
Dec 14 14:41:18 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: so you said that the cost of equipment and elec. per month per gh was ~.09958?
Dec 14 14:41:46 <Diablo-D3>	[02:25:27] <Diablo-D3> ;;calc 0.12 / 1000 * 6.06060606061 / 13.50 * 24 * 30
Dec 14 14:41:46 <Diablo-D3>	[02:25:27] <gribble> 0.0387878787879
Dec 14 14:41:52 <Diablo-D3>	[02:26:11] <Diablo-D3> ;;calc  0.0387878787879 + 0.0607931163487
Dec 14 14:41:52 <Diablo-D3>	[02:26:11] <gribble> 0.0995809951366
Dec 14 14:41:55 <Diablo-D3>	yes.
Dec 14 14:42:08 <Diablo-D3>	oh and
Dec 14 14:42:11 <Diablo-D3>	[02:21:36] <Diablo-D3> ;;calc 1300 / 66 / 13.50 / 24
Dec 14 14:42:12 <Diablo-D3>	[02:21:37] <gribble> 0.0607931163487
Dec 14 14:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2702 @ 0.00339777 = 9.1808 BTC [-]
Dec 14 14:42:37 <Diablo-D3>	pretty sure I did the math right
Dec 14 14:42:40 <jcpham>	smickles if you need a partner to operate mining equipment for you...
Dec 14 14:43:07 <Diablo-D3>	dollars per kwh to watt hour times 6.06 watts convert to btc convert to day convert to month
Dec 14 14:43:20 <Diablo-D3>	oh and
Dec 14 14:43:29 <jcpham>	smickles let's create a mining asset and take the bitcoins!
Dec 14 14:43:31 <Diablo-D3>	[02:24:52] <Diablo-D3> ;;calc 400 / 66
Dec 14 14:43:31 <Diablo-D3>	[02:24:52] <gribble> 6.06060606061
Dec 14 14:43:39 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: so thats all the math.
Dec 14 14:44:03 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: 1300, 66, and 400 are dollars, gh, and watts from the vendor per unit
Dec 14 14:44:24 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: 0.12 is dollars per kwh
Dec 14 14:44:39 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: so you should be able to script that easily
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Dec 14 14:48:21 <smickles>	i need to research futures a bit more :o
Dec 14 14:50:02 <thestringpuller>	mining future
Dec 14 14:50:04 <thestringpuller>	s
Dec 14 14:50:36 <Diablo-D3>	ha ha I scared smickles
Dec 14 14:50:48 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: wait, what was the last you saw?
Dec 14 14:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00061517 = 4.5215 BTC [+]
Dec 14 14:51:10 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: it's not about your numbers, it's about my formula, the delta of diff futures etc
Dec 14 14:52:05 <smickles>	*delta of diff futures atm
Dec 14 14:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.60781728 = 607.8173 BTC [-]
Dec 14 14:53:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.52540165 = 525.4017 BTC [-]
Dec 14 14:55:18 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: ahh
Dec 14 14:55:18 <Diablo-D3>	see
Dec 14 14:55:22 <Diablo-D3>	I'd rather go for worst case
Dec 14 14:55:36 <Diablo-D3>	whats the chances of diff increasing 115x from right now
Dec 14 14:57:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00060837 = 3.9544 BTC [-]
Dec 14 14:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00060491 = 11.8865 BTC [-]
Dec 14 14:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	abracadabra looks to buy more gpus <<< prolly a safer investment
Dec 14 14:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	at least they  can be sold
Dec 14 14:58:38 <jcpham>	gpu mining is profitable if you have free power and enough time
Dec 14 14:58:51 <jcpham>	that time variable just got bigger though
Dec 14 14:58:54 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, if you have free power, you can just get unlimited gpus
Dec 14 14:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 90 @ 0.08471093 = 7.624 BTC [-]
Dec 14 14:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 14 14:59:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.34640, Best ask: 13.34641, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.34640, 24 hour volume: 63684.39592991, 24 hour low: 13.00000, 24 hour high: 13.90119, 24 hour vwap: 13.59704
Dec 14 14:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	we just lost half a cent
Dec 14 14:59:19 <mircea_popescu>	dolla
Dec 14 14:59:23 <jcpham>	down she goes
Dec 14 14:59:47 <mircea_popescu>	i was like, wtf are ppl buying puts
Dec 14 14:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6232 @ 0.00061517 = 3.8337 BTC [+]
Dec 14 14:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19054 @ 0.00061572 = 11.7319 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:00:17 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: did i not chat with you about this happening?
Dec 14 15:00:25 <smickles>	it touched 13
Dec 14 15:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	well ya but i dun trust ta any
Dec 14 15:01:09 <smickles>	:D
Dec 14 15:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.52536606 = 525.3661 BTC [-]
Dec 14 15:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.60778466 = 607.7847 BTC [-]
Dec 14 15:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	28k sold seems like, 5+4 5+4 10
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Dec 14 15:02:29 <smickles>	vwap is still 13.59 tho
Dec 14 15:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	yea
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Dec 14 15:03:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 78 @ 0.1599 = 12.4722 BTC [-]
Dec 14 15:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 922 @ 0.17157857 = 158.1954 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:03:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.12227209 = 122.2721 BTC [-]
Dec 14 15:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.23049813 = 230.4981 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 15:05:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3474 @ 0.00060798 = 2.1121 BTC [-]
Dec 14 15:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1546 @ 0.00061572 = 0.9519 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8001 @ 0.00062459 = 4.9973 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18326 @ 0.00060975 = 11.1743 BTC [-]
Dec 14 15:16:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1239 @ 0.00060491 = 0.7495 BTC [-]
Dec 14 15:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2242 @ 0.00060317 = 1.3523 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 15:27:34 <smickles>	ok, so, when you are mining, are you essentially buying diff, or selling diff by the action of mining?
Dec 14 15:28:21 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: you're selling a service
Dec 14 15:28:26 <smickles>	your work pressures the diff to increase, so you are, in effect selling diff
Dec 14 15:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	when you are mining you are taking virtual diff and turning it into real diff.
Dec 14 15:28:35 <Diablo-D3>	what your service is worth is a function of diff and btc prices
Dec 14 15:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	thus it helps to have a supply of already bought virtual diff
Dec 14 15:29:02 <smickles>	so, i had the move wrong
Dec 14 15:29:47 <smickles>	if mining is equiv. to selling diff, then buying diff futures nixes it, and any leftover value (the extrinsic value) is profit
Dec 14 15:31:17 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: what is the future of?
Dec 14 15:31:24 <smickles>	the difficulty
Dec 14 15:31:51 <Diablo-D3>	uh
Dec 14 15:31:53 <Diablo-D3>	how does that work?
Dec 14 15:32:14 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=X.IDIFF.DEC
Dec 14 15:32:25 <smickles>	X.IDIFF.DEC settles in BTC on the third Wednesday of December each year before midnight GMT as equal to the network difficulty then current, truncated to an integer and expressed in satoshi.
Dec 14 15:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	smickles http://mpex.co?mpsic=X.IDIFF.DEC
Dec 14 15:32:34 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: ^the relavant part
Dec 14 15:32:36 <smickles>	er
Dec 14 15:32:43 <Diablo-D3>	I dont get how that works
Dec 14 15:33:15 <smickles>	it's worth an amount of satoshis equal to the diff rate on dec 19th at midnight
Dec 14 15:33:53 <smickles>	so when you mine btc, you are essentially doing the same thing as selling that contract
Dec 14 15:33:53 <Diablo-D3>	okay so
Dec 14 15:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5749 @ 0.00062459 = 3.5908 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:34:00 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: okay so wait
Dec 14 15:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00062706 = 0.6716 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6630 @ 0.00062714 = 4.1579 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:34:05 <Diablo-D3>	if I want to make money
Dec 14 15:34:16 <Diablo-D3>	I create the futures, sell them, and then mine like no tommorow?
Dec 14 15:34:27 <smickles>	actually
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Dec 14 15:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	i think you buy them
Dec 14 15:35:05 <Diablo-D3>	well who creates the futures then?
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Dec 14 15:35:30 <smickles>	anyone
Dec 14 15:35:33 <Diablo-D3>	because whoever is mining wants to bet the diff will only go up
Dec 14 15:35:46 <smickles>	oh, who should do it?
Dec 14 15:35:49 <mircea_popescu>	no, whoever is mining wants to insure against diff going up
Dec 14 15:35:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00061947 = 4.3673 BTC [-]
Dec 14 15:36:07 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: if they're playing the future game?
Dec 14 15:36:24 <Diablo-D3>	because the more mining hardware they own, the more the diff goes up
Dec 14 15:36:29 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu and I are talking about two different things, him: insureance, me arbitrage
Dec 14 15:36:42 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Dec 14 15:36:45 <Diablo-D3>	neither of you make sense to me
Dec 14 15:37:03 <smickles>	it's possible to calc a point to buy at where anything on one side of the line is risk free profit
Dec 14 15:37:12 <smickles>	*really low risk anyway
Dec 14 15:37:21 <smickles>	you'd have to keep the mining farm operating
Dec 14 15:37:33 <mircea_popescu>	look, it's really simple. you have 1k btc, want to mine. case A : you buy mining gear worth 1k btc. mine. as diff goes up you make less btc from mining
Dec 14 15:37:42 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: but why wouldnt I just sell mining contracts instead?
Dec 14 15:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	case B : you buy 900 BTC worth of mining gear and 100 btc worth of diff futures
Dec 14 15:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	as diff goes up you make less from mining but some money from the future
Dec 14 15:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	so overall you end up having more money than case A
Dec 14 15:38:20 <Diablo-D3>	okay, so you DO want diff to go up if you want to win at futures
Dec 14 15:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	if you buy them yes.
Dec 14 15:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	if you sell them no.
Dec 14 15:38:35 <Diablo-D3>	crap
Dec 14 15:38:37 <Diablo-D3>	that sucks then
Dec 14 15:38:42 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: because people shouldn't actually buy those mining contracts, the fact that there is a market for that shit baffles me
Dec 14 15:38:59 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: well, I was using it as virtual hash power for dmc before we got dmc
Dec 14 15:39:07 <Diablo-D3>	nefario was kind enough to steal a lot of dmc's money doing that
Dec 14 15:40:02 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: what's the max diff increase per occurrance?
Dec 14 15:40:14 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: Im not sure
Dec 14 15:40:17 <Diablo-D3>	ask gmaxwell or sipa
Dec 14 15:40:42 <smickles>	kk
Dec 14 15:40:45 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Dec 14 15:40:46 <gribble>	3370181.7992778
Dec 14 15:41:17 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: its fast enough we can cross that 115x in 24 months if we had the hardware to do it
Dec 14 15:42:58 <lyspooner>	smickles, the future is very good for miners to buy
Dec 14 15:43:06 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: but we'd have to go from 17TH to like 17EH or something
Dec 14 15:43:07 <mircea_popescu>	400%
Dec 14 15:43:50 <mircea_popescu>	the problem is that as hash output increases the 2k blocks go by faster, so the 400% is not related to time
Dec 14 15:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	you could get 1mn% in a few hours with enough power added
Dec 14 15:44:17 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: trying to play that game doesnt work
Dec 14 15:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00062165 = 10.4437 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:44:34 <Diablo-D3>	people were like "what if I power cycled a 51% mining cluster"
Dec 14 15:44:36 <Diablo-D3>	it doesnt work
Dec 14 15:44:45 <lyspooner>	"not related to time"... it's defined by time, if you just rid your antiquated idea of what time is
Dec 14 15:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	"work"
Dec 14 15:44:50 <Diablo-D3>	2016 blocks on, 2016 blocks off
Dec 14 15:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol right lyspooner
Dec 14 15:44:54 <Diablo-D3>	you cant beat the game that way
Dec 14 15:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18020 @ 0.00062714 = 11.3011 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:45:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7108 @ 0.00062729 = 4.4588 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17993 @ 0.00062729 = 11.2868 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5907 @ 0.0006273 = 3.7055 BTC [+]
Dec 14 15:48:38 <Diablo-D3>	lyspooner: well, Ive used difficulty as a unit of time before
Dec 14 15:48:51 <Diablo-D3>	makes a lot of calculations a lot easier
Dec 14 15:49:11 <lyspooner>	Bitcoin Time is time
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Dec 14 15:49:39 <lyspooner>	the blockchain has been described as a distributed timestamp
Dec 14 15:49:53 <Diablo-D3>	and it sorta is
Dec 14 15:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	kinda is yea
Dec 14 15:51:03 <Diablo-D3>	its more of an ordering protocol than anything
Dec 14 15:52:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16672 @ 0.0006241 = 10.405 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 15:53:54 <lyspooner>	yes, that incremental blockheader is a very beautiful thing.  although the block reward halving party wasn't as exciting as a new years countdown
Dec 14 15:54:15 <lyspooner>	memorylessness of waiting for a block
Dec 14 15:54:36 <mircea_popescu>	hehe wait for next one, when it goes from 25 to 12.5
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Dec 14 15:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1513 @ 0.0006241 = 0.9443 BTC [-]
Dec 14 15:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9087 @ 0.00062386 = 5.669 BTC [-]
Dec 14 15:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 14 15:59:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.34963, Best ask: 13.36000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01037, Last trade: 13.34963, 24 hour volume: 67793.60594621, 24 hour low: 13.00000, 24 hour high: 13.90119, 24 hour vwap: 13.57774
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Dec 14 16:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.2315999 = 231.5999 BTC [+]
Dec 14 16:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.17242083 = 172.4208 BTC [+]
Dec 14 16:00:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.12284241 = 122.8424 BTC [+]
Dec 14 16:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14093 @ 0.0006273 = 8.8405 BTC [+]
Dec 14 16:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2899 @ 0.00062746 = 1.819 BTC [+]
Dec 14 16:07:44 <jcpham>	http://static.pinboard.in/prosperity_cloud.htm
Dec 14 16:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00062386 = 4.679 BTC [-]
Dec 14 16:10:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00062727 = 11.2909 BTC [+]
Dec 14 16:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	Each successful applicant will receive $37. This will cover the cost of six months of hosting at prgmr.com and a productivity-enhancing hot beverage.
Dec 14 16:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	gtfo
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Dec 14 16:22:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062398 = 2.6962 BTC [-]
Dec 14 16:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062394 = 2.696 BTC [-]
Dec 14 16:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4763 @ 0.00062386 = 2.9714 BTC [-]
Dec 14 16:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10495 @ 0.00062146 = 6.5222 BTC [-]
Dec 14 16:29:09 <jcpham>	$37 is all you need to suceed!
Dec 14 16:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006215 = 2.6855 BTC [+]
Dec 14 16:29:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9505 @ 0.00062146 = 5.907 BTC [-]
Dec 14 16:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3874 @ 0.00061993 = 2.4016 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 16:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	im sick of dubious hacks trying to be viral.
Dec 14 16:30:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7497 @ 0.00061993 = 4.6476 BTC [-]
Dec 14 16:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	i don't need 37 to succeed and i specifically do not need some nobody giving it to me.
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Dec 14 16:31:07 <jcpham>	c'mon is funny
Dec 14 16:33:17 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Dec 14 16:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	i'd say it's unfunny
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Dec 14 16:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00337576 = 6.5827 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 16:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062701 = 2.7093 BTC [+]
Dec 14 16:50:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1133 @ 0.00062727 = 0.7107 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 16:52:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006271 = 2.7097 BTC [-]
Dec 14 16:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1967 @ 0.00062727 = 1.2338 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 16:58:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11901 @ 0.00062746 = 7.4674 BTC [+]
Dec 14 16:58:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00062779 = 1.0986 BTC [+]
Dec 14 16:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13949 @ 0.00062784 = 8.7577 BTC [+]
Dec 14 17:02:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00062729 = 5.1751 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 17:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 14 17:14:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.54501, Best ask: 13.54502, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.54501, 24 hour volume: 69716.29959509, 24 hour low: 13.00000, 24 hour high: 13.90119, 24 hour vwap: 13.56544
Dec 14 17:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	soo... rebound ?
Dec 14 17:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons : for your viewing pleasure, i bring you http://imfed.org/ratings/
Dec 14 17:17:55 <iz>	;;bc,nethash
Dec 14 17:17:56 <gribble>	20297.881954241293
Dec 14 17:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062769 = 2.7122 BTC [+]
Dec 14 17:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3679 @ 0.00062784 = 2.3098 BTC [+]
Dec 14 17:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2603 @ 0.00062729 = 1.6328 BTC [-]
Dec 14 17:20:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061999 = 2.679 BTC [-]
Dec 14 17:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7129 @ 0.00061993 = 4.4195 BTC [-]
Dec 14 17:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00061947 = 1.5177 BTC [-]
Dec 14 17:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2115 @ 0.00061872 = 1.3086 BTC [-]
Dec 14 17:22:59 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: who runs that?
Dec 14 17:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	some new forum kid
Dec 14 17:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	-pr is making it her life mission to skewer btctalk noobies it seems
Dec 14 17:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	i guess she's run out of old trolls to bite the heads off
Dec 14 17:24:10 <pigeons>	the presentation is nice
Dec 14 17:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	isnt it like stock wp ?
Dec 14 17:25:58 <pigeons>	pretty close
Dec 14 17:27:12 <pigeons>	heh, "free vanity addresses"
Dec 14 17:27:54 <jurov>	just read scrollback.. so we are bribing asset/passthrough issuers now? and mpex.co :)
Dec 14 17:28:46 <mircea_popescu>	Hello everyone, my name is Yifu. Despise my fairly-lengthy involvement with Bitcoin, most of you do not know me.
Dec 14 17:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	gotta love esl
Dec 14 17:29:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov :p
Dec 14 17:29:01 *	jurov rushes to create some exciting assets for bitfunder
Dec 14 17:29:06 <pigeons>	i also love how people think a month is a long time
Dec 14 17:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	well... not people per se. investoars.
Dec 14 17:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	gotta give it to them : they won' be around in 2-3 of those so. their mark must be left in a week preferably.
Dec 14 17:29:54 <pigeons>	i mean i've been reading this forum for a month, therefore i've got fairly lenghty involvement in the project
Dec 14 17:30:58 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Dec 14 17:31:07 <mircea_popescu>	so in the end avalon actually ships jan ?
Dec 14 17:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11408 @ 0.00062518 = 7.1321 BTC [+]
Dec 14 17:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1592 @ 0.00062768 = 0.9993 BTC [+]
Dec 14 17:34:18 <pigeons>	doesnt look like bfl or cable[pair will
Dec 14 17:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	who banked on avalon ?
Dec 14 17:37:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00339777 = 3.3978 BTC [+]
Dec 14 17:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	Let's assume Tom sold 1000 units, that's give or take 50TH/s,
Dec 14 17:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	Avalon only selling 300 units first batch, ~20TH.
Dec 14 17:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	BFL sells a crazy estimate of 2000 units, 120TH.
Dec 14 17:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 244 @ 0.00339777 = 0.8291 BTC [+]
Dec 14 17:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	ahh, the sweet days of october
Dec 14 17:39:29 <jurov>	maybe that was already discussed, but what if i do 1.mkfut 2. sell all the futures 3. difficulty skyrockets
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Dec 14 17:39:47 <jurov>	they'll get forcibly liquidated even if nwner is different now?
Dec 14 17:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061877 = 2.6737 BTC [-]
Dec 14 17:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11279 @ 0.00061872 = 6.9785 BTC [-]
Dec 14 17:39:54 <jurov>	*owner
Dec 14 17:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	jurov YOUR collateral is what gets wiped.
Dec 14 17:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	the new owner gets it
Dec 14 17:40:48 <jurov>	ok, but what if i did not have enough collateral?
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Dec 14 17:41:36 <jurov>	new owner will suddenly see the futures liquidated?
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Dec 14 17:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Dec 14 17:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	Also unlike other futures contracts X.IDIFF.* are not subject to an insurance fee. Consequently, in the event of a net seller's deposited collateral being exceded by current difficulty a proportional number of open contracts will be forcibly liquidated.
Dec 14 17:43:58 <jurov>	interesting
Dec 14 17:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	101`179.33038841 BTC klalala
Dec 14 17:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it's a little kludgy, but i see no other way to do it.
Dec 14 17:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully mining market matures soon and we can move to a saner method
Dec 14 17:50:54 <jurov>	in the meantime, asic suppliers have got ideal instrument for insider trading
Dec 14 17:52:01 <jurov>	as using them to mine bears the risk someone spotting them
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Dec 14 17:58:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00062273 = 0.1868 BTC [+]
Dec 14 17:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	so they buy diff before they deliver cause thye know they will ?
Dec 14 18:01:39 <Namjies>	Why not?
Dec 14 18:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4021 @ 0.00062273 = 2.504 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:02:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8979 @ 0.00062262 = 5.5905 BTC [-]
Dec 14 18:02:08 <Namjies>	I'd abuse the heck out of those futures if I knew I was about to dump massive hashing into the network.
Dec 14 18:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17271 @ 0.00062262 = 10.7533 BTC [-]
Dec 14 18:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2379 @ 0.00061872 = 1.4719 BTC [-]
Dec 14 18:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00062431 = 4.8384 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:05:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2729 @ 0.00062768 = 1.7129 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2272 @ 0.00062784 = 1.4265 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:06:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9530 @ 0.00062848 = 5.9894 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 719 @ 0.00062914 = 0.4524 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:07:01 <Namjies>	Well I'm lacking 21.25 BTC on my loan for it to get funded, expiring in ~ an hour: https://btcjam.com/listings/899
Dec 14 18:07:34 <Namjies>	Anyone can fill that last stretch?
Dec 14 18:11:26 <dub>	guruvan seems to have lost it
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Dec 14 18:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006189 = 2.6743 BTC [-]
Dec 14 18:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6979 @ 0.00061872 = 4.318 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 18:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	dub what he do ?
Dec 14 18:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies in principle i can see it.
Dec 14 18:20:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062881 = 2.7171 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:20:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11881 @ 0.00062914 = 7.4748 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:20:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9148 @ 0.00062962 = 5.7598 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:20:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00062973 = 9.0366 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:31:19 <mircea_popescu>	no one use MPW this time. include us, BFL ,bASIC, asicminer, etc.
Dec 14 18:31:19 <mircea_popescu>	just like a Chinese network catchword: we are all fighting without pants. (我们都已经脱了裤子干了)
Dec 14 18:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	i guess today i learned how you spell insanity in chinese.
Dec 14 18:32:52 <Diablo-D3>	mpw?
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Dec 14 18:33:39 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Dec 14 18:33:40 <gribble>	3370181.7992778
Dec 14 18:35:11 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Dec 14 18:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	multi project
Dec 14 18:35:34 <mircea_popescu>	like a proper run but for 1/50 of cost
Dec 14 18:36:55 <Diablo-D3>	oh, that
Dec 14 18:39:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062163 = 2.6861 BTC [-]
Dec 14 18:39:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17629 @ 0.00062161 = 10.9584 BTC [-]
Dec 14 18:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 58823 @ 0.0034 = 199.9982 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062944 = 2.7198 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062969 = 2.7209 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00062973 = 3.558 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00063006 = 9.3249 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:43:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12573 @ 0.00063011 = 7.9224 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:43:44 <smickles>	there is now a spread on idiff.mar
Dec 14 18:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 265 @ 0.0034 = 0.901 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5214 @ 0.00062313 = 3.249 BTC [-]
Dec 14 18:48:29 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Dec 14 18:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.00000823/0.1395
Dec 14 18:48:45 <gribble>	5.89964157706e-05
Dec 14 18:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1-0.00000823/0.1395
Dec 14 18:48:57 <gribble>	0.999941003584
Dec 14 18:49:08 <mircea_popescu>	what's a 99,994% spread lmao
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Dec 14 18:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.0034 = 340 BTC [+]
Dec 14 18:57:54 <dub>	heh nice quote
Dec 14 18:58:18 <dub>	guns dont kill people, people who say 'guns dont kill people' kill people with guns
Dec 14 18:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300000 @ 0.0034 = 1020 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 19:00:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300000 @ 0.0034 = 1020 BTC [+]
Dec 14 19:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	eh
Dec 14 19:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 14 19:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00328789 / 0.00339807 / 0.0034 (930860 shares, 3,163.13 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00337654 / 0.0034 (2870204 shares, 9,691.38 BTC)
Dec 14 19:01:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300000 @ 0.0034 = 1020 BTC [+]
Dec 14 19:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol, people like the dividends eh
Dec 14 19:03:31 <Diablo-D3>	I dont
Dec 14 19:03:35 <Diablo-D3>	they're disgusting things
Dec 14 19:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	it sold like... 3.5-4k in the past half hour
Dec 14 19:04:16 <Diablo-D3>	the fuck.
Dec 14 19:04:27 <Diablo-D3>	the _fuck_
Dec 14 19:04:31 <Diablo-D3>	did the bot just get stuck or what?
Dec 14 19:04:45 <mircea_popescu>	for those sorts of sums i doubt it
Dec 14 19:04:59 <Diablo-D3>	three identical orders totaling 3k?
Dec 14 19:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	comes to 1mn if you take the other 100k one
Dec 14 19:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	and a 60k before
Dec 14 19:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 18500 @ 0.0034 = 62.9 BTC [+]
Dec 14 19:14:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 320000 @ 0.0034 = 1088 BTC [+]
Dec 14 19:16:46 <Diablo-D3>	airjaerkfd;c'
Dec 14 19:18:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INKG] 150 @ 0.07458535 = 11.1878 BTC [+]
Dec 14 19:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	heh that 34k block is like half gone.
Dec 14 19:20:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2524 @ 0.00062162 = 1.569 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:20:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 725 @ 0.22344233 = 161.9957 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:21:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ISP5] 550 @ 0.10152287 = 55.8376 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1797 @ 0.00062162 = 1.1171 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23171 @ 0.00062161 = 14.4033 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00062039 = 11.4152 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4698 @ 0.00061872 = 2.9067 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00061846 = 9.5243 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00061837 = 8.1006 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00061804 = 2.2867 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00061771 = 5.2814 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00061402 = 1.5351 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00061071 = 11.7867 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00061064 = 5.4958 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.0006095 = 6.3388 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00060938 = 10.1157 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.0006087 = 16.6784 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19148 @ 0.00060854 = 11.6523 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9669 @ 0.00060793 = 5.8781 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17858 @ 0.00060317 = 10.7714 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:22:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19309 @ 0.00060027 = 11.5906 BTC [-]
Dec 14 19:47:08 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i'm gonig to get you investors
Dec 14 19:47:17 <mircea_popescu>	a ?
Dec 14 19:47:36 <thestringpuller>	I'm going to solicit rich people to give me money then I'll give it to you
Dec 14 19:48:02 <thestringpuller>	solid plan right?
Dec 14 19:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 14 19:48:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1686 @ 0.00062313 = 1.0506 BTC [+]
Dec 14 19:49:07 <thestringpuller>	srsly
Dec 14 19:49:20 <thestringpuller>	I know a few people who are sitting on fiat
Dec 14 19:49:26 <thestringpuller>	I know a good person to give that to :)
Dec 14 19:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120184.msg1383654#msg1383654 lmao chinese people insulting each other is a riot
Dec 14 19:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	what am i gonna do with fiat ?
Dec 14 19:49:46 <Diablo-D3>	I tried to put a stop to this one
Dec 14 19:49:48 <thestringpuller>	I'm going to convert it to btc first
Dec 14 19:49:49 <Diablo-D3>	I gave up
Dec 14 19:49:53 <thestringpuller>	and make it look like a fiat investment
Dec 14 19:50:01 <thestringpuller>	and just funnel fiat into btc via mpex
Dec 14 19:51:09 <mircea_popescu>	i had no idea you could do that.
Dec 14 19:52:04 <thestringpuller>	if someone gave me 10,000 dollars I would just put that into btc then give you the btc
Dec 14 19:52:10 <thestringpuller>	when I say you I mean mpex
Dec 14 19:52:20 <pigeons>	he doesn't need it
Dec 14 19:52:28 <pigeons>	give it to me, i'll do interesting things with it
Dec 14 19:53:00 <thestringpuller>	but he can give me an roi :P
Dec 14 19:53:13 <thestringpuller>	can you give me a solid investment platform pigeons for my investors?
Dec 14 19:53:34 <pigeons>	oh no return
Dec 14 19:53:42 <pigeons>	i was gonna spend it
Dec 14 19:53:45 <thestringpuller>	:P
Dec 14 19:55:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol on btc jam
Dec 14 19:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller actually s.dice looks set to make 5ish % this month
Dec 14 19:56:20 <thestringpuller>	;;calc .05 * 10000
Dec 14 19:56:20 <gribble>	500
Dec 14 19:56:23 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 14 19:57:21 <thestringpuller>	I think MPOE has more value to the community than DICE
Dec 14 19:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	apparently so think many others
Dec 14 19:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	it's like 2x the price
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Dec 14 19:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	o look, it's the man himself.
Dec 14 19:58:38 <thestringpuller>	I think the future market is a good start, once you're able to buy manufacturing level volumes of commodities, people may use BTC as a primary trade vehile.
Dec 14 19:58:41 <thestringpuller>	vehicle*
Dec 14 19:58:52 <evoorhees>	bonjour mircea
Dec 14 19:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i been trying to get futures with phys delivery for a year now
Dec 14 19:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	it's insanely hard cause of legal lockdown
Dec 14 19:59:14 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees everyone's in awe of s.dice here :D
Dec 14 19:59:17 <thestringpuller>	exactly, government sponsored monopoly it is
Dec 14 19:59:27 <thestringpuller>	not me, I think it's run by the mafia
Dec 14 19:59:31 <evoorhees>	in what way do you mean, mircea?
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Dec 14 19:59:47 <mircea_popescu>	in the way of omg wtf 15k+
Dec 14 20:00:14 <evoorhees>	it's never earned 15k+ in one day
Dec 14 20:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	current month tho. or are my figures off ?
Dec 14 20:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006298 = 2.7214 BTC [+]
Dec 14 20:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 939 @ 0.00063011 = 0.5917 BTC [+]
Dec 14 20:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18090 @ 0.00063048 = 11.4054 BTC [+]
Dec 14 20:00:34 <evoorhees>	oh for the month... hehe yes
Dec 14 20:00:49 <evoorhees>	well, slightly less than that for Dec so far
Dec 14 20:01:05 <evoorhees>	more like 12k
Dec 14 20:01:09 <mircea_popescu>	was it seriously macau ppl betting like crazy ?
Dec 14 20:01:22 <evoorhees>	nobody from macau
Dec 14 20:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	a
Dec 14 20:01:34 <evoorhees>	we were introducing people there to bitcoin
Dec 14 20:01:45 <evoorhees>	it'll be a while before those connections make their way to bitcoinland
Dec 14 20:01:53 <thestringpuller>	evoorhees: I thought you'd be too busy having fun in New York to drop in on us.
Dec 14 20:01:56 <evoorhees>	no store in macau yet to buy btc :)
Dec 14 20:02:17 <evoorhees>	actually I'm stuck in bed right now cause a fucking spider bit me and it got infected
Dec 14 20:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Dec 14 20:02:33 <evoorhees>	so I'm on antibiotics and have to keep my leg elevated
Dec 14 20:02:33 <thestringpuller>	now you'll get super powers no?
Dec 14 20:02:38 <evoorhees>	I'm hoping
Dec 14 20:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	those things suck
Dec 14 20:02:57 <evoorhees>	yeah :(
Dec 14 20:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063037 = 2.7238 BTC [-]
Dec 14 20:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6156 @ 0.00063048 = 3.8812 BTC [+]
Dec 14 20:03:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11144 @ 0.0006306 = 7.0274 BTC [+]
Dec 14 20:03:52 <thestringpuller>	we should get phys delivery of cocoa by doing a deal with the columbian cartels
Dec 14 20:04:09 <Diablo-D3>	MAKE THIS HAPPEN, ASSHOLES: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/define-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group-due-promoting-animosity-against-differing-cultural/xHF0d3nq?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
Dec 14 20:04:50 <thestringpuller>	yes because signatures from romanian mobsters will help so much
Dec 14 20:04:51 <mircea_popescu>	i thought cocoa mostly comes from africa/ivory coast
Dec 14 20:05:04 <thestringpuller>	there is a large amount of it grown in south america
Dec 14 20:05:14 <thestringpuller>	unless it's changed
Dec 14 20:05:18 <evoorhees>	Diablo... that's a stupid petition lol
Dec 14 20:05:23 <pigeons>	https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/secure-resources-and-funding-and-begin-construction-death-star-2016/wlfKzFkN
Dec 14 20:05:37 <thestringpuller>	now that's a good petition
Dec 14 20:06:01 <evoorhees>	bleh... just another big government program
Dec 14 20:06:13 <evoorhees>	not the worst I've seen though ;)
Dec 14 20:06:52 <pigeons>	Ukto: you didn't get eskimobob either https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/ART
Dec 14 20:06:52 <thestringpuller>	I would say eCommerce is the worst
Dec 14 20:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons is this the mugmaking entreprise ?
Dec 14 20:08:16 <pigeons>	well the mugs were to get btc people interesting in giving a little coin to the effort to get a kiln
Dec 14 20:08:16 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob never gives up
Dec 14 20:08:48 <Ukto>	pigeons: it happens
Dec 14 20:08:52 <pigeons>	yeah
Dec 14 20:08:57 <pigeons>	outlast
Dec 14 20:09:13 <Ukto>	I am not afraid of the competition that I will go mudslinging everywhere
Dec 14 20:09:21 <pigeons>	heh
Dec 14 20:09:33 <Ukto>	I have made arrangements for some assets now
Dec 14 20:10:01 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: the idea you had about certified code review, why not extend that to a code-factory
Dec 14 20:12:15 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 14 20:12:15 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 28 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <smickles> there is now a spread on idiff.mar
Dec 14 20:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	that may be an idea.
Dec 14 20:13:03 <Ukto>	heey evoorhees
Dec 14 20:13:13 <thestringpuller>	well the thing is mircea_popescu is that with the growing complexity of building code, it may be better for there to be an architect who can design it and to have code monkey's build it
Dec 14 20:13:21 <Ukto>	that sound like a pita x,x
Dec 14 20:13:54 <evoorhees>	hi ukto
Dec 14 20:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
Dec 14 20:15:12 <Ukto>	evoorhees: sounds ike a great dividend month comming up :P
Dec 14 20:15:42 <Ukto>	I will probably be buying some shares myself via Terra once he gets things listed
Dec 14 20:15:53 <evoorhees>	best month yet, by far
Dec 14 20:16:28 <Ukto>	although I was planning to avoid buying shares on my own exchange, I really don't see much of a problem with it
Dec 14 20:16:37 <Ukto>	*but
Dec 14 20:18:57 <thestringpuller>	I feel like giving dividends to shareholders is a waste of capital
Dec 14 20:19:04 <thestringpuller>	use that money to give bonuses to the CEO's
Dec 14 20:24:09 <mod6>	hrm
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Dec 14 20:37:23 <thestringpuller>	i should raise bitcoins to make dexter's lab
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Dec 14 20:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00063005 = 8.1276 BTC [-]
Dec 14 20:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062528 = 3.7517 BTC [-]
Dec 14 20:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	haha! i got assbot and all the split people can't see it.
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Dec 14 20:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1245517 @ 0.0034 = 4234.7578 BTC [+]
Dec 14 20:48:21 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: come again?
Dec 14 20:48:35 <mircea_popescu>	netsplit
Dec 14 20:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Dec 14 20:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 14 20:48:45 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00328789 / 0.0033994 / 0.0034 (2813127 shares, 9,562.97 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00338584 / 0.0034 (4754221 shares, 16,097.04 BTC)
Dec 14 20:49:03 <thestringpuller>	what did you mean you got assbot?
Dec 14 20:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	he's on this side of the split
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Dec 14 20:54:24 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1400804#msg1400804 why cant he stop? Is he really a troll?
Dec 14 20:54:39 <Ukto>	stupid netsplit
Dec 14 20:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	wb
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Dec 14 20:55:40 <Guest6144>	hey
Dec 14 20:55:46 <Guest6144>	stupid nickserv
Dec 14 20:55:46 <thestringpuller>	another asset exchange?
Dec 14 20:55:47 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Dec 14 20:55:57 <Guest6144>	thestringpuller: another as of when?
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Dec 14 20:56:16 <Guest6144>	BitFunder was in public beta testing in June
Dec 14 20:56:49 <thestringpuller>	sounds laaame
Dec 14 20:56:53 <thestringpuller>	just list on mpex
Dec 14 20:57:09 <Guest6144>	list an exchange on mpex?
Dec 14 20:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Dec 14 20:58:05 <thestringpuller>	yessir
Dec 14 20:58:32 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 14 20:59:11 <thestringpuller>	Utko, what do you own?
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Dec 14 20:59:53 <Ukto>	BitFunder
Dec 14 21:00:05 <Ukto>	also, hashpower, and weexchange
Dec 14 21:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	and hp
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Dec 14 21:00:24 <Ukto>	oh, and I own some of btct.co
Dec 14 21:00:27 <Ukto>	:)
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Dec 14 21:00:32 <Ukto>	er BTC-GLOBAL
Dec 14 21:00:32 <Ukto>	even
Dec 14 21:01:29 <kakobrekla>	hp pft, ill open an international bitcoin machines
Dec 14 21:01:49 <Ukto>	Internation house of Bitocoins? IHOB? :P
Dec 14 21:01:55 <kakobrekla>	ibm
Dec 14 21:01:56 <kakobrekla>	:p
Dec 14 21:02:01 <Ukto>	hehehe
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Dec 14 21:03:31 <Ukto>	wb
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Dec 14 21:06:45 <thestringpuller>	fringe science!
Dec 14 21:06:58 <thestringpuller>	you know they are working on hyperspace trvel
Dec 14 21:07:29 <pigeons>	a seller's profile on a site i'm looking at : "im the most honest person i know"
Dec 14 21:07:38 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 14 21:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	virgin
Dec 14 21:11:43 <thestringpuller>	like you mircea_popescu ?
Dec 14 21:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Dec 14 21:12:00 <thestringpuller>	:)
Dec 14 21:15:37 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: invest in fringe science
Dec 14 21:15:57 <mircea_popescu>	fridge dood. it's called fridge
Dec 14 21:16:09 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Dec 14 21:16:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 103 @ 0.12366005 = 12.737 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:16:49 <pigeons>	special magnetic breacelets that take 5 strokes from your gold game if you believe enough, 5 btc
Dec 14 21:16:55 <pigeons>	*golf
Dec 14 21:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	do they go on penis ?
Dec 14 21:17:42 <pigeons>	10 btc
Dec 14 21:17:58 <pigeons>	gotta believe though
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Dec 14 21:18:38 <mircea_popescu>	10 btc for 5 strokes ? wtf is this, 2009 ?
Dec 14 21:19:07 <pigeons>	results may vary
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Dec 14 21:21:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.EWTI] 133 @ 0.0614575 = 8.1738 BTC [-]
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Dec 14 21:23:20 <thestringpuller>	so how do we get pysical delivery of futures?
Dec 14 21:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	need a clearinghouse.
Dec 14 21:26:18 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: DHL :P
Dec 14 21:26:27 <Ukto>	they are reliable, right?
Dec 14 21:27:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00063014 = 7.7507 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:27:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.0006306 = 0.1261 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:29:31 <smickles>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 14 21:29:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00328789 / 0.0033994 / 0.0034 (2813127 shares, 9,562.97 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00338584 / 0.0034 (4754221 shares, 16,097.04 BTC)
Dec 14 21:30:00 *	smickles melts
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Dec 14 21:31:23 <Bugpowder>	holy shit
Dec 14 21:31:51 <Bugpowder>	somebody needs to buy my futures so I can buy S.DICE before it hits 6000000
Dec 14 21:32:03 <Bugpowder>	2.5M share purchase?
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Dec 14 21:33:38 <Namjies>	Which futures?
Dec 14 21:33:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 12353 @ 0.0034 = 42.0002 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:34:47 <Bugpowder>	INDQ
Dec 14 21:34:59 <Bugpowder>	Gold Crude and Nas100
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Dec 14 21:35:19 <Bugpowder>	I'm selling at current settlement value for fucks sake
Dec 14 21:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8106 @ 0.0006306 = 5.1116 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 244 @ 0.00063066 = 0.1539 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:36:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0034 = 6.8 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:37:45 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE is going to explode by EOM
Dec 14 21:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5086 @ 0.00063066 = 3.2075 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10626 @ 0.00063067 = 6.7015 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:41:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i waswaiting for you to go online lol
Dec 14 21:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 14 21:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00328789 / 0.00339941 / 0.0034 (2827480 shares, 9,611.77 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00338588 / 0.0034 (4768574 shares, 16,145.84 BTC)
Dec 14 21:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	10k traded today.
Dec 14 21:42:33 *	mircea_popescu waves @ smickles 
Dec 14 21:42:51 *	smickles puddles @ mircea_popescu 
Dec 14 21:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 14 21:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062555 = 2.703 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6775 @ 0.00062528 = 4.2363 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00062478 = 9.4342 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26536 @ 0.00062348 = 16.5447 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	crazy day.
Dec 14 21:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063065 = 2.725 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8374 @ 0.00063067 = 5.2812 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00063072 = 4.2258 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.0006308 = 1.8609 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1205 @ 0.00063101 = 0.7604 BTC [+]
Dec 14 21:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	alrighty, too much excitement for one day. catch you all later!
Dec 14 21:46:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062381 = 2.6955 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14228 @ 0.00062348 = 8.8709 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00062302 = 14.018 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41025 @ 0.0006189 = 25.3904 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17194 @ 0.00060654 = 10.4288 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3718 @ 0.0006058 = 2.2524 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2439 @ 0.00060027 = 1.4641 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:47:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00060016 = 18.0048 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:47:13 <Bugpowder>	heh
Dec 14 21:47:21 <Bugpowder>	I need MOAR S.DICE
Dec 14 21:47:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300000 @ 0.0006 = 180 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:48:22 <Bugpowder>	10000*.002
Dec 14 21:48:32 <Namjies>	Hey, SatoshiDice got slightly purchased today.
Dec 14 21:48:36 <Bugpowder>	not a bad days profit in sales fees
Dec 14 21:48:56 <Bugpowder>	All the other stocks have gone up massively
Dec 14 21:49:07 <Bugpowder>	only S.DICE priced the IPO correctly
Dec 14 21:49:12 <Bugpowder>	when the top tier sells out
Dec 14 21:49:16 <Bugpowder>	...
Dec 14 21:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder actually... they're making 5% a month ?
Dec 14 21:49:28 <mircea_popescu>	i fail to see how that's correctly.
Dec 14 21:49:29 <Bugpowder>	this month
Dec 14 21:49:32 <Namjies>	So other stocks were underpriced?
Dec 14 21:49:47 <Bugpowder>	let's see it for a few months in a row
Dec 14 21:50:03 <Bugpowder>	MPOE bot is making ~9% a month
Dec 14 21:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	yes this month. the thing is, i think after the variousdebacles startying with pirate people were loath to dump the 100k it should have commanded.
Dec 14 21:50:38 <mircea_popescu>	but at any rate, take the yearly ffigure : 32k, since april.
Dec 14 21:50:43 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Dec 14 21:50:46 <Bugpowder>	well
Dec 14 21:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	10% return ? in BTC ?
Dec 14 21:50:49 <Bugpowder>	actually 29k
Dec 14 21:51:05 <Bugpowder>	some stuck payouts right now
Dec 14 21:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Dec 14 21:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	but still.
Dec 14 21:51:14 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Dec 14 21:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	there's never been an asset returning 10% a year IN BTC
Dec 14 21:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	not on this massive scale anyway.
Dec 14 21:51:54 <Bugpowder>	I have sellers remorse on S.MPOE and S.BVPS
Dec 14 21:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	so im definitely claiming firsts here.
Dec 14 21:51:58 <Bugpowder>	not happening with S.DICE
Dec 14 21:52:05 <Bugpowder>	Buy and hold
Dec 14 21:52:09 <mircea_popescu>	irl people usually advise to buy and hold
Dec 14 21:52:14 <Namjies>	How much did you sell S.BVPS?
Dec 14 21:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	in btc ? that's like ^2. or 3.
Dec 14 21:52:31 <Namjies>	Was it you who sold 100k?
Dec 14 21:52:31 <Bugpowder>	most at 35000
Dec 14 21:52:33 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Dec 14 21:52:40 <Namjies>	Ah right.
Dec 14 21:52:47 <Bugpowder>	then some at 30000
Dec 14 21:52:54 <Bugpowder>	when he was 3 days late on divvy
Dec 14 21:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120000 @ 0.0006 = 72 BTC [-]
Dec 14 21:53:45 <Bugpowder>	Panic selling kept me solvent in the GLBSE era.
Dec 14 21:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 14 21:54:00 <Namjies>	I sent him a PM not to forget to pay dividends on the 9th and he paid out on the 9th.
Dec 14 21:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. im off for real. don't break anything!
Dec 14 21:54:15 <Bugpowder>	l8r
Dec 14 21:54:19 <Bugpowder>	need more coins'
Dec 14 21:54:20 <Namjies>	Not sure if because I took the time to remind him or not.
Dec 14 21:54:25 <Namjies>	Later, mircea
Dec 14 21:55:01 <Namjies>	Hmm, on GLBSE, panic selling was what I was NOT doing.
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Dec 14 21:55:14 <Namjies>	I actually had lowbal bids everywhere to catch panic sales.
Dec 14 21:56:35 <Bugpowder>	I need another 1000 coins
Dec 14 21:56:39 <Bugpowder>	for S.DICE
Dec 14 21:56:45 <Bugpowder>	mine faster!
Dec 14 21:57:49 <Bugpowder>	I just worry S.BVPS might disappear one day
Dec 14 21:57:56 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE really has their shit together
Dec 14 22:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059951 = 2.5905 BTC [-]
Dec 14 22:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1079 @ 0.00059945 = 0.6468 BTC [-]
Dec 14 22:01:20 <smickles>	;;gettrust Namjies
Dec 14 22:01:21 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user smickles to user Namjies: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 7 via 4 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=smickles&dest=Namjies
Dec 14 22:01:26 <smickles>	;;gettrust Bugpowder
Dec 14 22:01:27 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user smickles to user Bugpowder: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=smickles&dest=Bugpowder
Dec 14 22:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059991 = 2.5922 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:01:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 194575 @ 0.0006 = 116.745 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:02:05 <smickles>	Namjies: did you still need that loan?
Dec 14 22:02:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1470 @ 0.0034 = 4.998 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:02:54 <Namjies>	Bugpowder, pss, send those 1000 coins my way. I got a sure investment. 2 billion % a day. Quick, before that cop looks over here.
Dec 14 22:02:57 <Namjies>	¬_¬
Dec 14 22:02:58 *	Ukto puts Namjies up for a firesale :P
Dec 14 22:03:06 <Namjies>	⌐_⌐
Dec 14 22:03:39 <Bugpowder>	Who can even get me 1000 coins these days/
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Dec 14 22:03:51 <Bugpowder>	Does Tangible have any for sale?
Dec 14 22:03:52 <Ukto>	evoorhees :P
Dec 14 22:03:56 <Bugpowder>	lol
Dec 14 22:03:59 <Bugpowder>	for sure
Dec 14 22:04:06 <Namjies>	Smickles, my BTCJam loan expired, so yes.
Dec 14 22:04:18 <smickles>	Namjies: what rate were you looking for?
Dec 14 22:04:42 <Ukto>	Namjies: does that lower a users rating on there?
Dec 14 22:05:05 <Namjies>	2% before the 10th of January. Same as what I offered on BTC-BOND
Dec 14 22:05:19 <Namjies>	2% per month
Dec 14 22:05:54 <Namjies>	Bugpowder: MtGox?
Dec 14 22:06:01 <Bugpowder>	nah
Dec 14 22:06:15 <Namjies>	People keep complaining about weekend tanking. Do some good. Buy MtGox.
Dec 14 22:06:20 <Bugpowder>	I have had issues getting cash into gox from BAC
Dec 14 22:06:25 <Namjies>	Ah
Dec 14 22:06:33 <Bugpowder>	Tangible was the easiest
Dec 14 22:10:25 <Namjies>	And as usual, hearing my offered rate makes inquirers go silent.
Dec 14 22:12:06 <kakobrekla>	now you know what the market rate isnt.
Dec 14 22:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1470 @ 0.0034 = 4.998 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:12:43 <bonafide>	what's tanking this weekend?
Dec 14 22:13:21 <Namjies>	And the market can keep catering to emergency loaners who accept outrageous rates such as 5-10% a week.
Dec 14 22:14:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5500 @ 0.0034 = 18.7 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:14:40 <kakobrekla>	nothing is tanking
Dec 14 22:14:46 <kakobrekla>	everything is rising
Dec 14 22:15:10 <kakobrekla>	btw, i made ~6btc on that eurusd long bonafide, closed today
Dec 14 22:15:39 <bonafide>	nice
Dec 14 22:15:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00062979 = 2.6136 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:15:52 <bonafide>	next week will be nice for mostly everything pair with jpy
Dec 14 22:16:07 <bonafide>	they're voting to bump up inflation
Dec 14 22:16:19 <kakobrekla>	the bot is on 4 pairs now, one of them is cadjpy
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Dec 14 22:16:26 <kakobrekla>	we will see
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Dec 14 22:16:28 <bonafide>	cadjpy is a good one
Dec 14 22:16:31 <smickles>	Namjies: sorry, trying to work somthing out
Dec 14 22:16:50 <smickles>	also, your desired rate is blow what MPBOR is likely to pay
Dec 14 22:16:53 <bonafide>	AUD/USD is a good long unless US goes over the cliff
Dec 14 22:16:54 <smickles>	*below
Dec 14 22:17:07 <bonafide>	Aussies politicians dont meet in January I guess?
Dec 14 22:17:33 <Namjies>	How do you get MPBOR?
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Dec 14 22:18:01 <bonafide>	eur/usd may be bad in january tho
Dec 14 22:18:18 <bonafide>	I heard ECB is going to print money
Dec 14 22:18:20 <smickles>	Namjies: i can get you a good link, basically you send an email to mircea, then send the principal to the address
Dec 14 22:18:20 <kakobrekla>	why, its always noisy
Dec 14 22:18:23 <bonafide>	but then again the USD is too
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Dec 14 22:18:59 <smickles>	iirc, MPBOR has been paying about 4-6% monthly
Dec 14 22:19:15 <Namjies>	With losses/gains each month hmm?
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Dec 14 22:19:32 <Namjies>	I prefer my BitVPS for now.
Dec 14 22:19:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.0034 = 5.78 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 22:20:45 <smickles>	Namjies: there havn't been losses recently
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Dec 14 22:21:21 <Namjies>	Good thing.
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Dec 14 22:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063092 = 2.7262 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1458 @ 0.00063101 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:23:04 <kakobrekla>	well that didnt go well
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Dec 14 22:23:12 <Ukto>	?
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Dec 14 22:23:58 <kakobrekla>	what
Dec 14 22:24:23 <Ukto>	wut? u want apeice of me?
Dec 14 22:24:25 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 14 22:24:28 <Ukto>	go ahead
Dec 14 22:24:33 <Ukto>	apparently its a buffet
Dec 14 22:24:34 <bonafide>	bored tonight ;\
Dec 14 22:24:36 <Ukto>	>:P
Dec 14 22:25:04 <kakobrekla>	obvious you are new here Ukto
Dec 14 22:25:29 <Ukto>	im going to smack you :P
Dec 14 22:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10837 @ 0.00063101 = 6.8383 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:40:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41 @ 0.00063116 = 0.0259 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:43:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3559 @ 0.00063116 = 2.2463 BTC [+]
Dec 14 22:43:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20191 @ 0.00063116 = 12.7438 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 22:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00063003 = 3.2447 BTC [-]
Dec 14 23:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8575 @ 0.00063116 = 5.4122 BTC [+]
Dec 14 23:01:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00063121 = 11.2671 BTC [+]
Dec 14 23:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00063127 = 14.6455 BTC [+]
Dec 14 23:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 194 @ 0.00063167 = 0.1225 BTC [+]
Dec 14 23:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00063167 = 1.0738 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 23:26:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5059 @ 0.00063167 = 3.1956 BTC [+]
Dec 14 23:26:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13223 @ 0.00063272 = 8.3665 BTC [+]
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Dec 14 23:52:50 <thestringpuller>	mr smickles
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Dec 15 00:03:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00063003 = 2.7406 BTC [-]
Dec 15 00:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00063 = 2.4885 BTC [-]
Dec 15 00:07:26 <smickles>	thestringpuller: howdy
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Dec 15 00:17:47 <thestringpuller>	smickles: are you a coder?
Dec 15 00:18:08 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2012/12/15/firesteel-gobspark-armageddon/
Dec 15 00:20:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 371 @ 0.00063 = 0.2337 BTC [-]
Dec 15 00:20:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1829 @ 0.00062979 = 1.1519 BTC [-]
Dec 15 00:29:13 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i know some things
Dec 15 00:29:42 <smickles>	I consider myself amature, but i've been told what I have done is impressive by amatures
Dec 15 00:39:33 <thestringpuller>	smickles: do you know any basic linear algebra
Dec 15 00:39:36 <thestringpuller>	okay this is insane
Dec 15 00:39:59 <thestringpuller>	my clock on the server this IRC client is running on has 12:52 as the time
Dec 15 00:40:11 <thestringpuller>	And it's 12:40
Dec 15 00:40:20 <thestringpuller>	the clock keeps going ahead
Dec 15 00:40:55 <thestringpuller>	even when I reset it grrr
Dec 15 00:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3546 @ 0.00063245 = 2.2427 BTC [+]
Dec 15 00:47:11 <asa1024>	maybe you are IRC TIME TRAVELO
Dec 15 00:47:12 <asa1024>	
Dec 15 00:47:13 <asa1024>	
Dec 15 00:47:24 <asa1024>	irc time travel?
Dec 15 00:48:19 <thestringpuller>	haha
Dec 15 00:48:25 <thestringpuller>	is it 1AM for you?
Dec 15 00:48:30 <thestringpuller>	or of the hour
Dec 15 00:48:44 <thestringpuller>	(1AM for eastern timezone)
Dec 15 00:48:53 <thestringpuller>	maybe I'm 10 minutes in the future on IRC
Dec 15 00:51:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 775 @ 0.00063245 = 0.4901 BTC [+]
Dec 15 00:52:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8377 @ 0.00063272 = 5.3003 BTC [+]
Dec 15 00:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00063294 = 17.7223 BTC [+]
Dec 15 00:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14148 @ 0.00063361 = 8.9643 BTC [+]
Dec 15 00:59:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063038 = 2.7239 BTC [-]
Dec 15 00:59:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10329 @ 0.00063029 = 6.5103 BTC [-]
Dec 15 01:06:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006304 = 2.724 BTC [+]
Dec 15 01:06:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17171 @ 0.00063029 = 10.8227 BTC [-]
Dec 15 01:06:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9908 @ 0.00062979 = 6.24 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 01:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063309 = 2.7356 BTC [+]
Dec 15 01:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00063331 = 3.4515 BTC [+]
Dec 15 01:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7308 @ 0.00063361 = 4.6304 BTC [+]
Dec 15 01:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4271 @ 0.00063364 = 2.7063 BTC [+]
Dec 15 01:44:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063355 = 2.7376 BTC [-]
Dec 15 01:44:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2479 @ 0.00063364 = 1.5708 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 01:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10236 @ 0.00063364 = 6.4859 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 02:05:44 <thestringpuller>	;;calc cos 1
Dec 15 02:05:44 <gribble>	Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
Dec 15 02:05:49 <thestringpuller>	;;calc cos(1)
Dec 15 02:05:49 <gribble>	0.540302305868
Dec 15 02:05:54 <thestringpuller>	;;calc cos(pi/2)
Dec 15 02:05:54 <gribble>	0
Dec 15 02:06:03 <thestringpuller>	;;calc cos(pi)
Dec 15 02:06:04 <gribble>	-1
Dec 15 02:06:12 <thestringpuller>	;;calc cos(pi/4)
Dec 15 02:06:13 <gribble>	0.707106781187
Dec 15 02:06:22 <thestringpuller>	;;calc cos(pi/1.9)
Dec 15 02:06:22 <gribble>	-0.0825793454723
Dec 15 02:06:26 <thestringpuller>	ah ha
Dec 15 02:06:33 <thestringpuller>	thank you gribble
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Dec 15 02:11:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3164 @ 0.00063364 = 2.0048 BTC [+]
Dec 15 02:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11067 @ 0.00063377 = 7.0139 BTC [+]
Dec 15 02:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00063592 = 11.7009 BTC [+]
Dec 15 02:11:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17019 @ 0.00063598 = 10.8237 BTC [+]
Dec 15 02:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4931 @ 0.00063598 = 3.136 BTC [+]
Dec 15 02:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 519 @ 0.00063603 = 0.3301 BTC [+]
Dec 15 02:41:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063173 = 2.7297 BTC [-]
Dec 15 02:41:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9870 @ 0.00063156 = 6.2335 BTC [-]
Dec 15 02:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4656 @ 0.0034 = 15.8304 BTC [+]
Dec 15 03:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063177 = 2.7299 BTC [+]
Dec 15 03:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2229 @ 0.00063156 = 1.4077 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 03:05:34 <Chaang-Noi>	hi all, anyone have any experience with UPS shipping?
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Dec 15 03:06:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i shipped some one something using their account (like they asked) and then they refused to pay UPS...
Dec 15 03:06:08 <Chaang-Noi>	after accepting the goods.
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Dec 15 03:24:06 <pigeons>	then ups will take the owners of the account to collections, perhaps the owners will claim they didn't authorize you to use their account and attempt to get you in trouble
Dec 15 03:33:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00063344 = 1.8053 BTC [+]
Dec 15 03:33:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063439 = 2.7412 BTC [+]
Dec 15 03:33:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9929 @ 0.00063468 = 6.3017 BTC [+]
Dec 15 03:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063163 = 2.7293 BTC [-]
Dec 15 03:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2491 @ 0.00063156 = 1.5732 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 04:02:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00338595 = 4.4017 BTC [-]
Dec 15 04:04:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063448 = 2.7416 BTC [+]
Dec 15 04:04:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9171 @ 0.00063468 = 5.8207 BTC [+]
Dec 15 04:04:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00063603 = 0.0051 BTC [+]
Dec 15 04:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063577 = 2.7472 BTC [-]
Dec 15 04:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13505 @ 0.00063603 = 8.5896 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 04:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063186 = 2.7303 BTC [-]
Dec 15 04:16:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15497 @ 0.00063156 = 9.7873 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 04:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063159 = 2.7291 BTC [+]
Dec 15 04:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12479 @ 0.00063156 = 7.8812 BTC [-]
Dec 15 04:26:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12304 @ 0.00063156 = 7.7707 BTC [-]
Dec 15 04:26:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4246 @ 0.00062979 = 2.6741 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 04:37:15 <Garr255>	Cognitive and Synergy are going to have HUGE dividend and coupon payments in a few hours! pick up some shares https://btct.co/security/COGNITIVE
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Dec 15 04:53:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1078 @ 0.00062979 = 0.6789 BTC [-]
Dec 15 04:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00062976 = 8.7537 BTC [-]
Dec 15 04:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8622 @ 0.00062805 = 5.415 BTC [-]
Dec 15 05:06:34 <thestringpuller>	;;later mircea_popescu i think i may have a plan to implement the clearing house
Dec 15 05:06:34 <gribble>	Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "mircea_popescu" in it.  Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
Dec 15 05:06:48 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell
Dec 15 05:06:48 <gribble>	(later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
Dec 15 05:07:07 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell mircea_popescu i think i may have a plan to implement the clearing house
Dec 15 05:07:07 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 15 05:07:21 <thestringpuller>	smickles: ^- see directly above
Dec 15 05:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063582 = 2.7474 BTC [+]
Dec 15 05:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7273 @ 0.00063603 = 4.6258 BTC [+]
Dec 15 05:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4986 @ 0.00063691 = 3.1756 BTC [+]
Dec 15 05:38:36 <Ukto>	https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/ART -- voted up :)
Dec 15 05:38:44 <Ukto>	and it is accepted
Dec 15 05:39:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063662 = 2.7508 BTC [-]
Dec 15 05:39:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10736 @ 0.00063691 = 6.8379 BTC [+]
Dec 15 05:39:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33043 @ 0.00063743 = 21.0626 BTC [+]
Dec 15 05:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 92 @ 0.00337576 = 0.3106 BTC [-]
Dec 15 05:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1741 @ 0.0033462 = 5.8257 BTC [-]
Dec 15 05:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00333518 = 7.3374 BTC [-]
Dec 15 05:56:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1817 @ 0.0033341 = 6.0581 BTC [-]
Dec 15 06:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1664 @ 0.0033341 = 5.5479 BTC [-]
Dec 15 06:18:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062811 = 2.7141 BTC [-]
Dec 15 06:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3018 @ 0.00062805 = 1.8955 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 06:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063489 = 2.7434 BTC [+]
Dec 15 06:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.0006351 = 2.1593 BTC [+]
Dec 15 06:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3241 @ 0.00063743 = 2.0659 BTC [+]
Dec 15 06:26:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5938 @ 0.00063787 = 3.7877 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 06:30:25 <EskimoBob>	what's new?
Dec 15 06:31:11 <pigeons>	we've been all excited about ART
Dec 15 06:31:50 <EskimoBob>	excellent, this is so nice of ya'll :)
Dec 15 06:32:04 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: did you get the pkg?
Dec 15 06:32:32 <pigeons>	i'll have to check its my mom's address i'll ask her
Dec 15 06:43:24 <EskimoBob>	ART is listed and ready for buying
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Dec 15 07:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller lemme know.
Dec 15 07:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	hey pigeons, there's a half frozen hungry desperate dieing pigeon in my yard.
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Dec 15 07:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	think i should throw it some bread ?
Dec 15 07:18:12 <pigeons>	would you want bread? how about a juicy worm
Dec 15 07:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol da fuck ima find worms under 2 feet of snow
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Dec 15 07:48:13 <kakobrekla>	afaik bread is no good in winter for birds
Dec 15 07:48:50 <EskimoBob>	do not give them dark bread, it has too much salt and this will kill the poor bastards
Dec 15 07:49:17 <EskimoBob>	oat is good
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Dec 15 07:50:02 <EskimoBob>	strange, we have pigeons too but they do not freeze even when it's -40C
Dec 15 07:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpex-dedicated-domains/ <<
Dec 15 07:50:59 <EskimoBob>	your pigeons over there need winter coats :)
Dec 15 07:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob i was going to ask for a few bitcoins off pigeons to pay for it.
Dec 15 07:51:25 <EskimoBob>	get some thread and start knitting
Dec 15 07:54:01 <EskimoBob>	fluffy pink thread is probably nice for southern pigeons
Dec 15 07:55:08 <EskimoBob>	http://img.ymlp.com/stitchandbitchlondon_cooeylion.jpg
Dec 15 07:55:14 <EskimoBob>	blue looks good too
Dec 15 08:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062839 = 2.7153 BTC [-]
Dec 15 08:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13860 @ 0.00062805 = 8.7048 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 08:02:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.buywithbtc.com/this-week-mpex.html
Dec 15 08:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	that is pretty cute.
Dec 15 08:03:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00338595 = 6.4333 BTC [+]
Dec 15 08:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6923 @ 0.0034 = 23.5382 BTC [+]
Dec 15 08:05:01 <Bugpowder>	Cant the price go super high, all the calls get exercised, then the price crash.  Like in the Pirate crash month.
Dec 15 08:05:27 <Bugpowder>	MOAR S.DICE
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Dec 15 08:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	there's options on s.dice ?
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Dec 15 08:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3019 @ 0.00062686 = 1.8925 BTC [-]
Dec 15 08:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7831 @ 0.00063514 = 4.9738 BTC [+]
Dec 15 08:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063509 = 2.7442 BTC [-]
Dec 15 08:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12069 @ 0.00063514 = 7.6655 BTC [+]
Dec 15 08:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00063522 = 9.1472 BTC [+]
Dec 15 08:35:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5737 @ 0.00063547 = 3.6457 BTC [+]
Dec 15 08:35:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4651 @ 0.00063608 = 2.9584 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 08:57:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13357 @ 0.00063539 = 8.4869 BTC [-]
Dec 15 08:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11349 @ 0.00063608 = 7.2189 BTC [+]
Dec 15 08:59:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 951 @ 0.00063787 = 0.6066 BTC [+]
Dec 15 09:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0033353 = 6.6706 BTC [-]
Dec 15 09:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.0033341 = 5.668 BTC [-]
Dec 15 09:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 800 @ 0.16532973 = 132.2638 BTC [-]
Dec 15 09:21:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 900 @ 0.21548437 = 193.9359 BTC [-]
Dec 15 09:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19306 @ 0.00063539 = 12.2668 BTC [-]
Dec 15 09:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6911 @ 0.00063787 = 4.4083 BTC [+]
Dec 15 09:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3439 @ 0.00063789 = 2.1937 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 09:57:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063551 = 2.746 BTC [-]
Dec 15 09:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20387 @ 0.00063539 = 12.9537 BTC [-]
Dec 15 09:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1181 @ 0.00063096 = 0.7452 BTC [-]
Dec 15 10:04:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063115 = 2.7272 BTC [+]
Dec 15 10:04:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7579 @ 0.00063096 = 4.782 BTC [-]
Dec 15 10:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12694 @ 0.00063096 = 8.0094 BTC [-]
Dec 15 10:14:59 <EskimoBob>	can you guys add https://www.litecoinglobal.com/ and https://btct.co/ and https://bitfunder.com/ to assbots feed list?
Dec 15 10:15:08 <Diablo-D3>	yesplease
Dec 15 10:15:20 <Diablo-D3>	Im tired of seeing the mpoe and dice exchange.
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Dec 15 10:17:25 <kakobrekla>	they know where to find me, bug them.
Dec 15 10:17:53 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: DOOO EEEET
Dec 15 10:18:03 <kakobrekla>	barking at the wrong tree Diablo-D3
Dec 15 10:18:24 <Diablo-D3>	dude, I bark at all trees concurrently
Dec 15 10:18:32 <kakobrekla>	:)
Dec 15 10:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 15 10:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	iirc burnside was saying he'll get the twitter feed.
Dec 15 10:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	ukto too
Dec 15 10:19:29 <Diablo-D3>	fuck twitter feeds
Dec 15 10:19:32 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: send me your username at litecoinglobal and I can do the transfer
Dec 15 10:19:36 <Diablo-D3>	twitter is not a generic messaging protocol
Dec 15 10:19:46 <Diablo-D3>	just use fucking telnet
Dec 15 10:19:55 <EskimoBob>	twitter is for birds
Dec 15 10:20:08 <Diablo-D3>	angry ones?
Dec 15 10:20:10 <Ukto>	hey EskimoBob
Dec 15 10:20:21 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: Hi
Dec 15 10:20:28 <Ukto>	good luck with the sales! :)
Dec 15 10:20:40 <Ukto>	hope you guys get the equipment you need
Dec 15 10:20:47 <Ukto>	think it should work out
Dec 15 10:20:51 <Ukto>	I*
Dec 15 10:21:06 <EskimoBob>	I need that :) Sorry, for not going with your exchange. BTW; we can do a PT, if you like that idea
Dec 15 10:21:20 <Ukto>	dont be sorry
Dec 15 10:21:23 <Ukto>	it really isnt a competition
Dec 15 10:21:29 <Ukto>	and you are more than welcome to
Dec 15 10:21:36 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, I think we need more than one exchange
Dec 15 10:21:36 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: if we get this rolling, it will be awesome. There is no more "if" there is "when"
Dec 15 10:21:57 <Ukto>	As I was talking to deadterra bout his s.dice PT
Dec 15 10:22:12 <Ukto>	we both agreed that we should have at least 4~5 exchanges
Dec 15 10:22:20 <Ukto>	for when the next topples
Dec 15 10:22:30 <EskimoBob>	NOOOOOO!
Dec 15 10:22:31 <Ukto>	and exchanges should work together
Dec 15 10:22:38 <Ukto>	so issuers can be on all of them
Dec 15 10:22:40 <EskimoBob>	like a P2P
Dec 15 10:22:51 <Ukto>	p2p has its fault
Dec 15 10:22:53 <EskimoBob>	gone form one, shows up on next one
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Dec 15 10:23:02 <EskimoBob>	"like a P2p"
Dec 15 10:23:03 <Ukto>	i kinda want to use a version it as a backend for my system
Dec 15 10:23:07 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 15 10:23:15 <Ukto>	I am setting up my api
Dec 15 10:23:29 <Ukto>	where terra can easily and automatically transfer share for users between exchanges
Dec 15 10:23:35 <Ukto>	well
Dec 15 10:23:41 <EskimoBob>	exchanges need to afree on data exchange protocol and become each others backup
Dec 15 10:23:43 <Ukto>	at least in / out of bf
Dec 15 10:23:49 <EskimoBob>	agree*
Dec 15 10:24:22 <Ukto>	if the other exchanges go down, he can go by the last list he had.. which might be outdated somewhat
Dec 15 10:24:25 <EskimoBob>	trust issues? encryp the data
Dec 15 10:24:29 <Ukto>	same thing for BF
Dec 15 10:24:37 <Ukto>	except that someone else might have a newer version
Dec 15 10:24:41 <Ukto>	since its all public
Dec 15 10:25:03 <Ukto>	was debating doing a signed version of the asset list
Dec 15 10:25:05 <EskimoBob>	pushing trades to other exchanges can't be that hard or a resource hog
Dec 15 10:25:16 <Ukto>	its not a resource issue
Dec 15 10:25:20 <Ukto>	its a responsibility issue
Dec 15 10:25:25 <Ukto>	who is responsible
Dec 15 10:25:30 <kakobrekla>	nefario
Dec 15 10:25:33 <EskimoBob>	lol
Dec 15 10:25:36 <Ukto>	the excahnges dont want to be responsible for shares between the exchanges
Dec 15 10:25:37 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 15 10:25:44 <Ukto>	so that puts all the work onto the issuer
Dec 15 10:26:10 <Ukto>	kinda like how carnth did his gold deal
Dec 15 10:26:15 <Ukto>	between ltc-globla and btct
Dec 15 10:26:19 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu twitter is going out
Dec 15 10:26:22 <Ukto>	he lets ppl move teh stuff between em
Dec 15 10:26:26 <EskimoBob>	lets say we have 4 exchanges and they keep eachothers trade history and balances updates (encrypted) for each other
Dec 15 10:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	a, right.
Dec 15 10:26:42 <EskimoBob>	if one drops down, anyone can pick up and relist
Dec 15 10:26:52 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: yeah, i already spent the time to make twitter feed, even same format as glbse to make it weasy for kakobrekla, now he wont use it cause twatter will eventaulyl disco it
Dec 15 10:27:13 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: as long as you have up to the second latest copy of the data
Dec 15 10:27:21 <mircea_popescu>	oops.
Dec 15 10:27:28 <Ukto>	so its meh
Dec 15 10:27:36 <Ukto>	re: mirc
Dec 15 10:27:44 <Ukto>	crypto isnt doing any of it to my knowledge.. listing data
Dec 15 10:27:49 <Ukto>	privately to issuers or public
Dec 15 10:27:51 <kakobrekla>	accually it was mps idea to phase twitter out
Dec 15 10:27:51 <EskimoBob>	yes, but we are not talikng about 1000 trades a second here
Dec 15 10:27:58 <Ukto>	btct sends the issuer a list every X hours
Dec 15 10:28:05 <EskimoBob>	forget twitter,
Dec 15 10:28:30 <Ukto>	bitfunders list is live
Dec 15 10:28:37 <kakobrekla>	its eating trades even when you appy the microtime patch
Dec 15 10:28:37 <Ukto>	so as long as someone has a copy its within some reason
Dec 15 10:28:41 <EskimoBob>	ok, lets upgrade this backup idea
Dec 15 10:28:45 <kakobrekla>	apply
Dec 15 10:28:56 <Ukto>	i want to post trade data
Dec 15 10:28:59 <Ukto>	like the twatter deal
Dec 15 10:29:01 <Ukto>	with signed msgs
Dec 15 10:29:15 <Ukto>	so if somoene has a holdings from 10 min prior to a shutdown or some shit
Dec 15 10:29:18 <Ukto>	the can say look
Dec 15 10:29:20 <Ukto>	that was my trade
Dec 15 10:29:28 <Ukto>	its signed and proven
Dec 15 10:29:33 <Ukto>	i SHOULD have X shares
Dec 15 10:30:04 <EskimoBob>	you send out balances and trade data
Dec 15 10:30:10 <EskimoBob>	now, if you add
Dec 15 10:30:14 <Ukto>	thats alot of data heh
Dec 15 10:30:15 <Ukto>	to post
Dec 15 10:30:18 <Ukto>	every trade
Dec 15 10:30:26 <EskimoBob>	something to trade data (a key)
Dec 15 10:30:32 <Ukto>	the problem is you woudl have to show trade data between public addresses
Dec 15 10:30:35 <EskimoBob>	and now your exchange gets blown up
Dec 15 10:30:36 <Ukto>	then ppl can see trading history of users
Dec 15 10:30:40 <Ukto>	tha gets to be less anon
Dec 15 10:30:51 <EskimoBob>	the trades can me restored to the latest ping from your exchange
Dec 15 10:31:10 <Ukto>	wihle that is true
Dec 15 10:31:11 <EskimoBob>	messages can or actually have to be encrypted
Dec 15 10:31:25 <Ukto>	doesnt help the public
Dec 15 10:31:30 <Ukto>	if the priv key has been taken hostage
Dec 15 10:31:31 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 15 10:31:41 <EskimoBob>	every backup exchange has the key
Dec 15 10:31:55 <EskimoBob>	and account holders
Dec 15 10:32:06 <EskimoBob>	so you can see your own trades and prove those are yours
Dec 15 10:32:41 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 15 10:32:43 <Ukto>	theres a bit to consider.
Dec 15 10:32:48 <Ukto>	Right now
Dec 15 10:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	in any event more use of pgp can not hurt the new exchanges.
Dec 15 10:32:57 <Ukto>	I want to finish the core functionality extensions
Dec 15 10:33:04 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: agreed
Dec 15 10:33:20 <EskimoBob>	this is just a rough idea. You guys are smart enough and can make it into something that works
Dec 15 10:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	it's one point that's been gained through experience so far, gpg is good.
Dec 15 10:33:34 <Ukto>	I just updated the trading graph to have the volume panel.
Dec 15 10:33:44 <Ukto>	gonna add the depth chart a bit later today/tonight
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Dec 15 10:35:11 <Ukto>	still debating if I will bother with candle/ohlc.. since the open/close would be midnight.. it would just be showing day to day high/low and midnight price...
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Dec 15 10:35:50 <Ukto>	althgouh I will be enabling trend line drawing :P
Dec 15 10:36:04 <Ukto>	so ppl can draw a lot of lines aiming downwards over timer
Dec 15 10:36:06 <Ukto>	for most assets :P
Dec 15 10:36:33 <Ukto>	at least the mining ones
Dec 15 10:38:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.0006273 = 2.0074 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 10:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 120 @ 0.1534485 = 18.4138 BTC [-]
Dec 15 10:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.000625 = 4.875 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 10:46:31 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: add the price:return line. This will look soothingly straight, when price falls, and divs fall
Dec 15 10:47:33 <Ukto>	return? talking about the graph?
Dec 15 10:52:29 <EskimoBob>	yeah
Dec 15 10:52:57 <EskimoBob>	return - Mh/s
Dec 15 10:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-11/guest-post-five-minute-example-hft-shenanigans
Dec 15 10:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is quite the read.
Dec 15 10:57:06 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: and this is why all the fkn trading bots are no good
Dec 15 10:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	actually, this is why mpex doesn't allow instacancellation of orders :)
Dec 15 10:57:28 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: wow, I feel completely lost as to what you are talking about now. :P
Dec 15 10:57:36 <Ukto>	stock graphs.. Mh/s ?
Dec 15 10:58:02 <EskimoBob>	you misunderstood me Ukto
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Dec 15 10:58:35 <Ukto>	I think so too :P
Dec 15 10:58:42 <EskimoBob>	you see, miningbonds (the perpetual ones) usually lose value over time and so do the returns they pay
Dec 15 10:59:01 <EskimoBob>	I still call them "turds"
Dec 15 10:59:45 <EskimoBob>	mining contract charts will look ugly and depressing over time if diff keeps crawling up the hill
Dec 15 11:00:27 <EskimoBob>	so, if you add a line for contact price ratio to what Mh/s produced, you probably get a nice flat line
Dec 15 11:00:53 <EskimoBob>	delete that "ratio"
Dec 15 11:01:15 <EskimoBob>	actually
Dec 15 11:01:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4506 @ 0.0006273 = 2.8266 BTC [+]
Dec 15 11:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7944 @ 0.00062845 = 4.9924 BTC [+]
Dec 15 11:02:28 <EskimoBob>	adding a line for what "Mh/s" produces at any point in time, is not that bad. You get that from difficulty
Dec 15 11:03:16 <EskimoBob>	and this is actually "predicting" the mining contract share price
Dec 15 11:05:20 <Ukto>	when you say adding a line, a graph ?
Dec 15 11:09:40 <EskimoBob>	yes
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Dec 15 11:10:11 <EskimoBob>	for mining contracts, that pay N Mh/s as div
Dec 15 11:10:47 <Ukto>	woudl require a few more fields
Dec 15 11:10:50 <Ukto>	not all pay 100% pps
Dec 15 11:11:04 <Ukto>	i would then have to connect to a bitcoind or json from somewhere to get diff
Dec 15 11:11:12 <Ukto>	for each timeperiod
Dec 15 11:11:16 <Ukto>	not that it isnt doable
Dec 15 11:11:27 <Ukto>	just a bit of work to put it all together
Dec 15 11:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpex-and-the-hft-problem/ :D
Dec 15 11:11:35 <EskimoBob>	diff changes are not that frequent
Dec 15 11:11:44 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: you sure do have a lot of time on your hands :P
Dec 15 11:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	haha why you say ?
Dec 15 11:12:06 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: but when the graph is generated, live, it has to do a diff lookup for each payouts date/time
Dec 15 11:12:21 <Ukto>	all the blogs hehe
Dec 15 11:12:30 <EskimoBob>	cache it Ukto, it never changes
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Dec 15 11:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 15 11:13:00 <Ukto>	the graph will every time you add to it :P
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Dec 15 11:15:07 <EskimoBob>	yes, but your diff history...actually the result from the calculation of what 1 Mh/s can produce is cashed and can be used for every miningbond
Dec 15 11:15:17 <EskimoBob>	if it's a 5Mh/s, x5
Dec 15 11:15:36 <EskimoBob>	if it's a 1000 Mh/s then x 1000 and so on
Dec 15 11:16:02 <EskimoBob>	compared to trade data, this is like nothing
Dec 15 11:18:18 <Ukto>	as I said, its easily doable in a multitude of ways, I just want to think through the best way to do it. right now, I am still trying to focus on the core systems
Dec 15 11:18:35 <Ukto>	while playing with the graphs, I am working on the api system, and comprehensive documention for it
Dec 15 11:19:50 <EskimoBob>	sure, this is just "bells an whistles"
Dec 15 11:19:55 <Ukto>	yeah :)
Dec 15 11:19:58 <Ukto>	I liek the idea
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Dec 15 11:20:09 <Ukto>	I stuck it in my list already. :)
Dec 15 11:20:42 <EskimoBob>	let me dig around in old GLBSE thread. I had many ideas over there. :)
Dec 15 11:21:48 <Ukto>	sure :)
Dec 15 11:22:02 <Ukto>	en facte, one thing on my list
Dec 15 11:22:05 <Ukto>	is discussion boards
Dec 15 11:22:12 <Ukto>	a set of sub boards per asset
Dec 15 11:22:16 <Ukto>	as well as some for the site itself
Dec 15 11:29:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21201 @ 0.000625 = 13.2506 BTC [-]
Dec 15 11:29:55 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: here is one that just popped to my head - large block trades that can be executed outside/inside best bid/ask
Dec 15 11:30:06 <Ukto>	dark orders?
Dec 15 11:30:22 <EskimoBob>	nothing "dark" about them :)
Dec 15 11:30:45 <Ukto>	well.. if they are not dark, then bots will change the price :P
Dec 15 11:30:46 <EskimoBob>	just less panic and hysteria
Dec 15 11:31:09 <EskimoBob>	large block trades that can be executed ___outside/inside___ best bid/ask
Dec 15 11:31:28 <EskimoBob>	never really listed in order book but show up in trades
Dec 15 11:31:42 <Ukto>	hmm
Dec 15 11:31:58 <Ukto>	so how would it work. you pull up the asset page, see the order book and the best bid/ask
Dec 15 11:32:07 <Ukto>	want to do.. 1,000 shares
Dec 15 11:32:14 <Ukto>	and the best ask is say 1btc
Dec 15 11:32:16 <Ukto>	to make this easy
Dec 15 11:32:21 <Ukto>	what happens next. :)
Dec 15 11:32:43 <EskimoBob>	Lets say good people at EMIF.LTC-TRADING or LITECOINRS-PT come to me an say - lets do 20K shares trade at price X
Dec 15 11:33:19 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: large blocks are off the orderbook usually and agreed on the side
Dec 15 11:34:04 <Ukto>	so it would be a "direct trade"
Dec 15 11:34:04 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 15 11:34:24 <Ukto>	not neccesarily in large blocks
Dec 15 11:34:25 <EskimoBob>	yes and now... depends what you mean by that
Dec 15 11:34:30 <EskimoBob>	no
Dec 15 11:34:42 <EskimoBob>	you need to set min limit for those.
Dec 15 11:34:48 <Ukto>	I am already planning to be able to send X shares to Y person for Z price
Dec 15 11:34:59 <EskimoBob>	lets say 100 BTC or something
Dec 15 11:35:31 <EskimoBob>	sure, you can use that
Dec 15 11:35:37 <Ukto>	with my direct trades, it would be doable at any amount, it just wont show on teh trade history
Dec 15 11:36:23 <Ukto>	showing it on trade history would leave a giant opening for abuse
Dec 15 11:37:06 <Ukto>	like to forcefully raise or lower the traded price i think
Dec 15 11:38:07 <Ukto>	i am kind of confused by ltc-global's "internal asset transfer"
Dec 15 11:38:13 <Ukto>	it has a value/share field
Dec 15 11:38:27 <Ukto>	not sure if you can trade for a price directly..
Dec 15 11:38:29 <Ukto>	or what that fields for
Dec 15 11:46:42 <Diablo-D3>	meh I feel like shit today
Dec 15 11:48:25 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: what happend to mpex.us?
Dec 15 11:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	mm
Dec 15 11:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	did the dns get frazzled ?
Dec 15 11:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB it was unrouted. fixed.
Dec 15 11:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	(may take a little to propagate)
Dec 15 11:50:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.000625 = 4.625 BTC [-]
Dec 15 11:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise see http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpex-dedicated-domains/
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Dec 15 12:07:31 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: yup, works again :)
Dec 15 12:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	ty for pointing out :)
Dec 15 12:08:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5456 @ 0.00062845 = 3.4288 BTC [+]
Dec 15 12:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6292 @ 0.00063176 = 3.975 BTC [+]
Dec 15 12:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1952 @ 0.00063789 = 1.2452 BTC [+]
Dec 15 12:08:23 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: i know, was reading backlog, noticed that post and was wondering if .us still redirects or points to mpex directly like the other domains
Dec 15 12:08:35 <FabianB>	so i tried and noticed it not working
Dec 15 12:08:38 <FabianB>	np
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Dec 15 12:16:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063788 = 2.7563 BTC [-]
Dec 15 12:16:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29 @ 0.00063789 = 0.0185 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 12:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2369 @ 0.00062506 = 1.4808 BTC [-]
Dec 15 12:26:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: did you get my message
Dec 15 12:27:31 <Ukto>	you dont hear about school shootings in israel.. just saying... http://i.imgur.com/Ts1So.jpg
Dec 15 12:27:32 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 15 12:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1952 @ 0.00062506 = 1.2201 BTC [-]
Dec 15 12:30:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29198 @ 0.000625 = 18.2488 BTC [-]
Dec 15 12:32:02 <thestringpuller>	mpex!
Dec 15 12:32:30 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smicklea
Dec 15 12:32:30 <gribble>	I have not seen smicklea.
Dec 15 12:32:32 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smicklea
Dec 15 12:32:33 <gribble>	I have not seen smicklea.
Dec 15 12:32:36 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 15 12:32:36 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 2 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <smickles> I consider myself amature, but i've been told what I have done is impressive by amatures
Dec 15 12:34:22 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller yea, lemme hear.
Dec 15 12:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	wait. smickles considers himself a mature ?! as in, old pornstar ?!
Dec 15 12:36:56 <thestringpuller>	what if the personor entity acting as the clearing house had, access to the physical asset via normal channels, fiat on hand to pay for said asset, and btc's on hand. in theory couldn't he sign a pgp contract granting ownership to future holders upon settlement?
Dec 15 12:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	absolutely.
Dec 15 12:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	that's exactly how this works.
Dec 15 12:38:38 <thestringpuller>	so like mbor (i forget initial for bonds) you could have multiple clearing house entities to deliver physical assets traded on mpex
Dec 15 12:39:23 <thestringpuller>	as you have mutiple bond holders who help settle optiond
Dec 15 12:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	mpbor. and yes.
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Dec 15 12:39:30 <thestringpuller>	options*
Dec 15 12:39:46 <thestringpuller>	so are you in talks to get said clearing houses set up?
Dec 15 12:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Dec 15 12:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	most people who'd be competent enough to do it either don't want it because it'd likely be low volume to start or legal concerns
Dec 15 12:41:20 <thestringpuller>	i would do it with cocoa
Dec 15 12:42:12 <thestringpuller>	youd likely need one house per commodity
Dec 15 12:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	but do you have a cocoa warehouse ?!
Dec 15 12:43:14 <thestringpuller>	im good friends with a cocoa distributor and I own a warehouse so its possible
Dec 15 12:43:43 <mircea_popescu>	this'd be wonderful.
Dec 15 12:43:50 <thestringpuller>	however i wouldnt want to have a paper trail between fiat and btc in the us after the glbse fiasco
Dec 15 12:43:55 <mircea_popescu>	where ?
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Dec 15 12:46:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.000625 = 9 BTC [-]
Dec 15 12:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder there's an important point to consider in the discussion of X.IDIFF margins as the quarters roll by which we skipped over last time.
Dec 15 12:46:56 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 15 12:47:24 <thestringpuller>	now that i think of it, it wouldn't really matter. if the cocoa comes staright from the distributor, then there is no reason to use am exchange except for pricing
Dec 15 12:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder if you deposit 2.3btc today for the SEP and then as MAR rolls by the diff actually went way up like 9x, the new collateral is just 3x, but 3x the NEW price, which is 9x.
Dec 15 12:47:49 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 15 12:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder so it washes out.
Dec 15 12:47:57 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 15 12:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller well, where'd it be distributed ?
Dec 15 12:49:40 <thestringpuller>	the us, but delivery to end user could originate from anywhere
Dec 15 12:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	no, what i mean is. suppose X has 500 contracts to take delivery on
Dec 15 12:50:06 <mircea_popescu>	where does he pick up his cocoa ?
Dec 15 12:50:29 <thestringpuller>	he gives an address and it shows up at his door
Dec 15 12:50:58 <thestringpuller>	or he is selling it to the coffee shop and he gives that address
Dec 15 12:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	what, CIF any destination ?!
Dec 15 12:51:53 <mircea_popescu>	or more like DAT ? you don't clear customs/taxes do you
Dec 15 12:52:06 <Diablo-D3>	what are we doing now?
Dec 15 12:52:41 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: one moment i am on a phone lemme change olatforms
Dec 15 12:52:43 <thestringpuller>	brb
Dec 15 12:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	no rush.
Dec 15 12:55:57 <EskimoBob>	mmm... no idea. Trading cocoa beans?
Dec 15 12:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	im not even sure, he might have meant processed
Dec 15 12:58:24 <thestringpuller>	I was typing from a phone, now I'm tethered in.
Dec 15 12:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	so. your delivery model is something like what exactly ? CIF ? DAT ? DAP (FIS) ?
Dec 15 13:01:03 <thestringpuller>	DAT would be directly from distributor to clinet correcnt?
Dec 15 13:01:05 <thestringpuller>	corret*
Dec 15 13:01:15 <thestringpuller>	ugh my typing is awful today
Dec 15 13:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	dat is delivered to terminal
Dec 15 13:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	"Seller pays for carriage to the terminal, except for costs related to import clearance, and assumes all risks up to the point that the goods are unloaded at the terminal."
Dec 15 13:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	FIS is the ancient "free in store", buyer pays custom duty if any.
Dec 15 13:02:19 <thestringpuller>	CIF is more comprehensive
Dec 15 13:02:36 *	Ukto doesnt comprehend. :P
Dec 15 13:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	CIF is Cost, Insurance and Freight to named port.
Dec 15 13:03:00 <thestringpuller>	yes so it's on the seller
Dec 15 13:03:03 <thestringpuller>	as well
Dec 15 13:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Dec 15 13:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	but incidentally, what exact cocoa is this ? bean ? processed ? powder ? what specs ?
Dec 15 13:03:46 <thestringpuller>	bean, less legality issues in most countries
Dec 15 13:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	aha.
Dec 15 13:04:48 <thestringpuller>	i can get beans straight from the farms, as long as I have contracts to sell them against, ergo the clearing house
Dec 15 13:04:58 <EskimoBob>	cocoa beans taste... umm... interesting
Dec 15 13:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8001 @ 0.000625 = 5.0006 BTC [-]
Dec 15 13:05:14 <thestringpuller>	yes you drink their nectar everyday
Dec 15 13:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00062473 = 6.0286 BTC [-]
Dec 15 13:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1499 @ 0.00062432 = 0.9359 BTC [-]
Dec 15 13:05:23 <thestringpuller>	unless you don't drink coffee
Dec 15 13:05:26 <EskimoBob>	do I ?
Dec 15 13:05:42 <EskimoBob>	I do not drink coffee every day
Dec 15 13:05:58 <pigeons>	i drink it all day every day
Dec 15 13:06:06 <EskimoBob>	why?
Dec 15 13:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller well this is certainly interesting. what fee would you need for delivery and what min/max volumes ?
Dec 15 13:07:05 <EskimoBob>	for me, coffee is like a dessert
Dec 15 13:07:50 <thestringpuller>	ideally mircea_popescu my vision was that of buyer X has some Y number of contracts on cocoa, I would need to know his "end game" as where he wants the cocoa to end up, is it part of a portfolio or would he be "sub-distributing" to say coffee shops or a bean roaster
Dec 15 13:09:01 <thestringpuller>	if he just wants to pick up said asset, and store it in his house from port or whatever delivery terminal that can be arranged, but given we're dealing with the internet (this person could be any place on earth), then there has to be some kind of shipping network
Dec 15 13:09:46 <thestringpuller>	mainly all I need is a good delivery egineer, the fee would depend on volume
Dec 15 13:10:12 <mircea_popescu>	well this normally works the following way :
Dec 15 13:10:30 <thestringpuller>	well ISYS/logistics engineer like those guys who yell at the warehouse packers to make sure UPS is "moving at the speed of business"
Dec 15 13:10:36 <mircea_popescu>	1. upon settlement date all held contracts are to be delivered, mpex prepares list of fingerprints and amounts, signs the list and sends it to you.
Dec 15 13:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	2. people on the list send you signed messages stating disposition of their cocoa
Dec 15 13:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	3. you execute within a fixed timeframe, possibly for a fee.
Dec 15 13:11:15 <thestringpuller>	2 is the most important part
Dec 15 13:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Dec 15 13:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	well, if beneficiary fails to state you don't deliver.
Dec 15 13:12:01 <thestringpuller>	if XYZ live in Asia, Australia and Europe respectively
Dec 15 13:12:21 <EskimoBob>	this is good stuff: http://bitbrew.net/peruvian-pick-me-up/
Dec 15 13:12:24 <thestringpuller>	There could be a logistics nightmere
Dec 15 13:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Dec 15 13:13:06 <thestringpuller>	if all contracts are coming from a geographic convergence point (close to the same area) rather than a divergent one, the cost is significantly lower
Dec 15 13:13:26 <thestringpuller>	especially with the general volume we are discussing
Dec 15 13:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	we're not discussing any volume yet, haven't gotten to that
Dec 15 13:13:45 <thestringpuller>	for instance if this were barrels of oil and not crates of cocoa
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Dec 15 13:15:52 <thestringpuller>	i have a question about 1: upon the settlement date, the clearing house would immediately purchase said physical assets immediately (whatever total volume dependent on the list from 1 and 2), from money on hand, however would mpex reimburse them (in btc that is)
Dec 15 13:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	nono, you as the settler get the contracts.
Dec 15 13:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	you sell them for as much as you want
Dec 15 13:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	when the time comes, everything outstanding you deliver.
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Dec 15 13:17:33 <thestringpuller>	i thought the settler and buyer were usually the same or am I confused?
Dec 15 13:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	i think we take this to pm
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Dec 15 13:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00336465 = 10.094 BTC [+]
Dec 15 13:23:05 <rbenzaquen>	mircea_popescu: Hi , Is there any place that help me to understand how can I start working with mpex.co?
Dec 15 13:23:23 <mircea_popescu>	rbenzaquen this place works. what's the problem ?
Dec 15 13:24:18 <rbenzaquen>	mircea_popescu: Thanks, I have installed gpg in my linux box, do I need to generate a pub key?
Dec 15 13:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	yes, you generate a public/private keypair. one second
Dec 15 13:24:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.madboa.com/geek/gpg-quickstart/ see that.
Dec 15 13:25:57 <rbenzaquen>	mircea_popescu: great, I'll do that now. something I don't understand, how you co-relate your gpg public key with BTC public key?
Dec 15 13:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean by "BTC public key" ?
Dec 15 13:26:46 <rbenzaquen>	mircea_popescu: If I want to make an order, how do I pay it?
Dec 15 13:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	there's a special DEPOSIT order which tells you a sum
Dec 15 13:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	you send that sum to exchange address
Dec 15 13:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	say you want to deposit 100 btc. it says "deposit 100.48973984 BTC"
Dec 15 13:27:33 <mircea_popescu>	you do and that's it.
Dec 15 13:28:08 <rbenzaquen>	ok, So , I'll start creating my gpg pub key. and start playing, thanks very much for your help!!
Dec 15 13:28:20 <rbenzaquen>	I'll look fwd to learn and start operating.
Dec 15 13:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	no problem
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Dec 15 13:53:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1751 @ 0.00062432 = 1.0932 BTC [-]
Dec 15 13:53:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5512 @ 0.00062381 = 3.4384 BTC [-]
Dec 15 13:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10537 @ 0.00062344 = 6.5692 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 14:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6863 @ 0.00062344 = 4.2787 BTC [-]
Dec 15 14:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12837 @ 0.00062254 = 7.9915 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 14:25:28 <rbenzaquen>	mircea_popescu: can I ask you one more question?
Dec 15 14:26:46 <mircea_popescu>	surely.
Dec 15 14:27:26 <rbenzaquen>	./mpex.py STAT
Dec 15 14:27:26 <rbenzaquen>	Enter your GPG passphrase:
Dec 15 14:27:26 <rbenzaquen>	!!!WARNING!!!
Dec 15 14:27:28 <rbenzaquen>	Invalid Signature, do not trust this data.
Dec 15 14:27:30 <rbenzaquen>	Couldn't decode the reply from MPEx, perhaps you didn't sign the key? try running
Dec 15 14:27:32 <rbenzaquen>	gpg --sign-key F1B69921
Dec 15 14:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Dec 15 14:28:16 <rbenzaquen>	I already signed the key.
Dec 15 14:28:37 <rbenzaquen>	I did not send 30BTC, I don't know to where.
Dec 15 14:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7596 @ 0.00062254 = 4.7288 BTC [-]
Dec 15 14:29:04 <EskimoBob>	so, who is going to do the PT for ART? :)
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Dec 15 14:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	rbenzaquen well if you signed the key it should be ok.
Dec 15 14:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	and you go DEPOSIT|50 for instance
Dec 15 14:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	and it tells you where to send and how much.
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Dec 15 14:32:15 <EskimoBob>	rbenzaquen: there are "brokers" who can execute your trades for you, so you do not have to cough up the excessive account sign up fees :)
Dec 15 14:33:06 <rbenzaquen>	I don't care about the fees.
Dec 15 14:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00063069 = 2.0182 BTC [+]
Dec 15 14:34:31 <Namjies>	mircea_popescu: fancy. I say the change.
Dec 15 14:35:11 <mircea_popescu>	hehe cool
Dec 15 14:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00336465 = 2.5235 BTC [+]
Dec 15 14:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.0034 = 4.93 BTC [+]
Dec 15 14:38:32 <Namjies>	saw*
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Dec 15 14:57:07 <smickles>	;;ticker
Dec 15 14:57:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.55000, Best ask: 13.59990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04990, Last trade: 13.55001, 24 hour volume: 22995.40107950, 24 hour low: 13.05001, 24 hour high: 13.62989, 24 hour vwap: 13.48703
Dec 15 14:58:36 <smickles>	thestringpuller: do I know any basic linear algerbra? I should think so
Dec 15 15:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00062343 = 7.8552 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:00:24 <smickles>	so a clearing house... it basically holds stuff and keeps a record of who owns it and makes it easy to transfer ownership of the things?
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Dec 15 15:12:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13925 @ 0.00062343 = 8.6813 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:12:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6896 @ 0.00062254 = 4.293 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:12:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00062182 = 1.71 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:12:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00061952 = 3.2704 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:12:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50 @ 0.00061934 = 0.031 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:13:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00061934 = 3.9947 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00061907 = 3.3739 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:18:01 <smickles>	so the icbit situation speaks directly to the need for a btc clearinghouse
Dec 15 15:19:08 <smickles>	this summs it up: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1402129#msg1402129
Dec 15 15:20:39 <kakobrekla>	lol
Dec 15 15:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	"o no, we are not bucket shop mpoe-pr speaks lies!1!11!"
Dec 15 15:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	two weeks later...
Dec 15 15:21:37 <smickles>	< smickles> so a clearing house... it basically holds stuff and keeps a record of who owns it and makes it easy  to transfer ownership of the things? <<< i'll add requiring collateral to this
Dec 15 15:22:07 <kakobrekla>	they should close the shop
Dec 15 15:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	they should pay out THEN close the shop.
Dec 15 15:22:24 <kakobrekla>	yeah ofc.
Dec 15 15:22:45 <mircea_popescu>	"mysterious manipulator" my foot.
Dec 15 15:23:49 <smickles>	it's certainly plauseable that they were trying to pop the longs
Dec 15 15:24:44 <mircea_popescu>	Nov 17 19:58:23 <_Fireball>	so, would you be a man and write an apology?
Dec 15 15:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	one of the reasons i love irc is the logs.
Dec 15 15:25:08 <mircea_popescu>	Nov 17 19:57:25 <_Fireball>	honestly, by reading your blog post, I  see that you have little idea how futures exchanges work
Dec 15 15:25:09 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
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Dec 15 15:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00061907 = 2.3525 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:32:00 <kakobrekla>	perhaps this wors out cheaper than your gals mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130989.0
Dec 15 15:32:12 <kakobrekla>	you could see lots of youtube
Dec 15 15:32:16 <kakobrekla>	er read.
Dec 15 15:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 15 15:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	TRANSCRIBE ALL THE YOUTUBES!!1
Dec 15 15:32:39 <kakobrekla>	ya
Dec 15 15:32:50 <kakobrekla>	everything that is posted here at least
Dec 15 15:33:17 <mircea_popescu>	actually...
Dec 15 15:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	wait. waitwait.
Dec 15 15:37:04 <mircea_popescu>	clipse guy's name was actually ROELOFSE ?!
Dec 15 15:37:30 <kakobrekla>	whats that a crashed ROFLCOPTER?
Dec 15 15:38:24 <mod6>	lmaoplane
Dec 15 15:39:27 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125376.msg1402168#msg1402168 mircea_popescu <<
Dec 15 15:40:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 15 15:41:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00061907 = 9.348 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00061876 = 6.5589 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:44:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00061876 = 0.4331 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:44:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00061823 = 6.5532 BTC [-]
Dec 15 15:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	sooo, rg just announced in a private channel that bvps is undergoing a merger/sale/something.
Dec 15 15:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	announcements imminent he says.
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Dec 15 15:48:32 <Namjies>	me, arij and phungus will probably take over BitVPS. He just disclosed the 3 of us in OTC.
Dec 15 15:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	aha cool.
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Dec 15 15:49:08 <Namjies>	How the remaining shares will be shared and how BitVPS will be managed is not known for now.
Dec 15 15:49:09 <kakobrekla>	thats a twist.
Dec 15 15:49:26 <Namjies>	We're sorting this out.
Dec 15 15:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies so you plan on delisting it ? or do a sort of m/a thing ?
Dec 15 15:51:37 <Namjies>	It would remain as is for MPEx.
Dec 15 15:51:52 <rg>	one of my sale stipulations
Dec 15 15:51:54 <Namjies>	Profits split on 1 million shares.
Dec 15 15:51:56 <rg>	is that everything stays the way it was
Dec 15 15:52:14 <rg>	just better
Dec 15 15:52:14 <rg>	:P
Dec 15 15:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	aha. and you continue ops at current facilities ?
Dec 15 15:52:40 <rg>	well
Dec 15 15:52:41 <rg>	i wont be doing shit
Dec 15 15:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	not you, them lol
Dec 15 15:52:50 <rg>	except for the fact that i work for one of the companies that hosts a bitvps server
Dec 15 15:53:00 <rg>	i will be in the shadows
Dec 15 15:53:03 <rg>	offering them hardware for cheap
Dec 15 15:53:13 <mircea_popescu>	be in the shadows, fucking their routing :D
Dec 15 15:53:18 <rg>	hehe
Dec 15 15:53:18 <rg>	well
Dec 15 15:53:22 <rg>	its quite funny how i got this job
Dec 15 15:53:30 <rg>	i used to get into it wit hthier support all the time
Dec 15 15:53:32 <rg>	for being morons
Dec 15 15:53:35 <rg>	one day, boss contacts me
Dec 15 15:53:42 <rg>	'hey. you're smart. will you work for us?'
Dec 15 15:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	"all my morons quit on me. wanna become one ? "
Dec 15 15:53:52 <rg>	rg: 'sure'
Dec 15 15:54:02 <rg>	mircea: i started as a level 1 tech
Dec 15 15:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	ew
Dec 15 15:54:14 <rg>	i am now support manager and a lead on the operations team
Dec 15 15:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	hey.
Dec 15 15:54:26 <Namjies>	After how much time?
Dec 15 15:54:27 <rg>	i accomplished this in less than 2 months.
Dec 15 15:54:36 <Namjies>	=P
Dec 15 15:54:43 <rg>	and i love my new company
Dec 15 15:54:45 <kakobrekla>	in 2 months fire the boss
Dec 15 15:54:47 <rg>	and they love/need me
Dec 15 15:54:48 <mircea_popescu>	step 1. become support manager + lead ops. step 2. ???. step 3. linode hacked.
Dec 15 15:55:06 <Namjies>	Oh, that's what happened...
Dec 15 15:55:28 <mod6>	haha
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Dec 15 15:59:54 <EskimoBob>	what? BitVPS is going under?
Dec 15 16:00:45 <Diablo-D3>	ha ha
Dec 15 16:00:51 <Diablo-D3>	fucking rg scammed everyone
Dec 15 16:01:49 <mod6>	no one got scammed. cool your jets.
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Dec 15 16:03:15 <Diablo-D3>	too late
Dec 15 16:03:17 <Diablo-D3>	rg scammed
Dec 15 16:03:31 <Diablo-D3>	cant put that geanie back in the bottle
Dec 15 16:03:41 *	Diablo-D3 swaps that g out with a j
Dec 15 16:03:48 <rg>	lol
Dec 15 16:03:50 <mod6>	?!?
Dec 15 16:03:56 <rg>	shutup diablo
Dec 15 16:04:04 <rg>	youre just mad cause i replaced your boyfriend at rapidxen
Dec 15 16:04:46 <Diablo-D3>	YES RG, I AM TOTALLY HAVING LOTS OF SEX WITH NENOLOD _ALL THE TIME_
Dec 15 16:05:03 <Diablo-D3>	SERIOUSLY, WE'RE HALF WAY THROUGH THAT 55 GALLON DRUM OF LUBE WE GOT OFF AMAZON
Dec 15 16:05:18 *	mod6 checks mpex for lube futures
Dec 15 16:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1232 @ 0.00063069 = 0.777 BTC [+]
Dec 15 16:06:15 *	rg goes through diablo's old VPS
Dec 15 16:06:40 <Diablo-D3>	ha ha jokes on you, steve would have to pay millions if you did that
Dec 15 16:06:54 <Diablo-D3>	and by millions, I mean he'd just beat you with a pipe until you stop moving
Dec 15 16:06:55 <rg>	yeh steve is crazy about legal stuff
Dec 15 16:06:56 <rg>	i dont blame him
Dec 15 16:07:08 <rg>	if anyone mentions legalities in a ticket
Dec 15 16:07:13 <rg>	i have to immediately hand it over to him
Dec 15 16:07:14 <Diablo-D3>	well, I think nenolod scared him
Dec 15 16:07:33 <rg>	one guy threatend to sue us cause i didnt answer his ticket within an hour
Dec 15 16:07:39 <rg>	i basically told him to go fuck himself
Dec 15 16:07:44 <rg>	only to find out later that it was a HUGE mistake
Dec 15 16:07:49 <rg>	and i shouldve jst handed over the ticket
Dec 15 16:07:55 <Diablo-D3>	yeah dude, when someone says sue you have to say go fuck yourself on legal letterhead
Dec 15 16:07:55 <rg>	even if theres no real case,i still have to hand it over
Dec 15 16:08:01 <rg>	basically
Dec 15 16:08:03 <rg>	youre 100% right
Dec 15 16:08:10 <Diablo-D3>	preferably, one of those law firms that have like four names
Dec 15 16:08:21 <rg>	i wouldnt wanna fuck with enzu's lawyers
Dec 15 16:08:25 <Diablo-D3>	(the more names on the firm, the more they bill you for. true story.)
Dec 15 16:08:26 <rg>	theyre jews
Dec 15 16:08:41 <rg>	and i can tell you their retainer fee is ridic
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Dec 15 16:08:47 <Diablo-D3>	rg: well yeah
Dec 15 16:08:53 <Diablo-D3>	its a standard corp lawyer firm
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Dec 15 16:09:13 <Diablo-D3>	if steve told me he writes a million dollar check to them every year I wouldnt even bat an eye
Dec 15 16:10:36 <EskimoBob>	so, if you guys are done circle jerking over a 4 name law firm, tell wtf is going on with BitVPS?
Dec 15 16:10:48 <Diablo-D3>	oh, rg is just scamming his shareholders
Dec 15 16:11:17 <EskimoBob>	OK, nothing new here... I guess
Dec 15 16:11:23 <Diablo-D3>	see, it works like this
Dec 15 16:11:58 <EskimoBob>	fuck, the sale of those damn PT's took too fkn long (getting the list etc).
Dec 15 16:11:59 <Diablo-D3>	< does company have shares? > -> yes -> < does company accept bitcoin? > -> yes -> ( SCAM! )
Dec 15 16:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11018 @ 0.00063069 = 6.9489 BTC [+]
Dec 15 16:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2682 @ 0.00063596 = 1.7056 BTC [+]
Dec 15 16:13:57 <EskimoBob>	I asked about few weeks ago, is BitVPS going under and some cunt here was assuring me, that everything is fine blaa blaa blaa
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Dec 15 16:14:21 <rg>	EskimoBob: well
Dec 15 16:14:23 <rg>	its not going under
Dec 15 16:14:27 <rg>	hence the new owners
Dec 15 16:14:39 <rg>	if i continued to half ass it, yes, it would go under
Dec 15 16:14:43 <rg>	but im stopping that before it happens
Dec 15 16:14:45 <EskimoBob>	will they honour the old shares/contracts?
Dec 15 16:14:45 <Diablo-D3>	oh fuck
Dec 15 16:14:47 <Diablo-D3>	NEW MANAGEMENT
Dec 15 16:14:50 <rg>	EskimoBob: yes
Dec 15 16:14:54 <rg>	thats one of my contract stipulations
Dec 15 16:14:55 <Diablo-D3>	RUN FOR THE HIIIIIiiiiIIiiIIIiiIIiiIILLLLS
Dec 15 16:15:01 <Diablo-D3>	RUN FOR YOUR LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE
Dec 15 16:15:08 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: cool it for second
Dec 15 16:15:10 <rg>	The following stipulations will be imposed on this deal:
Dec 15 16:15:10 <rg>	1. Customers will not be moved
Dec 15 16:15:11 <rg>	2. Nothing will change for customers except better service.
Dec 15 16:15:11 <rg>	3. arij/someone buys the automated VPS software (something like $50/mo)
Dec 15 16:15:14 <EskimoBob>	grownups are talking
Dec 15 16:15:17 <Diablo-D3>	my singing isnt that bad :<
Dec 15 16:16:16 <EskimoBob>	if I can selle my few PT shares back, I am happy. After that, you guys can do what ever you want :)
Dec 15 16:16:29 <rg>	you can do whatever you want
Dec 15 16:16:35 <rg>	the only thing thats changing is now bitvps will have a proper staff
Dec 15 16:16:49 <Diablo-D3>	rg: whos the new management?
Dec 15 16:17:01 <EskimoBob>	sounds like good news... so lets see
Dec 15 16:17:14 <rg>	Diablo-D3: i have selected Namjies (BTC-Mining), arij and phungus
Dec 15 16:17:17 <Diablo-D3>	brb
Dec 15 16:17:24 <rg>	phungus has 18 years of linux admin under his belt
Dec 15 16:17:24 <Diablo-D3>	rg: ahh
Dec 15 16:17:26 <Diablo-D3>	that might not be so bad
Dec 15 16:17:29 <rg>	and BTC-Mining is well.. the man
Dec 15 16:17:39 <rg>	and arij is a good guy
Dec 15 16:17:42 <rg>	trust worthy
Dec 15 16:17:47 <rg>	i really dont think it will be bad
Dec 15 16:17:50 <Diablo-D3>	namjies is trustworthy
Dec 15 16:17:54 <rg>	theyre all trustworthy
Dec 15 16:18:00 <rg>	i wouldnt let them in if they werent
Dec 15 16:18:01 <Diablo-D3>	but if he doesnt pay on those btc-mining shares, Im going to beat his ass like a drum
Dec 15 16:18:03 <rg>	the best part about it is
Dec 15 16:18:07 <rg>	this is my A list
Dec 15 16:18:12 <rg>	this is who i wanted to do bitvps
Dec 15 16:18:20 <Diablo-D3>	if thats your A list, eh
Dec 15 16:18:24 <Diablo-D3>	you need a better A list
Dec 15 16:18:28 <Diablo-D3>	thats more like a B list
Dec 15 16:18:36 <rg>	cause an 18 year experienced linux admin is bad...
Dec 15 16:18:38 <rg>	puh leaze
Dec 15 16:18:45 <rg>	BTC-Mining is smart with numbers and a good programmer
Dec 15 16:18:51 <dub>	I've used linux wince 2001 so I know my stuff
Dec 15 16:18:57 <Diablo-D3>	well, he'd have to have been using linux 6 years longer than me
Dec 15 16:19:01 <Diablo-D3>	which might be impossible
Dec 15 16:19:15 <dub>	how dod I shot web
Dec 15 16:19:32 <Diablo-D3>	he'd have to have been using linux when it was 3 years old
Dec 15 16:20:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5206 @ 0.00063596 = 3.3108 BTC [+]
Dec 15 16:20:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063773 = 2.7556 BTC [+]
Dec 15 16:20:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 475 @ 0.00063789 = 0.303 BTC [+]
Dec 15 16:20:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00063797 = 12.9508 BTC [+]
Dec 15 16:20:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2898 @ 0.00063831 = 1.8498 BTC [+]
Dec 15 16:21:03 <Diablo-D3>	hell, I think thats even pre 2.0
Dec 15 16:21:29 <Diablo-D3>	post debian though
Dec 15 16:23:46 <smickles>	lol, mircea_popescu. fireball just called out your order : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1402245#msg1402245
Dec 15 16:25:13 <EskimoBob>	I moved permanently to Linux on 2002
Dec 15 16:25:32 <smickles>	oh, 1 order of magnitude off, i guess
Dec 15 16:26:28 <dub>	EskimoBob knows his stuff
Dec 15 16:26:31 <rg>	the first linux i used...
Dec 15 16:26:35 <rg>	was RedHat 4.2
Dec 15 16:26:39 <rg>	with 2.0.x
Dec 15 16:26:43 <rg>	vanderbilt
Dec 15 16:26:44 <rg>	ehe
Dec 15 16:26:51 <dub>	rg knows his stuff
Dec 15 16:27:08 <rg>	redhat 4.2 was the last good redhat release
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Dec 15 16:31:23 <EskimoBob>	RH was my first too. :)
Dec 15 16:31:30 <Diablo-D3>	I moved to linux shortly before potato became stable so....
Dec 15 16:31:53 <Diablo-D3>	that was 2000
Dec 15 16:31:57 <Diablo-D3>	and by move to, I mean fulltime
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Dec 15 16:32:07 <Diablo-D3>	I dual booted for 2-3 years before that
Dec 15 16:33:22 <EskimoBob>	yeah, potato. is still call debian "potato"
Dec 15 16:33:41 <Diablo-D3>	?
Dec 15 16:33:49 <Diablo-D3>	I know stable is glacial, but jeez
Dec 15 16:34:48 <Diablo-D3>	buzz, rex, bo, hamm, slink, woody, sarge, etch, lenny, and squeeze
Dec 15 16:35:04 <Diablo-D3>	with wheezy testing, and jessie is the next testing after that
Dec 15 16:35:14 <Diablo-D3>	pretty sure I havent left anyone out
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Dec 15 16:38:09 <rg>	ehe
Dec 15 16:38:13 <rg>	not only was RH my first linux
Dec 15 16:38:17 <rg>	i got it in a magazine
Dec 15 16:38:30 <rg>	remember when magazines/books used to come with CDs
Dec 15 16:38:32 <rg>	good times
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Dec 15 16:44:36 <EskimoBob>	and papers had adds: super fast new CPU 333Mh !
Dec 15 16:46:55 <Namjies>	I'm not that knowledgeable. I'm not a programmer either.
Dec 15 16:48:29 <mircea_popescu>	<Diablo-D3> cant put that geanie back in the bottle <<< diablo scammed spelling.
Dec 15 16:48:45 <smickles>	my first linux was given to my by a friend in the halls of highschool on a floppy
Dec 15 16:50:01 <smickles>	iirc, it was DSL
Dec 15 16:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6672 @ 0.00062774 = 4.1883 BTC [-]
Dec 15 16:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4276 @ 0.00062507 = 2.6728 BTC [-]
Dec 15 16:56:25 <thestringpuller>	smickles:
Dec 15 16:56:30 <thestringpuller>	do you have a moment to talk
Dec 15 16:56:40 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu and I had a good talk :)
Dec 15 16:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	sure
Dec 15 16:57:32 <thestringpuller>	we came up with a question for you though mircea_popescu
Dec 15 16:58:37 <thestringpuller>	if we are to completely avoid regulation, i.e. paying 0 taxes to the man to support the welfare kids, wouldn't we have to ship from say a private island? or like the middle of the ocean?
Dec 15 17:03:38 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea.
Dec 15 17:05:39 <thestringpuller>	no ideas at all? like fo realz, how would go cryptoanarchy on it?
Dec 15 17:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15378 @ 0.00062613 = 9.6286 BTC [+]
Dec 15 17:06:04 <thestringpuller>	we should just overthrow the government in a small country and ship from there
Dec 15 17:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3222 @ 0.00063375 = 2.0419 BTC [+]
Dec 15 17:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	why exactly wouldn't you pay taxes ?
Dec 15 17:06:30 <thestringpuller>	because it supports people on welfare...
Dec 15 17:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	seems cheaper than overthrowing a government
Dec 15 17:06:42 <thestringpuller>	and defeats the purpose of decentralization
Dec 15 17:06:52 <thestringpuller>	i'm just being overly libertarian today... :P
Dec 15 17:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol k
Dec 15 17:07:07 <thestringpuller>	i'm workin' hard to move this cocoa
Dec 15 17:07:21 <thestringpuller>	why should the hipster barista's see a dime of it?
Dec 15 17:08:04 <thestringpuller>	because they fail at life, thinking that going to art school for $20,000 a semester would train them to write the shitty movie that they're parents are paying for
Dec 15 17:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol. they smell it anyway
Dec 15 17:08:31 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I can't currently try to pull off illegal things
Dec 15 17:08:39 <thestringpuller>	XD
Dec 15 17:08:43 <thestringpuller>	okay so how do we do it legally
Dec 15 17:08:53 <thestringpuller>	how many tariffs we gonna have to pay
Dec 15 17:09:01 <smickles>	and I mean, specifically, things which are illigal where I am or where my immediate family is
Dec 15 17:09:25 <thestringpuller>	btc based physical future delivery isn't illegal in the US is it?
Dec 15 17:09:34 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i'm unsure, but I think we'd only pay tarrifs if we imported things
Dec 15 17:09:54 <thestringpuller>	my idea is to price everything based on farm distribution
Dec 15 17:10:09 <thestringpuller>	we'd buy directly from willing cocoa farmers and that would set the baseline price for the market
Dec 15 17:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	that'd prolly work.
Dec 15 17:10:45 <thestringpuller>	from there it's underwriting the future contracts in a fashion similar to the mpoe bot
Dec 15 17:11:03 <thestringpuller>	i only keep bringing the bot up because he tends not to lose money in the longterm
Dec 15 17:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	the mpoe bot is b-s tho. i don't imagine you need something like that if you have price and forecast inputs from the farmers.
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Dec 15 17:12:02 <smickles>	thestringpuller: you wan't to do actual publicly traded futures in 'merica?
Dec 15 17:12:23 <thestringpuller>	it's be btc based though so it wouldn't be limited to america
Dec 15 17:12:28 <thestringpuller>	the clearing house would just be in murica
Dec 15 17:12:58 <smickles>	I'm sure there are a ton of regulations to comply with then
Dec 15 17:13:14 <smickles>	do you have a lot of capital to launch it?
Dec 15 17:13:24 <thestringpuller>	capital isn't an issue
Dec 15 17:13:30 <thestringpuller>	well it won't be an issue
Dec 15 17:13:35 <thestringpuller>	it's the regulation that's the issue
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Dec 15 17:13:46 <thestringpuller>	the whole point of btc is to be self regulating...
Dec 15 17:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i fail to see the sense, if the cocoa isn't produced in the states why centralize it there ?
Dec 15 17:14:00 <thestringpuller>	i just happen to live here
Dec 15 17:14:16 <mircea_popescu>	kinda dubious criteria
Dec 15 17:14:17 <smickles>	get an employee in columbia or wherever
Dec 15 17:14:18 <thestringpuller>	i mean I can send people to columbia or wherever the fuck the farm is and they can set up a trailer office there
Dec 15 17:14:23 <thestringpuller>	but the LLC will likely be american
Dec 15 17:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Dec 15 17:14:35 <thestringpuller>	cause I live here?
Dec 15 17:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
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Dec 15 17:14:54 <thestringpuller>	i mean if you can make it so I have control and it's in another country (some vehicle to do that) I'd rather go that option
Dec 15 17:14:58 <thestringpuller>	like romania :)
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Dec 15 17:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	you can make a corp in any country wth.
Dec 15 17:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	hire a local lawyer you'reset.
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Dec 15 17:15:50 <thestringpuller>	is it really that easy?
Dec 15 17:16:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062518 = 2.7014 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:16:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10689 @ 0.00062507 = 6.6814 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	logically, a lawschool student incapable of drafting incorporation papers isn't able to graduate.
Dec 15 17:16:35 <mircea_popescu>	in any country.
Dec 15 17:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	like a doctor that can't feel tits.
Dec 15 17:17:21 <thestringpuller>	i think they call that molestation
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Dec 15 17:18:47 <thestringpuller>	smickles: what is your take on this physical delivery of futures
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Dec 15 17:23:15 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I'm not familiar enough on practicing the business in 'merica to render much of an opinion. but Ideally, it sounds easy. make contract, honor the contract
Dec 15 17:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17185 @ 0.00062507 = 10.7418 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:24:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7791 @ 0.00062292 = 4.8532 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:24:49 <thestringpuller>	smickles what about the underwriting model? the mpoe bot seems to make most of it's money because it prices the contracts effectively
Dec 15 17:25:15 <thestringpuller>	but fairly enough that it's worth purchasing at times
Dec 15 17:27:29 <smickles>	there are models for futures too, actually, it's possible to even use b-s, as options and futures can be converted to one another
Dec 15 17:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	sure, just not ususally done
Dec 15 17:28:15 <thestringpuller>	would you be willing to help me with the model?
Dec 15 17:29:38 <thestringpuller>	if I can prove that the capital is a done deal
Dec 15 17:30:05 <thestringpuller>	there are 2-3 people in the coffee world who would be interested in funding this endeavor
Dec 15 17:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller basically, you know what delivery costs, you know what you can buy cocoa for, so offer that
Dec 15 17:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	and offer to buy at a spread under
Dec 15 17:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	no magic involved
Dec 15 17:31:24 <smickles>	If you really need help with a pricing model, I can probably help you punch the numbers into one of the standard formulas
Dec 15 17:31:58 <thestringpuller>	well less help with the model and more with the accounting, I would like to retain your btc accounting services
Dec 15 17:32:14 <thestringpuller>	mainly because I feel this will get regulated
Dec 15 17:32:22 <thestringpuller>	and then that opens mpex up to regulation...
Dec 15 17:32:49 <smickles>	ah, you want me to do bookkeeping and reports for you?
Dec 15 17:33:10 <thestringpuller>	yes and general advice like when the feds come
Dec 15 17:33:22 <thestringpuller>	i meant, when the spanish inquisition comes
Dec 15 17:33:41 <thestringpuller>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#34
Dec 15 17:34:41 <Diablo-D3>	no one expects the spanish inquisition
Dec 15 17:34:50 <Diablo-D3>	frankly, I think they're hiding in the fridge
Dec 15 17:35:02 <Diablo-D3>	open it to get a soda BAM, forum threads spill out with scam accusations
Dec 15 17:35:14 <thestringpuller>	i thought you were a scammer
Dec 15 17:35:27 <Diablo-D3>	nope
Dec 15 17:35:37 <Diablo-D3>	just someone who got scammed by nefario
Dec 15 17:35:39 <thestringpuller>	i was just trollin'
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Dec 15 17:35:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3641 @ 0.00062292 = 2.2681 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:36:44 <smickles>	thestringpuller: you must know i'm not an expert in commodities trade regulation
Dec 15 17:37:54 <thestringpuller>	cocoa is currently at 3 units
Dec 15 17:38:07 <thestringpuller>	oops 4
Dec 15 17:38:09 <thestringpuller>	for the month
Dec 15 17:38:42 <EskimoBob>	if you have not noticed, there is a new virtual security in litecoinglobal https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/ART
Dec 15 17:39:14 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: cocoa is sold all over the wold. Why not talk to some of the guys?
Dec 15 17:39:14 <thestringpuller>	...
Dec 15 17:39:32 <EskimoBob>	maybe you can use existing delivery networks to get your goods moving
Dec 15 17:39:34 <thestringpuller>	the idea is to sell cocoa through mpex
Dec 15 17:39:48 <thestringpuller>	and deregulated from the current market it's pegged at
Dec 15 17:40:03 <EskimoBob>	hmm.. contraband?
Dec 15 17:40:26 <thestringpuller>	no just shipped using a different currency?
Dec 15 17:40:35 <thestringpuller>	it'd be like someone using gold bars to buy oil or something
Dec 15 17:40:50 <EskimoBob>	you do not ship currency, you ship goods
Dec 15 17:41:05 <smickles>	thestringpuller: from what i'm reading, it is generally illegal for 'mericans to offer futures to other 'mericans, unless it is done on a US regulated exchange
Dec 15 17:41:06 <EskimoBob>	you get paid in BTC and this is your business
Dec 15 17:41:14 <thestringpuller>	...
Dec 15 17:41:27 <thestringpuller>	no one currently sells mass amounts of cocoa for btc
Dec 15 17:41:45 <thestringpuller>	there'd be multiple trade steps
Dec 15 17:42:10 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: I am not sure why is this even important. BTC is just a way to transfer fiat
Dec 15 17:42:30 <thestringpuller>	also with physical delivery of a futures contract I imagine with something like cocoa it'd be a way to move cocoa from a place of high supply to low demand
Dec 15 17:42:53 <thestringpuller>	by from market X that is in indonesia during a good season sell beans to coffee shops in new york
Dec 15 17:43:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062318 = 2.6928 BTC [+]
Dec 15 17:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4068 @ 0.00062292 = 2.534 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:43:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2908 @ 0.00061823 = 1.7978 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:43:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10679 @ 0.000618 = 6.5996 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13474 @ 0.00061761 = 8.3217 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:44:21 <EskimoBob>	do you see that BTC has actually nothing to do with that :) You need to move goods - few metric tons of beans ?
Dec 15 17:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	well, futures are not commonly used for procurement irl, but that may be different for btc i guess
Dec 15 17:44:28 <smickles>	thestringpuller: it seems that my company might have to register with the NFA
Dec 15 17:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	the national football association !?
Dec 15 17:44:53 <smickles>	indeed
Dec 15 17:44:56 <EskimoBob>	you need to use established shipping routes, wholesellers etc
Dec 15 17:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	wtf ?!
Dec 15 17:45:02 <thestringpuller>	lol procurment
Dec 15 17:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	yes ?
Dec 15 17:46:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061771 = 2.6691 BTC [+]
Dec 15 17:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1521 @ 0.00061761 = 0.9394 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:46:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7958 @ 0.00061732 = 4.9126 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:46:11 <smickles>	ah, thestringpuller foreign business that do futures business with us customers need to get an exemption from the cftc
Dec 15 17:46:38 <EskimoBob>	for start. Go sell a bag of beans you get wfom local whole seller and see what happens. Then try to buy a bag from X and send get it to your destination Y and see, what happens.
Dec 15 17:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	smickles at the leves involved i would imagine this would simply count as contract sourcing.
Dec 15 17:46:47 <smickles>	so if you want to do this, you either need to 'know your customer' or not live in 'merica
Dec 15 17:47:12 <thestringpuller>	people run companies from prison
Dec 15 17:47:17 <thestringpuller>	american prisons
Dec 15 17:47:19 <thestringpuller>	called club fed
Dec 15 17:47:26 <thestringpuller>	there's gotta be away to live here and operate it
Dec 15 17:47:32 <EskimoBob>	you can live where ever you want but you need to have a actual company in those countries :)
Dec 15 17:47:37 <thestringpuller>	even if the physical side oftheoperation is being run by romanian orphans
Dec 15 17:48:41 <EskimoBob>	and that's why I am telling to use distributors that are set in those countries. Not sure, what the value is you actually add to the deal but this is up to you to figure out ;)
Dec 15 17:48:45 <thestringpuller>	smickles: i refuse to be regulated, if money launderers want to by lots of coffee let them
Dec 15 17:49:03 <smickles>	heh, thestringpuller i don't see anything about the accountant needing to be registered with the nfa
Dec 15 17:49:04 <EskimoBob>	do they?
Dec 15 17:50:00 <thestringpuller>	lets do it!
Dec 15 17:50:04 <thestringpuller>	this is gonna be so much fun
Dec 15 17:50:39 <EskimoBob>	get yourself a 65 Kg bag and see, what you can do with it :)
Dec 15 17:51:40 <EskimoBob>	and I recommend looking around a bit. who is your competition for start
Dec 15 17:51:46 <thestringpuller>	dude that's not the point eskimo
Dec 15 17:52:25 <EskimoBob>	what is the point?
Dec 15 17:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5272 @ 0.00061732 = 3.2545 BTC [-]
Dec 15 17:55:55 <EskimoBob>	ask yourself: what is the value I am offering to my clients?
Dec 15 17:56:46 <EskimoBob>	figure out your businessmodel and for start, test it on paper
Dec 15 17:58:31 <thestringpuller>	...
Dec 15 17:59:37 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I don't think I could take you on as a client if I suspected your business operated in violation of the gov't's rules
Dec 15 18:00:29 <smickles>	thestringpuller: essentially, if you set up a foreign company to do this, and get a lawer to look it over and say it's ok, then I could
Dec 15 18:00:56 <thestringpuller>	“The thing that needs to be emphasized is that futures contracts are risk management tools,” Harangody says. “They are not intended to be procurement contracts” due to the expense and difficulty of meeting the exchange’s requirements. It’s easier to exit your responsibilities in the futures contract and go into the spot market and buy or sell those commodities, he adds.
Dec 15 18:01:04 <smickles>	but, as I am trying to become a CPA in the future, there are ethical guidelines I need to adhere too
Dec 15 18:02:09 <thestringpuller>	I think as mircea_popescu said, it'd be more like a contract settler
Dec 15 18:02:47 <smickles>	I just need to be reasonably sure that it's not illegal for you to do ;)
Dec 15 18:03:02 <smickles>	bbl
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Dec 15 18:05:42 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: would physical delivery be a stepping stone for a procurment market?
Dec 15 18:07:06 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea. irl futures rarely deliver
Dec 15 18:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	but btc is often paradoxical.
Dec 15 18:08:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2020 @ 0.00061732 = 1.247 BTC [-]
Dec 15 18:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00061715 = 4.9989 BTC [-]
Dec 15 18:08:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.0006162 = 1.14 BTC [-]
Dec 15 18:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00061574 = 9.2361 BTC [-]
Dec 15 18:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00061533 = 13.3219 BTC [-]
Dec 15 18:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3825 @ 0.00061469 = 2.3512 BTC [-]
Dec 15 18:12:52 <thestringpuller>	someone is selling lol
Dec 15 18:14:28 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what value do you see physical delivery bringing to btc?
Dec 15 18:14:43 <thestringpuller>	is it just because that's the way contracts were always done?
Dec 15 18:15:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062348 = 2.6941 BTC [+]
Dec 15 18:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5755 @ 0.00062368 = 3.5893 BTC [+]
Dec 15 18:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	it makes prices be provably fair
Dec 15 18:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	othwise futures markets fail to work, as icbit is on the verge of proving
Dec 15 18:17:31 <thestringpuller>	:)
Dec 15 18:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0006235 = 1.247 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 18:25:27 <mircea_popescu>	so flash contest : first to correctly identify the money in the clip gets 0.1337 btc. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/portret-al-artistului-la-tinerete/
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Dec 15 18:28:09 <kakobrekla>	Venezuelan bolívar?
Dec 15 18:28:12 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: chilean peso?
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Dec 15 18:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Dec 15 18:28:30 <thestringpuller>	mpoe lost money in october and november?
Dec 15 18:28:38 <smickles>	thestringpuller: no?
Dec 15 18:28:50 <kakobrekla>	costa rica colon?
Dec 15 18:28:56 <mircea_popescu>	hehe yeah. addy ?
Dec 15 18:29:24 <kakobrekla>	hum lemme find one
Dec 15 18:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	look under bed
Dec 15 18:29:50 <kakobrekla>	1P9rQm6AfVXuzPtQf8B9pT4aeoPFAzKZ72
Dec 15 18:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	it's where i always find mine
Dec 15 18:29:56 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Dec 15 18:29:59 <kakobrekla>	it was behind it
Dec 15 18:30:05 <thestringpuller>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-november-2012-statement/
Dec 15 18:30:27 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller the bot itself turning a profit and mpoe showing a profit are diff things
Dec 15 18:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	due to the cost of capital involved.
Dec 15 18:30:50 <thestringpuller>	explain
Dec 15 18:31:02 <smickles>	thestringpuller: basically, the bondholders took some of their own principal
Dec 15 18:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	well, take nov. the bot made about 2k btc trading about 20k each way.
Dec 15 18:31:25 <mircea_popescu>	but because it used ~40k btc to insure its trades and they ended up auctioned for like 9.9%
Dec 15 18:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	it ended up paying 4k in interest, so mpoe showed a -
Dec 15 18:32:47 <thestringpuller>	who pys the 9.9 percent mpoe?
Dec 15 18:32:52 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Dec 15 18:33:00 <thestringpuller>	so how is that a profit?
Dec 15 18:33:06 <thestringpuller>	there was a 2k loss
Dec 15 18:33:11 <smickles>	everyone involved mad btc
Dec 15 18:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	...
Dec 15 18:33:14 <smickles>	*made
Dec 15 18:33:27 <smickles>	2k of principal was returned
Dec 15 18:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i really have to come up with a better accounting scheme for this, it confuses EVERYBODY
Dec 15 18:33:55 <thestringpuller>	it really does
Dec 15 18:34:31 <thestringpuller>	out of 41252 btc's of bondholder money 1961 was lost
Dec 15 18:34:43 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: if you capped the % to not return principle, it wouldn't show a loss
Dec 15 18:34:52 <thestringpuller>	but the bond rate made it so half of that wa returned
Dec 15 18:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2321 @ 0.0006235 = 1.4471 BTC [-]
Dec 15 18:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13795 @ 0.00062368 = 8.6037 BTC [+]
Dec 15 18:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller see -pr's explanation to rassah https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1386249#msg1386249
Dec 15 18:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	smickles yeah i guess, but for one i'd end up with having to round interests.
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Dec 15 18:38:14 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: or, you could but a line item in underneat the 'loss' line explaining that X of the loss was returned principle
Dec 15 18:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	i suspect that'd make it more c onfusing.
Dec 15 18:38:41 <smickles>	that way, unless there actually was a loss, the two would cancel each other out
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Dec 15 18:39:02 <mircea_popescu>	i think ima end up hiring free accounting support for random members of the public
Dec 15 18:39:32 <thestringpuller>	the mpoe-pr explanation is ridiculously clear
Dec 15 18:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	by now mpex is obscure enough to warrant a fucking qualification
Dec 15 18:39:39 <thestringpuller>	so this makes much more sense
Dec 15 18:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	like a 40 hour course
Dec 15 18:39:47 <thestringpuller>	heh
Dec 15 18:39:54 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller she's gifted.
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Dec 15 18:41:00 <thestringpuller>	in more areas than one (pun intended)
Dec 15 18:41:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i'm just suggesting to put the equivilant of this "1,961.31822035 BTC extra, which were also needed to pay the bondholders was actually taken out of their bonds" right under the -1`961.31822035
Dec 15 18:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	mayne as a footnote or something
Dec 15 18:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller in many areas and some zones
Dec 15 18:42:26 <thestringpuller>	so the -1961 needed to pay out positions on the contracts
Dec 15 18:42:32 <thestringpuller>	that's taken from the bond
Dec 15 18:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	its actually needed to pay interests
Dec 15 18:43:58 <thestringpuller>	so where does the profit come from?
Dec 15 18:44:01 <mircea_popescu>	basically, bondholders asked for 9.9%. mpoe made enough to pay ~5%. the rest came out of their capital, as a sort of amortisation of a bizzare kind
Dec 15 18:44:18 <thestringpuller>	oh
Dec 15 18:44:19 <thestringpuller>	heh
Dec 15 18:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	it's like, you lend 1k and say you want 10% a month.
Dec 15 18:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	if the business makes enough to pay you 10% fine
Dec 15 18:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	if not, it gives you back some of your capital.
Dec 15 18:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	eventually you passively get all your capital back if the business sucks.
Dec 15 18:45:32 <thestringpuller>	but mpoe annually makes money?
Dec 15 18:45:38 <thestringpuller>	octoboer and november seemed like bad months
Dec 15 18:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	well 1. you mean mpoe or the bot and 2. make money for whom ?
Dec 15 18:46:13 <thestringpuller>	for you the busiess
Dec 15 18:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	that;d be the shareholders.
Dec 15 18:46:31 <thestringpuller>	yea
Dec 15 18:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	it ALWAYS makes money for shareholders on the grounds it can never lose any.
Dec 15 18:47:08 <thestringpuller>	can the bondholders exit their bond position and get their entire principle back in a liquidation event?
Dec 15 18:47:15 <thestringpuller>	after settlements
Dec 15 18:47:22 <mircea_popescu>	they can ask for their capital back at any point
Dec 15 18:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	will receive it at the end of the current month.
Dec 15 18:47:34 <thestringpuller>	very effective model
Dec 15 18:47:40 <mircea_popescu>	:)
Dec 15 18:48:14 <thestringpuller>	but ideally the bot needs to make money
Dec 15 18:48:25 <thestringpuller>	you are the pimp the bot is the hoe
Dec 15 18:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	the bot itself only lost money two months out of 10
Dec 15 18:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	one was significant (august)
Dec 15 18:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	the other was some pennies in june i think
Dec 15 18:48:43 <thestringpuller>	what about october/november
Dec 15 18:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	in november it made like 2k
Dec 15 18:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	in octomber i dun recall lets see
Dec 15 18:49:25 <thestringpuller>	oh
Dec 15 18:49:26 <thestringpuller>	i see
Dec 15 18:49:27 <thestringpuller>	jeeze
Dec 15 18:49:30 <thestringpuller>	i'm fucking dumb
Dec 15 18:49:33 <thestringpuller>	it's just confusing
Dec 15 18:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	you're right in oct it lost like 25 btc
Dec 15 18:49:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063363 = 2.7379 BTC [+]
Dec 15 18:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3078 @ 0.00063375 = 1.9507 BTC [+]
Dec 15 18:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7001 @ 0.00063861 = 4.4709 BTC [+]
Dec 15 18:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1151.23669403-1129.93294445
Dec 15 18:49:59 <gribble>	21.30374958
Dec 15 18:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	to be precise.
Dec 15 18:50:55 <thestringpuller>	in november it made around 2k
Dec 15 18:50:56 <thestringpuller>	okay
Dec 15 18:51:08 <thestringpuller>	it's just the capital expenses that make it so tough
Dec 15 18:51:10 <thestringpuller>	9.9%
Dec 15 18:51:11 <thestringpuller>	geez
Dec 15 18:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	was huge capital base too.
Dec 15 18:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is see, if bot trades 20k contracts it matters A LOT
Dec 15 18:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	if those are 2k open/close/open/close
Dec 15 18:51:43 <thestringpuller>	half of it was you though
Dec 15 18:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	or 20k open then closed
Dec 15 18:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	cause it needs a lot moar then
Dec 15 18:52:45 <thestringpuller>	but it seems like the bot is getting reemed on the capital expenses
Dec 15 18:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident smickles
Dec 15 18:52:59 <gribble>	Nick 'smickles', with hostmask 'smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com', is not identified.
Dec 15 18:53:20 <thestringpuller>	why are the capital expenses so high?
Dec 15 18:53:26 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller well people can always put their btc in more bonds
Dec 15 18:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	cause that's what bondholders ask for. its an auction model
Dec 15 18:53:38 <thestringpuller>	5-6% seems more reasonable for both parties...
Dec 15 18:53:48 <thestringpuller>	so the minimum asking was 9.9%?
Dec 15 18:53:51 <thestringpuller>	jeeze
Dec 15 18:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	no, mpoe always pays max % accepted
Dec 15 18:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	if someone puts 5k at 1%, someone else 2% at 3% and someone 100 btc at 25%
Dec 15 18:54:18 <thestringpuller>	oh
Dec 15 18:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	and 7.1k are needed
Dec 15 18:54:23 <thestringpuller>	yea
Dec 15 18:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	it will pay 25% on 7.1k
Dec 15 18:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1664 @ 0.00063005 = 1.0484 BTC [-]
Dec 15 18:54:37 <thestringpuller>	because of that model the % was higher
Dec 15 18:54:42 <thestringpuller>	now I see what you see
Dec 15 18:54:56 <thestringpuller>	that amount of capital needed to trade drives up the price of capital expesnes
Dec 15 18:54:59 <thestringpuller>	expenses*
Dec 15 18:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Dec 15 18:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	and in any event, i don't think THE ENTIRE world of BTC paid 2k interest on deposits last month.
Dec 15 18:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	so you know... MPOE is the financial center of lending by a fat margin.
Dec 15 18:55:54 <thestringpuller>	but the bot is getting lent money
Dec 15 18:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Dec 15 18:58:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17588 @ 0.00063861 = 11.2319 BTC [+]
Dec 15 19:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3361 @ 0.00063861 = 2.1464 BTC [+]
Dec 15 19:02:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00063864 = 15.2316 BTC [+]
Dec 15 19:02:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.00063925 = 0.6322 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 19:07:57 <smickles>	;;ident
Dec 15 19:07:57 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Dec 15 19:07:59 <smickles>	:o
Dec 15 19:08:42 <smickles>	;;ident
Dec 15 19:08:42 <gribble>	You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
Dec 15 19:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5011 @ 0.00063925 = 3.2033 BTC [+]
Dec 15 19:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6267 @ 0.00063949 = 4.0077 BTC [+]
Dec 15 19:10:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2622 @ 0.00063995 = 1.6779 BTC [+]
Dec 15 19:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident smickles
Dec 15 19:13:50 <gribble>	Nick 'smickles', with hostmask 'smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com', is identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
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Dec 15 19:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.0006337 = 3.5487 BTC [-]
Dec 15 19:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2657 @ 0.00063005 = 1.674 BTC [-]
Dec 15 19:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3393 @ 0.00062981 = 2.1369 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 19:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00062981 = 13.0056 BTC [-]
Dec 15 19:23:02 <kakobrekla>	;;rate mircea_popescu -10 FUCKIN SCAMMER!!! Has MILKed me for over 0.1336 BTC!! PROOF!!
Dec 15 19:23:03 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 2 to -10.
Dec 15 19:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	where's your address!
Dec 15 19:23:34 <kakobrekla>	i gave it to you
Dec 15 19:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	eh!
Dec 15 19:23:43 <kakobrekla>	00:29.46 ( mircea_popescu ) look under bed
Dec 15 19:23:44 <kakobrekla>	00:29.49 ( kakobrekla ) 1P9rQm6AfVXuzPtQf8B9pT4aeoPFAzKZ72
Dec 15 19:23:44 <kakobrekla>	00:29.49 ( mircea_popescu ) it's where i always find mine
Dec 15 19:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	where1
Dec 15 19:23:52 <mircea_popescu>	duh
Dec 15 19:23:52 <kakobrekla>	between the lines
Dec 15 19:24:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4594 @ 0.00062981 = 2.8933 BTC [-]
Dec 15 19:24:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062725 = 6.8998 BTC [-]
Dec 15 19:24:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6656 @ 0.00062505 = 4.1603 BTC [-]
Dec 15 19:24:28 <kakobrekla>	twas 1337.
Dec 15 19:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	sent you 1336 mBTC. YOU CAN SUE ME FOR THE OTHER ONE
Dec 15 19:24:37 <kakobrekla>	MOTHERFUCK
Dec 15 19:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	mwahahahaha
Dec 15 19:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	and so empires are built!
Dec 15 19:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, icbit.se paid out.
Dec 15 19:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	a cool ~300 btc in profits.
Dec 15 19:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla : in exchange for your milk i offer you cowsies. http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135561763837.jpg
Dec 15 19:28:42 <kakobrekla>	alright, outweight the missing 0.074% of the settelment payment
Dec 15 19:28:52 <kakobrekla>	;;rate mircea_popescu 3 made good on the deeds.
Dec 15 19:28:53 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from -10 to 3.
Dec 15 19:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3628 @ 0.00063989 = 2.3215 BTC [+]
Dec 15 19:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	wtf 63.9
Dec 15 19:30:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12517 @ 0.00063546 = 7.9541 BTC [-]
Dec 15 19:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.bitmit.net/en/item/7548-intel-pentium-4-3-00ghz-cpu-processors
Dec 15 19:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	is this for real ? pentium 4 buy now .3 btc ?
Dec 15 19:32:35 <kakobrekla>	perhaps for the whole lot
Dec 15 19:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean whole lot ?
Dec 15 19:34:01 <kakobrekla>	>> I have 9 of them available
Dec 15 19:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	but i mean... a pentium 4 is worth more than 5 bux no ?!
Dec 15 19:34:22 <kakobrekla>	no
Dec 15 19:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	wow srsly ?
Dec 15 19:35:11 <kakobrekla>	preetymuch ya
Dec 15 19:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	i guess they woulsdn't be prescotts
Dec 15 19:37:12 <kakobrekla>	noone wants that
Dec 15 19:37:21 <kakobrekla>	even c2d are for the low end boxes
Dec 15 19:37:24 <kakobrekla>	these days
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Dec 15 19:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16894 @ 0.00062505 = 10.5596 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 19:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4003 @ 0.00062182 = 2.4891 BTC [-]
Dec 15 19:57:02 <kakobrekla>	lolz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130989.msg1402197#msg1402197
Dec 15 19:57:17 <kakobrekla>	i didnt see prs comment till now
Dec 15 19:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00335 = 3.35 BTC [-]
Dec 15 19:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.0033341 = 7.5017 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:03:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19643 @ 0.00062573 = 12.2912 BTC [+]
Dec 15 20:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8894 @ 0.00062696 = 5.5762 BTC [+]
Dec 15 20:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00063278 = 8.3527 BTC [+]
Dec 15 20:04:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9663 @ 0.00063428 = 6.129 BTC [+]
Dec 15 20:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	sooo
Dec 15 20:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	the december judges : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-first-roll-of-judges-december-2012/
Dec 15 20:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	anyone wanting to sue may do so now.
Dec 15 20:06:08 <mircea_popescu>	and also rota stuff can be followed in its own category http://polimedia.us/trilema/category/rota/
Dec 15 20:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ahaha
Dec 15 20:06:46 <kakobrekla>	get him to transcribe that youtube
Dec 15 20:06:52 <kakobrekla>	from amir or whats that guy
Dec 15 20:07:45 <kakobrekla>	to see if it was a fair transcription the first time
Dec 15 20:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 15 20:12:58 <thestringpuller>	i never just read forum posts
Dec 15 20:13:03 <thestringpuller>	these people are really dumb
Dec 15 20:13:23 <thestringpuller>	the debate between mpoe-pr and inaba (sp?) is really dumb
Dec 15 20:13:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 993 @ 0.0033341 = 3.3108 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062354 = 6.4225 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:21:25 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 15 20:21:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.55130, Best ask: 13.55131, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.55130, 24 hour volume: 15218.16247989, 24 hour low: 13.44216, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.54337
Dec 15 20:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0034 = 4.08 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 20:34:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00063009 = 5.4188 BTC [+]
Dec 15 20:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.0006315 = 5.5572 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 20:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00337621 = 8.2717 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:44:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000624 = 1.248 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:44:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1797 @ 0.00062354 = 1.1205 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:44:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00062282 = 2.8338 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:44:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5476 @ 0.00062111 = 3.4012 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 570 @ 0.00334008 = 1.9038 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062135 = 2.6849 BTC [+]
Dec 15 20:56:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4724 @ 0.00062111 = 2.9341 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3489 @ 0.00062082 = 2.166 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00062033 = 4.4974 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2966 @ 0.0006161 = 1.8274 BTC [-]
Dec 15 20:58:47 <thestringpuller>	look at these niggas sellin there shares
Dec 15 21:02:38 <Namjies>	What? Would it be going in the other direction than the strings you're pulling?
Dec 15 21:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	later all.
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Dec 15 21:07:26 <thestringpuller>	you pull the strings by moving wet off the step
Dec 15 21:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062245 = 2.6896 BTC [+]
Dec 15 21:09:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10279 @ 0.00062271 = 6.4008 BTC [+]
Dec 15 21:09:49 <Namjies>	Eh
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Dec 15 21:20:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062165 = 2.6861 BTC [-]
Dec 15 21:20:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8351 @ 0.00062154 = 5.1905 BTC [-]
Dec 15 21:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4428 @ 0.00062014 = 2.746 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 21:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062257 = 2.6901 BTC [+]
Dec 15 21:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7679 @ 0.00062271 = 4.7818 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 21:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00337621 = 3.545 BTC [+]
Dec 15 21:26:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.0034 = 1.53 BTC [+]
Dec 15 21:29:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062271 = 3.9231 BTC [+]
Dec 15 21:32:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00062271 = 7.7839 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 22:09:06 <copumpkin>	smickles: you around?
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Dec 15 22:25:34 <copumpkin>	or is anyone a US landlord here?
Dec 15 22:27:29 <abracadabra>	what's the question?
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Dec 15 22:28:18 <copumpkin>	anyone dealt with a motion to stay a writ of possession before? in the process of evicting someone and the tenant filed one of those at the last minute
Dec 15 22:29:19 <copumpkin>	I've googled it a bit but just wanted to see if there was any advice floating around here :)
Dec 15 22:29:56 <abracadabra>	heh
Dec 15 22:30:08 <abracadabra>	sounds like the tenant has done this before
Dec 15 22:30:13 <copumpkin>	yeah
Dec 15 22:30:20 <copumpkin>	it's apparently a fairly obscure form
Dec 15 22:30:33 <abracadabra>	and evictions are usuaully stayed during xmas/new year around ehre
Dec 15 22:30:35 <abracadabra>	here*
Dec 15 22:30:38 <copumpkin>	all the standard process stuff I've seen on the county website doesn't even include it on the standard forms list
Dec 15 22:30:43 <copumpkin>	oh
Dec 15 22:30:53 <copumpkin>	just on principle?
Dec 15 22:31:02 <abracadabra>	sheriff wont evict anyone until 2nd week of january
Dec 15 22:31:12 <abracadabra>	i dunno why
Dec 15 22:31:18 <copumpkin>	the eviction was supposed to happen last week
Dec 15 22:31:19 <abracadabra>	they screw my christmas by not paying
Dec 15 22:31:30 *	copumpkin sighs
Dec 15 22:31:31 <abracadabra>	where you located?
Dec 15 22:31:34 <abracadabra>	or
Dec 15 22:31:37 <abracadabra>	where's the rental?
Dec 15 22:31:45 <copumpkin>	I'm in CT, but I'm doing this on behalf of my gf in FL :)
Dec 15 22:31:53 <abracadabra>	not really much you can do i think
Dec 15 22:32:05 <copumpkin>	yeah, they set a hearing for tuesday
Dec 15 22:32:09 <abracadabra>	a tenant well versed in the law can get 6-7 months rent free
Dec 15 22:32:23 <copumpkin>	but my gf's mom (the landlord on file) is traveling on that date
Dec 15 22:32:26 <abracadabra>	^^ worst case
Dec 15 22:32:40 <abracadabra>	she doesn't have a lawyer?
Dec 15 22:32:44 <copumpkin>	where are you?
Dec 15 22:32:47 <abracadabra>	chicago
Dec 15 22:32:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061945 = 2.6766 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 22:32:59 <copumpkin>	yeah, I think so, but there's some issue with the lawyer I think
Dec 15 22:33:06 <copumpkin>	I'll try to find out
Dec 15 22:33:19 <abracadabra>	ur gf mom doesn't need to be present
Dec 15 22:33:27 <abracadabra>	lawyer should be able to handle
Dec 15 22:33:44 <abracadabra>	i used to do some of my own evictions
Dec 15 22:33:47 <abracadabra>	was a pita
Dec 15 22:34:21 <abracadabra>	a little mistake can end up costing you a couple more months rent
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Dec 15 22:34:59 <copumpkin>	how about her family representing her?
Dec 15 22:35:03 <copumpkin>	is that allowed?
Dec 15 22:35:06 <abracadabra>	erhm
Dec 15 22:35:15 <abracadabra>	is any of her family an owner?
Dec 15 22:35:16 <Ukto>	jd suggested I buy, fixup ,and rent out mobile homes like hes doing
Dec 15 22:35:18 <abracadabra>	co-owner
Dec 15 22:35:20 <Ukto>	but i dont want to deal with that same stuff
Dec 15 22:35:29 <copumpkin>	abracadabra: don't think so, I think it's just in the mom's name
Dec 15 22:35:41 <abracadabra>	doubtful then copumpkin
Dec 15 22:35:48 <abracadabra>	unless family is a lawyer
Dec 15 22:35:55 <abracadabra>	familay member*
Dec 15 22:37:00 <copumpkin>	yeah, no
Dec 15 22:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 693 @ 0.00061994 = 0.4296 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 22:38:55 <copumpkin>	abracadabra: thanks for the info :)
Dec 15 22:39:34 <abracadabra>	np
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Dec 15 22:40:54 <Ukto>	copumpkin
Dec 15 22:40:57 <Ukto>	pm jddebug
Dec 15 22:41:01 <copumpkin>	why?
Dec 15 22:41:04 <Ukto>	he has alot of experince dealing with that stuff too
Dec 15 22:41:07 <copumpkin>	ah okay
Dec 15 22:41:21 <copumpkin>	thanks
Dec 15 22:41:28 <Ukto>	he has tenants
Dec 15 22:41:32 <Ukto>	that have pulled crap like that
Dec 15 22:41:32 <abracadabra>	lol
Dec 15 22:41:35 <abracadabra>	so do i
Dec 15 22:41:41 <copumpkin>	fucking tenants
Dec 15 22:41:43 <abracadabra>	but laws are diff in every state
Dec 15 22:41:44 <copumpkin>	more work than they're worth
Dec 15 22:41:44 <Ukto>	yeh
Dec 15 22:41:54 <abracadabra>	even in diff counties in the same state
Dec 15 22:41:56 <Ukto>	i dunno
Dec 15 22:41:58 <Ukto>	depends
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Dec 15 22:42:05 <copumpkin>	why can't all tenants be like me?
Dec 15 22:42:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00061315 = 5.2118 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 22:42:11 <abracadabra>	that's why you spend the $20 to check out the tenant
Dec 15 22:42:12 <copumpkin>	I pay rent on time and don't bitch and moan
Dec 15 22:42:21 <Ukto>	i know ppl that buy mobiles for 10k, fix em up for 2k, and rent them out for 700~1000/mo
Dec 15 22:42:23 <abracadabra>	and not take them and leave the place empty for a month
Dec 15 22:42:23 <copumpkin>	abracadabra: check out in what sense?
Dec 15 22:42:33 <abracadabra>	than take a tenant that will cosst you 5 months down the road
Dec 15 22:42:36 <copumpkin>	credit check?
Dec 15 22:42:39 <abracadabra>	credit/background
Dec 15 22:42:47 <copumpkin>	what are good services for the background check?
Dec 15 22:43:06 <abracadabra>	there was a service i used to use when i managed my own properties
Dec 15 22:43:25 <abracadabra>	could run a creidt/background check myself
Dec 15 22:43:31 <abracadabra>	that was a while ago tho
Dec 15 22:43:34 <copumpkin>	you remember what it was?
Dec 15 22:43:37 <abracadabra>	i use a management company now
Dec 15 22:43:40 <abracadabra>	not sure wheat they use
Dec 15 22:44:04 <abracadabra>	no.. sorry.. it was more than 7-8 years ago at least
Dec 15 22:44:07 <copumpkin>	ah okay
Dec 15 22:45:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062006 = 2.6793 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 22:45:32 <abracadabra>	i just did a quick search.. seems there's plenty of places that have popped up
Dec 15 22:45:55 <copumpkin>	yeah, it's just hard to know which are good and what to look for in a good one :)
Dec 15 22:46:35 <abracadabra>	you can usually do a court records search yourself
Dec 15 22:46:39 <abracadabra>	online
Dec 15 22:49:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7232 @ 0.00062579 = 4.5257 BTC [+]
Dec 15 22:49:17 <copumpkin>	yeah
Dec 15 22:52:44 <smickles>	co am now
Dec 15 22:52:48 <smickles>	copumpkin: am now
Dec 15 22:54:07 <smickles>	oh
Dec 15 22:55:44 <smickles>	RE: your question. If they can get a stay, afaik, it just delays the process
Dec 15 22:56:10 <smickles>	most places, they have to have a good reason to get one of those, or a good lawyer
Dec 15 22:57:11 <smickles>	it's pretty much bullshit in most cases tho
Dec 15 22:57:17 <copumpkin>	I see :/
Dec 15 22:57:26 <copumpkin>	well I know it's bullshit here cause he just doesn't pay rent
Dec 15 22:57:29 <copumpkin>	and the house is in good condition
Dec 15 22:57:35 <smickles>	as they, in order to be evicted, have essentially had plenty of notice to gtfo
Dec 15 22:57:54 <copumpkin>	and the eviction proceedings were done in a good way, with notices posted and shit like that
Dec 15 22:58:04 <smickles>	did they get a stay in this case?
Dec 15 22:58:05 *	copumpkin sighs
Dec 15 22:58:07 <copumpkin>	yeah
Dec 15 22:58:11 <copumpkin>	there's a hearing on tuesday
Dec 15 22:58:19 <copumpkin>	but the landlord can't attend
Dec 15 22:58:25 <smickles>	damn
Dec 15 22:58:29 <smickles>	i was just going to say
Dec 15 22:58:37 <copumpkin>	it's my gf's mom and she's traveling until end of year
Dec 15 22:58:40 <copumpkin>	really annoying
Dec 15 22:58:41 <smickles>	they can get it delayed further if the LL isn't there
Dec 15 22:58:56 <smickles>	"right to face your accusor" sort of thing
Dec 15 22:59:08 <copumpkin>	well, they had that at all the other steps of eviction
Dec 15 22:59:34 <smickles>	it's the law, it's been a long time since it was fair
Dec 15 22:59:40 <copumpkin>	fucking law :P
Dec 15 22:59:58 <smickles>	anyway, do they (your gf mom) have a lawyer?
Dec 15 23:00:12 <copumpkin>	I think so, but they have some issue with the lawyer I think
Dec 15 23:00:16 <copumpkin>	I'm not sure what the deal is
Dec 15 23:00:34 <smickles>	well, if the lawyer is smart, and the tennant dumb, they can get past it
Dec 15 23:00:41 <smickles>	the tennent has to claim hearsay
Dec 15 23:00:47 <smickles>	at the hearing
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Dec 15 23:01:29 <smickles>	copumpkin: good luck. Hopefully, you can get them out soon.
Dec 15 23:01:30 <copumpkin>	hearsay regarding what?
Dec 15 23:01:35 <copumpkin>	yeah, I hope so
Dec 15 23:01:51 <smickles>	hearsay, as in, the person making the accusation isn't there
Dec 15 23:02:02 <copumpkin>	hmm
Dec 15 23:02:08 <smickles>	the judge would probably accept an affadavit if the tennant doesn't object tho
Dec 15 23:02:27 <copumpkin>	except the affidavit is hard to do from the other side of the world :P
Dec 15 23:02:33 <copumpkin>	unless it can be over the phone
Dec 15 23:02:43 <smickles>	a fax might due
Dec 15 23:02:49 <copumpkin>	ah, good point
Dec 15 23:02:53 <smickles>	that's where the good lawyer comes in
Dec 15 23:03:03 <smickles>	i've done one by email that was accepted
Dec 15 23:03:30 <smickles>	it probably just needs to be notorized (or equiv.)
Dec 15 23:04:17 <smickles>	likely, this will be a record of what they owe, when they missed the payments. basically an illustration of how much time they have already had to make moving arrangements
Dec 15 23:04:47 <copumpkin>	yeah
Dec 15 23:05:08 <smickles>	the legal version of "oh yeah? well, you should've thought of that 3 months ago when you stopped paying rent and didn't make other arrangements with me!"
Dec 15 23:05:57 <smickles>	*other acceptable arrangements (that is)
Dec 15 23:05:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062585 = 2.7043 BTC [-]
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Dec 15 23:06:24 <smickles>	it's a fat lot of bs, but it seems to prevent total scumbag land lords
Dec 15 23:06:56 <copumpkin>	yeah
Dec 15 23:07:59 <smickles>	from what I know (in missouri) they don't give stays of possesssion lightly. mostly in the case that the place they were moving into burned down, and it's -10 degrees outside, so they can't just go live under a bridge for a while, and they have no family other than the 3 kids they have
Dec 15 23:08:24 <smickles>	but they have to present solid evidence of all of that
Dec 15 23:08:41 <smickles>	and then they get an extra week-month (depending on the judge)
Dec 15 23:09:45 <copumpkin>	yeah, in this county
Dec 15 23:09:48 <copumpkin>	apparently it was just an oral plea
Dec 15 23:10:07 <smickles>	damn, are ther limits on how many they can do?
Dec 15 23:10:10 <copumpkin>	which is annoying because they received a sheet saying "we've stayed the writ of possession due to an oral argument"
Dec 15 23:10:18 <copumpkin>	so they didn't include a summary of his motivations
Dec 15 23:10:30 <copumpkin>	seems really shady
Dec 15 23:12:00 <smickles>	well, best advice i have is for someone to be there to speak on the LL behalf at every hearing. preferrably with a lawyer, if not a lawyer, basically study up and do every 'legaleze' thing they can thing of (including emotional appeals to the judge)
Dec 15 23:12:36 <smickles>	even if you do have a lawyer, someone else shoud go too
Dec 15 23:12:43 <smickles>	keeps the lawyer in check
Dec 15 23:12:50 <copumpkin>	yup
Dec 15 23:12:59 <smickles>	i've seen them playing fruit ninja at hearings instead of doing their job
Dec 15 23:13:06 <copumpkin>	annoying as hell cause my gf has a big important exam on friday and works all day
Dec 15 23:13:07 <smickles>	still charging hundreds of dollars
Dec 15 23:13:21 <smickles>	I think even you could go
Dec 15 23:13:29 <copumpkin>	I'm in CT
Dec 15 23:13:32 <smickles>	ah
Dec 15 23:13:42 <smickles>	how about CT shadow you?
Dec 15 23:13:44 <copumpkin>	I'd have to fly down and take time off my brand new job :P
Dec 15 23:13:45 <smickles>	;)
Dec 15 23:14:37 <smickles>	well, srsly tho, even just a friend who can at minimum recount what actually happened as a lawyer-independant source
Dec 15 23:14:50 <smickles>	hopefully someone who isn't afraid to talk the the lawyer
Dec 15 23:14:53 <copumpkin>	that's assuming they can even get the lawyer to show up
Dec 15 23:14:58 <copumpkin>	I think it's more likely to just postpone the hearing
Dec 15 23:15:00 <smickles>	befoere/during/after
Dec 15 23:15:24 <smickles>	doesn't someone have to show up to get it delayed?
Dec 15 23:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062832 = 2.715 BTC [+]
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Dec 15 23:15:48 <copumpkin>	I don't know
Dec 15 23:15:53 <copumpkin>	can't call over weekend :(
Dec 15 23:15:58 <copumpkin>	:P
Dec 15 23:16:06 <copumpkin>	mail got there on friday
Dec 15 23:16:10 <copumpkin>	and gf was at work :P
Dec 15 23:16:25 <smickles>	I've seen people show up, wait for the case to be called, and basically say "hey man, can we do this next week?"
Dec 15 23:17:07 <smickles>	granted, they got a stern look. but a more formal reques should avoid the look.
Dec 15 23:18:02 <copumpkin>	yeah
Dec 15 23:18:07 <copumpkin>	I guess we'll find out on monday morning
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Dec 16 00:23:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1905 @ 0.00063646 = 1.2125 BTC [+]
Dec 16 00:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.0034 = 8.5 BTC [+]
Dec 16 00:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063105 = 2.7268 BTC [-]
Dec 16 00:48:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21779 @ 0.00063079 = 13.738 BTC [-]
Dec 16 00:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063639 = 2.7498 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 01:12:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2045 @ 0.00063646 = 1.3016 BTC [+]
Dec 16 01:12:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10578 @ 0.00063655 = 6.7334 BTC [+]
Dec 16 01:16:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14719 @ 0.00063655 = 9.3694 BTC [+]
Dec 16 01:16:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1881 @ 0.00063703 = 1.1983 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 01:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16979 @ 0.0006364 = 10.8054 BTC [-]
Dec 16 01:22:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9724 @ 0.00063629 = 6.1873 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 01:31:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00063629 = 6.4583 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 01:33:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1376 @ 0.00063629 = 0.8755 BTC [-]
Dec 16 01:33:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0006348 = 4.4436 BTC [-]
Dec 16 01:33:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00063214 = 8.2178 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 01:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3192 @ 0.00063079 = 2.0135 BTC [-]
Dec 16 01:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 458 @ 0.00062808 = 0.2877 BTC [-]
Dec 16 01:44:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062828 = 2.7148 BTC [+]
Dec 16 01:44:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 529 @ 0.00062808 = 0.3323 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 01:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062835 = 2.7151 BTC [+]
Dec 16 01:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10863 @ 0.00062808 = 6.8228 BTC [-]
Dec 16 01:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13696 @ 0.0006226 = 8.5271 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 01:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062268 = 2.6906 BTC [+]
Dec 16 01:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 169 @ 0.0006226 = 0.1052 BTC [-]
Dec 16 01:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.00061958 = 3.0731 BTC [-]
Dec 16 01:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.0034 = 11.22 BTC [+]
Dec 16 01:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006306 = 2.7248 BTC [+]
Dec 16 01:56:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2474 @ 0.00063083 = 1.5607 BTC [+]
Dec 16 01:59:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3355 @ 0.00063293 = 2.1235 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 02:30:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062828 = 2.7148 BTC [-]
Dec 16 02:30:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00062841 = 4.4485 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 02:35:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16835 @ 0.00062841 = 10.5793 BTC [+]
Dec 16 02:35:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6165 @ 0.00062952 = 3.881 BTC [+]
Dec 16 02:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10027 @ 0.00062469 = 6.2638 BTC [-]
Dec 16 02:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062257 = 2.6901 BTC [-]
Dec 16 02:51:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1802 @ 0.00062222 = 1.1212 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 03:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062252 = 2.6899 BTC [+]
Dec 16 03:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24779 @ 0.00062222 = 15.418 BTC [-]
Dec 16 03:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062333 = 2.6934 BTC [+]
Dec 16 03:25:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 629 @ 0.00062364 = 0.3923 BTC [+]
Dec 16 03:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 319 * 0.01302041
Dec 16 03:29:33 <gribble>	4.15351079
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Dec 16 03:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062228 = 2.6889 BTC [-]
Dec 16 03:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7137 @ 0.00062222 = 4.4408 BTC [-]
Dec 16 03:46:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062356 = 2.6944 BTC [+]
Dec 16 03:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4329 @ 0.00062364 = 2.6997 BTC [+]
Dec 16 03:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062249 = 2.6898 BTC [-]
Dec 16 03:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3632 @ 0.00062222 = 2.2599 BTC [-]
Dec 16 03:51:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20766 @ 0.00061958 = 12.8662 BTC [-]
Dec 16 03:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23507 @ 0.00061958 = 14.5645 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 04:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4275 @ 0.00062072 = 2.6536 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 04:09:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12005 @ 0.00061958 = 7.4381 BTC [-]
Dec 16 04:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 745 @ 0.0006194 = 0.4615 BTC [-]
Dec 16 04:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8655 @ 0.0006194 = 5.3609 BTC [-]
Dec 16 04:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4071 @ 0.00061301 = 2.4956 BTC [-]
Dec 16 04:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5748 @ 0.00061301 = 3.5236 BTC [-]
Dec 16 04:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 914 @ 0.00061254 = 0.5599 BTC [-]
Dec 16 04:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9538 @ 0.00061202 = 5.8374 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 04:24:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00061667 = 14.4917 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 04:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1983 @ 0.0034 = 6.7422 BTC [+]
Dec 16 04:46:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061643 = 2.6636 BTC [-]
Dec 16 04:46:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00061663 = 1.6957 BTC [+]
Dec 16 04:46:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00061942 = 0.5754 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 04:54:23 *	mircea_popescu is now known as Guest6680
Dec 16 04:54:34 <Guest6680>	 /msg NickServ release mircea_popescu ati290pp
Dec 16 04:55:05 <Guest6680>	nickserv set passwd ati290pp sdffgP{1
Dec 16 04:55:16 *	Guest6680 is now known as mircea_popescu
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Dec 16 04:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00061942 = 2.0131 BTC [+]
Dec 16 04:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	jesus god what a comedy of errors
Dec 16 04:57:15 *	mircea_popescu is now known as m_p
Dec 16 04:57:49 *	m_p is now known as mircea_popescu
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Dec 16 04:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.0034 = 5.44 BTC [+]
Dec 16 05:00:47 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 16 05:00:55 <Ukto>	I hope you reset your passwd after that :P
Dec 16 05:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Dec 16 05:01:55 *	Ukto yawns
Dec 16 05:02:02 <Ukto>	finished setting up the stuff for terra
Dec 16 05:02:03 <mircea_popescu>	was due for a reset anyway, it's been over a year.
Dec 16 05:02:18 <Ukto>	working on another little something thats like a 10min peice of code
Dec 16 05:02:21 <mircea_popescu>	o also, : this http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpex-accounts-spring-scrub-2013/
Dec 16 05:02:36 <Ukto>	LIES
Dec 16 05:02:41 <Ukto>	iz not spring 2013 yet
Dec 16 05:02:48 <Ukto>	go away future boy!
Dec 16 05:02:49 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 16 05:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 16 05:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	and also, the MPEx Rota is a go, people can now sue.
Dec 16 05:03:45 *	Ukto sues mircea_popescu. "I dont like his face. He makes me sick." :þ
Dec 16 05:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	you need to specify damages. how sick ?
Dec 16 05:04:02 <Ukto>	hmm
Dec 16 05:04:14 <Ukto>	vomiting, ER visits... high blood pressure, stress...
Dec 16 05:04:27 <Ukto>	occasional diarea of the mouth
Dec 16 05:04:28 <Ukto>	>:P
Dec 16 05:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	that's like... half a btc
Dec 16 05:06:33 *	Ukto could make a joke about going on a killing spree. but someone may take offense with recent acitons, en which I woudl have to tell them to buy a gun,
Dec 16 05:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3871 @ 0.00061942 = 2.3978 BTC [+]
Dec 16 05:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2893 @ 0.00062072 = 1.7957 BTC [+]
Dec 16 05:12:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00061709 = 2.5609 BTC [-]
Dec 16 05:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061291 = 2.6484 BTC [-]
Dec 16 05:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5132 @ 0.00061274 = 3.1446 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 05:22:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061573 = 2.6606 BTC [+]
Dec 16 05:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00061601 = 5.6365 BTC [+]
Dec 16 05:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00062072 = 4.3941 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 05:34:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9903 @ 0.00062072 = 6.147 BTC [+]
Dec 16 05:34:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9097 @ 0.00062364 = 5.6733 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 05:50:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00061659 = 11.1603 BTC [-]
Dec 16 05:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10393 @ 0.00061274 = 6.3682 BTC [-]
Dec 16 05:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00337085 = 4.7192 BTC [-]
Dec 16 05:54:07 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: how is this rota thingy going to enforce anything?
Dec 16 05:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	voluntarily.
Dec 16 05:54:49 <EskimoBob>	and the point of the whole thing is?
Dec 16 05:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	you know, same as bitcoin.
Dec 16 05:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	doing things the right way.
Dec 16 05:55:24 <EskimoBob>	no, I do not know. Enlighten me
Dec 16 05:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	well, the problem with "enforcing" is that it takes effort. X does something stupid and now Y has to drop whatever he's doing, expend time and energy FORCING X to do the right thing ?
Dec 16 05:56:27 <mircea_popescu>	why bother.
Dec 16 05:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	you just eliminate X, case closed.
Dec 16 05:57:59 <EskimoBob>	so what you just said is that rota thingy is pointless
Dec 16 05:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Dec 16 05:58:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062333 = 2.6934 BTC [+]
Dec 16 05:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	not anymore than bitcoin is pointless.
Dec 16 05:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14033 @ 0.00062364 = 8.7515 BTC [+]
Dec 16 05:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2796 @ 0.00062381 = 1.7442 BTC [+]
Dec 16 05:59:04 <EskimoBob>	no, this hyperbole bull shit is not working on me :)
Dec 16 05:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062352 = 2.6942 BTC [-]
Dec 16 05:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7192 @ 0.00062381 = 4.4864 BTC [+]
Dec 16 06:00:37 <mircea_popescu>	you're not very well equipped to think, is the problem. but otherwise, hey.
Dec 16 06:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	knock yourself out.
Dec 16 06:01:33 <EskimoBob>	LOL, look who's talking
Dec 16 06:02:00 <EskimoBob>	you can not even explain your own idea the ... wtf
Dec 16 06:02:10 <EskimoBob>	you have the problem with thinking :)
Dec 16 06:04:06 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu, more substance, less opinions ;)
Dec 16 06:04:55 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: you seem up early :P
Dec 16 06:04:55 <EskimoBob>	or what ever you so pompously stated
Dec 16 06:05:04 <EskimoBob>	I am :(
Dec 16 06:08:25 <Ukto>	couldnt sleep? too excited over the asset? :)
Dec 16 06:09:01 <EskimoBob>	:)
Dec 16 06:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6869 @ 0.00062348 = 4.2827 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 06:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7981 @ 0.00062348 = 4.976 BTC [-]
Dec 16 06:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5394 @ 0.00061274 = 3.3051 BTC [-]
Dec 16 06:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225 @ 0.00061206 = 0.1377 BTC [-]
Dec 16 06:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061233 = 2.6459 BTC [+]
Dec 16 06:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14075 @ 0.00061206 = 8.6147 BTC [-]
Dec 16 06:31:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7354 @ 0.00061202 = 4.5008 BTC [-]
Dec 16 06:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061229 = 2.6457 BTC [+]
Dec 16 06:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35091 @ 0.00061202 = 21.4764 BTC [-]
Dec 16 06:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061207 = 2.6448 BTC [+]
Dec 16 06:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00061202 = 7.209 BTC [-]
Dec 16 06:45:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00061425 = 0.9214 BTC [+]
Dec 16 06:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3438 @ 0.00061202 = 2.1041 BTC [-]
Dec 16 06:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00061134 = 0.6725 BTC [-]
Dec 16 06:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19662 @ 0.00061083 = 12.0101 BTC [-]
Dec 16 06:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2821 @ 0.00061425 = 1.7328 BTC [+]
Dec 16 06:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.0006144 = 5.7139 BTC [+]
Dec 16 06:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00062041 = 6.6074 BTC [+]
Dec 16 06:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1629 @ 0.00062381 = 1.0162 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 07:03:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062271 = 9.3407 BTC [-]
Dec 16 07:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8289 @ 0.00061962 = 5.136 BTC [-]
Dec 16 07:03:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18576 @ 0.00061083 = 11.3468 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 07:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061103 = 2.6403 BTC [+]
Dec 16 07:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7979 @ 0.00061083 = 4.8738 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 07:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.AWHG] 220 @ 0.06231503 = 13.7093 BTC [-]
Dec 16 07:29:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ENGG] 230 @ 0.2576593 = 59.2616 BTC [-]
Dec 16 07:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6033 @ 0.00061083 = 3.6851 BTC [-]
Dec 16 07:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00061077 = 12.0627 BTC [-]
Dec 16 07:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3617 @ 0.00060993 = 2.2061 BTC [-]
Dec 16 07:36:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6433 @ 0.00060993 = 3.9237 BTC [-]
Dec 16 07:36:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9517 @ 0.00060927 = 5.7984 BTC [-]
Dec 16 08:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061734 = 2.6675 BTC [+]
Dec 16 08:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 429 @ 0.00061762 = 0.265 BTC [+]
Dec 16 08:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061728 = 2.6673 BTC [-]
Dec 16 08:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3465 @ 0.00061762 = 2.1401 BTC [+]
Dec 16 08:19:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006175 = 2.6682 BTC [-]
Dec 16 08:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2256 @ 0.00061762 = 1.3934 BTC [+]
Dec 16 08:19:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13523 @ 0.00061951 = 8.3776 BTC [+]
Dec 16 08:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00337085 = 0.3371 BTC [-]
Dec 16 08:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 315 @ 0.00334008 = 1.0521 BTC [-]
Dec 16 08:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1535 @ 0.0033341 = 5.1178 BTC [-]
Dec 16 08:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3727 @ 0.00061951 = 2.3089 BTC [+]
Dec 16 08:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2564 @ 0.00062381 = 1.5994 BTC [+]
Dec 16 08:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2009 @ 0.00062388 = 1.2534 BTC [+]
Dec 16 08:36:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00062388 = 1.7157 BTC [+]
Dec 16 08:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://imgur.com/r/aww/TZ4Nc
Dec 16 08:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061407 = 2.6534 BTC [-]
Dec 16 08:49:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11279 @ 0.000614 = 6.9253 BTC [-]
Dec 16 08:51:34 <Diablo-D3>	seen it
Dec 16 08:51:36 <Diablo-D3>	awwed
Dec 16 08:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	im new.
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Dec 16 08:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.writersofthefuture.com/time-capsule-predictions how about that
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Dec 16 09:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.0006206 = 14.7082 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2459 @ 0.0006206 = 1.5261 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6271 @ 0.000614 = 3.8504 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8177 @ 0.00061293 = 5.0119 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:13:09 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what else does btc need to win the war on fiat?
Dec 16 09:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	take over locs.
Dec 16 09:14:27 <thestringpuller>	don't locs break anonyminity
Dec 16 09:14:39 <thestringpuller>	well they don't have to wth the PGP Contract
Dec 16 09:15:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062353 = 2.6943 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:15:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5641 @ 0.00062388 = 3.5193 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:15:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4017 @ 0.00062415 = 2.5072 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:15:14 <thestringpuller>	line of credit right?
Dec 16 09:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061317 = 2.6495 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6644 @ 0.00061293 = 4.0723 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:17:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061325 = 2.6499 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:17:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4929 @ 0.00061293 = 3.0211 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:17:58 <thestringpuller>	I will be old, but not dead. Come by to see me, and bring a bottle.
Dec 16 09:20:21 <thestringpuller>	A lot of these predictions are sorta wrong
Dec 16 09:20:27 <thestringpuller>	Tesla made better predictions than deez
Dec 16 09:20:29 <thestringpuller>	nuts
Dec 16 09:20:45 <thestringpuller>	lets see wha mah niggy orson scott card has to say
Dec 16 09:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	letters of credit
Dec 16 09:21:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062396 = 2.6961 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3833 @ 0.00062415 = 2.3924 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00062479 = 14.995 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00062564 = 11.6056 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:21:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10806 @ 0.00062635 = 6.7683 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:21:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11326 @ 0.00062952 = 7.1299 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:21:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 814 @ 0.00062981 = 0.5127 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:22:36 <thestringpuller>	you want to pay for civil engineering projects with BTC eh?
Dec 16 09:22:48 <thestringpuller>	that's what most people use letters of credit for
Dec 16 09:23:40 <thestringpuller>	mpex and silk road I think are the only two businesses with enough BTC volume to even consider large LoC's for projects.
Dec 16 09:23:52 <thestringpuller>	for large projects*
Dec 16 09:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061315 = 2.6494 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00061293 = 4.1373 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2533 @ 0.00060927 = 1.5433 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1096 @ 0.00060884 = 0.6673 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:25:14 <thestringpuller>	great time to buy
Dec 16 09:25:27 <thestringpuller>	land and stuff
Dec 16 09:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	point is more like, chinese factory gets paid in btc
Dec 16 09:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	instead of everyone spending millions and waiting around for months for the banks to bother moving the locs around
Dec 16 09:29:17 <thestringpuller>	but we aren't at a point yet where BTC is liquid enough to use for end user payment
Dec 16 09:29:25 <thestringpuller>	as you stated before: "btc is not a consumer currency"
Dec 16 09:29:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060907 = 2.6318 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3466 @ 0.00060884 = 2.1102 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 09:31:39 <mircea_popescu>	this isn't consumer tho. suppose you want to buy 5 container's worth of cutlery.
Dec 16 09:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	you find your chinese source. what now ?
Dec 16 09:33:07 <thestringpuller>	I'm speaking from the perspective of the chinese source
Dec 16 09:33:28 <thestringpuller>	you get an order for a bunch of knives and shit
Dec 16 09:33:38 <thestringpuller>	and the person who is buying is offering in btc
Dec 16 09:33:45 <thestringpuller>	how the heck am I supposed to pay my worker?
Dec 16 09:33:49 <thestringpuller>	workers*
Dec 16 09:34:05 <thestringpuller>	(because we all know chinese factories are just a 90 year old china man running in a hamster wheel)
Dec 16 09:39:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14227 @ 0.00061414 = 8.7374 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:42:25 <thestringpuller>	the old china man just died waiting for an answer
Dec 16 09:43:17 <kakobrekla>	4 generations have lived and died from order time to delivery
Dec 16 09:43:37 <thestringpuller>	looks like they just never got paid
Dec 16 09:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.bankrate.com/financing/banking/banks-vs-cybercriminals/
Dec 16 09:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	In a scheme traced to a Russian computer and a hacker who calls himself "vorVzakone,"
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Dec 16 09:43:57 <mircea_popescu>	heh, that just means thief in law.
Dec 16 09:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1541 @ 0.0033341 = 5.1378 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1209 @ 0.0033268 = 4.0221 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 09:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller you just sell them
Dec 16 09:46:49 <thestringpuller>	then why not just buy them with fiat?
Dec 16 09:47:42 <EskimoBob>	legal thieve?
Dec 16 09:47:57 <thestringpuller>	oh look it's EskimoBob
Dec 16 09:49:43 <Ukto>	thats the most useless news report
Dec 16 09:49:44 <Ukto>	i have seen
Dec 16 09:49:58 <Ukto>	man, after all these years.I cant belive someones try to hack banks! WOW
Dec 16 09:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 16 09:50:43 <Ukto>	someones trying*
Dec 16 09:50:47 <Ukto>	so fucking tired -_-
Dec 16 09:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller looky. in normal commerce you go to your bank, get a loc, forward it to your supplier, signa contract, get telivery
Dec 16 09:50:54 <Ukto>	i finished writing the code I wanted
Dec 16 09:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	they take the loc to their bank, and cash it
Dec 16 09:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	this takes about a month and costs about half a million dollars.
Dec 16 09:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	with bitcoin it takes an hour and costs a cent.
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Dec 16 09:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12073 @ 0.00061414 = 7.4145 BTC [+]
Dec 16 09:52:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7938 @ 0.00060884 = 4.833 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2762 @ 0.00060866 = 1.6811 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 09:53:40 <thestringpuller>	sure but liquidity is an issue for large volumes there is no dark pool exchange that would handle large volumes of that much
Dec 16 09:54:21 <thestringpuller>	after the horror stories I hear about MTGox, trading back into a form of fiat seems...annoying
Dec 16 09:55:16 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: write me code
Dec 16 09:55:22 <thestringpuller>	I'll pay you 2 btc an hour
Dec 16 09:56:51 <Ukto>	double that, with a mcdonalds gift certificate a day :P
Dec 16 09:57:13 <thestringpuller>	Can I just pay you in mcdonalds
Dec 16 09:57:22 <thestringpuller>	and also put me in your will for when you have a mcstroke
Dec 16 09:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3391 @ 0.0033268 = 11.2812 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:58:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 759 @ 0.00332404 = 2.5229 BTC [-]
Dec 16 09:59:38 <thestringpuller>	I need a raytracer written in the next 3 hours
Dec 16 09:59:45 <thestringpuller>	if you can do it I"ll pay you 12 btc
Dec 16 10:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	www.slimeland.com/raytrace/ :D
Dec 16 10:03:01 <thestringpuller>	wtf a javascript raytracer
Dec 16 10:03:02 <thestringpuller>	bold
Dec 16 10:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;buy 200
Dec 16 10:10:58 <gribble>	(buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also (1 more message)
Dec 16 10:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;bid 200
Dec 16 10:11:15 <gribble>	Error: "bid" is not a valid command.
Dec 16 10:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	wtf was it
Dec 16 10:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,buy 200
Dec 16 10:12:17 <gribble>	Error: "bc,buy" is not a valid command.
Dec 16 10:13:12 <thestringpuller>	what are you trying to do mircea_popescu
Dec 16 10:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	there's a "bid up to X would buy so much and cost so much" command
Dec 16 10:13:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061389 = 2.6526 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4077 @ 0.00061404 = 2.5034 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;bids 200
Dec 16 10:14:31 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 200.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Dec 16 10:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;asks 200
Dec 16 10:14:39 <gribble>	There are currently 101863.18 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 2321158.05691 USD in total.
Dec 16 10:15:50 <EskimoBob>	"mcdonalds gift certificate a day" lol, you must hate yourself :)
Dec 16 10:15:58 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 16 10:16:12 <Ukto>	was just trying to come up with something wtf'ish to toss in
Dec 16 10:16:12 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 16 10:16:25 <EskimoBob>	didn't you have some health problems few days back?
Dec 16 10:16:33 <Ukto>	I did?
Dec 16 10:16:42 <EskimoBob>	so you can gracefully refuse the job offered?
Dec 16 10:16:43 <Ukto>	heart burn mebbe...
Dec 16 10:16:51 <EskimoBob>	nice :)
Dec 16 10:17:20 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1403354#msg1403354
Dec 16 10:17:31 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 16 10:17:40 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: saws it :P
Dec 16 10:18:04 *	Ukto has written enough code for new thing son BF today. spend some 15 hours now
Dec 16 10:19:01 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 14
Dec 16 10:19:03 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 14.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Dec 16 10:19:10 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 10
Dec 16 10:19:13 <gribble>	There are currently 88031.165 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 1043490.39366 USD in total.
Dec 16 10:19:18 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu whats the hidden agenda here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130989.0
Dec 16 10:19:52 <kakobrekla>	going after plato now lol?
Dec 16 10:20:20 <Ukto>	ROFLOL
Dec 16 10:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla just zinging caldwell a little.
Dec 16 10:23:03 <thestringpuller>	"As a complete aside: putting a 5mn BTC buywall @ $200 each up in MtGox might actually be the most rational use of a billion dollars currently. You'll end up with 2-3 mn BTC and the price will be permanently in the hundreds. Profit."
Dec 16 10:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129337.msg1380831#msg1380831
Dec 16 10:24:15 <kakobrekla>	;>
Dec 16 10:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061866 = 2.6732 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:24:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00061869 = 6.3106 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:24:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20005 @ 0.0006228 = 12.4591 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	im curious what he says, if anything
Dec 16 10:24:43 <EskimoBob>	wow, you guys still have petrol in 80'is? I haven't see anything below 92 for years :)
Dec 16 10:25:25 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller that'd prolly work.
Dec 16 10:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	hey, the guy just sent the transcript!
Dec 16 10:26:15 <kakobrekla>	lower is better
Dec 16 10:26:35 <EskimoBob>	where is 96?
Dec 16 10:27:06 <EskimoBob>	85,87,89,91
Dec 16 10:27:09 <kakobrekla>	is it any good mircea_popescu
Dec 16 10:27:45 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9jC0TP-Yug someone peek let me know how long this vid is please
Dec 16 10:28:37 <kakobrekla>	2.43
Dec 16 10:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Dec 16 10:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061714 = 2.6667 BTC [-]
Dec 16 10:29:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8129 @ 0.00061713 = 5.0166 BTC [-]
Dec 16 10:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062249 = 2.6898 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:36:31 <thestringpuller>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129566.msg1403069#msg1403069 lol
Dec 16 10:36:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5645 @ 0.0006228 = 3.5157 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:36:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1984 @ 0.00062688 = 1.2437 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:37:04 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: PM real quick
Dec 16 10:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062673 = 2.7081 BTC [-]
Dec 16 10:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6262 @ 0.00062688 = 3.9255 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:43:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061714 = 2.6667 BTC [-]
Dec 16 10:43:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5596 @ 0.00061713 = 3.4535 BTC [-]
Dec 16 10:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/monty-pextons-how-to-irritate-people/
Dec 16 10:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ^
Dec 16 10:46:12 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Dec 16 10:46:22 <Ukto>	doesnt jurov have somethign to do with coinbr?
Dec 16 10:46:24 <kakobrekla>	so 3 "uhh"s cost 0.5btc?
Dec 16 10:46:29 <kakobrekla>	:)
Dec 16 10:46:29 <Ukto>	or is my memory hazzy like usualy
Dec 16 10:46:36 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i paid the kid .65
Dec 16 10:46:42 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto he runs it
Dec 16 10:46:42 <kakobrekla>	rich man.
Dec 16 10:46:48 <Ukto>	then who is rini17 ?
Dec 16 10:46:54 <Ukto>	same?
Dec 16 10:47:09 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Dec 16 10:47:25 <Ukto>	weird. he is apparently quie perturbed.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1403381#msg1403381
Dec 16 10:47:33 *	Ukto pokes jurov
Dec 16 10:48:23 <Ukto>	quite*
Dec 16 10:51:06 <thestringpuller>	whatever happened to usagi "the great insurer"
Dec 16 10:51:13 <thestringpuller>	;;seen usagi
Dec 16 10:51:13 <gribble>	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 41 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <usagi> ahh well I guess I can't stick around... stuff to do ^^ good luck
Dec 16 10:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006267 = 2.708 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00062688 = 3.9675 BTC [+]
Dec 16 10:59:29 <thestringpuller>	i predict S.MPOE will hit 0.0007 by January
Dec 16 11:00:45 <Ukto>	I predict Santa will skip your house this year. :P
Dec 16 11:00:55 <thestringpuller>	your prediction is correct
Dec 16 11:01:05 <thestringpuller>	because my house will be empty this year
Dec 16 11:01:09 <Ukto>	hehe
Dec 16 11:01:10 <thestringpuller>	as I snowboard
Dec 16 11:01:15 <thestringpuller>	OR
Dec 16 11:01:17 <thestringpuller>	the world ends
Dec 16 11:01:25 <thestringpuller>	then no one gets christmas
Dec 16 11:01:51 *	Ukto gives thestringpuller an updated mayan calender for 2013
Dec 16 11:01:52 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 16 11:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061723 = 2.6671 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225 @ 0.00061713 = 0.1389 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6354 @ 0.00061229 = 3.8905 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:02:20 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (1.272 - 1.248)
Dec 16 11:02:21 <gribble>	0.024
Dec 16 11:04:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000615 = 1.23 BTC [+]
Dec 16 11:04:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061263 = 2.6472 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:04:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061259 = 2.647 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:04:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2496 @ 0.00061229 = 1.5283 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3362 @ 0.00060866 = 2.0463 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:04:57 <Diablo-D3>	$ ~/code/bitcoin/namecoin/src/namecoind getinfo
Dec 16 11:04:57 <Diablo-D3>	{
Dec 16 11:05:05 <Diablo-D3>	    "connections" : 50,
Dec 16 11:05:06 <Diablo-D3>	}
Dec 16 11:05:08 <Diablo-D3>	SRSLYT?!t
Dec 16 11:05:10 <Diablo-D3>	wsegdglkaer;klajrflkzf
Dec 16 11:05:12 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: how much are trilemma credits?
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Dec 16 11:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller a dollar buys like 1000 iirc
Dec 16 11:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00061764 = 1.9764 BTC [+]
Dec 16 11:32:51 <jurov>	Ukto, wouldn't you be perturbed if deadterra ignored you completely and instead chose some other trolls?
Dec 16 11:36:39 <jurov>	in the end, maybe i'll have the last laugh and be glad i did not get pulled into the mess
Dec 16 11:37:01 <jurov>	but ignoring my offer completely? a bit unnerving
Dec 16 11:37:45 <jurov>	especially that we was like "i don't have time for this, gsdpt will be dissolved"
Dec 16 11:37:46 <mircea_popescu>	eh offers get ignored all teh time
Dec 16 11:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	anyone running mpex can check on this bizzare "Couldn't decode the reply from MPEx, perhaps you didn't sign the key?" error ?
Dec 16 11:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	pympex i mean
Dec 16 11:40:46 <jurov>	i don't get it (the error, i mean)
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Dec 16 11:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	Azelphur are you on ?
Dec 16 11:42:07 <Azelphur>	yes
Dec 16 11:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	mind editing      self.mpex_url = 'http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php' to read
Dec 16 11:42:23 <jurov>	mircea, if you did not change the addy, you'll get this error
Dec 16 11:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	     self.mpex_url = 'http://mpex.co/'
Dec 16 11:42:33 <mircea_popescu>	i think some clients are failing to redirect properly.
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Dec 16 11:43:04 <Azelphur>	hmm
Dec 16 11:43:12 <Azelphur>	both of those go to your blog
Dec 16 11:43:13 <Azelphur>	for me
Dec 16 11:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	no wai ?!
Dec 16 11:43:27 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is this!
Dec 16 11:43:42 <Azelphur>	yo shit is broked
Dec 16 11:43:43 <Azelphur>	:P
Dec 16 11:43:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061457 = 2.6556 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1121 @ 0.0006147 = 0.6891 BTC [+]
Dec 16 11:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1108 @ 0.00061481 = 0.6812 BTC [+]
Dec 16 11:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	dude it works for everyone except some select ppl.
Dec 16 11:44:04 <Azelphur>	when did you change the dns
Dec 16 11:44:19 <jurov>	Azelphur, so you put  mpex.co into browser and end up on trilema?
Dec 16 11:44:28 <Azelphur>	yep
Dec 16 11:44:37 <Azelphur>	mpex.co redirects me to http://polimedia.us/trilema/
Dec 16 11:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	this is insanirty
Dec 16 11:45:04 <Azelphur>	but only in chromium.
Dec 16 11:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmpex.co%2F&http=1.1
Dec 16 11:45:11 <Azelphur>	so I guess it's a cache
Dec 16 11:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	dude dns servers... they're too broken.
Dec 16 11:45:45 <Azelphur>	hehe
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Dec 16 11:46:26 <Azelphur>	so yea, it's probably just that people have DNS caches that havn't updated yet
Dec 16 11:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	must be.
Dec 16 11:47:07 <jurov>	if it's only chromium, i think is not dns, instead the chromium cached the permanent redirect that was there before
Dec 16 11:47:18 <Azelphur>	yea
Dec 16 11:47:28 <jurov>	drop cache, retry
Dec 16 11:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	there was no mpex.co -> trilema permanent redirect
Dec 16 11:47:40 <mircea_popescu>	ever.
Dec 16 11:48:23 <jurov>	no, it went to polimedia.us/bitcoin/ or so
Dec 16 11:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Dec 16 11:48:32 <Azelphur>	https://github.com/Azelphur/pyMPEx/commit/b3db9ed68ba05e398abb9144e4fbce26f17b683b
Dec 16 11:48:36 <Azelphur>	:)
Dec 16 11:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	i just bought it.
Dec 16 11:49:00 <mircea_popescu>	Azelphur i think it needs the trialing slash
Dec 16 11:49:35 <Azelphur>	wfm without the trailing slash, didn't have a trailing slash before
Dec 16 11:49:42 <jurov>	ahh i confused it with mpex.us , sry
Dec 16 11:49:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4241 @ 0.00332404 = 14.0973 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1040 @ 0.0033099 = 3.4423 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5650 @ 0.0033085 = 18.693 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4500 @ 0.00330569 = 14.8756 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3624 @ 0.00330328 = 11.9711 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4200 @ 0.00330166 = 13.867 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2758 @ 0.00328363 = 9.0563 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:49:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00328102 = 4.2653 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00327777 = 13.9305 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:50:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2269 @ 0.00326356 = 7.405 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:50:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3150 @ 0.00325795 = 10.2625 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:50:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00325586 = 5.535 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3050 @ 0.00325365 = 9.9236 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:50:03 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
Dec 16 11:50:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3850 @ 0.0032516 = 12.5187 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:50:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3215 @ 0.00324185 = 10.4225 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:50:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00323884 = 2.2672 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:50:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 503 @ 0.00323631 = 1.6279 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	Azelphur before it was a file tho
Dec 16 11:51:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47242 @ 0.00061481 = 29.0449 BTC [+]
Dec 16 11:51:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1558 @ 0.00061787 = 0.9626 BTC [+]
Dec 16 11:51:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 299 @ 0.00323631 = 0.9677 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:51:21 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: doesn't matter :)
Dec 16 11:51:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3250 @ 0.0032254 = 10.4826 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7300 @ 0.00318027 = 23.216 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00200001 = 2 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00181006 = 1.8101 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00181003 = 1.81 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	aite!
Dec 16 11:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00181002 = 0.905 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	wtf
Dec 16 11:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00180051 = 1.8005 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:51:29 <Azelphur>	as I say it works, don't fix what ain't broke (tm) :P
Dec 16 11:51:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00180027 = 1.8003 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:51:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 33651 @ 0.0018 = 60.5718 BTC [-]
Dec 16 11:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	that's the buy of the century.
Dec 16 11:59:10 <kakobrekla>	kako y u no place no bids stupid.
Dec 16 12:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	whoever got the 33k is making like what, 10% this month on divs
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Dec 16 12:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	"Looking at the amount of information I have to wade through, I've decided to (attempt) to appoint a liquidator."
Dec 16 12:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	guess who ?
Dec 16 12:06:23 <Bugpowder>	Once again, stink bids FTW.  1) Place bid 2) Wait for panic 3) profit
Dec 16 12:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 16 12:07:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061346 = 2.6508 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:07:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00061331 = 10.0889 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1529 @ 0.00061128 = 0.9346 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:10:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061786 = 2.6698 BTC [+]
Dec 16 12:10:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5329 @ 0.00061787 = 3.2926 BTC [+]
Dec 16 12:11:51 <EskimoBob>	0.0018?
Dec 16 12:12:24 <mircea_popescu>	thanks a lot Azelphur :)
Dec 16 12:12:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 175 @ 0.12333771 = 21.5841 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:12:33 <EskimoBob>	wtf https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126560.msg1403453#msg1403453
Dec 16 12:12:35 <Azelphur>	 mircea_popescu welcome :)
Dec 16 12:13:04 <Bugpowder>	eskimobob  Panic due to the successful doublespend attack
Dec 16 12:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	you think ?
Dec 16 12:13:43 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: I was reading it too but sounds like it got fixed.
Dec 16 12:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	a little silly seeing how it was fixed already i thought
Dec 16 12:14:55 <EskimoBob>	I am not so worried about the possible double spend but how easy it is to copy that business and take away the clients by adding few cool features
Dec 16 12:15:12 <thestringpuller>	how did SDICE drop 300%?
Dec 16 12:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob so do it.
Dec 16 12:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3405 @ 0.00061757 = 2.1028 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:15:39 <Bugpowder>	The doublespend is still an issue
Dec 16 12:15:54 <Bugpowder>	if you need to perm change rules to only allow confirmed bets
Dec 16 12:16:05 <Bugpowder>	then the volume will go down on the small bets at least
Dec 16 12:16:27 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: gambling is really ugly on low business, I have told this before. I am not going to poke that pile of shit with any stick :)
Dec 16 12:16:30 <Bugpowder>	martingale betting is less fun if you need to wait for a confirm
Dec 16 12:16:35 <EskimoBob>	even if I use your hands
Dec 16 12:16:38 <Bugpowder>	on each loss
Dec 16 12:16:47 <thestringpuller>	double spend attack was successful?
Dec 16 12:16:50 <thestringpuller>	wtf is going on?
Dec 16 12:16:52 <thestringpuller>	what did I miss?
Dec 16 12:16:54 <EskimoBob>	on* is and
Dec 16 12:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	you're not going to do anything other than just talk, basically.
Dec 16 12:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	forum muppets just like you were all about duplicating sd back in august i think.
Dec 16 12:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	where is it ?
Dec 16 12:17:15 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130764.0
Dec 16 12:17:37 <Bugpowder>	I wish the asshole who sold would sell into my bi
Dec 16 12:17:38 <Bugpowder>	bid
Dec 16 12:17:38 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: you go and poke that pile of shit if you like
Dec 16 12:18:07 <EskimoBob>	not me, I am not going to do shit like that.
Dec 16 12:18:37 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: S.DICE is the same thing as a casino
Dec 16 12:18:40 <thestringpuller>	which makes tons of money
Dec 16 12:18:48 <thestringpuller>	why is it a "pile of shit"
Dec 16 12:18:56 <EskimoBob>	casinos are shit in my book
Dec 16 12:19:14 <thestringpuller>	not really, they are essentially giant arcades for adults
Dec 16 12:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 70 @ 0.03470276 = 2.4292 BTC
Dec 16 12:19:31 <EskimoBob>	you are welcome to think like that. I do not
Dec 16 12:19:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 916 @ 0.00061757 = 0.5657 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:19:45 <thestringpuller>	you must be one of those people who think there is mob involvment
Dec 16 12:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10263 @ 0.00061787 = 6.3412 BTC [+]
Dec 16 12:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1507 @ 0.00062202 = 0.9374 BTC [+]
Dec 16 12:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14492 @ 0.00062344 = 9.0349 BTC [+]
Dec 16 12:19:52 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Dec 16 12:20:00 <thestringpuller>	;)
Dec 16 12:20:12 <EskimoBob>	you are funny
Dec 16 12:20:13 <Bugpowder>	X.IDFF.JUN @ .0347
Dec 16 12:20:17 <thestringpuller>	so I'm told
Dec 16 12:20:18 <Bugpowder>	fuck an a
Dec 16 12:20:55 <thestringpuller>	S.DICE outperformed S.BVPS
Dec 16 12:21:11 <thestringpuller>	i wonder what BitVPS financials even look like
Dec 16 12:22:52 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: see pm again, about the other idea you had
Dec 16 12:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	i guess on the rise, under new management
Dec 16 12:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 20 @ 0.07995 = 1.599 BTC
Dec 16 12:29:55 <Bugpowder>	YES
Dec 16 12:30:14 <Bugpowder>	FUCK YES
Dec 16 12:30:18 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: ?
Dec 16 12:30:27 <Bugpowder>	sold my .MARs
Dec 16 12:30:48 <Bugpowder>	1.6BTC more to by S.DICE
Dec 16 12:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol buncha weirdness in futures atm
Dec 16 12:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	for instance, mar diff is rated 8mn, june diff is rated 3.5mn ?!
Dec 16 12:34:06 <thestringpuller>	wow
Dec 16 12:34:12 <thestringpuller>	that's really ingenious
Dec 16 12:34:31 <thestringpuller>	indexing network difficulty against a futures contract
Dec 16 12:34:42 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 16 12:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061141 = 2.6419 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9271 @ 0.00061128 = 5.6672 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:35:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4508 @ 0.00061099 = 2.7543 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:36:52 <Bugpowder>	I feel like its just one dude who is like, I wonder how this works, lets buy some!
Dec 16 12:36:57 <Bugpowder>	and sell some!
Dec 16 12:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 16 12:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062332 = 2.6934 BTC [+]
Dec 16 12:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5058 @ 0.00062344 = 3.1534 BTC [+]
Dec 16 12:37:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15552 @ 0.00062652 = 9.7436 BTC [+]
Dec 16 12:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Dec 16 12:37:41 <thestringpuller>	did you underwrite those contracts Bugpowder ?
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Dec 16 12:38:09 <thestringpuller>	or did you buy from someone else and resell?
Dec 16 12:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	jurov so what's this secret passthrough killer ?
Dec 16 12:39:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061127 = 2.6413 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3629 @ 0.00061099 = 2.2173 BTC [-]
Dec 16 12:39:13 <jurov>	just some really free (as in, no monthly payments) coinbr account
Dec 16 12:39:36 <FabianB_>	;;ticker
Dec 16 12:39:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.22000, Best ask: 13.29696, Bid-ask spread: 0.07696, Last trade: 13.21005, 24 hour volume: 19323.13716275, 24 hour low: 13.21002, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.47200
Dec 16 12:39:40 <jurov>	figuring out other ways to screw the users, and whether it's worthwhile at all
Dec 16 12:40:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 16 12:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	confucius sayz
Dec 16 12:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	do not screw the user unless they're really hawt.
Dec 16 12:40:25 <thestringpuller>	don't screw me
Dec 16 12:40:27 <thestringpuller>	i'm not hot
Dec 16 12:40:34 <thestringpuller>	and coinbr is awesome
Dec 16 12:40:37 <thestringpuller>	:)
Dec 16 12:40:43 <jurov>	no no, you have "Standard" account
Dec 16 12:41:11 <jurov>	this plan would be for freeloaders, if they desire it so much, let em have it
Dec 16 12:42:07 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller Just to MAR ones... To test the system.  I usually can't figure out how the futures or options contracts work before I have some coins in them :-P
Dec 16 12:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	" I feel like its just one dude who is like, I wonder how this works, lets buy some!" << now we know who :D
Dec 16 12:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i did find it a little funny people were like.. PAYING assets to list. competition eh.
Dec 16 12:44:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062628 = 1.8162 BTC [+]
Dec 16 12:44:34 <jurov>	hehe, yes. i considered dropping some vitriol like "and now deadterra ecretly hopes to pocket the 10btc"
Dec 16 12:45:06 <jurov>	but let be that someone else who points out, not me
Dec 16 12:46:01 <mircea_popescu>	it's really not such a big deal.
Dec 16 12:47:24 <jurov>	no it's not. i'd went much more beyond some rant on btctalk if it was the case.
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Dec 16 12:54:45 <EskimoBob>	ASIC circus is moving from ass kissing to ass kicking
Dec 16 12:55:06 <thestringpuller>	asics are vaporware
Dec 16 12:55:50 <EskimoBob>	really dense and hand rounded vaporware
Dec 16 12:56:23 <EskimoBob>	or is it glossware? They had pretty pictures :)
Dec 16 12:58:04 <thestringpuller>	i feel like everyone is underestimating the difficulty of mass producing an IC that's never been printed before
Dec 16 12:58:11 <thestringpuller>	vastly underestimating
Dec 16 12:58:37 <jurov>	meh, SHA256 circuit certainly exists
Dec 16 12:59:11 <jurov>	it's not like thay have to draw all the gates and program all that vhdl
Dec 16 12:59:40 <thestringpuller>	they probably copy-pasted VHDL and had a copy paste error :P
Dec 16 12:59:46 <thestringpuller>	(i kid)
Dec 16 12:59:51 <EskimoBob>	if those show up in March, we can say that that was fast.
Dec 16 13:00:27 <thestringpuller>	the micro electronics research facilities at technical universities cost hundreds of millions to build
Dec 16 13:00:38 <thestringpuller>	the dust filtration systems are state of the art
Dec 16 13:01:03 <thestringpuller>	just because someone can deploy a bitstream to an FPGA doesn't mean they can print a mask, and build an IC from it
Dec 16 13:01:21 <thestringpuller>	without say 1.5 million dollars
Dec 16 13:01:26 <thestringpuller>	or something insane like that
Dec 16 13:01:45 <EskimoBob>	how many coins was sent in preorder boom?
Dec 16 13:02:05 <thestringpuller>	how many of those coins were spent not on IC fabrication?
Dec 16 13:02:15 <EskimoBob>	I pulled bigger number out of my ass - 2 million
Dec 16 13:04:31 <thestringpuller>	"The design is complete. It’s just a matter of waiting for production and delivery. The boards, enclosures, and assembly teams are standing by, anxiously awaiting delivery of our 100% custom BFL ASIC chips so we can begin assembly and start shipping. "
Dec 16 13:04:52 <mircea_popescu>	is this new ?
Dec 16 13:05:08 <thestringpuller>	BFL is a joke of a fabrication company.
Dec 16 13:05:29 <thestringpuller>	any competent electrical engineer would surely pass on a job offer from them
Dec 16 13:05:36 <Diablo-D3>	oh fuck
Dec 16 13:05:38 <Diablo-D3>	dude
Dec 16 13:05:41 <Diablo-D3>	NEW FUCKING RULE
Dec 16 13:05:49 <Diablo-D3>	NO BFL IN THIS CHANNEL
Dec 16 13:05:55 <Diablo-D3>	TAKE IT TO THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD
Dec 16 13:06:01 <thestringpuller>	XD
Dec 16 13:06:08 <EskimoBob>	LOL, sure Diablo-D3
Dec 16 13:06:28 <Diablo-D3>	worked on the forum
Dec 16 13:06:38 <EskimoBob>	what other topics have you forbidden, oo big Diablo-D3 :)
Dec 16 13:06:39 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: not very new but a few days old
Dec 16 13:09:02 <thestringpuller>	"The design is complete. It’s just a matter of waiting for production and delivery. The boards, enclosures, and assembly teams are standing by, anxiously awaiting delivery of the chips so we can begin assembly and start shipping."
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Dec 16 13:09:28 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: keep reading, it get funnier
Dec 16 13:09:31 <jurov>	already seen that sentence somewhere
Dec 16 13:10:10 <Diablo-D3>	the bfl thread is sinking in bullshit
Dec 16 13:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile diff is projected to drop like 7%
Dec 16 13:10:53 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu has spoken, buy futures!
Dec 16 13:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	it;'s not me, its bitcoincharts
Dec 16 13:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	Difficulty	3370182
Dec 16 13:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	Estimated	3106928 in 1270 blks
Dec 16 13:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4120 @ 0.00061888 = 2.5498 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 201 @ 0.00061888 = 0.1244 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23299 @ 0.00061864 = 14.4137 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:14:08 <thestringpuller>	people who bought in at .0004 must be selling off
Dec 16 13:15:36 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 16 13:15:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30003, Best ask: 13.30004, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.30003, 24 hour volume: 19902.69578499, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.46254
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Dec 16 13:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1421 @ 0.00062628 = 0.8899 BTC [+]
Dec 16 13:17:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1499 @ 0.00062633 = 0.9389 BTC [+]
Dec 16 13:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	o back down under 13.5 huh
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Dec 16 13:28:45 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: do you like rothbard? http://www.amazon.com/What-Government-Money-Percent-Dollar/dp/0945466447/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1355158265&sr=8-2&keywords=what+has+government+done+to+our+money
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Dec 16 13:32:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4114 @ 0.00062019 = 2.5515 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:34:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 207 @ 0.00062019 = 0.1284 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11841 @ 0.00062048 = 7.3471 BTC [+]
Dec 16 13:34:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7352 @ 0.00062173 = 4.571 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 13:49:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062128 = 2.6846 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:49:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062114 = 0.6211 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:49:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10879 @ 0.00062113 = 6.7573 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.00062113 = 0.1994 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6310 @ 0.00061864 = 3.9036 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:51:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7726 @ 0.0006152 = 4.753 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 458 @ 0.000611 = 0.2798 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:58:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061116 = 2.6408 BTC [+]
Dec 16 13:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 542 @ 0.000611 = 0.3312 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:58:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11663 @ 0.00061099 = 7.126 BTC [-]
Dec 16 13:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7124 @ 0.00060935 = 4.341 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno.
Dec 16 14:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060969 = 2.6345 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17411 @ 0.00060935 = 10.6094 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4068 @ 0.00060866 = 2.476 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:10:06 <thestringpuller>	You don't like Murray Rothbard?
Dec 16 14:10:09 <thestringpuller>	awww
Dec 16 14:10:17 <thestringpuller>	where is vorhees when you need him
Dec 16 14:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3741 @ 0.00062173 = 2.3259 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10459 @ 0.00062633 = 6.5508 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea who he is.
Dec 16 14:23:21 <thestringpuller>	you'd love him
Dec 16 14:23:27 <thestringpuller>	and he'd love you if he was still alive
Dec 16 14:23:31 <thestringpuller>	(no homo)
Dec 16 14:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	hehe c ool.
Dec 16 14:23:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 16 14:23:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.40000, Best ask: 13.40001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.40000, 24 hour volume: 20990.42923800, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.44749
Dec 16 14:24:11 <thestringpuller>	he talks about how the money supply has been poisoned by the state
Dec 16 14:25:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 580 @ 0.15006733 = 87.0391 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:25:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 72450 @ 0.00339995 = 246.3264 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062616 = 2.7056 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142 @ 0.00062633 = 0.0889 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 393 @ 0.00062652 = 0.2462 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:26:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 457 @ 0.00062688 = 0.2865 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15987 @ 0.00062756 = 10.0328 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	heh. so it rebounded already ?
Dec 16 14:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 16 14:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00306352 / 0.0034 (212632 shares, 651.40 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00337216 / 0.0034 (5019919 shares, 16,928.01 BTC)
Dec 16 14:26:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062439 = 2.698 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10929 @ 0.00062422 = 6.8221 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 448529 @ 0.0034 = 1524.9986 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	o.O
Dec 16 14:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 16 14:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00329178 / 0.0034 (661161 shares, 2,176.40 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00337445 / 0.0034 (5468448 shares, 18,453.01 BTC)
Dec 16 14:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	wowza. the wall is gone.
Dec 16 14:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062721 = 2.7102 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8513 @ 0.00062756 = 5.3424 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6839 @ 0.00062759 = 4.2921 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 14:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder lol do you watch the ticker and log into irc when stuff happens ?
Dec 16 14:29:41 <Namjies>	What's the spring scrub?
Dec 16 14:29:55 <EskimoBob>	is S.DICE ready to free fall?
Dec 16 14:30:23 <Bugpowder>	what happened this time?
Dec 16 14:30:25 <Bugpowder>	Yes generally
Dec 16 14:30:29 <Bugpowder>	but not this time
Dec 16 14:30:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062752 = 2.7115 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14079 @ 0.00062759 = 8.8358 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the 34 wall is pretty much gone
Dec 16 14:30:56 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpex-accounts-spring-scrub-2013/
Dec 16 14:31:01 <Bugpowder>	ofuck
Dec 16 14:31:07 <Bugpowder>	what a tard that sold at 18
Dec 16 14:31:12 <Bugpowder>	ok time to raise my bid
Dec 16 14:31:15 <Bugpowder>	to .34
Dec 16 14:31:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya lol was funny earlier.
Dec 16 14:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	someone got like 30-40k shares.
Dec 16 14:32:57 <Namjies>	Hmm, who made the windows branch for pympex?
Dec 16 14:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131093.0 lol transcribing is now hot.
Dec 16 14:33:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies ageis ?
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Dec 16 14:35:59 <Namjies>	hmm
Dec 16 14:39:55 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: did kakobrekla wrote the assbot?
Dec 16 14:40:11 <kakobrekla>	yeah it was kakobrekla.
Dec 16 14:40:24 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: thank kakobrekla :)
Dec 16 14:40:35 <kakobrekla>	will do.
Dec 16 14:40:53 <EskimoBob>	I did not notice I had your name on the line from k+"tab"
Dec 16 14:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.EWTI] 306 @ 0.062088 = 18.9989 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:41:26 <EskimoBob>	do you have the code publicly available?
Dec 16 14:41:49 <kakobrekla>	nope
Dec 16 14:41:55 <EskimoBob>	:(
Dec 16 14:42:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INDQ] 118 @ 0.1898046 = 22.3969 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:42:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INDQ] 132 @ 0.18822917 = 24.8463 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:42:34 <EskimoBob>	greedy is writing a bot for LTC markets. I recommended assbot to him
Dec 16 14:43:22 <EskimoBob>	why invent the wheel if there is something as mature :) like assbot
Dec 16 14:44:32 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Dec 16 14:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00060866 / 0.00062199 / 0.00063995 (2639341 shares, 1,641.66 BTC), 30day: 0.00048504 / 0.00052868 / 0.00063995 (100948276 shares, 53,369.34 BTC)
Dec 16 14:44:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 16 14:44:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.20002, Best ask: 13.34900, Bid-ask spread: 0.14898, Last trade: 13.19897, 24 hour volume: 21718.03350525, 24 hour low: 13.19890, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.44090
Dec 16 14:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 13.44090* 0.00062199
Dec 16 14:44:46 <gribble>	0.008360105391
Dec 16 14:45:08 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Dec 16 14:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	and on that note, gnight all.
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Dec 16 14:46:30 <EskimoBob>	adios
Dec 16 14:47:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 25442 @ 0.0034 = 86.5028 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:53:42 <kakobrekla>	EskimoBob, assbot is based on a bot i wrote for another more complicated project and it contains a bunch of unnecessary stuff, theres plents of open bots around and preetymuch anything will need a degree of modification.
Dec 16 14:53:57 <kakobrekla>	plenty*
Dec 16 14:55:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0034 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062435 = 2.6978 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5921 @ 0.00062422 = 3.696 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13558 @ 0.00062159 = 8.4275 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 14:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062193 = 2.6874 BTC [+]
Dec 16 14:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3321 @ 0.00062159 = 2.0643 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:58:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13408 @ 0.00061584 = 8.2572 BTC [-]
Dec 16 14:59:51 <EskimoBob>	OK, makes sense
Dec 16 14:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0034 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Dec 16 15:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2482 @ 0.00062574 = 1.5531 BTC [+]
Dec 16 15:02:26 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE is gonna hit .0037 tonight
Dec 16 15:03:52 <EskimoBob>	or 0.0012 :)
Dec 16 15:04:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00062574 = 3.1913 BTC [+]
Dec 16 15:04:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062754 = 2.7116 BTC [+]
Dec 16 15:04:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20929 @ 0.00062759 = 13.1348 BTC [+]
Dec 16 15:04:29 <Bugpowder>	500k buying pressure vs 100k selling
Dec 16 15:05:00 <EskimoBob>	I personally like to see it go up until I get my shares back from GLBSE fiasco
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Dec 16 15:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062733 = 2.7107 BTC [-]
Dec 16 15:08:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062744 = 2.7112 BTC [+]
Dec 16 15:08:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3593 @ 0.00062759 = 2.2549 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 15:14:57 <Ukto>	jurov:
Dec 16 15:15:19 <Ukto>	are you a shareholder of gspdt? I think it was comming down to users asking for the exchange/s
Dec 16 15:16:21 <Ukto>	i remember looking back in the thead, and I had saw burnside going at it with someone else previously, and couldnt stand to read any of that crap, also, I did not think coinbr had any interest in mpex-indrect things heh
Dec 16 15:16:22 <jurov>	no
Dec 16 15:16:51 <Ukto>	that was partially why I threw a bit of a fit in the thread, was when non-shareholders were casting their votes on hehalf of other peoples money
Dec 16 15:17:15 <jurov>	original idea was deadterra is going to unwind whole operation
Dec 16 15:17:39 <jurov>	then went 180 degrees and is even considering me a competition
Dec 16 15:17:40 <Ukto>	yeah, he wanted to see it go for a little bit longer if it could be done w/o alot of work
Dec 16 15:17:58 <Ukto>	i have barely had a chance to be able to talk with him since this started
Dec 16 15:18:28 <Ukto>	for the whole dual exchange thing, I wrote a special custom claim system so users can pick between the exchanges so it wold take the work off of him
Dec 16 15:19:04 <Ukto>	we were supposed to go over it at 3am (my time) this morning, but he came down with a bad flue and other stuff, and I think with all the bickering, etc he may just want to shut it down again
Dec 16 15:19:18 <Ukto>	the idea was that importing to another exchange would be quick and easy and fair to the shareholders
Dec 16 15:19:42 <Ukto>	only a handfull of shareholders (to my understand) opted one way or the other for any exchange)
Dec 16 15:19:49 <Ukto>	as for me bribing ppl
Dec 16 15:20:25 <Ukto>	well, it is what it is. I wont deny that. But thats just business. I guess it is as slimey as a car dealership offering a gift card to come test drive a car. :P
Dec 16 15:21:15 <Ukto>	or all the stores fighting over blackfriday customers giving free door prizes, etc
Dec 16 15:22:04 <jurov>	never mind that. i just don't see how it would work.
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Dec 16 15:22:13 <Ukto>	what?
Dec 16 15:22:17 <Ukto>	the dual exchange thing?
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Dec 16 15:23:09 <jurov>	yes. all will have MPEx account and push the stuff around every time user moves?
Dec 16 15:23:12 <Ukto>	we were talking the other day, I really try to get along with everyone. I have no intentions to put anyone out.
Dec 16 15:23:25 <Ukto>	jurov: actually, he said for now there would be no transfers between
Dec 16 15:23:29 <Ukto>	it would be too much work
Dec 16 15:23:40 <Ukto>	people will choose the exchange they want, and thats that
Dec 16 15:24:09 <Ukto>	it may change at a later time, but shares issued on each are for good
Dec 16 15:24:41 <Ukto>	this doesnt mean someone else couldnt use my direct trade feature to act as transfer agent between sites either ;)
Dec 16 15:25:09 <Ukto>	burnside has one as well
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Dec 16 15:26:31 <Ukto>	but as I said, it was not my intention to take away your chances at the asset, did not even realise it.
Dec 16 15:27:01 <Ukto>	I was defenitely trying to get it over btct, as the already have at least one anchor asset, whereas BF has none.
Dec 16 15:27:05 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: can you post a URL
Dec 16 15:27:17 <EskimoBob>	if this is about BitVPS
Dec 16 15:27:24 <Ukto>	nah
Dec 16 15:27:27 <jurov>	how would that diret trade work?
Dec 16 15:27:28 <Ukto>	its about s.dice passthrough
Dec 16 15:27:55 <EskimoBob>	OK; I was reading that
Dec 16 15:28:14 <Ukto>	jurov: on my system you would use the API, or web interface to create a transfer code with optional message
Dec 16 15:28:18 <Ukto>	give it to whoever else to claim
Dec 16 15:28:36 <Ukto>	with btct.. you just specify account name and number of sharse. not sure if he has an api for that
Dec 16 15:28:43 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 16 15:28:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.25909, Best ask: 13.36850, Bid-ask spread: 0.10941, Last trade: 13.25908, 24 hour volume: 28753.83189932, 24 hour low: 13.13111, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.40546
Dec 16 15:28:45 <Ukto>	even my api for it is not public. yet. :P
Dec 16 15:29:24 <Ukto>	after BitFunder/myself started taking unfounded accusations in the thread, I think your convo got list. :/ sorry for hijacking that away
Dec 16 15:29:33 <Ukto>	lost*
Dec 16 15:29:53 <Ukto>	I did keep trying to end it
Dec 16 15:30:10 <jurov>	i hope you'll have it well thought out. so that someone won't claim "i have 100000 s.dice shares i want to transfer them at bf"
Dec 16 15:30:39 <Ukto>	thats why i wrote a custom claim site for terra
Dec 16 15:30:45 <Ukto>	for everyone to go to pick whcih exchange
Dec 16 15:30:59 <Ukto>	site/page
Dec 16 15:31:21 <jurov>	and how it ensures the backing asset is there? i have to push it to terra?
Dec 16 15:31:48 <Ukto>	wait, are you talking about the direct transfer thing?
Dec 16 15:31:52 <Ukto>	in that last question?
Dec 16 15:31:58 <Ukto>	or just init. claiming
Dec 16 15:32:46 <jurov>	No, let's go from the start. You claim there will some way to arbitrage between S.DICE and the passthrough?
Dec 16 15:33:06 <Ukto>	err
Dec 16 15:33:26 <Ukto>	i ment a possible method for trading share for share of GSDPT between BF and btct
Dec 16 15:34:21 <Ukto>	kind of how carnth does his ltc/btc-gold deal
Dec 16 15:34:22 <jurov>	The passthru operator will be the same at both?
Dec 16 15:34:27 <Ukto>	yes
Dec 16 15:34:46 <Ukto>	terra is going to manage the gsdpt asset on both exchanges
Dec 16 15:35:17 <Ukto>	he is taking on a lot of extra trouble to try to make both sides of shareholders happy that have put in their wantings for an exchange
Dec 16 15:35:36 <dub>	inb4 getting scammed
Dec 16 15:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4850 @ 0.00320001 = 15.52 BTC [-]
Dec 16 15:35:45 <Ukto>	dub: GL! :p
Dec 16 15:35:48 <jurov>	ah so then. So does not solve the liquidity problem apparent on GLBSE
Dec 16 15:36:05 <Ukto>	which was that?
Dec 16 15:36:15 <dub>	is there anythign terra has touched that isnt a scam?
Dec 16 15:36:16 <Ukto>	i stoped touched glbse in may
Dec 16 15:36:21 <Ukto>	afte my acocunt was mysteriously hacked
Dec 16 15:36:22 <jurov>	there was no arbitrage, so the price was 0.004 shortly after lauch
Dec 16 15:36:22 <Ukto>	w/o details
Dec 16 15:37:14 <jurov>	and it took soke time till deadterra bought more s.dice and threw it in
Dec 16 15:37:25 <jurov>	*some
Dec 16 15:37:35 <Ukto>	didnt thikn it was necessary for a PT issuer to do arbitrage with the real asset... just buy some of X @ SITEA, and put them up on SITEB for people to trade at a price they want
Dec 16 15:38:08 <Ukto>	surprised no one else didnt do a s.dice pt also
Dec 16 15:38:12 <Ukto>	to get some action
Dec 16 15:38:16 <Ukto>	supply and demand. :)
Dec 16 15:39:03 <jurov>	cause, is i said elsewhere, there's a risk i can put it out of business easily
Dec 16 15:39:31 <jurov>	plus there is a risk of additional counterparty
Dec 16 15:40:21 <Ukto>	hmm
Dec 16 15:40:37 <Ukto>	wouldnt that be the same, yet reversed for mircea's giga pt ?
Dec 16 15:40:42 <Ukto>	i dont think he was doing arb.
Dec 16 15:41:03 <jurov>	prolly yes
Dec 16 15:41:59 <Ukto>	to the benefit of the users, or himself? ;)
Dec 16 15:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2760 @ 0.00062759 = 1.7321 BTC [+]
Dec 16 15:48:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12323 @ 0.00062771 = 7.7353 BTC [+]
Dec 16 15:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062771 = 0.6277 BTC [+]
Dec 16 15:52:58 *	abracadabra is now known as abracadab
Dec 16 15:53:34 *	abracadab is now known as abracadabra
Dec 16 15:55:37 <PsychoticBoy>	good evening
Dec 16 16:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00062771 = 4.0173 BTC [+]
Dec 16 16:01:33 *	Pasha is now known as Cory
Dec 16 16:02:33 <jurov>	evening
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Dec 16 16:13:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4827 @ 0.00062771 = 3.03 BTC [+]
Dec 16 16:13:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2573 @ 0.00062774 = 1.6152 BTC [+]
Dec 16 16:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00062774 = 5.5555 BTC [+]
Dec 16 16:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10149 @ 0.00062774 = 6.3709 BTC [+]
Dec 16 16:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6601 @ 0.00062881 = 4.1508 BTC [+]
Dec 16 16:28:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006228 = 2.6911 BTC [-]
Dec 16 16:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12596 @ 0.00062264 = 7.8428 BTC [-]
Dec 16 16:28:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33 @ 0.00062226 = 0.0205 BTC [-]
Dec 16 16:29:10 <jurov>	I just invented new saying: The more counterparties, the merrier.
Dec 16 16:29:12 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1403805#msg1403805
Dec 16 16:42:19 <Namjies>	damn, I can't get pympex to work on windows after installing python.
Dec 16 16:42:40 <dub>	pimpex
Dec 16 16:44:02 <jurov>	perhaps gpg missing?
Dec 16 16:45:09 <dub>	is yo pimp a stank, greasy grimey ass motherfucker, try pimpex
Dec 16 16:45:46 <dub>	gets yo white flares whiter, purple gataz brighter
Dec 16 16:46:17 <Namjies>	I already have gpg. Says it cannot load gnupg module tho.
Dec 16 16:46:50 <Namjies>	I had the .exe compiled port of pympex made by ageis but it doesn't work anymore.
Dec 16 16:47:03 <Namjies>	With the url changed.
Dec 16 16:47:16 <Namjies>	And since it's compiled, I can't just go change that part.
Dec 16 16:48:03 <jurov>	i believe it would be trivial with hex editor
Dec 16 16:48:26 <jurov>	change the string and fill the rest with \0 's
Dec 16 16:49:21 <Namjies>	hmm...
Dec 16 16:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00062647 = 5.8888 BTC [+]
Dec 16 16:49:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006226 = 2.6903 BTC [-]
Dec 16 16:49:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1479 @ 0.00062226 = 0.9203 BTC [-]
Dec 16 16:52:35 <jurov>	i can do it for you for 0.5 BTC :D
Dec 16 16:53:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 15 @ 0.12037037 = 1.8056 BTC [-]
Dec 16 16:53:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MGCG] 37 @ 0.11949405 = 4.4213 BTC [-]
Dec 16 16:53:14 <kakobrekla>	ill do it for 5
Dec 16 16:53:19 <kakobrekla>	beat that
Dec 16 16:53:43 <jurov>	i'll do it free...but the file may become a bit larger
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Dec 16 16:55:58 <jurov>	lol dub
Dec 16 16:56:31 <jurov>	y u no use pimpex?
Dec 16 16:57:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00321219 = 8.9941 BTC [+]
Dec 16 16:59:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 28 @ 0.00321219 = 0.0899 BTC [+]
Dec 16 16:59:36 <kakobrekla>	cause he got ripped on whorSE
Dec 16 17:00:47 <Namjies>	Sorry jurov, already downloaded an hex editor and changed it.
Dec 16 17:00:55 <Namjies>	Thanks for the idea tho.
Dec 16 17:01:06 <kakobrekla>	Namjies is hex0r nao
Dec 16 17:01:11 <Namjies>	Now what will I do with that install of python...
Dec 16 17:01:25 *	jurov regrets a missed chance to plant a trojan
Dec 16 17:01:32 <kakobrekla>	lol
Dec 16 17:01:42 <Namjies>	xD
Dec 16 17:01:44 <jurov>	maybe i can do something with the python
Dec 16 17:02:28 <jurov>	}:-)
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Dec 16 17:04:33 <Bugpowder>	ok
Dec 16 17:04:45 <Bugpowder>	i am now officially all in on sdice
Dec 16 17:04:56 <Anduck>	Bugpowder
Dec 16 17:04:58 <Bugpowder>	let the ipo finally sell out
Dec 16 17:05:11 <Anduck>	if you win, share 5% of your winnings on here!
Dec 16 17:05:19 <Bugpowder>	lol
Dec 16 17:05:20 <Bugpowder>	lol
Dec 16 17:05:33 <Bugpowder>	i'm taking the house side :)
Dec 16 17:05:55 <kakobrekla>	its not a matter of if its a matter of when
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Dec 16 17:06:08 <kakobrekla>	^^
Dec 16 17:06:42 <Bugpowder>	8.8% gain after it sells out + another 4.4% in dividends so far
Dec 16 17:06:47 <Bugpowder>	this month
Dec 16 17:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062846 = 2.7156 BTC [+]
Dec 16 17:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1999 @ 0.00062881 = 1.257 BTC [+]
Dec 16 17:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00062887 = 3.5531 BTC [+]
Dec 16 17:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2230 @ 0.00062923 = 1.4032 BTC [+]
Dec 16 17:09:52 <jurov>	i'm too putting everything free into s.dice.. unless someone again puts some X.IDIFF.JUN at 0.0347, they were yummy
Dec 16 17:12:05 <jurov>	dunno what disaster must strike for the difficulty to stagnate so badly
Dec 16 17:12:05 <kakobrekla>	strangely enough, im staying out
Dec 16 17:12:51 <jurov>	out of s.dice? cause of the double spend problem?
Dec 16 17:13:24 <kakobrekla>	yeah out of s.dice
Dec 16 17:13:34 <kakobrekla>	not becauce of any particular problem
Dec 16 17:14:56 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Dec 16 17:15:04 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 211195 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 484 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 18 hours, 45 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3426231.59676539 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.368644926068
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Dec 16 17:18:35 <smickles>	;;ticker
Dec 16 17:18:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.31212, Best ask: 13.39997, Bid-ask spread: 0.08785, Last trade: 13.31213, 24 hour volume: 30962.61090850, 24 hour low: 13.13111, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.40002
Dec 16 17:19:31 <smickles>	these prices look far too close to the current epoch
Dec 16 17:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062238 = 2.6893 BTC [-]
Dec 16 17:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7105 @ 0.00062226 = 4.4212 BTC [-]
Dec 16 17:19:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062217 = 1.5554 BTC [-]
Dec 16 17:19:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9274 @ 0.00061803 = 5.7316 BTC [-]
Dec 16 17:19:43 <jcpham>	i sold last week
Dec 16 17:20:14 <kakobrekla>	i sell every week
Dec 16 17:20:15 <jcpham>	just a pinch
Dec 16 17:21:11 <smickles>	i mean, look at the vwap 1340002000, that june 18 this year
Dec 16 17:21:27 <smickles>	i'm liable to get confused
Dec 16 17:21:45 <kakobrekla>	hmm?
Dec 16 17:21:56 <kakobrekla>	there is no epoch timestamp in the gribble output
Dec 16 17:22:00 <Bugpowder>	once tier 3 sells out of sdice
Dec 16 17:22:00 <kakobrekla>	what are you looking at
Dec 16 17:22:02 <Bugpowder>	oh man
Dec 16 17:22:09 <Bugpowder>	we will see .005
Dec 16 17:22:32 <smickles>	kakobrekla: take the number to 8 decimals of precision and lose the '.'
Dec 16 17:22:51 <kakobrekla>	yeah i figured but thats not timestamp
Dec 16 17:22:57 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Dec 16 17:23:20 <smickles>	the current time stamp would be 13.55usd
Dec 16 17:23:40 <smickles>	well, 13.556966~etc
Dec 16 17:23:41 <dub>	the mayans were right!
Dec 16 17:23:45 <kakobrekla>	lol
Dec 16 17:24:17 <smickles>	kakobrekla: in my code, i have most numbers as ints where 100000000 represents 1.0
Dec 16 17:24:20 <kakobrekla>	so its going up by one satoshi dollar per second
Dec 16 17:24:27 <Bugpowder>	those BTC stats are wrong
Dec 16 17:24:28 <Namjies>	dub: time passes by, celestial bodies consistently?
Dec 16 17:24:36 <smickles>	so it looks like a timestamp to me :o
Dec 16 17:24:52 <kakobrekla>	smickles the way it must be.
Dec 16 17:25:01 <Bugpowder>	SHould be
Dec 16 17:25:01 <Bugpowder>	Difficulty	3,370,182 Next Difficulty in 1250 blocks 3,102,784
Dec 16 17:25:15 <kakobrekla>	no, it must be.
Dec 16 17:25:16 <smickles>	1356091932 is the magic price
Dec 16 17:25:34 <dub>	;;bc,diffchange
Dec 16 17:25:36 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -0.368644926068 % based on data since last change | -22.2232985297 % based on data for last three days
Dec 16 17:26:02 <smickles>	quick, buy x.idiff.dec!
Dec 16 17:26:13 <smickles>	;)
Dec 16 17:26:50 <Namjies>	Aren't I supposed to receive 5 credits each week for your blog, mircea?
Dec 16 17:26:58 <Namjies>	I can't read about the spring scrub
Dec 16 17:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062603 = 2.7051 BTC [+]
Dec 16 17:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00062601 = 9.2336 BTC [-]
Dec 16 17:28:00 <jurov>	smickles, nope
Dec 16 17:28:18 <smickles>	jurov: you get my joke :)
Dec 16 17:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3679 @ 0.0006204 = 2.2825 BTC [-]
Dec 16 17:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062782 = 2.7128 BTC [+]
Dec 16 17:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00062789 = 5.0859 BTC [+]
Dec 16 17:30:04 <jurov>	Namjies, http://www.proxies.by/cgi-proxy.htm
Dec 16 17:30:23 <jurov>	but disable js bo be on safe side
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Dec 16 17:35:48 <Namjies>	Ah... srubing empty accounts...
Dec 16 17:36:01 <Namjies>	I can hardly imagine my account ever reaching zero
Dec 16 17:37:15 <jurov>	i guess this is about expired accounts, when owner moved out to new one
Dec 16 17:37:42 <Namjies>	I suppose
Dec 16 17:38:39 <Bugpowder>	its on bitcointalk too
Dec 16 17:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21531 @ 0.00062192 = 13.3906 BTC [-]
Dec 16 17:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1606 @ 0.00062789 = 1.0084 BTC [+]
Dec 16 17:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00062033 = 6.5135 BTC [-]
Dec 16 17:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061806 = 2.6706 BTC [-]
Dec 16 17:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8479 @ 0.00061803 = 5.2403 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:02:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062761 = 2.7119 BTC [+]
Dec 16 18:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8894 @ 0.00062789 = 5.5845 BTC [+]
Dec 16 18:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00062828 = 8.5446 BTC [+]
Dec 16 18:02:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2035 @ 0.00062923 = 1.2805 BTC [+]
Dec 16 18:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062221 = 2.6886 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9879 @ 0.00062223 = 6.147 BTC [+]
Dec 16 18:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062052 = 2.6813 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10629 @ 0.00062049 = 6.5952 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:21:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062078 = 2.6824 BTC [+]
Dec 16 18:21:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10465 @ 0.00062049 = 6.4934 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 228 @ 0.00061803 = 0.1409 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:25:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062208 = 2.688 BTC [+]
Dec 16 18:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00062223 = 1.0447 BTC [+]
Dec 16 18:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061829 = 2.6716 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:30:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3519 @ 0.00061803 = 2.1748 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:30:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00061704 = 7.6513 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:30:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 660 @ 0.00061584 = 0.4065 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 18:36:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15582 @ 0.00061584 = 9.596 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:36:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7230 @ 0.00061196 = 4.4245 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19174 @ 0.00061196 = 11.7337 BTC [-]
Dec 16 18:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8726 @ 0.00061185 = 5.339 BTC [-]
Dec 16 19:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00061665 = 5.704 BTC [+]
Dec 16 19:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062202 = 2.6877 BTC [+]
Dec 16 19:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3279 @ 0.00062223 = 2.0403 BTC [+]
Dec 16 19:12:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061699 = 2.666 BTC [-]
Dec 16 19:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9065 @ 0.00061665 = 5.5899 BTC [-]
Dec 16 19:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 214 @ 0.00061185 = 0.1309 BTC [-]
Dec 16 19:21:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 760 @ 0.00061185 = 0.465 BTC [-]
Dec 16 19:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00060914 = 6.3351 BTC [-]
Dec 16 19:21:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3190 @ 0.0006088 = 1.9421 BTC [-]
Dec 16 19:30:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12859 @ 0.00060908 = 7.8322 BTC [+]
Dec 16 19:32:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062201 = 2.6877 BTC [+]
Dec 16 19:32:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2029 @ 0.00062223 = 1.2625 BTC [+]
Dec 16 19:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 471 @ 0.00321219 = 1.5129 BTC [+]
Dec 16 19:39:53 <thestringpuller>	smickles: buy x.idiff.dec for me
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Dec 16 19:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00062185 = 3.4824 BTC [-]
Dec 16 19:53:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062204 = 2.6878 BTC [+]
Dec 16 19:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 298 @ 0.00062223 = 0.1854 BTC [+]
Dec 16 19:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6926 @ 0.00062607 = 4.3362 BTC [+]
Dec 16 19:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3092 @ 0.00062923 = 1.9456 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 20:03:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062898 = 2.7178 BTC [-]
Dec 16 20:03:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5943 @ 0.00062923 = 3.7395 BTC [+]
Dec 16 20:03:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2486 @ 0.00062981 = 1.5657 BTC [+]
Dec 16 20:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00063 = 1.26 BTC [+]
Dec 16 20:03:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00063031 = 1.5443 BTC [+]
Dec 16 20:03:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00063034 = 9.4866 BTC [+]
Dec 16 20:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00063064 = 1.9235 BTC [+]
Dec 16 20:07:11 <kakobrekla>	hehe https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/12165_694348009038_1378797237_n.jpg
Dec 16 20:07:40 <kakobrekla>	dis old i see nao.
Dec 16 20:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062366 = 2.6948 BTC [-]
Dec 16 20:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8496 @ 0.00062332 = 5.2957 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 20:20:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.0006273 = 6.0848 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 20:26:54 <thestringpuller>	"No central authority"
Dec 16 20:36:49 <Bugpowder>	I CANNOT BELIVE IT WAS REMOVED
Dec 16 20:36:55 <Bugpowder>	I am gonna talk to Jimmy
Dec 16 20:38:07 <dub>	sadman jimmy
Dec 16 20:40:37 <Bugpowder>	I have a few badges
Dec 16 20:40:47 <Bugpowder>	I have suction with the WIki community
Dec 16 20:41:00 <Ukto>	like a hoover?
Dec 16 20:41:01 <Ukto>	:P
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Dec 16 20:45:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006306 = 2.7248 BTC [+]
Dec 16 20:45:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00063064 = 4.7929 BTC [+]
Dec 16 20:45:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14579 @ 0.00063116 = 9.2017 BTC [+]
Dec 16 20:55:16 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> smickles: buy x.idiff.dec for me << I can't do that in good faith
Dec 16 20:55:29 <smickles>	!ticker x.idiff.dec
Dec 16 20:55:30 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.DEC] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 (1 shares, 0.03 BTC)
Dec 16 20:55:39 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Dec 16 20:55:44 <gribble>	timed out
Dec 16 20:55:47 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Dec 16 20:55:52 <gribble>	timed out
Dec 16 20:55:56 <smickles>	assbot > gribble
Dec 16 20:56:37 <smickles>	thestringpuller: anyway, we know exactly how much idiff.dec will be worth at settlement. and no one is selling it for anything less than that
Dec 16 20:57:26 <smickles>	infact, i'm the only one selling it
Dec 16 20:57:42 <smickles>	and I'm selling it for 10% over what it will be worth
Dec 16 20:58:41 <smickles>	;;bc,stats
Dec 16 20:58:56 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Dec 16 20:59:35 <smickles>	;;later tell mircea_popescu MKFUT not war
Dec 16 20:59:36 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 16 21:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00062793 = 1.978 BTC [-]
Dec 16 21:17:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1829 @ 0.00325278 = 5.9493 BTC [+]
Dec 16 21:17:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1327 @ 0.00320001 = 4.2464 BTC [-]
Dec 16 21:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1268 @ 0.00320001 = 4.0576 BTC [-]
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Dec 16 21:21:28 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 16 21:22:55 <thestringpuller>	i hope this hack works
Dec 16 21:23:04 <thestringpuller>	I broke disc 1 of my final fantasy 7
Dec 16 21:23:28 <thestringpuller>	maybe if I burn a copy of the iso and boot the PS1 with disc 2 and do a disc swap it may work...
Dec 16 21:23:34 <thestringpuller>	<.<;;
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Dec 16 21:26:21 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: I still have my modded ps1 somewhere >,>
Dec 16 21:26:37 <Ukto>	I actually have 2 copies of 7
Dec 16 21:26:45 <Ukto>	friend gave me theirs
Dec 16 21:27:07 <Ukto>	i always wanted to try the pc verison, ppl told me they made some additions to it
Dec 16 21:27:28 <thestringpuller>	i'll give you 2 btc for disc 1
Dec 16 21:27:34 <thestringpuller>	like for real no joke
Dec 16 21:27:36 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 16 21:27:54 <Ukto>	alright, I'll look around in the garage for it tomorrow
Dec 16 21:28:09 <Ukto>	should be in its 4-disc jewel case
Dec 16 21:28:12 <Ukto>	both of em
Dec 16 21:28:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00063043 = 5.1695 BTC [+]
Dec 16 21:28:54 <thestringpuller>	i always thought FF7 was overhyped but I've been reading details i missed when i first played through it when I was 9
Dec 16 21:29:23 <thestringpuller>	ahh I love bitcoin world
Dec 16 21:29:27 <thestringpuller>	you can buy anything with it
Dec 16 21:29:30 <Ukto>	oh yeah.. i had a blast when i was a teen
Dec 16 21:29:41 <Ukto>	ti only played it once through... but i spent some.. 100+ hrs to get there
Dec 16 21:29:49 <thestringpuller>	HAHA
Dec 16 21:29:50 <thestringpuller>	I feel you
Dec 16 21:29:56 <Ukto>	I had my first job at the time, making $9/hr working 60+hrs a week
Dec 16 21:29:58 <Ukto>	doing phoen support
Dec 16 21:30:03 <Ukto>	(for phones that rarely rang)
Dec 16 21:30:14 <Ukto>	and  no bils.. i had a crap ton to blow
Dec 16 21:30:23 <Ukto>	i bought an lcd head display
Dec 16 21:30:41 <Ukto>	to watch movies and played ff7 and 8 with it on
Dec 16 21:30:50 <Ukto>	way back in what... 95?
Dec 16 21:31:00 <Ukto>	still have the headset somewhere.. i spent like $500 on it
Dec 16 21:31:17 <Ukto>	been wanting one of the newer ones w/ oled.. eyestrain does get you after a while, but the oled ones supposedly dont have it
Dec 16 21:31:27 <Ukto>	sony has a badass HD oled unit
Dec 16 21:31:34 <Ukto>	I just wish it had headtracking built in
Dec 16 21:31:44 <Ukto>	would be great for many games then
Dec 16 21:31:58 <Ukto>	or at least a small addon of some sort
Dec 16 21:31:59 <Guest27877>	i think you need this http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game
Dec 16 21:32:15 <thestringpuller>	...
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Dec 16 21:32:28 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: ff7 came out in 97
Dec 16 21:32:34 <thestringpuller>	ff8 came out in I think 99
Dec 16 21:32:37 <thestringpuller>	maybe 2000
Dec 16 21:32:43 <thestringpuller>	;;google final fantasy 8
Dec 16 21:32:44 <gribble>	Final Fantasy VIII - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VIII>; Amazon.com: Final Fantasy VIII: Unknown: Video Games: <http://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-VIII-Playstation/dp/B0000296O5>; Final Fantasy VIII FAQs, Walkthroughs, and Guides for PlayStation ...: <http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197343-final-fantasy-viii/faqs>
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Dec 16 21:33:18 <thestringpuller>	yea 99
Dec 16 21:33:20 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 16 21:33:26 <thestringpuller>	damn time flies
Dec 16 21:33:38 <thestringpuller>	now squaresoft fuckin up
Dec 16 21:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3227 @ 0.00063043 = 2.0344 BTC [+]
Dec 16 21:34:36 <Ukto>	i do agree though... none of the later games had that same epic story feel that 7 did
Dec 16 21:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1124 @ 0.00063116 = 0.7094 BTC [+]
Dec 16 21:34:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9249 @ 0.00063157 = 5.8414 BTC [+]
Dec 16 21:35:12 <Ukto>	7 really draws you into the story.. and the mood.. TONS of custom mood music, not a handfull of tracks like now
Dec 16 21:35:27 <thestringpuller>	FFX came damn close
Dec 16 21:35:35 <Ukto>	tidus, right?
Dec 16 21:35:39 <thestringpuller>	yea
Dec 16 21:35:43 <Ukto>	i didnt feel that much
Dec 16 21:35:47 <Ukto>	mebbe half...
Dec 16 21:35:53 <thestringpuller>	yea it was too hollywood
Dec 16 21:35:55 <Ukto>	i got right past the cyber city area
Dec 16 21:36:09 <Ukto>	to some giant whale thing or something
Dec 16 21:36:12 <Ukto>	and i lost interested
Dec 16 21:36:14 <Ukto>	interest*
Dec 16 21:36:25 <thestringpuller>	hahaha
Dec 16 21:36:48 <thestringpuller>	oh man they don't make games like they used to
Dec 16 21:36:57 <thestringpuller>	I wish they did...i wish they did
Dec 16 21:52:13 <thestringpuller>	thanks ukto
Dec 16 21:52:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20851 @ 0.00063157 = 13.1689 BTC [+]
Dec 16 21:52:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1349 @ 0.0006317 = 0.8522 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 21:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4251 @ 0.0006317 = 2.6854 BTC [+]
Dec 16 21:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00063196 = 1.1375 BTC [+]
Dec 16 21:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00063264 = 6.105 BTC [+]
Dec 16 21:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12149 @ 0.00063266 = 7.6862 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 22:12:38 <smickles>	;;ticker
Dec 16 22:12:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.31127, Best ask: 13.43100, Bid-ask spread: 0.11973, Last trade: 13.30405, 24 hour volume: 44367.91893869, 24 hour low: 13.13111, 24 hour high: 13.62000, 24 hour vwap: 13.34416
Dec 16 22:12:55 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 16 22:12:56 <gribble>	13.35
Dec 16 22:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7845 @ 0.00063266 = 4.9632 BTC [+]
Dec 16 22:17:21 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 16 22:17:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.0032933 / 0.0034 (689013 shares, 2,269.13 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.0033742 / 0.0034 (5507863 shares, 18,584.64 BTC)
Dec 16 22:23:20 <smickles>	only 45k at .0034
Dec 16 22:26:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00063147 = 6.1884 BTC [-]
Dec 16 22:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	and i just processed a ream of deposits
Dec 16 22:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5106 @ 0.00063266 = 3.2304 BTC [+]
Dec 16 22:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22614 @ 0.00063266 = 14.307 BTC [+]
Dec 16 22:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00325109 = 3.2511 BTC [+]
Dec 16 22:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00325109 = 0.3251 BTC [+]
Dec 16 22:38:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00325109 = 0.6502 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 22:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	Why can't anyone break this code?  they claim it might have involved a "one time pad"
Dec 16 22:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	uh... can't we super-compute the code on out of there real quick?
Dec 16 22:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	lmao micon is such a tard.
Dec 16 22:53:47 <thestringpuller>	???
Dec 16 22:54:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00325109 = 2.7634 BTC [+]
Dec 16 22:54:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00325704 = 0.4886 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 22:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063155 = 2.7289 BTC [-]
Dec 16 22:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00063147 = 3.7257 BTC [-]
Dec 16 22:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54957.msg1404011#msg1404011
Dec 16 23:00:15 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131156.0
Dec 16 23:00:36 <dub>	he must have some broke ass friends if anyone is going to jump at $1
Dec 16 23:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, i'd be surprised if 1 in 10`000 facebook accounts actually has a human being behind them
Dec 16 23:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	what he did is basically akin to generating a number of random email addresses, sending them mail, waiting for answers.
Dec 16 23:01:35 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: i've already had my staff contact him, one of them got a tongue-lashing for not following my instructions to do it a long time ago
Dec 16 23:01:50 <dub>	well, all of my fb friends are real
Dec 16 23:01:58 <dub>	on my real fb account that is ;)
Dec 16 23:02:08 <coingenuity>	thanks for the heads up, though
Dec 16 23:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Dec 16 23:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	dub lol. POINT IN CASE
Dec 16 23:03:18 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: i actually just gave the staff member in question a tongue lashing about this
Dec 16 23:03:24 <coingenuity>	he's in trouble now >.>
Dec 16 23:03:39 <dub>	mircea_popescu likes to tounge lash his employees too
Dec 16 23:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00062885 = 7.2003 BTC [-]
Dec 16 23:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00062885 = 9.8101 BTC [-]
Dec 16 23:04:51 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity the risk is always that there's going to be some unhappy customer wedged into some obscure corner
Dec 16 23:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	so if i see something i say something sorta thing
Dec 16 23:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	i know it costs me plenty of money to try and keep on top of things and i'm only moderately successful at it.
Dec 16 23:05:39 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: actually, he's high on my priority list- the manufacturer of the product he ordered has been doing a total restructuring of their supply chain so i'm having to work with their delay
Dec 16 23:05:58 <coingenuity>	the issue is that i told my staff to tell him what was going on, but they failed to do so and now he's worried
Dec 16 23:06:17 <coingenuity>	either way, the person in charge of talking to him has been yelled at, that customer will be sorted shortly
Dec 16 23:07:15 <coingenuity>	(it should also be noted that he's the only cust still waiting on that product, we luckily had hundreds of oz on hand when the manufacturer took a dump so caught the delay preemptorily)
Dec 16 23:07:39 <coingenuity>	needless to say, i am far from amused with that particular manufacturer at the moment >.>
Dec 16 23:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00062896 = 2.7045 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:08:40 <coingenuity>	and, i appreciate you bringing it to my attention, as always- i keep tabs personally on every single order so if someone starts to feel neglected, i like to hear about it
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Dec 16 23:15:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3019 @ 0.00325704 = 9.833 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:15:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3900 @ 0.00331655 = 12.9345 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:15:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4450 @ 0.00332543 = 14.7982 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:15:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3778 @ 0.00333037 = 12.5821 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:15:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 30180 @ 0.0034 = 102.612 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 23:20:44 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity sure :)
Dec 16 23:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ^^
Dec 16 23:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	aaaand... its gone
Dec 16 23:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15147 @ 0.0034 = 51.4998 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00340395 = 7.4887 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:22:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 153 @ 0.00341965 = 0.5232 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	omfg liftoff!
Dec 16 23:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108 @ 0.00062885 = 0.0679 BTC [-]
Dec 16 23:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20392 @ 0.00062766 = 12.7992 BTC [-]
Dec 16 23:24:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1097 @ 0.00341965 = 3.7514 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:24:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00344363 = 5.5098 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:24:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.0034661 = 6.5856 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:24:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5722 @ 0.00346716 = 19.8391 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:24:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1154 @ 0.00347241 = 4.0072 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2203 @ 0.00349493 = 7.6993 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:24:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3150 @ 0.0035011 = 11.0285 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 27174 @ 0.003695 = 100.4079 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 16 23:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00331734 / 0.003695 (798140 shares, 2,647.71 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00337604 / 0.003695 (5616990 shares, 18,963.22 BTC)
Dec 16 23:25:19 <smickles>	oh my
Dec 16 23:25:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00062896 = 4.2769 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol i guess everyone can now book the 3 / 34 gain
Dec 16 23:26:46 <smickles>	does that say 1day low of .0018?
Dec 16 23:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	yah someone sold it yest
Dec 16 23:26:59 <smickles>	wow
Dec 16 23:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	someone ended up with a 40k ish block gifted at 18
Dec 16 23:27:51 <smickles>	why couldn't that have been my buy at .00032 D:
Dec 16 23:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 16 23:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	odd, bugpowder was saying the same thing
Dec 16 23:28:21 <smickles>	oh wait
Dec 16 23:28:29 <smickles>	mine is the .00003
Dec 16 23:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	"I have a webhosting that is of alright speeds in terms of loading pages and stuff, " lol
Dec 16 23:28:58 <smickles>	at one point in time, that was the best bid
Dec 16 23:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	did it ever get any fill ?
Dec 16 23:29:11 <smickles>	none
Dec 16 23:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	well was worth a shot
Dec 16 23:29:53 <smickles>	yeah, it was at the height of that mr.big criticism too
Dec 16 23:29:55 <dub>	next stop 1btc
Dec 16 23:29:59 <smickles>	i was sure i'd get some
Dec 16 23:30:00 <dub>	plox
Dec 16 23:30:07 <bonafide>	10mil btc patriots win
Dec 16 23:30:11 <bonafide>	lolll
Dec 16 23:30:52 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: care to say what the current volatility is according to mpoebot?
Dec 16 23:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol nope
Dec 16 23:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	"My wife and I don't have many services to sell here, except for this.  She started out as a small B cup, then had a BA surgery (350cc) to bring her to a D, then another about 18 months ago  (600cc), to bring her to a DDD.  Since then she has really started to take care of her body and has worked out a bunch."
Dec 16 23:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	heh. people of ddditcoin
Dec 16 23:33:53 <dub>	is this the asian breast implant thread?
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Dec 16 23:34:22 <mircea_popescu>	i think it must be
Dec 16 23:34:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1511 @ 0.00062896 = 0.9504 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:41:12 <thestringpuller>	phys delivery is set for january 2013
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Dec 16 23:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	eee ?
Dec 16 23:46:23 <thestringpuller>	what's eee?
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Dec 16 23:47:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3318 @ 0.00062896 = 2.0869 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:47:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6086 @ 0.00063266 = 3.8504 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1996 @ 0.00063283 = 1.2631 BTC [+]
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Dec 16 23:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062797 = 2.7135 BTC [-]
Dec 16 23:51:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1171 @ 0.00062773 = 0.7351 BTC [-]
Dec 16 23:51:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4758 @ 0.00062766 = 2.9864 BTC [-]
Dec 16 23:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10269 @ 0.00062746 = 6.4434 BTC [-]
Dec 16 23:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063256 = 2.7333 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5348 @ 0.00063283 = 3.3844 BTC [+]
Dec 16 23:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3131 @ 0.00063312 = 1.9823 BTC [+]
Dec 17 00:02:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062748 = 2.7113 BTC [-]
Dec 17 00:02:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2331 @ 0.00062746 = 1.4626 BTC [-]
Dec 17 00:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.0006273 = 6.1789 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 00:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00062928 = 2.8318 BTC [+]
Dec 17 00:13:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063283 = 2.7345 BTC [+]
Dec 17 00:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4867 @ 0.00063312 = 3.0814 BTC [+]
Dec 17 00:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	excitement
Dec 17 00:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	As many of you know, I'm reaching 18 years old this year, and even though the Bitcoinica venture was extremely exciting and eye-opening for a teenager, I have to admit that I could have displayed a higher level of maturity and professionalism in some matters.
Dec 17 00:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	Also, I also have to admit that a lot of the business circumstances were well beyond my scope of understanding. I assure you that I have learned the relevant lessons and I will do a much better job in my next project — NameTerrific.
Dec 17 00:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	ahh this is so great.
Dec 17 00:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006316 = 2.7291 BTC [-]
Dec 17 00:23:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10629 @ 0.00063144 = 6.7116 BTC [-]
Dec 17 00:33:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063268 = 2.7338 BTC [+]
Dec 17 00:33:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.00063302 = 14.0214 BTC [+]
Dec 17 00:33:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9252 @ 0.00063312 = 5.8576 BTC [+]
Dec 17 00:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063145 = 2.7285 BTC [-]
Dec 17 00:38:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10393 @ 0.00063144 = 6.5626 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 00:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.00062969 = 0.5138 BTC [-]
Dec 17 00:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1346 @ 0.00063088 = 0.8492 BTC [+]
Dec 17 00:50:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3415 @ 0.0006273 = 2.1422 BTC [-]
Dec 17 00:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00062653 = 9.7739 BTC [-]
Dec 17 00:50:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2331 @ 0.00062541 = 1.4578 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 00:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Dec 17 00:54:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00060866 / 0.00062191 / 0.00063703 (2516188 shares, 1,564.85 BTC), 30day: 0.00048504 / 0.00053022 / 0.00063995 (99764148 shares, 52,897.21 BTC)
Dec 17 00:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 17 00:55:04 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.0033162 / 0.003695 (787254 shares, 2,610.69 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00337604 / 0.003695 (5616990 shares, 18,963.22 BTC)
Dec 17 00:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.bvps
Dec 17 00:55:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0022 / 0.00319418 / 0.0067 (181977 shares, 581.27 BTC)
Dec 17 00:58:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 5 @ 0.0067 = 0.0335 BTC [+]
Dec 17 00:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.bvps
Dec 17 00:58:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.0067 / 0.0067 / 0.0067 (5 shares, 0.03 BTC), 30day: 0.0022 / 0.00319428 / 0.0067 (181982 shares, 581.30 BTC)
Dec 17 01:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5590 @ 0.00062586 = 3.4986 BTC [+]
Dec 17 01:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00062586 = 3.1669 BTC [+]
Dec 17 01:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063147 = 3.9151 BTC [+]
Dec 17 01:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063292 = 2.7348 BTC [+]
Dec 17 01:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4819 @ 0.00063312 = 3.051 BTC [+]
Dec 17 01:10:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062571 = 2.7037 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:10:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4519 @ 0.00062541 = 2.8262 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:10:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00062516 = 5.8765 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:10:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1860 @ 0.00062422 = 1.161 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 01:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 640 @ 0.00062422 = 0.3995 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15554 @ 0.00062332 = 9.6951 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6556 @ 0.00062324 = 4.086 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:28:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15144 @ 0.00062324 = 9.4383 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1206 @ 0.00062308 = 0.7514 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11644 @ 0.00062308 = 7.2551 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00062237 = 5.2279 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:30:38 <smickles>	WTS: O.BTCUSD.P10000T @ 8.61 BTC
Dec 17 01:30:56 <Ukto>	:/
Dec 17 01:32:53 <smickles>	;;ticker
Dec 17 01:32:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.14892, Best ask: 13.14893, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.14892, 24 hour volume: 56690.90771471, 24 hour low: 13.01000, 24 hour high: 13.62000, 24 hour vwap: 13.30401
Dec 17 01:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 887 / 13.1
Dec 17 01:36:51 <gribble>	67.7099236641
Dec 17 01:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00355493 = 15.1085 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	should be moar like 67 btc smickles
Dec 17 01:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise i just buy em and execute on the spot.
Dec 17 01:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1427 @ 0.00062175 = 0.8872 BTC [-]
Dec 17 01:50:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063242 = 3.921 BTC [+]
Dec 17 01:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063281 = 2.7344 BTC [+]
Dec 17 01:54:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3315 @ 0.00063312 = 2.0988 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063246 = 2.7329 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:00:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13523 @ 0.00063242 = 8.5522 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3006 @ 0.00062361 = 1.8746 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063295 = 2.735 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00063312 = 1.8544 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063305 = 2.7354 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:04:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8637 @ 0.00063312 = 5.4683 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7642 @ 0.00063354 = 4.8415 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:11:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006238 = 2.6954 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:12:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7279 @ 0.00062361 = 4.5393 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00063294 = 4.9053 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3521 @ 0.0006333 = 2.2298 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:14:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.0006333 = 0.5066 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12458 @ 0.00063354 = 7.8926 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6384 @ 0.00063407 = 4.0479 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1190 @ 0.0006343 = 0.7548 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063422 = 2.7405 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5341 @ 0.0006343 = 3.3878 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:22:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062392 = 2.696 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10179 @ 0.00062361 = 6.3477 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063162 = 2.7292 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:26:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17579 @ 0.00063169 = 11.1045 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 02:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 760 @ 0.00063169 = 0.4801 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4134 @ 0.0006343 = 2.6222 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00063463 = 7.6473 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5173 @ 0.00063515 = 3.2856 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062602 = 2.705 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:39:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 629 @ 0.00062593 = 0.3937 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062627 = 2.7061 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21979 @ 0.00062593 = 13.7573 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006262 = 2.7058 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4542 @ 0.00062593 = 2.843 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:50:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5493 @ 0.00062361 = 3.4255 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:50:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7544 @ 0.00062215 = 4.6935 BTC [-]
Dec 17 02:57:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063503 = 2.744 BTC [+]
Dec 17 02:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18229 @ 0.00063515 = 11.5781 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:11:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062248 = 2.6897 BTC [-]
Dec 17 03:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3056 @ 0.00062215 = 1.9013 BTC [-]
Dec 17 03:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8203 @ 0.0006221 = 5.1031 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 03:14:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063483 = 2.7431 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:14:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2403 @ 0.00063515 = 1.5263 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:14:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6285 @ 0.0006352 = 3.9922 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063494 = 2.7436 BTC [-]
Dec 17 03:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16545 @ 0.0006352 = 10.5094 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:16:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1708 @ 0.00063544 = 1.0853 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.12854229 = 128.5423 BTC [-]
Dec 17 03:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.09560885 = 95.6089 BTC [-]
Dec 17 03:23:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 300 @ 0.15390384 = 46.1712 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063543 = 2.7457 BTC [-]
Dec 17 03:28:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20192 @ 0.00063544 = 12.8308 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1648 @ 0.00063573 = 1.0477 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00063573 = 1.494 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:40:20 *	UncleScrooge (~UncleScro@199.26.85.34) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 17 03:47:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 702 @ 0.00063573 = 0.4463 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:47:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00063588 = 9.4746 BTC [+]
Dec 17 03:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5048 @ 0.000636 = 3.2105 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 04:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062799 = 2.7135 BTC [-]
Dec 17 04:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00062768 = 3.3135 BTC [-]
Dec 17 04:18:33 *	Cory (~Cory@unaffiliated/cory) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 17 04:21:21 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, what is the minimal amount now to buy mpoe bond? 100BTC?
Dec 17 04:23:12 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 17 04:23:17 <Ukto>	hey jurov
Dec 17 04:23:48 <jurov>	o/
Dec 17 04:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063592 = 2.7478 BTC [+]
Dec 17 04:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.000636 = 1.3222 BTC [+]
Dec 17 04:27:05 *	leotreasure (~leotreasu@110-174-7-79.tpgi.com.au) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 17 04:37:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1568 @ 0.00337553 = 5.2928 BTC [-]
Dec 17 04:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.0006289 = 11.5403 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 04:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062777 = 2.7126 BTC [-]
Dec 17 04:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14179 @ 0.00062768 = 8.8999 BTC [-]
Dec 17 04:57:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006286 = 2.7162 BTC [+]
Dec 17 04:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.0006289 = 3.742 BTC [+]
Dec 17 05:00:27 *	SupaDupa (~ident@79.141.173.79) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 17 05:00:31 <SupaDupa>	sup hos?
Dec 17 05:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4629 @ 0.00063361 = 2.933 BTC [+]
Dec 17 05:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006279 = 2.7132 BTC [-]
Dec 17 05:04:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062768 = 4.4251 BTC [-]
Dec 17 05:06:15 *	SupaDupa is now known as AssWobbles
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Dec 17 05:07:42 *	AssWobbles (~ident@79.141.173.79) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 17 05:07:43 *	AssWobbles is now known as SupaDupa
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Dec 17 05:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062802 = 2.7137 BTC [+]
Dec 17 05:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000628 = 2.7136 BTC [-]
Dec 17 05:15:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8322 @ 0.00062768 = 5.2236 BTC [-]
Dec 17 05:18:50 *	AssWobbles (~asswobble@79.141.173.79) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 17 05:24:01 *	AssWobbles has quit (Excess Flood)
Dec 17 05:24:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063588 = 2.7476 BTC [+]
Dec 17 05:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21129 @ 0.000636 = 13.438 BTC [+]
Dec 17 05:24:14 *	AssWobbles (~asswobble@79.141.173.79) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 17 05:28:08 *	AssWobbles has quit (Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
Dec 17 05:30:01 <EskimoBob>	AssWob, wtf is wrong with you? Can't you us a fkn comma?!
Dec 17 05:30:39 *	AssWobbles (~asswobble@67.221.255.12) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 17 05:38:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063569 = 2.7468 BTC [-]
Dec 17 05:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8729 @ 0.000636 = 5.5516 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 05:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063069 = 2.7252 BTC [-]
Dec 17 05:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16623 @ 0.00063042 = 10.4795 BTC [-]
Dec 17 05:50:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063064 = 2.725 BTC [+]
Dec 17 05:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2099 @ 0.00063042 = 1.3233 BTC [-]
Dec 17 05:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 480 @ 0.00062768 = 0.3013 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 06:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063566 = 2.7467 BTC [+]
Dec 17 06:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10829 @ 0.000636 = 6.8872 BTC [+]
Dec 17 06:12:38 *	darkee| (~darkee@gateway/tor-sasl/darkee) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 17 06:18:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006351 = 2.7443 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:18:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4822 @ 0.00063509 = 3.0624 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 340 @ 0.00062768 = 0.2134 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13467 @ 0.00062642 = 8.436 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063567 = 2.0977 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 06:22:10 *	darkee| is now known as darkee
Dec 17 06:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7133 @ 0.00062642 = 4.4683 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062309 = 4.9224 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6217 @ 0.00062251 = 3.8701 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1883 @ 0.00062251 = 1.1722 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18097 @ 0.0006221 = 11.2581 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00062128 = 4.6596 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5320 @ 0.00062089 = 3.3031 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:33:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00063567 = 0.649 BTC [+]
Dec 17 06:33:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13541 @ 0.00063583 = 8.6098 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 06:37:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062109 = 2.6837 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:37:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13508 @ 0.00062089 = 8.387 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 06:40:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10272 @ 0.00062089 = 6.3778 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6960 @ 0.00062042 = 4.3181 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:41:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006358 = 2.7473 BTC [+]
Dec 17 06:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 659 @ 0.00063583 = 0.419 BTC [+]
Dec 17 06:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11170 @ 0.000636 = 7.1041 BTC [+]
Dec 17 06:49:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006357 = 2.7469 BTC [-]
Dec 17 06:52:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7007 @ 0.000636 = 4.4565 BTC [+]
Dec 17 06:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.000636 = 6.5826 BTC [+]
Dec 17 06:58:22 <EskimoBob>	this is nice. Mpex has now 2 stocks, that get trades. Good job :)
Dec 17 07:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12714 @ 0.00063571 = 8.0824 BTC [-]
Dec 17 07:07:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062053 = 2.6813 BTC [-]
Dec 17 07:07:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12499 @ 0.00062042 = 7.7546 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 07:13:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5665 @ 0.00061785 = 3.5001 BTC [-]
Dec 17 07:22:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063372 = 2.7383 BTC [+]
Dec 17 07:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7972 @ 0.00063403 = 5.0545 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 07:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19657 @ 0.00063582 = 12.4983 BTC [+]
Dec 17 07:24:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 843 @ 0.00063155 = 0.5324 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 07:52:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063596 = 2.748 BTC [+]
Dec 17 07:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5659 @ 0.000636 = 3.5991 BTC [+]
Dec 17 07:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00063601 = 6.0421 BTC [+]
Dec 17 07:52:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2470 @ 0.00063603 = 1.571 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 07:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5407 @ 0.00063603 = 3.439 BTC [+]
Dec 17 08:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063164 = 2.7293 BTC [-]
Dec 17 08:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8192 @ 0.00063155 = 5.1737 BTC [-]
Dec 17 08:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8887 @ 0.0006154 = 5.4691 BTC [-]
Dec 17 08:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063587 = 2.7476 BTC [+]
Dec 17 08:19:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10523 @ 0.00063603 = 6.6929 BTC [+]
Dec 17 08:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10206 @ 0.0006361 = 6.492 BTC [+]
Dec 17 08:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061544 = 2.6593 BTC [-]
Dec 17 08:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12288 @ 0.0006154 = 7.562 BTC [-]
Dec 17 08:30:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19691 @ 0.00061423 = 12.0948 BTC [-]
Dec 17 08:48:13 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 17 08:48:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.15754, Best ask: 13.23870, Bid-ask spread: 0.08116, Last trade: 13.15754, 24 hour volume: 78551.08864463, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.22707
Dec 17 08:49:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063605 = 2.7484 BTC [+]
Dec 17 08:49:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8174 @ 0.0006361 = 5.1995 BTC [+]
Dec 17 09:03:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062819 = 2.7144 BTC [-]
Dec 17 09:03:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12279 @ 0.00062811 = 7.7126 BTC [-]
Dec 17 09:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00348748 = 6.2775 BTC [+]
Dec 17 09:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00351386 = 9.8388 BTC [+]
Dec 17 09:16:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2121 @ 0.00062811 = 1.3322 BTC [-]
Dec 17 09:34:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00062294 = 3.6753 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 09:37:24 <thestringpuller>	time travel
Dec 17 09:37:48 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 17 09:37:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.22102, Best ask: 13.22103, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.22102, 24 hour volume: 82987.55553313, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.23176
Dec 17 09:38:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10888 @ 0.00062294 = 6.7826 BTC [-]
Dec 17 09:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062164 = 2.6861 BTC [-]
Dec 17 09:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7679 @ 0.0006216 = 4.7733 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 09:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062289 = 2.6915 BTC [+]
Dec 17 09:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41 @ 0.00062294 = 0.0255 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 09:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3088 @ 0.00062705 = 1.9363 BTC [+]
Dec 17 09:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062162 = 2.686 BTC [-]
Dec 17 09:50:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18121 @ 0.0006216 = 11.264 BTC [-]
Dec 17 09:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-btc-million/
Dec 17 09:54:44 <mircea_popescu>	someone put that up on reddit
Dec 17 09:57:18 <pigeons>	i'll just pm it to inaba
Dec 17 09:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062802 = 2.7137 BTC [+]
Dec 17 09:57:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11671 @ 0.00062835 = 7.3335 BTC [+]
Dec 17 09:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2456 @ 0.0006287 = 1.5441 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 10:03:37 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons lol
Dec 17 10:03:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062855 = 2.716 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:03:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16344 @ 0.0006287 = 10.2755 BTC [+]
Dec 17 10:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5270 @ 0.0006361 = 3.3522 BTC [+]
Dec 17 10:03:56 <jurov>	EskimoBob, you nailed it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1405017#msg1405017
Dec 17 10:04:19 <jurov>	oh, hello mircea_popescu, we are perpetrating something with Ukto
Dec 17 10:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	heya
Dec 17 10:04:37 <Ukto>	>:P~
Dec 17 10:04:41 <jurov>	and want to know, what is minimal investment into MPOE bonds
Dec 17 10:04:43 <jurov>	?
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Dec 17 10:06:43 <jurov>	50 or 100btc?
Dec 17 10:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	usagi  : "Through a mathematical trick I have been able to"
Dec 17 10:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	you know you gotta read it.
Dec 17 10:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov 100
Dec 17 10:08:07 <jurov>	and January ones can be bought until December 29 midnight, yes?
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Dec 17 10:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Dec 17 10:11:28 <Ukto>	hey mircea_popescu
Dec 17 10:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	heya
Dec 17 10:11:35 <Ukto>	didnt smickles's asset on glbse make some good profit?
Dec 17 10:12:09 <mircea_popescu>	pretty good yea
Dec 17 10:12:11 <Ukto>	and one of the arb bot guys..
Dec 17 10:12:19 <Ukto>	pr "I can't actually think of one that did make money, off the top of my head. Which?
Dec 17 10:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	course most glbse idiots were too busy buying the scams to put much money in
Dec 17 10:12:29 <Ukto>	mebbe she was just trolling
Dec 17 10:12:35 <Ukto>	true that
Dec 17 10:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	a right, the sc2m thing did make money huh
Dec 17 10:12:45 <pigeons>	mpoe-pr trolling?
Dec 17 10:13:09 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: where is this post by usagi? is it the one jurov just gave us?
Dec 17 10:13:45 <mircea_popescu>	lmao ahahaha
Dec 17 10:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	Look at how btct.co, litecoinglobal.com, bitfunder.com, cryptostocks.com and so on get their clients.
Dec 17 10:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062806 = 2.7138 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8979 @ 0.00062786 = 5.6376 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller no, it was one of his numerously amusing threads, something about a liquidator
Dec 17 10:15:16 <B0g4r7>	I wouldn't touch anything floated by usage through a 10-element proxy chain.
Dec 17 10:15:20 <B0g4r7>	usagi
Dec 17 10:15:42 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: what, you dont like bribery?
Dec 17 10:15:43 <Ukto>	;)
Dec 17 10:16:00 <Ukto>	eerrr "Promotions" >,>
Dec 17 10:16:02 <Ukto>	<,<
Dec 17 10:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i have no problem with it, just, the guy is so completely confused he's amusing.
Dec 17 10:19:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4500 @ 0.00369 = 16.605 BTC [+]
Dec 17 10:31:37 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: could you find that thread perhaps? when you have time that is.
Dec 17 10:32:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: my investors would rather build a commodity market instead of strictly futures physical delivery so that will be added to the plan.
Dec 17 10:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126560.msg1404972#msg1404972
Dec 17 10:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9521 @ 0.00062786 = 5.9779 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 10:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7486 @ 0.00062512 = 4.6796 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:37:35 <thestringpuller>	ty
Dec 17 10:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/17/australian-woman-gets-worker-compensation-benefits-for-injury-during-sex-on/
Dec 17 10:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7800 @ 0.00354739 = 27.6696 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00348391 = 12.1937 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3010 @ 0.00335248 = 10.091 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00333474 = 10.0042 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:39:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00333086 = 14.1562 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00332979 = 6.3266 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5302 @ 0.00330789 = 17.5384 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4400 @ 0.00327318 = 14.402 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00324542 = 12.9817 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:40:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00320002 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:40:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 12338 @ 0.00320001 = 39.4817 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 10:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5443 @ 0.00320001 = 17.4177 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:41:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2855 @ 0.00319749 = 9.1288 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2952 @ 0.0031637 = 9.3392 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5950 @ 0.0030817 = 18.3361 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 454 @ 0.00180001 = 0.8172 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:41:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6346 @ 0.0018 = 11.4228 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	wow
Dec 17 10:41:50 <thestringpuller>	man
Dec 17 10:41:56 <thestringpuller>	someone keeps gifting it
Dec 17 10:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder, does somebody figure this is some sort of attack or something ?
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Dec 17 10:42:08 <thestringpuller>	why would you sell that low?
Dec 17 10:42:18 <mircea_popescu>	no clue.
Dec 17 10:42:35 <jcpham>	what is happening
Dec 17 10:42:36 <thestringpuller>	the ipo tier one was .003 correct?
Dec 17 10:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	32 34 37
Dec 17 10:43:09 <pigeons>	some people can't figure out the user-friendliness of mpex so they place a market order?
Dec 17 10:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons that is also possible.
Dec 17 10:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	reading the stuff romanians post in btctalk. lulzy.
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Dec 17 10:48:48 <Bugpowder>	FFS, another S.DICE dump to .0018
Dec 17 10:49:44 <thestringpuller>	bugpowder missed winning the sdice sell off lotto 3 times already lolol
Dec 17 10:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	you miss all the good stuff
Dec 17 10:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	wait this is the 3rd ? i knew of one yest
Dec 17 10:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 270635 @ 0.00369 = 998.6432 BTC [+]
Dec 17 10:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 17 10:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00339706 / 0.003695 (1130674 shares, 3,840.97 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00338786 / 0.003695 (5977543 shares, 20,251.09 BTC)
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Dec 17 10:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062169 = 2.6863 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:52:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6405 @ 0.0006216 = 3.9813 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00061737 = 0.8026 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2974 @ 0.00061695 = 1.8348 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 10:53:55 <Bugpowder>	I don't have any capital left
Dec 17 10:53:59 <Bugpowder>	to place bids
Dec 17 10:55:00 <Bugpowder>	Only 2 dumps I think  http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.DICE
Dec 17 10:56:12 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder sell house, sell wife
Dec 17 10:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	buy stocks!
Dec 17 10:56:23 <Bugpowder>	I have plenty of capital.
Dec 17 10:56:29 <Bugpowder>	Just not in bitcoins
Dec 17 10:56:36 <Bugpowder>	I am not allowed to buy more coins
Dec 17 10:56:41 <Bugpowder>	Hence
Dec 17 10:56:49 <Bugpowder>	I must invest them to make more
Dec 17 10:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 17 10:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	who'se rules ?
Dec 17 10:57:00 <Bugpowder>	Wife
Dec 17 10:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	how much for the little girl ?
Dec 17 10:57:27 <Bugpowder>	No gipsy
Dec 17 10:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 17 10:58:18 <Bugpowder>	The big question is
Dec 17 10:58:26 <Bugpowder>	will Tier 3 hold
Dec 17 10:58:31 <Bugpowder>	till divvy payment
Dec 17 10:59:12 <mircea_popescu>	still two weeks + to go
Dec 17 10:59:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061706 = 2.6663 BTC [+]
Dec 17 10:59:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7106 @ 0.00061695 = 4.384 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00061479 = 9.1604 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:59:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6473 @ 0.00061423 = 3.9759 BTC [-]
Dec 17 10:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	if it doesn't tho, it could be mayhem
Dec 17 10:59:40 <Bugpowder>	Yah.  I did not expect T2 to go this early in the div cycle
Dec 17 10:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	mpex passes 1mn and 2mn mkt cap in the same month
Dec 17 11:00:10 <Bugpowder>	I already fucked up the MPOE trade
Dec 17 11:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Dec 17 11:00:16 <Bugpowder>	not going to bail on S.DICE
Dec 17 11:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 17 11:00:38 <mircea_popescu>	i tell you tho, this is starting to emerge, my trading hat is humming in delight
Dec 17 11:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	wonderful times.
Dec 17 11:00:51 <Bugpowder>	(.00063-.00038)*1280000
Dec 17 11:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (.00063-.00038)*1280000
Dec 17 11:01:02 <gribble>	320
Dec 17 11:01:15 <Bugpowder>	;;calc (.00063-.00038)*1280000
Dec 17 11:01:16 <gribble>	320
Dec 17 11:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	a not so bad, for some reason i had it in my head you missed out on 1.5-2k btc
Dec 17 11:01:35 <Bugpowder>	I was not all in
Dec 17 11:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	course s.mpoe is trading more like 61
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Dec 17 11:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14w2wo/come_get_some_free_bitcoins/
Dec 17 11:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	thing gets ~800 comments
Dec 17 11:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	total 1 btc in tips
Dec 17 11:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	it's remarkable how cheap the internet is.
Dec 17 11:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	(which obviously means worthless)
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Dec 17 11:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ALCG] 170 @ 0.09331194 = 15.863 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 11:19:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062324 = 2.693 BTC [+]
Dec 17 11:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2801 @ 0.00062342 = 1.7462 BTC [+]
Dec 17 11:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3828 @ 0.00063252 = 2.4213 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 11:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.MHGG] 100 @ 0.25889911 = 25.8899 BTC
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Dec 17 11:32:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061732 = 2.6674 BTC [-]
Dec 17 11:34:07 <Ukto>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.SDICE <-- Satoshi Dice passthrough by Gamma SatoshiDice Fund (DeaDTerra) now online and trading
Dec 17 11:39:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14329 @ 0.00061725 = 8.8446 BTC [-]
Dec 17 11:40:37 <pigeons>	oh it was me who bought the dics cheap, from old orders
Dec 17 11:40:52 <pigeons>	some of it
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Dec 17 11:49:26 <thestringpuller>	ukto did you bribe deadterra
Dec 17 11:49:48 <Ukto>	no, he's using both BF and btct
Dec 17 11:49:52 <Ukto>	when burnside gets him set up
Dec 17 11:50:05 <Ukto>	and letting shareholders decide which they want via the claim process
Dec 17 11:50:40 <Ukto>	so far more than 9 shrehodlers have claimed, BF has got the majority.
Dec 17 11:50:57 <Ukto>	but thats prolly the last I will mention of such things >,>
Dec 17 11:51:00 <Ukto>	might be taken the wrong way
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Dec 17 11:56:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8911 @ 0.0006171 = 5.499 BTC [-]
Dec 17 12:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol wd
Dec 17 12:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto what's g ?
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Dec 17 12:03:45 <Ukto>	Gamma
Dec 17 12:03:57 <Ukto>	what terra calls it
Dec 17 12:04:11 <Ukto>	Gamma SatoshiDice Pass Through
Dec 17 12:04:22 <Ukto>	might have him rename it to G.SDICEPT
Dec 17 12:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	bah that's S.DICE.GAMMA or w/e
Dec 17 12:04:33 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 17 12:04:42 <Ukto>	mine is doing 'group'.(name)
Dec 17 12:04:49 <Ukto>	'group'.'name'
Dec 17 12:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	what's group ?
Dec 17 12:05:01 <Ukto>	so if can be G.SBLAH
Dec 17 12:05:07 <Ukto>	or w/e if he does more assets
Dec 17 12:05:29 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2012/12/17/tragedy-as-entertainment/
Dec 17 12:05:32 <jcpham>	current events
Dec 17 12:05:40 <Ukto>	so if you were to be an issue for say 4 things, you could name them all MP.(name) or whatever
Dec 17 12:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham good ppint.
Dec 17 12:07:12 <jcpham>	it's the best point
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Dec 17 12:07:37 <Ukto>	"News" - "TRAGEDY AS ENTERTAINMENT"
Dec 17 12:07:38 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 12:07:53 <jcpham>	i'm not trying to be offensive, i swear
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Dec 17 12:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	aha!
Dec 17 12:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14zxqr/mpex_over_1_million_btc_total_market_cap/
Dec 17 12:09:00 <Ukto>	i am serious
Dec 17 12:09:06 <Ukto>	thats why I dont pay too much to the news
Dec 17 12:09:16 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: plugger. you already pasted that :P
Dec 17 12:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	i did ?
Dec 17 12:09:21 <Ukto>	its nifty tho
Dec 17 12:09:28 <Ukto>	oooh
Dec 17 12:09:29 <Ukto>	reddit
Dec 17 12:09:30 <Ukto>	my bad
Dec 17 12:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	see, the bounty of social media
Dec 17 12:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	you can plug crap fifty times
Dec 17 12:09:41 *	Ukto puts mustard on his hat and eats it
Dec 17 12:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	tho tbh i think this is pretty major.
Dec 17 12:10:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00061725 = 4.5677 BTC [+]
Dec 17 12:10:35 *	OneFixt shorts the MPEX index
Dec 17 12:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	OneFixt actually come to think about it, maybe that's what the guy selling s.dice down to 18 was doing
Dec 17 12:11:25 <OneFixt>	can i borrow some shares"? =)
Dec 17 12:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Dec 17 12:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	then again, you thought they were too expensive when they were doing 20ish iirc.
Dec 17 12:13:11 <OneFixt>	sure, but i wouldn't have acted on it back then
Dec 17 12:13:27 <OneFixt>	markets can be too expensive or too cheap for longer than most of us can stay solvent
Dec 17 12:15:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: would you allow me to run decentralized commodities on mpex? if i get a plan in order
Dec 17 12:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller depends what exactly that means
Dec 17 12:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	OneFixt that's for sure.
Dec 17 12:17:37 <thestringpuller>	i want to do procurement contracts
Dec 17 12:19:14 <thestringpuller>	im having analysis run on supply prices for like cocoa and wheat and other things from small local farms
Dec 17 12:19:25 <thestringpuller>	even soy but soy is regulated...
Dec 17 12:19:33 <thestringpuller>	monsanto....
Dec 17 12:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	that wasn't very clear
Dec 17 12:20:45 <thestringpuller>	im on a mobile
Dec 17 12:20:51 <thestringpuller>	i apologize
Dec 17 12:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	np
Dec 17 12:20:56 <smickles>	OneFixt: I have shares you can borrow :)
Dec 17 12:20:57 <thestringpuller>	will you be around later?
Dec 17 12:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Dec 17 12:21:11 <OneFixt>	hehe, i'm thinking about it
Dec 17 12:21:31 <thestringpuller>	smickles: put what you're holding for me into s.mpoe and hold
Dec 17 12:21:42 <EskimoBob>	yawn ... James is still compiling the lists
Dec 17 12:21:46 <thestringpuller>	lock me out from selling it until february
Dec 17 12:21:54 <EskimoBob>	this will be over soon
Dec 17 12:22:00 <smickles>	;;ident thestringpuller
Dec 17 12:22:01 <gribble>	Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
Dec 17 12:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	who's james ?
Dec 17 12:22:12 <smickles>	thestringpuller: ident first ;)
Dec 17 12:22:18 <thestringpuller>	i will ident this evening, lol
Dec 17 12:22:23 <thestringpuller>	i love ot smickles
Dec 17 12:22:29 <thestringpuller>	best btc broker EVAR
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Dec 17 12:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller  he's made me plenty of money.
Dec 17 12:23:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6241 @ 0.00061896 = 3.8629 BTC [+]
Dec 17 12:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9893 @ 0.0006171 = 6.105 BTC [-]
Dec 17 12:23:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4936 @ 0.00061423 = 3.0318 BTC [-]
Dec 17 12:23:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1230 @ 0.00061337 = 0.7544 BTC [-]
Dec 17 12:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	aww man, you're buying the wrong way.
Dec 17 12:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, onefixt gave me an interesting idea.
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Dec 17 12:36:05 <smickles>	thestringpuller: just in case it's actually you, I'll reserve a price of 0.00061896
Dec 17 12:38:29 <mircea_popescu>	how does this reserve price trick  work ?
Dec 17 12:40:04 <smickles>	I guarantee him shares at a price of 0.00061896 in the amount his balance on account will allow
Dec 17 12:40:18 <thestringpuller>	cause he has shares on hand
Dec 17 12:40:34 <thestringpuller>	he will likely just assign those shares to me at said price
Dec 17 12:40:36 <smickles>	that way, if the price skyrockets, thestringpuller doesn't lose out just 'cause he can't ident right now
Dec 17 12:41:54 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Dec 17 12:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	nice.
Dec 17 12:43:27 <thestringpuller>	brb
Dec 17 12:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00061337 = 13.5555 BTC [-]
Dec 17 12:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4178 @ 0.00062313 = 2.6034 BTC [+]
Dec 17 12:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3819 @ 0.00348764 = 13.3193 BTC [-]
Dec 17 12:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 224865 @ 0.00369 = 829.7519 BTC [+]
Dec 17 12:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 160576 @ 0.003695 = 593.3283 BTC [+]
Dec 17 12:45:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10740 @ 0.0037 = 39.738 BTC [+]
Dec 17 12:46:02 <smickles>	so it's at .0037 now?
Dec 17 12:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	Dec 17 06:25:18 <smickles>	oh my
Dec 17 12:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	Dec 17 06:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol i guess everyone can now book the 3 / 34 gain
Dec 17 12:49:43 <jurov>	*cue mothership docking clip*
Dec 17 12:54:36 <mircea_popescu>	ding ding ding clonk
Dec 17 12:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061791 = 2.67 BTC [-]
Dec 17 12:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14679 @ 0.00061819 = 9.0744 BTC [+]
Dec 17 13:00:08 <Bugpowder>	HORY SHIT
Dec 17 13:00:56 <Bugpowder>	I gotta say... I am feeling really fucking good about my S.DICE holdings
Dec 17 13:01:21 <jurov>	fucking good? so.. better than sex?
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Dec 17 13:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061354 = 2.6511 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:06:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1070 @ 0.00061337 = 0.6563 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:06:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3659 @ 0.00061233 = 2.2405 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:06:43 <Doffx>	Yay, I got my Sdice pass-through shares claimed on Bitfunder. Now if I could just sell them on mpex
Dec 17 13:06:55 <smickles>	< Bugpowder> I gotta say... I am feeling really fucking good about my S.DICE holdings << I gotta say... I'm feeling really fucking good about mistyping a command and buying 50btc of S.DICE a while ago
Dec 17 13:07:36 <smickles>	that said, I hope to never transpose the price and the amount on a command again
Dec 17 13:08:27 <jurov>	Doffx, deadterra insinuated this is possible, ask him directly
Dec 17 13:08:50 <jurov>	oh you already claimed them
Dec 17 13:08:57 <smickles>	oh Doffx !
Dec 17 13:09:02 <Doffx>	Yeah, was I not supposed to>
Dec 17 13:09:08 <smickles>	can you prove that you control an address for me :)
Dec 17 13:09:17 <Doffx>	Yeah
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Dec 17 13:10:30 <thestringpuller>	why is sdice so high? are the jan divs gonna be nuts?
Dec 17 13:12:04 <Bugpowder>	high
Dec 17 13:12:07 <Bugpowder>	4.5%
Dec 17 13:12:24 <thestringpuller>	4.5% dividends?
Dec 17 13:12:39 <Bugpowder>	from the acitivity in the first 16days alone
Dec 17 13:12:44 <smickles>	heh, yeah, I'm sure some people are preparing to short after divs are paid
Dec 17 13:12:52 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 17 13:12:52 <Bugpowder>	Currntly up 14,500 coins
Dec 17 13:12:58 <thestringpuller>	gotcha
Dec 17 13:13:27 <iz>	what's the current block number for the bitcoin blockchain?
Dec 17 13:13:32 <iz>	212404?
Dec 17 13:13:38 <thestringpuller>	mpoe seems like its as stable as a bond
Dec 17 13:13:43 <thestringpuller>	;;bc
Dec 17 13:13:44 <gribble>	Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
Dec 17 13:14:00 <thestringpuller>	whats the command
Dec 17 13:14:13 <iz>	;;help bc,sincelastblock
Dec 17 13:14:13 <gribble>	(bc,sincelastblock <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Time since last block: [elapsed [math calc [time %s] - [re "m/[0-9\.]{2,}/" [re m/time.*,/ [web fetch [format concat http://blockexplorer.com/rawblock/ [web fetch http://blockexplorer.com/q/latesthash]]]]]]]".
Dec 17 13:14:19 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 14500/100000000/.0037
Dec 17 13:14:19 <gribble>	0.0391891891892
Dec 17 13:14:21 <iz>	;;bc,sincelastblock
Dec 17 13:14:22 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 day, 6 hours, 8 minutes, and 11 seconds
Dec 17 13:14:31 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,lastblock
Dec 17 13:14:32 <gribble>	Error: "bc,lastblock" is not a valid command.
Dec 17 13:14:36 <smickles>	woah, long form tslb
Dec 17 13:14:38 <smickles>	;;tslb
Dec 17 13:14:39 <iz>	i'm questioning the validity of the bot's data
Dec 17 13:14:39 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,count
Dec 17 13:14:40 <gribble>	Error: "bc,count" is not a valid command.
Dec 17 13:14:41 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 34 seconds
Dec 17 13:14:47 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 17 13:15:03 <iz>	;;bc,blocks
Dec 17 13:15:04 <gribble>	212402
Dec 17 13:15:22 <smickles>	iz: i've never seen the bc,lastblock but ;;tslb seems to work
Dec 17 13:15:27 <iz>	this is the latest block on block explorer: http://blockexplorer.com/b/212404
Dec 17 13:15:36 <Doffx>	Ill have to see if Deadterra can still buy those shares
Dec 17 13:15:37 <iz>	the timestamp is 2012-12-16 13:04:49 in UTC and my computer says today is Mon Dec 17 18:10:04 UTC 2012
Dec 17 13:15:40 <Doffx>	err sell for me
Dec 17 13:15:55 <iz>	smickles: is tslb really working?  or maybe that is broken
Dec 17 13:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	cirrent block is 212552
Dec 17 13:16:14 <iz>	okay, thank you mircea_popescu
Dec 17 13:16:22 <iz>	exactly the info i needed
Dec 17 13:16:29 <thestringpuller>	its broked
Dec 17 13:16:32 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 17 13:16:33 <smickles>	iz: tslb seems to be in sync with blockchain and my local machine
Dec 17 13:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx i would imagine you can be delivered shares no ?
Dec 17 13:17:02 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: actually, it's 212553
Dec 17 13:17:12 <smickles>	even as of the time of your writing
Dec 17 13:17:36 <Doffx>	I have them on bitfunder now, I really have no clue what my options are.
Dec 17 13:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	smickles :p
Dec 17 13:18:46 <smickles>	;;tslb
Dec 17 13:18:48 <gribble>	Time since last block: 29 seconds
Dec 17 13:19:01 <smickles>	yeah, tslb works fine, it seems
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Dec 17 13:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	you know smickles that icon really does make the bottle look like a dildo
Dec 17 13:23:27 <Doffx>	Oh cool someone bought some of my shares already
Dec 17 13:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	quite the arbitrage hole there
Dec 17 13:23:46 <Doffx>	Where is the bitfunder bot?
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Dec 17 13:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	i guess someone will end up making a share transfer agreemend and end up unwinding most of the passthrough huh
Dec 17 13:24:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143 @ 0.00061817 = 0.0884 BTC [+]
Dec 17 13:24:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5725 @ 0.00061819 = 3.5391 BTC [+]
Dec 17 13:24:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7549 @ 0.00062348 = 4.7067 BTC [+]
Dec 17 13:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.00365174 = 11.6856 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00340932 = 10.228 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3592 @ 0.00340931 = 12.2462 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:27:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.00320001 = 160.0005 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:27:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0032 = 16 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:27:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 208 @ 0.00180002 = 0.3744 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:28:05 <Bugpowder>	mootherfucker
Dec 17 13:29:17 <Doffx>	Haha, I figured that might happen.
Dec 17 13:29:29 <jurov>	heh
Dec 17 13:30:18 <Bugpowder>	welll
Dec 17 13:30:35 <Bugpowder>	actually, only  208 shares bot at .0018
Dec 17 13:30:39 <jurov>	Doffx, there's no such thing as bitfunder bot. deadterra decided to consider even coinbr as a competition
Dec 17 13:30:39 <Bugpowder>	big whoop
Dec 17 13:31:01 <jurov>	so they divided the "cake" between bitfunder and btct only
Dec 17 13:31:04 <Doffx>	Oh I was kidding around.
Dec 17 13:31:17 <Doffx>	What was this 10 BTC thing with Bitfunder?
Dec 17 13:31:25 <jurov>	?
Dec 17 13:31:36 <Doffx>	Said something about 10btc being split but I couldnt find info on what it was talking about
Dec 17 13:31:58 <jurov>	oh, hairs were been split aplenty
Dec 17 13:32:29 <Doffx>	I use Hashpower, and weexchange, and have talked to Ukto so I went with bitfunder.
Dec 17 13:32:46 <Doffx>	I already sold 100 shares woo!
Dec 17 13:41:51 <Doffx>	I don’t know anything about the other exchanges, I have not been keeping up with the bitcoin word these days.
Dec 17 13:44:19 <Ukto>	here
Dec 17 13:44:22 *	Ukto reads up
Dec 17 13:45:06 <Ukto>	Doffx: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.0
Dec 17 13:45:23 <Ukto>	terra didn't formally announce it in the thread out of uh.. fairness? to the other exchange
Dec 17 13:45:31 <Ukto>	but allowed me to notice ppl on it at teh claims page
Dec 17 13:45:36 <smickles>	alright, time to put in a low bid on s.dice
Dec 17 13:45:39 <smickles>	again
Dec 17 13:47:21 <Ukto>	Doffx: once things are settled and terra says go, 10btc will be split out amongst the BF claimers (claim data is maintained)
Dec 17 13:47:35 <Doffx>	Oh, sweet.
Dec 17 13:47:44 <Doffx>	Thanks!
Dec 17 13:47:49 <Ukto>	so the fewer shreholders pick BF, the moreyou get :P
Dec 17 13:48:33 <Doffx>	Haha, id rather more picked it, id give them my share to make it more succesful.
Dec 17 13:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	giving things never made anything more successful.
Dec 17 13:52:32 <Doffx>	I think you understud my meaning.
Dec 17 13:54:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0023177 = 2.7812 BTC [+]
Dec 17 13:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6000 @ 0.00282866 = 16.972 BTC [+]
Dec 17 13:55:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061297 = 2.6486 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:55:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00061276 = 10.5088 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26679 @ 0.00061233 = 16.3364 BTC [-]
Dec 17 13:56:19 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i'm now facinated by the differences in option valuation between mpoebot and the one i've written
Dec 17 13:56:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i will be at a terminal soon
Dec 17 13:57:00 <thestringpuller>	with a real keyboard
Dec 17 13:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	smickles is it a lot ?
Dec 17 13:58:26 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: no, it's subtle
Dec 17 13:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	interesting
Dec 17 13:59:10 <smickles>	it's why I asked about the volatility last night, the calc of that could be the difference
Dec 17 13:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	possibly ya
Dec 17 14:00:40 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I'm here. Ahhh it feels good to type on a real keyboard. So many more WPM's
Dec 17 14:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006232 = 2.6928 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:00:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062343 = 2.6938 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	wb
Dec 17 14:00:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2608 @ 0.00062348 = 1.626 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:00:51 <thestringpuller>	ty
Dec 17 14:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 200 @ 0.09066871 = 18.1337 BTC [-]
Dec 17 14:01:51 <smickles>	d'ya'll think people are shorting s.dice on this double spend news?
Dec 17 14:01:53 <thestringpuller>	okay so as we talked about with physically delivery of futures, I started analyzing the possibility of physical delivery for procurement. Since BTC volume is so low it would end up being procurement for local stores and not full fledged chains.
Dec 17 14:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 525 @ 0.12333198 = 64.7493 BTC [-]
Dec 17 14:02:23 <smickles>	C13 ?!! C12! where's my C14! :P
Dec 17 14:02:41 <thestringpuller>	smickles: that made me burst out laughing in this store
Dec 17 14:02:53 <smickles>	lol
Dec 17 14:03:13 <mircea_popescu>	someone should make a top of the weirdest trades on mpex
Dec 17 14:03:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061266 = 2.6473 BTC [-]
Dec 17 14:03:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061256 = 2.6469 BTC [-]
Dec 17 14:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7062 @ 0.00061233 = 4.3243 BTC [-]
Dec 17 14:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4396 @ 0.00061184 = 2.6896 BTC [-]
Dec 17 14:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	the sdice for 18 is not quite as big as the idiff.jun for 0.03
Dec 17 14:03:47 <smickles>	really?
Dec 17 14:03:56 <smickles>	there's an idiff.jun for .03?
Dec 17 14:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	a trade flashed. 70 units.
Dec 17 14:04:06 <mircea_popescu>	yest
Dec 17 14:04:17 <smickles>	oh
Dec 17 14:04:39 <jurov>	yes it was VERY yummy
Dec 17 14:04:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15513 @ 0.0037 = 57.3981 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:05:14 <jurov>	dunno who put it there, but i'd get gay with them
Dec 17 14:06:01 <thestringpuller>	don't have enough money as is jurov?
Dec 17 14:06:10 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is that still unclear?
Dec 17 14:06:10 <smickles>	lol
Dec 17 14:06:53 <smickles>	i'm not sure that an individual can have too much money to benefit by more
Dec 17 14:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller well, what diff does it make if it's chains or stores ?
Dec 17 14:07:18 <Doffx>	Wow, 0037 now
Dec 17 14:07:20 <thestringpuller>	volume, chains expect a certain price
Dec 17 14:07:20 <smickles>	large amounts should just shift their timescales beyond their own expected lifetime
Dec 17 14:07:24 <thestringpuller>	start small and move up
Dec 17 14:07:30 <thestringpuller>	for instance with the cocoa example
Dec 17 14:07:56 <thestringpuller>	most people who would want end-user procurement of a commodities contract would be someone likely to distribute to a small coffee shop
Dec 17 14:08:18 <thestringpuller>	they would be willing to pay a little over 100
Dec 17 14:08:26 <thestringpuller>	err
Dec 17 14:08:30 <thestringpuller>	over 1%*
Dec 17 14:08:48 <thestringpuller>	on market price as long as they could sustain end user prices in the coffee shops and bakeries
Dec 17 14:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	what makes you think that most buyers of the future would buy to have it delivered ?
Dec 17 14:09:12 <smickles>	there is a lot of markup to eat into on coffee
Dec 17 14:09:20 <thestringpuller>	not futures spot commodities
Dec 17 14:10:23 <thestringpuller>	but I suppose if someone who had a future that matured and had a distribution network may want delivery
Dec 17 14:10:39 <thestringpuller>	but I'm more talking about being able to purchase commodites at a market price via btc
Dec 17 14:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	what sense does it make to have a centralised spot market when nobody can take centralised delivery ?
Dec 17 14:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	spot markets evolved historically and make sense in conjunction with a delivery spot.
Dec 17 14:11:11 <thestringpuller>	elaborate a bit
Dec 17 14:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7849 @ 0.0037 = 29.0413 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:11:26 <smickles>	;;define "SPOT"
Dec 17 14:11:27 <gribble>	Error: "define" is not a valid command.
Dec 17 14:12:02 <thestringpuller>	oh in that case would delivery in BTC be slightly decentralized due to it's internet nature?
Dec 17 14:12:15 <thestringpuller>	more so than railroad crossings or ports
Dec 17 14:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	much more so.
Dec 17 14:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	basically this'd be more like bitmit for cocoa
Dec 17 14:12:38 <smickles>	;;ident
Dec 17 14:12:38 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Dec 17 14:12:45 <jurov>	oh and i *swear* i saw X.IDIFF.SEP selling for 2 satoshi, but once i got ahold of my coinbr acct, it vanished
Dec 17 14:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	which isn't a bad thing, but it doesn't make sense to lump it all under a generic name
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Dec 17 14:13:23 <thestringpuller>	in a sense it wouldn't but in a sense it would?
Dec 17 14:13:46 <thestringpuller>	the example I mulled around in my head was a case where MPEX would have a listing for something like Cocoa
Dec 17 14:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006232 = 2.6928 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:14:23 <thestringpuller>	that listing would correlate to any number of suppliers that constitute a BTC union
Dec 17 14:15:21 <thestringpuller>	so there would be likely 2 factors in pricing: geographical location of the supplier (i.e. freight) and 2. the base price the supplier is offering on his commodities
Dec 17 14:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	which is what makes this slightly inadequate for a spot-type exchange traded thing
Dec 17 14:15:57 <thestringpuller>	in a spot exchange the supplier delivers to the exchange no?
Dec 17 14:16:16 <thestringpuller>	i feel like chicago has a lot of train yards and people deal with it there
Dec 17 14:16:35 <mircea_popescu>	nah, exchange does not take delivery.
Dec 17 14:16:44 <mircea_popescu>	clearing house clears the deliveries both ways
Dec 17 14:16:57 <thestringpuller>	but usually to specifc freight yards no?
Dec 17 14:17:07 <thestringpuller>	which seem to be influenced by the location of the exchange
Dec 17 14:17:26 <smickles>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 17 14:17:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00351473 / 0.0037 (1526236 shares, 5,364.31 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00340547 / 0.0037 (6468105 shares, 22,026.96 BTC)
Dec 17 14:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	which is why exchanges are located in specific places
Dec 17 14:18:02 <thestringpuller>	yes but in since volume will start low on MPEX vs the 1000's of farms that sell on CME
Dec 17 14:18:06 <smickles>	;;sell 1 S.DICE @ 0.2 "%/day" Lending S.DICE at .2% per day based on the 1day average
Dec 17 14:18:07 <gribble>	Order id 12371 created.
Dec 17 14:18:26 <smickles>	;;view 12371
Dec 17 14:18:26 <gribble>	#12371 Mon Dec 17 11:18:07 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 S.DICE @ 0.2 %/day (Lending S.DICE at .2% per day based on the 1day average)
Dec 17 14:18:33 <thestringpuller>	I feel as though it is completely possible
Dec 17 14:18:39 <thestringpuller>	to decentralize the clearing house
Dec 17 14:19:03 <thestringpuller>	thus someone in istaanbuul can sell columbian coffee to spoiled americans
Dec 17 14:19:06 <thestringpuller>	all from his computer
Dec 17 14:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	that's not really tyhe point. the point is that if you're decentralizing the clearing house why are you centralizing price formation
Dec 17 14:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	it's pure distortion, has no economic basis.
Dec 17 14:19:20 <thestringpuller>	oh
Dec 17 14:19:29 <thestringpuller>	wouldn't the price set it self based on the suppliers?
Dec 17 14:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	"price" is meaningless inthis context
Dec 17 14:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	cause cocoa for (instanbul to budapest) is different from price in (cote d'ivoire to atlanta)
Dec 17 14:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00062348 = 5.3308 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00062348 = 2.0887 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:20:04 <thestringpuller>	i don't understand how price formation is centralized if it is primarily influenced by the supplier?
Dec 17 14:20:14 <thestringpuller>	i apologize for the confusion
Dec 17 14:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	cause mpex is one
Dec 17 14:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	you want 500 mpexes all over the world ?
Dec 17 14:20:47 <jurov>	if they had 500 mpoe-pr's ? why not
Dec 17 14:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	god.
Dec 17 14:21:07 <thestringpuller>	mpex exists on the internet and only on the internet no?
Dec 17 14:21:21 <thestringpuller>	sure it is hosted on servers located in romania
Dec 17 14:21:40 <smickles>	is it tho?
Dec 17 14:21:43 <thestringpuller>	but what would be the physical trade floor is a computer terminal connected to the internet
Dec 17 14:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	actually its located in atlanta.
Dec 17 14:22:29 <smickles>	;;sell 1 S.MPOE @ 0.2 "%/day" Lending S.MPOE at .2% per day based on the 1day average
Dec 17 14:22:29 <gribble>	Order id 12372 created.
Dec 17 14:22:35 <smickles>	on that news ;D
Dec 17 14:22:55 <jurov>	thestringpuller, why should someone in the California (if coffee would be grown there) have the same price as someone in Nepal?
Dec 17 14:23:28 <jurov>	i mean, suppliers
Dec 17 14:23:28 <thestringpuller>	jurov: buying or selling?
Dec 17 14:23:30 <thestringpuller>	okay
Dec 17 14:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	smickles 6% per month ? nice deal.
Dec 17 14:24:14 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: someone taking my deal with s.dice could've already made a bunch of btc
Dec 17 14:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller let's get it this other way : there's 20 geographically distinct markets. in one of them there's a shortage. that guy goes and buys moar cocoa. drives price up
Dec 17 14:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	FOR EVERYBODY
Dec 17 14:24:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00062345 = 11.8456 BTC [-]
Dec 17 14:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	people in 19 markets pay more cause some douche peed in his cocoa stores.
Dec 17 14:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	smickles true that.
Dec 17 14:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	nowait. you're lending it.
Dec 17 14:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	how'd he have made money shorting it ? it's up
Dec 17 14:25:27 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the sell at .0037, buy at .0018, ruturn the shares
Dec 17 14:25:54 <thestringpuller>	only 2 times
Dec 17 14:25:59 <smickles>	(that's just the optimal example)\
Dec 17 14:26:01 <thestringpuller>	has that happened smickles
Dec 17 14:26:03 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 17 14:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol ya right, and  they got lucky to be hit at 18
Dec 17 14:26:19 <smickles>	thestringpuller: client privledge
Dec 17 14:26:30 <mircea_popescu>	it's more likely to findsome btc in the park lying on the ground.
Dec 17 14:27:22 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: would it be profitable if they did the sell at 35 buy at 32?
Dec 17 14:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00062348 = 20.6372 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062586 = 2.3783 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:27:51 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (35 - 32)/35
Dec 17 14:27:52 <gribble>	0.0857142857143
Dec 17 14:27:59 <thestringpuller>	yea
Dec 17 14:28:00 <smickles>	;D
Dec 17 14:28:46 <smickles>	like I said, the 37/18 was just the optimal situation. (something that all those elliot wavers seem to forget)
Dec 17 14:28:59 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i feel like your example is indicating arbitrage is built in
Dec 17 14:29:27 <thestringpuller>	what if there was an exchange at each supplier
Dec 17 14:29:52 <thestringpuller>	like with spot exchanges (like CME I guess), wouldn't one supply shortage result in some trader doing argritrage?
Dec 17 14:30:00 <mircea_popescu>	if he can transport it.
Dec 17 14:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	arbitrage is meaningless if you can't close the cycle.
Dec 17 14:30:28 <thestringpuller>	so if there is a shortage in one location, then wouldn't he have to transport it from a farther location?
Dec 17 14:30:36 <thestringpuller>	given your scenario
Dec 17 14:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	he wouldn't have to.
Dec 17 14:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	if he had the ability to he might arbitrage
Dec 17 14:31:56 <thestringpuller>	i feel as though new trading strategies would arise due to this
Dec 17 14:32:02 <thestringpuller>	if the price went up for everyone
Dec 17 14:32:12 <EskimoBob>	lol at this cocoa price bs. Over 4 mil tons of cocoa gets produced per year
Dec 17 14:32:15 <thestringpuller>	due to a shortage in one geographical location
Dec 17 14:32:25 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: what location?
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Dec 17 14:32:35 <thestringpuller>	in the location in mircea_popescu scenario
Dec 17 14:32:48 <dub>	EskimoBob: yeah but every american consumes 4 mil tonnes of chocolate per annum
Dec 17 14:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3996 @ 0.00273502 = 10.9291 BTC [-]
Dec 17 14:33:36 <EskimoBob>	every ? sure. On what planet?
Dec 17 14:34:02 <dub>	on thunderchunk in the fatobar system
Dec 17 14:34:15 <thestringpuller>	so mircea_popescu if I can prevent a geogrpahical shortage in one location from affecting the entire market, the main issue you see will be solved?
Dec 17 14:34:18 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1405474#msg1405474 lol ukto got caught with pants down
Dec 17 14:34:23 <EskimoBob>	over here it's 6 mil tons and it goes straight to ass
Dec 17 14:34:43 <mircea_popescu>	no thestringpuller. the main issue is that a single price is meaningless for a fragmented set of random submarkets.
Dec 17 14:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	you'll need multiprices.
Dec 17 14:35:03 <jcpham>	shit kurweil works at google now
Dec 17 14:35:10 <thestringpuller>	so a composite?
Dec 17 14:35:10 <jcpham>	*kurzweil
Dec 17 14:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	maybe a composite, maybe just a simple auction-type site
Dec 17 14:36:09 <thestringpuller>	I see.
Dec 17 14:36:34 <thestringpuller>	That's actually not half bad...
Dec 17 14:36:41 <EskimoBob>	you guys have talked about this for days now. Let me ask this: what is this added value you offer for clients?
Dec 17 14:36:42 <mircea_popescu>	if you can pull it off
Dec 17 14:37:07 <kakobreklaa>	btw, to anyone who rememebers
Dec 17 14:37:08 <kakobreklaa>	20:33.46 ( @gribble ) markedathome was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 33 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, 46 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <markedathome> mcorlett: i'll help test if it is needed within the next 4 hours
Dec 17 14:37:10 <kakobreklaa>	he is back!
Dec 17 14:37:49 *	Ukto shows mircea_popescu pants down :P
Dec 17 14:37:52 <Ukto>	but hey
Dec 17 14:37:54 <Ukto>	at least I admit it
Dec 17 14:37:55 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 14:38:12 <thestringpuller>	Well mircea_popescu if you are willing to believe in me, I will pull it off.
Dec 17 14:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	hehe. one of the advantages of starting slow, you catch these things before they do damage
Dec 17 14:38:28 *	jcpham pants Ukto
Dec 17 14:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller that's what god said.
Dec 17 14:38:32 *	jcpham places bids
Dec 17 14:38:33 <thestringpuller>	XD
Dec 17 14:38:45 <mircea_popescu>	"Does anyone actually think MPEX is worth $8.4 Million USD? Seems WAY overvalued to me (like 1-2 orders of magnitude)."
Dec 17 14:39:05 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Dec 17 14:39:06 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006088 / 0.00062618 / 0.0006361 (2450793 shares, 1,534.65 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053193 / 0.00063995 (100441234 shares, 53,428.11 BTC)
Dec 17 14:39:07 <jcpham>	sell mortimer sell
Dec 17 14:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	i love the shock people get when they discover that... wait!!!! while we knew better and ignoed gpg and didn't user irc and etc stuff was happening!
Dec 17 14:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	HOW DARES IT!
Dec 17 14:39:30 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is it 10 billion shares total?
Dec 17 14:39:31 <EskimoBob>	Ukto is do in a superb job
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Dec 17 14:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller 1bn
Dec 17 14:39:56 <Lyspooner>	ca me faci
Dec 17 14:40:01 <EskimoBob>	and look, he has no need for a hysterical sociopath cunt, to represent him :)
Dec 17 14:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	o hai
Dec 17 14:40:05 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 1000000000 * .00062618
Dec 17 14:40:06 <gribble>	626180
Dec 17 14:40:06 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 17 14:40:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.24012, Best ask: 13.24013, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.24012, 24 hour volume: 77060.65520210, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.49800, 24 hour vwap: 13.20606
Dec 17 14:40:25 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 626180 * 13.20606
Dec 17 14:40:25 <gribble>	8269370.6508
Dec 17 14:40:31 <thestringpuller>	seems about right...
Dec 17 14:40:34 <thestringpuller>	the valuation
Dec 17 14:40:35 <jcpham>	at least mpex isn't named magic the gathering online exchange
Dec 17 14:40:36 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: make it hundred billion
Dec 17 14:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14zxqr/mpex_over_1_million_btc_total_market_cap/ this i fac.
Dec 17 14:40:50 <Lyspooner>	yeah yeah
Dec 17 14:40:52 <Lyspooner>	toot that horn
Dec 17 14:41:02 <EskimoBob>	looks bigger and more important :P
Dec 17 14:41:26 <mircea_popescu>	allow me to select an adequate picture
Dec 17 14:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134206824088.jpg
Dec 17 14:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	there you go
Dec 17 14:43:08 <jcpham>	is that a sex picture
Dec 17 14:43:11 <jcpham>	i bet it is
Dec 17 14:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	click and find out
Dec 17 14:43:28 <thestringpuller>	MBOR is the bond name?
Dec 17 14:43:30 <jcpham>	i'm not going to click the link, but you guys feel free to verbally describe it to me
Dec 17 14:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller yup
Dec 17 14:43:45 <thestringpuller>	5-6% is the interest the bot is guarenteeing?
Dec 17 14:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i'll pay you .001 btc to click it
Dec 17 14:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller there's no guarantee.
Dec 17 14:43:58 <jcpham>	no way
Dec 17 14:44:10 <Doffx>	I wouldnt call it sex, but there us nudity.
Dec 17 14:44:17 <jcpham>	i bill hourly
Dec 17 14:44:22 <Doffx>	is* you should check it out.
Dec 17 14:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	you can have it in an hour the
Dec 17 14:44:43 <jcpham>	i can't work for .001 hourly
Dec 17 14:44:49 <jcpham>	i'll never eat with those wages
Dec 17 14:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	so lose wait, get a better job eating out.
Dec 17 14:45:24 <jcpham>	sounds sexual
Dec 17 14:45:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: well what is the safe zone for right now is 5-6% no?
Dec 17 14:45:32 <jcpham>	did you just come on to me
Dec 17 14:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	i would think so ya
Dec 17 14:46:04 <thestringpuller>	thanks for the discussion on that idea mircea_popescu, much appreciated. I guess we'll talk again soon.
Dec 17 14:46:10 <jcpham>	ok i clicked the link
Dec 17 14:46:19 <Ukto>	well.. as long as he doesnt cum onto you, your prolly safe
Dec 17 14:46:20 <mircea_popescu>	addy ?
Dec 17 14:46:25 <Ukto>	just dont goto Romania :P
Dec 17 14:46:33 <Doffx>	yucky
Dec 17 14:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx i like how her tattoos seem to be drowning on her
Dec 17 14:47:27 <Doffx>	I would have thought you mostly liked the bag in her hand :P
Dec 17 14:47:35 <dub>	Look at how btct.co, litecoinglobal.com, bitfunder.com, cryptostocks.com and so on get their clients. Learn something. Evolve, for fuck sake!
Dec 17 14:47:52 <dub>	EskimoBob: would that be the, relying on your customers to be retarded method?
Dec 17 14:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	dub don't mess with him, he's listed an ART asset.
Dec 17 14:48:15 *	Ukto sighs and goes and sits on the short bus
Dec 17 14:48:39 <jcpham>	i love the short bus
Dec 17 14:48:45 <jcpham>	the A/C is colder
Dec 17 14:48:54 <Ukto>	tis true...
Dec 17 14:49:24 <Doffx>	...
Dec 17 14:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	beingtall on the short bus has the advantage you don't sniff aanyone's farts.
Dec 17 14:49:40 <Doffx>	Heat rises
Dec 17 14:49:57 <smickles>	where I went to school, the short bus had the intelegent peeps on it, social welfare allowed the large busses to be taken up by the 'short bus' peeps
Dec 17 14:50:24 <mircea_popescu>	 intelegent peeps << :D
Dec 17 14:50:24 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.0
Dec 17 14:50:36 <dub>	the only short bus reference I am aware of is that movie with lots of gay sex in it
Dec 17 14:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	o hey jurov !
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Dec 17 14:50:50 <dub>	is there some other meaning?
Dec 17 14:51:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00062553 = 2.5334 BTC [-]
Dec 17 14:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	jurov why the alternate month structure ?
Dec 17 14:52:32 <Ukto>	seemed like a waste to keep re-creating assets
Dec 17 14:52:36 <jurov>	we did not found a sane way how to cram it into one asset
Dec 17 14:52:52 <Ukto>	since theres a month of fundraising
Dec 17 14:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	a sio this way it can trade/invest/trade/invest sorta thing ?
Dec 17 14:52:53 <Ukto>	prior
Dec 17 14:53:00 <Ukto>	yes
Dec 17 14:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	kinda interesting.
Dec 17 14:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	now you can make an index of 1:1 over them lol
Dec 17 14:53:13 <Ukto>	1 month of fundraising, then it buys bond, a month of trading
Dec 17 14:53:15 <Ukto>	then liquid
Dec 17 14:53:16 <Ukto>	reset
Dec 17 14:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Dec 17 14:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	pretty slick.
Dec 17 14:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	jurov prolly need some verbiage abouty what if 100btc aren't raised.
Dec 17 14:55:14 <Ukto>	we thought you would cover the shortfall
Dec 17 14:55:15 <Ukto>	>:P
Dec 17 14:55:19 <Ukto>	j/k
Dec 17 14:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 17 14:55:41 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: hell ya i can spell :D
Dec 17 14:55:50 <jurov>	haha, no i'm sure there will be someone interested around #otc to provide few tens of btcs or so
Dec 17 14:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	i don't have any more money, i bought the bitfunder passthrough to cryptostocks shares investing in s.mpoe
Dec 17 14:56:10 <jurov>	and we will cover something ourselves
Dec 17 14:56:23 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 17 14:56:32 *	mircea_popescu waits for jurov to get his money together then increases bond min
Dec 17 14:56:37 <Ukto>	"some things"
Dec 17 14:56:38 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 14:56:43 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 17 14:57:01 <Ukto>	how are the murder laws in Romania nowdays? :P
Dec 17 14:57:10 *	jurov plans to sell most of his s.mpoe holding in that case, causin a panic
Dec 17 14:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol WE ARE GETTING TOO BIG TO FAIL
Dec 17 14:57:32 *	Ukto will see his sdice PT shares.. and not effect mpex at all
Dec 17 14:57:33 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 14:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 271 @ 0.00062553 = 0.1695 BTC [-]
Dec 17 14:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18179 @ 0.00062586 = 11.3775 BTC [+]
Dec 17 14:57:58 <Ukto>	I has stack of 200 now... >,>
Dec 17 14:58:22 <Doffx>	I bought a few.
Dec 17 14:58:33 <Ukto>	oh btw Doffx
Dec 17 14:58:43 <Ukto>	Did you see the dividend reinvestment stuff on BF?
Dec 17 14:58:47 <Ukto>	>:P
Dec 17 14:58:56 <Doffx>	Yes I did.
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Dec 17 15:03:14 <Doffx>	Well after the dust has settled it looks like I made quite a bit from the passthrough
Dec 17 15:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	i just had a thought about satoshidice
Dec 17 15:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	so it should take 1.9%. for many months through variance it was more like 1%
Dec 17 15:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	recently it moved to about 2%.
Dec 17 15:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	it is after all perfectly possible it just jumps to 3% for a few months...
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Dec 17 15:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062576 = 2.7039 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:05:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1321 @ 0.00062586 = 0.8268 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062711 = 2.5084 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20346 @ 0.00062767 = 12.7706 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:07:07 <jurov>	hahaha, mpoe-pr endorses us :P
Dec 17 15:07:12 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: A stock can be made of a composite of price non?
Dec 17 15:07:22 <thestringpuller>	prices*
Dec 17 15:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	that wouldn't be a stock tho
Dec 17 15:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	some fund/etf/something
Dec 17 15:07:32 <thestringpuller>	what would it be at that point
Dec 17 15:07:34 <thestringpuller>	a fund
Dec 17 15:07:35 <thestringpuller>	ah
Dec 17 15:07:46 <thestringpuller>	thank you for educating me
Dec 17 15:07:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2370 @ 0.00062767 = 1.4876 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:07:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16167 @ 0.00062836 = 10.1587 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6963 @ 0.00063252 = 4.4042 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062365 = 2.6948 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2252 @ 0.00062345 = 1.404 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12827 @ 0.00062181 = 7.976 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:08:47 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.DICE
Dec 17 15:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00357565 / 0.0037 (981811 shares, 3,510.62 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00340505 / 0.0037 (6472101 shares, 22,037.89 BTC)
Dec 17 15:09:33 <dub>	kinda ripping off the 007 bond on glbse
Dec 17 15:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	wha was that ?
Dec 17 15:10:04 <dub>	a mining bond
Dec 17 15:10:49 <dub>	just he james bond word play aspect
Dec 17 15:11:05 <thestringpuller>	is there a way to return the ask bid and last price on a stock?
Dec 17 15:11:13 <thestringpuller>	or do i gotta go to mpex.co
Dec 17 15:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	mpex.co ?
Dec 17 15:12:26 <thestringpuller>	the assbot ticjer
Dec 17 15:12:29 <thestringpuller>	ticker*
Dec 17 15:13:43 <thestringpuller>	smickles: how long will you ve offering the lending deal on S.DICE
Dec 17 15:14:06 <thestringpuller>	be*
Dec 17 15:18:34 <EskimoBob>	dub: when did you become mircea_popescu sock puppet? LOL
Dec 17 15:19:28 <dub>	EskimoBob: someone needs to offset your frothy mouthed table thumping
Dec 17 15:20:17 *	Ukto gives out flower necklaces to everyone. cant we all just get along? :P
Dec 17 15:20:26 *	Ukto spray paints the peace sign on MP's back
Dec 17 15:20:36 *	Ukto plants trees around the channel >,>
Dec 17 15:20:56 <thestringpuller>	ukto i got the 2 btc
Dec 17 15:21:19 <Ukto>	what 2btc?
Dec 17 15:21:27 <thestringpuller>	could we raose the price to 4 btc for all 3 discs
Dec 17 15:21:32 <thestringpuller>	ff7
Dec 17 15:21:35 <Ukto>	ooh
Dec 17 15:21:35 <Ukto>	that
Dec 17 15:21:42 <Ukto>	i have been pretty busy all morning
Dec 17 15:21:45 <Ukto>	havent even had a chance
Dec 17 15:21:56 <EskimoBob>	dub: what that even means?
Dec 17 15:23:24 *	Ukto gives EskimoBob a peace pipe w/ hash
Dec 17 15:23:25 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 15:24:00 *	jurov watches world burn
Dec 17 15:24:29 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: if you find it and it is workig ehat is your price for all 3
Dec 17 15:24:34 <Doffx>	Hell, its much worse than burning.
Dec 17 15:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062189 = 2.6872 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:25:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00062181 = 7.3243 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:25:54 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: sure.
Dec 17 15:26:48 <dub>	EskimoBob: at some point I recall enjoying the odd diatribe you emmited but now you just seem to show up and blather incoherently in any thread containing a poster you dont approve of. You are basically ciuciu 2.0
Dec 17 15:27:36 <EskimoBob>	really?
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Dec 17 15:31:47 <dub>	a table thumper is that person in the corporate world that operates by being overly forcefull, loud and petulant. They sometimes get results because other parties give in to their position because its easier to just make them go away but ultimately nobody wants to deal with them and they end up managed out of any position of relevance
Dec 17 15:35:56 <jurov>	EskimoBob, try to read that shit in "Gamma SatoshiDICE Pass Through" thread after yourself. really
Dec 17 15:36:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063105 = 2.7268 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:36:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1848 @ 0.00063129 = 1.1666 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062571 = 2.7037 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2179 @ 0.00062553 = 1.363 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 15:38:48 <EskimoBob>	jurov: someone made a post after me you do not like?
Dec 17 15:40:37 <jurov>	no. you did and apprently forgot
Dec 17 15:41:04 <EskimoBob>	I see that angry "PR" joke blabbering something. Maybe you need to talk to her?
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Dec 17 15:42:13 <dub>	WRT that quote about how these other 'exchanges' get their clients, seems to me that they are just mopping up the jizz left behind by nefario and the only clients they will get are those still convinced the GLBSE model works
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Dec 17 15:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063107 = 2.7269 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:42:45 <bonafide>	haha
Dec 17 15:42:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 887 @ 0.00063129 = 0.56 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:42:49 <bonafide>	5dimes.eu is sooooo sketchy
Dec 17 15:43:10 <EskimoBob>	lol
Dec 17 15:43:16 <bonafide>	you ever used?
Dec 17 15:43:20 <dub>	people willing to completely ignore teh probable illegality of it all or convinvced that thesse 'JUST FOR TESTING NOT A REAL EXCHANGE LOL' clauses in the tos will protect anyone
Dec 17 15:43:34 <EskimoBob>	good one
Dec 17 15:44:03 <EskimoBob>	i think they need to add a picture of a unicorn and PGP key. Then it will be OK?
Dec 17 15:44:23 <jurov>	not unicorn. mermaid
Dec 17 15:44:36 <EskimoBob>	even better
Dec 17 15:44:46 <EskimoBob>	add both :)
Dec 17 15:44:55 <jcpham>	https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/34710_546096738752926_1072646876_n.jpg
Dec 17 15:45:08 <Ukto>	oh thats funny
Dec 17 15:45:15 <Ukto>	cryptostocks changed their graphs
Dec 17 15:45:19 <Ukto>	to the same one I use
Dec 17 15:45:42 <Ukto>	they didnt pay tho :P
Dec 17 15:45:54 <Ukto>	and, didnt configure it fully
Dec 17 15:46:26 <dub>	the redeeming factor of MPEX is you actually have to at least have some significant motivation if not >0.1$ of a clue about finance to get a seat, it'll be hard to argue that the typical mom and pop retards fell into investing on it
Dec 17 15:46:42 <dub>	er s/$/%
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Dec 17 15:47:32 <Ukto>	in fact
Dec 17 15:47:42 <Ukto>	its misconfigured volume wise
Dec 17 15:47:47 <EskimoBob>	jurov: and maybe a questionable use of .us TLD helps and lets not forget some porn for spice. Then everything becomes legal
Dec 17 15:47:49 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Dec 17 15:48:03 <Ukto>	when the volume seciton on their graphs group up trades, its displaying the lowerst volume count
Dec 17 15:48:10 <Ukto>	section
Dec 17 15:48:13 <Ukto>	groups
Dec 17 15:48:17 *	Ukto shoots self
Dec 17 15:48:21 <dub>	oh were back to porn, hi ciuciu
Dec 17 15:48:36 <Ukto>	oh, and lowest
Dec 17 15:48:37 <Ukto>	wow
Dec 17 15:48:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063094 = 2.7263 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16865 @ 0.00063129 = 10.6467 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3064 @ 0.00063252 = 1.938 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:48:56 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: it's probably good to cut of the huge spikes so the regular stuff is still visible
Dec 17 15:50:16 <Ukto>	hge price spikes?
Dec 17 15:50:24 <EskimoBob>	no, vol
Dec 17 15:50:58 <Ukto>	I was debating making it aler
Dec 17 15:51:00 <Ukto>	taller
Dec 17 15:51:07 <EskimoBob>	one huge trade renders the whole chart useless - what's the point
Dec 17 15:51:33 <EskimoBob>	taller? will not really help you if the difference is huge. It's just a waste of space
Dec 17 15:52:06 <Ukto>	oh, i just ment in general
Dec 17 15:52:11 <Ukto>	its too squat I think
Dec 17 15:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> not unicorn. mermaid << dragon approves of this notion.
Dec 17 15:52:22 <jcpham>	i like unicorns
Dec 17 15:52:33 <Ukto>	I need to hide an esteregg on the site somewhere
Dec 17 15:52:38 <Ukto>	mermaid.. unicorn
Dec 17 15:52:44 <EskimoBob>	pony?
Dec 17 15:52:45 <jcpham>	ctrl alt f4
Dec 17 15:52:46 <Ukto>	and pay ppl 100satoshi to find it
Dec 17 15:52:47 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 15:52:51 <jcpham>	^ unicorn hotkey ^
Dec 17 15:52:52 <EskimoBob>	the ones with rainbows
Dec 17 15:53:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062563 = 2.7033 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15229 @ 0.00062553 = 9.5262 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:53:17 <Ukto>	wow
Dec 17 15:54:03 <Ukto>	I just came up with an interesting idea.. on how to use the rules for liars poker.. in an multi-player browser based isometric game....
Dec 17 15:54:15 <Ukto>	the stupid shit that comes to mind when your sleep deprived.
Dec 17 15:54:34 <Ukto>	spawned from unircorns and rainbows
Dec 17 15:55:22 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: for example, look at the http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxEUR.html 60 day and 2 day chart. Forget the period those chart show. JUst look at the vol bars.
Dec 17 15:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	ok, might as well make it public : re how many users mpex has : as per the monthly reports up until the end of nov it collected 2200 BTC in new user fees.
Dec 17 15:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	some of these are 10 btc, some 20 and some 30.
Dec 17 15:56:09 <EskimoBob>	2 chart has mostly this chicken shit at the bottom, because few proportionally large trades
Dec 17 15:56:19 <EskimoBob>	so it is really pointless
Dec 17 15:56:25 <EskimoBob>	2 day
Dec 17 15:56:42 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: your saying done have it like the first chart, right?
Dec 17 15:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062586 = 2.7043 BTC [+]
Dec 17 15:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1592 @ 0.00062553 = 0.9958 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:57:14 <EskimoBob>	yes and no. This was just a illustration to show what happens to vol chart
Dec 17 15:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2594 @ 0.00062181 = 1.613 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5666 @ 0.00061993 = 3.5125 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14427 @ 0.00061185 = 8.8272 BTC [-]
Dec 17 15:57:33 <Doffx>	How much did it collect in just Nov?
Dec 17 15:57:54 <EskimoBob>	if you cut off the unusual spikes, you get nice useful chart like the first one there
Dec 17 15:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14zxqr/mpex_over_1_million_btc_total_market_cap/c7i3l5s
Dec 17 15:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	lmao what a complete tard.
Dec 17 16:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	so basically "o, can i short it ???" "yes, smickles lends shares" "but can i short it without going into mpex".
Dec 17 16:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	people and their fixed ideas.
Dec 17 16:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.0037 = 4.255 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:03:40 <EskimoBob>	no need to get all hysterical about it mircea
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Dec 17 16:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063225 = 2.732 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2595 @ 0.00063252 = 1.6414 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00063307 = 12.1866 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:04:56 <EskimoBob>	but this IS funny http://www.reddit.com/user/inhibitor23 ( guess it's the joker who made the reddit post)
Dec 17 16:06:53 <jurov>	haha so he was the one who suggested installing pimpex on server
Dec 17 16:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob srsly ? here i sit on a humongous pile of bitcoins and you think you'll somehow manage to engage me in random interwebs dickery ? as if we're both equals, ramen fed nobodies floating abot ?
Dec 17 16:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	that plan has the flaw in it.
Dec 17 16:08:16 <PsychoticBoy>	dont be egocentric mircea, You are not THE bitcoinman
Dec 17 16:08:41 <PsychoticBoy>	for 1 you cant look into another ones wqallet
Dec 17 16:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	depends whose. rich people show each other's wallets all the time.
Dec 17 16:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's like a faggotry substitute (no homo)
Dec 17 16:10:47 <thestringpuller>	old guys walk aroubd shameless in locker rooms all the time
Dec 17 16:11:19 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Dec 17 16:11:47 <PsychoticBoy>	ok I drive a nice car thats what I care about
Dec 17 16:11:56 <PsychoticBoy>	and have Bitcoins :D
Dec 17 16:13:25 <PsychoticBoy>	btw most among us have more than enough bitcoins (and other assets/money) otherwise we could not sit around on IRC more than 8 hours a day
Dec 17 16:13:31 <thestringpuller>	oil is so last century
Dec 17 16:13:43 <thestringpuller>	well i am at worj
Dec 17 16:13:54 <thestringpuller>	im pretty broke atm cause of usago
Dec 17 16:13:55 <dub>	^
Dec 17 16:13:56 <thestringpuller>	usagi
Dec 17 16:14:07 <thestringpuller>	so i have to work :p
Dec 17 16:14:20 <PsychoticBoy>	work 8-10 hours a day, bitcoin related 8-10 hours a day hmmn when does a man sleep
Dec 17 16:14:37 <dub>	when his gf demands
Dec 17 16:14:39 <thestringpuller>	at night?
Dec 17 16:14:50 <thestringpuller>	i dont have a wife or gf so it helps
Dec 17 16:14:53 <PsychoticBoy>	:D
Dec 17 16:15:15 <thestringpuller>	i hope btc will free me up financially to quit my job
Dec 17 16:15:22 <PsychoticBoy>	I have, can give you some good headaches overtime
Dec 17 16:15:49 <thestringpuller>	meh.
Dec 17 16:15:54 <PsychoticBoy>	I still got a lot of ¨old¨ coins mined in 2010
Dec 17 16:16:08 <jurov>	kids, you need to know how to build things that *work* first
Dec 17 16:16:24 <thestringpuller>	jurov: preach it brother
Dec 17 16:16:30 <PsychoticBoy>	I have a kid, so i know 1 thing that works
Dec 17 16:16:44 <thestringpuller>	jurov: coinbr is very solid
Dec 17 16:16:50 <thestringpuller>	so you preach it
Dec 17 16:16:59 <thestringpuller>	its all tested and shit
Dec 17 16:17:00 <jurov>	yea, i couldn't fathom putting out fires every time new asset is listed like someone
Dec 17 16:17:10 <thestringpuller>	throws pretty excpeptions
Dec 17 16:17:10 <PsychoticBoy>	can I have a Haleluja
Dec 17 16:17:42 <jurov>	better throsing exception than acception a fractional number for a quantity
Dec 17 16:17:51 <thestringpuller>	heh
Dec 17 16:17:51 <jurov>	or even , god save us, negative one
Dec 17 16:17:56 <PsychoticBoy>	btw nice asset/passthrough you brought up on BitFunder jurov
Dec 17 16:18:40 <jurov>	ukto is a nice boy, it was worth it figuring something out
Dec 17 16:19:19 <thestringpuller>	heh
Dec 17 16:21:05 <PsychoticBoy>	I makes it more of an exchange, now you have mining, sdice and mpoe on Bitfunder
Dec 17 16:21:48 <PsychoticBoy>	sure it will get more trading volume overtime
Dec 17 16:22:16 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 17 16:22:39 <PsychoticBoy>	yes Ukto, BitFunder will grow
Dec 17 16:23:06 <kakobreklaa>	china will grow larger!
Dec 17 16:23:35 <PsychoticBoy>	hahahah
Dec 17 16:23:49 <PsychoticBoy>	China is mass populated already
Dec 17 16:23:52 <Ukto>	it will?
Dec 17 16:23:55 <Ukto>	mebbe i should shut it down now
Dec 17 16:23:56 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 16:24:08 <PsychoticBoy>	it is growing ;)
Dec 17 16:24:36 <Ukto>	not trading 1mil btc/mo  yet
Dec 17 16:24:42 <jurov>	shut it now when you still can.. when it grows sentient, nobody will be able to!
Dec 17 16:24:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063219 = 2.7317 BTC [-]
Dec 17 16:24:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1729 @ 0.00063228 = 1.0932 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:25:15 <jurov>	mpex is already sentient and we all see where it ends
Dec 17 16:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	probably it grows tentacles
Dec 17 16:25:49 <mircea_popescu>	10 tacles.
Dec 17 16:26:02 <Ukto>	only 10? :/
Dec 17 16:26:08 <Ukto>	doesnt sound ver menacing
Dec 17 16:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	1 for asshole, 1 for mouthole, 1 for urethrahole 1 for earhole
Dec 17 16:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	etc
Dec 17 16:26:22 <Ukto>	you need tenticals with sub-tentical spikes
Dec 17 16:26:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00063228 = 10.6539 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:27:24 <jurov>	indeed. mpex is the Beast they have prophesied
Dec 17 16:27:29 <dub>	no vagoohole?
Dec 17 16:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	ETC!!1
Dec 17 16:28:19 <jurov>	maybe you have pic of it in some dark corner of /dtng/
Dec 17 16:28:19 <PsychoticBoy>	tentacles with barbs
Dec 17 16:28:24 <dub>	to use correct terms back and front bum
Dec 17 16:28:24 <jurov>	do show us
Dec 17 16:28:47 <Ukto>	also debating a horrid idea
Dec 17 16:28:51 <Ukto>	of adding ltc/nmc to weexchange
Dec 17 16:28:59 <PsychoticBoy>	noooooooooooooo
Dec 17 16:29:03 <PsychoticBoy>	no altcoins
Dec 17 16:29:24 *	Ukto has had reqests to xchange them for aud and cad
Dec 17 16:29:29 <PsychoticBoy>	when does the hurting stop
Dec 17 16:29:33 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 17 16:29:38 <Lyspooner>	what are the chances that there is a better coin than bitcoin that we haven't heard of yet
Dec 17 16:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	jesus i agree with PsychoticBoy
Dec 17 16:29:42 <Ukto>	i digure I can layer on like 50 altchains
Dec 17 16:29:46 <Ukto>	figure
Dec 17 16:29:48 <Ukto>	devcoin
Dec 17 16:29:49 <Ukto>	colored coins
Dec 17 16:29:54 <Ukto>	sc, sc2
Dec 17 16:29:57 <Ukto>	beercoins
Dec 17 16:30:00 <mircea_popescu>	alt coins are scams
Dec 17 16:30:01 <Ukto>	SLL
Dec 17 16:30:01 <jcpham>	http://www.cardsagainsthumanity.com/holidaystats/
Dec 17 16:30:04 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 16:30:11 <jurov>	Ukto, don't forget to make it as ugly as vircurex was.. I miss it
Dec 17 16:30:12 <jcpham>	they gave away "pay what you can" cards a few weeks ago
Dec 17 16:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/1018.html there, lose yourself.
Dec 17 16:30:25 <dub>	wat about peepee coin
Dec 17 16:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	badonkacoin
Dec 17 16:30:43 <jcpham>	did i just see shitting dick nipples
Dec 17 16:30:52 <mircea_popescu>	whatwasseencoin
Dec 17 16:31:00 <PsychoticBoy>	I make my own bitcoin fork called PsychoCoin, 5 min a block, 50 coins and a difficulty change every week
Dec 17 16:31:02 <dub>	SDN in the hizzy
Dec 17 16:31:12 <jcpham>	SDN is next level
Dec 17 16:31:19 <jcpham>	i'll need a drink first
Dec 17 16:31:35 *	PsychoticBoy tosses jcpham a Beer
Dec 17 16:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	what is sdn ? dare i ask ?
Dec 17 16:32:10 <jcpham>	;;google "shitting dpples"
Dec 17 16:32:11 <gribble>	David lo - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/user/loshingon>; deviantART: More Like A Brighter Outward Perspective by ~vseira: <http://www.deviantart.com/morelikethis/collections/331165688>
Dec 17 16:32:13 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: when you pull that usb key out of your ass, where you keep that "big pile of bitcoins" you sit on, sell half a coin and go get yourself something nice. You know, it's this time of the year. ;)
Dec 17 16:32:19 <jcpham>	damn i screwed it up
Dec 17 16:32:30 <Ukto>	LOL % of chart that looks like pac-man
Dec 17 16:32:31 <jcpham>	keyboard is fail
Dec 17 16:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063074 = 2.7254 BTC [-]
Dec 17 16:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7529 @ 0.0006306 = 4.7478 BTC [-]
Dec 17 16:34:29 <PsychoticBoy>	PP coin, proof of stake crappy coin
Dec 17 16:34:46 <Ukto>	"wikipedia is very important to us because without it we would not have known the exact volume of a dose of fresh boar sperm" ... cant we do without that?
Dec 17 16:34:54 <PsychoticBoy>	forget all altcoin, there is only 1 coin, Bitcoin
Dec 17 16:35:05 <jcpham>	ukto those guys are foul
Dec 17 16:35:14 <jcpham>	if when ordering you put in 0 dollars
Dec 17 16:35:20 <jcpham>	they told you to go fuck yourself
Dec 17 16:35:33 <Ukto>	on teh donation check
Dec 17 16:35:35 <Ukto>	to wiki
Dec 17 16:36:27 <Ukto>	the command says "for telling us how much boar sperm costs
Dec 17 16:36:33 <Ukto>	comment
Dec 17 16:37:01 <jcpham>	the term "boar sperm" conjures up images
Dec 17 16:37:04 <dub>	important information
Dec 17 16:37:23 <Ukto>	could you imagine.. working some place, accepting donation payments
Dec 17 16:37:24 <kakobreklaa>	to boar sperm dealer.
Dec 17 16:37:38 <Ukto>	opening an envelope that says for providing the price of boar sperm?
Dec 17 16:37:39 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 16:37:41 <dub>	livestock sperm management is something important to all of us
Dec 17 16:37:49 <dub>	and is srs fucking bzns
Dec 17 16:38:02 <dub>	you have no idea
Dec 17 16:38:09 <dub>	every sperm is in fact sacred
Dec 17 16:38:16 <PsychoticBoy>	like mine
Dec 17 16:38:22 <kakobreklaa>	is this luke?
Dec 17 16:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063211 = 2.7313 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:38:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10435 @ 0.00063228 = 6.5978 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:38:31 <kakobreklaa>	or is it dog?
Dec 17 16:38:37 <dub>	my uncle is a champion inseminator
Dec 17 16:38:38 <jcpham>	yes, this is dog.
Dec 17 16:38:46 <dub>	the tech in that industry is fucking crazy
Dec 17 16:38:57 *	Ukto offers PsychoticBoy
Dec 17 16:39:06 <Ukto>	can he inseminate PsychoticBoy?
Dec 17 16:39:06 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 16:39:12 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Dec 17 16:39:19 <PsychoticBoy>	in my ass?
Dec 17 16:39:21 *	Ukto was tempted to say 'my dog
Dec 17 16:39:21 <PsychoticBoy>	wow
Dec 17 16:39:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1686 @ 0.00063228 = 1.066 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:39:25 <Ukto>	'but thought better of it
Dec 17 16:39:26 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 17 16:39:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1064 @ 0.00063307 = 0.6736 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:39:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.0006336 = 1.0454 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:39:34 <Ukto>	and decieded to use it as a comment instead
Dec 17 16:39:38 <dub>	every dose of jizz is tracked, gpsed, monitored for temp, consistency, flavour etc
Dec 17 16:39:49 <PsychoticBoy>	flavour?
Dec 17 16:39:55 <Ukto>	well yeah
Dec 17 16:39:58 <Ukto>	gotta taste test it
Dec 17 16:40:00 <jcpham>	xtra flavour
Dec 17 16:40:11 <dub>	ok not flavour
Dec 17 16:40:22 <jcpham>	boar sperm tastes like bacon
Dec 17 16:40:25 <kakobreklaa>	mircea_popescu seems like folks here need jizz futures on mpex, how about it
Dec 17 16:40:36 <jurov>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=X.BSPRM
Dec 17 16:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 17 16:41:19 <PsychoticBoy>	show the people some pics mircea
Dec 17 16:41:26 <dub>	jizz trading is one of the oldest markets
Dec 17 16:41:28 <jurov>	coming right after K.KBRL
Dec 17 16:41:59 <dub>	and not just in the way you're thinking
Dec 17 16:42:11 <PsychoticBoy>	hmmmn
Dec 17 16:42:38 <mod6>	haha jurov
Dec 17 16:43:44 <kakobreklaa>	yeah jizz future, that could be the first future with physical delivery on mpex
Dec 17 16:43:51 <mod6>	lol
Dec 17 16:43:58 <kakobreklaa>	straing in the vagoo.
Dec 17 16:44:04 <kakobreklaa>	straingt
Dec 17 16:44:07 <kakobreklaa>	fuck
Dec 17 16:44:08 <dub>	certainly an untapped resource from bitcointalk
Dec 17 16:44:11 <kakobreklaa>	straight.
Dec 17 16:44:12 <PsychoticBoy>	count me in
Dec 17 16:44:24 <jcpham>	new subforum
Dec 17 16:44:33 <dub>	you have an existing market of furious masturbators
Dec 17 16:45:08 <mod6>	milk producers
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Dec 17 16:47:04 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> smickles: how long will you ve offering the lending deal on S.DICE <<< I haven't put a time limit on it
Dec 17 16:47:32 <jurov>	smickles, and do you provide an api? my bot is interested
Dec 17 16:48:12 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Dec 17 16:48:49 <jurov>	seriously. poor thing, finds itself in the wrong end of the book, bitching and moaning
Dec 17 16:49:08 <jurov>	if it could just short trade all would be jolly
Dec 17 16:49:15 <thestringpuller>	an mpex bot?
Dec 17 16:49:19 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> so basically "o, can i short it ???" "yes, smickles lends shares" "but can i short it without  going into mpex". << http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14zxqr/mpex_over_1_million_btc_total_market_cap/c7i5djd
Dec 17 16:49:50 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Dec 17 16:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006088 / 0.00062639 / 0.0006361 (2557080 shares, 1,601.75 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.0005322 / 0.00063995 (100725071 shares, 53,606.21 BTC)
Dec 17 16:49:52 <jurov>	thestringpuller, don't tell me you did not notice its tracks in this very thread
Dec 17 16:51:13 <smickles>	jurov: I'm not even working on an api yet. Are you serious?
Dec 17 16:52:59 <jurov>	half serious... while i can lend to the bot myself, it trades small amounts
Dec 17 16:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063089 = 2.7261 BTC [-]
Dec 17 16:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4671 @ 0.0006306 = 2.9455 BTC [-]
Dec 17 16:53:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14066 @ 0.0006265 = 8.8123 BTC [-]
Dec 17 16:53:10 <jurov>	but it could be interesting elsewhere
Dec 17 16:53:46 <thestringpuller>	its good for grinding shares on mpoe i suppose
Dec 17 16:53:58 <thestringpuller>	auto day trading
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Dec 17 16:54:34 <smickles>	jurov: i'm working on a options market maker right now. after that, i'll look into an automated share lender
Dec 17 16:55:45 <jurov>	okay
Dec 17 16:55:58 <smickles>	;;gpg info
Dec 17 16:55:58 <gribble>	(gpg info [--key|--address] <nick>) -- Returns the registration details of registered user <nick>. If '--key' option is given, interpret <nick> as a GPG key ID.
Dec 17 16:56:08 <smickles>	;;gpg info --address smickles
Dec 17 16:56:09 <gribble>	No such user registered.
Dec 17 16:56:16 <smickles>	lolwut?
Dec 17 16:56:28 <smickles>	oh
Dec 17 16:56:38 <smickles>	;;gpg info smkickles
Dec 17 16:56:38 <gribble>	No such user registered.
Dec 17 16:56:43 <smickles>	bah!
Dec 17 16:56:50 <smickles>	;;gpg info sickles
Dec 17 16:56:50 <gribble>	No such user registered.
Dec 17 16:57:05 <smickles>	oh god damn, i'm taking this fail to a /q
Dec 17 16:57:07 <mod6>	HA HA HA HA
Dec 17 16:57:12 <mod6>	HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN
Dec 17 16:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062674 = 2.7081 BTC [+]
Dec 17 16:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2179 @ 0.0006265 = 1.3651 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 17:01:09 <mircea_popescu>	boar sperm is sorta like sperm whale ?
Dec 17 17:01:50 <dub>	no
Dec 17 17:02:13 <dub>	boar sperm is why we eat bacon, sperm whale is why the sea is salty
Dec 17 17:02:56 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Dec 17 17:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	no homo ?
Dec 17 17:06:44 <smickles>	yeah, pig is porcus in latin, not homo
Dec 17 17:07:27 *	smickles is now known as porcuscomedenti
Dec 17 17:07:54 <porcuscomedenti>	;D
Dec 17 17:08:56 <mircea_popescu>	denti be teeth ?
Dec 17 17:09:21 <mircea_popescu>	dub i asked and cum isn't salty.
Dec 17 17:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	whatever you been eating ?
Dec 17 17:09:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063332 = 2.7366 BTC [+]
Dec 17 17:09:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.0006336 = 10.5178 BTC [+]
Dec 17 17:09:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6602 @ 0.00063463 = 4.1898 BTC [+]
Dec 17 17:10:24 <porcuscomedenti>	it's a widespread myth that cum is salty, iirc
Dec 17 17:10:28 *	porcuscomedenti is now known as smickles
Dec 17 17:11:05 <dub>	yeah I'll admit to not having first hand knowledge ehre
Dec 17 17:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063431 = 2.7409 BTC [-]
Dec 17 17:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14602 @ 0.00063463 = 9.2669 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 17:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6946 @ 0.00063463 = 4.4081 BTC [+]
Dec 17 17:18:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063531 = 4.0025 BTC [+]
Dec 17 17:18:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0006361 = 1.2722 BTC [+]
Dec 17 17:18:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9732 @ 0.00063617 = 6.1912 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 17:26:10 <PsychoticBoy>	dub you should get a taste then ;)
Dec 17 17:28:12 <dub>	I spend a considerable amount of time in the sea, we can just pretend teh myth is true
Dec 17 17:29:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 17 17:29:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.29000, Best ask: 13.29001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.29000, 24 hour volume: 72257.80506675, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.48500, 24 hour vwap: 13.19301
Dec 17 17:29:39 <mircea_popescu>	pretty heavy volume for very little movement.
Dec 17 17:33:11 <dub>	thats a decent dip no?
Dec 17 17:35:17 <mircea_popescu>	coupla % ? not really much
Dec 17 17:37:28 <mircea_popescu>	and with that i bid you all a very good bowl of punch.
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Dec 17 17:43:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062669 = 2.7079 BTC [-]
Dec 17 17:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 255 @ 0.0006265 = 0.1598 BTC [-]
Dec 17 17:43:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4524 @ 0.00062474 = 2.8263 BTC [-]
Dec 17 17:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063591 = 2.7478 BTC [+]
Dec 17 17:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00063617 = 7.7931 BTC [+]
Dec 17 17:48:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00063624 = 3.8677 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 17:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00063268 = 11.7678 BTC [-]
Dec 17 17:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 654 @ 0.00063392 = 0.4146 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 18:02:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062481 = 2.6998 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:02:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1554 @ 0.00062478 = 0.9709 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:03:21 <thestringpuller>	it went to 12.74? hmm
Dec 17 18:06:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2767 @ 0.00062478 = 1.7288 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5426 @ 0.00062474 = 3.3898 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062323 = 6.8555 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4173 @ 0.00061185 = 2.5533 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:06:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 756 @ 0.00061184 = 0.4626 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:06:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4878 @ 0.00061132 = 2.982 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 18:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063389 = 2.739 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6396 @ 0.00063392 = 4.0546 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7773 @ 0.00063624 = 4.9455 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:17:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3395 @ 0.0006364 = 2.1606 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:19:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062386 = 2.6957 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6979 @ 0.0006237 = 4.3528 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:22:17 <smickles>	;;ticker
Dec 17 18:22:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.35702, Best ask: 13.35703, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.35702, 24 hour volume: 62449.85018562, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.48500, 24 hour vwap: 13.18595
Dec 17 18:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063616 = 2.7488 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4278 @ 0.0006364 = 2.7225 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:22:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18082 @ 0.00063643 = 11.5079 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:22:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 219 @ 0.00063658 = 0.1394 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:26:03 <dub>	https://twitter.com/PlzCrack
Dec 17 18:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00369236 = 9.0463 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:27:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00363031 = 8.8943 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.003695 = 18.475 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2754 @ 0.0037 = 10.1898 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062394 = 2.696 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12021 @ 0.0006237 = 7.4975 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:32:36 <Bugpowder>	chip chip chippin away
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Dec 17 18:41:18 <smickles>	dub: https://twitter.com/smickles/status/280819600097169408
Dec 17 18:42:23 *	da2ce7_d is now known as da2ce7
Dec 17 18:44:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9808 @ 0.0006118 = 6.0005 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 18:49:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061338 = 2.6504 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:49:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16179 @ 0.00061325 = 9.9218 BTC [-]
Dec 17 18:53:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006145 = 2.6553 BTC [+]
Dec 17 18:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6067 @ 0.0006148 = 3.73 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 18:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2573 @ 0.0037 = 9.5201 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 19:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16532 @ 0.0006148 = 10.1639 BTC [+]
Dec 17 19:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6568 @ 0.00062627 = 4.1133 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 19:17:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061381 = 2.6523 BTC [-]
Dec 17 19:17:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8851 @ 0.00061375 = 5.4323 BTC [-]
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Dec 17 19:36:48 <dub>	smickles: heh
Dec 17 19:39:36 <dub>	isnt the address an encoded public key though? would they need the actual key or at least know how its encoded?
Dec 17 19:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00062307 = 2.5546 BTC [+]
Dec 17 19:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062625 = 2.706 BTC [+]
Dec 17 19:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 529 @ 0.00062627 = 0.3313 BTC [+]
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Dec 17 20:19:26 <smickles>	dub: yeah, ottomh an address is a ripemd160 of a sha256
Dec 17 20:19:40 <smickles>	so if it gets it, it will return the sha hash  :)
Dec 17 20:21:13 <thestringpuller>	smickles: i will auth soon
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Dec 17 20:24:11 *	SDN 's
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Dec 17 20:24:35 <dub>	spoof me some jenks
Dec 17 20:24:59 <SDN>	what is jenks
Dec 17 20:25:42 <dub>	its street for jenkem
Dec 17 20:26:33 <dub>	asshrooms, butthash etc
Dec 17 20:26:41 <SDN>	Jenkem is a purportedly hallucinogenic inhalant created from fermented human waste.[1] In the mid-1990s, it was reported to be a popular street drug among Zambian street children.[
Dec 17 20:26:53 <SDN>	wtf is wrong with wikipedia
Dec 17 20:27:52 <dub>	;;ud jenkem
Dec 17 20:27:53 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jenkem | A highly hallucinogenic drug which results from huffing the fumes of your own fermented fecal matter. Users claim it gives an incredible rush, and ...
Dec 17 20:28:16 <SDN>	i call bullshit
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Dec 17 20:28:34 <SDN>	i seem to remember this joke
Dec 17 20:29:06 <dub>	nah bru
Dec 17 20:29:14 <SDN>	only CT schoolchildren would try that
Dec 17 20:29:30 <dub>	just like the water engine and double magnets its a supressed technology
Dec 17 20:31:10 <smickles>	I saw a nifty 'perpetual' motion machine, it looked like the classic magnet one but had a cleverly hidden solar pannel to give it that tiny little something that that prevents perpetual motion
Dec 17 20:31:19 <dub>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Jenkem1.jpg
Dec 17 20:31:29 <dub>	SDN: its an epidemic
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Dec 17 20:34:08 <dub>	gotta get dat winnie
Dec 17 20:37:22 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you have time to do some micro business? lol
Dec 17 20:40:57 <smickles>	;;ident
Dec 17 20:40:58 <gribble>	You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
Dec 17 20:41:01 <smickles>	;;ident thestringpuller
Dec 17 20:41:02 <gribble>	Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
Dec 17 20:41:09 <smickles>	r.r
Dec 17 20:41:36 <smickles>	r.r
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Dec 17 20:41:43 <smickles>	hmm
Dec 17 20:43:30 <smickles>	ಠ_ಠ
Dec 17 20:43:57 <smickles>	:D
Dec 17 20:44:41 <smickles>	!ticker s.mpoe
Dec 17 20:44:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00061132 / 0.00062735 / 0.00063658 (2494589 shares, 1,564.99 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053284 / 0.00063995 (100032159 shares, 53,301.92 BTC)
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Dec 17 20:46:34 <smickles>	hmm, pympex isn't working anymore
Dec 17 20:47:09 <smickles>	Azelphur: do you have any clue why pympex would not work right now?
Dec 17 20:47:18 <smickles>	doing it manually still works
Dec 17 20:48:01 <smickles>	oh, do we need to switch to mpex.co instead of poli~~~
Dec 17 20:48:11 <Azelphur>	smickles: mircea has been messing with the domains, I hear that's messed it up for a lot of people :P
Dec 17 20:48:20 <Azelphur>	git pull, I've already made that change
Dec 17 20:49:16 <smickles>	cool, thx :)
Dec 17 20:51:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00062871 = 0.2515 BTC [+]
Dec 17 20:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0006284 = 6.1583 BTC [-]
Dec 17 20:59:47 <thestringpuller>	PULL REQUESTS ftw
Dec 17 21:00:21 <thestringpuller>	are new accounts stil 20 btc?
Dec 17 21:00:26 <thestringpuller>	still*
Dec 17 21:01:09 <pigeons>	mpex.co now, what's next twitter bootstrap?
Dec 17 21:01:14 <thestringpuller>	smickles turning on the key machine right now
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Dec 17 21:02:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061596 = 2.6616 BTC [-]
Dec 17 21:02:56 <dub>	needs more porn on that domain tbh
Dec 17 21:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00061625 = 8.5659 BTC [+]
Dec 17 21:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.00063275 = 1.3155 BTC [+]
Dec 17 21:03:58 <pigeons>	i dn't think you wanted this one anyway Ukto https://btct.co/security/PAJKA.BOND
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Dec 17 21:10:31 <thestringpuller>	jurov: coinbr needs a favicon
Dec 17 21:10:33 <thestringpuller>	pretty please
Dec 17 21:10:39 <thestringpuller>	for us small screen users
Dec 17 21:19:19 <smickles>	;;ident thestringpuller
Dec 17 21:19:20 <gribble>	Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
Dec 17 21:19:23 <smickles>	ಠ_ಠ
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Dec 17 21:27:12 <thestringpuller>	smickles what are those characters
Dec 17 21:27:15 <thestringpuller>	is it tut tu?
Dec 17 21:27:18 <thestringpuller>	tut tut*
Dec 17 21:27:24 <thestringpuller>	the diapointed eyes
Dec 17 21:27:30 <thestringpuller>	anyhow do it now :P
Dec 17 21:28:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Dec 17 21:28:08 <gribble>	You are identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
Dec 17 21:28:14 <thestringpuller>	;)
Dec 17 21:28:33 <thestringpuller>	while i have my keyserver I will check my encrytped email
Dec 17 21:30:54 <thestringpuller>	smickles: this is a good fucking summary
Dec 17 21:31:05 <thestringpuller>	what do I owe you in terms of broker fees?
Dec 17 21:35:00 <smickles>	thestringpuller: all taken care of. I'll pm you the details in a sec here
Dec 17 21:35:21 <thestringpuller>	I'm sorry I only wanted to run 2.0 into reserves for orders
Dec 17 21:35:30 <thestringpuller>	if the orders went through already that's cool
Dec 17 21:35:45 <smickles>	2 BTC ?
Dec 17 21:35:46 <thestringpuller>	keep the other .5...~ liquid for whatever you want it for
Dec 17 21:35:48 <thestringpuller>	yea
Dec 17 21:35:51 <thestringpuller>	into mpoe
Dec 17 21:35:52 <smickles>	kk
Dec 17 21:36:01 <smickles>	;;ident thestringpuller
Dec 17 21:36:02 <gribble>	Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
Dec 17 21:36:08 <smickles>	lolwut?
Dec 17 21:36:11 <thestringpuller>	for CRYING out loud
Dec 17 21:36:13 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Dec 17 21:36:14 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Dec 17 21:36:17 <thestringpuller>	hold on
Dec 17 21:36:18 <smickles>	;;ident
Dec 17 21:36:18 <gribble>	You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
Dec 17 21:36:23 <thestringpuller>	OH
Dec 17 21:36:27 <smickles>	lol, gribble is fucking with you
Dec 17 21:36:27 <thestringpuller>	i left #bitcoin-otc
Dec 17 21:36:28 <thestringpuller>	seriously
Dec 17 21:36:35 <thestringpuller>	i have to be in bitcoin-otc
Dec 17 21:36:51 <smickles>	gribble pwns n00bs
Dec 17 21:38:38 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Dec 17 21:38:39 <gribble>	You are identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
Dec 17 21:38:40 <thestringpuller>	blah
Dec 17 21:38:45 <thestringpuller>	I hate staying in the otc channel
Dec 17 21:38:48 <thestringpuller>	it's so much spam
Dec 17 21:38:53 <thestringpuller>	it's like being in a city in an MMORPG
Dec 17 21:39:08 <thestringpuller>	with all the WTS and WTB shit being spammed in your chat like I am spamming right now
Dec 17 21:42:22 <smickles>	the:
Dec 17 21:42:25 <smickles>	eaar
Dec 17 21:42:27 <smickles>	thestringpuller:
Dec 17 21:42:29 <smickles>	;;view
Dec 17 21:42:30 <gribble>	#12371 Mon Dec 17 11:18:07 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 S.DICE @ 0.2 %/day (Lending S.DICE at .2% per day based on the 1day average) || #12372 Mon Dec 17 11:22:29 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 S.MPOE @ 0.2 %/day (Lending S.MPOE at .2% per day based on the 1day average)
Dec 17 21:42:45 <smickles>	lol, teh order spam follows you here!
Dec 17 21:44:22 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Dec 17 21:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00061132 / 0.00062721 / 0.00063658 (2473639 shares, 1,551.49 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053287 / 0.00063995 (100062659 shares, 53,320.87 BTC)
Dec 17 21:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061381 = 2.6523 BTC [-]
Dec 17 21:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8836 @ 0.00061375 = 5.4231 BTC [-]
Dec 17 21:47:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1013 @ 0.00061325 = 0.6212 BTC [-]
Dec 17 21:52:58 <thestringpuller>	oh wow look at the
Dec 17 21:53:19 <thestringpuller>	that MPOE @ 0.00061194 volume: 9`280
Dec 17 21:53:23 <thestringpuller>	i'm buying that
Dec 17 21:53:42 <dub>	a few days ago midnightmagic commented on how terrible it would be to live in a place where the base assumption is that a stranger will sooner do you harm than help
Dec 17 21:54:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00061194 = 1.8358 BTC [-]
Dec 17 21:54:26 <dub>	I was trying to explain to friends the concept of american belief in the right to bear arms
Dec 17 21:54:33 <thestringpuller>	aren't there places like that
Dec 17 21:54:36 <thestringpuller>	you know like somalia
Dec 17 21:55:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6280 @ 0.00061194 = 3.843 BTC [-]
Dec 17 21:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063274 = 2.7341 BTC [+]
Dec 17 21:55:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10899 @ 0.00063275 = 6.8963 BTC [+]
Dec 17 21:55:16 <dub>	that people think that they need to be armed to teh teeth to protect themselves from teh very government they elected
Dec 17 21:56:03 <dub>	similar response
Dec 17 21:56:16 <dub>	thestringpuller: plenty of places
Dec 17 21:59:02 <thestringpuller>	woot
Dec 17 21:59:33 <thestringpuller>	it spawns from our revolution which was won with guns
Dec 17 21:59:40 <thestringpuller>	india believes in peaceful revolutions
Dec 17 21:59:50 <dub>	not guns belonging to the people though
Dec 17 21:59:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00061641 = 2.9588 BTC [-]
Dec 17 21:59:52 <thestringpuller>	they defeated british occupancy with relatively non violence..
Dec 17 22:00:06 <thestringpuller>	militias during the revolution were normal people
Dec 17 22:00:16 <thestringpuller>	not an organize government sponsored military
Dec 17 22:00:24 <thestringpuller>	it was farmers and shit who just happened to own guns
Dec 17 22:00:27 <dub>	armed with military supplies afaik?
Dec 17 22:00:34 <thestringpuller>	pretty much
Dec 17 22:00:50 <dub>	so the rebel states took over army munitions and handed them out to farmers
Dec 17 22:00:51 <thestringpuller>	america is a place built from guns since colonial times
Dec 17 22:00:57 <thestringpuller>	wait what?
Dec 17 22:01:18 <dub>	let me find link I was reading earlier
Dec 17 22:01:22 <thestringpuller>	people bought guns when they came to america for protection as part of what they moved from britain with
Dec 17 22:02:07 <thestringpuller>	it's apart of american culture in the sameway Indian culture has the opposite
Dec 17 22:02:15 <thestringpuller>	the whole non-violence thing...
Dec 17 22:02:21 <thestringpuller>	so I mean like move to canada if you're
Dec 17 22:02:25 <thestringpuller>	 afraid of getting mugged
Dec 17 22:02:32 <thestringpuller>	move to solamalia if you like to defend yourself...
Dec 17 22:02:55 <dub>	this was discussion around lots of little children getting killed by survivalist gun nuts
Dec 17 22:03:39 <dub>	obv. that I was trying to explain gun culture to people who had difficulty believing what you've just said suggests that I am not in 'murica currently
Dec 17 22:03:43 <thestringpuller>	so what's the point some people like guns some people don't
Dec 17 22:04:02 <thestringpuller>	the question is do you like guns?
Dec 17 22:04:12 <dub>	well the primary thrust of the anti gun control lobby seems to be 'we must defend ourselvesx from govt'
Dec 17 22:04:30 <dub>	I do like guns, I like using them to kill stuff so I can eat it
Dec 17 22:04:50 <dub>	we have a lot of guns here for that purpose, very little gun crime
Dec 17 22:06:53 <thestringpuller>	yea but ideally you need to keep guns away from people who shouldn't have them
Dec 17 22:07:00 <dub>	trying to find this article in my twitter feed, was talking about a major historical fallacy in that argument about civil war guns actually belonging to the people
Dec 17 22:07:11 <thestringpuller>	like someone who is willing to kill innocents and doesn't care about any consequences
Dec 17 22:07:59 <dub>	yeah, but the people who don't want you to keep guns away from anyone seem to use this argument primarily
Dec 17 22:09:07 <thestringpuller>	i was told if you a rich person living in detroit
Dec 17 22:09:13 <thestringpuller>	you should have a lot of body guards who are armed
Dec 17 22:09:18 <thestringpuller>	so in that context the argument seems legit
Dec 17 22:09:22 <thestringpuller>	like Detroit is...well
Dec 17 22:09:26 <thestringpuller>	you're from america
Dec 17 22:10:17 <smickles>	i like where i live, few police, few criminals
Dec 17 22:14:31 <smickles>	I have a gun that's illegal to own in canada, and it's my preferred hunting weapon
Dec 17 22:14:43 <smickles>	s&w 686+
Dec 17 22:14:46 <smickles>	:D
Dec 17 22:15:08 <dub>	lol the fuck are you hunting with that
Dec 17 22:15:14 <dub>	(inb4 'niggers')
Dec 17 22:15:15 <smickles>	with the right ammo, it's 'bout perfect for squirrels
Dec 17 22:15:36 <dub>	can you eat squirrels?
Dec 17 22:15:40 <smickles>	sure can
Dec 17 22:15:44 <dub>	have we had this discussion
Dec 17 22:15:48 <smickles>	rabbits too
Dec 17 22:15:56 <dub>	yeah rabbit is good
Dec 17 22:16:01 <smickles>	my friend tom took out a deer with it once too
Dec 17 22:16:19 <dub>	squirrel seems like a lot of effort for not much meat
Dec 17 22:16:35 <smickles>	but you get a bushy tail too :)
Dec 17 22:16:47 <smickles>	I usually sell those
Dec 17 22:16:49 <dub>	we shoot deer and boar mostly
Dec 17 22:17:03 <dub>	and ducks
Dec 17 22:17:28 <smickles>	back when I was in missouri, tom and i would always go after boar, but never find one, and end up getting something that was in season
Dec 17 22:17:37 <dub>	for eating anyway, theres plenty of vermin like rabbits that are mostly shot for pest control
Dec 17 22:17:46 <smickles>	there, boar was open season year round
Dec 17 22:18:04 <dub>	yea same here
Dec 17 22:18:22 <SDN>	land crab
Dec 17 22:18:23 <smickles>	I dunno what you hunt, if anything, around tucson tho :(
Dec 17 22:18:56 <smickles>	I think i might have to settle for targets and skill shots
Dec 17 22:19:47 <smickles>	prolly have to lower the weight on the trigger to be any good at skillshots tho
Dec 17 22:19:56 <dub>	I shoot fish mostly
Dec 17 22:20:04 *	SDN is now known as jcpham
Dec 17 22:20:08 <smickles>	really? I've never shot a fish
Dec 17 22:20:27 <smickles>	in what manner do you do that?
Dec 17 22:23:36 <dub>	don a wetsuit, weight belt, low volume mask and long ass flippers, tow a float around attached to your spear gun until you find some likely looking terrain. Get your breathing under control, lowering your heart rate..
Dec 17 22:24:02 <thestringpuller>	smickles: do you know when S.DICE dividends are supposed to payout? Is that public knowledge yet or still TBD?
Dec 17 22:24:26 <dub>	then you hyperventilate 4-5 times, takea  big breath and fold your body in half driving the head down and kicking slowly until you reach your cover, try to identify and kill something before you run out of oxygen
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Dec 17 22:34:51 <dub>	finally http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/12/in_search_of_the_guns_freedom_unicorn.php
Dec 17 22:34:59 <thestringpuller>	i found a glitch in mircea's polimedia credits
Dec 17 22:35:09 <thestringpuller>	I can pretty much just read everything for free now...
Dec 17 22:35:23 <thestringpuller>	but is it ethical? hmmm....
Dec 17 22:35:45 <dub>	his blog has a paywall?
Dec 17 22:35:59 <dub>	clearly I'm not reading it enough
Dec 17 22:36:13 <thestringpuller>	yessir
Dec 17 22:36:15 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 17 22:36:33 <thestringpuller>	Since 3G phones constantly change access points
Dec 17 22:36:54 <thestringpuller>	you just access it that way, (and I wipe my cookies as well), and you can tether those pages down
Dec 17 22:37:02 <thestringpuller>	no trilemma credits needed ;)
Dec 17 22:37:12 <thestringpuller>	but I may buy some anyone just because I found an exploit
Dec 17 22:37:16 <thestringpuller>	anyway*
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Dec 17 22:41:20 <dub>	hacker
Dec 17 22:41:34 <thestringpuller>	yea man
Dec 17 22:41:35 <thestringpuller>	why not?
Dec 17 22:41:37 <thestringpuller>	srsly
Dec 17 22:41:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea is a hacker
Dec 17 22:41:47 <thestringpuller>	smickles is a hacker
Dec 17 22:41:48 <thestringpuller>	we all hackers
Dec 17 22:41:53 <dub>	apparently aethero found some problem with bitcoin he felt was important enough not to share publicly
Dec 17 22:42:14 <dub>	I suggest that everyone panic sell as precaution
Dec 17 22:42:50 <Diablo-D3>	KAY
Dec 17 22:42:55 <Diablo-D3>	* 15 minutes later *
Dec 17 22:43:03 <Diablo-D3>	why is the price now $1?
Dec 17 22:43:23 <dub>	wait wait wait
Dec 17 22:43:38 <dub>	ok now I have bids at $1, continue
Dec 17 22:43:41 <jcpham>	buy mortimer buy
Dec 17 22:43:45 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 17 22:43:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.25000, Best ask: 13.31900, Bid-ask spread: 0.06900, Last trade: 13.25000, 24 hour volume: 63598.57245371, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.43200, 24 hour vwap: 13.18224
Dec 17 22:43:48 <jcpham>	meeks doesn't have the report
Dec 17 22:43:51 <thestringpuller>	is gribble still broker?
Dec 17 22:43:54 <thestringpuller>	broke*
Dec 17 22:44:07 <dub>	not aware of any breakage
Dec 17 22:48:00 <kakobreklaa>	04:41.50 ( dub ) apparently aethero found some problem with bitcoin he felt was important enough not to share publicly
Dec 17 22:48:01 <kakobreklaa>	urlpls
Dec 17 22:48:42 <dub>	bit.ly/iPFi3X
Dec 17 22:49:00 <dub>	er http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2012/12/18
Dec 17 22:49:38 <kakobreklaa>	hrm
Dec 17 22:50:04 <dub>	"trust me" sounds srs
Dec 17 22:50:18 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 17 22:50:24 <thestringpuller>	is aethero a programmer?
Dec 17 22:50:49 <thestringpuller>	whoa
Dec 17 22:50:51 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 17 22:50:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.18000, Best ask: 13.31698, Bid-ask spread: 0.13698, Last trade: 13.17834, 24 hour volume: 63626.49030926, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.43200, 24 hour vwap: 13.18199
Dec 17 22:51:00 <thestringpuller>	13 cent B-A spread
Dec 17 22:51:07 <dub>	SELL MY PRETTIES
Dec 17 22:51:43 <smickles>	thestringpuller: s.dice dividends: see http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE section e and f
Dec 17 22:52:36 <thestringpuller>	smickles: i want to short S.DICE but I'm afraid you'll take the offer down after dividends are paid
Dec 17 22:54:05 <thestringpuller>	i wish you could list something like Bitinstant on MPEX
Dec 17 22:54:24 <smickles>	naw, I probably wont. and why would it matter if i took the offer down after you took me up on it, you'd already have the short
Dec 17 22:54:41 <thestringpuller>	it depends on if I can close the short
Dec 17 22:55:05 <smickles>	so long as I thought you could pay me, i'd let you keep the short open
Dec 17 22:55:18 <thestringpuller>	but it's about timing
Dec 17 22:55:24 <thestringpuller>	dividends will usually cause the price to drop
Dec 17 22:55:31 <thestringpuller>	I want to sell before dividends are paid at a good high price
Dec 17 22:55:47 <thestringpuller>	and hopefully the stock will drop and free float a bit at an adjusted price...
Dec 17 22:55:52 <smickles>	oh, you want to open the position closer to divident time eh?
Dec 17 22:56:08 <thestringpuller>	yes
Dec 17 22:56:12 <thestringpuller>	then close it right after
Dec 17 22:56:58 <smickles>	ok, in all likelyhood, my offer will be available indefinately (sp?)
Dec 17 22:57:17 <copumpkin>	indefinitely
Dec 17 22:57:19 <smickles>	indefinitely
Dec 17 22:57:28 <smickles>	thx copumpkin  :)
Dec 17 22:57:46 <copumpkin>	just think of finite :)
Dec 17 22:57:50 <copumpkin>	it's not finate
Dec 17 22:57:54 <thestringpuller>	smickles
Dec 17 22:57:55 <smickles>	it seems so obvious now
Dec 17 22:57:57 <copumpkin>	it's in the etymology
Dec 17 22:57:59 <thestringpuller>	you're gonna make a lot of money
Dec 17 22:58:06 <thestringpuller>	unless S.DICE goes below .002
Dec 17 22:58:07 <copumpkin>	or I could say entomology
Dec 17 22:58:22 <copumpkin>	(I'd be wrong though)
Dec 17 22:58:24 <thestringpuller>	long time no see copumpkin
Dec 17 22:58:29 <copumpkin>	hey
Dec 17 22:58:35 <copumpkin>	I'm pretty absent these days :)
Dec 17 22:58:38 <thestringpuller>	the only other person who likes to crak jokes
Dec 17 22:58:41 <thestringpuller>	crack*
Dec 17 22:58:57 <copumpkin>	these days I mostly like crack
Dec 17 22:59:13 <thestringpuller>	;) i see you have not lost your sense of humor in your absece
Dec 17 22:59:15 <thestringpuller>	absence
Dec 17 22:59:23 <copumpkin>	:P
Dec 17 23:00:30 <thestringpuller>	smickles: small broker advice: should I try getting my shares claimed with usagi? I never aml'ed with GLSBSE but I did get sent payment from the dividends I earned. I had about 20 BTC wrapped up in NYAN.A and he's claiming to liquidate the composites the compose NYAN.A and distribute that to shareholders
Dec 17 23:00:45 <thestringpuller>	I feel though given your experience I may need to write it off even though it's a heavy loss
Dec 17 23:00:56 <thestringpuller>	your experience with usagi*
Dec 17 23:01:27 <smickles>	what info is usagi asking for?
Dec 17 23:01:42 <dub>	this is pretty fucked http://thebluereview.org/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother/
Dec 17 23:01:45 <thestringpuller>	hold on he has a thread
Dec 17 23:02:15 <thestringpuller>	he's also saying that only 1% is unclaimed, vis-a-vis, ~50+ USD
Dec 17 23:02:28 <smickles>	if he's been given a list, and you gave your btc addy to glbse, then he should have you on his list
Dec 17 23:02:37 <thestringpuller>	which means he's fucked up his accounting because I def had 200 shares
Dec 17 23:02:45 <thestringpuller>	so I can prove via BTC addy
Dec 17 23:06:14 <thestringpuller>	Nefario wanted AML information though to put you on thelist
Dec 17 23:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00061641 = 1.2328 BTC [-]
Dec 17 23:06:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8994 @ 0.00061534 = 5.5344 BTC [-]
Dec 17 23:06:26 <dub>	he did?
Dec 17 23:06:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3506 @ 0.00061133 = 2.1433 BTC [-]
Dec 17 23:06:37 <thestringpuller>	so I may not be on the list because I didn't AML, because why the fuck would I trust some bloke in the UK with my utility bills and drivers license?
Dec 17 23:06:51 <dub>	at first he did, then recinded and just asked for email addy and btc address
Dec 17 23:06:54 <thestringpuller>	does he want my SSN and 401k account number too?
Dec 17 23:07:01 <thestringpuller>	for fucks sake
Dec 17 23:07:02 <thestringpuller>	heh
Dec 17 23:07:06 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> Nefario wanted AML information though to put you on thelist << nef backed down on that
Dec 17 23:07:11 <thestringpuller>	okay
Dec 17 23:07:26 <thestringpuller>	well usagi said this:
Dec 17 23:07:27 <thestringpuller>	d) People who are not on the list might not be on the list because they are criminals/avoiding AML.
Dec 17 23:07:30 <thestringpuller>	This may be considered a minor reason by some. Granted, but I will note it. I will also note that NYAN.C is unique among all companies with 20% (!) unclaimed shares. Now that is interesting, but I won't speculate on the meaning. I'm sure you can do that yourself.
Dec 17 23:07:39 <thestringpuller>	so I only assumed what I said above
Dec 17 23:07:52 <dub>	well usagi is a crazy person
Dec 17 23:07:54 <thestringpuller>	however if it's going to be too much of a hassle dealing with this lunatic
Dec 17 23:08:04 <thestringpuller>	to get my 20 BTC back
Dec 17 23:08:06 <thestringpuller>	I can write it off
Dec 17 23:08:15 <thestringpuller>	I'll just liquidate something in my house I never use
Dec 17 23:08:19 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> d) People who are not on the list might not be on the list because they are  criminals/avoiding AML. <<< you must understand, usagi is a jackass
Dec 17 23:08:24 <dub>	can you still claim if you login to glbse? probably worht it
Dec 17 23:08:39 <thestringpuller>	i got sent my divdends so I made a claim
Dec 17 23:10:11 <thestringpuller>	My claim has been processedit said
Dec 17 23:10:24 <thestringpuller>	the bitcoin they sent me I used in an auction but I have receipt of it
Dec 17 23:10:36 <thestringpuller>	so I CAN prove my account if I'm on usagi's list
Dec 17 23:10:50 <thestringpuller>	again smickles if you think it will cost me too much time to get usagi to pay me the 20 btc
Dec 17 23:10:53 <thestringpuller>	I'm going to write it off
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Dec 17 23:25:21 <bonafide>	AML?
Dec 17 23:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00062876 = 5.9732 BTC [+]
Dec 17 23:28:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00063249 = 1.8975 BTC [+]
Dec 17 23:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063249 = 2.733 BTC [+]
Dec 17 23:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1279 @ 0.00063275 = 0.8093 BTC [+]
Dec 17 23:28:32 <thestringpuller>	anti money laundering
Dec 17 23:28:47 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.slate.com/blogs/trending/2012/12/07/rhino_poaching_google_pays_for_drones_to_fight_ivory_trade.html
Dec 17 23:29:31 <thestringpuller>	yeeeay
Dec 17 23:51:52 <bonafide>	Ivory should be traded on the market
Dec 17 23:52:06 <bonafide>	the Asians use it as their Viagra
Dec 17 23:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00363031 = 5.4455 BTC [-]
Dec 17 23:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6843 @ 0.00063275 = 4.3299 BTC [+]
Dec 17 23:59:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4056 @ 0.00063658 = 2.582 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 00:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.00063658 = 16.201 BTC [+]
Dec 18 00:32:38 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i'd need to see what usagi is requiring, but for 20 btc, it's probably worth the pursuit
Dec 18 00:34:25 <smickles>	thestringpuller: succumb to the magic, just think, what if btc is worth 100usd in a few years, or 1000, or 10000 *squee*
Dec 18 00:34:58 <smickles>	usagi is sitting on your 200,000 bucks !!
Dec 18 00:36:35 <bonafide>	200k USD will have the buying power of 2k at the rate the Fed is printing money
Dec 18 00:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 815 @ 0.00063262 = 0.5156 BTC [-]
Dec 18 00:43:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00063235 = 4.047 BTC [-]
Dec 18 01:11:09 <smickles>	bonafide: all the more reason to get the btc nao!
Dec 18 01:15:49 <bonafide>	haha
Dec 18 01:16:17 <Ukto>	pigeons: no, I did not want it. I have err reasons. :P
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Dec 18 01:16:42 <smickles>	à cause des filles
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Dec 18 01:18:44 <smickles>	nous avons mis sur trois suites pièce
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Dec 18 01:23:02 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 18 01:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00359628 / 0.0037 (877988 shares, 3,157.49 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00340582 / 0.0037 (6489978 shares, 22,103.71 BTC)
Dec 18 01:24:09 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you missed my redux of a cause de garcsons
Dec 18 01:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Dec 18 01:25:06 <mircea_popescu>	dja mean des garcons ?
Dec 18 01:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	as in acausedesgarcons.com/ - Le blog gay des beaux garçons qui se mettent à nu ?
Dec 18 01:26:40 <smickles>	lol, you expect me to be able to spell french words? we're talking about me here :D
Dec 18 01:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Dec 18 01:29:03 <mircea_popescu>	quite funny readding that reddit about mpex.
Dec 18 01:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	i get this feeling as if for many people bitcoin is pretty much the wtf gift that keeps on giving
Dec 18 01:31:44 <smickles>	well, i think that has to do with the fact that it's not 'established' yet
Dec 18 01:31:59 <smickles>	that establishment prolly having a lot to do with the volatility
Dec 18 01:32:29 <smickles>	hey! ya wanna know what my volatility mistake was earlier?
Dec 18 01:32:46 <smickles>	well, i wrote all the code myself, based off of theory
Dec 18 01:33:03 <smickles>	turns out i coded it for variance, not volatility!
Dec 18 01:33:04 <smickles>	lol
Dec 18 01:33:35 <smickles>	a simple change in input for sigma to sigma² fixed it
Dec 18 01:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28145 @ 0.00063171 = 17.7795 BTC [-]
Dec 18 01:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Dec 18 01:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	this is cute
Dec 18 01:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	so with the new inputs the differences from mpoe reduced or amplified ?
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Dec 18 01:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.07713857 = 77.1386 BTC [-]
Dec 18 01:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.11328195 = 113.282 BTC [-]
Dec 18 01:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.15615809 = 156.1581 BTC [+]
Dec 18 02:03:10 <Ukto>	hey mircea_popescu
Dec 18 02:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	hey ukto
Dec 18 02:03:27 <Ukto>	whats the proper term.. for letting people "over bid" ? place total bids for more money/btc then they have ?
Dec 18 02:03:44 <Ukto>	I cant think of how to term it for some reason
Dec 18 02:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	margining them
Dec 18 02:03:53 <Ukto>	ah
Dec 18 02:03:54 <Ukto>	there we go
Dec 18 02:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	it's nothing you should do w/o adequate capital on hand.
Dec 18 02:04:14 <Ukto>	Sigh, most people wont understand the question
Dec 18 02:04:30 <Ukto>	i'll have to spell out the question on the faq
Dec 18 02:05:18 <Ukto>	Q: Can I put up more total bids than BTC/Shares available? (Margining)
Dec 18 02:05:25 <Ukto>	That sound reasonable?
Dec 18 02:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	you're going to seamlessly margin shares ?
Dec 18 02:06:36 <Ukto>	the answer is NO
Dec 18 02:06:49 <Ukto>	just trying to write the question is a format the even dumb ppl can understand
Dec 18 02:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Dec 18 02:07:26 <mircea_popescu>	Do you offer margin ?
Dec 18 02:07:27 <mircea_popescu>	No.
Dec 18 02:07:46 <Ukto>	yeah, then you get ppl who wont undertsand it and still ask if they can overbid
Dec 18 02:07:48 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 18 02:07:58 <Ukto>	Remember, BF has the retard users too
Dec 18 02:08:03 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 18 02:08:12 *	Ukto isnt lucky enough to be mpex and only have ppl with a clue
Dec 18 02:08:15 <Ukto>	or expect them
Dec 18 02:08:16 <Ukto>	to
Dec 18 02:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	Q: Can I put up bids adding up to more BTC than I have ? Can I sell shares I do not own ?
Dec 18 02:08:48 <mircea_popescu>	No.
Dec 18 02:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	This should go right after
Dec 18 02:09:19 <mircea_popescu>	Q. Is 1+3=4 ?
Dec 18 02:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	A. For most values of 4.
Dec 18 02:09:28 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 18 02:10:38 <Ukto>	kk, i got it covered
Dec 18 02:10:41 <Ukto>	ready for this? :P
Dec 18 02:10:52 <Ukto>	Q: Does the site allow Margining?
Dec 18 02:10:53 <Ukto>	A: No. Every bid reserves the total amount in either BTC or shares for that asset.
Dec 18 02:10:53 <Ukto>	Q: Can I put up more total bids than BTC/Shares available (Margining)?
Dec 18 02:10:53 <Ukto>	A: No. Every bid reserves the total amount in either BTC or shares for that asset.
Dec 18 02:10:53 <Ukto>	Q: Can I place bids/asks adding up to more BTC/Shares than I have?
Dec 18 02:10:53 <Ukto>	A: No. Every bid reserves the total amount in either BTC or shares for that asset.
Dec 18 02:10:54 <mircea_popescu>	*crickets*
Dec 18 02:11:05 <Ukto>	I don't think it will be missed. :P
Dec 18 02:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 18 02:11:26 <Ukto>	If you are going to cater to retarded people, speak their language
Dec 18 02:11:30 <Ukto>	in as many forms as possible
Dec 18 02:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1406452#msg1406452 if you didn't see it
Dec 18 02:15:52 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 18 02:15:56 <Ukto>	thats what I am working through
Dec 18 02:16:01 <Ukto>	alomst done with teh list
Dec 18 02:16:01 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 18 02:16:20 <Ukto>	about to post and let em know his wishes have been granted
Dec 18 02:16:52 <Ukto>	wasnt trying to call him dumb with teh faq questions
Dec 18 02:16:55 <Ukto>	was putting that in for others tho
Dec 18 02:16:57 <Ukto>	so i wont be missed
Dec 18 02:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	for my curiosity, why are you keeping weex and bf separate ?
Dec 18 02:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't it add to the overhead for everyone ?
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Dec 18 02:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, the forum delivers : "I destroyed my credit before i was 20. I need a fresh start. Bankruptcy attorneys in my area are telling me $800 for their service. I know i can do it myself for under $100 but i dont know what im doing."
Dec 18 02:21:13 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 18 02:45:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.15599534 = 155.9953 BTC [-]
Dec 18 02:45:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.11311101 = 113.111 BTC [-]
Dec 18 02:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.07697019 = 76.9702 BTC [-]
Dec 18 02:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 5 @ 0.17254855 = 0.8627 BTC [+]
Dec 18 02:45:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 495 @ 0.18305995 = 90.6147 BTC [+]
Dec 18 02:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00063171 = 10.2021 BTC [-]
Dec 18 02:51:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062847 = 2.7156 BTC [-]
Dec 18 02:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 462 @ 0.00062842 = 0.2903 BTC [-]
Dec 18 02:51:24 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1406815#msg1406815 <-- Requests answered
Dec 18 02:51:42 <Ukto>	Now.. to do jimmys request
Dec 18 02:55:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063149 = 2.7287 BTC [+]
Dec 18 02:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4990 @ 0.00063171 = 3.1522 BTC [+]
Dec 18 02:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1639 @ 0.00063658 = 1.0434 BTC [+]
Dec 18 03:20:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062871 = 2.7167 BTC [-]
Dec 18 03:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00062842 = 8.0124 BTC [-]
Dec 18 03:20:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00062523 = 0.9691 BTC [-]
Dec 18 03:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2729 @ 0.0006216 = 1.6963 BTC [-]
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Dec 18 03:54:36 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: mpex says it doesn't recognize my signature
Dec 18 03:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	are you using old verion of pympex ?
Dec 18 03:55:32 <maximian>	yeah, but I just tried issuing a stat manually, and it failed
Dec 18 03:55:42 <mircea_popescu>	hum
Dec 18 03:55:50 <mircea_popescu>	replace
Dec 18 03:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	self.mpex_url = 'http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php'
Dec 18 03:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	with
Dec 18 03:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	self.mpex_url = 'http://mpex.co'
Dec 18 03:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	or else get the new version (does the same thing)
Dec 18 03:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	and let me know
Dec 18 03:56:13 <maximian>	ok I"ll try
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Dec 18 03:58:59 <Namjies>	Hey mircea
Dec 18 03:59:22 <Namjies>	What do you think of this? http://www.namworld.net/portfolio/bitvps.com/
Dec 18 04:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	looks pretty slick
Dec 18 04:05:31 <Namjies>	Thanks. Trying hard. For now everyone else at BitVPS says http://wallet.bitvps.com/ is better.
Dec 18 04:06:40 <Namjies>	I'll still finish this one. Might take ~1 week of work. Hopefully it will get better.
Dec 18 04:06:51 <Namjies>	Otherwise I'm sure I'll find a taker for the template.
Dec 18 04:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	bulding stuff is how btc goes up, i'll tell you that.
Dec 18 04:08:32 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: I changed mpex_url, now it hangs when I run it. I tried issuing an order by following section 6 of the FAQ and pasted the clear signed message directly via the web interface, and it replies with "Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first."
Dec 18 04:09:05 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is weird.
Dec 18 04:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident maximian
Dec 18 04:09:09 <gribble>	Nick 'maximian', with hostmask 'maximian!~maximian@S01062cb05d389a4b.vc.shawcable.net', is not identified.
Dec 18 04:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	please ident or else send me an email signed with the respective key
Dec 18 04:09:41 <maximian>	how do I ident?
Dec 18 04:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	 ;;eauth with gribble
Dec 18 04:11:12 <maximian>	could I just send you the clear signed STAT command I issued?
Dec 18 04:11:29 <maximian>	;;eauth
Dec 18 04:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	hm. listen, but you're not supposed to paste clearsigned stuff in there
Dec 18 04:11:35 <gribble>	(eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
Dec 18 04:11:41 <maximian>	I didn't
Dec 18 04:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	you're supposed to clearsign it first, and then encrypt it with the exchange's key
Dec 18 04:11:44 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Dec 18 04:11:56 <maximian>	yep, I pasted the encrypted version
Dec 18 04:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	kk
Dec 18 04:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	email me somethign signed so i actually know it's you.
Dec 18 04:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	safety measure.
Dec 18 04:12:37 <maximian>	email addy?
Dec 18 04:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/office.jpg
Dec 18 04:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00368608 = 6.2663 BTC [+]
Dec 18 04:16:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4277 @ 0.00368848 = 15.7756 BTC [+]
Dec 18 04:16:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20023 @ 0.003699 = 74.0651 BTC [+]
Dec 18 04:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone's curious, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/
Dec 18 04:17:06 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: sent
Dec 18 04:35:05 <mircea_popescu>	maximian are you getting pms ?
Dec 18 04:36:22 <maximian>	sorry, was afk
Dec 18 04:36:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.003699 = 184.95 BTC [+]
Dec 18 04:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	a np
Dec 18 04:37:58 <dub>	;;ident dub
Dec 18 04:37:58 <gribble>	Nick 'dub', with hostmask 'dub!dub@unaffiliated/dub', is identified as user dub, with GPG key id 110C3582E5C480CF, key fingerprint B2956C98270DCC89E2E94A17110C3582E5C480CF, and bitcoin address None
Dec 18 04:38:02 <dub>	wowow
Dec 18 04:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	?
Dec 18 04:40:06 <dub>	I got around to registering
Dec 18 04:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062771 = 2.0714 BTC [+]
Dec 18 04:40:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062164 = 2.6861 BTC [-]
Dec 18 04:40:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6158 @ 0.0006216 = 3.8278 BTC [-]
Dec 18 04:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6171 @ 0.00061923 = 3.8213 BTC [-]
Dec 18 04:41:07 <mircea_popescu>	wd.
Dec 18 04:50:03 <Namjies>	http://www.namworld.net/portfolio/bitvps.com/vps
Dec 18 04:50:28 <Namjies>	clickable servers with specs inscribed for ordering
Dec 18 04:50:42 <Namjies>	I still need to make the specs styling.
Dec 18 04:50:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5284 @ 0.00061923 = 3.272 BTC [-]
Dec 18 04:50:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28766 @ 0.00061649 = 17.734 BTC [-]
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Dec 18 05:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15603 @ 0.00063186 = 9.8589 BTC [+]
Dec 18 05:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3047 @ 0.00061649 = 1.8784 BTC [-]
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Dec 18 06:03:05 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: ping
Dec 18 06:03:42 <Ukto>	Pong!
Dec 18 06:03:43 <Ukto>	:)
Dec 18 06:05:03 <mircea_popescu>	is mpex slow for anyone ?
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Dec 18 06:10:16 <EskimoBob>	stop reloading that portn page mircea_popescu and it will speed up the rest
Dec 18 06:10:18 <EskimoBob>	:)
Dec 18 06:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	no, actually, i think some scriptkiddie is trying his version of a dos. the server's been doing 1-1.5Gbps for the past hour
Dec 18 06:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't seem to be doing anything tho
Dec 18 06:11:51 <EskimoBob>	tail and/or grep the logs and see
Dec 18 06:13:52 <EskimoBob>	did anyone receive the updated lists from James last night?
Dec 18 06:14:32 <EskimoBob>	too early to ask that probably, most are still sleeping over there
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Dec 18 06:20:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00063302 = 6.2669 BTC [+]
Dec 18 06:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063657 = 2.7506 BTC [+]
Dec 18 06:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7145 @ 0.00063658 = 4.5484 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 06:28:49 <Ukto>	burnside: there?
Dec 18 06:29:24 <Ukto>	A friend on skype msgd me saying he got a claim email, logged into the 'trash' account, withdrew, and ended up with a ?-0.000195 balance.
Dec 18 06:29:50 <Ukto>	looks like the now 'free withdraws' is charging accounts the bitcoin transaction fee.
Dec 18 06:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 40000 @ 0.003699 = 147.96 BTC [+]
Dec 18 06:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 maybe it's worth having a chat with http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet
Dec 18 06:35:50 <mircea_popescu>	they probably have some working encryption
Dec 18 06:37:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.INKG] 244 @ 0.06858952 = 16.7358 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061651 = 2.6639 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20483 @ 0.00061649 = 12.6276 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00061612 = 10.3816 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30003 @ 0.00061502 = 18.4524 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00061483 = 9.0073 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00061242 = 8.5739 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1572 @ 0.00061132 = 0.961 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00061129 = 8.2524 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00061086 = 6.7195 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7098 @ 0.00061056 = 4.3338 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00061011 = 1.6473 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12118 @ 0.00061003 = 7.3923 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00060983 = 20.3683 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00060981 = 7.8361 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36978 @ 0.00060942 = 22.5351 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22350 @ 0.00060923 = 13.6163 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8140 @ 0.00060923 = 4.9591 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1391 @ 0.00060908 = 0.8472 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17079 @ 0.00060901 = 10.4013 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90312 @ 0.000609 = 55 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10760 @ 0.0006088 = 6.5507 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30457 @ 0.00060872 = 18.5398 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2015 @ 0.00060866 = 1.2264 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22317 @ 0.00060852 = 13.5803 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00060846 = 13.021 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7071 @ 0.00060833 = 4.3015 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00060833 = 0.6083 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14882 @ 0.00060832 = 9.053 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00060826 = 16.423 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9203 @ 0.00060799 = 5.5953 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00060789 = 13.1304 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00060758 = 10.7845 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00060758 = 17.0122 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00060716 = 7.8931 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:44 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 18 06:40:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20638 @ 0.00060716 = 12.5306 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11348 @ 0.00060692 = 6.8873 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00060666 = 19.5345 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30910 @ 0.00060665 = 18.7516 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00060638 = 5.8819 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00060626 = 15.7931 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00060618 = 11.0325 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00060612 = 10.9102 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00060604 = 11.7875 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00060599 = 17.7555 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3184 @ 0.00060599 = 1.9295 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10353 @ 0.00060578 = 6.2716 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00060543 = 0.9687 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13125 @ 0.00060537 = 7.9455 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00060513 = 18.638 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4313 @ 0.00060482 = 2.6086 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	omg the jig is up
Dec 18 06:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26694 @ 0.00060471 = 16.1421 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20182 @ 0.00060468 = 12.2037 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:41:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00060437 = 9.9419 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00060405 = 10.3293 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00060386 = 14.7644 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18703 @ 0.00060354 = 11.288 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062202 = 2.6877 BTC [+]
Dec 18 06:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.00062237 = 2.7876 BTC [+]
Dec 18 06:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060376 = 2.6088 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3297 @ 0.00060354 = 1.9899 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.0006034 = 13.1843 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22482 @ 0.00060295 = 13.5555 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00060291 = 7.1143 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21398 @ 0.00060289 = 12.9006 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00060286 = 2.2909 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.00060278 = 13.2913 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00060256 = 9.641 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.0006023 = 14.3347 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23201 @ 0.00060199 = 13.9668 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.00060164 = 9.5962 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00060146 = 14.7658 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00060081 = 11.4154 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12830 @ 0.00060079 = 7.7081 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00060052 = 5.4047 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00060029 = 22.1507 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00060015 = 8.102 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00059957 = 2.5482 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00059934 = 5.8136 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.0005993 = 7.0717 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15259 @ 0.000599 = 9.1401 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00059899 = 4.3726 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00059807 = 4.635 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19336 @ 0.00059804 = 11.5637 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00059792 = 1.8536 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00059784 = 10.0138 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00059782 = 13.451 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22370 @ 0.00059731 = 13.3618 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0005972 = 15.8258 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00059689 = 3.5217 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00059656 = 11.0364 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3256 @ 0.00059655 = 1.9424 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:42:38 <Ukto>	wtf
Dec 18 06:42:43 <pigeons>	someone taking profits to put into MPOE bonds
Dec 18 06:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22444 @ 0.00059655 = 13.389 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00059631 = 13.4766 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49100 @ 0.00059618 = 29.2724 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00059589 = 6.376 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00059566 = 6.1353 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00059565 = 10.4239 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00059556 = 14.6508 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00059541 = 17.9814 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9034 @ 0.0005938 = 5.3644 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27509 @ 0.00059329 = 16.3208 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00059328 = 6.9414 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00059325 = 8.4242 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00059201 = 1.776 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00059081 = 11.9934 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.00059055 = 11.7815 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36009 @ 0.00059 = 21.2453 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	maybe someone's shorting it
Dec 18 06:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	what's this been like 3-4mn shares ?
Dec 18 06:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	WHO LOANED THEM OUT!
Dec 18 06:44:06 <pigeons>	i would take profits, but what am i gonna buy?
Dec 18 06:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons this is why i don't add more assets.
Dec 18 06:44:51 <pigeons>	:)
Dec 18 06:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Dec 18 06:45:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00059 / 0.00061393 / 0.00063658 (3496257 shares, 2,146.48 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053446 / 0.00063995 (102053951 shares, 54,544.36 BTC)
Dec 18 06:45:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3050 @ 0.003699 = 11.282 BTC [+]
Dec 18 06:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	heh, 1 day avg still over 61 so nyah!
Dec 18 06:45:29 <pigeons>	its just mircea_popescu trading with himself to try and look bigger than bfl
Dec 18 06:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	why, bfl is trading with itself ?
Dec 18 06:46:12 <pigeons>	they are doing  something with themself
Dec 18 06:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	whens the next bfl dramadate ? 14th jan ?
Dec 18 06:48:06 <pigeons>	"won't ship before jan 14" so they are still on schedule when they dont ship then
Dec 18 06:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like bfl
Dec 18 06:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	how's your btcjam investments coming along btw ?
Dec 18 06:48:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00059 = 59 BTC [-]
Dec 18 06:48:54 <pigeons>	i made one to jurov which he promptly repaid and couldn't find any more
Dec 18 06:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	in a sense btc finance is locked down. too few worthy assets.
Dec 18 06:50:53 <Ukto>	I like that CoinBr.MPBPT fund on BitFunder. it looks like it will do good. >:P
Dec 18 06:50:57 <Ukto>	>,> <,<
Dec 18 06:53:55 <jurov>	haha, it promptly became >90% of bitfunder trade volume
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Dec 18 07:04:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00059 = 13.7175 BTC [-]
Dec 18 07:05:09 <jurov>	hi mircea popescu, i'm checking your "bonds historical data" against my own spreadsheet
Dec 18 07:05:28 <jurov>	and Oct 12 ROI effective doesn't make sense to me
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Dec 18 07:09:38 <jurov>	or is here anybody else who invested in october bonds?
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Dec 18 07:11:38 <jurov>	*rereads october statement* indeed there was a loss and my spreadsheet lies :/
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Dec 18 07:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00058989 = 2.9495 BTC [-]
Dec 18 07:16:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00058988 = 2.625 BTC [-]
Dec 18 07:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1233 @ 0.00058982 = 0.7272 BTC [-]
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Dec 18 07:28:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11469 @ 0.00059 = 6.7667 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 07:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	jurov do tell ?
Dec 18 07:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	a ok lol
Dec 18 07:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	now put it on reddit.
Dec 18 08:04:58 <EskimoBob>	btc diff has dropped back to september level. Lets see, when the fear kicks in and stops the fall.
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Dec 18 08:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 100 @ 0.21 = 21 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 08:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17707 @ 0.00059 = 10.4471 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 08:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00058983 = 5.8983 BTC [-]
Dec 18 08:37:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 673 @ 0.00058982 = 0.3969 BTC [-]
Dec 18 08:38:43 <jurov>	what fear has to do with hashrate?
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Dec 18 08:48:46 <jurov>	mircea, as you wish: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/151ujm/mpoe_bonds_only_btc_investment_that_is_13_months/
Dec 18 09:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	eee
Dec 18 09:02:33 <jurov>	lol
Dec 18 09:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00363031 = 4.1749 BTC [-]
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Dec 18 09:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00362384 = 5.7981 BTC [-]
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Dec 18 09:30:39 <thestringpuller>	whoa when did spoe plummet?
Dec 18 09:30:52 <thestringpuller>	jurov: I wanna make an Android app for CoinBr
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Dec 18 09:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller mod6 is working on an android app for mpex too
Dec 18 09:33:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00058983 = 5.8983 BTC [+]
Dec 18 09:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00058982 = 5.4263 BTC [-]
Dec 18 09:33:30 <thestringpuller>	can I be a part of it?
Dec 18 09:33:34 <thestringpuller>	I like Android programming
Dec 18 09:34:24 <thestringpuller>	LOL the jig is up
Dec 18 09:34:26 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine so, you should talk to him
Dec 18 09:35:42 <thestringpuller>	is this what you guys were talking about? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/151ujm/mpoe_bonds_only_btc_investment_that_is_13_months ?
Dec 18 09:36:52 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 100000 * .1
Dec 18 09:36:53 <gribble>	10000
Dec 18 09:38:35 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: lemme buy some trilemma credits real quick while you're around
Dec 18 09:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	sure
Dec 18 09:39:59 <thestringpuller>	how much per credit?
Dec 18 09:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2794 @ 0.00058982 = 1.648 BTC [-]
Dec 18 09:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7406 @ 0.00058844 = 4.358 BTC [-]
Dec 18 09:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	a dollah gets you 1k iirc ? what's the page say ?
Dec 18 09:40:37 <thestringpuller>	MPOE needs another 4,000 BTC dividend month...
Dec 18 09:40:52 <thestringpuller>	yea
Dec 18 09:40:57 <thestringpuller>	so .1 BTC?
Dec 18 09:41:01 <thestringpuller>	what address do I send to?
Dec 18 09:41:25 <thestringpuller>	Lol "If you won't pay for nice things you can't have nice things because there can't be nice things."
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Dec 18 09:45:05 <jurov>	thestringpuller, let's talk about the app later, i'm going afk for few hours now
Dec 18 09:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00058844 = 5.5902 BTC [-]
Dec 18 09:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Dec 18 09:50:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.23689, Best ask: 13.24600, Bid-ask spread: 0.00911, Last trade: 13.24600, 24 hour volume: 29923.83800899, 24 hour low: 13.02386, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.26171
Dec 18 10:10:46 <Ukto>	jurov
Dec 18 10:10:46 <thestringpuller>	The MPOE bubble is popping unfortunately
Dec 18 10:10:51 <thestringpuller>	he's afk
Dec 18 10:10:58 <Ukto>	already sold almost 250 shares of the MPBPT
Dec 18 10:11:02 <thestringpuller>	Ukto how bout that FF7 ;)
Dec 18 10:11:06 <Ukto>	geg
Dec 18 10:11:16 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: havent had a chance, just added a depth chart to weex
Dec 18 10:11:18 <Ukto>	and other stuff
Dec 18 10:11:21 <Ukto>	so...
Dec 18 10:11:25 <Ukto>	whats up with MPOE?
Dec 18 10:12:14 <thestringpuller>	someone sold a lot last night into the bids
Dec 18 10:12:25 <thestringpuller>	well like 6 hours ago or something
Dec 18 10:12:30 <Ukto>	yeah, i saw that
Dec 18 10:12:32 <Ukto>	dnt know why tho
Dec 18 10:12:44 <thestringpuller>	someone borrowed a bunch and closed a short?
Dec 18 10:13:13 <jcpham>	http://codinginmysleep.com/how-i-was-almost-adam/
Dec 18 10:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	250 shares = 250 btc ?
Dec 18 10:13:17 <jcpham>	like that blawg
Dec 18 10:14:30 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: 25btc
Dec 18 10:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	so 1/4 of minimum done. this is pretty good.
Dec 18 10:15:16 <Ukto>	well
Dec 18 10:15:18 <Ukto>	more like 20btc
Dec 18 10:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/151ujm/mpoe_bonds_only_btc_investment_that_is_13_months/ vote jurov's reddit lol
Dec 18 10:15:26 <Ukto>	so 1/5th in under 24hrs
Dec 18 10:15:54 <Ukto>	i had a new user
Dec 18 10:15:56 <Ukto>	prolly came from that
Dec 18 10:15:57 <Ukto>	in ru
Dec 18 10:16:03 <Ukto>	he broke his weex link
Dec 18 10:16:10 <Ukto>	deposited 1btc into BF
Dec 18 10:16:15 <Ukto>	it clearly told him it was not broken
Dec 18 10:16:20 <Ukto>	i watched in teh logs as he forced it :P
Dec 18 10:16:29 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: given the way the auction system works
Dec 18 10:16:32 <Ukto>	then he sent in a ticket
Dec 18 10:16:40 <thestringpuller>	wouldn't I be guarenteed to be a bond holder if I put an interest of 1%
Dec 18 10:16:48 <Ukto>	"no deposit! not instant! you lied?!?"
Dec 18 10:16:57 <Ukto>	within 3 minutes I replied that it was fixed and his deposit was available
Dec 18 10:17:07 <Ukto>	and that his broken shit is fixed
Dec 18 10:17:32 <kakobreklaa>	how can you break weex link?
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Dec 18 10:18:10 <thestringpuller>	;;google weex link
Dec 18 10:18:11 <gribble>	Cisco WebEx Web Conferencing, Online Meetings, Desktop Sharing ...: <http://www.webex.com/>; Knowledge Base - My Resources - WebEx: <https://kb.webex.com/?articleId=WBX20856>; Webex connect Download |299844 - Cisco Support Community: <https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/299844>
Dec 18 10:18:20 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 18 10:18:25 <Ukto>	the weexchange merchant link
Dec 18 10:18:34 <Ukto>	you dont deposit/withdraw btc to BF
Dec 18 10:18:41 <Ukto>	you have to signupo for an account at weexchange :D
Dec 18 10:18:46 <pigeons>	you are the weex link. goodbye
Dec 18 10:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol ukto, nice story.
Dec 18 10:19:01 <kakobreklaa>	pigeons :DD
Dec 18 10:19:07 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: I am surprised as hell, no one has made a big deal out of having to sing up for weexchange
Dec 18 10:19:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5494 @ 0.00058844 = 3.2329 BTC [-]
Dec 18 10:19:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24854 @ 0.00058738 = 14.5987 BTC [-]
Dec 18 10:19:12 <Ukto>	ppl have asked if it was safe..
Dec 18 10:19:15 <thestringpuller>	maaaan
Dec 18 10:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	you have no idea what i'm dealing with.
Dec 18 10:19:19 <Ukto>	but none have been mad
Dec 18 10:19:22 <thestringpuller>	MPOE just won't recover
Dec 18 10:19:26 <pigeons>	and i want to murder the happy couple on the login page
Dec 18 10:19:28 <thestringpuller>	maybe tomorrow someone will buy up a bunch of shares
Dec 18 10:19:42 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: did you release some earlier? :P
Dec 18 10:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller people have had a lot of grief waiting with mpex lol
Dec 18 10:19:57 <kakobreklaa>	16:18.30 ( Ukto ) you dont deposit/withdraw btc to BF
Dec 18 10:19:59 <kakobreklaa>	wait what
Dec 18 10:20:05 <kakobreklaa>	in order to fund BF account
Dec 18 10:20:08 <kakobreklaa>	i must send to weex?
Dec 18 10:20:10 <Ukto>	pigeons: I have a slightly diff pic. same couple, diff pose. :P
Dec 18 10:20:16 <Ukto>	kakobreklaa: damn straight
Dec 18 10:20:19 <kakobreklaa>	lulz
Dec 18 10:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135583607960.jpg use her.
Dec 18 10:20:30 <Ukto>	weex has had almost 100+ new signups in a week
Dec 18 10:20:36 <Ukto>	is that teh girl in the park or w/e?
Dec 18 10:20:38 <Ukto>	bending over? :P
Dec 18 10:20:43 <jcpham>	nice
Dec 18 10:20:55 <Ukto>	oh, nope
Dec 18 10:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	it's one of the girls bending over. as girls are wont to do.
Dec 18 10:21:05 <kakobreklaa>	being silly to your users is nothing to brag about
Dec 18 10:21:09 <Ukto>	what is that blurred out thing next to her? a kid?
Dec 18 10:21:21 <Ukto>	oh
Dec 18 10:21:22 <Ukto>	advertisements
Dec 18 10:21:26 <Ukto>	i see it on some bottles now
Dec 18 10:21:28 <pigeons>	omg does cicicicicu know you have nekkid pictures?
Dec 18 10:22:13 <kakobreklaa>	mircea_popescu omfg why the fuck are the drinks censored
Dec 18 10:22:28 <kakobreklaa>	"you can watch pussy but you cant watch coke"
Dec 18 10:22:34 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 18 10:22:38 <Ukto>	thats what confused me
Dec 18 10:23:34 <Ukto>	oh man. I just realised both popular assets on BF rely on mpex :P
Dec 18 10:23:38 <Ukto>	.. GO MPEX GO! :P
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Dec 18 10:25:49 <jcpham>	i like weex
Dec 18 10:25:56 <jcpham>	especially those instant payouts
Dec 18 10:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	drinks are bad mkay
Dec 18 10:26:22 <pigeons>	ooh how about weex->mpex vendor link
Dec 18 10:26:37 <Ukto>	define mpex vender?
Dec 18 10:26:56 <pigeons>	same as hp or bf
Dec 18 10:27:21 <Ukto>	I will be opening the merchatn api in jan/feb
Dec 18 10:27:21 <jcpham>	https://vimeo.com/54180438
Dec 18 10:27:30 <jcpham>	weex and hashpower get featured in that video
Dec 18 10:27:33 <Ukto>	pigeons: yeah, but what other sites?
Dec 18 10:27:44 <jcpham>	hurry and watch it before i mark it private again
Dec 18 10:27:52 <pigeons>	just say, "i will be opening the merchant api when bfl ships"
Dec 18 10:27:57 <Ukto>	This is a private video.
Dec 18 10:28:03 <pigeons>	Ukto: the mpex site
Dec 18 10:28:05 <jcpham>	Babab
Dec 18 10:28:14 <jcpham>	gogogogo
Dec 18 10:28:16 <jcpham>	quick
Dec 18 10:28:17 <Ukto>	pigeons: talk to the boss man over there
Dec 18 10:28:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/idiots-and-socialists-kill-people-armed-citizens-save-lives/
Dec 18 10:29:52 <Ukto>	jchysk: whos video si that?
Dec 18 10:30:01 <Ukto>	yours?
Dec 18 10:30:22 <jcpham>	too much of mine
Dec 18 10:30:23 <Ukto>	and why does it look like old 35mm film?
Dec 18 10:30:27 <jcpham>	didn't edit myself out enough
Dec 18 10:30:40 <kakobreklaa>	is shaking like a crack whore deprived of crack
Dec 18 10:30:41 <jcpham>	because it needs to look old because the music is old
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Dec 18 10:30:55 <Ukto>	theres music?
Dec 18 10:31:01 *	jcpham dies
Dec 18 10:31:06 <kakobreklaa>	music is good :)
Dec 18 10:31:16 <Ukto>	i dont even see an vol control on the video
Dec 18 10:31:24 <kakobreklaa>	go mouseover it
Dec 18 10:31:24 <jcpham>	vimeo sucks
Dec 18 10:31:34 <jcpham>	youtube pulled it because of coptright
Dec 18 10:31:49 <Ukto>	copyright??
Dec 18 10:31:54 <Ukto>	whos rights dfid you infringe on ?
Dec 18 10:31:56 <Ukto>	rfngjkdghd?
Dec 18 10:32:04 <kakobreklaa>	pink floyds
Dec 18 10:32:10 <Ukto>	oh
Dec 18 10:32:11 <Ukto>	AHH
Dec 18 10:32:14 <Ukto>	i can guess the song then
Dec 18 10:32:15 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 18 10:32:27 <Ukto>	based on all the $$'s
Dec 18 10:32:30 <kakobreklaa>	:)
Dec 18 10:33:26 <Ukto>	yeah, you should def. add bitfunder :P
Dec 18 10:34:15 <Ukto>	I guess the russian is happy
Dec 18 10:34:23 <Ukto>	already spent his whole 1btc
Dec 18 10:34:24 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 18 10:34:29 <Ukto>	all but like 4k satoshi
Dec 18 10:34:52 <Ukto>	on sdice no less
Dec 18 10:34:58 <Ukto>	guess he wasnt from reddit :P
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Dec 18 10:37:15 <kakobreklaa>	;;ticker s.dice
Dec 18 10:37:16 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Dec 18 10:37:20 <kakobreklaa>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 18 10:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00360924 / 0.0037 (984870 shares, 3,554.64 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00341118 / 0.0037 (6611778 shares, 22,553.98 BTC)
Dec 18 10:37:32 <jcpham>	poorly edited
Dec 18 10:37:36 <jcpham>	shot with cell
Dec 18 10:39:21 <jcpham>	edited with http://www.openshotvideo.com/
Dec 18 10:39:31 <jcpham>	i actually did all that to test the software
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Dec 18 10:43:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00058971 = 2.5481 BTC [+]
Dec 18 10:43:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18428 @ 0.00059 = 10.8725 BTC [+]
Dec 18 10:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2601 @ 0.00059017 = 1.535 BTC [+]
Dec 18 10:44:26 <thestringpuller>	there we go
Dec 18 10:44:27 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 18 10:51:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13469484178.jpg now this is what i call limo service.
Dec 18 10:53:15 <thestringpuller>	yay porn
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Dec 18 10:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons theres one for you http://paracoin.com/
Dec 18 10:58:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Dec 18 10:59:01 <gribble>	Time since last block: 18 minutes and 15 seconds
Dec 18 10:59:11 <thestringpuller>	where do you find this shit mircea?
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Dec 18 11:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	i have people
Dec 18 11:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00058998 = 2.5493 BTC [-]
Dec 18 11:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7808 @ 0.00059017 = 4.608 BTC [+]
Dec 18 11:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28871 @ 0.00059079 = 17.0567 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 11:18:22 <Ukto>	re: limo pic, her hand is super scary looking
Dec 18 11:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	kinda gnarly
Dec 18 11:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	maybe she's a pianist
Dec 18 11:19:36 <Ukto>	besides: http://betsofbitco.in/ is a better site for betting
Dec 18 11:19:38 <Ukto>	i think
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Dec 18 11:21:56 <kakobreklaa>	theres a better one.
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Dec 18 11:50:22 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: thanks for the link.  i actually like Spinner much better and I've been looking through some of their code - the schildbach has lost my btc at least 2x.
Dec 18 11:51:59 <mod6>	Spinner has been pretty great for me so far... and I've been looking through the code.  Its using the BCCAPI which has some KeyManagement stuff in there.
Dec 18 11:53:06 <mod6>	I need to look into it more.
Dec 18 11:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Dec 18 11:53:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Dec 18 11:53:30 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 58 seconds
Dec 18 11:53:30 <Doffx>	Cool, made 20% return on my Sdice.
Dec 18 11:53:52 <Doffx>	Took longer than I wanted but im happy to come out ahead.
Dec 18 11:54:05 <kakobreklaa>	playing it?
Dec 18 11:54:29 <Doffx>	No, on my passthrough
Dec 18 11:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	you have a passthrough too ?!
Dec 18 11:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	o wait, you held shares nm
Dec 18 11:56:43 <Ukto>	did sdice just issue divs?
Dec 18 11:57:21 <Ukto>	Doffx: or do youmean from terras ?
Dec 18 11:57:28 <Doffx>	No mine all sold on bitfunder
Dec 18 11:57:33 <smickles>	lol: https://twitter.com/icbit_trades
Dec 18 11:57:37 <Doffx>	At a good profit
Dec 18 11:58:04 <Doffx>	Divs for Sdice is like on the  5th or 4th of each month I thought
Dec 18 11:58:26 <Ukto>	smickles: https://twitter.com/BitFunder ;)
Dec 18 11:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Dec 18 11:58:35 <smickles>	last night, i was dreaming that I needed to wake up for the s.dice divs
Dec 18 11:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	aww!
Dec 18 11:58:45 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 18 11:58:52 <Ukto>	your concentrating too much
Dec 18 11:59:41 <mircea_popescu>	ok so a guy paid for trilema credits two hours ago. i credited him. transaction still unconfirmed
Dec 18 11:59:42 <smickles>	Ukto: have you told kakobreklaa , is it going to be pulled into assbot ?
Dec 18 11:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	I WAS SCAMMED
Dec 18 11:59:54 <Ukto>	smickles: he wunt do it
Dec 18 12:00:00 <kakobreklaa>	lol
Dec 18 12:00:01 <Ukto>	cause twatter will done day end the api
Dec 18 12:00:04 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 18 12:00:05 <kakobreklaa>	whats wrong with you people
Dec 18 12:00:30 <Ukto>	smickles: i made that format just so all he would have to do is swing the old glbse code to it :P
Dec 18 12:00:31 <smickles>	Doffx: section e and f explain it in detail http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE
Dec 18 12:00:36 <Ukto>	apparently its too much work >:P~
Dec 18 12:01:02 <Doffx>	Its ok smickles I no longer own any.
Dec 18 12:01:05 <kakobreklaa>	twitter is no good, it eating trades even if the msgs are unique ( mircea_popescu made the complaint)
Dec 18 12:01:21 <kakobreklaa>	i already wrote new api for this shit that is made for just for it
Dec 18 12:01:23 <Ukto>	ah
Dec 18 12:01:26 <Doffx>	It will now be put in to my master plan investment
Dec 18 12:01:31 <Ukto>	i figured twatter just didnt like MP either :P
Dec 18 12:01:36 <kakobreklaa>	and i told this at least 3 times in the chan
Dec 18 12:01:42 <kakobreklaa>	this is the last time.
Dec 18 12:01:43 <jcpham>	http://mpex.co/ is a url redirect
Dec 18 12:01:46 <jcpham>	?
Dec 18 12:01:55 <smickles>	kakobreklaa: i know, but something is infinitely better than nothing
Dec 18 12:01:55 <Doffx>	I am finally 15 BTC in the Green after all my equipment and investments
Dec 18 12:01:57 <Ukto>	I honestly dont care about twatter
Dec 18 12:02:13 <Doffx>	Christmas came early
Dec 18 12:02:20 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: did you check to see if you got double spent?
Dec 18 12:02:29 <kakobreklaa>	smickles lets just do it the proper way.
Dec 18 12:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	smickles nah. .1 btc
Dec 18 12:04:57 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i mean to say that it would be interesting if you were double spent
Dec 18 12:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Dec 18 12:05:30 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131373.msg1407273#msg1407273
Dec 18 12:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Dec 18 12:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	-pr is now favicon
Dec 18 12:06:23 <smickles>	lol
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Dec 18 12:12:06 <Ukto>	4,200 of the g.sdice asset just traded on BF
Dec 18 12:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101838.msg1407306#msg1407306
Dec 18 12:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	why is shrem so defensive
Dec 18 12:14:12 <pigeons>	"Posting in this thread and coming up with opinions and ideas are stupid and just distract us from the real work we need to do.
Dec 18 12:14:32 <Ukto>	oh.. i see lol
Dec 18 12:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	i think maybe he's working more than 8 hour days
Dec 18 12:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	which is unhygienic.
Dec 18 12:14:53 <pigeons>	uhoh, he said my magic words though
Dec 18 12:14:56 <pigeons>	"We have posted many updates, always been transparent, never scammed anyone, and always have done what we say we will do. "
Dec 18 12:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	any girls here willing to lend a consoling tit ?
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Dec 18 12:18:21 <kakobreklaa>	18:12.02 ( Ukto ) 4,200 of the g.sdice asset just traded on BF < assbot de manual.
Dec 18 12:18:40 <kakobreklaa>	:)
Dec 18 12:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Dec 18 12:20:22 <Ukto>	<-- assHOLE
Dec 18 12:21:55 <thestringpuller>	You are ukto
Dec 18 12:22:03 <thestringpuller>	cause you don't want to get me no FF7
Dec 18 12:22:05 <thestringpuller>	WAAAAAh
Dec 18 12:22:07 <thestringpuller>	WAAAAAh
Dec 18 12:22:10 <thestringpuller>	<- crybaby
Dec 18 12:22:19 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 18 12:22:28 <Ukto>	i got like 13 things to get done today :P
Dec 18 12:22:41 <jcpham>	better get started
Dec 18 12:22:49 <Ukto>	I have to now drop off some bday invites for the kids party @ school
Dec 18 12:22:52 <Ukto>	cause wife didnt send em
Dec 18 12:22:56 <Ukto>	dumbass.. -_-
Dec 18 12:23:00 <jcpham>	replace her!
Dec 18 12:24:10 <thestringpuller>	make your wife find the FF7
Dec 18 12:24:13 <thestringpuller>	;)
Dec 18 12:25:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: the .1 btc should be confirming now
Dec 18 12:25:58 <thestringpuller>	2 confirmations
Dec 18 12:26:09 <thestringpuller>	I'm a cheap schmuck and don't give no fees to no miners
Dec 18 12:26:23 <mircea_popescu>	<Ukto> i got like 13 things to get done today :P << it is impolite to refer to women as "things"
Dec 18 12:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	they are people too you know.
Dec 18 12:28:06 <thestringpuller>	mod6: you still around?
Dec 18 12:28:20 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: shh
Dec 18 12:28:24 <Ukto>	my wife might hear  you
Dec 18 12:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	she doesn't believe women are people ?
Dec 18 12:39:58 <Ukto>	jcpham
Dec 18 12:40:00 <Ukto>	you still there?>
Dec 18 12:40:07 <jcpham>	yes
Dec 18 12:40:14 <Ukto>	can you unlock that video again?
Dec 18 12:40:17 <Ukto>	wanted to show Doffx :P
Dec 18 12:40:33 <Doffx>	I need a tutorial on wex
Dec 18 12:40:36 <Doffx>	weex too
Dec 18 12:40:45 *	Ukto hands Doffx a box of matches
Dec 18 12:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/let-me-show-you-why-i-like-bitcoin/ < Ukto you're there. so is pigeons and thestringpuller fellow
Dec 18 12:40:55 <Ukto>	just click 'use' on the box and point at weex
Dec 18 12:40:55 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 18 12:40:59 <jcpham>	i did a bad job editing my name out
Dec 18 12:42:42 <thestringpuller>	I'm so glad I bought Trilemma credits
Dec 18 12:42:50 <thestringpuller>	Oh God this article was worth the break
Dec 18 12:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 18 12:43:39 <Doffx>	Haha Pink Floyd I love it aleady jcpham
Dec 18 12:43:47 <thestringpuller>	AAPL went down 30%
Dec 18 12:43:54 <thestringpuller>	when the foxconn scandal happened
Dec 18 12:44:13 <thestringpuller>	Mr. Cook should have said: "The Jig is up"
Dec 18 12:44:21 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Dec 18 12:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	would have kicked ass
Dec 18 12:45:37 <thestringpuller>	Some guy representing a firm came on the news shortly after the drop from nearly 700+ a share to 500 a share and said, "We have faith in AAPL, we have begun selling puts for the winter season"
Dec 18 12:45:47 *	thestringpuller facepalm
Dec 18 12:46:24 <thestringpuller>	I do wonder Mr. Popescu, where is all that BTC going to end up?
Dec 18 12:46:36 <Doffx>	Its ok apple will Litigate themselves some more profit and all will be ok
Dec 18 12:46:49 <Doffx>	Great little vid jcpham
Dec 18 12:47:08 <jcpham>	except it has my nick in it in a few places
Dec 18 12:47:10 <jcpham>	but yeah
Dec 18 12:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller donated to the foundation i'm sure
Dec 18 12:48:59 <thestringpuller>	it's a good theory though to dump profits from MPOE and put it into MBOR bonds given the statistics
Dec 18 12:49:26 <thestringpuller>	Also: "Icbit.se offers a BTC/USD future which I wouldn’t however recomend." Makes me lol
Dec 18 12:49:33 <thestringpuller>	you tore the owner a new one if I recall
Dec 18 12:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	in their defense they did pay up
Dec 18 12:49:46 <mircea_popescu>	so maybe they fix ti for the future
Dec 18 12:50:00 <thestringpuller>	like GLBSE fixed it?
Dec 18 12:50:00 <thestringpuller>	:P
Dec 18 12:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	well who kniows
Dec 18 12:51:06 <thestringpuller>	I guess the way I see it, is broad spectrum MPEX is the only thing I haven't lost money on.
Dec 18 12:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	well, never too late to start.
Dec 18 12:51:46 <thestringpuller>	trust and loyalty are hard things to build in a world with little regulation
Dec 18 12:52:15 <thestringpuller>	with the insurance geniuses, and welfare kids who think they are brilliant stock brokers...
Dec 18 12:53:01 <mircea_popescu>	true
Dec 18 12:53:27 <thestringpuller>	your barriers to entry are proven I'd say
Dec 18 12:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	so far.
Dec 18 12:56:41 <thestringpuller>	august was a tough month eh?
Dec 18 12:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	pirate month.
Dec 18 12:57:14 <thestringpuller>	"I. MPOE a suferit ceea ce s-ar putea foarte bine sa fie insider trading." <- I'm more referring to.
Dec 18 12:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4 @ 0.00059079 = 0.0024 BTC [+]
Dec 18 12:58:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00059227 = 1.303 BTC [+]
Dec 18 12:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	you know there's an english version underneath
Dec 18 13:01:34 <thestringpuller>	Ah. But what of this insider trading?
Dec 18 13:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059964 = 2.591 BTC [+]
Dec 18 13:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12829 @ 0.0005998 = 7.6948 BTC [+]
Dec 18 13:03:26 <thestringpuller>	It sound like someone who knew pirate was going to default, manipulated the options market...
Dec 18 13:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	tis possible.
Dec 18 13:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.nanaimogold.com/ win
Dec 18 13:11:14 <thestringpuller>	I've been reading your code review business idea article again
Dec 18 13:11:56 <thestringpuller>	I didn't realize it was specifically targeted to BTC based code projects.
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Dec 18 13:12:40 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Dec 18 13:13:56 <thestringpuller>	It sounds like something that MTGox really needed...
Dec 18 13:13:57 <thestringpuller>	heh
Dec 18 13:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Dec 18 13:15:41 <thestringpuller>	I guess it makes sense. For example the issue they found in Ukto's code on bitfunder
Dec 18 13:15:44 <thestringpuller>	with the bid issue
Dec 18 13:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	there's numerous examples.
Dec 18 13:16:43 <thestringpuller>	the insurance side is where the real profitability comes in
Dec 18 13:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	it'd have saved the bitdaytrade investors 4k btc if they insisted on an audit
Dec 18 13:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	and had where to have the code audited
Dec 18 13:17:05 <thestringpuller>	but how does one compete with say Norton?
Dec 18 13:17:16 <thestringpuller>	or other security firms who do this for contracts worth millions
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Dec 18 13:17:24 <thestringpuller>	the whole "it's cheaper in BTC"
Dec 18 13:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	nobody at norton has a clue abouyt bitcoin
Dec 18 13:17:30 <kakobreklaa>	bitdaytrade would have never go out live if it would be a subject of code review
Dec 18 13:18:17 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Dec 18 13:18:47 <thestringpuller>	but it's all about reputation
Dec 18 13:18:55 <thestringpuller>	if someone creates and exchange
Dec 18 13:19:15 <thestringpuller>	gets audited by this company, its the willingness to ensure your audit?
Dec 18 13:19:19 <thestringpuller>	that gives you credibility?
Dec 18 13:19:55 <thestringpuller>	because my biggest fear is what if you don't catch that small bug
Dec 18 13:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	well, you get the audit and possibly insurance.
Dec 18 13:20:07 <thestringpuller>	someone injects some assembly and finds a huge bug
Dec 18 13:20:18 <thestringpuller>	millions of dollars lost
Dec 18 13:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Dec 18 13:20:36 <thestringpuller>	you'd have to have thorough penetration testing before the audit is "approved"
Dec 18 13:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	insurance is insurance.
Dec 18 13:20:49 <thestringpuller>	possibly even continuation ethical hacking
Dec 18 13:20:59 <mircea_popescu>	the point of insurance is to mitigate disasters not to avoid them.
Dec 18 13:21:02 <thestringpuller>	insurance companies don't make money by paying claims...
Dec 18 13:21:29 <thestringpuller>	they mitigate risks to the point the exposure is minimal
Dec 18 13:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	anyone knows who owns walletbit.com ?
Dec 18 13:21:35 <kakobreklaa>	its not about making it unhackable, is about making it hard enough to do
Dec 18 13:21:41 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: kreal
Dec 18 13:21:47 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Dec 18 13:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Dec 18 13:23:03 <thestringpuller>	walletbit may overtake bitpay
Dec 18 13:24:19 <thestringpuller>	kakobreklaa: onions huh?
Dec 18 13:24:28 <kakobreklaa>	hm?
Dec 18 13:24:39 <thestringpuller>	your security needs to be like an onion
Dec 18 13:24:49 <kakobreklaa>	http://xkcd.com/538/
Dec 18 13:25:46 <thestringpuller>	Isn't that what Russians do?
Dec 18 13:25:55 <kakobreklaa>	im close.
Dec 18 13:25:57 <thestringpuller>	kidnap people and beat them over the head with turnips
Dec 18 13:26:06 <thestringpuller>	until they give up passwords
Dec 18 13:27:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 18 13:27:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.22870, Best ask: 13.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.12129, Last trade: 13.21656, 24 hour volume: 28522.62314613, 24 hour low: 13.10250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.26900
Dec 18 13:27:15 <pigeons>	carrots > turnips
Dec 18 13:27:39 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I'm going to make a ticker app for MPEX when I go on vacation
Dec 18 13:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	haha cool
Dec 18 13:28:00 <thestringpuller>	Enough information is public that you can just poll it
Dec 18 13:28:13 <kakobreklaa>	he does have an api...
Dec 18 13:28:14 <thestringpuller>	I'm still mad that you use PHP but I"ll get over it
Dec 18 13:28:23 <thestringpuller>	I like hacks :P
Dec 18 13:28:31 <pigeons>	don't use the api, scraping ftw
Dec 18 13:28:32 <kakobreklaa>	its not a hack its stupidtiy
Dec 18 13:28:37 <kakobreklaa>	if you gonna parse html
Dec 18 13:28:40 <kakobreklaa>	when api is there
Dec 18 13:28:41 <thestringpuller>	o/ put it there pigeons
Dec 18 13:29:04 <thestringpuller>	Back in my day we didn't have API's for everything
Dec 18 13:29:10 <thestringpuller>	we had to actually parse strings and shit
Dec 18 13:29:27 <kakobreklaa>	aha
Dec 18 13:29:33 <kakobreklaa>	first you pulled the string
Dec 18 13:29:37 <kakobreklaa>	the you parsed it
Dec 18 13:29:45 <kakobreklaa>	you sting parser you.
Dec 18 13:29:58 <kakobreklaa>	then*
Dec 18 13:30:05 <kakobreklaa>	ah well
Dec 18 13:30:09 <kakobreklaa>	off to the store.
Dec 18 13:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	well let's break the news to thestringpuller
Dec 18 13:30:28 <thestringpuller>	is it bad news doc?
Dec 18 13:30:33 <thestringpuller>	I got cancer don't I?
Dec 18 13:30:51 <mircea_popescu>	mpex.co/mpex-vwap.php
Dec 18 13:31:14 <kakobreklaa>	if you are going to parse html do it with regex so its at least completley wrong
Dec 18 13:31:27 <thestringpuller>	XD
Dec 18 13:31:32 <thestringpuller>	that's what I was planning to do
Dec 18 13:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa why not replacestr or w/e it's called
Dec 18 13:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	sorta halfway regex
Dec 18 13:31:43 <kakobreklaa>	stupid mans regex
Dec 18 13:31:48 <thestringpuller>	or you could just use awk or sed
Dec 18 13:32:07 <jcpham>	scrape all content with sed
Dec 18 13:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	sedawk all the girls.
Dec 18 13:32:11 <jcpham>	or awk
Dec 18 13:32:53 <jcpham>	one time i wrote some wget scripts to scrape the funny images from 8 differnet funny image sites
Dec 18 13:33:05 <jcpham>	the next morning i hat 400,000 funny jpgs
Dec 18 13:33:20 <kakobreklaa>	and it wasnt funny.
Dec 18 13:33:27 <jcpham>	no, no it wasn't
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Dec 18 13:34:20 <thestringpuller>	XD
Dec 18 13:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	one time i made some wget scripts to fuck with technorati. the next morning i had the #1 spot.
Dec 18 13:35:11 <jcpham>	way way wack
Dec 18 13:35:20 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	one time, I made some shit up in an irc channel and bragged about it
Dec 18 13:35:34 <thestringpuller>	is that you imsaguy?
Dec 18 13:35:36 <jcpham>	you make me cry
Dec 18 13:35:53 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is mpex-vwap.php the only stat json that's publicly availabe
Dec 18 13:35:56 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade " Art and Artwork (none) "
Dec 18 13:35:57 <thestringpuller>	what else yougot?
Dec 18 13:36:14 <kakobreklaa>	go with the html apis are so new age pft!
Dec 18 13:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller there's mkt depth too
Dec 18 13:36:17 <Ukto>	[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]: and the this one time, and band camp...
Dec 18 13:36:29 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	Ukto, I don't wanna know about your flute
Dec 18 13:36:30 <jcpham>	it was a tuba, not a flute
Dec 18 13:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	i can't believe slashy still lives.
Dec 18 13:36:37 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 18 13:36:38 <thestringpuller>	What happened to going to the store Ukto ?
Dec 18 13:36:44 <Ukto>	jchysk: thats movie 1 vs 2
Dec 18 13:36:47 <thestringpuller>	I want my FF7
Dec 18 13:36:50 <Ukto>	whut store?
Dec 18 13:36:54 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	mircea_popescu, why would it not?
Dec 18 13:36:54 <Ukto>	school ?
Dec 18 13:36:55 <thestringpuller>	I'll pay 2000BTC
Dec 18 13:36:56 <Ukto>	get your facts straight
Dec 18 13:36:57 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 18 13:37:07 <thestringpuller>	(not really)
Dec 18 13:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	dja have any idea when's the last time you said something ?
Dec 18 13:37:29 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	no, been busy, stuff and stuff
Dec 18 13:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	well good for you anyway.
Dec 18 13:37:52 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	if you say so
Dec 18 13:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	FireSteel.com FireSteels are used by tens of thousands of people including the US Military, hikers, hunters, scouts, survivalists, outdoors enthusiasts and bushcrafters the world over.
Dec 18 13:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	Buy our FireSteels and you'll never worry about being able to start a fire.
Dec 18 13:38:03 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: where is the depth table json
Dec 18 13:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck is worried about starting fires
Dec 18 13:38:26 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	just keep a bic in the glove box
Dec 18 13:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php
Dec 18 13:38:32 <kakobreklaa>	people who do Bacon ala Quran
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Dec 18 13:38:39 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: what about this link?
Dec 18 13:38:40 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	if you're stranded long enough that you run out of lighter fluid, you're probably gonna die anyway
Dec 18 13:38:58 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	and I mean that in the nicest way possible
Dec 18 13:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	i can make fire by rubbing two girls together.
Dec 18 13:39:07 <mircea_popescu>	provided one's blonde and the other's brunette.
Dec 18 13:39:26 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	you have two different shares of hair on your palms?
Dec 18 13:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob grep for "art"
Dec 18 13:39:30 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	shades*
Dec 18 13:39:50 <mircea_popescu>	blonde and brunette aren't motherfucking shades
Dec 18 13:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11071 @ 0.0005998 = 6.6404 BTC [+]
Dec 18 13:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7029 @ 0.00060014 = 4.2184 BTC [+]
Dec 18 13:40:45 <EskimoBob>	so?
Dec 18 13:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	so add your negligible yet soon to dissapear attempt in there.
Dec 18 13:41:56 <EskimoBob>	wtf are you blabbering about now?
Dec 18 13:42:33 <thestringpuller>	no one believes in EskimoBobs dream of creating a BTC-based art studio?
Dec 18 13:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	if bitcoins were backed by buckteeth fat girl butts...
Dec 18 13:43:25 <pigeons>	he suggests you let people who browse the bitcoin wiki know that they can get "art" for bitcoins
Dec 18 13:43:42 <mircea_popescu>	"The Real Skin All-American Whopper measures 7 inches with an insertable length of 5.5 inches, 1.25-1.5 inches in width and a circumference of 4.5-5 inches, and is realistically sculpted for the size, feel, and pleasure of the real thing."
Dec 18 13:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	5 inches ? real thing ?
Dec 18 13:44:12 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is lonely fuck who just stirs up shit. Do not take that delusional retard too seriously ;)
Dec 18 13:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	 L33t Consultant, IT Consulting on Anything Security, Networks & Servers. All OS - All Software.
Dec 18 13:45:08 <mircea_popescu>	the wiki is a serious goldmine.
Dec 18 13:46:01 <mircea_popescu>	"Discover…No B.S. Asset Protection The Ultimate, No Holds Barred, Kick Butt, Take No Prisoners Asset Protection & Privacy Package Plus Exclusive Lifetime Site Membership"
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Dec 18 13:50:29 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: where is the market depth json waaaaaah
Dec 18 13:50:32 <thestringpuller>	waaaaah
Dec 18 13:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	<mircea_popescu> thestringpuller mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-json.php
Dec 18 13:53:05 <jcpham>	i have not started a fire with my firesteel yet
Dec 18 13:53:13 <jcpham>	vaguely tried
Dec 18 13:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	usagi : "this is probably a scam" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130947.msg1407545#msg1407545
Dec 18 13:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	he should know
Dec 18 13:54:19 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham what is it, an electric arc sorta thing ?
Dec 18 13:54:34 <jcpham>	it's like a big flint
Dec 18 13:54:42 <jcpham>	you scrape it and make sparks
Dec 18 13:54:49 <jcpham>	like a survival fire starter
Dec 18 13:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	a
Dec 18 13:57:38 <jcpham>	requires fibrous tender
Dec 18 13:57:47 <jcpham>	rubbiung sticks and blowing
Dec 18 13:57:51 <jcpham>	shrug
Dec 18 13:59:19 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: there is a bug, it took me to trilemma
Dec 18 14:00:10 <thestringpuller>	Usagi can fucking rant on the forums but not get me my fucking BTC
Dec 18 14:00:12 <thestringpuller>	fuck dat guy
Dec 18 14:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	i just tried it, tis fine.
Dec 18 14:00:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/mpex-vwap.php
Dec 18 14:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	ow tried the wrong one
Dec 18 14:00:50 <thestringpuller>	mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-json.php
Dec 18 14:00:57 <thestringpuller>	keep redirecting to your blog
Dec 18 14:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00060014 = 3.0307 BTC [+]
Dec 18 14:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php
Dec 18 14:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	or else
Dec 18 14:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth.php
Dec 18 14:01:57 <thestringpuller>	that worked
Dec 18 14:02:03 <thestringpuller>	thanks mircea_popescu
Dec 18 14:07:05 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 18 14:07:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30001, Best ask: 13.34998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 13.30002, 24 hour volume: 28406.18807176, 24 hour low: 13.10250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.27054
Dec 18 14:07:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Dec 18 14:07:13 <gribble>	Time since last block: 8 minutes and 40 seconds
Dec 18 14:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,diff
Dec 18 14:07:21 <gribble>	3370181.7992778
Dec 18 14:08:23 <thestringpuller>	btc volatility is going down
Dec 18 14:08:29 <thestringpuller>	overall
Dec 18 14:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11171 @ 0.00060014 = 6.7042 BTC [+]
Dec 18 14:10:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3829 @ 0.0006002 = 2.2982 BTC [+]
Dec 18 14:12:51 <thestringpuller>	august was a baaaaad month
Dec 18 14:14:11 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/ - the loss of august seems to dwarf everything...
Dec 18 14:16:47 <thestringpuller>	the bondholders in august...got creamed
Dec 18 14:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Dec 18 14:17:31 <thestringpuller>	are there any new safeguards?
Dec 18 14:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	nope. it can happen, one bad month can hurt.
Dec 18 14:18:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.0006002 = 1.8006 BTC [+]
Dec 18 14:19:03 <thestringpuller>	but that month was REALLY bad
Dec 18 14:19:23 <thestringpuller>	like people jumping out of skyscrapers bad
Dec 18 14:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Dec 18 14:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=Hourly&c=1&s=2012-08-17&e=2012-08-21&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&
Dec 18 14:22:27 <thestringpuller>	ouch
Dec 18 14:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059918 = 2.5891 BTC [-]
Dec 18 14:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00059883 = 7.4255 BTC [-]
Dec 18 14:22:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11895 @ 0.00059238 = 7.0464 BTC [-]
Dec 18 14:22:36 <Bugpowder>	shoulda used a Lorentzian instead of a Gaussian price movement model...
Dec 18 14:22:40 <thestringpuller>	14 to 11 in 1 day
Dec 18 14:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder shoulda not been in a market where self-aggrandizing idiots put 5% of the m3 into ponzis
Dec 18 14:25:58 <EskimoBob>	fuuuuccckkk usagi is back and off the fkn meds. Not that shit again ... LOL
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Dec 18 14:27:41 <Bugpowder>	Does Black-Scholes have a ponzi correction term?
Dec 18 14:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	if it ever does it will become BSM
Dec 18 14:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	Black-Scholes-Maddof
Dec 18 14:29:27 <Namjies>	Hey EskimoBob
Dec 18 14:29:42 <Namjies>	No, haven't received your claim from GLBSE yet.
Dec 18 14:31:38 <thestringpuller>	the Lorentz transformation
Dec 18 14:31:43 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: hola
Dec 18 14:31:48 <thestringpuller>	the most brilliant thing ever
Dec 18 14:32:17 <Bugpowder>	not related
Dec 18 14:32:17 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: You were talking about a Lorentz right?
Dec 18 14:32:19 <thestringpuller>	oh
Dec 18 14:32:21 <thestringpuller>	:(
Dec 18 14:32:35 <thestringpuller>	well I'll just go to my corner and continue reading about relativity then
Dec 18 14:32:43 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: James told me he sent out (or promised to send) a updated list and assured me that my name is on the list
Dec 18 14:32:45 <Bugpowder>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauchy_distribution
Dec 18 14:33:09 <EskimoBob>	unless you are talking to someone else Namjies :)
Dec 18 14:33:16 <Bugpowder>	It's why 100-year black swan events happen every 8 years.
Dec 18 14:34:27 <thestringpuller>	100 year black swan events heh
Dec 18 14:34:36 <thestringpuller>	damn Bugpowder you people enlighten me everyda
Dec 18 14:34:48 <thestringpuller>	I've learned more in this IRC channel than I ever did in public school
Dec 18 14:34:53 <thestringpuller>	Down with welfare
Dec 18 14:43:40 <dub>	I was looking at some property in a 100-year flood plain the other day, supposedly expected to flood every 3-5 years
Dec 18 14:50:19 <thestringpuller>	lol Bitcoin magazine charges 100 bucks for a 12 issue subscription?
Dec 18 14:50:39 <mod6>	(11:34) < thestringpuller> I've learned more in this IRC channel than I ever did in public school
Dec 18 14:50:41 <dub>	moron tax
Dec 18 14:50:43 <mod6>	^^^ :D
Dec 18 14:50:43 <EskimoBob>	are they still in business?
Dec 18 14:51:23 <thestringpuller>	mod6: can I help with the Mpex android app?
Dec 18 14:51:36 <EskimoBob>	Vlad ripped the magazine off and it sounded like that wast the end
Dec 18 14:51:53 <thestringpuller>	issue #5 just came out
Dec 18 14:52:42 <EskimoBob>	OK
Dec 18 14:52:50 <thestringpuller>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/ - I was reading that
Dec 18 14:53:10 <mod6>	thestringpuller: I do actually need help.  And for sure in the future there will be tons more to do.
Dec 18 14:53:47 <thestringpuller>	What framework are you going to use?
Dec 18 14:54:02 <thestringpuller>	in terms of data access
Dec 18 14:54:17 <thestringpuller>	like how people use Spring Framework for Java EE
Dec 18 14:54:27 <mod6>	ahhh.
Dec 18 14:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	<thestringpuller> lol Bitcoin magazine charges 100 bucks for a 12 issue subscription? <<< yes, they will deliver the 12th issue in 2044
Dec 18 14:55:08 <thestringpuller>	why don't you spin off trilemma into a magazine?
Dec 18 14:55:25 <mod6>	well, i started a #BitOTTer channel for technical discussions....   but basically how this works is it doesn't persist anything at this time
Dec 18 14:55:56 <mircea_popescu>	a magazine is one of those pointless things whores employed by rich men fill their time with.
Dec 18 14:56:17 <mod6>	it connects to mpex (currently just over inet, tor ability is coming, probably in beta, tor works with perl version) and grabs all the JSON and parses it.
Dec 18 14:56:38 <thestringpuller>	i was talking more about the service to DAO
Dec 18 14:56:45 <thestringpuller>	even though there is no writing to a db
Dec 18 14:56:51 <thestringpuller>	you have to read from one albeit over an API
Dec 18 14:57:18 <thestringpuller>	like for instance I was reading in JSON from a server that had data on it
Dec 18 14:57:30 <thestringpuller>	so I used GSON wrapped with access objects
Dec 18 14:58:12 <mod6>	ahh, yeah, nothing with GSON. i tried to get my head wrapped around how to use it with android and the funky mpex json, but I couldn't make it work
Dec 18 14:58:20 <mod6>	i just muscled past it with my own solution
Dec 18 14:58:24 <thestringpuller>	Haha
Dec 18 14:58:33 <thestringpuller>	hit it with a hammer till it behaves solution huh?
Dec 18 14:58:55 <mod6>	well, sort of.. i love to make it really nice and awesomesauce, but having it work is much better.
Dec 18 14:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060018 = 2.5934 BTC [+]
Dec 18 14:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1929 @ 0.0006002 = 1.1578 BTC [+]
Dec 18 14:59:23 <mod6>	So in the future, I really hope to get to revise a lot of stuff that I've already learned on the alpha project... but its sort of too late to turn around.
Dec 18 14:59:51 <thestringpuller>	well if you want I can be your jr. dev, just assign me tickets and I"ll send you patches
Dec 18 14:59:57 <mod6>	I was talking about building BitOTTer as an android tool for mpex in march/april, but noone was really interested... until later, and then I really had to turn up the gas to try to catch up.
Dec 18 15:00:50 <mod6>	If you're really serious, I do have quite a bunch to do.  It sounds like you know what's up.
Dec 18 15:01:04 <thestringpuller>	I'm a Java EE developer and spent a few years doing Android Dev
Dec 18 15:01:19 <thestringpuller>	If you migrate to iOS I can't really do anything for you
Dec 18 15:01:26 <mod6>	I can work out something in the form of small btc payments on a per-diem basis or something...
Dec 18 15:01:35 <thestringpuller>	nah I'd rather just code for the fun of it
Dec 18 15:01:41 <thestringpuller>	for a good cause
Dec 18 15:02:04 <mod6>	wow. even more awesome.  well, you won't be forgotten if you help with this project in some way.
Dec 18 15:03:15 <thestringpuller>	Anything I can do to get better at coding.
Dec 18 15:03:26 <mod6>	Right now i have a nuts-o day job, thats more like an everyhour job.  I am looking forward to making 2013 the year I can leave that behind :D
Dec 18 15:03:35 <thestringpuller>	Dude you have no idea
Dec 18 15:03:40 <thestringpuller>	I so feel you
Dec 18 15:03:56 <thestringpuller>	I do EE development for credit card processors
Dec 18 15:04:09 <thestringpuller>	it's like 90% meetings 10% copy paste code
Dec 18 15:04:15 <thestringpuller>	every hour every day...
Dec 18 15:04:16 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Dec 18 15:04:19 <mod6>	thats great, this is all java, nothing too complicated really at all.
Dec 18 15:05:09 <mod6>	just had some problems with spongycastle/bouncycastle trying to get the KeyStore to work the way I wanted.  I got SOOOOO close, but it was eating up too much time.
Dec 18 15:05:20 <thestringpuller>	Android keystores are weird as shit
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Dec 18 15:05:42 <thestringpuller>	in fact I don't think you can use traditional SSH keys on it
Dec 18 15:06:09 <mod6>	ah, maybe not?
Dec 18 15:06:52 <thestringpuller>	hold on i spent weeks getting SSHd and SCP to run natively on my droid
Dec 18 15:07:05 <thestringpuller>	to be thwarted by a cp memory overrun
Dec 18 15:07:49 <thestringpuller>	there we go
Dec 18 15:07:51 <thestringpuller>	dropbear
Dec 18 15:07:59 <mod6>	ahh hmm
Dec 18 15:08:02 *	mod6 looks
Dec 18 15:08:05 <thestringpuller>	dropbear ssh
Dec 18 15:08:15 <thestringpuller>	they did a port that's now in the android git repo
Dec 18 15:08:34 <thestringpuller>	but you have to convert you DSA/RSA keys into dropbear format
Dec 18 15:08:43 <thestringpuller>	like stuff you'd generate from openssh
Dec 18 15:08:57 <mod6>	lol, i just saw a picture of a kowala eating a guys face
Dec 18 15:08:57 <thestringpuller>	I assume pgp will be similar since the android keystore is a little weird
Dec 18 15:09:18 <mod6>	yeah, i had to get down to the nuts and bolts
Dec 18 15:09:52 <mod6>	i had to get the public key packet, secret key packet... extract the private key from the secrete key spec then create a x509 cert and construct that with the pub and priv keys.
Dec 18 15:10:01 <thestringpuller>	are you doing it remote?
Dec 18 15:10:09 <mod6>	only bitch of it is... once I pull the cert out on the other side, i can't get out the private key.
Dec 18 15:10:18 <mod6>	only the public key. the api is limited here.
Dec 18 15:10:32 <thestringpuller>	fucking keystore
Dec 18 15:10:37 <thestringpuller>	just can't store a private key...
Dec 18 15:10:44 <mod6>	nope :/
Dec 18 15:10:46 <thestringpuller>	we meet again my old friend
Dec 18 15:10:48 <iz>	for.. pgp?
Dec 18 15:10:55 <thestringpuller>	or gpg
Dec 18 15:10:59 <thestringpuller>	any key really
Dec 18 15:11:05 <mod6>	yeah, i don't think it matters
Dec 18 15:11:07 <thestringpuller>	except androids "special format"
Dec 18 15:11:10 <iz>	you shouldn't be storing priv keys on a pgp (or gpg) keystore
Dec 18 15:11:15 <iz>	that's not how it's meant to work
Dec 18 15:11:16 <Namjies>	EskimoBob: what's your email/bitcoin address for GLBSE? PM me. I'll check again but my last list was received some time ago.
Dec 18 15:11:28 <thestringpuller>	yea but android is stripped down
Dec 18 15:11:41 <iz>	priv key remains private, public keys are on the keystore so you can look them up
Dec 18 15:11:42 <mod6>	at that level I was working with PGPPublicKey, PGPSecretKey and PGPPrivateKey and converting them to their native java analogues
Dec 18 15:11:54 <thestringpuller>	iz: the keystore is local
Dec 18 15:11:57 <iz>	ohhh
Dec 18 15:12:01 <iz>	yeah, that sucks then
Dec 18 15:12:04 <thestringpuller>	iz: android doesn't have a normal filesystem
Dec 18 15:12:10 <iz>	yeah, i gotcha now
Dec 18 15:12:17 <thestringpuller>	iz: so for things that are "private" it stores them locally in a weird fucked up way
Dec 18 15:12:29 <mod6>	iz: yeah, i know, but im trying to come up with a clever way to store the users private key incase the device is stolen or hacked, you don't want to lose thatkey.
Dec 18 15:12:37 <thestringpuller>	exactly!
Dec 18 15:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	listening to you ppl talk im slowly realising apple is the new microsoft.
Dec 18 15:12:44 <iz>	encrypt it w/ a password
Dec 18 15:12:44 <thestringpuller>	if you lose your phone with the bitcoin wallet
Dec 18 15:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	this is EXACTLY how discussions went cca 1995
Dec 18 15:12:55 <thestringpuller>	people can take the private keys out
Dec 18 15:13:12 <mod6>	apple is pretty nuts, i'll convert to iOS someday if there is enough interest... but that'll be its own can of worms.
Dec 18 15:13:13 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: pm sent
Dec 18 15:13:19 <iz>	well, if you loose your wallet, ppl can take your cash out too
Dec 18 15:13:38 <iz>	lose
Dec 18 15:13:41 <thestringpuller>	iOS is pretty good
Dec 18 15:13:47 <thestringpuller>	but it's not friendly
Dec 18 15:13:56 <thestringpuller>	well the low level to high level interface isn't friedly
Dec 18 15:14:05 <thestringpuller>	friendly*
Dec 18 15:14:10 <mod6>	iz: so in the mean time, I have a AES256 class that I wrote that will utilize AES and enc/dec the key... at least that way, its protected by the symmetric key
Dec 18 15:14:48 <thestringpuller>	mod6: one thing you an do is encrypt local data for the app
Dec 18 15:15:02 <thestringpuller>	each app runs under it's on PID, and UID, so no other app can access it
Dec 18 15:15:27 <iz>	mod6: yeah, that seems good enough for now... does android have DRM crap that you can hijack for that?
Dec 18 15:16:16 <thestringpuller>	iz: not DRM persay, but if you root your phone you can do an encrypted FS
Dec 18 15:16:19 <mod6>	iz: hm, I really wish! if they do, I'm missing it.  I'm not super well versed in Android though, a lot of stuff is new to me here.
Dec 18 15:16:45 <thestringpuller>	but then you're limiting yourself to only "experienced" users
Dec 18 15:16:56 <mod6>	and what worries me, is like I was saying to mircea_popescu the other night.  all these cell providers leave backdoors through the os to turn shit on/off or to steal your data/coins.
Dec 18 15:16:59 <iz>	yeah, i took a quick look and it seems like the android DRM is about playback restriction and doesn't really have a pub/priv key that is used
Dec 18 15:17:21 <mod6>	So... I'd like to put something in place thats non-native in a way I guess. Another layer to the onion so to speak.
Dec 18 15:17:46 <thestringpuller>	mod6: just encrypt the app local file store
Dec 18 15:18:02 <thestringpuller>	with the AES256 class you are writing
Dec 18 15:18:19 <mod6>	thestringpuller: this maybe the way to go. i'll have to talk to you more about that.  or do some searching there... need to see how that works out.
Dec 18 15:18:25 <mod6>	oh.
Dec 18 15:18:37 <mod6>	I see, you're just saying to enc all the files in the local dir?
Dec 18 15:18:43 <thestringpuller>	just for the mpex app
Dec 18 15:18:47 <thestringpuller>	each app has it's only local file store
Dec 18 15:18:48 <mod6>	right.
Dec 18 15:19:00 <thestringpuller>	most people don't encrypt that shit but I don't see why you couldn't
Dec 18 15:19:06 <thestringpuller>	it adds another layer
Dec 18 15:19:10 <mod6>	Well, I could do that for sure.  Infact, it started out that way, and then I was like, "why am i encrypting this public key..."
Dec 18 15:19:23 <thestringpuller>	true
Dec 18 15:19:42 <mod6>	its time related.
Dec 18 15:19:46 <thestringpuller>	but rogue apps take over phones everyday
Dec 18 15:20:00 <thestringpuller>	if they can get into another apps local fs somehow
Dec 18 15:20:10 <thestringpuller>	then it's like the plaintext password with Sony and MTGox
Dec 18 15:20:23 <thestringpuller>	and LinkedIn for that matter
Dec 18 15:20:26 <mod6>	right.
Dec 18 15:20:43 <mod6>	Good stuff man.  Thanks to everyone for all your comments on this today.
Dec 18 15:20:50 <mod6>	Very much helpful.
Dec 18 15:20:50 <thestringpuller>	also it's nearly impossible for a rogue app to read from memory
Dec 18 15:21:07 <thestringpuller>	because essentially the only time the private key would be "exposed" is when it's in memory decrypting data
Dec 18 15:21:11 <thestringpuller>	or in use*
Dec 18 15:21:18 <thestringpuller>	it wouldn't be "on disc" decrypted
Dec 18 15:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.0006002 = 5.3718 BTC [+]
Dec 18 15:21:30 <mod6>	yup. true enough.
Dec 18 15:21:56 <thestringpuller>	but i feel you it is a pain not having a place to store the private key
Dec 18 15:22:28 <mod6>	yeah, it makes it tough. i was worried about this before the project got off the ground, and it didn't disappoint.
Dec 18 15:22:59 <mod6>	But... i'm pretty much past it, for now.  I'm looking forward to getting it out here soon and then working on the beta.
Dec 18 15:23:06 <thestringpuller>	yea it's why bank apps don't store anything locally
Dec 18 15:23:14 <thestringpuller>	most bank apps are web based and connect to a webpage based ap
Dec 18 15:23:15 <thestringpuller>	app*
Dec 18 15:23:42 <thestringpuller>	its really kind of a shame
Dec 18 15:24:27 <thestringpuller>	mod6: i pmed you my github account
Dec 18 15:24:27 <mod6>	yeah for sure.
Dec 18 15:24:32 <mod6>	oh ok!
Dec 18 15:24:57 <thestringpuller>	i don't got much on there cause I just don't have anything to collaborate with I usually just keep everything local
Dec 18 15:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18776 @ 0.0006002 = 11.2694 BTC [+]
Dec 18 15:38:26 <mod6>	Thanks again for the help/comments guise.  :)
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Dec 18 15:58:43 <jurov>	thestringpuller, next time just look into live.coinbr.com sauce
Dec 18 15:59:14 <jurov>	it uses some secret mpex apis
Dec 18 16:00:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.0006002 = 6.4522 BTC [+]
Dec 18 16:02:18 <dub>	mother of christ
Dec 18 16:02:39 <dub>	more flash crashes this patch than ever before
Dec 18 16:03:45 <jcpham>	i need a nap
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Dec 18 16:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059499 = 2.571 BTC [-]
Dec 18 16:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18779 @ 0.00059474 = 11.1686 BTC [-]
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Dec 18 16:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059991 = 2.5922 BTC [+]
Dec 18 16:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6651 @ 0.0006002 = 3.9919 BTC [+]
Dec 18 16:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9115 @ 0.0006002 = 5.4708 BTC [+]
Dec 18 16:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9335 @ 0.00060397 = 5.6381 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 16:34:37 <jcpham>	http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/12/18/bitcoin-money-laundering/
Dec 18 16:45:19 <Azelphur>	bitcoin hitmen? XD
Dec 18 16:49:32 <mod6>	pff
Dec 18 16:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12531 @ 0.00060397 = 7.5683 BTC [+]
Dec 18 16:49:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00060707 = 0.5767 BTC [+]
Dec 18 16:49:59 <mod6>	I wish vrag would flame those idiots.
Dec 18 16:50:23 <jcpham>	weak article from cnn
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Dec 18 16:59:25 <mod6>	supre
Dec 18 17:00:14 <thestringpuller>	back
Dec 18 17:00:27 <mod6>	werd up
Dec 18 17:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00061132 = 7.3358 BTC [+]
Dec 18 17:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00062003 = 0.248 BTC [+]
Dec 18 17:04:22 <thestringpuller>	woog
Dec 18 17:04:24 <thestringpuller>	woot
Dec 18 17:11:23 <mod6>	when mircea and I were talking and he came up with the Code-Review Consortium for the BTC community (I'm just calling it a consortium for lack of a further description)
Dec 18 17:12:20 <mod6>	I started wondering if maybe some sort of generic NDA could be created as part of what is needed to projects going in that realm..
Dec 18 17:13:59 <mod6>	These could be signed via pgp and held as the other MPEx style contracts are currently.
Dec 18 17:14:05 <mod6>	or PGP contracts
Dec 18 17:17:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5219 @ 0.00060791 = 3.1727 BTC [-]
Dec 18 17:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059492 = 2.5706 BTC [-]
Dec 18 17:20:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21779 @ 0.00059474 = 12.9528 BTC [-]
Dec 18 17:27:20 <dub>	time to panic sell tbh
Dec 18 17:27:37 <dub>	if cnn says so, its true
Dec 18 17:27:50 <dub>	cnn and fox, ultimate sources of truth
Dec 18 17:31:20 <thestringpuller>	dub: what panic sell?
Dec 18 17:32:05 <dub>	sell btc
Dec 18 17:35:03 <mod6>	i hope everyone does.
Dec 18 17:35:07 <mod6>	then I can buy them all.
Dec 18 17:35:58 <mod6>	=D
Dec 18 17:36:09 <Bugpowder>	Pls wait till after the 28th
Dec 18 17:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10200 @ 0.0036 = 36.72 BTC [-]
Dec 18 17:36:57 <mod6>	anyway, its not like they're going to love BTC at these media outlets, they're starting to understand that BTC /is/ the resistance
Dec 18 17:37:18 <thestringpuller>	dub: what did cnn say?
Dec 18 17:37:34 <mod6>	 http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/12/18/bitcoin-money-laundering/
Dec 18 17:38:20 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 18 17:39:01 <thestringpuller>	shouldn't bitcoin
Dec 18 17:39:07 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 18 17:39:21 <thestringpuller>	hold on reading
Dec 18 17:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059715 = 2.5803 BTC [+]
Dec 18 17:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13981 @ 0.0005975 = 8.3536 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 17:43:35 <jurov>	Spend some time in the sketchy online marketplace for this currency and you'll find that Bitcoin users range from the common Iranian on the street, who is worried about inflation, to hit men and drug dealers.
Dec 18 17:44:00 <jurov>	near which end of the scale do we fit, brethren?
Dec 18 17:45:58 <thestringpuller>	btc finance mafia?
Dec 18 17:46:02 <mod6>	I think he needs to s/inflation/hyperinflation -- coming soon to a dollar near you
Dec 18 17:47:01 <mod6>	thestringpuller: haha
Dec 18 17:47:18 <thestringpuller>	are we economic criminals?
Dec 18 17:47:19 <jurov>	perhaps we should send some casascius stuff to rupert murdoch. "with love, #bitcoin-assets".
Dec 18 17:47:29 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 18 17:47:35 <jurov>	we need more stuff like this
Dec 18 17:47:51 <thestringpuller>	i would launder drug money in btc
Dec 18 17:48:10 <smickles>	i bet the rich rich people have a more efficient way of being prepared for large amounts of inflation
Dec 18 17:48:10 <thestringpuller>	it would fight inflation and clean my money
Dec 18 17:48:17 <thestringpuller>	while declaring taxes
Dec 18 17:48:46 <thestringpuller>	has anyone seen the duck tales inflation lesson?
Dec 18 17:48:48 <mod6>	smickles: lobbying the gov for currecy/price pegs?
Dec 18 17:49:01 <thestringpuller>	smickles: be sure to show your daughter this
Dec 18 17:49:20 <iz>	would she even know what duck tales was?
Dec 18 17:49:26 <smickles>	mod6: how did they get thru the inflation in germany and the inflation during the gold rush?
Dec 18 17:49:37 <thestringpuller>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_LWQQrpSc4
Dec 18 17:49:53 <thestringpuller>	smickles: ^^^
Dec 18 17:50:07 <mod6>	well, The Reich started buying gold and devalued the Mark iirc
Dec 18 17:50:35 <smickles>	i remember watcing that episode :)
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Dec 18 17:51:19 <thestringpuller>	what did we learn ?
Dec 18 17:51:34 <thestringpuller>	nothinf
Dec 18 17:51:40 <thestringpuller>	the fed just prints money all day
Dec 18 17:51:56 <smickles>	heh, the kids who watched that when it aired arn't in power yet thestringpuller
Dec 18 17:52:06 <smickles>	it's still the baby boomeres
Dec 18 17:52:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062003 = 4.8982 BTC [+]
Dec 18 17:52:46 <thestringpuller>	i want to use btc to sell iran weapons
Dec 18 17:52:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00062237 = 0.3112 BTC [+]
Dec 18 17:53:12 <smickles>	thestringpuller: you wan't a fast track to jail?
Dec 18 17:53:20 <jurov>	wait till north korea learns of btc
Dec 18 17:53:54 <smickles>	imagine a world whereby the aid of btc, the people of n.korea overthrow their gov't
Dec 18 17:54:05 <mod6>	it would be amazing smickles
Dec 18 17:54:16 <smickles>	*insert a 'with' somewhere in that statement
Dec 18 17:54:19 <iz>	smickles: how would that work though?
Dec 18 17:54:20 <mod6>	im hopeful for such things actually
Dec 18 17:54:21 <thestringpuller>	yessir
Dec 18 17:54:29 <mod6>	the U.S. can't do anything to help that situation
Dec 18 17:54:47 <smickles>	mod6: we'd then have _absolutely_ no hope of winning the korean proleague sc2 tournements
Dec 18 17:55:04 <thestringpuller>	we send btcs to north korean rebels and form a resistance funded by the btc elite
Dec 18 17:55:07 <mod6>	hahaha, we're supposed to "protect" Taiwan from China.  Except we'd have to borrow money from them, to fight them. HA
Dec 18 17:55:37 <thestringpuller>	then boom civil war
Dec 18 17:55:39 <smickles>	iz: they could acquire resources which were unavailable to them because the rich in that country controlled the money supply
Dec 18 17:55:55 <thestringpuller>	dude ima set that up
Dec 18 17:56:04 <thestringpuller>	north korean underground rebel fund
Dec 18 17:56:22 <iz>	smickles: only by importing goods/services from other countries
Dec 18 17:56:37 <iz>	the currency isn't the missing part
Dec 18 17:56:48 <smickles>	iz: i did say imagine, not work out the details :P
Dec 18 17:56:54 <iz>	it's the rest of the world (UN) stopping them from getting anything else
Dec 18 17:56:59 <smickles>	it's a pipe dream and you know it
Dec 18 17:57:07 <iz>	ah, that's part of my imagination process..
Dec 18 17:57:08 <thestringpuller>	secret rebel supply line via air balloons from south korea?
Dec 18 17:57:31 <thestringpuller>	use your imagination peoole
Dec 18 17:57:32 <mod6>	just wait until 3d printers take off en masse
Dec 18 17:57:36 <iz>	star trek style replicators
Dec 18 17:57:45 <mod6>	just send me the btc for the code to print your thing
Dec 18 17:57:47 <smickles>	thestringpuller: autonomous quadcopters, not balloons
Dec 18 17:57:47 <thestringpuller>	underground canals?
Dec 18 17:57:52 <iz>	too bad you can't 3d print food.. :/
Dec 18 17:58:02 <mod6>	true enough :/
Dec 18 17:58:02 <jurov>	they already smuggle stuff like cellphones over china border, no btcs necessary
Dec 18 17:58:10 <mod6>	but you can buy btc Ag futures! :D
Dec 18 17:58:41 <mod6>	gotta get me some ALCG :)
Dec 18 17:58:43 <thestringpuller>	if the vietcong overthrew the us puppet government in vietnam
Dec 18 17:58:53 <thestringpuller>	im sure rebels in north korea could do it
Dec 18 17:59:17 <thestringpuller>	Headlines: BTC funds North Korean Civil War
Dec 18 17:59:27 <iz>	it's harder when they go after ppl's family that also lives there
Dec 18 17:59:35 <mod6>	well, the vietnamese had been fighting the french for 20 years before we showed up -- they were dug in. either win, or die for them.
Dec 18 17:59:48 <mod6>	we never had any business being over there.
Dec 18 18:00:16 <smickles>	"over there" as in anywhere but the US
Dec 18 18:00:18 <smickles>	right?
Dec 18 18:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00062237 = 6.4726 BTC [+]
Dec 18 18:00:30 <iz>	over there, being vietnam, i think
Dec 18 18:00:38 <mod6>	well, in reference to my arm pointing "yonder" :)
Dec 18 18:00:52 <mod6>	yeah, im in the U.S.
Dec 18 18:00:56 <smickles>	don't we even still have troops in kosovo?
Dec 18 18:01:10 <mod6>	yeah, my gf's cousin just got back from there
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Dec 18 18:01:48 <mod6>	was talking to him... a bit of a sob story of a $20 blow job from a local retarded girl...
Dec 18 18:01:53 <thestringpuller>	yeeeaaaa
Dec 18 18:01:57 <thestringpuller>	my mpoe sols
Dec 18 18:01:58 <mod6>	he felt bad... i told him he got ripped off.
Dec 18 18:01:59 <thestringpuller>	sold
Dec 18 18:02:19 <mod6>	whatever happened to $5 dollar, sucky, sucky?!
Dec 18 18:02:21 <thestringpuller>	smickles btw im holding you to that jan 31st time capsule liquidation thing
Dec 18 18:02:22 <mod6>	inflation
Dec 18 18:02:38 <smickles>	thestringpuller: it's easy to fulfill that on my end :)
Dec 18 18:02:48 <thestringpuller>	sell it now!
Dec 18 18:02:54 <thestringpuller>	sell sell sell panic sell
Dec 18 18:03:00 <thestringpuller>	ceo said jig is uo
Dec 18 18:03:01 <smickles>	lol
Dec 18 18:03:08 <thestringpuller>	cool
Dec 18 18:03:10 <thestringpuller>	:)
Dec 18 18:03:43 <jurov>	he's not some puny ceo. he's pwner
Dec 18 18:04:07 <mod6>	haha, thats a sweet title: Chief Pwner
Dec 18 18:04:22 <smickles>	and he has 97% of the shares, if the jig were up, there would be no buy orders left
Dec 18 18:13:26 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 18 18:13:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.20151, Best ask: 13.29900, Bid-ask spread: 0.09749, Last trade: 13.20152, 24 hour volume: 23981.36477118, 24 hour low: 13.10250, 24 hour high: 13.39807, 24 hour vwap: 13.23612
Dec 18 18:13:42 <thestringpuller>	panic sell!
Dec 18 18:13:56 <thestringpuller>	get your fiat while you can!
Dec 18 18:14:31 <smickles>	thestringpuller: naw, buy puts
Dec 18 18:15:05 <smickles>	i'm selling 2 P140T currently ;)
Dec 18 18:15:42 <thestringpuller>	for like what .5 btc a contract?
Dec 18 18:15:44 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 18 18:16:09 <smickles>	na, about .165
Dec 18 18:16:38 <smickles>	it would break even for you around 12 usd/btc
Dec 18 18:17:31 <thestringpuller>	its not gonma drop
Dec 18 18:17:48 <thestringpuller>	thay much
Dec 18 18:20:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6192 @ 0.00062237 = 3.8537 BTC [+]
Dec 18 18:20:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00062237 = 1.8671 BTC [+]
Dec 18 18:20:33 <thestringpuller>	finally
Dec 18 18:20:42 <thestringpuller>	my 1.8671
Dec 18 18:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00062813 = 1.8844 BTC [+]
Dec 18 18:29:00 <thestringpuller>	smickles: i will take you up on the s.dice when time is right
Dec 18 18:29:46 <smickles>	If I'm not on irc, email me. That should ping my phone
Dec 18 18:33:19 <smickles>	Alright, coffee, for me, has just become an excuse to drink heavy cream
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Dec 18 18:44:29 <mod6>	smickles: i'm looking up some good reading for you ... just a minute
Dec 18 18:59:36 <mod6>	hmm. have to get back to you, found about 1/2 of the stuff.
Dec 18 19:03:08 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 18 19:03:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.20103, Best ask: 13.29898, Bid-ask spread: 0.09795, Last trade: 13.20103, 24 hour volume: 23192.28034554, 24 hour low: 13.11000, 24 hour high: 13.39807, 24 hour vwap: 13.23518
Dec 18 19:19:37 <mod6>	I recently finished The Rise & Fall of the Third Reich.
Dec 18 19:21:00 <mod6>	Chapter 8 might be a good read (pp. 205): http://gooshbe.de/upload/files/BOOKS/Shirer_William_L_-_The_Rise_And_Fall_Of_The_Third_Reich_-_A_History_Of_Nazi_Germany_-.pdf
Dec 18 19:22:05 <mod6>	But you'll probably just want to skip down to the part in chapter 8 "The Economy of the Third Reich" (pp. 229)
Dec 18 19:24:21 <mod6>	weird, one thing I was going to point out is the first part on page 232, where hitler outlaw's small business with a value of less than $40,000 and new ones of less than $200,000
Dec 18 19:24:52 <mod6>	but the weird part is that my book, the physical one in front of my doesn't say "$200,000" it says "$2,000,000"
Dec 18 19:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8090 @ 0.00062813 = 5.0816 BTC [+]
Dec 18 19:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00062874 = 4.5584 BTC [+]
Dec 18 19:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10260 @ 0.000636 = 6.5254 BTC [+]
Dec 18 19:26:50 <smickles>	mod6: different translations? lol
Dec 18 19:27:03 <mod6>	lol, no seriously, im going to take a picture
Dec 18 19:30:39 <smickles>	mod6: hmm, do you have any suggested reading for the topic of what the rich in germany did before the nazis began their rise?
Dec 18 19:32:52 <mod6>	well, yeah, its all in there about the business leaders too. they were duped.
Dec 18 19:33:51 <mod6>	they figured it out after it was too late. at first everyone was really excited about hitler.  all the big business leaders donated to him.
Dec 18 19:35:39 <mod6>	i'd have to hunt down some parts for you in there. The whole book is amazing.
Dec 18 19:36:04 <mod6>	All of the first book (chapts 1-8) are about everything before 1939 basically.
Dec 18 19:36:26 <mod6>	so its about 400 pp's but its worth the read. at least I thought it was :D
Dec 18 19:36:32 <mod6>	wow, what an eye-opener.
Dec 18 19:38:07 *	smickles reads
Dec 18 19:41:37 <mod6>	here's that picture so yall don't think im full of shit
Dec 18 19:41:38 <mod6>	http://www.bitotter.com/IMAG0559.jpg
Dec 18 19:43:28 <mod6>	oooh it must be something like a translation thing smickles -- some of the numbers are off too... and his site is in .de so *shrug*
Dec 18 19:43:43 <mod6>	anyway, im off for a bit. c-ya!
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Dec 18 19:57:16 <thestringpuller>	just as I got back
Dec 18 19:57:17 <thestringpuller>	boo
Dec 18 19:57:19 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 18 19:57:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.20322, Best ask: 13.29999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09677, Last trade: 13.20322, 24 hour volume: 23482.87164058, 24 hour low: 13.11000, 24 hour high: 13.38000, 24 hour vwap: 13.23323
Dec 18 20:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10814 @ 0.000636 = 6.8777 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 20:21:34 <rbenzaquen>	You guys knows why this is a malformed order?
Dec 18 20:21:37 <rbenzaquen>	./mpex.py BUY {S.DICE}{25}
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Dec 18 20:23:41 <kakobreklaa>	rbenzaquen Azelphur might be able to assist you there
Dec 18 20:23:59 <Azelphur>	rbenzaquen: you arn't supposed to put {}
Dec 18 20:24:01 <kakobreklaa>	i drink mpex raw.
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Dec 18 20:24:19 <Azelphur>	kakobreklaa: it actually is raw, it's exactly the same syntax :)
Dec 18 20:24:25 <Azelphur>	my script just passes the raw string off
Dec 18 20:24:31 <kakobreklaa>	a
Dec 18 20:24:36 <kakobreklaa>	i made something simmilar
Dec 18 20:24:39 <kakobreklaa>	but never accually use it
Dec 18 20:24:42 <rbenzaquen>	./mpex.py BUYS.DICE25
Dec 18 20:24:47 <rbenzaquen>	something like this?
Dec 18 20:25:25 <rbenzaquen>	or this?
Dec 18 20:25:25 <rbenzaquen>	./mpex.py BUY|S.DICE|25
Dec 18 20:26:38 <kakobreklaa>	if its the same, then |
Dec 18 20:27:38 <rbenzaquen>	kakobreklaa: but ./mpex.py BUY|S.DICE|25 is not working on linux cause is a pipe.
Dec 18 20:27:47 <rbenzaquen>	Could you put an example here please?
Dec 18 20:28:46 <kakobreklaa>	BUY|S:DICE|1|359999
Dec 18 20:28:51 <kakobreklaa>	eh
Dec 18 20:28:56 <kakobreklaa>	BUY|S.DICE|1|359999
Dec 18 20:29:17 <kakobreklaa>	1 share at 0.00359999
Dec 18 20:30:00 <kakobreklaa>	escape the pipe if you are using shell perhaps
Dec 18 20:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 208 @ 0.00359999 = 0.7488 BTC [-]
Dec 18 20:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 792 @ 0.0036 = 2.8512 BTC [+]
Dec 18 20:30:08 <kakobreklaa>	i mean cli
Dec 18 20:30:59 <kakobreklaa>	dunno
Dec 18 20:31:17 <rbenzaquen>	Thanks Guys!!
Dec 18 20:31:35 <kakobreklaa>	sure
Dec 18 20:31:42 <rbenzaquen>	look at this
Dec 18 20:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.0036 = 72 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 20:35:24 <thestringpuller>	is s.dice making a lot of money?
Dec 18 20:35:33 <thestringpuller>	(a lot of people are losing money on gamblin')?
Dec 18 20:35:36 <kakobreklaa>	you must be new
Dec 18 20:35:40 <thestringpuller>	no
Dec 18 20:35:45 <thestringpuller>	i'm new to S.DICE cause I don't gamble
Dec 18 20:36:07 <kakobreklaa>	profits charts were posted here like 10 times in the last month
Dec 18 20:36:19 <kakobreklaa>	they are in teh forums.
Dec 18 20:36:27 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Dec 18 20:36:31 <thestringpuller>	i'm lazy
Dec 18 20:36:33 <thestringpuller>	i'll look later
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Dec 18 20:39:51 <dub>	http://www.paragoulddailypress.com/articles/2012/12/15/top_story/doc50cbbb312e241511092932.txt
Dec 18 20:40:19 <dub>	breaking: walking is unamerican
Dec 18 20:43:06 <dub>	that is some fuckign hillbilly talk
Dec 18 20:48:31 <thestringpuller>	regex ftw
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Dec 18 20:48:58 <chippewa>	chippewa-adm: Hi guy
Dec 18 20:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063563 = 2.7466 BTC [-]
Dec 18 20:49:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00063555 = 2.6693 BTC [-]
Dec 18 20:49:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00063342 = 5.1307 BTC [-]
Dec 18 20:56:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10332 @ 0.00062893 = 6.4981 BTC [-]
Dec 18 20:56:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.000634 = 1.902 BTC [+]
Dec 18 20:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 568 @ 0.000636 = 0.3612 BTC [+]
Dec 18 21:00:57 <smickles>	;;later tell mircea_popescu < mircea_popescu> so with the new inputs the differences from mpoe reduced or amplified ? well, with the new inputs I acutally began getting sane results, this is when the interesting subtleties emerged
Dec 18 21:00:58 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 18 21:02:28 <smickles>	;;lucky satoshi dice statistical analysis
Dec 18 21:02:30 <gribble>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.380
Dec 18 21:02:33 <smickles>	thestringpuller: ^^
Dec 18 21:07:29 <kakobreklaa>	i guess lucky could mean lazy
Dec 18 21:07:44 <thestringpuller>	smickles: the total dump on MPOE last night was 1109.392 BTC
Dec 18 21:08:06 <thestringpuller>	based on http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/let-me-show-you-why-i-like-bitcoin/
Dec 18 21:08:30 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,stats
Dec 18 21:08:32 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 212402 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 1293 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 11 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2941878.82602564 | Estimated Percent Change: -12.7086014572
Dec 18 21:09:41 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 18 21:09:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.25286, Best ask: 13.34998, Bid-ask spread: 0.09712, Last trade: 13.25229, 24 hour volume: 23417.42925425, 24 hour low: 13.11000, 24 hour high: 13.38000, 24 hour vwap: 13.23461
Dec 18 21:10:29 <thestringpuller>	24 hour volatility is only 27 cents
Dec 18 21:11:07 <dub>	ikr the fuck is wrong with your people
Dec 18 21:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063598 = 2.7481 BTC [-]
Dec 18 21:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.000636 = 3.3574 BTC [+]
Dec 18 21:15:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.000636 = 6.042 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 22:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00062912 = 5.2846 BTC [-]
Dec 18 22:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10403 @ 0.000636 = 6.6163 BTC [+]
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Dec 18 23:11:38 <smickles>	;;calc 24/13.23461
Dec 18 23:11:39 <gribble>	1.81342706736
Dec 18 23:11:43 <smickles>	;;calc .24/13.23461
Dec 18 23:11:43 <gribble>	0.0181342706736
Dec 18 23:12:12 <smickles>	;;calc (.24/13.23461)**(1/365)
Dec 18 23:12:12 <gribble>	0.989073958458
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Dec 18 23:12:30 <smickles>	yeah, 98.9% volatility, no biggie
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Dec 18 23:12:52 <smickles>	heh, did that wrong anyway
Dec 18 23:13:58 <smickles>	;;calc (.24/13.23461)*365**.5
Dec 18 23:13:59 <gribble>	0.34645475476
Dec 18 23:14:03 <smickles>	there we are
Dec 18 23:14:15 <smickles>	34% volatility based off of that number
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Dec 18 23:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062456 = 2.6987 BTC [-]
Dec 18 23:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8329 @ 0.00062428 = 5.1996 BTC [-]
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Dec 19 00:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063574 = 2.747 BTC [+]
Dec 19 00:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28179 @ 0.000636 = 17.9218 BTC [+]
Dec 19 00:13:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15309 @ 0.000636 = 9.7365 BTC [+]
Dec 19 00:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19755 @ 0.00063658 = 12.5756 BTC [+]
Dec 19 00:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4536 @ 0.00063658 = 2.8875 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 00:28:38 <mod6>	smickles: also, on pp. 55, there is a three page part about the hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic, thats worth your time too
Dec 19 00:28:50 <mod6>	here's the url again: http://gooshbe.de/upload/files/BOOKS/Shirer_William_L_-_The_Rise_And_Fall_Of_The_Third_Reich_-_A_History_Of_Nazi_Germany_-.pdf
Dec 19 00:29:18 <mod6>	it starts with the section "A House Divided"
Dec 19 00:30:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00063658 = 7.1297 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 01:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	aaaaaaaaai'm a lumberjack and i'm okay...
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Dec 19 01:22:38 <smickles>	mod6: thx :)
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Dec 19 01:23:21 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: sometimes you act way too much like my first girlfriend
Dec 19 01:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 19 01:23:49 <smickles>	* you like monty python
Dec 19 01:23:53 <smickles>	*you say 'prolly'
Dec 19 01:24:11 <smickles>	i'm going to go have a smoke instead of continuing this list
Dec 19 01:24:13 <smickles>	:P
Dec 19 01:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 19 01:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was moar like, 1. you beat up on naked girls ; 2. you do magics with money ; 3. you're pretty fucking scary ; 4. you have the biggest beard i ever saw outside of like, a deceased patriarch
Dec 19 01:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	which'd be pretty strange for a GIRLFRIEND
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Dec 19 01:35:50 <Ukto>	anyone with a BF account happen to be awake?
Dec 19 01:36:45 <pigeons>	ya
Dec 19 01:37:02 <Ukto>	do you happen to have any orders placed atm?
Dec 19 01:37:15 <pigeons>	no
Dec 19 01:37:18 <Ukto>	k
Dec 19 01:37:43 <Ukto>	Just wanted to make sure ppl could see the 'my ask'/'my bid' and cancel button on the orders list
Dec 19 01:38:27 <Ukto>	pigeons: did you see the new depth graph? kinda crappy, but not bad for a first start
Dec 19 01:38:37 <Ukto>	gonna try to add that selector line like on the trading graph
Dec 19 01:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto how's the bond pt going ?
Dec 19 01:40:21 <pigeons>	yeah cool
Dec 19 01:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.0036 = 6.12 BTC [+]
Dec 19 01:41:11 <Ukto>	387 shares sold (0.1 value)
Dec 19 01:41:28 <Ukto>	wait
Dec 19 01:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	so likely it will get to 100 huh
Dec 19 01:41:29 *	Ukto eyes
Dec 19 01:41:47 <Ukto>	287 shares sold
Dec 19 01:41:54 <Ukto>	about 28btc
Dec 19 01:41:58 <Ukto>	so it COULD make it
Dec 19 01:42:05 <Ukto>	if anything get pretty close
Dec 19 01:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	a so about same as yest
Dec 19 01:42:37 <Ukto>	been aboud 140shares per day so far
Dec 19 01:42:51 <Ukto>	if it maintains, then yeah, should have enough
Dec 19 01:43:00 <Ukto>	but with finals
Dec 19 01:43:02 <Ukto>	and holidays
Dec 19 01:43:06 <Ukto>	ppl will be stepping away
Dec 19 01:43:09 <Ukto>	so it may not, hard to say
Dec 19 01:43:37 <Ukto>	the only real attention BF is getting, is the securities forum, and that reddit post jurov linked it in
Dec 19 01:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	kind of a hard sell for btc veterans. i imagine it must be attractive to new ppl.
Dec 19 01:45:07 <Ukto>	well, the bonds have a reasonably good history
Dec 19 01:45:34 <Ukto>	though a 2~4% gain, with the risk of that nasty looking possible-pirate month scares alot of ppl it seems
Dec 19 01:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	i meant more generally bf
Dec 19 01:45:40 <Ukto>	thats the only complanit I have seen
Dec 19 01:45:48 <Ukto>	ah yeah
Dec 19 01:45:53 <Ukto>	well
Dec 19 01:46:00 <Ukto>	sat least ppl like it
Dec 19 01:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise the bonds do tend to collect about enough capital each time
Dec 19 01:46:04 <Ukto>	or choose it over other options
Dec 19 01:46:11 <Ukto>	the test with the sdice asset
Dec 19 01:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	originally people were putting like 2-3k in, cause it's what it used, then it had that 8k month i covered for
Dec 19 01:46:16 <Ukto>	is showing to be almost 4:1 now
Dec 19 01:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	so people put in like 8-10k
Dec 19 01:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	recently it had that 40k month, i imagine it'll get filled close to that again
Dec 19 01:46:51 <Ukto>	yeah, too bad I didnt get any in for this month. ;)
Dec 19 01:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 19 01:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	what's 4:1 ?
Dec 19 01:47:11 <Ukto>	the ppl who chose bf
Dec 19 01:47:14 <Ukto>	over .. others
Dec 19 01:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	o hehe
Dec 19 01:47:26 <pigeons>	2 out of 3 dentists prefer glbse
Dec 19 01:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 19 01:47:39 <Ukto>	in shareholder counts. share counts, pffft, almost no comparison
Dec 19 01:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah dude pigeons is like the aftershave of humour.
Dec 19 01:47:56 <Ukto>	yeah, i like em
Dec 19 01:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	as stringent as aftershave anyway
Dec 19 01:48:03 <Ukto>	until he decides to go on a drive bomb run
Dec 19 01:48:57 <Ukto>	Ahh
Dec 19 01:49:01 <Ukto>	got the selector line now in teh depth graph
Dec 19 01:49:23 <Ukto>	and zooming
Dec 19 01:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol funny how jurov's reddit got 8 yes 8 no votes
Dec 19 01:54:04 <Ukto>	what other graphing type info
Dec 19 01:54:06 <Ukto>	can I display...
Dec 19 01:54:40 <Ukto>	any use for a polar chart... mebbe a nifty pie?
Dec 19 01:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	mmmm pie
Dec 19 01:56:05 <Ukto>	donut chart?
Dec 19 01:56:06 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 19 01:56:37 <mircea_popescu>	ok so sr was haxxored
Dec 19 01:57:06 <Ukto>	I woudl do OHLC & Candles... but as I said before.. its a 24hr market... seems that open/close is pointless data
Dec 19 01:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	someone seems to be usiong some sort of sql injection to replace item images
Dec 19 02:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00355763 = 12.4517 BTC [-]
Dec 19 02:10:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 363 @ 0.0035 = 1.2705 BTC [-]
Dec 19 02:17:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063658 = 10.1853 BTC [+]
Dec 19 02:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006348 = 2.743 BTC [-]
Dec 19 02:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00063453 = 3.2862 BTC [-]
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Dec 19 02:42:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063623 = 2.7491 BTC [+]
Dec 19 02:42:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00063658 = 0.1273 BTC [+]
Dec 19 02:42:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37477 @ 0.00063666 = 23.8601 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 03:14:57 <Ukto>	dinally posted a forum avatar... >:P~   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.0
Dec 19 03:15:15 <Ukto>	*finally
Dec 19 03:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063467 = 2.7424 BTC [-]
Dec 19 03:32:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20879 @ 0.00063453 = 13.2484 BTC [-]
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Dec 19 03:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063477 = 2.7428 BTC [+]
Dec 19 03:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 172 @ 0.00063453 = 0.1091 BTC [-]
Dec 19 03:57:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8076 @ 0.000629 = 5.0798 BTC [-]
Dec 19 04:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1048 @ 0.00062922 = 0.6594 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 04:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	The top 5 percent of households in Washington, D.C., made more than $500,000 on average last year, while the bottom 20 percent earned less than $9,500 - a ratio of 54 to 1.
Dec 19 04:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	take from the rich, take from the poor, give to yourself.
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Dec 19 04:37:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063633 = 2.7496 BTC [+]
Dec 19 04:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10079 @ 0.00063666 = 6.4169 BTC [+]
Dec 19 05:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3273 @ 0.00062922 = 2.0594 BTC [-]
Dec 19 05:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 728 @ 0.000629 = 0.4579 BTC [-]
Dec 19 05:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3199 @ 0.00062794 = 2.0088 BTC [-]
Dec 19 05:56:53 <pigeons>	we'll see how this goes ;) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131573.0;topicseen
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Dec 19 07:07:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006282 = 2.7145 BTC [+]
Dec 19 07:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5801 @ 0.00062794 = 3.6427 BTC [-]
Dec 19 07:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00062679 = 4.8576 BTC [-]
Dec 19 07:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2943 @ 0.00062428 = 1.8373 BTC [-]
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Dec 19 07:10:11 <pigeons>	hmm dunno how that mpoe short will go
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Dec 19 07:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00063163 = 2.6566 BTC [+]
Dec 19 07:19:26 <jurov>	pigeons, maybe you can try issue bonds on bitfunder :D
Dec 19 07:24:56 <thestringpuller>	so pigeons did the mpoe short
Dec 19 07:30:29 <jurov>	on the other note, it's interesting how quickly it recovered
Dec 19 07:39:04 <pigeons>	no it wasn't me
Dec 19 08:09:23 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: posted a idea to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg1409068#msg1409068 you can probably find useful too
Dec 19 08:09:51 <Ukto>	ah
Dec 19 08:09:55 <EskimoBob>	this is a simple fix to broken IPO market.
Dec 19 08:09:57 <Ukto>	working to fight javascript
Dec 19 08:10:01 <Ukto>	and its inability to do real math
Dec 19 08:16:17 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 19 08:16:19 <Ukto>	thats all easy stuff
Dec 19 08:16:22 <Ukto>	if he says otherwise
Dec 19 08:16:24 *	Ukto shrugs
Dec 19 08:16:41 <Ukto>	I'll look at it late tonight, or over the weekend
Dec 19 08:17:02 <Ukto>	but the 'how to' do it is already written in my head. just gotta put it in :P
Dec 19 08:18:31 <Ukto>	and since you didnt post it in bf's thread, I dont feel the need to have to timestamp reply "Done!" :P
Dec 19 08:19:54 <jurov>	EskimoBob, I start to get impression these IPO "flaws" are completely in your head
Dec 19 08:20:12 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 19 08:20:18 <Ukto>	jurov: more shares have sold
Dec 19 08:20:33 <Ukto>	assuming final exams, and holiday dont hamper things
Dec 19 08:20:37 <Ukto>	should hit the minimal needed
Dec 19 08:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2036 @ 0.00062428 = 1.271 BTC [-]
Dec 19 08:20:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00062247 = 1.4628 BTC [-]
Dec 19 08:20:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2664 @ 0.00062111 = 1.6546 BTC [-]
Dec 19 08:20:47 <Ukto>	which means next month should easily hit it
Dec 19 08:21:12 <Ukto>	assuming the bonds dont get eaten :P
Dec 19 08:21:26 <Ukto>	for december
Dec 19 08:21:44 <jurov>	for example users can resell the promotional MPBPT shares and thus make us sell less... but I don't believe it will be significant part nor give a shit about that.
Dec 19 08:22:52 <jurov>	Ukto, looks like there is no great btc price shakeup on horizon.. so mpoe should be profitable
Dec 19 08:23:40 <jurov>	but anything can happen, ofc. some folks around have their doubts about mtgox ... and then all bets are off
Dec 19 08:26:01 <pigeons>	thanks for the jinx jurov
Dec 19 08:27:03 <jurov>	jinx?
Dec 19 08:27:43 <pigeons>	"looks like there is no great btc price shakeup on horizon.. so mpoe should be profitable"
Dec 19 08:29:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062111 = 6.8943 BTC [-]
Dec 19 08:30:43 <Ukto>	what doubts about gox?
Dec 19 08:31:32 <jurov>	mtgox payout delays for some fiat currencies are going longer and longer
Dec 19 08:31:44 <Ukto>	thats normal news
Dec 19 08:31:48 <Ukto>	for a year and a half
Dec 19 08:31:56 <pigeons>	and black swans and stuff
Dec 19 08:32:11 <Ukto>	pigeons: I dont want to know
Dec 19 08:32:13 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 19 08:32:28 <pigeons>	:)
Dec 19 08:32:58 <jurov>	i don't understand people who put up with that. some year ago my sepa transfer took 2weeks, so i told fuck you mtgox and never looked back.
Dec 19 08:33:09 <Ukto>	alright
Dec 19 08:33:14 <Ukto>	i updated the calc feature on BF
Dec 19 08:33:24 <Ukto>	if the total btc to buy is more than available, it turns red
Dec 19 08:33:36 <Ukto>	if teh share amount to sell is more than available, then btoh the amount and total fields turn red
Dec 19 08:33:37 <Ukto>	text
Dec 19 08:34:07 <Ukto>	js is randomly bitching about the 7th and 8th decimal places tho
Dec 19 08:34:33 <Ukto>	4 * 0.00000111 is fine.. but 4 * 0.00000011 = 4.4e-7
Dec 19 08:34:53 <Ukto>	even though its the same number of places on the output
Dec 19 08:38:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2136 @ 0.00062111 = 1.3267 BTC [-]
Dec 19 08:38:36 <jurov>	Ukto, can't you convert stuff to satoshi as first step and back as very last one?
Dec 19 08:38:50 <Ukto>	going to have to
Dec 19 08:38:53 <EskimoBob>	jurov: i have a feeling, you have never ever participated in any real life IPO and you are way outside of your area of competence. :)
Dec 19 08:38:54 <Ukto>	just an annoying pita
Dec 19 08:39:12 <pigeons>	gotta start somewhere
Dec 19 08:40:44 <jurov>	EskimoBob, that is not an argument. instead you could have directed your energy into explaining why the "flaws" are so serious to warrant such bitching ;)
Dec 19 08:41:01 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: wht do you even fuck around with decimals? Not a good idea in any financial system
Dec 19 08:41:59 <jurov>	cause if so many people resell instead of going long, that is imho bad price setting, or the stock is considered risky for long-term investment, etc.
Dec 19 08:42:22 <EskimoBob>	jurov: did you blink for too long when reading it? The "flaw" is described ;)
Dec 19 08:42:31 <jurov>	nothing that can be solved by forbidding to resell during IPO
Dec 19 08:42:42 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: just on the web display
Dec 19 08:42:45 <EskimoBob>	jurov: I guess you have to read up what IPO is for
Dec 19 08:42:52 <Ukto>	since people type decimal format into a price box
Dec 19 08:42:56 <Ukto>	you have to start from decimal
Dec 19 08:43:12 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: but you still do math in that "layer"?
Dec 19 08:43:22 <EskimoBob>	yes, correct
Dec 19 08:43:28 <Ukto>	jurov: yes, turn the text price into satoshis, but when i go to divide bak to show it in decimal format, i still get 1e-7 & 1e-8
Dec 19 08:43:43 <Ukto>	i do the mat at the sataoshi level
Dec 19 08:43:46 <Ukto>	not decimal format
Dec 19 08:43:54 <Ukto>	the issue is converting it back to decimal format for dispalying
Dec 19 08:44:12 <EskimoBob>	OK, i see, this is a display problem
Dec 19 08:44:19 <Ukto>	its javascript being shitty
Dec 19 08:44:39 <jurov>	Ok, I think there is some js formatting function, don't remember exactly
Dec 19 08:45:22 <Ukto>	i think I can do toFixed...
Dec 19 08:45:24 <Ukto>	mebbe
Dec 19 08:45:31 <Ukto>	or toPrecision
Dec 19 08:45:45 <EskimoBob>	https://www.google.ee/search?q=javascript+integer+to+decimal
Dec 19 08:46:30 <Ukto>	yes
Dec 19 08:46:33 <Ukto>	thats what I just said
Dec 19 08:47:29 <EskimoBob>	/ Example: toPrecision(2) when the number has 5 digits (3 before, 2 after)
Dec 19 08:47:30 <EskimoBob>	/ It will round to the tens place expressed as an exponential
Dec 19 08:47:32 <EskimoBob>	num = 555.55;
Dec 19 08:47:34 <EskimoBob>	result = num.toPrecision(2); // result will equal 5.6e+2
Dec 19 08:48:03 <EskimoBob>	/ Example: toPrecision(4) when the number has 8 digits (4 before, 4 after)
Dec 19 08:48:04 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 19 08:48:05 <EskimoBob>	/ It will round to the ones place
Dec 19 08:48:07 <EskimoBob>	num = 5000.2349;
Dec 19 08:48:09 <Ukto>	thats why I ended with tofixed
Dec 19 08:48:09 <EskimoBob>	result = num.toPrecision(4); // result will equal 5000
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Dec 19 08:48:23 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: ive seen the apge :P
Dec 19 08:49:52 <EskimoBob>	is there a "round" or some crap like that for formatting the final number?
Dec 19 08:51:04 <EskimoBob>	function roundNumber(rnum, rlength) { // Arguments: number to round, number of decimal places
Dec 19 08:51:06 <EskimoBob>	            var newnumber = Math.round(rnum * Math.pow(10, rlength)) / Math.pow(10, rlength);
Dec 19 08:51:08 <EskimoBob>	            return newnumber;
Dec 19 08:51:10 <EskimoBob>	        }
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Dec 19 09:09:53 <thestringpuller>	javascript is lame
Dec 19 09:10:05 <thestringpuller>	your code is bad and you should feel bad
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Dec 19 09:11:19 <gigavps>	lol
Dec 19 09:12:59 <Ukto>	agreed
Dec 19 09:13:01 <Ukto>	its all fixed now
Dec 19 09:13:03 <Ukto>	and working nice
Dec 19 09:13:14 <Ukto>	i think I will also put a light red background color in the text box
Dec 19 09:13:21 <Ukto>	just in case the red bold text isnt enough
Dec 19 09:13:24 <Ukto>	for to understand
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Dec 19 09:19:59 <Ukto>	there
Dec 19 09:20:02 <Ukto>	much nicer
Dec 19 09:20:13 <Ukto>	turns totals to red if insufficient funds or shares
Dec 19 09:20:30 <Ukto>	and changes the text box background color to a light red of the price, or share amount field thats in the wrong
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Dec 19 09:26:48 <evoorhees>	everyone excited for Christmas? :)
Dec 19 09:29:28 <thestringpuller>	i am writing you an xmas present mr. vorhees
Dec 19 09:29:33 <thestringpuller>	for coinapult
Dec 19 09:29:35 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 19 09:30:11 <[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]>	what's coming first: mayan end of the world or asic?
Dec 19 09:30:57 <Diablo-D3>	who says thats mutually exclusive?
Dec 19 09:31:59 <evoorhees>	what do you mean, thestringpuller?
Dec 19 09:32:18 <evoorhees>	Mayan end of world comes first... it's on Friday
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Dec 19 09:33:29 <Diablo-D3>	friday isnt end of the world, its just the end of being sober
Dec 19 09:37:08 <thestringpuller>	evoorhees: its a surprise for coinapult
Dec 19 09:37:12 <thestringpuller>	;)
Dec 19 09:37:23 <evoorhees>	hmmm that makes me nervous
Dec 19 09:39:21 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: it's not my code :)
Dec 19 09:40:26 <evoorhees>	thestringpuller: is this a good suprise or bad suprise?
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Dec 19 09:44:55 <thestringpuller>	good surprise
Dec 19 09:45:10 <jurov>	thestringpuller is adding insta-doublespend function into his dice android client
Dec 19 09:45:11 <thestringpuller>	evoorhees: dont make me ruin the surprise tho!
Dec 19 09:45:30 <thestringpuller>	jurov got jokes and jokes
Dec 19 09:45:33 <evoorhees>	hehe
Dec 19 09:45:59 <evoorhees>	how do you guys think SatoshiDice makes money? It just double spends all the money back to people ;)
Dec 19 09:46:05 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 19 09:46:22 <evoorhees>	won't be discovered until the whole thing collapses on the day of the mayan apocalypse
Dec 19 09:46:30 <thestringpuller>	im making something to make coinapult a one click use
Dec 19 09:46:44 <evoorhees>	thestringpuller: do you know Ira, the developer of coinapult?
Dec 19 09:47:02 <pigeons>	hey goes by bearbones on here
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Dec 19 09:47:21 <EskimoBob>	wtf ...  [WTS] Used Panties https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131030.0;topicseen
Dec 19 09:47:23 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Dec 19 09:47:44 <Ukto>	is he japanese?
Dec 19 09:47:52 <EskimoBob>	no idea
Dec 19 09:47:57 <Ukto>	evoorhees
Dec 19 09:47:59 <kakobrekla>	i had a few of those sold on my site
Dec 19 09:48:04 <Ukto>	got a sec to talk?
Dec 19 09:48:09 <evoorhees>	sure
Dec 19 09:48:11 <Ukto>	I was gonna poke terra but hes still off skype
Dec 19 09:49:57 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131030.msg1408408#msg1408408
Dec 19 09:50:47 <kakobrekla>	hahaha
Dec 19 09:50:52 <kakobrekla>	panty-otc
Dec 19 09:50:59 <kakobrekla>	err
Dec 19 09:51:01 <kakobrekla>	wot
Dec 19 09:52:14 <thestringpuller>	evoorhees: no dont know him
Dec 19 09:56:46 <EskimoBob>	has anyone done business with ciuciu?
Dec 19 09:56:50 <evoorhees>	thestringpuller: well if you're actually doing something for coinapult I'd like to put you in touch with him
Dec 19 09:58:57 <EskimoBob>	never mind...
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Dec 19 10:06:07 <EskimoBob>	this is cool : http://blog.perunature.com/2012/12/new-species-of-decoy-spider-likely.html
Dec 19 10:07:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00061895 = 4.5183 BTC [-]
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Dec 19 10:30:37 <thestringpuller>	evoorhees: lemme get prototype out and we can have meeting
Dec 19 10:30:53 <thestringpuller>	its more of a ui wrapper for now
Dec 19 10:31:25 <thestringpuller>	its inspired from a blogpost you wrote on bitinstant during the brazil conference.
Dec 19 10:34:22 <jcpham>	howdy asshats
Dec 19 10:34:26 <jcpham>	i mean, assets
Dec 19 10:36:47 <EskimoBob>	lol
Dec 19 10:36:52 <EskimoBob>	nice one jcpham
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Dec 19 10:39:42 <jcpham>	it was a slip, i swear ;p
Dec 19 10:39:54 <kakobrekla>	the keys are right next to each other
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Dec 19 10:45:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 19 10:45:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30711, Best ask: 13.38399, Bid-ask spread: 0.07688, Last trade: 13.30711, 24 hour volume: 24066.25823172, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.28970
Dec 19 10:46:30 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: there is plenty of twitchy asshats around
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Dec 19 10:59:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00061895 = 2.4139 BTC [-]
Dec 19 10:59:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00061742 = 0.247 BTC [-]
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Dec 19 11:17:05 <EskimoBob>	UPDATE:weekly dividend is set
Dec 19 11:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061875 = 2.6736 BTC [+]
Dec 19 11:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2445 @ 0.00061891 = 1.5132 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 11:32:29 <mircea_popescu>	evening all
Dec 19 11:40:56 <jcpham>	https://plus.google.com/116009350848067911037/posts/WS4c37YykE5
Dec 19 11:43:26 <smickles>	good forenoon mircea_popescu :)
Dec 19 11:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	hammering out an announcement re s.mpoe
Dec 19 11:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061756 = 2.6685 BTC [-]
Dec 19 11:43:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7464 @ 0.00061742 = 4.6084 BTC [-]
Dec 19 11:44:01 <mircea_popescu>	and also check out all the love  http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/#comment-91034
Dec 19 11:45:38 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: well, I too think it would be better to value based on the free float
Dec 19 11:45:52 <thestringpuller>	MtGox will soon be eclipsed
Dec 19 11:46:01 <mircea_popescu>	smickles why ?
Dec 19 11:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	if i sell you one acre out of a 10 acre plot of land would you propose the value of the plot is based on your acre ?
Dec 19 11:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	rather than ~10x what you paid ?
Dec 19 11:46:36 <smickles>	because of the control you _can_ exert on the price
Dec 19 11:47:24 <smickles>	I think that both forms of valuation are important
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Dec 19 11:48:28 <smickles>	but considering that you own (and presumably won't sell) ~95% of shares, those 95% wouldn't be considered for a lot of market cap valuation purposes
Dec 19 11:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	well surely everything should be considered
Dec 19 11:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	but the presumption is false, which is why im writing. brb.
Dec 19 11:48:57 <smickles>	for example, the S&P 500 only considers free float market cap
Dec 19 11:49:25 <smickles>	one could consider the free float to be 50% of shares tho
Dec 19 11:50:26 <chippewa>	mircea_popescu: Good morning!
Dec 19 11:50:34 <mircea_popescu>	chippewa hi
Dec 19 11:50:52 <chippewa>	I'm Rodrigo with a new nick name
Dec 19 11:51:24 <smickles>	yeah, taking a strict definition, only 50% of shares are 'locked in'
Dec 19 11:52:00 <smickles>	I'm not aware of any institutional holders who would claim ownership and buy/neutral/sell position
Dec 19 11:52:19 <smickles>	!ticker s.mpoe
Dec 19 11:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00059079 / 0.00061942 / 0.00063666 (697023 shares, 431.75 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053538 / 0.00063995 (102520389 shares, 54,887.71 BTC)
Dec 19 11:52:51 <smickles>	;;calc .00061942 * (1000000000 - 500000000)
Dec 19 11:52:51 <gribble>	309710
Dec 19 11:53:13 <smickles>	;;calc .00061942 * (1000000000)
Dec 19 11:53:13 <gribble>	619420
Dec 19 11:53:29 <smickles>	so there you have free float market cap followed by implied valuation
Dec 19 11:53:57 <smickles>	(as best as I can figure from all available information)
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Dec 19 11:54:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1876 @ 0.00061891 = 1.1611 BTC [+]
Dec 19 11:54:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1374 @ 0.000619 = 0.8505 BTC [+]
Dec 19 11:55:22 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: unless, of course, you have made a statemtent that you don't intend to ever sell some of that available 50% (the remaining 45% iirc)
Dec 19 11:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061883 = 2.674 BTC [-]
Dec 19 11:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4779 @ 0.000619 = 2.9582 BTC [+]
Dec 19 11:56:25 <smickles>	oh, and mircea_popescu even considering the quality of the source (investopedia): "
Dec 19 11:56:33 <smickles>	"The free-float method is seen as a better way of calculating market capitalization because it provides a more accurate reflection of market movements."
Dec 19 11:58:19 <smickles>	lol, wtf is a 'satoshisecond'?
Dec 19 11:59:10 <smickles>	what is that 2weiX going on about anyway? 5% cut? 10% cut? do they not realize you essentiall have a 95% cut?
Dec 19 12:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/smpoe-owner-shares-block/ << announcement.
Dec 19 12:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> because of the control you _can_ exert on the price <<< if I have 500k btc i CAN exert the same exact control on the price as if I had 1bn shares.
Dec 19 12:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	what difference does it make ? of course I have resources. so do others.
Dec 19 12:08:10 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: how did you get rich?
Dec 19 12:08:22 <thestringpuller>	did you rob someone?
Dec 19 12:08:40 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: who told you he is rich?
Dec 19 12:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	heh. no.
Dec 19 12:08:59 <thestringpuller>	srsly though howd you build your wealth?
Dec 19 12:09:11 <kakobrekla>	a coin at a atime.
Dec 19 12:09:13 <thestringpuller>	before bitcoin
Dec 19 12:09:16 <thestringpuller>	:P
Dec 19 12:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	by getting the biggest guns, aiming them well and sticking to it.
Dec 19 12:09:27 *	thestringpuller has read announcement
Dec 19 12:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	you know, sorta like i built mpex.
Dec 19 12:09:46 <thestringpuller>	secretive are we?
Dec 19 12:09:54 <thestringpuller>	so you are a gun smuggler?
Dec 19 12:10:06 <thestringpuller>	were*
Dec 19 12:10:14 <smickles>	thestringpuller: assasin
Dec 19 12:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	rockstar
Dec 19 12:10:26 <smickles>	as if i'd know tho
Dec 19 12:10:44 <thestringpuller>	i want to see btc fund a war
Dec 19 12:10:45 <smickles>	clearly, he made his monies as a blogger
Dec 19 12:10:59 <smickles>	i'd rather there wasn't a war
Dec 19 12:11:19 <thestringpuller>	even if it freed the north koreans?
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Dec 19 12:11:33 <mircea_popescu>	smickles you know, it was driving the romanians insane cause romanian incomes are really small and i was making a ton with the blog
Dec 19 12:11:33 <smickles>	thestringpuller: see, now you are putting conditions on it
Dec 19 12:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	in relative terms
Dec 19 12:11:36 <pigeons>	freed them to buy ipods?
Dec 19 12:12:13 <smickles>	thestringpuller: we ought to free ourselves a bit more before we get too concerned about koreans
Dec 19 12:12:30 <thestringpuller>	they made starcraft a science tho...
Dec 19 12:12:30 <mircea_popescu>	how about they free themselves ?
Dec 19 12:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	i ain't pissing for anyone else and neither am i freeing them.
Dec 19 12:12:55 <thestringpuller>	you dont like asian girls do you?
Dec 19 12:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	depends. if they're half-white or half-black i do
Dec 19 12:13:19 *	EskimoBob gets a beer
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Dec 19 12:13:41 <smickles>	dammit mircea_popescu be more subtle, the whole 'freeing ourselves a bit more' can go on indefinitely, we'd never actually get to the point of freeing koreans :P
Dec 19 12:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 19 12:14:20 <mircea_popescu>	that is a point.
Dec 19 12:14:36 <thestringpuller>	how do we free ourselves from mental slavery?
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Dec 19 12:14:52 <smickles>	what mindgames are you on about now?
Dec 19 12:14:56 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: search his website address and word spam :)
Dec 19 12:15:13 <smickles>	;;lucky polimedia.us spam
Dec 19 12:15:14 <gribble>	https://twitter.com/ro_spam
Dec 19 12:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	smickles but more's the point, were you aware of the sales plan for s.mpoe ?
Dec 19 12:15:31 <EskimoBob>	loads of funny stuff pops up
Dec 19 12:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 19 12:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	for the record, that twitter is run by a webhost for whom I was providing a honeypot address.
Dec 19 12:15:59 <jcpham>	derp
Dec 19 12:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	they were trying to catch spam.
Dec 19 12:16:13 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the auction part, yeah, but since it changed, i've been unsure
Dec 19 12:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	(was albinuta@polimedia.us)
Dec 19 12:16:18 <EskimoBob>	really? this is new
Dec 19 12:16:41 <thestringpuller>	smickles: bob marley mang: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds"
Dec 19 12:17:03 <pigeons>	have no fear for atomic energy none of dem canna stoppa da time
Dec 19 12:17:09 <thestringpuller>	yes!
Dec 19 12:17:23 <thestringpuller>	how long shall they kill our prophets
Dec 19 12:17:29 <thestringpuller>	while we stand around and look
Dec 19 12:17:31 <smickles>	thestringpuller: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sPKk3lINno
Dec 19 12:17:36 <smickles>	that's how
Dec 19 12:17:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061769 = 2.669 BTC [-]
Dec 19 12:17:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16186 @ 0.00061742 = 9.9936 BTC [-]
Dec 19 12:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4843 @ 0.0006151 = 2.9789 BTC [-]
Dec 19 12:17:49 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2012/12/19/temperance/
Dec 19 12:19:05 <jcpham>	zuck donates 500 mil
Dec 19 12:19:29 <pigeons>	to zynga
Dec 19 12:19:58 <jcpham>	sorry i only skimmed the headline
Dec 19 12:20:44 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Dec 19 12:20:56 <thestringpuller>	zynga is gonna go bankrupt
Dec 19 12:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	I don't understand why people rag on mpex. They complain about btc related businesses getting compromised. They complain about bots manipulating the pricing and "fake" walls on mtgox. mpex doesn't have any of that crap and people bitch about it - I don't get it.
Dec 19 12:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	waaah, I want rounded corners and lots of slick js and css...
Dec 19 12:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	waaah, slick-xchange got 0day'd via cornerrounder.js and all the accounts are locked/stolen...
Dec 19 12:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	waaah, people who know nothing about security are creating btc websites and getting hacked...
Dec 19 12:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	waaah, mpex uses proven encryption but gpg is hard and the submit screen is plain...
Dec 19 12:38:36 <mircea_popescu>	waaah, bitcoin should be taken seriously as currency...
Dec 19 12:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	waaah, mpex is charging a fee for signup as if it was a real business but I want to slop 0.05 btc back and forth on options and 30 btc to open account is ridicuous....
Dec 19 12:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	ok, that guy made my day. how do you tip people on reddit ?
Dec 19 12:40:46 <jurov>	http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcointip/comments/13iykn/bitcointip_documentation/
Dec 19 12:41:18 *	jurov is waiting for eskimobob enragement over the mpoe announcement
Dec 19 12:41:19 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Dec 19 12:41:22 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what reddit post are you talking about?
Dec 19 12:41:38 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob is a scammer.
Dec 19 12:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14zxqr/mpex_over_1_million_btc_total_market_cap/c7iz9rw
Dec 19 12:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	jesus this bitcoinstuff is ocmplex. anyone with the tipping set up want to send one for me ?
Dec 19 12:45:40 <pigeons>	i just learned EskimoBob doesn't have tourrette's ;)
Dec 19 12:47:15 <mircea_popescu>	jurov what now ?!
Dec 19 12:47:44 <jurov>	about eskimo or?
Dec 19 12:48:14 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: that was a funny comment
Dec 19 12:48:30 <thestringpuller>	but srsly why you use so much php?
Dec 19 12:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	about eskimo ya
Dec 19 12:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller how much php do i use ?
Dec 19 12:49:03 <thestringpuller>	on the mpex site
Dec 19 12:49:10 <thestringpuller>	its good php but still php
Dec 19 12:49:13 <thestringpuller>	...
Dec 19 12:49:24 *	thestringpuller dislikes php these days
Dec 19 12:49:33 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you forgot the 'waaah, mpex regularly makes people hundreds of btc, but I think derivitives are evil for no good reason and I didn't take the time to understand that bond thingy, so i'm jelly'
Dec 19 12:49:46 <smickles>	oh yeah
Dec 19 12:49:50 <pigeons>	occumpy mpex!
Dec 19 12:49:51 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i was just quoting. i could make that list five meters long
Dec 19 12:49:52 <smickles>	s/hundreds/thousands/
Dec 19 12:49:53 <pigeons>	*occupy
Dec 19 12:50:14 <thestringpuller>	occupy mpex
Dec 19 12:50:21 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is the one percent
Dec 19 12:50:21 <smickles>	OCCUPY MPEx!
Dec 19 12:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller it makes pretty decent web stuff afaik. what can i tell ya.
Dec 19 12:50:38 <mircea_popescu>	noway. it says clearly on the return slips, i am the 94%
Dec 19 12:50:41 <thestringpuller>	we demand you equally distribute your wealth
Dec 19 12:50:42 <smickles>	thestringpuller: damn man it's worse than one percent, mircea_popescu is the 5%!
Dec 19 12:51:01 <thestringpuller>	because we are entitled
Dec 19 12:51:08 <thestringpuller>	for doing absolutely nothing
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Dec 19 12:51:29 <smickles>	ok, wait a sec
Dec 19 12:52:05 <smickles>	y(1=.2)**x
Dec 19 12:52:18 <smickles>	hmm, I retract my occupy statment
Dec 19 12:52:21 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 19 12:52:33 <smickles>	at this rate, i'll soon be in opposition :P
Dec 19 12:52:56 <smickles>	er, nix that =, replace with a +
Dec 19 12:53:03 <smickles>	shift key malfunction
Dec 19 12:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	so basically that idiot ver just sunk blockchain.info ?
Dec 19 12:53:13 <mircea_popescu>	what the fucking hell is this.
Dec 19 12:53:22 <smickles>	huh?
Dec 19 12:53:25 <smickles>	how?
Dec 19 12:53:34 <pigeons>	he calls himself "bitcoin jesus". seriously.
Dec 19 12:53:42 <jurov>	nothing about eskimo. just that he despises IPOs with tiered pricing that enable trading, cause what if the first investors resell, blabla... he's funny
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Dec 19 12:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131608
Dec 19 12:54:43 <jcpham>	nootropics!
Dec 19 12:54:50 *	jcpham wastes money on mind drugs
Dec 19 12:54:51 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yeah well, he thinks he knows stuff.
Dec 19 12:54:53 <pigeons>	its been edited a bit by now
Dec 19 12:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i find that the most objectionable of all.
Dec 19 12:55:02 <smickles>	wait,
Dec 19 12:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	tbh ver goes on my personal shitlist after this.
Dec 19 12:55:17 <smickles>	i can be part of this occupy mpex for 29.06 more months
Dec 19 12:55:22 <mircea_popescu>	not only is he dishonest, but he wants to lie about it.
Dec 19 12:55:22 <smickles>	:D
Dec 19 12:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	is he even in the wot ?
Dec 19 12:55:48 <pigeons>	my biggest problem is that he freaked out over 4 btc
Dec 19 12:56:19 <pigeons>	then its not so cool that he abused his pull with a seperate company to check on the dude's address
Dec 19 12:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	i don't care that he freaked out.
Dec 19 12:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	he can freak out till he's blue in the face.
Dec 19 12:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	he's getting hanged for this one.
Dec 19 12:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	and i'm not terribly enchanted with piuk either, he won't list it but he sells stakes to random asshats ?
Dec 19 12:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	pfff.
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Dec 19 13:03:53 <EskimoBob>	LOL. jurov, you are still going on about IPO stuff? Did I hurt your feelings some how?
Dec 19 13:04:17 <jurov>	no, exactly opposite. i found it hilarious
Dec 19 13:04:19 <Diablo-D3>	wait, whats going on now?
Dec 19 13:04:45 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: are you going to add this to the drama timeline?
Dec 19 13:04:45 <EskimoBob>	if you have questions, pleas ask but don't be a dick about it, acting all insulted and what not
Dec 19 13:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller don't really intend to update it, maybe make another dec 2013
Dec 19 13:05:13 <EskimoBob>	jurov: laughing is good. Helps you get over your problems
Dec 19 13:05:18 <thestringpuller>	we should make an analytic
Dec 19 13:05:20 <jurov>	eskimobob, i wrote my pionts/questions to btctalk
Dec 19 13:05:31 <EskimoBob>	where?
Dec 19 13:05:31 <thestringpuller>	about drama per btc per business
Dec 19 13:05:54 <thestringpuller>	we should call this unit the shapoopi
Dec 19 13:05:54 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg1409299#msg1409299
Dec 19 13:06:57 <jurov>	and deprived said similar stuff right after that
Dec 19 13:07:02 <EskimoBob>	jurov: you are right, it is funny
Dec 19 13:07:42 <mircea_popescu>	so basically what's this, failed issuer manages to not sell anything and wants market controls to prop his dubious venture ?
Dec 19 13:07:49 <mircea_popescu>	color me nuances of suprised.
Dec 19 13:08:30 <EskimoBob>	lol
Dec 19 13:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131648.0
Dec 19 13:09:52 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: have you ever actually bought a single share of stock in a real ipo in real world?
Dec 19 13:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Dec 19 13:10:21 *	Diablo-D3 listens to the seatbelts - too good too bad
Dec 19 13:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	iirc i published account screenshots showing decent holdings a while back. did you ?
Dec 19 13:10:45 <EskimoBob>	So how come you are so clueless?
Dec 19 13:10:53 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: to be brutally fail
Dec 19 13:10:57 <Diablo-D3>	you've said some questionable shit too
Dec 19 13:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob you know, most idiots in btc harp about how clueless i am.
Dec 19 13:11:32 <EskimoBob>	i do not harp abouted
Dec 19 13:11:38 <Diablo-D3>	ENGLISH PLOX
Dec 19 13:11:46 <thestringpuller>	omg so much drama
Dec 19 13:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	but nice that you avoid the question
Dec 19 13:11:52 <thestringpuller>	what the fuck
Dec 19 13:11:53 <EskimoBob>	I do not have to. You do it yourself every fkn day, mp
Dec 19 13:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	i've shown 100 of k's invested. have you ?
Dec 19 13:11:59 <Diablo-D3>	FULL POWER TO THE POPCORN ENGINES
Dec 19 13:12:14 <jcpham>	dmc mines exclusively on nvidia gpu's
Dec 19 13:12:27 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: nope, Im using a giant POWER cluster now
Dec 19 13:12:33 <smickles>	thestringpuller: Bitcoin's value is backed by drama
Dec 19 13:12:43 <thestringpuller>	so is high school
Dec 19 13:12:44 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: huh.
Dec 19 13:12:44 <jcpham>	old jokes never get old
Dec 19 13:12:53 <EskimoBob>	lol
Dec 19 13:12:56 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: you know, I think you might actually be right
Dec 19 13:13:00 <smickles>	little did you know, Bitcoin was actually an invention of the entertainment industry
Dec 19 13:13:20 <Diablo-D3>	everytime Ive seen the price spike, theres been heavy drama in the forums
Dec 19 13:13:21 <kakobrekla>	they couldnt sell dvds no more, so they made bitcoin
Dec 19 13:13:31 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: what is it now?
Dec 19 13:13:36 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Dec 19 13:13:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.25807, Best ask: 13.33999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08192, Last trade: 13.25807, 24 hour volume: 26701.70585636, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.29278
Dec 19 13:13:43 <Diablo-D3>	hey it works now!
Dec 19 13:13:56 <EskimoBob>	and what happened to pirate hunt?
Dec 19 13:15:11 <kakobrekla>	he paid
Dec 19 13:15:16 <jcpham>	hurrrr
Dec 19 13:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 19 13:15:42 <EskimoBob>	sure
Dec 19 13:15:47 <EskimoBob>	to himself
Dec 19 13:18:44 <smickles>	gwaa, the AZ copr. comiss. should hurry up already
Dec 19 13:19:04 <smickles>	it'll be 5 weeks tomorrow
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Dec 19 13:20:42 <dub>	wat, EskimoBob is paying dividends on his art mining with no art mining equipment backing it
Dec 19 13:20:45 <dub>	scam
Dec 19 13:22:16 <dub>	its a weed and lentils ponzi
Dec 19 13:26:46 *	jcpham fonzischemes
Dec 19 13:28:08 <Ukto>	your ponzischeming?
Dec 19 13:28:19 <jcpham>	nah
Dec 19 13:28:24 <jcpham>	fonzi scheming
Dec 19 13:28:28 <jcpham>	http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/25585/is-my-developers-home-brew-password-security-right-or-wrong-and-why
Dec 19 13:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	dub lol you are just clueless.
Dec 19 13:30:13 <PeterL>	dub: You bring up a valid question, how is EskimoBob paying dividends if he is not making any profit yet?
Dec 19 13:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	PeterL because he bought one single share in a single irl ipo once.
Dec 19 13:32:54 <smickles>	-_- hmm, PeterL, hmm
Dec 19 13:33:46 <smickles>	will you not say 'valid question' validity is a property of arguments, not questions
Dec 19 13:34:20 <pigeons>	irrelephant
Dec 19 13:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	validity is a property of questions as well, as it's a property of statements in general
Dec 19 13:35:51 <jcpham>	i want to get drunk
Dec 19 13:35:59 <jcpham>	it's 35 minutes past noon
Dec 19 13:36:24 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: statements can contribute to validity if they are part of a valid argument :P
Dec 19 13:37:41 <smickles>	inb4 someone makes a scope argument
Dec 19 13:37:45 <mircea_popescu>	is $p[$q] =; 1: valid in php ?
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Dec 19 13:38:01 <smickles>	lol, by mere seconds
Dec 19 13:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Dec 19 13:38:38 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, we're clearly disagreeing on founding principles :D
Dec 19 13:39:19 <PeterL>	they say the only bad questions are the ones you don't ask, so if he asked a question it must be valid, right?
Dec 19 13:39:21 <smickles>	;;tslb
Dec 19 13:39:25 <gribble>	Time since last block: 4 minutes and 13 seconds
Dec 19 13:39:59 <smickles>	:| the miners hate me
Dec 19 13:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	PeterL don't take things too bad, people rib each other lots here.
Dec 19 13:40:41 <PeterL>	no, I was agreeing with you, I think
Dec 19 13:40:58 <smickles>	heh, yea, in fact, you could put me down by the fact that I was ribbing you with a flu flu philo position
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Dec 19 13:42:02 <smickles>	;;calc log(1)
Dec 19 13:42:03 <gribble>	0
Dec 19 13:42:06 <smickles>	;;calc log(2)
Dec 19 13:42:06 <gribble>	0.69314718056
Dec 19 13:42:09 <pigeons>	wait we don't really hate each other?
Dec 19 13:42:31 <mircea_popescu>	you and who ?
Dec 19 13:42:32 <smickles>	sit and spin pigeons
Dec 19 13:42:40 <pigeons>	better
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Dec 19 13:43:03 <smickles>	pigeons: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MPPzGbeDG-k/SqoP7Qriq7I/AAAAAAAAAoM/kaYVICDiIBw/s400/Sit'nSpin.jpg
Dec 19 13:43:06 <smickles>	all day
Dec 19 13:43:33 <pigeons>	i had one
Dec 19 13:43:38 <pigeons>	i liked to get dizzy
Dec 19 13:43:48 <smickles>	you know that's a sign of autism now?
Dec 19 13:43:52 <smickles>	dsm5
Dec 19 13:43:57 <Ukto>	my kids have one
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Dec 19 13:44:34 <dub>	mircea_popescu, apparently running a mining bond without hardware to back it up is a scam, according to such experts as EskimoBob
Dec 19 13:45:10 <PeterL>	isn't a mining bond without mining equipment a scam?
Dec 19 13:45:13 <pigeons>	that's interesting, i thought it was just a natural manifestataion of the desire living things have to get high
Dec 19 13:45:32 <dub>	PeterL: if you say so
Dec 19 13:45:35 <Ukto>	hmm
Dec 19 13:45:40 <Ukto>	I got a diff sit and spin when searching
Dec 19 13:45:42 <Ukto>	http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2009/8/14/128947892570309773.jpg
Dec 19 13:45:50 <PeterL>	otherwise it would just be a ponzi?
Dec 19 13:46:25 <Ukto>	smickles: just for you http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/1004/sit-n-spin-toc-memories-forum-tribute-demotivational-poster-1270962207.jpg
Dec 19 13:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	PeterL i guess it would depend on what info is used to establish payouts. but in any case it would heavily depend on the issuer's credit.
Dec 19 13:50:11 <dub>	the infos to hand is that payouts are established from the pocket of EskimoBob
Dec 19 13:50:59 <pigeons>	honest question. is there a difference between from his pocket vs. from stock sales?
Dec 19 13:52:26 <dub>	another pertinent question would be where are teh lentils, weed, deodorising crystals for the hairy women etc getting funded from
Dec 19 13:53:42 <dub>	hippies don't grow on trees
Dec 19 13:54:51 <pigeons>	they do around here
Dec 19 13:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	hippies grow on moss
Dec 19 13:57:56 <pigeons>	how do you know a hippie has been staying at your house?
Dec 19 13:58:08 <PeterL>	But if one is selling a "mining bond" without doing any ming, it would at least be dishones charaterization of what they are selling?
Dec 19 13:58:10 <pigeons>	he's still there
Dec 19 13:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol pigeons
Dec 19 13:58:36 <pigeons>	PeterL: some people were selling the btc output of x mhash
Dec 19 13:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	PeterL well it could be a synthetic short deal, which'd be fine. "i'll pay youy whatever mining pays you defined as X Y Z"
Dec 19 13:58:45 <EskimoBob>	girls, read the forum post
Dec 19 13:59:14 <PeterL>	yeah, I guess it depends on how exactly the agreement is worded
Dec 19 13:59:31 <dub>	PeterL: there were a number of 1mh/s bonds issued on glbse that were not backed (at least not fully) by actual hardware, the wording was that the bondholder would recieve btc equal to the output of 1mh/s
Dec 19 13:59:33 <EskimoBob>	PeterL: don't guess, read :)
Dec 19 13:59:44 <smickles>	Ukto: lol
Dec 19 14:00:08 <PeterL>	EskimoBob: are you using the term "girls" disparagingly? Seems kinda rude to 50% of the population?
Dec 19 14:00:38 <EskimoBob>	in this channel?
Dec 19 14:00:47 <EskimoBob>	population?
Dec 19 14:01:20 <pigeons>	why do so many hippies move to Oregon?
Dec 19 14:01:30 <pigeons>	they heard there was no work there
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Dec 19 14:02:04 <PeterL>	dub: The issue goes down to wether the investor is trying to just make money or increase the security of the network?
Dec 19 14:02:56 <dub>	PeterL: uh if the contract says you get the equiv of 1mh/s who cares how
Dec 19 14:02:57 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: and the weather is not too good over there
Dec 19 14:03:07 <dub>	PeterL: I'll asnwer that question for you, EskimoBob cared
Dec 19 14:03:10 <pigeons>	What kind of cigarettes do hippies smoke?
Dec 19 14:03:20 <pigeons>	yours
Dec 19 14:03:31 <dub>	which is why its funny that he is doing the same thing
Dec 19 14:04:10 <EskimoBob>	dub: how am I exactly "doing the same thing"
Dec 19 14:04:14 <PeterL>	pigeons: lol
Dec 19 14:04:26 <EskimoBob>	please enlighten me, dub
Dec 19 14:04:52 <PeterL>	EskimoBob: you are paying weekly dividends, yes?
Dec 19 14:06:38 <dub>	I wouldnt bother trying to actually explain it to him
Dec 19 14:06:55 <PeterL>	just checking to see if I have the correct facts ...
Dec 19 14:09:45 <dub>	I have to pay those form my own pocket for now. Obviously I can not nor do I plan to do this forever. Smiley
Dec 19 14:09:48 <dub>	This is why getting the coin together and ordering the equipment is really important. But hey, this is only the first week.
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Dec 19 14:11:49 <dub>	first week of the ponzi is always the hardest
Dec 19 14:15:49 <jcpham>	i'd like to hear more of the story of clipse myself
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Dec 19 14:16:02 <jcpham>	obviously he was gambling an entire pool's worth of coins
Dec 19 14:16:32 <PeterL>	who is clipse?
Dec 19 14:16:40 <EskimoBob>	it's probably good idea to post your questions to forum so I can answer them
Dec 19 14:16:53 <jcpham>	clipse is awol
Dec 19 14:17:05 <jcpham>	he ran a pool that paid higher than normal PPS
Dec 19 14:17:22 <jcpham>	he became more and more active on irc. until the end.
Dec 19 14:17:28 <PeterL>	sounds fishy
Dec 19 14:17:34 <jcpham>	now he is gone
Dec 19 14:18:00 <pigeons>	he said he paid more cause hopping. then theh money ended up with pirate. then he was gone
Dec 19 14:18:15 <jcpham>	i think he paid more because he had it at btcst
Dec 19 14:18:22 <jcpham>	and that's the only reason he paid more
Dec 19 14:18:26 <jcpham>	because he could afford to
Dec 19 14:18:32 <PeterL>	oh pirate keeps coming back to bite everybody
Dec 19 14:19:02 <jcpham>	clipse talked a lot of shit about selling virgin wallet.dat's with solo mined coins
Dec 19 14:19:10 <jcpham>	for south african
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Dec 19 14:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	how old was he incidentally ?
Dec 19 14:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	i always suspected late teens
Dec 19 14:24:53 <jcpham>	i sortof agree
Dec 19 14:24:57 <jcpham>	no clue though
Dec 19 14:25:45 <pigeons>	he had a pony avatar, so i'm guessing youngun
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Dec 19 14:37:06 <iz>	i think clipse lost a lot of money w/ the pirate thing
Dec 19 14:37:27 <iz>	or he was just a very angry opinionated guy
Dec 19 14:37:33 <iz>	or maybe both
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Dec 19 14:48:06 <dub>	someone doxxed clipse its in the forum somwhere
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Dec 19 14:49:26 <dub>	Neill Roelofse, 27 and he lives in Cape Town, Bellville.
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Dec 19 14:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	o that old
Dec 19 14:52:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061874 = 2.6736 BTC [+]
Dec 19 14:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4379 @ 0.000619 = 2.7106 BTC [+]
Dec 19 14:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	ok, X.IDIFF.DEC have just settled.
Dec 19 14:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	everyone please chekc make sure it went ok.
Dec 19 15:00:51 <dub>	telnet pe16
Dec 19 15:01:08 <dub>	shit
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Dec 19 15:05:11 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: did james sent out the new list? (in few last days)
Dec 19 15:07:30 <Ukto>	yes
Dec 19 15:07:32 <Ukto>	this morning/last night
Dec 19 15:07:36 <Ukto>	he completed alot of peoples lists
Dec 19 15:07:45 <Ukto>	sounds like they were non-glbse-claims even
Dec 19 15:07:57 <Ukto>	no btc addy was supplied for the person I talked to
Dec 19 15:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	what's that non glbse claims ?
Dec 19 15:08:05 <Ukto>	ppl who didnt claim
Dec 19 15:08:41 <Ukto>	two ppl have told me the new list, NOT yaml file, buy csv this time
Dec 19 15:08:49 <Ukto>	no btc addys, just email and share count
Dec 19 15:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Dec 19 15:09:41 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: OK, thanx. This is good news
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Dec 19 15:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	a looky there.
Dec 19 15:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies, i got a btc with your name on it, what addy do you want it at ?
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Dec 19 15:11:06 <pigeons>	dub uses telnet
Dec 19 15:11:27 <jcpham>	i use telnet-tunnel for secure
Dec 19 15:12:12 <pigeons>	i'm just picking
Dec 19 15:12:23 <EskimoBob>	telnet? brr... do people still use that stuff?
Dec 19 15:12:31 <pigeons>	he just wanted to see some routes
Dec 19 15:12:39 <EskimoBob>	why not ssh?
Dec 19 15:12:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061537 = 2.659 BTC [-]
Dec 19 15:12:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8979 @ 0.0006151 = 5.523 BTC [-]
Dec 19 15:13:06 <dub>	theres plenty of stuff that only supports telnet
Dec 19 15:13:18 <EskimoBob>	probably so
Dec 19 15:13:27 <dub>	its not like its over the internet
Dec 19 15:14:12 <EskimoBob>	rrr... this cifs-utils samba drama
Dec 19 15:14:14 *	Ukto shh
Dec 19 15:14:19 *	Ukto shh's EskimoBob
Dec 19 15:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	dub and most of it has to do with cobol
Dec 19 15:14:26 <Namjies>	Eh fuck. ASICMINER has not resumed trading yet eh...
Dec 19 15:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	seems not.
Dec 19 15:14:38 <EskimoBob>	I'll sssshhh you back
Dec 19 15:20:24 *	jcpham telnets
Dec 19 15:21:04 <Namjies>	Well send there please 1PRsPqFgWjdbbDywFXvVTvp2hUUbDnMzKX
Dec 19 15:21:24 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: see pm
Dec 19 15:21:44 *	Ukto is more than happy to help asicminer trade again
Dec 19 15:21:45 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 19 15:21:46 <dub>	send what? some stolen bitcoinica coins? one sec
Dec 19 15:21:57 <Ukto>	dub: you admits it!
Dec 19 15:22:05 <Ukto>	Give it back! my preciousssss.....
Dec 19 15:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	dub i was owing him a bitcoin
Dec 19 15:22:55 <Namjies>	For about 1000 ASICMINER he wanted to short.
Dec 19 15:23:05 <Namjies>	But since it's not trading anymore...
Dec 19 15:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	thought it was 1300 or something
Dec 19 15:23:50 <Namjies>	That might be it. I kind of let those go after GLBSE closed and forgot the number since then eh
Dec 19 15:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	pity glbse closed. i was making nice dough shorting bullcrap
Dec 19 15:24:24 <dub>	I had a few of those, whats happening with them?
Dec 19 15:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	oh where art thou obsi
Dec 19 15:25:00 <dub>	was kinda hoping they would win the asic race and I could sell them for 10btc each
Dec 19 15:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	dub nobody wins the asic race.
Dec 19 15:26:06 <Namjies>	By the way, does that look better than last one? http://www.namworld.net/portfolio/bitvps.com/vps
Dec 19 15:26:23 <mircea_popescu>	o btw, did you ever release that statement ?
Dec 19 15:26:28 <mircea_popescu>	or rg was or what ?
Dec 19 15:26:34 <Namjies>	People apparently didn't like the 3d effect so I removed it.
Dec 19 15:26:44 <Namjies>	rg did release a statement, I believe
Dec 19 15:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	link ?
Dec 19 15:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	and not bad on the gfx.
Dec 19 15:28:49 <EskimoBob>	looks good now
Dec 19 15:28:58 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 19 15:28:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.47493, Best ask: 13.50799, Bid-ask spread: 0.03306, Last trade: 13.47493, 24 hour volume: 34702.98997692, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.33504
Dec 19 15:29:28 <Namjies>	Aye. I guess I'm not good enough yet at 3d effects
Dec 19 15:29:54 <Namjies>	Plus arij/phungus seems to like more simple designs.
Dec 19 15:30:02 <Namjies>	We might still go with v2
Dec 19 15:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	in case anyone missed it earlier, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/smpoe-owner-shares-block/
Dec 19 15:30:29 <Namjies>	Instead, but I'm trying to make something more potent if possible. And actually unique and custom.
Dec 19 15:31:08 <Namjies>	I don't get 5 credits per week.
Dec 19 15:31:39 <mircea_popescu>	usure ?
Dec 19 15:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	(the way it works tho, is you have 5 slots, and they expire in 7 days. so if you use all the same day you get 5 more in 7 days)
Dec 19 15:32:03 <Namjies>	Yes, I've been like 2 months without any credit every time I go on the blog
Dec 19 15:32:08 <mircea_popescu>	ugh
Dec 19 15:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	pm your ip
Dec 19 15:33:09 <Lyspooner>	will you take Euros?
Dec 19 15:33:10 <jurov>	Namjies, do you have admin console for switzerland, or just jerking over the site design so far?
Dec 19 15:34:17 <jurov>	could not get enough time from james to upgrade the kernel, or fix ipv6 address
Dec 19 15:34:30 <kakobrekla>	members of rota should get free credits.
Dec 19 15:35:13 <jurov>	hush, kakobrekla. i shall submit the FSA stuff on venetfx to rota. just for lulz.
Dec 19 15:35:21 <jcpham>	yes, how is the rota coming along
Dec 19 15:35:37 <Namjies>	ask phungus/arij, I don't have access to servers yet.
Dec 19 15:35:52 <Namjies>	I'll be doing design/tickets/management tasks.
Dec 19 15:36:02 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner only btc
Dec 19 15:36:14 *	Ukto gives Namjies some phungus
Dec 19 15:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-first-roll-of-judges-december-2012/
Dec 19 15:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	now we need litigants.
Dec 19 15:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	ppl pls to sue kthx
Dec 19 15:36:42 <Lyspooner>	any plans to list single-stock futures?  imagine MPEX listing an option on MPEX that expires into MPEX shares
Dec 19 15:36:55 <kakobrekla>	jurov, go ahead, MP will just short it (the fsa)
Dec 19 15:36:57 <jcpham>	yay!
Dec 19 15:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner no because http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/#comment-91034
Dec 19 15:37:49 <jurov>	kakobrekla, maybe rota will order FSA to register you promptly
Dec 19 15:38:08 <jcpham>	i'd like to say thanks and that these judges look impartial to me
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Dec 19 15:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham clean slate so far, so ya they do
Dec 19 15:40:34 <jurov>	or, on second thought, rota will ask fsa to UNregister you. so that you will stay completely outside of law as is proper in btcland.
Dec 19 15:40:57 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think fsa is advanced enough to have a pgp sign
Dec 19 15:43:16 <kakobrekla>	fsa has got nothing to do with bitcoin clients in the first place, it is as irrelevant as MNW's signature
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Dec 19 15:43:44 <kakobrekla>	brb
Dec 19 15:44:11 <pigeons>	aw no cosby
Dec 19 15:44:45 <pigeons>	speaking of MNW's signature, remember, only you back bitcoins
Dec 19 15:44:46 <jurov>	Namjies, are these  phungus/arij in irc somewhere?
Dec 19 15:44:56 <jurov>	bitvps client area cert just expired
Dec 19 15:45:04 <pigeons>	jurov: #bitvps #bitcoin-otc
Dec 19 15:45:58 <Namjies>	indeed, #bitvps channel would be where to find us.
Dec 19 15:46:35 <jurov>	done
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Dec 19 15:59:33 <dub>	mircea_popescu: the judges sit for a year at a time?
Dec 19 15:59:55 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Dec 19 16:00:15 <dub>	"disqualified for lack of proper form" heh
Dec 19 16:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Dec 19 16:00:47 <dub>	sounds like, did not show adequate commitment
Dec 19 16:01:11 <jcpham>	i misspelled adjudicator in mine
Dec 19 16:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	something likw that.
Dec 19 16:01:21 <jcpham>	i can only imagine how bad the denied application was
Dec 19 16:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	dude wants to judge must pgp
Dec 19 16:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham its in the thread
Dec 19 16:01:34 <dub>	in the team america sense of showing commitment
Dec 19 16:01:38 <jcpham>	ooooh
Dec 19 16:01:52 <jcpham>	i'm actually excited
Dec 19 16:01:59 <jcpham>	i hope no one ever has a dispute
Dec 19 16:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 19 16:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	easiest 30 btc ever
Dec 19 16:02:22 <dub>	yeah, seems like a shitty job to me tbh
Dec 19 16:02:29 <jcpham>	it could turn ugly
Dec 19 16:02:34 <jcpham>	who knows
Dec 19 16:02:41 <dub>	but all power to those willing to do it
Dec 19 16:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	someone's gotta do it./
Dec 19 16:02:59 <jcpham>	i think the judges are more than reputable
Dec 19 16:03:10 <jcpham>	excluding me of course
Dec 19 16:03:34 <dub>	of course, you're just a cunt
Dec 19 16:03:43 *	jcpham takes a bow
Dec 19 16:03:52 *	jcpham curtsies
Dec 19 16:04:14 <dub>	speaking of cunt, someone I work with drove into the carpark behind me today
Dec 19 16:04:19 *	mircea_popescu interjects a cunt 
Dec 19 16:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135594840469.jpg
Dec 19 16:04:22 <dub>	in a gt86
Dec 19 16:04:59 <dub>	i am a whole buttload of raspberry jelly
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Dec 19 16:05:48 <jcpham>	is that the frs?
Dec 19 16:06:08 <dub>	yeah
Dec 19 16:06:17 <jcpham>	i lurv
Dec 19 16:06:22 <jcpham>	i have the 1996 version
Dec 19 16:07:10 <mircea_popescu>	o so pirate paid ?
Dec 19 16:07:19 <dub>	yarly
Dec 19 16:07:32 <jcpham>	not that i'm aware of
Dec 19 16:07:48 <Ukto>	feel free to pay me. :P
Dec 19 16:07:54 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham but you got car :D
Dec 19 16:07:54 <jcpham>	did i just get made fun of
Dec 19 16:07:56 <dub>	wat is 1996 ver?
Dec 19 16:08:06 <dub>	oh supra?
Dec 19 16:08:07 <jcpham>	my supra predates pirate
Dec 19 16:08:13 <Ukto>	Undecided. Please check back later. :P
Dec 19 16:08:15 <jcpham>	by about 6 years
Dec 19 16:08:24 <dub>	supra != 86 tyvm
Dec 19 16:08:34 <jcpham>	bleh
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Dec 19 16:08:48 <jcpham>	it's as close as anybody will ever get
Dec 19 16:08:52 <jcpham>	coming from toyota
Dec 19 16:08:53 *	Ukto only had a 94 3rd gen rx7 :/
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Dec 19 16:09:23 <jcpham>	i've only sat in one fr-s
Dec 19 16:12:39 <dub>	im waiting for the RC model to drop next year
Dec 19 16:12:53 <dub>	then I'll beg mrs dub to let me have one
Dec 19 16:13:19 <mircea_popescu>	what happened to telling her to go earn you one
Dec 19 16:14:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 64558 @ 0.0036 = 232.4088 BTC [+]
Dec 19 16:14:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00364467 = 6.0137 BTC [+]
Dec 19 16:14:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8927 @ 0.003699 = 33.021 BTC [+]
Dec 19 16:14:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 174865 @ 0.0036995 = 646.9131 BTC [+]
Dec 19 16:14:44 <dub>	possibly swap the engine from my corolla into it
Dec 19 16:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	In India, for legal works, which has to be done by timely & correctly, we need to bribe 1000+ INR.
Dec 19 16:14:46 <mircea_popescu>	For illegal or other works, then maybe up to 10 times or more.
Dec 19 16:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	cute.
Dec 19 16:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250000 @ 0.0036995 = 924.875 BTC [+]
Dec 19 16:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 19 16:15:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368019 / 0.0036995 (536763 shares, 1,975.39 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343144 / 0.0037 (7135181 shares, 24,483.96 BTC)
Dec 19 16:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	le yum.
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Dec 19 16:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 25000 @ 0.0036995 = 92.4875 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 16:30:54 <midnightmagic>	jcpham: Oh awesome.. are you the guy who was telling off that guy with the camera in your face, and then who clipped buddy with your car?
Dec 19 16:32:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgYtgXUb2kE
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Dec 19 16:38:34 <dub>	midnightmagic: sounds like a video of coingenuity that was floating around
Dec 19 16:39:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 115000 @ 0.0036995 = 425.4425 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 16:43:38 <midnightmagic>	Whoever the poor guy is, he's sitting outside and he keeps repeating, "Fuck OFF jason, fuck OFF jason, jason FUCK OFF." Except I'm not sure "jason" is the right name I'm quoting.
Dec 19 16:44:17 <EskimoBob>	intersango closed the GBP trading down for good
Dec 19 16:44:46 <EskimoBob>	I guess if you can not send out GBP to bank accounts, it is pointless
Dec 19 16:45:21 <EskimoBob>	LOL, the comment following: Great, now close the rest of the site.
Dec 19 16:45:31 <jcpham>	that's not me midnightmagic
Dec 19 16:45:45 <jcpham>	or i don't think it is
Dec 19 16:46:09 <jcpham>	i want to see this video
Dec 19 16:46:16 <EskimoBob>	now all they need to do is rename it to "3 stooges" and be done with it
Dec 19 16:46:36 <davout_>	phantomcircuit said that people would be able to cash out with international wires with not-yet-known fees
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Dec 19 16:47:36 <EskimoBob>	davout: did you see the SEPA transfer fee? it's 10 EUR! LOL, it actually cost only 0.36€
Dec 19 16:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	davout are they launching a real estate project ?
Dec 19 16:49:27 <EskimoBob>	wow! ART 42915@1.0  :)
Dec 19 16:49:29 <davout>	EskimoBob: SEPA transfer fees vary depending on the bank
Dec 19 16:49:45 <EskimoBob>	this is it, we are mowing forward
Dec 19 16:49:54 <davout>	EskimoBob: when bitcoin-central was still dealing with the fuckers at the Rietumu bank it was a whopping 15€
Dec 19 16:50:06 <davout>	anyway, it all sounds fucked up
Dec 19 16:51:43 <EskimoBob>	so, we have 6026 shares of ART left for now
Dec 19 16:52:10 <EskimoBob>	this is just awesome!
Dec 19 17:01:13 <EskimoBob>	what, you guys are not happy for me? :)
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Dec 19 17:04:36 <Anduck>	hi
Dec 19 17:04:40 <Anduck>	any s.dice sellers
Dec 19 17:04:41 <Anduck>	=
Dec 19 17:04:42 <Anduck>	brokers
Dec 19 17:04:43 <Anduck>	=
Dec 19 17:04:44 <Anduck>	???
Dec 19 17:04:56 <Anduck>	Azelphur=
Dec 19 17:04:56 <Anduck>	?
Dec 19 17:05:02 <Anduck>	=->?*
Dec 19 17:05:02 <Azelphur>	Anduck=
Dec 19 17:05:09 <Anduck>	do you have mpex acc?
Dec 19 17:05:12 <Anduck>	i think u did
Dec 19 17:05:14 <Azelphur>	yea
Dec 19 17:05:15 <Anduck>	or i remember wrong
Dec 19 17:05:20 <Azelphur>	smickles: does brokerage iirc
Dec 19 17:05:21 <mod6>	jurov does brokerage
Dec 19 17:05:22 <Anduck>	do you wanna be ma broker for S.DICE?
Dec 19 17:05:27 <dub>	midnightmagic: thats coingenuity afaik
Dec 19 17:05:28 <Anduck>	yay
Dec 19 17:05:31 <Anduck>	what are their fees?
Dec 19 17:05:38 <Anduck>	and how much Azelphur takes as fee?
Dec 19 17:05:47 <Anduck>	cuz i would prefer Azelphur cuz he's here and i like him
Dec 19 17:05:53 <Azelphur>	I don't do brokerage, so try the others first
Dec 19 17:05:55 <Anduck>	:(
Dec 19 17:05:56 <Anduck>	ok
Dec 19 17:05:58 <Anduck>	smickles ?
Dec 19 17:06:00 <Anduck>	ya there?
Dec 19 17:06:02 <smickles>	yo
Dec 19 17:06:16 <Anduck>	how much ya take fee for s.dice brokerage?
Dec 19 17:06:37 <smickles>	min(3%,.5btc)
Dec 19 17:06:48 <Anduck>	pretty heavy fee
Dec 19 17:06:54 <dub>	Anduck: https://coinbr.com/ref?c=A3R7Tstq16
Dec 19 17:07:05 <smickles>	it seems to be the cheapest on the market
Dec 19 17:07:31 <smickles>	no fees other than that commission on buys/sells
Dec 19 17:07:47 <smickles>	and I give .1% apy on btc balances
Dec 19 17:07:51 <Anduck>	apy?
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Dec 19 17:07:55 <smickles>	interest
Dec 19 17:07:59 <Anduck>	hmmm
Dec 19 17:08:07 <Anduck>	smickles: are you trusted?
Dec 19 17:08:13 <Anduck>	i don't really remember - sorry
Dec 19 17:08:13 <smickles>	;;getrating smickles
Dec 19 17:08:14 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com . User smickles, rated since Wed Jan  4 18:28:52 2012. Cumulative rating 78, from 48 total ratings. Received ratings: 47 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 47 positive, 5 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=smickles
Dec 19 17:08:14 <jcpham>	barely
Dec 19 17:08:16 <smickles>	;;ident
Dec 19 17:08:16 <gribble>	You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
Dec 19 17:08:16 <Anduck>	yeah u are
Dec 19 17:08:32 <jcpham>	anduck don't let gribble fool you
Dec 19 17:08:41 <dub>	Azelphur: you should pop my rating cherry
Dec 19 17:08:45 <Anduck>	mm jcpham hmmmm
Dec 19 17:08:50 <Azelphur>	;;rated dub
Dec 19 17:08:51 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user dub
Dec 19 17:08:54 <Azelphur>	o.O
Dec 19 17:08:56 <smickles>	;;rated jcpham
Dec 19 17:08:57 <gribble>	You rated user jcpham on Thu Aug 16 09:11:10 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: None.
Dec 19 17:09:04 <jcpham>	;;rated smickles
Dec 19 17:09:05 <gribble>	You rated user smickles on Wed Aug 15 10:56:42 2012, giving him a rating of 5, and supplied these additional notes: Top notch community member..
Dec 19 17:09:16 <Azelphur>	;;rate dub 1 Asked me to pop his rating cherry
Dec 19 17:09:18 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.
Dec 19 17:09:38 <jcpham>	smickles if we've rated each other, does that mean we are in collusion?
Dec 19 17:09:41 <Azelphur>	dub: how do you not have a rating after all this time
Dec 19 17:09:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated dub
Dec 19 17:09:43 <Azelphur>	and running a pool
Dec 19 17:09:43 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user dub
Dec 19 17:09:43 <Azelphur>	lol
Dec 19 17:09:46 <jcpham>	i think i have ratings for pigeons also
Dec 19 17:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	omg poor dub
Dec 19 17:09:59 <dub>	;;rate Azelphur fulfilled mining contract for ~30BTC
Dec 19 17:09:59 <gribble>	Error: 'fulfilled' is not a valid integer.
Dec 19 17:10:04 <kakobrekla>	dub has a pool?
Dec 19 17:10:05 <dub>	;;rate Azelphur 1 fulfilled mining contract for ~30BTC
Dec 19 17:10:06 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Azelphur has been recorded.
Dec 19 17:10:06 <Azelphur>	xD
Dec 19 17:10:13 <dub>	Azelphur: I only regged yesterday
Dec 19 17:10:30 <Azelphur>	ah
Dec 19 17:10:33 <jcpham>	;;rate dub 1 wastes much time on irc
Dec 19 17:10:35 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 19 17:10:35 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.
Dec 19 17:10:52 <pigeons>	congrats EskimoBob
Dec 19 17:11:02 <pigeons>	i imagine you'll be hearing from the investor
Dec 19 17:11:17 <thestringpuller>	smickles: i want to put more money on account with you
Dec 19 17:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate dub 1 he's been around a while.
Dec 19 17:11:24 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.
Dec 19 17:11:45 <EskimoBob>	I guess so. Guy placed like 290+ BTC
Dec 19 17:12:23 <EskimoBob>	This is getting truly exiting
Dec 19 17:12:34 <smickles>	thestringpuller: pm me :)
Dec 19 17:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating dub
Dec 19 17:12:53 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask dub!dub@unaffiliated/dub . User dub, rated since Wed Dec 19 14:09:17 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=dub
Dec 19 17:13:00 <dub>	;;rate mircea_popescu 2 owns MPEX, hasnt stolen my BTC
Dec 19 17:13:01 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
Dec 19 17:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	omg
Dec 19 17:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	i think that makes me
Dec 19 17:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating mircea_popescu
Dec 19 17:13:16 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu . User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 100, from 46 total ratings. Received ratings: 45 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 56 positive, 7 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu
Dec 19 17:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	100!
Dec 19 17:13:25 <dub>	the first person not to steal my btc?
Dec 19 17:13:27 <dub>	oh
Dec 19 17:13:40 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating thestringpuller
Dec 19 17:13:41 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User thestringpuller, rated since Mon Oct 15 15:46:37 2012. Cumulative rating 5, from 4 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=thestringpuller
Dec 19 17:13:48 <thestringpuller>	5?
Dec 19 17:13:51 <dub>	;;getrating jurov
Dec 19 17:13:51 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User jurov, rated since Fri Jan 20 15:16:32 2012. Cumulative rating 14, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 9 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 6 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jurov
Dec 19 17:13:54 <thestringpuller>	howd that hapoen
Dec 19 17:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	i am now in that select club of three digiteers.
Dec 19 17:14:02 <dub>	;;ident jurov
Dec 19 17:14:03 <gribble>	Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@84.245.71.31', is not identified.
Dec 19 17:14:13 <dub>	jurov is our jurov?
Dec 19 17:14:22 <pigeons>	yes
Dec 19 17:14:29 <jurov>	need to do business?
Dec 19 17:14:48 <pigeons>	more fun to not auth and see what happens
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Dec 19 17:16:11 <pigeons>	now we watch EskimoBob crash the price of litecoin as he cashes out to buy his equipment
Dec 19 17:17:18 <jcpham>	if litecoin price crashes, does anyone really lose?
Dec 19 17:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	wait you can actually sell litecoin ?
Dec 19 17:17:41 <jcpham>	i keep hearing about it
Dec 19 17:17:46 <jcpham>	i think there is an exchange
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Dec 19 17:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	i must confess, of all drama sources for this wednesday the last thing i was expecting was r.ver going berserk.
Dec 19 17:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	btc drama has much in common with spanish inquisition.
Dec 19 17:21:07 <dub>	link?
Dec 19 17:21:54 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: :) I have to do this really carefully. No hurry or this will get ugly :)
Dec 19 17:22:11 <mircea_popescu>	dub you missed that ?!
Dec 19 17:22:28 <EskimoBob>	who is r.ver?
Dec 19 17:23:01 <gigavps>	roger ver
Dec 19 17:23:13 <gigavps>	or as he calls himself, "bitcoin jesus"
Dec 19 17:23:26 <EskimoBob>	ok
Dec 19 17:23:47 <jcpham>	bitcoin jesus like historical jesus
Dec 19 17:23:52 <jcpham>	or bitcoin jesus water into wine
Dec 19 17:24:16 <pigeons>	"I'm Roger Ver, the most prolific Bitcoin investor the world has ever seen"
Dec 19 17:24:24 <jcpham>	all of us are like historical jesus
Dec 19 17:24:34 <jcpham>	a regular guy
Dec 19 17:24:35 <gigavps>	well, after his spasm today, he's more like bitcoin idiot
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Dec 19 17:24:44 <EskimoBob>	link please
Dec 19 17:24:46 <jcpham>	i didn't get to see the spasm
Dec 19 17:24:50 <jcpham>	just heard about it
Dec 19 17:24:53 <Lyspooner>	link svp
Dec 19 17:24:54 <jcpham>	so link it
Dec 19 17:24:57 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131574.20
Dec 19 17:26:09 <jcpham>	so he actually used those words
Dec 19 17:26:30 <pigeons>	no he actually spelled most as "post"
Dec 19 17:26:47 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is it that in common: no one expects it?
Dec 19 17:26:51 <EskimoBob>	oh that's the vid card drama
Dec 19 17:27:11 <gigavps>	he's a little full of himself after that comment
Dec 19 17:27:17 <jcpham>	i mine at coinlab
Dec 19 17:27:24 <jcpham>	roger is payingme
Dec 19 17:27:26 <gigavps>	whether it's true or not
Dec 19 17:27:29 <jcpham>	and gigavps
Dec 19 17:27:32 <gigavps>	roger is paying me too
Dec 19 17:27:34 <gigavps>	:)
Dec 19 17:27:37 <gigavps>	25% moar
Dec 19 17:27:39 <jcpham>	gigavps are you taking roger's money?
Dec 19 17:27:40 <jcpham>	i am
Dec 19 17:28:11 <thestringpuller>	roger ver is the coinlab guy?
Dec 19 17:28:12 <gigavps>	coinlab is paying me 25% moar for the next three weeks
Dec 19 17:28:22 <jcpham>	i think i have like 6 left
Dec 19 17:28:26 <jurov>	oh i expected he loses it on this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131648.msg1409675
Dec 19 17:28:27 <gigavps>	he was part of the $500k round
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Dec 19 17:28:58 <jcpham>	that's crazy over 4btc
Dec 19 17:29:04 <jcpham>	lawyers and such
Dec 19 17:30:37 <pigeons>	so the big thing now is that blockchain.info had previously claimed that links from "anonymous" addresses were not logged
Dec 19 17:30:47 <pigeons>	yet there was an admin interface to look this up
Dec 19 17:32:06 <gigavps>	whoops
Dec 19 17:32:36 <jcpham>	oopsie, forgot to tell ya'll about that. we have to spport people
Dec 19 17:33:30 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128841.msg1409754#msg1409754
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Dec 19 17:40:31 <Bugpowder>	damn.  buyer didnt cut into the S.DICE Tier 3.
Dec 19 17:40:44 <Bugpowder>	Stop selling below .0037 people
Dec 19 17:40:58 <pigeons>	that always works
Dec 19 17:40:59 <Bugpowder>	just the the market buy through and we are gonna be at .005
Dec 19 17:41:09 <thestringpuller>	nooe
Dec 19 17:41:17 <thestringpuller>	sdice is gonna plummet
Dec 19 17:41:27 <Bugpowder>	when?
Dec 19 17:41:27 <thestringpuller>	and we'll short the shit out of it
Dec 19 17:41:32 <thestringpuller>	after divs
Dec 19 17:41:43 <Bugpowder>	after divs it will drop 4%
Dec 19 17:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	<gigavps> well, after his spasm today, he's more like bitcoin idiot << i think  btcppl don't get enoug hsleep.
Dec 19 17:42:01 <Bugpowder>	or whatever the div payout it
Dec 19 17:42:02 <Bugpowder>	is
Dec 19 17:42:36 <thestringpuller>	not if someone dumps inventory
Dec 19 17:42:48 <thestringpuller>	like a bunch of tier 1
Dec 19 17:42:58 <thestringpuller>	then it will plummet...
Dec 19 17:43:39 <Bugpowder>	In a liquid market, price will drop the value of the dividend payment.
Dec 19 17:43:55 <Bugpowder>	because the dividend is priced in
Dec 19 17:44:07 <jurov>	eveyone, remember these people. they are agents for smickles' shorting service
Dec 19 17:44:14 <Bugpowder>	some people will sell right before the divvy to maximize thier sale price
Dec 19 17:44:25 <Bugpowder>	some will be buying right after on the dip
Dec 19 17:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	dividends are like 2 weeks away still
Dec 19 17:44:31 <thestringpuller>	yes
Dec 19 17:44:34 <thestringpuller>	and its a bubble
Dec 19 17:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	it can end up + or - 10k
Dec 19 17:44:38 <Bugpowder>	someone will make more money than the other person
Dec 19 17:44:41 <thestringpuller>	it smells like bubble
Dec 19 17:44:46 <pigeons>	we'll see
Dec 19 17:44:53 <Bugpowder>	but in an efficient market, it will drop divvy value
Dec 19 17:45:04 <pigeons>	less bubblicious than mpoe
Dec 19 17:45:09 <Bugpowder>	everything hinges on if S.DICE can keep up the betting volume
Dec 19 17:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder it doesn't make so much sense to drop div value seeing how this is a btc sort of company. no assets.
Dec 19 17:45:35 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, i never saw a bubble consisting of price movement from 32 to 37.
Dec 19 17:45:48 <thestringpuller>	not yet
Dec 19 17:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	and yeah, mpoe went from ~2.9 to like 63
Dec 19 17:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	over 9 months
Dec 19 17:46:10 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu  I disagree, market prices in the value.
Dec 19 17:46:26 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE was slowing down until the whales showed up
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Dec 19 17:46:40 <Bugpowder>	but they are sporadic...
Dec 19 17:46:49 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Dec 19 17:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	ya i think it was trading more on momentum/inferred momentum than anything
Dec 19 17:47:33 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha digging through old posts,  2 Aprilie 2012 One website offering Bitcoin options trading was ‘listed’ this month for an implied valuation of half a million dollars. Sursa : Reuters.
Dec 19 17:48:16 <Bugpowder>	This whale still has 12,000 BTC in his betting address...   http://blockchain.info/address/1EP4rM8hLZCRSWPNZDWJp9zdvmoWYkkgbQ
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Dec 19 17:49:24 <jurov>	hmm...in fact i remember coinbr getting some funding from similat whale-ish addy
Dec 19 17:49:50 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Di6ux3CQBNXCZLD76BsnYWDo6XnFGzQah
Dec 19 17:49:53 <smickles>	< jurov> eveyone, remember these people. they are agents for smickles' shorting service << mwahahah
Dec 19 17:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	i find it boggling someone'd be betting 10-20-50k btc
Dec 19 17:50:44 <Bugpowder>	There is still a lot of time left before div payment and trading volume tends to increase prior to payment.
Dec 19 17:50:49 <jcpham>	yeah i had to close that blockahin link
Dec 19 17:50:51 <jcpham>	i got angry
Dec 19 17:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 19 17:51:07 <jcpham>	i hope that's a lucky bot
Dec 19 17:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	why, you bet it too.
Dec 19 17:51:11 <jcpham>	not a lucky human
Dec 19 17:51:21 <jcpham>	not like that
Dec 19 17:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Dec 19 17:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061898 = 2.6746 BTC [+]
Dec 19 17:51:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.000619 = 2.3392 BTC [+]
Dec 19 17:51:38 <jcpham>	i need more risk!
Dec 19 17:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	i kinda rue the day one of these whales discovers what reverse martingale is and tears sdice a new one.
Dec 19 17:52:42 <jurov>	in other news, it looks like s.mpoe trades thinned to a trickle
Dec 19 17:52:44 <Bugpowder>	jcpham short unhedged puts at 14.
Dec 19 17:52:49 <dub>	I think this roger ver business is grounds for a round of panic selling anyway
Dec 19 17:52:58 <dub>	have at it
Dec 19 17:52:58 <thestringpuller>	panic sell
Dec 19 17:53:02 <thestringpuller>	sell sell sell
Dec 19 17:53:05 <thestringpuller>	;;tickee
Dec 19 17:53:07 <gribble>	Error: "tickee" is not a valid command.
Dec 19 17:53:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 19 17:53:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43403, Best ask: 13.49499, Bid-ask spread: 0.06096, Last trade: 13.49499, 24 hour volume: 34245.99274865, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.37071
Dec 19 17:53:15 <pigeons>	i like how he thinks his whining will harm bitcoin
Dec 19 17:53:18 <Bugpowder>	;;tickle
Dec 19 17:53:18 <gribble>	Error: "tickle" is not a valid command.
Dec 19 17:53:20 <pigeons>	if it isn't deleted
Dec 19 17:53:21 <thestringpuller>	nope
Dec 19 17:53:27 <mircea_popescu>	<pigeons> i like how he thinks his whining will harm bitcoin << werd.
Dec 19 17:53:45 <dub>	most prolific bitcoin masturbator throws toys, SELL WHILE YOU CAN
Dec 19 17:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes i wonder if im the only btc investor that gets laid.
Dec 19 17:54:55 <Diablo-D3>	meh
Dec 19 17:55:00 <Diablo-D3>	people are yammering in here
Dec 19 17:55:02 <Diablo-D3>	I go take a nap
Dec 19 17:55:03 <Diablo-D3>	come back
Dec 19 17:55:06 <Diablo-D3>	people are yammering in here
Dec 19 17:55:10 <Diablo-D3>	some things never change
Dec 19 17:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	go take a nap.
Dec 19 17:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061866 = 2.6732 BTC [-]
Dec 19 17:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13887 @ 0.000619 = 8.5961 BTC [+]
Dec 19 17:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127488.msg1410202#msg1410202 inquiring minds wish to know
Dec 19 17:56:44 <jcpham>	is whether or not giga is a scammer based solely on the GIGAMINING asset or some other event?
Dec 19 17:56:49 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you already know whats going on there
Dec 19 17:56:52 <Diablo-D3>	giga is suing nefario
Dec 19 17:57:06 <Diablo-D3>	nefario thinks he can win in court by not giving giga the info or the btc
Dec 19 17:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 the voting notion amuses me.
Dec 19 17:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	let us have an election trial!
Dec 19 17:57:26 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, how the fuck does that work
Dec 19 17:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	whoever shows tits is not guilty ?
Dec 19 17:57:51 <Diablo-D3>	hah
Dec 19 17:57:52 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Dec 19 17:57:52 <dub>	bitcoin, its democratastic
Dec 19 17:57:54 *	Diablo-D3 shows tits
Dec 19 17:58:05 <Diablo-D3>	FEAR MY MANLY MAN BOOBS
Dec 19 17:58:21 <Diablo-D3>	AND MY COARSE CHEST HAIR
Dec 19 17:58:33 <pigeons>	go back to nap
Dec 19 17:58:39 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, 3M has been after me for my chest hair, its the most abrasive shit ever
Dec 19 17:58:47 <Diablo-D3>	well, second to my beard
Dec 19 17:58:51 <mircea_popescu>	nap, srsly.
Dec 19 17:59:39 <Bugpowder>	Are they suing in the rota?
Dec 19 18:00:09 <pigeons>	not yet
Dec 19 18:00:10 <dub>	what would be the point?
Dec 19 18:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	i think that's not phantastique enough yet
Dec 19 18:00:34 <dub>	the only reason to sue in rota is if the other pary has a reputation to lose
Dec 19 18:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	this is true
Dec 19 18:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	which is by now all of like... 5 people
Dec 19 18:01:03 <dub>	nefario will need a new identity to get anyone other than amir to trust him
Dec 19 18:01:09 <jurov>	well,in fact i tried to inflict upon Ukto the agreement that if violated, shall be judger by rota
Dec 19 18:01:21 <jurov>	but he said he forgot pgp passphrase :/
Dec 19 18:01:22 <mircea_popescu>	omg and he refused ?
Dec 19 18:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	SCAM
Dec 19 18:01:30 <jurov>	so, no rota...
Dec 19 18:01:38 <pigeons>	;;ident Ukto
Dec 19 18:01:38 <gribble>	Nick 'Ukto', with hostmask 'Ukto!~Kami-Sama@99-30-79-193.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
Dec 19 18:02:43 <jurov>	no that is not fully correct. in fact he first said that his software has no clearsign function
Dec 19 18:02:53 <mircea_popescu>	eh?!
Dec 19 18:03:56 <pigeons>	--clearsign
Dec 19 18:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	is he on like a mac or something ?
Dec 19 18:04:17 <jcpham>	oh wait i can be sued
Dec 19 18:04:19 <jurov>	he uses kleopatra on windows or something
Dec 19 18:04:32 <mircea_popescu>	kleo can clearsign
Dec 19 18:04:47 *	jcpham sprinkles anti-lawsuit fairy dust all around
Dec 19 18:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3166 @ 0.000619 = 1.9598 BTC [+]
Dec 19 18:04:54 <pigeons>	;rate Ukto -1 he uses kleopatra on windows or something
Dec 19 18:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4784 @ 0.00061999 = 2.966 BTC [+]
Dec 19 18:05:07 *	mircea_popescu sues jcpham 
Dec 19 18:05:43 <jcpham>	sue me in romanian court and pay for my plane ticket
Dec 19 18:06:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0036 = 18 BTC [-]
Dec 19 18:06:24 <mircea_popescu>	i'll pay for your chicken bus ticket
Dec 19 18:06:38 <jcpham>	oooh a chicken bus!
Dec 19 18:06:43 <jcpham>	like romancing the stone
Dec 19 18:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00061999 = 11.1598 BTC [+]
Dec 19 18:08:50 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, why messing with tickets. just put a reward on jcpham. dead or alive
Dec 19 18:09:06 <jurov>	(for court, he's better alive i guess)
Dec 19 18:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	"bring one jcpham impaled on an 68 inch sperm whale cock, preferably alive. reward 11 btc"
Dec 19 18:12:16 <Diablo-D3>	I just realized something
Dec 19 18:12:29 <Diablo-D3>	the BFLS and BFLS.RIG tickers are inaba's
Dec 19 18:12:43 <thestringpuller>	on bitfunder?
Dec 19 18:12:51 <Diablo-D3>	no, GLBSE
Dec 19 18:13:54 <dub>	derp
Dec 19 18:13:57 <pigeons>	really?
Dec 19 18:14:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128556 @ 0.00061999 = 79.7034 BTC [+]
Dec 19 18:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1484344 @ 0.00062 = 920.2933 BTC [+]
Dec 19 18:14:24 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Dec 19 18:14:28 <Diablo-D3>	I just finally realized that
Dec 19 18:14:34 <pigeons>	hmm you are correct
Dec 19 18:14:45 <Diablo-D3>	and he started them BEFORE he was hired by BFL
Dec 19 18:14:47 <mircea_popescu>	he was trying to merge them
Dec 19 18:14:51 <pigeons>	what a shill
Dec 19 18:14:54 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well, honestly, he should
Dec 19 18:15:02 <mircea_popescu>	people couldn't agree on ratios
Dec 19 18:15:17 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, he should just shove a fair ratio down their throats
Dec 19 18:15:19 <Diablo-D3>	do it on mh
Dec 19 18:15:25 <pigeons>	someone asked me if there was bfl or if it was all a scheme by inaba
Dec 19 18:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	what did you say ?
Dec 19 18:16:03 <pigeons>	i know some folks who have visited the shop and met everyone
Dec 19 18:16:05 <Diablo-D3>	bfls and bfls.rigs represented the same ratio of ownership of their hardware
Dec 19 18:16:36 <Diablo-D3>	I forget what it was, but it was like 1/200th of a single or a rig respectively
Dec 19 18:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons o that actully happened ? i thought it was just planed
Dec 19 18:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	yochdog et al ?
Dec 19 18:17:00 <thestringpuller>	whoa
Dec 19 18:17:06 <thestringpuller>	thats a lot of btc
Dec 19 18:17:06 <Diablo-D3>	and singles into rigs is a integer number
Dec 19 18:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Dec 19 18:17:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006151 / 0.00062222 / 0.00063666 (2141211 shares, 1,332.30 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053683 / 0.00063995 (104071550 shares, 55,869.67 BTC)
Dec 19 18:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 19 18:17:24 <Diablo-D3>	so you CAN figure out how much ownership a share of BFLS is on rigs
Dec 19 18:17:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368484 / 0.0036995 (671563 shares, 2,474.60 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343671 / 0.0037 (7280181 shares, 25,019.89 BTC)
Dec 19 18:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	this is like,... the first time ever something trades moar in a day than s.mpoe i think
Dec 19 18:17:48 <mircea_popescu>	well other than ipo day maybe
Dec 19 18:17:53 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: heh
Dec 19 18:17:55 <pigeons>	no not yochdog, but folks have been there more than once and gotten the tour, talked to everyone etc
Dec 19 18:17:57 <Diablo-D3>	whats with all the dice love?
Dec 19 18:18:07 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: people who I dont trust, however
Dec 19 18:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	pays in a month the sort of divs fiat corps pay in 5 years
Dec 19 18:18:27 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 19 18:18:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.49452, Best ask: 13.51990, Bid-ask spread: 0.02538, Last trade: 13.52000, 24 hour volume: 34243.77923978, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.37348
Dec 19 18:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons notably who ?
Dec 19 18:18:36 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: whats the equiv APY on that
Dec 19 18:18:49 <pigeons>	i am sure the people i am talking about aren't lying. that doesn't mean these people aren't being scammed by bfl
Dec 19 18:19:00 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: yeah exactly
Dec 19 18:19:13 <Diablo-D3>	like, friedcat is going to send me a board for evaluation and DM dev
Dec 19 18:19:22 <Diablo-D3>	we'll know in 5 seconds flat if its the real deal or not
Dec 19 18:20:36 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 if you put in 3200 to buy 1% of S.DICE at ipo you now have ~3684.84 btc worth of shares + 139.42 btc worth of dividends, for a total gain of 624.26
Dec 19 18:21:04 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: how many days ago was IPO?
Dec 19 18:21:04 <mircea_popescu>	that's 19.5% since late august
Dec 19 18:21:12 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Dec 19 18:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	so something like 70% api overal.
Dec 19 18:21:41 <Diablo-D3>	august as in 4 months ago august?
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Dec 19 18:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Dec 19 18:21:53 <Diablo-D3>	holy fuck.
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Dec 19 18:22:08 <mircea_popescu>	and ppl were liek... ooo it's too expensive
Dec 19 18:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	and mpoe-pr was stfu you don't have a pot to piss in
Dec 19 18:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	and well... she was bad pr and they were bad investors. win-win.
Dec 19 18:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	but all the action recently is prolly due to the ~15k they're making this month
Dec 19 18:23:36 <mircea_popescu>	which adds another 150 btc to that equation, taking total net to 770ish
Dec 19 18:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	and api more like 90%
Dec 19 18:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.AWHG] 134 @ 0.06165072 = 8.2612 BTC [-]
Dec 19 18:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.ENGG] 45 @ 0.25573768 = 11.5082 BTC [-]
Dec 19 18:29:17 <jurov>	btw, how X.IDIFF.DEC settled?
Dec 19 18:29:29 <jurov>	;;difficulty
Dec 19 18:29:30 <gribble>	Error: "difficulty" is not a valid command.
Dec 19 18:30:49 <pigeons>	Ukto: offer to settle X.IDIFF via hashpower.com
Dec 19 18:30:49 <mircea_popescu>	3370182
Dec 19 18:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	we talked about it, hecant. dumbass shares system
Dec 19 18:32:13 <jurov>	ic
Dec 19 18:36:40 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 19 18:36:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.60000, Best ask: 13.60061, Bid-ask spread: 0.00061, Last trade: 13.60000, 24 hour volume: 38724.18251965, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39880
Dec 19 18:36:46 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Dec 19 18:36:47 <gribble>	3370181.7992778
Dec 19 18:37:20 <smickles>	!ticker x.idiff.dec
Dec 19 18:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.DEC] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 (1 shares, 0.03 BTC)
Dec 19 18:37:40 <smickles>	someone made a good buy
Dec 19 18:37:42 <thestringpuller>	calls at 14
Dec 19 18:37:46 <Bugpowder>	!ticker x.diff.mar
Dec 19 18:37:47 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Dec 19 18:37:49 <smickles>	i have calls at 14
Dec 19 18:37:52 <Bugpowder>	!ticker x.idiff.mar
Dec 19 18:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.07995 / 0.07995 / 0.07995 (20 shares, 1.60 BTC)
Dec 19 18:38:20 <smickles>	and at a better price than mpoebot
Dec 19 18:39:45 *	mircea_popescu looks
Dec 19 18:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	0.08057949	3 ?
Dec 19 18:40:09 <Bugpowder>	3
Dec 19 18:40:29 <Bugpowder>	sorry dont have the capital
Dec 19 18:40:32 <Bugpowder>	to buy
Dec 19 18:40:39 <Bugpowder>	don't want to get locked out of my account
Dec 19 18:41:07 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah
Dec 19 18:41:13 <smickles>	I only have 3 right now :P
Dec 19 18:41:27 <smickles>	and I don't have a bot running yet either
Dec 19 18:42:14 <mircea_popescu>	I know there was some trading going on, but the volume was almost non-existent, as most people held on to the shares.  Regardless of what may have happened on the exchange, the shares were never meant to be a trading stock and for all intents and purposes, I used GLBSE as a glorified excel spreadsheet to handle the distribution of the mined funds in a fast, easy manner.  From the volume, I think most people agreed with
Dec 19 18:42:15 <mircea_popescu>	 that.
Dec 19 18:42:16 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Dec 19 18:43:03 <smickles>	who said that?
Dec 19 18:43:14 <smickles>	tell me it was giga
Dec 19 18:44:19 <mircea_popescu>	inaba
Dec 19 18:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89902.msg1388715#msg1388715
Dec 19 18:44:36 <thestringpuller>	smickles pm
Dec 19 18:44:41 <smickles>	thestringpuller:
Dec 19 18:44:48 <smickles>	misfire -_-
Dec 19 18:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131678.0
Dec 19 18:48:28 <mircea_popescu>	ppl are sorry.
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Dec 19 18:49:54 <mircea_popescu>	"Please don't leave Nethead. Scammer or not, Bitcoin needs people like you just as much as Bitcoin needs businesses like ours. "
Dec 19 18:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	who is writing this copy ?
Dec 19 18:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	i gotta ask. i gotta know. who ?
Dec 19 18:50:18 <pigeons>	"Please don't leave Nethead. Scammer or not, Bitcoin needs people like you just as much as Bitcoin needs businesses like ours."
Dec 19 18:50:22 <pigeons>	oh
Dec 19 18:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	...
Dec 19 18:50:24 <pigeons>	hehe
Dec 19 18:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	is it like... a curse ? someone set them up da voodoo ?
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Dec 19 18:55:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062 = 7.254 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 19:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00062 = 1.829 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 19:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00062 = 3.379 BTC [+]
Dec 19 19:16:47 <dub>	lol
Dec 19 19:17:11 <dub>	bitcion needs scammers -roger ver, 2012
Dec 19 19:20:35 <Namjies>	I have no news of Amazingrando
Dec 19 19:21:36 <Namjies>	last post on forum was december 6th
Dec 19 19:24:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00062 = 1.488 BTC [+]
Dec 19 19:32:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2999 @ 0.00062 = 1.8594 BTC [+]
Dec 19 19:32:13 <smickles>	< dub> bitcion needs scammers -roger ver, 2012 << quote of the year?
Dec 19 19:32:59 <smickles>	Namjies: d'ya think amizingrando took a cue from shakaru, they did know each other well enough
Dec 19 19:33:01 <kakobrekla>	too early to tell, 10 days left
Dec 19 19:33:09 <pigeons>	well it needs them just as much as it needs businesses like that
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Dec 19 19:38:07 <dub>	yeah, sorry 'bitcoin needs scammers and fuckwit businesses'
Dec 19 19:38:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]
Dec 19 19:40:40 <thestringpuller>	dub: as in "i'll fuckwit it"
Dec 19 19:40:47 <thestringpuller>	:D
Dec 19 19:42:04 <smickles>	151779458957711
Dec 19 19:42:13 <thestringpuller>	good thing bitinstant isn't listed
Dec 19 19:42:16 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Dec 19 19:42:16 <gribble>	3370181.7992778
Dec 19 19:42:18 <thestringpuller>	it's stock would plummet
Dec 19 19:42:40 <smickles>	151779494953983
Dec 19 19:42:53 <smickles>	that is the max possible diff at x.idiff.dec settlement
Dec 19 19:43:36 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 19 19:43:47 <thestringpuller>	I wonder who has that one X.IDIFF.DEC
Dec 19 19:43:58 <thestringpuller>	!ticker X.IDIFF.DEC
Dec 19 19:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.DEC] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 (1 shares, 0.03 BTC)
Dec 19 19:45:40 <smickles>	that was this past settlement tho
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Dec 19 19:48:39 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mod6
Dec 19 19:48:40 <gribble>	mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 43 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <mod6> jurov does brokerage
Dec 19 19:48:48 <thestringpuller>	;;seen jurov
Dec 19 19:48:49 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 16 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <jurov> ic
Dec 19 19:48:59 <thestringpuller>	;;seen gribble
Dec 19 19:48:59 <gribble>	I have not seen gribble.
Dec 19 19:49:07 <thestringpuller>	gribble
Dec 19 19:49:11 <thestringpuller>	;;gribble
Dec 19 19:49:12 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Dec 19 19:53:20 <smickles>	Dale Gribble?
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Dec 19 20:02:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00062 = 9.083 BTC [+]
Dec 19 20:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10509 @ 0.00062 = 6.5156 BTC [+]
Dec 19 20:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1138 @ 0.00062 = 0.7056 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 20:37:52 <thestringpuller>	trilemma dilemma
Dec 19 20:40:02 <Bugpowder>	bibtex dilemma
Dec 19 20:44:07 <thestringpuller>	I'm short your shares Bugpowder
Dec 19 20:44:14 <thestringpuller>	Short satoshi dice!
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Dec 19 20:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9370 @ 0.00062 = 5.8094 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 20:49:00 <Bugpowder>	how many do you want to borrow
Dec 19 20:50:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00062 = 12.338 BTC [+]
Dec 19 20:51:14 <Bugpowder>	100,000?
Dec 19 20:51:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00062 = 5.549 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 20:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062 = 3.782 BTC [+]
Dec 19 20:59:40 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlUj0CmGyI8
Dec 19 20:59:53 <dub>	these dudes are the shit
Dec 19 21:00:57 <Diablo-D3>	wat
Dec 19 21:01:34 <thestringpuller>	i'm going to borrow like 1 million
Dec 19 21:01:36 <thestringpuller>	and short them all
Dec 19 21:02:46 <dub>	Diablo-D3: if you dont know turquoise jeep you need to check the rest of thier shit
Dec 19 21:03:49 <Bugpowder>	ok. but you have to pay the dividend out if you borrow shares.
Dec 19 21:04:08 <thestringpuller>	i don't plan to borrow during div payment
Dec 19 21:04:12 <thestringpuller>	directly after
Dec 19 21:04:17 <thestringpuller>	ou
Dec 19 21:04:29 <thestringpuller>	oh you meant I have to deduct dividends from my profits...
Dec 19 21:06:58 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRVOOwFNp5U
Dec 19 21:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00062 = 9.951 BTC [+]
Dec 19 21:10:57 <dub>	Diablo-D3: what the fuck is this shit?
Dec 19 21:11:12 <Diablo-D3>	rap, apparently.
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Dec 19 21:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9948 @ 0.00062 = 6.1678 BTC [+]
Dec 19 21:12:56 <dub>	christian rap maybe
Dec 19 21:13:24 <thestringpuller>	lol S.MPOE is in IPO mode again
Dec 19 21:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0036 = 2.52 BTC [-]
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Dec 19 21:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062 = 3.1 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 21:17:50 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V97c_Vx-NFo
Dec 19 21:18:48 <Diablo-D3>	now that guy needs to die
Dec 19 21:18:55 <Diablo-D3>	I dont even know what songs hes parodying
Dec 19 21:19:35 <Diablo-D3>	wait, one of them is gangnam style
Dec 19 21:19:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8449 @ 0.00062 = 5.2384 BTC [+]
Dec 19 21:20:21 <dub>	Diablo-D3: real rap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eASmbyOTHKs
Dec 19 21:20:45 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Cr0EWwaTk
Dec 19 21:20:47 <Diablo-D3>	this scares me
Dec 19 21:21:23 <dub>	also, best dancing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxi73RQlLB8
Dec 19 21:23:35 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 19 21:23:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.63001, Best ask: 13.63101, Bid-ask spread: 0.00100, Last trade: 13.63001, 24 hour volume: 40586.65802997, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.43001
Dec 19 21:24:42 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Dec 19 21:24:45 <gribble>	Time since last block: 49 minutes and 48 seconds
Dec 19 21:24:52 <kakobrekla>	meh
Dec 19 21:24:58 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk3qkQROb_k
Dec 19 21:25:01 <Diablo-D3>	what the fuck is this shit
Dec 19 21:26:15 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4
Dec 19 21:26:16 <Diablo-D3>	what the fuck is this shit
Dec 19 21:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.0036 = 8.28 BTC [-]
Dec 19 21:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00062 = 1.953 BTC [+]
Dec 19 21:41:04 <Bugpowder>	anyone here a latex bibtex master?
Dec 19 21:44:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2349 @ 0.00358898 = 8.4305 BTC [-]
Dec 19 21:44:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00358041 = 0.7161 BTC [-]
Dec 19 21:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2073 @ 0.00355895 = 7.3777 BTC [-]
Dec 19 21:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1235 @ 0.00355209 = 4.3868 BTC [-]
Dec 19 22:04:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 22:09:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00062 = 1.736 BTC [+]
Dec 19 22:10:35 <jurov>	so everyone is buying nao? and all my bots are stuck on sell side?
Dec 19 22:11:38 <jurov>	well that's life
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Dec 19 22:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00062 = 7.068 BTC [+]
Dec 19 22:14:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6521 @ 0.00062 = 4.043 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 22:17:37 <jurov>	;;calc  8349343/(6521+11400+2800+3300+8449+5000+9948+16050+6100+8950+19900+9370+1138+10509+14650+10100+2999+2400+5450+2950+11700)/8
Dec 19 22:17:38 <gribble>	6.1506557778
Dec 19 22:18:10 <jurov>	extrapolating from last 4 hours, 0.00062 wall shall last 6 days
Dec 19 22:18:35 <jurov>	^ also means jurov is bored and can't sleep
Dec 19 22:21:07 <jurov>	;;calc  8349343/(6521+11400+2800+3300+8449+5000+9948+16050+6100+8950+19900+9370+1138+10509+14650+10100+2999+2400+5450+2950+11700+1484344)/8
Dec 19 22:21:08 <gribble>	0.630985615117
Dec 19 22:21:36 <jurov>	;;calc  8349343/(6521+11400+2800+3300+8449+5000+9948+16050+6100+8950+19900+9370+1138+10509+14650+10100+2999+2400+5450+2950+11700+1484344)*4
Dec 19 22:21:37 <gribble>	20.1915396837
Dec 19 22:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00062 = 0.744 BTC [+]
Dec 19 22:21:43 <jurov>	.. or 20 hours
Dec 19 22:26:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00062 = 1.519 BTC [+]
Dec 19 22:28:56 <kakobrekla>	hmm?
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Dec 19 22:33:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5249 @ 0.00062 = 3.2544 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 22:45:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8721 @ 0.00062 = 5.407 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 22:50:10 <kakobrekla>	which is it then
Dec 19 22:50:22 <kakobrekla>	6 days or 20 hrs
Dec 19 22:50:38 <kakobrekla>	id say the first if id guess
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Dec 19 23:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00062 = 2.325 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 23:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00062 = 1.24 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 23:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00062 = 2.666 BTC [+]
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Dec 19 23:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12220 @ 0.00062 = 7.5764 BTC [+]
Dec 19 23:52:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 565 @ 0.00355209 = 2.0069 BTC [-]
Dec 19 23:52:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 535 @ 0.0035 = 1.8725 BTC [-]
Dec 19 23:53:06 <Ukto>	for the record
Dec 19 23:53:16 <Ukto>	the sotware does appear to have clearsign, they jsut done call it that  :P
Dec 19 23:53:40 <Ukto>	secondly, I grabbed it just as a side thing for OTC a year and a half ago
Dec 19 23:54:09 <Ukto>	I rememebr thepassphrase, just not in all exactness, and I sat to think about it, I was many many hours overdue for sleep
Dec 19 23:54:18 <Ukto>	will prolly work it this weekend.
Dec 19 23:54:39 <Ukto>	and lastly
Dec 19 23:54:41 <Ukto>	shove it. :P
Dec 19 23:54:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29150 @ 0.00062 = 18.073 BTC [+]
Dec 19 23:55:03 <Ukto>	;rate pigeons 0 Worthless. :P
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Dec 20 00:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00356446 = 3.3862 BTC [+]
Dec 20 00:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00062 = 2.697 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 00:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00062 = 1.581 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 00:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00062 = 2.945 BTC [+]
Dec 20 00:48:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14019 @ 0.00062 = 8.6918 BTC [+]
Dec 20 01:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 755 @ 0.00358398 = 2.7059 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 01:10:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00062 = 6.975 BTC [+]
Dec 20 01:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062 = 4.34 BTC [+]
Dec 20 01:42:51 <Ukto>	hm "How about going on https://btct.co , where Cognitive is gone? They had a vote on it, the platform is nice and it seems relatively serious (as far as BTC things goes)" <-- Umm. How does "Everything here is fake/joke" to be taken as "serious" ?
Dec 20 01:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9088 @ 0.00062 = 5.6346 BTC [+]
Dec 20 01:54:32 <jcpham>	derp
Dec 20 02:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00062 = 6.541 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 02:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00062 = 5.239 BTC [+]
Dec 20 02:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6131 @ 0.00062 = 3.8012 BTC [+]
Dec 20 02:32:32 <Namjies>	In other news, I suddenly became a mystic and can now officially announce I survived the (yes once again) end of the world, which this time was planned for tomorrow.
Dec 20 02:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21883 @ 0.00062 = 13.5675 BTC [+]
Dec 20 02:35:36 <Namjies>	Ukto: because they're, for once, honest?
Dec 20 02:36:22 <Ukto>	hehe
Dec 20 02:36:27 <Ukto>	I gues thats one way to put it :P
Dec 20 02:44:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00062 = 7.099 BTC [+]
Dec 20 02:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13077 @ 0.00062 = 8.1077 BTC [+]
Dec 20 02:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17448 @ 0.00062 = 10.8178 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 02:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00062 = 5.952 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 03:01:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135519341514.jpg fake or real ?
Dec 20 03:07:47 <Anduck>	wtf mircea_popescu?
Dec 20 03:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Dec 20 03:08:01 <Anduck>	the pic
Dec 20 03:08:18 <mircea_popescu>	yea...
Dec 20 03:08:29 <Anduck>	what does it matter is it real or fake??
Dec 20 03:09:10 <mircea_popescu>	now that is a good question hehe
Dec 20 03:09:32 <mircea_popescu>	people have lately gotten in this habit of claiming any large round tit is the result of surgery.
Dec 20 03:12:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00062 = 1.116 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 03:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062 = 4.929 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 03:40:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00062 = 4.619 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 03:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00062 = 1.891 BTC [+]
Dec 20 03:55:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00062 = 3.162 BTC [+]
Dec 20 03:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7738 @ 0.00062 = 4.7976 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 04:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00062 = 8.184 BTC [+]
Dec 20 04:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13153 @ 0.00062 = 8.1549 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 04:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10582 @ 0.00062 = 6.5608 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 04:46:12 <dub>	;;rate jcpham 1 drives a Toyota
Dec 20 04:46:13 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jcpham has been recorded.
Dec 20 04:46:30 *	dub lvls jcpham up
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Dec 20 04:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/63P8r.jpg
Dec 20 04:47:43 <mircea_popescu>	aghahaha
Dec 20 04:52:47 <dub>	thats good
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Dec 20 05:03:58 <EskimoBob>	yawn... nice weather we have today! -15 and windchill -24
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Dec 20 05:06:14 <EskimoBob>	it's going to be cold soon
Dec 20 05:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00062 = 8.029 BTC [+]
Dec 20 05:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8220 @ 0.00062 = 5.0964 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 05:32:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00062 = 1.519 BTC [+]
Dec 20 05:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062 = 4.929 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 05:49:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4738 @ 0.00062 = 2.9376 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 06:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062 = 3.906 BTC [+]
Dec 20 06:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6732 @ 0.0006195 = 4.1705 BTC [-]
Dec 20 06:11:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7874 @ 0.00061946 = 4.8776 BTC [-]
Dec 20 06:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12512 @ 0.00061935 = 7.7493 BTC [-]
Dec 20 06:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00061925 = 1.2075 BTC [-]
Dec 20 06:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00061903 = 7.0879 BTC [-]
Dec 20 06:11:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0006189 = 1.671 BTC [-]
Dec 20 06:11:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00061887 = 4.4559 BTC [-]
Dec 20 06:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00061849 = 2.1338 BTC [-]
Dec 20 06:11:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00061837 = 4.2049 BTC [-]
Dec 20 06:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00061793 = 2.9043 BTC [-]
Dec 20 06:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12132 @ 0.00061767 = 7.4936 BTC [-]
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Dec 20 06:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6422 @ 0.00062 = 3.9816 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 06:24:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00350838 = 3.5084 BTC [-]
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Dec 20 06:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9948 @ 0.00062 = 6.1678 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 06:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00351012 = 1.053 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 06:38:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5802 @ 0.00062 = 3.5972 BTC [+]
Dec 20 06:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7770 @ 0.00062 = 4.8174 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 06:48:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2118 @ 0.00062 = 1.3132 BTC [+]
Dec 20 06:49:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00062 = 6.665 BTC [+]
Dec 20 06:51:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6731 @ 0.00062 = 4.1732 BTC [+]
Dec 20 06:54:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00062 = 6.107 BTC [+]
Dec 20 06:57:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
Dec 20 07:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062 = 3.72 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 07:17:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15946 @ 0.00062 = 9.8865 BTC [+]
Dec 20 07:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062 = 3.1 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 07:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]
Dec 20 07:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10913 @ 0.00062 = 6.7661 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 07:37:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062 = 3.038 BTC [+]
Dec 20 07:47:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062 = 3.782 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 07:56:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5531 @ 0.00062 = 3.4292 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 08:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00062 = 7.688 BTC [+]
Dec 20 08:18:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37086 @ 0.00062 = 22.9933 BTC [+]
Dec 20 08:29:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00350838 = 2.105 BTC [-]
Dec 20 08:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00062 = 9.207 BTC [+]
Dec 20 08:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]
Dec 20 08:50:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
Dec 20 08:56:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.DICE
Dec 20 08:56:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368607 / 0.0036995 (658562 shares, 2,427.51 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343695 / 0.0037 (7293593 shares, 25,067.73 BTC)
Dec 20 08:56:41 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (.0036 - .0035) / .0036
Dec 20 08:56:42 <gribble>	0.0277777777778
Dec 20 08:57:04 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (.0036 - .0035) / .002
Dec 20 08:57:05 <gribble>	0.05
Dec 20 08:57:36 <thestringpuller>	smickles: ^^^ seems possible to short even before the div's have paid
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Dec 20 09:16:35 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: are you waiting for sdice to pass some serious gas and keel over?
Dec 20 09:17:05 <pigeons>	seems risky, good luck
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Dec 20 09:17:53 <Ukto>	well
Dec 20 09:17:56 <Ukto>	it will be smelly
Dec 20 09:18:02 <Ukto>	pigeons: Can I get your opinion
Dec 20 09:18:05 <Ukto>	on the changes I made?
Dec 20 09:19:23 <pigeons>	to BF?
Dec 20 09:19:36 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 20 09:19:44 <Ukto>	i changed the ordering buy/sell boxes
Dec 20 09:19:55 <Ukto>	and added some quick fill buttons
Dec 20 09:20:00 <Ukto>	and some highlighting
Dec 20 09:20:08 <Ukto>	to remind you before hitting the button
Dec 20 09:20:10 <pigeons>	yes i didn't like the reverse order
Dec 20 09:20:22 <Ukto>	.. reverse order ?
Dec 20 09:20:26 *	Ukto hasnt reversed anything
Dec 20 09:20:37 <pigeons>	oh
Dec 20 09:20:49 <pigeons>	hey it looks fine to me. but i just press buttons
Dec 20 09:21:09 <Ukto>	I was able to save some screen space by shrinking them down
Dec 20 09:21:23 <Ukto>	think its less confusing saying Max Cost, and Min Earned ?
Dec 20 09:21:39 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: It's not going to kill over but it's a mini bubble atm
Dec 20 09:21:48 <Ukto>	OWAH
Dec 20 09:21:49 <Ukto>	...
Dec 20 09:21:57 <Ukto>	Did you know that firefox.. has a 3d view for webpages?
Dec 20 09:21:58 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 20 09:22:01 <thestringpuller>	yes
Dec 20 09:22:06 <thestringpuller>	You've never seen it Ukto?
Dec 20 09:22:07 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: did you sell some or are you just planning?
Dec 20 09:22:14 <Ukto>	i have alwayas used firebug 0,o
Dec 20 09:22:29 <Ukto>	thats pretty cool
Dec 20 09:22:36 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: if people start eating into the .0037 ipo then I will
Dec 20 09:22:45 <thestringpuller>	that is before divs
Dec 20 09:23:31 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: but now I hate you because you are using too much CSS and javascript
Dec 20 09:23:39 <thestringpuller>	and am closing my bitfunder account
Dec 20 09:23:45 <EskimoBob>	lol
Dec 20 09:23:57 <Ukto>	ROFLOL
Dec 20 09:24:11 <Ukto>	did you even have one to start with ?
Dec 20 09:24:14 <Ukto>	actually
Dec 20 09:24:21 <Ukto>	I have been using a crap ton of in-line css
Dec 20 09:24:22 <Ukto>	its pissing me off
Dec 20 09:24:26 <Ukto>	compatability shit
Dec 20 09:24:35 <Ukto>	so I gave up on the css sheets
Dec 20 09:24:41 <thestringpuller>	why do people want to make their stock exchanges so pretty?
Dec 20 09:24:52 <thestringpuller>	the NYSE doesn't have some crazy UI on the floor
Dec 20 09:24:56 <thestringpuller>	it's just computers with an API
Dec 20 09:25:01 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: why those buttons on trade history page? (SELL)
Dec 20 09:25:13 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: click em
Dec 20 09:25:16 <Ukto>	the are jus pretty markers
Dec 20 09:25:20 <Ukto>	but apparently
Dec 20 09:25:23 <Ukto>	no one gets that
Dec 20 09:25:26 <Ukto>	and its obviously confusing
Dec 20 09:25:33 <Ukto>	so I will be changing it out
Dec 20 09:25:41 <EskimoBob>	nothing happens
Dec 20 09:25:43 <thestringpuller>	how much money is bitfunder making atm
Dec 20 09:25:51 <thestringpuller>	unless that isn't public yet :P
Dec 20 09:25:58 <Ukto>	not very much
Dec 20 09:26:05 <Ukto>	less than 1 btc since it lanched
Dec 20 09:26:08 <Ukto>	laynched*
Dec 20 09:26:10 <thestringpuller>	don't you own something else
Dec 20 09:26:11 <Ukto>	linched.
Dec 20 09:26:12 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 20 09:26:16 <thestringpuller>	that you used to fund bitfunder
Dec 20 09:26:16 <Ukto>	2 things
Dec 20 09:26:18 <Ukto>	weexchange
Dec 20 09:26:20 <Ukto>	and hashpower
Dec 20 09:26:23 <Ukto>	fund bitfunder?
Dec 20 09:26:26 <Ukto>	whats to fund?
Dec 20 09:26:28 <Ukto>	just my time
Dec 20 09:26:31 <thestringpuller>	exactly
Dec 20 09:26:34 <thestringpuller>	and as bitinstant says
Dec 20 09:26:37 <thestringpuller>	time is money mah nigga
Dec 20 09:26:49 <Ukto>	oh how I knows
Dec 20 09:26:52 <thestringpuller>	you could be usin' that time to collect yo money elsewhere
Dec 20 09:27:07 <thestringpuller>	how much do I have to pay you to get that FF7
Dec 20 09:27:09 <Ukto>	actually
Dec 20 09:27:14 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 20 09:27:16 <Ukto>	SO
Dec 20 09:27:19 <Ukto>	thats what this is all about
Dec 20 09:27:38 <Ukto>	I'll go look in just a few, how about that
Dec 20 09:27:39 <Ukto>	:)
Dec 20 09:27:42 <thestringpuller>	YAY
Dec 20 09:27:44 <Ukto>	but
Dec 20 09:27:48 <Ukto>	no more giving me shiz :P
Dec 20 09:27:56 <Ukto>	and you wear a BF badge :P
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Dec 20 09:27:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00062 = 5.611 BTC [+]
Dec 20 09:28:06 *	Ukto puts a politcal type pin on thestringpuller that says BitFunder
Dec 20 09:28:07 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 20 09:28:26 <thestringpuller>	I actually know who you are Ukto
Dec 20 09:28:32 <thestringpuller>	you're sorta pseudofamous from hashpower
Dec 20 09:28:41 <EskimoBob>	Ukto:What if switch assetlist and market in the menu
Dec 20 09:28:44 *	Ukto has to remember to like romney, and cancel all debit cards the moment onf conceit so ppl have to pay their way hoome :P
Dec 20 09:28:45 <thestringpuller>	now that i see your forum avatar
Dec 20 09:28:58 <EskimoBob>	I rather see the market data first
Dec 20 09:29:37 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: the sub-nav is diff for logged in/not
Dec 20 09:29:54 <Ukto>	besides
Dec 20 09:29:59 <Ukto>	the blue is pretty hard on the eyes
Dec 20 09:30:04 <Ukto>	compared to the easy to read blue letters below
Dec 20 09:30:08 <EskimoBob>	it is
Dec 20 09:30:14 <Ukto>	they are within a twitch of a space of click
Dec 20 09:30:19 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 20 09:30:41 <thestringpuller>	lol small world this is
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Dec 20 09:30:51 <thestringpuller>	the btc world that is
Dec 20 09:30:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00062 = 10.54 BTC [+]
Dec 20 09:31:02 <EskimoBob>	this is called "porno blue" for some historical reason. Actually all the 256 palette colors are :)
Dec 20 09:32:54 <thestringpuller>	i think the btc community uses more bootstrap than anyone else lol
Dec 20 09:32:57 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: no, if you believe anything that lunatic PR baba says, then everyone is a complete retard in btc world, except her of course
Dec 20 09:33:12 <thestringpuller>	MPOE-PR?
Dec 20 09:33:15 <thestringpuller>	who is baba?
Dec 20 09:33:21 <thestringpuller>	da fuck EskimoBob speak-uh da english
Dec 20 09:33:23 <EskimoBob>	yeah that's the one
Dec 20 09:33:54 <thestringpuller>	I don't care about anything that goes on in the forums tbh
Dec 20 09:33:56 <EskimoBob>	or is there any other PR-jokes around?
Dec 20 09:33:57 <thestringpuller>	that's how I lost money
Dec 20 09:34:10 <EskimoBob>	makes sense
Dec 20 09:34:25 <thestringpuller>	i care about results
Dec 20 09:34:34 <EskimoBob>	OK, time to get ready for the meeting.
Dec 20 09:34:38 *	EskimoBob is afk
Dec 20 09:38:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00062 = 5.332 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 09:48:24 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: S.DICE could have been shorted recently
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Dec 20 09:51:56 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 20 09:51:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44569, Best ask: 13.52978, Bid-ask spread: 0.08409, Last trade: 13.44569, 24 hour volume: 48118.47436117, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.45404
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Dec 20 09:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00062 = 3.751 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 09:54:16 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 39.97 / 13.40
Dec 20 09:54:17 <gribble>	2.9828358209
Dec 20 09:57:37 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: you recognize the char in the avatar?
Dec 20 09:58:27 <thestringpuller>	nah just I"ve seen it before
Dec 20 09:58:38 <thestringpuller>	when researching ozcoin
Dec 20 09:58:39 <thestringpuller>	some time ago
Dec 20 09:58:43 <thestringpuller>	unless that's not you
Dec 20 09:58:44 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Dec 20 10:00:08 <Ukto>	0,o
Dec 20 10:00:16 <Ukto>	thats a character from an old anime
Dec 20 10:00:23 <Ukto>	first time I ever used it
Dec 20 10:00:46 <thestringpuller>	ah
Dec 20 10:00:49 <Ukto>	was digging through some files from a real old computer, came accross a scan of an animation cel I have, and used that
Dec 20 10:00:57 <thestringpuller>	yea wrong forum tag then!
Dec 20 10:00:58 <thestringpuller>	haha
Dec 20 10:00:59 <Ukto>	cleaned it up a bit, remove dhte background
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Dec 20 10:01:22 <thestringpuller>	weexchange is based in australia?
Dec 20 10:02:26 <jcpham>	iirc
Dec 20 10:03:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00062 = 7.13 BTC [+]
Dec 20 10:04:03 <Bugpowder>	6 hours later I finally solve my LaTeX formatting issue
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Dec 20 10:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	knuth'd be proud of you
Dec 20 10:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062 = 4.34 BTC [+]
Dec 20 10:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/what-does-a-start-up-run-on/ :D
Dec 20 10:14:04 <pigeons>	sun drop and cheerwine
Dec 20 10:14:18 <pigeons>	i know they dont have those in romania, hence no startups
Dec 20 10:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	racist pigeons
Dec 20 10:15:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu you should just take down the mpex front end site
Dec 20 10:15:56 <thestringpuller>	the public side
Dec 20 10:16:14 <thestringpuller>	and say, "you bitches complained too much about Web 2.0, now you shits get nothing. Good luck"
Dec 20 10:21:05 <gigavps>	lol
Dec 20 10:21:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062 = 6.076 BTC [+]
Dec 20 10:22:43 <thestringpuller>	are these girls even legal mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/f/src/133138961872.jpg ?
Dec 20 10:22:59 <pigeons>	what are you ciuicuciuc?
Dec 20 10:23:15 <pigeons>	oh, no they ain't
Dec 20 10:23:55 <thestringpuller>	this is how the FBI shows up at my door...
Dec 20 10:24:05 <thestringpuller>	ugh mircea_popescu this is why we can't have nice things
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Dec 20 10:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00062 = 6.293 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 10:38:45 <jcpham>	http://www.lfpress.com/2012/12/20/bernie-madoffs-brother-faces-sentencing-in-ponzi-case
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Dec 20 10:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i have no idea
Dec 20 10:44:51 <mircea_popescu>	are girls under 18 illegal to exist or illegal to be naked in your jurisdiction ?
Dec 20 10:44:57 <mircea_popescu>	cause it gets confusing at times
Dec 20 10:45:28 <jcpham>	it's actually 19 in my state
Dec 20 10:45:32 <jcpham>	minor until 19
Dec 20 10:45:39 <thestringpuller>	18 usually
Dec 20 10:45:40 <jcpham>	tobacco, voting, etc
Dec 20 10:45:51 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Dec 20 10:45:59 <thestringpuller>	in high school this girl put pictures of herself on the internet to piss off her ex
Dec 20 10:46:04 <thestringpuller>	the ex called the feds
Dec 20 10:46:05 <jcpham>	we protect them for an extra year
Dec 20 10:46:07 <thestringpuller>	girl was arrested
Dec 20 10:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol i hope she's serving time
Dec 20 10:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is huge https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131778.0
Dec 20 10:48:38 <thestringpuller>	no it's not
Dec 20 10:48:39 <thestringpuller>	...
Dec 20 10:49:27 <thestringpuller>	D-Wave has been around for a while
Dec 20 10:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	so have asics.
Dec 20 10:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00062 = 1.178 BTC [+]
Dec 20 10:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00062 = 0.868 BTC [+]
Dec 20 10:51:52 <thestringpuller>	ASICS the type of "thing"
Dec 20 10:51:58 <thestringpuller>	or ASICS the bitcoin fiasco
Dec 20 10:52:09 <thestringpuller>	ASICS as in Integrated Circuits as an industry?
Dec 20 10:52:32 <thestringpuller>	also mircea_popescu the .00062 IPO was pretty brilliant
Dec 20 10:52:40 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Dec 20 10:52:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006151 / 0.00061987 / 0.00062 (2624777 shares, 1,627.03 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053765 / 0.00063995 (104594132 shares, 56,235.22 BTC)
Dec 20 10:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	certainly took a good bite out of speculation
Dec 20 10:54:52 <thestringpuller>	I'm trying to see your correlation between DWAVE and the ASICS market
Dec 20 10:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	dwave is a scam, pretty much.
Dec 20 10:55:41 <mircea_popescu>	the asic market ? what asic market ?
Dec 20 10:56:37 <thestringpuller>	Sarcasm on the internet is like being sarcastic to an autistic child for me
Dec 20 10:56:41 <thestringpuller>	doesn't translate
Dec 20 10:56:44 <thestringpuller>	I apologize for being dumb
Dec 20 10:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 20 10:57:11 <thestringpuller>	btw http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/hardware/loser-dwave-does-not-quantum-compute
Dec 20 10:57:31 <thestringpuller>	I remember reading about this a few years back when I was getting into HPC
Dec 20 10:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2640 @ 0.00062 = 1.6368 BTC [+]
Dec 20 11:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	"It is actually much worse than the imbeciles attempting to convince the world they have a working quantum computer, as at least some of the quantum computing community laughs at them in public."
Dec 20 11:00:32 <mircea_popescu>	locklin dixit.
Dec 20 11:01:08 <jcpham>	Our current superconducting 128-qubit processor chip is housed inside a cryogenics system within a 10 square meter shielded room. If you are interested in finding out if this quantum computing system meet your needs please contact us for more information: sales@dwavesys.com
Dec 20 11:01:29 <jcpham>	^ fine print
Dec 20 11:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	PREORDERS AVAILABLE
Dec 20 11:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
Dec 20 11:01:48 <mircea_popescu>	note the same bad grammar as is par for "asic" "companies".
Dec 20 11:01:53 <jcpham>	just need a 10 suare meter shielded room
Dec 20 11:02:05 <jcpham>	and cryogenics
Dec 20 11:02:10 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131778.0
Dec 20 11:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha read the replies
Dec 20 11:02:16 <jcpham>	and you can hack the planet, i mean blockchain
Dec 20 11:02:21 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is Ver so high on your shitlist now that Bitinstant and Friends are blacklisted too?
Dec 20 11:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Dec 20 11:02:48 <thestringpuller>	BREAKING NEWS: I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Dec 20 11:02:56 <mircea_popescu>	he's not particularly high on my list, he did something stupid and got thrashed for it, apologized, hopefuly got the lesson
Dec 20 11:03:02 <thestringpuller>	haha
Dec 20 11:03:18 <thestringpuller>	unlike other people who refuse to admit when they fuck up
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Dec 20 11:03:21 <thestringpuller>	I guess that is a good thing
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Dec 20 11:05:35 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: remember our discussion about the composite Cocoa trading
Dec 20 11:05:35 <iz>	jcpham: also, it's not 128 qubits entangled with each other, it's like.. clusters of 4 (or 8 or some smaller grouping)
Dec 20 11:05:46 <iz>	that work in parallel
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Dec 20 11:06:00 <jcpham>	it seems like i read the announcement on that company a month or so back
Dec 20 11:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham they took funding a while ago.
Dec 20 11:06:22 <jcpham>	and the technical discussion was basically like " it isn't a quantum computer"
Dec 20 11:06:26 <iz>	yeah, a while ago they made news when lockheed bought one of their things
Dec 20 11:06:30 <jcpham>	maybe slashdot or HN
Dec 20 11:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	omfg jcpham has a forum name ?
Dec 20 11:08:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4210 @ 0.00062 = 2.6102 BTC [+]
Dec 20 11:08:13 <jcpham>	yep
Dec 20 11:08:16 <jcpham>	fuck that place
Dec 20 11:08:31 <jcpham>	no offense intended
Dec 20 11:08:44 <jcpham>	i have issues with my words being picked apart by clowns
Dec 20 11:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	hire pr.
Dec 20 11:09:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4807 @ 0.00062 = 2.9803 BTC [+]
Dec 20 11:09:20 <jcpham>	or i can just read and practice restraint
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Dec 20 11:09:43 <thestringpuller>	holy shit
Dec 20 11:09:48 <jcpham>	i don't actually have to contribute to absorb it all
Dec 20 11:09:49 <thestringpuller>	dude they made a chip
Dec 20 11:09:58 <thestringpuller>	that can take DNA gene slices
Dec 20 11:10:04 <thestringpuller>	and synthesize proteins
Dec 20 11:10:07 <thestringpuller>	HOLY FUCK
Dec 20 11:10:23 <jcpham>	i think sequencing is now like 98% accurate
Dec 20 11:10:38 <jcpham>	from nothing to human
Dec 20 11:10:46 <Bugpowder>	not really
Dec 20 11:11:03 <jcpham>	i thought i read the other day how they took sperm plus egg from different hosts
Dec 20 11:11:09 <jcpham>	and sequenced 98% of baby
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Dec 20 11:11:16 <Bugpowder>	what have they synthesized that has folded properly
Dec 20 11:11:26 <jcpham>	ic
Dec 20 11:11:33 <Bugpowder>	peptides sure
Dec 20 11:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder has it.
Dec 20 11:11:39 <jcpham>	i mis-read things
Dec 20 11:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	the folding is the big problem
Dec 20 11:12:10 <Bugpowder>	also how long?
Dec 20 11:12:19 <Bugpowder>	peptide synthesizers are great
Dec 20 11:12:21 <thestringpuller>	hold on tryig to find the article
Dec 20 11:12:29 <Bugpowder>	but you get a yield of 98% per step
Dec 20 11:12:29 <thestringpuller>	but it seems this device folds properly
Dec 20 11:12:48 <Bugpowder>	the right sequence can auto-fold in the right environment
Dec 20 11:12:54 <thestringpuller>	exactly
Dec 20 11:13:07 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: ^^^
Dec 20 11:13:09 <Bugpowder>	but synthesizing a 300AA string with any yield is not so easy
Dec 20 11:13:19 <Bugpowder>	;;calc .98^300
Dec 20 11:13:19 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Dec 20 11:13:25 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 0.98^300
Dec 20 11:13:26 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Dec 20 11:13:29 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 0.98 ^ 300
Dec 20 11:13:30 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Dec 20 11:13:34 <thestringpuller>	its ** I think
Dec 20 11:13:38 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 0.90 ** 300
Dec 20 11:13:39 <gribble>	0
Dec 20 11:13:41 <thestringpuller>	oops
Dec 20 11:13:43 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 20 11:13:45 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 0.98 ** 300
Dec 20 11:13:45 <gribble>	0.00233250566795
Dec 20 11:14:21 <mircea_popescu>	the 0 was funny
Dec 20 11:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00062 = 3.937 BTC [+]
Dec 20 11:15:38 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: http://www.media.mit.edu/molecular/HamadNature.pdf
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Dec 20 11:16:14 <thestringpuller>	the research spawned from that paper of what I'm talking about
Dec 20 11:19:37 <Bugpowder>	First red flag "The Media Laboratory
Dec 20 11:19:59 <Bugpowder>	Second red flag "Shuguang Zhang"
Dec 20 11:20:19 <Bugpowder>	He is a bit of a bullshitter
Dec 20 11:20:46 <thestringpuller>	hmmm
Dec 20 11:20:52 <thestringpuller>	I'm glad there is skepticism
Dec 20 11:20:59 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: you like the biology?
Dec 20 11:21:01 <thestringpuller>	:)
Dec 20 11:21:48 <Bugpowder>	I am a professional
Dec 20 11:21:53 <Bugpowder>	in a related field
Dec 20 11:21:58 <thestringpuller>	Ah which field?
Dec 20 11:22:03 <Bugpowder>	Worked at the media lab as an undergrad
Dec 20 11:22:35 <Bugpowder>	http://brainwindows.wordpress.com/about/
Dec 20 11:22:52 <Bugpowder>	So what have they demostrated now
Dec 20 11:24:23 <thestringpuller>	Ah you're into neuro science!
Dec 20 11:24:24 <thestringpuller>	Haha
Dec 20 11:24:57 <thestringpuller>	one of my friends is working for: http://www.axionbiosystems.com/ this coming semester
Dec 20 11:25:14 <Anduck>	what is it?
Dec 20 11:25:46 <thestringpuller>	neruo-electric interfacing?
Dec 20 11:25:53 <Anduck>	hmmm
Dec 20 11:25:57 <Anduck>	sorry i cant open links atm
Dec 20 11:26:15 <Anduck>	what possible uses are there for that?
Dec 20 11:26:15 <Bugpowder>	The maestro looks like a nice tool for screening new genetically encoded indicators
Dec 20 11:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah so EskimoBob is really an estonian undergrad with some bs archeology programme ?
Dec 20 11:26:35 <mircea_popescu>	lmao on the interwebs all the dogs don't know they're dogs anymore.
Dec 20 11:26:55 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: my respect for you has skyrocketed
Dec 20 11:27:14 <thestringpuller>	I have mad respect for those in Biology
Dec 20 11:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller he's a mouse brain surgeon.
Dec 20 11:27:50 <thestringpuller>	because mouse brains are in abundance...
Dec 20 11:28:07 <Anduck>	hmmmm
Dec 20 11:29:27 <Bugpowder>	There aren't that many cool applications for these arrays in a dish though.  the brain isn't flat
Dec 20 11:29:43 <Bugpowder>	and brain slices are dying and have no connections to other areas
Dec 20 11:29:48 <thestringpuller>	yea, axion is still a startup
Dec 20 11:29:56 <thestringpuller>	it's for mainly pure research purposes
Dec 20 11:30:06 <Bugpowder>	the most interesting stuff you can do with the MEAs is studying retina
Dec 20 11:30:11 <Bugpowder>	since it lays flat
Dec 20 11:30:33 <Bugpowder>	for example http://chichilnisky.salk.edu/technology/index.html
Dec 20 11:31:17 <Bugpowder>	This company makes some useful stuff.
Dec 20 11:31:18 <Bugpowder>	http://www.neuronexustech.com
Dec 20 11:31:37 <Bugpowder>	you can record from many sites in the awake behaving brain
Dec 20 11:31:48 <Bugpowder>	silicon probes
Dec 20 11:32:10 <Bugpowder>	I have used them and also done some custom design work in house
Dec 20 11:32:21 <Bugpowder>	hence, not optimistic about ASIC delivery windows
Dec 20 11:32:30 <Bugpowder>	:-P
Dec 20 11:32:35 <thestringpuller>	well you know how chips are made
Dec 20 11:32:37 <Bugpowder>	different set of issues though.
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Dec 20 11:32:40 <thestringpuller>	how much time goes into them
Dec 20 11:32:43 <thestringpuller>	for an IC
Dec 20 11:33:07 <Bugpowder>	just getting the probes off the chip and flat took over a year of refinement
Dec 20 11:33:17 <Bugpowder>	balancing the stress levels of each layer
Dec 20 11:33:25 <thestringpuller>	how much were the NRE costs initially?
Dec 20 11:33:40 <Bugpowder>	not sure if that would be an issue with commerical ASICs though
Dec 20 11:34:00 <Bugpowder>	$200k
Dec 20 11:34:18 <Bugpowder>	There is a new project that is going to do much more advanced probes with a $5M budget
Dec 20 11:34:28 <thestringpuller>	Damn son.
Dec 20 11:34:32 <Bugpowder>	collab between several funding agencys
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Dec 20 11:34:42 <Bugpowder>	hope I get my hands on them
Dec 20 11:34:42 <thestringpuller>	I hope ASICS don't completely flop
Dec 20 11:34:47 <thestringpuller>	it's gonna tank the BTC
Dec 20 11:34:53 <Bugpowder>	why?
Dec 20 11:35:00 <thestringpuller>	it makes us all look bad?
Dec 20 11:35:32 <Anduck>	asics wont flop
Dec 20 11:35:37 <Anduck>	or well they can but in the end, nah
Dec 20 11:35:50 <Anduck>	it's totally possible to make an asic
Dec 20 11:36:05 <Anduck>	but might take time if there isnt some very good hw makers making one
Dec 20 11:36:07 <Bugpowder>	i agregg
Dec 20 11:36:10 <Bugpowder>	agree
Dec 20 11:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00062 = 5.952 BTC [+]
Dec 20 11:36:35 <Bugpowder>	if you have the funding, you can get it done, eventually
Dec 20 11:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	the ideal situation would have been for 2-3-4 companies coming to market within weeks
Dec 20 11:36:39 <Anduck>	afaik there are some stuff current btc-asic makers are fighting
Dec 20 11:36:45 <Anduck>	Bugpowder: indeed
Dec 20 11:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	that is not going to happen with the sort of muppets doing it
Dec 20 11:36:48 <Anduck>	well
Dec 20 11:36:51 <Anduck>	there will be none in a month
Dec 20 11:36:52 <Anduck>	trust me
Dec 20 11:36:54 <mircea_popescu>	the next best is nobody coming to market.
Dec 20 11:37:00 <Anduck>	they dont even have the chips
Dec 20 11:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck i meant within weeks of each other, not within weeks of now
Dec 20 11:37:27 <Anduck>	ahh
Dec 20 11:37:29 <Anduck>	yeah
Dec 20 11:37:32 <Anduck>	yeah
Dec 20 11:37:35 <Anduck>	hmmm brb
Dec 20 11:37:38 <Anduck>	gotta swap train
Dec 20 11:37:38 <Anduck>	xD
Dec 20 11:37:51 <Anduck>	almost missed this train cuz of traffic
Dec 20 11:38:13 <Anduck>	ill be bach in a sec to talk bout asics n stuff
Dec 20 11:38:22 <thestringpuller>	we need to infiltrate more markets
Dec 20 11:39:07 <thestringpuller>	we spend too much time robbing each other why not just rob a really rich person
Dec 20 11:39:12 <thestringpuller>	and dump all that into BTC?
Dec 20 11:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00062 = 3.255 BTC [+]
Dec 20 11:40:29 <jurov>	thestringpuller, was it you who bitched about some rich friends that can't be convinced to go btc and instead smoke weed?
Dec 20 11:40:49 <thestringpuller>	YESSIR
Dec 20 11:40:55 <thestringpuller>	who do you think I'm going to rob
Dec 20 11:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller : the 1bn dollar plan.
Dec 20 11:41:40 <gigavps>	;;bc,diffchange
Dec 20 11:41:42 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -13.2747973704 % based on data since last change | -15.1045589685 % based on data for last three days
Dec 20 11:41:54 <gigavps>	;;bc,stats
Dec 20 11:41:56 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 212920 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 775 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 29 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2922796.99440957 | Estimated Percent Change: -13.2747973704
Dec 20 11:42:07 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;quote=1411617;topic=82866.80;num_replies=91;sesc=9cd7069be27b1da97ed8dfd6976381c6 :)
Dec 20 11:42:11 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: how do we get 1bn into BTC besides robbing someone? this is taking too long
Dec 20 11:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	just, rich person puts a wall on mtgox, 5mn btc demanded at 200
Dec 20 11:42:33 *	Anduck has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
Dec 20 11:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	that's the end of it, btc will never be under 3-400 after that.
Dec 20 11:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	he gets his 2-3 mn and a 50% ROI to go along with it.
Dec 20 11:43:02 <jurov>	Ukto, are you trying to post to btctalk as someone else or?
Dec 20 11:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile at the kitchen table : "i swear to god this soup makes me blush"
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Dec 20 11:44:20 <thestringpuller>	that should be a business or a foundation
Dec 20 11:44:38 <thestringpuller>	the 1bn foundation (rich people give us your money so we can make a bidwall, promising 50% ROI)
Dec 20 11:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	no
Dec 20 11:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	it has t obe a rich guy sorta like me
Dec 20 11:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	aka, couldn't care less about anyone else.
Dec 20 11:45:17 <Ukto>	jurov: do they get enough readers?
Dec 20 11:45:37 <jurov>	who they?
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Dec 20 11:45:45 <Ukto>	btctalk or elsewhere
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Dec 20 11:46:11 <jurov>	Ukto i got several times more visits from reddit than btctalk
Dec 20 11:46:21 <Anduck>	on what?
Dec 20 11:46:35 *	Ukto bluit's
Dec 20 11:48:00 <jurov>	well, i still don't know exactly what is ukto asking about
Dec 20 11:48:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: why don't you care about anyone?
Dec 20 11:48:10 <jurov>	just thrown in some observation for coinbr
Dec 20 11:48:13 <thestringpuller>	are you John Galt?
Dec 20 11:48:18 <Ukto>	[10:45] <jurov> Ukto, are you trying to post to btctalk as someone else or?
Dec 20 11:48:23 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> smickles: ^^^ seems possible to short even before the div's have paid<<< indeed
Dec 20 11:48:29 <Ukto>	I was just responding asking its worth it
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Dec 20 11:48:39 <jurov>	Ukto I was talking about the link you posted
Dec 20 11:48:53 <jurov>	it smell like request forgery or whatever it's called
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Dec 20 11:49:10 <Ukto>	wtf
Dec 20 11:49:20 <Ukto>	stupid forums linkerary
Dec 20 11:49:33 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82866.msg1411617#msg1411617
Dec 20 11:49:37 <Ukto>	there, last line of his post :)
Dec 20 11:50:06 <jurov>	ook
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Dec 20 11:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i meant in the "o, what will they think what will they say will they agree" sense.
Dec 20 11:51:33 <Anduck>	sooo back to asics
Dec 20 11:51:51 <Anduck>	whatcha guess, when will the first one be ready?
Dec 20 11:52:01 <Anduck>	remember, they need to make asics, put them on a board and program the whole thing for it
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Dec 20 11:55:07 <thestringpuller>	oh mircea_popescu you "dgaf"
Dec 20 11:55:13 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: lets his balls hang out
Dec 20 11:55:17 <thestringpuller>	keeps it real like a reall nigga
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Dec 20 11:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck im pretty sure asics will be delivered by a company
Dec 20 11:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	as opposed to the current dramawhores.
Dec 20 11:56:50 <Anduck>	yeah they will
Dec 20 11:58:21 <thestringpuller>	the company will need initial funding and not preorders
Dec 20 11:58:51 <thestringpuller>	the design needs to be done before announcement time and the fabrication needs to be happening before a ship date is even conceived
Dec 20 11:59:16 <thestringpuller>	BFL let their PR get out of hand and they are probably blowing money on expensive cars and shit
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Dec 20 12:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6428 @ 0.00062 = 3.9854 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 12:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00351012 = 2.8292 BTC [+]
Dec 20 12:09:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 244 @ 0.00351012 = 0.8565 BTC [+]
Dec 20 12:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00353878 = 2.8523 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 12:12:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1394 @ 0.00353878 = 4.9331 BTC [+]
Dec 20 12:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 376 @ 0.00355273 = 1.3358 BTC [+]
Dec 20 12:14:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6 @ 0.00355273 = 0.0213 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 12:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 12:21:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062 = 3.1 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 12:26:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]
Dec 20 12:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00062 = 7.316 BTC [+]
Dec 20 12:30:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062 = 4.898 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 12:33:03 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 20 12:33:10 <thestringpuller>	nickserv
Dec 20 12:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00062 = 8.68 BTC [+]
Dec 20 12:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	graham is insane
Dec 20 12:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	he rants about how 3/4 of their "10 bn" was made by airbnb and some other shit site
Dec 20 12:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	what's this airbnb ? this https://www.airbnb.com/
Dec 20 12:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	there's one user on the site, and that's me.
Dec 20 12:35:39 <mircea_popescu>	what does it do ? rent rooms from people.
Dec 20 12:38:30 <Diablo-D3>	I have discovered the most wrong thing on youtube ever
Dec 20 12:38:34 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcfKieawVUQ
Dec 20 12:39:19 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3 !
Dec 20 12:39:24 <Anduck>	that is so rong
Dec 20 12:39:25 <Anduck>	BUT
Dec 20 12:39:31 <Anduck>	i had some BFL-FAIL shares of yours
Dec 20 12:39:36 <Anduck>	will ya pay !
Dec 20 12:39:49 <Diablo-D3>	nefario hasnt published the goddamned fucking list yet
Dec 20 12:39:57 <Diablo-D3>	the fucking 30 some BTC is sitting right here waiting to go
Dec 20 12:40:08 <Anduck>	well
Dec 20 12:40:18 <Anduck>	he did tell me how much i had shares
Dec 20 12:40:25 <Anduck>	they published the list atleast of some shares, right?
Dec 20 12:40:25 <Diablo-D3>	yes, but he didnt tell me
Dec 20 12:40:29 <Diablo-D3>	nope
Dec 20 12:40:38 <Diablo-D3>	he did DMC but not di.bflsc yet
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Dec 20 12:40:53 <Anduck>	ok
Dec 20 12:41:04 <Anduck>	but..!! i won
Dec 20 12:41:04 <Anduck>	xD
Dec 20 12:41:12 <Anduck>	i just asked nefario if i happened to have some shares
Dec 20 12:41:16 <Anduck>	i had forgot i had ASICMINER
Dec 20 12:41:27 <Diablo-D3>	a lot of people won. a LOT of people lost, and they didnt even own success shares
Dec 20 12:41:33 <Anduck>	i only thought i have a little BFL-fail and BITVPS
Dec 20 12:41:46 <Diablo-D3>	trollgrin.jpg
Dec 20 12:41:52 <Anduck>	yup
Dec 20 12:42:04 <Anduck>	=)
Dec 20 12:42:06 <Diablo-D3>	re asicminer, friedcat is just going to launch his own exchange
Dec 20 12:42:28 <Anduck>	really? ok
Dec 20 12:42:34 <Anduck>	do u have any ASICMINER shars
Dec 20 12:42:34 <Anduck>	??
Dec 20 12:42:49 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Dec 20 12:42:56 <mod6>	(09:33) < thestringpuller> nickserv
Dec 20 12:42:59 <mod6>	bingo
Dec 20 12:43:15 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: aight
Dec 20 12:43:23 <Anduck>	do u have any BFL, DD3?
Dec 20 12:43:43 <thestringpuller>	mod6: what up
Dec 20 12:43:48 <thestringpuller>	I have stuff for you
Dec 20 12:43:50 <thestringpuller>	well sort of
Dec 20 12:43:58 <Anduck>	thestringpuller are you the puppet master?
Dec 20 12:44:01 <thestringpuller>	some design analysis after talking with Vorhees
Dec 20 12:44:03 <Diablo-D3>	Anduck: NO ONE HAS ANY BFL, DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
Dec 20 12:44:08 <thestringpuller>	Anduck: no it's a reference to the godfather
Dec 20 12:44:18 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: happy christmas man!
Dec 20 12:44:26 <Anduck>	thestringpuller: aight
Dec 20 12:44:28 <smickles>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcfKieawVUQ&t=3m
Dec 20 12:44:30 <smickles>	:o
Dec 20 12:45:22 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 20 12:46:27 <Anduck>	that's that
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Dec 20 12:48:40 <mod6>	thestringpuller: just workin.
Dec 20 12:48:57 <mod6>	actually, im about to run out and see if I can get my new phone.
Dec 20 12:49:12 <mod6>	i hate the cell companies. vzw are a bunch of savages.
Dec 20 12:49:23 <mod6>	anyway, wish me luck.  bbs :)
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Dec 20 12:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/lets-have-fun-with-paul-graham/
Dec 20 12:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15792 @ 0.00062 = 9.791 BTC [+]
Dec 20 12:59:40 <smickles>	It’s trading at 27 now, and the only way it ever touches IPO levels is through the continued good orifices of Fairy Godmother Bernanke.
Dec 20 13:00:04 <smickles>	must have some good holes
Dec 20 13:00:27 <thestringpuller>	what is trading at 27?
Dec 20 13:00:47 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu - not a fan of ycombinator lol
Dec 20 13:01:09 <mircea_popescu>	not anymore
Dec 20 13:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	used to like graham 10 years ago, but by now he sounds like a stuffed manequin
Dec 20 13:01:43 <thestringpuller>	oh facebook at 27
Dec 20 13:01:49 <thestringpuller>	that was due to aapl losing money
Dec 20 13:02:01 <thestringpuller>	people took money out of aapl and put it into fb and rim
Dec 20 13:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	it is due to the fact facebook is lame.
Dec 20 13:02:10 <mircea_popescu>	it's just myspace redux.
Dec 20 13:02:18 <thestringpuller>	i was saying it being at 27
Dec 20 13:02:22 <thestringpuller>	it was at 14
Dec 20 13:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	a
Dec 20 13:02:27 <thestringpuller>	even lower
Dec 20 13:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	heh i recall when rimm was 140
Dec 20 13:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	and i was buying puts
Dec 20 13:02:37 <thestringpuller>	smart guy
Dec 20 13:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	then it was 60
Dec 20 13:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	i never saw puts worth 80 dollars each before.
Dec 20 13:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00062 = 2.108 BTC [+]
Dec 20 13:03:23 <thestringpuller>	the iPhone destroyed the BB market
Dec 20 13:03:29 <thestringpuller>	or at least disrupted it
Dec 20 13:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	it was just on the cusp
Dec 20 13:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	iphone wasn't released yet iirc
Dec 20 13:03:43 <thestringpuller>	ah
Dec 20 13:03:52 <thestringpuller>	this was "back in the day"
Dec 20 13:04:04 <Bugpowder>	I had almost totally blown up my account
Dec 20 13:04:08 <Bugpowder>	trading options
Dec 20 13:04:20 <Bugpowder>	was down to $500 in front month puts in RIMM
Dec 20 13:04:42 <Bugpowder>	then they dropped about $20 a day for three days in a row
Dec 20 13:04:45 <Bugpowder>	25x gain
Dec 20 13:04:51 <Bugpowder>	yesssss
Dec 20 13:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Dec 20 13:05:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00062 = 5.89 BTC [+]
Dec 20 13:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	those tyhree days were...
Dec 20 13:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	o god.
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Dec 20 13:06:25 <Bugpowder>	Somehow I lost all my money shorting the market with front month options in 2007 and 2008
Dec 20 13:06:31 <Bugpowder>	I mean... WTF
Dec 20 13:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	i very rarely used options.
Dec 20 13:06:50 <Bugpowder>	dendreon was glorius though
Dec 20 13:06:55 <mircea_popescu>	but i literally did not have enough capital to go as short on rimm as i wanted.
Dec 20 13:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	5 dollar 140 and 12 dollar 145 puts was much nicer than 4:1 margin on stock
Dec 20 13:07:57 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: so how many S.MPOE are floating around the market now, I see that therea are a little under 50mn for sale right now
Dec 20 13:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	smickles well the last announcement in nov i had 958mn iirc ?
Dec 20 13:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00062 = 5.549 BTC [+]
Dec 20 13:08:45 <Bugpowder>	I would just read Denninger's blog and be like, must buy puts on CFC, Downey
Dec 20 13:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 20 13:11:00 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: thoroughly mind numbing idiocy working its way towards the sitcom
Dec 20 13:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	at the time i soundly despised blogs
Dec 20 13:11:04 <thestringpuller>	it's funny because
Dec 20 13:11:08 <thestringpuller>	I'm working on a sitcom about startups
Dec 20 13:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 20 13:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	your sitcom can be either of two things : funny or successful.
Dec 20 13:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	but im pretty sure it'll be simply not picked.
Dec 20 13:11:59 <thestringpuller>	yea that's the way of television, but it's more for fun
Dec 20 13:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	i guess
Dec 20 13:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	if you mean fun in the sense of submissive women you'd be better off doing porn than daytime tv.
Dec 20 13:14:07 <thestringpuller>	it's a 15 minute spot for [adult swim]
Dec 20 13:15:05 <thestringpuller>	this is what paul graham makes me think of these days: http://vimeo.com/41960660
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Dec 20 13:17:39 <thestringpuller>	the funny thing about that clip is start up businesses really do that when they get their initial funding...
Dec 20 13:17:45 <thestringpuller>	which is not funny at all it's just scary
Dec 20 13:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	summary ? i don't have flahs.
Dec 20 13:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12853 @ 0.00062 = 7.9689 BTC [+]
Dec 20 13:19:24 <thestringpuller>	there are no words
Dec 20 13:19:25 <thestringpuller>	uh
Dec 20 13:19:29 <thestringpuller>	guys get lots of money
Dec 20 13:19:32 <thestringpuller>	set up business that makes no money
Dec 20 13:19:35 <thestringpuller>	lots of overhead
Dec 20 13:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	o that. yeah.
Dec 20 13:19:50 <mircea_popescu>	in btc it is called "going legit"
Dec 20 13:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	or else, the McStupidy gambit.
Dec 20 13:20:09 <thestringpuller>	and when I mean lots of overhead
Dec 20 13:20:17 <thestringpuller>	they hire a basketball player to sit around and shoot hoops all day
Dec 20 13:20:19 <thestringpuller>	for clients
Dec 20 13:20:22 <thestringpuller>	but they have no clients
Dec 20 13:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	myea
Dec 20 13:22:06 <thestringpuller>	dropbox is kinda cool though no?
Dec 20 13:22:31 <mircea_popescu>	cool it is
Dec 20 13:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	billion dollars ? why ?
Dec 20 13:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	imagine, i've never used it.
Dec 20 13:23:26 <thestringpuller>	you could create the same system locally using a an NFS share along with a few scripts
Dec 20 13:23:32 <thestringpuller>	so no, not worht billion
Dec 20 13:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	for that matter, any webhost does what they do
Dec 20 13:24:58 <mircea_popescu>	you make yourself a site and upload there.
Dec 20 13:25:01 <thestringpuller>	XD
Dec 20 13:25:11 <thestringpuller>	Facebook paid my tuition though
Dec 20 13:25:21 <thestringpuller>	well I guess put contracts paid my tuition...
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Dec 20 13:26:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00062 = 3.41 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 13:27:09 <thestringpuller>	how does BTC infiltrate the physical market mr. popescu?
Dec 20 13:28:19 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't.
Dec 20 13:28:34 <mircea_popescu>	it gradually but graciously allows that market to use it.
Dec 20 13:28:49 <thestringpuller>	so what will support BTC? digital goods?
Dec 20 13:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	Google used to give me a page of the right answers, fast, with no clutter. Now the results seem inspired by the Scientologist principle that what's true is what's true for you. And the pages don't have the clean, sparse feel they used to. Google search results used to look like the output of a Unix utility. Now if I accidentally put the cursor in the wrong place, anything might happen.
Dec 20 13:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	The way to win here is to build the search engine all the hackers use. A search engine whose users consisted of the top 10,000 hackers and no one else would be in a very powerful position despite its small size, just as Google was when it was that search engine.
Dec 20 13:29:29 <mircea_popescu>	simple point of fact.
Dec 20 13:29:42 <mircea_popescu>	me being here, a few others being here is what supports btc.
Dec 20 13:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	rest doesn't matter.
Dec 20 13:30:01 <thestringpuller>	support is the wrong phrase
Dec 20 13:30:07 <thestringpuller>	word*
Dec 20 13:30:09 <thestringpuller>	grow*
Dec 20 13:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	why do you care if it grows ?
Dec 20 13:30:26 <thestringpuller>	would be more like it how does it grow
Dec 20 13:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 319 @ 0.00350838 = 1.1192 BTC [-]
Dec 20 13:30:55 <thestringpuller>	it provides more opportunities
Dec 20 13:31:02 <thestringpuller>	it locks out stupid people
Dec 20 13:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	ugh.
Dec 20 13:31:43 <thestringpuller>	I'm looking at it wrong I suppose.
Dec 20 13:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	possibly. succes is always the sound of the cool kids club going to shit.
Dec 20 13:33:21 <mircea_popescu>	and it's inevitable in the sense all decay is inevitable
Dec 20 13:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	so if you really want success, just make cool kids clubs.
Dec 20 13:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	they'd better be REAL cool as opposed to the play=pretend, circle-jerk, self-granted cool any backwater town kids bestow upon each other for lack of alternatives.
Dec 20 13:34:11 <thestringpuller>	but then nothing gets done
Dec 20 13:34:33 <mircea_popescu>	what's this, a fastfood joint ?
Dec 20 13:35:31 <thestringpuller>	heh, I'm a scientist I would rather see money in the hands of people like Bugpowder
Dec 20 13:35:41 <thestringpuller>	i would rather fund science
Dec 20 13:35:46 <thestringpuller>	even if it doesn't bring immediate returns
Dec 20 13:36:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 106 @ 0.0035 = 0.371 BTC [-]
Dec 20 13:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 894 @ 0.00349819 = 3.1274 BTC [-]
Dec 20 13:36:41 <thestringpuller>	http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2088#comic
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Dec 20 13:52:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 14:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062 = 1.55 BTC [+]
Dec 20 14:04:54 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (14 - 12) / 14
Dec 20 14:04:54 <gribble>	0.142857142857
Dec 20 14:05:13 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (14.50 - 12) / 14.50
Dec 20 14:05:14 <gribble>	0.172413793103
Dec 20 14:06:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00062 = 2.604 BTC [+]
Dec 20 14:23:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00062 = 5.828 BTC [+]
Dec 20 14:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.60
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Dec 20 14:40:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
Dec 20 14:47:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00062 = 6.045 BTC [+]
Dec 20 14:49:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]
Dec 20 14:51:20 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 20 14:51:22 <Ukto>	been woring on it
Dec 20 14:51:28 <Ukto>	I caused it :P
Dec 20 14:51:30 <Ukto>	so I knew it was comming
Dec 20 14:54:42 <iz>	what ever happened w/ pirate and btcst?  did anyone ever sue him or whatever?
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Dec 20 14:55:04 <kakobrekla>	he paid yesterday.
Dec 20 14:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	yesterday
Dec 20 14:55:39 <mod6>	lol
Dec 20 14:55:43 <mircea_popescu>	pirate seemed such an easy game to play
Dec 20 14:55:46 <mod6>	i thought mircea_popescu was just fucking with you all
Dec 20 14:55:58 <iz>	haha, wait.. no.. not really?  really?
Dec 20 14:56:00 <mircea_popescu>	now he's gone...
Dec 20 14:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONXp-vpE9eU
Dec 20 14:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00062 = 2.387 BTC [+]
Dec 20 15:01:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2036 @ 0.00350019 = 7.1264 BTC [+]
Dec 20 15:02:27 <kakobrekla>	very appropriate lyrics
Dec 20 15:02:27 <mod6>	(13:07) < mircea_popescu> o so pirate paid ?
Dec 20 15:02:42 <mod6>	I thought this was a total joke. ^^^
Dec 20 15:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	he paid in milk.
Dec 20 15:02:45 <kakobrekla>	sums it up nicley :)
Dec 20 15:02:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35095 @ 0.00062 = 21.7589 BTC [+]
Dec 20 15:03:18 <mod6>	so he paid up with all the account holders?  everyone still got screwed via the bonds though.
Dec 20 15:04:43 <mod6>	lol @ vid
Dec 20 15:05:01 <mod6>	YESTERDAY, ALL MY BTC SEEMED SO FAR AWAY
Dec 20 15:05:09 <mod6>	NOW IT LOOKS AS THOUGH PIRATE PAID
Dec 20 15:05:14 <mod6>	SO I BELIEVE IN YESTERDAY
Dec 20 15:05:39 <mod6>	:D
Dec 20 15:06:54 <mod6>	(that last part was a joke - I never gave pirate or btc&st anything)
Dec 20 15:07:07 <thestringpuller>	mod6
Dec 20 15:07:18 <mod6>	hey whats up man
Dec 20 15:07:22 <EskimoBob>	LOL, looks like the bitcointalk retards have opened a comedy club
Dec 20 15:07:32 <thestringpuller>	we should have a meeting soon
Dec 20 15:07:49 <EskimoBob>	I was laughing so hard that I had tears in my eyes. At least they are entertaining
Dec 20 15:08:19 <thestringpuller>	im always on my phone or driving when you are online
Dec 20 15:08:25 <mod6>	Yes, good deal thestringpuller.  Hmm.. I gotta check and see if I can squeeze in like an hour here... one sec.
Dec 20 15:09:45 <mod6>	haha. im usually around, but yeah.
Dec 20 15:10:56 <mod6>	I can take an hour after the next 50 minutes. I gotta prepare a bit for this IBM call I've got at 4.
Dec 20 15:11:01 <mod6>	im on CDT
Dec 20 15:11:21 <mod6>	does that work? otherwise sometime later tonight is fine too.
Dec 20 15:12:29 <thestringpuller>	so 1400 EST?
Dec 20 15:13:28 <mod6>	lets see... it would be 16:00 EST
Dec 20 15:13:39 <mod6>	that I'm availble, i have my call at 16:00 CDT
Dec 20 15:14:07 <mod6>	No sweat, i'll come back here in a bit and try to find ya.
Dec 20 15:14:38 <thestringpuller>	i meant is 1400 good to meet?
Dec 20 15:14:52 <thestringpuller>	i will not driving then
Dec 20 15:17:36 <thestringpuller>	be drivig*
Dec 20 15:17:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062 = 6.076 BTC [+]
Dec 20 15:22:03 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 20 15:22:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.52003, Best ask: 13.60699, Bid-ask spread: 0.08696, Last trade: 13.52003, 24 hour volume: 34745.59293995, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.51611
Dec 20 15:28:11 <dub>	so pirate paid back, ewxpect a big sell off, time to get in first before teh panic
Dec 20 15:28:24 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Dec 20 15:28:31 <mircea_popescu>	i thought the panic is because of the quantum asics
Dec 20 15:28:58 <dub>	that too
Dec 20 15:29:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00062 = 14.043 BTC [+]
Dec 20 15:29:24 <dub>	I want my $10 xmas bitcoins goddamit
Dec 20 15:30:18 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131778.0
Dec 20 15:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	it is incredible how retarded the forum is
Dec 20 15:30:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062 = 2.914 BTC [+]
Dec 20 15:31:03 <Anduck>	well
Dec 20 15:31:41 <EskimoBob>	you have no idea. I was just reading what The Augustocroppo was writing. I mean, this guy.... fuuuuck :)
Dec 20 15:36:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24678951 = 246.7895 BTC [-]
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Dec 20 15:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00062 = 5.611 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 15:58:27 <smickles>	jurov: you about?
Dec 20 15:58:40 <jurov>	yes?
Dec 20 15:58:55 <Ukto>	..
Dec 20 15:58:59 <Ukto>	what exactly, are you about?
Dec 20 15:59:00 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 20 15:59:31 <smickles>	does mpexagent return an ordernumber when it places an order on mpex?
Dec 20 16:00:02 <jurov>	no, it would have to create one
Dec 20 16:00:26 <thestringpuller>	smickles: did you get receipt of my deposit?
Dec 20 16:00:27 <jurov>	you have to call statjson and match the order later
Dec 20 16:00:37 <smickles>	how do you associate mpexagent orders with their mpex counterparts to cancel them when desired?
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Dec 20 16:00:47 <smickles>	:P
Dec 20 16:01:04 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yes, I take it that I didn't notify you of that?
Dec 20 16:01:44 <smickles>	jurov: I was hoping that you had it all in one simpe function which i could draw inspiration from :|
Dec 20 16:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7896 @ 0.00062 = 4.8955 BTC [+]
Dec 20 16:02:02 <jurov>	that code is not in mpexagent, it's cinbr secret sauce
Dec 20 16:02:09 <smickles>	bah, figures
Dec 20 16:02:40 <smickles>	can I see it an buy it off of you if it fits my needs?
Dec 20 16:02:47 <jurov>	yes
Dec 20 16:02:57 <smickles>	what would you charge?
Dec 20 16:03:14 <thestringpuller>	whoa buying code
Dec 20 16:03:17 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 20 16:03:33 <thestringpuller>	am i seeing a code for btc transaction about go down
Dec 20 16:03:37 <jurov>	99BTC :P
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Dec 20 16:03:48 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i've made hundreds of btc off of similar things
Dec 20 16:04:31 <smickles>	meh, I know what I need to do, the fee for copy/pasting most of it seems too high to me jurov ;)
Dec 20 16:05:31 <smickles>	thestringpuller: a while ago I wrote an elliot wave based multiexchange+bitcoinica trade bot
Dec 20 16:05:42 <smickles>	it was worth a lot to some people
Dec 20 16:06:34 <smickles>	and the guy selling it for me sold a bunch more copies than he told me about, so I could've made a lot more too :/
Dec 20 16:06:35 <jurov>	well, maybe you'll come back in 2 months, with foul cries about quantum order waveforms
Dec 20 16:06:55 <Ukto>	jurov: your supposed to compile it, and sell recurring licensing
Dec 20 16:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]
Dec 20 16:06:58 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 20 16:06:58 <smickles>	jurov: I promised only 6 months of support
Dec 20 16:07:16 <smickles>	heh, jurov sry, misread that
Dec 20 16:08:20 <jurov>	no, seriously. we can make an agreement, but i won't release it cheapy
Dec 20 16:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller> whoa buying code <<< MPEx has built an ecosystem
Dec 20 16:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	i win.
Dec 20 16:08:53 <mod6>	:]
Dec 20 16:09:26 *	mircea_popescu waits for deals to complete then changes everything
Dec 20 16:10:40 <jurov>	* will raise fee to 10BTC/hr for consulting then
Dec 20 16:11:07 <smickles>	jurov: I just want the one part that fetches an order number from a recently placed order, I don't think that's worth 99btc
Dec 20 16:11:44 <smickles>	it's probably better for me to write it myself anyway
Dec 20 16:11:51 <jurov>	but that's actually largest part of it
Dec 20 16:12:01 <smickles>	'cause i'd have to adapt your code to my bot
Dec 20 16:12:05 <jurov>	thx to mircea
Dec 20 16:12:16 <smickles>	heh, i suppose so, isn't it
Dec 20 16:12:28 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: why doesn't it return an order no?
Dec 20 16:12:29 <jurov>	because it is likely the order never got an id and got executed instead
Dec 20 16:12:34 <mod6>	it does
Dec 20 16:12:42 <smickles>	:o
Dec 20 16:12:52 <mod6>	when you place any order, it returns the order number in the reciept
Dec 20 16:12:59 <mod6>	everytime
Dec 20 16:13:02 <smickles>	have I just not noticed this?
Dec 20 16:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	it does ?
Dec 20 16:13:10 <mod6>	wait...
Dec 20 16:13:15 <mod6>	oh ur right.
Dec 20 16:13:18 <mod6>	sorry, its only in the STAT
Dec 20 16:13:27 <smickles>	zatcly
Dec 20 16:13:41 <mod6>	it does return a statement of what order was placed though.
Dec 20 16:13:50 <mod6>	but yeah, no number. but this was by design.
Dec 20 16:14:01 <mod6>	to eliminate some HFT type stuff right?
Dec 20 16:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	not exactly. the system you're talking to has no idea/not the authority to know what order id the order will get or how will be executed
Dec 20 16:14:41 <mircea_popescu>	and as the entire thing is stateless the only thing you can do is examine the state later
Dec 20 16:16:13 <mod6>	ok.. i see.
Dec 20 16:16:28 <mod6>	My original plan here was just to display the order id's through the JSONSTAT
Dec 20 16:16:36 <mod6>	maybe jurov's is simialr?
Dec 20 16:16:39 <mod6>	*similar
Dec 20 16:17:07 <jurov>	mod6, you have to gather transactions, subtract them from the order you placed if they match
Dec 20 16:17:14 <smickles>	I wonder if i can get away with a 'cancel the order that looks sorta-kinda like <this>' function
Dec 20 16:17:20 <jurov>	and *then* matche the order with the list
Dec 20 16:17:38 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: this is why mpoebot places orders for limited time, isn't it
Dec 20 16:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Dec 20 16:18:02 <mod6>	orders can have expiry's or not
Dec 20 16:18:15 <mod6>	or is that different?
Dec 20 16:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... it'd be in any case more effiicent to place limited time orders given that the bot knows how often it runs
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Dec 20 16:19:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00062 = 2.263 BTC [+]
Dec 20 16:20:43 <smickles>	bah, i would be satisfied with buying mpbor, but I suspect the thing i'm writing will be more profitabled
Dec 20 16:20:49 <smickles>	-d
Dec 20 16:21:18 <smickles>	i need to backtest it
Dec 20 16:21:23 <jurov>	incidentally, i just met a friend who want to do hft bot
Dec 20 16:21:41 <jurov>	he was enraged with mircea's anti-hft preacutions
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Dec 20 16:22:09 <smickles>	what? like no liquidity-adder rebate?
Dec 20 16:22:20 <smickles>	isn't that how hft makes most of its money?
Dec 20 16:22:34 <jurov>	no, the slow order placing/cancellation
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Dec 20 16:23:10 <mod6>	yeah HFT would make me leave mpex
Dec 20 16:23:19 <mod6>	because i don't want to fight a fucking bot to place an order
Dec 20 16:23:49 <mod6>	that article on ZH really blew my mind. i'd be like fuck it. market tis brok3d.
Dec 20 16:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00062 = 8.091 BTC [+]
Dec 20 16:24:48 <mod6>	everything that can be done to preserve the organic market of mpex should be
Dec 20 16:25:37 <mod6>	it may possibly be the only real market in the world, even guys in nyc or chicago trading pits have to combat these HFTs
Dec 20 16:25:42 <smickles>	well, damn, i don't think I can put off order number fetching any longer
Dec 20 16:25:45 <mod6>	they hate it too
Dec 20 16:26:41 <jurov>	cue that boromir meme "you don't simply fetch order number in mpex"
Dec 20 16:26:49 <smickles>	lol
Dec 20 16:28:10 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: would you not like it if I had a ~500 iteration loop which called statjson until it saw the order pop up, if at the end of the 500 iteration it haddn't, it would just assume it got executed?
Dec 20 16:28:34 <jurov>	smickles, what i'm trying to explain, you have to account for transactions
Dec 20 16:28:56 <jurov>	cause if half the order gets executed, only other half get an ID
Dec 20 16:29:39 <smickles>	jurov: I know, but I'll be putting only one order up at a time, so if anything shows up with that mpsic, that's it
Dec 20 16:30:26 <jurov>	ah, then okay. but you still have to filter txs from previous orders.
Dec 20 16:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> no, the slow order placing/cancellation << order placing isn't slow ?
Dec 20 16:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	it's fast!
Dec 20 16:31:02 <jurov>	yes! it shows in statjson in only 2 to 20 seconds !
Dec 20 16:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	<mod6> it may possibly be the only real market in the world, even guys in nyc or chicago trading pits have to combat these HFTs <<< i know. atm i actually do have an edge over nyse/etc.
Dec 20 16:31:26 <mircea_popescu>	jurov doesn't mean it's not there tho :)
Dec 20 16:31:40 <smickles>	bah, complications.
Dec 20 16:31:46 <jurov>	ofc. for certain value of "fast".
Dec 20 16:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	the twitter to assbot latency is larger  than the mpex.co to order queue latency by a degree of magnitude
Dec 20 16:33:03 <jurov>	like i'm using assbot...puhlease
Dec 20 16:33:13 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: i agree. If I was there in the pits and my client called me to place a market order immediately and i was being front run by an algo, i'd go banananas.
Dec 20 16:33:29 <smickles>	it seems, i'll stat, order, stat for diff untill i can reasonably assume that it was fully filled
Dec 20 16:33:50 <mod6>	ahem *bananas
Dec 20 16:33:59 <mod6>	:D
Dec 20 16:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 20 16:34:13 <jurov>	yes, just that code that can "reasonably assume" it is far from trivial.
Dec 20 16:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00062 = 12.958 BTC [+]
Dec 20 16:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00062 = 2.666 BTC [+]
Dec 20 16:35:50 <jurov>	w00t all promotional shares of CoinBr.MPBPT shares sold :P
Dec 20 16:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	so you got 100 btc ?
Dec 20 16:36:14 <jurov>	50 so far
Dec 20 16:36:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00062 = 6.355 BTC [+]
Dec 20 16:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	lmao she posted her feet
Dec 20 16:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaha
Dec 20 16:36:46 <smickles>	what, like to /r/feet?
Dec 20 16:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97272.msg1411280#msg1411280
Dec 20 16:38:31 <jurov>	no hair?
Dec 20 16:38:40 <jurov>	i'm disappointed
Dec 20 16:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	apparently not a real troll
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Dec 20 16:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10451 @ 0.00062 = 6.4796 BTC [+]
Dec 20 16:45:03 <jurov>	nobody wants teh codez. cheapskates.
Dec 20 16:45:29 <mircea_popescu>	icecubes in alaska
Dec 20 16:45:34 <mircea_popescu>	you need to sell it to some bank
Dec 20 16:46:17 <jurov>	them scammers? never
Dec 20 16:47:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6067 @ 0.00062 = 3.7615 BTC [+]
Dec 20 16:53:09 <jurov>	really, if a bank approached me for that.. that would blow me off
Dec 20 16:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	why would it approach you ?
Dec 20 16:56:15 <mircea_popescu>	they have no way of knowing you exist, not like socgen trolls irc
Dec 20 16:57:46 <jurov>	so you meant it the other way around? me going to the bank, offering interface to that mpex thing?
Dec 20 16:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	sooner or later they'll be desperate to interface.
Dec 20 16:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's when what you learned fucking with it will command 10btc/hour
Dec 20 17:00:48 <jurov>	yeah, i'd be rather be fucking with something else, but that will be, too.
Dec 20 17:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5395 @ 0.00062 = 3.3449 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 17:07:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062 = 4.34 BTC [+]
Dec 20 17:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10490 @ 0.00062 = 6.5038 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 17:14:54 <jurov>	https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/46399_233110583489421_1490839577_n.jpg
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Dec 20 17:17:30 <thestringpuller>	its 12 21 in new zealand already so, uh whatever
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Dec 20 17:26:55 <Bugpowder>	;ticker
Dec 20 17:27:02 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 20 17:27:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.58001, Best ask: 13.63999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05998, Last trade: 13.56001, 24 hour volume: 36180.25779632, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.52947
Dec 20 17:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 17:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00062 = 4.867 BTC [+]
Dec 20 17:38:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00062 = 2.852 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 17:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00062 = 2.883 BTC [+]
Dec 20 17:55:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 320 @ 0.18066152 = 57.8117 BTC [-]
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Dec 20 17:59:37 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 20 17:59:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.57214, Best ask: 13.59090, Bid-ask spread: 0.01876, Last trade: 13.57214, 24 hour volume: 37126.85270592, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.53985
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Dec 20 18:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00062 = 2.232 BTC [+]
Dec 20 18:13:05 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 20 18:13:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.58001, Best ask: 13.59900, Bid-ask spread: 0.01899, Last trade: 13.59890, 24 hour volume: 37146.18653791, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.54030
Dec 20 18:24:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2242 @ 0.00062 = 1.39 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 18:30:26 <smickles>	thestringpuller: ya know, rather than doing multiple ;;tickers, if all you want is up to date exchange rates, /j #bitcoin-market
Dec 20 18:30:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11237 @ 0.00062 = 6.9669 BTC [+]
Dec 20 18:31:35 <thestringpuller>	im driving
Dec 20 18:38:41 <mod6>	there is a bitcoin price widget too for android.
Dec 20 18:39:06 <mod6>	check that out later when your velocity is lower.
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Dec 20 18:39:42 <thestringpuller>	lol agile talk
Dec 20 18:39:54 <thestringpuller>	agile pun
Dec 20 18:40:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00062 = 10.478 BTC [+]
Dec 20 18:44:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2639 @ 0.00062 = 1.6362 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 18:48:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00062 = 8.153 BTC [+]
Dec 20 18:49:07 <jurov>	good night. should everyone come complaining that coinbr.com is down, send them over to #bitvps
Dec 20 18:49:44 <jurov>	..er.. i mean anyone lol
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Dec 20 18:57:26 <dub>	omg coinbr is down, panic sell
Dec 20 18:57:37 <kakobrekla>	haxed
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Dec 20 19:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35053 @ 0.00062 = 21.7329 BTC [+]
Dec 20 19:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00062 = 6.634 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 19:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00062 = 1.116 BTC [+]
Dec 20 19:32:23 <dub>	which one of your fucks linked this SMBC comic
Dec 20 19:32:30 <dub>	burning all my time
Dec 20 19:32:52 <dub>	http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2789
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Dec 20 19:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9660 @ 0.00062 = 5.9892 BTC [+]
Dec 20 19:57:53 <thestringpuller>	dub: I am that fuck
Dec 20 19:58:10 <thestringpuller>	I apologize it will never happen again sir dub.
Dec 20 19:58:11 <thestringpuller>	:P
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Dec 20 20:02:14 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 20 20:02:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.57528, Best ask: 13.59790, Bid-ask spread: 0.02262, Last trade: 13.57528, 24 hour volume: 32562.23389010, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.53210
Dec 20 20:11:15 <thestringpuller>	ls
Dec 20 20:13:34 <kakobrekla>	.
Dec 20 20:13:35 <kakobrekla>	..
Dec 20 20:15:31 <thestringpuller>	oops
Dec 20 20:15:46 <kakobrekla>	'oops' invalid command.
Dec 20 20:15:48 <thestringpuller>	leave me alone it
Dec 20 20:15:55 <thestringpuller>	was an accident
Dec 20 20:21:57 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: >:(
Dec 20 20:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12599 @ 0.00062 = 7.8114 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 20:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11516 @ 0.00062 = 7.1399 BTC [+]
Dec 20 20:43:07 <mod6>	haha
Dec 20 20:46:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26939 @ 0.00062 = 16.7022 BTC [+]
Dec 20 20:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00062 = 1.922 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 21:16:46 <mod6>	does anyone know how to register a channel on freenode?
Dec 20 21:18:54 <kakobrekla>	mod6
Dec 20 21:18:58 <kakobrekla>	/msg chanserv register #chan
Dec 20 21:19:11 <kakobrekla>	/msg chanserv help
Dec 20 21:19:13 <kakobrekla>	also works :p
Dec 20 21:19:18 <mod6>	thanks kakobrekla
Dec 20 21:21:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9980 @ 0.00062 = 6.1876 BTC [+]
Dec 20 21:26:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7703 @ 0.00062 = 4.7759 BTC [+]
Dec 20 21:49:16 <smickles>	alright, lesson learned
Dec 20 21:49:29 <smickles>	sort statjson b/f sending it to a diff
Dec 20 21:49:50 <smickles>	jurov: ^ might find that a little humorous
Dec 20 22:03:06 <thestringpuller>	diff?
Dec 20 22:07:35 <smickles>	thestringpuller: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?diff
Dec 20 22:07:46 <smickles>	but i wasn't using that one in particular
Dec 20 22:08:34 <thestringpuller>	libboost-program-options1.42-dev
Dec 20 22:08:35 <thestringpuller>	oops
Dec 20 22:08:58 <thestringpuller>	I mean what are you diffing*
Dec 20 22:20:28 <smickles>	 a statjson from mpex
Dec 20 22:20:40 <smickles>	and this is a bit lol http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C010T
Dec 20 22:24:14 <thestringpuller>	why not just write contracts to the bot?
Dec 20 22:29:31 <thestringpuller>	!ticker O.BTCUSD.C140T
Dec 20 22:29:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.08471093 / 0.10230608 / 0.10442777 (2100 shares, 214.84 BTC)
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Dec 20 22:31:49 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> why not just write contracts to the bot? <<< what do you mean?
Dec 20 22:36:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32100 @ 0.00062 = 19.902 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 22:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2995 @ 0.00062 = 1.8569 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 23:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062 = 3.1 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 23:16:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9143 @ 0.00062 = 5.6687 BTC [+]
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Dec 20 23:21:24 <kakobrekla>	bah
Dec 20 23:24:46 <kakobrekla>	hetzner is down
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Dec 20 23:38:00 <smickles>	???
Dec 20 23:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062 = 6.386 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 00:11:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00062 = 7.006 BTC [+]
Dec 21 00:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]
Dec 21 00:24:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6120 @ 0.00062 = 3.7944 BTC [+]
Dec 21 00:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00062 = 1.891 BTC [+]
Dec 21 01:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00062 = 9.61 BTC [+]
Dec 21 01:30:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2587 @ 0.00062 = 1.6039 BTC [+]
Dec 21 01:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1991 @ 0.00062 = 1.2344 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 01:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00062 = 4.681 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 01:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00062 = 7.936 BTC [+]
Dec 21 02:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 02:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00062 = 8.029 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 02:40:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5390 @ 0.00062 = 3.3418 BTC [+]
Dec 21 02:47:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00062 = 4.836 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 02:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00062 = 4.433 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 02:59:38 <mircea_popescu>	smickles yes. jurov's representation is muchly exagerated :D
Dec 21 03:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4976 @ 0.00062 = 3.0851 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 03:28:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14393 @ 0.00062 = 8.9237 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 03:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4232 @ 0.00062 = 2.6238 BTC [+]
Dec 21 03:52:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00062 = 5.022 BTC [+]
Dec 21 03:59:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1795 @ 0.00350019 = 6.2828 BTC [+]
Dec 21 03:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1768 @ 0.00350489 = 6.1966 BTC [+]
Dec 21 03:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00357336 = 2.144 BTC [+]
Dec 21 03:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 837 @ 0.0036 = 3.0132 BTC [+]
Dec 21 04:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24539864 = 245.3986 BTC [-]
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Dec 21 04:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.12218421 = 122.1842 BTC [+]
Dec 21 04:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.17711205 = 177.1121 BTC [-]
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Dec 21 04:33:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 5 @ 0.00331001 = 0.0166 BTC [-]
Dec 21 04:34:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00062 = 3.689 BTC [+]
Dec 21 04:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13208 @ 0.00062 = 8.189 BTC [+]
Dec 21 04:47:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00062 = 2.17 BTC [+]
Dec 21 04:53:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00062 = 4.712 BTC [+]
Dec 21 05:01:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00062 = 2.511 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 05:16:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 370 @ 0.02807186 = 10.3866 BTC [-]
Dec 21 05:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6843 @ 0.00062 = 4.2427 BTC [+]
Dec 21 05:26:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.48844982 = 488.4498 BTC [-]
Dec 21 05:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41387733 = 413.8773 BTC [-]
Dec 21 05:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	Unfortunately, I have very bad news. I cannot currently proccess your withdrawals. The situation is very complicated and it's all my fault, that's why I feel terrible about it. I tried to make this up, to keep the site afloat and somehow recover the funds, but it's not possible anymore. Right now there are 1786 BTC pending withdrawal, which I can't honor...
Dec 21 05:29:42 <mircea_popescu>	bitmarket.eu is screwed.
Dec 21 05:31:28 <sgnb>	mircea_popescu: will it be fixed eventually?
Dec 21 05:31:37 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think so.
Dec 21 05:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	and tbh i think keeping money in anything other than mtgox and those frenchypoofs with the eu partnership is at this point cruising for a bruising.
Dec 21 05:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	the exchange market is going out of the "we can do anything" phase, there's no room left for one man and his hopes operations. which means pretty much all the extant ones will close down, and likely miost of them will close down ugly.
Dec 21 05:33:34 <mircea_popescu>	spot sellers a la d&t DBordello etc are probably safe for a while yet, but in general it's a closing window.
Dec 21 05:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00062 = 2.418 BTC [+]
Dec 21 05:44:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00062 = 5.053 BTC [+]
Dec 21 05:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4254 @ 0.00062 = 2.6375 BTC [+]
Dec 21 05:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7018 @ 0.00062 = 4.3512 BTC [+]
Dec 21 05:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6630 @ 0.00062 = 4.1106 BTC [+]
Dec 21 06:06:46 <sgnb>	mircea_popescu: you lost BTC because of bitmarket.eu? is there any public announcement of issues on their side?
Dec 21 06:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	i lost nothing
Dec 21 06:07:49 <mircea_popescu>	i saw the announcement, not sure if it was published
Dec 21 06:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/ there it is quoted and adnotated.
Dec 21 06:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	nm, it was announced i'm told. here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441.msg1413156#msg1413156
Dec 21 06:08:54 <sgnb>	oh
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Dec 21 06:09:02 <sgnb>	you were quoting
Dec 21 06:09:48 *	sgnb thought mircea_popescu was yet another scammer...
Dec 21 06:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	...
Dec 21 06:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	lmao!
Dec 21 06:10:27 <sgnb>	yeah, me too
Dec 21 06:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	what is with this expectation! it's getting ridiculous
Dec 21 06:11:08 <sgnb>	well, everything in bitcoinland is a scam, isn't it? :-)
Dec 21 06:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	in fairness, i should probably learn about quotation marks
Dec 21 06:11:40 <mircea_popescu>	but you know... i was here before pirate. some people preferred bitcoinica to mpoe. those people got screwed. it was a choice tho wasn't it.
Dec 21 06:12:02 <Graet>	um yeah, i misunderstood too, was looking in forum for your announce mircea_popescu
Dec 21 06:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	well at any rate i'm not going bust over 1700 btc omfg.
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Dec 21 06:17:41 <markedathome>	um... "there are 20161 19980 BTC missing (edit: I subtracted my funds that also were deposited on Bitmarket), and Bitcoinica claims total for around 50K USD"
Dec 21 06:17:55 <markedathome>	20161 is crossed out
Dec 21 06:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	basically, he was trading 20k of OPM on the strenght of 180 of his own
Dec 21 06:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	this is 100:1
Dec 21 06:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	and then took that leverage and did a 5:1 on top of it at bitcoinica
Dec 21 06:18:38 <mircea_popescu>	this is 500:1.
Dec 21 06:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3774 @ 0.00062 = 2.3399 BTC [+]
Dec 21 06:18:47 <mircea_popescu>	i do not know anyone who ever did this before. ever.
Dec 21 06:18:56 <markedathome>	OPM?
Dec 21 06:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	and he says he has experience. yet even hedge funds stop shy of 100:!
Dec 21 06:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	other people's money.
Dec 21 06:19:05 <markedathome>	oh, other people's money
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Dec 21 06:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoinstatus.rowit.co.uk/hosts.html isn't this mildly concerning ?
Dec 21 06:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin had ~60k hosts last sept but is around 18k now
Dec 21 06:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3026 @ 0.00062 = 1.8761 BTC [+]
Dec 21 06:46:32 <EskimoBob>	it's actually getting better, slowly, but still better than July/August
Dec 21 06:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3634 @ 0.00062 = 2.2531 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 06:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 700 @ 0.05261037 = 36.8273 BTC [-]
Dec 21 06:48:20 <jurov>	;;seen rg
Dec 21 06:48:21 <gribble>	rg was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 14 hours, 9 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <rg> good times
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Dec 21 07:42:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 07:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062 = 4.092 BTC [+]
Dec 21 07:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 08:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5776 @ 0.00062 = 3.5811 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 09:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00062 = 8.99 BTC [+]
Dec 21 09:08:55 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: people dropping bitcoin-client for electrum/armory/ webwallets?
Dec 21 09:09:05 <mircea_popescu>	must be
Dec 21 09:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	kinda sucky tho.
Dec 21 09:10:38 <markedathome>	though i am getting annoyed with electrum - what is it with "developers" using glorified text files as a database?
Dec 21 09:12:54 <jurov>	hehe, good apology: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123492.msg1412053#msg1412053
Dec 21 09:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtG3HywuYlE
Dec 21 09:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha this is funny
Dec 21 09:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	"The percentage of working age Americans with a job has been under 59 percent for 39 months in a row."
Dec 21 09:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol miracea ;/
Dec 21 09:14:58 <mircea_popescu>	for my sins
Dec 21 09:15:34 *	Ukto renames mircea_popescu to Miracea
Dec 21 09:15:38 <Ukto>	Can be your sister
Dec 21 09:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	i was perturbed enough a year or so ago when i found out who mircea monroe is
Dec 21 09:16:42 <Ukto>	shres pretty hot
Dec 21 09:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Dec 21 09:17:01 <jurov>	yes. wait when usagi finds out
Dec 21 09:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00062 = 6.169 BTC [+]
Dec 21 09:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	o boy.
Dec 21 09:17:11 <Ukto>	you should use her imdb pic as your profile pic. REALLY confuse ppl. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1597260/
Dec 21 09:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/mircea-mircea-monroe/ i think those are better
Dec 21 09:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	but yea, i'd do her.
Dec 21 09:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	and we could have babies and name them all mircea mircea
Dec 21 09:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	the girls could be mircea mircea after their mother
Dec 21 09:18:09 <mircea_popescu>	and the boys mircea mircea after me
Dec 21 09:19:02 <jurov>	so you'll change last name to mircea too?
Dec 21 09:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	what last names. they're going out of fashion.
Dec 21 09:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	"eNumbered is the choice of Occupy, Anonymous and Silk Road users." << ahaha people are seriously retarded enough to think this is a selling point ?
Dec 21 09:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	"use the same currency poor people use!!!"
Dec 21 09:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	100% backed by gold, 1.25% monthly guaranteed.
Dec 21 09:20:28 <mircea_popescu>	apparently they've taken egold and added some ponzi to the mix.
Dec 21 09:22:28 <markedathome>	that sounds vaguely solidcoin2.0ish - does it have account depreciation built in as well?
Dec 21 09:23:02 <mircea_popescu>	not yet. possibly once they find the solidcoin forums
Dec 21 09:23:41 *	Ukto only appreciates a few ppl. Generally I depreciate people.
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Dec 21 09:30:14 <Ukto>	hey guys
Dec 21 09:30:17 <Ukto>	how bad is usagi?
Dec 21 09:30:20 <Ukto>	scammer tag wise?
Dec 21 09:30:31 <Ukto>	I hear ppl make scam accusations, and other sregard him decently
Dec 21 09:30:37 <Ukto>	he hasasked to list BMF on BF
Dec 21 09:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00062 = 0.682 BTC [+]
Dec 21 09:31:24 <thestringpuller>	he owes me 20btc
Dec 21 09:31:40 <Ukto>	does he have plans to pay back?
Dec 21 09:31:48 <thestringpuller>	from his "insured fund"
Dec 21 09:31:57 <Ukto>	which fund
Dec 21 09:32:01 <thestringpuller>	i wrote it off
Dec 21 09:32:04 <thestringpuller>	nyan.a
Dec 21 09:33:12 <Ukto>	i mean
Dec 21 09:33:17 <Ukto>	he doesnt even have a scammer tag (yet)
Dec 21 09:33:27 <Ukto>	and wrote he is trying to make good on BMF
Dec 21 09:33:54 <Anduck>	bmf?
Dec 21 09:34:23 <Ukto>	yea
Dec 21 09:34:36 <thestringpuller>	he wants to liquidate
Dec 21 09:34:43 <thestringpuller>	dont let him list
Dec 21 09:34:55 <Ukto>	why bother relisting then?
Dec 21 09:34:59 <thestringpuller>	smickles had a loan defaulted from him
Dec 21 09:35:05 <thestringpuller>	and so on
Dec 21 09:35:08 <thestringpuller>	all bad experiences
Dec 21 09:35:20 <thestringpuller>	no good can come of listing his assets
Dec 21 09:35:31 <Ukto>	smickles: ?
Dec 21 09:36:21 <Anduck>	what is bmf, Ukto?
Dec 21 09:36:33 <Ukto>	some asset usagi has been running
Dec 21 09:36:37 <Ukto>	i am looking into it now
Dec 21 09:36:45 <Anduck>	yes but what kind of
Dec 21 09:36:48 <Anduck>	where the asset invested?
Dec 21 09:36:59 <Ukto>	as soon as I find the thread ill tell you :P
Dec 21 09:37:02 <Anduck>	alright
Dec 21 09:37:27 <thestringpuller>	miing bonds
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Dec 21 09:37:50 <thestringpuller>	smickles is mircea's broker
Dec 21 09:37:51 <Anduck>	ahh
Dec 21 09:37:54 <Anduck>	yes
Dec 21 09:38:02 <Anduck>	is smickles legit?
Dec 21 09:38:09 <Ukto>	very
Dec 21 09:38:15 <Anduck>	good.
Dec 21 09:38:23 <Anduck>	how many of you know him irl?
Dec 21 09:38:28 <Ukto>	I havent personally seen anything negative re: smickles. only positive++
Dec 21 09:39:05 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: here is how I am seeing it
Dec 21 09:40:01 <Ukto>	If he's listng just to liquidate, (he is already offered to pay the listing fee to use the service so meh), but.. even if its liquidation, at least it will help the community get something back
Dec 21 09:40:07 <Ukto>	rather than all exchanges turning him down
Dec 21 09:40:16 <Ukto>	and he says fuck it and buys nothing back
Dec 21 09:40:33 <Anduck>	why did it got messed up?
Dec 21 09:40:39 <Anduck>	GLBSE or piratE?
Dec 21 09:40:41 <Ukto>	i have no idea
Dec 21 09:40:43 <thestringpuller>	dude he should liquidate off exchangr
Dec 21 09:40:46 <Ukto>	i cant find a detailed thread
Dec 21 09:40:55 <thestringpuller>	and buy liquidate i mean bankruptcy
Dec 21 09:40:58 <thestringpuller>	by*
Dec 21 09:41:19 <thestringpuller>	his asets are no good
Dec 21 09:41:24 <thestringpuller>	he has too much debt
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Dec 21 09:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto well, he's nutty and fucked up a set of imaginary assets.
Dec 21 09:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	you're probably looking at more drama than it's worth.
Dec 21 09:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24595 @ 0.00062 = 15.2489 BTC [+]
Dec 21 09:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck he had a miningthing (bmf), an insurance thing (cpa) and a braindamaged cdo thing (nyan series)
Dec 21 09:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	none of these actually ever did what they were supposed to. the bmf thing never had actual mining gear, for isntance.
Dec 21 09:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	that as to usagi.
Dec 21 09:48:10 <mircea_popescu>	as to smickles i never met him irl but he's been my broker for a while and upstanding.
Dec 21 09:48:25 <Anduck>	are _you_ trusted?
Dec 21 09:48:32 <Anduck>	who are you?
Dec 21 09:48:36 <Anduck>	what do you do?
Dec 21 09:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Dec 21 09:48:50 <Anduck>	what makes you trustful?
Dec 21 09:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	well, i am the mircea popescu of MPEx.
Dec 21 09:48:58 <Anduck>	i know
Dec 21 09:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	a ok. so that's what i do.
Dec 21 09:49:07 <Anduck>	what makes people trust you?
Dec 21 09:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	mmm. prolly best ask them ?
Dec 21 09:49:24 <Anduck>	don't you know yourself??
Dec 21 09:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating mircea_popescu
Dec 21 09:49:26 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 100, from 46 total ratings. Received ratings: 45 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 56 positive, 7 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu
Dec 21 09:49:28 <mircea_popescu>	there's a list.
Dec 21 09:49:32 <Anduck>	do people know  you irl?
Dec 21 09:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	btc people ? not rly.
Dec 21 09:50:11 <Anduck>	ok
Dec 21 09:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	but if you come by timisoara you can buy me a drink.
Dec 21 09:51:23 <Anduck>	well why do people trust you
Dec 21 09:51:33 <Anduck>	if i made a exchange and named it "anducks exchange" , would people use i?
Dec 21 09:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	possibly not at first. it's been going for a while tho.
Dec 21 09:51:49 <Graet>	lol
Dec 21 09:52:05 <Graet>	trust is built
Dec 21 09:52:14 <Anduck>	well
Dec 21 09:52:16 <Graet>	people act in a trustworthy way and people trust them
Dec 21 09:52:16 <thestringpuller>	mircea makes me money
Dec 21 09:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	Graet his q is pretty stumping tho. i mean, why do people trust one!
Dec 21 09:52:21 <Anduck>	pirate built a nice trust and then boom scammed
Dec 21 09:52:26 <thestringpuller>	usagi loses me money
Dec 21 09:52:31 <thestringpuller>	do the math
Dec 21 09:52:32 <Anduck>	thestringpuller: i guess pirate made you monies too xD
Dec 21 09:52:33 <Graet>	asking someone why ppl trust them is a rather loaded question
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Dec 21 09:52:43 <Anduck>	well
Dec 21 09:52:49 <Anduck>	Graet: have you met him irl?
Dec 21 09:52:52 <Graet>	ask some of the ppl that trust him why they do would makle more sense :)
Dec 21 09:52:54 <thestringpuller>	pirate lost me money and i had 0 exposure
Dec 21 09:52:56 <Anduck>	do you even know where he lives?
Dec 21 09:53:01 <Anduck>	what makes him not to run with your moeny?
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Dec 21 09:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	i think some people met pirate or else someone hired for the job at some point
Dec 21 09:53:17 <Graet>	no, but i havent met you either, nor most of the 150 odd ppl that trust me and mine on my pool
Dec 21 09:53:24 <Anduck>	people STILL think pirate will come back and pay-WILL HE?
Dec 21 09:53:30 <jcpham>	so i'm reading this vladimir vs. magazine thread
Dec 21 09:53:30 <Anduck>	yeah they met pirate
Dec 21 09:53:30 <Graet>	250*
Dec 21 09:53:45 <Anduck>	they met pirate and so pirate got like 100k more btc from them or something
Dec 21 09:53:47 <Graet>	so meeting someone proves?
Dec 21 09:53:53 <mircea_popescu>	Graet arguably tho, much less trust is needed to mine on a pool. at most they lose a few day's hash
Dec 21 09:54:02 <Graet>	indeed
Dec 21 09:54:19 <mircea_popescu>	then again, there was that pool-cum-ponzi combo recently
Dec 21 09:54:19 <Graet>	my point is trust is built, not just given
Dec 21 09:54:23 <mircea_popescu>	that's for sure.
Dec 21 09:54:28 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: usagi run assets are bad news but dont take our word for it
Dec 21 09:54:29 <Anduck>	Graet: well do you have any kind of agreement on anything
Dec 21 09:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, if someone knew why people trust them they could hack more trust i guess
Dec 21 09:54:44 <Graet>	Anduck, agreement with who?
Dec 21 09:54:50 <Anduck>	i mean.. with mircea_popescu
Dec 21 09:54:56 <Graet>	no
Dec 21 09:54:58 <Anduck>	what if mircea_popescu now took all the monies xD
Dec 21 09:54:58 <mircea_popescu>	agreement to what ?
Dec 21 09:54:59 <Anduck>	and ran
Dec 21 09:55:09 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: tell me what makes you not to run with the money?
Dec 21 09:55:13 <Graet>	he interviewed me for his magazine ~ 18 months ago
Dec 21 09:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	nothing makes me.
Dec 21 09:55:34 <Graet>	apart from that we have cjhatted on irc. i dont see your point
Dec 21 09:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	hence trust.
Dec 21 09:55:46 <mircea_popescu>	Graet o right i recall!
Dec 21 09:55:52 <Graet>	;)
Dec 21 09:55:58 <Anduck>	well
Dec 21 09:56:18 <Anduck>	people trusted _some random guy from internet_ with their life savings (btcst)
Dec 21 09:56:26 <Anduck>	wasnt it enough a lesson
Dec 21 09:56:26 <Anduck>	?
Dec 21 09:56:28 <Graet>	indeed
Dec 21 09:56:33 <Graet>	i wasnt one...
Dec 21 09:56:34 <Anduck>	i am not saying mircea_popescu isnt trustful
Dec 21 09:56:37 <Anduck>	me neither
Dec 21 09:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck people get divorced all the time, is that a lesson not to get married ?
Dec 21 09:56:45 <Anduck>	duh
Dec 21 09:56:49 <Graet>	fuck yeah
Dec 21 09:56:49 <Anduck>	bad example!
Dec 21 09:56:56 <Graet>	i need a 2nd
Dec 21 09:57:06 <Graet>	divorce that is
Dec 21 09:57:07 <Graet>	:P
Dec 21 09:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
Dec 21 09:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	ok, i got a better one maybe. cars crash all the time, is that a lesson not to drive ?
Dec 21 09:57:47 <Anduck>	lol
Dec 21 09:57:53 <Anduck>	but  you drive the car yourself
Dec 21 09:57:59 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131608.msg1413383#msg1413383 is roger ver milking the forum for lulz by now ?
Dec 21 09:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck for some values of "yourself".
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Dec 21 10:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00062 = 8.401 BTC [+]
Dec 21 10:07:52 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu:
Dec 21 10:08:14 <thestringpuller>	i made a script to tell me how much mobey youve made based on the shares left
Dec 21 10:08:27 <thestringpuller>	1800 btc richer ;)
Dec 21 10:09:24 <thestringpuller>	err 6200*
Dec 21 10:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker (10000000-6702311)* 0.00062
Dec 21 10:09:35 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Dec 21 10:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (10000000-6702311)* 0.00062
Dec 21 10:09:39 <gribble>	2044.56718
Dec 21 10:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	bout 2k
Dec 21 10:10:44 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, maybe this is a good answer for anduck
Dec 21 10:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	i'm currently worth some 10s of k's in cash and some 100s of k's in stock
Dec 21 10:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	it makes no sense to run off.
Dec 21 10:11:49 <thestringpuller>	you are retired
Dec 21 10:11:54 <thestringpuller>	where would you run too?
Dec 21 10:11:57 <thestringpuller>	to*
Dec 21 10:11:59 <Anduck>	sell all shit n run like ni...ni...nig....RUNN!!
Dec 21 10:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	i was, but i came back out of it.
Dec 21 10:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	nobody can stay retired for long before they're 60 or so i don't think
Dec 21 10:30:30 <thestringpuller>	wise words
Dec 21 10:31:17 <jcpham>	i'm sortof getting bored with all of this
Dec 21 10:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	all of it ?
Dec 21 10:33:41 <mircea_popescu>	here, feel better http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135610253771.gif
Dec 21 10:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8908 @ 0.00062 = 5.523 BTC [+]
Dec 21 10:35:56 <jurov>	coinbr.com now working...outside bitvps
Dec 21 10:36:06 <jurov>	live.coinbr.com not yet
Dec 21 10:37:18 <jurov>	whole thing is such a farce...james did not pay for internet conenciton to switzerland datacenter
Dec 21 10:37:41 <jurov>	he is noit reachable now and new owners supposedly can't do anything about that
Dec 21 10:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30710 @ 0.00062 = 19.0402 BTC [+]
Dec 21 10:40:17 <jcpham>	i payed it last month btw
Dec 21 10:40:24 <jcpham>	switzerland
Dec 21 10:40:48 <pigeons>	will new owners trigger section "g" of the S.BVPS?
Dec 21 10:41:19 <jcpham>	if I hadn't rebooted my PC in the last month
Dec 21 10:41:24 <jcpham>	I'd have the swiss login
Dec 21 10:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00062 = 3.875 BTC [+]
Dec 21 10:41:45 <Ukto>	As of this point, I am waiting for Usagi's ticket reply
Dec 21 10:41:49 <Ukto>	on what his plans are for sure
Dec 21 10:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Dec 21 10:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons quite possibly. giving them a little time to come up with proper reports and everything
Dec 21 10:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	my understanding is rg's records were messy.
Dec 21 10:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00062 = 10.168 BTC [+]
Dec 21 10:47:40 <jcpham>	i've paid the swiss bill 3 times now
Dec 21 10:47:46 <jcpham>	if that tells you anything
Dec 21 10:48:05 <jcpham>	2x i had to find out from rg that the bill was due
Dec 21 10:48:11 <jcpham>	and that's why my vps was offline
Dec 21 10:49:11 <jurov>	and new owners knew nary of that?
Dec 21 10:49:15 <jcpham>	sorry i'll stfu
Dec 21 10:49:19 <jcpham>	shrug
Dec 21 10:50:02 <jcpham>	i've already grpp'd my logs and i don't have th login info anymore to pay it again
Dec 21 10:50:15 <jcpham>	i had it in a pm but it is gone now
Dec 21 10:50:23 <JWU_42>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75867.msg1413513#msg1413513
Dec 21 10:50:48 <JWU_42>	apologies it got to this for those who invested
Dec 21 10:51:10 <jcpham>	ty
Dec 21 10:51:58 <JWU_42>	jcpham: appreciate your patience with this...
Dec 21 10:52:09 <jcpham>	i'm fine
Dec 21 10:52:18 <jcpham>	tbh if you never pay i won't complain
Dec 21 10:52:19 <jurov>	jcpham, okay but you're the owner? or why does namjies &co act surprised over this?
Dec 21 10:52:36 <jcpham>	sorry jurov i know nothing
Dec 21 10:52:42 <jcpham>	i own nothing
Dec 21 10:53:02 <jcpham>	my swiss vps has been offline 3x now and i've payed the bill to get it backonline
Dec 21 10:53:11 <jcpham>	rg gave me bitcoins
Dec 21 10:53:16 <jcpham>	for my services
Dec 21 10:53:58 <jcpham>	and by "payed the bill" I payed the swiss datacenter to get everyone's vps's back running
Dec 21 10:54:31 <jcpham>	rg seemed to forget about switzerland
Dec 21 10:54:56 <JWU_42>	jcpham: I might need to take you up on that depending how this goes ;)
Dec 21 10:55:12 <jcpham>	we're talking maybe 10btc total
Dec 21 10:55:12 <JWU_42>	that is NOT the plan, however
Dec 21 10:55:23 <jcpham>	which i want but it isn't going to help or hurt me
Dec 21 10:55:26 <JWU_42>	jcpham: yeah
Dec 21 10:55:34 <Ukto>	[09:43] <pigeons> will new owners trigger section "g" of the S.BVPS? <-- I musta missed something, did RG sell?
Dec 21 10:55:40 <JWU_42>	the most vocal people are folks with <100 shares
Dec 21 10:55:51 <jcpham>	silliness JWU42
Dec 21 10:55:54 <jcpham>	_
Dec 21 10:56:17 <jcpham>	at one point in time at close 1000 shares
Dec 21 10:56:23 <jcpham>	but i sold them
Dec 21 10:56:56 <JWU_42>	I understand their frustration - I lost out on several GLBSE assets as well - but like you - for a dozen or so BTC - not worth the emotional energy to spaz over it
Dec 21 10:57:16 <JWU_42>	but everyone has their right to be pissed
Dec 21 10:57:17 <jcpham>	people need their drugs off sr
Dec 21 10:57:22 <jcpham>	baaaad
Dec 21 10:57:29 <JWU_42>	heh
Dec 21 10:57:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00062 = 3.596 BTC [+]
Dec 21 11:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham maybe you should get in touch with ajit/namjies ?
Dec 21 11:01:42 <jurov>	we're all so in touch
Dec 21 11:01:51 <jurov>	already
Dec 21 11:07:51 <pigeons>	rg not meticulous with paperwork? no way
Dec 21 11:08:18 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin d is cool as shit
Dec 21 11:08:22 <thestringpuller>	jurov
Dec 21 11:08:40 <thestringpuller>	i herd you have a coinbr api :P
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Dec 21 11:13:41 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons ikr, fud
Dec 21 11:14:57 <jurov>	thestringpuller, not yet. i was just waiting for someone to ask for it
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Dec 21 11:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6662 @ 0.00062 = 4.1304 BTC [+]
Dec 21 11:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	soo, Anduck and co made it in a new post.
Dec 21 11:18:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/is-smpoe-really-worth-that-much/
Dec 21 11:18:23 <mircea_popescu>	it's long but i really want to hear what the wise think.
Dec 21 11:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> thestringpuller, not yet. i was just waiting for someone to ask for it <<< haha good policy.
Dec 21 11:18:49 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu?
Dec 21 11:19:01 <Anduck>	yay
Dec 21 11:20:26 <Anduck>	man i made it in the post
Dec 21 11:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 21 11:21:00 <Anduck>	damn irc logs can be pasted anywhere!!
Dec 21 11:21:18 <Anduck>	u included my jokes in it! goddamnyou"
Dec 21 11:21:27 <Anduck>	well its ok
Dec 21 11:22:28 <Anduck>	monies and the nignigrun
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Dec 21 11:24:28 <Anduck>	hmmm..
Dec 21 11:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 21 11:24:37 <Anduck>	btw mircea_popescu: what makes mpex superior to other exchanges??
Dec 21 11:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#14
Dec 21 11:25:05 <Anduck>	ok
Dec 21 11:25:06 <Anduck>	=)
Dec 21 11:30:38 <EskimoBob>	lol
Dec 21 11:30:49 <jurov>	Double Cherry Truck insignia?
Dec 21 11:31:08 <jurov>	every time i reread the faq, a new surprise
Dec 21 11:32:13 <thestringpuller>	;;tslb
Dec 21 11:32:16 <gribble>	Time since last block: 31 minutes and 26 seconds
Dec 21 11:32:22 <mircea_popescu>	jurov :D
Dec 21 11:34:08 <thestringpuller>	cause no one expects the spanish inquisition
Dec 21 11:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	JWU42 what's the total yabmc story ? about 20k or so ?
Dec 21 11:38:36 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: wtf is that crap doing in the FAQ page
Dec 21 11:38:52 <Anduck>	"awards" and other stuff that makes "REAL WORLD PEOPLE" think it as a joke
Dec 21 11:39:12 <Anduck>	one running a system like that should not treat is as a joke in any way
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Dec 21 11:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it makes real world people think of it as a joke.
Dec 21 11:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	because why ?
Dec 21 11:39:29 <Anduck>	tell me
Dec 21 11:39:53 <Anduck>	i mean - it just seems to me like some kid made a site .......
Dec 21 11:40:18 <Anduck>	well if you want people to use your service
Dec 21 11:40:30 <Anduck>	it's not the best way to also make people interested in BTC
Dec 21 11:40:36 <Anduck>	when all the services are semi-jokes
Dec 21 11:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	i guess is the advantage of the rich - they see more humour in life ?
Dec 21 11:40:47 <Anduck>	well , might be
Dec 21 11:40:48 <mircea_popescu>	what;s the problem with a little fun ?
Dec 21 11:41:14 <Anduck>	some may think it's too much fun
Dec 21 11:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	here's the difference : this service is doing things right and has a little humour. the others are mostly humourless hacks doing things wrong.
Dec 21 11:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	trying too hard is a failure mode.
Dec 21 11:42:07 <Anduck>	mmmhh
Dec 21 11:42:22 <jurov>	actually most other sites look like they are made by kids
Dec 21 11:42:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00062 = 4.278 BTC [+]
Dec 21 11:45:40 <EskimoBob>	Anduck: if someone (mircea_popescu) writes about himself in third person, you know something is off. Especially, if they plaster their own name on every silly thing they think they "invented".
Dec 21 11:46:02 <EskimoBob>	lol
Dec 21 11:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 179 @ 0.00358628 = 0.6419 BTC [-]
Dec 21 11:47:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: who are the 5 other businesses
Dec 21 11:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00062 = 8.835 BTC [+]
Dec 21 11:49:00 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller hard to say. mtgox and sdice are there for sure.
Dec 21 11:49:12 <mircea_popescu>	possibly the one asic maker that actually delivers is there too
Dec 21 11:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	we just don't know yet.
Dec 21 11:49:18 <Ukto>	ROFLOL
Dec 21 11:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	maybe one or two miners
Dec 21 11:49:26 <Ukto>	LTC-Global created security BMF
Dec 21 11:49:28 <mircea_popescu>	sr, possibly.
Dec 21 11:49:29 <Ukto>	oh well
Dec 21 11:49:31 <Ukto>	dont care
Dec 21 11:49:50 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Dec 21 11:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	which one is bmf again ? usagi ?
Dec 21 11:50:12 <Ukto>	I guess that was Usagi's response to  "What are your plans for BMF?"
Dec 21 11:50:29 <Ukto>	He opened a ticket on BF wanting to list BMF
Dec 21 11:50:33 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: yes
Dec 21 11:50:33 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: code trading
Dec 21 11:50:40 <thestringpuller>	thats the next big business
Dec 21 11:50:44 <thestringpuller>	and review
Dec 21 11:50:47 <thestringpuller>	like you said
Dec 21 11:51:24 <jurov>	meh. i'll believe it once someone licenses coinbr code at fair price
Dec 21 11:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	i sent rowit.co.uk folks a mail see if they're up for it
Dec 21 11:53:48 <Ukto>	ROFLOL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88008.msg1413640#msg1413640
Dec 21 11:54:06 <Ukto>	someones getting jealous :P
Dec 21 11:54:25 <Ukto>	unless crypto posted something that I somehow missed, and he doesnt want to link
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Dec 21 12:17:53 <thestringpuller>	;;tslb
Dec 21 12:18:02 <gribble>	Time since last block: 6 minutes and 1 second
Dec 21 12:18:55 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 21 12:18:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.54311, Best ask: 13.54999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00688, Last trade: 13.54311, 24 hour volume: 28976.00583363, 24 hour low: 13.41999, 24 hour high: 13.64750, 24 hour vwap: 13.55264
Dec 21 12:19:25 <smickles>	what? i see c11, c12, c13 and they skipped c14 (where my orders are) and went to c15!
Dec 21 12:20:12 <smickles>	lolercakes
Dec 21 12:21:44 <smickles>	< Ukto> smickles: ? << what's up?
Dec 21 12:22:13 <smickles>	< Anduck> how many of you know him irl? << probably none, you anywhere near tucson AZ?
Dec 21 12:22:23 <thestringpuller>	smickles
Dec 21 12:22:27 <Anduck>	im in fin
Dec 21 12:22:32 <thestringpuller>	i havr order for you lok
Dec 21 12:22:34 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 21 12:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i think those were sells, by the price
Dec 21 12:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	were you buying ?
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Dec 21 12:27:54 <Ukto>	smickles: Usagi had opened a ticket on BF asking to list BMF. I replied asking what his intentions were with the asset. He seems to have a pretty questionable history.
Dec 21 12:28:07 <Ukto>	I got an email from btct.co a few min ago saying that BMF had been listed.
Dec 21 12:28:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh, I guess that would've missed me anyway then :P
Dec 21 12:28:16 <Ukto>	So I guess he didnt wanna answer my question. :P
Dec 21 12:29:04 <smickles>	yeah, don't question usagi if you want him to pretend to do something
Dec 21 12:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 21 12:29:31 *	Ukto srhugs, I could honestly care less
Dec 21 12:29:52 <Ukto>	I dont midn shrugging the scamish assets onto the others
Dec 21 12:30:07 <Ukto>	It's really more of a positive thing I think
Dec 21 12:30:07 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 21 12:30:12 <smickles>	anyway, i think my WoT rating of him puts my position clearly, he defaulted, an made good after default, but that's no reason for me to trust him now.
Dec 21 12:31:04 <Ukto>	at least he made good so *shrug*
Dec 21 12:31:40 <Ukto>	defaulting seems to have happened more than once for him in the past.
Dec 21 12:32:14 <PsychoticBoy>	I want to get rid of 115 gigamining shares since I am not going to send my personal information to a kid behind his computer calling himself a lawyer, someone wants to take them
Dec 21 12:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	iirc you can't do that.
Dec 21 12:33:51 <smickles>	i bet you can with psy's life rights or something
Dec 21 12:33:58 <smickles>	power of attorney in this matter
Dec 21 12:34:59 <smickles>	is romainia like a weekend trip's distance from finland?
Dec 21 12:35:26 <Anduck>	yeah
Dec 21 12:36:03 <Anduck>	whatcha need?
Dec 21 12:36:13 <Anduck>	1k btc aaand i'll do it
Dec 21 12:36:38 <Anduck>	(includes tickets to there and back + a simple job with no harm to anyone)
Dec 21 12:36:44 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's like 10-12 hours on train
Dec 21 12:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	europe has excellent trains
Dec 21 12:36:52 <Anduck>	its more i guess
Dec 21 12:36:55 <Anduck>	well yeah
Dec 21 12:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	being high density unlike the us
Dec 21 12:37:41 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: is BMF getting re-listed? Oh nooo.... :) I hope usagi has learned something from his previous fuck ups
Dec 21 12:37:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;google distance timisoara Espoo
Dec 21 12:37:49 <gribble>	Booking.com: Hotel Continental, Timişoara, Romania - 185 Guest ...: <http://www.booking.com/hotel/ro/continental-timisoara.en.html>; Jari Saarinen - AS-laitos - Aalto-yliopisto: <http://autsys.aalto.fi/JariSaarinen>; IEEE Xplore - Intelligent Computer Communication and Processing ...: <http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/mostRecentIssue.jsp?punumber=5278388>
Dec 21 12:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	pff
Dec 21 12:38:34 <Ukto>	https://btct.co/security/BMF
Dec 21 12:38:58 <PsychoticBoy>	wow usagi returns?
Dec 21 12:39:05 <smickles>	Anduck: well, yeah, i was going to suggest you find out if mircea_popescu actually has a sex dungeon, but I wasn't going to pay hardly any btc to help out the venture.
Dec 21 12:39:13 <Ukto>	read the asset details
Dec 21 12:39:14 <Ukto>	its funny
Dec 21 12:39:15 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 21 12:39:20 <Ukto>	you will get some laughs
Dec 21 12:39:26 <EskimoBob>	you understand that you have to go to Russia or take 2 boats, if you want to use a train for that
Dec 21 12:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	2.2k km
Dec 21 12:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	you just ferry across to like estonia
Dec 21 12:40:10 <PsychoticBoy>	omg the saga continues
Dec 21 12:40:10 <EskimoBob>	lol, sure
Dec 21 12:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	smickles : send the missus, i send back pics ?
Dec 21 12:41:18 <smickles>	sounds like a plan
Dec 21 12:41:19 <smickles>	:P
Dec 21 12:41:32 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy: sounds like it. Round #2, lots of miscalculated NAV's and other BS :)
Dec 21 12:41:38 <mircea_popescu>	something like http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135186901024.jpg
Dec 21 12:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5366 @ 0.00062 = 3.3269 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 12:45:41 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: hmm, i see several better sticks available
Dec 21 12:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	before or after ?
Dec 21 12:46:47 <PsychoticBoy>	   Explain how your products and services are competitive.
Dec 21 12:46:47 <PsychoticBoy>	--- Nobody could compete with us when I listed on the GLBSE, We blew MU, SS,
Dec 21 12:46:47 <PsychoticBoy>	MINING and other funds out of the water. We were about 5 times bigger than every
Dec 21 12:46:47 <PsychoticBoy>	other fund on GLBSE put together (from what I've seen of people's balance
Dec 21 12:46:47 <PsychoticBoy>	statements). For some reason or other, people liked how I ran things.
Dec 21 12:46:50 <PsychoticBoy>	lollol
Dec 21 12:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+]
Dec 21 12:47:04 <PsychoticBoy>	my FDBF was far more better
Dec 21 12:47:09 <EskimoBob>	lol "(Have to admit, I wasn't expecting this, and I lost the original BMF contract
Dec 21 12:47:11 <EskimoBob>	when GLBSE went down. I'll propose this, and I'd like to make any changes you
Dec 21 12:47:13 <EskimoBob>	suggest)"
Dec 21 12:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol wait, usagi was ever big ?
Dec 21 12:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	iirc never over 1-2k btc, was he ?
Dec 21 12:47:33 <EskimoBob>	I guess this is what you get, when you delete your own posts
Dec 21 12:47:39 <PsychoticBoy>	big jerk
Dec 21 12:47:44 <mircea_popescu>	dmc was 5x that when it started ffs.
Dec 21 12:47:49 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: total was about 8K BTC
Dec 21 12:47:59 <mircea_popescu>	total cpa + nyan + bmf
Dec 21 12:48:00 <smickles>	lol, SS stayed small intentionally
Dec 21 12:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol he blew ss ?
Dec 21 12:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	should i snap out the visual aids for that "blew" ?
Dec 21 12:48:46 <smickles>	Usagi himself even claimed he wanted to place 10000 btc with us
Dec 21 12:49:24 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: use that pic of me with a smirk holding the camera, it's like i'm holding his poney-tails
Dec 21 12:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	well, usagi is a valuable dramadition to any exchange that'll have him.
Dec 21 12:51:06 <smickles>	http://photobook.bitvps.com/index.php/
Dec 21 12:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaah remember the good old days
Dec 21 12:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	but no, i was thinking more blew in the sense of http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135601348721.gif
Dec 21 12:56:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00062 = 3.007 BTC [+]
Dec 21 13:08:03 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: Why doesn't MPEx display open interest on options like MPOE used to?
Dec 21 13:10:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 821 @ 0.00358628 = 2.9443 BTC [-]
Dec 21 13:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 369 @ 0.00355917 = 1.3133 BTC [-]
Dec 21 13:10:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 410 @ 0.00349819 = 1.4343 BTC [-]
Dec 21 13:10:46 <thestringpuller>	boom the short is closed
Dec 21 13:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12621 @ 0.00062 = 7.825 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 13:19:22 <smickles>	breaking news, s.mpoe is worth as much as we want to trust mircea_popescu
Dec 21 13:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	smickles lol yeah
Dec 21 13:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	re the open interest... already so many numbers in there ;/
Dec 21 13:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	re blog comment : for every 500 btc i make smpoe must appreciate by 5k ? is this sustainable ?
Dec 21 13:26:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0036 = 5.4 BTC [+]
Dec 21 13:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11475 @ 0.00062 = 7.1145 BTC [+]
Dec 21 13:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell namjies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.0
Dec 21 13:34:50 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Dec 21 13:45:43 <EskimoBob>	so they are on a verge of going out of business?
Dec 21 13:46:09 <gigavps>	who?
Dec 21 13:46:25 <EskimoBob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.0
Dec 21 13:46:30 <EskimoBob>	sounds really bad
Dec 21 13:47:08 *	EskimoBob hugs gigavps
Dec 21 13:47:21 <gigavps>	huh
Dec 21 13:47:37 <gigavps>	did someone steal EskimoBob's handle
Dec 21 13:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob tis unclear. new team trying to turn things around
Dec 21 13:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062 = 3.72 BTC [+]
Dec 21 13:48:47 <EskimoBob>	I hope they do and good luck with that.
Dec 21 13:50:10 <gigavps>	;;bc,stats
Dec 21 13:50:12 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 213054 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 641 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 8 hours, 22 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2919948.29465722 | Estimated Percent Change: -13.3593239604
Dec 21 13:50:29 <gigavps>	whoa
Dec 21 13:50:38 <mircea_popescu>	jurov live.coinbr.com is down ?
Dec 21 13:50:50 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps yes, diff has been dropping steadily.
Dec 21 13:50:51 <EskimoBob>	BTW, 5519 shares left and div date is 22 so get in and enjoy
Dec 21 13:51:30 <EskimoBob>	something that crawls up at 4-7% per week has to drop sooner or later
Dec 21 13:51:34 <gigavps>	EskimoBob i thought you only bought turds, i didn't know you were selling them
Dec 21 13:51:39 <EskimoBob>	and after halving...
Dec 21 13:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 21 13:51:50 <JWU_42>	heh
Dec 21 13:51:52 *	gigavps is kidding of course
Dec 21 13:51:55 <EskimoBob>	i do not do mining gigavps so thy can not be turds
Dec 21 13:52:04 <EskimoBob>	turd business is all yours, gigavps
Dec 21 13:52:09 <mircea_popescu>	i guess everyone was hoping for price spike, that didn'ty happen so miners are going offline
Dec 21 13:52:10 <EskimoBob>	:)
Dec 21 13:52:16 <mircea_popescu>	worst scenario for btc, but hey. it's what it is.
Dec 21 13:52:26 <gigavps>	asic will arrive soon enough
Dec 21 13:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	also means miner market is pretty much saturated/no more dollars pouring in
Dec 21 13:52:38 <JWU_42>	^ +1
Dec 21 13:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	which means asic companies have all the money they will everget, period.
Dec 21 13:52:58 <EskimoBob>	and imaginary ASICS have not materialized so what else is there to expect
Dec 21 13:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	if they fail to make asics in these runs, there's no asics in 2013 at all.
Dec 21 13:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	and i suspect this is the more likely outcome.
Dec 21 13:53:29 <JWU_42>	no asic in 2013 = butthurt for me
Dec 21 13:53:55 <EskimoBob>	2013 Feb. is the most optimistic
Dec 21 13:54:02 *	JWU_42 nods
Dec 21 13:54:29 <EskimoBob>	so it's more like May if history repeats... and it usually does
Dec 21 13:54:52 <gigavps>	lol
Dec 21 13:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob may is impossible. either jan, feb or march in degrading order of likeliness
Dec 21 13:54:58 <mircea_popescu>	or else next year.
Dec 21 13:55:02 <gigavps>	EskimoBob does have a point there
Dec 21 13:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	all this due to capital constraints
Dec 21 13:55:06 <JWU_42>	well - October/November = Feb/March for BFL
Dec 21 13:55:11 <JWU_42>	this was proven before
Dec 21 13:55:14 <JWU_42>	;)
Dec 21 13:55:34 <gigavps>	has bASIC stopped communicating all together?
Dec 21 13:55:47 <JWU_42>	bASIC is Thom?
Dec 21 13:55:50 <gigavps>	saw a couple posts of disgrunted people in the forums
Dec 21 13:55:52 <gigavps>	yep
Dec 21 13:56:04 <kakobrekla>	money flow cumulative is at all time high
Dec 21 13:56:13 <gigavps>	i do find it interesting that he was only active when he wanted everyone's money
Dec 21 13:56:15 <JWU_42>	and saw they are rebuying (or he) fpga stuff at $.20 on the dollar
Dec 21 13:56:21 <kakobrekla>	buyers still buying
Dec 21 13:56:32 <JWU_42>	maybe my numbers are a tad off
Dec 21 13:56:40 <gigavps>	kakobrekla where did you get that stat?
Dec 21 13:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i think we are headed for a recession.
Dec 21 13:56:50 <kakobrekla>	hold on
Dec 21 13:57:05 *	JWU_42 nods (unfortunately)
Dec 21 13:59:03 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/36/Ao/4Zj9Ykv7/mfchigh.png
Dec 21 13:59:06 <kakobrekla>	there ya go gigavps
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Dec 21 13:59:38 <gigavps>	blue == buy?
Dec 21 13:59:51 <kakobrekla>	red is price
Dec 21 13:59:55 <kakobrekla>	blue is money flow
Dec 21 14:00:10 <gigavps>	wow
Dec 21 14:00:23 <gigavps>	it's higher than at the $29 peak
Dec 21 14:00:34 <kakobrekla>	i told you it is all time high
Dec 21 14:00:48 <gigavps>	holy fuckballs
Dec 21 14:01:18 <JWU_42>	this from Gox?
Dec 21 14:01:18 <gigavps>	so the moneyflow scale is on the right?
Dec 21 14:01:28 <kakobrekla>	yes gox
Dec 21 14:01:28 <JWU_42>	might color the axis red and blue
Dec 21 14:01:32 <gigavps>	left
Dec 21 14:01:34 <JWU_42>	make it easier to discern
Dec 21 14:01:38 <kakobrekla>	left is money flow right is price
Dec 21 14:01:43 <gigavps>	kk
Dec 21 14:01:57 <kakobrekla>	btw
Dec 21 14:02:03 <kakobrekla>	money flow oscilator owns with bitcoin
Dec 21 14:02:04 <kakobrekla>	;)
Dec 21 14:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla im not sure i trust that data.
Dec 21 14:02:48 <kakobrekla>	k
Dec 21 14:02:48 <JWU_42>	interefsting that price hasn't moved much despite the moneyflow
Dec 21 14:02:59 <JWU_42>	last time you had this moneyflow price went up about 4x
Dec 21 14:03:02 <kakobrekla>	its pooling data with sierra chart plugin
Dec 21 14:03:05 <kakobrekla>	so data is fine
Dec 21 14:03:13 <mircea_popescu>	for one, outflow far exceeds total inflow at most points.
Dec 21 14:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	this is a logical impossibility
Dec 21 14:03:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00062 = 0.93 BTC [+]
Dec 21 14:03:53 <JWU_42>	makes sense
Dec 21 14:03:59 <JWU_42>	taking BTC to USD
Dec 21 14:04:14 <JWU_42>	or some other currency
Dec 21 14:04:20 <kakobrekla>	volume made on uptick is bull on downtick is bear
Dec 21 14:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	outflow is outflow
Dec 21 14:04:25 <JWU_42>	maybe i am not "getting" the graph
Dec 21 14:04:29 <mircea_popescu>	you can't have more outflow than the total inflow to date.
Dec 21 14:05:19 <thestringpuller>	sell X.IDIFF.MAR
Dec 21 14:05:21 <kakobrekla>	only btc usd on gox
Dec 21 14:05:27 <kakobrekla>	not all btc traded every everywhere
Dec 21 14:05:29 <mircea_popescu>	even so.
Dec 21 14:05:41 <JWU_42>	mircea_popescu: I see your point...
Dec 21 14:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	it would propose most outflow goes through gox but not most inflow, which is nonsense
Dec 21 14:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's the other way around if anything
Dec 21 14:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	gox is used miostly for inflow, people take money out privately.
Dec 21 14:06:04 <kakobrekla>	is about the direction of trade
Dec 21 14:06:09 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Dec 21 14:06:28 <JWU_42>	I would think the opposite - most epople sell via mtgox as price is highest (generally)
Dec 21 14:06:37 <JWU_42>	and buy elsewhere where prices are lower
Dec 21 14:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	nah cause people don't want the kyc
Dec 21 14:06:38 <thestringpuller>	ni
Dec 21 14:06:41 <thestringpuller>	no
Dec 21 14:06:49 <thestringpuller>	inflow yo
Dec 21 14:06:50 <mircea_popescu>	the buyers are many and small timers, the sellers are few and sell large chunks
Dec 21 14:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	not the other way around
Dec 21 14:07:13 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: btc recession?
Dec 21 14:07:15 <JWU_42>	Then I break the rules
Dec 21 14:07:35 <kakobrekla>	the chart is fine
Dec 21 14:07:57 <kakobrekla>	perhaps we should call it cumulative delta
Dec 21 14:08:02 <kakobrekla>	http://www.trade2win.com/articles/1670-trading-cumulative-delta-indicator
Dec 21 14:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	JWU42 obviously not actual rules, just tendencies
Dec 21 14:08:12 <JWU_42>	heh
Dec 21 14:08:14 <JWU_42>	I know
Dec 21 14:08:21 <JWU_42>	rules isn't the best word choice
Dec 21 14:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	o, well if its +delta then sure.
Dec 21 14:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	orders rather than actual trades
Dec 21 14:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	that's a sentiment guesser not a historical descriptor.
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Dec 21 14:10:50 <kakobrekla>	its trades
Dec 21 14:11:00 <kakobrekla>	its actual trades that happend with market orders
Dec 21 14:11:05 <kakobrekla>	no limit order data
Dec 21 14:11:40 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
Dec 21 14:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	how do you even distinguish market from limit orders on mtgox, do they mark them in some api output ?
Dec 21 14:12:18 <kakobrekla>	if one buys at market its obvious that on the other side there is a lmit order to be filled
Dec 21 14:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	a trade can be eitgher limit crossing limit or market crossing limit
Dec 21 14:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you said above this data is market orders only ?
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Dec 21 14:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, btcjam lol. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg1413923#msg1413923
Dec 21 14:13:44 <kakobrekla>	with mtgox you cant place a bid limit over ask
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Dec 21 14:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	o srsly ?
Dec 21 14:14:22 <kakobrekla>	ya
Dec 21 14:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it shows i never use it lol
Dec 21 14:16:00 <kakobrekla>	its more useful for btc than anything else
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Dec 21 14:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13101 @ 0.00062 = 8.1226 BTC [+]
Dec 21 14:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062 = 2.356 BTC [+]
Dec 21 14:45:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8848 @ 0.00062 = 5.4858 BTC [+]
Dec 21 14:50:46 <JWU_42>	that btcjam is BAD
Dec 21 14:50:49 <JWU_42>	ugh
Dec 21 14:50:59 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Dec 21 14:51:27 <JWU_42>	the one MP posted just above
Dec 21 14:51:45 <JWU_42>	77% repayment
Dec 21 14:51:50 <JWU_42>	or 23% scam
Dec 21 14:51:54 <JWU_42>	BAD BAD BAD
Dec 21 14:52:07 <JWU_42>	well - maybe not scam
Dec 21 14:52:16 <JWU_42>	but not something that gets me excited to lend
Dec 21 14:52:19 <mircea_popescu>	its laughable
Dec 21 14:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	works out to like -99% API ? lol
Dec 21 15:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850000 @ 0.00062 = 1767 BTC [+]
Dec 21 15:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/is-smpoe-really-worth-that-much/#comment-91079
Dec 21 15:02:22 <mircea_popescu>	lmao this is today's top comedy
Dec 21 15:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 420 @ 0.11564518 = 48.571 BTC [-]
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Dec 21 15:09:08 <Anduck>	damn you mp
Dec 21 15:09:21 <Anduck>	+ they talk horribad english
Dec 21 15:09:22 <Anduck>	!!
Dec 21 15:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	"or you can cover your debts with a loan from yourself by this EU third party whom mystifies stuff, which is state business again.. and any government is fraudulent."
Dec 21 15:09:36 <mircea_popescu>	!!!
Dec 21 15:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6483 @ 0.00062 = 4.0195 BTC [+]
Dec 21 15:11:29 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: the first comment. i understood nothing
Dec 21 15:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	join the clubn
Dec 21 15:11:56 <Anduck>	except the final part, that one i got
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Dec 21 15:20:16 <smickles>	jurov: live.coinbr.com down?
Dec 21 15:22:51 <thestringpuller>	yea. bitvps
Dec 21 15:24:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00062 = 6.572 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 15:32:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00062 = 4.185 BTC [+]
Dec 21 15:36:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9098 @ 0.00062 = 5.6408 BTC [+]
Dec 21 15:51:21 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I'm chatting here via a bitvps server :o
Dec 21 15:53:13 <Namjies>	Not all servers are alright.
Dec 21 16:00:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062 = 4.464 BTC [+]
Dec 21 16:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	This doesn't mean that it's doom and gloom. (though we've had plenty of that already). What it means is that I won't have time to maintain the miners, keep things running, or run the sites/infrastructure.
Dec 21 16:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	So this means either:
Dec 21 16:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	A) BTCSYN will be shut down, and we'll figure out a sane way to do that (liquidate and pay out to shareholders using this list)
Dec 21 16:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	B) Someone else will need to pick up the torch and continue operation (At the vote of shareholders).
Dec 21 16:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	C) Some other alternative I haven't thought of yet.
Dec 21 16:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	IF we decide to liquidate (ie no other alternative is presented) be aware that the debt to enterpoint is larger than our current liquid assets, and the liquidatable value of those other 4 boards isn't very high with ASICs around the corner. Ideally another alternative will be possible. We'll see in the newyear.
Dec 21 16:09:38 <Namjies>	Good grief...
Dec 21 16:09:46 <mircea_popescu>	i forgot the quotes again
Dec 21 16:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	IT IS NOT ME GOING OUT OF BUSINESS PEOPLE
Dec 21 16:09:56 <mircea_popescu>	I AM QUOTING.
Dec 21 16:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	ty.
Dec 21 16:10:58 <Namjies>	I usually understand that by the immediately following statement mentionning that X business is going down.
Dec 21 16:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	ya well i nearly created a panic yest
Dec 21 16:11:18 <EskimoBob>	BTCSYN?
Dec 21 16:11:18 <Namjies>	or the failure statement including things that you're not even in business in.
Dec 21 16:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	i don't remember who it was i was quoting, but a few people were spooked.
Dec 21 16:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	o, the bitcoin-market.eu it was.
Dec 21 16:12:10 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 21 16:12:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.47429, Best ask: 13.56797, Bid-ask spread: 0.09368, Last trade: 13.47425, 24 hour volume: 29638.17165934, 24 hour low: 13.41999, 24 hour high: 13.64750, 24 hour vwap: 13.54771
Dec 21 16:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00062 = 2.4713 BTC [+]
Dec 21 16:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Dec 21 16:12:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00062 / 0.00062 / 0.00062 (3767064 shares, 2,335.58 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00054214 / 0.00063995 (104595129 shares, 56,705.52 BTC)
Dec 21 16:13:01 <Namjies>	There wasn't much in that quote other than money was lost and the business was attempted to be kept afloat to recoup loss through fees or something like that.
Dec 21 16:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (0.00062/0.00054214) ** 12
Dec 21 16:13:10 <gribble>	5.00452492634
Dec 21 16:13:13 <Namjies>	For once that could potentially have been applied to MPEx
Dec 21 16:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	500%. ftw.
Dec 21 16:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies ya, i wasn't too careful.
Dec 21 16:13:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]
Dec 21 16:18:00 <thestringpuller>	what if a transaction never gets put into a block?
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Dec 21 16:19:13 <FabianB_>	thestringpuller: make a new transaction with a fee
Dec 21 16:19:33 <thestringpuller>	but when will the original transaction die?
Dec 21 16:19:43 <thestringpuller>	when it is at 0% network prop?
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Dec 21 16:21:18 <Namjies>	a transaction with an higher fee has priority over the same output with a lesser fee, I believe.
Dec 21 16:23:31 <FabianB_>	depends on the miner (or pool), different pools implement it differently i think
Dec 21 16:28:19 <mircea_popescu>	a broadcast transaction pretty much never dies if i understand this correctly
Dec 21 16:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	unless some of its input is spent
Dec 21 16:29:22 <kakobrekla>	ummm
Dec 21 16:29:29 <kakobrekla>	afaik its discarded after a while
Dec 21 16:29:34 <kakobrekla>	if it doesnt get confirmed
Dec 21 16:29:38 <kakobrekla>	one would need to resend
Dec 21 16:29:56 <kakobrekla>	seems to be right thing to do
Dec 21 16:30:06 <kakobrekla>	or else we could build infinitive queue
Dec 21 16:31:30 <kakobrekla>	Namjies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.msg1414201;topicseen#msg1414201
Dec 21 16:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00062 = 11.687 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 16:41:53 <thestringpuller>	;;tslb
Dec 21 16:41:58 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 38 seconds
Dec 21 16:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5939 @ 0.00062 = 3.6822 BTC [+]
Dec 21 16:48:18 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: how many dmc shares do you even have?
Dec 21 16:49:36 <Diablo-D3>	if its not a large fraction of the missing 300 some shares, why bother me over it
Dec 21 16:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 96 @ 0.00349819 = 0.3358 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00348464 = 5.9239 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00346752 = 7.8019 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00346504 = 5.1976 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00345578 = 8.6395 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00344559 = 3.6179 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5587 @ 0.00343861 = 19.2115 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4700 @ 0.00342636 = 16.1039 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00339841 = 2.039 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1041 @ 0.00337007 = 3.5082 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7495 @ 0.00190012 = 14.2414 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 208020 @ 0.00190011 = 395.2609 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 506 @ 0.00190007 = 0.9614 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00190001 = 9.5001 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 507115 @ 0.0018 = 912.807 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 995840 @ 0.0014 = 1394.176 BTC [-]
Dec 21 16:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Dec 21 16:50:38 <mircea_popescu>	no fucking way.
Dec 21 16:50:44 <Namjies>	FUCK
Dec 21 16:50:55 <Namjies>	I should have had a bid in!
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Dec 21 16:51:11 <Namjies>	Why didn't I have more BTC available for this!
Dec 21 16:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 21 16:51:27 <Namjies>	I wanted to have bids in...
Dec 21 16:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0014 / 0.00161337 / 0.0036 (1753279 shares, 2,828.70 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00308387 / 0.0037 (9053859 shares, 27,921.00 BTC)
Dec 21 16:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	breathtaking. -50% 1day avg
Dec 21 16:53:18 <kakobrekla>	i took the bid out.
Dec 21 16:53:24 <kakobrekla>	;>
Dec 21 16:53:30 <kakobrekla>	i win!
Dec 21 16:53:37 <thestringpuller>	haha
Dec 21 16:53:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol?
Dec 21 16:53:51 <Namjies>	Which one?
Dec 21 16:53:55 <thestringpuller>	who offloaded
Dec 21 16:54:08 <thestringpuller>	and why?
Dec 21 16:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	good q.
Dec 21 16:54:52 <smickles>	whoever got that 1394btc worth at .0014 should be happy
Dec 21 16:54:56 <smickles>	come dividend day
Dec 21 16:55:13 <kakobrekla>	i had a bid at 18 for a while
Dec 21 16:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ya srsly.
Dec 21 16:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	what's it projected to pay anymore ?
Dec 21 16:56:34 <smickles>	;;calc (30000-16000)/100000000
Dec 21 16:56:35 <gribble>	0.00014
Dec 21 16:56:40 <smickles>	a 100% dividend
Dec 21 16:56:54 <smickles>	*monthly
Dec 21 16:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	no fuycking way ?!
Dec 21 16:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	10% man.
Dec 21 16:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	it's 0.0014
Dec 21 16:57:34 <Anduck>	wat
Dec 21 16:57:40 <EskimoBob>	smickles: next div day will not be as nice as those so far
Dec 21 16:57:52 <Anduck>	LOL
Dec 21 16:58:00 <Anduck>	did S.DICE just go down like hell
Dec 21 16:58:00 <Anduck>	xD
Dec 21 16:58:01 <mircea_popescu>	EskimoBob next div day its projected to pay as much as TOTAL so far.
Dec 21 16:58:04 <Anduck>	my luck indeed.
Dec 21 16:58:28 <EskimoBob>	do the math. There will me more shares outstanding to share the income
Dec 21 16:58:32 <smickles>	it should pop back up soon tho
Dec 21 16:58:55 <smickles>	I see no fundamental difference b/t now and earlier
Dec 21 16:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	no there won't lol.
Dec 21 16:59:14 <Namjies>	EskimoBob, on MPEx, all shares even non-outstanding get dividends.
Dec 21 16:59:24 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: are you telling me, that they can not sell any shares from III ?
Dec 21 16:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's always been divided to 100 mn
Dec 21 16:59:36 <EskimoBob>	WHAT Namjies!
Dec 21 16:59:51 <Namjies>	So no more shares to split. Beside, each share represent 100 000 000th of SatoshiDice income.
Dec 21 16:59:53 <EskimoBob>	are you serious?
Dec 21 17:00:06 <smickles>	EskimoBob: the other 90000000shares are not treasury stock
Dec 21 17:00:10 <Namjies>	EskimoBob, yes...
Dec 21 17:00:32 <Anduck>	happy 22th day!
Dec 21 17:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	ty.
Dec 21 17:00:44 <Namjies>	Evoorhees keeps 90% of revenue, the 10 million he's selling is for 10% of revenue.
Dec 21 17:00:46 <smickles>	22th day?
Dec 21 17:01:03 <Namjies>	Otherwise SatoshiDice would be paying 10-20% per month...
Dec 21 17:01:10 <EskimoBob>	sure but the ones he has not sold in IPO can not get divs or ...
Dec 21 17:01:16 <Anduck>	smickles: day changed in finland
Dec 21 17:01:23 <EskimoBob>	fuck, this IPO is even bigger fuck up than I ever imagined
Dec 21 17:01:31 <smickles>	Anduck: you fins celebrate the 22nd?
Dec 21 17:01:38 <Anduck>	nah... we don't actually
Dec 21 17:01:42 <Namjies>	EskimoBob, the dividends shown on MPEx is for 10 million shares.
Dec 21 17:01:45 <Anduck>	i just happened to notice it at 00:00
Dec 21 17:01:59 <smickles>	heh, you had me baffled Anduck
Dec 21 17:02:05 <Namjies>	or 10% of SD's income.
Dec 21 17:02:13 <Anduck>	well uhmm whats happening to SD?
Dec 21 17:02:16 <smickles>	EskimoBob: i don't understand what you are upset about
Dec 21 17:02:18 <Namjies>	The other 90% Evoorhees keep.
Dec 21 17:02:21 <Anduck>	did my shares just lose all its value?
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Dec 21 17:02:44 <EskimoBob>	smickle, I am not upset at all but who keeps the divs on shares not sold on IPO?
Dec 21 17:02:45 <kakobrekla>	yes they are worthless
Dec 21 17:02:48 <kakobrekla>	send em over.
Dec 21 17:02:50 <kakobrekla>	jeez.
Dec 21 17:02:52 <Anduck>	ok
Dec 21 17:02:58 <Anduck>	what bitcoin address i sent
Dec 21 17:03:00 <Anduck>	sned *
Dec 21 17:03:01 <Namjies>	EskimoBob, Evoorhees...
Dec 21 17:03:08 <EskimoBob>	really?
Dec 21 17:03:11 <Anduck>	ye
Dec 21 17:03:19 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Dec 21 17:03:19 <smickles>	Anduck: someone just sold a bunch, for personal reasons it seems because there isn't any bad news out there
Dec 21 17:03:23 <Namjies>	Otherwise, what, someone buy one share and no one else and that person gets everything?
Dec 21 17:03:27 <Anduck>	alright, smickles..
Dec 21 17:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00062 = 13.144 BTC [+]
Dec 21 17:03:37 <kakobrekla>	big double spend commin up!
Dec 21 17:03:59 <kakobrekla>	also pirate paid yesterday.
Dec 21 17:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol kakobrekla
Dec 21 17:04:05 <Namjies>	That share didn't finance the whole of SatoshiDice. SatoshiDice was already financed.
Dec 21 17:04:05 <Anduck>	big 0.1 bets to <1 handle winning streak incoming
Dec 21 17:04:17 <Namjies>	SatoshiDice went public.
Dec 21 17:04:18 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: you kno what treasury stock is and why shares have that "status"?
Dec 21 17:04:40 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny watching EskimoBob doing the usagi thing
Dec 21 17:04:42 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: sdice wash NEVER financed
Dec 21 17:04:46 <smickles>	Anduck: if you look at the chart, this happend a couple of times already and it recovered within 24 hrs
Dec 21 17:04:52 <Anduck>	alright
Dec 21 17:05:12 <kakobrekla>	shuuttup smickles almost got the shares.
Dec 21 17:05:16 <EskimoBob>	he pulled a number out of his ass, mircea_popescu helped him to sell this garbage and now you have, what ever you have there :)
Dec 21 17:05:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00359 = 1.077 BTC [+]
Dec 21 17:05:31 <Namjies>	EskimoBob: it was, by evoorhees, for initial development and servers... that's still financement.
Dec 21 17:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	the largest revenue generator in btc, is what you have there.
Dec 21 17:05:47 <Namjies>	Plus no part of the 100 million shares was ever treasury stock.
Dec 21 17:05:53 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: usagi thing? And hat is that?
Dec 21 17:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	you don't like it, stick to making mud pies or w/e you're making.
Dec 21 17:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	usagi thing. clueless stupidity acting as if it knows shit.
Dec 21 17:06:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00062 = 14.012 BTC [+]
Dec 21 17:06:29 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: talk about yourself :)
Dec 21 17:06:46 <thestringpuller>	eskimobob why you such a troll?
Dec 21 17:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	sigh, lemme dig it.
Dec 21 17:07:49 <Namjies>	EskimoBob, there is nothing wrong in all of this... SatoshiDice was already an established business. It went public with 100 million shares owned by Evoorhees since he owns his business. Buying shares of S.DICE means you buy an interest in SD off of him.
Dec 21 17:07:59 <Namjies>	He's still entitled to any interest on shares not sold.
Dec 21 17:08:02 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: I am not a troll at all. If you do not understand, why  you got fucked, sorry
Dec 21 17:08:30 <Diablo-D3>	so EskimoBob doesnt understand how companies go public?
Dec 21 17:08:33 <thestringpuller>	im not fucked?
Dec 21 17:08:37 <mircea_popescu>	Sep 04 22:47:33 <usagi>	I know more about finance than you could possibly understand mircea
Dec 21 17:08:39 <Namjies>	The rest of the shares were never treasury stock.
Dec 21 17:08:47 <mircea_popescu>	there, not even three months.
Dec 21 17:08:48 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: hehehehehehehheheeheh
Dec 21 17:08:49 <thestringpuller>	september 4th ahh
Dec 21 17:08:53 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: did you go short?
Dec 21 17:09:00 <Namjies>	No, I think EskimoBob was simply under the impression the rest was claimed to be treasury stock when it's not.
Dec 21 17:09:19 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: yes I was
Dec 21 17:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00062 = 2.294 BTC [+]
Dec 21 17:10:29 <Namjies>	It's not, so no scam there. SD was paying about 1% per month.
Dec 21 17:10:49 <Namjies>	It was indeed low, quite low...
Dec 21 17:10:49 <EskimoBob>	I guess it's all OK then :)
Dec 21 17:11:03 <Namjies>	But you could easily calculate and know that if you read before buying.
Dec 21 17:11:22 <Namjies>	Considering it's one of the most trustable business out there, that 1% is still good.
Dec 21 17:11:27 <EskimoBob>	i had only few shares of this crap for lulz, so I do not really care
Dec 21 17:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	no, you had only a few shares because that's all you actually can afford, and yes, you are quite the lulz.
Dec 21 17:12:55 <EskimoBob>	Namjies: do you see, how this business can really grow from where it's now?
Dec 21 17:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	dude. it made its lifetime income in the last month.
Dec 21 17:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	is that so hard ?
Dec 21 17:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	for instance, you will never make this many btc
Dec 21 17:13:24 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: your obsession of money only shows how poor you actually are. LOL
Dec 21 17:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	in your whole life.\
Dec 21 17:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	ding dong.
Dec 21 17:13:54 <EskimoBob>	exactly ding dong
Dec 21 17:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	blind dog goes to mt fiji. "your obsession with clouds shows how small you really are".
Dec 21 17:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	yes, i'm sure mt fiji is within the size purvey of blind dogs.
Dec 21 17:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6359 @ 0.00062 = 3.9426 BTC [+]
Dec 21 17:15:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2701 @ 0.00359 = 9.6966 BTC [+]
Dec 21 17:15:46 <EskimoBob>	now, go reload your porn site, you lonely fuck :) and count your 2 coins, while you are at it LOL!
Dec 21 17:16:30 <kakobrekla>	i wish i had 2 coins.
Dec 21 17:16:39 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu, pathetic little man, always counting other peoples money
Dec 21 17:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4451 @ 0.00062 = 2.7596 BTC [+]
Dec 21 17:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	2 coins are good cause they make more coins.
Dec 21 17:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00359 = 0.0108 BTC [+]
Dec 21 17:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	just make sure they're a boy coin and a girl coin.
Dec 21 17:19:50 <EskimoBob>	what is it mircea_popescu, still have problems getting a women? Go see a specialist about your complexes
Dec 21 17:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	if this guy turns out to have actually BEEN usagi all along, and set up the arguing with himself and all, it'll be on boxxy level of sad.
Dec 21 17:21:20 <kakobrekla>	remind me, why is boxxy sad
Dec 21 17:21:36 <EskimoBob>	usagi was your big pall, mircea_popescu.
Dec 21 17:21:59 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla trying to remember, is she the one with the backtracing ?
Dec 21 17:21:59 <EskimoBob>	I can see, how you two dimwitted fucks fit
Dec 21 17:22:22 <smickles>	boxxy as in boxxy is dead, or boxxy the forum dweller?
Dec 21 17:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	the youtube freak
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Dec 21 17:23:00 <Diablo-D3>	boxxy as in you're behind 10 of them?
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Dec 21 17:23:23 <kakobrekla>	i dont know what the shit was about that girl
Dec 21 17:23:30 <kakobrekla>	i just remembers some pics somewhere
Dec 21 17:23:32 <Diablo-D3>	virgins
Dec 21 17:23:34 <Diablo-D3>	lots of them
Dec 21 17:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;google i've backtraced it
Dec 21 17:23:39 <gribble>	(EXTENDED REMIX) Because I Back-Traced It (You dun goofed up ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYrlj9VE2fg>; Urban Dictionary: Back-Traced It: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Back-Traced%20It>; Urban Dictionary: back traced: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=back%20traced>
Dec 21 17:23:43 <mircea_popescu>	that's her right ?
Dec 21 17:24:24 <smickles>	no
Dec 21 17:24:34 <smickles>	not the boxxy i know an love
Dec 21 17:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Dec 21 17:24:58 <smickles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yavx9yxTrsw
Dec 21 17:25:14 <smickles>	I actually used gaia when this happened
Dec 21 17:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	needs flash
Dec 21 17:25:46 <smickles>	oh, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcydqSpYN00 that's the originaly
Dec 21 17:25:46 *	Ukto falshes mircea_popescu
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Dec 21 17:26:02 *	Ukto gives Diablo-D3 lots of make virgins
Dec 21 17:26:05 <Ukto>	you ddidnt specift
Dec 21 17:26:06 <Ukto>	y
Dec 21 17:26:09 <Bugpowder>	What happened?
Dec 21 17:26:11 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE?
Dec 21 17:26:17 <Ukto>	?
Dec 21 17:26:17 *	mircea_popescu waits for Bugpowder  to go bonkers
Dec 21 17:26:19 <Bugpowder>	news, or just insane people again
Dec 21 17:26:21 <smickles>	big sell Bugpowder
Dec 21 17:26:29 <smickles>	no news that i've seen
Dec 21 17:26:38 <smickles>	idiopathic sell
Dec 21 17:26:45 <Ukto>	smickles: otehr than today major hack? 0,o
Dec 21 17:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not actually watching the chain. did they just lose like the house ?
Dec 21 17:26:57 <Ukto>	j/k J/K *hides*
Dec 21 17:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto what hack ?
Dec 21 17:27:00 <Bugpowder>	I would expect that after the BitVPS
Dec 21 17:27:01 <mircea_popescu>	o fuck you omg
Dec 21 17:27:04 <Bugpowder>	forum post
Dec 21 17:27:05 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 21 17:27:07 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE is fine
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Dec 21 17:27:12 <Anduck>	yeah i hacked it
Dec 21 17:27:12 <mod6>	it seems strange because div's havent been paid, you'd think someone would want to hang on until then!?
Dec 21 17:27:14 <Bugpowder>	in the blockchain
Dec 21 17:27:19 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: hey.. just tryin to keep it real :P
Dec 21 17:27:20 <Anduck>	o crap i said it here it was meant pm !!!
Dec 21 17:27:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i sent you a gribble tell but then you joined and didn't id with nickserv and then d/c'd. did you get it ?
Dec 21 17:27:43 <Bugpowder>	I just wish I had stink bid
Dec 21 17:27:44 <Bugpowder>	yes
Dec 21 17:27:45 <smickles>	someone run the dooglus scrypt
Dec 21 17:27:49 <Bugpowder>	I saw the message
Dec 21 17:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 very strange indeed.
Dec 21 17:27:54 <Bugpowder>	glanced at the post
Dec 21 17:28:00 <Bugpowder>	but have not had time to review.
Dec 21 17:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder a ok. wanted to see if it works
Dec 21 17:28:07 <Bugpowder>	and comment
Dec 21 17:28:34 <smickles>	maybe someone lost control of their gpg key
Dec 21 17:28:53 <mod6>	i was thinking fat-finger?
Dec 21 17:28:54 <EskimoBob>	now russians have "ASIC"'s https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131864.0
Dec 21 17:29:07 <Bugpowder>	The way to make money really is to just put insane bids out and be patient
Dec 21 17:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder whoever had those 18s and 14s made bank imo
Dec 21 17:29:45 <Bugpowder>	.0014.... sheeeit.  Dividend is 10% at that price
Dec 21 17:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Dec 21 17:30:29 <smickles>	oh lol, i siad 100, didn't I?
Dec 21 17:31:10 <EskimoBob>	LOL: 15 More of the World’s Most Dangerous People, Selected by You .. #5 Satoshi Nakamoto.  (wired.com)
Dec 21 17:31:18 <Bugpowder>	Nice
Dec 21 17:31:36 <mod6>	\o/
Dec 21 17:32:15 <EskimoBob>	or .o/
Dec 21 17:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	well, so the question in my mind... why isn't s.mpoe tanking.
Dec 21 17:32:33 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: you know
Dec 21 17:32:37 <Bugpowder>	Because they don't own any S.MPOE
Dec 21 17:32:42 <Diablo-D3>	I should be a dick, and never allow you to claim shares
Dec 21 17:33:16 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: you can always go out and suck one? How about that?
Dec 21 17:33:18 <Bugpowder>	Things look fine here http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Dec 21 17:33:34 <smickles>	EskimoBob: no f'n way satoshi?
Dec 21 17:33:48 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: you really need to get the latest updated list and clear up this crap.
Dec 21 17:34:01 <EskimoBob>	smickles: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/12/more-dangerous/
Dec 21 17:34:07 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: nefario sends the lists out _when he feels like it_
Dec 21 17:34:22 <Diablo-D3>	you're lucky assets holders even have partial lists
Dec 21 17:34:23 <Diablo-D3>	PLUS
Dec 21 17:34:24 <Diablo-D3>	PLUS
Dec 21 17:34:26 <EskimoBob>	smickles: this is a readers voted list
Dec 21 17:34:34 <Diablo-D3>	WHY THE FUCK DID IT TAKE YOU SO FUCKING LONG TO GO THROUGH THE CLAIMS PROCESS
Dec 21 17:34:39 <Ukto>	i like the #1 selected
Dec 21 17:34:43 <Diablo-D3>	YOU'D ALREADY BE ON THE LIST IF YOU DID IT WHEN YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO
Dec 21 17:34:47 <Bugpowder>	Off to a pinot noir tasting dinner.
Dec 21 17:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i have no idea why anyone would trust them
Dec 21 17:34:56 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: trust who?
Dec 21 17:34:59 <mircea_popescu>	the only logical explanation was that he needed this long to falsify them
Dec 21 17:35:00 <EskimoBob>	me? I did it in day 10 or so, so calm the fuck down
Dec 21 17:35:02 <Bugpowder>	I sent in my claims in the first hour
Dec 21 17:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	nefario's alleged lists.
Dec 21 17:35:09 <Bugpowder>	got my coins twice  :)
Dec 21 17:35:17 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: it matches what people have independently verified
Dec 21 17:35:40 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: and DMC's list is basically complete, its only missing like 3xx shares out of 11909
Dec 21 17:35:52 <Bugpowder>	later dudes.
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Dec 21 17:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that it matches what "people" have claimed means jack shit really.
Dec 21 17:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	OBVIOUSLY it would. that's why it takes 3 months to make them
Dec 21 17:36:20 <Diablo-D3>	no, I meant claimed to me
Dec 21 17:36:28 <mircea_popescu>	yes, claimed to you.
Dec 21 17:36:31 <Diablo-D3>	they tell me what the list should say, and then I check the list
Dec 21 17:36:37 <Diablo-D3>	no one has been wrong yet.
Dec 21 17:36:42 <mircea_popescu>	don't be dense. they can be working together.
Dec 21 17:36:47 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: well, all significant claims of SS, I've tied to long standing WoT idents
Dec 21 17:36:57 <Diablo-D3>	all 50 some of my shareholders?
Dec 21 17:36:58 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it wouldn't logically be small assets rtho
Dec 21 17:37:01 <smickles>	via cryptography
Dec 21 17:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 one or two.
Dec 21 17:37:10 <Diablo-D3>	its been about a dozen
Dec 21 17:37:19 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: I told you, I only hold few shares of your fucked up DMC :) It was a fkn disaster an looks like you still cant get your shit in order. Why are you angry at me? You are the manager.
Dec 21 17:37:29 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: _my_ shit?
Dec 21 17:37:31 <Diablo-D3>	bwhahahaha oh man
Dec 21 17:37:32 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i dunno, hudreds of btc is small, but is still nice change in your pocket
Dec 21 17:37:38 <Diablo-D3>	did I give nefario permission to close glbse? no
Dec 21 17:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ya but the trouble of making the shit up is likely not justifyied.
Dec 21 17:38:00 <Diablo-D3>	was he paid to do a job and failed to do it? yes.
Dec 21 17:38:13 <Diablo-D3>	it
Dec 21 17:38:22 <Diablo-D3>	it'd be like if NYSE just closed shop one day and burned the records
Dec 21 17:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	lettuce not exaggerate.
Dec 21 17:38:34 <Diablo-D3>	you couldnt blame the companies listed on NYSE
Dec 21 17:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	nyse is in the billions.
Dec 21 17:38:44 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: nyse is also RAN CORRECTLY
Dec 21 17:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	run*
Dec 21 17:38:59 <EskimoBob>	yes, dear Diablo-D3, your shit. Did I make all those retarded decisions or was it you? Umm... lets think about it for a second, or do you need a minute?
Dec 21 17:39:01 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: oh, and btw, if you fuck up like nefario did, I _will_ kill you.
Dec 21 17:39:16 <EskimoBob>	yawn..
Dec 21 17:39:16 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: just letting you know ahead of time.
Dec 21 17:39:23 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: I already have a suprise shut down date/time in mind. dont worry
Dec 21 17:39:24 *	Ukto grins
Dec 21 17:39:32 <smickles>	lol
Dec 21 17:39:35 *	Diablo-D3 kills Ukto preemptively
Dec 21 17:39:45 <Ukto>	but
Dec 21 17:39:46 <Ukto>	BUT
Dec 21 17:39:52 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: you mean _kill_ right?
Dec 21 17:39:55 <Ukto>	sadly for me.. it wont be as effective
Dec 21 17:39:58 <smickles>	you forgot the flare
Dec 21 17:40:01 <Ukto>	since I have the public list
Dec 21 17:40:12 <Ukto>	I cant extort ppl for money or such
Dec 21 17:40:24 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: and no, I didnt make any "decisions". nefario claimed he vetted assets, and then let the assets do things that, if they were real companies on a real stock exchange, would be highly illegal
Dec 21 17:40:34 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Dec 21 17:40:45 <smickles>	highly
Dec 21 17:41:02 <smickles>	not like 2 inches illegal
Dec 21 17:41:07 <Diablo-D3>	DMC only invested in companies. Those companies chose to scam investors, DMC had nothing to do with that decision.
Dec 21 17:41:09 <smickles>	we're talking 6 feet at least
Dec 21 17:41:15 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: under, yes.
Dec 21 17:41:45 <Ukto>	more like 6ft under
Dec 21 17:41:56 <smickles>	lol, inb4 same joke a third time
Dec 21 17:42:05 <EskimoBob>	so what are you telling me that you where just a mindless chicken, clicking buttons of "buy" and "sell" and swap?
Dec 21 17:42:09 <Ukto>	hehe
Dec 21 17:42:11 <EskimoBob>	interesting
Dec 21 17:42:19 <EskimoBob>	really fkn interesting.
Dec 21 17:42:23 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: was?
Dec 21 17:42:25 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 21 17:42:29 <EskimoBob>	you are like that retard usagi :)
Dec 21 17:42:29 <smickles>	I envision the muppets chickens
Dec 21 17:42:32 *	Ukto offers Diablo-D3 some feed
Dec 21 17:42:33 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: that pretty much saved DMC, yes.
Dec 21 17:42:54 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: he's trying to lay an egg. :P
Dec 21 17:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	6 feet illegal
Dec 21 17:43:04 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: so you tell me that you are incompetent chicken and not a portfolio manager?
Dec 21 17:43:29 <EskimoBob>	dude... I expected you to be something more
Dec 21 17:43:35 <JWU42>	=)
Dec 21 17:43:43 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: in the end, DMC bought back half the shares with the money made and still has about 2k btc worth of assets.
Dec 21 17:43:46 <EskimoBob>	not just buttons picking chicken
Dec 21 17:43:59 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: only 2k btc went into DMC.
Dec 21 17:44:03 <EskimoBob>	fuck.. I am so disappointed in you :(
Dec 21 17:44:17 <Ukto>	well
Dec 21 17:44:19 <Ukto>	lets leave it at that
Dec 21 17:44:24 <Ukto>	no need to repeat :)
Dec 21 17:44:30 <EskimoBob>	2K btc? really, ant after you where done, we had what? 0.02?
Dec 21 17:44:43 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: I agree
Dec 21 17:44:52 <EskimoBob>	why go over the same old shit
Dec 21 17:44:56 <Ukto>	heh. no need to nit-..peck.. >,>
Dec 21 17:45:03 <EskimoBob>	unless... itäs just for lulz
Dec 21 17:45:13 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: yes, share price dropped. only about 100 shares were ever sold above 0.66
Dec 21 17:45:14 <Ukto>	on a side note
Dec 21 17:45:23 <Ukto>	so, apparently tor has 'torchat' now?
Dec 21 17:45:37 <EskimoBob>	dude, you lost 98% of investors coin :)
Dec 21 17:45:45 <Diablo-D3>	how do you figure?
Dec 21 17:45:48 <Ukto>	is there a torfilexfer now ?
Dec 21 17:46:09 <EskimoBob>	go program stuff, you are good at it
Dec 21 17:46:25 <EskimoBob>	are you?
Dec 21 17:46:30 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: okay so, 20k shares sold, 2k of btc went into dmc.
Dec 21 17:46:30 <Ukto>	-_-
Dec 21 17:46:32 <Ukto>	fine. afk
Dec 21 17:46:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00359 BTC [+]
Dec 21 17:46:35 <Diablo-D3>	now, Im pretty sure you can do the math
Dec 21 17:47:17 <EskimoBob>	OK, lets leave it at that. I have no wish to make fun of you unless you beg for it :)
Dec 21 17:47:21 <Diablo-D3>	the average share sold price was already 0.10
Dec 21 17:47:42 <Diablo-D3>	I bought back half the shares, and we still had somewhere around that in assets
Dec 21 17:47:43 *	EskimoBob hugs Diablo-D3
Dec 21 17:47:55 *	EskimoBob hugs Diablo-D3 once more
Dec 21 17:48:01 <Diablo-D3>	so 10k shares, average sale price 0.10, 2k btc in assets.
Dec 21 17:48:14 <smickles>	i'm still waiting for a torphone
Dec 21 17:48:16 <Diablo-D3>	lets say I only had 1k btc in assets, I still lost 0%, nor gained 0%.
Dec 21 17:48:25 <Ukto>	mebbe I should do like btct
Dec 21 17:48:25 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: so your math is highly questionable
Dec 21 17:48:32 <Ukto>	and post shares of BF for sale
Dec 21 17:48:46 <EskimoBob>	no it is really simple. It was X and then it was X-99%
Dec 21 17:49:02 <Diablo-D3>	yes, because I quit selling shares at full price
Dec 21 17:49:09 <Diablo-D3>	no one wanted to buy 1btc shares.
Dec 21 17:49:19 <EskimoBob>	or if you like: it was 1 and then it was 1/98
Dec 21 17:49:32 <Diablo-D3>	I did so with permission of the first shareholders, so you cant run that angle either
Dec 21 17:49:44 *	EskimoBob hugs Diablo-D3 once more
Dec 21 17:49:54 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: do me a favor and explain to EskimoBob how math works
Dec 21 17:49:57 <Diablo-D3>	Im pretty sure he doesnt get it
Dec 21 17:50:26 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: ya know, the foundations of math are still being debated
Dec 21 17:50:38 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: now you're just trolling :<
Dec 21 17:50:53 <Ukto>	ROFLOL
Dec 21 17:51:21 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: not at all, look up mathmatical platonism vs empiricism
Dec 21 17:51:37 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: nothx
Dec 21 17:51:41 <smickles>	there's even a contingent of monists out there
Dec 21 17:52:27 <smickles>	and that's all confined to the scope of wether math actually exists or not
Dec 21 17:52:39 <smickles>	there's so much more controversy in math
Dec 21 17:52:40 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs
Dec 21 17:57:43 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto what's bf revenue look like ?
Dec 21 17:57:58 <thestringpuller>	Is Ukto around
Dec 21 18:03:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00062 = 0.558 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 18:07:23 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: what.. daily? :P
Dec 21 18:07:26 <Ukto>	hasnt even been open a month
Dec 21 18:07:40 <Ukto>	and for all .. what.. 57 trades? :P
Dec 21 18:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	well that answers your shares q :)
Dec 21 18:08:22 <Ukto>	oh, i was j/k
Dec 21 18:08:34 <Ukto>	was just tossing out a good waste of money idea :P
Dec 21 18:09:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]
Dec 21 18:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (507115 + 995840) * 0.0037 - (507115 * 0.0018 + 995840 * 0.0014)
Dec 21 18:10:12 <gribble>	3253.9505
Dec 21 18:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... someone(s) just made 3kish on mpex today.
Dec 21 18:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	i am jealous.
Dec 21 18:11:43 <kakobrekla>	maybe it was same person - infini-cash
Dec 21 18:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 21 18:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	ooo i see what you mean, sold into his own bids, create panic, buy cheap ?
Dec 21 18:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	devious.
Dec 21 18:13:20 <kakobrekla>	yeah, theres a couple of explanations of what i said.
Dec 21 18:13:34 <kakobrekla>	some of them dont even make sense.
Dec 21 18:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	haha'
Dec 21 18:14:54 <smickles>	;;calc 3253.9505 * 0.002
Dec 21 18:14:54 <gribble>	6.507901
Dec 21 18:15:13 <smickles>	not bad pay for a day of irc, eh mircea_popescu ;)
Dec 21 18:16:58 <Namjies>	mircea_popescu: your fees are indeed only 0.2% and MPEx allows selling/buying from yourself...
Dec 21 18:17:11 <Namjies>	So market manipulation is perfectly feasible.
Dec 21 18:18:33 <smickles>	all the while the shareholders of s.mpoe make btc from it
Dec 21 18:19:32 <smickles>	what did s.mpoe start out at 0.00001?
Dec 21 18:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	smickles 2433 first trade.
Dec 21 18:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies well the problem with anon market, you can't impede self-dealing.
Dec 21 18:20:36 <Namjies>	aye
Dec 21 18:20:44 <mircea_popescu>	course, apparently nobody is muchly falling for it.
Dec 21 18:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	tbh, i'd rather have market participants not fall for it than market not allowing it.
Dec 21 18:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	seems safer.
Dec 21 18:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	not to mention on the macro level it impedes significantly momentum trading.
Dec 21 18:22:06 <Namjies>	I always thought that was stupid to protect people against faked trends. The price trend of a stock should not be what makes you invest in a stock. Unless you're daytrading.
Dec 21 18:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	and if you are daytrading, well... risk is yours.
Dec 21 18:22:36 <Namjies>	The value of the business behind, it's current dividends and current related events should matter.
Dec 21 18:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9885 @ 0.00062 = 6.1287 BTC [+]
Dec 21 18:23:06 <Namjies>	If price is currently going down to top it, while news are good, all the better.
Dec 21 18:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Dec 21 18:28:10 <jurov>	live.coinbr.com back online at last, bitvps seems to have fixed the issue. but must still refill recent data
Dec 21 18:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	La prova di assunzione per quell'unico ambitissimo posto di aiuto del vice corruttore laterale mafioso, consisteva nel risolvere un problema di contabilità nera, basata su codici segreti di esponenti piduisti dell'intrallazzone politico-camorrista.
Dec 21 18:28:31 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha does anyone here know fantozzi ?
Dec 21 18:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00062 = 1.24 BTC [+]
Dec 21 18:29:45 <Ukto>	...
Dec 21 18:29:48 <Ukto>	did you say fatponzi ?
Dec 21 18:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	fantozzi ragioner ugo
Dec 21 18:30:27 <mircea_popescu>	matricola mille uno bara bis
Dec 21 18:30:37 <smickles>	it's like piglatin
Dec 21 18:30:51 <mircea_popescu>	(dell'ufficio sinistri)
Dec 21 18:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's pretty much italian monty python
Dec 21 18:31:35 <smickles>	crap, now i've gotta learn italian
Dec 21 18:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	the 70s/80s were very prolific in europe. france/spain had luis de funes (know him ?)
Dec 21 18:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	italians had paolo villaggio
Dec 21 18:31:54 <Ukto>	if they ar enot american, then no
Dec 21 18:31:54 <Ukto>	:PO
Dec 21 18:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	europe had better tv than the us since about 1950
Dec 21 18:32:38 <Anduck>	y
Dec 21 18:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	it still sucked, obviously, but at least wasn't quite as bad
Dec 21 18:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck cause over here we don't mind naked women and laughing at jesus&surogates.
Dec 21 18:33:35 <jurov>	i know the funes well, superfantozzi only a bit
Dec 21 18:33:41 <Anduck>	yeh
Dec 21 18:33:52 <jurov>	and UK had benny hill
Dec 21 18:33:56 <Anduck>	y was meant to be "yes"
Dec 21 18:34:10 <mircea_popescu>	maybe a bit too slapstick, mr hill.
Dec 21 18:35:40 <jurov>	whatever. just that i remember him much more. we had only one tv and parents had no taste for monty python
Dec 21 18:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 21 18:36:05 <jurov>	and later, getting stuff with proper subtitles is pita. so i never saw much of teh pythons
Dec 21 18:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062 = 2.48 BTC [+]
Dec 21 18:37:07 <Ukto>	are you being served...
Dec 21 18:37:12 <Ukto>	red dwarf
Dec 21 18:37:18 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 21 18:37:21 <Ukto>	oh
Dec 21 18:37:22 <Ukto>	mr bean
Dec 21 18:37:31 <Ukto>	rowen atkin in general
Dec 21 18:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	im fluent so i don't used subtitles. it's a great boon.
Dec 21 18:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
Dec 21 18:47:19 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu
Dec 21 18:47:56 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, you ears aren't fucked, that is a boon indeed
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Dec 21 18:49:23 <jurov>	live.coinbr.com is now fully restored. s.mpoe daily chart is incredibly dull but the cause is somewhere else
Dec 21 18:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00062 = 1.302 BTC [+]
Dec 21 18:53:34 <jurov>	and the s.dice one sorely needs fix
Dec 21 18:54:24 <jurov>	Indeed someone is doing such trades on purpose to screw the charts.
Dec 21 18:58:43 <jurov>	indeed someone is overusing that word
Dec 21 18:59:28 <jurov>	indeed someone is talking with himself
Dec 21 19:00:26 <thestringpuller>	jurov indeed
Dec 21 19:00:47 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you should host a mirror of the blockchain
Dec 21 19:02:16 <jurov>	indeed. so btctalk can freak out "mircea is going to manipulate our preciousssss blockchain"
Dec 21 19:03:42 *	jurov kicks himself "back to work on s.dice chart, you slave"
Dec 21 19:04:29 *	smickles receives a similar kick to get to coding that impossible mpex order# grabber ;)
Dec 21 19:09:24 <da2ce7>	hey guys... we have a windows release of OT and Moneychanger :)
Dec 21 19:09:43 <da2ce7>	maybe it is time that people can start to look into using OT for asset mgmt
Dec 21 19:09:56 <da2ce7>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77301.0
Dec 21 19:10:16 <da2ce7>	mircea_popescu: ^^ you may be esp intersted in this :)
Dec 21 19:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00062 = 5.642 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 19:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	why, causde of windows ?
Dec 21 19:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i was thinking about hosting one actually, mostly since i discovered clients are down under 20k
Dec 21 19:15:52 <da2ce7>	mircea_popescu: becasue we already have good linux and mac support... and there is many users for windwos.
Dec 21 19:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Dec 21 19:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00062 = 7.068 BTC [+]
Dec 21 19:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	well, this is enough excitement for one night. laters all!
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Dec 21 19:21:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5840 @ 0.00062 = 3.6208 BTC [+]
Dec 21 19:25:05 <jurov>	chart fix done. smickles, take that.
Dec 21 19:27:20 <thestringpuller>	your charts are lame
Dec 21 19:27:27 <thestringpuller>	waaaah no gradients
Dec 21 19:27:32 <thestringpuller>	waaaah no rounded corners
Dec 21 19:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00185621 = 5.5686 BTC [-]
Dec 21 19:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1709 @ 0.00245718 = 4.1993 BTC [+]
Dec 21 19:29:03 <jurov>	da2ce7, you hope to see OT interface for mpex?
Dec 21 19:29:36 <da2ce7>	jurov: well OT is a backend, not a interface.
Dec 21 19:30:29 <jurov>	and what is interface to ot called?
Dec 21 19:31:08 <jurov>	thestringpuller, weren't you to get some funding for chart development?
Dec 21 19:31:18 <thestringpuller>	nah i don't need funding
Dec 21 19:31:21 <thestringpuller>	self funded yo
Dec 21 19:31:21 <jurov>	that never materialized?
Dec 21 19:31:34 <thestringpuller>	i was going to pay you to make some charts
Dec 21 19:31:35 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 21 19:31:42 <thestringpuller>	but you said you weren't a graphic designer
Dec 21 19:32:20 <jurov>	okay, that's well possible. did you find someone?
Dec 21 19:33:23 <thestringpuller>	yea we're doing some sketches
Dec 21 19:33:27 <thestringpuller>	the next few weeks
Dec 21 19:34:35 <jurov>	let me know if something comes out of it.
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Dec 21 19:36:50 <jurov>	google charts does have candlestick, but it looks more graph types can't be combined in one chart
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Dec 21 19:39:40 <thestringpuller>	i want to make interactive infographics
Dec 21 19:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4132 @ 0.00062 = 2.5618 BTC [+]
Dec 21 19:42:40 <thestringpuller>	DA HOBBIT
Dec 21 19:42:46 <thestringpuller>	or There and Back Again
Dec 21 19:43:11 <jurov>	enough excitement for me, too
Dec 21 19:43:18 <jurov>	bye
Dec 21 19:44:08 <thestringpuller>	why is coinbr still down btw :P
Dec 21 19:45:31 <jurov>	It is just you, coinbr.com appears to be Online!
Dec 21 19:45:41 <jurov>	or does it show some error?
Dec 21 19:46:16 <Namjies>	It shows an error
Dec 21 19:46:24 <Namjies>	Forbidden
Dec 21 19:46:25 <Namjies>	You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Dec 21 19:46:25 <Namjies>	Apache Server at coinbr.com Port 443
Dec 21 19:46:42 <thestringpuller>	yah
Dec 21 19:46:43 <jurov>	what is the exact address?
Dec 21 19:48:14 <jurov>	https://coinbr.com/ works. https://www.coinbr.com/ does not
Dec 21 19:52:11 <thestringpuller>	nope
Dec 21 19:52:15 <thestringpuller>	rigbaby
Dec 21 19:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00062 = 3.162 BTC [+]
Dec 21 19:54:02 <jurov>	found the problem
Dec 21 19:54:29 <jurov>	replacement server had some weird AllowFrom config
Dec 21 19:54:37 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 21 19:54:37 <jurov>	should wiork now
Dec 21 19:56:59 <jurov>	was a little reminder from mr.murphy
Dec 21 19:57:21 <smickles>	g'damn, DO YOU REALIZE HOW CLOSE WE CAME TO FILLING MY 0.00003 BID FOR S.DICE TODAY!
Dec 21 20:00:32 <jurov>	i'm sure seller doublechecked the order, to avoid eating such crumbs
Dec 21 20:03:58 <Diablo-D3>	lol.
Dec 21 20:04:00 <Diablo-D3>	poor smickles
Dec 21 20:04:44 <smickles>	jurov: yeah, "the answer is probably not anywhere near it, bitch"
Dec 21 20:04:54 <smickles>	lol, misplaced quotes
Dec 21 20:06:05 <jurov>	so, seems we all survived the end of the world well (perhaps except bitvps)
Dec 21 20:06:32 <jurov>	goodnight then
Dec 21 20:07:06 <smickles>	nn :)
Dec 21 20:07:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7310 @ 0.00062 = 4.5322 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 20:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3034 @ 0.00062 = 1.8811 BTC [+]
Dec 21 20:40:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00358999 = 5.744 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 20:54:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00358999 = 17.95 BTC [+]
Dec 21 21:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00062 = 1.302 BTC [+]
Dec 21 21:06:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13172 @ 0.00062 = 8.1666 BTC [+]
Dec 21 21:17:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14568 @ 0.00062 = 9.0322 BTC [+]
Dec 21 21:19:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00062 = 9.362 BTC [+]
Dec 21 21:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7334 @ 0.00062 = 4.5471 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 21:37:13 <thestringpuller>	;ticker
Dec 21 21:37:17 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 21 21:37:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.49002, Best ask: 13.54777, Bid-ask spread: 0.05775, Last trade: 13.49001, 24 hour volume: 24307.30887445, 24 hour low: 13.41999, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.51929
Dec 21 21:37:44 <thestringpuller>	;;help
Dec 21 21:37:45 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Dec 21 21:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7147 @ 0.00062 = 4.4311 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 22:31:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11004 @ 0.00062 = 6.8225 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 22:44:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00062 = 4.96 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 22:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00062 = 8.122 BTC [+]
Dec 21 23:07:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062 = 2.356 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 23:14:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00062 = 0.868 BTC [+]
Dec 21 23:18:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3414 @ 0.00062 = 2.1167 BTC [+]
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Dec 21 23:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4966 @ 0.00062 = 3.0789 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 00:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11307 @ 0.00062 = 7.0103 BTC [+]
Dec 22 00:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7089 @ 0.00062 = 4.3952 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 00:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00062 = 7.378 BTC [+]
Dec 22 00:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10490 @ 0.00062 = 6.5038 BTC [+]
Dec 22 00:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11848 @ 0.00062 = 7.3458 BTC [+]
Dec 22 00:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00062 = 7.564 BTC [+]
Dec 22 00:59:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00062 = 2.294 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 01:30:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00062 = 2.201 BTC [+]
Dec 22 01:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00062 = 4.495 BTC [+]
Dec 22 01:47:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7338 @ 0.00062 = 4.5496 BTC [+]
Dec 22 01:50:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00062 = 8.68 BTC [+]
Dec 22 01:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00062 = 3.627 BTC [+]
Dec 22 02:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062 = 6.386 BTC [+]
Dec 22 02:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6013 @ 0.00062 = 3.7281 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 02:24:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062 = 3.782 BTC [+]
Dec 22 02:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13627 @ 0.00062 = 8.4487 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 02:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5869 @ 0.00062 = 3.6388 BTC [+]
Dec 22 02:47:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00062 = 3.937 BTC [+]
Dec 22 02:51:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14686 @ 0.00062 = 9.1053 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 02:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00062 = 5.208 BTC [+]
Dec 22 02:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00062 = 3.162 BTC [+]
Dec 22 03:01:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3201 @ 0.00062 = 1.9846 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 03:17:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+]
Dec 22 03:20:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7667 @ 0.00062 = 4.7535 BTC [+]
Dec 22 03:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
Dec 22 03:55:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]
Dec 22 04:01:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00062 = 3.503 BTC [+]
Dec 22 04:03:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00062 = 7.564 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 04:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00062 = 0.186 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 04:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00062 = 19.84 BTC [+]
Dec 22 04:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00062 = 5.301 BTC [+]
Dec 22 04:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 22 04:50:06 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0014 / 0.00161994 / 0.0036 (1762593 shares, 2,855.31 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00308214 / 0.0037 (9018148 shares, 27,795.20 BTC)
Dec 22 04:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Dec 22 04:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00062 / 0.00062 / 0.00062 (3772948 shares, 2,339.23 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00054332 / 0.00063995 (103148077 shares, 56,043.36 BTC)
Dec 22 04:52:57 <Anduck>	how much profit s.mpoe makes a mo?
Dec 22 04:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	it varies
Dec 22 04:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	made 4k, made 400
Dec 22 04:57:40 <Anduck>	ok
Dec 22 04:57:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/ see the last paragraph there, it links to all monthly reports.
Dec 22 05:02:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00062 = 1.674 BTC [+]
Dec 22 05:03:22 <Ukto>	alright
Dec 22 05:03:24 <Ukto>	now I am confused
Dec 22 05:03:56 <Ukto>	https://btct.co/security/BMF <-->  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.msg1414910#msg1414910 wtf?
Dec 22 05:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	what's confusing ?
Dec 22 05:05:18 <Ukto>	oh, i see, its not open for voting on btct
Dec 22 05:05:30 <Ukto>	brun just cant hide it from view
Dec 22 05:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 22 05:05:46 <Ukto>	i had an eamil from btct telling me BMF was adding, and to go vote
Dec 22 05:05:53 *	Ukto sighs
Dec 22 05:06:43 <Namjies>	Well how unsurprising
Dec 22 05:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he got no'd.
Dec 22 05:06:58 <Ukto>	no, votes are disabled on btct for it
Dec 22 05:07:03 <Ukto>	Namjies: what is?
Dec 22 05:07:30 <Ukto>	the relisting part, the liquidation part, or the fact that he wants the 5/10btc offer
Dec 22 05:07:31 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 22 05:08:30 <Namjies>	Annything
Dec 22 05:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 22 05:08:54 <mircea_popescu>	wait, so btct doesn't really list by voting ? now i'm confused.
Dec 22 05:09:04 <Ukto>	apparently
Dec 22 05:09:12 <Ukto>	if you mentioned wanting to list on btct
Dec 22 05:09:15 <Ukto>	he creates an asset
Dec 22 05:09:20 <Ukto>	and puts it in public view
Dec 22 05:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	so basically burnside is using the moderators to disclaim any liability in case anything goes wrong,
Dec 22 05:09:26 <Ukto>	even though its not 'live'
Dec 22 05:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	but otherwise they don't really get to decide anything
Dec 22 05:09:31 <markedathome>	does list by voting only occur for new assets not imported ones?
Dec 22 05:10:40 <Ukto>	so burnside creates asset (its in public view), then btct sends an email to everyone that there is a new asset and to vote, then issuer begins editing profile, then the issuer unlocks the asset for voting
Dec 22 05:10:54 <Namjies>	Wait, I'm importing BTC-BOND and it appeared instantly, but for voting.
Dec 22 05:11:09 <Namjies>	It can't be traded or anything and I have to wait for votes.
Dec 22 05:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	im guessing we have the new nefario.
Dec 22 05:12:40 <Namjies>	I'm pretty sure there's actual voting required...
Dec 22 05:12:45 <Ukto>	Namjies: kinda curious honestly, why pick btct over bitfunder? (I dont ask about crypto for obvious interface reasons)
Dec 22 05:12:52 <Ukto>	Namjies: there is
Dec 22 05:12:58 <Ukto>	it comes when the issuers unlock for voting
Dec 22 05:14:06 <Namjies>	Yes
Dec 22 05:14:06 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.msg1414728#msg1414728 phungus is doing a pretty good job of support.
Dec 22 05:16:09 <Namjies>	Good thing.
Dec 22 05:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons your fav is getting hammered into dust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg1413923#msg1413923 and fol)
Dec 22 05:16:46 <Namjies>	Yes, I think arij and phungus will be really great for BitVPS.
Dec 22 05:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	the business model is pretty good, the brand is well known, this may well work. just needs more hours than 1 person has it'd seem
Dec 22 05:17:54 <Namjies>	no, rg was able to do it alone.
Dec 22 05:18:05 <mircea_popescu>	ya well rg is a nut.
Dec 22 05:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	the vc theory says 3 man teams are best in any case.
Dec 22 05:18:23 <Namjies>	He just got another job and working 65+ hours a week + juggling with BitVPS although neglecting it.
Dec 22 05:18:43 <Namjies>	on top of his 65 hours of work...
Dec 22 05:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=10260;type=avatar lol nice logo
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Dec 22 05:36:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2007 @ 0.00062 = 1.2443 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 05:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00062 = 3.069 BTC [+]
Dec 22 05:47:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1867 @ 0.00062 = 1.1575 BTC [+]
Dec 22 05:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7540 @ 0.00062 = 4.6748 BTC [+]
Dec 22 05:54:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7799 @ 0.00062 = 4.8354 BTC [+]
Dec 22 05:54:20 <Anduck>	i like that logo btw
Dec 22 05:54:33 <Anduck>	=P
Dec 22 05:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	which ?
Dec 22 05:55:09 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: the bvps logo
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Dec 22 05:56:09 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Dec 22 05:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	not badf
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Dec 22 05:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00062 = 8.742 BTC [+]
Dec 22 06:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4907 @ 0.00062 = 3.0423 BTC [+]
Dec 22 06:22:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00062 = 5.022 BTC [+]
Dec 22 06:30:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10968 @ 0.00062 = 6.8002 BTC [+]
Dec 22 06:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00062 = 1.922 BTC [+]
Dec 22 06:38:29 *	UncleScrooge (~UncleScro@199.26.85.34) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 22 06:46:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11414 @ 0.00062 = 7.0767 BTC [+]
Dec 22 06:48:34 <Ukto>	well
Dec 22 06:48:37 <Ukto>	I blame mircea_popescu
Dec 22 06:48:39 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 22 06:48:46 <Ukto>	its ALL his fault
Dec 22 06:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00062 = 5.208 BTC [+]
Dec 22 06:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6583 @ 0.00062 = 4.0815 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 07:11:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00062 = 7.564 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 07:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6628 @ 0.00062 = 4.1094 BTC [+]
Dec 22 07:18:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00062 = 5.518 BTC [+]
Dec 22 07:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	what'd i do ?
Dec 22 07:26:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00062 = 4.309 BTC [+]
Dec 22 07:26:36 <Ukto>	do?
Dec 22 07:26:42 <Ukto>	what HAVENT you done?
Dec 22 07:26:42 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 22 07:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/jus-sayin/
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Dec 22 07:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00062 = 4.154 BTC [+]
Dec 22 08:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00062 = 6.665 BTC [+]
Dec 22 08:12:26 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Dec 22 08:13:34 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Dec 22 08:13:37 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Dec 22 08:13:48 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Dec 22 08:13:50 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Dec 22 08:17:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7601 @ 0.00062 = 4.7126 BTC [+]
Dec 22 08:24:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2061 @ 0.00062 = 1.2778 BTC [+]
Dec 22 08:27:17 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Dec 22 08:27:30 <kakobrekla>	TELLME
Dec 22 08:27:43 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
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Dec 22 08:31:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00062 = 2.604 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 08:33:20 <kakobrekla>	lolz
Dec 22 08:33:20 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131993.0
Dec 22 08:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,stat ?
Dec 22 08:37:43 <gribble>	Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
Dec 22 08:38:16 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla whoa
Dec 22 08:38:39 <kakobrekla>	people suckin balls.
Dec 22 08:41:01 <kakobrekla>	so, what gonna happen with bitmarket.eu nao
Dec 22 08:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	nothing likel;y
Dec 22 08:42:50 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Dec 22 08:42:52 <kakobrekla>	closedown?
Dec 22 08:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00062 = 6.51 BTC [+]
Dec 22 08:44:48 <kakobrekla>	i cannot belive the balls the guy had to move clients funds to not only leveraged platform but also putting the funds in someone elses hands
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Dec 22 08:49:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00062 = 5.146 BTC [+]
Dec 22 08:53:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00358998 = 4.308 BTC [-]
Dec 22 08:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla indeed.
Dec 22 08:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	me either really.
Dec 22 09:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11332 @ 0.00062 = 7.0258 BTC [+]
Dec 22 09:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	the problem i envisage i drama doesn;t last like it used to
Dec 22 09:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin magazine implodes ? it's gone in a day
Dec 22 09:02:55 <mircea_popescu>	the ver privacy fiasco ? they're trying hard to resuscitate it but it died overnight
Dec 22 09:03:20 <mircea_popescu>	this bitcoinmarket idiot blows it in unimaginable stupid way ? next day it's all deflated.
Dec 22 09:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	this looks like drama inflationary spiral of doom.
Dec 22 09:04:05 <kakobrekla>	You know, I can't drink whiskey like I used to could.
Dec 22 09:04:06 <kakobrekla>	I get the shits every time, don't you know?
Dec 22 09:05:46 <mircea_popescu>	hehehe
Dec 22 09:06:20 <mircea_popescu>	i hadn't been drinking much the past few years. recently i had dinner at a serb's restaurant with friends
Dec 22 09:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	very nice guy, family atmosphere, it morphed into an all nighter
Dec 22 09:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3169 @ 0.00062 = 1.9648 BTC [+]
Dec 22 09:06:59 <mircea_popescu>	i ended up drinking 28 Slivovitz's and then walked out.
Dec 22 09:07:06 <kakobrekla>	lolz
Dec 22 09:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	in short, i say it's like riding a bike
Dec 22 09:07:11 <mircea_popescu>	you never forgrty.
Dec 22 09:07:15 <kakobrekla>	:D
Dec 22 09:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	forget*
Dec 22 09:13:01 <kakobrekla>	lol m4v3rs avatar is so apropriate
Dec 22 09:13:07 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=1199;type=avatar
Dec 22 09:18:55 <mircea_popescu>	has face needs palm
Dec 22 09:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	"1) GLBSE still owes us money, but the total debt is much less than 5000BTC. "
Dec 22 09:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	i thought glbse paid out ?
Dec 22 09:19:44 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Dec 22 09:20:08 <kakobrekla>	at this point anyone can claim anything
Dec 22 09:20:28 <mircea_popescu>	this is the asicminer guy
Dec 22 09:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	or girl
Dec 22 09:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	is it a guy or a girl ?
Dec 22 09:20:56 <kakobrekla>	there are no girls on the internets
Dec 22 09:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	other than my propertah.
Dec 22 09:26:45 <thestringpuller>	SIR mircea_popescu of Romania
Dec 22 09:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 22 09:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	hallo
Dec 22 09:27:47 <thestringpuller>	less than 3 million shares to go
Dec 22 09:28:11 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 6200 - 2909.387
Dec 22 09:28:11 <gribble>	3290.613
Dec 22 09:28:23 <thestringpuller>	merry christmas mr. popescu ;)
Dec 22 09:28:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00062 = 4.867 BTC [+]
Dec 22 09:32:51 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 22 09:32:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.35200, Best ask: 13.37197, Bid-ask spread: 0.01997, Last trade: 13.37198, 24 hour volume: 19786.24376264, 24 hour low: 13.35010, 24 hour high: 13.58998, 24 hour vwap: 13.47721
Dec 22 09:33:03 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.DICE
Dec 22 09:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0014 / 0.00162128 / 0.0036 (1763793 shares, 2,859.62 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0030822 / 0.0037 (9019348 shares, 27,799.51 BTC)
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Dec 22 09:39:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2848 @ 0.00062 = 1.7658 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 09:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/24CJl.jpg so giga is making his own sort-of stock exchange
Dec 22 09:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	if the asicminer ppl do too that will be 3+2 = 5
Dec 22 09:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	or wait, Diablo-D3 was making one too ?
Dec 22 09:47:28 <kakobrekla>	why dont i have one or two?
Dec 22 09:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	ya, have two, hire pr for each, popcorn.
Dec 22 09:49:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062 = 3.286 BTC [+]
Dec 22 09:49:34 <kakobrekla>	ya have them catfight.
Dec 22 09:49:45 <kakobrekla>	dis is gonna be costly.
Dec 22 09:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	get like a really tall blonde with nice legs and big tits for one
Dec 22 09:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	and a really hot brunette with kardashian ass for the other
Dec 22 09:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	and buy a mud puddle.
Dec 22 09:50:09 <kakobrekla>	:>
Dec 22 09:50:29 <mircea_popescu>	then your gf can referee
Dec 22 09:50:30 <kakobrekla>	i thought we already were in one
Dec 22 09:50:45 <mircea_popescu>	nah, this is crappy water mud. you want silicone gel mud.
Dec 22 09:51:05 <kakobrekla>	oh didnt know that exists
Dec 22 09:51:09 <mircea_popescu>	haha sure.
Dec 22 09:51:12 <kakobrekla>	well thats why we have the pros around
Dec 22 09:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	expensive as shit but looks much muddier on camera.
Dec 22 09:51:37 <kakobrekla>	heh
Dec 22 09:53:00 <thestringpuller>	what's the point of all these stock exchanges
Dec 22 09:53:07 <thestringpuller>	these niggas need to stop saturating the market
Dec 22 09:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller people can code, people want to code. as a result we get piles of code.
Dec 22 09:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	people hate reading code, as a result the piles are shitty, useless, unaudited code.
Dec 22 09:53:36 <kakobrekla>	i dont want to code
Dec 22 09:53:38 <thestringpuller>	code something useful like smickle's bot
Dec 22 09:53:40 <kakobrekla>	i code cause im lazy
Dec 22 09:53:45 <thestringpuller>	that will destroy the MPOE bot mwahaha
Dec 22 09:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller tbh mpoe bot is a miracle of longevity.
Dec 22 09:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	it's been trading since august ffs.
Dec 22 09:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard of this before.
Dec 22 09:54:27 <thestringpuller>	update yo code
Dec 22 09:54:35 <thestringpuller>	instead of getting laid in mumbai
Dec 22 09:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	"update". you don't fix what ain't broken.
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Dec 22 09:55:45 <thestringpuller>	yea you do
Dec 22 09:55:51 <thestringpuller>	it's how you make companies like aapl ;)
Dec 22 10:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13445 @ 0.00062 = 8.3359 BTC [+]
Dec 22 10:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00062 = 5.704 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 10:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15166 @ 0.00062 = 9.4029 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 10:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8204 @ 0.00062 = 5.0865 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 10:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00062 = 6.944 BTC [+]
Dec 22 11:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131993.0
Dec 22 11:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	so -pr is popular nao ?!
Dec 22 11:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	where is the world going to@
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Dec 22 11:19:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00062 = 6.634 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 11:24:45 <smickles>	heh, soon she'll be sent crowd funded flowers or something
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Dec 22 11:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062 = 7.254 BTC [+]
Dec 22 11:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 300 @ 0.04750236 = 14.2507 BTC [-]
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Dec 22 11:25:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 300 @ 0.07196172 = 21.5885 BTC [-]
Dec 22 11:26:07 <smickles>	lol, WTF? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77870.msg1415296#msg1415296
Dec 22 11:26:38 <smickles>	that sounds a bit off from what I had come to expect out of evoorhees
Dec 22 11:28:00 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
Dec 22 11:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	it does...
Dec 22 11:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	a well, other people's humour is a bit like other people's farts
Dec 22 11:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't quite compare to one's own.
Dec 22 11:30:45 <smickles>	well, at firs it seemd like a joke, but it had a weight to it
Dec 22 11:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	a weight ?
Dec 22 11:32:54 <smickles>	the dividend is down to .00012 per share now
Dec 22 11:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	so it lost like 4k past 2 days ?
Dec 22 11:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	aite, i got a meeting. bbl.
Dec 22 11:34:10 <smickles>	do well :)
Dec 22 11:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00062 = 2.263 BTC [+]
Dec 22 11:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5899 @ 0.00062 = 3.6574 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 12:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00062 = 2.17 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 12:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 12:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9355 @ 0.00062 = 5.8001 BTC [+]
Dec 22 12:50:56 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 22 12:50:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.34401, Best ask: 13.39990, Bid-ask spread: 0.05589, Last trade: 13.34401, 24 hour volume: 19065.94294403, 24 hour low: 13.32130, 24 hour high: 13.58998, 24 hour vwap: 13.46577
Dec 22 12:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44900 @ 0.00062 = 27.838 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 13:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00062 = 1.116 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 13:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 574 @ 0.00358998 = 2.0606 BTC [-]
Dec 22 13:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00062 = 6.944 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 13:39:58 <EskimoBob>	what's new?
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Dec 22 13:55:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00062 = 3.596 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 14:00:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15058 @ 0.00062 = 9.336 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 14:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00062 = 6.758 BTC [+]
Dec 22 14:18:58 <jurov>	it looks like mircea's selling the stock too cheaply
Dec 22 14:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062 = 6.386 BTC [+]
Dec 22 14:20:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00062 = 7.936 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 14:34:47 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=132961.0
Dec 22 14:36:30 <EskimoBob>	Ouch!
Dec 22 14:39:09 <EskimoBob>	I also received a letter from that little shit bird usagi. Looks like all the crap he was spreading in the forum, that I do not hold any shares in those disasters he "managed", was a lie.
Dec 22 14:39:52 <EskimoBob>	I guess usagi is even a bigger liar than I ever expected
Dec 22 14:43:24 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: so basically
Dec 22 14:43:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062 = 6.882 BTC [+]
Dec 22 14:43:37 <Diablo-D3>	everyone and their grandmother managed to scam dmc.
Dec 22 14:43:48 <Diablo-D3>	fucking nefario =/
Dec 22 14:45:28 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: while you're ramming your cock down the japanese princess's throat, link to my thread.
Dec 22 14:50:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00062 = 6.572 BTC [+]
Dec 22 14:52:11 <EskimoBob>	:)
Dec 22 14:55:37 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: you better bump that one   [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=132961.0]usagi, NYAN, BMF do not own DMC shares[/url]
Dec 22 14:55:51 <EskimoBob>	correction:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.0
Dec 22 14:58:17 <EskimoBob>	you now how this shit storm is gong to end? Nefario will manage to clean up his part and is home free. Then rest of the scammy fucker have nowhere to hide
Dec 22 14:58:46 <PsychoticBoy>	the revealing of the scammers
Dec 22 14:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062 = 3.782 BTC [+]
Dec 22 15:00:02 <PsychoticBoy>	now some have to create a new scam to mask the previous one
Dec 22 15:00:22 <EskimoBob>	add * scammer list,  except myself :)
Dec 22 15:00:41 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Dec 22 15:01:10 <EskimoBob>	there is probably a bash script for that
Dec 22 15:03:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5627 @ 0.00062 = 3.4887 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 15:05:35 <jurov>	bash script for hiding the scams?
Dec 22 15:05:38 <jurov>	rm -rf
Dec 22 15:05:40 <jurov>	simple
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Dec 22 15:26:26 <EskimoBob>	jurov: you mean Read Mail Really Fast : sudo rm -rf /*
Dec 22 15:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2031 @ 0.00062 = 1.2592 BTC [+]
Dec 22 15:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]
Dec 22 15:37:04 <thestringpuller>	that doesnt work always
Dec 22 15:37:35 <EskimoBob>	su - then, if you can :)
Dec 22 15:37:48 <thestringpuller>	there you go
Dec 22 15:38:21 <EskimoBob>	or yo can practice in your home dir with ./*
Dec 22 15:38:29 <EskimoBob>	works every time
Dec 22 15:39:04 <thestringpuller>	all my dirs are git repoed
Dec 22 15:39:15 <thestringpuller>	for that very reason
Dec 22 15:39:37 <thestringpuller>	i also prevent the * glob from expanding into hidden dirs
Dec 22 15:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
Dec 22 15:40:30 <thestringpuller>	the mpex link above needs changing
Dec 22 15:40:54 <EskimoBob>	you mean deleting?
Dec 22 15:41:21 <thestringpuller>	you must really hate mpex
Dec 22 15:41:31 <EskimoBob>	no, not at all
Dec 22 15:42:04 <thestringpuller>	you always rag on it
Dec 22 15:42:04 <EskimoBob>	"hate" is too good for something as worthless as that crap :)
Dec 22 15:42:28 <thestringpuller>	where is your exchange?
Dec 22 15:43:06 <EskimoBob>	my exchange? Why do I need one? I use ltcglobal for now
Dec 22 15:43:06 <thestringpuller>	why is it "crap"?
Dec 22 15:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12051 @ 0.00062 = 7.4716 BTC [+]
Dec 22 15:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00062 = 9.362 BTC [+]
Dec 22 15:44:37 <thestringpuller>	of course no reply
Dec 22 15:44:41 <thestringpuller>	;)
Dec 22 15:44:59 <kakobrekla>	cause no rounded corners duh
Dec 22 15:45:18 <thestringpuller>	waaaah no js
Dec 22 15:45:29 <thestringpuller>	waaah no gradients
Dec 22 15:45:33 <EskimoBob>	dude, I am not here all the time.
Dec 22 15:45:56 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob the hater.
Dec 22 15:46:08 <kakobrekla>	but not all the time thestringpuller.
Dec 22 15:46:08 <thestringpuller>	of the bitcoin haterz club
Dec 22 15:46:10 <EskimoBob>	rounded corners, lol. Yes, eye candy is how you pick a exchange to use
Dec 22 15:46:32 *	EskimoBob hugs kakobrekla
Dec 22 15:46:34 <EskimoBob>	you see
Dec 22 15:46:49 <EskimoBob>	I am actually really nice :)
Dec 22 15:47:31 <thestringpuller>	when not hating on people
Dec 22 15:47:40 <thestringpuller>	we are all nice
Dec 22 15:48:15 <EskimoBob>	btw, my wife makes the best gin&tonic in the world. I am going to have one...
Dec 22 15:52:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062 = 3.72 BTC [+]
Dec 22 15:56:30 <PsychoticBoy>	Diablo-D3, I was just reading that usagi did not own DMC shares, I got news for you, IIRC usagi`s BMF spreadsheet showed that BMF owned 148 ABM shares, now tell you what, No one owns near that number and also no email that fits usagi.
Dec 22 15:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11287 @ 0.00062 = 6.9979 BTC [+]
Dec 22 16:01:30 <Namjies>	usagi has the email glbseuser@hotmail.com
Dec 22 16:02:47 <Namjies>	Not his official email usagi@tsukino.ca
Dec 22 16:02:53 <Namjies>	and he's on my lists
Dec 22 16:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4072 @ 0.00062 = 2.5246 BTC [+]
Dec 22 16:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9498 @ 0.00062 = 5.8888 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 16:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00062 = 5.177 BTC [+]
Dec 22 16:45:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1461 @ 0.00348056 = 5.0851 BTC [-]
Dec 22 16:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00347206 = 1.3506 BTC [-]
Dec 22 16:48:01 <PsychoticBoy>	in that case
Dec 22 16:48:11 <PsychoticBoy>	I have not said a word
Dec 22 16:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062 = 4.898 BTC [+]
Dec 22 16:58:54 <Namjies>	Does that mean he has more, then?
Dec 22 17:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8420 @ 0.00062 = 5.2204 BTC [+]
Dec 22 17:10:16 <PsychoticBoy>	uhh in the case of that email address, yes that addy owns 210
Dec 22 17:16:41 <Namjies>	I can confirm it's usagi
Dec 22 17:17:30 <Namjies>	So I'm not sure, but it seems to be an issue regarding DMC only.
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Dec 22 17:24:14 <PsychoticBoy>	that is probably the case
Dec 22 17:29:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00062 = 4.96 BTC [+]
Dec 22 17:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00062 = 5.797 BTC [+]
Dec 22 17:36:46 <dub>	EskimoBob: hendricks gin, tonic, slice of cucumber
Dec 22 17:39:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6120 @ 0.00062 = 3.7944 BTC [+]
Dec 22 17:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00062 = 5.704 BTC [+]
Dec 22 17:53:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00062 = 1.922 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 18:03:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00062 = 6.479 BTC [+]
Dec 22 18:24:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9472 @ 0.00062 = 5.8726 BTC [+]
Dec 22 18:26:21 <Diablo-D3>	[04:01:30] <Namjies> usagi has the email glbseuser@hotmail.com
Dec 22 18:26:32 <Diablo-D3>	then hes going to have to publicily admit that
Dec 22 18:29:27 <Diablo-D3>	glbseuser is on the list with 1310
Dec 22 18:29:34 <Diablo-D3>	which is still less than he claimed
Dec 22 18:36:35 <Namjies>	Sales/purchases can occur between last you checked and GLBSE closed.
Dec 22 18:37:02 <Namjies>	Claims made before data was disclosed was last known amount.
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Dec 22 18:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6269 @ 0.00062 = 3.8868 BTC [+]
Dec 22 18:46:18 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: Im not the party of interest here, though
Dec 22 18:46:19 <Diablo-D3>	usagi is
Dec 22 18:46:31 <Diablo-D3>	usagi was claiming about half of the 10k shares
Dec 22 18:46:38 <Diablo-D3>	before I sold the other 10k
Dec 22 18:52:25 <Namjies>	Maybe he dumped a lot of them
Dec 22 18:54:42 <Diablo-D3>	possibly, but he never told his shareholders
Dec 22 18:54:49 <Diablo-D3>	and the market didnt support just dumping them in one go
Dec 22 18:55:18 <Diablo-D3>	glbse collapsed shortly after he made his last monthly reports iirc
Dec 22 18:55:27 <Diablo-D3>	hrm, I wonder if I bought him out
Dec 22 18:55:41 <Diablo-D3>	because I bought half of the 20k before glbse collapsed
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Dec 22 19:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9664 @ 0.00062 = 5.9917 BTC [+]
Dec 22 19:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00062 = 5.208 BTC [+]
Dec 22 19:23:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00062 = 5.456 BTC [+]
Dec 22 19:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00062 = 6.448 BTC [+]
Dec 22 19:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00062 = 7.533 BTC [+]
Dec 22 19:35:38 <thestringpuller>	usagi lol
Dec 22 19:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00062 = 9.734 BTC [+]
Dec 22 19:37:20 <thestringpuller>	smickles: where you at?
Dec 22 19:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]
Dec 22 19:41:16 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 22 19:41:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.25672, Best ask: 13.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09327, Last trade: 13.25565, 24 hour volume: 24767.51391968, 24 hour low: 13.01000, 24 hour high: 13.58996, 24 hour vwap: 13.31611
Dec 22 19:43:00 <thestringpuller>	ls
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Dec 22 20:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00062 = 2.666 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 20:21:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00062 = 2.883 BTC [+]
Dec 22 20:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00061996 = 1.9839 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00061995 = 6.0445 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00061992 = 5.3933 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.0006199 = 7.1908 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00061978 = 6.6316 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00061972 = 3.9972 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1758 @ 0.00061967 = 1.0894 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00061966 = 2.4167 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00061956 = 0.6815 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00061932 = 1.5793 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.0006193 = 2.0747 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7368 @ 0.00061923 = 4.5625 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3969 @ 0.00061904 = 2.457 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0006189 = 2.0424 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3011 @ 0.00061881 = 1.8632 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00061878 = 4.6409 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00061874 = 4.7024 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00061863 = 1.7322 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00061861 = 14.1662 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00061855 = 1.0515 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.0006184 = 7.0498 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8310 @ 0.00061839 = 5.1388 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6913 @ 0.00061836 = 4.2747 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00061834 = 4.8849 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00061834 = 4.1429 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00061824 = 7.6662 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00061822 = 6.9859 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00061783 = 4.85 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7988 @ 0.00061773 = 4.9344 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 863 @ 0.00061767 = 0.533 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:30 <Diablo-D3>	not that again
Dec 22 20:34:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00061761 = 1.7293 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.0006176 = 2.7483 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00061755 = 4.786 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.0006175 = 1.4511 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.0006175 = 14.2334 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47100 @ 0.0006174 = 29.0795 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10470 @ 0.0006173 = 6.4631 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3945 @ 0.00061701 = 2.4341 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4042 @ 0.00061695 = 2.4937 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00061671 = 6.8763 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7101 @ 0.00061664 = 4.3788 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14626 @ 0.00061654 = 9.0175 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6113 @ 0.00061647 = 3.7685 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00061642 = 3.6985 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00061637 = 9.2147 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8609 @ 0.00061635 = 5.3062 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00061625 = 4.1905 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00061607 = 5.7295 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8745 @ 0.00061603 = 5.3872 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00061597 = 7.7612 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00061596 = 5.482 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00061591 = 2.8948 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6862 @ 0.00061586 = 4.226 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00061585 = 4.8652 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00061579 = 8.6826 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00061563 = 2.247 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00061553 = 1.2618 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3013 @ 0.00061553 = 1.8546 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3133 @ 0.00061547 = 1.9283 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00061538 = 2.5846 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00061517 = 2.7067 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00061515 = 17.9009 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00061513 = 2.2145 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5628 @ 0.0006151 = 3.4618 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00061504 = 5.8736 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00061488 = 5.7799 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00061478 = 2.8895 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00061475 = 11.4036 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00061473 = 5.2559 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00061457 = 2.6119 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00061456 = 7.4976 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00061455 = 3.7488 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00061453 = 6.3297 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00061444 = 1.9355 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00061441 = 3.1949 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10011 @ 0.00061435 = 6.1503 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2043 @ 0.00061418 = 1.2548 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00061413 = 10.6244 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22485 @ 0.00061409 = 13.8078 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00061409 = 1.2896 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00061408 = 3.5617 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00061398 = 11.2972 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12502 @ 0.00061398 = 7.676 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00061389 = 8.042 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00061387 = 6.2001 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00061384 = 1.3811 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00061383 = 4.2354 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00061373 = 4.2654 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8720 @ 0.0006137 = 5.3515 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9937 @ 0.00061362 = 6.0975 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00061359 = 6.7802 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00061342 = 5.5208 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00061336 = 3.4962 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00061332 = 2.024 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7218 @ 0.00061331 = 4.4269 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00061326 = 6.5006 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9427 @ 0.00061312 = 5.7799 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11997 @ 0.00061305 = 7.3548 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8889 @ 0.00061282 = 5.4474 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25290 @ 0.00061273 = 15.4959 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00061244 = 3.9196 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7786 @ 0.00061243 = 4.7684 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26643 @ 0.00061238 = 16.3156 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00061238 = 6.5525 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00061236 = 4.1334 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00061235 = 4.562 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00061232 = 2.1431 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00061228 = 6.7963 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00061227 = 3.5206 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00061216 = 4.0709 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00061207 = 4.4681 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:36:40 <Diablo-D3>	whos the lucky winner?
Dec 22 20:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1411 @ 0.00347206 = 4.8991 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1794 @ 0.00340818 = 6.1143 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 894 @ 0.00339076 = 3.0313 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00336639 = 2.8614 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 51 @ 0.0032 = 0.1632 BTC [-]
Dec 22 20:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 820 @ 0.30712274 = 251.8406 BTC [+]
Dec 22 20:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12335 @ 0.000612 = 7.549 BTC [-]
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Dec 22 22:31:55 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (14-10)/14
Dec 22 22:31:56 <gribble>	0.285714285714
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Dec 22 22:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00062 = 4.017 BTC [+]
Dec 22 22:37:06 *	Tritonio (~Tritonio@nl4x.mullvad.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 22 22:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00062 = 5.022 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 23:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00335672 = 2.3497 BTC [+]
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Dec 22 23:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00062 = 6.851 BTC [+]
Dec 22 23:13:03 *	Garr255_ is now known as Garr255
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Dec 22 23:33:02 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 22 23:33:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.19649, Best ask: 13.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00351, Last trade: 13.20000, 24 hour volume: 25719.02486463, 24 hour low: 13.01000, 24 hour high: 13.54999, 24 hour vwap: 13.29355
Dec 22 23:33:33 <thestringpuller>	lol price is falling
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Dec 22 23:47:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.0032 = 8.32 BTC [-]
Dec 22 23:48:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00062 = 2.883 BTC [+]
Dec 22 23:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00062 = 1.674 BTC [+]
Dec 22 23:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00062 = 6.603 BTC [+]
Dec 23 00:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00062 = 17.577 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 00:34:59 <sgornick>	"Site will not be accessible (another maintenance) shortly for a period of up to 5 minutes."
Dec 23 00:35:02 <sgornick>	9 hours ago.
Dec 23 00:35:03 <sgornick>	https://twitter.com/icbit_se
Dec 23 00:44:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00062 = 7.068 BTC [+]
Dec 23 00:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062 = 6.076 BTC [+]
Dec 23 01:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00062 = 12.617 BTC [+]
Dec 23 01:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00062 = 5.146 BTC [+]
Dec 23 01:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00062 = 0.961 BTC [+]
Dec 23 01:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1741 @ 0.00322888 = 5.6215 BTC [+]
Dec 23 01:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2972 @ 0.00062 = 1.8426 BTC [+]
Dec 23 01:56:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39250 @ 0.00062 = 24.335 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 02:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6857 @ 0.00062 = 4.2513 BTC [+]
Dec 23 02:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00062 = 7.874 BTC [+]
Dec 23 02:37:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00062 = 3.999 BTC [+]
Dec 23 02:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00062 = 4.03 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 03:03:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10983 @ 0.00062 = 6.8095 BTC [+]
Dec 23 03:43:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
Dec 23 03:46:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11062 @ 0.00062 = 6.8584 BTC [+]
Dec 23 03:51:35 *	MiningBuddy- (~msn@raq2204.uk2.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 23 03:53:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00062 = 8.463 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 04:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00062 = 1.767 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 04:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062 = 4.898 BTC [+]
Dec 23 04:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00062 = 6.758 BTC [+]
Dec 23 04:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13293 @ 0.00062 = 8.2417 BTC [+]
Dec 23 04:49:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2884 @ 0.00062 = 1.7881 BTC [+]
Dec 23 04:52:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7206 @ 0.00062 = 4.4677 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 05:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1072 @ 0.00326377 = 3.4988 BTC [+]
Dec 23 05:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1028 @ 0.00329733 = 3.3897 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 05:05:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00062 = 5.022 BTC [+]
Dec 23 05:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00062 = 3.658 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 05:09:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00062 = 8.339 BTC [+]
Dec 23 05:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00062 = 5.301 BTC [+]
Dec 23 05:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00062 = 3.441 BTC [+]
Dec 23 05:28:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00062 = 2.79 BTC [+]
Dec 23 05:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4755 @ 0.00062 = 2.9481 BTC [+]
Dec 23 05:38:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5664 @ 0.00062 = 3.5117 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 06:10:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062 = 2.914 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 06:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+]
Dec 23 06:32:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062 = 1.798 BTC [+]
Dec 23 06:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00062 = 8.649 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 06:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00062 = 9.517 BTC [+]
Dec 23 06:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00062 = 1.519 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 07:11:40 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: I posted the last known usagi portfolio content to your https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=132961.0
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Dec 23 07:12:17 <EskimoBob>	this was from hes web site but it was probably not updated. Only way to find out, what he really had, was ask James for a copy.
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Dec 23 07:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00062 = 8.866 BTC [+]
Dec 23 07:51:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00062 = 6.169 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 08:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062 = 2.914 BTC [+]
Dec 23 08:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00322888 = 3.0674 BTC [-]
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Dec 23 08:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00062 = 2.976 BTC [+]
Dec 23 08:14:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00062 = 4.805 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 08:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00062 = 8.308 BTC [+]
Dec 23 08:32:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9017 @ 0.00062 = 5.5905 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 08:48:37 <pigeons>	EskimoBob: I got the mug, awesome!
Dec 23 08:49:02 <kakobrekla>	pics
Dec 23 08:49:21 <pigeons>	one min
Dec 23 08:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3395 @ 0.00062 = 2.1049 BTC [+]
Dec 23 08:59:53 <pigeons>	http://postimage.org/image/pidp510c7/
Dec 23 09:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062 = 4.371 BTC [+]
Dec 23 09:01:55 <kakobrekla>	cool
Dec 23 09:02:00 <kakobrekla>	is is drinkable from
Dec 23 09:03:29 <kakobrekla>	is it*
Dec 23 09:03:48 <pigeons>	I hope so
Dec 23 09:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00062 = 3.162 BTC [+]
Dec 23 09:15:23 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 23 09:15:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.13001, Best ask: 13.14780, Bid-ask spread: 0.01779, Last trade: 13.13001, 24 hour volume: 22196.08738081, 24 hour low: 13.01000, 24 hour high: 13.48547, 24 hour vwap: 13.24589
Dec 23 09:16:49 <thestringpuller>	someone shorted s.dice frak
Dec 23 09:16:51 <thestringpuller>	again
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Dec 23 09:16:54 <thestringpuller>	and smpoe
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Dec 23 09:19:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2870 @ 0.00062 = 1.7794 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 09:26:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00062 = 5.58 BTC [+]
Dec 23 09:26:43 <pigeons>	yeah i might pick up some dice
Dec 23 09:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9588 @ 0.00062 = 5.9446 BTC [+]
Dec 23 09:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10682 @ 0.00062 = 6.6228 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 09:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4328 @ 0.00062 = 2.6834 BTC [+]
Dec 23 09:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10655 @ 0.00062 = 6.6061 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 09:59:49 <thestringpuller>	smickles maybe making a ton
Dec 23 09:59:56 <thestringpuller>	on his loan service
Dec 23 10:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062 = 2.356 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 10:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00062 = 4.309 BTC [+]
Dec 23 10:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9699 @ 0.00062 = 6.0134 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 10:42:24 <smickles>	thestringpuller: good morning! Sorry that I missed you yesterday.
Dec 23 10:45:54 <thestringpuller>	its cool bro
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Dec 23 10:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062 = 4.092 BTC [+]
Dec 23 10:57:20 <thestringpuller>	i was driving all day
Dec 23 11:02:04 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: I am very happy that you like it :)
Dec 23 11:02:52 <EskimoBob>	it is food safe and fired an high temperature. This is called stone ware in and i think in US cone system, its "cone 9" temperature
Dec 23 11:03:07 <pigeons>	nice
Dec 23 11:03:30 <EskimoBob>	no, this is cone 10
Dec 23 11:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062 = 2.48 BTC [+]
Dec 23 11:04:05 <EskimoBob>	cone 9 :)
Dec 23 11:05:04 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: was there a paper with a picture inside the cup?
Dec 23 11:05:25 <EskimoBob>	kids stuck some stuff in there "for americans"
Dec 23 11:06:39 <pigeons>	yep
Dec 23 11:06:51 <pigeons>	she drew some pictures
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Dec 23 11:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
Dec 23 11:13:58 <pigeons>	It says "Hello America"
Dec 23 11:14:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23650 @ 0.00062 = 14.663 BTC [+]
Dec 23 11:15:45 <pigeons>	you should have them draw for BTC
Dec 23 11:15:50 <pigeons>	http://postimage.org/image/7zu3cfnq5/
Dec 23 11:31:50 <pigeons>	bout to sell out Bob <@Litie> [GLOBAL/ART] Latest: 140@1.0 - Bid: 0.961 - Ask: 1.0
Dec 23 11:34:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00062 = 7.688 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 11:44:49 <EskimoBob>	2744 shares still available
Dec 23 11:48:51 <EskimoBob>	fuck, I am so sick of all that drama in bitcointalk. We need better admins to get the order back. This wishi washi open mic BS ain't working.
Dec 23 11:50:06 <kakobrekla>	drama?
Dec 23 11:50:08 <kakobrekla>	what drama?
Dec 23 11:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6546 @ 0.00062 = 4.0585 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 11:59:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9626 @ 0.00062 = 5.9681 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is an accomplishment
Dec 23 12:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	i've boiled two different sorts of pasta together
Dec 23 12:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	they came out both al dente
Dec 23 12:03:41 <kakobrekla>	:)
Dec 23 12:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	i am now master of pasta.
Dec 23 12:04:11 <kakobrekla>	now put some prosciutto and cheese with that in the oven
Dec 23 12:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00062 = 4.03 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:06:10 <kakobrekla>	bah
Dec 23 12:06:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00062 = 3.348 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:07:28 <kakobrekla>	hum, if i install bitcoind along bitcoin gui client, will it use same wallet right?
Dec 23 12:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla o no, it was for chicken in white wine sauce
Dec 23 12:08:59 <kakobrekla>	to be honest sometimes i wish i could just eat elecricity or something
Dec 23 12:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9174 @ 0.00062 = 5.6879 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:09:04 <kakobrekla>	batteries perhaps
Dec 23 12:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	why ?!
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Dec 23 12:09:54 <kakobrekla>	i dunno, i guess i dont like eating and shitting to much
Dec 23 12:09:59 <kakobrekla>	seems so wasteful
Dec 23 12:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	...
Dec 23 12:10:13 <jurov_>	hello pastafarians
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Dec 23 12:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	and i just found out that my romanian literature teacher from hs just died
Dec 23 12:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	teh suck, dieing for xmas.
Dec 23 12:11:12 <kakobrekla>	i enjoy food sometimes, but most of the time its just to stop my belly from complaining
Dec 23 12:11:30 <kakobrekla>	would be easier to plug myself to 230v
Dec 23 12:11:40 <pigeons>	those are my 2 favorite things kakobrekla
Dec 23 12:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	i love cooking, and i love eating. i'm like an italian
Dec 23 12:11:49 <kakobrekla>	i tried that a couple of times
Dec 23 12:11:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10391 @ 0.00062 = 6.4424 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:11:52 <kakobrekla>	but i just got shocked
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Dec 23 12:12:36 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: i think you may need to do connect=127.0.0.1 in bitcoind.conf i dont remember
Dec 23 12:12:48 <pigeons>	rpconnect= i mean
Dec 23 12:12:52 <kakobrekla>	hummm
Dec 23 12:13:08 <kakobrekla>	i thought it was just about wallet.dat path
Dec 23 12:13:27 <kakobrekla>	which is same iirc
Dec 23 12:13:27 <jurov>	uh oh using bitcoind and bitcoin-qt with the same wallet? NOPE.
Dec 23 12:13:38 <kakobrekla>	not at same time
Dec 23 12:13:46 <pigeons>	rpcconnect=
Dec 23 12:13:47 <kakobrekla>	one or another
Dec 23 12:13:58 <kakobrekla>	hm
Dec 23 12:14:19 <kakobrekla>	accually if i get the latest client workin on ubuntu ... it has a console built in
Dec 23 12:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	so which is the next btc scam ?
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Dec 23 12:14:29 <pigeons>	mpex
Dec 23 12:14:30 <jurov>	you'll end up maintaining 2 copies of blockchain. bitcoin-qt is NOT a thin client afaik.
Dec 23 12:14:58 <kakobrekla>	hm
Dec 23 12:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons ill bet you a dolla.
Dec 23 12:15:06 <kakobrekla>	but armory runs on top of bitcoind iirc?
Dec 23 12:15:22 <pigeons>	armory uses bitcoind for blockchain
Dec 23 12:15:43 <kakobrekla>	just blockchain files'
Dec 23 12:15:45 <kakobrekla>	ah.
Dec 23 12:15:51 <jurov>	yes? armory uses bitcoind rpc interface?
Dec 23 12:16:00 <jurov>	ah, only files
Dec 23 12:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00062 = 2.418 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	why do they distribute bitcoind with bitcoin-qt if they can't share the blockchain files ?!
Dec 23 12:18:38 <jurov>	seems nobody bothered to implement that (or pay to be implemented).
Dec 23 12:19:07 <markedathome>	bitcoin-gui needs to talk rpc to bitcoind, which you set by the rpcport, rpcpassword in bitcoin.conf.  bitcoind needs to be started first
Dec 23 12:19:20 <jurov>	since when?
Dec 23 12:20:44 <markedathome>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92929.0
Dec 23 12:21:07 <markedathome>	oops. my google fu is weak today
Dec 23 12:21:27 <jurov>	yea, that's it. so i ended up using bitcoind CLI exclusively
Dec 23 12:21:46 <kakobrekla>	jurov newest gui has cli built in
Dec 23 12:21:54 <kakobrekla>	checkin now if i got that on ubuntu
Dec 23 12:22:13 <jurov>	well, that won't help you running bitcoind as service
Dec 23 12:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	afaik bitcoin had cli since day 1
Dec 23 12:22:22 <kakobrekla>	no no
Dec 23 12:22:25 <pigeons>	nope
Dec 23 12:22:30 <kakobrekla>	i just need access to manual commands
Dec 23 12:22:33 <kakobrekla>	so i can do sendfrom
Dec 23 12:22:48 <pigeons>	wxgui only before we even had bitcoind satoshi called it "headless bitcoin"
Dec 23 12:23:22 <pigeons>	i was thrilled when it came out
Dec 23 12:24:57 <jurov>	looks like we are mixing things. using CLI embedded in bitcoin GUI is one thing. RPC calling bitcoind running in the background is compeltely different thing.
Dec 23 12:25:29 <pigeons>	ok
Dec 23 12:25:35 <jurov>	the latter has advantage it is running all the time, it gets well connected and always ready with freshest blockchain
Dec 23 12:25:41 <jurov>	but no gui, then
Dec 23 12:25:44 <markedathome>	right, bitcoind needs to run as a daemon, with rpcuser, rpcport, rpcpassword set in the bitcoin.conf
Dec 23 12:26:09 <markedathome>	a second bitcoind runs to connect and pass cli commands.
Dec 23 12:26:37 <kakobrekla>	18:25.35 ( jurov ) the latter has advantage it is running all the time,
Dec 23 12:26:39 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Dec 23 12:26:51 <kakobrekla>	i have at least 1 instace of bitcoin gui running all the time
Dec 23 12:26:56 <markedathome>	which should just be bitcoind sendfrom <fromaccount> <tobitcoinaddress> <amount> [minconf=1] [comment]
Dec 23 12:27:09 <markedathome>	api list  --> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_Calls_list
Dec 23 12:27:24 <markedathome>	at least that was how I used to use namecoind
Dec 23 12:28:47 <jurov>	yes, running bitcoin gui all the time is an option, too.
Dec 23 12:30:52 <markedathome>	set up new one with -datadir ./somewhere-else and -conf ./newbitcoin.conf, if it is one off. otherwise you can get gui to connect to a daemon with the correct rpc settings
Dec 23 12:31:23 <jurov>	"can get gui to connect to a daemon with the correct rpc settings" But this is actually not supported!
Dec 23 12:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7193 @ 0.00062 = 4.4597 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:31:40 <pigeons>	jurov: ive done that quite a bit
Dec 23 12:31:44 <markedathome>	as in doesn't work, or devs have deprecated it?
Dec 23 12:31:57 <pigeons>	rpcconnect=127.0.0.1
Dec 23 12:32:21 <pigeons>	never knew it wasn't supported
Dec 23 12:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00062 = 2.976 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:34:57 <jurov>	nope.  my 0.7.1 bitcoin-qt just ignored rpcconnect and is starting blockchain download from the very beginning
Dec 23 12:35:07 <pigeons>	hmm ok
Dec 23 12:35:14 <pigeons>	no gui here to try
Dec 23 12:35:19 <jurov>	if it works for you i'm VERY interested
Dec 23 12:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00062 = 7.75 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:36:17 <jurov>	with the same config, bitcoind works as supposed to (calls existing process via RPC)
Dec 23 12:36:31 <jurov>	so i'm convinced it is not supported
Dec 23 12:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]
Dec 23 12:45:28 <markedathome>	can someone tell me what brackets round a channel name in kvirc channel list means?? kvirc faq/website/online help are singularly unhelpful
Dec 23 12:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00062 = 3.224 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 12:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/steampunk-tower-defense/
Dec 23 12:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome possibly that you're disconnected ?
Dec 23 12:59:21 <markedathome>	don't think so, there is no message saying disconnected or similar. google just tends to bring up lots of programmatic info as soon as the bracket is included in query.
Dec 23 13:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28428 @ 0.00062 = 17.6254 BTC [+]
Dec 23 13:09:03 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i wrote something for you
Dec 23 13:10:17 <markedathome>	is it a song?
Dec 23 13:12:10 <thestringpuller>	no a blog post intended to be read by mr. popescu
Dec 23 13:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	link me
Dec 23 13:16:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13646 @ 0.00062 = 8.4605 BTC [+]
Dec 23 13:17:41 <thestringpuller>	ill email to polimedia with your key
Dec 23 13:18:08 <pigeons>	for your eyes only
Dec 23 13:19:14 <FabianB_>	hmm
Dec 23 13:19:45 <FabianB_>	jurov: CoinBr.MPBPT-O, no more buys since a few days
Dec 23 13:20:45 <jurov>	i know, with the holidays it's normal
Dec 23 13:23:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00062 = 7.378 BTC [+]
Dec 23 13:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4805 @ 0.00062 = 2.9791 BTC [+]
Dec 23 13:24:30 <FabianB_>	i wonder whether it'll make it till end of month
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Dec 23 13:25:44 <jurov>	no big deal, we'll fill the rest ourselves.
Dec 23 13:26:42 <jurov>	but i believe december 28th mpoe announcement may stir some additional interest
Dec 23 13:27:41 <FabianB_>	just in case, i would invest 10 more, but wouldn't if unessesary
Dec 23 13:29:39 <thestringpuller>	jurov has inside information
Dec 23 13:29:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00062 = 6.851 BTC [+]
Dec 23 13:30:18 <thestringpuller>	buy now
Dec 23 13:30:31 <pigeons>	manipulator!
Dec 23 13:31:11 <jurov>	aas yoiu have seen, it may well backfire, like in case of fabianb :D
Dec 23 13:33:37 <jurov>	like, you have it all covered? oh, no need to invest, then. lol
Dec 23 13:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 520 @ 0.01498159 = 7.7904 BTC [-]
Dec 23 13:37:15 <Ukto>	https://btct.co/ <-- down for anyone else?
Dec 23 13:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 800 @ 0.16843117 = 134.7449 BTC [-]
Dec 23 13:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 700 @ 0.05981764 = 41.8723 BTC [-]
Dec 23 13:37:35 <pigeons>	quit DoSin the comptetition ukto
Dec 23 13:37:43 <Ukto>	pigeons: nah
Dec 23 13:37:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 500 @ 0.09645259 = 48.2263 BTC [-]
Dec 23 13:38:01 <Ukto>	is that the actual issue?
Dec 23 13:38:23 <pigeons>	maybe they use bitvps
Dec 23 13:38:26 <Ukto>	BF hasnt had any trades lately. was kind of curious what btct's history looked like
Dec 23 13:38:28 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 23 13:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5094 @ 0.00062 = 3.1583 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 13:50:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2203 @ 0.00062 = 1.3659 BTC [+]
Dec 23 13:55:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00062 = 1.581 BTC [+]
Dec 23 14:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00062 = 8.99 BTC [+]
Dec 23 14:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00062 = 6.2 BTC [+]
Dec 23 14:02:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13090 @ 0.00062 = 8.1158 BTC [+]
Dec 23 14:04:09 <kakobrekla>	oh yeah btct
Dec 23 14:04:16 <kakobrekla>	so many its hard to keep up
Dec 23 14:04:22 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla
Dec 23 14:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00062 = 15.903 BTC [+]
Dec 23 14:05:08 *	kakobrekla has changed the topic to: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades
Dec 23 14:05:13 *	kakobrekla removes channel operator status from kakobrekla
Dec 23 14:05:27 <kakobrekla>	added that currently non workin link
Dec 23 14:06:15 <kakobrekla>	i think that coveres all now
Dec 23 14:07:11 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 23 14:07:25 <thestringpuller>	btc x-mas
Dec 23 14:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3090 @ 0.00062 = 1.9158 BTC [+]
Dec 23 14:13:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062 = 3.286 BTC [+]
Dec 23 14:13:34 <jurov>	maybe btct is working like slovak tax office - for some time their server was shut down outside working hours
Dec 23 14:17:04 <FabianB_>	lol
Dec 23 14:18:00 <kakobrekla>	well its says "working hours" on the door doesnt it!?
Dec 23 14:18:16 <jurov>	zactly.
Dec 23 14:21:02 <FabianB_>	well, real world stock exchanges aren't better :)
Dec 23 14:23:42 <Diablo-D3>	[07:11:40] <EskimoBob> Diablo-D3: I posted the last known usagi portfolio content to your https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=132961.0
Dec 23 14:23:51 <Diablo-D3>	[07:12:17] <EskimoBob> this was from hes web site but it was probably not updated. Only way to find out, what he really had, was ask James for a copy.
Dec 23 14:25:01 <jurov>	http://i.imgur.com/hQ9ex.jpg
Dec 23 14:25:30 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: heee
Dec 23 14:25:40 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: so why doesnt he just say what the fuck the email is
Dec 23 14:27:26 <Ukto>	its the mental attitude
Dec 23 14:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00062 = 3.441 BTC [+]
Dec 23 14:32:03 <FabianB_>	Ukto: bf still not in assbot?
Dec 23 14:32:18 *	Ukto shrugs
Dec 23 14:32:23 <Ukto>	i have no control over it
Dec 23 14:32:54 <Ukto>	I was told to make twatter feed. I did. then I was told it was obsoleted. end of story.
Dec 23 14:33:30 <FabianB_>	kakobrekla: assbot doesn't like twitter streams anymore?
Dec 23 14:34:02 <Ukto>	FabianB_: the issue apaprently
Dec 23 14:34:14 <Ukto>	is that twitter will drop updates
Dec 23 14:34:18 <Ukto>	and is not accurate
Dec 23 14:34:55 <Ukto>	so I guess when I release the API for BF, he will just adhear to that
Dec 23 14:35:02 <FabianB_>	doesn't need to be 100% if it's just > irc
Dec 23 14:35:18 <Ukto>	yeah, i only made the twatter feed for itc heh
Dec 23 14:35:20 <Ukto>	irc
Dec 23 14:41:17 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: yeah, just make a stupid telnet api
Dec 23 14:41:33 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 23 14:41:47 <Diablo-D3>	you can do it with like a dozen lines of perl
Dec 23 14:42:05 <Ukto>	json far easier an faster
Dec 23 14:42:15 <Diablo-D3>	I think you missed the point
Dec 23 14:42:27 <Diablo-D3>	you can stream the json over telnet
Dec 23 14:42:51 <Diablo-D3>	hell, you could run your own irc bot
Dec 23 14:43:11 <Ukto>	thought about it, but not worth the time/effort atm
Dec 23 14:43:17 <Ukto>	i have more important things I am working on atm
Dec 23 14:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00062 = 1.891 BTC [+]
Dec 23 14:43:23 <Diablo-D3>	well, what you'd do is
Dec 23 14:43:23 <Ukto>	than getting trades to show in irc
Dec 23 14:43:28 <Diablo-D3>	use existing perl irc bot modules
Dec 23 14:43:46 <Ukto>	would rather focus on gett the api system finished to publishing
Dec 23 14:44:01 <Ukto>	lsat real major thing the system needs
Dec 23 14:44:08 <Diablo-D3>	and then call a remote api in the daemon from your trade api AFTER its closed the http request
Dec 23 14:44:11 <Diablo-D3>	to do the push
Dec 23 14:45:30 *	Ukto pushes Diablo-D3 :P
Dec 23 14:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00062 = 7.595 BTC [+]
Dec 23 14:53:30 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: usagi bitched at me in pm on the forum
Dec 23 14:53:49 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: Ive asked him to either tell the world what the email address is or give me permission to
Dec 23 14:56:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00062 = 5.394 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 15:01:55 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: is usagi having more trouble?
Dec 23 15:02:09 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: he refuses to own up which email is his in the claims list
Dec 23 15:02:30 <thestringpuller>	he owes me 21 btc
Dec 23 15:02:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00325183 = 0.6504 BTC [+]
Dec 23 15:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00326868 = 3.1052 BTC [+]
Dec 23 15:03:27 <thestringpuller>	so i am wondering how much trouvle he is in
Dec 23 15:03:31 <thestringpuller>	trouble
Dec 23 15:05:19 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: read those angry threads where he accused me of everything that happens on this planet... and in the universe too. Now, replace my name with usagis and post as DMC share related drama
Dec 23 15:05:48 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: and that does what exactly?
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Dec 23 15:06:35 <EskimoBob>	so his imaginary lawyer can drag your hairy ass to a imaginary court for plagiarising his lies :)
Dec 23 15:06:37 <EskimoBob>	lol
Dec 23 15:07:22 <EskimoBob>	x-mast drama on Channel BitcoinTalk
Dec 23 15:08:17 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: he still refuses to tell me.
Dec 23 15:08:57 <EskimoBob>	hold on, let me get this straight. He refuses to tell you who he is on the GLBSE list?
Dec 23 15:09:04 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Dec 23 15:09:07 <EskimoBob>	WHY?
Dec 23 15:09:11 <Diablo-D3>	I have no clue.
Dec 23 15:09:18 <Diablo-D3>	I intend on processing all of them anyhow
Dec 23 15:09:31 <kakobrekla>	FabianB_: theres a custom api now since twitter prooved to be unreliable even with the workarounds
Dec 23 15:09:33 <Diablo-D3>	all he has to do is confirm an address on the list
Dec 23 15:10:30 <EskimoBob>	hold on, he used e-mail something like glbseuser or something like taht
Dec 23 15:10:32 <EskimoBob>	that
Dec 23 15:10:48 <Diablo-D3>	it doesnt matter, I want him to confirm it.
Dec 23 15:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00062 = 5.115 BTC [+]
Dec 23 15:12:44 <FabianB_>	kakobrekla: so you'll use the custom APIs of exchanges and integrate it in assbot? or do exchanges use assbot's custom api?
Dec 23 15:12:47 <EskimoBob>	why everything has to be turned to a farce with this guy. Is he a mummer?
Dec 23 15:12:54 <Diablo-D3>	a what?
Dec 23 15:13:01 <EskimoBob>	mummer
Dec 23 15:13:26 <kakobrekla>	exchanges post stuff into assbot
Dec 23 15:13:39 <Diablo-D3>	Im pretty sure google is not telling me what I want to know
Dec 23 15:13:43 <EskimoBob>	A masked or costumed merrymaker
Dec 23 15:13:57 <Diablo-D3>	huh, I guess google is relevant
Dec 23 15:14:04 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: the term you're looking for is troll, I think
Dec 23 15:14:12 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Dec 23 15:15:45 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, why the fuck wont he just say what the email is
Dec 23 15:15:51 <Diablo-D3>	if he really did claim them, then whats the issue
Dec 23 15:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00062 = 3.131 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 15:22:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00062 = 7.316 BTC [+]
Dec 23 15:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1022 @ 0.00329733 = 3.3699 BTC [+]
Dec 23 15:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 578 @ 0.00332944 = 1.9244 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 15:27:37 <EskimoBob>	maybe he needs the attention?
Dec 23 15:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00062 = 3.069 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 15:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6425 @ 0.00062 = 3.9835 BTC [+]
Dec 23 15:53:36 <Namjies>	Diablo-D3, I recalled he told that long ago and when I saw the email glbseuser@hotmail.com I asked him and he confirmed.
Dec 23 15:54:19 <Namjies>	There's no way it's not him, he knew the shares for that email before it was disclosed.
Dec 23 15:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062 = 1.798 BTC [+]
Dec 23 15:55:20 <Namjies>	It also match what he had before in his spreadsheet.
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Dec 23 16:03:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18668 @ 0.00062 = 11.5742 BTC [+]
Dec 23 16:08:37 <PsychoticBoy>	someone familiar with raspberry pi
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Dec 23 16:18:07 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy: depends
Dec 23 16:18:21 <EskimoBob>	what model you have?
Dec 23 16:18:42 <PsychoticBoy>	on? It will not start up, I have a pre-programmed sd card, all is right from RS
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Dec 23 16:19:10 <PsychoticBoy>	I just received it in the mail yestreday
Dec 23 16:19:12 <EskimoBob>	i have one, I wanted to make it in to a "think client" but never got the flash etc crap working properly
Dec 23 16:19:18 <PsychoticBoy>	so probably rev 2
Dec 23 16:19:54 <EskimoBob>	can you write a new image to card? (latest)
Dec 23 16:20:02 <PsychoticBoy>	i got a black screen and nothing seems to happen
Dec 23 16:20:08 <EskimoBob>	correction: "thin client"
Dec 23 16:20:33 <PsychoticBoy>	I should be capable of doing that with the use od diskimager
Dec 23 16:20:39 <PsychoticBoy>	of
Dec 23 16:21:22 <EskimoBob>	just in case, do you have any other cards available?
Dec 23 16:21:30 <EskimoBob>	use the fast ones
Dec 23 16:21:56 <PsychoticBoy>	but i ordered a pre-programmed sd card with it, so it should work properly
Dec 23 16:22:00 <EskimoBob>	take a look at this one http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
Dec 23 16:22:10 <PsychoticBoy>	thanks
Dec 23 16:23:41 <PsychoticBoy>	probably this is the case:
Dec 23 16:23:44 <PsychoticBoy>	The Raspberry Pi cannot find a valid image on the SD card. Check card is inserted correctly. Check that you have correctly written a Raspberry Pi image to the card. Did you have admin rights when you used the SD-card writer software? Without it the software might go through the motions without actually doing anything! To check if the writing process did actually happen Insert the SD card into a Windows machine and you s
Dec 23 16:23:44 <PsychoticBoy>	hould see bootcode.bin, fixup.dat and start.elf amongst others. See also, Known SD Cards. It is also possible that the image you are writing to the card is corrupt, as downloads do occasionally end up corrupted or truncated. You can check with the checksum utility if your download is correct.
Dec 23 16:24:25 <EskimoBob>	here is one for you http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/164/how-do-i-update-software-and-firmware
Dec 23 16:24:48 <PsychoticBoy>	I checked the card and it has the named files in it
Dec 23 16:26:09 <EskimoBob>	if you get nothing on the screen, it means you can not boot
Dec 23 16:26:44 <EskimoBob>	if it can boot, you get something. Even if the kernel is fucked up and fails at some point
Dec 23 16:26:49 <PsychoticBoy>	thats the case but it should not be, the sd card is from RS and pre-programmed, sucky company
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Dec 23 16:27:31 <EskimoBob>	just in case, is the card in correctly? Any read protection thingy on or something along those lines?
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Dec 23 16:27:41 <PsychoticBoy>	tomorrow Ill buy a new sd card and flash it with the downloaded raspberry software
Dec 23 16:27:50 <EskimoBob>	good idea.
Dec 23 16:28:02 <PsychoticBoy>	If that wont work, I will sell the pi
Dec 23 16:28:24 <EskimoBob>	do not forget, you want those fast SD cards
Dec 23 16:29:02 <EskimoBob>	 Class 6 or above
Dec 23 16:29:05 <PsychoticBoy>	I have a fast one from RS, a sd hc
Dec 23 16:29:12 <PsychoticBoy>	class 6
Dec 23 16:29:17 <EskimoBob>	this is OK
Dec 23 16:29:33 <PsychoticBoy>	but probably they fk`d up flashing it
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Dec 23 16:35:05 <PsychoticBoy>	does the size of the sd card matter? I have a 4GB from RS and I can buy a 16GB sd hc class 10 for 12eur
Dec 23 16:37:44 <EskimoBob>	more is better :)
Dec 23 16:38:45 <EskimoBob>	wzz up with guns and btc? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130900.0;topicseen guns are good if everyone has them :)
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Dec 23 16:38:57 <PsychoticBoy>	and a brand like samsung or a cheap one like lexar
Dec 23 16:39:14 <EskimoBob>	cheap SD = PITA
Dec 23 16:39:20 <EskimoBob>	sooner or later :)
Dec 23 16:39:23 <PsychoticBoy>	ok a brand
Dec 23 16:39:53 <EskimoBob>	I have no idea, I buy the ones they recommend me at the photo shop ... let me check
Dec 23 16:39:53 <PsychoticBoy>	a samsung 8GB sd hc class 6 cost 16eur
Dec 23 16:40:58 <EskimoBob>	probably a good a any other. I have Silicon Power... no idea is it good or not but works fine for me
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Dec 23 16:41:31 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: just buy the highest class that works with your device
Dec 23 16:41:51 <Diablo-D3>	class == speed
Dec 23 16:42:07 <PsychoticBoy>	high class/ good brand
Dec 23 16:42:09 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: we talked about this :)
Dec 23 16:42:41 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy: unless it's made for 1%, those retards have no idea what is good :)
Dec 23 16:42:46 <EskimoBob>	they like expencive
Dec 23 16:43:12 <PsychoticBoy>	I hate expensive
Dec 23 16:43:42 <PsychoticBoy>	I am not a linux man, I bought the pi to learn linux etc
Dec 23 16:44:07 <PsychoticBoy>	I have a monste windows machine
Dec 23 16:44:11 <PsychoticBoy>	monster
Dec 23 16:45:02 <kakobrekla>	you know, you can just run a vm
Dec 23 16:45:18 <Diablo-D3>	just dont buy shi brands, dude
Dec 23 16:45:24 <Diablo-D3>	samsung is fine
Dec 23 16:46:07 <PsychoticBoy>	I will buy the best zi can and make my wallet cry
Dec 23 16:46:41 <Diablo-D3>	wow
Dec 23 16:46:54 <Diablo-D3>	I think this may be the first time Ive ever ran my own miner long enough to get 10k accepts
Dec 23 16:47:00 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder what'll happen
Dec 23 16:47:47 <PsychoticBoy>	nothing, my miner has accepted almost 4M shares and still no pot of gold
Dec 23 16:48:50 <Diablo-D3>	hahahah oh man
Dec 23 16:48:55 <Diablo-D3>	usagi isnow bitching about the 5btc
Dec 23 16:58:28 <Namjies>	I'm not a linux man either =/
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Dec 23 17:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00062 = 5.735 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 17:08:55 <PsychoticBoy>	I am now writing the new debian for raspberry to the sd card delivered by RS, EskimoBob
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Dec 23 17:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00062 = 3.41 BTC [+]
Dec 23 17:13:34 <PsychoticBoy>	whoehoe its working
Dec 23 17:13:45 *	PsychoticBoy does a happy adnce
Dec 23 17:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062 = 3.906 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 17:21:30 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy: :)
Dec 23 17:22:24 <PsychoticBoy>	I am in the OS yoepie
Dec 23 17:22:42 <PsychoticBoy>	now lets seee hmmmn what does this button do???
Dec 23 17:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11917 @ 0.00062 = 7.3885 BTC [+]
Dec 23 17:27:44 <PsychoticBoy>	Now that I loged out and back in the prompt, can I just shut him off now
Dec 23 17:32:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00062 = 5.704 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 17:54:57 <markedathome>	PsychoticBoy:  what was wrong?
Dec 23 17:56:47 <markedathome>	oh, I think I know - it is possible that the firmware files may have been for the 256MB version, though you still should have had something.
Dec 23 17:57:04 <markedathome>	my pi comes to me in less than 36hrs :-)
Dec 23 18:00:43 <PsychoticBoy>	I have flashed the sd card and now all is fine, was probably the 512mb issue
Dec 23 18:03:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00062 = 1.612 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 18:15:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9801 @ 0.00062 = 6.0766 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 18:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00062 = 5.146 BTC [+]
Dec 23 18:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00062 = 12.09 BTC [+]
Dec 23 18:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00062 = 7.192 BTC [+]
Dec 23 18:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00062 = 5.797 BTC [+]
Dec 23 18:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062 = 2.356 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 18:53:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.05816915 BTC [-]
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Dec 23 19:00:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00062 = 1.984 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 19:07:09 <Kayos>	anybody out there
Dec 23 19:10:09 <leotreasure>	https://soundcloud.com/djleo/bitcoin-the-money-of-the-future-2
Dec 23 19:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00062 = 5.363 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 19:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8436 @ 0.00062 = 5.2303 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 19:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9710 @ 0.00062 = 6.0202 BTC [+]
Dec 23 19:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 172 @ 0.00332944 = 0.5727 BTC [+]
Dec 23 19:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 428 @ 0.00333047 = 1.4254 BTC [+]
Dec 23 19:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47852 @ 0.00062 = 29.6682 BTC [+]
Dec 23 19:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11133 @ 0.00062 = 6.9025 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 19:47:15 <WhateverIFeelLik>	anyone want to buy a $100 settlement?
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Dec 23 19:49:58 <WhateverIFeelLik>	the check is due to arrive sometime in January, and I need the money before the end of December
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Dec 23 19:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00062 = 2.79 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 20:04:27 <smickles>	WhateverIFeelLik: I might buy for 1.6 btc
Dec 23 20:04:44 <smickles>	;;getrating WhateverIFeelLik
Dec 23 20:04:44 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask WhateverIFeelLik!44071d66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.7.29.102 . User WhateverIFeelLik, rated since Sun Sep  9 21:02:35 2012. Cumulative rating 2, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=WhateverIFeelLik
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Dec 23 20:07:47 <WhateverIFeelLik>	I need at least $50 from the sale
Dec 23 20:08:11 <WhateverIFeelLik>	the smallest BTCPak available is for $100
Dec 23 20:12:02 <WhateverIFeelLik>	;;ticker
Dec 23 20:12:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30221, Best ask: 13.39849, Bid-ask spread: 0.09628, Last trade: 13.30007, 24 hour volume: 14733.54087893, 24 hour low: 13.10200, 24 hour high: 13.40000, 24 hour vwap: 13.26361
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Dec 23 20:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00062 = 4.402 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 20:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.04420246 BTC [-]
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Dec 23 20:37:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00062 = 3.751 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 20:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.03020824 BTC [-]
Dec 23 20:44:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12067 @ 0.00062 = 7.4815 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 20:53:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00062 = 0.868 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 21:22:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5744 @ 0.00062 = 3.5613 BTC [+]
Dec 23 21:29:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.03005227 BTC [-]
Dec 23 21:29:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4092 @ 0.00062 = 2.537 BTC [+]
Dec 23 21:32:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00062 = 4.495 BTC [+]
Dec 23 21:46:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00062 = 4.216 BTC [+]
Dec 23 21:47:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.02997932 BTC [-]
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Dec 23 21:52:12 <smickles>	;;ticker
Dec 23 21:52:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37001, Best ask: 13.38990, Bid-ask spread: 0.01989, Last trade: 13.37001, 24 hour volume: 14793.72595714, 24 hour low: 13.10200, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.27754
Dec 23 21:52:18 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 23 21:52:20 <gribble>	13.25
Dec 23 21:57:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00062 = 8.897 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 22:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7775 @ 0.00062 = 4.8205 BTC [+]
Dec 23 22:24:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00062 = 2.976 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 22:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8826 @ 0.00062 = 5.4721 BTC [+]
Dec 23 22:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00062 = 3.503 BTC [+]
Dec 23 22:45:39 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (13.50-13)/13.50
Dec 23 22:45:40 <gribble>	0.037037037037
Dec 23 22:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]
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Dec 23 23:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00062 = 4.619 BTC [+]
Dec 24 00:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1639 @ 0.00062 = 1.0162 BTC [+]
Dec 24 00:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00062 = 4.061 BTC [+]
Dec 24 00:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8766 @ 0.00062 = 5.4349 BTC [+]
Dec 24 00:49:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00332179 = 3.3218 BTC [-]
Dec 24 00:49:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00332178 = 2.4913 BTC [-]
Dec 24 00:52:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1172 @ 0.00333047 = 3.9033 BTC [+]
Dec 24 01:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00062 = 2.418 BTC [+]
Dec 24 01:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00062 = 5.859 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 01:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062 = 4.898 BTC [+]
Dec 24 02:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00062 = 6.665 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 02:39:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9673 @ 0.00062 = 5.9973 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 02:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062 = 4.464 BTC [+]
Dec 24 02:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6599 @ 0.00062 = 4.0914 BTC [+]
Dec 24 02:55:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00062 = 1.86 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 03:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062 = 6.882 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 03:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00062 = 12.462 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 03:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00062 = 6.51 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 03:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8547 @ 0.00062 = 5.2991 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 03:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00062 = 4.309 BTC [+]
Dec 24 04:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00062 = 5.859 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 04:35:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00062 = 4.247 BTC [+]
Dec 24 04:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8875 @ 0.00062 = 5.5025 BTC [+]
Dec 24 05:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7360 @ 0.00062 = 4.5632 BTC [+]
Dec 24 05:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4697 @ 0.00062 = 2.9121 BTC [+]
Dec 24 05:58:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 905 @ 0.00062 = 0.5611 BTC [+]
Dec 24 05:59:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00062 = 2.17 BTC [+]
Dec 24 06:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8697 @ 0.00062 = 5.3921 BTC [+]
Dec 24 06:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00062 = 13.423 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 06:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00062 = 4.309 BTC [+]
Dec 24 06:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00062 = 1.767 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 07:15:34 <FabianB>	Ukto: on weex, how do i know a gpg key got added? don't want to lock myself out by switching to gpg auth without it accepting my public key
Dec 24 07:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00062 = 1.24 BTC [+]
Dec 24 08:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00062 = 13.64 BTC [+]
Dec 24 08:02:47 <sgnb>	mircea_popescu: is there a "text" (machine-friendly) version of mpex?
Dec 24 08:06:15 <pigeons>	that's funny cause some people keep asking him if there is a human-friendly version
Dec 24 08:12:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13610 @ 0.00062 = 8.4382 BTC [+]
Dec 24 08:12:28 <sgnb>	well, a more machine-friendly version would allow third-parties to build a more human-friendly version
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Dec 24 08:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	sgnb you just don't set the html parameter and it answers in plaintext
Dec 24 08:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	or do you mean the data displayed on the site ?
Dec 24 08:14:20 <sgnb>	mircea_popescu: the latter
Dec 24 08:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	a, yes.
Dec 24 08:14:45 <Ukto>	FabianB: let me check for you
Dec 24 08:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#11
Dec 24 08:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	prices and mkt depth json
Dec 24 08:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	a lot richer than the site actually.
Dec 24 08:15:25 <sgnb>	oh
Dec 24 08:15:29 <sgnb>	didn't see this one
Dec 24 08:15:41 <sgnb>	great, thanks
Dec 24 08:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	np
Dec 24 08:16:41 <sgnb>	mircea_popescu: btw, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmpex.co%2F%3Fmpsic%3DS.MPOE&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3
Dec 24 08:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Dec 24 08:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	the old page said something like "validation comes up with 1k errors which is a source of great satisfaction to us"
Dec 24 08:17:48 <pigeons>	and used to drive ne0futur crazy
Dec 24 08:23:03 <sgnb>	so a friendlier interface would actually interest people?
Dec 24 08:23:51 <pigeons>	people claim it would, but i suspect they are just whining
Dec 24 08:23:55 <kakobrekla>	still less than google
Dec 24 08:23:55 <kakobrekla>	http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=google.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3
Dec 24 08:24:18 <pigeons>	there is a friendly interface via coinbr.com
Dec 24 08:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1815 @ 0.00062 = 1.1253 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 08:30:08 <sgnb>	well, it's yet another trusted third-party to add... it should be possible to make a purely web-based client to plain mpex so that its failure doesn't let the user screwed (à la blockchain.info)
Dec 24 08:31:07 <pigeons>	it certainly is possible
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Dec 24 08:33:52 <sgnb>	so none exists yet and it would interest people?
Dec 24 08:38:03 <pigeons>	how much it would interest people is probably unknown
Dec 24 08:38:15 <FabianB>	Ukto: pm
Dec 24 08:46:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00062 = 9.982 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 08:57:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5628 @ 0.00062 = 3.4894 BTC [+]
Dec 24 09:02:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00062 = 6.634 BTC [+]
Dec 24 09:10:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00062 = 4.495 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 09:14:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062 = 2.48 BTC [+]
Dec 24 09:17:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13349 @ 0.00062 = 8.2764 BTC [+]
Dec 24 09:17:41 <FabianB>	;;rate Ukto 1 runs bitfunder and weexchange which supports gpg authentication, very nice
Dec 24 09:17:43 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Ukto has been recorded.
Dec 24 09:19:26 <kakobrekla>	very nice, how much?
Dec 24 09:22:23 <pigeons>	hey ukto maybe you can get this one https://btct.co/security/BMF
Dec 24 09:22:58 <Ukto>	usagis?
Dec 24 09:23:14 <pigeons>	:)
Dec 24 09:23:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00062 = 4.557 BTC [+]
Dec 24 09:24:02 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.msg1415181#msg1415181
Dec 24 09:24:02 <Ukto>	:)
Dec 24 09:24:58 <pigeons>	"
Dec 24 09:24:58 <pigeons>	Q: Why was I gone for a month?
Dec 24 09:25:00 <pigeons>	By the way. The night that GLBSE shutdown I happened to be drinking. So I finished the bottle and I got really sick. This apparently lowered my immune system and I got some kind of very bad stomach flu."
Dec 24 09:25:13 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 24 09:25:15 <Ukto>	that was hilarious
Dec 24 09:25:29 <kakobrekla>	lololwhat
Dec 24 09:25:31 <Ukto>	"I this makes you all happy" or w/e
Dec 24 09:25:31 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Dec 24 09:26:34 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126560.msg1343180#msg1343180
Dec 24 09:26:43 <Ukto>	.. that one >,> :P
Dec 24 09:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	ukto added gpg to bf ?
Dec 24 09:27:11 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: no, weexchange
Dec 24 09:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	o
Dec 24 09:27:41 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: but the wallet of bf is handled by weex
Dec 24 09:27:45 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Dec 24 09:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. so it can be done!1eleven. whodda thunk it.
Dec 24 09:28:53 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: WeExchange has had gpg for a year now
Dec 24 09:28:56 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 24 09:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	somehow i had no idea.
Dec 24 09:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	well good for you!
Dec 24 09:29:28 <Ukto>	prolyl cause almost no one knows of weexchange :P
Dec 24 09:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Dec 24 09:30:45 <pigeons>	hey guys, pirate is back, he was just drinking the last time we saw him and got realy sick
Dec 24 09:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	stomach flu ?
Dec 24 09:31:00 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 24 09:31:57 <kakobrekla>	some heavy shit to drink.
Dec 24 09:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	milk ?
Dec 24 09:32:09 <kakobrekla>	sour.
Dec 24 09:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	i just had a pint of buttermilk
Dec 24 09:32:59 <pigeons>	"I am interested in hiring an accountant, although smickles is probably out of
Dec 24 09:33:02 <pigeons>	the question"
Dec 24 09:33:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7063 @ 0.00062 = 4.3791 BTC [+]
Dec 24 09:34:05 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QRVbEQogDk
Dec 24 09:35:07 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133139.0
Dec 24 09:35:15 <Ukto>	guess usagi took burnsides bribe :P
Dec 24 09:37:39 <JWU42>	ugh
Dec 24 09:37:44 <JWU42>	more usagi
Dec 24 09:38:21 <Ukto>	He asked to use BF for BMF.. i debating it for a while,told him fine, as long as he actually pays ppl properly
Dec 24 09:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	we're running low on drama JWU42
Dec 24 09:38:24 <Ukto>	then eh went to btct
Dec 24 09:38:32 <Ukto>	and setup, after i set him up on BF
Dec 24 09:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	outside of usagi and eskimobob there's precious little left.
Dec 24 09:38:47 <Ukto>	which hes now being turned down @ btct.co
Dec 24 09:38:51 <Ukto>	so I am going to shut down his BF assset
Dec 24 09:38:52 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 24 09:39:49 <pigeons>	i'm actually suprised they are even voting against usagi on btct
Dec 24 09:40:06 <Ukto>	look under motions
Dec 24 09:40:11 <Ukto>	he just wants to use it to liquidate
Dec 24 09:41:59 <Ukto>	*giggle* https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.msg1418195#msg1418195
Dec 24 09:43:24 <pigeons>	anyway, a "fund" of "mining bonds" doesn't seem like the best idea right now
Dec 24 09:44:00 <pigeons>	"Why the "Bitcoin Mining Sector"? because we believe it is the most stable and largest sector in the community right now."
Dec 24 09:45:28 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 24 09:45:41 *	Ukto gives pigeons some red flags to put up
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Dec 24 09:47:50 <pigeons>	ah give the christmas gift of humor
Dec 24 09:47:55 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126560.msg1417151#msg1417151
Dec 24 09:51:20 <pigeons>	ah he put it up https://btct.co/security/SILVER
Dec 24 10:02:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062 = 1.55 BTC [+]
Dec 24 10:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062 = 3.906 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 10:16:55 <Bugpowder>	MASSIVE betting volume on S.DICE in the last few hours
Dec 24 10:16:57 *	Bugpowder is now known as Guest54266
Dec 24 10:17:08 <Guest54266>	>50,000
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Dec 24 10:24:48 <Bugpowder_>	Biggest betting volume ever for S.DICE this morning
Dec 24 10:25:43 <pigeons>	the guy who shorted it is hoping to break the bank
Dec 24 10:26:01 <Bugpowder_>	well
Dec 24 10:26:12 <Bugpowder_>	2500 BTC proft this morning so far
Dec 24 10:26:20 <Bugpowder_>	on >55,000 BTC bet
Dec 24 10:26:31 <pigeons>	nice
Dec 24 10:28:07 <Bugpowder_>	http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL
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Dec 24 10:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00062 = 2.449 BTC [+]
Dec 24 10:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00062 = 1.24 BTC [+]
Dec 24 10:49:11 <Bugpowder_>	Still going.  And now they are on a hot streak
Dec 24 10:50:00 <Bugpowder_>	58000 bet and S.DICE only up 100
Dec 24 10:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ heh. maybe it ends up +20k or some insane shit.
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Dec 24 11:01:49 <Bugpowder_>	Hope so
Dec 24 11:02:06 <Bugpowder_>	The most important thing for me is to see the volume is back
Dec 24 11:02:20 <Bugpowder_>	If this volume keeps up
Dec 24 11:02:30 <Bugpowder_>	S.DICE will be a great investment for a long time
Dec 24 11:03:24 <mircea_popescu>	5-10 years im hoping.
Dec 24 11:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	i know that's what i plan for mpoe
Dec 24 11:05:36 <Bugpowder_>	Well this month we are on pace for around 425,000 BTC bet this month
Dec 24 11:05:49 <Bugpowder_>	expect return of 8,150 / month
Dec 24 11:06:58 <Bugpowder_>	;;calc 8150/.0034/100000000*12*100
Dec 24 11:06:58 <gribble>	28.7647058824
Dec 24 11:07:08 <Bugpowder_>	28% expected return / yr
Dec 24 11:07:36 <Bugpowder_>	lets say 25% since price is at .00355
Dec 24 11:07:42 <Bugpowder_>	;;ticker S.DICE
Dec 24 11:07:42 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Dec 24 11:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00062 = 6.572 BTC [+]
Dec 24 11:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00062 = 12.524 BTC [+]
Dec 24 11:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	finally btc finance sounds like fucking finance
Dec 24 11:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	as opposed to w/e it was before.
Dec 24 11:19:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 11:22:29 <smickles>	< pigeons> "I am interested in hiring an accountant, although smickles is probably out of the question" <<< too bad, i am curious tho, where'd you see that?
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Dec 24 11:27:05 <markedathome>	ROFL - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.msg1418267#msg1418267
Dec 24 11:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7471 @ 0.00062 = 4.632 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 11:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10820 @ 0.00062 = 6.7084 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 12:17:21 <markedathome>	another exchange -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133147.msg1418238#msg1418238
Dec 24 12:18:05 <markedathome>	"The exchange is based on a different model than GLBSE or MPEx. The main concept of the new model is that PicoStocks is the legal owner of all assets. Users trading the assets can benefit from profits or buy and sell the assets to other users. PicoStocks is a legal person established under the jurisdiction of Marshall Islands. "
Dec 24 12:23:52 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.msg1418362#msg1418362
Dec 24 12:28:44 <Ukto>	whoops
Dec 24 12:39:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5401 @ 0.00062 = 3.3486 BTC [+]
Dec 24 12:39:59 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla
Dec 24 12:40:09 *	kakobrekla has changed the topic to: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades
Dec 24 12:40:15 <kakobrekla>	ill get used to this shit.
Dec 24 12:40:19 *	kakobrekla removes channel operator status from kakobrekla
Dec 24 12:46:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00062 = 5.394 BTC [+]
Dec 24 12:49:49 <markedathome>	oh, i didn't expect you to put it in the list - I was wondering if anyone had heard much about it in the background?
Dec 24 12:52:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00062 = 2.232 BTC [+]
Dec 24 13:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	so basically picostocks is the stock generation scam, yet again.
Dec 24 13:02:28 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 24 13:02:35 <thestringpuller>	what isnt a scam?
Dec 24 13:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i srsly wouldn't be listing that shit.
Dec 24 13:02:46 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 24 13:02:47 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <smickles> < pigeons> "I am interested in hiring an accountant, although smickles is probably out of the question" <<< too bad, i am curious tho, where'd you see that?
Dec 24 13:03:14 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 24 13:03:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.35083, Best ask: 13.42890, Bid-ask spread: 0.07807, Last trade: 13.35083, 24 hour volume: 16486.50787807, 24 hour low: 13.16005, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.32690
Dec 24 13:03:30 <kakobrekla>	dont worry
Dec 24 13:03:34 <kakobrekla>	noone reads the topic.
Dec 24 13:03:56 <thestringpuller>	the xmas bumb
Dec 24 13:04:10 <thestringpuller>	bump
Dec 24 13:06:13 <thestringpuller>	only 700k shares left
Dec 24 13:06:16 <thestringpuller>	nuts
Dec 24 13:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol that's a point
Dec 24 13:13:03 <thestringpuller>	i'm so sick of usagi
Dec 24 13:13:11 <thestringpuller>	fucking pay me my liquidation
Dec 24 13:18:30 <JWU42>	liquidation ?
Dec 24 13:18:36 <JWU42>	is this YARR ?
Dec 24 13:18:56 <JWU42>	I couldn't keep up with the different assets he was involved with...
Dec 24 13:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+]
Dec 24 13:23:56 <pigeons>	smickles: the reference to hiring an accountant was from the prospectus tab on https://btct.co/security/BMF
Dec 24 13:24:13 <pigeons>	it says that prospectus was recently changed, but I still see your name in it
Dec 24 13:25:01 <pigeons>	hmm Ukto so you have been threatened unless you delisted usagi I see
Dec 24 13:27:22 <Ukto>	I stated quite clearly that 'some buttons were pressed on my side'. How he wishes to interpret that is up to him.
Dec 24 13:31:28 <pigeons>	I'm waiting for someone to respond to the "What do you want me to do, kill myself?" question he posed
Dec 24 13:33:26 <thestringpuller>	I wish he would disappear.
Dec 24 13:33:51 <thestringpuller>	or at least stop being dumb with other people's money
Dec 24 13:35:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062 = 4.371 BTC [+]
Dec 24 13:46:32 <Diablo-D3>	>reads threads
Dec 24 13:46:36 <Diablo-D3>	>sees youtube link
Dec 24 13:46:39 <Diablo-D3>	>clicks
Dec 24 13:46:45 <Diablo-D3>	GLORIOUS.jpg
Dec 24 13:49:11 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZAVhy9G7So
Dec 24 13:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5438 @ 0.00062 = 3.3716 BTC [+]
Dec 24 13:54:01 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.msg1418362#msg1418362
Dec 24 13:54:58 <Diablo-D3>	*super mario bros 2 music* "This shit never ends."
Dec 24 13:55:02 <Diablo-D3>	....
Dec 24 13:55:06 <Diablo-D3>	I just had a very bad idea.
Dec 24 13:55:11 <Diablo-D3>	A very very bad idea.
Dec 24 13:55:55 <Diablo-D3>	bitcointalk thread simulators.
Dec 24 13:57:48 <pigeons>	quoth usagi, "it's not my fault..."
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Dec 24 13:58:59 <pigeons>	"and I tried to make things right and the community fucked me straight up the ass. What do you want me to do, kill myself?"
Dec 24 13:59:25 <Diablo-D3>	no, no, no.... well. kind of.
Dec 24 13:59:28 <Namjies>	who's quote is that?
Dec 24 13:59:53 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: usagi just got fucked straight up the ass by the community
Dec 24 14:00:03 <Diablo-D3>	I knew that 55 gallon drum of lube would come in handy
Dec 24 14:00:36 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133170.msg1418466#msg1418466
Dec 24 14:00:44 <Namjies>	What's up with the BTC community members always carrying 55 gallon drums of lube?
Dec 24 14:00:55 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, its cheap on amazon
Dec 24 14:01:04 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: baleeted
Dec 24 14:01:06 <Namjies>	xD
Dec 24 14:01:13 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: or thats the wrong url
Dec 24 14:01:32 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno though, I keep telling usagi to quit dressing up like a japanese schoolgirl
Dec 24 14:01:42 <pigeons>	matthewh3, "I just created this new address in my blockchain.inf/MyWallet - 12LFYVWKz5wWaofhHGnB5EXtkJwGV2yGAy - as you can see it has the word GAy at the end.  Can I get the private key for that address and sell it, is that possible.
Dec 24 14:01:59 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: oh, that post
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Dec 24 14:02:19 <Diablo-D3>	in b4 someone firstbits gay
Dec 24 14:02:25 <Diablo-D3>	HI GIGA
Dec 24 14:02:34 <gigavps>	merry holidays!
Dec 24 14:02:45 <Diablo-D3>	s/merry/happy/
Dec 24 14:02:59 *	gigavps did that intentionally....
Dec 24 14:03:06 <gigavps>	where is usagi
Dec 24 14:03:23 <Diablo-D3>	being fucked straight up the ass by the community, apparently
Dec 24 14:03:23 <gigavps>	seems he's gone off the deep end
Dec 24 14:03:26 <pigeons>	funny you should mention him, I've been talking about that feloow
Dec 24 14:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00062 = 6.324 BTC [+]
Dec 24 14:03:45 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: oh oh oh, you've seen this thread right? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.msg1418267#msg1418267
Dec 24 14:03:52 <gigavps>	he says he can't payout unless he's on an exchange
Dec 24 14:04:23 <Diablo-D3>	read last post of that page and all of page 2
Dec 24 14:04:32 <gigavps>	lol
Dec 24 14:04:39 <gigavps>	i saw his "last post"
Dec 24 14:04:48 *	Diablo-D3 plays super mario 2 music while reading the forum
Dec 24 14:04:52 <gigavps>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133168.0
Dec 24 14:05:31 <gigavps>	i thought he knew how to program? so if so, why can't he make a little payment system
Dec 24 14:05:40 <Diablo-D3>	no he doesnt
Dec 24 14:05:46 <gigavps>	ahhh
Dec 24 14:05:49 <Diablo-D3>	also, fuck him
Dec 24 14:06:06 <gigavps>	but he was in here saying that he was programming in rails or something
Dec 24 14:06:21 <gigavps>	for his "other" project
Dec 24 14:06:26 <Diablo-D3>	my mom died 2 months ago, you dont see whining like a little bitch about shit
Dec 24 14:06:30 <pigeons>	so the same illuminati that threatened nefario has come after Ukto
Dec 24 14:06:39 <gigavps>	the learn a language thing
Dec 24 14:06:47 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: he tried to learn one
Dec 24 14:06:53 <Diablo-D3>	heavy emphasis on tried
Dec 24 14:06:53 <gigavps>	Diablo-D3 very sorry to hear that
Dec 24 14:07:08 <gigavps>	heh, there is no trying, only doing
Dec 24 14:07:24 <pigeons>	"I envision the next posting I make here being a scan of the surgery papers I turned down because there's a 15% chance I will die in surgery. Fuck you all. "
Dec 24 14:07:25 <Diablo-D3>	well, I gave up the whole learning a language thing. its easier to just write my own.
Dec 24 14:07:44 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: oh, so hes getting the gender reassignment surgery?
Dec 24 14:08:00 <pigeons>	its all your fault
Dec 24 14:08:01 <gigavps>	i guess the drama never stops on the forums
Dec 24 14:08:14 <gigavps>	pigeons who did what?
Dec 24 14:08:15 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: needs more smb2 music
Dec 24 14:08:31 <pigeons>	gigavps: just usagi BS, not worth your time
Dec 24 14:09:06 <gigavps>	well, i've made an entire system to make payments, but since usagi can't program, i guess he won't be doing that
Dec 24 14:10:15 <Namjies>	Diablo-D3, but... you just did... once...
Dec 24 14:10:51 <Namjies>	Here, have a sad song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZRdPS2xlcc&list=PL2019F934A3AA4D1B
Dec 24 14:11:14 <Namjies>	Well more like plain instrumental
Dec 24 14:11:50 <gigavps>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130754.msg1418400#msg1418400
Dec 24 14:12:03 <gigavps>	i don't think it gets any more drama than that
Dec 24 14:12:27 <Namjies>	so, you have your own payment system for gigamining eh?
Dec 24 14:13:43 <gigavps>	Namjies yes
Dec 24 14:14:02 <Namjies>	Sounds nice
Dec 24 14:14:05 <gigavps>	i'm down about $25k so far for glbse closing
Dec 24 14:14:16 <gigavps>	and were not done
Dec 24 14:14:21 <gigavps>	we're
Dec 24 14:14:23 <Namjies>	I'm not surprised
Dec 24 14:14:46 <gigavps>	maybe i should send a bill to nefario and ColdHardMetal
Dec 24 14:15:33 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: I dare you
Dec 24 14:15:42 <Diablo-D3>	infact, triple dog dare you
Dec 24 14:15:56 <gigavps>	this is not the first time i've thought about it
Dec 24 14:16:19 <Namjies>	Well technically the fees were for things like a lawyer for yourself and I don't think they had to keep anyone on their exchange if they didn't want to.
Dec 24 14:16:43 <Namjies>	You'd have more chance suing for damages caused by Nefario's rash decisions.
Dec 24 14:17:14 <gigavps>	i have been choosing to focus on positive stuff rather than negative
Dec 24 14:17:42 <Namjies>	Well, wouldn't be bad that Nefario knows... send him the bill regardless.
Dec 24 14:18:30 <gigavps>	we'll see how things fall into place for 2013
Dec 24 14:19:29 <Namjies>	I hope amazingrando gives signs of life.
Dec 24 14:19:50 <gigavps>	he relisted, just not paying
Dec 24 14:20:04 <gigavps>	Bitcoin Oz posted in my thread that he relisted
Dec 24 14:20:13 <gigavps>	doesn't do much good if you aren't paying
Dec 24 14:21:10 <Namjies>	We had a private deal. Shouldn't be impacted at all.
Dec 24 14:21:25 <gigavps>	so he just hasn't responded at all?
Dec 24 14:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062 = 6.386 BTC [+]
Dec 24 14:26:07 <Namjies>	He hasn't been responding in quite some time.
Dec 24 14:26:31 <gigavps>	wow
Dec 24 14:27:17 <Namjies>	Dates back when he relisted and said he'd start paying again when he'd get his ASIC miners.
Dec 24 14:27:22 <Namjies>	Then poof.
Dec 24 14:27:40 <Namjies>	Not answering any PM
Dec 24 14:28:00 <pigeons>	look at "issuer detail" under contract & prospectus now for https://btct.co/security/SILVER
Dec 24 14:29:44 <pigeons>	poor guy
Dec 24 14:30:21 <thestringpuller>	so
Dec 24 14:30:30 <thestringpuller>	like everyone is bullying usagi?
Dec 24 14:30:30 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 24 14:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9042 @ 0.00062 = 5.606 BTC [+]
Dec 24 14:30:47 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 24 14:30:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.36461, Best ask: 13.43961, Bid-ask spread: 0.07500, Last trade: 13.36411, 24 hour volume: 15856.68691214, 24 hour low: 13.18144, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.35680
Dec 24 14:31:44 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: we're tired of his shit
Dec 24 14:33:17 <pigeons>	he's had 6 posts since his "final public post EVER"
Dec 24 14:33:31 <Namjies>	I'm getting NO votes on BTC-BOND it seems.
Dec 24 14:33:43 <pigeons>	what are the reasons
Dec 24 14:34:20 <pigeons>	there you go
Dec 24 14:34:36 <pigeons>	approved
Dec 24 14:34:42 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, I wonder if hes trying to prevent me from paying DMC shares to him
Dec 24 14:34:51 <Diablo-D3>	because its not going to work
Dec 24 14:35:01 <Namjies>	Ah well thanks
Dec 24 14:35:09 <Namjies>	I'm going to announce it then.
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Dec 24 14:36:23 <Diablo-D3>	announce what?
Dec 24 14:36:23 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: He's going to kill himself and I won't get my money!!!
Dec 24 14:36:34 <thestringpuller>	Don't bully people!
Dec 24 14:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6791 @ 0.00062 = 4.2104 BTC [+]
Dec 24 14:37:54 <Namjies>	That BTC-BOND has been approved and you can make a claim.
Dec 24 14:38:21 <Namjies>	I actually paid many small holders.
Dec 24 14:38:38 <pigeons>	usagi has apologized to eskimobob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133144.msg1418525#msg1418525
Dec 24 14:39:16 <Diablo-D3>	OH SHIT ITS THE END OF THE WORLD FOR REAL THIS TIME
Dec 24 14:39:31 <pigeons>	no that's when mpoe-pr and bob make up
Dec 24 14:39:38 <Diablo-D3>	>hundreds of holdings
Dec 24 14:39:47 <Diablo-D3>	THERE WASNT EVEN 3 DOZEN ASSETS ON GLBSE
Dec 24 14:40:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10214 @ 0.00062 = 6.3327 BTC [+]
Dec 24 14:40:27 <pigeons>	he had 200 shares of OBSI.HYPT = "hundreds of holdings" :)
Dec 24 14:41:39 <Namjies>	He has a lot more than 200 OBSI =P
Dec 24 14:42:11 <pigeons>	that was in the insured, low risk tranch
Dec 24 14:42:49 <thestringpuller>	OBSI is gone
Dec 24 14:42:50 <Namjies>	That was in the through-the-roof risk range.
Dec 24 14:43:08 <thestringpuller>	like in jail gone from what I heard
Dec 24 14:43:24 <Namjies>	Wait, really?
Dec 24 14:43:46 <markedathome>	but bob did didn't (s)he? --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131993.msg1414355#msg1414355
Dec 24 14:44:03 <Diablo-D3>	obsi quit because he got tired of the drama
Dec 24 14:44:08 <Diablo-D3>	he paid out everybody
Dec 24 14:44:15 <Diablo-D3>	its how I paid off half the dmc shares
Dec 24 14:45:07 <Diablo-D3>	"I am a worthless, petty, little fuck. Please believe me. All I want to do is pay out shareholders and I am done."
Dec 24 14:45:08 <thestringpuller>	ah
Dec 24 14:45:22 <thestringpuller>	give usagi the chance to do the same?
Dec 24 14:45:28 <thestringpuller>	he may just disapear
Dec 24 14:45:41 <Diablo-D3>	obsi wasnt a fucking faggot though
Dec 24 14:45:42 <pigeons>	markedathome: differnt bob, but good one
Dec 24 14:45:48 <PsychoticBoy>	gone with the wind
Dec 24 14:45:48 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, maybe I should give usagi an offer
Dec 24 14:45:59 <thestringpuller>	yes so I can get my money
Dec 24 14:46:01 <thestringpuller>	:P
Dec 24 14:46:04 <Diablo-D3>	no I mean like
Dec 24 14:46:18 <Diablo-D3>	sign his immortal soul over to me and do my bidding
Dec 24 14:46:24 <Diablo-D3>	and Ill take on his debts
Dec 24 14:46:31 <thestringpuller>	cool give me my money
Dec 24 14:47:09 <thestringpuller>	i'm going to create a BTC debt collection agency
Dec 24 14:47:20 <markedathome>	what you mean like btcjam?
Dec 24 14:47:20 <thestringpuller>	seems like that would be profitable
Dec 24 14:47:32 <thestringpuller>	no mafia style repo service
Dec 24 14:47:47 <thestringpuller>	give us a BTC address of someone who owes you money, we take care of the rest
Dec 24 14:47:50 <pigeons>	seems like it would be unprofitable
Dec 24 14:48:14 <pigeons>	the most productive btc debt collection i know of was shakaru, who still owes thousands
Dec 24 14:48:14 <thestringpuller>	:P
Dec 24 14:51:02 <thestringpuller>	how did he collect?
Dec 24 14:51:05 <thestringpuller>	how did he lose money?
Dec 24 14:51:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00062 = 2.17 BTC [+]
Dec 24 14:53:17 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Dec 24 14:53:18 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 43 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> lol that's a point
Dec 24 14:53:30 <pigeons>	imsaguy collected money every time he earned some and distributed it to shakaru's creditors
Dec 24 15:08:31 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, I dont get why the fuck everyone is so ... whatever
Dec 24 15:08:39 <Diablo-D3>	I was going to say greedy, but thats not the right word
Dec 24 15:08:46 <Diablo-D3>	fucking retarded is closer to what I want
Dec 24 15:08:53 <Diablo-D3>	like, Im greedy.
Dec 24 15:08:57 <Diablo-D3>	Im the most greedy man alive
Dec 24 15:09:16 <Diablo-D3>	Im so greedy, Im trying to make a company that makes a shitload of money just so I can be the CEO who makes a brazillion dollars a year
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Dec 24 15:09:34 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, why the fuck steal a few thousand dollars when you can have them throw $20m at you every year
Dec 24 15:10:06 <Namjies>	Stealing a few thousands takes a lot less skills?
Dec 24 15:10:18 <Diablo-D3>	"when you have it, flaunt it"
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Dec 24 15:14:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8078 @ 0.00062 = 5.0084 BTC [+]
Dec 24 15:25:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5252 @ 0.00062 = 3.2562 BTC [+]
Dec 24 15:28:00 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: don't you own a mining company that doesn't mine?
Dec 24 15:28:54 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: no
Dec 24 15:29:06 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: to classify DMC as only a mining company doesnt make sense
Dec 24 15:30:19 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: I dont get why everyone gets hung up on that
Dec 24 15:30:26 <Diablo-D3>	the mining hardware was going to be put in the data center
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Dec 24 15:30:48 <Diablo-D3>	no data center, no hardware
Dec 24 15:32:36 <thestringpuller>	so why be called diablo mining co
Dec 24 15:32:46 <Namjies>	Diablo "Mining" Corp. > Diablo Management Corp. or Diablo Microtechnology Corp.
Dec 24 15:32:49 <Diablo-D3>	dmc 2.0 wont be called that.
Dec 24 15:32:50 <Namjies>	Change the name =P
Dec 24 15:33:05 <Diablo-D3>	Im just going to use the name I was going to use for the web hosting front
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Dec 24 15:36:10 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: basically, it was just going to be mining, then I started fleshing the plan out
Dec 24 15:36:18 <kakobrekla>	could as well be Diablo Mythology Corp
Dec 24 15:36:30 <Diablo-D3>	the plan that we have now is the one I published, it hasnt changed
Dec 24 15:36:31 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: did you write the diablo miner?
Dec 24 15:36:36 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Dec 24 15:36:44 <thestringpuller>	I remember using that back in the day
Dec 24 15:36:54 <Diablo-D3>	what do you use now?
Dec 24 15:37:00 <thestringpuller>	I don't mine now?
Dec 24 15:37:04 <Diablo-D3>	oh
Dec 24 15:37:20 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Dec 24 15:37:21 <thestringpuller>	I don't have 100's of thousands in btc upstart capital
Dec 24 15:37:22 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 213470 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 225 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 17 hours, 18 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2977933.80142681 | Estimated Percent Change: -11.6387785945
Dec 24 15:37:52 <thestringpuller>	Buy X.IDIFF
Dec 24 15:37:55 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 24 15:38:06 <thestringpuller>	miners are packing up and going home
Dec 24 15:39:51 <thestringpuller>	Where is the plan mr.
Dec 24 15:39:53 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3:
Dec 24 15:40:06 <Diablo-D3>	first post of dmc thread =P
Dec 24 15:40:24 <thestringpuller>	i'm lazy
Dec 24 15:40:32 <thestringpuller>	;;google first post of dmc thread
Dec 24 15:40:33 <gribble>	DMC-Threads. Emma's Blog on Cross Stitching, Needlepoint ...: <http://dmc-threads.com/>; Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7K 10.1MP 24mm Wide Angle Digital ...: <http://slickdeals.net/f/5715064-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7K-10-1MP-24mm-Wide-Angle-Digital-Camera-Black-275-Free-Shipping>; Panasonic Lumix DMC-GF3XK 12.1 MP Camera G X Vario PZ 14 ...: <http://slickdeals.net/f/5730968-Panasonic- (1 more message)
Dec 24 15:40:37 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469
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Dec 24 15:40:55 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: did you miss most of the drama?
Dec 24 15:41:24 <thestringpuller>	Bitinstant beat you to the 1m mark
Dec 24 15:41:46 <Diablo-D3>	like, nefario tried to remove me as CEO of my own company
Dec 24 15:42:05 <Diablo-D3>	he locked my GLBSE account and did a shareholder vote
Dec 24 15:42:09 <Diablo-D3>	nefario was massively outvoted
Dec 24 15:42:35 <thestringpuller>	i don't care about that
Dec 24 15:42:51 <thestringpuller>	BitInstant and MPEX have already beat you to that 1m mark
Dec 24 15:43:01 <Diablo-D3>	and then usagi tried to fuck dmc over and is apparently ragequitting for a second time
Dec 24 15:43:49 <Diablo-D3>	and several (actual) mining companies collapsed the mining market when they started selling shares that wernt backed by hardware and borderline pyramid scheme paid out dividends on said fake shares
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Dec 24 15:44:01 <Diablo-D3>	in the end I won against everything, but meh
Dec 24 15:44:06 <Diablo-D3>	too much fucking drama
Dec 24 15:44:19 <thestringpuller>	then avoid the drama and deal with smart people in the illumaniti shadow world
Dec 24 15:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00062 = 6.014 BTC [+]
Dec 24 15:44:38 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: honestly, thats what Im probably going to do
Dec 24 15:44:56 <Diablo-D3>	like, at least two smaller VC groups are interested in my plan
Dec 24 15:45:13 <Diablo-D3>	but dont want bitcoin along for the ride
Dec 24 15:46:09 <thestringpuller>	i think bitcois will ultimately be able to pay for code
Dec 24 15:46:17 <thestringpuller>	large code bases*
Dec 24 15:46:24 <thestringpuller>	ugh silly snow storm messin up my internet
Dec 24 15:46:37 <Diablo-D3>	well, bitcoin paid for development of dm =P
Dec 24 15:48:32 <thestringpuller>	why aren't you out skiing then like a rich person
Dec 24 15:52:34 <Diablo-D3>	I dont care for that lifestyle
Dec 24 15:55:40 <thestringpuller>	laaaaame snowboarding is awesome
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Dec 24 15:58:35 <Diablo-D3>	not really
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Dec 24 16:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062 = 9.3 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 16:27:02 <thestringpuller>	merry christmas
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Dec 24 16:41:28 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/ - says you lost 10k
Dec 24 16:43:00 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: I already bitched at mircea_popescu over that
Dec 24 16:43:31 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: I had 20k shares out there at maximum, but basically all of them were never sold for more than even a third of a btc
Dec 24 16:44:03 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: even though the plan was to sell shares for 1BTC each, that doesnt mean I had 20k
Dec 24 16:44:10 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: plus, I bought back half the shares
Dec 24 16:44:41 <Diablo-D3>	so if I lost 10k like he said, I'd have negative assets atm
Dec 24 16:45:19 <Diablo-D3>	well, 0 or less assets
Dec 24 16:45:55 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: DMC had about 3k BTC put into it, I lost about half off that, I made about half of that, and then I paid out about half of that.
Dec 24 16:46:13 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: in the end, the average investor made about 5-10% on his money
Dec 24 16:49:16 <thestringpuller>	but didn't you dilute the early investors shares
Dec 24 16:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062 = 1.798 BTC [+]
Dec 24 16:58:50 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: yes BUT I did so with permission of early investors
Dec 24 16:58:57 <Diablo-D3>	infact, the idea came from one of them
Dec 24 16:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 made a correction. better ?
Dec 24 17:00:15 <thestringpuller>	So what is the final judgement?
Dec 24 17:00:26 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: what did you change it to?
Dec 24 17:00:27 <thestringpuller>	I'm not here to pass and judgement I just want the truth :P
Dec 24 17:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	2k
Dec 24 17:00:33 <thestringpuller>	XD
Dec 24 17:00:35 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: works for me
Dec 24 17:01:07 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: can I pm you about the article I am writing on you?
Dec 24 17:01:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: just add the part where I bought half the shares back at market value, which was higher than what people originally bought the shares for
Dec 24 17:01:21 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: happened shortly before the glbse shutdown
Dec 24 17:01:41 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: well, the end of the story so far is what I just told mircea_popescu
Dec 24 17:01:59 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: nefario shut glbse down, investors have to sit and wait until everything gets sorted out
Dec 24 17:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Dec 24 17:08:46 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno why eskimobob keeps trying to attack me on this shit
Dec 24 17:08:51 <Diablo-D3>	its not like I have any beef with him
Dec 24 17:09:24 <Diablo-D3>	hes just annoying cunt at times, but thats about it
Dec 24 17:09:40 <Diablo-D3>	hes not a major dmc investor, and he bought shares at their lowest price as well
Dec 24 17:09:44 <Diablo-D3>	he has like 50 shares
Dec 24 17:09:46 <thestringpuller>	some beef is everlasting
Dec 24 17:10:01 <Diablo-D3>	so when shit gets going again, hes probably going to make a profit
Dec 24 17:13:32 <Diablo-D3>	I mean like, both me and him agree usagi is a fucking asshole and an unstable one at that
Dec 24 17:13:40 <Diablo-D3>	so its not like we cant see eye to eye on shit
Dec 24 17:14:21 <thestringpuller>	and you're going to keep me from getting my money by causing usagi to commit suicide before i get paid
Dec 24 17:14:30 <thestringpuller>	then you and I shall have beef
Dec 24 17:14:34 <thestringpuller>	and it will be everlasting
Dec 24 17:14:37 <thestringpuller>	to da grave!
Dec 24 17:14:38 <pigeons>	burnside talked him down from the edge
Dec 24 17:15:17 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: hey man, I want usagi to be legit
Dec 24 17:15:30 <Diablo-D3>	he could be an asset to the community if he'd quit fucking around
Dec 24 17:15:31 <thestringpuller>	I'm greedy I want my money!
Dec 24 17:16:27 <pigeons>	no he's no potential asset to the community
Dec 24 17:17:06 <pigeons>	other than as a cautionary tale
Dec 24 17:17:18 <pigeons>	on not letting your kids eat lead paint
Dec 24 17:17:20 <thestringpuller>	I want him to just liquidate so I can get my money!!!
Dec 24 17:17:31 <thestringpuller>	after that he can do whatever he wants
Dec 24 17:18:29 <Diablo-D3>	heh I know
Dec 24 17:18:36 <Diablo-D3>	I'll take him on as my sex slave.
Dec 24 17:18:58 <Diablo-D3>	all he has to do is dress up in that cute schoolgirl outfit he has from time to time
Dec 24 17:20:03 <Diablo-D3>	errrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Dec 24 17:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135325705914.jpg
Dec 24 17:20:08 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you need to correct something else too
Dec 24 17:20:12 <Diablo-D3>	you said OBSI.* 3k
Dec 24 17:20:19 <Diablo-D3>	no, it was just obsi's pirate passthrough
Dec 24 17:20:33 <Diablo-D3>	obsi.1mhs and obsi.abmo paid out in full
Dec 24 17:21:14 <mircea_popescu>	which was the pirate pt ? .hyip ?
Dec 24 17:21:25 <Diablo-D3>	I cant remember
Dec 24 17:21:31 <pigeons>	obsi claimed it was not a pirate passthrough
Dec 24 17:21:40 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: it was
Dec 24 17:21:44 <Diablo-D3>	but he had his setup differently
Dec 24 17:21:50 <pigeons>	maybe it was
Dec 24 17:21:59 <pigeons>	but he claimed it was to different "sekrit" investments
Dec 24 17:22:08 <pigeons>	same MO as pirate
Dec 24 17:22:24 <Diablo-D3>	not that I remember
Dec 24 17:22:31 <Diablo-D3>	and obsi hasnt defaulted on it yet either
Dec 24 17:22:39 <Diablo-D3>	hes still holding the door open in case pirate comes clean
Dec 24 17:22:41 <pigeons>	no he hasn't defaulted on it
Dec 24 17:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	imo the small ones that paid out in full pretty much worked as a prop
Dec 24 17:22:45 <mircea_popescu>	poor man's gpumax
Dec 24 17:22:52 <pigeons>	because the contract says he invests in random crap that may never pay
Dec 24 17:23:00 <Namjies>	You might have a hard time keeping that 5-10% profit true, Diablo
Dec 24 17:23:07 <pigeons>	it was not claimed to be a pirate passthrough, you can look it up
Dec 24 17:23:12 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: well, for the 10k, its already true and set in stone
Dec 24 17:23:15 <Diablo-D3>	I bought the shares back
Dec 24 17:23:28 <Namjies>	I'm reffering to BTC-MINING
Dec 24 17:23:34 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: remember, most of them were sold to secure asicminer shares
Dec 24 17:24:32 <Namjies>	That might be a complete loss if amazingrando just disappears.
Dec 24 17:24:40 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, but you're not my largest asset
Dec 24 17:24:51 <Diablo-D3>	and if I just use my own money to buy back shares, it doesnt matter either way
Dec 24 17:25:08 <Namjies>	Might still wipe that 5% profit isn't it?
Dec 24 17:25:21 <Diablo-D3>	no
Dec 24 17:25:27 <Diablo-D3>	it depends entirely on the market, for one
Dec 24 17:25:35 <Diablo-D3>	I cant buy back shares for more than what people sell them for
Dec 24 17:26:11 <Namjies>	Hopefully he's just away. He's been busy ever since GLBSE closed down. I fear wishful thinking won't be of any help unfortunatly.
Dec 24 17:26:11 <thestringpuller>	you caaan
Dec 24 17:26:24 <Namjies>	I said "might"
Dec 24 17:26:24 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: markets dont work that way
Dec 24 17:26:40 <Namjies>	of course it can still change based on market
Dec 24 17:26:42 <thestringpuller>	THEY SHOULD
Dec 24 17:26:47 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: remember profit is not how well the company performs at this point
Dec 24 17:27:06 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: its how much money originally went in to sell the shares, and how much money went out to buy the shares back
Dec 24 17:27:12 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: as it stands, more went out then went in
Dec 24 17:27:36 <Namjies>	Ah, all is well then I guess.
Dec 24 17:28:35 <Diablo-D3>	assets will be sold last anyhow
Dec 24 17:29:18 <Diablo-D3>	even if I just sell them to myself as the last act of DMC 1.0, they get sold last.
Dec 24 17:30:15 <thestringpuller>	DMC
Dec 24 17:30:20 <thestringpuller>	doesn't seem profitable...
Dec 24 17:30:53 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: I could be renting racks out for $20-30k a month. It would not cost even a fraction of that to maintain them.
Dec 24 17:31:12 <thestringpuller>	why aren't you doing that?
Dec 24 17:31:18 <Diablo-D3>	need the capital.
Dec 24 17:31:24 <thestringpuller>	...uh huh
Dec 24 17:31:27 <Diablo-D3>	something the community failed to generate.
Dec 24 17:31:31 <thestringpuller>	<.<;;
Dec 24 17:31:36 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: when I said this was a million dollar plan, I wasnt kidding.
Dec 24 17:31:53 <Diablo-D3>	instead, they kept throwing it at shit that was an obvious scam from day one
Dec 24 17:32:57 <thestringpuller>	why don't you borrow the money
Dec 24 17:33:00 <thestringpuller>	from mircea_popescu
Dec 24 17:33:09 <Diablo-D3>	bwhahahah oh man
Dec 24 17:33:18 <Diablo-D3>	he has like no money
Dec 24 17:33:51 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: hes free to invest in 2.0 though
Dec 24 17:33:56 <Diablo-D3>	I think he'd like the way Im doing that
Dec 24 17:34:17 <Diablo-D3>	no more fucking shares, only real world straight across the board VC style funding
Dec 24 17:34:26 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (10000000 - 600000) * 0.00062 * 13
Dec 24 17:34:26 <gribble>	75764
Dec 24 17:34:52 <thestringpuller>	that's what he's made off the last block of shares for MPOE
Dec 24 17:35:01 <Diablo-D3>	I dont even know if any of that is true
Dec 24 17:35:15 <thestringpuller>	you can add the numbers from assbot...
Dec 24 17:35:28 <Diablo-D3>	yes, but are the numbers real? we dont know
Dec 24 17:35:30 <thestringpuller>	*le sigh*
Dec 24 17:36:13 <thestringpuller>	are your numbers real?
Dec 24 17:36:19 <thestringpuller>	i don't know :P
Dec 24 17:36:21 <Diablo-D3>	well, lets put it this way
Dec 24 17:36:32 <Diablo-D3>	I thought about running an exchange once
Dec 24 17:36:46 <Diablo-D3>	and doing exactly that to generate interest on the exchange
Dec 24 17:37:58 <thestringpuller>	nope
Dec 24 17:38:06 <thestringpuller>	nope nope nope
Dec 24 17:38:08 <thestringpuller>	jk
Dec 24 17:38:11 <Diablo-D3>	heh, well
Dec 24 17:38:17 <thestringpuller>	but srsly that sounds scammy
Dec 24 17:38:19 <Diablo-D3>	I decided not to because that'd be unethical
Dec 24 17:38:31 <Diablo-D3>	but it also means that other people most likely have thought the same idea
Dec 24 17:38:38 <Diablo-D3>	and have less ethics than I do
Dec 24 17:43:47 <smickles>	w00t refactoring!
Dec 24 17:45:52 <thestringpuller>	smickles: what did your daughter ask for for xmas?
Dec 24 17:46:05 <smickles>	"zaat"
Dec 24 17:46:11 <thestringpuller>	zaat?
Dec 24 17:46:18 <smickles>	she's about 1yr old
Dec 24 17:46:36 <thestringpuller>	oh haha
Dec 24 17:46:37 <smickles>	I think "zaat" is "what's that?"
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Dec 24 17:47:58 <smickles>	also we don't really participate in that any more than receiving gifts which people insist on giving us despite us saying not to
Dec 24 17:48:14 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: meh, Ive gone that route
Dec 24 17:48:33 <Diablo-D3>	christmas isnt for me anymore
Dec 24 17:49:38 <Namjies>	thestringpuller 75764 BTC? That's not possible.
Dec 24 17:49:52 <smickles>	I like to convert it all to cash and donate it to NASA
Dec 24 17:49:57 <thestringpuller>	75764 USD
Dec 24 17:50:04 <Namjies>	Ah, that makes more sense
Dec 24 17:50:15 <smickles>	"it all" being the received gifts
Dec 24 17:50:34 <Namjies>	and SatoshiDice sold 7 million x at a minimum 0.0032 BTC per share... 22400 BTC minimum or over 250k USD
Dec 24 17:50:48 <thestringpuller>	donate it to spacex
Dec 24 17:50:59 <smickles>	I say, if you want to celebrate somethin, let it be the advancement of mankind, not "the holidays"
Dec 24 17:51:02 <Namjies>	That is real numbers for sure.
Dec 24 17:51:04 <Diablo-D3>	actually, did spacex ipo yet?
Dec 24 17:51:07 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I may this year
Dec 24 17:51:08 <Diablo-D3>	I know solar city did
Dec 24 17:51:18 <smickles>	I'm not sure if they accept donations tho
Dec 24 17:51:19 <Namjies>	I'd be surprised Evoorhees would lie/not complain.
Dec 24 17:51:21 <thestringpuller>	SpaceX won't IPO until Tesla motors IPO's
Dec 24 17:51:30 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Dec 24 17:51:32 <Diablo-D3>	hasnt telsa?
Dec 24 17:51:36 <thestringpuller>	i don't think so
Dec 24 17:51:37 <Diablo-D3>	I thought it did
Dec 24 17:51:40 <Diablo-D3>	maybe Im wrong
Dec 24 17:51:44 <thestringpuller>	Tesla is still privately held
Dec 24 17:51:47 <thestringpuller>	it may not
Dec 24 17:52:05 <thestringpuller>	Musk said he wanted to wait until he had the cashflow to payback all initial investors
Dec 24 17:52:12 <thestringpuller>	before he went public with it
Dec 24 17:52:16 <thestringpuller>	i could be wrong though
Dec 24 17:52:39 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Dec 24 17:52:41 <Diablo-D3>	should be soon then
Dec 24 17:52:47 <Diablo-D3>	they just had their first positive quarter
Dec 24 17:59:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00062 = 6.138 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 18:09:30 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: why did you go with btct.co instead of bitfunder?
Dec 24 18:10:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44450 @ 0.00062 = 27.559 BTC [+]
Dec 24 18:11:12 <Namjies>	Because of past history with litecoinglobal.com?
Dec 24 18:11:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14408 @ 0.00062 = 8.933 BTC [+]
Dec 24 18:11:28 <Namjies>	Please great features to top it.
Dec 24 18:11:28 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs
Dec 24 18:11:35 <Namjies>	Plus*
Dec 24 18:11:55 <Namjies>	Well cryptostocks is... well bad...
Dec 24 18:12:07 <Namjies>	bitfunder is new but good features.
Dec 24 18:12:21 <Namjies>	btct.co has past history and great features...
Dec 24 18:12:32 <Diablo-D3>	bitfunder has limited slots to pay 10btc to glbse assets
Dec 24 18:12:45 <Diablo-D3>	so you missed out on 10 btc
Dec 24 18:12:51 <Namjies>	oh
Dec 24 18:13:04 <Namjies>	I would have chosen MPEx first but I don't qualify I believe in volume or quality =P
Dec 24 18:13:27 <Namjies>	Except maybe BTC-BOND for quality...
Dec 24 18:16:36 <pigeons>	what do you mean btct.co has past history?
Dec 24 18:17:09 <pigeons>	oh past history with litecoinglobal i see
Dec 24 18:18:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062 = 1.798 BTC [+]
Dec 24 18:18:49 <thestringpuller>	count down to emptying of the next bock
Dec 24 18:19:23 <thestringpuller>	i bet 1 person has bought up 90% of the S.MPOE
Dec 24 18:19:29 <thestringpuller>	that was just released
Dec 24 18:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00062 = 7.409 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 18:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00062 = 1.922 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 18:43:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062 = 4.092 BTC [+]
Dec 24 18:45:12 <pigeons>	thestringpuller: well Diablo-D3 wouldn't be suprised if that one person is mircea_popescu
Dec 24 18:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11364 @ 0.00062 = 7.0457 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 18:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11744 @ 0.00062 = 7.2813 BTC [+]
Dec 24 18:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00062 = 25.296 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 19:04:01 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: http://i.imgur.com/iyjWe.jpg
Dec 24 19:04:15 <thestringpuller>	well more merry x-mas from zimbabwe: http://i.imgur.com/iyjWe.jpg
Dec 24 19:04:44 <pigeons>	probably doesn't need to be protected by so much plastic ;)
Dec 24 19:04:56 <pigeons>	worth more than the note
Dec 24 19:05:08 <pigeons>	pretty cool, nice
Dec 24 19:05:21 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: well
Dec 24 19:05:25 <Diablo-D3>	if its a mint bill
Dec 24 19:05:36 <Diablo-D3>	the bill is worth more than the face value
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Dec 24 19:06:18 <pigeons>	well they ain't makin' any more of 'em
Dec 24 19:06:32 <pigeons>	however, there are plenty to go around
Dec 24 19:07:09 <JWU_42>	Ha ha
Dec 24 19:07:14 <Diablo-D3>	they're popular among collectors
Dec 24 19:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11946 @ 0.00062 = 7.4065 BTC [+]
Dec 24 19:07:18 <Diablo-D3>	just for the absolute absurdity of it
Dec 24 19:07:32 <Diablo-D3>	I wouldnt mind having one framed on my wall
Dec 24 19:07:53 <pigeons>	i love all the zeros
Dec 24 19:08:56 <thestringpuller>	haha
Dec 24 19:09:52 <thestringpuller>	one hundred TRILLION dollars
Dec 24 19:09:56 <thestringpuller>	I'm rich!
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Dec 24 19:12:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11588 @ 0.00062 = 7.1846 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 19:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00062 = 8.06 BTC [+]
Dec 24 19:44:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 24 19:44:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42998, Best ask: 13.42999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.42998, 24 hour volume: 16577.37893915, 24 hour low: 13.21800, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.38007
Dec 24 19:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20269 @ 0.00062 = 12.5668 BTC [+]
Dec 24 19:54:21 <thestringpuller>	oh man they have run usagi out of the BTC world
Dec 24 19:54:26 <thestringpuller>	what ever happened to patrick harnett?
Dec 24 19:55:08 <kakobrekla>	i reckon he still has his job.
Dec 24 19:55:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10953 @ 0.00062 = 6.7909 BTC [+]
Dec 24 20:06:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062 = 3.782 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 20:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00062 = 6.138 BTC [+]
Dec 24 20:15:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00062 = 1.581 BTC [+]
Dec 24 20:21:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00353532 = 1.0606 BTC [+]
Dec 24 20:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7259 @ 0.00062 = 4.5006 BTC [+]
Dec 24 20:25:17 <pigeons>	i think usagi is just still weak from the rum-induced stomach flu and will be back again
Dec 24 20:28:43 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: Fairy god-mother bernanke is gonna print him some money to cover his debts from what I've heard
Dec 24 20:29:54 <pigeons>	hmm
Dec 24 20:30:03 <thestringpuller>	I kid. I kid.
Dec 24 20:30:19 <thestringpuller>	But srsly, looks like I may have to write off some things.
Dec 24 20:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00062 = 1.178 BTC [+]
Dec 24 20:32:07 <thestringpuller>	364,449 shares remaining
Dec 24 20:33:13 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu's plan seems to have worked...
Dec 24 20:33:21 <thestringpuller>	but is it sustainable...
Dec 24 20:34:12 <pigeons>	no as soon as he stops faking the numbers its over
Dec 24 20:38:11 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: what is he faking
Dec 24 20:39:09 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 24 20:39:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.38126, Best ask: 13.42958, Bid-ask spread: 0.04832, Last trade: 13.38002, 24 hour volume: 15154.09689906, 24 hour low: 13.21800, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.38310
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Dec 24 20:39:49 <kakobrekla>	he is faking the current gox price duh
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Dec 24 20:41:36 <pigeons>	i was referring to Diablo-D3's thoughts from earlier today
Dec 24 20:41:54 <kakobrekla>	hum?
Dec 24 20:42:19 <thestringpuller>	Then why wouldn't he forge the bondholder statements for August?
Dec 24 20:42:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00062 = 8.866 BTC [+]
Dec 24 20:43:09 <pigeons>	he mentioned that mircea_popescu doesn't have any money, someone pointed out what was coming itjust from s.mpoe sales recently, and Diablo-D3 mentioned that we don't have verification of those numbers, and in fact Diablo-D3 had considered starting an exchange and faking activity
Dec 24 20:43:31 <kakobrekla>	ah, the usual.
Dec 24 20:44:20 <pigeons>	yep
Dec 24 20:44:30 <pigeons>	but he is faking the gox price too
Dec 24 20:44:47 <thestringpuller>	No but seriously, how is he faking the activity
Dec 24 20:44:58 <thestringpuller>	and why?
Dec 24 20:46:09 <pigeons>	i don't believe that. you know Diablo-D3, that's just how he thinks
Dec 24 20:46:57 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3 based on based on current standards is less trustworthy than mircea_popescu
Dec 24 20:47:17 <thestringpuller>	only because of the loss
Dec 24 20:48:12 <pigeons>	i'm saying he's the only person mentioning fake numbers, so when i mention it i am teasing Diablo-D3
Dec 24 20:54:24 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 24 20:54:25 <gribble>	13.33
Dec 24 20:54:27 <smickles>	;;ticker
Dec 24 20:54:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42920, Best ask: 13.42980, Bid-ask spread: 0.00060, Last trade: 13.42980, 24 hour volume: 15183.54987991, 24 hour low: 13.21800, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.38328
Dec 24 20:54:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+]
Dec 24 20:57:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00062 = 1.705 BTC [+]
Dec 24 21:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 3 @ 0.0550204 = 0.1651 BTC [-]
Dec 24 21:03:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00062 = 8.618 BTC [+]
Dec 24 21:03:04 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: I was curious of your skepticism
Dec 24 21:03:29 <thestringpuller>	as you are an MPEX judge
Dec 24 21:04:50 <pigeons>	i do not believe that mircea_popescu is faking anything
Dec 24 21:06:34 <smickles>	unsolicited, I don't believe that mircea_popescu is faking anything (60% confidence livel)
Dec 24 21:07:20 <pigeons>	i think he really is that annoying, its not fake
Dec 24 21:08:18 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: "i think he really is that annoying" << who is he?
Dec 24 21:08:47 <pigeons>	nevermind, it was a bad joke, no worries
Dec 24 21:09:24 <smickles>	pigeons: was that a lesswrong refrence?
Dec 24 21:09:46 <smickles>	like, the guy who wrote 'harry potter and the methods of rationality'?
Dec 24 21:10:05 <pigeons>	no any references are purely coincidental
Dec 24 21:10:08 <smickles>	ah
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Dec 24 21:17:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker X.IDIFF.DEC
Dec 24 21:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.DEC] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 (1 shares, 0.03 BTC)
Dec 24 21:22:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13821 @ 0.00062 = 8.569 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 21:41:26 <Bugpowder>	;;seen thestringpuller
Dec 24 21:41:26 <gribble>	thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 24 minutes and 17 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> !ticker X.IDIFF.DEC
Dec 24 21:41:51 <thestringpuller>	sup bugpowder
Dec 24 21:42:03 <Bugpowder>	Tesla IPO'd a while ago
Dec 24 21:42:08 <thestringpuller>	Really?
Dec 24 21:42:14 <thestringpuller>	;;google tesla motors ipo
Dec 24 21:42:15 <gribble>	Welcome TSLA: Tesla Motors raises $266 million in IPO - CNN Money: <http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/29/technology/tesla_ipo/index.htm>; Tesla Motors shares soar 41% in market debut - MarketWatch: <http://articles.marketwatch.com/2010-06-29/industries/30796433_1_chief-executive-elon-musk-tesla-motors-tesla-s-ipo>; Tesla Motors IPO faces new risk: CEO's divorce trial | VentureBeat: (1 more message)
Dec 24 21:42:17 <Bugpowder>	SpaceX will IPO in about 2 years
Dec 24 21:42:30 <Bugpowder>	my brother works at SpaceX
Dec 24 21:42:46 <thestringpuller>	SpaceX is a great company.
Dec 24 21:42:59 <thestringpuller>	I almost interned their last summer
Dec 24 21:43:58 <Bugpowder>	yes it is very cool
Dec 24 21:44:03 <Bugpowder>	it's his dream job
Dec 24 21:44:09 <Bugpowder>	just landed it in Nov
Dec 24 21:44:09 <thestringpuller>	Uh yea?
Dec 24 21:44:15 <thestringpuller>	Shooting rokets in the space
Dec 24 21:44:17 <thestringpuller>	fuckkk yea
Dec 24 21:45:53 <Bugpowder>	hmm S.DICE whales still going at it
Dec 24 21:46:10 <thestringpuller>	Yea
Dec 24 21:46:15 <thestringpuller>	short it like a mofo
Dec 24 21:46:17 <thestringpuller>	:)
Dec 24 21:46:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10386 @ 0.00062 = 6.4393 BTC [+]
Dec 24 21:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9368 @ 0.00062 = 5.8082 BTC [+]
Dec 24 21:48:33 <Bugpowder>	77,000 BTC bet, 2500BTC S.DICE profit
Dec 24 21:49:46 <thestringpuller>	Its like a lottery...
Dec 24 21:49:58 <Bugpowder>	Every employee at spaceX still has to be personally approved by musk
Dec 24 21:50:11 <Bugpowder>	for the final round of interviews
Dec 24 21:50:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00062 = 3.689 BTC [+]
Dec 24 21:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4471 @ 0.00062 = 2.772 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 21:53:11 <thestringpuller>	I heard from my friend Musk is weird as shit.
Dec 24 21:54:34 <thestringpuller>	S.DICE the bitcoin casino
Dec 24 22:02:55 <thestringpuller>	;;seen Ukto
Dec 24 22:02:56 <gribble>	Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 35 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <Ukto> I stated quite clearly that 'some buttons were pressed on my side'. How he wishes to interpret that is up to him.
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Dec 24 22:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10082 @ 0.00062 = 6.2508 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 22:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062 = 9.3 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 22:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1930 @ 0.00062 = 1.1966 BTC [+]
Dec 24 23:03:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1015 @ 0.00062 = 0.6293 BTC [+]
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Dec 24 23:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6414 @ 0.00062 = 3.9767 BTC [+]
Dec 24 23:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00062 = 2.79 BTC [+]
Dec 24 23:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31120 @ 0.00062 = 19.2944 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 00:10:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00062 = 0.496 BTC [+]
Dec 25 00:14:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00062 = 2.201 BTC [+]
Dec 25 00:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00062 = 4.402 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 00:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00062 = 7.347 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 01:17:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12026 @ 0.00062 = 7.4561 BTC [+]
Dec 25 01:23:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00062 = 6.696 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 01:35:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00062 = 1.488 BTC [+]
Dec 25 01:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00353532 = 1.5909 BTC [+]
Dec 25 01:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5940 @ 0.00062 = 3.6828 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 01:41:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10990 @ 0.00062 = 6.8138 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 01:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00062 = 7.967 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 02:01:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00062 = 7.006 BTC [+]
Dec 25 02:02:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8182 @ 0.00062 = 5.0728 BTC [+]
Dec 25 02:18:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00062 = 6.944 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 02:34:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11672 @ 0.00062 = 7.2366 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 03:11:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00062 = 9.424 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 03:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7677 @ 0.00062 = 4.7597 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 03:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00349294 = 0.8732 BTC [-]
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Dec 25 03:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00062 = 4.123 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 03:28:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00062 = 1.457 BTC [+]
Dec 25 03:38:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00062 = 1.488 BTC [+]
Dec 25 03:43:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00062 = 5.704 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 03:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00062 = 2.573 BTC [+]
Dec 25 03:59:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062 = 4.34 BTC [+]
Dec 25 03:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062 = 3.286 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 04:10:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00062 = 6.448 BTC [+]
Dec 25 04:27:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3157 @ 0.00062 = 1.9573 BTC [+]
Dec 25 04:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19099 @ 0.00062 = 11.8414 BTC [+]
Dec 25 05:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 499 @ 0.00062 = 0.3094 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 05:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1168 @ 0.00062739 = 0.7328 BTC [+]
Dec 25 05:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 682 @ 0.00064 = 0.4365 BTC [+]
Dec 25 05:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00064 = 7.84 BTC [+]
Dec 25 06:03:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00064 = 3.008 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 06:15:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00064 = 1.152 BTC [+]
Dec 25 06:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14538 @ 0.00064 = 9.3043 BTC [+]
Dec 25 07:09:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00064 = 7.392 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 07:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00354404 = 2.8352 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 07:15:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064 = 7.04 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 07:22:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
Dec 25 07:28:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00064 = 3.328 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 08:11:31 <EskimoBob>	Hola! Any good news?
Dec 25 08:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00064 = 6.464 BTC [+]
Dec 25 08:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00064 = 4.704 BTC [+]
Dec 25 08:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00064 = 2.912 BTC [+]
Dec 25 08:49:55 <markedathome>	It is Christmas Day. Good news, I don't have to work. Bad news, I don't get paid
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Dec 25 08:51:30 <EskimoBob>	sure you do, if it's a "official holiday"
Dec 25 08:51:47 <markedathome>	not if i'm self-employed...
Dec 25 08:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 08:55:55 <EskimoBob>	markedathome: sure, but who told you you can not work today?
Dec 25 08:56:11 <markedathome>	that would be me :-)
Dec 25 08:56:20 <EskimoBob>	exactly
Dec 25 08:57:22 <EskimoBob>	maybe you "two" need to talk about it?
Dec 25 09:00:28 <markedathome>	dunno, I might then be committed for hearing voices?
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Dec 25 09:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00064 = 1.792 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 09:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4104 @ 0.00064 = 2.6266 BTC [+]
Dec 25 09:30:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18634 @ 0.00064 = 11.9258 BTC [+]
Dec 25 09:32:54 <EskimoBob>	lol, sure, if you do it front of the public WC mirror
Dec 25 09:37:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1665 @ 0.00064 = 1.0656 BTC [+]
Dec 25 09:38:05 <Bugpowder>	SATOSHIIIII DICEEE
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Dec 25 09:43:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00064 = 5.216 BTC [+]
Dec 25 09:43:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2213 @ 0.00064 = 1.4163 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 09:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6407 @ 0.00064 = 4.1005 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 10:14:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00064 = 1.728 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 10:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00064 = 0.384 BTC [+]
Dec 25 10:30:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00354059 = 17.703 BTC [-]
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Dec 25 10:59:33 <pigeons>	nethead, Roger Ver's nemesis, has this forum sig: Disclaimer: Do not sent any coins by mistake, i will keep them.
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Dec 25 11:27:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064 = 7.04 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 11:34:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17107 @ 0.00064 = 10.9485 BTC [+]
Dec 25 11:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00064 = 3.456 BTC [+]
Dec 25 11:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7155 @ 0.00064 = 4.5792 BTC [+]
Dec 25 11:51:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7636 @ 0.00064 = 4.887 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 12:16:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15452 @ 0.00064 = 9.8893 BTC [+]
Dec 25 12:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00064 = 6.08 BTC [+]
Dec 25 12:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00064 = 11.168 BTC [+]
Dec 25 12:54:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.09871751 = 98.7175 BTC [+]
Dec 25 12:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.04991307 = 49.9131 BTC [-]
Dec 25 12:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1000 @ 0.02201012 = 22.0101 BTC [-]
Dec 25 12:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.17407439 = 174.0744 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 13:16:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1545 @ 0.00064 = 0.9888 BTC [+]
Dec 25 13:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00064 = 3.424 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 13:31:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 25 13:31:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30931, Best ask: 13.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04069, Last trade: 13.30931, 24 hour volume: 15246.85529519, 24 hour low: 13.14000, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.34425
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Dec 25 13:36:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00064 = 22.592 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 13:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 820 @ 0.24943126 = 204.5336 BTC [-]
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Dec 25 13:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5251 @ 0.00064 = 3.3606 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 13:57:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00064 = 25.6 BTC [+]
Dec 25 13:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14522 @ 0.00064 = 9.2941 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 14:07:16 <markedathome>	pigeons: nethead is bulanula... :-)
Dec 25 14:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00064 = 1.28 BTC [+]
Dec 25 14:09:16 <smickles>	;;bc,stats
Dec 25 14:09:27 <smickles>	;;bc,stats
Dec 25 14:09:29 <smickles>	;;bc,stat
Dec 25 14:09:33 <EskimoBob>	huh... that trip was fun. Road was so slippery that stepping on gas pedal a bit harder, while doing 70, made wheels spin :)
Dec 25 14:09:33 <smickles>	???
Dec 25 14:09:37 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
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Dec 25 14:10:03 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Dec 25 14:10:04 <gribble>	Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
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Dec 25 14:10:34 <thestringpuller>	smickles
Dec 25 14:10:45 <thestringpuller>	merry christmas
Dec 25 14:11:13 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I hope you enjoy your holiday :)
Dec 25 14:11:31 <thestringpuller>	if we win the war on fiat i will :)
Dec 25 14:11:38 <smickles>	so, big diff drop coming soon
Dec 25 14:11:45 <thestringpuller>	but as my mom says: one day at a timr
Dec 25 14:12:09 <thestringpuller>	miners went offline like you predicted
Dec 25 14:12:11 <smickles>	heh, yeah, not likely to 'win the war' today
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Dec 25 14:12:21 <thestringpuller>	im sure the asic bubble didnt hp
Dec 25 14:12:25 <thestringpuller>	help
Dec 25 14:12:31 <smickles>	it's shapped up to be the largest drop in history
Dec 25 14:14:15 <thestringpuller>	whoever wrote the X.IDIFF.DEC is probably pissed
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Dec 25 14:16:29 <markedathome>	thestringpuller: but no volume?
Dec 25 14:17:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker X.IDIFF.DEC
Dec 25 14:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.DEC] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 (1 shares, 0.03 BTC)
Dec 25 14:17:22 <thestringpuller>	one contract
Dec 25 14:17:24 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 25 14:18:05 <markedathome>	there are more for mar and jun, 20, 170 respectively
Dec 25 14:18:29 <thestringpuller>	i know but diff is super volatile
Dec 25 14:20:04 <PsychoticBoy>	are there European People that send Personal information to lets say gigavps?
Dec 25 14:20:11 <PsychoticBoy>	plz read this
Dec 25 14:20:35 <PsychoticBoy>	BEWARE: according to European law, We (European citizens) may not transfer our ID (our a copy of it) to a third party (Outside the EU, like gigavps lawyer)!!
Dec 25 14:20:35 <PsychoticBoy>	Here is a list of countries which by law are not allowed to send their ID to third parties (Countries outside the EU)
Dec 25 14:20:35 <PsychoticBoy>	Member states of the EU:
Dec 25 14:20:35 <PsychoticBoy>	(year of entry)
Dec 25 14:20:35 <PsychoticBoy>	Austria (1995)
Dec 25 14:20:37 <PsychoticBoy>	Belgium (1952)
Dec 25 14:20:39 <PsychoticBoy>	Bulgaria (2007)
Dec 25 14:20:41 <PsychoticBoy>	Cyprus (2004)
Dec 25 14:20:43 <PsychoticBoy>	Czech Republic (2004)
Dec 25 14:20:45 <PsychoticBoy>	Denmark (1973)
Dec 25 14:20:47 <PsychoticBoy>	Estonia (2004)
Dec 25 14:20:49 <PsychoticBoy>	Finland (1995)
Dec 25 14:20:51 <PsychoticBoy>	France (1952)
Dec 25 14:20:53 <PsychoticBoy>	Germany (1952)
Dec 25 14:20:55 <PsychoticBoy>	Greece (1981)
Dec 25 14:20:59 <PsychoticBoy>	Hungary (2004)
Dec 25 14:21:01 <PsychoticBoy>	Ireland (1973)
Dec 25 14:21:03 <PsychoticBoy>	Italy (1952)
Dec 25 14:21:05 <PsychoticBoy>	Latvia (2004)
Dec 25 14:21:07 <PsychoticBoy>	Lithuania (2004)
Dec 25 14:21:09 <PsychoticBoy>	Luxembourg (1952)
Dec 25 14:21:11 <PsychoticBoy>	Malta (2004)
Dec 25 14:21:13 <PsychoticBoy>	Netherlands (1952)
Dec 25 14:21:15 <PsychoticBoy>	Poland (2004)
Dec 25 14:21:17 <PsychoticBoy>	Portugal (1986)
Dec 25 14:21:19 <PsychoticBoy>	Romania (2007)
Dec 25 14:21:21 <PsychoticBoy>	Slovakia (2004)
Dec 25 14:21:23 <PsychoticBoy>	Slovenia (2004)
Dec 25 14:21:27 <PsychoticBoy>	Spain (1986)
Dec 25 14:21:29 <PsychoticBoy>	Sweden (1995)
Dec 25 14:21:31 <PsychoticBoy>	United Kingdom (1973)
Dec 25 14:21:33 <PsychoticBoy>	so DONT send your personal info, It can be used for Identity theft
Dec 25 14:21:35 <PsychoticBoy>	retc
Dec 25 14:21:37 <PsychoticBoy>	etc
Dec 25 14:22:07 <PsychoticBoy>	Asking for your ID etc is a CRIMINAL action according to the EU law
Dec 25 14:22:20 <kakobrekla>	hm
Dec 25 14:22:29 <kakobrekla>	how about gox verification
Dec 25 14:22:50 <PsychoticBoy>	true this info comes fr4om the Dutch Law institute, I called them
Dec 25 14:23:30 <PsychoticBoy>	should be the same, dont send info to gox either unless they are EU company
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Dec 25 14:26:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1902 @ 0.00064 = 1.2173 BTC [+]
Dec 25 14:29:15 <PsychoticBoy>	So in short, you are all (if EU citizen) in the right to not send him (gigavps or his so called lawyer) anything. You can evemn  sue him because of this action
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Dec 25 14:31:03 <PsychoticBoy>	To get him sued, ed start a lawsuit against him this will cost 700euro initial (we wont get it back if we lose the case)
Dec 25 14:31:34 <PsychoticBoy>	but I am prepared to pay this out of my own pocket
Dec 25 14:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00064 = 8.832 BTC [+]
Dec 25 14:36:59 <PsychoticBoy>	So if anyone is intrested in buying 117 Gigamining shares, let me know
Dec 25 14:37:13 <PsychoticBoy>	I want to get rid of that crap
Dec 25 14:38:25 <PsychoticBoy>	otherwise sue the crap spreader
Dec 25 14:38:36 <jurov>	psychoticboy, did they said exact name of the law?
Dec 25 14:40:21 <jurov>	and why would eu-based companies be exempt?
Dec 25 14:40:49 <PsychoticBoy>	hmmmn they probably did, but I was too upset/angry/mad or how you will call it, I have to call them back and let them send it too me by mail. for proof
Dec 25 14:40:55 <PsychoticBoy>	EU law
Dec 25 14:41:14 <jurov>	rly helpful
Dec 25 14:41:15 <markedathome>	presumably it is the european union data protection regulation? https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:lUJQqe8liYYJ:ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/document/review2012/com_2012_11_en.pdf+&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg6Fc7Joam_K8q_zFqQnprfwiloP_7Y78An3PYhz5keRiLYReE0jHCxyphxiDVgsJXxOhg5F6zXrrA90o0iYOzCj9-NFWaieaF-99ObOeSjStK85XMur8tYt8FgajpC6tFCpmEr&sig=AHIEtbQOj-0uVTGmkbd5sL2lSFx523Sho
Dec 25 14:41:27 <PsychoticBoy>	EU LAW IS ABOVE US LAW FOR EU CITIZEN!!
Dec 25 14:41:48 <markedathome>	unless there is a reciprocal arrangement
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Dec 25 14:42:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00064 = 5.76 BTC [+]
Dec 25 14:42:46 <jurov>	sorry we're unable to find teh document
Dec 25 14:42:58 <jurov>	^markedathome
Dec 25 14:43:25 <PsychoticBoy>	I explained the whole story to the lawyer/judge I talked with and they told me this: Dont send your ID to a non EU country registred company
Dec 25 14:44:01 <PsychoticBoy>	I said it was a person, then they said dont send data EVER!
Dec 25 14:44:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6220 @ 0.00064 = 3.9808 BTC [+]
Dec 25 14:44:32 <PsychoticBoy>	cause the chance for identity theft is big+ it is a illigal action
Dec 25 14:45:00 <PsychoticBoy>	but I am going to my christmas dinner, see you guys later
Dec 25 14:45:05 <markedathome>	jurov: sorry, googled "european union distribution outside of personal documents" and 4th down. used the quick view link -  didn't realise it was user specific
Dec 25 14:47:00 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy: i posted about the same stuff in gigavps thread few weeks ago
Dec 25 14:49:59 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy: Data Protection Directive is one and there are multiple others
Dec 25 14:50:33 <EskimoBob>	I told Gox guy to send me his documents first :) I am still waiting :)
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Dec 25 14:54:18 <EskimoBob>	PsychoticBoy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75802.msg1372997#msg1372997
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Dec 25 14:59:58 <jurov>	indeed it's dangerous to give anyone your ID number and illegal for third parties to process it
Dec 25 15:00:33 <jurov>	and usually ID card have it
Dec 25 15:00:47 <jurov>	so mybe that's it
Dec 25 15:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25482 @ 0.00064 = 16.3085 BTC [+]
Dec 25 15:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00064 = 6.336 BTC [+]
Dec 25 15:04:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 15:08:48 <Bugpowder>	PsychoticBoy : how much will you sell gigamining shares for?
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Dec 25 15:09:32 <Bugpowder>	I have yet to send in my AML data but will soon.  Would be willing to pick some shares up at a reasonable price.
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Dec 25 15:14:50 <pigeons>	rate stealth222 2 trust his code
Dec 25 15:14:55 <pigeons>	;;rate stealth222 2 trust his code
Dec 25 15:14:56 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user stealth222 has been recorded.
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Dec 25 15:18:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00064 = 0.896 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 15:31:35 <Bugpowder>	SATOSHIIIII
Dec 25 15:31:37 <Bugpowder>	DICE
Dec 25 15:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00064 = 5.856 BTC [+]
Dec 25 15:35:46 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE revenue up to 33,000
Dec 25 15:36:01 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 33000-16200
Dec 25 15:36:02 <gribble>	16800
Dec 25 15:36:28 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 16800/.0034/100000000
Dec 25 15:36:28 <gribble>	0.0494117647059
Dec 25 15:36:38 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 16800/.0035/100000000
Dec 25 15:36:38 <gribble>	0.048
Dec 25 15:37:31 <Bugpowder>	4.8% dividend this month
Dec 25 15:40:31 <jurov>	lol that change several times yet
Dec 25 15:40:42 <jurov>	with all these whales
Dec 25 15:41:32 <jurov>	*that can
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Dec 25 16:11:25 <Diablo-D3>	man
Dec 25 16:11:34 <Diablo-D3>	Im almost envious of inaba
Dec 25 16:11:40 <Diablo-D3>	he gets paid to troll
Dec 25 16:13:32 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: so does the shit slinging mpfk-pr
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Dec 25 16:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00064 = 2.496 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 17:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00064 = 1.152 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 17:02:59 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: is a shit slinger
Dec 25 17:03:16 <thestringpuller>	who slings poopoo like a chimpanzee
Dec 25 17:03:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00064 = 5.152 BTC [+]
Dec 25 17:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00064 = 8.064 BTC [+]
Dec 25 17:11:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00064 = 6.976 BTC [+]
Dec 25 17:14:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2707 @ 0.00064 = 1.7325 BTC [+]
Dec 25 17:21:43 <PsychoticBoy>	mpfk-pr << a word that you do not often hear
Dec 25 17:21:48 <PsychoticBoy>	;)
Dec 25 17:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00064 = 1.824 BTC [+]
Dec 25 17:22:14 <PsychoticBoy>	<Bugpowder> PsychoticBoy : how much will you sell gigamining shares for? 0.2 btc
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Dec 25 17:26:26 <JWU42>	PsychoticBoy: thought you couldn't sell them
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Dec 25 17:28:04 <gigavps>	good evening
Dec 25 17:28:15 <JWU42>	wow - good timing giga
Dec 25 17:28:35 <gigavps>	stuffed from Christmas dinner
Dec 25 17:28:41 <gigavps>	can barely move
Dec 25 17:28:41 <JWU42>	nice
Dec 25 17:28:58 <JWU42>	laying on couch with laptop propped on distended belly ;)
Dec 25 17:29:41 <gigavps>	too many cookies, my mother makes some pretty awesome cookies
Dec 25 17:31:06 <JWU42>	yumm
Dec 25 17:31:31 <JWU42>	hmm PsychoticBoy was around a bit ago talking about GIGAMINING
Dec 25 17:31:36 <JWU42>	not sure where he went
Dec 25 17:32:16 <gigavps>	well, selling gigamining since the close of glbse will most likely void any claim
Dec 25 17:32:29 <gigavps>	so buyer beware
Dec 25 17:32:36 <JWU42>	OK - that clarifies
Dec 25 17:32:41 <JWU42>	thks for that
Dec 25 17:33:00 <gigavps>	one of the huge reasons GLBSE closed was because they had no idea who their customers were
Dec 25 17:33:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00064 = 6.72 BTC [+]
Dec 25 17:33:17 <gigavps>	and they were supposed to be reporting gains/loses
Dec 25 17:33:27 <gigavps>	simple kyc stuff
Dec 25 17:33:41 <gigavps>	all of the new exchange will have the same problems
Dec 25 17:35:27 <gigavps>	i've read the TOS for some of the sites, and treating the exchange as a "experiment/learning" will not keep them out of court when the government comes calling
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Dec 25 17:49:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2010 @ 0.00064 = 1.2864 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 18:02:15 <PsychoticBoy>	hmmn he left
Dec 25 18:03:16 <PsychoticBoy>	I think I will get giga into court, I contacted O Hammerstein, my lawyer, and he wants action
Dec 25 18:04:24 <PsychoticBoy>	yes it is one of the best lawyers in The Netherlands (and expensive) but he is like a pitbull
Dec 25 18:04:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 774 @ 0.00354059 = 2.7404 BTC [-]
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Dec 25 18:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8728 @ 0.00064 = 5.5859 BTC [+]
Dec 25 18:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00345868 = 1.7293 BTC [-]
Dec 25 18:19:49 <thestringpuller>	PsychoticBoy: why are you going to get giga into court
Dec 25 18:19:52 <thestringpuller>	*
Dec 25 18:20:49 <PsychoticBoy>	I am sick of people who make their own rules, Bitcoin is a semi annonymous coin traded in a free market
Dec 25 18:21:08 <PsychoticBoy>	He did not need my ID or such when I took my coins
Dec 25 18:21:33 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: man I wish dmc could afford a lawyer
Dec 25 18:21:34 <PsychoticBoy>	Now when things are getting ugly, he goes by the law etc F
Dec 25 18:21:57 <PsychoticBoy>	I will outsource all I got If I have to
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Dec 25 18:22:45 <thestringpuller>	PsychoticBoy: I think I missed something. What did gigia exactly do?
Dec 25 18:22:51 <PsychoticBoy>	allthough I only own 117 Giga shares, does not mean I have to let ppl walk over me
Dec 25 18:23:35 <PsychoticBoy>	For real persons: a photocopy or scanned PDF of government issued photo identification, or, for corporations the document number and issuing jurisdiction of the incorporating charter and proof of current good standing.
Dec 25 18:23:35 <PsychoticBoy>	An affidavit attesting to the beneficial assignment of the agreement, which has been notarized (US residents/corporations) or local equivalent bearing the apostille of the competent jurisdiction.  Copies of an acceptable affidavit can be obtained upon request from the law offices.
Dec 25 18:23:43 <PsychoticBoy>	^^^^ this is the problem
Dec 25 18:23:50 <thestringpuller>	Wait what
Dec 25 18:23:53 <thestringpuller>	I'm so confused
Dec 25 18:23:56 <PsychoticBoy>	My ID etc
Dec 25 18:24:09 <PsychoticBoy>	F him he wont get it and its against EU Law
Dec 25 18:24:45 <PsychoticBoy>	he is no EU company If he does own a company that is registred
Dec 25 18:25:07 <PsychoticBoy>	If he even has one
Dec 25 18:25:56 <PsychoticBoy>	I dont mind payoing 1000euro for a lawyer to get him hanged
Dec 25 18:26:01 <thestringpuller>	so he wants
Dec 25 18:26:30 <PsychoticBoy>	even if the 117 sahres arent worth shit
Dec 25 18:26:34 <thestringpuller>	"papers"
Dec 25 18:26:38 <thestringpuller>	in order to claim the shares
Dec 25 18:26:39 <PsychoticBoy>	yep
Dec 25 18:26:58 <PsychoticBoy>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127488.0
Dec 25 18:27:25 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Dec 25 18:27:29 <Diablo-D3>	why are we tagging giga as a scammer?
Dec 25 18:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15157 @ 0.00064 = 9.7005 BTC [+]
Dec 25 18:27:45 <PsychoticBoy>	he is not getting taged
Dec 25 18:27:53 <PsychoticBoy>	he will not get one
Dec 25 18:28:05 <Diablo-D3>	good
Dec 25 18:28:10 <Diablo-D3>	has giga even done anything wrong yet?
Dec 25 18:28:15 <PsychoticBoy>	its only not a reasonable thing to do, ask for ppl personal data
Dec 25 18:28:42 <thestringpuller>	well people will stop giving him money?
Dec 25 18:28:51 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: erm, they cant
Dec 25 18:28:51 <PsychoticBoy>	sure
Dec 25 18:28:54 <Diablo-D3>	he hasnt relisted anywhere
Dec 25 18:29:05 <thestringpuller>	people have the right to liquidate no?
Dec 25 18:29:18 <PsychoticBoy>	He wont get another btc from me as he already took more than 70 BTC (117 shares)
Dec 25 18:29:33 <Diablo-D3>	what, hes not buying the shares back?
Dec 25 18:29:57 <PsychoticBoy>	no You can claim be sending your ID, address etc and an affidavit
Dec 25 18:30:14 <PsychoticBoy>	by*
Dec 25 18:30:37 <PsychoticBoy>	so this is fucking bullshit
Dec 25 18:30:49 <PsychoticBoy>	sorry for my language on christmas
Dec 25 18:30:54 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Dec 25 18:30:59 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if his lawyer told him to do that
Dec 25 18:31:04 <PsychoticBoy>	yep
Dec 25 18:31:12 <Diablo-D3>	then I wouldnt scammer tag him
Dec 25 18:31:20 <Diablo-D3>	his lawyer knows more about this shit than any of us do
Dec 25 18:31:39 <Diablo-D3>	just another reason to excommunicate nefario, imo
Dec 25 18:31:43 <PsychoticBoy>	I have the feeling he just want his ass covered by a lawyer and not pay out shareholders
Dec 25 18:31:51 <Diablo-D3>	I dont
Dec 25 18:31:57 <Diablo-D3>	he may have actually violated the law somewhere
Dec 25 18:32:47 <markedathome>	thestringpuller: they have the right to request liquidation through a motion if that is allowed in the contract
Dec 25 18:32:57 <PsychoticBoy>	I talked with an lawyer here in Holland and he told me what gigavps or his lawyer is doing is in opposition to
Dec 25 18:32:58 <PsychoticBoy>	 the Dutch and EU Law
Dec 25 18:33:09 <Diablo-D3>	yes, but giga is american
Dec 25 18:33:32 <PsychoticBoy>	but as EU citizen I am not allowed to send him my details if I wanted that
Dec 25 18:33:44 <Diablo-D3>	if he is incorporated in a state that requires a list of all shareholders to be published
Dec 25 18:33:48 <Diablo-D3>	then thats the way it is
Dec 25 18:33:54 <Diablo-D3>	and yes, that actually IS such a thing
Dec 25 18:34:42 <PsychoticBoy>	He is playing by the rules (like he said) But if I am playing by the rules (Dutch/EU law) I get fucked hmmmn that can not be possible
Dec 25 18:34:52 <Diablo-D3>	yes it can
Dec 25 18:34:59 <Diablo-D3>	eu and us law do not always jive
Dec 25 18:35:05 <pigeons>	haha of course its possible
Dec 25 18:35:18 <pigeons>	us law and us law do not always ive
Dec 25 18:35:19 <PsychoticBoy>	I noticed that by now
Dec 25 18:35:24 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: that too
Dec 25 18:35:35 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: problem is, you fucked yourself when you invested in an american company
Dec 25 18:35:53 <Diablo-D3>	thats neither a good or a bad thing. its a statement of fact.
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Dec 25 18:35:59 <PsychoticBoy>	so in otherwords this is a shitty situation for me, I am pushed into a cornerr
Dec 25 18:36:08 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: why not just comply with his request?
Dec 25 18:36:17 <PsychoticBoy>	NO
Dec 25 18:36:20 <PsychoticBoy>	NEVER
Dec 25 18:36:30 <PsychoticBoy>	He makes NEW rules
Dec 25 18:36:37 <Diablo-D3>	he didnt make new rules
Dec 25 18:36:41 <PsychoticBoy>	He could just payout
Dec 25 18:36:56 <Diablo-D3>	if his lawyer has advised him to comply with US laws, then the government is the one that made the rules, not him
Dec 25 18:37:01 <pigeons>	more fun to throw a fit
Dec 25 18:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00064 = 8.48 BTC [+]
Dec 25 18:37:07 <Diablo-D3>	he cant payout to shareholders
Dec 25 18:37:09 <Diablo-D3>	that would be illegal
Dec 25 18:37:55 <PsychoticBoy>	I own 2 shares of gigamining the other 115 shares are owned by FDBF so its a loss for investors if I dont do what giga said but its a matter of principle
Dec 25 18:38:28 <pigeons>	what's FDBF
Dec 25 18:38:31 <Diablo-D3>	then register fdbf as a company, then claim and pay out to your shareholders and then dissolve the company
Dec 25 18:38:37 <PsychoticBoy>	my fund on GLBSE
Dec 25 18:39:01 <PsychoticBoy>	registering a company here in The Netherlands will cost me so NO
Dec 25 18:39:17 <Diablo-D3>	then you lose.
Dec 25 18:39:23 <PsychoticBoy>	no investors
Dec 25 18:39:26 <PsychoticBoy>	klose
Dec 25 18:39:33 <Diablo-D3>	oh no, they'll just go after you.
Dec 25 18:39:35 <Diablo-D3>	so you lose.
Dec 25 18:39:40 <pigeons>	investors who trusted you to look after their interests
Dec 25 18:39:40 <PsychoticBoy>	I lose 2 shares they will lose 115
Dec 25 18:39:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00064 = 9.44 BTC [+]
Dec 25 18:39:49 <pigeons>	so you lose their goodwill
Dec 25 18:39:58 <Diablo-D3>	and you may end up getting scammertagged on the forums as well
Dec 25 18:40:02 <PsychoticBoy>	sure, I allready lost ppls good will
Dec 25 18:40:25 <PsychoticBoy>	I allready have a thread in Scam accusations
Dec 25 18:40:40 <PsychoticBoy>	not that I am proud of
Dec 25 18:41:19 <PsychoticBoy>	I will not get tagged for not sending personal details, theymos already told me that
Dec 25 18:41:56 <PsychoticBoy>	so if the shares will not be claimed by me by sending personal data then its poof gone
Dec 25 18:41:59 <PsychoticBoy>	and thats it
Dec 25 18:42:40 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs.
Dec 25 18:42:51 <Diablo-D3>	find out how much it'll cost to register the company
Dec 25 18:43:01 <Diablo-D3>	if its more than the 117 shares are worth, I wouldnt do it either
Dec 25 18:43:02 <PsychoticBoy>	And guess what I will not send that data ever
Dec 25 18:43:17 *	Diablo-D3 smacks PsychoticBoy until he clues up
Dec 25 18:43:18 <PsychoticBoy>	It will cost me 68 euro
Dec 25 18:43:26 <PsychoticBoy>	to registrer
Dec 25 18:43:33 <PsychoticBoy>	so NO
Dec 25 18:43:49 <PsychoticBoy>	he can keep the change the filty animal
Dec 25 18:43:53 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Dec 25 18:43:56 <Diablo-D3>	okay, thats about 7 BTC
Dec 25 18:44:03 <Diablo-D3>	how much are 117 giga worth?
Dec 25 18:44:10 <PsychoticBoy>	yep for probably 117 x 0.3?
Dec 25 18:44:10 <Diablo-D3>	I bet more than 7 BTC
Dec 25 18:44:28 <PsychoticBoy>	sure but I will not spend my ID on a company
Dec 25 18:44:30 <Diablo-D3>	35 btc.
Dec 25 18:44:40 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: thats why you form the company
Dec 25 18:44:44 <Diablo-D3>	you send him the corporate details
Dec 25 18:44:50 <Diablo-D3>	complete with worthless po box
Dec 25 18:44:50 <pigeons>	I WANNA LOSE MONEY, ITS THE PRINCIPAL
Dec 25 18:44:52 <PsychoticBoy>	yeah in an open free market
Dec 25 18:45:16 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: you want to make this as hard as possible for giga
Dec 25 18:45:21 <Diablo-D3>	comply with his requests.
Dec 25 18:45:24 <Diablo-D3>	when he doesnt, sue him
Dec 25 18:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1837 @ 0.00064 = 1.1757 BTC [+]
Dec 25 18:45:41 <PsychoticBoy>	no not really I offerd him to just pay me 0.1 btc per share and be done with it
Dec 25 18:46:13 <PsychoticBoy>	I will not send my personal data to a stranger
Dec 25 18:46:19 <PsychoticBoy>	period
Dec 25 18:46:31 <pigeons>	but you'll send him money
Dec 25 18:46:37 <PsychoticBoy>	I made that mistake once not twice
Dec 25 18:46:51 <Diablo-D3>	its not your personal data
Dec 25 18:46:56 <Diablo-D3>	its your company's
Dec 25 18:47:10 <PsychoticBoy>	Oh it is, My name , address, etc is personal
Dec 25 18:47:26 <Diablo-D3>	nope, its the fdbf corporate identity.
Dec 25 18:47:53 <PsychoticBoy>	sure, I am not gonna glue my name to FDBF
Dec 25 18:48:06 <Diablo-D3>	you may not have to.
Dec 25 18:48:28 <Diablo-D3>	there are ways under EU law to hide the personal data of corporate officers.
Dec 25 18:48:48 <PsychoticBoy>	I have to investigate that first
Dec 25 18:49:32 <PsychoticBoy>	But the main thing is, sending personal data to claim, wtf
Dec 25 18:50:24 <Diablo-D3>	I already explained that one to you
Dec 25 18:50:29 <Diablo-D3>	its required by law in some states
Dec 25 18:50:36 <Diablo-D3>	all shareholders must be known to the state
Dec 25 18:50:53 <PsychoticBoy>	I know, at some point I can understand it, but but but
Dec 25 18:51:01 <Diablo-D3>	no but but but
Dec 25 18:51:06 <Diablo-D3>	if hes following the law, then thats it
Dec 25 18:51:52 <PsychoticBoy>	Yeah but if I follow the law, then I am not able to send my data if I wish
Dec 25 18:52:12 <Diablo-D3>	I really doubt EU law wont let you claim an investment in a foreign company
Dec 25 18:53:05 <PsychoticBoy>	gigavps does not have a registred company that fits EU regulations
Dec 25 18:53:20 <Diablo-D3>	then request to giga that he does.
Dec 25 18:53:26 <PsychoticBoy>	So no its not possible
Dec 25 18:54:14 <Diablo-D3>	[06:53:20] <Diablo-D3> then request to giga that he does.
Dec 25 18:54:54 <PsychoticBoy>	It will cost him some time and money and maybe even a company change of activities so I doubt giga will do that
Dec 25 18:55:17 <thestringpuller>	don't invest in giga
Dec 25 18:55:21 <thestringpuller>	BANK RUN
Dec 25 18:55:23 <thestringpuller>	PANIC SELL
Dec 25 18:55:26 <thestringpuller>	sell gigabonds
Dec 25 18:55:29 <PsychoticBoy>	I wont in the future
Dec 25 18:55:39 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: you may have violated EU law by investing in giga in the first place
Dec 25 18:55:46 <Diablo-D3>	so dont think you magically get out of this by not claiming
Dec 25 18:56:04 <PsychoticBoy>	You can buy mine, Ill give the email address and btcaddress and even the btc privatekey if you buy my shares
Dec 25 18:56:40 <Diablo-D3>	not interested.
Dec 25 18:56:51 <PsychoticBoy>	<Diablo-D3> PsychoticBoy: you may have violated EU law by investing in giga in the first place << I probably did
Dec 25 18:57:11 <PsychoticBoy>	GLBSE was not legal in the first place so
Dec 25 18:57:24 <PsychoticBoy>	gigamining is not legal when it was on GLBSE
Dec 25 18:58:15 <thestringpuller>	SELL SELL SELL SELL PANIC SELL
Dec 25 18:58:19 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 25 18:58:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.35001, Best ask: 13.38415, Bid-ask spread: 0.03414, Last trade: 13.35001, 24 hour volume: 13165.68956219, 24 hour low: 13.14000, 24 hour high: 13.43000, 24 hour vwap: 13.31228
Dec 25 19:01:19 <PsychoticBoy>	Ok I will think things over, but I am most certain that all my gigamining shares must be counted as a loss
Dec 25 19:03:19 <thestringpuller>	that's a lot of money
Dec 25 19:03:26 <PsychoticBoy>	30 btc?
Dec 25 19:03:29 <thestringpuller>	oh
Dec 25 19:03:33 <thestringpuller>	I thought you said 70
Dec 25 19:03:36 <PsychoticBoy>	at highet 1.5 btc x 117
Dec 25 19:03:49 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 1.5 * 117
Dec 25 19:03:50 <gribble>	175.5
Dec 25 19:03:55 <PsychoticBoy>	probably worth 0.3 atm
Dec 25 19:04:49 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 0.3 * 117
Dec 25 19:04:50 <gribble>	35.1
Dec 25 19:04:53 <PsychoticBoy>	investors paid ~0.7 btc a share
Dec 25 19:05:26 <PsychoticBoy>	so a total investment of more than 70 btc
Dec 25 19:05:47 <pigeons>	;;getrating Batteryfire
Dec 25 19:05:47 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask Batteryfire!~solomonch@c-76-97-22-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net . User batteryfire, rated since Sun Dec 23 14:04:14 2012. Cumulative rating 5, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=batteryfire
Dec 25 19:05:54 <PsychoticBoy>	It is still not worth any possible identity theft etc
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Dec 25 19:16:24 <PsychoticBoy>	good night all I am going to bed, have a very nice Christmas
Dec 25 19:29:04 <thestringpuller>	you too dude
Dec 25 19:29:09 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: are you a pigeon?
Dec 25 19:29:50 <pigeons>	on the internet nobody knows you're a pigeon
Dec 25 19:31:04 <thestringpuller>	http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72odw0NR01qgnsg4.jpg for you pigeons
Dec 25 19:31:08 <thestringpuller>	I'm sure you've seen it
Dec 25 19:31:38 <pigeons>	haha no, but i've been there ;)
Dec 25 19:34:23 <thestringpuller>	were you here for the giga discussion?
Dec 25 19:34:32 <thestringpuller>	sounds like a case for the mpex courts!
Dec 25 19:34:39 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell
Dec 25 19:34:39 <gribble>	(later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
Dec 25 19:38:26 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell PsychoticBoy perhaps you should file a case with the mpex court
Dec 25 19:38:27 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Dec 25 19:40:16 <pigeons>	its a good idea, but i would guess giga wouldn't agree, he would seem to have more to lose
Dec 25 19:43:50 <thestringpuller>	wouldn't he have to if enough people filed against him?
Dec 25 19:49:02 <pigeons>	i was thinking about only PB filing a complaint, but yes if there were a large number he would be more likely to need to address it
Dec 25 19:50:15 <thestringpuller>	cause ultimately if giga doesn't comply and PB has a good case giga will get labeled a scammer via WoT? or what are the other repurcussions of "non-compliance" to the judge's ruling
Dec 25 19:50:19 <thestringpuller>	?*
Dec 25 19:52:52 <pigeons>	i'm not sure, i think the defendent has to agree to the proceedings before they are heard
Dec 25 19:53:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1327 @ 0.00064 = 0.8493 BTC [+]
Dec 25 19:53:39 <pigeons>	also note the claim needs to be for over 100 BTC
Dec 25 19:54:56 <thestringpuller>	ah
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Dec 25 20:18:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00064 = 5.44 BTC [+]
Dec 25 20:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064 = 1.056 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 20:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
Dec 25 20:45:39 <thestringpuller>	so dead in here
Dec 25 20:46:25 <Graet>	yeah. by the time i fuck around and pay for stuff to send and the other fuckery..... i consider my gigamining bonds another rip off.
Dec 25 20:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00064 = 4.576 BTC [+]
Dec 25 20:47:09 <Graet>	for someone that "only deals in bitcoins" it is not an acceptable solution
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Dec 25 21:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Dec 25 21:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00064 = 0.832 BTC [+]
Dec 25 21:14:46 <thestringpuller>	Graet: you only deal in bitcoins?
Dec 25 21:15:53 <Graet>	i need to convert bitcoin to fiat to pay for servers, but i pay miners on my pool in bitcoin yes
Dec 25 21:16:08 <Graet>	thyat was quoting giga
Dec 25 21:29:28 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Dec 25 21:29:44 <thestringpuller>	we should get people to pull their money out of giga and put them into your pool ;)
Dec 25 21:31:09 <Graet>	um, ppl mine with gpus and f[gas atm, not reall an aption to "put money inb"
Dec 25 21:31:18 <Graet>	fpgas*
Dec 25 21:31:43 <Graet>	ozcoin.net if you arent aware :)
Dec 25 21:34:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00064 = 0.896 BTC [+]
Dec 25 21:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00064 = 6.88 BTC [+]
Dec 25 21:44:06 <thestringpuller>	i see
Dec 25 21:44:13 <thestringpuller>	I'm not a miner
Dec 25 22:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064 = 6.4 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 22:05:41 <thestringpuller>	it's dead in here tonight
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Dec 25 22:13:48 <kakobrekla>	people have real life and stuff
Dec 25 22:14:11 <thestringpuller>	real life is boooring
Dec 25 22:14:28 <thestringpuller>	we should be plotting to take over the government or something
Dec 25 22:14:55 <kakobrekla>	im busy
Dec 25 22:16:12 <thestringpuller>	Aren't you a high judge of mpex
Dec 25 22:17:26 <kakobrekla>	i heard i was yea
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Dec 25 22:25:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 526 @ 0.00354059 = 1.8624 BTC [+]
Dec 25 22:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 674 @ 0.00354789 = 2.3913 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 23:01:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1026 @ 0.00354789 = 3.6401 BTC [+]
Dec 25 23:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 322 @ 0.00355774 = 1.1456 BTC [+]
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Dec 25 23:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10597 @ 0.00064 = 6.7821 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 00:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6397 @ 0.00064 = 4.0941 BTC [+]
Dec 26 02:15:05 <Diablo-D3>	jesus, that bfl thread is really taking off
Dec 26 02:15:16 <smickles>	oh?
Dec 26 02:15:46 <Diablo-D3>	inaba is trying to troll his way out
Dec 26 02:15:58 <Diablo-D3>	and everyone is just gang raping him with logic and rationality
Dec 26 02:16:10 <Diablo-D3>	so mrb asked for a 48 hour timeout and I obliged.
Dec 26 02:17:23 <smickles>	I must have missed the news, is it that they haven't yet shipped or some such?
Dec 26 02:17:36 <Diablo-D3>	well, I made a new forum rule
Dec 26 02:17:42 <Diablo-D3>	all bfl discussion happens in the bfl thread
Dec 26 02:17:58 <Diablo-D3>	I got tired of looking at the hardware forums and seeing nothing but bfl threads
Dec 26 02:19:21 <Diablo-D3>	so all the bfl "trolls" (inaba's word(s), not mine) are just spreading the truth around
Dec 26 02:22:06 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87934.msg1420152#msg1420152
Dec 26 02:22:17 <Diablo-D3>	at least I tried to calm it down.
Dec 26 02:25:22 <Diablo-D3>	So everybody gets to sit in time out for 2 days.
Dec 26 02:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1431 @ 0.00349579 = 5.0025 BTC [-]
Dec 26 02:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.04481226 BTC [-]
Dec 26 02:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.00108631 BTC [-]
Dec 26 02:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00064 = 4.8 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 02:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3839 @ 0.00064 = 2.457 BTC [+]
Dec 26 02:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13019 @ 0.00064 = 8.3322 BTC [+]
Dec 26 03:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28711 @ 0.00064 = 18.375 BTC [+]
Dec 26 03:40:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00064 = 6.688 BTC [+]
Dec 26 04:13:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00064 = 3.584 BTC [+]
Dec 26 04:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064 = 2.752 BTC [+]
Dec 26 04:32:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00064 = 12.736 BTC [+]
Dec 26 04:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00064 = 2.688 BTC [+]
Dec 26 04:37:32 <Graet>	no they dont, someone just started a new thread :P
Dec 26 05:02:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00064 = 5.984 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 05:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	smickles nope i have not. the values themselves aren't strictly fixed.
Dec 26 05:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00355774 = 5.3366 BTC [+]
Dec 26 05:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	sooo what's new ?
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Dec 26 05:15:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00064 = 4.192 BTC [+]
Dec 26 05:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9354 @ 0.00064 = 5.9866 BTC [+]
Dec 26 05:51:03 <EskimoBob>	"Diablo-D3 | he cant payout to shareholders  -- that would be illegal" - LOL, in this case he broke the law when he SOLD the shares for start and the circus he is running now... pff... is ugly and only to benefit himself
Dec 26 05:52:52 <EskimoBob>	LOL, this crap is getting funnier by the hour https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1419967#msg1419967
Dec 26 05:53:21 <EskimoBob>	You have to read the last paragraph :)
Dec 26 06:13:23 <PsychoticBoy>	Good morning Christmas ppl
Dec 26 06:14:37 <jurov>	morning
Dec 26 06:15:08 <PsychoticBoy>	whats up with the BFL drama
Dec 26 06:23:13 <EskimoBob>	looks like some guys got way too hysterical over there
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Dec 26 06:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/
Dec 26 06:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone feels like a heavier piece.
Dec 26 06:53:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+]
Dec 26 07:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00064 = 0.448 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 07:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064 = 7.04 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 07:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8525 @ 0.00064 = 5.456 BTC [+]
Dec 26 07:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 08:05:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2417 @ 0.00064 = 1.5469 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 08:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00064 = 3.584 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 08:38:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00064 = 3.296 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 08:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+]
Dec 26 08:59:39 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: so you think cities < village coz anonymity is hindrence for information?
Dec 26 09:13:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9644 @ 0.00064 = 6.1722 BTC [+]
Dec 26 09:17:46 <jurov>	imho he did not meant that villages are better. just that cities are just considered unstable due to that information problem
Dec 26 09:19:24 <jurov>	i found it interesting, but rather one-sided consideration
Dec 26 09:20:33 <jurov>	it's not just goat stealers who find unbearable these "social mores" and impossibility to choose people you want to interact with
Dec 26 09:23:39 <jurov>	these greek cities were such...when you were expunged ("ostracised" word was born there) = social death. not sure if it's so much desirable
Dec 26 09:33:47 <FabianB>	yeah, i think of cities more of statistical stability by mass
Dec 26 09:34:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9492 @ 0.00064 = 6.0749 BTC [+]
Dec 26 09:34:12 <FabianB>	if i need to find that _one_ goat, of course the information in a village to find it is cheaper
Dec 26 09:35:21 <FabianB>	but if i want to find _any_ goat cheese, it's more likely i find one in a city (the village has goat farmers or it doesn't)
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Dec 26 09:48:23 <pigeons>	he said goat
Dec 26 09:48:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00064 = 7.168 BTC [+]
Dec 26 09:50:49 <FabianB>	as city person i'm not interested in a goat, only in it's cheese or meat
Dec 26 09:52:39 <pigeons>	Diablo-D3: there is another option besides bfl being a long con and bfl shipping, and that's bfl doesn't ship cause they fail and suck and design, production, logistics, management, etc
Dec 26 09:53:28 <PsychoticBoy>	duh
Dec 26 10:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00064 = 2.08 BTC [+]
Dec 26 10:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31950 @ 0.00064 = 20.448 BTC [+]
Dec 26 10:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00064 = 2.048 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 10:21:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064 = 2.752 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 10:28:55 <jcpham>	derpity derp
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Dec 26 10:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4921 @ 0.00064 = 3.1494 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 11:39:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 12:16:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00064 = 8.224 BTC [+]
Dec 26 12:50:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00064 = 2.944 BTC [+]
Dec 26 12:58:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45570 @ 0.00064 = 29.1648 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 13:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11054 @ 0.00064 = 7.0746 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 13:15:52 <FabianB>	;;tslb
Dec 26 13:15:56 <gribble>	Time since last block: 29 minutes and 13 seconds
Dec 26 13:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064 = 7.296 BTC [+]
Dec 26 13:23:57 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 26 13:23:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.32904, Best ask: 13.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02095, Last trade: 13.35000, 24 hour volume: 11550.37949720, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.39890, 24 hour vwap: 13.29651
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Dec 26 13:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+]
Dec 26 13:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00064 = 3.264 BTC [+]
Dec 26 13:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 697 @ 0.00064 = 0.4461 BTC [+]
Dec 26 13:52:09 <Diablo-D3>	[09:11:46] <Morblias> lol Diablo-D3. I love Josh's post. 'all rational people base their opinions on evidence' yet they give us 0 evidence ASICs exist. So therefore we can't have any opinions on BFL according to Josh?
Dec 26 13:52:23 <Diablo-D3>	[05:51:03] <EskimoBob> "Diablo-D3 | he cant payout to shareholders  -- that would be illegal" - LOL, in this case he broke the law when he SOLD the shares for start and the circus he is running now... pff... is ugly and only to benefit himself
Dec 26 13:52:33 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: yes, it would be illegal to have sold them to begin with
Dec 26 13:52:57 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: it would have been the intention of not telling the government who his shareholders are that would make it illegal, btw
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Dec 26 13:53:50 <gigavps>	Diablo-D3 they don't have to give info, they have ppl's money
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Dec 26 13:57:22 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: no, in some states you have to tell the state who owns part of the company
Dec 26 13:57:22 <Bugpowder>	gigavps  Is there any way for me to buy shares of gigamining off of people who don't want to send in their AML stuff to you?
Dec 26 13:57:49 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: its technically for partners, but unlisted privately held shares are the same for those states
Dec 26 13:58:05 <gigavps>	Bugpowder if i do that, i'm out of business
Dec 26 13:58:27 <gigavps>	i'd need to register with all the three letter acros
Dec 26 13:58:29 <JWU_42>	:-(
Dec 26 13:59:10 <gigavps>	would cost a whole boat load of $$$$
Dec 26 14:00:14 <Bugpowder>	hmm... ok. so I can only claim my own shares then
Dec 26 14:00:26 <Bugpowder>	did you see this?
Dec 26 14:00:27 <Bugpowder>	http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/27/business/smallbusiness/why-the-sec-is-likely-to-miss-its-deadline-to-write-crowdfunding-rules.html?hpw
Dec 26 14:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11179 @ 0.00064 = 7.1546 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 14:30:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12160 @ 0.00064 = 7.7824 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 14:31:43 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 26 14:31:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37991, Best ask: 13.38890, Bid-ask spread: 0.00899, Last trade: 13.38890, 24 hour volume: 11700.80747747, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.39890, 24 hour vwap: 13.29785
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Dec 26 14:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8116 @ 0.00064 = 5.1942 BTC [+]
Dec 26 14:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00064 = 2.688 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 14:49:12 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 26 14:49:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.35001, Best ask: 13.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 13.35001, 24 hour volume: 11941.19136899, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.40000, 24 hour vwap: 13.30083
Dec 26 14:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB i don't particularly think > or <
Dec 26 14:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	just different things
Dec 26 14:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1958 @ 0.00349579 = 6.8448 BTC [-]
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Dec 26 15:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39400 @ 0.00064 = 25.216 BTC [+]
Dec 26 15:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00064 = 6.304 BTC [+]
Dec 26 15:39:32 <smickles>	;;ident
Dec 26 15:39:32 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Dec 26 15:39:37 <smickles>	;;eauth smickles
Dec 26 15:39:38 <gribble>	Request successful for user smickles, hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/EA62D7CEB2450C3F
Dec 26 15:40:23 <smickles>	;;ident
Dec 26 15:40:24 <gribble>	You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
Dec 26 15:47:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00064 = 2.976 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 15:51:36 <EskimoBob>	AML ... LOL!
Dec 26 16:05:40 <EskimoBob>	do any of you like astronomy?
Dec 26 16:08:24 <JWU_42>	sure
Dec 26 16:12:44 <EskimoBob>	JWU_42: 9 months of cloudy sky! Do you have ANY! idea how it feels?
Dec 26 16:12:56 <EskimoBob>	FUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKK!
Dec 26 16:13:52 <Diablo-D3>	LOL
Dec 26 16:13:57 <Diablo-D3>	theymos removed me as mod
Dec 26 16:14:01 <Diablo-D3>	because I put everyone in timeout
Dec 26 16:14:08 <Diablo-D3>	I guess thats the end of bitcointalk
Dec 26 16:14:09 <Diablo-D3>	the scammers won
Dec 26 16:14:30 <EskimoBob>	no shit!
Dec 26 16:14:41 <EskimoBob>	so the took your admin rights?
Dec 26 16:15:25 <Diablo-D3>	mod, not admin
Dec 26 16:15:49 <Diablo-D3>	so, if someone dox the entire BFL staff and their close family, well, I wont be able to stop that
Dec 26 16:16:07 <EskimoBob>	make me a mod
Dec 26 16:16:24 <EskimoBob>	you will love the peace and quiet
Dec 26 16:16:36 <Diablo-D3>	so I think theymos is a bfl shill
Dec 26 16:16:44 <Diablo-D3>	why else would he want the hardware forum's front page all bfl threads
Dec 26 16:17:25 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: to be honest, mods in bitcointalk are idiots and way too lenient
Dec 26 16:17:49 <EskimoBob>	theymos is a fkn click whore
Dec 26 16:17:50 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, I think that day I threw all the bfl threads in offtopic was the most mod actions ever.
Dec 26 16:18:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03968734 BTC [-]
Dec 26 16:18:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.02400107 BTC [+]
Dec 26 16:19:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.01359389 BTC [-]
Dec 26 16:19:16 <EskimoBob>	those fucktard mods are not really mods but fkn click whores
Dec 26 16:19:55 <EskimoBob>	they are not doing their job :)
Dec 26 16:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00064 = 5.184 BTC [+]
Dec 26 16:21:27 <Diablo-D3>	welp, we now know who the enemies of the community are
Dec 26 16:21:45 <Diablo-D3>	and guess what, I outrank theymos in bitcoin deity status
Dec 26 16:21:51 <Diablo-D3>	so lets see how he fixes this one
Dec 26 16:22:32 <EskimoBob>	"who the enemies of the community are" - who are they?
Dec 26 16:22:44 <JWU_42>	sounds miserable
Dec 26 16:24:30 <JWU_42>	the 9 months of clouds...
Dec 26 16:27:44 <EskimoBob>	you have no idea :)
Dec 26 16:28:34 <EskimoBob>	I have my scopes and cameras etc set and waiting .... 9 fkn months of nothing
Dec 26 16:29:55 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: EVERYONE.
Dec 26 16:30:02 <Diablo-D3>	MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dec 26 16:34:02 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: seriously though
Dec 26 16:34:11 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder why theymos sided with the scammers
Dec 26 16:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12672 @ 0.00064 = 8.1101 BTC [+]
Dec 26 16:42:17 <EskimoBob>	theymos  is a scumbag so what did you expect?
Dec 26 16:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13236 @ 0.00064 = 8.471 BTC [+]
Dec 26 16:48:12 <PsychoticBoy>	hmmn
Dec 26 16:49:03 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: wtf are you laughing abut?
Dec 26 16:49:22 <Diablo-D3>	everyone being the enemy?
Dec 26 16:49:50 <EskimoBob>	and who laughs starting it with "m"
Dec 26 16:50:02 <EskimoBob>	hold on , let me try that
Dec 26 16:50:36 <EskimoBob>	no fkn way I can start my laughter with letter "m"
Dec 26 16:51:14 <EskimoBob>	and add "u" to that
Dec 26 16:51:49 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: its an evil laugh
Dec 26 16:52:02 *	EskimoBob thinks... maybe I have to be a retarder american for that shit
Dec 26 16:52:40 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: you "read" too many comix books
Dec 26 16:52:44 <EskimoBob>	:)
Dec 26 16:52:53 <Diablo-D3>	you obviously didnt get it
Dec 26 16:53:17 <EskimoBob>	probably not, we do not read coimix here
Dec 26 16:53:31 <Diablo-D3>	and thats older than comics
Dec 26 16:53:54 <EskimoBob>	hold on, let me start laughing with letter "m"
Dec 26 16:54:03 *	EskimoBob laughs
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Dec 26 16:54:14 <jurov>	bitcoin deity status - wtf?
Dec 26 16:54:15 <EskimoBob>	nope... no letter "m"
Dec 26 16:54:26 <EskimoBob>	nor "u"
Dec 26 16:54:39 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: say moo, then ha ha, ha ha, ha ha
Dec 26 16:54:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10464 @ 0.00064 = 6.697 BTC [+]
Dec 26 16:55:00 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: yes, I am a bitgod.
Dec 26 16:55:03 <EskimoBob>	cows say "moo"
Dec 26 16:55:12 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: well, its more of a muah
Dec 26 16:55:12 <jurov>	Diablo-D3, how so?
Dec 26 16:55:35 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: one of the first 100 users, wrote diablominer, brought the most people into the community, etc etc
Dec 26 16:55:35 *	EskimoBob walks out
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Dec 26 16:57:22 <jurov>	meh. i could have been there too. remember trying some early version of bicoin-qt, it did not work.
Dec 26 16:57:34 <jurov>	i gave up and forgot till 2011
Dec 26 16:58:00 <Diablo-D3>	lol, bitcoin-qt didnt even exist yet
Dec 26 16:58:40 <jurov>	it's all mostly chance
Dec 26 16:58:40 <kakobrekla>	;;ub
Dec 26 16:58:41 <gribble>	Error: "ub" is not a valid command.
Dec 26 16:59:15 <kakobrekla>	;;google urban muahaha
Dec 26 16:59:16 <gribble>	Urban Dictionary: muahaha: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=muahaha>; Urban Dictionary: MUAHAHAHAHA: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MUAHAHAHAHA>; Urban Dictionary: Author muahaha: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=muahaha>
Dec 26 16:59:26 <kakobrekla>	fyi.
Dec 26 16:59:45 <jurov>	oh smite me
Dec 26 17:01:42 *	Diablo-D3 smites jurov gently
Dec 26 17:02:07 <jurov>	;;ud smite
Dec 26 17:02:08 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smite | the use of god-like force in a way that cleaves,crushes or shatters said object or person.
Dec 26 17:02:18 <jurov>	quite an oxymoron you got there
Dec 26 17:02:33 <Diablo-D3>	I used lube.
Dec 26 17:03:01 <jurov>	ofc i forgot, bitcoin gods have 55lbs barrels of lube handy
Dec 26 17:04:01 <jurov>	no, 55 gallon drums more exactly
Dec 26 17:10:36 <pigeons>	so i got emails from btct that usagi had created assets for CPA and NYAN but their gone
Dec 26 17:10:42 <pigeons>	they're
Dec 26 17:11:15 <pigeons>	oops looking wrong place there they are
Dec 26 17:20:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+]
Dec 26 17:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.00064 = 29.568 BTC [+]
Dec 26 17:31:51 <jurov>	so bitcoin tabloid has new site...
Dec 26 17:32:00 <jurov>	and all old comments happen to be wiped
Dec 26 17:32:51 <jurov>	no new articles
Dec 26 17:34:30 <jurov>	no, there's one dated dec 25 2012.. from vitalik buterin? didn't they get rid of him?
Dec 26 17:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03956962 BTC [-]
Dec 26 17:36:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.0232923 BTC [-]
Dec 26 17:36:48 <jurov>	I believe that rewards based social media is the next logical step in this fascinating evolution of human interaction.
Dec 26 17:37:00 <jurov>	oh my. kill with fire
Dec 26 17:37:55 <jurov>	I believe that the Arab Spring is just the beginning of this social “awakening” that we are witnessing world wide. I believe that every single dictator in power today will not be there in 10 years’ time.
Dec 26 17:38:49 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: truly something for both you and the girl to get hives from
Dec 26 17:38:50 <jurov>	http://bitcoinmagazine.com/uptweet-social-media-and-bitcoin-meet-again/
Dec 26 17:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol i dun think anyone cares about the bitcoin rag.
Dec 26 17:39:46 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: okay its this
Dec 26 17:39:58 <Diablo-D3>	usagi created assets at bitfunder
Dec 26 17:40:03 <Diablo-D3>	then at btct
Dec 26 17:40:25 <Diablo-D3>	and then bitfunder said "usagi isnt opening here, hes opening at btct"
Dec 26 17:40:37 <Diablo-D3>	well, ukto said
Dec 26 17:40:50 <Diablo-D3>	then usagi said "wtf, you stabbed me in the back, ukto is a spy!"
Dec 26 17:41:24 <Diablo-D3>	and then ukto said "yes, my little cauliflower, I am the best spy that ever lived."
Dec 26 17:44:01 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Dec 26 17:45:53 *	Diablo-D3 eats sandvitch while reading forums
Dec 26 17:47:25 <jurov>	isn't the forum stuff making your throat stiff and dry?
Dec 26 17:47:38 <jurov>	oh yes, you use the lube
Dec 26 17:48:07 <Diablo-D3>	mo, vwid sandviwtch I use beer
Dec 26 17:48:44 <Diablo-D3>	medic, eh, he say not drink so much beer, bad for liver, what would medic know, eh? he is only german.
Dec 26 17:49:05 <jurov>	and you are? czech?
Dec 26 17:49:11 <Diablo-D3>	RUSSIAN!
Dec 26 17:49:21 <Diablo-D3>	I AM HEAVY WEAPONS GUY.
Dec 26 17:50:17 <jurov>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption
Dec 26 17:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6346 @ 0.00064 = 4.0614 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 17:51:34 <jurov>	nuclear paper tiger
Dec 26 17:52:17 <jurov>	russians should make love, not booze
Dec 26 17:52:39 <jurov>	or heavy weapons
Dec 26 17:52:59 <jurov>	:P
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Dec 26 17:59:34 <pigeons>	then usagi said, "the illuminati who shut nefario down have threatened ukto, cause why else could ukto possible refuse to be associated with the great and terrible usagi?"
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Dec 26 18:01:48 <jurov>	Grace of almighty above and his sexy virgin, have mercy with that poor soul.
Dec 26 18:05:55 <pigeons>	i saw jurov kissing santa claus
Dec 26 18:06:39 <jurov>	which one?
Dec 26 18:06:57 <pigeons>	heh
Dec 26 18:09:34 <kakobrekla>	May our Lord Jesus Christ wash this earth with His holy light and purge its darkest places from heathens and philistines.
Dec 26 18:12:12 <pigeons>	"And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes."
Dec 26 18:13:06 <pigeons>	#bitcoin-eligius
Dec 26 18:13:16 <kakobrekla>	;>
Dec 26 18:13:36 <kakobrekla>	i just pasted a quote from dead man, seemed apropriate
Dec 26 18:13:51 <kakobrekla>	if you havent seen that move (anyone really)... go watch it
Dec 26 18:18:55 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 26 18:18:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37880, Best ask: 13.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02120, Last trade: 13.37854, 24 hour volume: 16004.35697487, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.46997, 24 hour vwap: 13.33833
Dec 26 18:19:02 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smjckle
Dec 26 18:19:03 <gribble>	I have not seen smjckle.
Dec 26 18:19:08 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 26 18:19:09 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ident
Dec 26 18:19:43 <thestringpuller>	so. snow belt. nothing to play with.
Dec 26 18:19:45 <jurov>	smickles is still busy with the mpex orders ids code
Dec 26 18:20:15 <jurov>	thestringpuller, iirc you wanted to have some api?
Dec 26 18:21:23 <thestringpuller>	yea for mod6 and i
Dec 26 18:21:35 <thestringpuller>	ima talk with him soon
Dec 26 18:23:24 <thestringpuller>	its for the mpex app
Dec 26 18:23:45 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu may think its weird still tho
Dec 26 18:23:50 <thestringpuller>	and api for an api
Dec 26 18:23:55 <thestringpuller>	an*
Dec 26 18:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00064 = 1.792 BTC [+]
Dec 26 18:27:20 <jurov>	okay
Dec 26 18:27:51 <jurov>	must add key auth then, i guess you don't want to mess with cookies
Dec 26 18:30:16 <jurov>	i have maybe 10 branches in git of various functions.... and as i know myself, i'll finish most of them at once. madness
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Dec 26 18:40:35 <thestringpuller>	the octo-workflow lol
Dec 26 18:40:46 <smickles>	< jurov> smickles is still busy with the mpex orders ids code <<< heh, actually, it took me about 20 min to write the code while taking care of my daughter and then a few hours trying to figure out why you thought it was so difficult
Dec 26 18:40:59 <smickles>	p.s. i gave up
Dec 26 18:41:05 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Dec 26 18:42:07 <smickles>	actually, I said that for humor. It would be more accurate to say that I figured we had different goals
Dec 26 18:42:25 <smickles>	my code does what I want it to do, I'm sure your code does what you want it to do
Dec 26 18:43:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 26 18:43:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45001, Best ask: 13.45900, Bid-ask spread: 0.00899, Last trade: 13.45001, 24 hour volume: 15765.04593929, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.46997, 24 hour vwap: 13.34181
Dec 26 18:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064 = 6.016 BTC [+]
Dec 26 18:52:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.DICE
Dec 26 18:52:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00349579 / 0.00352604 / 0.00355774 (7437 shares, 26.22 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0030785 / 0.0037 (8872282 shares, 27,313.38 BTC)
Dec 26 18:53:16 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Dec 26 18:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00064 / 0.00064 / 0.00064 (656012 shares, 419.85 BTC), 30day: 0.00050368 / 0.0005583 / 0.00064 (81022468 shares, 45,234.99 BTC)
Dec 26 18:56:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00064 = 2.848 BTC [+]
Dec 26 19:06:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00064 = 5.568 BTC [+]
Dec 26 19:10:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10486 @ 0.00064 = 6.711 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 19:44:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 19:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00064 = 5.12 BTC [+]
Dec 26 20:18:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10153 @ 0.00064 = 6.4979 BTC [+]
Dec 26 20:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8486 @ 0.00064 = 5.431 BTC [+]
Dec 26 20:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00064 = 11.456 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 20:43:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1026 @ 0.00064 = 0.6566 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 21:04:37 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu  What's max pain for btc OpEx this month?
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Dec 26 21:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4269 @ 0.00064 = 2.7322 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 21:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder around 13ish
Dec 26 21:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	i don't normally compute it
Dec 26 21:26:19 <smickles>	heh, I could imagine it being a difficult number to look at often
Dec 26 21:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1349 @ 0.00064 = 0.8634 BTC [+]
Dec 26 21:28:37 <smickles>	;;lucky thaumiting
Dec 26 21:28:38 <gribble>	http://www.giantbomb.com/achievements/honey-badger-dont-care/117345/
Dec 26 21:29:30 <smickles>	ಠ_ಠ
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Dec 26 21:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9825 @ 0.00064 = 6.288 BTC [+]
Dec 26 21:32:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2540 @ 0.00064 = 1.6256 BTC [+]
Dec 26 21:32:41 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: do you like jazz?
Dec 26 21:32:45 <thestringpuller>	or are you a jazz hater?
Dec 26 21:33:00 <mircea_popescu>	i like it
Dec 26 21:33:24 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 26 21:33:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44991, Best ask: 13.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 13.44991, 24 hour volume: 17358.44862787, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.35560
Dec 26 21:34:11 <thestringpuller>	I'ma promote a jazz concert with BTC
Dec 26 21:38:20 <smickles>	lol, somehow, i'm reminded of this girl in my highschool year, sara campen, she changed her name, legally, from what her parents named her (she already went by sara in defiance of them until she turned 18)
Dec 26 21:38:29 <smickles>	Ima Gohen Campen
Dec 26 21:40:12 <thestringpuller>	oh smickles you silly goose
Dec 26 21:40:37 <thestringpuller>	how goes the bot to destroy the mpoe bot?
Dec 26 21:41:37 <smickles>	heh, I'm not out to destroy mpoebot
Dec 26 21:42:31 <thestringpuller>	You're out to make more money than mpoebot ;)
Dec 26 21:42:46 <smickles>	that would be quite nice
Dec 26 21:43:07 <smickles>	I wouoldn't mind thousands of btc per month or something like that.
Dec 26 21:43:27 <smickles>	i'd be the new mircea_popescu :D
Dec 26 21:43:33 <thestringpuller>	get you some bondholders first ;)
Dec 26 21:43:44 <thestringpuller>	and hope there isn't a pirate ponzi
Dec 26 21:43:53 <smickles>	meh, then it wouldn't be my thousands of btc
Dec 26 21:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 26 21:44:50 <smickles>	really, this market maker bot is an elaborate mission to taste real whiskey
Dec 26 21:44:59 <thestringpuller>	put your daughter's future college tuition up?
Dec 26 21:45:07 <thestringpuller>	real whiskey?
Dec 26 21:45:14 <thestringpuller>	from kentucky? (i kid)
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Dec 26 21:46:15 <smickles>	i think the majority of my daughter's future tuition is my wife's motgomery gi bill
Dec 26 21:46:20 <smickles>	so no go there
Dec 26 21:47:37 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 26 21:47:54 <thestringpuller>	tell me about this mission to taste real whiskey
Dec 26 21:47:59 <thestringpuller>	which whiskey exactly?
Dec 26 21:51:20 <smickles>	I dunno, I suppose I need to define the outcome :|
Dec 26 21:52:23 <smickles>	porlly some kind of scotch
Dec 26 21:52:33 <smickles>	i'll need a mentor!
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Dec 26 21:58:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.0205393 BTC [-]
Dec 26 22:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8941 @ 0.00064 = 5.7222 BTC [+]
Dec 26 22:18:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
Dec 26 22:23:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10272 @ 0.00064 = 6.5741 BTC [+]
Dec 26 22:43:12 <thestringpuller>	!ticker O.BTCUSD.C130T
Dec 26 22:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1day: 0.03956962 / 0.0413564 / 0.04481226 (3 shares, 0.12 BTC), 30day: 0.03956962 / 0.14250577 / 0.20783398 (12077 shares, 1,721.04 BTC)
Dec 26 22:59:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00064 = 5.408 BTC [+]
Dec 26 23:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00064 = 6.464 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 23:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00354391 = 1.5948 BTC [+]
Dec 26 23:19:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8812 @ 0.00064 = 5.6397 BTC [+]
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Dec 26 23:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
Dec 26 23:33:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
Dec 26 23:41:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00064 = 2.496 BTC [+]
Dec 26 23:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00064 = 5.92 BTC [+]
Dec 26 23:52:31 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3, pigeons: lol
Dec 26 23:52:42 <Diablo-D3>	UKTO IS SPY!
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Dec 26 23:53:08 <Diablo-D3>	hrm, if ukto has dead ringer, does that mean ukto is now the little girl?
Dec 26 23:53:36 <Ukto>	cute little girls.. the most dangerous weapons in teh world
Dec 26 23:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00064 = 12.128 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 00:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10207 @ 0.00064 = 6.5325 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 00:24:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00064 = 2.432 BTC [+]
Dec 27 00:29:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00064 = 3.968 BTC [+]
Dec 27 00:39:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00064 = 9.472 BTC [+]
Dec 27 00:47:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00064 = 11.648 BTC [+]
Dec 27 00:59:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8676 @ 0.00064 = 5.5526 BTC [+]
Dec 27 01:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3556 @ 0.00064 = 2.2758 BTC [+]
Dec 27 01:08:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00064 = 13.472 BTC [+]
Dec 27 01:13:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11036 @ 0.00064 = 7.063 BTC [+]
Dec 27 01:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00064 = 4.256 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 01:20:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.00064 = 3.6986 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 01:35:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00064 = 3.904 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 01:56:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00064 = 4.8 BTC [+]
Dec 27 02:03:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00064 = 8.512 BTC [+]
Dec 27 02:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00064 = 6.784 BTC [+]
Dec 27 02:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00064 = 1.856 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 02:42:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064 = 6.016 BTC [+]
Dec 27 02:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6763 @ 0.00064 = 4.3283 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 03:07:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00354391 = 7.9738 BTC [+]
Dec 27 03:07:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 536 @ 0.00355774 = 1.9069 BTC [+]
Dec 27 03:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00356596 = 6.4187 BTC [+]
Dec 27 03:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9830 @ 0.00064 = 6.2912 BTC [+]
Dec 27 03:15:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8490 @ 0.00064 = 5.4336 BTC [+]
Dec 27 03:55:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00064 = 5.472 BTC [+]
Dec 27 04:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+]
Dec 27 04:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14084 @ 0.00064 = 9.0138 BTC [+]
Dec 27 04:17:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00064 = 8.32 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 04:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00064 = 2.016 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 04:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00064 = 6.976 BTC [+]
Dec 27 05:05:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00064 = 15.552 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 05:09:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00064 = 11.2 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 05:14:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1339 @ 0.00358998 = 4.807 BTC [+]
Dec 27 05:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00064 = 5.216 BTC [+]
Dec 27 05:37:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00064 = 4.416 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 05:51:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00064 = 2.592 BTC [+]
Dec 27 05:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00064 = 7.936 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 06:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36250 @ 0.00064 = 23.2 BTC [+]
Dec 27 06:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00064 = 1.696 BTC [+]
Dec 27 06:25:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00358998 = 3.231 BTC [+]
Dec 27 06:43:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 876 @ 0.00358469 = 3.1402 BTC [-]
Dec 27 06:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00064 = 4.96 BTC [+]
Dec 27 06:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00064 = 4.352 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 07:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00064 = 7.072 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 07:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00064 = 2.592 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 08:03:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00064 = 13.76 BTC [+]
Dec 27 08:10:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00064 = 0.576 BTC [+]
Dec 27 08:12:02 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 27 08:12:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45848, Best ask: 13.45882, Bid-ask spread: 0.00034, Last trade: 13.45848, 24 hour volume: 20579.82684084, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.37609
Dec 27 08:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 08:43:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7057 @ 0.00064 = 4.5165 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 09:02:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00064 = 4.288 BTC [+]
Dec 27 09:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38800 @ 0.00064 = 24.832 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 09:17:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00064 = 5.088 BTC [+]
Dec 27 09:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12914 @ 0.00064 = 8.265 BTC [+]
Dec 27 09:54:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4149 @ 0.00064 = 2.6554 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 10:19:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6262 @ 0.00064 = 4.0077 BTC [+]
Dec 27 10:30:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00064 = 7.872 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 10:46:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3038 @ 0.00064 = 1.9443 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 10:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064 = 1.92 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 10:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00064 = 5.44 BTC [+]
Dec 27 10:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 24 @ 0.00358469 = 0.086 BTC [-]
Dec 27 11:00:55 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 27 11:00:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.28885, Best ask: 13.38625, Bid-ask spread: 0.09740, Last trade: 13.26462, 24 hour volume: 20206.19504333, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39122
Dec 27 11:01:04 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Dec 27 11:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7152 @ 0.00064 = 4.5773 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 11:26:00 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 27 11:26:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.38451, Best ask: 13.39286, Bid-ask spread: 0.00835, Last trade: 13.39286, 24 hour volume: 19951.43758602, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39346
Dec 27 11:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1410 @ 0.00064 = 0.9024 BTC [+]
Dec 27 11:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00064 = 5.28 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 11:42:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00064 = 3.488 BTC [+]
Dec 27 11:46:54 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mod6
Dec 27 11:46:54 <gribble>	mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 18 hours, 15 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <mod6> \o/
Dec 27 11:47:08 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 27 11:47:09 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 54 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <smickles> i'll need a mentor!
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Dec 27 11:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00064 = 7.584 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 11:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha gotta love good servers.
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Dec 27 15:03:13 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Dec 27 15:03:13 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades
Dec 27 15:03:13 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 12:40:09 2012
Dec 27 15:03:37 *	You are now known as Guest54088
Dec 27 15:04:10 <Bugpowder>	Can people buy in to KV1?
Dec 27 15:05:11 <Bugpowder>	kakobrekla what is the fee structure for kv1?  what is the leverage used?
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Dec 27 15:06:27 <pizzaman1337>	This should clear automatically in 2-3 business days in most cases. We apologize for any inconvenience." for almost 2 weeks now.
Dec 27 15:06:39 <pizzaman1337>	weird
Dec 27 15:06:51 <kakobrekla>	on gox?
Dec 27 15:07:00 <smickles>	i bet .5 btc
Dec 27 15:07:09 <smickles>	in favor of it being gox
Dec 27 15:07:35 <pizzaman1337>	campbx.com
Dec 27 15:07:45 <pizzaman1337>	smickles: I'll take your .5 btc :)
Dec 27 15:09:00 <smickles>	heh, i'm glad noone actually took the bet. pizzaman1337 I should hope you'd recuse yourself from betting, as it was you who had the answer ;)
Dec 27 15:09:21 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, slightly unfair...
Dec 27 15:09:24 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder, 1:500 but that high its not needed, theres max of 0.4 lots that it can open with 4 pairs now so it wont overtrade, fee is 20% of the profits because its a highly maintained system (closing trades are mostly manualy)
Dec 27 15:11:16 <Bugpowder>	what about losing months, is there a fee?  Are previous month's losses subtracted from subsequent month's gains prior to calculating the performance fee?
Dec 27 15:12:42 <smickles>	betting is an interesting way of outting the baysian mind. if you are 100% sure of something, then you should have absolutely no issue betting 100% of your money, in fact, you should have no issue doing that and borrowing more to bet as well. Point being, people tend to say (and self deludedly believe) they are 100% sure of something, yet would hesitate to risk all they own on a bet to that end
Dec 27 15:13:34 <kakobrekla>	fees are only on profits, for now profits are paid out monthly, after a few months we will go with a closed fund probably, paying out monthly profits is not a wise idea in the first place but with much fluctuation now i dont have much choice
Dec 27 15:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03464639 BTC [-]
Dec 27 15:18:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00064 = 2.272 BTC [+]
Dec 27 15:19:02 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 27 15:19:03 <gribble>	13.36
Dec 27 15:20:48 <smickles>	;;ticker
Dec 27 15:20:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.39889, Best ask: 13.39970, Bid-ask spread: 0.00081, Last trade: 13.39888, 24 hour volume: 20296.08468303, 24 hour low: 13.26355, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.40203
Dec 27 15:21:23 <smickles>	that C130T seems downright ballsy to me
Dec 27 15:21:49 <smickles>	if i'm correct, it breaks even at 13.475~
Dec 27 15:21:57 <smickles>	*13.465!
Dec 27 15:22:19 <Bugpowder>	kakobrekla  Well.... 7 trades total?  If your performance keeps up I may be interested.
Dec 27 15:22:27 <smickles>	we could see a 10 cent move in a day
Dec 27 15:22:48 <smickles>	and today's high on bitcoincharts shows 13.47 at that!
Dec 27 15:22:53 <kakobrekla>	ya, first was a bug :)
Dec 27 15:23:26 <kakobrekla>	then one was bad, and one was 0 cause we got cold feet, it would end up +20
Dec 27 15:23:57 <Bugpowder>	"we got cold feet"  who is pulling the trigger, the software or a person?
Dec 27 15:24:18 <kakobrekla>	exits are semi automated / controlled
Dec 27 15:24:45 <kakobrekla>	it will exit on its own
Dec 27 15:24:50 <kakobrekla>	but we prefer to manage it
Dec 27 15:25:10 <kakobrekla>	anyway, this is only the first version
Dec 27 15:25:36 <kakobrekla>	about a year of cpu time went in it
Dec 27 15:26:13 <kakobrekla>	but not i have mt5 could set up
Dec 27 15:26:31 <kakobrekla>	a result that would take a year before takes an hour now
Dec 27 15:26:38 <kakobrekla>	a year to get
Dec 27 15:27:27 <kakobrekla>	but shit need to be recoded then for mt4 unfortanetly :)
Dec 27 15:29:00 <kakobrekla>	anyway its tested on 4 years backtest or so
Dec 27 15:29:02 <kakobrekla>	the kv1
Dec 27 15:29:04 <kakobrekla>	didnt blow
Dec 27 15:29:14 <kakobrekla>	had periods when it made little to nothing
Dec 27 15:29:18 <kakobrekla>	and then had good periods
Dec 27 15:29:32 <Bugpowder>	how do you backtest if a human pulls the trigger?
Dec 27 15:29:44 <kakobrekla>	w/o human ofc.
Dec 27 15:30:03 <kakobrekla>	yes the result will be different
Dec 27 15:30:04 <kakobrekla>	but
Dec 27 15:30:07 <Bugpowder>	right, but if you have a human pulling the trigger in the real implementation the backtest is not valide
Dec 27 15:30:08 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Dec 27 15:30:09 <kakobrekla>	it will be different in any case
Dec 27 15:30:14 <Bugpowder>	sure
Dec 27 15:30:18 <kakobrekla>	backtest doestn mean that much
Dec 27 15:30:24 <Bugpowder>	i agree
Dec 27 15:30:24 <kakobrekla>	but it can tell you something.
Dec 27 15:30:39 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Dec 27 15:30:47 <kakobrekla>	if i have a bot that will burn in 4 years
Dec 27 15:30:50 <kakobrekla>	of backtest
Dec 27 15:30:57 <kakobrekla>	i wont put in live not in a dream
Dec 27 15:31:02 <kakobrekla>	even if its perfect for 1year
Dec 27 15:31:13 <kakobrekla>	well i gues it would depends on amount of trading
Dec 27 15:31:22 <kakobrekla>	at least 100 trades, rather 500
Dec 27 15:31:25 <kakobrekla>	to evaluate
Dec 27 15:31:38 <Bugpowder>	yeah....
Dec 27 15:31:44 <Bugpowder>	but you need time too
Dec 27 15:31:55 <Bugpowder>	market dynamics shift over many lengthscales
Dec 27 15:32:36 <kakobrekla>	if it will get through 4 years i dont expect it to blow in a month
Dec 27 15:32:47 <kakobrekla>	it might
Dec 27 15:32:51 <kakobrekla>	but it shouldnt
Dec 27 15:32:57 <kakobrekla>	:)
Dec 27 15:33:13 <Bugpowder>	would be nice to see how it handles 07-08
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Dec 27 15:34:30 <kakobrekla>	i could run a test if you are really that interested
Dec 27 15:35:48 <kakobrekla>	i guess at this point is best enky speaks as well.
Dec 27 15:36:50 <Bugpowder>	well let's defer this for a bit.  Need to get back to wrok
Dec 27 15:37:00 <Bugpowder>	will be watching with interest though
Dec 27 15:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064 = 2.112 BTC [+]
Dec 27 15:37:37 <smickles>	heh, it's probably interesting to see how any bot handles 07-08
Dec 27 15:39:36 <smickles>	kakobrekla: you should test your bot on usd/gbp years 29-30
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Dec 27 15:40:27 <kakobrekla>	cant
Dec 27 15:40:51 <smickles>	damn, is there really no data from back then?
Dec 27 15:41:10 <kakobrekla>	well, not in a useful form
Dec 27 15:41:44 <smickles>	too bad, that would be fun
Dec 27 15:44:26 <Bugpowder>	Nasdaq green
Dec 27 15:44:28 <Bugpowder>	wtf
Dec 27 15:44:39 <Bugpowder>	"Stocks Pare Losses as House to Reconvene Sunday"
Dec 27 15:44:48 <Bugpowder>	ugh
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Dec 27 15:45:50 <pizzaman1337>	why, were you shorting?
Dec 27 15:45:53 <Bugpowder>	no
Dec 27 15:45:57 <Bugpowder>	I wanted to buy
Dec 27 15:46:16 <Bugpowder>	but can only at EOD price
Dec 27 15:46:22 <Bugpowder>	guess I will keep waiting
Dec 27 15:46:32 <pizzaman1337>	why only at EOD?
Dec 27 15:47:09 <bonafide>	haha
Dec 27 15:47:15 <Bugpowder>	Vanguard exchange from MM to fund
Dec 27 15:47:19 <bonafide>	everyone that shorted
Dec 27 15:47:26 <bonafide>	got fucked
Dec 27 15:47:52 <bonafide>	hope you got enough for more than intraday holding
Dec 27 15:48:33 <Bugpowder>	I never sell.
Dec 27 15:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol he's the bughole of stocks
Dec 27 15:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	only buys
Dec 27 15:48:50 <bonafide>	are you long or short
Dec 27 15:49:08 <bonafide>	wait what
Dec 27 15:49:11 <Bugpowder>	long
Dec 27 15:49:18 <bonafide>	what are you in
Dec 27 15:50:02 <bonafide>	I'm still tapping the jpy atm.. but getting out tmrw afternoon and taking gains
Dec 27 15:50:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
Dec 27 15:50:07 <bonafide>	fecal cliff wont steal my monies
Dec 27 15:50:08 <Bugpowder>	VOO (ETF); VFIAX (admiralty) VVIAX (admiralty) VBF (ETF); VISVX (regular); no exact admiralty VGPMX (regular); no admiralty VGENX (regular); VGELX (admiralty 100K) VGSIX (regular); VGSLX (admiralty) VWO (ETF); VEMAX (admiralty) VTIAX (admiralty) VTRIX (regular); no admiralty  VWITX (regular); VWIUX (admiralty)   VBIIX (regular); VBILX (admiralty)   VIPSX (regular); VAIPX (admiralty for 50k)  VBLTX (regular); no adm; VWLTX (
Dec 27 15:50:43 <Bugpowder>	at various percentages
Dec 27 15:50:52 <bonafide>	nice
Dec 27 15:51:19 <Bugpowder>	Also S.DICE
Dec 27 15:51:21 <Bugpowder>	:)
Dec 27 15:51:31 <bonafide>	I'm shuttin down my EUR/JPY positions and thinking of going long EUR/USD as a fecal cliff play
Dec 27 15:51:40 <thestringpuller>	short S.DICE
Dec 27 15:51:47 <Bugpowder>	why, why?
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Dec 27 15:52:14 <bonafide>	the newly elected people in Japan got in, made their announcements
Dec 27 15:52:17 <bonafide>	there was a nice move
Dec 27 15:52:17 <thestringpuller>	ls
Dec 27 15:52:20 <bonafide>	they set a target
Dec 27 15:52:22 <thestringpuller>	lllllllllp
Dec 27 15:52:29 <bonafide>	but they don't get into office to actually set policy
Dec 27 15:52:34 <bonafide>	until next month
Dec 27 15:52:38 <thestringpuller>	people are manipulation S.DICE
Dec 27 15:52:46 <thestringpuller>	or someone is
Dec 27 15:52:54 <Bugpowder>	bonafide, i see
Dec 27 15:52:58 <mircea_popescu>	either people or someone.
Dec 27 15:53:01 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller what is the evidence?
Dec 27 15:53:06 <Bugpowder>	of manipulation?
Dec 27 15:53:22 <bonafide>	I could stay long, but I like taking nice gains and reposition on the pullback
Dec 27 15:54:03 <bonafide>	I dont have many equities
Dec 27 15:54:08 <bonafide>	just JPM, GOOG and DHI
Dec 27 15:54:25 <bonafide>	buy orders for TI, SODA
Dec 27 15:54:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating bonafide
Dec 27 15:54:38 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Dec 27 15:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	buy some wot.
Dec 27 15:55:39 <bonafide>	getrating?
Dec 27 15:56:00 <Bugpowder>	I like MARV here
Dec 27 15:56:15 <Bugpowder>	I think the verdict will be reduced
Dec 27 15:56:33 <Bugpowder>	sorry MRVL
Dec 27 15:56:35 <bonafide>	marv?
Dec 27 15:56:37 <bonafide>	oh okay
Dec 27 15:57:06 <bonafide>	who's their biggest contracts
Dec 27 15:57:10 <Bugpowder>	RIMM
Dec 27 15:57:13 <Bugpowder>	unfortunately
Dec 27 15:57:22 <Bugpowder>	and all the HDD makers
Dec 27 15:57:31 <bonafide>	MRVL is QCOM's direct competitor?
Dec 27 15:57:45 <Bugpowder>	not sure
Dec 27 15:58:07 <bonafide>	I've been looking for a food equity
Dec 27 15:58:12 <bonafide>	thinking ADM
Dec 27 15:58:16 <smickles>	bad idea, obama is jesus, so nothing bad will happen to usd
Dec 27 15:58:31 <bonafide>	Obama does nothing for the dollar
Dec 27 15:58:40 <bonafide>	right now its a race between USD and JPY
Dec 27 15:58:44 <bonafide>	who can devalue faster
Dec 27 15:58:58 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: buy WoT?
Dec 27 15:59:16 <kakobrekla>	wot = web of trust in here
Dec 27 15:59:26 <thestringpuller>	i know
Dec 27 15:59:30 <thestringpuller>	but buying it?
Dec 27 15:59:37 <thestringpuller>	we buy trust now?
Dec 27 15:59:44 <kakobrekla>	ya, 5btc a pop
Dec 27 15:59:53 <thestringpuller>	really?
Dec 27 16:00:05 <pigeons>	10 btc for you
Dec 27 16:00:05 <kakobrekla>	sure, 5btc will get you -10
Dec 27 16:00:12 <smickles>	thestringpuller: actually, 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe
Dec 27 16:00:13 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 27 16:00:13 <bonafide>	lol
Dec 27 16:00:27 <smickles>	send btc there, it will help the wot
Dec 27 16:00:28 <bonafide>	I'm not paying for "wot"
Dec 27 16:00:34 <bonafide>	it's not like I'm putting your money in harms way
Dec 27 16:00:55 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 27 16:00:56 <smickles>	http://blockchain.info/address/1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe
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Dec 27 16:01:19 <smickles>	it helps pay for the costs of running the wot
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Dec 27 16:01:26 <smickles>	also, dev on v2 of the protocol
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Dec 27 16:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1063 @ 0.00064 = 0.6803 BTC [+]
Dec 27 16:02:19 <Bugpowder>	actually send to 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp
Dec 27 16:02:20 *	thestringpuller throws pigeons bread crumbs
Dec 27 16:02:34 <bonafide>	welp.. that news conference
Dec 27 16:02:36 <bonafide>	was pointless
Dec 27 16:02:41 <pigeons>	pigeons actually prefer meat
Dec 27 16:02:58 <kakobrekla>	fuckin breadcrumbs again
Dec 27 16:03:19 <bonafide>	I saw something on American Greed where some guy conned multi-millions from people by pitching the ideas that pigeons would soon replace chicken
Dec 27 16:03:22 <bonafide>	lollll
Dec 27 16:03:44 *	bonafide is now known as plate
Dec 27 16:03:48 <smickles>	lol, nice con
Dec 27 16:04:09 <pigeons>	actually the native species of pigeon to north america went extinct cause it was overhunted overeaten, then when it was gone people settled for chicken
Dec 27 16:04:25 <kakobrekla>	flying rat (super powers) vs incapacitated bird (lame)
Dec 27 16:04:32 <kakobrekla>	id take pigeon.
Dec 27 16:04:56 <plate>	pigeons: so what pigeons do we have now?
Dec 27 16:05:52 <pigeons>	rock pigeon
Dec 27 16:05:58 <pigeons>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon
Dec 27 16:06:53 <pigeons>	the "pigeons" now in north america are escaped pet rock doves from europe
Dec 27 16:07:45 <plate>	they're fucking annoying
Dec 27 16:07:54 <plate>	they love mcdonalds
Dec 27 16:08:13 <pigeons>	A&P supermarket had a contest and the winner geneticly modified the hen to not have bloody meat so the jewish customers would eat it
Dec 27 16:08:19 <pigeons>	and that is what we eat today
Dec 27 16:08:44 <pigeons>	as "chicken"
Dec 27 16:08:47 <plate>	The jews always have their hands in everything
Dec 27 16:08:56 <pigeons>	jews/aliens/gays
Dec 27 16:09:08 <plate>	FUCK
Dec 27 16:09:13 <plate>	Kosher Coke is good tho
Dec 27 16:09:20 <plate>	but that's just the real formula
Dec 27 16:09:55 <plate>	nap time
Dec 27 16:11:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00064 = 7.392 BTC [+]
Dec 27 16:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064 = 4.608 BTC [+]
Dec 27 16:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00064 = 7.552 BTC [+]
Dec 27 16:15:39 <smickles>	< pigeons> jews/aliens/gays < they're all reptoids anyway :|
Dec 27 16:16:56 <pigeons>	i meant the aryans that control the greys
Dec 27 16:17:59 <pigeons>	;;google hillary clinton reptile eyes youtube
Dec 27 16:18:00 <gribble>	Hillary Clinton with Reptilian Eyes - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ve-IiOM9mM>; Hillary Clinton Reptilian Eye - On Her Official Photo! - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akcoHinOaIU>; Hillary Clinton reptilian eye on plasma TV by ljrow49 - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg_1aHJ4xEo>
Dec 27 16:18:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 175000 @ 0.00064 = 112 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 16:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00064 = 1.312 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 16:28:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 27 16:28:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41660, Best ask: 13.42967, Bid-ask spread: 0.01307, Last trade: 13.42967, 24 hour volume: 21857.94329942, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39289
Dec 27 16:30:27 <Bugpowder>	So who wants to bet on the S.MPOE dividend
Dec 27 16:30:29 <Bugpowder>	?
Dec 27 16:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35550 @ 0.00064 = 22.752 BTC [+]
Dec 27 16:30:49 <Bugpowder>	Do we know the yield on the MPOE bonds this month?
Dec 27 16:33:04 <jurov>	19%
Dec 27 16:33:12 *	jurov hides
Dec 27 16:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00064 = 16.576 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 16:36:11 <smickles>	jurov: I bet it's higher
Dec 27 16:36:38 <jurov>	so you did pull these 25% this month?
Dec 27 16:36:52 <smickles>	these?
Dec 27 16:37:19 <jurov>	i remember you making some mpbor-related threats to mircea
Dec 27 16:37:29 <kakobrekla>	oh and if anyone else is interested, kv1 is open for deposits till the 31st, 100btc min
Dec 27 16:37:33 <smickles>	lol, threats
Dec 27 16:37:40 <jurov>	:D
Dec 27 16:41:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+]
Dec 27 16:42:04 <jurov>	anyway such bonds return could cause some last-minute rush for MPBPT. would be nice.
Dec 27 16:43:05 <Bugpowder>	what do you really think the bond rate will be?
Dec 27 16:43:10 <smickles>	25%
Dec 27 16:43:50 <smickles>	well, unless the capital requirement is low this month
Dec 27 16:44:44 <smickles>	also, anyone whant to short s.mpoe?
Dec 27 16:45:06 <smickles>	;D
Dec 27 16:45:41 <thestringpuller>	it wont have shorting conditions until late january
Dec 27 16:46:14 <smickles>	thestringpuller: suppose people are buying it now expecting a large dividend, then receive next to nothing b/c the bondholders took it all
Dec 27 16:46:15 <thestringpuller>	dec will be a good month for mpoe
Dec 27 16:46:33 <thestringpuller>	what was bondholder auction?
Dec 27 16:46:45 <thestringpuller>	i though last month was 9%
Dec 27 16:46:48 <smickles>	it's not released until settlement of the options
Dec 27 16:46:58 <jurov>	and that will be in 14hours
Dec 27 16:46:59 <smickles>	yeah, last month was 9%
Dec 27 16:47:12 <thestringpuller>	mpoe only made 6% in november
Dec 27 16:47:24 <thestringpuller>	with a request of 9%
Dec 27 16:47:31 <Bugpowder>	well 110,000 contracts traded this month
Dec 27 16:47:35 <Bugpowder>	similar to Nov
Dec 27 16:48:00 <thestringpuller>	smickles: shareholders didnt get any reql dividends in nob
Dec 27 16:48:01 <smickles>	do you think there has been an increase in the amount of btc from the bondholders this month?
Dec 27 16:48:02 <thestringpuller>	nov*
Dec 27 16:48:14 <thestringpuller>	real*
Dec 27 16:48:21 <smickles>	thestringpuller: shhh, you're giving people knowledge :P
Dec 27 16:48:32 <jurov>	smickles, i seriously consider lending some s.mpoe tomorrow, will you be there?
Dec 27 16:48:53 <smickles>	jurov: you mean borrowing?
Dec 27 16:49:02 <jurov>	yes borrowing
Dec 27 16:49:23 <smickles>	about how much ?, I'm not entirely a big fish yet
Dec 27 16:49:35 <jurov>	btc 27 worth
Dec 27 16:49:59 <jurov>	;;calc 27/ 0.00064
Dec 27 16:50:00 <smickles>	I think I could do that, my terms are 0.2% per day, one interest payment minimum
Dec 27 16:50:00 <gribble>	42187.5
Dec 27 16:50:36 <jurov>	okay. we'll see tomorrow
Dec 27 16:50:41 <jurov>	*plot thickens*
Dec 27 16:50:44 <smickles>	about what time UTC?
Dec 27 16:50:50 <smickles>	I'll be sure to be on
Dec 27 16:50:51 <jurov>	any time
Dec 27 16:51:07 <jurov>	i'll be most of the day, best evening UTC
Dec 27 16:51:55 <smickles>	kk, I'm usually on at several points in the day any way, I'll make my presence known :)
Dec 27 16:52:19 <jurov>	btw, what about the dividends?
Dec 27 16:52:30 <jurov>	should i return them to you?
Dec 27 16:53:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00064 = 3.424 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 16:54:41 <jurov>	and do you want interest every day or in the end?
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Dec 27 16:56:34 <Bugpowder>	I think this means its 9.9%
Dec 27 16:56:34 <smickles>	jurov: dividends will be returned to me, payment can be at the end if you want, or in daily installments
Dec 27 16:56:35 <Bugpowder>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-november-2012-statement/
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Dec 27 16:58:22 <Bugpowder>	Price has been pretty stable, so I think MPOE is going to do very well
Dec 27 16:58:34 <Bugpowder>	I bet bondholders get the full 9.9%
Dec 27 16:58:42 <Bugpowder>	how much will be left afterwards, who knows.
Dec 27 16:59:11 <jurov>	Bugpowder, you are deducting that from MPBOR announced there? but on december 29 there will be different rate announced
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Dec 27 16:59:44 <Bugpowder>	I was talking about for the current month
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Dec 27 16:59:53 <Bugpowder>	I just didn't look hard for the info
Dec 27 16:59:55 <Bugpowder>	oops
Dec 27 17:00:00 <jurov>	but afaik bondholders list for current month is not know yet
Dec 27 17:00:08 <jurov>	neither their requested rates
Dec 27 17:00:22 <Bugpowder>	OK what does this mean then?
Dec 27 17:00:23 <Bugpowder>	MPBOR valid 30 November through 28 December: 9.9%.
Dec 27 17:01:04 <jurov>	dunno where mpbor is actually used. maybe for margin?
Dec 27 17:01:49 <jurov>	when mpex paid interest, mpbor was used as a basis
Dec 27 17:02:13 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, can you enlighten us?
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Dec 27 17:03:14 <smickles>	I know it's at least used to determin how much of the mpoebot profits go to the bondholders, and how much of their principal is returned to them if they bid too high
Dec 27 17:04:33 <jurov>	yes, but it is computed every month in the end when options expire and then not used for anything else?
Dec 27 17:06:08 <smickles>	I would venture to guess that it does influence the margin cost somehow too
Dec 27 17:06:18 <smickles>	and the B-S 'risk free rate'
Dec 27 17:06:30 <jurov>	btw, one can have a peek to 1JPvucRfu3ZzEvfBUQTJwsxMrZjeTqD6zR as to how much capital was provided by bondholders. but requested rates are between them and mircea.
Dec 27 17:07:04 <smickles>	jurov: I dunno, also, i think 'high rollers' can request a unique addy
Dec 27 17:08:00 <smickles>	clearly, i'm not a high roller, as shown by the tags sending to that addy
Dec 27 17:08:12 <jurov>	interesting.
Dec 27 17:08:24 <jurov>	haha yes blockchain.info readily identifies you there
Dec 27 17:09:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11094 @ 0.00064 = 7.1002 BTC [+]
Dec 27 17:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5932 @ 0.00064 = 3.7965 BTC [+]
Dec 27 17:11:56 <jurov>	argh, these steady trades against the wall unnerve me
Dec 27 17:13:24 <jurov>	no volatility anymore
Dec 27 17:13:58 <Bugpowder>	Buy thru to 66
Dec 27 17:14:07 <Bugpowder>	get that volatility back!
Dec 27 17:14:44 <jurov>	so i shall put another loan request on btcjam?
Dec 27 17:15:06 <Bugpowder>	Req 4800 BTC to buy thru the annoying wall
Dec 27 17:15:10 <jurov>	;;calc 7562321*0.00064
Dec 27 17:15:10 <gribble>	4839.88544
Dec 27 17:15:51 <jurov>	ic. no problem for btcjam
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Dec 27 17:19:14 <jurov>	in fact, last time i requested such loan, usagi accused me that i do it only cause i want some movement to show on the graphs
Dec 27 17:20:11 <jurov>	perhaps i wont ever forget such hilarity
Dec 27 17:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> mircea_popescu, can you enlighten us? << well it's used whenever someone wants a reference interest rate.
Dec 27 17:28:11 <mircea_popescu>	much like the euribor/libor/etc
Dec 27 17:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	and yes, all bond deposits go to the bond address so people can see what's being deposited during each month.
Dec 27 17:29:05 <mircea_popescu>	smickles they can for their own account funding, but not for bonds
Dec 27 17:29:28 <jurov>	ok. so for example i can put on btcjam "interest rate: MPBOR + 1%" and everyone will know.
Dec 27 17:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	well... most everyone :p
Dec 27 17:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	but do it anyway, gives the kids a chance to learn
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Dec 27 17:30:19 <Bugpowder>	how do you determine what bonds get accepted?
Dec 27 17:30:26 <jurov>	but if it's really going to get 25%.. that will be tough
Dec 27 17:31:26 <jurov>	Bugpowder, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745
Dec 27 17:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder all deposits over 100 btc are accepted. they only count towards a month's capital needs if they make the cut
Dec 27 17:31:55 <smickles>	jurov: you should do the rate based on what mpbor returns less the principal return
Dec 27 17:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	each month all bonds are sorted by their interest rate like in a normal auction
Dec 27 17:32:27 <Bugpowder>	and as the bids fill on the bot, more capital is accepted?
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Dec 27 17:32:44 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, more in general about mpbor : it's kinda intended as this hook for people to build stuff on. i dunno exactly what they'd build,
Dec 27 17:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	but im pretty certain it exposes something fundamental about btc macroeconomics
Dec 27 17:32:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1745 @ 0.00064 = 1.1168 BTC [+]
Dec 27 17:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the needed capital is equal to the bot's maximal exposure during the month
Dec 27 17:34:24 <Bugpowder>	short puts have infinite exposure
Dec 27 17:37:28 <smickles>	wouldn't it make sense for lenders to build upon it somehow?
Dec 27 17:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder how do you figure ?
Dec 27 17:38:29 <Bugpowder>	arent the puts valued at     (strike-current)/current
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Dec 27 17:39:00 <Bugpowder>	hence if current -> 0, puts go to infinity
Dec 27 17:39:06 <Bugpowder>	in BTC terms
Dec 27 17:40:17 <jurov>	smickles, that was Q for me? i was only half-serious, don't intend such loans atm. but we'll see
Dec 27 17:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00064 = 14.528 BTC [+]
Dec 27 17:43:58 <Bugpowder>	"MtGox’s estimated gross monthly revenue of 3-4`000 BTC stands up some months to S.MPOE’s."
Dec 27 17:44:19 <Bugpowder>	Gox makes money from both buyer and seller
Dec 27 17:44:26 <Bugpowder>	shouldnt' that be 6-8000
Dec 27 17:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya but you're not forced to account in btc terms
Dec 27 17:44:42 <mircea_popescu>	i silently insure them atm
Dec 27 17:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	in the future there'll prolly have to be something more ellaborate done about it i guess.
Dec 27 17:45:15 <smickles>	SOEBOT!
Dec 27 17:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder it's tough to estimate how much they make, cause of sliding % scales and whatnot.
Dec 27 17:45:32 <sgnb>	mircea_popescu: the "deal" mentioned in the link above is still on topic?
Dec 27 17:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	sgnb which deal you mean ?
Dec 27 17:46:13 <sgnb>	financing MPOE by lending xxx.00000888 BTC
Dec 27 17:47:12 <sgnb>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745
Dec 27 17:47:13 <jurov>	sgnb, that's exactly the bonds we're talking about all time :)
Dec 27 17:47:15 <Bugpowder>	The absolute minimum gox makes on any trade is 0.5%
Dec 27 17:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	sgnb yes, ever since thebeginning this is how the bot was financed. it's not going to go away either
Dec 27 17:47:56 <Bugpowder>	between two accounts that have volume of > half the monthly
Dec 27 17:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 321 @ 0.00355083 = 1.1398 BTC [+]
Dec 27 17:47:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00353592 = 3.5359 BTC [-]
Dec 27 17:47:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00352003 = 3.696 BTC [-]
Dec 27 17:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder iirc it goes to .3% privately.
Dec 27 17:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	.5% is what's publicly exposed
Dec 27 17:48:44 <Bugpowder>	0.25% for >500,000 BTC /mo
Dec 27 17:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	o is it ?
Dec 27 17:49:02 <Bugpowder>	https://mtgox.com/fee-schedule
Dec 27 17:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	i guess must grow moar.
Dec 27 17:49:56 <smickles>	< sgnb> mircea_popescu: the "deal" mentioned in the link above is still on topic? /me now watches 1JPvuc for a tx
Dec 27 17:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00064 = 17.76 BTC [+]
Dec 27 17:53:54 <jurov>	*shameless plug* sgnb: for investments under 100BTC, consider https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-O
Dec 27 18:12:13 <smickles>	jurov: how has that been selling?
Dec 27 18:13:14 <Bugpowder>	hmm.. 99,500	฿0.1010
Dec 27 18:13:29 <jurov>	the first discounted 50BTC sold out. the rest we're gonna fill in ourselves
Dec 27 18:13:51 <jurov>	unless thre will be some last minute action
Dec 27 18:14:45 <smickles>	jurov: do you disclose the rate you bid at?
Dec 27 18:15:38 <jurov>	we'll disclose it afterwards. but as i said at forums, we'll go somewhere very conservative like 4.8%
Dec 27 18:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	well it'll be de facto disclosed on month's end seeing how you'll be in the list
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Dec 27 18:25:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+]
Dec 27 18:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7813 @ 0.00064 = 5.0003 BTC [+]
Dec 27 18:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+]
Dec 27 18:26:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7813 @ 0.00064 = 5.0003 BTC [+]
Dec 27 18:26:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+]
Dec 27 18:27:02 <jurov>	omfg
Dec 27 18:29:18 <jurov>	what to make of such pattern
Dec 27 18:29:57 <smickles>	Is there a concise name for the MPBOR rate less the % accounted for by the principal return?
Dec 27 18:29:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00064 = 4.256 BTC [+]
Dec 27 18:30:14 <smickles>	aw, I was hoping the pattern would continue
Dec 27 18:30:40 <pigeons>	i call that rate one smickle
Dec 27 18:31:11 <jurov>	"rate one smickle"? not very concise
Dec 27 18:31:11 <smickles>	heh, I like it
Dec 27 18:31:35 <smickles>	fuck concise, it's not like that was the only criterion
Dec 27 18:32:12 <smickles>	;D
Dec 27 18:32:25 <smickles>	"the smickle rate"
Dec 27 18:32:56 <pigeons>	smicklish
Dec 27 18:33:30 <jurov>	smicklez %
Dec 27 18:36:00 <smickles>	smickle vig
Dec 27 18:36:09 <jurov>	*jig
Dec 27 18:36:14 <smickles>	jig?
Dec 27 18:36:33 <jurov>	if it will be negative, we'll say
Dec 27 18:36:40 <jurov>	smickle jig , it is up
Dec 27 18:36:49 <smickles>	lol
Dec 27 18:37:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00064 = 5.984 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 18:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]
Dec 27 18:47:31 <jurov>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlhB0UHVxS67dGpBc2Rub3FtLTdHZ3ZPb09DY2pHWlE
Dec 27 18:47:42 <jurov>	check the E column :P
Dec 27 18:47:44 <smickles>	:D
Dec 27 18:48:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 27 18:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	so i see jurov's pseudorandom number geenrator disguised as a trade bot is buying mpoe...
Dec 27 18:49:23 <pigeons>	emphasis on the psuedo
Dec 27 18:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	btw, from that link : "Utilizaţi un browser neacceptat. Este posibil ca unele funcţii să nu funcţioneze corect. Treceţi la un browser modern, cum ar fi Google Chrome."
Dec 27 18:49:41 <mircea_popescu>	you are utilizing an unacceptable browser. it's possible some functions do not function.
Dec 27 18:50:08 <pigeons>	unacceptable
Dec 27 18:50:08 <jurov>	i have no objection at all if the bot survived reboot and uses bitcoins from some parallel dimension,
Dec 27 18:52:01 <smickles>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE is boring now
Dec 27 18:52:20 <smickles>	that diffusion pattern from some time ago was much cooler
Dec 27 18:52:24 <pigeons>	agreed
Dec 27 18:53:03 <jurov>	nuff said. someone lend me 4800btc.
Dec 27 18:57:27 <smickles>	ok, mircea_popescu this close to expiry, my valuation of p130t shows a significant difference from mpoebot
Dec 27 18:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya well
Dec 27 18:57:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]
Dec 27 18:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	if i don't sell ppl complain that i r manipulating the price by not selling
Dec 27 18:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8653 @ 0.00064 = 5.5379 BTC [+]
Dec 27 19:01:18 <jurov>	oh we (at least me) isn't complaining about you. nobody could predict it will create so strong hanging carrot effect
Dec 27 19:04:17 <pigeons>	usagi knew it would
Dec 27 19:04:33 <pigeons>	so did eskimobob and ciucuicuicui
Dec 27 19:05:02 <jurov>	;;seen eskimobob
Dec 27 19:05:03 <gribble>	eskimobob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 46 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <EskimoBob> 50K ART is all gone :)
Dec 27 19:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	i've had that guy on ignore for a week or so
Dec 27 19:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	it pays.
Dec 27 19:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064 = 6.4 BTC [+]
Dec 27 19:09:39 <pigeons>	i'm about to ignore assbot if he doesn't start reporting some different prices
Dec 27 19:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	whoa check out the sell side on mpoe
Dec 27 19:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	me, alone.
Dec 27 19:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00064 = 4.832 BTC [+]
Dec 27 19:11:24 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: loan jurov 4800 btc
Dec 27 19:11:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00063994 = 1.0879 BTC [-]
Dec 27 19:11:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00063973 = 6.2694 BTC [-]
Dec 27 19:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00063946 = 1.3429 BTC [-]
Dec 27 19:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00063945 = 2.9095 BTC [-]
Dec 27 19:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00063943 = 2.8135 BTC [-]
Dec 27 19:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.00063915 = 17.5447 BTC [-]
Dec 27 19:11:52 <smickles>	lol, assbot delivers to pigeons
Dec 27 19:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 27 19:12:04 <jurov>	heh
Dec 27 19:12:05 <pigeons>	fear me
Dec 27 19:13:23 *	smickles sacrifices a ewe to the pigeons 
Dec 27 19:16:45 <jurov>	i thought i have a bug on live.coinbr.com, that trade is not visible
Dec 27 19:16:55 <jurov>	but it's just completely insignificant
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Dec 27 19:17:56 <jurov>	so much for pigeons power
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Dec 27 19:20:13 <thestringpuller>	there you go different prices
Dec 27 19:20:29 *	jurov shall add zoom level: pigeons
Dec 27 19:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00064 = 5.12 BTC [+]
Dec 27 19:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4818 @ 0.00064 = 3.0835 BTC [+]
Dec 27 19:24:58 <thestringpuller>	I wonder if people will buy out tier 3 as well @ .00067
Dec 27 19:25:15 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: the price stabilizer :P
Dec 27 19:27:45 <jurov>	eventually they will
Dec 27 19:28:11 <jurov>	and at 0.0007 whole thing will be worth 700k BTC
Dec 27 19:28:53 <jurov>	and mpoe will become bitcoin central bank
Dec 27 19:29:00 <jurov>	if it sin't already
Dec 27 19:29:15 <jcpham>	crazy
Dec 27 19:32:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00064 = 6.528 BTC [+]
Dec 27 19:32:34 <thestringpuller>	that's more BTC than pirate had
Dec 27 19:32:36 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 27 19:37:01 <thestringpuller>	I think soon there will be so much free wi-fi available, you could in theory use the internet for free.
Dec 27 19:38:04 <jurov>	thestringpuller, where do you live? it's already practice here
Dec 27 19:39:23 <jurov>	i found out they put a hotspot into public transport bus, too
Dec 27 19:39:27 <jurov>	recently
Dec 27 19:40:50 <smickles>	I hear that in places like seatle, they actually have a functioning city-wide meshnet, a sort've independant internet
Dec 27 19:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	<thestringpuller> that's more BTC than pirate had << and more "had" than pirate's, too.
Dec 27 19:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	jurov the recent sell actually is in there! http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE << little barb to the left off that price harpoon
Dec 27 19:43:53 <jurov>	yes, it shows how insignificant it is
Dec 27 19:44:01 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: when will mpex account holders have a copy of blockchain they can access via mpex and a BCCAPI server :P
Dec 27 19:44:10 <thestringpuller>	oh never? XD
Dec 27 19:44:22 <mircea_popescu>	why;'d they access the blockchain via mpex ?
Dec 27 19:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	this is like accessing your spoon via the bucket.
Dec 27 19:45:15 <thestringpuller>	aren't you planning to one day automate deposits?
Dec 27 19:45:24 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Dec 27 19:45:25 <thestringpuller>	maybe I should have started with that
Dec 27 19:45:29 <thestringpuller>	WELL I SEE HOW IT IS
Dec 27 19:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	that's actually a service people can provide themselves.
Dec 27 19:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [+]
Dec 27 19:46:05 <thestringpuller>	what happens when you have a million users
Dec 27 19:46:07 <smickles>	thestringpuller: someone with accounts can automate deposits
Dec 27 19:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	actually, iirc kakobrekla's smpake either is or is going to.
Dec 27 19:46:17 <smickles>	damn, mircea_popescu beat me to it
Dec 27 19:46:25 <jurov>	and i'm well on the way to automate mpex deposits. already get email notifications
Dec 27 19:46:33 <jurov>	too
Dec 27 19:47:07 <smickles>	we can do instant deposits too
Dec 27 19:47:19 <thestringpuller>	all deposites go to     <EditText android:id="@+id/edit_message"
Dec 27 19:47:19 <thestringpuller>	        android:layout_weight="1"
Dec 27 19:47:19 <thestringpuller>	        android:layout_width="0dp"
Dec 27 19:47:20 <thestringpuller>	        android:layout_height="wrap_content"
Dec 27 19:47:25 <thestringpuller>	wow
Dec 27 19:47:34 <thestringpuller>	my buffers are not having fun today
Dec 27 19:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	omg hax
Dec 27 19:47:48 <smickles>	say jurov has 10 spare mpexbtc, I want to deposit 10 btc, i send 10 btc to jurov he txfrs 10 mpex btc to my account
Dec 27 19:47:50 <thestringpuller>	all deposits go to 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx <<
Dec 27 19:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Dec 27 19:48:05 <thestringpuller>	yea but what if I have an mpex account
Dec 27 19:48:10 <thestringpuller>	and I want to add btc to my account
Dec 27 19:48:22 <thestringpuller>	like a lot
Dec 27 19:48:28 <thestringpuller>	say 2000 BTC and no one has it to front
Dec 27 19:48:36 <thestringpuller>	how does that get processed?
Dec 27 19:48:46 <kakobrekla>	it doesnt
Dec 27 19:48:56 <pigeons>	does PUSH work with C.BTC?
Dec 27 19:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean how ? 2k deposits happen routinely atm lol
Dec 27 19:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons yes.
Dec 27 19:49:18 <pigeons>	ok solved.
Dec 27 19:49:21 <kakobrekla>	well not via 10 spare mpexbtc
Dec 27 19:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla : milk http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135571472587.jpg
Dec 27 19:49:41 <kakobrekla>	yummy
Dec 27 19:50:02 <kakobrekla>	imma gonna use this one
Dec 27 19:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	or it could be shampoo
Dec 27 19:50:24 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, FAQ says PUSH works for excluding cash
Dec 27 19:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yeah. it speaks lies.
Dec 27 19:50:44 <smickles>	thestringpuller: if you have an mpex account, you can deposit any amount you want
Dec 27 19:51:08 <thestringpuller>	but it's not automated
Dec 27 19:51:08 <thestringpuller>	as in 6 confirms
Dec 27 19:51:15 <smickles>	how does it get processed? manual confirmation
Dec 27 19:51:42 <thestringpuller>	i'm just splitting hairs
Dec 27 19:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	jurov fixed now.
Dec 27 19:51:58 <smickles>	a trained ape sees the tx, evaluates it, and flips a few bits on a hd
Dec 27 19:52:12 <smickles>	;D
Dec 27 19:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller you know, if you deposit 500 mn in 1mn bearer certificates in your bank account
Dec 27 19:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	ITS NOT GOING TO BE AUTOMATED EITHER.
Dec 27 19:52:40 <thestringpuller>	I was heckling you! I'm sorry.
Dec 27 19:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	automation and risk management are pretty much contrarian
Dec 27 19:52:55 <pigeons>	plus its pretty darn quick in practice, and its not like mircea_popescu is busy doing anything else if you wanna just bug him to process your deposit
Dec 27 19:53:05 <jurov>	haha, i could have been offering quick deposit service already, if i had the audacity to ask why faq says so
Dec 27 19:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	i am so doing anything else!
Dec 27 19:53:15 <thestringpuller>	waaaah i don't want to pay 20 btc for an account so I can slap around .05 btc on options
Dec 27 19:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	like girls and stuff.
Dec 27 19:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ikr ? kakobrekla asked.
Dec 27 19:53:35 <pigeons>	he would welcome the excuse to get out of whatever else he is engaged in to process deposits
Dec 27 19:53:38 <smickles>	kakobrekla: didn't we already do a quick deposit b/t each other?
Dec 27 19:53:57 <kakobrekla>	wha?
Dec 27 19:54:06 <smickles>	it was me and someone, idk
Dec 27 19:54:28 <kakobrekla>	deposit to where?
Dec 27 19:54:33 <kakobrekla>	perhaps glbse back in the day
Dec 27 19:54:34 <smickles>	I needed liek 10 btc on mpex quick, someone obliged
Dec 27 19:54:40 <smickles>	when mircea_popescu was asleep
Dec 27 19:54:44 <kakobrekla>	funny how i can say that after a month or so
Dec 27 19:54:50 <kakobrekla>	'back in the day'
Dec 27 19:55:12 <kakobrekla>	no i dont think so
Dec 27 19:55:17 <kakobrekla>	i did glbse manually
Dec 27 19:55:23 <jurov>	it just never occurred to me to test push with cxbtc
Dec 27 19:55:28 <kakobrekla>	smpake does only gox for now
Dec 27 19:55:40 <kakobrekla>	it was written in smpake thread
Dec 27 19:55:45 <kakobrekla>	cxbtc will be supported as well
Dec 27 19:55:47 <smickles>	 /g 17
Dec 27 19:55:49 <smickles>	er
Dec 27 19:55:54 <thestringpuller>	what's smpake?
Dec 27 19:55:57 <kakobrekla>	but then i figured i should better recode first
Dec 27 19:56:18 <thestringpuller>	oh i see
Dec 27 19:56:25 <kakobrekla>	thestringpuller smpake.com
Dec 27 19:56:27 <jurov>	OK, you can ask me as well to do it anytime, for amounts < 15BTC atm.
Dec 27 19:56:47 <jurov>	user interface on coinbr will follow soon
Dec 27 19:57:07 <kakobrekla>	well there you go
Dec 27 19:57:14 <thestringpuller>	i see kakobrekla i've used it before lol
Dec 27 19:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	cool stuff
Dec 27 19:57:18 <thestringpuller>	so I should know what it is
Dec 27 19:57:38 <smickles>	jurov: is there a fee?
Dec 27 19:57:39 <thestringpuller>	what's cxbtc?
Dec 27 19:57:52 <pigeons>	C.BTC
Dec 27 19:57:53 <smickles>	thestringpuller: it's how mpex displays your btc balance
Dec 27 19:58:22 <jurov>	smickles: no fee this year
Dec 27 19:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	no fee for you! come back, one year!
Dec 27 19:58:52 <smickles>	"this year", he says. crackin' wise, this guy
Dec 27 19:59:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00064 = 8.384 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 20:04:23 <smickles>	jurov: let's test it!
Dec 27 20:04:53 <jurov>	yes?
Dec 27 20:05:01 <smickles>	send me 10 btc
Dec 27 20:05:08 <smickles>	;;ident
Dec 27 20:05:08 <gribble>	You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
Dec 27 20:05:17 <smickles>	96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F
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Dec 27 20:07:02 <jurov>	no, you send me 10btc
Dec 27 20:07:10 <jurov>	[02:06] <gribble> Error: Problem creating encrypted OTP file. :(
Dec 27 20:07:48 <smickles>	well, I wanted to get 10 more btc onto mpex, not 10 less
Dec 27 20:08:19 <jurov>	i'm confused. you want to fund or withdraw?
Dec 27 20:08:35 <smickles>	fund
Dec 27 20:10:26 <smickles>	;;calc 1.002**((1/24)/365)
Dec 27 20:10:26 <gribble>	1.00000022808
Dec 27 20:10:41 <jurov>	In order to make this deposit please send to the exchange address ( 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx ) the sum of 10.00296524 BTC exactly. Your transaction will be manually approved, so please allow up to 48 hours for funds to show up in your account.
Dec 27 20:11:18 <jurov>	smickles, when i see the tx, i'll push the C.BTC to 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F
Dec 27 20:12:05 <smickles>	sent
Dec 27 20:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is odd
Dec 27 20:13:27 <smickles>	jurov: though, when you automate it, the client should send 10 btc to you, and you send the 10.XX btc to 1Fx
Dec 27 20:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00064 = 14.624 BTC [+]
Dec 27 20:17:08 <jurov>	push done
Dec 27 20:17:14 <smickles>	received
Dec 27 20:17:21 <smickles>	;;rated jurov
Dec 27 20:17:21 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user jurov
Dec 27 20:17:27 <smickles>	;;rate jurov 1
Dec 27 20:17:29 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jurov has been recorded.
Dec 27 20:17:40 <jurov>	i can't auth with gribble
Dec 27 20:17:54 <smickles>	i'll verify your identity later
Dec 27 20:18:11 <mircea_popescu>	my question is, why do things this way ?
Dec 27 20:19:37 <smickles>	for when your trained ape is offline
Dec 27 20:19:37 <jurov>	it's supposed to be faster
Dec 27 20:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	but... if you send the btc to mpex's address it still waits on mpex ?
Dec 27 20:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't that defeat the entire purpose ?
Dec 27 20:20:32 <jurov>	smickles does not have to wait on mpex
Dec 27 20:20:41 <jurov>	only i have to, but i don't mind
Dec 27 20:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	i guess that's a point.
Dec 27 20:21:19 <jurov>	cause i must have some reserve on mpex anyway
Dec 27 20:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the way push is structured there's nothing to prevent a lot of further development here. i imagine one next step is a loans secured by shares business
Dec 27 20:22:29 <jurov>	smickles: and i prefer users to directly deposit to mpex cause of faster turnover
Dec 27 20:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	and in the end i guess mpex accounts will look a lot more like banks than anything
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Dec 27 20:28:58 <jurov>	<rant>maybe they will look like bank when balance+all pending transactions will be consistent at all times</rant>
Dec 27 20:30:29 <jurov>	all *shown* pending transactions, i mean
Dec 27 20:30:54 <smickles>	check out the spread on P130T
Dec 27 20:32:14 <jurov>	serious scalping opportunity, i say
Dec 27 20:33:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00064 = 1.984 BTC [+]
Dec 27 20:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	buy 7 sell 8 satoshi ?
Dec 27 20:36:28 <jurov>	smickles is testing teh bot
Dec 27 20:37:04 <smickles>	clearly, it's an int division issue
Dec 27 20:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064 = 1.056 BTC [+]
Dec 27 20:38:59 <smickles>	srsly, mircea_popescu you need me to add this 15 satoshi of liquidity
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Dec 27 20:42:48 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 27 20:42:49 <gribble>	13.32
Dec 27 20:46:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.00000008 BTC [-]
Dec 27 20:47:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00064 = 3.264 BTC [+]
Dec 27 20:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	i sure do!
Dec 27 20:50:30 <smickles>	how about that
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Dec 27 21:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
Dec 27 21:20:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00064 = 1.088 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 21:23:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00064 = 6.592 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 21:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7954 @ 0.00064 = 5.0906 BTC [+]
Dec 27 21:53:55 <smickles>	;;tslb
Dec 27 21:53:57 <gribble>	Time since last block: 24 minutes and 43 seconds
Dec 27 22:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00064 = 6.656 BTC [+]
Dec 27 22:01:40 <smickles>	;;bc,stats
Dec 27 22:01:43 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 213943 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 1768 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 14 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3347057.04349520 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.3310481711
Dec 27 22:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12183 @ 0.00064 = 7.7971 BTC [+]
Dec 27 22:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00064 = 6.56 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 22:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00064 = 8 BTC [+]
Dec 27 22:12:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00064 = 15.104 BTC [+]
Dec 27 22:13:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064 = 4.608 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 22:15:25 <smickles>	;;rated kakobrekla
Dec 27 22:15:25 <gribble>	You rated user kakobrekla on Thu Oct 11 11:36:14 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: facilitated a short term loan.
Dec 27 22:16:04 <smickles>	;;rate kakobrekla 1 facilitated a short term loan, smpake.com is awesome. use it.
Dec 27 22:16:06 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 1 to 1.
Dec 27 22:16:24 <jcpham>	 the
Dec 27 22:17:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00064 = 2.656 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 22:17:56 <pigeons>	commission for the previous 2 users goes to jcpham
Dec 27 22:18:19 <jcpham>	rofl
Dec 27 22:19:43 <smickles>	heh, I was an early user of smpake, this was just the first significant use
Dec 27 22:20:36 <kakobrekla>	i havent touched it in too long.
Dec 27 22:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00064 = 0.448 BTC [+]
Dec 27 22:20:54 <pigeons>	i touch it every day
Dec 27 22:21:06 <kakobrekla>	;>
Dec 27 22:23:26 <fulluser>	hi
Dec 27 22:23:38 <fulluser>	this thing works like Forex
Dec 27 22:23:55 <fulluser>	or people actually hold shares for a long time
Dec 27 22:24:02 <kakobrekla>	what is this thing
Dec 27 22:24:08 <fulluser>	im new to this
Dec 27 22:24:22 <fulluser>	if you could explain it briefly
Dec 27 22:24:38 <fulluser>	works  abosolutely like real stocks ?
Dec 27 22:25:08 <kakobrekla>	you mean mpex? yeah just like real stock. the glbse stock are completley virtual tho.
Dec 27 22:25:53 <fulluser>	you get live quotes like FX
Dec 27 22:26:19 <fulluser>	they change every 5 minutes or so like real world stocks
Dec 27 22:26:31 <kakobrekla>	are you a forex user?
Dec 27 22:26:32 <fulluser>	or people use to hold em
Dec 27 22:26:34 <fulluser>	yes
Dec 27 22:26:38 <kakobrekla>	oh well
Dec 27 22:26:45 <kakobrekla>	then you must check bit4x.com
Dec 27 22:27:08 <fulluser>	really
Dec 27 22:27:16 <fulluser>	can believe its real !
Dec 27 22:27:31 <fulluser>	and BTC varies way more than any coin
Dec 27 22:27:33 <fulluser>	!!
Dec 27 22:27:45 <fulluser>	has longer spreads ?
Dec 27 22:27:48 <kakobrekla>	you cant trade btc pair on forex, you can trade forex with btc
Dec 27 22:28:01 <kakobrekla>	profit and losses are btc
Dec 27 22:28:01 <fulluser>	oh well
Dec 27 22:28:06 <kakobrekla>	not euro dollar whatever
Dec 27 22:28:33 <fulluser>	i trade BTCUSD or EURUSD
Dec 27 22:28:37 <fulluser>	?
Dec 27 22:28:42 <kakobrekla>	eurusd
Dec 27 22:28:44 <kakobrekla>	in btc
Dec 27 22:29:04 <fulluser>	worth trying thanks
Dec 27 22:29:14 <fulluser>	way to advertise the site
Dec 27 22:29:17 <fulluser>	Lol
Dec 27 22:29:23 <fulluser>	;)
Dec 27 22:29:42 <kakobrekla>	well i thought you might find it useful since you mentined forex
Dec 27 22:29:57 <fulluser>	any restrictions on the bonus
Dec 27 22:30:04 <kakobrekla>	i could put it in the topic
Dec 27 22:30:04 <fulluser>	and yes you were right
Dec 27 22:30:09 <kakobrekla>	but nobody reads that
Dec 27 22:30:37 <kakobrekla>	faq: Am I eligible for the 5 BTC bonus?
Dec 27 22:30:37 <kakobrekla>	When you open a Live account a 5 BTC bonus will be awarded to your balance. In order to withdraw the bonus, one must have have closed at least 5 trades on the Live account.
Dec 27 22:30:48 <fulluser>	can you open me an account
Dec 27 22:31:04 <fulluser>	or mail is automated ?
Dec 27 22:31:06 <kakobrekla>	sure, send me an email as it says on the site
Dec 27 22:31:10 <kakobrekla>	its not automated
Dec 27 22:31:13 <kakobrekla>	but its the procedure
Dec 27 22:31:50 <kakobrekla>	if you send me the info now ill reply you with a deposit addy
Dec 27 22:32:12 <fulluser>	okay
Dec 27 22:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00064 = 7.2 BTC [+]
Dec 27 22:32:22 <kakobrekla>	if you can deposit today youll get an account on monday
Dec 27 22:32:24 <kakobrekla>	or so
Dec 27 22:32:25 <fulluser>	where i can grab gpg for windows
Dec 27 22:32:42 <kakobrekla>	http://www.gnupg.org/related_software/gpa/index.en.html
Dec 27 22:32:46 <smickles>	;;google gpg4win
Dec 27 22:32:46 <gribble>	Gpg4win - Secure email and file encryption with GnuPG for Windows: <http://www.gpg4win.org/>; Gpg4win - Download Gpg4win: <http://www.gpg4win.org/download.html>; Gpg4win - About Gpg4win: <http://www.gpg4win.org/about.html>
Dec 27 22:32:50 <fulluser>	okay
Dec 27 22:33:26 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Dec 27 22:33:30 <kakobrekla>	best to sign it
Dec 27 22:33:34 <kakobrekla>	if you can be bothered
Dec 27 22:33:47 *	smickles market making teh options since '12
Dec 27 22:34:15 <fulluser>	better to not
Dec 27 22:34:27 <fulluser>	not a  bitcoin adv user
Dec 27 22:35:44 <smickles>	kakobrekla: checkit, i'm blowing the socks off the mpoebot's prices on the 13,14 strikes
Dec 27 22:36:18 <kakobrekla>	smickles url?
Dec 27 22:37:04 <Ukto>	>,>
Dec 27 22:37:11 <kakobrekla>	fulluser, you didnt sign the email
Dec 27 22:37:28 <kakobrekla>	fulluser id you want your key id in your contract do that now
Dec 27 22:37:29 <smickles>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P130T
Dec 27 22:37:29 <smickles>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C130T
Dec 27 22:37:29 <smickles>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P140T
Dec 27 22:37:30 <smickles>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C140T
Dec 27 22:37:35 <kakobrekla>	else ill do it w/o
Dec 27 22:37:48 <kakobrekla>	aaa
Dec 27 22:38:09 <kakobrekla>	not to shabby ;)
Dec 27 22:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00064 = 10.88 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 22:38:50 <smickles>	yeah, a little more bug testing, then I'll throw some btc at it, then later, I might seek funding for it too
Dec 27 22:39:46 <smickles>	;;ticker
Dec 27 22:39:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42174, Best ask: 13.43787, Bid-ask spread: 0.01613, Last trade: 13.60000, 24 hour volume: 19062.67342392, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.38236
Dec 27 22:40:00 <smickles>	we just hit 13.6 eh?
Dec 27 22:40:07 <kakobrekla>	again.
Dec 27 22:40:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7875 @ 0.00064 = 5.04 BTC [+]
Dec 27 22:40:33 <smickles>	lol, i just realized you could say that to any # up to 30ish
Dec 27 22:40:50 <kakobrekla>	yep
Dec 27 22:40:52 <kakobrekla>	:)
Dec 27 22:41:07 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 27 22:41:08 <gribble>	13.32
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Dec 27 22:43:40 <fulluser20>	hi
Dec 27 22:43:56 <fulluser20>	sent you the mail (bit4x owner)
Dec 27 22:44:12 <kakobrekla>	04:37.11 ( kakobrekla ) fulluser, you didnt sign the email
Dec 27 22:44:12 <kakobrekla>	04:37.28 ( kakobrekla ) fulluser id you want your key id in your contract do that now
Dec 27 22:44:26 <kakobrekla>	yeah lets do this via pm
Dec 27 22:50:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3385 @ 0.00064 = 2.1664 BTC [+]
Dec 27 23:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064 = 5.312 BTC [+]
Dec 27 23:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	smickles you know it doesn't price on the last day right ?
Dec 27 23:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00064 = 6.848 BTC [+]
Dec 27 23:20:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13116 @ 0.00064 = 8.3942 BTC [+]
Dec 27 23:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064 = 6.016 BTC [+]
Dec 27 23:24:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00064 = 8.128 BTC [+]
Dec 27 23:25:15 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yes, that's why i'm rockin' yo socks yo!
Dec 27 23:25:25 <smickles>	it was a joke :P
Dec 27 23:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Dec 27 23:26:04 <smickles>	anyway, with the currently limited funds, i've expanded to the 12 to 15 range of strikes :D
Dec 27 23:29:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00064 = 9.216 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 23:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9867 @ 0.00064 = 6.3149 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 23:38:10 <fulluser20>	keyserver for mpex
Dec 27 23:38:13 <fulluser20>	?
Dec 27 23:38:36 <mircea_popescu>	fulluser20 what do you mean ?
Dec 27 23:39:05 <fulluser20>	>gpg --search-keys "F1B69921"
Dec 27 23:39:10 <fulluser20>	(mpex key
Dec 27 23:39:21 <fulluser20>	no leyservers known
Dec 27 23:39:25 <fulluser20>	keyserver
Dec 27 23:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Dec 27 23:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#8
Dec 27 23:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	see that
Dec 27 23:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Dec 27 23:42:56 <smickles>	ok, assuming there are no more bugs, I've got a decent amount of optimization to do
Dec 27 23:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 27 23:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00064 = 5.888 BTC [+]
Dec 27 23:44:50 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 27 23:44:51 <gribble>	13.33
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Dec 27 23:48:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00064 = 2.8346 BTC [+]
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Dec 27 23:53:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00064 = 3.52 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 00:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3171 @ 0.00064 = 2.0294 BTC [+]
Dec 28 00:14:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29402 @ 0.00064 = 18.8173 BTC [+]
Dec 28 00:30:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2091 @ 0.00351365 = 7.347 BTC [-]
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Dec 28 00:38:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00064 = 9.44 BTC [+]
Dec 28 00:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00064 = 7.616 BTC [+]
Dec 28 01:06:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00064 = 4.288 BTC [+]
Dec 28 01:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00064 = 4.768 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 01:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6162 @ 0.00064 = 3.9437 BTC [+]
Dec 28 01:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00064 = 1.088 BTC [+]
Dec 28 01:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4568 @ 0.00064 = 2.9235 BTC [+]
Dec 28 02:02:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00064 = 6.304 BTC [+]
Dec 28 02:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00064 = 6.048 BTC [+]
Dec 28 02:12:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5073 @ 0.00064 = 3.2467 BTC [+]
Dec 28 02:14:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00064 = 4.768 BTC [+]
Dec 28 02:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6456 @ 0.00064 = 4.1318 BTC [+]
Dec 28 02:27:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9764 @ 0.00064 = 6.249 BTC [+]
Dec 28 02:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3834 @ 0.00064 = 2.4538 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 02:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00064 = 9.088 BTC [+]
Dec 28 03:04:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.00064 = 9.248 BTC [+]
Dec 28 03:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00064 = 2.944 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 03:24:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11062 @ 0.00064 = 7.0797 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 03:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00064 = 6.08 BTC [+]
Dec 28 03:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064 = 5.312 BTC [+]
Dec 28 03:46:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4316 @ 0.00064 = 2.7622 BTC [+]
Dec 28 03:58:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13706 @ 0.00064 = 8.7718 BTC [+]
Dec 28 04:00:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00064 = 3.84 BTC [+]
Dec 28 04:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00064 = 8.192 BTC [+]
Dec 28 04:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00064 = 6.24 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 04:46:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12968 @ 0.00064 = 8.2995 BTC [+]
Dec 28 04:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00064 = 4.352 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 05:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24492 @ 0.00064 = 15.6749 BTC [+]
Dec 28 05:22:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00064 = 5.632 BTC [+]
Dec 28 05:26:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1411 @ 0.00349579 = 4.9326 BTC [-]
Dec 28 05:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 230 @ 0.00345868 = 0.7955 BTC [-]
Dec 28 05:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4938 @ 0.00064 = 3.1603 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 05:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00064 = 11.2 BTC [+]
Dec 28 06:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1660 @ 0.00064 = 1.0624 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 06:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00064 = 3.104 BTC [+]
Dec 28 06:25:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32611 @ 0.00064 = 20.871 BTC [+]
Dec 28 06:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48000 @ 0.00064 = 30.72 BTC [+]
Dec 28 06:37:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00064 = 5.28 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 06:40:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 06:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3210 @ 0.00064 = 2.0544 BTC [+]
Dec 28 06:51:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2405 @ 0.00064 = 1.5392 BTC [+]
Dec 28 07:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1285 @ 0.00064 = 0.8224 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 07:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	hm, are anyone else's intertubes all bolloxed up ?
Dec 28 07:31:01 <Bugpowder>	you settlements are all bolloxed up
Dec 28 07:31:09 <Bugpowder>	I can send details
Dec 28 07:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	please do
Dec 28 07:37:26 <Bugpowder>	check the office@polimedia email.
Dec 28 07:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	ye on it.
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Dec 28 07:53:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6635 @ 0.00064 = 4.2464 BTC [+]
Dec 28 08:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10987 @ 0.00064 = 7.0317 BTC [+]
Dec 28 08:05:26 <EskimoBob>	looks like first ASIC chips have arrived https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91173.msg1422891#msg1422891
Dec 28 08:11:47 <Bugpowder>	how many are the putting in one device?
Dec 28 08:11:54 <Bugpowder>	300MH/chip?
Dec 28 08:16:04 <Bugpowder>	Whales are back betting on S.DICE again
Dec 28 08:16:07 <JWU42>	BFL is going to be sending me money very soon
Dec 28 08:16:18 <JWU42>	might eb cancelling
Dec 28 08:16:19 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE up another 1000 BTC this morning.
Dec 28 08:16:38 <JWU42>	looking at Dooglus post?
Dec 28 08:16:41 <Bugpowder>	no
Dec 28 08:16:45 <Bugpowder>	my own analysis
Dec 28 08:16:48 <JWU42>	ahh
Dec 28 08:17:00 <JWU42>	oh yeah - you post in that thread as well
Dec 28 08:17:15 <Bugpowder>	I only consider bets over 10BTC
Dec 28 08:17:20 <Bugpowder>	since the last dooglas post
Dec 28 08:17:39 <JWU42>	with 250 BTC bets things can move quickly
Dec 28 08:17:56 <Bugpowder>	I think S.DICE is now >18,000 profit this month
Dec 28 08:18:29 <Bugpowder>	http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Dec 28 08:19:06 <EskimoBob>	is pirateat40 one of those whales? Scrubbing the stolen coins clean :)
Dec 28 08:19:14 <Bugpowder>	hah
Dec 28 08:19:21 <Bugpowder>	I don't think S.DICE mixes
Dec 28 08:19:34 <Bugpowder>	but I don't know much
Dec 28 08:19:37 <Bugpowder>	about that stuff
Dec 28 08:19:47 <JWU42>	I use Gox for that
Dec 28 08:20:02 <JWU42>	not mixing but atleast losing some identity
Dec 28 08:20:16 <JWU42>	when i feel the need
Dec 28 08:20:56 <Bugpowder>	the need for speed
Dec 28 08:21:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00064 = 15.232 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 08:22:57 <JWU42>	way to go Goose
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Dec 28 08:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26956 @ 0.00064 = 17.2518 BTC [+]
Dec 28 08:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	re sdice and mixing
Dec 28 08:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	wouldn't the fact that they always repay to the address that sent make it impossible to use as a mixer ?
Dec 28 08:39:50 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, what exact identity is lost ?
Dec 28 08:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	if anything, it would degrade anonimity i imagine.
Dec 28 08:41:00 <Bugpowder>	yes
Dec 28 08:41:05 <Bugpowder>	that is my understanding
Dec 28 08:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	well so then wtf people keep going "o, it's used for mixing" as if it's some arcana they know about
Dec 28 08:44:16 <mircea_popescu>	fucking hell i need to stop listening to people.
Dec 28 08:49:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
Dec 28 08:52:17 <EskimoBob>	I have no idea how this s.dic works but if you send stinky coins, do you get back your stinky ones + what you win or do you get it all in "clean" coins?
Dec 28 08:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	btw jurov i always meant to ask, what's the br in coinbr stand for ? brazil ?
Dec 28 08:53:34 <pigeons>	well the coins you get back come from sdice, so there is at least that link
Dec 28 08:53:43 <pigeons>	BRoker
Dec 28 08:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	o
Dec 28 08:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	why not cnbroker lol
Dec 28 08:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons what i mean is, sdice does not sever the link. sure it varies the amt.
Dec 28 08:56:54 <pigeons>	i agree
Dec 28 08:57:32 <pigeons>	easy to agree with facts
Dec 28 08:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	ianae, but i imagine the only way to correctly mix is to use a single inbound address.
Dec 28 08:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	that pretty much makes all outbound coins "virgin"
Dec 28 08:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	in the same sense if not exactly in the same way as freshly minted coins
Dec 28 08:58:58 <EskimoBob>	running a mining pool is probably what you need to start
Dec 28 08:59:23 <pigeons>	i'll let you lousy criminals speculate
Dec 28 08:59:29 <EskimoBob>	:)
Dec 28 09:00:41 <EskimoBob>	I am no criminal, he is
Dec 28 09:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00064 = 3.424 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 09:07:46 <pigeons>	laundering that porn money
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Dec 28 09:09:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135670319079.jpg
Dec 28 09:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	she begs to differ.
Dec 28 09:12:17 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: fuck of with this pr0n site spam.
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Dec 28 09:15:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 09:49:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00064 = 7.712 BTC [+]
Dec 28 09:52:12 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: mircea_popescu has had you on ignore for months
Dec 28 09:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35694 @ 0.00064 = 22.8442 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 09:58:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12754 @ 0.00064 = 8.1626 BTC [+]
Dec 28 09:58:33 <EskimoBob>	not really, he pretends, that I am on his list. He has answered questions etc :)
Dec 28 10:00:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11485 @ 0.00064 = 7.3504 BTC [+]
Dec 28 10:05:59 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: the bully
Dec 28 10:06:44 <thestringpuller>	who will indirectly cost me 20 btc because he will drive usagi to suicide
Dec 28 10:06:58 <pigeons>	net win
Dec 28 10:08:13 <thestringpuller>	:(
Dec 28 10:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00064 = 15.616 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 10:21:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00064 = 6.912 BTC [+]
Dec 28 10:24:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00064 = 7.424 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 10:50:39 <Bugpowder>	heavy betting continues on S.DICE
Dec 28 10:51:03 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE lead down to 600 BTC on the morning
Dec 28 10:51:41 <thestringpuller>	whats the bet count?
Dec 28 10:52:19 <Bugpowder>	actually up 600 in last 32 hours
Dec 28 10:52:54 <Bugpowder>	bet count of 11,000 since 12-27-12 7:00
Dec 28 10:54:30 <thestringpuller>	looks like your speculation is proving right Dr. Bugpowder
Dec 28 10:54:38 <thestringpuller>	its Dr. right?
Dec 28 10:57:15 <Bugpowder>	yup
Dec 28 10:58:33 <thestringpuller>	so Dr. Bugpowder what are you gonna do with your bonus paid for by the ghost of satoshi?
Dec 28 10:59:20 <Bugpowder>	SPLIT 14 strike options and sell them short
Dec 28 11:01:49 <thestringpuller>	you think the price will hit 14 this month?
Dec 28 11:05:03 <Bugpowder>	who knows
Dec 28 11:05:28 <Bugpowder>	I care what it does next month
Dec 28 11:05:45 <Bugpowder>	and what range it does or does not stay within
Dec 28 11:06:01 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 11:06:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45011, Best ask: 13.48408, Bid-ask spread: 0.03397, Last trade: 13.45011, 24 hour volume: 20887.52776928, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.39768
Dec 28 11:06:29 <thestringpuller>	it will likely close no greater than 13.50 tonight
Dec 28 11:06:44 <thestringpuller>	a whale may come in and adjust the price thougb
Dec 28 11:08:07 <Bugpowder>	well as long as it stays between 11 and 17, I made money on options selling this month
Dec 28 11:08:26 <thestringpuller>	thats a wide position
Dec 28 11:08:32 <thestringpuller>	thats what she said
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Dec 28 11:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00064 = 6.08 BTC [+]
Dec 28 11:17:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11805 @ 0.00064 = 7.5552 BTC [+]
Dec 28 11:19:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00064 = 6.976 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 11:28:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00064 = 2.144 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 11:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00064 = 7.744 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 11:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00064 = 8.512 BTC [+]
Dec 28 12:00:48 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133700.0
Dec 28 12:00:49 <kakobrekla>	hmm
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Dec 28 12:04:16 <pigeons>	;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133702.0;topicseen
Dec 28 12:04:17 <gribble>	What is the difference between MtGox and Dwalla?
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Dec 28 12:15:04 <thestringpuller>	pigeons is what you said about pigeons true?
Dec 28 12:20:59 <pigeons>	close enough i reckon
Dec 28 12:21:03 <pigeons>	which thing?
Dec 28 12:22:04 <thestringpuller>	about the original pigeons being extinct
Dec 28 12:22:08 <pigeons>	yeah
Dec 28 12:22:12 <thestringpuller>	and the ones we find and citys and parks now are escaped pets
Dec 28 12:22:15 <thestringpuller>	that shit is nuts
Dec 28 12:22:22 <thestringpuller>	like some conspiracy shit
Dec 28 12:22:42 <thestringpuller>	I have an interesting idea for an offering but I will need to periodically perform reverse splits.
Dec 28 12:22:45 <thestringpuller>	(i.e. 1000 shares reverse split to 990 shares).  Do any exchanges support share splits?
Dec 28 12:22:48 <thestringpuller>	><
Dec 28 12:22:56 <thestringpuller>	stupid text wall
Dec 28 12:23:16 <pigeons>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon
Dec 28 12:23:41 <pigeons>	these are the ones you see now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Dove
Dec 28 12:23:52 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 28 12:23:53 <gribble>	13.34
Dec 28 12:24:49 <thestringpuller>	whoa
Dec 28 12:25:03 <thestringpuller>	ugh stupid option key
Dec 28 12:25:08 <smickles>	thestringpuller: probably not programatically, but I'm sure most, if run by good people, would do it manually
Dec 28 12:25:43 <pigeons>	oh good people, this is bitcoin
Dec 28 12:26:04 <smickles>	oh, thestringpuller you were quoting :|
Dec 28 12:26:08 <thestringpuller>	that was a post
Dec 28 12:26:09 <thestringpuller>	yea quote
Dec 28 12:26:11 <thestringpuller>	i'm on a ma
Dec 28 12:26:12 <thestringpuller>	mac
Dec 28 12:26:18 <thestringpuller>	I'm having trouble
Dec 28 12:26:44 <pigeons>	yeah they don't right-click either, i didnt know thye had problems with quote marks too
Dec 28 12:27:11 <thestringpuller>	they have trouble with giving me any keys other than apple button or options
Dec 28 12:27:11 <smickles>	so it turns out, you can't use gmail to send thousands of emails per day to yourself
Dec 28 12:27:15 <thestringpuller>	option*
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Dec 28 12:33:42 <smickles>	"arg parser!" sometimes escapes my mouth in place of "aw, FUCK!"
Dec 28 12:41:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3175 @ 0.00064 = 2.032 BTC [+]
Dec 28 12:44:43 <thestringpuller>	smickles: are you writing Python REPL's?
Dec 28 12:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00064 = 2.048 BTC [+]
Dec 28 12:45:44 <jcpham>	http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/28/policy-implications-of-capital-biased-technology-opening-remarks/
Dec 28 12:51:08 <smickles>	buy my puts :D
Dec 28 12:55:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33288 @ 0.00064 = 21.3043 BTC [+]
Dec 28 12:58:14 <smickles>	jcpham: so, because people are rightly trying to avoid the higher form taxes, the people who plan to be depandant on that specific sort of tax revenue are boned?
Dec 28 12:58:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00064 = 2.304 BTC [+]
Dec 28 12:58:34 <jcpham>	something like that is what i read
Dec 28 12:58:42 <jcpham>	that crazy krugman
Dec 28 12:58:52 <pigeons>	give him another nobel prize
Dec 28 12:59:11 <smickles>	nobel prized a perfect,
Dec 28 12:59:17 <smickles>	I love Obama's
Dec 28 12:59:54 <pigeons>	obama's was the peace prize for drone attacks, afghanistan and iraq?
Dec 28 13:01:13 <jcpham>	obama won a nobel prize?
Dec 28 13:01:23 <smickles>	yup, a for peace
Dec 28 13:01:25 <jcpham>	are you making that up?
Dec 28 13:01:29 <smickles>	no
Dec 28 13:01:35 <jcpham>	smh
Dec 28 13:01:54 <Bugpowder>	lol
Dec 28 13:02:03 <smickles>	and he got it after ordering things which resulted in innocent deaths
Dec 28 13:02:07 <jcpham>	if he gets one everyone else gets 100
Dec 28 13:02:13 <jcpham>	nobel prizes
Dec 28 13:02:38 <smickles>	and then went on to doing drone strikes which ended up killing children
Dec 28 13:02:55 <smickles>	and then pretending to cry about the deaths of children which he didn't cause
Dec 28 13:03:04 <jcpham>	pretty lame president if you don't kill somebody
Dec 28 13:03:49 <smickles>	and trying, maybe succeding to make it legal to kidnap and kill citizens w/o cause, documentation, trial, etc...
Dec 28 13:03:58 <smickles>	it's one sweet peace prize
Dec 28 13:04:42 <jcpham>	you must think you have rights or something
Dec 28 13:05:05 <jcpham>	authoritarian regimes never allow citizens to affect change
Dec 28 13:05:05 <smickles>	I'm just an uppity slave :p
Dec 28 13:05:23 <jcpham>	make sure to encrypt those emails kids
Dec 28 13:06:58 <smickles>	I don't even have a proper job, I'm not a good slave at all :/
Dec 28 13:08:32 <smickles>	but i suppose my wife being active duty makes up for my working for myself, rather than someone else
Dec 28 13:09:48 <thestringpuller>	smickles obeys the law though
Dec 28 13:15:24 <smickles>	yeah, I don't want to get in trouble :|
Dec 28 13:16:02 <smickles>	if the law gets too out of hand, i'll try to move somewhere else first
Dec 28 13:16:26 <smickles>	kinda like the 'vote with you dollar' concept
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Dec 28 13:26:02 <thestringpuller>	thats too smooth
Dec 28 13:26:21 <thestringpuller>	if it gets too outta hand
Dec 28 13:26:25 <thestringpuller>	just leave heh
Dec 28 13:30:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9799 @ 0.00064 = 6.2714 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 13:33:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 13:46:00 <jcpham>	i'm sort of waiting for the day i'm branded a terrorist myself
Dec 28 13:46:07 <jcpham>	for using funny internet money
Dec 28 13:46:13 <pigeons>	vote wit yah feet
Dec 28 13:46:17 <jcpham>	market making, profit taking
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Dec 28 14:07:38 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: "Your order #4828665 has been canceled" << see what's missing there?
Dec 28 14:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	nope :D
Dec 28 14:08:28 <smickles>	;;google canceled
Dec 28 14:08:29 <gribble>	Cancelled Vs Canceled | Reference.com Answers: <http://www.reference.com/motif/language/cancelled-vs-canceled>; canceled - definition of canceled by the Free Online Dictionary ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/canceled>; Is the correct spelling of the word 'cancelled' or 'canceled': <http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_correct_spelling_of_the_word_'cancelled'_or_'canceled'>
Dec 28 14:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
Dec 28 14:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 28 14:10:29 <jcpham>	i lost a 6850 this week
Dec 28 14:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	old age ?
Dec 28 14:11:18 <jcpham>	actually it has already been rma'd once
Dec 28 14:11:21 <jcpham>	it just sucks
Dec 28 14:11:30 <jcpham>	i just bought this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202010
Dec 28 14:11:36 <jcpham>	to replace it while i rma it again
Dec 28 14:12:53 <jcpham>	i'll gpu mine until i have to pay for a power bill
Dec 28 14:13:48 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 28 14:13:49 <gribble>	13.33
Dec 28 14:14:55 <smickles>	uh-oh, jurov it's having trouble finding order #'s now :o
Dec 28 14:19:05 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 28 14:19:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.40091, Best ask: 13.44997, Bid-ask spread: 0.04906, Last trade: 13.40091, 24 hour volume: 21262.83730854, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.41324
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Dec 28 14:19:31 <thestringpuller>	5 hours till settlement no?
Dec 28 14:19:40 <smickles>	there abouts
Dec 28 14:19:46 <smickles>	it's 19:19 utc
Dec 28 14:20:13 <smickles>	so 5.79 hrs, i think
Dec 28 14:20:30 <thestringpuller>	4.79
Dec 28 14:20:46 <smickles>	heh, yes, 4.79
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Dec 28 14:21:20 *	smickles sings, "'Cause I'm livin'... 25 hours a daaaaay"
Dec 28 14:21:36 <smickles>	secret of my success baby
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Dec 28 14:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 28 14:25:08 <thestringpuller>	there is nothing to do at work
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Dec 28 14:25:35 <thestringpuller>	they are essentially paying me to talk here
Dec 28 14:27:38 <jcpham>	i'm about to leave work myself
Dec 28 14:27:46 <jcpham>	be back wednesday
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Dec 28 14:30:34 <thestringpuller>	i wish i could leave
Dec 28 14:30:51 <jcpham>	just do it. screw those bosses and their work
Dec 28 14:31:26 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 28 14:31:33 <thestringpuller>	dissident are we?
Dec 28 14:32:11 <jcpham>	mvp's usually are
Dec 28 14:32:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6106 @ 0.00064 = 3.9078 BTC [+]
Dec 28 14:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4436 @ 0.00064 = 2.839 BTC [+]
Dec 28 14:45:11 <jcpham>	https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OKFhItNAjZI/UN30OiV0H3I/AAAAAAAAMxA/c_tp4ihAU40/s640/meth+masturbation.jpg
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Dec 28 14:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00064 = 7.52 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 14:56:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00064 = 7.68 BTC [+]
Dec 28 14:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol thestringpuller-pr
Dec 28 15:06:41 <jurov>	smickles, told ya
Dec 28 15:06:53 <kakobrekla>	evening.
Dec 28 15:07:03 <jurov>	'night
Dec 28 15:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10154 @ 0.00064 = 6.4986 BTC [+]
Dec 28 15:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Dec 28 15:17:54 <kakobrekla>	not yet
Dec 28 15:22:46 <jurov>	;;ident jurov
Dec 28 15:22:46 <gribble>	Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@2001:5c0:1400:b::1245', is identified as user jurov, with GPG key id 677ABD62D0AEE7D7, key fingerprint BBB0A99950037551F533850A677ABD62D0AEE7D7, and bitcoin address None
Dec 28 15:23:14 <jurov>	i heard there was some filthy impostor doing mpex fundings with smickles
Dec 28 15:24:00 <jurov>	;;rated smickles
Dec 28 15:24:00 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user smickles
Dec 28 15:24:07 <jurov>	;;rate smickles 1
Dec 28 15:24:13 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user smickles has been recorded.
Dec 28 15:25:05 <jurov>	;;rated Ukto
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Dec 28 15:25:28 <jurov>	;;rate Ukto 2 pleasure to work with him (no homo)
Dec 28 15:25:36 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user Ukto has been recorded.
Dec 28 15:25:49 <Ukto>	roflol
Dec 28 15:28:03 <jurov>	;;rated jurov
Dec 28 15:28:03 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user jurov
Dec 28 15:28:27 <jurov>	;;rate jurov 10
Dec 28 15:28:28 <gribble>	Error: You cannot rate yourself.
Dec 28 15:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21070 @ 0.00064 = 13.4848 BTC [+]
Dec 28 15:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14843 @ 0.00064 = 9.4995 BTC [+]
Dec 28 15:42:25 <smickles>	heh, thx jurov
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Dec 28 15:47:08 <Bugpowder>	Latest Dooglas post is out.  33737.14961221  Profit for S.DICE
Dec 28 15:47:22 <Bugpowder>	so up to ~17,700 for the month
Dec 28 15:47:35 <Bugpowder>	WHERE DID THE BUYERS GO??
Dec 28 15:48:10 <Bugpowder>	If only these S.MPOE bots would train there sights on S.DICE we could get a decent valuation.
Dec 28 15:48:28 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 15:48:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45768, Best ask: 13.49769, Bid-ask spread: 0.04001, Last trade: 13.49883, 24 hour volume: 23420.32427228, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42037
Dec 28 15:50:58 <smickles>	;;calc 17700 / 100000000 / 0.0037
Dec 28 15:50:58 <gribble>	0.0478378378378
Dec 28 15:51:35 <smickles>	;;calc 1500000*0.0037
Dec 28 15:51:35 <gribble>	5550
Dec 28 15:51:46 <smickles>	anyone have 5550 or so btc to lend?
Dec 28 15:52:15 <smickles>	I'll pay back 1% per the term
Dec 28 15:53:24 <smickles>	term ending on jan 6
Dec 28 15:53:30 <jurov>	Bugpowder, how exactly do you suppose the bots for s.dice would work?
Dec 28 15:53:35 <Bugpowder>	buy
Dec 28 15:53:45 <Bugpowder>	same way they are working for S.MPOE
Dec 28 15:53:48 <Bugpowder>	just buy
Dec 28 15:54:00 <Bugpowder>	I haven't seen a sell on S.MPOE in 2 days
Dec 28 15:54:17 <jurov>	oh...er...how do you know these are bots?
Dec 28 15:54:20 <Bugpowder>	14,000,000 shares
Dec 28 15:54:31 <Bugpowder>	what else could they be
Dec 28 15:54:43 <Bugpowder>	A steady drip of 2-20BTC buys
Dec 28 15:54:48 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 15:54:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42001, Best ask: 13.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 13.42001, 24 hour volume: 24188.06995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310
Dec 28 15:54:56 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 15:54:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42001, Best ask: 13.48878, Bid-ask spread: 0.06877, Last trade: 13.42001, 24 hour volume: 24188.06995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310
Dec 28 15:55:10 <Bugpowder>	13.5 is going
Dec 28 15:55:12 <Bugpowder>	down
Dec 28 15:55:14 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 15:55:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41102, Best ask: 13.48877, Bid-ask spread: 0.07775, Last trade: 13.41102, 24 hour volume: 24188.07995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310
Dec 28 15:55:24 <jurov>	i can imagine someone programmed a "bot" for dripping buys of s.mpoe
Dec 28 15:55:41 <Bugpowder>	it's weird
Dec 28 15:55:44 <jurov>	but that's just a script, not  a real bot that makes decisions
Dec 28 15:55:50 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Dec 28 15:56:03 <Bugpowder>	but its just super steady small lot buys
Dec 28 15:56:08 <Bugpowder>	all day all night
Dec 28 15:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7791 @ 0.00064 = 4.9862 BTC [+]
Dec 28 15:56:19 <Bugpowder>	cough
Dec 28 15:56:26 <Bugpowder>	well
Dec 28 15:56:36 <Bugpowder>	I hope it keeps up through the divvy payment
Dec 28 15:56:39 <Bugpowder>	:)
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Dec 28 15:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00064 = 0.064 BTC [+]
Dec 28 15:57:18 <Bugpowder>	it's like someone forgot to change the setting on their bot after the secondary offering
Dec 28 15:57:36 <Bugpowder>	And they have 1000s of coins to play with
Dec 28 15:58:55 <jurov>	but why would they do it?
Dec 28 15:59:19 <Bugpowder>	they are gone on vacation
Dec 28 15:59:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00351365 = 0.0351 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 15:59:47 <Bugpowder>	YAY
Dec 28 16:00:05 <Bugpowder>	I might be overexposed to S.DICE
Dec 28 16:00:10 <jurov>	no i mean.. do they fear that buying it all in one go would cause X?
Dec 28 16:00:50 <Bugpowder>	it's like they have a bot that hits the ask every 15 minutes
Dec 28 16:01:13 <Bugpowder>	and sells when the bid goes over the purchase price
Dec 28 16:01:21 <smickles>	maybe to try to catch some lower sells
Dec 28 16:01:25 <Bugpowder>	but it cant go over cause the secondary offering
Dec 28 16:01:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00064 = 4.704 BTC [+]
Dec 28 16:01:33 <Bugpowder>	LOL
Dec 28 16:01:49 <jurov>	smickles yes, their idea might be, to get better price.. but that's totally not working now
Dec 28 16:04:00 <Bugpowder>	The funny thing is.... it's not exploitable by us either
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Dec 28 16:04:29 <jurov>	.. unless someone lends me 4800 btc, ofc
Dec 28 16:05:08 <smickles>	;;getrating jurov
Dec 28 16:05:08 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask jurov!~jurov@2001:5c0:1400:b::1245 . User jurov, rated since Fri Jan 20 15:16:32 2012. Cumulative rating 17, from 11 total ratings. Received ratings: 11 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 8 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jurov
Dec 28 16:05:57 <smickles>	jurov: what rate would you pay for ~100 btc?
Dec 28 16:06:29 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 16:06:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41005, Best ask: 13.48989, Bid-ask spread: 0.07984, Last trade: 13.49995, 24 hour volume: 24497.02820033, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42369
Dec 28 16:07:03 <jurov>	i won't make a scratch on that wall with 100btc
Dec 28 16:07:41 <smickles>	I just figured i'd go fishin'
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Dec 28 16:08:33 <Bugpowder>	;;calc .00064*6234323
Dec 28 16:08:33 <gribble>	3989.96672
Dec 28 16:09:02 <Bugpowder>	3 more days like this and its gone
Dec 28 16:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00064 = 5.888 BTC [+]
Dec 28 16:10:41 <smickles>	someone should be watching known/suspected mircea addys for possible connection to these buys, on the off chance that a connection is made
Dec 28 16:11:01 <smickles>	it'd be complicated tho
Dec 28 16:12:45 <smickles>	I should just pretend to do it and make regular reports saying there is no connection to raise confidence
Dec 28 16:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	how do you calculate being overexposed ?
Dec 28 16:16:30 <smickles>	probably something to do with the slipage involved with a sale of a large portion of it
Dec 28 16:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	i been trying to calc stuff like that with about 0 success
Dec 28 16:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	mostly cause the market is so random
Dec 28 16:17:15 <kakobrekla>	soh
Dec 28 16:17:29 <kakobrekla>	mpex has 30times the volume of largest SL exchange
Dec 28 16:17:31 <smickles>	then incorporate random walk theory mircea_popescu ;)
Dec 28 16:18:03 <thestringpuller>	SL?
Dec 28 16:18:11 <kakobrekla>	second life
Dec 28 16:18:11 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ya lol
Dec 28 16:18:18 <kakobrekla>	shit i dont even have the first one
Dec 28 16:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	excep this is more like random pounce
Dec 28 16:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	yest i looked into market, there were absolutely NO offers of s.mpoe
Dec 28 16:18:33 <mircea_popescu>	other than mine
Dec 28 16:19:05 <thestringpuller>	more dividend power
Dec 28 16:19:14 <thestringpuller>	buyers market at this poinr
Dec 28 16:19:38 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: that's a spooky fact
Dec 28 16:20:22 <smickles>	maybe it's cause there arn't enough people will balls enough to short it
Dec 28 16:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	that's the other thing, theres a PILE of buys
Dec 28 16:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	or was
Dec 28 16:21:12 <mircea_popescu>	ya still is.
Dec 28 16:21:15 <Bugpowder>	all paid in advance
Dec 28 16:21:21 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder yes.
Dec 28 16:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00064 = 1.472 BTC [+]
Dec 28 16:21:38 <mircea_popescu>	fact is, i've seen more nonsense in btc finance than all togetgher anywhere else all time.
Dec 28 16:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	embodiment of fucken chaos.
Dec 28 16:25:03 <kakobrekla>	goes together with the crypto anarchism i guess
Dec 28 16:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00064 = 1.024 BTC [+]
Dec 28 16:32:11 <Bugpowder>	Well, its 3.38M shares of bids > .00058
Dec 28 16:32:18 <Bugpowder>	around 2100BTC
Dec 28 16:33:10 <Bugpowder>	And if this tier sells thru, the bot might make a profit
Dec 28 16:33:11 <Bugpowder>	heh
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Dec 28 16:41:17 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 16:41:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42002, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 13.42002, 24 hour volume: 22418.93354803, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.43718
Dec 28 16:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	course some it bought at 6.2
Dec 28 16:45:52 <mircea_popescu>	there were 10mn at 6.2 too\
Dec 28 16:47:55 <Bugpowder>	yeah I wanted in at 62 but had no free capital
Dec 28 16:48:21 <mircea_popescu>	compared to the earlier buy of sdice at 18...
Dec 28 16:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	ima be telling my grandkids about that
Dec 28 16:49:14 <Bugpowder>	yeah but very low volume
Dec 28 16:49:16 <Bugpowder>	on the 18
Dec 28 16:49:18 <Bugpowder>	 right?
Dec 28 16:49:28 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Dec 28 16:49:33 <mircea_popescu>	like 1,5mn
Dec 28 16:49:35 <Bugpowder>	I thought it was only like 300 shares that popped off at that price
Dec 28 16:49:38 <Bugpowder>	o
Dec 28 16:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	was a small one early
Dec 28 16:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	the next day, massive sellout
Dec 28 16:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	let me find this
Dec 28 16:50:06 <Bugpowder>	I dare say it spooked the market
Dec 28 16:50:14 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE price has never recovered
Dec 28 16:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	Dec 21 23:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 506 @ 0.00190007 = 0.9614 BTC [-]
Dec 28 16:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	Dec 21 23:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00190001 = 9.5001 BTC [-]
Dec 28 16:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	Dec 21 23:50:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 507115 @ 0.0018 = 912.807 BTC [-]
Dec 28 16:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	Dec 21 23:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 995840 @ 0.0014 = 1394.176 BTC [-]
Dec 28 16:52:50 <Bugpowder>	fuck that
Dec 28 16:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 28 16:53:20 <smickles>	lol, someone sold right b/f the end of the world
Dec 28 16:53:58 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Dec 28 16:54:05 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't notice this at the time
Dec 28 16:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	you seriously telling me it was a millenarist thing ?!
Dec 28 16:54:22 <smickles>	maybe
Dec 28 16:54:25 <Bugpowder>	cryptoanarchist
Dec 28 16:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	what were they going to do with bitcoins ?
Dec 28 16:54:46 <smickles>	go to space w/ the greys
Dec 28 16:55:04 <mircea_popescu>	why bitcoin and not bottlecaps ?
Dec 28 16:55:55 <smickles>	bitcoins, being man's great acheivement, are like aboriginal boomerangs to the greys
Dec 28 16:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Dec 28 16:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	i'll say this, it may be the case we have a real market here on the strength of the criteria that it makes absolutely no sense.
Dec 28 16:59:22 <smickles>	no sense? it's an unyeilding techincal (chartist) breakout
Dec 28 16:59:44 <smickles>	and it has the best fundamentals of any freely available bitcoin investment
Dec 28 17:00:22 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: face facts, you're winning
Dec 28 17:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok. i never got very far into ta
Dec 28 17:02:23 <Bugpowder>	yeah, I only get as far as to tell people 'you are drawing lines on a chart. you are an idiot.
Dec 28 17:02:43 <Bugpowder>	Damn.  SP500 closed at 1402.
Dec 28 17:02:47 <smickles>	well, these bots Bugpowder was complaining weren't on s.dice too are probably running on TA
Dec 28 17:03:10 <Bugpowder>	Would have bot SP500 if I saw the drop
Dec 28 17:03:24 <Bugpowder>	Bigger dump if no deal though
Dec 28 17:03:26 <Bugpowder>	come on!
Dec 28 17:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	igot news for you mr
Dec 28 17:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	there's not going to be any deal and the stocks will continue to appreciate
Dec 28 17:04:14 <Bugpowder>	yes
Dec 28 17:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	they are completely divorced from any fundamentals, the nyse is currently running its very own version of the stock generation scam
Dec 28 17:04:23 <Bugpowder>	this is why I need to buy on the panic
Dec 28 17:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	comming up next, rule 42 or w/e the fuck
Dec 28 17:04:43 <smickles>	lol, i can see it now. continue to buy and hold until taxes are lowered again
Dec 28 17:04:49 <Bugpowder>	the only way to keep pace with the printing is to own stocks
Dec 28 17:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	taxes are never lowered again.
Dec 28 17:05:18 <Bugpowder>	taxes are never going lower than this
Dec 28 17:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	the us is headed straight for central planning.
Dec 28 17:05:28 <Bugpowder>	they are insanely low
Dec 28 17:05:28 <mircea_popescu>	haha werd.
Dec 28 17:05:58 <Bugpowder>	going over cliff is US's best hope I think
Dec 28 17:06:14 <Bugpowder>	Also I don't mind paying more in taxes as long as everyone else must too
Dec 28 17:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	owning shares makes absolutely no sense.
Dec 28 17:06:22 <mircea_popescu>	what do these shares represent ? the government runs the corp anyway.
Dec 28 17:07:03 <Bugpowder>	;;calc (1402-666)/666
Dec 28 17:07:03 <gribble>	1.10510510511
Dec 28 17:07:13 <Bugpowder>	110% return from the lows to today
Dec 28 17:07:20 <Bugpowder>	not bad for an index
Dec 28 17:07:24 <Bugpowder>	of real money
Dec 28 17:07:31 <Bugpowder>	not game currency
Dec 28 17:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	i'm with jp morgan.
Dec 28 17:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	if i don't trust a man he can't have any money from me on all the bonds in christendom
Dec 28 17:08:32 <Bugpowder>	I somehow feel that S.DICE shares have more risk than SPY.... but..  maybe I am not with the new way
Dec 28 17:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	and i don't trust obama, bernanke and co
Dec 28 17:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	consequently, i own exactly 0 us equities.
Dec 28 17:09:22 <Bugpowder>	foriegn equities?
Dec 28 17:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	some
Dec 28 17:10:18 <Bugpowder>	Did the S.MPOE bot hear us and get turned off?
Dec 28 17:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	haha did it ?
Dec 28 17:10:39 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 17:10:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45101, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04899, Last trade: 13.45101, 24 hour volume: 22730.04896326, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44036
Dec 28 17:10:51 <Bugpowder>	<1000 BTC ask at 13.5
Dec 28 17:10:52 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 28 17:10:54 <gribble>	13.36
Dec 28 17:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135673209237.jpg ahahaha this!
Dec 28 17:12:54 <smickles>	lol
Dec 28 17:13:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00064 = 2.144 BTC [+]
Dec 28 17:14:20 <smickles>	people, buy/sell my options offers, there's still plenty of time b/f maturity :D
Dec 28 17:15:20 <Bugpowder>	is settelment done with 24hprc, 24vwap, or spot?
Dec 28 17:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	24hprc = 24vwap
Dec 28 17:15:42 <Bugpowder>	look up
Dec 28 17:15:51 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 28 17:15:51 <gribble>	13.36
Dec 28 17:15:53 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 17:15:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45112, Best ask: 13.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04878, Last trade: 13.45112, 24 hour volume: 22730.29997529, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44044
Dec 28 17:16:04 <smickles>	Bugpowder: bc,24hprc
Dec 28 17:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	a
Dec 28 17:16:13 <mircea_popescu>	the ticker is mtgox only i think ?
Dec 28 17:16:16 <Bugpowder>	I think 24hprc is off
Dec 28 17:16:41 <smickles>	it's what is being reported by bitcoincharts
Dec 28 17:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/
Dec 28 17:16:54 <smickles>	and that's what mpex uses
Dec 28 17:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	ya 13.36 it says
Dec 28 17:17:07 <smickles>	it was 13.33 only an hour or so ago
Dec 28 17:17:12 <Bugpowder>	I see
Dec 28 17:17:22 <Bugpowder>	volume is 10x on gox
Dec 28 17:17:31 <Bugpowder>	but other have prices down at 13.1
Dec 28 17:17:33 <Bugpowder>	still
Dec 28 17:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	but im pretty sure it's a vwap, because of its behaviour when volume occurs
Dec 28 17:17:46 <Bugpowder>	13.2
Dec 28 17:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	so i think ticker is mtgox vwap only and 24hprc is all exchanges
Dec 28 17:18:18 <jurov>	;;(14-13.36)/13.36
Dec 28 17:18:18 <gribble>	Error: "(14-13.36)/13.36" is not a valid command.
Dec 28 17:18:22 <jurov>	;;calc (14-13.36)/13.36
Dec 28 17:18:22 <gribble>	0.0479041916168
Dec 28 17:18:51 <Bugpowder>	I sold 100 calls and puts at 14 for about .20 average
Dec 28 17:18:53 <Bugpowder>	happy
Dec 28 17:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	good move.
Dec 28 17:19:20 <Bugpowder>	very stable month
Dec 28 17:19:52 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 28 17:19:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45114, Best ask: 13.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04876, Last trade: 13.45114, 24 hour volume: 22742.72980548, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44065
Dec 28 17:20:08 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 28 17:20:20 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hrpc
Dec 28 17:20:21 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrpc" is not a valid command.
Dec 28 17:20:39 <thestringpuller>	smickles whats that command...
Dec 28 17:20:44 <smickles>	stable 2 months, i say, i sold about 40 contracts to the bot when they were 'N's at the beginning of the month and stand to make ~13% on them
Dec 28 17:20:54 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 28 17:20:55 <gribble>	13.36
Dec 28 17:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	yea its been remarkably calm
Dec 28 17:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	esp with the halving and all
Dec 28 17:25:16 <Bugpowder>	boom
Dec 28 17:25:21 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 17:25:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45114, Best ask: 13.50999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05885, Last trade: 13.45114, 24 hour volume: 23720.51157629, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44342
Dec 28 17:26:18 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 17:26:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45112, Best ask: 13.53299, Bid-ask spread: 0.08187, Last trade: 13.53300, 24 hour volume: 23778.70373198, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44439
Dec 28 17:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	boom ?
Dec 28 17:28:25 <smickles>	check the high
Dec 28 17:28:37 <smickles>	no...
Dec 28 17:28:49 <smickles>	that's been the high for a little while now
Dec 28 17:28:52 <smickles>	boom?
Dec 28 17:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZzBd41NuZw
Dec 28 17:32:52 <Bugpowder>	the previous high was a misprint
Dec 28 17:33:11 <Bugpowder>	it hasn't been about 13.50 for real for a while...
Dec 28 17:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15625 @ 0.00064 = 10 BTC [+]
Dec 28 17:38:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]
Dec 28 17:41:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00064 = 2.88 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 17:48:13 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 17:48:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44996, Best ask: 13.49987, Bid-ask spread: 0.04991, Last trade: 13.49996, 24 hour volume: 23899.71614026, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44574
Dec 28 17:50:39 <jurov>	feeling in the room is palpable
Dec 28 17:51:22 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 28 17:51:24 <gribble>	13.37
Dec 28 17:52:13 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you should let the mpbor % leak ;)
Dec 28 17:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 28 17:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	i dun even have it yet.
Dec 28 17:52:38 <smickles>	that doesn't stop most leaks, right?
Dec 28 17:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	ok.
Dec 28 17:52:57 <mircea_popescu>	eleventy %
Dec 28 17:53:01 <smickles>	lol
Dec 28 17:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 17:59:41 <thestringpuller>	11% lol
Dec 28 17:59:41 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 28 17:59:42 <gribble>	13.37
Dec 28 17:59:48 <thestringpuller>	i need a wife
Dec 28 17:59:57 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: talk me out of it
Dec 28 18:00:22 <smickles>	thestringpuller: that's 111%, actually, didn't you ever read Bilbo's speach at his birthday at the beginning of the hobbit?
Dec 28 18:00:27 <smickles>	er
Dec 28 18:00:29 <smickles>	110%
Dec 28 18:01:12 <thestringpuller>	paraphrased: "i hate all of you goodbye"
Dec 28 18:01:12 <smickles>	it was his eleventy-first birthday party
Dec 28 18:01:33 <smickles>	lol, that + tact
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Dec 28 18:13:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00064 = 2.944 BTC [+]
Dec 28 18:19:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00064 = 1.216 BTC [+]
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Dec 28 18:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10215 @ 0.00064 = 6.5376 BTC [+]
Dec 28 18:27:42 <jurov>	#bitcoin-assets before mpoe announcement: http://c.cslacker.com/587l.jpg
Dec 28 18:28:25 <smickles>	i'm the one on the far right
Dec 28 18:29:15 <jcpham>	meow
Dec 28 18:30:47 <Azelphur>	smickles: are all the SS payments done now?
Dec 28 18:31:05 <jcpham>	squeeze him Azelphur
Dec 28 18:31:12 <smickles>	Azelphur: nope, and there's one in the pipe right now
Dec 28 18:31:18 <Azelphur>	cool :P
Dec 28 18:31:21 *	Azelphur squeezes
Dec 28 18:31:25 <smickles>	i'm working on syncing the chain on that machine
Dec 28 18:31:31 <Azelphur>	:D
Dec 28 18:31:34 <jcpham>	mmmmm fresh lemonade
Dec 28 18:35:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 28 18:38:09 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: you there?
Dec 28 18:38:53 <jcpham>	afk mining on GTX 630's like a boss
Dec 28 18:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00064 = 2.56 BTC [+]
Dec 28 18:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00064 = 6.688 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:00:12 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 28 19:00:13 <gribble>	13.37
Dec 28 19:01:01 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Dec 28 19:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	leet btc is leet
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Dec 28 19:13:19 <kakobrekla>	Completed txs: 670 | Completed txs vol: 5093 BTC
Dec 28 19:13:43 <kakobrekla>	broke a pittyful 5k tonight
Dec 28 19:17:55 <Bugpowder>	coinbr?
Dec 28 19:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-december-2012-statement/
Dec 28 19:18:39 <mircea_popescu>	and it's out. good month.
Dec 28 19:18:59 <Bugpowder>	I KNEW IT
Dec 28 19:19:05 <Bugpowder>	the bond rate sure helpd
Dec 28 19:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00064 = 4 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	even if it were 10% it'd still yhave made profit.
Dec 28 19:21:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 145000 @ 0.00064 = 92.8 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:21:29 <Bugpowder>	ha
Dec 28 19:21:35 <Bugpowder>	getting in before the divvy
Dec 28 19:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00064 = 13.44 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 28 19:22:40 <Bugpowder>	those aren't the bot
Dec 28 19:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800000 @ 0.00064 = 512 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:24:15 <kakobrekla>	campbx might have gone bad
Dec 28 19:24:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00064 = 2.336 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:24:33 <Bugpowder>	thats the bot
Dec 28 19:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00064 = 32 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 500000000 @ 0.00000003 = 14 BTC
Dec 28 19:26:47 <Bugpowder>	fuck
Dec 28 19:26:48 <Bugpowder>	too
Dec 28 19:26:50 <Bugpowder>	slow
Dec 28 19:27:55 <Bugpowder>	14BTC???
Dec 28 19:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	bah i fucked it up
Dec 28 19:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	freeze everything!
Dec 28 19:29:30 <kakobrekla>	thats just assbot
Dec 28 19:29:35 <kakobrekla>	assfuckin around.
Dec 28 19:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	no i actually fucked it up
Dec 28 19:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	sent 10x
Dec 28 19:30:51 <Bugpowder>	no
Dec 28 19:31:04 <Bugpowder>	too late I spent it
Dec 28 19:33:03 <Bugpowder>	heh
Dec 28 19:33:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 28 19:33:07 <Bugpowder>	everything is frozen
Dec 28 19:33:12 <Bugpowder>	my S.DICE buy is not executing
Dec 28 19:33:21 <jurov>	twitter says S.MPOE paid a total dividend of 14`252.99177745 BTC to 500`000`000 outstanding shares.
Dec 28 19:33:28 <jurov>	quite a hefty sum
Dec 28 19:33:37 <Bugpowder>	well
Dec 28 19:33:46 <Bugpowder>	13000 of it was to MP
Dec 28 19:34:11 <jurov>	and assbot needs fixing to parse romanian numerals
Dec 28 19:34:18 <Bugpowder>	at least now we know mp has 14000 BTC
Dec 28 19:34:35 <kakobrekla>	mpex needs to upgrade teh api interface
Dec 28 19:36:54 <smickles>	damn, my mpbor troll didn't work :P
Dec 28 19:37:19 <smickles>	maybe it did, and I spooked money into sensible bids, who knows
Dec 28 19:37:37 <mod6>	yowza!
Dec 28 19:37:54 <Bugpowder>	there wasn't much volatility this month, so maybe that ment not a lot of exposure
Dec 28 19:38:18 *	da2ce7_d is now known as da2ce7
Dec 28 19:38:31 <Bugpowder>	so mad I didn't get my other 280BTC into S.MPOE before the fuckup
Dec 28 19:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	well yes everything is frozen
Dec 28 19:39:23 <Bugpowder>	Total capital : 7`292.03, of which
Dec 28 19:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00346166 = 7.0964 BTC [-]
Dec 28 19:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 126 @ 0.00355333 = 0.4477 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1370 @ 0.00358687 = 4.914 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 477 @ 0.00358998 = 1.7124 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00359072 = 2.334 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 12499 @ 0.0036 = 44.9964 BTC [+]
Dec 28 19:40:55 <Bugpowder>	there we go
Dec 28 19:41:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 500000000 @  = 1 BTC
Dec 28 19:41:48 <kakobrekla>	much better, a coin.
Dec 28 19:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	haha okai,
Dec 28 19:42:06 <kakobrekla>	fuckin broked shit
Dec 28 19:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	5000infinities @ nothinghere = 1!
Dec 28 19:42:20 <kakobrekla>	yes
Dec 28 19:42:24 <kakobrekla>	didnt ya know
Dec 28 19:42:37 <kakobrekla>	hipstermath
Dec 28 19:43:09 <Bugpowder>	single precision
Dec 28 19:43:31 <kakobrekla>	perhaps "1" was indeed "true"
Dec 28 19:43:51 <kakobrekla>	as in "yes it paid btc"
Dec 28 19:43:57 *	jurov puts on protective gear and ventures into coinbr database to sort out the dividend
Dec 28 19:44:01 <mircea_popescu>	hey, at least assbot doesn't go around paying 15k btc instead 0f 1.5k
Dec 28 19:44:14 <kakobrekla>	:D
Dec 28 19:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	o hai jurov
Dec 28 19:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.00063988 = 3.4528 BTC [-]
Dec 28 19:47:00 <Bugpowder>	in other news
Dec 28 19:47:01 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 19:47:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.49631, Bid-ask spread: 0.07433, Last trade: 13.42187, 24 hour volume: 23987.69053134, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44801
Dec 28 19:47:07 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 19:47:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.49631, Bid-ask spread: 0.07433, Last trade: 13.42187, 24 hour volume: 23987.69053134, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44801
Dec 28 19:47:22 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 19:47:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.49631, Bid-ask spread: 0.07433, Last trade: 13.42187, 24 hour volume: 23987.69053134, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44801
Dec 28 19:47:31 <Bugpowder>	13.60
Dec 28 19:47:53 <Bugpowder>	13.65
Dec 28 19:48:08 <jurov>	done. fortunately that i don't trust stat stuff and initiate dividing the cake manually.
Dec 28 19:48:11 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 19:48:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12802, Last trade: 13.65000, 24 hour volume: 31339.88226787, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.66978, 24 hour vwap: 13.48579
Dec 28 19:48:20 <Bugpowder>	13:67
Dec 28 19:49:24 <Bugpowder>	here we go again
Dec 28 19:50:25 <mircea_popescu>	13:67 huh ?
Dec 28 19:52:56 <Bugpowder>	13.67
Dec 28 19:52:58 <Bugpowder>	$
Dec 28 19:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063988 = 2.5915 BTC [-]
Dec 28 19:53:42 <Bugpowder>	does split use 24hprc for ITM put deposit calculations?
Dec 28 19:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	plus some volatility sauce.
Dec 28 20:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00063988 = 3.1354 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:14:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8482 @ 0.00063988 = 5.4275 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:14:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.0006396 = 3.0701 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:14:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8944 @ 0.00063934 = 5.7183 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:14:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6948 @ 0.00063915 = 4.4408 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:14:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00063909 = 6.0074 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:14:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063896 = 4.0254 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3260 @ 0.0006388 = 2.0825 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:15:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00063877 = 6.9626 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12627 @ 0.00063873 = 8.0652 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00063833 = 7.9153 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00063831 = 4.149 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:15:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063802 = 1.5951 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:15:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65000 @ 0.000638 = 41.47 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:17:33 <Bugpowder>	lol
Dec 28 20:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.000638 = 1.914 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:30:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.000638 = 4.6255 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10215 @ 0.000638 = 6.5172 BTC [-]
Dec 28 20:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	eee the scalping
Dec 28 20:56:47 <smickles>	that 'volatility sauce' is annoying as fuck :P
Dec 28 20:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	i live to piss off.
Dec 28 21:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.000638 = 3.6366 BTC [-]
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Dec 28 21:26:09 <Bugpowder>	boring
Dec 28 21:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7183 @ 0.000638 = 4.5828 BTC [-]
Dec 28 21:53:26 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 28 21:53:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.52109, Best ask: 13.59974, Bid-ask spread: 0.07865, Last trade: 13.52109, 24 hour volume: 32543.24138401, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.67000, 24 hour vwap: 13.49578
Dec 28 21:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	"bitcoin moves up on good mpex news"
Dec 28 21:56:15 <Bugpowder>	lol
Dec 28 21:56:23 <Bugpowder>	sure seemed like it
Dec 28 22:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.000638 = 3.4452 BTC [-]
Dec 28 22:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.000638 = 7.8474 BTC [-]
Dec 28 22:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.000638 = 0.319 BTC [-]
Dec 28 22:12:23 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: yes Im here
Dec 28 22:12:25 <Diablo-D3>	in other news
Dec 28 22:12:28 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20121228/01025121504/sf-wireless-isp-monkeybrains-tries-to-crowdfund-325-million-satellite.shtml
Dec 28 22:12:36 <Diablo-D3>	:3
Dec 28 22:13:01 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: btw, nefario just sent me my final list
Dec 28 22:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	are you consulting for them Diablo-D3 ?
Dec 28 22:20:23 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: please say you have a good punchline for that
Dec 28 22:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	that was the punchline omg
Dec 28 22:20:47 <mod6>	lol
Dec 28 22:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	you dun think it's funny ?
Dec 28 22:23:08 <Diablo-D3>	nope
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Dec 28 22:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23198 @ 0.000638 = 14.8003 BTC [-]
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Dec 28 22:58:05 <smickles>	alright, live test month of SOEBOT has begun!
Dec 28 23:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.000638 = 17.226 BTC [-]
Dec 28 23:00:55 <Diablo-D3>	wat?
Dec 28 23:01:27 <smickles>	I've launched an options market maker bot in beta
Dec 28 23:01:48 <smickles>	go trade with it :)
Dec 28 23:04:55 <thestringpuller>	how much capital is behind the bo
Dec 28 23:04:56 <thestringpuller>	bot
Dec 28 23:04:58 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 28 23:04:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43475, Best ask: 13.49409, Bid-ask spread: 0.05934, Last trade: 13.49409, 24 hour volume: 34545.30775319, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.67000, 24 hour vwap: 13.48996
Dec 28 23:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.000638 = 8.3259 BTC [-]
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Dec 28 23:05:35 <thestringpuller>	oh snap
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Dec 28 23:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.000638 = 4.147 BTC [-]
Dec 28 23:09:08 <smickles>	thestringpuller: a bit over 100 btc for now
Dec 28 23:16:42 <mircea_popescu>	soebot ?!
Dec 28 23:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	smickles is it trading 1 option ?
Dec 28 23:18:04 <smickles>	heh, yeah, one on each side of each strike which it's targeting
Dec 28 23:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	cute :D
Dec 28 23:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, this is enough excitement for one day.
Dec 28 23:19:27 <mircea_popescu>	catch you all... next year ?
Dec 28 23:19:32 <smickles>	i'm fine with making 1/1000th of mpoebot's profit :)
Dec 28 23:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	im kinda impressed with mpoebot tbh
Dec 28 23:20:25 <mircea_popescu>	how many trade bots get to be over one year old ?
Dec 28 23:21:22 <thestringpuller>	a lot
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Dec 29 00:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4873 @ 0.000638 = 3.109 BTC [-]
Dec 29 00:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9022 @ 0.000638 = 5.756 BTC [-]
Dec 29 00:39:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4802 @ 0.000638 = 3.0637 BTC [-]
Dec 29 00:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9013 @ 0.000638 = 5.7503 BTC [-]
Dec 29 01:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.000638 = 5.9334 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 01:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.000638 = 3.2219 BTC [-]
Dec 29 01:16:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.000638 = 4.8488 BTC [-]
Dec 29 01:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.000638 = 3.9237 BTC [-]
Dec 29 01:28:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.000638 = 6.061 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 01:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.000638 = 4.4022 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 02:30:38 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Dec 29 02:30:40 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 214141 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 1570 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 14 hours, 16 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3392759.15018622 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.8648629467
Dec 29 02:30:47 <dub>	;;bc,prevdiff
Dec 29 02:30:52 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
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Dec 29 02:42:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.000638 = 9.4743 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 02:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.000638 = 7.4965 BTC [-]
Dec 29 02:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.000638 = 1.1165 BTC [-]
Dec 29 03:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5544 @ 0.000638 = 3.5371 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 03:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.000638 = 7.5284 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 03:37:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.000638 = 2.1373 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 04:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.000638 = 7.7198 BTC [-]
Dec 29 05:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1688 @ 0.000638 = 1.0769 BTC [-]
Dec 29 05:01:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.000638 = 8.7406 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 05:46:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.000638 = 7.5922 BTC [-]
Dec 29 05:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10664 @ 0.000638 = 6.8036 BTC [-]
Dec 29 05:59:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.000638 = 4.5298 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 06:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.000638 = 5.6463 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 06:24:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4216 @ 0.000638 = 2.6898 BTC [-]
Dec 29 06:27:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.000638 = 5.2954 BTC [-]
Dec 29 06:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5892 @ 0.000638 = 3.7591 BTC [-]
Dec 29 06:43:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.000638 = 2.3606 BTC [-]
Dec 29 06:46:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.000638 = 7.4327 BTC [-]
Dec 29 07:09:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.000638 = 6.2524 BTC [-]
Dec 29 07:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.000638 = 1.2441 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 07:14:10 <kakobrekla>	fuckyea.
Dec 29 07:15:24 <kakobrekla>	http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~avivz/publications.html
Dec 29 07:20:26 <kakobrekla>	https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/541031_473590599354599_248671373_n.jpg
Dec 29 07:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	who;s he ?
Dec 29 07:33:08 <kakobrekla>	says on the homepage
Dec 29 07:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	ok but i mean...
Dec 29 07:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 502 @ 0.00346013 = 1.737 BTC [-]
Dec 29 07:35:08 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Dec 29 07:35:14 <kakobrekla>	im talkin to one of his students or smth
Dec 29 07:41:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.000638 = 4.6574 BTC [-]
Dec 29 07:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Dec 29 08:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3166 @ 0.000638 = 2.0199 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 08:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.000638 = 2.0416 BTC [-]
Dec 29 08:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.000638 = 13.3342 BTC [-]
Dec 29 09:03:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.000638 = 3.8918 BTC [-]
Dec 29 09:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.000638 = 1.4355 BTC [-]
Dec 29 09:34:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.000638 = 4.7531 BTC [-]
Dec 29 09:37:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12501 @ 0.000638 = 7.9756 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 09:44:18 <pigeons>	638 is even more boring than 64
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Dec 29 09:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.000638 = 1.9778 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 09:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.000638 = 1.1484 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 10:03:53 <kakobrekla>	who is the new owner of bitmarket.eu?
Dec 29 10:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.000638 = 8.932 BTC [-]
Dec 29 10:20:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20372 @ 0.000638 = 12.9973 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 10:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.000638 = 5.3911 BTC [-]
Dec 29 10:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.000638 = 6.6671 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 10:52:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.000638 = 1.8502 BTC [-]
Dec 29 11:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.000638 = 5.1678 BTC [-]
Dec 29 11:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5735 @ 0.000638 = 3.6589 BTC [-]
Dec 29 11:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7257 @ 0.000638 = 4.63 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 12:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2607 @ 0.000638 = 1.6633 BTC [-]
Dec 29 12:30:30 *	Ukto pokes mircea_popescu
Dec 29 12:30:51 <kakobrekla>	anyone here using gox api v1
Dec 29 12:40:39 <smickles>	"A node in the network has an
Dec 29 12:40:40 <smickles>	incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself,
Dec 29 12:40:42 <smickles>	A node in the network has an
Dec 29 12:40:45 <smickles>	incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself,
Dec 29 12:40:49 <smickles>	"A node in the network has an
Dec 29 12:40:49 <smickles>	incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself,
Dec 29 12:40:54 <smickles>	ack
Dec 29 12:40:56 <smickles>	whops
Dec 29 12:41:02 <smickles>	*oo
Dec 29 12:41:13 <smickles>	anyway, good link kakobrekla
Dec 29 12:41:36 <smickles>	kakobrekla: also, i use gox's v1 api from time to time
Dec 29 12:43:21 <kakobrekla>	smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133829.0
Dec 29 12:44:26 <Ukto>	smickles: pm :)
Dec 29 12:44:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.000638 = 7.2732 BTC [-]
Dec 29 12:50:45 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i'm not sure, but I think they require valid user-agent headers too
Dec 29 12:51:17 <smickles>	oh, nvm, that was a silly answer
Dec 29 12:52:13 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i only do manual withdrawals, so I don't know how well I can help
Dec 29 12:52:31 <kakobrekla>	k
Dec 29 12:57:27 <smickles>	kakobrekla: I don't use that api call to gen a key
Dec 29 12:57:38 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Dec 29 12:58:08 <smickles>	I use the the site to manually fetch a key/secret pair for each app
Dec 29 12:59:04 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Dec 29 12:59:19 <smickles>	hmm, I suppose only withdrawal requires the HOTP?
Dec 29 12:59:47 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Dec 29 12:59:59 <kakobrekla>	imma gonna try v2 now
Dec 29 13:00:06 <kakobrekla>	lets see what error i get there
Dec 29 13:00:11 <smickles>	is there any documentation on v2?
Dec 29 13:00:17 <smickles>	at all? anywhere?
Dec 29 13:00:17 <kakobrekla>	no
Dec 29 13:00:23 <kakobrekla>	but i have a working function
Dec 29 13:00:28 <kakobrekla>	cause i have a special call
Dec 29 13:00:34 <kakobrekla>	only for me.
Dec 29 13:00:35 <kakobrekla>	;>
Dec 29 13:03:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7527 @ 0.000638 = 4.8022 BTC [-]
Dec 29 13:04:00 <Ukto>	ugh
Dec 29 13:04:04 <Ukto>	dont get me started on their api
Dec 29 13:04:09 <Ukto>	v1.. v2.. wtf.
Dec 29 13:04:14 <Ukto>	i have to use a half mix between them
Dec 29 13:04:15 <Ukto>	for weex
Dec 29 13:04:27 <kakobrekla>	do you have withdrawals working?
Dec 29 13:04:52 <Ukto>	i only use them for generating and inputting mtgox codes
Dec 29 13:05:07 <kakobrekla>	yeah well
Dec 29 13:05:12 <kakobrekla>	if you generate a code
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Dec 29 13:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13882 @ 0.000638 = 8.8567 BTC [-]
Dec 29 13:17:12 <kakobreklaa>	;;seen Ukto
Dec 29 13:17:12 <gribble>	Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 minutes and 19 seconds ago: <Ukto> i only use them for generating and inputting mtgox codes
Dec 29 13:17:25 <Ukto>	?
Dec 29 13:17:33 <Ukto>	was waiting for you to finish your comment
Dec 29 13:17:34 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 29 13:17:35 <kakobreklaa>	just wanted to see what your last line was
Dec 29 13:17:41 <Ukto>	oh
Dec 29 13:17:41 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 29 13:17:45 <kakobreklaa>	perhaps i was cut off
Dec 29 13:17:53 <Ukto>	[12:07] <kakobrekla> if you generate a code
Dec 29 13:17:53 <Ukto>	[12:11] * kakobrekla (~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
Dec 29 13:18:01 <kakobreklaa>	19:05.07 ( kakobrekla ) if you generate a code
Dec 29 13:18:01 <kakobreklaa>	19:05.15 ( kakobrekla ) you use withdrawal api
Dec 29 13:18:01 <kakobreklaa>	19:05.18 ( kakobrekla ) if you use v0
Dec 29 13:18:01 <kakobreklaa>	19:05.24 ( kakobrekla ) you need to change
Dec 29 13:18:01 <kakobreklaa>	19:05.29 ( kakobrekla ) just as i need to.
Dec 29 13:18:01 <kakobreklaa>	19:06.09 ( kakobrekla ) if you use v1 you need to share how da fuck you gen code with it
Dec 29 13:18:03 <kakobreklaa>	19:06.16 ( kakobrekla ) ;>
Dec 29 13:18:18 <Ukto>	i dont know wtf ver I use
Dec 29 13:18:22 <Ukto>	it was the only one at the time that I know of
Dec 29 13:18:27 <Ukto>	someone did a withdraw... 2? days ago
Dec 29 13:18:39 <Ukto>	dec 27th
Dec 29 13:18:44 <kakobreklaa>	ya v0 is dead by the end of 2012
Dec 29 13:19:05 <Ukto>	I may just shut it down and say fuck it
Dec 29 13:19:10 <kakobreklaa>	;)
Dec 29 13:19:45 <Ukto>	ill look in 1 sec and tell you
Dec 29 13:19:47 <Ukto>	which I am using
Dec 29 13:19:51 <kakobreklaa>	v0 prolly
Dec 29 13:19:54 <Ukto>	gotta finish setting up some routing real quick
Dec 29 13:19:55 <Ukto>	prolly
Dec 29 13:20:13 <kakobreklaa>	i doubt ANYONE has got v1 working
Dec 29 13:20:33 <kakobreklaa>	and if im right they better not close it
Dec 29 13:20:39 <kakobreklaa>	the old one
Dec 29 13:21:48 <Ukto>	v0 was so simple :/
Dec 29 13:21:57 <Ukto>	the hard part was trying ot figure out the docs
Dec 29 13:22:02 <kakobreklaa>	ya
Dec 29 13:22:08 <kakobreklaa>	that fact still remains
Dec 29 13:29:57 <Ukto>	well
Dec 29 13:30:01 <Ukto>	seeing as the url is 0/
Dec 29 13:30:05 <Ukto>	I assume its not v1
Dec 29 13:30:11 <kakobreklaa>	correct
Dec 29 13:30:30 <Ukto>	so we have what.. 2? days?
Dec 29 13:30:51 <kakobreklaa>	v2 returns simmilar to v1 but has ZERO docs
Dec 29 13:30:52 <kakobreklaa>	["error"]=>
Dec 29 13:30:52 <kakobreklaa>	string(45) "Identification required to access private API"
Dec 29 13:30:52 <kakobreklaa>	["token"]=>
Dec 29 13:30:52 <kakobreklaa>	string(14) "login_required"
Dec 29 13:31:02 <kakobreklaa>	v1 is missing the OTP part
Dec 29 13:31:10 <kakobreklaa>	yeah according to their email
Dec 29 13:31:15 <kakobreklaa>	You are currently making use of a system which will be deprecated on Mon 31 Dec 2012 12:00:00 AM GMT:
Dec 29 13:32:57 <Ukto>	i didnt get an email
Dec 29 13:32:57 <Ukto>	heh
Dec 29 13:33:20 <kakobreklaa>	well i see in my code that btc2code is a 0/withdraw.php call
Dec 29 13:33:42 <kakobreklaa>	so i guess you fall in that category as well
Dec 29 13:33:49 <Ukto>	yeah
Dec 29 13:33:57 <Ukto>	i use mtgox_redeem and mtgox_createcoupon
Dec 29 13:34:22 <Ukto>	oh wiat, I wrote these functions
Dec 29 13:34:23 <Ukto>	LOL
Dec 29 13:34:28 <kakobreklaa>	ya
Dec 29 13:34:39 <kakobreklaa>	its a 0/withdraw.php post
Dec 29 13:34:40 <Ukto>	last touched may 30th 2012
Dec 29 13:34:44 <kakobreklaa>	to get the code
Dec 29 13:35:27 <kakobreklaa>	so the email says
Dec 29 13:35:27 <kakobreklaa>	Old bitcoin withdraw method for withdrawing bitcoins is deprecated. Please use https://mtgox.com/api/1/generic/bitcoin/send_simple or https://mtgox.com/api/2/money/bitcoin/send_simple instead
Dec 29 13:35:34 <kakobreklaa>	but no docu :>
Dec 29 13:35:39 <kakobreklaa>	tards.
Dec 29 13:36:08 <Ukto>	gox was one of the main reasons for why I am spending so much on my API documentation
Dec 29 13:36:12 <Ukto>	for BF && Weex
Dec 29 13:36:21 <Ukto>	fully interactive API documentation
Dec 29 13:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.000638 = 1.7864 BTC [-]
Dec 29 13:53:43 <kakobreklaa>	interactive api documentation? :>
Dec 29 13:53:54 <kakobreklaa>	cmon
Dec 29 13:54:10 <kakobreklaa>	thats not the important part here
Dec 29 13:54:37 <kakobreklaa>	hum
Dec 29 13:54:58 <kakobreklaa>	blockchain info can do api withdrawals too eh
Dec 29 13:57:20 <smickles>	blockchain.info can do a lot of things, apparently
Dec 29 13:58:05 <kakobreklaa>	but gox is free
Dec 29 13:58:13 <kakobreklaa>	here one needs to pay a tx fee ;>
Dec 29 13:58:34 <kakobreklaa>	cake is a lie.
Dec 29 14:04:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.000638 = 4.6255 BTC [-]
Dec 29 14:05:23 <Ukto>	blockchain also has issues
Dec 29 14:05:25 <Ukto>	and no responsibilities
Dec 29 14:05:34 <Ukto>	i have reported an problem with like 3 json responses
Dec 29 14:05:36 <kakobreklaa>	issues?
Dec 29 14:05:38 <Ukto>	repeatedly
Dec 29 14:05:44 <Ukto>	starting months ago
Dec 29 14:05:46 <Ukto>	that they didnt fix yet
Dec 29 14:05:50 <kakobreklaa>	which calls
Dec 29 14:05:51 <Ukto>	and no response
Dec 29 14:06:04 <Ukto>	mostly just json blockchain infos
Dec 29 14:06:11 <kakobreklaa>	i use it too
Dec 29 14:06:15 <kakobreklaa>	but i havent had any issues
Dec 29 14:06:24 <Ukto>	ill have todig it up
Dec 29 14:06:28 <Ukto>	1 sec
Dec 29 14:08:25 <Ukto>	try http://blockchain.info/rawblock/1551 then incriment it to block 1552
Dec 29 14:08:36 <Ukto>	their shit wont give block details above block 1551
Dec 29 14:08:49 <Ukto>	which is completely useless
Dec 29 14:09:09 <Ukto>	because it doesnt work
Dec 29 14:09:14 <Ukto>	I ended up doing a lot of work
Dec 29 14:09:18 <Ukto>	to get the same data
Dec 29 14:09:32 <Ukto>	thats just one of the issues
Dec 29 14:09:33 <kakobreklaa>	it works again for recent ones
Dec 29 14:09:37 <kakobreklaa>	win
Dec 29 14:10:01 <Ukto>	sigh
Dec 29 14:10:08 <Ukto>	so they just chose to not have data for the middle
Dec 29 14:10:35 <kakobreklaa>	no idea
Dec 29 14:10:56 <Ukto>	so it only urns on the last block
Dec 29 14:11:04 <Ukto>	otherwise it give syou non rawdata
Dec 29 14:11:06 <Ukto>	206 is there
Dec 29 14:11:16 <Ukto>	but anythen below the last block doesnt even give you a json error
Dec 29 14:11:18 <Ukto>	just a bunch of html
Dec 29 14:11:37 <Ukto>	its retarded as hell
Dec 29 14:11:44 <Ukto>	there are like 4 other things
Dec 29 14:11:48 <Ukto>	i can dig up later
Dec 29 14:11:54 <Ukto>	they just are not consistant enough
Dec 29 14:11:55 <kakobreklaa>	i use two calls
Dec 29 14:12:05 <kakobreklaa>	no prob so far
Dec 29 14:12:21 <Ukto>	that was teh most important one I needed
Dec 29 14:12:28 <Ukto>	and generally for blocks 2~6 blocks old
Dec 29 14:12:32 <kakobreklaa>	why did you need that
Dec 29 14:12:44 <Ukto>	simple way to verify random data :)
Dec 29 14:12:55 <Ukto>	for projects not yet public
Dec 29 14:12:56 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 29 14:14:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2961 @ 0.000638 = 1.8891 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 14:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.000638 = 5.8696 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 15:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.000638 = 6.9542 BTC [-]
Dec 29 15:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.000638 = 6.8904 BTC [-]
Dec 29 15:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6403 @ 0.000638 = 4.0851 BTC [-]
Dec 29 15:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6178 @ 0.000638 = 3.9416 BTC [-]
Dec 29 15:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8759 @ 0.000638 = 5.5882 BTC [-]
Dec 29 15:53:45 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 29 15:53:56 <thestringpuller>	were the dividends not large enough?
Dec 29 15:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	there was a large-ish buy right before
Dec 29 15:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	went on sale immediately after
Dec 29 16:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.000638 = 3.509 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 16:10:17 <thestringpuller>	heh
Dec 29 16:10:21 <thestringpuller>	the whale strikes again
Dec 29 16:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.000638 = 4.466 BTC [-]
Dec 29 16:20:50 <Diablo-D3>	being sick sucks
Dec 29 16:21:04 <Diablo-D3>	as far as I can tell, everyone who got a flu shot this year eventually gets this
Dec 29 16:21:30 <Diablo-D3>	its not in the flu shot I dont think, its some combination of whats in the shot and whats out there
Dec 29 16:21:48 <Diablo-D3>	anyone who didnt get a shot either didnt get this or has full blown flu
Dec 29 16:22:42 <Namjies>	Can't it be plain cold if it's not full blown flu you have?
Dec 29 16:22:55 <Diablo-D3>	no, I dont get colds. ever.
Dec 29 16:23:06 <Diablo-D3>	and flu is basically leathal for me
Dec 29 16:23:32 <Namjies>	How can you know it's not cold =/
Dec 29 16:24:17 <Diablo-D3>	I dont get colds. ever. I thought I said this.
Dec 29 16:26:07 <Namjies>	That's not a good arguments. You can't claim you're immune to every cold virus.
Dec 29 16:27:01 <Diablo-D3>	its a tradeoff from having allergies
Dec 29 16:30:11 <markedathome>	Discuss: web forums are the biggest step back in communications. They are bloated 2MBs of information per page for what should be approx 1-2000 words
Dec 29 16:30:28 <markedathome>	bring back cosy/tin/trn/cix!
Dec 29 16:30:42 <mircea_popescu>	and mpex :D
Dec 29 16:30:47 <Diablo-D3>	markedathome: its not the concept of forums do that
Dec 29 16:30:51 <Diablo-D3>	*that do that
Dec 29 16:30:54 <Diablo-D3>	its the shitty forum software
Dec 29 16:31:12 <Namjies>	How do having allergies prevent cold? O.o
Dec 29 16:31:46 <markedathome>	?
Dec 29 16:32:48 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: can i do ignore, prioritise, highlight,kill a thread? I don't think so :-)
Dec 29 16:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Dec 29 16:33:45 <markedathome>	Diablo-D3: it is absolutely the forum concept. a bunch of fucking idjits came along and completely missed the good things about threading in nntp/cosy/cix/bix/well and "re-implemented"
Dec 29 16:33:50 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: it isnt supposed to, its a side effect
Dec 29 16:34:33 <markedathome>	and implemented all the bad. static pages built at each page request from a database...
Dec 29 16:35:48 <Diablo-D3>	markedathome: well thats the thing
Dec 29 16:36:07 <Diablo-D3>	the static page only needs to be about 200 bytes bigger than the content
Dec 29 16:36:08 <Namjies>	there's no such side-effect of allergies O.o
Dec 29 16:36:26 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: trust me, there is
Dec 29 16:37:24 <Namjies>	You're telling me the fact your immune system reacts to certain substances makes it non-reactive to the cold virus?
Dec 29 16:37:26 <markedathome>	huh huh, well it uses mysql/progres-sql/db-de-jour, and php! and perl! and python! and ruby! and whatever took the "designer's" fancy that day
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Dec 29 16:39:32 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: allergies are an overactive immune system
Dec 29 16:39:34 <markedathome>	i'm surprised that no one had implemented a json decoder in xml for a brainfuck interpreted client running on java for a 3 page forum thread on the use of vinegar for descaling kettles.
Dec 29 16:39:56 *	markedathome wonders if you can tell I'm annoyed.
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Dec 29 16:42:24 <Namjies>	Diablo-D3 so how does that makes you immune to cold?
Dec 29 16:42:39 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: it isnt supposed to
Dec 29 16:42:57 <Diablo-D3>	it just does for a lot of people who have severe allergies to stuff like trees and flowering plants
Dec 29 16:43:37 <Namjies>	Is that just an impression of yours or a scientifically recognized fact?
Dec 29 16:44:18 <Diablo-D3>	neither
Dec 29 16:44:30 <Diablo-D3>	a lot of allergen sufferers have noticed this
Dec 29 16:45:56 <Namjies>	It might just be that allergies and cold are hard to distinguish, having similar effects.
Dec 29 16:46:48 <Diablo-D3>	they're not similar
Dec 29 16:47:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 600 @ 0.2922464 = 175.3478 BTC [+]
Dec 29 16:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 900 @ 0.2479297 = 223.1367 BTC [+]
Dec 29 16:48:50 <Namjies>	[16:20] <Diablo-D3> being sick sucks
Dec 29 16:48:50 <Namjies>	[16:21] <Diablo-D3> as far as I can tell, everyone who got a flu shot this year eventually gets this
Dec 29 16:48:50 <Namjies>	[16:21] <Diablo-D3> its not in the flu shot I dont think, its some combination of whats in the shot and whats out there
Dec 29 16:48:54 <Namjies>	...
Dec 29 16:48:54 <Namjies>	[16:23] <Diablo-D3> and flu is basically leathal for me
Dec 29 16:49:26 <Namjies>	If that's not flu nor cold, what the hell is it then?
Dec 29 16:50:00 <Diablo-D3>	flu like symptoms
Dec 29 16:50:10 <Diablo-D3>	Ive never gotten it before
Dec 29 16:50:45 <Namjies>	Well might be your first ever cold... some people rarely get symptoms and usually have asymptomatic colds.
Dec 29 16:51:51 <Diablo-D3>	most likely not
Dec 29 16:54:50 <Namjies>	Well the two can be nearly identical, except for severity.
Dec 29 16:55:35 <Diablo-D3>	this feels like flu
Dec 29 16:55:40 <Diablo-D3>	Im just still alive
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Dec 29 16:55:56 <Namjies>	If you have flu, you'd probably be sick like hell. Colds already feel like hell sometimes.
Dec 29 16:56:21 <Diablo-D3>	no, when I was a kid and got the flu, I would be in bed sick for 2 weeks
Dec 29 16:56:26 <Diablo-D3>	and everything would hurt
Dec 29 16:56:34 <Diablo-D3>	and my nose would flow with snot constantly
Dec 29 16:56:42 <Diablo-D3>	its the curse of being a severe asthamtic
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Dec 29 16:57:34 <asa1024>	I have COPD and the docs wanted me to get a flu shot.  I passed on it.
Dec 29 16:58:04 <Namjies>	yes. Hence why I'm proposing cold... the symptoms are mostly identical, except for severity and headache/muscle aches which are more frequent with flu.
Dec 29 16:59:47 <Diablo-D3>	asa1024: trust me, get it
Dec 29 16:59:58 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: I have the headache and the muscle aches
Dec 29 17:00:00 <Diablo-D3>	just not as bad
Dec 29 17:00:03 <Diablo-D3>	ergo, flu light
Dec 29 17:00:19 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: and it seems people who haven gotten flu shots are getting it
Dec 29 17:00:22 <Diablo-D3>	so it seems to be flu related
Dec 29 17:00:34 <asa1024>	oh yeah?  well when it was pitched to me they didn't have any in stock
Dec 29 17:00:42 <Namjies>	So might be a weak flu or strong cold.
Dec 29 17:00:51 <Namjies>	Didn't you get flu shot and still have it?
Dec 29 17:00:56 <Diablo-D3>	asa1024: theres no reason for people not to get it
Dec 29 17:01:04 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: thats what Im saying
Dec 29 17:01:17 <Diablo-D3>	Namjies: its only among those who have gotten flu shots
Dec 29 17:01:49 <Namjies>	It seems unlikely to affect only those who have gotten flu shots.
Dec 29 17:02:14 <Diablo-D3>	so either they made the shot too strong, or theres something not quite right somewhere
Dec 29 17:02:20 <Namjies>	Unless the infection is due to flu shots themselves...
Dec 29 17:02:41 <Diablo-D3>	or its the zombie plague and we're all fucked\
Dec 29 17:06:04 <asa1024>	d00m!
Dec 29 17:06:13 <asa1024>	oh sorry wrong channel :D
Dec 29 17:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.000638 = 2.4244 BTC [-]
Dec 29 17:30:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 738 @ 0.0036 = 2.6568 BTC [+]
Dec 29 17:32:54 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: do you have the power to get me out if bitcoin newbie jail on bitcointalk.org? I've been browsing there for a while but haven't posted.
Dec 29 17:33:27 <pizzaman1337>	Specifically, I'd like to post on this thread saying I've had the same issue for x days: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133738.0
Dec 29 17:34:22 <kakobrekla>	pizzaman1337 sorry cant do that, try PMing theymos to unblock you
Dec 29 17:34:34 <pizzaman1337>	ok, thanks
Dec 29 17:34:35 <kakobrekla>	i dunno what is the post limit but i think its failry low
Dec 29 17:34:40 <pizzaman1337>	5
Dec 29 17:34:47 <kakobrekla>	post some shit around the forums
Dec 29 17:34:49 <kakobrekla>	it will be faster
Dec 29 17:34:52 <pizzaman1337>	But what am I going to post about? I'd hate to just spam
Dec 29 17:34:53 <kakobrekla>	:>
Dec 29 17:35:01 <pizzaman1337>	seems destructive
Dec 29 17:35:13 <pizzaman1337>	I'll find something...
Dec 29 17:35:20 <kakobrekla>	humm
Dec 29 17:36:16 <pizzaman1337>	there's a "please let me out" thread, I'll try that
Dec 29 17:36:25 <kakobrekla>	:D
Dec 29 17:38:05 <kakobrekla>	dunno, find a few threads where you can write at least one non offtopic sentence in and you are good
Dec 29 17:38:19 <kakobrekla>	should take a few min tops
Dec 29 17:42:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.000638 = 6.4119 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 17:45:27 <pizzaman1337>	ok, now I just need to wait a few hours, nbd
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Dec 29 17:54:34 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 29 17:54:34 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 57 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <smickles> blockchain.info can do a lot of things, apparently
Dec 29 17:55:06 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133829.0
Dec 29 17:55:08 <kakobrekla>	aww so cute
Dec 29 17:55:43 <kakobrekla>	im not going to through all that jazz.
Dec 29 18:22:43 <kakobrekla>	pizzaman1337 you should post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0;topicseen
Dec 29 18:22:53 <kakobrekla>	something like "darn it, too late again."
Dec 29 18:23:36 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: I can't post there until I'm out of jail
Dec 29 18:23:41 <pizzaman1337>	I can only post in the newbie section
Dec 29 18:23:43 <kakobrekla>	awww any time now
Dec 29 18:23:58 <pizzaman1337>	But I hit my limit of 5, I just need to wait for 4 hours to pass
Dec 29 18:24:03 <pizzaman1337>	I should have just let myself stay logged in
Dec 29 18:24:15 <pizzaman1337>	not like that will get me my BTC from campbx anyway...
Dec 29 18:24:32 <kakobrekla>	yeah, i hope that ends up ok
Dec 29 18:24:43 <kakobrekla>	seems kinda strange no answer and all
Dec 29 18:29:13 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, losing 150 BTC wouldn't be as fun as it sounds (not that it sounds fun...)
Dec 29 18:29:31 <pizzaman1337>	I should just use bitinstant next time and suck up the 4%
Dec 29 18:29:38 <pizzaman1337>	better than 100%
Dec 29 18:34:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6844 @ 0.000638 = 4.3665 BTC [-]
Dec 29 18:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3710 @ 0.000638 = 2.367 BTC [-]
Dec 29 18:38:06 <kakobrekla>	hum
Dec 29 18:38:30 <kakobrekla>	how about blockchain, i just saw today they offer the option to buy bitcoins
Dec 29 18:39:19 <kakobrekla>	there, smpake is shutdown, metapool and bitbet now use blockchain instead of gox, im ready to enter 2013 gox free
Dec 29 18:41:59 <pizzaman1337>	1 btc = 13.36
Dec 29 18:42:06 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Dec 29 18:42:07 <gribble>	1 BTC = 13.36400 U.S. dollars = 10.1073968 Euros
Dec 29 18:42:09 <kakobrekla>	ya
Dec 29 18:42:23 <pizzaman1337>	what is their exchange rate from?
Dec 29 18:42:24 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 29 18:42:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.36400, Best ask: 13.39933, Bid-ask spread: 0.03533, Last trade: 13.36400, 24 hour volume: 26155.21784806, 24 hour low: 13.27000, 24 hour high: 13.67000, 24 hour vwap: 13.48919
Dec 29 18:42:31 <kakobrekla>	whose?
Dec 29 18:42:36 <pizzaman1337>	blockchain
Dec 29 18:42:37 <kakobrekla>	gribble is tied to gox
Dec 29 18:42:43 <kakobrekla>	blockchain i dunno
Dec 29 18:42:47 <pizzaman1337>	it goes through bitinstant, but where does bitinstant get their coins?
Dec 29 18:42:54 <thestringpuller>	gox
Dec 29 18:43:03 <thestringpuller>	lol
Dec 29 18:44:00 <pizzaman1337>	where do you see that documented?
Dec 29 18:44:16 <pizzaman1337>	uh oh, bitinstant ssl error...
Dec 29 18:44:52 <kakobrekla>	im lookin at bitinstant
Dec 29 18:45:00 <kakobrekla>	but all i can see is deposit to exchange
Dec 29 18:45:15 <kakobrekla>	ah
Dec 29 18:45:20 <kakobrekla>	output to 'bitcoin address'
Dec 29 18:45:37 <pizzaman1337>	but it doesn't say where it comes from
Dec 29 18:45:54 <pizzaman1337>	they want to know my first and last name? :(
Dec 29 18:45:59 <thestringpuller>	yes
Dec 29 18:46:02 <thestringpuller>	okfac
Dec 29 18:46:03 <pizzaman1337>	Pizza Man
Dec 29 18:46:07 <kakobrekla>	:D
Dec 29 18:46:08 <thestringpuller>	ofac
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Dec 29 18:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9752 @ 0.000638 = 6.2218 BTC [-]
Dec 29 18:55:15 <pizzaman1337>	does blockchain.info make money on anything besides their mixer?
Dec 29 19:00:31 <kakobrekla>	not that i would know about
Dec 29 19:02:37 <pizzaman1337>	it's a nice site, they should find another way to monetize
Dec 29 19:03:08 <pizzaman1337>	speaking of that, are there any businesses that "need to exist" in the bitcoin world that would really help bitcoin?
Dec 29 19:06:22 <pizzaman1337>	it would be nice if it was easier to turn cash to btc and back...
Dec 29 19:06:35 <pizzaman1337>	the bitcoin debit card is really interesting for me for that reason
Dec 29 19:06:40 <pizzaman1337>	just got to an atm and pull out value
Dec 29 19:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4007 @ 0.000638 = 2.5565 BTC [-]
Dec 29 19:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3926 @ 0.00063988 = 2.5122 BTC [+]
Dec 29 19:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 nothing in the purvey of the average person with an internet connection, unfortunately.
Dec 29 19:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00063988 = 5.6309 BTC [+]
Dec 29 19:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9313 @ 0.00063988 = 5.9592 BTC [+]
Dec 29 19:21:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00063988 = 2.4315 BTC [+]
Dec 29 19:43:45 <pigeons>	;;rate Namjies 4
Dec 29 19:43:46 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Namjies has changed from 2 to 4.
Dec 29 19:45:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8446 @ 0.00063988 = 5.4044 BTC [+]
Dec 29 19:45:47 <thestringpuller>	pizzaman1337: good luck getting the banks on your side pizzaman1337 bitcoin liquidity isn't really an issue anymore
Dec 29 19:48:05 <Bugpowder>	pizza, coins are easy to get
Dec 29 19:50:27 <pigeons>	;;rate Namjies 4 repaid 1 month 100 btc loan great to deal with
Dec 29 19:50:28 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Namjies has changed from 4 to 4.
Dec 29 19:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7232 @ 0.00063988 = 4.6276 BTC [+]
Dec 29 19:59:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00063988 = 5.567 BTC [+]
Dec 29 20:02:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063988 = 2.5915 BTC [+]
Dec 29 20:20:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00063988 = 4.9911 BTC [+]
Dec 29 20:24:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00357926 = 7.1585 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 20:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00063988 = 8.6384 BTC [+]
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Dec 29 20:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00063988 = 13.9494 BTC [+]
Dec 29 20:46:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00063988 = 1.3437 BTC [+]
Dec 29 20:46:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.10579371 BTC [+]
Dec 29 20:46:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.16041482 BTC [-]
Dec 29 20:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2211 @ 0.00063988 = 1.4148 BTC [+]
Dec 29 20:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.13653422 BTC [+]
Dec 29 20:47:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.12667655 BTC [+]
Dec 29 20:47:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.09470433 BTC [+]
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Dec 29 21:06:33 <Namjies>	Anyone knows how to precisely schedule dividends for 0:00 GMT on BTCT.co?
Dec 29 21:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00063988 = 4.4792 BTC [+]
Dec 29 21:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.105975 BTC [+]
Dec 29 21:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.16007948 BTC [-]
Dec 29 21:16:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.13677851 BTC [+]
Dec 29 21:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.12622478 BTC [-]
Dec 29 21:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3415 @ 0.00063988 = 2.1852 BTC [+]
Dec 29 21:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00063988 = 6.6548 BTC [+]
Dec 29 21:26:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00063988 = 4.7031 BTC [+]
Dec 29 21:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00353938 = 1.4158 BTC [-]
Dec 29 21:34:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13296 @ 0.00063988 = 8.5078 BTC [+]
Dec 29 21:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00063988 = 3.5833 BTC [+]
Dec 29 21:44:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.10590116 BTC [-]
Dec 29 21:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.1600014 BTC [-]
Dec 29 21:45:06 <Namjies>	Ah well... I just transferred the first BTC-BONDs to BTCT.co and user goes around selling them for 0.008 each. Would have liked to buy them back =/
Dec 29 21:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.13670042 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 21:45:30 <smickles>	Namjies: such is the rational market
Dec 29 21:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.12614989 BTC [-]
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Dec 29 21:47:46 <Namjies>	Well people never contact me and make the request for the 0.01 BTC per bond buyback =/
Dec 29 21:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	why didn't youy put a buy order in ?
Dec 29 21:54:29 <Namjies>	I probably should have done that first.
Dec 29 21:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3433 @ 0.00063988 = 2.1967 BTC [+]
Dec 29 21:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4917 @ 0.00064 = 3.1469 BTC [+]
Dec 29 21:55:10 <Namjies>	I don't usually keep a bid wall tho, I use funds elsewhere.
Dec 29 21:55:21 <mircea_popescu>	ya but this sort of thing happens all the time
Dec 29 21:56:30 <Namjies>	Aye
Dec 29 21:58:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1034 @ 0.00346561 = 3.5834 BTC [-]
Dec 29 21:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00064 = 7.488 BTC [+]
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Dec 29 22:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00064 = 8.32 BTC [+]
Dec 29 22:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2989 @ 0.00064 = 1.913 BTC [+]
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Dec 29 22:33:55 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Dec 29 22:33:57 <Diablo-D3>	speaking of which
Dec 29 22:34:00 <Diablo-D3>	I should go pester ukto
Dec 29 22:34:21 <Diablo-D3>	I think I told him I got the final list
Dec 29 22:34:26 <Diablo-D3>	but I havent looked at it yet
Dec 29 22:34:29 <Ukto>	you did
Dec 29 22:34:32 <Ukto>	then i distracted you
Dec 29 22:34:36 <Ukto>	with useless bullshit
Dec 29 22:34:38 <Ukto>	that I finally got working
Dec 29 22:34:38 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 29 22:34:39 <Diablo-D3>	well no
Dec 29 22:34:54 <Diablo-D3>	then I spend the past 4 days alternating between dying and sleeping
Dec 29 22:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00064 = 5.376 BTC [+]
Dec 29 22:39:34 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: pester away heh, i did enough to you already :P
Dec 29 22:39:55 <Diablo-D3>	fucking mini-flu
Dec 29 22:41:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
Dec 29 22:47:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9221 @ 0.00064 = 5.9014 BTC [+]
Dec 29 22:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=1052&pagetype=90&pageid=6347
Dec 29 22:48:20 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda funny to read
Dec 29 22:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	from a btc perspective.
Dec 29 22:48:28 <mircea_popescu>	reads almost like the forum
Dec 29 22:49:03 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, how would that work
Dec 29 22:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	they have a list of failures too
Dec 29 22:58:46 <Diablo-D3>	sigh.
Dec 29 22:58:48 <Diablo-D3>	what an asshole.
Dec 29 22:58:54 <Diablo-D3>	james swapped formats to csv
Dec 29 22:59:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10377 @ 0.00064 = 6.6413 BTC [+]
Dec 29 23:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00064 = 3.552 BTC [+]
Dec 29 23:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 804 @ 0.00353458 = 2.8418 BTC [+]
Dec 29 23:09:33 <Diablo-D3>	I guess the count is close enough
Dec 29 23:09:41 <Diablo-D3>	11648
Dec 29 23:12:19 <pizzaman1337>	Buglouse: maybe I just have the impression coins are that easy to get because campbx.com is holding on to mine...
Dec 29 23:12:33 <pizzaman1337>	bugpowder*
Dec 29 23:12:37 <pizzaman1337>	who is apparently gone now, so nvm
Dec 29 23:26:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16684 @ 0.00064 = 10.6778 BTC [+]
Dec 29 23:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00064 = 14.72 BTC [+]
Dec 29 23:40:20 *	RBecker has quit (Quit: You care. You're there for me.  You love me so much, and I never want to let it go.  You are the one truly amazing person. MDR 3/6/11 <3)
Dec 29 23:41:12 *	RBecker (~Ryan@unaffiliated/rbecker) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 29 23:42:21 <pigeons>	aww how sweet
Dec 29 23:42:35 <pigeons>	your quit message RBecker
Dec 29 23:42:51 <RBecker>	i thought i pinged O.o
Dec 29 23:43:27 <RBecker>	but thank you
Dec 29 23:43:27 <pigeons>	one day i won't hate people who are happy
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Dec 29 23:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	apparently, there's a bad vice.com article about everything
Dec 29 23:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how many cents this experiment in becoming the new about.com actually cost.
Dec 29 23:54:24 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Dec 29 23:57:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4692 @ 0.00064 = 3.0029 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 00:20:54 *	coingenuity is now known as gribbIe
Dec 30 00:21:02 *	gribbIe is now known as coingenuity
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Dec 30 00:23:11 *	gribbIe is now known as coingenuity
Dec 30 00:24:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3576 @ 0.00064 = 2.2886 BTC [+]
Dec 30 00:30:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00064 = 1.216 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 00:42:22 <Bugpowder>	looks like S.DICE is up to +20,000 this month now
Dec 30 00:42:30 <mircea_popescu>	- http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin	372	372
Dec 30 00:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	- http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php	444	444
Dec 30 00:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	funny, sa owns reddit.
Dec 30 00:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	whodda thunk it.
Dec 30 00:43:04 <Bugpowder>	those links are busted
Dec 30 00:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	whadda ya mean ?
Dec 30 00:43:50 <Bugpowder>	they don't work
Dec 30 00:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	they're reflinks
Dec 30 00:48:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7687 @ 0.00064 = 4.9197 BTC [+]
Dec 30 00:52:07 *	Bugpowder has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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Dec 30 00:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00064 = 6.24 BTC [+]
Dec 30 00:55:57 *	drug_motor (~LHC@c-50-133-173-172.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 30 01:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00064 = 2.976 BTC [+]
Dec 30 01:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00064 = 5.184 BTC [+]
Dec 30 01:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+]
Dec 30 01:26:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00064 = 7.968 BTC [+]
Dec 30 01:29:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00064 = 0.512 BTC [+]
Dec 30 01:37:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00064 = 17.856 BTC [+]
Dec 30 01:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 34 @ 0.00357926 = 0.1217 BTC [+]
Dec 30 01:50:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 357 @ 0.0036 = 1.2852 BTC [+]
Dec 30 01:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9677 @ 0.00064 = 6.1933 BTC [+]
Dec 30 01:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4866 @ 0.00064 = 3.1142 BTC [+]
Dec 30 02:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064 = 5.312 BTC [+]
Dec 30 02:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00064 = 5.536 BTC [+]
Dec 30 02:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00064 = 5.088 BTC [+]
Dec 30 02:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00064 = 5.536 BTC [+]
Dec 30 02:15:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00064 = 5.888 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 02:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6191 @ 0.00064 = 3.9622 BTC [+]
Dec 30 02:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1546 @ 0.00357069 = 5.5203 BTC [-]
Dec 30 02:47:21 *	Diablo-D3 puts up the ukto signal
Dec 30 02:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37700 @ 0.00064 = 24.128 BTC [+]
Dec 30 02:58:22 *	tonikt (~tonikt@unaffiliated/tonikt) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 30 03:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00064 = 3.648 BTC [+]
Dec 30 03:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00064 = 8.448 BTC [+]
Dec 30 03:24:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00064 = 8.064 BTC [+]
Dec 30 03:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6441 @ 0.00064 = 4.1222 BTC [+]
Dec 30 03:32:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00064 = 7.328 BTC [+]
Dec 30 03:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4354 @ 0.00064 = 2.7866 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 03:53:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00064 = 9.024 BTC [+]
Dec 30 03:58:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00064 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Dec 30 04:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00064 = 0.896 BTC [+]
Dec 30 04:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5271 @ 0.00064 = 3.3734 BTC [+]
Dec 30 04:08:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00064 = 4.16 BTC [+]
Dec 30 04:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00353103 = 0.7062 BTC [-]
Dec 30 04:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00064 = 2.368 BTC [+]
Dec 30 04:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4258 @ 0.00064 = 2.7251 BTC [+]
Dec 30 04:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16568 @ 0.00064 = 10.6035 BTC [+]
Dec 30 04:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2924 @ 0.00064 = 1.8714 BTC [+]
Dec 30 04:39:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00064 = 3.712 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 04:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00064 = 6.72 BTC [+]
Dec 30 04:55:08 *	midnightmagic (~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 30 04:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6832 @ 0.00064 = 4.3725 BTC [+]
Dec 30 05:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00064 = 9.184 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 05:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8004 @ 0.00064 = 5.1226 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 05:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 05:24:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00064 = 5.984 BTC [+]
Dec 30 05:27:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
Dec 30 05:33:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00064 = 1.216 BTC [+]
Dec 30 05:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00064 = 5.376 BTC [+]
Dec 30 05:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00064 = 7.808 BTC [+]
Dec 30 05:46:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00064 = 4.928 BTC [+]
Dec 30 05:54:17 *	midnightmagic (~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 30 05:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7585 @ 0.00064 = 4.8544 BTC [+]
Dec 30 06:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42450 @ 0.00064 = 27.168 BTC [+]
Dec 30 06:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00064 = 7.456 BTC [+]
Dec 30 06:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6598 @ 0.00064 = 4.2227 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 06:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00064 = 6.208 BTC [+]
Dec 30 07:06:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00064 = 8.512 BTC [+]
Dec 30 07:09:33 *	UncleScrooge (~UncleScro@199.26.85.34) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 30 07:12:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00064 = 2.624 BTC [+]
Dec 30 07:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00064 = 14.848 BTC [+]
Dec 30 07:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00064 = 1.024 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 07:42:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00064 = 5.44 BTC [+]
Dec 30 07:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3814 @ 0.00353103 = 13.4673 BTC [-]
Dec 30 07:47:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00355706 = 4.9799 BTC [+]
Dec 30 07:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2954 @ 0.00357882 = 10.5718 BTC [+]
Dec 30 07:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8460 @ 0.0036 = 30.456 BTC [+]
Dec 30 07:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064 = 7.04 BTC [+]
Dec 30 07:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26867 @ 0.00064 = 17.1949 BTC [+]
Dec 30 08:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2145 @ 0.00064 = 1.3728 BTC [+]
Dec 30 08:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4740 @ 0.00064 = 3.0336 BTC [+]
Dec 30 08:22:51 *	Bugpowder (47ab6a02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.171.106.2) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 30 08:26:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1193 @ 0.00355584 = 4.2421 BTC [-]
Dec 30 08:28:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00064 = 9.792 BTC [+]
Dec 30 08:28:56 <Bugpowder>	nice... buying volume starting to pick up on S.DICE again
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Dec 30 08:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00064 = 9.504 BTC [+]
Dec 30 08:47:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8867 @ 0.00064 = 5.6749 BTC [+]
Dec 30 08:53:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00064 = 7.936 BTC [+]
Dec 30 08:54:39 *	tonikt (~tonikt@unaffiliated/tonikt) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 30 09:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00064 = 15.04 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:06:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12386 @ 0.00064 = 7.927 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00064 = 3.936 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:17:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8941 @ 0.00064 = 5.7222 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7704 @ 0.00064 = 4.9306 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00064 = 4.8 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6799 @ 0.00064 = 4.3514 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00064 = 6.752 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00064 = 3.36 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:45:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00064 = 5.6 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:45:19 *	copumpkin (~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 30 09:51:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00064 = 1.024 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:53:27 *	Fiddle (~Fiddle@dslb-188-101-237-224.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 30 09:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00064 = 16 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:58:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00357778 = 1.4311 BTC [+]
Dec 30 09:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1007 @ 0.00355584 = 3.5807 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.0034757 = 1.2165 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1316 @ 0.00346561 = 4.5607 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:58:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1498 @ 0.00346013 = 5.1833 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:58:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 628 @ 0.00345868 = 2.1721 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4801 @ 0.00343244 = 16.4791 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00063914 = 3.4194 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00063907 = 6.7741 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00063893 = 4.6003 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1979 @ 0.00063817 = 1.2629 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8048 @ 0.00063794 = 5.1341 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00063773 = 6.8875 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00063768 = 2.0406 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00063761 = 2.1679 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00063747 = 3.8567 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6807 @ 0.00063742 = 4.3389 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11883 @ 0.00063741 = 7.5743 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00063741 = 12.4614 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00063738 = 11.8553 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8063 @ 0.00063727 = 5.1383 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39700 @ 0.00063715 = 25.2949 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00063701 = 7.9945 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15884 @ 0.00063683 = 10.1154 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6453 @ 0.00063683 = 4.1095 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063683 = 1.5921 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00063677 = 4.9031 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00063676 = 6.7815 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00063675 = 4.3936 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5423 @ 0.00063671 = 3.4529 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00063667 = 7.6719 BTC [-]
Dec 30 09:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3737 @ 0.00063665 = 2.3792 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00063658 = 11.8086 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6724 @ 0.00063649 = 4.2798 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00063646 = 2.6731 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063643 = 0.6364 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00063618 = 12.7872 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7908 @ 0.00063617 = 5.0308 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00063605 = 3.7527 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9448 @ 0.00063604 = 6.0093 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8396 @ 0.00063602 = 5.34 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063595 = 2.5756 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00063582 = 1.0173 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2735 @ 0.00063574 = 1.7387 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00063571 = 2.7336 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00063564 = 1.6844 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063529 = 2.0965 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6769 @ 0.00063515 = 4.2993 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.0006351 = 5.6524 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063503 = 4.0007 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10409 @ 0.00063503 = 6.61 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2303 @ 0.00063502 = 1.4625 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00063496 = 5.5876 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00063485 = 7.4912 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39850 @ 0.00063483 = 25.298 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00063469 = 1.2694 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5560 @ 0.00063469 = 3.5289 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3473 @ 0.00063468 = 2.2042 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 671 @ 0.00063467 = 0.4259 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00063461 = 1.65 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00063457 = 2.0624 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5806 @ 0.00063457 = 3.6843 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00063456 = 4.6323 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00063454 = 2.5382 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14926 @ 0.00063452 = 9.4708 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00063439 = 4.6945 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00063434 = 9.0076 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11983 @ 0.00063433 = 7.6012 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00063423 = 3.8054 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2967 @ 0.00063415 = 1.8815 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29096 @ 0.00063406 = 18.4486 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00063396 = 2.2823 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00063391 = 13.3438 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00063377 = 5.2603 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00063358 = 5.5121 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00063353 = 6.6837 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00063351 = 2.5024 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1515 @ 0.0006335 = 0.9598 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00063342 = 15.2654 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0006333 = 4.4964 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00063327 = 7.2509 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00063313 = 7.376 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00063312 = 4.9383 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24750 @ 0.00063309 = 15.669 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063293 = 3.1647 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00063292 = 7.2153 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063288 = 6.3288 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00063281 = 3.6387 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11034 @ 0.00063273 = 6.9815 BTC [-]
Dec 30 10:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.0036 = 5.22 BTC [+]
Dec 30 10:11:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00064 = 7.936 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 10:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13591 @ 0.00064 = 8.6982 BTC [+]
Dec 30 10:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00064 = 15.104 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 10:29:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00064 = 4.224 BTC [+]
Dec 30 10:38:09 *	Luceo_ (~Luc3o@gateway/tor-sasl/luceo) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Dec 30 10:40:41 <mircea_popescu>	who is countsparkle ?!
Dec 30 10:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2094 @ 0.00064 = 1.3402 BTC [+]
Dec 30 10:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4399 @ 0.00064 = 2.8154 BTC [+]
Dec 30 10:52:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23144 @ 0.00064 = 14.8122 BTC [+]
Dec 30 10:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00064 = 7.008 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 11:14:21 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: do you ever sell?
Dec 30 11:14:58 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: could I pay you to come up with business ideas
Dec 30 11:15:05 <thestringpuller>	since money makes da world go round
Dec 30 11:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	why would i need money ?
Dec 30 11:15:39 <pigeons>	ooh i have an idea
Dec 30 11:15:42 <thestringpuller>	You charge for your blog
Dec 30 11:15:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1366 @ 0.00064 = 0.8742 BTC [+]
Dec 30 11:15:45 <Bugpowder>	I will sell bitcoin ceurities
Dec 30 11:15:45 <thestringpuller>	:)
Dec 30 11:15:58 <pigeons>	how about a business that comes up with business ideas for thestringpuller
Dec 30 11:16:04 <thestringpuller>	:D
Dec 30 11:16:11 <thestringpuller>	I like that idea pigeons
Dec 30 11:16:16 <pigeons>	13KFuRvwqQ5ZCyDAuqopYcUCXgGpdoRR14
Dec 30 11:16:43 <thestringpuller>	You get .1 btc
Dec 30 11:16:57 <thestringpuller>	:P (not)
Dec 30 11:17:01 <pigeons>	:)
Dec 30 11:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	wait, you were going to pay me bitcents to come up with business ideas ?
Dec 30 11:18:01 <thestringpuller>	That's about how much you're worth right? (sarcasm)
Dec 30 11:18:02 <Bugpowder>	unless the portfolio distribution gets so out of whack you can't rebalance via shifting distribution of future income, why sell?
Dec 30 11:18:24 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: that's the way I see MPOE atm
Dec 30 11:18:34 <Bugpowder>	It will be a bigger problem when I'm older and portfolio is much greater than income
Dec 30 11:18:52 <thestringpuller>	That's super long term though
Dec 30 11:18:57 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Dec 30 11:19:04 <Bugpowder>	which is how you invest
Dec 30 11:19:14 <Bugpowder>	goal = don't die poor
Dec 30 11:19:30 <Bugpowder>	for me, bitcoins are just fun :)
Dec 30 11:19:53 <Bugpowder>	and maybe they really will go >$100 someday
Dec 30 11:20:05 <Bugpowder>	and I will look like a genius to all my friends
Dec 30 11:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 30 11:20:23 <Bugpowder>	and make a few of them some money on the way
Dec 30 11:20:27 <mircea_popescu>	they will trade over 100 by 2015.
Dec 30 11:20:30 <pigeons>	i look like a genius to all my friends because i go to the dentist
Dec 30 11:21:36 <Bugpowder>	well, I hope I haven't lost all my coins by 2012
Dec 30 11:21:38 <Bugpowder>	2015
Dec 30 11:21:39 <Bugpowder>	then
Dec 30 11:22:51 <thestringpuller>	or unless some really really rich person comes in and manipulates the coins
Dec 30 11:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6385 @ 0.00064 = 4.0864 BTC [+]
Dec 30 11:23:07 *	thestringpuller looks at Mr. Popescu
Dec 30 11:24:16 <Bugpowder>	the hedgies don't believe in bitcoin yet
Dec 30 11:24:28 <Bugpowder>	if only there was a bitcoin ETF
Dec 30 11:24:33 <Bugpowder>	fuck that would drive the price up
Dec 30 11:26:27 <thestringpuller>	would it be legal though?
Dec 30 11:26:37 <thestringpuller>	that's all anyone cares about these days (sarcasm)
Dec 30 11:27:28 <pigeons>	bitcoins are more illegal than skateboards i say
Dec 30 11:27:28 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin is the BRK-A of currencies.
Dec 30 11:27:51 <thestringpuller>	skateboarding can be pretty illegal
Dec 30 11:27:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00064 = 8.736 BTC [+]
Dec 30 11:28:03 <thestringpuller>	especially when the cops come and say "son there is no skating here"
Dec 30 11:28:09 <pigeons>	;;google use a skate
Dec 30 11:28:10 <gribble>	Use skate in a sentence | skate sentence examples: <http://sentence.yourdictionary.com/skate>; Skateboarding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skateboarding>; How to Use a Skate Stone - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaQdmIyOZA4>
Dec 30 11:28:22 <pigeons>	;;google use a skate go to
Dec 30 11:28:23 <gribble>	Thrasher Skateboard Magazine | September 1988: <http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/magazine/september-1988/>; How To Skateboard: The Basics: <http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Skateboard%3A-The-Basics/>; Hockey Skate Guides: <http://www.purehockey.com/guidance-info/hockey-skate-guides>
Dec 30 11:28:34 <pigeons>	;;google "use a skate go to"
Dec 30 11:28:35 <gribble>	Thrasher Skateboard Magazine | September 1988: <http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/magazine/september-1988/>; How To Skateboard: The Basics: <http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Skateboard%3A-The-Basics/>; Hockey Skate Guides: <http://www.purehockey.com/guidance-info/hockey-skate-guides>
Dec 30 11:28:39 <pigeons>	oh well
Dec 30 11:28:41 <thestringpuller>	;;google use a skate to ollie
Dec 30 11:28:41 <gribble>	Ollie (skateboarding) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ollie_(skateboarding)>; How to Ollie on a Skateboard - Ollie Setup: <http://skateboard.about.com/od/tricktips/ss/HowToOllie.htm>; Ollie - Skateboarding Dictionary: <http://skateboard.about.com/od/skateboardingdictionary/g/GlosOllie.htm>
Dec 30 11:29:07 <pigeons>	son, no bitcoins here
Dec 30 11:30:19 <thestringpuller>	i can see an SEC official saying that
Dec 30 11:30:29 <thestringpuller>	why is cups so annoying
Dec 30 11:30:33 <thestringpuller>	OMG CUPS find my printer
Dec 30 11:36:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00064 = 9.408 BTC [+]
Dec 30 11:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00064 = 3.904 BTC [+]
Dec 30 11:43:52 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: what if a bunch of vendors just start accepting bitcoin? Wouldn't that as well drive the price up, albeit more slowly than a whale billionaire coming in.
Dec 30 11:44:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00064 = 1.216 BTC [+]
Dec 30 11:48:22 *	da2ce7_d (~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7) has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Dec 30 11:51:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00064 = 4.896 BTC [+]
Dec 30 11:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1289 @ 0.0036 = 4.6404 BTC [+]
Dec 30 11:56:03 <Bugpowder>	The only sustainable rise is from market acceptance
Dec 30 11:58:54 <thestringpuller>	there's only room in this town for once currency
Dec 30 11:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7412 @ 0.00064 = 4.7437 BTC [+]
Dec 30 11:59:02 <thestringpuller>	one*
Dec 30 12:04:10 <EskimoBob>	ART div is going out at 18:55 GMT
Dec 30 12:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00064 = 3.84 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:07:43 <thestringpuller>	ART is a scam
Dec 30 12:08:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8761 @ 0.00064 = 5.607 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00064 = 8.288 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7716 @ 0.00064 = 4.9382 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00064 = 0.512 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:14:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7129 @ 0.00064 = 4.5626 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:16:10 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller is a clueless troll :)
Dec 30 12:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00064 = 2.048 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:20:42 <thestringpuller>	I'm EskimoBob I'm so cool, I'm making ART and selling it for bitcoins
Dec 30 12:21:07 <thestringpuller>	I should take bets against BTC companies going bankrupt
Dec 30 12:21:08 <thestringpuller>	like yours
Dec 30 12:21:10 <thestringpuller>	:D
Dec 30 12:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7407 @ 0.00064 = 4.7405 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:25:14 <pigeons>	i will loan you ART shares
Dec 30 12:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8589 @ 0.00064 = 5.497 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:25:54 <thestringpuller>	I will short them and prove mah point :D
Dec 30 12:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00064 = 5.6 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:27:36 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: how's your cocoa business doing?
Dec 30 12:27:52 <pigeons>	ok write up a contract
Dec 30 12:27:54 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu  STAT is still fucked up for futures deposits
Dec 30 12:27:56 <pigeons>	how many shares ya want?
Dec 30 12:28:23 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: smickles is my broker we'll have to wait for him
Dec 30 12:28:28 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: if you is serious
Dec 30 12:28:36 <pigeons>	i am
Dec 30 12:29:07 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: cocoa who said anything about cocoa?
Dec 30 12:29:26 <thestringpuller>	sudo apt-get install ghostscript-cups
Dec 30 12:29:28 <thestringpuller>	frak
Dec 30 12:29:45 <thestringpuller>	dude I hate cups so much
Dec 30 12:29:53 <thestringpuller>	this makes me NOT want to use linux anymore
Dec 30 12:30:44 <pigeons>	cat document | lpr
Dec 30 12:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder looking
Dec 30 12:32:38 <thestringpuller>	yea but it keeps returning Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported: Unsupported format
Dec 30 12:32:50 <Bugpowder>	set details
Dec 30 12:32:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00064 = 15.04 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:32:59 <thestringpuller>	omg
Dec 30 12:33:05 <thestringpuller>	i just want to print out sheet music for my lesson
Dec 30 12:33:07 <thestringpuller>	WHHHYYY
Dec 30 12:33:37 *	thestringpuller throws a temper tantrum
Dec 30 12:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder check.
Dec 30 12:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:39:20 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I have an offer you can't refuse
Dec 30 12:39:24 <mircea_popescu>	aha ?
Dec 30 12:39:45 <thestringpuller>	I will send you a brainwashed scarlett johansen for 10mn shares of MPOE
Dec 30 12:42:42 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119628.msg1426412#new
Dec 30 12:47:30 <thestringpuller>	mwahahahaha
Dec 30 12:47:57 <Diablo-D3>	brainwashed? meh
Dec 30 12:48:04 <Diablo-D3>	I prefer them feisty
Dec 30 12:48:05 <Bugpowder>	mircea+popescu Looks fixed
Dec 30 12:48:28 <thestringpuller>	he probably has fiddy bitches dat hotter than dat blonde
Dec 30 12:48:32 <Diablo-D3>	https://github.com/ircmaxell/PHPPHP
Dec 30 12:48:43 <Diablo-D3>	end of the world, it was late, but here it is
Dec 30 12:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064 = 7.296 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00064 = 7.968 BTC [+]
Dec 30 12:56:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7908 @ 0.00064 = 5.0611 BTC [+]
Dec 30 13:01:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00064 = 4.8 BTC [+]
Dec 30 13:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder appreciate the headsup.
Dec 30 13:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00064 = 4.096 BTC [+]
Dec 30 13:11:31 <Bugpowder>	ur welcome
Dec 30 13:12:02 <kakobrekla>	ur mom
Dec 30 13:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	urchin
Dec 30 13:17:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13975 @ 0.00064 = 8.944 BTC [+]
Dec 30 13:30:27 <Bugpowder>	evoorhees pimpin' S.DICE on the forum
Dec 30 13:30:47 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1426516#msg1426516
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Dec 30 13:39:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [+]
Dec 30 13:45:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
Dec 30 13:52:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00064 = 4.288 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 14:03:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00064 = 6.816 BTC [+]
Dec 30 14:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.0006392 = 13.1036 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14570 @ 0.00063906 = 9.3111 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10772 @ 0.00063883 = 6.8815 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00063849 = 1.8516 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00063805 = 6.8909 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4320 @ 0.00063695 = 2.7516 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00063488 = 5.9996 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00063485 = 3.9043 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00063418 = 5.5808 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10358 @ 0.00063406 = 6.5676 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00063385 = 6.8456 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.0006334 = 5.4472 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00063306 = 11.585 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12516 @ 0.00063273 = 7.9192 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00063271 = 4.429 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7322 @ 0.00063264 = 4.6322 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00063247 = 8.9811 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00063231 = 5.3114 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00063228 = 6.2912 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31158 @ 0.00063203 = 19.6928 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7576 @ 0.000632 = 4.788 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063195 = 2.5594 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00063193 = 5.5926 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.0006319 = 13.3331 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00063172 = 1.7372 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9740 @ 0.0006317 = 6.1528 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00063153 = 5.3049 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.0006315 = 13.8299 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00063147 = 3.8204 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00063124 = 2.6828 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00063104 = 8.5821 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00063102 = 6.2155 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6796 @ 0.00063089 = 4.2875 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8756 @ 0.00063089 = 5.5241 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00063084 = 3.4065 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9690 @ 0.00063071 = 6.1116 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3640 @ 0.00063055 = 2.2952 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9934 @ 0.00063048 = 6.2632 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00063048 = 3.1209 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9591 @ 0.00063044 = 6.0466 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00063034 = 4.9167 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00063034 = 4.8851 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00063032 = 2.4267 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00063023 = 1.8592 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00063012 = 1.6383 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00063011 = 7.3093 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6279 @ 0.00062996 = 3.9555 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00062978 = 5.3216 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:07 <Bugpowder>	looks like the bot owner just realized what was happening :)
Dec 30 14:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00062965 = 2.3612 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062957 = 6.9882 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00062953 = 8.8764 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:10 <pigeons>	tax purposes
Dec 30 14:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062942 = 4.5318 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00062908 = 7.6119 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062906 = 6.1648 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00062904 = 3.4283 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7303 @ 0.000629 = 4.5936 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062898 = 2.7675 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062894 = 2.956 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00062893 = 8.3962 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14234 @ 0.00062892 = 8.952 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00062887 = 4.9052 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7135 @ 0.00062876 = 4.4862 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13230 @ 0.00062876 = 8.3185 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.0006287 = 5.6897 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.0006286 = 6.726 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00062851 = 2.2312 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8730 @ 0.00062849 = 5.4867 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14872 @ 0.00062845 = 9.3463 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00062841 = 6.0642 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7633 @ 0.00062841 = 4.7967 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24805 @ 0.00062841 = 15.5877 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00062823 = 6.4079 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062822 = 4.1463 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00062816 = 5.7791 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00062809 = 8.1652 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00062806 = 18.9046 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18592 @ 0.00062796 = 11.675 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:36 <pigeons>	shit i have no money in mpex to buy up
Dec 30 14:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00062788 = 7.6915 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00062781 = 19.9016 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.0006278 = 16.825 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00062777 = 6.0894 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12240 @ 0.00062772 = 7.6833 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.00062771 = 16.7285 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0006277 = 1.632 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00062768 = 6.5279 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24966 @ 0.00062763 = 15.6694 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00062751 = 4.0161 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00062743 = 0.8157 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00062732 = 5.9595 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00062729 = 3.9833 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13028 @ 0.0006272 = 8.1712 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3136 @ 0.00062715 = 1.9667 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00062712 = 7.0237 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4840 @ 0.00062708 = 3.0351 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00062706 = 6.2079 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9904 @ 0.00062705 = 6.2103 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00062698 = 10.2198 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00062695 = 8.1504 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.0006269 = 9.0901 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00062687 = 21.7524 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00062686 = 7.8984 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00062672 = 6.3612 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43950 @ 0.00062669 = 27.543 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00062663 = 5.201 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00062654 = 4.1665 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00062644 = 7.8305 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9688 @ 0.00062641 = 6.0687 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29097 @ 0.0006264 = 18.2264 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2722 @ 0.00062636 = 1.705 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0006262 = 16.5943 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6278 @ 0.00062619 = 3.9312 BTC [-]
Dec 30 14:09:47 <Bugpowder>	ask is still 64000
Dec 30 14:09:53 <pigeons>	oh
Dec 30 14:10:21 <pigeons>	!ticker S.MPOE
Dec 30 14:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00062616 / 0.00063518 / 0.00064 (3479023 shares, 2,209.83 BTC), 30day: 0.00050368 / 0.00057298 / 0.00064 (74518119 shares, 42,697.42 BTC)
Dec 30 14:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	jesus two pages of this it moved .x%
Dec 30 14:10:46 <Bugpowder>	about 1.5MM
Dec 30 14:10:50 <Bugpowder>	shares
Dec 30 14:11:00 <Bugpowder>	1.5MM to go
Dec 30 14:11:11 <Bugpowder>	2MM
Dec 30 14:11:14 <pigeons>	enough of that, release the volatility!
Dec 30 14:11:18 <Bugpowder>	ha
Dec 30 14:14:18 <Bugpowder>	"‘Major setback’ in fiscal cliff talks"  Yesss.
Dec 30 14:14:48 <Bugpowder>	ES down 26.70 after hours... probably more tomorrow
Dec 30 14:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	it's never happening, thatdeal.
Dec 30 14:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135318385329.jpg and here's a girl with a pachiderm
Dec 30 14:32:07 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 30 14:32:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45000, Best ask: 13.45006, Bid-ask spread: 0.00006, Last trade: 13.45006, 24 hour volume: 7984.25471044, 24 hour low: 13.35000, 24 hour high: 13.50000, 24 hour vwap: 13.42313
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Dec 30 15:30:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00064 = 3.296 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 15:32:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7052 @ 0.00064 = 4.5133 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 15:59:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2347 @ 0.00064 = 1.5021 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 16:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4808 @ 0.00064 = 3.0771 BTC [+]
Dec 30 16:06:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3858 @ 0.00064 = 2.4691 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 16:12:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00064 = 4.064 BTC [+]
Dec 30 16:13:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00064 = 1.152 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 16:36:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00064 = 16.352 BTC [+]
Dec 30 16:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064 = 7.296 BTC [+]
Dec 30 16:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00348516 = 5.2277 BTC [-]
Dec 30 16:50:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1614 @ 0.0035004 = 5.6496 BTC [+]
Dec 30 16:50:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5219 @ 0.0036 = 18.7884 BTC [+]
Dec 30 16:52:34 <PsychoticBoy>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100521.msg1426675#msg1426675
Dec 30 16:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00064 = 4.8 BTC [+]
Dec 30 17:02:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00064 = 8.64 BTC [+]
Dec 30 17:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 54054 @ 0.0036 = 194.5944 BTC [+]
Dec 30 17:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12780 @ 0.00064 = 8.1792 BTC [+]
Dec 30 17:14:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00064 = 2.88 BTC [+]
Dec 30 17:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 30 17:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00343244 / 0.00357478 / 0.0036 (100846 shares, 360.50 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00307919 / 0.0037 (8771555 shares, 27,009.29 BTC)
Dec 30 17:19:18 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I noticed a hilight from you?
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Dec 30 17:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00347687 = 4.5199 BTC [-]
Dec 30 17:50:27 *	Ukto highlights smickles :P
Dec 30 17:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00347687 = 2.4338 BTC [-]
Dec 30 17:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4752 @ 0.00064 = 3.0413 BTC [+]
Dec 30 17:52:14 *	smickles fruktose
Dec 30 17:57:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9479 @ 0.00064 = 6.0666 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:02:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 756 @ 0.00064 = 0.4838 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5380 @ 0.00064 = 3.4432 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 18:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00064 = 2.528 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00064 = 6.048 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00064 = 3.072 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 18:21:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00064 = 1.248 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00064 = 4.128 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00064 = 9.984 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 18:37:56 <Ukto>	you know.. i havent see goat on irc lately..
Dec 30 18:38:00 <Ukto>	chang... you there?
Dec 30 18:38:00 <Ukto>	hiding?
Dec 30 18:38:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00064 = 3.2384 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00064 = 1.28 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00064 = 3.616 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00064 = 4.832 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:52:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2140 @ 0.0036 = 7.704 BTC [+]
Dec 30 18:55:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00064 = 6.848 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 19:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00064 = 2.272 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 20:05:01 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 30 20:05:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.47001, Best ask: 13.49500, Bid-ask spread: 0.02499, Last trade: 13.36634, 24 hour volume: 11919.39373294, 24 hour low: 13.35000, 24 hour high: 13.59000, 24 hour vwap: 13.45637
Dec 30 20:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2165 @ 0.00064 = 1.3856 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 20:24:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3457 @ 0.0036 = 12.4452 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:24:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0036128 = 5.4192 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:24:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2061 @ 0.00364366 = 7.5096 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:24:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00365195 = 2.1912 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:24:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 184750 @ 0.0036675 = 677.5706 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:24:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 385000 @ 0.00368 = 1416.8 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:24:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 98307 @ 0.00369 = 362.7528 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:25:54 <Bugpowder>	YEAHHHH
Dec 30 20:26:18 <Bugpowder>	dats what I'm talkin about
Dec 30 20:26:58 <Bugpowder>	only 10,000 BTC to go
Dec 30 20:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Dec 30 20:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dicer
Dec 30 20:27:18 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Dec 30 20:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 30 20:27:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00343244 / 0.00366364 / 0.00369 (777923 shares, 2,850.03 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0031218 / 0.0037 (9438672 shares, 29,465.71 BTC)
Dec 30 20:32:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 349193 @ 0.00369 = 1288.5222 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:32:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 191347 @ 0.0036999 = 707.9648 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	ok, at this rate 10k will be gone by new year's
Dec 30 20:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 68558 @ 0.0036999 = 253.6577 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 20:41:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41704471 = 417.0447 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.49178391 = 491.7839 BTC [+]
Dec 30 20:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 30 20:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00343244 / 0.00367707 / 0.0036999 (1387021 shares, 5,100.18 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0031565 / 0.0037 (10047770 shares, 31,715.85 BTC)
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Dec 30 20:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	is blockchain.info down ?
Dec 30 20:45:55 <kakobrekla>	flushdns
Dec 30 20:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Dec 30 20:47:38 <kakobrekla>	you shold resolve to 91.203.74.204
Dec 30 20:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	jesus it's been nasty with dns's the past week
Dec 30 20:47:39 <kakobrekla>	not 203
Dec 30 20:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00064 = 5.216 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:09:10 <Ukto>	anyone seen goat?
Dec 30 21:14:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:14:49 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3 ?
Dec 30 21:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00064 = 2.688 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 3 @ 0.18636531 = 0.5591 BTC [-]
Dec 30 21:25:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.10171553 BTC [-]
Dec 30 21:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.1571495 BTC [-]
Dec 30 21:26:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:26:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:26:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 4 @ 0.16782549 = 0.6713 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.09210954 BTC [-]
Dec 30 21:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 2 @ 0.20838298 = 0.4168 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41704471 = 417.0447 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.49178391 = 491.7839 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:35:09 <Bugpowder>	finally some action this weekend
Dec 30 21:35:16 <Ukto>	u get some action? :P
Dec 30 21:35:21 <Bugpowder>	or week
Dec 30 21:35:23 <Bugpowder>	actually
Dec 30 21:35:44 <Bugpowder>	yeah I just bot 2 options
Dec 30 21:35:51 <Bugpowder>	yesss
Dec 30 21:38:41 <thestringpuller>	15 is gonna be the key number I think
Dec 30 21:38:49 <thestringpuller>	We'll push past 14
Dec 30 21:39:03 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Dec 30 21:39:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37397, Best ask: 13.46467, Bid-ask spread: 0.09070, Last trade: 13.37394, 24 hour volume: 11910.87556799, 24 hour low: 13.35000, 24 hour high: 13.59000, 24 hour vwap: 13.46368
Dec 30 21:39:22 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 30 21:39:23 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 47 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: * smickles fruktose
Dec 30 21:40:58 <Namjies>	What's the MPSIC for BTC?
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Dec 30 21:43:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15504577 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:44:26 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yo
Dec 30 21:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:44:41 <smickles>	Namjies: there is not mpsic for btc
Dec 30 21:45:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17406879 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:45:28 <smickles>	Namjies: however, stat reports btc as CxBTC
Dec 30 21:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15500665 BTC [-]
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Dec 30 21:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:54:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17402496 BTC [-]
Dec 30 21:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064 = 2.752 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15500665 BTC [-]
Dec 30 21:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 21:59:51 <Bugpowder>	;;TICKER
Dec 30 21:59:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45001, Best ask: 13.49880, Bid-ask spread: 0.04879, Last trade: 13.45001, 24 hour volume: 12002.95742282, 24 hour low: 13.35000, 24 hour high: 13.59000, 24 hour vwap: 13.46419
Dec 30 21:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 22:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17398581 BTC [-]
Dec 30 22:01:08 <Bugpowder>	Is there a web feed of 24 hour vwap that I can scrape from somewhere?
Dec 30 22:01:52 <Bugpowder>	I am scraping mtgox last price off bitcoincharts  which gives volativilty in my spreadsheet
Dec 30 22:02:19 <smickles>	Bugpowder: https://mtgox.com/api/1/BTCUSD/ticker ?
Dec 30 22:02:25 <smickles>	it has vwap in it
Dec 30 22:02:47 <smickles>	but bitcoincharts 24h vwap is different
Dec 30 22:03:07 <smickles>	it seems the bitcoincharts # is based on all exchanges
Dec 30 22:03:14 <Bugpowder>	yeah I don't care about thiers
Dec 30 22:03:24 <Bugpowder>	mtgox is what I want
Dec 30 22:03:30 <Bugpowder>	cause its a bigger number
Dec 30 22:03:35 <Bugpowder>	makes me feel more rich
Dec 30 22:03:46 <smickles>	heh
Dec 30 22:03:57 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 30 22:03:58 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
Dec 30 22:04:10 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 30 22:04:10 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
Dec 30 22:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00064 = 5.184 BTC [+]
Dec 30 22:11:31 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 30 22:11:32 <gribble>	13.42
Dec 30 22:11:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15493302 BTC [-]
Dec 30 22:12:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 22:12:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 22:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17394246 BTC [-]
Dec 30 22:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11996 @ 0.00064 = 7.6774 BTC [+]
Dec 30 22:13:38 <Bugpowder>	grrr
Dec 30 22:14:03 <smickles>	Bugpowder: grrr?
Dec 30 22:14:04 <Bugpowder>	its not in table or list format so I can't figure out how to pull it properly into the google doc.  any suggestions smiles?
Dec 30 22:14:12 <Bugpowder>	smikcles
Dec 30 22:14:17 <Bugpowder>	sigh
Dec 30 22:14:34 <smickles>	google doc can't handle json?
Dec 30 22:15:08 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Dec 30 22:15:13 <Bugpowder>	i will check
Dec 30 22:15:26 <Bugpowder>	it should
Dec 30 22:17:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3983 @ 0.00064 = 2.5491 BTC [+]
Dec 30 22:23:34 <Bugpowder>	I gotta write a sciprt to do it then
Dec 30 22:23:59 <Bugpowder>	I will figure this out later... mush watch this game
Dec 30 22:24:03 <leotreasure>	happy new years eve! https://soundcloud.com/djleo/deflationary-forces
Dec 30 22:24:03 <Bugpowder>	touchdown RGIII
Dec 30 22:24:42 <Bugpowder>	Thanks for the pointers
Dec 30 22:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	haha nice leotreasure
Dec 30 22:28:13 <leotreasure>	:) thanks mircea_popescu
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Dec 30 22:59:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 28 @ 0.0036999 = 0.1036 BTC [+]
Dec 30 23:02:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15474813 BTC [-]
Dec 30 23:03:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 23:03:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 23:04:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17373531 BTC [-]
Dec 30 23:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00064 = 1.408 BTC [+]
Dec 30 23:09:48 <Bugpowder>	TONY ROMO comes thru in the clutch
Dec 30 23:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41598735 = 415.9874 BTC [-]
Dec 30 23:11:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.49067089 = 490.6709 BTC [-]
Dec 30 23:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15433309 BTC [-]
Dec 30 23:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 23:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 23:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17399111 BTC [+]
Dec 30 23:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	smickles is that your bot doing p120 at .15 ?
Dec 30 23:15:46 <smickles>	hmm, yeah, apparently my volatility measure is up there
Dec 30 23:16:08 <smickles>	I'm mostly workin out other kinks right now tho
Dec 30 23:16:39 <smickles>	but 10.43 seems like a long way to go down to to break even on that
Dec 30 23:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	i c
Dec 30 23:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15433309 BTC [-]
Dec 30 23:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14318 @ 0.00064 = 9.1635 BTC [+]
Dec 30 23:17:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 23:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
Dec 30 23:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17399111 BTC [+]
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Dec 30 23:37:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41598735 = 415.9874 BTC [-]
Dec 30 23:37:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.49067089 = 490.6709 BTC [-]
Dec 30 23:37:40 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker O.BTCUSD.P200T
Dec 30 23:37:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1day: 0.49067089 / 0.4912274 / 0.49178391 (4000 shares, 1,964.91 BTC), 30day: 0.47526087 / 0.56767292 / 0.62061168 (18000 shares, 10,218.11 BTC)
Dec 30 23:38:39 <smickles>	4000 in the past 24hrs?
Dec 30 23:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	seems that way
Dec 30 23:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. im off for the day. take care all.
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Dec 30 23:44:55 <Diablo-D3>	[09:09:10] <Ukto> anyone seen goat?
Dec 30 23:45:03 <Diablo-D3>	no, he got tired of nefario's shit and ragequit
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Dec 31 00:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.25140424 BTC [+]
Dec 31 00:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 4 @ 0.18626115 = 0.745 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:06:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 11 @ 0.10107872 = 1.1119 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:07:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 4 @ 0.16 = 0.64 BTC [+]
Dec 31 00:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 11 @ 0.14 = 1.54 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 10 @ 0.132 = 1.32 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 3 @ 0.16699905 = 0.501 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 10 @ 0.09207103 = 0.9207 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 3 @ 0.20747627 = 0.6224 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.18621354 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:24:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.10103111 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:25:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [+]
Dec 31 00:25:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:25:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:26:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1 @ 0.16694673 BTC [-]
Dec 31 00:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7436 @ 0.00064 = 4.759 BTC [+]
Dec 31 00:29:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3356 @ 0.00064 = 2.1478 BTC [+]
Dec 31 00:35:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 01:02:32 <asa1024>	Diablo-D3: How are you feeling?  Get over that mini flu yet?
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Dec 31 01:15:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8791 @ 0.00064 = 5.6262 BTC [+]
Dec 31 01:17:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.18609353 BTC [-]
Dec 31 01:20:53 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Dec 31 01:20:54 <gribble>	2979636.6169381
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Dec 31 01:31:48 <Diablo-D3>	asa1024: not really
Dec 31 01:31:56 <Diablo-D3>	I just had a coughing fit and now everything hurts again
Dec 31 01:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 10000 @ 0.00331001 = 33.1001 BTC [-]
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Dec 31 01:41:30 <smickles>	anyone here wanna help me get a little btc onto mpex?
Dec 31 01:41:49 <smickles>	jurov maybe?
Dec 31 01:42:24 <smickles>	well, whoever it is, speakup. I'll be back in 5-10 min looking for you :)
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Dec 31 02:46:59 <pigeons>	oh please can we make everything about me and start some more forum threads where we can present evidence and i can tell you why there is no proof i am a scammer or a man
Dec 31 02:47:46 <pigeons>	anyone who replies to usagi is going on ignore too
Dec 31 02:48:13 <Ukto>	what if they reply saying hes fullof shit ?
Dec 31 02:48:20 <Ukto>	:P
Dec 31 02:48:48 <pigeons>	doesn't matter
Dec 31 02:48:52 <Ukto>	lol
Dec 31 02:54:10 <PsychoticBoy>	the usagi saga continues
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Dec 31 03:24:34 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: wait, replies to usagi?
Dec 31 03:24:46 <Diablo-D3>	might as well just quit the forums
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Dec 31 03:51:39 <EskimoBob>	it's gone beyond ridiculous
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Dec 31 03:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17993 @ 0.00064 = 11.5155 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 05:13:47 <Supa>	hey assbot
Dec 31 05:13:52 <Supa>	fucked your mom last night
Dec 31 05:13:59 <Supa>	after I fucked gmaxwell's mom
Dec 31 05:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00064 = 1.088 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 05:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00064 = 6.72 BTC [+]
Dec 31 05:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
Dec 31 05:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1031 @ 0.00064 = 0.6598 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 06:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064 = 4.608 BTC [+]
Dec 31 06:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 06:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2504 @ 0.00064 = 1.6026 BTC [+]
Dec 31 06:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00064 = 8.864 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 07:26:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3552 @ 0.00064 = 2.2733 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 07:28:54 <Bugpowder>	extreme betting action this morning on S.DICE
Dec 31 07:29:17 <Bugpowder>	65,000 BTC since last update
Dec 31 07:29:21 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE lost 2000
Dec 31 07:29:37 <Bugpowder>	err
Dec 31 07:29:41 <Bugpowder>	more like 1200
Dec 31 07:29:52 <Bugpowder>	1350
Dec 31 07:30:55 <Bugpowder>	still going actually
Dec 31 07:31:01 <Bugpowder>	and shit
Dec 31 07:32:08 <Bugpowder>	a bettor just won 1700 coins in the last 5 minutes
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Dec 31 07:40:51 <Bugpowder>	>70k best, S.DICE now up 200BTC
Dec 31 07:40:55 <Bugpowder>	bet
Dec 31 07:44:38 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE now up 2200 in this streak.
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Dec 31 07:46:38 <Bugpowder>	now up 3000
Dec 31 07:46:51 <Bugpowder>	Which would be a dividend of 23,000
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Dec 31 07:52:33 <Bugpowder>	over 80k bet on S.DICE this morning
Dec 31 07:53:05 <mircea_popescu>	no ?!
Dec 31 07:53:13 <Bugpowder>	still going
Dec 31 07:53:20 <Bugpowder>	5000BTC swings
Dec 31 07:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	are they under or over ?
Dec 31 07:53:35 <Bugpowder>	currently SDICE is up another 3000
Dec 31 07:53:44 <Bugpowder>	but 20 minutes ago they were down 3000
Dec 31 07:53:57 <Bugpowder>	so for the month, around 23,000
Dec 31 07:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Dec 31 07:54:21 <Bugpowder>	They may surpass 500,000 BTC volume this month
Dec 31 07:54:37 <Bugpowder>	Wait a sec.... is that more than MPEX???
Dec 31 07:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the problem with sdice is that anyone can make competition for them etc
Dec 31 07:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	o ya. way.
Dec 31 07:55:19 <Bugpowder>	If this volume keeps up after Jan 1...
Dec 31 07:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Dec 31 07:55:36 <Bugpowder>	We are looking at expected revenue of 10,000/mo
Dec 31 07:55:50 <mircea_popescu>	or 100k a year over a 3-400k company.
Dec 31 07:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	IN BTC. which also appreciates.
Dec 31 07:56:29 <Bugpowder>	Almost as profitable as MPOE
Dec 31 07:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	well, very different things. mpoe was mostly profitable through share appreciation, dice mostly through dividends
Dec 31 07:57:10 <Bugpowder>	I don't mean the stock
Dec 31 07:57:15 <Bugpowder>	but yeah
Dec 31 07:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	in other news http://static.infowars.com/2012/12/i/general/counterthink_large.jpg
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Dec 31 07:57:59 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Dec 31 07:58:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43996, Best ask: 13.44994, Bid-ask spread: 0.00998, Last trade: 13.43996, 24 hour volume: 15187.67923515, 24 hour low: 13.36000, 24 hour high: 13.59000, 24 hour vwap: 13.46604
Dec 31 07:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	tbh it's likely s.mpoe was overbought because the large blocks on sale for s.dice had a depressing effect.
Dec 31 07:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	i am curious if it will resolve by massive buys into s.dice or by sales of s.mpoe
Dec 31 07:59:53 <Bugpowder>	+1,721
Dec 31 08:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	so 25k now ?
Dec 31 08:00:21 <Bugpowder>	no
Dec 31 08:00:26 <Bugpowder>	21700
Dec 31 08:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Dec 31 08:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	i thought they were 23k before
Dec 31 08:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	so -1300 is what you meant ?
Dec 31 08:01:01 <Bugpowder>	well
Dec 31 08:01:06 <Bugpowder>	I'm just posting a rolling update
Dec 31 08:01:12 <Bugpowder>	for this mornings action
Dec 31 08:03:32 <Bugpowder>	betting pace is around 10BTC / s
Dec 31 08:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	oy vey.
Dec 31 08:04:52 <Bugpowder>	shit
Dec 31 08:04:54 <Bugpowder>	+300
Dec 31 08:05:01 <Bugpowder>	I have to stop looking
Dec 31 08:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 31 08:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	fascinating is it
Dec 31 08:05:30 <Bugpowder>	It's like 2000 BTC a minute swings
Dec 31 08:05:47 <Bugpowder>	Yes it's like I"M betting
Dec 31 08:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 31 08:06:07 <Bugpowder>	Also fascinating, who is doing this?
Dec 31 08:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	srsly.
Dec 31 08:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	chinese ppl ?
Dec 31 08:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea.
Dec 31 08:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	can the addies be traced at all to anything ?
Dec 31 08:06:28 <Bugpowder>	I wish we could trace them
Dec 31 08:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	single entity ? wide diversity ? something in between ?
Dec 31 08:06:43 <mircea_popescu>	isn't something like taint analysis usable in principle to do it ?
Dec 31 08:06:49 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/1Di6ux3CQBNXCZLD76BsnYWDo6XnFGzQah
Dec 31 08:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	you're the research scientist cum brain surgeon, do something
Dec 31 08:07:13 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/1B5h9sf6xNLYGa3NBk48hwYbxyNZ22PRJk
Dec 31 08:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26234 @ 0.00064 = 16.7898 BTC [+]
Dec 31 08:07:39 <Bugpowder>	You know more about bitcoin and network analysis than me
Dec 31 08:08:07 <Bugpowder>	not a happy account graph :)   http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1B5h9sf6xNLYGa3NBk48hwYbxyNZ22PRJk
Dec 31 08:08:31 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/17sjYPaYJAvtwXM2q5ojzrCiYewnQMBi9y
Dec 31 08:08:48 <mircea_popescu>	so basically someone bought 200k worth of btc and bet it all ?
Dec 31 08:08:53 <Bugpowder>	They are all going to be traced back to evorhees
Dec 31 08:09:01 <Bugpowder>	just recycling the profits
Dec 31 08:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Dec 31 08:09:12 <Bugpowder>	to boost the traffic
Dec 31 08:09:20 <Bugpowder>	this is my new theory
Dec 31 08:09:27 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Dec 31 08:09:32 <mircea_popescu>	i tell you what, if you can prove that one you're the new bitcoin star.
Dec 31 08:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	you can even be my forum pr.
Dec 31 08:09:51 <mircea_popescu>	even tho you're not a girl.
Dec 31 08:09:54 <Bugpowder>	He says his coins are untraceable
Dec 31 08:10:03 <Bugpowder>	(the ones he spends)
Dec 31 08:10:15 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees ? possibly because most of it come from mpex lol
Dec 31 08:13:10 <Bugpowder>	-2000
Dec 31 08:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you weren;t looking.
Dec 31 08:21:48 <Bugpowder>	+617
Dec 31 08:21:53 <Bugpowder>	You know....
Dec 31 08:22:32 <Bugpowder>	This evoorhees recycling mpex share sales to goose volumes hypothesis is... disturbingly plausible.
Dec 31 08:23:30 <Bugpowder>	Its a small number of addresses that bet heavily for a day at irregular intervals
Dec 31 08:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00064 = 2.368 BTC [+]
Dec 31 08:27:12 <Bugpowder>	The dates of IPO share sales don't consistently lead the volume spike days though
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Dec 31 08:27:40 <Bugpowder>	which you might expect if someone stupid would try to pull this off
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Dec 31 08:31:53 <kakobrekla>	;;rate pizzaman1337 1 a valued customer
Dec 31 08:31:55 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user pizzaman1337 has been recorded.
Dec 31 08:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is, long or short interval, makes no difference in the blockchain
Dec 31 08:32:33 <mircea_popescu>	but on the other hand, mpex volume isn't 500k. it's 100k. not all of that is s.dice either. he'd have 20k or something to pump price with
Dec 31 08:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	what'd that do ?
Dec 31 08:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	drop in the bucket. unless he'd spin it like 50 times each coin, in which case it should be bleedingly obvious.
Dec 31 08:33:24 <thestringpuller>	Sir Mircea Popescu of the Romanian gangsterhood.
Dec 31 08:33:31 <mircea_popescu>	lmao what ?
Dec 31 08:34:02 <thestringpuller>	*shrug* I was just tryin to come up with a funny name.
Dec 31 08:34:20 <thestringpuller>	is ART listed on bitfunder?
Dec 31 08:35:03 <Bugpowder>	MEXICO CITY
Dec 31 08:35:10 <Bugpowder>	Is it the cartels?
Dec 31 08:35:34 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder that is an entirely plausible hypothesis also
Dec 31 08:35:39 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/tx-index/40410720/0
Dec 31 08:36:38 <mircea_popescu>	still, it'd be trivial to lease a vps there and relay
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Dec 31 08:36:51 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Dec 31 08:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	trivial if one thinks about it, obviously.
Dec 31 08:36:59 <Bugpowder>	well
Dec 31 08:37:07 <thestringpuller>	Final Balance: 7,180.33674724 BTC
Dec 31 08:37:09 <thestringpuller>	heh
Dec 31 08:37:12 <Bugpowder>	clicking through blockchain.info is not the right way to do this
Dec 31 08:37:29 <mircea_popescu>	well ya, thing is... crime usually gets caught not by whatever having been too difficult, but by it being trivial and nobody thinking of it.
Dec 31 08:43:39 <mircea_popescu>	ok that's a new record
Dec 31 08:43:43 <mircea_popescu>	someone look at mpex's deposit addy.
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Dec 31 08:52:36 <Bugpowder>	heh
Dec 31 08:52:45 <Bugpowder>	that's just about enough to sell through the S.DICE IPO
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Dec 31 08:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	isn't it.
Dec 31 08:56:15 <mircea_popescu>	im curious if that's what it's for.
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Dec 31 08:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.00370000*2959421
Dec 31 08:59:31 <gribble>	10949.8577
Dec 31 08:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol wipage.
Dec 31 09:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 152067 @ 0.0036999 = 562.6327 BTC [+]
Dec 31 09:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 460 @ 0.00369999 = 1.702 BTC [+]
Dec 31 09:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550181 @ 0.0037 = 9435.6697 BTC [+]
Dec 31 09:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	that settles that.
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Dec 31 09:08:55 <Bugpowder>	HAHAHAHAH
Dec 31 09:08:56 <Bugpowder>	YES
Dec 31 09:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7887 @ 0.00064 = 5.0477 BTC [+]
Dec 31 09:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder where it'll settle.
Dec 31 09:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Dec 31 09:11:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00343244 / 0.00369289 / 0.0037 (4067561 shares, 15,021.09 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00327158 / 0.0037 (12729838 shares, 41,646.72 BTC)
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Dec 31 09:11:58 <kakobrekla>	preety insane.
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Dec 31 09:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	btc finance ftw.
Dec 31 09:14:39 <Bugpowder>	well i have asks at 70 95 and 128
Dec 31 09:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	maybe all 3 are hit lmao
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Dec 31 09:15:01 <Bugpowder>	i would be ok on that
Dec 31 09:16:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400000 @ 0.00064 = 2176 BTC [+]
Dec 31 09:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha ok, well. now i feel better :D
Dec 31 09:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	s.mpoe all left out!
Dec 31 09:17:41 <Bugpowder>	Thats the exact right strategy to buy S.MPOE though
Dec 31 09:17:51 <Bugpowder>	finish off the tier
Dec 31 09:18:18 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: fight breaks out during fiscal cliff talks
Dec 31 09:18:24 <thestringpuller>	no compromise in sight
Dec 31 09:18:28 <thestringpuller>	:P
Dec 31 09:18:35 <thestringpuller>	looks like your day
Dec 31 09:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	fight lol
Dec 31 09:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	did anyone take of shoes to beat on table ?
Dec 31 09:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3268 @ 0.00361906 = 11.8271 BTC [-]
Dec 31 09:22:28 <mircea_popescu>	wait.
Dec 31 09:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (562+ 9435+2176) / (22-7(
Dec 31 09:22:57 <gribble>	Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
Dec 31 09:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (562+ 9435+2176) / (22-7)
Dec 31 09:22:59 <gribble>	811.533333333
Dec 31 09:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	811 btc per minute. MOAR THAN SDICE!
Dec 31 09:23:17 <Bugpowder>	nope
Dec 31 09:23:21 <Bugpowder>	10BTC / s
Dec 31 09:23:27 <Bugpowder>	oh
Dec 31 09:23:31 <Bugpowder>	nm
Dec 31 09:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	in yo face, bugpowda
Dec 31 09:23:37 <Bugpowder>	i'm bad at math
Dec 31 09:23:50 <thestringpuller>	arent you a scientist?
Dec 31 09:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	he's a sexientist
Dec 31 09:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	sounds almost the same
Dec 31 09:27:17 <Bugpowder>	I'm joking
Dec 31 09:27:20 <Bugpowder>	hha
Dec 31 09:27:22 <Bugpowder>	well
Dec 31 09:27:33 <Bugpowder>	that person that sold 1.5M @ .0018..
Dec 31 09:27:36 <Bugpowder>	sucks to be him
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Dec 31 09:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol for srs
Dec 31 09:33:56 <Bugpowder>	just took a 2700BTC loss
Dec 31 09:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7196 @ 0.0037 = 26.6252 BTC [+]
Dec 31 09:34:04 <Bugpowder>	yeaaaah
Dec 31 09:34:05 <Bugpowder>	moar
Dec 31 09:34:09 <Bugpowder>	SELL THE FUCK THRU
Dec 31 09:34:19 <mircea_popescu>	same sorta thing happened to mpoe early on tho iirc
Dec 31 09:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	ppl panic.
Dec 31 09:34:32 <Bugpowder>	well
Dec 31 09:34:33 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Dec 31 09:34:42 <Bugpowder>	there is a lot of risk
Dec 31 09:34:51 <Bugpowder>	almost everything I panic sold has crashed
Dec 31 09:34:56 <Bugpowder>	F.GIGA.ETF
Dec 31 09:35:00 <Bugpowder>	OBSI
Dec 31 09:35:13 <Bugpowder>	MPCD.B
Dec 31 09:35:15 <Bugpowder>	MPCD.C
Dec 31 09:36:07 <Bugpowder>	S.MPOE was not a panic sell, just a profit taking trade that I didn't get back in on in time before uber rally
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Dec 31 09:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	well good then
Dec 31 09:37:36 <Bugpowder>	I have not panic sold S.DICE
Dec 31 09:37:41 <Bugpowder>	only panic BUY
Dec 31 09:38:52 <thestringpuller>	s dice
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Dec 31 09:39:04 <thestringpuller>	depends on people playing tho
Dec 31 09:39:15 <thestringpuller>	you are stealing stupid people tax
Dec 31 09:39:18 <thestringpuller>	like the lotto
Dec 31 09:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is, on fundamentals sdice is so much better than lottery
Dec 31 09:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	that there's a lot of room for it
Dec 31 09:40:18 <thestringpuller>	elaborate please
Dec 31 09:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	no lottery can be run this efficiently. not in the same degree of magnitude either
Dec 31 09:40:25 <Bugpowder>	1.9% edge
Dec 31 09:40:27 <Bugpowder>	no costs
Dec 31 09:40:32 <Bugpowder>	no political bullshit
Dec 31 09:40:36 <Bugpowder>	global reach
Dec 31 09:40:59 <Bugpowder>	linkable to other games via APIs
Dec 31 09:41:07 <Bugpowder>	what else?
Dec 31 09:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	well its good enough
Dec 31 09:41:25 <thestringpuller>	but what value does this provide non gamblers?
Dec 31 09:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	state lottery pays 60% in the best case
Dec 31 09:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	no lottery in fiat could be run on 2%
Dec 31 09:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	to non gamblers ?
Dec 31 09:41:47 <Bugpowder>	well... it provides revenue
Dec 31 09:41:50 <Bugpowder>	to shareholders
Dec 31 09:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	that's nonsense, what value does ford provide to non drivers
Dec 31 09:42:10 <Bugpowder>	negative value
Dec 31 09:42:15 <Bugpowder>	air pollution
Dec 31 09:42:20 <Bugpowder>	greenhouse gases
Dec 31 09:42:53 <Bugpowder>	"In 2012, the Global Casinos and Online Gambling industry is expected to generate revenue of $126.6 billion"
Dec 31 09:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	aha.
Dec 31 09:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	revenue, that is.
Dec 31 09:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	not turnover.
Dec 31 09:43:42 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Dec 31 09:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	and dollars only.
Dec 31 09:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	who knows about india
Dec 31 09:44:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: do you ever spend your bitcoins?
Dec 31 09:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	conswevatively s.dice could have 1% of the entire market
Dec 31 09:44:23 <mircea_popescu>	that's possibly 1 trn a year.
Dec 31 09:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	of which 20bn in profits on avg
Dec 31 09:45:35 <mircea_popescu>	this is what good start-ups are
Dec 31 09:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	not airbnb bs
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Dec 31 10:03:00 <thestringpuller>	airbnb is awesome
Dec 31 10:03:09 <thestringpuller>	man what would i do without it
Dec 31 10:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	eh get out
Dec 31 10:03:24 <Bugpowder>	den of scammers and thieves
Dec 31 10:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	fucking "gypos online"
Dec 31 10:03:54 <mircea_popescu>	hey, we want to travel but we can't afford 50 bux or w/e 8ball costs
Dec 31 10:05:57 <Bugpowder>	easiest way to case a place for robbery
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Dec 31 10:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	it's a no starter for both ends of the deal. pretty much spiral of doom both ways.
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Dec 31 10:14:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00368818 = 9.036 BTC [-]
Dec 31 10:16:21 <thestringpuller>	i was being sarcastic
Dec 31 10:16:37 <thestringpuller>	paul graham is a washout oe
Dec 31 10:16:39 <thestringpuller>	now*
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Dec 31 10:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2016 @ 0.00368818 = 7.4354 BTC [-]
Dec 31 10:39:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15051 @ 0.00064 = 9.6326 BTC [+]
Dec 31 10:39:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00064134 = 9.7484 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 10:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	sadly.
Dec 31 10:58:45 <mircea_popescu>	it's how it works for most people, they do something early in their 30s and then enver live up to it.
Dec 31 10:58:54 <mircea_popescu>	complacency.
Dec 31 11:07:21 <kakobrekla>	and heres the new years present http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_6jutCHATc
Dec 31 11:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	Unknown Exception
Dec 31 11:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	anyone else see this on blockchain.info ?
Dec 31 11:17:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 634 @ 0.00368818 = 2.3383 BTC [-]
Dec 31 11:17:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 266 @ 0.0037 = 0.9842 BTC [+]
Dec 31 11:28:41 <mircea_popescu>	Could not create connection to database server. Attempted reconnect 3 times. Giving up.
Dec 31 11:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	odd
Dec 31 11:31:38 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE bettor is dossing blockchain to prevent discovery
Dec 31 11:40:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 181 @ 0.00361906 = 0.655 BTC [-]
Dec 31 11:40:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5519 @ 0.00360726 = 19.9085 BTC [-]
Dec 31 11:46:54 <thestringpuller>	money laundering?
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Dec 31 11:47:08 <thestringpuller>	i should launder money for cartels
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Dec 31 11:50:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1531 @ 0.00360726 = 5.5227 BTC [-]
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Dec 31 11:58:47 <Bugpowder>	looks like the S.MPOE buy bot has switched to S.DICE :)
Dec 31 11:59:32 <pigeons>	stop calling me a bot. i'm dollar cost averaging.
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Dec 31 12:12:40 <Bugpowder>	lol
Dec 31 12:12:41 <Bugpowder>	http://mineforeman.com/2012/12/31/butterfly-labs-deliver-on-photos-of-their-new-production-line/
Dec 31 12:12:55 <Bugpowder>	looks like they are ready to roll off the presses
Dec 31 12:17:14 <pigeons>	haha i love the shill commentary on that one
Dec 31 12:17:44 <pigeons>	"they might not actually have asic chips in hand like the competition, but wouldn't you rather have big mystery machinery?"
Dec 31 12:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1019 @ 0.00349157 = 3.5579 BTC [-]
Dec 31 12:19:29 <pigeons>	surely they wouldn't buy pnp machines if they were scammers? where else can you get a photo?
Dec 31 12:20:52 <Bugpowder>	blah   12-12-31 16:50:49	lessthan 6000	f76015a6	8bad83bc	1MqrpPC	CONFIRMED	100.00000000	WIN	1066.55176666	5767
Dec 31 12:26:53 <Bugpowder>	man if every day had this level of betting action.... 15% avr monthly dividends....
Dec 31 12:35:55 <markedathome>	pigeons: bankruptcy auction?
Dec 31 12:36:35 <pigeons>	naysayer!
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Dec 31 13:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3381 @ 0.00356415 = 12.0504 BTC [+]
Dec 31 13:10:26 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> mircea_popescu: do you ever spend your bitcoins? <<< question successfully evaded :D
Dec 31 13:10:32 <smickles>	oh wait
Dec 31 13:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 31 13:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	no, i don't really
Dec 31 13:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	i do csr stuff and so forth, but other than that...
Dec 31 13:16:21 <smickles>	you mean mpex expenses?
Dec 31 13:16:34 <smickles>	that's not really 'you' though
Dec 31 13:17:02 <smickles>	anyone want to sell me 2 MPExBTC?
Dec 31 13:19:02 <smickles>	or fund an unproven, possibly buggy, options market maker bot, possibly losing all your btc, or possibly gaining a little btc?
Dec 31 13:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00065652 = 6.2041 BTC [+]
Dec 31 13:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15625 @ 0.00065999 = 10.3123 BTC [+]
Dec 31 13:20:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47778 @ 0.00066 = 31.5335 BTC [+]
Dec 31 13:21:28 <smickles>	in all likelyhood it's lose some vs gain some, but losing all sounds scarier, and I don't want to deal with pussies
Dec 31 13:25:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Dec 31 13:27:35 <markedathome>	mf bollox ... now down one click of death seagate 1TB truecrypt disk. and of course it is too late to get the usb-terminal cable to find out whether i can reflash the drive bios.
Dec 31 13:27:37 <markedathome>	:-(
Dec 31 13:29:38 <smickles>	one click of death?
Dec 31 13:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.18457935 BTC [-]
Dec 31 13:37:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.09886507 BTC [-]
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Dec 31 13:39:18 <smickles>	Namjies: http://blockchain.info/tx/17b449d5b43d06929ff1983d824c7ac883b2c30d66b6ca48adffc9ea15737d74
Dec 31 13:39:23 <smickles>	;)
Dec 31 13:44:28 <Namjies>	arf
Dec 31 13:45:00 <Namjies>	I had 31 SS, right
Dec 31 13:45:48 <Namjies>	wait, someone had over 60k SS?
Dec 31 13:47:10 <smickles>	Namjies: it was a mixed payment of peeps who got all 3 payments in one, and peeps who got their third payment
Dec 31 13:51:20 <Namjies>	ah
Dec 31 13:51:27 <Namjies>	seems like a mess to manage
Dec 31 13:51:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65650 @ 0.00066 = 43.329 BTC [+]
Dec 31 13:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1469 @ 0.00354422 = 5.2065 BTC [-]
Dec 31 13:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00358157 = 7.5213 BTC [+]
Dec 31 13:55:37 <markedathome>	[18:29:47] <smickles> one click of death?  --< one "click-of-death" seagate drive
Dec 31 13:56:04 <markedathome>	apparently it has some firmware that when it fails tries to write to somewhere in the outer solar system...
Dec 31 13:56:34 *	markedathome has not been drinking, oh no, because that made no sense
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Dec 31 13:58:57 <Namjies>	It's a firmware that "smartly target the most empty space"
Dec 31 13:59:25 <Namjies>	The microscopic disclaimer vaguely mention that the empty space might not even be on a disk.
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Dec 31 14:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00361366 = 7.2273 BTC [+]
Dec 31 14:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00361366 = 3.2523 BTC [+]
Dec 31 14:21:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.0036969 = 8.1332 BTC [+]
Dec 31 14:33:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 728 @ 0.0036969 = 2.6913 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 14:44:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550 @ 0.00359888 = 9.1771 BTC [-]
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Dec 31 15:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5504 @ 0.00066 = 3.6326 BTC [+]
Dec 31 15:11:54 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Dec 31 15:11:55 <gribble>	13.43
Dec 31 15:12:48 <kakobrekla>	so, the only non automated message i got wishing me good luck in 2013 got into my email by mistake (not ment for me)
Dec 31 15:13:02 <kakobrekla>	even got some strangers pic along with it
Dec 31 15:15:02 <Namjies>	Well Diablo-D3, it seems like that person I was talking about actually is the claimed person.
Dec 31 15:15:20 <Namjies>	Highest investor profile I've seen yet.
Dec 31 15:28:58 <mod6>	Namjies: what's the deal with BitVPS -- are you guys going to publish a statement?
Dec 31 15:30:40 <Namjies>	for MPEx?
Dec 31 15:30:42 <Namjies>	yes
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Dec 31 15:43:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1055 @ 0.00359888 = 3.7968 BTC [-]
Dec 31 15:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3445 @ 0.00350619 = 12.0788 BTC [-]
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Dec 31 16:24:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00350619 = 8.4149 BTC [-]
Dec 31 16:30:18 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: well, happy new year!
Dec 31 16:31:16 <kakobrekla>	o, thank you pizzaman1337! I wish a prosperous year for you too :)
Dec 31 16:31:30 <kakobrekla>	brb gotta throw some wood in the chimney
Dec 31 16:33:37 <smickles>	chimney? Might I suggest that you aim lower, for the furnace ;)
Dec 31 16:34:55 <pizzaman1337>	unless he's trying to kill Santa
Dec 31 16:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00362226 = 5.0712 BTC [+]
Dec 31 16:49:06 <kakobrekla>	yeah, chimney... i guess a bad translation of a metaphore
Dec 31 16:49:13 <kakobrekla>	its a fireplace in the living room
Dec 31 16:49:34 <kakobrekla>	i would need to go to the roof to fill it through the chimney
Dec 31 16:49:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00350619 = 5.2593 BTC [-]
Dec 31 16:49:44 <kakobrekla>	certanly doable
Dec 31 16:58:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00354441 = 5.4938 BTC [+]
Dec 31 17:01:06 <markedathome>	just had the first fireworks of the night.
Dec 31 17:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00359341 = 7.9055 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 18:05:20 <kakobrekla>	regards from 2013
Dec 31 18:05:26 <kakobrekla>	smells funny here
Dec 31 18:06:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00066 = 17.292 BTC [+]
Dec 31 18:06:52 <Namjies>	Damn, still 2012 here
Dec 31 18:07:26 <kakobrekla>	smells like firecrackers
Dec 31 18:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00359967 = 3.5997 BTC [+]
Dec 31 18:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00361855 = 8.8654 BTC [+]
Dec 31 18:10:32 <Namjies>	astonishing...
Dec 31 18:15:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4012 @ 0.00361855 = 14.5176 BTC [+]
Dec 31 18:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2738 @ 0.00361855 = 9.9076 BTC [+]
Dec 31 18:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 339 @ 0.00362226 = 1.2279 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 18:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00362226 = 7.4256 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 19:21:18 <markedathome>	woot! first post
Dec 31 19:21:48 <markedathome>	and not even a bot in sight to have first trade
Dec 31 19:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00359821 = 2.5187 BTC [-]
Dec 31 19:27:07 <Namjies>	?
Dec 31 19:29:54 <thestringpuller>	Anyone here from Detroit?
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Dec 31 20:01:25 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Dec 31 20:01:26 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 27 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <smickles> chimney? Might I suggest that you aim lower, for the furnace ;)
Dec 31 20:07:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00065735 = 3.8126 BTC [-]
Dec 31 20:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00065735 = 1.6105 BTC [-]
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Dec 31 20:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00359821 = 0.7196 BTC [-]
Dec 31 20:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00359341 = 7.0071 BTC [-]
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Dec 31 21:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00065735 = 5.3245 BTC [-]
Dec 31 21:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00065251 = 13.4417 BTC [-]
Dec 31 21:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13849 @ 0.0006515 = 9.0226 BTC [-]
Dec 31 21:28:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00064494 = 3.0957 BTC [-]
Dec 31 21:28:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00063986 = 0.128 BTC [-]
Dec 31 21:29:30 <Namjies>	Well anyone interested in the new BTC-BOND? An amazingly rock bottom low 0.03% daily.
Dec 31 21:33:09 <kakobrekla>	speaking of funds, KV1 deposits are now closed for Jan
Dec 31 21:36:33 <Namjies>	KV1?
Dec 31 21:41:54 <kakobrekla>	yeah, bitcoin forex fund ran by our robots
Dec 31 21:43:51 <Namjies>	oh
Dec 31 21:43:58 <Namjies>	Damn, I wasn't aware of that.
Dec 31 21:44:03 <kakobrekla>	+15% in dec
Dec 31 21:44:54 <kakobrekla>	accually net was 20.6 after the fees
Dec 31 21:45:03 <kakobrekla>	but thats a hummm, exception.
Dec 31 21:45:21 <Namjies>	Where is it trading?
Dec 31 21:45:48 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/2W/106/3D1a3z3d/fx.png
Dec 31 21:47:06 <kakobrekla>	kv1 is on the right
Dec 31 21:47:12 <kakobrekla>	at least that was dec setup
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Dec 31 22:04:46 <Namjies>	I thought forex bots could not work, at least not by themselves.
Dec 31 22:05:28 <kakobrekla>	they can
Dec 31 22:05:44 <kakobrekla>	exists are assitsted anyway
Dec 31 22:05:56 <kakobrekla>	assisted
Dec 31 22:06:07 <Namjies>	I mean work by themselves algorythmically and make a profit.
Dec 31 22:06:09 <kakobrekla>	at least for now
Dec 31 22:06:12 <Namjies>	As in no input.
Dec 31 22:06:13 <kakobrekla>	sure
Dec 31 22:06:27 <kakobrekla>	well something has to be an input
Dec 31 22:07:22 <Namjies>	Tools to execute trades according to certain criterions and requiring regular new inputs and market research?
Dec 31 22:07:45 <Namjies>	Where you have to update what and how the bot has to trade regularly to take advantage of situations?
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Dec 31 22:08:01 <kakobrekla>	it updates itself
Dec 31 22:08:07 <kakobrekla>	the market updates it
Dec 31 22:08:23 <kakobrekla>	it uses kalman filtered velocity to enter trades this one
Dec 31 22:08:41 <kakobrekla>	now we are working on simple neural networks
Dec 31 22:09:19 <kakobrekla>	for next generation of bots :)
Dec 31 22:09:21 <Namjies>	Yes, I thought universal bots like that were non-existant, simply because if they worked, they'd get used more and wouldn't work amidst competition.
Dec 31 22:09:44 <kakobrekla>	i dunno about universal
Dec 31 22:09:53 <kakobrekla>	it works better on some pairs than other
Dec 31 22:10:02 <kakobrekla>	ofcourse each pair is fine tuned
Dec 31 22:10:05 <Namjies>	By that I simply mean that it learns and update itself.
Dec 31 22:10:41 <kakobrekla>	kalman filter is an adaptive filter
Dec 31 22:10:51 <kakobrekla>	so in a way it does work like that :)
Dec 31 22:11:34 <kakobrekla>	neural network is something that 'learns'.. better said 'you train it'
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Dec 31 22:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8150 @ 0.00360567 = 29.3862 BTC [+]
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Dec 31 22:51:36 <smickles>	Namjies: would you be interested in funding my mpex options market maker bot?
Dec 31 22:52:05 <smickles>	it's pretty fresh, so it could be buggy, and I'm not sure how much risk you'd want to take on
Dec 31 22:52:49 <smickles>	I ask, because it want's to sell some more options, but has used up the ammount of btc which I have already
Dec 31 22:55:06 <smickles>	It doesn't operate off of anything so fancy as kalman filters, just historical volatility
Dec 31 23:05:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00360567 = 2.1634 BTC [+]
Dec 31 23:05:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 937 @ 0.00362226 = 3.3941 BTC [+]
Dec 31 23:05:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00364319 = 1.4573 BTC [+]
Dec 31 23:05:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1156 @ 0.00366772 = 4.2399 BTC [+]
Dec 31 23:05:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1107 @ 0.00367283 = 4.0658 BTC [+]
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Jan 01 00:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1955 @ 0.00364169 = 7.1195 BTC [-]
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Jan 01 00:35:23 <Namjies>	oh hey smickles
Jan 01 00:35:57 <Namjies>	I want close to 0 risk currently.
Jan 01 00:36:18 <Namjies>	At least until I know how much GLBSE issuers will return to me..
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Jan 01 00:53:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00359341 = 2.156 BTC [-]
Jan 01 00:58:41 <smickles>	Namjies: I can't say anything against that plan :)
Jan 01 01:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2055 @ 0.00355621 = 7.308 BTC [-]
Jan 01 02:17:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 587 @ 0.00355621 = 2.0875 BTC [-]
Jan 01 03:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00064514 = 5.4192 BTC [+]
Jan 01 03:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3168 @ 0.00064839 = 2.0541 BTC [+]
Jan 01 03:37:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4961 @ 0.00063986 = 3.1743 BTC [-]
Jan 01 03:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7872 @ 0.00063955 = 5.0345 BTC [-]
Jan 01 03:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00063946 = 10.0395 BTC [-]
Jan 01 03:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5797 @ 0.00063828 = 3.7001 BTC [-]
Jan 01 03:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063768 = 0.6377 BTC [-]
Jan 01 03:38:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4302 @ 0.0006376 = 2.743 BTC [-]
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Jan 01 03:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4148 @ 0.0006376 = 2.6448 BTC [-]
Jan 01 03:58:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00063749 = 4.1756 BTC [-]
Jan 01 03:58:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4602 @ 0.00063729 = 2.9328 BTC [-]
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Jan 01 04:24:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6598 @ 0.00063729 = 4.2048 BTC [-]
Jan 01 04:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1422 @ 0.00063632 = 0.9048 BTC [-]
Jan 01 04:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5749 @ 0.00063482 = 3.6496 BTC [-]
Jan 01 04:24:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 611 @ 0.00063325 = 0.3869 BTC [-]
Jan 01 04:24:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0006327 = 4.8718 BTC [-]
Jan 01 04:24:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.0006326 = 0.6959 BTC [-]
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Jan 01 04:24:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063121 = 3.1561 BTC [-]
Jan 01 04:24:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9370 @ 0.00063111 = 5.9135 BTC [-]
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Jan 01 04:44:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00064966 = 8.7704 BTC [+]
Jan 01 04:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00065 = 1.7225 BTC [+]
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Jan 01 05:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5105 @ 0.00063111 = 3.2218 BTC [-]
Jan 01 05:24:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00357799 = 3.2202 BTC [+]
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Jan 01 05:42:33 <EskimoBob>	can assbot leave a message to IRC user?
Jan 01 05:42:59 <EskimoBob>	Namjies keeps PM'ing me but only when I am afk :)
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Jan 01 06:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00357799 = 7.6927 BTC [+]
Jan 01 06:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00359407 = 0.1797 BTC [+]
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Jan 01 07:51:27 <kakobrekla>	EskimoBob no, but gribble can
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Jan 01 08:36:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00359407 = 6.2896 BTC [+]
Jan 01 08:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.00361019 = 11.1916 BTC [+]
Jan 01 08:39:54 <pigeons>	;;later tell Namjies hit up EskimoBob
Jan 01 08:39:54 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 01 08:56:20 <maximian>	`*-+
Jan 01 09:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Oy_vey!_brooklyn.png
Jan 01 09:13:16 <pigeons>	happy new year all
Jan 01 09:13:38 <mircea_popescu>	happy new pigeons!
Jan 01 09:36:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00361053 = 0.0181 BTC [+]
Jan 01 09:36:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1808 @ 0.00355621 = 6.4296 BTC [-]
Jan 01 09:36:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00355547 = 2.1333 BTC [-]
Jan 01 09:36:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 537 @ 0.00353379 = 1.8976 BTC [-]
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Jan 01 10:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4128 @ 0.00063369 = 2.6159 BTC [+]
Jan 01 10:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00064462 = 1.5793 BTC [+]
Jan 01 10:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/ you're famous now.
Jan 01 10:16:53 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 01 10:48:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4272 @ 0.00064841 = 2.77 BTC [+]
Jan 01 11:17:11 <EskimoBob>	OK, thank you.
Jan 01 11:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1937 @ 0.00353379 = 6.845 BTC [-]
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Jan 01 11:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00353379 = 8.6578 BTC [-]
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Jan 01 12:02:27 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you'll have to give us a goo Romanian vampire story some day. Like one about babies being taken in the night by the upyr lady or somehting
Jan 01 12:03:14 <jcpham>	hello and happy new year
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Jan 01 12:04:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 476 @ 0.00353379 = 1.6821 BTC [-]
Jan 01 12:04:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00351291 = 6.3232 BTC [-]
Jan 01 12:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 96 @ 0.00350619 = 0.3366 BTC [-]
Jan 01 12:04:59 <smickles>	howdy jcpham, starting things off well, i hope :)
Jan 01 12:06:49 <jcpham>	entirely hung over
Jan 01 12:07:15 <jcpham>	still have about 75 gallons of beer to drink
Jan 01 12:07:23 <jcpham>	or dump in the lake
Jan 01 12:08:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/ <<< you should offer a bounty for people who recruite the person who finds the answer, or make that "significant service" one explicitly include it.
Jan 01 12:08:20 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Network_Challenge#Winning_strategy
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Jan 01 12:18:27 <smickles>	jcpham: that could cause a lot of drunk fish
Jan 01 12:18:39 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 01 12:18:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.24098, Best ask: 13.24100, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 13.24098, 24 hour volume: 29401.07197803, 24 hour low: 13.17324, 24 hour high: 13.56100, 24 hour vwap: 13.38349
Jan 01 12:18:52 <smickles>	uh oh, looks like a price dip is happening
Jan 01 12:30:11 <EskimoBob>	smickles: 28 BTC will take it down to 13.20 (bid is 13.30 now)
Jan 01 12:37:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00354656 = 1.9506 BTC [+]
Jan 01 12:39:12 <thestringpuller>	is mr. smickles around
Jan 01 12:39:13 <smickles>	well, the elliot wavers probably see a decent dip beginning from this
Jan 01 12:39:27 <smickles>	I think so
Jan 01 12:39:34 <smickles>	thestringpuller: ^
Jan 01 12:42:09 <smickles>	also, this might establish an sma30 crossing
Jan 01 12:42:29 <smickles>	so peeps who like that technical will be selling too
Jan 01 12:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00354656 = 6.3838 BTC [+]
Jan 01 12:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00361322 = 1.4453 BTC [+]
Jan 01 12:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7410 @ 0.00063179 = 4.6816 BTC [-]
Jan 01 12:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8776 @ 0.00063111 = 5.5386 BTC [-]
Jan 01 12:52:52 <thestringpuller>	S.DICE has a lot of volume in 24 hours
Jan 01 12:52:55 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 01 12:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00350619 / 0.00358712 / 0.0036969 (82273 shares, 295.12 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00327409 / 0.0037 (12791382 shares, 41,880.26 BTC)
Jan 01 12:53:09 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Jan 01 12:53:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00063111 / 0.00064982 / 0.00066 (384747 shares, 250.02 BTC), 30day: 0.00050368 / 0.00058449 / 0.00066 (69672257 shares, 40,723.17 BTC)
Jan 01 12:53:20 <thestringpuller>	well I'll be damned
Jan 01 12:54:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1526 @ 0.00353244 = 5.3905 BTC [-]
Jan 01 12:54:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1887 @ 0.00350619 = 6.6162 BTC [-]
Jan 01 12:56:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3628 @ 0.00063292 = 2.2962 BTC [+]
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Jan 01 13:08:37 <jurov>	hi all
Jan 01 13:15:48 <mod6>	hi jurov
Jan 01 13:15:54 <mod6>	happy new year -assets :)
Jan 01 13:18:26 <mircea_popescu>	smickles lol what do you mean recruites
Jan 01 13:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	hny mod6
Jan 01 13:20:18 <mod6>	Heeeey!
Jan 01 13:21:19 <mod6>	didja have a good New Years?
Jan 01 13:22:09 <thestringpuller>	I flew an RC plane
Jan 01 13:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	pretty good yea
Jan 01 13:23:26 <jurov>	i was on mountain retreat
Jan 01 13:23:29 <thestringpuller>	i'm going to create a drone army of rc planes
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Jan 01 13:23:34 <thestringpuller>	and take over detroit
Jan 01 13:23:36 <mod6>	haha
Jan 01 13:23:49 <thestringpuller>	what guns should I use mircea_popescu
Jan 01 13:23:59 <thestringpuller>	or should I just drop bomps on them?
Jan 01 13:24:03 <jurov>	thestringpuller, use laz0rs
Jan 01 13:24:08 <thestringpuller>	WOOOT
Jan 01 13:24:28 <thestringpuller>	i can be jr. obama
Jan 01 13:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	drop dollars.
Jan 01 13:24:45 <mod6>	haha
Jan 01 13:25:01 <thestringpuller>	the city would riot like gotham lol
Jan 01 13:25:08 <jurov>	mircea's gonna provide ammo?
Jan 01 13:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	lmao yesterday someone bought like 10k or so ditm puts
Jan 01 13:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	next day, btc goes down
Jan 01 13:25:34 <thestringpuller>	insider trading?
Jan 01 13:26:42 <mod6>	sounds like some arbitrage perhaps
Jan 01 13:26:49 <mod6>	buy some puts, sell the market
Jan 01 13:27:30 <mod6>	?
Jan 01 13:27:33 <mod6>	*shrug*
Jan 01 13:29:20 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: they haven't sold them back yet tho
Jan 01 13:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	true
Jan 01 13:30:25 <smickles>	they are probaby working on ewt or simple techincal indicators, as i mentioned earlier some key spots happened today, they were pretty obviously comming tho
Jan 01 13:31:08 <mod6>	neato
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Jan 01 14:31:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00064196 = 5.5851 BTC [+]
Jan 01 14:33:54 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 01 14:33:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.25400, Best ask: 13.28595, Bid-ask spread: 0.03195, Last trade: 13.25001, 24 hour volume: 28492.72287578, 24 hour low: 13.16123, 24 hour high: 13.56100, 24 hour vwap: 13.36504
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Jan 01 14:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00350619 = 6.4865 BTC [-]
Jan 01 14:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	for my curiosity, you folks ever ghad red champagne ?
Jan 01 14:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	im on my third bottle.
Jan 01 14:52:02 <Namjies>	I've never even heard about it.
Jan 01 14:52:26 <kakobrekla>	i had that before
Jan 01 14:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	it's pretty good.
Jan 01 14:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://magazin.ccb95.ro/product.php?id_product=418 this specifically
Jan 01 14:56:12 <mircea_popescu>	(well, i didn't buy it from w/e that site is, but it's the brand/item)
Jan 01 15:03:25 <mod6>	I haven't had it either. I've just had champagne + chambord, thats as close as I've ever gotten. haha.
Jan 01 15:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	i don't really go for champagne cocktails
Jan 01 15:04:04 <kakobrekla>	I havent had an alcoholic beverage for years now i think
Jan 01 15:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla no wonder nobody wishes you gl in 2013 then :D
Jan 01 15:04:24 <mod6>	yeah, they were handing them out some years ago on NYE at a bar in phoenix
Jan 01 15:04:32 <mod6>	i don't drink at all anymore basically.
Jan 01 15:04:43 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu i was reffering to emails only
Jan 01 15:04:43 <mod6>	i had 1 beer last year at the state fair :D
Jan 01 15:04:56 <mircea_popescu>	why not tho ? alcohol is fun
Jan 01 15:06:00 <mod6>	eh, im not sure. too old I suppose haha
Jan 01 15:06:08 <mod6>	just doesn't agree with me anymore.
Jan 01 15:06:11 <kakobrekla>	yeah, it _was_ fun.
Jan 01 15:06:19 <kakobrekla>	'fun'.
Jan 01 15:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	a well. moar for mwe
Jan 01 15:06:42 <kakobrekla>	http://www.ilikecheats.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=381&d=1341874373
Jan 01 15:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Jan 01 15:09:39 <Namjies>	My uncle was making excellent wines. He went out of business tho and back to some computer related job.
Jan 01 15:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	europe sits on a lake of wine
Jan 01 15:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	its practically free by now
Jan 01 15:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	they're paying people not to make more
Jan 01 15:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	this of course just means the dry idiots are ruining the business, and in a century or two people will all drink piss
Jan 01 15:12:34 <mircea_popescu>	aka beer
Jan 01 15:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1883 @ 0.00354949 = 6.6837 BTC [+]
Jan 01 15:13:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1569 @ 0.00361322 = 5.6691 BTC [+]
Jan 01 15:13:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 688 @ 0.0036272 = 2.4955 BTC [+]
Jan 01 15:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 660 @ 0.00362951 = 2.3955 BTC [+]
Jan 01 15:15:23 <pigeons>	it's hygenic
Jan 01 15:16:40 <mircea_popescu>	no it's not.
Jan 01 15:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	its coke differenlt flavoured
Jan 01 15:19:04 <jurov>	beer? hygienic? wtf?
Jan 01 15:19:34 <jurov>	yea i had rose champagne, it's normal thing here
Jan 01 15:21:06 <jurov>	imho only people who never got drunk on good wine can always prefer beer.
Jan 01 15:21:21 <jurov>	wine drunk = euphoria. beer drunk = shit.
Jan 01 15:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	jurov not rose tho
Jan 01 15:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	red.
Jan 01 15:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	literally, red, dark.
Jan 01 15:22:09 <jurov>	dark red? yes, that's novelty
Jan 01 15:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4265 @ 0.00064162 = 2.7365 BTC [-]
Jan 01 15:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8393 @ 0.00063111 = 5.2969 BTC [-]
Jan 01 15:22:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1442 @ 0.00063008 = 0.9086 BTC [-]
Jan 01 15:22:25 <mircea_popescu>	as dark as a girl from chad
Jan 01 15:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	literally, ion that pic on that site i linked, the bottle is clear.
Jan 01 15:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	the liquid provides the color.
Jan 01 15:23:00 <pigeons>	people who drink their piss claim its hygenic
Jan 01 15:23:08 <kakobrekla>	bucha pussies, bang+schnapps=mind blown
Jan 01 15:23:42 <jurov>	okay. closest to that i had only some blackcurrant wine with bubbles
Jan 01 15:27:26 <jurov>	maybe best wine i ever had was elderberry+white plums mix made by my brother
Jan 01 15:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	that's not wine tho
Jan 01 15:28:43 <jurov>	and what would be that? apple wine is. currant wine is.
Jan 01 15:30:46 <smickles>	I once cultured some yeast off of concord grapes, then used that to make wine out of the same sort of grapes. It gave a plesant time :)
Jan 01 15:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	nah,. wine is grape only
Jan 01 15:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it'd liquor or something
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Jan 01 15:38:59 <jurov>	whatever. i should be sorting the mpoe dividend mess, it keeps biting me
Jan 01 15:39:03 <jurov>	instead
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Jan 01 15:40:02 <jurov>	;;calc 1425.29917774/500000000
Jan 01 15:40:03 <gribble>	2.85059835548e-06
Jan 01 15:40:38 <jurov>	that's 0.00000285 BTC/share
Jan 01 15:40:51 <jurov>	why does my code think it's 10x more?
Jan 01 15:45:59 <kakobrekla>	ghost in the shell
Jan 01 15:49:14 <jurov>	no, it was caused by mircea's mistake that was immediately retconned
Jan 01 15:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	retcon ftw
Jan 01 15:55:17 <jurov>	after i hastily fixed it up it ended up here with correct result but with humongous "rounding error" corrections
Jan 01 16:00:09 <smickles>	jurov: that mpoe short would've worked out well for you
Jan 01 16:03:15 <smickles>	sry, random, but I was just looking at what it potentially could've been
Jan 01 16:04:00 <jcpham>	smickles i discovered minecraft
Jan 01 16:04:13 <smickles>	lol, you know, i run a small tekkit server
Jan 01 16:04:24 <jcpham>	i'm both ahead of and behind the curve as far as what is cool
Jan 01 16:04:37 <jcpham>	i played for 3 days sleepless
Jan 01 16:04:47 <jcpham>	how do i build traps i need gunpowder!
Jan 01 16:04:54 <smickles>	I know how
Jan 01 16:04:59 <jcpham>	gah
Jan 01 16:05:19 <smickles>	move them with water into a 'lava blade' is one way
Jan 01 16:05:24 <jcpham>	i'm really caught up with water and lava contraptions
Jan 01 16:05:29 <jcpham>	yes
Jan 01 16:05:36 <jcpham>	try/working on that
Jan 01 16:05:48 <smickles>	you should just be able to make stacks of those
Jan 01 16:06:08 <smickles>	or, you could get really fancy and efficient with redstone
Jan 01 16:06:21 <jcpham>	redstone is where i'm heading
Jan 01 16:06:30 <jcpham>	like 500 redstone in chests unused
Jan 01 16:06:32 <smickles>	find a creeper spawner, they're rare
Jan 01 16:06:48 <jcpham>	i've mostlydug out huge underground wonders
Jan 01 16:06:49 <smickles>	heh, if you get into redstone, 500 is a tiny amount
Jan 01 16:08:19 <smickles>	I made a game where the players hit buttons to send a wave of wool blocks, in various lanes, across to their opponent to knock them off
Jan 01 16:08:22 <smickles>	quite fun
Jan 01 16:09:46 <jcpham>	interesting
Jan 01 16:10:03 <jcpham>	i'm still understanding what all is possible
Jan 01 16:10:53 <smickles>	i once saw a working example of a simplified version of minecraft in minecraft, so I imagine a great many things are possibel
Jan 01 16:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1522 @ 0.00350619 = 5.3364 BTC [-]
Jan 01 16:14:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 578 @ 0.00350267 = 2.0245 BTC [-]
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Jan 01 16:54:20 <PsychoticBoy>	Currently for sale:
Jan 01 16:54:20 <PsychoticBoy>	256 JAH shares (relisted on BitFunder)
Jan 01 16:54:20 <PsychoticBoy>	178 PUREMINING shares
Jan 01 16:54:20 <PsychoticBoy>	200 FPGA.CONTRACT shares
Jan 01 16:54:20 <PsychoticBoy>	9 CPA shares (relisted on BTCT.CO)
Jan 01 16:54:21 <PsychoticBoy>	If you are intrested in buying shares please PM me with your offer.
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Jan 01 16:55:14 <kakobrekla>	half a coin.
Jan 01 16:55:26 <kakobrekla>	mebbe.
Jan 01 16:55:28 <PsychoticBoy>	uhmmmn, anyone else?
Jan 01 16:56:02 <PsychoticBoy>	30 BTC for all
Jan 01 17:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	ill pay a whole coin just to give smickles the headache of liquidating all that.
Jan 01 17:01:48 <PsychoticBoy>	hehe
Jan 01 17:02:25 <PsychoticBoy>	I got the headache now
Jan 01 17:02:45 <PsychoticBoy>	I want to close down FDBF but at this rate it will take my whole life
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Jan 01 17:04:46 <Bugpowder>	Well
Jan 01 17:05:20 <Bugpowder>	This is encouraging
Jan 01 17:05:20 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1429464#msg1429464
Jan 01 17:09:43 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE is up 10,000 BTC in the first day of the new year
Jan 01 17:09:45 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 01 17:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	no ?!
Jan 01 17:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	how far can this go ?!
Jan 01 17:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	Final SD Profit:            43115.08527065
Jan 01 17:18:51 <mircea_popescu>	am i misreading this ? seems about even
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Jan 01 17:23:32 <Bugpowder>	it was 33000 yesterday
Jan 01 17:23:43 <Bugpowder>	up 10k today
Jan 01 17:23:52 <Bugpowder>	how has this not sold out yet?
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Jan 01 17:28:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00350267 = 7.3556 BTC [-]
Jan 01 17:30:20 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 01 17:30:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.26000, Best ask: 13.34000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 13.25551, 24 hour volume: 29045.23424401, 24 hour low: 13.16123, 24 hour high: 13.56100, 24 hour vwap: 13.34483
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Jan 01 17:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	i guess there's a delay.
Jan 01 17:34:35 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> ill pay a whole coin just to give smickles the headache of liquidating all that <<< i've been charging .75btc/hr for that service
Jan 01 17:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	to whom ?
Jan 01 17:40:47 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: Are you asking me to reveal the identity of my clients?
Jan 01 17:41:16 <smickles>	I don't think I've discussed that sort of thing with many of them, so I'll refrain from doing that
Jan 01 17:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
Jan 01 17:41:32 <mircea_popescu>	i was just fishin
Jan 01 17:41:41 <smickles>	how about this:
Jan 01 17:42:16 <smickles>	anyone who I've done 'liquidation work' for, mircea_popescu want's to know you, in that way. speak up if you want to.
Jan 01 17:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	this way i can pay PsychoticBoy 1 btc to give the assets to those people so they can liquitate them using smickle's services
Jan 01 17:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	we're creating jobs here
Jan 01 17:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	i'm obama.
Jan 01 17:45:45 <Bugpowder>	I like the blog post.  Strange convergence.  I know rassah IRL from way back.  Many parties were had
Jan 01 17:46:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00064196 = 0.3852 BTC [+]
Jan 01 17:46:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00064448 = 0.9667 BTC [+]
Jan 01 17:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	o srsly ?
Jan 01 17:50:07 <Bugpowder>	pretty sure
Jan 01 17:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	i always suspected rassah = pretty hawt chick. is this a fact ?
Jan 01 17:50:18 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 01 17:50:39 <Bugpowder>	nope
Jan 01 17:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	aww. i guess my hawtchickometer is teh borkt.
Jan 01 17:52:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4185 @ 0.00350267 = 14.6587 BTC [-]
Jan 01 17:53:18 <Bugpowder>	looks like the trading bots have started playing around on S.DICE
Jan 01 17:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	well, rassah is one of teh rota judges.
Jan 01 17:56:54 <Bugpowder>	he is one of my all time favorite people
Jan 01 18:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	cool!
Jan 01 18:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	so get him to come here lol
Jan 01 18:03:59 <Bugpowder>	the perfect addition to any party
Jan 01 18:04:28 <Bugpowder>	How do you get a dancefloor started?
Jan 01 18:04:45 <Bugpowder>	At a burning man event?
Jan 01 18:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1208 @ 0.00063008 = 0.7611 BTC [-]
Jan 01 18:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3192 @ 0.00062926 = 2.0086 BTC [-]
Jan 01 18:05:22 <Bugpowder>	Take a bunch of streamers and run circles around everyone who passes by until the dancefloor is packed
Jan 01 18:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Jan 01 18:33:38 <smickles>	evoorhees: welcome :)
Jan 01 18:33:45 <evoorhees>	heya
Jan 01 18:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00063572 = 2.7336 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	o, the man of the hour
Jan 01 18:37:33 <gigavps>	un oh
Jan 01 18:37:36 <gigavps>	uh oh
Jan 01 18:37:49 *	gigavps grabs a drink and starts playing SD
Jan 01 18:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol that sounds classic.
Jan 01 18:38:18 <mod6>	weeee
Jan 01 18:38:41 <gigavps>	i'm only up 1500 btc on the site....
Jan 01 18:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	o, you can win playing ?
Jan 01 18:40:51 <smickles>	gigavps: uesed to be on the big winner list
Jan 01 18:40:53 <smickles>	so he says
Jan 01 18:40:58 <smickles>	*used
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Jan 01 18:45:09 <evoorhees>	gigavps you and gowest are on my enemies list ;)
Jan 01 18:45:16 <evoorhees>	he made like 2000 off me recently
Jan 01 18:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol why take it so personal ?
Jan 01 18:45:58 <mircea_popescu>	big winners are a casino's best friend. they give everyone else hopes.
Jan 01 18:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	you should buy them free dices and whatnot.
Jan 01 18:46:23 <gigavps>	i only play when i'm drunk and happy
Jan 01 18:46:42 <smickles>	heh, win >1kbtc, get a free pair of loaded SD branded dice
Jan 01 18:46:51 <gigavps>	the dude betting 250 on 18% blew me off the leader board
Jan 01 18:47:03 <gigavps>	fucker
Jan 01 18:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, there should be sdice merchandising
Jan 01 18:47:15 <mircea_popescu>	like, a large dice with >1200 > 1800 etc on the sides
Jan 01 18:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	like an icosahedron or we
Jan 01 18:49:38 <smickles>	evoorhees: can i license the brand to sell dice?
Jan 01 18:49:48 <evoorhees>	good point mircea
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Jan 01 18:50:30 <evoorhees>	smickles - if you're serious I'd love to make that happen, send me an email if so
Jan 01 18:50:36 <evoorhees>	erikvoorhees@gmail
Jan 01 18:50:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 255 @ 0.00351468 = 0.8962 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00351468 = 3.5147 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00351468 = 4.0419 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:51:31 <evoorhees>	S.DICE dividend is going out in a matter of minutes fyi
Jan 01 18:51:45 <leenak>	evoorhees: you run sdice?
Jan 01 18:51:56 <evoorhees>	I have a hand in it, yes
Jan 01 18:52:39 <leenak>	very cool
Jan 01 18:52:47 <leenak>	It's pretty popular these days, no?
Jan 01 18:52:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 145 @ 0.00351468 = 0.5096 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol last minute s.dice buy
Jan 01 18:53:42 <evoorhees>	leenak yeah it's been pretty popular since May, but last two months has picked up further
Jan 01 18:54:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 318 @ 0.00351487 = 1.1177 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:54:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 682 @ 0.00351487 = 2.3971 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:54:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00351538 = 4.0427 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:54:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2777 @ 0.0035377 = 9.8242 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:54:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1647 @ 0.00362951 = 5.9778 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:54:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00363509 = 5.4526 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:54:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4244 @ 0.00363721 = 15.4363 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:55:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1456 @ 0.00363721 = 5.2958 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:55:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00364582 = 6.0156 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:55:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00364968 = 7.6643 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1210 @ 0.00366141 = 4.4303 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1603 @ 0.00367283 = 5.8875 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00368216 = 8.1008 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.0036855 = 6.2654 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3081 @ 0.0037 = 11.3997 BTC [+]
Jan 01 18:56:31 <evoorhees>	lol who waited this long to buy it?
Jan 01 18:56:45 <mod6>	haha, *shrug* someone wanted MOAR though
Jan 01 18:59:11 <mod6>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 01 18:59:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00350267 / 0.00358702 / 0.0037 (89122 shares, 319.68 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00327514 / 0.0037 (12775543 shares, 41,841.76 BTC)
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Jan 01 19:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	i guess a gambler...
Jan 01 19:00:07 <Bugpowder>	damn.  I was going to buy more S.DICE
Jan 01 19:00:11 <Bugpowder>	at .0035
Jan 01 19:00:17 <Bugpowder>	guess I missed the op
Jan 01 19:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees just announced div imminent and some buys happened
Jan 01 19:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	or to quote, <evoorhees> lol who waited this long to buy it?
Jan 01 19:01:29 <Bugpowder>	i wus eating dinner
Jan 01 19:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 10000000 @ 0.0000001 = 1 BTC
Jan 01 19:05:23 <Bugpowder>	shit
Jan 01 19:05:25 <Bugpowder>	too slpw
Jan 01 19:06:45 <evoorhees>	dividend paid!
Jan 01 19:06:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol 1 btc teh shizzil
Jan 01 19:06:58 <evoorhees>	1,720 btc
Jan 01 19:07:00 <thestringpuller>	mr. voorhees himself
Jan 01 19:07:11 <mircea_popescu>	17206.4488847 total ftr.
Jan 01 19:07:23 <evoorhees>	mircea is that a bug?
Jan 01 19:07:27 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees assbot is borkt, getting fixed soon.
Jan 01 19:07:33 <evoorhees>	k
Jan 01 19:07:42 <mircea_popescu>	gets confuzeled reading divs
Jan 01 19:08:00 <evoorhees>	Happy new year shareholders ;)
Jan 01 19:08:01 <kakobrekla>	is no bug mp pays us 1 btc
Jan 01 19:08:08 <kakobrekla>	though life
Jan 01 19:08:13 <Bugpowder>	Thanks!
Jan 01 19:08:15 <evoorhees>	I think that was about 5% yield in one month
Jan 01 19:08:23 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 01 19:08:25 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 01 19:08:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00350267 / 0.00358702 / 0.0037 (89122 shares, 319.68 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00327514 / 0.0037 (12775543 shares, 41,841.76 BTC)
Jan 01 19:08:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 17206.4488847/ 0.00327514
Jan 01 19:08:40 <gribble>	5253652.93841
Jan 01 19:08:42 <Bugpowder>	Looking pretty good for this month too:)
Jan 01 19:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	5.25%
Jan 01 19:08:47 <Bugpowder>	already up 10,000
Jan 01 19:08:54 <thestringpuller>	daaamn
Jan 01 19:08:57 <Bugpowder>	bwah haha ha
Jan 01 19:09:03 <thestringpuller>	go go gadget satoshi dice
Jan 01 19:09:29 <Bugpowder>	that +10,000 today should probably dampen any S.DICE dumps
Jan 01 19:09:30 <evoorhees>	yeah that happened as I was going to sleep last night... was drunk from new years eve party so number looked all blurry on my phone, but when I woke up I discovered it was true
Jan 01 19:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 01 19:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i dun see any dumps.
Jan 01 19:09:54 <Bugpowder>	Man I was puming up S.DICE at some parties last night
Jan 01 19:10:09 <Bugpowder>	Another FTC lawyer was there
Jan 01 19:10:25 <Bugpowder>	She thought FTC would not move on boitcoins
Jan 01 19:10:32 <Bugpowder>	but another agency might
Jan 01 19:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	ya, it's the consensus in washington atm :
Jan 01 19:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	no agency will move on sdice but another one might
Jan 01 19:11:32 <Bugpowder>	FBI or tresaury
Jan 01 19:11:36 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 01 19:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	as if it were a fucking bureaucracy or something
Jan 01 19:11:44 <Bugpowder>	people got other shit to worry about
Jan 01 19:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	treasury thinks ss
Jan 01 19:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	fbi has no resources, someone else shoudl do it
Jan 01 19:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Jan 01 19:12:03 <Bugpowder>	terrorism
Jan 01 19:12:05 <thestringpuller>	how would they move on bitcoin in the states?
Jan 01 19:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	buy some.
Jan 01 19:12:17 <thestringpuller>	that costs?
Jan 01 19:12:34 <evoorhees>	SatoshiDice is not a US entity, is not hosted in the US, and does not use US currency
Jan 01 19:12:59 <kakobrekla>	where are you hosted btw
Jan 01 19:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees topic was bitcoin in general tho
Jan 01 19:13:08 <evoorhees>	and in fact, it is impossible to stop US players from using it (since SD cannot prevent a payment to a bitcoin address)... so it'd be an interesting case
Jan 01 19:13:17 <evoorhees>	hosted in Ireland
Jan 01 19:13:26 <kakobrekla>	which dc?
Jan 01 19:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	why ireland ? just so it happened or any particular reason ?
Jan 01 19:13:52 <evoorhees>	Ireland has reasonable legal leeway for online gambling
Jan 01 19:14:03 <evoorhees>	but it was somewhat arbitrary... just needed to be outside the US
Jan 01 19:16:55 <Bugpowder>	Nice month for my bitcoin fund
Jan 01 19:17:03 <Bugpowder>	up 19.6% in BTC terms
Jan 01 19:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 01 19:17:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30413, Best ask: 13.35574, Bid-ask spread: 0.05161, Last trade: 13.30413, 24 hour volume: 28326.50349508, 24 hour low: 13.16123, 24 hour high: 13.56000, 24 hour vwap: 13.33695
Jan 01 19:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	incredibly stable
Jan 01 19:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	i'd have expected some crazy swings with the halving
Jan 01 19:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	but mum's the word.
Jan 01 19:19:17 <pizzaman1337>	ASICs might destabilize it a bit
Jan 01 19:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 517 @ 0.00350284 = 1.811 BTC [-]
Jan 01 19:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	heh. asics ain't happening jus' yet.
Jan 01 19:20:50 <Bugpowder>	DUMPANG
Jan 01 19:21:12 <Bugpowder>	Hmmm
Jan 01 19:21:20 <Bugpowder>	time to put in a stink bid I think...
Jan 01 19:21:27 *	mircea_popescu prosecutes bugpowder for fud spreading and market manipulation!
Jan 01 19:24:13 <smickles>	anyone who want's to short, i have some to lend :)
Jan 01 19:25:18 <mircea_popescu>	omg conspiraci.
Jan 01 19:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	you know, it's actually this bad in euros these days.
Jan 01 19:26:42 <smickles>	What did s.dice drop to last time? 14?
Jan 01 19:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	well it sold that low, but it didn't last
Jan 01 19:28:18 <smickles>	looks like 18 is the floor this time
Jan 01 19:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the 10k it's ahead this month tho... significant deviation from the expected value. it may drop some
Jan 01 19:30:52 <smickles>	.py import time; time.time()
Jan 01 19:31:02 <smickles>	oh, not this chan anymore ? :(
Jan 01 19:31:10 <Bugpowder>	it may
Jan 01 19:31:17 <Bugpowder>	but it is expected to keep going up
Jan 01 19:31:20 <Bugpowder>	:(
Jan 01 19:31:21 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 01 19:31:26 <Bugpowder>	just more slowly
Jan 01 19:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	well, no, statistically it's expected to converge to ev
Jan 01 19:31:40 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 01 19:31:57 <Bugpowder>	statistically its expected to continue to grow at ev
Jan 01 19:32:02 <Bugpowder>	from this baseline
Jan 01 19:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	how does that work ?!
Jan 01 19:32:25 <Bugpowder>	what has happened
Jan 01 19:32:28 <Bugpowder>	has happened
Jan 01 19:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	ya but it converges to ev over ALL time-space continuums
Jan 01 19:34:20 <markedathome>	evoorhees: is the balance on the sd app supposed to reflect that of the amount in the deposit address?
Jan 01 19:34:44 <Bugpowder>	all future bets converge to ev
Jan 01 19:34:53 <Bugpowder>	but we are over ev
Jan 01 19:35:00 <markedathome>	but shouldn't ev be busy with twitter?
Jan 01 19:35:06 <Bugpowder>	and that is independent
Jan 01 19:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	any section of bets converge to ev, no matter how arbitrarily picked out of the timeline
Jan 01 19:35:11 <Bugpowder>	of any future bets
Jan 01 19:35:48 <Bugpowder>	the EV of this month is 10,000 + future bets *0.019
Jan 01 19:36:23 <mircea_popescu>	fuck this is actually true
Jan 01 19:36:49 <evoorhees>	markedathome: yes, correct
Jan 01 19:37:03 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome btw, you might be interested in http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/
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Jan 01 19:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	iirc you knew shit about the blockchain
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Jan 01 19:39:01 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: read it but slightly too late at night for me to make any effective ideas.
Jan 01 19:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	not like there's any rush
Jan 01 19:39:20 <markedathome>	maybe pirate / slush-hack / bitcoinica-hack?
Jan 01 19:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya someone was suggesting pirate as a main bettor
Jan 01 19:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	tho tbh i doubht he ever walked away with that much coin
Jan 01 19:39:55 <Bugpowder>	maybe a rich gambling addict
Jan 01 19:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	he walked away with the trollish satisfaction of having tricked a buncha people, sure.
Jan 01 19:40:19 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: snorted it all accosrding to that chat log
Jan 01 19:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 01 19:40:59 <Bugpowder>	The story of veganhippie on seals for example
Jan 01 19:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	i dun know that 1
Jan 01 19:42:10 <markedathome>	evoorhees: the sd app is out of sync by about 0.05, possibly caused by a crash that happened that took out the machine (machine not the app), so don't know if app is misreading something somewhere
Jan 01 19:42:21 <Bugpowder>	Apparently (pre-seals) he got people to stake him $220,000 for a series of about 50 tourneys.  After a few tourneys, he started gambling on the side with the money
Jan 01 19:42:23 <Bugpowder>	lost it all
Jan 01 19:42:42 <Bugpowder>	without playing in almost any tournies
Jan 01 19:43:10 <Bugpowder>	he is a very risky better on seals
Jan 01 19:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 01 19:43:16 <Bugpowder>	and big bankroll
Jan 01 19:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	220k ?
Jan 01 19:43:42 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 01 19:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, sounds like typical gambling addict.
Jan 01 19:43:47 <Bugpowder>	I think he already lost it
Jan 01 19:43:54 <Bugpowder>	must have got more
Jan 01 19:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	i knew a guy like that, his defining moment being when he spent one week geting together 50k to participate in a casino tournament
Jan 01 19:44:32 <mircea_popescu>	got there half hour early
Jan 01 19:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	lost it all in bj
Jan 01 19:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	couldn't participate in tournament.
Jan 01 19:44:45 <Bugpowder>	eheh
Jan 01 19:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	and the thing is... he was a great poker player, he was a worse bj player than most girls i know
Jan 01 19:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	and he knew this
Jan 01 19:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	but... half an hour.
Jan 01 19:45:34 <mircea_popescu>	one of those can't do math but feels people through a closed door types.
Jan 01 19:55:44 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 01 19:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00350267 / 0.00358644 / 0.0037 (88939 shares, 318.97 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00327513 / 0.0037 (12771137 shares, 41,827.18 BTC)
Jan 01 20:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7727 @ 0.00063572 = 4.9122 BTC [+]
Jan 01 20:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00063572 = 4.5136 BTC [+]
Jan 01 20:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00064448 = 8.056 BTC [+]
Jan 01 20:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00065 = 2.405 BTC [+]
Jan 01 21:12:39 <Bugpowder>	fuck
Jan 01 21:12:46 <Bugpowder>	S.DIEC
Jan 01 21:13:05 <Bugpowder>	only up 2k for the month now
Jan 01 21:13:14 <Bugpowder>	a string of good fortune
Jan 01 21:13:16 <Bugpowder>	for the whale
Jan 01 21:24:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 01 21:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	i recall our little convo above re statistixc
Jan 01 21:25:22 <kakobrekla>	:>
Jan 01 21:29:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2648 @ 0.00355562 = 9.4153 BTC [+]
Jan 01 21:29:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1893 @ 0.00359775 = 6.8105 BTC [+]
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Jan 01 21:50:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00350284 = 2.452 BTC [-]
Jan 01 22:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1293 @ 0.00359775 = 4.6519 BTC [+]
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Jan 01 22:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 514 @ 0.00359775 = 1.8492 BTC [+]
Jan 01 22:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 573 @ 0.00361924 = 2.0738 BTC [+]
Jan 01 22:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4100 @ 0.00361924 = 14.8389 BTC [+]
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Jan 01 22:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1433 @ 0.00350284 = 5.0196 BTC [-]
Jan 01 22:30:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1494 @ 0.00350267 = 5.233 BTC [-]
Jan 01 22:30:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1773 @ 0.00349228 = 6.1918 BTC [-]
Jan 01 22:40:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.11992171 BTC [-]
Jan 01 22:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.01569055 BTC [-]
Jan 01 22:48:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4267 @ 0.00349766 = 14.9245 BTC [+]
Jan 01 22:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 319 @ 0.00349228 = 1.114 BTC [-]
Jan 01 22:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 814 @ 0.00348588 = 2.8375 BTC [-]
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Jan 01 23:10:25 <kakobrekla>	nite
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Jan 02 00:00:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00356343 = 0.0356 BTC [+]
Jan 02 00:01:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 80 @ 0.00356343 = 0.2851 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 00:51:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2010 @ 0.00356343 = 7.1625 BTC [+]
Jan 02 00:51:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 890 @ 0.00361221 = 3.2149 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 01:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 502 @ 0.00348588 = 1.7499 BTC [-]
Jan 02 01:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1178 @ 0.00348305 = 4.103 BTC [-]
Jan 02 01:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1024 @ 0.0034829 = 3.5665 BTC [-]
Jan 02 01:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1847 @ 0.00347867 = 6.4251 BTC [-]
Jan 02 01:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 149 @ 0.0034743 = 0.5177 BTC [-]
Jan 02 01:33:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00064695 = 7.9575 BTC [-]
Jan 02 01:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00361221 = 5.7795 BTC [+]
Jan 02 01:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1107 @ 0.00064695 = 0.7162 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 04:03:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3250 @ 0.00355208 = 11.5443 BTC [-]
Jan 02 04:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0034743 = 6.9486 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 04:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 545 @ 0.0034743 = 1.8935 BTC [-]
Jan 02 04:24:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1355 @ 0.00345563 = 4.6824 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 05:38:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31393 @ 0.00063822 = 20.0356 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 06:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1164 @ 0.00360761 = 4.1993 BTC [+]
Jan 02 06:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2836 @ 0.00361221 = 10.2442 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 07:08:36 <kakobrekla>	my bug just earned me 8.5 btc, should write worse code.
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Jan 02 07:55:09 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stat
Jan 02 07:55:10 <gribble>	Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
Jan 02 07:55:11 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Jan 02 07:55:13 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 214802 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 909 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 18 hours, 7 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3299428.18814180 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.7325695149
Jan 02 07:57:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 867 @ 0.00064751 = 0.5614 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 08:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00063919 = 11.5054 BTC [-]
Jan 02 08:20:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 217 @ 0.00063572 = 0.138 BTC [-]
Jan 02 08:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1919 @ 0.0006335 = 1.2157 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 08:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.00359561 = 9.7081 BTC [-]
Jan 02 08:45:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2047 @ 0.00359376 = 7.3564 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 09:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00359796 = 10.0743 BTC [+]
Jan 02 09:24:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5178 @ 0.00361221 = 18.704 BTC [+]
Jan 02 09:24:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 77 @ 0.00361924 = 0.2787 BTC [+]
Jan 02 09:24:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 845 @ 0.00364437 = 3.0795 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 09:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22105 @ 0.0006335 = 14.0035 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 10:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1053 @ 0.00359376 = 3.7842 BTC [-]
Jan 02 10:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1247 @ 0.00359126 = 4.4783 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 10:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1920 @ 0.00364437 = 6.9972 BTC [+]
Jan 02 10:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2280 @ 0.00366038 = 8.3457 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 10:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3595 @ 0.00063292 = 2.2753 BTC [-]
Jan 02 10:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12505 @ 0.00063408 = 7.9292 BTC [+]
Jan 02 10:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://picostocks.com/
Jan 02 10:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol teh mpex style is win.
Jan 02 10:51:17 <mircea_popescu>	where art thou ye bootstrap believers!
Jan 02 10:52:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7228 @ 0.00062926 = 4.5483 BTC [-]
Jan 02 10:52:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11527 @ 0.00062902 = 7.2507 BTC [-]
Jan 02 10:52:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 495 @ 0.00062874 = 0.3112 BTC [-]
Jan 02 10:52:24 <kakobrekla>	mpex style with 500 lines of css?
Jan 02 10:52:31 <kakobrekla>	how does taht work
Jan 02 10:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	badly.
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Jan 02 10:57:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00359126 = 15.2629 BTC [-]
Jan 02 11:00:51 <jcpham>	i like <font size="-1">
Jan 02 11:00:58 <jcpham>	can i see moar of
Jan 02 11:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	actually i don't see why people don't go full blast and declare e**-i font sizes
Jan 02 11:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	that's what you have browsers for, no ?
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Jan 02 11:08:23 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91173.msg1422891#msg1422891
Jan 02 11:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	so apparently asic has something delivered.
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Jan 02 11:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3445 @ 0.00365486 = 12.591 BTC [+]
Jan 02 11:15:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00062874 = 3.0494 BTC [-]
Jan 02 11:20:19 <jcpham>	i'm about to go rotate/replace gpus in the datacenter
Jan 02 11:20:27 <jcpham>	i hate it everytime i do that
Jan 02 11:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 02 11:20:59 <jcpham>	headless linux gpu mining rigs are particular
Jan 02 11:21:08 <jcpham>	especially once the ARDS MOVE AROUND
Jan 02 11:21:45 <jcpham>	it's going to end up beina a big pita for 700MH/s
Jan 02 11:22:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1505 @ 0.00365486 = 5.5006 BTC [+]
Jan 02 11:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 220 @ 0.00366038 = 0.8053 BTC [+]
Jan 02 11:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1793 @ 0.0036707 = 6.5816 BTC [+]
Jan 02 11:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	700 mh/s !?
Jan 02 11:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	it already is a big pita for that.
Jan 02 11:24:33 <jcpham>	+700 MH/s off my hashrate
Jan 02 11:24:44 <jcpham>	i need to replace/rma one
Jan 02 11:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	a
Jan 02 11:25:18 <jcpham>	but i'll probably end up having to rebuild one because of the weird mix of cards in the one rig
Jan 02 11:25:32 <jcpham>	like a 6970, 6950, and 7870
Jan 02 11:25:51 <jcpham>	i have rigs i built that were the same components, and i have some that are like used junk cars
Jan 02 11:25:57 <jcpham>	this one is a used junk car
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Jan 02 11:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9271 @ 0.00062874 = 5.829 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 11:59:36 <Guest42668>	mircea_popescu: i solved the bounty
Jan 02 11:59:40 <Guest42668>	100 btc please
Jan 02 12:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 457 @ 0.0036707 = 1.6775 BTC [+]
Jan 02 12:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00367109 = 6.608 BTC [+]
Jan 02 12:00:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2143 @ 0.00367193 = 7.8689 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 12:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller link ?
Jan 02 12:02:48 <thestringpuller>	i kid but srsly i have info
Jan 02 12:02:54 <thestringpuller>	i work probono
Jan 02 12:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	so post it
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Jan 02 12:04:29 <thestringpuller>	soon. i need to trace further back.
Jan 02 12:04:49 <thestringpuller>	i think i can pin point it to a single chunk of btc
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Jan 02 12:05:54 <thestringpuller>	if dice is betting with itself...then its very good at obfuscating
Jan 02 12:06:19 <thestringpuller>	how about I give you my results and you write the whitepaper? ;)
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Jan 02 12:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 657 @ 0.00367193 = 2.4125 BTC [+]
Jan 02 12:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2896 @ 0.00369999 = 10.7152 BTC [+]
Jan 02 12:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1087 @ 0.0037 = 4.0219 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 12:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	you can just post a comment under the article
Jan 02 12:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	plenty of people there might carry it further.
Jan 02 12:20:06 <Ukto>	wait
Jan 02 12:20:12 <Ukto>	is Evoorhees part of bitinstant ?
Jan 02 12:20:28 <Ukto>	with yankee ?
Jan 02 12:20:31 <kakobrekla>	man, i always read that as "ever hoes"
Jan 02 12:20:53 <Ukto>	I keep reading it as e-whorees
Jan 02 12:21:57 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Jan 02 12:22:00 <gribble>	Time since last block: 50 minutes and 52 seconds
Jan 02 12:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto yea
Jan 02 12:22:55 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: partners ?
Jan 02 12:23:03 <Ukto>	I might have to pull some strings then...
Jan 02 12:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	well yes, hes' listed on the page and all.
Jan 02 12:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	what strings be those ?
Jan 02 12:23:26 *	Ukto plays teh harp like a boss
Jan 02 12:25:11 <jcpham>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131778.msg1430691#msg1430691
Jan 02 12:25:14 <jcpham>	derp
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Jan 02 12:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 02 12:27:35 <Namjies>	?
Jan 02 12:27:44 <Namjies>	Hello by the way
Jan 02 12:28:23 <kakobrekla>	My dad is die and my wife's dad is die.
Jan 02 12:28:23 <kakobrekla>	My mother do not have money to send me, she is living other city and contains my little brother.
Jan 02 12:28:23 <kakobrekla>	My wife's mother is living other city and contains my wife's little brother and my wife's litte sister.
Jan 02 12:28:34 <kakobrekla>	i know i know its sad, but its also a bit funny.
Jan 02 12:29:00 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies was re jcpham earlier.
Jan 02 12:29:03 <Ukto>	"Our current superconducting 128-qubit processor chip is housed inside a cryogenics system within a 10 square meter shielded room." wow
Jan 02 12:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i actually sent the guy monyz.
Jan 02 12:29:15 <kakobrekla>	you did?
Jan 02 12:29:15 <jcpham>	?
Jan 02 12:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 02 12:30:41 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: i pull the strings!!!
Jan 02 12:30:43 <kakobrekla>	0.001?
Jan 02 12:30:52 <kakobrekla>	a tease then.
Jan 02 12:31:22 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: Nuuu
Jan 02 12:32:26 <kakobrekla>	or was it 5btc?
Jan 02 12:34:22 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla 5 btc
Jan 02 12:34:49 <kakobrekla>	mircea_HOOD_popescu
Jan 02 12:35:13 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/283.html there.
Jan 02 12:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	hood ? why hood ?
Jan 02 12:35:28 <kakobrekla>	hood, robin hood
Jan 02 12:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Jan 02 12:41:49 <mircea_popescu>	"The problem with geologists is that they invented such a complicated language that it would be easier to understand a half-naked Papuan stepping out of a jungle in the Stone Age than a bunch of dressed-up geologists attending a conference in Vancouver or Toronto – well, unless they step out of the room to grab a beer and begin taking on mundane subjects like good bars, sports, and field equipment."
Jan 02 12:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	wtf who allows all these idiots on the internet.
Jan 02 12:43:37 <Namjies>	The low price of an internet connection allows them.
Jan 02 12:43:49 <Namjies>	That's all it requires
Jan 02 12:44:07 <kakobrekla>	rich doesnt mean not idiot
Jan 02 12:45:40 <Ukto>	btw kakobrekla
Jan 02 12:45:46 <Ukto>	did mtgox shut off api 0 ?
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Jan 02 12:47:33 <kakobrekla>	Ukto ya
Jan 02 12:47:58 <Ukto>	asshats..
Jan 02 12:48:03 <Ukto>	did you ever find good docs?
Jan 02 12:48:09 <kakobrekla>	there are none
Jan 02 12:49:25 <Namjies>	It's not an absolute, but there's high correlation.
Jan 02 12:50:07 <Namjies>	The opposite is not true however.
Jan 02 12:50:36 <kakobrekla>	Ukto here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133829.msg1424948#msg1424948
Jan 02 12:50:52 <kakobrekla>	i concider this about the same as 'go fuck yourself'
Jan 02 12:51:04 <kakobrekla>	anyway i have more important things to do and a year of backlog
Jan 02 12:55:12 <Namjies>	I find it interesting that I'm starting to get reasonable interest on loans.
Jan 02 12:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	blame mpbor
Jan 02 12:56:10 <kakobrekla>	whats the size of mpbor these days
Jan 02 12:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	4.9 last iirc
Jan 02 12:56:42 <kakobrekla>	5k?
Jan 02 12:57:10 <Namjies>	mpbor carries risk?
Jan 02 12:57:29 <kakobrekla>	5k, that i can beat :>
Jan 02 12:58:54 <mircea_popescu>	4.9%
Jan 02 12:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	and yes namjies
Jan 02 12:59:09 <kakobrekla>	no, the size i wonder
Jan 02 12:59:23 <kakobrekla>	amount of coinage
Jan 02 12:59:29 <Namjies>	I prefer to sell PUT options
Jan 02 12:59:39 <Bugpowder>	fiscal cliff
Jan 02 12:59:39 <kakobrekla>	50k?
Jan 02 13:02:26 <Namjies>	I'm getting early SatoshiDice kind of interest charged.
Jan 02 13:02:37 <PsychoticBoy>	fiscal cliff would be good for Europe, lets hope for it
Jan 02 13:02:48 <Namjies>	or about 1% per month
Jan 02 13:03:21 <Namjies>	Even less, actually
Jan 02 13:07:56 <Namjies>	+ the 200% loan value in assets guarantee is gone
Jan 02 13:09:12 <Bugpowder>	Well, my Intermediate bond index fund has an SEC yield of 1.5% a year, so sounds like you are doing well.
Jan 02 13:10:55 <Namjies>	I'd prefer 1.5% a year
Jan 02 13:11:17 <Namjies>	I'm the bond issuer.
Jan 02 13:12:00 <Namjies>	But going under 1% per month on BTC, I'll consider it an achievement.
Jan 02 13:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00359126 = 10.7738 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 13:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla size was from 40k btc to like 7ish
Jan 02 13:39:19 <kakobrekla>	hum?
Jan 02 13:39:26 <kakobrekla>	went down from 40 to 7 now?
Jan 02 13:39:35 <kakobrekla>	how come?
Jan 02 13:39:41 <Bugpowder>	price stability?
Jan 02 13:39:53 <Bugpowder>	not much volatility in exchange rate last month
Jan 02 13:40:08 <Bugpowder>	order in which the contracts were bot or sold?
Jan 02 13:40:17 <mircea_popescu>	it's odd cause it traded about the same # of contracts, roughly
Jan 02 13:40:19 <kakobrekla>	what does the size of the fund has to do with that?
Jan 02 13:40:20 <mircea_popescu>	maybe 15% less
Jan 02 13:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	but much more capital intensive
Jan 02 13:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla the capital needed simply reflects the widest berth mpoe bot ever takes.
Jan 02 13:40:56 <Bugpowder>	yeah, but if you are well balananced in exposure throughout the period, the the bond requirements will be lower
Jan 02 13:40:57 <mircea_popescu>	you can trade millions of btc's worth within the same 100btc space in principle
Jan 02 13:41:04 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 02 13:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder in principle it could make a million btc on 0 capital.
Jan 02 13:41:16 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 02 13:41:19 <Bugpowder>	maybe 1btc
Jan 02 13:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	so it fluctuates widely.
Jan 02 13:41:31 <Bugpowder>	I finally read how its calculated
Jan 02 13:41:34 <mircea_popescu>	well... admitting someone sells and someone buys simultaneously.
Jan 02 13:41:40 <mircea_popescu>	obviously this is a theoretical proposition
Jan 02 13:46:23 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 02 13:46:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.26991, Best ask: 13.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08008, Last trade: 13.34999, 24 hour volume: 14943.19679685, 24 hour low: 13.21100, 24 hour high: 13.40000, 24 hour vwap: 13.31395
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Jan 02 14:17:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.0037 = 6.475 BTC [+]
Jan 02 14:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, this is a rarely well written and entertaining article http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/15/magazine/mag-15Gold-t.html
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Jan 02 14:56:39 <Namjies>	That IS a nice article
Jan 02 14:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Jan 02 14:57:12 <rashid>	PURCHASE BITCOINS RIGHT NOW INSTANTLY WITH YOUR DEBIT/CREDIT CARD AND PAYPAL GO TO WWW.BITCOINBERUDECHANGE.COM NO SIGN UP AT ALL JUST WIZ THROUGH IT SPREAD THE WORD !!!!
Jan 02 14:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	i even dropped the author a line let him know. so rare these days
Jan 02 14:57:15 <rashid>	PURCHASE BITCOINS RIGHT NOW INSTANTLY WITH YOUR DEBIT/CREDIT CARD AND PAYPAL GO TO WWW.BITCOINBERUDECHANGE.COM NO SIGN UP AT ALL JUST WIZ THROUGH IT SPREAD THE WORD !!!!
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Jan 02 14:58:52 <Namjies>	It's the "beru de change" thing... these guys don't know how to spell "bureau de change"
Jan 02 14:59:18 <Namjies>	Someone suggested it was instead "Be Rude"
Jan 02 15:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Jan 02 15:03:39 <Bugpowder>	Yeah that was a great article
Jan 02 15:03:43 <Bugpowder>	one of my favs
Jan 02 15:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	you read it ?!
Jan 02 15:07:54 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla seems the ban failed ?
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Jan 02 15:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27684 @ 0.00062874 = 17.406 BTC [-]
Jan 02 15:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.00062839 = 0.5128 BTC [-]
Jan 02 15:12:40 <Bugpowder>	yes I read it back when it came out
Jan 02 15:12:43 <Bugpowder>	NYT addict
Jan 02 15:13:21 <Bugpowder>	forwarded it to my gold bug friends too
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Jan 02 15:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Jan 02 15:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	i used to read the nyt like in the 90s
Jan 02 15:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	these days the press is kinda gone
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Jan 02 16:00:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 610 @ 0.00063408 = 0.3868 BTC [+]
Jan 02 16:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19233 @ 0.00064091 = 12.3266 BTC [+]
Jan 02 16:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064243 = 2.12 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 16:21:41 <jurov>	it reminded me of a story by Jack London a bit
Jan 02 16:23:57 <jurov>	can't remember its name.
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Jan 02 16:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12225 @ 0.00064243 = 7.8537 BTC [+]
Jan 02 16:55:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7288 @ 0.00065 = 4.7372 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 17:12:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00065 = 10.465 BTC [+]
Jan 02 17:17:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1957 @ 0.00359126 = 7.0281 BTC [-]
Jan 02 17:26:39 <jurov>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-E
Jan 02 17:27:05 <jurov>	February MPOE bonds passthroughnow open. First moment buyers will get best price!
Jan 02 17:27:39 <jurov>	And check bitfunder announcement for extra lulz :)
Jan 02 17:32:03 <Namjies>	Couldn't these be made available on coinbr?
Jan 02 17:33:12 <FabianB>	;;seen Ukto
Jan 02 17:33:12 <gribble>	Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 45 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <Ukto> did you ever find good docs?
Jan 02 17:33:24 <Ukto>	?
Jan 02 17:33:34 <FabianB>	Ukto: it just happend again
Jan 02 17:33:42 <Ukto>	lemme looksee
Jan 02 17:34:30 <jurov>	Namjies, I'd have to add more code as coinbr is not an exchange itself. Plus it made Ukto so happy.
Jan 02 17:34:58 <Ukto>	false alarm :P
Jan 02 17:35:15 <Ukto>	jurov: it did, thanks! :)
Jan 02 17:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 02 17:36:01 <FabianB>	Ukto: yup, my fault
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Jan 02 17:38:45 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, have you seen what i put into the bitfunder news?
Jan 02 17:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Jan 02 17:39:29 <jurov>	https://bitfunder.com/news , click to unfold
Jan 02 17:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	im actually from cluj
Jan 02 17:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	which is the very heart of transylvania
Jan 02 17:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	the girls are majoritarily from the us but generally from all over
Jan 02 17:55:05 <jurov>	:)
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Jan 02 18:34:22 <pigeons>	Ukto: Heard from DeadTerra 'bout G.SDICE dividends?
Jan 02 18:41:31 <smickles>	arg, f-ing credit card companies
Jan 02 18:42:02 <smickles>	make a purchase, declined. call, get it manually approved, make the next purchase... declined
Jan 02 18:42:13 <smickles>	FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
Jan 02 18:49:55 <jurov>	smickles, use rg's method
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Jan 02 18:53:03 <pizzaman1337>	what's rg's method?
Jan 02 18:53:56 <jurov>	he was asking every day in -otc who'll order and pay him a pizza
Jan 02 18:54:00 <smickles>	give someone btc to make cc purchases
Jan 02 18:54:05 <pizzaman1337>	ah
Jan 02 18:54:21 <smickles>	jurov: he did it for data center payments too
Jan 02 18:54:35 <smickles>	a bit higher ticket than just lunch
Jan 02 18:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which, if anyone wants to buy me a somethingawful account i'll pay teh btc .
Jan 02 18:55:50 <smickles>	you have to buy sa accounts?
Jan 02 18:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Jan 02 18:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	it's 9.95 and they take cc only
Jan 02 18:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	as if anyone actually does that.e
Jan 02 19:07:01 <smickles>	Well, I've sworn of CCs for today at least
Jan 02 19:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla in yo face https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128650.msg1430666#msg1430666
Jan 02 19:11:01 <kakobrekla>	Santa Claus is exist!
Jan 02 19:11:38 <kakobrekla>	so its mircea_claus_popescu
Jan 02 19:11:42 <kakobrekla>	same shit.
Jan 02 19:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	lmao teh clueless noob hasn't quite figured it out yet lol
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Jan 02 19:32:50 <jurov>	mircea you forgot to add the "My dad is died and my wife's dad is died...." part
Jan 02 19:33:17 <kakobrekla>	im sure some city still contains em
Jan 02 19:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 02 19:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	it's so funny tho.
Jan 02 19:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	but to anyone suspecting this was an ellaborate ploy : if the guy is this good...
Jan 02 19:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00065 = 11.18 BTC [+]
Jan 02 19:37:39 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg1431414#msg1431414
Jan 02 19:37:41 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 02 19:38:05 <kakobrekla>	so its like playing less than 52000
Jan 02 19:38:32 <kakobrekla>	but the 'interests' rate on sidce are better
Jan 02 19:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	The current repayment rate is aprox 77%, if you think dice games are better than this please stay away of peer to peer lending sites.
Jan 02 19:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Jan 02 19:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	well... sdice repayment rate is 98.1%
Jan 02 19:40:36 *	jurov uses that thread to ask dumb question
Jan 02 19:40:51 <Namjies>	SatoshiDice does not deliver interests however and by selecting well rated loaners, you can drastically increase repayment rate.
Jan 02 19:41:41 <Namjies>	If you can get 95% repayment rate, with the interest, you'd end up in the green.
Jan 02 19:43:08 <Namjies>	I even got a 4% per week loan over 2 month repaid in full with interest.
Jan 02 19:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00363054 = 3.8121 BTC [+]
Jan 02 19:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 710 @ 0.0037 = 2.627 BTC [+]
Jan 02 19:46:53 <Namjies>	But I didn't want to push my luck too much tho. It's almost just like gambling.
Jan 02 19:50:51 <Ukto>	pigeons: yes, divs will be paid out soon
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Jan 02 20:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies i really have my doubts about it
Jan 02 20:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	i suspect pigeon's loadning to jurov will probably be half or a third of the actually repaid loans
Jan 02 20:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	and the fact of the matter is they could have dealt with or w/o btcjam
Jan 02 20:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	unrelatedly, if anyone's into browser gamers, try out http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/wartune/
Jan 02 20:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	it's pretty advanced.
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Jan 02 20:56:06 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: you sure its not japanese? or korean ?
Jan 02 20:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	its chinese i think.
Jan 02 20:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	but pretty good, for srs.
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Jan 02 21:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 607 @ 0.00064099 = 0.3891 BTC [-]
Jan 02 21:20:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00063446 = 6.5984 BTC [-]
Jan 02 21:20:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1934 @ 0.00062839 = 1.2153 BTC [-]
Jan 02 21:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1275 @ 0.00062834 = 0.8011 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 22:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064915 = 2.7913 BTC [+]
Jan 02 22:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1439 @ 0.00062834 = 0.9042 BTC [-]
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Jan 02 22:25:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.0037 = 9.065 BTC [+]
Jan 02 22:28:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.0037 = 9.62 BTC [+]
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Jan 02 23:28:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00065 = 10.27 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 00:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1154 @ 0.00366266 = 4.2267 BTC [-]
Jan 03 00:56:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00064316 = 1.4471 BTC [-]
Jan 03 00:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00064162 = 3.3685 BTC [-]
Jan 03 00:58:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00064712 = 2.4591 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 01:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1046 @ 0.00366266 = 3.8311 BTC [-]
Jan 03 01:23:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1947 @ 0.00359126 = 6.9922 BTC [-]
Jan 03 01:23:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 704 @ 0.00357934 = 2.5199 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 01:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2372 @ 0.00357934 = 8.4902 BTC [-]
Jan 03 01:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1228 @ 0.00353735 = 4.3439 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 03:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 263 @ 0.00363524 = 0.9561 BTC [+]
Jan 03 03:00:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 505 @ 0.00364061 = 1.8385 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 03:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 535 @ 0.00364061 = 1.9477 BTC [+]
Jan 03 03:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1765 @ 0.0037 = 6.5305 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 05:23:21 <leotreasure>	wow - awesome SD div!
Jan 03 05:38:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 153 @ 0.0036682 = 0.5612 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 06:05:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2105 @ 0.0037 = 7.7885 BTC [+]
Jan 03 06:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3937 @ 0.00064162 = 2.5261 BTC [-]
Jan 03 06:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10394 @ 0.00064021 = 6.6543 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 07:14:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.0037 = 13.32 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 07:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6104 @ 0.00064712 = 3.95 BTC [+]
Jan 03 07:51:17 <EskimoBob>	LOL "Security Firm Predicts "Murder By Internet-Connected Devices""
Jan 03 07:55:24 <Azelphur>	EskimoBob: why not? it has to happen at some point, I can think of a bunch of ways to do it
Jan 03 08:01:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 547 @ 0.0036682 = 2.0065 BTC [-]
Jan 03 08:02:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00365551 = 4.3866 BTC [-]
Jan 03 08:02:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 253 @ 0.00362958 = 0.9183 BTC [-]
Jan 03 08:03:12 <EskimoBob>	http://www.internetidentity.com/news/iid-press-releases/811-iid-says-2013-cyberthreats-are-so-2012-predicts-two-years-ahead
Jan 03 08:15:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00064646 = 2.2303 BTC [-]
Jan 03 08:15:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00064021 = 2.8489 BTC [-]
Jan 03 08:25:59 <leotreasure>	anybody have a coinbr invitation code i'm signing up
Jan 03 08:26:31 <kuzetsa>	coinbr?
Jan 03 08:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00362958 = 2.9037 BTC [-]
Jan 03 08:27:04 <kuzetsa>	leotreasure: 1) what is it, and why do you want it?
Jan 03 08:27:07 <kuzetsa>	2) gimme
Jan 03 08:27:28 <leotreasure>	it's a referral code
Jan 03 08:27:32 <leotreasure>	coinbr.com
Jan 03 08:27:49 <leotreasure>	mpex passthru
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Jan 03 08:29:01 <kuzetsa>	... I don't get it.
Jan 03 08:29:06 <kuzetsa>	isn't MPEX an exchange?
Jan 03 08:29:23 <kuzetsa>	so is coinbr like a passthru to any/all MPEX-listed thingers?
Jan 03 08:32:14 <leotreasure>	yeh
Jan 03 08:33:00 <kuzetsa>	weird
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Jan 03 09:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00064021 = 6.5622 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 09:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1106 @ 0.00064021 = 0.7081 BTC [-]
Jan 03 09:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3453 @ 0.00063961 = 2.2086 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 09:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 930 @ 0.00368308 = 3.4253 BTC [+]
Jan 03 09:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20 @ 0.00369389 = 0.0739 BTC [+]
Jan 03 10:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128650.msg1432062#msg1432062 lmao
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Jan 03 10:13:26 <EskimoBob>	lol, this is funny. MP scanning the forum and selecting threads for his sock puppet to spam.
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Jan 03 10:32:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00362958 = 6.1703 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 11:15:24 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob where is art listed?
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Jan 03 11:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	"This means that the biggest risk of our project is gone and our NRE is a fruitful spend."
Jan 03 11:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	so asicminer will actually deliver ?
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Jan 03 11:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1880 @ 0.00369389 = 6.9445 BTC [+]
Jan 03 11:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6870 @ 0.0037 = 25.419 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 11:35:29 <Bugpowder>	I LOVE that the S.MPOE trading bot has now moved over to trading S.DICE
Jan 03 11:36:08 <StarenseN>	hello, anyone to affiliate me ?
Jan 03 11:36:40 <Namjies>	where?
Jan 03 11:36:52 <StarenseN>	MPEX
Jan 03 11:36:57 <Namjies>	yes
Jan 03 11:37:05 <StarenseN>	what's you Keyid
Jan 03 11:37:08 <StarenseN>	MP
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Jan 03 11:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1186 @ 0.0037 = 4.3882 BTC [+]
Jan 03 11:57:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1158 @ 0.00369264 = 4.2761 BTC [-]
Jan 03 11:57:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 97 @ 0.00362958 = 0.3521 BTC [-]
Jan 03 11:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 375 @ 0.00361855 = 1.357 BTC [-]
Jan 03 11:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5070 @ 0.00360414 = 18.273 BTC [-]
Jan 03 12:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	that was weird ?
Jan 03 12:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/01/coder-charged-for-gambling-software/ the ever fascinating us
Jan 03 12:20:07 <Ukto>	yay, blockchain.info down
Jan 03 12:20:17 <Ukto>	-_-
Jan 03 12:20:38 <Ukto>	who wanted to use them as a payment gateway?
Jan 03 12:20:42 <Ukto>	I suggest not
Jan 03 12:21:34 <kakobrekla>	time for a blockchain.info payable and stable alternative
Jan 03 12:21:46 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu : yeah I'm sure Erik loves seeing that story.
Jan 03 12:22:02 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: about 2 months
Jan 03 12:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 03 12:22:45 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto it was announced.
Jan 03 12:23:08 <kakobrekla>	hm
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Jan 03 12:30:25 <Ukto>	what was announced?
Jan 03 12:30:34 <kakobrekla>	downtime
Jan 03 12:30:39 <Ukto>	o
Jan 03 12:30:56 <kakobrekla>	they should have downtime annoncment api
Jan 03 12:31:43 <pigeons>	that doesn't go down
Jan 03 12:31:50 <kakobrekla>	ofc
Jan 03 12:32:34 <kakobrekla>	so users would be able to ensure at least some level of service quality
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Jan 03 12:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.0037 = 11.47 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 13:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	there;s certainly space in the market for more than one blockchain.info
Jan 03 13:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	they owned blockexplorer cause that was kept mostly academicly, no serious effort
Jan 03 13:02:04 <StarenseN>	mircea_popescu, i'm about to invest in the stock market but please explain me what's the f*** is wrong with the Porn hosted on the same domain ?
Jan 03 13:02:20 <StarenseN>	private joke or something ??
Jan 03 13:04:01 <Ukto>	what wrong with the porn?
Jan 03 13:04:02 <jurov>	kuzetsa: coinbr alleviates the need to pay for mpex account, plus adds user interface and bookkeeping... wouldn't say it's weird :)
Jan 03 13:04:03 <Ukto>	is it censored?
Jan 03 13:05:02 <jurov>	anybody: coinbr.com doesn't require invitations anymore, they are useful for affiliate payments
Jan 03 13:05:30 <jurov>	perhaps should update the frontpage stuff to make it clear
Jan 03 13:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	StarenseN what domain is that ?
Jan 03 13:07:42 <StarenseN>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/**
Jan 03 13:07:56 <Ukto>	still, whats wrong with it?
Jan 03 13:08:02 <Ukto>	is it censored? pizelated?
Jan 03 13:08:08 <Ukto>	pixelated?
Jan 03 13:08:22 <kakobrekla>	use mpex.co and its on a different domain suddenly.
Jan 03 13:08:48 <StarenseN>	not censored
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Jan 03 13:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	StarenseN if you want to take it that way, it's proof of strength.
Jan 03 13:09:07 <Ukto>	then whats wrong with it?
Jan 03 13:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	the porn in question is older on the internet than btc itself, and than any other bitcoin service
Jan 03 13:09:28 <kakobrekla>	are the bitches too old?
Jan 03 13:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	taaki tried to get my site offline by complaining to anyone and everyone about "child porn"
Jan 03 13:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	the site is still there, taaki is gone
Jan 03 13:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	so you get the idea.
Jan 03 13:09:42 <jurov>	Ukto, go to bitcointalk and write somewhere "I started new exchange, cause i can't use mpex cause the porn is too pixelated"
Jan 03 13:09:55 <StarenseN>	that's ok, but why don't you dedicate ONE server for the stock market
Jan 03 13:09:56 <Ukto>	jurov: lol
Jan 03 13:10:00 <StarenseN>	it's out of my mind
Jan 03 13:10:12 <Ukto>	[12:10] <kakobrekla> use mpex.co and its on a different domain suddenly.
Jan 03 13:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	i do.
Jan 03 13:10:19 <Ukto>	kakobrekla already told you
Jan 03 13:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	what you see is just the webserver.
Jan 03 13:11:00 <StarenseN>	under your related domain that is also existing for MPEX
Jan 03 13:11:11 <StarenseN>	anyway
Jan 03 13:11:22 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Jan 03 13:11:23 <Ukto>	are you that offended by it?
Jan 03 13:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	there is a webserver which is pretty well secured for this purpose, which conduits your communications.
Jan 03 13:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	mpex itself is on a diff machine.
Jan 03 13:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	(s)
Jan 03 13:11:52 <StarenseN>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/f/
Jan 03 13:11:52 <StarenseN>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php
Jan 03 13:11:54 <StarenseN>	no?
Jan 03 13:12:04 <Ukto>	[12:10] <kakobrekla> use mpex.co and its on a different domain suddenly.
Jan 03 13:12:05 <mircea_popescu>	mpex doesn't run on the server you talk to.
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Jan 03 13:12:15 <StarenseN>	no Ukto i don't care
Jan 03 13:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	think of it as a proxy, except the other way around.
Jan 03 13:12:18 <StarenseN>	ok
Jan 03 13:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	just like your traffic at home goes through your isp's proxy
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Jan 03 13:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	just so my servers face the internet through a single webserver
Jan 03 13:12:45 <Ukto>	StarenseN: they are both the same thing.. they both talk to the actual mpex server
Jan 03 13:13:12 <Ukto>	your just mad because one has porn, and refuse to use the one without ?
Jan 03 13:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	and this is so because securing webservers is complex and expensive and you really don't want to do it multiple times if it can be helped
Jan 03 13:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	(if you know anything about it, that is)
Jan 03 13:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is out of this world :
Jan 03 13:13:51 <mircea_popescu>	Stuart asserts that New York authorities only came after him because they wanted to use him as a conduit to uncover illegal gambling operations in that state. He says the New York district attorney’s office tried to strong-arm him into a plea agreement that would have had him hacking into the systems of his software clients in order to obtain the usernames and passwords of gamblers and their bookmakers to help author
Jan 03 13:13:51 <mircea_popescu>	ities gather evidence of illegal gambling.
Jan 03 13:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	Under plea agreement discussions that were never finalized by a judge, and that occurred in February 2011 before Stuart was charged with any crime, Stuart says New York authorities pressed him to install a backdoor in his software and distribute it to clients so the data of gamblers and bookmakers could be retrieved.
Jan 03 13:14:13 <Ukto>	mo: just reading that ? lol
Jan 03 13:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	it's just... wow.
Jan 03 13:14:29 <Ukto>	just shows you how shady the govt is
Jan 03 13:14:39 <Ukto>	then there is the story there, about using predators to kill americans
Jan 03 13:14:46 <Ukto>	after that one, i closed the site
Jan 03 13:14:54 <Ukto>	and started to dream of another country agian
Jan 03 13:15:02 <jcpham>	there is a law firm in atlanta that is sending infringement claims
Jan 03 13:15:02 <kakobrekla>	the alien vs predator predator or some different predator
Jan 03 13:15:11 <jcpham>	based on  scan to pdf process patent
Jan 03 13:15:16 <jcpham>	"paperless office"
Jan 03 13:15:21 <Ukto>	armed predatorr drones
Jan 03 13:15:34 <kakobrekla>	a.
Jan 03 13:15:39 <jcpham>	pretty easy to be on the wrong side of the law or copyright these days
Jan 03 13:15:52 <Ukto>	i know a federal DA
Jan 03 13:16:12 <jurov>	who never broke copyright law, throw the first stone
Jan 03 13:16:13 <Ukto>	she got real serious during lunch once. and said "I can put you in federal prison for 5 years for eating that sandwich. No shit."
Jan 03 13:16:15 <mircea_popescu>	fucking outrageos
Jan 03 13:16:25 <Ukto>	"There is no such thing as "legal"."
Jan 03 13:17:42 <jcpham>	http://www.runtogold.com/2012/12/during-2012-fiat-currencies-and-gold-collapse-against-bitcoin
Jan 03 13:17:47 <jcpham>	bulls on parade
Jan 03 13:18:18 <Ukto>	there is a huge list of illegal things, and much larger list of items that are 'gray areas' that could be used to make 'legal seeming things' illegal.
Jan 03 13:18:47 <kakobrekla>	my head assploded seeing that gold site omg ouch.
Jan 03 13:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/whats-a-rogue-state/ mthere.
Jan 03 13:24:34 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is a rogue state
Jan 03 13:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i'd really like to get mpex on some of these golbug sites etc. you know anyone ?\
Jan 03 13:25:12 <jcpham>	unsure
Jan 03 13:25:27 <jcpham>	know would mean less than iknow you
Jan 03 13:25:57 <jcpham>	at the bottom, in the comments
Jan 03 13:26:04 <jcpham>	matonis has a forum account
Jan 03 13:26:23 <jcpham>	the forbes blogger guy
Jan 03 13:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1396 @ 0.00364994 = 5.0953 BTC [-]
Jan 03 13:27:09 <jcpham>	MP let me work on that
Jan 03 13:28:21 <jcpham>	if nothing else i can start with the guy that shared that link with me
Jan 03 13:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	np
Jan 03 13:39:39 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, i added info on http://talkgold.com, got few hits, but that was all
Jan 03 13:39:55 <jurov>	perhaps luring some known goldbug blogger would be better
Jan 03 13:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	im thinking bigger ticket sort of thing
Jan 03 13:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	two page spread in a mag or w/e
Jan 03 13:40:49 <jurov>	with some material from dtng? totally :P
Jan 03 13:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16233 @ 0.0037 = 60.0621 BTC [+]
Jan 03 13:42:11 <Bugpowder>	yesss
Jan 03 13:42:23 <Bugpowder>	355,000 to go
Jan 03 13:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lmao
Jan 03 13:45:52 <jurov>	blockchain.info down?
Jan 03 13:46:09 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134461.0
Jan 03 13:46:14 <kakobrekla>	for hours now
Jan 03 13:46:20 <kakobrekla>	not much longer
Jan 03 13:46:34 <jurov>	thx
Jan 03 13:57:26 <jurov>	poor blockexplorer.com: ERROR: unknown (Most likely my bitcoind stopped working or this page is too large/complex.)
Jan 03 13:57:43 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 03 13:57:46 <kakobrekla>	disaster
Jan 03 13:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 03 13:58:17 <kakobrekla>	is anything like blockchain info opensourced
Jan 03 13:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	so who's working on the 3rd ?
Jan 03 13:58:36 <kakobrekla>	it needs a bitcoind mod which iirc is somewhere online
Jan 03 13:58:47 <kakobrekla>	and a interface
Jan 03 13:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	and redundancy
Jan 03 14:00:32 <kakobrekla>	ya well to bad im busy coding robots
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Jan 03 14:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9200 @ 0.0037 = 34.04 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 14:23:29 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: there is an opensource blockexplorer called ABE
Jan 03 14:24:38 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 03 14:24:41 <kakobrekla>	could be useful
Jan 03 14:24:58 <pigeons>	wow people (blockchain.info) use mac's for servers
Jan 03 14:25:09 <kakobrekla>	thats why is down all the tim
Jan 03 14:25:10 <kakobrekla>	e
Jan 03 14:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.0037 = 1.665 BTC [+]
Jan 03 14:27:57 <Bugpowder>	uh-oh QE3 may end within the year
Jan 03 14:28:06 <Bugpowder>	my bonds!
Jan 03 14:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	um ?
Jan 03 14:29:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1575 @ 0.00063961 = 1.0074 BTC [-]
Jan 03 14:29:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3035 @ 0.00063773 = 1.9355 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 14:34:35 <Bugpowder>	If yields go up after QE3 ends, bonds are going to get fucking crushed
Jan 03 14:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	so sell
Jan 03 14:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	tho this "qe may end" talk is ridiculous bullshit.
Jan 03 14:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	the day qe ends the us economy ends.
Jan 03 14:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	there's nothing left but inflation by now.
Jan 03 14:38:49 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of porn board, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/15234.html#18007
Jan 03 14:39:02 <Bugpowder>	i don't sell
Jan 03 14:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2415 @ 0.00063773 = 1.5401 BTC [-]
Jan 03 14:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7185 @ 0.00063594 = 4.5692 BTC [-]
Jan 03 14:42:31 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu i put out a feeler and someone has offered me anything i want for a mpex account
Jan 03 14:42:35 <jcpham>	this isn't looking good
Jan 03 14:42:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol wha ?!
Jan 03 14:42:52 <jcpham>	i thought mpex accounts were 20btc and some gpg-fu
Jan 03 14:42:52 <mircea_popescu>	why not good ?
Jan 03 14:43:00 <mircea_popescu>	they're 30
Jan 03 14:43:20 <jcpham>	idk
Jan 03 14:43:31 <jcpham>	"i'll do anything you want" makes me feel icky
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Jan 03 14:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol!
Jan 03 14:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	girl at least ?
Jan 03 14:43:51 <jcpham>	i don't think so at all
Jan 03 14:43:55 <jcpham>	smh
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Jan 03 14:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	so whats a gold eagle go for these days ? over 30 btc ?
Jan 03 14:44:54 <jcpham>	if this person isn't crazy and runs some awesome gold blog, can they have a free mpex account?
Jan 03 14:45:00 <jcpham>	i'd say no myself and make them pay 30btc
Jan 03 14:45:04 <jcpham>	that's me though
Jan 03 14:45:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60000 @ 0.0037 = 222 BTC [+]
Jan 03 14:45:28 <kakobrekla>	exchange it for 30btc worth of adverts
Jan 03 14:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	well, kinda hard to run a blog 30btc worth of awesome, but not impossible
Jan 03 14:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, something like that.
Jan 03 14:45:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00366137 = 2.1968 BTC [-]
Jan 03 14:45:55 <jcpham>	i'm not going to bother you with anyone i haven't vetted
Jan 03 14:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	tho im not even sure what someone'd do with an acct if no monyz in it
Jan 03 14:46:42 <jcpham>	urite
Jan 03 14:46:53 <jcpham>	nwhenuriteurite
Jan 03 14:47:03 <Bugpowder>	S.DICEEEEE
Jan 03 14:49:16 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i wouldn't get my hopes up. people will discover -EV and stop betting anytime now.
Jan 03 14:49:55 <Bugpowder>	My analysis "The New York district attorney’s office says his software was used to make illegal bets in that state between Sept. 2008 and June 2011."  So we have about 3 years left of bountiful plenty
Jan 03 14:50:34 <mircea_popescu>	on the theory that the us lasts till 2015.
Jan 03 14:50:52 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 03 14:51:05 <Bugpowder>	you eastern europeans
Jan 03 14:51:17 <mircea_popescu>	suspicious of anything made recently.
Jan 03 14:51:52 <Bugpowder>	I kinda just want my options deposits back so I can buy through the rest of S.DICE....
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Jan 03 14:52:02 <Bugpowder>	getting close
Jan 03 14:52:07 <Bugpowder>	could be today.
Jan 03 14:54:45 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 03 14:54:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00353735 / 0.00368454 / 0.0037 (139209 shares, 512.92 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00328132 / 0.0037 (12915175 shares, 42,378.87 BTC)
Jan 03 14:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	possibly
Jan 03 14:57:41 <mircea_popescu>	course, if the guy that butchered the last tier with his 10k was only really just beginning...
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Jan 03 15:06:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16315 @ 0.00063594 = 10.3754 BTC [-]
Jan 03 15:06:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1385 @ 0.00063258 = 0.8761 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 15:29:26 <drug_motor>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr2vOuN68zw&hd=1
Jan 03 15:49:42 <honeybadger>	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/01/coder-charged-for-gambling-software/
Jan 03 15:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	honeybadger http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/whats-a-rogue-state/ :p
Jan 03 15:50:59 <honeybadger>	strutting around in their costumes
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Jan 03 15:52:37 <smickles>	anyone here want some of my ppusd?
Jan 03 15:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	this is getting a little bit crazy, 10 deposits the past 5 hours
Jan 03 15:53:14 <honeybadger>	??
Jan 03 15:53:32 <honeybadger>	must buy more dice
Jan 03 15:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1519 @ 0.00366088 = 5.5609 BTC [-]
Jan 03 15:55:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5546 @ 0.0037 = 20.5202 BTC [+]
Jan 03 15:55:44 <mircea_popescu>	i guess not everyone that wanted some got it yet
Jan 03 15:56:27 <jurov>	something is happening
Jan 03 15:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16974811 BTC [+]
Jan 03 15:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.09101032 BTC [+]
Jan 03 15:56:57 <kakobrekla>	y u no wait bb
Jan 03 15:56:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.148 BTC [-]
Jan 03 15:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [-]
Jan 03 15:57:19 <jurov>	it's coinbr users ;)
Jan 03 15:57:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.113 BTC [-]
Jan 03 15:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1 @ 0.168 BTC [+]
Jan 03 15:57:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.07680901 BTC [-]
Jan 03 15:58:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6621 @ 0.00064091 = 4.2435 BTC [+]
Jan 03 15:58:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1996 @ 0.00064712 = 1.2917 BTC [+]
Jan 03 15:58:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31083 @ 0.00065 = 20.204 BTC [+]
Jan 03 15:58:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.19862955 BTC [-]
Jan 03 15:58:27 <jurov>	smickles, how much?
Jan 03 15:58:37 <jcpham>	http://ukoki.com/post/39581957287/the-diy-hedge-fund-analysing-wikipedia-edits-as-a
Jan 03 15:58:40 <smickles>	jurov: heh, how much of what?
Jan 03 15:58:46 <jurov>	teh ppusd
Jan 03 15:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	"I won 16 BTC on satoshidice and promptly used it to buy S.DICE stock.  Already made over 1 BTC on dividends."
Jan 03 15:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha total win
Jan 03 15:59:02 <smickles>	oh, 56.42
Jan 03 16:00:19 <jurov>	well, i just used sdice to touch up the balance for mpex deposit :P
Jan 03 16:00:57 <jurov>	ended up with 1.6btc more, lol
Jan 03 16:04:23 <pizzaman1337>	where can I see what the % dividend returns are on S.DICE? (dividend/share price)
Jan 03 16:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16972395 BTC [-]
Jan 03 16:04:47 <Bugpowder>	divide the number by 10,000,000
Jan 03 16:04:55 <Bugpowder>	then divide by .0037
Jan 03 16:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.09098616 BTC [-]
Jan 03 16:05:06 <smickles>	jurov: are you offering mpexbtc for ppusd?
Jan 03 16:05:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.148 BTC [-]
Jan 03 16:05:16 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 1720/10000000/.0037
Jan 03 16:05:21 <gribble>	0.0464864864865
Jan 03 16:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [-]
Jan 03 16:05:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.113 BTC [-]
Jan 03 16:05:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1 @ 0.168 BTC [+]
Jan 03 16:05:50 <Bugpowder>	still testing that options bot?
Jan 03 16:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.07678775 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 16:06:13 <jurov>	smickles yes, for 0.1 BTC fee. but must figure out how much is avail
Jan 03 16:06:27 <Bugpowder>	blockchain.info is back
Jan 03 16:07:00 <smickles>	Bugpowder: it's a one month test
Jan 03 16:07:50 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu I only see 6 deposits (450BTC)
Jan 03 16:08:03 <Bugpowder>	it might be due to the big reddit S.DICE story
Jan 03 16:08:04 <smickles>	if you are interested in sending btc to it, I'll give you a fair share of profits/losses
Jan 03 16:08:15 <Bugpowder>	sorry smickles I'm building my own bot
Jan 03 16:08:17 <Bugpowder>	 :)
Jan 03 16:08:21 <smickles>	:)
Jan 03 16:08:25 <Bugpowder>	and I WILL BURY YOU
Jan 03 16:08:47 <jurov>	smickles, 4BTC are definitely available ;)
Jan 03 16:08:52 <Bugpowder>	just like Khrushchev
Jan 03 16:10:15 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 03 16:10:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.31571, Best ask: 13.33965, Bid-ask spread: 0.02394, Last trade: 13.31570, 24 hour volume: 18951.43361414, 24 hour low: 13.24897, 24 hour high: 13.46400, 24 hour vwap: 13.34623
Jan 03 16:10:40 <jurov>	;;calc 4.1*13.464
Jan 03 16:10:45 <gribble>	55.2024
Jan 03 16:10:55 <jurov>	smickles here you are
Jan 03 16:11:22 <jurov>	;;calc 4.1*13.34623
Jan 03 16:11:22 <gribble>	54.719543
Jan 03 16:11:31 <jurov>	whatever
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Jan 03 16:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16969705 BTC [-]
Jan 03 16:12:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.09095926 BTC [-]
Jan 03 16:13:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.148 BTC [-]
Jan 03 16:13:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 16:16:37 <jurov>	Bugpowder, u gonna sell bonds?
Jan 03 16:17:58 <smickles>	jurov: so 4.1 mpex btc for 54.72 ppusd?
Jan 03 16:18:28 <jurov>	only 4.0 . the 0.1 is the fee
Jan 03 16:19:24 <smickles>	ok, sounds reasonable for what I bought the ppusd at
Jan 03 16:19:37 <smickles>	send me the address
Jan 03 16:20:58 <jurov>	PMd
Jan 03 16:21:34 <Bugpowder>	jurov, probably not.
Jan 03 16:22:05 <Bugpowder>	with the TNX jump, I might actually pick up some more here.
Jan 03 16:23:22 <jurov>	smickles, all done
Jan 03 16:23:44 <Bugpowder>	The 10-year treasury yield stayed below 3% from 1934 all the way till 1956.
Jan 03 16:24:04 <Bugpowder>	I'm sure the whole time people were thinking yields would rise any day now...
Jan 03 16:26:29 <Bugpowder>	Could take 20 years to deleverage through this K-winter
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Jan 03 16:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	alternatively, it could take 6 weeks.
Jan 03 16:42:30 <mircea_popescu>	anyone;'s guess at this point.
Jan 03 16:44:13 <Bugpowder>	well no.. the deleveraging can't occur that fast, that opportunity came prior to the first big bank bailouts.  However, yields could start going up within 6 weeks.
Jan 03 16:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	why can't it happen that fast ?
Jan 03 16:46:16 <mircea_popescu>	just write off all the us financial sector.
Jan 03 16:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	presto, it's now deleveraged.
Jan 03 16:46:40 <smickles>	debt jubilee (sp?)
Jan 03 16:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	GNP on par with Chad for a decade or so, and all that.
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Jan 03 16:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.0006338 = 10.1408 BTC [-]
Jan 03 16:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12420 @ 0.00063258 = 7.8566 BTC [-]
Jan 03 17:00:58 <smickles>	I love this. SOEBOT bidding higher and higher for things, MPOEBOT bidding lower and lower for things
Jan 03 17:01:23 <Bugpowder>	and never the twain shall meet
Jan 03 17:03:13 <smickles>	heh, nifty, yet at the end of last month the prototype was bidding higher than mpoebot, so, if the pattern holds, the will eventually meet
Jan 03 17:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 356 @ 0.00369999 = 1.3172 BTC [-]
Jan 03 17:06:27 <smickles>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 03 17:06:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00353735 / 0.00368492 / 0.0037 (146630 shares, 540.32 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00328155 / 0.0037 (12922596 shares, 42,406.27 BTC)
Jan 03 17:07:11 <jurov>	fund both bots with 5digit sums. watch hilarity ensue
Jan 03 17:07:39 <smickles>	hilarity, or price stabilization
Jan 03 17:07:58 <Bugpowder>	;ticker
Jan 03 17:08:05 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 03 17:08:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37513, Best ask: 13.39950, Bid-ask spread: 0.02437, Last trade: 13.37513, 24 hour volume: 18956.99709514, 24 hour low: 13.24897, 24 hour high: 13.46400, 24 hour vwap: 13.34900
Jan 03 17:08:06 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 03 17:08:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37513, Best ask: 13.39950, Bid-ask spread: 0.02437, Last trade: 13.37513, 24 hour volume: 18956.99709514, 24 hour low: 13.24897, 24 hour high: 13.46400, 24 hour vwap: 13.34900
Jan 03 17:08:27 <Bugpowder>	is that what happened to BTCUSD?
Jan 03 17:09:52 <pigeons>	oh want me to turn off my btcusd stabilization bots?
Jan 03 17:09:55 <pigeons>	sorry
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Jan 03 17:11:11 <jurov>	BTCUSD STABILIZATION ENGAGED
Jan 03 17:11:59 <smickles>	actually, I use 11 digit sums
Jan 03 17:12:42 <smickles>	mircea_popescu seems to use 'whatever' digit sums
Jan 03 17:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	eh ?
Jan 03 17:13:01 <smickles>	bot funding
Jan 03 17:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	no digits in btc :D
Jan 03 17:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	onlt toes
Jan 03 17:14:16 <smickles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWTgvRGwzWg
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Jan 03 17:23:17 <jurov>	Yes, I think one of the main issues is the assets being 'titled' in CoinBR's name and not the user's.
Jan 03 17:23:26 <jurov>	^ hard to argue with such "issues"
Jan 03 17:24:13 <kakobrekla>	url?
Jan 03 17:24:17 <thestringpuller>	mr. smickles
Jan 03 17:24:19 <smickles>	'cause you know, all assets have the user's name in the title
Jan 03 17:24:25 <thestringpuller>	om
Jan 03 17:24:27 <thestringpuller>	pm
Jan 03 17:24:30 <smickles>	thestringpuller: Howdy :)
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Jan 03 17:24:55 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.20
Jan 03 17:25:33 <Bugpowder>	"Hi Everyone, we've decided to launch our own S.DICE passthru fund on https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=SDICE "
Jan 03 17:27:03 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 03 17:27:21 <Bugpowder>	wut? http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-gas-goes-below-absolute-zero-1.12146
Jan 03 17:28:10 <jurov>	Bugpowder, do these two things have something in common?
Jan 03 17:28:27 <Bugpowder>	yes.
Jan 03 17:28:32 <Bugpowder>	I saw them sequentially
Jan 03 17:28:42 <jurov>	like, "look s.dice passthrough, hell froze over"
Jan 03 17:28:45 <Bugpowder>	lol
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Jan 03 17:29:07 <Bugpowder>	I wonder if this is like a really amazing breakthru or not
Jan 03 17:30:04 <jurov>	it is maybe for overclockers
Jan 03 17:31:08 <kakobrekla>	cpu wont work under abs 0
Jan 03 17:31:28 <Bugpowder>	they say some weird things
Jan 03 17:31:41 <Bugpowder>	like gravity affect reverses below zero
Jan 03 17:32:22 <pigeons>	ok i'll start a s.dice passthrough on btct.no
Jan 03 17:32:50 <kakobrekla>	if they would done the experiment in russia they would get a couple of billionths of a Kelvin lower
Jan 03 17:33:12 <jurov>	pigeons, it's already there
Jan 03 17:33:54 <kakobrekla>	imma gonna open havelock sdice passthrogh on GLBSE
Jan 03 17:34:30 <smickles>	kakobrekla: don't forget the mpex synth listing too
Jan 03 17:34:43 <jurov>	i can't wait till they start duplicating our bonds passthrough, too
Jan 03 17:34:47 <kakobrekla>	yea yeah backpassthrough
Jan 03 17:35:01 <pigeons>	im gonna pass trhough to kak's PT via litecoinglobal
Jan 03 17:35:14 <kakobrekla>	lets do it!
Jan 03 17:35:17 <smickles>	yo dawg
Jan 03 17:36:06 <jurov>	Ukto, I have got genial idea. Let's make passthrough on bitfunder... to itself
Jan 03 17:36:41 <Ukto>	0,o
Jan 03 17:36:48 <jurov>	the asset name shall be CoinBr.INCEPTION
Jan 03 17:37:37 <pigeons>	it's be like an eminem album about how his last albulm where he raps about his last album sucking sucked
Jan 03 17:38:32 <jurov>	Ukto, you store plaintext passwords on bitfunder????!!!!
Jan 03 17:38:53 <kakobrekla>	no they are base64 encoded!
Jan 03 17:38:56 <Ukto>	no ?
Jan 03 17:39:14 <jurov>	sorry i mixed something in my head
Jan 03 17:39:23 <Ukto>	-_-
Jan 03 17:39:24 <pigeons>	ROT13
Jan 03 17:39:36 <Ukto>	passes are bcrypted
Jan 03 17:40:17 <pigeons>	just like dr. nefario reccomends
Jan 03 17:40:34 <kakobrekla>	lolz
Jan 03 17:41:38 <jurov>	my bad. we had PM with ukto about my password and i conflated it. i vouch for bitfunder sound practices
Jan 03 17:42:09 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 03 17:42:23 <Ukto>	its those extra voices in your head
Jan 03 17:42:26 <Ukto>	mine confuse me sometimes too
Jan 03 17:42:28 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 03 17:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16976363 BTC [+]
Jan 03 17:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.09048435 BTC [-]
Jan 03 17:48:24 <Bugpowder>	The Passthru Centipede
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Jan 03 17:55:25 <FabianB>	heh, why did someone buy lots of G.SDICE on bitfunder _after_ div payment for 0.004?
Jan 03 17:55:39 <kakobrekla>	to make sure the div come
Jan 03 17:55:42 <kakobrekla>	;>
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Jan 03 18:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder that's interesting... they never told me about it.
Jan 03 18:06:09 <mircea_popescu>	G.SDICE ?
Jan 03 18:06:24 <mircea_popescu>	omfg people need to come to standard names. what's g. ? galinaceae ?
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Jan 03 18:07:16 <iz>	G is short for Gangsta, obviously
Jan 03 18:08:09 <FabianB>	it says Gamma SatoshiDice Pass Through
Jan 03 18:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	ic.
Jan 03 18:09:17 <mircea_popescu>	so did the havelook ppl issue any sort of proof they hold shares or anything ?
Jan 03 18:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00367288 = 1.8364 BTC [-]
Jan 03 18:10:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00367289 = 9.1822 BTC [+]
Jan 03 18:10:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 644 @ 0.00369999 = 2.3828 BTC [+]
Jan 03 18:10:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16356 @ 0.0037 = 60.5172 BTC [+]
Jan 03 18:14:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11820 @ 0.00064999 = 7.6829 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 18:26:18 <smickles>	wow, I should pay more attention b/f letting my eyes widen like that. [s.dice] @ .0037 was not followed by [s.dice] @ .0064999
Jan 03 18:28:00 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134568.0
Jan 03 18:29:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1217 @ 0.00369999 = 4.5029 BTC [-]
Jan 03 18:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 03 18:29:56 <smickles>	wth is that '*' supposed to refer to?
Jan 03 18:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	72 terra hash/s bitcoin mine. The hashing hardware consists of 1000 bASIC boards provided by BTCFPGA, LLC. Today’s network hashing power is 3 times lower than 72TH/s but this situation will change dramatically in the next 2 months before the deployment of the hardware.
Jan 03 18:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	lmao fucking scam
Jan 03 18:31:37 <Ukto>	k
Jan 03 18:31:43 <Ukto>	i wont say my thoughts but...
Jan 03 18:31:45 <Ukto>	http://picostocks.com/businessplan/17
Jan 03 18:31:48 <Ukto>	pic at bottom of page 4
Jan 03 18:32:13 <Ukto>	does that make you think of any recent movie actors who played a great roll in a dc comics movie, who suicided? >,>
Jan 03 18:32:51 <Ukto>	whoops
Jan 03 18:32:53 <Ukto>	wrong char
Jan 03 18:33:33 <Ukto>	i was thinking https://www.google.com/search?q=dark+knight+rises+scarecrow&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NRXmUK3SBOaA2wXQpoGoDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1422&bih=769
Jan 03 18:33:39 <pigeons>	just what the world needs more of!
Jan 03 18:33:42 <pigeons>	http://www.lendmecoin.com/
Jan 03 18:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	The venture has 1M shares. The minimum price is 0.06BTC per share so the minimum valuation of the project is 798k USD at an USD/BTC
Jan 03 18:34:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 03 18:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	no, srsly.
Jan 03 18:36:48 <jurov>	the business plan is interesting too.. they want to build 100kW datacenter. no prior experience
Jan 03 18:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 03 18:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	no proof of payment of basics
Jan 03 18:37:07 <mircea_popescu>	tom isn't even selling that many
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Jan 03 18:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 283 @ 0.00369999 = 1.0471 BTC [-]
Jan 03 18:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 29388 @ 0.0037 = 108.7356 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 18:46:14 <Ukto>	100Kw datacenter isnt that much
Jan 03 18:46:38 <Ukto>	My 2,500 sqft facility was 600Kw
Jan 03 18:47:04 <Ukto>	your talking like.. 100amps @ 440v 3-phase.
Jan 03 18:47:43 <Ukto>	but if they have no prior experience in things yeah, thats alot
Jan 03 18:48:40 <Ukto>	they would need at least 30tons of HVAC tho... figure around $35k if using chilled water units... $100k+ for condensor systems
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Jan 03 19:06:33 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104489.msg1433281#msg1433281
Jan 03 19:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto it's pure fantasy
Jan 03 19:07:10 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Jan 03 19:07:14 <mircea_popescu>	1000 basics ? what 1000 basics ? basics are fully sold out on preorders and 300 projected anyway
Jan 03 19:07:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol what's the story tghere
Jan 03 19:07:52 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: I know
Jan 03 19:07:57 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: u like that? :P
Jan 03 19:08:12 <kakobrekla>	i dont care, i think bakewell is baked well
Jan 03 19:08:18 <Ukto>	hahaha
Jan 03 19:08:24 <Ukto>	he does do some crazy stuff
Jan 03 19:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 17000 @ 0.0037 = 62.9 BTC [+]
Jan 03 19:08:42 <Ukto>	he surprised me with it as well
Jan 03 19:08:46 <kakobrekla>	yea put a sock on the head instead shoe
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Jan 03 19:15:05 <mircea_popescu>	so why the move ?
Jan 03 19:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	is it sikrit ?
Jan 03 19:19:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063381 = 6.3381 BTC [-]
Jan 03 19:20:12 <Ukto>	he said he did not agree with the administration policies of btct
Jan 03 19:20:13 <Ukto>	thats all
Jan 03 19:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Jan 03 19:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00366001 = 3.66 BTC [-]
Jan 03 19:26:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0036527 = 3.6527 BTC [-]
Jan 03 19:26:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 540 @ 0.00365269 = 1.9725 BTC [-]
Jan 03 19:28:25 <StarenseN>	!help
Jan 03 19:28:27 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 03 19:28:28 <assbot>	!ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current MPEX ticker values)
Jan 03 19:30:22 *	Ukto pokes Diablo-D3
Jan 03 19:30:28 <Ukto>	whenever you are ready bud
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Jan 03 19:35:18 <pigeons>	;;ident honeybooboo
Jan 03 19:35:18 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Jan 03 19:39:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00369999 = 7.4 BTC [+]
Jan 03 19:39:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0037 = 2.59 BTC [+]
Jan 03 19:42:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00369999 = 7.03 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 20:05:32 <Anduck>	hewwo
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Jan 03 20:05:41 <Anduck>	when will S.DICE pay divs ?
Jan 03 20:06:45 <pigeons>	next month again
Jan 03 20:06:48 <Bugpowder>	Feb 1
Jan 03 20:06:50 <Bugpowder>	or 2
Jan 03 20:08:24 <Bugpowder>	If we project this months betting volume, it should be around 7.7%, plus or minus 5%
Jan 03 20:09:16 <Anduck>	well, when did it pay divs last time?
Jan 03 20:09:31 <pigeons>	jan 2
Jan 03 20:09:33 <Anduck>	ok
Jan 03 20:09:54 <Anduck>	how much was it?
Jan 03 20:10:08 <Anduck>	%?
Jan 03 20:10:50 <Anduck>	i just received my divs - from a broker
Jan 03 20:10:53 <pigeons>	1720.64488847 BTC
Jan 03 20:11:00 <Anduck>	how much is it as %?
Jan 03 20:11:23 <pigeons>	ask your broker ;)O
Jan 03 20:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	7%?
Jan 03 20:12:22 <Anduck>	=P
Jan 03 20:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck about 5.2% ish
Jan 03 20:12:25 <Anduck>	aight
Jan 03 20:12:31 <Bugpowder>	mp
Jan 03 20:12:38 <Bugpowder>	150,000 bet so far this month
Jan 03 20:12:44 <Anduck>	lol
Jan 03 20:12:45 <Anduck>	so much
Jan 03 20:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	jesus god.
Jan 03 20:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	anduck :
Jan 03 20:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 17206 satoshi per share
Jan 03 20:13:07 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Jan 03 20:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol i mean, 17.2k satoshi per share
Jan 03 20:13:30 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 150000*31/3*.019/.0037/10000000
Jan 03 20:13:30 <gribble>	0.795945945946
Jan 03 20:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder 150k this month ? what month ? these two days ?
Jan 03 20:13:38 <Bugpowder>	yes
Jan 03 20:13:43 <pigeons>	yep
Jan 03 20:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	it's not staying 37 at this rate.
Jan 03 20:13:55 <Bugpowder>	three days
Jan 03 20:14:03 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: "so much" was meant as "lol so much bet'd"
Jan 03 20:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	its funny, s.dice return was 5.2%, mpbor was 4.99%
Jan 03 20:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	basically, you can pcik your poison and make 5% a month.
Jan 03 20:14:20 <mircea_popescu>	very different risks
Jan 03 20:14:23 <Bugpowder>	I have moved all my coins, except for the options I'm still selling into S.DICE
Jan 03 20:14:32 <Bugpowder>	no loss risk with S.DICE
Jan 03 20:14:34 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 03 20:14:39 <Bugpowder>	equity risk
Jan 03 20:14:42 <Bugpowder>	if Erik gets arrested
Jan 03 20:14:52 <Bugpowder>	but that is like probably 2 years away
Jan 03 20:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	it could have 0 divs
Jan 03 20:15:56 <mircea_popescu>	and a lump to pay for next month
Jan 03 20:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	so yea, very diff risk profiles.
Jan 03 20:16:29 <Bugpowder>	yeah but MBOPR lost 45% one month
Jan 03 20:16:37 <Bugpowder>	that requires 90% gain to recover from
Jan 03 20:16:47 <Anduck>	whats MBOPR?
Jan 03 20:17:16 <Bugpowder>	MPBOR
Jan 03 20:17:18 <Bugpowder>	sorry
Jan 03 20:17:30 <Anduck>	what is it?
Jan 03 20:17:35 <Anduck>	asset for what?
Jan 03 20:17:51 <Bugpowder>	bonds backing the options market making bot on MPEX
Jan 03 20:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	yea also true.
Jan 03 20:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	then again... what's more likely ?
Jan 03 20:18:47 <Bugpowder>	is past prelude?
Jan 03 20:19:03 <Bugpowder>	I think MBPOR is probably a good investment
Jan 03 20:19:15 <Bugpowder>	at 5%
Jan 03 20:19:36 <Bugpowder>	but I think S.DICE, at this valuation, is better
Jan 03 20:19:47 <Bugpowder>	due to immenent equity price rise
Jan 03 20:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	i think so too, it's been pent up for too long
Jan 03 20:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	its unlikely current price reflects true market valuation, and it's unlikely that true valuation be on the lower end
Jan 03 20:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	since it was free moving on the lower end
Jan 03 20:20:57 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 03 20:21:03 <Ukto>	wholey crap
Jan 03 20:21:12 <Ukto>	i posted my s.dice shares @ 0.0050/share
Jan 03 20:21:14 <Ukto>	just to put up a wall
Jan 03 20:21:17 <Ukto>	someone bought them
Jan 03 20:21:25 <Ukto>	well, a quarter
Jan 03 20:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 03 20:21:40 <Bugpowder>	amazing what price discovery will find
Jan 03 20:21:46 <Bugpowder>	when there is no IPO wall
Jan 03 20:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	ya.
Jan 03 20:21:59 <Ukto>	mebbe i will raise my price heh
Jan 03 20:22:00 <Bugpowder>	.005 seems a bit cheap
Jan 03 20:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	and the thing is, AFTER ipo sells out, which hasn't happened yet, there's 30 days lockdown
Jan 03 20:22:15 <Bugpowder>	??
Jan 03 20:22:26 <Bugpowder>	no secondary issuing?
Jan 03 20:22:34 <Bugpowder>	for 30 days?  or what?
Jan 03 20:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	yea.
Jan 03 20:22:43 *	Ukto ups to 0.1btc per share >,>
Jan 03 20:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	(c)The representatives of SatoshiDice warrant that no further shares will be offered by them for a period of 30 days from the date these offered shares are sold.
Jan 03 20:23:08 <Bugpowder>	A secondary at .0075 would be reasonable
Jan 03 20:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	erik's call
Jan 03 20:23:50 <Bugpowder>	tempted to open my physicals
Jan 03 20:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	well, and all the shareholder's obviously.
Jan 03 20:23:57 <Bugpowder>	and deposit more
Jan 03 20:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	well... if mpex tempts then mpex has succeeded.
Jan 03 20:25:17 <Bugpowder>	800BTC to go
Jan 03 20:34:57 <Bugpowder>	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-03/bitcoin-making-online-gambling-legal-in-the-u-dot-s-dot
Jan 03 20:35:29 <Bugpowder>	"Erik Voorhees, director of marketing and communications at BitInstant, helped design SatoshiDice, a gambling site hosted in Ireland and owned by an anonymous investor. "
Jan 03 20:35:46 <Bugpowder>	O-o
Jan 03 20:38:11 <Ukto>	"Silk Road, which processes an estimated $1.2 million a month in sales of illegal drugs"
Jan 03 20:38:15 <Ukto>	thats a pretty amazing number
Jan 03 20:38:25 <Ukto>	i guess if you include memberships fees
Jan 03 20:38:30 <Ukto>	that would make up 50% of it
Jan 03 20:38:30 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 03 20:38:36 <Ukto>	mebbe they havent SEEN silkroad.
Jan 03 20:38:49 <Bugpowder>	it takes about 5 minutes of effort to get there
Jan 03 20:39:03 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: find dat ff7 yet?
Jan 03 20:39:06 <Ukto>	its media, and based on the comment, tehy did not look
Jan 03 20:39:17 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: i uh no
Jan 03 20:39:18 <Ukto>	-_-
Jan 03 20:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	heheeh
Jan 03 20:40:09 <Bugpowder>	I imagine the street value is actually much higher than 1.2MM
Jan 03 20:40:14 <Ukto>	"Gavin Andresen, chief scientist at Bitcoin Foundation"
Jan 03 20:40:17 <Ukto>	whered that title come from? 0,o
Jan 03 20:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	its why the foundation exists lol
Jan 03 20:40:29 <Bugpowder>	exactly
Jan 03 20:40:34 <Bugpowder>	it helps with the mainstream PR
Jan 03 20:40:41 <Ukto>	oh heh
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Jan 03 20:42:28 <thestringpuller>	this conversation isn't helping me get my ff7
Jan 03 20:48:41 <Bugpowder>	new whale? 013-01-04 00:45:25	lessthan 32768	6b535440	d96ed541	1AnixjB	CONFIRMED	400.00000000	ABOVE MAX	400.00000000	59773
Jan 03 20:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	heh'
Jan 03 20:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	75 huh ?
Jan 03 20:57:46 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be a 100% gain and more.
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Jan 03 21:10:24 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35775.msg1432008#msg1432008
Jan 03 21:16:03 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 03 21:18:01 <pigeons>	was also usagi bait too
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Jan 03 21:23:16 <gladoscc>	wow
Jan 03 21:23:21 <gladoscc>	is it just me or is bitfunder's color scheme hideous
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Jan 03 21:26:14 <Ukto>	http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/0509/technology-psilocybin-bitcoins-gavin-andresen-crypto-currency.html <-- how i think of gavin
Jan 03 21:26:23 <Ukto>	gladoscc: its horrid
Jan 03 21:26:41 <Ukto>	you should post in the bitfunder thread with a suggestion to redo it with
Jan 03 21:27:55 <Ukto>	mebbe there can be a coloscheme selector for people
Jan 03 21:28:03 <Ukto>	do all kinda colors sets.. 'sunset' etc
Jan 03 21:28:06 <Ukto>	cust background images
Jan 03 21:28:13 <Ukto>	like the failed IE skins
Jan 03 21:28:25 <gladoscc>	maybe you know
Jan 03 21:28:33 <Graet>	ooh nice - he has aussie $20 ijn front - propably coz its worth more than a usd :P
Jan 03 21:28:33 <gladoscc>	LOOK at your site before going to colorpicker.com
Jan 03 21:28:41 <gladoscc>	picking two random colors that are close
Jan 03 21:28:47 <gladoscc>	and completely disregard color theory
Jan 03 21:29:25 <Ukto>	defenitely did not follow any color theory
Jan 03 21:29:41 <Ukto>	which two random colors that are close are you reffering to?
Jan 03 21:29:47 <Ukto>	and I dont recall going to colorpicker hehe
Jan 03 21:30:02 <gladoscc>	Ukto: you developed bitfunder?
Jan 03 21:30:08 <Ukto>	Yes. :)
Jan 03 21:30:14 <Ukto>	Changes / ideas are always welcome.
Jan 03 21:30:17 <gladoscc>	:o
Jan 03 21:30:49 <Graet>	not all programmers/deveopers have a good eye for colour
Jan 03 21:30:50 <Graet>	:D
Jan 03 21:30:57 <Ukto>	thas defenitely not me
Jan 03 21:31:00 <Ukto>	hehe
Jan 03 21:31:04 <Graet>	:P
Jan 03 21:31:10 <Ukto>	if it makes you happy, I may even let people make a 'custome' color set
Jan 03 21:31:26 <gladoscc>	Ukto: try this -webkit-linear-gradient(top,#1282C0,#0817CA);
Jan 03 21:31:37 <gladoscc>	chrome, select element, change navbar-inner. looks much better.
Jan 03 21:32:10 <Ukto>	weird, pretty sure i used webkit linear gadients
Jan 03 21:32:15 <Ukto>	well, at least at the top bar
Jan 03 21:32:23 <Ukto>	stil debating making it solid blue
Jan 03 21:32:41 <gladoscc>	no, I mean, different colors
Jan 03 21:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00367857 = 1.4714 BTC [-]
Jan 03 21:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 308 @ 0.00365465 = 1.1256 BTC [-]
Jan 03 21:32:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1297 @ 0.0036527 = 4.7376 BTC [-]
Jan 03 21:32:58 <gladoscc>	current one looks like... Geocities.
Jan 03 21:33:00 <gladoscc>	You get what I mean?
Jan 03 21:33:27 <gladoscc>	All you need is 5 'UNDER CONSTRUCTION' GIFs, a neon hit counter and "Best viewed in Internet Explorer 4"
Jan 03 21:33:28 <Bugpowder>	solid blue.... METRO
Jan 03 21:33:33 <gladoscc>	metro sucks
Jan 03 21:33:35 <Bugpowder>	<blink>
Jan 03 21:33:37 <gladoscc>	especially if you're using bootstrap.
Jan 03 21:34:02 <Ukto>	.. that. would be epic
Jan 03 21:34:11 <gladoscc>	speaking of which, I need to get back to working on my project instead of procrastinating.
Jan 03 21:34:11 *	Ukto tries to dig up some old geocities under contruction images
Jan 03 21:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18105 @ 0.000633 = 11.4605 BTC [-]
Jan 03 21:37:28 <Ukto>	gladoscc: there you go
Jan 03 21:37:40 <Ukto>	but now it draws out the black borderlines between nav buttons :P
Jan 03 21:38:00 *	gladoscc investigates
Jan 03 21:38:30 <Ukto>	so by 'horrid' earlier, you simply ment the gradient ? :P
Jan 03 21:39:08 <gladoscc>	yep :P, border-right: 1px solid blah; border-left: 1px solid blah; if you want to change the black gradients
Jan 03 21:39:18 <gladoscc>	also are you aware that the active class is applied to home even if you're on another page?
Jan 03 21:39:32 <Ukto>	honestly
Jan 03 21:39:32 <Ukto>	no
Jan 03 21:39:35 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 03 21:39:40 <Ukto>	i will fix it up in a bit
Jan 03 21:39:54 <Ukto>	trying to push on the interactive api docs atm
Jan 03 21:40:29 <gladoscc>	I like how the site is responsive
Jan 03 21:40:41 <Ukto>	its prolly slow atm heh
Jan 03 21:40:51 <gladoscc>	"honestly no" to ?
Jan 03 21:40:52 <Ukto>	doing some extracarricular activity on the server atm
Jan 03 21:40:58 <Ukto>	to the home active class
Jan 03 21:41:03 <Ukto>	bootstrap must be fucking up somewhere
Jan 03 21:41:19 <Ukto>	or i set it somewhere
Jan 03 21:41:22 <gladoscc>	you did
Jan 03 21:41:28 <gladoscc>	I encountere the same thing on my site literally 2 hours ago
Jan 03 21:41:35 <gladoscc>	so.
Jan 03 21:41:39 <Ukto>	you sure is active?
Jan 03 21:41:43 <Ukto>	it doesnt seem to highlight it
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Jan 03 21:41:54 <Ukto>	at least not on the market page
Jan 03 21:42:04 <pigeons>	gladoscc: how do you like the mpex colors?
Jan 03 21:42:16 <Ukto>	pigeons: LOL
Jan 03 21:42:20 <JWU42>	heh
Jan 03 21:42:21 <gladoscc>	pigeons: lol
Jan 03 21:42:21 <Ukto>	I wasnt going to go there :P
Jan 03 21:42:38 <gladoscc>	Ukto: it is active in chrome, when logged out
Jan 03 21:42:51 <gladoscc>	<ul class="nav"> <li class="active"><a href="/">Home</a></li> <li class=""><a href="/news">News</a></li> <li class=""><a href="/assetlist">Assets List</a></li> <li class="active"><a style="border-left: none;" href="/terms">Terms and Conditions</a></li> </ul>
Jan 03 21:42:52 <Ukto>	weird
Jan 03 21:42:54 <Ukto>	it does remain active
Jan 03 21:42:56 <Ukto>	when logged out
Jan 03 21:42:59 <Ukto>	i will check that later
Jan 03 21:43:07 <kakobrekla>	yeah i see the same
Jan 03 21:43:09 <gladoscc>	probably because you're matching /, so /terms would return true
Jan 03 21:43:13 <kakobrekla>	home is always active
Jan 03 21:43:23 <Ukto>	nah, not how it works
Jan 03 21:43:30 <Ukto>	but
Jan 03 21:43:46 <Ukto>	i need to find a capable gfx guy to make a nice icon for the site.
Jan 03 21:43:50 <gladoscc>	<
Jan 03 21:43:53 <Ukto>	was thinking of doing a blue b like from that reminds me.. i need
Jan 03 21:43:55 <Ukto>	er
Jan 03 21:43:55 <gladoscc>	:)
Jan 03 21:43:59 <Ukto>	like from http://blogs-images.forbes.com/thumbnails/blog_2060/pt_2060_531_o.jpg?t=1343857647
Jan 03 21:44:04 <Ukto>	but it needs to be stylized..
Jan 03 21:44:12 <Ukto>	a solid color looks like ass
Jan 03 21:44:29 <gladoscc>	I could do that for a few coins
Jan 03 21:44:34 <Ukto>	mebbe somehow show the F within the B
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Jan 03 21:44:42 <Ukto>	since you can fit an F into it
Jan 03 21:44:59 <gladoscc>	Ukto: you can, but it's going to look ugly cause B is curved/rounded
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Jan 03 21:45:04 <Ukto>	yeah
Jan 03 21:45:12 <Ukto>	the B can be reshaped a bit for that tho
Jan 03 21:45:17 <gladoscc>	and unless you want F to look like |c
Jan 03 21:45:18 <Ukto>	and it makes sense to do it that way
Jan 03 21:45:46 <Ukto>	besides, if I dont add the F... it looks more like glbse's old logo
Jan 03 21:45:51 <pigeons>	do it like this: http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/
Jan 03 21:46:03 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 03 21:46:07 <gladoscc>	prehaps do it like facebook.com
Jan 03 21:46:11 <gladoscc>	except obviously not using the facebook font.
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Jan 03 21:46:31 <pigeons>	yeah but i cant fucking stand those facebook colors for real
Jan 03 21:47:05 <Ukto>	pigeons: did you see my earlier comments about pre-made tempaltes and user customizations? :P
Jan 03 21:47:18 <Ukto>	I was half serious about putting skine dthemes together :P
Jan 03 21:47:24 <Ukto>	a nice beach sunrise in the background
Jan 03 21:47:25 <Ukto>	>:P~
Jan 03 21:47:28 <gladoscc>	Ukto: hope you're really half serious
Jan 03 21:47:32 <gladoscc>	cause userscripts.
Jan 03 21:47:50 <Ukto>	honestly, something like that would be alot more work than I have time for atm ;)
Jan 03 21:48:25 <gladoscc>	I need to
Jan 03 21:48:29 <gladoscc>	actually develop something myself
Jan 03 21:49:01 <gladoscc>	but the last thing we need is another exchange
Jan 03 21:49:13 <Ukto>	so how about you be creative for a logo icon, somethign that can be made into a nice looking favicon also, and if i like it, we can talk price ?
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Jan 03 21:52:11 <gladoscc>	Ukto: I'm working on another project for someone at the moment, I think I'll do that first anyways.
Jan 03 21:52:24 <Ukto>	thats fine. :) thanks for the offer
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Jan 03 21:56:12 *	gladoscc ponders investing in sdice or mpex on bitfunder..
Jan 03 21:57:46 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: ff7 :P
Jan 03 21:58:03 <Ukto>	dmnit
Jan 03 21:58:04 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 03 21:58:12 <honeybadger>	any cobra to eat?
Jan 03 21:58:31 <Ukto>	You've been stung stupid.
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Jan 03 22:02:42 <honeybadger>	oh, ok. back to sleep
Jan 03 22:03:26 <honeybadger>	<yawns> with 22 confirmations on a coinbr deposit yet no funding .....
Jan 03 22:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00063259 = 2.9732 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 22:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.000633 = 16.9644 BTC [+]
Jan 03 22:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 919 @ 0.00369999 = 3.4003 BTC [+]
Jan 03 22:15:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 181 @ 0.00369999 = 0.6697 BTC [+]
Jan 03 22:15:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 26119 @ 0.0037 = 96.6403 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 22:18:14 <smickles>	honeybadger: do you know why a coinbr deposit might take that long?
Jan 03 22:18:52 <smickles>	I don't think they keep a floating balance on mpex, so any deposit has to wait on the manual deposit process of mpex
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Jan 03 22:19:27 <smickles>	hey mircea_popescu, you don't even like dark bitter beer?
Jan 03 22:19:56 <honeybadger>	mickles, I think they have to be manually approved and someone is sleeping?
Jan 03 22:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	i don't hate it at least.
Jan 03 22:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3025 @ 0.0037 = 11.1925 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 23:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1203 @ 0.0036527 = 4.3942 BTC [-]
Jan 03 23:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 97 @ 0.00365269 = 0.3543 BTC [-]
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Jan 03 23:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 170 @ 0.00365269 = 0.621 BTC [-]
Jan 03 23:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 173 @ 0.00364994 = 0.6314 BTC [-]
Jan 03 23:32:56 <gladoscc>	hi mircea_popescu
Jan 03 23:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	hi.
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Jan 03 23:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 03 23:54:24 <gladoscc>	Oh wow. "Paid Content  This article is available for a fee.  Articles published on Trilema are available based on a credits system."
Jan 03 23:54:35 <gribble>	Time since last block: 28 minutes and 24 seconds
Jan 03 23:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	yea...
Jan 03 23:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1057 @ 0.00362779 = 3.8346 BTC [-]
Jan 03 23:55:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 393 @ 0.00367396 = 1.4439 BTC [+]
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Jan 03 23:56:37 <gladoscc>	I have a feeling it'd cost more time to process payments for $1.
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Jan 03 23:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 176 @ 0.00367396 = 0.6466 BTC [+]
Jan 03 23:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 874 @ 0.0037 = 3.2338 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 00:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 04 00:08:29 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 53 seconds
Jan 04 00:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Jan 04 00:11:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00063258 / 0.00063932 / 0.00065 (225899 shares, 144.42 BTC), 30day: 0.00050643 / 0.00059349 / 0.00066 (62728158 shares, 37,229.09 BTC)
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Jan 04 00:20:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00361595 = 8.6783 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 00:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 04 00:26:25 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 21 seconds
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Jan 04 00:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8253 @ 0.000633 = 5.2241 BTC [+]
Jan 04 00:56:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1604 @ 0.0037 = 5.9348 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 01:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00360675 = 6.6725 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 02:09:46 <StarenseN>	hello any1 can help me about a Mpex command ?
Jan 04 02:15:03 <pigeons>	we won't know till you tell us
Jan 04 02:21:48 <StarenseN>	I'm using pympex, and does the command DEPOSIT work?
Jan 04 02:23:03 <StarenseN>	mpex.py DEPOSIT|10 for example
Jan 04 02:23:22 <StarenseN>	10 is not recognized as a internal command
Jan 04 02:23:55 <StarenseN>	it should be DEPOSIT|{sum}
Jan 04 02:24:14 <StarenseN>	is {sum} = 10 ok ?
Jan 04 02:26:04 <StarenseN>	pigeons
Jan 04 02:26:39 <StarenseN>	any ideas?
Jan 04 02:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00064776 = 5.8298 BTC [+]
Jan 04 02:33:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00064777 = 0.1619 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 02:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00064777 = 8.2591 BTC [+]
Jan 04 02:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5512 @ 0.00064999 = 3.5827 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 02:46:57 <StarenseN>	ok got it had to leave { }
Jan 04 02:47:19 <StarenseN>	so DEPOSIT|{10} is working
Jan 04 02:47:55 <mod6>	you don't need the {}
Jan 04 02:48:32 <StarenseN>	mpex.py DEPOSIT{10}
Jan 04 02:48:41 <StarenseN>	is the only working command
Jan 04 02:49:01 <mod6>	oh heh. I just always did it like: DEPOSIT|10
Jan 04 02:49:17 <StarenseN>	with pympex ?
Jan 04 02:49:52 <mod6>	na, i have my own scripts
Jan 04 02:49:56 <mod6>	i guess I don't use that.
Jan 04 02:50:02 <mod6>	sorry. haha
Jan 04 02:50:43 <mod6>	well, when I did all of my orders by hand, i did them that way. works great.
Jan 04 02:53:33 <mod6>	StarenseN: try maybe: ./mpex.py "DEPOSIT|10"
Jan 04 02:53:34 <mod6>	?
Jan 04 02:53:52 <pigeons>	StarenseN: i don't use pymex, i use echo 'DEPOSIT|20'|gpg --clearsign|gpg --encrypt --armor -r F1B69921
Jan 04 02:54:11 <mod6>	or this too ^^^^
Jan 04 02:55:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2668 @ 0.00064999 = 1.7342 BTC [+]
Jan 04 02:55:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3630 @ 0.00065 = 2.3595 BTC [+]
Jan 04 02:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4252 @ 0.00065061 = 2.7664 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 03:23:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1537 @ 0.00365469 = 5.6173 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 03:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1500 @ 0.0049 = 7.35 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 03:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00365469 = 1.0964 BTC [+]
Jan 04 03:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4460 @ 0.00065061 = 2.9017 BTC [+]
Jan 04 03:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11940 @ 0.00065068 = 7.7691 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 04:17:19 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Jan 04 04:17:19 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades
Jan 04 04:17:19 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 12:40:09 2012
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Jan 04 04:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.0036536 = 4.2016 BTC [-]
Jan 04 04:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 513 @ 0.00365469 = 1.8749 BTC [+]
Jan 04 04:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3450 @ 0.00368776 = 12.7228 BTC [+]
Jan 04 04:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 120606 @ 0.0037 = 446.2422 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 04:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8108 @ 0.0037 = 29.9996 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 05:02:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00364303 = 4.7359 BTC [-]
Jan 04 05:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064537 = 6.4537 BTC [-]
Jan 04 05:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00064536 = 0.2581 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 05:15:08 <Diablo-D3>	man
Jan 04 05:15:11 <Diablo-D3>	maybe I should sell my btc
Jan 04 05:17:31 <jurov>	;;later tell mircea_popescu "mpoe-pr should announce bitcoin whale drawing contest"
Jan 04 05:17:32 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 04 05:36:58 <jurov>	hehe looks like mircea is in for a nice surprise when he wakes up
Jan 04 05:37:21 <jurov>	1500 BTC deposits pending
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Jan 04 05:37:32 <DeaDTerra>	I want my deposits to go through xD haha
Jan 04 05:37:38 <DeaDTerra>	want them last S.DICE shares ^^
Jan 04 05:37:51 <jurov>	i'll bribe him to make coinbr customers go first
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Jan 04 06:09:27 <jurov>	;;bc,tslb
Jan 04 06:09:29 <gribble>	Time since last block: 9 minutes and 56 seconds
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Jan 04 06:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00064536 = 6.2923 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 06:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.0037 = 7.03 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 07:07:01 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 04 07:07:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.34000, Best ask: 13.37999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 13.37999, 24 hour volume: 21005.83888674, 24 hour low: 13.25250, 24 hour high: 13.46999, 24 hour vwap: 13.36217
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Jan 04 07:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00368822 = 7.9297 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 07:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1666 @ 0.00364303 = 6.0693 BTC [-]
Jan 04 07:32:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00361229 = 2.5286 BTC [-]
Jan 04 07:32:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1008 @ 0.00360676 = 3.6356 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 08:03:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00064579 = 2.8415 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 08:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00366925 = 4.4031 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 08:51:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00360676 = 8.6562 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 09:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00366925 = 2.0181 BTC [+]
Jan 04 09:21:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1992 @ 0.0037 = 7.3704 BTC [+]
Jan 04 09:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 4500 *.035
Jan 04 09:23:51 <gribble>	157.5
Jan 04 09:30:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 42800 @ 0.0037 = 158.36 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 09:37:14 <jurov>	whales have been released to mpex.. waiting for the owners to catch up
Jan 04 09:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	0.00370000	9`573
Jan 04 09:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	the ipo block is almost gone.
Jan 04 09:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	hanging by a thread lol
Jan 04 09:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	300k shares left all the way to 48
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Jan 04 09:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9573 @ 0.0037 = 35.4201 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 09:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	and it's officially gone.
Jan 04 09:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	S.DICE IPO complete, erik gets his other 40mn shares on Feb 3rd
Jan 04 09:51:34 <Guest15001>	I got the last shares :D
Jan 04 09:51:45 <jcpham>	yay!
Jan 04 09:52:08 <jurov>	congrats!
Jan 04 09:53:06 <Guest15001>	Does Erik plan to release more shares? or is he happy with 10% outstanding shares?
Jan 04 09:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00370331 = 4.6291 BTC [+]
Jan 04 09:53:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00370508 = 10.7447 BTC [+]
Jan 04 09:53:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3421 @ 0.00371317 = 12.7028 BTC [+]
Jan 04 09:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	you should prolly ask him.
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Jan 04 09:55:19 <DeaDTerra>	yea I did :) he hasn't answered yet though ^^
Jan 04 09:55:44 <DeaDTerra>	I should get an answer once he comes online on skype though
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Jan 04 10:02:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00065069 = 2.5702 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:02:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14796 @ 0.00065086 = 9.6301 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 10:05:39 <StarenseN>	hello
Jan 04 10:05:54 <StarenseN>	can some1 write a proper BUY code for mpex ?
Jan 04 10:06:01 <StarenseN>	as an example
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Jan 04 10:09:03 <StarenseN>	especially with the MPSIC ?!
Jan 04 10:09:32 <StarenseN>	BUY|{MPSIC}|{quantity}|{price}|{expiry}
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Jan 04 10:12:58 <StarenseN>	mircea_popescu sorry to ping you but is MPSIC of satoshidice : S.DICE ?
Jan 04 10:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	yep
Jan 04 10:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	BUY|S.DICE|100|1000
Jan 04 10:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	will buy 100 shares at 1000 satoshi each
Jan 04 10:14:44 <StarenseN>	I'm dealing with python pympex
Jan 04 10:15:21 <StarenseN>	mpex.py BUY|S.DICE|100|1000
Jan 04 10:15:30 <StarenseN>	return that S.DICE is not recognized
Jan 04 10:15:41 <StarenseN>	as internal command
Jan 04 10:15:43 <StarenseN>	bla bla
Jan 04 10:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	./mpex.py BUY|S.DICE|100|1000
Jan 04 10:16:08 <mircea_popescu>	?
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Jan 04 10:16:19 <StarenseN>	same between brackets
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Jan 04 10:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	you mean quotes ?
Jan 04 10:16:32 <StarenseN>	mpex.py BUY, STAT, DEPOSIT are working fines
Jan 04 10:16:46 <StarenseN>	but BUY|xxx not
Jan 04 10:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1129 @ 0.00371317 = 4.1922 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3250 @ 0.00371362 = 12.0693 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 622 @ 0.00371425 = 2.3103 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:17:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.0037167 = 6.5042 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:17:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4900 @ 0.00371738 = 18.2152 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00372012 = 13.0204 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2681 @ 0.00372636 = 9.9904 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00374588 = 6.368 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3740 @ 0.00374713 = 14.0143 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2121 @ 0.00374741 = 7.9483 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	very strange indeed.
Jan 04 10:18:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1965 @ 0.00375156 = 7.3718 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:18:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00375709 = 3.7571 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00375821 = 5.2615 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:18:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00376765 = 6.0282 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:18:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00377004 = 4.524 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1791 @ 0.00377672 = 6.7641 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.00377697 = 12.464 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00379706 = 6.6449 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00379923 = 1.8996 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 84994 @ 0.0038 = 322.9772 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:18:41 <StarenseN>	dear
Jan 04 10:18:50 <StarenseN>	all 0.0038 gone :D
Jan 04 10:19:05 <StarenseN>	and i'm dealing with my command console for hours ^^
Jan 04 10:19:18 <StarenseN>	to expect to buy on share
Jan 04 10:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Jan 04 10:21:21 <mircea_popescu>	StarenseN this is weird, obviously it's working for most everyone else. maybe some issue with character set on your system ?
Jan 04 10:21:23 <mircea_popescu>	or i have no idea
Jan 04 10:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6 @ 0.0038 = 0.0228 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:21:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00380632 = 7.6126 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:21:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2503 @ 0.00381374 = 9.5458 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:21:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2198 @ 0.00382637 = 8.4104 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:21:54 <mircea_popescu>	but if all else fails you can always paste commands manually into the site
Jan 04 10:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	as a backstop in an emergency
Jan 04 10:22:05 <StarenseN>	yeah i'm doing this
Jan 04 10:22:16 <StarenseN>	but did several try
Jan 04 10:22:18 <StarenseN>	:(
Jan 04 10:22:34 <jurov>	StarenseN, from what you wrote in the night, it looks like you have trouble escaping the string
Jan 04 10:22:49 <jurov>	./mpex.py 'BUY|S.DICE|100|1000'
Jan 04 10:22:54 <jurov>	^ note the quotes
Jan 04 10:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	paste that in there see
Jan 04 10:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	maybe your system has weird quotes or something
Jan 04 10:23:50 <jurov>	the ./mpex.py he pasted above is definitely wrong
Jan 04 10:24:00 <StarenseN>	what i type is
Jan 04 10:24:12 <StarenseN>	mpex.py BUY|S.DICE|100|1000
Jan 04 10:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00382637 = 0.0077 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:24:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 59198 @ 0.003995 = 236.496 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:24:24 <StarenseN>	BOOM raped
Jan 04 10:24:25 <jurov>	StarenseN, add quotes like i did
Jan 04 10:24:28 <StarenseN>	ok
Jan 04 10:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	seems 40s won't be holding long.
Jan 04 10:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	bugpowda will be pleased when he wakes up lol
Jan 04 10:24:53 <jurov>	told ya. whales
Jan 04 10:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 04 10:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360414 / 0.00374101 / 0.003995 (635284 shares, 2,376.61 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00329973 / 0.003995 (13422042 shares, 44,289.18 BTC)
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Jan 04 10:26:02 <StarenseN>	doesnt work with quotes
Jan 04 10:26:11 <StarenseN>	mpex.py 'BUY|S.DICE|100|399500'
Jan 04 10:26:11 <jurov>	what is the error message?
Jan 04 10:26:27 <StarenseN>	'S.DICE" is not recognize as internal/external command
Jan 04 10:26:38 <StarenseN>	'S.DICE'
Jan 04 10:26:45 <StarenseN>	i have a french version
Jan 04 10:26:51 <StarenseN>	of windows
Jan 04 10:27:20 <mod6>	maybe python isn't on the path or something... how can he check to see?
Jan 04 10:27:27 <jurov>	O.o... it's windows? then try double quotes instead.. and invoke python properly
Jan 04 10:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	ya, it sounds like you're not geting python to process it
Jan 04 10:27:39 <StarenseN>	I did STAT working fine
Jan 04 10:27:39 <jurov>	python mpex.py "BUY|S.DICE|100|399500'
Jan 04 10:27:42 <jurov>	python mpex.py "BUY|S.DICE|100|399500"
Jan 04 10:27:43 <StarenseN>	and deposit BTC
Jan 04 10:27:45 <jurov>	^this
Jan 04 10:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.003995 = 0.3995 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:28:26 <StarenseN>	jurov
Jan 04 10:28:32 <StarenseN>	that's working now
Jan 04 10:28:33 <mod6>	nice jurov :]
Jan 04 10:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	haha. french version of windows.
Jan 04 10:28:48 <mircea_popescu>	i can die now. we got mpex to work on a french version of windows.
Jan 04 10:28:51 <StarenseN>	<@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.003995 = 0.3995 BTC [+] > hey mum i'm on TV
Jan 04 10:28:53 <mod6>	haha
Jan 04 10:29:04 <jurov>	lol
Jan 04 10:29:11 <StarenseN>	ty :)
Jan 04 10:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	yw.
Jan 04 10:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	not that i did anything, but you're welcome just the same :D
Jan 04 10:29:34 <StarenseN>	may update your FAQ if possible
Jan 04 10:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	what'd you suggest ?
Jan 04 10:30:30 <jurov>	nah, that should rather go into pimpex documentation
Jan 04 10:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 12680 @ 0.003995 = 50.6566 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	probably.
Jan 04 10:31:07 <jurov>	running inder unix : ./mpex.py 'BUY|S.DICE|100|399500' running under win: python mpex.py "BUY|S.DICE|100|399500"
Jan 04 10:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	or... in the windows documentation
Jan 04 10:31:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.003995 = 199.75 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	but yeah. Azelphur you feel like adding that ?
Jan 04 10:31:29 <jurov>	proper quoting IS documented since ol'dos
Jan 04 10:32:31 <jurov>	And, dear folks! If anybody offered me to make MPEx GUI for reasonable price, it would probably already be done...
Jan 04 10:32:49 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Jan 04 10:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	isn't coinbr kinda that anyway ?
Jan 04 10:34:03 <jurov>	ofc. but i mean desktop app.
Jan 04 10:34:12 <jurov>	mpexagent is already halfway there as it parses the stuff, i expected someone will pick up on it
Jan 04 10:35:07 <jurov>	but everyone is too cheap or lazy or dunno
Jan 04 10:36:05 <mircea_popescu>	i'll tell you what it is
Jan 04 10:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	nobody wants to sit down and put the work into anything these days.
Jan 04 10:36:26 <mircea_popescu>	if you cook they'll eat, if you don't cook they'll starve with the food in the fridge
Jan 04 10:36:59 <jcpham>	true
Jan 04 10:37:06 <StarenseN>	jurov > i did mpex.py "BUY|S.DICE|100|399500" as python wasnt recognized command (althought i added the PATH but wrongly i think)
Jan 04 10:37:19 <StarenseN>	Azelphur
Jan 04 10:38:12 <Andck>	StarenseN: go to the directory where u installed python
Jan 04 10:38:17 <Andck>	and then try with python command
Jan 04 10:39:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 54087 @ 0.003995 = 216.0776 BTC [+]
Jan 04 10:39:33 <StarenseN>	^ mine
Jan 04 10:39:36 <StarenseN>	also
Jan 04 10:39:43 <StarenseN>	it's working with double quote
Jan 04 10:40:05 <jurov>	yes, single quotes are for unices
Jan 04 10:40:40 <StarenseN>	and for DEPOSIT > i had to type mpex.py DEPOSIT|{100} to deposit 100 BTC
Jan 04 10:40:48 <StarenseN>	no double quotes, but brackets
Jan 04 10:41:22 <jurov>	interesting. "DEPOSIT|100" should work too, i never had to use burly braces
Jan 04 10:41:37 <StarenseN>	let met try
Jan 04 10:42:31 <StarenseN>	mpex.py "DEPOSIT|100" is working also
Jan 04 10:42:51 <StarenseN>	dears trust me i went insane today :D
Jan 04 10:43:01 <StarenseN>	if only i knew about the " "
Jan 04 10:43:15 <StarenseN>	and i missed a lot of cheap shares FML
Jan 04 10:43:20 <StarenseN>	for minutes
Jan 04 10:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Jan 04 10:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	this is undocumented unexpected fudge
Jan 04 10:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	you mean to tell me you actually ran mpex.py DEPOSIT|{100} and it worked as such ?
Jan 04 10:44:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.DICE lol that looks cute
Jan 04 10:45:17 <jcpham>	http://www.cryptocoinexplorer.com/
Jan 04 10:45:21 <jcpham>	shit just got real
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Jan 04 10:46:21 <gigavps>	someone is making some coin
Jan 04 10:51:35 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin tgp ftw
Jan 04 10:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	preparing ourselves for the tube sites
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Jan 04 10:59:28 <jcpham>	http://www.cpcelectronics.co.uk/acatalog/CPC__5.2_GH_s_Miner_.html
Jan 04 10:59:43 <jcpham>	How quickly can I get my order?
Jan 04 10:59:43 <jcpham>	Once your payment has been recieved, your order will be assembled and despatched within 14 days
Jan 04 11:00:11 <jcpham>	discuss
Jan 04 11:01:57 <topace>	lol what is it ?
Jan 04 11:02:26 <topace>	fpga hardcopy ? its kinda in the middle between fpga and asic
Jan 04 11:02:36 <topace>	(stats, power, price) wise
Jan 04 11:05:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 17529 @ 0.003995 = 70.0284 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 11:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2354 @ 0.00397155 = 9.349 BTC [-]
Jan 04 11:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 546 @ 0.00397155 = 2.1685 BTC [-]
Jan 04 11:17:02 <jcpham>	i think it is a scam
Jan 04 11:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1006 @ 0.00395635 = 3.9801 BTC [-]
Jan 04 11:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 19400 @ 0.003995 = 77.503 BTC [+]
Jan 04 11:17:18 <jcpham>	we've been discussing this in secret mining channels
Jan 04 11:17:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1006 @ 0.003995 = 4.019 BTC [+]
Jan 04 11:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00399556 = 2.7969 BTC [+]
Jan 04 11:21:00 <smickles>	jcpham:  it's not a scam, they are reselling their gpu rigs
Jan 04 11:21:10 <topace>	heh at 70w ?
Jan 04 11:21:13 <jcpham>	ummm
Jan 04 11:21:24 <smickles>	oh
Jan 04 11:21:26 <smickles>	nvm
Jan 04 11:21:33 <jcpham>	5.2GH/s at 70w at $139 makes zero sense
Jan 04 11:21:33 <smickles>	it made sense, i just woke up
Jan 04 11:21:57 <jcpham>	that's almost twice my farm for peanuts
Jan 04 11:22:02 <jcpham>	and at 70w
Jan 04 11:22:10 <jcpham>	and it ships in 14 days
Jan 04 11:22:15 <jcpham>	according to their faq
Jan 04 11:22:25 <topace>	well, for $139 someone should risk it and find out :p
Jan 04 11:22:36 <jcpham>	nevermind those few g's i dropped on asics that do not even exist
Jan 04 11:22:59 <jcpham>	these guys have the sweetheart secret cheap AMD stream chips
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Jan 04 11:24:55 <smickles>	jcpham: I can tell you exactly who should risk it if you tell me what 5.2gh/s is actually worth?
Jan 04 11:25:17 <jcpham>	;;genrate 5200
Jan 04 11:25:18 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 5200.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 2979636.61694, is 0.877675410033 BTC per day and 0.0365698087514 BTC per hour.
Jan 04 11:25:35 <jcpham>	$10/day?
Jan 04 11:25:57 <jcpham>	until the diff spikes 20x
Jan 04 11:26:17 <jcpham>	http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/04/24/irc-is-dead-long-live-irc/
Jan 04 11:27:52 <smickles>	if it can last a month and a half, with the diff climbing pretty fast, it *just* makes it profitable for you to risk it
Jan 04 11:28:05 <smickles>	well
Jan 04 11:28:10 <jcpham>	except i'll lose 139$
Jan 04 11:28:15 <jcpham>	when it never arrives
Jan 04 11:28:18 <smickles>	if you are 98% sure it's not a scam
Jan 04 11:28:29 <jcpham>	i'm 99% sure it is
Jan 04 11:29:30 <smickles>	well then, it's net to curn out 640 usd per day
Jan 04 11:29:38 <smickles>	s/net/need/
Jan 04 11:30:36 <jcpham>	sounds like a much lower difficulty
Jan 04 11:30:44 <jcpham>	that i'll never see again
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Jan 04 11:33:39 <Bugpowder>	YES
Jan 04 11:36:47 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 11:36:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360414 / 0.00379322 / 0.00399556 (784242 shares, 2,974.80 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0033079 / 0.00399556 (13578925 shares, 44,917.79 BTC)
Jan 04 11:37:01 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 04 11:37:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42015, Best ask: 13.44999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02984, Last trade: 13.42015, 24 hour volume: 23870.53789899, 24 hour low: 13.26509, 24 hour high: 13.47999, 24 hour vwap: 13.36822
Jan 04 11:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.0048 = 10.56 BTC [+]
Jan 04 11:42:11 <jcpham>	http://translate.google.com/#en/fr/filled%20with
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Jan 04 11:42:17 <jcpham>	click the speaker and listen
Jan 04 11:42:30 <jcpham>	where does "he now praises the ipad" come from?
Jan 04 11:45:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00467159 = 1.4015 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 11:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00064871 = 5.8384 BTC [-]
Jan 04 11:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00064579 = 7.2328 BTC [-]
Jan 04 11:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1847 @ 0.00064536 = 1.192 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 12:17:54 <kakobreklaa>	http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/
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Jan 04 12:33:28 <smickles>	kakobreklaa: that's entertaining :)
Jan 04 12:35:39 <jcpham>	some of those are hilarious
Jan 04 12:35:53 <jcpham>	http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/38704906537/when-discussing-raid-and-one-mentions-that-more-than
Jan 04 12:35:59 <jcpham>	is sort of my favorite
Jan 04 12:37:07 <Bugpowder>	Hmm.. I wonder if they also run http://researchinprogress.tumblr.com
Jan 04 12:37:19 <Bugpowder>	which is like my field's favorite website.
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Jan 04 12:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2650 @ 0.00426818 = 11.3107 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 12:47:59 <Azelphur>	lmao I love the oracle one
Jan 04 12:49:37 <pigeons>	In devops we are face fiscal cliff every year when Oracle license is up for renew.
Jan 04 12:49:49 <pigeons>	https://twitter.com/DEVOPS_BORAT
Jan 04 12:52:11 <thestrin1puller>	i am on devops team
Jan 04 12:52:25 <thestrin1puller>	we have eternal oracle license
Jan 04 12:53:58 <pigeons>	In devops is no try, is only catch or not catch of exception.
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Jan 04 13:13:30 <jcpham>	hah
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Jan 04 13:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00426818 = 2.1341 BTC [-]
Jan 04 13:16:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00426058 = 7.8821 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 13:22:09 <pigeons>	whoa
Jan 04 13:22:19 <pigeons>	hadnt looked at that s.dice price
Jan 04 13:23:38 <Bugpowder>	48
Jan 04 13:23:41 <Bugpowder>	yeh
Jan 04 13:30:09 <jcpham>	what's special about the price
Jan 04 13:30:23 <jcpham>	i haven't been paying attention for months now so i really do not know
Jan 04 13:30:35 <pigeons>	its higher than yesterday ;)
Jan 04 13:30:45 <jcpham>	why
Jan 04 13:30:58 <pigeons>	supply and demand again
Jan 04 13:31:12 <jcpham>	but i do not get it
Jan 04 13:31:24 <jcpham>	why does it go up, it's more profitable for the operators
Jan 04 13:31:34 <jcpham>	they are literally taking people's money on the front end
Jan 04 13:31:46 <pigeons>	well some people saw the fat dividend that was paid, and got jealous
Jan 04 13:31:48 <jcpham>	why are they taking people's money on the back also
Jan 04 13:32:04 <pigeons>	also there is an alleged new passtrhough at havelock so he needs to buy some if he is legit
Jan 04 13:32:12 <pigeons>	who is they?
Jan 04 13:32:22 <jcpham>	they being the ominous they
Jan 04 13:32:33 <jcpham>	whoever is making profits on overvalued junk
Jan 04 13:32:53 <pigeons>	i'm confused, how is it overvalued?
Jan 04 13:32:59 <smickles>	jcpham: all of the operator's shares (made available) have been sold tho
Jan 04 13:33:03 <jcpham>	i'm not sure
Jan 04 13:33:08 <jcpham>	i don't want anything to do with it
Jan 04 13:33:15 <smickles>	not even to short?
Jan 04 13:33:27 <jcpham>	i don't care
Jan 04 13:33:37 <jcpham>	you can have 50btc and make money with it if you want
Jan 04 13:33:42 <smickles>	bah, how am i supposed to make btc off of ambivilance
Jan 04 13:33:54 <jcpham>	the dice are bad
Jan 04 13:34:01 <jcpham>	i expect it to collapse
Jan 04 13:34:45 <jcpham>	i guess there is a market for gambling that i do not understand
Jan 04 13:35:10 <smickles>	some people like to gamble
Jan 04 13:35:49 <jcpham>	statisitcally it takes more money every day from what i've seen
Jan 04 13:36:03 <jcpham>	why people throw that down a hole dumbfounds me
Jan 04 13:36:29 <smickles>	because about half of the players double their money
Jan 04 13:36:48 <smickles>	i think that's rather thrilling, and they seek it out again later
Jan 04 13:36:56 <pigeons>	well there are issues, such as low barrier to competitors, operator risk in one man, and the bitcoin network retaliating against SD "spam" transactions
Jan 04 13:37:09 <pigeons>	but everything has risks
Jan 04 13:37:24 <smickles>	you ass has risks
Jan 04 13:37:28 <smickles>	;D
Jan 04 13:37:44 <pigeons>	the risks get bigger the longer i wait to go to walmart cause im out of TP
Jan 04 13:38:14 <smickles>	oooh, witty
Jan 04 13:38:25 <pigeons>	well true
Jan 04 13:38:41 <pigeons>	off to walmart
Jan 04 13:39:02 <smickles>	lol
Jan 04 13:40:14 <thestrin1puller>	sir smickles
Jan 04 13:40:23 <smickles>	how many of SD's competitors go to major global gambling conventions and advertise such as SD has
Jan 04 13:40:24 <thestrin1puller>	you gonna be around?
Jan 04 13:40:41 <smickles>	over what timescale thestrin1puller esq.
Jan 04 13:42:09 <thestrin1puller>	next 30 minutes
Jan 04 13:43:14 <smickles>	I can be :)
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Jan 04 14:13:53 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 04 14:13:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.46002, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03998, Last trade: 13.46002, 24 hour volume: 28474.56469043, 24 hour low: 13.27000, 24 hour high: 13.50000, 24 hour vwap: 13.40272
Jan 04 14:14:09 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 14:14:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00380384 / 0.0048 (763127 shares, 2,902.82 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00330856 / 0.0048 (13581437 shares, 44,935.05 BTC)
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Jan 04 14:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00425836 = 4.2584 BTC [-]
Jan 04 14:34:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00425837 = 0.2129 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 14:45:53 <BitcoinTFW>	!help
Jan 04 14:45:54 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 04 14:45:55 <assbot>	!ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current MPEX ticker values)
Jan 04 14:46:14 <BitcoinTFW>	!ticker
Jan 04 14:46:14 <assbot>	Provide ticker.
Jan 04 14:46:32 <BitcoinTFW>	S.DICE
Jan 04 14:47:20 <BitcoinTFW>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 14:47:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00381507 / 0.0048 (693927 shares, 2,647.39 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00330863 / 0.0048 (13582487 shares, 44,939.52 BTC)
Jan 04 14:52:33 <topace>	is it sleeping time in romania? been waiting a while for my mpex deposit to appear :(
Jan 04 14:53:56 <Bugpowder>	Wow.... There are a LOT of new deposits coming in... http://blockchain.info/address/1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
Jan 04 14:54:19 <BitcoinTFW>	no but its friday,Ooh Yeaa
Jan 04 14:54:24 <Bugpowder>	;;seen mireca_popescu
Jan 04 14:54:24 <gribble>	I have not seen mireca_popescu.
Jan 04 14:54:47 <Bugpowder>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Jan 04 14:54:47 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 3 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> preparing ourselves for the tube sites
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Jan 04 15:06:50 <BitcoinTFW>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 15:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00381507 / 0.0048 (693927 shares, 2,647.39 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00330863 / 0.0048 (13582487 shares, 44,939.52 BTC)
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Jan 04 15:26:29 <kakobreklaa>	leave tulkas alone! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg1434838#msg1434838
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Jan 04 15:35:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1154 @ 0.00430226 = 4.9648 BTC [+]
Jan 04 15:35:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 882 @ 0.00435658 = 3.8425 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 15:37:34 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 15:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00381657 / 0.0048 (695963 shares, 2,656.19 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00330879 / 0.0048 (13584152 shares, 44,947.13 BTC)
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Jan 04 15:50:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3047 @ 0.00064398 = 1.9622 BTC [-]
Jan 04 15:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6028 @ 0.00064116 = 3.8649 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 15:56:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 168 @ 0.00435658 = 0.7319 BTC [+]
Jan 04 15:56:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00455096 = 4.551 BTC [+]
Jan 04 15:58:14 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 15:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00381904 / 0.0048 (690066 shares, 2,635.40 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00330889 / 0.0048 (13585320 shares, 44,952.41 BTC)
Jan 04 15:58:58 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: you around?
Jan 04 15:59:06 <Ukto>	get too drunk on new years? forgot where we are? :P
Jan 04 16:00:09 <thestrin1puller>	Ukto: where is mah ff7?
Jan 04 16:00:28 <Ukto>	i have to finish some stupid password recovery code for weex
Jan 04 16:00:31 <Ukto>	then I will go look
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Jan 04 16:16:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1338 @ 0.00456373 = 6.1063 BTC [+]
Jan 04 16:19:24 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 16:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00382049 / 0.0048 (691404 shares, 2,641.50 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00330901 / 0.0048 (13586658 shares, 44,958.52 BTC)
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Jan 04 16:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3953 @ 0.00064496 = 2.5495 BTC [+]
Jan 04 16:28:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3004 @ 0.00065086 = 1.9552 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 17:04:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00434025 = 7.8125 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 17:19:20 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 17:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.0038219 / 0.0048 (692848 shares, 2,648.00 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00330915 / 0.0048 (13586893 shares, 44,961.19 BTC)
Jan 04 17:19:41 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 04 17:19:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43349, Best ask: 13.49899, Bid-ask spread: 0.06550, Last trade: 13.43349, 24 hour volume: 29413.36431235, 24 hour low: 13.27311, 24 hour high: 13.52000, 24 hour vwap: 13.41950
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Jan 04 17:28:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 197 @ 0.00455393 = 0.8971 BTC [+]
Jan 04 17:41:42 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: hrm?
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Jan 04 17:50:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00447191 = 2.9067 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 18:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 743 @ 0.00065283 = 0.4851 BTC [+]
Jan 04 18:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 371 @ 0.00064116 = 0.2379 BTC [-]
Jan 04 18:17:08 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: pm
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Jan 04 18:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00446439 = 0.8929 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 18:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00435162 = 10.4439 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 19:16:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063395 = 6.3395 BTC [-]
Jan 04 19:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37450 @ 0.00063394 = 23.7411 BTC [-]
Jan 04 19:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00063259 = 3.3527 BTC [-]
Jan 04 19:16:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1672 @ 0.00063258 = 1.0577 BTC [-]
Jan 04 19:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2328 @ 0.00063114 = 1.4693 BTC [-]
Jan 04 19:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00441206 = 11.0302 BTC [+]
Jan 04 19:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0043405 = 4.3405 BTC [-]
Jan 04 19:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2350 @ 0.00434025 = 10.1996 BTC [-]
Jan 04 19:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.004331 = 9.0951 BTC [-]
Jan 04 19:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2489 @ 0.004331 = 10.7799 BTC [-]
Jan 04 19:38:02 <pigeons>	let's take some profits
Jan 04 19:38:07 <pigeons>	and then buy back in
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Jan 04 19:44:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00427948 = 8.131 BTC [-]
Jan 04 19:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	mkay so i have a technical announcement re mpex
Jan 04 19:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	one of the core boxes went down for unknown reasons. it's still fscking atm
Jan 04 19:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	a replacement was comissioned and is going online within minutes
Jan 04 19:58:31 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think this actually had any effect, and i'm not concerned enough to halt trading.
Jan 04 19:58:47 <pigeons>	oh shit its the sec hackers
Jan 04 19:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 04 19:59:20 <smickles>	quick, withdraw EVERYTHING!!!1!
Jan 04 19:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	as per usual mpex only processes deposits :D
Jan 04 19:59:44 <smickles>	python -m mpex 'WITHDRAW|*'
Jan 04 19:59:50 <smickles>	shit, wrong window :o
Jan 04 20:00:18 <smickles>	lol, 'only processes deposits'
Jan 04 20:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	you forgot the {}s
Jan 04 20:00:42 <smickles>	{}?
Jan 04 20:01:03 <smickles>	if i'm typing that into bash, it should work. well, aside from the '*'
Jan 04 20:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	o, you missed the earlier convo
Jan 04 20:01:49 <smickles>	I suppose so. Is it far back in the log?
Jan 04 20:02:03 <mircea_popescu>	when it was discovered that for unclear and unexplainable reasons mypex DEPOSIT|{100} works as such
Jan 04 20:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	without any quotes
Jan 04 20:02:10 <mircea_popescu>	at least on french windows
Jan 04 20:02:29 *	Namjies slaps smickles around with a large trout.
Jan 04 20:02:38 <Namjies>	No withdrawing!
Jan 04 20:02:50 <Namjies>	Buy more S.DICE
Jan 04 20:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4282 @ 0.00063631 = 2.7247 BTC [+]
Jan 04 20:02:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9436 @ 0.00063816 = 6.0217 BTC [+]
Jan 04 20:03:04 <smickles>	naw, any spare btc goes to fund SOEBOT!
Jan 04 20:03:06 <mircea_popescu>	or that.
Jan 04 20:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	ow shit it's trading 43s
Jan 04 20:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 04 20:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00384987 / 0.0048 (633606 shares, 2,439.31 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00331037 / 0.0048 (13600172 shares, 45,021.69 BTC)
Jan 04 20:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	48 whoa
Jan 04 20:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00424664 = 3.6096 BTC [-]
Jan 04 20:14:58 <mircea_popescu>	"I actually didn't notice the 30BTC fee when I submitted my key. I have to pay 30BTC fee even for small purchases?"
Jan 04 20:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	dude someone has to bring glbse back
Jan 04 20:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	that's the second dood today.
Jan 04 20:15:36 <Namjies>	I've wanted to get a large amount but couldn't raise the capital for it.
Jan 04 20:15:50 <smickles>	ther's a 30 BTC fee? SCAM!
Jan 04 20:16:23 <Namjies>	Yes, I paid it long ago
Jan 04 20:16:38 <Namjies>	Well not that long ago... but when it was 20 BTC I think
Jan 04 20:18:14 <Namjies>	I can't send commands to MPEx
Jan 04 20:18:15 <smickles>	anyone care to donate .11165070 to science?
Jan 04 20:19:20 <smickles>	;;lucky "Chief Scientist Gavin Anderson"
Jan 04 20:19:24 <gribble>	http://www.kreabgavinanderson.com/Default.aspx?tabid=229
Jan 04 20:19:37 <smickles>	lame
Jan 04 20:20:39 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 04 20:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies why not ?
Jan 04 20:21:56 <smickles>	I swear, someone like businessweek call gavin the chief scientist of the bitcoin project
Jan 04 20:22:00 <smickles>	must find link
Jan 04 20:22:40 <smickles>	“It’s still a pretty raw technology,” says Gavin Andresen, chief scientist at Bitcoin Foundation. “It’s pretty obvious that it’s been designed by geeks for geeks. It’s not easy to use yet, but it’s getting easier to use all the time.”
Jan 04 20:22:51 <smickles>	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-03/bitcoin-making-online-gambling-legal-in-the-u-dot-s-dot
Jan 04 20:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 04 20:23:34 <smickles>	so now, I must edit wikipedia, making gavin a scientist
Jan 04 20:23:52 <smickles>	(afterall, it's from a reliable source)
Jan 04 20:24:48 <Namjies>	Ah nevermind.
Jan 04 20:25:09 <Namjies>	It's because I switch between mine and BitVPS's account by deleting/readding key.
Jan 04 20:25:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00424418 = 8.9128 BTC [-]
Jan 04 20:25:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00423911 = 5.0869 BTC [-]
Jan 04 20:25:37 <Namjies>	I forgot to mark the certificate as my own.
Jan 04 20:29:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00412314 = 2.8862 BTC [-]
Jan 04 20:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00065549 = 10.4878 BTC [+]
Jan 04 20:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00382726 = 3.0618 BTC [-]
Jan 04 20:47:01 <Namjies>	Might have been a bit too much enthusiasm with S.DICE
Jan 04 20:47:47 <Namjies>	Where are expected dividends this month at right now?
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Jan 04 20:48:56 <Namjies>	Ah, already distributed. Hmm, I see.
Jan 04 20:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies made 5.x% for dec, looks about 10k ahead for january so far
Jan 04 20:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	at current top price that'd be a 2%
Jan 04 20:53:10 <Namjies>	1k on MPEx that is
Jan 04 20:53:37 <Namjies>	Where do you guys get the numbers anyway for current earnings for the month?
Jan 04 20:54:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 961 @ 0.00065549 = 0.6299 BTC [+]
Jan 04 20:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00065793 = 6.3819 BTC [+]
Jan 04 20:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11876 @ 0.00065919 = 7.8285 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 20:59:06 <Namjies>	forum says they had 10k profit on first day... then lost 11k by second day.
Jan 04 20:59:18 <Namjies>	They're back at slightly over beggining of the month
Jan 04 20:59:32 <Namjies>	Hmm, found the graphics in one of the forum threads.
Jan 04 20:59:47 <mircea_popescu>	a ok ?
Jan 04 20:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	i was behind the news.
Jan 04 21:01:19 <Namjies>	yeah, it swings over and under the house edge
Jan 04 21:01:31 <Namjies>	But very profitable overall nonetheless.
Jan 04 21:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	so they made -11000 past 24ish hours ?
Jan 04 21:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	link me to dooglus if you don't mind
Jan 04 21:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	"So.. like.. is it just me or does every single "company" (with the exception of satoshi dice and possibly one or two others) make a huge loss ?"
Jan 04 21:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	i lolled.
Jan 04 21:02:55 <Namjies>	no, the lost 11k after winning 10k, so went 1k under. They're now back near 1k over.
Jan 04 21:03:01 <Namjies>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.660
Jan 04 21:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Jan 04 21:04:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1191 @ 0.00402585 = 4.7948 BTC [+]
Jan 04 21:04:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1269 @ 0.00402001 = 5.1014 BTC [-]
Jan 04 21:04:48 <Namjies>	That's actually neat looking charts
Jan 04 21:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	mhm
Jan 04 21:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	he does a good job dooglus
Jan 04 21:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	Final SD Profit:            34221.17042144 BTC (1.789%)
Jan 04 21:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	ya that's about 1k give or take
Jan 04 21:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder hey how about that 10k+1.9% theory :D
Jan 04 21:09:03 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 04 21:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/15wu05/well_reddit_we_listened_bitcoin_consumer_group/
Jan 04 21:14:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3550 @ 0.00407768 = 14.4758 BTC [+]
Jan 04 21:17:10 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> he does a good job dooglus <<< yeah, i send him a tip every once in a while, hoping that he continues so I don't have to start doing it myself
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Jan 04 21:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	eyah
Jan 04 21:18:12 <BUgpowder>	yeah
Jan 04 21:18:17 <BUgpowder>	i am right though
Jan 04 21:18:27 <BUgpowder>	but with that variance
Jan 04 21:18:28 <BUgpowder>	...
Jan 04 21:18:46 <smickles>	it's because of the max bet limits
Jan 04 21:18:50 <BUgpowder>	whales better not go away with the new TxOut lucky number scheme
Jan 04 21:19:02 <BUgpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 21:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00385458 / 0.0048 (645266 shares, 2,487.23 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00331107 / 0.0048 (13610140 shares, 45,064.20 BTC)
Jan 04 21:19:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00407768 = 0.4078 BTC [+]
Jan 04 21:19:16 <BUgpowder>	is the middle value swap?
Jan 04 21:19:23 <BUgpowder>	vwap?
Jan 04 21:19:43 <smickles>	it's the magic number, ofc
Jan 04 21:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	yeah it's vwap
Jan 04 21:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1435236#msg1435236 currently i'm in awe of this
Jan 04 21:21:05 <BUgpowder>	I so want to value S.DICE at .0048 in my portfolio right now
Jan 04 21:21:18 <smickles>	hmm
Jan 04 21:21:30 <smickles>	are they seriously talking about mpex?
Jan 04 21:21:45 <BUgpowder>	no bitfunder
Jan 04 21:21:55 <smickles>	oh
Jan 04 21:21:56 <BUgpowder>	this dipshits are so clueless
Jan 04 21:22:07 <BUgpowder>	now they are shareholders
Jan 04 21:22:25 <mircea_popescu>	there's just no way bitfunder does that tho
Jan 04 21:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	BUgpowder ya, 2share holders.
Jan 04 21:22:58 <smickles>	cryptoxchange used to go off of what you bid at, rather than the lowest ask
Jan 04 21:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Jan 04 21:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	no ?!
Jan 04 21:23:11 <smickles>	(and vice-versa)
Jan 04 21:23:12 <BUgpowder>	lolll
Jan 04 21:23:19 <BUgpowder>	its funny though
Jan 04 21:23:28 <BUgpowder>	someone did get filled at 0.039.
Jan 04 21:23:33 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: uh, yeah, it's why I stopped using them,
Jan 04 21:23:40 <mircea_popescu>	my mind is blown.
Jan 04 21:23:56 <smickles>	i lost a quarter btc or so and contacted support
Jan 04 21:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	but i take solace in the hope the interpol is going to get them
Jan 04 21:24:14 <BUgpowder>	I guess the asks were missing for a bit
Jan 04 21:24:15 <smickles>	they were liek, ya, it did what we designed it to do.
Jan 04 21:25:14 <BUgpowder>	So why has MPOE-PR been is such a good mood lately?  Nice vacation or something?
Jan 04 21:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	i guess lol
Jan 04 21:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	she's actually a pretty easy-going type
Jan 04 21:28:28 <BUgpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 04 21:28:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.48000, Best ask: 13.48367, Bid-ask spread: 0.00367, Last trade: 13.48367, 24 hour volume: 29285.79710781, 24 hour low: 13.27311, 24 hour high: 13.54800, 24 hour vwap: 13.43482
Jan 04 21:33:55 <smickles>	wow
Jan 04 21:34:11 <smickles>	20day std.dev. has not been this low since the beginning of june
Jan 04 21:34:29 <BUgpowder>	super boring
Jan 04 21:34:37 <BUgpowder>	nobody is buying options
Jan 04 21:34:43 <BUgpowder>	what am i gonna do
Jan 04 21:34:50 <BUgpowder>	when satoshi dice peaks
Jan 04 21:34:55 <smickles>	I would, but noone is selling them cheap enough
Jan 04 21:34:59 <smickles>	:P
Jan 04 21:35:02 <BUgpowder>	whats THE NEXT BIG THING?
Jan 04 21:35:10 <BUgpowder>	What would you buy for smickles?
Jan 04 21:35:26 <BUgpowder>	I don't want to sell to the bot
Jan 04 21:35:29 <BUgpowder>	mpoe bot
Jan 04 21:35:39 <BUgpowder>	but I'm getting bored
Jan 04 21:35:43 <BUgpowder>	waiting
Jan 04 21:35:48 <smickles>	BUgpowder: you see all those bids for 1 contract between the strikes of 12 and 15
Jan 04 21:35:52 <smickles>	that's me :D
Jan 04 21:36:22 <BUgpowder>	your bids suck
Jan 04 21:36:24 <BUgpowder>	yo
Jan 04 21:36:39 <BUgpowder>	ALso I don't have 1001 options to sell
Jan 04 21:36:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 598 @ 0.00418797 = 2.5044 BTC [+]
Jan 04 21:37:02 <smickles>	if i had more btc, i'd be writing splits to sell
Jan 04 21:37:36 <smickles>	and some of it would be sold to mpoebot
Jan 04 21:38:06 <BUgpowder>	heh
Jan 04 21:38:07 <BUgpowder>	well
Jan 04 21:38:18 <BUgpowder>	I wrote a few hundered
Jan 04 21:38:24 <smickles>	BUgpowder: how are you valuing things right now, with all this stability?
Jan 04 21:38:28 <BUgpowder>	wish I put it in S.DICE
Jan 04 21:38:44 <BUgpowder>	I don't have a good american options model
Jan 04 21:39:49 <BUgpowder>	but I think a strangle while buying some way OTM puts /calls for protection might not be a bad play
Jan 04 21:41:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.00424664 = 11.4659 BTC [+]
Jan 04 21:41:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00426313 = 0.4263 BTC [+]
Jan 04 21:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00430915 = 0.8618 BTC [+]
Jan 04 21:41:45 <BUgpowder>	yeah
Jan 04 21:41:47 <BUgpowder>	go go go
Jan 04 21:41:53 <BUgpowder>	<sigh>
Jan 04 21:42:03 <BUgpowder>	!ticker
Jan 04 21:42:03 <assbot>	Provide ticker.
Jan 04 21:42:11 <BUgpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 21:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00385737 / 0.0048 (646959 shares, 2,495.57 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00331133 / 0.0048 (13613295 shares, 45,078.12 BTC)
Jan 04 21:42:46 <BUgpowder>	So bored.
Jan 04 21:42:57 <BUgpowder>	want to watch game of thrones season 2
Jan 04 21:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 352 @ 0.0042397 = 1.4924 BTC [-]
Jan 04 21:43:22 <BUgpowder>	wife is watching an interview with Anthony Piazza "The Michael Jordon of Mediators"
Jan 04 21:43:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2805 @ 0.00411747 = 11.5495 BTC [-]
Jan 04 21:43:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 195 @ 0.00430915 = 0.8403 BTC [+]
Jan 04 21:43:51 <smickles>	lolwut, https://peerbet.org/index.php << the business model seems to be gather enough deposits, run
Jan 04 21:44:31 <smickles>	no way the ads will even cover hosting
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Jan 04 21:47:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 953 @ 0.004204 = 4.0064 BTC [-]
Jan 04 21:48:54 <mircea_popescu>	<BUgpowder> whats THE NEXT BIG THING? hehe hold that thought an hour.
Jan 04 21:49:21 <BUgpowder>	:)
Jan 04 21:49:23 <BUgpowder>	:-P
Jan 04 21:49:36 <BUgpowder>	:-D  --8
Jan 04 21:54:21 <BUgpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 21:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00385934 / 0.0048 (651264 shares, 2,513.45 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00331159 / 0.0048 (13617600 shares, 45,096.01 BTC)
Jan 04 22:04:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 826 @ 0.00423181 = 3.4955 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 22:11:02 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Jan 04 22:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00063114 / 0.00064393 / 0.00065919 (281009 shares, 180.95 BTC), 30day: 0.00050708 / 0.00059773 / 0.00066 (59885099 shares, 35,795.53 BTC)
Jan 04 22:13:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00412874 = 12.3862 BTC [-]
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Jan 04 22:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1392 @ 0.00423438 = 5.8943 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 22:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00065919 = 22.4454 BTC [+]
Jan 04 22:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00430915 = 1.7237 BTC [+]
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Jan 04 22:43:41 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 04 22:43:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360675 / 0.00386993 / 0.0048 (626638 shares, 2,425.05 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00331196 / 0.0048 (13620318 shares, 45,109.99 BTC)
Jan 04 22:44:14 <Bugpowder>	whats the next big thing?
Jan 04 22:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	announcement imminent :D
Jan 04 22:47:14 <smickles>	MPEx adopts the 'fail fast' model, shutting down
Jan 04 22:48:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00430915 = 7.9719 BTC [+]
Jan 04 22:50:30 <smickles>	Kevin Rose would be proud
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Jan 04 22:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 04 22:52:43 <mircea_popescu>	nah, nothing of the kind
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Jan 04 23:03:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00428 = 5.136 BTC [-]
Jan 04 23:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 04 23:08:55 <gribble>	Time since last block: 29 minutes and 10 seconds
Jan 04 23:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 455 @ 0.00430915 = 1.9607 BTC [+]
Jan 04 23:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1360 @ 0.004331 = 5.8902 BTC [+]
Jan 04 23:36:17 <smickles>	woah woah woah woah woah
Jan 04 23:36:33 <smickles>	i just found that my bot 404'd on mpex an hour ago
Jan 04 23:38:28 <mircea_popescu>	?
Jan 04 23:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	i see it ?
Jan 04 23:39:35 <smickles>	I just didn't except a 404
Jan 04 23:40:29 <mircea_popescu>	can you see what url ?
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Jan 04 23:42:22 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it 404'd on an order placement
Jan 04 23:42:56 <smickles>	and it was probably just a momentary thing, and I didn't have code to handle it, so my bot stalled
Jan 04 23:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	but... it makes no sense
Jan 04 23:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	as wtf would mpex 404 for.
Jan 04 23:43:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3124 @ 0.00065919 = 2.0593 BTC [+]
Jan 04 23:43:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00065953 = 2.5722 BTC [+]
Jan 04 23:43:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8676 @ 0.00066 = 5.7262 BTC [+]
Jan 04 23:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	pm me your ip i'll look in logs.
Jan 04 23:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	ok, i just looked in the logs for today. there is no 404.
Jan 04 23:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	in fact, there is nothing but 200.
Jan 04 23:47:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00435909 = 1.7436 BTC [+]
Jan 04 23:47:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00436108 = 1.7444 BTC [+]
Jan 04 23:47:59 <mircea_popescu>	www.followthatpage.com whoa didn't even know this exists.
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Jan 04 23:50:26 <smickles>	heh, google provides that service too
Jan 04 23:50:33 <smickles>	gives you emails or an rss feed
Jan 04 23:50:41 <smickles>	or text messages, iirc
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Jan 05 00:02:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1025 @ 0.00436108 = 4.4701 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 00:18:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3083 @ 0.00434 = 13.3802 BTC [-]
Jan 05 00:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0044719 = 4.4719 BTC [+]
Jan 05 00:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00447191 = 1.7888 BTC [+]
Jan 05 00:24:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00065149 = 12.476 BTC [-]
Jan 05 00:24:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00065078 = 2.1801 BTC [-]
Jan 05 00:35:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00451211 = 5.6401 BTC [+]
Jan 05 00:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00451211 = 8.1218 BTC [+]
Jan 05 00:38:51 <mircea_popescu>	sooo, drumroll!
Jan 05 00:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET
Jan 05 00:39:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 653 @ 0.00455393 = 2.9737 BTC [+]
Jan 05 00:40:17 <kakobrekla>	*tumbleweed*
Jan 05 00:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 05 00:47:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00460163 = 9.6634 BTC [+]
Jan 05 00:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	also forum link  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134799.0
Jan 05 00:55:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00460163 = 3.6813 BTC [+]
Jan 05 00:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00461305 = 5.997 BTC [+]
Jan 05 00:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00462586 = 1.3878 BTC [+]
Jan 05 01:00:52 <pizzaman1337>	cool
Jan 05 01:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00066 = 5.742 BTC [+]
Jan 05 01:13:08 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 tell your friends :D
Jan 05 01:23:22 <pigeons>	wow the mpex banner ad makes mpex look sexy
Jan 05 01:23:28 <pigeons>	until you click the link
Jan 05 01:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 05 01:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	advertising for you
Jan 05 01:25:43 <pigeons>	who keeps buying the asks and selling the bids?
Jan 05 01:26:45 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: does bcgi have the doubble cherry truck (semi-articulated lorry) award?
Jan 05 01:26:56 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons no wai!
Jan 05 01:27:05 <mircea_popescu>	also, what symbol you mean ?
Jan 05 01:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00066 = 14.949 BTC [+]
Jan 05 01:27:42 <pigeons>	i mean the Bitcoin Consumer Group Interest you told me about
Jan 05 01:28:00 <pigeons>	oh dice and mpoe
Jan 05 01:28:08 <pigeons>	both
Jan 05 01:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	o. my guess would be "people"
Jan 05 01:29:44 <pigeons>	they will never get big enough to be a scam
Jan 05 01:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	this should just be the new forum headline
Jan 05 01:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	so pigeons you saw bitbet ?
Jan 05 01:32:37 <pigeons>	yep, congrats, good luck
Jan 05 01:32:51 <kakobrekla>	you forgot "good bye"
Jan 05 01:32:52 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 05 01:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 05 01:33:05 <pigeons>	heh
Jan 05 01:33:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 647 @ 0.00459936 = 2.9758 BTC [-]
Jan 05 01:44:44 <pigeons>	someone get hackelock investment guy in here
Jan 05 01:44:49 <pigeons>	did he show any holdings of S.DICE
Jan 05 01:45:00 <kakobrekla>	he has a non signed stetment
Jan 05 01:45:03 <kakobrekla>	from mpex
Jan 05 01:45:04 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 05 01:45:05 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 05 01:45:12 <kakobrekla>	tab 2 or 3
Jan 05 01:45:14 <kakobrekla>	on the site
Jan 05 01:45:23 <kakobrekla>	when you look at the asset
Jan 05 01:45:42 <pigeons>	no-s-signed seem ridicukoius
Jan 05 01:45:55 <kakobrekla>	indeed so
Jan 05 01:47:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 871 @ 0.00454891 = 3.9621 BTC [-]
Jan 05 01:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	what ? link ?
Jan 05 01:49:54 <pigeons>	my internet is slow here at the trailer park
Jan 05 01:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 381 @ 0.00459212 = 1.7496 BTC [+]
Jan 05 01:50:06 <mircea_popescu>	Confirmed total: 121 BTC
Jan 05 01:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is looking good.
Jan 05 01:50:44 <Namjies>	damn
Jan 05 01:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	whoever wanted to short mpoe i guess now they can
Jan 05 01:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	for as little as .1 btc or w/e
Jan 05 01:51:24 <Namjies>	short mpoe?
Jan 05 01:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	well in a sense
Jan 05 01:52:02 <kakobrekla>	more of a hedge no?
Jan 05 01:52:40 <mod6>	S.BBET! :]
Jan 05 01:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	i guess actually
Jan 05 01:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 hi!
Jan 05 01:52:59 <mod6>	hi. just saw this. very cool
Jan 05 01:53:55 <Namjies>	Seems kinda small tho. 1% fee on such small bets.
Jan 05 01:55:08 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 so make a bet!
Jan 05 01:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	Namjies if it has 100 btc bet a day that's more monthly income than the average mining farm.
Jan 05 01:55:39 <mod6>	im checkin it out now! suprised I haven't seen this yet...
Jan 05 01:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	you couldn't have seeing how it was just opened hours ago.
Jan 05 01:59:08 <Namjies>	Aye. There's not too many bets in similar sites either
Jan 05 01:59:41 <Namjies>	Looks nice for a start tho
Jan 05 01:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 236 @ 0.00454891 = 1.0735 BTC [-]
Jan 05 01:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 664 @ 0.0045181 = 3 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 02:02:59 <honeybadger>	Looks like MPEx ate some of my bitcoins.
Jan 05 02:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident honeybadger
Jan 05 02:04:03 <gribble>	Nick 'honeybadger', with hostmask 'honeybadger!ade705cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.231.5.203', is not identified.
Jan 05 02:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	mk, how do we identify you ?
Jan 05 02:04:33 <honeybadger>	I sent you a message on bitcointalk
Jan 05 02:04:39 <honeybadger>	been experimenting with CoinBR.
Jan 05 02:04:46 <honeybadger>	signed it there.
Jan 05 02:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe-pr ?
Jan 05 02:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's the pr chick and she's asleep. email ?
Jan 05 02:07:11 <kakobrekla>	you lost them on mpex or coinbr?
Jan 05 02:07:33 <honeybadger>	Ok, got the message to sent to the PR. Where would you like me to send it?
Jan 05 02:07:51 <honeybadger>	Was going to use the direct deposit method with CoinBR.
Jan 05 02:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/office.jpg
Jan 05 02:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	it's in the faq
Jan 05 02:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	but if you don't have the depisit signature (such as, coinbr did it, not you) you'll have to bug jurov about it
Jan 05 02:08:46 <honeybadger>	it told me to send a specific amount; the iPhone Blockchain app rounded up by .00000042; Google Docs does it .0000004199999999 when I try to get the difference between the two.
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Jan 05 02:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	o boy.
Jan 05 02:09:21 <honeybadger>	yeah, so I don't think the iPhone app did it.
Jan 05 02:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	DEPOSIT|{sum}, where the sum is an integer, written in BTC (note that you can not deposit less than 10 BTC). You will be quoted an exact sum, which you must send to the exchange address (1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx). Don't round anything, the decimals are there to identify you as the beneficiary. You will be credited the full amount.
Jan 05 02:10:12 <kakobrekla>	its jobs fault
Jan 05 02:10:21 <honeybadger>	25.02770658; copy pasted with the did that with the QR code that scanned; verified it then hit send payment; it sent 25.027707
Jan 05 02:11:04 <honeybadger>	in Google Docs 25.027707-25.02770658=.0000004199999999
Jan 05 02:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	aite, drop by tomorrow, we'll see what jurov has to say about this.
Jan 05 02:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	as for now, i bid you all a very good 7am night.
Jan 05 02:11:43 <honeybadger>	can you hit him up about it; I'll be in Vegas for CES and probably can't stop by.
Jan 05 02:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Jan 05 02:11:55 <honeybadger>	thanks.
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Jan 05 02:13:36 <honeybadger>	kakobrekla, it is deeper isn't it? with how the bytes are summed?
Jan 05 02:13:50 <honeybadger>	not really a CoinBr or iPhone app issue....?
Jan 05 02:15:01 <kakobrekla>	i dunno what happened to you exactly, but im guessing an app you used to send it from didnt send the exact amount or smth
Jan 05 02:15:27 <kakobrekla>	its not jobs fault really
Jan 05 02:15:38 <kakobrekla>	i just dont like him.
Jan 05 02:16:25 <honeybadger>	well, obviously it didn't send the right amount.
Jan 05 02:16:49 <honeybadger>	But I think it has to do with how the bytes are processed at the eighth decimal at a much deeper layer than just the iPhone app
Jan 05 02:16:58 <honeybadger>	there have been other issues with this in Bitcoin development
Jan 05 02:24:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00065999 = 1.122 BTC [-]
Jan 05 02:25:47 <kakobrekla>	not as you dont use floats
Jan 05 02:25:53 <kakobrekla>	not as long*
Jan 05 02:25:58 <kakobrekla>	fuck
Jan 05 02:26:06 <kakobrekla>	not as long as you dont use floats
Jan 05 02:26:16 <kakobrekla>	im off to sleep as well
Jan 05 02:26:20 <kakobrekla>	;)
Jan 05 02:26:25 <kakobrekla>	gnite
Jan 05 02:27:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 419 @ 0.00459212 = 1.9241 BTC [+]
Jan 05 02:27:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 653 @ 0.00459213 = 2.9987 BTC [+]
Jan 05 02:27:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 398 @ 0.00462586 = 1.8411 BTC [+]
Jan 05 02:27:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3329 @ 0.00469836 = 15.6408 BTC [+]
Jan 05 02:27:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00470032 = 9.6357 BTC [+]
Jan 05 02:27:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 897 @ 0.00470695 = 4.2221 BTC [+]
Jan 05 02:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3487 @ 0.00472105 = 16.4623 BTC [+]
Jan 05 02:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 767 @ 0.00477702 = 3.664 BTC [+]
Jan 05 02:28:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00065999 = 4.2899 BTC [-]
Jan 05 02:30:30 <honeybadger>	good night
Jan 05 02:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00065878 = 1.7787 BTC [-]
Jan 05 02:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00065078 = 1.1063 BTC [-]
Jan 05 02:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6082 @ 0.00065078 = 3.958 BTC [-]
Jan 05 02:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6018 @ 0.00064463 = 3.8794 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 03:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44 @ 0.00065999 = 0.029 BTC [+]
Jan 05 03:37:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 64 @ 0.00458109 = 0.2932 BTC [-]
Jan 05 03:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 60 @ 0.0049 = 0.294 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 03:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 536 @ 0.00458109 = 2.4555 BTC [-]
Jan 05 03:54:24 <Namjies>	Who's buying BitVPS?
Jan 05 03:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 405 @ 0.00065999 = 0.2673 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 03:59:36 <Namjies>	I advise against it. Dividend is soon and it's ridiculous.
Jan 05 03:59:54 <Namjies>	The monthly statement looks neat tho.
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Jan 05 04:33:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 364 @ 0.00461681 = 1.6805 BTC [+]
Jan 05 04:33:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2636 @ 0.00454313 = 11.9757 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 04:41:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 64 @ 0.00454313 = 0.2908 BTC [-]
Jan 05 04:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2086 @ 0.0045181 = 9.4248 BTC [-]
Jan 05 04:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 964 @ 0.00451744 = 4.3548 BTC [-]
Jan 05 04:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 336 @ 0.00451744 = 1.5179 BTC [-]
Jan 05 04:54:45 <jurov>	hi all
Jan 05 04:55:11 <jurov>	honeybadger, you around? PM me
Jan 05 04:56:57 <jurov>	looks like we have completely opposite circadian rhythms :/
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Jan 05 05:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1351 @ 0.00065999 = 0.8916 BTC [+]
Jan 05 05:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5199 @ 0.00066 = 3.4313 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 05:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00438452 = 4.823 BTC [-]
Jan 05 05:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00434 = 3.472 BTC [-]
Jan 05 05:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00066 = 13.431 BTC [+]
Jan 05 05:55:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00065056 = 7.0586 BTC [-]
Jan 05 05:56:15 <jurov>	CoinBr announcement: Due to serious bookkeeping mismatch placing new orders was disabled effective immediately. This is NOT an security problem, after we fix the bug, service will resume normally.
Jan 05 05:56:28 <jurov>	it's official, we have hit a snafu
Jan 05 05:59:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2750 @ 0.00434 = 11.935 BTC [-]
Jan 05 06:16:18 <jurov>	fuck the mpex order quantum waves, again
Jan 05 06:17:28 <jurov>	you place the order. first the txs appear, but the rest of the order only 10 seconds later on next stat
Jan 05 06:18:20 <jurov>	so, apparently i have to account for anything can happen in any order on mpex
Jan 05 06:24:57 <markedathome>	rofl a ufo sighting before jan 11?
Jan 05 06:26:54 <markedathome>	jurov: so I haven't funded yet my coinbr acct. what happens to charges?
Jan 05 06:27:45 <jurov>	accounts without any btc/assets don't pay monthly fees
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Jan 05 06:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1195 @ 0.00065056 = 0.7774 BTC [-]
Jan 05 06:36:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 364 @ 0.00441502 = 1.6071 BTC [+]
Jan 05 06:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 201 @ 0.00445002 = 0.8945 BTC [+]
Jan 05 07:06:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1424 @ 0.00438859 = 6.2494 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 07:24:54 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 05 07:24:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.39851, Best ask: 13.42999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03148, Last trade: 13.42999, 24 hour volume: 25403.16954525, 24 hour low: 13.28810, 24 hour high: 13.54800, 24 hour vwap: 13.45810
Jan 05 07:25:02 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 05 07:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00360676 / 0.00397963 / 0.0048 (523491 shares, 2,083.30 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00331621 / 0.0048 (13649923 shares, 45,266.03 BTC)
Jan 05 07:27:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 876 @ 0.00438859 = 3.8444 BTC [-]
Jan 05 07:27:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 774 @ 0.00434 = 3.3592 BTC [-]
Jan 05 07:39:26 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu  How does order execution priority work with the S.BBET IPO?
Jan 05 07:43:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064617 = 3.2309 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 07:46:34 <Bugpowder>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Jan 05 07:46:34 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours, 34 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> sure.
Jan 05 07:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1349 @ 0.00445002 = 6.0031 BTC [+]
Jan 05 07:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1851 @ 0.00446546 = 8.2656 BTC [+]
Jan 05 07:51:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00064694 = 0.744 BTC [+]
Jan 05 07:52:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5049 @ 0.00064694 = 3.2664 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 08:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2593 @ 0.00434 = 11.2536 BTC [-]
Jan 05 08:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 22407 @ 0.00433 = 97.0223 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 08:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2593 @ 0.00433 = 11.2277 BTC [-]
Jan 05 08:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 107 @ 0.00432507 = 0.4628 BTC [-]
Jan 05 08:26:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7000 @ 0.0043254 = 30.2778 BTC [+]
Jan 05 08:26:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2172 @ 0.00432507 = 9.3941 BTC [-]
Jan 05 08:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00065954 = 2.7041 BTC [+]
Jan 05 08:33:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3350 @ 0.00441766 = 14.7992 BTC [+]
Jan 05 08:42:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 51 @ 0.11154708 = 5.6889 BTC [-]
Jan 05 08:51:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 366 @ 0.00432507 = 1.583 BTC [-]
Jan 05 08:51:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2484 @ 0.00428926 = 10.6545 BTC [-]
Jan 05 08:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1816 @ 0.00428926 = 7.7893 BTC [-]
Jan 05 08:54:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1534 @ 0.00428633 = 6.5752 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 08:57:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1272 @ 0.00428633 = 5.4522 BTC [-]
Jan 05 08:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1428 @ 0.00428 = 6.1118 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 09:02:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00436462 = 9.1657 BTC [+]
Jan 05 09:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00065796 = 2.895 BTC [-]
Jan 05 09:06:43 <Bugpowder>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Jan 05 09:06:44 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 54 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> sure.
Jan 05 09:06:50 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 05 09:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00366925 / 0.00401902 / 0.0048 (572589 shares, 2,301.25 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00332038 / 0.0048 (13701005 shares, 45,492.56 BTC)
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Jan 05 09:15:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00065796 = 1.6449 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 09:31:54 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 05 09:31:56 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0037 / 0.00404649 / 0.0048 (527247 shares, 2,133.50 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00332038 / 0.0048 (13701005 shares, 45,492.56 BTC)
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Jan 05 09:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	jurov baby you about ?
Jan 05 09:34:12 <markedathome>	on
Jan 05 09:37:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00441766 = 1.1044 BTC [+]
Jan 05 09:39:18 <jurov>	yes?
Jan 05 09:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00065796 = 12.896 BTC [-]
Jan 05 09:42:03 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu WRT S.BBET Can you be more specific as to how the IPO share allocation will work with respect to buy orders placed before Jan 11?  Is it based on time of order placement priority, proportional distribution to all valid orders, lotto system?
Jan 05 09:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	nope, the orders just go out on the 11th
Jan 05 09:42:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00441766 = 3.9759 BTC [+]
Jan 05 09:42:47 <mircea_popescu>	whoever has the top bid gets it (at the price he bid)
Jan 05 09:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	eventually as bids and asks exhaust each other a gap will form.
Jan 05 09:43:16 <Bugpowder>	so block 1 goes on sale
Jan 05 09:43:31 <Bugpowder>	and person with the highest bid gets it
Jan 05 09:43:32 <Bugpowder>	?
Jan 05 09:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, like any normal sale. if i was to sell 10k of my stock right now, what'd happen ?
Jan 05 09:43:53 <mircea_popescu>	no matter what price i ask, as long as it's under what we have there
Jan 05 09:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	18`177	0.00045950
Jan 05 09:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	so, 10k sells 45950,
Jan 05 09:44:06 <Bugpowder>	i see
Jan 05 09:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	8.177 left on book, next block sells into that etc.
Jan 05 09:44:24 <Bugpowder>	ok makes sense
Jan 05 09:44:45 <Bugpowder>	was hoping for time of order priority of course
Jan 05 09:44:50 <Bugpowder>	then I would be rich
Jan 05 09:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	ya but if i had a scheme like that i wouldn't be issuing at 1k satoshi.
Jan 05 09:45:22 <mircea_popescu>	obviously a lot of what we do here is experimental, this method should allow for very wide price discovery.
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Jan 05 09:53:19 <mircea_popescu>	that said, i'm really curious where price ends up
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Jan 05 09:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2610 @ 0.00441766 = 11.5301 BTC [+]
Jan 05 09:59:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 101.57 / 0.33
Jan 05 09:59:14 <gribble>	307.787878788
Jan 05 09:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 3.17 / 0.15
Jan 05 09:59:23 <gribble>	21.1333333333
Jan 05 09:59:45 <mircea_popescu>	so... it's about 15 times more likely for BFL to deliver asics by april than for mpoe to crash under 3
Jan 05 10:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4951 @ 0.00065796 = 3.2576 BTC [-]
Jan 05 10:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1045 @ 0.00065465 = 0.6841 BTC [-]
Jan 05 10:01:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00064617 = 1.8093 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 10:09:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 163 @ 0.00441766 = 0.7201 BTC [+]
Jan 05 10:09:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1637 @ 0.00441792 = 7.2321 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 10:23:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1163 @ 0.00441792 = 5.138 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 10:38:26 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> so... it's about 15 times more likely for BFL to deliver asics by april than for mpoe to  crash under 3
Jan 05 10:38:33 <smickles>	wut?
Jan 05 10:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/
Jan 05 10:38:53 <mircea_popescu>	first two
Jan 05 10:38:56 <smickles>	oh
Jan 05 10:39:09 <smickles>	i thought you had fancy maths
Jan 05 10:39:24 <mircea_popescu>	these be fancy maths dammit.
Jan 05 10:39:46 <smickles>	the mpoe bet sound like a nice hedge
Jan 05 10:40:06 <smickles>	assuming this 'got milk' site is 'legit'
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Jan 05 10:40:22 <smickles>	lol, I see a great ad there
Jan 05 10:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00445519 = 6.2373 BTC [+]
Jan 05 10:41:03 <mircea_popescu>	you musta missed the announcement
Jan 05 10:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134799.msg1435580#msg1435580
Jan 05 10:41:40 <smickles>	i did wander off, have a beer (OMGPISS) and go to bed
Jan 05 10:42:11 <smickles>	oh shit! it's listed too?
Jan 05 10:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 05 10:42:28 <gribble>	Time since last block: 27 minutes and 0 seconds
Jan 05 10:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	all the good stuff
Jan 05 10:42:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064286 = 4.6286 BTC [-]
Jan 05 10:42:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00064196 = 8.9232 BTC [-]
Jan 05 10:42:40 <smickles>	oh shit! kakobreklaa irlname is Matic?
Jan 05 10:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	isn't that funnay ?
Jan 05 10:43:06 <kakobreklaa>	why is it funny
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Jan 05 10:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you were gone!
Jan 05 10:43:41 <kakobreklaa>	almost
Jan 05 10:43:42 <smickles>	I thought it was funny b/c i repeated myself but changed it to an immaterial detail
Jan 05 10:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	it's funnay because if your last name were auto...
Jan 05 10:44:29 <kakobreklaa>	accually people close to me call me 'tic' which sounds like 'tits' but it can accually mean 'dick'.
Jan 05 10:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	o, c is really tz huh
Jan 05 10:45:07 <kakobreklaa>	sounds like tits but mean dick
Jan 05 10:45:10 <kakobreklaa>	is what my twitter says
Jan 05 10:45:13 <smickles>	hey, so what sets youguys apart from (say) betsofbitcoin
Jan 05 10:45:58 <kakobreklaa>	colors!
Jan 05 10:46:03 <kakobreklaa>	jk jk
Jan 05 10:46:12 <smickles>	that's a great competitive edge
Jan 05 10:46:19 <smickles>	i'ts how mpex beat glbse ofc
Jan 05 10:46:20 <kakobreklaa>	well you dont need to register
Jan 05 10:46:25 <kakobreklaa>	i think that is important factor
Jan 05 10:46:33 <smickles>	ooh, yes indeed
Jan 05 10:47:03 <kakobreklaa>	and we have comments
Jan 05 10:47:08 <kakobreklaa>	and bets are public
Jan 05 10:47:35 <kakobreklaa>	and you dont need to click next when you browse the bets :)
Jan 05 10:47:58 <kakobreklaa>	well you cant click it cause the button aint there
Jan 05 10:48:23 <smickles>	is it that autoload-infiniscroll thing?
Jan 05 10:48:27 <kakobreklaa>	ya
Jan 05 10:48:35 <kakobreklaa>	http://bitbet.us/browse/
Jan 05 10:48:37 <kakobreklaa>	scroll down
Jan 05 10:50:40 <smickles>	i'm confused... is it an animated gif or something ?
Jan 05 10:50:47 <kakobreklaa>	hm?
Jan 05 10:51:13 <smickles>	heh, i mean, it just seems to load the whole page, is that b/c there are not enough bets currently?
Jan 05 10:51:20 <kakobreklaa>	erm
Jan 05 10:51:35 <kakobreklaa>	there 18 open bets
Jan 05 10:51:40 <kakobreklaa>	it loads 5 bets at a time
Jan 05 10:52:02 <kakobreklaa>	i dunno i tested it in opera chrome ie and ff
Jan 05 10:52:11 <smickles>	ah, maybe i just scroll to fast
Jan 05 10:52:12 <kakobreklaa>	so im fairly sure as long you have JS running
Jan 05 10:52:15 <kakobreklaa>	it should work
Jan 05 10:52:17 <smickles>	oh
Jan 05 10:52:19 <smickles>	that's it
Jan 05 10:52:20 <smickles>	no JS
Jan 05 10:52:30 <kakobreklaa>	does it say on the bottom
Jan 05 10:52:34 <kakobreklaa>	something about js
Jan 05 10:52:55 <kakobreklaa>	if i disable it
Jan 05 10:52:58 <kakobreklaa>	i see 'Enable JavaScript to display more bets.'
Jan 05 10:53:13 <smickles>	i seem to just see all the bets
Jan 05 10:53:18 <smickles>	no js notice
Jan 05 10:53:47 <kakobreklaa>	http://shrani.si/f/1w/vq/4nQ2cF8K/bottom.png
Jan 05 10:53:51 <kakobreklaa>	you dont see that box?
Jan 05 10:54:58 <smickles>	no box there
Jan 05 10:55:20 <smickles>	I'll see if i can gather any useful infos
Jan 05 10:55:22 <kakobreklaa>	which browser?
Jan 05 10:55:27 <kakobreklaa>	show me your render
Jan 05 10:56:48 <smickles>	is it loadingplaceholder?
Jan 05 10:56:56 <smickles>	i'm using chromium
Jan 05 10:59:39 <kakobreklaa>	<noscript><div class="betstatusinfobox lightborder">Enable JavaScript to display more bets.</div></noscript>
Jan 05 10:59:46 <kakobreklaa>	i dunno how this could fail
Jan 05 11:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 349 @ 0.00446546 = 1.5584 BTC [+]
Jan 05 11:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00447273 = 9.3927 BTC [+]
Jan 05 11:00:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 551 @ 0.00448047 = 2.4687 BTC [+]
Jan 05 11:00:27 <kakobreklaa>	anyway i gotta run now
Jan 05 11:00:35 <kakobreklaa>	bbl
Jan 05 11:01:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00064196 = 1.1555 BTC [-]
Jan 05 11:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14851 @ 0.0006419 = 9.5329 BTC [-]
Jan 05 11:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2999 @ 0.00064058 = 1.9211 BTC [-]
Jan 05 11:02:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2349 @ 0.00448047 = 10.5246 BTC [+]
Jan 05 11:02:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00449023 = 3.1432 BTC [+]
Jan 05 11:02:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2452 @ 0.00449973 = 11.0333 BTC [+]
Jan 05 11:02:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1164 @ 0.00452306 = 5.2648 BTC [+]
Jan 05 11:03:39 <StarenseN>	thai
Jan 05 11:04:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00064058 = 8.0073 BTC [-]
Jan 05 11:10:14 <smickles>	thowdy :)
Jan 05 11:16:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00064328 = 1.4795 BTC [+]
Jan 05 11:18:49 <smickles>	( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Jan 05 11:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> i seem to just see all the bets << nice failover.
Jan 05 11:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	btw smickles two major sales points : 1. you can get referrals of 1% (= site rake) for any visitors you direct by simply adding ?ref=1bitcoinaddy on any link
Jan 05 11:25:41 <mircea_popescu>	2. each bet gets a .1 btc pool by default, it gets split between yes and no, proposer gets the smaller stake to his own address
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Jan 05 11:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 05 11:26:19 <gribble>	Time since last block: 5 minutes and 43 seconds
Jan 05 11:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 737 @ 0.00445519 = 3.2835 BTC [-]
Jan 05 11:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1063 @ 0.00442616 = 4.705 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 11:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00064328 = 0.9006 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 11:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00064328 = 15.2457 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 11:37:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22204 @ 0.00064328 = 14.2834 BTC [+]
Jan 05 11:39:37 <smickles>	anyone seen the bitvps financial report yet?
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Jan 05 11:54:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1217 @ 0.00442616 = 5.3866 BTC [-]
Jan 05 11:54:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 716 @ 0.00441528 = 3.1613 BTC [-]
Jan 05 11:54:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1167 @ 0.00438706 = 5.1197 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 11:56:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1836 @ 0.00438706 = 8.0546 BTC [-]
Jan 05 11:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 764 @ 0.00436462 = 3.3346 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 12:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1446 @ 0.00452306 = 6.5403 BTC [+]
Jan 05 12:15:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00453104 = 15.8586 BTC [+]
Jan 05 12:15:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 154 @ 0.00453131 = 0.6978 BTC [+]
Jan 05 12:15:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2655 @ 0.00453131 = 12.0306 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 12:27:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00065954 = 3.4956 BTC [+]
Jan 05 12:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3674 @ 0.00066 = 2.4248 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 12:33:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3813 @ 0.00436462 = 16.6423 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 12:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00436462 = 12.2209 BTC [-]
Jan 05 13:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 05 13:04:21 <gribble>	Time since last block: 4 minutes and 26 seconds
Jan 05 13:16:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00438885 = 3.5111 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 13:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00438885 = 3.95 BTC [+]
Jan 05 13:35:07 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the listed companies, do they agree to pay a fine to the exchange if they violate a clause of the shareholder agreement?
Jan 05 13:35:27 <smickles>	like, bitvps has to present the financial report today
Jan 05 13:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Jan 05 13:35:39 <smickles>	is there any penalty if they don't? at all?
Jan 05 13:35:46 <mircea_popescu>	it's not practical, in the sense that a fine doesn't improve a company's incentive really.
Jan 05 13:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	but i will be making a statement re bvps on the 15th
Jan 05 13:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	giving teh ppl some time to get their shit together before then.
Jan 05 13:36:34 <smickles>	so, what would give the incentive?
Jan 05 13:37:15 <smickles>	delisting if it becomes  egregious?
Jan 05 13:37:18 <mircea_popescu>	what i mean is, if company is in good standing, the prospect of a fine if they're not in good standing isn't particularly impressive
Jan 05 13:37:32 <mircea_popescu>	if they're NOT in good standing, a fine is just another promise not to keep
Jan 05 13:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	again doesn't do much
Jan 05 13:37:40 <mircea_popescu>	but yes.
Jan 05 13:39:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00441901 = 3.5352 BTC [+]
Jan 05 13:43:17 <mod6>	I am hopeful for S.BVPS and the new group to run it
Jan 05 13:44:10 <mod6>	It's paid div's every months since IPO... too bad rg has too much going on just like the rest of us :P  I'm hoping the new group can really take it where it needs to go.
Jan 05 13:46:11 <jurov>	perhaps they have a problem to accurately account for downtime credits (i got 1.5BTC credit twice)
Jan 05 13:47:03 <mod6>	yeah. more work needs to be put into it.
Jan 05 13:48:13 <smickles>	jurov: As I am the chief scientist of the soebot foundation, you should send that extra 1.5 btc to me.
Jan 05 13:49:29 <mod6>	i wish they would have tried to get you on retainer to do the monthly financials, smickles
Jan 05 13:49:42 <mod6>	or at least, in a more perm basis
Jan 05 13:50:01 <smickles>	I would've liked it too
Jan 05 13:50:09 <smickles>	I did offer
Jan 05 13:50:14 <mod6>	yeah, i remember that.
Jan 05 13:51:03 <mod6>	stuff was just moving too fast this year -- this year will be a good time for them to get orginized and grow and maintain the company
Jan 05 13:53:42 <mod6>	It has a sizeable customer base, or did at one time, that's worth trying to preserve.
Jan 05 14:03:05 <mircea_popescu>	haha so i guess Namjies is the first guy to make some money on bitbet
Jan 05 14:03:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/13/
Jan 05 14:03:27 <mircea_popescu>	with an unlucky number to boot
Jan 05 14:05:14 <mod6>	ahh! earthquake 'eh
Jan 05 14:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 254 @ 0.00453131 = 1.151 BTC [+]
Jan 05 14:06:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00454738 = 2.5011 BTC [+]
Jan 05 14:06:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 217 @ 0.00455387 = 0.9882 BTC [+]
Jan 05 14:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 629 @ 0.00455792 = 2.8669 BTC [+]
Jan 05 14:06:58 *	mod6 needs to think up a wager
Jan 05 14:08:42 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
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Jan 05 14:09:27 <smickles>	if I had known, I think earthquakes are fairly common, especiall on that timeframe
Jan 05 14:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine the person putting 1  btc in was expecting much better odds for his money lol
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Jan 05 14:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5100 @ 0.00445112 = 22.7007 BTC [-]
Jan 05 14:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 882 @ 0.00441901 = 3.8976 BTC [-]
Jan 05 14:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1471 @ 0.00455792 = 6.7047 BTC [+]
Jan 05 14:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2973 @ 0.00456817 = 13.5812 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 14:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15151 @ 0.00066 = 9.9997 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 14:33:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3550 @ 0.00441901 = 15.6875 BTC [-]
Jan 05 14:36:31 <jurov>	smickles: soebot foundation is nonprofit seeking donations?!
Jan 05 14:38:00 <smickles>	jurov: I know you want to send blankets or water, just send your cash.
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Jan 05 14:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00445899 = 4.459 BTC [+]
Jan 05 14:41:11 <jurov>	smickles, you should have used coinbr. there was a bug with order cancellation, if done cautiously, you could have gotten your cash
Jan 05 14:41:34 <smickles>	jurov: my new spokesperson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibMf68i4rz8
Jan 05 14:41:37 <jurov>	out of my pocket
Jan 05 14:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol what bug was that ?
Jan 05 14:44:00 <jurov>	i did some fixes to better adapt for delayed mpex order cancellation
Jan 05 14:44:28 <jurov>	and basically, mismatched the sign, so user got credited btc twice
Jan 05 14:44:49 <pigeons>	as chief scientist of the pigeon group i can help with that
Jan 05 14:45:07 <jurov>	as it effected only partially executed orders, it went unnoticed till yesterday
Jan 05 14:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	ouch.
Jan 05 14:45:56 <jurov>	so the particular users got 190 BTC, went on a binge draining other users' balance to buy S.DICE
Jan 05 14:46:14 <jurov>	and then he came here complaining about the 25BTC deposit
Jan 05 14:46:25 <pigeons>	damn
Jan 05 14:46:37 <pigeons>	have you talked to him bout it?
Jan 05 14:47:02 <pigeons>	rollback!
Jan 05 14:47:10 <jurov>	i'm waiting whole day for him to appear
Jan 05 14:47:24 <jurov>	or to send email.. got nothing
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Jan 05 14:48:11 <jurov>	add to that, it happened at worst possible time, i could not react quickly and in meantime other users put other orders(or tried to)
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Jan 05 14:49:04 <jurov>	but no serious harm was done, except the recovery got much more complicated
Jan 05 14:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ouch!
Jan 05 14:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	well, let me quote
Jan 05 14:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	in case you don't have it
Jan 05 14:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	<honeybadger> can you hit him up about it; I'll be in Vegas for CES and probably can't stop by.
Jan 05 14:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	<mircea_popescu> sure.
Jan 05 14:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine he shows up tomorrow or w/e
Jan 05 14:52:16 <jurov>	okay. i'll be definitely interested to know how 190BTC credit could have gone unnoticed.
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Jan 05 14:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	i guess you can impound his shares till resolved.
Jan 05 14:54:50 <smickles>	well, I for one have never noticed 190btc showing up in my account
Jan 05 14:55:19 <jurov>	it is already resolved, im doing last checks, then open the gates
Jan 05 14:55:28 <jurov>	fortunately s.dice went up
Jan 05 14:55:40 <jurov>	so i don't have to cover
Jan 05 14:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	and i thought you were a little grumpy today lol. well no wonder :p
Jan 05 14:57:17 <jurov>	and as to that deposit, if it wasn't already said, mpex policy is apparently that if you round or typo even few satoshi for deposit
Jan 05 14:57:22 <jurov>	it is treated as donation
Jan 05 14:57:27 <jurov>	yes?
Jan 05 14:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	in the worst case
Jan 05 14:57:54 <pigeons>	bulanula/nethead method
Jan 05 14:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	ie if you're an ass about it.
Jan 05 14:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	this is how goat got about 1.5 btc impounded back in 2011 and he's been ragging on mpex ever since
Jan 05 14:58:23 <mircea_popescu>	well... ever since before he got banned/whatever
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Jan 05 15:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	but otherwise, the problem we have here is this : you're sending noobs to deposit to mpex, they're doing noobish things. mpex isn't made, or even able to cope with noobs. so that doesn't work too well.
Jan 05 15:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	why don't you make a nice deposit page so they can deposit straight to coinbr, and float them yourself, like normal people ?
Jan 05 15:01:51 <pigeons>	i think you should make it so they deposit to weexchange.co, then it funds coinbr ;)
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Jan 05 15:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	well whichever way that doesn't have people rediscovering that whatever fashionable app is borkt every six days and a half.
Jan 05 15:05:20 <pigeons>	i didn't know goat was butthurt over losing 1.5 btc in an error to mpex
Jan 05 15:06:50 <mircea_popescu>	was way early.
Jan 05 15:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	back in the old mpoe days. page went like send X exactly, if you don't we keep it etc
Jan 05 15:07:16 <pigeons>	yeah it was clear
Jan 05 15:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	he sent 1.5 btc and was liek "hey, i would like some options plx kthx"
Jan 05 15:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	and then "what are you going to do about it!!1"
Jan 05 15:07:49 <pigeons>	yes he is known for his people skills and tact
Jan 05 15:08:09 <jurov>	well, we already discussed it privately and i think you will have to deal with deposit problems sooner or later
Jan 05 15:08:30 <mod6>	Seems fine to me.
Jan 05 15:08:36 <jurov>	so is this an official request to discontinue coinbr direct deposit function?
Jan 05 15:09:19 <jurov>	indirect deposit is already working, it's no problem to disable the other one
Jan 05 15:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	man this cosse noir is incredible
Jan 05 15:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	i forgot it in the fridge.
Jan 05 15:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	jurov whats direct/indirect mean ?
Jan 05 15:12:03 <jurov>	direct is that "sending noobs to deposit to mpex"
Jan 05 15:12:17 <jurov>	indirect is funding into coinbr wallet first
Jan 05 15:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	ok, then please bolt down in a basement somewherhe this direct thing
Jan 05 15:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	it's a horrible thing.
Jan 05 15:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	and i'll exceptionally credit these 25btc, seeing how most of the digits are there and you ask so nicely.
Jan 05 15:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	BUT! FOR SRS! I AM KEEPING ROUNDED SUMS! NOOBS BEWARE!
Jan 05 15:14:03 <smickles>	I only have 'em do direct when they want to deposit 9x btc than I've even had
Jan 05 15:14:25 <jurov>	okay
Jan 05 15:14:27 <smickles>	s/even/evar/
Jan 05 15:14:32 *	jurov shrugs
Jan 05 15:15:08 <mod6>	ahh
Jan 05 15:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i fail to see the advantage in any event
Jan 05 15:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	it becomes a mess of assignments whereby the person with the key is not the person who signed the btc and etfc.
Jan 05 15:17:20 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, prolly no advantage except the lenght of the process
Jan 05 15:17:36 <smickles>	and that's not too much of a benifit
Jan 05 15:17:41 <smickles>	bene*
Jan 05 15:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	bah and now i fucked up the deposit.
Jan 05 15:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	sigh
Jan 05 15:18:55 <smickles>	lol
Jan 05 15:19:10 <smickles>	all the sudden I have 25btc :D
Jan 05 15:19:16 <smickles>	j/k jk
Jan 05 15:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	too late buster, -25 btc to you!
Jan 05 15:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	btw, someone nice enough to put bitbet on reddit ?
Jan 05 15:23:05 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/160tbh/bitcoin_betting_without_an_account/
Jan 05 15:23:08 <smickles>	:P
Jan 05 15:23:21 <smickles>	you should give me 0.01 BTC for that :)
Jan 05 15:23:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550 @ 0.00442 = 11.271 BTC [-]
Jan 05 15:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	make a bet an' i will.
Jan 05 15:23:59 <smickles>	I alread placed a couple of bets
Jan 05 15:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	no i mean, a new one
Jan 05 15:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	as in, a  proposition
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Jan 05 15:29:21 <pigeons>	people who use "satoshi nakamot" as their online nickname (and aren't satoshi) are retarded
Jan 05 15:29:40 <pigeons>	there is this guy on linkedin that uses it and posts all these bitcoin articles
Jan 05 15:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 05 15:30:36 <kakobreklaa>	back
Jan 05 15:30:40 <kakobreklaa>	what did i mis
Jan 05 15:30:41 <kakobreklaa>	s
Jan 05 15:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	o hai.
Jan 05 15:30:56 <jurov>	hello
Jan 05 15:31:16 <kakobreklaa>	heya
Jan 05 15:31:30 <kakobreklaa>	bitbet sold out yet?
Jan 05 15:31:33 <kakobreklaa>	ah not quite.
Jan 05 15:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	nefario made a hostile takeover bid for bitbet
Jan 05 15:31:40 <kakobreklaa>	lol
Jan 05 15:31:45 <kakobreklaa>	howmuch
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Jan 05 15:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	part of a pirate cartel
Jan 05 15:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, they wanna do some exotic stock swap deal
Jan 05 15:32:01 <kakobreklaa>	"whatever was left from the double payments i made!!"
Jan 05 15:32:02 <kakobreklaa>	lol
Jan 05 15:32:09 <kakobreklaa>	a
Jan 05 15:32:13 <kakobreklaa>	glbse stocks for bb
Jan 05 15:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's some new thing paying 7% dividend
Jan 05 15:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	also, say something https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134799.0
Jan 05 15:40:31 <pigeons>	glbse has "emboldoned" folks like lambert (& usagi) to decide they are acceptable members of humanity https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134684.msg1436321#msg1436321
Jan 05 15:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2265 @ 0.00442 = 10.0113 BTC [-]
Jan 05 15:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	lmao you can't make this shit up
Jan 05 15:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	not because you're not clever enough, but because it's way too dumb.
Jan 05 15:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	"i think it costs 30BTC just to open an account? and I don't know how to use their PGP thing..." << this sums it up nicely.
Jan 05 15:44:23 <pigeons>	my toliet paper is a "smooth platform"
Jan 05 15:46:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00442798 = 1.9926 BTC [+]
Jan 05 15:46:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1957 @ 0.00445184 = 8.7123 BTC [+]
Jan 05 15:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	what does that even mean btw ?
Jan 05 15:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	as in, no trades, smooth line ?
Jan 05 15:47:05 <StarenseN>	with fancy glowing blue buttons
Jan 05 15:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Jan 05 15:47:20 <pigeons>	smooth = bootstrap
Jan 05 15:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	"not sure why mpex.co makes it so god damn hard to trade..."
Jan 05 15:47:59 <mircea_popescu>	you know, it's like...why do you think dood ?
Jan 05 15:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	cause you should be in school, that's why.
Jan 05 15:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	answer so obvious, yet "not sure". not sure y not sure.
Jan 05 15:48:24 <kakobreklaa>	lol
Jan 05 15:48:39 <pigeons>	"but i'm very mature for my age, i've had lots of experiences n stuff"
Jan 05 15:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	right-o.
Jan 05 15:49:25 <Namjies>	so those large bids are counter intuitive right now.
Jan 05 15:49:31 <Namjies>	for BBET
Jan 05 15:49:39 <pigeons>	its a trap
Jan 05 15:50:00 <Namjies>	Because it will sell the cheap block into the high bid and so forth
Jan 05 15:50:06 <Namjies>	and reach in the middle
Jan 05 15:50:14 <Namjies>	the cheap bids will never go through.
Jan 05 15:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	well yea.
Jan 05 15:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, from the bitbet rejected bets :
Jan 05 15:52:22 <mircea_popescu>	"None of the representatives in the US Congress could figure out how to use MPEx if locked in a room with a computer for a week".
Jan 05 15:52:41 <kakobreklaa>	lol
Jan 05 15:52:57 <kakobreklaa>	trolls.
Jan 05 15:55:12 <Namjies>	When I push BTC, it's in satoshis?
Jan 05 15:56:45 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Jan 05 16:02:23 <kakobreklaa>	we need a good difficulty bet
Jan 05 16:02:33 <kakobreklaa>	anyone with an idea
Jan 05 16:02:43 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,stats
Jan 05 16:02:49 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 215312 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 399 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 12 hours, 57 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3253116.58774727 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.17829943606
Jan 05 16:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7796 @ 0.00065572 = 5.112 BTC [-]
Jan 05 16:12:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 893 @ 0.00445184 = 3.9755 BTC [+]
Jan 05 16:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1895 @ 0.00445899 = 8.4498 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 16:17:46 <pigeons>	;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134766.0;topicseen
Jan 05 16:17:48 <gribble>	SCAM WARNING!! FROM User BitcoinDoubleSpender
Jan 05 16:18:24 <pigeons>	the content isn't interesting, i just thought you don't need to warn people, his nick already does
Jan 05 16:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2704 @ 0.0006442 = 1.7419 BTC [-]
Jan 05 16:29:23 <StarenseN>	why S.BBET does an IPO for 30BTC cash??
Jan 05 16:29:38 <StarenseN>	wtf??
Jan 05 16:31:49 <mod6>	total equity value of 100 BTC
Jan 05 16:31:53 <jurov>	StarenseN, read the stuff. they will put other offer automatically when this one sells
Jan 05 16:32:03 <mod6>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET
Jan 05 16:32:05 <mod6>	^^^^
Jan 05 16:33:41 <mircea_popescu>	StarenseN ity's not bbet's job to value itself.
Jan 05 16:33:45 <mircea_popescu>	that's what there's a market for
Jan 05 16:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	unsmooth as admittedly it is.
Jan 05 16:35:36 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: how much bbet takes fee?
Jan 05 16:35:56 <mircea_popescu>	1%
Jan 05 16:36:32 <pigeons>	i found a picture of smooth markets https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134684.msg1436637#msg1436637
Jan 05 16:36:58 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 05 16:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	you know, the rate at which this place generates memes is astounding.
Jan 05 16:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, just as a persay forinstance : is milk smooth ?
Jan 05 16:39:02 <Anduck>	haha
Jan 05 16:39:27 <Anduck>	first bet on the site
Jan 05 16:39:29 <Anduck>	S.MPOE will crash this Spring
Jan 05 16:39:29 <Anduck>	    S.MPOE shares 30 day average price as reported by assbot under 0.0003 at any point before April 1st.
Jan 05 16:39:43 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Jan 05 16:39:52 <Anduck>	aaand someone put 100 btc on NO
Jan 05 16:40:00 <Anduck>	how much is S.MPOE trading now?
Jan 05 16:42:21 <Anduck>	;;ticker S.MPOE
Jan 05 16:42:21 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Jan 05 16:42:28 <Anduck>	the duck??
Jan 05 16:42:47 <pigeons>	!ticker S.MPOE
Jan 05 16:42:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00063114 / 0.00065018 / 0.00066 (465887 shares, 302.91 BTC), 30day: 0.00050709 / 0.00060174 / 0.00066 (57480054 shares, 34,588.19 BTC)
Jan 05 16:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	i guess they went with 50% of current 30day avg
Jan 05 16:47:43 <Anduck>	ty
Jan 05 16:49:51 <pigeons>	is there a claims site for getting our glue bottles from SATOSHISDAEMON.HORSE yet?
Jan 05 16:50:06 <kakobreklaa>	lol
Jan 05 16:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	lol not afaik
Jan 05 16:51:07 <dub>	it was bought back
Jan 05 16:51:27 <dub>	the horse went on to trail riding or something speed agnostic
Jan 05 16:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 05 16:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00445899 = 7.5803 BTC [+]
Jan 05 16:54:35 <pigeons>	http://evansracingllc.com/Stable_News.html
Jan 05 16:54:53 <pigeons>	 Unfortunately, she appeared to want nothing to do with racing. We have made the decision to discontinue her racing career with our stable. We wish her new connections good luck in their pursuits with the three year old filly.
Jan 05 16:55:08 <mircea_popescu>	um what the fuck
Jan 05 16:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	this sounds like they're gonna marry her.
Jan 05 16:55:35 <pigeons>	sounds like glue to me
Jan 05 16:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	there's luck involved in glue ?
Jan 05 16:56:04 <pigeons>	yeah the slower ones are more adhesive
Jan 05 16:56:15 <dub>	iirc they said trail riding in the thread but glue or catfood wasnt ruled out
Jan 05 16:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	poor filly.
Jan 05 16:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00065378 = 2.2882 BTC [+]
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Jan 05 16:57:13 <pigeons>	http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bN9se-ul_aE/S_mCrH-jHkI/AAAAAAAAChA/uah6bAyU23k/s1600/glue+factory.jpg
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Jan 05 16:58:55 <mod6>	(13:54) < pigeons>  Unfortunately, she appeared to want nothing to do with racing.
Jan 05 16:59:05 <mod6>	^^^ Thats really quite the laugh.
Jan 05 16:59:36 <mircea_popescu>	Tecshare lied about me scamming him « 1 2 3  All » 	usagi
Jan 05 16:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	that forum.
Jan 05 17:00:12 <pigeons>	yeah he lied about the way i really scammed him, liar
Jan 05 17:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00445899 = 7.1344 BTC [+]
Jan 05 17:01:56 <mircea_popescu>	Only a very limited portion of the Bitcoin Reserve will be available for buybacks. The Bitcoin Reserve's priority will be for balancing first, and then buybacks. I would rather have the fund's shares be traded on the open market, but I know that's not always possible. So, I hope a buyback policy will help in a very limited way with some investor's liquidity.
Jan 05 17:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	("Very limited" 3 times in one paragraph.)
Jan 05 17:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	how to cause a bank run, 101
Jan 05 17:02:23 <pigeons>	is that some usagi shit?
Jan 05 17:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	no some other dood
Jan 05 17:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	lmao wait. those havelok ppl actually pasted mpex stats  w/o the signatures ?
Jan 05 17:09:24 <mircea_popescu>	whatsensedoesthatmake.gif
Jan 05 17:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 921 @ 0.00445899 = 4.1067 BTC [+]
Jan 05 17:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 629 @ 0.00445911 = 2.8048 BTC [+]
Jan 05 17:26:11 <smickles>	really?
Jan 05 17:29:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 185 @ 0.00442 = 0.8177 BTC [-]
Jan 05 17:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1714 @ 0.00441901 = 7.5742 BTC [-]
Jan 05 17:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1051 @ 0.00441316 = 4.6382 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 17:37:50 <jurov>	tadada...coinbr back online
Jan 05 17:39:43 <jurov>	if you want to buy S.BBET, it's is the very last item in new order combobox
Jan 05 17:39:54 <jurov>	it's TODO
Jan 05 17:45:48 <pigeons>	they don't want you to know the name and email labels on their gpg key at hevelock i suppose
Jan 05 17:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2121 @ 0.00445911 = 9.4578 BTC [+]
Jan 05 17:49:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 979 @ 0.00446604 = 4.3723 BTC [+]
Jan 05 17:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4771 @ 0.00446604 = 21.3075 BTC [+]
Jan 05 17:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 229 @ 0.00446937 = 1.0235 BTC [+]
Jan 05 17:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1449 @ 0.00441316 = 6.3947 BTC [-]
Jan 05 17:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 801 @ 0.00437 = 3.5004 BTC [-]
Jan 05 17:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	that's nonsense, since i could look up teh trades they claim neh ?
Jan 05 18:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134766.msg1435323#msg1435323 is this listed on btcjam yet ?
Jan 05 18:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] [PAID] 500000 @ 0.000003 = 1.5 BTC
Jan 05 18:03:40 <kakobreklaa>	fuck, 50% more than sdice.
Jan 05 18:03:55 <Anduck>	xD
Jan 05 18:04:06 <Anduck>	heey i have some bvps..
Jan 05 18:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4199 @ 0.00437 = 18.3496 BTC [-]
Jan 05 18:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 601 @ 0.00436462 = 2.6231 BTC [-]
Jan 05 18:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 05 18:05:11 <jurov>	mircea, so it's really 1.5BTC?
Jan 05 18:05:14 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Jan 05 18:05:31 <Anduck>	who owns BIB??
Jan 05 18:05:39 <mircea_popescu>	MPEx ‏@MPEx1
Jan 05 18:05:39 <mircea_popescu>	S.BVPS paid a total dividend of 1.50000000 BTC to 500`000 outstanding shares. #dividend #bitcoin #btc
Jan 05 18:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	umm
Jan 05 18:05:52 <Anduck>	xD
Jan 05 18:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it is ?!
Jan 05 18:06:03 <Anduck>	but.. who owns BIB? who's Brendio?
Jan 05 18:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating brendio
Jan 05 18:06:14 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User brendio, rated since Tue Sep 13 01:01:41 2011. Cumulative rating 30, from 16 total ratings. Received ratings: 16 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 23 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=brendio
Jan 05 18:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	forum guy
Jan 05 18:06:29 <jurov>	for a moment i thought the dividend payment is going to be retconned again
Jan 05 18:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	haven't seen him a whuile tho
Jan 05 18:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1668 @ 0.00200003 = 3.3361 BTC [-]
Jan 05 18:06:48 <mircea_popescu>	jurov teh assbot used to be the borkt. i guess not anymore maybe
Jan 05 18:06:55 <mircea_popescu>	or its only a problem if divs >1k
Jan 05 18:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1025 @ 0.00446937 = 4.5811 BTC [+]
Jan 05 18:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 812 @ 0.00449166 = 3.6472 BTC [+]
Jan 05 18:07:52 <kakobreklaa>	yeah, the problem doesnt show always but thats not being fixed cause new api is in place
Jan 05 18:08:12 <Anduck>	ok
Jan 05 18:10:06 <smickles>	1.5 BTC dividend, and no report, no announcement about the new owners, no compliance/statement on 2.2.g of the contract :(
Jan 05 18:10:06 <Namjies>	For the shareholders report: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFvQWJnZnRZQWJfbk1mNHYtVzhPR0E#gid=0
Jan 05 18:10:16 <smickles>	oh, spoke too soon :)
Jan 05 18:10:28 <Namjies>	We don't really have a place to publish it.
Jan 05 18:10:52 <Namjies>	We had a 324$ fee which won't be there next months. Otherwise there would have been more.
Jan 05 18:10:57 <smickles>	(e) The Directors solemnly promise and warrant that complete and accurate Statements of Profit and Loss for each calendar month will be published by them no later than by the fifth day of the new month. Under exceptional circumstances and for good cause the publishing of the Statements of Profit and Loss can be deferred no more than once in a calendar year so that the Statement of Profit and Loss of one month is published together with the Statem
Jan 05 18:11:04 <smickles>	???
Jan 05 18:11:54 <Namjies>	But rg was apparently not giving 50% on previous divs but as much as he could. And we seem to have lost a few clients over rg's neglect of the business in the past months.
Jan 05 18:12:32 <Namjies>	We decided to make very detailed statements so everyone knows exactly what's going on with expenses/income
Jan 05 18:12:54 <kakobreklaa>	what are the future plans
Jan 05 18:13:27 <Namjies>	Well we got things back to running smoothly. We'll now try to expand.
Jan 05 18:13:45 <Namjies>	We might advertise a lot in the coming months.
Jan 05 18:14:12 <Namjies>	The servers ain't full, so if we can get more clients, wouldn't raise expenses.
Jan 05 18:15:18 <pigeons>	https://btcjam.com/listings/1133
Jan 05 18:15:22 <mod6>	well good deal Namjies, keep those customers happy! :)
Jan 05 18:15:51 <kakobreklaa>	aint that cute pigeons
Jan 05 18:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5596 @ 0.00065378 = 3.6586 BTC [+]
Jan 05 18:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1104 @ 0.00065325 = 0.7212 BTC [-]
Jan 05 18:17:21 <mod6>	holy shit Namjies
Jan 05 18:17:31 <mod6>	a spreadsheet!
Jan 05 18:17:40 <Namjies>	Yes. Very detailed.
Jan 05 18:17:45 <mod6>	glad to see that :)
Jan 05 18:17:55 <kakobreklaa>	spread shit
Jan 05 18:18:18 <kakobreklaa>	jk jk
Jan 05 18:18:26 <mod6>	awe.. heheh. ok brb.
Jan 05 18:18:31 <Namjies>	For a second I thought you didn't like it
Jan 05 18:18:34 <mod6>	it does look good though, glad to see some statements
Jan 05 18:18:41 <mod6>	bbs
Jan 05 18:19:01 <kakobreklaa>	its cool, statements are cool
Jan 05 18:19:07 <pigeons>	and color
Jan 05 18:19:18 <pigeons>	color ones will make more money
Jan 05 18:19:24 <Namjies>	Well the WHMCS owned license won't be there next months. 325$. We won't have to pay 19$ monthly for it now.
Jan 05 18:19:41 <pigeons>	"bills" is a little vague
Jan 05 18:19:44 <kakobreklaa>	pigeons, also if you put a pic of brain onto it, it will sell more
Jan 05 18:19:54 <pigeons>	kakobreklaa: "in the cloud"
Jan 05 18:20:00 <kakobreklaa>	;)
Jan 05 18:20:14 <Namjies>	Yeah, but it shows the amount in USD we've paid for it.
Jan 05 18:20:25 <Namjies>	As you can see, it matches the USD on server bills.
Jan 05 18:20:31 <pigeons>	cool
Jan 05 18:20:54 <kakobreklaa>	Namjies how many vps-es are run by bitbps
Jan 05 18:20:56 <kakobreklaa>	eh
Jan 05 18:20:57 <kakobreklaa>	bitvps
Jan 05 18:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4148 @ 0.00065325 = 2.7097 BTC [-]
Jan 05 18:21:06 <Namjies>	I'd have to check WHMCS, one sec.
Jan 05 18:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16406983 BTC [-]
Jan 05 18:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.08155862 BTC [-]
Jan 05 18:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.1336008 BTC [-]
Jan 05 18:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.11088032 BTC [-]
Jan 05 18:23:13 <Namjies>	looks like we have 115 active records
Jan 05 18:23:24 <smickles>	one's me :D
Jan 05 18:24:55 <Namjies>	We have 863913 shares on 1 million apparently.
Jan 05 18:26:14 <Namjies>	So only 136087 owned by the public.
Jan 05 18:26:57 <Namjies>	Eh, that's not actually much.
Jan 05 18:27:36 <kakobreklaa>	115 runing virtual servers?
Jan 05 18:27:38 <kakobreklaa>	not that bad
Jan 05 18:28:41 <mod6>	Namjies: weren't only 300`000 released to the public anyway?
Jan 05 18:28:55 <Namjies>	Well 500'000 on MPEx
Jan 05 18:29:06 <pigeons>	fucking romanian commas
Jan 05 18:29:26 <Namjies>	237592 left in S.BVPS account.
Jan 05 18:29:26 <kakobreklaa>	better than romanian commies
Jan 05 18:29:39 <mod6>	ahh. ok
Jan 05 18:30:25 <Namjies>	136087 public
Jan 05 18:30:33 <Namjies>	126321 in my account.
Jan 05 18:31:13 <Namjies>	I had lots of shares prior to rg leaving BitVPS =P
Jan 05 18:31:37 <mod6>	If I had more time I'd offer to help more.
Jan 05 18:31:55 <mod6>	I'm just too tied up with this other stuff.
Jan 05 18:32:07 <mod6>	I've still got like 10k
Jan 05 18:32:11 <Namjies>	I paid them alot thinking the dividend paids were 50% of BitVPS's profit >.>
Jan 05 18:32:29 <Namjies>	Guess I have all the reasons to grow BitVPS now.
Jan 05 18:33:22 <Anduck>	when is this spreadsheet coming out?
Jan 05 18:33:26 <Namjies>	RG was doing no or little accounting.
Jan 05 18:33:32 <Anduck>	oww
Jan 05 18:33:33 <Anduck>	thats bad
Jan 05 18:33:46 <Namjies>	Aye, but he was giving much more than he should
Jan 05 18:33:55 <Anduck>	will you guys make everything automatic btw?
Jan 05 18:34:17 <Namjies>	for VPS provision? Aye
Jan 05 18:36:34 <Anduck>	good
Jan 05 18:41:04 <Namjies>	Aye, just sad we lost many customers over the last months apparently.
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Jan 05 18:43:32 <Anduck>	ya gotta advertise a lot
Jan 05 18:43:59 <mod6>	bad news travels fast when peoples tickes get neglected on stuff like their VPS -- many people use them to host wallets to make payments etc.
Jan 05 18:44:31 <mod6>	if you stay on top of the technical issues and keep up the SLA -- that and some decent customer service will go a long way.
Jan 05 18:45:04 <Namjies>	It's not advertising, the issues from rg being too busy on his new job and the fact he half transfered us the login details (we didn't know the account to pay some bills/get support from datacenters)
Jan 05 18:45:19 <Namjies>	We had some downtime and hard time fixing things.
Jan 05 18:45:26 <Namjies>	All during the holidays =/
Jan 05 18:45:39 <Namjies>	Now everything is back on track.
Jan 05 18:46:13 <mod6>	Well it's good that you got the kinks worked out.  :)
Jan 05 18:46:15 <Anduck>	aww..badluck
Jan 05 18:46:28 <mod6>	Jumping into stuff like that can always get hairy.
Jan 05 18:47:26 <mod6>	the knowledge transfer and roles/responsibilities is tough in a crunch, I know how that goes.
Jan 05 18:48:51 <jurov>	mod6, in fact hosting wallets, at least with full client, is forbidden under bitvps TOS
Jan 05 18:49:32 <jurov>	rg has thought of funding multiwallet patch for bitcoind to allow this
Jan 05 18:49:43 <mod6>	oh hmm.. thought people used to do that
Jan 05 18:50:01 <mod6>	maybe the blockchain just got too big... but I thought that he worked something out?
Jan 05 18:50:07 <mod6>	maybe thats what you're referring to
Jan 05 18:50:39 <jurov>	i don't know. i put together working prototype, but he hadn't time or whatever.
Jan 05 18:50:57 <Namjies>	We moved to bitpay to process payment. We'll lose 0.99% in fees. But like that there's no incentive to hack BitVPS for it's wallet. Plus nice features.
Jan 05 18:51:06 <Namjies>	We'll use an offline wallet.
Jan 05 18:51:28 <jurov>	mod6 meant vps users, not bitvps as a whole
Jan 05 18:51:45 <Namjies>	It was just an unrelated comment
Jan 05 18:52:06 <mod6>	ahh, i understand.
Jan 05 18:57:53 <jurov>	now it's over...craziest birthday in my life
Jan 05 18:58:32 <mod6>	! happy birthday jurov
Jan 05 18:58:37 *	jurov remembers to check facebook to not appear rude
Jan 05 18:58:46 <jurov>	thanks :)
Jan 05 18:59:02 <mod6>	:)
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Jan 05 19:00:28 <smickles>	Happy Jan 6th er'ry body
Jan 05 19:00:32 <smickles>	:D
Jan 05 19:00:40 <smickles>	\o\
Jan 05 19:00:44 <smickles>	/o/
Jan 05 19:00:50 <smickles>	\o/
Jan 05 19:02:14 <jurov>	(*^*)
Jan 05 19:02:41 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobreklaa> Namjies how many vps-es are run by bitbps << ahaha so cute
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Jan 05 19:19:29 <jurov>	looks like bait orders for CoinBr.MPBPT-E work... 22BTC worth sold already
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Jan 05 19:20:17 <jurov>	maybe next month we can try BBET-like strategy
Jan 05 19:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	not bad that huh :p
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Jan 05 19:37:44 <thestrin1puller>	mr. smickles
Jan 05 19:43:31 <jurov>	;;sell 1 BTC 1 MPExBTC "Fast MPEx funding. Fixed fee 0.1BTC"
Jan 05 19:43:32 <gribble>	Order id 12732 created.
Jan 05 19:43:44 <jurov>	30 BTC available atm
Jan 05 19:45:52 <mod6>	there you go! order book ftw!
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Jan 05 20:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/160tbh/bitcoin_betting_without_an_account/
Jan 05 20:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	o hey 21 votes!
Jan 05 20:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/25/ and a reddit bet
Jan 05 20:12:46 <mod6>	nice :)
Jan 05 20:13:30 <smickles>	thestrin1puller: howdy
Jan 05 20:13:40 <smickles>	I'll have to go feed my daughter tho ;)
Jan 05 20:13:47 <smickles>	is it urgent?
Jan 05 20:15:12 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/160tbh/bitcoin_betting_without_an_account/c7rqyoe
Jan 05 20:15:28 <smickles>	heh, well designed site, this ^ as evidence
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Jan 05 20:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	:)
Jan 05 20:25:46 <smickles>	back
Jan 05 20:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	mind telling the guy asking that it's mods that control the outcomes
Jan 05 20:29:19 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/160tbh/bitcoin_betting_without_an_account/c7rr9z1
Jan 05 20:31:37 <mircea_popescu>	hehe ok
Jan 05 20:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	ahhh, i have a good feeling about this site. ppl like it!
Jan 05 20:52:56 <jurov>	lol "non-favoritism of either entity may easily be verified by third parties"
Jan 05 20:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	wassat ?
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Jan 05 21:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00438454 = 3.5076 BTC [-]
Jan 05 21:29:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00440251 = 4.1824 BTC [+]
Jan 05 21:41:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00065993 = 5.8404 BTC [+]
Jan 05 21:51:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 449 @ 0.00436462 = 1.9597 BTC [-]
Jan 05 21:51:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 801 @ 0.00433089 = 3.469 BTC [-]
Jan 05 22:17:49 <leotreasure>	wow! a lot of heavy betting on 12% at sd
Jan 05 22:18:22 <leotreasure>	someone just pumped about 20k
Jan 05 22:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	leotreasure on 12% ?!
Jan 05 22:18:59 <leotreasure>	actually probably closer to 30k
Jan 05 22:19:01 <leotreasure>	yes
Jan 05 22:19:27 <Namjies>	It's technically the same odds long term.
Jan 05 22:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	this is true
Jan 05 22:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	but on the long term we're all deadf.
Jan 05 22:20:08 <Namjies>	The best odds is on the lowest "win" odds
Jan 05 22:20:15 <Namjies>	Margin is lower
Jan 05 22:20:52 <Namjies>	Don't bet 500 BTC. Bet 0.01 x 50 000 on Less than 1
Jan 05 22:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	fees tho
Jan 05 22:24:06 <Namjies>	Ah, true
Jan 05 22:24:18 <Namjies>	Bet 500 BTC x 50 000 then.
Jan 05 22:24:22 <Namjies>	xD
Jan 05 22:24:30 <mircea_popescu>	i was gonna say
Jan 05 22:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	don't bet 1mn btc, bet 1000 1k
Jan 05 22:27:43 <Namjies>	The house should win 1.9% of bets. So you can actually bet about ~52 times as much as you have cash.
Jan 05 22:28:12 <Namjies>	So with 1 million BTC, you could make 52 million BTC bets.
Jan 05 22:28:33 <Namjies>	Then evoorhee is very, very happy
Jan 05 22:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 05 22:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	ahhh, whales on bitbet :D
Jan 05 22:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	miniwhales but still
Jan 05 22:32:41 <kakobreklaa>	so was thinking is this allowed "this bet will reach over 100btc by tomorrow"
Jan 05 22:33:05 <kakobreklaa>	and that that for 500
Jan 05 22:33:06 <kakobreklaa>	and 1000
Jan 05 22:33:09 <kakobreklaa>	and 5000
Jan 05 22:33:11 <kakobreklaa>	and 10k
Jan 05 22:34:49 <Namjies>	... hmm
Jan 05 22:35:23 <Namjies>	I'd say a bet where user can make it happen directly... open to abuse
Jan 05 22:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa no.
Jan 05 22:37:14 <kakobreklaa>	i know
Jan 05 22:37:19 <kakobreklaa>	its a mindfuck
Jan 05 22:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2290 @ 0.00440251 = 10.0817 BTC [+]
Jan 05 22:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	too meta anyway.
Jan 05 22:40:10 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,stats
Jan 05 22:40:12 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 215353 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 358 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 7 hours, 5 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3252770.12040778 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.16667159737
Jan 05 22:40:23 <kakobreklaa>	hmm
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Jan 05 22:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	lmao bitbet is being attacked.
Jan 05 22:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	i guess someone's figuring they're the competition ?
Jan 05 22:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00437644 = 2.1882 BTC [-]
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Jan 05 23:06:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00065384 = 3.5634 BTC [-]
Jan 05 23:08:06 <Namjies>	Well it's getting good betting for something just out.
Jan 05 23:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00435721 = 4.7929 BTC [-]
Jan 05 23:09:41 <Namjies>	THE DICE! IT'S LOADED! I should double everytime I roll six but I roll six 1.9% less than I should statistically do.
Jan 05 23:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	l;ol
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Jan 05 23:41:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 05 23:41:22 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 10 seconds
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Jan 05 23:50:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1349 @ 0.00433089 = 5.8424 BTC [-]
Jan 05 23:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00432627 = 3.0284 BTC [-]
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Jan 06 00:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/27/ << network diff bet if anyone cares.
Jan 06 00:05:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder http://bitbet.us/bet/23/
Jan 06 00:05:59 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 06 00:37:46 <pigeons>	so i'm trying to decide which way to bet on the "will asbot get hacked one"
Jan 06 00:38:28 <kakobreklaa>	hum?
Jan 06 00:39:23 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,stats
Jan 06 00:39:25 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 215366 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 345 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 5 hours, 22 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3248685.45238045 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.02958548411
Jan 06 00:39:28 <pigeons>	it is easier to make assbot report the S.MPOE 30 day average incorrectly than to manipulate the price
Jan 06 00:39:41 <kakobreklaa>	a.
Jan 06 00:39:46 <kakobreklaa>	5 btc
Jan 06 00:39:48 <kakobreklaa>	an ill do it!
Jan 06 00:40:07 <pigeons>	:)
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Jan 06 00:51:44 <pigeons>	is doesn't take a smickles to see where this person's business is going: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkGjIAZQI3fydHpEZWl4RFhnelJwd2xqWE5LeFF0TGc#gid=0
Jan 06 01:00:04 <jcpham>	that made me sad
Jan 06 01:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00430002 = 6.02 BTC [-]
Jan 06 01:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 701 @ 0.00430274 = 3.0162 BTC [+]
Jan 06 01:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 399 @ 0.00435721 = 1.7385 BTC [+]
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Jan 06 01:19:12 <pigeons>	nam world. party on. excellent.
Jan 06 01:19:41 <pigeons>	http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/facebook-post-on-drunk-driving-lands-teen-in-hot-water/2013/01/04/802c55dc-568c-11e2-8b9e-dd8773594efc_story.html
Jan 06 01:20:10 <Namworld>	Boom
Jan 06 01:20:54 <Namworld>	My otc nick just got a sex change. It went from nickname to trademark.
Jan 06 01:21:39 <Namworld>	With the help of some explosives, of course...
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Jan 06 02:42:14 <kuzetsa>	Namworld: I don't understand your meaning.
Jan 06 02:51:45 <Namworld>	My otc nick just got changed, that's it.
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Jan 06 06:12:02 <jurov>	;;ident Namworld
Jan 06 06:12:03 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
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Jan 06 06:25:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00430002 = 4.73 BTC [-]
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Jan 06 06:44:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8516 @ 0.00065992 = 5.6199 BTC [+]
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Jan 06 07:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1747 @ 0.00430002 = 7.5121 BTC [-]
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Jan 06 08:13:40 <Bugpowder>	!ticker
Jan 06 08:13:41 <assbot>	Provide ticker.
Jan 06 08:13:43 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 06 08:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00428 / 0.00441513 / 0.00456817 (131387 shares, 580.09 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00332907 / 0.0048 (13796506 shares, 45,929.60 BTC)
Jan 06 08:13:45 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 06 08:13:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.48000, Best ask: 13.48125, Bid-ask spread: 0.00125, Last trade: 13.48000, 24 hour volume: 19953.47295953, 24 hour low: 13.31400, 24 hour high: 13.52999, 24 hour vwap: 13.43702
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Jan 06 08:21:05 <thestrin1puller>	Bugpowder your sdice lpng term speculation wasbright
Jan 06 08:21:12 <thestrin1puller>	what are you going to do now?
Jan 06 08:22:14 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 06 08:22:20 <Bugpowder>	that was short term speculation
Jan 06 08:22:31 <Bugpowder>	we don't know what will happen long term
Jan 06 08:22:45 <Bugpowder>	if volumes stay up this month, its definitely going higher
Jan 06 08:23:05 <Bugpowder>	if they don't, price will fade
Jan 06 08:23:15 <Bugpowder>	I don't know the mind of the whale.
Jan 06 08:23:31 <Bugpowder>	but I do know his addresses still have >10,000 coins in them
Jan 06 08:23:37 <thestrin1puller>	lets find the whale
Jan 06 08:23:42 <Bugpowder>	and a gambling addict doesn't just quit
Jan 06 08:24:04 <Bugpowder>	My first task is to get pyMPEX to work
Jan 06 08:24:05 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 06 08:24:10 <Bugpowder>	I am sick of copy pasting
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Jan 06 08:26:26 <thestrin1puller>	write your own scripts dr. powder
Jan 06 08:26:33 <thestrin1puller>	its not neuroscience
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Jan 06 08:32:38 <error3477>	what do u call "short term"
Jan 06 08:32:53 <error3477>	a month a year a week ?
Jan 06 08:33:04 <thestrin1puller>	a day for me
Jan 06 08:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	44 up votes 11 down votes
Jan 06 08:33:37 <mircea_popescu>	omfg who are the 11 assholes!
Jan 06 08:33:55 <error3477>	on the bet ?
Jan 06 08:37:01 <Bugpowder>	I have a weird key issue... I will fix
Jan 06 08:37:40 <mircea_popescu>	is this some new microsoft keyboard ?
Jan 06 08:39:44 <thestrin1puller>	mp which post?
Jan 06 08:40:05 <thestrin1puller>	nvm found it
Jan 06 08:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/160tbh/bitcoin_betting_without_an_account/
Jan 06 08:41:05 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: who made bitbet, you?
Jan 06 08:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa mostly.
Jan 06 08:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	im just there to keep it from being really successful.
Jan 06 08:41:59 <jurov>	yeah, mpoe-pr will make sure of that :P
Jan 06 08:42:19 <mircea_popescu>	hater.
Jan 06 08:43:20 <thestrin1puller>	are you really going to sabotage it?
Jan 06 08:43:39 <jurov>	loool
Jan 06 08:44:38 <thestrin1puller>	can I help sabotage it
Jan 06 08:45:01 <thestrin1puller>	i will help for .1 btc
Jan 06 08:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	make a bet lol
Jan 06 08:46:09 <jurov>	i have a fun bet proposal: The Rota won't sentence anyone till...whatever
Jan 06 08:46:18 <jurov>	1st April?
Jan 06 08:46:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/27/
Jan 06 08:46:36 <mircea_popescu>	wow so its 20:1 that we don't have asics basically.
Jan 06 08:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	well i don't think that can be a bet cause one person could easily manipulate it
Jan 06 08:47:18 <thestrin1puller>	nah. i already am drawing up papers for a court date against usagi on behalf of the shareholders
Jan 06 08:47:22 <thestrin1puller>	lolololol
Jan 06 08:47:51 <jurov>	oh.. so make a bet that "usagi will be sentenced by the rota" then
Jan 06 08:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol that should be interesting.
Jan 06 08:48:13 <mircea_popescu>	jurov even so.
Jan 06 08:48:16 <thestrin1puller>	better yet, usagi will decline to be heard
Jan 06 08:48:39 <thestrin1puller>	there should be a mandatory serving
Jan 06 08:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	you can't bet on what a one person will do dawg.
Jan 06 08:50:36 <Diablo-D3>	man, what the fuck was wrong with usagi
Jan 06 08:50:40 <Diablo-D3>	he just stole from everyone
Jan 06 08:51:07 <thestrin1puller>	smickles said he has an executor to pay the shareholders
Jan 06 08:52:02 <mircea_popescu>	i recall reading some drama on that point
Jan 06 08:54:48 <Diablo-D3>	meh, usagi wishes he worked as hard as I do
Jan 06 08:54:51 <thestrin1puller>	so did usagi actually steal?
Jan 06 08:55:04 <Diablo-D3>	thestrin1puller: possibly
Jan 06 08:55:05 <thestrin1puller>	or was he just dumb and lost a bunch of money and is trying to bluff his way out like a bad poker player
Jan 06 08:55:07 <Diablo-D3>	he did a lot of lying
Jan 06 08:55:13 <thestrin1puller>	everyone lies
Jan 06 08:55:15 <Diablo-D3>	its not even poker bluffing
Jan 06 08:55:27 <Diablo-D3>	poker bluffing is digging yourself a hole but meaning well
Jan 06 08:55:37 <Diablo-D3>	what he did was worse
Jan 06 08:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	he was dumb and lost a lot of money, is in denial about it.
Jan 06 08:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's very little money and he has a lot of spare time, so arguing about it with him sort of feels like giving a perv a handjob
Jan 06 08:58:55 <thestrin1puller>	quoted
Jan 06 08:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133147.msg1435649#msg1435649 wtf is wrong with people.
Jan 06 08:59:28 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but how the fuck did he do it
Jan 06 08:59:39 <mircea_popescu>	"o, it's your job to prove that my stock generation rerun is legit"
Jan 06 08:59:44 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, DMC "lost" money because nefario refused to do his job
Jan 06 08:59:55 <thestrin1puller>	and you had a bad model
Jan 06 09:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 nah, it lost money because you were stubborn and acted as if you can push the market.
Jan 06 09:00:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no, I did end up pushing the market
Jan 06 09:00:18 <Diablo-D3>	it collapsed.
Jan 06 09:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 06 09:00:40 <Diablo-D3>	it wasnt quite what I intended, but I imagine I wasnt the only one left holding the bag on that
Jan 06 09:00:52 <Diablo-D3>	I think its partly why nefario ran away
Jan 06 09:01:09 <Andck>	hmmm
Jan 06 09:01:13 <Andck>	what asic provider will be first?
Jan 06 09:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	maybe, he just up and realised one day that he's running an exchange which pretty much has nothing wortyhwhile on it.
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Jan 06 09:01:19 <Diablo-D3>	Andck: asicminer
Jan 06 09:01:27 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: probably
Jan 06 09:01:28 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: they're the only one with actual chips?
Jan 06 09:01:32 <Diablo-D3>	Anduck: yup
Jan 06 09:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck well... bitbet says nobody before april
Jan 06 09:01:34 <Anduck>	i saw pics of them having them
Jan 06 09:01:39 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu .. :D
Jan 06 09:01:47 <Diablo-D3>	friedcat should be shipping mine soon
Jan 06 09:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	course that may be wishful thinking
Jan 06 09:01:57 <Anduck>	i think people are really underestimating the boxing of the chips in the circuit
Jan 06 09:02:00 <Anduck>	and _programming_
Jan 06 09:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 afaik they don't ship anything, they mione
Jan 06 09:02:23 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: asic chips or built circuits?
Jan 06 09:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	"BitInstant extremely poor design, lots of confusion, poor service"
Jan 06 09:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	aghahajha SQUIRM SHREM!!!
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Jan 06 09:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	so is bitmit gone ?
Jan 06 09:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	and speaking of which, who with actual provable fmcg/retail experience wants to partner to make a real bitcoinamazon ?
Jan 06 09:05:00 <thestrin1puller>	you'd need a lot of sellers mp
Jan 06 09:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	no. i just need one single person with good contacts that can get real discounts.
Jan 06 09:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	the rest will follow.
Jan 06 09:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	"An open letter to LTC-GLOBAL members who are downvoting BMF " eh there you go.
Jan 06 09:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	usagi delivers.
Jan 06 09:06:25 <thestrin1puller>	>:( where is mah money
Jan 06 09:07:02 <Diablo-D3>	[09:02:02] <mircea_popescu> Diablo-D3 afaik they don't ship anything, they mione
Jan 06 09:07:13 <Diablo-D3>	they may not have enough to sell in the first generation
Jan 06 09:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	usagi doesn't deliver money, he delivers words.
Jan 06 09:07:18 <Diablo-D3>	but they intend on selling
Jan 06 09:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 when did that happen ?!
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Jan 06 09:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	i thought they mine first. dunno.
Jan 06 09:07:32 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: thats always BEEN the plan
Jan 06 09:07:38 <Diablo-D3>	they are mine first
Jan 06 09:07:47 <Diablo-D3>	it depends entirely on what happens when they turn the units on
Jan 06 09:08:00 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: bitmit is still around
Jan 06 09:08:15 <Diablo-D3>	if enough of them function flawlessly and they hit I think 15TH, then they can begin selling them
Jan 06 09:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134972.0 thestrin1puller
Jan 06 09:08:37 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 did they say this somewhere ?
Jan 06 09:08:45 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yes! its in the goddamned contract
Jan 06 09:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	ugh
Jan 06 09:09:05 <thestrin1puller>	oh it's still down
Jan 06 09:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't even know they had a contract. you mean post ?
Jan 06 09:09:20 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: asicminer's shares have a contract, yes
Jan 06 09:09:20 *	thestrin1puller is now known as thestringpuller
Jan 06 09:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	you mean on glbse ?
Jan 06 09:10:26 <Diablo-D3>	yes, and soon to be on a new exchange as well
Jan 06 09:11:14 <kakobreklaa>	another one?
Jan 06 09:11:33 <kakobreklaa>	srsly, the chan topic does have a char limit
Jan 06 09:12:10 <thestringpuller>	kakobreklaa: congrats on bitbet
Jan 06 09:12:11 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 06 09:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa lolz
Jan 06 09:12:21 <thestringpuller>	don't listen to deez haters
Jan 06 09:12:32 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: another what?
Jan 06 09:12:49 <kakobreklaa>	ty, thestringpuller
Jan 06 09:12:52 <kakobreklaa>	Diablo-D3 exchange
Jan 06 09:13:00 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: will you receive ASIC processors or the actual circuits built around the asic chip??
Jan 06 09:13:05 <Diablo-D3>	its going to be one for friedcat's assets alone, including asicminer
Jan 06 09:13:06 <Anduck>	it's a huge difference
Jan 06 09:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00432328 = 7.3496 BTC [+]
Jan 06 09:13:17 <Diablo-D3>	Anduck: you mean an actual finished product? yes.
Jan 06 09:13:31 <Diablo-D3>	Anduck: the term you're looking for is "mounting a chip on a board"
Jan 06 09:13:41 <Anduck>	yes...
Jan 06 09:13:49 <Anduck>	well, they've got the board ready already, too???
Jan 06 09:13:52 <Anduck>	nice by them
Jan 06 09:14:33 <Diablo-D3>	I havent asked him about the boards, but afaik they were being produced concurrently
Jan 06 09:14:47 <Diablo-D3>	fabbing boards is a lot easier, cheaper, and takes less time than fabbing chips
Jan 06 09:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	ima start selling wide-eye drops.
Jan 06 09:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	Optimism (tm)
Jan 06 09:16:36 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: heh
Jan 06 09:16:50 <Diablo-D3>	Anduck: hopefully, Ill have one in my hands by the end of this month
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Jan 06 09:18:00 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: big miner on campus
Jan 06 09:18:09 <Diablo-D3>	Im only being sent one =P
Jan 06 09:18:17 <Diablo-D3>	the funny part is, just one would replace an entire GPU farm
Jan 06 09:18:41 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: remember to take pics
Jan 06 09:18:49 <PsychoticBoy>	GPU`s are a dying species
Jan 06 09:18:56 <Diablo-D3>	Anduck: nope, Im going to take no pics just to piss people off
Jan 06 09:19:11 <Anduck>	bahh
Jan 06 09:19:14 <Anduck>	whatever
Jan 06 09:19:19 <thestringpuller>	PsychoticBoy: not really I got a gpu for 10 dollars and it will pay itself off pretty soon
Jan 06 09:19:32 <thestringpuller>	I plan to buy a bunch of fpga's for pennies on the dollar
Jan 06 09:20:30 <PsychoticBoy>	in that case yes
Jan 06 09:21:25 <thestringpuller>	I'm going to steal Diablo-D3's idea and use reusable power
Jan 06 09:21:30 <thestringpuller>	mwahahahaha
Jan 06 09:21:42 <Diablo-D3>	you cant really steal the idea.
Jan 06 09:21:48 <Diablo-D3>	I made the idea public for a reason.
Jan 06 09:22:14 <thestringpuller>	your master plaaan
Jan 06 09:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00065894 = 3.5583 BTC [-]
Jan 06 09:22:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00065384 = 5.623 BTC [-]
Jan 06 09:22:34 <Diablo-D3>	I may end up just being hired by someone to make it happen
Jan 06 09:23:26 <thestringpuller>	Like mircea_popescu
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Jan 06 09:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1279 @ 0.00432328 = 5.5295 BTC [+]
Jan 06 09:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00435363 = 8.4896 BTC [+]
Jan 06 09:31:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00435685 = 5.2282 BTC [+]
Jan 06 09:31:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00435721 BTC [+]
Jan 06 09:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 223 @ 0.00436871 = 0.9742 BTC [+]
Jan 06 09:36:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 170 @ 0.00436871 = 0.7427 BTC [+]
Jan 06 09:36:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.0043755 = 10.0637 BTC [+]
Jan 06 09:37:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 48 @ 0.00439255 = 0.2108 BTC [+]
Jan 06 09:37:21 <Anduck>	i like that.
Jan 06 09:37:58 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: reusable power - you think you're patenting _that_???
Jan 06 09:38:03 <Anduck>	what is wrong with you americans
Jan 06 09:39:45 <mircea_popescu>	he ain't patenting anything, he's just shootin da breez
Jan 06 09:45:40 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu you should patent mpex
Jan 06 09:45:54 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 06 09:46:56 <thestringpuller>	then you can sue your competitors
Jan 06 09:55:59 <Bugpowder>	YESS
Jan 06 09:56:04 <Bugpowder>	fixed my pympex
Jan 06 09:56:08 <Bugpowder>	watch out world
Jan 06 09:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	wd.
Jan 06 10:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2484 @ 0.00065992 = 1.6392 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4304 @ 0.00065993 = 2.8403 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:09:36 <Bugpowder>	Soooo, BitVPS, 1.5BTC dividend??
Jan 06 10:11:53 <JWU42>	hmm
Jan 06 10:12:07 <JWU42>	I need to figure WTF is going on with BIB.BVPS
Jan 06 10:12:42 <Bugpowder>	I dumped that shit
Jan 06 10:12:50 <Bugpowder>	last month
Jan 06 10:13:00 <Bugpowder>	seemed like driver was alseep at the switch
Jan 06 10:13:08 <JWU42>	it traded on GLBSE
Jan 06 10:13:17 <JWU42>	so not sure how you dumped it last month
Jan 06 10:13:19 <Bugpowder>	ah
Jan 06 10:13:23 <Bugpowder>	S.BVPS
Jan 06 10:13:23 <JWU42>	;)
Jan 06 10:13:25 <JWU42>	heh
Jan 06 10:13:27 <JWU42>	got it
Jan 06 10:13:51 <Bugpowder>	serious though, what happened to the div?
Jan 06 10:13:57 <Bugpowder>	did revenue drop?
Jan 06 10:14:23 <Bugpowder>	95%
Jan 06 10:14:45 <JWU42>	rg is MIA ?
Jan 06 10:14:58 <JWU42>	;;seen rg
Jan 06 10:14:58 <gribble>	rg was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, 36 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <rg> good times
Jan 06 10:15:15 <JWU42>	not encouraging
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Jan 06 10:15:40 <Anduck>	well
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Jan 06 10:15:53 <Anduck>	JWU42: whats wrong with him being away?
Jan 06 10:16:12 <JWU42>	I said "not encouraging"
Jan 06 10:16:18 <Anduck>	hmmm
Jan 06 10:16:25 <Anduck>	didnt he say he's quite busy with his new job
Jan 06 10:16:28 <JWU42>	as in him not being here (as he used to be)
Jan 06 10:16:31 <JWU42>	ahh
Jan 06 10:16:33 <JWU42>	ok
Jan 06 10:16:46 <JWU42>	maybe him being absent means more time "working"
Jan 06 10:16:49 <JWU42>	;)
Jan 06 10:17:03 <Anduck>	ye
Jan 06 10:17:39 <Bugpowder>	i though rg isn't in charge anymore
Jan 06 10:17:47 <Bugpowder>	Namijes
Jan 06 10:17:51 <Bugpowder>	and some people
Jan 06 10:18:10 <JWU42>	u may be right
Jan 06 10:18:54 <kakobreklaa>	i need someone in the usa to send sms for me
Jan 06 10:19:19 <Anduck>	arij, namjies, atleast
Jan 06 10:19:23 <Anduck>	there was someone else, too
Jan 06 10:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1152 @ 0.00439255 = 5.0602 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:19:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1518 @ 0.00440251 = 6.683 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00443223 = 8.8645 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00444827 = 5.7828 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2909 @ 0.00445982 = 12.9736 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:19:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2448 @ 0.00449166 = 10.9956 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:19:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5845 @ 0.00449357 = 26.2649 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:19:52 <Bugpowder>	what you need?
Jan 06 10:20:08 <kakobreklaa>	see pm
Jan 06 10:20:12 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 06 10:20:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00443282 / 0.00456817 (128348 shares, 568.94 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333114 / 0.0048 (13819049 shares, 46,033.20 BTC)
Jan 06 10:21:03 <Bugpowder>	;;ident kakobreklaa
Jan 06 10:21:04 <gribble>	Nick 'kakobreklaa', with hostmask 'kakobreklaa!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net', is not identified.
Jan 06 10:21:11 *	kakobreklaa is now known as kakobrekla
Jan 06 10:21:35 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla
Jan 06 10:21:41 <kakobrekla>	;;ident kakobreklaa
Jan 06 10:21:42 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Jan 06 10:21:46 <kakobrekla>	;;ident kakobrekla
Jan 06 10:21:46 <gribble>	Nick 'kakobrekla', with hostmask 'kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net', is identified as user kakobrekla, with GPG key id 27AF75321F2489E8, key fingerprint 27C3CE9A20851312F086268C27AF75321F2489E8, and bitcoin address None
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Jan 06 10:24:07 <kakobrekla>	;;rate Bugpowder 1 a wonderful sms provider
Jan 06 10:24:08 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Bugpowder has been recorded.
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Jan 06 10:25:10 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 06 10:25:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00443295 / 0.00456817 (127185 shares, 563.81 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333114 / 0.0048 (13819049 shares, 46,033.20 BTC)
Jan 06 10:26:26 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 06 10:26:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45461, Best ask: 13.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.04339, Last trade: 13.45461, 24 hour volume: 18155.80396150, 24 hour low: 13.31500, 24 hour high: 13.52999, 24 hour vwap: 13.44816
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Jan 06 10:59:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 546 @ 0.00065993 = 0.3603 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:59:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14554 @ 0.00065999 = 9.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 06 10:59:37 <thestringpuller>	trailer park boys
Jan 06 11:10:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00065384 = 0.6211 BTC [-]
Jan 06 11:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14464 @ 0.00065325 = 9.4486 BTC [-]
Jan 06 11:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2836 @ 0.00064202 = 1.8208 BTC [-]
Jan 06 11:11:59 <mod6>	thestringpuller: Bubbles is my hero.
Jan 06 11:13:50 <kakobrekla>	http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5016580
Jan 06 11:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 06 11:15:10 <gribble>	13.41
Jan 06 11:22:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 964 @ 0.00064202 = 0.6189 BTC [-]
Jan 06 11:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6180 @ 0.0006417 = 3.9657 BTC [-]
Jan 06 11:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2392 @ 0.00064058 = 1.5323 BTC [-]
Jan 06 11:32:50 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 06 11:32:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.49991, Best ask: 13.49998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00007, Last trade: 13.49998, 24 hour volume: 17547.94335078, 24 hour low: 13.32066, 24 hour high: 13.52999, 24 hour vwap: 13.45388
Jan 06 11:33:00 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 06 11:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00442786 / 0.00456817 (114320 shares, 506.19 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333114 / 0.0048 (13819049 shares, 46,033.20 BTC)
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Jan 06 11:49:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1755 @ 0.00449357 = 7.8862 BTC [+]
Jan 06 11:50:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2065 @ 0.0045 = 9.2925 BTC [+]
Jan 06 11:52:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7109 @ 0.00064058 = 4.5539 BTC [-]
Jan 06 11:52:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7791 @ 0.00063975 = 4.9843 BTC [-]
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Jan 06 12:06:47 <thestringpuller>	mod6: hey mang
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Jan 06 12:07:23 <thestringpuller>	how come no one gets mad at Bugpowder for using the channel as a realtime ticker :P
Jan 06 12:10:55 <Bugpowder>	Thanks what its there for!
Jan 06 12:14:22 <thestringpuller>	:P
Jan 06 12:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-r-us/
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Jan 06 12:44:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 446 @ 0.00065999 = 0.2944 BTC [+]
Jan 06 12:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12854 @ 0.00066 = 8.4836 BTC [+]
Jan 06 12:49:35 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i want in on the BTCZon
Jan 06 12:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	http://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=5016890&whence=%69%74%65%6d%3f%69%64%3d%35%30%31%36%35%38%30
Jan 06 12:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck is with this idiot ?
Jan 06 12:50:11 <thestringpuller>	provide a better link
Jan 06 12:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	jesus, i am sick and tired of the internet opening up a global venue for each single imbecile who'd normally be locked away somewherhe among four walls.
Jan 06 12:50:16 <thestringpuller>	that doesn't make me have to log in
Jan 06 12:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	i can't, graham doesn't grok interweb urls.
Jan 06 12:50:29 <mircea_popescu>	This betting site has a really stupid betting system. It appears that the amount of money you receive isn't based on a pricing of the bet, as is done on all real prediction markets, but based on a simple payout of all the bets received on the other side of the bet by the end of the bet date. This system has two practical consequences: 1. You can't determine the markets current probability estimates from the current sta
Jan 06 12:50:29 <mircea_popescu>	te of the market, as you can with priced markets. 2. You should never bet until the last second so you can know the odds for the bet. In fact, it would make sense to create a sniping bot that would programmatically calculate the odds, compare them to your probability estimate, and only make the bet if it is favorable. There is another site called Bets of Bitcoin (http://betsofbitco.in/) that has similarly dumb rules.
Jan 06 12:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	apparently, mutual betting is dumb. so sayz anonymousdicwad on unheardofsite
Jan 06 12:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	thus therefore!
Jan 06 12:51:09 <mircea_popescu>	"I have to agree, I was trying to work out how the odds are calculated and it makes no sense. Why not copy what Betfair or Intrade or something like that do."
Jan 06 12:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	heck, copying what betfair does got him all the way through highschool in rome wisconsin
Jan 06 12:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	and he's about to graduate the local agricaltural college too!
Jan 06 12:51:34 <thestringpuller>	you're in flames about this one
Jan 06 12:51:38 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 06 12:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	i've made the mistake of reading the stuff raw
Jan 06 12:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	normally i have people digesting it for me.
Jan 06 12:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	i guess i leave a sheltered interlife ;/
Jan 06 12:53:05 <thestringpuller>	you're from romania...that's like telling the street urchin who turned into a prince he doesn't know "street life"
Jan 06 12:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Jan 06 12:54:52 <thestringpuller>	didn't you live through a bloody revolution?
Jan 06 12:54:58 <thestringpuller>	how can you be sheltered?
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Jan 06 12:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 06 12:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	apparently you caN
Jan 06 13:08:48 <thestringpuller>	BTCZON lol
Jan 06 13:15:23 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Jan 06 13:15:24 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 215438 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 273 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 18 hours, 41 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3235311.85244907 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.58075223192
Jan 06 13:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 387 @ 0.00452292 = 1.7504 BTC [+]
Jan 06 13:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00455337 = 12.7494 BTC [+]
Jan 06 13:22:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 327 @ 0.00456817 = 1.4938 BTC [+]
Jan 06 13:22:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2210 @ 0.00457248 = 10.1052 BTC [+]
Jan 06 13:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 952 @ 0.00458276 = 4.3628 BTC [+]
Jan 06 13:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3698 @ 0.00458276 = 16.947 BTC [+]
Jan 06 13:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1302 @ 0.00458861 = 5.9744 BTC [+]
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Jan 06 13:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1448 @ 0.00458861 = 6.6443 BTC [+]
Jan 06 13:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 302 @ 0.00459989 = 1.3892 BTC [+]
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Jan 06 14:02:40 <dub>	http://bitcoingamblin.com/
Jan 06 14:02:47 <dub>	competition heating up
Jan 06 14:03:18 <kakobrekla>	o, comic sans, aint that cute
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Jan 06 14:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Jan 06 14:04:43 <kakobrekla>	and a dancing baby
Jan 06 14:04:53 <kakobrekla>	havent seen that one in years now
Jan 06 14:04:55 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 06 14:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	ya lol
Jan 06 14:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoingamblin.com/bitcoin.gif
Jan 06 14:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	pretty good shit
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Jan 06 14:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	MADE IN THE AMERICA. CODED BBY MY BROTHER. lol
Jan 06 14:14:42 <smickles>	themerica
Jan 06 14:14:48 <smickles>	:D
Jan 06 14:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-rogue-state-saga-continues/
Jan 06 14:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	here's a little bit of a breaking news item.
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Jan 06 14:27:57 <jurov>	 bitcoingamblin.com, cute... anyone noticed pirate hat?
Jan 06 14:29:05 <mircea_popescu>	ya lol
Jan 06 14:31:45 <smickles>	19:18 < mircea_popescu> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-rogue-state-saga-continues/ <<< we're boned
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Jan 06 14:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
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Jan 06 14:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2298 @ 0.00449327 = 10.3255 BTC [-]
Jan 06 14:37:07 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/12uArTbz4JnEZZq5Yk5y7GvXPu6tdHTDaf
Jan 06 14:37:15 <Bugpowder>	Public Note: The ghost of Satoshi will rip off your head and crap in your throat.
Jan 06 14:37:49 <Bugpowder>	Grumpy cat is doing much better
Jan 06 14:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/i-would-like-to-address-that-question-at-this-time/ << if anyone actually has a ycombinator acct dump that there.
Jan 06 14:42:50 <smickles>	Bugpowder: does blockchain display (what are they called) coinbase messages now?
Jan 06 14:44:55 <Bugpowder>	I have a friend that is finally ready to buy some coins $5k worth.  What's the best way right now?  I used Tangible Cryptography in the past, and was great.  Not sure if he will accept new clients right now though.
Jan 06 14:45:12 <Bugpowder>	smickles, I dunno.. there are some messages there.
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Jan 06 15:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7586 @ 0.00066 = 5.0068 BTC [+]
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Jan 06 15:09:05 <thestringpuller>	smickles:
Jan 06 15:09:27 <thestringpuller>	i may need to liquidate some assets lemme know if you'll be around tonight
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Jan 06 15:12:47 <smickles>	thestringpuller: what time?
Jan 06 15:13:00 <smickles>	I can certainly make an appointment
Jan 06 15:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00444605 = 7.336 BTC [-]
Jan 06 15:20:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3350 @ 0.00445237 = 14.9154 BTC [+]
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Jan 06 15:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 573 @ 0.00445237 = 2.5512 BTC [+]
Jan 06 15:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1344 @ 0.00459989 = 6.1823 BTC [+]
Jan 06 15:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00462446 = 2.5435 BTC [+]
Jan 06 15:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00463124 = 4.8628 BTC [+]
Jan 06 15:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2056 @ 0.00463274 = 9.5249 BTC [+]
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Jan 06 15:50:54 <FabianB_>	;;seen jurov
Jan 06 15:50:55 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 22 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <jurov>  bitcoingamblin.com, cute... anyone noticed pirate hat?
Jan 06 15:51:11 <jurov>	here
Jan 06 15:51:43 <FabianB_>	jurov: just made a deposit, sent further to mpex?
Jan 06 15:54:34 <FabianB_>	oh, i guess has no confirmation yet :(
Jan 06 15:54:54 <jurov>	FabianB_,done. i trust you won't doublespend me ;)
Jan 06 15:55:22 <FabianB_>	jurov: thx
Jan 06 15:55:26 <jurov>	;;view 12732
Jan 06 15:55:27 <gribble>	#12732 Sat Jan  5 16:43:31 2013 jurov SELL 1.0 BTC @ 1 MPExBTC (Fast MPEx funding. Fixed fee 0.1BTC)
Jan 06 15:55:41 <jurov>	coinbr clients free ofc
Jan 06 15:56:07 <FabianB_>	:)
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Jan 06 16:15:32 <jurov>	here comes the amir's bitcoin conference: http://unsystem.net/
Jan 06 16:20:34 <jurov>	wonder why bitcoin fundation is not doing anything like that, leaving genjix on rampage
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Jan 06 16:35:41 <dub>	presumably the plan is to delay acceptance until the client/protocol is ready
Jan 06 16:36:58 <dub>	letting fucktards and assgoblins run PR has been deemed the best way to keep us clear of the mainstream
Jan 06 16:38:00 <dub>	I like the pick of amir on that page though, looks like he's trying to make a facepalm but can't even manage that
Jan 06 16:38:17 <dub>	pic*
Jan 06 16:39:15 <dub>	THIS IS THE SIDE OF MY HEAD, THERE ARE MANY HEADSIDES LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE
Jan 06 16:40:09 <kakobrekla>	wait wait
Jan 06 16:40:10 <kakobrekla>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taaki
Jan 06 16:40:16 <kakobrekla>	he is a sw developer
Jan 06 16:40:26 <kakobrekla>	and bitcoins are generated by math.
Jan 06 16:40:36 <dub>	s/math/maff
Jan 06 16:40:48 <Bugpowder>	"Taaki is a speaker of Esperanto, which he promotes as an auxiliary country-neutral international language to preserve local languages. "
Jan 06 16:41:14 <Bugpowder>	If I wanted to claim to be a speaker of a language, I would pick one which nobody else would be able to confirm that I can or cannot speak
Jan 06 16:41:56 <Diablo-D3>	I find what you said ironic
Jan 06 16:42:04 <Diablo-D3>	esperanto is the most widespread artifical language
Jan 06 16:42:14 <Bugpowder>	do you speak it?
Jan 06 16:42:19 <JWU42>	maff is hard
Jan 06 16:42:32 <Bugpowder>	do you know anyone that speaks it?
Jan 06 16:42:40 <kakobrekla>	hm, that bitcointalk thread should be in teh wiki ;>
Jan 06 16:48:21 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: didn't u want to spring scrub K.KBRL?
Jan 06 16:54:09 <dub>	http://interviews.slashdot.org/story/11/06/22/1737237/Amir-Taaki-Answers-Your-Questions-About-Bitcoin this is lulzy
Jan 06 16:54:22 <jurov>	FabianB_, that's successor of B.BITB
Jan 06 16:54:59 <dub>	My team is already in contact with SWIFT which has operated for 30 years and is the backbone of international money transfer for over 9000 banks.
Jan 06 16:55:16 <dub>	The sooner they are regulated, the sooner users can have legal assurances that merchants are liable for their operations. The negligence seen at MTGox would never have happened in a regulated market.
Jan 06 16:55:43 <FabianB_>	jurov: heh, ic
Jan 06 16:55:49 <jurov>	dub, genjix said *that*???
Jan 06 16:55:55 <dub>	yes
Jan 06 16:56:24 <dub>	but also, anon is legion etc
Jan 06 16:56:58 <dub>	im thinking multiple personalitly disorder
Jan 06 16:57:30 <jurov>	we should hatch a plan to troll that conference. in full force at least from romania, slovakia and slovenia :)
Jan 06 16:57:41 <Bugpowder>	probably stimulant abuse
Jan 06 16:58:03 <dub>	Bugpowder: yeah that face has meth written all over it
Jan 06 16:58:56 <jurov>	maybe even evoorhees caould be persuaded to take part
Jan 06 16:59:32 <kakobrekla>	ok
Jan 06 16:59:47 <kakobrekla>	community will pay for the trave and accomodation costs
Jan 06 16:59:50 <kakobrekla>	we troll.
Jan 06 17:00:35 <dub>	The point to Bitcoin is that you can choose your own level of trust in an external service. One of our group's members, Patrick Strateman, came up with a scheme whereby a wallet could be recovered algorithmically using an email and a password.
Jan 06 17:00:46 <dub>	so much funny right there
Jan 06 17:01:57 <dub>	turns out patricks mail server let someone 'recover' all of bitcoinicas wallet
Jan 06 17:07:02 <dub>	I went to fill in the Paypal form, spent 10 mins signing up to an account, entering all my very personal details and my card was rejected.
Jan 06 17:10:13 <FabianB_>	paypal for a bitcoin conference?
Jan 06 17:13:10 <jurov>	my god they collected such a luminaries: https://progressbar.sk/calendar/international-bitcoin-day-2013
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Jan 06 17:14:16 <Namworld>	dub, you can't pay with your library card.
Jan 06 17:14:20 <jurov>	indeed i'll collect funds for mpoe-pr to travel there
Jan 06 17:15:07 <Bugpowder>	yes
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Jan 06 17:16:40 <dub>	amir is possibly adopting this guys approach to education https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRwIrbK8KDI
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Jan 06 18:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00460243 = 9.435 BTC [-]
Jan 06 19:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1482 @ 0.00455449 = 6.7498 BTC [-]
Jan 06 19:09:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063976 = 3.1988 BTC [-]
Jan 06 19:09:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7909 @ 0.00063975 = 5.0598 BTC [-]
Jan 06 19:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6153 @ 0.00063899 = 3.9317 BTC [-]
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Jan 06 19:18:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1468 @ 0.00446855 = 6.5598 BTC [-]
Jan 06 19:21:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00444 = 4.44 BTC [-]
Jan 06 19:27:05 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 06 19:27:06 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 14 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <smickles> I can certainly make an appointment
Jan 06 19:27:12 <thestringpuller>	smickles
Jan 06 19:27:18 <thestringpuller>	I's sorry I fell asleep
Jan 06 19:30:21 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mod6
Jan 06 19:30:22 <gribble>	mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 18 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <mod6> thestringpuller: Bubbles is my hero.
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Jan 06 19:43:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00444 = 8.214 BTC [-]
Jan 06 19:51:38 <pigeons>	yes vragnaroda speaks perfect esperanto
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Jan 06 20:06:38 <dub>	does he eat beans?
Jan 06 20:10:27 <dub>	sounds more like a vindaloo man
Jan 06 20:12:29 <pigeons>	well beans are good for your heart
Jan 06 20:17:10 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yo
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Jan 06 20:27:15 <thestringpuller>	pigeons: so are you an expert on pigeons?
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Jan 06 20:32:11 <pigeons>	thestringpuller: nope
Jan 06 20:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00444878 = 10.6771 BTC [+]
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Jan 06 20:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ prolly eventually lol
Jan 06 20:42:52 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla
Jan 06 20:44:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00462278 = 4.8539 BTC [+]
Jan 06 20:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 522 @ 0.00462375 = 2.4136 BTC [+]
Jan 06 20:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	the idea that esperanto helps local languages is pretty good. nothing like something that really sucks as a standard to keep internationalisation at bay.
Jan 06 20:46:40 <mircea_popescu>	dub wtf ?! the negligence seen at mtgox happens every month with irl banks.
Jan 06 20:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	the diff is mtgox fixed it.
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Jan 06 20:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	also, who is Cody R Wilson ?
Jan 06 20:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	Mike Gogulski (Bitcoin laundry) ? wtf is that! i need to knoe
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Jan 06 20:52:08 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 06 20:52:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00446669 / 0.00463274 (82268 shares, 367.47 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333481 / 0.0048 (13847718 shares, 46,179.57 BTC)
Jan 06 20:56:17 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: gogulski is from nostate.com
Jan 06 20:56:27 <pigeons>	he used to be in irc all the time but a few years ago
Jan 06 20:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	i like these unheard of sites, i learn so very much
Jan 06 20:56:33 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is nostate.com
Jan 06 20:56:45 <pigeons>	i think it was the mybitcoin nonsense when he started saying pfffh
Jan 06 20:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	Fixing the “100% CPU and no useful output” imklog+rsyslog kernel logging problem on Ubuntu guests under Xen PV
Jan 06 20:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	ok, so a tech guy ?
Jan 06 20:57:27 <pigeons>	he bought a mixer and the motto was "get your bitcoins whiter than white"
Jan 06 20:57:33 <mircea_popescu>	root@nyancat:/var/log# tail /var/log/kern.log
Jan 06 20:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	wait a fucking second. nyancat ?
Jan 06 20:58:02 <pigeons>	nothing to do with usagi ;)
Jan 06 20:59:01 <pigeons>	he used to maintain a bitcoin wordpress shopping cart plugin
Jan 06 20:59:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00462375 = 5.7797 BTC [+]
Jan 06 20:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Jan 06 21:00:30 <pigeons>	he's mostly known for renouncing us citizenship for a "not a citizen under the blessing of slovakia" card
Jan 06 21:02:20 <dub>	mircea_popescu: the shitheads responsible for bitcoinica calling mtgox negligent is funny enough by itself
Jan 06 21:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	it is.
Jan 06 21:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, they were, yes, but not much moreso than your average bank. whereas the average bank still is, 10-15 years later
Jan 06 21:03:13 <mircea_popescu>	and after 100`000x as many ownages, exploits and general mayhem
Jan 06 21:03:14 <pigeons>	gotta give em that at least
Jan 06 21:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons slovakia does that ? cool.
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Jan 06 21:05:11 <dub>	is cody the gun printing guy?
Jan 06 21:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno. is he ?
Jan 06 21:05:37 <dub>	i closed tab and cannot be fucked finding link
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Jan 06 21:06:01 <dub>	the gun printing guy was listed as a speaker iirc
Jan 06 21:06:35 <pigeons>	he is "wiki weapon" guy, which is in some ways quite behind the other gun printing projects
Jan 06 21:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... a guy that's been out of the game since about before it started, taaki and a gun printing guy.
Jan 06 21:06:51 <mircea_popescu>	they need plato i guess.
Jan 06 21:07:01 <mircea_popescu>	or wait, what's the guy who had a show where he used cameras in demo mode ?
Jan 06 21:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	cause the new bitcoin ragazine dood is there.
Jan 06 21:07:21 <dub>	that was bruce I think
Jan 06 21:07:32 <dub>	the bitciontv slash child rapist dude
Jan 06 21:08:29 <dub>	spent the last few weeks erasing my memory
Jan 06 21:08:49 <dub>	could be wrong
Jan 06 21:09:27 <pigeons>	oh course who they need is nefario
Jan 06 21:09:56 <Bugpowder>	People that make the most rediculous claims will get the most press, every time
Jan 06 21:10:00 <Bugpowder>	happens in every field
Jan 06 21:10:13 <Bugpowder>	for a while at least
Jan 06 21:10:43 <pigeons>	dreamhost has pictures of their big tubes in their ad
Jan 06 21:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i don't see them getting any press tbh
Jan 06 21:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	i see them struggling in a flypaper venue with bad make-up on
Jan 06 21:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	for my curiosity, anyone here actually use coinbase ?
Jan 06 21:13:32 <pigeons>	no
Jan 06 21:13:48 <pigeons>	there was discussion on it in -otc the other day, i didnt see any use for it at all
Jan 06 21:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	cause yeah, i wanted to ask iof they actually have a value proposition that i've overlooked
Jan 06 21:14:14 <pigeons>	but a few said they just loved being able to send ach from their bank to a bootstrap site and get bitcoins at mygox + 1%
Jan 06 21:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	as i understand it it's about two years late.
Jan 06 21:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/lets-have-fun-with-paul-graham/#comment-91256 sadly the guy offers no hint.
Jan 06 21:16:23 <pigeons>	well it seems worse than piuk's even cause i think they are just straight mybitcoin 2.0 no we dont hold your keys tricks
Jan 06 21:16:44 <mircea_popescu>	for one.
Jan 06 21:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	for the other, at least in blockchain's case i have some feel of who's behind
Jan 06 21:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	coinbase, who's that ?
Jan 06 21:17:25 <pigeons>	what turned me off before i even looked at the site and saw "hosted bitcoin wallet" was the spammy .1 btc refferal scheme
Jan 06 21:18:17 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not sure i'd hold something like that against a new service. maybe.
Jan 06 21:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	how did the scheme work ?
Jan 06 21:20:09 <Bugpowder>	Wow, just finding this classic thread
Jan 06 21:20:11 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39922.40
Jan 06 21:20:23 <pigeons>	a bunch of newbs contantly beg you to open a new coinbase account and get free btc if you hook up you bank account
Jan 06 21:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	I requested a withdrawal of 0.1 BTC from my account.
Jan 06 21:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	My BTCJAM account was debited 0.0955 BTC
Jan 06 21:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	On my address I received 0.095 BTC
Jan 06 21:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	dbl fee!
Jan 06 21:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you ever withdrew from btcjam ?
Jan 06 21:21:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder that shit was so weird back in like 2011
Jan 06 21:21:39 <pigeons>	yep
Jan 06 21:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons so does it work as it's supposed and this stuff i keep reading is basically noobish nonsense ?
Jan 06 21:22:07 <pigeons>	btcjam?
Jan 06 21:22:25 <pigeons>	its like formalized forum begging/scamming
Jan 06 21:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Jan 06 21:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	so malaysian
Jan 06 21:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg1438731#msg1438731 hey what do you know, turns out the guy with the rounding was actually a blockchain user lol
Jan 06 21:24:03 <dub>	Bugpowder: now find MNW's 'totally legit pictures of underage girls in swimsuits'
Jan 06 21:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	"Truly, I'm puzzled by Joel's defense of Mr. Starfish, especially after Patrick's default and disappearance. I can think of few scammers in this cesspool who are more blatant and deserve less sympathy than Patrick."
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Jan 06 21:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	i wish i understood wtf fly bit katz on that one.
Jan 06 21:24:22 <pigeons>	http://blog.coinbase.com/post/33197656699/coinbase-now-storing-87-of-customer-funds-offline
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Jan 06 21:24:31 <dub>	Bugpowder: oh and who could forget amir's 'skype phonesex with two 16 y/o'
Jan 06 21:24:51 <pigeons>	cuz its legal in the uk
Jan 06 21:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	dub transcript ?
Jan 06 21:25:27 <mircea_popescu>	(are there any hms ?)
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Jan 06 21:25:41 <dub>	a few people posted that they'd used it
Jan 06 21:25:49 <mircea_popescu>	"Offline storage (sometimes called “cold storage”) is the process of taking money that is connected to the internet and moving it offline for safe keeping."
Jan 06 21:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is such a good definition.
Jan 06 21:26:06 <pigeons>	much safer on plastic housed usb sticks
Jan 06 21:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	shows a deep, fundamental understanding of the truck/pipes issue.
Jan 06 21:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	Why do this?  Well, any computer that is connected to the internet with money on it (or bitcoins) is a target for hackers.  Keeping servers secure involves many variables and is it’s own area of study and research.  Under normal conditions this level of security should be sufficient, but payment apps are held to a higher standard.
Jan 06 21:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	high comedy. you can always trust pigeon's link. they don't contain porn in the sense of tit and cunt.
Jan 06 21:27:06 <pigeons>	heh
Jan 06 21:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	they contain porn of a more intellectual and much more obscene nature.
Jan 06 21:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	or should i say unnature.
Jan 06 21:27:25 <dub>	I will do ANYTHING to make bitcoin better for the good of humanity!! Oh and I'm going to pimp some quesitonably legal sexual exploitation to make a fast buck
Jan 06 21:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	dub http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbljnoTsTN1qznqfn.jpg ?
Jan 06 21:27:55 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: high comedy?
Jan 06 21:27:57 <dub>	im not hitting that from work
Jan 06 21:28:01 <mircea_popescu>	do.
Jan 06 21:28:25 <thestringpuller>	no nudity
Jan 06 21:28:36 <Bugpowder>	dub lol
Jan 06 21:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	it's off the coinbase blog at any rate.
Jan 06 21:28:41 <Bugpowder>	you can hit it
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Jan 06 21:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	tho it does meet the questionable legal explotaition part. maybe no fast bux
Jan 06 21:28:59 <Bugpowder>	I really love that photo thread though
Jan 06 21:29:08 <Bugpowder>	It's actually kinda useful
Jan 06 21:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	got a thing for floating azns ?
Jan 06 21:29:11 <Bugpowder>	stuff to know
Jan 06 21:29:18 <thestringpuller>	"2011 will no doubt be remembered as the year that Bitcoinica took Bitcoin by storm. With leveraged trading, playing the Bitcoin markets went from tee-ball to the big leagues, seemingly overnight. 2012, however, will take things to a whole new level. Mt.Gox and Tradehill have both hinted at the fact that they will be unveiling futures and options markets as part of their development plan, with Mt.Gox possibly br
Jan 06 21:29:37 <thestringpuller>	lol this blog
Jan 06 21:29:43 <Bugpowder>	hinted at the fact
Jan 06 21:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Jan 06 21:30:11 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, options were this big thing, imminent in like, July 2011.
Jan 06 21:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135071.msg1438315#msg1438315 what nao JWU42 ?
Jan 06 21:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	o wait nm missed his reply.
Jan 06 21:31:30 <JWU42>	my good freind usagi had to comment ;)
Jan 06 21:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 06 21:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	so basically, you're piling up your share and plan to distribute it when ?
Jan 06 21:32:28 <JWU42>	ideally later this week if it stays private
Jan 06 21:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	if what stays private you mean ?
Jan 06 21:33:05 <JWU42>	it is not relisted on a new exchange and payments are made directly to the holders
Jan 06 21:33:35 <JWU42>	it might take longer to begin payouts if it is listed on a new exhcnage as then holders would need to create accounts, etc.
Jan 06 21:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	o o i see.
Jan 06 21:33:51 <Bugpowder>	"SO I believe a remedy is available to JWU. It's simple -- something akin to... give up his current stake in YABMC. I.e. ~500 BTC."
Jan 06 21:33:58 <JWU42>	and the whole "unregulated securities" concerns of listing again
Jan 06 21:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	probably cleanest to just disburse. i don't see why any sane exchange would want a wreck listed to beghin with
Jan 06 21:34:26 <JWU42>	Bugpowder: yeah - I have the BTC ready to go and plan to
Jan 06 21:34:50 <JWU42>	as of Friday was around 48 BTC
Jan 06 21:34:54 <JWU42>	482
Jan 06 21:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	how much did you get burned for, all told ?
Jan 06 21:35:12 <Bugpowder>	I don't trust usagi's valuation models.
Jan 06 21:35:43 <JWU42>	I didn't get burned per se
Jan 06 21:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	just intangibles ? (goodwill etc)
Jan 06 21:36:01 <JWU42>	I suppose it is the bondholders are are getting less than they deserve
Jan 06 21:36:09 <Namworld>	Anyone heard anything from/about Amazingrando by the way?
Jan 06 21:36:18 <JWU42>	since the payout would be ~ 60% of what it should have been
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Jan 06 21:36:30 <JWU42>	Namworld: he just posted in his thread
Jan 06 21:36:44 <JWU42>	mircea_popescu: yeah - some damaged goodwill perhaps
Jan 06 21:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	well... that's ahead of the game. i guess if you survive you might end up a banker or something.
Jan 06 21:37:11 <dub>	are not HK and PH already tagged?
Jan 06 21:37:18 <JWU42>	dub: they are
Jan 06 21:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 06 21:37:42 <Namworld>	Damn. He's not answering my PMs
Jan 06 21:37:53 <JWU42>	I suppose conspiro... was not aware when he first posted
Jan 06 21:38:05 <JWU42>	cannot remember his full handle ;)
Jan 06 21:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	sphere
Jan 06 21:38:13 <JWU42>	.tk
Jan 06 21:38:16 <JWU42>	;)
Jan 06 21:39:00 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating PatrickHarnett
Jan 06 21:39:00 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User PatrickHarnett, rated since Tue Mar  6 14:02:32 2012. Cumulative rating 67, from 27 total ratings. Received ratings: 23 positive, 4 negative. Sent ratings: 22 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=PatrickHarnett
Jan 06 21:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 06 21:39:33 <JWU42>	it even took a while for Pirate to get to a negative rating
Jan 06 21:39:51 <JWU42>	people don't look at that often and tend to rate only when transacting
Jan 06 21:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133144.msg1438861#msg1438861 this thread kicks ass
Jan 06 21:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	usagi's asset list
Jan 06 21:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	OBSI.HRPT (10,089 shares)
Jan 06 21:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	that's almost as much as i was short
Jan 06 21:40:54 <Bugpowder>	Matthew N. Wright debt (750 bitcoins) Hashking Debt (550 btc) Imsaguy debt (approx. 300 BTC)
Jan 06 21:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	ya lol
Jan 06 21:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	i was about to paste that.
Jan 06 21:41:15 <Namworld>	I forgot to rate PH...
Jan 06 21:41:17 <Namworld>	Done
Jan 06 21:41:24 <pigeons>	quality junk there
Jan 06 21:41:26 <Bugpowder>	GSDPT (6,000 shares (remaining)
Jan 06 21:41:34 <Bugpowder>	if only...
Jan 06 21:41:50 <Namworld>	I rated Pirate like an eternity after he defaulted... and was his first negative rating.
Jan 06 21:42:03 <JWU42>	ahh - he has 30 shares of YABMC
Jan 06 21:42:20 <pigeons>	"PPT debt (everything from goat to brendio direct -- if you really want this just PM me)"
Jan 06 21:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	ya 6k gsdpt is worth a little, iirc they were even with s.dice ?
Jan 06 21:42:38 <JWU42>	damn
Jan 06 21:42:39 <pigeons>	hahah mnw
Jan 06 21:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i doubt you were.
Jan 06 21:42:43 <JWU42>	33K of BIB.BVPS
Jan 06 21:43:04 <pigeons>	so 1 million btc worth of worthlessness = 0 btc
Jan 06 21:43:16 <Namworld>	;;getrating pirateat40
Jan 06 21:43:17 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User pirateat40, rated since Mon Aug  1 14:18:45 2011. Cumulative rating -119, from 89 total ratings. Received ratings: 56 positive, 33 negative. Sent ratings: 65 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40
Jan 06 21:43:18 <JWU42>	^ Win
Jan 06 21:43:19 <mircea_popescu>	ya you were, 2 days
Jan 06 21:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	o wait, that's where the missing bvps was. usagi ?
Jan 06 21:44:06 <JWU42>	I have a few thousand BIB.BVPS as well
Jan 06 21:44:12 <Namworld>	Hey... I want those S.BVPS shares.
Jan 06 21:44:14 <pigeons>	is brendio mia?
Jan 06 21:44:23 <JWU42>	need to foigure when brendio is gonna opay the past few months dvis
Jan 06 21:44:28 <Bugpowder>	well, using usagi's valuation model, we should probably discount the hashking debt to 75% of par
Jan 06 21:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons he hasn't shown up lately, we used to chat ocasionally back like last summer.
Jan 06 21:44:57 <Bugpowder>	Is S.BVPS not paying divs anymore or what?
Jan 06 21:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	iirc they paid like 1.5 total
Jan 06 21:45:06 <Bugpowder>	what was the 1.5 BTC payment?
Jan 06 21:45:39 <pigeons>	dividends on no profit
Jan 06 21:45:54 <Bugpowder>	no profit?  1 time charge?
Jan 06 21:45:59 <Bugpowder>	discounting of goodwill
Jan 06 21:46:00 <Bugpowder>	?
Jan 06 21:46:16 <JWU42>	last spoke to Brendio on Dec 7th it seems
Jan 06 21:46:18 <Bugpowder>	bitvps was down all month?
Jan 06 21:46:28 <pigeons>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFvQWJnZnRZQWJfbk1mNHYtVzhPR0E#gid=0
Jan 06 21:46:48 <Bugpowder>	tx
Jan 06 21:46:59 <Namworld>	We'd have ~300$ more profit if we didn't buy a WHMCS owned license.
Jan 06 21:47:07 <Namworld>	Now we won't pay it monthly
Jan 06 21:47:25 <pigeons>	that sounds forward lookin g:)
Jan 06 21:47:45 <JWU42>	well that looks like a wonderful business
Jan 06 21:47:45 <Namworld>	Still far less then previous dividends.
Jan 06 21:48:01 <JWU42>	3 measly BTC
Jan 06 21:48:12 <JWU42>	that means I get like a satoshi per share
Jan 06 21:48:15 <JWU42>	heh
Jan 06 21:48:19 <pigeons>	ok i guess i have to post comparison
Jan 06 21:48:24 <pigeons>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkGjIAZQI3fydHpEZWl4RFhnelJwd2xqWE5LeFF0TGc#gid=0
Jan 06 21:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134966.msg1437892#msg1437892
Jan 06 21:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha that's my girl.
Jan 06 21:48:40 <pigeons>	from some MOB or something ltc asset
Jan 06 21:48:42 <Namworld>	That's actually 300 satoshi per share.
Jan 06 21:48:47 <Namworld>	But yeah.
Jan 06 21:49:24 <Namworld>	We'd have close to 30 BTC profit without that fixed cost thing.
Jan 06 21:49:33 <JWU42>	Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98958txVSrE
Jan 06 21:49:40 <JWU42>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98958txVSrE
Jan 06 21:50:20 <Namworld>	We'll also be spending on advertisement and getting software which will cost.
Jan 06 21:50:52 <Bugpowder>	ok so it's like a 1 time charge?
Jan 06 21:51:26 <pigeons>	i'm waiting for my, email about how new management is gonna be so responsive and stuff
Jan 06 21:51:30 <Namworld>	yes, 324$ owned instead of monthly. You still pay 50$ per year for updates.
Jan 06 21:51:38 <Bugpowder>	wtf!  That Credit Score is hilarious
Jan 06 21:51:40 <Namworld>	Otherwise it's 19$ monthly
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Jan 06 21:52:16 <Namworld>	228$ per year, less 50$ for yearly updates, 178$ saved each year.
Jan 06 21:52:17 <dub>	I want to kill myself but I can't.
Jan 06 21:52:23 <dub>	usagi fails even at failure
Jan 06 21:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	why and why not ?
Jan 06 21:52:33 <mircea_popescu>	o, you were quoting.
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Jan 06 21:53:27 <Bugpowder>	How can ANYONE's time be worth so little as to be skimming percentages off of sub 1 BTC loans and making a spreadsheet of them.  Google
Jan 06 21:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	"Friedcat still verifies shares. Today i got my confirmation for 1252 shares. GLBSE official data infos. So im safed now because my things with glbse are cleared finally."
Jan 06 21:53:54 <Bugpowder>	Google's server costs to host that page are more then the value of the stuff being tracked.
Jan 06 21:54:04 <pigeons>	heheh :)
Jan 06 21:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i think you have no idea what they squeeze out of a server.
Jan 06 21:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	i'd guess their per-spreadsheet costs are under a satoshi.
Jan 06 21:55:09 <Bugpowder>	what about the calories burnt entering the data into the spreadsheet.  those cost money
Jan 06 21:55:14 <Bugpowder>	and the power to the laptop
Jan 06 21:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	some people really are worthless.
Jan 06 21:56:05 <Bugpowder>	xbabyboy4021x	0.25	8%	30 Days	every 7 days	DEFAULT	Sold To Smiley (0.15)
Jan 06 21:56:06 <Bugpowder>	YES
Jan 06 21:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 06 21:56:26 <Namworld>	Wait spreadsheets for less than 1 BTC of debts?
Jan 06 21:56:39 <pigeons>	i posted it 2 days in a row now
Jan 06 21:56:43 <mircea_popescu>	0.25 btc in default sold for .15 this guy should work for BoA
Jan 06 21:56:49 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdFItM2RwdWU3VHJMeldkSm1IckZNbUE#gid=0
Jan 06 21:56:53 <Bugpowder>	Was able to sell my distressed package of loans for 0.15BTC. 0.1 was written off.
Jan 06 21:57:03 <pigeons>	heh
Jan 06 21:57:11 <Namworld>	Well it started with 269 BTC of debt. But I guess it's now a 0.04 BTC of debt spreadsheet xD
Jan 06 21:57:29 <mircea_popescu>	so let me share a sad, dark secret.
Jan 06 21:57:35 <mircea_popescu>	today i went to a local comedy show.
Jan 06 21:57:56 <Bugpowder>	LTC loans, little tiny children loans.
Jan 06 21:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	i was bored out of my fucking mind. in spite of paying like 8 bux tgo be there and also being with a bunch of friends so we just made fun of the comedians the whole time
Jan 06 21:58:14 <mircea_popescu>	then i come to irc, im laughing my ass off for the past two hours.
Jan 06 21:58:23 <Bugpowder>	you can't buy a pencil at the elementary school shop
Jan 06 21:58:28 <Bugpowder>	for 0.1BTC
Jan 06 21:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	i wish to sell my quality comedy club time (2 hours) for .1 btc now.
Jan 06 21:59:21 <Bugpowder>	So, is BitcoinsDirect still the best place to get large # of coins for US people?
Jan 06 21:59:47 <Bugpowder>	Got a friend that is ready to dip his toe in
Jan 06 21:59:50 <pigeons>	dont think i've heard of it
Jan 06 21:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard of that ?
Jan 06 22:00:05 <Bugpowder>	Tangible Cryptography's service
Jan 06 22:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	i thought dt and mtgox were it
Jan 06 22:00:14 <mircea_popescu>	o, is that what he calls it ?
Jan 06 22:00:17 <Bugpowder>	ya
Jan 06 22:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	a ok. then prolly.
Jan 06 22:00:29 <Bugpowder>	it was AWESOME last time.
Jan 06 22:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't it fc3g or some shit
Jan 06 22:00:49 <Bugpowder>	walk into bank fill out slip, get coins 1% below gox like 2 hours later
Jan 06 22:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	if he has coins.
Jan 06 22:02:09 <pigeons>	send him to bruce wagner!
Jan 06 22:03:47 <Bugpowder>	Is the S.BBET IPO going to go off EXACTLY at midnight Jan 11th, or is it going to be human-triggered around that time?
Jan 06 22:04:56 <pigeons>	i just keep hitting refresh
Jan 06 22:05:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 129 @ 0.00462375 = 0.5965 BTC [+]
Jan 06 22:05:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 494 @ 0.00463274 = 2.2886 BTC [+]
Jan 06 22:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00464937 = 2.7896 BTC [+]
Jan 06 22:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2063 @ 0.0046669 = 9.6278 BTC [+]
Jan 06 22:05:30 <Bugpowder>	S.DICEEEE
Jan 06 22:05:34 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 06 22:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00447985 / 0.0046669 (83804 shares, 375.43 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333524 / 0.0048 (13850953 shares, 46,196.31 BTC)
Jan 06 22:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder why dowes it make a diff ?
Jan 06 22:05:59 <Bugpowder>	you should be able to figure that out
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Jan 06 22:07:27 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: you could also sell coins too
Jan 06 22:07:29 <Bugpowder>	I just want to know when I need to have any orders place by to get that initial allotment
Jan 06 22:07:33 <thestringpuller>	fastcash4bitcoins
Jan 06 22:07:41 <Bugpowder>	I don't need to sell coins
Jan 06 22:07:45 <Bugpowder>	I need to buy coins
Jan 06 22:07:56 <thestringpuller>	you buy coins and give people cash?
Jan 06 22:07:59 <thestringpuller>	or the other way around?
Jan 06 22:08:49 <Bugpowder>	i get cash from friend, I buy coins, I send coins to friend and I either have another few hundred coins for my fund, or MP gets another 30BTC account fee.
Jan 06 22:08:59 <pigeons>	druggie
Jan 06 22:09:07 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 06 22:09:12 <Bugpowder>	nop
Jan 06 22:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder it will be automated, but for my own edumancation
Jan 06 22:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	cuz i still don't see the diff.
Jan 06 22:10:38 <Bugpowder>	why should I provide pricing info to other bidders until just before the event starts
Jan 06 22:10:39 <Namworld>	You don't have a MPEx account yet?
Jan 06 22:10:51 <Bugpowder>	friend does not have account
Jan 06 22:10:55 <Namworld>	oh
Jan 06 22:11:09 <Namworld>	Don't forget to give them your public MPEx key =P
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Jan 06 22:11:31 <Bugpowder>	I am too bad at GPG to get the joke :(
Jan 06 22:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	i still don't see how other bidders can use that info is the thing.
Jan 06 22:11:35 <pigeons>	did havelock ever show a signed statement?
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Jan 06 22:11:45 <Namworld>	It's not a joke =/
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Jan 06 22:12:06 <Namworld>	You refer them have them mention your account ID (public key fingerprint)
Jan 06 22:12:15 <Bugpowder>	ahhhh!
Jan 06 22:12:23 <Bugpowder>	ty
Jan 06 22:12:27 <Bugpowder>	whats the bonus?
Jan 06 22:12:34 <Namworld>	Mircea credits both account with 5 BTC
Jan 06 22:12:40 <Bugpowder>	kewl
Jan 06 22:13:06 <Namworld>	Well, seems like people are still not aware of the referral system =/
Jan 06 22:13:10 <Bugpowder>	Well, I'm not sure if witholding info will make a difference or not.  But I think it will
Jan 06 22:14:01 <Bugpowder>	Allow me to place bids for optimal allotments based on the existing bids
Jan 06 22:14:18 <Bugpowder>	without having others change their bid in time to counter me.
Jan 06 22:14:21 <Bugpowder>	ebay style
Jan 06 22:14:32 <Bugpowder>	but now I have revealed my strategy so ;(
Jan 06 22:14:48 <dub>	IPO sniping was big sport on glbse
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Jan 06 22:15:33 *	Ukto snipes dub
Jan 06 22:15:59 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: i looked through a box for ff7
Jan 06 22:16:00 <Ukto>	wasnt in that one
Jan 06 22:16:04 <Ukto>	i think its under some other stuff in a crate
Jan 06 22:16:10 <Ukto>	gonna try to look in an hour
Jan 06 22:16:15 <thestringpuller>	way to get my hopes up
Jan 06 22:17:38 <Bugpowder>	holyshit they come out small
Jan 06 22:17:39 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ_eeDvCo8U
Jan 06 22:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	im thinking it's equally likely that waiting will get you a benefit or a loss
Jan 06 22:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	on one hand, the guy with the top bid is guaranteed sharex
Jan 06 22:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	on the other, if he gets sold through then you can get shares cheaper later
Jan 06 22:20:01 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: that's cool as shit. marsupials (sp) ftw
Jan 06 22:20:31 <Bugpowder>	It will be an interesting experiment
Jan 06 22:20:54 <Bugpowder>	I don't know if I like the mutual betting model with time-weighting though
Jan 06 22:21:41 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: is this what you spend your freetime watching?
Jan 06 22:21:42 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 06 22:21:52 <Bugpowder>	I have used betsofbitco.in for a long time, and I think the time-weighting diminishes betting volume closer to the event, which is when more people want to be, due to time value of money
Jan 06 22:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	it's not set in stone.
Jan 06 22:22:17 <Bugpowder>	I just want a bitcoin sportsbook with traditional moneyline and pointspreads
Jan 06 22:22:25 <mircea_popescu>	ya whio;s gonna maintain it ?
Jan 06 22:22:27 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller got it off the twitter
Jan 06 22:23:02 <Bugpowder>	Well, you could go based off the hilton lines
Jan 06 22:23:30 <Bugpowder>	and if you have a decent bankroll you can at least allow betting based on the spread
Jan 06 22:23:42 <Bugpowder>	and just up the juice a bit more than a trad book
Jan 06 22:23:57 <Bugpowder>	to deal with the low volume / high variance
Jan 06 22:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	"you"
Jan 06 22:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	who ?
Jan 06 22:25:22 <Bugpowder>	whoever has coins, some betting knowledge, website knowledge and a dream
Jan 06 22:25:49 <Bugpowder>	There are other problems with the mutual model.  It's very hard to get large bets going
Jan 06 22:25:51 <thestringpuller>	betting knowledge?
Jan 06 22:25:52 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 06 22:25:55 <mircea_popescu>	...
Jan 06 22:26:06 <Bugpowder>	You need a vegas sharp to partner with
Jan 06 22:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	dude. you completely misrepresent the total lack of competence in bitcoin
Jan 06 22:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	there's like, 100 or so coders, most incompetent, a few bright, some acceptable
Jan 06 22:26:32 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 06 22:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	there's like 1-2k preop transsexuals, random internet kids
Jan 06 22:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	there's a bunch of ex cons that are all against the state for the very phylosophycal reason that they have priors
Jan 06 22:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	and that's it.
Jan 06 22:27:01 <mircea_popescu>	there isn't a bookie.
Jan 06 22:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	there is (maybe) a grand total of two lawyers
Jan 06 22:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	of which one's a paralegal or some shit.
Jan 06 22:27:20 <Bugpowder>	with the mutual model, if you want to lay 100BTC down, you need to have faith that other people will bet up the other side to an acceptable odds level
Jan 06 22:27:29 <Bugpowder>	which is rare
Jan 06 22:27:50 <dub>	lol
Jan 06 22:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	well... it's not so rare, there's 100 btc bets
Jan 06 22:27:59 <Bugpowder>	Only BFL shit really gets BTCs over 10
Jan 06 22:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	but i can appreciate the point.
Jan 06 22:28:11 <dub>	thats an excellent summary of the bitcoin community
Jan 06 22:28:14 <mircea_popescu>	ty.
Jan 06 22:28:17 <Bugpowder>	I have done a LOT of betting on betsofbitco.in
Jan 06 22:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	i work hard and pay top dollar for my research.
Jan 06 22:28:54 <Bugpowder>	I have tried the strategy of betting on BOTH sides of my event just to get the bet size big enough
Jan 06 22:29:05 <Bugpowder>	for it to be worth it
Jan 06 22:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	i was gonna say, with parimutuel you can always take both sides
Jan 06 22:29:44 <Bugpowder>	cause usually, if you bet big on one side, you get fucked.
Jan 06 22:30:01 <mircea_popescu>	if you have a spread you bet each side of the spread
Jan 06 22:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	and wait for close to closure to wipe it.
Jan 06 22:30:15 <mircea_popescu>	you can make decent money as a bookie on the system as it is, if you actually know odds.
Jan 06 22:31:27 <Bugpowder>	As an alternative model, you pull the football game spread off some vegas site, take any bets that come on either side, and adjust the vig to encourage betting on the side that isn't getting hit as hard.  Then the bet size is decoupled from the odds.
Jan 06 22:31:45 <Bugpowder>	This only works if you are doing events that have a spread
Jan 06 22:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	or that.
Jan 06 22:31:52 <Bugpowder>	but people want to bet on sports
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Jan 06 22:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	but suppose the event is 7:2 to buy , 1:3 to sell (just random numbers)
Jan 06 22:32:06 <Bugpowder>	Lots of money on football
Jan 06 22:32:36 <Dr-G>	where should I buy stocks?
Jan 06 22:32:41 <mircea_popescu>	dr-g what stocks ?
Jan 06 22:32:53 <Dr-G>	satoshi dice for example
Jan 06 22:32:54 <Bugpowder>	naw.  The spread in the seahawks-skins game was +3.5 for seahawks.
Jan 06 22:33:00 <Dr-G>	just wanna have a few
Jan 06 22:33:01 <Bugpowder>	How much coin do you have?
Jan 06 22:33:12 <mircea_popescu>	Dr-G you probably want a broker then.
Jan 06 22:33:37 <Dr-G>	oh you're the MPE something guy, your stuff is cool but too complicated for me ;)
Jan 06 22:34:01 <Bugpowder>	Err -3.5 for seahawks
Jan 06 22:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 06 22:34:18 <Bugpowder>	so if the seahawks score at least 4 points more than skins, you win the bet
Jan 06 22:34:23 <mircea_popescu>	you can try coinbr.com, or else bitfunder has a passthrough
Jan 06 22:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder im really useless with sports betting, i never did it nor do i much care about sports
Jan 06 22:35:11 <Bugpowder>	then you charge 110btc to bet on either side, and if you win you get your bet + 100 back.
Jan 06 22:35:16 <Bugpowder>	if you lose, you lose the 110
Jan 06 22:35:17 <mircea_popescu>	but im just saying, you can put 50/30 btc in, then wait for other bettors to contribute theior own then make a final bet to adjust to reasonable rate either way
Jan 06 22:36:11 <Bugpowder>	if people keep banging on one side, you adjust the vig, i.e.  you charge 150 to win 100 on the side with too much action
Jan 06 22:36:37 <Bugpowder>	If it gets really bad, you move the spread to a new number, i.e. -5.5
Jan 06 22:36:45 <Bugpowder>	This is the way it works, and it works very well
Jan 06 22:37:43 <Bugpowder>	I am actually amazed that nobody has built this site.
Jan 06 22:37:50 <Bugpowder>	hmmm....
Jan 06 22:38:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 06 22:39:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1137 @ 0.0046669 = 5.3063 BTC [+]
Jan 06 22:39:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 563 @ 0.00467507 = 2.6321 BTC [+]
Jan 06 22:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1032 @ 0.00467507 = 4.8247 BTC [+]
Jan 06 22:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 644 @ 0.00477874 = 3.0775 BTC [+]
Jan 06 22:41:00 <Bugpowder>	anyway, I think the betsofbitco.in model is flawed for the most popular topic of betting, sports, and only works for certain long-dated events with a lot of ebb and flow to the apparent odds, that juice the bet value.  When there is a site that does Vegas style odds making, I'm going all in in that IPO.
Jan 06 22:45:06 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 06 22:45:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00449038 / 0.00477874 (84890 shares, 381.19 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333557 / 0.0048 (13854329 shares, 46,212.15 BTC)
Jan 06 22:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	it'd seem the value of that model strictly depends on the quality of the bookie.
Jan 06 22:45:55 <Dr-G>	s.dice is worth 500k btc right now ^^
Jan 06 22:46:03 <Dr-G>	or 430k
Jan 06 22:47:32 <mircea_popescu>	on 30day avg 333557. on 1 day avg 449038
Jan 06 22:49:26 <Dr-G>	minus the 250 btc I robbed :P
Jan 06 22:49:46 <Bugpowder>	ha
Jan 06 22:50:03 <Bugpowder>	the only way to win long term is to take the winnings and buy the stock :-P
Jan 06 22:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	some dood was doing this
Jan 06 22:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	"i won 16btc and promptly turned around and bought the stock"
Jan 06 22:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	i was like... yeah.
Jan 06 22:51:25 <Dr-G>	hehe
Jan 06 22:53:27 <Dr-G>	still a better transaction than that pizza transaction
Jan 06 22:58:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00064105 = 0.7693 BTC [+]
Jan 06 22:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10027 @ 0.00064106 = 6.4279 BTC [+]
Jan 06 22:58:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2315 @ 0.00064366 = 1.4901 BTC [+]
Jan 06 23:01:24 <Namworld>	Hey, at the time, a measly 10 000 BTC for a pizza was an amazing deal on such gastronomy food.
Jan 06 23:01:46 <pigeons>	yeah i don't get the ridicule either
Jan 06 23:01:46 <thestringpuller>	was this when btc was worth 10 cents a coin?
Jan 06 23:01:54 <thestringpuller>	err 1 cent
Jan 06 23:02:30 <Namworld>	Even less than 1 cent
Jan 06 23:02:34 <pigeons>	without being willing to accept bitcoins for pizza, we never would have been able to trade anything for bitcoins
Jan 06 23:03:11 <Bugpowder>	uhhh
Jan 06 23:03:53 <pigeons>	i would have happily given that many for pizza too, but no one else was willing to take them for something valuable like pizza
Jan 06 23:04:02 <mod6>	haha
Jan 06 23:04:13 <Bugpowder>	one way of measuring you value in science is to ask, if I never existed, how far would it have set back the field, in terms of time.
Jan 06 23:04:39 <pigeons>	that's why first thing i did with the time machine was kill Bugpowder's grandpa
Jan 06 23:04:41 <Bugpowder>	if the bitcoin pizza man never existed, we would have been set back a few days
Jan 06 23:05:12 <pigeons>	i hope you mean days in bitcoin time, cause it would have been more than that, by far
Jan 06 23:06:18 <Bugpowder>	how long before another man ordered a pizza
Jan 06 23:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller it was possibly the first time an item of value was exchanged for this internet funny nonsense
Jan 06 23:07:07 <pigeons>	maybe would have been never
Jan 06 23:07:23 <mircea_popescu>	ya, what pigeons said
Jan 06 23:07:40 <pigeons>	but certainly wasn't necessarily a few days imminent
Jan 06 23:08:15 <kakobrekla>	fuck not again
Jan 06 23:08:34 <kakobrekla>	neighbour is leaving for work and im still up
Jan 06 23:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	fuck his wif ?
Jan 06 23:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	+e
Jan 06 23:08:48 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 06 23:09:06 <kakobrekla>	i was trying to get back to a normal pace
Jan 06 23:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	o, that kind of up
Jan 06 23:09:33 <kakobrekla>	whatever normal means.
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Jan 06 23:30:25 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: you are a hacker there is no normal circadian rythym for us
Jan 06 23:31:29 <kuzetsa>	heh
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Jan 06 23:41:22 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: k, going back to the garage to try to find the discs again
Jan 06 23:42:29 <thestringpuller>	cool
Jan 06 23:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 224 @ 0.00466586 = 1.0452 BTC [-]
Jan 06 23:44:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2584 @ 0.00466586 = 12.0566 BTC [-]
Jan 06 23:44:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00474291 = 2.8457 BTC [+]
Jan 06 23:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00474292 = 5.6915 BTC [+]
Jan 06 23:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1456 @ 0.00477874 = 6.9578 BTC [+]
Jan 06 23:44:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9160 @ 0.0047888 = 43.8654 BTC [+]
Jan 06 23:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 645 @ 0.30139779 = 194.4016 BTC [+]
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Jan 07 00:01:44 <gladoscc>	Ukto: what's the current fee for listing a new asset on bitfunder?
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Jan 07 00:34:41 <Ukto>	I am extending the 3btc thru jan at least
Jan 07 00:35:20 <Ukto>	thestringpuller
Jan 07 00:35:23 <Ukto>	i have goot news
Jan 07 00:35:49 <TradeFortress>	oh cool
Jan 07 00:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla http://www.google.com/finance?cid=668090
Jan 07 00:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	le loll. watch bitbet own it.
Jan 07 00:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1648 @ 0.0047888 = 7.8919 BTC [+]
Jan 07 00:45:27 <TradeFortress>	It's 0.0045 on bitfunder.
Jan 07 00:48:15 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: how much you want for it
Jan 07 00:49:09 <Ukto>	1... BILLIONG (pinkeys) bitcoins
Jan 07 00:49:09 <Ukto>	>,>
Jan 07 00:51:40 <thestringpuller>	so more bitcoins than will ever exist?
Jan 07 00:52:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.0047888 = 20.3524 BTC [+]
Jan 07 00:53:23 <Ukto>	deal.
Jan 07 00:53:25 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 07 00:53:32 <Ukto>	what was the original deal?
Jan 07 00:53:36 <Ukto>	5btc?
Jan 07 00:53:46 <Ukto>	although
Jan 07 00:53:50 <Ukto>	i am concerned about disc.. 2
Jan 07 00:54:01 <Ukto>	i can faintly see some light circular scratches
Jan 07 00:54:07 <Ukto>	but being black bottom
Jan 07 00:54:09 <Ukto>	its shiney as hell
Jan 07 00:54:18 <Ukto>	its not enough to feel with a fingernail
Jan 07 00:54:25 <Ukto>	or just a finger
Jan 07 00:54:57 <Ukto>	but if you run your nail back and forth over it, it does make a slight noise :/
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Jan 07 01:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.0006405 = 5.156 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 01:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet/
Jan 07 01:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone's looking for a laugh
Jan 07 01:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ^^
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Jan 07 01:40:40 <Dr-G>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 07 01:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00455893 / 0.0047888 (99863 shares, 455.27 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333775 / 0.0048 (13875451 shares, 46,312.85 BTC)
Jan 07 01:40:59 <Dr-G>	make me rich
Jan 07 01:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	they say that's how the 1929 panic started.
Jan 07 01:46:12 <Namworld>	rah!
Jan 07 01:46:24 <Namworld>	I can't freakin view it, no credit as ever...
Jan 07 01:46:35 <Namworld>	I never ever have darn credits.
Jan 07 01:48:07 <mircea_popescu>	life is short but unfair.
Jan 07 01:49:05 <Namworld>	but I haven't been able to read your blog in months, except right after that time you gave me 100 free credit.
Jan 07 01:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3900 @ 0.0047888 = 18.6763 BTC [+]
Jan 07 01:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	are you on open wifi or something ?
Jan 07 01:51:59 <Namworld>	Nope
Jan 07 01:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.0047888 = 13.8875 BTC [+]
Jan 07 01:56:51 <Namworld>	Yeah I seriously don't know
Jan 07 01:57:20 <Namworld>	This is really odd...
Jan 07 01:57:41 <Dr-G>	we need bitcoin mania 2.0
Jan 07 02:00:51 <TradeFortress>	Hey Namworld
Jan 07 02:01:01 <TradeFortress>	just wondering, what is happening to btc-mining?
Jan 07 02:01:25 <TradeFortress>	Only 15 BTC in holdings?
Jan 07 02:03:04 <Namworld>	The rest was loaned to Amazingrando as per motion in exchange of hashing, until such day we could buy some ASIC rig.
Jan 07 02:03:47 <TradeFortress>	So, there has being no dividends from when GLBSE shut down to now?
Jan 07 02:03:50 <mircea_popescu>	is that marked down as loss ?
Jan 07 02:04:23 <Namworld>	I'll have to see about that.
Jan 07 02:04:51 <Namworld>	Amazingrando isn't very active. Just moved his Bitbond to cryptostock and nothing then.
Jan 07 02:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	i see.
Jan 07 02:09:17 <Namworld>	Was pretty much: "My mining doesn't cover eletricity fees anymore, so I'll stop paying divs. See you when ASICs ship."
Jan 07 02:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	hence 15 btc in holdings
Jan 07 02:28:04 <Namworld>	Indeed.
Jan 07 02:28:37 <Namworld>	Well I guess the only people happy are BTC-BOND holders.
Jan 07 02:39:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10599 @ 0.00064366 = 6.8222 BTC [+]
Jan 07 02:42:42 <Namworld>	Well, I just updated my bitcointalk.org signature, mircea
Jan 07 02:42:51 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94271.0
Jan 07 02:43:06 <Namworld>	My biz + BitVPS + MPEx
Jan 07 02:43:30 <Namworld>	Since I'm now working on both + BitVPS is on MPEx, seems appropriate.
Jan 07 02:46:17 <Namworld>	We also have an ad slot: https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo
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Jan 07 02:56:33 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
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Jan 07 03:01:16 <Namworld>	Those ad slots seems a bit expensive tho.
Jan 07 03:01:35 <Namworld>	We've put a tracking link and going to see if it gets any results.
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Jan 07 03:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	last i checked (maybe a year ago ?) they were horrible.
Jan 07 03:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://business.time.com/2012/12/20/libor-scandal-yep-its-as-bad-as-we-thought/
Jan 07 03:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	heh just catching up on all the juice.
Jan 07 03:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	MPBOR, moar serious than LIBOR
Jan 07 03:21:34 <Namworld>	Well now they're at 100 - 130k weekly impressions.
Jan 07 03:21:41 <Namworld>	per slot
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Jan 07 03:45:34 <pigeons>	Meni Rosenfeld always has to have Meni Rosenfeld's "Thread about Meni Rosenfeld Thread"
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Jan 07 03:57:22 <dub>	impressions of bitcointalk threads
Jan 07 03:58:09 <dub>	which is guaranteed 99% penniless trolls living in moms basement
Jan 07 03:59:51 <pigeons>	we were talking about coinbase before, here's another one https://easycoin.net/
Jan 07 04:01:35 <pigeons>	those sites just make me really hope no one gets burned
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Jan 07 04:06:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0046185 = 4.6185 BTC [-]
Jan 07 04:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00461849 = 0.9237 BTC [-]
Jan 07 04:06:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00461848 = 9.9297 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 04:18:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064051 = 0.6405 BTC [-]
Jan 07 04:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.0006405 = 8.7749 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 04:23:22 <Dr-G>	rofl wtf
Jan 07 04:23:29 <Dr-G>	rocket snail
Jan 07 04:23:33 <pigeons>	:)
Jan 07 04:25:25 <Dr-G>	seems legit
Jan 07 04:26:59 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: can assbot suck in trades from the bitfunder api?
Jan 07 04:35:38 <dub>	http://twitpic.com/bsjc7q
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Jan 07 04:42:57 <pigeons>	Ukto: what is BTCINVEST?
Jan 07 04:44:05 <Ukto>	ahh
Jan 07 04:44:06 <Ukto>	you found it
Jan 07 04:44:07 <Ukto>	dang it
Jan 07 04:44:12 <Ukto>	i look away for 5 friggen seconds
Jan 07 04:44:20 <Ukto>	and someone has to find all my secrets
Jan 07 04:45:01 <TradeFortress>	Lol XD
Jan 07 04:48:32 <Dr-G>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 07 04:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00457495 / 0.0047888 (110013 shares, 503.30 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333877 / 0.0048 (13883920 shares, 46,355.24 BTC)
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Jan 07 04:53:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00461851 = 2.3093 BTC [+]
Jan 07 04:53:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00461848 = 0.4618 BTC [-]
Jan 07 04:53:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00458909 = 9.1782 BTC [-]
Jan 07 04:53:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00457985 = 5.4958 BTC [-]
Jan 07 04:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.0045735 = 0.032 BTC [-]
Jan 07 04:56:01 <TradeFortress>	New investment bond listed on bitfunder: https://bitfunder.com/asset/BTCINVEST
Jan 07 04:56:23 <TradeFortress>	Funds will be initially invested in MPOE and Bitfinex
Jan 07 05:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064365 = 3.2183 BTC [+]
Jan 07 05:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00064366 = 4.7309 BTC [+]
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Jan 07 05:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00457351 = 4.5735 BTC [+]
Jan 07 05:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2025 @ 0.0045735 = 9.2613 BTC [-]
Jan 07 05:38:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00459423 = 7.1211 BTC [+]
Jan 07 05:38:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1446 @ 0.00462341 = 6.6855 BTC [+]
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Jan 07 05:56:30 <Anduck>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 07 05:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00430002 / 0.00457625 / 0.0047888 (119841 shares, 548.42 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00333965 / 0.0048 (13891398 shares, 46,392.46 BTC)
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Jan 07 06:36:52 <Dr-G>	is satoshidice illegal gambling in ireland or aren't they there registered?
Jan 07 06:39:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1170 @ 0.00462341 = 5.4094 BTC [+]
Jan 07 06:39:35 <jurov>	Dr-G afaik it's neither... till some court or eurocrats decide
Jan 07 06:50:58 <Anduck>	then they can move to iceland
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Jan 07 07:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1024 @ 0.00064052 = 0.6559 BTC [-]
Jan 07 07:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1001 @ 0.00064051 = 0.6412 BTC [-]
Jan 07 07:18:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9757 @ 0.0006405 = 6.2494 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 07:25:06 <kakobrekla>	pigeons nope, but bitfunder can rape assbot with teh trades
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Jan 07 07:27:05 <kakobrekla>	i dont pull anymore i get pushed.
Jan 07 07:32:57 <Dr-G>	iceland has no stupid laws? Just get a licence in somalia lol
Jan 07 07:36:33 <Anduck>	iceland got good connections
Jan 07 07:36:35 <Anduck>	to usa and eu
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Jan 07 08:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2533 @ 0.0047154 = 11.9441 BTC [+]
Jan 07 08:04:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 666 @ 0.00478879 = 3.1893 BTC [+]
Jan 07 08:04:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2401 @ 0.0047888 = 11.4979 BTC [+]
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Jan 07 08:09:58 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 07 08:10:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00432328 / 0.00459116 / 0.0047888 (123764 shares, 568.22 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334032 / 0.0048 (13896286 shares, 46,418.16 BTC)
Jan 07 08:10:01 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 07 08:10:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42171, Best ask: 13.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01829, Last trade: 13.42170, 24 hour volume: 14830.47689654, 24 hour low: 13.40000, 24 hour high: 13.53500, 24 hour vwap: 13.49010
Jan 07 08:11:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12518 @ 0.00064017 = 8.0136 BTC [-]
Jan 07 08:11:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 432 @ 0.00064366 = 0.2781 BTC [+]
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Jan 07 08:22:55 <azx>	how can I contact brendio? He is the guy who sold [GLBSE] BIB.BVPS and looks like is now gone hiding
Jan 07 08:25:04 <kakobrekla>	seems to be MIA currently?
Jan 07 08:25:19 <kakobrekla>	it was mentioned in this chan a few times in last 24hrs
Jan 07 08:25:51 <azx>	he is visiting the forum almost every day :)
Jan 07 08:26:47 <azx>	I wonder, did he sell the BIB.BVPS shares in mpex and stole the coin he got from the sale
Jan 07 08:29:00 <kakobrekla>	http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bUpqCcZt
Jan 07 08:29:05 <kakobrekla>	azx ^^
Jan 07 08:30:28 <kakobrekla>	you might want to ask those peeps about unwinding of it
Jan 07 08:31:09 <azx>	:( looks really bad
Jan 07 08:31:38 <azx>	did they go out of business?
Jan 07 08:31:44 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 07 08:31:54 <Bugpowder>	just a one time charge
Jan 07 08:32:14 <Bugpowder>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFvQWJnZnRZQWJfbk1mNHYtVzhPR0E
Jan 07 08:32:37 <Bugpowder>	should increase profits in later months, according to the operators of BitVPS
Jan 07 08:33:02 <Bugpowder>	although I don't know about BIB.BCPS
Jan 07 08:33:14 <Bugpowder>	BiB.BVPS
Jan 07 08:33:26 <Bugpowder>	only S.BVPS, and only what the operators are saying
Jan 07 08:33:32 <azx>	but what about this brendio character? Can his account be frozen in mpex?
Jan 07 08:34:17 <azx>	or is it frozen by now?
Jan 07 08:35:04 <kakobrekla>	i dont think mpex does that
Jan 07 08:36:14 <azx>	is it even operating?
Jan 07 08:36:22 <kakobrekla>	who?
Jan 07 08:36:41 <kakobrekla>	mpex?
Jan 07 08:37:05 <kakobrekla>	with over 100k BTC 30days vol, id say yep
Jan 07 08:42:14 <Bugpowder>	MPEX does more volume in a month these days than all other stock exchanges have in their entire existence.
Jan 07 08:42:34 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 07 08:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00432328 / 0.00459116 / 0.0047888 (123764 shares, 568.22 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334011 / 0.0048 (13846286 shares, 46,248.19 BTC)
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Jan 07 08:55:44 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441.msg1439338#msg1439338
Jan 07 08:55:50 <kakobrekla>	>Also, someone has suggested that I should create means for selling and buying these "on hold" bitcoins, so people who need money quick could sell them at a discount, and other people seeking an investement could buy them.
Jan 07 08:55:59 <kakobrekla>	selling and buying his own debt
Jan 07 08:56:02 <kakobrekla>	how cute
Jan 07 09:01:20 <jurov>	brendio's last posts on btctalk are from October 04, nothing about BIB.BVPS there
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Jan 07 09:24:32 <Diablo-D3>	man
Jan 07 09:24:37 <Diablo-D3>	has anyone seen ukto?
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Jan 07 09:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8367 @ 0.00064366 = 5.3855 BTC [+]
Jan 07 09:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17533 @ 0.00064933 = 11.3847 BTC [+]
Jan 07 09:40:30 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: you should just make cars
Jan 07 09:40:38 <thestringpuller>	DMC for bitcoin
Jan 07 09:40:43 *	Diablo-D3 smacks thestringpuller 
Jan 07 09:41:01 <thestringpuller>	aren't I funny? hah hah
Jan 07 09:43:56 <thestringpuller>	;;seen MiningBuddy
Jan 07 09:43:56 <gribble>	MiningBuddy was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 24 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 36 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <MiningBuddy> Hello guys, is anyone here good with Japanese? I need two lines of text translating to English, will pay in BTC http://i.imgur.com/z7AXc.jpg
Jan 07 09:44:02 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Jan 07 09:44:03 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 29 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> MPBOR, moar serious than LIBOR
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Jan 07 09:53:08 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Jan 07 09:53:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00063899 / 0.00064649 / 0.00066 (214395 shares, 138.60 BTC), 30day: 0.0005119 / 0.00060629 / 0.00066 (54667664 shares, 33,144.87 BTC)
Jan 07 09:53:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker S.DICE
Jan 07 09:53:54 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Jan 07 09:54:00 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 07 09:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00439255 / 0.00460975 / 0.0047888 (114893 shares, 529.63 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0033401 / 0.0048 (13838835 shares, 46,223.20 BTC)
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Jan 07 10:05:25 <jurov>	;;seen jurov
Jan 07 10:05:26 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <jurov> brendio's last posts on btctalk are from October 04, nothing about BIB.BVPS there
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Jan 07 10:16:38 <jcpham>	derp to you all
Jan 07 10:16:53 <gigavps>	derp derp
Jan 07 10:16:55 <abracadabra>	what he said
Jan 07 10:20:04 <jcpham>	lookie lookie
Jan 07 10:20:10 <jcpham>	celebrities in the channel
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Jan 07 10:22:01 <jcpham>	my wife bought me these energy sheets you dissolve on your tongue
Jan 07 10:22:07 <jcpham>	i think i'm tweaking
Jan 07 10:25:38 <jurov>	yea, rambling incoherently, i see
Jan 07 10:25:54 *	abracadabra slaps some sense in jcpham
Jan 07 10:35:08 <jcpham>	gigavps is a celebrity
Jan 07 10:35:12 <jcpham>	abracadabra too
Jan 07 10:35:37 <gigavps>	what did i do now?
Jan 07 10:35:50 <jcpham>	el famouso
Jan 07 10:36:47 <gigavps>	i can certainly do without the fame
Jan 07 10:38:10 <jcpham>	har har har
Jan 07 10:38:16 *	jcpham pokes gigavps with a stick
Jan 07 10:40:33 <abracadabra>	is the stick electrified?
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Jan 07 11:01:34 <jurov>	does the stick vibrate?
Jan 07 11:02:02 <jcpham>	oooh
Jan 07 11:13:21 <gigavps>	dirty
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Jan 07 11:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	"As for Quentin, he has other clients and has, from what I was briefly told, been busy filling in for other attorneys in the office while they were away. I'm hoping to speak with him today to get an updated timeline for the verified claims lists and terms of service for the VPS site."
Jan 07 11:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	this doesn't sound so good.
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Jan 07 11:41:46 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu what doesn't sound good about it, we are still dealing with holiday issues, nbd
Jan 07 11:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	it sounds to me like the lawyer guy is getting drowned in drama and is inches away from throwing his hands up at the entire thing.
Jan 07 11:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	because forumer time is not worth money and lawyer time is.
Jan 07 11:43:11 <gigavps>	lol
Jan 07 11:43:17 <gigavps>	he's getting paid
Jan 07 11:43:22 <gigavps>	nothing to worry about there
Jan 07 11:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	aite.
Jan 07 11:43:49 <gigavps>	not like you care since you aren't claiming anyway
Jan 07 11:44:42 <gigavps>	there are about 8 ppl crying in the gigamining thread, the rest are emailing me, being polite, and working through this thing with me
Jan 07 11:44:51 <gigavps>	8 out of 300
Jan 07 11:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	i don't care other than in the vague macro sense that it'd be best if this actually works as opposed to not working.
Jan 07 11:46:17 <gigavps>	i've done everything i've said i'd do, and as i've said, i'm waiting on Quentin
Jan 07 11:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not saying you haven't.
Jan 07 11:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	bah. so this guy made FOUR deposits before actually hitting one right.
Jan 07 11:49:13 <mircea_popescu>	wtf!
Jan 07 11:54:12 <topace>	mircea_popescu: haha hope it wasnt me!? mine have all been right i think (and thanks for just processing my 80BTC deposit)
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Jan 07 11:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	well whoever it was! &sure.
Jan 07 12:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00469227 = 4.6923 BTC [-]
Jan 07 12:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 230 @ 0.00469226 = 1.0792 BTC [-]
Jan 07 12:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1720 @ 0.00467397 = 8.0392 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 12:18:01 <JWU_42>	mircea_popescu: are you involved in bitbet.us
Jan 07 12:18:03 <JWU_42>	?
Jan 07 12:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Jan 07 12:18:15 <JWU_42>	K
Jan 07 12:18:33 <JWU_42>	MPOE-PR posted something about the site in the YABMC thread
Jan 07 12:18:46 <JWU_42>	didn't know the site existed ;)
Jan 07 12:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	hehe it was just launched a day or two ago
Jan 07 12:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's on mpex too.
Jan 07 12:19:03 <JWU_42>	ahh
Jan 07 12:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	more detailed there
Jan 07 12:21:08 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: do you have any insight yet on btcamazon?
Jan 07 12:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	im not in a hurry
Jan 07 12:24:22 <thestringpuller>	you should be come a bookie
Jan 07 12:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	if i wanted to become a bookie i think i'd have done it by now tho
Jan 07 12:25:32 <kakobrekla>	JWU42>PS - 7 total bets - perhaps an insufficiently small sample size.
Jan 07 12:25:35 <kakobrekla>	go ahead and fix that
Jan 07 12:25:52 <kakobrekla>	:p
Jan 07 12:30:28 <jcpham>	i was thinking of a sports bet
Jan 07 12:30:33 <jcpham>	but the game is today :(
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Jan 07 12:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	aww jcpham gotta do them earlier
Jan 07 12:50:10 <jcpham>	always a bridesmaid
Jan 07 12:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 12:51:35 <jcpham>	did you get my last message mircea_popescu
Jan 07 12:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't know you crossdressed
Jan 07 12:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	well see, it's impossible for me to check seeing how i don't know whats "last" in your context :)
Jan 07 12:52:13 <jcpham>	mr. bloggerman said get in touch
Jan 07 12:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	o o yea he emailed.
Jan 07 12:52:28 <jcpham>	via forum and/or skype
Jan 07 12:52:32 <jcpham>	k cool
Jan 07 12:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	ok these noobs are starting to get on my nerves.
Jan 07 12:53:20 <mircea_popescu>	so! the "business idea" in share "investing" is to create market inefficiencies
Jan 07 12:53:28 <mircea_popescu>	whereby prices to artificially pop on lack of liquidity ?
Jan 07 12:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	waht the fuck is wrong with them!
Jan 07 12:54:15 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
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Jan 07 12:54:34 <jcpham>	i bet it is a link to bitcointalk?
Jan 07 12:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	yes lol
Jan 07 12:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134684.msg1438119#msg1438119
Jan 07 12:59:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00467792 = 10.5253 BTC [+]
Jan 07 12:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00467398 = 4.674 BTC [-]
Jan 07 12:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00467397 = 1.6359 BTC [-]
Jan 07 12:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 770 @ 0.00467397 = 3.599 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00464344 = 13.9303 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00460652 = 3.6852 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 194 @ 0.0045735 = 0.8873 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00456159 = 1.8246 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00449163 = 17.9665 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00448487 = 17.9395 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00444001 = 4.44 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.00443811 = 14.202 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4800 @ 0.00441955 = 21.2138 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3148 @ 0.00441386 = 13.8948 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 729 @ 0.004312 = 3.1434 BTC [-]
Jan 07 13:03:06 <JWU_42>	kakobrekla: heh - nah
Jan 07 13:03:48 <JWU_42>	jcpham: ROLL TIDE!
Jan 07 13:03:52 <jcpham>	what is havelock investments
Jan 07 13:03:54 <jcpham>	yes
Jan 07 13:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	i think some sort of fund/exchange
Jan 07 13:06:29 <jcpham>	i was checking out their site
Jan 07 13:08:40 <topace>	jcpham: i run havelock investments
Jan 07 13:08:43 <topace>	ask away :)
Jan 07 13:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;gettrust topace
Jan 07 13:08:59 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user topace: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=topace
Jan 07 13:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	o hey. had no idea.
Jan 07 13:09:21 <jcpham>	so explain it
Jan 07 13:09:24 <jcpham>	looks mostly canadian
Jan 07 13:09:29 <kakobrekla>	;;getrating topace
Jan 07 13:09:29 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User topace, rated since Wed Jun  8 15:37:29 2011. Cumulative rating 19, from 8 total ratings. Received ratings: 8 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 6 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=topace
Jan 07 13:09:58 <jcpham>	it has a mutual fund feel
Jan 07 13:10:06 <topace>	started as our mining fund
Jan 07 13:10:21 <topace>	then when we looked at exchanges to list our fund on, i couldnt find a decent one
Jan 07 13:10:23 <topace>	so i wrote my own
Jan 07 13:10:36 <jcpham>	the exchange is private?
Jan 07 13:10:36 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/ still going  ?
Jan 07 13:10:38 <topace>	so for a while, the only security listed on my exchange, was our own mining fund
Jan 07 13:10:42 <topace>	no, its public
Jan 07 13:10:47 <topace>	mircea_popescu: yup
Jan 07 13:11:25 <topace>	mircea_popescu: ~2000BTC/day volume, not huge, but pretty good since i only deal with canadians :p
Jan 07 13:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	you and dt should form amalgamated american bitcoin traders
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Jan 07 13:13:51 <topace>	Havelock passthru now has 2% of all SDICE shares that have been released (200,000 of 10,000,000)
Jan 07 13:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	i guess if we count pt's as institutional investors that takes us to about .7% total
Jan 07 13:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	not so bad
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Jan 07 13:15:38 <topace>	0.7% of what ?
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Jan 07 13:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	of float
Jan 07 13:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice ipo was 10%
Jan 07 13:16:26 <smickles>	< topace> Havelock passthru now has 2% of all SDICE shares that have been released (200,000 of 10,000,000) << heh, sounds like I finally have some competition
Jan 07 13:16:49 <smickles>	I'm sure I offer a better deal than havelock
Jan 07 13:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	how much do you hold ? (unless it's a sikrit)
Jan 07 13:17:11 <smickles>	about twice that
Jan 07 13:17:40 <topace>	i did 200,000 in 2 days :p lol
Jan 07 13:17:50 <topace>	couldnt keep my public offerings open they kept selling out
Jan 07 13:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	ya the glbse pt had the same issue.
Jan 07 13:18:05 <smickles>	topace: you run it?
Jan 07 13:18:14 <topace>	smickles: i run havelock investmetns
Jan 07 13:18:17 <mircea_popescu>	you probably should just float a larger set.
Jan 07 13:18:52 <smickles>	topace: well, you can probably top me, I don't have a 'web presence' for what I do
Jan 07 13:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00457769 = 13.7331 BTC [+]
Jan 07 13:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	why is that ?
Jan 07 13:19:28 <smickles>	i don't need one, it seems
Jan 07 13:19:44 <topace>	heh
Jan 07 13:19:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol whatever works i say.
Jan 07 13:20:24 <topace>	yea :p with teh success of the SDICE passthru i was considering doing  a MPOE passthru as well :p not sure if it'd be as susccessful though
Jan 07 13:20:43 <topace>	competition is a good thing :)
Jan 07 13:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	or a bbet pt after ipo
Jan 07 13:21:03 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine Ukto is prolly going to do something like that too
Jan 07 13:21:51 <kakobrekla>	Ukto will just code a new bbet or smth
Jan 07 13:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	ill bet you he won't :D
Jan 07 13:22:05 <kakobrekla>	place it
Jan 07 13:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 07 13:25:41 <smickles>	I'm quite entertained by texts sent to me by accident
Jan 07 13:25:43 <smickles>	"Randy is going to call you in a minute with an update"
Jan 07 13:26:38 <jcpham>	coinabul is on the radio
Jan 07 13:26:51 <jcpham>	http://overseasradio.com/
Jan 07 13:27:17 <topace>	why's there such high bids for S.BBET ?
Jan 07 13:27:49 <mircea_popescu>	it's not floated yet
Jan 07 13:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	i guess people want in ?
Jan 07 13:29:49 <kakobrekla>	;;later tell namworld PS, somebody please tell bitvps to fix their SSL certificate, I can't pay my bill with them until they do this. If they don't get their act together right-quick I'm dropping them from the signcryption network. I've been pestering them about this for two weeks now and am pretty unimpressed with the lack of any sort of response.
Jan 07 13:29:49 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 07 13:30:54 <topace>	so if there's higher bids than the IPO price, what happens? it just takes the highest and works down?
Jan 07 13:30:58 <topace>	when the IPO starts?
Jan 07 13:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	11th
Jan 07 13:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	and yes
Jan 07 13:32:16 <smickles>	 i remember mircea_popescu saying that mpex is socialist in order matching
Jan 07 13:32:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol ?
Jan 07 13:32:48 <smickles>	it's not who placed the order first, if there are multiple orders which would match, they split it
Jan 07 13:33:43 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 07 13:33:54 <kakobrekla>	can live.coinbr chart the orderbook
Jan 07 13:34:04 <kakobrekla>	or it needs to go live before that
Jan 07 13:34:13 <smickles>	working off that likely flawed memory, all the bids @ or above the first block would proportionally split the first block
Jan 07 13:34:19 <kakobrekla>	!ticker b.bet
Jan 07 13:34:21 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Jan 07 13:34:25 <kakobrekla>	meh
Jan 07 13:34:59 <smickles>	and then all bids @ or above the second block proportionally split that one, and so on
Jan 07 13:36:16 <smickles>	http://bitbet.us/bet/16/ << heh, it's like calculating the delta
Jan 07 13:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	smickles that's aside tho,
Jan 07 13:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla it will prolly chart it once it's live
Jan 07 13:39:28 <kakobrekla>	so now i have to code my own chart.
Jan 07 13:39:30 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 07 13:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Jan 07 13:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 13:40:09 <kakobrekla>	cause i wanna SEE
Jan 07 13:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Jan 07 13:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	ok ok.
Jan 07 13:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php
Jan 07 13:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	it was there all along, neh ?
Jan 07 13:41:22 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Jan 07 13:41:28 <kakobrekla>	jurov!"!!!!!
Jan 07 13:43:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 13:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	neither jurov nor ukto are true coders
Jan 07 13:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	they sleep.
Jan 07 13:43:37 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 07 13:43:56 <kakobrekla>	im low on food gotta run to the store bbl
Jan 07 13:44:45 <smickles>	oh my, I just realized, when I'm writing a program, i tend to smoke in place of sleeping
Jan 07 13:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	this is how we find out kakobrekla doesn't have a gf
Jan 07 13:47:04 <jcpham>	if i fixate on a task, i find it difficult to sleep
Jan 07 13:47:15 <jcpham>	so i tend to not fixate on any one task for too long
Jan 07 13:47:36 <jcpham>	quick done. next.
Jan 07 13:48:16 <kakobrekla>	accually, i havent left yet
Jan 07 13:48:21 <kakobrekla>	and the bitch came back.
Jan 07 13:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	aww poor girl.
Jan 07 13:49:27 <kakobrekla>	yeah after the gpg contract things went back to normal!
Jan 07 13:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	you have a gpg contract with your gf ?
Jan 07 13:49:53 <kakobrekla>	twas a joke but im thinking about it
Jan 07 13:50:23 <kakobrekla>	ill give -10 if she splits again.
Jan 07 13:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Jan 07 13:50:52 <jurov>	i had a meeting. eve true coders have meetings
Jan 07 13:50:57 <jurov>	*even
Jan 07 13:51:00 <jurov>	so, what is?
Jan 07 13:51:05 <kakobrekla>	jurov
Jan 07 13:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	we just missed you
Jan 07 13:51:10 <kakobrekla>	19:41.01 ( mircea_popescu ) http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php
Jan 07 13:51:15 <kakobrekla>	make this into pictures pls
Jan 07 13:51:28 <kakobrekla>	fuck 9 min remaining
Jan 07 13:51:30 <kakobrekla>	brb
Jan 07 13:52:23 <jurov>	kakobrekla, which asset?
Jan 07 13:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	jurov he just gott excited about bbet
Jan 07 13:59:47 <jurov>	no cigar. depth['S'] is undefined :/
Jan 07 14:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	well ya, there's no S activity yet.
Jan 07 14:03:16 <kakobrekla>	but
Jan 07 14:03:20 <kakobrekla>	i want my cigar.
Jan 07 14:03:21 <kakobrekla>	:(
Jan 07 14:04:16 *	gigavps runs away with kakobrekla's cigar
Jan 07 14:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	i dub thee sir kakobrekla lewinsky the 2nd
Jan 07 14:04:45 <topace>	whats the "4`085`852` shares"  on the S.DICE volume graph?
Jan 07 14:04:52 <topace>	volume over the period of the graph? (whatever that is?)
Jan 07 14:06:22 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 07 14:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00461387 / 0.0047888 (116066 shares, 535.51 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334271 / 0.0048 (13760569 shares, 45,997.67 BTC)
Jan 07 14:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	can't be.
Jan 07 14:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	well, maybe if it was weekly ?
Jan 07 14:08:11 *	kakobrekla sprouts his tobacco plant seeds.
Jan 07 14:08:42 <topace>	would be nice if numbers made sense :p
Jan 07 14:11:19 <jurov>	http://live.coinbr.com/images/1357585780134.png
Jan 07 14:11:23 <jurov>	nothing to die for
Jan 07 14:11:37 <kakobrekla>	it werks
Jan 07 14:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	F
Jan 07 14:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	maddox can draw a better fire engine.
Jan 07 14:11:57 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 07 14:12:26 <Bugpowder>	topace, its the max daily volume for the month
Jan 07 14:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	o that was the 10k+ day huh
Jan 07 14:13:32 <topace>	Buglouse: ahh! thanks :)
Jan 07 14:13:44 <mircea_popescu>	lmao poor Buglouse
Jan 07 14:13:47 <topace>	so that big red bar on the volume chart
Jan 07 14:14:44 <topace>	mircea_popescu: are you MPOE-PR on bitcontalk? im trying to figure out what the hell adamstgBit is talking about here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134684.40
Jan 07 14:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	she's my pr.
Jan 07 14:18:09 <jurov>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.BBET now working
Jan 07 14:18:21 <kakobrekla>	thanks jurov
Jan 07 14:18:47 <jurov>	also S.BVPS... but you need to select a month to see anything
Jan 07 14:19:44 <kakobrekla>	nothing in my opera for bvps and month
Jan 07 14:20:07 <kakobrekla>	a
Jan 07 14:20:08 <kakobrekla>	interesting
Jan 07 14:20:17 <kakobrekla>	chrome works bvps even for daily
Jan 07 14:20:18 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 07 14:20:40 <jurov>	not surprising as it's code form google
Jan 07 14:23:04 <jurov>	i remember many more smaller orders for s.bbet, what happened?
Jan 07 14:23:17 <jurov>	mpex coalesced them for display?
Jan 07 14:23:22 <Bugpowder>	They got cancelled
Jan 07 14:23:26 <Bugpowder>	buy the ordered
Jan 07 14:23:31 <Bugpowder>	because they would not be filled
Jan 07 14:23:39 <Bugpowder>	due to the current higher bids
Jan 07 14:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	ya i guess ppl took them away
Jan 07 14:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't do nuttin.
Jan 07 14:23:51 <Bugpowder>	price discovery
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Jan 07 14:26:28 <mircea_popescu>	about 1mn of the total 3mn spoken for too
Jan 07 14:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	impressive.
Jan 07 14:26:53 <jurov>	trade will start jan 11 00:00 or 24:00 ?
Jan 07 14:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	how do you answer such a question lol
Jan 07 14:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063901 = 6.3901 BTC [-]
Jan 07 14:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.000639 = 7.668 BTC [-]
Jan 07 14:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	early on the 1tth not late on the 11th
Jan 07 14:27:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3847 @ 0.00063899 = 2.4582 BTC [-]
Jan 07 14:28:07 <jurov>	hehe ok. i mean it like 24:00 is coming after 23:59
Jan 07 14:28:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 825 @ 0.36111486 = 297.9198 BTC [+]
Jan 07 14:28:16 <mircea_popescu>	well it is.
Jan 07 14:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00445174 = 4.4517 BTC [-]
Jan 07 14:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00445174 = 3.784 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 14:42:32 <jurov>	<smickles> it's not who placed the order first, if there are multiple orders which would match, they split it
Jan 07 14:42:35 <jurov>	true?
Jan 07 14:43:14 <mircea_popescu>	dude, from what i recall the conversation was that mpex shouldn't be splitting them
Jan 07 14:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	but treat oldest first.
Jan 07 14:43:32 <mircea_popescu>	about... one year ago
Jan 07 14:43:42 <jurov>	thanks. for a moment my hair has risen dramatically
Jan 07 14:43:54 <jurov>	when i imagined what would that do with coinbr
Jan 07 14:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	and the socialistic thing was a lol remark in passing
Jan 07 14:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	should i dig through logs ?!
Jan 07 14:46:01 <jurov>	no, i believe you
Jan 07 14:47:11 <jurov>	i must be wary of smickles in the future
Jan 07 14:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 14:47:54 <jurov>	if he uses such methods to disturb the competition
Jan 07 14:50:02 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 07 14:50:04 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <smickles> oh my, I just realized, when I'm writing a program, i tend to smoke in place of sleeping
Jan 07 14:50:29 <jurov>	don't support smoking. use coinbr
Jan 07 14:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 07 14:52:22 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea why people'd want price conflict anyway.
Jan 07 14:52:49 <smickles>	;;seen thestringpuller
Jan 07 14:52:49 <gribble>	thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 minutes and 46 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> ;;seen smickles
Jan 07 14:53:25 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 07 14:53:27 <kakobrekla>	a loop!
Jan 07 14:53:30 <smickles>	heh, jurov, I did start that statement with something about how I thought it was based of flawed assumptions
Jan 07 14:53:58 <mircea_popescu>	"For the past few days, I am disturbed, greatly worried, and upset about my ruthless mistake of having sex with my girlfriend. I'm a believer in Christ and my girlfriend is not. "
Jan 07 14:54:22 <smickles>	so that's why usagi went bonkers
Jan 07 14:54:27 <mircea_popescu>	"and my girlfriend turns out to not be very good in the sack" fifh.
Jan 07 14:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	wait, there's an answer.
Jan 07 14:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	Answer:
Jan 07 14:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	You raised a number of good issues and hopefully I'll be able to address most of them.
Jan 07 14:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	What you describe is a typical trap of Satan.
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Jan 07 14:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	“Our findings demonstrate that infidelity and number of sexual partners are both under moderate genetic influence (41% and 38% heritable, respectively) and the genetic correlation between these two traits is strong (47%).”
Jan 07 14:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	somebody doesn't quite grok statistix
Jan 07 15:01:03 <jcpham>	http://torgronsund.com/2013/01/07/cofounders-and-thieves/
Jan 07 15:01:16 <jcpham>	that article is missing the word bitcoin
Jan 07 15:01:34 <jcpham>	otherwise it reads like a bitcointalk post
Jan 07 15:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	must be really hard to be anonymous when your name actually is tor.
Jan 07 15:02:05 <jcpham>	haha
Jan 07 15:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	"suddenly had been withdrawn"
Jan 07 15:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	ppl putting suddenly where suddenly doesn't belong
Jan 07 15:03:08 <Bugpowder>	what time of the day does the bitbet betting cutoff take place?
Jan 07 15:03:09 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard of a half hour spirited bout of bank withdrawals
Jan 07 15:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ^
Jan 07 15:03:24 <Bugpowder>	If betting ends on Jan 12th, when does that occur?
Jan 07 15:03:29 <kakobrekla>	midnight gmt
Jan 07 15:03:30 <jcpham>	it reads like the bitcoin magazine debacle
Jan 07 15:03:33 <Bugpowder>	very important for sports betting
Jan 07 15:03:35 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 07 15:03:36 <jcpham>	where vladimir was billing them for emails
Jan 07 15:03:45 <Bugpowder>	like start of the day or end of day midnight GMT
Jan 07 15:03:45 <Bugpowder>	?
Jan 07 15:03:55 <Bugpowder>	00:00 or 24:00 :)
Jan 07 15:04:05 <kakobrekla>	end
Jan 07 15:04:08 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 07 15:04:34 <kakobrekla>	bettings stops before that
Jan 07 15:04:37 <kakobrekla>	2-7 days
Jan 07 15:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i dunno why people got so excited. if i were involved with that caliber of idiots i'd be billing 10 btc an hour too.
Jan 07 15:05:19 <jcpham>	he did keep good records
Jan 07 15:05:45 <Bugpowder>	you need to expand those options
Jan 07 15:05:46 <Bugpowder>	the 2-7 day thing
Jan 07 15:05:55 <kakobrekla>	wait i might have given you wrong info
Jan 07 15:05:59 <Bugpowder>	because the time decay to zero will kill late betting
Jan 07 15:06:02 <kakobrekla>	im just cheking what i coded now
Jan 07 15:06:02 <Bugpowder>	no you are correct
Jan 07 15:06:06 <jcpham>	yes allow 12 hour bets so i can take money from chumps
Jan 07 15:06:14 <jcpham>	oops did i say that
Jan 07 15:06:30 <Bugpowder>	I want to set the resolution date later than the event
Jan 07 15:06:39 <Bugpowder>	but cutoff betting prior to event
Jan 07 15:06:58 <Bugpowder>	otherwise nobody will bet late.
Jan 07 15:06:59 <Bugpowder>	so that event decay is only to ~70% of starting value
Jan 07 15:07:12 <Bugpowder>	I would actually prefer no decay.
Jan 07 15:07:19 <Bugpowder>	over decay to zero
Jan 07 15:07:27 <kakobrekla>	curretly decay is from start to the time when the betting stops not the resolution date
Jan 07 15:07:38 <Bugpowder>	mp said it wrong then
Jan 07 15:07:45 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 07 15:07:52 <Bugpowder>	is it possible to have a user selected decay rate?
Jan 07 15:08:12 <kakobrekla>	it was planed at the begining but thrown out later on
Jan 07 15:08:29 <kakobrekla>	i dunno
Jan 07 15:08:55 <Bugpowder>	It is absolutely necessary if you want there to be serious betting volumen
Jan 07 15:09:05 <Bugpowder>	most people want to bet close to event
Jan 07 15:09:12 <Bugpowder>	but wont if they are getting 1:10 odds
Jan 07 15:09:18 <Bugpowder>	because they are late to the party
Jan 07 15:09:29 <kakobrekla>	odds are the same, weight is different
Jan 07 15:09:41 <Bugpowder>	the weight defines the odds
Jan 07 15:09:45 <Bugpowder>	for the bettor
Jan 07 15:10:04 <Bugpowder>	any new bets are diluted
Jan 07 15:10:11 <Bugpowder>	based on the decay
Jan 07 15:10:26 <Bugpowder>	there is some marginal utility for a decay
Jan 07 15:10:28 <kakobrekla>	odds of wining or losing are the same
Jan 07 15:10:34 <Bugpowder>	your EV
Jan 07 15:10:35 <kakobrekla>	the amount of reward differs
Jan 07 15:10:41 <Bugpowder>	EV is all that matters
Jan 07 15:10:47 <kakobrekla>	but thats not odds
Jan 07 15:10:57 <Bugpowder>	ok fine
Jan 07 15:11:08 <kakobrekla>	i mean yeah
Jan 07 15:11:09 <Bugpowder>	EV is strongly negative
Jan 07 15:11:13 <kakobrekla>	for different subjects
Jan 07 15:11:13 <Bugpowder>	for both sides of a bet
Jan 07 15:11:21 <kakobrekla>	different decay would be 'more apropriate' perhaps
Jan 07 15:11:22 <Bugpowder>	after 25% decay
Jan 07 15:11:35 <kakobrekla>	but decay must happen
Jan 07 15:11:37 <Bugpowder>	if the odds are properly expressed
Jan 07 15:11:38 <Bugpowder>	why?
Jan 07 15:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	no seriously, user-suggestable decay will prolly be in gold
Jan 07 15:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is beta recall.
Jan 07 15:11:57 <Bugpowder>	decay is not used in ANY real wagering site
Jan 07 15:11:59 <Bugpowder>	only the failure that is betsofbitcoin
Jan 07 15:12:25 <kakobrekla>	mp will take over from here.
Jan 07 15:12:27 <kakobrekla>	;)
Jan 07 15:12:28 <Bugpowder>	Anyway, I'll be back later
Jan 07 15:12:35 <Bugpowder>	I have discussed with him too
Jan 07 15:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the main problem is that iots so hard to user-specify
Jan 07 15:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	without reimplementing lisp\
Jan 07 15:12:57 <Bugpowder>	Then have a switch
Jan 07 15:13:02 <Bugpowder>	decay or no decay
Jan 07 15:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	i think that's the minimal solution yes.
Jan 07 15:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18958 @ 0.00063757 = 12.0871 BTC [-]
Jan 07 15:13:49 <jcpham>	did you guys know bit-pay has an invoice tool?
Jan 07 15:13:57 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Jan 07 15:14:06 <jcpham>	i've been wanting to play with it
Jan 07 15:14:44 <Bugpowder>	Decay only makes sense for events like "BFL will ship by x date"
Jan 07 15:15:01 <Bugpowder>	it does not make sense for "Broncos will beat Ravens on Saturday"
Jan 07 15:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	in a limited sense it does
Jan 07 15:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	(if you bet this week before bronco star kills itself)
Jan 07 15:15:30 <Bugpowder>	Right
Jan 07 15:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	but certainly the linear decay makes no sense in most such situations
Jan 07 15:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	as in, it's a pretty dumb macro attempt to handle discrete events
Jan 07 15:15:51 <Bugpowder>	Yes, a much less steep slope would be good for those circumstances
Jan 07 15:16:05 <Bugpowder>	for binary events with a fixed event time
Jan 07 15:16:23 <kakobrekla>	i agree
Jan 07 15:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	final/gold/retail/2.0/we you wanna call it is scheduled for february sometime
Jan 07 15:16:42 <Bugpowder>	anyway.  I'm going to hold off placing up my props until that is implemented.  Ready to drop 100BTC to seed the site with some good sports bets.
Jan 07 15:16:47 <mircea_popescu>	this'd be one of the things that'd be addressed
Jan 07 15:17:00 <Bugpowder>	NFL playoffs will be over by then
Jan 07 15:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's just, it's something that can benefit from a little marketplace input
Jan 07 15:17:22 <Bugpowder>	Well I'm giving it right now
Jan 07 15:17:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00436997 = 2.622 BTC [-]
Jan 07 15:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 173 @ 0.00457769 = 0.7919 BTC [+]
Jan 07 15:17:57 <Bugpowder>	Gotta run.  talk about it later.
Jan 07 15:18:20 <kakobrekla>	later
Jan 07 15:18:52 <Bugpowder>	also
Jan 07 15:19:05 <Bugpowder>	cutoff really should be able to go to 1 day before the event
Jan 07 15:19:24 <Bugpowder>	70% of the action come day before an event.
Jan 07 15:19:32 <Bugpowder>	(guess)
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Jan 07 15:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Jan 07 15:26:41 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: you should build tha
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Jan 07 15:32:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2542 @ 0.00063757 = 1.6207 BTC [-]
Jan 07 15:32:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00063747 = 5.1635 BTC [-]
Jan 07 15:32:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00063698 = 3.5352 BTC [-]
Jan 07 15:32:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12858 @ 0.00063603 = 8.1781 BTC [-]
Jan 07 15:37:01 <kakobrekla>	http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8m5d0_everything-is-amazing-and-nobody-i_fun#.UOswjESxrXN
Jan 07 15:38:13 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham left that tor dood a comment. real curious if he publishes it.
Jan 07 15:38:32 <jcpham>	heh
Jan 07 15:38:44 <jcpham>	you didn't call him a moron did you?
Jan 07 15:38:57 <mircea_popescu>	it reads
Jan 07 15:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	This write-up is so very… noobish I have serious doubts you have any business in business.
Jan 07 15:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	And you claim to be teaching others “entrepreneurship” ?! Really ? Ridiculous. Then again I guess this is how academia became irrelevant in the marketplace, by hiring complete noobs to be “teaching”.
Jan 07 15:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	Seriously, stick to what you know and understand. Boardrooms aren’t for everyone.
Jan 07 15:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't call him a moron literally because he'd not have comprehended how true it is.
Jan 07 15:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	you have to draw it out for the morons.
Jan 07 15:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00446786 = 10.7229 BTC [-]
Jan 07 15:39:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00446786 = 0.4468 BTC [-]
Jan 07 15:39:36 <jcpham>	that article is popular on the ycombinator scene today
Jan 07 15:39:39 <jcpham>	as you can imagine
Jan 07 15:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	color me unsurprised.
Jan 07 15:39:46 <mircea_popescu>	fucking scenesters.
Jan 07 15:39:52 <mircea_popescu>	it's literally became a roadshow attraction.
Jan 07 15:40:18 <jcpham>	there are a couple aggregate news sources i follow daily if i have the time
Jan 07 15:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	young-ish sorta out of shape pasty ass jew today can either go into the stand-up comedy scene or the start-up comedy scene
Jan 07 15:40:26 <jcpham>	the HN stuff is usually hilarity
Jan 07 15:40:34 <jcpham>	alot of the VC's thoughts and stuff
Jan 07 15:40:50 <jcpham>	http://www.florian-rappl.de/html5/projects/SuperMario/
Jan 07 15:40:54 <mircea_popescu>	ima end up hiring moar pr chicks.
Jan 07 15:40:55 <jcpham>	^ also grabbed my attention today
Jan 07 15:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	where am i to find em ;/
Jan 07 15:41:18 <jcpham>	pigeons will pretend to be alady
Jan 07 15:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 15:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	omg teh sound
Jan 07 15:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4653 @ 0.00063851 = 2.971 BTC [+]
Jan 07 15:50:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3917 @ 0.00064933 = 2.5434 BTC [+]
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Jan 07 15:52:13 <topace>	would anyone object if i wrote a Havelock bot to output stuff here using identical format to assbot ?
Jan 07 15:53:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2330 @ 0.00065144 = 1.5179 BTC [+]
Jan 07 15:54:41 <dub>	havelock bot?
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Jan 07 15:55:31 <topace>	dub: for trades on www.havelockinvestments.com
Jan 07 15:56:47 <dub>	oic, check with kakobrekla
Jan 07 15:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	why not just pipe to assbot ?
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Jan 07 15:58:22 <topace>	mircea_popescu: that would work too, how do i do that ?
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Jan 07 15:58:43 <topace>	who wrote assbot ?
Jan 07 15:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla
Jan 07 15:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	there's a spec somewhere
Jan 07 15:59:26 <topace>	that would be ideal :)
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Jan 07 16:01:47 <topace>	kakobrekla: you there? can you let me know how to interface with assbot ?
Jan 07 16:02:31 <jcpham>	hahaha
Jan 07 16:02:46 <jcpham>	that last line was classic
Jan 07 16:03:20 <dub>	topace: buy it flowers and a bottle of wine
Jan 07 16:03:39 <topace>	lol
Jan 07 16:03:40 <thestringpuller>	;;seen Ukto
Jan 07 16:03:40 <gribble>	Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 19 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <Ukto> and someone has to find all my secrets
Jan 07 16:03:42 <dub>	alternatively rophynol
Jan 07 16:04:22 <jcpham>	r-o-o-f-i-e-s for assbot
Jan 07 16:04:32 <jcpham>	working title for my sci-fi porno
Jan 07 16:04:34 <topace>	who | grep -i assbot | date; cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger; mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount; sleep
Jan 07 16:05:28 <jcpham>	umount; sleep is my favorite part
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Jan 07 16:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe gf got back with a printed gpgun and fixed him.
Jan 07 16:06:13 <Diablo-D3>	so what happened to Ukto?
Jan 07 16:07:01 <Ukto>	?
Jan 07 16:07:05 <Ukto>	yeah. what happened to ukto
Jan 07 16:07:15 *	Ukto is heavily vested. needs to know
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Jan 07 16:07:32 <jcpham>	Diablo-D3 how is DMC coming along?
Jan 07 16:07:42 <jcpham>	when can i tour the datacenter
Jan 07 16:07:47 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: I thought you wanted the list
Jan 07 16:07:54 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: never, blame nefario
Jan 07 16:07:59 <jcpham>	:(
Jan 07 16:08:00 <thestringpuller>	Ukto where is dat ff7
Jan 07 16:08:10 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: did you get my msgs abou tit?
Jan 07 16:08:11 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: pm
Jan 07 16:08:38 <thestringpuller>	how much for it?
Jan 07 16:11:57 <Ukto>	[12:45] <mircea_popescu> neither jurov nor ukto are true coders < -- damn straight. and dont you forget it.
Jan 07 16:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Jan 07 16:12:29 <Ukto>	[12:23] <mircea_popescu> i imagine Ukto is prolly going to do something like that too & [12:24] <kakobrekla> Ukto will just code a new bbet or smth <-- ... .. *whisltes....* ... >,>
Jan 07 16:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 16:13:03 <Ukto>	[23:55] <Ukto> what was the original deal? 5btc?
Jan 07 16:13:08 <Ukto>	althought, i am concerned about disc.. 2
Jan 07 16:13:32 <Ukto>	i can faintly see some light circular scratches. but being black bottom, its shiney as hell, if you run your nail back and forth over it, it does make a slight noise :/
Jan 07 16:14:18 <jurov>	put it into gramophone then
Jan 07 16:14:36 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 07 16:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	I'm hoping for a site to pop up with floating rates the way intrade used to work.
Jan 07 16:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	anyone here know how intrade used to work ?
Jan 07 16:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	(i never used it)
Jan 07 16:15:46 <Ukto>	never even heard of it
Jan 07 16:18:10 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: do you have a playstation to test them?
Jan 07 16:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	o i see, it was just a simple market simulation.
Jan 07 16:19:15 <Ukto>	not sure where the ps1 is
Jan 07 16:19:28 <Ukto>	but I do have a p2 and a 1st gen ps3
Jan 07 16:19:32 <Ukto>	ps2
Jan 07 16:19:40 <Ukto>	should all have support I think
Jan 07 16:20:00 <Ukto>	althoguh
Jan 07 16:20:01 <Ukto>	fair warning
Jan 07 16:20:04 <Ukto>	if I start playing
Jan 07 16:20:08 <Ukto>	I might not sell
Jan 07 16:20:12 <Ukto>	until i have beat the game
Jan 07 16:20:13 <Ukto>	:P
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Jan 07 16:20:55 <Ukto>	ill see if I can test it late tonight when the kids get to bed and i can hook thign sto the tv without 1mil questions
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Jan 07 16:48:42 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu  I posted some sports stuff.  We will see how the decay works.
Jan 07 16:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	approved.
Jan 07 16:53:38 <Bugpowder>	how long does it take for the bet values to update?
Jan 07 16:53:43 <Bugpowder>	should have 2 confirms
Jan 07 16:53:54 <Bugpowder>	by now
Jan 07 16:56:52 <Bugpowder>	showin  up now
Jan 07 17:00:26 <mircea_popescu>	1 confirm basically
Jan 07 17:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	but i guess there may be second-level delays due to chain parsing etc
Jan 07 17:05:19 <Bugpowder>	all good
Jan 07 17:05:40 <Bugpowder>	R U RDY 4 SOME FOOTBALL??
Jan 07 17:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 17:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	i couldn't even tell you who won if i watched a match
Jan 07 17:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	Confirmed total: 225 BTC
Jan 07 17:06:17 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 07 17:06:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00461688 / 0.0047888 (108318 shares, 500.09 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334312 / 0.0048 (13765692 shares, 46,020.49 BTC)
Jan 07 17:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty good tho, bitbet seems stuck on 100 btc bet a day
Jan 07 17:06:30 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 07 17:06:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.51931, Best ask: 13.53998, Bid-ask spread: 0.02067, Last trade: 13.53998, 24 hour volume: 21012.52240497, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.54999, 24 hour vwap: 13.49166
Jan 07 17:06:42 <Bugpowder>	Well, we will see
Jan 07 17:07:19 <Bugpowder>	I think the site can be a success with the right exposure and the right audience with enough coins and interest in the propositions
Jan 07 17:07:47 <Bugpowder>	and selectable decay :)
Jan 07 17:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1*365*20/10000000
Jan 07 17:07:53 <gribble>	0.00073
Jan 07 17:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	fo reals.
Jan 07 17:08:22 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i still dunno how to specify decay tho.
Jan 07 17:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	i guess i could do two-point linear three point polynomial four point spline
Jan 07 17:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	except i doubt there's five ppl in btc who could read and comprehend the faq for that in one pass.
Jan 07 17:10:26 <Bugpowder>	Linear is fine for some events
Jan 07 17:10:37 <Bugpowder>	actually linear is probably ok for all events
Jan 07 17:10:58 <Bugpowder>	just have a selectable slope, i.e. final decay point
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Jan 07 17:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	all decay starts say 100k ends *user selected* ?
Jan 07 17:11:25 <Bugpowder>	0 for stochasitic occuring events
Jan 07 17:11:43 <Bugpowder>	err
Jan 07 17:11:59 <Bugpowder>	0 for events that could be triggered at any time (ie earthquake)
Jan 07 17:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	im really thinking maybe dump decay entirely.
Jan 07 17:12:17 <Bugpowder>	naw
Jan 07 17:12:33 <Bugpowder>	I can see the utitility for things like earthwuake
Jan 07 17:12:38 <Bugpowder>	or BFL shipping
Jan 07 17:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	this is also true
Jan 07 17:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	as time progresses...
Jan 07 17:12:53 <PsychoticBoy>	BFL shipped today :D
Jan 07 17:13:01 <Bugpowder>	85,000 for binary events taht occur once at a known time (sporting event)
Jan 07 17:13:08 <pigeons>	check's in the mail
Jan 07 17:13:09 <Bugpowder>	FPGAs?
Jan 07 17:13:12 <PsychoticBoy>	my new PSU, the other died yesterday
Jan 07 17:13:16 <PsychoticBoy>	;)
Jan 07 17:13:27 <PsychoticBoy>	for free
Jan 07 17:13:53 <Bugpowder>	85,000 / 2^(n-1) for sporting tournaments where n is the number of rounds and you are betting on the winner (maybe)
Jan 07 17:14:06 <PsychoticBoy>	1 day shipping , new record, got the tracking code
Jan 07 17:14:11 <Bugpowder>	maybe 100,000 / 2^(n-1) for that
Jan 07 17:14:24 <PsychoticBoy>	BFL CAN ship in 1 day :D
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Jan 07 17:15:04 <PsychoticBoy>	had one ordered on ebay before contacting BFL though
Jan 07 17:15:35 <PsychoticBoy>	let see which one comes first
Jan 07 17:19:12 <Anduck>	whatcha ordered?
Jan 07 17:19:15 <Anduck>	fpga or fpga?
Jan 07 17:19:34 <jcpham>	i say a BFL single on ebay starting at 600 the other day
Jan 07 17:19:45 <jcpham>	why i was on ebay i shudder to remember
Jan 07 17:21:37 <jcpham>	<dub> don't make obama fire a tornado at you
Jan 07 17:21:42 <jcpham>	gtfo lol
Jan 07 17:24:32 <PsychoticBoy>	I oredered a new PSU, send them an email yesterday and they offered a new PSU for free and its already in the mail
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Jan 07 17:31:18 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham what's a single worth these days ?
Jan 07 17:36:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 96 @ 0.13595559 = 13.0517 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 17:39:36 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 07 17:39:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.50000, Best ask: 13.54467, Bid-ask spread: 0.04467, Last trade: 13.54467, 24 hour volume: 23705.29840652, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.58900, 24 hour vwap: 13.49859
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Jan 07 17:39:52 <Bugpowder>	BREAKOUT
Jan 07 17:39:57 <Bugpowder>	WEEKLY HIGH
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Jan 07 17:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	o hey.
Jan 07 17:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	no wonder calls were selling earlier
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Jan 07 17:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	o, and it looks like bbet will be oversubscribed.
Jan 07 17:41:58 <Bugpowder>	??
Jan 07 17:42:15 <Bugpowder>	o
Jan 07 17:42:18 <Bugpowder>	I c
Jan 07 17:42:36 <Bugpowder>	They saw all the sports action
Jan 07 17:42:41 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 07 17:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 17:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	may be.
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Jan 07 17:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	it occurs to me, the logical thing would be for someone with little capital but a journalism degree to start a bitcoin financials blog
Jan 07 17:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	just the tips he can pick up idling in this chan are enough to guarantee success.
Jan 07 17:44:22 <Bugpowder>	arg
Jan 07 17:44:43 <Bugpowder>	kalkobrekla was wrong about the bet closing time
Jan 07 17:45:10 <dub>	mircea_popescu: last I checked OneFixt was making fuck all doing that
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Jan 07 17:45:28 <dub>	mircea_popescu: via IRC tho, not blawg
Jan 07 17:45:38 <Bugpowder>	" <Bugpowder> like start of the day or end of day midnight GMT [15:03] <Bugpowder> ? [15:03] <Bugpowder> 00:00 or 24:00 :) [15:04] <kakobrekla> end"
Jan 07 17:45:59 <Bugpowder>	actually it looks like its start of day, based on the cutoff times on the website.
Jan 07 17:46:01 <Bugpowder>	Oops
Jan 07 17:46:01 <mircea_popescu>	dub blog. it matters.
Jan 07 17:46:18 <Bugpowder>	blogs are huge
Jan 07 17:46:24 <Bugpowder>	if you have high quality content
Jan 07 17:46:24 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. i know cause i run one.
Jan 07 17:46:28 <Bugpowder>	me too
Jan 07 17:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya but yours doesn't charge.
Jan 07 17:46:46 <Bugpowder>	mine enhances my repuation
Jan 07 17:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	mine does too.
Jan 07 17:46:55 <Bugpowder>	lots of people know me
Jan 07 17:46:58 <Bugpowder>	in science
Jan 07 17:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	i get chicks writing for fucking advice.
Jan 07 17:46:59 <Bugpowder>	via the blog
Jan 07 17:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	i guess each his own huh :D
Jan 07 17:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	haha atlanta 6.02:6.01 ?! noway, even odds ?
Jan 07 17:47:47 <Bugpowder>	13.59
Jan 07 17:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/50/
Jan 07 17:48:14 <Bugpowder>	well atlanta is actually favored 3:2
Jan 07 17:48:25 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: why not bet title in the uri?
Jan 07 17:48:29 <Bugpowder>	but I like the seahawks
Jan 07 17:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck now that's a great q.
Jan 07 17:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	i guess we're too dumb to have thought of that.
Jan 07 17:49:46 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you're on, dawg.
Jan 07 17:50:04 <kakobrekla>	there ya go
Jan 07 17:50:04 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/50/why-not-bet-title-in-the-uri/
Jan 07 17:50:07 <kakobrekla>	sorry was out again
Jan 07 17:50:18 <kakobrekla>	umm yeah bugpowder i checked b4 as i said
Jan 07 17:50:33 <kakobrekla>	but i forgot to tell you looks like its the start of that day that ends the bet
Jan 07 17:50:44 <kakobrekla>	if its ends on the first of feb
Jan 07 17:50:59 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: fix it
Jan 07 17:50:59 <Anduck>	xD
Jan 07 17:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol kakobrekla
Jan 07 17:51:02 <kakobrekla>	it will end first of feb
Jan 07 17:51:04 <Anduck>	*improve it
Jan 07 17:51:06 <mircea_popescu>	the idea is for the bet to use the name omg
Jan 07 17:51:15 <Bugpowder>	as long as its short?
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Jan 07 17:51:22 <kakobrekla>	ya just put whatever after the id
Jan 07 17:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	use first 125 chars
Jan 07 17:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ya but the idea is to not have to type it out
Jan 07 17:51:40 <kakobrekla>	myeah
Jan 07 17:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	when i rightclick on a bet, i wanna copy the named url
Jan 07 17:51:42 <kakobrekla>	fine fine
Jan 07 17:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00471151 = 4.7115 BTC [+]
Jan 07 17:51:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1823 @ 0.00471152 = 8.5891 BTC [+]
Jan 07 17:51:47 <Anduck>	u could see the bet from the URI itself!!!
Jan 07 17:51:53 <Anduck>	u dont need to open the link
Jan 07 17:51:55 <kakobrekla>	memorize them
Jan 07 17:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	elf!!!
Jan 07 17:51:57 <Anduck>	to see what the bet is for
Jan 07 17:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/53/kakobrekla-is-not-a-real-coder
Jan 07 17:52:41 <kakobrekla>	that works as well
Jan 07 17:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	well it's a problem!
Jan 07 17:53:01 <kakobrekla>	why?
Jan 07 17:53:07 <kakobrekla>	its intentionally so
Jan 07 17:53:16 <kakobrekla>	just because of that reason
Jan 07 17:53:23 <kakobrekla>	cause someone will want that juice in the url
Jan 07 17:53:35 <kakobrekla>	and i can add it in a minute or 10
Jan 07 17:53:39 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 07 17:53:50 <Anduck>	do it
Jan 07 17:53:53 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck you know, for this very valuable obvious observation you get 1 btc
Jan 07 17:54:05 <kakobrekla>	i need coffee first.
Jan 07 17:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	pick a bet, put an addy in, paste where the btc should go and i'll send it
Jan 07 17:54:21 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: thank you, i'll pick one! haha
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Jan 07 17:56:20 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/26/   addr 1L9AstSVETkdjk8o3Uev5Ue8vbjASxRm8G   aaand i pick NO
Jan 07 17:56:29 <Anduck>	no way gavin is giving up yet
Jan 07 17:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	sent.
Jan 07 17:58:07 <Anduck>	accidently gave u my own address lol
Jan 07 17:58:13 <Anduck>	thanks, sent it to bet addr now
Jan 07 17:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol k
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Jan 07 18:21:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2469 @ 0.00470145 = 11.6079 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 18:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 300 @ 0.36086651 = 108.26 BTC [-]
Jan 07 18:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 800 @ 0.24098641 = 192.7891 BTC [+]
Jan 07 18:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 500 @ 0.2969264 = 148.4632 BTC [-]
Jan 07 18:47:21 <Bugpowder>	come on
Jan 07 18:47:25 <Bugpowder>	buy the fucking 130s
Jan 07 18:48:19 <Namworld>	... no
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Jan 07 18:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 18:53:53 <kakobrekla>	Namworld did you get my later msg
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Jan 07 18:54:46 <Namworld>	no, which one?
Jan 07 18:56:01 <kakobrekla>	19:29.44 ( kakobrekla ) ;;later tell namworld PS, somebody please tell bitvps to fix their SSL certificate, I can't pay my bill with them until they do this. If they don't get their act together right-quick I'm dropping them from the signcryption network. I've been pestering them about this for two weeks now and am pretty unimpressed with the lack of any sort of response.
Jan 07 18:56:01 <kakobrekla>	19:29.45 ( gribble ) The operation succeeded.
Jan 07 18:56:05 <kakobrekla>	this one
Jan 07 18:56:19 <kakobrekla>	from ET
Jan 07 18:56:39 <kakobrekla>	fuckin space aliens using bvps
Jan 07 18:57:15 <Ukto>	whats bbet ?
Jan 07 18:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto http://bitbet.us/
Jan 07 18:58:19 <Ukto>	..
Jan 07 18:58:19 <Ukto>	mp
Jan 07 18:58:27 <Ukto>	this looks awfully familiar to another site i recently linked you
Jan 07 18:58:30 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 07 18:58:37 <Ukto>	is this the same site just redone ?
Jan 07 18:58:43 <Ukto>	or a diff site knocking them off
Jan 07 18:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	um
Jan 07 18:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	which ?
Jan 07 18:59:12 <kakobrekla>	the one with the baby?
Jan 07 18:59:17 <Ukto>	i wann say it was called bitbet
Jan 07 18:59:19 <Ukto>	nah
Jan 07 18:59:25 <Ukto>	it worked teh exact same way
Jan 07 18:59:28 <Ukto>	just a diff look
Jan 07 18:59:33 <Ukto>	too lazy to dig thru  logs
Jan 07 18:59:39 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Jan 07 18:59:42 <kakobrekla>	now im curious
Jan 07 19:00:23 <kakobrekla>	the only one that has simmilar system is betsofbitcoin
Jan 07 19:00:38 <Ukto>	http://betsofbitco.in
Jan 07 19:00:44 <Ukto>	yeah
Jan 07 19:00:44 <kakobrekla>	a.
Jan 07 19:01:02 <kakobrekla>	ya is not the same
Jan 07 19:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063604 = 6.3604 BTC [-]
Jan 07 19:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063603 = 3.9434 BTC [-]
Jan 07 19:01:12 <Ukto>	apparently :P
Jan 07 19:01:28 <Namworld>	Oh, I see it.
Jan 07 19:01:37 <Namworld>	I never read the gribble window =/
Jan 07 19:01:53 <kakobrekla>	well, you are welcome
Jan 07 19:01:55 <kakobrekla>	:p
Jan 07 19:02:04 <Namworld>	When I log in, I get auto-authed
Jan 07 19:02:15 <Namworld>	so the window flash anyway and I don't manually check it.
Jan 07 19:02:28 <Namworld>	I just assume it's my usual authing.
Jan 07 19:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00064339 = 3.796 BTC [+]
Jan 07 19:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065038 = 6.5038 BTC [+]
Jan 07 19:02:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00065039 = 0.5854 BTC [+]
Jan 07 19:03:58 <Namworld>	Why do you ask me to tell BitVPS something? I was not aware BitVPS was a person.
Jan 07 19:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 901 @ 0.00463113 = 4.1726 BTC [-]
Jan 07 19:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 530 @ 0.00463113 = 2.4545 BTC [-]
Jan 07 19:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00464578 = 2.5552 BTC [+]
Jan 07 19:11:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 719 @ 0.00471152 = 3.3876 BTC [+]
Jan 07 19:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3642 @ 0.00063603 = 2.3164 BTC [-]
Jan 07 19:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3435 @ 0.0006352 = 2.1819 BTC [-]
Jan 07 19:19:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2397 @ 0.00464456 = 11.133 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 19:41:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00065039 = 14.4387 BTC [+]
Jan 07 19:42:54 <PeterL>	does S.MPOE or s.dice have a higher market cap?
Jan 07 19:43:07 <pigeons>	stupid hotel dns taking me to Midwest Photo EXchange
Jan 07 19:43:40 <pigeons>	!ticker S.MPOE
Jan 07 19:43:41 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006352 / 0.00064186 / 0.00065144 (256905 shares, 164.90 BTC), 30day: 0.0005119 / 0.00060777 / 0.00066 (53942947 shares, 32,784.98 BTC)
Jan 07 19:43:49 <pigeons>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 07 19:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00463033 / 0.0047888 (110857 shares, 513.30 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334413 / 0.0048 (13774781 shares, 46,064.74 BTC)
Jan 07 19:44:01 <Anduck>	pigeons: try mpex.co, not com
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Jan 07 19:44:20 <pigeons>	yeah tell my browser not to try .com when my dns doesnt answer for .co
Jan 07 19:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1996 @ 0.00464456 = 9.2705 BTC [-]
Jan 07 19:44:29 <Anduck>	:D
Jan 07 19:44:30 <Anduck>	lol
Jan 07 19:44:50 <Anduck>	then use polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php
Jan 07 19:45:50 <pigeons>	that redirects to .co
Jan 07 19:46:09 <pigeons>	which i don't get a dns response for
Jan 07 19:46:15 <pigeons>	so my browser tries .com
Jan 07 19:46:37 <pigeons>	anyway, working now
Jan 07 19:51:35 <Namworld>	Lambert?
Jan 07 19:52:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0046095 = 4.6095 BTC [-]
Jan 07 19:52:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00460951 = 5.0705 BTC [+]
Jan 07 19:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1234 @ 0.00460951 = 5.6881 BTC [+]
Jan 07 19:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 158 @ 0.00471152 = 0.7444 BTC [+]
Jan 07 19:59:37 <PeterL>	What?
Jan 07 19:59:57 <Namworld>	Just wondering if it was you. I recall seeing you around the forums.
Jan 07 20:00:14 <Namworld>	This be a small community indeed.
Jan 07 20:00:17 <PeterL>	Oh,ok. Just me.
Jan 07 20:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10588 @ 0.00065038 = 6.8862 BTC [-]
Jan 07 20:04:19 <Ukto>	PeterL
Jan 07 20:04:20 <Ukto>	still there?
Jan 07 20:04:29 <Ukto>	I was actually just thinking about contacting you
Jan 07 20:05:02 <mircea_popescu>	ok, so if anyone interested, bitbet advertising seems like a decent revenue stream too.
Jan 07 20:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	it works on a rotator model whereby people can send btc and figure proportionally with the total paid.
Jan 07 20:05:41 <mircea_popescu>	all revenue goes to 1CnqxD4NnRsukc1Ni2oZR3ERc2g2WVnqw so it can be easily audited
Jan 07 20:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	so far ~22 btc in there.
Jan 07 20:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons how about .ws ?
Jan 07 20:12:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00473622 = 7.8148 BTC [+]
Jan 07 20:16:01 <pigeons>	everything's working now, .ws too
Jan 07 20:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9412 @ 0.00065038 = 6.1214 BTC [-]
Jan 07 20:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3070 @ 0.00065039 = 1.9967 BTC [+]
Jan 07 20:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9918 @ 0.00065196 = 6.4661 BTC [+]
Jan 07 20:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	was anopther one, i forget
Jan 07 20:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 54 @ 0.192 = 10.368 BTC [+]
Jan 07 20:25:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 296 @ 0.19427821 = 57.5064 BTC [+]
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Jan 07 20:28:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00478879 = 4.7888 BTC [+]
Jan 07 20:28:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0047888 = 7.1832 BTC [+]
Jan 07 20:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00473622 = 1.6577 BTC [-]
Jan 07 20:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 546 @ 0.00473621 = 2.586 BTC [-]
Jan 07 20:36:33 <dub>	forget bitcoins, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2258711/Grime-wave-Surge-theft-Tide-laundry-detergent-used-hard-currency-buy-crack-street.html
Jan 07 20:38:00 *	jcpham stockpiles tide
Jan 07 20:39:32 <abracadabra>	roll tide?
Jan 07 20:40:03 <jcpham>	you saw that touchdown?
Jan 07 20:40:06 <jcpham>	shit is elite
Jan 07 20:40:20 <abracadabra>	they start already?
Jan 07 20:40:22 <abracadabra>	doh
Jan 07 20:40:24 *	abracadabra turns on tv
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Jan 07 20:40:40 <abracadabra>	thought it was at 8pm
Jan 07 20:41:08 <jcpham>	lacy walked in with the first td\
Jan 07 20:41:18 <jcpham>	irish is down
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Jan 07 20:42:43 <dub>	after 25 ass slaps and only 487 minutes of advertising
Jan 07 20:43:15 <jcpham>	ncaa used to not be so bad
Jan 07 20:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 761 @ 0.00472911 = 3.5989 BTC [-]
Jan 07 20:47:55 <abracadabra>	wow
Jan 07 20:47:58 <abracadabra>	some bad calls
Jan 07 20:48:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064354 = 3.2177 BTC [-]
Jan 07 20:49:00 <jcpham>	i may have to get off irc
Jan 07 20:49:06 <jcpham>	and start drinking
Jan 07 20:49:11 <jcpham>	the way this is going
Jan 07 20:52:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20392 @ 0.00064354 = 13.1231 BTC [-]
Jan 07 20:56:01 *	abracadabra thinks jcpham might be a ND fan
Jan 07 20:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064354 = 6.0493 BTC [-]
Jan 07 20:56:26 <jcpham>	nah
Jan 07 20:58:02 <abracadabra>	lol
Jan 07 20:58:04 <abracadabra>	fumble
Jan 07 20:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	dub i bet you the crack you buy for tide has tide in it.
Jan 07 20:58:27 <abracadabra>	game over
Jan 07 20:58:29 <abracadabra>	;)
Jan 07 20:58:59 <abracadabra>	whoa
Jan 07 20:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	everybody http://bitbet.us/browse/ put nfl in and bet :D
Jan 07 20:59:14 <abracadabra>	if they review that and still call it a fumble
Jan 07 20:59:18 <abracadabra>	the game is fixed
Jan 07 20:59:22 <jcpham>	i want t o design a sports book so bad
Jan 07 20:59:44 <jcpham>	that has vegas odds and such
Jan 07 21:00:08 <jcpham>	i just gave someone a million dollar idea
Jan 07 21:00:14 <jcpham>	go forth and multiply
Jan 07 21:01:09 *	abracadabra does IPO for a bitcoin sportsbook
Jan 07 21:01:51 <pigeons>	oh shit, a million dollar idea? i've been waiting for one of those
Jan 07 21:02:47 <pigeons>	do dawg i heard you like tide in your crack
Jan 07 21:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00467825 = 4.2104 BTC [-]
Jan 07 21:05:38 <pigeons>	http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/07/bitpay-banks-500k-in-angel-investment-to-become-paypal-for-bitcoin-already-has-2100-businesses-on-board/
Jan 07 21:06:06 <Dr-G>	nice
Jan 07 21:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham bugpowder was saying the exact sdame thing
Jan 07 21:07:49 <pigeons>	http://cupsandcakesbakery.com/2012/10/buy-cupcakes-with-bitcoins/
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Jan 07 21:13:35 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 07 21:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00464061 / 0.0047888 (117830 shares, 546.80 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334532 / 0.0048 (13784976 shares, 46,115.26 BTC)
Jan 07 21:13:39 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 07 21:13:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.59378, Best ask: 13.63974, Bid-ask spread: 0.04596, Last trade: 13.59377, 24 hour volume: 31951.91670253, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.72999, 24 hour vwap: 13.53367
Jan 07 21:15:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00064354 = 8.173 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 21:19:41 <Bugpowder_>	BREAKOUT
Jan 07 21:19:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00457186 = 9.1437 BTC [-]
Jan 07 21:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 242 @ 0.00457185 = 1.1064 BTC [-]
Jan 07 21:19:49 <Bugpowder_>	thank you for buying the 1302
Jan 07 21:19:53 <Bugpowder_>	130s
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Jan 07 21:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/07/funny-money-pundits-float-1-trillion-coin-as-answer-to-debt-ceiling-standoff/%20?test=latestnews
Jan 07 21:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 07 21:25:08 <Bugpowder>	fox news
Jan 07 21:25:21 <Bugpowder>	is a constant source of worry
Jan 07 21:25:28 <Bugpowder>	for those who like to worry
Jan 07 21:26:06 <Bugpowder>	as I said.... the people who say the most bullshit things get the most press, for a while
Jan 07 21:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 07 21:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	not so sure about that.
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Jan 07 21:34:40 <Bugpowder>	The gov should just start mining coins
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Jan 07 21:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1944 @ 0.0046308 = 9.0023 BTC [+]
Jan 07 21:36:01 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 07 21:36:19 <Bugpowder>	gribbler
Jan 07 21:36:28 <Bugpowder>	whassup?
Jan 07 21:37:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.63401, Best ask: 13.64997, Bid-ask spread: 0.01596, Last trade: 13.63401, 24 hour volume: 31774.26076992, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.72999, 24 hour vwap: 13.53397
Jan 07 21:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00460593 = 11.2845 BTC [-]
Jan 07 21:45:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1346 @ 0.00457186 = 6.1537 BTC [-]
Jan 07 21:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., told Capital New York that the "out of the ordinary" idea could actually work.
Jan 07 21:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	"I'm being absolutely serious," he said. "It sounds silly, but it's absolutely legal."
Jan 07 21:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	dude... legal and works are motherfucking worlds apart
Jan 07 21:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	the best thing the us could do right now is simply have everyone everyone in washington that ever worked for the govt round up and  shot
Jan 07 21:51:54 <Bugpowder>	just some ass that wants his name in print
Jan 07 21:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	way better than some douchy coin
Jan 07 21:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder no see, he;'s not just some ass, he's an elected rep.
Jan 07 21:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	"The likelihood of this happening is about as likely as the checkers scenario. But the argument in its favor is that minting a trillion-dollar coin is a commensurately ridiculous response to Congress refusing to pay debts it has already accumulated. "
Jan 07 21:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	mno.
Jan 07 21:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	this ain't at all the case. congress refusal to lift the ceiling for the 100th time is pretty much the only sane thing going on atm.
Jan 07 21:56:13 <mircea_popescu>	and specifically it was NOT congress that accumulated any debt. it was the obama lackeys
Jan 07 21:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	let him pay them
Jan 07 21:56:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1256 @ 0.0046308 = 5.8163 BTC [+]
Jan 07 21:56:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00465993 = 2.33 BTC [+]
Jan 07 21:56:24 <mircea_popescu>	he has awife, she can work, i'd do 10 bux for a blowjob.
Jan 07 21:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 44 @ 0.00467825 = 0.2058 BTC [+]
Jan 07 22:00:58 <Bugpowder>	BREAKOUT
Jan 07 22:00:59 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 07 22:01:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.68126, Best ask: 13.69898, Bid-ask spread: 0.01772, Last trade: 13.69899, 24 hour volume: 33966.24160877, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.72999, 24 hour vwap: 13.54459
Jan 07 22:01:16 <dub>	fuck that
Jan 07 22:01:24 <Bugpowder>	These are the highest sports bets on betsofbitcoin
Jan 07 22:01:25 <Bugpowder>	http://betsofbitco.in/list?status=available&category=Sports&sorting=-totalBets
Jan 07 22:01:34 <Bugpowder>	this is the middle of the NFL playoffs
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Jan 07 22:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't seem like much
Jan 07 22:02:58 <Bugpowder>	its embarassing
Jan 07 22:03:12 <Bugpowder>	there is over 1BB bet on the playoffs
Jan 07 22:03:20 <Bugpowder>	legally
Jan 07 22:03:33 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin cant get ANY of it?
Jan 07 22:03:43 <Bugpowder>	not even 0.00001%?
Jan 07 22:04:26 <mircea_popescu>	heh well, apparently not quite this year.
Jan 07 22:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	tho, two years ago bitcoin couldn't hardly buy a pizza, so, it's a curve.
Jan 07 22:04:43 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 07 22:04:55 <Bugpowder>	betsofbitcoin had more NFL bets last year
Jan 07 22:05:04 <Bugpowder>	iirc
Jan 07 22:05:23 <Bugpowder>	mostly because I placed them :-P
Jan 07 22:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 22:09:36 <Bugpowder>	13.70
Jan 07 22:12:31 <Bugpowder>	13.71!
Jan 07 22:12:44 <Dr-X>	hm nice
Jan 07 22:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 07 22:14:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.68126, Best ask: 13.68501, Bid-ask spread: 0.00375, Last trade: 13.68125, 24 hour volume: 35430.52112454, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.72999, 24 hour vwap: 13.55233
Jan 07 22:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	low volume tho
Jan 07 22:15:18 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 07 22:15:22 <Bugpowder>	high volume
Jan 07 22:15:41 <Bugpowder>	since it has been goin up at least
Jan 07 22:16:08 <Bugpowder>	not huge
Jan 07 22:16:10 <Bugpowder>	but solid
Jan 07 22:16:34 <Bugpowder>	~5,000/hr
Jan 07 22:16:39 <Bugpowder>	 for the last 8
Jan 07 22:17:22 <Bugpowder>	thats well above the recent average over a timescale of more than 2-3 hours
Jan 07 22:17:35 <Bugpowder>	and I have a feeling its not done
Jan 07 22:17:38 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Jan 07 22:17:44 <Bugpowder>	it IS a monday....
Jan 07 22:17:47 <Bugpowder>	or was
Jan 07 22:18:07 <Bugpowder>	now we just need the S.DICE whales to come back and shit will be rockin
Jan 07 22:18:17 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 07 22:18:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.63591, Best ask: 13.70999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07408, Last trade: 13.63590, 24 hour volume: 36239.15878320, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.72999, 24 hour vwap: 13.55595
Jan 07 22:18:41 <Bugpowder>	Also... approaching the Dec 14th high
Jan 07 22:18:43 <mircea_popescu>	hehe we see
Jan 07 22:19:07 <Bugpowder>	after that, its a post-pirate high
Jan 07 22:20:28 <Bugpowder>	And that was basically an interday high
Jan 07 22:20:35 <Bugpowder>	intraday high
Jan 07 22:21:16 <kakobrekla>	well, express yourself here http://bitbet.us/bet/16/
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Jan 07 22:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064312 = 7.0743 BTC [-]
Jan 07 22:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5517 @ 0.00064311 = 3.548 BTC [-]
Jan 07 22:30:55 <Dr-X>	and hopefully the whale loses, I want dividends
Jan 07 22:31:33 <Dr-X>	there are no profits yet, revenue has been low, except me losing some coins :P
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Jan 07 22:39:07 <Bugpowder>	be patient
Jan 07 22:39:18 <Bugpowder>	its usually a week between appearances
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Jan 07 22:41:23 <Dr-X>	I just dumped my shares on bitfunder, meh :P
Jan 07 22:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4731 @ 0.00064354 = 3.0446 BTC [+]
Jan 07 22:41:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26769 @ 0.00064497 = 17.2652 BTC [+]
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Jan 07 22:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 802 @ 0.00461807 = 3.7037 BTC [-]
Jan 07 22:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 198 @ 0.00457186 = 0.9052 BTC [-]
Jan 07 22:43:16 <Bugpowder>	to do what else with it, exactly?
Jan 07 22:47:21 <Dr-X>	rob the dice
Jan 07 22:47:23 <Dr-X>	;O
Jan 07 22:49:42 <Dr-X>	1.9% profit is too low, stock price too high, price will fall when price to dollar goes up I think, I just had too many... :P
Jan 07 22:51:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3150 @ 0.00464989 = 14.6472 BTC [+]
Jan 07 22:51:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 456 @ 0.00467825 = 2.1333 BTC [+]
Jan 07 22:51:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 771 @ 0.00468222 = 3.61 BTC [+]
Jan 07 22:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5250 @ 0.0046881 = 24.6125 BTC [+]
Jan 07 22:51:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 373 @ 0.00469803 = 1.7524 BTC [+]
Jan 07 22:53:45 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Jan 07 22:53:47 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 215664 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 47 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 7 hours, 22 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3242850.21341859 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.83374821561
Jan 07 22:56:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 07 22:56:47 <Bugpowder>	zorb
Jan 07 22:56:47 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ASPgOv7GL7o
Jan 07 23:06:19 <Dr-X>	who wants to see me cry?
Jan 07 23:07:12 <Dr-X>	20.01337666	WIN	39.16567812	22359 no one good :P
Jan 07 23:08:12 <Dr-X>	I basically just robbed myself
Jan 07 23:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 956 @ 0.00457186 = 4.3707 BTC [-]
Jan 07 23:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1208 @ 0.00457185 = 5.5228 BTC [-]
Jan 07 23:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1036 @ 0.00456935 = 4.7338 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 23:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 864 @ 0.00456935 = 3.9479 BTC [-]
Jan 07 23:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00454441 = 2.7266 BTC [-]
Jan 07 23:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 436 @ 0.00453597 = 1.9777 BTC [-]
Jan 07 23:15:18 <Dr-X>	439.56800000	LOSE	2.19734000	38552
Jan 07 23:15:22 <Dr-X>	holy shit :D
Jan 07 23:15:53 <Namworld>	You just lost to yourself?
Jan 07 23:15:58 <Dr-X>	no wasn't me
Jan 07 23:16:05 <Dr-X>	just saw it ;)
Jan 07 23:16:11 <Namworld>	Well you must be happy then
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Jan 07 23:19:24 <Dr-X>	I won 30, but someone lost over 600 in the last 20 mins
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Jan 07 23:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 399 @ 0.00466557 = 1.8616 BTC [+]
Jan 07 23:24:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1478 @ 0.00469803 = 6.9437 BTC [+]
Jan 07 23:34:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 373 @ 0.00465334 = 1.7357 BTC [-]
Jan 07 23:38:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 288 @ 0.00469803 = 1.353 BTC [+]
Jan 07 23:38:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1459 @ 0.00472911 = 6.8998 BTC [+]
Jan 07 23:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2877 @ 0.00465334 = 13.3877 BTC [-]
Jan 07 23:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 64 @ 0.00453597 = 0.2903 BTC [-]
Jan 07 23:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1959 @ 0.00453419 = 8.8825 BTC [-]
Jan 07 23:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 784 @ 0.00472911 = 3.7076 BTC [+]
Jan 07 23:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1466 @ 0.00473211 = 6.9373 BTC [+]
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Jan 07 23:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 564 @ 0.00457522 = 2.5804 BTC [-]
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Jan 07 23:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00064311 = 1.1788 BTC [-]
Jan 07 23:55:48 <leotreasure>	anybody lost money or bitcoins in Crypto X Change on here?
Jan 07 23:56:12 <leotreasure>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129387.msg1440927#msg1440927
Jan 07 23:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	never used them myself
Jan 07 23:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	did it pack up ?
Jan 07 23:57:21 <leotreasure>	yes
Jan 07 23:57:23 <jcpham>	i also have never used them
Jan 07 23:57:55 <leotreasure>	i'm so pissed about losing $3300
Jan 07 23:58:10 <jcpham>	meh
Jan 07 23:58:13 <leotreasure>	thinking about winding up the company
Jan 07 23:58:23 <jcpham>	that's one moneth's mortgage
Jan 07 23:58:48 <jcpham>	3300 might irritate me
Jan 07 23:59:00 <mircea_popescu>	leotreasure http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/
Jan 07 23:59:16 <jcpham>	i live at the very top of a house of cards
Jan 07 23:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	you have no business keeping too much money on "exchanges"
Jan 07 23:59:35 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham now why'd you do that ? houses of cards are dafty.
Jan 08 00:00:01 <jcpham>	my whole country and culture does it
Jan 08 00:00:06 <jcpham>	i realize it at least
Jan 08 00:00:11 <mircea_popescu>	that's a faggoty excuse
Jan 08 00:00:18 <jcpham>	i'm working on it
Jan 08 00:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	that's much better >D
Jan 08 00:00:25 <jcpham>	it's a process
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Jan 08 00:05:25 <Dr-X>	he could go to a country where suicide is covered by life insurance
Jan 08 00:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	there's such a country ?
Jan 08 00:05:56 <kakobrekla>	aww, shes thinking bout us http://shrani.si/f/19/rN/2d8Tkb6s/think.png
Jan 08 00:06:15 <Dr-X>	yes
Jan 08 00:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	haha kakobrekla
Jan 08 00:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	miiiilk
Jan 08 00:06:31 <Dr-X>	in germany suicide is covered after 3 years, before that only if you're crazy
Jan 08 00:06:39 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu :D
Jan 08 00:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	ridiculous.
Jan 08 00:07:05 <mircea_popescu>	you changed the header tho ?
Jan 08 00:07:32 <kakobrekla>	the logo doesnt go over the banner anymore, no.
Jan 08 00:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Jan 08 00:08:10 <kakobrekla>	i had to do it in the end.
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Jan 08 00:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 08 00:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	i kinda liked it myself, but... yeah. nothing to be done.
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Jan 08 00:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135762189688.jpg << .1 btc to whoever guesses the girl's occupation.
Jan 08 00:12:08 <kakobrekla>	balerina
Jan 08 00:12:40 <kakobrekla>	"ballerina"
Jan 08 00:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	hehe right.
Jan 08 00:13:39 <kakobrekla>	is it not?
Jan 08 00:13:41 <mircea_popescu>	yup.
Jan 08 00:13:44 <mircea_popescu>	addy ?
Jan 08 00:14:30 <kakobrekla>	hm, lets place it on a bet
Jan 08 00:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Jan 08 00:15:43 <kakobrekla>	Send Bitcoins to:
Jan 08 00:15:43 <kakobrekla>	18kjupubYLiCk54XoY4ZReCTGj4NwX7mXU
Jan 08 00:15:43 <kakobrekla>	to bet "Yes" on "Bitcoin below 13.00$ before January 15th, 2013 ".
Jan 08 00:15:43 <kakobrekla>	Your bet will appear in the confirmed bets list shortly after 1st confirmation.
Jan 08 00:16:31 <Dr-X>	Can I bet there without making an account?
Jan 08 00:16:38 <kakobrekla>	yup
Jan 08 00:17:06 <kakobrekla>	there ya go http://bitbet.us/bet/53/
Jan 08 00:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla do the work man. paste the addy here
Jan 08 00:17:40 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu I DID
Jan 08 00:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	a ok nm i didnt see it
Jan 08 00:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	reading from bottom up hehe
Jan 08 00:17:49 <mircea_popescu>	Dr-X yes
Jan 08 00:18:03 <kakobrekla>	'there ya go' was for dr-x
Jan 08 00:19:11 <Dr-X>	cool, checking out the bets. I think I'm calling my relatives from the andromeda galaxy to visit me soon.
Jan 08 00:19:21 <kakobrekla>	:DDD
Jan 08 00:19:29 <kakobrekla>	well
Jan 08 00:19:35 <kakobrekla>	lemme know if they come in time.
Jan 08 00:20:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00471893 = 2.5954 BTC [+]
Jan 08 00:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	one day some of us were chatting and this girl said about her uncle or w/e that they're relatively related.
Jan 08 00:21:31 <Dr-X>	sort for market size would be nice
Jan 08 00:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	there is.
Jan 08 00:21:44 <Dr-X>	to see where's the money at
Jan 08 00:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	click on bitbet logo on the left
Jan 08 00:22:41 <Dr-X>	oh ok
Jan 08 00:22:44 <Dr-X>	good to know
Jan 08 00:22:51 <kakobrekla>	i will add order by bets sum in teh order by field in the browse soonish
Jan 08 00:23:05 <Dr-X>	thx, yeah was searching for that ;)
Jan 08 00:23:08 <kakobrekla>	been buged about this for a couple of times now
Jan 08 00:27:46 <Dr-X>	yeah cool, just made a bet
Jan 08 00:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	thank you for your patronage hehe
Jan 08 00:38:58 <Dr-X>	yeah, just made more. I think I gave you 0.2 for the lulz :P
Jan 08 00:39:39 <kakobrekla>	submit a suggestion for a bet if you come up with something fresh
Jan 08 00:39:52 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 08 00:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.0046243 / 0.0047888 (134087 shares, 620.06 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00334889 / 0.0048 (13823119 shares, 46,292.13 BTC)
Jan 08 00:40:58 <Dr-X>	australian open is soon, so maybe some tennis?
Jan 08 00:41:33 <Bugpowder>	satoshi max bet is up to 500BTC
Jan 08 00:41:38 <Bugpowder>	nice
Jan 08 00:41:49 <kakobrekla>	that could work, especialy if its womens playing
Jan 08 00:41:54 <Dr-X>	14th to 27th january australian open, but idk if you want too many sport bets
Jan 08 00:42:03 <kakobrekla>	will get the interest of mp
Jan 08 00:43:14 <Dr-X>	from what I see sport bets work better than those sily bets ;)
Jan 08 00:43:41 <kakobrekla>	ya lots of bets on the NFL
Jan 08 00:43:56 <kakobrekla>	perhaps tennis will get some traction too
Jan 08 00:44:01 <kakobrekla>	honestly dunno
Jan 08 00:44:08 <Dr-X>	yeah tennis is nice to bet on
Jan 08 00:44:32 <Dr-X>	only two outcomes, not like football
Jan 08 00:44:39 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 08 00:47:10 <Dr-X>	but idk how that works out with weigthed bets
Jan 08 00:47:25 <kakobrekla>	sub obtimally i guess
Jan 08 00:47:39 <kakobrekla>	this weight system is getting reviewed
Jan 08 00:48:12 <Dr-X>	you just bet on both and trade on sport betting sites :P
Jan 08 00:49:33 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder they changed the lucky number thing for better dispersion
Jan 08 00:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	i think the swings are a thing of the past.
Jan 08 00:50:15 <Bugpowder>	yes
Jan 08 00:50:36 <Bugpowder>	glad they raised max bet to compensate
Jan 08 00:50:46 <Bugpowder>	actually
Jan 08 00:50:54 <Bugpowder>	I think you can still get some wild swings
Jan 08 00:51:16 <Bugpowder>	max swing was around 1333 / bet
Jan 08 00:51:33 <Bugpowder>	when they rolled like a 60000
Jan 08 00:51:48 <Bugpowder>	or a <2000
Jan 08 00:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	well you can still bet on under 2 right ?
Jan 08 00:52:05 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 08 00:52:07 <mircea_popescu>	so 64x 500 = 12k ?
Jan 08 00:52:19 <Bugpowder>	probably the variance goes down about 2-3x
Jan 08 00:52:58 <Bugpowder>	414 max at < 1600 is pretty big number
Jan 08 00:53:04 <Bugpowder>	414 max at < 16000 is pretty big number
Jan 08 00:53:14 <Bugpowder>	1242
Jan 08 00:53:20 <Bugpowder>	net gain
Jan 08 00:53:30 <Bugpowder>	sheeit
Jan 08 00:53:59 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 08 00:54:08 <Bugpowder>	its the only place with a bankroll big enough for whales
Jan 08 00:54:13 <Bugpowder>	they have no other place to bet
Jan 08 00:54:17 <Bugpowder>	the rich get richer!
Jan 08 00:55:12 <Bugpowder>	Nice! Somebody bet some more coin on NFL.  http://bitbet.us/bet/49/
Jan 08 00:55:22 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> its the only place with a bankroll big enough for whales << that's what i do.
Jan 08 00:55:59 <Bugpowder>	only dice site
Jan 08 00:56:29 <Dr-X>	if you look for ltc dices, the biggest one accepts 50 LTC lol.
Jan 08 00:56:57 <Dr-X>	max bet
Jan 08 00:57:37 <Bugpowder>	I really set the hook in my friend last night.  Now he's thinking of rolling his 401k into self-directed IRA and putting it in bitcoins :)
Jan 08 00:57:56 <Dr-X>	lol mh
Jan 08 00:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	hahaah
Jan 08 00:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	tho it'd prolly be best if he put half of it
Jan 08 00:59:48 <mircea_popescu>	a third of it
Jan 08 00:59:49 <mircea_popescu>	something.
Jan 08 01:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	the rationale being that 100k put into btc now will make you "just as rich" as 300k put into btc now.
Jan 08 01:00:14 <Dr-X>	you can burn your fingers with bitcoin, if you buying them with hard earned money
Jan 08 01:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand, losing all your money is not the same as losing a third.
Jan 08 01:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 712 @ 0.00471893 = 3.3599 BTC [+]
Jan 08 01:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	Confirmed total: 263 BTC
Jan 08 01:02:13 <mircea_popescu>	this srsly isn't bad.
Jan 08 01:05:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00063621 = 8.0799 BTC [-]
Jan 08 01:07:07 <kakobrekla>	off i go
Jan 08 01:07:08 <kakobrekla>	nite
Jan 08 01:07:17 <Namworld>	night
Jan 08 01:08:18 <Namworld>	If he puts it in SD, might not be such a bad deal. SD will probably remain a major Bitcoin betting site for a long time.
Jan 08 01:08:35 <Namworld>	Hmm... people are really overbidding on BBET.
Jan 08 01:08:55 <Namworld>	Where will be the cheap blocks D=
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Jan 08 01:10:20 <Namworld>	and who buys 1.8 million BBET =P
Jan 08 01:10:38 <Namworld>	At that price...
Jan 08 01:11:19 <Bugpowder>	not the bidder
Jan 08 01:11:34 <Bugpowder>	math don't work rite
Jan 08 01:11:59 <Namworld>	In S.DICE*
Jan 08 01:12:52 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 08 01:13:00 <Bugpowder>	I think he will not roll it all in
Jan 08 01:13:12 <Bugpowder>	probably just put $500 / mo in
Jan 08 01:13:34 <Namworld>	At that price for BBET, 10 million would cost 2775 BTC. BBET would need to get 277 500 BTC in bets to get that back in fees for dividends...
Jan 08 01:13:39 <Namworld>	Damn...
Jan 08 01:13:58 <Bugpowder>	Over the course of its existence
Jan 08 01:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	at the rate it;s going atm, it will do that in ~10 years
Jan 08 01:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	not counting advertising revenue
Jan 08 01:14:21 <mircea_popescu>	o im sorry. 1000 days not 10 years. 3 years.
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Jan 08 01:14:34 <Bugpowder>	Man, my matlab bet optimizer doesn't handle the time decay
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Jan 08 01:14:39 <Namworld>	Hmm, still quite some time.
Jan 08 01:14:47 <Namworld>	Advertising revenue eh?
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Jan 08 01:14:58 <mircea_popescu>	this discussion reminds me of s.dice cca august.
Jan 08 01:15:06 <Dr-X>	and what happens if the bitcoin price in dollar rises? price of the stock goes down?
Jan 08 01:15:11 <Namworld>	Maybe either BitVPS or Namworld could sponsor an ad on BBET.
Jan 08 01:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	Dr-X hasn't happened to far.
Jan 08 01:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	s,mpoe went up like 3000% while the btc went up like 300% in dollars.
Jan 08 01:15:46 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld not a bad idea. it's a pay as much as you want 30 days rotator deal.
Jan 08 01:15:48 <Dr-X>	hm ok ;)
Jan 08 01:16:00 <Namworld>	Interesting.
Jan 08 01:16:03 <Dr-X>	so you're rich now, congratz :D
Jan 08 01:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	Dr-X they're purely btc businesses. the dollar don't enter into it.
Jan 08 01:16:39 <Namworld>	People seem to bet just as much BTC when it's 1$ per BTC or if it's 20$ per BTC
Jan 08 01:16:50 <Namworld>	They just bet it.
Jan 08 01:17:04 <Dr-X>	If I have 50 BTC and my goal is more money and more BTC what do I do?
Jan 08 01:17:47 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 08 01:17:47 <Namworld>	Buy some S.DICE
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Jan 08 01:17:57 <Bugpowder>	BREAKOUT
Jan 08 01:17:59 <Namworld>	or something like that.
Jan 08 01:18:05 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 08 01:18:14 <Namworld>	BREAKOUT: Gribble Edition
Jan 08 01:18:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.68386, Best ask: 13.81000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12614, Last trade: 13.81000, 24 hour volume: 41310.15984901, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.81000, 24 hour vwap: 13.59046
Jan 08 01:18:53 <Dr-X>	yeah, but my fear is that the price of the share will go down, when the price per btc goes up
Jan 08 01:19:28 <Namworld>	Hmm, than that makes it more USD safe, but you'd earn less if BTC prices rise.
Jan 08 01:20:06 <Dr-X>	how do value a company, it is worth 500k btc and 6,500,000 dollar (easier to calculate)
Jan 08 01:20:36 <Bugpowder>	It had $230,000 in profit last month
Jan 08 01:20:44 <Bugpowder>	PROFIT
Jan 08 01:20:44 <Namworld>	Well I guess you'd value it on revenue.
Jan 08 01:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00474805 = 3.561 BTC [+]
Jan 08 01:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00476255 = 6.4294 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 01:21:07 <Dr-X>	no growth assumed when the price per btc doubles it will be worth 250k btc and 6,500,000 dollarz?
Jan 08 01:21:18 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how many irl businesses are still making profit
Jan 08 01:21:21 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin prices went up
Jan 08 01:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	not ebidta bs window washing
Jan 08 01:21:28 <Bugpowder>	volume went up
Jan 08 01:21:31 <Namworld>	mircea, most of them?
Jan 08 01:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i doubt it.
Jan 08 01:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	5th year of worldwide recession
Jan 08 01:21:49 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu IRL corporations are actually making shitloads right now
Jan 08 01:21:51 <Namworld>	At least when excluding small businesses
Jan 08 01:21:54 <mircea_popescu>	i'd be surprised if there's a thousand left.
Jan 08 01:21:58 <Bugpowder>	CMI
Jan 08 01:22:22 <Bugpowder>	Corp balanace sheets are basically all time healthiest
Jan 08 01:22:24 <Namworld>	I'd be surprised if there was less than a million left...
Jan 08 01:22:34 <Bugpowder>	except those with financial exposure
Jan 08 01:22:39 <Bugpowder>	financials
Jan 08 01:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder not if you properly account for the currency risk
Jan 08 01:22:46 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 08 01:22:49 <mircea_popescu>	>D
Jan 08 01:22:53 <Dr-X>	they do too, bank stocks are the best right now
Jan 08 01:23:13 <Bugpowder>	The banks are all bankrupt
Jan 08 01:23:18 <Namworld>	We're not in a catastrophic recession. Many businesses cut jobs or make less profits.
Jan 08 01:23:30 <Bugpowder>	but... they probably won't fail
Jan 08 01:23:40 <mircea_popescu>	and that pretty much says the whole story.
Jan 08 01:23:42 <Namworld>	But most shops, corp, etc you see all around still make a profit.
Jan 08 01:23:47 <Bugpowder>	SP500 earnings are very very high right now
Jan 08 01:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	no, they won't fail, they just poison the economy with worthless receipts
Jan 08 01:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	pirate style.
Jan 08 01:23:52 <Bugpowder>	very efficient
Jan 08 01:23:54 <Dr-X>	no they're not bankrupt, they have a shitload of own equity
Jan 08 01:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	basically this is exactly btc economy cca july : everyone's balance sheets were all time flush with cash
Jan 08 01:24:18 <Bugpowder>	the banks have a shitload of bad loans that are not being marked to market
Jan 08 01:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	except not really.
Jan 08 01:24:31 <Bugpowder>	although much has be given to fed at par
Jan 08 01:24:35 <Bugpowder>	as collatoral
Jan 08 01:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	plenty of dead walking, and it's impossible not to do business with them
Jan 08 01:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, i could do it in btc, cause it's small and people are idiots
Jan 08 01:24:58 <mircea_popescu>	irl i couldn't do it, and so i assume nobody else can either.
Jan 08 01:25:02 <Bugpowder>	Dude, China is still growing at 7%
Jan 08 01:25:06 <mircea_popescu>	pff.
Jan 08 01:25:10 <Bugpowder>	you are way to pessimistic
Jan 08 01:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	the news i see from china are pretty bad.
Jan 08 01:25:18 <Bugpowder>	on global corp health
Jan 08 01:25:26 <Dr-X>	good fiat economy is bad for him :P
Jan 08 01:25:27 <mircea_popescu>	they're getting riots almost on par with the us by now.
Jan 08 01:26:13 <Namworld>	But in Canada everything is fine.
Jan 08 01:26:35 <mircea_popescu>	Dr-X thing is i was of the same persuasion before discovering btc.
Jan 08 01:27:10 <Bugpowder>	http://www.multpl.com
Jan 08 01:27:21 <Bugpowder>	US?
Jan 08 01:27:24 <Bugpowder>	riots?
Jan 08 01:27:26 <Bugpowder>	where?
Jan 08 01:27:26 <Dr-X>	some bets on satoshi show up 3 times in recent
Jan 08 01:28:36 <Namworld>	Everything is always fine in Canada... nothing much happening. Just people saying "Eh?" all the time and mooses.
Jan 08 01:30:36 <mircea_popescu>	isn't it meece ?
Jan 08 01:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder occupy movements, whatever.
Jan 08 01:32:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00471893 = 18.8757 BTC [-]
Jan 08 01:33:43 <Bugpowder>	Compared to the race riots of the 60s and 70s, I think we are doing pretty damn well
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Jan 08 01:34:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1838 @ 0.00471893 = 8.6734 BTC [-]
Jan 08 01:34:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 162 @ 0.00469917 = 0.7613 BTC [-]
Jan 08 01:34:21 <Bugpowder>	Whole Foods opening stores in downtown Detroit yo
Jan 08 01:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 08 01:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't mean the us is particularly turmoily
Jan 08 01:34:57 <mircea_popescu>	i meant that it's outrageous for china
Jan 08 01:35:56 <Bugpowder>	China doing pretty well compared to 70s as well
Jan 08 01:37:28 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Jan 08 01:37:31 <mircea_popescu>	back then they were poor.
Jan 08 01:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	they had no alternative.
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Jan 08 01:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10020 @ 0.0006352 = 6.3647 BTC [-]
Jan 08 01:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00063517 = 7.368 BTC [-]
Jan 08 01:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00063412 = 6.468 BTC [-]
Jan 08 01:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 280 @ 0.00063358 = 0.1774 BTC [-]
Jan 08 01:43:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14352 @ 0.00063358 = 9.0931 BTC [-]
Jan 08 01:43:24 <Namworld>	Possible, my english might not be that good.
Jan 08 01:49:52 <midnightmagic>	Canada is not fine. The moron voting public voted in Harper based on promises of infrastructure investment which haven't materialized, and now we have a rapidly deteriorating legislature which consists of a bunch of idealogical idiots essentially ignoring the entire canadian public and dismantling some of our most cherished institutions and rights.
Jan 08 01:50:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol i was waiting for this
Jan 08 01:50:26 <midnightmagic>	Meanwhile, their own f*cking MPs are DM'ing people like myself and mocking us because we said they were going to be toast in the next election.
Jan 08 01:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic, go make a bet! --> http://bitbet.us
Jan 08 01:50:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00469917 = 3.7593 BTC [-]
Jan 08 01:50:40 <midnightmagic>	"our" own MPs.
Jan 08 01:51:12 <midnightmagic>	I no longer have confidence, since making that statement, that my fellow voters are capable of a rational voting decision.
Jan 08 01:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	voters never are and never were capable of rational decision. that's not how voting works.
Jan 08 01:51:35 <mod6>	^^^^
Jan 08 01:51:57 <mod6>	baaaaaa.
Jan 08 01:52:11 <midnightmagic>	It has in the past. Additionally, at least some people are voting with their ideals because Elizabeth May made it in.
Jan 08 01:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	for that matter, women don't pick men rationally either.
Jan 08 01:52:30 <midnightmagic>	now there's a true f'ing statement if i ever heard one.
Jan 08 01:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	voting is just a cheap method of statistically obtaining a call from the multitude.
Jan 08 01:52:58 <mod6>	people usually vote their wallets, and additionally always pick the precived winner before hand.  voters don't like to vote for a loser, even if that candidate is more closely aligned with their political philosiphies.
Jan 08 01:53:14 <midnightmagic>	Here, each vote *used* to deliver some small amount of federal funding to the party voted for as a way of fostering independent third parties.
Jan 08 01:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	it's not rational, it's quite the opposite. but it has a historical record of conservation success.
Jan 08 01:53:41 <midnightmagic>	mod6: Apparently some of us do like to vote for a loser. Elizabeth May is in office. :)
Jan 08 01:53:50 <mod6>	HEHEH
Jan 08 01:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	now i have to look up who that is
Jan 08 01:54:20 <midnightmagic>	I saw her grand-daughters bare ass at a dinner once. she was wearing a mini-skirt and kept hugging people taller than she is.
Jan 08 01:54:36 <midnightmagic>	(highschool grad)
Jan 08 01:54:43 <midnightmagic>	Super uncomfortable dinner.
Jan 08 01:54:47 <mircea_popescu>	why lol
Jan 08 01:54:50 <mod6>	HAHAH
Jan 08 01:55:09 <midnightmagic>	Why was it uncomfortable?
Jan 08 01:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	sure. you can't eat with women you've seen the ass of ?
Jan 08 01:56:24 <midnightmagic>	Bare asses of unknown other people mean bare asses are sitting on the seats I sit in. It reminded me of how unhygienic being out for dinner is and I like to suspend my disbelief for a little while.
Jan 08 01:57:07 <midnightmagic>	Also it was classless for the grand-daughter of the leader of one of the main political parties in Canada to dress like that.
Jan 08 01:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	seriously!?
Jan 08 01:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	she's a teen! she's supposed to go around barebutt
Jan 08 01:57:33 <mod6>	haha, wow. i probably wouldt have given it a second thought. i must be a savage.
Jan 08 01:58:23 <midnightmagic>	It either meant she was conscious of her dress choice, or not. If she wasn't, then it was uncomfortable watching her accidentally and apparently unconciously bare her ass seven or eight times.
Jan 08 01:58:35 <mod6>	lol
Jan 08 01:59:25 <mod6>	people are just attention whores these das.
Jan 08 01:59:29 <mod6>	*days
Jan 08 01:59:35 <midnightmagic>	If she was, then..  why? Who's her audience? A bunch of stuffy people at a calm atmosphere restaurant where people are coming in from the cold (it was damn cold) and eating soup in their flannels?
Jan 08 01:59:35 <mircea_popescu>	you actually care tghat you're sitting where some other chick sat ?!
Jan 08 01:59:39 <midnightmagic>	lol
Jan 08 02:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	her audience is simply the world. she's not old enough to know y'all aren't worth the trouble yet.
Jan 08 02:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	you should be flattered.
Jan 08 02:00:19 <midnightmagic>	Meanwhile, it was like none of the rest of her family noticed that they were making everyone uncomfortable.
Jan 08 02:00:28 <midnightmagic>	Yeah, in that sense it was f'ing awesome.
Jan 08 02:00:59 <midnightmagic>	And in the sense that the leader of some political party has raised a family to be essentially unfettered, dress-wise.
Jan 08 02:01:05 <midnightmagic>	That I appreciated.
Jan 08 02:01:11 <mod6>	Well, does anyone remember the bush daughters? LOL
Jan 08 02:01:24 <midnightmagic>	Were they all racy too?
Jan 08 02:01:29 <mod6>	omg
Jan 08 02:01:30 <midnightmagic>	I don't remember them so much..
Jan 08 02:01:38 <mod6>	lmao
Jan 08 02:01:57 <midnightmagic>	lol
Jan 08 02:02:07 <mircea_popescu>	one of them took off her underwear in public once
Jan 08 02:02:11 <mircea_popescu>	put something else on
Jan 08 02:02:34 <midnightmagic>	whoah
Jan 08 02:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	classless lol.
Jan 08 02:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	you live in the colonies. what class ?
Jan 08 02:03:33 <midnightmagic>	Ever been to Canada?
Jan 08 02:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	for about two hours once, off nh
Jan 08 02:04:38 <midnightmagic>	:P
Jan 08 02:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	i was jus' ribbin ye a little.
Jan 08 02:04:48 <midnightmagic>	so, quiet, you and your colonies references.
Jan 08 02:04:58 <midnightmagic>	i know
Jan 08 02:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	im sure canada is just as classless as the rest of the world, that's what we have the internet for
Jan 08 02:05:07 <midnightmagic>	^^ that
Jan 08 02:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	classlessness uniformity.
Jan 08 02:05:30 <midnightmagic>	people used to punch out other people for being classless. manners made it around pretty good.
Jan 08 02:05:59 <mircea_popescu>	nobody punched anybody over class lol. at most they furrowed their brows and whined privately.
Jan 08 02:06:38 <midnightmagic>	no way. Not much earlier than my grandfather's era, ignoring someone who said hello to you was a punch-out-able offence.
Jan 08 02:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	but going around punching people is not too classy now is it.
Jan 08 02:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00476255 = 8.0963 BTC [+]
Jan 08 02:08:30 <midnightmagic>	Sure. People were admired for their fists.
Jan 08 02:08:48 <midnightmagic>	Righteous fisticuffs.
Jan 08 02:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	i guess if you can't afford a rapier or w/e
Jan 08 02:09:55 <midnightmagic>	right. black eyes heal. Put the boxing gloves on and get your differences out in the open. Did you ever see the Mickey Mouse club episodes where they put two fighting boys in the ring together and let them duke it out?
Jan 08 02:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	i never saw mickey mouse club at all
Jan 08 02:11:06 <midnightmagic>	I was wide-eyed shocked when I saw that.
Jan 08 02:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	but i know i resented at that age the implication of equality in this method
Jan 08 02:11:19 <midnightmagic>	And then my dad started telling me stories of grandpa.. :)
Jan 08 02:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	i always had my differences resolved by overwhelming forcve.
Jan 08 02:11:39 <midnightmagic>	different times man
Jan 08 02:11:49 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so
Jan 08 02:13:23 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: So! Got anything you're actively ranting about lately?
Jan 08 02:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/whats-a-rogue-state/ like ?
Jan 08 02:14:10 <midnightmagic>	Bitcoin-related?
Jan 08 02:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/ ok try that then
Jan 08 02:18:39 <midnightmagic>	Woops, "begging the question" doesn't mean "raising the question".
Jan 08 02:18:54 *	midnightmagic is sorry and couldn't help it
Jan 08 02:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 08 02:22:03 <midnightmagic>	geh..  Voorhees is such a weird gonzo
Jan 08 02:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol ?
Jan 08 02:23:10 <midnightmagic>	We'll see what happens to sdice when asic are delivered.. :-)
Jan 08 02:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	there's a relation ?
Jan 08 02:23:30 <midnightmagic>	I hope so!
Jan 08 02:23:36 <midnightmagic>	Future-tense.
Jan 08 02:23:43 <mircea_popescu>	what'd it be ?
Jan 08 02:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/40/ btw.
Jan 08 02:24:31 <midnightmagic>	Redistribution of hashrate, in some cases to people who care what happens with the blockchain.
Jan 08 02:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 08 02:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	im not too concerned about miners deciding to ruin bitcoin.
Jan 08 02:25:46 <midnightmagic>	Not ruin it.
Jan 08 02:26:17 <mod6>	its kinda like rg said once, if bitcoin can't handle the tx's from SD, then we should pack up and shut off the lights now.
Jan 08 02:26:30 <mircea_popescu>	the moment bitcoin is not transaction agnostic it might as well be dead.
Jan 08 02:26:32 <mod6>	but... that doesn't mean there couldn't be a better way to do it either.
Jan 08 02:26:36 <midnightmagic>	but sdice operates inside the txn space, which makes it easy to filter. If they operated the way everyone else normal does, and stopped doing those stupid micro-txn, then meh.
Jan 08 02:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	who do you think wants to ask miners' permission ?
Jan 08 02:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00476255 = 1.4288 BTC [+]
Jan 08 02:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0047638 = 3.3347 BTC [+]
Jan 08 02:27:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1159 @ 0.00476484 = 5.5224 BTC [+]
Jan 08 02:27:06 <midnightmagic>	it can. but there isn't enough incentive due to concentration of txn value. also, rg isn't really much of an authority :)
Jan 08 02:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1841 @ 0.00477167 = 8.7846 BTC [+]
Jan 08 02:27:30 <mod6>	midnightmagic: no. but he said it, and I agree :)
Jan 08 02:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	this is just posturing on the strength of the block reward being still large-ish
Jan 08 02:27:46 <mod6>	just giving credit where due, etc.
Jan 08 02:28:07 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: the value of keeping sdice txn in the blockchain is less than the value of keeping diffuse txn in the blockchain, including mixnets btw.
Jan 08 02:28:31 <midnightmagic>	and miners are the ones who set fee structures.
Jan 08 02:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	this is a moot question
Jan 08 02:28:41 <midnightmagic>	that is part of the whole nature of bitcoin.
Jan 08 02:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	nobody's to evaluate the value of keeping a tx in the blockchain
Jan 08 02:28:48 <mircea_popescu>	other than the issuer of the tx.
Jan 08 02:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	miners stick with this or get lost.
Jan 08 02:29:17 <midnightmagic>	that's not true. :)
Jan 08 02:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	hey, it's the exact standard
Jan 08 02:29:39 <mircea_popescu>	but you're welcome to establish it through experience if simple theory doesn't cut it for ya.
Jan 08 02:29:53 <midnightmagic>	the exact standard has fees, and the code has anti-dust-spam exceptions in it. satoshi foresaw operations like sdice.
Jan 08 02:29:59 <mod6>	*whew* almost forgot that mtdew in the freezer
Jan 08 02:29:59 <midnightmagic>	hah, lol.
Jan 08 02:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	i guess at some point the split between the people who matter and the people who think they know better is inevitable
Jan 08 02:30:44 <mircea_popescu>	contrary to what the people who think they know better think, their fall into oblivion will be immediate.
Jan 08 02:31:04 <midnightmagic>	let other people who don't care, mine sdice txn, and take the hit to block propagation. the incentive is against including sdice txn in the blockchain.
Jan 08 02:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, i guess time will tell.
Jan 08 02:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	the incentive really is against including miners who don't ihnclude transactions into bitcoin.
Jan 08 02:31:53 <midnightmagic>	that's not true. even miners who do *no* txn in their blocks are still burying txn in work.
Jan 08 02:32:11 <midnightmagic>	they're still securing the blockchain.
Jan 08 02:32:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00477167 = 2.6244 BTC [+]
Jan 08 02:32:29 <mircea_popescu>	you'll at some point have to come to terms with the cold reality that about half of bitcoin's utility atm is s.dice
Jan 08 02:32:49 <mircea_popescu>	i know you like bitcoin in principle. but in practical terms, it's useless other than because its that thing where sdice happens.
Jan 08 02:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	"not including" the filling in the donut is pracrtically speaking not including yourself among the donut makers.
Jan 08 02:33:33 <mircea_popescu>	because donuts WILL be made.
Jan 08 02:34:01 <midnightmagic>	lol hilarious analogy. But! Are they Tim Horton's doughnuts, or Krispy Kremes?
Jan 08 02:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	apparently they're E Vor Hee's
Jan 08 02:34:25 <midnightmagic>	man fuck that guy.. lol
Jan 08 02:35:35 <mircea_popescu>	he's amusing to me because looky here : the consensus was that mining corps are the big deal.
Jan 08 02:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	out of nowhere comes this dood, and suddenly his corp is larger than all the asic producers together
Jan 08 02:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	and makes more revenue to boot.
Jan 08 02:35:58 <midnightmagic>	it was?
Jan 08 02:36:05 <mircea_popescu>	completely blindsides market, it's hysterical to watch reactions etc.
Jan 08 02:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	well yes it was. glbse practically consisted of pirate passthroughs and mining farms.
Jan 08 02:36:40 <midnightmagic>	good lord no. ASIC producers are internally parasitic. The value derives from a parasitic self-consumption of economic worth.
Jan 08 02:37:18 <mircea_popescu>	the what ?!
Jan 08 02:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3700 @ 0.00477167 = 17.6552 BTC [+]
Jan 08 02:39:17 <mod6>	hmmm
Jan 08 02:40:06 <midnightmagic>	Ah, that's not consensus.
Jan 08 02:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	mh
Jan 08 02:40:54 <midnightmagic>	The what what..?
Jan 08 02:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	i dunnop lol
Jan 08 02:41:33 <midnightmagic>	The value of mining is a finite value and can't exceed some fraction of the value of the bitcoin economy..
Jan 08 02:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Jan 08 02:41:53 <midnightmagic>	It's cannibalizing some of its own worth in order to secure itself.
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Jan 08 02:42:48 <midnightmagic>	"securing itself" includes disincentivizing b-s like the DDoS that sdice is. :-)
Jan 08 02:42:58 <midnightmagic>	imo..
Jan 08 02:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	nah, asic (real asic) is actual research.
Jan 08 02:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	the bs going on currently is cannibalizing some of btc's perception for private gain
Jan 08 02:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like someone selling haagen dasz icecream made in nj as "classy" yurpean stuff.
Jan 08 02:44:11 <midnightmagic>	the funding for the research can't happen if selling bitcoin rewards doesn't support it though..
Jan 08 02:44:26 <midnightmagic>	yeah i don't understand that. there's a simple metric to finding the best ice cream in a store..
Jan 08 02:44:39 <midnightmagic>	weigh it and calculate density.
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Jan 08 02:44:43 <mircea_popescu>	sure it can. research that's not justified economically happens all the time
Jan 08 02:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	it's what research actually is, for that matter.
Jan 08 02:45:01 <midnightmagic>	ah, usually that's publically-funded though.
Jan 08 02:45:09 <midnightmagic>	s/usually/often/
Jan 08 02:45:12 <mod6>	lol: (23:44) < midnightmagic> weigh it and calculate density. <<< don't you just go by flavor?
Jan 08 02:45:23 <midnightmagic>	mod6: that comes next.
Jan 08 02:45:30 <mod6>	oh.
Jan 08 02:45:34 <mod6>	srry.
Jan 08 02:45:41 <midnightmagic>	mod6: And no, I refuse to buy whipped-air ice cream. It's inferior quality.
Jan 08 02:46:09 <midnightmagic>	mod6: Notice they sell ice cream by volume. Which really cheeses me off. But the denser it is, the more cream:air ratio it has.
Jan 08 02:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	you ever been to europe ?
Jan 08 02:46:32 <midnightmagic>	who me?
Jan 08 02:47:10 <midnightmagic>	I've always wanted to.
Jan 08 02:47:25 <mircea_popescu>	yeah well, that's the icecream metric.
Jan 08 02:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	have some proper gelato.
Jan 08 02:47:50 <midnightmagic>	I've had proper gelato.
Jan 08 02:48:09 <mod6>	thats like an ICEE right?
Jan 08 02:48:19 <midnightmagic>	I make ice cream; I used to sell it by the tonne. 1 metric tonne every two weeks or so.
Jan 08 02:48:24 <midnightmagic>	Scopped out into cones..
Jan 08 02:48:42 <mod6>	you make 1 metric ton of icecream per week?
Jan 08 02:48:49 <mod6>	err two weeks?!
Jan 08 02:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	oh ok then
Jan 08 02:48:59 <mod6>	hahah, do you run a ice cream parlor?
Jan 08 02:49:05 *	mircea_popescu wonders how much midnightmagic weighs
Jan 08 02:49:06 <midnightmagic>	No, I sold 1 metric tonne of ice cream every two weeks, scooped out by myself. I was very young.
Jan 08 02:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	by volume
Jan 08 02:49:26 <midnightmagic>	I make my own ice cream because so much of it sucks in the stores and nobody knows any different.
Jan 08 02:49:31 <mod6>	wow
Jan 08 02:49:46 <pigeons>	i used to be a fax server when i was young
Jan 08 02:49:53 <mod6>	home made icecream is better if i recall, i haven't had it in about 25 years.
Jan 08 02:50:01 <mod6>	lol pigeons
Jan 08 02:50:04 <midnightmagic>	lol awesome
Jan 08 02:50:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3850 @ 0.00469917 = 18.0918 BTC [-]
Jan 08 02:50:50 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: In the big 20L containers, if there's air in there it melts more rapidly and nobody will buy it.
Jan 08 02:51:05 <midnightmagic>	i miss access to those things. they're really great for berry picking.
Jan 08 02:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol this guy's a bear.
Jan 08 02:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	on the internet nobody knows. except one can guess.
Jan 08 02:51:37 <mod6>	im like O.o
Jan 08 02:52:02 <mod6>	this guy picks berries, makes 2 ton vats of ice cream and still finds time to hang in -assets!
Jan 08 02:52:13 <midnightmagic>	lol no, when I was younger.
Jan 08 02:52:14 <mircea_popescu>	you forgot highschooler butt
Jan 08 02:52:19 <mod6>	hahah
Jan 08 02:52:21 <midnightmagic>	well that was just a few months ago.
Jan 08 02:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	when you were also younger
Jan 08 02:53:28 <midnightmagic>	technically i guess.
Jan 08 02:53:57 <midnightmagic>	mod6: You don't pick berries?
Jan 08 02:54:48 <mod6>	well, actually, this year I did for the first time in many years.  I was just thinking about that... kinda nice and quiet -- except for the damn bees.
Jan 08 02:54:49 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think it's legal in his country
Jan 08 02:55:08 <midnightmagic>	:) I knew it.
Jan 08 02:55:22 <mod6>	I had a female prodding me to leave the house/computer and do some berry picking.  worked out well, got some nice ones.
Jan 08 02:55:53 <mod6>	i did my best to look like i was enjoying myself actually.
Jan 08 02:56:02 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: You should come out and pick berries with me. It's like meditating, and at the end we make pie.
Jan 08 02:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	maybe after the collapse of the us i visit that corner of the world again
Jan 08 02:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2038 @ 0.00469917 = 9.5769 BTC [-]
Jan 08 02:56:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 962 @ 0.00468133 = 4.5034 BTC [-]
Jan 08 02:57:13 <mod6>	Yeah. I'm hoping that comes soon, because shit is way too far out of wack over here.
Jan 08 02:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	decade-ish
Jan 08 02:58:57 <mod6>	It's hard to enjoy anything these days.  Songs on the radio, tv shows, holidays... all seem to be overshaowed by the darkining war clouds.
Jan 08 02:59:01 <midnightmagic>	mod6: You sound like maybe you're east-coast?
Jan 08 02:59:18 <mod6>	na. i hate the east coast.
Jan 08 02:59:26 <mod6>	no offense east coast! lo
Jan 08 02:59:27 <mod6>	l
Jan 08 02:59:46 <mod6>	but im from Minnesota, and I spent a large amount of time in Arizona.
Jan 08 02:59:48 <midnightmagic>	mod6: Aw. I was going to ask if you've seen any wintergreens the last few years. I remember them being exceedingly rare.
Jan 08 03:00:28 <mod6>	Hmm, not sure what those are.
Jan 08 03:00:41 <midnightmagic>	mod6: Ever had wint-o-green lifesavers?
Jan 08 03:00:57 <mod6>	I've been to the east coast a number of times.  The only thing I learned while there is everyone is a larger asshole than back home, and no one stops for red lights.
Jan 08 03:01:21 <mod6>	Oh, yeah. Those are good. :)
Jan 08 03:02:04 <midnightmagic>	mod6: That's a little like what the berries taste like.
Jan 08 03:02:55 <mod6>	ohh right on.  here I just picked some rasberries. the apples wernt ready sadly.
Jan 08 03:03:04 <midnightmagic>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintergreen
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Jan 08 03:03:20 <midnightmagic>	very very rare, they grow at the base of certain trees.
Jan 08 03:04:00 <mod6>	Wow, I had no idea.
Jan 08 03:04:05 <mod6>	Check this out: During the American Revolution, wintergreen leaves were used as a substitute for tea, which was scarce.
Jan 08 03:04:16 <mod6>	cool.
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Jan 08 03:05:30 <pigeons>	picking berries on the east coast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_drink
Jan 08 03:05:32 <midnightmagic>	delicious. if you ever get a chance, try one or two of the berries. transcendent flavour experience. :)
Jan 08 03:10:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00475368 = 2.8522 BTC [+]
Jan 08 03:14:04 <mod6>	this thing says its posion lol
Jan 08 03:14:05 <mod6>	Danger:
Jan 08 03:14:06 <mod6>	Parts of plant are poisonous if ingested
Jan 08 03:16:05 <mod6>	One thing that I like about Canada: Formitable Hockey Players.
Jan 08 03:16:35 <mod6>	Every now and then I would have to travel to winnepeg to play the teams up there.  Those guys were huge and almost as mean as me.
Jan 08 03:17:05 <mod6>	Always seems like the american teams we played were some real candyasses.
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Jan 08 03:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 284 @ 0.00063358 = 0.1799 BTC [-]
Jan 08 03:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14459 @ 0.00063333 = 9.1573 BTC [-]
Jan 08 03:25:26 <pigeons>	the difference between poison and medicine is dosage and intended effect
Jan 08 03:25:48 <pigeons>	www.newser.com/story/151233/telling-an-italian-he-has-no-balls-is-now-a-crime.html
Jan 08 03:26:44 <mod6>	haha
Jan 08 03:27:56 <mod6>	its amazing what laws get passed in a "modern" society
Jan 08 03:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3057 @ 0.00475368 = 14.532 BTC [+]
Jan 08 03:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 559 @ 0.00477167 = 2.6674 BTC [+]
Jan 08 03:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 234 @ 0.004787 = 1.1202 BTC [+]
Jan 08 03:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.004787 = 16.7545 BTC [+]
Jan 08 03:34:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10729 @ 0.00063333 = 6.795 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 03:36:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1688 @ 0.00467584 = 7.8928 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 03:53:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4553 @ 0.00063333 = 2.8836 BTC [-]
Jan 08 03:55:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 512 @ 0.00467584 = 2.394 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 04:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00463424 = 11.1222 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 04:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00471149 = 18.846 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 04:34:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1645 @ 0.00462812 = 7.6133 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 04:40:24 <EskimoBob>	what's new?
Jan 08 04:41:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00063368 = 6.8437 BTC [+]
Jan 08 04:41:42 <Namworld>	Not much
Jan 08 04:41:57 <Namworld>	Just setting up other products in my WHMCS
Jan 08 04:42:53 <Anduck>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 08 04:42:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00464016 / 0.0047888 (169402 shares, 786.05 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00335395 / 0.0048 (13874482 shares, 46,534.40 BTC)
Jan 08 04:48:04 <EskimoBob>	WHMCS?
Jan 08 04:49:31 <Namworld>	Billing software
Jan 08 04:49:35 <Namworld>	Very neat.
Jan 08 04:51:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 542 @ 0.00462812 = 2.5084 BTC [-]
Jan 08 04:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15059 @ 0.00063333 = 9.5373 BTC [-]
Jan 08 04:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10941 @ 0.00063289 = 6.9244 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 05:06:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00462158 = 13.4026 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 05:36:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00462158 = 6.4702 BTC [-]
Jan 08 05:39:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00462158 = 5.777 BTC [-]
Jan 08 05:39:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00458928 = 5.7366 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 05:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 58 @ 0.00462273 = 0.2681 BTC [+]
Jan 08 05:46:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00471149 = 0.9423 BTC [+]
Jan 08 05:47:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2042 @ 0.00473359 = 9.666 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 05:51:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1425 @ 0.00063368 = 0.903 BTC [+]
Jan 08 05:51:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2342 @ 0.00063621 = 1.49 BTC [+]
Jan 08 05:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17133 @ 0.00063714 = 10.9161 BTC [+]
Jan 08 05:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 751 @ 0.00462361 = 3.4723 BTC [-]
Jan 08 05:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 799 @ 0.00473665 = 3.7846 BTC [+]
Jan 08 06:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2009 @ 0.00063289 = 1.2715 BTC [-]
Jan 08 06:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6691 @ 0.00063282 = 4.2342 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 06:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2751 @ 0.00473665 = 13.0305 BTC [+]
Jan 08 06:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 172 @ 0.00473719 = 0.8148 BTC [+]
Jan 08 06:12:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00473719 = 5.4478 BTC [+]
Jan 08 06:22:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8534 @ 0.00063714 = 5.4374 BTC [+]
Jan 08 06:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.0006385 = 0.205 BTC [+]
Jan 08 06:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00472647 = 2.8359 BTC [-]
Jan 08 06:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00468759 = 7.0314 BTC [-]
Jan 08 06:54:56 <EskimoBob>	LOL, brendio is back from hiding :)
Jan 08 06:55:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00469863 = 10.337 BTC [+]
Jan 08 06:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00473719 = 7.5795 BTC [+]
Jan 08 07:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00473719 = 4.2635 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 07:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.0006331 = 1.9626 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2559 @ 0.00063282 = 1.6194 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:15:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00063272 = 4.8087 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:15:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00063117 = 5.2387 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:15:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 941 @ 0.00063114 = 0.5939 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:29:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00472784 = 0.2364 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00468759 = 4.6876 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 07:42:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.0006327 = 7.1811 BTC [+]
Jan 08 07:42:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 767 @ 0.00465576 = 3.571 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:42:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00463331 = 7.645 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 716 @ 0.00458928 = 3.2859 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:45:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 570 @ 0.00457928 = 2.6102 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 464 @ 0.00457881 = 2.1246 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 436 @ 0.00457881 = 1.9964 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1013 @ 0.00457818 = 4.6377 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:51:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 98 @ 0.00457762 = 0.4486 BTC [-]
Jan 08 07:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18679 @ 0.0006385 = 11.9265 BTC [+]
Jan 08 07:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9479 @ 0.00063913 = 6.0583 BTC [+]
Jan 08 07:58:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9071 @ 0.00063913 = 5.7975 BTC [+]
Jan 08 07:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12129 @ 0.00064002 = 7.7628 BTC [+]
Jan 08 07:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4471 @ 0.00064002 = 2.8615 BTC [+]
Jan 08 07:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00064213 = 7.1597 BTC [+]
Jan 08 07:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2331 @ 0.00064497 = 1.5034 BTC [+]
Jan 08 07:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2948 @ 0.00064571 = 1.9036 BTC [+]
Jan 08 08:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00457762 = 3.2043 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 08:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00457762 = 5.4931 BTC [-]
Jan 08 08:24:27 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 08 08:24:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00464332 / 0.0047888 (183533 shares, 852.20 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00335582 / 0.0048 (13488941 shares, 45,266.55 BTC)
Jan 08 08:24:29 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 08 08:24:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.66000, Best ask: 13.66200, Bid-ask spread: 0.00200, Last trade: 13.66000, 24 hour volume: 45759.01562298, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.83000, 24 hour vwap: 13.61537
Jan 08 08:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064307 = 5.3375 BTC [-]
Jan 08 08:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5092 @ 0.00063843 = 3.2509 BTC [-]
Jan 08 08:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10958 @ 0.00063095 = 6.914 BTC [-]
Jan 08 08:45:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1486 @ 0.00457762 = 6.8023 BTC [-]
Jan 08 08:45:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 114 @ 0.00457454 = 0.5215 BTC [-]
Jan 08 08:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5474 @ 0.00457454 = 25.041 BTC [-]
Jan 08 08:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1042 @ 0.00063095 = 0.6574 BTC [-]
Jan 08 08:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17778 @ 0.00063085 = 11.2153 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 09:03:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1312 @ 0.00457454 = 6.0018 BTC [-]
Jan 08 09:03:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1154 @ 0.00456368 = 5.2665 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 09:09:17 <gigavps>	https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=954.0
Jan 08 09:09:20 <gigavps>	sad
Jan 08 09:10:42 <Anduck>	well
Jan 08 09:10:55 <Anduck>	didn't ASICMINER announce they got things ready?
Jan 08 09:13:12 <Dr-X>	what's better again that FPGA stuff or that asic?
Jan 08 09:13:36 <gigavps>	asicMINER has another month to deploy
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Jan 08 09:15:36 <Anduck>	Dr-X: asic
Jan 08 09:15:55 <Anduck>	FPGA's are made by cutting certain parts off of a chip
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Jan 08 09:16:05 <Anduck>	ASICs are designed to only contain the parts they need
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Jan 08 09:27:51 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 08 09:27:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.77369, Best ask: 13.79998, Bid-ask spread: 0.02629, Last trade: 13.77369, 24 hour volume: 46211.50795751, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.83000, 24 hour vwap: 13.62316
Jan 08 09:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3246 @ 0.00456368 = 14.8137 BTC [-]
Jan 08 09:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 454 @ 0.00455666 = 2.0687 BTC [-]
Jan 08 09:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 246 @ 0.00455666 = 1.1209 BTC [-]
Jan 08 09:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00455599 = 4.556 BTC [-]
Jan 08 09:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 775 @ 0.0045506 = 3.5267 BTC [-]
Jan 08 09:32:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00459098 = 6.1978 BTC [+]
Jan 08 09:32:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1433 @ 0.00460709 = 6.602 BTC [+]
Jan 08 09:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3550 @ 0.00461065 = 16.3678 BTC [+]
Jan 08 09:32:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00463257 = 4.8642 BTC [+]
Jan 08 09:32:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 617 @ 0.00464179 = 2.864 BTC [+]
Jan 08 09:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 593 @ 0.0045506 = 2.6985 BTC [-]
Jan 08 09:32:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 541 @ 0.00453419 = 2.453 BTC [-]
Jan 08 09:32:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1274 @ 0.00453281 = 5.7748 BTC [-]
Jan 08 09:37:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00064503 = 4.5797 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 09:39:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2287 @ 0.00464179 = 10.6158 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 09:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	ahh so what's new
Jan 08 09:44:52 <jurov>	hi, brendio surfaced
Jan 08 09:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	o that's good
Jan 08 09:50:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00464179 = 4.1776 BTC [+]
Jan 08 09:52:49 <jurov>	oh, and if anyone prefers to claim BIB.BVPS via coinbr, let yourself be heard: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87358.20;topicseen
Jan 08 09:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	that's even better.
Jan 08 09:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell namjies <jurov> oh, and if anyone prefers to claim BIB.BVPS via coinbr, let yourself be heard: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87358.20;topicseen
Jan 08 09:57:01 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 08 10:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 196 @ 0.00464179 = 0.9098 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00467175 = 1.1679 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:00:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00467883 = 9.3577 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:00:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 811 @ 0.00468254 = 3.7975 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 08 10:00:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.73336, Best ask: 13.76960, Bid-ask spread: 0.03624, Last trade: 13.75950, 24 hour volume: 46393.77110328, 24 hour low: 13.40403, 24 hour high: 13.83000, 24 hour vwap: 13.62512
Jan 08 10:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	o hey.
Jan 08 10:03:37 <Anduck>	hey mircea_popescu why dont bitbet just show how much the winning ratio for each bet is
Jan 08 10:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't it ?
Jan 08 10:04:03 <Anduck>	Weighted No: 534`511
Jan 08 10:04:03 <Anduck>	Weighted Yes: 793`307
Jan 08 10:04:07 <Anduck>	how the duck i decipher this?
Jan 08 10:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	but that's exactly what a ratio is neh ?
Jan 08 10:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 534511 / 793307
Jan 08 10:04:23 <gribble>	0.673775726169
Jan 08 10:04:35 <Anduck>	well maybe it should show that on the page, too..
Jan 08 10:04:45 <Anduck>	i've got no idea what i win if i bet 1 btc on a bet
Jan 08 10:04:49 <Anduck>	if it shows info like Weighted No: 534`511
Jan 08 10:04:49 <Anduck>	Weighted Yes: 793`307
Jan 08 10:04:51 <mircea_popescu>	that's an idea
Jan 08 10:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064571 = 4.6491 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:06:58 <pigeons>	https://www.ultimafund.com/
Jan 08 10:08:47 <pigeons>	Welcome, Dear Investor!
Jan 08 10:08:55 <mircea_popescu>	I am MAria
Jan 08 10:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	Please to loved you.
Jan 08 10:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	Yearly return: -21.90%
Jan 08 10:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	sweet
Jan 08 10:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	liek, better than btcjam, 78.1%
Jan 08 10:09:51 <mircea_popescu>	MOAR THAN MARKET of 77.whatever thefuck it was
Jan 08 10:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064553 = 7.359 BTC [-]
Jan 08 10:10:08 <Bugpowder>	That fund is not investing well
Jan 08 10:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	don't be a hater nao
Jan 08 10:10:29 <Bugpowder>	Nov 28 share price 0.88,  Today 0.92
Jan 08 10:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	Fund size: 2092.05 BTC
Jan 08 10:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	Deposit fee: 3.00%
Jan 08 10:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	Profit fee: 10.00%
Jan 08 10:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	holy shit
Jan 08 10:11:10 <pigeons>	See we're not a ponzi!
Jan 08 10:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	dude
Jan 08 10:11:17 <Bugpowder>	My 'fund'  share price Nov. 28 = 0.782
Jan 08 10:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	i should start a fund doing 3% off the top and 10% profit.
Jan 08 10:11:38 <Bugpowder>	My 'fund'  share price today = 1.094
Jan 08 10:11:45 <pigeons>	who is giving him money? I doubt anyone
Jan 08 10:11:46 <Bugpowder>	I take 2/10
Jan 08 10:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	ya but you have a gf
Jan 08 10:12:07 <Bugpowder>	most hedge funds are 2 & 20
Jan 08 10:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	ya but they ALSO have gfs.
Jan 08 10:12:28 <Bugpowder>	what is a gf?
Jan 08 10:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	girlfriend
Jan 08 10:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	im not paying someone with no track record 3%, 2% or any %.
Jan 08 10:12:55 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 08 10:12:58 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 08 10:13:01 <mircea_popescu>	profit only for him.
Jan 08 10:13:23 <Bugpowder>	I would rather invest by myself
Jan 08 10:13:24 <pigeons>	He should start a S.DICE passthrough
Jan 08 10:13:38 <Bugpowder>	but 3/10 is not obscene, if he was running a decent fund
Jan 08 10:13:56 <mircea_popescu>	if he was somebody it would be obscene
Jan 08 10:14:01 <mircea_popescu>	as in, 50% over what's common.
Jan 08 10:14:03 <Bugpowder>	SAC  took 3/50
Jan 08 10:14:06 <mircea_popescu>	if he's nobody it's insanity
Jan 08 10:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	dude SAC. is this sac ?
Jan 08 10:14:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00465113 = 3.2558 BTC [-]
Jan 08 10:14:13 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 08 10:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	well ?
Jan 08 10:14:21 <Bugpowder>	2&20 is standard
Jan 08 10:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	you know, brad pitt made a lot of money
Jan 08 10:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	therefore i shall be paid when i sing in the shower.
Jan 08 10:14:54 <Bugpowder>	Someone should start a fund with the tagline "The SAC of Bitcoin"
Jan 08 10:15:01 <pigeons>	I bet people would feel happy to pay the 3% deposit fee and think they were getting away with not paying 30 BTC mpex registration
Jan 08 10:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	Scottish Agricultural College of Bitcoin ?
Jan 08 10:15:13 <Anduck>	pigeons: is that a joke?
Jan 08 10:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you see what a business enabler i am ?
Jan 08 10:15:32 <Bugpowder>	pigeons, actually that is why I take 2
Jan 08 10:15:38 <Bugpowder>	to defray the account fee
Jan 08 10:15:39 <Bugpowder>	 :)
Jan 08 10:16:17 <topace>	or you could just do it without a setup/deposit fee, like havelock investments :p
Jan 08 10:16:24 <pigeons>	5%
Jan 08 10:16:29 <Anduck>	how many here have actually paid the 30btc MPEX reg fee?
Jan 08 10:16:35 <Bugpowder>	I paid 20
Jan 08 10:16:36 <pigeons>	i got it free
Jan 08 10:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	hundreds.
Jan 08 10:16:44 <Anduck>	hundreds - liar
Jan 08 10:16:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1941 @ 0.00453282 = 8.7982 BTC [-]
Jan 08 10:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	dude it's in the monthly reports.
Jan 08 10:16:55 <Bugpowder>	If you have >500 BTC to invest, its not a big deal
Jan 08 10:16:57 <Anduck>	link please
Jan 08 10:17:01 <mircea_popescu>	...
Jan 08 10:17:12 <Bugpowder>	probably the average MPEX account has >500
Jan 08 10:17:28 <Anduck>	i am very doubtful on that _hundreds_ would've paid 30 btc mpex reg fee
Jan 08 10:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/
Jan 08 10:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	there, all the links in the bottom.
Jan 08 10:17:43 <Dr-X>	I would charge people for this chat, so that the poor people stay out
Jan 08 10:17:44 <mircea_popescu>	you're very doubtful. why is that exactly ?
Jan 08 10:17:57 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE returned 5% this month
Jan 08 10:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	Dr-X prolly public access to the trade chan is a thing of limited timespan
Jan 08 10:18:12 <jurov>	<mircea_popescu> ";;later tell namjies" - but he rebranded himself, will he get it still?
Jan 08 10:18:14 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 30/.05
Jan 08 10:18:15 <gribble>	600
Jan 08 10:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	jurov iirc he logs as namjies neh ?
Jan 08 10:18:24 <Bugpowder>	o wait, stock price is up 40% too
Jan 08 10:18:34 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 30/.45
Jan 08 10:18:34 <gribble>	66.6666666667
Jan 08 10:18:35 <Anduck>	sorry but where do i see the actual numbers of registred accounts, mircea_popescu?
Jan 08 10:18:54 <mircea_popescu>	its reported in the mpex statement as revenue from new accounts.
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Jan 08 10:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 549 @ 0.00455133 = 2.4987 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:20:19 <pigeons>	again, has havelock ever shown a non-doctored statement yet?
Jan 08 10:20:34 <Anduck>	ahh
Jan 08 10:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons yeah
Jan 08 10:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	on the third try but they did it. gpg has a curve.
Jan 08 10:20:52 <Anduck>	nov 12 seems to have had 240 from new accs, making it 8 new accounts, right?
Jan 08 10:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	anywhere between 8 and 12.
Jan 08 10:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	there's a referral scheme
Jan 08 10:21:25 <Anduck>	which works how?
Jan 08 10:21:37 <pigeons>	give your key id, both get 5 btc
Jan 08 10:21:42 <mircea_popescu>	new user names referrer by keyid, the both get 5 btc. tis in the faq.
Jan 08 10:21:48 <Anduck>	'aight
Jan 08 10:21:56 <pigeons>	someone else mentioned it yesterday
Jan 08 10:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's starting to possibly dawn on people (one year later) that making 5 btc per signup is not at all a bad deal
Jan 08 10:22:23 <mircea_popescu>	heck, porn doesn't pay that.
Jan 08 10:23:09 <topace>	pigeons: what do you mean? havelock non doctored statement??
Jan 08 10:23:28 <pigeons>	topace: i mean that havelock cut out the gpg signature
Jan 08 10:23:40 <topace>	i'll give you one right now
Jan 08 10:23:41 <pigeons>	so we can't verify its authenticity
Jan 08 10:24:59 <mircea_popescu>	nah they published a proper one eventually.
Jan 08 10:25:14 <pigeons>	ok.
Jan 08 10:25:22 <topace>	http://www.lightbox.ca/~james/stat.for.pigeons.txt
Jan 08 10:26:00 <topace>	pigeons: please verify
Jan 08 10:26:18 <pigeons>	gpg: Signature made Tue 08 Jan 2013 10:24:48 AM EST using DSA key ID F1B69921
Jan 08 10:26:21 <pigeons>	gpg: Good signature from "MP Stock Exchange (Visit http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/) <office@polimedia.us>"
Jan 08 10:26:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00063566 = 6.4837 BTC [-]
Jan 08 10:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1702 @ 0.00064571 = 1.099 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:26:24 <pigeons>	thanks
Jan 08 10:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8076 @ 0.00064708 = 5.2258 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:26:32 <topace>	lol and now you know my s.bbet bid :p
Jan 08 10:26:40 <pigeons>	:)
Jan 08 10:27:11 <topace>	public offering that started this morning is half sold out too
Jan 08 10:27:22 <topace>	will bring us to 250,000 shares
Jan 08 10:27:29 <pigeons>	pretty good response
Jan 08 10:29:36 <pigeons>	nice to hear from you topace i didnt know havelock was here
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Jan 08 10:32:09 <kakobrekla>	he quit on you.
Jan 08 10:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00064886 = 13.107 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:32:57 <pigeons>	i have that effect
Jan 08 10:33:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 08 10:36:21 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, care to look on withdrawals?
Jan 08 10:37:07 <EskimoBob>	jurov: finally :)
Jan 08 10:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00065195 = 10.04 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 10:37:18 <EskimoBob>	oops
Jan 08 10:37:23 <EskimoBob>	wrong channel
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Jan 08 10:37:57 <topace>	oops sorry pigeons saw nothing after "pretty good response"
Jan 08 10:38:01 <topace>	yea, im surprised at the response
Jan 08 10:38:11 <topace>	but ill keep buying shares and issuing units on havelock if the demand is there
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Jan 08 10:40:05 <kakobrekla>	16:27.24 ( pigeons ) pretty good response
Jan 08 10:40:05 <kakobrekla>	16:29.32 ( pigeons ) nice to hear from you topace i didnt know havelock was here
Jan 08 10:40:05 <kakobrekla>	16:31.51 .•• topace ( ~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace ) has quit IRC ( Ping timeout: 246 seconds )
Jan 08 10:40:05 <kakobrekla>	16:32.04 ( kakobrekla ) he quit on you.
Jan 08 10:40:05 <kakobrekla>	16:32.49 ( @assbot ) [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00064886 = 13.107 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:40:06 <kakobrekla>	16:32.53 ( pigeons ) i have that effect
Jan 08 10:40:31 <topace>	haha
Jan 08 10:40:52 <topace>	aparently my office connection sucks today
Jan 08 10:41:36 <topace>	kakobrekla: mircea_popescu said there might be a possibility to interface with assbot for traders on havelock?
Jan 08 10:41:51 <kakobrekla>	pm me and we talk.
Jan 08 10:44:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00467745 = 7.7178 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00458277 = 3.2079 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 10:46:25 <jurov>	<pigeons> I bet people would feel happy to pay the 3% deposit fee and think they were getting away with not paying 30 BTC mpex registration
Jan 08 10:46:32 <jurov>	^ what makes you so sure?
Jan 08 10:48:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00065195 = 2.999 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:48:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00065196 = 5.1179 BTC [+]
Jan 08 10:49:56 <EskimoBob>	"30 BTC mpex registration" - lol, to do what? Trade 2 stocks and one of those belongs to mp himself? LOL
Jan 08 10:51:56 <jurov>	oh, disregard that. even 1BTC/year for coinbr is too much to these. with burnside placed himself on prominent place.
Jan 08 10:53:10 <jurov>	and you next to him, ofc
Jan 08 10:55:15 <EskimoBob>	?
Jan 08 10:57:16 <thestringpuller>	q
Jan 08 10:59:41 <jurov>	what's unclear? there just seems to be a group of people unable to stomach mpex
Jan 08 11:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 36 @ 0.00468254 = 0.1686 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 378 @ 0.00473719 = 1.7907 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 86 @ 0.00474063 = 0.4077 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:02:01 <thestringpuller>	like EskimoBob
Jan 08 11:02:04 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 08 11:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 949 @ 0.00470184 = 4.462 BTC [-]
Jan 08 11:08:20 <topace>	EskimoBob: you're more than welcome to use havelock investments :p
Jan 08 11:11:21 <jurov>	topace, don't dare to ask any fees, then :)
Jan 08 11:11:46 <topace>	we dont
Jan 08 11:12:10 <topace>	for s.dice passthru its just a % of the dividends (5%)
Jan 08 11:12:24 <topace>	but no deposit/withdraw fees, no trade fees, no setup fees
Jan 08 11:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00064886 = 3.0496 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 11:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00474063 = 9.4813 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 11:25:31 <EskimoBob>	topace: thank you. I'll be happy to take a look.
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Jan 08 11:26:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5849 @ 0.00065196 = 3.8133 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4401 @ 0.00065419 = 2.8791 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:29:00 <EskimoBob>	I have nothing against reasonable fees. 30 BTC for a fkn gypsy bazaar with one stock... lol
Jan 08 11:29:25 <EskimoBob>	thank you, I do not think so
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Jan 08 11:30:23 <gigavps>	gypsy bazaar
Jan 08 11:30:34 <gigavps>	never heard mpex called that before
Jan 08 11:30:44 <gigavps>	EskimoBob you are quite creative
Jan 08 11:31:22 <Diablo-D3>	I like that phrase
Jan 08 11:31:31 <Diablo-D3>	I agree with EskimoBob though
Jan 08 11:31:34 <Korbman>	Ha, indeed..gave me some interesting visuals
Jan 08 11:31:40 <Diablo-D3>	mpex has two worthwhile stocks, mpex being one of them
Jan 08 11:31:54 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: and wtf are you blabbering about? Do you have a account over there or are you just sucking up as hard as you can? :)
Jan 08 11:32:09 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: thank you :)
Jan 08 11:32:44 <gigavps>	i love that EskimoBob follows up "sucking up as hard as you can" with a smiley face
Jan 08 11:33:19 <gigavps>	gives me warm fuzzies to know that EskimoBob's creativeness is not reserved just for the gigamining thread
Jan 08 11:33:21 <kakobrekla>	love is in the air.
Jan 08 11:33:51 <EskimoBob>	this is the image on the front page http://polimedia.us/background.jpg , if you need more visual stimulation :)
Jan 08 11:34:31 <jurov>	they aren't gypsies, you missed in class when mircea explained teh pic
Jan 08 11:34:40 <kakobrekla>	:DD
Jan 08 11:34:49 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: you mean that afet 80 pages of post I asked has anyone called to this mysterious office and asked for the "internet crime specialist" who has hard time handling his fkn e-mail :)
Jan 08 11:34:57 <EskimoBob>	this is not creative at all :)
Jan 08 11:35:21 <gigavps>	lol
Jan 08 11:35:21 <EskimoBob>	jurov: mexicans?
Jan 08 11:35:27 <gigavps>	you can call if you like
Jan 08 11:36:09 <jurov>	iirc, they were smuggling his luggage from or to guatemala
Jan 08 11:37:32 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: but I must say, the way you handle the forum, sure is something.
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Jan 08 11:38:55 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: is a hater
Jan 08 11:39:11 <EskimoBob>	not at all thestringpuller.
Jan 08 11:39:46 <mircea_popescu>	jurov im sorry but mpex doesn't process withdrawals
Jan 08 11:39:48 <mircea_popescu>	deposits only.
Jan 08 11:39:54 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 08 11:39:55 <gigavps>	EskimoBob what do you mean "handle the forums"
Jan 08 11:40:01 <jurov>	oh, no more withdrawals?
Jan 08 11:40:37 <jurov>	EskimoBob - you see what happens when you complain about withdrawal fee.
Jan 08 11:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	who's da gypsy ?
Jan 08 11:40:50 <jurov>	they'll get discontinued
Jan 08 11:40:58 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: the smoothness at which you sell bull shit to the angry mob is astounding :)
Jan 08 11:41:23 <gigavps>	well, if i was only selling bull shit, i'm sure it would be a lot harder
Jan 08 11:41:45 <gigavps>	but there isn't much to telling the truth
Jan 08 11:41:46 <EskimoBob>	it's like fine silk,  gigavps
Jan 08 11:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 167 @ 0.00474063 = 0.7917 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00474806 = 4.7481 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00475272 = 4.7527 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 833 @ 0.00475481 = 3.9608 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:43:19 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: I havent read all the pages but did you explain what do you really mean by "going legal" ? Are you planning a legal public offer?
Jan 08 11:43:36 <gigavps>	Teramining contract is already created
Jan 08 11:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it was from chiapas to peten
Jan 08 11:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	(mexico to guatemala)
Jan 08 11:43:46 <gigavps>	ready to go
Jan 08 11:43:50 <Diablo-D3>	speaking of legal, I wish we had a bitlawyer
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Jan 08 11:44:00 <EskimoBob>	If i remember correctly, it's really complicated (expensive) in US
Jan 08 11:44:24 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: its not complicated or expensive in the US
Jan 08 11:44:32 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: contract?
Jan 08 11:44:35 <Diablo-D3>	although it depends which state you're incorporating in
Jan 08 11:45:01 <gigavps>	yes, a contract
Jan 08 11:45:04 <Korbman>	establishing a legal entity in the States isn't hard at all
Jan 08 11:45:10 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: to get incorporated is easy, Doing a public offer is something else
Jan 08 11:45:12 <Korbman>	that's what I did
Jan 08 11:45:19 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: yes/no
Jan 08 11:45:26 <Diablo-D3>	I think we had this discussion before
Jan 08 11:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00472926 = 9.2221 BTC [-]
Jan 08 11:46:27 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: what about all the limits for investors (annual income etc)
Jan 08 11:47:04 <EskimoBob>	even DPO is not just call up and sell shares
Jan 08 11:48:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2475 @ 0.00475481 = 11.7682 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11400 @ 0.00475485 = 54.2053 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550 @ 0.00477418 = 12.1742 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:48:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.0047797 = 238.985 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:48:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00478065 = 11.9516 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:48:07 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: it depends on the state
Jan 08 11:48:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 77075 @ 0.00478699 = 368.9573 BTC [+]
Jan 08 11:48:08 <EskimoBob>	bond issue? Same. For something as small as teramining... forget it
Jan 08 11:48:32 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: like, some states do not require the state to have a list of all investors, or even the company to have to make it public on request
Jan 08 11:48:43 <Diablo-D3>	I think its nevada that has that, but I could be wrong
Jan 08 11:48:47 <EskimoBob>	assbot has become useless :( unless someone adds other markets
Jan 08 11:49:07 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: talk to nanotube to get your shit on assbot
Jan 08 11:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 181 @ 0.00472926 = 0.856 BTC [-]
Jan 08 11:49:20 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: i think it's somehow related to number of investors and min. investment
Jan 08 11:49:42 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: it can be in some cases, yes
Jan 08 11:49:54 <EskimoBob>	actually every market needs to have their own bot so one can ban those that are not interesting
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Jan 08 11:51:26 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: I remember reading CA blue sky law blablah long time ago. and If gigavps "going legal" is only a contract, forget it. It's not important in this case
Jan 08 11:52:24 <Korbman>	contracts are important though
Jan 08 11:52:41 <EskimoBob>	Korbman: handshake and a mans word used to be all you needed
Jan 08 11:52:57 <Korbman>	still is...that's called a verbal contract
Jan 08 11:53:10 <Diablo-D3>	yes, but verbal contracts are hard to enforce
Jan 08 11:53:58 <EskimoBob>	lol Diablo-D3, exactly my point. "enforce"
Jan 08 11:54:05 <Korbman>	unless you have a witness haha, but yeah for the most part they're a pain
Jan 08 11:54:17 <Diablo-D3>	well yes
Jan 08 11:54:21 <Diablo-D3>	if he was truly a gentleman
Jan 08 11:54:23 <Diablo-D3>	this wouldnt be a problem
Jan 08 11:54:30 <EskimoBob>	so handshake and promise have lost its meaning :(
Jan 08 11:54:31 <Korbman>	indeed
Jan 08 11:54:39 <Diablo-D3>	yup
Jan 08 11:54:44 <Diablo-D3>	there are very very very very few people I trust
Jan 08 11:54:51 <EskimoBob>	and this is nothing to be proud of
Jan 08 11:55:00 <Diablo-D3>	and the very few I trust usually end up stabbing me in the back anyhow
Jan 08 11:55:08 <Diablo-D3>	so yes, the days of gentlemen are over.
Jan 08 11:56:04 <EskimoBob>	indeed, now you have lawyers, scammers and perverts
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Jan 08 11:56:58 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Jan 08 11:57:12 <Korbman>	Ha, seems that way sometimes
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Jan 08 12:01:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00468872 = 23.4436 BTC [-]
Jan 08 12:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.00468872 = 16.8794 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 12:11:58 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: ICBIT was told how to set up assbot ticker but it never went anywhere
Jan 08 12:12:02 <thestringpuller>	don't blame assbot :P
Jan 08 12:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2415 @ 0.00472477 = 11.4103 BTC [+]
Jan 08 12:13:07 <thestringpuller>	Soon S.DICE will be prie for shorting
Jan 08 12:13:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5580 @ 0.00478699 = 26.7114 BTC [+]
Jan 08 12:14:47 <Dr-X>	mh
Jan 08 12:15:09 <Dr-X>	no profits this month so far
Jan 08 12:15:45 <jcpham>	impatient much
Jan 08 12:15:51 <thestringpuller>	someone who wants to get exit the position and take his profits elsewhere will sell soon
Jan 08 12:16:01 <thestringpuller>	and we'll see a wall of sells
Jan 08 12:16:18 <thestringpuller>	but in small lucky bursts
Jan 08 12:16:22 <thestringpuller>	you have to keep yo eye out
Jan 08 12:16:59 <Dr-X>	the ipo was for 0.0037?
Jan 08 12:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00478699 = 13.4036 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 12:17:28 <topace>	wow we're up to that 125k ask wlal
Jan 08 12:17:29 <topace>	wall
Jan 08 12:17:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17502 @ 0.00064886 = 11.3563 BTC [-]
Jan 08 12:18:00 <JWU_42>	really
Jan 08 12:18:14 <jcpham>	no volume
Jan 08 12:18:17 <jcpham>	just a wall
Jan 08 12:18:27 <JWU_42>	125k ?
Jan 08 12:20:24 <thestringpuller>	no like a wall of text
Jan 08 12:20:29 <thestringpuller>	cause it happens so fast
Jan 08 12:20:38 <thestringpuller>	but no not a ot of volume
Jan 08 12:20:47 <thestringpuller>	like under 25 btc at first
Jan 08 12:20:53 <thestringpuller>	small fish exiting
Jan 08 12:21:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00478108 = 6.9326 BTC [-]
Jan 08 12:21:24 <jcpham>	http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5026802
Jan 08 12:22:16 <thestringpuller>	I didn't know there were free ACH services..
Jan 08 12:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1670 @ 0.00478698 = 7.9943 BTC [+]
Jan 08 12:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 530 @ 0.00478699 = 2.5371 BTC [+]
Jan 08 12:22:38 <thestringpuller>	oh it's not free lame
Jan 08 12:23:27 <thestringpuller>	jcpham: what is this nonsense
Jan 08 12:25:03 <jcpham>	i'm not sure
Jan 08 12:25:15 <jcpham>	but bank acount details in curl commands must be legit
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Jan 08 12:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1385 @ 0.00478107 = 6.6218 BTC [-]
Jan 08 12:27:24 <thestringpuller>	what do you expect from ycombinator
Jan 08 12:28:08 <Diablo-D3>	are you on drugs thestringpuller?
Jan 08 12:28:46 <Diablo-D3>	y combinator is a startup incubator
Jan 08 12:28:53 <Diablo-D3>	hn has nothing to do with it
Jan 08 12:30:27 <mircea_popescu>	Dr-X 32/34/37
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Jan 08 12:31:35 <thestringpuller>	Are you on drugs Diablo-D3 ? "At Balanced Payments YC W2011"
Jan 08 12:31:46 <thestringpuller>	The poster was in YC
Jan 08 12:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't 2011 like 2 years ago ?
Jan 08 12:32:10 <thestringpuller>	...like airbnb
Jan 08 12:32:11 <Diablo-D3>	you're implying I clicked the link
Jan 08 12:32:13 <Diablo-D3>	the jokes on you
Jan 08 12:32:31 <thestringpuller>	What joke...
Jan 08 12:33:06 <thestringpuller>	https://balancedpayments.com
Jan 08 12:33:11 <thestringpuller>	that's the joke :P
Jan 08 12:34:37 <Diablo-D3>	I still dont get why you're bringing YC up here
Jan 08 12:34:44 <Diablo-D3>	they were in the YC before the previous one
Jan 08 12:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5709 @ 0.00065419 = 3.7348 BTC [+]
Jan 08 12:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 691 @ 0.00065576 = 0.4531 BTC [+]
Jan 08 12:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 08 12:36:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.004312 / 0.00469748 / 0.0047888 (397246 shares, 1,866.06 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00337775 / 0.0048 (13703504 shares, 46,287.08 BTC)
Jan 08 12:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 08 12:36:54 <jcpham>	HN is has funny things
Jan 08 12:36:58 <jcpham>	*has
Jan 08 12:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller if you're looking at the net cashflow indicator for mpex it's unlikely a sellout is in the works
Jan 08 12:37:18 <jcpham>	relative: http://www.tit4bit.com/
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Jan 08 12:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	Beginner's Bondage Fantasy
Jan 08 12:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	With four wrist and ankle restraints attached to nylon straps, this set is sure to produce a happy ending.
Jan 08 12:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	fuckwits.
Jan 08 12:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	no synthetics in bondage omfg.
Jan 08 12:38:32 <jcpham>	haha
Jan 08 12:41:02 <Korbman>	lol
Jan 08 12:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	"but mp, nylon is so much cheaper"
Jan 08 12:43:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4200 @ 0.00478107 = 20.0805 BTC [-]
Jan 08 12:44:54 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu, the expert in bondage, has spoken
Jan 08 12:46:20 <mircea_popescu>	i prolly did tie more women up than teh average internet dood slept with
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Jan 08 12:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 440 @ 0.00478698 = 2.1063 BTC [+]
Jan 08 12:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11219 @ 0.00478699 = 53.7052 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 12:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3621 @ 0.00478699 = 17.3337 BTC [+]
Jan 08 13:03:50 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 08 13:03:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00436997 / 0.00471658 / 0.0047888 (387085 shares, 1,825.72 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00337974 / 0.0048 (13712984 shares, 46,346.45 BTC)
Jan 08 13:06:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00478699 = 14.361 BTC [+]
Jan 08 13:09:21 <jcpham>	http://nymag.com/news/features/tide-detergent-drugs-2013-1
Jan 08 13:09:31 <jcpham>	i love reading about tide detergent theft
Jan 08 13:09:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3737 @ 0.00478699 = 17.889 BTC [+]
Jan 08 13:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	"the voice dictation program on my ipad hears bitbet, writes "big butt""
Jan 08 13:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	tru story.
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Jan 08 13:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 580 @ 0.00478699 = 2.7765 BTC [+]
Jan 08 13:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00478699 = 6.2231 BTC [+]
Jan 08 13:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064921 = 6.4921 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 13:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00478107 = 8.845 BTC [-]
Jan 08 13:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.00478699 = 18.1906 BTC [+]
Jan 08 13:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2285 @ 0.00478107 = 10.9247 BTC [-]
Jan 08 13:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00469696 = 3.7576 BTC [-]
Jan 08 13:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 794 @ 0.00469615 = 3.7287 BTC [-]
Jan 08 13:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3650 @ 0.00478699 = 17.4725 BTC [+]
Jan 08 13:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1275 @ 0.00478699 = 6.1034 BTC [+]
Jan 08 13:50:06 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 08 13:50:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.81370, Best ask: 13.84499, Bid-ask spread: 0.03129, Last trade: 13.80998, 24 hour volume: 46657.68368336, 24 hour low: 13.45315, 24 hour high: 13.84500, 24 hour vwap: 13.66023
Jan 08 13:50:33 <smickles>	rally time, eh?
Jan 08 13:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	seems that way
Jan 08 13:51:10 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 08 13:51:11 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 37 seconds ago: <smickles> rally time, eh?
Jan 08 13:51:44 <smickles>	heh, thestringpuller look 5 lines up
Jan 08 13:52:02 <smickles>	or 4, depending on how you count it
Jan 08 13:59:37 *	Dr-X is now known as JohnGalt
Jan 08 14:08:17 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 08 14:08:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.81371, Best ask: 13.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02629, Last trade: 13.81371, 24 hour volume: 46883.13203225, 24 hour low: 13.46000, 24 hour high: 13.85000, 24 hour vwap: 13.66531
Jan 08 14:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064939 = 10.3902 BTC [+]
Jan 08 14:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6559 @ 0.00064886 = 4.2559 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 14:20:00 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 08 14:20:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.82370, Best ask: 13.84899, Bid-ask spread: 0.02529, Last trade: 13.82370, 24 hour volume: 46826.34867111, 24 hour low: 13.46000, 24 hour high: 13.87000, 24 hour vwap: 13.66692
Jan 08 14:20:27 <Bugpowder>	6 month high about to go down (13.88)
Jan 08 14:21:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7043 @ 0.00064467 = 4.5404 BTC [-]
Jan 08 14:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1224 @ 0.00469615 = 5.7481 BTC [-]
Jan 08 14:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 469 @ 0.00478699 = 2.2451 BTC [+]
Jan 08 14:31:23 <jurov>	Bugpowder, or not. it's not so dramatic rise
Jan 08 14:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 990 @ 0.00478699 = 4.7391 BTC [+]
Jan 08 14:36:22 <jurov>	cay anyone make sense of burnside's intentions? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.240;topicseen
Jan 08 14:36:53 <jurov>	like, he's looking to gradually sell btct.. to whom? the community?
Jan 08 14:38:06 <Bugpowder>	John McAfee
Jan 08 14:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4050 @ 0.00478699 = 19.3873 BTC [+]
Jan 08 14:41:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00064237 = 8.5114 BTC [-]
Jan 08 14:46:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3902 @ 0.00469616 = 18.3244 BTC [-]
Jan 08 14:53:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.5417181 = 541.7181 BTC [+]
Jan 08 14:53:40 <topace>	kakobrekla: you there? check pm
Jan 08 14:54:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.62300558 = 623.0056 BTC [+]
Jan 08 14:55:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2108 @ 0.00478699 = 10.091 BTC [+]
Jan 08 14:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	jurov seems just "mpex rehash, except we can't call it that."
Jan 08 14:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	duh Bugpowder you been scaring away options ppls
Jan 08 14:57:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00478699 = 3.5902 BTC [+]
Jan 08 14:57:37 <Bugpowder>	me?
Jan 08 14:57:54 <Bugpowder>	I've been trying to buy and sell them
Jan 08 14:58:03 <Bugpowder>	need some variance
Jan 08 14:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	ppl covering puts
Jan 08 14:59:03 <Bugpowder>	13.87998
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Jan 08 15:03:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.62177589 = 621.7759 BTC [-]
Jan 08 15:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.54057549 = 540.5755 BTC [-]
Jan 08 15:04:32 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 08 15:04:37 <Bugpowder>	MOAR
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Jan 08 15:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00064237 = 4.4966 BTC [-]
Jan 08 15:13:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.0006365 = 9.102 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 15:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.62173733 = 621.7373 BTC [-]
Jan 08 15:17:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.54053461 = 540.5346 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 15:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135366.0
Jan 08 15:18:50 <mircea_popescu>	kind of interesting
Jan 08 15:20:08 <dub>	isn't BTCGOLD that asset name squatter guy?
Jan 08 15:20:37 <dub>	from glbse
Jan 08 15:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	may be
Jan 08 15:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	New peer-to-peer lending on Bitfinex << pigeons!
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Jan 08 15:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	the bitcoinica v-2.0 is back with moar jam!
Jan 08 15:22:12 <dub>	what does the CTG in BCB's tagline mean?
Jan 08 15:22:32 <mircea_popescu>	bASIC will not ship until mid to end of March
Jan 08 15:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Jan 08 15:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	so basically cablepair is out of the game.
Jan 08 15:24:49 <topace>	yea
Jan 08 15:25:01 <topace>	glad i only have a few orders with them
Jan 08 15:26:41 <dub>	tbh https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41592.0;topicseen
Jan 08 15:26:47 <dub>	this is obviously not a german
Jan 08 15:27:03 <mircea_popescu>	so basically, bfl is in inaba mode, basic is wiped, asicminer claims to have chips
Jan 08 15:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	end of the asic race ?
Jan 08 15:27:13 <dub>	that is straight chinglish
Jan 08 15:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	dub tbh i also though the guy is azn
Jan 08 15:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	when i first saw him, 6 mo ago or w/e
Jan 08 15:29:05 <dub>	also wah happen to kluge's scammer tag
Jan 08 15:29:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.0006365 = 0.6683 BTC [-]
Jan 08 15:29:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00063645 = 8.5921 BTC [-]
Jan 08 15:29:58 <jurov>	so, looks like bitmit is closing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41592.msg1441934#msg1441934
Jan 08 15:30:03 <Anduck>	so uhhh
Jan 08 15:30:08 <Anduck>	whats the roblum with asicminer
Jan 08 15:30:09 <Anduck>	?
Jan 08 15:30:10 <jurov>	worst possible way of announcing it
Jan 08 15:30:15 <Anduck>	do they have some kind of delay incomin?
Jan 08 15:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck not afaik. they however have a different model, whereby they don't deliver items
Jan 08 15:30:49 <mircea_popescu>	so they can claim w/e they want for longer.
Jan 08 15:30:54 <mircea_popescu>	dub i have no idea.
Jan 08 15:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3949 @ 0.00478699 = 18.9038 BTC [+]
Jan 08 15:32:22 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: but they need to start mining!!
Jan 08 15:36:28 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Jan 08 15:37:29 <EskimoBob>	has anyone seen Goat around?
Jan 08 15:37:45 <Namworld>	I haven't seen Goat in forever.
Jan 08 15:37:53 <EskimoBob>	same here
Jan 08 15:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	he's dissapeared.
Jan 08 15:39:44 <EskimoBob>	there is this strange rumour floating around that ugly cesspool of a forum that scumbag Trendon is in Asia.
Jan 08 15:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 546 @ 0.00478699 = 2.6137 BTC [+]
Jan 08 15:40:59 <Namworld>	Are you implying anything?
Jan 08 15:41:25 <dub>	link?
Jan 08 15:42:27 <Bugpowder>	its dumb
Jan 08 15:42:32 <Bugpowder>	just an irc troll
Jan 08 15:43:13 <kakobrekla>	lets see if this works.
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Jan 08 15:44:08 <kakobrekla>	nope.
Jan 08 15:44:09 <dub>	failure
Jan 08 15:45:01 <kakobrekla>	aha.
Jan 08 15:45:37 <dub>	EskimoBob: substanciate that comment or entrench your reputation as a moron
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Jan 08 15:46:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC
Jan 08 15:46:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC
Jan 08 15:46:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC
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Jan 08 15:46:36 <Bugpowder>	whoa!
Jan 08 15:46:37 <kakobrekla>	ok we got it we got it. jeez.
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Jan 08 15:47:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC
Jan 08 15:47:27 <kakobrekla>	topace go for it.
Jan 08 15:48:44 <EskimoBob>	dub: are you telling me that you do not read the comics section of the bitcointalk? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120119.340;topicseen
Jan 08 15:48:58 <Anduck>	why isnt it S.DICE.....
Jan 08 15:49:19 <kakobrekla>	talk to topace.
Jan 08 15:49:22 <kakobrekla>	:p
Jan 08 15:49:46 <topace>	woohoo
Jan 08 15:49:50 <topace>	thanks kakobrekla
Jan 08 15:49:58 <kakobrekla>	welcome
Jan 08 15:50:00 <EskimoBob>	dub, but you talking about reputation is like a 2" dick yapping about "going deep"
Jan 08 15:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld im not implying anything. he just dissapeared
Jan 08 15:50:15 <mircea_popescu>	o hey! well done havelock
Jan 08 15:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC
Jan 08 15:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	topace http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpsics-in-detail/
Jan 08 15:51:05 <topace>	that was the test one, lets see if a "live" one works
Jan 08 15:51:38 <topace>	excellent
Jan 08 15:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	so who'd have thunk it, havelock beat everyone to it. Ukto you see that ?
Jan 08 15:51:51 <topace>	hehe
Jan 08 15:52:00 <topace>	that took all of, umm... 7 minutes to implement
Jan 08 15:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	i know lol
Jan 08 15:52:22 <Bugpowder>	It's so alive in here now
Jan 08 15:52:27 <Bugpowder>	feels like the good ole days
Jan 08 15:52:31 <Bugpowder>	of 3 months ago
Jan 08 15:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134733.msg1442258#msg1442258
Jan 08 15:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol that should stir the pot a little
Jan 08 15:52:42 <Bugpowder>	err 4 months ago
Jan 08 15:52:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you were here 4 months ago ?!
Jan 08 15:52:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10500 @ 0.00478699 = 50.2634 BTC [+]
Jan 08 15:54:21 <topace>	kakobrekla: can you add the "= x BTC" calculation to the havelock one? same as for MPEX? or do you need me to post that through?
Jan 08 15:54:34 <topace>	(just for consistency)
Jan 08 15:54:41 <kakobrekla>	topace it will happen automagically if amount is > 1
Jan 08 15:54:45 <topace>	ah
Jan 08 15:54:46 <topace>	:)
Jan 08 15:55:00 <kakobrekla>	also the [+] and [-] will start to work
Jan 08 15:55:05 <kakobrekla>	once the bot gets the data
Jan 08 15:55:08 <kakobrekla>	historical
Jan 08 15:55:09 <topace>	awesome
Jan 08 15:55:19 <Bugpowder>	yah, around Sept 1st
Jan 08 15:55:57 <Bugpowder>	topace, 1 @ 0.49 = 0.49
Jan 08 15:56:00 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 08 15:56:03 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120119.msg1429822#msg1429822 can't tell if retarded
Jan 08 15:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	wait. you can't tell if someone on btctalk is retarded, that's what you're saying to me ?
Jan 08 15:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4098 @ 0.00478699 = 19.6171 BTC [+]
Jan 08 15:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker KCIM
Jan 08 15:59:04 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Jan 08 15:59:11 <kakobrekla>	not yet implemented
Jan 08 15:59:33 <kakobrekla>	i think topace will expand the api first
Jan 08 15:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	aite. what's kcim anyway ?
Jan 08 16:00:19 <topace>	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=KCIM
Jan 08 16:02:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00478699 = 7.1805 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	can i short it ?
Jan 08 16:06:42 <Bugpowder>	AA beats
Jan 08 16:06:49 <Bugpowder>	gonna be a good earnings season
Jan 08 16:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	topace do you lend shares ?
Jan 08 16:09:21 <topace>	not at the moment
Jan 08 16:09:46 <topace>	i honestly dont fully undertsand the financials behind shorting, options, etc.
Jan 08 16:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	how come contract says 10k float says 833 ?
Jan 08 16:11:38 <EskimoBob>	topace: this stuff is not that complicate if you read the basics from wiki and then some more from some financial sites.
Jan 08 16:12:07 <topace>	ipo units arent in float until they are sold
Jan 08 16:12:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 863 @ 0.00477086 = 4.1173 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:12:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 337 @ 0.00470028 = 1.584 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	so basically this is a sort of bond.
Jan 08 16:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	Units of the fund ARE convertible to shares on MPEX at 1 unit = 100 shares PUSHED to your MPEX account for a fixed fee of 10 BTC per transfer (fee subject to change). Contact us by email to initiate a transfer.
Jan 08 16:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	lolz. so basically, the only way it makes sense to get a push is if you own more shares on havelock than it'd make sense to own.
Jan 08 16:13:15 <topace>	indeed
Jan 08 16:13:42 <topace>	if someone builds up slowly a lot on havelock and realizes they dont want to pay us the 5% of their dividend anymore, they can get us to move the shares to mpex
Jan 08 16:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	or in case of some emergency
Jan 08 16:13:56 <topace>	if they're paying 30BTC to open a mpex account, they can pay 10btc for us to move their shares over
Jan 08 16:14:20 <topace>	obviously, its to discourage people from constantly moving shares, as that would be annoying as hell :)
Jan 08 16:14:25 <topace>	but its there as an option
Jan 08 16:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
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Jan 08 16:15:37 <topace>	now to figure out why my ticker api is giving me nulls
Jan 08 16:16:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15856 @ 0.00064374 = 10.2071 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:16:53 <Namworld>	Ok, imagine this: ASIC do ship
Jan 08 16:17:05 <Namworld>	What then?
Jan 08 16:17:12 <Anduck>	gpu's will drop out of network
Jan 08 16:17:20 <Anduck>	(the ones who pay for electricity)
Jan 08 16:17:31 <Namworld>	Hmm. Cheap year for the used GPUs market.
Jan 08 16:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	if asics do ship im buying a 2014 calendar
Jan 08 16:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	cause obviously my 2013 one is out of date.
Jan 08 16:18:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00470028 = 5.6403 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:18:46 <Namworld>	Eheh, fun
Jan 08 16:19:34 <topace>	i wonder if the mvoe away from gpu's will hurt AMD/ATI's bottom line :p
Jan 08 16:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	doubt it
Jan 08 16:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	we mostly use discontinued models neh ?
Jan 08 16:21:57 <Namworld>	Well I think the chips were long sold when miners bought the cards from cards makers.
Jan 08 16:22:11 <Namworld>	and bought them because they were cheap.
Jan 08 16:22:31 <Anduck>	5830's or 5850's were the best
Jan 08 16:22:34 <Anduck>	i think it was 5850
Jan 08 16:22:36 <Namworld>	Might still have made more people buy the AMD/ATI newest card because of scarcity of older cards.
Jan 08 16:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20994 @ 0.00064374 = 13.5147 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9198 @ 0.00064467 = 5.9297 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18254 @ 0.00065576 = 11.9702 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15117 @ 0.00065613 = 9.9187 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3762 @ 0.00065643 = 2.4695 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:22:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.0006569 = 15.3058 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:22:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00065738 = 18.2094 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00065987 = 13.2634 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00065998 = 2.6399 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00065999 = 7.2599 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3846575 @ 0.00066 = 2538.7395 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:23:03 <Anduck>	lol
Jan 08 16:23:04 <Anduck>	LOL WOT
Jan 08 16:23:26 <kakobrekla>	fuckin dog.
Jan 08 16:23:52 <Anduck>	over 2500+ btc on S.MPOE
Jan 08 16:24:05 <mircea_popescu>	you act like that's news lol
Jan 08 16:24:36 <Namworld>	Well such large trades have happened for S.DICE/S.MPOE before.
Jan 08 16:24:49 <Namworld>	I think that was one of your blocks mircea?
Jan 08 16:24:57 <Namworld>	Well congrats.
Jan 08 16:25:09 <Bugpowder>	not bad
Jan 08 16:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah like the 2nd
Jan 08 16:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	actually 3rd
Jan 08 16:25:32 <Namworld>	Not bad? Still more than I make in a year.
Jan 08 16:25:36 <Bugpowder>	2.4 down
Jan 08 16:25:40 <Bugpowder>	2.6 to go
Jan 08 16:25:43 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: isn't it, then?
Jan 08 16:25:43 <Namworld>	Although mircea is not alone on MPEx.
Jan 08 16:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.mpoe
Jan 08 16:25:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00063085 / 0.00065692 / 0.00066 (4741455 shares, 3,114.78 BTC), 30day: 0.0005119 / 0.00061439 / 0.00066 (56821188 shares, 34,910.39 BTC)
Jan 08 16:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	but no, s.dice has the record, i think it had 13k in one day or something like that
Jan 08 16:26:10 <dub>	more than you make in a year?
Jan 08 16:26:11 <Bugpowder>	4 million shares
Jan 08 16:26:11 <Anduck>	wut
Jan 08 16:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	then again the options often do 5-10k too
Jan 08 16:26:20 <dub>	thats like minimum wage
Jan 08 16:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	i think he lives in europe
Jan 08 16:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	no wait, canadian
Jan 08 16:26:51 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 4100000 * .0037
Jan 08 16:26:52 <gribble>	15170
Jan 08 16:28:10 <topace>	on the ticker, whast the middle number? the average?   day: 0.00063085 / 0.00065692 / 0.00066
Jan 08 16:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	vwap yea
Jan 08 16:29:33 <topace>	(trying to make my havelock ticker api provide the same stats)
Jan 08 16:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	topace isn't fascinating what stuff was going on in the folds of the interwebs.
Jan 08 16:30:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.00478699 = 14.8397 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1763 @ 0.00470028 = 8.2866 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 306 @ 0.00469615 = 1.437 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00468918 = 11.4885 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.0046843 = 6.0896 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1269 @ 0.00467785 = 5.9362 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00467139 = 8.8756 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5556 @ 0.00466476 = 25.9174 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.00465281 = 15.3543 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00465075 = 8.3714 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:12 <Bugpowder>	shit
Jan 08 16:32:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5100 @ 0.00462952 = 23.6106 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0045941 = 1.3782 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3089 @ 0.00458277 = 14.1562 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1876 @ 0.00453281 = 8.5036 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3127 @ 0.00453272 = 14.1738 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550 @ 0.00452446 = 11.5374 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00451308 = 2.2565 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1162 @ 0.0045121 = 5.2431 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00450869 = 4.5087 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3550 @ 0.00450124 = 15.9794 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:32:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 33102 @ 0.00449 = 148.628 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:33:03 <Bugpowder>	sweet.  My bid got hit
Jan 08 16:33:19 <Bugpowder>	LOVE when your bid is the last bid hit in a dump
Jan 08 16:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 08 16:33:36 <mircea_popescu>	showstopper.
Jan 08 16:33:43 <Namworld>	dub, 2538.7395 BTC is more than I make in a year.
Jan 08 16:33:46 <Bugpowder>	glad I moved it down from 469
Jan 08 16:33:55 <dub>	Namworld: Sorry man
Jan 08 16:34:00 <Bugpowder>	How old?
Jan 08 16:34:04 <Bugpowder>	Nam?
Jan 08 16:34:08 <Namworld>	22
Jan 08 16:34:10 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 08 16:34:11 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 08 16:34:15 <Bugpowder>	that will change
Jan 08 16:34:24 <kakobrekla>	yes, everyone gets older.
Jan 08 16:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 08 16:34:30 <Bugpowder>	although coins will probably go up faster
Jan 08 16:34:30 <Namworld>	xD
Jan 08 16:34:36 <mircea_popescu>	40k or so isn't the worst at 22.
Jan 08 16:34:46 <Bugpowder>	its not bad at all
Jan 08 16:34:53 <Namworld>	I said I make less than that.
Jan 08 16:34:56 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 08 16:35:22 <Namworld>	Which is 35k
Jan 08 16:35:36 <Namworld>	How much I won't disclose. =P
Jan 08 16:35:36 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 08 16:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00449 / 0.00470376 / 0.0047888 (516619 shares, 2,430.06 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00339243 / 0.0048 (13849441 shares, 46,983.26 BTC)
Jan 08 16:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.00470376 / 0.00339243
Jan 08 16:37:50 <gribble>	1.38654592726
Jan 08 16:37:54 <mircea_popescu>	frightening
Jan 08 16:38:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.07 ** 4.2
Jan 08 16:38:13 <gribble>	1.32865389886
Jan 08 16:38:20 <mircea_popescu>	MOAR. it is moar.
Jan 08 16:39:03 <Bugpowder>	hah
Jan 08 16:41:09 <mircea_popescu>	Wow, I just placed an order on bitmit last night and I now have "no permission" to view the order, after paying. Were my funds taken by the new owner or something?
Jan 08 16:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	can't tell if troll or...
Jan 08 16:42:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2650 @ 0.00449 = 11.8985 BTC [-]
Jan 08 16:43:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 16:45:26 <mod6>	!ticker S.MPOE
Jan 08 16:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00063085 / 0.00065692 / 0.00066 (4741455 shares, 3,114.78 BTC), 30day: 0.0005119 / 0.00061448 / 0.00066 (56765738 shares, 34,881.43 BTC)
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Jan 08 16:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00466507 = 6.7644 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:49:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 360 @ 0.00467005 = 1.6812 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 16:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00478699 = 8.6166 BTC [+]
Jan 08 16:58:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 336 @ 0.0047582 = 1.5988 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 16:59:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 17:04:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00477613 = 10.0299 BTC [+]
Jan 08 17:04:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.0047582 = 6.1857 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 17:04:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.48 = 3.84 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:05:43 <smickles>	0_o
Jan 08 17:06:11 <smickles>	nice to see more things in the ass
Jan 08 17:06:35 <dub>	wat
Jan 08 17:06:48 <smickles>	22:04 <@assbot> [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.48 = 3.84 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 17:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 296 @ 0.0047582 = 1.4084 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:14:14 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: u from wut country?
Jan 08 17:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	i from my country which is romania
Jan 08 17:14:49 <Anduck>	i'm just telling irl friend about you and MPEX and how much one can make btc in a month by owning such exchange
Jan 08 17:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16091948 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:15:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.0647318 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:15:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.09130116 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 08 17:15:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:15:47 <mircea_popescu>	not "one" tho.
Jan 08 17:15:54 <Anduck>	well
Jan 08 17:15:59 <Anduck>	don't you own like 800k of S.MPOE?
Jan 08 17:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1 @ 0.12379657 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:16:00 <Anduck>	or 900k
Jan 08 17:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	but i'm not "one", i'm me.
Jan 08 17:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	others have tried and it worked a little worse.
Jan 08 17:16:14 <Anduck>	yes yes,
Jan 08 17:16:16 <Anduck>	me is me , you is you
Jan 08 17:16:24 <Namworld>	Mircea is not alone working on MPEx...
Jan 08 17:16:34 <Anduck>	Namworld: who coded mpe?
Jan 08 17:16:35 <Anduck>	x
Jan 08 17:16:35 <Anduck>	*
Jan 08 17:16:35 <Namworld>	He got a small team of unkown size
Jan 08 17:16:38 <Anduck>	aight
Jan 08 17:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	nobody is really ever alone.
Jan 08 17:16:47 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck tis in the faq.
Jan 08 17:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00463954 = 8.3512 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:17:01 <mircea_popescu>	one of these days you should splurge 20 bitcoins' worth of reading and read the faq lol
Jan 08 17:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4348 @ 0.00459059 = 19.9599 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:17:49 <Anduck>	it might cause brain damage, though
Jan 08 17:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it cauyses brain fixage, how do you know.
Jan 08 17:18:42 <Anduck>	never know...
Jan 08 17:19:07 <Anduck>	how many mpex-like exchanges there is?
Jan 08 17:19:14 <Anduck>	is mpex just another brick in the wall?
Jan 08 17:19:33 <mircea_popescu>	there's about half a dozen, but mpex has 9x% of the volume
Jan 08 17:19:42 <Anduck>	cool
Jan 08 17:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	sorta mtgox like situation
Jan 08 17:19:55 <Anduck>	yup
Jan 08 17:20:10 <Anduck>	which was bigger at the end of glbse, mpex or glbse?
Jan 08 17:20:33 <Namworld>	MPEx
Jan 08 17:20:46 <Anduck>	(btw, nobody was enough as to notice my PF-references??)
Jan 08 17:20:55 <Anduck>	is it S.DICE that makes it bigger, only?
Jan 08 17:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	what's pf ?
Jan 08 17:21:12 <Anduck>	pink floyd
Jan 08 17:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck s.mpoe is actually larger.
Jan 08 17:21:23 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: s.mpoe wouldnt be without S.DICE...
Jan 08 17:21:23 <Anduck>	duh
Jan 08 17:21:28 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: how about those mpex futures
Jan 08 17:21:34 <Anduck>	there wouldnt be S.MPOE if there was no S.DICE, right, mircea_popescu?
Jan 08 17:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	s.mpoe was larger when s.dice ipoed, too
Jan 08 17:21:39 <smickles>	not all that popular, it seems
Jan 08 17:21:54 <mircea_popescu>	smickles dead huh.
Jan 08 17:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.16089199 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.06470431 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:22:45 <mircea_popescu>	actually mpex trade record was sometime in september, just about when glbse was crashing
Jan 08 17:22:51 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: a problem with them is that btc are expected to rise, so buying those futures is like cashing out of btc
Jan 08 17:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	it did something under 200k in trade then
Jan 08 17:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i know, i know.
Jan 08 17:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	what's one to do.
Jan 08 17:23:20 <smickles>	if the options were cheaper, it might work
Jan 08 17:23:29 <smickles>	as if you could pull that off tho
Jan 08 17:23:59 <mircea_popescu>	the real macro problem here is that because btc and fiat are so badly decoupled
Jan 08 17:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	any non-btc/fiat signal is drowned
Jan 08 17:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	i guess in a backwards way the futures uptake is a measure of btc/fiat decouplement.
Jan 08 17:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00461461 = 2.9995 BTC [+]
Jan 08 17:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00459059 = 1.6067 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00468211 = 10.7689 BTC [+]
Jan 08 17:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1986 @ 0.00459059 = 9.1169 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.0006446 = 6.2849 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 156750 @ 0.00066 = 103.455 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 17:57:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1689 @ 0.00449001 = 7.5836 BTC [-]
Jan 08 17:59:13 <kakobrekla>	"I will tell you a secret: Dealmaking
Jan 08 17:59:13 <kakobrekla>	beats working. Dealmaking is exciting and fun, and working is
Jan 08 17:59:13 <kakobrekla>	grubby. Running anything is primarily an enormous amount of
Jan 08 17:59:13 <kakobrekla>	grubby detail work . . . dealmaking is romantic, sexy. That's
Jan 08 17:59:13 <kakobrekla>	why you have deals that make no sense."
Jan 08 17:59:16 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Jan 08 18:00:37 <jurov>	reminds me of http://xkcd.com/1060/
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Jan 08 18:02:43 <mod6>	heheh
Jan 08 18:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3442 @ 0.00449001 = 15.4546 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 18:05:13 <jurov>	omg.. when i finally stop being addicted to trash like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLBJ1geMNJc
Jan 08 18:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla that's why you have a bunch of sitcom people doing "entrepreneurship" rutines these days.
Jan 08 18:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	that misrepresentation.
Jan 08 18:06:51 <mod6>	jurov: pass me a glo stick
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Jan 08 18:07:14 <jurov>	*----*
Jan 08 18:07:19 <mod6>	hahahah
Jan 08 18:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://xkcd.com/150/
Jan 08 18:10:27 <mod6>	http://xkcd.com/153/
Jan 08 18:10:50 <kakobrekla>	btw, that quote is from Buffets shareholder letter
Jan 08 18:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	many years ago iirc
Jan 08 18:12:15 <kakobrekla>	95
Jan 08 18:14:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00450904 = 8.5672 BTC [+]
Jan 08 18:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 314 @ 0.0045325 = 1.4232 BTC [+]
Jan 08 18:14:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1508 @ 0.00457957 = 6.906 BTC [+]
Jan 08 18:18:37 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 08 18:18:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00449 / 0.00469837 / 0.0047888 (544375 shares, 2,557.68 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0033951 / 0.0048 (13880020 shares, 47,124.18 BTC)
Jan 08 18:18:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 239 @ 0.00468211 = 1.119 BTC [+]
Jan 08 18:18:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1361 @ 0.00472449 = 6.43 BTC [+]
Jan 08 18:19:39 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/embed/5ZUPniBo5UQ
Jan 08 18:19:50 <Bugpowder>	New BFL chassis
Jan 08 18:20:31 <Bugpowder>	The BIGGEST NEWS at BFL @ CES is.... Android mining software
Jan 08 18:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Jan 08 18:21:14 <mircea_popescu>	did they get hot chicks at least ?
Jan 08 18:21:43 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 08 18:22:37 <Anduck>	realy?
Jan 08 18:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is the point
Jan 08 18:24:59 <Bugpowder>	Looks like their mini rig SC  demo is gettin 980MH/s
Jan 08 18:25:06 <mircea_popescu>	Bitcoin Flakes Laboratories consist of a solitary man with a messy apartment which may or may not contain a chicken.
Jan 08 18:25:08 <mircea_popescu>	no chicks.
Jan 08 18:26:35 <Bugpowder>	oh... its an FPGA single
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Jan 08 18:27:20 <kakobrekla>	lol wtf are they gonna resell rooted nexuses
Jan 08 18:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess the battery cost would make phone mining impossible
Jan 08 18:29:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.48 = 24 BTC [-]
Jan 08 18:30:22 <Anduck>	i do not have idea
Jan 08 18:30:23 <jurov>	they can mine while charging
Jan 08 18:30:29 <Anduck>	why they dont use some cheap chinese tabs...
Jan 08 18:30:32 <Anduck>	ainol novo 7's
Jan 08 18:30:50 <jurov>	or decommissioned 386's
Jan 08 18:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3907 @ 0.00458881 = 17.9285 BTC [-]
Jan 08 18:30:56 <Anduck>	they could even resell them with permission as a part of their own product
Jan 08 18:33:38 <error3477>	wtf... [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.48 = 24 BTC [-]
Jan 08 18:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;google error3477
Jan 08 18:33:55 <error3477>	mistake ?
Jan 08 18:33:56 <gribble>	Commander Books List - kellysComics: <http://www.kellyscomics.com/commander-books-list.php>; PRB: Error "The Jet VBA File...Failed to Initialize When Called": <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192934>; 3477 East Sheffield Gilbert AZ, abetterrealty.net - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok20mdyLagE>
Jan 08 18:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	error3477 it's a passthrough
Jan 08 18:34:25 <jurov>	error3477 that's their passthrough 1000 S.DICE:1
Jan 08 18:34:45 <error3477>	ook :)
Jan 08 18:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	wait
Jan 08 18:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's trading 10% of mpex price ?!
Jan 08 18:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2975 @ 0.00472449 = 14.0554 BTC [+]
Jan 08 18:35:26 <mircea_popescu>	omg buy ?
Jan 08 18:35:57 <jurov>	no sry, it's 100:1
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Jan 08 18:38:24 <jurov>	when assbot will report sdice pt's from btct&bitfunder...now that will be hilarious
Jan 08 18:40:56 <jurov>	S.DICE to rule them all, S.DICE to find them, S.DICE to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
Jan 08 18:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00466745 = 13.5356 BTC [-]
Jan 08 18:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 64 @ 0.00472449 = 0.3024 BTC [+]
Jan 08 18:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4936 @ 0.00478699 = 23.6286 BTC [+]
Jan 08 18:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00466745 = 5.6009 BTC [-]
Jan 08 18:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 349 @ 0.00466042 = 1.6265 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 18:55:55 <dub>	wats with the hashrate variance on that BFL 'roid
Jan 08 18:56:15 <kakobrekla>	72TH mine is canceled
Jan 08 18:56:17 <dub>	high ambient at CES making it throttle
Jan 08 18:56:17 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Jan 08 18:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00466042 = 11.185 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 18:57:56 <JWU42>	dub: huh?
Jan 08 18:58:09 <JWU42>	they have a working prototype at CES?
Jan 08 18:58:13 <dub>	no
Jan 08 18:58:22 <dub>	they have an android bfgminer skin
Jan 08 18:58:33 <JWU42>	ahh
Jan 08 18:58:37 <dub>	[18:19] <Bugpowder> http://www.youtube.com/embed/5ZUPniBo5UQ
Jan 08 18:58:54 <dub>	and a rig chassis with a nexus 7 on the front
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Jan 08 19:01:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.48 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Jan 08 19:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00478696 = 4.3083 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 19:18:07 <JWU42>	HAVELOCK ?
Jan 08 19:18:22 <gigavps>	HAVEGUN?
Jan 08 19:18:42 <gigavps>	this bASIC drama is a bit overwhelming
Jan 08 19:18:47 <Anduck>	what drama?
Jan 08 19:18:50 <JWU42>	quite
Jan 08 19:18:51 <Anduck>	the march shipping
Jan 08 19:18:52 <Anduck>	?
Jan 08 19:18:57 <JWU42>	just starting idling in there
Jan 08 19:19:02 <Anduck>	okay i ask this again: who
Jan 08 19:19:04 <Anduck>	is
Jan 08 19:19:05 <Anduck>	firsy?
Jan 08 19:19:06 <Anduck>	*t
Jan 08 19:19:28 <Anduck>	who's first shipping asics out or mining with them?
Jan 08 19:19:30 <gigavps>	lol what drama
Jan 08 19:19:40 <gigavps>	nobody yet
Jan 08 19:19:45 <gigavps>	no asics
Jan 08 19:19:47 <Anduck>	but who will be
Jan 08 19:19:47 <Anduck>	?
Jan 08 19:19:49 <gigavps>	asics are never coming
Jan 08 19:19:57 <gigavps>	BFL hopefully
Jan 08 19:19:57 <Anduck>	ASICs are never coming..?
Jan 08 19:20:07 *	gigavps hugs his mini rigs
Jan 08 19:20:11 <Anduck>	hopefully.. but who realistically?
Jan 08 19:20:18 <gigavps>	no clue
Jan 08 19:20:29 <Anduck>	i got no rigs ordered from anywhere
Jan 08 19:20:34 <Anduck>	except i got a few asicminer shares
Jan 08 19:20:38 <gigavps>	avalon is now saying they don't know how much is going to ship before cny
Jan 08 19:20:50 <Anduck>	wo
Jan 08 19:20:53 <Anduck>	they delaying too?
Jan 08 19:21:01 <gigavps>	asicminer still has a month to get theirs up
Jan 08 19:21:17 <Anduck>	mm
Jan 08 19:21:17 <gigavps>	basic is under the bus with all of their customers upset
Jan 08 19:21:22 <Anduck>	yup
Jan 08 19:21:26 <gigavps>	BFL is silent
Jan 08 19:21:30 <Anduck>	but u gotta admit that the notification was shiit
Jan 08 19:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	yah asicminer has the best model for not delivering./
Jan 08 19:21:39 <Anduck>	why?
Jan 08 19:21:55 <Anduck>	i think asicminer 'll be first
Jan 08 19:22:03 <Anduck>	atleast theyve gave pics of some chips
Jan 08 19:22:08 <Anduck>	(might be asic, might be not)
Jan 08 19:22:49 <mircea_popescu>	that's besides rthe point.
Jan 08 19:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	if nobody delivers chips they're in the best position
Jan 08 19:23:05 <mircea_popescu>	cause at least they don't have a bunch of customers pissy
Jan 08 19:23:11 <mircea_popescu>	they have a bunch of "shareholders"
Jan 08 19:26:54 <dub>	somebody in #bitcoin a few hours ago said they got an email from BFL yesterday quoting a march ship
Jan 08 19:27:02 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu just like you have an "exchange" with "shareholders"
Jan 08 19:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	not at all.
Jan 08 19:27:24 <thestringpuller>	i was being sarcastic
Jan 08 19:27:25 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 08 19:27:29 <thestringpuller>	long day
Jan 08 19:27:45 <mircea_popescu>	teh ppl with asicminer shares get pissed off what are they gonna do ? sell on forum ?
Jan 08 19:28:31 <thestringpuller>	file mpex suit
Jan 08 19:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol right
Jan 08 19:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	does the guy even have a signature ?
Jan 08 19:28:42 <thestringpuller>	rota court is in session
Jan 08 19:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, lots of nfl action on bitbet. whodda thunk it.
Jan 08 19:29:13 <dub>	prolly not, he named himself after his fav food
Jan 08 19:29:31 <Namworld>	hey gigavps, how long till your lawyer answers?
Jan 08 19:29:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 354 @ 0.00473087 = 1.6747 BTC [-]
Jan 08 19:29:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2496 @ 0.00476298 = 11.8884 BTC [+]
Jan 08 19:29:40 <Namworld>	He's pretty silent.
Jan 08 19:29:40 <thestringpuller>	Bet: Falcons makes it to the super bowl
Jan 08 19:31:22 <dub>	I havent looked and don't have keys handy, is coinbr letting us place bitbet orders for the IPO?
Jan 08 19:31:34 <thestringpuller>	was there a UFO sighting?
Jan 08 19:32:02 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 08 19:32:03 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 8 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <smickles> as if you could pull that off tho
Jan 08 19:32:19 <jurov>	dub, yes
Jan 08 19:32:35 <dub>	jurov: cool, thanks
Jan 08 19:33:00 <mircea_popescu>	looks like it's gonna sell out that.
Jan 08 19:33:29 <jurov>	dub, if you want to fund, hurry.
Jan 08 19:33:36 <thestringpuller>	at what price
Jan 08 19:33:52 <jurov>	i'll go to sleep, then before i wake up, mircea will go to sleep, etc.
Jan 08 19:33:52 <dub>	jurov: still 2 days away from IPO no?
Jan 08 19:34:14 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what are IPO prices for S.BitBet
Jan 08 19:34:24 <jurov>	yeash, we'll manage to get the funds in place till that
Jan 08 19:35:03 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.BVPS
Jan 08 19:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.00200003 / 0.0034158 / 0.0067 (14758 shares, 50.41 BTC)
Jan 08 19:35:13 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller a little more complex system, it's in teh contract.
Jan 08 19:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/2/ lmao @ discussion.
Jan 08 19:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	tru anonimity!
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Jan 08 19:36:27 <thestringpuller>	Boromir
Jan 08 19:36:29 <thestringpuller>	One does not simply crash into MPEx
Jan 08 19:36:29 <dub>	heh
Jan 08 19:36:34 *	midnightmagic is now known as Guest56134
Jan 08 19:37:05 <dub>	I take it the third comment is suggesting if MPOE is goes so does btc
Jan 08 19:37:16 <dub>	s/is//
Jan 08 19:37:37 <thestringpuller>	cat comments | sed
Jan 08 19:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	dub i like the odds tho. it's like... 300:1 but "we win nothing"
Jan 08 19:38:02 <mircea_popescu>	dawg...
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Jan 08 19:39:22 <dub>	dude that captcha is HARD
Jan 08 19:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	mhm.
Jan 08 19:39:53 <dub>	roman numerals, what is this, junior school
Jan 08 19:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Jan 08 19:41:00 <mircea_popescu>	literally.
Jan 08 19:41:39 <thestringpuller>	mr. popescu
Jan 08 19:41:45 <thestringpuller>	option
Jan 08 19:41:48 <thestringpuller>	emporium
Jan 08 19:41:52 <thestringpuller>	I get it
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Jan 08 19:41:58 <thestringpuller>	like da movie
Jan 08 19:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	what movie ?
Jan 08 19:43:52 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu
Jan 08 19:43:57 <Anduck>	u all day at comp?
Jan 08 19:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	depends.
Jan 08 19:44:17 <Anduck>	2nd:
Jan 08 19:44:23 <Anduck>	why is there no clear odds?
Jan 08 19:45:17 <Anduck>	at bitbetus
Jan 08 19:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	"clear odds" means what ?
Jan 08 19:46:34 <Anduck>	like..
Jan 08 19:46:42 <Anduck>	1.54 / 1.34
Jan 08 19:46:54 <Anduck>	u win ur bet 1.54 times
Jan 08 19:47:00 <Anduck>	on yes
Jan 08 19:47:02 <Anduck>	and 1.34 on no
Jan 08 19:47:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/27/
Jan 08 19:47:09 <mircea_popescu>	1.01 : 20.08
Jan 08 19:47:11 <thestringpuller>	mr. magoos wonderful emporium or something
Jan 08 19:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	seems pretty clear
Jan 08 19:47:40 <Anduck>	well
Jan 08 19:47:52 <Anduck>	it doesnt say clearly how much you win if you bet x amount
Jan 08 19:47:55 <Anduck>	i mean..
Jan 08 19:47:59 <Anduck>	there's no multiplier!!!
Jan 08 19:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	it's mutual betting.
Jan 08 19:48:18 <Anduck>	should state like Yes: 1.35, No: 1.679whatevr
Jan 08 19:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	that's line betting.
Jan 08 19:48:35 <Anduck>	ok
Jan 08 19:48:35 <mircea_popescu>	i can't believe people's reaction is "we should be stolen from".
Jan 08 19:48:46 <mircea_popescu>	dude. the absence of a bookie means you're not being fucked in the ass.
Jan 08 19:53:39 <dub>	I demand an assfucking!
Jan 08 19:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	jus for you http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135762166366.jpg
Jan 08 19:55:32 <dub>	im sure thats sfw
Jan 08 19:55:38 <dub>	let me click right on that
Jan 08 19:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	its not sfw.
Jan 08 19:56:08 <dub>	nowai
Jan 08 19:56:13 <mircea_popescu>	honest.
Jan 08 19:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 754 @ 0.00476298 = 3.5913 BTC [+]
Jan 08 19:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 736 @ 0.00478696 = 3.5232 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 20:06:20 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile back at glbse headquarters http://pjmedia.com/blog/did-obama-and-holder-scuttle-terror-finance-prosecutions/
Jan 08 20:07:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00467325 = 5.1406 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 20:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 222 @ 0.00467325 = 1.0375 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 20:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00065877 = 1.581 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 20:33:58 <dub>	rails gets railed http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/01/extremely-crtical-ruby-on-rails-bug-threatens-more-than-200000-sites/
Jan 08 20:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00478696 = 7.1804 BTC [+]
Jan 08 20:35:52 <thestringpuller>	lo
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Jan 08 20:41:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00478247 = 1.913 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 20:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1051 @ 0.00471275 = 4.9531 BTC [-]
Jan 08 20:45:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 383 @ 0.00467325 = 1.7899 BTC [-]
Jan 08 20:53:58 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 08 20:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 376 @ 0.00467325 = 1.7571 BTC [-]
Jan 08 20:54:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1043 @ 0.00466765 = 4.8684 BTC [-]
Jan 08 20:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 31 @ 0.00466042 = 0.1445 BTC [-]
Jan 08 20:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	mpex safety announcement : mpex uses no ruby on rails or anything else at all.
Jan 08 20:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun.
Jan 08 20:59:36 <dub>	vim: the one true CMS
Jan 08 20:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	and everything else.
Jan 08 20:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	tho i think half of it is written in nano
Jan 08 20:59:59 <dub>	eww
Jan 08 21:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	update their systems as soon as possible to versions 3.2.11, 3.1.10, 3.0.19, or 2.3.15
Jan 08 21:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck is maintainijng that package lmao
Jan 08 21:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	they have three stable 3's ?
Jan 08 21:02:05 <dub>	fuck this si some mind numbing shit
Jan 08 21:02:10 <dub>	building network records
Jan 08 21:02:19 <dub>	fuck. ing. sucks.
Jan 08 21:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 08 21:06:47 <thestringpuller>	;;seen Ukto
Jan 08 21:06:48 <gribble>	Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <Ukto> I was actually just thinking about contacting you
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Jan 08 21:10:54 <smickles>	heh, thestringpuller has been replaced by ;;seen-bot
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Jan 08 21:23:43 <thestringpuller>	smickles: sup
Jan 08 21:25:05 <kakobrekla>	to whoever might be interested, you can now search bitbet by bitcoin address, and mix that with keywords etc
Jan 08 21:27:46 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: havent had a chance to test
Jan 08 21:27:50 <Ukto>	my computer tried to die
Jan 08 21:27:56 <Ukto>	besides
Jan 08 21:28:04 <Ukto>	it will take me a few days to test
Jan 08 21:28:14 <Ukto>	i think it will take at least 10hrs of play to get to disc2
Jan 08 21:30:48 <smickles>	Ukto: the original baldur's gate?
Jan 08 21:31:15 <smickles>	there were 5 or 6 disks on that game
Jan 08 21:32:59 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 08 21:33:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.80302, Best ask: 13.82999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02697, Last trade: 13.83000, 24 hour volume: 39611.17893164, 24 hour low: 13.55011, 24 hour high: 13.87998, 24 hour vwap: 13.73806
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Jan 08 21:35:37 <mircea_popescu>	baldur gate was cool
Jan 08 21:36:28 <smickles>	agreed, I find myself going back to it from time to time
Jan 08 21:36:57 <Ukto>	smickles: ff7
Jan 08 21:37:14 <Ukto>	hadntl played bg in a long time
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Jan 08 21:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1236 @ 0.00466572 = 5.7668 BTC [+]
Jan 08 21:56:53 <Namworld>	baldur's gate is nice. So is FF7
Jan 08 21:57:13 <Namworld>	But I prefer FF6
Jan 08 21:58:46 <mircea_popescu>	Not really. They're not at the LVCC, but at the Sands Convention Centre. That's like half an hour away from the "real" CES.
Jan 08 21:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	ouch.
Jan 08 22:01:08 <dub>	meanwhile in libertarianism http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/01/the-deport-piers-morgan-creator-blows-up-on-cnn-153577.html?ml=po_r
Jan 08 22:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	"What makes it possible to buy drugs with Tide is not because Tide is useful as a detergent. It’s because drug dealers and users have agreed that it is currency."
Jan 08 22:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	forbes, now with extra esl.
Jan 08 22:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck.
Jan 08 22:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	why are people like this allowed to write ?
Jan 08 22:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1079 @ 0.0046899 = 5.0604 BTC [+]
Jan 08 22:14:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 588 @ 0.00469194 = 2.7589 BTC [+]
Jan 08 22:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 380 @ 0.00469194 = 1.7829 BTC [+]
Jan 08 22:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00469194 = 1.8768 BTC [+]
Jan 08 22:24:09 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Jan 08 22:24:15 <gribble>	1 BTC = 13.75002 U.S. dollars = 10.5227061 Euros
Jan 08 22:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00466572 = 3.7326 BTC [-]
Jan 08 22:32:29 <kakobrekla>	lol that alex guy
Jan 08 22:32:37 <kakobrekla>	a monkey is smarter than that.
Jan 08 22:35:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00468285 = 5.3853 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 22:41:20 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, that entire article is full of shit
Jan 08 22:41:27 <Diablo-D3>	I read it earlier
Jan 08 22:41:35 <Diablo-D3>	Tide _is_ useful as a detergent
Jan 08 22:41:48 <Diablo-D3>	its the only one left on the market that they havent raped the forumula to
Jan 08 22:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 264 @ 0.00466572 = 1.2318 BTC [-]
Jan 08 22:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 308 @ 0.00466042 = 1.4354 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 22:47:28 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/forbes-now-with-a-little-extra-esl-and-a-whole-lot-of-extra-stupid/
Jan 08 22:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	an' i hope he chokes on it.
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Jan 08 22:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00065877 = 3.4915 BTC [-]
Jan 08 22:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 563 @ 0.00466042 = 2.6238 BTC [-]
Jan 08 22:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 237 @ 0.00465713 = 1.1037 BTC [-]
Jan 08 22:58:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00468285 = 4.2146 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 23:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00466274 = 3.0308 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 23:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00466274 = 3.7302 BTC [-]
Jan 08 23:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00465822 = 1.6304 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 23:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00468285 = 0.2341 BTC [+]
Jan 08 23:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00468405 = 2.1078 BTC [+]
Jan 08 23:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 282 @ 0.00469194 = 1.3231 BTC [+]
Jan 08 23:28:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1620 @ 0.00471475 = 7.6379 BTC [+]
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Jan 08 23:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	However, recent evidence suggests that Duqu may have been written in Object Oriented C (OO C) and compiled in Microsoft Visual Studio 2008.
Jan 08 23:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha omg that'd be the end all.
Jan 08 23:48:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1277 @ 0.00465713 = 5.9472 BTC [-]
Jan 08 23:53:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 236 @ 0.00465713 = 1.0991 BTC [-]
Jan 08 23:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1070 @ 0.0046549 = 4.9807 BTC [-]
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Jan 08 23:56:03 <Namworld>	argh I'm tired
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Jan 08 23:56:10 <Namworld>	Once again no credit
Jan 08 23:56:33 <Namworld>	I have to learn to stop clicking on polimedia links.
Jan 08 23:56:48 <Namworld>	I don't know why but I can never read anything.
Jan 08 23:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://forums.radioreference.com/community-announcements-news/257379-ask-rr-would-you-pay-subscription-bitcoins.html#post1889295
Jan 08 23:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	this is great.
Jan 08 23:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	"If there were more robust security, in the bit coin infrastructure. I'd consider it, but as its setup now, not very likely. "
Jan 08 23:59:45 <mircea_popescu>	"Bitcoins, in theory, could become the next universal currency. However, they are a pain to obtain (if you're not buying them outright) and the security model could use some work."
Jan 08 23:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	i guess i'd better buy vitriol.
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Jan 09 00:01:10 <Namworld>	"the security model" could use some work.
Jan 09 00:02:30 <Namworld>	what the fuck?
Jan 09 00:02:33 <JohnGalt2>	yeah those morons want centralized shit and to reverse transactions. Because that's what they used to and they gave all their responsibilities to nanny governments
Jan 09 00:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	its a very funny read, to me.
Jan 09 00:03:15 <mircea_popescu>	this very entrenched western notion that everyone's entitled to an opinion.
Jan 09 00:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	best thing for comedy.
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Jan 09 00:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 330 @ 0.00471475 = 1.5559 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 682 @ 0.00472303 = 3.2211 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 188 @ 0.00473903 = 0.8909 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:09:00 <Namworld>	Someone should post something.
Jan 09 00:09:18 <kakobrekla>	post
Jan 09 00:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1312 @ 0.00473903 = 6.2176 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:09:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00474657 = 3.0853 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:09:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 38 @ 0.00474845 = 0.1804 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:09:27 <Namworld>	Ok
Jan 09 00:09:57 <kakobrekla>	im gonna open a chocholate beer i think
Jan 09 00:10:09 <Namworld>	Hey... I want one.
Jan 09 00:11:36 <kakobrekla>	http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8010/7467168670_727523ac12_z.jpg
Jan 09 00:16:42 <kakobrekla>	woah
Jan 09 00:16:47 <kakobrekla>	this aint bad at all.
Jan 09 00:24:38 <kakobrekla>	http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/13/controversial-surgery-for-addiction-burns-away-brains-pleasure-center/
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Jan 09 00:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9292 @ 0.00064183 = 5.9639 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4354 @ 0.00063645 = 2.7711 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1681 @ 0.0006363 = 1.0696 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00471394 = 6.1281 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00468492 = 3.2794 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:28:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00468424 = 5.6211 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:28:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.0046549 = 10.7063 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:33:35 <Namworld>	Ok, well maybe we need to get some "stupidized" bitcoin explanation
Jan 09 00:33:51 <Namworld>	A bitcoin for dummies kind of thing...
Jan 09 00:34:04 <kakobrekla>	why
Jan 09 00:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	yes. why ?
Jan 09 00:35:19 <Namworld>	Well because it needs to be super short for the short attention span of people inquiring about Bitcoins.
Jan 09 00:35:31 <Namworld>	Well although I guess we already have that.
Jan 09 00:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	you don't get it.
Jan 09 00:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	why do we want stupid people ?
Jan 09 00:36:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 710 @ 0.00474845 = 3.3714 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:36:21 <Graet>	we will get them whether they want opr not
Jan 09 00:36:46 <JohnGalt2>	because we want the stupid people money
Jan 09 00:37:06 <Graet>	most of them dont really understand how fiat or credit cards actually "work" but use them daily, but feel they need to know every intracacy of bitcoin before using it
Jan 09 00:37:08 <Graet>	shrug
Jan 09 00:37:15 <Namworld>	We don't want them, we want the business. Why is apple making so much money? For selling easy to use and elegant products. And they milk their customer base as much as possible.
Jan 09 00:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	Graet yes, we will get them either way. they're worthless. why bother ?
Jan 09 00:37:51 <Namworld>	They don't need to even know that much about Bitcoin.
Jan 09 00:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	apple is possibly the single worst comparison to btc
Jan 09 00:38:09 <Graet>	thats what i said Namworld ;)
Jan 09 00:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	we are exactly diametrically opposed in every single aspect
Jan 09 00:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	simple example : satoshi is dead, btc benefits from it. jobs is dead, apple is doomed.
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Jan 09 00:39:46 <kakobrekla>	satoshi is not dead
Jan 09 00:39:55 <JohnGalt2>	if btc benefits from a dead satoshi, then let's kill him?
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Jan 09 00:40:13 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla prove it ?
Jan 09 00:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00474564 = 4.7456 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:40:34 <Namworld>	Probably not that great a comparison. But they don't need to know that much about it. If they didn't have such misconception of Bitcoins, they wouldn't oppose using it and could use a third party processor. Yes, there's still the payment processor, but there's less fees and it doesn't support the archaic closed credit card/banking system.
Jan 09 00:40:36 <kakobrekla>	wanna bet
Jan 09 00:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	JohnGalt2 im just making the point that in the sense jobs is dead (ie, no longer driving apple) so is satoshi
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Jan 09 00:41:00 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld their misconceptions are for the greater good.
Jan 09 00:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	they don't belong mucking up bitcoin
Jan 09 00:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	and no, we don't want their business, either.
Jan 09 00:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	their business is very expensive. rape-them-in-the-ass corps like banks etc are very good at keeping their idiocy expensiveness low while turning a buck
Jan 09 00:41:42 <Namworld>	What impact does it make that they'd use Bitcoins?
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Jan 09 00:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	but the effort and expertise involved in doing this are much more than what's needed to make asics
Jan 09 00:42:33 <JohnGalt2>	Namworld: A lot of the stupid people don't want to have fancy internet money without having a possibility to reverse transactions
Jan 09 00:42:44 <Namworld>	Ah, that.
Jan 09 00:42:55 <JohnGalt2>	They're not used it to it because of their nanny governments
Jan 09 00:43:19 <mircea_popescu>	they're expensive, it's simple.
Jan 09 00:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	it costs to supply their needs more than they are capable of paying.
Jan 09 00:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 902 @ 0.00474845 = 4.2831 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00475265 = 3.3269 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:43:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00475518 = 2.3776 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2274 @ 0.00477726 = 10.8635 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	why do you think banks wouldn't take most poor people's accounts if they weren't legally forced to ?
Jan 09 00:43:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 35624 @ 0.00478695 = 170.5303 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:44:38 <Namworld>	I don't see that argument as valid. As the supplier, you set the price and service provided for it.
Jan 09 00:44:42 <mircea_popescu>	...
Jan 09 00:44:47 <JohnGalt2>	I don't think every user needs to understand how bitcoin works entirely. I don't, I'm not interested in the IT stuff, I'm interested in the moneyz stuf
Jan 09 00:44:53 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 09 00:44:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00449 / 0.004709 / 0.004787 (583698 shares, 2,748.64 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00340446 / 0.0048 (13963747 shares, 47,539.11 BTC)
Jan 09 00:45:01 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 09 00:45:02 <Namworld>	That you take bitcoins or not, your local government could force you to provide services regardless.
Jan 09 00:45:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.70001, Best ask: 13.72855, Bid-ask spread: 0.02854, Last trade: 13.70000, 24 hour volume: 32942.91842052, 24 hour low: 13.61100, 24 hour high: 13.87998, 24 hour vwap: 13.76016
Jan 09 00:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	what local government ?
Jan 09 00:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	there's no government that's local to the internet.
Jan 09 00:45:41 <kakobrekla>	most of people driving cars dont know how internal combustion works.
Jan 09 00:45:58 <kakobrekla>	its same with anything thats more than a stick and a stone and many people use
Jan 09 00:46:24 <Namworld>	I'm not talking about internet only. Just various other services.
Jan 09 00:46:29 <JohnGalt2>	exactly
Jan 09 00:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	i guess this discussion became to vague to continue/
Jan 09 00:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	point remains. we don't want the average joe and his 3-9 dollar transaction.
Jan 09 00:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	nobody does eitgher, but that's besides the point. we don't,.
Jan 09 00:47:41 <Namworld>	What if I sell 3-9 dollars thing?
Jan 09 00:47:49 <kakobrekla>	i dont care if joe comes or not, i just know he doenst have to know how it works to use it
Jan 09 00:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld then bitcoin isn't for you.
Jan 09 00:48:15 <JohnGalt2>	Yes, we do want Joe with his 3-9 dollarz. Bitcoin needs growth, maybe he'll buy more bitcoins after that
Jan 09 00:48:23 <Namworld>	Why?
Jan 09 00:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	because, Namworld, the costs of administering this sort of business exceed your profits from doing it.
Jan 09 00:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	in simple terms : you can't afford btc.
Jan 09 00:49:19 <kakobrekla>	depends
Jan 09 00:49:39 <kakobrekla>	in RL the biggest cost of small bills are the billing itself
Jan 09 00:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't really depend. we have centuries of accumulated experience in trade. by now things are pretty well known
Jan 09 00:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00478695 = 1.9148 BTC [+]
Jan 09 00:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla yes, that is true.
Jan 09 00:50:08 <Namworld>	But it does not exceed the costs... otherwise capitalism wouldn't work because pretty much nothing brings any profit?
Jan 09 00:50:36 <Bugpowder>	Details	2013-01-09 01:51:31	lessthan 16000	de2012c9	3148068f	1HbHbFK	CONFIRMED	435.00000000	LOSE	2.17450000	41970 Details	2013-01-09 01:50:43	lessthan 16000	d463f567	faa9a2d8	19LQ1zn	CONFIRMED	435.00000000	LOSE	2.17450000	53146 Details	2013-01-09 01:49:33	lessthan 16000	f3d916d3	c4273fff	1Bw9MTr	CONFIRMED	435.00000000	LOSE	2.17450000	52002 Details	2013-01-09 01:48:04	lessthan 16000	881eda89	5a2d111b	1Fh2Rjd	CONFIRMED	327.680
Jan 09 00:50:44 <Bugpowder>	sory
Jan 09 00:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	that's an unwarranted generalisation.
Jan 09 00:51:32 <Namworld>	Well than all consumerism in america is unprofitable if the 3-9 dollar transaction exceeds profits.
Jan 09 00:52:16 <Namworld>	That bottle of Coke that costs 10 cent to make is not profitable to sell under 1$ and Coke doesn't earn any revenue.
Jan 09 00:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Jan 09 00:52:38 <mircea_popescu>	the 3-9 transactions work on an economy of scale model
Jan 09 00:52:51 <mircea_popescu>	if you aggregate one billion of them you can squeeze a little profit
Jan 09 00:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	but you lack all the many tools that the banks use to turn this green.
Jan 09 00:53:41 <Namworld>	and Bitcoin is designed to further help the profit margin. The bitcoin is designed to facilitate micro-transactions.
Jan 09 00:53:53 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that it is designed to do it does not mean you are the one to do it.
Jan 09 00:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00474564 = 0.7118 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:53:53 <kakobrekla>	that is true, yet i have seen bitcoin margins so ridiculusly high, you dont need volume
Jan 09 00:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 291 @ 0.00467378 = 1.3601 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 556 @ 0.0046549 = 2.5881 BTC [-]
Jan 09 00:53:59 <Namworld>	For which transaction fees would be too large for 1-5$ transactions.
Jan 09 00:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	this is the asic argument all over again
Jan 09 00:54:13 <kakobrekla>	why are the margins like they are, thats another question
Jan 09 00:54:18 <kakobrekla>	with at least 2 anwers
Jan 09 00:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that asic fab plants are designed to make custom chips
Jan 09 00:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	does not mean bfl will be making asics.
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Jan 09 00:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	in principle, for every degree of magnitude the transaction goes down, your fixed costs go up one and a half.
Jan 09 00:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	you need to be a multi-billion corp to process sub 10 dollar transactions effectually.
Jan 09 00:55:45 <kakobrekla>	in RL ya
Jan 09 00:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	in bitcoin it is atm even worse
Jan 09 00:56:13 <mircea_popescu>	note, im not saying that by 2050 or w/e all these fabulous economies of scale baked in by design won't be working full bore
Jan 09 00:56:18 <kakobrekla>	to _process_ it doesnt cost anything
Jan 09 00:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	all im saying is that the average small biz does not find itself in a position to do this.
Jan 09 00:56:52 <kakobrekla>	i see what you mean
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Jan 09 00:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	90%+ of all small businesses that tried bitcoin discovered this on their own timeand dime
Jan 09 00:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	this obviously is unavoidable, seeing how they couldn't afford to hire me to tell them this, and wouldn't have made sense of it anyway.
Jan 09 00:57:28 <Namworld>	Well then we also don't need small gamblers on SatoshiDice or BitVPS is not profitable with it's sub 10 dollar plans. So are small sellers accepting bitcoins and etc, online or not.
Jan 09 00:57:30 <kakobrekla>	but bitcoin is small, still.
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Jan 09 00:57:46 <kakobrekla>	not small, tiny.
Jan 09 00:57:56 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE benefits from small gamblers
Jan 09 00:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld the hosting industry may be the one single place where my above judgements may be shown mistaken
Jan 09 00:58:03 <Bugpowder>	lowers variance
Jan 09 00:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	because of very speciffic characteristics.
Jan 09 00:58:19 <kakobrekla>	Buglouse blockchain suffers from small gambers on sd
Jan 09 00:58:21 <Bugpowder>	and incremental transaction costs are near zero
Jan 09 00:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	and s.dice takes small gamblers because it's very easy to provide the service to them.
Jan 09 00:58:22 <kakobrekla>	:p
Jan 09 00:58:23 <Namworld>	Well it's indeed quite mostly automation and all online.
Jan 09 00:58:24 <kakobrekla>	fuck
Jan 09 00:58:25 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't deliver anything
Jan 09 00:58:25 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder
Jan 09 00:58:30 <kakobrekla>	srs whats with this bug nicks
Jan 09 00:58:31 <JohnGalt>	3-9$ transactions would work fine for small takeaway or coffee shops
Jan 09 00:58:33 <mircea_popescu>	no gambler can pick up the phone and complain about damaged deliveries.
Jan 09 00:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	or want to return
Jan 09 00:58:55 <Namworld>	But that's exactly the problem that would get solved without such opposition. Bitcoin could get lower transaction costs with easier availability through more demand/offer.
Jan 09 00:58:58 <Bugpowder>	60 BTC / mo fixed cost
Jan 09 00:59:02 <mircea_popescu>	JohnGalt it has been proven not to work > 20 times so far.
Jan 09 00:59:05 <Bugpowder>	it has economy of scale
Jan 09 00:59:07 <Rothgar>	hello
Jan 09 00:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	hi.
Jan 09 00:59:43 <Rothgar>	:)
Jan 09 00:59:44 <Namworld>	using phones to pay in bitcoins wuld be feasible for a much lower fee than the credit card conglomerate/payment processors are trying to offer.
Jan 09 01:00:02 <Namworld>	Which would allow even small shop to process smaller transactions with more profitability.
Jan 09 01:00:15 <Namworld>	Agreed that it's not currently feasible.
Jan 09 01:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	you're stubornly focusing on irrelevant detail.
Jan 09 01:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't matter what the payment "costs" in your estimation.
Jan 09 01:00:37 <mircea_popescu>	what matters is how much dealing with people ACTUALLY costs.
Jan 09 01:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	dealing with poor people is very expensive.
Jan 09 01:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	handling small transactions is very expensive.
Jan 09 01:01:12 <Namworld>	Dealing with someone who enters and at the register pays for something is fast and inexpensive...
Jan 09 01:01:21 <Namworld>	even if the person is poor...
Jan 09 01:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	a well.
Jan 09 01:01:31 <Namworld>	or pays for not much.
Jan 09 01:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	it's right in front of your eyes dude.
Jan 09 01:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	they're not poor as an accident of fate
Jan 09 01:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	they're poor because they're stupid.
Jan 09 01:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	that means they will introduce friction
Jan 09 01:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	that further means you will be spending your time doing the impossible.
Jan 09 01:02:19 <kakobrekla>	a wait
Jan 09 01:02:23 <Bugpowder>	holy shit
Jan 09 01:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	such as, for instance, explaining to those idiots on that article quoted why they're wrong
Jan 09 01:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	in such terms as they'd be able to grasp
Jan 09 01:02:33 <Bugpowder>	That set of losses I posted
Jan 09 01:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	this feat costs exponentially more the dumber they are.
Jan 09 01:02:53 <kakobrekla>	>>See that picture ? The poor schmucks in that picture are likely more intelligent, more dilligent and generally better human beings than Gobry. Unfortunately for them, they didn’t have the obscene good fortune of being born in this part of the world. As a result, they’re dicking around packing mud while this worthless fuckwit goes about farting self-delusions of “strategic global
Jan 09 01:02:53 <kakobrekla>	issues” and whatnot.
Jan 09 01:03:00 <Bugpowder>	was from one guy starting with a 0.01BTC bet on less than 16000, and doubling it every loss
Jan 09 01:03:12 <Bugpowder>	until he lost 2000 BTC
Jan 09 01:03:15 <Bugpowder>	and gave up
Jan 09 01:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah nowai Bugpowder ?
Jan 09 01:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	i guess deposit soon ?
Jan 09 01:03:37 <Namworld>	Yes. But as far as I know most most brick and mortar business have to do that bitcoin or not and while not all manage to succeed at it, many remain in business, wether small or large.
Jan 09 01:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	no. they do not manage to stay in business.
Jan 09 01:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	there's a reason for chains and franchises and payment processors being centralised
Jan 09 01:04:06 <mircea_popescu>	and so forth.
Jan 09 01:04:09 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu are those chaps unfortunate or stupid?
Jan 09 01:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla the problem with macroeconomy is that those terms aren't distinct.
Jan 09 01:05:04 <mircea_popescu>	think in terms of girl looking for a husband. does she care if he;'s lucky or smart ?
Jan 09 01:05:06 <Namworld>	The reason is that it's more cost effective and branding brings clients.
Jan 09 01:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	she doesn't. she cares if he's gonna feed her babies.
Jan 09 01:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	no namworld. the reason is that people can't afford to stay in business
Jan 09 01:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	under the crushing pressure of the huge costs of the 3-9 dollars transaction.
Jan 09 01:05:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.0046549 = 4.1894 BTC [-]
Jan 09 01:05:53 <Namworld>	...
Jan 09 01:06:48 <Namworld>	but those costs are very close for a chain convenience store or a personally owned one, for example... there's plenty of non-affiliated small businesses handling small transactions left.
Jan 09 01:07:03 <mircea_popescu>	not at all.
Jan 09 01:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	the chain can tell customers to go get fucked.
Jan 09 01:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	which it regularly does.
Jan 09 01:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	go try and complain to your phone company, as a fuine example.
Jan 09 01:08:07 <Namworld>	Well I can't speak for Romania. But I see small businesses staying around and in all apparence, doing well.
Jan 09 01:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	you see small service businesses staying around.
Jan 09 01:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	and even those have been taking a beating of horror past 10-20 years.
Jan 09 01:09:01 <kakobrekla>	small businesses are small businesses cause they arent large businesses
Jan 09 01:09:27 <Namworld>	Just as I see small providers competing with larger corps with better services. They still turn a profit and stick around.
Jan 09 01:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	small businesses are either a) going bankrupt (happens to 90% ish of them) or else in a new niche.
Jan 09 01:09:45 <Namworld>	It's harder and there's less margins. It's just not impossible.
Jan 09 01:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	im sorry, you must be from an alternate universe. why would i be doing something at a competitive disadvantage ?
Jan 09 01:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	if it's harder and it pays less i'm out of there.
Jan 09 01:11:34 <Namworld>	Because if you work for the corporation, you get paid even less.
Jan 09 01:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Jan 09 01:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	you know, business is business, not survival.
Jan 09 01:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	it has to earn.
Jan 09 01:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	im not looking for a way to employ myself.
Jan 09 01:12:41 <Namworld>	Your margins are lower for the business, but the profit is better for the owner. As for employees, they're probably paid a similar pay.
Jan 09 01:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	the owner/business distinction is spurious.
Jan 09 01:13:34 <Namworld>	Well there's incentive as to create and keep the small business running as long as that advantage for the owner exists.
Jan 09 01:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
Jan 09 01:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	in general it's irrational to expend your resources at a comparative disadvantage.
Jan 09 01:14:00 <Namworld>	That you have a 20% margin and your large competitor has 30% matters not if you get enough sales at 20% that you get a nice yearly earning.
Jan 09 01:14:32 <Namworld>	The owners just has to work for it. But I think that's a work/reward ratio that's still attractive.
Jan 09 01:14:35 <Bugpowder>	the more profitable one will crush you
Jan 09 01:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	it absolutely matters lol
Jan 09 01:14:44 <Bugpowder>	they will invest more
Jan 09 01:14:49 <Bugpowder>	they will destroy you
Jan 09 01:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	they might destroy you even if you have 10x their margins
Jan 09 01:15:02 <Bugpowder>	otherwise they will be destroyed
Jan 09 01:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	but to go into this when they hold the upper hand is folly.
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Jan 09 01:16:11 <Namworld>	It is folly, maybe. Many fails on that path. Most small businesses go bankrupt indeed. But some succeed.
Jan 09 01:16:55 <Namworld>	That this percentage is quite low matters not. It remains an incentive to exploit any opportunity.
Jan 09 01:17:14 <Namworld>	Bitcoins could help by making small transactions more accessible at lower costs.
Jan 09 01:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	they will make more expensive customers accessible,w hich will sink you.
Jan 09 01:20:21 <Namworld>	Well if it hasn't sunk small convenience stores and shops/restaurants, and still don't, I don't see why that would change anything.
Jan 09 01:20:35 <Namworld>	They already cater to the most "expensive" customers.
Jan 09 01:21:04 <mircea_popescu>	the most expensive customer in the world is the guy buying a 3-9 dollar trinket over the internet.
Jan 09 01:21:34 <Namworld>	Well I don't purport bitcoins would be good for users buying online for small amounts.
Jan 09 01:22:09 <Namworld>	I say they would in lieu of credit card for small transaction in shops.
Jan 09 01:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	not really. it meets nobody;s needs.
Jan 09 01:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 675 @ 0.00475997 = 3.213 BTC [+]
Jan 09 01:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 525 @ 0.00478695 = 2.5131 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 01:23:09 <Namworld>	Not right now.
Jan 09 01:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	merchant wants ensured funds, customer wants reversible transaction and balance protection
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Jan 09 01:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	cc companies offer all these, and rely on the state to police it all.
Jan 09 01:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin has not the subsidy of the state, and can't offer either safety for the merchant or reversibility for the customer.
Jan 09 01:23:58 <Namworld>	Ah, I suppose.
Jan 09 01:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin exists so a guy in china can be paid for 10 containers of tvs
Jan 09 01:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	not so that fifty people can buy a coffee each.
Jan 09 01:24:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 890 @ 0.00478695 = 4.2604 BTC [+]
Jan 09 01:24:34 <Namworld>	Well agreed that as a vehicle for transfer of value for large transactions, bitcoins would be ideal.
Jan 09 01:25:18 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Jan 09 01:25:25 <mircea_popescu>	once it becomes the standard there it will trickle down
Jan 09 01:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	historically the cheque was used by the rich
Jan 09 01:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	it eventually became standard for everyone.
Jan 09 01:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	historically electronic payments were bank-only.
Jan 09 01:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	then the credit card made them ubiqutous.
Jan 09 01:26:01 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoins for the masses happens in a decade or two.
Jan 09 01:26:12 <Namworld>	Well I'm not saying right away bitcoins should be used in shops...
Jan 09 01:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	many people are tho
Jan 09 01:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	and keep fucking over small business owners and customers.
Jan 09 01:26:39 <Namworld>	I don't believe we're anywhere near that level.
Jan 09 01:27:26 <Namworld>	I'm just saying misconception and bad press hinders bitcoins adoption and that they would prove useful given the right tools.
Jan 09 01:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	obviously once we build scale and capital and knowhow we'll be able to dislodge larger and larger chunks
Jan 09 01:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	but for now the focus on small busionesses is simply the tell-talle effect of incompetence and impotence in the bitcoin camp.
Jan 09 01:27:59 <mircea_popescu>	people don't know the people they should be talking to, don't know how to find them, don't dare approach them
Jan 09 01:28:04 <mircea_popescu>	so they pester barristas instead.
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Jan 09 01:29:28 <Namworld>	Ah. I merely wanted that misconception be cleared so there's less opposition. Better public view/demand for something increase the chance the people that matter will hear about, either through family or other connections.
Jan 09 01:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	not at all.
Jan 09 01:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	it's best if common people loathe btc for now.
Jan 09 01:30:25 <mircea_popescu>	just as it was best for mpex that all the glbse idjits hated it
Jan 09 01:31:04 <Namworld>	I'm not sure what advantage that has.
Jan 09 01:31:17 <Namworld>	They can't enter anyway
Jan 09 01:31:26 <mircea_popescu>	keeps the expensive people out and so saves our resources.
Jan 09 01:32:06 <Namworld>	They can't pay the entry fee anyway...
Jan 09 01:32:31 <Namworld>	If they want something they can't, they talk more about it than something they'd dismiss.
Jan 09 01:32:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 937 @ 0.0046549 = 4.3616 BTC [-]
Jan 09 01:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 113 @ 0.00464997 = 0.5254 BTC [-]
Jan 09 01:32:55 <Namworld>	Which can attracts the attention of the people you want.
Jan 09 01:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	well bitcoin's problem is that it doesn't have who to put an entrance fee.
Jan 09 01:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1318 @ 0.00464997 = 6.1287 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 01:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00478699 = 6.7018 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 01:53:24 <Namworld>	You allow withdrawals as low as 0.0005 BTC? Isn't that catering to small transactions?
Jan 09 01:54:00 <Namworld>	I think I could hardly bother with anything less than 1 BTC.
Jan 09 01:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	o, that's a trap
Jan 09 01:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	mpex only processes deposits.
Jan 09 01:55:52 <Namworld>	Oh, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, I probably hallucinated my previous withdrawed bitcoins. Have a good day sir.
Jan 09 01:56:00 *	Namworld wanders away.
Jan 09 01:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 09 01:57:20 <Namworld>	But, in all seriousness, I just made a 40 BTC withdrawal request.
Jan 09 01:58:09 <Namworld>	It seems someone is selling my debt under par value and I wish to purchase it.
Jan 09 02:00:22 <Namworld>	The contract says upon request I'll pay par value and the email is right there along the contract but no one seems to bother requesting. Quite odd.
Jan 09 02:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00478378 = 2.1527 BTC [-]
Jan 09 02:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	done.
Jan 09 02:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/66/ anyone know what this is ?
Jan 09 02:04:12 <Namworld>	I've had the notice before you notified here. I do like the confirmation speed.
Jan 09 02:04:24 <Namworld>	Thank you for the prompt service.
Jan 09 02:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	hehe my pleasure.
Jan 09 02:17:48 <Namworld>	Well, now I even get to know who put those under par on the market...
Jan 09 02:18:26 <Namworld>	Hmm...
Jan 09 02:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.morgenthaler.com/home/contact-us/
Jan 09 02:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	lmao idiots
Jan 09 02:19:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1689 @ 0.00478699 = 8.0852 BTC [+]
Jan 09 02:19:43 <Namworld>	oh wow...
Jan 09 02:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	and these people have like 1bn in assets
Jan 09 02:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	can't get a motherfucking link right.
Jan 09 02:22:04 <Namworld>	Okay... they manage 1 billion...  that website is so basic... They probably pay a premium for the website and they manage to screw up the contact us link...
Jan 09 02:22:45 <Namworld>	and the page is screwed up.
Jan 09 02:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	va firms have possibly the worst websites
Jan 09 02:23:06 <Namworld>	Things get misaligned. Seems like no one thought of the poor contact page.
Jan 09 02:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	and most of them are in technology/it
Jan 09 02:25:06 <Namworld>	http://www.morgenthaler.com/ventures/contact/
Jan 09 02:25:20 <Namworld>	Well the contact page from either sub-section works. At least.
Jan 09 02:25:30 <Namworld>	Just not from the main page =/
Jan 09 02:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 119 @ 0.00478378 = 0.5693 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 02:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 924 @ 0.00476514 = 4.403 BTC [-]
Jan 09 02:39:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 932 @ 0.00476514 = 4.4411 BTC [-]
Jan 09 02:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.0047471 = 6.1712 BTC [-]
Jan 09 02:39:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 168 @ 0.00473543 = 0.7956 BTC [-]
Jan 09 03:00:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 46 @ 0.48 = 22.08 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 03:22:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 173 @ 0.00474712 = 0.8213 BTC [+]
Jan 09 03:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 102 @ 0.00478699 = 0.4883 BTC [+]
Jan 09 03:29:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00478699 = 4.3083 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 03:47:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9319 @ 0.0006363 = 5.9297 BTC [-]
Jan 09 03:47:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9646 @ 0.00063113 = 6.0879 BTC [-]
Jan 09 03:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7007 @ 0.00063085 = 4.4204 BTC [-]
Jan 09 03:47:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 240 @ 0.00063 = 0.1512 BTC [-]
Jan 09 03:55:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00478699 = 4.0689 BTC [+]
Jan 09 04:01:12 <EskimoBob>	...
Jan 09 04:05:01 <EskimoBob>	this PM was funny. Someone wanted to use "I am not going to sign up to that horribly overpriced bazaar run by pompous gypsy" on a advertisement in bitcointalk :)
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Jan 09 04:11:11 <Namworld>	EskimoBob: eh, what?
Jan 09 04:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00478699 = 6.9411 BTC [+]
Jan 09 04:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 216 @ 0.00474597 = 1.0251 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 04:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00474172 = 6.4013 BTC [-]
Jan 09 04:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00474172 = 2.1338 BTC [-]
Jan 09 04:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00473543 = 3.078 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 04:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 984 @ 0.0047447 = 4.6688 BTC [+]
Jan 09 04:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 316 @ 0.00478699 = 1.5127 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 05:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00478699 = 6.4624 BTC [+]
Jan 09 05:13:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00478699 = 4.0689 BTC [+]
Jan 09 05:15:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 726 @ 0.00473543 = 3.4379 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 05:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1572 @ 0.00478699 = 7.5251 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 05:24:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00471547 = 0.2358 BTC [-]
Jan 09 05:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2950 @ 0.00478699 = 14.1216 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 06:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00476795 = 0.4768 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 07:11:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 803 @ 0.00471045 = 3.7825 BTC [-]
Jan 09 07:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00470304 = 2.3515 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 07:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 759 @ 0.00470304 = 3.5696 BTC [-]
Jan 09 07:14:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 794 @ 0.00470042 = 3.7321 BTC [-]
Jan 09 07:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00472847 = 7.0927 BTC [+]
Jan 09 07:28:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00470042 = 2.8203 BTC [-]
Jan 09 07:28:50 <jurov>	Spend some time in the sketchy online marketplace for this currency and you'll find that Bitcoin users range from the common Iranian on the street, who is worried about inflation, to hit men and drug dealers, who prefer to be paid in an untraceable currency.
Jan 09 07:29:02 <jurov>	http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/12/18/bitcoin-money-laundering/
Jan 09 07:29:39 <jurov>	so it's coming to outright FUD now
Jan 09 07:31:05 <jurov>	oh it's month old..nm
Jan 09 07:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0047209 = 0.236 BTC [+]
Jan 09 07:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00472748 = 5.2002 BTC [+]
Jan 09 07:32:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00473387 = 2.8403 BTC [+]
Jan 09 07:32:49 <pigeons>	yeah all those hit men
Jan 09 07:33:07 <pigeons>	and the common Iranian on the street????
Jan 09 07:35:54 <jurov>	wait till it comes to north koreans
Jan 09 07:36:35 <pigeons>	buying nuclear secrets
Jan 09 07:36:55 <zbbbssaa>	looks like in The Land of Fat and Retarded the propaganda machine is working at full speed
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Jan 09 07:43:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0046966 = 5.6359 BTC [-]
Jan 09 07:43:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 28 @ 0.00469604 = 0.1315 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 07:43:51 <PsychoticBoy_>	To
Jan 09 07:44:32 <PsychoticBoy_>	Yo yo yo
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Jan 09 08:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 628 @ 0.00469539 = 2.9487 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 08:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00471328 = 6.1273 BTC [+]
Jan 09 08:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 706 @ 0.00473387 = 3.3421 BTC [+]
Jan 09 08:13:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 444 @ 0.00475368 = 2.1106 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 08:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 206 @ 0.00475368 = 0.9793 BTC [+]
Jan 09 08:28:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 993 @ 0.00476756 = 4.7342 BTC [+]
Jan 09 08:28:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00476916 = 0.2385 BTC [+]
Jan 09 08:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00477967 = 0.9559 BTC [+]
Jan 09 08:28:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00478482 = 4.7848 BTC [+]
Jan 09 08:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00478823 = 2.8729 BTC [+]
Jan 09 08:28:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1151 @ 0.00478919 = 5.5124 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 08:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 888 @ 0.00478919 = 4.2528 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 08:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00478919 = 6.2259 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 08:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1872 @ 0.00471328 = 8.8233 BTC [-]
Jan 09 08:51:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 938 @ 0.00470767 = 4.4158 BTC [-]
Jan 09 08:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 312 @ 0.00478919 = 1.4942 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 08:57:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00478919 = 2.3946 BTC [+]
Jan 09 09:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3250 @ 0.00478919 = 15.5649 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 09:11:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1425 @ 0.0046925 = 6.6868 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 09:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00478919 = 4.3103 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 09:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 58 @ 0.0046925 = 0.2722 BTC [-]
Jan 09 09:31:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 292 @ 0.00468867 = 1.3691 BTC [-]
Jan 09 09:49:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00468868 = 4.6887 BTC [+]
Jan 09 09:49:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00468867 = 2.3443 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 09:51:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 308 @ 0.00468867 = 1.4441 BTC [-]
Jan 09 09:51:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 392 @ 0.00467118 = 1.8311 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 10:00:23 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 09 10:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00449 / 0.00472224 / 0.00478919 (537594 shares, 2,538.65 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00341097 / 0.0048 (14031848 shares, 47,862.27 BTC)
Jan 09 10:00:49 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 09 10:00:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.74215, Best ask: 13.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04785, Last trade: 13.74215, 24 hour volume: 29724.29437430, 24 hour low: 13.62000, 24 hour high: 13.87998, 24 hour vwap: 13.74723
Jan 09 10:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00467118 = 5.6054 BTC [-]
Jan 09 10:14:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 428 @ 0.00467118 = 1.9993 BTC [-]
Jan 09 10:14:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1422 @ 0.0046634 = 6.6314 BTC [-]
Jan 09 10:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 528 @ 0.0046634 = 2.4623 BTC [-]
Jan 09 10:20:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 122 @ 0.00466327 = 0.5689 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 10:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1551 @ 0.00063518 = 0.9852 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 10:54:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00469633 = 7.5141 BTC [+]
Jan 09 10:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00471589 = 2.1222 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 11:00:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00471589 = 1.6506 BTC [+]
Jan 09 11:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00473596 = 2.6048 BTC [+]
Jan 09 11:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 578 @ 0.00466327 = 2.6954 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:01:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 322 @ 0.0046617 = 1.5011 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 11:09:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 578 @ 0.0046617 = 2.6945 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:09:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00465851 = 1.3976 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:09:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 769 @ 0.00464997 = 3.5758 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 153 @ 0.00464981 = 0.7114 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 11:11:06 <topace>	kakobrekla: hey let me know when you're around, i have the havelock ticker api fixed up.
Jan 09 11:11:20 <kakobrekla>	im always around, just pm me.
Jan 09 11:12:17 <topace>	heh
Jan 09 11:12:24 <topace>	the man that never sleeps ?
Jan 09 11:12:48 <kakobrekla>	unfortunatley i didnt get rid of sleep completley
Jan 09 11:12:55 <kakobrekla>	but not too far from it!
Jan 09 11:12:59 <kakobrekla>	;>
Jan 09 11:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 447 @ 0.00464981 = 2.0785 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 433 @ 0.00464879 = 2.0129 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 720 @ 0.00464636 = 3.3454 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:15:35 <topace>	caffeine helps :)
Jan 09 11:16:02 <kakobrekla>	yeah im prolly way in the unhealty zone with the coffee OD
Jan 09 11:16:12 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Jan 09 11:16:50 <kakobrekla>	a few years back a friend of mine brought me pure caffeeine
Jan 09 11:16:57 <kakobrekla>	was much better for the stomach than coffee
Jan 09 11:17:03 <kakobrekla>	when you need to stay up
Jan 09 11:17:28 <Bugpowder>	Do you do cold-brew?
Jan 09 11:18:11 <kakobrekla>	hmm?
Jan 09 11:18:16 <kakobrekla>	i dont think so :)
Jan 09 11:18:31 <kakobrekla>	i drink black turkish coffee
Jan 09 11:18:33 <Bugpowder>	It's awesome.  Superior flavor, super concentrated, low acidity
Jan 09 11:18:40 <kakobrekla>	no milk, just sugar
Jan 09 11:19:01 <Bugpowder>	You soak coarse gound coffee in a bucket overnight
Jan 09 11:19:04 <Bugpowder>	then filter
Jan 09 11:19:08 <kakobrekla>	3-6 dcl a day id say
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Jan 09 11:19:33 <Bugpowder>	http://www.toddycafe.com
Jan 09 11:19:36 <Bugpowder>	I recommend
Jan 09 11:19:51 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 09 11:19:57 <kakobrekla>	ill check if i can get anything like that here
Jan 09 11:20:00 <kakobrekla>	dunno
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Jan 09 11:20:23 <kakobrekla>	seems like an american thing
Jan 09 11:20:38 <kakobrekla>	http://www.asic-cafe.org/
Jan 09 11:20:41 <kakobrekla>	lolz
Jan 09 11:20:50 <kakobrekla>	nice name
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Jan 09 11:22:25 <kakobrekla>	what kind of device do you use Buglouse like this http://www.greenbeanery.ca/bean/catalog/images/coldbrew-bl.jpg
Jan 09 11:22:38 <kakobrekla>	a fuck this shit again
Jan 09 11:22:50 <kakobrekla>	swich Buglouse with Bugpowder
Jan 09 11:30:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00063 = 1.7325 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00466217 = 5.1284 BTC [+]
Jan 09 11:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 356 @ 0.00464636 = 1.6541 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:33:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 944 @ 0.00464547 = 4.3853 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:34:38 <Bugpowder>	That device is insane
Jan 09 11:34:42 <Bugpowder>	I just use a Toddy
Jan 09 11:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 356 @ 0.00464547 = 1.6538 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 144 @ 0.0046366 = 0.6677 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:35:09 <Bugpowder>	1 lb of coffee goes into a carafe that you keep in the fridge for a week
Jan 09 11:35:16 <Bugpowder>	dilute as necessary
Jan 09 11:35:44 <Bugpowder>	You get about 1.5 liters of espresso strength coffee from 0.5 kg of beans
Jan 09 11:36:03 <Bugpowder>	and can just pour more into your cup at anytime, with zero effort
Jan 09 11:36:14 <Bugpowder>	but there is never a burnt flavor due to the cold brew method
Jan 09 11:36:16 <Bugpowder>	so easy
Jan 09 11:36:18 <Bugpowder>	so good
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Jan 09 11:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00471523 = 2.3576 BTC [+]
Jan 09 11:43:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1356 @ 0.0046366 = 6.2872 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:43:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 44 @ 0.00463619 = 0.204 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:44:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00463619 = 4.6362 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.49 = 4.41 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 11:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1056 @ 0.00463619 = 4.8958 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:47:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00463204 = 3.474 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:47:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00462713 = 4.1644 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:47:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1271 @ 0.00462455 = 5.8778 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:51:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.0006339 = 5.6734 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 11:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 507 @ 0.00463996 = 2.3525 BTC [+]
Jan 09 11:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 280 @ 0.00462455 = 1.2949 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00462201 = 4.1598 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1292 @ 0.00461464 = 5.9621 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:58:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1009 @ 0.00461464 = 4.6562 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:58:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00461232 = 5.996 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.004612 = 6.2262 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:58:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 30 @ 0.00461116 = 0.1383 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:58:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00460481 = 4.3746 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00460446 = 4.144 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:58:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2906 @ 0.00459207 = 13.3446 BTC [-]
Jan 09 11:59:28 <smickles>	< Bugpowder> I just use a Toddy <<< ya know, you can do cold brew coffey with just a large coffee tin
Jan 09 11:59:37 <smickles>	"coffey"?
Jan 09 11:59:42 <smickles>	wth
Jan 09 12:01:05 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you still around?
Jan 09 12:01:08 <smickles>	thing is, some people like the bitter taste
Jan 09 12:01:09 <thestringpuller>	or can you be around
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Jan 09 12:01:12 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yup
Jan 09 12:01:16 <smickles>	either
Jan 09 12:02:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00462003 = 9.0091 BTC [+]
Jan 09 12:02:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.00459207 = 0.0321 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 12:08:22 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto, nanotube: talk to each other to get bitfunder on assbot
Jan 09 12:08:44 <Diablo-D3>	[11:34:42] <Bugpowder> I just use a Toddy
Jan 09 12:08:52 <Diablo-D3>	theres only two ways of making coffee that is any good
Jan 09 12:09:13 <Diablo-D3>	that, and using an aeropress.
Jan 09 12:09:23 <Diablo-D3>	everything else is just a waste of beans
Jan 09 12:10:29 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Jan 09 12:10:43 <Diablo-D3>	what month did glbse shut down?
Jan 09 12:11:36 <topace>	november i think ?
Jan 09 12:12:08 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: wouldn't that be Ukto and kakobrekla ?
Jan 09 12:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 6 @ 0.06052842 = 0.3632 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:12:12 <Diablo-D3>	I thought it was october
Jan 09 12:12:24 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: I thought assbot was nanotube's?
Jan 09 12:12:33 <smickles>	naw, gribble is nanotube's
Jan 09 12:12:39 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Jan 09 12:12:45 <Diablo-D3>	fine, kakobrekla, Ukto, make it happen
Jan 09 12:12:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 6 @ 0.08639072 = 0.5183 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 6 @ 0.09707624 = 0.5825 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:13:06 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 09 12:13:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.70001, Best ask: 13.75002, Bid-ask spread: 0.05001, Last trade: 13.70001, 24 hour volume: 30473.91237275, 24 hour low: 13.62000, 24 hour high: 13.87998, 24 hour vwap: 13.74568
Jan 09 12:18:00 <topace>	heh
Jan 09 12:18:06 <topace>	easy implementation of assbot
Jan 09 12:18:08 <topace>	i did it yesterday
Jan 09 12:18:13 <topace>	for havelock
Jan 09 12:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.0164898 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:20:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 6 @ 0.03838722 = 0.2303 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:20:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.10432623 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.00990212 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 6 @ 0.13290171 = 0.7974 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.00800556 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 6 @ 0.06099735 = 0.366 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:21:25 <jurov>	Diablo-D3, maybe you won't remember, Ukto did it, then kakobrekla said he won't do twatter
Jan 09 12:21:36 <kakobrekla>	rewind
Jan 09 12:21:39 <Diablo-D3>	I dont remember
Jan 09 12:21:50 <Diablo-D3>	he should just setup a telnet feed then
Jan 09 12:21:55 <kakobrekla>	twatter went out cause it doesnt work well
Jan 09 12:22:06 <topace>	the http post interface is simple
Jan 09 12:22:24 <jurov>	kakobrekla, but you still use it for mpex, no?
Jan 09 12:22:59 <kakobrekla>	yes im still wating for them to switch over, that doesnt mean i will support new exchanges with that
Jan 09 12:23:08 <Diablo-D3>	topace: yeah, but then ukto needs to call the post on kakobrekla's shit every post
Jan 09 12:23:18 <Diablo-D3>	which has higher overhead than just spamming, say, json
Jan 09 12:23:23 <Diablo-D3>	or csv
Jan 09 12:23:34 <kakobrekla>	you are over your head with this overhead
Jan 09 12:24:01 *	Diablo-D3 smacks kakobrekla 
Jan 09 12:24:10 <jurov>	good i decided to use mpex rss feed instead... but live.coinbr isn't so very realtime
Jan 09 12:25:20 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: well thats the problem
Jan 09 12:25:26 <Diablo-D3>	rss feeds can be lossy and arent push mechanisms
Jan 09 12:25:35 <kakobrekla>	loosy lol
Jan 09 12:25:37 <kakobrekla>	twatter is lossy
Jan 09 12:25:48 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: cant you just say twitter?
Jan 09 12:25:55 <kakobrekla>	twitter
Jan 09 12:25:57 <kakobrekla>	apparently i can
Jan 09 12:26:04 <Diablo-D3>	heh.
Jan 09 12:26:10 <Diablo-D3>	twitter is lossy yes
Jan 09 12:26:14 <Diablo-D3>	because its not a reliable messaging bus
Jan 09 12:26:14 <jurov>	Diablo-D3, push can be done w/rss with little effort
Jan 09 12:26:20 <Diablo-D3>	rss doesnt work because you need to poll frequently
Jan 09 12:26:29 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: yes, and most people dont make that effort
Jan 09 12:26:40 <kakobrekla>	lol rss
Jan 09 12:26:44 <Diablo-D3>	there are already simple protocols for event push like this
Jan 09 12:26:45 <kakobrekla>	and talk about overhead
Jan 09 12:26:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.15977078 BTC [+]
Jan 09 12:26:59 <Diablo-D3>	and wall street itself often uses streaming csv
Jan 09 12:27:06 <Diablo-D3>	its simple to implement and its simple to use
Jan 09 12:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.12723625 BTC [+]
Jan 09 12:27:43 <jurov>	anyway, we'll have to wait what mircea comes up with. i'd love to have scrolling ticker on coinbr :P
Jan 09 12:27:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.06763412 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:28:17 <jurov>	maybe then he can be persuaded to provide private feeds for user's txs too
Jan 09 12:28:29 <pigeons>	name that quotee
Jan 09 12:28:34 <pigeons>	"I am sorry I let you down I really am and I hope the Asians took good care of you."
Jan 09 12:28:47 <kakobrekla>	CP
Jan 09 12:28:59 <pigeons>	winner
Jan 09 12:29:00 <kakobrekla>	whats the bounty
Jan 09 12:29:06 <pigeons>	chicken dinner
Jan 09 12:29:13 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 09 12:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00063 = 1.953 BTC [-]
Jan 09 12:33:27 <jurov>	i predict mircea will implement streaming csv. with numbers quoted and in romanian numerals format. with md5 checksum and gpg signature on every record.
Jan 09 12:33:54 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1151182#msg1151182
Jan 09 12:34:03 <Diablo-D3>	you know, not one person noticed that post =/
Jan 09 12:36:45 <pigeons>	tonal
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Jan 09 12:39:29 <smickles>	pigeons: i'm sure that's why dmc went the way it did, no use  of tonal
Jan 09 12:39:52 <jcpham>	nvidia dedication
Jan 09 12:40:41 <smickles>	jcpham: d'ya want to buy one of those things nvidia announced?
Jan 09 12:40:57 <jcpham>	not with the wimax
Jan 09 12:41:05 <jcpham>	and audio recording capabilities no
Jan 09 12:41:10 <jcpham>	not in my home please
Jan 09 12:41:29 <smickles>	sansmicrophilia
Jan 09 12:41:44 <jcpham>	why does a tegra 4 chipset need all of those things?
Jan 09 12:41:54 <jcpham>	because it's awesome, that's why
Jan 09 12:42:32 <jcpham>	imagine an onboard cache of like 16GB....coming soon
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Jan 09 12:43:40 <smickles>	jcpham: I knew you worked on the board of one of those companies
Jan 09 12:45:11 <smickles>	;;lucky "fortified with zorgonite"
Jan 09 12:45:11 <gribble>	http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/the%20taste%20you%20can%20see
Jan 09 12:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 255 @ 0.00463996 = 1.1832 BTC [+]
Jan 09 12:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 945 @ 0.00464385 = 4.3884 BTC [+]
Jan 09 12:47:34 <smickles>	this is why you shouldn't let kids watch tv. they get companies adverts stuck in their heads for decades
Jan 09 12:47:54 <jcpham>	true story
Jan 09 12:49:07 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 09 12:49:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.75106, Best ask: 13.83833, Bid-ask spread: 0.08727, Last trade: 13.75106, 24 hour volume: 30900.34328548, 24 hour low: 13.62000, 24 hour high: 13.87998, 24 hour vwap: 13.74769
Jan 09 12:49:36 <jcpham>	bulls
Jan 09 12:50:08 <smickles>	i like thinking that my bot's small movements cause the ripples which turn into the larger movements
Jan 09 12:50:32 <Diablo-D3>	so what month did glbse shut down?
Jan 09 12:50:40 <smickles>	oct?
Jan 09 12:50:43 <smickles>	oct 3?
Jan 09 12:50:45 <Diablo-D3>	I thought oct
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Jan 09 12:56:44 *	smickles looks at a satoshi representation of a btc balance, registers it as 10x higher than it actually is, stops breathing for a moment
Jan 09 12:57:03 <Diablo-D3>	lol.
Jan 09 12:57:09 <Diablo-D3>	wait, only 10x?
Jan 09 12:57:25 <smickles>	plus my eyes widened so far i thought they were going to fall out. That's what snapped me back into reality
Jan 09 12:57:30 <smickles>	fear of my eyes falling out
Jan 09 12:57:33 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 09 12:57:36 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 09 12:57:57 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: yeah only 10x
Jan 09 12:58:00 <kakobrekla>	the opposite happens to me
Jan 09 12:58:06 <Diablo-D3>	wtf are you normally measuring in?
Jan 09 12:58:12 <smickles>	satoshi
Jan 09 12:58:45 <smickles>	i'm just used to commas, and I don't use them anymore
Jan 09 12:58:48 <Diablo-D3>	then where did the 10x come from?
Jan 09 12:59:28 <smickles>	i thought I was looking at the 1000000000 place when it was the 100000000
Jan 09 13:00:42 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i think that might've scared me worse than this excited me
Jan 09 13:01:09 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Jan 09 13:01:13 <kakobrekla>	i have 2 accounts on gox
Jan 09 13:01:36 <kakobrekla>	a few times i thought i logged in the oposite one that i really did
Jan 09 13:01:41 <kakobrekla>	and i shit my pants
Jan 09 13:01:43 <smickles>	oh no
Jan 09 13:04:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00461376 = 2.7683 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 13:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00461376 = 1.6148 BTC [-]
Jan 09 13:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00459208 = 3.4441 BTC [-]
Jan 09 13:12:27 <EskimoBob>	:)
Jan 09 13:14:24 <pigeons>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CVE-2012-3789
Jan 09 13:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 862 @ 0.00464385 = 4.003 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:15:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 819 @ 0.004654 = 3.8116 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 299 @ 0.004654 = 1.3915 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00471286 = 4.4772 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:17:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 902 @ 0.00471327 = 4.2514 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00063001 = 1.3545 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 13:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 348 @ 0.00471327 = 1.6402 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:23:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 343 @ 0.00471523 = 1.6173 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:23:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 201 @ 0.00471597 = 0.9479 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 849 @ 0.00471597 = 4.0039 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:27:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 221 @ 0.00473596 = 1.0466 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:27:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 630 @ 0.00474009 = 2.9863 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00474009 = 1.422 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 13:45:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 250 @ 0.48 = 120 BTC [-]
Jan 09 13:46:30 <Bugpowder>	!
Jan 09 13:46:39 <Bugpowder>	not bad for havelock
Jan 09 13:49:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0046203 = 3.2342 BTC [-]
Jan 09 13:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 220 @ 0.00474009 = 1.0428 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 780 @ 0.00476739 = 3.7186 BTC [+]
Jan 09 13:49:52 <topace>	Bugpowder:  :)
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Jan 09 14:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00476739 = 4.7674 BTC [+]
Jan 09 14:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00476739 = 4.7674 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 14:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 983 @ 0.00476739 = 4.6863 BTC [+]
Jan 09 14:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 17 @ 0.00477127 = 0.0811 BTC [+]
Jan 09 14:18:33 <EskimoBob>	ltc team is working on a patch now
Jan 09 14:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 483 @ 0.00477127 = 2.3045 BTC [+]
Jan 09 14:19:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00478628 = 3.3504 BTC [+]
Jan 09 14:19:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2426 @ 0.00478919 = 11.6186 BTC [+]
Jan 09 14:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 09 14:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00449 / 0.00468334 / 0.00478919 (362534 shares, 1,697.87 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00341561 / 0.0048 (14083889 shares, 48,105.09 BTC)
Jan 09 14:21:38 <EskimoBob>	if any of you are looking for a larger block of ART and do not want to cause a riot in bitcoinglobbal, please let me know.
Jan 09 14:23:46 <topace>	ART?
Jan 09 14:24:48 <gigavps>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWF86D_UNxc
Jan 09 14:25:57 <dub>	lol
Jan 09 14:28:58 <EskimoBob>	topace: art studio equipment project
Jan 09 14:29:01 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: >riot
Jan 09 14:29:02 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Jan 09 14:29:44 <EskimoBob>	:)
Jan 09 14:30:05 <topace>	lol
Jan 09 14:30:32 <EskimoBob>	sounded nice and important. More important, that 100 million shares blah at 0.0000something
Jan 09 14:32:53 <jurov>	Diablo-D3, do you watch KHL? we should set up some bets, too
Jan 09 14:33:17 <jurov>	i don't watch it much, but i saw todays' match in a gym so it occurred it to me
Jan 09 14:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	what's khl ?
Jan 09 14:33:40 <jurov>	continental hockey league
Jan 09 14:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	o
Jan 09 14:33:53 <jurov>	ex-USSR + czechoslovakia
Jan 09 14:33:53 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 was into hockey irc
Jan 09 14:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00478919 = 9.0995 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 14:36:31 <mod6>	ahh, yeah :)
Jan 09 14:36:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00478919 = 23.946 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 14:37:12 <mod6>	the NHL is back from its lockout too fwiw.  Just in time for BitBet :]
Jan 09 14:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00476061 = 5.7127 BTC [-]
Jan 09 14:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	>D
Jan 09 14:42:37 <smickles>	i/a
Jan 09 14:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1087 @ 0.00478919 = 5.2058 BTC [+]
Jan 09 14:46:07 <dub>	how do you get to the market on bitfunder
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Jan 09 14:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135574.0
Jan 09 14:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	lets see what comes out of this
Jan 09 14:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.00476061 = 18.0903 BTC [-]
Jan 09 14:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 653 @ 0.0047606 = 3.1087 BTC [-]
Jan 09 14:54:19 <jurov>	flowers for mpoe-pr, what else :)
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Jan 09 14:55:27 <jcpham>	poor thing. no one pays her attention it seems
Jan 09 14:55:48 <mod6>	i thought it was a good round up
Jan 09 14:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	my bet is on crickets
Jan 09 14:56:43 <mod6>	haha
Jan 09 14:56:47 <mircea_popescu>	they're just too afraid of her by now.
Jan 09 14:57:34 <jcpham>	i hope she doesn't scare journalists away
Jan 09 14:57:52 <mod6>	someone needs to set these guys straight. and she's been spot on for over a year.
Jan 09 14:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	can you scare journalists away ?
Jan 09 14:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	moreover. if you scare some dood away, could he have been a journalist ?
Jan 09 14:58:16 <dub>	im sure I saw a market page on bitfunder yesterday
Jan 09 14:58:19 <dub>	but now..
Jan 09 14:58:24 <dub>	was I mistaken?
Jan 09 14:58:37 <dub>	or do I need more coffee
Jan 09 14:59:27 <jurov>	dub, why? yes there's more stuff there now.
Jan 09 14:59:59 <dub>	link?
Jan 09 15:00:12 <dub>	all I see is an asset list
Jan 09 15:01:20 <jurov>	you think there was more yest?
Jan 09 15:01:50 <dub>	the asset list is the market page? its just a list of btc addresses with stock balances
Jan 09 15:02:51 <dub>	I must be mistaking it with another site
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Jan 09 15:11:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00477962 = 4.0627 BTC [+]
Jan 09 15:12:46 <dub>	nearly positivie it was bitfunder
Jan 09 15:12:59 <dub>	maybe its a browser problem
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Jan 09 15:15:45 <dub>	are there any sites not in the topic?
Jan 09 15:16:48 <topace>	kakobrekla: assbot isnt showing havelock trades
Jan 09 15:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00477962 = 0.7169 BTC [+]
Jan 09 15:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.0047606 = 1.6662 BTC [-]
Jan 09 15:23:40 <mircea_popescu>	dub im sure there must be
Jan 09 15:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1015 @ 0.00478699 = 4.8588 BTC [+]
Jan 09 15:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 35 @ 0.00478919 = 0.1676 BTC [+]
Jan 09 15:24:11 <dub>	pretty sure I looked at it last night
Jan 09 15:24:32 <dub>	but I can only find news|asset list|t&c
Jan 09 15:25:04 <dub>	if it is there, its very well hidden
Jan 09 15:33:02 <EskimoBob>	LOL, this chick needs to get her head examined. Or is it actually mircea_popescu who writes that shit? It sure sounds like him. gloating, self-centered fucktard
Jan 09 15:38:14 <dub>	yeah tbqh accurate or not its hard to see how the post would produce anything but negative PR
Jan 09 15:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1337 @ 0.00478919 = 6.4031 BTC [+]
Jan 09 15:38:41 <dub>	1337 dice yo
Jan 09 15:39:57 <mircea_popescu>	dub the gorby thing ?
Jan 09 15:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	"Can someone with a seat on the board say if they're getting more update than that ?
Jan 09 15:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	Nope, so far board members do not have more info than what is provided in this thread."
Jan 09 15:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	whoopdedoo.
Jan 09 15:40:49 <dub>	mircea_popescu: the feet kissing post
Jan 09 15:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	o
Jan 09 15:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	heh. who exactly is big enough to do "negative PR" ?
Jan 09 15:42:08 <dub>	its seldom productive to rub peoples faces in their own shit, expecially a bunch of nobodies
Jan 09 15:42:19 <mircea_popescu>	in general that's true.
Jan 09 15:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	here it's important, i think, because otherwise the flavour of the entire thing slowly turns to shit.
Jan 09 15:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 230 @ 0.0047606 = 1.0949 BTC [-]
Jan 09 15:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 620 @ 0.0047341 = 2.9351 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 15:52:51 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu arent you and this psyco cunt the new synonyms of shit?
Jan 09 15:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	"Chinese new year or not this a bad time of year to rely on devices that rely so heavily on parts from countries that celebrate the near years and the up coming spring festival."
Jan 09 15:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	pity asicminer didn't have its shares up, it'd have made a killing.
Jan 09 15:53:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 180 @ 0.0047341 = 0.8521 BTC [-]
Jan 09 15:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 612 @ 0.00470933 = 2.8821 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 16:02:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 746 @ 0.00470933 = 3.5132 BTC [-]
Jan 09 16:06:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00470766 = 0.9415 BTC [-]
Jan 09 16:07:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 862 @ 0.00470766 = 4.058 BTC [-]
Jan 09 16:07:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 438 @ 0.00478919 = 2.0977 BTC [+]
Jan 09 16:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4350 @ 0.00478919 = 20.833 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 16:13:30 <kakobrekla>	everything is under control, dont panic.
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Jan 09 16:16:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00478919 = 5.2681 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 16:21:53 <markedathome>	http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/01/extremely-crtical-ruby-on-rails-bug-threatens-more-than-200000-sites/
Jan 09 16:21:53 <markedathome>	http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/01/09/1557235/ruby-on-rails-sql-injection-flaw-has-serious-real-life-consequences
Jan 09 16:21:53 <markedathome>	so how many bitcoin sites is that? 90-95%?
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Jan 09 16:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	yeah we saw it yest.
Jan 09 16:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	mpex doesn't use ruby.
Jan 09 16:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	glbse iirc did.
Jan 09 16:24:32 <topace>	hahaha ruby on rails
Jan 09 16:24:53 <markedathome>	glbse and bitcoinica
Jan 09 16:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	o wait, i guess that bitfinex stolen code thing also ?
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Jan 09 16:29:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [test] 1 @ 0.00000001 BTC
Jan 09 16:29:15 <markedathome>	bitfinex?
Jan 09 16:29:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [+]
Jan 09 16:29:41 <Bugpowder>	0.5!
Jan 09 16:30:01 *	markedathome rushes to havelock to sell!
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Jan 09 16:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident Namworld
Jan 09 16:40:03 <gribble>	Nick 'Namworld', with hostmask 'Namworld!~BTC-Minin@modemcable075.132-23-96.mc.videotron.ca', is identified as user Namworld, with GPG key id F2758D83EEEDE453, key fingerprint F12DE6B4E1EF26F5768BE918F2758D83EEEDE453, and bitcoin address 1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk
Jan 09 16:40:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-]
Jan 09 16:40:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 16:42:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-]
Jan 09 16:42:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [+]
Jan 09 16:42:29 <dub>	whut is this supposed to be https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=9443;type=avatar
Jan 09 16:42:39 <dub>	bitcoin cock?
Jan 09 16:44:23 <FabianB>	;;tslb
Jan 09 16:44:25 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 hour and 23 seconds
Jan 09 16:44:41 <dub>	nice
Jan 09 16:44:44 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Jan 09 16:44:50 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 215901 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 1826 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3021412.00645230 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.02059076507
Jan 09 16:44:51 <dub>	;;bc,diffchange
Jan 09 16:44:56 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -7.02059076507 % based on data since last change | -5.1399053661 % based on data for last three days
Jan 09 16:49:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00478919 = 14.3676 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 16:57:17 <smickles>	it's too early to tell on the next diff, isn't it?
Jan 09 16:57:24 <smickles>	kakobrekla: 21:51 -!- assbot [~assbot@78.46.215.65] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Jan 09 16:57:35 <kakobrekla>	ya
Jan 09 16:57:38 <Bugpowder>	yeah, with the asics shipping
Jan 09 16:57:45 <kakobrekla>	im doing some changes as we speak smickles
Jan 09 16:57:46 <Bugpowder>	could go up a lot
Jan 09 16:57:52 <Bugpowder>	next week
Jan 09 16:57:55 <kakobrekla>	burnsides exchange is comming as well
Jan 09 16:58:00 <smickles>	kakobrekla: cool, just thought i'd let you know :)
Jan 09 16:58:11 <smickles>	Bugpowder: they are actually shipping now?
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Jan 09 16:58:29 <Bugpowder>	10 days
Jan 09 16:58:29 <Bugpowder>	http://www.avalon-asics.com
Jan 09 17:03:20 <gigavps>	their last post seemed to be prepping for less than stellar shipping schedule
Jan 09 17:03:51 <gigavps>	bASIC is now telling their customers to go fuck themselves regarding getting their btc back
Jan 09 17:04:04 <gigavps>	without it being in their terms of service
Jan 09 17:05:13 <dub>	smickles: yes
Jan 09 17:05:16 <smickles>	wowzer
Jan 09 17:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/75/
Jan 09 17:06:43 <mircea_popescu>	related
Jan 09 17:07:52 <gigavps>	lol
Jan 09 17:07:58 <gigavps>	"never to change again"
Jan 09 17:08:09 <gigavps>	these guys are worse than BFL
Jan 09 17:08:39 <smickles>	so, still no mpoe.etf shareholder info from nefario
Jan 09 17:08:55 <dub>	im still waiting for btc :)
Jan 09 17:09:08 <Bugpowder>	they should change the countdown ticker on their website.
Jan 09 17:09:16 <Bugpowder>	If they were a stock I would panic sell
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Jan 09 17:09:38 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 09 17:09:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.77001, Best ask: 13.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 13.77001, 24 hour volume: 27803.13160059, 24 hour low: 13.62000, 24 hour high: 13.85000, 24 hour vwap: 13.73971
Jan 09 17:09:41 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 09 17:11:19 <smickles>	assbot is down for now Bugpowder
Jan 09 17:11:26 <smickles>	system update
Jan 09 17:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder well people who are stockholders ("preorder" hiolders) are panic selling
Jan 09 17:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	ie, asking for money back.
Jan 09 17:14:40 <FabianB>	;;tslb
Jan 09 17:14:42 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 40 seconds
Jan 09 17:14:56 <FabianB>	someone turned off some asics ;)
Jan 09 17:15:11 <smickles>	;;bc,stats
Jan 09 17:15:13 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 215901 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 1826 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3021412.00645230 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.02059076507
Jan 09 17:15:18 <smickles>	er
Jan 09 17:15:22 <smickles>	;;bc,nethash
Jan 09 17:15:23 <gribble>	22065.91594483177
Jan 09 17:15:24 <dub>	bitcoin broken, time to sell
Jan 09 17:15:29 <Bugpowder>	sell to me
Jan 09 17:15:35 <dub>	NO ME
Jan 09 17:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	no u
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Jan 09 17:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00477206 = 0.9544 BTC [-]
Jan 09 17:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1373 @ 0.00470939 = 6.466 BTC [-]
Jan 09 17:16:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3627 @ 0.00478919 = 17.3704 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00478919 = 5.747 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1639 @ 0.00467711 = 7.6658 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 17:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 206 @ 0.0046657 = 0.9611 BTC [-]
Jan 09 17:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3839 @ 0.00478919 = 18.3857 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.0047892 = 5.9865 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2687 @ 0.00478945 = 12.8693 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2224 @ 0.00479003 = 10.653 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:20:10 <smickles>	wow, i've made roughly a 50% gain on s.dice
Jan 09 17:20:16 <kakobrekla>	hrm
Jan 09 17:20:18 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Jan 09 17:20:20 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 hour, 36 minutes, and 18 seconds
Jan 09 17:20:24 <kakobrekla>	^^
Jan 09 17:20:25 <smickles>	that's 'in the bank' btc too
Jan 09 17:20:45 <kakobrekla>	impossibru
Jan 09 17:20:52 <smickles>	kakobrekla: on hour isn't unheard of tho
Jan 09 17:21:03 <smickles>	have there been a couple in a row of 1 hr?
Jan 09 17:21:07 <kakobrekla>	but its 1h and 36min
Jan 09 17:21:24 <kakobrekla>	humm
Jan 09 17:21:25 <smickles>	oh no
Jan 09 17:21:29 <smickles>	there have been
Jan 09 17:21:30 <kakobrekla>	my bitcoin client tells me
Jan 09 17:21:35 <smickles>	Height	Age	Transactions	Total Sent	Relayed By	Size (kB)
Jan 09 17:21:35 <kakobrekla>	its 36min ago
Jan 09 17:21:35 <smickles>	215901	1 hour 37 minutes	148	23,672.61 BTC	87.106.47.100	49.79
Jan 09 17:21:36 <smickles>	215900	2 hours 26 minutes	150	4,012.25 BTC	50BTC	92.95
Jan 09 17:21:40 <kakobrekla>	ya
Jan 09 17:21:51 <kakobrekla>	blockchain info down
Jan 09 17:21:54 <kakobrekla>	pft.
Jan 09 17:21:55 <kakobrekla>	:|
Jan 09 17:22:13 <kakobrekla>	someone call that guy
Jan 09 17:22:21 <smickles>	it's up for me tho
Jan 09 17:22:27 <smickles>	and current with my client
Jan 09 17:22:51 <kakobrekla>	last block on blockchain info i see is 901
Jan 09 17:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135574.0
Jan 09 17:23:16 <smickles>	hmm, last block my client has is 901
Jan 09 17:23:32 <kakobrekla>	me too
Jan 09 17:23:39 <kakobrekla>	wtf
Jan 09 17:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	901 ya
Jan 09 17:24:01 <kakobrekla>	according to blockchain that block was 1h 30min ago
Jan 09 17:24:08 <kakobrekla>	and i know it reported it then
Jan 09 17:24:14 <kakobrekla>	cause im scanning it
Jan 09 17:24:42 <dub>	hrm
Jan 09 17:24:44 <kakobrekla>	something is f00
Jan 09 17:24:55 <dub>	I should probably upgrade
Jan 09 17:24:57 <dub>	"errors" : "WARNING: Displayed transactions may not be correct!  You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade."
Jan 09 17:25:16 <dub>	    "version" : 69900,
Jan 09 17:25:16 <kakobrekla>	which ver?
Jan 09 17:25:19 <kakobrekla>	hh
Jan 09 17:25:51 <kakobrekla>	pigeons what was that python version of blockchain again?
Jan 09 17:26:04 <Bugpowder>	its about 0.5^9 chance per block to go at least 1hr 30m
Jan 09 17:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	hm is this related to ruby owningmaybe ?
Jan 09 17:26:14 <kakobrekla>	doubt it
Jan 09 17:26:15 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 0.5^9
Jan 09 17:26:15 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Jan 09 17:26:24 <Bugpowder>	0.002
Jan 09 17:26:39 <kakobrekla>	ok
Jan 09 17:26:41 <kakobrekla>	we have a block
Jan 09 17:26:43 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Jan 09 17:26:46 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 6 seconds
Jan 09 17:26:47 <Bugpowder>	so about every week
Jan 09 17:26:54 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 09 17:26:57 <Bugpowder>	every three days
Jan 09 17:27:00 <Bugpowder>	it should happen
Jan 09 17:27:16 <Bugpowder>	Just wait on S.DICE
Jan 09 17:27:30 <Bugpowder>	as soon as one of the whales goes on another bender.
Jan 09 17:27:36 <Bugpowder>	explosive price movements
Jan 09 17:27:53 <Bugpowder>	I am ready
Jan 09 17:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063002 = 3.1501 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Jan 09 17:28:35 <smickles>	2784
Jan 09 17:28:40 <smickles>	er
Jan 09 17:28:58 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: https://github.com/jtobey/bitcoin-abe
Jan 09 17:28:58 <smickles>	22:26 < kakobrekla> we have a block << this happened right after I fired up my cpuminer
Jan 09 17:29:13 <kakobrekla>	thanks pigeons
Jan 09 17:29:35 <smickles>	lol
Jan 09 17:29:37 <kakobrekla>	smickles must have felt good
Jan 09 17:29:54 <smickles>	total sent, 58785, then 2min later, 14525
Jan 09 17:30:34 <smickles>	clearly 50btc was just holding the blocks it found for an extra hour or so
Jan 09 17:31:15 <FabianB>	why would that make sense to hold them back?
Jan 09 17:31:25 <smickles>	i was joking FabianB ;)
Jan 09 17:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00479002 = 4.79 BTC [-]
Jan 09 17:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 976 @ 0.00479003 = 4.6751 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00479223 = 7.6676 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:33:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 274 @ 0.00479253 = 1.3132 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00473131 = 5.2044 BTC [-]
Jan 09 17:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00470315 = 5.6438 BTC [-]
Jan 09 17:37:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 764 @ 0.00479253 = 3.6615 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:37:52 <Bugpowder>	anyone here have California home price sales data?
Jan 09 17:37:58 <Bugpowder>	like a database of it/
Jan 09 17:38:24 <smickles>	Bugpowder: I was just looking at an index indicating they were rising
Jan 09 17:38:38 <Bugpowder>	yeah case-schiller looks good
Jan 09 17:38:54 <Bugpowder>	most previous RE bubbles were 7 years peak to trough
Jan 09 17:38:58 <smickles>	and that a large rental agency rushed to finialize 2.8 billion (?) in purchases
Jan 09 17:39:01 <Bugpowder>	bubble peaked in 2006
Jan 09 17:39:43 <Bugpowder>	just trying to figure out the best way to compile data for a few areas of LA to test some price prediction software
Jan 09 17:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00063002 = 10.8993 BTC [+]
Jan 09 17:47:01 <dub>	right so bitfunder does have asset pages
Jan 09 17:47:11 <dub>	just no index of or links to them
Jan 09 17:47:29 <dub>	not visibly at any rate
Jan 09 17:47:47 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you around?
Jan 09 17:48:50 <dub>	intuitivately you can go to the 'assets list' page to find the name then type /asset/'NAME'
Jan 09 17:48:54 <pigeons>	https://bitfunder.com/market
Jan 09 17:49:15 <dub>	oh cool, maybe a link to that somewhere
Jan 09 17:50:50 <kakobrekla>	its under the logo
Jan 09 17:51:18 <dub>	what logo?
Jan 09 17:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto ^^
Jan 09 17:51:26 <kakobrekla>	'logo'
Jan 09 17:51:37 <dub>	the
Jan 09 17:52:00 <dub>	'bitfunder' pic in the top left corner?
Jan 09 17:52:07 <kakobrekla>	aha
Jan 09 17:52:11 <dub>	I don't see any logos
Jan 09 17:52:58 <dub>	can you maybe screenshot with a big red circle around it? clearly I am malfunctioning
Jan 09 17:53:00 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/2t/9G/3A5XTRgc/market.png
Jan 09 17:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 876 @ 0.00479252 = 4.1982 BTC [-]
Jan 09 17:53:28 <kakobrekla>	semi-circle
Jan 09 17:53:39 <kakobrekla>	is it ok?
Jan 09 17:53:59 <dub>	maybe you have to be logged in
Jan 09 17:54:04 <kakobrekla>	im not
Jan 09 17:54:18 <dub>	well its not there for me :/
Jan 09 17:54:23 <dub>	in ff or chrome
Jan 09 17:54:28 <kakobrekla>	lul
Jan 09 17:56:09 <dub>	is it geoblocked to 'murica and eastern yurup?
Jan 09 17:57:26 <dub>	I select all'd and don't see a hidden element, nor is firebug showing any failed calls
Jan 09 17:59:03 <dub>	wow works on my phone
Jan 09 17:59:07 <markedathome>	I'm in chrome, and I don't see the view market link. however in the source to /assetlist I can see a href=/market (line 92)
Jan 09 17:59:10 <kakobrekla>	its in the nav nav-pills
Jan 09 17:59:15 <dub>	that is fucked up
Jan 09 17:59:19 <kakobrekla>	ul class
Jan 09 17:59:24 <dub>	could be my transproxy
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Jan 09 17:59:43 <mircea_popescu>	so the guy who lied about having 1k basics on backorder
Jan 09 17:59:45 <mircea_popescu>	"Not yet :-) Maybe we can save bASIC somehow ... we still work on that :-) I hope in 1 week we will know how we stand in this project."
Jan 09 17:59:46 <dub>	but it worked from home which is also behind it
Jan 09 17:59:47 <Bugpowder>	safari 6.0.2 with no account worked
Jan 09 18:00:18 <markedathome>	so is bASIC bitcoinasics.com, or is that a different one? and is or isn't it being sold?
Jan 09 18:00:19 <Bugpowder>	never send money to people over the internet who write in broken engrish
Jan 09 18:00:22 <Bugpowder>	1st rule
Jan 09 18:00:26 <dub>	^
Jan 09 18:00:37 <kakobrekla>	shit i write broken engrish
Jan 09 18:00:40 <dub>	well there is a superceeding rule
Jan 09 18:00:41 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 09 18:00:46 <Bugpowder>	not rike this
Jan 09 18:00:50 <dub>	never deal with chinese.
Jan 09 18:01:11 <Bugpowder>	wow
Jan 09 18:01:20 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE is underpriced on bitfunder
Jan 09 18:01:40 <Bugpowder>	I guess its only a few shares
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Jan 09 18:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1424 @ 0.0006339 = 0.9027 BTC [+]
Jan 09 18:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5438 @ 0.00063874 = 3.4735 BTC [+]
Jan 09 18:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1338 @ 0.00064713 = 0.8659 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 18:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i expect them to be underpriced on all the pt's because of the cost of getting shares sent to mpex accts
Jan 09 18:08:03 <FabianB>	it was 48 on bitfunder though before it got there on mpex i think
Jan 09 18:08:17 <FabianB>	just lower volume, so higher volatility
Jan 09 18:08:31 <Bugpowder>	bid is at 0.5 on havelock
Jan 09 18:08:33 <Bugpowder>	or was
Jan 09 18:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 124 @ 0.00479252 = 0.5943 BTC [-]
Jan 09 18:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 163 @ 0.00479253 = 0.7812 BTC [+]
Jan 09 18:09:18 <mircea_popescu>	im just talking long term trends
Jan 09 18:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	other than that, i expect spreads to also be wider, obviously, and volatilty higher.
Jan 09 18:09:38 <Bugpowder>	ya
Jan 09 18:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	but those are par for the course, no big news there.
Jan 09 18:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/75/
Jan 09 18:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha 1500:1
Jan 09 18:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	highest spread yet.
Jan 09 18:12:33 <Bugpowder>	so, whats the timetable on selectable decay?
Jan 09 18:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 949 @ 0.00479253 = 4.5481 BTC [+]
Jan 09 18:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 951 @ 0.00479599 = 4.561 BTC [+]
Jan 09 18:13:08 <Bugpowder>	Would be great to have by Jan 20th
Jan 09 18:13:51 <Bugpowder>	When superbowl teams will be known
Jan 09 18:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	possibly yeah.
Jan 09 18:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 249 @ 0.00479599 = 1.1942 BTC [+]
Jan 09 18:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 151 @ 0.00479784 = 0.7245 BTC [+]
Jan 09 18:17:21 <thestringpuller>	anyone have code for sale?
Jan 09 18:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Jan 09 18:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	349782988282
Jan 09 18:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	how much ?
Jan 09 18:17:58 <thestringpuller>	what is that number?
Jan 09 18:18:22 <thestringpuller>	i need a specific couplibg for java
Jan 09 18:18:27 <thestringpuller>	coupling
Jan 09 18:19:28 <thestringpuller>	no sellers? boo
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Jan 09 18:25:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00475049 = 6.8882 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 18:32:18 <jurov>	thestringpuller, ask on freelancer.com
Jan 09 18:33:18 <mircea_popescu>	or fiver or w/e its called
Jan 09 18:33:50 <thestringpuller>	thats lame
Jan 09 18:34:02 <thestringpuller>	and overpriced
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Jan 09 18:38:02 <thestringpuller>	jurov: coinbr isnt  mobile friendly :(
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Jan 09 18:39:52 <jurov>	why exactly? fixed width? well, it isn't many things...
Jan 09 18:40:27 <thestringpuller>	that and mobile need special arrangement for one handedness
Jan 09 18:40:43 <thestringpuller>	it is a very 2 handed site
Jan 09 18:42:18 <jurov>	website one handedness? that's rather new term for me
Jan 09 18:44:01 <jurov>	but i'm uncool dork sticking to phones with qwerty keyboard anyway
Jan 09 18:44:51 <jurov>	already seen some full of something blogger proclaim their timely death
Jan 09 18:45:34 <thestringpuller>	i drive a lot like a trucker so I need one handed apps
Jan 09 18:45:39 <thestringpuller>	or walking
Jan 09 18:46:20 <jurov>	so you are trading on mpex while driving? i should ban you before mircea does :)
Jan 09 18:47:31 <thestringpuller>	meh
Jan 09 18:48:08 <thestringpuller>	now i am parked
Jan 09 18:48:27 <thestringpuller>	and no I don't trade while drving, but if I needed to I couldn't
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Jan 09 18:48:37 <thestringpuller>	:P
Jan 09 18:49:31 <jurov>	anyway. now that thing started to at least partially fund its development, things should be moving
Jan 09 18:49:36 <thestringpuller>	!ticker O.CUSD140T
Jan 09 18:49:38 <assbot>	Invalid ticker.
Jan 09 18:50:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker O.BTCUSD.C140T
Jan 09 18:50:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1day: 0.0164898 / 0.08556389 / 0.09707624 (7 shares, 0.60 BTC), 30day: 0.01359389 / 0.03076661 / 0.19999999 (1136 shares, 34.95 BTC)
Jan 09 18:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00477588 = 4.7759 BTC [+]
Jan 09 18:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 242 @ 0.00475049 = 1.1496 BTC [-]
Jan 09 18:50:27 <jurov>	and today i finally tidied up after the bitvps mess
Jan 09 18:50:46 <thestringpuller>	how come bitvps stock hasnt plummeted?
Jan 09 18:50:56 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.BVPS
Jan 09 18:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.00200003 / 0.0034158 / 0.0067 (14758 shares, 50.41 BTC)
Jan 09 18:51:23 <jurov>	it would, if namjies wouldn't buy it all out
Jan 09 18:51:44 <thestringpuller>	is there any asks?
Jan 09 18:51:52 <mod6>	a lot
Jan 09 18:52:18 <jurov>	oh, and it got shiny new ssl certificate... some folks warned me that it wouldn't work on xp or android
Jan 09 18:52:24 <thestringpuller>	mod6 where you been?
Jan 09 18:52:37 <jurov>	but as it hear you complaining about layout instead, all seems well :)
Jan 09 18:52:53 <mod6>	I've been around, day job is killing me
Jan 09 18:52:58 <mircea_popescu>	kill it back
Jan 09 18:53:12 <mod6>	wish i could. :/
Jan 09 18:53:54 <mod6>	its waaaaay too much work for one person.
Jan 09 18:54:14 <thestringpuller>	stop bein a lil bitch
Jan 09 18:54:16 <thestringpuller>	i kod
Jan 09 18:54:18 <thestringpuller>	kid*
Jan 09 18:54:27 <mod6>	Hehe, you wanna take over?
Jan 09 18:54:38 <thestringpuller>	bitotter? sure
Jan 09 18:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	THIS IS THE REAL GAME CHANGER IN THIS eMINING GAME.
Jan 09 18:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	poor tom.
Jan 09 18:55:40 <mod6>	I want it to get finished, I just wish I could get it done.
Jan 09 18:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a pop song :D
Jan 09 18:56:26 <mod6>	My day job is basically 3 sr. dev jobs rolled into one.  It didn't go as planned, we were supposed to make a lot more money and have a staff by now to alivate the pressure
Jan 09 18:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	"march seems like a long way away but its really not and besides  i was not going to set another possibly uni obtainable date and than fall short."
Jan 09 18:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	This is an ironclad guaranteed shipping date and I give my personal word and reputation on this date.
Jan 09 18:57:18 <mod6>	and... its nuts, can't catch a break on anything. I want to do bitotter full time, but if I did that, I'd be out on the street.
Jan 09 18:57:30 <mod6>	and I've already been there, done that, so ... whatever
Jan 09 18:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	you could trade while you drive...
Jan 09 18:58:06 <mod6>	hahha
Jan 09 18:58:16 <jurov>	they don't pay enough for these 3 sr. dev jobs?
Jan 09 18:58:16 <mod6>	I dont drive... but thats where the idea came from.
Jan 09 18:58:31 <mod6>	dude, no. im getting ripped of MAJOR league.
Jan 09 18:59:08 <mod6>	see, i get a base, but I'm supposed to make some more off the sale of the equity or whatever.
Jan 09 18:59:23 <jurov>	can't you tell you are leaving? it worked for me (except i was leaving regardless of money)
Jan 09 18:59:34 <mod6>	im actually pretty poor.
Jan 09 18:59:44 <mod6>	the crash wiped me out
Jan 09 18:59:51 <mod6>	and now i'm pissed off, so here i am :)
Jan 09 19:00:14 <mod6>	but.. in the mean time, I still gotta generate worthless $$ so I can pay the rent and the power and the internet
Jan 09 19:00:29 <jurov>	you dodged my question :)
Jan 09 19:00:46 <mod6>	yeah, i screamed at these guys... for 18 months.
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Jan 09 19:00:55 <mod6>	its a bad deal.
Jan 09 19:00:59 <mod6>	im stuck for the time being.
Jan 09 19:01:35 <jurov>	between screaming and calmly announcing i'm outta here is big difference
Jan 09 19:02:14 <jurov>	in worst case, they'll hire you back
Jan 09 19:02:34 <mod6>	well, im describing it poorly. its my problem. i've told these people off a lot, but the money keeps coming in, and there arn't a lot of other options for a guy like me.
Jan 09 19:02:40 <mod6>	its either this or walmart.
Jan 09 19:02:54 <mod6>	which i did, for 9 months after the crash.
Jan 09 19:03:07 <mod6>	but I'd rather revolt than work there another single day.
Jan 09 19:03:54 <mod6>	i dunno. its a big problem.
Jan 09 19:04:00 <mircea_popescu>	eh don't sweat it.
Jan 09 19:04:07 <mircea_popescu>	as long as you keep working things will eventually settle.
Jan 09 19:04:16 <mircea_popescu>	many people got wiped in the crash.
Jan 09 19:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	about a third managed to dig themselves back out, the younger ones mostly.
Jan 09 19:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	the rest will, this decade.
Jan 09 19:05:07 <mod6>	I'm neary back on my feet, but the amt of $ is small, and it hardly covers the rising costs of shit.
Jan 09 19:05:15 <mod6>	which is why I cant drive or even own a car.
Jan 09 19:06:00 <mod6>	omg thats such a long story. i haven't owned a car since 2007
Jan 09 19:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	i've never driven a car.
Jan 09 19:07:02 <mod6>	Really?
Jan 09 19:07:13 <mod6>	I guess you're not missing anything.
Jan 09 19:07:18 <mod6>	Just traffic, ll.
Jan 09 19:07:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Jan 09 19:07:37 <mod6>	i mainly walk every where I go these days.
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Jan 09 19:07:51 <jurov>	mod6, actually, if you're behaving so desperately towards your boss too, no wonder they undervalue you...
Jan 09 19:07:53 <mod6>	sometimes my gf drives me, but she hates carting me around. f
Jan 09 19:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	walking is actually wonderful for one's health.
Jan 09 19:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	course in yurp it's a lot more practicable.
Jan 09 19:08:35 <mod6>	jurov: well, its not desperation really. its that im stubborn when I feel like I'm being taken for a ride.
Jan 09 19:08:50 <mod6>	no one likes to be ripped off, yet, I'm being ripped off with out much to do about it.
Jan 09 19:10:11 <jurov>	i don't get it. if you really do the work of 3 seniors, it's not like they can find a replacement in a week
Jan 09 19:10:32 <mod6>	I dont think they could easily replace me.
Jan 09 19:11:03 <jurov>	so you do have something to bargain over, no?
Jan 09 19:11:27 <mod6>	Yeah, but after 18 months of trying to get them to the table, all I've received is some Warrents.
Jan 09 19:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	stock warrants can be good.
Jan 09 19:11:56 <mod6>	for one of the orgs, the other two are now one, as one of them was absorbed by the other.
Jan 09 19:12:19 <mod6>	yeah, its not too bad if we ever do something right and get it to the market... but thats a few years off.
Jan 09 19:13:10 <mod6>	its just hard because I've got no help.  And I've got two 65+ year old guys who are supposed to help with "support", but lol.
Jan 09 19:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	so talk to a headhunder.
Jan 09 19:13:24 <mod6>	I've spent more time talking about what DNS is and how it works ... omg
Jan 09 19:13:28 <mod6>	its nuts.
Jan 09 19:14:02 <mod6>	yeah, lots of headhunters call me up... talk to at least 2 per week. no one has anything thats more than a 6 mo. contract...
Jan 09 19:14:14 <mod6>	which is fine, but its usually not worth the money.
Jan 09 19:14:23 <mod6>	google called me directly... tried to get me to move to SF.
Jan 09 19:14:31 <mod6>	the cocksuckers didn't even offer to pay for my move.
Jan 09 19:14:39 <mod6>	what a disappointment.
Jan 09 19:15:47 <mod6>	*sigh*
Jan 09 19:15:50 <mod6>	bbl
Jan 09 19:16:11 <jurov>	looool, if google did call me, i'd move there. on my own expense
Jan 09 19:16:20 <jurov>	from yurp
Jan 09 19:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	they don't call me, they know i wouldn't consider it.
Jan 09 19:17:08 <jurov>	now i won't consider it, too. they missed their chances :P
Jan 09 19:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Jan 09 19:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	that's the spirit
Jan 09 19:17:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 849 @ 0.00479784 = 4.0734 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2083 @ 0.0047979 = 9.994 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2418 @ 0.0048 = 11.6064 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	so s.dice cleared about what, 3k or so this month so far ?
Jan 09 19:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 981 @ 0.00478066 = 4.6898 BTC [-]
Jan 09 19:22:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5762 @ 0.00064713 = 3.7288 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:22:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00064896 = 3.5044 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00065477 = 4.9435 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00065998 = 14.7176 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:22:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6090 @ 0.00065999 = 4.0193 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:22:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252898 @ 0.00066 = 166.9127 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:24:57 <jurov>	yup, beautiful spread. would launch the bot if there were more trades
Jan 09 19:25:18 <jurov>	*must enable trading while driving*
Jan 09 19:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1091 @ 0.00478066 = 5.2157 BTC [-]
Jan 09 19:26:58 <mod6>	haha
Jan 09 19:29:44 <mod6>	Well aside from not wanting to be a cog in the wheel of Google, I never want to live in California.
Jan 09 19:29:50 <mod6>	Especially not now.
Jan 09 19:31:24 <jurov>	if it's so much worse than whatever you have now...
Jan 09 19:32:01 <mod6>	Thats just it... sit here and suck on it, or move out there and be surrounded by Californians.
Jan 09 19:32:27 <mod6>	trying to get me to go to Yoga and drink a fucking vegtible smoothie.
Jan 09 19:32:45 <mod6>	ugh
Jan 09 19:33:19 <jurov>	that's the spirit, indeed
Jan 09 19:33:35 <mod6>	Anyway, I think I'll just have to switch it up this year perhaps. If I can find the right fit, that would be nice.
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Jan 09 19:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 215 @ 0.00478066 = 1.0278 BTC [-]
Jan 09 19:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1222 @ 0.00477618 = 5.8365 BTC [-]
Jan 09 19:34:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2008 @ 0.00475049 = 9.539 BTC [-]
Jan 09 19:34:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00474048 = 0.0237 BTC [-]
Jan 09 19:34:18 <mod6>	I really just want to do BitOTTer full time.  Hopefully that'll be sooner rather than later.
Jan 09 19:34:47 <jurov>	business model? donations?
Jan 09 19:34:51 <mod6>	Now its just hard because I get like 69 minutes here and there to dive into it.  Makes it tough.
Jan 09 19:36:16 <mod6>	Well, there is a model, kind of, that I've been kicking around.  I've thought about the donation thing -- if donations were accepted, they could go straight to the developers who help.
Jan 09 19:36:37 <mod6>	But I'm not sure about that... I don't like the idea of someone bitching about it here or on the boards or whatever.
Jan 09 19:36:51 <mod6>	"I SENT IN .1 BTC 3 MONTHS AGO, WHERE IS MY APP!!!"
Jan 09 19:36:55 <mod6>	fuck that nonsense.
Jan 09 19:37:48 <mod6>	I really care about how well it works, and if it is well received by the community.  I just gotta get these loose ends wrapped up.
Jan 09 19:38:29 <jurov>	would advise to rethink that
Jan 09 19:38:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1347 @ 0.00477154 = 6.4273 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 642 @ 0.00478603 = 3.0726 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:38:41 <mod6>	the donation part?
Jan 09 19:38:55 <jurov>	no, the things you care about
Jan 09 19:39:16 <jurov>	i knew for certain coinbr pricing won't be  "well received by the community"
Jan 09 19:39:23 <jurov>	but went ahead
Jan 09 19:39:32 <mod6>	well, maybe I don't exactly care what the community says exactly. I do care that the users have a good experience and it doesn't fuck up their account at MPEx or allow for loss of private key.
Jan 09 19:40:26 <mod6>	so far, all seems fine. just need to get this encryption stuff wrapped up, then testing.
Jan 09 19:40:40 <mod6>	The encryption stuff has been a nightmare.
Jan 09 19:40:56 <mod6>	I thought it would be /way/ easier to do this.
Jan 09 19:41:08 <mod6>	but there are issues with the bouncycastle/spongycastle
Jan 09 19:41:20 <mod6>	I'm working through them, but lack of time has slowed me down a lot.
Jan 09 19:41:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 317 @ 0.00478603 = 1.5172 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:41:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5883 @ 0.0048 = 28.2384 BTC [+]
Jan 09 19:42:40 <mod6>	but anyway, I'm just gonna keep working at it.
Jan 09 19:42:59 <mod6>	good things will happen.  I'm pretty good at getting this stuff figured out, its just a matter of time.
Jan 09 19:46:31 <mod6>	its hard to stay positive these days... but BTC and MPEx keep me going :)
Jan 09 19:46:59 <thestringpuller>	stop being over dramatic
Jan 09 19:47:00 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 09 19:47:05 <thestringpuller>	i kid
Jan 09 19:49:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 695 @ 0.00474048 = 3.2946 BTC [-]
Jan 09 19:49:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1055 @ 0.00471985 = 4.9794 BTC [-]
Jan 09 19:50:01 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (0.00478 - 0.0047) / 0.0047
Jan 09 19:50:01 <gribble>	0.0170212765957
Jan 09 19:50:08 <thestringpuller>	soon my pretty
Jan 09 19:53:26 <thestringpuller>	ls
Jan 09 19:53:48 <thestringpuller>	cat somethingsomethingdarkside
Jan 09 19:56:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 245 @ 0.00471985 = 1.1564 BTC [-]
Jan 09 19:56:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1059 @ 0.0047081 = 4.9859 BTC [-]
Jan 09 19:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 896 @ 0.00470316 = 4.214 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:04:43 <jurov>	looks like someone has got insider info about upcoming MPBOR
Jan 09 20:05:05 <jurov>	CoinBr.MPBPT-O indicates 20% lol
Jan 09 20:05:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117500 @ 0.00066 = 77.55 BTC [+]
Jan 09 20:07:04 <mircea_popescu>	"please leave your number with Dave so I can call you because those other numbers are no longer working"
Jan 09 20:07:14 <mircea_popescu>	heck is that.
Jan 09 20:16:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00477096 = 7.6335 BTC [+]
Jan 09 20:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00474602 = 2.8476 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:18:11 <mircea_popescu>	yes I had a few drinks before I posted that post (last night) - I was fucking heart broken, some of you look at my like im a fucking scammer and it kills me - I helped start some of the infrastructure Bitcoin runs on today, and have set many Bitcoin firsts
Jan 09 20:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	just how many of these original idiots are left i wonder.
Jan 09 20:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	But please understand I tried the best at the best of my ability and I can't take any of this anymore. I am not the right man for this job. Your new ASIAN benefactors will be online soon to greet you all
Jan 09 20:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 295 @ 0.0048 = 1.416 BTC [+]
Jan 09 20:22:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 766 @ 0.00474602 = 3.6355 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1362 @ 0.0047325 = 6.4457 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:23:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1772 @ 0.00472643 = 8.3752 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 20:31:25 <mircea_popescu>	so anyway, did cablepair announce the azns yet ? or the 8th tomorrow hasn't come so far ?
Jan 09 20:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 260000 @ 0.00066 = 171.6 BTC [+]
Jan 09 20:37:20 <kakobrekla>	>R the ASIANS gonna add clock buffers???
Jan 09 20:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 252 @ 0.00477203 = 1.2026 BTC [+]
Jan 09 20:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 104 @ 0.00470316 = 0.4891 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 148 @ 0.00470315 = 0.6961 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:38:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1275 @ 0.00469395 = 5.9848 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00469395 = 2.347 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Jan 09 20:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1275 @ 0.00469395 = 5.9848 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:48:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00468978 = 7.9726 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:48:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 25 @ 0.00467679 = 0.1169 BTC [-]
Jan 09 20:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00479729 = 7.9155 BTC [+]
Jan 09 20:55:01 <dub>	I just calmly told old employer they didnt value me enough
Jan 09 20:56:23 <dub>	they said ok and did nothing for another couple of months, so I calmly resigned. They shat brix, offered a decent retention package but no real improvement
Jan 09 20:56:42 <dub>	so I left and got hired immediately by a customer for a shitload more
Jan 09 20:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.29995139 = 299.9514 BTC [+]
Jan 09 20:58:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.19693531 BTC [+]
Jan 09 20:58:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 999 @ 0.2416106 = 241.369 BTC [+]
Jan 09 20:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	i've never been employed.
Jan 09 21:02:46 <dub>	its not all bad, the old job I worked from home 90% of the time and since home is near the beach I 'worked' from the beach a fair bit
Jan 09 21:03:48 <dub>	have run own business before and that wasnt much fun
Jan 09 21:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	i like it.
Jan 09 21:08:49 <kakobrekla>	runing your own biz = self employed
Jan 09 21:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00467679 = 5.3783 BTC [-]
Jan 09 21:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Jan 09 21:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	i just employ others.
Jan 09 21:13:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2025 @ 0.00467679 = 9.4705 BTC [-]
Jan 09 21:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 625 @ 0.00467652 = 2.9228 BTC [-]
Jan 09 21:22:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00476977 = 2.3849 BTC [+]
Jan 09 21:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.24148842 = 241.4884 BTC [-]
Jan 09 21:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.29984697 = 299.847 BTC [-]
Jan 09 21:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.0047285 = 6.1471 BTC [-]
Jan 09 21:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00476977 = 5.7237 BTC [+]
Jan 09 21:36:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 549 @ 0.00472827 = 2.5958 BTC [-]
Jan 09 21:36:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2451 @ 0.00467399 = 11.4559 BTC [-]
Jan 09 21:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2213 @ 0.00476486 = 10.5446 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 21:55:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1085 @ 0.00469672 = 5.0959 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 22:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1172 @ 0.00472033 = 5.5322 BTC [+]
Jan 09 22:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 87 @ 0.00476486 = 0.4145 BTC [+]
Jan 09 22:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 141 @ 0.00479139 = 0.6756 BTC [+]
Jan 09 22:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/01/08/are-raising-generation-deluded-narcissists/
Jan 09 22:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 09 22:11:49 <dub>	dude stop reading fox
Jan 09 22:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00479139 = 5.2705 BTC [+]
Jan 09 22:14:03 <dub>	next you'll be linking infowars
Jan 09 22:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	haha i think i already have
Jan 09 22:18:09 <mircea_popescu>	what's wrong with fox anyway ?
Jan 09 22:19:45 <dub>	its the stupid network
Jan 09 22:20:31 <dub>	another religion for banjo playing hillbillies
Jan 09 22:21:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15 @ 0.00469672 = 0.0705 BTC [-]
Jan 09 22:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 299 @ 0.00467399 = 1.3975 BTC [-]
Jan 09 22:21:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 754 @ 0.00466988 = 3.5211 BTC [-]
Jan 09 22:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 825 @ 0.0046657 = 3.8492 BTC [-]
Jan 09 22:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 657 @ 0.00466144 = 3.0626 BTC [-]
Jan 09 22:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 643 @ 0.00466144 = 2.9973 BTC [-]
Jan 09 22:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 457 @ 0.00465261 = 2.1262 BTC [-]
Jan 09 22:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	A new analysis of the American Freshman Survey, which has accumulated data for the past 47 years from 9 million young adults, reveals that college students are more likely than ever to call themselves gifted and driven to succeed, even though their test scores and time spent studying are decreasing.
Jan 09 22:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	seems spot on to me.
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Jan 09 22:37:27 <kakobrekla>	!ticker
Jan 09 22:37:28 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 09 22:37:32 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m
Jan 09 22:37:32 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 09 22:37:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 59 @ 0.00479139 = 0.2827 BTC [+]
Jan 09 22:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1391 @ 0.00479569 = 6.6708 BTC [+]
Jan 09 22:38:17 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 09 22:38:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00459207 / 0.00473849 / 0.0048 (298121 shares, 1,412.65 BTC), 1W: 0.00353735 / 0.00430793 / 0.0048 (2130686 shares, 9,178.86 BTC), 1M: 0.0014 / 0.00342682 / 0.0048 (14196612 shares, 48,649.34 BTC)
Jan 09 22:38:26 <kakobrekla>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 09 22:38:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.483246445498 / 0.50000000 (422 shares, 203.93000000 BTC), 1W: 0.37000000 / 0.447561927377 / 0.62000000 (2947 shares, 1318.96499998 BTC), 1M: 0.37000000 / 0.447561927377 / 0.62000000 (2947 shares, 1318.96499998 BTC),
Jan 09 22:38:37 <kakobrekla>	theryago
Jan 09 22:39:00 <kakobrekla>	you can use H or HL or HAVELOCK / M or MP or MPEX
Jan 09 22:39:20 <kakobrekla>	!ticker x sdice
Jan 09 22:39:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.483246445498 / 0.50000000 (422 shares, 203.93000000 BTC), 1W: 0.37000000 / 0.447561927377 / 0.62000000 (2947 shares, 1318.96499998 BTC), 1M: 0.37000000 / 0.447561927377 / 0.62000000 (2947 shares, 1318.96499998 BTC),
Jan 09 22:39:28 <kakobrekla>	wat
Jan 09 22:39:42 <dub>	!ticker wat wat
Jan 09 22:39:44 <assbot>	Shit Tyrone, get it together!
Jan 09 22:39:45 <kakobrekla>	!ticker x wat
Jan 09 22:39:47 <assbot>	Shit Tyrone, get it together!
Jan 09 22:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 09 22:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker a sdice
Jan 09 22:40:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.483246445498 / 0.50000000 (422 shares, 203.93000000 BTC), 1W: 0.37000000 / 0.447561927377 / 0.62000000 (2947 shares, 1318.96499998 BTC), 1M: 0.37000000 / 0.447561927377 / 0.62000000 (2947 shares, 1318.96499998 BTC),
Jan 09 22:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker hl s.dice
Jan 09 22:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00459207 / 0.00473849 / 0.0048 (298121 shares, 1,412.65 BTC), 1W: 0.00353735 / 0.00430793 / 0.0048 (2130686 shares, 9,178.86 BTC), 1M: 0.0014 / 0.00342682 / 0.0048 (14196612 shares, 48,649.34 BTC)
Jan 09 22:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	it does wordmatching huh
Jan 09 22:41:02 <kakobrekla>	well
Jan 09 22:41:09 <kakobrekla>	at this point it only tries
Jan 09 22:41:10 <kakobrekla>	and fails
Jan 09 22:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 09 22:41:24 <kakobrekla>	i dont test this shit
Jan 09 22:41:30 <kakobrekla>	i just input some code and give it a go
Jan 09 22:41:33 <kakobrekla>	see if it blows
Jan 09 22:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	that's called testing
Jan 09 22:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	1d 7d 30d
Jan 09 22:41:48 <kakobrekla>	live testing i guess :)
Jan 09 22:41:54 <mircea_popescu>	would be moar reasonable than 1W
Jan 09 22:42:02 <kakobrekla>	1w is shorter
Jan 09 22:42:08 <kakobrekla>	but mkay ill flip back to 7d
Jan 09 22:42:11 <mircea_popescu>	ya but nobody uses W and M in English
Jan 09 22:42:24 <kakobrekla>	i do
Jan 09 22:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	"This data is not unexpected.  I have been writing a great deal over the past few years about the toxic psychological impact of media and technology on children, adolescents and young adults, particularly as it regards turning them into faux celebrities—the equivalent of lead actors in their own fictionalized life stories."
Jan 09 22:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	dub ^^
Jan 09 22:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	hate on fox some moar.
Jan 09 22:43:38 <dub>	fox is not responsible for that
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Jan 09 22:44:39 <dub>	they are just reporting subject matter that is relevant to their ageing hillbilly audience
Jan 09 22:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	such as me.
Jan 09 22:45:27 <dub>	that guy, who incidentelly looks more like a rapist than any other person I have laid eyes on, has a point though
Jan 09 22:45:50 <mircea_popescu>	aha.
Jan 09 22:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	even the notion that someone looks like a rapist is a product of this imbecilic outgrowth of pop culture.
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Jan 09 22:46:32 <kakobrekla>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 09 22:46:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.483246445498 / 0.50000000 (422 shares, 203.93000000 BTC), 1W: 0.37000000 / 0.447561927377 / 0.62000000 (2947 shares, 1318.96499998 BTC), 1M: 0.37000000 / 0.447561927377 / 0.62000000 (2947 shares, 1318.96499998 BTC),
Jan 09 22:46:39 <kakobrekla>	!ticker hl sdice
Jan 09 22:46:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.483246445498 / 0.50000000 (422 shares, 203.93000000 BTC), 1W: 0.37000000 / 0.447561927377 / 0.62000000 (2947 shares, 1318.96499998 BTC), 1M: 0.37000000 / 0.447561927377 / 0.62000000 (2947 shares, 1318.96499998 BTC),
Jan 09 22:46:41 <dub>	bullshit
Jan 09 22:46:44 <kakobrekla>	!ticker x sdice
Jan 09 22:46:46 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 09 22:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 09 22:47:20 <dub>	people look like rapists because they are probably rapists
Jan 09 22:47:21 <kakobrekla>	ah the timestamps damn
Jan 09 22:47:23 <kakobrekla>	one sec
Jan 09 22:47:35 <dub>	take Luke-Jr
Jan 09 22:47:44 <mircea_popescu>	dub that's just a rehash of frenology, a thoroughly discredited load of bunk
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Jan 09 22:47:55 <dub>	one rapey looking motherfucker
Jan 09 22:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	much like all the rest of kitsch-art, pseudo-science and fake exotism that makes up the pop.
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Jan 09 22:48:04 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 09 22:48:06 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00459207 / 0.0047387 / 0.0048 (299349 shares, 1,418.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00353735 / 0.0043083 / 0.0048 (2132486 shares, 9,187.41 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00342699 / 0.0048 (14198412 shares, 48,657.89 BTC)
Jan 09 22:48:12 <dub>	who incidentlayy commits what most civilised people would call rape on a regular basis
Jan 09 22:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00474875 = 8.5478 BTC [-]
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Jan 09 22:49:07 <kakobrekla>	ok so thats that
Jan 09 22:49:11 <kakobrekla>	next is burnside
Jan 09 22:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00469603 = 4.2264 BTC [-]
Jan 09 22:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00469603 = 6.3396 BTC [-]
Jan 09 22:56:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00468597 = 0.9372 BTC [-]
Jan 09 22:56:50 <pigeons>	Ukto still sore over twatter?
Jan 09 23:00:01 <kakobrekla>	something like that
Jan 09 23:00:18 <mircea_popescu>	Confirmed total: 300 BTC
Jan 09 23:00:18 <mircea_popescu>	eee
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Jan 09 23:09:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00468622 = 1.8745 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 23:14:58 <pigeons>	oh good, they are working on something, http://mineforeman.com/2013/01/09/butterfly-labs-unveils-native-android-mining-platform/
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Jan 09 23:19:48 <kakobrekla>	!ticker bt ltc-mining
Jan 09 23:19:50 <assbot>	[BTCT:LTC-MINING] 1D: 0.4399 / 0.44 / 0.44 ( shares,  BTC), 7D: na / 0.44 / na
Jan 09 23:19:56 <kakobrekla>	righto.
Jan 09 23:20:06 <kakobrekla>	is wat we get for nao
Jan 09 23:20:35 <kakobrekla>	hm
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Jan 09 23:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons im so glad i didn't list any of them asic ppls.
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Jan 09 23:22:36 <kakobrekla>	!ticker bt COGNITIVE
Jan 09 23:22:39 <assbot>	[BTCT:COGNITIVE] 1D: 0.41 / 0.4366 / 0.4977D: na / 0.49 / na
Jan 09 23:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	fucking undefensible strategic choice that pays out in the end.
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Jan 09 23:24:03 <kakobrekla>	shees finally
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Jan 09 23:31:04 <kakobrekla>	fuckin typos.
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Jan 09 23:41:47 <Ukto>	pigeons:  more like butthurt
Jan 09 23:42:01 <Ukto>	:P
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Jan 09 23:48:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00468622 = 6.0921 BTC [+]
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Jan 09 23:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	there really should be more drama
Jan 09 23:53:26 <mircea_popescu>	price is going to collapse atthis rate.
Jan 09 23:55:24 <Ukto>	mp: wanna do an exchange war?
Jan 09 23:55:25 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 09 23:55:31 <Ukto>	call each other names in public
Jan 09 23:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 09 23:55:37 <Ukto>	slapstick etc
Jan 09 23:55:47 <Ukto>	make funny images about each other
Jan 09 23:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135574.0
Jan 09 23:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	working at it.
Jan 09 23:56:08 <Ukto>	until someone posts a pic of us out drinking together @ the strip club
Jan 09 23:56:09 <Ukto>	:PO
Jan 09 23:56:52 <mircea_popescu>	at my strip club ?
Jan 09 23:56:57 *	Ukto shrugs
Jan 09 23:57:13 <Ukto>	u dont like nekid women?
Jan 09 23:58:11 <mircea_popescu>	sure i do.
Jan 09 23:58:21 <Ukto>	them lets gp
Jan 09 23:58:23 <Ukto>	go
Jan 09 23:58:49 <Ukto>	is it degrading to enjoy fine art there?
Jan 09 23:59:38 <mircea_popescu>	go where lol
Jan 09 23:59:49 <Ukto>	strip club :P
Jan 10 00:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	BREAKING : Josh found a crate of old high end ASICs by the grocery shop parking lot
Jan 10 00:00:14 <Ukto>	LOL
Jan 10 00:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	BFL will be delivering boards with sanded off chips soon.
Jan 10 00:00:37 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Jan 10 00:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00469907 = 1.8796 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 00:08:41 <kakobrekla>	dss bressert, mt4 vs mt5 http://shrani.si/f/2a/UZ/1qD6WtgS/mt4mt5dss.png
Jan 10 00:08:44 <kakobrekla>	fucked up.
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Jan 10 00:15:36 <Graet>	strip club?
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Jan 10 00:23:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 153 @ 0.00469565 = 0.7184 BTC [-]
Jan 10 00:25:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16601 @ 0.00065675 = 10.9027 BTC [-]
Jan 10 00:29:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00468622 = 0.9372 BTC [-]
Jan 10 00:29:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00468598 = 4.686 BTC [-]
Jan 10 00:29:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00468597 = 3.7488 BTC [-]
Jan 10 00:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00468597 = 2.8116 BTC [-]
Jan 10 00:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 443 @ 0.00465261 = 2.0611 BTC [-]
Jan 10 00:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00465197 = 1.3956 BTC [-]
Jan 10 00:46:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 807 @ 0.00465182 = 3.754 BTC [-]
Jan 10 00:50:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 157 @ 0.00465182 = 0.7303 BTC [-]
Jan 10 00:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 943 @ 0.00465051 = 4.3854 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 01:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2350 @ 0.00467064 = 10.976 BTC [+]
Jan 10 01:09:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00468243 = 2.1071 BTC [+]
Jan 10 01:12:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2750 @ 0.00468243 = 12.8767 BTC [+]
Jan 10 01:12:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00469414 = 3.5206 BTC [+]
Jan 10 01:12:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 597 @ 0.00469565 = 2.8033 BTC [+]
Jan 10 01:12:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 498 @ 0.00469907 = 2.3401 BTC [+]
Jan 10 01:12:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1068 @ 0.00470391 = 5.0238 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 01:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00465051 = 7.4408 BTC [-]
Jan 10 01:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 557 @ 0.00465051 = 2.5903 BTC [-]
Jan 10 01:19:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 358 @ 0.00465038 = 1.6648 BTC [-]
Jan 10 01:19:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00464902 = 8.8331 BTC [-]
Jan 10 01:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 535 @ 0.00464584 = 2.4855 BTC [-]
Jan 10 01:21:40 <JohnGalt2>	kakobrekla you own bitbet right?
Jan 10 01:21:55 <kakobrekla>	only half!
Jan 10 01:22:28 <JohnGalt2>	hehe cool, just got a silly idea
Jan 10 01:24:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00064067 = 9.7382 BTC [-]
Jan 10 01:31:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00065021 = 7.7375 BTC [+]
Jan 10 01:31:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1416 @ 0.00063363 = 0.8972 BTC [-]
Jan 10 01:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	o ya ? are you buying it ? :D
Jan 10 01:33:52 <JohnGalt2>	nope, just a stupid idea :P
Jan 10 01:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1692 @ 0.00465337 = 7.8735 BTC [+]
Jan 10 01:34:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 477 @ 0.00464584 = 2.2161 BTC [-]
Jan 10 01:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16 @ 0.00464552 = 0.0743 BTC [-]
Jan 10 01:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Jan 10 01:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00468668 = 3.515 BTC [+]
Jan 10 02:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15744 @ 0.00065675 = 10.3399 BTC [+]
Jan 10 02:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00468668 = 2.109 BTC [+]
Jan 10 02:06:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 132 @ 0.00470391 = 0.6209 BTC [+]
Jan 10 02:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 718 @ 0.00473944 = 3.4029 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 02:31:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00468724 = 4.6872 BTC [-]
Jan 10 02:43:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00472331 = 1.8893 BTC [+]
Jan 10 03:04:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00467892 = 7.4863 BTC [-]
Jan 10 03:04:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00466683 = 5.6002 BTC [-]
Jan 10 03:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1334 @ 0.00464552 = 6.1971 BTC [-]
Jan 10 03:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00463933 = 0.9279 BTC [-]
Jan 10 03:10:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00463903 = 0.4639 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 03:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00463903 = 6.2627 BTC [-]
Jan 10 03:19:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00464125 = 5.1054 BTC [+]
Jan 10 03:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00463903 = 6.4946 BTC [-]
Jan 10 03:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00463434 = 7.6467 BTC [-]
Jan 10 03:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00462257 = 0.2311 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 03:34:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 123 @ 0.00464125 = 0.5709 BTC [+]
Jan 10 03:34:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00464214 = 2.5532 BTC [+]
Jan 10 03:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 206 @ 0.00464409 = 0.9567 BTC [+]
Jan 10 03:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1841 @ 0.00464409 = 8.5498 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 03:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00462257 = 2.3113 BTC [-]
Jan 10 03:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 82 @ 0.00462029 = 0.3789 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 03:43:18 <Supa>	WTS ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 + Athlon II X3 445 + 8 GB RAM + 320 GB HD + EXTRAS for $200 on PayPal or 14 Bitcoins or 2500 Litecoins
Jan 10 03:45:17 <dub>	lmiot
Jan 10 03:45:58 <Supa>	lmiot?
Jan 10 03:49:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00462029 = 3.4652 BTC [-]
Jan 10 03:52:54 *	Supa is AFK, ZzZZzzZZzzzZzzzzz —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
Jan 10 03:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2650 @ 0.00464409 = 12.3068 BTC [+]
Jan 10 04:03:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 769 @ 0.00464409 = 3.5713 BTC [+]
Jan 10 04:03:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 180 @ 0.00468482 = 0.8433 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 04:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 318 @ 0.00462029 = 1.4693 BTC [-]
Jan 10 04:29:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 182 @ 0.00461504 = 0.8399 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 04:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00461504 = 5.3073 BTC [-]
Jan 10 04:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 320 @ 0.00468482 = 1.4991 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 04:49:16 <Sertuerner>	Hey guys, anybody know where I can buy pirate bonds?
Jan 10 04:52:41 <dub>	hilarious
Jan 10 04:52:48 <dub>	fuck sake the client is peice of shit
Jan 10 04:53:56 <Sertuerner>	Huh?
Jan 10 04:54:08 <dub>	bitcoin it sucks ass
Jan 10 04:54:45 <Sertuerner>	What's so bad about the client?
Jan 10 04:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 512 @ 0.00469031 = 2.4014 BTC [+]
Jan 10 04:55:09 <dub>	its just eaten my fucking db
Jan 10 04:55:23 <dub>	so I have no bitcoins
Jan 10 04:55:44 <dub>	until I'm synced some time next week
Jan 10 05:02:12 <Sertuerner>	It doesn't take that long to get synched :P
Jan 10 05:02:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 964 @ 0.00468718 = 4.5184 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:02:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 336 @ 0.00468096 = 1.5728 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:07:30 <dub>	cool, stuck at "blocks" : 500,
Jan 10 05:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00469031 = 4.2213 BTC [+]
Jan 10 05:07:49 <dub>	;;bc,blocks
Jan 10 05:07:49 <gribble>	215978
Jan 10 05:15:08 <Sertuerner>	So, anybody knows where I can buy one of those pirate bonds?
Jan 10 05:16:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2639 @ 0.00468096 = 12.3531 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 05:20:30 <jurov>	Sertuerner why would you want pirate bonds?
Jan 10 05:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00461504 = 10.1531 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:24:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 411 @ 0.00465106 = 1.9116 BTC [+]
Jan 10 05:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1139 @ 0.00469031 = 5.3423 BTC [+]
Jan 10 05:26:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 68 @ 0.00461504 = 0.3138 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:26:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1282 @ 0.00461332 = 5.9143 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00464627 = 6.5048 BTC [+]
Jan 10 05:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 449 @ 0.00469031 = 2.1059 BTC [+]
Jan 10 05:40:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 781 @ 0.00469234 = 3.6647 BTC [+]
Jan 10 05:44:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00467639 = 1.8706 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:44:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00467276 = 3.0373 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:46:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18768 @ 0.00063363 = 11.892 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:46:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00063002 = 5.4812 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:46:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13032 @ 0.00063001 = 8.2103 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 554 @ 0.00469234 = 2.5996 BTC [+]
Jan 10 05:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00469362 = 7.2751 BTC [+]
Jan 10 05:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 496 @ 0.00471599 = 2.3391 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 05:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00467276 = 0.7009 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1538 @ 0.00463804 = 7.1333 BTC [-]
Jan 10 05:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1062 @ 0.00461516 = 4.9013 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 06:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1154 @ 0.00471599 = 5.4423 BTC [+]
Jan 10 06:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1045 @ 0.00472252 = 4.935 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 06:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00469515 = 10.3293 BTC [-]
Jan 10 06:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00467818 = 2.8069 BTC [-]
Jan 10 06:25:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00467818 = 2.1052 BTC [-]
Jan 10 06:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 743 @ 0.00467818 = 3.4759 BTC [-]
Jan 10 06:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 521 @ 0.00461516 = 2.4045 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 06:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00468816 = 2.1097 BTC [+]
Jan 10 06:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00468098 = 3.0426 BTC [-]
Jan 10 06:43:00 <markedathome>	dub, get >0.7.2 go to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117982.0;all ; get blockchain from torrent or from http://eu1.bitcoincharts.com/blockchain/ I think it only gets up to about 190000 or so, needing around 20000 blocks left to download
Jan 10 06:43:35 <markedathome>	more info  > http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/3551/how-can-one-download-the-initial-blockchain-data-files-securely
Jan 10 06:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00468098 = 0.7021 BTC [-]
Jan 10 06:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00462295 = 7.6279 BTC [-]
Jan 10 06:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 302 @ 0.00472252 = 1.4262 BTC [+]
Jan 10 06:49:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 495 @ 0.00473615 = 2.3444 BTC [+]
Jan 10 06:49:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 782 @ 0.00473944 = 3.7062 BTC [+]
Jan 10 06:49:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 321 @ 0.00474875 = 1.5243 BTC [+]
Jan 10 06:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 779 @ 0.00474875 = 3.6993 BTC [+]
Jan 10 07:01:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1321 @ 0.00475012 = 6.2749 BTC [+]
Jan 10 07:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 541 @ 0.0046903 = 2.5375 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1808 @ 0.00475027 = 8.5885 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 07:35:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00469833 = 5.1682 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:35:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00465766 = 5.8221 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:39:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 530 @ 0.00465766 = 2.4686 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 720 @ 0.00461516 = 3.3229 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:44:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8968 @ 0.00063001 = 5.6499 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:44:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4910 @ 0.00063 = 3.0933 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 510 @ 0.0006295 = 0.321 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.0006295 = 0.2518 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0006294 = 2.5176 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.0006293 = 0.944 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28428 @ 0.00062927 = 17.8889 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 07:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00064292 = 11.444 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 07:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 383 @ 0.00461516 = 1.7676 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00461435 = 7.383 BTC [-]
Jan 10 07:56:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 617 @ 0.00461332 = 2.8464 BTC [-]
Jan 10 08:07:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 21 @ 0.00461332 = 0.0969 BTC [-]
Jan 10 08:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1029 @ 0.00461329 = 4.7471 BTC [-]
Jan 10 08:15:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 476 @ 0.00461329 = 2.1959 BTC [-]
Jan 10 08:17:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 195 @ 0.00461329 = 0.8996 BTC [-]
Jan 10 08:17:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00461321 = 2.3066 BTC [-]
Jan 10 08:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1286 @ 0.00461227 = 5.9314 BTC [-]
Jan 10 08:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00461194 = 5.5343 BTC [-]
Jan 10 08:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1628 @ 0.00461043 = 7.5058 BTC [-]
Jan 10 08:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 941 @ 0.00460851 = 4.3366 BTC [-]
Jan 10 08:23:02 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 10 08:23:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.87401, Best ask: 13.94994, Bid-ask spread: 0.07593, Last trade: 13.87350, 24 hour volume: 29908.71166561, 24 hour low: 13.65180, 24 hour high: 14.00000, 24 hour vwap: 13.85230
Jan 10 08:23:06 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 10 08:23:07 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 10 08:23:17 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 10 08:23:18 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 10 08:23:24 <Bugpowder>	!ticker MPEX S.DICE
Jan 10 08:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00459207 / 0.0047097 / 0.0048 (287563 shares, 1,354.34 BTC), 7D: 0.00360414 / 0.00432982 / 0.0048 (2210634 shares, 9,571.67 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00343545 / 0.0048 (14293412 shares, 49,104.41 BTC)
Jan 10 08:23:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00463599 = 2.0862 BTC [+]
Jan 10 08:26:39 <azx>	is S.DICE PE around 7.4?
Jan 10 08:27:50 <azx>	is this high for something like that?
Jan 10 08:30:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00065629 = 8.3349 BTC [+]
Jan 10 08:31:10 <jurov>	azx: there isn't anything much to compare to
Jan 10 08:33:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00468492 = 9.1356 BTC [+]
Jan 10 08:34:22 <azx>	PE is still PE :)
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Jan 10 08:39:49 <EskimoBob>	Interview with Butterfly Labs customers  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ERE4uiufqE Turn subtitles on!
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Jan 10 08:47:20 <abracadabra>	heh
Jan 10 08:47:28 <abracadabra>	EskimoBob any idea what the original is?
Jan 10 08:47:39 <abracadabra>	looks like a SNL sketch
Jan 10 08:48:38 <Bugpowder>	I think its a real swedish talkshow
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Jan 10 08:50:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00065473 = 1.4077 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 09:07:27 <azx>	abracadabra: i think the original is about this guy's health problems or something like that
Jan 10 09:08:03 <EskimoBob>	something like that
Jan 10 09:11:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00472984 = 5.6758 BTC [+]
Jan 10 09:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 245 @ 0.00469116 = 1.1493 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 455 @ 0.00465313 = 2.1172 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:11:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6095 @ 0.00465313 = 28.3608 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00062927 = 10.1627 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 09:16:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 59 @ 0.00460851 = 0.2719 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:16:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 791 @ 0.00460838 = 3.6452 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 09:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00461332 = 1.6147 BTC [+]
Jan 10 09:38:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 921 @ 0.00469088 = 4.3203 BTC [+]
Jan 10 09:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00461332 = 5.0747 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:40:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00460838 = 8.2951 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 579 @ 0.00469088 = 2.716 BTC [+]
Jan 10 09:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1796 @ 0.00472263 = 8.4818 BTC [+]
Jan 10 09:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1394 @ 0.00473591 = 6.6019 BTC [+]
Jan 10 09:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1231 @ 0.00474435 = 5.8403 BTC [+]
Jan 10 09:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 559 @ 0.00460838 = 2.5761 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:42:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2041 @ 0.004606 = 9.4008 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:44:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1596 @ 0.004606 = 7.3512 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:45:12 <EskimoBob>	i am looking at this "amazing" sdice. What if they have bots playing with coin from the IPO to make it look good so the rest of the IPO can be sold to the public.
Jan 10 09:45:40 <EskimoBob>	It cost close to nothing, compared to coin from IPO
Jan 10 09:46:08 <topace>	doubt it, that 5000 shares was me :p
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Jan 10 09:46:33 <EskimoBob>	if you said 5 000 000 then yes
Jan 10 09:46:40 <topace>	heh
Jan 10 09:46:49 <topace>	im not that rich :p
Jan 10 09:47:01 <EskimoBob>	but 5000 is actually a tiny portion from 100 000 000
Jan 10 09:47:11 <EskimoBob>	or even 10 000 000
Jan 10 09:48:04 <EskimoBob>	this game is boring. I wasted like 20 min there and that was it. Yawn
Jan 10 09:48:10 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 10 09:48:10 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> !ticker S.DICE
Jan 10 09:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	ok kakobrekla this is retardered.
Jan 10 09:48:32 <topace>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 10 09:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00459207 / 0.00470281 / 0.0048 (296240 shares, 1,393.16 BTC), 7D: 0.00360414 / 0.00433372 / 0.0048 (2234446 shares, 9,683.48 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00343756 / 0.0048 (14318024 shares, 49,219.12 BTC)
Jan 10 09:48:39 <kakobrekla>	what
Jan 10 09:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	that you now have to type two words ?
Jan 10 09:48:55 <kakobrekla>	uhum
Jan 10 09:49:21 <EskimoBob>	you write way too many words here every day.
Jan 10 09:49:43 <kakobrekla>	or else ill be doing 3+ requests each time trying to guess which exchange should i take ze data from
Jan 10 09:50:16 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: split every market to different bot
Jan 10 09:50:20 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 10 09:50:26 <kakobrekla>	are you guys high or something
Jan 10 09:50:34 <EskimoBob>	:)
Jan 10 09:50:39 <kakobrekla>	though so.
Jan 10 09:50:40 <EskimoBob>	so I can ban assbot
Jan 10 09:50:49 <EskimoBob>	but still see info from other markets
Jan 10 09:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	well it's still the ux suck.
Jan 10 09:51:33 <EskimoBob>	this one stock wunderland is like spam
Jan 10 09:52:11 <kakobrekla>	you can censor just the selected lines
Jan 10 09:52:34 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: not sure if weechat can do it
Jan 10 09:52:38 <topace>	!ticker havelock sdice
Jan 10 09:52:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.483824289406 / 0.50000000 (387 shares, 187.24000000 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.447719743063 / 0.62000000 (2958 shares, 1324.35499998 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.447719743063 / 0.62000000 (2958 shares, 1324.35499998 BTC),
Jan 10 09:53:04 <kakobrekla>	!ticker h sidce
Jan 10 09:53:05 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 09:53:13 <kakobrekla>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 10 09:53:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.483824289406 / 0.50000000 (387 shares, 187.24000000 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.447719743063 / 0.62000000 (2958 shares, 1324.35499998 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.447719743063 / 0.62000000 (2958 shares, 1324.35499998 BTC),
Jan 10 09:53:42 <topace>	just rounding the vwap
Jan 10 09:53:46 <topace>	!ticker havelock sdice
Jan 10 09:53:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.48382429 / 0.50000000 (387 shares, 187.24000000 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.44771974 / 0.62000000 (2958 shares, 1324.35499998 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.44771974 / 0.62000000 (2958 shares, 1324.35499998 BTC),
Jan 10 09:53:51 <topace>	thats better
Jan 10 09:54:00 <kakobrekla>	you can use the short handle
Jan 10 09:54:03 <kakobrekla>	fyi
Jan 10 09:54:21 <topace>	cool yea i saw that
Jan 10 09:54:28 <topace>	h, hl and havelock all work? thats great :)
Jan 10 09:54:43 <kakobrekla>	lets check whats with the stream
Jan 10 09:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 10 09:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00459207 / 0.00470294 / 0.0048 (294040 shares, 1,382.85 BTC), 7D: 0.00360414 / 0.004334 / 0.0048 (2233496 shares, 9,679.98 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00343756 / 0.0048 (14318024 shares, 49,219.12 BTC)
Jan 10 09:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	a ok, that's not so horrid
Jan 10 09:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m dice
Jan 10 09:58:22 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 09:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.d
Jan 10 09:58:28 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 09:58:38 <kakobrekla>	naw man
Jan 10 09:58:42 <kakobrekla>	m s.dice
Jan 10 09:58:46 <kakobrekla>	mp s.dice
Jan 10 09:58:48 <kakobrekla>	mpex s.dice
Jan 10 09:58:54 <kakobrekla>	thats what you got
Jan 10 09:58:58 <mircea_popescu>	i c
Jan 10 09:58:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 531 @ 0.004606 = 2.4458 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1881 @ 0.00460465 = 8.6613 BTC [-]
Jan 10 09:59:12 <mircea_popescu>	ppl trying to sell me domain names ;/
Jan 10 09:59:22 <kakobrekla>	hmm?
Jan 10 09:59:27 <jurov>	;;ticker glbse gsdpt
Jan 10 09:59:29 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Jan 10 09:59:44 <jurov>	!ticker glbse gsdpt
Jan 10 09:59:45 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 10:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker milk sour
Jan 10 10:01:30 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 10:01:34 <kakobrekla>	:DD
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Jan 10 10:08:25 <topace>	!ticker h him
Jan 10 10:08:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D:  / 0 /  (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 13.60000000 / 13.725 / 13.85000000 (2 shares, 27.45000000 BTC), 30D: 13.50000000 / 13.71 / 13.89000000 (4 shares, 54.84000000 BTC),
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Jan 10 10:09:19 <topace>	kakobrekla: im okay if you want to take out the 7D so its the same as mpex (just 1D and 30D) or maybe mpex should add 7D :p
Jan 10 10:09:43 <kakobrekla>	i added 7d yesterday
Jan 10 10:09:45 <kakobrekla>	for mpex
Jan 10 10:09:57 <topace>	ah okay
Jan 10 10:10:03 <Korbman>	very cool
Jan 10 10:10:08 <Korbman>	!ticker h kcim
Jan 10 10:10:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:KCIM] 1D: 0.90000000 / 0.94125 / 0.99900000 (12 shares, 11.29500000 BTC), 7D: 0.62500000 / 0.92744898 / 1.00000000 (98 shares, 90.89000000 BTC), 30D: 0.50000000 / 0.95215385 / 1.00000000 (195 shares, 185.67000000 BTC),
Jan 10 10:12:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.49 = 1.47 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 10:16:43 <jackmaninov>	buy buy buy
Jan 10 10:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
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Jan 10 10:17:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.98100, Best ask: 13.98101, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 14.08900, 24 hour volume: 34079.24822671, 24 hour low: 13.65999, 24 hour high: 14.08900, 24 hour vwap: 13.88504
Jan 10 10:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	o wow 14 ejh
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Jan 10 10:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133147.msg1444797#msg1444797
Jan 10 10:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	i still can;'t believe this idiot
Jan 10 10:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	possibly the most incompetent scammer since shakuru
Jan 10 10:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	or was it shakaru
Jan 10 10:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.004743 = 0.7115 BTC [+]
Jan 10 10:23:50 <topace>	"72th : initial PicoStock offering"
Jan 10 10:23:52 <topace>	lol
Jan 10 10:23:58 <topace>	72th ?
Jan 10 10:24:08 <kakobrekla>	72 jiggahash
Jan 10 10:24:57 <topace>	giggity giggity
Jan 10 10:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-]
Jan 10 10:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 685 @ 0.004743 = 3.249 BTC [+]
Jan 10 10:30:25 <kakobrekla>	bitinstant should get their shit together
Jan 10 10:35:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1045 @ 0.00473235 = 4.9453 BTC [-]
Jan 10 10:37:21 <EskimoBob>	topace: you actually misunderstood me and I was not clear enough
Jan 10 10:38:01 <topace>	EskimoBob: say what?
Jan 10 10:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla what they do now !?
Jan 10 10:38:19 <EskimoBob>	by "What if they have bots playing with coin from the IPO to make it look good.... " - I was talking about the sdice game and not trading
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Jan 10 10:38:47 <topace>	oh
Jan 10 10:38:48 <topace>	i see
Jan 10 10:38:55 <topace>	yes i misunderstood you, sorry :p
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Jan 10 10:39:00 <EskimoBob>	np
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Jan 10 10:39:54 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu, so i flip some money 2 days ago
Jan 10 10:40:01 <kakobrekla>	first it gives me an error
Jan 10 10:40:14 <kakobrekla>	the second try was 'successful'
Jan 10 10:40:19 <kakobrekla>	yet the result was 'error'
Jan 10 10:40:23 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 10 10:40:26 <kakobrekla>	aka ate my code
Jan 10 10:40:30 <kakobrekla>	didnt giev money
Jan 10 10:40:42 <mircea_popescu>	teh suck
Jan 10 10:40:43 <kakobrekla>	i needed to wait over 24hrs
Jan 10 10:40:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1205 @ 0.00473235 = 5.7025 BTC [-]
Jan 10 10:40:50 <kakobrekla>	to get a response and a fix
Jan 10 10:40:52 <kakobrekla>	now
Jan 10 10:40:58 <kakobrekla>	the next day i try the same
Jan 10 10:41:01 <kakobrekla>	that was yesterday
Jan 10 10:41:06 <kakobrekla>	same fuckin shit happens.
Jan 10 10:41:10 <kakobrekla>	:\
Jan 10 10:41:17 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 10 10:41:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.05001, Best ask: 14.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 14.05000, 24 hour volume: 34922.38151352, 24 hour low: 13.65999, 24 hour high: 14.10000, 24 hour vwap: 13.89273
Jan 10 10:41:21 <Bugpowder>	booya
Jan 10 10:41:33 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/16/bitcoin-above-14-17/
Jan 10 10:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	not yet over .17 tho
Jan 10 10:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	but certainly getting there
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Jan 10 10:46:58 <Sertuerner>	Any of you guys invested some in ESECURITYSABTC on btct.co?
Jan 10 10:47:43 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Jan 10 10:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	what is it ?
Jan 10 10:49:23 <Sertuerner>	A Bond, pays 1.4% weekly, funds the purchase of servers of the company issuing it
Jan 10 10:49:51 <Sertuerner>	Dividends are 30% of the server profit, the company is legit and the guy issuing it is indeed part of the company
Jan 10 10:50:01 <Sertuerner>	But 1.4% seems still a bit too good to be true
Jan 10 10:50:17 <Bugpowder>	it is TGTBT
Jan 10 10:50:33 <Sertuerner>	https://btct.co/security/ESECURITYSABTC
Jan 10 10:50:34 <Bugpowder>	what is the revenue from?
Jan 10 10:50:49 <kakobrekla>	TGT are some cool wallets
Jan 10 10:50:54 <Sertuerner>	"Dividends Terms: 30% of the severs income in USD will be distribued monthly. 70%
Jan 10 10:50:54 <Sertuerner>	are held by the issuer for maintenance, bandwitch cost, company cost and some
Jan 10 10:50:55 <Sertuerner>	profits."
Jan 10 10:51:00 <jurov>	DDoS "protection", perhaps?
Jan 10 10:51:34 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 10 10:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	wait.
Jan 10 10:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	dividends and coupon ?
Jan 10 10:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00460466 = 23.0233 BTC [-]
Jan 10 10:52:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 19 @ 0.00460465 = 0.0875 BTC [-]
Jan 10 10:52:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1081 @ 0.00460282 = 4.9756 BTC [-]
Jan 10 10:52:26 <Bugpowder>	Well, BitVPS has had months of a 4% / mo div
Jan 10 10:52:39 <Sertuerner>	What happened to it?
Jan 10 10:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	yes but i mean, paus 1.4% weekly. end of story. what dividends ?
Jan 10 10:53:00 <jcpham>	seems legit
Jan 10 10:53:27 <Sertuerner>	So you guys figure it leans more on the legit side with ESECURITYSABTC?
Jan 10 10:53:45 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 10 10:53:54 <Bugpowder>	but its not completly impossible
Jan 10 10:53:58 <jcpham>	ian<insert anything here>
Jan 10 10:54:52 <jcpham>	http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/
Jan 10 10:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much any btc bond outside of mpoe's are nonsense.
Jan 10 10:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	in pure economic terms,
Jan 10 10:55:03 <jurov>	Sertuerner, i'd ask for some endorsements from existing customers, for a start
Jan 10 10:55:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.014 ** 52
Jan 10 10:55:07 <gribble>	2.06050493901
Jan 10 10:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	who the fark pays 100% apr
Jan 10 10:55:21 <mircea_popescu>	leaving aside the problem of btc price volatility.
Jan 10 10:55:24 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 10 10:55:28 <Bugpowder>	on a fixed schedule
Jan 10 10:55:39 <jcpham>	talk about volatile
Jan 10 10:55:45 <Bugpowder>	if you have a floating rate based on profits, and you have an insane month, seems possible
Jan 10 10:55:49 <jcpham>	it was less than $14 yesterday
Jan 10 10:55:54 <jcpham>	jeez
Jan 10 10:55:58 <Sertuerner>	Well, the bond isn't nearly as advertised as the last ponzies I saw
Jan 10 10:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	in fairness, the only other bond that was a bond in btc was yochdog
Jan 10 10:56:12 <mircea_popescu>	he's cursing his fate atm,
Jan 10 10:56:14 <Bugpowder>	;calc 14.10/13.75
Jan 10 10:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	and it was an experiment anyway. it failed.
Jan 10 10:56:18 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 14.10/13.75
Jan 10 10:56:19 <gribble>	1.02545454545
Jan 10 10:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1259 @ 0.00460282 = 5.795 BTC [-]
Jan 10 10:56:30 <Bugpowder>	not that volatile
Jan 10 10:56:44 <Bugpowder>	SP500 can move that much in a session
Jan 10 10:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder 1 year term ?
Jan 10 10:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	or 30 year ?
Jan 10 10:57:12 <Bugpowder>	;;google NOK
Jan 10 10:57:12 <gribble>	NOK: Summary for Nokia Corporation Sponsored Ame- Yahoo ...: <http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=NOK>; Nokia Corporation (ADR): NYSE:NOK quotes & news - Google ...: <http://www.google.com/finance?cid=657729>; NOK - Nokia Oyj Stock quote - CNNMoney.com: <http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=NOK>
Jan 10 10:57:22 <Bugpowder>	up 20% today
Jan 10 10:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	dude.
Jan 10 10:57:33 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck floats bonds on stock
Jan 10 10:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	"this T bill pays 180% face value in Google Stock"
Jan 10 10:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	what's this, wet dreams inc ?
Jan 10 10:58:22 <Bugpowder>	I don't understand it, and I don't want to try
Jan 10 10:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00460282 = 1.3808 BTC [-]
Jan 10 10:58:35 <Bugpowder>	If it doesn't make sense to mp, I'm not interested.
Jan 10 10:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 10 10:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	at this rate im getting sued.
Jan 10 11:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	wait. waitwait. you're  actually long nokia ?!
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Jan 10 11:01:31 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 10 11:01:35 <Bugpowder>	I have some S
Jan 10 11:01:44 <Bugpowder>	might move it to RIM
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Jan 10 11:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	oddly i don't know anyone who owns (or admits to owning) nok
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Jan 10 11:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 660 @ 0.00460282 = 3.0379 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:07:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 440 @ 0.00460245 = 2.0251 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00460057 = 2.3003 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:07:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.004599 = 4.599 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00459856 = 2.7591 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 11:08:03 <Sertuerner>	Okay, I'll run this 1.4%/w bond by the board later today, let's see if they can find something fishy
Jan 10 11:09:31 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 10 11:09:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.07002, Best ask: 14.09000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01998, Last trade: 14.09000, 24 hour volume: 35929.09864850, 24 hour low: 13.66000, 24 hour high: 14.15000, 24 hour vwap: 13.90986
Jan 10 11:10:11 <Korbman>	happy to see we're breaking the $14 mark...haven't done that in a while
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Jan 10 11:13:26 <Bugpowder>	well if it stays over it for more than a few hours, It will be ther first time since Aug 2011.
Jan 10 11:14:06 <mircea_popescu>	for srs.
Jan 10 11:14:33 <jcpham>	has it been since August 2011?
Jan 10 11:14:43 <jcpham>	i thought we peaked around 15 again after pirate left
Jan 10 11:14:49 <Bugpowder>	only for a few hours
Jan 10 11:15:02 <jcpham>	so i'm not crazy
Jan 10 11:15:10 <jcpham>	hours are like days to me sometimes
Jan 10 11:15:23 <Bugpowder>	actually we peaked over 15 right BEFORE pirate left
Jan 10 11:15:47 <jcpham>	before, after. MNW/ ponzi boat
Jan 10 11:15:48 <Bugpowder>	the crash happened about 5 minutes after the BST closing forum post I
Jan 10 11:15:51 <jcpham>	there was a lot going on
Jan 10 11:16:14 <Bugpowder>	I wus watching, catching the falling knife
Jan 10 11:16:16 <Bugpowder>	ow
Jan 10 11:18:38 <Korbman>	indeed
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Jan 10 11:26:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00463688 = 8.3464 BTC [+]
Jan 10 11:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00470236 = 0.9405 BTC [+]
Jan 10 11:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2599 @ 0.00459856 = 11.9517 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00459702 = 8.2746 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 369 @ 0.00459654 = 1.6961 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2854 @ 0.00459401 = 13.1113 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.0045931 = 3.6745 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00459208 = 1.148 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1092 @ 0.00459207 = 5.0145 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5121 @ 0.00458976 = 23.5042 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1854 @ 0.00458909 = 8.5082 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00458857 = 5.7357 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2088 @ 0.00458358 = 9.5705 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00458307 = 9.8536 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00457981 = 4.8088 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2453 @ 0.00457901 = 11.2323 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00457809 = 7.5538 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1981 @ 0.00457559 = 9.0642 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00457454 = 4.3458 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00457426 = 6.8614 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00457422 = 9.8346 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00457332 = 7.546 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1298 @ 0.00457248 = 5.9351 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00457145 = 8.6858 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1384 @ 0.00457112 = 6.3264 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00457072 = 5.7134 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1976 @ 0.00457045 = 9.0312 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1381 @ 0.0045687 = 6.3094 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:28:28 <mircea_popescu>	o hey what happened here
Jan 10 11:28:48 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway : it'd seem bitbet just paid its first referral comissions!
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Jan 10 11:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00473711 = 5.9214 BTC [+]
Jan 10 11:31:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1413 @ 0.004743 = 6.7019 BTC [+]
Jan 10 11:32:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 19 @ 0.00464527 = 0.0883 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:34:43 <Bugpowder>	cut off the betting
Jan 10 11:34:50 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 10 11:34:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.15068, Best ask: 14.17018, Bid-ask spread: 0.01950, Last trade: 14.17017, 24 hour volume: 37546.03361238, 24 hour low: 13.69100, 24 hour high: 14.17018, 24 hour vwap: 13.92522
Jan 10 11:35:14 <kakobrekla>	cuttin
Jan 10 11:35:22 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 10 11:35:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.15000, Best ask: 14.18900, Bid-ask spread: 0.03900, Last trade: 14.18900, 24 hour volume: 37580.20459013, 24 hour low: 13.69100, 24 hour high: 14.18900, 24 hour vwap: 13.92545
Jan 10 11:37:22 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 10 11:37:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.10000, Best ask: 14.18000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 14.19900, 24 hour volume: 37912.02384168, 24 hour low: 13.69100, 24 hour high: 14.19900, 24 hour vwap: 13.92810
Jan 10 11:37:33 <Bugpowder>	LET IT RIDE
Jan 10 11:37:43 <kakobrekla>	no new bets are accepted
Jan 10 11:37:48 <kakobrekla>	it will take a min to update
Jan 10 11:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.004743 = 5.6916 BTC [+]
Jan 10 11:41:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2103 @ 0.00464527 = 9.769 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:43:45 <kakobrekla>	i need to improve this procedure
Jan 10 11:43:55 <jurov>	btw, i placed hockey bet yest, can't find it, it was not approved
Jan 10 11:44:05 <jurov>	dunno why
Jan 10 11:44:18 <kakobrekla>	KHL - HC Slovan Bratislava will beat HC Lev Praha
Jan 10 11:44:19 <kakobrekla>	this?
Jan 10 11:44:34 <jurov>	yea
Jan 10 11:44:34 <kakobrekla>	i dunno, mp does this approving thingy
Jan 10 11:44:43 <kakobrekla>	i try to stay out of it :)
Jan 10 11:45:03 <kakobrekla>	ping him
Jan 10 11:46:19 <Bugpowder>	man
Jan 10 11:46:24 <Bugpowder>	not a lot of resistance
Jan 10 11:46:34 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Jan 10 11:46:59 <Bugpowder>	$14.42 seems likely now
Jan 10 11:47:47 <jurov>	just yest i sold a chunk on bitstamp... for $13.50 :/
Jan 10 11:47:57 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 10 11:47:59 <kakobrekla>	i sell all the time
Jan 10 11:48:00 <Bugpowder>	sux
Jan 10 11:48:15 <Bugpowder>	If I had >10,000 coins I would sell some
Jan 10 11:48:19 <Bugpowder>	but I don't
Jan 10 11:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	whaio .18 eh ?
Jan 10 11:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1084 @ 0.004743 = 5.1414 BTC [+]
Jan 10 11:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	selling is overrated.
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Jan 10 11:53:35 <Bugpowder>	Yeah
Jan 10 11:53:41 <Bugpowder>	I sold it all once
Jan 10 11:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00464528 = 5.3421 BTC [-]
Jan 10 11:53:48 <Bugpowder>	then I bought it back the next day
Jan 10 11:53:52 <Bugpowder>	never again
Jan 10 11:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 10 11:54:18 <mircea_popescu>	i never sold any yet.
Jan 10 11:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	tho maybe i will.
Jan 10 11:54:33 <Bugpowder>	Unless I somehow acquire >$200,000 worth of coins, then I will take a little off the table
Jan 10 11:54:40 <kakobrekla>	well i been living from selling coin for over a year now
Jan 10 11:54:51 <Bugpowder>	but I don't want to pay cap gains on it
Jan 10 11:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	jeez i couldn't fucking eat
Jan 10 11:55:15 <Bugpowder>	so prefer keeping it in coin
Jan 10 11:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	i'd keep thinking this bread is bitcoin and starve.
Jan 10 11:55:28 <Bugpowder>	LOL
Jan 10 11:56:05 <kakobrekla>	its not ideal yea
Jan 10 11:56:13 <kakobrekla>	but it is what it is
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Jan 10 12:01:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1088 @ 0.00471738 = 5.1325 BTC [+]
Jan 10 12:01:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00466444 = 6.7634 BTC [-]
Jan 10 12:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1496 @ 0.00464528 = 6.9493 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 12:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Jan 10 12:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 10 12:08:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.23227, Best ask: 14.26703, Bid-ask spread: 0.03476, Last trade: 14.26703, 24 hour volume: 38839.82278349, 24 hour low: 13.70001, 24 hour high: 14.28800, 24 hour vwap: 13.93873
Jan 10 12:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	breakout fo sho
Jan 10 12:09:18 <jurov>	apparently a blip, someone just wanted to buy 4k in one go
Jan 10 12:10:03 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, and can you say something about the disapproved (or still pending) bet?
Jan 10 12:10:14 <jurov>	KHL - HC Slovan Bratislava will beat HC Lev Praha
Jan 10 12:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	jurov aaapproved.
Jan 10 12:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5346 @ 0.00065196 = 3.4854 BTC [+]
Jan 10 12:11:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21950 @ 0.00065219 = 14.3156 BTC [+]
Jan 10 12:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3333 @ 0.00065629 = 2.1874 BTC [+]
Jan 10 12:11:47 <jurov>	thx! will try to stir up #bitcoin.cz nao
Jan 10 12:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	>D
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Jan 10 12:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062928 = 0.6293 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 12:17:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i trade on mpex while i drive
Jan 10 12:17:56 <thestringpuller>	mpex has safety concerns
Jan 10 12:17:58 <thestringpuller>	jk
Jan 10 12:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	what, you have an acct ?
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Jan 10 12:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1096 @ 0.00465974 = 5.1071 BTC [+]
Jan 10 12:23:47 <Korbman>	!help
Jan 10 12:23:47 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 10 12:23:48 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
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Jan 10 12:29:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 165 @ 0.00465974 = 0.7689 BTC [+]
Jan 10 12:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Jan 10 12:37:55 <kakobrekla>	o, he left.
Jan 10 12:38:02 <kakobrekla>	sure hope he wakes up before midnight
Jan 10 12:44:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00063493 = 3.3651 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 12:47:06 <kakobrekla>	lol mtgox
Jan 10 12:47:19 <kakobrekla>	its 10th of jan
Jan 10 12:47:20 <kakobrekla>	We continue to check the status and we will keep you updated and we apologize for the inconvenience that this may have caused.
Jan 10 12:47:27 <kakobrekla>	their api documentation is still missing
Jan 10 12:47:32 <kakobrekla>	rofllolz
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Jan 10 12:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 12:48:08 <kakobrekla>	marcus keeps sending me im sorry msg every 3 days or so
Jan 10 12:48:31 <kakobrekla>	about 6th email by now
Jan 10 12:48:55 <kakobrekla>	sadly hilarious
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Jan 10 12:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00469031 = 8.4426 BTC [+]
Jan 10 12:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 237 @ 0.00466586 = 1.1058 BTC [-]
Jan 10 12:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 413 @ 0.00465153 = 1.9211 BTC [-]
Jan 10 12:58:16 <mod6>	how's it goin' -assets
Jan 10 13:01:21 <kakobrekla>	http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7182/img1612e.jpg
Jan 10 13:01:22 <kakobrekla>	lulz
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Jan 10 13:02:22 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Jan 10 13:02:22 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades
Jan 10 13:02:22 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 12:40:09 2012
Jan 10 13:02:35 <mod6>	kakobrekla: haha nice
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Jan 10 13:06:06 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ERE4uiufqE
Jan 10 13:06:06 <kakobrekla>	turn on subtitles
Jan 10 13:06:08 <kakobrekla>	lol^^
Jan 10 13:06:13 <kakobrekla>	this one is preety good as well
Jan 10 13:06:33 <kakobrekla>	"i will mine 1000btc and buy my kidney back"
Jan 10 13:11:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00469053 = 6.0977 BTC [+]
Jan 10 13:11:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00469587 = 6.1046 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 13:14:10 <mod6>	hahaha
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Jan 10 13:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 442 @ 0.0046516 = 2.056 BTC [-]
Jan 10 13:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 837 @ 0.00465153 = 3.8933 BTC [-]
Jan 10 13:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2354 @ 0.00464528 = 10.935 BTC [-]
Jan 10 13:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 778 @ 0.00464527 = 3.614 BTC [-]
Jan 10 13:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.00462834 = 14.3479 BTC [-]
Jan 10 13:16:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00461162 = 4.6116 BTC [-]
Jan 10 13:16:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 689 @ 0.00459764 = 3.1678 BTC [-]
Jan 10 13:21:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6222 @ 0.00062927 = 3.9153 BTC [-]
Jan 10 13:22:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5028 @ 0.00062793 = 3.1572 BTC [-]
Jan 10 13:22:28 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 10 13:22:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.23001, Best ask: 14.28600, Bid-ask spread: 0.05599, Last trade: 14.28600, 24 hour volume: 41098.10404556, 24 hour low: 13.72000, 24 hour high: 14.32000, 24 hour vwap: 13.98066
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Jan 10 13:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2750 @ 0.00469587 = 12.9136 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 13:29:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00459764 = 1.3793 BTC [-]
Jan 10 13:34:52 <Guest68177>	smickles: you around?
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Jan 10 13:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2001 @ 0.00459992 = 9.2044 BTC [+]
Jan 10 13:41:16 <thestringpuller>	!ticker O.BTCUSD.P140
Jan 10 13:41:16 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 10 13:41:30 <thestringpuller>	!ticker MPEX O.BTCUSD.P140
Jan 10 13:41:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1479 @ 0.00459992 = 6.8033 BTC [+]
Jan 10 13:41:33 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 13:41:43 <thestringpuller>	!ticker O.BTCUSD.P140
Jan 10 13:41:44 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 10 13:41:45 <mod6>	!ticker mpex O.BTCUSD.P140T
Jan 10 13:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.03838722 / 0.13087482 / 0.168 (105 shares, 13.74 BTC), 30D: 0.03838722 / 0.13735272 / 0.18543554 (7274 shares, 999.10 BTC)
Jan 10 13:41:47 <kakobrekla>	now that was unexpected
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Jan 10 13:42:00 <thestringpuller>	why dont you make changelogs
Jan 10 13:42:02 <thestringpuller>	huh
Jan 10 13:42:08 <kakobrekla>	!help
Jan 10 13:42:08 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 10 13:42:09 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 10 13:42:14 <thestringpuller>	:P
Jan 10 13:42:18 <kakobrekla>	you can use m, mp, mpex
Jan 10 13:42:26 <kakobrekla>	or h, hl, have, havelock
Jan 10 13:42:37 <kakobrekla>	or bt, btc, btctc
Jan 10 13:42:41 <kakobrekla>	etc
Jan 10 13:42:59 <jurov>	!ticker btc milk
Jan 10 13:43:01 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
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Jan 10 13:43:30 <jurov>	what if other exchange comes with btc in the name?
Jan 10 13:43:39 <kakobrekla>	THEN WE FIX WHEN IT HAPPENS
Jan 10 13:43:45 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C140
Jan 10 13:43:47 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 13:43:58 <thestringpuller>	!ticker mpex O.BTCUSD.C140
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Jan 10 13:44:00 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 13:44:32 <jurov>	!ticker mpex O.BTCUSD.C140T
Jan 10 13:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0164898 / 0.09249472 / 0.113 (10 shares, 0.92 BTC), 30D: 0.01359389 / 0.03076661 / 0.19999999 (1136 shares, 34.95 BTC)
Jan 10 13:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00459992 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Jan 10 13:46:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 670 @ 0.00459992 = 3.0819 BTC [+]
Jan 10 13:46:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 930 @ 0.00469587 = 4.3672 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 13:49:23 <mod6>	thestringpuller: you need to put in the options expiry on the end, i think that's all your missin there.
Jan 10 13:49:38 <mod6>	either T/N
Jan 10 13:51:25 <thestringpuller>	!ticker mpex O.BTCUSD.C140T
Jan 10 13:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0164898 / 0.09249472 / 0.113 (10 shares, 0.92 BTC), 30D: 0.01359389 / 0.03076661 / 0.19999999 (1136 shares, 34.95 BTC)
Jan 10 13:51:45 <thestringpuller>	!ticker mpex O.BTCUSD.C130T
Jan 10 13:51:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.06099735 / 0.19082091 / 0.19427821 (362 shares, 69.08 BTC), 30D: 0.03464639 / 0.12726081 / 0.2479297 (6769 shares, 861.43 BTC)
Jan 10 13:52:10 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (14-13)/14
Jan 10 13:52:10 <gribble>	0.0714285714286
Jan 10 13:52:22 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (14.50-13)/14.50
Jan 10 13:52:22 <gribble>	0.103448275862
Jan 10 13:52:36 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (15.0-13)/15.0
Jan 10 13:52:36 <gribble>	0.133333333333
Jan 10 13:54:56 <thestringpuller>	i am working on charts
Jan 10 13:55:53 <mod6>	:]
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Jan 10 14:00:37 <jurov>	http://i.imgur.com/q9yMM.jpg
Jan 10 14:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1094 @ 0.00459764 = 5.0298 BTC [-]
Jan 10 14:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 606 @ 0.00458668 = 2.7795 BTC [-]
Jan 10 14:01:58 <mod6>	jurov: that's classic
Jan 10 14:02:13 <mod6>	what's with people spelling "lose" as "loose" these days anyway?
Jan 10 14:03:25 <jurov>	just a looose grammar
Jan 10 14:03:32 <mod6>	;)
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Jan 10 14:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 384 @ 0.00469587 = 1.8032 BTC [+]
Jan 10 14:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1507 @ 0.00470056 = 7.0837 BTC [+]
Jan 10 14:10:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1291 @ 0.00472757 = 6.1033 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 14:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1209 @ 0.00472757 = 5.7156 BTC [+]
Jan 10 14:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1091 @ 0.00472933 = 5.1597 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 14:16:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 509 @ 0.00472933 = 2.4072 BTC [+]
Jan 10 14:16:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 291 @ 0.004743 = 1.3802 BTC [+]
Jan 10 14:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.48 = 3.84 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 14:29:31 <thestringpuller>	mod6 lemme be bitotter architect until you are out of slave mode
Jan 10 14:31:36 <mod6>	I'm probably going to have a bunch of time to work on it this weekend.  Let's poke around with some stuff then.
Jan 10 14:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550 @ 0.004743 = 12.0947 BTC [+]
Jan 10 14:34:25 <mod6>	I'll def. be working on it most of Saturday, and on through the night into sunday.
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Jan 10 14:34:57 <mod6>	Thanks for the offer to help!  We need this tool to be finished.
Jan 10 14:35:21 <mod6>	Just need to get that first alpha done.  Then we can work on some revisions for the beta.
Jan 10 14:37:36 <dub>	"blocks" : 157051,
Jan 10 14:37:41 *	dub sighs
Jan 10 14:37:50 <dub>	gonna miss out on bitbet
Jan 10 14:37:52 <mod6>	hurry up and wait about 4 more days
Jan 10 14:38:20 <kakobrekla>	make a bet and ill send it now dub, you can return later
Jan 10 14:38:29 <mod6>	i think he's talking about the IPO
Jan 10 14:38:33 <kakobrekla>	ah
Jan 10 14:38:35 <dub>	yer that
Jan 10 14:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00468673 = 3.2807 BTC [-]
Jan 10 14:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00462594 = 6.7076 BTC [-]
Jan 10 14:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.0045995 = 7.5892 BTC [-]
Jan 10 14:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1244 @ 0.00458668 = 5.7058 BTC [-]
Jan 10 14:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1270 @ 0.0045862 = 5.8245 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 14:39:35 <dub>	;;ticker
Jan 10 14:39:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.12124, Best ask: 14.21799, Bid-ask spread: 0.09675, Last trade: 14.12124, 24 hour volume: 44579.00143054, 24 hour low: 13.72000, 24 hour high: 14.32000, 24 hour vwap: 14.01026
Jan 10 14:39:49 <dub>	guess I could just buy some but fuck
Jan 10 14:40:16 <mod6>	maybe just do a loan for CxBTC?
Jan 10 14:41:00 <jurov>	nah. i guess bbet is ripe for immediate shorting instead
Jan 10 14:41:11 <mod6>	haha. werd.
Jan 10 14:41:30 <lyspooner>	hello to all
Jan 10 14:41:43 <Bugpowder>	;;ident lyspooner
Jan 10 14:41:44 <gribble>	Nick 'lyspooner', with hostmask 'lyspooner!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/mpkomara', is not identified.
Jan 10 14:42:00 <lyspooner>	what is the greatest asset in bitcoinland since dec 20th
Jan 10 14:42:10 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE
Jan 10 14:42:11 <Bugpowder>	duh
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Jan 10 14:42:27 <lyspooner>	greatest *new* asset
Jan 10 14:42:43 <Bugpowder>	a ponzi
Jan 10 14:43:17 <Bugpowder>	shorted O.BTCUSD.P140Ts
Jan 10 14:44:13 <Bugpowder>	???????
Jan 10 14:44:24 <lyspooner>	that's not new
Jan 10 14:44:35 <lyspooner>	well i guess the jan 14 puts are new
Jan 10 14:44:38 <lyspooner>	so you win
Jan 10 14:44:48 <Bugpowder>	ok what were you thinking of
Jan 10 14:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00460946 = 9.9103 BTC [+]
Jan 10 14:45:10 <lyspooner>	i don't know, i haven't looked at bitcoin in a month
Jan 10 14:45:35 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 10 14:45:36 <Bugpowder>	hahah
Jan 10 14:45:50 <Bugpowder>	Well.
Jan 10 14:45:51 <thestringpuller>	short S.DICE
Jan 10 14:45:52 <Bugpowder>	SDICE IPO sold out
Jan 10 14:46:03 <Bugpowder>	which was awesome
Jan 10 14:46:11 <thestringpuller>	now price needs stabilize so short ops will arise
Jan 10 14:46:12 <Bugpowder>	4.1MM shares in 1 day
Jan 10 14:46:17 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 10 14:46:27 <thestringpuller>	lots of people gambling
Jan 10 14:46:34 <thestringpuller>	or courtesy of the whale
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Jan 10 14:47:57 <topace>	havelock owns 3% of the 10% of SDICE
Jan 10 14:48:12 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 10 14:48:15 <Bugpowder>	way
Jan 10 14:48:17 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 10 14:48:20 <Bugpowder>	0.3% total
Jan 10 14:48:52 <topace>	yea
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Jan 10 14:48:57 <topace>	S.DICE x 302`150
Jan 10 14:50:47 <Bugpowder>	I would post my holdings
Jan 10 14:50:52 <Bugpowder>	but...
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Jan 10 14:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 130 @ 0.0045862 = 0.5962 BTC [-]
Jan 10 14:52:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00457435 = 10.9784 BTC [-]
Jan 10 14:52:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 526 @ 0.0045687 = 2.4031 BTC [-]
Jan 10 14:54:49 <jurov>	lyspooner, also bitvps got sold (dunno when they update mpex prospect)
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Jan 10 14:57:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.004743 = 4.2687 BTC [+]
Jan 10 14:59:48 <kakobrekla>	lolwat http://www.thebitcointrader.com/2013/01/finally-bitcoinica-replacement.html
Jan 10 15:00:22 <Namworld>	When we get that sorted out jurov.
Jan 10 15:02:10 <Bugpowder>	I am proud to be the first post on that story
Jan 10 15:03:14 <jurov>	bugpowder, about the name kraken? congrats
Jan 10 15:03:16 <dub>	http://imgur.com/gallery/a35PE
Jan 10 15:04:43 *	jurov finally announces launch of mybitcoin replacement
Jan 10 15:04:58 <kakobrekla>	mybuttcoin?
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Jan 10 15:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 716 @ 0.004743 = 3.396 BTC [+]
Jan 10 15:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 334 @ 0.00474435 = 1.5846 BTC [+]
Jan 10 15:06:54 <dub>	meanwhile. libertarians http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/tactical-response-ceo-issues-threat-over-gun-control
Jan 10 15:07:15 <dub>	moar liek killertarians
Jan 10 15:13:17 <Bugpowder>	man this is a great mix https://soundcloud.com/everybodywantstobethedj/nicolas-jaar-essential-mix-05
Jan 10 15:16:24 <kakobrekla>	lets give it a listen, space is only noise is a nice album
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Jan 10 15:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 821 @ 0.00471996 = 3.8751 BTC [-]
Jan 10 15:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.48 = 3.84 BTC [-]
Jan 10 15:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 816 @ 0.00459896 = 3.7528 BTC [-]
Jan 10 15:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1243 @ 0.0045687 = 5.6789 BTC [-]
Jan 10 15:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00456765 = 1.3703 BTC [-]
Jan 10 15:27:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 241 @ 0.00456689 = 1.1006 BTC [-]
Jan 10 15:29:22 <Bugpowder>	heh... this is a long classical interlude
Jan 10 15:30:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 879 @ 0.00471996 = 4.1488 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 15:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.48 = 2.88 BTC [-]
Jan 10 15:31:35 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 10 15:31:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.12580, Best ask: 14.22893, Bid-ask spread: 0.10313, Last trade: 14.22893, 24 hour volume: 44904.10759276, 24 hour low: 13.72000, 24 hour high: 14.32000, 24 hour vwap: 14.02109
Jan 10 15:31:40 <Bugpowder>	dumping
Jan 10 15:31:50 <dub>	panic plox
Jan 10 15:32:05 <Bugpowder>	damn
Jan 10 15:32:12 <dub>	attaboys
Jan 10 15:32:13 <Bugpowder>	wish someone had bot my calls
Jan 10 15:32:14 <dub>	[15:31] <bitcoinRT> Jan10 20:31:19 mtgox  x300 5,000.0000 @    13.98784613 USD
Jan 10 15:32:51 <Bugpowder>	boing
Jan 10 15:33:29 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 10 15:33:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.13000, Best ask: 14.22888, Bid-ask spread: 0.09888, Last trade: 14.23000, 24 hour volume: 49979.27657841, 24 hour low: 13.72000, 24 hour high: 14.32000, 24 hour vwap: 14.01831
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Jan 10 15:36:21 <kakobrekla>	!ticker bt cognitive
Jan 10 15:36:23 <assbot>	[BTCT:COGNITIVE] 1D: 0.49 / 0.496 / 0.497 (7 shares, 3.5 BTC),  7D: na / 0.49 / na (200 shares, 98.9 BTC)
Jan 10 15:36:32 <kakobrekla>	bah
Jan 10 15:37:10 <Bugpowder>	nice
Jan 10 15:37:12 <Bugpowder>	moar
Jan 10 15:37:17 <kakobrekla>	a nevermind is alright
Jan 10 15:37:32 <Namworld>	There's BTCT.co now?
Jan 10 15:38:54 <kakobrekla>	that site has been for a while now
Jan 10 15:39:12 <Bugpowder>	do the trades show up ?
Jan 10 15:39:22 <kakobrekla>	waiting for burnside to post
Jan 10 15:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 944 @ 0.00473179 = 4.4668 BTC [+]
Jan 10 15:39:50 <kakobrekla>	perhaps tonight?
Jan 10 15:40:25 <kakobrekla>	now ill go add some custom weight options on bb
Jan 10 15:42:30 <jurov>	;;later tell mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/ymowZ.png
Jan 10 15:42:30 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 10 15:43:43 <jcpham>	;;calc 16261.52*[ticker --last]
Jan 10 15:43:43 <gribble>	229271.17048
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Jan 10 15:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3272 @ 0.00062793 = 2.0546 BTC [-]
Jan 10 15:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4178 @ 0.00062769 = 2.6225 BTC [-]
Jan 10 15:50:58 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 10 15:50:58 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 28 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ticker
Jan 10 15:51:26 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell smickles i have code for you
Jan 10 15:51:26 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 10 16:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 901 @ 0.00474435 = 4.2747 BTC [+]
Jan 10 16:06:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2141 @ 0.00473179 = 10.1308 BTC [-]
Jan 10 16:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00473179 = 3.3123 BTC [-]
Jan 10 16:10:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1348 @ 0.00473179 = 6.3785 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 16:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 502 @ 0.00471064 = 2.3647 BTC [-]
Jan 10 16:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1693 @ 0.00456864 = 7.7347 BTC [-]
Jan 10 16:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1457 @ 0.00456689 = 6.654 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 16:17:41 <Bugpowder>	whale came back
Jan 10 16:17:48 <Bugpowder>	for a little while at least
Jan 10 16:17:59 <Bugpowder>	http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=100&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Jan 10 16:19:14 <Bugpowder>	He lost 2000BTC and quit
Jan 10 16:19:29 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/1EP4rM8hLZCRSWPNZDWJp9zdvmoWYkkgbQ
Jan 10 16:20:23 <Namworld>	The house always win
Jan 10 16:20:37 <Namworld>	Even when provably fair and low edge.
Jan 10 16:21:34 <jurov>	good slogan "The first provably fair casino!"
Jan 10 16:22:18 <jurov>	With 1st class seats for whalespotters!
Jan 10 16:26:58 <error3477>	good for my dividend ;)
Jan 10 16:27:07 <topace>	indeed
Jan 10 16:27:16 <topace>	keep those losses coming
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Jan 10 16:28:25 <Bugpowder>	errr
Jan 10 16:28:38 <Bugpowder>	sign error :-P
Jan 10 16:31:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00456689 = 9.1338 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 16:41:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1384 @ 0.00456689 = 6.3206 BTC [-]
Jan 10 16:42:01 <thestringpuller>	s.dice primed for buying
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Jan 10 16:50:03 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 10 16:50:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.12000, Best ask: 14.19920, Bid-ask spread: 0.07920, Last trade: 14.19920, 24 hour volume: 50759.81129991, 24 hour low: 13.72000, 24 hour high: 14.32000, 24 hour vwap: 14.02770
Jan 10 16:50:20 <Bugpowder>	So the S.BBET IPO goes off in 2 hours, right?
Jan 10 16:51:11 <kakobrekla>	give or take an hour or two
Jan 10 16:51:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.0045826 = 8.9361 BTC [+]
Jan 10 16:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 259 @ 0.00460448 = 1.1926 BTC [+]
Jan 10 16:51:34 <Bugpowder>	are you going to give a heads up on the channel first?
Jan 10 16:51:50 <kakobrekla>	umm seriously i have no idea if its gmt midnight
Jan 10 16:52:00 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 10 16:52:01 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 10 16:52:02 <Bugpowder>	it is
Jan 10 16:52:09 <kakobrekla>	i think mp is already awake
Jan 10 16:52:12 <Bugpowder>	I am GMT -5
Jan 10 16:52:12 <kakobrekla>	just not on irc
Jan 10 16:52:23 <kakobrekla>	or else its ghost in the shell
Jan 10 16:52:25 <Bugpowder>	no its 9:52 GMT now
Jan 10 16:52:55 <Bugpowder>	How long before the 14.17 bet pays out?
Jan 10 16:52:57 <kakobrekla>	yep
Jan 10 16:53:02 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 10 16:53:31 <kakobrekla>	when mp returns i guess
Jan 10 16:53:39 <Bugpowder>	ok its manual
Jan 10 16:53:42 <Bugpowder>	?
Jan 10 16:53:45 <kakobrekla>	yup
Jan 10 16:53:49 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Jan 10 16:54:01 <kakobrekla>	i generate him a sendmany string automagically
Jan 10 16:54:03 <kakobrekla>	thats that
Jan 10 16:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 530 @ 0.00463623 = 2.4572 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 16:54:52 <kakobrekla>	it would have gone earlier
Jan 10 16:55:02 <kakobrekla>	but my double spend detection tripped
Jan 10 16:55:05 <kakobrekla>	and i halted it
Jan 10 16:55:10 <kakobrekla>	but it was a false alarm
Jan 10 16:55:26 <kakobrekla>	then he went so sleep or smth
Jan 10 16:55:38 <Bugpowder>	I got 10BTC on yes before it hit 14.17
Jan 10 16:55:41 <Bugpowder>	was worried though
Jan 10 16:55:47 <Bugpowder>	the block was taking forever to mine
Jan 10 16:55:54 <kakobrekla>	heh
Jan 10 16:55:55 <Bugpowder>	and the price kept getting closer
Jan 10 16:55:57 <kakobrekla>	lucky :)
Jan 10 16:56:00 <Bugpowder>	14.15
Jan 10 16:56:13 <Bugpowder>	Shoulda put 100 down
Jan 10 16:56:16 <Bugpowder>	I guess
Jan 10 16:56:18 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 10 16:56:24 <Bugpowder>	although
Jan 10 16:56:27 <kakobrekla>	shoulda woulda coulda
Jan 10 16:56:29 <Bugpowder>	I guess the fee would eat into it
Jan 10 16:56:31 <Bugpowder>	so
Jan 10 16:56:35 <Bugpowder>	the optimal would be...
Jan 10 16:56:42 <Bugpowder>	MATLAB
Jan 10 16:56:49 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 10 16:57:44 <Bugpowder>	I just found a error in some data analysis in a paper I already submitted and is under review :(
Jan 10 16:57:49 <Bugpowder>	noooo
Jan 10 16:58:00 <kakobrekla>	aww
Jan 10 16:59:21 <Bugpowder>	The correctly parsed data actually looks a little better, but its just embarassing to change it after reviewers have sent comments back.
Jan 10 17:00:04 <Bugpowder>	At least I found it before its in print
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Jan 10 17:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00463117 = 7.873 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:02:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00456689 = 8.6771 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:06:46 <Namworld>	Hmm, so BitBet ipo is in about an hour I get it
Jan 10 17:07:05 <kakobrekla>	2h imho
Jan 10 17:07:24 <Namworld>	Wasn't it going at midnight?
Jan 10 17:07:38 <kakobrekla>	im gmt+1 and its 23 here
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Jan 10 17:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.00456725 = 12.3316 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 17:09:32 <error3477>	ipo ? link pls :)
Jan 10 17:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol ty jurov
Jan 10 17:09:46 <Bugpowder>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET
Jan 10 17:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	error3477 http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET
Jan 10 17:09:55 <dub>	fucking win xp
Jan 10 17:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	darn too slow
Jan 10 17:10:09 <dub>	fucking it retards
Jan 10 17:10:11 <error3477>	thanks
Jan 10 17:10:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://malware.dontneedcoffee.com/2013/01/0-day-17u10-spotted-in-while-disable.html#!/2013/01/0-day-17u10-spotted-in-while-disable.html
Jan 10 17:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	java hole again.
Jan 10 17:11:01 <Bugpowder>	error3477 If 2MM share order at .001 shows up in the next 2 minutes... I'm comin' for you.
Jan 10 17:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 10 17:11:44 <dub>	mircea_popescu: that domain is innacurate, the auther needs coffee
Jan 10 17:11:48 <dub>	author*
Jan 10 17:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00456725 = 5.024 BTC [+]
Jan 10 17:12:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00456689 = 9.1338 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
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Jan 10 17:14:41 <Namworld>	?
Jan 10 17:15:29 <Namworld>	Ok, I'm standing on the edge of my seat, waiting for the IPO.
Jan 10 17:15:43 <error3477>	I'm too high or it's a 100btc ipo ?
Jan 10 17:15:58 <Namworld>	You're too high
Jan 10 17:16:17 <Bugpowder>	think about it
Jan 10 17:16:35 <Bugpowder>	the first block is priced at .1BTC for 10,000 share
Jan 10 17:16:42 <Bugpowder>	then increasing price
Jan 10 17:17:15 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 10 17:17:35 <Bugpowder>	Namworld, you might want to get a drink... we are still 103 minutes away
Jan 10 17:19:12 <Namworld>	I haven't heard mircea tell the exact time.
Jan 10 17:19:59 <Namworld>	So I assume whenever
Jan 10 17:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1148 @ 0.00457447 = 5.2515 BTC [+]
Jan 10 17:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 168 @ 0.00456689 = 0.7672 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 184 @ 0.0045663 = 0.8402 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00062769 = 3.264 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder lol the last block is what, 0.7 BTC ?\
Jan 10 17:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld midnight gmt
Jan 10 17:27:28 <Bugpowder>	not sure i understand
Jan 10 17:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1348 @ 0.0045663 = 6.1554 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00456573 = 3.6526 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 602 @ 0.00456513 = 2.7482 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:27:49 <Namworld>	Ah, I was hoping it would be GMT
Jan 10 17:28:39 <Anduck>	wut
Jan 10 17:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the share blocks start at 1000 satoshi
Jan 10 17:28:52 <Anduck>	really, _really_, you say bitbet.us is worth 1400 usd?
Jan 10 17:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	there's 300 of them
Jan 10 17:28:56 <mircea_popescu>	the price of the last is
Jan 10 17:29:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.03**300*1000 =
Jan 10 17:29:05 <gribble>	Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
Jan 10 17:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.03**300*1000
Jan 10 17:29:08 <gribble>	7098513.48262
Jan 10 17:29:39 <Bugpowder>	that is not correct actually
Jan 10 17:29:58 <Bugpowder>	it should be 6991522
Jan 10 17:30:07 <Bugpowder>	if the contract is stated correctly
Jan 10 17:30:25 <Bugpowder>	price is 1.03 * previous block
Jan 10 17:30:43 <Bugpowder>	so there are rounding effects that magnify
Jan 10 17:30:50 <Bugpowder>	:-)
Jan 10 17:31:08 <Bugpowder>	I doubt that block will sell
Jan 10 17:31:11 <Bugpowder>	EVER
Jan 10 17:31:13 <Bugpowder>	!!!
Jan 10 17:31:40 <Bugpowder>	but who knows
Jan 10 17:31:57 <Bugpowder>	maybe an ANONYMOUS INVESTOR will emerge!
Jan 10 17:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	a ok.
Jan 10 17:32:48 <Namworld>	0.07 BTC per share? ouch
Jan 10 17:32:52 <jurov>	Bugpowder, what it they're rounding up?
Jan 10 17:33:19 <Namworld>	700000 BTC valuation.
Jan 10 17:33:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 940 @ 0.00463117 = 4.3533 BTC [+]
Jan 10 17:33:46 <Namworld>	Would take 70'000'000 BTC in debt
Jan 10 17:33:51 <Namworld>	bets*
Jan 10 17:33:59 <Namworld>	to get that back in fees.
Jan 10 17:34:30 <jurov>	no that's 7 million...
Jan 10 17:34:40 <jurov>	just that block
Jan 10 17:35:11 <Namworld>	no, 700000
Jan 10 17:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's 10mn shares.
Jan 10 17:35:26 <Namworld>	;;calc 0.07*10000000
Jan 10 17:35:26 <gribble>	700000.0
Jan 10 17:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	of course, it's 10k shares at 0.07 so that's 7btc total.
Jan 10 17:35:58 <Namworld>	700 BTC*
Jan 10 17:36:12 *	jurov is utterly confused
Jan 10 17:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 898 @ 0.00456513 = 4.0995 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 863 @ 0.00456409 = 3.9388 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:36:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 139 @ 0.00456388 = 0.6344 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:36:28 <Bugpowder>	If every block sold at the ask the sale proceeds would be 24000.4168
Jan 10 17:36:32 <Bugpowder>	BTC
Jan 10 17:36:40 <Anduck>	hey
Jan 10 17:36:46 <Anduck>	when does S.MPOE pay divs?
Jan 10 17:37:11 <dub>	http://slashdot.org/story/13/01/10/2147224/online-gambling-site-bets-on-bitcoin-to-avoid-us-laws
Jan 10 17:37:16 <dub>	gitmo in 3-2-..
Jan 10 17:37:24 <jurov>	Anduck, usually at caturday after last friday of the month
Jan 10 17:37:53 <Anduck>	'aighto
Jan 10 17:37:58 <Bugpowder>	Slashdot commenters are worse than reddit these days
Jan 10 17:38:00 <Bugpowder>	REALLY
Jan 10 17:38:00 <Anduck>	ty
Jan 10 17:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 380 @ 0.00463117 = 1.7598 BTC [+]
Jan 10 17:38:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 298 @ 0.00468145 = 1.3951 BTC [+]
Jan 10 17:39:33 <Anduck>	so umm
Jan 10 17:39:40 <Bugpowder>	This is not a bad point "Sounds like a dumb idea, until you realize that Chuck E. Cheese and similar businesses have, for decades, been using a similar tactic to avoid running afoul of gambling laws: You're not playing for gifts or money, you're playing for worthless tokens!"
Jan 10 17:39:41 <Anduck>	i received some btc.. but no idea why
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Jan 10 17:39:49 <Bugpowder>	how much Anduck?
Jan 10 17:39:55 <Anduck>	<1btc
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Jan 10 17:39:58 <Bugpowder>	I got 16BTC that just showed up one day
Jan 10 17:39:58 <Anduck>	but i think it was divs
Jan 10 17:39:59 <Anduck>	or somethign
Jan 10 17:40:15 <Anduck>	aight
Jan 10 17:40:17 <Bugpowder>	From and unknown address
Jan 10 17:40:23 <Anduck>	well i think this is legit and someone sent it on purpose
Jan 10 17:40:25 <Bugpowder>	figured it was Nefario fucking up again
Jan 10 17:40:29 <Anduck>	but i just cant remember what
Jan 10 17:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/sbbet-its-happening/
Jan 10 17:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	last minute release.
Jan 10 17:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	some financials etc.
Jan 10 17:41:52 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck maybe you bet ?
Jan 10 17:42:58 <Bugpowder>	God damn it, who do I email for some credits
Jan 10 17:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Jan 10 17:43:07 <mircea_popescu>	me.
Jan 10 17:43:08 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: maybe
Jan 10 17:43:14 <Anduck>	i did bet
Jan 10 17:43:17 <Anduck>	but no idea on what
Jan 10 17:43:18 <Anduck>	and how much
Jan 10 17:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	so check the resolved bets lol
Jan 10 17:43:22 <Anduck>	REALLY THIS IS .... SHIIT
Jan 10 17:43:24 <Anduck>	ok
Jan 10 17:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	and you can search the site for the addy
Jan 10 17:43:31 <Anduck>	can i search the site with my addr?
Jan 10 17:43:34 <Anduck>	ahh, nice
Jan 10 17:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla geniously implemented that "useless" feature
Jan 10 17:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	which i realise actually kicks ass.
Jan 10 17:44:16 <Bugpowder>	Easiest 2.5 BTC I ever made
Jan 10 17:44:20 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: i've made 2 bets with my address
Jan 10 17:44:27 <Anduck>	search only shows 1
Jan 10 17:44:31 <Namworld>	fuck
Jan 10 17:44:33 <Bugpowder>	Shoulda added 50 BTC to over 14.17
Jan 10 17:44:37 <Namworld>	I still can't read dammit
Jan 10 17:44:51 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld proxy ? fix browser ?
Jan 10 17:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	teh possibilities!
Jan 10 17:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck oh ?!
Jan 10 17:45:13 <Namworld>	Can't you at least make public announcement not require credits? Such as MPOE statements and such?
Jan 10 17:45:26 <Anduck>	let me double check
Jan 10 17:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	sure i can. i just don't want to.
Jan 10 17:45:53 <Namworld>	I can understand for the various articles to read. I don't see why announcements should be limited.
Jan 10 17:46:09 <jurov>	namworld: http://www.proxies.by/cgi-proxy.htm
Jan 10 17:46:12 <dub>	way
Jan 10 17:46:14 <dub>	wat*
Jan 10 17:46:19 <dub>	no httpd logs?
Jan 10 17:46:20 <mircea_popescu>	well, they're not
Jan 10 17:46:20 <jurov>	i use this. with noscript, ofc.
Jan 10 17:46:22 <dub>	the fuck
Jan 10 17:46:23 <kakobrekla>	Anduck pm me the addy if ya want i can double check
Jan 10 17:46:26 <Bugpowder>	I just made like 35000 trilema credits
Jan 10 17:46:29 <mircea_popescu>	unless you're an avid readed of teh site, that is.
Jan 10 17:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder omg hax ?!
Jan 10 17:46:46 <Bugpowder>	naw
Jan 10 17:46:49 <Bugpowder>	over 14.17
Jan 10 17:46:58 <Bugpowder>	+2.54 BTC
Jan 10 17:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol. wd.
Jan 10 17:47:02 <Bugpowder>	#WINNING
Jan 10 17:47:28 <Bugpowder>	email me the deposit address.  I want credits.
Jan 10 17:47:31 <Namworld>	I'll use Google as a proxy
Jan 10 17:48:06 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 10 17:48:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.02859, Best ask: 14.12999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10140, Last trade: 14.12999, 24 hour volume: 52066.63099603, 24 hour low: 13.75001, 24 hour high: 14.32000, 24 hour vwap: 14.03725
Jan 10 17:48:19 <jurov>	..till mircea starts to ask google for payment
Jan 10 17:48:20 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 1/14.03
Jan 10 17:48:21 <gribble>	0.0712758374911
Jan 10 17:48:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 426 @ 0.00469697 = 2.0009 BTC [+]
Jan 10 17:48:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00469313 = 11.2635 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 17:52:49 <mircea_popescu>	i think this is called making bitcoinz hand over fist.
Jan 10 17:53:08 <dub>	"blocks" : 166185, nope
Jan 10 17:53:48 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Jan 10 17:54:46 <Namworld>	hmm... what is this 7.5 BTC outlay?
Jan 10 17:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	each bet receives .1 btc from the house.
Jan 10 17:55:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00456388 = 5.933 BTC [-]
Jan 10 17:55:56 <Namworld>	oh
Jan 10 17:56:41 <Namworld>	That means bets under a 10 BTC total are a loss
Jan 10 17:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	well no, cause house can't lose BOTH ends of a bet.
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Jan 10 17:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	at most house loses .9 btc per bet if the odds are split 9:1 and the unlikely side prevails.
Jan 10 17:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	but in general cost per bet should be < .5
Jan 10 17:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	we;ll have better data after some months obviously.
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Jan 10 18:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1716 @ 0.00464427 = 7.9696 BTC [+]
Jan 10 18:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 484 @ 0.00470668 = 2.278 BTC [+]
Jan 10 18:00:56 <Namworld>	oh, the .1 is bet on one side
Jan 10 18:01:31 <mircea_popescu>	no, the .1 is total.
Jan 10 18:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	split accordsing to some evaluation of odds.
Jan 10 18:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	the proposer gets the smaller side.
Jan 10 18:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	and my .9 btc above should have been 0.09
Jan 10 18:02:08 <Bugpowder>	I am freaking stoked for the variable decay
Jan 10 18:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	and cost 0.05
Jan 10 18:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder :D
Jan 10 18:03:10 <Namworld>	oh, I see
Jan 10 18:03:11 <Bugpowder>	Going to market make for NFL bets next round.  Hopefully the shallower decay curve will encourage more voting due to better EV throughout the betting period
Jan 10 18:03:51 <Bugpowder>	The cool thing about variable delay is that the decay basically functions as a vig for the early bettors (like the proposer)
Jan 10 18:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	kinda the idea of decay in the first place.
Jan 10 18:04:19 <Bugpowder>	What is the optimal decay rate for a single event at a scheduled time in the future
Jan 10 18:04:24 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Jan 10 18:04:29 <mircea_popescu>	you should write a bitbet white paper.
Jan 10 18:04:41 <Bugpowder>	I will for 20 BTC
Jan 10 18:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Jan 10 18:04:55 <Bugpowder>	actually no
Jan 10 18:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	i was just about typing i'll send you a modest btc sponsorship
Jan 10 18:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	but 20 btc ain't modest! it's like over 9 thousand hashes!
Jan 10 18:05:13 <Bugpowder>	WEll
Jan 10 18:05:17 <Bugpowder>	I dunno
Jan 10 18:05:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 10 18:05:32 <Bugpowder>	starting tomorrow I am going to be spending a lot of time on a startup idea
Jan 10 18:05:40 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt anyone cnat raed well enough to actually copy your shit.
Jan 10 18:05:47 <Bugpowder>	so a whitepaper on bitbet might not be in the cards
Jan 10 18:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	a well.
Jan 10 18:06:13 <Bugpowder>	BUt there are some simple point
Jan 10 18:06:15 <Bugpowder>	points
Jan 10 18:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 683 @ 0.00456388 = 3.1171 BTC [-]
Jan 10 18:06:37 <Bugpowder>	It is beneficial for the proposer to place as much capital as possible on the bet
Jan 10 18:06:45 <Bugpowder>	to encourage betting
Jan 10 18:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Jan 10 18:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	if he places 21 mn capital he just killed betting.
Jan 10 18:07:02 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 10 18:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	but you see my point.
Jan 10 18:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	there's an optimum.
Jan 10 18:07:24 <Bugpowder>	with any time decay, you get free odds
Jan 10 18:07:27 <Bugpowder>	err
Jan 10 18:07:29 <Bugpowder>	free vig
Jan 10 18:07:41 <Anduck>	yeah it was a bet i got the btc parts from =D
Jan 10 18:08:04 <Bugpowder>	and you want to minimize the amount the odds change when other people bet, to encourage them from making bigger bets
Jan 10 18:08:17 <Bugpowder>	bigger bets = bigger wins and bigger profits for bitbet
Jan 10 18:08:19 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2013/01/10/mining-interlude/
Jan 10 18:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	this in principle is true
Jan 10 18:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder re the vig thing : it's not that simple. on one hand it will have to cover btc free rate
Jan 10 18:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	on the other, if it's too large people wil ljust skip the bet.
Jan 10 18:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	so it's a balancing act.
Jan 10 18:11:56 <Bugpowder>	exactly
Jan 10 18:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	Denver Broncos over Baltimore Ravens really is 1:3 ?~
Jan 10 18:12:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 170 @ 0.00456388 = 0.7759 BTC [-]
Jan 10 18:12:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 996 @ 0.00456311 = 4.5449 BTC [-]
Jan 10 18:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1816 @ 0.00470668 = 8.5473 BTC [+]
Jan 10 18:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 634 @ 0.00471508 = 2.9894 BTC [+]
Jan 10 18:15:08 <dub>	jcpham: how much does your power cost?
Jan 10 18:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00471508 = 1.886 BTC [+]
Jan 10 18:16:48 <Namworld>	Mine costs 0.075 CAD per kwh
Jan 10 18:17:07 <dub>	nice
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Jan 10 18:18:25 <Namworld>	I don't mine however =/
Jan 10 18:20:55 <dub>	jcpham: trap is the new dubstep
Jan 10 18:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00457039 = 5.4845 BTC [-]
Jan 10 18:21:05 <dub>	I predict it will last about as long
Jan 10 18:21:13 <dub>	ie, 13 seconds
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Jan 10 18:24:33 <dub>	dj dub's acid test of genre longevity: if I can mix it flawlessly without the use of ears, watching the waveform in serato only, its doomed
Jan 10 18:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1006 @ 0.00457039 = 4.5978 BTC [-]
Jan 10 18:28:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1044 @ 0.00456311 = 4.7639 BTC [-]
Jan 10 18:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	"* I have taken the unusual step in this case of not linking to this racist lunatic's foul-mouthed outpourings which I've had the misfortune of stumbling across previously."
Jan 10 18:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha!
Jan 10 18:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	people love trilema.
Jan 10 18:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	$217.28 monthly minus power. Facepalm.
Jan 10 18:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol poor jcpham
Jan 10 18:35:02 <dub>	powering my GPUs costs more than that
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Jan 10 18:35:18 <dub>	for like 1.5GH
Jan 10 18:37:29 <thestringpuller>	i was told at work today airbnb is on the up and up
Jan 10 18:37:50 <thestringpuller>	your old friend mircea_popescu
Jan 10 18:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	yea, sure.
Jan 10 18:38:40 <thestringpuller>	they being my bosses, said it was on some top 10 list
Jan 10 18:38:52 <thestringpuller>	along with dropbox
Jan 10 18:38:54 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 10 18:39:28 <jurov>	top 10 ideas with highest buoyancy as teh manager say
Jan 10 18:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 460 @ 0.00456311 = 2.099 BTC [-]
Jan 10 18:40:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 272 @ 0.00456208 = 1.2409 BTC [-]
Jan 10 18:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	o i see
Jan 10 18:41:38 <mircea_popescu>	well then it must indeed be a real business.
Jan 10 18:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	liek, you know, dubstep
Jan 10 18:42:49 <mod6>	WOMP WOMP WOMP
Jan 10 18:43:07 <mod6>	^^^ what dubstep sounds like
Jan 10 18:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00063493 = 10.2224 BTC [+]
Jan 10 18:44:17 <Namworld>	Hmm... 1200 BTC profit in a year estimate? Decent.
Jan 10 18:44:41 <Namworld>	I grossly rounded the number but eh
Jan 10 18:44:56 <Namworld>	More like 1300
Jan 10 18:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	i woulsdn't put much weight on 5 days extrapolarted to 1 year
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Jan 10 18:45:09 <Namworld>	yeah, me neither.
Jan 10 18:45:27 <Namworld>	I'd expect it to be lower. Maybe 300-600.
Jan 10 18:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	or why not 300-600k
Jan 10 18:46:19 <Namworld>	Hmm. Because I don't see that much demand for event betting.
Jan 10 18:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	o rly.
Jan 10 18:46:36 <mircea_popescu>	well, in simple terms : it has half the fee of s.dice and about twice the fun
Jan 10 18:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	betting is huge business, 500k btc is nothing.
Jan 10 18:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	so... yeah. that figure's mostly meaningless.
Jan 10 18:47:22 <Namworld>	Well, gamblers are often impatient... hence why they gamble instead of buying a S.DICE share... they want to win right away, get more.
Jan 10 18:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Jan 10 18:47:44 <Namworld>	Well, for sport events, there is a lot of demand.
Jan 10 18:47:59 <Namworld>	I just don't see much demand for that elsewhere either in bitcoin, at least for now.
Jan 10 18:47:59 <tzui>	betsofbitco.in failed so far
Jan 10 18:48:10 <mircea_popescu>	tzui management problems.
Jan 10 18:49:42 <tzui>	are you the lead developer of bitbet?
Jan 10 18:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Jan 10 18:50:23 <Namworld>	I'm sure mircea/kako could even get sections with default bets for every match for certain sport events and other enat features rolled out.
Jan 10 18:50:30 <tzui>	that is why bitbet has such a great design
Jan 10 18:50:32 <midnightmagic>	http://bit.ly/UOPcS4 lol
Jan 10 18:50:38 <midnightmagic>	ZOMG GLOWING ASTEROID
Jan 10 18:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld possibly but i'd rather it be done by people.
Jan 10 18:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	same model that pushed mpex.
Jan 10 18:51:08 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic coming right at ya ?
Jan 10 18:52:07 <tzui>	bitbet needs an entertaiment category
Jan 10 18:52:36 <Namworld>	Hmm... 8 minutes before IPO
Jan 10 18:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	tzui likely ya
Jan 10 18:54:24 <tzui>	either mircea is manipulating or there are some big time idiots bidding
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Jan 10 18:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	can't say i haven't heard that before.
Jan 10 18:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	entertainment added too.
Jan 10 18:55:54 <Namworld>	the 1.8 million is 500 BTC =/
Jan 10 18:55:54 <tzui>	lol
Jan 10 18:56:03 <tzui>	S.DICE IPO
Jan 10 18:56:23 <Bugpowder>	4 minutes?
Jan 10 18:56:29 <Namworld>	yeah
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Jan 10 18:57:09 <mircea_popescu>	im kind of excited, see if this fucks up lol
Jan 10 18:57:14 <Bugpowder>	lol
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Jan 10 18:57:38 <tzui>	some buys don't make any sense there are huge gaps
Jan 10 18:57:57 <jurov>	*makes extra backup*
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Jan 10 18:58:41 <kakobrekla>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.BBET
Jan 10 18:58:45 <kakobrekla>	how 'live' is this?
Jan 10 18:58:56 <kakobrekla>	is it live live?
Jan 10 18:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	it should be
Jan 10 18:59:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00456955 = 5.0265 BTC [+]
Jan 10 18:59:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1528 @ 0.00456208 = 6.9709 BTC [-]
Jan 10 18:59:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 54 @ 0.00456198 = 0.2463 BTC [-]
Jan 10 18:59:44 <jurov>	not animated. you have to refresh
Jan 10 18:59:49 <kakobrekla>	stop teasin assbot
Jan 10 18:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 10 19:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00055 = 5.5 BTC
Jan 10 19:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00055 = 5.5 BTC
Jan 10 19:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00055 = 5.5 BTC
Jan 10 19:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00055 = 5.5 BTC
Jan 10 19:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00055 = 5.5 BTC
Jan 10 19:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 4500 @ 0.00055 = 2.475 BTC
Jan 10 19:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5500 @ 0.0005 = 2.75 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 4500 @ 0.0005 = 2.25 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5500 @ 0.0005 = 2.75 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:32 <tzui>	lol
Jan 10 19:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 9500 @ 0.0005 = 4.75 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.000337 = 0.1685 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	o hello
Jan 10 19:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:40 <mod6>	here they come!
Jan 10 19:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:47 <Anduck>	soo it started?
Jan 10 19:00:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.000337 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:00:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:09 *	Pasha is now known as Cory
Jan 10 19:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2347 @ 0.0035 = 8.2145 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:01:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 7653 @ 0.0004529 = 3.466 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0004529 = 4.529 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:01:28 *	Anduck is not going to participate BBET ipo
Jan 10 19:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
Jan 10 19:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	i guess twitter crapped out ?
Jan 10 19:02:10 <tzui>	shit didn't get any
Jan 10 19:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	0.00034174	10`000
Jan 10 19:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	64`147	0.00033800
Jan 10 19:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	gap.
Jan 10 19:02:45 <kakobrekla>	ya well should have used asspost api
Jan 10 19:03:20 <mircea_popescu>	heh i guess so. next on the list, that.
Jan 10 19:03:28 <jurov>	and get kicked cause of flookding, lol
Jan 10 19:03:29 <Namworld>	well didn't get anything =/
Jan 10 19:03:43 <Namworld>	Way overpriced bids coming in.
Jan 10 19:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 4646 @ 0.00045931 = 2.134 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:03:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00047309 = 4.7309 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:03:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00048729 = 4.8729 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:03:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00050191 = 5.0191 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00051697 = 5.1697 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:03:53 <kakobrekla>	o i got something
Jan 10 19:03:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00053248 = 5.3248 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:03:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00054846 = 5.4846 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00056492 = 5.6492 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:03:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00058187 = 5.8187 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00059933 = 5.9933 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:04:07 <Bugpowder>	got i suc
Jan 10 19:04:11 <Bugpowder>	god i suck
Jan 10 19:04:35 <Diablo-D3>	so
Jan 10 19:04:42 <Diablo-D3>	btc-mining will never pay anything?
Jan 10 19:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00061731 = 6.1731 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 4000 @ 0.00063583 = 2.5433 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:05:03 <Namworld>	If Amazingrando just disappeared, not likely =/
Jan 10 19:05:15 <Diablo-D3>	goddamnit man.
Jan 10 19:05:58 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder what happened ?
Jan 10 19:06:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 6000 @ 0.00063583 = 3.815 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:06:41 <Bugpowder>	I need a password that is easier to type
Jan 10 19:06:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00065491 = 6.5491 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00067456 = 6.7456 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0006948 = 6.948 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00071565 = 7.1565 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00073712 = 7.3712 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00075924 = 7.5924 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00078202 = 7.8202 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00080549 = 8.0549 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00082966 = 8.2966 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00085455 = 8.5455 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00088019 = 8.8019 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0009066 = 9.066 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0009338 = 9.338 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00096182 = 9.6182 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	ok, so ipo results : 1420000 shares sold, 671.58363400 total shit
Jan 10 19:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00099068 = 9.9068 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00102041 = 10.2041 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00105103 = 10.5103 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00108257 = 10.8257 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00111505 = 11.1505 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	i was just doing the sumups lol
Jan 10 19:07:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00114851 = 11.4851 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00118297 = 11.8297 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00121846 = 12.1846 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00125502 = 12.5502 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00129268 = 12.9268 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00133147 = 13.3147 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 8587 @ 0.00137142 = 11.7764 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1146 @ 0.00456198 = 5.228 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1204 @ 0.00456034 = 5.4906 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Jan 10 19:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1413 @ 0.00137142 = 1.9378 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:41 <mircea_popescu>	o sdice. lol.
Jan 10 19:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00141257 = 14.1257 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00145495 = 14.5495 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0014986 = 14.986 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00154356 = 15.4356 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:44 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Jan 10 19:07:45 <dub>	its this still IPO?
Jan 10 19:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00158987 = 15.8987 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:46 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: think.. really people pay 10k USD for bitbet shars I AM TRULY AMAZED NOW
Jan 10 19:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00163757 = 16.3757 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 3014 @ 0.0016867 = 5.0837 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck you fail to grasp the power of mpex.
Jan 10 19:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 6986 @ 0.0016867 = 11.7833 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00173731 = 17.3731 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00178943 = 17.8943 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 3696 @ 0.00184312 = 6.8122 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:08:11 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: i hope even you can see the NOSENSE AND STUPIDITY here, right???? right??? RIGHT???
Jan 10 19:08:34 <Namworld>	well darn... some people... 0.0018, really?
Jan 10 19:09:00 <Anduck>	indeed..
Jan 10 19:09:02 <Anduck>	really???
Jan 10 19:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	ok if everyone's done moving i can make the reports ?
Jan 10 19:09:21 <Anduck>	should've bought some for "cheap" and sell for 100x for stupid people
Jan 10 19:09:35 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 10 19:09:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 8000 @ 0.00175 = 14 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:09:40 <Bugpowder>	I'd wait a bit
Jan 10 19:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	1`032.04540552 btc, o fuck me
Jan 10 19:09:43 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 10 19:09:44 <Bugpowder>	YES
Jan 10 19:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 20000 @ 0.00175 = 35 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:09:59 <tzui>	ol I thought 0.0005 was expensive
Jan 10 19:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	wait. what ?!
Jan 10 19:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	o, profit taking
Jan 10 19:10:10 <Anduck>	tzui: it is, very
Jan 10 19:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	dude this ipo will go down in history.
Jan 10 19:10:12 *	MadSweeney has quit (Quit: paalam)
Jan 10 19:10:15 <Bugpowder>	this is fun
Jan 10 19:10:15 <Namworld>	oh... I actually catched 20k shares at 0.0003
Jan 10 19:10:27 <Namworld>	for 7 BTC
Jan 10 19:10:27 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: people are stupid. gratz, you and mpex proved it ! =)
Jan 10 19:10:30 *	Supa (~aquietobs@24.69.202.62) has left #bitcoin-assets
Jan 10 19:10:34 <Bugpowder>	we should do this every day
Jan 10 19:10:38 <Anduck>	Namworld: sell them supafast
Jan 10 19:10:41 <dub>	woah assbot outspammed supa
Jan 10 19:10:48 <Namworld>	could flip those for 35 BTC easily
Jan 10 19:10:53 <Anduck>	do it man xD
Jan 10 19:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol dub
Jan 10 19:10:57 <Anduck>	u can get even more, Namworld
Jan 10 19:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 7000 @ 0.00175 = 12.25 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1740 @ 0.00175 = 3.045 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:11:39 <Bugpowder>	It's very educational what happened here
Jan 10 19:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	mkay, fuck this, im doing the math.
Jan 10 19:11:53 <Bugpowder>	everyone tried to sandbag
Jan 10 19:12:01 <Bugpowder>	but when the market went up
Jan 10 19:12:06 <Bugpowder>	mob buy panic
Jan 10 19:12:10 <Bugpowder>	and....
Jan 10 19:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	1`096.34040552 btc total, 1800436 share count
Jan 10 19:12:13 <Bugpowder>	the mob might be right
Jan 10 19:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1096.34040552 / 1800436
Jan 10 19:12:22 <gribble>	0.000608930506566
Jan 10 19:12:28 <Anduck>	but really.. that's just nonsense
Jan 10 19:12:31 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 10 19:12:32 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 19:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	a-ha!
Jan 10 19:12:43 <kakobrekla>	i cant even use my own shitz
Jan 10 19:12:48 <dub>	how many shares IPOd?
Jan 10 19:12:53 <mod6>	haha
Jan 10 19:13:01 <lyspooner>	what's this bbet thing
Jan 10 19:13:01 <Anduck>	i mean
Jan 10 19:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.BBET
Jan 10 19:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	check it
Jan 10 19:13:04 <mod6>	!ticker MPEX S.BBET
Jan 10 19:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	dub 3mn
Jan 10 19:13:05 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 19:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 6853 @ 0.001 = 6.853 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET
Jan 10 19:13:20 <Anduck>	i can only say that people are truly stupid.
Jan 10 19:13:22 <Bugpowder>	1.77MM
Jan 10 19:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	dude srsly, we get it. you were blown away by the market.
Jan 10 19:13:33 <Bugpowder>	sold thru
Jan 10 19:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't on the face of it mean anything other than you werw wrong.
Jan 10 19:13:55 <tzui>	16btc profit:)
Jan 10 19:13:58 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: how much % of the bitbet you and kakobrekla still own after ipo?
Jan 10 19:13:58 <lyspooner>	tldr me now
Jan 10 19:14:00 <jurov>	*coinbr users are kindly asked to check their orders*
Jan 10 19:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner new parimutuel site.
Jan 10 19:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck about 83%
Jan 10 19:14:29 <Anduck>	yeah
Jan 10 19:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	82% something like that
Jan 10 19:14:36 <Anduck>	and u sold like 17% of them..
Jan 10 19:14:41 <Anduck>	let's say u sold 20% of it
Jan 10 19:14:48 <Namworld>	each 10k block is like 0.1%
Jan 10 19:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder was saying 17.7
Jan 10 19:14:51 <Anduck>	and u got what, over 1000 btc?
Jan 10 19:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	like 1k yeas
Jan 10 19:15:03 <Anduck>	i mean what the duck people
Jan 10 19:15:03 <Bugpowder>	177 blocks sold
Jan 10 19:15:03 <Anduck>	:D
Jan 10 19:15:14 <Bugpowder>	fuck I should have bid .6
Jan 10 19:15:17 <Anduck>	14000 USD for selling _a little part_ of a just started betting site+?
Jan 10 19:15:21 <Bugpowder>	insteday of niping
Jan 10 19:15:34 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 10 19:15:39 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Jan 10 19:15:40 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 10 19:15:42 <Diablo-D3>	grr
Jan 10 19:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck with new sites what matters is who's starting them.
Jan 10 19:15:46 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Jan 10 19:15:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.06200, Best ask: 14.13899, Bid-ask spread: 0.07699, Last trade: 14.13899, 24 hour volume: 51724.88009833, 24 hour low: 13.77000, 24 hour high: 14.32000, 24 hour vwap: 14.04826
Jan 10 19:15:46 <Bugpowder>	VCs fund on the basis of the team
Jan 10 19:15:53 <Diablo-D3>	oh hey, we finally hit 14?
Jan 10 19:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	lol beat you to it.
Jan 10 19:15:58 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu EXACTLY
Jan 10 19:16:03 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: people seem to overestimate the fees you get paid
Jan 10 19:16:06 <Bugpowder>	and the profit potential
Jan 10 19:16:10 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: yes
Jan 10 19:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	no, you seem to overestimate the normalisation.
Jan 10 19:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	what do you think, "everyone's a people so nobody should get 1k" ?
Jan 10 19:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 yea, somebody won like 10btc cause of it too.
Jan 10 19:17:07 <Diablo-D3>	I think Ill sell when it hits 15
Jan 10 19:17:20 <dub>	sell nao
Jan 10 19:17:26 <dub>	all the coins
Jan 10 19:17:26 <Anduck>	well i just mean that...
Jan 10 19:17:32 <Anduck>	nice business there, mp and kako
Jan 10 19:17:32 <Anduck>	xD
Jan 10 19:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully.
Jan 10 19:17:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 60000 @ 0.001 = 60 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:18:03 *	rdponticelli (~rdpontice@gateway/tor-sasl/rdponticelli) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Jan 10 19:18:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 12962 @ 0.001 = 12.962 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:18:30 <Anduck>	sell a just started, not proved to make any money service, and if it did, it would be <10btc/mo -sell a little part of it, for 20000 usd
Jan 10 19:18:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 10 19:19:05 <Anduck>	i am amazed if you make over 10 btc this month in fees.
Jan 10 19:19:07 <Anduck>	really.
Jan 10 19:19:21 <Anduck>	anyway, you will keep 80% of the _PROFIT_ yourselves
Jan 10 19:19:34 <Anduck>	and 20% to the shares.. shares that seem to value over 20000 usd overall
Jan 10 19:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck it already made like 30.
Jan 10 19:19:38 <dub>	I am consitently amazed that you are able to remember to keep breathing let alone connect to IRC
Jan 10 19:20:09 <Anduck>	duh
Jan 10 19:20:10 <Anduck>	well
Jan 10 19:20:36 <lyspooner>	where's mpbor at the moment
Jan 10 19:20:37 <Bugpowder>	!ticker MPEX SBBET
Jan 10 19:20:38 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 19:20:40 <Bugpowder>	!ticker MPEX S.BBET
Jan 10 19:20:42 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 19:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner a shade under 5
Jan 10 19:20:47 <kakobrekla>	its not in the json
Jan 10 19:20:49 <kakobrekla>	i think
Jan 10 19:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	hum
Jan 10 19:21:42 <kakobrekla>	nope
Jan 10 19:21:43 <kakobrekla>	missing
Jan 10 19:22:16 <lyspooner>	how are those cme-based futures' volumes on mpex
Jan 10 19:22:20 <lyspooner>	link me up
Jan 10 19:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner pretty much dry.
Jan 10 19:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker MPEX S.BBET
Jan 10 19:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000337 / 0.00062553 / 0.0035 (1880251 shares, 1,176.16 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00062553 / 0.0035 (1880251 shares, 1,176.16 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00062553 / 0.0035 (1880251 shares, 1,176.16 BTC)
Jan 10 19:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	there we go
Jan 10 19:23:15 <Anduck>	:D
Jan 10 19:23:16 <Anduck>	lol'd
Jan 10 19:23:38 <lyspooner>	i read the (new) article about how awesome mpex is
Jan 10 19:23:46 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: how much of S.BBET got sold there?
Jan 10 19:23:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 7038 @ 0.0006 = 4.2228 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:23:55 <lyspooner>	it's totally awesome and like provably awesome too
Jan 10 19:24:02 <Bugpowder>	LOL
Jan 10 19:24:17 <Namworld>	Back down it goes.
Jan 10 19:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner lol which one
Jan 10 19:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	i do those like weekly
Jan 10 19:24:28 <Namworld>	Ok, sold all my shares =/
Jan 10 19:24:30 <lyspooner>	the one where you excerpt anduck
Jan 10 19:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	now i gotta google this
Jan 10 19:24:52 <lyspooner>	he's like "it's possibly not awesome" and you were like "nope, totally awesome"
Jan 10 19:25:09 <mircea_popescu>	o o o this.
Jan 10 19:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/is-smpoe-really-worth-that-much/
Jan 10 19:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	totally forgoat.
Jan 10 19:25:18 <lyspooner>	yeah that one
Jan 10 19:25:23 <Anduck>	lyspooner: duh
Jan 10 19:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	wait till he realises s.mpoe makes me worth like 600k btc
Jan 10 19:25:38 <Anduck>	:D
Jan 10 19:26:03 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: when will you be aged 40 and turn pir...pir.... you know.
Jan 10 19:26:07 <lyspooner>	the "share of m3" argument might hold water
Jan 10 19:26:20 <Namworld>	Well damn, I only made 10 BTC off of this IPO
Jan 10 19:26:21 <Anduck>	but for reelzz, grats mp
Jan 10 19:26:23 <Anduck>	well done
Jan 10 19:26:31 <jurov>	fucking can't believe it...apparently coinbr *did* manage to correctly split the carnage between 6 users and dozen orders
Jan 10 19:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	omfg ?
Jan 10 19:26:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov im in the same boat.
Jan 10 19:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	i can;'t believe this worked lol
Jan 10 19:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	apparently mpex can handle 300 orders in a second.
Jan 10 19:27:24 <Anduck>	i cant believe my eyes really
Jan 10 19:27:34 <dub>	interesting
Jan 10 19:27:35 <mircea_popescu>	i guess all that hardware does something
Jan 10 19:27:41 <Anduck>	hmmm
Jan 10 19:27:42 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu Not sure about that
Jan 10 19:27:49 <mircea_popescu>	(didn't take a second, either, they just all came the same second)
Jan 10 19:27:58 <dub>	I hit trilema from corp, shows 4 credits, I go back and theres none
Jan 10 19:28:04 <Bugpowder>	stuff was filling more slowly than that based on my page refreshes
Jan 10 19:28:11 <dub>	assuming corp security weenies are following my links :)
Jan 10 19:28:36 *	dub takes steps
Jan 10 19:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the webserver dun worry me so much
Jan 10 19:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	it's the trade engine that's the point of it all
Jan 10 19:28:48 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 10 19:28:50 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 10 19:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	dub likely.
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Jan 10 19:28:56 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 10 19:29:03 <Bugpowder>	nice spread though
Jan 10 19:29:05 <Bugpowder>	righ tnow
Jan 10 19:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 10 19:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Jan 10 19:29:29 <Anduck>	yep
Jan 10 19:29:51 <Anduck>	people will be so mad when they realize they bought the shares 1000x over real price :D
Jan 10 19:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	you should probably warn them.
Jan 10 19:30:21 <Namworld>	and bids are gone =P
Jan 10 19:30:31 <Namworld>	mostly
Jan 10 19:30:54 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: how much proportion of S.BBET got sold there?
Jan 10 19:31:03 <Anduck>	don't you do it in some kind of waves or something?
Jan 10 19:31:08 <Anduck>	and this was the first one
Jan 10 19:31:13 <mircea_popescu>	mnope.
Jan 10 19:31:16 <Namworld>	no, this was the only wave
Jan 10 19:31:21 <Anduck>	ahh
Jan 10 19:31:36 <Namworld>	with 30% sold. The remaining 10k asks are what's left of 3 million shares IPO
Jan 10 19:31:41 <Namworld>	on 10 million
Jan 10 19:31:49 <jurov>	btw, was there any bet wrt IPO?
Jan 10 19:32:00 <Anduck>	guess not
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Jan 10 19:32:32 <Bugpowder>	Weird...  There average price I paid, after profit taking for my current shares is within 0.2% of the mean price
Jan 10 19:32:39 <mod6>	http://youtu.be/2Mr4mjeZ2ko
Jan 10 19:32:44 <mod6>	there you go Anduck
Jan 10 19:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder ok. that's the sort of shit im talking about.
Jan 10 19:33:07 <mircea_popescu>	that. price formation ? mobs are stupid ?
Jan 10 19:33:10 <mircea_popescu>	riddle me that coherence.
Jan 10 19:33:29 <Bugpowder>	;;calc (325 -(.0006*117493+84))/272460
Jan 10 19:33:29 <gribble>	0.000625795346106
Jan 10 19:33:47 <Bugpowder>	thats my ave price
Jan 10 19:34:24 <Anduck>	mod6: xD
Jan 10 19:36:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 696 @ 0.00458832 = 3.1935 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1396 @ 0.00456034 = 6.3662 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:36:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 208 @ 0.00455909 = 0.9483 BTC [-]
Jan 10 19:37:01 <jurov>	!ticker MPEX S.BBET
Jan 10 19:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000337 / 0.00062543 / 0.0035 (1887289 shares, 1,180.38 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00062543 / 0.0035 (1887289 shares, 1,180.38 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00062543 / 0.0035 (1887289 shares, 1,180.38 BTC)
Jan 10 19:37:18 <jurov>	so 0.00062543 is overall avg price?
Jan 10 19:37:34 <mod6>	so far
Jan 10 19:37:39 <Namworld>	looks like it
Jan 10 19:38:11 <Bugpowder>	amazing
Jan 10 19:38:21 <Bugpowder>	there was profit taking after the run up though
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Jan 10 19:39:20 <Anduck>	that was a nice example of how to do profit when ipo happens
Jan 10 19:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.000625795346106/0.0006254
Jan 10 19:39:29 <gribble>	1.00063214919
Jan 10 19:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	three sigs
Jan 10 19:39:36 <jurov>	announced on btctalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135834.0
Jan 10 19:39:46 <Anduck>	remember when FB IPOed? price went _down_
Jan 10 19:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol this guy is struck
Jan 10 19:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck, sometimes prices go up, sometimes they go down. it's the nature of this beast.
Jan 10 19:40:22 <Bugpowder>	this is a much better valuation method though
Jan 10 19:40:31 <Bugpowder>	not guessing
Jan 10 19:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	than fb ? yes, i think it is.
Jan 10 19:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	ALSO my system didn't go down
Jan 10 19:40:39 <Bugpowder>	does anyone else use this idea?
Jan 10 19:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	unlike nasdaq.
Jan 10 19:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik.
Jan 10 19:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	far as i know i invented it.
Jan 10 19:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	hance mpipo
Jan 10 19:41:01 <Bugpowder>	I may start a finance blog
Jan 10 19:41:06 <Anduck>	huh
Jan 10 19:41:10 <Bugpowder>	this will be an very interesting case study
Jan 10 19:41:55 <Anduck>	btw
Jan 10 19:42:09 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: is there a c++ server running mpex or just php + db?
Jan 10 19:42:15 <Anduck>	or something else
Jan 10 19:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder by all means.
Jan 10 19:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	someone should.
Jan 10 19:42:57 <tzui>	mircea_popescu will you lower the ask price if no one buys?
Jan 10 19:43:02 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Jan 10 19:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's set in the contract.
Jan 10 19:43:13 <Bugpowder>	I'm very interested in optimization algorithims
Jan 10 19:43:25 <Bugpowder>	particularly in markets that are very inefficient
Jan 10 19:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	me too.
Jan 10 19:43:30 <dub>	ok
Jan 10 19:43:31 <Bugpowder>	liek IPO pricing
Jan 10 19:43:37 <dub>	everyone get off the internet
Jan 10 19:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	fu dub
Jan 10 19:44:05 <dub>	the stupid has reached critical mass
Jan 10 19:44:12 <dub>	http://paritynews.com/government/item/552-anonymous-files-petition-to-make-ddos-legal-form-of-protest
Jan 10 19:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Jan 10 19:44:23 <Anduck>	xD
Jan 10 19:44:28 <dub>	game over man
Jan 10 19:44:45 <Anduck>	why should they be legall..
Jan 10 19:44:50 <dub>	I want anyone that agrees with that dead, immediately
Jan 10 19:44:55 <Anduck>	ahh
Jan 10 19:44:57 <Anduck>	" The hacking collective doesn’t consider DDoS as a form of attack and equates it to hitting the ‘refresh’ button on a webpage."
Jan 10 19:45:07 <Anduck>	that guy is trolling or something
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Jan 10 19:46:07 <Anduck>	but hey mircea_popescu wanna answer my question about mpex?
Jan 10 19:46:42 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Jan 10 19:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	you'll have to dig through old documentations/discussions.
Jan 10 19:47:40 <Anduck>	so there aint a simple answer?
Jan 10 19:47:41 <Anduck>	wut
Jan 10 19:47:50 <Anduck>	:_:
Jan 10 19:47:53 <mod6>	take some time, read the faq?
Jan 10 19:48:03 <Anduck>	wasnt in the faq if i remember correctly.
Jan 10 19:48:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.00459323 = 14.6983 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00462031 = 3.0032 BTC [+]
Jan 10 19:48:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.0046641 = 3.9645 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 19:48:39 <mod6>	oh, i thought you said before that it was tldr
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Jan 10 19:49:18 <jurov>	Anduck, if you open and fund a coinbr account, i may be persuaded to explain
Jan 10 19:49:36 <Anduck>	let me check coinbr
Jan 10 19:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 10 19:50:04 <asa1024>	COINBR ROCKS!!!
Jan 10 19:50:05 <Anduck>	uhhh
Jan 10 19:50:37 <jurov>	asa1024 *hint* affiliate *hint*
Jan 10 19:50:56 <asa1024>	doh
Jan 10 19:50:58 <asa1024>	lol
Jan 10 19:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	i don't get it... mpex got what, 30k for sdice ?
Jan 10 19:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	why shouldn't it get 1k for bbet
Jan 10 19:51:41 <Anduck>	S.DICE makes most of the whole bitcoin transactions, they make huge profits in a month
Jan 10 19:51:47 <Anduck>	_huge_
Jan 10 19:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 10 19:52:12 <Anduck>	+ there already exists services like bitbet.us and they've not succeeded very well after start
Jan 10 19:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	part of that because people know they've got mpex backing them.
Jan 10 19:52:20 <Anduck>	succeeding meaning generating good profit
Jan 10 19:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	same thing here. being on mpex means a lot.
Jan 10 19:53:09 <Anduck>	hmmm
Jan 10 19:53:22 <Anduck>	whats the estimated profit of bitbet / mo?
Jan 10 19:53:27 <mircea_popescu>	no estimate.
Jan 10 19:53:31 <Anduck>	you must have done some kind of estimates..?
Jan 10 19:54:25 <Namworld>	No estimate...
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Jan 10 19:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	ahh this was so nice.
Jan 10 19:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	quite the afterglow, sort of like good wine.
Jan 10 19:55:30 <mod6>	:)
Jan 10 19:55:47 <dub>	like fine mdma
Jan 10 19:56:17 <mod6>	haha
Jan 10 19:57:52 <dub>	MP is currently summoning bitches to casually whip while he strokes his beard and ruminates over his success
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Jan 10 19:58:57 <jurov>	rofl
Jan 10 19:59:03 <mod6>	:D
Jan 10 19:59:11 <mod6>	i know i would
Jan 10 19:59:58 <dub>	heh http://imgur.com/lb14X
Jan 10 20:00:43 <mod6>	ahh walmart
Jan 10 20:00:52 <jurov>	"Spoiler: It's not going to beat betsofbitco.in" haha btctalk delivers
Jan 10 20:01:01 <Bugpowder>	Anduck betsofbitcoin sucks because they don't have variable time decay and they don't have any big bettors setting odds lines with their own capital.  Bitbet will have both.
Jan 10 20:01:22 <Anduck>	right
Jan 10 20:01:22 <Anduck>	ok
Jan 10 20:01:37 <Anduck>	time will show
Jan 10 20:02:33 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder there's more but those two can be enough for now i guess
Jan 10 20:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	"Let's see how well it does after the hype has cooled down."
Jan 10 20:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	what hype ?!
Jan 10 20:03:39 <Anduck>	the hype
Jan 10 20:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	like ?
Jan 10 20:05:02 <Anduck>	>1100 btc for <20% of bitbet.
Jan 10 20:05:54 <Anduck>	jurov: i am pretty sure bitbet will atleast be a very good competitor
Jan 10 20:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	competitor ?
Jan 10 20:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	puhleaze.
Jan 10 20:06:48 <Anduck>	=P
Jan 10 20:06:57 <Anduck>	good hype there, yes..
Jan 10 20:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	no, that is a statement of fact.
Jan 10 20:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	add up the bets made in the past week, see what 80% is on bitbet.
Jan 10 20:07:30 <mircea_popescu>	there's no competition in those terms.
Jan 10 20:07:36 <Anduck>	it's like some real world companies.. people praise them like gods and _really_ they just poop in the customers heads
Jan 10 20:07:41 <mircea_popescu>	and hype is a matter of repeating dubious/false claims through many channels.
Jan 10 20:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	not a matter of people discussing facts in their out of the world irc channel.
Jan 10 20:08:16 <Anduck>	duhh.. thats not the definition of hype
Jan 10 20:08:43 <Anduck>	UD tells it the best way: '
Jan 10 20:08:43 <Anduck>	A fad. A clever marketing strategy which a product is advertized as the thing everyone must have, to the point where people begin to feel they need to consume it.'
Jan 10 20:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0046641 = 9.3282 BTC [+]
Jan 10 20:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20 @ 0.00471508 = 0.0943 BTC [+]
Jan 10 20:08:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 130 @ 0.00471751 = 0.6133 BTC [+]
Jan 10 20:08:56 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Jan 10 20:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	where pray tell was bbet advertised ?
Jan 10 20:09:20 <Anduck>	wut?
Jan 10 20:09:49 <Anduck>	i don't think it's really about advertising about it or not
Jan 10 20:10:05 <Anduck>	it's "from the owner of mpex" - that's enough to grow up a hype
Jan 10 20:10:09 <Anduck>	right?
Jan 10 20:10:28 <dub>	please stop talking to this waste of oxygen
Jan 10 20:11:03 <jurov>	dear folks, no sweat
Jan 10 20:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	dub the disadvantage of news getting out : the forum moves to irc
Jan 10 20:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	"from the owner of mpex" is fact, not hype in this case.
Jan 10 20:12:27 <Anduck>	it is a fact, yes
Jan 10 20:12:35 <Anduck>	but it _grows_ the hype for bitbet
Jan 10 20:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	...
Jan 10 20:12:41 <Anduck>	also a fact
Jan 10 20:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	how old are you Anduck ?
Jan 10 20:12:59 <Anduck>	how is that relevant to this subject?
Jan 10 20:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	because you are making mistakes consistent with an intellectual age of about fifteen,
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Jan 10 20:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	and i'd like to know if you're a healthy young human or a mentally retarded one.
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Jan 10 20:13:59 <Anduck>	please tell me in pm about my mistakes
Jan 10 20:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	fact can not add to hype.
Jan 10 20:14:24 <Namworld>	How not? O.o
Jan 10 20:14:42 <mircea_popescu>	the old story of know the tree by its fruit.
Jan 10 20:14:48 <mircea_popescu>	if fact can add to hype then there's no fact.
Jan 10 20:14:49 <Anduck>	i think mircea popescu thinks hype means something else than it means
Jan 10 20:14:59 <Namworld>	A fact, such as a celebrity endorsing a product, can create a lot of hype for a product...
Jan 10 20:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	it's no the fact that creates the hype.
Jan 10 20:15:18 <Anduck>	...
Jan 10 20:15:28 <Anduck>	alright
Jan 10 20:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	"endorsing" is the weasel word in there.
Jan 10 20:15:56 <mircea_popescu>	the sentence correctly is "the fact of a celebrity hyping a product adds to hype'
Jan 10 20:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	that's true.
Jan 10 20:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	simply being the thing they use does not.
Jan 10 20:16:05 <Anduck>	maybe i should quit this conversation before i get accusated of being mentally retarded again
Jan 10 20:16:19 <mod6>	or end up featured in another trilima article
Jan 10 20:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	now that's unlikely.
Jan 10 20:16:27 <Namworld>	Endorsing is not the same as hyping.
Jan 10 20:16:43 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld fact remains, falsehood does not stem from truth.
Jan 10 20:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	the key element of hype is falsehood.
Jan 10 20:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	(the other one is repetition)
Jan 10 20:16:55 <Namworld>	Hype is not falsehood.
Jan 10 20:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	if presented as fact it is.
Jan 10 20:17:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [TEST.ONE] 4321 @ 123.12345678 = 532016.4567 BTC
Jan 10 20:17:16 <Anduck>	mod6: i wouldn't mind in this case
Jan 10 20:17:25 <Namworld>	It's but one definition of hype.
Jan 10 20:17:46 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny, cause i'm currently embroiled in an equally amusing debate with some guy on the forum.
Jan 10 20:17:47 <Namworld>	Hype can also be the interest arising from the advertising and facts regarding a new product.
Jan 10 20:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	that was about the definition of fiat.
Jan 10 20:18:17 <Anduck>	...
Jan 10 20:18:26 <Anduck>	blah blah blah
Jan 10 20:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i guess it could be. the astute observer might notice that i in general deal in anti-hype
Jan 10 20:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	works pretty well in btc so far.
Jan 10 20:24:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [TEST-TWO] 4321 @ 123.12345678 = 532016.4567 BTC
Jan 10 20:24:51 <jurov>	!ticker btctc test-two
Jan 10 20:24:53 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 20:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 77 @ 0.00471751 = 0.3632 BTC [+]
Jan 10 20:25:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00473752 = 5.685 BTC [+]
Jan 10 20:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 234 @ 0.00474435 = 1.1102 BTC [+]
Jan 10 20:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00474687 = 3.3228 BTC [+]
Jan 10 20:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 192 @ 0.00475027 = 0.9121 BTC [+]
Jan 10 20:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1097 @ 0.00475357 = 5.2147 BTC [+]
Jan 10 20:26:49 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
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Jan 10 20:26:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.06000, Best ask: 14.13597, Bid-ask spread: 0.07597, Last trade: 14.06000, 24 hour volume: 51252.60596179, 24 hour low: 13.77000, 24 hour high: 14.32000, 24 hour vwap: 14.05461
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Jan 10 20:27:20 <kakobrekla>	!ticker bt ltc-mining
Jan 10 20:27:22 <assbot>	[BTCT:LTC-MINING] 1D: 0.4399 / 0.44 / 0.44 (5 shares, 2.2 BTC),  7D: 0.411 / 0.44 / 0.4503 (20 shares, 8.9 BTC), 30D: 0.3801 / 0.56 / 0.89 (34 shares, 18.9 BTC)
Jan 10 20:27:22 <mircea_popescu>	"bitcoin collapses on news of oversubscribed s.bbet ipo"
Jan 10 20:27:25 <mircea_popescu>	now that's hype :D
Jan 10 20:28:52 <Anduck>	thats fud
Jan 10 20:38:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol i like someone put a 5mn share wall at 2500
Jan 10 20:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	stuff like that has happened before...
Jan 10 20:43:02 <Bugpowder>	too bad tehre were no props on the # of ipo blocks sold
Jan 10 20:43:08 <Bugpowder>	that would ahve been funnny
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Jan 10 20:43:42 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly.
Jan 10 20:43:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1575 BTC
Jan 10 20:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	kinda too easy to manipulate tho i guess
Jan 10 20:44:31 <burnside>	!ticker bt btc-trading-pt
Jan 10 20:44:33 <assbot>	[BTCT:BTC-TRADING-PT] 1D: 0.1575 / 0.1575 / 0.1575 (1 shares, 0.2 BTC),  7D: 0.1387 / 0.14 / 0.1575 (190 shares, 27.0 BTC), 30D: 0.125 / 0.14 / 0.1689 (426 shares, 58.6 BTC)
Jan 10 20:44:56 <burnside>	big bucksssss
Jan 10 20:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Jan 10 20:45:11 <burnside>	thanks for the assist kakobrekla, that was a trade on the site, works great
Jan 10 20:45:20 <kakobrekla>	welcome burnside
Jan 10 20:45:39 <Bugpowder>	too expensive to manipulate though
Jan 10 20:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	that'd depend on the bet i reckno
Jan 10 20:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	so Ukto the only one left ?
Jan 10 20:48:04 <kakobrekla>	and pico!
Jan 10 20:48:07 <kakobrekla>	;>
Jan 10 20:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	ugh
Jan 10 20:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	you know, sooner or later you'll meet the nasty problem of having to set a standard.
Jan 10 20:50:15 <mircea_popescu>	better be prepared.
Jan 10 20:51:01 <kakobrekla>	how about volume
Jan 10 20:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	pico can claim 1bn volume, nobody'd know
Jan 10 20:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	havelock has had what today, 100 btc ? 10 ?
Jan 10 20:51:31 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Jan 10 20:51:40 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Jan 10 20:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. me either.
Jan 10 20:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	but i know i sure as heck don't want to have mpex trades stream in the same place with that dood's imaginary 1k basic "mining corp"
Jan 10 20:52:18 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Jan 10 20:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	maybe case by case basis works
Jan 10 20:53:04 <burnside>	if (vol > 2) exit;
Jan 10 20:53:15 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 10 20:53:22 <Anduck>	maybe u should make another channel for mpex-only stream?
Jan 10 20:53:30 <kakobrekla>	that would exit everything but pico
Jan 10 20:53:55 <burnside>	heh, meant inside the pico code block  :P
Jan 10 20:54:03 <Anduck>	xD
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Jan 10 21:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder btw you were right, my bad. a bunch of models were discussed and i forgot that in the end i decided the blocks go +1s each
Jan 10 21:00:10 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 10 21:02:00 <Namworld>	hey burnside, I'll pm you
Jan 10 21:05:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.0098 = 0.196 BTC
Jan 10 21:06:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 103 @ 0.00475357 = 0.4896 BTC [+]
Jan 10 21:06:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00475404 = 2.377 BTC [+]
Jan 10 21:06:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2235 @ 0.00475426 = 10.6258 BTC [+]
Jan 10 21:06:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 466 @ 0.00475538 = 2.216 BTC [+]
Jan 10 21:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 346 @ 0.00475665 = 1.6458 BTC [+]
Jan 10 21:11:16 <Namworld>	BTC-BOND!
Jan 10 21:11:40 <mircea_popescu>	o hey!
Jan 10 21:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	wd.
Jan 10 21:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker b btc-bond
Jan 10 21:11:51 <assbot>	If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it.
Jan 10 21:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btc btc-bond
Jan 10 21:11:56 <assbot>	[BTCT:BTC-BOND] 1D: 0.0097 / 0.0097 / 0.0098 (43 shares, 0.4 BTC),  7D: 0.009 / 0.01 / 0.01 (5370 shares, 50.6 BTC), 30D: 0.008 / 0.01 / 0.011 (8094 shares, 74.9 BTC)
Jan 10 21:13:58 <Namworld>	Yeah, not really big.
Jan 10 21:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	seems very stable.
Jan 10 21:14:46 <Namworld>	Well I offer to repay them 0.01 BTC on demand.
Jan 10 21:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	a
Jan 10 21:15:02 <mircea_popescu>	odd that it trades for undet then ?!
Jan 10 21:15:08 <Namworld>	and if someone puts them low on the ask, I buy them at a discount.
Jan 10 21:15:14 <Namworld>	Yes, I was saying this the other day.
Jan 10 21:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	i see now lol
Jan 10 21:15:31 <Namworld>	The 40 BTC withdrawal was for that. It was going as low as 0.009
Jan 10 21:15:35 <Namworld>	10% off =/
Jan 10 21:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	i guess people are still muchly dicking about
Jan 10 21:16:00 <Namworld>	No one ever used the email to request to redeem yet. Not once.
Jan 10 21:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	189bxJPdjZj7rZtqFBAdMsHbnkdm3U3Wz5 ahaha jurov, the impressionist painter.
Jan 10 21:16:08 <Namworld>	Looks like it.
Jan 10 21:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i guess that shows how well read contracts are.
Jan 10 21:19:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1337 @ 0.00470857 = 6.2954 BTC [-]
Jan 10 21:20:07 <Namworld>	I see the same thing everywhere... people complaining of being scammed for clicking on a button confirming a fee. People confirming a service without even checking the pricing. People complaining of not being warned of something they couldn't do or would be charged for that is written clearly in instructions.
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Jan 10 21:20:20 <Namworld>	They just go click click click I want this now.
Jan 10 21:20:34 <kakobrekla>	I want a cigar.
Jan 10 21:20:37 <kakobrekla>	Now.
Jan 10 21:20:55 <error3477>	i have a cigar
Jan 10 21:20:56 <error3477>	now
Jan 10 21:21:08 <kakobrekla>	ill have coffee instead
Jan 10 21:21:17 <kakobrekla>	now
Jan 10 21:21:25 <error3477>	it's cold
Jan 10 21:21:27 <error3477>	f*
Jan 10 21:22:32 <mircea_popescu>	colf ?
Jan 10 21:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	fold ?
Jan 10 21:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	ft's ?
Jan 10 21:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	omfg i must knowf
Jan 10 21:23:19 <kakobrekla>	if's cold.
Jan 10 21:23:33 <mircea_popescu>	it'f
Jan 10 21:24:00 <kakobrekla>	ur breaking my parser
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Jan 10 21:34:36 <mircea_popescu>	https://betbybitcoin.com/en/top
Jan 10 21:34:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol that didn't take long ?
Jan 10 21:35:52 <dub>	I sale betting to you
Jan 10 21:36:17 <dub>	velly chep
Jan 10 21:36:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 7 @ 0.745 = 5.215 BTC
Jan 10 21:36:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.75 = 2.25 BTC [+]
Jan 10 21:36:43 <kakobrekla>	dub :DD
Jan 10 21:36:58 <kakobrekla>	accually not that cheap
Jan 10 21:37:09 <kakobrekla>	Owner's fee 	 10.00 %
Jan 10 21:37:13 <mircea_popescu>	dub im currently getting about one "premium stock exchange domain" offered a week
Jan 10 21:37:15 <dub>	wat
Jan 10 21:37:16 <kakobrekla>	whatever da fuck that means
Jan 10 21:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine it's bound to go up
Jan 10 21:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135395.0
Jan 10 21:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	your kinda biz
Jan 10 21:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile irl : http://www.batstrading.com/alerts/
Jan 10 21:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	tldr : fake exchange manipulates prices. "tech error" blamed.
Jan 10 21:57:02 <dub>	lame, on call for the first time in 6 months or so
Jan 10 21:57:47 <kakobrekla>	OMG fuckin rainbow bitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135848.msg1447186#msg1447186
Jan 10 21:59:09 <dub>	nice answer
Jan 10 21:59:58 <dub>	I propose a standard of variable sized ascii penises
Jan 10 22:00:38 <dub>	optionally rainbow colored
Jan 10 22:00:43 <kakobrekla>	:DD
Jan 10 22:00:54 <kakobrekla>	i got a black one
Jan 10 22:01:37 <kakobrekla>	no racism.
Jan 10 22:01:57 <dub>	  ___
Jan 10 22:02:00 <dub>	 //  7       KARMA WILL GET YOU
Jan 10 22:02:03 <dub>	(_,_/\
Jan 10 22:02:05 <dub>	 \    \      MEANWHILE THIS GAY ASCII DICK
Jan 10 22:02:06 *	burnside is now known as burnside_afk
Jan 10 22:02:09 <dub>	  \    \
Jan 10 22:02:12 <dub>	  _\    \__  MAKES GOOD COMPANY
Jan 10 22:02:15 <dub>	 (   \     )
Jan 10 22:02:17 <dub>	  \___\___/
Jan 10 22:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00461194 = 19.6007 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:02:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 442 @ 0.00455909 = 2.0151 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:02:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2582 @ 0.00455832 = 11.7696 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:02:37 <kakobrekla>	burnside in between.
Jan 10 22:03:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 118 @ 0.00455832 = 0.5379 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:03:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 643 @ 0.00455708 = 2.9302 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3359 @ 0.00455708 = 15.3072 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:03:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00455673 = 7.2908 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00455613 = 2.2781 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00455395 = 6.3755 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00455109 = 3.1858 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00455034 = 2.5027 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2130 @ 0.00454938 = 9.6902 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:04:01 <kakobrekla>	>I'm not worried about myself, I know math. I'm worried about grandmas who spent their whole lives doing money transactions to 2 decimal places.
Jan 10 22:04:02 <kakobrekla>	omg.
Jan 10 22:04:09 <kakobrekla>	i cant even...
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Jan 10 22:05:53 <dub>	haha I hate tuxblackedo but he comes with teh funny at times
Jan 10 22:05:58 <dub>	http://i.qkme.me/3sirj9.jpg
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Jan 10 22:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 720 @ 0.00454938 = 3.2756 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:09:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00454814 = 5.2304 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00454736 = 9.0947 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 130 @ 0.00454491 = 0.5908 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:11:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.05 BTC
Jan 10 22:13:16 <Namworld>	Look, BTC-MINING started trading =/
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Jan 10 22:25:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3900 @ 0.00461687 = 18.0058 BTC [+]
Jan 10 22:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00469636 = 5.6356 BTC [+]
Jan 10 22:31:30 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ERE4uiufqE
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Jan 10 22:38:28 <kakobrekla>	i installed some personality into assbot
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Jan 10 22:46:16 <mircea_popescu>	retardas galore
Jan 10 22:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	dub why ya hate the man ?
Jan 10 22:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	he wrote php dns
Jan 10 22:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3370 @ 0.00454491 = 15.3163 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00454234 = 4.9966 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:49:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 230 @ 0.00454216 = 1.0447 BTC [-]
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Jan 10 22:53:44 <dub>	he wrote what?
Jan 10 22:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 570 @ 0.00454216 = 2.589 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:56:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2280 @ 0.00453528 = 10.3404 BTC [-]
Jan 10 22:56:42 <Bugpowder>	!ticker MPEX S.BBET
Jan 10 22:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000337 / 0.00062543 / 0.0035 (1887289 shares, 1,180.38 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00062543 / 0.0035 (1887289 shares, 1,180.38 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00062543 / 0.0035 (1887289 shares, 1,180.38 BTC)
Jan 10 22:57:05 <Bugpowder>	How did a share go off at .0035?
Jan 10 23:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	Buglouse out of order reporting ?
Jan 10 23:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	dub a dns server in php
Jan 10 23:02:02 <Bugpowder>	I don't think it really went off there
Jan 10 23:02:28 <Bugpowder>	coinbr doesn't show it
Jan 10 23:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	o think it must be some twitter thing
Jan 10 23:04:17 <kakobrekla>	err twitter thing in the json api?
Jan 10 23:04:51 <mircea_popescu>	no i mean the placing of it in the printout
Jan 10 23:06:20 <mircea_popescu>	there was in fact a 2347 * 350000	
Jan 10 23:07:36 <mircea_popescu>	and i think coinbr does show it, that's why the horiz lines
Jan 10 23:09:29 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Jan 10 23:09:48 <Bugpowder>	fat finger order combined with someone reselling before the IPO gap formed?
Jan 10 23:10:44 <Bugpowder>	NOP
Jan 10 23:11:08 <Bugpowder>	The orange horizontal line does not extend to the edge of the plot in coinbr
Jan 10 23:11:42 <Bugpowder>	it stops around .00184
Jan 10 23:11:48 <Bugpowder>	the last IPO block to go
Jan 10 23:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Jan 10 23:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i imagine someone put an order at 350000
Jan 10 23:16:40 <mircea_popescu>	when they meant to put it in at 35000
Jan 10 23:16:43 <mircea_popescu>	and that's all it took.
Jan 10 23:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	next block on sale hit that (partially)
Jan 10 23:17:20 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 10 23:17:25 <Bugpowder>	though why is it not on coinbr
Jan 10 23:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	now that i don't know.
Jan 10 23:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	but i noticed twitter cut off trades after the first ~100
Jan 10 23:18:05 <Bugpowder>	I am so bummed I did not make anything on the IPO yet
Jan 10 23:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.batstrading.com/alerts/ still in shock over this one
Jan 10 23:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol didn't you say you took some profits ?
Jan 10 23:18:20 <Bugpowder>	I am going to look at my Vanguard account and try to cheer up
Jan 10 23:18:22 <Bugpowder>	Well yes
Jan 10 23:18:29 <Bugpowder>	I got shut out on my bids
Jan 10 23:18:38 <Bugpowder>	kept miss typing my password
Jan 10 23:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3147 @ 0.00453433 = 14.2695 BTC [-]
Jan 10 23:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2153 @ 0.00453373 = 9.7611 BTC [-]
Jan 10 23:19:02 <Bugpowder>	then bought everything from 45-100
Jan 10 23:19:24 <Bugpowder>	then sold 30k @ 175
Jan 10 23:20:12 <Bugpowder>	SP500 5 year high?
Jan 10 23:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya passowrds can quickly become an issue in situations like this.
Jan 10 23:22:15 <Bugpowder>	I should have pyMPEX to just accept my creditials automattically or something
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Jan 10 23:25:06 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu Did you read the Peter Thiel class notes from the Stanford startup course?
Jan 10 23:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Jan 10 23:26:12 <Bugpowder>	They are pretty good. (I think) http://blakemasters.com/peter-thiels-cs183-startup
Jan 10 23:26:57 <Bugpowder>	http://betsofbitco.in needs to break out of the BFL and Bitcoin betting rut.
Jan 10 23:33:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 47 @ 0.00453373 = 0.2131 BTC [-]
Jan 10 23:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00453336 = 5.2134 BTC [-]
Jan 10 23:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 803 @ 0.00453297 = 3.64 BTC [-]
Jan 10 23:35:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4150 @ 0.00457397 = 18.982 BTC [+]
Jan 10 23:36:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00063493 BTC [+]
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Jan 10 23:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	In most prior human societies, people made money by taking it from others. The industrial revolution wrought a paradigm shift in which people make money through trade, not plunder.
Jan 10 23:41:45 <mircea_popescu>	that's the sort of thing i don't like to see.
Jan 10 23:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	millitant inculture.
Jan 10 23:41:59 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 10 23:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	obviously in the next paragraph it falls wholesale into futurism.
Jan 10 23:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	a well.
Jan 10 23:42:44 <Bugpowder>	skip ahead then
Jan 10 23:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	lemme tell you a big secret pretty much any scholar knows :
Jan 10 23:43:00 <mircea_popescu>	if you were to wake up in 12 ad rome tomorrow morning
Jan 10 23:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	you couldn't prove this by just talking to the people.
Jan 10 23:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, sure, they'd be speaking latin.
Jan 10 23:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	but on this simple "i'm from the future so i'm so much better" paradigm you'd do jack shit.
Jan 10 23:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00063493 BTC [+]
Jan 10 23:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	most people in most times traded for the simple reason that fighting is so fucking dangerous.
Jan 10 23:45:08 <Bugpowder>	Section IV on is good.  Also Class 3 and 4 are very interesting
Jan 10 23:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	most animals don;'t actually fight either
Jan 10 23:45:16 <mircea_popescu>	they just dance
Jan 10 23:45:19 <Bugpowder>	yea
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Jan 10 23:57:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] []  @  BTC
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Jan 11 00:03:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 863 @ 0.00469636 = 4.053 BTC [+]
Jan 11 00:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 887 @ 0.00472982 = 4.1954 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 00:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5 BTC
Jan 11 00:20:04 <asa1024>	havelock?
Jan 11 00:20:19 <asa1024>	is this the personality that you added to assbot?
Jan 11 00:20:54 <Namworld>	Havelock and BTCT.co trades are reported here like MPEx now
Jan 11 00:22:40 <kakobrekla>	no, the personality has not been discovered yet
Jan 11 00:23:12 <kakobrekla>	anyway, 0.1337 to whoever finds where is it comming from.
Jan 11 00:23:23 <kakobrekla>	btc that is
Jan 11 00:23:25 <kakobrekla>	:)
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Jan 11 00:31:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [TEST] 987654321 @ 1.23456789 = 1219326311.1264 BTC
Jan 11 00:33:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00063493 BTC [+]
Jan 11 00:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00063493 BTC [+]
Jan 11 00:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	aha.
Jan 11 00:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00062769 BTC [-]
Jan 11 00:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00063493 BTC [+]
Jan 11 00:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00063493 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 00:48:01 <Namworld>	Breaking News: In an unexpected turn of events, MPEx is the host of a record breaking trade totaling over the total amount of bitcoins in existance. In other news, a 1 cm asteroid is heading toward Earth, which might just kill everyone in an fiery apocalyptic scenario, as rendered by our artists in the following video...
Jan 11 00:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 11 00:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	the above were tests related to switching to new assapi
Jan 11 00:50:56 <Namworld>	Hmm, nice name. ass-API
Jan 11 00:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	which has occured smoothly and now we're on teh new interface.
Jan 11 00:53:20 <Namworld>	Is it the most impossibly complex to use API, plus you have to interact with it in Morse code?
Jan 11 00:53:31 <Namworld>	Hence "ass"api
Jan 11 00:53:39 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Jan 11 00:53:45 <mircea_popescu>	its just very sikrit
Jan 11 00:54:01 <Namworld>	Well assbot and his api doesn't desrve its name
Jan 11 00:54:50 <kakobrekla>	whats wrong?
Jan 11 00:55:57 <Namworld>	You can't call it assbot with its "ass"api if it's not being an ass, requiring very complex commands plus it has to be in Morse code.
Jan 11 00:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	ass in the other sense.
Jan 11 00:59:02 <kakobrekla>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2mC04Rt35U#t=30
Jan 11 01:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00472571 = 5.9071 BTC [-]
Jan 11 01:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00472982 = 1.1825 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 01:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1358 @ 0.00469654 = 6.3779 BTC [-]
Jan 11 01:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 840 @ 0.00472982 = 3.973 BTC [+]
Jan 11 01:22:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 468 @ 0.00475665 = 2.2261 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 01:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00466298 = 6.5282 BTC [-]
Jan 11 01:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 233 @ 0.00460859 = 1.0738 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 01:40:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00460859 = 7.8346 BTC [-]
Jan 11 01:46:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.55700982 = 557.0098 BTC [-]
Jan 11 01:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.47889506 = 478.8951 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 02:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 50000 @ 0.00149 = 74.5 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:01:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 20000 @ 0.00169 = 33.8 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 6304 @ 0.00184312 = 11.619 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:01:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00189842 = 18.9842 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00195538 = 19.5538 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 11 02:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000337 / 0.00067495 / 0.0035 (1983593 shares, 1,338.84 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00067495 / 0.0035 (1983593 shares, 1,338.84 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00067495 / 0.0035 (1983593 shares, 1,338.84 BTC)
Jan 11 02:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	fuck off by a bitcoin!
Jan 11 02:04:50 <Namworld>	eh
Jan 11 02:05:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2596 @ 0.00063493 = 1.6483 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9889 @ 0.00063734 = 6.3027 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19427 @ 0.00064096 = 12.4519 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7013 @ 0.00064793 = 4.5439 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20329 @ 0.00065153 = 13.245 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21529 @ 0.00065605 = 14.1241 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2217 @ 0.00065629 = 1.455 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28355 @ 0.00065675 = 18.6221 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11320 @ 0.00065997 = 7.4709 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8968 @ 0.00065998 = 5.9187 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065999 = 0.66 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	obviously i meant fuck! off by a bitcoin!
Jan 11 02:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21732 @ 0.00065999 = 14.3429 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:05:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45625 @ 0.00066 = 30.1125 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 02:06:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.46 = 3.22 BTC
Jan 11 02:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	anyway this is all too much excitement for one day.
Jan 11 02:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	catch you all later.
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Jan 11 02:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00471737 = 7.0761 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:24:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.44 BTC
Jan 11 02:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1586 @ 0.00475665 = 7.544 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1914 @ 0.00475682 = 9.1046 BTC [+]
Jan 11 02:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00471737 = 4.0098 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 02:51:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1209 @ 0.00464316 = 5.6136 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 03:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 291 @ 0.00464316 = 1.3512 BTC [-]
Jan 11 03:15:42 <malaimo>	 In other news, a 1 cm asteroid is heading toward Earth,
Jan 11 03:15:43 <malaimo>	                       which might just kill everyone in an fiery apocalyptic scenario, as rendered by our artists in the
Jan 11 03:15:46 <malaimo>	                       following video...
Jan 11 03:28:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 03:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 69 @ 0.00475682 = 0.3282 BTC [+]
Jan 11 03:47:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1731 @ 0.00475911 = 8.238 BTC [+]
Jan 11 03:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 341 @ 0.00475911 = 1.6229 BTC [+]
Jan 11 03:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 959 @ 0.00475977 = 4.5646 BTC [+]
Jan 11 04:09:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33 = 0.99 BTC
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Jan 11 05:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 441 @ 0.00475977 = 2.0991 BTC [+]
Jan 11 05:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00476235 = 2.8574 BTC [+]
Jan 11 05:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2002 @ 0.00476246 = 9.5344 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 05:44:03 <kilo>	!help
Jan 11 05:44:04 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 11 05:44:05 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 11 05:44:52 <kilo>	!ticker BTCTCO BASIC-MINING
Jan 11 05:44:54 <assbot>	[BTCT:BASIC-MINING] 1D: 0.33 / 0.33 / 0.33 (5 shares, 1.7 BTC),  7D: 0.3105 / 0.33 / 0.33 (444 shares, 145.3 BTC), 30D: 0.3105 / 0.33 / 0.33 (1075 shares, 353.4 BTC)
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Jan 11 05:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2059 @ 0.00473852 = 9.7566 BTC [-]
Jan 11 05:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00471961 = 8.2593 BTC [-]
Jan 11 05:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2691 @ 0.00466431 = 12.5517 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 05:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 848 @ 0.00476246 = 4.0386 BTC [+]
Jan 11 05:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 978 @ 0.00476487 = 4.66 BTC [+]
Jan 11 05:50:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1451 @ 0.00476524 = 6.9144 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 06:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00473462 = 3.7877 BTC [-]
Jan 11 06:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00466431 = 10.0283 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 06:25:31 <jurov>	mornin
Jan 11 06:27:33 <dub>	yes it is
Jan 11 06:28:51 <jurov>	dunno why coinbr does not have bbet @ 350000
Jan 11 06:29:03 <Anduck>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 11 06:29:04 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 11 06:29:08 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.bbet
Jan 11 06:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000337 / 0.00067495 / 0.0035 (1983593 shares, 1,338.84 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00067495 / 0.0035 (1983593 shares, 1,338.84 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00067495 / 0.0035 (1983593 shares, 1,338.84 BTC)
Jan 11 06:29:12 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 11 06:29:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00453297 / 0.00463328 / 0.00476524 (327385 shares, 1,516.87 BTC), 7D: 0.00360676 / 0.00448317 / 0.0048 (2142570 shares, 9,605.53 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00346045 / 0.0048 (14589788 shares, 50,487.32 BTC)
Jan 11 06:30:11 <jurov>	maybe it wasnt in rss data, i don't log them
Jan 11 06:32:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0075 = 0.075 BTC
Jan 11 06:33:19 <jurov>	and backup rss reader failed shortly after midnight. duh.
Jan 11 06:33:52 <jurov>	screw that. shoulda move to assapi.
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Jan 11 06:39:54 <kilo>	Some one needs to update #bitcoin-assets-trades
Jan 11 06:39:59 <kilo>	[Welcome to #bitcoin-assets-trades - streaming GLBSE and MPEX trades live]
Jan 11 06:40:27 <dub>	kakobrekla: ^
Jan 11 06:41:46 <kilo>	!help
Jan 11 06:41:47 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 11 06:41:48 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 11 06:41:55 <dub>	so think I was home from work 20 minutes when call out came in, still going 8 hours later
Jan 11 06:42:10 <dub>	doth not bode well
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Jan 11 06:43:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00467944 = 8.423 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 06:59:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00470547 = 8.7051 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 07:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00470547 = 0.4705 BTC [+]
Jan 11 07:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00466655 = 10.2664 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 07:16:46 <Bugpowder>	!ticker MPEX S.BBET
Jan 11 07:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000337 / 0.00067495 / 0.0035 (1983593 shares, 1,338.84 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00067495 / 0.0035 (1983593 shares, 1,338.84 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00067495 / 0.0035 (1983593 shares, 1,338.84 BTC)
Jan 11 07:18:55 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 11 07:18:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.98020, Best ask: 14.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01980, Last trade: 13.98020, 24 hour volume: 46881.23585401, 24 hour low: 13.86711, 24 hour high: 14.32000, 24 hour vwap: 14.10128
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Jan 11 07:19:08 <Anduck>	btw
Jan 11 07:19:30 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 11 07:19:30 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 11 07:19:36 <Bugpowder>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 11 07:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00453297 / 0.00463195 / 0.00476524 (324086 shares, 1,501.15 BTC), 7D: 0.00360676 / 0.00448522 / 0.0048 (2144470 shares, 9,618.43 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00346097 / 0.0048 (14592782 shares, 50,505.19 BTC)
Jan 11 07:20:06 <Bugpowder>	Wake up, check my phone, see that someone bought my shares at 149 and 169
Jan 11 07:20:08 <Bugpowder>	sweet
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Jan 11 07:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1997 @ 0.00466655 = 9.3191 BTC [-]
Jan 11 07:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 459 @ 0.00466431 = 2.1409 BTC [-]
Jan 11 07:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 844 @ 0.00465414 = 3.9281 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 08:12:01 <JWU42>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135921.0
Jan 11 08:13:35 *	fposdkgs is now known as Transisto
Jan 11 08:14:08 <Guest59586>	oops
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Jan 11 08:17:33 <Schadenfreude>	BTC-BOND at 0.03% daily dividend would lean rather on the legit side, right?
Jan 11 08:18:32 <Guest59586>	sure
Jan 11 08:20:57 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135921.0
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Jan 11 08:24:21 <Schadenfreude>	I'm glad I use btct.co
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Jan 11 08:38:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00472478 = 9.6858 BTC [+]
Jan 11 08:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.004765 = 1.1913 BTC [+]
Jan 11 08:41:35 <kakobrekla>	oh lol i see now i was late with hte link
Jan 11 08:41:45 <kakobrekla>	good job jwu ;)
Jan 11 08:42:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2354 @ 0.004765 = 11.2168 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 09:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2500 @ 0.002 = 5 BTC [+]
Jan 11 09:19:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4197 @ 0.004765 = 19.9987 BTC [+]
Jan 11 09:25:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1601 @ 0.00465414 = 7.4513 BTC [-]
Jan 11 09:25:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 453 @ 0.00465387 = 2.1082 BTC [-]
Jan 11 09:34:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Jan 11 09:34:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00453297 / 0.00463505 / 0.00476524 (313570 shares, 1,453.42 BTC), 7D: 0.0037 / 0.00450655 / 0.0048 (2106359 shares, 9,492.43 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00346222 / 0.0048 (14603382 shares, 50,560.13 BTC)
Jan 11 09:37:50 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 11 09:37:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.01001, Best ask: 14.09999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08998, Last trade: 14.00503, 24 hour volume: 47911.39223164, 24 hour low: 13.87150, 24 hour high: 14.32000, 24 hour vwap: 14.10152
Jan 11 09:38:58 <kakobrekla>	>Further update: The system was not breached, no passwords were compromised (they are salted and multiple times hashed anyways). The attacker used a RubyOnRails vulnerability that was released yesterday (http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/24019/) to withdraw the funds therefore.
Jan 11 09:39:05 <kakobrekla>	zomg
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Jan 11 09:48:58 <thestringpuller>	score
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Jan 11 10:06:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 50 @ 0.33 = 16.5 BTC
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Jan 11 10:08:07 <topace>	kakobrekla: hahaha i wondered how many bitcoin related sites would be affectted by that ROR vuln
Jan 11 10:08:29 <topace>	i wonder how stupid the owners could be not to have fixed it immediately
Jan 11 10:08:43 <topace>	i mean, the news of the vulnerability was _everywhere_
Jan 11 10:13:35 <jcpham>	yeah i knew about the ror thing
Jan 11 10:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.004765 = 7.624 BTC [+]
Jan 11 10:13:53 <jcpham>	and was like - whew - no ror sites in production that i manage
Jan 11 10:16:37 <topace>	yea me too
Jan 11 10:16:43 <topace>	i migrated the last one we had to php about a year ago
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Jan 11 10:18:10 <jcpham>	does anyone know how to get a radeon serial number from linux command
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Jan 11 10:20:17 <topace>	lspci -v should give you it
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Jan 11 10:22:04 <topace>	or maybe hwinfo
Jan 11 10:22:11 <jcpham>	lspci -v |grep VGA
Jan 11 10:22:12 <jcpham>	04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cayman PRO [Radeon HD 6950] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Jan 11 10:22:12 <jcpham>	05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 6818 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Jan 11 10:22:12 <jcpham>	0a:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Barts XT [ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
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Jan 11 10:26:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.745 = 2.98 BTC [-]
Jan 11 10:27:58 <JWU_42>	jcpham: you should have received some BTC this morning =)
Jan 11 10:29:26 <Namworld>	Give BTC-BOND some love =/
Jan 11 10:30:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.0097 = 0.485 BTC [-]
Jan 11 10:30:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 163 @ 0.0098 = 1.5974 BTC [+]
Jan 11 10:30:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 150 @ 0.0098 = 1.47 BTC [+]
Jan 11 10:30:41 <JWU_42>	saw the cryptostocks note this morning?
Jan 11 10:31:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 199 @ 0.0099 = 1.9701 BTC [+]
Jan 11 10:31:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.0099 = 0.0396 BTC [+]
Jan 11 10:31:39 <Namworld>	Yeah, saw the cryptostock notice
Jan 11 10:31:42 <kakobrekla>	ooo idiot vs larger idiot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWrmIqGs3Y
Jan 11 10:32:35 *	JWU_42 crosses them off the list of potential homes for YABMC
Jan 11 10:32:37 <JWU_42>	;)
Jan 11 10:33:05 <Namworld>	cryptostock has always looked like... well whatever it looks like.
Jan 11 10:33:23 <JWU_42>	I am not sure I ever looked at their site actuaklly
Jan 11 10:33:55 <Namworld>	go look. Been around a long time and almost no volume
Jan 11 10:34:01 <Namworld>	Except in Devcoin
Jan 11 10:38:16 <kakobrekla>	that video is very hard to watch
Jan 11 10:38:23 <kakobrekla>	my brains hurt.
Jan 11 10:38:49 <JWU_42>	is that the Micon video?
Jan 11 10:39:00 <JWU_42>	ahh
Jan 11 10:39:04 <JWU_42>	sure enough
Jan 11 10:39:06 <kakobrekla>	ya
Jan 11 10:42:08 <Korbman>	yeah
Jan 11 10:43:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 330 @ 0.00474312 = 1.5652 BTC [-]
Jan 11 10:53:56 <topace>	when does s.bbet start trading? and why are the ipo asks listed at 0.02 and greater??
Jan 11 10:56:18 <kakobrekla>	ipo happend 16 hours ago
Jan 11 10:56:42 <kakobrekla>	so, its trading already.
Jan 11 10:57:27 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135834.0
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Jan 11 11:02:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00472352 = 5.1959 BTC [-]
Jan 11 11:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00465387 = 1.3962 BTC [-]
Jan 11 11:05:11 <topace>	o
Jan 11 11:05:21 <topace>	so why did none of the bids get filled?
Jan 11 11:05:32 <topace>	why are the asks so much higher than it says in the summary page?
Jan 11 11:05:58 <kakobrekla>	what do you mean no bids get filled?
Jan 11 11:06:12 <kakobrekla>	they got filled
Jan 11 11:06:41 <topace>	the IPO was supposed to start at 0.00001  there's bids at 0.0008 ?
Jan 11 11:07:25 <kakobrekla>	yeah well each next 10k block from that has a 3% higher price
Jan 11 11:07:32 <kakobrekla>	and 180 blocks went or so
Jan 11 11:07:53 <kakobrekla>	out of 300
Jan 11 11:08:35 <topace>	so what was used to fill the  first 180 blocks? my order at  100`000    0.00012345   didnt
Jan 11 11:09:00 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Jan 11 11:09:03 <kakobrekla>	your bid was too low
Jan 11 11:09:12 <topace>	but it started at 0.00001 ?
Jan 11 11:09:27 <topace>	my bid was 10x the starting ipo price
Jan 11 11:09:57 <kakobrekla>	as far as i can see price didnt go below 0.0006
Jan 11 11:10:33 <topace>	i guess i dont understand how it assigns shares to the ipo then
Jan 11 11:10:53 <kakobrekla>	a wait it did
Jan 11 11:10:57 <kakobrekla>	but not much below that
Jan 11 11:11:08 <kakobrekla>	i dont understand this coinbr chart or its wrong
Jan 11 11:11:17 <topace>	i figured placing a bid 10x the starting price days before it started trading would be enough to get in?
Jan 11 11:11:25 <kakobrekla>	topace, the high bids get filled first
Jan 11 11:11:48 <kakobrekla>	each 10k block costs 3% more than previous
Jan 11 11:11:53 <kakobrekla>	and thats that
Jan 11 11:13:26 <topace>	ohwell
Jan 11 11:13:39 <topace>	i guess not knowing the _time_ that it started was my problem
Jan 11 11:13:46 <topace>	16 hours ago wasnt the 11th for me :p
Jan 11 11:14:00 <kakobrekla>	midnight gmt
Jan 11 11:14:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2170 @ 0.00473038 = 10.2649 BTC [+]
Jan 11 11:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1080 @ 0.004765 = 5.1462 BTC [+]
Jan 11 11:15:46 <Ukto>	man
Jan 11 11:15:52 <Ukto>	havent seen goat/chaang in here in a while now
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Jan 11 11:16:38 <Ukto>	wtf is that cryptostock sannouncement? "New Withdrawals are currently deactivated.
Jan 11 11:16:39 <Ukto>	"
Jan 11 11:16:46 <Ukto>	lovely details on the site
Jan 11 11:16:59 <topace>	RoR vulnerability from 2 days ago
Jan 11 11:17:39 <Ukto>	they loose btc?
Jan 11 11:17:54 <topace>	think so
Jan 11 11:18:11 <Ukto>	what could they have possibly had in their wallet? 50btc and 1,000,000 devcoin ? :P
Jan 11 11:18:17 <Ukto>	sorry, that wasnt nice
Jan 11 11:18:22 <topace>	lol
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Jan 11 11:25:01 <kakobrekla>	ummm
Jan 11 11:25:05 <kakobrekla>	is bitcointalk on ror?
Jan 11 11:25:33 <kakobrekla>	i ask cause its down
Jan 11 11:25:46 <topace>	heh
Jan 11 11:25:53 <topace>	i didnt think it was
Jan 11 11:25:56 <topace>	its up for me
Jan 11 11:26:06 <kakobrekla>	oh?
Jan 11 11:26:10 <kakobrekla>	net issue then
Jan 11 11:26:12 <topace>	its php
Jan 11 11:27:09 <Anduck>	its not
Jan 11 11:27:11 <Anduck>	its coding
Jan 11 11:27:14 <Anduck>	or something else
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Jan 11 11:28:23 <topace>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134684.60;topicseen
Jan 11 11:28:26 <topace>	looks like php
Jan 11 11:28:30 <topace>	index.php
Jan 11 11:28:54 <topace>	yea it uses SMF
Jan 11 11:28:57 <topace>	Simple machines Forum
Jan 11 11:29:02 <topace>	http://www.simplemachines.org/
Jan 11 11:29:10 <Ukto>	bitcointalk goes down from time to dime for abotu 30~60 seconds
Jan 11 11:29:15 <fret>	gigavps is a fucking scammer
Jan 11 11:29:17 <kakobrekla>	is bak nao
Jan 11 11:29:29 <kakobrekla>	or not
Jan 11 11:29:31 <Ukto>	hadnt timed the intervals or checked if its a reglar sched. db clean or something
Jan 11 11:29:33 <gigavps>	hi fret, you called
Jan 11 11:29:40 <Ukto>	its off for me
Jan 11 11:29:47 <Ukto>	seen it last 5 min before
Jan 11 11:29:50 <fret>	yes suck my dick sucker
Jan 11 11:29:50 <gigavps>	fret how can i help you
Jan 11 11:29:53 <Ukto>	..
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Jan 11 11:29:59 <Ukto>	thats not a
Jan 11 11:30:03 <gigavps>	what's wrong fret
Jan 11 11:30:03 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 11 11:30:05 <Ukto>	well...
Jan 11 11:30:09 <Ukto>	that was amusing
Jan 11 11:30:26 <Ukto>	gigavps: I think he likes you.
Jan 11 11:30:35 <Ukto>	your into girls tho right? :P
Jan 11 11:30:43 <gigavps>	i do have a wife
Jan 11 11:30:50 <gigavps>	fret, what is wrong?
Jan 11 11:30:52 <Ukto>	i tell ppl that too
Jan 11 11:30:54 <Ukto>	hes got
Jan 11 11:30:55 <Ukto>	gone
Jan 11 11:30:56 <kakobrekla>	gigavps, he is gone
Jan 11 11:30:56 <Ukto>	logged out
Jan 11 11:31:03 <kakobrekla>	17:29.55 .•• fret ( 5f8d1c39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.141.28.57 ) has quit IRC ( Quit: Page closed )
Jan 11 11:31:08 <gigavps>	whoops, missed that
Jan 11 11:31:17 <Ukto>	") has rage quit IRC"
Jan 11 11:31:18 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 11 11:31:42 <kakobrekla>	Quit: Rage closed
Jan 11 11:31:42 <gigavps>	i can't help people who can't help themselves
Jan 11 11:34:28 <gigavps>	i think the forums rage quit also
Jan 11 11:34:42 <Ukto>	yeah we were jsut discussing
Jan 11 11:34:45 <Ukto>	they do that from time to time
Jan 11 11:35:32 <kakobrekla>	browse bitbet.us in the meantime
Jan 11 11:35:33 <kakobrekla>	its up
Jan 11 11:35:45 <gigavps>	lol
Jan 11 11:36:02 <Ukto>	were you sitting spamming f5? :P
Jan 11 11:36:37 <Ukto>	still getting timeout here
Jan 11 11:38:35 <kakobrekla>	no
Jan 11 11:38:39 <kakobrekla>	the bitbet is up
Jan 11 11:38:39 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 11 11:38:43 <kakobrekla>	fuck the forums
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Jan 11 11:47:33 <zerokwel>	site soo slow
Jan 11 11:47:46 <zerokwel>	wonder if dank is still with us :)
Jan 11 11:48:45 <Schadenfreude>	He's probably busing organizing that music festival...
Jan 11 11:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Jan 11 11:53:49 <Ukto>	anyone have experince with LR?
Jan 11 11:55:23 <EskimoBob>	LR?
Jan 11 11:55:37 <Ukto>	liberty reserve
Jan 11 11:55:52 <Ukto>	i have to do some investigations on it
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Jan 11 11:56:00 <EskimoBob>	none
Jan 11 11:56:01 <Ukto>	informations collecting
Jan 11 11:56:20 <EskimoBob>	I think it's US only
Jan 11 11:56:37 <kakobrekla>	i thoought it was askin bout LingeRie
Jan 11 11:56:40 <kakobrekla>	he*
Jan 11 11:57:17 <Ukto>	-_-
Jan 11 11:57:27 <Ukto>	apparently you got someting on your mind
Jan 11 11:57:32 <Ukto>	prolly dont wanna know about. :P
Jan 11 11:57:38 <EskimoBob>	LOL http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/k9l5-6-1679.jpg BFL is a good source of humor
Jan 11 11:58:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1916 @ 0.00465387 = 8.9168 BTC [-]
Jan 11 11:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1458 @ 0.0046201 = 6.7361 BTC [-]
Jan 11 11:58:09 <kakobrekla>	not bad
Jan 11 11:58:11 <Namworld>	fun
Jan 11 11:58:34 <Namworld>	what's up with GSDPT?
Jan 11 11:58:52 <Namworld>	or Havelock's SDICE
Jan 11 11:59:03 <Namworld>	why are people not using coinbr?
Jan 11 11:59:13 <kakobrekla>	why why why is the world round
Jan 11 11:59:44 <EskimoBob>	why bother if you can buy it from most exchanges and can avoid dealing with mpex
Jan 11 12:00:20 <Namworld>	I suggested coinbr, which is a direct MPEx buy/sell accounts.
Jan 11 12:00:41 <Namworld>	it acts as a broker making transactions directly on MPEx
Jan 11 12:01:02 <Namworld>	Which is not direct dealing but is cheaper than passthroughs
Jan 11 12:01:13 <EskimoBob>	brokers suck like bankers
Jan 11 12:01:32 <kakobrekla>	and passthrough is better how?
Jan 11 12:01:44 <EskimoBob>	but you are correct, PT's are expensive
Jan 11 12:02:21 <Namworld>	I prefer dealing directly on MPEx
Jan 11 12:04:15 <EskimoBob>	"I am not going to sign up to that horribly overpriced bazaar run by pompous gypsy"
Jan 11 12:05:29 <EskimoBob>	so fuck him and his bazaar and that retarded PR chick that posts his shit to bitcointalk
Jan 11 12:06:54 <Korbman>	lol
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Jan 11 12:09:12 <Namworld>	Well I do find MPEx's PR girl's aggressivity unnecessary.
Jan 11 12:11:40 <Namworld>	I do love that deposit/withdrawals have to be manually processed from an offline wallet tho.
Jan 11 12:13:26 <Schadenfreude>	The fee of about 300 euros or $400 is pretty off-putting for somebody who is not willing to risk at least a couple k
Jan 11 12:14:24 <kakobrekla>	you dont see hobby investors on nyse
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Jan 11 12:15:30 <Namworld>	Ah, well mircea insisted that MPEx was modeled after a stock exchange, not a stock broker.
Jan 11 12:15:46 <Namworld>	And that an account require a substantial fee.
Jan 11 12:16:44 <Namworld>	Or the equivalent of a seat
Jan 11 12:17:10 <Namworld>	Broking shares was left to such holders interacting with MPEx
Jan 11 12:17:10 <Schadenfreude>	It's supposed to cater to a certain group of people by making it expensive and difficult to use
Jan 11 12:17:25 <kakobrekla>	its not difficult
Jan 11 12:17:27 <kakobrekla>	its safe
Jan 11 12:17:38 <Namworld>	Well, technically, an account holder can open a brokerage website like coinbr
Jan 11 12:17:41 <Korbman>	Right...getting a seat at the NYSE for example costs a ton of cash. But it's also a prestigious place to be listed
Jan 11 12:17:49 <Namworld>	for regular users
Jan 11 12:17:51 <Korbman>	MPEx, however, is faaaarrr from prestigious
Jan 11 12:18:04 <Namworld>	And the seat currently costs almost nothing
Jan 11 12:18:27 <Namworld>	the NYSE seats weren't that high priced long ago =/
Jan 11 12:18:47 <Namworld>	MPEx has been growing and mircea is increasing the fee every now and then
Jan 11 12:19:25 <Schadenfreude>	Namworld, what is your opinion on the ESECURITYSABTC bond? 1.3%/week seems ponzish
Jan 11 12:21:00 <Korbman>	in '05 seats were a high $3.5 million ..up from about $1 million that very same year haha
Jan 11 12:21:28 <Namworld>	Well the owner has a web hosting co apparently. And it funds the purchase of servers.
Jan 11 12:21:48 <Namworld>	Colocated servers can save a lot of money monthly over rented.
Jan 11 12:22:12 <Schadenfreude>	That's at least partly verified, I agree, but why pay over 70% per year for a loan?
Jan 11 12:22:12 <kakobrekla>	not really
Jan 11 12:22:37 <Namworld>	kakobrekla, how so?
Jan 11 12:23:01 <kakobrekla>	lets see, i had x3650 2u in a colo for 3 years
Jan 11 12:23:18 <kakobrekla>	now i pay for root server rented hw same amount, with much better specs
Jan 11 12:23:23 <kakobrekla>	hw included
Jan 11 12:23:30 <kakobrekla>	hw replacements
Jan 11 12:23:31 <kakobrekla>	ofc
Jan 11 12:23:33 <kakobrekla>	etc
Jan 11 12:24:00 <Namworld>	Well that's odd.
Jan 11 12:25:12 <kakobrekla>	http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix-ex
Jan 11 12:25:33 <kakobrekla>	+flexi pack for extra ips and somesouch
Jan 11 12:25:51 <Schadenfreude>	Also, he seems to have only acquired about 5k of the target 25k while theoretically paying top dividends
Jan 11 12:26:00 <Schadenfreude>	Investors must smell something is fishy
Jan 11 12:26:33 <Namworld>	Those are sweet
Jan 11 12:27:24 <EskimoBob>	Schadenfreude: who?
Jan 11 12:29:18 <Namworld>	5k USD is enough for 2-3 good servers
Jan 11 12:29:49 <kakobrekla>	its not work to have your own server in 90% cases
Jan 11 12:29:51 <kakobrekla>	better to rent hw
Jan 11 12:29:56 <kakobrekla>	worth*
Jan 11 12:30:01 <kakobrekla>	sry still half asleep
Jan 11 12:30:28 <Schadenfreude>	It's evening in Europe
Jan 11 12:30:36 <kakobrekla>	i was up late.
Jan 11 12:31:22 <kakobrekla>	anyway amonth or so ago, i gave that server to a friend
Jan 11 12:31:26 <kakobrekla>	hard to sell that old hw
Jan 11 12:31:40 <kakobrekla>	was a pefectly good ibm with xeons and sas drives
Jan 11 12:31:50 <Namworld>	you can get a full rack for under 1000$
Jan 11 12:32:05 <kakobrekla>	ya its cheap but rarely worth to own
Jan 11 12:32:13 <Namworld>	that's around 20$/u =/
Jan 11 12:32:33 <kakobrekla>	plus you gotta take care of the hw
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Jan 11 12:32:50 <Namworld>	Yeah, but good servers are too expensive to rent monthly
Jan 11 12:32:56 <kakobrekla>	one hdd failed in my hetzner, they replaced it in a few hours
Jan 11 12:33:17 <kakobrekla>	also network is great
Jan 11 12:33:32 <kakobrekla>	really never been so pleased with hosting
Jan 11 12:33:33 <Namworld>	We offer VPSes... we can't get those cheap servers. The SATA disk in them for example.
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Jan 11 12:33:52 <Namworld>	Replace them with 10k or 15k rpm SAS
Jan 11 12:34:02 <Namworld>	and just that boosts the monthly costs a lot.
Jan 11 12:34:11 <kakobrekla>	you can do custom if you want
Jan 11 12:34:29 <kakobrekla>	also
Jan 11 12:34:30 <kakobrekla>	https://robot.your-server.de/order/market
Jan 11 12:34:33 <Namworld>	Yeah, but then you get to 200-400$ per month per server for similar specs
Jan 11 12:34:57 <Namworld>	vs 20$ per month for 1U colo
Jan 11 12:35:25 <Namworld>	A server has an initial cost but pays itself within a year.
Jan 11 12:35:47 <kakobrekla>	ya well another thing to worry about - hw
Jan 11 12:35:53 <kakobrekla>	instead of focusing on the service :)
Jan 11 12:36:05 <Namworld>	With backups and live migration of VMs to other servers, that's not an issue.
Jan 11 12:36:13 <Namworld>	If a server fail
Jan 11 12:36:22 <kakobrekla>	but you need to get new hw
Jan 11 12:36:26 <kakobrekla>	and get it replaced
Jan 11 12:36:28 <kakobrekla>	etc etc
Jan 11 12:36:32 <kakobrekla>	and worry about that
Jan 11 12:36:46 <Namworld>	It's still less costly, especially with warranty on servers
Jan 11 12:36:54 <Namworld>	and hw
Jan 11 12:37:10 <Namworld>	If you're in the vinicity of the Datacenter, just fetching the server to replace hw is cost effective.
Jan 11 12:37:18 <kakobrekla>	k, my math was clear to me for my case that it doesnt make sense to own hw
Jan 11 12:37:34 <kakobrekla>	no benefits
Jan 11 12:37:52 <Namworld>	Depends on what grade of hw you need.
Jan 11 12:37:58 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 11 12:38:08 <kakobrekla>	my uptime on ibm was 3 years
Jan 11 12:39:09 <Namworld>	I'm not talking about uptime, just speed alone =/
Jan 11 12:39:19 <kakobrekla>	what does the grade have to do with speed
Jan 11 12:39:28 <kakobrekla>	you put in sas and you are done
Jan 11 12:39:30 <kakobrekla>	or a ssd
Jan 11 12:39:57 <kakobrekla>	but hell
Jan 11 12:40:04 <kakobrekla>	even these new sata drives
Jan 11 12:40:07 <kakobrekla>	3tb and above
Jan 11 12:40:11 <kakobrekla>	have amazing speeds
Jan 11 12:40:50 <JWU_42>	uh huh
Jan 11 12:40:56 <JWU_42>	aerial density FTW
Jan 11 12:40:59 <kakobrekla>	beats the old scsi interface
Jan 11 12:41:38 <kakobrekla>	i had a 15k sas drives at home
Jan 11 12:41:55 <kakobrekla>	and they werent anyhing special except for the noise levels
Jan 11 12:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2042 @ 0.0046201 = 9.4342 BTC [-]
Jan 11 12:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 917 @ 0.00460859 = 4.2261 BTC [-]
Jan 11 12:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 841 @ 0.00456242 = 3.837 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 12:46:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 799 @ 0.00468165 = 3.7406 BTC [+]
Jan 11 12:46:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1101 @ 0.004765 = 5.2463 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 12:48:23 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 11 12:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000337 / 0.00067662 / 0.0035 (1986093 shares, 1,343.84 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00067662 / 0.0035 (1986093 shares, 1,343.84 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00067662 / 0.0035 (1986093 shares, 1,343.84 BTC)
Jan 11 12:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	awww, no collapse ?
Jan 11 12:49:10 <Namworld>	nope
Jan 11 12:52:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 12:59:31 <mircea_popescu>	well honestly fuck this, i didn't even get to buy shares
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Jan 11 13:06:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.72 = 1.44 BTC [-]
Jan 11 13:06:30 <Anduck>	why people try to make those ID's so COOL ???
Jan 11 13:06:32 <Anduck>	"cool"
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Jan 11 13:09:43 <Namworld>	mircea_popescu: whut? eheh
Jan 11 13:10:02 <Namworld>	Wanted to buy yourself a personal stack of your own stock?
Jan 11 13:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	well sure.
Jan 11 13:10:23 <Namworld>	Fine enough
Jan 11 13:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	i just wasn't prepared for 60s
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Jan 11 13:12:17 <Namworld>	thought it wouldn't raise to that point so fast? I didn't either =/
Jan 11 13:13:08 <Namworld>	I thought people would buy more progressively as BitBet shows it can bring a cashflow.
Jan 11 13:13:27 <Namworld>	Too many orders coming in last moment
Jan 11 13:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	right.
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Jan 11 13:13:47 <Namworld>	Literally last minute =/
Jan 11 13:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00463951 = 4.1756 BTC [-]
Jan 11 13:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	or second
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Jan 11 13:18:43 <Bugpowder>	Or after the last second
Jan 11 13:18:54 <Bugpowder>	while the blocks were still popping off
Jan 11 13:19:08 <Bugpowder>	Sold some at 200000 now ;)
Jan 11 13:19:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3850 @ 0.004765 = 18.3453 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:20:04 <Bugpowder>	I wonder how much of this is that there is more capital available than viable securities to invest in...
Jan 11 13:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder blocks came up +1 seconds each
Jan 11 13:21:22 <Bugpowder>	yes
Jan 11 13:21:22 <mircea_popescu>	not same second as i erroneously indicated at the time
Jan 11 13:21:28 <Bugpowder>	I got ur message
Jan 11 13:21:35 <Bugpowder>	I saw it
Jan 11 13:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Jan 11 13:21:44 <Bugpowder>	and placed a buy order for up to 100000
Jan 11 13:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	so yeah. this quite deliberately actually
Jan 11 13:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	to allow for the exact sort of thing
Jan 11 13:21:53 <Bugpowder>	yeah its better that way actaully
Jan 11 13:21:54 <mircea_popescu>	then i promptly forgot all about it
Jan 11 13:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	i know lol
Jan 11 13:21:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 21998 @ 0.004765 = 104.8205 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:21:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1073 @ 0.00476524 = 5.1131 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:21:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00476551 = 10.0076 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 508 @ 0.00476576 = 2.421 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:01 <Bugpowder>	wow
Jan 11 13:22:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 265 @ 0.00476624 = 1.2631 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1349 @ 0.00476669 = 6.4303 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 626 @ 0.0047679 = 2.9847 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.0047681 = 5.2449 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5650 @ 0.00476816 = 26.9401 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00477036 = 12.4029 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.0047705 = 5.4861 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00477212 = 3.5791 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.0047744 = 9.7875 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2108 @ 0.00477495 = 10.0656 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	o hey some movement
Jan 11 13:22:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00477596 = 7.6415 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00477701 = 7.8821 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6150 @ 0.00477767 = 29.3827 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00477977 = 13.8613 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.00478012 = 12.9063 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00478558 = 5.0249 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00478566 = 7.4178 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00478655 = 1.9146 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00478722 = 5.0266 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00478844 = 6.7038 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.0047894 = 13.8893 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 352 @ 0.00478999 = 1.6861 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00479245 = 11.5019 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00479292 = 13.4202 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1371 @ 0.00479303 = 6.5712 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00479344 = 10.5456 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:28 <Bugpowder>	will the 480000 go?
Jan 11 13:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 609 @ 0.00479569 = 2.9206 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00479729 = 0.7196 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 77441 @ 0.0048 = 371.7168 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:22:36 <Namworld>	nope
Jan 11 13:22:36 <Bugpowder>	not bad
Jan 11 13:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	part of them
Jan 11 13:23:02 <Bugpowder>	I picked the wrong morning to reduce S.DICE exposure to 1000 coins :-P
Jan 11 13:23:08 <Bugpowder>	or maybe the right morning
Jan 11 13:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Jan 11 13:23:26 <Bugpowder>	how much was that?
Jan 11 13:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	like 500 ?
Jan 11 13:23:37 <Bugpowder>	800
Jan 11 13:23:38 <Bugpowder>	maybe
Jan 11 13:24:06 <Bugpowder>	about 750
Jan 11 13:24:07 <Bugpowder>	looks like
Jan 11 13:24:11 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Jan 11 13:24:32 <Bugpowder>	!ticker S.DICE
Jan 11 13:24:33 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 11 13:24:39 <Bugpowder>	!ticker MPEX S.DICE
Jan 11 13:24:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00453297 / 0.00470258 / 0.0048 (383687 shares, 1,804.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00382726 / 0.00464745 / 0.0048 (1905911 shares, 8,857.63 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00347773 / 0.0048 (14777786 shares, 51,393.26 BTC)
Jan 11 13:24:46 <Bugpowder>	!ticker MPEX S.BBET
Jan 11 13:24:47 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000337 / 0.00067662 / 0.0035 (1986093 shares, 1,343.84 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00067662 / 0.0035 (1986093 shares, 1,343.84 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00067662 / 0.0035 (1986093 shares, 1,343.84 BTC)
Jan 11 13:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	you can do
Jan 11 13:25:41 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 11 13:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000337 / 0.00067662 / 0.0035 (1986093 shares, 1,343.84 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00067662 / 0.0035 (1986093 shares, 1,343.84 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00067662 / 0.0035 (1986093 shares, 1,343.84 BTC)
Jan 11 13:25:46 <Bugpowder>	ah
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Jan 11 13:30:30 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 11 13:30:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.18263, Best ask: 14.23000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04737, Last trade: 14.18263, 24 hour volume: 36797.61600636, 24 hour low: 13.87150, 24 hour high: 14.29999, 24 hour vwap: 14.09426
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Jan 11 13:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	so over 14
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Jan 11 13:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.002 = 2 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:50:04 <Namworld>	Too damn expansive...
Jan 11 13:50:11 <Namworld>	expensive*
Jan 11 13:50:23 <Namworld>	well, both are appropriate I guess...
Jan 11 13:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 3000 @ 0.002 = 6 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:52:20 <Bugpowder>	!ticker MPEX S.BBET
Jan 11 13:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00472828 = 8.7473 BTC [-]
Jan 11 13:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.000337 / 0.00067928 / 0.0035 (1990093 shares, 1,351.84 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00067928 / 0.0035 (1990093 shares, 1,351.84 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00067928 / 0.0035 (1990093 shares, 1,351.84 BTC)
Jan 11 13:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2821 @ 0.00470237 = 13.2654 BTC [-]
Jan 11 13:54:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.002 = 2 BTC [+]
Jan 11 13:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	so did btcforum go away ?
Jan 11 13:56:16 <Namworld>	0.002 values BitBet at 20 000 BTC
Jan 11 13:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Jan 11 13:57:46 <Anduck>	yeah
Jan 11 13:57:51 <Anduck>	_sick stupid_
Jan 11 13:58:00 <Namworld>	To get that on 1% fee, it would require 2 000 000 in bets. I'd have though people would wait to get more reports/info on advertising revenue and other variables.
Jan 11 13:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	dude lay off. there's no start-up in this world valued under 1mn
Jan 11 13:58:11 <mircea_popescu>	20k btc is way under that. 75% discount or some shit.
Jan 11 13:58:34 <mircea_popescu>	go tell me about airbnb instead
Jan 11 13:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	what, just because this is a public venue and graham does his shit behind closed doors i have to be stuck with all the unwashed public ?!
Jan 11 13:59:21 <Namworld>	The first block for 0.00001 or 100 BTC valuation was underpriced.
Jan 11 13:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	seems that way.
Jan 11 13:59:47 <Namworld>	But people overbought BBET at 0.002 BTC
Jan 11 13:59:50 <Bugpowder>	that block sold for at least 55000
Jan 11 13:59:55 <Bugpowder>	maybe higher
Jan 11 14:00:01 <mircea_popescu>	35000 i think
Jan 11 14:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00464742 = 10.2243 BTC [-]
Jan 11 14:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00456242 = 4.3343 BTC [-]
Jan 11 14:00:36 <Namworld>	Even when accounting potential growth, it's high as heck.
Jan 11 14:00:38 <Bugpowder>	Namworld correction, people are RIGHT NOW "overbuying" at 0.002
Jan 11 14:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	so, the part where the 1k block was undervalued is a fact : it sold for 35x that.
Jan 11 14:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	the part where people overbought is speculation
Jan 11 14:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	i thought they overbought yest at 150
Jan 11 14:01:07 <Bugpowder>	the first block sold for 35??
Jan 11 14:01:12 <Namworld>	Well 35x that was nicely priced in my opinion. 3500 BTC valuation.
Jan 11 14:01:18 <Bugpowder>	high bid was at least 55000 at the open
Jan 11 14:01:23 <mircea_popescu>	well would have had to Bugpowder seeing how there's no sales under 35 on record ?
Jan 11 14:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	o right you are.
Jan 11 14:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	i was just going by the min/max
Jan 11 14:01:49 <Bugpowder>	I think someone placed an even higher one right before the open
Jan 11 14:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	but yeah. 55 or something yeah
Jan 11 14:02:00 <Bugpowder>	and it sold though down to 35
Jan 11 14:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 11 14:02:14 <Bugpowder>	I had 1,000,000 at 33000
Jan 11 14:02:16 <Bugpowder>	:(
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Jan 11 14:02:55 <Namworld>	I had 500k just over the 1 million at 27000
Jan 11 14:03:04 <Namworld>	then poof, tons of bids over it
Jan 11 14:03:22 <mircea_popescu>	i had some bids in too, but i never got anything.
Jan 11 14:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	so i guess we're three pods in a piggy.
Jan 11 14:03:44 <Bugpowder>	i'm ok
Jan 11 14:03:53 <Bugpowder>	people keep buying my 200 ask :)
Jan 11 14:04:02 <Bugpowder>	thinking of raising it to 250
Jan 11 14:04:07 <Bugpowder>	before it sells through
Jan 11 14:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	im not so ok seeing how i sold 8% of a company for like 500 btc.
Jan 11 14:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	but a well!
Jan 11 14:04:47 <Bugpowder>	you should have done an angle round first
Jan 11 14:04:51 <Bugpowder>	Class 6
Jan 11 14:05:02 <Bugpowder>	angel
Jan 11 14:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	ya well i wanted to try this thing out.
Jan 11 14:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	figured, well fuck it, these fud idiots will prolly burn it into the ground, i buy it all out and we go from there.
Jan 11 14:05:40 <mircea_popescu>	seems forum != mpex.
Jan 11 14:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	duh, in retrospect.
Jan 11 14:06:30 <Namworld>	so you'd basically pay the price to get 100% on those shares + half of sales proceed...
Jan 11 14:06:51 <Namworld>	and kako gets the other half... or whatever the ratio is.
Jan 11 14:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Jan 11 14:08:47 <mircea_popescu>	Today at 12:24:00 PM	 #1
Jan 11 14:08:47 <mircea_popescu>	We sadly need to announce that our wallet has been compromised thus DO NOT send any further funds to any of the coin wallets, BTC, DVC, LTC, etc. We will setup a new wallet and reset all the addresses. This will most likely take the whole weekend.
Jan 11 14:08:49 <mircea_popescu>	duh
Jan 11 14:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	CRYPTOSTOCKS !!! IMPORTANT
Jan 11 14:09:06 <Bugpowder>	VICUREX
Jan 11 14:09:12 <Bugpowder>	are these the same thing?
Jan 11 14:09:17 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Jan 11 14:09:21 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 11 14:09:22 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 11 14:09:35 <topace>	idiots using ruby on rails
Jan 11 14:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	jesus fuck the warnings were all over the place
Jan 11 14:10:06 <topace>	"i dont know how to make a site, so ill quick prototype a site with ror and then launch it live"
Jan 11 14:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	even send the girl to warn those bitcoinica redux idiot
Jan 11 14:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	s
Jan 11 14:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	didn't want to carpetbomb everyone.
Jan 11 14:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	"o no, why is MPEx not more like modern!!1" pssshhhh
Jan 11 14:11:40 <JWU_42>	security through obscurity ?
Jan 11 14:11:46 <JWU_42>	=)~
Jan 11 14:11:55 <topace>	security through 1994 web dev skillz
Jan 11 14:12:11 <topace>	err sorry web _design_ skillz
Jan 11 14:12:18 <topace>	i have no problems with the functionality :)
Jan 11 14:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	topace security through not running ANY code that's unread.
Jan 11 14:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	you know ? absolute minimum requirement for any level of security whatsoever,
Jan 11 14:12:51 <mircea_popescu>	"each line of code was read"
Jan 11 14:12:56 <topace>	indeed
Jan 11 14:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Jan 11 14:13:00 <topace>	havelock doesnt use any outside libraries
Jan 11 14:13:04 <topace>	or frameworks
Jan 11 14:13:08 <topace>	its all internal
Jan 11 14:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	well people on ror probably do. i would guess. dunno.
Jan 11 14:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 879 @ 0.00465808 = 4.0945 BTC [+]
Jan 11 14:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they did read it , audited it all etc.
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Jan 11 14:13:41 <JWU_42>	someone said it was a RoR exploit
Jan 11 14:13:50 <JWU_42>	no clue
Jan 11 14:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	JWU_42 ror was blown right wide open 2 days ago.
Jan 11 14:14:31 <topace>	i saw another bitcoin site pop up using drupal and just laughed, just waiting to get hacked, i know cavirtex uses django too, not too sure about its security vulns.. but using any sort of framework tha tother people wrote, and trusting it blindly, is a  _bad_ idea
Jan 11 14:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	to go with the java exploit last year
Jan 11 14:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	(and a new one just announced)
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Jan 11 14:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	topace especially because they wrote it for an entirely different purpose.
Jan 11 14:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	the django devs didn't proceed with "let us write code that shall be used to handle btc payments"
Jan 11 14:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	it was more like "let's write some stuff so all these idiots quit programming in myspace"
Jan 11 14:15:43 <topace>	haha
Jan 11 14:16:27 <JWU_42>	yeah - that is what I heard
Jan 11 14:16:45 <JWU_42>	so not sure if people are guessing based on the RoR news or what
Jan 11 14:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	o you mean re cryptostocks ?
Jan 11 14:17:06 <JWU_42>	yes
Jan 11 14:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. me either. would be nice if the peeps would make more useful posts announcing stuff
Jan 11 14:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	you should read cablepair's stuff sometime. two pages, nothing there.
Jan 11 14:17:44 *	jurov wonders when the obscure stuff coinbr uses gets badmouthed, too :P
Jan 11 14:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	that idiot with the "small majority" what's his name
Jan 11 14:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	at least he explained intelligibly what had happened.
Jan 11 14:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	jurov what obscure stuff  do you use ?
Jan 11 14:19:38 <jurov>	turbogears
Jan 11 14:19:42 <jurov>	http://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/11207/Turbogears.html
Jan 11 14:20:39 <mircea_popescu>	that's the google python thing ?
Jan 11 14:21:34 <jurov>	it's in python but not from google
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Jan 11 14:24:34 <Bugpowder>	"All else equal, having 1% of a company is better than having 0.5%. But the 100th employee at Google did much better than the average venture-backed CEO did in the last decade.  "
Jan 11 14:27:01 <jurov>	btw, PHP had 15 "code execution" type vulns. python 0.
Jan 11 14:27:07 <jurov>	in last 4 years
Jan 11 14:29:09 <jurov>	java had 3
Jan 11 14:29:16 <jurov>	interesting
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Jan 11 14:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder good point there
Jan 11 14:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	jurov php is used about 10`000 more than python for web apps.
Jan 11 14:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	consequently, the figures to compare are 15 with 5000
Jan 11 14:33:21 <mircea_popescu>	which is the average between 0 and 1 multiplied with 10k
Jan 11 14:34:56 <jurov>	10000 times more? sauce?
Jan 11 14:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	no sauce, but you get the idea.
Jan 11 14:36:44 <jurov>	i don't get the idea, sry. in all programming langs popularity reviews py is not so far behind
Jan 11 14:37:18 <mircea_popescu>	crawl the web, count by domain whether it runs py or php
Jan 11 14:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	"popularity reviews", what's that ?
Jan 11 14:37:46 <mircea_popescu>	asking people whether they can name python ? of fucking course they can.
Jan 11 14:40:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.48 = 12 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 14:41:19 <jurov>	php is just so much more visible cause everyone leaves the .php extension visible
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Jan 11 14:42:07 <jurov>	surely someone did the crawl but can't find anything like it
Jan 11 14:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	maybe that's true
Jan 11 14:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	thing is, if pphp extension is visible that is all we need.
Jan 11 14:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	cause you can own php once it's there, makes no diff if used much or not.
Jan 11 14:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, this isn't an indictment of python in any way
Jan 11 14:44:09 <jurov>	TIOBE counts search engine queries, py has 4.173% ,PHP 5.546%.
Jan 11 14:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	just illustrating how risk assesments are carried out.
Jan 11 14:44:43 <mircea_popescu>	how often something is used also matters, simple reported vuln count by itself is meaningless.
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Jan 11 14:45:29 <jurov>	i agree PHP is used much more.
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Jan 11 14:46:04 <jurov>	but from my own experience, python makes it harder to open a gaping hole
Jan 11 14:47:04 <jurov>	php feels like hack on hack
Jan 11 14:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	so then go with python, i see no problem there.
Jan 11 14:47:21 <mircea_popescu>	educated guesses is how we stay afloat.
Jan 11 14:47:59 <jurov>	at least you didn't go with microsoft. cause ITS TEH STANDARD
Jan 11 14:48:02 <jurov>	:D
Jan 11 14:48:10 <mircea_popescu>	me ?! lol
Jan 11 14:50:30 *	jurov eagerly awaits first bitcoin site in ASP.NET or VB.NET
Jan 11 14:51:58 <thestringpuller>	php is unmaintainable
Jan 11 14:52:26 <thestringpuller>	python runs slow
Jan 11 14:52:31 <thestringpuller>	take your pick
Jan 11 14:52:50 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 11 14:52:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.17214, Best ask: 14.21998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04784, Last trade: 14.17214, 24 hour volume: 33873.76920876, 24 hour low: 13.87150, 24 hour high: 14.26133, 24 hour vwap: 14.08706
Jan 11 14:53:45 <jurov>	ah those damn stereotypes
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Jan 11 14:54:51 <jurov>	http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u32/which-programs-are-fastest.php lists php with score 40.89 , py 53.43
Jan 11 14:55:14 <jurov>	not so bad
Jan 11 14:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00471799 = 8.0206 BTC [+]
Jan 11 14:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	that graph shows php to be slightly faster, with a huge berth.
Jan 11 14:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	most php code runs faster than most py code simply because most programmers are idiots.
Jan 11 14:57:58 <jurov>	it not about me wanting to evangelize python
Jan 11 14:58:05 <jurov>	i just wonder - am i the only one who tries to find out some real numbers when talking about programming langs?
Jan 11 14:58:11 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Jan 11 14:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	especially because the topic is so complex real numbers can not be found./
Jan 11 14:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 771 @ 0.00471799 = 3.6376 BTC [+]
Jan 11 14:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 279 @ 0.00456242 = 1.2729 BTC [-]
Jan 11 14:59:14 <jurov>	so we shall stick to vague impressions. i see.
Jan 11 15:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	hey, it worked fine for the past 50 years
Jan 11 15:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	by now it's tradition
Jan 11 15:01:27 <jurov>	haha
Jan 11 15:01:56 <mircea_popescu>	Most Online Today: 1828
Jan 11 15:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	did bitcoin catch some big news or something ?
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Jan 11 15:03:21 <jurov>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=buy%20bitcoins&cmpt=q almost all time high
Jan 11 15:03:35 <jurov>	lol, again my damn numbers
Jan 11 15:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	i think you weigh about the same as a duck.
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Jan 11 15:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=trilema&cmpt=q
Jan 11 15:05:46 <mircea_popescu>	haha cool.
Jan 11 15:07:05 <jurov>	mircea, notice the map
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Jan 11 15:07:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=mpex&cmpt=q
Jan 11 15:07:14 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha!
Jan 11 15:07:18 <mircea_popescu>	SELL OUT!!1
Jan 11 15:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	jurov re bitcoin : of course it's heaviest in yupr :D
Jan 11 15:08:22 <jurov>	no i was talking about trilema
Jan 11 15:08:28 <jurov>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=mircea%20popescu&cmpt=q
Jan 11 15:08:46 <jurov>	what you did in dec 2009?
Jan 11 15:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	launched it.
Jan 11 15:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	no wait that was 31 dec 2008
Jan 11 15:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Jan 11 15:10:26 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea. maybe some political stuff.
Jan 11 15:14:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2364 @ 0.00472325 = 11.1658 BTC [+]
Jan 11 15:15:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.48 = 7.2 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 15:23:57 <chippewa>	mircea_popescu: Hi ,  do you know if there any way to move S.DICE stocks to another mpex account?
Jan 11 15:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	PUSH
Jan 11 15:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	it's documented in the faq.
Jan 11 15:29:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.004583 = 13.2907 BTC [-]
Jan 11 15:33:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 21 @ 0.33 = 6.93 BTC
Jan 11 15:33:36 <Namworld>	mircea, if you look at searched term, most of the searches for MPEx is for another kind of MPEx.
Jan 11 15:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i know, was just poking fun
Jan 11 15:34:33 <Namworld>	So searches for your actually exchange might be on the rise, but represent a fraction of all stuff tagged with the acronym MPEX searched for.
Jan 11 15:34:52 <Namworld>	I wonder how much of those searches are for the actual exchange tho
Jan 11 15:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	i don't tbh
Jan 11 15:35:50 <dub>	;;bc,blocks
Jan 11 15:35:50 <gribble>	216160
Jan 11 15:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,bollocks
Jan 11 15:36:18 <gribble>	Error: "bc,bollocks" is not a valid command.
Jan 11 15:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	sorry, it had to be done.
Jan 11 15:36:22 <dub>	    "blocks" : 187949,
Jan 11 15:36:44 <dub>	bitcoin: a little boy waits
Jan 11 15:42:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00456242 = 7.2999 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 15:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2917 @ 0.00456242 = 13.3086 BTC [-]
Jan 11 15:47:55 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 11 15:47:56 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 2 hours, 25 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ticker
Jan 11 15:49:34 <jcpham>	smickitysmickles
Jan 11 15:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	hey, that's actually a long time for hi,
Jan 11 15:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	him*
Jan 11 15:51:55 <jcpham>	i bet a monster ate him
Jan 11 15:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	ya, aged 2
Jan 11 15:52:18 <jcpham>	probably a flying spaghetti monster if I had to guess
Jan 11 15:52:24 <jcpham>	oh even deadlier
Jan 11 15:53:11 <jcpham>	so i waited 8 months to register some new gpu's
Jan 11 15:53:19 <jcpham>	which had 2 year warranties
Jan 11 15:53:43 <jcpham>	i've had to RMA one and now another card twice
Jan 11 15:53:57 <jcpham>	I'm wondering how long this warranty lasts
Jan 11 15:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	till the end of rma
Jan 11 15:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00456937 = 3.427 BTC [+]
Jan 11 15:56:47 <dub>	I rma'd a few cards before I learned not to run fans >80%
Jan 11 15:57:41 <thestringpuller>	Bitcoin: The Video Game
Jan 11 15:57:44 <dub>	they never even looked at receipts, so used to dishing out new ones
Jan 11 15:57:49 <thestringpuller>	who would buy it?
Jan 11 15:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	if blizzard publishes it, many peopkle.
Jan 11 15:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.48 = 9.6 BTC [-]
Jan 11 15:59:21 <dub>	its like a vidya game with no steam
Jan 11 15:59:56 <dub>	ships by boat in three weeks
Jan 11 16:01:03 <jcpham>	i am steam account without
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Jan 11 16:01:15 <dub>	old school
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Jan 11 16:02:10 <dub>	if steam worked on bitcoin blockchain the next version would be out before the game downloaded
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Jan 11 16:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	if steam used btc i might give it a try.
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Jan 11 16:35:13 <jcpham>	i just used my leftover amazon balance to buy sex toys
Jan 11 16:35:21 <jcpham>	am i ok?
Jan 11 16:35:31 <JWU_42>	sure
Jan 11 16:35:39 <jcpham>	it felt normal
Jan 11 16:35:46 <JWU_42>	if you say so
Jan 11 16:35:52 <dub>	as long as theres a rubber fist
Jan 11 16:36:01 <jcpham>	i almost got that
Jan 11 16:36:06 <jcpham>	i saw the rubber fist
Jan 11 16:36:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00456937 = 6.8541 BTC [+]
Jan 11 16:36:16 <dub>	I bought one
Jan 11 16:36:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00458215 = 4.1239 BTC [+]
Jan 11 16:36:25 <dub>	as a present for my boss
Jan 11 16:36:33 <jcpham>	$100 goes a long way on amazon
Jan 11 16:36:36 <jcpham>	let me tell you
Jan 11 16:36:38 <dub>	cost like $300
Jan 11 16:36:42 <jcpham>	i have a whole box of dildos coming
Jan 11 16:37:20 <dub>	just dont mistake them for your parachute bag
Jan 11 16:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.48 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Jan 11 16:38:06 <dub>	(ref http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1092633/)
Jan 11 16:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00458215 = 4.5822 BTC [+]
Jan 11 16:39:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00458215 = 1.6038 BTC [+]
Jan 11 16:41:54 <jcpham>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWrmIqGs3Y
Jan 11 16:44:26 <dub>	etf is wrong with his phone?
Jan 11 16:44:30 <dub>	wtf*
Jan 11 16:45:03 <dub>	is he shooting that on a nokia?
Jan 11 16:45:58 <jcpham>	micon is numer one troll
Jan 11 16:47:56 <dub>	he's a pretty shit troll tbh
Jan 11 16:48:03 <dub>	also ginger
Jan 11 16:48:53 <dub>	theres really no point in letting gingers live, we should help evolution along and just exterimate them now
Jan 11 16:49:52 <jcpham>	haha
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Jan 11 16:51:41 <topace>	tim minchin - prejudice
Jan 11 16:51:47 <topace>	?
Jan 11 16:51:53 <topace>	oh its quitting time
Jan 11 16:51:55 <topace>	im outta here
Jan 11 16:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> etf is wrong with his phone? << he was ranting about his speen
Jan 11 16:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	cause of that phone
Jan 11 16:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	also, he proposes his anamicon daughter (a ginger ?)
Jan 11 16:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	will lead all of bitcoin
Jan 11 16:58:25 <jcpham>	inaba is pretty ruthless to him
Jan 11 16:58:45 <jcpham>	i'm not sure if i would be nice, depends on what was cut out of the video
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Jan 11 17:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	inaba is teh cornered dog
Jan 11 17:07:58 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 11 17:07:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.25010, Best ask: 14.33899, Bid-ask spread: 0.08889, Last trade: 14.25003, 24 hour volume: 31113.16064086, 24 hour low: 13.91001, 24 hour high: 14.34999, 24 hour vwap: 14.13473
Jan 11 17:08:03 <Bugpowder>	hey-yo!
Jan 11 17:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	o wow.
Jan 11 17:10:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.48 = 4.32 BTC [-]
Jan 11 17:11:30 <Bugpowder>	tankage
Jan 11 17:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	"Epic video on the way.  BFL a total scam, they act exactly as scammers would and I will show you a perfect side-by-side comparison of how a real business would look at CES vs. a total, utter scam."
Jan 11 17:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 11 17:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	should be a bet on how long the bitpay people continue to carry bfl & btcmag
Jan 11 17:17:49 <pigeons>	they are true believers
Jan 11 17:18:10 <Bugpowder>	is that the micon video?
Jan 11 17:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder yeah
Jan 11 17:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons that's how people get taken to the cleanners.
Jan 11 17:18:33 <pigeons>	yes, i've noticed
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Jan 11 17:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Jan 11 17:23:56 <Bugpowder>	huh
Jan 11 17:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Jan 11 17:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	ok, i just blew out my fucking cabling
Jan 11 17:24:18 <Bugpowder>	Micon seems pretty likable IRL.
Jan 11 17:24:27 <mircea_popescu>	i don't trust wireless. consequently all my stuff is wired.
Jan 11 17:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes i nearly kill myself tripping on the shit
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Jan 11 17:37:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1003 @ 0.00456243 = 4.5761 BTC [-]
Jan 11 17:37:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 303 @ 0.00456242 = 1.3824 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 17:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00458215 = 1.6038 BTC [+]
Jan 11 17:40:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 91 @ 0.004583 = 0.4171 BTC [+]
Jan 11 17:40:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 633 @ 0.00465845 = 2.9488 BTC [+]
Jan 11 17:50:36 <Bugpowder>	How the Avalon countdown works....   http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/countdown.png
Jan 11 17:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 11 17:53:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3426 @ 0.00465845 = 15.9598 BTC [+]
Jan 11 17:59:47 <dub>	mircea_popescu: odds are against
Jan 11 18:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	who to the whaT?
Jan 11 18:00:35 <dub>	not sure how it works if mum is similarly afflicted
Jan 11 18:00:48 <dub>	gingervitis is a recessive mutation
Jan 11 18:01:02 <dub>	oslt, soon to be extinct
Jan 11 18:01:17 <dub>	allah be praised
Jan 11 18:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 174 @ 0.00470334 = 0.8184 BTC [+]
Jan 11 18:03:57 <dub>	soul stealing fireboxen
Jan 11 18:04:47 <Bugpowder>	heh someone sold 10k
Jan 11 18:05:07 <dub>	jcpham: I think inaba said it was teh second day in a row he had shown up to troll them and was there last year
Jan 11 18:05:34 *	dub actually unignored inaba to read that thread!
Jan 11 18:07:05 <Bugpowder>	sneaky
Jan 11 18:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00456242 = 4.1062 BTC [-]
Jan 11 18:18:47 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 11 18:18:47 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 4 hours, 56 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ticker
Jan 11 18:18:52 <thestringpuller>	boo
Jan 11 18:20:41 <StarenseN>	hi, can someone explain me the purpose of the bot's orders that sell 0.01 btc to the bid price after each buying ?
Jan 11 18:21:10 <StarenseN>	that lowers the price but i still don't figure out if it's a bullish or bearish purpose
Jan 11 18:21:30 <StarenseN>	on Mtgox BTC/USD
Jan 11 18:22:36 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: convert the bot to cuda and use monte carlo
Jan 11 18:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Jan 11 18:23:47 <StarenseN>	here is a picture
Jan 11 18:23:49 <StarenseN>	http://uppix.net/9/5/4/68906b587e8761bc819afef02b1d1.jpg
Jan 11 18:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	StarenseN it'd seem the bot influences the last sell signal
Jan 11 18:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	some people use it.
Jan 11 18:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	as in, basing deals off the mtgox last.
Jan 11 18:24:36 <StarenseN>	ok but is it bullish (price seems lower to buyers) or bearish purpose (to lower the price each time it's possible) ? i can't figure it out
Jan 11 18:25:13 <StarenseN>	and maybe that technic has a name ?
Jan 11 18:25:50 <pigeons>	it's bearish except when its bullish
Jan 11 18:25:58 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: www.nvidia.com/object/computational_finance.html
Jan 11 18:26:59 <StarenseN>	i'd like to get rid off these ridicult amount of orders that monitor wrongly the price on my software sierra chart, do you think it's possible ?
Jan 11 18:27:06 <mircea_popescu>	StarenseN i don't know tbh.
Jan 11 18:27:29 <StarenseN>	to remove the input of orders @ 0.01btc
Jan 11 18:27:48 <StarenseN>	ok mircea_popescu, good to know
Jan 11 18:27:54 <StarenseN>	that's so dumb
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Jan 11 18:35:44 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu the bitcoin godfather
Jan 11 18:37:50 <jurov>	no, he's the bitcoin's conscience
Jan 11 18:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/preemptive-strike-to-have-on-hand-for-when-butterfly-labs-gets-hauled-off-to-jail-in-corpore/
Jan 11 18:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun.
Jan 11 18:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	speak of teh wolf.
Jan 11 19:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00456242 = 5.2468 BTC [-]
Jan 11 19:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00063367 = 2.2495 BTC [-]
Jan 11 19:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6767 @ 0.00063471 = 4.2951 BTC [+]
Jan 11 19:13:54 <jurov>	I consider to reply to this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.msg1448498#msg1448498
Jan 11 19:14:12 <jurov>	"Since MPEx discountinued withdrawals, I do what I can."
Jan 11 19:14:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 512 @ 0.00456242 = 2.336 BTC [-]
Jan 11 19:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lmao
Jan 11 19:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00458146 = 8.0176 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 19:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135952.0 might interest you
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Jan 11 20:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 479 @ 0.00456242 = 2.1854 BTC [-]
Jan 11 20:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 221 @ 0.00456241 = 1.0083 BTC [-]
Jan 11 20:04:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5243 @ 0.00063471 = 3.3278 BTC [+]
Jan 11 20:04:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00063774 = 3.5076 BTC [+]
Jan 11 20:06:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00458146 = 5.4978 BTC [+]
Jan 11 20:09:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1129 @ 0.00456241 = 5.151 BTC [-]
Jan 11 20:09:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1571 @ 0.00455779 = 7.1603 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 20:26:09 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mod6
Jan 11 20:26:10 <gribble>	mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 9 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <mod6> or end up featured in another trilima article
Jan 11 20:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00455779 = 1.8231 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 20:42:55 <thestringpuller>	any lawyers up in heeere
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Jan 11 20:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	I was originally dead set against bitfunder, and planned to claim my shares at btct. the more I see look at each one, i see that btct is a bunch of drama.
Jan 11 20:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	all over the place people using it to post msgs against each other, vote each other. first I was checking the website alot, to see what was there. then as things grew, so did the drama, I got tired of trying to use the votes as a usefull reference. almost all traded assets have some kind of negative mark, mud slung in their face, and its like getting opinionated scammer votes to me.
Jan 11 20:49:41 <mircea_popescu>	teh crowdsourcing of finance has its limits.
Jan 11 21:07:52 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: do any of the stocks on MPEx have voting rights?
Jan 11 21:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 252 @ 0.00455779 = 1.1486 BTC [-]
Jan 11 21:15:07 <jcpham>	So BFL and youtube videos...
Jan 11 21:15:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1802 @ 0.00063395 = 1.1424 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 21:17:42 <JWU42>	jcpham: heh
Jan 11 21:17:57 <jcpham>	I watched it
Jan 11 21:18:18 <jcpham>	I'm thinking surely someone must've known it was micon
Jan 11 21:18:31 <jcpham>	Otherwise facepalm
Jan 11 21:18:42 <jcpham>	Massive unmitigated facepalm
Jan 11 21:25:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1267 @ 0.00455779 = 5.7747 BTC [-]
Jan 11 21:25:42 <mircea_popescu>	anyone here saw reds ?
Jan 11 21:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	keaton/beatty
Jan 11 21:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller no.
Jan 11 21:31:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2391 @ 0.00455779 = 10.8977 BTC [-]
Jan 11 21:31:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2309 @ 0.00455778 = 10.5239 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 21:41:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00457666 = 4.5767 BTC [+]
Jan 11 21:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 941 @ 0.00455778 = 4.2889 BTC [-]
Jan 11 21:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 753 @ 0.00455121 = 3.4271 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 21:53:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 50 @ 0.1432 = 7.16 BTC [-]
Jan 11 21:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 197 @ 0.00455121 = 0.8966 BTC [-]
Jan 11 21:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 503 @ 0.00454943 = 2.2884 BTC [-]
Jan 11 21:58:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 509 @ 0.00455183 = 2.3169 BTC [+]
Jan 11 21:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 541 @ 0.00457666 = 2.476 BTC [+]
Jan 11 21:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 232 @ 0.00457666 = 1.0618 BTC [+]
Jan 11 21:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 526 @ 0.00458146 = 2.4098 BTC [+]
Jan 11 22:02:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00065179 = 1.3362 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 22:09:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 429 @ 0.00460966 = 1.9775 BTC [+]
Jan 11 22:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 617 @ 0.00462397 = 2.853 BTC [+]
Jan 11 22:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00462397 = 2.0808 BTC [+]
Jan 11 22:22:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.999 BTC [-]
Jan 11 22:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Jan 11 22:24:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 305 @ 0.00459284 = 1.4008 BTC [-]
Jan 11 22:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder : http://bitbet.us/bet/96/mpex-s-dice-price-ranges-0-00485-0-0045/ adjustable end weight.
Jan 11 22:25:59 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 11 22:31:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
Jan 11 22:36:46 <JWU42>	;;tslb
Jan 11 22:36:53 <gribble>	Time since last block: 37 minutes and 1 second
Jan 11 22:38:48 <Guest4557>	yay
Jan 11 22:40:51 *	Guest4557 is now known as Bugpowder_
Jan 11 22:41:48 <Bugpowder_>	poke the eyeball.  jeeeze http://bitbet.us/bet/94/sonny-vleisides-indicted-in-the-us/
Jan 11 22:46:43 <Bugpowder_>	mircea_popescu Awesome!  Can't wait to throw up some serious coin on the next round.  Maybe we will get some real sports bettors going now
Jan 11 22:49:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 387 @ 0.00459284 = 1.7774 BTC [-]
Jan 11 22:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1413 @ 0.00456449 = 6.4496 BTC [-]
Jan 11 22:54:48 <Bugpowder_>	;;bc;stats
Jan 11 22:54:49 <gribble>	Error: "bc;stats" is not a valid command.
Jan 11 22:54:54 <Bugpowder_>	;;bc
Jan 11 22:54:54 <gribble>	Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
Jan 11 22:55:02 <Bugpowder_>	;;blarch
Jan 11 22:55:02 <gribble>	Error: "blarch" is not a valid command.
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Jan 11 23:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [-]
Jan 11 23:05:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00456449 = 4.108 BTC [-]
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Jan 11 23:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 473 @ 0.00462397 = 2.1871 BTC [+]
Jan 11 23:19:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1427 @ 0.00462511 = 6.6 BTC [+]
Jan 11 23:20:35 *	Ukto yawns
Jan 11 23:20:44 <Ukto>	morning
Jan 11 23:20:50 <Ukto>	whats all this about CES ?
Jan 11 23:21:15 <Ukto>	i saw a random comment that josh@bfl showed up at CED with a couple android devices and a box of fans. x.x
Jan 11 23:21:22 <Ukto>	CES even
Jan 11 23:21:42 <kakobrekla>	you are not suppose to say that!
Jan 11 23:21:51 <Ukto>	0o,
Jan 11 23:21:53 <Ukto>	0,o
Jan 11 23:22:10 <Ukto>	wtf did I miss? lol
Jan 11 23:22:20 <kakobrekla>	you cant say its just a box of fans ya know
Jan 11 23:22:27 <Ukto>	i dont know anyhting
Jan 11 23:22:29 <kakobrekla>	even if it is
Jan 11 23:22:30 <Ukto>	just saw someones comment
Jan 11 23:22:32 <kakobrekla>	just.
Jan 11 23:22:34 <kakobrekla>	cant.
Jan 11 23:22:52 <Ukto>	what, did he show up with a unit, witih fans, and no board?
Jan 11 23:22:52 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 11 23:23:16 <kakobrekla>	yes
Jan 11 23:23:23 <kakobrekla>	and then micon tried to troll him
Jan 11 23:23:27 <kakobrekla>	and they both failed hard
Jan 11 23:23:35 <kakobrekla>	that video.. embarasing and hard to watch
Jan 11 23:23:36 <kakobrekla>	;>
Jan 11 23:23:44 <Ukto>	video?
Jan 11 23:23:45 <Ukto>	wait, n/m
Jan 11 23:23:47 <Ukto>	i dont really care
Jan 11 23:23:54 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Jan 11 23:24:08 <kakobrekla>	well you asked i told.
Jan 11 23:25:09 <Ukto>	yeh good enough then hehe
Jan 11 23:25:22 *	Ukto scratches off BFL ascis for jan
Jan 11 23:26:04 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Jan 11 23:26:12 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 11 23:26:16 <Ukto>	gj on the site. :)
Jan 11 23:26:18 <Ukto>	nice success
Jan 11 23:26:23 <kakobrekla>	thanks ;)
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Jan 11 23:26:43 <Ukto>	i have a petty big card up my sleave atm
Jan 11 23:26:50 <Ukto>	hoping to pull it on everyone in about a week
Jan 11 23:27:04 <Ukto>	tat wil make ppl flip with impressiveness. :P
Jan 11 23:27:39 <Ukto>	might even be beneficial to you
Jan 11 23:27:42 <kakobrekla>	what about
Jan 11 23:27:45 <Ukto>	pm
Jan 11 23:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 787 @ 0.00456449 = 3.5923 BTC [-]
Jan 11 23:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 875 @ 0.00456032 = 3.9903 BTC [-]
Jan 11 23:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 320 @ 0.00456032 = 1.4593 BTC [-]
Jan 11 23:32:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00462511 = 2.3126 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 23:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 855 @ 0.00462511 = 3.9545 BTC [+]
Jan 11 23:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1045 @ 0.00465713 = 4.8667 BTC [+]
Jan 11 23:44:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 367 @ 0.00465713 = 1.7092 BTC [+]
Jan 11 23:44:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 360 @ 0.00465881 = 1.6772 BTC [+]
Jan 11 23:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 884 @ 0.00465881 = 4.1184 BTC [+]
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Jan 11 23:50:34 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: ...........
Jan 11 23:53:29 <Ukto>	wasup :)
Jan 11 23:53:35 <Ukto>	i havent had a chance to play to disc 2 yet
Jan 11 23:53:36 <Ukto>	lol
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Jan 12 00:06:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 105 @ 0.00456032 = 0.4788 BTC [-]
Jan 12 00:06:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 245 @ 0.00454943 = 1.1146 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 00:09:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1687 @ 0.00454943 = 7.6749 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 00:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1615 @ 0.0045661 = 7.3743 BTC [+]
Jan 12 00:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.48 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Jan 12 00:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 266 @ 0.0045661 = 1.2146 BTC [+]
Jan 12 00:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 356 @ 0.00465881 = 1.6585 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 00:52:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00065179 = 1.9228 BTC [+]
Jan 12 00:52:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.0006518 = 6.7135 BTC [+]
Jan 12 01:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1259 @ 0.00467034 = 5.88 BTC [+]
Jan 12 01:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 541 @ 0.00468259 = 2.5333 BTC [+]
Jan 12 01:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00465503 = 4.655 BTC [-]
Jan 12 01:12:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00463405 = 3.4755 BTC [-]
Jan 12 01:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00468259 = 3.7461 BTC [+]
Jan 12 01:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 315 @ 0.00468259 = 1.475 BTC [+]
Jan 12 01:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 104 @ 0.00468676 = 0.4874 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 01:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Jan 12 01:54:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.48 = 19.2 BTC [-]
Jan 12 01:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00065304 = 6.9549 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 02:01:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00463405 = 4.8658 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 02:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00463406 = 2.317 BTC [+]
Jan 12 02:17:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00463405 = 3.2438 BTC [-]
Jan 12 02:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00462783 = 0.6942 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 02:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00468383 = 2.1077 BTC [+]
Jan 12 02:36:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 226 @ 0.00462783 = 1.0459 BTC [-]
Jan 12 02:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 224 @ 0.00460126 = 1.0307 BTC [-]
Jan 12 02:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00468383 = 0.7026 BTC [+]
Jan 12 02:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00468385 = 7.4942 BTC [+]
Jan 12 02:42:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00468676 = 0.2343 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 02:45:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 593 @ 0.00468676 = 2.7792 BTC [+]
Jan 12 02:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00065304 = 3.3305 BTC [+]
Jan 12 02:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00064675 = 6.5969 BTC [-]
Jan 12 02:53:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00064537 = 4.7757 BTC [-]
Jan 12 02:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 253 @ 0.00468676 = 1.1858 BTC [+]
Jan 12 02:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 697 @ 0.00470237 = 3.2776 BTC [+]
Jan 12 03:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00470237 = 2.8214 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 03:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 203 @ 0.00470237 = 0.9546 BTC [+]
Jan 12 03:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 406 @ 0.00470807 = 1.9115 BTC [+]
Jan 12 03:22:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00464993 = 3.7199 BTC [-]
Jan 12 03:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0046461 = 0.9292 BTC [-]
Jan 12 03:28:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1657 @ 0.00469177 = 7.7743 BTC [+]
Jan 12 03:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 393 @ 0.00469177 = 1.8439 BTC [+]
Jan 12 03:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0046461 = 1.3938 BTC [-]
Jan 12 03:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1226 @ 0.00460126 = 5.6411 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 03:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 667 @ 0.00457452 = 3.0512 BTC [-]
Jan 12 03:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 148 @ 0.002 = 0.296 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 03:45:17 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 12 03:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00454863 / 0.00471763 / 0.0048 (310974 shares, 1,467.06 BTC), 7D: 0.00428 / 0.00465741 / 0.0048 (1920758 shares, 8,945.76 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00348807 / 0.0048 (14415063 shares, 50,280.85 BTC)
Jan 12 03:45:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.0045939 = 3.6751 BTC [+]
Jan 12 03:52:39 <Schadenfreude>	mircea, you dabble in rl-stock, in particular that of pharmaceutical concerns like bayer, novartis, pfizer etc.?
Jan 12 04:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.0045939 = 3.6751 BTC [+]
Jan 12 04:02:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00459751 = 0.9195 BTC [+]
Jan 12 04:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00459751 = 2.2988 BTC [+]
Jan 12 04:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 974 @ 0.00459751 = 4.478 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 04:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00457452 = 2.7447 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 04:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 453 @ 0.00457452 = 2.0723 BTC [-]
Jan 12 04:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 74 @ 0.00456456 = 0.3378 BTC [-]
Jan 12 04:30:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00456456 = 5.9339 BTC [-]
Jan 12 04:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00458264 = 2.2913 BTC [+]
Jan 12 04:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 26 @ 0.00456456 = 0.1187 BTC [-]
Jan 12 04:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 952 @ 0.00455323 = 4.3347 BTC [-]
Jan 12 04:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 522 @ 0.00454914 = 2.3747 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 05:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1007 @ 0.00459751 = 4.6297 BTC [+]
Jan 12 05:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00462303 = 2.0804 BTC [+]
Jan 12 05:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 435 @ 0.00467307 = 2.0328 BTC [+]
Jan 12 05:20:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00454915 = 4.5492 BTC [-]
Jan 12 05:20:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00454914 = 0.9098 BTC [-]
Jan 12 05:26:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00454914 = 5.2315 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 05:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00461263 = 2.7676 BTC [+]
Jan 12 05:28:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00465244 = 2.0936 BTC [+]
Jan 12 05:33:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1289 @ 0.00064537 = 0.8319 BTC [-]
Jan 12 05:33:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 511 @ 0.00062772 = 0.3208 BTC [-]
Jan 12 05:36:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0065 BTC
Jan 12 05:40:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [-]
Jan 12 05:45:17 <pigeons>	what does 1 GSDPT = in S.DICE?
Jan 12 05:55:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 93 @ 0.00454914 = 0.4231 BTC [-]
Jan 12 05:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 826 @ 0.00454863 = 3.7572 BTC [-]
Jan 12 05:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 368 @ 0.00454712 = 1.6733 BTC [-]
Jan 12 06:01:01 <Ukto>	jurov ?
Jan 12 06:02:50 <FabianB>	new main menu on bitfunder :)
Jan 12 06:03:17 <FabianB>	;;tslb
Jan 12 06:03:19 <gribble>	Time since last block: 33 minutes and 45 seconds
Jan 12 06:10:31 <FabianB>	Ukto: but would be nice if ballance is always visible
Jan 12 06:25:50 <Ukto>	its not?
Jan 12 06:26:05 <Ukto>	new main menu? x.x
Jan 12 06:26:25 <FabianB>	the red button
Jan 12 06:27:15 <Ukto>	i have no idea what you are talking about LOL
Jan 12 06:27:54 <FabianB>	u didnt change the layout?
Jan 12 06:28:24 <Ukto>	it looks the same to me ?
Jan 12 06:28:40 <Ukto>	screen shot it
Jan 12 06:28:52 <Ukto>	i wanna see what your talking about
Jan 12 06:29:00 <FabianB>	ok, will do
Jan 12 06:29:29 <Ukto>	the only changes I have made in a week is the transfer tab, and bold to normal on the market pge
Jan 12 06:29:30 <Ukto>	page
Jan 12 06:30:30 <FabianB>	just need to find that screenshot tool, wait
Jan 12 06:30:57 <Ukto>	windows?
Jan 12 06:31:08 <FabianB>	no, mac
Jan 12 06:31:10 <Ukto>	press the 'print screen' button
Jan 12 06:31:12 <Ukto>	hm
Jan 12 06:31:15 <Ukto>	should still be able to use print screen
Jan 12 06:31:36 <Ukto>	will copy the desktop to clipboard
Jan 12 06:31:43 <Ukto>	to paste into photshop or something
Jan 12 06:32:01 <FabianB>	found it already (grab)
Jan 12 06:32:57 <FabianB>	now need somewhere to post it
Jan 12 06:33:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 32 @ 0.00454712 = 0.1455 BTC [-]
Jan 12 06:33:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00454415 = 1.3632 BTC [-]
Jan 12 06:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 903 @ 0.00454181 = 4.1013 BTC [-]
Jan 12 06:35:11 <FabianB>	Ukto: http://imgur.com/BgY8x
Jan 12 06:36:29 <FabianB>	is that just me and my browser?
Jan 12 06:38:57 <Ukto>	oh that
Jan 12 06:38:57 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 12 06:39:02 <Ukto>	expand the width of the window
Jan 12 06:39:05 <Ukto>	make it much wider
Jan 12 06:39:08 <Ukto>	it goes away
Jan 12 06:39:18 <Ukto>	thats ment more for mobile phones etc
Jan 12 06:39:21 <Ukto>	to click to expand the menu
Jan 12 06:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 576 @ 0.00454181 = 2.6161 BTC [-]
Jan 12 06:39:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 74 @ 0.00453569 = 0.3356 BTC [-]
Jan 12 06:39:45 <FabianB>	ah, hehe, that's why
Jan 12 06:40:05 <FabianB>	made my window smaller
Jan 12 06:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 601 @ 0.00457149 = 2.7475 BTC [+]
Jan 12 06:45:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 427 @ 0.00457149 = 1.952 BTC [+]
Jan 12 06:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 173 @ 0.0045737 = 0.7913 BTC [+]
Jan 12 06:57:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.007 = 0.7 BTC [-]
Jan 12 07:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 436 @ 0.0045737 = 1.9941 BTC [+]
Jan 12 07:04:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 664 @ 0.00465244 = 3.0892 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 07:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 136 @ 0.00465244 = 0.6327 BTC [+]
Jan 12 07:34:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 64 @ 0.00467307 = 0.2991 BTC [+]
Jan 12 07:35:41 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87934.msg1449410#msg1449410
Jan 12 07:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	this shit... i can't even
Jan 12 07:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons iirc 1gsdpt = 1 s.dice
Jan 12 07:37:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1310 @ 0.00467307 = 6.1217 BTC [+]
Jan 12 07:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 290 @ 0.0046746 = 1.3556 BTC [+]
Jan 12 07:38:28 <pigeons>	wow .007
Jan 12 07:38:36 <pigeons>	but on 100 ;)
Jan 12 07:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	crazy.
Jan 12 07:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1449 @ 0.0046746 = 6.7735 BTC [+]
Jan 12 07:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 451 @ 0.00468023 = 2.1108 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 08:01:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.48 = 5.28 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 08:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 912 @ 0.00453569 = 4.1365 BTC [-]
Jan 12 08:05:00 <pigeons>	i think satoshi dice passthroughs have jumped the shark
Jan 12 08:06:29 <FabianB_>	Ukto: where can we tip you to consider using assbot ?
Jan 12 08:07:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 907 @ 0.00458755 = 4.1609 BTC [+]
Jan 12 08:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly, what's keeping him ?
Jan 12 08:09:17 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: he's mad because he implemented the twitter interface first and then got told it's not current anymore i think
Jan 12 08:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	eh come on.
Jan 12 08:10:19 <pigeons>	obviously people will see a bf trade stream by, decide the price is interesting and they should go trade or make an account = profit
Jan 12 08:11:08 <FabianB_>	that's what i think too
Jan 12 08:12:47 <pigeons>	the Foundation has decreed that from now on BFL, BTC Mag, and Bitpay ARE = "Bitcoin"
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Jan 12 08:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	the who ?
Jan 12 08:18:40 <pigeons>	The Foundation (PBUT)
Jan 12 08:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	never heard of em.
Jan 12 08:18:56 <pigeons>	well I made it up anyway
Jan 12 08:19:24 <mircea_popescu>	you should instead contribute to that person's 1050 btc fund
Jan 12 08:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.0006578 = 5.4269 BTC [+]
Jan 12 08:20:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00458755 = 1.1469 BTC [+]
Jan 12 08:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135985.0
Jan 12 08:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	in case not everyone has seen that
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Jan 12 08:29:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 914 @ 0.00453569 = 4.1456 BTC [-]
Jan 12 08:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 558 @ 0.00453301 = 2.5294 BTC [-]
Jan 12 08:30:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 884 @ 0.00453301 = 4.0072 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 08:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 299 @ 0.00458755 = 1.3717 BTC [+]
Jan 12 08:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 649 @ 0.00468023 = 3.0375 BTC [+]
Jan 12 08:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 852 @ 0.00468482 = 3.9915 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 09:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 602 @ 0.00453485 = 2.73 BTC [-]
Jan 12 09:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 426 @ 0.00453485 = 1.9318 BTC [-]
Jan 12 09:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3574 @ 0.00454341 = 16.2381 BTC [+]
Jan 12 09:15:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00454189 = 0.9084 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 09:28:11 <FabianB_>	jurov: live.coinbr.com down?
Jan 12 09:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see it either. 502
Jan 12 09:37:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00454279 = 1.8171 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 09:40:52 <kakobrekla>	so i got Critticall workin on my forex data, this is the most awesome shit ive seen.
Jan 12 09:46:21 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker
Jan 12 09:46:21 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 12 09:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 12 09:46:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.13148, Best ask: 14.16500, Bid-ask spread: 0.03352, Last trade: 14.13148, 24 hour volume: 47145.03484939, 24 hour low: 13.95000, 24 hour high: 14.34999, 24 hour vwap: 14.15034
Jan 12 09:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.23456 *  14.15034
Jan 12 09:46:33 <gribble>	3.3191037504
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Jan 12 10:01:54 <error3477>	live coinbr down ? "502 Bad Gateway"
Jan 12 10:02:32 <kakobrekla>	awww
Jan 12 10:04:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 394 @ 0.00454189 = 1.7895 BTC [-]
Jan 12 10:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 656 @ 0.00453302 = 2.9737 BTC [-]
Jan 12 10:07:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00453302 = 3.6264 BTC [-]
Jan 12 10:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063815 = 0.6382 BTC [-]
Jan 12 10:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063814 = 0.6381 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 10:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7544 @ 0.00453302 = 34.1971 BTC [-]
Jan 12 10:25:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2456 @ 0.00453301 = 11.1331 BTC [-]
Jan 12 10:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00453301 = 4.0797 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 10:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00454279 = 1.3628 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 10:38:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3030 @ 0.00063814 = 1.9336 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 11:11:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 24 @ 0.0064 = 0.1536 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 11:48:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00453301 = 3.1731 BTC [-]
Jan 12 11:49:41 <drdoolittle>	!help
Jan 12 11:49:41 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 12 11:49:42 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 12 11:50:48 <drdoolittle>	!ticker usd
Jan 12 11:50:49 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 12 11:51:04 <kakobrekla>	if you want btc, use gribble
Jan 12 11:51:06 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Jan 12 11:51:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.12020, Best ask: 14.17998, Bid-ask spread: 0.05978, Last trade: 14.17998, 24 hour volume: 45801.37653338, 24 hour low: 13.95000, 24 hour high: 14.34999, 24 hour vwap: 14.15301
Jan 12 11:51:16 <jurov>	hello
Jan 12 11:51:25 <jurov>	live.coinbr.com restarted
Jan 12 11:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 826 @ 0.00454616 = 3.7551 BTC [+]
Jan 12 11:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.0045487 = 1.592 BTC [+]
Jan 12 11:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 324 @ 0.00455696 = 1.4765 BTC [+]
Jan 12 11:55:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00453301 = 5.4396 BTC [-]
Jan 12 11:56:47 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu Did you say you are in Cluj?
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Jan 12 12:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00453301 = 3.1731 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 12:03:32 <smickles_>	;;ticker
Jan 12 12:03:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.14531, Best ask: 14.17996, Bid-ask spread: 0.03465, Last trade: 14.17996, 24 hour volume: 45741.29281958, 24 hour low: 13.95000, 24 hour high: 14.34999, 24 hour vwap: 14.15313
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Jan 12 12:12:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00455696 = 3.1899 BTC [+]
Jan 12 12:14:53 <JWU42>	so does SDICE post theor financials or we are relying on MPEX to verify?
Jan 12 12:16:21 <Bugpowder>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dG5SQklHZG4wRm1GMW9DRWpMMW5UQkE&pli=1#gid=0
Jan 12 12:16:47 <Bugpowder>	it checks out with the blockchain analysis done by dooglas
Jan 12 12:17:15 <JWU42>	but this profit  does not equal net profit
Jan 12 12:17:25 <JWU42>	and we get dividends on net profit
Jan 12 12:17:54 <Bugpowder>	costs were 60BTC
Jan 12 12:17:57 <JWU42>	well - I do see that the December total - 10% - is what was recorded as net profit
Jan 12 12:18:31 <JWU42>	Do you have a January sheet?
Jan 12 12:18:54 <JWU42>	December profit was just HUGE
Jan 12 12:19:01 <Bugpowder>	January does not exist yet
Jan 12 12:19:14 <Bugpowder>	if you want to see how they are doing go to dooglas's thread
Jan 12 12:19:17 <JWU42>	the daily
Jan 12 12:19:32 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.680
Jan 12 12:19:32 <JWU42>	as whomever's SS I am looking at has daily details
Jan 12 12:19:39 <smickles_>	i don't think it's meant to be updated daily
Jan 12 12:19:41 <JWU42>	yeah - I look at that sometimes
Jan 12 12:19:49 <JWU42>	smickles_: K
Jan 12 12:19:51 <Bugpowder>	That's the only thing you need to look at
Jan 12 12:20:04 <Bugpowder>	for the curret
Jan 12 12:20:22 <JWU42>	January looking negative then
Jan 12 12:20:31 <JWU42>	oops
Jan 12 12:20:36 <smickles_>	well, we don't know if evoorhees has racked up any unexpecte expenses, like adverts or something
Jan 12 12:20:44 <JWU42>	more like flat - the spike happened IN January
Jan 12 12:20:54 <Bugpowder>	yea
Jan 12 12:20:57 <Bugpowder>	flate
Jan 12 12:21:11 <JWU42>	so the yield is effectively 0
Jan 12 12:21:17 <JWU42>	trading at like 1,000x
Jan 12 12:21:18 <JWU42>	heh
Jan 12 12:21:26 <smickles_>	JWU42: also, there is the sourcecode for the sd monitor on github
Jan 12 12:21:32 <smickles_>	if you want to do it yourself
Jan 12 12:21:41 <JWU42>	yeah - thanks for that smickles_
Jan 12 12:21:43 <Bugpowder>	the important line is the red line on the zoom plot
Jan 12 12:21:45 <JWU42>	I will start now
Jan 12 12:21:58 <JWU42>	Bugpowder: yeah - accumulated
Jan 12 12:22:01 <Bugpowder>	divide the difference between start and end by 0.019 to get EV
Jan 12 12:22:07 <JWU42>	err
Jan 12 12:22:08 <Bugpowder>	err
Jan 12 12:22:12 <Bugpowder>	to get betting volume
Jan 12 12:22:45 <Bugpowder>	185,000 so far this month
Jan 12 12:22:59 <Bugpowder>	as long as the red line goes up, we S.DICE will do well
Jan 12 12:23:18 <Bugpowder>	If it goes flat, we are fucked
Jan 12 12:23:37 <smickles_>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 12 12:23:38 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 12 12:23:39 <JWU42>	smickles_: is it called sd monitor?
Jan 12 12:24:16 <smickles_>	JWU42: i don't think so, it's in the elotipi's (no idea how to spell that name) armory files
Jan 12 12:24:30 <JWU42>	K
Jan 12 12:24:38 <JWU42>	will look in his stuff
Jan 12 12:25:03 <JWU42>	etotheipi
Jan 12 12:25:04 <smickles_>	https://github.com/etotheipi/BitcoinArmory/blob/master/extras/satoshiDiceStats.py
Jan 12 12:25:33 <JWU42>	ah ha
Jan 12 12:25:36 <JWU42>	thks
Jan 12 12:26:13 <smickles_>	oh lol
Jan 12 12:26:24 <smickles_>	i don't think that's at all what i thought it was
Jan 12 12:26:31 <JWU42>	yeah
Jan 12 12:26:35 <JWU42>	looking at code now
Jan 12 12:26:40 <JWU42>	and I don't know much
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Jan 12 12:26:58 <JWU42>	but seems to have some tweakable asusmptions
Jan 12 12:30:31 <Bugpowder>	you can also just pull the data into a google doc
Jan 12 12:30:45 <JWU42>	yeah - that python script failed for me
Jan 12 12:30:47 <JWU42>	oh well
Jan 12 12:30:52 <JWU42>	better I stay away
Jan 12 12:30:54 <JWU42>	;)
Jan 12 12:31:01 <Bugpowder>	for example
Jan 12 12:31:02 <Bugpowder>	=ImportHtml("http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL","table",0)
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Jan 12 12:31:21 <Bugpowder>	will display the last 1000 transactions over 10BTC in a google doc
Jan 12 12:31:30 *	JWU42 nods
Jan 12 12:32:26 <JWU42>	didn't work
Jan 12 12:32:38 <JWU42>	at least just pasting in what you put
Jan 12 12:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 876 @ 0.00455696 = 3.9919 BTC [+]
Jan 12 12:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 224 @ 0.00457036 = 1.0238 BTC [+]
Jan 12 12:37:25 <JWU42>	my quick check says over 10 - last 1000 - they are down 1267 BTC
Jan 12 12:37:39 <JWU42>	unless I am having maff fail
Jan 12 12:42:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.0006578 = 1.1512 BTC [+]
Jan 12 12:42:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00065781 = 3.1575 BTC [+]
Jan 12 12:48:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 490 @ 0.00453303 = 2.2212 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 13:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0045389 = 5.4467 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 13:10:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.0045389 = 3.8581 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00454662 = 3.41 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 13:14:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 9 @ 0.1437 = 1.2933 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:15:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00454662 = 4.774 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:15:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00457036 = 1.5996 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 726 @ 0.00457036 = 3.3181 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00457064 = 3.885 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 24 @ 0.00457449 = 0.1098 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 619 @ 0.00457449 = 2.8316 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 719 @ 0.00458392 = 3.2958 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:21:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.72 = 1.44 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 13:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00456153 = 7.2984 BTC [-]
Jan 12 13:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00458392 = 1.3752 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00065781 = 1.513 BTC [+]
Jan 12 13:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5057 @ 0.00065882 = 3.3317 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 13:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 509 @ 0.00454963 = 2.3158 BTC [-]
Jan 12 13:47:14 <markedathome>	just been reading the preemptive-strike-to... by mp,
Jan 12 13:47:39 <markedathome>	is there any evidence that the bfl single was solely designed  for btc mining, or did they fall into it?
Jan 12 13:48:12 <kakobrekla>	in theory any fpga can do other stuff
Jan 12 13:48:16 <markedathome>	did they ever have any of the other applications that were originally on the site?
Jan 12 13:48:31 <kakobrekla>	but doing souch thing is no piece of cake
Jan 12 13:48:40 <kakobrekla>	the other thing, bfl is closed source hw and sw
Jan 12 13:48:47 <kakobrekla>	so its a finger in the ass either way.
Jan 12 13:49:34 <kakobrekla>	if you pay them a billion they will make you new fw in 4-6 weeks or smth!!
Jan 12 13:49:35 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 12 13:49:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.002 / 0.002 / 0.002 (4148 shares, 8.30 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00068004 / 0.0035 (1991241 shares, 1,354.13 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00068004 / 0.0035 (1991241 shares, 1,354.13 BTC)
Jan 12 13:49:44 <Bugpowder>	bid is up to .001
Jan 12 13:49:55 <kakobrekla>	sell quick!
Jan 12 13:49:58 <Bugpowder>	getting tempting
Jan 12 13:50:03 <markedathome>	i am sort of trying to determine was there a market they were aiming for before bitcoin, but bitcoiners demanded so much they just re-oriented in that direction and ignored the rest (monte carlo simulations, etc)
Jan 12 13:50:34 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 12 13:50:46 <kakobrekla>	they dont give a shit about anything else but btc
Jan 12 13:50:47 <kakobrekla>	hell
Jan 12 13:50:52 <kakobrekla>	sometimes i think
Jan 12 13:50:59 <kakobrekla>	they dont give a shit about btc as well
Jan 12 13:51:04 <Diablo-D3>	so whats been up?
Jan 12 13:51:40 <markedathome>	laughing at micon, the collapse of btcfpga, i think
Jan 12 13:52:08 <markedathome>	i'd rather pass the billion to ztex, fizzist, or the avalon team
Jan 12 13:52:53 <kakobrekla>	just got a pic of furys asic :>
Jan 12 13:53:17 <FabianB_>	ztex never tried to go asic, did they?
Jan 12 13:53:28 <kakobrekla>	he doesnt give a shit about btc as well
Jan 12 13:53:30 <markedathome>	bitfury? i was reading that yesterday, but seemed to end around april/may last year
Jan 12 13:53:39 <kakobrekla>	i have him on skype
Jan 12 13:53:58 <markedathome>	nope, ztex is just an fpga guy, whose products happened to be good at doing bitcoin mining
Jan 12 13:54:30 <kakobrekla>	well basically he just needed to make his boards hash
Jan 12 13:54:38 <kakobrekla>	and rip off the miners
Jan 12 13:54:39 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 12 13:55:08 <markedathome>	the miners probably put him through hell, so why not? :-)
Jan 12 13:58:05 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 12 13:58:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.17200, Best ask: 14.18899, Bid-ask spread: 0.01699, Last trade: 14.18899, 24 hour volume: 43550.66317049, 24 hour low: 13.95000, 24 hour high: 14.34999, 24 hour vwap: 14.15003
Jan 12 14:02:48 <thestringpuller>	markedathome:  www.nvidia.com/object/computational_finance.html
Jan 12 14:03:06 <thestringpuller>	apply that to bitcoin, make millions
Jan 12 14:05:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.33 = 1.32 BTC
Jan 12 14:08:45 <FabianB_>	unlikely, there are already CUDA miners
Jan 12 14:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 109 @ 0.00454963 = 0.4959 BTC [-]
Jan 12 14:12:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 741 @ 0.00453303 = 3.359 BTC [-]
Jan 12 14:19:38 <thestringpuller>	no cuda computational finance
Jan 12 14:19:48 <thestringpuller>	run monte carlo on btc options
Jan 12 14:19:58 <FabianB_>	ah, that
Jan 12 14:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00457879 = 1.3736 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 14:39:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0045555 = 0.9111 BTC [-]
Jan 12 14:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 826 @ 0.00455413 = 3.7617 BTC [-]
Jan 12 14:39:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 434 @ 0.00453303 = 1.9673 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 14:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00457879 = 3.2052 BTC [+]
Jan 12 14:56:02 <markedathome>	thestringpuller: but isn't that the computation that "high-finance", big banks like jpmorgan, barclays capital, etc., use fpga and hardcopy asics for?
Jan 12 14:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00453303 = 7.7062 BTC [-]
Jan 12 14:56:55 <markedathome>	well, reading down the page, jp m does... :-)
Jan 12 14:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00457879 = 1.6026 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 14:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 223 @ 0.00458392 = 1.0222 BTC [+]
Jan 12 14:58:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0046188 = 1.3856 BTC [+]
Jan 12 14:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 612 @ 0.00462103 = 2.8281 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 15:05:18 <markedathome>	why does everyone assume that "We'll reboot CAL2 at 09:00 PST on 01/11/13" is easily understood?
Jan 12 15:06:20 <markedathome>	everyone knows what there offset from GMT/UTC is. WHY THE FUCKING HELL ISN"T AN INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER GIVING USEFUL INFORMATION rather than forcing everyone in the 23 other timezone to look it up?
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Jan 12 15:15:18 <Schadenfreude>	So, when will the BTC-USD rally crash again in your opinion?
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Jan 12 15:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 149 @ 0.00453303 = 0.6754 BTC [-]
Jan 12 15:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1251 @ 0.00453301 = 5.6708 BTC [-]
Jan 12 15:16:28 <Anduck>	Schadenfreude: what rally?
Jan 12 15:17:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 12 15:17:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.21501, Best ask: 14.22600, Bid-ask spread: 0.01099, Last trade: 14.21501, 24 hour volume: 42917.05982446, 24 hour low: 13.95000, 24 hour high: 14.34999, 24 hour vwap: 14.14843
Jan 12 15:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	not really much is it.
Jan 12 15:19:29 <Schadenfreude>	I sold some spare BTC and will prolly buy some again when it drops 5% orso
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Jan 12 15:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't look too likely.
Jan 12 15:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00462102 = 6.4694 BTC [+]
Jan 12 15:21:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.33 = 1.32 BTC
Jan 12 15:22:39 <Schadenfreude>	Meh, mining bonds/stocks aren't too bad - early on.
Jan 12 15:22:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://cryptobill.com/
Jan 12 15:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck, we're still doing this ?
Jan 12 15:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	Please note: Cryptobill should not be considered a secure method of transferring a significant amount of BTC. Since, according to the Federal Reserve, the life span of a US dollar bill is less than five years, it is also not recommended to use Cryptobill to store bitcoins for a significant length of time. Administrators of Cryptobill.com reserve the right to import BTC left at addresses for more than five years.
Jan 12 15:23:23 <mircea_popescu>	pff
Jan 12 15:23:33 <mircea_popescu>	ukto wtf ?!
Jan 12 15:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1184 @ 0.00462102 = 5.4713 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 15:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1176 @ 0.00462102 = 5.4343 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 15:43:21 <jurov>	markedathome, +1. it made me preemptively confirm the details on #bitvps. also, 'merican date format (but am perhaps accustomed already).
Jan 12 15:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00460762 = 5.0684 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 15:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00460762 = 4.6076 BTC [-]
Jan 12 15:46:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 386 @ 0.00458667 = 1.7705 BTC [-]
Jan 12 15:49:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00458667 = 1.6053 BTC [-]
Jan 12 15:54:54 <Ukto>	wha?
Jan 12 15:54:58 *	Ukto reads up
Jan 12 15:55:07 <Ukto>	no
Jan 12 15:55:26 <Ukto>	wtf is cryptobills ?
Jan 12 15:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	o wait, other weex ?
Jan 12 15:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno i saw weex there was omfg
Jan 12 15:55:35 <Ukto>	there is an irc user "weex"
Jan 12 15:55:48 <mircea_popescu>	ah i c. my bad!
Jan 12 15:56:09 <Ukto>	i was like ... @,@
Jan 12 15:56:15 <Ukto>	i wouldnt ut up a site that.. err  n/m
Jan 12 15:56:15 <Ukto>	:)
Jan 12 15:56:20 <Ukto>	i have something far better
Jan 12 15:56:21 <Ukto>	though
Jan 12 15:56:23 <Ukto>	comming soon
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Jan 12 15:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Jan 12 15:58:51 <FabianB_>	a bitfunder assbot connection.. can we bribe you Ukto ?
Jan 12 15:59:26 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly ?
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Jan 12 16:02:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00462102 = 3.0037 BTC [+]
Jan 12 16:05:23 *	jurov should take live.coinbr down again and request bribes too :D
Jan 12 16:08:14 <FabianB_>	well, in case it generates too much traffic you could open it for active coinbr accounts only :)
Jan 12 16:08:38 <jurov>	no, in fact i plan to put ads there.
Jan 12 16:09:36 <FabianB_>	yeah, the more mpex grows, u'll be the bitcoincharts of mpex
Jan 12 16:10:46 <jurov>	in fact, if anyone would be so bright and came up with sound business model, i'm sure we could do some contract for running it
Jan 12 16:11:01 <jurov>	but sadly,  that's scarce commodity in this community
Jan 12 16:11:43 <kakobrekla>	why do you need a contract
Jan 12 16:11:49 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Jan 12 16:11:54 <kakobrekla>	just code and run and milk
Jan 12 16:12:25 <jurov>	cause i'm lazy. let someone other maintain it, i'll just milk
Jan 12 16:14:17 <Ukto>	FabianB_: as I have todl the otherw
Jan 12 16:14:23 <Ukto>	once i get done wiht a big thing right now
Jan 12 16:14:28 <Ukto>	that I am trying to get launched
Jan 12 16:14:31 <Ukto>	you will get assbot
Jan 12 16:14:36 <Ukto>	as a weexchagne user
Jan 12 16:14:40 <Ukto>	i think you will be happy with this. :
Jan 12 16:14:41 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 12 16:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3293 @ 0.0006592 = 2.1707 BTC [+]
Jan 12 16:14:47 <FabianB_>	:D
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Jan 12 16:15:20 <FabianB_>	will wait patiently
Jan 12 16:17:09 <Schadenfreude>	jurov, how operational is coinbr?
Jan 12 16:17:57 <jurov>	how do you mean?
Jan 12 16:18:39 <jurov>	everything online afaik
Jan 12 16:18:54 <Schadenfreude>	Receiving dividends, buying stuff, selling stuff?
Jan 12 16:18:59 <jurov>	yes
Jan 12 16:19:20 <Schadenfreude>	Might try it out once I converted a bit of spare cash into BTC later
Jan 12 16:19:56 <jurov>	you're welcome
Jan 12 16:20:49 <Schadenfreude>	S.DICE seems tempting, dividend wise, don't know about any other MPEX-asset
Jan 12 16:22:56 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m *
Jan 12 16:22:57 <assbot>	Did you kill the white man who killed you?
Jan 12 16:24:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol ?
Jan 12 16:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	dude these sloven jokes are completely hermetic
Jan 12 16:24:32 <kakobrekla>	are not slovenian
Jan 12 16:24:42 <kakobrekla>	try another one
Jan 12 16:25:00 <jurov>	!ticker glbse milk
Jan 12 16:25:00 <assbot>	You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship.
Jan 12 16:25:05 <kakobrekla>	0.1337 btc to whoever figues out where it comes from
Jan 12 16:25:21 <kakobrekla>	and not 0.1336, mircea_popescu.
Jan 12 16:25:55 <Schadenfreude>	'Dead Man' movie from 1995?
Jan 12 16:25:58 <kakobrekla>	addy
Jan 12 16:26:13 <kakobrekla>	?
Jan 12 16:26:30 <Schadenfreude>	1NE3pKoZCFsXQ8nCAkRKBiA9k7VG2PFwWw
Jan 12 16:27:13 <Schadenfreude>	Odd abbreviation for adress, thanks though!
Jan 12 16:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	ummm, montenegro ? :D
Jan 12 16:28:37 <kakobrekla>	Schadenfreude, sent, now go spend it on hookers and blow on coinbr
Jan 12 16:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	he can buy trilema credits
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Jan 12 16:30:05 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu, you are missing out, go watch dead man
Jan 12 16:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	aite.
Jan 12 16:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	last film i watched i nearly ended up beating innocent girls
Jan 12 16:31:22 <Schadenfreude>	What film was so awful?
Jan 12 16:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	reds
Jan 12 16:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;google trilema reds
Jan 12 16:31:52 <gribble>	Trilema! - Samsa - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYW06nbzuVg>; Munchausen Trilemma - SoundCloud: <http://soundcloud.com/munchausen-trilemma>; Examining C.S. Lewis' Trilemma: <http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/examining_c_s__lewis__trilemma>
Jan 12 16:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	pff.
Jan 12 16:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-dont-you-go-as-a-turkey/
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Jan 12 16:34:36 <Schadenfreude>	Ah, I assume the movie portrays commies as the good guys?
Jan 12 16:34:57 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Jan 12 16:35:18 <Schadenfreude>	Well, that's at least one plus point there
Jan 12 16:37:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00461252 = 3.9206 BTC [-]
Jan 12 16:37:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 538 @ 0.00462102 = 2.4861 BTC [+]
Jan 12 16:37:47 <Schadenfreude>	I like the way Caucescau~ was dealt with in Romania
Jan 12 16:49:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 103 @ 0.00460688 = 0.4745 BTC [-]
Jan 12 16:49:24 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFgQ01D1Pmk
Jan 12 16:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00460688 = 5.0676 BTC [-]
Jan 12 16:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1391 @ 0.00462102 = 6.4278 BTC [+]
Jan 12 17:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135952.msg1450248#msg1450248
Jan 12 17:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	the girl at her finest.
Jan 12 17:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 97 @ 0.00460688 = 0.4469 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 847 @ 0.00458667 = 3.8849 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:03:11 <jurov>	It is purely internal, to wit, the fact that you are worthless as a human being, have no point in this world and your opinions do not matter.
Jan 12 17:03:18 <jurov>	same old shit
Jan 12 17:04:30 <jurov>	i mean, the rest of reply is fine, i like mpoe-pr. but i don't see any useful purpose to such statements
Jan 12 17:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	i think she may just be evil.
Jan 12 17:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1817 @ 0.00458667 = 8.334 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 83 @ 0.00458437 = 0.3805 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:06:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4167 @ 0.00462102 = 19.2558 BTC [+]
Jan 12 17:14:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00457025 = 1.3711 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:14:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.00453297 = 0.8567 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:14:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.0045328 = 6.3459 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:14:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00453124 = 5.4375 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:14:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 611 @ 0.0045308 = 2.7683 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00462102 = 5.5452 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 17:35:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00462102 = 3.4658 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 17:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00462102 = 1.3863 BTC [+]
Jan 12 17:48:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.3299 = 1.6495 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:48:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33 = 0.99 BTC [+]
Jan 12 17:51:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 308 @ 0.00455423 = 1.4027 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:51:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 342 @ 0.00453081 = 1.5495 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 658 @ 0.00453081 = 2.9813 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.0045308 = 0.8563 BTC [-]
Jan 12 17:57:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 653 @ 0.00453006 = 2.9581 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 18:10:34 <Bugpowder>	buyers are still overbidding one another in the S.BBET post-IPO period.  Now 100001 bit
Jan 12 18:10:35 <Bugpowder>	bid
Jan 12 18:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 12 18:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.002 / 0.002 / 0.002 (148 shares, 0.30 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00068004 / 0.0035 (1991241 shares, 1,354.13 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00068004 / 0.0035 (1991241 shares, 1,354.13 BTC)
Jan 12 18:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 12 18:12:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.48 / 0.48000000 (64 shares, 30.72000000 BTC), 7D: 0.47500000 / 0.48099029 / 0.50999999 (1853 shares, 891.27499998 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.44956487 / 0.62000000 (3137 shares, 1410.28499998 BTC)
Jan 12 18:13:01 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu are you in Cluj?
Jan 12 18:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Jan 12 18:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	timisoara.
Jan 12 18:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Jan 12 18:13:52 <Bugpowder>	Trying to get some real estate data for an idea I'm working on... looked up the founder of property shark.com and he is now in Cluj
Jan 12 18:13:55 <Bugpowder>	of all places
Jan 12 18:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	hehe.
Jan 12 18:14:35 <mircea_popescu>	i was born there.
Jan 12 18:14:45 <Bugpowder>	http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=19738536&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=St0M&locale=en_US&srchid=004655ad-5487-4039-9a81-84070c446498-0&srchindex=7&srchtotal=80&goback=%2Efps_PBCK_*1_Matthew_Haines_*1_*1_*1_*1_*2_*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_*1_*51_*1_*51_true_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2&pvs=ps&trk=pp_profile_name_link
Jan 12 18:14:48 <Bugpowder>	ugh
Jan 12 18:14:53 <Bugpowder>	ugly link
Jan 12 18:15:22 <kakobrekla>	time one times one times two times one
Jan 12 18:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	cluj is a 500k pop town
Jan 12 18:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	and i don't have a linkedin acct.
Jan 12 18:17:07 <Bugpowder>	aiight
Jan 12 18:17:32 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, romania real estate is fucked, whatever he asks for offer half.
Jan 12 18:27:11 <dub>	neat, ff has blocked java?
Jan 12 18:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 431 @ 0.00457266 = 1.9708 BTC [+]
Jan 12 18:29:23 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 12 18:29:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 297 @ 0.00453006 = 1.3454 BTC [-]
Jan 12 18:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 24 @ 0.00452995 = 0.1087 BTC [-]
Jan 12 18:29:52 <Bugpowder>	no I'm thinking of doing price optimization for US luxury RE
Jan 12 18:30:10 <Bugpowder>	I think we can develop an algorithm that destroys zillow
Jan 12 18:30:22 <Bugpowder>	which is a 1BB company
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Jan 12 18:31:41 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what's with the bot
Jan 12 18:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	which ?
Jan 12 18:31:56 <thestringpuller>	MPOE
Jan 12 18:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder if you do that i'll list you.
Jan 12 18:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller be moar speciffix.
Jan 12 18:32:31 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 12 18:33:24 <thestringpuller>	Why does no one use monte carlo...
Jan 12 18:33:34 <thestringpuller>	lack of computing power?
Jan 12 18:33:36 <Bugpowder>	If it works, I'm sure many people will want to
Jan 12 18:33:42 <Bugpowder>	LOL
Jan 12 18:33:45 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller
Jan 12 18:34:01 <Bugpowder>	monte carlo does not take much power dude
Jan 12 18:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1476 @ 0.00452995 = 6.6862 BTC [-]
Jan 12 18:34:03 <Bugpowder>	for some bitcoin options
Jan 12 18:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00452938 = 5.6617 BTC [-]
Jan 12 18:34:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 174 @ 0.0045293 = 0.7881 BTC [-]
Jan 12 18:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	ya but mine is teh best :D
Jan 12 18:34:27 <thestringpuller>	then why not take larger samples
Jan 12 18:34:33 <Bugpowder>	huh?
Jan 12 18:34:37 <Bugpowder>	larger samples?
Jan 12 18:34:59 <mircea_popescu>	ppl use plenty of mc on sd
Jan 12 18:35:12 <thestringpuller>	S.DICE?
Jan 12 18:35:20 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: price paths*
Jan 12 18:35:22 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu, if your exchange has the capital to support a $1BB market cap, then we can talk
Jan 12 18:35:38 <Bugpowder>	also
Jan 12 18:35:50 <Bugpowder>	when I have something more than a napkin sketch
Jan 12 18:35:59 <Bugpowder>	and a few team members
Jan 12 18:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	pfff, fuck that shit, you don't want 1 bn fiats
Jan 12 18:36:14 <mircea_popescu>	you want a good chunk of btc.
Jan 12 18:37:48 <Bugpowder>	I want $10MM in my bank account
Jan 12 18:37:56 <mircea_popescu>	that's trivial.
Jan 12 18:37:56 <Bugpowder>	I'll convert some to coins
Jan 12 18:38:43 <mircea_popescu>	let me explain how this is gonna work
Jan 12 18:38:55 <mircea_popescu>	by this time next year mpex will have many times the total BTC M3 in mkt cap
Jan 12 18:39:09 <mircea_popescu>	and a good chunk of btc trade to fiat will be winding and unwinding of mpex positions
Jan 12 18:39:13 <thestringpuller>	BTC has M3 now
Jan 12 18:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	with s.mpoe acting as a sort of bitcoin federal reserve notes
Jan 12 18:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	(inelastic commodity overpriced through reservation demand)
Jan 12 18:39:57 <mircea_popescu>	yes thestringpuller . nominal 21mn, actualised like 12.
Jan 12 18:40:29 <thestringpuller>	i guess the year 2100 is far away for many of us
Jan 12 18:48:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 726 @ 0.0045293 = 3.2883 BTC [-]
Jan 12 18:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00452833 = 4.7547 BTC [-]
Jan 12 18:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00452616 = 4.0735 BTC [-]
Jan 12 18:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 424 @ 0.0045252 = 1.9187 BTC [-]
Jan 12 18:48:39 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 12 18:48:41 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0045252 / 0.0045811 / 0.00470807 (166931 shares, 764.73 BTC), 7D: 0.00430002 / 0.00467389 / 0.0048 (1865198 shares, 8,717.74 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00349631 / 0.0048 (14501819 shares, 50,702.91 BTC)
Jan 12 18:49:28 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 12 18:49:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.19002, Best ask: 14.23699, Bid-ask spread: 0.04697, Last trade: 14.19002, 24 hour volume: 26935.14538155, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.33800, 24 hour vwap: 14.16725
Jan 12 18:52:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00457307 = 6.8596 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 18:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.00457307 = 0.2058 BTC [+]
Jan 12 19:01:15 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: 15:39 < mircea_popescu> with s.mpoe acting as a sort of bitcoin federal reserve notes   <-- careful making statements like that, unless you are deliberately trying to make a target of yourself.
Jan 12 19:01:30 <midnightmagic>	in which case, carry on. :)
Jan 12 19:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 12 19:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	in truth, i'm a better target than most btc people, someone will have to be a target for the common good, what am i to do ?
Jan 12 19:06:51 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: "TIL since 1950, every US shooting which has killed three or more people (except for the Congresswoman Gifford shooting) has taken place in areas where citizens are not allowed to carry guns."
Jan 12 19:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Jan 12 19:07:26 <mircea_popescu>	and the congresswoman shooting was so clearly a statal political assasination it bleeds.
Jan 12 19:07:38 <thestringpuller>	heh
Jan 12 19:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Failed-states-index-2011.png
Jan 12 19:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	til : according to sillypedia, the us and canada both are failed states.
Jan 12 19:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	(to some degree)
Jan 12 19:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	and so is everywhere else
Jan 12 19:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00462102 = 6.7005 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 19:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 316 @ 0.00461956 = 1.4598 BTC [-]
Jan 12 19:33:49 <kakobrekla>	>offtopic - i am curious though how mpex has killed off the stupid bullshit prices of mining 'stocks' 'bonds' whatever you wanna callem when mpex primarily has its own asset, two gambling assets, and hosting company, and no miners? again, nothing aginst the type/quality/number of assets on mpex, just comparing types.. are you meaning overall btc price adjustments? i think the impressive
Jan 12 19:33:50 <kakobrekla>	pricing for stocks issued on mpex have done some pretty neat things esp. for each other, just not sure how it effects other types of 'assets' on other markets. not trying to be rude, just want your thoughts on it in a conversely manner.
Jan 12 19:34:05 <kakobrekla>	by effectivley valueing them zero.
Jan 12 19:34:07 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 12 19:35:25 <dub>	using IE like a boss
Jan 12 19:36:56 <Bugpowder>	kakobrekla link?
Jan 12 19:37:06 <Bugpowder>	I feel like making a little graphic for people
Jan 12 19:37:26 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135952.msg1450491#msg1450491
Jan 12 19:37:51 <Bugpowder>	there is no embedded graphics on the forum right?
Jan 12 19:38:00 <kakobrekla>	pics allowed
Jan 12 19:38:13 <kakobrekla>	at least they were
Jan 12 19:38:37 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 12 19:38:38 <Bugpowder>	cool
Jan 12 19:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 19:48:35 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i tihnk you have it
Jan 12 19:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	how does a cinema opening up run the old cafe's out of business ? well... cause the kids go to the cinema instead.
Jan 12 19:49:13 <mircea_popescu>	presto.
Jan 12 19:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i rtell you this much, if you make a whatever killer and don't list it i'll be heartbroken
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Jan 12 19:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 176 @ 0.0045252 = 0.7964 BTC [-]
Jan 12 19:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 224 @ 0.00452444 = 1.0135 BTC [-]
Jan 12 19:59:03 <Bugpowder>	Mission accomplished https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135952.msg1450526#msg1450526
Jan 12 19:59:57 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu  If my thing works, it will probably be acquired before it can go public.  Think mint.com.   3 years after it was founded, Intuit bought it for $170MM
Jan 12 20:00:09 <Bugpowder>	holy fucking shit
Jan 12 20:00:23 <Bugpowder>	Joe Flacco
Jan 12 20:00:49 <Bugpowder>	hail mary.  55 yards in the air
Jan 12 20:01:10 <Bugpowder>	Baltimore is definitley going to cover now
Jan 12 20:01:13 <Bugpowder>	and they might win
Jan 12 20:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Jan 12 20:03:28 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: are you making charts?
Jan 12 20:03:50 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 12 20:03:55 <Bugpowder>	just for fun
Jan 12 20:04:18 <Bugpowder>	Flacco threw that 60 yeards in the air, in 0F weather.
Jan 12 20:04:33 <Bugpowder>	I don't think anyone thought he could throw the ball so far
Jan 12 20:04:38 <thestringpuller>	mint.com
Jan 12 20:04:42 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 12 20:04:46 <Bugpowder>	lol?
Jan 12 20:04:55 <thestringpuller>	the quiken people bought them?
Jan 12 20:04:56 <Bugpowder>	do you use it?
Jan 12 20:04:57 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 12 20:05:10 <Bugpowder>	they felt threatened
Jan 12 20:05:35 <thestringpuller>	I used to use them because they have awesome charts.
Jan 12 20:05:46 <thestringpuller>	I want to make my own chart API like they have.
Jan 12 20:05:55 <Bugpowder>	why not use lightbox
Jan 12 20:06:08 <Bugpowder>	zillow uses lightbox
Jan 12 20:06:28 <kakobrekla>	expense tracker?
Jan 12 20:06:39 <kakobrekla>	or what
Jan 12 20:06:41 <Bugpowder>	finances tracker
Jan 12 20:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00455459 = 2.505 BTC [+]
Jan 12 20:06:53 <Bugpowder>	but SUPER easy to use
Jan 12 20:07:01 <Bugpowder>	automatically links to all your accounts
Jan 12 20:07:04 <thestringpuller>	Because I want charts not just for a webpage?
Jan 12 20:07:11 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 12 20:07:25 <Bugpowder>	I just use matlab for anything real
Jan 12 20:07:35 <Bugpowder>	R is good too
Jan 12 20:07:38 <Bugpowder>	and free
Jan 12 20:07:45 <Bugpowder>	Mint is awesome
Jan 12 20:07:59 <Bugpowder>	super easy and also very useful
Jan 12 20:08:16 <thestringpuller>	I just want the chart api
Jan 12 20:08:20 <Bugpowder>	and pretty good revenue model with targeted ads
Jan 12 20:08:23 <thestringpuller>	so I can push data in and have a pretty graphic come out the other end
Jan 12 20:08:40 <Bugpowder>	I dunno much about apis
Jan 12 20:08:49 <thestringpuller>	what about mouse brains?
Jan 12 20:09:07 <Bugpowder>	matplotlib for python is good
Jan 12 20:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	r is it.
Jan 12 20:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00452444 = 3.6196 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 20:15:51 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 12 20:15:52 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 6 hours, 53 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ticker
Jan 12 20:15:54 <thestringpuller>	SMICKLES
Jan 12 20:15:57 <thestringpuller>	WHERE ARE YOU!
Jan 12 20:15:57 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 12 20:16:01 <Bugpowder>	man S.DICE is getting pounded tonight
Jan 12 20:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/reddit_co_founder_commits_suicide_AZPHGFSHzBRrOHbx2yGM9O
Jan 12 20:18:14 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 12 20:18:22 <Bugpowder>	first reported in The Tech
Jan 12 20:19:13 <Bugpowder>	http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html
Jan 12 20:19:50 <Bugpowder>	http://techblogs.mit.edu/news/2013/01/the-techs-coverage-of-aaron-swartz/
Jan 12 20:20:15 <Bugpowder>	A big moment in MIT journalism.
Jan 12 20:20:19 <mircea_popescu>	if this won't sink the entire copyright thing i don't know what will.
Jan 12 20:20:44 <Bugpowder>	Its almost dead
Jan 12 20:20:47 <Bugpowder>	for science stuff
Jan 12 20:21:21 <Bugpowder>	Wellcome, HHMI, NIH are requiring everything be posted to open access server within 6 months of publication
Jan 12 20:21:28 <Bugpowder>	or no funding for you
Jan 12 20:22:01 <TradeFortress>	holy
Jan 12 20:22:06 <Ukto>	wow
Jan 12 20:22:07 <Ukto>	wtf
Jan 12 20:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	makes sense.
Jan 12 20:22:23 <TradeFortress>	is that on reddit?
Jan 12 20:22:26 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 12 20:22:31 <Bugpowder>	FP
Jan 12 20:22:37 <TradeFortress>	I don't see it :3
Jan 12 20:22:47 <TradeFortress>	Probably because I unsubb'd from a lot of the spammy ones
Jan 12 20:22:47 <Bugpowder>	it wuz there
Jan 12 20:22:50 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 12 20:22:58 <Bugpowder>	I only see it if I'm not logged in
Jan 12 20:23:02 <Bugpowder>	i think its r/pics
Jan 12 20:24:15 <Ukto>	wait
Jan 12 20:24:20 <Ukto>	so he martyr'd himself
Jan 12 20:24:46 <Ukto>	dont take (younger?) people to fed court over downloading BOOKS
Jan 12 20:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/how-many-more-dead-kids-needed-to-prop-up-boring-industries-of-america-bottomline/
Jan 12 20:24:59 <Ukto>	and thretening with years in prison and fines
Jan 12 20:25:00 <Ukto>	;P
Jan 12 20:25:13 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: from the topic i think were on the same page
Jan 12 20:25:14 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 12 20:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 12 20:25:49 <Ukto>	you know, i write a program, and want to be paid for it, do ihave to right to put someone i prison for years because they wanted to use it?
Jan 12 20:26:18 <Ukto>	sure i want to get paid for my work.. but at what expense?
Jan 12 20:26:44 <Bugpowder>	JSTOR isn't paying the authors of the work
Jan 12 20:26:52 <Ukto>	the government killed him. with their inadequat copyright system
Jan 12 20:27:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16 @ 0.00455459 = 0.0729 BTC [+]
Jan 12 20:27:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 484 @ 0.00459701 = 2.225 BTC [+]
Jan 12 20:28:50 <mircea_popescu>	what Bugpowder said
Jan 12 20:28:58 <mircea_popescu>	it has nothing to do with paying authors, this
Jan 12 20:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	it's simple extortion.
Jan 12 20:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	i wanna see terrorism charges against jstor now.
Jan 12 20:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	some asswipe can burn themselves with mcdo coffee and get a ton in civil
Jan 12 20:29:58 <Bugpowder>	most of these journals charge to publish in them
Jan 12 20:30:07 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: actually i believe that they settled. they didnt "win"
Jan 12 20:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	i wanna see jstor hauled off to jail like, completely. charged with murder 1, let the judge decide.
Jan 12 20:30:16 <Ukto>	no precident was made. on the mcd coffee
Jan 12 20:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	how many people work for them ? a coupla hundred ? should make a nice trial.
Jan 12 20:31:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00452444 = 2.4884 BTC [-]
Jan 12 20:31:52 <thestringpuller>	ive done it
Jan 12 20:32:06 <thestringpuller>	automated transfer to bank
Jan 12 20:32:22 <thestringpuller>	woot i can spend btc on mcd coffee now
Jan 12 20:32:46 <Bugpowder>	There is some value that top journals like Nature provide, via good editorial staff, reviewers, etc, and its reasonable that they have the right to charge for access to the papers, for a time long enough to encourage revenue from the 'professionals'  but short enough so that the public can access publicly funded research for free.
Jan 12 20:33:37 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 12 20:33:38 <Bugpowder>	most of the shit on JSTOR is old though
Jan 12 20:33:47 <Bugpowder>	like I bet the mean age is 30 years old
Jan 12 20:34:26 <Bugpowder>	After 3-6 months, that shit should be public
Jan 12 20:34:49 <Bugpowder>	if your business model doesn't allow it, then let google do it for you
Jan 12 20:35:41 <Bugpowder>	and shut down your service
Jan 12 20:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	if your "business model" doesn't allow it you'ren ot in business
Jan 12 20:36:39 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 12 20:36:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.27395, Best ask: 14.29500, Bid-ask spread: 0.02105, Last trade: 14.27395, 24 hour volume: 26689.26805920, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.33800, 24 hour vwap: 14.16793
Jan 12 20:42:02 <Bugpowder>	So.  What do you think the next trade of S.BBET will go off at?
Jan 12 20:42:07 <Bugpowder>	>150 or under?
Jan 12 20:42:42 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
Jan 12 20:42:50 <mircea_popescu>	but i mean... its easy to do either way lol
Jan 12 20:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	just sell/buy some
Jan 12 20:43:08 <Bugpowder>	this is why its not on bitbet
Jan 12 20:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Jan 12 20:43:39 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea
Jan 12 20:43:55 <Bugpowder>	too easy to manipulate
Jan 12 20:43:59 <Bugpowder>	I'm just polling here
Jan 12 20:47:13 <Bugpowder>	duck
Jan 12 20:47:13 <Bugpowder>	fuck
Jan 12 20:47:20 <Bugpowder>	Dever loses
Jan 12 20:47:28 <Bugpowder>	Denver
Jan 12 20:47:42 <Bugpowder>	shit
Jan 12 20:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 731 @ 0.00452444 = 3.3074 BTC [-]
Jan 12 20:48:28 <Bugpowder>	odds were 2:9
Jan 12 20:49:37 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 12 20:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	“There are only two options to deal with the debt limit: Congress can pay its bills or it can fail to act and put the nation into default," Carney said.
Jan 12 20:50:04 <thestringpuller>	duck tales woohoo
Jan 12 20:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	fucking bullshit this
Jan 12 20:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	THEY ARE NOT CONGRESS' BILLS!!!
Jan 12 20:50:32 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 12 20:50:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.27391, Best ask: 14.27395, Bid-ask spread: 0.00004, Last trade: 14.27396, 24 hour volume: 26546.17593283, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.33800, 24 hour vwap: 14.16749
Jan 12 20:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	"When congressional Republicans played politics with this issue last time, putting us at the edge of default, it was a blow to our economic recovery, causing our nation’s credit rating to be downgraded.  The president and the American people won’t tolerate congressional Republicans holding the American economy hostage again simply so they can force disastrous cuts to Medicare and other programs the middle class dep
Jan 12 20:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	end on while protecting the wealthy. Congress needs to do its job.”
Jan 12 20:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	since when the fuck does the president "tolerate" congress
Jan 12 20:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	what the heck is going on in that failed state omg!
Jan 12 20:52:03 <Bugpowder>	All spending bills must originate in the house
Jan 12 20:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	i see massive upside for btc in 2013.
Jan 12 20:54:02 <Bugpowder>	who the fuck doesn't
Jan 12 20:54:05 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 12 20:54:10 <Bugpowder>	a lot of people actually
Jan 12 20:54:22 <Bugpowder>	but really
Jan 12 20:54:42 <Bugpowder>	I just keep seeing my bitcoin investments increasing exponentially in $ terms
Jan 12 20:54:55 <Bugpowder>	Is good
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Jan 12 20:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder back in like august i wrote a piece about "how do the jooz make money"
Jan 12 20:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	showing sometyhing like in april 1bn s.mpoe x 9k satoshi x 5 usd per btc x 3 ron / usd = x
Jan 12 20:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	and then in august 1bn x 27k satoshi x 11 usd/btc x 3.5 ron/ usd = many times x
Jan 12 20:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile it has been further invalidated.
Jan 12 21:00:57 <kakobrekla>	https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=1041.msg3093#msg3093
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Jan 12 21:02:44 <Bugpowder>	what is the ron unit?
Jan 12 21:02:45 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 12 21:02:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.20001, Best ask: 14.27000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06999, Last trade: 14.20001, 24 hour volume: 26605.19759356, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.33800, 24 hour vwap: 14.16738
Jan 12 21:04:43 <mircea_popescu>	romanian leu
Jan 12 21:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	Lukas met with Tom yesterday to discuss the transfer of ownership.  We followed up that meeting with a request to meet in the evening so that we could provide a cash-out offer.  He declined the meeting and let us know that we could meet today.
Jan 12 21:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	Today, he has not responded to any of our attempts to contact him.  No one was at home, his was not at his office.  At this time, Tom's whereabouts are unknown to us.
Jan 12 21:06:43 <mircea_popescu>	this sounds kinda bad.
Jan 12 21:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 5 @ 0.14775821 = 0.7388 BTC [+]
Jan 12 21:12:48 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU
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Jan 12 21:15:29 <Bugpowder>	With regard to BTC refunds, I have sent all refund requests to Tom for processing.  I have also processed all credit card refund requests at this time.  I can't guarantee that the funds were there to back these refunds - I have no way to know this, and Tom never confirmed having done the bank transfer.  At this point, if you are thinking of sending me a refund request, I recommend you do a chargeback instead.
Jan 12 21:17:41 <Bugpowder>	I am impressed
Jan 12 21:22:05 <Azelphur>	bASIC?
Jan 12 21:25:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00455927 = 3.1915 BTC [+]
Jan 12 21:27:40 <Bugpowder>	total scam
Jan 12 21:33:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 35 @ 0.42 = 14.7 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 21:33:34 <kakobrekla>	zomgbbq https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136044.msg1450671;topicseen#msg1450671
Jan 12 21:34:00 <kakobrekla>	shit keeps getting weirder
Jan 12 21:39:11 <Ukto>	what abou tit?
Jan 12 21:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder not a scam to start with, just some dumbass sering the bfl scam and thinking why not me
Jan 12 21:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	then full blown scam.
Jan 12 21:44:24 <Bugpowder>	I think we finally found an exchange that is uglier than MPEX
Jan 12 21:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	we ?!
Jan 12 21:45:05 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder :DD
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Jan 12 22:00:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [-]
Jan 12 22:00:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0064 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:10:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0068 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	Send the corresponding amount in uncolored bitcoins to 1FL8nGQzRF6j39566viJQ12KnYeBY9kurm
Jan 12 22:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	Notify us on notification11122@dudmail.com and include the address where you want to receive the colored coins.
Jan 12 22:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	this sounds promising.
Jan 12 22:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.002 = 2 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:12:40 <mircea_popescu>	seems it was over 15
Jan 12 22:16:32 <Bugpowder>	ha!
Jan 12 22:16:37 <Bugpowder>	I continue to win
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Jan 12 22:16:42 <Bugpowder>	those are my shares
Jan 12 22:16:57 <kakobrekla>	what did you pay for em?
Jan 12 22:17:15 <Bugpowder>	average of .000652
Jan 12 22:17:28 <Bugpowder>	but a range from .5-1.0
Jan 12 22:17:43 <kakobrekla>	not bad
Jan 12 22:18:26 <Bugpowder>	I wish I got more
Jan 12 22:18:36 <Bugpowder>	nervous about regret selling at .002
Jan 12 22:20:39 <mircea_popescu>	if the forum ppl hear about this buying 6 selling 20 they may have a stroke
Jan 12 22:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	Ive been in talks with members from the Bitcoin community and thank God
Jan 12 22:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	it Looks more like the Bitcoin community itself will be buying this company - not some un-known asian company
Jan 12 22:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	so fucking ridiculous
Jan 12 22:21:23 <mircea_popescu>	HE CALLS IT SOME UNKNOWN AZN COMPANY
Jan 12 22:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	the ppl he brings in to buyout.
Jan 12 22:21:41 <Bugpowder>	the best part is...
Jan 12 22:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	the mob running las vegas in the 70s is nowherhe near as incompetent
Jan 12 22:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	as "the people" running bitcoin.
Jan 12 22:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00455927 = 2.5076 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 639 @ 0.00459701 = 2.9375 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:22:28 <Bugpowder>	is buzzdave part of btcFPGA?
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Jan 12 22:22:38 <Bugpowder>	or part of the buying group
Jan 12 22:22:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.002 = 2 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	he's part of the people getting fucked in the ass (tm)
Jan 12 22:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	this is how these scams unwind, pirate ruined a bunch of names which hung on to him for no reason
Jan 12 22:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	other than the sickly desire of attention social media builds in kids.
Jan 12 22:26:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 127 @ 0.00459701 = 0.5838 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:26:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 899 @ 0.00462102 = 4.1543 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:26:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
Jan 12 22:27:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.4009 = 4.009 BTC [-]
Jan 12 22:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	These new people have a few things the project can really use: active involvement with Bitcoin, technical expertise, connections, experience, money.  No its not any of our competitors.  You will learn who the players are only when the deal is done and everything is nailed down.
Jan 12 22:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	Due to the delay with chip fab, the new team believes we *must* provide proof-of-tech.  Tomorrow I will post up a hard date by which we will deliver a video showing a hashing unit.  This will not be a production unit, but it will show that the hard work has been done (the chips work, the PCB design is complete).
Jan 12 22:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	so tom is walking away but the chips work abnd the pcb is complete.
Jan 12 22:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	lordy.
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Jan 12 22:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00452787 = 5.4334 BTC [-]
Jan 12 22:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1577 @ 0.00462102 = 7.2873 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:40:53 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: well it makes sense.
Jan 12 22:40:55 <Ukto>	you work on a project
Jan 12 22:41:10 <Ukto>	get it to a succesful place, then dissapear.
Jan 12 22:41:11 <Ukto>	drop he ball
Jan 12 22:41:17 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 12 22:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	ya im sure people do this all the time
Jan 12 22:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	because stress and click buffers.
Jan 12 22:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	just like bfl, the chips are ready no wait we're redoing the design
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Jan 12 22:53:50 <Ukto>	although.. even if bfl was a long con.. by now ppl have probably stopped putting money in I would think
Jan 12 22:54:33 <Ukto>	showing up with a box of fans and nothing at a convention.. at least it shows they are not just taking and runing and afraid of saying 'i havenothing to show at the moment' and scaring off possible investors
Jan 12 22:54:41 <Ukto>	from one point of view
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Jan 12 22:55:00 <kakobrekla>	haha some fun bets on bitbet just poped
Jan 12 22:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	pirate went to vegas
Jan 12 22:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	there's an exhibitionist angle in most scammers.
Jan 12 22:55:18 <Ukto>	hmm that is true
Jan 12 22:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	in fact, i think the girl's june date is just about like she said september about pirate at the outer edge
Jan 12 22:56:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3318 @ 0.00462102 = 15.3325 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 888 @ 0.00462103 = 4.1035 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00462556 = 8.5573 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2950 @ 0.00462874 = 13.6548 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00463215 = 3.2425 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00463678 = 7.187 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1276 @ 0.0046371 = 5.9169 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.0046373 = 13.4482 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3400 @ 0.00464814 = 15.8037 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00465244 = 1.3957 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00465486 = 6.7495 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00466218 = 3.0304 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00466792 = 5.8349 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00466833 = 4.4349 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00467187 = 6.7742 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00467874 = 4.6787 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 348 @ 0.00468482 = 1.6303 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00468761 = 1.4063 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00469235 = 3.05 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00469341 = 2.5814 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00470507 = 8.2339 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1144 @ 0.00470807 = 5.386 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00471703 = 1.8868 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00472245 = 5.9031 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00472495 = 6.1424 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00472684 = 8.0356 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1220 @ 0.00472805 = 5.7682 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 919 @ 0.00472828 = 4.3453 BTC [+]
Jan 12 22:59:28 <Bugpowder>	ROLL TIDE
Jan 12 23:00:24 <Bugpowder>	people need to learn to fund the fucking proposal
Jan 12 23:00:32 <Bugpowder>	otherwise whats the point
Jan 12 23:01:42 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 12 23:01:42 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 12 23:01:47 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 12 23:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00452444 / 0.00459854 / 0.00472828 (192194 shares, 883.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00430002 / 0.00467394 / 0.0048 (1909355 shares, 8,924.22 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00350031 / 0.0048 (14545216 shares, 50,912.81 BTC)
Jan 12 23:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder to fund wha ?
Jan 12 23:03:10 <Bugpowder>	"some fun bets on bitbet just poped"
Jan 12 23:03:14 <Bugpowder>	like
Jan 12 23:03:17 <Bugpowder>	come on dude
Jan 12 23:03:20 <Bugpowder>	dudes
Jan 12 23:03:30 <Bugpowder>	If you have a sharp time decay
Jan 12 23:03:35 <Bugpowder>	and want to make money
Jan 12 23:03:46 <Bugpowder>	put 5 down on both sides and collect bank
Jan 12 23:03:47 <Bugpowder>	jeeze
Jan 12 23:04:14 <Bugpowder>	at least for these microbets
Jan 12 23:04:22 <Bugpowder>	that are pure chance
Jan 12 23:04:42 <Bugpowder>	I guess I could do it myself
Jan 12 23:05:16 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 12 23:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.002 / 0.002 / 0.002 (2148 shares, 4.30 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00068136 / 0.0035 (1993241 shares, 1,358.13 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00068136 / 0.0035 (1993241 shares, 1,358.13 BTC)
Jan 12 23:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	i guess for many peoples it's an income thing, propose a bet, get it accepted, make some .btc
Jan 12 23:05:56 <Bugpowder>	how much do you make by doing that?
Jan 12 23:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	well on average about .05
Jan 12 23:08:41 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 12 23:08:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.17001, Best ask: 14.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 14.17001, 24 hour volume: 24989.69632575, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.33800, 24 hour vwap: 14.16527
Jan 12 23:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00469469 = 2.8168 BTC [-]
Jan 12 23:23:44 <kakobrekla>	Kluge cant afford a can of air.
Jan 12 23:23:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00452444 = 2.2622 BTC [-]
Jan 12 23:24:27 <mircea_popescu>	sorry ?
Jan 12 23:24:36 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136204.msg1450835;topicseen#msg1450835
Jan 12 23:24:41 <kakobrekla>	> Can't afford a new can of air.
Jan 12 23:25:02 <kakobrekla>	gotta be some expencive shit i guess
Jan 12 23:25:14 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Jan 12 23:25:18 <Diablo-D3>	so basic blew up?
Jan 12 23:25:24 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: heh, ever since that new federal law, yes it is
Jan 12 23:25:27 <Diablo-D3>	the anti-huffing law
Jan 12 23:25:33 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 12 23:25:37 <Diablo-D3>	(even though you cant huff canned air)
Jan 12 23:25:56 <Diablo-D3>	I used to get a six pack of canned air for 12 dollars
Jan 12 23:26:00 <Diablo-D3>	now its 3 for 12
Jan 12 23:26:19 <kakobrekla>	it it at least clean?
Jan 12 23:26:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00452444 = 9.7275 BTC [-]
Jan 12 23:26:37 <Diablo-D3>	I quit buying canned air, I use an air compressor now
Jan 12 23:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 yes. big time
Jan 12 23:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1212 @ 0.00452444 = 5.4836 BTC [-]
Jan 12 23:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3788 @ 0.00452443 = 17.1385 BTC [-]
Jan 12 23:27:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.73 = 2.92 BTC [+]
Jan 12 23:27:49 <mircea_popescu>	i prefer canned screams
Jan 12 23:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	adds vibration effect.
Jan 12 23:28:54 <Diablo-D3>	okay so
Jan 12 23:28:56 <Diablo-D3>	if basic is out
Jan 12 23:28:58 <Diablo-D3>	and bfl is a scam
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Jan 12 23:29:11 <Diablo-D3>	and avalon wont be shipping until late feb
Jan 12 23:29:17 <Diablo-D3>	asicminer wins by default?
Jan 12 23:29:23 <Ukto>	sounds like it
Jan 12 23:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	if they mine.
Jan 12 23:29:39 <mircea_popescu>	so far we have a list of 4-5 scams of which one blew and the motherlode is blowing
Jan 12 23:29:45 <kakobrekla>	asic miner will make lots of coin prolly
Jan 12 23:29:50 <kakobrekla>	most possibly
Jan 12 23:29:53 <kakobrekla>	of them asics
Jan 12 23:29:59 <kakobrekla>	but there are 2 more players
Jan 12 23:30:09 <kakobrekla>	not taking preorders
Jan 12 23:30:23 <Bugpowder>	I have seen no evidence that asicminer has working asices
Jan 12 23:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	they had some pix of a mishandled chip strip
Jan 12 23:31:30 <Bugpowder>	I saw that
Jan 12 23:31:42 <Bugpowder>	and some text in a forum post
Jan 12 23:31:55 <mircea_popescu>	well, they were supposed to be ready in a week 10 days ago
Jan 12 23:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	and i guess the sending prototypes to community was silently dropped
Jan 12 23:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	so...
Jan 12 23:32:12 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Jan 12 23:32:15 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 216319 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 1408 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2896792.17443539 | Estimated Percent Change: -10.8555786234
Jan 12 23:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	who knows at this point.
Jan 12 23:32:20 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 12 23:32:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.476 BTC [+]
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Jan 12 23:33:12 <Bugpowder>	at this rate I might actually take the time to claim my gigamining shares
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Jan 12 23:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	Hi all!
Jan 12 23:33:57 <mircea_popescu>	Coinster.info is a new search engine, the world's first specifically for crypto-currencies like Bitcoin. However, giving users a search engine isn't the main goal. Coinster is meant to be a connection platform, with emphasis on connecting people locally to trade goods and services.
Jan 12 23:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Jan 12 23:34:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0396 BTC
Jan 12 23:34:26 <mircea_popescu>	diff droppingwowzer.
Jan 12 23:34:41 <Bugpowder>	search for mpex on coinster
Jan 12 23:34:45 <Bugpowder>	nothing
Jan 12 23:34:47 <Bugpowder>	:O(
Jan 12 23:34:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.0069 = 0.0621 BTC [-]
Jan 12 23:35:02 <kakobrekla>	whos mpex?
Jan 12 23:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	https://nastyfans.org/logo.jpg
Jan 12 23:37:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol @ Bugpowder graph
Jan 12 23:37:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://brainwindows.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mpexschematic.jpg
Jan 12 23:37:48 <Bugpowder>	I tried to make it as accurate as possible
Jan 12 23:39:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00452443 = 8.5964 BTC [-]
Jan 12 23:40:09 <Bugpowder>	San Francisco with the big win
Jan 12 23:40:11 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 12 23:40:22 <Bugpowder>	I have probably officially lost my office NFL pool.
Jan 12 23:40:40 <Bugpowder>	hopefully I can make up for the losses with coin wins.
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Jan 12 23:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	hehe are you ahead in bets ?
Jan 12 23:49:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Jan 12 23:49:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.476 = 2.38 BTC [+]
Jan 12 23:51:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00452443 = 1.3573 BTC [-]
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Jan 12 23:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1012 @ 0.00452443 = 4.5787 BTC [-]
Jan 12 23:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00452105 = 2.9387 BTC [-]
Jan 12 23:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1693 @ 0.00451817 = 7.6493 BTC [-]
Jan 12 23:56:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC
Jan 13 00:00:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 44 @ 0.0068 = 0.2992 BTC [+]
Jan 13 00:01:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 502 @ 0.00456647 = 2.2924 BTC [+]
Jan 13 00:05:17 <Ukto>	speaking of jiggamining
Jan 13 00:05:34 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: did you ever figure out the whole PT stuff for that?
Jan 13 00:05:39 <Ukto>	or just left it as it was for now?
Jan 13 00:05:55 <Ukto>	just curious
Jan 13 00:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	not much to figure out tbh
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Jan 13 00:12:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 598 @ 0.00458615 = 2.7425 BTC [+]
Jan 13 00:13:27 <Ukto>	its still at the not claiming point right?
Jan 13 00:14:36 <Ukto>	or did you guys work that out
Jan 13 00:16:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.476 BTC [+]
Jan 13 00:20:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+]
Jan 13 00:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	still exactly where it was in like early dec or w/ee
Jan 13 00:27:14 <Ukto>	kk
Jan 13 00:37:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 602 @ 0.00456741 = 2.7496 BTC [-]
Jan 13 00:49:35 <mod6>	how's it goin tonight -assets?
Jan 13 00:49:37 <mod6>	:D
Jan 13 00:55:29 <mircea_popescu>	plenty of drama today
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Jan 13 00:59:18 <mod6>	ya, saw some.
Jan 13 00:59:31 <Namworld>	really? What drama?
Jan 13 00:59:42 <Diablo-D3>	well
Jan 13 00:59:47 <Diablo-D3>	aaronsw committed suicide
Jan 13 01:00:24 <mod6>	ya that
Jan 13 01:00:44 <Diablo-D3>	and basic is apparently a scam
Jan 13 01:00:59 <mod6>	ahh, yah right.
Jan 13 01:01:10 <mod6>	and.. i even saw a post on btctalk from usagi!
Jan 13 01:01:20 <Diablo-D3>	yeah hes been posting again
Jan 13 01:01:50 <mod6>	heh
Jan 13 01:02:15 <Namworld>	How can you be sure he has?
Jan 13 01:02:54 <mod6>	well, whomever it was posted it with usagi's account
Jan 13 01:03:21 <Namworld>	the other thing =/
Jan 13 01:05:00 <Namworld>	and who is he?
Jan 13 01:07:23 <drug_motor>	http://tinysong.com/jjqC
Jan 13 01:07:35 <Namworld>	Also, what about basic? As for Usagi, I'm pretty unmoved. He started getting active again and paying some BTC on his stocks. That's at least some more I'll be getting back.
Jan 13 01:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=1041.msg3094#new
Jan 13 01:08:52 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Jan 13 01:08:58 <Diablo-D3>	well, sadly, DMC's dividend was paid to him
Jan 13 01:15:19 <Namworld>	eh
Jan 13 01:18:26 <mircea_popescu>	and bitbet past 750
Jan 13 01:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	and check out the action on this baby http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Jan 13 01:21:44 <mod6>	oh that one got some attention quick!
Jan 13 01:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Jan 13 01:23:52 <mod6>	i was just reading about the btcfpga stuff.
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Jan 13 01:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	sad huh
Jan 13 01:25:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1047 @ 0.00461927 = 4.8364 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 01:26:02 <mod6>	ya.. i was wonderin if it would go the same as BFL
Jan 13 01:28:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.3206 = 4.809 BTC [-]
Jan 13 01:28:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.3205 = 4.8075 BTC [-]
Jan 13 01:28:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 35 @ 0.3204 = 11.214 BTC [-]
Jan 13 01:28:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 35 @ 0.3202 = 11.207 BTC [-]
Jan 13 01:28:52 <Diablo-D3>	LOL
Jan 13 01:28:55 <Diablo-D3>	DOWN IT GOES
Jan 13 01:29:13 <mod6>	ya, there you have it i guess.
Jan 13 01:29:37 <Diablo-D3>	its going down harder than... YOUR MOM.
Jan 13 01:29:37 <mircea_popescu>	o ity's actually listed ?!
Jan 13 01:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker b basic
Jan 13 01:29:47 <assbot>	Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
Jan 13 01:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker b basic-mining
Jan 13 01:29:50 <assbot>	I cooked, I cleaned, and I sewed, and I have a right to get--
Jan 13 01:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc basic-mining
Jan 13 01:29:58 <mod6>	haha
Jan 13 01:30:01 <assbot>	[BTCT:BASIC-MINING] 1D: 0.3202 / 0.3218 / 0.33 (117 shares, 37.6 BTC),  7D: 0.3105 / 0.33 / 0.33 (379 shares, 123.8 BTC), 30D: 0.3105 / 0.33 / 0.33 (1163 shares, 382.4 BTC)
Jan 13 01:30:15 <mircea_popescu>	is this actually btcfpga stock ?!
Jan 13 01:30:19 <mod6>	oh wow
Jan 13 01:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	400 btc volume in a month ?!
Jan 13 01:31:36 <thestringpuller>	when is bitvps gonna get their shit together
Jan 13 01:32:06 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.BVPS
Jan 13 01:32:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  /  /  ( shares,  BTC), 30D: 0.00200003 / 0.0033336 / 0.0067 (13238 shares, 44.13 BTC)
Jan 13 01:32:09 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: preorder shit
Jan 13 01:32:15 <mod6>	Namworld says he's gonna do it.
Jan 13 01:32:18 <Diablo-D3>	do what
Jan 13 01:32:32 <mod6>	that was to thestringpuller's q
Jan 13 01:32:39 <mod6>	run bitvps
Jan 13 01:33:36 <mod6>	and they have colored monthly statements going forward.
Jan 13 01:33:50 <mod6>	so that helps
Jan 13 01:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00470763 = 4.0015 BTC [+]
Jan 13 01:35:42 <mod6>	and iirc there are still >100 active vps'
Jan 13 01:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 3000 @ 0.002 = 6 BTC [+]
Jan 13 01:39:06 <thestringpuller>	mod6 lets talk
Jan 13 01:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	whoa nelly
Jan 13 01:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 253.84 / 254.98
Jan 13 01:42:34 <gribble>	0.995529061103
Jan 13 01:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	tightest odds you've ever seen
Jan 13 01:43:49 <mod6>	yeah, it really narrowed quick after that stock dump lol
Jan 13 01:44:28 <thestringpuller>	253 to 254?
Jan 13 01:45:21 <thestringpuller>	icbit.se will shutdown lol
Jan 13 01:45:41 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,diff
Jan 13 01:45:42 <gribble>	3249549.5844872
Jan 13 01:46:54 <thestringpuller>	Network Difficulty under 20 million for 2 months...isn't that like a futures?
Jan 13 01:47:34 <Namworld>	Indeed. But that goes with expenses. Seems like we'll have a lot of expenses in the following months.
Jan 13 01:50:51 <thestringpuller>	Monte Carlo Method vs. Black-Scholes Model
Jan 13 01:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller sort of like a future syeah
Jan 13 01:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 what stock dump ?
Jan 13 01:51:19 <mircea_popescu>	bfl isn;t listed anywhere is it ?
Jan 13 01:52:42 <mod6>	oh no. my bad.
Jan 13 01:52:55 <mod6>	sorry, got cornfused.
Jan 13 02:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0006458 = 4.9727 BTC [-]
Jan 13 02:01:44 <thestringpuller>	mpoe is gonna crasssssh when Smickles launches his bot
Jan 13 02:06:56 <mod6>	hmm
Jan 13 02:07:05 <thestringpuller>	i kid I kid
Jan 13 02:07:17 *	mod6 armwrestles with AWS
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Jan 13 02:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 641 @ 0.00470763 = 3.0176 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 02:26:02 <mod6>	ok sweet. darn you 'nobootwait' flag!
Jan 13 02:26:08 *	mod6 shakes fist
Jan 13 02:27:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0069 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 02:28:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [+]
Jan 13 02:30:51 <mod6>	ok nice, now i've got my new vols attached finally.
Jan 13 02:30:52 <mod6>	/dev/xvdf             197G  188M  187G   1% /mnt/extVol
Jan 13 02:31:19 <mod6>	kinda new to this AWS stuff
Jan 13 02:32:48 <mod6>	:D
Jan 13 02:32:55 <mod6>	time for a lunch break
Jan 13 02:46:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 859 @ 0.00462544 = 3.9733 BTC [-]
Jan 13 02:49:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00463298 = 6.4862 BTC [+]
Jan 13 02:49:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 73 @ 0.00464434 = 0.339 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 03:22:34 <mod6>	;;ticker
Jan 13 03:22:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.20001, Best ask: 14.26321, Bid-ask spread: 0.06320, Last trade: 14.20001, 24 hour volume: 17059.92244125, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.31173, 24 hour vwap: 14.13523
Jan 13 03:24:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00462763 = 1.8511 BTC [-]
Jan 13 03:38:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 670 @ 0.00063814 = 0.4276 BTC [-]
Jan 13 03:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.000631 = 0.4417 BTC [-]
Jan 13 03:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7343 @ 0.00063 = 4.6261 BTC [-]
Jan 13 03:58:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 327 @ 0.00464434 = 1.5187 BTC [+]
Jan 13 04:09:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
Jan 13 04:10:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
Jan 13 04:11:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 479 @ 0.01 = 4.79 BTC [+]
Jan 13 04:11:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 21 @ 0.01 = 0.21 BTC [+]
Jan 13 04:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00472828 = 0.9457 BTC [+]
Jan 13 04:19:35 <Namworld>	BTC-BOND, always a nice choice
Jan 13 04:20:15 <Schadenfreude>	Figured it's the safest one - 0.03% no matter what and you're plausible
Jan 13 04:20:21 <Namworld>	</self promotiom>
Jan 13 04:20:48 <Schadenfreude>	Unlike the guy from ESECURITYSABTC - 1.3% a week ontop of being afiliated with a company that hosts HYIP scams for a living
Jan 13 04:21:30 <Namworld>	It's not ridiculous if he funds servers with the funds... but I don't see why anyone would borrow at that rate.
Jan 13 04:22:19 <Schadenfreude>	With you... 10% a year, a borrower can live with that and it's above inflation for me, but 70%?!
Jan 13 04:24:09 <Namworld>	Well the server will save you a lot in monthly rent of server.
Jan 13 04:24:49 <Namworld>	Usually will save you more than the server cost within a year.
Jan 13 04:25:05 <Namworld>	But again, still very high... why would anyone borrow at those rates?
Jan 13 04:25:26 <Namworld>	If they can borrow for much cheaper...
Jan 13 04:25:31 <Namworld>	Just a lost of profits.
Jan 13 04:25:51 <Schadenfreude>	I emailed him, he replies from admin@koddos.com, company exists and operates, but those rates...
Jan 13 04:26:21 <Schadenfreude>	It's the main reason I haven't invested anything significant in him yet
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Jan 13 04:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 873 @ 0.00467921 = 4.085 BTC [-]
Jan 13 04:34:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 243 @ 0.00467684 = 1.1365 BTC [-]
Jan 13 04:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 57 @ 0.00472828 = 0.2695 BTC [+]
Jan 13 04:43:44 *	EskimoBob yawns
Jan 13 04:43:57 <EskimoBob>	good morning. What's new?
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Jan 13 04:45:55 <Schadenfreude>	Cofounder of reddit commited suicide
Jan 13 04:46:07 <TradeFortress>	yup.
Jan 13 04:46:17 <Schadenfreude>	And I'm trying to get to the bottom of the ESECURITYSABTC bond
Jan 13 04:46:51 <Schadenfreude>	If it proves to be legit, there are enough bonds left to invest, if not, it'll be hopefully gone
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Jan 13 04:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 508 @ 0.00472828 = 2.402 BTC [+]
Jan 13 04:49:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 342 @ 0.00472867 = 1.6172 BTC [+]
Jan 13 04:50:23 <EskimoBob>	LOL, now this confused sociopath thinks mpex is a standard.. fkn funny...ROFL
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Jan 13 04:51:40 <Schadenfreude>	MPEX itself isn't that bad, its PR-chick is terrible at PR tho
Jan 13 04:53:29 <Namworld>	agreed
Jan 13 04:54:09 <Schadenfreude>	I mean MPEX is great for some corporate guy or banker to get into BTC, because that kind of setup is familiar to him
Jan 13 04:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00464027 = 3.0162 BTC [-]
Jan 13 04:57:51 <EskimoBob>	Schadenfreude: LOL, who told you that?
Jan 13 05:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00464027 = 0.464 BTC [-]
Jan 13 05:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.0046402 = 5.8003 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 05:04:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 358 @ 0.00472867 = 1.6929 BTC [+]
Jan 13 05:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 592 @ 0.00472883 = 2.7995 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 05:37:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 779 @ 0.0046402 = 3.6147 BTC [-]
Jan 13 05:37:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 78 @ 0.007 = 0.546 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 05:46:20 <FabianB_>	Current weight: 78`758 ( from 100`000 to 90`000 ) <-- how can that be kakobrekla ?
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Jan 13 05:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	now that's an excellent question
Jan 13 05:54:36 <FabianB_>	I guess it's a bug
Jan 13 05:56:50 <markedathome>	OOI whatever happened to the glbse prediction market?
Jan 13 05:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ looks that way. got top of the list placing.
Jan 13 05:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome whassat ?
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Jan 13 05:58:30 <markedathome>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77859.0
Jan 13 06:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	i guess nothing.
Jan 13 06:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	The problem with prediction markets is the market maker.  If it is automated like the one that is on the GLBSE prediction market now then it will eventually lose money.  That model is only used by places that don't use real money.
Jan 13 06:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	maybe stochastic has a point.
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Jan 13 06:57:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 07:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 158 @ 0.00472883 = 0.7472 BTC [+]
Jan 13 07:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 820 @ 0.00473131 = 3.8797 BTC [+]
Jan 13 07:03:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 563 @ 0.0047327 = 2.6645 BTC [+]
Jan 13 07:06:19 <Anduck>	wow
Jan 13 07:06:23 <Anduck>	nice price on S.DICE
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Jan 13 07:14:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 07:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.0046402 = 3.0161 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 07:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 871 @ 0.0046402 = 4.0416 BTC [-]
Jan 13 07:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 229 @ 0.00462763 = 1.0597 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 07:58:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 37 @ 0.72 = 26.64 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 08:06:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0075 BTC [+]
Jan 13 08:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0046677 = 3.2674 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 08:18:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 08:24:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.0046677 = 3.5008 BTC [+]
Jan 13 08:24:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 333 @ 0.0047084 = 1.5679 BTC [+]
Jan 13 08:27:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 9 @ 0.725 = 6.525 BTC [+]
Jan 13 08:28:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7298 BTC [+]
Jan 13 08:29:40 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 13 08:29:40 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 13 08:29:51 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 13 08:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00451817 / 0.004595 / 0.0047327 (164086 shares, 753.98 BTC), 7D: 0.004312 / 0.00467435 / 0.0048 (1932989 shares, 9,035.48 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00350396 / 0.0048 (14420178 shares, 50,527.77 BTC)
Jan 13 08:29:53 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 13 08:29:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.06001, Best ask: 14.07999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01998, Last trade: 14.06001, 24 hour volume: 19688.90890260, 24 hour low: 14.03100, 24 hour high: 14.30000, 24 hour vwap: 14.13645
Jan 13 08:29:59 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 13 08:30:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.002 / 0.002 / 0.002 (5000 shares, 1.00 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00068334 / 0.0035 (1996241 shares, 1,364.13 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00068334 / 0.0035 (1996241 shares, 1,364.13 BTC)
Jan 13 08:33:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2657 @ 0.00063 = 1.6739 BTC [-]
Jan 13 08:33:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062773 = 0.6277 BTC [-]
Jan 13 08:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1490 @ 0.00062772 = 0.9353 BTC [-]
Jan 13 08:33:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00062772 = 1.3515 BTC [-]
Jan 13 08:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 473 @ 0.00462763 = 2.1889 BTC [-]
Jan 13 08:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 77 @ 0.00460812 = 0.3548 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 09:16:35 <pigeons>	!milk
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Jan 13 09:22:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00462342 = 1.6182 BTC [+]
Jan 13 09:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.0047084 = 2.1188 BTC [+]
Jan 13 09:28:31 <Schadenfreude>	;;ticker
Jan 13 09:28:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.97100, Best ask: 13.98498, Bid-ask spread: 0.01398, Last trade: 13.98498, 24 hour volume: 31970.49983009, 24 hour low: 13.97000, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.12113
Jan 13 09:29:02 <Schadenfreude>	Lets see where it stabilizes
Jan 13 09:30:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
Jan 13 09:30:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.315 = 0.945 BTC [-]
Jan 13 09:30:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.301 = 1.806 BTC [-]
Jan 13 09:31:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.301 = 1.505 BTC [-]
Jan 13 09:31:39 <FabianB>	everybody panic sell!
Jan 13 09:31:47 <FabianB>	(cheaper coins for me :) )
Jan 13 09:32:27 <Schadenfreude>	BASIC-MINING itself is solid and paid dividends without any ASIC involvement, no idea why everybody abandons ship
Jan 13 09:34:38 <FabianB>	will they continue to be profitable if basic never ships? (very likely)
Jan 13 09:34:39 <Schadenfreude>	Lets see where ESECURITY will sail now that all shares are on the open market
Jan 13 09:35:17 <Schadenfreude>	Most mining bonds/stocks decline in profit over time, that's the problem
Jan 13 09:37:20 <Schadenfreude>	Though I assume an ASIC bond bought at the beginning of ASIC operation and sold not too late might be a good idea
Jan 13 09:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00470839 = 4.2376 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 09:45:19 <pigeons>	How do I know I can trust bitbet? Have they won any honors I may have heard of such as the Vaguely Familiar Unicorn Award?
Jan 13 09:47:25 <FabianB>	lol
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Jan 13 10:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 348 @ 0.00467476 = 1.6268 BTC [-]
Jan 13 10:04:18 <kakobrekla>	pigeons url?
Jan 13 10:06:34 <Bugpowder>	interesting btc price action
Jan 13 10:06:43 <Bugpowder>	spike to 14.32 and back down
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Jan 13 10:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00470839 = 5.1792 BTC [+]
Jan 13 10:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 273 @ 0.0047084 = 1.2854 BTC [+]
Jan 13 10:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 256 @ 0.00472567 = 1.2098 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 10:35:59 <pigeons>	no url kakobrekla i was just wondering
Jan 13 10:36:21 <pigeons>	didnt see a slightly smoky dragon or anything
Jan 13 10:36:54 <kakobrekla>	we are a nominee for best Milk Man of 2013
Jan 13 10:37:01 <kakobrekla>	guess you need to wait till the end of the year
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Jan 13 10:37:30 <pigeons>	ok
Jan 13 10:37:53 <FabianB>	but that's assbot already, sin't it?
Jan 13 10:38:39 <kakobrekla>	assbot has the Ass Mans reward respectively.
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Jan 13 10:39:28 <kakobrekla>	And when they get together, you got milk enema.
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Jan 13 10:43:13 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 13 10:43:14 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 13 10:43:18 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 13 10:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00451817 / 0.00460512 / 0.0047327 (146127 shares, 672.93 BTC), 7D: 0.004312 / 0.00467779 / 0.0048 (1911173 shares, 8,940.08 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00350431 / 0.0048 (14424405 shares, 50,547.59 BTC)
Jan 13 10:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 484 @ 0.00468757 = 2.2688 BTC [-]
Jan 13 10:43:48 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 13 10:43:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.06003, Best ask: 14.14715, Bid-ask spread: 0.08712, Last trade: 14.06001, 24 hour volume: 32747.08161665, 24 hour low: 13.97000, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.11644
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Jan 13 11:35:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.0099 = 0.099 BTC [-]
Jan 13 11:37:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00468757 = 0.9375 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 11:56:00 <pirateat40>	sup guise, anyone up for a lucrative investment?
Jan 13 11:56:22 <kakobrekla>	where do i send?
Jan 13 11:57:22 <pirateat40>	minimum deposit 100 BTC!
Jan 13 11:57:29 <EskimoBob>	pirateat40: can I send you 50K?
Jan 13 11:57:41 <kakobrekla>	you cant do that, thats my thing.
Jan 13 11:57:55 <EskimoBob>	I only have one 50K bitcoin
Jan 13 11:58:20 <EskimoBob>	so you can send me back 4900 BTC
Jan 13 12:03:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 20 @ 0.7689 = 15.378 BTC [+]
Jan 13 12:03:23 <kakobrekla>	EskimoBob you want to invest 45100? odd number.
Jan 13 12:03:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.775 = 3.875 BTC [+]
Jan 13 12:03:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.775 = 3.875 BTC [+]
Jan 13 12:03:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00062773 = 1.8832 BTC [+]
Jan 13 12:04:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062772 = 3.9546 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 12:05:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.797 = 1.594 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 12:21:31 <PsychoticBoy>	ahhh the good times
Jan 13 12:21:41 <Bugpowder>	;;ident pirateat40
Jan 13 12:21:41 <gribble>	Nick 'pirateat40', with hostmask 'pirateat40!~m@178.115.249.183.wireless.dyn.drei.com', is not identified.
Jan 13 12:22:07 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 13 12:22:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00451817 / 0.00460915 / 0.0047327 (139111 shares, 641.18 BTC), 7D: 0.004312 / 0.00467816 / 0.0048 (1908037 shares, 8,926.11 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00350438 / 0.0048 (14422931 shares, 50,543.50 BTC)
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Jan 13 12:27:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Jan 13 12:54:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [+]
Jan 13 12:55:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 22 @ 0.007 = 0.154 BTC [+]
Jan 13 13:05:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 237 @ 0.00468757 = 1.111 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:06:43 <Bugpowder>	.007?!?
Jan 13 13:07:50 <thestringpuller>	that's gamma's
Jan 13 13:07:53 <thestringpuller>	?
Jan 13 13:10:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 944 @ 0.00472567 = 4.461 BTC [+]
Jan 13 13:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 606 @ 0.0047327 = 2.868 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 13:12:44 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 13 13:12:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.03112, Best ask: 14.13474, Bid-ask spread: 0.10362, Last trade: 14.03107, 24 hour volume: 33941.70025420, 24 hour low: 13.97000, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.11284
Jan 13 13:14:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.0047327 = 4.2594 BTC [+]
Jan 13 13:17:53 <thestringpuller>	a lot of people think the seahawks are gonna win today
Jan 13 13:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:20:35 <Bugpowder>	I do
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Jan 13 13:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1218 @ 0.0047327 = 5.7644 BTC [+]
Jan 13 13:27:58 <thestringpuller>	I hope the Falcons win
Jan 13 13:28:07 <thestringpuller>	and you lose your bet
Jan 13 13:32:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 744 @ 0.00468757 = 3.4876 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 391 @ 0.00467476 = 1.8278 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00466343 = 6.0625 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00461707 = 3.0011 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 121 @ 0.00460812 = 0.5576 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00460157 = 6.6723 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:32:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 420 @ 0.00459343 = 1.9292 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 13:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 343 @ 0.00459343 = 1.5755 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00458526 = 5.7316 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:45:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.00457135 = 0.032 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 13:51:34 <EskimoBob>	"kakobrekla | EskimoBob you want to invest 45100? odd number." what's one zero between friends .. nothing really :)
Jan 13 13:58:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 95 @ 0.0099 = 0.9405 BTC [-]
Jan 13 13:58:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0099 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
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Jan 13 14:04:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.302 BTC [+]
Jan 13 14:04:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 24 @ 0.301 = 7.224 BTC [-]
Jan 13 14:08:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.7798 = 1.5596 BTC [+]
Jan 13 14:08:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 24 @ 0.7799 = 18.7176 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 14:14:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.785 = 1.57 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 14:40:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 73 @ 0.0047327 = 0.3455 BTC [+]
Jan 13 14:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 977 @ 0.00473335 = 4.6245 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 14:51:31 *	jurov is searching the most scary mpoe-pr post for the unsystem presentation
Jan 13 14:52:01 <jurov>	anyone can share their favorite?
Jan 13 14:52:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 553 @ 0.00457135 = 2.528 BTC [-]
Jan 13 14:54:53 <dub>	can you to a talk called 'Shooting Amir in the Face'?
Jan 13 14:55:13 <dub>	I'll even write it for you
Jan 13 14:57:11 <jurov>	no, url would suffice
Jan 13 14:57:39 <jurov>	https://www.progressbar.sk/calendar/unsystem-bitcoin-conference-preview-2013
Jan 13 14:58:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 40 @ 0.406 = 16.24 BTC [-]
Jan 13 14:58:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.405 BTC [-]
Jan 13 14:58:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.401 BTC [-]
Jan 13 14:58:09 <jurov>	they are really going to put together some "bitcoin anarchist" fraction here
Jan 13 14:58:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.401 = 1.203 BTC [-]
Jan 13 14:59:36 <dub>	is Jamileh Taaki related to amir
Jan 13 15:05:11 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: looks like you're going to lose
Jan 13 15:06:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 265 @ 0.00473335 = 1.2543 BTC [+]
Jan 13 15:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00473733 = 2.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 13 15:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 985 @ 0.00473937 = 4.6683 BTC [+]
Jan 13 15:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 653 @ 0.00469701 = 3.0671 BTC [-]
Jan 13 15:07:35 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 13 15:07:44 <thestringpuller>	wooot
Jan 13 15:07:51 <thestringpuller>	not like I'm winning much anyways
Jan 13 15:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 630 @ 0.00469701 = 2.9591 BTC [-]
Jan 13 15:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 481 @ 0.00473937 = 2.2796 BTC [+]
Jan 13 15:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00474053 = 0.9481 BTC [+]
Jan 13 15:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00474383 = 2.1347 BTC [+]
Jan 13 15:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 124 @ 0.00474444 = 0.5883 BTC [+]
Jan 13 15:13:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 93 @ 0.0099 = 0.9207 BTC [-]
Jan 13 15:14:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 276 @ 0.00474444 = 1.3095 BTC [+]
Jan 13 15:14:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 568 @ 0.00474447 = 2.6949 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 15:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 184 @ 0.00474447 = 0.873 BTC [+]
Jan 13 15:29:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 748 @ 0.00474535 = 3.5495 BTC [+]
Jan 13 15:32:36 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller It's not over yet...
Jan 13 15:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	wassup
Jan 13 15:36:04 <Bugpowder>	seattle coming back
Jan 13 15:36:29 <Bugpowder>	was 20-0
Jan 13 15:36:34 <Bugpowder>	now 27-21
Jan 13 15:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	eee
Jan 13 15:37:38 <Bugpowder>	pirateat40 showed up
Jan 13 15:37:43 <Bugpowder>	did not ident
Jan 13 15:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Jan 13 15:47:17 <jurov>	yes, pirate...maybe it's that time of year again
Jan 13 15:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	someone should start a poll "Who do we hate more, Inaba or MPOE-PR"
Jan 13 15:52:36 <FabianB>	i think that pirateat40 had the same ip/isp as someone who just joined
Jan 13 15:53:38 <Bugpowder>	Schadenfredu
Jan 13 15:53:41 <Bugpowder>	yeah similar
Jan 13 15:53:46 <Bugpowder>	I don't have a log though
Jan 13 15:58:07 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder, who has posession?
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Jan 13 15:58:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is a grumpy old man who yells at kids to get off his yard
Jan 13 15:59:06 <FabianB>	17:54 -!- pirateat40 [~m@178.115.249.183.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #bitcoin-assets
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Jan 13 15:59:13 <FabianB>	17:56 < pirateat40> sup guise, anyone up for a lucrative investment?
Jan 13 15:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB it's a troll.
Jan 13 15:59:34 <FabianB>	i know
Jan 13 15:59:56 <FabianB>	a troll of Schadenfreude
Jan 13 16:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Jan 13 16:02:12 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: why have you not gotten into currency exchange?
Jan 13 16:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	same reason i haven't gotten into mining
Jan 13 16:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	no competitive advantage.
Jan 13 16:05:31 <FabianB>	maybe only if the RON were internationally widely used currency
Jan 13 16:05:55 <mircea_popescu>	the ron actually is pretty strong, as far as eu currencies go.
Jan 13 16:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	it isn't however the policy of the nbr to make it an intl reserve at all, and we're friends so, i wouldn't expose it in btc trade.
Jan 13 16:06:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 125 @ 0.002 = 0.25 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:07:18 <FabianB>	it's probably not hard for romanians to send RON converted to EUR to one of the EUR exchanges, is it?
Jan 13 16:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	not at all.
Jan 13 16:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 40 @ 0.00635541 = 0.2542 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:07:35 <FabianB>	so no need for a RON ex
Jan 13 16:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	not from that angle.
Jan 13 16:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	the us/eu people have however a need to buy ron
Jan 13 16:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40 @ 0.00063268 = 0.0253 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's a tiny currency backed by a lot of gold and the world's best (currenly) nat'l bank governor.
Jan 13 16:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 52 @ 0.00472283 = 0.2456 BTC [-]
Jan 13 16:09:20 <FabianB>	i buy btc instead
Jan 13 16:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	also works.
Jan 13 16:09:36 <FabianB>	but probably interesting if eur/us want to do business in romania
Jan 13 16:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	interesting if eur/us wants money the eur/us can't steal
Jan 13 16:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	o i mean "freeze"
Jan 13 16:11:05 <FabianB>	romania never considered the euro?
Jan 13 16:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	it did. and rejected it.
Jan 13 16:11:39 <thestringpuller>	why does mining have no competitive advantage?
Jan 13 16:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 355 @ 0.00063268 = 0.2246 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	were you asking me why mining doesn't happen or why i don;t do it ?
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Jan 13 16:16:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 898 @ 0.00472283 = 4.2411 BTC [-]
Jan 13 16:16:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 352 @ 0.00474535 = 1.6704 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov what did you pick in the end ? from mpoe-pr
Jan 13 16:18:59 <thestringpuller>	falcons win
Jan 13 16:19:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you said it has no competitive advantage could you elaborate?
Jan 13 16:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	i said I have no competitive advantage.
Jan 13 16:20:14 <thestringpuller>	wherefore?
Jan 13 16:20:33 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, something like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135552.msg1445540#msg1445540
Jan 13 16:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol not bad.
Jan 13 16:21:13 <jurov>	but there's enough time, maybe she can make a little effort in meantime
Jan 13 16:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, you're going
Jan 13 16:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	send taaki our heartfeld compliments
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Jan 13 16:21:51 <dub>	there are two taakis presenting
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Jan 13 16:22:23 <jurov>	and i'm looking into something more succinct
Jan 13 16:22:32 <jurov>	*into->for
Jan 13 16:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	Omnia In Numeris
Jan 13 16:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	jurov just ftr, MPEx doesn't care if you buldgeon people into a pulp.
Jan 13 16:23:59 <EskimoBob>	"mircea_popescu | someone should start a poll "Who do we hate more, Inaba or MPOE-PR"" - good idea! Why don't you do it yourself. No balls?
Jan 13 16:25:43 <kakobrekla>	youd seriousy go -pr over inaba?
Jan 13 16:26:58 <jurov>	someone should arrange a cagefight match. or mudfight. with full bitbet coverage.
Jan 13 16:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.thebitcointrader.com/2013/01/253-btc-3577-usd-bet-that-butterfly.html
Jan 13 16:28:13 <mircea_popescu>	the beauty of old news :D
Jan 13 16:28:27 <Diablo-D3>	do people actually hate inaba?
Jan 13 16:29:41 <EskimoBob>	probably not Diablo-D3
Jan 13 16:30:19 <EskimoBob>	I guess popescu is running out of ideas how to spam bitcointal
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Jan 13 16:32:39 <jurov>	another contender: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120119.msg1430599#msg1430599
Jan 13 16:32:45 <Diablo-D3>	I dont really hate anyone
Jan 13 16:32:51 <Diablo-D3>	Im just confused at why they did what they did
Jan 13 16:32:54 <Diablo-D3>	is it mental illness?
Jan 13 16:33:34 <dub>	he's an idiot
Jan 13 16:33:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00474535 = 0.4745 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:33:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00474591 = 5.6951 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:34:28 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, but why intentionally give up so much money?
Jan 13 16:34:33 <Diablo-D3>	same goes with nefario and the rest
Jan 13 16:34:46 <dub>	because idiot
Jan 13 16:34:53 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs
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Jan 13 16:37:23 <kakobrekla>	so fast http://i.imgur.com/fcma3.jpg
Jan 13 16:37:26 <kakobrekla>	also invisilbe
Jan 13 16:37:31 <kakobrekla>	ble
Jan 13 16:37:38 <EskimoBob>	ASIC threads are getting funnier by the pages
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Jan 13 16:38:08 <jurov>	in other news, i was being asked wrt usign coinbr to do mpex passthroughs on ltcglobal
Jan 13 16:38:16 <jurov>	"starting off with 5 BTC worth of each"
Jan 13 16:38:41 <jurov>	i was being all polite and professional... but 5BTC, orly?
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Jan 13 16:39:13 <dub>	thats like trillions of ltc tho rite?
Jan 13 16:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	jurov 5btc is a lot of ltc
Jan 13 16:40:06 <jurov>	plus, for it to be set up properly, they have to vote about it
Jan 13 16:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	o wait dub got there first
Jan 13 16:40:11 <EskimoBob>	jurov, I am just curious, what is your deal with that mpex?
Jan 13 16:40:19 <jurov>	which one?
Jan 13 16:40:34 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: what is your deal with being an uninformed troll?
Jan 13 16:40:41 <dub>	^
Jan 13 16:40:59 <EskimoBob>	who talked to you asshat with a string?
Jan 13 16:41:01 <dub>	its a disgrace to trolling
Jan 13 16:41:21 <EskimoBob>	just asked a question, no need to get all hysterical
Jan 13 16:41:25 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: you are a heckler
Jan 13 16:41:30 <thestringpuller>	you like to heckle mpex
Jan 13 16:41:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 13 16:41:46 <EskimoBob>	heckler? wtf is that?
Jan 13 16:42:41 <jurov>	anyway my deal with mpex is implementing frontend to functions that mpex later deprecates
Jan 13 16:42:49 <jurov>	first STAT, then WITHDRAW
Jan 13 16:42:49 <thestringpuller>	;;google heckler
Jan 13 16:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Jan 13 16:42:50 <gribble>	Heckler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler>; Heckler (2007) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903849/>; Heckler | We Bring Nothing To The Table: <http://www.heckler.com/>
Jan 13 16:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	stat isn't deprecated!
Jan 13 16:43:04 <jurov>	and judging from today's unhappenings, DEPOSIT is next
Jan 13 16:43:10 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: so mircea_popescu is only idiot here who plays along and pretends to listen your crap and now you are like his lap dog?
Jan 13 16:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol wtf.
Jan 13 16:43:16 <EskimoBob>	shit.. this is funny
Jan 13 16:43:20 <thestringpuller>	Lol wtf
Jan 13 16:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	this is a trollspiracy!
Jan 13 16:44:15 <FabianB>	EskimoBob: have a look at https://coinbr.com/about
Jan 13 16:44:33 *	EskimoBob yawns
Jan 13 16:44:34 <jurov>	at least stat was superseded with statjson, to give some credit
Jan 13 16:44:49 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: Did MPOE-PR piss you off so much that you want to go to thermonuclear war with MPEX?
Jan 13 16:44:58 <EskimoBob>	?
Jan 13 16:45:15 <thestringpuller>	it seems all you deep seeded hatred for MPEX is due to MPOE-PR
Jan 13 16:45:26 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: I actually feel sorry for that lonely cunt, raving at her keyboard for 1 BTC a day
Jan 13 16:45:30 <Diablo-D3>	dont let your jimmies get rustled
Jan 13 16:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 265 @ 0.00474591 = 1.2577 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00474912 = 2.8495 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:45:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00474965 = 9.4993 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:45:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 149 @ 0.00474969 = 0.7077 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:45:58 <EskimoBob>	maybe someone else can pay her 1.1 and send her to another forum
Jan 13 16:46:14 <Diablo-D3>	man, Ill pay her 1.1 a day to quit mpoe-pr and do dmc-pr
Jan 13 16:46:20 <EskimoBob>	do it.
Jan 13 16:46:29 <dub>	deep seeded?
Jan 13 16:46:31 <EskimoBob>	she probably gets less from that gypsy scumbag
Jan 13 16:46:50 <dub>	sounds like a pr0n
Jan 13 16:47:06 <Diablo-D3>	btw, itym deep seated
Jan 13 16:47:19 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: and afaik shes fucking the boss anyhow
Jan 13 16:47:51 <dub>	she gets paid while she's getting paid
Jan 13 16:47:53 <EskimoBob>	is she? I thought she is the human dildo, sent on a mission to fuck everyone in the forum
Jan 13 16:47:58 <mircea_popescu>	<Diablo-D3> man, Ill pay her 1.1 a day to quit mpoe-pr and do dmc-pr << now that's nice.
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Jan 13 16:48:25 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: "the human dildo"
Jan 13 16:49:03 *	Diablo-D3 sends idea to DC, awaits next justice league comic
Jan 13 16:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1315 @ 0.00474969 = 6.2458 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 501 @ 0.00475053 = 2.38 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:49:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1521 @ 0.00475127 = 7.2267 BTC [+]
Jan 13 16:49:48 <jurov>	ROTA vs. The Human Dildo
Jan 13 16:50:45 <EskimoBob>	ROTA... LOL!
Jan 13 16:50:52 <dub>	Human Dildo II: Deep seeding
Jan 13 16:51:06 <EskimoBob>	only human dildo I know is MPOE-PR
Jan 13 16:51:30 <dub>	there was edward penis hands
Jan 13 16:51:38 <jurov>	eskimo, srs. can't you fap outside this channel?
Jan 13 16:51:46 <jurov>	we're tired of wiping that shit
Jan 13 16:52:14 <Diablo-D3>	step 1) produce logs
Jan 13 16:52:16 <EskimoBob>	we? who do you speak for?
Jan 13 16:52:17 <Diablo-D3>	step 2) wipe
Jan 13 16:52:23 <Diablo-D3>	step 3) flush
Jan 13 16:52:48 <Diablo-D3>	unix coders are lol.
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Jan 13 16:55:04 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Jan 13 16:55:06 <thestringpuller>	This site is currently in beta. Nothing is verified. Everything is virtual. Do your homework. Watch out for scams. Be diligent.
Jan 13 16:56:12 <thestringpuller>	^^^ the exchange mr. EskimoBob trusts so much
Jan 13 16:56:40 <kakobrekla>	lol which one is that?
Jan 13 16:57:06 <kakobrekla>	>In Debian project parlance, the term stable means that the software is no longer under active development or widespread use and that the authors are long dead
Jan 13 16:57:17 <dub>	lol
Jan 13 16:57:19 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: yes.
Jan 13 16:59:33 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: ltc-global
Jan 13 17:05:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 617 @ 0.00469701 = 2.8981 BTC [-]
Jan 13 17:06:22 <Bugpowder>	kakobreakla I posted a varient NFL bet with shallow decay, I think it will perform better than the existing one.  Please approve.  Big funding already sent
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Jan 13 17:12:48 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: your feeble attempts to be "funny" are so pathetic, that I almost feel sorry for you.
Jan 13 17:13:58 <EskimoBob>	honestly :)
Jan 13 17:14:35 <thestringpuller>	yay I made new enemy
Jan 13 17:14:39 <thestringpuller>	may da war begin!
Jan 13 17:14:46 <kakobrekla>	enemty territory
Jan 13 17:14:49 <kakobrekla>	good game
Jan 13 17:14:53 <kakobrekla>	i played it a week ago
Jan 13 17:15:05 <kakobrekla>	enemy*
Jan 13 17:15:26 <kakobrekla>	10yrs old or so
Jan 13 17:15:37 <thestringpuller>	i was only a baby then
Jan 13 17:18:05 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: I challenge you to a duel!
Jan 13 17:18:12 *	thestringpuller slaps EskimoBob in the face with a glove.
Jan 13 17:23:53 <Schadenfreude>	What kind of codex you're going to duel by?
Jan 13 17:24:20 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MtAMc4i8OA
Jan 13 17:25:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]
Jan 13 17:25:13 <Schadenfreude>	I thought something more classic, like Busson or Bolgar
Jan 13 17:25:21 <kakobrekla>	what
Jan 13 17:25:25 <kakobrekla>	this is a classic.
Jan 13 17:26:08 <kakobrekla>	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067023/
Jan 13 17:26:15 <kakobrekla>	a spielbergs thing.
Jan 13 17:26:40 <Schadenfreude>	I mean 19th century german honor code. <g>
Jan 13 17:27:27 <kakobrekla>	a looky look, full movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnHjfGaN3kw
Jan 13 17:29:22 <thestringpuller>	i love this channel haha
Jan 13 17:36:36 <Schadenfreude>	Well, he wanted to duel so why not do it semi-properly, at least
Jan 13 17:38:33 <kakobrekla>	Dammit now i gotta watch it till the end again.
Jan 13 17:39:06 <Schadenfreude>	Kakobrekla, ever seen The Student from Prague or Der Untertan?
Jan 13 17:39:18 <Schadenfreude>	They're pretty old tho
Jan 13 17:39:52 <kakobrekla>	ill check it out if you think its worthy
Jan 13 17:41:11 <Schadenfreude>	If you find an english translation for them, they're pretty good
Jan 13 17:42:33 <Schadenfreude>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSyEwZ7Zg5c - Did a terrible job at portraying the real thing tho
Jan 13 17:43:09 <dub>	from the 'overheard in goldman sachs elevator' twitter feed - The most and least successful people all share the same trait: thinking they.re never wrong.
Jan 13 17:43:49 <dub>	EskimoBob: where do you fall?
Jan 13 17:44:15 <dub>	heh
Jan 13 17:44:17 <dub>	#1: A chick I banged once and haven't seen since just added me on LinkedIn. #2: She wants you to give her 'the business' again.
Jan 13 17:45:35 <Schadenfreude>	Most successful people wouldn't be successful if they didn't *accurately* gauge their abbilities
Jan 13 17:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	let's see. buffett was pretty successful.
Jan 13 17:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	he doesn't seem to think he's never wrong.
Jan 13 17:46:31 <mircea_popescu>	maybe someone farted in that elevator ?
Jan 13 17:49:50 <dub>	HEH http://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/the-gym/
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Jan 13 17:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	I’m 19th century sexy – pale skin and a fat ass, and fortunately, a fatter wallet.
Jan 13 17:52:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.00457135 = 0.1829 BTC [-]
Jan 13 17:52:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1185 @ 0.00454328 = 5.3838 BTC [-]
Jan 13 17:52:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol. perfect for a two weeks rope&whips vacation.
Jan 13 18:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder pm.
Jan 13 18:19:44 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 13 18:28:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.325 = 3.25 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 18:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Jan 13 18:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	306:255 by now
Jan 13 18:31:25 <mircea_popescu>	im curious if it breaks the 1000
Jan 13 18:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 26136992 / 21291345.0
Jan 13 18:32:04 <gribble>	1.22758764183
Jan 13 18:33:28 <Namworld>	Well, considering the large amount of preorders and that they pulled off making an FPGA... I know making an ASIC is incredibly harder and expensive.
Jan 13 18:33:50 <Namworld>	But if one is to deliver ASICs, that would be BFL.
Jan 13 18:33:51 <thestringpuller>	It's like a futures on their delivery date...
Jan 13 18:33:59 <Namworld>	Although I seriously doubt their specs
Jan 13 18:34:18 <Namworld>	But they had enough funds to get an ASIC developed.
Jan 13 18:34:49 <kakobrekla>	i know for 2 more people that have enough funds, without taking preorders in the public
Jan 13 18:35:02 <kakobrekla>	one sent me a core pic yesterday :>
Jan 13 18:40:42 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i don't think a couple million is enough funds
Jan 13 18:40:48 <mircea_popescu>	by about a degree of magnitude at the least.
Jan 13 18:41:14 <kakobrekla>	>>the difference is pretty high and so risks of failure - 150nm - $80k, 130nm - $200k, 90nm - $400k, 65nm - $800k - to get sample round. but with 90nm - it is 120 TH/s just in single engineering shot.
Jan 13 18:41:45 <kakobrekla>	>>physical verification (i.e. I give to physical verification engineer design + test vectors) - is about $30k and 1 month delay - but that dramatically reduces failure chances.
Jan 13 18:41:59 <kakobrekla>	bfl failed once so far.
Jan 13 18:43:19 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla what are those numbers ?
Jan 13 18:43:29 <kakobrekla>	to get a run done
Jan 13 18:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	per wafer costs of printing only ?
Jan 13 18:43:39 <kakobrekla>	to print ze chips
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Jan 13 18:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	yes. here's the thing : i was for a time working with a printing business.
Jan 13 18:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	they ran smallish (10-100k) sort of runs.
Jan 13 18:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	every given book cost between 10 and 20 dollars.
Jan 13 18:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	every given run cost between 20k and i think at most i ever signed off on a 95k typo bill.
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Jan 13 18:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	but usually the printing cost was <10% of the book.
Jan 13 18:44:50 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: how much was the printing firms start up costs, and how long have they been in operation?
Jan 13 18:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	and the great advantage of the printing business is that you don't need to pay the author at all.
Jan 13 18:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	he's happy with 50 cents per copy and his name on the cover.
Jan 13 18:45:36 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller it was small, i wasn't there when it started up and it meanwhile folded
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Jan 13 18:45:49 <kakobrekla>	final installation w power w cooling w/o case is extra 2$ per W
Jan 13 18:45:52 <thestringpuller>	everything that has a beginning has an end
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Jan 13 18:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	so now here's the thing : your 500-1mn per wafer run costs are correct,
Jan 13 18:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	but they're also 10 to 1% of the actual cost of delivering a finished product.
Jan 13 18:46:45 <kakobrekla>	not with the hot glue used.
Jan 13 18:46:47 <kakobrekla>	r u crazy.
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Jan 13 18:47:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol ?
Jan 13 18:47:43 <kakobrekla>	leme find it for ya
Jan 13 18:47:52 <dub>	hot glued USB
Jan 13 18:48:01 <dub>	for superior thermal profile
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Jan 13 18:48:12 <dub>	and fans
Jan 13 18:48:13 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/1M/wG/1HqaXu01/yv4e6.jpg
Jan 13 18:48:34 <dub>	or is it how you attach your clock registers
Jan 13 18:48:41 <kakobrekla>	clock buffers.
Jan 13 18:48:46 <dub>	oh sorry
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Jan 13 18:48:51 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla what about that ?!
Jan 13 18:48:53 <kakobrekla>	registers will be added in the next fail
Jan 13 18:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 13 18:49:09 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu note the hot glue errywhere
Jan 13 18:49:20 <dub>	I actually dont have a problem with that
Jan 13 18:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	omg wtf is that
Jan 13 18:49:22 <kakobrekla>	and also that thing
Jan 13 18:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	caulk ?!
Jan 13 18:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	please tell me thats not plumbing material ?
Jan 13 18:49:33 <kakobrekla>	that sticks the usbs to the side
Jan 13 18:49:34 <dub>	those fuckers would have wiggled free eventually
Jan 13 18:49:37 <kakobrekla>	dunno how you call it
Jan 13 18:49:45 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu HOT GLUE
Jan 13 18:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	duide that's caulk
Jan 13 18:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	look at it
Jan 13 18:50:01 <kakobrekla>	for ikebanas
Jan 13 18:50:14 <kakobrekla>	http://www.steinel.de/out/pictures/master/product/1/stw_106319104.png
Jan 13 18:50:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.lowes.com/images/LCI/Planning/BuyingGuides/bg_CaulkBG_specialty_caulk.jpg
Jan 13 18:50:30 <kakobrekla>	perhaps
Jan 13 18:50:32 <kakobrekla>	whatever it is
Jan 13 18:50:39 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: you in the chip building business?
Jan 13 18:50:49 *	jurov got an idea: http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/jan/13/investments-stock-picking
Jan 13 18:50:57 <kakobrekla>	well, not really.
Jan 13 18:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov more EMT/MMT stuff eh ?
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Jan 13 18:53:22 <dub>	lol
Jan 13 18:53:23 <jurov>	or a reason to get a cat
Jan 13 18:53:46 <dub>	we could have got a rabbit to pick glbse stocks for a fund and see if it did better than usagi
Jan 13 18:54:06 <kakobrekla>	thestringpuller, i was helping fizzisist at the start with fpga, then i was workin with bitfury for a while to get his last batch out and now im also working for ET/TML in a way
Jan 13 18:54:08 <jurov>	rather a hamster, less space/upkeep
Jan 13 18:54:14 <dub>	of course we'd run out fo LSD
Jan 13 18:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	dub lol
Jan 13 18:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112876.msg1221157#msg1221157
Jan 13 18:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	i was reading this otherwise very impressive thing
Jan 13 18:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	then i got to the table. deprived's fund made 20% in an interval ltc/btc went in his favour 50%
Jan 13 18:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	i take it glbse really fucked things up for people.
Jan 13 18:57:37 <jurov>	yea, brace ur. exactly this thing is going to invest into mpex and operate a pt ;)
Jan 13 18:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	the guy seems pretty on the ball tbh.
Jan 13 18:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	from what i've seen at least.
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Jan 13 19:02:02 <dub>	 wat
Jan 13 19:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/119/the-spot-gold-price-will-trade-above-2000-oz/
Jan 13 19:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 13 19:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoiners are goldbugs huh
Jan 13 19:04:52 <dub>	hard to take srsly, all this detailed info and analysis about enough money to buy mcdonalds
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Jan 13 19:06:29 <dub>	fear not, he has withdrawn half the balance from such and such exchange to secure a badly cooked steak against further loss
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Jan 13 19:08:22 <pigeons>	i made enough money to buy mcdonalds but i pissed it away so fast
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Jan 13 19:09:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00454329 = 4.5433 BTC [+]
Jan 13 19:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 115 @ 0.00454328 = 0.5225 BTC [-]
Jan 13 19:09:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 985 @ 0.00453792 = 4.4699 BTC [-]
Jan 13 19:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	dub i agree the entire volume is tiny
Jan 13 19:10:21 <pigeons>	remember kids, "if you don't believe in BFL, then you don't believe in bitcoin."
Jan 13 19:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	but why is that a bad thing ?
Jan 13 19:10:44 <mircea_popescu>	if the troop of "financiers" acting up on glbse had followed the same route
Jan 13 19:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	we'd be looking at a few btc total losses today.
Jan 13 19:10:59 <dub>	it seems like masturbation more than anything
Jan 13 19:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	ist is
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Jan 13 19:11:09 <dub>	he could make more money WORKING at mcdonalds
Jan 13 19:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	education is masturbation.
Jan 13 19:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	he could make more _money_
Jan 13 19:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	money isn't everything.
Jan 13 19:11:30 <dub>	than writing all this forum fluff
Jan 13 19:11:38 <jurov>	oh he actually announced the passthrough below the last results
Jan 13 19:12:12 <jurov>	specifically states he needs to "cover 0.09 BTC/month brokerage fee"
Jan 13 19:12:17 <jurov>	yea that will be tough
Jan 13 19:12:30 <mircea_popescu>	well his total NW is what, 50 btc or so ?
Jan 13 19:12:37 <dub>	might need to go to the tooth fairy for a loan
Jan 13 19:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol you two meanines
Jan 13 19:13:01 <thestringpuller>	or fairy godmother bernanke
Jan 13 19:13:04 <pigeons>	linkie
Jan 13 19:13:24 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112876.msg1450475#msg1450475
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Jan 13 19:15:08 <pigeons>	i remember when i found out my parents are the tooth fairy. i still don't know how they afford to buy every kid's teeth and how they sneak into the bedrooms and get back
Jan 13 19:15:41 <dub>	instantrimshot.com
Jan 13 19:16:07 <jurov>	mohairsluts.com
Jan 13 19:16:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.011 = 0.044 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 19:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	o no way
Jan 13 19:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	ffs.
Jan 13 19:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	im getting hohairsluts.com
Jan 13 19:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00453792 = 2.9496 BTC [-]
Jan 13 19:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.mohairsluts.com/Thumbnail_foto_bestanden/nathalie/tn_mohairsluts006.jpg
Jan 13 19:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	wtf i don't even
Jan 13 19:17:51 <pigeons>	"I believe so much in bitcoin that I wear this fucking button each day" --micon
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Jan 13 19:21:43 <drug_motor>	http://tinysong.com/qVud
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Jan 13 19:23:49 <dub>	wat
Jan 13 19:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00457753 = 5.9508 BTC [+]
Jan 13 19:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 254 @ 0.00459432 = 1.167 BTC [+]
Jan 13 19:39:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 165 @ 0.00453792 = 0.7488 BTC [-]
Jan 13 19:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 384 @ 0.00452778 = 1.7387 BTC [-]
Jan 13 19:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1763 @ 0.00452146 = 7.9713 BTC [-]
Jan 13 19:42:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 800 @ 0.15603262 = 124.8261 BTC [-]
Jan 13 19:42:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 200 @ 0.15603262 = 31.2065 BTC [-]
Jan 13 19:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 720 @ 0.21996239 = 158.3729 BTC [-]
Jan 13 19:44:48 <kakobrekla>	>>Inaba, According to a couple of your posts in the BFL forums, there was going to be some kind of announcement from BFL, either today or tomorrow which should add some clarity to the current situation. Is this still true?
Jan 13 19:44:53 <kakobrekla>	>Yep, I've been working on it this afternoon. It's almost done and will be posted soon. I've tried to answer all the questions that have been asked so far and I don't think I've missed anything.
Jan 13 19:45:00 <kakobrekla>	ooo.
Jan 13 19:45:04 <JWU42>	hmmm
Jan 13 19:45:12 <kakobrekla>	"we failed again"
Jan 13 19:45:19 <kakobrekla>	lets make a bet?
Jan 13 19:45:29 <kakobrekla>	a quicky.
Jan 13 19:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1432 @ 0.00452471 = 6.4794 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 19:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Jan 13 19:50:55 <TradeFortress>	If you want to get the returns of MPOE bonds without actually buying them, PM me
Jan 13 19:51:11 <kakobrekla>	:O
Jan 13 19:51:40 <JWU42>	"Update should be within the hour. Tomorrow some packaged chips should be shipping back to assembly to test some rigs is my bet."
Jan 13 19:52:07 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Jan 13 19:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	you srslty betting on that ?
Jan 13 19:52:17 <JWU42>	nope
Jan 13 19:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol k
Jan 13 19:52:26 <JWU42>	just pasting what I saw in their forums
Jan 13 19:52:31 <JWU42>	I don't bet
Jan 13 19:52:33 <JWU42>	;)
Jan 13 19:52:37 <kakobrekla>	except for sd
Jan 13 19:52:40 <kakobrekla>	...
Jan 13 19:52:41 <JWU42>	oh yeah
Jan 13 19:52:42 <JWU42>	that
Jan 13 19:52:45 <JWU42>	;)
Jan 13 19:52:47 <pigeons>	i do believe in fairies
Jan 13 19:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 429 @ 0.00459432 = 1.971 BTC [+]
Jan 13 19:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1721 @ 0.0046512 = 8.0047 BTC [+]
Jan 13 19:57:14 <jurov>	TradeFortress,gonna buy MPBPT ? :D
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Jan 13 19:59:39 <mircea_popescu>	Confirmed total: 943 BTC
Jan 13 19:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	o ya 1k is going away.
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Jan 13 20:00:05 <mircea_popescu>	remarkably tho : average bet is like 2 btc!
Jan 13 20:01:09 <kakobrekla>	100b incoming
Jan 13 20:01:15 <kakobrekla>	w next block
Jan 13 20:01:21 <kakobrekla>	;)
Jan 13 20:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol that lasted long
Jan 13 20:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	im curious which will be the first 1mn month.
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Jan 13 20:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0046512 = 1.8605 BTC [+]
Jan 13 20:22:16 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is that a more recent picture of you
Jan 13 20:22:22 <thestringpuller>	reading the newspaper
Jan 13 20:28:24 <Bugpowder>	mircea, you put another 325 down on the BFL shipping?
Jan 13 20:28:51 <Bugpowder>	err NOT shipping
Jan 13 20:29:38 <kakobrekla>	thats not his addy
Jan 13 20:34:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1268 @ 0.00453512 = 5.7505 BTC [-]
Jan 13 20:34:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1032 @ 0.00452146 = 4.6661 BTC [-]
Jan 13 20:46:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00453244 = 9.0649 BTC [+]
Jan 13 20:46:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 605 @ 0.00452146 = 2.7355 BTC [-]
Jan 13 20:46:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00451817 = 0.009 BTC [-]
Jan 13 20:46:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2856 @ 0.00451808 = 12.9036 BTC [-]
Jan 13 20:53:55 <Bugpowder>	oh, is that people sending in bets directly from the MPEX account?
Jan 13 20:54:26 <kakobrekla>	hmm?
Jan 13 20:54:54 <Bugpowder>	How does that work.  1Fx3N is the MPEX deposit address
Jan 13 20:55:35 <kakobrekla>	a
Jan 13 20:55:37 <kakobrekla>	didnt notice
Jan 13 20:55:46 <kakobrekla>	it was in the outputs
Jan 13 20:55:56 <kakobrekla>	of the incoming
Jan 13 20:56:00 <kakobrekla>	just check the outgoing
Jan 13 20:56:04 <kakobrekla>	checked
Jan 13 20:56:12 <kakobrekla>	i dunno then
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Jan 13 21:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.475 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:06:50 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: the bot isn't working
Jan 13 21:07:02 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Jan 13 21:07:32 <thestringpuller>	i'm just trolling
Jan 13 21:07:34 <thestringpuller>	I'm bad at tit
Jan 13 21:07:35 <thestringpuller>	it*
Jan 13 21:07:57 <kakobrekla>	!ticker wtf thestringpuller
Jan 13 21:07:57 <assbot>	I cooked, I cleaned, and I sewed, and I have a right to get--
Jan 13 21:09:38 <pigeons>	good at it
Jan 13 21:10:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 844 @ 0.00451808 = 3.8133 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00451757 = 3.6412 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:10:44 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 13 21:10:44 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 13 21:10:49 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 13 21:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00451757 / 0.00463652 / 0.00475127 (129250 shares, 599.27 BTC), 7D: 0.004312 / 0.00467992 / 0.0048 (1917772 shares, 8,975.02 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00353248 / 0.0048 (11823034 shares, 41,764.64 BTC)
Jan 13 21:12:23 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 13 21:12:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.15001, Best ask: 14.23299, Bid-ask spread: 0.08298, Last trade: 14.15001, 24 hour volume: 38939.12902034, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.10660
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Jan 13 21:26:11 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 13 21:26:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.27000, Best ask: 14.27018, Bid-ask spread: 0.00018, Last trade: 14.27000, 24 hour volume: 40264.04375136, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.11130
Jan 13 21:26:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00456584 = 2.9678 BTC [+]
Jan 13 21:30:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 94 @ 0.00451757 = 0.4247 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:30:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1117 @ 0.00451713 = 5.0456 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1035 @ 0.00451663 = 4.6747 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:30:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 286 @ 0.00451516 = 1.2913 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 68 @ 0.00451039 = 0.3067 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:30:33 <Bugpowder>	oops
Jan 13 21:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1282 @ 0.00451039 = 5.7823 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:30:36 <Bugpowder>	fat finger
Jan 13 21:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1665 @ 0.00450947 = 7.5083 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 53 @ 0.00450832 = 0.2389 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:32:32 <thestringpuller>	your a fat finger
Jan 13 21:32:39 <thestringpuller>	you're*
Jan 13 21:33:33 <Ukto>	If you hold YABMC shares, please cast your vote on it's future on the forums. - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75867.380
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Jan 13 21:34:07 <Bugpowder>	kakobrekla, the closing times for the bets I posted are off.  Closing happens at the start of the day not the end of the day, so now all my bets are closing Friday night instead of Sat.
Jan 13 21:34:25 <Bugpowder>	despite my setting of the closing day to 12-20
Jan 13 21:34:27 <Bugpowder>	err
Jan 13 21:34:30 <Bugpowder>	1-20-2013
Jan 13 21:35:38 <kakobrekla>	i halted bb daemon for a sec now
Jan 13 21:35:54 <kakobrekla>	i can change that if it needs to be, no bets yet confirmed on em
Jan 13 21:36:24 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 13 21:37:51 <Bugpowder>	ok...  Yeah, originally you said it was end of day, but when I set it up last week, I saw it was start of day.  Thats why I shifted the resolution time to the 22nd, to try to catch it at 24:00 of the 19th / 0:00 of the 20th
Jan 13 21:38:05 <kakobrekla>	yes that was my mistake
Jan 13 21:38:22 <kakobrekla>	as soon as gmt time >= date
Jan 13 21:38:25 <kakobrekla>	its closed
Jan 13 21:38:34 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 13 21:38:58 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 13 21:39:02 <kakobrekla>	your proposed date was 1358812800
Jan 13 21:39:09 <Bugpowder>	uhh
Jan 13 21:39:10 <kakobrekla>	which IS the reosolution timestamp
Jan 13 21:39:19 <kakobrekla>	in curious now
Jan 13 21:39:21 <kakobrekla>	hmmm
Jan 13 21:39:26 <Bugpowder>	did i f up?
Jan 13 21:39:36 <Bugpowder>	i thought I did 2 days before 22nd
Jan 13 21:39:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1347 @ 0.00450832 = 6.0727 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:39:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 953 @ 0.00450698 = 4.2952 BTC [-]
Jan 13 21:39:52 <kakobrekla>	the unix time stamp is the same on proposal than on bet in the db
Jan 13 21:40:00 <kakobrekla>	now its possibly something else is wrong
Jan 13 21:40:03 <kakobrekla>	possible
Jan 13 21:40:26 <kakobrekla>	ill do a quick test
Jan 13 21:40:48 <Bugpowder>	also my txn's confirmed with the last block
Jan 13 21:40:57 <Bugpowder>	21 min ago
Jan 13 21:41:04 <kakobrekla>	one sec we will get to that
Jan 13 21:41:08 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 13 21:42:01 <Bugpowder>	HUGE BFL ANNOUNCEMENT
Jan 13 21:42:02 <Bugpowder>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html#post10249
Jan 13 21:42:38 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/128/test/
Jan 13 21:42:42 <kakobrekla>	i pasted 1.2 in the form
Jan 13 21:42:44 <kakobrekla>	and its 1.2
Jan 13 21:42:51 <kakobrekla>	no problem as far as i can see
Jan 13 21:42:58 <kakobrekla>	possibly the bet approve team changed the date
Jan 13 21:43:32 <kakobrekla>	deleted now
Jan 13 21:43:40 <kakobrekla>	(the test)
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Jan 13 21:44:27 <Bugpowder>	" When we announced the delay last month, we decided to go back and switch from our QFN package to a flip chip BGA (FCBGA) package.  "  I knew the chip bonding was going to be a problem.  looks like it is
Jan 13 21:45:19 <kakobrekla>	anyway
Jan 13 21:45:25 <kakobrekla>	everything checks out here Bugpowder
Jan 13 21:45:28 <Bugpowder>	"Originally, we were at about .8w per GH (Yes, we built 20% into our announcements) and we are estimating that it's possible that a worst case scenario would lead to a bit under 1.2w per GH. "
Jan 13 21:45:32 <kakobrekla>	tell me now if you want me to do +1 day
Jan 13 21:45:35 <kakobrekla>	you have 30sec
Jan 13 21:45:38 <Bugpowder>	yes
Jan 13 21:45:41 <kakobrekla>	ok
Jan 13 21:45:49 <Bugpowder>	I want it to end on the morning of the game
Jan 13 21:45:58 <Bugpowder>	00:00
Jan 13 21:46:27 <kakobrekla>	1358899200 ?
Jan 13 21:46:49 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 13 21:46:53 <Bugpowder>	thats weds
Jan 13 21:47:10 <kakobrekla>	thats 24hrs more than current
Jan 13 21:47:15 <kakobrekla>	1358812800+(60*60*24)
Jan 13 21:47:16 <Bugpowder>	1358640000
Jan 13 21:47:21 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 13 21:47:24 <Bugpowder>	you mean resolve?
Jan 13 21:47:26 <kakobrekla>	yes
Jan 13 21:47:28 <Bugpowder>	I just want betting to end
Jan 13 21:47:31 <Bugpowder>	at 1358640000
Jan 13 21:47:31 <kakobrekla>	what did you mean?
Jan 13 21:47:33 <kakobrekla>	aaa
Jan 13 21:47:35 <Bugpowder>	however it takes
Jan 13 21:47:39 <dub>	what is the picture of in that post?
Jan 13 21:47:46 <dub>	needs login to enlarge
Jan 13 21:47:53 <kakobrekla>	end vote is 1358553600
Jan 13 21:48:01 <kakobrekla>	so you get 1358640000
Jan 13 21:48:04 <kakobrekla>	+24h
Jan 13 21:48:06 <kakobrekla>	ok?
Jan 13 21:48:11 <kakobrekla>	ya
Jan 13 21:48:12 <kakobrekla>	ok
Jan 13 21:48:16 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 13 21:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00456584 = 5.0224 BTC [+]
Jan 13 21:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00464467 = 1.8579 BTC [+]
Jan 13 21:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.0046512 = 1.1163 BTC [+]
Jan 13 21:48:59 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder http://bitbet.us/bet/127/nfl-playoffs-new-england-patriots-8-5-over/
Jan 13 21:49:03 <kakobrekla>	all good?
Jan 13 21:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.0046593 = 6.2901 BTC [+]
Jan 13 21:49:21 <kakobrekla>	imma gonna fire up ze daemon
Jan 13 21:49:27 <Bugpowder>	dates look good
Jan 13 21:49:38 <Bugpowder>	now we jusss need some coin down on that shizz
Jan 13 21:49:42 <kakobrekla>	and the bet are in
Jan 13 21:49:43 <kakobrekla>	f5
Jan 13 21:50:06 <kakobrekla>	about why its not instantly confirmed
Jan 13 21:50:17 <kakobrekla>	curretly i check at a new block
Jan 13 21:50:28 <kakobrekla>	its a bit suboptimal
Jan 13 21:50:32 <kakobrekla>	and will fix that soonish
Jan 13 21:50:42 <kakobrekla>	so this will be all faster
Jan 13 21:50:44 <Bugpowder>	no worries
Jan 13 21:50:51 <Bugpowder>	"Week of February 10th We implement the 1/3 shipping plan en mass 1/3 of our assembled units will go to new orders in FIFO 1/3 of our assembled units will go to upgrade orders 1/3 will be randomly selected from both groups"
Jan 13 21:51:13 <Bugpowder>	Please let this drive more betting on the YES side
Jan 13 21:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00468357 = 3.2785 BTC [+]
Jan 13 21:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1371 @ 0.0046876 = 6.4267 BTC [+]
Jan 13 21:54:21 <pigeons>	oh sorry, none of you were in any of those thirds
Jan 13 21:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 838 @ 0.0046876 = 3.9282 BTC [+]
Jan 13 21:55:16 <Bugpowder>	I think bitbet now officially has more bTC outstanding than betsofbitcoin
Jan 13 21:55:47 <pigeons>	ponzi
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Jan 13 21:57:16 <Namworld>	Anyone in here can loan about 100 BTC through BTC-BOND?
Jan 13 22:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00469855 = 0.9397 BTC [+]
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Jan 13 22:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13105 @ 0.00063268 = 8.2913 BTC [+]
Jan 13 22:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064579 = 1.9374 BTC [+]
Jan 13 22:10:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16495 @ 0.0006458 = 10.6525 BTC [+]
Jan 13 22:12:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1487 @ 0.00469837 = 6.9865 BTC [-]
Jan 13 22:12:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 62 @ 0.00469621 = 0.2912 BTC [-]
Jan 13 22:12:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 392 @ 0.0046593 = 1.8264 BTC [-]
Jan 13 22:13:39 <TradeFortress>	I just realised assbot stands for assetbot :s
Jan 13 22:14:24 <kakobrekla>	thats a false presumption
Jan 13 22:23:17 <dub>	kakobrekla cant get none unless you got buns hun
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Jan 13 22:24:56 <kakobrekla>	>>>1/3 of our assembled units will go to new orders in FIFO 1/3 of our assembled units will go to upgrade orders 1/3 will be randomly selected from both groups"
Jan 13 22:24:58 <kakobrekla>	wait
Jan 13 22:25:06 <kakobrekla>	isnt that then the 1/2 plan
Jan 13 22:25:29 <kakobrekla>	how is randomly selecting between 2 1/3 any other than 2x 1/2
Jan 13 22:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00452109 = 4.5211 BTC [-]
Jan 13 22:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 507 @ 0.00450698 = 2.285 BTC [-]
Jan 13 22:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 406 @ 0.00450698 = 1.8298 BTC [-]
Jan 13 22:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1294 @ 0.00450501 = 5.8295 BTC [-]
Jan 13 22:33:18 <dub>	kakobrekla: maff
Jan 13 22:33:33 <pigeons>	and fings
Jan 13 22:33:42 <dub>	oh yeah
Jan 13 22:36:21 <Bugpowder>	no its different
Jan 13 22:36:29 <Bugpowder>	the random is non fifo
Jan 13 22:39:03 <pigeons>	http://www.businessinsider.com/imf-admitted-their-economists-were-wrong-2013-1
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Jan 13 22:46:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 606 @ 0.00450501 = 2.73 BTC [-]
Jan 13 22:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 110 @ 0.00450374 = 0.4954 BTC [-]
Jan 13 22:54:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
Jan 13 22:56:51 <Namworld>	finest choice you could make
Jan 13 23:02:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 859 @ 0.00450374 = 3.8687 BTC [-]
Jan 13 23:02:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00450356 = 3.6028 BTC [-]
Jan 13 23:02:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.004502 = 2.251 BTC [-]
Jan 13 23:02:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 975 @ 0.00450129 = 4.3888 BTC [-]
Jan 13 23:05:48 <Namworld>	Well... outside MPEx that is.
Jan 13 23:05:54 <Namworld>	S.DICE is nice too
Jan 13 23:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 295 @ 0.00452109 = 1.3337 BTC [+]
Jan 13 23:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 816 @ 0.00456769 = 3.7272 BTC [+]
Jan 13 23:12:46 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 13 23:12:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.23001, Best ask: 14.29099, Bid-ask spread: 0.06098, Last trade: 14.28998, 24 hour volume: 40998.52702455, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.11527
Jan 13 23:17:31 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Jan 13 23:17:33 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 216450 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 1277 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 1 minute, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2910803.38168369 | Estimated Percent Change: -10.4244047981
Jan 13 23:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1982 @ 0.00456769 = 9.0532 BTC [+]
Jan 13 23:25:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00468288 = 8.8975 BTC [+]
Jan 13 23:25:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00469855 = 4.2287 BTC [+]
Jan 13 23:25:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00470673 = 5.4127 BTC [+]
Jan 13 23:25:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00470687 = 5.6482 BTC [+]
Jan 13 23:25:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00472364 = 2.598 BTC [+]
Jan 13 23:25:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00472602 = 8.9794 BTC [+]
Jan 13 23:31:07 <drug_motor>	http://tinysong.com/a0JV
Jan 13 23:33:18 <TradeFortress>	so that's why blocks are taking this long
Jan 13 23:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 916 @ 0.0046023 = 4.2157 BTC [-]
Jan 13 23:40:28 <dub>	why?
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Jan 13 23:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062773 = 0.6277 BTC [-]
Jan 13 23:54:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00062772 = 8.3487 BTC [-]
Jan 13 23:58:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00471295 = 9.4259 BTC [+]
Jan 13 23:58:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00471127 = 5.1824 BTC [-]
Jan 14 00:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 10 @ 0.08799123 = 0.8799 BTC [+]
Jan 14 00:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00472601 = 9.452 BTC [+]
Jan 14 00:01:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00472602 = 23.6301 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 00:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00471127 = 8.2447 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 00:12:06 <TradeFortress>	dub: network hash rate down
Jan 14 00:12:21 <TradeFortress>	difficulty is set to retarget still in a while, so the diffficulty is higher than it should be
Jan 14 00:12:26 <TradeFortress>	-> blocks on average takes longer
Jan 14 00:14:40 <TradeFortress>	btw, if you're interested in insuring MPOE bonds and get some nice profit, let me know
Jan 14 00:15:13 <dub>	;;bc,difchange
Jan 14 00:15:14 <gribble>	Error: "bc,difchange" is not a valid command.
Jan 14 00:15:18 <dub>	;;bc,diffchange
Jan 14 00:15:26 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -10.7363427947 % based on data since last change | -13.141668681 % based on data for last three days
Jan 14 00:16:32 <pigeons>	what does "insuring MPOE bonds" mean TradeFortress ?
Jan 14 00:17:09 <TradeFortress>	pigeons: it means that you cover MPOE losses if that happens, in exchange for taking a large cut of the returns
Jan 14 00:17:38 <pigeons>	of you want someone to go in with you on that, ok
Jan 14 00:18:08 <pigeons>	I'm doing the CoinBr.MBPT thing
Jan 14 00:25:55 <Namworld>	Anyone got BTCT.co/Bitfunder/Cryptostock things? I feel like shorting stuff.
Jan 14 00:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00471127 = 1.4134 BTC [-]
Jan 14 00:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1168 @ 0.00468137 = 5.4678 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 00:40:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 00:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2465 @ 0.00470045 = 11.5866 BTC [+]
Jan 14 00:48:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1103 @ 0.00472602 = 5.2128 BTC [+]
Jan 14 00:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1182 @ 0.00475 = 5.6145 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 00:53:47 <Namworld>	I guess not
Jan 14 01:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.0047146 = 6.8362 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 01:12:29 <Diablo-D3>	TradeFortress is a spy!
Jan 14 01:12:53 <TradeFortress>	spy sappin' my sentry!
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Jan 14 01:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller not really, that's from like luxor cca 2004
Jan 14 01:18:26 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> How does that work.  1Fx3N is the MPEX deposit address << what's the problem ? you can put any addy you want in ther withdraw field
Jan 14 01:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	 "Originally, we were at about .8w per GH (Yes, we built 20% into our announcements << that'd be 25% neh ?
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Jan 14 01:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, so bfl delivers in 30 days ?
Jan 14 01:32:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 02:00:32 <Namworld>	Someone felt like lending me some funds
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Jan 14 02:45:31 <Schadenfreude>	Namworld, you can always up it to say... 0.05% or 0.1%/day and perhaps more people will buy <g>
Jan 14 02:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.0047146 = 3.0645 BTC [-]
Jan 14 02:48:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00472297 = 0.2361 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 02:55:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 60733342 / 21778561.0
Jan 14 02:55:26 <gribble>	2.78867561544
Jan 14 02:55:56 <mircea_popescu>	3ish to 1 bfl won't deliver. heh.
Jan 14 02:57:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00468939 = 5.6273 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 03:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11139 @ 0.0006368 = 7.0933 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:05:58 <Namworld>	Too expensive
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Jan 14 03:06:29 <Namworld>	I once was at 0.5% weekly, which is not too far to 0.1%... too costly.
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Jan 14 03:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00472297 = 4.2507 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 03:14:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 7 @ 0.7894 = 5.5258 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 03:27:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4750 @ 0.00468939 = 22.2746 BTC [-]
Jan 14 03:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 932 @ 0.00468137 = 4.363 BTC [-]
Jan 14 03:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 810 @ 0.00466556 = 3.7791 BTC [-]
Jan 14 03:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 743 @ 0.00466053 = 3.4628 BTC [-]
Jan 14 03:29:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00472297 = 0.2361 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:29:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00473096 = 4.4944 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 03:34:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00471904 = 4.2471 BTC [-]
Jan 14 03:34:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00473096 = 1.8924 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 03:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064579 = 3.229 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 03:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9462 @ 0.0006458 = 6.1106 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6170 @ 0.00065288 = 4.0283 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:41:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7202 @ 0.0006529 = 4.7022 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:41:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4468 @ 0.00065516 = 2.9273 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00065996 = 1.4209 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00065996 = 4.1577 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:41:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00065997 = 2.4419 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065998 = 0.66 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00065999 = 4.6199 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00065999 = 5.2799 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4939545 @ 0.00066 = 3260.0997 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:42:18 <markedathome>	!!
Jan 14 03:43:10 <azx>	what is the source of income for MPOE?
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Jan 14 03:43:20 <markedathome>	mpoe.bot
Jan 14 03:43:33 <azx>	a bot?
Jan 14 03:43:35 <Namworld>	the options
Jan 14 03:43:45 <Namworld>	it buys/sells options on MPEx
Jan 14 03:44:12 <azx>	And those options are derivatives of what?
Jan 14 03:44:27 <Namworld>	so it basically goes long and short on BTC/USD at the same time. With an extra margin.
Jan 14 03:44:29 <azx>	or what is the underlying stuff
Jan 14 03:44:38 <markedathome>	calls and puts on the value of btc
Jan 14 03:45:08 <azx>	OK, I see. So everyone buying those must be most of the time on the looser side?
Jan 14 03:45:42 <azx>	loser*
Jan 14 03:46:04 <Namworld>	I suppose. Although they might be hedging.
Jan 14 03:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 150000 @ 0.0018 = 270 BTC [-]
Jan 14 03:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	azx notably in august buyers made a killing
Jan 14 03:47:02 <azx>	BBET, this is something new
Jan 14 03:47:15 <mircea_popescu>	but in general the thing with options is most expire worthless.
Jan 14 03:47:28 <markedathome>	bbet is bitbet.us, which launched a week or two ago
Jan 14 03:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	the 5th
Jan 14 03:48:14 <markedathome>	nice -->> [08:42:02] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4939545 @ 0.00066 = 3260.0997 BTC [+]
Jan 14 03:48:20 <azx>	same as http://betsofbitco.in/ ?
Jan 14 03:48:28 <mircea_popescu>	no, much better
Jan 14 03:48:31 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 14 03:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065956 / 0.00066 (5075034 shares, 3,347.30 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.0006573 / 0.00066 (11526130 shares, 7,576.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.00063499 / 0.00066 (47141395 shares, 29,934.58 BTC)
Jan 14 03:48:49 <azx>	better how? Looks like same stuff
Jan 14 03:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	cool!
Jan 14 03:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	yes well, superficially everything looks like the same stuff.
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Jan 14 03:49:25 <azx>	so how it's better then?  :)
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Jan 14 03:49:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Jan 14 03:49:46 <mircea_popescu>	for instance.
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Jan 14 04:01:56 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well
Jan 14 04:02:18 <Diablo-D3>	doesnt that mean they're like a year behind?
Jan 14 04:02:33 <mircea_popescu>	i think first promise in june 2012 was for october
Jan 14 04:02:49 <Diablo-D3>	I seem to remember a date before that
Jan 14 04:03:06 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, it's funny... i have so many bets about diff staying low through jan and feb
Jan 14 04:03:23 <Diablo-D3>	asicminer is going to be getting the boards back soon
Jan 14 04:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	i could probably live all this spring only by cashing out what i made out of the poor performance of asic manufacturers
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Jan 14 04:07:56 <Diablo-D3>	Imma reboot
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Jan 14 04:09:57 <Namworld>	hmm... assbot might be broken
Jan 14 04:10:06 <Namworld>	doesn't it normally show paid dividends?
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Jan 14 04:11:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1194 @ 0.00466053 = 5.5647 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:11:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 656 @ 0.00465944 = 3.0566 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld it used to on the old twitter interface.
Jan 14 04:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	the new thing is in work.
Jan 14 04:13:45 <Namworld>	oh
Jan 14 04:13:57 <Namworld>	Well 50 BTC "dividend" on BitVPS
Jan 14 04:14:05 <Namworld>	It's actually the sale proceeds.
Jan 14 04:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	S.BVPS paid a total dividend of 50.00000000 BTC to 500`000 outstanding shares. #dividend #bitcoin #btc #stocks
Jan 14 04:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	it's on twitter.
Jan 14 04:14:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://twitter.com/MPEx1/status/290745904602951681
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Jan 14 04:16:19 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: sale?
Jan 14 04:16:42 <azx>	BitVPS is still in business?
Jan 14 04:20:50 <Namworld>	because rg sold bitvps =/
Jan 14 04:21:03 <Namworld>	liquidation clause
Jan 14 04:21:42 <Namworld>	he can't sell his majority stake, but needed to quit. So he liquidated. Every share has right to part of that.
Jan 14 04:22:24 <Namworld>	But the contract has a special clause where each previous shareholder keeps 1 share after the transfer.
Jan 14 04:23:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1344 @ 0.00465944 = 6.2623 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:23:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 732 @ 0.00463695 = 3.3942 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:24:09 <Namworld>	Well should get published soon, so it will be official. You can review it then.
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Jan 14 04:26:06 <azx>	Namworld: they are still in business?
Jan 14 04:27:09 <Namworld>	yes... Me, arij and phungus have been managing it for about a month.
Jan 14 04:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	azx yes, in the middle of an acquisition.
Jan 14 04:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	statement tomorrow.
Jan 14 04:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1579 @ 0.00463695 = 7.3217 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4150 @ 0.00461007 = 19.1318 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:31:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 934 @ 0.0046023 = 4.2985 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 787 @ 0.00459318 = 3.6148 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:31:36 <azx>	mircea_popescu: what is your involvement in all this?
Jan 14 04:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	"all this" ?
Jan 14 04:34:20 <azx>	scroll up 6 lines
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Jan 14 04:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	one lists on mpex by signing a contract with mpex.
Jan 14 04:39:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2213 @ 0.00459318 = 10.1647 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:39:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00458415 = 0.0092 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:39:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 924 @ 0.00457255 = 4.225 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.00456985 = 12.3386 BTC [-]
Jan 14 04:39:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1859 @ 0.00456655 = 8.4892 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 04:49:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00463745 = 6.4924 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 05:08:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 10 @ 0.7894 = 7.894 BTC [+]
Jan 14 05:08:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7894 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 05:23:18 <jurov>	Yes, you are right mpex.co appears to be Offline!
Jan 14 05:23:35 <jurov>	wut?
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Jan 14 05:30:08 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, mpex.co is not even DNS resolving ?!
Jan 14 05:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Jan 14 05:30:51 <mircea_popescu>	looking into this.
Jan 14 05:38:57 <mircea_popescu>	looks like a little bit of ddos.
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Jan 14 05:44:11 <Namworld>	Attempt to appease the mighty Internet Gods by uploading a ritual dance to youtube... or by burning some servers in sacrifice.
Jan 14 05:44:34 <Namworld>	Not going to help one bit, but at least it might be fun. =/
Jan 14 05:47:24 <Namworld>	Ah well, that's sad. Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to complete my orders.
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Jan 14 05:55:23 <jurov>	Pirate!!!
Jan 14 05:57:01 <jurov>	;;ident Schadenfreude
Jan 14 05:57:02 <gribble>	Nick 'Schadenfreude', with hostmask 'Schadenfreude!~m@178.115.248.26.wireless.dyn.drei.com', is not identified.
Jan 14 05:57:37 <Schadenfreude>	nah, not really pirate :P
Jan 14 05:58:51 <jurov>	Iirc he connected from similar ip
Jan 14 05:59:28 <jurov>	and your nick is so fitting atm
Jan 14 06:00:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 06:00:56 <Schadenfreude>	Ah, I know what you mean
Jan 14 06:01:04 <pirateat40>	was in a trolly mood
Jan 14 06:02:13 <Schadenfreude>	I don't think there's any mechanism in place to prevent me from taking various nicknames : p
Jan 14 06:02:34 <pirateat40>	and as I can have multiple clients open at once
Jan 14 06:02:43 <Schadenfreude>	I can pretend to be pirate
Jan 14 06:02:58 <pirateat40>	though routing it through TOR would've made for ultimate trolling
Jan 14 06:03:07 <Schadenfreude>	<poof>
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Jan 14 06:17:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 12 @ 0.7894 = 9.4728 BTC [+]
Jan 14 06:18:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 40 @ 0.01 = 0.4 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 06:38:16 <jurov>	.. or by burning some bitches in sacrifice, lol
Jan 14 06:38:35 <jurov>	brb
Jan 14 06:47:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 07:04:48 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: mpex.co is being ddoses
Jan 14 07:04:57 <thestringpuller>	ddosed*
Jan 14 07:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Jan 14 07:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	quite a chunk too.
Jan 14 07:08:58 <thestringpuller>	i still can't resolve the dns
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Jan 14 07:12:51 <thestringpuller>	do you have access to your name servers?
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Jan 14 07:13:00 <thestringpuller>	mr. popescu
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Jan 14 07:14:12 <Schadenfreude>	Yep, can't open the site
Jan 14 07:15:19 <thestringpuller>	that also means no one can trade on mpex lol
Jan 14 07:15:31 <thestringpuller>	unless it's just a dns attack
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Jan 14 07:19:14 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you need to cut the line until the botnet stops requesting a dns request
Jan 14 07:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	i have access to everything
Jan 14 07:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	but we're doing about 38gb atm so... heh
Jan 14 07:21:20 <thestringpuller>	38gb per request?
Jan 14 07:21:47 <thestringpuller>	looks like mpex only weakness is a ddos attack'
Jan 14 07:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	no, per second
Jan 14 07:23:48 <mircea_popescu>	everyone's weakness is a ddos attack.
Jan 14 07:24:01 <thestringpuller>	well not really...
Jan 14 07:24:34 <thestringpuller>	distribute the service accross multiple servers...
Jan 14 07:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 14 07:25:04 <mircea_popescu>	and trust security to a small majority of them ?
Jan 14 07:26:40 <thestringpuller>	either that or have a red phone to your isp to pull a kill switch on the bad requests
Jan 14 07:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	i do.
Jan 14 07:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's not as easy as all that.
Jan 14 07:27:39 <thestringpuller>	just blame mpoe-pr
Jan 14 07:29:02 <thestringpuller>	she made someone mad
Jan 14 07:29:05 <thestringpuller>	boom ddos
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Jan 14 07:30:02 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 14 07:30:04 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 10 hours, 27 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ticker
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Jan 14 07:42:45 <thestringpuller>	so when do you expect mpex will be back up mr. popescu?
Jan 14 07:47:59 <mircea_popescu>	working on an actually pretty obnoxiously clever solution
Jan 14 07:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	won't be long.
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Jan 14 07:50:30 <Rothgar>	http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mpex.co
Jan 14 07:51:30 <kakobrekla>	ddos
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Jan 14 08:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.host56.com/
Jan 14 08:06:09 <mircea_popescu>	you can use that temporarily
Jan 14 08:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	i will be building and releasing a huge list of free hosts for mpex
Jan 14 08:06:20 <kakobrekla>	yay!
Jan 14 08:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's 100% safe in the sense that gpg is gpg.
Jan 14 08:06:37 <mircea_popescu>	and well... make taking mpex down way more difficult.
Jan 14 08:07:01 <mircea_popescu>	the one disadvantage is all the cruft freehosts add to the page, so pympex will need a few cosmetic changes
Jan 14 08:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	by hand process was tested and works.
Jan 14 08:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	also main sites will be coming online within hours.
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Jan 14 08:25:00 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: setup a vm or something somewhere. amazon.. put it behind cloudflare
Jan 14 08:25:04 <Ukto>	as a backup location
Jan 14 08:25:05 <Ukto>	and be done with it
Jan 14 08:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Jan 14 08:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	i will just make one fucking trillion free host proxies.
Jan 14 08:25:29 <Ukto>	-_-;;;
Jan 14 08:25:36 *	Ukto stinks of sweat
Jan 14 08:26:04 <kakobrekla>	i thought mp was alergic on cloudflare
Jan 14 08:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 14 08:27:20 <Bugpowder>	Also, have the resolved bitbets from last night been paid out?  For example http://bitbet.us/bet/51/nfl-playoffs-new-england-patriots-over-houston/   There is an output link, but no coins back in my wallet.
Jan 14 08:27:42 <kakobrekla>	scam
Jan 14 08:28:14 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder, mircea will explain it for ya
Jan 14 08:29:21 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 14 08:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder payouts happen in 48 hours tops.
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Jan 14 08:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	ideally instant but it's not automatic so dun pannic.
Jan 14 08:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/ also back online.
Jan 14 08:33:30 <mircea_popescu>	theoretically this makes it a lot stronger
Jan 14 08:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	we see.
Jan 14 08:34:18 <mircea_popescu>	anyone selling hosting services here btw ?
Jan 14 08:34:47 <Bugpowder>	Just trying to understand the process, and what resolved vs. closed me.  Resolved not linked to payout?
Jan 14 08:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	closed means no more bets are accepted.
Jan 14 08:36:13 <mircea_popescu>	resolved means one of the two sides was selected. payments to winning side are due and being processed
Jan 14 08:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	because of security procedures in place this processing may take a (short) interval.
Jan 14 08:55:18 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, nobody is selling hosting ?!
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Jan 14 08:55:52 <Schadenfreude>	Namworld and Neotrix spring to mind
Jan 14 08:56:30 <Schadenfreude>	Neotrix is affiliated with Koddos, which apparently offers DDOS protection too
Jan 14 09:01:08 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 14 09:01:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.15003, Best ask: 14.22849, Bid-ask spread: 0.07846, Last trade: 14.15003, 24 hour volume: 27519.20464813, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.30000, 24 hour vwap: 14.12675
Jan 14 09:01:09 <mircea_popescu>	i don't want ddos protection at all. i want basically a tiny vm to run a php mpex proxy
Jan 14 09:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	eight lines
Jan 14 09:08:49 <jurov>	Luceo does hosting too
Jan 14 09:09:15 <Schadenfreude>	Try bitcointalk, somebody ought to accept BTC for some hosting
Jan 14 09:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	yeh.
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Jan 14 09:23:07 <jurov>	mircea, you did not restart twitter/assapi yet? and rss/json output scriptslike mktdepth.php  hang
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Jan 14 09:27:34 <mircea_popescu>	i think you need a flushdns ?
Jan 14 09:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 14 09:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065959 / 0.00066 (5069495 shares, 3,343.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065737 / 0.00066 (11476109 shares, 7,544.08 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.000635 / 0.00066 (46830971 shares, 29,737.79 BTC)
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Jan 14 09:29:35 <thestringpuller>	what was the temp mirror mircea_popescu ?
Jan 14 09:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.host56.com/
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Jan 14 09:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	but you can use mpex.co etc
Jan 14 09:32:41 <thestringpuller>	i wonder who ddosed you
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Jan 14 09:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	the sec!
Jan 14 09:35:40 <thestringpuller>	offtopci mpex looks beautiful in links
Jan 14 09:35:44 <thestringpuller>	off topic*
Jan 14 09:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Jan 14 09:36:49 <thestringpuller>	I'm in class and my monitor is facing the teacher
Jan 14 09:39:59 <thestringpuller>	better than coinbr, you can't even log into it
Jan 14 09:40:01 <thestringpuller>	from links
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Jan 14 09:59:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 10:05:56 <drug_motor>	http://tinysong.com/15wM1
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Jan 14 10:15:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 25 @ 0.7894 = 19.735 BTC [+]
Jan 14 10:15:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.7895 = 3.158 BTC [+]
Jan 14 10:15:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.799 = 2.397 BTC [+]
Jan 14 10:16:46 <JWU_42>	not so sure about that stock
Jan 14 10:18:21 <JWU_42>	with the whole USD to BTC conversion
Jan 14 10:18:30 <JWU_42>	of profits to dividends
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Jan 14 10:25:23 <Schadenfreude>	Well, 1.3%/week made it suspicious in my eyes
Jan 14 10:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.475 = 6.65 BTC [-]
Jan 14 10:30:30 <kakobrekla>	7 is much better.
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Jan 14 10:34:26 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons_ such bullshit.
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Jan 14 10:42:58 <jcpham>	hrm
Jan 14 10:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
Jan 14 10:43:19 <jcpham>	what's new pussycat
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Jan 14 10:45:06 <kakobrekla>	>>josh: But my point is, we can't release that sort of information while it still will benefit our competition. The same goes for specific timelines - it will give the competition something specific to shoot for.
Jan 14 10:45:12 <kakobrekla>	rofl
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Jan 14 10:57:35 <jurov>	thestringpuller, coinbr actually works in links, if you refresh page after login
Jan 14 10:57:48 <jurov>	looks like caching issue
Jan 14 10:58:34 <jurov>	ofc it looks like ass anywhere, that's platform independent :D
Jan 14 10:59:21 <kakobrekla>	http://btctrading.wordpress.com/2013/01/14/do-a-bet-with-my-weekly-price-range-forecast/
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Jan 14 11:00:34 <thestringpuller>	fix that page refresh issue
Jan 14 11:00:48 <thestringpuller>	lol otherwise it works fine
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Jan 14 11:01:33 <jurov>	sry, i have more important issues in the plate
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Jan 14 11:02:05 <jurov>	and now we know mircea's ip addy.
Jan 14 11:02:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol you had it for years
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Jan 14 11:05:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder the transactions in question had been sent ~15 hours ago. they failed to propagate for some reason tho. all should be well nao
Jan 14 11:05:09 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 14 11:10:38 <gigavps>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75802.msg1453630#msg1453630
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Jan 14 11:12:30 <thestringpuller>	what pressing issues jurov?
Jan 14 11:13:18 <jurov>	things i had no time to do till now
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Jan 14 11:13:45 <jurov>	like actual affiliate credit payouts :/
Jan 14 11:14:11 <jurov>	some ppl can expect a nice little surprise later today
Jan 14 11:15:01 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Jan 14 11:15:02 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 14 11:15:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Jan 14 11:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065956 / 0.00066 (5074495 shares, 3,346.98 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065738 / 0.00066 (11455209 shares, 7,530.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.000635 / 0.00066 (46751688 shares, 29,687.66 BTC)
Jan 14 11:15:29 <Korbman>	gigavps: how fast will you be hashing once gigamining is all set up with ASICs?
Jan 14 11:16:24 <gigavps>	as fast as humanly possible
Jan 14 11:16:42 <gigavps>	all of the pieces are in place
Jan 14 11:17:00 <jcpham>	guess who is on the phone with mastercard
Jan 14 11:17:10 <jcpham>	guess who had 3 bASIC ordered
Jan 14 11:17:14 <gigavps>	jcpham?
Jan 14 11:17:18 <jcpham>	me!
Jan 14 11:17:44 <Korbman>	lol that's not a number ;)
Jan 14 11:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	no faith in azns huh
Jan 14 11:18:39 <gigavps>	Korbman any gigaminer that signs the new contract for Teramining will be able to be privy to all information regarding VPS' strategies
Jan 14 11:18:51 <gigavps>	because there is a NDA included in the contract
Jan 14 11:19:45 <jcpham>	i'm sortof scared though
Jan 14 11:19:58 <jcpham>	because i'm talking to paypal because it's a paypal mastercard
Jan 14 11:20:07 <Korbman>	Ha, I figured I'd ask anyway
Jan 14 11:20:10 *	jcpham buys all hardware with credit card on purpose
Jan 14 11:22:05 <gigavps>	jcpham smart man
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Jan 14 11:26:29 <jcpham>	paypal asked what it is
Jan 14 11:26:39 <jcpham>	"experimental cryptographic hardware
Jan 14 11:28:23 *	Guest78214 is now known as pigeons
Jan 14 11:29:46 <jcpham>	that's was difficult to dance around
Jan 14 11:30:07 <jcpham>	never said the word bitcoin on  chargeback dispute for btcfpga.com
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Jan 14 11:31:35 <pigeons>	so basic isn't doing striaght up refunds, you have to chargeback?
Jan 14 11:32:07 <jcpham>	i paid with cc
Jan 14 11:32:09 <jcpham>	fuck 'em
Jan 14 11:32:12 <jcpham>	http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mt-gox.asp?partner=rss-termofday#axzz2HxvCsB4v
Jan 14 11:32:35 <jcpham>	6 months ago i would have let it play out
Jan 14 11:32:40 <pigeons>	yeah
Jan 14 11:32:51 <jcpham>	now i'm not patient enough for fail boats
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Jan 14 11:37:09 <gigavps>	lol jcpham fail boats
Jan 14 11:37:28 <jcpham>	gigavps gets the reference
Jan 14 11:37:39 <jcpham>	bitcoin is full shinking ship fail boats
Jan 14 11:38:16 <mircea_popescu>	We're sorry, but that is an invalid password. Valid passwords can contain only numbers, characters, and underscores.
Jan 14 11:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	in 2013 ;/
Jan 14 11:39:09 <gigavps>	lol
Jan 14 11:39:19 <gigavps>	i had a site limit me to 16 characters
Jan 14 11:39:27 <gigavps>	because i use 30
Jan 14 11:39:40 <mircea_popescu>	we are sorry but you seem to have used the letter t
Jan 14 11:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	we only allow vowels in our passwords
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Jan 14 12:10:27 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/N/FT/2yWZ9LdN/422257522727834424341135.jpg
Jan 14 12:11:47 <Korbman>	because an AR-15 fires a projectile, whereas a car, knife, or hammer does not
Jan 14 12:14:06 <kakobrekla>	all of the above can be a projectile
Jan 14 12:14:35 <kakobrekla>	or projectalised
Jan 14 12:14:39 <thestringpuller>	did Basic have a bitpay account?
Jan 14 12:21:05 <Korbman>	hahah I suppose that's true...though I'd say the effective range varies greatly
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Jan 14 12:21:28 <Schadenfreude>	I assume a semi-auto rifle is a lot more useful for self defence than any other object in that img
Jan 14 12:22:17 <jcpham>	1 of Spartacus Blown Medium Realistic Glass Dildo, Clear [ASIN: B006U1Z6UW]
Jan 14 12:22:18 <jcpham>	------------- Begin message -------------
Jan 14 12:22:18 <jcpham>	Hello Josh,
Jan 14 12:22:18 <jcpham>	We are sorry to inform you that we no longer have this item in stock, and we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused
Jan 14 12:22:51 <jcpham>	that was going to be the centerpiece of the whole room
Jan 14 12:23:42 <Korbman>	bwahah
Jan 14 12:24:01 <Schadenfreude>	Isn't glass poor material for a dildo?
Jan 14 12:24:22 <Korbman>	just hope it doesn't break...
Jan 14 12:24:23 <jcpham>	shrug
Jan 14 12:24:30 <kakobrekla>	gotta be pyrex or some shit
Jan 14 12:24:57 <Schadenfreude>	Better than 1 guy 1 cup
Jan 14 12:25:04 <jcpham>	I was going to glue it to my neighbors house
Jan 14 12:25:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.48 = 3.36 BTC [+]
Jan 14 12:25:33 <jcpham>	or possibly put it at the top of a radio tower
Jan 14 12:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	tip of a radio tower
Jan 14 12:29:54 <thestringpuller>	feadal times
Jan 14 12:30:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.485 = 12.125 BTC [+]
Jan 14 12:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.485 = 11.155 BTC [+]
Jan 14 12:35:17 <thestringpuller>	trilema needs a search bar
Jan 14 12:35:38 <thestringpuller>	waaaah
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Jan 14 12:37:36 <jurov>	lol thestringpusher
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Jan 14 12:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Jan 14 12:53:44 <gigavps>	did you guys see this -> https://forums.butterflylabs.com/attachments/announcements/394d1358117669-bfl-asic-status-prodn.jpg
Jan 14 12:54:49 <Korbman>	Yup, what about it?
Jan 14 12:54:59 <Korbman>	I admit I haven't really looked at it that much though
Jan 14 12:55:08 <gigavps>	can anyone tell me what the blue parts are, there are 16 of them
Jan 14 13:02:08 <kakobrekla>	umm im being asked for user/pass
Jan 14 13:02:13 <kakobrekla>	can you make a userless link?
Jan 14 13:02:34 <kakobrekla>	upload it to somewhere?
Jan 14 13:02:55 <gigavps>	http://i.imgur.com/tNLUo.jpg
Jan 14 13:03:00 <kakobrekla>	ty
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Jan 14 13:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	clock
Jan 14 13:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	buffets
Jan 14 13:17:02 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 14 13:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/a-little-bit-of-ddos/
Jan 14 13:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone's curious
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Jan 14 13:38:07 <Schadenfreude>	Is it likely for the the BTC price to fall in the next two weeks? Not much, but to about $13
Jan 14 13:39:45 <Schadenfreude>	I'm sitting on some cash which would best be put to work as BTC, but I'm afraid I'll lose 5-10% on a price drop
Jan 14 13:43:20 <Korbman>	You could hedge it a bit...buy 1/3 of your bitcoins now, another 1/3 next week, and 1/3 a week after that.
Jan 14 13:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	why does 5-10% make a difference ?
Jan 14 13:46:16 <Schadenfreude>	Well, buying now would be bad if the price dropped 5-10% again in the next time
Jan 14 13:47:22 <mircea_popescu>	if btc is going up to infinity, then infinity minus 5% is not materially different
Jan 14 13:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	if btc is not going up to infinity it's not worth buying in the first place.
Jan 14 13:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.489 = 7.824 BTC [+]
Jan 14 13:48:09 <Korbman>	that's why you buy both times...buying now at $14.20, then again at $14 would give you an average of $14.10 ...if it goes above that you make a profit
Jan 14 13:48:27 <Korbman>	it's just trying to figure out when it's going to go up that's the hard part
Jan 14 13:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	my first btc i bought at 15.
Jan 14 13:48:59 <Korbman>	same
Jan 14 13:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	then it was 2.
Jan 14 13:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	well... i bought more.
Jan 14 13:49:23 <Schadenfreude>	Better than buying at 35, I guess
Jan 14 13:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	someone who spent 35k to buy 1k btc at 35 and kept them has 1k btc.
Jan 14 13:50:07 <Korbman>	I suppose it depends if you're looking for short term or long term gains
Jan 14 13:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	someone who bought 1k btc at .5 and invested it with pirate...
Jan 14 13:51:05 <Korbman>	...early has 1k+(1.07^4 weeks)
Jan 14 13:51:11 <Korbman>	haha
Jan 14 13:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	indeed :D
Jan 14 13:51:32 <Schadenfreude>	And if somebody invested with pirate and got out in time...
Jan 14 13:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	how many weeks is that ?
Jan 14 13:53:15 <Korbman>	sorry, should read "*" not "+"
Jan 14 13:53:25 <Korbman>	and it's for 4 weeks...I figured a month would be fine
Jan 14 13:53:43 <Korbman>	1310btc if you invested early with pirate
Jan 14 13:53:51 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 14 13:53:54 <Korbman>	and reinvested
Jan 14 13:53:58 <Korbman>	haha
Jan 14 13:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	if you bought s.mpoe early... it was like 2k satoshi.
Jan 14 13:54:22 <Schadenfreude>	mp, how many % of your money did you convert to BTC? Curious how confident you are with it
Jan 14 13:54:40 <Korbman>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 14 13:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065962 / 0.00066 (5065195 shares, 3,341.14 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065738 / 0.00066 (11455209 shares, 7,530.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.00063503 / 0.00066 (46620168 shares, 29,605.34 BTC)
Jan 14 13:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude not a large part.
Jan 14 14:21:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.48 = 10.08 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 14:28:47 <OgNasty>	https://nastyfans.org - Now open to new members.
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Jan 14 14:31:23 <mircea_popescu>	you need a better logo.
Jan 14 14:32:04 <topace>	and a working ssl cert :p
Jan 14 14:32:38 <OgNasty>	Thanks for the advice.  A logo wasn't a big concern obviously and the ssl cert works fine, it just is private.  ;)
Jan 14 14:33:10 <topace>	assbot isnt announcing mpex trades
Jan 14 14:33:16 <OgNasty>	Concerns were speed and functionality.  :)
Jan 14 14:35:56 <gigavps>	lol, mircea_popescu is talking about design
Jan 14 14:36:26 <gigavps>	those who own 1998 looking websites should not cast stones!
Jan 14 14:36:40 <OgNasty>	gigavps I had a chuckle at that as well.
Jan 14 14:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i think the mpex logo is kinda snappy
Jan 14 14:37:06 <gigavps>	logo you say?
Jan 14 14:37:08 <smickles>	the M
Jan 14 14:37:15 <smickles>	it's a nice font
Jan 14 14:37:17 <gigavps>	please link this image
Jan 14 14:37:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Jan 14 14:37:33 <smickles>	mpex.co/favicon.ico
Jan 14 14:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	might take a reload
Jan 14 14:38:10 <jurov>	bigger: http://bitbet.us/media/images/ads/mpex-468x60.png
Jan 14 14:38:30 <thestringpuller>	|           | 0.00451334 |    1`012 |
Jan 14 14:38:30 <thestringpuller>	|-----------+------------+----------|
Jan 14 14:38:33 <thestringpuller>	|     1`201 | 0.00450700 |          |
Jan 14 14:38:44 <thestringpuller>	current spread
Jan 14 14:38:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol someone likes linx ?
Jan 14 14:39:11 <smickles>	jebus fuck, when did bitbet get an over 1kbtc bet going
Jan 14 14:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	it moves quickly.
Jan 14 14:39:40 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you return
Jan 14 14:39:45 <thestringpuller>	can we talk soon?
Jan 14 14:39:55 <smickles>	I guess it's nearly 1k anyway
Jan 14 14:39:59 <smickles>	thestringpuller: sure :)
Jan 14 14:40:55 <thestringpuller>	lets meey at 1900 utc
Jan 14 14:41:55 <smickles>	ah, so tomorrow?
Jan 14 14:44:50 <OgNasty>	Not sure what exactly assbot needs, but this list of seat transfers is available publicly... https://nastyfans.org/buys.csv
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Jan 14 14:46:52 <gigavps>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136499.0
Jan 14 14:46:55 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: when will assbot get sales again?
Jan 14 14:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller prolly tomorrow.
Jan 14 14:51:08 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: ya know, i was coding an mpex android client for myself, I couldn't find which font that 'M' is
Jan 14 14:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	>D
Jan 14 14:51:22 <smickles>	i ended up using comic sans, 'cause it looks close
Jan 14 14:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha asshat
Jan 14 14:51:30 <smickles>	it's not as wide tho
Jan 14 14:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	comic looks niothing like!
Jan 14 14:51:47 <smickles>	;D
Jan 14 14:52:07 <smickles>	lets see, what did I actually use...
Jan 14 14:54:53 <jcpham>	wingdings
Jan 14 14:55:16 <smickles>	trebuchet MS
Jan 14 14:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 14 14:56:56 <smickles>	woah, mpoebot is offline?
Jan 14 14:57:11 <smickles>	quick, someone give me a bunch of btc to pipe into my bot!
Jan 14 14:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	no, just can't get price signal.
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Jan 14 14:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	i mean she could, but meh.
Jan 14 14:57:27 <smickles>	you can't get a price signal?
Jan 14 14:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	im a little walled in.
Jan 14 14:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	o, you missed the day's events huh
Jan 14 14:57:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/a-little-bit-of-ddos/
Jan 14 14:57:53 <smickles>	0_o
Jan 14 15:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	"Late in 1993 I sold 10 million shares of Cap Cities at $63; at year-end 1994, the price was $85 1/4. (The difference is $222.5 million for those of you who wish to avoid the pain of calculating the damage yourself.) When we purchased the stock at $17.25 in 1986, I told you that I had previously sold our Cap Cities holdings at $4.30 per share during 1978-80, and added that I was at a loss to explain my earlier behavior
Jan 14 15:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	."
Jan 14 15:01:52 <smickles>	"One bot, for instance, asked no less than 720 times for the same order to be cancelled, because it wasn’t getting the one response it was expecting." um...
Jan 14 15:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	a-ha
Jan 14 15:03:57 <smickles>	would that happen to be order 5228684
Jan 14 15:04:02 <smickles>	>_>
Jan 14 15:04:07 <smickles>	<_<
Jan 14 15:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Jan 14 15:08:58 <smickles>	I told you that I had some 'optimization' to do
Jan 14 15:09:30 <jurov>	particularly, inserting sleep statements.
Jan 14 15:10:15 <smickles>	hey, ther's a sleep statement
Jan 14 15:10:31 <smickles>	it's just something like half a second currently
Jan 14 15:10:41 <jurov>	lol...examining the situation every 10-20s is good enough
Jan 14 15:13:19 <jurov>	i tell you, at least some of these ninjas who issued orders mid-BBET-IPO actually did it via coinbr
Jan 14 15:13:42 <jurov>	and even for that it wasn;t necessary to hit it every half second
Jan 14 15:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	actually i think next ipo in that style will be +3 seconds rather than +!
Jan 14 15:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	When Richard Branson, the wealthy owner of Virgin Atlantic
Jan 14 15:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	Airways, was asked how to become a millionaire, he had a quick
Jan 14 15:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	answer: "There's really nothing to it. Start as a billionaire and then
Jan 14 15:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	buy an airline."
Jan 14 15:21:02 <topace>	lol
Jan 14 15:21:08 <Namworld>	marvelous strategy
Jan 14 15:21:21 <Namworld>	why didn't I think of that?
Jan 14 15:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	obviously it's not for you.
Jan 14 15:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	this be for smart people.
Jan 14 15:22:27 <Korbman>	lol
Jan 14 15:28:45 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: so why are you talking about it then?
Jan 14 15:30:37 <smickles>	"Well, I'll tell you one thing. Having a kid ended my addiction to being a recreational asswipe and made me seriously consider stopping that professionally."
Jan 14 15:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 14 15:32:29 <kakobrekla>	that bfl core pic is not for flip-chip design but for wirebond
Jan 14 15:34:02 <EskimoBob>	smickles: this is something that MPOE-BS wrote?
Jan 14 15:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133819.0
Jan 14 15:35:13 <smickles>	EskimoBob: actually, I just made it up
Jan 14 15:35:40 <smickles>	I thought it sounded better as an unattributed quote
Jan 14 15:36:03 <EskimoBob>	smickles: LOL. One day she will write something like that for sure... unless she hangs herself or something like that
Jan 14 15:36:29 <smickles>	clearly, i'm a literary genious because it brought an excellent image to your mind
Jan 14 15:36:42 <kakobrekla>	;>
Jan 14 15:36:43 <mircea_popescu>	also because you can speal.
Jan 14 15:37:03 <smickles>	:o
Jan 14 15:37:07 <mircea_popescu>	>D
Jan 14 15:37:19 <EskimoBob>	smickles: actually it's really horrible, if she writes that. gene pool is tainted then :(
Jan 14 15:37:35 <jcpham>	anything new and awesome happening on the bitcointalk forums?
Jan 14 15:37:41 <jcpham>	i'm so out of touch...
Jan 14 15:37:45 <smickles>	EskimoBob: well, i meant from an artistic point of view
Jan 14 15:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham inaba proposed
Jan 14 15:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	to usagi.
Jan 14 15:38:41 <smickles>	woah
Jan 14 15:38:47 <jcpham>	sweet
Jan 14 15:38:58 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 14 15:39:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.25004, Best ask: 14.29000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03996, Last trade: 14.25004, 24 hour volume: 22752.84667883, 24 hour low: 14.06541, 24 hour high: 14.34600, 24 hour vwap: 14.22608
Jan 14 15:39:05 <jcpham>	i hope someone took pictures/sideway video
Jan 14 15:39:12 <EskimoBob>	:)
Jan 14 15:39:16 <jcpham>	nothink like portrait-video
Jan 14 15:39:19 <jcpham>	*nothing
Jan 14 15:40:01 <EskimoBob>	i like "nothing portrait-video" of those 2
Jan 14 15:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 14 15:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	i like portrait video. it's like .. it gives the art depth man
Jan 14 15:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	"Dear Accusation Scam Forum Connoisseurs;"
Jan 14 15:40:50 <jcpham>	my keyboarding is fail
Jan 14 15:45:53 <smickles>	++gud
Jan 14 15:52:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [-]
Jan 14 16:05:13 <smickles>	jurov: "Does it mean that, for example pyMPEx will come bundled with fall back list of proxies to send requests to in case of mpex.co is unreachable?" I could do that if you wanted
Jan 14 16:05:34 <smickles>	i was also thinking of adding the option to specify a keyring to use
Jan 14 16:06:05 <smickles>	also, you could do it
Jan 14 16:06:16 <smickles>	;p
Jan 14 16:06:46 <jurov>	i know, i want to finish at least something of this i have here first
Jan 14 16:09:44 <jurov>	just realized that i added file logging of every command and decrypted output for future reference..
Jan 14 16:09:51 <jurov>	very useful, but never pushed that, shame on me
Jan 14 16:10:23 <smickles>	heh, same here, but i've done it in another module
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Jan 14 16:31:58 <Dishwasha>	This may sound like a naive question, but how would a person go about becoming a bitcoin exchange?  Particularly to only process bitcoin transfers?
Jan 14 16:33:15 <Dishwasha>	Is the idea to create a network with 6+ other exchanges and submit transaction to them and once at least 6 are confirmed the transaction is complete?
Jan 14 16:33:15 <Namworld>	only process bitcoin transfers? Everyone can already transfer bitcoins =/
Jan 14 16:33:47 <Namworld>	No, bitcoins don't work like that.
Jan 14 16:34:08 <Dishwasha>	Namworld: But the idea would be that I want my service to receive the transaction confirmation as quickly as possible.
Jan 14 16:34:09 <FabianB>	Dishwasha: bitcoin is peer2peer
Jan 14 16:34:34 <Dishwasha>	Yeah, I get that.  But there's no reason why you can't control which peers you communicate with.
Jan 14 16:35:16 <Namworld>	But which peers you communicate with doesn't change anything.
Jan 14 16:35:26 <Namworld>	Unless they form a closed network willingly.
Jan 14 16:35:29 <Dishwasha>	But it can change how quickly a transaction takes to process.
Jan 14 16:35:42 <Dishwasha>	Namworld: Yes, you can pay for better bandwidth, etc.
Jan 14 16:35:51 <Namworld>	But then they're excluded from the bitcoin system.
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Jan 14 16:36:18 <Namworld>	They have a new system working differently.
Jan 14 16:36:29 <FabianB>	confirmations are what counts
Jan 14 16:38:03 <Namworld>	Transactions are almost instant.
Jan 14 16:38:52 <Dishwasha>	I'm not sure I know how to formulate my question so I'll say it in a very stupid way: Where in the specification or are there any resources that can point me in the direction of how I would become an mt.Gox?
Jan 14 16:39:27 <kakobrekla>	if you are asking that - you should not be doing it
Jan 14 16:39:29 <FabianB>	that has nothing to do with bitcoin itself
Jan 14 16:39:48 <Dishwasha>	kako: Hah, that's why I said it was a stupid question.  I knew you'd say that.
Jan 14 16:40:30 <FabianB>	mtgox could be mtgox even if they were not well connected to the bitcoin network
Jan 14 16:40:48 <Dishwasha>	So let's say I'm client #1 and somebody else is client #2.  What is the most efficient way for me to verify confirmations for client #2?  Would it be most efficient to query the peers they specifically submitted their transaction to?
Jan 14 16:41:10 <Namworld>	MtGox != How bitcoins are transfered or process the transfers. It just allows you to make a deposit in bitcoins or other currency, and then hold it for you. They then allow you to trade your balance with other currencies with other users.
Jan 14 16:41:44 <Namworld>	MtGox has nothing to do with the transfer of bitcoins.
Jan 14 16:42:03 <FabianB>	Dishwasha: doesn't matter, miners confirm your transaction, not you yourself
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Jan 14 16:42:29 <Dishwasha_>	Bleh, got disconnected.  If somebody replied to my last question could you please re-post?
Jan 14 16:42:39 <Namworld>	[16:41] <Namworld> MtGox != How bitcoins are transfered or process the transfers. It just allows you to make a deposit in bitcoins or other currency, and then hold it for you. They then allow you to trade your balance with other currencies with other users.
Jan 14 16:42:39 <Namworld>	[16:41] <Namworld> MtGox has nothing to do with the transfer of bitcoins.
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Jan 14 16:43:11 <Dishwasha_>	Namworld: The efficiency question, not the mt.Gox.
Jan 14 16:43:31 <Korbman>	mining confirms transactions, not a single person or entity
Jan 14 16:43:59 <Korbman>	well..technically speaking, a single person who is mining could confirm a transaction..
Jan 14 16:43:59 <Namworld>	The verify confirmations, just check the blockchain. Blocks are added to it. Each one is a confirmation.
Jan 14 16:44:10 <Namworld>	To verify*
Jan 14 16:44:18 <Korbman>	indeed
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Jan 14 16:45:59 <Namworld>	You are confirmed of a transaction almost instantly, and each block further confirms the transaction. These are received also almost instantly.
Jan 14 16:46:00 <Dishwasha_>	Namworld: right, whoever is the fastest to confirm a transaction should also be the most timely peer to query if a verification is received.  If I go and query some other peer, they aren't necessarily going to know about that transaction at that point in time because it hasn't bubbled to them.
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Jan 14 16:46:17 <Dishwasha_>	Or am I mistaken in that regard?
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Jan 14 16:46:53 <FabianB>	Dishwasha: it doesn't matter, only the miners confirmations matter
Jan 14 16:47:00 <Namworld>	The time between those two moment will probably be of a few seconds at most...
Jan 14 16:47:02 <FabianB>	they only happen on average every 10 minutes
Jan 14 16:47:32 <Namworld>	Almost everyone gets notified almost immediatly when a new block is made and start loading it.
Jan 14 16:47:46 <dub>	 txn != blocks
Jan 14 16:48:08 <dub>	wtf my terminal is all kinds of fucked
Jan 14 16:48:17 <Namworld>	nope, but both are received fast, except blocks take a little time to download.
Jan 14 16:48:24 <dub>	oh I reattahced with the wrong screen ver
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Jan 14 16:51:21 <Dishwasha>	Bleh, using a real IRC client now.
Jan 14 16:54:24 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell smickles see pm
Jan 14 16:54:25 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 14 17:15:19 <FabianB>	jurov: there?
Jan 14 17:15:30 <jurov>	yea
Jan 14 17:15:54 <FabianB>	jurov: can you process my deposit?
Jan 14 17:16:51 <jurov>	FabianB, PM
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Jan 14 17:24:59 <thestringpuller>	new bitbet Facebook to buy Netflix by end of year.
Jan 14 17:26:42 <iz>	that seems like a safe one to bet against
Jan 14 17:27:47 <iz>	"but... what i meant was that someone AT Facebook would buy a Netflix subscription by end of year....  so.. you lose..  sorry, my name is matthew"
Jan 14 17:29:15 <dub>	lol
Jan 14 17:32:59 <Namworld>	Eh, it was ridiculous at the end...
Jan 14 17:33:13 <Namworld>	I think I bet 10 000 BTC or something.
Jan 14 17:34:06 <Namworld>	My first bet was serious... then he started having lots of total bets... then it got just as unlikely as it got ridiculous.
Jan 14 17:34:22 <Namworld>	I started regularly upping my bet =P
Jan 14 17:34:30 <kakobrekla>	speaking of bitbet, some short downtime possible today/tomorrow
Jan 14 17:34:37 <dub>	I can't believe anyone thought MNW would pay
Jan 14 17:35:27 <Namworld>	Well he was respectable and initially there wasn't a very large amount of bets. It wasn't impossible. It quickly became apparent it was nonsense.
Jan 14 17:35:37 <Namworld>	tho
Jan 14 17:36:43 <thestringpuller>	this isnt my speculation some guy on cnbc thinks facebook is going to announce acquisition plans tomorrow
Jan 14 17:37:00 <dub>	I can't believe anyone thought he was respectable
Jan 14 17:37:36 <dub>	don't recall him ever doing anything worthwhile, only trolling and fuckwittery
Jan 14 17:40:45 <iz>	thestringpuller: guys on cnbc have been full of crap before too
Jan 14 17:41:12 <iz>	that guy prob has money invested in nflx
Jan 14 17:42:02 <iz>	nflx and fb have a close relationship w/ each other, but i don't think it makes sense for one to buy the other
Jan 14 17:43:41 <Diablo-D3>	nflx and fb have a close relationship because they're both used by most of america
Jan 14 17:45:22 <iz>	well, also nflx ceo reed hastings was made a fb board member last year
Jan 14 17:46:05 <iz>	and there was just a privacy bill signed recently that would allow netflix to share user's viewing prefs on facebook
Jan 14 17:47:21 <iz>	thestringpuller: was it a guy named "Hank Greenberg" that was on CNBC predicting facebook would buy netflix?
Jan 14 17:49:42 <thestringpuller>	iz no
Jan 14 17:49:46 <thestringpuller>	it was some telecomm guy
Jan 14 17:49:54 <thestringpuller>	id never heard of
Jan 14 17:52:53 <iz>	ah
Jan 14 17:52:55 <iz>	http://www.marketsqueeze.com/2011/12/01/hank-greenberg-predicts-facebook-will-buy-netflix/
Jan 14 17:53:32 <iz>	some guy named hank greenberg made the same prediction about facebook and netflix on CNBC like a month and a half ago
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Jan 14 17:57:38 <Namworld>	So... stock jumped $2 on that announcement?
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Jan 14 18:02:08 <iz>	Namworld: maybe on the announcement of the US privacy bill being signed into law
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Jan 14 18:03:01 <Namworld>	eh
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Jan 14 18:09:22 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 14 18:09:38 <Bugpowder>	assbot
Jan 14 18:09:42 <Bugpowder>	where are u???
Jan 14 18:10:08 <kakobrekla>	ah yeah
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Jan 14 18:11:03 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 14 18:11:03 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 14 18:11:07 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 14 18:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00449034 / 0.0045939 / 0.00475 (195749 shares, 899.25 BTC), 7D: 0.00449 / 0.00467517 / 0.0048 (1995441 shares, 9,329.04 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00354887 / 0.0048 (11943086 shares, 42,384.49 BTC)
Jan 14 18:11:12 <kakobrekla>	one of hdds died on mah server :\
Jan 14 18:11:13 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 14 18:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (150270 shares, 270.49 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00076159 / 0.0035 (2146636 shares, 1,634.87 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00076159 / 0.0035 (2146636 shares, 1,634.87 BTC)
Jan 14 18:11:18 <Bugpowder>	sorry dood
Jan 14 18:11:39 <Bugpowder>	Hmmm.... how to value my S.BBET fairly
Jan 14 18:11:48 <Bugpowder>	the 7 day is too low
Jan 14 18:11:49 <kakobrekla>	impossibru
Jan 14 18:11:54 <Bugpowder>	the 1 day is probalby too high
Jan 14 18:12:08 <Bugpowder>	although there is some volume at that price point
Jan 14 18:12:22 <Bugpowder>	maybe I will split the bid and the ask
Jan 14 18:12:40 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 14 18:12:58 <kakobrekla>	i still didnt get any
Jan 14 18:13:03 <kakobrekla>	bah
Jan 14 18:13:12 <kakobrekla>	noone wants to dump
Jan 14 18:14:04 <Bugpowder>	I am selling a few at 180
Jan 14 18:14:07 <Bugpowder>	if you want them
Jan 14 18:14:08 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 14 18:14:17 <kakobrekla>	i see that :)
Jan 14 18:14:28 <Bugpowder>	I brought my price down!
Jan 14 18:14:44 <kakobrekla>	there was a tiny buy at 180
Jan 14 18:14:52 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 14 18:14:57 <Bugpowder>	there was a big buy overnight
Jan 14 18:14:58 <Bugpowder>	at 180
Jan 14 18:15:15 <kakobrekla>	oh?
Jan 14 18:15:17 <kakobrekla>	must have missed it
Jan 14 18:15:22 <Bugpowder>	150k
Jan 14 18:15:30 <kakobrekla>	a not bad
Jan 14 18:16:00 <Bugpowder>	I have had 21 consecutive days of gains in my bitcoin portfolio
Jan 14 18:16:06 <Bugpowder>	I do not want to break the streak
Jan 14 18:16:16 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 14 18:16:21 <kakobrekla>	gl
Jan 14 18:17:38 <Bugpowder>	up 78% in dollar terms since Dec 1
Jan 14 18:17:49 <thestringpuller>	god damn niff
Jan 14 18:17:52 <thestringpuller>	Nigga*
Jan 14 18:18:00 <Bugpowder>	and that is valuing SBBET at .001
Jan 14 18:18:10 <Bugpowder>	which is a clear undervaluation
Jan 14 18:18:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [-]
Jan 14 18:18:41 <Bugpowder>	If I hadn't lost shit in GLBSE collapse.
Jan 14 18:18:44 <Bugpowder>	damn
Jan 14 18:19:08 <Bugpowder>	I would be a miniballer
Jan 14 18:19:22 <thestringpuller>	how much did you lose in glbse?
Jan 14 18:19:26 <thestringpuller>	i was lucky
Jan 14 18:19:51 <Bugpowder>	I sniffed it out and got most out, but still lost 20%.
Jan 14 18:20:05 <thestringpuller>	20% of what?
Jan 14 18:20:07 <Bugpowder>	that combined the with F.GIGA collapse
Jan 14 18:20:12 <Bugpowder>	20% of everything
Jan 14 18:20:18 <Bugpowder>	(coins)
Jan 14 18:20:29 <kakobrekla>	20% of life
Jan 14 18:20:40 <Bugpowder>	hehe
Jan 14 18:20:52 <Bugpowder>	dinnertime
Jan 14 18:20:53 <Bugpowder>	!
Jan 14 18:20:57 <thestringpuller>	how mich*
Jan 14 18:21:00 <kakobrekla>	enjoy
Jan 14 18:21:02 <thestringpuller>	much**
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Jan 14 18:44:31 <jurov>	since i found out coinbr referrals were not used much...
Jan 14 18:44:40 <jurov>	we just doubled referral credits for all users. Earn 0.2% from affiliate trades!
Jan 14 18:46:28 <Namworld>	seems low... for example, if the referall trades for 1000 BTC, we only get 2 BTC
Jan 14 18:46:50 <Namworld>	Not a nice transaction/referral earning ratio
Jan 14 18:47:11 <Diablo-D3>	yeah really
Jan 14 18:47:20 <Namworld>	Thus poor benefits proportional to advertising.
Jan 14 18:47:28 <Diablo-D3>	whats the coinbr fee?
Jan 14 18:47:29 <jurov>	lol, how much would you want? whole fee is 5BTC
Jan 14 18:47:31 <Diablo-D3>	1%?
Jan 14 18:47:37 <jurov>	0,5%
Jan 14 18:47:59 <Namworld>	Whereas a service which can offer 10 - 50% of price gains more to be advertised.
Jan 14 18:48:00 <Diablo-D3>	wait, what is this fee for? per transaction?
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Jan 14 18:48:14 <footsite>	BUY YOUR BIT COINS NOW UK & EU RESIDENTS CAN USE THE FASTER PAYMENTS OPTION VIA THERE ONLINE BANKING & WILL RECEIVE BIT COINS INSTANT AND INTERNATIONAL TRANSFERS TAKE 1 - 2 DAYS TO CLEAR https://bitcoinberudechange.com/ ONCE YOU HAVE PURCHASED WE ARE FASTER THAN MTGOX AS THEY TAKE 2 - 5 WORKING DAYS PLEASE LEAVE YOUR REVIEWS.
Jan 14 18:48:15 <footsite>	BUY YOUR BIT COINS NOW UK & EU RESIDENTS CAN USE THE FASTER PAYMENTS OPTION VIA THERE ONLINE BANKING & WILL RECEIVE BIT COINS INSTANT AND INTERNATIONAL TRANSFERS TAKE 1 - 2 DAYS TO CLEAR https://bitcoinberudechange.com/ ONCE YOU HAVE PURCHASED WE ARE FASTER THAN MTGOX AS THEY TAKE 2 - 5 WORKING DAYS PLEASE LEAVE YOUR REVIEWS.
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Jan 14 18:48:24 <jurov>	from trade volume. and yes, there are users with 1000BTC monthly volume
Jan 14 18:48:29 <Namworld>	Thank you, Be Rude Exchange.
Jan 14 18:48:30 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: okay then
Jan 14 18:48:49 <Diablo-D3>	1% fee, half of it goes to referrals if referred.
Jan 14 18:49:03 <Namworld>	We have acknowledged your message of spam and annoyance and will form a religion based around it.
Jan 14 18:49:28 <Diablo-D3>	for the first year, anyways
Jan 14 18:49:35 <Diablo-D3>	prevents people from living off referrals
Jan 14 18:49:49 <jurov>	Diablo-D3, bitcointalk would eat me alive if we asked 1%
Jan 14 18:49:58 <Diablo-D3>	grow a pair.
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Jan 14 18:51:39 <Namworld>	A pair is not useful if it makes you undertake suicidal actions.
Jan 14 18:51:43 <jurov>	looks like coinbr is now attractive to users that can otherwise easily afford to buy mpex acct themselves.
Jan 14 18:51:48 <jurov>	with 1% it would not be the case
Jan 14 18:52:50 <jurov>	why they would not ask me for private coinbr instance instead, that eludes me, but at the moment i'm satisfied with the arrangement.
Jan 14 18:53:04 <pigeons>	i would think its cheaper to buy S.DICE via CoinBR than to pay 5% of dividends + over market price for passtrhoughs
Jan 14 18:53:17 <jurov>	yes, that too.
Jan 14 18:54:04 <pigeons>	I don't think people know that. I'll have to setup an account one day and see if it is as smooth as toliet paper like mpex
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Jan 14 18:54:44 <jurov>	what? about the passthrough?
Jan 14 18:55:11 <pigeons>	yeah I think a lot of people who are into the havelock stuff don't know about just using coinbr
Jan 14 18:56:42 <jurov>	yes, 0.09BTC scares them, but that's fine... it's still beta and probably won't be able to handle zillions of users
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Jan 14 18:57:09 <jurov>	just today I found another race condition and had to fix some balances by hand
Jan 14 19:00:00 <jurov>	incidentally, mircea does exactly the same
Jan 14 19:00:02 <pigeons>	yeah much easier to work out stuff while small
Jan 14 19:00:13 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 14 19:00:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.30002, Best ask: 14.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 14.30002, 24 hour volume: 22096.95301732, 24 hour low: 14.11000, 24 hour high: 14.35000, 24 hour vwap: 14.25611
Jan 14 19:00:52 <Namworld>	It's not about not wanting to handle many users... mircea does not want those users.
Jan 14 19:01:24 <Namworld>	He wants to operate an exchange in the traditional sense. If someone needs small investments, deal with a broker like you.
Jan 14 19:01:36 <jurov>	and how he did the interface, it forces me to adopt similar approach.
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Jan 14 19:05:02 <jurov>	maybe in future we will be able to tune the code to flawlessly feed, like, 1 order/second to mpex on average.. but now it's far from it
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Jan 14 19:05:51 <jurov>	and i suspect things aren't ready on mircea's side, too
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Jan 14 19:15:52 <jurov>	looks like someone did not understood: https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-O
Jan 14 19:16:17 <jurov>	buying at 0.12 implies 20% MPBOR
Jan 14 19:16:49 <jurov>	expectation
Jan 14 19:17:10 <jurov>	.. but maybe someone has internal information, lol
Jan 14 19:17:11 <pigeons>	ok i see now, just a few coins anyway
Jan 14 19:17:17 <kakobrekla>	dont expect people to be rational
Jan 14 19:19:05 <jurov>	i'll rather mention it in btctalk...so that my back is properly covered
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Jan 14 19:20:56 <pigeons>	it was me, still learning
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Jan 14 19:23:07 <jurov>	no problem, with reinvestment you'll likely recover it it few months. but it bears some explanation.
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Jan 14 19:58:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.0099 = 4.95 BTC [-]
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Jan 14 19:59:27 <Namworld>	People have to stop selling under par value...
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Jan 14 20:20:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 44 @ 0.3299 = 14.5156 BTC [-]
Jan 14 20:20:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.33 = 1.98 BTC [+]
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Jan 14 20:47:01 <drug_motor>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjhEo0MWDJU
Jan 14 20:58:04 <thestrin1puller>	why is basic still worth anything
Jan 14 21:01:43 <dub>	Namworld: its hard to follow your logic, are you blaming people for selling out below the price you should be buying them back at?
Jan 14 21:03:56 <smickles>	;;calc .1/5
Jan 14 21:03:57 <gribble>	0.02
Jan 14 21:05:17 <mod6>	oh hey, S.BVPS paid another div!
Jan 14 21:05:32 <smickles>	mod6: i think that was for the sale
Jan 14 21:06:53 <smickles>	can anyone beat a .1 btc fee for moving 5 btc onto mpex?
Jan 14 21:07:54 <mod6>	smickles: you mean the recent sale of bvps?
Jan 14 21:08:20 <smickles>	mod6: yes
Jan 14 21:09:06 <smickles>	c'mon mpex account holders, it's "practicly free money"
Jan 14 21:09:07 <mod6>	oh hmm. *shrug*
Jan 14 21:09:36 <mod6>	you need 5 btc loan?
Jan 14 21:10:17 <mod6>	i think the min deposit to mpex is 10 BTC
Jan 14 21:10:44 <smickles>	yeah, i want to beat the min deposit and processing time
Jan 14 21:11:12 <smickles>	so i need someone with 5 btc on mpex to spare
Jan 14 21:11:47 <smickles>	they send 5 mpexbtc to my account, i send them 5 + x actual btc
Jan 14 21:12:13 <mod6>	oh. ok.
Jan 14 21:14:12 <mod6>	i'd do it if you could just push it back to me in 1 week.
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Jan 14 21:14:23 <mod6>	inside of mpex
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Jan 14 21:16:00 <mod6>	oooh, you want to do this like, all the time.
Jan 14 21:16:12 <smickles>	mod6: I can in all likelyhood push back within a day or so
Jan 14 21:16:37 <smickles>	heh, if we can automate it, i probably would use it often
Jan 14 21:17:34 <smickles>	kakobrekla: you haven't done that(^) yet, have you?
Jan 14 21:18:01 <mod6>	hmm. well, i can help you out this time for sure. not sure if i've got enough to cover a more frequent amount or anything.
Jan 14 21:18:25 <smickles>	oh, kakobrekla, i just noticed you stopped doing that for mtgox even
Jan 14 21:18:33 <kakobrekla>	o hey
Jan 14 21:18:39 <kakobrekla>	yeah that was recent
Jan 14 21:18:46 <kakobrekla>	mtg is not doing much
Jan 14 21:19:51 <kakobrekla>	anywho its beter i focus on bb what and my other stuff
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Jan 14 21:20:01 <kakobrekla>	whatnot*
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Jan 14 21:34:32 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 14 21:34:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.20680, Best ask: 14.28499, Bid-ask spread: 0.07819, Last trade: 14.28499, 24 hour volume: 27504.08184136, 24 hour low: 14.11483, 24 hour high: 14.40000, 24 hour vwap: 14.26847
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Jan 14 21:59:02 <mod6>	!ticker mpex S.MPOE
Jan 14 21:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065953 / 0.00066 (5086139 shares, 3,354.49 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065763 / 0.00066 (11249036 shares, 7,397.75 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.00063519 / 0.00066 (45860024 shares, 29,130.15 BTC)
Jan 14 21:59:56 <mod6>	i saw that one late lastnight
Jan 14 22:01:09 <Bugpowder>	wut
Jan 14 22:02:30 <mod6>	HA HA HA HA
Jan 14 22:02:49 <mod6>	i love zerowing
Jan 14 22:07:10 <Bugpowder>	mpoebot seems to be down
Jan 14 22:08:18 <smickles>	Bugpowder: mine isn't tho
Jan 14 22:08:27 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 14 22:08:32 <Bugpowder>	mp is
Jan 14 22:08:38 <smickles>	mpex was getting attacked, it took mpoebot offline
Jan 14 22:08:44 <Bugpowder>	ah
Jan 14 22:08:53 <smickles>	there's a blog post
Jan 14 22:09:00 <smickles>	i'll find the link if you're interested
Jan 14 22:09:06 <Bugpowder>	i can find
Jan 14 22:09:33 <smickles>	well, my bot is running, but not well funded
Jan 14 22:12:22 <Bugpowder>	is that you on the C130Ts?
Jan 14 22:12:33 <Bugpowder>	I think you are gonna want a bigger spread
Jan 14 22:12:37 <Bugpowder>	to make money
Jan 14 22:13:08 <smickles>	well, so far i'm doing alright, and this is the test month
Jan 14 22:14:20 <Bugpowder>	easy to make money selling options when the price is stable
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Jan 14 22:45:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 10 @ 0.79 = 7.9 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 00:12:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Jan 15 00:13:36 <pigeons>	so if there is no BFL, where did all the unicorns go?
Jan 15 00:14:35 *	kakobrekla ate em.
Jan 15 00:15:06 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 15 00:15:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (166570 shares, 299.83 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00076942 / 0.0035 (2162936 shares, 1,664.21 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00076942 / 0.0035 (2162936 shares, 1,664.21 BTC)
Jan 15 00:16:06 <kakobrekla>	180 seems to be a trading quite a bit
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Jan 15 00:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	that dishwasha exchange was... interesting.
Jan 15 00:50:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 2 @ 0.01029943 = 0.0206 BTC [-]
Jan 15 00:50:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.06193501 BTC [-]
Jan 15 00:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.00800002 BTC [-]
Jan 15 00:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.09478131 BTC [-]
Jan 15 00:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1 @ 0.00862926 BTC [-]
Jan 15 00:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.13193935 BTC [-]
Jan 15 00:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064735 = 3.2368 BTC [-]
Jan 15 00:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14774 @ 0.00064736 = 9.5641 BTC [+]
Jan 15 00:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33107 @ 0.00065772 = 21.7751 BTC [+]
Jan 15 00:50:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00065998 = 16.4995 BTC [+]
Jan 15 00:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00065999 = 2.178 BTC [+]
Jan 15 00:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68819 @ 0.00066 = 45.4205 BTC [+]
Jan 15 00:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 500 @ 0.70576158 = 352.8808 BTC [+]
Jan 15 00:51:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064223 = 5.9727 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 00:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 820 @ 0.29190365 = 239.361 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 00:52:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 777 @ 0.22544062 = 175.1674 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 00:52:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00066 = 7.755 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 00:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 614 @ 0.16607911 = 101.9726 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 00:54:10 <Supa>	fuck yourself...
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Jan 15 00:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 563 @ 0.11587618 = 65.2383 BTC [+]
Jan 15 01:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	so what's new
Jan 15 01:01:27 <Supa>	rectal server penetration
Jan 15 01:01:28 <Supa>	:D
Jan 15 01:03:43 *	Received a CTCP PING 100986499 from Supa (to #bitcoin-assets)
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Jan 15 01:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00464142 = 5.8018 BTC [+]
Jan 15 01:05:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00462545 = 2.3127 BTC [-]
Jan 15 01:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1377 @ 0.00457353 = 6.2978 BTC [-]
Jan 15 01:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1303 @ 0.00456874 = 5.9531 BTC [-]
Jan 15 01:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 320 @ 0.0045637 = 1.4604 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 01:05:36 *	Supa is now known as ForTheLulz
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Jan 15 01:10:53 <Graet>	supa forgot to take the meds again?
Jan 15 01:11:07 <Supa>	forgot to sleep :/
Jan 15 01:12:51 <pigeons>	too much crank
Jan 15 01:12:56 <Supa>	yep
Jan 15 01:13:03 <Supa>	crazy weekend
Jan 15 01:13:15 <Supa>	your mom was there pigeons
Jan 15 01:14:02 <pigeons>	:(
Jan 15 01:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	there should be a bet : does bfl deliver before pirate pays ?
Jan 15 01:17:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00460592 = 8.2907 BTC [+]
Jan 15 01:17:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 554 @ 0.00464529 = 2.5735 BTC [+]
Jan 15 01:21:20 <Supa>	10:17pm] <@Reiuji> Hello xIsalty,
Jan 15 01:21:20 <Supa>	[10:17pm] <@Reiuji> You currently owe 660520.480694 BTC on your loan, including overdue
Jan 15 01:21:20 <Supa>	[10:17pm] <@Reiuji> penalties. My special discount offer of paying 10 BTC total to
Jan 15 01:21:20 <Supa>	[10:17pm] <@Reiuji> finalise the entire loan is still valid.
Jan 15 01:21:20 <Supa>	[10:18pm] <@Reiuji> 24 hour weighted average price for amount owed:
Jan 15 01:21:20 <Supa>	[10:18pm] <@Reiuji> 9306733.57 USD | 9029314.97 AUD
Jan 15 01:21:23 <Supa>	rofl!
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Jan 15 01:21:53 <Supa>	can someone kline this Hasimir guy
Jan 15 01:22:01 <Supa>	he's fuckin gaying up everything
Jan 15 01:22:04 <Supa>	stupid cunt hair
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Jan 15 01:37:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00065999 = 19.7997 BTC [-]
Jan 15 01:37:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00066 = 2.112 BTC [+]
Jan 15 01:41:50 <pigeons>	whose buying supa debt?
Jan 15 01:42:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 1.2225 BTC
Jan 15 01:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1535 @ 0.00464529 = 7.1305 BTC [+]
Jan 15 01:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 373 @ 0.0046499 = 1.7344 BTC [+]
Jan 15 01:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1159 @ 0.00459038 = 5.3203 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 02:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4425 @ 0.0046176 = 20.4329 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 02:17:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5200 @ 0.0046176 = 24.0115 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 02:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.0046176 = 6.2338 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 02:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 477 @ 0.0046499 = 2.218 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00466753 = 9.3351 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 02:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.00467388 = 0.2103 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1255 @ 0.00467388 = 5.8657 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00467449 = 9.349 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3061 @ 0.0046745 = 14.3086 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3557 @ 0.00467895 = 16.643 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1547 @ 0.00469829 = 7.2683 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00470319 = 2.5868 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 312 @ 0.00470361 = 1.4675 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 813 @ 0.00470385 = 3.8242 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2745 @ 0.00470449 = 12.9138 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2660 @ 0.00470703 = 12.5207 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2111 @ 0.00471062 = 9.9441 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1654 @ 0.00471497 = 7.7986 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00471641 = 10.8477 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1717 @ 0.00472014 = 8.1045 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 763 @ 0.00473096 = 3.6097 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:32:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00473389 = 7.3375 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:32:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4094 @ 0.00473804 = 19.3975 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00473838 = 14.2151 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3650 @ 0.00474089 = 17.3042 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8950 @ 0.00474097 = 42.4317 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1711 @ 0.00474221 = 8.1139 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 15 02:32:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00449034 / 0.00461379 / 0.00474221 (341542 shares, 1,575.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00449 / 0.00467079 / 0.0048 (2142353 shares, 10,006.48 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00356887 / 0.0048 (12139615 shares, 43,324.81 BTC)
Jan 15 02:32:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 978 @ 0.00467269 = 4.5699 BTC [-]
Jan 15 02:36:51 <mod6>	s.dice bonanza
Jan 15 02:38:06 <mod6>	crap, i hate it when my ssh sessions timeout
Jan 15 02:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	Bridge is such a sensational game that I wouldn't mind being in jail if I had three cellmates who were decent players and who were willing to keep the game going twenty-four hours a day.
Jan 15 02:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	this is true.
Jan 15 02:38:36 <mircea_popescu>	bridge is the prison killer.
Jan 15 02:38:51 <mod6>	well, not thats its a bad thing, but it happens enough to get annoying on this aws shit where im in and out all the time.
Jan 15 02:39:25 <mod6>	haha, never played. i like spades, poker and cribbage.
Jan 15 02:39:38 <azx>	lol
Jan 15 02:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you should try it when you're old.
Jan 15 02:40:05 <azx>	24/7 same game? LOL, this will become a real hell fast
Jan 15 02:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	not with bridge.
Jan 15 02:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	(the quote was from warren buffett btw)
Jan 15 02:40:24 <mod6>	yeah, i thought the minimum age was like 200
Jan 15 02:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 the minimum age for men is 50. the maximum age for women is 32.
Jan 15 02:40:58 <mod6>	haha
Jan 15 02:41:00 <mod6>	werd
Jan 15 02:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	after that they get too good at it.
Jan 15 02:41:19 <mod6>	too much table talk
Jan 15 02:41:24 <mod6>	with out the table talk
Jan 15 02:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 15 02:42:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1848 @ 0.00467269 = 8.6351 BTC [-]
Jan 15 02:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00472961 = 9.4592 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00472962 = 3.0743 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.22917485 = 229.1749 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	"Henderson Brothers, Inc., the specialist in our shares, is the oldest continuing specialist firm on the Exchange; its progenitor, William Thomas Henderson, bought his seat for $500 on September 8, 1861."
Jan 15 02:47:32 <mircea_popescu>	o fuck yeah. 500 dollars IN 1861!
Jan 15 02:47:46 <mircea_popescu>	next time anyone whines about "500 dollars" im showing them this.
Jan 15 02:48:00 <mod6>	haha. well, that'd be like 50000 now.
Jan 15 02:48:16 <mod6>	with 100% devaluation
Jan 15 02:48:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00467269 = 3.2709 BTC [-]
Jan 15 02:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	actually seats sell for > 1mn these days
Jan 15 02:50:07 <mod6>	aah
Jan 15 02:52:52 <azx>	mod6: Total inflation from January 1914 to January 2012 is 2,166.65%
Jan 15 02:53:05 <mod6>	lol yikes
Jan 15 02:53:16 <azx>	you have to search for something that has 1860 data too
Jan 15 02:55:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1901 @ 0.00472962 = 8.991 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 689 @ 0.00474221 = 3.2674 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:55:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00474275 = 2.3714 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:55:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2404 @ 0.00474803 = 11.4143 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1856 @ 0.00475 = 8.816 BTC [+]
Jan 15 02:55:28 <azx>	http://inflationdata.com enjoy
Jan 15 02:55:34 <mod6>	nice!
Jan 15 02:55:35 *	mod6 looks
Jan 15 02:57:09 <azx>	in last 12 years USD has lost 33%!
Jan 15 02:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	i think that's understated.
Jan 15 02:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	(20.16 ** 1/98)
Jan 15 02:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (20.16 ** 1/98)
Jan 15 02:57:27 <gribble>	0.205714285714
Jan 15 02:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	ugh
Jan 15 02:57:47 <azx>	1990-2012 76,14%!
Jan 15 02:59:12 <azx>	look at the inflation for your lifetime ... ouch
Jan 15 02:59:51 <mod6>	haha, you gotta go back to 1980 for me
Jan 15 02:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.0313 ** 98
Jan 15 02:59:57 <gribble>	20.4989558215
Jan 15 03:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	ok, listen, that number is bs.
Jan 15 03:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	no way inflation averaged 3% a year.
Jan 15 03:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	century inflation is more in the 100k to 1mn% range
Jan 15 03:03:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1124 @ 0.00467269 = 5.2521 BTC [-]
Jan 15 03:03:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 576 @ 0.00467146 = 2.6908 BTC [-]
Jan 15 03:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3450 @ 0.00475 = 16.3875 BTC [+]
Jan 15 03:14:08 <azx>	go argue with that site :) I do not run it
Jan 15 03:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3724 @ 0.00467146 = 17.3965 BTC [-]
Jan 15 03:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 526 @ 0.00464864 = 2.4452 BTC [-]
Jan 15 03:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2572 @ 0.00472961 = 12.1646 BTC [+]
Jan 15 03:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 428 @ 0.00472961 = 2.0243 BTC [+]
Jan 15 03:33:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2022 @ 0.00474624 = 9.5969 BTC [+]
Jan 15 03:37:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 883 @ 0.00464865 = 4.1048 BTC [-]
Jan 15 03:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 117 @ 0.00464865 = 0.5439 BTC [-]
Jan 15 03:45:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1683 @ 0.00464864 = 7.8237 BTC [-]
Jan 15 03:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00474582 = 5.695 BTC [+]
Jan 15 03:55:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2650 @ 0.00474623 = 12.5775 BTC [+]
Jan 15 03:57:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1578 @ 0.00464864 = 7.3356 BTC [-]
Jan 15 03:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 422 @ 0.00464694 = 1.961 BTC [-]
Jan 15 03:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/about-trading-and-value/
Jan 15 04:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00474623 = 2.8477 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 04:15:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 310 @ 0.00468133 = 1.4512 BTC [-]
Jan 15 04:15:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 720 @ 0.00464865 = 3.347 BTC [-]
Jan 15 04:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.0046577 = 4.8906 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 04:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00472514 = 11.8129 BTC [+]
Jan 15 04:51:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 62 @ 0.00464694 = 0.2881 BTC [-]
Jan 15 04:51:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 488 @ 0.00462601 = 2.2575 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 05:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1475 @ 0.0018 = 2.655 BTC [-]
Jan 15 05:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00473225 = 6.1519 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:01:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 694 @ 0.00473625 = 3.287 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:01:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0097 = 0.0194 BTC [-]
Jan 15 05:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.00462602 = 16.6537 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 05:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00469986 = 2.3499 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 306 @ 0.00473625 = 1.4493 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:11:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 964 @ 0.00473626 = 4.5658 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1678 @ 0.00474733 = 7.966 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6852 @ 0.00475 = 32.547 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:12:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00475 = 9.2625 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 05:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00462602 = 6.4764 BTC [-]
Jan 15 05:17:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00462601 = 0.2313 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 05:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	You've got 3
Jan 15 05:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	new messages from girls.
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Jan 15 05:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	(c) 2013. RealDiatingSystem.
Jan 15 05:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00470296 = 7.2896 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:39:41 <Schadenfreude>	Is it a dieting system or a dating system?
Jan 15 05:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	right ?
Jan 15 05:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it must be the result of a merger.
Jan 15 05:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	a real diating system, does both.
Jan 15 05:53:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00464849 = 7.9024 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 05:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00065999 = 0.99 BTC [-]
Jan 15 05:59:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 594 @ 0.00470296 = 2.7936 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1606 @ 0.00475 = 7.6285 BTC [+]
Jan 15 05:59:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0018 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:02:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00475 = 12.35 BTC [+]
Jan 15 06:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00470168 = 5.642 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:14:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 504 @ 0.00475 = 2.394 BTC [+]
Jan 15 06:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3596 @ 0.00475035 = 17.0823 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 06:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00474024 = 9.7175 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1685 @ 0.00475035 = 8.0043 BTC [+]
Jan 15 06:25:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00470168 = 5.8771 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:25:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00469426 = 11.5009 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00466466 = 3.2653 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:26:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 15 @ 0.79 = 11.85 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:27:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00465654 = 9.3131 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00464849 = 1.1621 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:28:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1987 @ 0.00462601 = 9.1919 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:30:44 <Schadenfreude>	Hooray, my order got filled on coinbr
Jan 15 06:33:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.00465654 = 14.9009 BTC [+]
Jan 15 06:36:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 586 @ 0.00465654 = 2.7287 BTC [+]
Jan 15 06:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 349 @ 0.00465654 = 1.6251 BTC [+]
Jan 15 06:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 651 @ 0.00472886 = 3.0785 BTC [+]
Jan 15 06:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1775 @ 0.00462601 = 8.2112 BTC [-]
Jan 15 06:58:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1425 @ 0.00462128 = 6.5853 BTC [-]
Jan 15 07:05:20 <jurov>	pirate uses coinbr, who wudda say :P
Jan 15 07:07:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00462803 = 2.314 BTC [+]
Jan 15 07:09:52 <Schadenfreude>	I wish, then I'd spend more than 3 btc :P
Jan 15 07:12:00 <Schadenfreude>	might invest more if mpex stocks don't implode or somebody hacks coinbr into oblivion by next month
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Jan 15 07:14:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 07:16:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1825 @ 0.00462128 = 8.4338 BTC [-]
Jan 15 07:17:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 10 @ 0.8399 = 8.399 BTC [+]
Jan 15 07:18:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.8399 = 1.6798 BTC [+]
Jan 15 07:19:11 <Schadenfreude>	Bad idea since they're bought back at about 0.7 BTC value
Jan 15 07:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1475 @ 0.00461846 = 6.8122 BTC [-]
Jan 15 07:19:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 842 @ 0.00462803 = 3.8968 BTC [+]
Jan 15 07:19:38 <Schadenfreude>	So if neotrix buys them back within 10~ weeks, those people are screwed
Jan 15 07:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1407 @ 0.00462803 = 6.5116 BTC [+]
Jan 15 07:23:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00471664 = 10.3766 BTC [+]
Jan 15 07:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00475035 = 1.9001 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 07:32:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2918 @ 0.00475035 = 13.8615 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 07:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2701 @ 0.00475035 = 12.8307 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 07:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 422 @ 0.00475112 = 2.005 BTC [+]
Jan 15 07:35:12 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 15 07:35:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.20001, Best ask: 14.24998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 14.20001, 24 hour volume: 46208.66766734, 24 hour low: 13.99178, 24 hour high: 14.47899, 24 hour vwap: 14.20296
Jan 15 07:35:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 07:37:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Jan 15 07:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00475 = 3.0875 BTC [-]
Jan 15 07:38:20 <Bugpowder>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 15 07:38:20 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 15 07:38:25 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 15 07:38:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00449034 / 0.00463912 / 0.00475112 (403600 shares, 1,872.35 BTC), 7D: 0.00449 / 0.00467182 / 0.0048 (2204987 shares, 10,301.32 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00358016 / 0.0048 (12255882 shares, 43,878.11 BTC)
Jan 15 07:38:38 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 15 07:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (18545 shares, 33.38 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00077036 / 0.0035 (2164911 shares, 1,667.76 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00077036 / 0.0035 (2164911 shares, 1,667.76 BTC)
Jan 15 07:39:13 <azx>	Bugpowder: can you /msg assbot ?
Jan 15 07:39:41 <EskimoBob>	good idea
Jan 15 07:40:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.007 = 0.021 BTC [+]
Jan 15 07:41:12 <Bugpowder>	doesn't everyone want to know the latest :-P
Jan 15 07:43:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3450 @ 0.00475 = 16.3875 BTC [-]
Jan 15 07:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 646 @ 0.00471499 = 3.0459 BTC [-]
Jan 15 07:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 554 @ 0.0046176 = 2.5582 BTC [-]
Jan 15 07:47:58 <EskimoBob>	not at all
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Jan 15 08:02:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.004749 = 1.1873 BTC [+]
Jan 15 08:02:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3700 @ 0.00475 = 17.575 BTC [+]
Jan 15 08:04:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26550 @ 0.00065957 = 17.5116 BTC [-]
Jan 15 08:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00065459 = 1.4074 BTC [-]
Jan 15 08:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1118 @ 0.00474416 = 5.304 BTC [-]
Jan 15 08:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2132 @ 0.00475 = 10.127 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 08:31:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 10 @ 0.79 = 7.9 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 08:38:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.0047083 = 10.8291 BTC [-]
Jan 15 08:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1355 @ 0.00475 = 6.4363 BTC [+]
Jan 15 08:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2619 @ 0.00475 = 12.4403 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 08:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00468567 = 4.6857 BTC [-]
Jan 15 08:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1219 @ 0.00462626 = 5.6394 BTC [-]
Jan 15 09:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00471633 = 14.149 BTC [+]
Jan 15 09:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1281 @ 0.00462626 = 5.9262 BTC [-]
Jan 15 09:07:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 219 @ 0.00462 = 1.0118 BTC [-]
Jan 15 09:13:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1640 @ 0.00468138 = 7.6775 BTC [+]
Jan 15 09:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00471633 = 8.0178 BTC [+]
Jan 15 09:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17680 @ 0.00065999 = 11.6686 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 09:30:52 <Bugpowder>	S.BBET bids are up to .0015
Jan 15 09:30:54 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 15 09:31:03 <Bugpowder>	I wonder if anyone will bite
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Jan 15 09:33:08 <Korbman>	!ticker m S.BBET
Jan 15 09:33:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (18545 shares, 33.38 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00077036 / 0.0035 (2164911 shares, 1,667.76 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00077036 / 0.0035 (2164911 shares, 1,667.76 BTC)
Jan 15 09:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.48 = 8.64 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 09:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2260 @ 0.00469924 = 10.6203 BTC [-]
Jan 15 09:42:10 <EskimoBob>	rrrr.... converting BTC to EUR is real PITA
Jan 15 09:42:26 <jcpham>	so let's say I wanted to buy a few thousand shares of S.BBET
Jan 15 09:42:30 <jcpham>	where would i start
Jan 15 09:43:29 <Schadenfreude>	If you don't want to spend more than 100BTC on the venture I'd recommend the mpex broker
Jan 15 09:43:31 <Schadenfreude>	https://coinbr.com/ref?c=W3XWfHQCws
Jan 15 09:44:00 <Bugpowder>	type this into your terminal ./mpex.py 'BUY|S.BBET|21142|175000'
Jan 15 09:44:33 <jcpham>	http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html
Jan 15 09:46:08 <Korbman>	Ha, I haven't seen that infographic in ages
Jan 15 09:46:09 <Diablo-D3>	>100BTC
Jan 15 09:46:14 <Diablo-D3>	not enough for a pizza
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Jan 15 09:46:56 <jcpham>	you need at least 10k bitcoin for pizza iirc
Jan 15 09:47:47 <Schadenfreude>	$140k? but I like my pizza without gold and diamonds
Jan 15 09:51:57 <EskimoBob>	"This is roughly 3 times the entire world economy." :)
Jan 15 09:52:16 <EskimoBob>	let the printing commence and fix that problem at once
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Jan 15 09:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00462633 = 3.0071 BTC [-]
Jan 15 09:59:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00462633 = 9.0213 BTC [-]
Jan 15 09:59:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.00463293 = 0.1853 BTC [+]
Jan 15 10:00:18 <jcpham>	http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/ripple-credit-system-could-help-or-harm-bitcoin
Jan 15 10:01:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
Jan 15 10:03:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 393 @ 0.0046823 = 1.8401 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 10:05:30 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: interesting but friends and money lending....
Jan 15 10:05:48 <jcpham>	i'm so on the fence with ripple
Jan 15 10:06:07 <jcpham>	no comment. i lose all visionary-ness on ripple
Jan 15 10:06:23 <EskimoBob>	"on the fence" ?
Jan 15 10:06:35 <jcpham>	unsure if good or bad
Jan 15 10:06:58 <EskimoBob>	I like the name "Ripple"
Jan 15 10:07:20 <EskimoBob>	those ripples, when one defaults, will be interesting
Jan 15 10:07:27 <jcpham>	i agree
Jan 15 10:07:27 <EskimoBob>	forget interesting
Jan 15 10:07:37 <EskimoBob>	"lots of drama"
Jan 15 10:07:37 <jcpham>	paralyzing
Jan 15 10:07:41 <jcpham>	is a better term
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Jan 15 10:14:59 <kakobrekla>	assbot, bitbet and the rest of the world will return when the hdd od the server is changed, thanks for your patience
Jan 15 10:15:55 <EskimoBob>	if 30% of divorces in UK are actually caused by facebook use, imagine how much shit Ripple "social network" can cause :) LOL!
Jan 15 10:16:38 <EskimoBob>	obviously, it has to get popular first
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Jan 15 10:33:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
Jan 15 10:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 331 @ 0.0046339 = 1.5338 BTC [-]
Jan 15 10:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00466725 = 2.3336 BTC [+]
Jan 15 10:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2002 @ 0.00467104 = 9.3514 BTC [+]
Jan 15 10:42:27 <thestrin1puller>	kakobrekla: assbot is down?
Jan 15 10:42:47 <kakobrekla>	!ticker not anymore
Jan 15 10:42:47 <assbot>	Have you got any tobacco?
Jan 15 10:43:57 <thestrin1puller>	i have wacky tobaccy
Jan 15 10:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 181 @ 0.00462 = 0.8362 BTC [-]
Jan 15 10:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00461845 = 12.008 BTC [-]
Jan 15 10:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 119 @ 0.0046176 = 0.5495 BTC [-]
Jan 15 10:47:41 <azx>	"kakobrekla | assbot, bitbet and the rest of the world will return when the hdd od the server is changed, thanks for"
Jan 15 10:48:19 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Jan 15 10:48:24 <kakobrekla>	what is the issue?
Jan 15 10:49:17 <jurov>	azx, kako runs teh matrix
Jan 15 10:52:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 34 @ 0.48 = 16.32 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 10:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.48 = 4.32 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00461761 = 2.7706 BTC [+]
Jan 15 11:13:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00461761 = 1.847 BTC [+]
Jan 15 11:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 702 @ 0.0046176 = 3.2416 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1777 @ 0.00461332 = 8.1979 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:13:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3400 @ 0.00461115 = 15.6779 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:13:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 721 @ 0.00460415 = 3.3196 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:20:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0047 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:20:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0047 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:22:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0046 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:23:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.48 = 4.32 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00463612 = 4.6361 BTC [+]
Jan 15 11:26:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00463611 = 10.1994 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2307 @ 0.00460415 = 10.6218 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:27:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 24 @ 0.0046 = 0.1104 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:27:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 350 @ 0.0044 = 1.54 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:28:36 <Schadenfreude>	Free fall, free fall, everybody panic sell! :P
Jan 15 11:34:36 <Bugpowder>	meh
Jan 15 11:34:48 <Bugpowder>	it hit .00449 before
Jan 15 11:35:02 <Bugpowder>	I'll pick more up down there
Jan 15 11:35:20 <Bugpowder>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.DICE
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Jan 15 11:38:51 <thestrin1puller>	people are dumping profits and closing shortd
Jan 15 11:38:53 <thestrin1puller>	shorts
Jan 15 11:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2613 @ 0.00464951 = 12.1492 BTC [+]
Jan 15 11:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 337 @ 0.00460415 = 1.5516 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:41:03 <Schadenfreude>	I'll dump some at 0.00472+, daytrading is kinda fun
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Jan 15 11:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 298 @ 0.00467104 = 1.392 BTC [+]
Jan 15 11:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 88 @ 0.0046823 = 0.412 BTC [+]
Jan 15 11:49:29 <Korbman>	Daytrading has a hell of a rush
Jan 15 11:52:22 <Schadenfreude>	Explains why bankers use so much cocaine
Jan 15 11:54:38 <kakobrekla>	i buy cocaine for my bots.
Jan 15 11:55:17 <kakobrekla>	here assbot, you been up for weeks, have a line.
Jan 15 11:56:02 <Schadenfreude>	you'd be better off with modafinil for the staying awake part
Jan 15 11:57:05 <kakobrekla>	but does that make them feel better too?
Jan 15 11:57:31 <Korbman>	I wish I had that stuff when I worked both a night shift and day shift at two different jobs in college
Jan 15 11:57:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 706 @ 0.00460415 = 3.2505 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 94 @ 0.00459983 = 0.4324 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:58:11 <Korbman>	there's only so much coffee and energy drinks you can consume before tiredness still takes over
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Jan 15 11:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 151 @ 0.48 = 72.48 BTC [-]
Jan 15 11:59:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 19 @ 0.0046823 = 0.089 BTC [+]
Jan 15 11:59:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00471633 = 10.1401 BTC [+]
Jan 15 11:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2552 @ 0.00472657 = 12.0622 BTC [+]
Jan 15 11:59:41 <Schadenfreude>	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erd%C5%91s#Personality
Jan 15 12:00:18 <Schadenfreude>	Amphetamines are the choice for being focused, motivated and awake longer
Jan 15 12:00:24 <kakobrekla>	Korbman caffeine powder.
Jan 15 12:00:51 <Schadenfreude>	It's meh, caffeine tends to produce a nasty tolerance pretty fast
Jan 15 12:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2406 @ 0.00459983 = 11.0672 BTC [-]
Jan 15 12:01:04 <Korbman>	True, but that shit is dangerous if you mismeasure it
Jan 15 12:01:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 294 @ 0.00459927 = 1.3522 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 12:01:12 <kakobrekla>	yep
Jan 15 12:01:26 <kakobrekla>	i used it a few years back for a while
Jan 15 12:01:42 <kakobrekla>	72hrs uptime was ez
Jan 15 12:01:47 <kakobrekla>	;>
Jan 15 12:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2036 @ 0.00472657 = 9.6233 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 164 @ 0.00473843 = 0.7771 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:05:01 <Schadenfreude>	I hate the fact, that I have to go through caffeine withdrawals after a major exam
Jan 15 12:05:16 <kakobrekla>	dont start to get off it
Jan 15 12:05:22 <kakobrekla>	fixed.
Jan 15 12:06:00 <Korbman>	hahaha
Jan 15 12:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 436 @ 0.00473843 = 2.066 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 614 @ 0.00474899 = 2.9159 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 36 @ 0.00474899 = 0.171 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:10:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 219 @ 0.004749 = 1.04 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:10:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1849 @ 0.00475 = 8.7828 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 181 @ 0.004749 = 0.8596 BTC [-]
Jan 15 12:23:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2019 @ 0.00475 = 9.5903 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:23:13 <Bugpowder>	modafinil works well
Jan 15 12:23:46 <Bugpowder>	not as 'fun' but effective for focus
Jan 15 12:23:56 <Bugpowder>	when you absolutely need to focus for 12 hours.
Jan 15 12:26:04 <Schadenfreude>	I only use caffeine and piracetam if I must learn hard
Jan 15 12:28:03 <Schadenfreude>	Poppy tea orso after a passed exam is a different matter. Thank god for greyzone laws on dried poppies here
Jan 15 12:28:54 <Korbman>	"The tea is consumed for its narcotic, analgesic, and anti-diarrheal effects"
Jan 15 12:29:30 <Schadenfreude>	Don't forget the euphoric and relaxing properties
Jan 15 12:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1232 @ 0.00469621 = 5.7857 BTC [-]
Jan 15 12:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00469621 = 1.4089 BTC [-]
Jan 15 12:44:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
Jan 15 12:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00472154 = 9.4431 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:47:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 658 @ 0.00473 = 3.1123 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 358 @ 0.00473 = 1.6933 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1747 @ 0.0047419 = 8.2841 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:53:07 <thestrin1puller>	trust Bugpowder he is a neurosurgeon
Jan 15 12:53:38 <EskimoBob>	Schadenfreude: coffee drinkers go through caffeine withdrawal ever morning actually :) This "now I am wake" feeling is actually how they used to feel normally, before they got addicted
Jan 15 12:54:18 <kakobrekla>	yeah you get hooked on it in about 2 weeks
Jan 15 12:54:23 <kakobrekla>	and hooked off in the same period
Jan 15 12:54:37 <kakobrekla>	it makes more sense to go on and off it
Jan 15 12:55:03 <EskimoBob>	probably, if you really have to for some reason
Jan 15 12:55:22 <thestrin1puller>	kakobrekla: sounds like "moderation"
Jan 15 12:55:46 <kakobrekla>	thestrin1puller, everything in moderation, even moderation
Jan 15 12:55:59 <Schadenfreude>	Yea, but I meant the kind with terrible headaches and feeling tired for a couple of days, since I don't drink coffee if I don't have to
Jan 15 12:56:53 *	mod6 drinks another mtdew
Jan 15 12:57:36 <Schadenfreude>	american.jpg
Jan 15 12:57:41 <EskimoBob>	never had those unless getting really pissed (drunk)
Jan 15 12:58:15 <EskimoBob>	but this is still few hours only and not days
Jan 15 12:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1495 @ 0.0047419 = 7.0891 BTC [+]
Jan 15 12:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3018 @ 0.00469621 = 14.1732 BTC [-]
Jan 15 12:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2932 @ 0.0046825 = 13.7291 BTC [-]
Jan 15 12:58:36 <EskimoBob>	mm.. more like several hours
Jan 15 13:00:57 <jcpham>	i go through withdrawals fairly regularly
Jan 15 13:01:16 <EskimoBob>	lol, this Obama character is funny. Waving his bony finger and: ...bu, bu, but we wasted all the money and more, now lets print some new dollars so we can pay the bills...
Jan 15 13:01:20 <jcpham>	caffeine and nicotine both
Jan 15 13:01:33 <jcpham>	i binge on both of those and then will go back to cold turkey
Jan 15 13:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	ahh, how's the drama ?
Jan 15 13:02:18 <Schadenfreude>	Same with nicotine, it's just that I'm exposed to caffeine for about 3 weeks on occasion so it's a tad harder
Jan 15 13:02:23 <jcpham>	i used to be seriously dependent on both fentanyl and oxycodone a few years back
Jan 15 13:02:26 <EskimoBob>	nicotine? dropped that shit after 10 y and never looked back
Jan 15 13:02:44 <jcpham>	i smoke when i drink
Jan 15 13:02:53 <jcpham>	so i'll smoke like a pack or two in a night
Jan 15 13:03:01 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: this is the tricky part after you quit
Jan 15 13:03:11 <jcpham>	and then days of feeling like crap
Jan 15 13:03:15 <EskimoBob>	i was same
Jan 15 13:03:27 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc gsdpt
Jan 15 13:03:29 <assbot>	[BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.0044 / 0.0044 / 0.007 (381 shares, 1.7 BTC),  7D: 0.0042 / 0.01 / 0.0075 (655 shares, 3.6 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.01 / 0.0075 (655 shares, 3.6 BTC)
Jan 15 13:03:31 <jcpham>	i do that pretty regularly, the nicotine withdrawal feeling
Jan 15 13:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	jesus this is like tongue twister exchange
Jan 15 13:03:45 <mod6>	haha
Jan 15 13:03:51 <jcpham>	fentanyl is worse than heroin i hear
Jan 15 13:03:52 <EskimoBob>	I think cocaine is better :)
Jan 15 13:04:00 <jcpham>	to withdraw from
Jan 15 13:04:14 <jcpham>	fentanyl was like 2 full weeks of the trainspotting scene
Jan 15 13:04:25 <jcpham>	except i had to work
Jan 15 13:04:30 <EskimoBob>	pfff...
Jan 15 13:04:40 <EskimoBob>	was it fun?
Jan 15 13:04:41 <mod6>	well, fentanyl is like 100x
Jan 15 13:04:46 <jcpham>	i'm pretty sure i flew to Des Moines to install some servers during my narcotics detox
Jan 15 13:04:49 <jcpham>	shrug
Jan 15 13:05:04 <EskimoBob>	lol
Jan 15 13:05:06 <jcpham>	the pain was exquisite
Jan 15 13:05:10 <jcpham>	i'll say that
Jan 15 13:05:17 <Schadenfreude>	Poppy pods are great to enjoy, but awful if you get addicted to them
Jan 15 13:05:26 <EskimoBob>	why even fuck around with something like that?
Jan 15 13:05:37 <jcpham>	prescription
Jan 15 13:05:45 <jcpham>	50 micrograms every 48 hours
Jan 15 13:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude, Bugpowder did you two see my latest production ?
Jan 15 13:06:30 <EskimoBob>	fuck off, you  little narcissistic fuck, we are having good time here
Jan 15 13:06:58 <jcpham>	damn mircea_popescu you make friends
Jan 15 13:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1818 @ 0.0046825 = 8.5128 BTC [-]
Jan 15 13:07:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 15 13:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 525 @ 0.00466414 = 2.4487 BTC [-]
Jan 15 13:07:31 <jcpham>	look i can re-arrange it
Jan 15 13:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	i have this advantage that i get high on my own neurotransmitters, as my sister put it. of course everyone wants to be friends with me.
Jan 15 13:07:39 <jcpham>	damn you, mircea_popescu, make friends
Jan 15 13:07:55 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu  needs constant attention so he clues himself to every new face here.
Jan 15 13:08:04 <jcpham>	i'm new here
Jan 15 13:08:11 <jcpham>	where do i throw my money?
Jan 15 13:08:14 <jcpham>	which pile
Jan 15 13:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2226 @ 0.00475 = 10.5735 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 174 @ 0.00475094 = 0.8267 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:08:29 <kakobrekla>	assbot just told you.
Jan 15 13:08:47 <jcpham>	jeez
Jan 15 13:09:06 <EskimoBob>	do not believe that
Jan 15 13:09:21 <Bugpowder>	blogpost on buffer?
Jan 15 13:09:26 <kakobrekla>	yeah, put it on glbse rather
Jan 15 13:09:36 <mod6>	oh i remember them
Jan 15 13:09:39 <EskimoBob>	you guys can not get over it LOL
Jan 15 13:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	anyone remember namworld's link for bvps statement ?
Jan 15 13:10:09 <EskimoBob>	it's gone! and everyone got their coin back. better than expected.
Jan 15 13:10:13 <mod6>	i've got it somewhere...
Jan 15 13:10:30 <Bugpowder>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFvQWJnZnRZQWJfbk1mNHYtVzhPR0E#gid=0
Jan 15 13:10:33 <mircea_popescu>	danke
Jan 15 13:10:48 <Bugpowder>	jcpham  There are a variety of good options
Jan 15 13:10:50 <kakobrekla>	waiiiiit rewind
Jan 15 13:10:53 <kakobrekla>	" better than expected."
Jan 15 13:10:55 <kakobrekla>	srsly??
Jan 15 13:11:00 <EskimoBob>	mod6: are you his new lapdog? He tells you run and fetch and you do it?
Jan 15 13:11:02 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Jan 15 13:11:02 <kakobrekla>	GLBSE was better than expected?
Jan 15 13:11:17 <kakobrekla>	well i must say i admire your humble expectations.
Jan 15 13:11:35 <EskimoBob>	the result
Jan 15 13:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	who on my ignore are we talking to ?
Jan 15 13:11:41 <EskimoBob>	did you even read?
Jan 15 13:11:45 <kakobrekla>	19:10.07 ( EskimoBob ) it's gone! and everyone got their coin back. better than expected.
Jan 15 13:11:55 <Bugpowder>	jcpham, Hard to say which security will do the best in the coming months, depends on the revenue growth.  So just buy a little of S.MPOE, S.BVPS, S.DICE and S.BBET
Jan 15 13:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Jan 15 13:11:59 <mod6>	EskimoBob: just thought i had it handy. :3
Jan 15 13:12:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00466414 = 10.4943 BTC [-]
Jan 15 13:12:08 <Bugpowder>	some will go up, some might go down
Jan 15 13:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder : i envisage funds won't be far off yet.
Jan 15 13:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	actual investment decisions to be pondered nao.
Jan 15 13:12:39 <Bugpowder>	Well, I'm basically doing that for my friends
Jan 15 13:12:44 <Bugpowder>	right now
Jan 15 13:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	no but i meant people who know what they're doing
Jan 15 13:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Jan 15 13:13:24 <Bugpowder>	well, people that actually set it up more official than a google doc
Jan 15 13:13:32 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: are you telling me that this result was not better than expected?
Jan 15 13:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	i kid, i kid
Jan 15 13:14:03 <kakobrekla>	EskimoBob wtf were you doing on glbse if that outcome came over your expectations'
Jan 15 13:14:10 <Bugpowder>	Let me dry my tears with all these extra bitcoins I made this month
Jan 15 13:14:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 15 13:14:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla he was talking. it worked a lot better.
Jan 15 13:14:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.459 = 0.918 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:14:55 <EskimoBob>	no, my retarded  friend. Let me translate it to you: "it was good we got our money back" after it was closed
Jan 15 13:15:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.46 = 2.3 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:15:19 *	iz_ is now known as iz
Jan 15 13:15:21 <kakobrekla>	so now we need eskimobob english to english translator?
Jan 15 13:15:31 <Bugpowder>	well, that went ok for me, although it would have been nice if the asset prices hadn't crashed as people were racing to the exits.
Jan 15 13:15:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.476 = 0.952 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:15:40 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: no, only you need that
Jan 15 13:15:50 <kakobrekla>	apparently
Jan 15 13:16:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.22458623 = 224.5862 BTC [-]
Jan 15 13:16:17 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: yeah, the whole thing was one cluster fuck
Jan 15 13:16:34 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: use /ignore
Jan 15 13:16:52 <kakobrekla>	ill use +b if it comes to it
Jan 15 13:17:12 <Bugpowder>	shoulda got out as soon as that youtube video of him at the conference got out
Jan 15 13:17:30 <EskimoBob>	the London happening?
Jan 15 13:17:35 <Bugpowder>	"Have you actually talked to a lawyer?  I think maybe you should, very soon!"
Jan 15 13:17:55 <thestrin1puller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 15 13:17:56 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 4 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <smickles> well, so far i'm doing alright, and this is the test month
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Jan 15 13:18:44 <thestrin1puller>	anyone have link to mpoe public finance report for dec
Jan 15 13:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/mpoe-december-2012-statement
Jan 15 13:20:02 <EskimoBob>	damn, I had this scumbag on my ignore
Jan 15 13:20:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6826 @ 0.00475094 = 32.4299 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1224 @ 0.00475101 = 5.8152 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:20:47 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmPD_YSQ--k&t=25m15s
Jan 15 13:20:51 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: this is something that only little weaklings do ;)
Jan 15 13:21:27 <EskimoBob>	b..but bb..but I'll use +b
Jan 15 13:21:30 <kakobrekla>	who said i wasnt?
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Jan 15 13:21:38 <EskimoBob>	no idea
Jan 15 13:21:46 <kakobrekla>	well then stop yappin bout it
Jan 15 13:21:50 <EskimoBob>	hold on, let me check
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Jan 15 13:22:18 <EskimoBob>	nope... I still do not give a shit
Jan 15 13:22:32 <kakobrekla>	you certanly dont give that impression here :)
Jan 15 13:22:40 <thestrin1puller>	lol
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Jan 15 13:25:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.22453777 = 224.5378 BTC [-]
Jan 15 13:26:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Jan 15 13:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	so there's a drop expected in btc or what.
Jan 15 13:27:53 <Namworld>	what do I know...
Jan 15 13:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.16451239 = 164.5124 BTC [-]
Jan 15 13:28:28 <Korbman>	!ticker
Jan 15 13:28:29 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 15 13:28:38 <Korbman>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 15 13:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00449034 / 0.00465126 / 0.00475112 (494978 shares, 2,302.28 BTC), 7D: 0.00449 / 0.00466409 / 0.0048 (2057653 shares, 9,597.09 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.0035971 / 0.0048 (12252072 shares, 44,072.03 BTC)
Jan 15 13:30:45 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 15 13:30:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.48049655 / 0.48900000 (290 shares, 139.34400000 BTC), 7D: 0.47500000 / 0.48166574 / 0.50000000 (1080 shares, 520.19900000 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.45280971 / 0.62000000 (3500 shares, 1584.83399998 BTC)
Jan 15 13:31:45 <Bugpowder>	http://newsroom.fb.com/News/562/Introducing-Graph-Search-Beta
Jan 15 13:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	ow fuck
Jan 15 13:32:22 <mircea_popescu>	ok, now that's a brilliant idea
Jan 15 13:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	if there were a box into which i could go "hey, there was this graph like so and so somewhere"
Jan 15 13:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	and it found it...
Jan 15 13:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	o god.
Jan 15 13:34:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00466415 = 11.4272 BTC [-]
Jan 15 13:34:31 <mod6>	i think they just kinda reinvented the EFnet sex chart
Jan 15 13:36:33 <mod6>	but not ascii heheheh
Jan 15 13:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12047 @ 0.00066 = 7.951 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/jvRBy.jpg
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Jan 15 13:39:18 <Bugpowder>	nsfw?
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Jan 15 13:39:34 <Bugpowder>	I totally agree with this statement "It is, I submit, a lot easier to be a star in BTC than it is in fiat, simply because so many more intelligent people (that aren’t computer programmers!) are involved with the latter as opposed to the former."
Jan 15 13:40:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3350 @ 0.00467416 = 15.6584 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:40:59 *	mircea_popescu gets mad, becomes a brain surgeon out of spite
Jan 15 13:41:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3096 @ 0.00475101 = 14.7091 BTC [+]
Jan 15 13:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg1455855#msg1455855 did you do that ?
Jan 15 13:42:00 <mod6>	haha, "only 23 years old"
Jan 15 13:44:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.22443673 = 224.4367 BTC [-]
Jan 15 13:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.16440693 = 164.4069 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 13:44:48 <Namworld>	who's buying those?
Jan 15 13:46:31 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu  You are wrong about buffet.
Jan 15 13:46:42 <Bugpowder>	He is currently up big on his short put contracts
Jan 15 13:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	Buglouse tt. and on which score ?
Jan 15 13:46:59 <Bugpowder>	Closed some of them for 50% profit already
Jan 15 13:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	wait, this was cca 2009
Jan 15 13:47:19 <mircea_popescu>	he went from 70 to 40 bn nw or some shit
Jan 15 13:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	1/3 of that was index puts
Jan 15 13:47:29 <Bugpowder>	using black-scholes valuation modes
Jan 15 13:47:31 <Bugpowder>	model
Jan 15 13:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	yea, which alone is funny
Jan 15 13:47:52 <Bugpowder>	which, not sure if its really the right model for those long dated things
Jan 15 13:47:54 <mircea_popescu>	seeing what he thinks of price-based evaluation models lol
Jan 15 13:48:12 <Bugpowder>	man
Jan 15 13:48:22 <Namworld>	Anyone got BTCT.co/BitFunder/Cryptostock stuff? Looking for things to short.
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Jan 15 13:51:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [-]
Jan 15 13:52:14 <Bugpowder>	I hope the options buyer keeps buying the puts
Jan 15 13:54:46 <mod6>	im bullish on btc
Jan 15 13:55:20 <mod6>	it seems hard to find a lot of downside at this stage of the game
Jan 15 13:56:11 <Bugpowder>	:(
Jan 15 13:56:27 <Bugpowder>	I made puts but the buyer isn't buying anymore
Jan 15 13:56:35 <Bugpowder>	Is that 2% fee on the total deposit?
Jan 15 13:56:46 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.P140
Jan 15 13:56:48 <assbot>	Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
Jan 15 13:57:16 <mod6>	need the T|N on the end there thestringpuller
Jan 15 13:57:26 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.P140T
Jan 15 13:57:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1D: 0.01029943 / 0.11550245 / 0.11587618 (565 shares, 65.26 BTC), 7D: 0.01029943 / 0.11470805 / 0.12379657 (572 shares, 65.61 BTC), 30D: 0.01029943 / 0.10639863 / 0.168 (3678 shares, 391.33 BTC)
Jan 15 13:57:29 <thestringpuller>	forgot
Jan 15 13:57:35 <mod6>	:]
Jan 15 13:57:59 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (14 - 13.50) / 13.50
Jan 15 13:58:00 <gribble>	0.037037037037
Jan 15 13:58:24 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C140T
Jan 15 13:58:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1D: 0.10808014 / 0.10808014 / 0.10808014 (10 shares, 1.08 BTC), 7D: 0.0164898 / 0.10950172 / 0.14775821 (23 shares, 2.52 BTC), 30D: 0.01359389 / 0.02685208 / 0.19999999 (1051 shares, 28.22 BTC)
Jan 15 13:58:53 <mod6>	i feel like it really wants to break out here... im a cash buyer for sure at $10, but i've been really wanting to grab some more quick before it hits 20
Jan 15 13:59:03 <EskimoBob>	mod6: so is Bugpowder, if he is selling put's
Jan 15 13:59:24 <mod6>	im not saying anything in particular about his position
Jan 15 13:59:39 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i think 20 is more likely than 10 at this point
Jan 15 13:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	but what do i know
Jan 15 13:59:57 <thestringpuller>	thats what she said mod6
Jan 15 14:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3680 @ 0.00475101 = 17.4837 BTC [+]
Jan 15 14:00:19 <EskimoBob>	hits 20? Are'nt you a optimist :)
Jan 15 14:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 870 @ 0.00475103 = 4.1334 BTC [+]
Jan 15 14:01:13 <Namworld>	I hardly see why not...
Jan 15 14:01:18 <mod6>	i feel like that was kinda concervitive. i think we might add another zero to the end of that before too long here.
Jan 15 14:01:25 <mod6>	*conservitive
Jan 15 14:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld bfl.
Jan 15 14:03:03 <EskimoBob>	everything is possible but next big scam (probably one of the ASIC jokers) and we are going to see probably another huge drop.
Jan 15 14:03:28 <EskimoBob>	btc community keeps shitting allover itself
Jan 15 14:03:29 <dub>	hmm
Jan 15 14:03:31 <dub>	"blocks" : 191463,
Jan 15 14:03:37 <mod6>	maybe so... the asics are a huge let down so far.
Jan 15 14:03:47 <dub>	this is getting silly
Jan 15 14:03:56 <EskimoBob>	I  am just speculating
Jan 15 14:04:07 <mod6>	i was even hoping to get a few of these going in '13 also (asics)
Jan 15 14:04:27 <mod6>	i didnt pre-order anything, because I'm a wait and see type usually...
Jan 15 14:04:57 <mod6>	But, I am hopful that someone will put together an orginization that can turn out a stable asic product this year.
Jan 15 14:05:09 <Bugpowder>	I think BFL is going to eventually ship. The scam is collecting money a year or more before they actually ship
Jan 15 14:05:22 <Bugpowder>	i KNEW they were going to have issues with the packaging
Jan 15 14:05:26 <mod6>	I have no idea who, or what, but I remain hopful that someone can turn these things out efficiantly and have them be reliable.
Jan 15 14:05:28 <Bugpowder>	flip chip
Jan 15 14:05:44 <EskimoBob>	I cancelled my FPGA and ASIC orders because mining is total waste of time and good money, unless you scam some idiots to buy your perpetual bonds. :)
Jan 15 14:05:54 <Bugpowder>	EskimoBob tru
Jan 15 14:06:04 <kakobrekla>	the pic that bfl showed is not a flipchip
Jan 15 14:06:04 <mircea_popescu>	<mod6> i didnt pre-order anything, because I'm a wait and see type usuall << seriously wise in this case
Jan 15 14:06:08 <kakobrekla>	the core pic
Jan 15 14:06:13 <EskimoBob>	and I have better things to do than look after assload of computers :)
Jan 15 14:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla exactly.
Jan 15 14:06:22 <mircea_popescu>	i suspect they just cull off interwebs by now.
Jan 15 14:06:42 <dub>	EskimoBob: like make pottery cups?
Jan 15 14:06:59 <EskimoBob>	dub: yes, even that is more fun
Jan 15 14:07:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0047 = 0.0235 BTC [+]
Jan 15 14:07:24 <EskimoBob>	dub: go and try, if you have the balls :)
Jan 15 14:07:34 <mod6>	yeah, im more interested in the asics for personal btc mining and some research
Jan 15 14:07:38 <EskimoBob>	if it's no fun, why even bother?
Jan 15 14:07:45 <dub>	dude everyone has made a pottery cup when they were 4-5 years old
Jan 15 14:07:48 <EskimoBob>	mod6: this is different
Jan 15 14:07:55 <mod6>	I have this dream to build a really extensive elastic asic network
Jan 15 14:08:16 <EskimoBob>	elastic?
Jan 15 14:08:42 <mod6>	like, on demand
Jan 15 14:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 876 @ 0.00475103 = 4.1619 BTC [+]
Jan 15 14:09:18 <mod6>	anyway, a long ways off. i want to see what I can build with these things.
Jan 15 14:09:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.44 = 4.4 BTC [-]
Jan 15 14:09:24 <mod6>	along with some rasberry pi's
Jan 15 14:09:53 <mod6>	*raspberry
Jan 15 14:09:58 <mod6>	god my spelling is bad.
Jan 15 14:10:11 <dub>	no thats a stupid word
Jan 15 14:10:22 <EskimoBob>	pi's are cool little things but there is already some serious competition
Jan 15 14:10:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 33 @ 0.3299 = 10.8867 BTC [-]
Jan 15 14:10:25 <mod6>	what is?
Jan 15 14:10:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [+]
Jan 15 14:10:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.48 = 1.92 BTC [-]
Jan 15 14:10:41 <dub>	also, isnt want you can build with a sha2 hashing asic fairly limited, to hashign sha2?
Jan 15 14:10:48 <dub>	mod6: raspberry
Jan 15 14:10:57 <mod6>	oh hehe
Jan 15 14:11:18 <mod6>	well, i believe that with the asic you can program the array anyway you wish really...
Jan 15 14:11:20 <EskimoBob>	not much else you can do with those ASICS
Jan 15 14:11:36 <jcpham>	cook eggs
Jan 15 14:11:48 <mod6>	and i was thinking if it was something like UCS, but instead of just CPUs, it could be large cards of FPGAs
Jan 15 14:11:49 <dub>	mod6: not afaik, you're thinking fpga?
Jan 15 14:11:49 <EskimoBob>	good idea, and some bacon too
Jan 15 14:12:04 <mod6>	and in a distributed network you could have a cloud of fpga's
Jan 15 14:12:28 <EskimoBob>	but their use is limited to what ever thy are designed
Jan 15 14:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	asics != fpga in any way
Jan 15 14:12:29 <mod6>	dub: oh maybe i am
Jan 15 14:12:51 <mircea_popescu>	those things may be used to possibly fold, for instance, but only if you do some transforms on the fold problem to make it like a hash
Jan 15 14:12:56 <EskimoBob>	not programmed
Jan 15 14:12:58 <mod6>	im talking about the same thing as the guy was trying to sell from BTC FPGA
Jan 15 14:13:01 <mod6>	so that thing yeah
Jan 15 14:13:18 <mod6>	sorry, im wicked tired
Jan 15 14:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00475103 = 12.3527 BTC [+]
Jan 15 14:14:05 <mod6>	anyway, was a dream I had this morning
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Jan 15 14:14:11 <mod6>	who knows :D
Jan 15 14:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 due to painfully obvious market inefficiency i would say by the time 3rd generation asics are here
Jan 15 14:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	we will be awash in useless chips to do any research w/e
Jan 15 14:16:19 <mod6>	hmm.. yeah, we'll just have to see what these guys can come up with
Jan 15 14:18:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.00471726 = 14.6235 BTC [-]
Jan 15 14:20:14 <mod6>	so, ok yeah. i see that they are different from this chart
Jan 15 14:20:16 <mod6>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
Jan 15 14:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	basically an asic is burned in silicon
Jan 15 14:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	a fpga is more like an old flashable bios
Jan 15 14:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00472941 = 9.9318 BTC [+]
Jan 15 14:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00471726 = 6.6042 BTC [-]
Jan 15 14:37:14 <mod6>	i see.
Jan 15 14:37:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2654 @ 0.00475103 = 12.6092 BTC [+]
Jan 15 14:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1196 @ 0.00475106 = 5.6823 BTC [+]
Jan 15 14:39:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00471726 = 3.5379 BTC [-]
Jan 15 14:39:36 <dub>	well kinda
Jan 15 14:42:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: good layman explanation
Jan 15 14:42:23 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: good response to the ddos too
Jan 15 14:42:46 <dub>	fpga has is an array of various logic units that can operate in a number of ways, you give it a program of sorts telling it what you want them to behave and route between each other
Jan 15 14:42:50 <thestringpuller>	did you ever find out if it was a dns attack or direct to your ip?
Jan 15 14:43:03 <mod6>	i was thinking with the way that the fpga could be reprogrammed on the fly, it could be used in an elastic environment
Jan 15 14:43:12 <mod6>	and low power! :D
Jan 15 14:43:15 <dub>	s/what/how
Jan 15 14:43:16 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller it took out the entire gold network at gnax atlanta.
Jan 15 14:43:27 <mircea_popescu>	but we're pretty certain it was directed at mpex.co
Jan 15 14:43:44 <thestringpuller>	it took out a gold networm?
Jan 15 14:43:49 <thestringpuller>	network*
Jan 15 14:43:57 <dub>	asic is bascially taking that 'program' and building somethign specific for it
Jan 15 14:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://gold.gnax.net/ << that
Jan 15 14:45:06 <dub>	hence the Feild Programable and Application Specific portions
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Jan 15 14:48:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 14:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 500 @ 0.2328178 = 116.4089 BTC [+]
Jan 15 14:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 750 @ 0.17610041 = 132.0753 BTC [+]
Jan 15 15:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00474618 = 3.5596 BTC [+]
Jan 15 15:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00471726 = 14.1518 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:05:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00065936 = 7.5497 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:06:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 734 @ 0.00471726 = 3.4625 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:07:32 <dub>	mircea_popescu: did the dos come with an extortion attempt or anything?
Jan 15 15:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00474093 = 7.5855 BTC [+]
Jan 15 15:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	dub no contact.
Jan 15 15:10:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 156 @ 0.00635539 = 0.9914 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00471726 = 11.7932 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:16:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.4111 = 2.0555 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 15:19:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 13 @ 0.411 = 5.343 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:20:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.33 = 4.95 BTC [+]
Jan 15 15:22:07 <mod6>	*yawn*
Jan 15 15:22:13 <mod6>	omg
Jan 15 15:22:33 *	mod6 drinks MOAR mtdew
Jan 15 15:23:27 <Namworld>	... I want to short some of these...
Jan 15 15:23:40 <Korbman>	gah, I'm sooo bored at work today
Jan 15 15:23:46 <Namworld>	Sure no one has something they'd lend for a fee?
Jan 15 15:24:01 <Namworld>	I feel like short selling.
Jan 15 15:24:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1616 @ 0.00471726 = 7.6231 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:24:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 384 @ 0.00471725 = 1.8114 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:25:05 <thestringpuller>	smickles dors
Jan 15 15:25:06 <thestringpuller>	does
Jan 15 15:25:16 <thestringpuller>	.2%
Jan 15 15:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	you wanna short basic mining ?!
Jan 15 15:26:11 <jcpham>	what is basicmining
Jan 15 15:26:13 <Namworld>	Not just that =/
Jan 15 15:26:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00474093 = 2.1334 BTC [+]
Jan 15 15:26:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 450 @ 0.0047 = 2.115 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 15:26:53 <jcpham>	i have no choice but continue to mine & hoard
Jan 15 15:27:21 <kakobrekla>	hoarding if for hoardes
Jan 15 15:27:31 <kakobrekla>	is
Jan 15 15:27:35 <kakobrekla>	if=is
Jan 15 15:27:39 <jcpham>	i set my pool payout address to 1Dice because i can
Jan 15 15:27:41 <kakobrekla>	motherfuck.
Jan 15 15:27:47 <jcpham>	hahaha
Jan 15 15:28:17 <jurov>	looks like mpoe-pr has heard my plea for succinct sample of her personality
Jan 15 15:28:18 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1456179#msg1456179
Jan 15 15:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 15 15:32:29 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham it's all just hashing right ?
Jan 15 15:33:58 <jcpham>	one big house of cards
Jan 15 15:34:10 <jcpham>	you can thank me later for propping it up
Jan 15 15:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	i'd rather thank you now than later at 107%
Jan 15 15:34:33 <jcpham>	haha
Jan 15 15:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	"Another delay we've had to endure is the fact that we have effectively tied the ASIC teams payment to the success of the chip. If the chip were to be a failure they don't get paid... so they have incentive to get it right but that has made them very cautious and slow to approve final masks"
Jan 15 15:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a fine way to not have a team.
Jan 15 15:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard of engineers working on that sort of retainer.
Jan 15 15:37:31 <mircea_popescu>	or doctors, for that matter.
Jan 15 15:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	lawyers rarely do.
Jan 15 15:38:58 <Korbman>	I know some lawyers that do
Jan 15 15:39:04 <Korbman>	especially if they know they have a solid case
Jan 15 15:39:59 <Bugpowder>	My wife does
Jan 15 15:40:02 <Korbman>	there are plenty of blue collar jobs that use the same system, particularly in agriculture
Jan 15 15:40:07 <Bugpowder>	it is way more lucrative than hourly
Jan 15 15:40:20 <Bugpowder>	if you have the right case pipeline
Jan 15 15:40:37 <Korbman>	exactly
Jan 15 15:40:58 <Korbman>	and if you're a fast and accurate worker, you can surpass hourly workers regularly
Jan 15 15:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 116 @ 0.00471725 = 0.5472 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2767 @ 0.00470902 = 13.0299 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00466459 = 4.1981 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 179 @ 0.00466414 = 0.8349 BTC [-]
Jan 15 15:45:26 <Bugpowder>	In my limited experience with silicon mfg contracting, you send a detailed spec sheet.  If they don't meet the spec, they don't get paid.
Jan 15 15:45:51 <mircea_popescu>	you're talking production
Jan 15 15:45:57 <mircea_popescu>	he's talking design.
Jan 15 15:45:58 <Bugpowder>	Of course, there is a discussion about the spec
Jan 15 15:46:09 <Bugpowder>	between the mfg and the designer
Jan 15 15:46:14 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 15 15:46:22 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder and yes some lawyers do, but only when they make more that way
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Jan 15 15:46:29 <mircea_popescu>	which is moot since he;'s arguing it as a cost reduction measure
Jan 15 15:46:36 <mircea_popescu>	rather than as an expensive financing option.
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Jan 15 15:47:05 <mircea_popescu>	in general you should be able to borrow to pay a fixed retainer rather than have to offer the laywer a % as in personal injury cases
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Jan 15 15:53:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00466414 = 1.6324 BTC [-]
Jan 15 16:01:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 196 @ 0.00466414 = 0.9142 BTC [-]
Jan 15 16:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 264 @ 0.00465692 = 1.2294 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 16:07:40 <Namworld>	Hmm, looks like Gigavps has actually started paying people...
Jan 15 16:08:03 <gigavps>	indeed
Jan 15 16:09:24 <jcpham>	hooray!
Jan 15 16:11:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-]
Jan 15 16:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00474093 = 0.237 BTC [+]
Jan 15 16:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2179 @ 0.00475106 = 10.3526 BTC [+]
Jan 15 16:13:12 <thestringpuller>	oh wow
Jan 15 16:15:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
Jan 15 16:19:23 <dub>	mircea_popescu: doesn't sound far fetched at all
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Jan 15 16:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	dub what that ?
Jan 15 16:20:35 <Namworld>	I suppose you're still not going to claim them tho? =/
Jan 15 16:20:52 <dub>	a contract with the manufacturer that they don't get paid if its not delivered
Jan 15 16:21:14 <mircea_popescu>	dub manufacturer yes. the thread looks like it's about the desginer team.
Jan 15 16:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld you think 50 btc or w/e it is changes my mind about stuff like submitting us taxids ?!
Jan 15 16:21:59 <dub>	lots of things I work on are more punitive, ie we start paying penalties for late delivery as well as not getting paid
Jan 15 16:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	dub but they're all commodified i bet.
Jan 15 16:22:37 <Namworld>	It doesn't require US tax ID but eh
Jan 15 16:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. no, nothing's changed.
Jan 15 16:25:57 <Namworld>	Would have thought so.
Jan 15 16:26:02 <dub>	im talking things that need design/build to be delivered
Jan 15 16:27:56 <dub>	similar situation, customer wants x to do y in z, a project arises to achieve it funded by the promise of its success
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Jan 15 16:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	really ?!
Jan 15 16:30:52 <dub>	failure is a, not uncommon, calculated risk
Jan 15 16:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	well, i never heard of it, myself.
Jan 15 16:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	i guess our worlds never met.
Jan 15 16:32:33 <dub>	one spectacular project failure in recent years resulted in a $50m writeoff
Jan 15 16:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00475106 = 7.3641 BTC [+]
Jan 15 16:35:16 <dub>	just what was spent on land/kit/ip for a build out before deciding it wasn't going to return capital
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Jan 15 16:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3075 @ 0.00475106 = 14.6095 BTC [+]
Jan 15 16:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 71 @ 0.00475111 = 0.3373 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 16:39:08 <jcpham>	http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57563963-94/with-gobank-you-can-carry-all-your-money-in-a-pocket/
Jan 15 16:39:34 <Namworld>	That wasted money would have been better spent on my little selfish person... 50 million...
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Jan 15 16:41:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-one-person-id-like-to-meet/
Jan 15 16:41:30 <dub>	its pocket change really
Jan 15 16:42:33 <dub>	that was just a pilot for what would have cost a billion+
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Jan 15 16:44:54 <Namworld>	They should run a pilot project on wether if they give me 50 million, I'll have 50 million.
Jan 15 16:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	they're still falling over each other with this non-bitcoin online payments thing ?
Jan 15 16:45:11 <Namworld>	YES
Jan 15 16:45:14 <jcpham>	apparently
Jan 15 16:45:20 <Namworld>	Feel free to burn them
Jan 15 16:46:16 <mircea_popescu>	what's the point even
Jan 15 16:46:25 <mircea_popescu>	like the new and improved horse carriage, cca 1910
Jan 15 16:47:58 <jcpham>	but with a new carriage compnay though
Jan 15 16:48:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00475111 = 9.0271 BTC [+]
Jan 15 16:48:45 <kakobrekla>	a bmw carriage
Jan 15 16:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	would kick all ass too. if i was ceo of bmw i'd totally do that
Jan 15 16:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	unveil a horsedrawn carriage at the 2013 whatever expo
Jan 15 16:50:05 <mod6>	i'd buy one
Jan 15 16:50:13 <mod6>	i need a horse
Jan 15 16:50:30 <dub>	I'd scrap all the BMWs and resell toyota
Jan 15 16:50:41 <dub>	far superior
Jan 15 16:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't buy a toyota.
Jan 15 16:50:56 <dub>	thats because you have never driven a car
Jan 15 16:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha possibly.
Jan 15 16:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	in fact i've never bought anything other than germanz.
Jan 15 16:51:16 <jcpham>	if you own a horse and a plow you can probably grow your own food to
Jan 15 16:51:17 <jurov>	mircea would do this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cookiesound/7387458292/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Jan 15 16:51:27 <jcpham>	or grow lots of your own food
Jan 15 16:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 15 16:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	with dudes tho ?!
Jan 15 16:51:56 <jurov>	with bitches ofc
Jan 15 16:52:05 <jcpham>	i'd drive the carriage
Jan 15 16:52:12 <mod6>	haha
Jan 15 16:52:33 <jurov>	i've seen them firsthand on vienna pride 2012.. lovely
Jan 15 16:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	there's a dude in californioa doing this for years
Jan 15 16:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	with girls.
Jan 15 16:54:20 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Jan 15 16:55:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 77 @ 0.01 = 0.77 BTC [+]
Jan 15 16:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00470888 = 0.9418 BTC [-]
Jan 15 16:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
Jan 15 16:56:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.13 BTC
Jan 15 16:57:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Ponygirl_folsom2005.jpg liek
Jan 15 17:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	bah
Jan 15 17:01:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1613 BTC [+]
Jan 15 17:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	so a week or so ago - was it a week jurov ? - i was dealing with people rounding off the last two digits
Jan 15 17:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	now they're sending whole btc ;/
Jan 15 17:01:26 <kakobrekla>	i dunno who is the attention whore on that last pic
Jan 15 17:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 578 @ 0.00468969 = 2.7106 BTC [-]
Jan 15 17:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2418 @ 0.00466509 = 11.2802 BTC [-]
Jan 15 17:01:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 619 @ 0.00465692 = 2.8826 BTC [-]
Jan 15 17:02:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 8 @ 0.79 = 6.32 BTC [-]
Jan 15 17:02:49 <kakobrekla>	yeah pregenerated disposable addys ftw
Jan 15 17:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	no. reading faqs ftw.
Jan 15 17:03:45 <kakobrekla>	nobody does that.
Jan 15 17:03:50 <kakobrekla>	its silly to expect.
Jan 15 17:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	free money, can't argue with that.
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Jan 15 17:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00470888 = 10.8304 BTC [+]
Jan 15 17:10:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1483 @ 0.00475108 = 7.0459 BTC [+]
Jan 15 17:13:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00475108 = 10.4524 BTC [+]
Jan 15 17:24:26 <jurov>	yes, noreadingfags
Jan 15 17:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 117 @ 0.00465692 = 0.5449 BTC [-]
Jan 15 17:30:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00463 = 5.093 BTC [-]
Jan 15 17:30:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 483 @ 0.00462501 = 2.2339 BTC [-]
Jan 15 17:32:06 <Schadenfreude>	Aaaaaand - filled
Jan 15 17:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85jzb5Fsc1rqh6xjo1_500.jpg
Jan 15 17:33:44 <Schadenfreude>	Half negress posing as soldier, what's so special about it?
Jan 15 17:34:43 <mircea_popescu>	special ? nothing's special, what are you, a romantic ?
Jan 15 17:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	im just saving it here for when vrag shows up
Jan 15 17:35:22 <jcpham>	too funny
Jan 15 17:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00470759 = 2.1184 BTC [+]
Jan 15 17:41:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 727 @ 0.00475101 = 3.454 BTC [+]
Jan 15 17:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3066 @ 0.00471989 = 14.4712 BTC [-]
Jan 15 17:42:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2817 @ 0.00470759 = 13.2613 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 17:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	this is funny, my book is almost equally divided calls/puts.
Jan 15 17:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	so... stable prices ?
Jan 15 18:00:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2233 @ 0.00470759 = 10.512 BTC [-]
Jan 15 18:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4850 @ 0.0046602 = 22.602 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 18:09:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 15 18:09:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.29004, Best ask: 14.34998, Bid-ask spread: 0.05994, Last trade: 14.29004, 24 hour volume: 51477.40480267, 24 hour low: 13.99178, 24 hour high: 14.47899, 24 hour vwap: 14.20207
Jan 15 18:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 822 @ 0.0046602 = 3.8307 BTC [-]
Jan 15 18:17:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3567 @ 0.00467875 = 16.6891 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 18:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3150 @ 0.00463188 = 14.5904 BTC [-]
Jan 15 18:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00462501 = 6.2438 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 18:32:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 417 @ 0.00462501 = 1.9286 BTC [-]
Jan 15 18:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1183 @ 0.00462455 = 5.4708 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 18:39:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00463216 = 5.5586 BTC [+]
Jan 15 18:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3450 @ 0.00462455 = 15.9547 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 19:04:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00463216 = 9.7275 BTC [+]
Jan 15 19:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00463216 = 8.8011 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 19:11:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 77 @ 0.0047 = 0.3619 BTC [+]
Jan 15 19:12:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 18 @ 0.33 = 5.94 BTC [+]
Jan 15 19:21:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.0046278 = 10.1812 BTC [-]
Jan 15 19:21:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00463216 = 2.5477 BTC [+]
Jan 15 19:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2048 @ 0.00463483 = 9.4921 BTC [+]
Jan 15 19:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00463807 = 0.0093 BTC [+]
Jan 15 19:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00462458 = 1.9978 BTC [-]
Jan 15 19:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2086 @ 0.00462455 = 9.6468 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 19:38:01 <jurov>	!ticker mp s.dice
Jan 15 19:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00449484 / 0.00467464 / 0.00475112 (528892 shares, 2,472.38 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00466731 / 0.0048 (1978804 shares, 9,235.70 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00361629 / 0.0048 (11800824 shares, 42,675.25 BTC)
Jan 15 19:38:14 <jurov>	!ticker mp s.mpoe
Jan 15 19:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063095 / 0.00065714 / 0.00066 (348511 shares, 229.02 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065782 / 0.00066 (6823379 shares, 4,488.62 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.00063615 / 0.00066 (43800018 shares, 27,863.71 BTC)
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Jan 15 19:51:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00463803 = 2.0036 BTC [+]
Jan 15 19:51:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8676 @ 0.00463807 = 40.2399 BTC [+]
Jan 15 19:57:02 <kakobrekla>	http://25.media.tumblr.com/b2332320a0ebc78c9047aff229002ae5/tumblr_mgntro9m3X1ql2603o1_500.jpg
Jan 15 20:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	anyone remember how the gribble diff calc works ?
Jan 15 20:08:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,diff 135
Jan 15 20:08:23 <gribble>	3249549.5844872
Jan 15 20:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,calc 135
Jan 15 20:08:30 <gribble>	use the 'gentime' command instead
Jan 15 20:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;gentime 135
Jan 15 20:08:37 <gribble>	The average time to generate a block at 135.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3249549.58449, is 3 years, 14 weeks, 3 days, 13 hours, 56 minutes, and 48 seconds
Jan 15 20:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	;;gentime 135000
Jan 15 20:09:29 <gribble>	The average time to generate a block at 135000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3249549.58449, is 1 day, 4 hours, 43 minutes, and 4 seconds
Jan 15 20:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00463806 = 2.319 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00463807 = 0.9276 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 20:26:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 598 @ 0.0099 = 5.9202 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00463086 = 2.0005 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2218 @ 0.00463081 = 10.2711 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:31:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00463802 = 2.0036 BTC [+]
Jan 15 20:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 568 @ 0.00463806 = 2.6344 BTC [+]
Jan 15 20:32:58 <pigeons>	from the forum, turn on subtitles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C4SnUObMd0o
Jan 15 20:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00463082 = 2.0005 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 932 @ 0.00463081 = 4.3159 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:33:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 231 @ 0.00462455 = 1.0683 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.00462455 = 0.2775 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 645 @ 0.00462281 = 2.9817 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	this subtitles trend... i like it!
Jan 15 20:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Jan 15 20:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	hey, is that filmned in belgrade ?
Jan 15 20:37:05 <pigeons>	just pasted from the forum
Jan 15 20:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	that looks like one of the nicer spots, towards the park.
Jan 15 20:39:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00462286 = 1.9971 BTC [+]
Jan 15 20:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 868 @ 0.00462281 = 4.0126 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00463802 = 2.0036 BTC [+]
Jan 15 20:42:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 182 @ 0.00463806 = 0.8441 BTC [+]
Jan 15 20:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1654 @ 0.00463807 = 7.6714 BTC [+]
Jan 15 20:44:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 8 @ 0.79 = 6.32 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:44:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 10 @ 0.84 = 8.4 BTC [+]
Jan 15 20:44:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.849 = 1.698 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 20:49:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0047 = 0.0094 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 20:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00463804 = 2.0036 BTC [-]
Jan 15 20:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 168 @ 0.00463807 = 0.7792 BTC [+]
Jan 15 20:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00466124 = 5.5935 BTC [+]
Jan 15 20:59:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1088 @ 0.00466698 = 5.0777 BTC [+]
Jan 15 21:07:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1049 @ 0.00466698 = 4.8957 BTC [+]
Jan 15 21:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 333 @ 0.00467875 = 1.558 BTC [+]
Jan 15 21:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 518 @ 0.00469272 = 2.4308 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 21:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00469272 = 13.1396 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 21:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00463464 = 2.0022 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:22:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1468 @ 0.00463459 = 6.8036 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00463462 = 2.0022 BTC [+]
Jan 15 21:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.0046346 = 2.0021 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:24:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 582 @ 0.00463459 = 2.6973 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:24:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4 @ 0.00462285 = 0.0185 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.0046229 = 1.9971 BTC [+]
Jan 15 21:27:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 861 @ 0.00462285 = 3.9803 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1537 @ 0.00462281 = 7.1053 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:27:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 370 @ 0.00461942 = 1.7092 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:38:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00463655 = 9.5049 BTC [+]
Jan 15 21:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2880 @ 0.00461942 = 13.3039 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:39:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2270 @ 0.00461489 = 10.4758 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:44:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.0046927 = 2.0272 BTC [+]
Jan 15 21:44:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3678 @ 0.00469272 = 17.2598 BTC [+]
Jan 15 21:44:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 705 @ 0.004695 = 3.31 BTC [+]
Jan 15 21:47:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.0046149 = 1.9936 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 930 @ 0.00461489 = 4.2918 BTC [-]
Jan 15 21:47:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 88 @ 0.00460968 = 0.4057 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 21:50:44 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Jan 15 21:50:46 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 216716 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 1011 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 17 hours, 21 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2958271.49649687 | Estimated Percent Change: -8.96364497347
Jan 15 22:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1931 @ 0.00460968 = 8.9013 BTC [-]
Jan 15 22:07:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4069 @ 0.00460366 = 18.7323 BTC [-]
Jan 15 22:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1470 @ 0.00459927 = 6.7609 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 22:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 726 @ 0.0006546 = 0.4752 BTC [-]
Jan 15 22:10:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29110 @ 0.00065459 = 19.0551 BTC [-]
Jan 15 22:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4264 @ 0.00065363 = 2.7871 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 22:46:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1824 @ 0.00459927 = 8.3891 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 22:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-14/it-begins-bundesbank-commence-repatriating-gold-new-york-fed
Jan 15 22:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	and so it begins.
Jan 15 22:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 510 @ 0.00465394 = 2.3735 BTC [+]
Jan 15 22:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.0046543 = 2.0107 BTC [+]
Jan 15 22:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.0046543 = 2.0107 BTC [+]
Jan 15 22:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00465431 = 8.3778 BTC [+]
Jan 15 22:57:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 624 @ 0.00465996 = 2.9078 BTC [+]
Jan 15 22:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 545 @ 0.004695 = 2.5588 BTC [+]
Jan 15 22:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00470171 = 7.0526 BTC [+]
Jan 15 22:57:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 698 @ 0.00470707 = 3.2855 BTC [+]
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Jan 15 23:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00460113 = 5.0612 BTC [-]
Jan 15 23:13:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00465223 = 5.5827 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:13:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 427 @ 0.00470707 = 2.0099 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:13:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1467 @ 0.00471289 = 6.9138 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00459928 = 1.9869 BTC [-]
Jan 15 23:18:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1384 @ 0.00459927 = 6.3654 BTC [-]
Jan 15 23:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1082 @ 0.00459916 = 4.9763 BTC [-]
Jan 15 23:18:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00459239 = 2.7554 BTC [-]
Jan 15 23:18:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 172 @ 0.00459179 = 0.7898 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 23:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is this
Jan 15 23:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	buy 50 btcworth, sell 50 btc worth
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Jan 15 23:38:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.0046523 = 2.0098 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 618 @ 0.00465229 = 2.8751 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 23:47:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoin-wins-more-bundesbank-will-deutsches-gold-zuruckholen/
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Jan 15 23:49:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1182 @ 0.00465229 = 5.499 BTC [-]
Jan 15 23:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2118 @ 0.00459179 = 9.7254 BTC [-]
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Jan 15 23:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00471286 = 2.036 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:51:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1568 @ 0.00471289 = 7.3898 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:57:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0047 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:58:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00471284 = 2.0359 BTC [-]
Jan 15 23:58:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00471286 = 2.036 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00471286 = 2.036 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:58:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1240 @ 0.00471289 = 5.844 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1414 @ 0.00471489 = 6.6669 BTC [+]
Jan 15 23:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00471489 = 9.4298 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00469631 = 2.0288 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 168 @ 0.00469628 = 0.789 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:09:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00471487 = 2.0368 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:09:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 636 @ 0.00471489 = 2.9987 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00472584 = 13.7049 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:09:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00473143 = 2.8389 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:15:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00469633 = 2.0288 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:15:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2382 @ 0.00469628 = 11.1865 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:20:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:20:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.41 = 4.1 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:20:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.4061 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:20:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 13 @ 0.406 = 5.278 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:20:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.403 = 2.418 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 00:22:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.449 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 00:23:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 336 @ 0.0046911 = 1.5762 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00471486 = 4.7149 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:23:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1364 @ 0.00473143 = 6.4537 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:30:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00464762 = 2.0078 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:30:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00464762 = 2.0078 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:30:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1236 @ 0.00464758 = 5.7444 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:38:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.301 = 0.903 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:38:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 40 @ 0.3 = 12 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/sbvps-delisting-notice/
Jan 16 00:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	S.BVPS to be delisted, Feb 15th
Jan 16 00:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00065364 = 12.9748 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27836 @ 0.00065363 = 18.1944 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:44:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6414 @ 0.00065135 = 4.1778 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 00:49:43 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu is trying to push Namjiies into using the rota one way or another ;)
Jan 16 00:49:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Jan 16 00:51:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 33 @ 0.3299 = 10.8867 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 00:52:29 <Namworld>	no... I wanted to stick around but eh
Jan 16 00:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.0047077 = 2.0337 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:52:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00470774 = 9.8863 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.0047133 = 12.7259 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3436 @ 0.00473143 = 16.2572 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1580 @ 0.00473148 = 7.4757 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00474996 = 18.9998 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5670 @ 0.00474999 = 26.9324 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3670 @ 0.00475002 = 17.4326 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9990 @ 0.00475009 = 47.4534 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 373 @ 0.00475101 = 1.7721 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:17 <Namworld>	My copartners weren't too enthusiastic. I managed to convince them on a new contract, but we're real turtles
Jan 16 00:53:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3317 @ 0.00475108 = 15.7593 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3029 @ 0.00475111 = 14.3911 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4328 @ 0.00475112 = 20.5628 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4027 @ 0.00475112 = 19.1328 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 229 @ 0.00475127 = 1.088 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00475193 = 10.4542 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00475247 = 4.7525 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00475614 = 8.0854 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1585 @ 0.00475625 = 7.5387 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3006 @ 0.00475847 = 14.304 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00475908 = 4.997 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4450 @ 0.00475914 = 21.1782 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.00476 = 95.2 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:53:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.00476002 = 18.0881 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:04 <Namworld>	Well with rg's previous violations too, no financial statements plus neglect.
Jan 16 00:54:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5200 @ 0.0047614 = 24.7593 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.00476203 = 15.7147 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1855 @ 0.00476745 = 8.8436 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7187 @ 0.00476839 = 34.2704 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00476914 = 1.6692 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4050 @ 0.00477094 = 19.3223 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2950 @ 0.00477199 = 14.0774 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1056 @ 0.00477363 = 5.041 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:20 <Namworld>	Guess we're not up to MPEx's standards.
Jan 16 00:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00477406 = 8.1159 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 529 @ 0.00477469 = 2.5258 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1938 @ 0.00477525 = 9.2544 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00477533 = 7.8793 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00477577 = 6.6861 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00477619 = 5.7314 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2782 @ 0.00477922 = 13.2958 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00477933 = 5.9742 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00478196 = 5.7384 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1224 @ 0.00478275 = 5.8541 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:54:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3550 @ 0.00478339 = 16.981 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.0047848 = 7.4164 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00478494 = 9.8091 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00478529 = 4.0675 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4700 @ 0.00478529 = 22.4909 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1366 @ 0.0047853 = 6.5367 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1370 @ 0.0047887 = 6.5605 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1089 @ 0.00479075 = 5.2171 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1405 @ 0.00479079 = 6.7311 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 739 @ 0.00479383 = 3.5426 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.00479515 = 18.2216 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 163 @ 0.00479613 = 0.7818 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4532 @ 0.00479624 = 21.7366 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00479836 = 8.637 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00479859 = 10.317 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4071 @ 0.00479887 = 19.5362 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.00479891 = 15.8364 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2504 @ 0.00479944 = 12.0178 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 249513 @ 0.0048 = 1197.6624 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00480255 = 10.0854 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00480415 = 5.2846 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 823 @ 0.00480454 = 3.9541 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1126 @ 0.00480477 = 5.4102 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 770 @ 0.00480607 = 3.7007 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3332 @ 0.00480648 = 16.0152 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00480769 = 10.0961 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00480771 = 16.827 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1068 @ 0.00480836 = 5.1353 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2184 @ 0.00480844 = 10.5016 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2203 @ 0.0048088 = 10.5938 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00480882 = 2.6449 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2350 @ 0.00480946 = 11.3022 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4350 @ 0.00480947 = 20.9212 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00481158 = 2.8869 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00481168 = 12.5104 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00481194 = 9.6239 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00481305 = 12.0326 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00481453 = 6.7403 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.0048158 = 1.6855 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00481605 = 3.1304 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3819 @ 0.00481704 = 18.3963 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1606 @ 0.0048176 = 7.7371 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck
Jan 16 00:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00481882 = 2.4094 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5550 @ 0.00481908 = 26.7459 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3143 @ 0.0048201 = 15.1496 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:44 <mircea_popescu>	sdice can do this too ?!
Jan 16 00:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2750 @ 0.00482146 = 13.259 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.00482248 = 17.3609 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2656 @ 0.00482339 = 12.8109 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2676 @ 0.00482662 = 12.916 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4996 @ 0.00483162 = 24.1388 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00483188 = 7.4894 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4600 @ 0.00483298 = 22.2317 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00483332 = 14.0166 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00483545 = 11.6051 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 603 @ 0.00483635 = 2.9163 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:58:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00483632 = 24.1816 BTC [-]
Jan 16 00:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00483634 = 2.0893 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:58:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1097 @ 0.00483635 = 5.3055 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1606 @ 0.00483735 = 7.7688 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 572 @ 0.00483826 = 2.7675 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:59:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4900 @ 0.00483927 = 23.7124 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:59:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00483967 = 0.9679 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:59:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.0048409 = 11.1341 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:59:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00484094 = 14.0387 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 993 @ 0.00484477 = 4.8109 BTC [+]
Jan 16 00:59:55 <leotreasure>	lol cool
Jan 16 01:00:22 <Namworld>	apparently
Jan 16 01:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 16 01:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0045637 / 0.00474129 / 0.00484477 (1020519 shares, 4,838.58 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00469048 / 0.00484477 (2519971 shares, 11,819.89 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00367557 / 0.00484477 (12302512 shares, 45,218.75 BTC)
Jan 16 01:01:31 <mircea_popescu>	so like 3k btc
Jan 16 01:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.00484477 /  0.0047077
Jan 16 01:01:45 <gribble>	1.0291161289
Jan 16 01:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	3%
Jan 16 01:02:59 <Namworld>	I purchased for like 3% of that
Jan 16 01:04:37 <mircea_popescu>	it never sold that low did it ?!
Jan 16 01:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 869 @ 0.00482809 = 4.1956 BTC [-]
Jan 16 01:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	i mean i recall 18s flashing at some point, bu that'd be 35%
Jan 16 01:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 431 @ 0.00484468 = 2.0881 BTC [+]
Jan 16 01:19:24 <Namworld>	I mean I bought 3% of what what just sold (100/3000)
Jan 16 01:21:12 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Jan 16 01:21:26 <pigeons>	wow
Jan 16 01:21:30 <pigeons>	oh
Jan 16 01:22:03 <pigeons>	i sold 3%
Jan 16 01:27:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065472 = 0.6547 BTC [+]
Jan 16 01:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00065473 = 11.4905 BTC [+]
Jan 16 01:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18294 @ 0.00065928 = 12.0609 BTC [+]
Jan 16 01:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22256 @ 0.00066 = 14.689 BTC [+]
Jan 16 01:31:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00468878 = 5.6265 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 01:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00467321 = 4.6732 BTC [-]
Jan 16 01:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.0046732 = 2.0188 BTC [-]
Jan 16 01:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1074 @ 0.00467318 = 5.019 BTC [-]
Jan 16 01:47:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00467319 = 2.0188 BTC [+]
Jan 16 01:47:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2318 @ 0.00467318 = 10.8324 BTC [-]
Jan 16 01:52:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2115 @ 0.00467318 = 9.8838 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 02:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 493 @ 0.00467318 = 2.3039 BTC [-]
Jan 16 02:01:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00467314 = 6.5424 BTC [-]
Jan 16 02:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00466677 = 2.3334 BTC [-]
Jan 16 02:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1464 @ 0.00464758 = 6.8041 BTC [-]
Jan 16 02:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1843 @ 0.00463134 = 8.5356 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 02:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 635 @ 0.00468499 = 2.975 BTC [+]
Jan 16 02:28:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00468874 = 2.0255 BTC [+]
Jan 16 02:28:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1783 @ 0.00468878 = 8.3601 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 02:40:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4333 @ 0.00066 = 2.8598 BTC [+]
Jan 16 02:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8517 @ 0.00066182 = 5.6367 BTC [+]
Jan 16 02:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00463139 = 2.0008 BTC [-]
Jan 16 02:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1518 @ 0.00463134 = 7.0304 BTC [-]
Jan 16 03:01:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 03:19:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00466308 = 2.0145 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:19:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 842 @ 0.0046631 = 3.9263 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1231 @ 0.0046631 = 5.7403 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:23:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 669 @ 0.00468878 = 3.1368 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:31:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00468877 = 2.0255 BTC [-]
Jan 16 03:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 598 @ 0.00468878 = 2.8039 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00469826 = 1.4095 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 840 @ 0.00470414 = 3.9515 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00468876 = 1.1722 BTC [-]
Jan 16 03:35:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00470414 = 0.047 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1140 @ 0.00471199 = 5.3717 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00465778 = 1.1644 BTC [-]
Jan 16 03:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00465777 = 2.0122 BTC [-]
Jan 16 03:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2468 @ 0.00465776 = 11.4954 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 03:39:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00471196 = 2.0356 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1093 @ 0.00471199 = 5.1502 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:39:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.00475 = 0.285 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00477384 = 13.3668 BTC [+]
Jan 16 03:51:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00476791 = 6.1983 BTC [-]
Jan 16 04:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2750 @ 0.00477384 = 13.1281 BTC [+]
Jan 16 04:05:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2155 @ 0.00477384 = 10.2876 BTC [+]
Jan 16 04:05:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1379 @ 0.00478897 = 6.604 BTC [+]
Jan 16 04:05:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Jan 16 04:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 366 @ 0.00478897 = 1.7528 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 04:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00478897 = 9.099 BTC [+]
Jan 16 04:20:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00476791 = 0.2384 BTC [-]
Jan 16 04:20:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00476541 = 2.621 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 04:37:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 505 @ 0.00478897 = 2.4184 BTC [+]
Jan 16 04:37:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 695 @ 0.00479038 = 3.3293 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 04:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1455 @ 0.00479038 = 6.97 BTC [+]
Jan 16 04:40:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3400 @ 0.00481849 = 16.3829 BTC [+]
Jan 16 04:40:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2545 @ 0.00483033 = 12.2932 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 04:51:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00478117 = 6.6936 BTC [-]
Jan 16 04:51:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 165 @ 0.00476541 = 0.7863 BTC [-]
Jan 16 04:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 495 @ 0.00467781 = 2.3155 BTC [-]
Jan 16 04:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00467785 = 2.0208 BTC [+]
Jan 16 04:56:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 779 @ 0.00467781 = 3.644 BTC [-]
Jan 16 04:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 39 @ 0.00465776 = 0.1817 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 04:59:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00465777 = 2.0122 BTC [+]
Jan 16 04:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 426 @ 0.00465776 = 1.9842 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 05:10:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.849 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 05:26:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00468166 = 2.0225 BTC [+]
Jan 16 05:26:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2767 @ 0.00468168 = 12.9542 BTC [+]
Jan 16 05:26:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2218 @ 0.00468607 = 10.3937 BTC [+]
Jan 16 05:27:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.0073 = 0.0292 BTC [+]
Jan 16 05:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00480297 = 6.2439 BTC [+]
Jan 16 05:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 471 @ 0.00470726 = 2.2171 BTC [-]
Jan 16 05:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1110 @ 0.00465777 = 5.1701 BTC [-]
Jan 16 05:56:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 719 @ 0.00465776 = 3.3489 BTC [-]
Jan 16 06:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00474762 = 1.899 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00478485 = 2.0671 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1918 @ 0.00478489 = 9.1774 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00474761 = 4.7476 BTC [-]
Jan 16 06:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 536 @ 0.00478489 = 2.5647 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:07:13 <xza>	looks like mpex lost another stock and this time it's S.BVPS
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Jan 16 06:11:26 <EskimoBob>	?
Jan 16 06:12:35 <pigeons>	EskimoBob: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/sbvps-delisting-notice/
Jan 16 06:12:44 <EskimoBob>	now 3/4 of listed stocks are total junk on mpex?
Jan 16 06:13:32 <EskimoBob>	mpex is like a fart in a small room
Jan 16 06:14:01 <EskimoBob>	correction, like a dog fart
Jan 16 06:14:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00479479 = 2.3974 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:15:18 <xza>	lol @ "mpex is like a fart in a small room"
Jan 16 06:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00479479 = 8.8704 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:18:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.32 = 0.96 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:18:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.33 = 2.31 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:18:22 <xza>	I this one going to be just deleted or will there be some type of buyback by BVPS new owners?
Jan 16 06:20:22 <pigeons>	;;seen Namworld
Jan 16 06:20:23 <gribble>	Namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours and 58 seconds ago: <Namworld> I mean I bought 3% of what what just sold (100/3000)
Jan 16 06:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00483029 = 4.8303 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:20:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1110 @ 0.0048303 = 5.3616 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:20:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1690 @ 0.00483033 = 8.1633 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:21:03 <pigeons>	namworld said something like, "well i would have liked to have stayed [on mpex]"
Jan 16 06:21:15 <pigeons>	so basically, delisted & deleted, yeah
Jan 16 06:21:19 <pigeons>	as it stands now
Jan 16 06:21:55 <EskimoBob>	no buy back by majority owner?
Jan 16 06:22:12 <EskimoBob>	just "Thanks for the coin and fuck off!"?
Jan 16 06:22:42 <EskimoBob>	mpex looks even worst than glbse by now
Jan 16 06:24:00 <pigeons>	how can mpex help that?
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Jan 16 06:29:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0047 = 0.47 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:30:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1392 @ 0.00483033 = 6.7238 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 808 @ 0.00483414 = 3.906 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:31:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 414 @ 0.00479479 = 1.985 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 06:33:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4489 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 06:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1015 @ 0.00473864 = 4.8097 BTC [-]
Jan 16 06:38:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [+]
Jan 16 06:44:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00473864 = 4.7386 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 06:50:21 <EskimoBob>	that's for him to figure out or stop boasting how he is the best and what not :)
Jan 16 06:52:54 <pigeons>	well, i don't think that's likely any time soon ;)
Jan 16 06:54:52 <EskimoBob>	probably not :(
Jan 16 07:00:21 <EskimoBob>	LOL: http://i.imgur.com/4yeJI.jpg
Jan 16 07:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00466092 = 2.0135 BTC [-]
Jan 16 07:03:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1140 @ 0.00466088 = 5.3134 BTC [-]
Jan 16 07:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2028 @ 0.00466087 = 9.4522 BTC [-]
Jan 16 07:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00466088 = 2.0135 BTC [+]
Jan 16 07:12:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1468 @ 0.00466087 = 6.8422 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 07:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3850 @ 0.00466087 = 17.9443 BTC [-]
Jan 16 07:20:29 <EskimoBob>	poor Gigamining owners. They got fucked once more
Jan 16 07:23:25 <Ukto>	?
Jan 16 07:23:53 <EskimoBob>	read the thread :)
Jan 16 07:24:33 <EskimoBob>	start from page 89 or so
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Jan 16 07:24:42 <EskimoBob>	90
Jan 16 07:33:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00466269 = 2.0143 BTC [+]
Jan 16 07:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 472 @ 0.0046627 = 2.2008 BTC [+]
Jan 16 07:33:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00471288 = 8.0119 BTC [+]
Jan 16 07:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 321 @ 0.00473864 = 1.5211 BTC [+]
Jan 16 07:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00477105 = 2.0611 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 07:40:27 <EskimoBob>	if BurtW is starting to hype something, you know it will go down in flames and everyone loses their coin.
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Jan 16 07:49:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00480079 = 9.3615 BTC [+]
Jan 16 07:49:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00477105 = 3.8168 BTC [-]
Jan 16 07:53:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00480163 = 5.0417 BTC [+]
Jan 16 07:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00065135 = 6.9694 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:09:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00480163 = 1.2004 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:09:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1140 @ 0.00483413 = 5.5109 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:09:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1460 @ 0.00483414 = 7.0578 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:09:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 182 @ 0.00483414 = 0.8798 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1786 @ 0.00483969 = 8.6437 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00484467 = 4.8447 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6000 @ 0.00484471 = 29.0683 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1407 @ 0.00484477 = 6.8166 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:10:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6500 @ 0.0048463 = 31.501 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:10:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1594 @ 0.00484657 = 7.7254 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00484813 = 2.1817 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00484969 = 14.5491 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:10:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1042 @ 0.00485024 = 5.054 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00485041 = 9.7008 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00485166 = 6.3072 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:10:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.0048524 = 6.5507 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2639 @ 0.00485503 = 12.8124 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00485543 = 8.7398 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00485809 = 2.9149 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00485842 = 10.4456 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00485909 = 9.4752 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1999 @ 0.00486072 = 9.7166 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00486132 = 5.3475 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1762 @ 0.00486381 = 8.57 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00486496 = 4.3785 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00486548 = 9.9742 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00486597 = 6.8124 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.00486909 = 18.5025 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 281 @ 0.00487219 = 1.3691 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00487709 = 1.4631 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00487737 = 4.8774 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00487916 = 8.2946 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4500 @ 0.00488299 = 21.9735 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00488501 = 7.816 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00488596 = 10.5048 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 831 @ 0.00488796 = 4.0619 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00489217 = 8.3167 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1678 @ 0.00489501 = 8.2138 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:11:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00490112 = 0.9802 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1392 @ 0.00490169 = 6.8232 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00490463 = 9.0736 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1477 @ 0.00490471 = 7.2443 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:12:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6400 @ 0.00491218 = 31.438 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:12:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1717 @ 0.00491791 = 8.4441 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:12:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00492349 = 4.185 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00496217 = 8.9319 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2899 @ 0.00496697 = 14.3992 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:15:27 <Schadenfreude>	Gotta love those crazy speculative maneuvers
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Jan 16 08:21:02 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 16 08:21:05 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00459179 / 0.00476033 / 0.00496697 (999144 shares, 4,756.26 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00469691 / 0.00496697 (2656795 shares, 12,478.73 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00369229 / 0.00496697 (12482087 shares, 46,087.58 BTC)
Jan 16 08:23:15 <Schadenfreude>	So people buy up everything below a certain price and sell for an inflated price since nobody can't undercut them? This is better than video games
Jan 16 08:23:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00498009 = 7.9681 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:23:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1049 @ 0.00511655 = 5.3673 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00517869 = 6.2144 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:25:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 151 @ 0.0052 = 0.7852 BTC [+]
Jan 16 08:25:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1405 @ 0.00477105 = 6.7033 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1170 @ 0.00466088 = 5.4532 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 654 @ 0.00466087 = 3.0482 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00465781 = 4.6578 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2348 @ 0.00465776 = 10.9364 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00465771 = 3.7262 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3398 @ 0.00465496 = 15.8176 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1354 @ 0.00464553 = 6.29 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.00464286 = 17.6429 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1197 @ 0.00463134 = 5.5437 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1544 @ 0.0046212 = 7.1351 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00462007 = 3.6961 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.00462007 = 0.2772 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:25:59 <Bugpowder>	then people sell for a deflated price
Jan 16 08:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00460781 = 11.0587 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:03 <Bugpowder>	weird
Jan 16 08:26:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1211 @ 0.00460739 = 5.5795 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6300 @ 0.0046006 = 28.9838 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1006 @ 0.00459645 = 4.624 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00459179 = 0.0459 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4441 @ 0.00459038 = 20.3859 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8650 @ 0.00458829 = 39.6887 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 918 @ 0.00458368 = 4.2078 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2850 @ 0.00458256 = 13.0603 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00458093 = 5.4971 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4527 @ 0.00457702 = 20.7202 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00457629 = 13.7289 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00457596 = 2.288 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00457533 = 13.726 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00457532 = 11.8958 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00457478 = 8.6921 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2207 @ 0.00457186 = 10.0901 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00456414 = 7.3026 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2125 @ 0.0045637 = 9.6979 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00456194 = 8.4396 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00455617 = 6.3786 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00455456 = 5.4655 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.00455309 = 15.0252 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00455263 = 11.3816 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00455239 = 2.2762 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4266 @ 0.00455073 = 19.4134 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8800 @ 0.00455006 = 40.0405 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4750 @ 0.00454746 = 21.6004 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:27:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1308 @ 0.00454703 = 5.9475 BTC [-]
Jan 16 08:28:57 <Bugpowder>	in other news...
Jan 16 08:28:58 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 16 08:28:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.48503, Best ask: 14.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01497, Last trade: 14.48503, 24 hour volume: 35761.68913453, 24 hour low: 14.15850, 24 hour high: 14.50000, 24 hour vwap: 14.33216
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Jan 16 09:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3340 @ 0.00479994 = 16.0318 BTC [+]
Jan 16 09:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.00473687 = 0.2842 BTC [-]
Jan 16 09:04:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00473688 = 2.0463 BTC [+]
Jan 16 09:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1006 @ 0.00473687 = 4.7653 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 09:31:53 <thestringpuller>	Who runs BitVPS now?
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Jan 16 09:35:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00480643 = 2.4032 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 09:42:37 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 16 09:42:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.48 / 0.48000000 (251 shares, 120.48000000 BTC), 7D: 0.47500000 / 0.4819037 / 0.50000000 (945 shares, 455.39900000 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.45293345 / 0.62000000 (3516 shares, 1592.51399998 BTC)
Jan 16 09:42:42 <topace>	!ticker m sdice
Jan 16 09:42:43 <assbot>	Did you kill the white man who killed you?
Jan 16 09:42:50 <topace>	!ticker mpex sdice
Jan 16 09:42:52 <assbot>	I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
Jan 16 09:42:56 <topace>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 16 09:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00454703 / 0.00474688 / 0.0052 (1089738 shares, 5,172.86 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00469333 / 0.0052 (2750047 shares, 12,906.88 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00370038 / 0.0052 (12586674 shares, 46,575.50 BTC)
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Jan 16 09:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00480643 = 5.0468 BTC [+]
Jan 16 09:43:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00473687 = 4.0263 BTC [-]
Jan 16 09:45:41 <jurov>	thestringpuller, namworld+arij+phungus
Jan 16 09:45:55 <topace>	oh wow the 0.0048 wall dissappeared
Jan 16 09:48:39 <Bugpowder>	yeah its amazing what happens when you forget a zero
Jan 16 09:48:43 <Bugpowder>	:(
Jan 16 09:49:24 <topace>	lol
Jan 16 09:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00484313 = 2.0922 BTC [+]
Jan 16 09:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1170 @ 0.00484315 = 5.6665 BTC [+]
Jan 16 09:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00484316 = 10.8971 BTC [+]
Jan 16 09:49:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00500243 = 7.0034 BTC [+]
Jan 16 09:49:37 <Bugpowder>	not funny dude
Jan 16 09:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00511056 = 20.4422 BTC [+]
Jan 16 09:49:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 695 @ 0.00511057 = 3.5518 BTC [+]
Jan 16 09:49:53 <Bugpowder>	I just realized the massive dump after it was me missing a zero
Jan 16 09:50:01 <Bugpowder>	fml
Jan 16 09:50:17 <Bugpowder>	at least it was only 100,000 shares
Jan 16 09:50:31 <topace>	well seems to be trading higher now anyways
Jan 16 09:50:33 <topace>	you spooked the market
Jan 16 09:50:42 <topace>	you can sell them at a profit
Jan 16 09:50:56 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 16 09:50:58 <Bugpowder>	I sold them
Jan 16 09:51:07 <Bugpowder>	sell 100000 @ 90000
Jan 16 09:51:11 <Bugpowder>	oops
Jan 16 09:51:19 <topace>	oh!
Jan 16 09:51:20 <topace>	lol
Jan 16 09:51:23 <Schadenfreude>	And I thought you were one of the crazy people buying everything up until they have a monopoly and then selling for insane prices
Jan 16 09:51:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 53 @ 0.0052 = 0.2756 BTC [+]
Jan 16 09:53:08 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: you were the dump?
Jan 16 09:53:42 <thestringpuller>	jurov: do you still use BitVps? They should just run openstack like rackspace and become BitCloud
Jan 16 09:53:49 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 16 09:54:03 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 16 09:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00454703 / 0.00474916 / 0.0052 (1101638 shares, 5,231.86 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00469447 / 0.0052 (2759747 shares, 12,955.57 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00370156 / 0.0052 (12598574 shares, 46,634.50 BTC)
Jan 16 09:54:14 <thestringpuller>	you didn't drop the average price though
Jan 16 09:54:20 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.bvps
Jan 16 09:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1D: 0.00635539 / 0.00635539 / 0.00635539 (156 shares, 0.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00635539 / 0.00635539 / 0.00635541 (196 shares, 1.25 BTC), 30D: 0.00200003 / 0.00337645 / 0.00635541 (13429 shares, 45.34 BTC)
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Jan 16 09:54:46 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 100000*.00474916-.004557
Jan 16 09:54:46 <gribble>	474.911443
Jan 16 09:54:58 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 100000*(.00474916-.004557)
Jan 16 09:54:58 <gribble>	19.216
Jan 16 09:55:08 <thestringpuller>	damn how do you have so many btc in the system?
Jan 16 09:55:15 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 100000*(.0051-.004557)
Jan 16 09:55:15 <gribble>	54.3
Jan 16 09:55:24 <Bugpowder>	Yah, about at 30-40BTC loss
Jan 16 09:55:31 <Bugpowder>	stupid
Jan 16 09:55:34 <thestringpuller>	you bought the at .0051?
Jan 16 09:55:42 <Bugpowder>	if I were to buy back
Jan 16 09:55:45 <Bugpowder>	that is what I would have to pay
Jan 16 09:55:59 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 16 09:56:00 <Bugpowder>	if anyone was actually selling
Jan 16 09:56:20 <Bugpowder>	gotta stop trading while distracted with a baby
Jan 16 09:56:23 <thestringpuller>	those shares probably closed a short
Jan 16 09:56:30 <thestringpuller>	what was the gain from when you bouht them
Jan 16 09:56:34 <thestringpuller>	those were pre ipo non?
Jan 16 09:56:40 <Bugpowder>	ya
Jan 16 09:57:13 <Bugpowder>	I'm like... damn that is weird price action following a big buy...
Jan 16 09:57:25 <thestringpuller>	heh
Jan 16 09:57:26 <Bugpowder>	log in, check stat.
Jan 16 09:57:28 <Bugpowder>	o fuk
Jan 16 09:57:41 <thestringpuller>	you must have a bunch of BTC now though
Jan 16 09:57:45 <thestringpuller>	invest in something else
Jan 16 09:58:01 <Bugpowder>	I think I just need to turn it off for a while
Jan 16 09:58:20 <pigeons>	no you can keep buying
Jan 16 09:58:22 <thestringpuller>	heh cold wallet
Jan 16 10:00:29 <jurov>	Bugpowder, time to fund development of a usable mpex desktop app, no?
Jan 16 10:01:00 <Bugpowder>	pympex is fine
Jan 16 10:01:03 <Bugpowder>	like
Jan 16 10:01:15 <Bugpowder>	It's not like this shit doesnt happen everyday
Jan 16 10:01:21 <Bugpowder>	on bloomberg terminals
Jan 16 10:02:13 <jurov>	pympex does not show you "btc total"
Jan 16 10:02:18 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 16 10:02:28 <jurov>	that would perhaps have alerted you
Jan 16 10:02:29 <Bugpowder>	a confirmation step would be great actually
Jan 16 10:02:44 <Bugpowder>	who wants to make it?
Jan 16 10:02:47 <Bugpowder>	5BTC
Jan 16 10:02:50 <Bugpowder>	bounty!
Jan 16 10:03:26 <topace>	anything thats an order of magnitude out of the expected range should throw a big warning :p
Jan 16 10:07:21 <Bugpowder>	Well if anyone that bought shares in that dump would like to sell them back to me for a reasonable profit, I have thrown up some bids :-)
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Jan 16 10:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1752 @ 0.00477623 = 8.368 BTC [-]
Jan 16 10:12:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.48 = 9.12 BTC [-]
Jan 16 10:12:19 <Bugpowder>	Actually, it would be trivial to add a sanity check to the pyMPEX script.
Jan 16 10:12:23 <Bugpowder>	I think I will do that.
Jan 16 10:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 10:19:27 <jurov>	Bugpowder, I'll do it in a while.
Jan 16 10:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00474004 = 2.0477 BTC [-]
Jan 16 10:19:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 890 @ 0.00474 = 4.2186 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 10:23:06 <Bugpowder>	This might be my first down day in USD terms since Dec 23rd
Jan 16 10:23:30 <EskimoBob>	0.0044440 @ bitfunder :)
Jan 16 10:23:35 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 16 10:24:05 <EskimoBob>	I guess it really has to move before it gets dragged to same level
Jan 16 10:24:06 <Bugpowder>	I bet that buyout of the 48 wall happend when a mini-whale was on a losing streak
Jan 16 10:24:32 <Bugpowder>	I think S.DICE is destined to go up until Erik puts another IPO wall up
Jan 16 10:24:41 <Bugpowder>	the passthrus buy shares
Jan 16 10:24:47 <Bugpowder>	but they never sell them
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Jan 16 10:25:05 <Bugpowder>	slowly removing avabilable shares from MPEX
Jan 16 10:25:11 <Bugpowder>	driving prices up
Jan 16 10:25:20 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: is dice profits static?
Jan 16 10:25:28 <Bugpowder>	?
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Jan 16 10:25:46 <Bugpowder>	dice expected profits is 1.9% of bet volume
Jan 16 10:25:49 <Bugpowder>	fixed
Jan 16 10:25:53 <thestringpuller>	can sdice lose money?
Jan 16 10:25:53 <EskimoBob>	or someone is just helping the pump and dump along
Jan 16 10:26:07 <Bugpowder>	sdice never pays a negative dividend
Jan 16 10:26:22 <EskimoBob>	negative dividend -  never see one in my life :)
Jan 16 10:26:25 <Bugpowder>	but the dividends will go in a whole
Jan 16 10:26:27 <Bugpowder>	in a hole
Jan 16 10:26:33 <Bugpowder>	if there was negative return in a month
Jan 16 10:27:09 <thestringpuller>	like the month the mpoe bot was subjected to inside trading
Jan 16 10:27:14 <EskimoBob>	income, not div
Jan 16 10:27:15 <Bugpowder>	dividend is calculated based on total profits since last payout.  no payout if no dividend
Jan 16 10:27:18 <thestringpuller>	and bondholders lost money
Jan 16 10:27:22 <Bugpowder>	no payout if no profit
Jan 16 10:27:29 <EskimoBob>	obviously
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Jan 16 10:27:40 <EskimoBob>	no profit, no div
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Jan 16 10:27:45 <Bugpowder>	right
Jan 16 10:28:13 <thestringpuller>	dice is like the btc version of a lottery then
Jan 16 10:28:22 <thestringpuller>	if it is always expected to profit
Jan 16 10:28:42 <xza>	thestringpuller: hwo do you know it's not happening every day? (inside trading)
Jan 16 10:29:24 <EskimoBob>	OK; now I see why Bugpowder's txt started to look "strange"
Jan 16 10:29:26 <thestringpuller>	mpoe lost more than the combined profits of mpbor
Jan 16 10:29:27 <EskimoBob>	lol
Jan 16 10:29:37 <thestringpuller>	in the month of august
Jan 16 10:29:51 <xza>	examine your ignore list EskimoBob :)
Jan 16 10:30:18 <EskimoBob>	it's fine ;)
Jan 16 10:31:33 <xza>	mpoe is a really strange name
Jan 16 10:32:49 <EskimoBob>	strange? This narcissistic fuck adds his silly name to everything :)
Jan 16 10:33:25 <xza>	lol
Jan 16 10:34:02 <gigavps>	good morning
Jan 16 10:34:42 <EskimoBob>	good morning dear
Jan 16 10:37:00 <gigavps>	i hope everyone is having a lovely day
Jan 16 10:39:52 <EskimoBob>	try polar night, gigavps
Jan 16 10:40:26 <gigavps>	lol, it's 80f here
Jan 16 10:40:37 <gigavps>	i'm in shorts and a teeshirt
Jan 16 10:40:50 <jcpham>	cold front on the way
Jan 16 10:40:53 <xza>	-12C but will be -28C on weekend
Jan 16 10:40:56 <jcpham>	heat pump onthe fritz
Jan 16 10:41:04 <gigavps>	uh oh
Jan 16 10:41:11 <jcpham>	working from home
Jan 16 10:41:12 <EskimoBob>	same shit
Jan 16 10:41:16 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 16 10:41:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.45001, Best ask: 14.47999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last trade: 14.47999, 24 hour volume: 38390.50736602, 24 hour low: 14.15850, 24 hour high: 14.51000, 24 hour vwap: 14.35733
Jan 16 10:41:19 <jcpham>	waiting on the repairman
Jan 16 10:41:22 <Bugpowder>	booya
Jan 16 10:41:27 <EskimoBob>	getting colder fast
Jan 16 10:41:27 <jcpham>	compressor sounds like seized motor
Jan 16 10:41:28 <Bugpowder>	14.51
Jan 16 10:41:43 <EskimoBob>	soon -28 to -30C
Jan 16 10:41:44 <jcpham>	high-side of compessor is burning to touch
Jan 16 10:41:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9590 @ 0.00474 = 45.4566 BTC [-]
Jan 16 10:41:59 <jcpham>	gigavps does it ever get cold their
Jan 16 10:42:03 <jcpham>	*there
Jan 16 10:42:15 <jcpham>	i've never been to florida in the winter iirc
Jan 16 10:42:26 <gigavps>	it got into the 50s a couple weeks ago
Jan 16 10:42:31 <EskimoBob>	must be freezing :)
Jan 16 10:42:40 <gigavps>	but i could go swimming on a day like today
Jan 16 10:42:47 <jcpham>	sucks because most of my bad weather comes from that direction
Jan 16 10:42:57 <jcpham>	cold front, warm front
Jan 16 10:43:00 <EskimoBob>	-18.4F
Jan 16 10:43:02 <jcpham>	rinse and repeat
Jan 16 10:43:10 <gigavps>	lol, like hurricanes
Jan 16 10:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00474637 = 2.0504 BTC [+]
Jan 16 10:43:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550 @ 0.00474639 = 12.1033 BTC [+]
Jan 16 10:43:21 <gigavps>	EskimoBob that is redonkulous
Jan 16 10:43:34 <gigavps>	no wonder you have Eskimo in your handle
Jan 16 10:43:48 <Bugpowder>	fairbanks?
Jan 16 10:43:50 <gigavps>	and here i thought you were being cheeky
Jan 16 10:44:36 <EskimoBob>	seen -40F too
Jan 16 10:44:52 <EskimoBob>	not my favorite temp to be honest
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Jan 16 10:45:39 <Bugpowder>	crossover point
Jan 16 10:45:43 <Bugpowder>	so you are not in fairbanks
Jan 16 10:45:52 <Bugpowder>	you are in some nice a mild climate compared to there
Jan 16 10:46:34 <gigavps>	Bugpowder you talkin to me?
Jan 16 10:46:41 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 16 10:46:44 <Bugpowder>	eskino
Jan 16 10:47:01 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: Alaska Fairbanks? The summer camp?
Jan 16 10:47:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 10:48:18 <Bugpowder>	gigavps you are probably poolside
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Jan 16 10:49:52 <gigavps>	close
Jan 16 10:50:31 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: yes, it is mild. We can have temperature swings of 148F (64C) in less than 5 month period.
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Jan 16 10:51:29 <Bugpowder>	Nikki Beach
Jan 16 10:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3400 @ 0.00482168 = 16.3937 BTC [+]
Jan 16 11:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 18 @ 0.00475777 = 0.0856 BTC [-]
Jan 16 11:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00474004 = 2.0477 BTC [-]
Jan 16 11:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00474 = 2.133 BTC [-]
Jan 16 11:06:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00475788 = 2.0554 BTC [+]
Jan 16 11:06:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00475792 = 7.1369 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 11:19:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00482168 = 6.2682 BTC [+]
Jan 16 11:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1624 @ 0.00482656 = 7.8383 BTC [+]
Jan 16 11:20:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 100 @ 0.0975 = 9.75 BTC [-]
Jan 16 11:20:54 <Schadenfreude>	jurov: I canceled on of my coinbr orders, its status is 'manual' with the btc not credited yet, what's up with that?
Jan 16 11:22:40 <jurov>	Schadenfreude, looking into that...
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Jan 16 11:29:13 <Ukto>	manual? did you read it? :P j/k
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Jan 16 11:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 68 @ 0.00475797 = 0.3235 BTC [-]
Jan 16 11:32:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 652 @ 0.00475237 = 3.0985 BTC [-]
Jan 16 11:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 530 @ 0.00474 = 2.5122 BTC [-]
Jan 16 11:35:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 301 @ 0.00482656 = 1.4528 BTC [+]
Jan 16 11:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1841 @ 0.00484562 = 8.9208 BTC [+]
Jan 16 11:38:18 <jurov>	'manual' means there's snafu and admin should fix it (we get a notification, too)
Jan 16 11:39:23 <jurov>	sometimes that monkey we have here for matching mpex orders just gives up :P
Jan 16 11:41:10 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 16 11:41:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.51471, Best ask: 14.54000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02529, Last trade: 14.54000, 24 hour volume: 37409.22540529, 24 hour low: 14.15850, 24 hour high: 14.54000, 24 hour vwap: 14.37244
Jan 16 11:42:06 <Bugpowder>	15.545
Jan 16 11:42:10 <Bugpowder>	14.545
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Jan 16 11:46:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 525 @ 0.00478213 = 2.5106 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 11:52:17 <jurov>	Bugpowder, https://github.com/jurov/pyMPEx
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Jan 16 11:52:51 <jurov>	very quick version, it asks confirmation for all commands, with BUY/SELL/WITHDRAW shows also BTC amount
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Jan 16 11:53:23 <Bugpowder>	sweet.  I will incorporate into my version
Jan 16 11:53:50 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 16 11:53:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.52202, Best ask: 14.59900, Bid-ask spread: 0.07698, Last trade: 14.59900, 24 hour volume: 38173.79747892, 24 hour low: 14.15850, 24 hour high: 14.59900, 24 hour vwap: 14.37755
Jan 16 11:54:09 <Bugpowder>	here comes 14.72
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Jan 16 12:05:23 <smickles>	!!!
Jan 16 12:05:31 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SAS-in-good-standing.png
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Jan 16 12:16:05 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you still around i got your email
Jan 16 12:17:02 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yes, i'm here. I'll be filing for licenses soon :D
Jan 16 12:17:14 <thestringpuller>	sweer
Jan 16 12:17:28 <thestringpuller>	can i use your business services soon?!? :)
Jan 16 12:17:45 <jurov>	added few more goodies to pimpex - option to use gpg- agent, option to disable prompt
Jan 16 12:19:17 <smickles>	thestringpuller: yes, I believe I can legally begin doing business once I get a city business license :D
Jan 16 12:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00065412 = 3.2706 BTC [+]
Jan 16 12:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065413 = 0.6541 BTC [+]
Jan 16 12:19:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00065414 = 2.4857 BTC [+]
Jan 16 12:22:36 <jurov>	Bugpowder, is it okay? my addy: 1D7JQMhZ3R1uqpcwkSH7RmradQLNZHUuSV
Jan 16 12:26:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00474002 = 2.0477 BTC [-]
Jan 16 12:26:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00474001 = 11.376 BTC [-]
Jan 16 12:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 368 @ 0.00474 = 1.7443 BTC [-]
Jan 16 12:30:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12186 @ 0.00065135 = 7.9374 BTC [-]
Jan 16 12:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11564 @ 0.00064635 = 7.4744 BTC [-]
Jan 16 12:35:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.33 = 1.98 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 12:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.00474968 = 2.0519 BTC [+]
Jan 16 12:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1568 @ 0.00474971 = 7.4475 BTC [+]
Jan 16 12:41:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16219 @ 0.00064635 = 10.4832 BTC [-]
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Jan 16 12:45:09 <thestringpuller>	"Merchant shipping in the 1600's was quite profitable you could make 300% on your investment..._if_...the boat came back..." - OH in lecture today.
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Jan 16 12:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00474971 = 10.6868 BTC [+]
Jan 16 12:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00065414 = 13.7696 BTC [+]
Jan 16 12:54:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15708 @ 0.00065438 = 10.279 BTC [+]
Jan 16 12:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3242 @ 0.00066181 = 2.1456 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 13:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3094 @ 0.00474971 = 14.6956 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:02:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1225 @ 0.00476367 = 5.8355 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.48 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Jan 16 13:18:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 259 @ 0.00484562 = 1.255 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00485855 = 5.1015 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:21:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 589 @ 0.00489624 = 2.8839 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:24:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.17 = 0.85 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:24:36 <jurov>	okay, it's now quite complete: https://github.com/jurov/pyMPEx
Jan 16 13:24:57 <jurov>	added gpg-agent support and rudimentary logging
Jan 16 13:25:18 <Bugpowder>	what is gpg-agent?
Jan 16 13:25:48 <jurov>	it remembers the gpg password for you
Jan 16 13:25:55 <jurov>	so you don't have to type it every time
Jan 16 13:26:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3561 @ 0.0047584 = 16.9447 BTC [-]
Jan 16 13:26:20 <Bugpowder>	yessss
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Jan 16 13:26:46 <Bugpowder>	what's your bitcoin address?
Jan 16 13:27:11 <jurov>	1D7JQMhZ3R1uqpcwkSH7RmradQLNZHUuSV
Jan 16 13:27:51 <kakobrekla>	what did i miss
Jan 16 13:28:30 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 16 13:29:45 <jurov>	pimped up pympex
Jan 16 13:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00494808 = 2.9688 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 976 @ 0.00494809 = 4.8293 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:31:42 <Bugpowder>	s.dice askwall gone
Jan 16 13:31:48 <Namworld>	fuck... and no one port it to Windows
Jan 16 13:31:53 <Bugpowder>	fatfingered a dump of s.dice
Jan 16 13:31:56 <Namworld>	to port it*
Jan 16 13:32:06 <Bugpowder>	jurov fixed pympex so I don't do that again
Jan 16 13:32:15 <Bugpowder>	BTC hit 14.689
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Jan 16 13:34:42 <jurov>	Azelphur: https://github.com/Azelphur/pyMPEx/pull/3
Jan 16 13:35:02 <Azelphur>	oO, things
Jan 16 13:37:54 <jurov>	Bugpowder, didn't you say 5BTC?
Jan 16 13:38:26 <Bugpowder>	yah i sent another
Jan 16 13:38:37 <jurov>	;;rated Bugpowder
Jan 16 13:38:38 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user Bugpowder
Jan 16 13:38:56 <jurov>	;;rate Bugpowder 1 funded pyMPEx development
Jan 16 13:38:57 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Bugpowder has been recorded.
Jan 16 13:39:45 <Bugpowder>	tx
Jan 16 13:40:09 <Azelphur>	jurov: oh hey cool, you've added support for using the agent so people don' thave to type the password every time
Jan 16 13:40:12 <Azelphur>	didn't know the library supported that :D
Jan 16 13:41:27 <Azelphur>	have merged it
Jan 16 13:43:19 <jurov>	thx :)
Jan 16 13:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00490557 = 10.0564 BTC [-]
Jan 16 13:43:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.0048777 = 0.7317 BTC [-]
Jan 16 13:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.0048777 = 8.7799 BTC [-]
Jan 16 13:45:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00486436 = 0.9729 BTC [-]
Jan 16 13:46:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 9 @ 0.95 = 8.55 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:48:07 <smickles>	quick, someone send a test email to smickles@smickles.com
Jan 16 13:48:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1424 @ 0.00494809 = 7.0461 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 576 @ 0.0049481 = 2.8501 BTC [+]
Jan 16 13:49:27 <Namworld>	argh, I can't get that damn thing ported to windows or python on windows either
Jan 16 13:49:45 <kakobrekla>	smickles sent
Jan 16 13:50:29 <Namworld>	I can't get python gpg specifically. Says python installation is not found in registry
Jan 16 13:50:42 <Namworld>	yet I've installed it =/
Jan 16 13:51:12 <smickles>	kakobrekla: thanks, it worked :D
Jan 16 13:52:08 <jurov>	Execute 'WITHDRAW|test|5000000000', 5E+1BTC (y/n)? lol the formatting needs some fix
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Jan 16 13:53:07 <gigavps>	Namworld it's official, VPS has its first Teraminer
Jan 16 13:53:15 <Bugpowder>	wut?
Jan 16 13:53:18 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 16 13:53:20 <Bugpowder>	signup
Jan 16 13:53:22 <Bugpowder>	not cip
Jan 16 13:53:23 <Bugpowder>	chiup
Jan 16 13:53:25 <Bugpowder>	chip
Jan 16 13:53:29 <Bugpowder>	right?
Jan 16 13:53:36 <gigavps>	huh
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Jan 16 13:53:49 <Bugpowder>	you have a teramining rig?
Jan 16 13:53:57 <Bugpowder>	or a teramining investor?
Jan 16 13:54:01 <gigavps>	no rigs yet
Jan 16 13:54:14 <gigavps>	first official upgrade
Jan 16 13:54:38 <gigavps>	according to the new contract / terms
Jan 16 13:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.00490863 = 13.2533 BTC [-]
Jan 16 13:55:29 <Bugpowder>	jurov, works great!
Jan 16 13:55:33 <Bugpowder>	thanks again.
Jan 16 13:56:16 <Bugpowder>	stoked about the autologger
Jan 16 13:56:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3450 @ 0.0049481 = 17.0709 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 14:04:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00486436 = 10.7016 BTC [-]
Jan 16 14:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 401 @ 0.0048577 = 1.9479 BTC [-]
Jan 16 14:05:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 72 @ 0.0049481 = 0.3563 BTC [+]
Jan 16 14:05:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3078 @ 0.00496329 = 15.277 BTC [+]
Jan 16 14:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2633 @ 0.00496329 = 13.0683 BTC [+]
Jan 16 14:06:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2240 @ 0.00497373 = 11.1412 BTC [+]
Jan 16 14:06:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00498008 = 4.9801 BTC [+]
Jan 16 14:06:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00498009 = 5.4781 BTC [+]
Jan 16 14:06:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.00499 = 0.2994 BTC [+]
Jan 16 14:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 21 @ 0.95 = 19.95 BTC [+]
Jan 16 14:09:58 <jurov>	pushed fix for these pesky decimals, you can apply if you want
Jan 16 14:10:35 <jurov>	perhaps floats would be enough for this. but i'm used to avoid them like plague :D
Jan 16 14:10:47 <jcpham>	got my heat fixed
Jan 16 14:10:50 <jcpham>	like a boss
Jan 16 14:12:02 <jurov>	jcpham, how? got milk?
Jan 16 14:12:10 <Namworld>	fuck...
Jan 16 14:12:27 <Namworld>	damn python gpg doesn't want to install... wtf
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Jan 16 14:16:18 <Namworld>	RRRAAAAHHH
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Jan 16 14:18:28 <Namworld>	ok, pyMPEx is just unusable on Windows
Jan 16 14:20:02 <jurov>	try the perl one :D
Jan 16 14:21:38 <Namworld>	does it have the same features?
Jan 16 14:22:17 <Namworld>	and why would perl work anyway
Jan 16 14:23:47 <jurov>	never tried it and looks likethe link is dead... mod6, you around?
Jan 16 14:24:36 <jurov>	maybe someone should get angry and write it straight in C/C++ ...
Jan 16 14:24:51 <jurov>	the only truly multiplatform lang
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Jan 16 14:30:27 <Namworld>	yeah...
Jan 16 14:31:35 <Namworld>	I can't import installed modules on windows...
Jan 16 14:31:42 <Namworld>	when using python scripts
Jan 16 14:33:09 <EskimoBob>	why isn't anyone buying this shit on bitfunder at those prices
Jan 16 14:33:34 <Namworld>	which one?
Jan 16 14:34:33 <EskimoBob>	out of those 4 garbage piles "listed", 2 are traded and one will be deleted... this leaves S.DICE
Jan 16 14:34:45 <EskimoBob>	:)
Jan 16 14:35:50 <EskimoBob>	listed on popescu bazaar
Jan 16 14:36:16 <EskimoBob>	if that was unclear :)
Jan 16 14:36:32 <smickles>	EskimoBob: G.SDICE should trade at a 5% discount to S.DICE
Jan 16 14:37:49 <smickles>	;;calc .00499*.95
Jan 16 14:37:49 <gribble>	0.0047405
Jan 16 14:38:33 <smickles>	so if there is a way to move it form deadterra to mpex, prolly for a fee
Jan 16 14:39:12 <EskimoBob>	smickles: you mean div -5% ?
Jan 16 14:40:01 <smickles>	;;calc .004705 - (.00044)
Jan 16 14:40:03 <gribble>	0.004265
Jan 16 14:40:17 <EskimoBob>	I have no idea what the last divs where
Jan 16 14:40:29 <EskimoBob>	per share
Jan 16 14:40:39 <smickles>	i feel like it's fairly well spot on at bitfunder if deadterra were to charge a 1% fee to transfer out of the passthru
Jan 16 14:41:19 <EskimoBob>	the div per share was what?
Jan 16 14:41:29 <smickles>	one sec
Jan 16 14:41:38 <smickles>	you mean just tis last one?
Jan 16 14:42:30 <EskimoBob>	yes
Jan 16 14:43:04 <smickles>	about 0.0000344 per share if i'm doing it correctly
Jan 16 14:43:19 <EskimoBob>	OK, thax I did not find it from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.0
Jan 16 14:43:47 <EskimoBob>	;;calc 0.0000344*0.05
Jan 16 14:43:47 <gribble>	1.72e-06
Jan 16 14:44:19 <smickles>	oh wait, i think i was off my a digit
Jan 16 14:45:19 <EskimoBob>	what ever it was, DIV PER SHARE - 5% is the "ideal" price difference
Jan 16 14:45:32 <smickles>	1720~ paid to 10000000 shares
Jan 16 14:45:38 <smickles>	;;calc 1720/10000000
Jan 16 14:45:39 <gribble>	0.000172
Jan 16 14:45:59 <EskimoBob>	;;calc 0.000172*0.05
Jan 16 14:46:00 <gribble>	8.6e-06
Jan 16 14:46:29 <EskimoBob>	lol, mireceas obsession with tiny numbers is funny
Jan 16 14:47:35 <EskimoBob>	I guess 100 000 000 000  shares of nothing gives this impotent asshat a tingling feeling where his dick used to be
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Jan 16 14:51:19 <pigeons>	mommy he's an angry eskimo!
Jan 16 14:55:11 <EskimoBob>	lol pigeons, he is not worth the effort to be angry at
Jan 16 14:56:12 <EskimoBob>	just another lowlife nobody in btc world
Jan 16 14:57:19 <Namworld>	Seems like you're not happy about S.BVPS being delisted?
Jan 16 14:57:29 <kakobrekla>	is anyone happy about that?
Jan 16 14:57:36 <Namworld>	No
Jan 16 14:57:40 <jcpham>	hrm
Jan 16 14:57:50 <jcpham>	why was it delisted
Jan 16 14:57:54 <Namworld>	Well maybe my partners
Jan 16 14:58:03 <kakobrekla>	Cool!
Jan 16 14:58:06 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: I have few shares of that crap.
Jan 16 14:58:17 <Namworld>	Multiple breaches of contract
Jan 16 14:58:25 <Namworld>	Is what caused it to be delisted.
Jan 16 14:58:35 <kakobrekla>	EskimoBob, seems everything that is crap you own a few shares.
Jan 16 14:59:05 <EskimoBob>	yeah, sdice, bvps
Jan 16 14:59:07 <jcpham>	can someone link me to the original contract
Jan 16 14:59:15 <Namworld>	To start with, lack of financial statements I suppose. Then rg selling his interest in BitVPS
Jan 16 14:59:15 <jcpham>	i suspected this might happen tbh
Jan 16 14:59:29 <Namworld>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BVPS
Jan 16 14:59:35 <Namworld>	It's still there for now...
Jan 16 14:59:35 <jcpham>	i haven't read the contract in many months
Jan 16 14:59:42 <kakobrekla>	it doesnt change
Jan 16 14:59:43 <EskimoBob>	so what is the point in fucking over all the other shareholders?
Jan 16 15:00:02 <EskimoBob>	just halt trading and let this shit be sorted out
Jan 16 15:00:28 <Namworld>	I don't see why everyone would be fucked... or how halting trades would change anything.
Jan 16 15:00:39 <EskimoBob>	But no, pompous little fuck pulls a date out of his hairy ars, posts some crap on his egomaniacal blog, where he keeps jerking off to the sound of his own voice, and that's it.
Jan 16 15:01:23 <jcpham>	so you do not like mircea_popescu
Jan 16 15:01:27 <jcpham>	i get that
Jan 16 15:01:58 <kakobrekla>	but he likes nefario or smth :>
Jan 16 15:02:29 <Namworld>	A list of key+shares will be given to rg
Jan 16 15:02:57 <Namworld>	He can pass that to us and we'll take care of it from then on.
Jan 16 15:03:16 <EskimoBob>	to rg? This guy who sold his share?
Jan 16 15:03:25 <EskimoBob>	wtf will he do with that ?
Jan 16 15:03:45 <Namworld>	Give it to me
Jan 16 15:04:20 <Namworld>	rg is gone, he just gave BitVPS away to me, arij and phungus
Jan 16 15:04:21 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: ? Nefario? Why do you say I like him? Never mind :)
Jan 16 15:04:43 <Namworld>	But we still talk a bit with him from time to time.
Jan 16 15:04:56 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: if this is so, why don you guys work something out and but the shares back
Jan 16 15:05:23 <jcpham>	because it is profitable
Jan 16 15:05:27 <jcpham>	*isn't
Jan 16 15:05:39 <EskimoBob>	kick taht pompous shit under his skirt and tell him to chill
Jan 16 15:06:14 <EskimoBob>	or are you a thieve?
Jan 16 15:06:30 <EskimoBob>	or are you planning to relist?
Jan 16 15:06:34 <jcpham>	It isn't his agreement to honor
Jan 16 15:06:45 <EskimoBob>	relist somewhere else
Jan 16 15:06:52 <Namworld>	We might just do that or relist. Or both, depending on what each holder wants.
Jan 16 15:07:02 <Namworld>	Buyback some, relist the rest.
Jan 16 15:07:15 <jcpham>	i'm glad you are taking care of it Namworld
Jan 16 15:07:16 <EskimoBob>	can you please make a statement in the bitcointalk?
Jan 16 15:07:22 <jcpham>	i'd like to see bitvps succeed
Jan 16 15:07:25 <Namworld>	I'll have to be discuss with arij & phungus
Jan 16 15:07:34 <EskimoBob>	cool
Jan 16 15:07:35 <Namworld>	I'll have to discuss*
Jan 16 15:07:40 <EskimoBob>	do that and let us know
Jan 16 15:07:43 <Namworld>	I'll make an announcement for now.
Jan 16 15:07:58 <EskimoBob>	excellent
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Jan 16 15:08:28 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: and please, leave mpex :)
Jan 16 15:08:40 <Namworld>	... no
Jan 16 15:08:57 <Namworld>	S.DICE is on there
Jan 16 15:09:06 <EskimoBob>	hopefully one day you will realize it was a good advice, Namworld
Jan 16 15:09:56 <EskimoBob>	LOL, "Namworld | S.DICE is on there"
Jan 16 15:10:22 <Namworld>	eh, but I like S.DICE
Jan 16 15:10:25 <jcpham>	You forget that the pornographer Mircea Popescu is friend with the rapist, check before posting.
Jan 16 15:10:34 <jcpham>	^ these forum quotes are harsh man
Jan 16 15:10:49 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: ciuciu?
Jan 16 15:10:56 <jcpham>	yeah
Jan 16 15:12:08 <EskimoBob>	but lets be honest, you call yourself a rapist then what do you expect? Trust?
Jan 16 15:12:48 <jcpham>	true sory
Jan 16 15:12:54 <Namworld>	No, it's the Rap eGhost...
Jan 16 15:13:01 <EskimoBob>	sure
Jan 16 15:13:19 <jcpham>	it's also a robot chicken referece if you are unfamiliar
Jan 16 15:13:22 <Namworld>	Okay, it's whatever you want it to be then
Jan 16 15:13:25 <jcpham>	check the youtubes
Jan 16 15:13:32 <EskimoBob>	it's written "rapeghost"
Jan 16 15:14:01 <EskimoBob>	Rap is crap
Jan 16 15:14:14 <dub>	or a friendly eskimo with tourettes
Jan 16 15:14:48 <dub>	ohhai buffer
Jan 16 15:15:36 <EskimoBob>	anyways, I hope you guys (Namworld) handle this cluster fuck professionally.
Jan 16 15:16:42 <Namworld>	Should be.
Jan 16 15:17:24 <Namworld>	Plus since everyone using MPEx already use gpg, signing to confirm their key shouldn't be a problem either
Jan 16 15:17:43 <dub>	I think possibly alcoholic eskimo
Jan 16 15:19:01 <dub>	methskimo even
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Jan 16 15:20:33 <dub>	its a little sad tbh
Jan 16 15:21:38 <dub>	all that quality usagi trolling, now he's regressed into a rambling paranoid old lunatic barking at traffic
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Jan 16 15:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00503208 = 2.516 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:30:22 <EskimoBob>	dub: talking about yourself? Keep talking, this will help you get over that ugly incident you had at age 4
Jan 16 15:33:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00503208 = 1.0064 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00503209 = 8.5546 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:35:02 <EskimoBob>	;;calc 0.00503209/1.05
Jan 16 15:35:03 <gribble>	0.00479246666667
Jan 16 15:35:06 <dub>	ah the age old classic 'i know you are you said you are' touche
Jan 16 15:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 645 @ 0.00500542 = 3.2285 BTC [-]
Jan 16 15:39:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 522 @ 0.00503209 = 2.6268 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:39:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00505291 = 5.0529 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1428 @ 0.0050749 = 7.247 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:40:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.17 = 0.85 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:46:51 <dub>	heh micon is like a slightly smarter version of EskimoBob
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Jan 16 15:47:55 <gigavps>	dub i wouldn't give micon so much credit
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Jan 16 15:53:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1353 @ 0.0050205 = 6.7927 BTC [-]
Jan 16 15:54:08 <dub>	heh https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136842.0
Jan 16 15:54:13 <mircea_popescu>	ahh, what's new ?
Jan 16 15:54:29 <dub>	ciuciu is apparently waiting for pirate to pay out before he refunds his 'investors'
Jan 16 15:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	sweet lol
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Jan 16 15:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> EskimoBob, seems everything that is crap you own a few shares. << virtuaally lol
Jan 16 15:57:30 <mircea_popescu>	<jcpham> i'm glad you are taking care of it Namworld << to his credit he did buy a bunch of shares while they were trying to acquire.
Jan 16 15:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3272 @ 0.0050749 = 16.6051 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:58:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 278 @ 0.00509359 = 1.416 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 15:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5622 @ 0.00509359 = 28.6362 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:59:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1282 @ 0.00510357 = 6.5428 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:59:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00512318 = 5.1232 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:59:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 947 @ 0.00512319 = 4.8517 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.0051247 = 2.3061 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 699 @ 0.0051655 = 3.6107 BTC [+]
Jan 16 15:59:59 <jcpham>	it seems to me the new bitvps owners are at least attempting to rectify the situation
Jan 16 16:00:08 <jcpham>	although contractually i'd say they have none
Jan 16 16:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0051655 = 0.2583 BTC [+]
Jan 16 16:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1899 @ 0.00517905 = 9.835 BTC [+]
Jan 16 16:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 451 @ 0.00519571 = 2.3433 BTC [+]
Jan 16 16:01:27 <jcpham>	or my non-professional opinion is that rg's name is on the contract
Jan 16 16:01:33 <kakobrekla>	sdice asks = empty
Jan 16 16:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 16 16:03:50 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 16 16:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 16 16:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00454703 / 0.00476762 / 0.0052 (1079068 shares, 5,144.59 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00470128 / 0.0052 (2783896 shares, 13,087.89 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00371882 / 0.0052 (11843686 shares, 44,044.55 BTC)
Jan 16 16:04:28 <mircea_popescu>	teh whoa.
Jan 16 16:04:38 <jurov>	jcpham, how exactly do they attempt?
Jan 16 16:05:05 <jurov>	namworld came here only after i got to #bitvps and told  them their PR is fail
Jan 16 16:05:27 <jcpham>	if they are considering or entertaining the idea
Jan 16 16:05:35 <jcpham>	that's close to an attempt
Jan 16 16:05:36 <jurov>	i seriously suspect they're completely inept in this
Jan 16 16:05:43 <jcpham>	i see
Jan 16 16:06:04 <jcpham>	they probably need help tbh
Jan 16 16:06:51 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i don't imagine they really groked the complexities of running a public company going in
Jan 16 16:07:20 <jcpham>	i mentioned it some time ago
Jan 16 16:07:25 <jcpham>	the complications at least
Jan 16 16:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00516915 = 15.5075 BTC [-]
Jan 16 16:07:39 <jcpham>	specifically the mpex contract
Jan 16 16:08:13 <mircea_popescu>	i honestly thought that the listing is probably bvps' largest asset. there is such a thing as a reverse ipo for instance.
Jan 16 16:08:37 <Bugpowder>	yeah its free advertising
Jan 16 16:08:49 <Bugpowder>	I new something was wrong when they delayed the divvy
Jan 16 16:08:54 <Bugpowder>	bailed
Jan 16 16:09:08 <jcpham>	i do not know the particulars but it does no one is doing the accounting
Jan 16 16:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder actually the 14th extra dividend was in fact acquisition cash payment as per the contract
Jan 16 16:09:16 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 16 16:09:17 <mircea_popescu>	which never got signed 0.0
Jan 16 16:09:19 <jcpham>	in which case mircea_popescu really should delist
Jan 16 16:09:27 <jcpham>	*does seem
Jan 16 16:09:31 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: do you know what happens in the real world when listed Co's large shareholder sells his shares to another large investor?
Jan 16 16:09:40 <Bugpowder>	I ment the 09-12-12 divvy
Jan 16 16:09:43 <Bugpowder>	which was late
Jan 16 16:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	o that. ya
Jan 16 16:09:47 <jcpham>	this isn't te real world
Jan 16 16:09:57 <Bugpowder>	started thinking... hmm... isn't this a company run by a 22 year old
Jan 16 16:09:59 <jcpham>	i mean i get it that you want it to be
Jan 16 16:10:05 <Bugpowder>	maybe I should move to the bluechips
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Jan 16 16:10:07 <jcpham>	it would be great if it were
Jan 16 16:10:16 <EskimoBob>	this is not what I asked you
Jan 16 16:10:28 <jcpham>	no please teach me
Jan 16 16:10:31 <mircea_popescu>	the problem here is that you never really know what to do. i mean, if you insta-wipe any company that's late with divs/misses a report date you will end up causing a lot of grief for legitimate shareholders
Jan 16 16:10:41 <EskimoBob>	hold on, it's all imaginary ... let me mediate and make it right
Jan 16 16:10:46 <mircea_popescu>	if you don't, there's always going to be this lead-up string. first it misses X. then a little more. then a little more still.
Jan 16 16:10:50 <EskimoBob>	done
Jan 16 16:10:59 <EskimoBob>	oops... it's not imaginary
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Jan 16 16:11:13 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, that would be a sign of a failing company, no?
Jan 16 16:11:20 <jcpham>	i never actually used the word imaginary...
Jan 16 16:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek or of someone who fell and broke a leg.
Jan 16 16:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 99 @ 0.00519571 = 0.5144 BTC [+]
Jan 16 16:11:42 *	EskimoBob yawns
Jan 16 16:12:10 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, either way, if the asset was lagging in that manner, it doesn't seem like a sound investment
Jan 16 16:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	i agree.
Jan 16 16:12:27 <Bugpowder>	also the server downtime
Jan 16 16:12:30 <Bugpowder>	bad sign
Jan 16 16:12:34 <Bugpowder>	for a vps co
Jan 16 16:12:35 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, at least not until it catches up and starts posting prompt reports
Jan 16 16:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	which opens up another can of worms : it was a realtively small asset (3k mkt cap or so)
Jan 16 16:12:42 <Bugpowder>	to be down for over a day
Jan 16 16:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	small assets are a lot more prone to neglect.
Jan 16 16:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	not allowing them creates this very unfair field for many people.
Jan 16 16:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	what to do, what to do.
Jan 16 16:12:56 <nyRednek>	wait, we can buy securities here?
Jan 16 16:13:08 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder yes, that. for sure.
Jan 16 16:13:20 <EskimoBob>	I took this aashat of the ignore because I want to read this crap for lulz
Jan 16 16:13:45 <Bugpowder>	NYSE doesn't list pink sheets
Jan 16 16:13:58 <nyRednek>	!help
Jan 16 16:13:59 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 16 16:14:00 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 16 16:14:14 <Bugpowder>	let bitfunder do the OTTBB style companies
Jan 16 16:14:27 <EskimoBob>	keep going mircea, you are as delusional and full of shit as ever
Jan 16 16:14:47 <dub>	personally I wouldnt touch a vps/hosting startup with EskimoBob's
Jan 16 16:14:56 <dub>	nothing to be made in that market
Jan 16 16:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	Buglouse in april there wasn;t someone like mpex to create a downmarket for the half dozen or so smaller exchanges
Jan 16 16:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	consequently, they didn't really exist.
Jan 16 16:15:45 <EskimoBob>	dub: talk to yourself. You add no value at all
Jan 16 16:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, i am creating the solutions, just, it's a little slow.
Jan 16 16:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	bah i mean Bugpowder
Jan 16 16:16:22 <dub>	take a look at WHT, the margins are tiny
Jan 16 16:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	dub i agree it's a tough racket.
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Jan 16 16:17:07 <dub>	sure accepting bitcoin is somethign different but just stick a bitpay checkout on any of the thousands of reseller options
Jan 16 16:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	but i don't think it's really the exchange's job to do that sort of filtering.
Jan 16 16:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00066181 = 2.2171 BTC [+]
Jan 16 16:17:25 <dub>	actually building it, just because you know linux and stuff, is silly
Jan 16 16:17:38 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, is mpex your site?
Jan 16 16:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	i think rg was living  off of it
Jan 16 16:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek yes. hence MP Ex
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Jan 16 16:18:36 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, you might want to get someone with web design experience on staff...it's not exactly navigable or pleasing to the eye
Jan 16 16:18:51 <mircea_popescu>	i think you're a little late to that party.
Jan 16 16:18:52 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 16 16:18:55 <jcpham>	definitely css
Jan 16 16:19:18 <EskimoBob>	nyRednek: it's for blind people
Jan 16 16:19:28 <Bugpowder>	ROR
Jan 16 16:19:42 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, this is my first day seeing it
Jan 16 16:19:49 <EskimoBob>	he can not have a good looking web site, it will make him look ugly
Jan 16 16:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	i can appreicate that. but it's been in business for a while you realise.
Jan 16 16:20:29 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, i still recommend you pay someone to make it useable
Jan 16 16:20:47 <EskimoBob>	nyRednek: ask him about the porn site he runs of that same server and domain name
Jan 16 16:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	problem is, this is my first day seeing you. why does your recommendation carry weight with me ?
Jan 16 16:21:06 <EskimoBob>	OK, here we go
Jan 16 16:21:35 <FabianB>	nyRednek: nice webinterface and broker for mpex: https://coinbr.com/ref?c=P55Hgmfdv2
Jan 16 16:21:42 <EskimoBob>	pompous fuck mircea_popescu feels threatened and starts to show how important he thinks he is
Jan 16 16:21:55 <nyRednek>	because i'm a potential customer, maybe? because i'm not going to spend a dime buying stocks on a site that looks like it was thrown together in one's sleep?
Jan 16 16:22:21 <jcpham>	i think the brokerage avenue solves the issue of ui nicely
Jan 16 16:22:45 <EskimoBob>	now mircea_popescu probably changes his tune and starts to crawl up nyRednek ass
Jan 16 16:22:53 <nyRednek>	jcpham, hence the problem...that brokerage shouldn't be needed for a professional-looking site
Jan 16 16:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek are you trying to resolve a problem of credibility or a problem of usability ?
Jan 16 16:22:57 <EskimoBob>	ok, girls, have fun, I am afk
Jan 16 16:23:04 <jcpham>	not necessarily
Jan 16 16:23:09 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, a bit of both
Jan 16 16:23:13 <jcpham>	the exchange can operate however it likes
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Jan 16 16:23:22 <jcpham>	it is up to you play by the rules of the exchange
Jan 16 16:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1939 @ 0.00526607 = 10.2109 BTC [+]
Jan 16 16:23:26 <jcpham>	 not the other way around
Jan 16 16:23:33 <dub>	voteban EskimoBob tbh
Jan 16 16:23:38 <jcpham>	the brokerage can cater to you
Jan 16 16:23:39 <nyRednek>	usability implies credibility
Jan 16 16:23:39 <dub>	0% signal
Jan 16 16:23:45 <Bugpowder_>	FML
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Jan 16 16:23:54 <Bugpowder_>	Still haven't got all the shares back I dumped
Jan 16 16:24:00 <Bugpowder_>	now we are at 526
Jan 16 16:24:03 <EskimoBob>	nyRednek: mircea_popescu is a old time spammer and porn peddler, so do your research before you "invest"
Jan 16 16:24:24 <Bugpowder_>	;;ticker
Jan 16 16:24:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.65000, Best ask: 14.71899, Bid-ask spread: 0.06899, Last trade: 14.73000, 24 hour volume: 39680.96425134, 24 hour low: 14.21001, 24 hour high: 14.73000, 24 hour vwap: 14.45482
Jan 16 16:24:44 <jcpham>	don't get me wrong i'd like a pretty mpex
Jan 16 16:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek well, maybe you should treat them separately. for what it's worth, what you call "pleasing to the eye" is, both for good theoretical reasons and proven through practice on record, a sign of poor credibility.
Jan 16 16:24:52 <Bugpowder_>	TEAR DOWN THIS WALL
Jan 16 16:24:52 <jcpham>	but it is not a requirement by any means
Jan 16 16:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	jesus, next stop 75 for sdice ?!
Jan 16 16:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	this is like, s.mpoe sort of performance wtf. UNFAIR COMPETITION
Jan 16 16:25:35 <nyRednek>	or just dump any securities i have that may be anyway linked with that exchange, considering that the site looks like it's run as a scam
Jan 16 16:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	he actually pays dividends ><
Jan 16 16:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00509371 = 5.8578 BTC [-]
Jan 16 16:26:01 <jcpham>	nyRednek i see your point
Jan 16 16:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek the site that "looks like it's run like a scam" is older than most btc scams.
Jan 16 16:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	including bitcoinica.
Jan 16 16:26:15 <jcpham>	time is the only indicator i have as a metric for scams
Jan 16 16:26:37 <jcpham>	mpex is doing good on the time metric
Jan 16 16:26:55 <nyRednek>	jcpham, how long has it been around?
Jan 16 16:27:09 <jcpham>	more than a year?
Jan 16 16:27:09 <dub>	nyRednek: considering the ease of throwing up a wordpress/bootstrap/lameCMSoftheweek its pretty hard to spot a scam on website appearance
Jan 16 16:27:14 <jcpham>	i lose track
Jan 16 16:27:23 <nyRednek>	dub, that is true
Jan 16 16:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	the options page has been trading since august 2011. the exchange was beta'd in februyary 2012
Jan 16 16:27:38 <jcpham>	so closer to 18 months now
Jan 16 16:27:40 <EskimoBob>	fuck, this crap is too funny to just close the window and leave. All the little shills are getting active too
Jan 16 16:27:48 *	EskimoBob gets a cup of tee
Jan 16 16:27:58 <jcpham>	did i just get called a shill
Jan 16 16:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 14000 @ 0.00150005 = 21.0007 BTC [-]
Jan 16 16:28:13 <nyRednek>	EskimoBob, i actually trust jcpham's opinion, considering his activity in OTC
Jan 16 16:28:15 <jcpham>	who the fuck is @ in this channel
Jan 16 16:28:19 <dub>	don't shills generally get paid, hint hint mircea_popescu
Jan 16 16:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham kakobrekla. but srsly, what's the point of kicking people ?
Jan 16 16:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	dub i pay jcpham regularly
Jan 16 16:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	in pirate bonds.
Jan 16 16:28:48 <jcpham>	ha
Jan 16 16:28:58 <jcpham>	i'll be rich i tell you
Jan 16 16:29:08 <EskimoBob>	dub: ? seriously?
Jan 16 16:29:26 <jcpham>	the real truth is that i'm an independent third party in this matter
Jan 16 16:29:33 <jcpham>	i sit in this channel for a reason though
Jan 16 16:29:34 <dub>	EskimoBob: wipe your chin dear the froth is goign to break your keyboard
Jan 16 16:30:06 <nyRednek>	jcpham, so if i buy stuff, i'll probably go the brokerage route...i can't make heads or tails of the main site
Jan 16 16:30:14 <EskimoBob>	dub: lol, you can be funny if you copy/paste someone else jokes :)
Jan 16 16:30:19 *	Fiddle2 is now known as Fiddle
Jan 16 16:30:20 <jcpham>	the faq used to have instructions
Jan 16 16:30:54 <nyRednek>	i was only remotely interested in mpex for satoshi dice stock
Jan 16 16:31:02 <jcpham>	nyRednek opening an accounts costs 30btc iirc
Jan 16 16:31:21 <jcpham>	coinbr is free-ish?
Jan 16 16:31:24 <Bugpowder_>	ish
Jan 16 16:31:25 <jcpham>	or am i wrong
Jan 16 16:31:31 <Bugpowder_>	cheaper
Jan 16 16:31:32 <EskimoBob>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.SDICE has zero activity
Jan 16 16:31:56 <jcpham>	but the short story is that i do not believe mircea_popescu to be a scammer
Jan 16 16:31:58 <jcpham>	in any way
Jan 16 16:32:03 <EskimoBob>	I was hoping to get out before this blows up
Jan 16 16:32:03 <jcpham>	for what it is worth
Jan 16 16:32:19 <Bugpowder_>	he is unlikely to be a scammer
Jan 16 16:32:26 <Bugpowder_>	but there are of course risks
Jan 16 16:32:29 <Bugpowder_>	in the game
Jan 16 16:32:40 <Bugpowder_>	that are unrelated to scamminess
Jan 16 16:32:44 <nyRednek>	jcpham, ish
Jan 16 16:32:44 <dub>	if he is its the longest con in bitcoin
Jan 16 16:33:03 <jcpham>	i wouldn't go out of my way to make introductions with strangers if i thought he was ripping people off
Jan 16 16:33:10 <dub>	or is BFL older?
Jan 16 16:33:13 <Bugpowder_>	well
Jan 16 16:33:13 <EskimoBob>	except his history is kinda crappy
Jan 16 16:33:35 <Bugpowder_>	most entertaining PR
Jan 16 16:33:35 <jurov>	nyRednek: you are welcome on coinbr, the fees are explained right on frontpage (if you care to read, ofc)
Jan 16 16:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	dub their first product announcement was spring 2012 neh ?
Jan 16 16:34:01 <jcpham>	delivered by october iirc
Jan 16 16:34:05 <jcpham>	whatever year
Jan 16 16:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	so it's not longer then :p
Jan 16 16:34:09 <dub>	when is spring?
Jan 16 16:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	like march ? i dunno
Jan 16 16:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	april, may, something like that
Jan 16 16:34:36 <jurov>	nyRednek: but now doesn't look like the best time to buy s.dice
Jan 16 16:34:38 <jcpham>	minirgs took about 6 months to materialize
Jan 16 16:34:45 <jcpham>	seems like it was 90 days past
Jan 16 16:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	they delivered like october first units neh ?
Jan 16 16:35:06 <gigavps>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1458442#msg1458442
Jan 16 16:35:15 <jcpham>	^ that guy knows
Jan 16 16:35:23 <nyRednek>	jurov, oh?
Jan 16 16:35:25 <dub>	I want to say there were taking preorders for fpgas in '11
Jan 16 16:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	dub were they ?
Jan 16 16:35:49 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps when did bfl appear ? 2011 or 2012?
Jan 16 16:35:52 <jcpham>	mybe it was 2011
Jan 16 16:35:54 <EskimoBob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1458442#msg1458442
Jan 16 16:36:15 <gigavps>	oct 2011
Jan 16 16:36:23 <nyRednek>	jurov, stock price is irrelevant to me, btw...i'm looking for divident percentage...and i can't really afford to play with pepsico and ge atm
Jan 16 16:36:23 <mircea_popescu>	so marginally later.
Jan 16 16:36:30 <jcpham>	i remember they were 90 days late because i was in #eligius when luke-jr had a dev unit
Jan 16 16:36:33 <jcpham>	or access to one
Jan 16 16:36:45 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek cost basis still matters. if you buy it at 75 you'll get about half what the ipo people got.
Jan 16 16:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	so he has a point
Jan 16 16:36:52 <jcpham>	oh crap i highlighted him
Jan 16 16:37:05 <Bugpowder_>	nyRednek capital appreciation or depreciation is likely to be more than the dividend
Jan 16 16:37:12 <Bugpowder_>	in this environment
Jan 16 16:37:19 <Bugpowder_>	historically speaking
Jan 16 16:37:28 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, true...i was looking, and it's still 0.3% dividend atm
Jan 16 16:37:30 <EskimoBob>	gigavps: so your investors via mpex got shafted?
Jan 16 16:37:33 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ course, value investing theory says that doesn't matter if you're liquid
Jan 16 16:37:34 <nyRednek>	which isn't much at all
Jan 16 16:37:45 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek per month. it's huge if compared to pepsico
Jan 16 16:38:05 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, pepsico paid out 14% this year
Jan 16 16:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	o it did ?
Jan 16 16:38:15 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, yeah
Jan 16 16:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	hm, haven't been following. my bad.
Jan 16 16:38:23 <jcpham>	mountain dew, man
Jan 16 16:38:24 <nyRednek>	14% of stock price
Jan 16 16:38:41 <jcpham>	the kids want the mountain dews
Jan 16 16:38:47 <Luke-Jr>	EskimoBob: gigavps wasn't behind the mpex "stock" IIRC
Jan 16 16:38:56 <nyRednek>	and ge is paying out 12%
Jan 16 16:39:07 <nyRednek>	much better than bonds are doing atm
Jan 16 16:39:14 <Luke-Jr>	jcpham: problem? <trollface.jpg>
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Jan 16 16:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	easy money
Jan 16 16:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	or to quote myself,
Jan 16 16:39:28 <jcpham>	i knew you'd come if i highlighted you
Jan 16 16:39:31 <jcpham>	:)
Jan 16 16:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	On the positive side, dollar denominated securities of all sorts are slated to raise indefinitely, much past the point where a freshly printed thousand dollar bill won’t suffice to pay for one of the two freshly baked loaves of bread in all of Manhattan.
Jan 16 16:39:36 <EskimoBob>	Luke-Jr: no, he sold some shares to assht mp and this sold those to investors, then deleted the shares
Jan 16 16:39:39 <Bugpowder>	Bet volume is track at around 400,000 this month
Jan 16 16:39:40 <EskimoBob>	something like that
Jan 16 16:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder is that up or down from dec ?
Jan 16 16:40:04 <EskimoBob>	Luke-Jr: mp deleted the shares
Jan 16 16:40:16 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, at the same time, those securities are rising faster than inflation
Jan 16 16:40:23 <Luke-Jr>	EskimoBob: as I understand it, mircea_popescu created a phony stock to resell GLBSE shares, then forfeited those GLBSE shares for some reason at the expense of all the MPEX phony-stock holder
Jan 16 16:40:26 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 400000*.019/100000000/.0048
Jan 16 16:40:26 <gribble>	0.0158333333333
Jan 16 16:40:37 <EskimoBob>	Luke-Jr: correct
Jan 16 16:40:40 <Bugpowder>	Down a bit
Jan 16 16:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr not quite.
Jan 16 16:40:58 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: how so?
Jan 16 16:41:01 <Bugpowder>	So we are looking at an EV of around 1.6% dividend / month based on current share price
Jan 16 16:41:06 <EskimoBob>	and now he is pulling similar shit with BVPS
Jan 16 16:41:08 <Bugpowder>	and current bet volume
Jan 16 16:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	i'm just one of the however many people not interested to deal with the newly created contract device.
Jan 16 16:41:29 <jcpham>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136882.0;topicseen
Jan 16 16:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder is jan = dec actual growth in the gambling market ?
Jan 16 16:41:38 <jcpham>	sorry unrelated
Jan 16 16:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	like in retail ?
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Jan 16 16:41:47 <Bugpowder>	1 or 2 big whales made up most of the betting volume last month, they haven't been seen seriously betting since the second.
Jan 16 16:41:49 <Bugpowder>	There has been some organic growth in a varitey of mini-whales though
Jan 16 16:42:00 <dub>	jcpham: oh god
Jan 16 16:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr i can appreciate he has no other way forward, but that still does exactly nothing for me.
Jan 16 16:42:42 <nyRednek>	Bugpowder, so s.dice is yours?
Jan 16 16:43:19 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 16 16:43:25 <Bugpowder>	I just follow it closely
Jan 16 16:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135829127564.gif
Jan 16 16:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	also unrelated.
Jan 16 16:43:31 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: AFAIK you just have to provide gigavps with evidence you're the shareholder in question.
Jan 16 16:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	or is it.
Jan 16 16:43:34 <Luke-Jr>	gigavps: ^ right?
Jan 16 16:43:41 <dub>	jcpham: http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Michael-scott-no-god-no.gif
Jan 16 16:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr not like this wasn't discussed to the end about two months ago.
Jan 16 16:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00521877 = 1.5656 BTC [+]
Jan 16 16:44:19 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: whatever, if you claim there's a mistake in what I said, then explain
Jan 16 16:44:34 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: the point is you promised dividends from gigavps to people, then went back on it
Jan 16 16:44:39 <mircea_popescu>	o sweet, mnw is back
Jan 16 16:44:49 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr the promise was i will distribute anything gigavps sends.
Jan 16 16:44:54 <mircea_popescu>	he hath not sent anything more than i distributed.
Jan 16 16:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	i don't care what extra performance he needs, for whatever reason.
Jan 16 16:45:49 <EskimoBob>	^ and here we have the real scammy fuck called mircea
Jan 16 16:45:53 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: do you seriously expect that to hold up in court?
Jan 16 16:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	for that matter, it was clear the bonds won't be "upgrading", either, and this long before the glbse implosion.
Jan 16 16:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	yes, actually.
Jan 16 16:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	do you know anything about courts ?
Jan 16 16:46:17 <dub>	yes he does
Jan 16 16:46:32 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: I know they don't care about technicalities
Jan 16 16:46:34 <dub>	he's been there to get his kids back from CPS and his wife out of the lunatic asylum
Jan 16 16:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	o you do ?!
Jan 16 16:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	different courts i guess.
Jan 16 16:48:27 <EskimoBob>	nyRednek: just follow this shit and if you can actually think independently and do not need spoon feeding, you will understand soon, what a pompous scumbag this guy actually really is.
Jan 16 16:48:30 *	Ukto puts up pictures of raindbows and pretty butterflies around MP's room. "Can't we all just... get along?" :P
Jan 16 16:48:40 <gigavps>	lol
Jan 16 16:48:48 <Luke-Jr>	a court that rules on a technicality is an incompetent court
Jan 16 16:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto hey, people got questions, let em ask.
Jan 16 16:48:55 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: good one
Jan 16 16:48:56 <Ukto>	hehehe
Jan 16 16:49:11 <Ukto>	oh, i had no meaning whatsoever in that
Jan 16 16:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr yes, well, what your standards for courtly competence are may differ from what the courts actually do.
Jan 16 16:49:33 <Ukto>	Also, different courts, yes. what country? what level?
Jan 16 16:49:36 <mircea_popescu>	all law is basically one huge technicality, for that matter.
Jan 16 16:49:53 <Ukto>	here, a JP court does not follow technicallities. the judges are not lawyers.
Jan 16 16:49:54 <Luke-Jr>	no
Jan 16 16:49:59 <Ukto>	they just listen to two sides and make a decision
Jan 16 16:50:12 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto sounds more like arbitrage.
Jan 16 16:50:17 <Ukto>	generally for smaller things under 10k
Jan 16 16:50:25 <Ukto>	its the "community" court basically
Jan 16 16:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	but seriously, i'm all for it, i don't see why this needs the drama attached.
Jan 16 16:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	anyone feels they were damaged by me or mpex there's the rota, he can sue
Jan 16 16:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	what's the problem ?
Jan 16 16:51:35 <Namworld>	They'd use the legal system over the rota if anyone was going to do this.
Jan 16 16:51:36 <Luke-Jr>	"I'll rob a bank. If they don't like it, they can sue."
Jan 16 16:51:37 <Luke-Jr>	right
Jan 16 16:51:39 <Namworld>	Probably.
Jan 16 16:51:42 <Ukto>	not sure why.. in what way.. but that made me giggle.
Jan 16 16:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i doubt anyone would use the legal system seeing how there's not enough to pay for a lawyer's initial retainer in dispute.
Jan 16 16:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr the claim is at the very most for conversion.
Jan 16 16:52:23 <mircea_popescu>	there's no robbery involved.
Jan 16 16:52:32 <mircea_popescu>	conversion is just a civil tort.
Jan 16 16:52:56 <nyRednek>	jcpham, can we /msg for a moment?
Jan 16 16:53:05 <Ukto>	nyRednek: sounds kinky
Jan 16 16:53:32 <Namworld>	yes, the low amounts involved is an issue.
Jan 16 16:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	actually i imagine the reason nobody actually sued with the rota is that nobody has enough shares that they value enough btc to bother.
Jan 16 16:54:01 <nyRednek>	Ukto, not exactly, just a little normative speech
Jan 16 16:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	of course, things may be changing there, what did you pay gigavps, like .1 per share ?
Jan 16 16:55:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1177 @ 0.00525452 = 6.1846 BTC [+]
Jan 16 16:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 973 @ 0.00525471 = 5.1128 BTC [+]
Jan 16 16:55:05 <gigavps>	.1279
Jan 16 16:55:07 <Bugpowder>	missing payout is around .12 right now
Jan 16 16:55:08 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 16 16:55:15 <Bugpowder>	I still haven't claimed my shares
Jan 16 16:55:29 <Bugpowder>	:-P
Jan 16 16:55:29 <gigavps>	.1279 * 900 == ~116
Jan 16 16:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. i guess if nobody sues now they might once (if ?) bfl delivers
Jan 16 16:55:35 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: just because you can get away with something, doesn't mean you should do it.
Jan 16 16:55:38 <Namworld>	so far... it's technically still accruing 0.005xxxxx per week.
Jan 16 16:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	if not then either... then maybe if btc goes super high
Jan 16 16:55:41 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: and yes, what you've done is basically stealing.
Jan 16 16:55:45 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 16 16:56:02 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 39*.128*14.73
Jan 16 16:56:02 <gribble>	73.53216
Jan 16 16:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr you're obviously entitled to whatever construction you want on the facts.
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Jan 16 16:56:35 <Bugpowder>	email
Jan 16 16:56:37 <nyRednek>	Luke-Jr, the problem, if this person is in romania, prosecution is going to be nigh impossible
Jan 16 16:56:40 <Bugpowder>	dunno if $73 is enough to mail my ID somewhere
Jan 16 16:56:59 <Bugpowder>	Coulda paid off jurov for that I guess
Jan 16 16:57:12 <Ukto>	nyRednek: I am no longer alone... you use nigh also :~D
Jan 16 16:57:14 <jurov>	lol
Jan 16 16:57:19 <nyRednek>	Ukto, heh
Jan 16 16:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek prosecution is going to be nigh on impossible for the relatively simple reason that there's not a case.
Jan 16 16:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	but hey.
Jan 16 16:58:27 <nyRednek>	i think i'm just going to be converting my btc into cash...traditional securities provide better payout and are more...secure
Jan 16 16:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00521877 = 12.0032 BTC [-]
Jan 16 16:58:43 <Bugpowder>	well they don't provide a better payout
Jan 16 16:58:46 <Bugpowder>	but they are secure
Jan 16 16:58:54 <mircea_popescu>	just don't keep them with mf global.
Jan 16 16:59:06 *	Luke-Jr ponders if there's a way to crash Dice's stock so he can buy 51% and demand they stop DDoSing Bitcoin
Jan 16 16:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e. madoff.
Jan 16 16:59:14 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, were you to appear in manhattan, the argument whether a case exists would become more interesting
Jan 16 16:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr maybe you should sue them.
Jan 16 16:59:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 297 @ 0.00521877 = 1.55 BTC [-]
Jan 16 16:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00525471 = 2.6274 BTC [+]
Jan 16 16:59:46 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: Erik would probably end up in jail.
Jan 16 16:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek only if you could convince some ambulance chaser that i'm really rich enough to take your "case" on %
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Jan 16 17:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	in the unwarranted hope i'll settle. which i won't, so that's moot.
Jan 16 17:00:39 <Bugpowder>	nyRednek, fiat porfolio performance doesn't look like this, ever.  http://i.imgur.com/idoM0.png
Jan 16 17:00:54 <mircea_popescu>	jesus.
Jan 16 17:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	you know what ? that looks like a ponzi.
Jan 16 17:01:06 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, well, what i just saw described is securities fraud...one wouldn't need to find a serpentine lawyer to deal with such
Jan 16 17:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek i don't think you're at all qualified to discuss the topic.
Jan 16 17:01:24 <Bugpowder>	read the contract dude
Jan 16 17:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i imagine he can't now, seeing how he wasn't there at the time and prolly doesn't have a copy.
Jan 16 17:01:59 <Namworld>	I have a copy
Jan 16 17:02:05 <Namworld>	It says almost nothing
Jan 16 17:02:07 <mircea_popescu>	someone shoul;d put a copy on pastebin or /we
Jan 16 17:02:34 <Bugpowder>	I probably lost more on F.GIGA.ETF then everyone else put together
Jan 16 17:02:53 <Luke-Jr>	Bugpowder: just because it's in a contract doesn't make it legal
Jan 16 17:02:56 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/sbvps-delisting-notice/#footnote_3_45492 << woah, what?
Jan 16 17:02:57 <nyRednek>	Buglouse, ponzi scheme?
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Jan 16 17:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny, cause actually mpoe/mpex largest loss was the ~4k btc in august
Jan 16 17:03:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 577 @ 0.00525471 = 3.032 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:03:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.0052977 = 1.3244 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what's the q ?
Jan 16 17:03:45 <Bugpowder>	nyRednek, just my personal BTC performance chart
Jan 16 17:03:57 <Bugpowder>	mostly due to stock price appreciation
Jan 16 17:04:01 <nyRednek>	Buglouse, again, looks like a ponzi started paying
Jan 16 17:04:03 <Bugpowder>	missed a few opportunites
Jan 16 17:04:10 <mircea_popescu>	poor Buglouse.
Jan 16 17:04:17 <nyRednek>	Bugpowder, i mean
Jan 16 17:04:18 <Bugpowder>	not ponzi, just supply and demand imbalance
Jan 16 17:04:26 <Bugpowder>	which we are seeing RIGHT NOW with S.DICE
Jan 16 17:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder no, seriously, it looks totally like a ponzi
Jan 16 17:04:38 <Bugpowder>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.DICE
Jan 16 17:04:57 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, that's what it looked like to me
Jan 16 17:04:59 <Bugpowder>	It is unsustainable for sure
Jan 16 17:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	i think the problem with btc finance is that people have a crazy time curve.
Jan 16 17:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	nobody wanted to buy at 32 cause o, 10mn stocks.
Jan 16 17:05:23 <Luke-Jr>	guess it'll take Erik's arrest to crash S.DICE :/
Jan 16 17:05:26 <mircea_popescu>	then that sold out, little by little, now they pay 50 ?! 60 ?
Jan 16 17:05:28 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 16 17:05:40 <Bugpowder>	that is the risk
Jan 16 17:05:40 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek it looks the same to me too. it's what it looks like.
Jan 16 17:06:03 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr pestering erik atm is the single most damaging thing that can happen to bitcoin.
Jan 16 17:06:04 <Luke-Jr>	Bugpowder: it's more of an inevitable certainty than a risk, really
Jan 16 17:06:14 <Bugpowder>	passthru's are removing stock from the market
Jan 16 17:06:17 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: no, Erik is damaging to bitcoin
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Jan 16 17:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr i don't mean the imaginary bitcoin you jack off to.
Jan 16 17:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	i mean the actual, useful thing.
Jan 16 17:06:38 <Bugpowder>	Luke-Jr I wouldn't say inevitable.  but definitely possible
Jan 16 17:06:58 <Luke-Jr>	Bugpowder: he's in New York. running an online gambling site. openly. as he writes anti-government rants.
Jan 16 17:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00569016 = 1.707 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:07:05 <Luke-Jr>	Bugpowder: how is that NOT inevitable?
Jan 16 17:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	thought he was in nh
Jan 16 17:07:10 <Bugpowder>	WOW
Jan 16 17:07:15 <nyRednek>	Luke-Jr, oh, he's going to prison
Jan 16 17:07:22 <nyRednek>	Luke-Jr, not a question of if, but when
Jan 16 17:07:27 <Bugpowder>	its bitcoin
Jan 16 17:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	what's with you people and prison.
Jan 16 17:07:47 <smickles>	really? satoshidice isn't a 'merican company?
Jan 16 17:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	there's this penitentiary obsession in the us or what
Jan 16 17:07:56 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: I'm pretty sure you're the minority anarchist nutcase.
Jan 16 17:07:57 <smickles>	why would the operator go to prison?
Jan 16 17:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00569016 = 5.6902 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:07:58 <Bugpowder>	linden dollars are convertible
Jan 16 17:08:09 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: NY is America…
Jan 16 17:08:15 <nyRednek>	smickles, promoting gambling is a federal offense
Jan 16 17:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr that certainty is easy to reach if you stick to people who agree with you.
Jan 16 17:08:21 <Luke-Jr>	Bugpowder: which is why Linden Labs had to remove all random from Second Life
Jan 16 17:08:23 <nyRednek>	smickles, doesn't matter where the company is based
Jan 16 17:08:26 <smickles>	Luke-Jr: but satoshidice is registered in ireland or something like that
Jan 16 17:08:38 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: I doubt anyone cares.
Jan 16 17:08:43 <nyRednek>	smickles, doesn't matter if the online gambling is legal in jurisdiction that it is based in
Jan 16 17:08:50 <Bugpowder>	I love how the price keeps going up during this discussion
Jan 16 17:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00569016 = 2.8451 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:08:59 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 16 17:09:00 <nyRednek>	smickles, if an american promotes online gambling in any way, it is a federal offense
Jan 16 17:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00454703 / 0.00477482 / 0.00569016 (1080790 shares, 5,160.58 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.0047035 / 0.00569016 (2770063 shares, 13,029.00 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.0037207 / 0.00569016 (11858048 shares, 44,120.28 BTC)
Jan 16 17:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek do you really think anyone cares what the us thinks about anything ?
Jan 16 17:09:14 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, well, american residents should
Jan 16 17:09:19 <smickles>	nyRednek: can you point me to that law pleas :)
Jan 16 17:09:19 <Luke-Jr>	nyRednek: srsly?
Jan 16 17:09:26 <Bugpowder>	nyRednek, federal or state?
Jan 16 17:09:32 <nyRednek>	Bugpowder, federal
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Jan 16 17:09:42 <Bugpowder>	The NY dude that got arrested recently was state
Jan 16 17:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder he's confused. there's the using banking for gambling federal thing.
Jan 16 17:09:46 <Luke-Jr>	nyRednek: so like, if I tell people about other not-DDoSing-Bitcoin gambling sites to use instead of SD, I'm in trouble? :o
Jan 16 17:10:01 <nyRednek>	Luke-Jr, maybe
Jan 16 17:10:06 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr not rly. but you won't go anywhere. the model works like this because it's sound like this.
Jan 16 17:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	this is what bitcoin exists to do.
Jan 16 17:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	you coder people, instead of arguing with your implicit boss, should just stfu and go to work
Jan 16 17:10:25 <nyRednek>	a guy was arrested recently who just sold software to gambling sites
Jan 16 17:10:26 <mircea_popescu>	to make what needs to be done be done.
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Jan 16 17:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek that was the most embarrasing botched conspiracy to pervert the course of justice ever
Jan 16 17:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	it wouldn't surprise me if the das involved end up in jail.
Jan 16 17:11:12 <Bugpowder>	law I believe
Jan 16 17:11:18 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, it doesn't work that way here
Jan 16 17:11:27 <smickles>	no link or code # for the law?
Jan 16 17:11:28 <Bugpowder>	NY though
Jan 16 17:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek how would you know how it works there ?
Jan 16 17:11:30 <Bugpowder>	inden_Lab_Official:Policy_Regarding_Wagering_in_Second_Life
Jan 16 17:11:32 <Bugpowder>	that was state
Jan 16 17:11:34 <Bugpowder>	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Policy_Regarding_Wagering_in_Second_Life
Jan 16 17:11:34 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 16 17:11:36 <Bugpowder>	oops
Jan 16 17:12:14 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, i've been on the receiving end of ill-executed criminal justice efforts
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Jan 16 17:12:20 <Luke-Jr>	Bugpowder: FBI basically forced that FWIW
Jan 16 17:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	eyah, well, that may not give you the best perspective i guess.
Jan 16 17:12:35 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, and beat it
Jan 16 17:12:50 <smickles>	also, arrested/shut down != illegal
Jan 16 17:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	not particularly hard a thing to do, but certainly exhilirating in any case.
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Jan 16 17:13:19 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, any attorney who acts "in good faith" is covered under sovereign immunity
Jan 16 17:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	if he acts in good faith
Jan 16 17:13:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00065568 = 9.114 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:13:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00065423 = 3.402 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 83 @ 0.00569017 = 0.4723 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00569016 = 1.138 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:13:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00539589 = 2.6979 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 217 @ 0.00539588 = 1.1709 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:13:53 <Bugpowder>	DUMP
Jan 16 17:13:54 <nyRednek>	"in good faith" is hard to disprove
Jan 16 17:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	threatening a honest citizen with unwarranted prosecution if he refuses to break the law will be a tough sell as good faith.
Jan 16 17:14:16 <mircea_popescu>	and good faith is not always presumed.
Jan 16 17:14:21 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, and is generally established by affidavit
Jan 16 17:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. that arrest is possibly the worst setback for gambling prosecution in the past year or two.
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Jan 16 17:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	wait.
Jan 16 17:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	it sold DOWN from 65 ?
Jan 16 17:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00546657 = 9.0198 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	motherfucker wow.
Jan 16 17:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder update in the ponzi graph ? lol
Jan 16 17:16:04 <Bugpowder>	naw it got fucked up
Jan 16 17:16:13 <Bugpowder>	I cornered the market this morning
Jan 16 17:16:19 <Bugpowder>	then fatfingered it all away
Jan 16 17:16:26 <Bugpowder>	not all
Jan 16 17:16:26 <nyRednek>	yeah, dumping s.dice through my proxy, as well...give it an hour and it'll be a little lower
Jan 16 17:16:28 <Bugpowder>	but a lot
Jan 16 17:17:08 <smickles>	nyRednek: did you mean 31 USC section 5361ish?
Jan 16 17:17:26 <nyRednek>	smickles, sounds right
Jan 16 17:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.005807 = 2.9035 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.0058077 = 18.0039 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6400 @ 0.00598999 = 38.3359 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:17:34 <Bugpowder>	o-)
Jan 16 17:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.DICE
Jan 16 17:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	that looks epic, srsly.
Jan 16 17:18:27 <smickles>	nyRednek: i'm looking thru it again, but that doesn't make it illegal to promote gambling
Jan 16 17:18:27 <Bugpowder>	so does this
Jan 16 17:18:28 <Bugpowder>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE
Jan 16 17:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder remember that 18 dump ?
Jan 16 17:18:55 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 16 17:18:59 <mircea_popescu>	man...
Jan 16 17:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00065423 = 7.033 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:19:52 <smickles>	nyRednek: it makes it illeagal to accept money for online gambling, it seems
Jan 16 17:19:56 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: j/w, but why do you care about what contracts say at all?
Jan 16 17:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00064989 = 3.217 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:20:15 <smickles>	and is the only federal online gambling law i've yet read
Jan 16 17:20:21 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gpg-contracts/
Jan 16 17:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	it's an entire philosophy
Jan 16 17:20:33 <nyRednek>	smickles, current prosecution is going after software vendors who code software used by online gambling sites
Jan 16 17:20:41 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: tl;dr
Jan 16 17:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	well if you tl;dr you won't know.
Jan 16 17:20:55 <smickles>	nyRednek: not under that law, i'm sure
Jan 16 17:20:59 <Luke-Jr>	I'm not curious enough to read that long thing
Jan 16 17:21:06 <Luke-Jr>	which seems to be focussed on more than just the question
Jan 16 17:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	no biggy
Jan 16 17:21:11 <smickles>	can you help me find the law that those people are breaking?
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Jan 16 17:21:28 <nyRednek>	smickles, i'll look, it might actually be in the new york code
Jan 16 17:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	smickles his generalisation is unwarranted. one particular da's dirty got blown in the open is all.
Jan 16 17:21:37 <nyRednek>	cause it's being prosecuted here in NY
Jan 16 17:21:49 <Bugpowder_>	yes
Jan 16 17:21:53 <Bugpowder_>	that is what i said
Jan 16 17:21:55 <Bugpowder_>	5 minutes ago
Jan 16 17:22:06 <smickles>	nyRednek: wait, NY is shutting down an AZ company?
Jan 16 17:22:09 <smickles>	wtf?
Jan 16 17:22:17 <smickles>	why don't they just keep doing business
Jan 16 17:22:35 <Bugpowder_>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 16 17:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00454703 / 0.00478731 / 0.00598999 (1087457 shares, 5,206.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00470862 / 0.00598999 (2782713 shares, 13,102.74 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00372295 / 0.00598999 (11870698 shares, 44,194.02 BTC)
Jan 16 17:22:38 <smickles>	it'd have to be a federal law
Jan 16 17:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i presume cause nobody wants to do business with them anymore because nobody's sure if they have or haven't backdoored
Jan 16 17:22:40 <dub>	since when has law been a basis for the justice system anyway?
Jan 16 17:23:03 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the article i just skimmed said that the ny judge 'shut them down'
Jan 16 17:23:09 <smickles>	'legally'
Jan 16 17:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	um ?
Jan 16 17:23:15 <dub>	next you'll tell me there are constitutional rights or something euqlly crazy
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Jan 16 17:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	dub yes, you have the right to free rectal examinations with any airline ticked bought.
Jan 16 17:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	think of the children.
Jan 16 17:23:54 <dub>	oh they were
Jan 16 17:24:27 <mircea_popescu>	has anyone noticed the big move today, ie germany taking its gold back from ny ?
Jan 16 17:24:49 <nyRednek>	smickles, i was assuming it was a federal law, as well, due to the interstate nature of the order
Jan 16 17:24:58 <dub>	gold, pff, call me when they take the palladium
Jan 16 17:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Jan 16 17:25:25 <dub>	cheap pirate joke
Jan 16 17:25:41 <nyRednek>	well, gold is worth more than platinum atm, so...yeah
Jan 16 17:26:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11510 @ 0.00066014 = 7.5982 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:26:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11474 @ 0.00066181 = 7.5936 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:26:23 <dub>	palladium is the new hotness with the hookers and blow set
Jan 16 17:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	"I've survived entirely on bitcoin for a whole year. "
Jan 16 17:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	dude this is getting old.
Jan 16 17:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin scammer runs off with w/e
Jan 16 17:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	then three, six months later is back
Jan 16 17:27:07 <smickles>	nyRednek: http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2012/12/StuartIndictment_BillofParticulars.pdf
Jan 16 17:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	"o, sorry, i has no marketable skills other than selling you ppl's bitcoinz. pls to take me back"
Jan 16 17:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck is this shit!
Jan 16 17:27:37 <dub>	its MNW
Jan 16 17:27:41 <dub>	enough said
Jan 16 17:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	lambert was here recently too
Jan 16 17:27:54 <mircea_popescu>	sorta smarmy on the forum, giving opinions
Jan 16 17:28:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11934 @ 0.00066181 = 7.898 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:28:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1533 @ 0.00066182 = 1.0146 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	in six months muppets a la eskimoblob will be all pleased to interact and exchange opinions and pats on the back
Jan 16 17:28:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 933 @ 0.00066525 = 0.6207 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	ridiculous.
Jan 16 17:28:27 <dub>	PH has been posting around under ppt-pr
Jan 16 17:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Jan 16 17:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... pfff.
Jan 16 17:29:22 <smickles>	nyRednek: so it's ny pen. law 225.10
Jan 16 17:29:28 <smickles>	not federal law
Jan 16 17:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	That brings me to the final point. I initially intended to teach the community a lesson about trust, I did not expect anyone to really take the bets and thus I did not expect to keep any profits. As the bets grew though, I was tempted with greed and I fell into a trap.
Jan 16 17:29:48 <nyRednek>	smickles, right...looks like that's the search warrant
Jan 16 17:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	fucking ridiculous narrative. from 1910 onwards, the same soup of the puritan-contrite criminal
Jan 16 17:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	"o, i fell into a trap"
Jan 16 17:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	he fell into his mother.
Jan 16 17:30:41 <Bugpowder_>	he should probably be arrested under ny pen. law 225.10
Jan 16 17:30:51 <JWU_42>	had to down rate rg
Jan 16 17:31:00 <JWU_42>	after seeing the delisting announcement
Jan 16 17:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	that's a point
Jan 16 17:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Jan 16 17:31:18 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Jan 16 17:31:27 <jcpham>	;;unrate rg
Jan 16 17:31:28 <gribble>	Successfully removed your rating for rg.
Jan 16 17:31:34 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: did rg actually release his keys?
Jan 16 17:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:f3a98fc18f7f44dfc4e108c87e1cfd5aa354d8f1497ec4c17d11c7e2
Jan 16 17:31:42 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Jan 16 17:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	smickles from what i heard.
Jan 16 17:31:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.43 = 1.29 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate rg -1 from what I understand person no longer has sole control of private key.
Jan 16 17:32:05 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rg has changed from 3 to -1.
Jan 16 17:32:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: he'd have to have, for arji and them to pay divs, right?
Jan 16 17:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	smickles logically, yes.
Jan 16 17:32:38 <smickles>	;;rate rg -10 gave away his private keys
Jan 16 17:32:39 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system.
Jan 16 17:32:57 <mircea_popescu>	smickles mind that the system dioes not actually verify ownership
Jan 16 17:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	it's not hard proof in that sense.
Jan 16 17:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 9761 @ 0.00130005 = 12.6898 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:33:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 739 @ 0.0002 = 0.1478 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:33:59 <Bugpowder_>	YAY1
Jan 16 17:34:07 <mircea_popescu>	what, you were buying ?
Jan 16 17:34:11 <Bugpowder_>	was waiting to see if the .0002 would get hit
Jan 16 17:34:14 <Bugpowder_>	f no
Jan 16 17:34:25 <Bugpowder_>	just like to see the last gasp of a dying creature
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Jan 16 17:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bvps
Jan 16 17:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BVPS] 1D: 0.0002 / 0.00122262 / 0.00130005 (10500 shares, 12.84 BTC), 7D: 0.0002 / 0.00131668 / 0.00635541 (10696 shares, 14.08 BTC), 30D: 0.0002 / 0.00243135 / 0.00635541 (23929 shares, 58.18 BTC)
Jan 16 17:34:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0433 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:35:08 <mod6>	;;unrate rg
Jan 16 17:35:10 <gribble>	Successfully removed your rating for rg.
Jan 16 17:35:38 <smickles>	arij: how were ya'll able to pay s.bvps dividends?
Jan 16 17:36:10 <arij>	For December?
Jan 16 17:36:36 <smickles>	well, at all. I mean how were you able to run the command on mpex?
Jan 16 17:36:57 <smickles>	it's something that just recently poped on my interest meter
Jan 16 17:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	ny has some funny class e felonies. "Promoting a suicide attempt". "Stalking in the second degree". "Abortion in the second degree". "Female genital mutilation". "Substitution of children". "Computer trespass". "Welfare fraud in the fourth degree".
Jan 16 17:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	etc
Jan 16 17:37:25 <dub>	substitution of children?
Jan 16 17:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	Rent gouging, Unlawfully concealing a will, Unlawful possession of personal identification information in the second degree
Jan 16 17:37:55 <arij>	Nam was taking care of that, I've never personally used mpex
Jan 16 17:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	Rewarding official misconduct in the second degree. like what, voting ?
Jan 16 17:38:18 <Namworld>	smickles: rg gave his gpg keys
Jan 16 17:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/e_felonies.htm list really kicks ass.
Jan 16 17:38:29 <dub>	theres some bylaw in our capital that hotels must provide horse tethering facilities
Jan 16 17:38:29 <smickles>	Namworld: ah, that's too bad
Jan 16 17:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	Unlawfully dealing with fireworks
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Jan 16 17:38:38 <jcpham>	that means he has no interest in WoT
Jan 16 17:38:42 <smickles>	;;eauth
Jan 16 17:38:42 <gribble>	(eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
Jan 16 17:38:45 <smickles>	;;eauth smickles
Jan 16 17:38:46 <gribble>	Request successful for user smickles, hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/EA62D7CEB2450C3F
Jan 16 17:38:47 <Namworld>	He's gone gone
Jan 16 17:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham pretty crazy, isn't it.
Jan 16 17:38:54 <mod6>	what keys
Jan 16 17:38:55 <jcpham>	yes
Jan 16 17:39:16 <smickles>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8926d9daa6911895a4b7dfc67516b590f01432eae6b601b77780a3c8
Jan 16 17:39:17 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user smickles with key EA62D7CEB2450C3F
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Jan 16 17:39:20 <mod6>	err, sorry. what keys were given out? i've been ill so im just trying to catch up
Jan 16 17:39:21 <jcpham>	the private key to his gpg identity
Jan 16 17:39:28 <mod6>	wat
Jan 16 17:39:35 <smickles>	;;rate rg -10 gave away his private key
Jan 16 17:39:36 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rg has changed from 2 to -10.
Jan 16 17:39:53 <nyRednek>	;;getrating rg
Jan 16 17:39:53 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User rg, rated since Sun Jun  5 10:39:49 2011. Cumulative rating 321, from 159 total ratings. Received ratings: 156 positive, 3 negative. Sent ratings: 148 positive, 17 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=rg
Jan 16 17:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek he was well known for a long time.
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Jan 16 17:40:32 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, so it seems
Jan 16 17:40:41 <nyRednek>	so which security is he running?
Jan 16 17:40:46 <arij>	He can easily verify his identity and get a new gpg key
Jan 16 17:40:49 <smickles>	Namworld, arij i'd like you know that I don't fault you guys for using the keys tho
Jan 16 17:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	was, s.bvps
Jan 16 17:41:07 <arij>	No need to neg rate :/
Jan 16 17:41:22 <jcpham>	i unrate drama cases
Jan 16 17:41:57 <jcpham>	sad news though about thgpg key
Jan 16 17:42:24 <jcpham>	he was in -otc the other day
Jan 16 17:42:27 <jcpham>	grubles too
Jan 16 17:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	i guess people just don't realise that's the absolute limit of what you can't do.
Jan 16 17:42:32 <mod6>	yeah i saw that
Jan 16 17:42:41 <jcpham>	i bought some silver from grubles
Jan 16 17:43:22 <jcpham>	after i made him auth
Jan 16 17:43:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 206 @ 0.00539588 = 1.1116 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:43:37 <mod6>	;;rate rg -5 Gave away private key to WoT account. And this: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/sbvps-delisting-notice
Jan 16 17:43:38 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -5 for user rg has been recorded.
Jan 16 17:44:10 <mod6>	That's the first neg rating i've given out.  I'd like to hear from rg about all of this though.
Jan 16 17:44:37 <dub>	I doubt he gives a shit
Jan 16 17:44:38 <smickles>	the whole idea of using gpg with the wot revolved around contracts, if he gave his personal signing ability to someone else, i can't be sure that any contract I sign with that key has ever been "real"
Jan 16 17:44:49 <jcpham>	right
Jan 16 17:44:54 <mod6>	totally
Jan 16 17:45:01 <jcpham>	big no-no
Jan 16 17:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, keeping private keys private is capital.
Jan 16 17:45:14 <mod6>	without that, we're lost
Jan 16 17:45:17 <Namworld>	He gave it strictly on account he had to leave BitVPS to someone else.
Jan 16 17:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.11872201 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i understand there's no ill will.
Jan 16 17:45:46 <jcpham>	no one is blaming you guys
Jan 16 17:45:56 <jcpham>	rg should've known better or known the ramications
Jan 16 17:45:58 <arij>	D:
Jan 16 17:46:01 <jcpham>	should the WoT discover this
Jan 16 17:46:01 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: couldn't the account priviges have been transferred?
Jan 16 17:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham or at least asked.
Jan 16 17:46:05 <smickles>	(to another key)
Jan 16 17:46:05 <mod6>	did he just hand it over so you could access his mpex account with the remaining shares?
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Jan 16 17:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	smickles no. that's the entire idea of mpex. that you can't just pass things around.
Jan 16 17:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.03844519 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 17:46:40 <Namworld>	mod6, pretty much
Jan 16 17:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	you make a company, it's yours. shareholders can't kick you out. you can't "sell" your interest.
Jan 16 17:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	company may be acquired, sure, but as a corp merger or somesuch.
Jan 16 17:47:02 <mod6>	ahh. he should have just used PUSH and he could have avoided a lot of issues
Jan 16 17:47:23 <Namworld>	What about dividends?
Jan 16 17:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 basically he decided he'll do something that couldn't be done contractually
Jan 16 17:47:32 <mircea_popescu>	and just charged ahead with it.
Jan 16 17:47:37 <mod6>	:(
Jan 16 17:47:43 <mircea_popescu>	which is possibly the only part i'd complain about it. not like im not fucking here all the rtime
Jan 16 17:47:54 <mircea_popescu>	or i charge a bitcoin per line to advise or anything.
Jan 16 17:47:58 <mod6>	yeah, everything that happened wasn't really allowed by the contract
Jan 16 17:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00064635 = 11.6666 BTC [-]
Jan 16 17:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	so just how fucking hard it is to go /query mircea_popescu hey dude here's what i want to do, does it work how should i do it
Jan 16 17:48:43 <mod6>	right. everytime i have a question or something, you're there pretty quick to help
Jan 16 17:48:49 <mod6>	i don't know what the problem was there
Jan 16 17:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine a large part of the problem was that bvps suddenly seemed very small, in btc terms
Jan 16 17:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	and so not really a priority or anything
Jan 16 17:50:11 <smickles>	nyRednek: in order for that software dev to be convicted, the code he wrote would have to be 'bookmaking' (in the gambling sense ) software
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Jan 16 17:50:59 <smickles>	or
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Jan 16 17:51:43 <smickles>	apparently, reciving gambled money is promoting gambling in the first degree
Jan 16 17:52:03 <Bugpowder_>	he made a tool that allows others to run a site
Jan 16 17:52:06 <smickles>	i wonder if that means that any shareholder of S.DICE is breaking this law
Jan 16 17:52:12 <Bugpowder_>	DA can charge
Jan 16 17:52:16 <Bugpowder_>	can he convict?
Jan 16 17:52:29 <Bugpowder_>	most people don't want to take the risk
Jan 16 17:52:36 <Bugpowder_>	of a fight
Jan 16 17:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ which is how the system works, over there.
Jan 16 17:53:11 <smickles>	also, did you notice that not talking to the cops can get you convicted of murder?
Jan 16 17:53:36 <smickles>	well, it's up to the supreme court anyway
Jan 16 17:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	o they picked it ?!
Jan 16 17:53:58 <nyRednek>	smickles, one or the other, i'm not following the case as closely as i should, tbh
Jan 16 17:54:10 <smickles>	boils down to a cop saying "hey, your not under arrest, but is it possible that those shotgunshells at the murder scene are yours?"
Jan 16 17:54:19 <smickles>	you don't answer, your're a murder
Jan 16 17:54:21 <smickles>	*er
Jan 16 17:54:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3944 @ 0.000647 = 2.5518 BTC [+]
Jan 16 17:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 16 17:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	wtf bs is that ?
Jan 16 17:54:43 <nyRednek>	Bugpowder_, new york jurors don't have as much reasonable doubt as one should, tbh
Jan 16 17:54:54 <smickles>	the bs is they say it's not covered by the 5th b/c he wasn't under arrest YET
Jan 16 17:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	AHAHAHA
Jan 16 17:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	anyone actually takes that seriously ?
Jan 16 17:55:18 <nyRednek>	smickles, sounds about right
Jan 16 17:55:18 <dub>	this is why we don't live in 'murica
Jan 16 17:55:21 <mircea_popescu>	i guess that's why they like a lot of them "low information voters" around.
Jan 16 17:55:53 <nyRednek>	smickles, also, in indiana, cops don't have to knock and announce before executing a search warrant
Jan 16 17:55:58 <smickles>	now i'm spooked by the last time I was pulled over, and didn't say a wort to the cop
Jan 16 17:56:24 <dub>	lol what did you do?
Jan 16 17:56:30 <smickles>	nyRednek: in missouri they come in and shoot your pomeranian
Jan 16 17:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	he was transporting a 720lb torpedo
Jan 16 17:56:37 <nyRednek>	smickles, the best vague answer, "i don't know what you're talking about, officer"
Jan 16 17:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	atop his converted dodge
Jan 16 17:56:44 <smickles>	dub: I was driving
Jan 16 17:56:58 <dub>	smickles: yeah what did you do during the interaction
Jan 16 17:57:19 <dub>	you just handed over ID and pretended to be mute?
Jan 16 17:57:21 <smickles>	dub: politely smiled and let him talk
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Jan 16 17:57:29 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what sort of misdemeanor it is if you just jack off while the cop tries to talk to you
Jan 16 17:57:40 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, that's disorderly conduct
Jan 16 17:57:41 <jcpham>	public indecency i suppose
Jan 16 17:57:45 <dub>	mircea_popescu: rape no doubt
Jan 16 17:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek i would have imagined not speaking english is disorderly conduct
Jan 16 17:58:01 <smickles>	dub: he claimed that I had a tail light out, it wasn't true, so he gave me an 'unwritten warning'
Jan 16 17:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	(or spanish)
Jan 16 17:58:05 <jcpham>	definitely rape if semen touches the cop
Jan 16 17:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham what if clothes but no cop ?
Jan 16 17:58:29 <nyRednek>	well, in NYC, it's disorderly conduct...it's assaulting an officer if semen touches
Jan 16 17:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	improper textile soiling in the 3rd degree ?
Jan 16 17:58:33 <jcpham>	clothes might count
Jan 16 17:58:48 <dub>	mircea_popescu: unlicensed sperm odnation
Jan 16 17:58:51 <nyRednek>	same as spitting on a cop...assault
Jan 16 17:58:52 <dub>	donation*
Jan 16 17:58:53 <jcpham>	maybe the clothes is just sexual assault
Jan 16 17:59:22 <jcpham>	i think ejaculating on an officer might be felony territory
Jan 16 17:59:43 <smickles>	WTF is this zamboni game on google?!?
Jan 16 17:59:45 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess it'd depend if they enjoyed it
Jan 16 17:59:56 <jcpham>	ha
Jan 16 17:59:58 <nyRednek>	felonious assault of an officer
Jan 16 18:00:14 <nyRednek>	same as screaming, "i'm gonna fuck you up, piggy"
Jan 16 18:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	the lonious assault of an officer if you play that shit too loud
Jan 16 18:00:43 <dub>	smickles: I asked my canukistani friend if it signified anything, apparently not
Jan 16 18:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	threatening is assault now ?
Jan 16 18:01:04 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, threatening has always been assault
Jan 16 18:01:09 <dub>	yeah
Jan 16 18:01:12 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, when you strike, it's battery
Jan 16 18:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	apprehension yeah
Jan 16 18:01:54 <smickles>	it has to be an earnest threat to be assult tho
Jan 16 18:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	right you are.
Jan 16 18:02:05 <smickles>	otherwise, it's bullying
Jan 16 18:02:14 <jcpham>	like if i threaten to kill you i need to own a weapon first?
Jan 16 18:02:22 <jcpham>	or the threat of death is enough
Jan 16 18:02:24 <smickles>	which is usually illegal now too (bullying)
Jan 16 18:02:31 <jcpham>	:-)
Jan 16 18:02:38 <nyRednek>	jcpham, threat of death is enough for assault, terroristic threatening
Jan 16 18:02:57 <nyRednek>	smickles, that was a stupid law that apportioned activity that was already covered by the penal code
Jan 16 18:03:08 <jcpham>	but what if i have down's syndrome and i'm not actually a threat
Jan 16 18:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	think of the children!
Jan 16 18:03:30 <smickles>	jcpham: well, as I understand it, you can threaten to kill all you want if its a joke, but proving it's a joke can be tricky in some situations
Jan 16 18:03:44 <nyRednek>	redundant sections of the penal code should be excised
Jan 16 18:04:03 <jcpham>	i've never made a death threat that i know of
Jan 16 18:04:05 <smickles>	nyRednek: you suffer from the is/ought distinction
Jan 16 18:04:24 <smickles>	jcpham: you threatent to pay me once, i've got it in writing
Jan 16 18:04:35 <nyRednek>	redundant sections of law in general need to be excised, at all levels
Jan 16 18:04:38 <smickles>	iirc, you made good on the threat too :P
Jan 16 18:04:50 <jcpham>	payment threats
Jan 16 18:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek ideally, the law should fit in fifty pages.
Jan 16 18:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	that's how i'd have it. you want to make a new law ? gotta wipe old one first, make space.
Jan 16 18:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	you get 64kb.
Jan 16 18:05:13 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, maybe not fifty pages, but less than a full library of volumes
Jan 16 18:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	fifty pages
Jan 16 18:05:27 <jcpham>	all lwas ought to fit in 640k of RAM
Jan 16 18:05:29 <mircea_popescu>	so that highschoolers can be required to know the whole law by heard
Jan 16 18:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	or else not graduate.
Jan 16 18:05:36 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: then law will grow at a rate = to compression tech
Jan 16 18:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	compression is finite.
Jan 16 18:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	and also not allowed.
Jan 16 18:06:08 <nyRednek>	hell, definitions don't fit in 50 pages
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Jan 16 18:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	64kb of [azAz09.-]
Jan 16 18:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek tough.
Jan 16 18:07:38 <smickles>	noone yet congratulated me on my creation of another person :|
Jan 16 18:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Jan 16 18:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	congrats!
Jan 16 18:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	cigar or no cigar ?
Jan 16 18:08:00 <nyRednek>	hell, the 1783 treaty of paris didn't fit in 50 pages
Jan 16 18:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek tough.
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Jan 16 18:08:17 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/names-detail.p?name-id=L18030781&type=L.L.C.
Jan 16 18:08:20 <nyRednek>	smickles, i've done it a few times, you have my sympathies
Jan 16 18:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	if ignorance of the law is no defence then the law fits in 64kb
Jan 16 18:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	smickles a hehe that kind. well grats nonetheless
Jan 16 18:08:46 <smickles>	:D
Jan 16 18:09:07 <smickles>	the next real person should be coming around may
Jan 16 18:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	let people add to the 64kb through private contract if they want to.
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Jan 16 18:09:30 <smickles>	and a cigar would be in order if all goes well
Jan 16 18:09:30 <nyRednek>	oh, contract law is an entirely new matter
Jan 16 18:09:35 <nyRednek>	as is common law
Jan 16 18:09:47 <nyRednek>	and case law
Jan 16 18:10:11 <nyRednek>	case law being precedent set by court rulings as to the proper interpretation of law
Jan 16 18:10:47 <smickles>	i don't like that idea
Jan 16 18:11:03 <nyRednek>	smickles, which idea?
Jan 16 18:11:31 <nyRednek>	many of our legal conventions are handed down by precedent
Jan 16 18:11:46 <smickles>	that the first interpretation should necessarily affect any following
Jan 16 18:12:01 <nyRednek>	unless you live under napoleonic code, which throws legal precedent out the window
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Jan 16 18:12:15 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: that's romania, right?
Jan 16 18:12:19 <smickles>	vampires and such
Jan 16 18:12:47 <nyRednek>	smickles, but, in reality, the english system follows the construct of legal precedent
Jan 16 18:13:03 <nyRednek>	smickles, otherwise, we'd have no interpreted right to privacy
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Jan 16 18:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	most of europe, including romania yes.
Jan 16 18:13:46 <mircea_popescu>	but there's still a version of precedent used, just... differently.
Jan 16 18:15:09 <jcpham>	smickles you got your license on my birthday
Jan 16 18:15:33 <jcpham>	you don't have to thank me though
Jan 16 18:15:33 <nyRednek>	iirc, doe v bolton, 1973
Jan 16 18:16:19 <smickles>	jcpham: It will foever be known as jcpham day in the company by-laws
Jan 16 18:16:47 <jcpham>	hahaha
Jan 16 18:17:12 <smickles>	also, there's no business license yet, the company had to be formed before it could see one of those
Jan 16 18:17:32 <smickles>	there's a federal tax id tho
Jan 16 18:17:48 <smickles>	s/see/seek/
Jan 16 18:17:57 <jcpham>	cool beans
Jan 16 18:19:08 <mod6>	nice smickles!
Jan 16 18:19:35 <mod6>	(on the LLC)
Jan 16 18:19:50 <nyRednek>	sorry, it was row v wade, 1973
Jan 16 18:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00066525 = 8.1161 BTC [+]
Jan 16 18:21:20 <mircea_popescu>	heh you mean that wasn't just bait ?
Jan 16 18:21:58 <smickles>	mod6: thanks :)
Jan 16 18:22:39 <smickles>	nyRednek: that's privacy extending from property rights tho, isn't it?
Jan 16 18:22:52 <nyRednek>	smickles, i believe, so
Jan 16 18:23:15 <nyRednek>	smickles, the 14th amendment was referenced, so maybe not
Jan 16 18:24:04 <nyRednek>	the 14th amendment deals mainly with citizenship
Jan 16 18:24:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9075 @ 0.00066525 = 6.0371 BTC [+]
Jan 16 18:25:11 <smickles>	"nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"
Jan 16 18:25:24 <smickles>	it specifically says property tho
Jan 16 18:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/3zWPK.jpg
Jan 16 18:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	this is rich
Jan 16 18:26:03 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the department of homland security suggests that you uninstall and not use java
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Jan 16 18:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	why thanks very much to the dept of who the fuck asked them
Jan 16 18:27:00 <smickles>	nyRednek: so my view of it from that perspective is that you only have privacy in so much as the state isn't allowed to do things why render your ownership of property meaningless
Jan 16 18:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	are they coming up with those booklets on spouse selection already ?
Jan 16 18:27:37 <jcpham>	oh wait i can select another spouse
Jan 16 18:27:43 <jcpham>	or an additional spouse
Jan 16 18:27:53 <jcpham>	do i get to share than revenue stream also?
Jan 16 18:28:18 <nyRednek>	smickles, also, katz v united states, 1967
Jan 16 18:28:27 <nyRednek>	regarding unwarranted wiretapping
Jan 16 18:28:44 <nyRednek>	referencing 4th and 5th amendments
Jan 16 18:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham surely
Jan 16 18:29:34 <nyRednek>	smickles, also, right to privacy preventing illegal search/seizure, and self-incrimination
Jan 16 18:31:24 <nyRednek>	smickles, i'm thinking it's more the liberty thing...the state is depriving you of liberty by snooping on you(privacy is a safeguard of free speech)
Jan 16 18:33:46 <nyRednek>	the security issues regarding java have been many, so i tend to agree with OHS on this one
Jan 16 18:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek the point is the homeland security thing has no business discussing this, or pretty much any other matter.
Jan 16 18:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	their job is pretty much getting tsa dismantled already and then going away in the sunset.
Jan 16 18:37:16 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, OSA is a large and wide-reaching organization...this is very much their business
Jan 16 18:37:24 <nyRednek>	OHS, rather
Jan 16 18:37:36 <nyRednek>	too many three letter names
Jan 16 18:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	right, it works in practice as a sort of soviet commisariat of the people's soviets bla bla
Jan 16 18:38:07 <nyRednek>	tsa is just one of their subordinate agencies
Jan 16 18:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	but it's mandate legally is exactly that : to dismantle the tsa and go away.
Jan 16 18:38:17 <nyRednek>	the fbi is another of their subordinate agencies
Jan 16 18:38:26 <nyRednek>	so is ice
Jan 16 18:38:39 <nyRednek>	its mandate is much more than dismantle tsa
Jan 16 18:38:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5843 @ 0.00066094 = 3.8619 BTC [-]
Jan 16 18:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	really sad to watch (from a safe distance, blesfully) what's happening to that country.
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Jan 16 18:39:52 <nyRednek>	here's the sad thing to watch...the US is the world's largest economy...if it falls, how well do you think the EU or the PRC will do in the ashes?
Jan 16 18:40:23 <nyRednek>	i mean the ashes of what used to be the US's GDP
Jan 16 18:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	it's neither the world's largest economy
Jan 16 18:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	nor actually providing anything of value
Jan 16 18:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	the world won't notice.
Jan 16 18:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	the delusions to the contrary are actually part of the "sad".
Jan 16 18:41:12 <nyRednek>	the US has the world's largest GDP, and nations such as PRC depend on consumption by US
Jan 16 18:41:17 <dub>	does dhs know that java is patched?
Jan 16 18:41:19 <mircea_popescu>	this is nonsense
Jan 16 18:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	no producer "depends" on consumption by anyone.
Jan 16 18:41:32 <dub>	or is it a case of sun fucked up one too many times and are written off
Jan 16 18:41:41 <mircea_popescu>	dub they just wish to opine.
Jan 16 18:41:47 <thestringpuller>	sun is dead
Jan 16 18:41:52 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, actually, producers need consumers to buy products
Jan 16 18:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	and isn't dhs the dept of welfare i mean human services ?
Jan 16 18:41:58 <dub>	oracle w/e
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Jan 16 18:42:01 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, it's backwards to think otherwise
Jan 16 18:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	nyRednek that's nonsense. producers need noone
Jan 16 18:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	consumers need producers.
Jan 16 18:42:10 <iz>	dub: it's not really patched
Jan 16 18:42:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: comsumes women thus he needs mothers
Jan 16 18:42:41 <iz>	so far they have released 2 different "patches" that "fix" the same vuln, but not really
Jan 16 18:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	iz 3rds a charm
Jan 16 18:42:56 <iz>	haha
Jan 16 18:43:07 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, let's put it this way, kodak failed because...?
Jan 16 18:43:19 <mircea_popescu>	because it wasn't producing anything.
Jan 16 18:43:20 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, they produced a lot of film and cameras...
Jan 16 18:43:28 <nyRednek>	mircea_popescu, that's not true
Jan 16 18:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	no. they produced a lot of useless junk.
Jan 16 18:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	course it's true.
Jan 16 18:43:37 <iz>	also, if you consider the EU as it's own entity, it's got greater GDP than USA, right?
Jan 16 18:43:46 <jcpham>	kodak is a much more interesting beast
Jan 16 18:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	if you make a huge company "producing" "art" you will fail too
Jan 16 18:43:49 <nyRednek>	iz, not yet, it doesn't
Jan 16 18:44:02 <iz>	nyRednek: look at the numbers for 2011
Jan 16 18:44:04 <mircea_popescu>	iz if you discount imaginary/funny money
Jan 16 18:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	the us is about on par with pakistan atm.
Jan 16 18:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	per capita income in the 100-1000 range.
Jan 16 18:44:31 <nyRednek>	iz, well, as of 2010 it wasn't, let me check
Jan 16 18:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	and for that matter, i too can write 10000000000000000 dollah on pieces of paper and trade it back and forth with the girls
Jan 16 18:44:46 <iz>	nyRednek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
Jan 16 18:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	that won't make my harem the world's largest economy
Jan 16 18:46:07 <iz>	here's a listing per capita (for all ranges) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Jan 16 18:46:19 <nyRednek>	iz, by 2.6 quadrillion, yep, the EU has surpassed the US
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Jan 16 18:46:42 <nyRednek>	iz, you're right...well, the SECOND largest world economy
Jan 16 18:46:49 <iz>	whoops, i meant this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
Jan 16 18:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	soon to be the tenth.
Jan 16 18:47:12 <iz>	mircea_popescu: great, maybe finally we won't be too big to fail
Jan 16 18:47:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16951 @ 0.00066525 = 11.2767 BTC [+]
Jan 16 18:47:24 <iz>	and we can pull an iceland
Jan 16 18:47:26 <nyRednek>	guys, let me know when mircea_popescu stops talking out of its ass so i can unignore
Jan 16 18:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	i'd be willing to  take bets that by 2015 the us economy will actually be smaller than germany's economy.
Jan 16 18:47:32 <mircea_popescu>	sadly there's no actual way to measure.
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Jan 16 18:48:01 <iz>	mircea_popescu: yeah, cuz the germans use metric and the us doesn't :b
Jan 16 18:48:07 <mircea_popescu>	key element :D
Jan 16 18:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	but i am kinda amused at the newb krugerite coming here and giving me advice about mpex and then getting offended when i don't happen to share his ignorance of economy.
Jan 16 18:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	this incidentally is exactly why i wouldn't buy the whole us for five bitcoins right now : pretty much made up entirely of this sort of stupid.
Jan 16 18:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	sure, there's exception. too much molasses around them to have a chance.
Jan 16 18:50:08 <thestringpuller>	cynical much?
Jan 16 18:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	kinda, yeah.
Jan 16 18:50:17 <nyRednek>	sorry, 2.6 trillion
Jan 16 18:50:49 <nyRednek>	iz, as far as it goes, though, one of the top four players fall, the whole world suffers...
Jan 16 18:51:17 <dub>	literally pocket change
Jan 16 18:51:21 <kakobrekla>	the more the world goes to shit, the better for bitcoin
Jan 16 18:51:24 <nyRednek>	so the us dollar and the euro are pretty critical to gobal economic health
Jan 16 18:51:25 <iz>	yeah, i'd tend to agree
Jan 16 18:51:31 <nyRednek>	global
Jan 16 18:51:42 <iz>	that's why iceland was able to do what they did.. just ignore all the debt, right?
Jan 16 18:52:00 <iz>	because they weren't in the top 3-4, they can do that and everyone else just absorbs the costs
Jan 16 18:52:07 <mircea_popescu>	iz i guess mostly cause they were small.
Jan 16 18:52:12 <iz>	exactly
Jan 16 18:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	and people didn;t want to argue with them for the obvious reason of publicity.
Jan 16 18:52:34 <mircea_popescu>	ie, others may see they actually have a point.
Jan 16 18:52:34 <iz>	i hate it when ppl try to argue with me that the US should have just followed iceland's lead and let all the banks fail instead of bailing them out
Jan 16 18:52:43 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Jan 16 18:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	i happen to think the same thing.
Jan 16 18:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7268 @ 0.00066486 = 4.8322 BTC [-]
Jan 16 18:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	course, this in retrospect.
Jan 16 18:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12807 @ 0.00065893 = 8.4389 BTC [-]
Jan 16 18:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	i can see why they tried, at the time, and why they couldn't stop, after they tried.
Jan 16 18:53:09 <thestringpuller>	too big to fail
Jan 16 18:53:16 <iz>	really?  well, it seems to me like that's something that only countries w/ small economies can do
Jan 16 18:53:18 <nyRednek>	that would have knocked the us into 3rd world status
Jan 16 18:53:18 <mircea_popescu>	so it's not really a "should have". more like a, that'd have been retrospectively the correct path
Jan 16 18:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	iz why ?
Jan 16 18:53:34 <nyRednek>	not overnight, but in a matter of months
Jan 16 18:53:35 <iz>	because someone has to foot the bill
Jan 16 18:53:49 <iz>	and it ends up being all the other contries that participate in the world economy, right?
Jan 16 18:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's just ego. no us politician can actually man up and say "listen, we fucked up. we were wriong.
Jan 16 18:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	welfare does not work, what we were trying to build doesn't work
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Jan 16 18:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	you are all lazy bums and thieves,
Jan 16 18:54:18 <iz>	if the biggest country tries to do this, they rest of they can't absorb that much loss that quickly
Jan 16 18:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	and if given a chance you will steal and idle rather than do somethinguseful
Jan 16 18:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	and in any case you're  too stupid by now to do anything useful anyway"
Jan 16 18:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	and that's that.
Jan 16 18:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	salaries go back to the economically warranted 5-600 usd a year
Jan 16 18:55:03 <jcpham>	http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/preventing-gun-violence
Jan 16 18:55:07 <jcpham>	conspiracy
Jan 16 18:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	people learn to live off rice and beans
Jan 16 18:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	rents go back towhat they are in the 3rd world and so on.
Jan 16 18:55:17 <jcpham>	no way the gubment can code this well this fast
Jan 16 18:55:21 <jcpham>	conspiracy
Jan 16 18:55:34 <iz>	mircea_popescu: i think it would affect the world economy too much
Jan 16 18:55:39 <jcpham>	that page is fucking sick though
Jan 16 18:55:44 <iz>	iceland could get away w/ it b/c they were small
Jan 16 18:55:48 <mircea_popescu>	iz : there is no "too much". it is what it is.
Jan 16 18:55:52 <dub>	protip: the "world eceomony" has like 10 years left anyway
Jan 16 18:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	take the pill and pay the dues.
Jan 16 18:56:03 <iz>	i don't understand why you say there isn't a "too much"
Jan 16 18:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	because there isn't.
Jan 16 18:56:09 <dub>	after that its back to eating each other
Jan 16 18:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	there is literally no limit to human suffering and hardship. none.
Jan 16 18:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	so, let it go back to where it has to go, rather than try and pretend for a coupl;a more years
Jan 16 18:56:51 <iz>	if a country wants to say "we fucked up, but we aren't going to pay our debts.. everyone else just absorb those costs and we're going to start over.. like country bankruptcy
Jan 16 18:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	that's not the deal.
Jan 16 18:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	it's we fucked up, we own nothing now
Jan 16 18:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	maybe we'll just all become indentured servants
Jan 16 18:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	or just starve
Jan 16 18:57:15 <dub>	MIT forcast it in the '70s and we have been tracking perfectly
Jan 16 18:57:18 <iz>	is that what iceland did too?
Jan 16 18:57:20 <mircea_popescu>	we'll see how generous you are
Jan 16 18:57:25 <iz>	i thought they just said we don't owe anything
Jan 16 18:57:32 <iz>	sorry for investing all your money in our banks
Jan 16 18:57:39 <iz>	but you guys all lost out too
Jan 16 18:57:44 <iz>	and we're starting over now
Jan 16 18:57:52 <mircea_popescu>	the two aren't distinct really.
Jan 16 18:57:55 <iz>	we all lost, but it happens.. restart now
Jan 16 18:58:23 <iz>	is my understanding incorrect re: iceland?
Jan 16 18:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think so.
Jan 16 18:58:43 *	iz nods
Jan 16 18:58:54 <mircea_popescu>	as far as i understand, the iceland thing was simply : banks are a private issue, the state does not back banks. figure it out.
Jan 16 18:58:54 <iz>	cool
Jan 16 18:59:01 <iz>	yeah
Jan 16 18:59:02 <nyRednek>	iz, that's exactly what iceland did
Jan 16 18:59:04 <iz>	that's what i thought also
Jan 16 18:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	ok. that doesn't translate to what you said
Jan 16 18:59:22 <iz>	so yeah.. i think they can only get away with that because they were so small relative to the rest of the world economy
Jan 16 18:59:40 <nyRednek>	iz, if the US did that, things would tank...no american could buy a chinese-made iphone with american money
Jan 16 18:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	they can get away with it because the gap between their real gdp and their nominal gdp was small
Jan 16 18:59:48 <mircea_popescu>	in the us the difference is more like 9x%
Jan 16 18:59:49 <iz>	if one of the largest world economies tried to do what iceland did, i think it would cause worldwide economical harm
Jan 16 18:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Jan 16 18:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16596 @ 0.00066525 = 11.0405 BTC [+]
Jan 16 19:00:05 <mircea_popescu>	it would just force a much more unpalatable "taking down a notch"
Jan 16 19:00:22 <nyRednek>	and if the chinese couldn't move their production out at same pace, they'd make less money
Jan 16 19:00:28 <iz>	hmm.. okay, i think i'm understanding what you're saying
Jan 16 19:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	here's the thing :
Jan 16 19:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	the average american citizen uses up about 20k worth of resources a year.
Jan 16 19:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	he produces something like 500 to 1k.
Jan 16 19:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	that's a 90ish % loss.
Jan 16 19:01:15 <nyRednek>	leaving the factory workers less money to spend, leaving things those factory workers buy with less money to produce things like food, beds, etc
Jan 16 19:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	if you stop pretending like what they're doing is useful,
Jan 16 19:01:20 <dub>	is that like maff and fings
Jan 16 19:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	you're forced to adjust their income to the real level.
Jan 16 19:01:24 <dub>	this is bitcoin
Jan 16 19:01:26 <nyRednek>	it spirals down quick
Jan 16 19:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	making us average salari about 400 bucks ? a year that is.
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Jan 16 19:01:56 <dub>	nyRednek: chinese factory workers are used to losing all their miney overnight though
Jan 16 19:02:16 <dub>	money*
Jan 16 19:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	now, the average american trying to live on 400 bucks a year would be a funny sight indeed.
Jan 16 19:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	but the world economy couldn't care less.
Jan 16 19:02:29 <nyRednek>	dub, maybe so, but americans unable to buy outside products would start starving(most of our food is imported)
Jan 16 19:02:40 <dub>	nyRednek: good
Jan 16 19:03:04 <dub>	drastic reduction in the number of americans would go a long way to solving the problem
Jan 16 19:03:05 <iz>	but how would the us maintain their obesity record?
Jan 16 19:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see how. donner party patent method maybe ?
Jan 16 19:03:18 <nyRednek>	dub, which problem?
Jan 16 19:03:21 <dub>	you're only delaying it as of now
Jan 16 19:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	now, understandably the political decision was made that this wouldn't be acceptable. but this is a purely internal affair of the us. i can sorta see why they thought this too :
Jan 16 19:03:44 <nyRednek>	iz, by hunting
Jan 16 19:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	if they keep it going for just a little longer the top people can finish getting out
Jan 16 19:03:54 <dub>	nyRednek: the problem with your economy not actually being one
Jan 16 19:04:15 <iz>	haha
Jan 16 19:04:16 <dub>	nyRednek: sorry I thought that was the subject
Jan 16 19:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	but otherwise, it's the same as any imploding rogue state.
Jan 16 19:04:22 <iz>	hunting w/ automatic assult rifles
Jan 16 19:04:26 <nyRednek>	dub, not actually being a problem?
Jan 16 19:04:35 <nyRednek>	iz, i use a longbow, personally
Jan 16 19:04:46 <dub>	nyRednek: no, not actually being an economy
Jan 16 19:05:08 <iz>	real answer though, as a hunter you realize there's not enough animals to sustain the population
Jan 16 19:05:11 <dub>	its a sick joke/debt ponzi
Jan 16 19:05:33 <nyRednek>	iz, i know this, but my family wouldn't be starving
Jan 16 19:05:35 <iz>	maybe hunting the most dangerous game for soylent green
Jan 16 19:05:45 <nyRednek>	iz, the other families can fuck themselves
Jan 16 19:05:46 <dub>	iz nailed it
Jan 16 19:06:11 <iz>	nyRednek: can't hunt the animals that aren't there because they've already been over hunted
Jan 16 19:06:23 <dub>	nyRednek also nailed the actual problem
Jan 16 19:06:43 <iz>	yeah, the real problem with food is water and ancient aquifirs
Jan 16 19:06:48 <nyRednek>	iz, most people don't know how to hunt, though...we live in an increasingly urban society
Jan 16 19:07:06 <iz>	that's true
Jan 16 19:07:31 <mircea_popescu>	CoinURL ceases its operation
Jan 16 19:07:36 <nyRednek>	iz, i could personally sustain my wife and children with animals that locals wouldn't think of hunting, that live under their noses
Jan 16 19:07:58 <dub>	whats coinurl?
Jan 16 19:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136900.0
Jan 16 19:08:08 <nyRednek>	namely, pigeons and turkeys
Jan 16 19:08:14 <iz>	ah yes... the prized nosegopher
Jan 16 19:08:19 <iz>	good eating
Jan 16 19:08:54 <kakobrekla>	>> Unluckily, as you could guess, hosting company decided to terminate my account as it is not just worth for them anymore.
Jan 16 19:08:55 <kakobrekla>	LOLWTF
Jan 16 19:08:56 <nyRednek>	i could walk half a mile up the street, and nail 20 pigeons before the rest understood that their survival is at stake
Jan 16 19:09:04 <kakobrekla>	no, i could not guess THAT
Jan 16 19:09:13 <dub>	mircea_popescu: lol 'derp'
Jan 16 19:09:29 <nyRednek>	kakobrekla, ?
Jan 16 19:09:48 <nyRednek>	kakobrekla, they terminated a paying customer's account...without a TOS violation?
Jan 16 19:09:49 <kakobrekla>	commentig coinurl
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Jan 16 19:09:54 <dub>	turns out bitcoiners don't spend money (because mom doesn't give them enough)
Jan 16 19:10:15 <kakobrekla>	i dunno what the deal was but it ready just wrong
Jan 16 19:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/coinurl-a-bitcoin-advertising-service/ for the lulz.
Jan 16 19:12:04 <kakobrekla>	i have a friend with a whole bladecenter intalled for some tiny change cause hosting co made a lousy contract
Jan 16 19:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	"There are many options. Delisting and telling everyone to just fuck off is exactly what can be expected form a narcissistic fucktard like Mircea Popescu.
Jan 16 19:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	Why not halt the trading for start and provide a way to work this out between investors and those thieving scumbags at BitVPS."
Jan 16 19:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	this guy is kinda stupid is he ?!
Jan 16 19:13:22 <dub>	dude
Jan 16 19:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00066525 = 11.5754 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 19:21:22 <jurov>	lol, bitvps kicked coinurl
Jan 16 19:21:40 <kakobrekla>	what
Jan 16 19:21:48 <kakobrekla>	lol r u srs
Jan 16 19:22:01 <kakobrekla>	you just dont do that.
Jan 16 19:22:04 <mircea_popescu>	jurov srsly ?!
Jan 16 19:22:30 <jurov>	yes, they were in the same datacenter as me, same balckout
Jan 16 19:22:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8750 @ 0.0047 = 41.125 BTC [+]
Jan 16 19:22:53 <thestringpuller>	oh no bad bvps press
Jan 16 19:23:16 <kakobrekla>	meh srsly you get a top notch root server for 50euros a month
Jan 16 19:23:33 <jurov>	sorry i mixed it up
Jan 16 19:23:39 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.msg1414370#msg1414370
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Jan 16 19:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller there is btc press ?
Jan 16 19:23:58 <jurov>	it was operationfabulous , another ad network
Jan 16 19:25:13 <jurov>	yes, something called trilema
Jan 16 19:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	what ?
Jan 16 19:26:08 <jurov>	you know that thing with porn syndication
Jan 16 19:27:16 <jurov>	that's the bitcoin press :P
Jan 16 19:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	i heard that name somehow before!
Jan 16 19:30:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 613 @ 0.0047 = 2.8811 BTC [+]
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Jan 16 19:33:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 16 19:33:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.64351, Best ask: 14.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05648, Last trade: 14.69999, 24 hour volume: 45851.62111428, 24 hour low: 14.21001, 24 hour high: 14.75000, 24 hour vwap: 14.52390
Jan 16 19:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	o wow. 15 ?
Jan 16 19:34:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.43 = 3.01 BTC [-]
Jan 16 19:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/83/s-dice-down-to-0-003xx-per-share-feb-11/
Jan 16 19:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	this one looks sweet
Jan 16 19:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	hmm, anyone here with a btctc account ?
Jan 16 19:50:34 <jcpham>	;;asks 25
Jan 16 19:50:36 <gribble>	There are currently 49313.389 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 878896.357055 USD in total.
Jan 16 19:52:01 <dub>	time for a crash
Jan 16 19:52:18 <jcpham>	not a lot of volume to 25
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Jan 16 19:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;bids 10
Jan 16 19:52:56 <gribble>	There are currently 97005.469 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 1252122.45239 USD in total.
Jan 16 19:52:59 <jcpham>	i doubt it'll happen but that's interesting
Jan 16 19:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	i think a runup much more likely.
Jan 16 19:53:17 <jcpham>	oh yeah for sure
Jan 16 19:53:31 <jcpham>	i expected more when i picked an arbitrarily high number
Jan 16 19:53:39 <mircea_popescu>	ya seems incredibly sparse.
Jan 16 19:58:22 <jcpham>	http://blog.dwolla.com/person-to-person-for-banks-in-a-line-of-code/
Jan 16 19:58:34 <jcpham>	i like dwolla at first, now meh
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Jan 16 20:06:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.43 = 0.86 BTC [-]
Jan 16 20:09:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9293 @ 0.00065893 = 6.1234 BTC [-]
Jan 16 20:09:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6183 @ 0.00065305 = 4.0378 BTC [-]
Jan 16 20:11:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.0064 = 0.16 BTC [+]
Jan 16 20:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like linode.
Jan 16 20:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	so nobody has a btctc account ?
Jan 16 20:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	omfg are these people insane ? curl unencrypted ?
Jan 16 20:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	suppose i eavesdrop it and repeat.
Jan 16 20:14:25 <kakobrekla>	its a post over https
Jan 16 20:14:30 <kakobrekla>	not ideal
Jan 16 20:14:35 <kakobrekla>	but not plaintxt
Jan 16 20:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	well no, not plaintext but omfg
Jan 16 20:19:19 <jcpham>	cutting edge
Jan 16 20:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	i suppose they periodicly audit make sure no ex-linode employe is running a promiscuous sniffer anywhere on their network.
Jan 16 20:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. anyone here want to pick up that coinurl thing and run it sanely ?
Jan 16 20:23:01 <thestringpuller>	jcpham: that looks just like simplepay or what was doing with the https curl command
Jan 16 20:23:10 <thestringpuller>	*waves hand*
Jan 16 20:23:53 <thestringpuller>	i will buy it for 1 bitcoin
Jan 16 20:23:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 420 @ 0.01 = 4.2 BTC [+]
Jan 16 20:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	"Our case
Jan 16 20:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	study used a cognitive walkthrough analysis together
Jan 16 20:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	with a laboratory user test to evaluate whether PGP 5.0
Jan 16 20:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	can be successfully used by cryptography novices to
Jan 16 20:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	achieve effective electronic mail security. The analysis
Jan 16 20:24:06 <mircea_popescu>	found a number of user interface design flaws that may
Jan 16 20:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	contribute to security failures, and the user test
Jan 16 20:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	demonstrated that when our test participants were given
Jan 16 20:24:12 <mircea_popescu>	90 minutes in which to sign and encrypt a message
Jan 16 20:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	using PGP 5.0, the majority of them were unable to do
Jan 16 20:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	so successfully. "
Jan 16 20:24:24 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 16 20:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	my results are strangely better than that.
Jan 16 20:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	i guess self selected scope ?
Jan 16 20:24:54 <kakobrekla>	where is this from
Jan 16 20:25:50 <mircea_popescu>	a study im reading
Jan 16 20:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	Alma Whitten / Carnegie Mellon University. Why Johnny Can’t Encrypt:A Usability Evaluation of PGP 5.0
Jan 16 20:28:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 851 @ 0.00538507 = 4.5827 BTC [-]
Jan 16 20:28:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00539131 = 5.3913 BTC [+]
Jan 16 20:37:02 <thestringpuller>	jcpham: Dwolla's code isn't this bad http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5026802
Jan 16 20:39:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14717 @ 0.00065305 = 9.6109 BTC [-]
Jan 16 20:39:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4383 @ 0.00065302 = 2.8622 BTC [-]
Jan 16 20:39:41 <mircea_popescu>	"You guys are fantastic. You documentation is clear. The fact that you all live on the IRC channels makes obtaining information and help super simple."
Jan 16 20:40:00 <mircea_popescu>	im going to go troll balanced payments irc channel nao
Jan 16 20:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	anyone with me ?
Jan 16 20:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	its #balanced ftr
Jan 16 20:41:45 <thestringpuller>	is having an irc channel the hip thing to do?
Jan 16 20:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	certainly.
Jan 16 20:42:15 <kakobrekla>	well, we have one.
Jan 16 20:42:18 <thestringpuller>	i thought it was about having a usenet group
Jan 16 20:42:24 <thestringpuller>	i thought that was the cool thing these days
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Jan 16 20:48:06 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Jan 16 20:48:24 <thestringpuller>	20:47 < ajsharp> i can't tell if you're trolling or not
Jan 16 20:49:12 <mircea_popescu>	i wasn't even ;/
Jan 16 20:50:37 <thestringpuller>	look at that guys: https://github.com/balanced/balanced-api/issues/204 they have someeone who wanted to add bitcoin
Jan 16 20:52:39 <thestringpuller>	Each of Balanced.s customers is a potential Bitcoin merchant. Zaarly is using Balanced to provide payments handling for its peer-to-peer task market. Instead of Zaarly having to build its own, it can used Balanced.s API. With Bitcoin there is a little different flow. You can.t pull funds from a Bitcoin user. Bitcoin is push only. But Balanced also handles the payout component. And that is a push transaction. Bal
Jan 16 20:52:47 <thestringpuller>	But Balanced shows what is needed by the marketplace . a path that a Bitcoin variant could follow. Balanced is offered in the U.S. only. A bitcoin-variant could operate globally.
Jan 16 20:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... "we don't know, and don't wanna talk about it"
Jan 16 20:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	a well.
Jan 16 20:54:14 <thestringpuller>	the github issue has some answers
Jan 16 20:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	im reading it nao
Jan 16 20:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	there's absolutel;y nothing there.
Jan 16 20:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	i'm sorry, but on the balance of this assesment balancedpayments is worth ~0, inflation adjusted.
Jan 16 20:59:12 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: simple.com
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Jan 16 21:13:37 <dub>	u gais are famous https://www.balancedpayments.com/help
Jan 16 21:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	look at me ma, i'm on an obscure start-up site! it won't go anywhere!
Jan 16 21:21:54 <dub>	good arb op there eh?
Jan 16 21:22:09 <dub>	[21:19] <bitcoinRT> Jan17 02:18:34 mtgox  x194 3,924.8646 @    14.83496831 USD
Jan 16 21:22:13 <dub>	[21:19] <bitcoinRT> Jan17 02:18:34 mtgox  x229 3,999.9658 @    14.42321997 AUD
Jan 16 21:22:31 <mircea_popescu>	what's bitcoinrt ?
Jan 16 21:22:50 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell Bugpowder looks like people are putting basic point spread bets on bitbet now
Jan 16 21:22:50 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 16 21:22:51 <dub>	gox ticker
Jan 16 21:23:08 <dub>	websocket pipe whatever
Jan 16 21:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	i guess, if anyone is ready to close aud-usd circuit
Jan 16 21:25:49 <dub>	;;ticker
Jan 16 21:25:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.78900, Best ask: 14.84339, Bid-ask spread: 0.05439, Last trade: 14.78900, 24 hour volume: 48112.84457123, 24 hour low: 14.21001, 24 hour high: 14.92000, 24 hour vwap: 14.57203
Jan 16 21:27:30 <thestringpuller>	http://blockbet.net - here come the pseudo-clones
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Jan 16 21:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00574528 = 1.4363 BTC [+]
Jan 16 21:44:51 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller there have been like... i think a dozen since the ipo
Jan 16 21:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 16 21:46:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.90001, Best ask: 14.91999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01998, Last trade: 14.91999, 24 hour volume: 48305.04798786, 24 hour low: 14.21001, 24 hour high: 14.92000, 24 hour vwap: 14.57849
Jan 16 21:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	definitely 15 tonight.
Jan 16 21:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;asks 15
Jan 16 21:47:05 <gribble>	There are currently 7912.5205 bitcoins offered at or under 15.0 USD, worth 118573.407675 USD in total.
Jan 16 21:47:50 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 14.90
Jan 16 21:47:52 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 14.9 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 16 21:47:59 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 14.80
Jan 16 21:48:01 <gribble>	There are currently 180.31955 bitcoins demanded at or over 14.8 USD, worth 2674.22552159 USD in total.
Jan 16 21:48:26 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 14.85
Jan 16 21:48:28 <gribble>	There are currently 23.426751 bitcoins demanded at or over 14.85 USD, worth 349.058673438 USD in total.
Jan 16 21:49:14 <kakobrekla>	weekly forecast bet can be resolved early :)
Jan 16 21:53:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/140/bitcoin-will-hit-15-before-february-1st/ ?
Jan 16 21:53:13 <mircea_popescu>	still not 15
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Jan 16 21:53:47 <kakobrekla>	no, ziz one http://bitbet.us/bet/129/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-below-14-86-and/
Jan 16 21:54:00 <kakobrekla>	enky lost hehe
Jan 16 21:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	yee
Jan 16 21:58:39 <error4733>	any clue for the SD jump ?
Jan 16 21:59:00 <kakobrekla>	bbet ran out of shares so they went for second best
Jan 16 22:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Jan 16 22:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 supply and demand i imagine.
Jan 16 22:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	seems in bitcoin demand is a sharply increasing inverse of supply.
Jan 16 22:01:59 <mircea_popescu>	in retrospect maybe not surprising, given the nature of the btc game.
Jan 16 22:04:07 <kakobrekla>	inverse supply you mean all the scams or the block reward drop?
Jan 16 22:04:16 <kakobrekla>	;)
Jan 16 22:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	i mean the wider the supply, the lower the demand
Jan 16 22:05:26 <mircea_popescu>	but once supply dwindles demand explodes.
Jan 16 22:05:50 <kakobrekla>	isnt this same case as producers and consumers
Jan 16 22:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like childrend and toys. when nobody is playing nobody else wants to play. as toys become unavailable the desire to play increases
Jan 16 22:05:53 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 16 22:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it's like producers and consumers in a strange market
Jan 16 22:06:23 <error4733>	same for my wife
Jan 16 22:06:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol she in demand when you want her and idle otherwise ?
Jan 16 22:07:13 <error4733>	she's not involved
Jan 16 22:07:15 <error4733>	:D
Jan 16 22:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Jan 16 22:07:27 <kakobrekla>	yeah fuckin hoarding non-toy-sharing kids
Jan 16 22:08:30 <error4733>	if SD up to 0.006 and btc hit 15$ i almost double my invest in 2 weeks
Jan 16 22:08:39 <error4733>	insane
Jan 16 22:08:41 <kakobrekla>	dun worry is a ponzee
Jan 16 22:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 someone was publishing his portofolio graph earlier and it looked quite exponential
Jan 16 22:09:02 <kakobrekla>	also
Jan 16 22:09:04 <kakobrekla>	pirate paid
Jan 16 22:09:10 <kakobrekla>	yesterday!
Jan 16 22:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	whom ?
Jan 16 22:09:31 <kakobrekla>	aww cmon, recognize the meme
Jan 16 22:09:33 <kakobrekla>	:p
Jan 16 22:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol deadpan
Jan 16 22:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 16 22:09:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.91002, Best ask: 14.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00998, Last trade: 14.91002, 24 hour volume: 47727.52297059, 24 hour low: 14.21001, 24 hour high: 14.92000, 24 hour vwap: 14.58642
Jan 16 22:10:30 <Diablo-D3>	heh, we're reaching 15
Jan 16 22:12:09 <mircea_popescu>	50 cents off the vwap, that's pretty strong action.
Jan 16 22:12:16 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Jan 16 22:12:30 <Diablo-D3>	the market needs to pause for awhile to keep us at this level
Jan 16 22:12:46 <Diablo-D3>	I dont want to see another $30 spike and crash
Jan 16 22:12:55 <Diablo-D3>	thats not useful for the longterm viability of bitcoins
Jan 16 22:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.31226848 = 312.2685 BTC [+]
Jan 16 22:13:24 <error4733>	not the same input for this raise
Jan 16 22:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.24364587 = 243.6459 BTC [+]
Jan 16 22:13:37 <Diablo-D3>	error4733: but it can be
Jan 16 22:13:41 <Diablo-D3>	the $30 spike was panic buying
Jan 16 22:13:45 <Diablo-D3>	theres no reason that cant be repeated
Jan 16 22:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 im not so sure it matters by now.
Jan 16 22:14:28 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well, I'd like to see us at $100 perm
Jan 16 22:14:42 <mircea_popescu>	i think 2013 will prolly do that.
Jan 16 22:15:00 <Diablo-D3>	well, what Im saying is, we need a firm foundation to continue building on
Jan 16 22:15:17 <error4733>	well i have a bet wit ha friend, BTC double this year
Jan 16 22:15:32 <error4733>	28$ before 1 JAN 2104
Jan 16 22:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	prolly pretty safe bet.
Jan 16 22:15:48 <Diablo-D3>	error4733: high or year end?
Jan 16 22:15:57 <Diablo-D3>	because we'll likely see a $28 high
Jan 16 22:16:11 <Diablo-D3>	but a 50/50 chance of $28 or higher becoming the new norm
Jan 16 22:16:17 <nyRednek>	but after dec 25, it's bound to drop
Jan 16 22:16:31 <error4733>	no 28 or more stable price
Jan 16 22:16:48 <error4733>	more than 1 week
Jan 16 22:17:11 <nyRednek>	well, before btc can be taken truly seriously as a securities market, hard securities need to be traded in it
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Jan 16 22:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	the showmanship is the problem.
Jan 16 22:35:33 <Diablo-D3>	whoever produces the smallest lightest easiest mvp wins
Jan 16 22:35:35 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: exactly
Jan 16 22:35:41 *	You are now known as Guest39930
Jan 16 22:35:42 <nyRednek>	mvp?
Jan 16 22:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	in their constant quest for "insight" about companies they kept going into sidechannels
Jan 16 22:35:48 <Diablo-D3>	nyRednek: minimum viable product
Jan 16 22:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	by now all they're doing is comparing which "team" has the weirdest approach to stand-up
Jan 16 22:36:00 <nyRednek>	oh...yeah
Jan 16 22:36:07 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: basically yes
Jan 16 22:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	ya well it's stupid.
Jan 16 22:36:15 <Diablo-D3>	they're starting to feedback into themselves weirdly
Jan 16 22:36:28 <Diablo-D3>	like, whowever has the most unique weirdest circus act wins
Jan 16 22:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	i don't pick girls by the criterion "largest tit most exposed"
Jan 16 22:36:38 <nyRednek>	Diablo-D3, i typically like viable products and services
Jan 16 22:36:48 <Diablo-D3>	its like a competition of The Aristocrats
Jan 16 22:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	if i did, i'd have an excuse. unlike them.
Jan 16 22:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 16 22:38:04 <nyRednek>	at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is profit
Jan 16 22:38:19 <nyRednek>	make a profit or go home
Jan 16 22:38:24 <Diablo-D3>	nyRednek: nope
Jan 16 22:38:29 <Diablo-D3>	profit ISNT the number one goal
Jan 16 22:38:33 <Diablo-D3>	long term value is
Jan 16 22:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	jesus you've been studying ?
Jan 16 22:39:11 <nyRednek>	Diablo-D3, long term value comes from sustained positive cash flow, which ends up making the business profitable
Jan 16 22:39:35 <Diablo-D3>	nyRednek: not always
Jan 16 22:39:48 <Diablo-D3>	there are companies that hold massive assets that have pretty shitty cash flow
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Jan 16 22:40:03 <Diablo-D3>	they're not horrible companies, just maybe mediocre corporate leadership
Jan 16 22:40:06 <nyRednek>	at that point, they are worth what you can liquidate them for
Jan 16 22:40:29 <Bugpowder>	nyRednek Be careful, if you hang out here much longer you will end up owning some bitcoin securities
Jan 16 22:40:29 <Diablo-D3>	the cash flow is positive, dont get me wrong, its just not that far from zero
Jan 16 22:40:42 <Diablo-D3>	constant cashflow is better than large profits
Jan 16 22:40:53 <smickles>	hmm
Jan 16 22:41:00 <nyRednek>	constant positive cash flow
Jan 16 22:41:08 <Bugpowder>	mmm  the new pympex is great
Jan 16 22:41:20 <Bugpowder>	the interface I deserve
Jan 16 22:41:25 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: btw, what do you mean studying?
Jan 16 22:41:36 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 16 22:42:49 <Bugpowder>	elance is f'ing amazing
Jan 16 22:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 you know, books.
Jan 16 22:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder o ?
Jan 16 22:43:01 <Bugpowder>	I can hire an awesome pakistani programmer
Jan 16 22:43:04 <Bugpowder>	for $20/hr
Jan 16 22:43:08 <Bugpowder>	to do my bidding
Jan 16 22:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	cool huh.
Jan 16 22:43:19 <mircea_popescu>	better than webcams, imo.
Jan 16 22:43:26 <nyRednek>	you could get a good indonesian programmer for half that
Jan 16 22:43:34 <Bugpowder>	and you get screen caps every 10 minutes
Jan 16 22:43:46 <Bugpowder>	yeah I could pay less but this is a bit tricky job
Jan 16 22:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, read the code
Jan 16 22:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	better discover keyloggers early than late.
Jan 16 22:43:55 <Bugpowder>	ha
Jan 16 22:44:12 <Bugpowder>	CSV isn't hiding much
Jan 16 22:44:21 <Bugpowder>	I just need data collected
Jan 16 22:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	a
Jan 16 22:44:36 <Bugpowder>	from things that require mouseover ajax calls
Jan 16 22:44:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: its not like securities are a new thing for me
Jan 16 22:44:54 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: Ive been laughing at wall street since I was a kid
Jan 16 22:45:00 <nyRednek>	Bugpowder, ah....
Jan 16 22:45:02 <nyRednek>	Bugpowder, i actually do own a couple
Jan 16 22:45:02 <nyRednek>	Bugpowder, equivalently penny stocks
Jan 16 22:45:02 <Diablo-D3>	it never made sense to me because it all looked like a giant ponzi
Jan 16 22:45:38 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: and over the past, oh, 5 years or so, Ive learned why it never made sense, it really is just a giant scam
Jan 16 22:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	well, it's a good point nonetheless.
Jan 16 22:46:03 <mircea_popescu>	it has been kinda scammy since about 2nd bush term.
Jan 16 22:46:12 <Diablo-D3>	its been kinda scammy since the 70s
Jan 16 22:46:15 <Diablo-D3>	before I was born
Jan 16 22:46:27 <Diablo-D3>	and various long term shit has been going on since before ww2
Jan 16 22:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	i kinda liked it in the 90s.
Jan 16 22:46:37 <Diablo-D3>	before the dotcom bust?
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Jan 16 22:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	nah, late 90s
Jan 16 22:46:55 <Diablo-D3>	during the recovery?
Jan 16 22:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	during the bust.
Jan 16 22:47:21 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Jan 16 22:47:28 <Diablo-D3>	there was lots of money to be made from that
Jan 16 22:47:54 <mircea_popescu>	for some reason it's easier for me to pick companies that will fail than ones that will succeed.
Jan 16 22:48:01 <Diablo-D3>	I know people who made money during the bubble, and then lost it when it popped; made it and kept it; and then made it DURING the pop
Jan 16 22:48:07 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: weird
Jan 16 22:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	possibly because i'm an asshole.
Jan 16 22:48:14 <Diablo-D3>	I have trouble picking companies that will fail
Jan 16 22:48:31 <mircea_popescu>	that's ok, you don't need to pick em, you make em :D
Jan 16 22:48:36 <Diablo-D3>	I think my selection criteria of safe bets is too conservative
Jan 16 22:48:41 <Diablo-D3>	hurrrrr
Jan 16 22:48:46 <mircea_popescu>	mwahaha'
Jan 16 22:48:48 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: like I said, I had lots of community help on that one
Jan 16 22:48:56 <Bugpowder>	bust started with MSTR
Jan 16 22:49:25 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: everyone got to walk away with a sore asshole after the GLBSE bust
Jan 16 22:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder to this day i didn't understand what microstrategy was making.
Jan 16 22:49:59 <Bugpowder>	business intelligence
Jan 16 22:50:08 <Bugpowder>	they are still around
Jan 16 22:50:11 <Diablo-D3>	what the fuck does that even mean
Jan 16 22:50:11 <Bugpowder>	pretty big
Jan 16 22:50:37 <Bugpowder>	Like using algorithms to optimize internal shit
Jan 16 22:51:00 <Diablo-D3>	thats insane
Jan 16 22:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder no, srsly ? using algorithms to optimize internal shit ?
Jan 16 22:51:25 <Bugpowder>	insane?
Jan 16 22:51:26 <Diablo-D3>	as a programmer and as someone who views both the law and business as domain specific languages, thats insane
Jan 16 22:51:39 <Bugpowder>	He lost 15 billion in the bust
Jan 16 22:51:44 <Bugpowder>	Sailor
Jan 16 22:51:51 <Bugpowder>	saylor
Jan 16 22:52:34 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, when you lose 15 billion, the money didnt even really exist
Jan 16 22:52:55 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: back me up about the insanity part
Jan 16 22:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	when you have 15bn you don't have that money.
Jan 16 22:53:13 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i dunno either way. i still don't really comprehend what they did.
Jan 16 22:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	it's somewhere between "dressing up mathlab for idiots" and "conversations with aliens and spirits of the departed"
Jan 16 22:53:56 <Diablo-D3>	yes, but both of those ARE valid business models
Jan 16 22:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	well the aliens part at least.
Jan 16 22:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	VerizOrion
Jan 16 22:54:23 <Bugpowder>	still doing ok i guess
Jan 16 22:54:24 <Bugpowder>	http://fortunebrainstormtech.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/michael_saylor_yacht_friends.jpg
Jan 16 22:54:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder seems kinda crowded :D
Jan 16 22:55:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.421 BTC [-]
Jan 16 22:55:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-]
Jan 16 22:55:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 20 @ 0.411 = 8.22 BTC [-]
Jan 16 22:55:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.411 = 0.822 BTC [-]
Jan 16 22:56:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.4459 BTC [+]
Jan 16 22:56:34 <nyRednek>	kickass, it just got approved
Jan 16 22:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	so... nobody with a btctc account ?
Jan 16 22:57:14 <nyRednek>	oh, nvm
Jan 16 22:57:18 <nyRednek>	different
Jan 16 22:57:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00066568 = 5.5917 BTC [+]
Jan 16 23:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00066568 = 14.645 BTC [+]
Jan 16 23:03:29 <Bugpowder>	Anyone else notice that there has be some semi-whale like action on s.dice tonight?
Jan 16 23:03:29 <Bugpowder>	http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=100&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Jan 16 23:03:50 <Bugpowder>	couple 100s, a 250
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Jan 16 23:07:03 <mircea_popescu>	semi-whale lol
Jan 16 23:07:13 <mircea_popescu>	what, only 100k bet or something ?
Jan 16 23:08:49 <Bugpowder>	nah
Jan 16 23:08:55 <Bugpowder>	nothing that big
Jan 16 23:09:13 <error4733>	good, SD run under EV for one week
Jan 16 23:09:50 <Bugpowder>	yeah, SDICE up 1300 in the last 100 bets over 10
Jan 16 23:09:59 <error4733>	wait
Jan 16 23:10:07 <error4733>	where do u see that
Jan 16 23:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.24450216 = 244.5022 BTC [+]
Jan 16 23:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.31321887 = 313.2189 BTC [+]
Jan 16 23:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 16 23:11:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.85109, Best ask: 14.89897, Bid-ask spread: 0.04788, Last trade: 14.89897, 24 hour volume: 45268.43294958, 24 hour low: 14.35600, 24 hour high: 14.92000, 24 hour vwap: 14.62078
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Jan 16 23:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m c11ot
Jan 16 23:11:23 <assbot>	I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
Jan 16 23:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m c110t
Jan 16 23:11:26 <assbot>	Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
Jan 16 23:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m o.btcusd.c110t
Jan 16 23:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1D: 0.31226848 / 0.31274367 / 0.31321887 (2000 shares, 625.49 BTC), 7D: 0.21996239 / 0.28818392 / 0.31321887 (2720 shares, 783.86 BTC), 30D: 0.16843117 / 0.25993706 / 0.31321887 (10665 shares, 2,772.23 BTC)
Jan 16 23:12:08 <Bugpowder>	Please let this bill pass
Jan 16 23:12:09 <Bugpowder>	http://lofgren.house.gov/images/stories/pdf/draft%20lofgren%20bill%20to%20exclude%20terms%20of%20service%20violations%20from%20cfaa%20%20wre%20fraud%20011513.pdf
Jan 16 23:12:20 <Bugpowder>	error4733 on my google doc importer
Jan 16 23:12:51 <Bugpowder>	Try this line
Jan 16 23:12:52 <Bugpowder>	=ImportHtml("http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL","table",0)
Jan 16 23:13:04 <Bugpowder>	in the first cell of a google spreadsheet
Jan 16 23:13:20 <Bugpowder>	then you can build your own analysis around it
Jan 16 23:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9646 @ 0.00066568 = 6.4211 BTC [+]
Jan 16 23:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00066642 = 5.1314 BTC [+]
Jan 16 23:14:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 254 @ 0.0006698 = 0.1701 BTC [+]
Jan 16 23:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00066482 = 2.7962 BTC [-]
Jan 16 23:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3594 @ 0.00065882 = 2.3678 BTC [-]
Jan 16 23:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder who sponsored that ?
Jan 16 23:16:25 <Bugpowder>	http://lofgren.house.gov
Jan 16 23:16:33 <Bugpowder>	"Aaron's law"
Jan 16 23:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	pretty good.
Jan 16 23:16:41 <Bugpowder>	Let the scraping commence!
Jan 16 23:16:52 <Bugpowder>	Repping silicon valley
Jan 16 23:17:13 <error4733>	@bug : ok and ? some manip to do ?
Jan 16 23:17:19 <Bugpowder>	dude
Jan 16 23:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://lofgren.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=771:rep-zoe-lofgren-asks-reddit-users-to-crowdsource-legislative-proposals-on-domain-name-seizures&catid=22:112th-news&Itemid=161
Jan 16 23:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	also
Jan 16 23:17:27 <Bugpowder>	you can work a spreadsheet
Jan 16 23:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, that's all for me. catch you all laters!
Jan 16 23:17:50 <Bugpowder>	me 2
Jan 16 23:17:52 <Bugpowder>	later
Jan 16 23:17:58 <Bugpowder>	the upstreak continues!
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Jan 16 23:18:51 <error4733>	as i'm new with googledrive sorry to ask again
Jan 16 23:19:06 <error4733>	so i open a new sheet : done
Jan 16 23:19:21 <Bugpowder>	paste that code in upper corner
Jan 16 23:19:22 <Bugpowder>	win
Jan 16 23:19:23 <error4733>	i copypaste your code in the first cell
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Jan 16 23:20:34 <smickles>	Anyone want to help me design the site for Smickles Accounting Services?
Jan 16 23:21:05 <smickles>	now that the company is formed, it can actually get this sort of stuff done
Jan 16 23:21:47 <error4733>	BIM thanks bugpowder
Jan 16 23:21:56 <error4733>	forgot the =
Jan 16 23:21:57 <kakobrekla>	i can make you a logo! heres my references smickles http://shrani.si/f/x/s3/10jcfKA9/logo.jpg
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Jan 16 23:22:29 <kakobrekla>	25btc
Jan 16 23:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00065882 = 3.7553 BTC [-]
Jan 16 23:23:22 <error4733>	btc
Jan 16 23:23:26 <error4733>	20btc
Jan 16 23:23:35 <kakobrekla>	naw u mad?
Jan 16 23:24:06 <smickles>	kakobrekla: you sir, are hired. but one thing: we need more dildos
Jan 16 23:24:21 <kakobrekla>	sure, but its gonna cost you.
Jan 16 23:26:12 <smickles>	jezus, logos are expensive
Jan 16 23:26:35 <dub>	talk to jcpham re: dildos
Jan 16 23:26:47 <kakobrekla>	he gots em for cheap?
Jan 16 23:27:47 <jcpham>	so funny
Jan 16 23:28:05 *	jcpham remembers to log into amazon to cancel that dildo that is out of stock
Jan 16 23:28:10 <jcpham>	they keep calling me
Jan 16 23:28:41 <jcpham>	a lady named Susan has been calling me for teo days asking what to do about an out of stock dildo
Jan 16 23:28:47 <jcpham>	true story.
Jan 16 23:29:15 <dub>	sir were not gonna be able to fill that dildo order, what?, or sorry is your dad home?
Jan 16 23:29:23 <dub>	s/or/oh
Jan 16 23:29:29 <jcpham>	i don't know what to tell her
Jan 16 23:29:41 <jcpham>	i've been so busy i keep forgetting to ask my wife
Jan 16 23:30:00 <jcpham>	i'm certainly not going to text her my dildo question
Jan 16 23:30:14 <dub>	email to work addr
Jan 16 23:30:19 <jcpham>	but i've shared too much
Jan 16 23:30:39 <jcpham>	dub must mind rays
Jan 16 23:30:43 <jcpham>	*hust have
Jan 16 23:30:56 <smickles>	!!
Jan 16 23:31:06 <smickles>	I have found the company themesong!
Jan 16 23:31:08 <smickles>	https://www.pond5.com/stock-music/10682694/happy-chiptune-full-song.html
Jan 16 23:32:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9897 @ 0.0006698 = 6.629 BTC [+]
Jan 16 23:36:08 <smickles>	If I weren't trying to actually run a business, i'd get the 46 second seamless loop version of that and make it autoplay on page load
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Jan 16 23:47:45 <error4733>	bugpowder: i find -996 BTC so far... wtf i'm doing wrong :D
Jan 16 23:48:50 <error4733>	SUM H - SUM J =-996  no +1300
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Jan 16 23:55:09 <error4733>	My bad i SUM the last 1000 bet, no the last 100
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Jan 17 00:05:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0065 = 0.013 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 00:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+]
Jan 17 00:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00066008 = 5.7427 BTC [-]
Jan 17 00:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00065987 = 3.5963 BTC [-]
Jan 17 00:43:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33 = 0.99 BTC [+]
Jan 17 00:48:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.439 = 0.878 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 01:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8234 @ 0.0006698 = 5.5151 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 01:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2218 @ 0.0006698 = 1.4856 BTC [+]
Jan 17 01:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4482 @ 0.00067027 = 3.0042 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 01:28:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00066753 = 13.9514 BTC [-]
Jan 17 01:41:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00066753 = 0.8678 BTC [-]
Jan 17 01:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00065987 = 7.3576 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 02:05:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 762 @ 0.00574528 = 4.3779 BTC [+]
Jan 17 02:08:19 <Namworld>	S.DICE too cheap
Jan 17 02:08:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0065 = 0.013 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 02:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 976 @ 0.00585142 = 5.711 BTC [+]
Jan 17 02:19:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 24 @ 0.00573305 = 0.1376 BTC [-]
Jan 17 02:20:21 <Namworld>	S.DICE cheaper now =/
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Jan 17 03:19:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.421 = 0.842 BTC [-]
Jan 17 03:40:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 04:44:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11389 @ 0.00066217 = 7.5415 BTC [+]
Jan 17 04:59:31 <EskimoBob>	is it getting ready to drop after this huge jump?
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Jan 17 05:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 17 05:23:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.85001, Best ask: 14.87999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last trade: 14.88000, 24 hour volume: 43785.59666564, 24 hour low: 14.42508, 24 hour high: 14.92000, 24 hour vwap: 14.66609
Jan 17 05:25:00 <Diablo-D3>	awaaaaaaaaAAaaaaAAAaaaAAaaAAAAAAAaaAAAAAAaaaAAaaAAaAAAy we gooooo
Jan 17 05:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.005879 = 2.3516 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 06:03:05 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham smickles check it out : i'm getting sued! 1st rota case http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
Jan 17 06:03:28 <Diablo-D3>	lolwat
Jan 17 06:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Jan 17 06:27:24 <EskimoBob>	even bitfunder sees action
Jan 17 06:27:59 <EskimoBob>	not really, number of shares is really tiny :(
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Jan 17 06:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsj-37UrxeM
Jan 17 06:57:50 <mircea_popescu>	welcome to the 90s all over again
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Jan 17 07:04:50 <EskimoBob>	this chat log here reads like a comedy or something
Jan 17 07:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1811 @ 0.00066217 = 1.1992 BTC [+]
Jan 17 07:11:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00066194 = 5.5272 BTC [-]
Jan 17 07:11:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7139 @ 0.00065987 = 4.7108 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 07:22:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18208 @ 0.00065987 = 12.0149 BTC [-]
Jan 17 07:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5392 @ 0.00065943 = 3.5556 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 07:53:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8858 @ 0.00065943 = 5.8412 BTC [-]
Jan 17 07:54:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12042 @ 0.0006592 = 7.9381 BTC [-]
Jan 17 07:59:08 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 17 07:59:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.85117, Best ask: 14.91196, Bid-ask spread: 0.06079, Last trade: 14.91196, 24 hour volume: 46332.20423688, 24 hour low: 14.45000, 24 hour high: 14.92000, 24 hour vwap: 14.70084
Jan 17 08:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/V1gyt.jpg
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Jan 17 08:09:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/01/15/bitcoinstore-plans-to-take-on-the-world-of-online-electronics-retail-with-btc/
Jan 17 08:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	seems this one is happening.
Jan 17 08:09:43 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Jan 17 08:13:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.0006592 = 9.6573 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 08:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00579708 = 2.8985 BTC [-]
Jan 17 08:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 176 @ 0.00573305 = 1.009 BTC [-]
Jan 17 08:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9278 @ 0.00066312 = 6.1524 BTC [+]
Jan 17 08:26:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21150 @ 0.00066541 = 14.0734 BTC [+]
Jan 17 08:26:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20509 @ 0.00066974 = 13.7357 BTC [+]
Jan 17 08:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13868 @ 0.00067027 = 9.2953 BTC [+]
Jan 17 08:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00067029 = 11.5625 BTC [+]
Jan 17 08:26:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.0006714 = 3.8606 BTC [+]
Jan 17 08:26:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20450 @ 0.00067238 = 13.7502 BTC [+]
Jan 17 08:26:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75000 @ 0.0006725 = 50.4375 BTC [+]
Jan 17 08:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8674 @ 0.00067289 = 5.8366 BTC [+]
Jan 17 08:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18071 @ 0.00067375 = 12.1753 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 08:39:15 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 17 08:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00473687 / 0.00503935 / 0.00598999 (145350 shares, 732.47 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00471101 / 0.00598999 (2616031 shares, 12,324.15 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00372409 / 0.00598999 (11740066 shares, 43,721.16 BTC)
Jan 17 08:39:21 <Bugpowder>	Whales have returned
Jan 17 08:39:41 <Bugpowder>	http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Jan 17 08:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	WIN	1000.67350000
Jan 17 08:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	on less thn 16k
Jan 17 08:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	800.03870000 less than 8 wow
Jan 17 08:42:42 <Bugpowder>	In other news
Jan 17 08:42:43 <Bugpowder>	US jobless aid applications fall to 5-year low
Jan 17 08:42:59 <Bugpowder>	SP500 is gonna blow thru the 5 year high today
Jan 17 08:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty bad news innit.
Jan 17 08:43:55 <Bugpowder>	no, unemployment
Jan 17 08:44:02 <Bugpowder>	apps down to 5 year low
Jan 17 08:44:05 <Bugpowder>	335k
Jan 17 08:44:20 <mircea_popescu>	yes but that just means chronical unemployment is becoming unamangeable
Jan 17 08:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	these aren't people who found jobs.
Jan 17 08:44:37 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 17 08:44:38 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 17 08:44:48 <Bugpowder>	There is roll off issues
Jan 17 08:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	there is something else ?
Jan 17 08:45:19 <Bugpowder>	hiring
Jan 17 08:45:35 <mircea_popescu>	i have my doubts about that.
Jan 17 08:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	other than govt and high skilled tech jobs there's no hiring.
Jan 17 08:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	govt is a pointless expense and high skilled techs have no business playing the employee anwyay
Jan 17 08:46:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 201 @ 0.00150005 = 0.3015 BTC [-]
Jan 17 08:47:21 <Bugpowder>	The C140Ts are the ugly duckling of the MPOE
Jan 17 08:47:26 <Bugpowder>	y u no buy?
Jan 17 08:52:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0006647 = 4.7194 BTC [-]
Jan 17 08:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	kinda weird how that works
Jan 17 08:54:36 <mircea_popescu>	peak volume at 11/12
Jan 17 08:54:39 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 17 08:54:41 <Bugpowder>	like
Jan 17 08:54:52 <mircea_popescu>	you'd expect it to be centered atm
Jan 17 08:54:56 <Bugpowder>	arent the strike price options the highes leverage usually?
Jan 17 08:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	not 2 under
Jan 17 08:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Jan 17 08:55:07 <Bugpowder>	I dunno how the spread effects that
Jan 17 08:55:10 <Bugpowder>	affect
Jan 17 08:55:17 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if i have a pricing issue
Jan 17 08:55:40 <Bugpowder>	more likely people are non-rational
Jan 17 08:55:43 <Bugpowder>	buyers
Jan 17 08:55:46 <mircea_popescu>	then again... maybe person isn't into leverage
Jan 17 08:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	but some sort of particular hedging ?
Jan 17 08:57:09 <Bugpowder>	heyo!
Jan 17 08:57:11 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 17 08:57:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.95895, Best ask: 14.96000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00105, Last trade: 14.95895, 24 hour volume: 45073.86760974, 24 hour low: 14.45000, 24 hour high: 14.97000, 24 hour vwap: 14.72695
Jan 17 08:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	attention ladies making millions in btc : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135842974497.jpg
Jan 17 08:57:19 <mircea_popescu>	always wear panties when helicoptering.
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Jan 17 09:02:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00565991 = 5.6599 BTC [-]
Jan 17 09:02:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2274 @ 0.00565992 = 12.8707 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 09:11:31 <pigeons>	i don't know what's going on with this dice price
Jan 17 09:11:52 <pigeons>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Jan 17 09:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064635 / 0.00066278 / 0.00067375 (780682 shares, 517.43 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065893 / 0.00067375 (6816444 shares, 4,491.59 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.00063911 / 0.00067375 (39841651 shares, 25,463.37 BTC)
Jan 17 09:12:08 <Bugpowder>	supply and demand dude
Jan 17 09:12:13 <Bugpowder>	also whale betting has resumed
Jan 17 09:12:30 <pigeons>	ok i don't know is going on with the demand for this dice
Jan 17 09:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	welcome to the clu
Jan 17 09:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	b
Jan 17 09:12:53 <Bugpowder>	What if the world economy had 1 company that made money
Jan 17 09:12:56 <Bugpowder>	big money
Jan 17 09:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	o btw pigeons , 1st rota case.
Jan 17 09:15:19 <pigeons>	oh?
Jan 17 09:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
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Jan 17 09:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.0006647 = 9.3058 BTC [-]
Jan 17 09:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00067375 = 7.0407 BTC [+]
Jan 17 09:20:59 <pigeons>	OK then.
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Jan 17 09:27:48 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: did you mess up a deposit?
Jan 17 09:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	the op ddi.
Jan 17 09:33:01 <pigeons>	https://bitcoincaptcha.com/
Jan 17 09:34:18 <mircea_popescu>	is it "pay some satoshi here to display page" ?
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Jan 17 09:39:43 <pigeons>	yes
Jan 17 09:39:58 <pigeons>	dusplays a qr code for that
Jan 17 09:40:17 <kakobrekla>	btw
Jan 17 09:40:23 <kakobrekla>	anyone uses these codes oftenly?
Jan 17 09:40:25 <pigeons>	also released a WP plugin so download this content via bitcoincapcha
Jan 17 09:40:27 <pigeons>	no
Jan 17 09:40:32 <kakobrekla>	seems like a dead tech mostly
Jan 17 09:40:38 <pigeons>	one day someone will think of a use haha
Jan 17 09:40:43 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 17 09:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you mean qr codes ?
Jan 17 09:41:20 <kakobrekla>	xs
Jan 17 09:41:22 <kakobrekla>	ya
Jan 17 09:41:26 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 17 09:41:40 <mircea_popescu>	i know there's people who use them to pass mpex stuff from cold to hot machine
Jan 17 09:41:59 <kakobrekla>	we are excluding thoese two people from the study
Jan 17 09:42:10 <mircea_popescu>	like a dozen you hater you
Jan 17 09:42:15 <kakobrekla>	:D:D
Jan 17 09:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	and i also plan to trampstamp my hos with qr codes
Jan 17 09:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	so i can more effectually keep track
Jan 17 09:42:48 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 17 09:43:01 <kakobrekla>	they are valid until pussy smells
Jan 17 09:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	;/
Jan 17 09:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	ruined my appetite.
Jan 17 09:43:51 <kakobrekla>	aw sorry
Jan 17 09:44:00 <nyRednek>	pigeons, i use wordpress for my sites, so...
Jan 17 09:44:10 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: how's your EA going?
Jan 17 09:44:25 <kakobrekla>	pizzaman1337 i code and i code and i code
Jan 17 09:44:37 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: do you profit and profit and profit too?
Jan 17 09:44:42 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 17 09:44:48 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Jan 17 09:44:49 <kakobrekla>	well
Jan 17 09:44:57 <kakobrekla>	i have some interesting stuff that im testing now
Jan 17 09:45:47 <kakobrekla>	wasnt souch a good month so far
Jan 17 09:45:52 <kakobrekla>	a bunch of bad entry points
Jan 17 09:45:58 <kakobrekla>	i fix.
Jan 17 09:46:01 <kakobrekla>	;)
Jan 17 09:46:14 <pizzaman1337>	cool
Jan 17 09:46:39 <kakobrekla>	im trying to use critticall now
Jan 17 09:46:43 <pizzaman1337>	I'll be back to bit4x in a month or two probably, busy at the moment with other stuff
Jan 17 09:46:44 <pigeons>	here, plug bitcoin into this http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2013/01/ill_pay_you_to.php
Jan 17 09:46:56 <kakobrekla>	http://critticall.com/
Jan 17 09:47:31 <pizzaman1337>	interesting
Jan 17 09:47:49 <kakobrekla>	accually i know the person who made it :)
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Jan 17 09:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	Amazon Kindles today already track bookmark usage patterns which they relay back to Amazon on via its wireless Whispernet.
Jan 17 09:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	fuck that shit
Jan 17 09:49:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: erm? its just cloud sync
Jan 17 09:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	dude reading is private
Jan 17 09:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	i don't want some idiots counting my page turns.
Jan 17 09:50:03 <Diablo-D3>	then... dont use kindles?
Jan 17 09:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	i don't.
Jan 17 09:50:07 *	Diablo-D3 facepalms
Jan 17 09:50:08 <Diablo-D3>	dude
Jan 17 09:50:12 <Diablo-D3>	I can pick up a kindle
Jan 17 09:50:13 <Diablo-D3>	read
Jan 17 09:50:16 <Diablo-D3>	turn it off
Jan 17 09:50:26 <Diablo-D3>	then load up it on a different device
Jan 17 09:50:30 <Diablo-D3>	and continue reading where I left off
Jan 17 09:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00067374 = 2.0212 BTC [-]
Jan 17 09:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Jan 17 09:50:53 <Diablo-D3>	thats what syncing is.
Jan 17 09:51:01 <Diablo-D3>	its where multiple devices share the same state
Jan 17 09:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7679 @ 0.00067375 = 5.1737 BTC [+]
Jan 17 09:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	then we're talking of diff things.
Jan 17 09:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19089 @ 0.00067389 = 12.8639 BTC [+]
Jan 17 09:51:29 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: or you can get a book and read it when ever you want, where ever you want and nobody can enforce some shitty DRM on you
Jan 17 09:51:59 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: amazon has yet to enforce it on anyone
Jan 17 09:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00067439 = 6.0021 BTC [+]
Jan 17 09:52:04 <EskimoBob>	paper books are yours. kindle crap is rented and can be taken away from you any time
Jan 17 09:52:04 <Diablo-D3>	they cant seem to make a working DRM
Jan 17 09:52:13 <EskimoBob>	"has yet "
Jan 17 09:52:16 <EskimoBob>	exactly
Jan 17 09:52:22 <Diablo-D3>	I dont think they want to
Jan 17 09:52:24 <Diablo-D3>	its not hard
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Jan 17 09:54:49 <pigeons>	i think the funny thing is one of the first books amazon literally took back after publisher isses even after folks had paid for it was "1984"
Jan 17 09:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 17 09:55:52 <EskimoBob>	it is funny, that it was 1984
Jan 17 09:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	also bullshit. what the fuck "take back"
Jan 17 09:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	this crap needs to die. apple, amazon, the whole shebang.
Jan 17 09:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	electronic devices where the buyer isn't the root user should be illegal.
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Jan 17 09:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	making them illegal will pretty much be mpex's largest lobby effort in the future, im pretty sure.
Jan 17 09:57:10 <pigeons>	funnier that that is i've literally often encountered people who actually think apple is like a humanitarian organization
Jan 17 09:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	ya, sure, in the sense the dutch slave transporters were humanitarians
Jan 17 09:57:37 <pigeons>	oh shit mpex gonna get political, sell sell
Jan 17 09:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard of a company that size which managed to avoid getting political.
Jan 17 09:58:16 <pigeons>	bfl is bigger and they ain't political </troll>
Jan 17 09:58:37 <Diablo-D3>	[09:54:49] <pigeons> i think the funny thing is one of the first books amazon literally took back after publisher isses even after folks had paid for it was "1984"
Jan 17 09:58:42 <Diablo-D3>	they also said thats not happening again
Jan 17 09:58:58 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons give them a little lol
Jan 17 09:59:00 <Diablo-D3>	they amended the licensing agreement with all the publishers that if they have to do that: too fucking bad
Jan 17 09:59:19 <pigeons>	praise bezos
Jan 17 09:59:21 <Diablo-D3>	the reason 1984 was recalled was because the publisher apparently didnt have the rights to publish it as an ebook
Jan 17 09:59:30 <Diablo-D3>	and amazon ended up replacing it anyhow
Jan 17 09:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	no! rabble! RABBLE!
Jan 17 09:59:45 <pigeons>	still funny
Jan 17 09:59:56 <Diablo-D3>	the problem was people lost any bookmarks and notes on the title
Jan 17 10:00:06 <Diablo-D3>	due to how amazon stores data in the kindle software
Jan 17 10:00:36 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, at least Amazon fixed it and put it place that it cant happen again
Jan 17 10:00:45 <pigeons>	thanks amazon-pr
Jan 17 10:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00067615 = 5.9839 BTC [+]
Jan 17 10:01:55 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: is it still pr if they actually fix it?
Jan 17 10:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00067827 = 0.0678 BTC [+]
Jan 17 10:02:05 <pigeons>	yes
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Jan 17 10:03:06 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 quoth mpoe-pr : "pr is being right. packaging is secondary."
Jan 17 10:03:19 <pigeons>	or i'll kick you in the GoMaD_s
Jan 17 10:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	i guess she'd have been taken out and shot if she worked for anyone else
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Jan 17 10:05:18 <pigeons>	Korbman: keep buying those S.DICE
Jan 17 10:05:40 <Korbman>	I'd love to. Anybody want to give me money?
Jan 17 10:06:14 <pigeons>	apparantly
Jan 17 10:06:31 <pigeons>	pigeon pass through only 4%, pm
Jan 17 10:07:16 <kakobrekla>	ill pass you through PPT (no association with pirate) for 4.20% only
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Jan 17 10:09:05 <Korbman>	what's with all the .net, .split quits?
Jan 17 10:09:19 <Korbman>	I'm not familiar with that one
Jan 17 10:09:40 <pigeons>	it's the way the IRC protocol/network works
Jan 17 10:09:56 <mircea_popescu>	clients connect to servers. servers sometimes lose connections to each other
Jan 17 10:10:05 <pigeons>	that server and the users connected aren't reachable termporarily
Jan 17 10:10:06 <mircea_popescu>	clients on either side of this split see clients on the other side as netsplit.
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Jan 17 10:10:56 <pigeons>	so terryww you manually joined a different server? Korbman was asking about netsplits
Jan 17 10:11:18 <terryww>	pigeons, what?
Jan 17 10:11:30 <SomeoneWeird>	they probably just reconnected
Jan 17 10:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you can pick the server if you want to, just bypass the dns
Jan 17 10:11:36 <SomeoneWeird>	(the servers)
Jan 17 10:11:38 <Korbman>	Got it
Jan 17 10:11:58 <Korbman>	Googling helped as well of course
Jan 17 10:12:11 <pigeons>	yeah, i was demoing for Korbman how most will rejoin when the server sees the other servers, but terry was different
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Jan 17 10:12:40 <Korbman>	yup, topace is back
Jan 17 10:12:54 <Korbman>	I imagine the other two will pop back soon as well
Jan 17 10:13:11 *	topace is now known as Guest14444
Jan 17 10:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	what happened here was that their server died, and this was reported first to the irc network and then to the clients linked to it.
Jan 17 10:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	they just saw their connection die and reloaded, ending up back on
Jan 17 10:13:50 <Korbman>	indeed
Jan 17 10:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	someone that understands mining care to comment on
Jan 17 10:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	"Unless I misunderstand something, having 1gb blocks would pose significant problems for pretty much all miners, and would not be necessarily trivial to handle on asics designed with 1mb/block assumptions in mind."
Jan 17 10:14:41 <mircea_popescu>	?
Jan 17 10:17:06 <kakobrekla>	would need to check what comes out the GBH or whatever is called protocol
Jan 17 10:22:07 <Guest14444>	im back yes?
Jan 17 10:22:09 <Schadenfreude>	GBH? I only know GHB, it's an easy entry synthesis, kinda babby's first home-made drug
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Jan 17 10:22:16 <topace_>	grr
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Jan 17 10:23:17 <kakobrekla>	a sry
Jan 17 10:23:18 <topace_>	what was that a netsplit?
Jan 17 10:23:20 <kakobrekla>	its GBT
Jan 17 10:23:37 <kakobrekla>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getblocktemplate
Jan 17 10:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	getblocktemplate
Jan 17 10:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131035.0
Jan 17 10:24:12 <kakobrekla>	the problem is downloading this this
Jan 17 10:24:15 <kakobrekla>	nothing else really
Jan 17 10:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	that's a good comparison i thought. bw is an important limiting factor for miners.
Jan 17 10:24:20 <kakobrekla>	this this = this shit
Jan 17 10:24:27 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Jan 17 10:35:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Jan 17 10:36:43 <topace_>	with stratum bandwidth isnt an issue
Jan 17 10:36:58 <topace_>	i have 25GH running and it uses less than a 28.8 modem
Jan 17 10:37:20 <Diablo-D3>	heh, I should add stratum to diablominer
Jan 17 10:37:22 <Diablo-D3>	but meh =/
Jan 17 10:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	topace_ on 1mb capped blocks.
Jan 17 10:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	if they were 1gb that'd be more than a t1 ?
Jan 17 10:41:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 1.1893 BTC [-]
Jan 17 10:41:28 <Korbman>	T1 is slow as shit, so probably
Jan 17 10:41:36 <Diablo-D3>	T1 is 1.544mbps
Jan 17 10:41:48 <Diablo-D3>	my DSL is approximately two those.
Jan 17 10:42:11 <Korbman>	Indeed
Jan 17 10:42:20 <Diablo-D3>	you know, when I was a kid
Jan 17 10:42:22 <Diablo-D3>	I wanted a T1
Jan 17 10:42:33 <Diablo-D3>	because all we had was dialup, and we didnt even have 56k yet
Jan 17 10:43:19 <Diablo-D3>	I started with 2400, then had 14.4, then had 33.6, then 56k for awhile
Jan 17 10:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	topace_ now multiply that 1.5 mbps with 100 because 2.5th won't be too rare by the time blocks are 1gb
Jan 17 10:43:49 <Diablo-D3>	and then I had 768k dsl and now 3mbps
Jan 17 10:44:03 <Diablo-D3>	and soon as fairpoint gets done raping verizon's dead corpse, Ill get 15
Jan 17 10:44:31 <Korbman>	when I was a kid I was happy to have 28.8 ..then we moved up to 56 and damn it was "fast"
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Jan 17 10:44:41 <Diablo-D3>	man, 56k was lol
Jan 17 10:44:47 <Diablo-D3>	2 days to download an episode of anime
Jan 17 10:44:50 <Diablo-D3>	and it wasnt even good quality
Jan 17 10:44:51 <Korbman>	and then I went straight from that to 1mbps cable and shit my pants
Jan 17 10:45:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.1435 = 1.435 BTC [-]
Jan 17 10:45:18 <Korbman>	now I'm on 25mbps and I think it's too slow sometimes :P
Jan 17 10:45:29 *	mircea_popescu strokes his 128mbps
Jan 17 10:45:37 <Korbman>	Google Fiber please!
Jan 17 10:45:46 <Korbman>	haha
Jan 17 10:45:59 <Diablo-D3>	well, all I want is netflix in hd
Jan 17 10:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	you should all move to romania
Jan 17 10:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	best internet outside of azn.
Jan 17 10:47:39 <jcpham>	i wikipedia stalked your country i think
Jan 17 10:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	o?
Jan 17 10:47:54 <jcpham>	now i forget everything i learned
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Jan 17 10:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 17 10:50:31 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i stole some code from work to help with the endeavor
Jan 17 10:51:03 <thestringpuller>	down with the banks!
Jan 17 10:51:11 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Jan 17 10:51:12 <assbot>	Provide exchange and ticker.
Jan 17 10:51:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Jan 17 10:51:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064635 / 0.0006636 / 0.00067827 (852750 shares, 565.89 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065914 / 0.00067827 (6872362 shares, 4,529.89 BTC), 30D: 0.00058998 / 0.00063929 / 0.00067827 (39819121 shares, 25,456.12 BTC)
Jan 17 10:52:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C140T
Jan 17 10:52:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.10808014 / 0.12130616 / 0.14775821 (15 shares, 1.82 BTC), 30D: 0.01359389 / 0.02685208 / 0.19999999 (1051 shares, 28.22 BTC)
Jan 17 10:52:26 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 17 10:52:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.87203, Best ask: 14.98901, Bid-ask spread: 0.11698, Last trade: 14.87001, 24 hour volume: 47086.67851179, 24 hour low: 14.45900, 24 hour high: 14.99002, 24 hour vwap: 14.76172
Jan 17 10:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	shit did it touch 15 ?
Jan 17 10:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	wow 14.99
Jan 17 10:52:52 <thestringpuller>	about to
Jan 17 10:53:00 <thestringpuller>	:)
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Jan 17 10:53:47 <topace_>	no, the difficulty for stratum will just go up
Jan 17 10:53:54 <topace_>	right now each block i submit to the pool is worth 16 shares
Jan 17 10:54:14 <topace_>	with 2.5TH, each block i submit will be worth like, 64 shares
Jan 17 10:54:17 <topace_>	or whatever
Jan 17 10:54:29 <topace_>	it'll still try to submit x blocks every x minutes
Jan 17 10:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Jan 17 10:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, you actually have to somehow get the data you're hashing
Jan 17 10:55:35 <kakobrekla>	i got rid of all my gear except for single moded ztex runing 260mhash, ill just put it on solo and check in 10 years
Jan 17 10:55:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 90 @ 0.1435 = 12.915 BTC [-]
Jan 17 10:56:09 <kakobrekla>	like playin a lottery i guess
Jan 17 10:56:43 <topace_>	yea but the hash string is a short piece of text
Jan 17 10:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00587899 = 2.9395 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 11:00:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.509 = 2.545 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:01:47 <Korbman>	So the reality is, even at a TH/s bandwidth shouldn't be an issue?
Jan 17 11:02:39 <topace_>	right
Jan 17 11:02:42 <topace_>	thats what stratum solves
Jan 17 11:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla> i got rid of all my gear except for single moded ztex runing 260mhash, ill just put it on solo and check in 10 years << tbh, if i mined i'd solo too.
Jan 17 11:03:26 <Korbman>	that's what I presumed, but I wasn't sure the exact amount of data consumed per, say, 1GH/s
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Jan 17 11:04:47 <Korbman>	bandwidth* consumed
Jan 17 11:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	Korbman there are two factors here : hash speed and average block size.
Jan 17 11:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	the ideea is that both will go up by degrees of magnitude (like, one or two every year)
Jan 17 11:05:35 <Korbman>	Right
Jan 17 11:05:44 <Korbman>	makes sense
Jan 17 11:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	and the question is, are there asumptions baked in (or even burned into silicon)
Jan 17 11:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	that this may conflict with
Jan 17 11:06:36 <mircea_popescu>	i have no clue about mining, but i've managed projects before and i'm inclined to suspect that probably there are.
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Jan 17 11:08:45 <jcpham>	i'm going to keep mining as long as the orphanage is paying my power bill
Jan 17 11:09:24 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: the other, non bfl asic manufacturers have mentioned that their devices are agnostic to bitcoin mining, only for sha-256 hashing and i think even agnosting to the 2x256 thing and all that detail stuff being handled in host controller software
Jan 17 11:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.51 = 2.55 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:15:17 <pigeons>	but if big blocks like that, bfl has to rewrite their tablet software!
Jan 17 11:15:52 <pigeons>	anyway, see, if they were a scam, why even write that in the first place!
Jan 17 11:16:10 <pigeons>	who is this Shavers guy BFL hired for marketing?
Jan 17 11:16:57 <Korbman>	lol
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Jan 17 11:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.515 = 25.75 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:21:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.52 = 4.16 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:21:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5275 = 2.6375 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:21:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.52999999 = 5.3 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:21:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:21:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.55 = 16.5 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:21:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.58 = 4.64 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.58 = 5.22 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00067826 = 1.3565 BTC [-]
Jan 17 11:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00067827 = 3.0861 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:23:06 <Korbman>	damn...glad to see I'm still holding my shares of SDICE bought at .37 :P
Jan 17 11:23:33 <Korbman>	57% gain in 2 weeks
Jan 17 11:23:49 <topace_>	:)
Jan 17 11:25:01 <topace_>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 17 11:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.52973776 / 0.58000000 (143 shares, 75.75249990 BTC), 7D: 0.47500000 / 0.49032197 / 0.58000000 (719 shares, 352.54149990 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.45605941 / 0.62000000 (3678 shares, 1677.38649988 BTC)
Jan 17 11:26:36 <topace_>	we'll see what happens on next dividend
Jan 17 11:26:52 <topace_>	i think a lot of people foolishly think that the crazy up luck month of december will continue
Jan 17 11:27:21 <Korbman>	yup
Jan 17 11:29:21 <jurov>	got announcements from amir/genjix:
Jan 17 11:29:23 <jurov>	I know how to format Sunday. Some of you will also know how to format
Jan 17 11:29:24 <jurov>	Sunday night events. I think we should definitely do it that way.
Jan 17 11:29:26 <jurov>	It's cold outside so we'll do it inside instead.
Jan 17 11:29:55 <jurov>	like,wtf?
Jan 17 11:31:47 <Korbman>	;;ticker
Jan 17 11:31:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.90004, Best ask: 15.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09996, Last trade: 14.90004, 24 hour volume: 48207.48847395, 24 hour low: 14.45900, 24 hour high: 15.00000, 24 hour vwap: 14.77713
Jan 17 11:31:56 <Korbman>	yay $15
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Jan 17 11:41:38 <jcpham>	We have good news we have had a new shipment come in yesterday and were able to ship it to you.
Jan 17 11:41:39 <jcpham>	YAY
Jan 17 11:44:48 <jcpham>	fifteen
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Jan 17 11:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	it hit ?
Jan 17 11:49:31 <jcpham>	over
Jan 17 11:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons aha
Jan 17 11:49:53 <jcpham>	15.15 the kids are bidding
Jan 17 11:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	<topace_> i think a lot of people foolishly think that the crazy up luck month of december will continue << actually december wasn't much off ev was it ?
Jan 17 11:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	jurov what's it mean to format sunday ?
Jan 17 11:51:02 <jcpham>	<amphipod> +Jan17 16:49:36 bitstamp         10.0000 @    15.01       USD
Jan 17 11:51:02 <jcpham>	<amphipod> +Jan17 18:49:30 cbx               5.5012 @    14.31       USD
Jan 17 11:51:03 <jcpham>	<amphipod> +Jan17 16:49:53 mtgox             0.2500 @    15.15029    USD
Jan 17 11:51:03 <jcpham>	<amphipod> +Jan17 16:49:58 bitme             5.2000 @    15.29       USD
Jan 17 11:51:03 <jcpham>	<amphipod> +Jan17 18:49:53 cbx               0.1366 @    14.31       USD
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Jan 17 11:51:05 <jcpham>	<amphipod> +Jan17 16:50:22 btcn              1.0000 @    91.98       CNY
Jan 17 11:51:07 <jcpham>	<amphipod> +Jan17 16:50:22 mtgox     x23    24.6047 @    15.16041205 USD
Jan 17 11:51:09 <jcpham>	sorry for spam
Jan 17 11:51:12 <jurov>	mircea, dunno, perhaps some anarchist thing
Jan 17 11:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 17 11:51:34 <jcpham>	it's every exchange too not just gox
Jan 17 11:51:44 <jcpham>	that's fun to see
Jan 17 11:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	well in other news i made myself chocolate
Jan 17 11:52:26 <jcpham>	haha
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Jan 17 11:58:54 <smickles>	damn mircea_popescu, who do you think will be chosen as judges
Jan 17 11:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 110 @ 0.1385 = 15.235 BTC [-]
Jan 17 11:59:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 510 @ 0.1409839 = 71.9018 BTC [+]
Jan 17 11:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	smickles well i have no idea, seeing how neither party gave any input. random pick
Jan 17 11:59:58 <jcpham>	judges for what
Jan 17 12:00:24 <jcpham>	rota has to work?
Jan 17 12:00:30 <smickles>	yup
Jan 17 12:00:37 <jcpham>	booo....free money
Jan 17 12:00:37 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i hilited you like yest lol
Jan 17 12:01:08 <jcpham>	i was at home yesterday
Jan 17 12:01:15 <jcpham>	that client is the suck
Jan 17 12:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
Jan 17 12:01:43 <jcpham>	so which entity? k
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Jan 17 12:02:56 <smickles>	so who is EF0641A7?
Jan 17 12:03:24 <jcpham>	yes where can ireadup on the particulars
Jan 17 12:03:32 <smickles>	(the signer of the claim)
Jan 17 12:03:35 <jcpham>	also it looks like this dispute is against mpex et al.
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Jan 17 12:05:16 <smickles>	maybe i shouldn't start discussing details in case i'm chosen as a judge
Jan 17 12:05:43 <jcpham>	i think you are correct. no cross- talk
Jan 17 12:05:54 <jcpham>	but i would like any and al details to the particulars
Jan 17 12:05:58 <jcpham>	"for
Jan 17 12:05:58 <jcpham>	the sum of 130.04256216 mistakenly sent 130.00 BTC instead."
Jan 17 12:06:04 <jcpham>	is all i have deciphered thus far
Jan 17 12:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	well, dude sent round value
Jan 17 12:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	you can see it in the blockchain
Jan 17 12:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	now wants to claim it.
Jan 17 12:08:19 <jcpham>	so it's a ssimple as someone not follwing the rules
Jan 17 12:08:30 <jcpham>	i assume mpex to be automated
Jan 17 12:08:48 <mircea_popescu>	why do you assume that ?!
Jan 17 12:08:56 <jurov>	did he at least send the additional 0.04256216?
Jan 17 12:09:06 <jcpham>	if it was mine it would be automated
Jan 17 12:09:30 <jurov>	i would, and then i'd argue it was nowhere sait it must be sent at once :P
Jan 17 12:09:32 <smickles>	jcpham: deposits arn't automated
Jan 17 12:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	jurov that's a different transaction
Jan 17 12:09:38 <smickles>	*fully
Jan 17 12:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	happens to also be 130 btc
Jan 17 12:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	and yes it's said it has to be sent at once lol
Jan 17 12:10:19 <smickles>	well, I can't wait to see the argments presented
Jan 17 12:10:28 <jcpham>	iirc the mpex faq had some such statement about incorrect amounts
Jan 17 12:10:42 <smickles>	and I wonder if i'll be chosen as a judge or not
Jan 17 12:10:43 <jurov>	lol, there's a nice public note on blockchain.info.. did not knew this is possible
Jan 17 12:10:45 <jcpham>	very interesting
Jan 17 12:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	jurov whassat ?
Jan 17 12:11:09 <jurov>	go to http://blockchain.info/address/1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
Jan 17 12:11:11 <jurov>	scroll down
Jan 17 12:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 25 @ 0.00594222 = 0.1486 BTC [+]
Jan 17 12:11:27 <jurov>	or grep "Public Note:"
Jan 17 12:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck !?
Jan 17 12:12:16 <jcpham>	mmmmhmmm
Jan 17 12:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	is that the result of him signing the message ?
Jan 17 12:12:38 <smickles>	i think it's stuff you can put in the tx
Jan 17 12:12:44 <jcpham>	i am actually unsure
Jan 17 12:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	me too.
Jan 17 12:13:02 <jurov>	no you can't put stuff like this into tx
Jan 17 12:13:07 <smickles>	use bitcoind help sendtoaddress
Jan 17 12:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	this will be an interesting case i think
Jan 17 12:13:11 <jurov>	he mush have associated it some other way
Jan 17 12:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	jurov iirc you can put it via blockchain
Jan 17 12:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	they add a little tag  and keep a db
Jan 17 12:13:23 <jcpham>	i'm thinking blockchain wallet
Jan 17 12:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	tho i wouldn't sear to this
Jan 17 12:13:41 <smickles>	1there are coinbase fields for [comment] and [comment-to]
Jan 17 12:14:00 <jcpham>	if it was in the tranasaction then the transaction isn't amistake
Jan 17 12:14:09 <jcpham>	so that idea negates the claim
Jan 17 12:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's a point...
Jan 17 12:15:51 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg1158100#msg1158100
Jan 17 12:15:57 <smickles>	re blockchain notes
Jan 17 12:17:39 <jcpham>	If bitcointalk wasn't such a toxic waste dump I'd suggest someone curate this information ina thread
Jan 17 12:17:49 <jcpham>	i'm fine i have my own notes
Jan 17 12:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham do it on my forum
Jan 17 12:18:05 <jcpham>	and where is that
Jan 17 12:18:21 <smickles>	and they use OP_DROP to put the message in
Jan 17 12:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/btcf/
Jan 17 12:18:48 <smickles>	oh lol, i forgot about that
Jan 17 12:18:53 <mircea_popescu>	smickles so basically, it's not a signature or anything ?
Jan 17 12:18:57 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i forgot about it too lol.
Jan 17 12:19:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: if it's in the tx, it is signed by the sender
Jan 17 12:19:43 <smickles>	it's one of the 'scripts'
Jan 17 12:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	problem is, the addies that signed are not the addies that sent the 130
Jan 17 12:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	so this isn't actually proof is it
Jan 17 12:20:39 <smickles>	what are you saying it's not proof of? it looks like a message they put up when decided to sue mpex
Jan 17 12:21:25 <jcpham>	i assume the message was added after the fact and blochain.info allows something special
Jan 17 12:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's not proof that the same person actually sent the 130
Jan 17 12:21:39 <jcpham>	it appears that way from the information i am reading
Jan 17 12:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	understand, anyone watching mpex addy can claim any rounded sums
Jan 17 12:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	as far as i know.
Jan 17 12:22:00 <jcpham>	so now there is the issue of ownership
Jan 17 12:22:15 <jcpham>	how does one prove ownership
Jan 17 12:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	either sign with the addy or show the deposit slip issued by mpex.
Jan 17 12:22:43 <jcpham>	we know who or where the current owner is, but can the previous owner prove ownership
Jan 17 12:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess
Jan 17 12:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	or anything else the judges come up with
Jan 17 12:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	that's why they're there
Jan 17 12:24:51 <smickles>	i don't think the message could be added after the fact, it's in the tx afaik, however, the tx with the message was made on this past 17th, and isn't the 130 btc in question
Jan 17 12:25:01 <smickles>	so what are you guys on about?
Jan 17 12:25:10 <JWU_42>	15.30
Jan 17 12:25:12 <JWU_42>	on Gox
Jan 17 12:25:15 <JWU_42>	=)
Jan 17 12:25:47 <smickles>	no wai
Jan 17 12:25:49 <topace_>	heh this is gonna crash hard
Jan 17 12:25:54 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 17 12:25:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.29900, Best ask: 15.29980, Bid-ask spread: 0.00080, Last trade: 15.29900, 24 hour volume: 51318.02221687, 24 hour low: 14.45900, 24 hour high: 15.29990, 24 hour vwap: 14.82395
Jan 17 12:26:03 <jcpham>	it's derping crazy
Jan 17 12:26:23 <jcpham>	the price, that ios
Jan 17 12:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 548 @ 0.00594222 = 3.2563 BTC [+]
Jan 17 12:27:01 <smickles>	people freaking out about the state of the world and going to bitcoin would be interesting
Jan 17 12:27:31 <smickles>	jcpham: did you see what i declared as my company's themesong?
Jan 17 12:27:42 <jcpham>	i never listened to it
Jan 17 12:28:09 <smickles>	ah well, i suppose it's not really important
Jan 17 12:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Jan 17 12:28:19 <jcpham>	i saw the link but got busy
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Jan 17 12:31:51 <JWU_42>	15.32
Jan 17 12:31:52 <jurov>	smickles. the message was certainly NOT in the tx. it looks like was just slapped on some other unrelated tx using blockchain.info
Jan 17 12:31:54 <JWU_42>	heh
Jan 17 12:33:00 <jcpham>	the plaintiff will need to prove ownership. i don't see where that has been performed yet.
Jan 17 12:33:05 <jcpham>	maybe i've missed something
Jan 17 12:33:07 <smickles>	jurov: that's what i'm saying, the message is on an unrelated tx
Jan 17 12:33:25 <jcpham>	from the same address for a token amount
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Jan 17 12:33:32 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/btcf/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17
Jan 17 12:33:40 <smickles>	canada's next
Jan 17 12:33:44 <jcpham>	however this doesn't prove an identity or ownership
Jan 17 12:33:46 <jurov>	OK, being "in" and "on" is quite a difference :)
Jan 17 12:35:16 <Tritonio>	hae you people seen the amazingrando scam accusation? How big was his mining op?
Jan 17 12:35:50 <smickles>	jurov: well, i wasn't making the distinction there, maybe out of my own ignorrance, but i saw a statement by piuk that those blockchian messags are in txns via OP_DROP
Jan 17 12:35:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.8001 BTC [-]
Jan 17 12:35:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-]
Jan 17 12:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
Jan 17 12:38:28 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons ^^ you're on.
Jan 17 12:39:20 <smickles>	oh my, progress
Jan 17 12:41:42 <jurov>	on polimedia.us/btcf is registration disabled or i'm blind?
Jan 17 12:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lemme check
Jan 17 12:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	umm i guess it is
Jan 17 12:47:18 <jurov>	in just got idea... saw some people advertising their forum, can't remember
Jan 17 12:47:19 <mircea_popescu>	Tritonio it was relatively large
Jan 17 12:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	i did not see the accusation tho. link ?
Jan 17 12:47:34 <jurov>	i'd like to have some support topic for coinbr
Jan 17 12:47:54 <jurov>	where i could be admin ... i don't want btctalk
Jan 17 12:48:13 <mircea_popescu>	jurov forum was more a joke thing. it was never open registration, so it wouldn't make too good a support venue
Jan 17 12:48:20 <jurov>	and don't want to install/maintain more stuff on the vps just for that
Jan 17 12:48:41 <jurov>	mircea yes, but there were some other ppl that looked serious :)
Jan 17 12:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	o ty :D
Jan 17 12:50:43 <jurov>	looks it was this one: http://www.bitcoinforum.com
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Jan 17 12:55:43 <smickles>	jurov: yeah, you could only get membership on that forum if you had significant -otc trust with mircea, or even better L2 trust to mircea
Jan 17 12:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 82 @ 0.00594222 = 0.4873 BTC [+]
Jan 17 12:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 918 @ 0.00595019 = 5.4623 BTC [+]
Jan 17 12:55:48 <smickles>	or something like that
Jan 17 12:56:07 <jurov>	;;gettrust mircea_popescu
Jan 17 12:56:07 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user jurov to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 4, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=jurov&dest=mircea_popescu
Jan 17 12:56:27 <jurov>	or it was meant the otther way around?
Jan 17 12:56:34 <jurov>	;;gettrust mircea_popescu jurov
Jan 17 12:56:35 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user jurov: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 6 via 5 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=jurov
Jan 17 12:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	im sure he'd have made it, but!
Jan 17 12:56:53 <Tatsuya>	who runs bitbet?
Jan 17 12:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	i kinda forgot all about it lol. soon after glbse imploded and etc
Jan 17 12:57:18 <Tritonio>	mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136803.0
Jan 17 12:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	Tatsuya me and kakobrekla
Jan 17 12:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	o, yeah... pretty dubious stuff.
Jan 17 12:58:48 <Tatsuya>	nice - any plans/chance you guys might post / give access to bet databases for running statistical analyses?
Jan 17 12:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	Tatsuya post, as in free/public ? no.
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Jan 17 13:00:19 <Tatsuya>	That's what I meant, but yeah ok
Jan 17 13:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00067576 = 16.8264 BTC [-]
Jan 17 13:00:54 <smickles>	couldn't you construct that yourself?
Jan 17 13:00:55 <Tatsuya>	One thing that would be nice for the site, though, would be to see not just the BTC ratio, but also the user ratio
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Jan 17 13:01:52 <smickles>	they're more like waves that have particle-like properties tho
Jan 17 13:02:30 <smickles>	er, i mean to say, you can't really say that a givin bet was done by a specific user
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Jan 17 13:03:06 <thestringpuller>	smickles you around for a bit?
Jan 17 13:03:55 <smickles>	thestringpuller: I can be
Jan 17 13:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11546 @ 0.00067576 = 7.8023 BTC [-]
Jan 17 13:09:48 <jcpham>	http://blockchain.info/address/1B5h9sf6xNLYGa3NBk48hwYbxyNZ22PRJk
Jan 17 13:09:52 <jcpham>	^ check it out
Jan 17 13:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	Tatsuya what's the user ratio ?
Jan 17 13:13:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 608 @ 0.00067576 = 0.4109 BTC [-]
Jan 17 13:13:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8092 @ 0.00067575 = 5.4682 BTC [-]
Jan 17 13:16:15 <Korbman>	why the hell is blockchain.info showing up in spanish to me now...
Jan 17 13:16:21 <Korbman>	lol it was english this morning
Jan 17 13:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 482 @ 0.00595019 = 2.868 BTC [+]
Jan 17 13:17:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00598578 = 5.6865 BTC [+]
Jan 17 13:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 318 @ 0.00598999 = 1.9048 BTC [+]
Jan 17 13:17:39 <Tatsuya>	mircea_popescu, yup - that! better to gauge the riskyness of the best looking @ sample size - I know you list the individual bets, but tallying is a pain
Jan 17 13:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	Tatsuya i'm sorry ?!
Jan 17 13:18:28 <Tatsuya>	oh sorry
Jan 17 13:19:10 <Tatsuya>	on top of the BTC no/yes in red/blue, also show # of users no/yes in red/blue
Jan 17 13:19:28 <Tatsuya>	for each of the bet posts
Jan 17 13:19:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7801 BTC [-]
Jan 17 13:19:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [-]
Jan 17 13:20:06 <kakobrekla>	i think that would be too crowded, perhaps we could place that info someplace else
Jan 17 13:20:26 <Tatsuya>	sure - just some way that's easier than counting the bets by hand
Jan 17 13:20:33 <kakobrekla>	k
Jan 17 13:20:56 <kakobrekla>	will be added soonish
Jan 17 13:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	oh yeah
Jan 17 13:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	it's aproblem cramming all that info in there
Jan 17 13:22:20 <smickles>	heh, add an "all the stats on this bet that you could ever want" link
Jan 17 13:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 17 13:23:11 <Tatsuya>	It's just for when - let's say you have a bet that's 100 BTC vs 100 BTC. It could be that just one person but in a 100 BTC 'no' bet and 1000 people put in 0.1 BTC bets. which would be an entirely different betting situation than 100 people betting 0.5 BTC 'yes' and 100 people betting 0.5 BTC 'no'
Jan 17 13:23:18 <Tatsuya>	*put
Jan 17 13:23:35 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: don't for get the unicorn to leprechaun ratio
Jan 17 13:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. course you can sorta gauge that from the betlist
Jan 17 13:24:15 <smickles>	i say you can't, unique btc addys are easy to come by
Jan 17 13:24:29 <Tatsuya>	oh good point
Jan 17 13:24:34 <smickles>	low enough effort that you can't discount the possibility of a troll
Jan 17 13:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 125 @ 0.00598999 = 0.7487 BTC [+]
Jan 17 13:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5785 @ 0.00067575 = 3.9092 BTC [-]
Jan 17 13:25:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6615 @ 0.00067519 = 4.4664 BTC [-]
Jan 17 13:25:26 <Tatsuya>	there could still be statistical ways of detecting the probability of a troll vs not a troll
Jan 17 13:25:53 <Tatsuya>	I just want to get Bayesian all up on this data
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Jan 17 13:34:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8694 @ 0.00067827 = 5.8969 BTC [+]
Jan 17 13:34:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3106 @ 0.00067874 = 2.1082 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 13:37:30 <dub>	so I never synced past "blocks" : 191463,
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Jan 17 13:38:03 <dub>	been on that block for days
Jan 17 13:38:29 <mircea_popescu>	are you enjoying it ?
Jan 17 13:39:36 <dub>	wonder how many people just give up on bitcoin because of this
Jan 17 13:39:57 <dub>	I'd guess maybe >50%
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Jan 17 13:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	dub i imagine 80%
Jan 17 13:40:16 <Bugpowder>	OK that is about enough bitcoin price raise for this month thank you very much
Jan 17 13:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol was waiting for you to log
Jan 17 13:41:17 <Bugpowder>	well the C140Ts finally sold
Jan 17 13:41:21 <Bugpowder>	big surprise
Jan 17 13:41:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
Jan 17 13:41:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.41 = 0.82 BTC [-]
Jan 17 13:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	Bitcoin Will Hit $15 Before February 1st
Jan 17 13:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	Bitcoin Will Hit $15 Before March 1st
Jan 17 13:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Jan 17 13:43:55 <Bugpowder>	the ask sheet is just EMPTY
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Jan 17 13:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;asks 20
Jan 17 13:45:23 <gribble>	There are currently 26018.869 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 462205.640168 USD in total.
Jan 17 13:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;asks 15
Jan 17 13:45:33 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 19
Jan 17 13:45:34 <mircea_popescu>	umm nm
Jan 17 13:45:38 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 15.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 17 13:45:42 <gribble>	There are currently 19450.404 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 331657.94613 USD in total.
Jan 17 13:46:02 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 16.9
Jan 17 13:46:07 <gribble>	There are currently 8987.8874 bitcoins offered at or under 16.9 USD, worth 145203.270584 USD in total.
Jan 17 13:46:52 <jurov>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 17 13:46:54 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064635 / 0.00066602 / 0.00067874 (838877 shares, 558.72 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065943 / 0.00067874 (6900079 shares, 4,550.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00059238 / 0.00063945 / 0.00067874 (39816563 shares, 25,460.78 BTC)
Jan 17 13:46:58 <jurov>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 17 13:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0048577 / 0.00529282 / 0.00598999 (83611 shares, 442.54 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00471824 / 0.00598999 (2501791 shares, 11,804.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00372541 / 0.00598999 (11744538 shares, 43,753.22 BTC)
Jan 17 13:48:00 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 17 13:48:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.47100, Best ask: 15.58111, Bid-ask spread: 0.11011, Last trade: 15.47101, 24 hour volume: 55890.61316392, 24 hour low: 14.46811, 24 hour high: 15.58900, 24 hour vwap: 14.91688
Jan 17 13:48:18 <jurov>	upward to 16!
Jan 17 13:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	quite remarkable that stocks don't selloff
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Jan 17 13:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	all the theoreticians of btc as commodity will have a serious problem explaining this so far pretty consistent behaviour
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Jan 17 13:50:16 <dub>	;;bids 12
Jan 17 13:50:18 <gribble>	There are currently 73086.439 bitcoins demanded at or over 12.0 USD, worth 1001985.33423 USD in total.
Jan 17 13:50:35 <dub>	^saturday
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Jan 17 13:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1000 @ 0.07214377 = 72.1438 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 13:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 75 @ 0.00598999 = 0.4492 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 14:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	btw, Bugpowder, can you ping rassah ?
Jan 17 14:02:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00598999 = 1.198 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:03:16 <Bugpowder>	i'll send him an FB msge
Jan 17 14:03:38 <mircea_popescu>	danke
Jan 17 14:04:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CREATE] 10 @ 0.04 = 0.4 BTC
Jan 17 14:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 17 14:05:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.61901, Best ask: 15.68000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06099, Last trade: 15.61901, 24 hour volume: 56166.81154533, 24 hour low: 14.47027, 24 hour high: 15.68000, 24 hour vwap: 14.93915
Jan 17 14:05:55 <mircea_popescu>	look at that go.
Jan 17 14:07:10 <pigeons>	shit
Jan 17 14:07:37 <Bugpowder>	how high does the parabola go
Jan 17 14:07:37 <Bugpowder>	Yeah  I am short a fair number of calls
Jan 17 14:07:42 <Bugpowder>	uh oh
Jan 17 14:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	dude looking at the day graph
Jan 17 14:08:05 <Bugpowder>	TO 30!
Jan 17 14:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	that can literally go to 50
Jan 17 14:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	slow buildup on low volume, no spike no anything
Jan 17 14:08:21 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 17 14:08:26 <Bugpowder>	by next Friday anything is possible
Jan 17 14:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	there's literally no ceiling visible.
Jan 17 14:08:40 <pigeons>	$100 by christmas
Jan 17 14:08:45 <pigeons>	;)
Jan 17 14:09:08 <pigeons>	this rvm stuff reminds me of the same retardedness as windows SxS
Jan 17 14:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	i guess im the first bitcoin person to be worth > 10mn.
Jan 17 14:09:12 <Bugpowder>	It could be be a painful month for MPORB  or a great one.
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Jan 17 14:15:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CREATE] 124 @ 0.04 = 4.96 BTC
Jan 17 14:19:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00598999 = 1.198 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1524 @ 0.00593682 = 9.0477 BTC [-]
Jan 17 14:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1126 @ 0.00581826 = 6.5514 BTC [-]
Jan 17 14:21:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 17 14:21:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.36587, Best ask: 15.36588, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 15.36588, 24 hour volume: 58349.69576818, 24 hour low: 14.50622, 24 hour high: 15.68000, 24 hour vwap: 14.96194
Jan 17 14:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	aha!
Jan 17 14:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	well,. this is too much excitement for me. anyone care rto recomend a movie ?
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Jan 17 14:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00576441 = 0.5764 BTC [-]
Jan 17 14:26:08 <EskimoBob>	mp, go fuck yourself
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Jan 17 14:27:49 <dub>	CREATE?
Jan 17 14:28:00 <dub>	is that you EskimoBob?
Jan 17 14:28:01 <EskimoBob>	probably your favourite movie anyhow :)
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Jan 17 14:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6658 @ 0.00067874 = 4.5191 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:28:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00067882 = 2.4438 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:28:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00067928 = 7.6419 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:28:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17892 @ 0.00067983 = 12.1635 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:28:24 <dub>	sounds retarded enough to be EskimoBob
Jan 17 14:28:49 <pigeons>	CREATE is matthew from "red star mining", quite an interesting fellow, with some idea to sell 3d printing services of some kind and not really make any money from it
Jan 17 14:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00598999 = 0.599 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:30:07 <dub>	yes, 'interesting' is one word
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Jan 17 14:30:22 <pigeons>	nicer than schizophrenic
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Jan 17 14:30:37 <dub>	or dumber than a box of hammers
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Jan 17 14:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	can i print a tank yet?
Jan 17 14:31:22 <dub>	would you download a tank?
Jan 17 14:31:28 <pigeons>	yes a toy tank
Jan 17 14:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	if i could download a tank i wouldn't download boobs...
Jan 17 14:31:49 <dub>	yeah, take boobs by force with your new tank
Jan 17 14:31:51 <pigeons>	no you cannot download a nitrous tank mp
Jan 17 14:31:57 *	mircea_popescu snorts like an idiot at the badonkadonk reference
Jan 17 14:32:09 <dub>	'Romainian village raped at tank-point'
Jan 17 14:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Jan 17 14:36:47 <EskimoBob>	wtf! M.N. Wright is sending out sad pm's?
Jan 17 14:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.58 = 2.9 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:41:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.58 = 9.86 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5875 = 1.175 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:47:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4441 @ 0.00067983 = 3.0191 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:47:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16406 @ 0.00067998 = 11.1558 BTC [+]
Jan 17 14:48:05 <markedathome>	hiya peeps.
Jan 17 14:48:21 <markedathome>	i thought create was garr255 (cognitive)?
Jan 17 14:52:39 <Bugpowder>	yea
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Jan 17 14:53:24 <EskimoBob>	markedathome: probably not
Jan 17 14:56:41 <markedathome>	it is -> started by Garr255 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136953.0
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Jan 17 15:00:39 <jcpham>	it is snowing here
Jan 17 15:05:02 *	Ukto sends jcpham more
Jan 17 15:05:05 <Ukto>	you can haz it
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Jan 17 15:05:53 <jcpham>	we never get snow
Jan 17 15:06:05 <Ukto>	yeah we had light snow over night liek 2 nights in a row
Jan 17 15:06:05 <jcpham>	i opened my window to watch it
Jan 17 15:06:08 <Ukto>	just enough to whiten things
Jan 17 15:06:10 <kakobrekla>	unbelivalbe what kind of garbage asset people come up with
Jan 17 15:06:20 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: which one now?
Jan 17 15:06:31 <kakobrekla>	marked link
Jan 17 15:06:41 <Ukto>	oh
Jan 17 15:06:42 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 17 15:07:01 <Ukto>	its more of a crowdfunding
Jan 17 15:07:02 <Ukto>	than an asset
Jan 17 15:07:12 <Ukto>	would work better in my new stuff thats comming up
Jan 17 15:11:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 50 @ 0.5 = 25 BTC
Jan 17 15:16:33 <Bugpowder>	here come the asks
Jan 17 15:18:14 <jurov>	it's done: http://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/
Jan 17 15:18:28 <jurov>	they were helpful and quick, i have own board with admin rights
Jan 17 15:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00067519 = 1.2829 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 15:23:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.33 = 4.95 BTC [+]
Jan 17 15:24:44 <thestringpuller>	Ukto
Jan 17 15:24:52 <thestringpuller>	you got some splainin to do
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Jan 17 15:30:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CREATE] 1 @ 0.04 BTC
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Jan 17 15:45:55 <EskimoBob>	jurov: any idea why it is called "The Unofficial Bitcoin Forum" ? It looks way better and probably has less crap in it than bitcointalk :)
Jan 17 15:46:28 <EskimoBob>	actually, who is the one to say what is official and what is not
Jan 17 15:46:35 <jurov>	no idea why
Jan 17 15:47:44 <jurov>	14 guests viewing this board? lol
Jan 17 15:48:38 <EskimoBob>	at least mpo-bs has no account there :)
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Jan 17 15:55:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00067519 = 17.2173 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 16:08:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.33 = 4.95 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 16:10:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18772 @ 0.00067519 = 12.6747 BTC [-]
Jan 17 16:10:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 12 @ 0.421 = 5.052 BTC [-]
Jan 17 16:12:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.421 = 0.842 BTC [-]
Jan 17 16:15:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00598999 = 0.2995 BTC [+]
Jan 17 16:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00067519 = 7.3596 BTC [-]
Jan 17 16:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11113 @ 0.00067519 = 7.5034 BTC [-]
Jan 17 16:21:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4737 @ 0.00066769 = 3.1628 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 16:28:41 <mircea_popescu>	jurov cool
Jan 17 16:29:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00598998 = 0.2995 BTC [-]
Jan 17 16:29:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00598998 = 0.2995 BTC [-]
Jan 17 16:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 17 16:30:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.50001, Best ask: 15.54987, Bid-ask spread: 0.04986, Last trade: 15.50001, 24 hour volume: 67571.97026330, 24 hour low: 14.60030, 24 hour high: 15.68000, 24 hour vwap: 15.06797
Jan 17 16:37:12 <dub>	i don't grok CREATE at all
Jan 17 16:37:32 <dub>	seems to just be a free printer for Garr
Jan 17 16:37:40 <mircea_popescu>	dub let's face it, pretending like we're doing finance is cool.
Jan 17 16:38:37 <dub>	well it is finance, like getting 'finance' from an appliance store, right? only not having to pay it back
Jan 17 16:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	yes and also all the chicks dig rich finance types.
Jan 17 16:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	course if he 3d printed lottery tickets
Jan 17 16:39:36 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be a true consolidated GLBSE legacy.
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Jan 17 16:40:47 <dub>	he could print a free DIY lobotomy tool for anyone that invests
Jan 17 16:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	they wouldn't know how to use it
Jan 17 16:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	and "invests"... well... kids wanna have fun on the interwebs. why not ?
Jan 17 16:42:30 <Namworld>	He should have made a bond like BTC-BOND
Jan 17 16:42:45 <dub>	its shaped like a pencil, you hold it up to an eye and slam your face into the desk
Jan 17 16:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld were you invested with amazingrando btw ?
Jan 17 16:43:01 <Namworld>	Yeah
Jan 17 16:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	are you screwed ?
Jan 17 16:43:14 <Namworld>	He owes me 770 BTC
Jan 17 16:43:28 <gigavps>	:O
Jan 17 16:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	meh.
Jan 17 16:43:50 <Namworld>	2369 BTC total
Jan 17 16:44:03 <Namworld>	for BTC-MINING
Jan 17 16:44:13 <gigavps>	still no response?
Jan 17 16:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	2.4k of which 800 due ? or 2.4k capital of which 800 writeoff ?
Jan 17 16:44:36 <Namworld>	2.4k out of which I own 770 personally.
Jan 17 16:44:52 <gigavps>	ouch
Jan 17 16:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	so he owes 2369  btc to btc-mining of which 770 are your share ?
Jan 17 16:45:04 <Namworld>	He's more than late. He hasn't been answering my PMs ever since he said he stopped GPU mining and said he'd be back when BFL would ship because he spent everything on that.
Jan 17 16:45:09 <Namworld>	mircea: correct
Jan 17 16:45:24 <mircea_popescu>	nasty.
Jan 17 16:45:26 <gigavps>	Namworld he's still mining
Jan 17 16:45:32 <Namworld>	...
Jan 17 16:45:38 <Namworld>	yeah, he's at your facility
Jan 17 16:45:42 <Namworld>	right?
Jan 17 16:45:45 <Namworld>	shared place?
Jan 17 16:45:49 <gigavps>	http://bitminter.com/livestats/big
Jan 17 16:45:59 <gigavps>	i'm have 14 machines in WA
Jan 17 16:46:03 <pigeons>	rota!
Jan 17 16:46:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly.
Jan 17 16:46:34 <Namworld>	Yeah. If you have his contact info, I wouldn't mind.
Jan 17 16:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	so the guy with the 130 btc sent it off blockchain wallet ;/
Jan 17 16:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	if there a way for a user to prove he owns a blockchain address ?
Jan 17 16:46:59 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu in the original terms/faq/whatever for mpex, didn't you have some wordage saying something about incorrect amount being sent to you would be kept
Jan 17 16:47:05 <jcpham>	or has that changed now with rota
Jan 17 16:47:26 <Namworld>	mircea: you can sign message with your blockchain.info addresses.
Jan 17 16:47:28 <jcpham>	i seem to recall wordage somehwere along those lines
Jan 17 16:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham it was always the case, but i mostly hold it as a reserve to protect against rampant idiocy.
Jan 17 16:47:32 <Namworld>	So should be fine.
Jan 17 16:47:40 <jcpham>	ic
Jan 17 16:47:43 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise, people should have equitable remedy if they're reasonable i think
Jan 17 16:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld o you can ? how ?
Jan 17 16:47:59 <dub>	;;getrating amazingrando
Jan 17 16:47:59 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User amazingrando, rated since Sun Jan  8 01:29:35 2012. Cumulative rating 46, from 15 total ratings. Received ratings: 15 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 11 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=amazingrando
Jan 17 16:48:08 <mircea_popescu>	this guy is kinda noobish, i think detailed explanation would help him a lot.
Jan 17 16:48:12 <Namworld>	There should be an option somewhere.
Jan 17 16:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	(and i never used blockchain myself)
Jan 17 16:48:26 <Namworld>	Some people claimed with a blockchain address signing a message.
Jan 17 16:48:33 <mircea_popescu>	know who ?
Jan 17 16:48:44 <Namworld>	No, I was told how but I don't remember
Jan 17 16:48:53 <dub>	[16:46] <mircea_popescu> if there a way for a user to prove he owns a blockchain address ?
Jan 17 16:48:54 <Namworld>	Should be in one of the dropdown menu when logged in.
Jan 17 16:48:57 <jcpham>	i'd also like to know
Jan 17 16:48:58 <dub>	ask roger?
Jan 17 16:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol dub
Jan 17 16:49:16 <mircea_popescu>	you're possibly the best troll here you know that ?
Jan 17 16:49:21 <jcpham>	the most prolific investor in bitcoin
Jan 17 16:49:26 <jcpham>	that's the verbatim
Jan 17 16:49:57 <gigavps>	bitcoin jesus
Jan 17 16:50:40 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, the dude fucked up. to be fair pretty much anyone in bitcoin has serious self image issues, so.
Jan 17 16:50:43 <pigeons>	i'm roger ver, respect my authorital!
Jan 17 16:51:44 <pigeons>	but i want to write country songs, all the ones i threw away for being too obvious are now #1 hits
Jan 17 16:52:03 <pigeons>	like beer with jesus
Jan 17 16:52:28 <jcpham>	jesus and ipads
Jan 17 16:52:28 *	Guest37141 is now known as jarpiain
Jan 17 16:53:03 <pigeons>	yer lovin made me as sick as a dog, so i'm sickin my dog on you
Jan 17 16:54:07 <jurov>	if not else, at least i know now what "fiduciary" means :P
Jan 17 16:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 17 16:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	comes from fides, in latin. trust.
Jan 17 16:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/fides.html
Jan 17 16:55:17 <mircea_popescu>	a good explanation.
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Jan 17 16:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	"Alright, the contract has been revised, and I'm ready to list the shares. There's a BTC-TC database error preventing me from viewing the issuing account's portfolio, so as soon as Burnside fixes that the shares will be listed."
Jan 17 17:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	thanks to whoever linked that, a thoroughly entertaining read.
Jan 17 17:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	i guess someone selling shares in his ex wife is imminent.
Jan 17 17:01:49 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 17 17:01:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.50001, Best ask: 15.54999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 15.50001, 24 hour volume: 68141.94352689, 24 hour low: 14.60030, 24 hour high: 15.68000, 24 hour vwap: 15.07886
Jan 17 17:02:24 <Korbman>	what the hell...$15.50?
Jan 17 17:02:27 <Korbman>	damn..
Jan 17 17:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	and it's holding for the past few hours
Jan 17 17:03:33 <pigeons>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mOE9fE72QLg
Jan 17 17:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 10 @ 0.10411595 = 1.0412 BTC [+]
Jan 17 17:04:40 <markedathome>	pigeons: just imagine a richard cheese version
Jan 17 17:07:54 <pigeons>	:)
Jan 17 17:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	if micon and inaba were locked in a dark cell naked
Jan 17 17:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	how long would it take before they had sex ?
Jan 17 17:08:48 <jcpham>	consentual or not?
Jan 17 17:08:55 <Korbman>	3.2 minutes
Jan 17 17:08:55 <mircea_popescu>	unspecified.
Jan 17 17:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	i suspect something along those lines.
Jan 17 17:09:22 <jcpham>	under 15 for sure
Jan 17 17:09:34 <jcpham>	once they start breathing in each others' faces
Jan 17 17:10:04 <pigeons>	did they take viagra first?
Jan 17 17:10:43 <pigeons>	today i'm watching videos. i don't do it often
Jan 17 17:10:49 <pigeons>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-grZDvXBm78
Jan 17 17:11:19 <Korbman>	http://www.iamacyborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/going-in-dry.jpg
Jan 17 17:11:39 <kakobrekla>	pigeons usagi?
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Jan 17 17:12:25 <pigeons>	i suspect it is
Jan 17 17:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	guys i have started a project on ltc-global to get some funding for buying the whole coinurl project and bring it back to live
Jan 17 17:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	please have a look here
Jan 17 17:15:57 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 17 17:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	there's some sort of rule of management decay at work.
Jan 17 17:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	like, zhou tong was incompetent. when reality confronted him, he sold out to... bitcoin consultancy. even more incompetent than him, but more numerous.
Jan 17 17:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	there's something to this.
Jan 17 17:22:35 <pigeons>	let me know if you want more
Jan 17 17:22:38 <pigeons>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=462aJmcH3sM
Jan 17 17:28:47 <jcpham>	wtcrap was that
Jan 17 17:28:56 <pigeons>	best song evar!
Jan 17 17:29:00 <pigeons>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktLRiWXfqg
Jan 17 17:29:01 <jcpham>	i want that time back pigeons
Jan 17 17:29:06 <jcpham>	i'm sending you a bill for that
Jan 17 17:29:13 <pigeons>	how long did you watch it
Jan 17 17:29:28 <jcpham>	10 times on repeat
Jan 17 17:29:30 <pigeons>	i waited till the guy with the usa flag dew rap started singing really high
Jan 17 17:30:53 <pigeons>	*rag
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Jan 17 17:38:14 <pigeons>	jcpham: http://www.spudart.org/blogs/randomthoughts_comments/2702_0_3_0_C/
Jan 17 17:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00598998 = 4.193 BTC [-]
Jan 17 17:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 492 @ 0.00598999 = 2.9471 BTC [+]
Jan 17 17:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00598999 = 0.599 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 17:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136803.msg1461090#msg1461090
Jan 17 17:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	the plot. it considerably thickens.
Jan 17 17:42:31 *	leotreasure_ is now known as leotreasure
Jan 17 17:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00067997 = 1.3599 BTC [+]
Jan 17 17:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2094 @ 0.00067998 = 1.4239 BTC [+]
Jan 17 17:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13407 @ 0.00067999 = 9.1166 BTC [+]
Jan 17 17:47:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16516 @ 0.00067999 = 11.2307 BTC [+]
Jan 17 17:48:08 <dub>	how does it go? never attribute to malice..
Jan 17 17:48:36 <dub>	occams electric shaver oslt
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Jan 17 17:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	true.
Jan 17 17:51:10 <jurov>	just got a report that https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/S.DICE-PT goes quite well
Jan 17 17:51:30 <jurov>	mkt cap ~8 BTC , price ~0.006 BTC
Jan 17 17:51:44 <jurov>	serious business.
Jan 17 17:52:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0064 = 0.0128 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 17:53:13 <mircea_popescu>	after the "sell shares in 3d printer" thing i'm  satisfied lol
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Jan 17 17:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	o look, there's a rassah
Jan 17 17:54:32 <dub>	think there is room in the marketz for a 'buy dub a GT86' sekuritai?
Jan 17 17:54:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.3299 = 0.9897 BTC [-]
Jan 17 17:55:19 <dub>	I'll promise to take people for a drive if they knock on my door
Jan 17 17:55:35 <dub>	but I will need to issue more shares when I get speeding tickets
Jan 17 17:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	yes but issue in solidcoin
Jan 17 17:56:39 <dub>	I was thinking i0coin
Jan 17 17:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	no that's for mail0rder brides
Jan 17 17:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	hence i0
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Jan 17 18:00:36 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Thanks for writing a post with good footnotes and explanation: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/sbvps-delisting-notice/
Jan 17 18:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	i try
Jan 17 18:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	and i also love footnotes.
Jan 17 18:01:19 <mircea_popescu>	they're cheaper and more convenient than wearing glasses
Jan 17 18:01:22 <Bugpowder>	as did david foster wallace
Jan 17 18:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	but afford one about the same effect.
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Jan 17 18:05:18 <Bugpowder>	sup Rassah2
Jan 17 18:05:24 <Bugpowder>	sup Rassah1
Jan 17 18:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 17 18:05:36 <Bugpowder>	split personality
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Jan 17 18:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	that worked.
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Jan 17 18:11:10 <Rassah>	Oh hai
Jan 17 18:11:16 <Bugpowder>	herro
Jan 17 18:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	heya
Jan 17 18:12:23 <Namworld>	Hello
Jan 17 18:12:35 <jurov>	ciao
Jan 17 18:12:41 <kakobrekla>	hola
Jan 17 18:12:54 <Rassah>	Was driving from work. No driving and IRCing allowed
Jan 17 18:13:06 <Rassah>	So couldn't say hi earlier
Jan 17 18:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00067289 = 3.4654 BTC [-]
Jan 17 18:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	ok so did you two pick a third judge yet ?
Jan 17 18:16:08 <Rassah>	Yes
Jan 17 18:16:23 <Rassah>	Jcpham
Jan 17 18:17:13 <dub>	who is getting sued?
Jan 17 18:17:32 <Rassah>	And we've discussed stuff, and I think have our next step
Jan 17 18:17:39 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu
Jan 17 18:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	cool, so post so i can add his name
Jan 17 18:17:57 <Rassah>	Should we post what we need on the blog?
Jan 17 18:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome
Jan 17 18:18:03 <Rassah>	Oh, ok
Jan 17 18:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	yup.
Jan 17 18:18:15 <markedathome>	[23:18:09] <dub> who is getting sued?
Jan 17 18:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	me.
Jan 17 18:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
Jan 17 18:18:32 <Bugpowder>	F.GIGA?
Jan 17 18:18:45 <Bugpowder>	Can I join in the class action?
Jan 17 18:18:49 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 17 18:19:06 *	markedathome is baffled -> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-we-pretend-to-be-miners-fo-real/
Jan 17 18:19:21 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: footnotes are very much underappreciated.  zooko does some great footnotes, but uses them mostly for URL citation-style stuff.
Jan 17 18:19:35 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I saw that and realised I've been doing online posts all wrong. lol
Jan 17 18:19:59 <Bugpowder>	yay
Jan 17 18:20:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you can prolly start one
Jan 17 18:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome it's a secret davinci-esque code of hermetic mystery.
Jan 17 18:21:52 <Bugpowder>	not worth the time
Jan 17 18:22:10 <Bugpowder>	btw, the ponzi plot is looking fantastic today
Jan 17 18:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol link ?
Jan 17 18:22:51 <Rassah>	Oh, looks like there are some new posts already. Well, added one more
Jan 17 18:22:59 <midnightmagic>	Rassah: link link link
Jan 17 18:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	ok so jcpham you're the third judge!
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Jan 17 18:23:29 <dub>	midnightmagic: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
Jan 17 18:23:33 <Rassah>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
Jan 17 18:23:38 <midnightmagic>	ah, i see.
Jan 17 18:23:45 *	mircea_popescu does it too
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Jan 17 18:24:21 <markedathome>	i know db has announced the title of the new book. which apparently took 30 secs to solve.
Jan 17 18:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11962 @ 0.00067289 = 8.0491 BTC [-]
Jan 17 18:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1313 @ 0.00066769 = 0.8767 BTC [-]
Jan 17 18:31:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00066494 = 1.1304 BTC [-]
Jan 17 18:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066311 = 6.6311 BTC [-]
Jan 17 18:31:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1125 @ 0.00066193 = 0.7447 BTC [-]
Jan 17 18:34:04 <mircea_popescu>	onoes
Jan 17 18:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	S.MPOE selloff on lawsuit news!
Jan 17 18:35:05 <dub>	FIRESALE
Jan 17 18:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, this bitcoin funny money thing is liek, almost irl
Jan 17 18:38:37 <Bugpowder>	rally on
Jan 17 18:38:39 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 17 18:38:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.55001, Best ask: 15.63899, Bid-ask spread: 0.08898, Last trade: 15.55001, 24 hour volume: 65081.75412806, 24 hour low: 14.60030, 24 hour high: 15.68000, 24 hour vwap: 15.13187
Jan 17 18:40:31 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 17 18:40:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.55003, Best ask: 15.64787, Bid-ask spread: 0.09784, Last trade: 15.63787, 24 hour volume: 64306.40430631, 24 hour low: 14.60030, 24 hour high: 15.68000, 24 hour vwap: 15.13821
Jan 17 18:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	a dime a minute.
Jan 17 18:46:39 <jurov>	 <rg> i just fired 3 people
Jan 17 18:46:54 <jurov>	lol he couldn't do such in bitvps
Jan 17 18:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	no wonder the economy is tanking.
Jan 17 18:47:20 <mircea_popescu>	you hear that Bugpowder ? unemployment figures set to raise next q.
Jan 17 18:47:52 <Bugpowder>	S&P 1,480.94 8.31 +0.56%
Jan 17 18:47:58 <Bugpowder>	6 year high bro
Jan 17 18:48:03 <Bugpowder>	we will see
Jan 17 18:49:13 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 17 18:49:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.60001, Best ask: 15.64732, Bid-ask spread: 0.04731, Last trade: 15.60001, 24 hour volume: 64247.08016946, 24 hour low: 14.63000, 24 hour high: 15.69999, 24 hour vwap: 15.15619
Jan 17 18:49:24 <Bugpowder>	nop thats wrong
Jan 17 18:49:27 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 17 18:49:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.60001, Best ask: 15.64732, Bid-ask spread: 0.04731, Last trade: 15.60001, 24 hour volume: 64247.08016946, 24 hour low: 14.63000, 24 hour high: 15.69999, 24 hour vwap: 15.15619
Jan 17 18:49:32 <Bugpowder>	damn
Jan 17 18:49:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 17 18:49:39 <Bugpowder>	it hit 15.69999
Jan 17 18:49:46 <Bugpowder>	is clark moody slow or gribble
Jan 17 18:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	prolly grib
Jan 17 18:49:53 <mod6>	gribble is slow
Jan 17 18:49:55 <Bugpowder>	or my fingers
Jan 17 18:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	clark is if i recall corectly your own computer making the requests.
Jan 17 18:50:07 <Bugpowder>	that is most likely
Jan 17 18:50:18 <jurov>	!ticker s.mpoe
Jan 17 18:50:19 <assbot>	The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy.
Jan 17 18:50:23 <jurov>	!ticker mp s.mpoe
Jan 17 18:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00065302 / 0.00066948 / 0.00067999 (895716 shares, 599.67 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00066001 / 0.00067999 (7069765 shares, 4,666.17 BTC), 30D: 0.000612 / 0.00063987 / 0.00067999 (39759591 shares, 25,441.14 BTC)
Jan 17 18:50:31 <Bugpowder>	anyway
Jan 17 18:50:35 <Bugpowder>	15.6999
Jan 17 18:50:36 <jurov>	^ up too
Jan 17 18:50:37 <Bugpowder>	new high
Jan 17 18:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	new 2 year high or some shit
Jan 17 18:50:59 <Bugpowder>	your options bot lags fast moves
Jan 17 18:51:00 <jurov>	NEW 10 YEAR HIGH
Jan 17 18:51:04 <mod6>	yeah, its been since august of 11 since the last time it was here.
Jan 17 18:51:11 <Bugpowder>	though probably for a reason
Jan 17 18:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder well bot is on 24h
Jan 17 18:51:37 <Bugpowder>	I'd do a multitimescale
Jan 17 18:51:43 <Bugpowder>	weighted sum
Jan 17 18:51:49 <Bugpowder>	if it wiz me
Jan 17 18:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	but do
Jan 17 18:52:30 <Bugpowder>	dinnnner
Jan 17 18:52:31 <Bugpowder>	later
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Jan 17 18:54:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3299 BTC [-]
Jan 17 18:55:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 34 @ 0.3299 = 11.2166 BTC [-]
Jan 17 18:56:31 <mod6>	;;ticker
Jan 17 18:56:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.55001, Best ask: 15.61183, Bid-ask spread: 0.06182, Last trade: 15.55001, 24 hour volume: 64376.35373078, 24 hour low: 14.63000, 24 hour high: 15.69999, 24 hour vwap: 15.15862
Jan 17 18:56:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.33 = 2.64 BTC [+]
Jan 17 18:56:48 <mod6>	it chewed through that 1500 quick
Jan 17 18:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00595623 = 1.1912 BTC [-]
Jan 17 18:57:40 <mod6>	about 1200 sold down to 15.45, but its bouncin back up
Jan 17 18:58:02 <kakobrekla>	I'm not the law, but I represent justice, wearing fake ces badge wherever i can.
Jan 17 19:01:01 <mod6>	;;ticker
Jan 17 19:01:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.60000, Best ask: 15.63373, Bid-ask spread: 0.03373, Last trade: 15.60000, 24 hour volume: 65938.68516129, 24 hour low: 14.63000, 24 hour high: 15.69999, 24 hour vwap: 15.16893
Jan 17 19:01:13 <mod6>	just hit 15.70 on gox
Jan 17 19:01:37 <mod6>	;;ticker
Jan 17 19:01:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.59000, Best ask: 15.71999, Bid-ask spread: 0.12999, Last trade: 15.59000, 24 hour volume: 66620.50423114, 24 hour low: 14.63000, 24 hour high: 15.71999, 24 hour vwap: 15.17564
Jan 17 19:01:59 <mod6>	its all in the timing :/
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Jan 17 19:08:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00067862 = 3.5288 BTC [+]
Jan 17 19:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00067694 = 6.4309 BTC [-]
Jan 17 19:13:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00067694 = 1.2862 BTC [-]
Jan 17 19:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11965 @ 0.00066884 = 8.0027 BTC [-]
Jan 17 19:14:47 <dub>	btw rg changed his WoT key
Jan 17 19:15:27 <pigeons>	lost his old key?
Jan 17 19:15:31 <jurov>	no he gave the old one away with bitvps
Jan 17 19:15:42 <pigeons>	hmmm
Jan 17 19:15:48 <jurov>	drawing the ire of #bitcoin-assets dwellers
Jan 17 19:16:06 <jurov>	one doesn't just give gpg key to others
Jan 17 19:16:14 <pigeons>	no
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Jan 17 19:17:11 <jurov>	why no? namworld did say they used it to pay divs, no?
Jan 17 19:17:13 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Jan 17 19:17:15 <kakobrekla>	jeez.
Jan 17 19:17:21 <kakobrekla>	cmon someone sell
Jan 17 19:19:28 <pigeons>	you're right, you don't give away your key, you work something out
Jan 17 19:20:52 <jurov>	rg has some explaining to do in #otc when he comes back from shower.. if he'lll bother at all
Jan 17 19:21:18 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla awesome
Jan 17 19:21:20 <jurov>	nobody seems to know what happened around bitvps
Jan 17 19:22:05 <jurov>	but i'm off... nite
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Jan 17 19:29:43 <dub>	I guess one problem is that people who trust rg don't know that they now need to trust other people
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Jan 17 19:30:24 <dub>	the fact that rg trusts them is not really relevant
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Jan 17 19:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00595623 = 1.1912 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 19:46:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00067375 = 7.8829 BTC [+]
Jan 17 19:46:50 <smickles>	jcpham was appointed as the third? mircea_popescu when do argumets start?
Jan 17 19:46:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3033 @ 0.00066884 = 2.0286 BTC [-]
Jan 17 19:52:00 <smickles>	http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox.png
Jan 17 19:52:02 <smickles>	jebus
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Jan 17 19:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00066884 = 12.4739 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 19:58:07 <Rassah>	Hopefully soon
Jan 17 19:58:36 <Rassah>	I'm still a bit confused as to the reason this even went to the rota
Jan 17 20:04:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12952 @ 0.00066884 = 8.6628 BTC [-]
Jan 17 20:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4314 @ 0.00066249 = 2.858 BTC [-]
Jan 17 20:05:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10484 @ 0.00067999 = 7.129 BTC [+]
Jan 17 20:05:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11586 @ 0.00068 = 7.8785 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 20:12:55 <OgNasty>	mircea_popescu: What do you think of the new logo?  https://nastyfans.org
Jan 17 20:14:17 <pigeons>	the buyers and the sellers aren't too close on that S.BVPS
Jan 17 20:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	OgNasty actually it's a lot better
Jan 17 20:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	smickles they started
Jan 17 20:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 17 20:20:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.74226, Best ask: 15.88987, Bid-ask spread: 0.14761, Last trade: 15.88989, 24 hour volume: 67768.21255602, 24 hour low: 14.63000, 24 hour high: 15.88990, 24 hour vwap: 15.21111
Jan 17 20:20:20 <OgNasty>	mircea_popescu: Thank you.  Any other suggestions?
Jan 17 20:20:38 <mircea_popescu>	if anything occurs i'll mention.
Jan 17 20:21:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.7032 = 1.4064 BTC [-]
Jan 17 20:21:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 22 @ 0.7 = 15.4 BTC [-]
Jan 17 20:21:30 <OgNasty>	Charts will be coming soon...
Jan 17 20:21:49 <OgNasty>	If only I could get NastyFans broadcast via @assbot...
Jan 17 20:22:17 <mircea_popescu>	why can't you ?
Jan 17 20:22:34 <OgNasty>	I don't have the answer to that question.
Jan 17 20:23:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 30 @ 0.7 = 21 BTC [-]
Jan 17 20:23:59 <smickles>	lol: "Fixing it now is better than fixing it later." garnered: "Go f*ck yourself now is better than go f*ck yourself later."
Jan 17 20:24:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 50 @ 0.7 = 35 BTC [-]
Jan 17 20:24:32 <mircea_popescu>	sounds legit.
Jan 17 20:24:36 <smickles>	some of the context:
Jan 17 20:24:37 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136795.msg1457904#msg1457904
Jan 17 20:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	but Do you know what hardware and tech the military has?
Jan 17 20:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	i once had sex with this chick that was also a marine.
Jan 17 20:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	do you know what fanny she had ?!
Jan 17 20:26:46 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: apparently they are afraid that they have stuff which is one quadtrillion times better than the theorhetical computing power of the entire planet
Jan 17 20:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	it was in that one movie right ?
Jan 17 20:27:13 <smickles>	answer me this: how can a subset be larger than the whole?
Jan 17 20:27:46 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: what about her calves? musta been huge!
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Jan 17 20:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	she could benchpress my 16 ton hammer.
Jan 17 20:30:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00066249 = 2.6168 BTC [-]
Jan 17 20:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	Confirmed total: 2,239 BTC
Jan 17 20:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	ok, guise, who is inflating bitbet bets!
Jan 17 20:32:58 <OgNasty>	No @assbot for NastyFans. :(  DENIED
Jan 17 20:33:24 <OgNasty>	Off to the Laker game.  Have a good night all.
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Jan 17 20:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	denied lol what ?
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Jan 17 20:44:08 <pigeons>	!ticker wtf OgnAsty
Jan 17 20:44:09 <assbot>	It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
Jan 17 20:46:15 <thestringpuller>	!ticker wtf pigeons
Jan 17 20:46:15 <assbot>	Are you sure you have no tobacco?
Jan 17 20:46:21 <thestringpuller>	!ticker wtf pigeons
Jan 17 20:46:21 <assbot>	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
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Jan 17 20:46:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C150T
Jan 17 20:46:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07071277 / 0.07071277 / 0.07071277 (1 shares, 0.07 BTC), 30D: 0.01498159 / 0.0227757 / 0.17406879 (913 shares, 20.79 BTC)
Jan 17 20:46:45 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C140T
Jan 17 20:46:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1D: 0.1385 / 0.1405432 / 0.1409839 (620 shares, 87.14 BTC), 7D: 0.10808014 / 0.14008878 / 0.14775821 (635 shares, 88.96 BTC), 30D: 0.01359389 / 0.0690355 / 0.19999999 (1671 shares, 115.36 BTC)
Jan 17 20:49:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.07778404 BTC [+]
Jan 17 20:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 10 @ 0.13757515 = 1.3758 BTC [-]
Jan 17 20:50:34 <smickles>	wtf is this wtf command?
Jan 17 20:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker last tango in paris
Jan 17 20:50:54 <assbot>	Have you got any tobacco?
Jan 17 20:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	I got a cigar...
Jan 17 20:52:13 <smickles>	!ticker last mircea_popescu
Jan 17 20:52:14 <assbot>	The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
Jan 17 20:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck
Jan 17 20:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker figlio di puttana
Jan 17 20:52:46 <assbot>	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
Jan 17 20:53:18 <smickles>	!ticker clerks
Jan 17 20:53:18 <assbot>	The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
Jan 17 20:53:22 <smickles>	boo
Jan 17 20:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	assbot : urmom ---> http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135829127564.gif
Jan 17 20:53:55 <smickles>	clearly, that was assbot's conception
Jan 17 20:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 165 @ 0.00066249 = 0.1093 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 20:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11706 @ 0.00066193 = 7.7486 BTC [-]
Jan 17 20:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2829 @ 0.00066 = 1.8671 BTC [-]
Jan 17 20:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00587453 = 2.3498 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 21:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00066422 = 7.5721 BTC [+]
Jan 17 21:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00066 = 6.204 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 21:13:38 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
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Jan 17 21:17:06 <assbot>	0
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Jan 17 21:18:36 <thestringpuller>	who broke assbot
Jan 17 21:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	i guess what has been seen cannot be unseen
Jan 17 21:19:32 <kakobrekla>	im tryin to add some stuff
Jan 17 21:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYGCpGzFWh0
Jan 17 21:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	this should be the bitcoin hymn
Jan 17 21:20:26 <thestringpuller>	;;everify
Jan 17 21:20:26 <gribble>	(everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
Jan 17 21:20:34 <thestringpuller>	;;eauth
Jan 17 21:20:34 <gribble>	(eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
Jan 17 21:20:37 <kakobrekla>	thats the problem
Jan 17 21:20:40 <thestringpuller>	;;eauth thestringpuller
Jan 17 21:20:41 <gribble>	Request successful for user thestringpuller, hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/0FF2943DA179E169
Jan 17 21:20:44 <kakobrekla>	switching between languages
Jan 17 21:20:57 <kakobrekla>	i end up writing js in mql and python in php
Jan 17 21:21:05 <kakobrekla>	no wonder nothing works
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Jan 17 21:21:31 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to assbot
Jan 17 21:21:41 <assbot>	 i haz prwz now. obey.
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Jan 17 21:22:41 <thestringpuller>	;;everify
Jan 17 21:22:43 <gribble>	(everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
Jan 17 21:22:44 <thestringpuller>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:855535b1193e66576780bc7ba4adc284748055c9d43638c764230208
Jan 17 21:22:45 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Jan 17 21:22:56 <thestringpuller>	:(
Jan 17 21:23:18 <thestringpuller>	;;identify
Jan 17 21:23:19 <gribble>	Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
Jan 17 21:23:32 <kakobrekla>	i need a volunteer
Jan 17 21:24:27 <kakobrekla>	someone raise their hand or its you thestringpuller
Jan 17 21:24:57 <thestringpuller>	;;identify smickles
Jan 17 21:24:57 <gribble>	Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
Jan 17 21:25:08 <thestringpuller>	>:(
Jan 17 21:25:23 *	assbot sets ban on *!*@@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net
Jan 17 21:25:23 *	assbot has kicked thestringpuller from #bitcoin-assets (Bye.)
Jan 17 21:25:30 <kakobrekla>	ok it works.
Jan 17 21:25:38 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla
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Jan 17 21:25:51 *	kakobrekla removes ban on *!*@@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net
Jan 17 21:25:58 <thestringpuller>	>:( thanks kakobrekla
Jan 17 21:26:01 <kakobrekla>	was just a test
Jan 17 21:26:11 <kakobrekla>	i volunteered you
Jan 17 21:26:13 <kakobrekla>	no worries
Jan 17 21:26:17 *	kakobrekla removes channel operator status from kakobrekla
Jan 17 21:28:05 <assbot>	 thestringpuller: :*
Jan 17 21:29:12 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 17 21:33:04 <smickles>	thestringpuller: it's ";;ident <nick>"
Jan 17 21:33:17 <thestringpuller>	;;ident thestringpuller
Jan 17 21:33:18 <gribble>	Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
Jan 17 21:33:23 <thestringpuller>	:)
Jan 17 21:37:10 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Jan 17 21:37:15 <kakobrekla>	someone just put another 500 down
Jan 17 21:37:33 <kakobrekla>	:amazed:
Jan 17 21:37:51 <kakobrekla>	2 or 3 bloks ago
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Jan 17 21:47:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 156 @ 0.00040004 = 0.0624 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 21:49:13 <Namworld>	Who sells those at those prices anyway?
Jan 17 21:49:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 216 @ 0.0049 = 1.0584 BTC [-]
Jan 17 21:49:41 <Ukto>	weirdos or bots
Jan 17 21:49:49 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: hey
Jan 17 21:49:58 <Ukto>	I still havent had a chance to do much with teh ff7 disc2
Jan 17 21:50:06 <Ukto>	i cant just stick it in the system and "test" it
Jan 17 21:50:07 <Namworld>	Anyone selling S.BVPS shares?
Jan 17 21:50:11 <smickles>	Namworld: on s.bvps?
Jan 17 21:50:23 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 17 21:50:25 <smickles>	i might know a guy
Jan 17 21:50:31 <Ukto>	it requests to insert disc 1. i would have to play thru disc one. not that i am unwilling. i just havent had anytime for games.
Jan 17 21:50:43 <Ukto>	Namworld: what rate?
Jan 17 21:51:32 <smickles>	Namworld: no go here
Jan 17 21:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4771 @ 0.00066 = 3.1489 BTC [-]
Jan 17 21:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22935 @ 0.00065988 = 15.1343 BTC [-]
Jan 17 21:56:06 <Namworld>	You can offer. Not sure just how much I can pay.
Jan 17 21:56:15 <Namworld>	But I'm buying for my personal stake.
Jan 17 21:56:52 <smickles>	so is s.bvps going to the pink sheets, or privatizing?
Jan 17 21:59:36 <thestringpuller>	isnt it getting delisted?
Jan 17 22:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> :amazed: << i would expect anyone cancelling an order would put a little in
Jan 17 22:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	by way of hedging
Jan 17 22:01:37 <smickles>	"So lets ballpark it to say ~50,000 brand new nuclear reactors constructed and running continually to power nothing but this non-existent alien tech perfect computer for the next 10,000 years .... and it would still only have less than a 10% chance of brute forcing a Bitcoin address."
Jan 17 22:04:43 <mircea_popescu>	"Just realized that 30btc is an actual fee. I'm not able to pay that much just to set up an account. Sorry for the trouble."
Jan 17 22:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	one of these nice exchanges had better started advertising soon
Jan 17 22:05:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.59 = 7.67 BTC [+]
Jan 17 22:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	im getting burried in these
Jan 17 22:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5925 = 1.7775 BTC [+]
Jan 17 22:07:53 <smickles>	"actual fee"
Jan 17 22:08:59 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: why do people think they arn't supposed to pay the fee?
Jan 17 22:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	i blame obama, personally.
Jan 17 22:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00066265 = 14.3132 BTC [+]
Jan 17 22:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00066422 = 7.0739 BTC [+]
Jan 17 22:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2656 @ 0.00066608 = 1.7691 BTC [+]
Jan 17 22:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13742 @ 0.00066755 = 9.1735 BTC [+]
Jan 17 22:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00066908 = 2.877 BTC [+]
Jan 17 22:11:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1082 @ 0.00067161 = 0.7267 BTC [+]
Jan 17 22:13:48 <smickles>	;;tslb
Jan 17 22:13:51 <gribble>	Time since last block: 2 minutes and 4 seconds
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Jan 17 22:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1825 @ 0.00586004 = 10.6946 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:15:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1163 @ 0.00577278 = 6.7137 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2349 @ 0.00575741 = 13.5242 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0057507 = 5.7507 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:15:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1917 @ 0.00573653 = 10.9969 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1746 @ 0.00562305 = 9.8178 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.00100008 = 2.0002 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 65000 @ 0.00100007 = 65.0046 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:17:47 <Namworld>	smickles: we have to decide on that.
Jan 17 22:18:02 <Namworld>	We might relist or do a buyback.
Jan 17 22:19:22 <Namworld>	All I can say for now is that I don't personally intend to drop shareholders and rg asked us to keep everyone.
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Jan 17 22:21:02 <Namworld>	We have to buy servers, we don't want to keep renting them. So we might not be able to do a buyback right away.
Jan 17 22:21:11 <Namworld>	So we'll probably relist.
Jan 17 22:21:28 <smickles>	interesting
Jan 17 22:21:40 <Namworld>	I'll make a statement once we decide.
Jan 17 22:23:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 120 @ 0.31068697 = 37.2824 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:26:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 30 @ 0.31068697 = 9.3206 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 8 @ 0.31068697 = 2.4855 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:27:57 <smickles>	ok, so my bot basically went long at 13.92, good move?
Jan 17 22:28:08 <smickles>	maybe lucky?
Jan 17 22:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	prolly a good move, it's 16 now no ?
Jan 17 22:33:55 <Bugpowder>	smickles was that your bot selling 1 C150T for under exercise?
Jan 17 22:35:01 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 16.98
Jan 17 22:35:04 <gribble>	There are currently 8261.7695 bitcoins offered at or under 16.98 USD, worth 134515.212674 USD in total.
Jan 17 22:35:15 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 19.98
Jan 17 22:35:17 <gribble>	There are currently 23799.02 bitcoins offered at or under 19.98 USD, worth 417539.998424 USD in total.
Jan 17 22:37:22 <smickles>	Bugpowder: when?
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Jan 17 22:38:18 <smickles>	in the beginning when I was testing the selling part, i had it just selling into mpoebot
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Jan 17 22:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 17 22:39:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.73125, Best ask: 15.73999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00874, Last trade: 15.73999, 24 hour volume: 67109.92386210, 24 hour low: 14.63000, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.30923
Jan 17 22:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 180 @ 0.31068697 = 55.9237 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 40 @ 0.31068697 = 12.4275 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 2 @ 0.31068697 = 0.6214 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:42:27 <smickles>	what is this p20 bot upto?
Jan 17 22:44:27 <Namworld>	Selling puts...
Jan 17 22:46:39 <smickles>	but the pattern of the amounts
Jan 17 22:46:58 <smickles>	it's like it doesn't expect to sell all of them
Jan 17 22:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	looks more like it mkopts more out of the proceeds for the sale
Jan 17 22:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.25592664 = 255.9266 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1000 @ 0.19327969 = 193.2797 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:55:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.13797862 = 137.9786 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:55:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00066953 = 7.7665 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:56:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25501 @ 0.00066953 = 17.0737 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:56:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2165 @ 0.00065988 = 1.4286 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:57:33 <smickles>	shouldn't getting margin be more cost effective?
Jan 17 22:59:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 23 @ 0.3299 = 7.5877 BTC [-]
Jan 17 22:59:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [+]
Jan 17 22:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	maybe not big enough for margin
Jan 17 22:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, this was enough excitement for one day. stay out of trouble all!
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Jan 17 23:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00588707 = 0.5887 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 23:05:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00065988 = 5.543 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 23:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2618 @ 0.00067161 = 1.7583 BTC [+]
Jan 17 23:09:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7929 @ 0.00067461 = 5.349 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 23:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 175 @ 0.00588706 = 1.0302 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 23:23:20 <Bugpowder>	BITBET
Jan 17 23:23:21 <Bugpowder>	18-01-13 01:18	Yes	73`039	500.00000000	Link	 /	Link
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Jan 17 23:23:31 <Bugpowder>	BFL betting is heating the fuck up
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Jan 17 23:28:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
Jan 17 23:29:12 <Diablo-D3>	srsly?
Jan 17 23:29:29 <Namworld>	Anyone lending any kind of stocks? Looking to short.
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Jan 17 23:36:38 <Bugpowder>	what do you want?
Jan 17 23:37:15 <Bugpowder>	whales continuing to be at S.DICE
Jan 17 23:37:25 <Bugpowder>	bitbet BFL bet is over 1500 total
Jan 17 23:37:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16409 @ 0.00066082 = 10.8434 BTC [-]
Jan 17 23:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00066082 = 11.1348 BTC [-]
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Jan 17 23:51:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00066145 = 2.9104 BTC [+]
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Jan 17 23:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 225 @ 0.00588706 = 1.3246 BTC [-]
Jan 17 23:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 75 @ 0.00588707 = 0.4415 BTC [+]
Jan 17 23:54:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00066826 = 8.3198 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 00:06:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00066826 = 1.3699 BTC [+]
Jan 18 00:06:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16371 @ 0.00067461 = 11.044 BTC [+]
Jan 18 00:06:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79 @ 0.0006787 = 0.0536 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 00:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7139 @ 0.000664 = 4.7403 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 00:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000664 = 1.328 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 00:26:20 <Namworld>	Buy BTC-BOND
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Jan 18 00:41:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8815 @ 0.0006787 = 5.9827 BTC [+]
Jan 18 00:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 295 @ 0.00067874 = 0.2002 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 00:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00067874 = 15.068 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 01:03:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18071 @ 0.00067632 = 12.2218 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 01:13:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.412 = 0.824 BTC [-]
Jan 18 01:13:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.4051 = 0.8102 BTC [-]
Jan 18 01:13:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.405 BTC [-]
Jan 18 01:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14429 @ 0.00067632 = 9.7586 BTC [-]
Jan 18 01:14:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252 @ 0.000664 = 0.1673 BTC [-]
Jan 18 01:17:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00067874 = 11.1992 BTC [+]
Jan 18 01:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8509 @ 0.000664 = 5.65 BTC [-]
Jan 18 01:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3542 @ 0.00066356 = 2.3503 BTC [-]
Jan 18 01:28:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 01:44:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00067125 = 4.5309 BTC [+]
Jan 18 01:44:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00066356 = 2.6874 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 01:53:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.33 = 2.97 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 02:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00066356 = 4.5122 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 02:20:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00588707 = 5.8871 BTC [+]
Jan 18 02:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7157 @ 0.00067268 = 4.8144 BTC [+]
Jan 18 02:40:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9126 @ 0.00066356 = 6.0556 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 02:44:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13274 @ 0.00066206 = 8.7882 BTC [-]
Jan 18 02:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7476 @ 0.00066567 = 4.9765 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 02:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20312 @ 0.00066567 = 13.5211 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 02:50:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.56 = 2.8 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 02:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8853 @ 0.00066763 = 5.9105 BTC [+]
Jan 18 02:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3241 @ 0.00066082 = 2.1417 BTC [-]
Jan 18 02:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00065989 = 18.4769 BTC [-]
Jan 18 02:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10890 @ 0.00065988 = 7.1861 BTC [-]
Jan 18 02:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13298 @ 0.00067268 = 8.9453 BTC [+]
Jan 18 02:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00067332 = 1.313 BTC [+]
Jan 18 02:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00067474 = 1.5519 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 03:16:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 152 @ 0.00067747 = 0.103 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 03:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067497 = 0.675 BTC [-]
Jan 18 03:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00067498 = 8.8085 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 03:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067497 = 0.675 BTC [-]
Jan 18 03:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3469 @ 0.00067498 = 2.3415 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 03:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00067497 = 0.6075 BTC [-]
Jan 18 03:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00067498 = 7.8973 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 03:46:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17739 @ 0.00067348 = 11.9469 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 03:54:20 <drug_motor>	http://rainbowstalin13.ytmnd.com/
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Jan 18 04:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 911 @ 0.00067348 = 0.6135 BTC [-]
Jan 18 04:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1529 @ 0.00067498 = 1.032 BTC [+]
Jan 18 04:04:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19860 @ 0.00067874 = 13.4798 BTC [+]
Jan 18 04:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 18 04:04:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.61873, Best ask: 15.62000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00127, Last trade: 15.62000, 24 hour volume: 71327.19256529, 24 hour low: 14.75000, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.40766
Jan 18 04:06:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00067874 = 12.7603 BTC [+]
Jan 18 04:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5445 @ 0.00067874 = 3.6957 BTC [+]
Jan 18 04:19:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00067999 = 4.0799 BTC [+]
Jan 18 04:19:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8805 @ 0.00067999 = 5.9873 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 04:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8528 @ 0.00067999 = 5.799 BTC [+]
Jan 18 04:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53922 @ 0.00068 = 36.667 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 04:34:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 20 @ 0.33 = 6.6 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 04:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 18 04:36:36 <assbot>	It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
Jan 18 04:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 18 04:36:41 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00562305 / 0.00581963 / 0.00598999 (25440 shares, 148.05 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00473285 / 0.00598999 (2353905 shares, 11,140.70 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00372888 / 0.00598999 (11724917 shares, 43,720.82 BTC)
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Jan 18 04:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13548 @ 0.00067978 = 9.2097 BTC [-]
Jan 18 04:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/traxt-s.png << 0.1337 btc to anyone who figures out wtf that is.
Jan 18 04:49:36 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: connection graph of coin spends in the chain?
Jan 18 04:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Jan 18 04:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58723 @ 0.00068 = 39.9316 BTC [+]
Jan 18 04:50:04 <Diablo-D3>	looks like a job for D3, though
Jan 18 04:50:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12975 @ 0.00068 = 8.823 BTC [+]
Jan 18 04:53:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00588706 = 0.5887 BTC [-]
Jan 18 04:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1333 @ 0.00588707 = 7.8475 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 05:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4252 @ 0.00067978 = 2.8904 BTC [-]
Jan 18 05:00:57 <markedathome>	sdice betting?
Jan 18 05:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1548 @ 0.00067149 = 1.0395 BTC [-]
Jan 18 05:01:49 <markedathome>	mpex ordering?
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Jan 18 05:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome neither
Jan 18 05:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2556 @ 0.00067149 = 1.7163 BTC [-]
Jan 18 05:08:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10344 @ 0.00066997 = 6.9302 BTC [-]
Jan 18 05:10:32 <markedathome>	mpoe-pr posting ratio of content:troll
Jan 18 05:11:23 <markedathome>	number of times bfl has slipped their shipping date
Jan 18 05:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	neither :D
Jan 18 05:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe-pr trolls !?
Jan 18 05:13:05 <markedathome>	user to btcfpga bitcoin payments and reversals?
Jan 18 05:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Jan 18 05:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	i'll give a hint : the vertical is time
Jan 18 05:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00582625 = 2.9131 BTC [-]
Jan 18 05:14:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00580536 = 4.0638 BTC [-]
Jan 18 05:16:05 <markedathome>	one of the glbse stocks dividends? the gap being the october-late dec?
Jan 18 05:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	nope
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Jan 18 05:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00569484 = 11.3897 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 05:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/since-you-boys-are-printing-tanks-now/
Jan 18 05:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	ahh!
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Jan 18 06:02:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25177 @ 0.00067607 = 17.0214 BTC [+]
Jan 18 06:02:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23523 @ 0.00068 = 15.9956 BTC [+]
Jan 18 06:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 18 06:17:41 <gribble>	Time since last block: 12 minutes and 13 seconds
Jan 18 06:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00067375 = 6.0974 BTC [-]
Jan 18 06:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00067354 = 14.0096 BTC [-]
Jan 18 06:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00066997 = 1.6414 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 06:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00067579 = 3.7506 BTC [+]
Jan 18 06:30:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19906 @ 0.00066997 = 13.3364 BTC [-]
Jan 18 06:30:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8867 @ 0.00066909 = 5.9328 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 06:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3451 @ 0.00066909 = 2.309 BTC [-]
Jan 18 06:37:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10982 @ 0.00066909 = 7.3479 BTC [-]
Jan 18 06:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3718 @ 0.00066312 = 2.4655 BTC [-]
Jan 18 06:41:25 <jago25_98>	Where can I get an intro to how bitcoin assets work... feel a bit skeptical
Jan 18 06:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	you could ask a question here.
Jan 18 06:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5882 @ 0.00066312 = 3.9005 BTC [-]
Jan 18 06:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6768 @ 0.00066081 = 4.4724 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 06:56:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 75 @ 0.0063 = 0.4725 BTC [+]
Jan 18 06:58:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00067579 = 2.4666 BTC [+]
Jan 18 06:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00067777 = 2.4739 BTC [+]
Jan 18 06:58:58 <Ukto>	how it works? weusecoins.org? :P
Jan 18 06:59:02 <Ukto>	you seen that video ?
Jan 18 06:59:06 <Ukto>	not the most detailed granted
Jan 18 06:59:07 <Ukto>	heh
Jan 18 07:03:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00573103 = 7.4503 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 07:09:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00067777 = 13.4537 BTC [+]
Jan 18 07:09:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00067874 = 1.6969 BTC [+]
Jan 18 07:09:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00068 = 0.238 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 07:20:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067999 = 0.68 BTC [-]
Jan 18 07:20:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16859 @ 0.00068 = 11.4641 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 07:24:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067999 = 0.68 BTC [-]
Jan 18 07:24:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11041 @ 0.00068 = 7.5079 BTC [+]
Jan 18 07:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00067163 = 1.6791 BTC [-]
Jan 18 07:29:40 <Schadenfreude>	 I like how the speculation moved to S.MPOE after the price jumped on S.DICE
Jan 18 07:29:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3213 @ 0.00066815 = 2.1468 BTC [-]
Jan 18 07:32:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00067163 = 13.2311 BTC [+]
Jan 18 07:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11972 @ 0.00068 = 8.141 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 07:35:57 <pigeons>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 18 07:35:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006592 / 0.00067222 / 0.00068 (1713736 shares, 1,152.02 BTC), 7D: 0.00062772 / 0.00066182 / 0.00068 (7984446 shares, 5,284.29 BTC), 30D: 0.000612 / 0.0006408 / 0.00068 (40520553 shares, 25,965.93 BTC)
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Jan 18 07:37:01 <pigeons>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 18 07:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00562305 / 0.00580999 / 0.00598999 (30973 shares, 179.95 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00473568 / 0.00598999 (2338118 shares, 11,072.60 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00372991 / 0.00598999 (11730850 shares, 43,755.07 BTC)
Jan 18 07:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00569484 = 7.9728 BTC [-]
Jan 18 07:38:13 <jago25_98>	I know bitcoin very well, but not sure how the various assets are enforced
Jan 18 07:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude yeah
Jan 18 07:39:24 <mircea_popescu>	jago25_98 ok, well, so formulate some q's.
Jan 18 07:39:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 18 07:39:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.61700, Best ask: 15.62000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00300, Last trade: 15.59001, 24 hour volume: 77117.60812390, 24 hour low: 14.84978, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.46155
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Jan 18 07:40:27 <jago25_98>	mircea_popescu: I guess the question is... if I buy stock... how do I know it's not a scam. Perhaps I need to read how the normal stock market works first
Jan 18 07:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	so basically we went up a whole dollar because somebody wanted 20k of bitcoins to keep on top of the ~50k being dicked around back and forth every given day
Jan 18 07:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	jago25_98 well, this is called due dilligence.
Jan 18 07:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	mpex has signed contracts, the first step is to read those. then you evaluate the owner, the business, investing is a process
Jan 18 07:41:18 <jago25_98>	I need some sort of begineers guide
Jan 18 07:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	but ultimately you never know with certainty it won't ever blow up
Jan 18 07:41:32 <jago25_98>	ah ok it's all on a signiture
Jan 18 07:41:49 <mircea_popescu>	yes, all business is built on a signature
Jan 18 07:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	hence the word firm. it comes from medieval italian for signature (firma)
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Jan 18 07:45:27 <jago25_98>	So main difference to a major stock exchange is that the price is denominated in BTC. There's nothing new
Jan 18 07:49:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00067999 = 0.34 BTC [-]
Jan 18 07:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24296 @ 0.00068 = 16.5213 BTC [+]
Jan 18 07:51:06 <mircea_popescu>	could there ever be something new ?
Jan 18 07:51:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33 = 0.99 BTC [+]
Jan 18 07:53:58 <jurov>	like what? satoshi came out, intends to fund space colonization?
Jan 18 07:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	how would that be new ? it still would be... his signature.
Jan 18 07:55:19 <thestringpuller>	i would say mpex stocks are as reputable as traditional stocks due to the amount of trust that goes into it
Jan 18 07:55:32 <thestringpuller>	with each new scam mpex's trust (as well as the others) goes up
Jan 18 07:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	kind of hard to compare.
Jan 18 07:59:34 <azx>	lol, how did you come up with that?
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Jan 18 08:16:44 <azx>	thestringpuller: how did you come up with that? -> "i would say mpex stocks are as reputable as traditional stocks due to the amount of trust that goes into it "
Jan 18 08:17:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23440 @ 0.00068 = 15.9392 BTC [+]
Jan 18 08:18:04 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 18 08:19:07 <Bugpowder>	MPEX stocks are just a speculative risk / reward play.  Risks are much higher than an SP500 stock, rewards are much higher too, so far at least.
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Jan 18 08:21:00 <azx>	"thestringpuller | with each new scam mpex's trust (as well as the others) goes up "
Jan 18 08:21:11 <azx>	amazing :)
Jan 18 08:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	azx i think he meant "scam not on mpex"
Jan 18 08:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	"Update: rumors of bASIC’s demise have been, at least for now, grossly exaggerated." gotta love the bitcoin rag, such reliable reporting.
Jan 18 08:23:27 <pigeons>	I am sorry I let you down I really am and I hope the Asians took good care of you.
Jan 18 08:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, i am really flabbergasted at everyone's use of qfn for asic chips.
Jan 18 08:24:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00068 = 14.416 BTC [+]
Jan 18 08:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck was going on in their heads ? qfn is for chips that never do any work like ever.
Jan 18 08:25:45 <pigeons>	yeah but doesn't unicorn blood only work with qfn
Jan 18 08:26:08 <mircea_popescu>	no but srsly now...
Jan 18 08:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	"Not surprisingly I have a lot of new refund mail - please understand that it takes a lot of time to work through them - no response doesn't mean I'm ignoring you.  I'm also not going to work a whole lot today, as I have some life things to attend to."
Jan 18 08:26:57 <mircea_popescu>	and then people bitch at mpoe-pr
Jan 18 08:28:16 <mircea_popescu>	then 2 days later
Jan 18 08:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	"Hi everybody - I just wanted you to know that I'm getting your mails - but I can't personally respond to all of them in good time, so I'm posting here.  I've had a major personal upset that has tied me up for two days, so I haven't done the refunds as quickly as you'd like."
Jan 18 08:30:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00068 = 0.612 BTC [+]
Jan 18 08:30:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00067278 = 13.5229 BTC [-]
Jan 18 08:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00068 = 9.248 BTC [+]
Jan 18 08:40:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00569484 = 1.7085 BTC [-]
Jan 18 08:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00568477 = 5.6848 BTC [-]
Jan 18 08:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2850 @ 0.00567915 = 16.1856 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 08:46:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00067448 = 15.884 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 09:03:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.00067448 = 19.9309 BTC [-]
Jan 18 09:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29150 @ 0.00067278 = 19.6115 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 09:25:37 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Jan 18 09:25:37 <gribble>	You are identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
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Jan 18 09:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14345 @ 0.00067278 = 9.651 BTC [-]
Jan 18 09:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3241 @ 0.00066815 = 2.1655 BTC [-]
Jan 18 09:34:55 <thestringpuller>	azx: as I said with each scam makes reputable people look more reputable...
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Jan 18 09:37:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12319 @ 0.00067802 = 8.3525 BTC [+]
Jan 18 09:41:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5584 @ 0.00067802 = 3.7861 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 09:51:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2247 @ 0.00067802 = 1.5235 BTC [+]
Jan 18 09:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10853 @ 0.0006792 = 7.3714 BTC [+]
Jan 18 09:51:21 <thestringpuller>	jurov: make my coinbr accont inactive for now
Jan 18 09:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5246 @ 0.00066815 = 3.5051 BTC [-]
Jan 18 09:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1604 @ 0.00066814 = 1.0717 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 09:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17646 @ 0.00066814 = 11.79 BTC [-]
Jan 18 09:58:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4511 @ 0.00066791 = 3.0129 BTC [-]
Jan 18 09:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2393 @ 0.00066697 = 1.5961 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 10:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00067652 = 2.3002 BTC [+]
Jan 18 10:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00067652 = 11.0949 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 10:12:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00129998 = 0.65 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 10:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0053624 = 2.6812 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 10:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00067652 = 2.5031 BTC [+]
Jan 18 10:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00066697 = 3.2682 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 10:27:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2047 @ 0.0006792 = 1.3903 BTC [+]
Jan 18 10:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10253 @ 0.00068 = 6.972 BTC [+]
Jan 18 10:28:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0053624 = 2.6812 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 10:35:32 <azx>	LOL "Major Puppets Exchange" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1462442#msg1462442
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Jan 18 10:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12757 @ 0.00066697 = 8.5085 BTC [-]
Jan 18 10:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 343 @ 0.00066696 = 0.2288 BTC [-]
Jan 18 10:42:05 <Korbman>	;;ticker
Jan 18 10:42:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.61550, Best ask: 15.69299, Bid-ask spread: 0.07749, Last trade: 15.69399, 24 hour volume: 74631.17637130, 24 hour low: 14.86861, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.51891
Jan 18 10:42:20 <Korbman>	damn, that's impressive...I wonder how long it'll hold
Jan 18 10:47:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+]
Jan 18 10:51:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
Jan 18 10:51:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0053624 = 1.0725 BTC [-]
Jan 18 10:52:53 <Schadenfreude>	Pop, pop, watching stocks drop
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Jan 18 10:54:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.78 = 1.56 BTC [+]
Jan 18 10:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15742 @ 0.00067543 = 10.6326 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 10:54:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 10:55:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.8899 = 1.7798 BTC [+]
Jan 18 10:55:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 50 @ 0.8899 = 44.495 BTC [+]
Jan 18 10:57:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 51 @ 0.8995 = 45.8745 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 10:58:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.9 = 3.6 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 11:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0052 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Jan 18 11:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2350 @ 0.00519852 = 12.2165 BTC [-]
Jan 18 11:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00515816 = 2.5791 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 11:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00067269 = 5.7179 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 11:32:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00067052 = 11.4659 BTC [-]
Jan 18 11:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00066696 = 1.2672 BTC [-]
Jan 18 11:36:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00067269 = 1.3454 BTC [+]
Jan 18 11:36:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00067543 = 6.349 BTC [+]
Jan 18 11:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16523 @ 0.00068 = 11.2356 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 11:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0053624 = 1.0725 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 11:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0053624 = 8.0436 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 11:53:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13492 @ 0.00068 = 9.1746 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 12:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00067839 = 0.7462 BTC [-]
Jan 18 12:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00067035 = 20.5797 BTC [-]
Jan 18 12:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00066696 = 11.405 BTC [-]
Jan 18 12:08:06 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 18 12:08:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.70001, Best ask: 15.74999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 15.70001, 24 hour volume: 69292.11059501, 24 hour low: 15.20000, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.58173
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Jan 18 12:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0053624 = 2.145 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 12:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00068 = 7.718 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 12:25:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 98 @ 0.0053624 = 0.5255 BTC [+]
Jan 18 12:26:18 <jcpham>	what's new
Jan 18 12:40:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.575 = 2.875 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 12:51:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
Jan 18 12:51:20 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Jan 18 12:51:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.70002, Best ask: 15.78999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08997, Last trade: 15.70002, 24 hour volume: 68639.23158158, 24 hour low: 15.20000, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.59218
Jan 18 12:51:23 <Diablo-D3>	apparently this is a thing now
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Jan 18 12:57:48 <jurov>	thestringpuller, you should have withdrawn everything to the last satoshi... then the account is considered inactive
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Jan 18 13:01:20 <jurov>	now either i'll add complications to accomodate you, or it will automatically subtract monthly fee till all the crumbs are wiped
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Jan 18 13:14:16 <mod6>	werd up
Jan 18 13:17:38 <mod6>	;;ticker
Jan 18 13:17:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.75001, Best ask: 15.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 15.75001, 24 hour volume: 67569.84455962, 24 hour low: 15.20000, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.59871
Jan 18 13:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00545797 = 1.0916 BTC [+]
Jan 18 13:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 735 @ 0.00545796 = 4.0116 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 13:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3167 @ 0.00067507 = 2.1379 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 13:40:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00067137 = 10.8091 BTC [-]
Jan 18 13:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00067112 = 1.6107 BTC [-]
Jan 18 13:41:50 <jurov>	;;tell assbot !ticker
Jan 18 13:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19578 @ 0.00067112 = 13.1392 BTC [-]
Jan 18 13:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1807 @ 0.00066696 = 1.2052 BTC [-]
Jan 18 13:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11115 @ 0.00066495 = 7.3909 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 13:49:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9933 @ 0.00067168 = 6.6718 BTC [+]
Jan 18 13:49:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2606 @ 0.00068 = 1.7721 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 13:55:43 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 18 13:55:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.76001, Best ask: 15.79989, Bid-ask spread: 0.03988, Last trade: 15.71616, 24 hour volume: 64511.61661050, 24 hour low: 15.20000, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.61656
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Jan 18 14:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3285 @ 0.00066495 = 2.1844 BTC [-]
Jan 18 14:05:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7407 @ 0.0006633 = 4.9131 BTC [-]
Jan 18 14:06:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0006633 = 9.3857 BTC [-]
Jan 18 14:09:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 756 @ 0.0006633 = 0.5015 BTC [-]
Jan 18 14:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066159 = 6.6159 BTC [-]
Jan 18 14:09:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4244 @ 0.00066158 = 2.8077 BTC [-]
Jan 18 14:15:36 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: any good news regarding DMC?
Jan 18 14:17:20 <jcpham>	first miner on the moon
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Jan 18 14:23:21 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 18 14:23:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.66113, Best ask: 15.70998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04885, Last trade: 15.70998, 24 hour volume: 62158.54979153, 24 hour low: 15.20000, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.62612
Jan 18 14:24:19 <markedathome>	suprised no one has put a single up on a helium balloon and sent it NEO.
Jan 18 14:25:17 <smickles>	jcpham: that sounds awesome, and doable. send the data, via laser to those mirrors, up there and back
Jan 18 14:26:04 <smickles>	i mean, it would count if you used a custom miner to send the getwork to the moon and back to your compy, right?
Jan 18 14:26:54 <jcpham>	latency
Jan 18 14:27:20 <smickles>	a good thing to sacrifice to be the first moon miner :D
Jan 18 14:27:58 <markedathome>	but won't someone think of the cheese!
Jan 18 14:31:14 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Jan 18 14:32:48 <EskimoBob>	markedathome: we can call that miner The Cheese Cutter
Jan 18 14:33:58 <markedathome>	I'll have to ask Wallace about that. He might have some ideas on crackers and Wensleydale. Or a nice bit of cheddar.
Jan 18 14:38:09 <jcpham>	seriously....if we mine all the cheese from the moon, then what
Jan 18 14:38:11 <jcpham>	i like cheese
Jan 18 14:41:40 <mircea_popescu>	then we cheese all the mine out of the spoon
Jan 18 14:47:19 <jurov>	lol actually 2 days ago local newspaper did send balloon to stratosphere... with cheese dumplings sample attached
Jan 18 14:47:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-advantages-of-having-a-baby/
Jan 18 14:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	feel free to bother the start-up/entrepreneurial crowd with that one :D
Jan 18 14:48:52 <jcpham>	hey! i have a baby!
Jan 18 14:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8930 @ 0.00067837 = 6.0578 BTC [+]
Jan 18 14:49:11 <jurov>	better stress tolerance? actually need less to be happy? citation needed
Jan 18 14:49:19 <mircea_popescu>	point of fact.
Jan 18 14:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham good for you hehe
Jan 18 14:49:47 <jcpham>	i hate businesses also.
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Jan 18 14:51:17 <mircea_popescu>	they're the worst.
Jan 18 14:56:28 <jurov>	and employment is slavery, too.
Jan 18 14:56:40 <jurov>	hard choice :P
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Jan 18 14:57:50 <mircea_popescu>	innit.
Jan 18 14:58:16 <mircea_popescu>	the best way is being rich through inheritance i tell you.
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Jan 18 15:04:47 <Namworld>	Well... free money is always nice.
Jan 18 15:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3983 @ 0.00067797 = 2.7004 BTC [-]
Jan 18 15:05:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6019 @ 0.00066267 = 3.9886 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 15:08:38 <Namworld>	It's not really free tho
Jan 18 15:09:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4241 @ 0.00066267 = 2.8104 BTC [-]
Jan 18 15:09:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8456 @ 0.00066158 = 5.5943 BTC [-]
Jan 18 15:09:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8403 @ 0.00066151 = 5.5587 BTC [-]
Jan 18 15:10:00 <Namworld>	It would be my opinion that any large sum inherited should not be touched but invested. And at maximum, only take earnings above inflation rate for personal use.
Jan 18 15:10:09 <Namworld>	Keep it growing.
Jan 18 15:11:43 <jurov>	Namworld, similarly like "inherited" mpex listed business, no?
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Jan 18 15:12:21 <Ukto>	jcpham: I have 4 babys
Jan 18 15:12:24 <Namworld>	That's not really inherited...
Jan 18 15:12:27 <Ukto>	well, 2~8
Jan 18 15:12:29 <Ukto>	just turned 8
Jan 18 15:12:33 <Ukto>	and then my wife
Jan 18 15:12:35 <Ukto>	technically 5 babys
Jan 18 15:12:51 <Namworld>	Inherited would imply it's all mine.
Jan 18 15:12:58 <Ukto>	and taxes
Jan 18 15:13:03 <Ukto>	hate inheritence tax
Jan 18 15:14:08 <Namworld>	Can the gov finally make it's system fully digital? Valid for almost any government in the world.
Jan 18 15:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto does she get spanked if she misbehaves too ?
Jan 18 15:15:15 <Namworld>	The system is ineficient and always rely on paper... It's expensive and time consuming to maintain...
Jan 18 15:15:16 *	Ukto is in the U.S. so pleads the 5th ammendment.
Jan 18 15:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 18 15:16:17 <Ukto>	alsomst used the 1st...
Jan 18 15:16:20 <Ukto>	but thought better of it
Jan 18 15:16:21 <Ukto>	:P
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Jan 18 15:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	"o ease the point into a "low information voter" sort of mental context, think of it in terms of television"
Jan 18 15:28:46 <mircea_popescu>	ok jurov, i think that's her meanest to date.
Jan 18 15:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6566.msg1462508#msg1462508
Jan 18 15:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00553918 = 4.4313 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 15:32:02 <jcpham>	i've basically overtaken anyone that might provide me with some nest egg or inheritance
Jan 18 15:32:29 <jcpham>	probably in the last 5 years or so
Jan 18 15:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	at tankpoint ?
Jan 18 15:37:31 <jcpham>	http://g1.std3.ru/G/1/C4/F8/35270-3871c55c154565b4fea5c7c0717966f5.jpg
Jan 18 15:38:55 <Namworld>	lol, what the fuck
Jan 18 15:40:06 <jcpham>	also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ36S3d1CaU
Jan 18 15:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.549 = 15.921 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 15:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.545 BTC [-]
Jan 18 15:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.545 = 5.45 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 16:01:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00067201 = 1.5456 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 16:05:11 <lkjlkjlkj>	I  was reading this http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-advantages-of-having-a-baby/ Master Puppet pasted here and I think this impotent fuck is a retard
Jan 18 16:05:47 *	lkjlkjlkj is now known as afk_afk001
Jan 18 16:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00066441 = 2.3254 BTC [-]
Jan 18 16:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6647 @ 0.00066325 = 4.4086 BTC [-]
Jan 18 16:07:05 <afk_afk001>	hopefully, he is never going to contaminate the gene pool :)
Jan 18 16:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00067201 = 3.2928 BTC [+]
Jan 18 16:11:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1070 @ 0.00067837 = 0.7259 BTC [+]
Jan 18 16:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2630 @ 0.00067838 = 1.7841 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 16:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136911
Jan 18 16:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	i guess im the only person that's not really worried about that ?
Jan 18 16:34:25 <Namworld>	I'm not worried either
Jan 18 16:34:36 <Namworld>	Although I would say more bitcoins is better.
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Jan 18 16:36:16 <mod6>	yeah MOAR
Jan 18 16:37:04 <Namworld>	... MOAR!
Jan 18 16:37:13 <mod6>	:D
Jan 18 16:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11753 @ 0.00066325 = 7.7952 BTC [-]
Jan 18 16:41:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15297 @ 0.00066151 = 10.1191 BTC [-]
Jan 18 16:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	moar is better.
Jan 18 16:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14446 @ 0.00066151 = 9.5562 BTC [-]
Jan 18 16:58:21 <jurov>	you crashed bitcointalk again
Jan 18 16:59:19 <jurov>	theymos should raise money for phat pipe and moar serverz...and then vanish :P
Jan 18 16:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol doens't have like 5k or something already collected ?
Jan 18 16:59:51 <jurov>	that's not enough
Jan 18 16:59:59 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Jan 18 17:00:50 <jurov>	just loaded...I calculate again and again and still I have not enaugh bitcoins...orly?
Jan 18 17:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	shoudl calculate moar times
Jan 18 17:03:26 <jurov>	mircea, this is what worries you? "If Bitcoin grows too quickly - too many great minds might be idling around on beaches and frolicking with hookers n blow instead of building great things"
Jan 18 17:04:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3081 @ 0.00066151 = 2.0381 BTC [-]
Jan 18 17:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9182 @ 0.00066081 = 6.0676 BTC [-]
Jan 18 17:04:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6921 @ 0.00066078 = 4.5733 BTC [-]
Jan 18 17:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6601 @ 0.0006595 = 4.3534 BTC [-]
Jan 18 17:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	heeh i've done my fair share of frolicking
Jan 18 17:04:52 <jurov>	btw, on the topic on "over average minds" today's dilbert is spot on
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Jan 18 17:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	link ?
Jan 18 17:06:12 <jurov>	http://www.dilbert.com/
Jan 18 17:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6906 @ 0.00067268 = 4.6455 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:07:30 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 18 17:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.579 = 4.053 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:13:43 <Namworld>	top 110%... is that 10% out of the range of the normal population? Aka in the -10%?
Jan 18 17:14:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13935 @ 0.00067268 = 9.3738 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	something like that.
Jan 18 17:16:25 <Namworld>	Sounds about right
Jan 18 17:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.579 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:17:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13965 @ 0.00067332 = 9.4029 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:17:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 185 @ 0.0006655 = 0.1231 BTC [-]
Jan 18 17:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.0055361 = 10.2418 BTC [-]
Jan 18 17:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.579 = 5.79 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:29:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1023 @ 0.0055361 = 5.6634 BTC [-]
Jan 18 17:29:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1288 @ 0.0055824 = 7.1901 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:29:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 965 @ 0.00562288 = 5.4261 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 17:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	who was the havelock guy ?
Jan 18 17:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	topace https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137235.0
Jan 18 17:39:29 <smickles>	topace?
Jan 18 17:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	um... no ?
Jan 18 17:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	what a birdy whispered @me
Jan 18 17:42:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067415 = 2.913 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00067426 = 3.9107 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12379 @ 0.00067838 = 8.3977 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066563 = 2.8762 BTC [-]
Jan 18 17:43:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.0006655 = 3.5797 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 17:58:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067814 = 2.9302 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:58:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3241 @ 0.00067838 = 2.1986 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:58:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20493 @ 0.00068 = 13.9352 BTC [+]
Jan 18 17:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136953.msg1463176#msg1463176
Jan 18 17:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	price keeps soaring upwards and other things.
Jan 18 17:59:56 <markedathome>	and the followup advice!?
Jan 18 18:02:20 <jurov>	obviously, money = filth.
Jan 18 18:03:13 <thestringpuller>	;;tickee
Jan 18 18:03:14 <gribble>	Error: "tickee" is not a valid command.
Jan 18 18:03:15 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 18 18:03:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.74001, Best ask: 15.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 15.74001, 24 hour volume: 58044.24259200, 24 hour low: 15.41000, 24 hour high: 15.98500, 24 hour vwap: 15.67347
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Jan 18 18:14:14 <thestringpuller>	mod6 you around?
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Jan 18 18:15:01 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 18 18:15:02 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 35 minutes and 32 seconds ago: <smickles> topace?
Jan 18 18:15:26 <mod6>	hey whats up thestringpuller
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Jan 18 18:17:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066575 = 2.8767 BTC [-]
Jan 18 18:17:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066561 = 2.8761 BTC [-]
Jan 18 18:17:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13486 @ 0.0006655 = 8.9749 BTC [-]
Jan 18 18:17:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 722 @ 0.0006643 = 0.4796 BTC [-]
Jan 18 18:18:25 <jurov>	yup barebackbot is on it again :)
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Jan 18 18:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066446 = 2.8711 BTC [+]
Jan 18 18:21:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19979 @ 0.0006643 = 13.272 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 18:37:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.000665 = 12.635 BTC [+]
Jan 18 18:37:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.0006643 = 1.8933 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 18:49:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16799 @ 0.0006643 = 11.1596 BTC [-]
Jan 18 18:49:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00065996 = 5.4117 BTC [-]
Jan 18 18:49:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12499 @ 0.0006595 = 8.2431 BTC [-]
Jan 18 18:49:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7257 @ 0.00065898 = 4.7822 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 19:05:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7369 @ 0.00065898 = 4.856 BTC [-]
Jan 18 19:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1219 @ 0.0006589 = 0.8032 BTC [-]
Jan 18 19:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.525 BTC [-]
Jan 18 19:10:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.481 = 4.81 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 19:14:47 <kakobrekla>	dont forget do drop these in your eyes before going to teh forums http://shrani.si/f/1O/HE/1XrqjeDY/imag0276.jpg
Jan 18 19:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Jan 18 19:15:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.4249 BTC [+]
Jan 18 19:25:29 <jurov>	and protective eyewear/gloves, ofc
Jan 18 19:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00067671 = 2.6392 BTC [+]
Jan 18 19:27:26 <kakobrekla>	umm
Jan 18 19:27:37 <kakobrekla>	what happend to bitmit or that ebay like bitcoin site
Jan 18 19:27:42 <kakobrekla>	is it closed for good now?
Jan 18 19:29:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12421 @ 0.00066857 = 8.3043 BTC [-]
Jan 18 19:30:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14879 @ 0.0006589 = 9.8038 BTC [-]
Jan 18 19:45:17 <jurov>	just another drama material
Jan 18 19:45:31 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41592.440
Jan 18 19:46:07 <jurov>	original owner silently sold it, it was discovered only cause new owner doesn't speak german
Jan 18 19:46:57 <jurov>	and in meantime there were some offers to sell bitmit that were later retracted (decoys, perhaps?)
Jan 18 19:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	jurov a i recall that, they put it up for sale cause "legal concerns" on the site itself
Jan 18 19:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	then it mysteriouslydidn't make the unspecified reserve
Jan 18 19:51:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 421 @ 0.00067671 = 0.2849 BTC [+]
Jan 18 19:51:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14579 @ 0.00067703 = 9.8704 BTC [+]
Jan 18 19:53:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067462 = 2.915 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 20:03:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.0006745 = 5.6658 BTC [-]
Jan 18 20:05:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.0006745 = 7.5881 BTC [-]
Jan 18 20:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9621 @ 0.00066399 = 6.3882 BTC [-]
Jan 18 20:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00067436 = 2.4614 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 20:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066399 = 6.6399 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 20:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 671 @ 0.00067436 = 0.4525 BTC [+]
Jan 18 20:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7479 @ 0.00067459 = 5.0453 BTC [+]
Jan 18 20:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00547355 = 10.6734 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 20:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066418 = 2.8699 BTC [-]
Jan 18 20:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7579 @ 0.00066399 = 5.0324 BTC [-]
Jan 18 20:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00066336 = 3.3831 BTC [-]
Jan 18 20:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067437 = 2.914 BTC [+]
Jan 18 20:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00067459 = 7.0495 BTC [+]
Jan 18 20:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3934 @ 0.00067703 = 2.6634 BTC [+]
Jan 18 20:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2995 @ 0.00067838 = 2.0317 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 21:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 953 @ 0.00545796 = 5.2014 BTC [-]
Jan 18 21:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00540345 = 9.1859 BTC [-]
Jan 18 21:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00528914 = 1.0578 BTC [-]
Jan 18 21:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3749 @ 0.00528913 = 19.8289 BTC [-]
Jan 18 21:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 398 @ 0.00521638 = 2.0761 BTC [-]
Jan 18 21:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 102 @ 0.00521638 = 0.5321 BTC [-]
Jan 18 21:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1476 @ 0.00521636 = 7.6993 BTC [-]
Jan 18 21:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 422 @ 0.00515816 = 2.1767 BTC [-]
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Jan 18 21:36:58 <kakobrekla>	>>people were crossing out the "V" on the wristband so that it read "LIE STRONG"
Jan 18 21:37:01 <kakobrekla>	oh lol.
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Jan 18 21:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067808 = 2.93 BTC [-]
Jan 18 21:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2279 @ 0.00067838 = 1.546 BTC [+]
Jan 18 21:40:25 <kakobrekla>	o looky something for -pr to chew on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137291.0;topicseen
Jan 18 21:43:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067824 = 2.9307 BTC [-]
Jan 18 21:43:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6979 @ 0.00067838 = 4.7344 BTC [+]
Jan 18 21:47:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3047 @ 0.00067838 = 2.067 BTC [+]
Jan 18 21:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11903 @ 0.00067999 = 8.0939 BTC [+]
Jan 18 21:50:03 <Namworld>	Is there anything MPOE-PR doesn't or cannot chew on?
Jan 18 21:51:32 <Namworld>	Well at least they could afford to do a proffesional design like SatoshiDice... but what about the coding?
Jan 18 21:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00546512 = 11.4768 BTC [+]
Jan 18 21:51:44 <Namworld>	professional*
Jan 18 21:51:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 223 @ 0.00547355 = 1.2206 BTC [+]
Jan 18 21:52:01 <kakobrekla>	dunno
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Jan 18 21:52:17 <kakobrekla>	but what im worried about is some guy with 7 posts
Jan 18 21:53:06 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Jan 18 21:53:12 <kakobrekla>	i guess if sd goes down
Jan 18 21:53:18 <kakobrekla>	they might have a chance
Jan 18 21:53:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16097 @ 0.00067999 = 10.9458 BTC [+]
Jan 18 21:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16203 @ 0.00068 = 11.018 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 21:59:50 <smickles>	Namworld: I want more ram D:
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Jan 18 22:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla how many bet sites since the bitbet ipo ? 11 ?
Jan 18 22:01:42 <kakobrekla>	hehe there about :>
Jan 18 22:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld people need to start coming to terms with the fact that coding doesn't matter.
Jan 18 22:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	it's like a "new car company" came to the car show on the strength of "there exists gasoline"
Jan 18 22:03:05 <mircea_popescu>	sure there's gasoline. it's a commodity. widely available, not too expensive.
Jan 18 22:03:53 <kakobrekla>	well, having your site not fall to pieces is a good first step ya know
Jan 18 22:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Jan 18 22:04:29 <mircea_popescu>	"hi, i'd like to marry your daughter" "what can you tell me about yourself ?" "i have a penis"
Jan 18 22:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	"it doesn't fall to pieces"
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Jan 18 22:04:58 <kakobrekla>	"hi, i'd like to marry your daughter" "what can you tell me about yourself ?" "im missing an arm, both legs and half of my head"
Jan 18 22:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 18 22:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	braaaaaaiiinsss
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Jan 18 22:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.00547355 = 16.968 BTC [+]
Jan 18 22:08:18 <mircea_popescu>	o, it's not even a bet site, it's a dice site. nice going lol.
Jan 18 22:08:28 <kakobrekla>	yea
Jan 18 22:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	hi, welcome to Willams Bakery, we sell sausage.
Jan 18 22:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13585607088.jpg << somebody needs to hire her as pr.
Jan 18 22:09:41 <kakobrekla>	how much
Jan 18 22:10:06 <mircea_popescu>	3 sites a day.
Jan 18 22:10:28 <kakobrekla>	i visit more than tha.
Jan 18 22:10:29 <kakobrekla>	t
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Jan 18 22:29:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.4249 BTC [+]
Jan 18 22:29:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.425 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 22:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	bah so i bet .1 btc on sd and i lost
Jan 18 22:36:42 <mircea_popescu>	what a scam.
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Jan 18 22:40:02 <Namworld>	smickles: you do?
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Jan 18 22:41:13 <Namworld>	mircea: all betting games are a consented self-scamming.
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Jan 18 22:51:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00535586 = 6.427 BTC [-]
Jan 18 22:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like marriage. you know it doesn't end well statistically and do it anyway.
Jan 18 22:54:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21657 @ 0.00068 = 14.7268 BTC [+]
Jan 18 22:56:51 <kakobrekla>	i wont do it
Jan 18 22:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	hehe many say that.
Jan 18 22:58:11 <kakobrekla>	too bad bitbet only allows for 1 year bets
Jan 18 23:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	hahaah what do the winner get, the girl ?
Jan 18 23:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	"i bet i won't marry. if i do, you can have her"
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Jan 18 23:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	sounds faustian.
Jan 18 23:00:55 <kakobrekla>	you can have her and the dog.
Jan 18 23:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	you keep the milk ?
Jan 18 23:01:11 <thestringpuller>	sorta like marriage. you know it doesn't end well statistically and do it anyway. << what about when it does?
Jan 18 23:01:11 <kakobrekla>	ofc ;)
Jan 18 23:01:23 <mircea_popescu>	some people win dice games too.
Jan 18 23:01:34 <thestringpuller>	so is it all just a statistic?
Jan 18 23:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	hence the word statistically.
Jan 18 23:01:49 <thestringpuller>	;)
Jan 18 23:01:55 <thestringpuller>	quantum popescu
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Jan 18 23:05:19 <smickles>	it's only statistically b/c we don't yet know the fundamental nature of reality
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Jan 18 23:05:56 <smickles>	we're probably close tho
Jan 18 23:06:05 <thestringpuller>	how about this for reality - http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3smh94/
Jan 18 23:07:21 <smickles>	i just love how, if you get into fine enough detail, particles, waves, atoms, none of those are practical models of reality
Jan 18 23:07:30 <smickles>	(or parts of it, rather)
Jan 18 23:07:55 <thestringpuller>	it's a good way to explain it for our current psychology
Jan 18 23:08:08 <thestringpuller>	it's kind of like that old story mimsy was the borgroves
Jan 18 23:09:29 <Bugpowder_>	yah
Jan 18 23:09:33 <Bugpowder_>	great story
Jan 18 23:11:29 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder_: surprises me more and more each day
Jan 18 23:11:54 <Bugpowder_>	mimsy?
Jan 18 23:11:58 <thestringpuller>	yea
Jan 18 23:12:04 <thestringpuller>	not many people have read it
Jan 18 23:12:06 <Bugpowder_>	read it when I was a kid
Jan 18 23:12:11 <thestringpuller>	heh
Jan 18 23:12:15 <thestringpuller>	before it was cool
Jan 18 23:12:18 <Bugpowder_>	in the science fiction hall of fame Volume I
Jan 18 23:12:25 <Bugpowder_>	edited by asimov
Jan 18 23:12:41 <Bugpowder_>	1929-1964
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Jan 18 23:16:15 <mircea_popescu>	it's not that old.
Jan 18 23:18:56 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/01/15/bitcoinstore-plans-to-take-on-the-world-of-online-electronics-retail-with-btc/
Jan 18 23:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. good for it.
Jan 18 23:19:36 <mircea_popescu>	not really news by now is it ?
Jan 18 23:20:27 <thestringpuller>	not really
Jan 18 23:21:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16443 @ 0.00067848 = 11.1562 BTC [-]
Jan 18 23:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137163.msg1463417#msg1463417
Jan 18 23:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 18 23:22:59 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 18 23:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137170
Jan 18 23:23:34 <mircea_popescu>	this went over well.
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Jan 18 23:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	Quote from: yochdog on January 16, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
Jan 18 23:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	I too will offer a large percentage for Mr Shavers.
Jan 18 23:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	I purchased bad in a very large amount and would be very generous with any recovery.
Jan 18 23:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	bah these people.
Jan 18 23:34:19 <mircea_popescu>	they know better than anyone, all the way to the wall.
Jan 18 23:35:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12076 @ 0.00067848 = 8.1933 BTC [-]
Jan 18 23:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3024 @ 0.00067423 = 2.0389 BTC [-]
Jan 18 23:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [+]
Jan 18 23:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.565 = 8.475 BTC [+]
Jan 18 23:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you around ?
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Jan 18 23:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.00068 = 18.122 BTC [+]
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Jan 18 23:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00068 = 4.624 BTC [+]
Jan 18 23:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067453 = 2.9146 BTC [-]
Jan 18 23:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4730 @ 0.00067423 = 3.1891 BTC [-]
Jan 19 00:06:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067977 = 2.9373 BTC [+]
Jan 19 00:06:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 629 @ 0.00068 = 0.4277 BTC [+]
Jan 19 00:22:20 <drug_motor>	http://tinysong.com/LD1b
Jan 19 00:24:56 <mod6>	gotta love the melvins
Jan 19 00:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	"We took multiple 20k+ refunds left and right without batting and eye lash because we believe in this project and we know we will be releasing our bASIC Bitcoin mining units sooner than everyone else, especially our good friends BFL."
Jan 19 00:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	is tom on drugs nao ?
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Jan 19 00:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00068 = 8.228 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 00:41:23 <Diablo-D3>	[02:15:36] <EskimoBob> Diablo-D3: any good news regarding DMC?
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Jan 19 00:41:24 <Diablo-D3>	nope
Jan 19 00:41:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006775 = 2.9275 BTC [-]
Jan 19 00:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 279 @ 0.00067725 = 0.189 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 00:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006775 = 2.9275 BTC [+]
Jan 19 00:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1479 @ 0.00067725 = 1.0017 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 00:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 19 00:49:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.39001, Best ask: 15.46999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 15.39001, 24 hour volume: 60508.16264848, 24 hour low: 15.25000, 24 hour high: 15.94390, 24 hour vwap: 15.58379
Jan 19 00:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	retracing ?
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Jan 19 01:00:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23494 @ 0.00067756 = 15.9186 BTC [+]
Jan 19 01:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4328 @ 0.00067926 = 2.9398 BTC [+]
Jan 19 01:20:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 250 @ 0.00129998 = 0.325 BTC [+]
Jan 19 01:22:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13741 @ 0.00067725 = 9.3061 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2759 @ 0.00067423 = 1.8602 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:33:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:34:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4137 @ 0.00067423 = 2.7893 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:34:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00067074 = 2.2134 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:34:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00066658 = 22.997 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:34:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19692 @ 0.00066529 = 13.1009 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:34:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00066385 = 17.3929 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:34:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15471 @ 0.00066362 = 10.2669 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 01:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066372 = 2.8679 BTC [+]
Jan 19 01:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6637 @ 0.00066362 = 4.4044 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:46:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00066336 = 1.4926 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9396 @ 0.00066319 = 6.2313 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11977 @ 0.00066319 = 7.943 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:49:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.000661 = 7.0727 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:53:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 1.1227 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 908 @ 0.00535392 = 4.8614 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 361 @ 0.00515816 = 1.8621 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00514107 = 6.6834 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00491501 = 4.915 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.004915 = 24.575 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00491 = 49.1 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0049 = 4.9 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 440 @ 0.00478099 = 2.1036 BTC [-]
Jan 19 01:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00474002 = 2.844 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00473693 = 2.3685 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:00:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00454709 = 5.0018 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00454708 = 18.1883 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00066073 = 6.7394 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:02:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00065983 = 14.3183 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:02:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1626 @ 0.0006589 = 1.0714 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3856 @ 0.00066073 = 2.5478 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 02:33:08 <Jewish_James>	can someone explain to me how the  winnings are calculated at bitbet?
Jan 19 02:33:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 500 @ 0.61599036 = 307.9952 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:33:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 615 @ 0.35798393 = 220.1601 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:33:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.29348232 = 293.4823 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:33:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.22898071 = 228.9807 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	Jewish_James the side that prevails splits up the bets of the side that lost.
Jan 19 02:34:24 <mircea_popescu>	proportionally by the time weights
Jan 19 02:35:54 <Jewish_James>	and the wager amount?
Jan 19 02:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean ?
Jan 19 02:43:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15144 @ 0.00066363 = 10.05 BTC [+]
Jan 19 02:43:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00065817 = 16.2568 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:43:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21982 @ 0.00065758 = 14.4549 BTC [-]
Jan 19 02:43:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13396 @ 0.00065697 = 8.8008 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 02:45:16 <Jewish_James>	most of the propositions  are very one-sided, so say you pick the favored choice , does everyone have to make equal sized bets, or could someone bet a huge amount and greatly reduce the winnings for everyone else if that side wins
Jan 19 02:47:02 <Jewish_James>	I guess a better question is how are  your winnings calculated?
Jan 19 02:49:34 <Jewish_James>	lol, i just asked my 1st question
Jan 19 02:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	...
Jan 19 02:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	look at one of the closed bets maybe ?
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Jan 19 02:53:08 <Namworld>	The earnings are proportional to bet amount multiplied by "weight". Usually the more time passes, the less weight bets have.
Jan 19 02:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.just-food.com/news/russia-bans-us-meat-imports-tested-for-ractopamin_id121499.aspx
Jan 19 02:57:49 <mircea_popescu>	that's low.
Jan 19 02:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	seriously ?! russia bans us meat ?
Jan 19 02:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	30 years ago...
Jan 19 03:18:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00067036 = 9.1504 BTC [+]
Jan 19 03:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.52 = 1.04 BTC [-]
Jan 19 03:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
Jan 19 03:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [-]
Jan 19 03:26:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.41 = 4.1 BTC [-]
Jan 19 03:31:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00067036 = 4.2568 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 03:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0048 = 4.8 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 03:46:11 <Jewish_James>	so im assuming the weight number a percentage? I'm trying to figure out  the payout formula including the 1% fee and preventing the house from gambling its own money which i assume it doesn't do
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Jan 19 03:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	is this the first time you're betting on anything ?
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Jan 19 03:53:38 <Jewish_James>	no, just doing other things and   i havent got the payouts calculated correctly
Jan 19 03:53:57 <Jewish_James>	ive only guessed the  formula twice
Jan 19 03:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00067036 = 5.9662 BTC [+]
Jan 19 03:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9552 @ 0.000657 = 6.2757 BTC [-]
Jan 19 03:58:08 <FabianB>	http://bitbet.us/bet/53/bitcoin-below-13-00-before-january-15th-2013/ <-- looks like you can loose even if you bet on the right side (last bet)
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Jan 19 04:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.000657 = 6.4386 BTC [-]
Jan 19 04:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB hmmm
Jan 19 04:18:55 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB the reason is this : site takes 1%
Jan 19 04:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	if you bet very late and the odds are very low you can end up paying a little like that.
Jan 19 04:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	say there's 100 btc to 1 btc
Jan 19 04:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	vig is thus 1.01 btc
Jan 19 04:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	if you put the 100th btc in late enough you might not actually win enough of the 1btc to make up for the 1% you'll be charged
Jan 19 04:20:41 <FabianB>	ic, its 1% of the bet size
Jan 19 04:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Jan 19 04:22:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9148 @ 0.000657 = 6.0102 BTC [-]
Jan 19 04:22:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4719 @ 0.00065697 = 3.1002 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 04:27:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000671 = 2.8994 BTC [+]
Jan 19 04:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00067109 = 6.6438 BTC [+]
Jan 19 04:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7879 @ 0.00067432 = 5.313 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 04:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [+]
Jan 19 04:37:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00065715 = 2.8257 BTC [-]
Jan 19 04:38:08 <pigeons>	people who use ruby never had computers with no disk space
Jan 19 04:38:25 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136953.msg1463866#msg1463866
Jan 19 04:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	she found it.
Jan 19 04:40:37 <pigeons>	well they really do think its a neat idea, and you won't be able to convince them otherwise until they turn 13 at least
Jan 19 04:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.0006576 = 4.4717 BTC [+]
Jan 19 04:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00066014 = 15.5133 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 04:56:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00066014 = 9.242 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 05:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00065715 = 0.0138 BTC [-]
Jan 19 05:13:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000657 = 1.314 BTC [-]
Jan 19 05:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2356 @ 0.00065697 = 1.5478 BTC [-]
Jan 19 05:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16916 @ 0.00065603 = 11.0974 BTC [-]
Jan 19 05:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 577 @ 0.00494481 = 2.8532 BTC [+]
Jan 19 05:28:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00065603 = 3.7722 BTC [-]
Jan 19 05:39:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065994 = 2.8516 BTC [+]
Jan 19 05:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5829 @ 0.00066014 = 3.848 BTC [+]
Jan 19 05:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065607 = 2.8349 BTC [-]
Jan 19 05:55:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.00065603 = 3.2664 BTC [-]
Jan 19 05:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00065589 = 3.6402 BTC [-]
Jan 19 06:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065864 = 2.846 BTC [+]
Jan 19 06:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7129 @ 0.00065867 = 4.6957 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 06:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons btw, were you able to verify the rota guy ?
Jan 19 06:11:57 <pigeons>	ah just saw it
Jan 19 06:13:09 <pigeons>	kinda busy, get back as soon as i can
Jan 19 06:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065595 = 2.8344 BTC [-]
Jan 19 06:22:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00065591 = 10.0682 BTC [-]
Jan 19 06:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	haven't seen jcpham either. yo!
Jan 19 06:26:22 <pigeons>	my computer is 2/3 between debian unstable to experimental downgrade to unstable. the version of libc i last installed bitcoin against is no longer on my machine
Jan 19 06:26:51 <pigeons>	does it verify for you mircea_popescu ?
Jan 19 06:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	i was yo!ing at jcpham
Jan 19 06:27:00 <pigeons>	yeah
Jan 19 06:27:01 <mircea_popescu>	omg i never tried
Jan 19 06:27:13 <pigeons>	ok well anybody out there
Jan 19 06:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	im a party not teh judge!
Jan 19 06:27:17 <pigeons>	in the peanut gallery
Jan 19 06:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	you're the oens getting paid
Jan 19 06:27:38 <pigeons>	im verifying this out in the public, openly
Jan 19 06:27:46 <pigeons>	interactive
Jan 19 06:28:37 <pigeons>	blockchain.info probably implements signing different than the reference client, i know armory does also
Jan 19 06:29:45 <pigeons>	lets see how far i get without a login
Jan 19 06:29:54 <pigeons>	1 click
Jan 19 06:30:35 <pigeons>	password: rogersmommaisahoyo
Jan 19 06:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00065589 = 8.2314 BTC [-]
Jan 19 06:32:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1714 @ 0.00065514 = 1.1229 BTC [-]
Jan 19 06:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	lolwut
Jan 19 06:32:39 <pigeons>	ooh now this is a smooth platform mircea_popescu
Jan 19 06:32:45 <pigeons>	blockchain.info
Jan 19 06:33:20 <pigeons>	integrated "satoshidice" button under "games" right in the wallet
Jan 19 06:33:42 <mircea_popescu>	what can possibly go wrong
Jan 19 06:33:58 <pigeons>	ok receive money -> other actions -> verify message
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Jan 19 06:35:37 <pigeons>	message has the wrong length, need a <cr> or something somewhere
Jan 19 06:36:00 <pigeons>	Error Verifying MessageSignature has the wrong length
Jan 19 06:36:30 <pigeons>	ah i see HBNlxhUDnEKbMl1p082ergE+ekRZINRmr12/DpZQy0sODhxGTE40HukSnPL+mQDDy8yg+bjQblA+NsJe
Jan 19 06:36:49 <pigeons>	ah
Jan 19 06:37:19 <pigeons>	but when you view the source of the double cherry reticulated lorry award for shitty html you get
Jan 19 06:37:23 <pigeons>	HBNlxhUDnEKbMl1p082ergE+ekRZINRmr12/DpZQy0sODhxGTE40HukSnPL+mQDDy8yg+bjQblA+NsJeI3XyoEs=
Jan 19 06:37:26 <pigeons>	one sec
Jan 19 06:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	eh ?
Jan 19 06:37:58 <pigeons>	Message Successfully Verified
Jan 19 06:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	i see the whole thing, ends in =
Jan 19 06:38:24 <pigeons>	yeah of course the site works with whatever browser you use
Jan 19 06:38:42 <pigeons>	ie6 is picky though
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Jan 19 06:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	you srsly on ie6 ?!
Jan 19 06:38:57 <pigeons>	no
Jan 19 06:39:05 <pigeons>	wtf
Jan 19 06:39:17 <pigeons>	anyway loks good
Jan 19 06:39:37 <pigeons>	let me review that original transaction confirm we are talking about the correct address in question
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Jan 19 06:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	you should prolly consult with teh other two too
Jan 19 06:44:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Jan 19 06:45:22 <pigeons>	yah
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Jan 19 06:49:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC
Jan 19 06:49:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
Jan 19 06:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00065514 = 5.6342 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 07:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	March may seem a long time away as we all have ASIC blue balls right now, but its really not that far away, and I salute and congratulate all of you who have had the testicular fortitude to stick it out with us because you my friends will receive the ultimate reward. Sure Avalon may get some units out before the Chinese new year but that is sure to be a very limited number. On the other hand our assembly house has an u
Jan 19 07:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	nlimited assembly capacity and as soon as the Chinese new year ends we will have 16,000 freshly fabbed and packaged ASIC chips and we will be assembling those PCB's at FULL CAPACITY !We will be shipping ALL CURRENT ORDERS IN THE MONTH OF MARCH AND WE STILL HAVE ROOM FOR MORE ORDERS SO Get IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN! I stake my personal name and word on that.
Jan 19 07:12:24 <mircea_popescu>	this dude is seriously entertaining.
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Jan 19 07:16:27 <Ukto>	wow
Jan 19 07:16:40 <Ukto>	thats the same guy that did icarus and lancelot?
Jan 19 07:16:41 <Ukto>	right?
Jan 19 07:17:48 <pigeons>	no nzhang is with avalon i thought, and this says "sure avalon may getsome out before us"
Jan 19 07:18:05 <pigeons>	sounds braggadacious enough to be inabfl
Jan 19 07:18:36 <pigeons>	WE STILL HAVE ROOM FOR MORE ORDERS SO Get IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN! I stake my personal name and word on that.
Jan 19 07:18:50 <pigeons>	well mircea_popescu, what's the correct answer?
Jan 19 07:19:57 <pigeons>	Ukto: wuts this: https://bitfunder.com/asset/Exchange.ESIF#tab_description
Jan 19 07:20:28 <Ukto>	Possibly questionable
Jan 19 07:20:31 <Ukto>	:P
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Jan 19 07:21:10 <Ukto>	he claims to have history
Jan 19 07:21:11 <pigeons>	that's like worse than "bankroll my poker game"
Jan 19 07:21:22 <Ukto>	of doing things for btc for ppl for a year
Jan 19 07:21:27 <Ukto>	But I havent heard of it
Jan 19 07:21:29 <pigeons>	cause at least in poker you control more variables
Jan 19 07:24:30 <pigeons>	WE STILL HAVE ROOM FOR MORE ORDERS SO Get IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN! I stake my personal name and word on that.
Jan 19 07:24:51 <pigeons>	i bet
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Jan 19 07:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12686 @ 0.00065514 = 8.3111 BTC [-]
Jan 19 07:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00065483 = 5.3041 BTC [-]
Jan 19 07:29:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065421 = 6.5421 BTC [-]
Jan 19 07:29:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0006542 = 17.3363 BTC [-]
Jan 19 07:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8514 @ 0.00065414 = 5.5693 BTC [-]
Jan 19 07:32:19 <FabianB_>	jurov: there?
Jan 19 07:39:43 <Ukto>	pigeons: agreed
Jan 19 07:39:50 <Ukto>	i sent him a msg that he needs to be alot more explicit
Jan 19 07:39:58 <Ukto>	i think thats why he ahsnt made forum posting
Jan 19 07:40:16 <Ukto>	and descriptive
Jan 19 07:41:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 70 @ 0.1435 = 10.045 BTC [-]
Jan 19 07:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons the impersonal name ? i dunno
Jan 19 07:47:13 <EskimoBob_afk>	so, the ASIC drama continues ?
Jan 19 07:47:54 <EskimoBob_afk>	at least we have pictures of empty boxes. Mmmm... asic box-pr0n
Jan 19 07:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	and the quote was from basic guy
Jan 19 07:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	cablepair
Jan 19 07:50:31 <Ukto>	i think bfl  started a "war" with their asic announce
Jan 19 07:50:38 <Ukto>	then the others swalled and followed suite
Jan 19 07:50:46 <Ukto>	and reality is none of them are actually ready
Jan 19 07:50:54 <Ukto>	or were anwhere near when they announced
Jan 19 07:51:00 <Ukto>	and inserted foot in mouth
Jan 19 07:51:15 <Ukto>	the closest we have see for sure, is asicminers chips
Jan 19 07:51:32 <Ukto>	at least that seems realistic, but as of this point I am not questioning friedcat
Jan 19 07:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4060 @ 0.00065591 = 2.663 BTC [+]
Jan 19 07:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24790 @ 0.00065624 = 16.2682 BTC [+]
Jan 19 07:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19386 @ 0.00065414 = 12.6812 BTC [-]
Jan 19 07:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4164 @ 0.0006539 = 2.7228 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 08:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1873 @ 0.0006539 = 1.2248 BTC [-]
Jan 19 08:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00065308 = 15.3474 BTC [-]
Jan 19 08:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 327 @ 0.00065279 = 0.2135 BTC [-]
Jan 19 08:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.0049475 = 12.3688 BTC [+]
Jan 19 08:19:21 <markedathome>	less than 24 hrs to go http://www.avalon-asics.com/
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Jan 19 08:27:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5841 @ 0.00065279 = 3.8129 BTC [-]
Jan 19 08:27:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00065193 = 5.0851 BTC [-]
Jan 19 08:27:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6709 @ 0.00065104 = 4.3678 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 08:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00065624 = 15.2248 BTC [+]
Jan 19 08:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00065624 = 4.9874 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 08:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25 @ 0.00065624 = 0.0164 BTC [+]
Jan 19 08:55:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 94 @ 0.0067 = 0.6298 BTC [-]
Jan 19 08:55:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 499 @ 0.0072 = 3.5928 BTC [+]
Jan 19 08:55:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 180 @ 0.0075 = 1.35 BTC [+]
Jan 19 08:56:59 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 19 08:57:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.30001, Best ask: 15.34759, Bid-ask spread: 0.04758, Last trade: 15.30001, 24 hour volume: 47116.38437355, 24 hour low: 15.25000, 24 hour high: 15.84304, 24 hour vwap: 15.54929
Jan 19 08:58:25 <EskimoBob_afk>	"Ukto | the closest we have see for sure, is asicminers chips " - did they ever post any test results after those chips where put on a PCB and actually used to mine?
Jan 19 08:59:54 <Ukto>	not sure
Jan 19 08:59:57 <Ukto>	i only 'saw' them in the pics
Jan 19 08:59:59 <Ukto>	a week ago
Jan 19 09:00:00 <Ukto>	or so
Jan 19 09:00:02 <Ukto>	when they arrived
Jan 19 09:00:13 <Bugpowder>	They could be anything
Jan 19 09:00:18 <Ukto>	yeah
Jan 19 09:00:21 <Ukto>	as i said, from what can be seen
Jan 19 09:00:24 <pigeons>	so one else even has that though
Jan 19 09:05:18 <Bugpowder>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:d0815ec0bd1b03121c4b135e2613d39aa80cd5ff766dffe906dc1b8b
Jan 19 09:05:18 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Jan 19 09:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	then again asicminer has the advantage that it could be run as a ponzi for quite a while.
Jan 19 09:06:31 <Bugpowder>	yea for years
Jan 19 09:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	they've discreetely skipped the "samples to community" part, the "we have the chips, they're hashing, just a few" story can be strung till july.
Jan 19 09:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	bfl has no such benefit.
Jan 19 09:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	but in all fairness, there's no actual proof this has anything akin to the color of truth. fact is we don't know.
Jan 19 09:12:35 <Bugpowder>	This guy just blew his wad on S.DICE
Jan 19 09:12:35 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/1GATbuCSWbWCueEL3W9z7EQyJACHjHYH8e?filter=0
Jan 19 09:12:49 <Bugpowder>	http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=100&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Jan 19 09:12:54 <Bugpowder>	Putting 400BTC bets down
Jan 19 09:12:57 <Bugpowder>	lost it all
Jan 19 09:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	aww
Jan 19 09:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	i bet .01 btc earlier
Jan 19 09:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	got totally scammed.
Jan 19 09:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00065624 = 2.8218 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:13:40 <Bugpowder>	the fee was .0355 wtf?!?
Jan 19 09:14:13 <Bugpowder>	its weird, S.DICE sells off a bit AFTER the whales show up?
Jan 19 09:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/147/mtgox-out-of-business-by-end-of-year/
Jan 19 09:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	how about that.
Jan 19 09:20:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00065174 = 11.7965 BTC [-]
Jan 19 09:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 991 @ 0.00065104 = 0.6452 BTC [-]
Jan 19 09:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065103 = 6.5103 BTC [-]
Jan 19 09:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6009 @ 0.00065102 = 3.912 BTC [-]
Jan 19 09:26:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19535 @ 0.00065624 = 12.8196 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:26:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1965 @ 0.00065704 = 1.2911 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 09:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 89 @ 0.00525532 = 0.4677 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 19 09:41:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.33000, Best ask: 15.34760, Bid-ask spread: 0.01760, Last trade: 15.34760, 24 hour volume: 47649.20971090, 24 hour low: 15.25000, 24 hour high: 15.84304, 24 hour vwap: 15.54152
Jan 19 09:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.0757365 * 15.54152
Jan 19 09:41:59 <gribble>	1.17706032948
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Jan 19 09:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26091 @ 0.00065102 = 16.9858 BTC [-]
Jan 19 09:45:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1069 @ 0.00065096 = 0.6959 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 09:58:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065698 = 2.8388 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14135 @ 0.00065704 = 9.2873 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:58:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17298 @ 0.00065867 = 11.3937 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:58:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3636 @ 0.00065889 = 2.3957 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:58:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28521 @ 0.00066014 = 18.8279 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17971 @ 0.00066199 = 11.8966 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28374 @ 0.00066244 = 18.7961 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:58:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00066291 = 15.8767 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:58:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23283 @ 0.00066334 = 15.4445 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:59:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00066418 = 11.3575 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7183 @ 0.00066443 = 4.7726 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 665 @ 0.00067432 = 0.4484 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3063 @ 0.00067482 = 2.067 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4562 @ 0.00067482 = 3.0785 BTC [+]
Jan 19 09:59:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9738 @ 0.00067483 = 6.5715 BTC [+]
Jan 19 10:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22775 @ 0.00067483 = 15.3693 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 10:14:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.8959 BTC [+]
Jan 19 10:15:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [+]
Jan 19 10:16:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 320 @ 0.0075 = 2.4 BTC [+]
Jan 19 10:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065343 = 2.8235 BTC [-]
Jan 19 10:21:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10711 @ 0.00065334 = 6.9979 BTC [-]
Jan 19 10:21:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 65 @ 0.0076 = 0.494 BTC [+]
Jan 19 10:22:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 7 @ 0.0076 = 0.0532 BTC [+]
Jan 19 10:23:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 18 @ 0.33 = 5.94 BTC [+]
Jan 19 10:23:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.338 = 5.07 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 10:41:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00066963 = 4.6874 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 10:46:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00066963 = 1.741 BTC [+]
Jan 19 10:46:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00066617 = 4.53 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 10:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067465 = 2.9152 BTC [+]
Jan 19 10:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8560 @ 0.00067483 = 5.7765 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 11:05:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067388 = 2.9118 BTC [-]
Jan 19 11:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6929 @ 0.00067363 = 4.6676 BTC [-]
Jan 19 11:08:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 5 @ 0.0076 = 0.038 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 11:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23071 @ 0.00067363 = 15.5413 BTC [-]
Jan 19 11:09:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2029 @ 0.00066617 = 1.3517 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 11:17:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.339 = 2.373 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 11:21:04 <FabianB_>	jurov: please see pm
Jan 19 11:23:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067472 = 2.9155 BTC [+]
Jan 19 11:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18379 @ 0.00067483 = 12.4027 BTC [+]
Jan 19 11:23:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0095 = 0.019 BTC [+]
Jan 19 11:25:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 15 @ 0.0096 = 0.144 BTC [+]
Jan 19 11:26:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0096 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 11:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066719 = 2.8829 BTC [-]
Jan 19 11:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11579 @ 0.00066717 = 7.7252 BTC [-]
Jan 19 11:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4421 @ 0.00066717 = 2.9496 BTC [-]
Jan 19 11:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 582 @ 0.00066617 = 0.3877 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 11:52:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00066406 = 12.3183 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 12:07:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.54 = 1.62 BTC [+]
Jan 19 12:07:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.57 = 3.99 BTC [+]
Jan 19 12:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066323 = 6.6323 BTC [-]
Jan 19 12:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2347 @ 0.00066406 = 1.5585 BTC [+]
Jan 19 12:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1303 @ 0.00066741 = 0.8696 BTC [+]
Jan 19 12:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.57 = 1.71 BTC [+]
Jan 19 12:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21477 @ 0.00066741 = 14.334 BTC [+]
Jan 19 12:13:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16289 @ 0.00065334 = 10.6423 BTC [-]
Jan 19 12:13:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2061 @ 0.00064974 = 1.3391 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 12:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00065032 = 3.4142 BTC [+]
Jan 19 12:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4332 @ 0.00064974 = 2.8147 BTC [-]
Jan 19 12:37:50 <smickles>	burnside_afk: Usagi is claiming to have accidentally sent me some coins from his btctc account. Will you prove ownership of the sending addresses to me? (he should have sent you all the required infos already)
Jan 19 12:38:54 <smickles>	everybody else: burnside is the operator of btct.co, right?
Jan 19 12:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3824 @ 0.00525531 = 20.0963 BTC [-]
Jan 19 12:44:19 <pigeons>	yep
Jan 19 12:44:29 <smickles>	thx pigeons :)
Jan 19 12:45:51 <smickles>	Oh, burnside_afk, I forgot to ask that you also confirm that it was usagi who sent that btc via your withdrawal system
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Jan 19 12:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4107 @ 0.00064974 = 2.6685 BTC [-]
Jan 19 12:47:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00064907 = 4.3488 BTC [-]
Jan 19 12:47:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00064786 = 4.2111 BTC [-]
Jan 19 12:47:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1093 @ 0.0006476 = 0.7078 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 12:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00066741 = 17.3527 BTC [+]
Jan 19 13:05:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00066741 = 6.2737 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 13:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00066272 = 1.9882 BTC [-]
Jan 19 13:12:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6126 @ 0.0006476 = 3.9672 BTC [-]
Jan 19 13:12:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5202 @ 0.00064572 = 3.359 BTC [-]
Jan 19 13:12:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00064456 = 5.1887 BTC [-]
Jan 19 13:12:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00064317 = 1.8652 BTC [-]
Jan 19 13:12:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1248 @ 0.00064224 = 0.8015 BTC [-]
Jan 19 13:15:50 <pigeons>	WE STILL HAVE ROOM FOR MORE ORDERS SO Get IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN! I stake my personal name and word on that.
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Jan 19 13:32:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8752 @ 0.00064224 = 5.6209 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 13:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00064139 = 7.1515 BTC [-]
Jan 19 13:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00064121 = 8.1754 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 14:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064121 = 4.8732 BTC [-]
Jan 19 14:06:12 <thestringpuller>	smickles: what's the stats on usagi btw?
Jan 19 14:06:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 250 @ 0.00129998 = 0.325 BTC [+]
Jan 19 14:07:49 <pigeons>	insane, delusional, last I heard
Jan 19 14:07:52 *	copumpkin is now known as randomguy123
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Jan 19 14:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3722 @ 0.00064169 = 2.3884 BTC [+]
Jan 19 14:10:45 <thestringpuller>	he's supposed to be liquidating and paying shareholders
Jan 19 14:10:50 <thestringpuller>	which doesn't seem to be happening
Jan 19 14:11:47 <smickles>	thestringpuller: well, he sent me some btc, and then said that it wasn't suppoese to be sent
Jan 19 14:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6433 @ 0.00064461 = 4.1468 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 14:23:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00513446 = 1.5403 BTC [-]
Jan 19 14:23:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2350 @ 0.00513445 = 12.066 BTC [-]
Jan 19 14:23:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00512818 = 7.9487 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 14:27:18 <pigeons>	usagi wants to auction his matthew n wright bets
Jan 19 14:27:30 <EskimoBob_afk>	any ideas how to remove all that useless crap like "G+, Images, Maps, Play, YouTube, News" form google menu, when logged in to google?
Jan 19 14:27:37 <pigeons>	how does his asset even own that
Jan 19 14:28:19 <smickles>	EskimoBob_afk: i'd guess that there is a greasemonkey script out ther
Jan 19 14:28:26 <smickles>	*there
Jan 19 14:28:51 <EskimoBob_afk>	greasemonkey, yes, that's the one. thank you
Jan 19 14:34:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27555 @ 0.00064906 = 17.8848 BTC [+]
Jan 19 14:34:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00065641 = 1.4133 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 14:35:15 <pigeons>	Ukto: wot wut https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.IPPT
Jan 19 14:35:38 <pigeons>	listing pirate passthrough is so 2012
Jan 19 14:36:33 <smickles>	bluugh?
Jan 19 14:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10928 @ 0.00065641 = 7.1732 BTC [+]
Jan 19 14:47:54 <crashoveride>	hey i made a bet on bitbet...how long before it shows up on the confirmed bet page?
Jan 19 14:54:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10373 @ 0.00065393 = 6.7832 BTC [-]
Jan 19 14:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22945 @ 0.00064461 = 14.7906 BTC [-]
Jan 19 14:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23650 @ 0.00064352 = 15.2192 BTC [-]
Jan 19 14:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22132 @ 0.00064121 = 14.1913 BTC [-]
Jan 19 14:55:09 <thestringpuller>	why is anyone listing pirate passthrus?
Jan 19 14:55:19 <thestringpuller>	Ukto you fool
Jan 19 15:02:26 <thestringpuller>	there is a gold bar in Abu Dhabi...
Jan 19 15:02:31 <thestringpuller>	there is a gold bar atm*
Jan 19 15:03:50 <markedathome>	isn't it there so that it can be finalised/closed?
Jan 19 15:03:57 <markedathome>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96793.0;all
Jan 19 15:07:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6243 @ 0.00065641 = 4.098 BTC [+]
Jan 19 15:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00065709 = 7.0309 BTC [+]
Jan 19 15:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 378 @ 0.0006599 = 0.2494 BTC [+]
Jan 19 15:18:47 <smickles>	crashoveride: kakobrekla might have something to do with the approval process
Jan 19 15:19:52 <crashoveride>	thxs but i found out it went through after all, wasn't looking in the right place
Jan 19 15:23:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00065976 = 11.9087 BTC [-]
Jan 19 15:27:38 <thestringpuller>	mr smickles
Jan 19 15:32:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 2 @ 0.02655147 = 0.0531 BTC [-]
Jan 19 15:33:05 <smickles>	thestringpuller: How are you today?
Jan 19 15:33:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 2 @ 0.04663013 = 0.0933 BTC [-]
Jan 19 15:33:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 2 @ 0.07460227 = 0.1492 BTC [-]
Jan 19 15:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1 @ 0.00983557 BTC [-]
Jan 19 15:41:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 2 @ 0.05275158 = 0.1055 BTC [-]
Jan 19 15:41:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 2 @ 0.04449838 = 0.089 BTC [-]
Jan 19 15:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00065976 = 9.6985 BTC [-]
Jan 19 15:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 812 @ 0.0006599 = 0.5358 BTC [+]
Jan 19 15:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6321 @ 0.0006599 = 4.1712 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 16:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00065462 = 13.2888 BTC [-]
Jan 19 16:12:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00065132 = 5.6014 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 16:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00065132 = 2.0191 BTC [-]
Jan 19 16:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00064352 = 4.022 BTC [-]
Jan 19 16:17:24 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 19 16:17:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.54738, Best ask: 15.60999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06261, Last trade: 15.54738, 24 hour volume: 38320.24249333, 24 hour low: 15.25000, 24 hour high: 15.77272, 24 hour vwap: 15.47870
Jan 19 16:18:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00064352 = 2.8958 BTC [-]
Jan 19 16:24:34 <kakobrekla>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iQpD9LolO-k
Jan 19 16:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064352 = 2.1236 BTC [-]
Jan 19 16:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00064121 = 1.5389 BTC [-]
Jan 19 16:25:16 <kakobrekla>	this moron appears frequently
Jan 19 16:28:13 <mod6>	lol
Jan 19 16:28:55 <kakobrekla>	i think he just admited to the whole world he is dumb?
Jan 19 16:32:21 <mod6>	yeah, very
Jan 19 16:32:43 <mod6>	guy has some fucking rocks in his head
Jan 19 16:33:52 <thestringpuller>	mod6
Jan 19 16:33:55 <thestringpuller>	we have work to do
Jan 19 16:33:59 <thestringpuller>	as the isley's would say
Jan 19 16:34:16 <mod6>	oh man, don't i know it
Jan 19 16:34:22 <thestringpuller>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08tYrBCgXlU
Jan 19 16:35:32 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: alex jones?
Jan 19 16:35:43 *	mod6 slow jams
Jan 19 16:35:44 <kakobrekla>	yeah apparently
Jan 19 16:35:51 <kakobrekla>	i dont know the guy really
Jan 19 16:36:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.008 = 0.048 BTC [-]
Jan 19 16:36:01 <thestringpuller>	i watched his "report" on the end of the world
Jan 19 16:36:20 <thestringpuller>	which was more of him thinking society is going to slip into a techno-elite ruled dystopian
Jan 19 16:37:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 150 @ 0.008 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Jan 19 16:37:55 <mod6>	lol, maybe it will ;>
Jan 19 16:38:12 <thestringpuller>	what is this snow crash?
Jan 19 16:38:26 <mod6>	no idea
Jan 19 16:38:52 <thestringpuller>	i hate cyberpunk because they always go into some matrix-like metaphor
Jan 19 16:39:41 <thestringpuller>	mod6 we got work to do!!!!
Jan 19 16:40:54 <mod6>	yessir, aight, gimme like 20 and we'll get started
Jan 19 16:41:41 <thestringpuller>	procrastination until the end
Jan 19 16:42:21 <mod6>	awe
Jan 19 16:42:34 <mod6>	back in a sec.
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Jan 19 16:44:52 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 19 16:44:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.55905, Best ask: 15.60999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05094, Last trade: 15.55453, 24 hour volume: 37382.57327749, 24 hour low: 15.25000, 24 hour high: 15.77272, 24 hour vwap: 15.47626
Jan 19 16:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1852 @ 0.00525531 = 9.7328 BTC [+]
Jan 19 17:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.0006599 = 1.2538 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 17:20:48 <mod6>	ok
Jan 19 17:20:53 <mod6>	bak :}
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Jan 19 17:41:14 <mod6>	splitsville
Jan 19 17:41:35 <thestringpuller>	i was in another window
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Jan 19 18:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00065955 = 5.6062 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 18:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00065955 = 8.3763 BTC [-]
Jan 19 18:24:20 *	luke-jr_ is now known as Luke-Jr
Jan 19 18:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00065302 = 1.2407 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 18:30:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00512819 BTC [-]
Jan 19 18:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2421 @ 0.00065302 = 1.581 BTC [-]
Jan 19 18:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29329 @ 0.00065287 = 19.148 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 18:32:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16471 @ 0.00065287 = 10.7534 BTC [-]
Jan 19 18:32:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20131 @ 0.00065163 = 13.118 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 18:36:30 <thestringpuller>	super quiet tonight
Jan 19 18:38:14 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Jan 19 18:38:15 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 56 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> ;;calc 0.0757365 * 15.54152
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Jan 19 18:40:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00065163 = 8.9925 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 18:47:19 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 19 18:47:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00454708 / 0.00508095 / 0.00547355 (57825 shares, 293.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00476383 / 0.00598999 (2024332 shares, 9,643.59 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00374268 / 0.00598999 (11142285 shares, 41,702.02 BTC)
Jan 19 18:48:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 18:52:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065953 = 2.8498 BTC [+]
Jan 19 18:52:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10342 @ 0.00065955 = 6.8211 BTC [+]
Jan 19 18:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7115 @ 0.0006599 = 4.6952 BTC [+]
Jan 19 18:55:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006518 = 2.8164 BTC [-]
Jan 19 18:55:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24579 @ 0.00065163 = 16.0164 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 18:57:43 <jurov>	ow, what a stupid bug
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Jan 19 18:58:47 <jurov>	i mixed up classes, users called parent instead of the wrapper with proper advisory locks
Jan 19 18:58:55 <jurov>	breakage ensues
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Jan 19 19:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065972 = 2.8507 BTC [+]
Jan 19 19:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 474 @ 0.0006599 = 0.3128 BTC [+]
Jan 19 19:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14021 @ 0.00066149 = 9.2748 BTC [+]
Jan 19 19:17:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 510 @ 0.00066183 = 0.3375 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 19:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065205 = 2.8175 BTC [-]
Jan 19 19:32:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.000652 = 5.0856 BTC [-]
Jan 19 19:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 613 @ 0.00065163 = 0.3994 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 19:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24777 @ 0.00065163 = 16.1454 BTC [-]
Jan 19 19:36:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27273 @ 0.00065145 = 17.767 BTC [-]
Jan 19 19:37:40 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 19 19:37:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.51001, Best ask: 15.57999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 15.59897, 24 hour volume: 34730.26551408, 24 hour low: 15.25000, 24 hour high: 15.77272, 24 hour vwap: 15.45613
Jan 19 19:38:00 <jurov>	;;bc,conver eur
Jan 19 19:38:01 <gribble>	Error: "bc,conver" is not a valid command.
Jan 19 19:38:03 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Jan 19 19:38:04 <gribble>	1 BTC = 15.59897 U.S. dollars = 11.7109384 Euros
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Jan 19 19:43:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.4387 = 0.8774 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 19:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11085 @ 0.00065145 = 7.2213 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 19:54:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0096 BTC [+]
Jan 19 19:56:59 <Ukto>	pigeons: its terras relisting of ippt
Jan 19 19:57:17 <Ukto>	from glbse thats supposedly "insured"
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Jan 19 19:57:21 <Ukto>	and someone will be paying out on them
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Jan 19 19:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18458 @ 0.00064843 = 11.9687 BTC [-]
Jan 19 19:57:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 834 @ 0.00064829 = 0.5407 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 20:10:32 <dust-otc>	GIPPT is a huge joke
Jan 19 20:11:24 <thestringpuller>	hahaha
Jan 19 20:12:23 <dust-otc>	"The depositors will return the backings on the 9th of September and the 28th of September respectively after these two payment all of the GIPPT shares will have been paid back 1 BTC."
Jan 19 20:13:56 <dust-otc>	GIPPT had over a month to pay its "insurance" before GLBSE even shut down
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Jan 19 20:18:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 199 @ 0.00512819 = 1.0205 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00512818 = 1.282 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2357 @ 0.00511395 = 12.0536 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:20:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00064829 = 5.0567 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 20:27:40 <Chilca>	Guys, do you know if the DEPOSIT is manually, I mean a human person need to assign it to the correct account?
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Jan 19 20:29:15 <error4733>	where who when how ?
Jan 19 20:33:49 <thestringpuller>	Chilca: for MPEX?
Jan 19 20:34:01 <Chilca>	thestringpuller: Yes.
Jan 19 20:34:17 <thestringpuller>	yea mircea processes them manually
Jan 19 20:34:45 <jurov>	Chilca, I can facilitate small deposits quickly
Jan 19 20:34:50 <jurov>	for 0.1BTC fee
Jan 19 20:35:23 <Chilca>	No thanks. I'll wait until mircea manually add it.
Jan 19 20:36:38 <jurov>	fyi, i can do withdrawals similarly
Jan 19 20:37:23 <jurov>	'night!
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Jan 19 20:44:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116 @ 0.00064829 = 0.0752 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:44:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35056 @ 0.0006479 = 22.7128 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2308 @ 0.00064778 = 1.4951 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00507063 = 0.0101 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:46:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00507063 = 7.0989 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:46:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00507063 = 0.0507 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:46:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00507063 = 0.5071 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:47:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 398 @ 0.00507063 = 2.0181 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 20:59:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00500931 = 1.5028 BTC [-]
Jan 19 20:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 198 @ 0.005 = 0.99 BTC [-]
Jan 19 21:00:29 <Namworld>	Anyone selling S.BVPS?
Jan 19 21:01:45 <thestringpuller>	Isn't S.BVPS getting delisted?
Jan 19 21:03:04 <Namworld>	Yes, so?
Jan 19 21:03:07 <mod6>	yes on 2013.02.15
Jan 19 21:03:18 <Namworld>	It will stick around.
Jan 19 21:03:19 <mod6>	iirc
Jan 19 21:04:00 <Namworld>	We'll try to rebuy all shares tho as long as we can afford and it's not overpriced.
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Jan 19 21:05:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00064778 = 14.8018 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 21:10:25 <thestringpuller>	what happens when it gets delisted?
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Jan 19 21:18:21 <Namworld>	We have chosen BTCT.co
Jan 19 21:18:30 <Namworld>	Seemed like the best alternative.
Jan 19 21:18:58 <thestringpuller>	mircea wouldn't cut you any slack?
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Jan 19 21:19:32 <Namworld>	No, took too much time to get a new contract going. Plus rg had already breached his contract and disclosed his gpg key.
Jan 19 21:20:05 <Namworld>	So it kind of made any new contract/transfer signed by rg valueless.
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Jan 19 21:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 200 @ 0.00129998 = 0.26 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 21:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5799 = 2.8995 BTC [+]
Jan 19 21:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.59 = 2.95 BTC [+]
Jan 19 21:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.6 = 4.2 BTC [+]
Jan 19 21:49:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 3 @ 0.10315575 = 0.3095 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 22:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.62 = 4.96 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 22:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16515 @ 0.00065061 = 10.7448 BTC [+]
Jan 19 22:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7835 @ 0.00065485 = 5.1307 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 22:25:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 22:31:12 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu I SUMMON THEE FROM THE DEPTHS
Jan 19 22:31:26 <mircea_popescu>	ya well you're late.
Jan 19 22:31:40 <thestringpuller>	heh
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Jan 19 22:33:09 <thestringpuller>	how much for mpex historical data?
Jan 19 22:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
Jan 19 22:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00064778 = 10.6884 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 22:44:04 <thestringpuller>	.01 btc sound good?
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Jan 19 22:48:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Jan 19 22:50:44 <Namworld>	I don't know, but I just got .01 btc... It does sound good.
Jan 19 22:51:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00494 = 0.741 BTC [-]
Jan 19 22:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00493999 = 2.717 BTC [-]
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Jan 19 22:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	i just wrote like... the best short story ever.
Jan 19 22:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	way better than bitdust.
Jan 19 22:52:06 <Namworld>	I won't have credits for it.
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Jan 19 22:55:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3184 @ 0.00507063 = 16.1449 BTC [+]
Jan 19 22:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00514651 = 2.5733 BTC [+]
Jan 19 22:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1316 @ 0.00525531 = 6.916 BTC [+]
Jan 19 22:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3008 @ 0.00525531 = 15.808 BTC [+]
Jan 19 22:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 992 @ 0.00525532 = 5.2133 BTC [+]
Jan 19 22:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00525532 = 2.1021 BTC [+]
Jan 19 22:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 19 22:57:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.57000, Best ask: 15.61499, Bid-ask spread: 0.04499, Last trade: 15.57000, 24 hour volume: 20902.91243534, 24 hour low: 15.27001, 24 hour high: 15.61500, 24 hour vwap: 15.47657
Jan 19 22:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 19 22:57:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00454708 / 0.00500362 / 0.00535392 (55566 shares, 278.03 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00477018 / 0.00598999 (1986599 shares, 9,476.44 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.0037446 / 0.00598999 (11157599 shares, 41,780.77 BTC)
Jan 19 22:57:30 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 19 22:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064121 / 0.00065882 / 0.00068 (2098853 shares, 1,382.77 BTC), 7D: 0.00062772 / 0.0006624 / 0.00068 (11115137 shares, 7,362.68 BTC), 30D: 0.000612 / 0.00064431 / 0.00068 (40468984 shares, 26,074.72 BTC)
Jan 19 22:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	financial stability in btc!
Jan 19 22:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.00525532 = 1.2613 BTC [+]
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Jan 19 23:06:12 <thestringpuller>	i wanna read your short story mircea_popescu
Jan 19 23:06:37 <mircea_popescu>	so go ahead
Jan 19 23:06:50 <thestringpuller>	where is it?
Jan 19 23:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8395 @ 0.00064778 = 5.4381 BTC [-]
Jan 19 23:07:30 <thestringpuller>	who the fuck is this inaba?
Jan 19 23:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	on my blog lol.
Jan 19 23:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	also, milk http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135865433992.jpg
Jan 19 23:08:26 <thestringpuller>	she has weird nipples
Jan 19 23:08:32 <thestringpuller>	I shall nickname her nips
Jan 19 23:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	she does.
Jan 19 23:15:19 <thestringpuller>	when will bitbet have bookies
Jan 19 23:15:23 <thestringpuller>	I want to bet on all da sports
Jan 19 23:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	so what's keeping you ?
Jan 19 23:18:10 <Namworld>	Would be better with automated bets for all events
Jan 19 23:18:22 <Chilca>	where is your blog?
Jan 19 23:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca http://polimedia.us/trilema/
Jan 19 23:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld what's keeping someone from making a bot ?
Jan 19 23:19:59 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: Thx
Jan 19 23:20:31 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca it's a general/personal blog but it has some dedicated bitcoin/mpex/rota categories.
Jan 19 23:20:39 <Namworld>	eh, I don't know, what purpose would it serve to the creator?
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Jan 19 23:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	"Hey! Java still rules and will exist long after c# is gone..."
Jan 19 23:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	bejesus the forum... hard to believe.
Jan 19 23:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld is it supposed to be useful or not useful, this thing you propose ?
Jan 19 23:27:22 <thestringpuller>	automated bets
Jan 19 23:27:45 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Jan 19 23:27:54 <thestringpuller>	the betting line is set p2p almost
Jan 19 23:28:01 <thestringpuller>	so there is no need for automated bets
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Jan 19 23:28:29 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: the odds are based on the total pot for a bet right?
Jan 19 23:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	well there's no explicit odds
Jan 19 23:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	but you can calculate momentary odds as yes / no
Jan 19 23:30:01 <thestringpuller>	yea that's what I was asking
Jan 19 23:30:08 <thestringpuller>	actually makes it so the bookie can't rig the odds..
Jan 19 23:30:22 <thestringpuller>	it's as ingenius as the futures on the network difficulty...
Jan 19 23:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	;)
Jan 19 23:34:03 <thestringpuller>	funny
Jan 19 23:34:27 <thestringpuller>	the simplest ideas are the most powerful when implemented correctly: "fundamentals are the key to winning the game, not showmanship"
Jan 19 23:36:29 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
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Jan 19 23:39:38 <thestringpuller>	"you know you've done things right, when people think you haven't done anything at all"
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Jan 19 23:52:45 <Namworld>	mircea: If done by bitbet for bitbet, it's supposed to help in that bets for sporting events are readily available.
Jan 19 23:53:20 <Namworld>	Plus they can probably be awarded without any further work if automated.
Jan 19 23:53:26 <Namworld>	Don't they have feeds for that?
Jan 19 23:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065465 = 2.8287 BTC [+]
Jan 19 23:53:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7279 @ 0.00065485 = 4.7667 BTC [+]
Jan 19 23:57:19 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld and if done by a third party, it allows them to make whatever money is t obe made in that market.
Jan 19 23:58:44 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: then why not better organize the bets as bitbet grows...
Jan 19 23:58:50 <thestringpuller>	even reddit has subreddits...
Jan 19 23:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	there are categories atm, and a search. but in general... yea
Jan 19 23:59:14 <mircea_popescu>	just have to figure out the optimal approach
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Jan 20 00:00:32 <thestringpuller>	sports bets will likely account for a large part of bitbets bottom line
Jan 20 00:01:12 <thestringpuller>	since it circumvents the legality of sports gambling in many places
Jan 20 00:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	so far bottom line is bfl
Jan 20 00:02:21 <thestringpuller>	for now but that's not replicable...wait until baseball season
Jan 20 00:02:52 <thestringpuller>	it's also going to be pretty awesome if BFL fails to deliver, such bad press...
Jan 20 00:02:58 <thestringpuller>	(given the bet that is)
Jan 20 00:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	i guess
Jan 20 00:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	even money so far on it. actually no, looky, yes prevails. lol.
Jan 20 00:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	some people stand to make a pretty penny.
Jan 20 00:06:53 <thestringpuller>	why has no one secured legitimate funding and business planning for ASIC development?
Jan 20 00:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7247 @ 0.00065485 = 4.7457 BTC [+]
Jan 20 00:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00065711 = 9.7909 BTC [+]
Jan 20 00:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9051 @ 0.00065797 = 5.9553 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 00:10:00 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller probably because the scammers active have managed to suck up most of the capital available for that.
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Jan 20 00:10:53 <thestringpuller>	yet VC's have sunk 4.5 million into various btc businesses...
Jan 20 00:11:05 <thestringpuller>	that capital being external to the btc system
Jan 20 00:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	people use the term vc too liberqally.
Jan 20 00:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	coinbase had vc funding.
Jan 20 00:11:21 <thestringpuller>	bitinstant
Jan 20 00:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	everyone else had angel funding (mtgox, bitinstant etc)
Jan 20 00:11:33 <thestringpuller>	bitpay is on the list now (even though that was angel funding)
Jan 20 00:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	the rest, (basic scl) had who knows what
Jan 20 00:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	who signed bitinstant ?
Jan 20 00:11:48 <thestringpuller>	but that capital was in fiat not btc
Jan 20 00:12:41 <thestringpuller>	it doesn't say
Jan 20 00:13:58 <thestringpuller>	i guess my question is why have Coinbase and others successfully acquired funding and formed what seems to be "profitable businesses" yet these hardware manufacturers make AAPL's first office (Job's adoptive mom's garage) look like a better option for hardware fabrication...
Jan 20 00:14:24 <thestringpuller>	and who the fuck is this inaba?
Jan 20 00:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	if it doesn't say it's either angel capital or pr (ie, fake)
Jan 20 00:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	inaba is some bfl spokesperson. tho he's never been oficially credentialed afaik (unlike mpoe-pr)
Jan 20 00:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	so basically, he's mostly just another forum loudmouth.
Jan 20 00:18:26 <thestringpuller>	the forum is trash...jesus
Jan 20 00:18:31 <thestringpuller>	what the fuck am I reading
Jan 20 00:19:04 <thestringpuller>	you should raise the girls' pay rate
Jan 20 00:19:09 <thestringpuller>	to deal with this nonsense
Jan 20 00:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/18/kim-dotcom-fight-internet-freedom
Jan 20 00:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	incredible how huge this guy is
Jan 20 00:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	check the pic
Jan 20 00:20:16 <thestringpuller>	"Before his arrest in New Zealand, he was the world's number one-ranked Modern Warfare 3 player out of more than 15 million online players."
Jan 20 00:20:29 <mod6>	lol
Jan 20 00:20:51 <thestringpuller>	i'm surprised that hasn't shown up on TIL on reddit
Jan 20 00:23:04 <mod6>	people are pretty srs about their video games
Jan 20 00:23:13 <mod6>	have you ever seen these bro's play golden tee?
Jan 20 00:23:38 <thestringpuller>	yea
Jan 20 00:23:42 <thestringpuller>	play it like real golf and shit
Jan 20 00:24:17 <mod6>	haha
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Jan 20 00:25:33 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: so...btc-zon [done] ; btc-betting [done] ; btc-lottery [done]
Jan 20 00:25:36 <thestringpuller>	what's next?
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Jan 20 00:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Jan 20 00:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	o, desktop AA battery. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/since-you-boys-are-printing-tanks-now/
Jan 20 00:28:11 <thestringpuller>	mpoe-pr: " there's so much to do and so few people capable of doing it in Bitcoin that if your plan makes sense and you seem even remotely competent everyone else who is competent will breathe a sigh of relief."
Jan 20 00:28:22 <thestringpuller>	deja-vu...
Jan 20 00:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	myea
Jan 20 00:29:42 <thestringpuller>	I built a drone already...
Jan 20 00:29:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064782 = 2.7992 BTC [-]
Jan 20 00:29:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3197 @ 0.00064778 = 2.071 BTC [-]
Jan 20 00:29:48 <thestringpuller>	it's part of my plan to take over detroit
Jan 20 00:29:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8482 @ 0.00064565 = 5.4764 BTC [-]
Jan 20 00:30:01 <thestringpuller>	I just need to arm it with something
Jan 20 00:30:06 <thestringpuller>	Then I can be Obama.
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Jan 20 00:55:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5136 @ 0.00064565 = 3.3161 BTC [-]
Jan 20 00:55:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11029 @ 0.00064519 = 7.1158 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 01:36:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00501039 = 5.0104 BTC [-]
Jan 20 01:36:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00501038 = 14.5301 BTC [-]
Jan 20 01:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 990 @ 0.00493999 = 4.8906 BTC [-]
Jan 20 01:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12171 @ 0.00064519 = 7.8526 BTC [-]
Jan 20 02:07:44 <leotreasure>	http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/jan/13/investments-stock-picking
Jan 20 02:08:04 <leotreasure>	cat wins at investing
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Jan 20 02:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	leotreasure the "modern money theory" idiots are getting pretty despreate by now eh ?
Jan 20 02:49:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064125 = 3.1421 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 03:09:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00064125 = 5.5468 BTC [-]
Jan 20 03:09:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00063997 = 0.16 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 03:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.0048811 = 8.5419 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 03:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17496 @ 0.0006418 = 11.2289 BTC [+]
Jan 20 03:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1504 @ 0.00064029 = 0.963 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 04:06:25 <leotreasure>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4SnUObMd0o
Jan 20 04:06:38 <leotreasure>	i never laughed so uncontrollably
Jan 20 04:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Fb1wYODTY
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Jan 20 04:10:32 <leotreasure>	lol!
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Jan 20 04:23:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.006 = 0.048 BTC [-]
Jan 20 04:23:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.006 = 0.012 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 04:25:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064189 = 5.3277 BTC [+]
Jan 20 04:27:55 <gru2>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idDCom9fHpM&t=1m40s
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Jan 20 04:46:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6132 @ 0.00064029 = 3.9263 BTC [-]
Jan 20 04:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00063997 = 15.3273 BTC [-]
Jan 20 04:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26950 @ 0.00063985 = 17.244 BTC [-]
Jan 20 04:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1779 @ 0.00481977 = 8.5744 BTC [-]
Jan 20 04:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00492685 = 3.9415 BTC [+]
Jan 20 04:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4346 @ 0.00525494 = 22.838 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 05:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00063899 = 2.4921 BTC [-]
Jan 20 05:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00063886 = 5.6859 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 05:13:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23601 @ 0.00064189 = 15.1492 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 05:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5899 @ 0.00064189 = 3.7865 BTC [+]
Jan 20 05:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5051 @ 0.00064342 = 3.2499 BTC [+]
Jan 20 05:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137149.0 i can't discern if troll or ?
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Jan 20 05:39:42 <Schadenfreude>	Seen his site? Most definitely troll
Jan 20 05:40:17 <Schadenfreude>	I can tell from the pixels and from the 'pirate@40' on the guys hat
Jan 20 05:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	so stupid could be honest
Jan 20 05:42:19 <Schadenfreude>	More important is, will your exchange host his IPO?
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Jan 20 05:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	o, absolutely.
Jan 20 05:44:19 <mircea_popescu>	i hope he picks mpex.
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Jan 20 05:50:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5716 @ 0.00063886 = 3.6517 BTC [-]
Jan 20 05:50:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7864 @ 0.00063853 = 5.0214 BTC [-]
Jan 20 05:50:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00063842 = 5.4904 BTC [-]
Jan 20 05:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4870 @ 0.00063778 = 3.106 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 05:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14030 @ 0.00063778 = 8.9481 BTC [-]
Jan 20 05:54:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7773 @ 0.00063757 = 4.9558 BTC [-]
Jan 20 05:54:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00063738 = 6.9474 BTC [-]
Jan 20 05:54:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10597 @ 0.00063733 = 6.7538 BTC [-]
Jan 20 05:56:26 <EskimoBob_afk>	wow, this site is probably designed by the same retard who designed Major Puppets silly bazaar mpex
Jan 20 05:56:32 <EskimoBob_afk>	amazing
Jan 20 05:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11178 @ 0.00064342 = 7.1921 BTC [+]
Jan 20 05:57:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5239 @ 0.00064688 = 3.389 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 06:36:04 <Jackmaninov>	Anyone else having issue logging into Bitfunder? I keep getting "Google 2-Factor incorrect or not provided" despite putting in my code...
Jan 20 06:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	clock on your device off ?
Jan 20 06:37:06 <Jackmaninov>	doesn't seem to be
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Jan 20 06:48:26 <Ukto>	hmm
Jan 20 06:50:05 <Ukto>	works fine here
Jan 20 06:50:18 <Ukto>	servers are ntp synced properly
Jan 20 06:51:25 <Jackmaninov>	I was just able to log in; don't think I was having a time sync issue on my phone... Hmm
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Jan 20 07:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2861 @ 0.00063733 = 1.8234 BTC [-]
Jan 20 07:12:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00063731 = 13.3835 BTC [-]
Jan 20 07:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20036 @ 0.00063594 = 12.7417 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 07:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6164 @ 0.00063594 = 3.9199 BTC [-]
Jan 20 07:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5586 @ 0.00063543 = 3.5495 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 07:30:34 <mircea_popescu>	jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137342.msg1465719#msg1465719
Jan 20 07:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	must troll moar.
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Jan 20 07:32:16 <jurov>	hi, i fail to see a point?
Jan 20 07:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Jan 20 07:33:25 <jurov>	if it's about mpoe-pr, i already have chosen this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136953.msg1463866#msg1463866
Jan 20 07:33:46 <jurov>	it's a bit longer, but perfect otherwise.
Jan 20 07:33:49 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 20 07:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, i see it.
Jan 20 07:34:20 <jurov>	clear context, opinion about "securities", contempt for idiots
Jan 20 07:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	not to mention she's kicking a kid.
Jan 20 07:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	which is almost as bad as a puppy
Jan 20 07:38:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 700 @ 0.01 = 7 BTC [+]
Jan 20 07:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27ugSKW4-QQ
Jan 20 07:40:41 <Ukto>	>,> *kicks a puppy to the side*
Jan 20 07:40:51 *	Ukto continues walking down the street whistling
Jan 20 07:41:04 <jurov>	someone should list porn studio on btct. or boob enhancement
Jan 20 07:41:30 <jurov>	PAMELA.BOND
Jan 20 07:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	jurov actually there's a large contingent of people who are doing dubious porn
Jan 20 07:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	they're going to be on btc sooner or later.
Jan 20 07:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	since it solves their only problem, ie payments.
Jan 20 07:42:21 <jurov>	yea i know about girlsgonebitcoin... but they need to institutionalize
Jan 20 07:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	a, tghat's bs, will never work.
Jan 20 07:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	nobody who has btc pays for porn, let's get real.
Jan 20 07:43:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://rule34.paheal.net/wiki/Notes that sort of stuff.
Jan 20 07:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	PAYPAL ISSUE
Jan 20 07:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	So paypal have now closed ALL of my accounts. Including ones that arent even associated with paheal in any way. This is very unfortunate as it effects every aspect of the running of the site. We recieve our advertising money via paypal and pay the server bills via paypal too.
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Jan 20 07:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9114 @ 0.00063543 = 5.7913 BTC [-]
Jan 20 07:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00063413 = 1.3951 BTC [-]
Jan 20 07:50:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12901 @ 0.00063288 = 8.1648 BTC [-]
Jan 20 07:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5885 @ 0.00063222 = 3.7206 BTC [-]
Jan 20 07:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 266 @ 0.00525494 = 1.3978 BTC [+]
Jan 20 07:53:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1134 @ 0.00525495 = 5.9591 BTC [+]
Jan 20 07:57:43 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: your site, or are you quoting?
Jan 20 08:00:36 <markedathome>	booo --- avalon-asics.com is now into -1 / -1 / -1 / -33...
Jan 20 08:00:53 <Ukto>	jurov: LOL
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Jan 20 08:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome from that url
Jan 20 08:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	awww, avalon didn't deliver either ? teh shock
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Jan 20 08:11:29 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Jan 20 08:11:31 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 217281 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 446 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 9 hours, 46 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2932431.99782366 | Estimated Percent Change: -9.75881667347
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Jan 20 08:17:06 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: they have shipped 1 to jgarzik. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137534
Jan 20 08:17:51 <markedathome>	and is now finding the substrata gif amusing
Jan 20 08:18:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol ya, right.
Jan 20 08:18:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20964 @ 0.00064293 = 13.4784 BTC [+]
Jan 20 08:18:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1036 @ 0.00064688 = 0.6702 BTC [+]
Jan 20 08:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	because that's exactly how you ship something like that.
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Jan 20 08:22:54 <markedathome>	now we need tracking number to jgarzik so that we can see a countdown to delivery, then a countdown to unboxing vid, countdown to powerup and mining vid, then countdown to teardown and post of BOM
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Jan 20 08:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 20 08:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	i'll just watch the th figure.
Jan 20 08:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	which, in fairness, IS up a little
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Jan 20 08:40:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9425 @ 0.00064688 = 6.0968 BTC [+]
Jan 20 08:40:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5825 @ 0.00064749 = 3.7716 BTC [+]
Jan 20 08:47:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00518191 = 7.2547 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 09:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00518191 = 10.882 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 09:29:36 <thestringpuller>	SCIENCE NEVER FAILS
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Jan 20 09:36:39 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I SUMMON THEE
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Jan 20 09:38:12 <jurov>	thestringpuller, you should also properly banish him in the end of seance
Jan 20 09:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	and wear a funny hat
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Jan 20 09:42:52 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: https://wealthcycles.com/features/denial-of-service-attacks-legal-for-high-frequency-traders-retail-orders-ignored
Jan 20 09:46:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14362 @ 0.00064489 = 9.2619 BTC [-]
Jan 20 09:48:39 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Jan 20 09:48:48 <mircea_popescu>	a little longer than 50ms on mpex, but that's the general idea.
Jan 20 09:53:29 <jurov>	yeah..."Your order could not be canceled at this time"
Jan 20 09:53:44 <jurov>	when i saw that response from mpex i was like wat?
Jan 20 09:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5401 @ 0.00064749 = 3.4971 BTC [+]
Jan 20 09:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
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Jan 20 10:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00064749 = 8.7411 BTC [+]
Jan 20 10:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135869456354.gif << count the beads. it's called hashing.
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Jan 20 10:17:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25102 @ 0.00064621 = 16.2212 BTC [-]
Jan 20 10:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9298 @ 0.0006458 = 6.0046 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 10:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1740 @ 0.0006458 = 1.1237 BTC [-]
Jan 20 10:30:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00064376 = 10.2036 BTC [-]
Jan 20 10:32:39 <thestringpuller>	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/01/coder-charged-for-gambling-software/
Jan 20 10:32:55 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 20 10:32:57 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00481977 / 0.00513077 / 0.00525532 (43896 shares, 225.22 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00477603 / 0.00598999 (1968947 shares, 9,403.76 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00374694 / 0.00598999 (11171304 shares, 41,858.22 BTC)
Jan 20 10:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00063314 = 11.08 BTC [-]
Jan 20 10:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6715 @ 0.00063222 = 4.2454 BTC [-]
Jan 20 10:37:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1385 @ 0.00063178 = 0.875 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 10:58:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5665 @ 0.00063178 = 3.579 BTC [-]
Jan 20 10:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00063131 = 10.7007 BTC [-]
Jan 20 10:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00062783 = 0.5964 BTC [-]
Jan 20 10:58:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4535 @ 0.00062776 = 2.8469 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 11:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.00100009 = 2.0002 BTC [-]
Jan 20 11:02:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 8000 @ 0.00100008 = 8.0006 BTC [-]
Jan 20 11:03:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00063865 = 15.9663 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 11:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5465 @ 0.00062776 = 3.4307 BTC [-]
Jan 20 11:09:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0006277 = 1.2554 BTC [-]
Jan 20 11:09:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00062636 = 1.6285 BTC [-]
Jan 20 11:09:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5535 @ 0.00062626 = 3.4663 BTC [-]
Jan 20 11:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062626 = 2.0667 BTC [-]
Jan 20 11:13:33 <jurov>	uf, quite a dump
Jan 20 11:13:59 <thestringpuller>	Back down to normal ipo
Jan 20 11:14:08 <thestringpuller>	to first tier ipo*
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Jan 20 11:17:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0085 = 0.017 BTC [-]
Jan 20 11:20:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.00505276 = 15.6636 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 11:34:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1188 @ 0.00062626 = 0.744 BTC [-]
Jan 20 11:36:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0051797 = 3.1078 BTC [+]
Jan 20 11:38:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4027 @ 0.00062626 = 2.5219 BTC [-]
Jan 20 11:38:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 323 @ 0.000626 = 0.2022 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 11:41:01 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 20 11:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00481977 / 0.0051263 / 0.00525532 (47596 shares, 243.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00477662 / 0.00598999 (1971963 shares, 9,419.32 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00374737 / 0.00598999 (11175004 shares, 41,876.99 BTC)
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Jan 20 11:57:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00063123 = 13.8871 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 12:02:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33565 @ 0.000626 = 21.0117 BTC [-]
Jan 20 12:02:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2513 @ 0.00062544 = 1.5717 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 12:26:11 <FabianB>	Ukto: you there?
Jan 20 12:27:47 <FabianB>	Ukto: nevermind
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Jan 20 12:33:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1837 @ 0.00062544 = 1.1489 BTC [-]
Jan 20 12:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00062297 = 6.4789 BTC [-]
Jan 20 12:33:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19924 @ 0.00062068 = 12.3664 BTC [-]
Jan 20 12:36:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.4189 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 12:42:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063095 = 2.7263 BTC [+]
Jan 20 12:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00063123 = 10.9203 BTC [+]
Jan 20 12:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00063239 = 5.3753 BTC [+]
Jan 20 12:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30415 @ 0.00063865 = 19.4245 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 12:43:53 <EskimoBob_afk>	jurov: it is surprising that Major Puppets Olid Exchange got hyped that high
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Jan 20 12:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063539 = 2.7455 BTC [-]
Jan 20 12:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20579 @ 0.00063563 = 13.0806 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 12:57:36 <jcpham>	hi guys my son has been sick for a few days
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Jan 20 12:57:56 <jcpham>	the case was discussed and iassume handled
Jan 20 12:58:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062907 = 2.7182 BTC [-]
Jan 20 12:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46500 @ 0.00062892 = 29.2448 BTC [-]
Jan 20 12:58:22 <EskimoBob_afk>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137534.40 Avalon ASIC Ships?
Jan 20 12:58:29 <jcpham>	i'll be at the computer for about 5-6 hours and reachable
Jan 20 12:58:30 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob_afk the hater returns
Jan 20 12:58:42 <thestringpuller>	with his marvelous market depth of less than 100 btcs
Jan 20 12:58:44 <thestringpuller>	mwahaha
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Jan 20 13:14:34 <assbot>	 sup bitches'
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Jan 20 13:39:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
Jan 20 13:40:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
Jan 20 13:40:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
Jan 20 13:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.1 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 13:47:05 <jurov>	 <assbot>  sup bitches' ... lol someone figured the assapi entrypoint?
Jan 20 13:47:20 <jurov>	!ticker mp s.mpoe
Jan 20 13:47:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062068 / 0.00064355 / 0.00066183 (1525055 shares, 981.45 BTC), 7D: 0.00062068 / 0.00066069 / 0.00068 (11958837 shares, 7,901.16 BTC), 30D: 0.000612 / 0.00064448 / 0.00068 (40838665 shares, 26,319.74 BTC)
Jan 20 13:47:39 <jurov>	still better than overhyped mugs
Jan 20 13:49:42 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Jan 20 13:49:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.68000, Best ask: 15.69000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 15.68000, 24 hour volume: 26331.65039030, 24 hour low: 15.48512, 24 hour high: 15.89000, 24 hour vwap: 15.69493
Jan 20 13:49:48 <Diablo-D3>	we're stuck again arent we
Jan 20 13:49:54 <EskimoBob_afk>	jurov: nice brown nose, you got there.
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Jan 20 13:53:00 <EskimoBob_afk>	Diablo-D3: "[Announcement] Avalon ASIC Ships" effect?
Jan 20 13:53:20 <Diablo-D3>	dunno
Jan 20 13:53:25 <Diablo-D3>	avalon hasnt even shipped yet have they?
Jan 20 13:53:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11110 @ 0.0006227 = 6.9182 BTC [-]
Jan 20 13:53:49 <EskimoBob_afk>	Diablo-D3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137534.0
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Jan 20 13:54:14 <EskimoBob_afk>	no idea, I do not care that much
Jan 20 13:54:41 <EskimoBob_afk>	only how it will affect the price of btc and ltc
Jan 20 13:55:09 <Tritonio>	Did BFL push the date back further?
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Jan 20 13:55:48 <EskimoBob_afk>	"we also arranged to ship a unit to the Bitcoin Foundation, whom is going to do a demo" - LOL
Jan 20 13:56:24 <EskimoBob_afk>	only thing those assholes are going to do is mine like mad and then sell the rig to some poor noob
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Jan 20 14:00:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
Jan 20 14:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.58 = 5.8 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 14:06:22 <Diablo-D3>	heh, friedcat is shipping a unit to me
Jan 20 14:06:25 <Diablo-D3>	so
Jan 20 14:06:35 <Diablo-D3>	at least we can prove those exist, even if the other three are failures
Jan 20 14:07:05 <EskimoBob_afk>	Diablo-D3: when is that going to happen?
Jan 20 14:07:15 <Diablo-D3>	should be early feb
Jan 20 14:07:32 <Diablo-D3>	the chips have already been sent off to the board fabber to be mounted along with the rest of the components
Jan 20 14:07:49 <Diablo-D3>	like, first week of feb, maybe second
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Jan 20 14:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.58 = 5.22 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 14:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
Jan 20 14:24:58 <kakobrekla>	so there money to take here then http://bitbet.us/bet/34/an-asic-unit-from-either-bfl-avalon-or/
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Jan 20 14:29:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00497115 = 0.7457 BTC [-]
Jan 20 14:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00497114 = 5.9654 BTC [-]
Jan 20 14:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 694 @ 0.00492404 = 3.4173 BTC [-]
Jan 20 14:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 656 @ 0.004901 = 3.2151 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 14:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00516344 = 1.549 BTC [+]
Jan 20 14:38:07 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: didn't avalon just ship?
Jan 20 14:39:01 <markedathome>	they say they've shipped, to jgarzik and bitcoin foundation. just needs one of them to confirm. Unknown how many other orders have been shipped.
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Jan 20 14:40:08 <markedathome>	I'd like to know if fizzisist is doing an asic
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Jan 20 14:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00516344 = 5.938 BTC [+]
Jan 20 14:56:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 534 @ 0.0051819 = 2.7671 BTC [+]
Jan 20 14:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 216 @ 0.00522625 = 1.1289 BTC [+]
Jan 20 14:57:34 <kakobrekla>	markedathome no
Jan 20 14:57:42 <kakobrekla>	two others are.
Jan 20 14:59:15 <markedathome>	a shame, seems to be a decent board maker, along with nghzang. ztex a close third.
Jan 20 14:59:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90 @ 0.0006227 = 0.056 BTC [-]
Jan 20 14:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062101 = 2.6834 BTC [-]
Jan 20 14:59:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 744 @ 0.00062068 = 0.4618 BTC [-]
Jan 20 14:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12598 @ 0.00061858 = 7.7929 BTC [-]
Jan 20 14:59:57 <kakobrekla>	as you said, boardmaker.
Jan 20 15:01:14 <Bugpowder>	man... wish i had some free capital for those S.MPOE shares
Jan 20 15:03:12 <kakobrekla>	lol my father just called, "son, 10k eur. buy. now."
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Jan 20 15:05:33 <Bugpowder>	y?
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Jan 20 15:07:30 <kakobrekla>	he liquidated some stocks and wants to put some something in b.
Jan 20 15:07:37 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 20 15:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00481977 / 0.00510583 / 0.00525532 (44472 shares, 227.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00477805 / 0.00598999 (1962226 shares, 9,375.62 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00374799 / 0.00598999 (11176625 shares, 41,889.98 BTC)
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Jan 20 15:12:00 <Bugpowder>	yea
Jan 20 15:12:04 <Bugpowder>	I am getting a lot of interest from friends
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Jan 20 15:12:12 <Bugpowder>	and friends of friends
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Jan 20 15:14:07 <Bugpowder>	getting to be a significant amount of coins people want me to manage.
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Jan 20 15:18:55 <Bugpowder>	is it real?
Jan 20 15:18:55 <Bugpowder>	http://puu.sh/1Q8qQ
Jan 20 15:20:16 <thestringpuller>	nice
Jan 20 15:20:18 <thestringpuller>	congrats
Jan 20 15:21:13 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: you reccommend buying mpoe?
Jan 20 15:21:43 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 20 15:21:45 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder would you buy some S.MPOE for me?
Jan 20 15:21:49 <thestringpuller>	I'll send you btc
Jan 20 15:21:52 <Bugpowder>	I have no fundssss
Jan 20 15:21:54 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 20 15:21:54 <thestringpuller>	push them to smickles
Jan 20 15:21:54 <mircea_popescu>	looks fake to me
Jan 20 15:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	i can see because of some pixels
Jan 20 15:22:10 <thestringpuller>	mircea popescu give bugpowder money on my behalf so he can buy me some mpoe
Jan 20 15:22:20 <Bugpowder>	why?
Jan 20 15:22:23 <mircea_popescu>	just deposit lol
Jan 20 15:22:24 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 20 15:22:34 <Bugpowder>	actually I've been meaning to ask about margin
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Jan 20 15:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham heya
Jan 20 15:23:19 <Bugpowder>	gang's all here now
Jan 20 15:23:23 <Bugpowder>	hi smickles
Jan 20 15:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham no, not handled. you still have to say hi, and then enter your judgement
Jan 20 15:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	Tritonio not afaik ?
Jan 20 15:23:59 <thestringpuller>	smickles is havin' internets trouble
Jan 20 15:25:09 <markedathome>	oh dear me, this has been a weird weekend.  There appears to be a certain delta flight with an inflight entertainment in the form of a model, a webcam, and an egg.
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Jan 20 15:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> lol my father just called, "son, 10k eur. buy. now." << haha cool
Jan 20 15:25:42 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 20 15:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00481977 / 0.00510583 / 0.00525532 (44472 shares, 227.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00477811 / 0.00598999 (1959497 shares, 9,362.70 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00374799 / 0.00598999 (11176625 shares, 41,889.98 BTC)
Jan 20 15:26:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.00522625 = 18.8145 BTC [+]
Jan 20 15:26:52 <Bugpowder>	hopefully many people are saying that this weekend
Jan 20 15:27:01 <Bugpowder>	and monday the price goes to $30
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Jan 20 15:29:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Jan 20 15:37:18 <dub>	I herd asic are shipping, time to panic sell
Jan 20 15:39:20 <Bugpowder>	if people are that stupid, they deserve to lose their coins
Jan 20 15:40:31 <mircea_popescu>	not their coins anyway :D
Jan 20 15:41:04 <Bugpowder>	So does avalon open the second round of orders before anyone actually gets their delivery ???
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Jan 20 15:41:08 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 20 15:41:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.64105, Best ask: 15.72499, Bid-ask spread: 0.08394, Last trade: 15.64105, 24 hour volume: 25222.05976602, 24 hour low: 15.51000, 24 hour high: 15.89000, 24 hour vwap: 15.70664
Jan 20 15:41:13 <thestringpuller>	oh shit
Jan 20 15:41:15 <thestringpuller>	price on the move
Jan 20 15:41:26 <thestringpuller>	PANIC BUY
Jan 20 15:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.579 BTC [-]
Jan 20 15:42:11 <mircea_popescu>	lmao jeez you guise
Jan 20 15:44:36 <Bugpowder>	more like price stuck in a boring channel for literally HOURS
Jan 20 15:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00062068 = 1.9862 BTC [+]
Jan 20 15:44:51 <mircea_popescu>	^^.
Jan 20 15:45:07 <dub>	SELL GODDAMNIT
Jan 20 15:45:22 <thestringpuller>	mpoe price is on the move too
Jan 20 15:45:37 <thestringpuller>	someone must have been dumping stock bought at .0003
Jan 20 15:45:55 <Bugpowder>	S.MPOE is the hing to buy
Jan 20 15:45:58 <Bugpowder>	rite now
Jan 20 15:46:00 <Bugpowder>	and S.DICE
Jan 20 15:46:15 <Bugpowder>	also S.BBET
Jan 20 15:46:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5752 @ 0.00061858 = 3.5581 BTC [-]
Jan 20 15:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	what, it's low ?
Jan 20 15:46:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00061824 = 2.3184 BTC [-]
Jan 20 15:46:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7556 @ 0.00061614 = 4.6556 BTC [-]
Jan 20 15:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, 61.
Jan 20 15:46:54 <Bugpowder>	S.MPOE
Jan 20 15:46:59 <Bugpowder>	HISTORIC LOWS
Jan 20 15:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	hehe historic lows are  0.00002858 my fine feathered friend.
Jan 20 15:47:21 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 20 15:47:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.66001, Best ask: 15.74900, Bid-ask spread: 0.08899, Last trade: 15.74900, 24 hour volume: 25213.40463004, 24 hour low: 15.51000, 24 hour high: 15.89000, 24 hour vwap: 15.70686
Jan 20 15:51:32 <thestringpuller>	http://bitbet.us/bet/1/usagi-ftw/ - that's a funny bet
Jan 20 15:52:19 <thestringpuller>	people are likely dumping inventory to possibly sell options or something
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Jan 20 15:55:47 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 17 + 19
Jan 20 15:55:47 <gribble>	36
Jan 20 15:55:54 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 20 15:56:02 <Bugpowder>	someone is gonna figure that one out
Jan 20 15:56:34 <Bugpowder>	JUST one 10,000 BTC buy is all I ask lord
Jan 20 15:56:44 <dub>	fuck you
Jan 20 15:56:53 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 16.44
Jan 20 15:56:55 <gribble>	There are currently 9850.6022 bitcoins offered at or under 16.44 USD, worth 157653.528739 USD in total.
Jan 20 15:57:01 <dub>	sell down to $10 nao
Jan 20 15:57:15 <dub>	or baby jesus masturbates a kitten
Jan 20 15:58:14 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 15.27
Jan 20 15:58:16 <gribble>	There are currently 10108.685 bitcoins demanded at or over 15.27 USD, worth 156379.594459 USD in total.
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Jan 20 16:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1624 @ 0.00062068 = 1.008 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 16:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00062068 = 6.2378 BTC [+]
Jan 20 16:16:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC
Jan 20 16:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol dub you wants to buy moar ?
Jan 20 16:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	i'll sell you lukejr coins, 25 a pop.
Jan 20 16:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 20 16:20:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.75000, Best ask: 15.76990, Bid-ask spread: 0.01990, Last trade: 15.71001, 24 hour volume: 25039.11971422, 24 hour low: 15.51000, 24 hour high: 15.89000, 24 hour vwap: 15.70869
Jan 20 16:20:19 <mircea_popescu>	jaysus.
Jan 20 16:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	it may pop any minute
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Jan 20 16:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12044 @ 0.00061614 = 7.4208 BTC [-]
Jan 20 16:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 906 @ 0.00061534 = 0.5575 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 16:45:54 <pigeons>	WE STILL HAVE ROOM FOR MORE ORDERS SO Get IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN! I stake my personal name and word on that.
Jan 20 16:46:37 <Azelphur>	does that mean we get to call ourselves pigeons if you don't deliver
Jan 20 16:46:50 <pigeons>	my personal name
Jan 20 16:46:57 <Azelphur>	bob?
Jan 20 16:47:00 <pigeons>	pigeons is my public name
Jan 20 16:47:03 <pigeons>	yes bob
Jan 20 16:47:08 <Azelphur>	:D
Jan 20 16:47:37 <pigeons>	and no, not if i don't deliver
Jan 20 16:47:46 <pigeons>	if we don't have room for more orders
Jan 20 16:47:51 <Azelphur>	ah :p
Jan 20 16:52:20 *	jurov has a room for moar orders, too
Jan 20 16:52:48 <jurov>	coinbr finally passed a test by correctly processing simultaneous new orders with same mpsic/price
Jan 20 16:53:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00062068 = 8.255 BTC [+]
Jan 20 16:54:53 <FabianB>	jurov: :) approve my latest fund so i can put more orders :)
Jan 20 16:57:00 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons o you found it huh ?
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Jan 20 16:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.55 = 4.95 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 16:58:41 <jurov>	FabianB, it waits till mircea accepts it
Jan 20 16:59:11 <jurov>	i rather won't do fractional reserve. not even for friends ;)
Jan 20 17:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	this is unacceptable.
Jan 20 17:07:15 <jurov>	FabianB, go on.
Jan 20 17:07:35 <jurov>	unacceptable?
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Jan 20 17:07:59 <thestringpuller>	lets go falcons
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Jan 20 17:08:29 <thestringpuller>	jurov doesn't unit test
Jan 20 17:08:33 <thestringpuller>	don't trust his code
Jan 20 17:09:06 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: accept my bet
Jan 20 17:09:16 <FabianB>	jurov: didn't know you already forwarded it to mpex
Jan 20 17:09:30 <jurov>	thestringpusher, why do you think?
Jan 20 17:09:36 <mircea_popescu>	jurov wordplay hehe
Jan 20 17:10:41 <thestringpuller>	I like that
Jan 20 17:10:44 <thestringpuller>	thestringpuhser
Jan 20 17:10:49 <thestringpuller>	thestringpusher*
Jan 20 17:11:05 <thestringpuller>	when I have money to hire a sock puppet that is what he/she'll be called
Jan 20 17:11:14 <jurov>	i do unit test. just left some unlikely scenarios for later, cause i'm lazy.
Jan 20 17:11:28 <thestringpuller>	nigga puh-lease
Jan 20 17:11:28 <jurov>	now they become more and more likely
Jan 20 17:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	whoa fdp got like 10%
Jan 20 17:12:46 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: yeah, no-one expected that
Jan 20 17:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	srsly.
Jan 20 17:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	cdu getting butchered was kinda in the books
Jan 20 17:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	and the pirates did jack shit huh
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Jan 20 17:14:40 <kakobrekla>	thestringpuller i dont approve bets.
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Jan 20 17:20:21 <FabianB>	pirates seem to have high volatility in elections
Jan 20 17:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	0 seats tho, i don't imagine they expected that.
Jan 20 17:25:50 <FabianB>	so http://bitbet.us/bet/36/liberals-fdp-5-in-lower-saxony-state/ can be resolved
Jan 20 17:26:56 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
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Jan 20 17:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 178 @ 0.00062068 = 0.1105 BTC [+]
Jan 20 17:31:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00062084 = 1.2417 BTC [+]
Jan 20 17:31:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00062385 = 1.4349 BTC [+]
Jan 20 17:31:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7368 @ 0.0006246 = 4.6021 BTC [+]
Jan 20 17:31:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2854 @ 0.00062622 = 1.7872 BTC [+]
Jan 20 17:32:18 <markedathome>	an alleged avalon asic image https://www.devda.ch/node/12
Jan 20 17:32:47 <mircea_popescu>	ya was here earlier
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Jan 20 17:34:54 <thestringpuller>	6
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Jan 20 17:35:44 <thestringpuller>	;;google falcons score
Jan 20 17:35:46 <gribble>	Atlanta Falcons Football Clubhouse - ESPN: <http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/atl/atlanta-falcons>; Atlanta Falcons on Yahoo! Sports - News, Scores, Standings ...: <http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/atl>; Official Website of the Atlanta Falcons Football Club: <http://www.atlantafalcons.com/>
Jan 20 17:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 563 @ 0.018824 = 10.5979 BTC [+]
Jan 20 17:35:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.03626506 = 36.2651 BTC [-]
Jan 20 17:36:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.06205928 = 62.0593 BTC [-]
Jan 20 17:36:25 <Anduck>	markedathome: source?
Jan 20 17:36:28 <thestringpuller>	boom
Jan 20 17:36:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.14987357 = 149.8736 BTC [-]
Jan 20 17:36:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1000 @ 0.09597135 = 95.9714 BTC [-]
Jan 20 17:36:35 <thestringpuller>	mpoe dumped an put into options
Jan 20 17:36:37 <thestringpuller>	mwahahahahah
Jan 20 17:36:43 <thestringpuller>	i iz wizard
Jan 20 17:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	these look like sales
Jan 20 17:37:32 <thestringpuller>	to the bot no?
Jan 20 17:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Jan 20 17:38:17 <markedathome>	Anduck: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/16xyv6/first_avalon_asic_picture/
Jan 20 17:38:33 <Anduck>	ok ty
Jan 20 17:38:42 <thestringpuller>	ya someone is writing contracts to the bot from inventory the dumped from mpoe
Jan 20 17:38:46 <thestringpuller>	it's brilliant really
Jan 20 17:38:58 <thestringpuller>	my how I love MPEX, it was like yesterday you were just a baby
Jan 20 17:39:53 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Jan 20 17:40:07 <thestringpuller>	a e i?
Jan 20 17:40:09 <thestringpuller>	y?
Jan 20 17:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	oh i see
Jan 20 17:40:45 <thestringpuller>	do you really?
Jan 20 17:40:48 <thestringpuller>	or are you actually blind?
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Jan 20 17:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135872157621.jpg
Jan 20 17:41:41 <thestringpuller>	people must like posting themselves naked on your blog
Jan 20 17:41:42 <thestringpuller>	haha
Jan 20 17:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6286 @ 0.00062622 = 3.9364 BTC [+]
Jan 20 17:43:07 <thestringpuller>	the price go back up though because so many people want to buy
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Jan 20 17:45:16 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> smickles is havin' internets trouble << more like bitvps is
Jan 20 17:45:39 <jurov>	thestringpuller, not yet. the mpoe order book still looks scary
Jan 20 17:46:05 <Anduck>	that pic is not taken off avalon miner
Jan 20 17:46:06 <Anduck>	fyi
Jan 20 17:46:18 <Anduck>	smickles
Jan 20 17:46:19 <Anduck>	got my pm?
Jan 20 17:46:29 <smickles>	yes, just saw it
Jan 20 17:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck i called fake first!
Jan 20 17:47:09 <Anduck>	aww
Jan 20 17:47:10 <Anduck>	didnt see
Jan 20 17:47:15 <Anduck>	but its fake.
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Jan 20 17:47:19 <Anduck>	you're right
Jan 20 17:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	Jan 20 22:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	looks fake to me
Jan 20 17:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	Jan 20 22:21:50 <thestringpuller>	push them to smickles
Jan 20 17:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	Jan 20 22:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	i can see because of some pixels
Jan 20 17:47:49 *	jurov has just bet "No" about that
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Jan 20 17:48:18 <jurov>	nice odds: http://bitbet.us/bet/34/
Jan 20 17:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;later bugpowder what did you want to ask about margin ? i missed it at the time, luckily someone mentioned avalon fake pic and i had to dig through logs.
Jan 20 17:49:07 <gribble>	Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "bugpowder" in it.  Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
Jan 20 17:49:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00062622 = 16.0312 BTC [+]
Jan 20 17:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder what did you want to ask about margin ? i missed it at the time, luckily someone mentioned avalon fake pic and i had to dig through logs.
Jan 20 17:49:10 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 20 17:49:12 <mircea_popescu>	omfg.
Jan 20 17:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol it went from .25 to 4 today
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Jan 20 17:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/147/mtgox-out-of-business-by-end-of-year/
Jan 20 17:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	you'd think people give it better chances of survival than 2 out of 3 ?
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Jan 20 17:51:28 <jurov>	don't you plan assbot or gribble bbet plugin?
Jan 20 17:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	not a bad idea.
Jan 20 17:51:55 <jurov>	!bet "Milos Zeman"
Jan 20 17:52:17 <assbot>	 nah.
Jan 20 17:52:30 <assbot>	 no clue
Jan 20 17:52:33 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 20 17:52:49 <jurov>	(Y)
Jan 20 17:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00062622 = 15.0919 BTC [+]
Jan 20 17:52:59 <assbot>	 what do you want anyway, search?
Jan 20 17:53:34 <mircea_popescu>	both search and ticker.
Jan 20 17:53:39 <mircea_popescu>	tho it could be in a #bitbet chan
Jan 20 17:54:36 <assbot>	 ill see what i can do
Jan 20 17:54:47 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
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Jan 20 17:54:58 <smickles_>	there I am again
Jan 20 17:54:58 <jurov>	!sudo make bitbet interface
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Jan 20 17:55:15 <smickles_>	anyone wanna bet if I last more than 2 min. this time?
Jan 20 17:55:23 <smickles_>	fuck
Jan 20 17:55:28 <jcpham>	i imagine a mtgox "out of business" would mostly be a united states vs. mtgox thing
Jan 20 17:55:30 <thestringpuller>	I bet 4 minutes
Jan 20 17:55:46 <thestringpuller>	why hasn't my MPOE bet gone in yet
Jan 20 17:56:00 <thestringpuller>	!ticker bring me kakobrekla
Jan 20 17:56:00 <smickles_>	thestringpuller: notice I didn't even finish that line b/f it dropped
Jan 20 17:56:00 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Jan 20 17:56:12 <kakobrekla>	sup
Jan 20 17:56:14 <thestringpuller>	that's racist
Jan 20 17:56:31 <thestringpuller>	approve my bet yo so I can throw down mad btc
Jan 20 17:56:35 <smickles_>	racist? more like country-ist
Jan 20 17:56:37 <thestringpuller>	pop rubberbands and shit
Jan 20 17:56:38 <kakobrekla>	bug mircea_popescu
Jan 20 17:56:54 <jcpham>	smickles which datacenter is that vps in
Jan 20 17:56:55 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is always "busy"
Jan 20 17:57:03 <kakobrekla>	ya well
Jan 20 17:57:10 <kakobrekla>	not much i can do bout that
Jan 20 17:57:16 <thestringpuller>	i see how it is kakobrekla
Jan 20 17:57:31 <kakobrekla>	how is it?
Jan 20 17:57:32 <smickles_>	jcpham: the californian one
Jan 20 17:57:34 <thestringpuller>	it's because I'm black
Jan 20 17:57:39 <thestringpuller>	you racist
Jan 20 17:57:41 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 20 17:57:44 <kakobrekla>	i thoght you were Indian
Jan 20 17:58:12 <jcpham>	switzerland doesn't seem to have that problem fwiw
Jan 20 17:58:23 <kakobrekla>	no but srsly thestringpuller it has nothing to do with you
Jan 20 17:58:50 <kakobrekla>	thestringpuller, i just dont approve or resolve bets so i dont get in a way of person that does that
Jan 20 17:59:40 <jurov>	already contacted them? go to #bitvps
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Jan 20 17:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00515772 = 3.3525 BTC [-]
Jan 20 18:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller what's your hurry, not like it hits 100 today.
Jan 20 18:01:04 <thestringpuller>	I just like pretending to be the impatient 12 year old
Jan 20 18:01:10 <thestringpuller>	"ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET?"
Jan 20 18:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	you're prolly the only one
Jan 20 18:01:37 <thestringpuller>	Don't lose you childhood spirit!
Jan 20 18:01:46 <thestringpuller>	Welcome to the world of Imaginaaation.
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Jan 20 18:02:37 *	jurov gives thestringpuller a lollipop
Jan 20 18:04:06 <thestringpuller>	yaaaaaaay
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Jan 20 18:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 52 @ 0.00522625 = 0.2718 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 18:12:24 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.BBET
Jan 20 18:12:24 <assbot>	I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
Jan 20 18:12:29 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.BBET
Jan 20 18:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00100008 / 0.00100596 / 0.00129998 (10200 shares, 10.26 BTC), 7D: 0.00100007 / 0.00154533 / 0.0018 (260946 shares, 403.25 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00078306 / 0.0035 (2257312 shares, 1,767.63 BTC)
Jan 20 18:13:26 <thestringpuller>	sell yo puts
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Jan 20 18:26:18 <dub>	I prepared my canoe with sonar yesterday
Jan 20 18:27:12 <dub>	going to lay waste to some fish this arfternoon
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Jan 20 18:28:52 <TradeFortress>	hi!
Jan 20 18:29:05 <assbot>	 hi!
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Jan 20 18:32:50 <smickles__>	hi?
Jan 20 18:32:58 <smickles__>	from assbot?
Jan 20 18:34:20 <assbot>	 Yes smickles__, I'm smart like that.
Jan 20 18:35:05 <TradeFortress>	or assbot is manually controled.
Jan 20 18:35:08 <TradeFortress>	controlled*
Jan 20 18:35:41 *	smickles (~smickles@mostofmany.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Jan 20 18:35:42 <smickles__>	naw, i'ts got 'bot' in the name
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Jan 20 18:36:48 <jurov>	wait till it starts asking for help
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Jan 20 18:39:38 <jurov>	;;rated assbot
Jan 20 18:39:38 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user assbot
Jan 20 18:40:03 <jurov>	;;rate assbot -10 scammer
Jan 20 18:40:03 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system.
Jan 20 18:40:08 <jurov>	nah
Jan 20 18:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3250 @ 0.00525495 = 17.0786 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 18:40:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell assbot ass, bot!
Jan 20 18:40:49 <TradeFortress>	hahaha
Jan 20 18:40:49 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 20 18:41:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 18 @ 0.339 = 6.102 BTC [+]
Jan 20 18:41:04 <jurov>	;;getrating assbot
Jan 20 18:41:04 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
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Jan 20 18:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	we need an asspot to go with the assbot
Jan 20 18:42:06 <jurov>	is he old enough for toilet training?
Jan 20 18:42:11 <mircea_popescu>	smickles is like, on dial-up. and some friendly 70yo neighbour keeps picking up the receiver.
Jan 20 18:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> is he old enough for toilet trading? << fify
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Jan 20 19:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00062532 = 15.0077 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12376 @ 0.00062149 = 7.6916 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 19:10:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 117 @ 0.0085 = 0.9945 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:13:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00062149 = 1.4294 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://xbradtc.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/may20.jpg
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Jan 20 19:22:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 820 @ 0.09472763 = 77.6767 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.06097484 = 60.9748 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:22:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.03541299 = 35.413 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 19:29:20 <dub>	inb4 xibit gets jihad'd
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Jan 20 19:30:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6429 @ 0.00062149 = 3.9956 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:30:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82 @ 0.00062 = 0.0508 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 19:31:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00061667 = 7.77 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:31:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9235 @ 0.00061534 = 5.6827 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 19:34:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00061886 = 6.2505 BTC [+]
Jan 20 19:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 148 @ 0.00515773 = 0.7633 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:38:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1890 @ 0.00515772 = 9.7481 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:39:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00061633 = 8.4129 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 19:44:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 10 @ 0.0413 = 0.413 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 19:48:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00061633 = 2.3421 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:48:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18048 @ 0.00061534 = 11.1057 BTC [-]
Jan 20 19:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00129997 = 0.65 BTC [+]
Jan 20 19:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4073 @ 0.00061886 = 2.5206 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 19:55:14 <kakobrekla>	wall-e http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
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Jan 20 19:56:12 <dub>	pff its only 15k
Jan 20 19:56:46 <dub>	weak attempt to push teh price down
Jan 20 19:56:48 <kakobrekla>	thats why i added the -e
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Jan 20 20:02:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1564 BTC [+]
Jan 20 20:03:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.745 = 1.49 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:03:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.7409 = 1.4818 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:03:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 9 @ 0.7408 = 6.6672 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:03:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.7406 = 3.703 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:03:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:04:08 <dub>	e-securitys a btc?
Jan 20 20:04:44 <Namworld>	eSecurity SA BTC
Jan 20 20:04:48 <Namworld>	I think
Jan 20 20:06:47 <error4733>	^pirate40 new startup
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Jan 20 20:08:50 <Bugpowder>	now THAT is a nice bid wall.  http://mtgoxlive.com/orders
Jan 20 20:08:56 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 20 20:08:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.65000, Best ask: 15.67000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 15.65000, 24 hour volume: 26759.61617657, 24 hour low: 15.53063, 24 hour high: 15.89000, 24 hour vwap: 15.72286
Jan 20 20:09:06 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 15.50
Jan 20 20:09:06 <dub>	still only 15k
Jan 20 20:09:07 <gribble>	There are currently 17914.01 bitcoins demanded at or over 15.5 USD, worth 279554.69756 USD in total.
Jan 20 20:09:35 <dub>	The Manipulator is sneering at such puny walls
Jan 20 20:09:50 <Bugpowder>	The Manipulator is in bangkok
Jan 20 20:10:18 <Bugpowder>	I'm long 1000 C160Ts.
Jan 20 20:10:23 <Bugpowder>	fucking rally
Jan 20 20:11:13 <dub>	I have some bad news for you
Jan 20 20:11:37 <Bugpowder>	Monday is MTGOX day
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Jan 20 20:12:11 <dub>	wall is goign to swap sides any minute
Jan 20 20:12:18 <Bugpowder>	Also short a shitload of P200T
Jan 20 20:12:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC
Jan 20 20:12:24 <Bugpowder>	dub u funny
Jan 20 20:12:26 <dub>	and $13
Jan 20 20:12:32 <dub>	in 3-2-
Jan 20 20:12:47 <Bugpowder>	pirate has spoken
Jan 20 20:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23127 @ 0.00061886 = 14.3124 BTC [+]
Jan 20 20:15:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:16:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 20:20:52 <dub>	goddamit
Jan 20 20:20:52 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 20 20:20:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.65322, Best ask: 15.79900, Bid-ask spread: 0.14578, Last trade: 15.80000, 24 hour volume: 27916.50890789, 24 hour low: 15.53063, 24 hour high: 15.89000, 24 hour vwap: 15.72564
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Jan 20 20:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16285 @ 0.00061847 = 10.0718 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:24:26 <Bugpowder>	oh my
Jan 20 20:24:30 <Bugpowder>	it is going down
Jan 20 20:24:38 <Bugpowder>	the bidwall is unchanged
Jan 20 20:24:47 <Bugpowder>	the asks just get gobbled
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Jan 20 20:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 465 @ 0.00061847 = 0.2876 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4043 @ 0.00061647 = 2.4924 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 382 @ 0.00061534 = 0.2351 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1766 @ 0.0006148 = 1.0857 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 20:32:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00504448 = 11.0979 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:35:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7374 @ 0.00061886 = 4.5635 BTC [+]
Jan 20 20:37:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8634 @ 0.0006148 = 5.3082 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:38:23 <Bugpowder>	booyah
Jan 20 20:38:39 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 20 20:38:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.90300, Best ask: 15.90344, Bid-ask spread: 0.00044, Last trade: 15.90300, 24 hour volume: 32382.72738177, 24 hour low: 15.53063, 24 hour high: 15.90300, 24 hour vwap: 15.74696
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Jan 20 20:39:46 <Bugpowder>	askwall got impatient
Jan 20 20:40:29 <fullusr>	found this btc forex site
Jan 20 20:40:35 <fullusr>	https://1broker.com/
Jan 20 20:40:45 <fullusr>	thought could be useful for people here
Jan 20 20:42:24 <Namworld>	Who's website is that?
Jan 20 20:42:44 <fullusr>	exxe on bitcointalk
Jan 20 20:42:50 <Namworld>	Isn't that something Kako wanted to do?
Jan 20 20:42:54 <fullusr>	dont know anything about the owner
Jan 20 20:43:05 <fullusr>	no it isnt from kako
Jan 20 20:43:34 <kakobrekla>	kako doesnt want, kako does Namworld, bit4x.com
Jan 20 20:43:47 <fullusr>	i opened a few orders won 0.01 and withdraw
Jan 20 20:43:53 <fullusr>	its the competence
Jan 20 20:44:09 <fullusr>	and does not require 100 BTC :-)
Jan 20 20:44:42 <Bugpowder>	;;ricker
Jan 20 20:44:43 <gribble>	Error: "ricker" is not a valid command.
Jan 20 20:44:45 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 20 20:44:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.01000, Best ask: 16.01095, Bid-ask spread: 0.00095, Last trade: 16.01000, 24 hour volume: 36586.07691903, 24 hour low: 15.53063, 24 hour high: 16.01000, 24 hour vwap: 15.77332
Jan 20 20:45:50 <Bugpowder>	what's the current best way for people to buy $5k+ of bitcoins
Jan 20 20:45:50 <Bugpowder>	?
Jan 20 20:46:35 <kakobrekla>	dunno for the us
Jan 20 20:46:49 <Namworld>	bank transfer, bank transfer, bank transfer
Jan 20 20:47:00 <kakobrekla>	but i usually use the people i know and get it with cash :)
Jan 20 20:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8116 @ 0.00061479 = 4.9896 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1909 @ 0.00061886 = 1.1814 BTC [+]
Jan 20 20:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4472 @ 0.00062147 = 2.7792 BTC [+]
Jan 20 20:48:41 <dub>	aka pirate
Jan 20 20:48:45 <Bugpowder>	THE CALLS ARE IN THE MONEY
Jan 20 20:48:48 <Bugpowder>	yeaaah
Jan 20 20:48:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00061219 = 5.2036 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:48:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00061212 = 4.8664 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:48:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.0006106 = 2.9919 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:49:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00061059 = 12.2118 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:49:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00061058 = 9.2198 BTC [-]
Jan 20 20:49:03 <Bugpowder>	Namworld, I like bitcoins direct
Jan 20 20:49:42 <Bugpowder>	but they aren't opening new accounts and I don't want to move 10k of other peoples money thru my personal accounts
Jan 20 20:50:02 <Bugpowder>	so do you think wire to mtgox is the best?
Jan 20 20:50:12 <kakobrekla>	or bitstamp
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Jan 20 20:52:48 <kakobrekla>	less wait time than gox
Jan 20 20:52:52 <kakobrekla>	at least from here
Jan 20 20:53:32 <kakobrekla>	they have a bug in the fee processing they dont wanna fix cause they make more bucks
Jan 20 20:53:43 <Bugpowder>	hmm I can't find the withdrawl limits
Jan 20 20:53:50 <kakobrekla>	but still that doesnt stop anyone from using them
Jan 20 20:54:01 <Bugpowder>	its a double fee bug?
Jan 20 20:54:04 <kakobrekla>	no
Jan 20 20:54:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2027 @ 0.00509232 = 10.3221 BTC [+]
Jan 20 20:55:07 <kakobrekla>	basically what you see here
Jan 20 20:55:08 <kakobrekla>	https://www.bitstamp.net/market/order/
Jan 20 20:55:13 <kakobrekla>	are orders grouped by price
Jan 20 20:55:38 <kakobrekla>	behind each price/offer there can be several small orders
Jan 20 20:55:47 <kakobrekla>	like 0.000001 small
Jan 20 20:56:13 <kakobrekla>	and they will take a fee from each of those if you hit them, min fee is 0.01 usd
Jan 20 20:56:33 <kakobrekla>	so i had cases where fee was larger than the trade value itself
Jan 20 20:56:55 <kakobrekla>	so i told them to add api call to list non mergerd order list
Jan 20 20:56:57 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 20 20:56:58 <kakobrekla>	which they did
Jan 20 20:57:06 <kakobrekla>	but just stoped my arb bot
Jan 20 20:57:10 <kakobrekla>	wasnt worth it
Jan 20 20:57:14 <Bugpowder>	oops
Jan 20 20:57:48 <kakobrekla>	the answer was it will be fixed
Jan 20 20:57:55 <kakobrekla>	and like half a year later
Jan 20 20:57:56 <kakobrekla>	same shit.
Jan 20 20:58:08 <kakobrekla>	prolly cause im the only one noticing
Jan 20 20:58:11 <kakobrekla>	or smth
Jan 20 20:58:32 <Bugpowder>	$16.50 tonight
Jan 20 20:58:37 <Bugpowder>	fo shizz
Jan 20 20:58:51 <Bugpowder>	well 16.49
Jan 20 20:59:09 <kakobrekla>	i emptied my connections, got just under 5k eur worth on credit 3 hours ago
Jan 20 21:01:10 <kakobrekla>	speaking of bitstamp http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/0
Jan 20 21:01:48 <kakobrekla>	when the trend is reverse, stamp will follow
Jan 20 21:01:49 <Bugpowder>	nice timing
Jan 20 21:02:07 <kakobrekla>	gox leads in any case
Jan 20 21:02:11 <kakobrekla>	with the trend
Jan 20 21:04:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00523388 = 7.8508 BTC [+]
Jan 20 21:07:49 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
Jan 20 21:07:52 <kakobrekla>	better view
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Jan 20 21:10:23 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 20 21:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00061809 = 10.7239 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 21:15:52 <Bugpowder>	16.50 wall melted away
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Jan 20 21:26:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00523388 = 1.5702 BTC [+]
Jan 20 21:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59 @ 0.00061809 = 0.0365 BTC [+]
Jan 20 21:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21241 @ 0.00061454 = 13.0534 BTC [-]
Jan 20 21:31:55 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 20 21:31:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.05033, Best ask: 16.06310, Bid-ask spread: 0.01277, Last trade: 16.08900, 24 hour volume: 37875.86031201, 24 hour low: 15.53063, 24 hour high: 16.08900, 24 hour vwap: 15.78428
Jan 20 21:32:05 <TradeFortress>	oh wow
Jan 20 21:32:20 <Bugpowder>	1000 C160Ts...
Jan 20 21:32:23 <Bugpowder>	come on baby
Jan 20 21:34:03 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 20 21:34:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.99204, Best ask: 16.12684, Bid-ask spread: 0.13480, Last trade: 15.99103, 24 hour volume: 38107.41443412, 24 hour low: 15.53063, 24 hour high: 16.14900, 24 hour vwap: 15.78616
Jan 20 21:34:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 21:45:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00525495 = 9.9844 BTC [+]
Jan 20 21:48:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12778 @ 0.00062147 = 7.9411 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 22:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6241 @ 0.00062179 = 3.8806 BTC [+]
Jan 20 22:05:06 <fullusr>	@kakobrekla you ve got some competition
Jan 20 22:05:18 <fullusr>	http://1broker.com
Jan 20 22:05:33 <fullusr>	starting at 0.01 BTC
Jan 20 22:05:52 <fullusr>	remember you said it wasnt posible
Jan 20 22:06:18 <fullusr>	well a guy on bitcointalk put up that site
Jan 20 22:06:32 <fullusr>	and it just works
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Jan 20 22:13:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.41 = 0.82 BTC [+]
Jan 20 22:13:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.4051 = 2.4306 BTC [-]
Jan 20 22:22:38 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 20 22:22:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.87500, Best ask: 15.88900, Bid-ask spread: 0.01400, Last trade: 15.87500, 24 hour volume: 39089.72259208, 24 hour low: 15.53063, 24 hour high: 16.15686, 24 hour vwap: 15.79474
Jan 20 22:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00062249 = 7.4076 BTC [+]
Jan 20 22:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 559 @ 0.00062179 = 0.3476 BTC [-]
Jan 20 22:29:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4672 @ 0.00062177 = 2.9049 BTC [-]
Jan 20 22:29:59 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 20 22:29:59 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 43 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <smickles> yes, just saw it
Jan 20 22:30:26 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: could you buy me some mpoe?
Jan 20 22:30:39 <thestringpuller>	and push to smickles? I have bc
Jan 20 22:30:58 <Bugpowder>	uhhh
Jan 20 22:31:06 <thestringpuller>	btc*
Jan 20 22:31:06 <Bugpowder>	we gotta get some deposit in there
Jan 20 22:31:16 <thestringpuller>	jurov: I SUMMON THEEEE
Jan 20 22:31:23 <Bugpowder>	u want to send me coins and then I deposit and buy and push to smickles?
Jan 20 22:31:43 <thestringpuller>	how long does MP usually take to process I only want a small amount
Jan 20 22:31:46 <thestringpuller>	2 btc wort
Jan 20 22:31:50 <thestringpuller>	worth*
Jan 20 22:31:52 <Bugpowder>	jeeze
Jan 20 22:31:54 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 20 22:32:00 <Bugpowder>	I can spot you
Jan 20 22:32:20 <Bugpowder>	send here
Jan 20 22:32:20 <Bugpowder>	188WzMcjrHCaY1S54pM92ivRCuiCNPwPSm
Jan 20 22:32:27 <Bugpowder>	I will buy and push
Jan 20 22:32:50 <thestringpuller>	what is current bid
Jan 20 22:33:05 <thestringpuller>	holy shit
Jan 20 22:34:12 <thestringpuller>	it's at record lows for the month
Jan 20 22:34:25 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 20 22:34:26 <thestringpuller>	assbot bring me ticker
Jan 20 22:34:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1741 @ 0.0010001 = 1.7412 BTC [-]
Jan 20 22:34:27 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Jan 20 22:34:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061058 / 0.00063147 / 0.00065797 (1375460 shares, 868.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00061058 / 0.00065912 / 0.00068 (12408089 shares, 8,178.53 BTC), 30D: 0.00061058 / 0.00064618 / 0.00068 (38161221 shares, 24,659.23 BTC)
Jan 20 22:35:17 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 20 22:35:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.00001, Best ask: 16.08971, Bid-ask spread: 0.08970, Last trade: 16.00001, 24 hour volume: 39050.42212942, 24 hour low: 15.53063, 24 hour high: 16.15686, 24 hour vwap: 15.79594
Jan 20 22:35:28 <thestringpuller>	HOLY SHIT
Jan 20 22:35:33 <thestringpuller>	WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
Jan 20 22:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3329 @ 0.00061932 = 2.0617 BTC [-]
Jan 20 22:35:53 <Bugpowder>	dude
Jan 20 22:35:55 <Bugpowder>	where have you been
Jan 20 22:36:07 <Bugpowder>	15k ask wall went up at 15.65
Jan 20 22:36:11 <Bugpowder>	shit hit the fan
Jan 20 22:36:24 <Bugpowder>	I bot your S.MPOE
Jan 20 22:36:59 <Bugpowder>	send me the fingerprint and the coins
Jan 20 22:37:18 <thestringpuller>	i'm grabbing that as we speak
Jan 20 22:37:22 <thestringpuller>	how much what is recepit
Jan 20 22:37:35 <Bugpowder>	<@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3329 @ 0.00061932 = 2.0617 BTC [-]
Jan 20 22:37:38 <thestringpuller>	i'm on very very slow internet to my system
Jan 20 22:37:59 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 2/.00061932
Jan 20 22:38:00 <gribble>	3229.34831751
Jan 20 22:38:12 <Bugpowder>	I send 3229
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Jan 20 22:40:12 <thestringpuller>	2 btc it is
Jan 20 22:40:16 <thestringpuller>	one second my friedn
Jan 20 22:40:33 <thestringpuller>	my eamil won't load
Jan 20 22:41:23 <Bugpowder>	no worries
Jan 20 22:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13164 @ 0.00061454 = 8.0898 BTC [-]
Jan 20 22:43:52 <thestringpuller>	8a4f8e2a481ce7e9c493d6644d0c6281cd4ddd0b470b8b844c46cc9a53b6caad - txid
Jan 20 22:44:11 <thestringpuller>	96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F - smickles gpg fingerprint
Jan 20 22:44:34 <thestringpuller>	we good?
Jan 20 22:44:51 <Bugpowder>	ok, you are sure that fingerprint is his account?
Jan 20 22:45:05 <thestringpuller>	he sent it to me himself
Jan 20 22:45:24 <thestringpuller>	i can't hit blockchain
Jan 20 22:46:12 <Bugpowder>	done
Jan 20 22:46:13 <thestringpuller>	blockchain is down...
Jan 20 22:46:18 <thestringpuller>	da fook
Jan 20 22:46:42 <Bugpowder>	its up
Jan 20 22:46:44 <Bugpowder>	for me
Jan 20 22:51:24 <thestringpuller>	;;tell smickles --later Bugpowder brokered 3229 s.mpoe for me i emailed receipt
Jan 20 22:51:25 <gribble>	Error: I haven't seen smickles, I'll let you do the telling.
Jan 20 22:52:08 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell smickles Bugpowder brokered 3229 s.mpoe for me i emailed receipt
Jan 20 22:52:08 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 20 22:55:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2490 @ 0.00061932 = 1.5421 BTC [+]
Jan 20 22:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00062095 = 3.2289 BTC [+]
Jan 20 22:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1010 @ 0.00062249 = 0.6287 BTC [+]
Jan 20 22:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5745 @ 0.00061454 = 3.5305 BTC [-]
Jan 20 22:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00061262 = 4.1964 BTC [-]
Jan 20 22:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3405 @ 0.00061121 = 2.0812 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 23:07:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00062249 = 3.4859 BTC [+]
Jan 20 23:13:07 <thestringpuller>	Oh bugpowder
Jan 20 23:13:19 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popsesu
Jan 20 23:13:19 <gribble>	I have not seen mircea_popsesu.
Jan 20 23:13:22 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popsescu
Jan 20 23:13:23 <gribble>	I have not seen mircea_popsescu.
Jan 20 23:13:28 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Jan 20 23:13:28 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 54 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> http://xbradtc.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/may20.jpg
Jan 20 23:14:33 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell mircea_popescu I saw that image while I was drunk, funniest thing I've seen in awhile
Jan 20 23:14:35 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 20 23:33:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 18 @ 0.3399 = 6.1182 BTC [-]
Jan 20 23:33:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.34 = 2.04 BTC [+]
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Jan 20 23:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00062045 = 2.5749 BTC [-]
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Jan 20 23:50:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7745 @ 0.00061121 = 4.7338 BTC [-]
Jan 20 23:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6313 @ 0.00061084 = 3.8562 BTC [-]
Jan 20 23:53:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00062009 = 2.1083 BTC [+]
Jan 20 23:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2162 @ 0.00062009 = 1.3406 BTC [+]
Jan 20 23:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 538 @ 0.00062045 = 0.3338 BTC [+]
Jan 20 23:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5731 @ 0.00061084 = 3.5007 BTC [-]
Jan 20 23:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7019 @ 0.00061058 = 4.2857 BTC [-]
Jan 21 00:10:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4590 @ 0.00062042 = 2.8477 BTC [+]
Jan 21 00:10:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3043 @ 0.00062045 = 1.888 BTC [+]
Jan 21 00:16:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 873 @ 0.0051906 = 4.5314 BTC [-]
Jan 21 00:16:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 127 @ 0.00513968 = 0.6527 BTC [-]
Jan 21 00:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8751 @ 0.00061844 = 5.412 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 00:43:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6569 @ 0.00062045 = 4.0757 BTC [+]
Jan 21 00:49:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7885 @ 0.00062045 = 4.8922 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 00:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19673 @ 0.00061969 = 12.1912 BTC [-]
Jan 21 00:55:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1627 @ 0.00061969 = 1.0082 BTC [-]
Jan 21 00:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4473 @ 0.00061844 = 2.7663 BTC [-]
Jan 21 00:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00513968 = 2.5698 BTC [-]
Jan 21 01:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12276 @ 0.00061844 = 7.592 BTC [-]
Jan 21 01:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5824 @ 0.00061743 = 3.5959 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 01:04:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1815 @ 0.00062045 = 1.1261 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8884 @ 0.00062249 = 5.5302 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25414 @ 0.00062277 = 15.8271 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:04:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32090 @ 0.00062388 = 20.0203 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3190 @ 0.000625 = 1.9938 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3643 @ 0.000625 = 2.2769 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:19:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9311 @ 0.00062507 = 5.82 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 01:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1373 @ 0.00061743 = 0.8477 BTC [-]
Jan 21 01:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6831 @ 0.00061058 = 4.1709 BTC [-]
Jan 21 01:29:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2496 @ 0.00060969 = 1.5218 BTC [-]
Jan 21 01:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19189 @ 0.00062507 = 11.9945 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6206 @ 0.00062622 = 3.8863 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062649 = 9.3974 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:35:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00062886 = 13.2689 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:35:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00063047 = 3.2784 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:35:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5605 @ 0.0006312 = 3.5379 BTC [+]
Jan 21 01:57:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00525495 = 8.4079 BTC [+]
Jan 21 02:00:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6383 @ 0.00061811 = 3.9454 BTC [-]
Jan 21 02:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5517 @ 0.00061811 = 3.4101 BTC [-]
Jan 21 02:32:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9491 @ 0.00061522 = 5.8391 BTC [-]
Jan 21 02:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7320 @ 0.00060969 = 4.4629 BTC [-]
Jan 21 02:34:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 15 @ 0.05139051 = 0.7709 BTC [+]
Jan 21 02:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00060969 = 3.3228 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 02:52:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00060969 = 2.4997 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 03:07:21 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 21 03:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00481977 / 0.00513888 / 0.00525495 (42792 shares, 219.90 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00478954 / 0.00598999 (1891602 shares, 9,059.91 BTC), 30D: 0.0032 / 0.00414851 / 0.00598999 (9437928 shares, 39,153.42 BTC)
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Jan 21 03:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2506 @ 0.00060969 = 1.5279 BTC [-]
Jan 21 03:14:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00060884 = 5.0838 BTC [-]
Jan 21 03:14:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1644 @ 0.00060756 = 0.9988 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 03:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12756 @ 0.00060756 = 7.75 BTC [-]
Jan 21 03:31:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4409 @ 0.00060731 = 2.6776 BTC [-]
Jan 21 03:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12423 @ 0.00060731 = 7.5446 BTC [-]
Jan 21 03:33:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2827 @ 0.00060336 = 1.7057 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 03:48:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4436 @ 0.00060336 = 2.6765 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 04:00:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.405 = 0.81 BTC [-]
Jan 21 04:00:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 04:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10787 @ 0.00060336 = 6.5084 BTC [-]
Jan 21 04:10:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00060287 = 1.688 BTC [-]
Jan 21 04:10:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.0006017 = 24.8502 BTC [-]
Jan 21 04:10:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10263 @ 0.00060168 = 6.175 BTC [-]
Jan 21 04:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00518427 = 1.5553 BTC [-]
Jan 21 04:14:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2116 @ 0.00525495 = 11.1195 BTC [+]
Jan 21 04:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00061091 = 3.696 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 04:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6792 @ 0.00061091 = 4.1493 BTC [+]
Jan 21 04:30:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11708 @ 0.00061091 = 7.1525 BTC [+]
Jan 21 04:30:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5192 @ 0.00061096 = 3.1721 BTC [+]
Jan 21 04:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1661 @ 0.00060168 = 0.9994 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 04:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3846 @ 0.00060168 = 2.3141 BTC [-]
Jan 21 04:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.999 BTC [+]
Jan 21 04:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00060344 = 0.9052 BTC [+]
Jan 21 04:46:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00060344 = 9.293 BTC [+]
Jan 21 04:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 475 @ 0.00060168 = 0.2858 BTC [-]
Jan 21 04:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00060146 = 4.962 BTC [-]
Jan 21 04:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7975 @ 0.00060122 = 4.7947 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 05:24:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00060123 = 5.5914 BTC [+]
Jan 21 05:25:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00060123 = 0.1503 BTC [+]
Jan 21 05:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8397 @ 0.00060122 = 5.0484 BTC [-]
Jan 21 05:35:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00060262 = 9.6419 BTC [+]
Jan 21 05:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5079 @ 0.00060122 = 3.0536 BTC [-]
Jan 21 05:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 432 @ 0.0053219 = 2.2991 BTC [+]
Jan 21 05:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00060122 = 4.8699 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 06:02:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00060123 = 9.0185 BTC [+]
Jan 21 06:02:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00060122 = 0.7515 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 06:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00060262 = 4.3991 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 06:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00060262 = 2.8323 BTC [+]
Jan 21 06:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00060344 = 5.0689 BTC [+]
Jan 21 06:25:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.00060893 = 2.1794 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 06:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00530239 = 7.9536 BTC [-]
Jan 21 06:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 247 @ 0.00530238 = 1.3097 BTC [-]
Jan 21 06:29:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 309 @ 0.00525 = 1.6223 BTC [-]
Jan 21 06:40:59 <kakobrekla>	Infiniti Poker Set to Go Live in February: Will Use Bitcoins for Americans
Jan 21 06:40:59 <kakobrekla>	“Because we’re using Bitcoin, we’re not using U.S. banks—it’s all peer-to-peer,” Hajduk told BusinessWeek.com in regard to fears over potentially breaking current US laws. “I don’t believe we’ll be doing anything wrong.
Jan 21 06:41:13 <kakobrekla>	http://www.gambling911.com/poker/infiniti-poker-set-go-live-february-will-use-bitcoins-americans-012013.html
Jan 21 06:41:21 <kakobrekla>	bye micon?
Jan 21 06:41:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 578 @ 0.00060122 = 0.3475 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 06:41:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14222 @ 0.0006011 = 8.5488 BTC [-]
Jan 21 06:51:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.0055 = 0.033 BTC [-]
Jan 21 06:53:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 420 @ 0.00525 = 2.205 BTC [-]
Jan 21 06:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 852 @ 0.00524149 = 4.4657 BTC [-]
Jan 21 06:58:35 <jurov>	thestringpuller, sry i usually don't respond to summons at 04:29 CET
Jan 21 06:59:26 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 21 06:59:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.40637, Best ask: 16.53418, Bid-ask spread: 0.12781, Last trade: 16.39526, 24 hour volume: 36457.34278264, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.70000, 24 hour vwap: 15.99778
Jan 21 06:59:33 <jurov>	my god
Jan 21 07:05:34 <kakobrekla>	lol i just realized, i have a single customer that is larger than whole 1Broker
Jan 21 07:06:19 <jurov>	hehe yes it happens :)
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Jan 21 07:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24991 @ 0.00060232 = 15.0526 BTC [+]
Jan 21 07:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00060738 = 4.0087 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 07:12:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 10 @ 0.72 = 7.2 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 07:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2809 @ 0.00060804 = 1.708 BTC [+]
Jan 21 07:18:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3306 @ 0.0006011 = 1.9872 BTC [-]
Jan 21 07:18:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00060071 = 3.9647 BTC [-]
Jan 21 07:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00060061 = 4.3244 BTC [-]
Jan 21 07:18:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5435 @ 0.00060008 = 3.2614 BTC [-]
Jan 21 07:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11015 @ 0.00060008 = 6.6099 BTC [-]
Jan 21 07:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8685 @ 0.0006 = 5.211 BTC [-]
Jan 21 07:24:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.57 = 1.14 BTC [+]
Jan 21 07:27:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20750 @ 0.0006 = 12.45 BTC [-]
Jan 21 07:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 884 @ 0.0053 = 4.6852 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 07:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00060893 = 4.7497 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 07:59:41 <kakobrekla>	down
Jan 21 07:59:43 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Jan 21 07:59:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.10000, Best ask: 16.10997, Bid-ask spread: 0.00997, Last trade: 16.10000, 24 hour volume: 44684.00628135, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.70000, 24 hour vwap: 16.08003
Jan 21 08:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00060419 = 4.2293 BTC [-]
Jan 21 08:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3135 @ 0.00060223 = 1.888 BTC [-]
Jan 21 08:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11244 @ 0.0006 = 6.7464 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 08:15:22 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 21 08:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004901 / 0.00517549 / 0.0053219 (39777 shares, 205.87 BTC), 7D: 0.00449034 / 0.00479683 / 0.00598999 (1839870 shares, 8,825.55 BTC), 30D: 0.0032 / 0.00414935 / 0.00598999 (9444988 shares, 39,190.63 BTC)
Jan 21 08:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.0006 = 14.49 BTC [-]
Jan 21 08:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15490 @ 0.00060419 = 9.3589 BTC [+]
Jan 21 08:20:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.0006 = 11.28 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 08:52:03 <Bugpowder>	HEEEYO
Jan 21 08:53:01 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 21 08:53:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.36843, Best ask: 16.45598, Bid-ask spread: 0.08755, Last trade: 16.45598, 24 hour volume: 46012.49478065, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.70000, 24 hour vwap: 16.09633
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Jan 21 09:09:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.0052699 = 8.6953 BTC [-]
Jan 21 09:10:15 <Bugpowder>	BIDWALL @ 16.50
Jan 21 09:11:31 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 21 09:11:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.49001, Best ask: 16.49100, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 16.49000, 24 hour volume: 46183.98018035, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.70000, 24 hour vwap: 16.09854
Jan 21 09:11:43 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 16.45
Jan 21 09:11:45 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 16.45 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 21 09:25:54 <FabianB_>	woah, where are we heading?
Jan 21 09:29:47 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 21 09:29:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.56000, Best ask: 16.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 16.60000, 24 hour volume: 46667.37538040, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.70000, 24 hour vwap: 16.10462
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Jan 21 09:31:34 <Bugpowder>	Maybe 18.50 by friday?
Jan 21 09:34:12 <Bugpowder>	If it can break thru 17... game over man
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Jan 21 09:42:26 <JWU_42>	kinda scary right now
Jan 21 09:42:29 <JWU_42>	;)
Jan 21 09:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 69 @ 0.0052699 = 0.3636 BTC [-]
Jan 21 09:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 310 @ 0.00524149 = 1.6249 BTC [-]
Jan 21 09:44:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00523251 = 13.6045 BTC [-]
Jan 21 09:44:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 221 @ 0.00521186 = 1.1518 BTC [-]
Jan 21 09:47:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1435 @ 0.00060419 = 0.867 BTC [+]
Jan 21 09:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37533 @ 0.00060893 = 22.855 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 10:01:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
Jan 21 10:01:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3508 BTC [-]
Jan 21 10:01:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.3501 = 3.501 BTC [-]
Jan 21 10:01:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.3301 = 0.9903 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 10:06:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1270 @ 0.0013 = 1.651 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 10:15:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00060298 = 5.9394 BTC [-]
Jan 21 10:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00060142 = 0.1203 BTC [-]
Jan 21 10:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00060142 = 2.9169 BTC [-]
Jan 21 10:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14867 @ 0.0006 = 8.9202 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 10:17:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2129 @ 0.00521186 = 11.096 BTC [-]
Jan 21 10:17:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 867 @ 0.00520934 = 4.5165 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 10:24:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00060472 = 5.3215 BTC [+]
Jan 21 10:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1504 @ 0.0006 = 0.9024 BTC [-]
Jan 21 10:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3595 @ 0.00059978 = 2.1562 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 10:39:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1565 @ 0.00059978 = 0.9387 BTC [-]
Jan 21 10:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 116 @ 0.0053 = 0.6148 BTC [+]
Jan 21 10:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 93 @ 0.0053219 = 0.4949 BTC [+]
Jan 21 10:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1991 @ 0.00533151 = 10.615 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 10:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00059978 = 3.6287 BTC [-]
Jan 21 10:46:08 <Korbman>	;;ticker
Jan 21 10:46:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.73735, Best ask: 16.84332, Bid-ask spread: 0.10597, Last trade: 16.73533, 24 hour volume: 52756.17100206, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.98000, 24 hour vwap: 16.18763
Jan 21 10:46:44 <Korbman>	Wait..what? I looked just the other day and it was $15.70...now you're trying to tell me we're reaching $17?
Jan 21 10:48:16 <Anduck>	16.73 atm
Jan 21 10:48:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 1.05 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 10:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16188 @ 0.00060893 = 9.8574 BTC [+]
Jan 21 10:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 408 @ 0.00061096 = 0.2493 BTC [+]
Jan 21 10:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6672 @ 0.00061217 = 4.0844 BTC [+]
Jan 21 10:57:58 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 21 10:57:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.78819, Best ask: 16.94860, Bid-ask spread: 0.16041, Last trade: 16.94859, 24 hour volume: 53194.02273291, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.98000, 24 hour vwap: 16.19784
Jan 21 10:58:36 <Bugpowder>	I doubt we break thru 17.  Asks are evaporating now
Jan 21 10:58:38 <Bugpowder>	err
Jan 21 10:58:39 <Bugpowder>	bids
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Jan 21 11:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6238 @ 0.00059978 = 3.7414 BTC [-]
Jan 21 11:00:45 <Korbman>	I didn't think we'd get this high to begin with (at least not as quickly)...so it doesn't surprise me the bids are slowing down
Jan 21 11:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1363 @ 0.00520934 = 7.1003 BTC [-]
Jan 21 11:02:07 <Bugpowder>	well some of the bids got impatient, and just went for the ask instead
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Jan 21 11:02:39 <Bugpowder>	Still tons of support at 15.60 and 16.10
Jan 21 11:02:59 <Bugpowder>	If t17 goes... its a free for all
Jan 21 11:03:51 <Bugpowder>	The MPOE market bot is undervaluing the calls right now too... 70 cent difference between vwap and current
Jan 21 11:10:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 81 @ 0.0085 = 0.6885 BTC [-]
Jan 21 11:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 993 @ 0.00517224 = 5.136 BTC [-]
Jan 21 11:11:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 145 @ 0.0089 = 1.2905 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 11:18:30 <JWU_42>	Bugpowder: agreed
Jan 21 11:18:35 <JWU_42>	walls are forming at 17
Jan 21 11:18:44 <JWU_42>	and not much to take us back to 16.50
Jan 21 11:19:09 <JWU_42>	or even 16
Jan 21 11:19:50 <Bugpowder>	I think we are safely above 16.10
Jan 21 11:20:09 <Bugpowder>	But my C160Ts really want us to be at 18.
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Jan 21 11:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00059978 = 7.5272 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 11:29:36 <jurov>	but why s.mpoe shareholders had to chose this time to cash out
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Jan 21 11:32:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 244 @ 0.00517224 = 1.262 BTC [-]
Jan 21 11:32:49 <Bugpowder>	cause MPOE is gonna have a bad week if the price keeps going up (I guess)
Jan 21 11:33:06 <jcpham>	looks like it will not stop any time soon
Jan 21 11:33:32 <jcpham>	the bulls want to break every piece of china in the shop.
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Jan 21 11:40:56 <Korbman>	ha, seems so
Jan 21 11:41:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.1432 = 1.432 BTC [-]
Jan 21 11:42:08 <jurov>	if it goes only up, it won't be such a bit problem, maybe bonds pay only a half of MPBOR
Jan 21 11:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	so whats new
Jan 21 11:43:03 <jurov>	but if it decides to swing to, say, 13, now that would be a problem
Jan 21 11:43:56 <jurov>	mircea, bitcoinica is shipping
Jan 21 11:44:06 <jurov>	..er...mixed that up :/
Jan 21 11:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 21 11:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	shipping what ?
Jan 21 11:45:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 21 11:45:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.75000, Best ask: 16.77669, Bid-ask spread: 0.02669, Last trade: 16.75000, 24 hour volume: 54418.34696679, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.98000, 24 hour vwap: 16.21918
Jan 21 11:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	whoa nelly
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Jan 21 11:47:54 <jcpham>	avalon
Jan 21 11:48:14 <jcpham>	2 units shipped over the weekend: one to jgarzik, one to bitcoin foundation
Jan 21 11:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	o, they really shipped ? linx ?
Jan 21 11:48:22 <jcpham>	i assume 300 more to random miners
Jan 21 11:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	yaya , but did either confirm ?
Jan 21 11:48:32 <jcpham>	not yet to my knowlege
Jan 21 11:48:44 <mircea_popescu>	well that'sd where it was friday :p
Jan 21 11:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	btw, you people about ready to enter your ruling ?
Jan 21 11:49:06 <jcpham>	pigeons
Jan 21 11:49:22 <jcpham>	rassah
Jan 21 11:49:40 <jcpham>	i think i deserve the 140BTC or so
Jan 21 11:49:44 <jcpham>	i've been thinking on it
Jan 21 11:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 21 11:50:08 <jcpham>	i only need to convince one other judge of the same
Jan 21 11:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100909.msg1467772#msg1467772
Jan 21 11:50:15 <mircea_popescu>	his meds are not work :(
Jan 21 11:50:59 *	EskimoBob_afk is now known as EskimoBob
Jan 21 11:53:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [+]
Jan 21 11:54:06 <jcpham>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
Jan 21 11:54:17 <EskimoBob>	"convince one other judge" - lol, looks like those judges are just sock puppets
Jan 21 11:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	R	Company	Sales/mth  	$ Profit/yr  	BTC Profit/yr  	Industry	link
Jan 21 11:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	1	MtGox	$ 14M	$ 3.2M	200k	Exchange	-
Jan 21 11:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	dude srsly ?!  mtgox clears 200k btc a year ?
Jan 21 11:54:34 <jcpham>	EskimoBob go fuck yourself that was a joke
Jan 21 11:54:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00060007 = 3.8705 BTC [+]
Jan 21 11:55:06 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu in the last post it looks like the signature line is cut off:
Jan 21 11:55:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.1432 = 1.432 BTC [-]
Jan 21 11:55:27 <jcpham>	line starts like: HBNlxhUDnEKbMl1p082ergE+ekRZINRmr12/DpZQy0sODhxGTE40HukSnPL+mQDDy8yg+bjQb
Jan 21 11:55:30 <jcpham>	but that's all i get
Jan 21 11:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	Signature: HBNlxhUDnEKbMl1p082ergE+ekRZINRmr12/DpZQy0sODhxGTE40HukSnPL+mQDDy8yg+bjQblA+NsJeI3XyoEs=
Jan 21 11:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	is what i see
Jan 21 11:55:45 <jcpham>	I believe I need to verify that. thanks
Jan 21 11:57:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17867 @ 0.00060823 = 10.8672 BTC [+]
Jan 21 11:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00060823 = 1.6422 BTC [+]
Jan 21 11:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00060823 = 2.6154 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 12:04:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00060558 = 1.1809 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:04:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22552 @ 0.00059978 = 13.5262 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:04:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3498 @ 0.00059924 = 2.0961 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 12:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 777 @ 0.04160326 = 32.3257 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 12:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00059924 = 8.689 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:27:13 <pigeons>	EskimoBob: i nominated jcpham because he would be less likely to be viewed as a sock puppet than kako who is a business partner of mp and i know smickles has done deals with him too
Jan 21 12:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6152 @ 0.00059924 = 3.6865 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27628 @ 0.00059908 = 16.5514 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:27:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00059845 = 11.3107 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:27:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10670 @ 0.0005984 = 6.3849 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:27:41 <pigeons>	EskimoBob: and jcpham is talking about convincing one other judge to rule against MP, which doesnt seem to need any convincing anytwasy
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Jan 21 12:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	omgwhat conspiraci si this ?!
Jan 21 12:28:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0055 = 0.055 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 12:29:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1432 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:31:07 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu the rota has decided to rip you off
Jan 21 12:31:17 <jcpham>	i hope you are happy :)
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Jan 21 12:31:21 <Bugpowder>	I estimate Mtgox only makes 100,000 BTC /year
Jan 21 12:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	i call shenanigans
Jan 21 12:31:28 <jcpham>	lol
Jan 21 12:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder iirc they made a loss in 2010
Jan 21 12:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 756 @ 0.0052 = 3.9312 BTC [+]
Jan 21 12:31:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 244 @ 0.00516178 = 1.2595 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:31:38 <Bugpowder>	that was a long time ago
Jan 21 12:31:40 <mircea_popescu>	and their 2011 report showed a modest recovery
Jan 21 12:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	but still overal in the hole.
Jan 21 12:31:52 <Bugpowder>	1M coins a month
Jan 21 12:31:55 <Bugpowder>	traded
Jan 21 12:32:13 <Bugpowder>	0.6-1.2% fee
Jan 21 12:32:17 <Bugpowder>	per trade
Jan 21 12:32:29 <Bugpowder>	so 100k bitcoins in revenue
Jan 21 12:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i just go by the reports they publish
Jan 21 12:32:40 <mircea_popescu>	you saw those ?
Jan 21 12:32:48 <Bugpowder>	nop
Jan 21 12:32:53 <mircea_popescu>	lemme dig up
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Jan 21 12:35:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.0005984 = 7.121 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 12:37:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122 @ 0.00060823 = 0.0742 BTC [+]
Jan 21 12:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8667 @ 0.00061217 = 5.3057 BTC [+]
Jan 21 12:37:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3388 @ 0.00061302 = 2.0769 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 12:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder https://mtgox.com/img/pdf/20120201/Transparency_Jan.pdf 2011 one
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Jan 21 12:38:14 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu does payment for the rota come from the fees paid by the claimant and defendant (you)
Jan 21 12:38:19 <jcpham>	or was this the intention or not
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Jan 21 12:38:48 <jcpham>	we are unsure if we should we should pay ourselves from the fees
Jan 21 12:38:55 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham each party pays 10 btc, for a total of 20.
Jan 21 12:38:59 <jcpham>	which might seem greedy but i'll ask it
Jan 21 12:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	the prevailing party gets up to 10 btc back (depending what % of their claim is granted)
Jan 21 12:39:16 <jcpham>	are we to judge our own dsalary is my question
Jan 21 12:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	the losing party gets nothing. the judges get 3 btc each.
Jan 21 12:39:17 <Bugpowder>	How much of their $50,000 / month operating costs is salaries to the owner
Jan 21 12:39:21 <Bugpowder>	?
Jan 21 12:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	nah, the judges get the salary no matter what.
Jan 21 12:39:26 <jcpham>	i see
Jan 21 12:39:33 <jcpham>	ok understood
Jan 21 12:39:35 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder nothing afaik.
Jan 21 12:40:20 <Bugpowder>	They say their server costs are $5,000 / mo
Jan 21 12:40:27 <Bugpowder>	where is the other $45k / mo going?
Jan 21 12:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder they have something like 5 employees
Jan 21 12:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	in japan this costs a little bit of money
Jan 21 12:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	they have a 3 room office
Jan 21 12:41:01 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 21 12:41:03 <Bugpowder>	salaries
Jan 21 12:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	in a not so great part of town, but anyway
Jan 21 12:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	japan is expensive throughout
Jan 21 12:41:20 <Bugpowder>	Also its 50k btc + $350k
Jan 21 12:41:36 <Bugpowder>	revenue
Jan 21 12:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	they also took angel funding in 2010ish
Jan 21 12:41:59 <Bugpowder>	yeah but that is equity
Jan 21 12:42:15 <Bugpowder>	They pay out the revenue to employee salary most likely
Jan 21 12:42:24 <Bugpowder>	CEO makes 100-150k
Jan 21 12:42:26 <Bugpowder>	$
Jan 21 12:42:28 <Bugpowder>	guessing
Jan 21 12:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	you know how cosanguine these things get
Jan 21 12:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	angel gets employed etc
Jan 21 12:42:51 <Bugpowder>	Angel should not have more than 20% equity
Jan 21 12:43:26 <Bugpowder>	we don't know the terms of course
Jan 21 12:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	they were never released, no.
Jan 21 12:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	are you up to speed with their op history atall ?
Jan 21 12:44:34 <Bugpowder>	I started paying attention to btc when it hit $7 the first time
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Jan 21 12:44:49 <Bugpowder>	I know about the hack and crash
Jan 21 12:44:57 <Bugpowder>	but not much else
Jan 21 12:45:07 <Bugpowder>	Only had a gox account for about a year
Jan 21 12:46:18 <Bugpowder>	maybe 18 months
Jan 21 12:46:20 <Bugpowder>	i don't remember
Jan 21 12:46:57 <Bugpowder>	1 year
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Jan 21 12:50:40 <mircea_popescu>	well anyway, originalyl site started by some guy in the us
Jan 21 12:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	who then got cold feet and wanted out
Jan 21 12:50:50 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 21 12:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	gave the site away practically to the current team
Jan 21 12:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	then hacked into it and stole some moneyz lol
Jan 21 12:51:06 <Bugpowder>	oops
Jan 21 12:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	(that was the "auditor" )
Jan 21 12:51:48 <Bugpowder>	den of thieves, bitcoin is.
Jan 21 12:52:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 98 @ 0.0089 = 0.8722 BTC [+]
Jan 21 12:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6265 @ 0.00060205 = 3.7718 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	kinda primitive relationships, at least historically.
Jan 21 12:54:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 14 @ 0.009 = 0.126 BTC [+]
Jan 21 12:59:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5685 @ 0.0005984 = 3.4019 BTC [-]
Jan 21 12:59:33 <jurov_>	mircea_popescu, primitive as opposed to what ?
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Jan 21 13:00:04 <jurov_>	to the wannabe Rule Of Law irl?
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Jan 21 13:00:18 <mircea_popescu>	jurov_ relationships based on tribal structures rather than flow of capital, law and ownership
Jan 21 13:03:44 <jurov>	and how would that happen? as long as majority of players are anonymous, there is no real incentive to follow the law
Jan 21 13:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.0005984 = 13.464 BTC [-]
Jan 21 13:04:09 <Bugpowder>	BURNING MAN
Jan 21 13:04:48 <jurov>	i tried to reconcile that when i thought about the gpg story, but no. people just are dishonorable thieves when they can.
Jan 21 13:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	eh, i doubt that.
Jan 21 13:06:20 <mircea_popescu>	for most of history people could be dishonorable thieves and mostly were not.
Jan 21 13:06:35 <mircea_popescu>	i think this is a convenient statal lie, to justify the historically incredible levels of taxation.
Jan 21 13:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1017 @ 0.00060205 = 0.6123 BTC [+]
Jan 21 13:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8217 @ 0.00060947 = 5.008 BTC [+]
Jan 21 13:07:40 <jurov>	then why the first reaction to state failure is often looting?
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Jan 21 13:08:43 <jurov>	don't know if it's true but i heard in romania even central heating equipment was stolen in some places
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Jan 21 13:08:50 <jurov>	when communist regime fell
Jan 21 13:08:54 <mircea_popescu>	for the same reason takling away the prop of a tree leads to tree colapsing
Jan 21 13:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	this doesn't prove trees can't grow on their own trunks
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Jan 21 13:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	it just proves propping them is a bad idea.
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Jan 21 13:12:34 <jurov>	i don't see how the argument relates.. it was not like something completely vital was removed during the '89 revolution
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Jan 21 13:13:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00533727 = 3.2024 BTC [+]
Jan 21 13:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	something completely vital was removed for the red decades
Jan 21 13:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	replaced with a stupid barely functional ersatz
Jan 21 13:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	once the ersatz collapsed the impression was that there's something missing.
Jan 21 13:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7667 @ 0.00060947 = 4.6728 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 13:22:44 <jurov>	lol, show me any significant group of people that can exist outside of state without "impression that there's something missing"
Jan 21 13:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	ever been in a mining colony ?
Jan 21 13:23:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.34 = 1.36 BTC [+]
Jan 21 13:23:57 <jurov>	no, why?
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Jan 21 13:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	well cause it'd be a ready example.
Jan 21 13:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	any small village works, too.
Jan 21 13:25:44 <jurov>	yes, provided there are no armed groups roaming the landscape
Jan 21 13:26:04 <jurov>	last 60 years in europe are an exception in this regard
Jan 21 13:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	how about the old west ?
Jan 21 13:26:41 <jurov>	what is old west?
Jan 21 13:27:55 <jurov>	you mean in america?
Jan 21 13:28:28 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Jan 21 13:29:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.0005984 = 1.2866 BTC [-]
Jan 21 13:33:11 <jurov>	good example. it mostly appeared to work cause there was no competition for food/land...
Jan 21 13:33:25 <jurov>	but maybe at expense to slaves/natives
Jan 21 13:34:06 <jurov>	i don't know 'merica history, dunno how many people were actually violently killed there
Jan 21 13:34:19 <Korbman>	millions
Jan 21 13:34:23 <jurov>	just got the feeling that ability to call 911 was welcomed even there
Jan 21 13:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00059841 = 3.5905 BTC [+]
Jan 21 13:34:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.0005984 = 9.365 BTC [-]
Jan 21 13:36:09 <pigeons>	911 is a joke in you town
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Jan 21 13:37:48 <mircea_popescu>	no competition for food/land ?!
Jan 21 13:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	my very dear boy!
Jan 21 13:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	the us was built on competition for food and land.
Jan 21 13:38:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [-]
Jan 21 13:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	what do you think made barbed wire such a commercial success
Jan 21 13:38:46 <jurov>	barbed wire? used in american old west? you lost me again
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Jan 21 13:40:02 <dub>	missed the start of this conversation
Jan 21 13:40:19 <dub>	but the problem with humans is we are naturally peices of shit
Jan 21 13:40:38 <jurov>	i'd say yurp built on competition for food and land... when it got unbearable, everyone went to us since it was supposedly much better there
Jan 21 13:40:44 <dub>	once you put enough of us in close proximity we will rob rape and kill each other
Jan 21 13:41:00 <jcpham>	especially if food is in short supply
Jan 21 13:41:01 <dub>	which means you need some policing which implies a state
Jan 21 13:41:08 <dub>	even when its not
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Jan 21 13:41:41 <jcpham>	if you force me to live in close proximity with people
Jan 21 13:42:02 <jcpham>	i would probably attempt to dominate my peers or control them
Jan 21 13:42:38 <jcpham>	C cup and larger against that wall
Jan 21 13:42:46 <jcpham>	strong men over here against this wall
Jan 21 13:42:52 <dub>	well, _you_ would because of your conditioning, that success must be at teh expense of your peers
Jan 21 13:43:09 <jcpham>	yes i am a shit
Jan 21 13:43:11 <jcpham>	i admit it
Jan 21 13:43:28 <jcpham>	everyone would be a resource for me to assign
Jan 21 13:43:35 <dub>	even without our existing societal fuck up, humans cannot coexist en masse
Jan 21 13:44:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3999 BTC [-]
Jan 21 13:44:57 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham the dispute of cattle vs farm was settled by barbed wire
Jan 21 13:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	more efficient than the other party's weaponry.
Jan 21 13:45:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.4 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Jan 21 13:45:26 <jcpham>	the 'ol fence trick, eh?
Jan 21 13:45:38 <jcpham>	round 'em up and stick them in a fence?
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Jan 21 13:47:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [+]
Jan 21 13:47:00 <jurov>	anyway, i think when i'd pick random person that lived 60 to 6000 years ago and  explained about how oppressive is the modern state i currently live in
Jan 21 13:47:18 <jurov>	i'd get unbelieving stare, perhaps
Jan 21 13:49:16 <jurov>	not that it can't be improved... but removing it completely, srsly?
Jan 21 13:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Jan 21 13:50:12 <jcpham>	removing a lot of these societal structures implies a lot of death
Jan 21 13:50:25 <pigeons>	well, at least whining
Jan 21 13:50:36 <jcpham>	not whining!
Jan 21 13:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	listen, killing someione is not the trivial matter it appears to be in video games.
Jan 21 13:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	even if given free reign to kill anyone at any time most people couldn't be arsed.
Jan 21 13:51:05 <jurov>	lol, maybe he'd agree that inability to treat wives as property is kinda oppressing :DDD
Jan 21 13:51:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 5 @ 0.15725077 = 0.7863 BTC [+]
Jan 21 13:51:42 <jcpham>	i mean death as in people who cannot provide for themselves
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Jan 21 13:51:47 <jcpham>	without society and technology
Jan 21 13:52:04 <jcpham>	and who will surely waste away or be overtaken by others
Jan 21 13:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	or learn to suck cock, and do it well.
Jan 21 13:52:20 <jcpham>	yikes
Jan 21 13:52:24 <jcpham>	true story though
Jan 21 13:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	there's nothing wrong with giving good head.
Jan 21 13:52:40 <pigeons>	well, or else people who want to help "people who cannot provide for themselves" won't have GovCo in the way and can help them
Jan 21 13:52:55 <jcpham>	if we all were required to produce something to be usefull, many of us might be in trouble
Jan 21 13:53:13 <jcpham>	assume you have an alotment of fresh air
Jan 21 13:53:27 <jcpham>	that costs some personal production
Jan 21 13:53:38 <jcpham>	you want to breathe, contribute.
Jan 21 13:54:04 <jcpham>	i'm telling you fresh water futures and clean air
Jan 21 13:54:12 <jcpham>	someone will mop up one day
Jan 21 13:54:32 <pigeons>	first we need to get rid of that meddling lorax
Jan 21 13:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i doubt mpoe-pr would have much trouble.
Jan 21 13:54:52 <jurov>	jcpham, funnily enough that was a communist idea that everyone must be employed and producing
Jan 21 13:55:11 <jcpham>	i somewhat agree with it
Jan 21 13:55:30 <dub>	the hilarious thing about libertarians and anti-state crowd
Jan 21 13:55:31 <jcpham>	the worls is full of producers and consumers
Jan 21 13:55:43 <jcpham>	consumers far far far outweigh producers
Jan 21 13:56:28 <dub>	is the root of it is they think that because they are a beautiful and unique snowflake they will somehow do a better job than 'the state'
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Jan 21 13:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	dub indeed :D
Jan 21 13:57:05 <dub>	when its that inherently selfish nature of humanity that is the reason we need it
Jan 21 13:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	after all, they're smart enough to have figured it out first!
Jan 21 13:57:42 <jcpham>	i agree that i am an entirely selfish human
Jan 21 13:57:49 <jcpham>	much more so now that i have a fmily
Jan 21 13:57:53 <dub>	you are human
Jan 21 13:58:08 <dub>	its a human trait, you don't own it you selfish bastard
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Jan 21 13:58:20 <dub>	:)
Jan 21 13:58:23 <mircea_popescu>	fuck you dub its all mine
Jan 21 13:58:28 <jcpham>	i am the only one
Jan 21 13:58:33 <jcpham>	you both are lying
Jan 21 13:58:39 <dub>	I AM THE ONLY SELFISH ONE< YOU WILL DIE NOW
Jan 21 13:58:57 <dub>	brb loading my ar15
Jan 21 13:59:01 <jcpham>	how can we bet on this now?
Jan 21 13:59:11 <jcpham>	can we make a selfishness bet
Jan 21 13:59:19 <mircea_popescu>	no you can't
Jan 21 13:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	because i made it
Jan 21 13:59:27 <jcpham>	damn
Jan 21 13:59:37 <dub>	I have a good one, by 2050 there will be less than half as many humans as today
Jan 21 13:59:48 <dub>	that wil prove it nicely
Jan 21 14:00:40 <dub>	and if we are around to collect, well we already won so we wont need to
Jan 21 14:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	i will personally impregnate a billionty womenz to win this bet.
Jan 21 14:01:48 <mircea_popescu>	me and micon
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Jan 21 14:02:32 <iz>	dub: ever heard of the prisoner's dilemma?
Jan 21 14:03:07 <iz>	in a non-zero sum game, the "selfish" move also helps everyone else
Jan 21 14:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	isthat nonzero or above zero ?
Jan 21 14:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	omfg what bs ruling is this.
Jan 21 14:04:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.0053558 = 9.3727 BTC [+]
Jan 21 14:04:49 <jcpham>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma
Jan 21 14:04:55 <jcpham>	ahhh philosophy 101
Jan 21 14:05:05 <jcpham>	ethics even
Jan 21 14:05:07 <iz>	it means that hurting your opponent doesn't help you.. that's non-zero sum
Jan 21 14:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham pigeons i hope you realise the net result of this will simply be me putting it in the faq that i will keep all misrouted funds and fu.
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Jan 21 14:05:39 <iz>	games like chess or checkers, are zero sum, where hurting your opponent directly helps you
Jan 21 14:05:41 <jcpham>	pigeons you see that
Jan 21 14:05:57 <iz>	it's not above zero, below zero, or zero
Jan 21 14:06:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2075 @ 0.0053558 = 11.1133 BTC [+]
Jan 21 14:06:46 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu is our judgement not "fair"
Jan 21 14:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	it's particularly dumb, in that it allows idiots to extract money from me now.
Jan 21 14:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	send 100 btc, sue, get 110 back lalala
Jan 21 14:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	so no, this is the last case on this topic.
Jan 21 14:07:42 <jcpham>	so 20 btc in "fees"
Jan 21 14:07:49 <jcpham>	9 to judges leaving 11
Jan 21 14:08:02 <jcpham>	fair is to split the 11btc
Jan 21 14:08:09 <jcpham>	or not pay the rota?
Jan 21 14:08:17 <jcpham>	it is confusing
Jan 21 14:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Jan 21 14:08:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC
Jan 21 14:09:47 <jcpham>	now you can just tell everyone the orta sucks
Jan 21 14:09:54 <jcpham>	we are all just scamsters
Jan 21 14:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	pretty mcuh lol. "too soon"
Jan 21 14:10:40 <jcpham>	i'd also be willing to forego payment to make the situation "correct"
Jan 21 14:10:48 <jcpham>	didn't seem like an avaialble option though
Jan 21 14:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	forego payment, what bs is that.
Jan 21 14:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	you don't forego payment. fucking up has costs.
Jan 21 14:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	you just allocated the cost of fucking up to me, and i'm not the one who fucked up.
Jan 21 14:11:33 <jcpham>	that's just me i'm speaking for
Jan 21 14:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	this is fucked up.
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Jan 21 14:12:21 <jcpham>	if you send me a bill for your losses i can make payments until you recover fully
Jan 21 14:12:38 <mod6>	wat
Jan 21 14:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 21 14:12:51 *	mod6 scratches head
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Jan 21 14:13:08 <mod6>	this is the dumbest ruling in virtual case law
Jan 21 14:13:21 <mod6>	lol
Jan 21 14:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	also the first.
Jan 21 14:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	funny how that works 0.0
Jan 21 14:13:36 <mod6>	ikr
Jan 21 14:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it at least proves they be independent ninnies.
Jan 21 14:14:03 <jcpham>	i think mre preparation or organization is required
Jan 21 14:14:10 *	jcpham feels like a failure
Jan 21 14:14:18 <mod6>	you guys need to think about what you're doing
Jan 21 14:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	dawg, independence is this concept whereby people think autonomously
Jan 21 14:14:25 <mod6>	christ on a pony
Jan 21 14:15:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00534198 = 2.671 BTC [-]
Jan 21 14:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00534197 = 4.5407 BTC [-]
Jan 21 14:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1446 @ 0.00524041 = 7.5776 BTC [-]
Jan 21 14:15:17 <jcpham>	i suppose it is too late now
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Jan 21 14:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9684 @ 0.00060947 = 5.9021 BTC [+]
Jan 21 14:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11366 @ 0.00060971 = 6.93 BTC [+]
Jan 21 14:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	it wouldn't be drama if it weren't too late.
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Jan 21 14:19:33 <jurov>	whatever. i was organizing international summercamp, bank asked us the fee to sort out payments with incomplete info
Jan 21 14:19:35 <jurov>	not them
Jan 21 14:19:52 <jurov>	i doubt if i'd get anything if we sued
Jan 21 14:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	right. cause the bank won't do the insane sort of shit i do
Jan 21 14:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	cause it knows better
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Jan 21 14:21:47 <mod6>	what a bunch of asshats
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Jan 21 14:23:55 <jcpham>	fwiw i started to penalize you both equally
Jan 21 14:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	because why ?
Jan 21 14:24:05 <jcpham>	for making me work
Jan 21 14:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 21 14:24:18 <mod6>	omfg why did you ask to do this?!?!?!
Jan 21 14:24:49 <jcpham>	jesus told me to apply
Jan 21 14:24:55 <mod6>	of course he did
Jan 21 14:24:57 *	mod6 rage
Jan 21 14:25:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 21 14:25:14 <jcpham>	why are you upset mod6
Jan 21 14:25:27 <mircea_popescu>	ima hold rota entrance exams, consisting of reciting cicero and laurian in latin
Jan 21 14:25:35 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu will keep the funds in the future
Jan 21 14:25:42 <jcpham>	so he won't even need the rota
Jan 21 14:26:05 <jcpham>	seems like a win-win for a few btc
Jan 21 14:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	ya, but i'll send all complainants to haunt  you
Jan 21 14:26:24 <jcpham>	we figured that...
Jan 21 14:26:31 <jcpham>	sortof an early precednet
Jan 21 14:27:20 <jcpham>	hopefully I won'r be nominated anymore because i'm just insane
Jan 21 14:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10284 @ 0.00060971 = 6.2703 BTC [+]
Jan 21 14:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4766 @ 0.00061235 = 2.9185 BTC [+]
Jan 21 14:29:45 <jurov>	bah, "judges"  nobody asked about the "mispaid/rounded orders create significant overhead"?
Jan 21 14:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	no cause they are from occupy movement.
Jan 21 14:30:23 <jurov>	like, is it so significant as to justfy keeping whole amount?
Jan 21 14:31:04 <jurov>	occupy? now it's clear to me.
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Jan 21 14:32:02 <jcpham>	occupy movement..... huh
Jan 21 14:33:39 <mircea_popescu>	you know, the people who hate financial instutions
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Jan 21 14:34:37 <jurov>	jcpham, do ask, i'm curious. maybe the overhead includes doing something interesting with the bitches
Jan 21 14:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 21 14:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7785 @ 0.00060287 = 4.6933 BTC [-]
Jan 21 14:35:57 <mod6>	(11:25) < mircea_popescu> ima hold rota entrance exams, consisting of reciting cicero and laurian in latin
Jan 21 14:36:00 <mod6>	this is a must
Jan 21 14:36:16 <mod6>	otherwise this just creates way more problems then it solves
Jan 21 14:36:29 <mod6>	we can't have these dunderhead rulings being created when people have no idea what they're even doing
Jan 21 14:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	<mod6> otherwise this just creates way more problems then it solves << i am grasped by sudden terror at the realisation of that, yes.
Jan 21 14:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	somehow i just never foresaw this one.
Jan 21 14:37:10 <mod6>	rip it up and start again
Jan 21 14:37:45 <mircea_popescu>	im not doing anything today.
Jan 21 14:38:08 <mod6>	im srsly irk'd by this
Jan 21 14:38:13 <mircea_popescu>	why lol
Jan 21 14:39:31 <mod6>	the plaintiff fucked up.  his funds should be returned minus fees. nothing more.
Jan 21 14:39:36 <dub>	who initiated the rota action?
Jan 21 14:39:36 <mod6>	nothing less. this is idiotic.
Jan 21 14:39:43 <dub>	oh the plaintiff
Jan 21 14:39:44 <pigeons>	yeah i wanted punititve damages against mircea_popescu for wasting our time, using the rota as a promotion, and forcing customers to sue him just to get typical service
Jan 21 14:39:46 <dub>	is the fuckup guy
Jan 21 14:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 934 @ 0.00061235 = 0.5719 BTC [+]
Jan 21 14:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16495 @ 0.00061302 = 10.1118 BTC [+]
Jan 21 14:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons yeah well, you sorta misunderstand what this is all for.
Jan 21 14:40:28 <jcpham>	possibly
Jan 21 14:40:53 <mod6>	i really thought the court was a great idea, actually. now i just see that we don't have the foresight/legal wisdom to carry it out
Jan 21 14:41:09 <kakobrekla>	like the real judged do.
Jan 21 14:41:15 <kakobrekla>	judges
Jan 21 14:41:24 <mod6>	this is more important then that is
Jan 21 14:41:37 <mod6>	that still will be over in the not too distant future, this is the future
Jan 21 14:41:44 <jcpham>	what good is talking going to do now
Jan 21 14:41:50 <jcpham>	if i'm not allowed to change anything
Jan 21 14:42:05 <jcpham>	i mean, I don't like the format myself
Jan 21 14:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham cause you get to feel bad about it
Jan 21 14:42:13 <jcpham>	the blog posting and whatnjot
Jan 21 14:42:23 <dub>	sorry why was the rota engaged?
Jan 21 14:42:34 <pigeons>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
Jan 21 14:42:36 <dub>	dude sent wrong amount, it seemed like mircea_popescu was trying to help him sort it out
Jan 21 14:42:37 <jcpham>	i'm not feeling mad, I'm feeling as if I disappointed someone
Jan 21 14:42:54 <dub>	did he then demand rota justice or did mircea_popescu
Jan 21 14:42:55 <jcpham>	regardless, someone was going to get disappointed
Jan 21 14:43:22 <pigeons>	it was engaged because instead of mircea_popescu just being a normal human, he used a customer service case to not fix the issue so he could force his customer to sue him to get justice, just so he could promote his rota
Jan 21 14:43:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.00100013 = 5.0007 BTC [+]
Jan 21 14:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.00100012 = 1.0001 BTC [-]
Jan 21 14:43:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 230 @ 0.00100011 = 0.23 BTC [-]
Jan 21 14:43:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0010001 = 0.5001 BTC [-]
Jan 21 14:43:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00100009 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Jan 21 14:43:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 770 @ 0.00100006 = 0.77 BTC [-]
Jan 21 14:43:45 <jcpham>	which is fine by me and we obviously did a bad job
Jan 21 14:43:59 <jurov>	like, it's totally the mission of a judge to please everyone
Jan 21 14:44:04 <jcpham>	so what's the point now? to learn from it
Jan 21 14:44:04 <dub>	yeah you did tbh
Jan 21 14:44:11 <jcpham>	or just get shit on
Jan 21 14:44:36 <jcpham>	FWIW i 'm not seeing any volunteers
Jan 21 14:44:48 <jcpham>	you have about 11 months to get your shit together
Jan 21 14:45:05 <dub>	its obviously the guys fault but forcing the rota to deal with it is not good for either rota or mpex imo
Jan 21 14:45:06 <pigeons>	if you are going to make a point that people can use your rota and it is a good alternative dispute method, forcing the issue on something like this when you just should have credited the dide without all the hassle is shitty
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Jan 21 14:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i should have credited the dude w/o the hassle ?
Jan 21 14:45:33 <jurov>	pigeons, it would be good if you included the reasoning in your judgement
Jan 21 14:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	he's absolutely the last guy who sends ANY ammt to mpex and gets crtedited.
Jan 21 14:45:43 <pigeons>	my reasoning was included,
Jan 21 14:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	that's a certainty.
Jan 21 14:45:55 <pigeons>	"MPex does disclaim responsibility for customer errors in depositing, but correcting this error is a reasonable part of fiduciary duty."
Jan 21 14:46:00 <jcpham>	the problem is the fees, not the deposit
Jan 21 14:46:08 <jcpham>	that's where the uncertainty is
Jan 21 14:46:18 <jcpham>	to me, the fee is negligible given the deposit amount
Jan 21 14:46:27 <dub>	what fees?
Jan 21 14:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	how;s the relation relevant ?
Jan 21 14:46:35 <pigeons>	i wanted to include that i thought the rota was a good idea and didnt expect mircea_popescu would pt barnum it
Jan 21 14:46:38 <jcpham>	but i see now it is not negligble at al
Jan 21 14:46:53 <jcpham>	the fee is just a bonus
Jan 21 14:47:05 <jcpham>	we're talking about .00005 at max bitcoin transaction
Jan 21 14:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons the reason nobody was using it was (i understand now) the justified fear that people are not equipped to judge.
Jan 21 14:47:12 <jcpham>	in fees for the 130 btc
Jan 21 14:47:17 <mircea_popescu>	sadly this was proven true, luckily it was proven true on a modest case of little import.
Jan 21 14:47:20 <jcpham>	for all the ORTA fees are just icing on the cake
Jan 21 14:47:37 <dub>	so does MP get the neg rating?
Jan 21 14:47:42 <jcpham>	the 20 btc in fees is icing on the cake for someone
Jan 21 14:47:45 <jcpham>	it always will be
Jan 21 14:47:49 <dub>	or just the 100btc loss
Jan 21 14:47:54 <dub>	130*
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Jan 21 14:48:04 <pigeons>	jcpham: explain the fees thing
Jan 21 14:48:27 <jcpham>	so we think or we know it was his funds and we decide to return the funds
Jan 21 14:48:43 <jcpham>	straight away once that decision is made, the fess are what decides everything
Jan 21 14:48:51 <jcpham>	the fee split
Jan 21 14:48:53 <pigeons>	i know it says dont fuck up your deposits, and im careful cause i know mircea_popescu will keep it, but if he's gonna use this to try to push his rota, well fact is it is a breach of fiduciary duty it is totally reasonable to fix this when shown proof
Jan 21 14:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	i was considering doing that, yes.
Jan 21 14:49:31 <jcpham>	also the whole fiduciary duty claim is only relevant given non-refund
Jan 21 14:49:37 <mircea_popescu>	but i'm not happy with how it works, so i won't do it in the future.
Jan 21 14:49:39 <dub>	mircea_popescu: what changed?
Jan 21 14:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	dub about what ?
Jan 21 14:49:59 <jcpham>	so assume we determine the funds to be his, and we also determine that funds will be returned, there is no breach
Jan 21 14:50:03 <dub>	about considering refunding him if/when shown proof
Jan 21 14:50:14 <pigeons>	jcpham: no
Jan 21 14:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	dub historically if you sent the wrong amt you're fucked.
Jan 21 14:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	i was considering changing this policy, via the rota.
Jan 21 14:50:33 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu could have settled with the guy then there was no breach
Jan 21 14:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	it failed to work, so i'm going back to what historically worked very well.
Jan 21 14:50:44 <dub>	mircea_popescu: I don't understand how the rota could change that, its your policy
Jan 21 14:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	i was considering relaxing it.
Jan 21 14:50:56 <pigeons>	but mircea_popescu forced him to sue cause mircea_popescu wanted to promote his rota, and we are his pawns in that
Jan 21 14:51:00 <dub>	the rota is a binary decision maker, not a policy generating device
Jan 21 14:51:01 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu did wences ask for his money back
Jan 21 14:51:06 <jcpham>	i assumed that he DID NOT
Jan 21 14:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	surely.
Jan 21 14:51:23 <jcpham>	i see
Jan 21 14:51:26 <jcpham>	my ruling stands
Jan 21 14:51:42 <jcpham>	i'm not discussing this anymore
Jan 21 14:51:53 <pigeons>	we are a cheap customer service department for him
Jan 21 14:51:56 <dub>	I don;t understand how it went from trying to help the guy to rota
Jan 21 14:52:04 <jcpham>	see pigeons
Jan 21 14:52:06 <jurov>	pigeons, did you ask about logs between mircea and wences? to confirm if mircea forced him to sue ?
Jan 21 14:52:16 <jurov>	or it's just your assumption?
Jan 21 14:52:18 <jcpham>	good point jurov
Jan 21 14:52:28 <jcpham>	now i know that i need to interrogate everyone
Jan 21 14:52:28 <pigeons>	jurov: i asked mircea_popescu
Jan 21 14:52:50 <pigeons>	it is also in the comments on the general rota post
Jan 21 14:53:17 <pigeons>	changing the policy via the rota?
Jan 21 14:53:17 <jcpham>	it was understanding that the parties didn't try to resolve it amicably - straight to rota, no discussion
Jan 21 14:53:35 <jcpham>	now that i know discussion came before the rota case
Jan 21 14:53:39 <pigeons>	no, mircea_popescu coached wences on how to format his claim
Jan 21 14:53:42 <jcpham>	i'm much more firm in my decison
Jan 21 14:54:01 <jcpham>	fucking precedent or not
Jan 21 14:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons wait, what's the problem with that exactly ?
Jan 21 14:54:41 <pigeons>	i didnt mind the keep your money policy too much but he made him bring this case, and no way i can find that it is reasonable in this instance
Jan 21 14:55:16 <dub>	it makes no sense if that is true
Jan 21 14:55:19 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: the problem is this isn't an organic dispute, you would have paid the guy, but you decided if you made him go through the rota you would get publicity for it
Jan 21 14:55:29 <mircea_popescu>	no, actually, i wouldn't have paid the guy.
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Jan 21 14:55:50 <pigeons>	ok then the rota did its job
Jan 21 14:55:54 <pigeons>	yay rota
Jan 21 14:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	*shrug*
Jan 21 14:56:10 <dub>	mircea_popescu: it says in your sumbission that you would be prepared to pay him
Jan 21 14:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	since he sued.
Jan 21 14:56:34 <pigeons>	i thought mircea_popescu's submission was an offer to settle without going through this, but when i spoke with him he said no
Jan 21 14:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	next time someone tries that i'll just ignore it and that's the end of  that story.
Jan 21 14:56:48 <jcpham>	problem solved.
Jan 21 14:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	basically yay rota, it managed to lock itself out of pretty much the only subject matter anyone thought it worthy of considering
Jan 21 14:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 39 @ 0.53 = 20.67 BTC [-]
Jan 21 14:57:03 <dub>	mircea_popescu: that doesnt make an sense, your policy is that he would not be refunded, why would that change during a rota case?
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Jan 21 14:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	not entirely sure if that means it'll just die in a corner somewhere, but seems quite likely.
Jan 21 14:57:21 <pigeons>	if rota decided with what you agreed, you would have made it policy
Jan 21 14:57:26 <pigeons>	and used the rota to back your policy
Jan 21 14:57:58 <dub>	I think this is actually a win for mircea_popescu
Jan 21 14:57:59 <pigeons>	but since it decided against you it isnt good policy what the rota decides
Jan 21 14:58:11 <jcpham>	i can't see how it can be a loss
Jan 21 14:58:14 <jcpham>	other than 9btc
Jan 21 14:58:16 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons if it made a reasonable decision it might have i nthe future had more important stuff brought before it.
Jan 21 14:58:18 <pigeons>	of course its a win, he either didnt have to pay, or else his rota gets promted and he pays what he owed
Jan 21 14:58:23 <mircea_popescu>	if it made an unreasonable decision it likely won't.
Jan 21 14:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	hard enough to push the concept as it is, even if we were to believe judges are marginally qualified and someqwhat sane
Jan 21 14:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	if we don't believe either of those it's a dead sell, no matter how hard i push it
Jan 21 14:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	and i don't push dead sells.
Jan 21 14:58:59 <dub>	if the guy had been forced to use the rota and lost, incurring further cost it would be even more of a joke
Jan 21 14:59:02 <pigeons>	well it won't be very useful if its only used for what you bring forward to it
Jan 21 14:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	dude. kids are born toothless
Jan 21 14:59:21 <dub>	wtf is an mpex custoemr service dispute doing in rota
Jan 21 14:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	and they only chew what their parents bring to them
Jan 21 14:59:28 <pigeons>	dub: exactly
Jan 21 14:59:35 <mircea_popescu>	what did you expect, to start by considering a five million btc case ?
Jan 21 14:59:41 <pigeons>	dub: actually, the reason is so he can promote his rota
Jan 21 14:59:54 <dub>	pigeons: then your decision is double wrong
Jan 21 14:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	no. the reason is so that you people can show you can judge.
Jan 21 15:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	it's what's known as an opportunity.
Jan 21 15:00:26 <jcpham>	the only thing i can possibly imagine that we did wrong was split the fees incorrectly
Jan 21 15:00:37 <jcpham>	no one will convince me otherwise
Jan 21 15:00:48 *	mod6 continues to bang head
Jan 21 15:01:03 <dub>	pigeons: 1) because the policy 'wences' agreed to by using mpex is clear and you ruled against that. 2) mpex would have looked a lot worse having forced the use of rota then winning
Jan 21 15:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham that's pretty much it. you allocated the cost of fucking up to the party that didn't fuck up.
Jan 21 15:01:42 <pigeons>	could not make someone pay to get justice
Jan 21 15:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaah
Jan 21 15:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	baby, socialism is for fiat.
Jan 21 15:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	this is btc.
Jan 21 15:03:35 <dub>	I think you caused this by using the rota for something so trivial tbh
Jan 21 15:03:57 <pigeons>	i am very upset this was a rota case
Jan 21 15:04:01 <dub>	next rota case, should I have cornflakes or museli for breakfast
Jan 21 15:04:35 <dub>	so does mircea_popescu get neg rated?
Jan 21 15:05:03 <mircea_popescu>	dub it's unavoidable it will start small.
Jan 21 15:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	people won't risk their money on something untried.
Jan 21 15:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	and in retrospect that is a wise approach.
Jan 21 15:05:20 <dub>	that is what the whole thing is about right? judges donate their reputation to uphold the reputation of others
Jan 21 15:05:27 <pigeons>	dub: he does if he fails to make good on the judgement
Jan 21 15:06:16 <dub>	I see
Jan 21 15:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	whence all this arrogance anwyay ?
Jan 21 15:07:34 <jcpham>	a tx fee and a lot less time could have resolved this
Jan 21 15:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	"something so small
Jan 21 15:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	" ? what bs is that.
Jan 21 15:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	do something small well.
Jan 21 15:08:15 <pigeons>	something small like customer service?
Jan 21 15:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	something small like whatever can be had.
Jan 21 15:08:49 <dub>	mircea_popescu: nah, its a dumb thing for the rota
Jan 21 15:09:05 <mircea_popescu>	you're not part of the scotus, just yet. so, you know, little room to thumb nose.
Jan 21 15:09:08 <dub>	look at the notes in the comments, you are agreeing to reimburse him
Jan 21 15:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	dub yes, it was a simple case.
Jan 21 15:09:40 <dub>	so he got his money back, good result?
Jan 21 15:09:44 <jcpham>	it is the fees, dub
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Jan 21 15:10:04 <jcpham>	there is an idea that the fees represent
Jan 21 15:10:06 <dub>	why is the rulling against you a problem if thats what the rota is for, processing your customer service enquiries
Jan 21 15:10:26 <mircea_popescu>	dub because now any of the judges can start spamming my address with 100 btc payments
Jan 21 15:10:26 <jcpham>	apparently we shit on that idea
Jan 21 15:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	sueing
Jan 21 15:10:31 <pigeons>	it shows that if you expect service from mircea_popescu you better pay to sue him and win
Jan 21 15:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	then getting paid for the process.
Jan 21 15:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	it's a fucking hole.
Jan 21 15:10:55 <dub>	so you wanted to win, then pay him back?
Jan 21 15:10:58 <jcpham>	1) if the claimant paid the funds
Jan 21 15:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	dub the idea was to allocate the win neutrally.
Jan 21 15:11:07 <jcpham>	2) if the claimant can prove ownership of said funds
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Jan 21 15:12:05 <pigeons>	mp paid 9 btc to get his rota promoted and scare people into being more careful depositing because of raised awareness of the hassle of errors
Jan 21 15:12:09 <pigeons>	a bargain
Jan 21 15:12:33 <dub>	mircea_popescu: you appear to agree to return the funds or are at least satisfied with his signing of the message, if you had won the case would have looked even more retarded
Jan 21 15:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	dub : they could have allocated fractional.
Jan 21 15:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons what happens now if you send 100.0 btc, sue, get back 100 + 10 fee + 3 for judging it ?
Jan 21 15:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	am i out 3 btc for each 100 you send ?
Jan 21 15:13:12 <jcpham>	bank.
Jan 21 15:13:15 <jcpham>	that's what
Jan 21 15:13:34 <pigeons>	i dont know mircea_popescu that isnt clear to me
Jan 21 15:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 21 15:13:43 <dub>	^
Jan 21 15:13:44 <pigeons>	where does the 3 come from
Jan 21 15:13:50 <pigeons>	we tried asking
Jan 21 15:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	i thought i answered, but again :
Jan 21 15:13:59 <pigeons>	we thought it came from the looser's 10
Jan 21 15:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	two parties to any trial. each contributes 10 btc, for a total of 20.
Jan 21 15:14:13 <dub>	either mpex policy is 'you fuckup the deposit you lose it, no question' or 'don't fuckup but we may be able to fix it'
Jan 21 15:14:14 <jcpham>	as i understand it: each case will have at least 20 btc in fess paid
Jan 21 15:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	3 judges to any trial, each gets 3 btc, for a total of 9.
Jan 21 15:14:22 <pigeons>	ok, winner gets his 10 back then that leaves 1
Jan 21 15:14:29 <jcpham>	3 judges at 3btc apiece leaves 11BTC to split in every case
Jan 21 15:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	the winner gets a fraction of 10 btc = to the % he's allocated.
Jan 21 15:14:43 <pigeons>	i would have charged you more than 140 if i could have
Jan 21 15:14:56 <pigeons>	but his is whole at 140
Jan 21 15:15:01 <pigeons>	he is whole at 140
Jan 21 15:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	very odd.
Jan 21 15:15:22 <pigeons>	130 + 10 fees you caused him to incur
Jan 21 15:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	you know, money isn't soemthing to be redistributed to the needy. or do you ?
Jan 21 15:15:32 <jcpham>	in my mind it takes little to no effort to refund someone
Jan 21 15:15:36 <mircea_popescu>	you still haven't answered the above question.
Jan 21 15:15:40 <jcpham>	how much effort is actually required
Jan 21 15:15:46 <pigeons>	he isnt needy, its his money
Jan 21 15:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons what happens now if you send 100.0 btc, sue, get back 100 + 10 fee + 3 for judging it ? <<< this.
Jan 21 15:16:10 <pigeons>	i dont know
Jan 21 15:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	do you plan to answer or should i just drop it ?
Jan 21 15:16:13 <mircea_popescu>	rigjht.
Jan 21 15:16:14 <pigeons>	that's over my head
Jan 21 15:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	well tell you what, that's no way to judge.
Jan 21 15:16:21 <jcpham>	well i'd get 113 BTC
Jan 21 15:16:29 <jcpham>	i know 4 other people who can do the same
Jan 21 15:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	100 times a day.
Jan 21 15:16:35 <dub>	mircea_popescu: you should have thought about it before using a court to settle stupid shit
Jan 21 15:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	dub all shit to be settled is stupid
Jan 21 15:16:48 <pigeons>	you owed him 130, the fees were to be allocated, since you caused the fees, you pay them not him
Jan 21 15:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	if it weren't stupid it wouldn't end in a court.
Jan 21 15:17:01 <dub>	he got the same amount back that he spent, you lost the case, you incur charges
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Jan 21 15:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i didn't "cause" him to send rounded numbers dood.
Jan 21 15:17:15 <pigeons>	no way you get anything of the fees when you could have settled it without rota
Jan 21 15:17:34 <pigeons>	you didnt cause it, it is reasonable that you credit him
Jan 21 15:17:38 <pigeons>	you diudnt, you pay
Jan 21 15:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, well, i guess this shows why the random person, even if well meaning, can not be a judge.
Jan 21 15:18:15 <jcpham>	damn
Jan 21 15:18:18 <pigeons>	you did cause the rounded anyway, by your retarted one address deposit system
Jan 21 15:18:28 <kakobrekla>	^^
Jan 21 15:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol mkay.
Jan 21 15:18:31 <dub>	it is kinda obtuse
Jan 21 15:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	dub kakobrekla pigeons IT CREATES ANONIMITY
Jan 21 15:18:50 <mircea_popescu>	are you fucking nuts ? ffs.
Jan 21 15:19:08 <mod6>	jesus christ
Jan 21 15:19:14 <kakobrekla>	just like bit bet
Jan 21 15:19:30 <jcpham>	you guys should make bets on rota disputes from now
Jan 21 15:19:34 <jcpham>	maybe you can clean up
Jan 21 15:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol why'd anyone bet on that ?
Jan 21 15:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that all btc goes to the same address means nobody's deposits or withdrawals can be traced.
Jan 21 15:20:05 <mod6>	(12:18) < pigeons> you did cause the rounded anyway, by your retarted one address deposit system << this is amazing
Jan 21 15:20:37 <mod6>	are you guys IT people?
Jan 21 15:20:44 <mod6>	what do you guys do for a living?
Jan 21 15:20:49 <kakobrekla>	nature is amazing. ~ ron swnson
Jan 21 15:20:51 <dub>	at first glance this seems open and shut, he failed to utilise mpex per teh conditions he agreed to, he loses
Jan 21 15:21:05 <pigeons>	it wasnt a case against the breach of conditions
Jan 21 15:21:22 <dub>	but in the 'case notes' there is some arbitaration and an inferred agreement to refund, so a win for the claimant is the intuitive result
Jan 21 15:21:25 <pigeons>	it was breach of fiduciary duty, which he did breach cause he failed to take a reasonable action
Jan 21 15:21:54 <pigeons>	i asked prior about that inferred agreement and mp said it wasnt what it appeared to us
Jan 21 15:22:04 <pigeons>	but yeah sure looks like one to me too
Jan 21 15:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	aaanyways.
Jan 21 15:22:28 <jcpham>	still need rassah's ruling
Jan 21 15:22:30 <mircea_popescu>	i think this has been discussed to it's demise
Jan 21 15:22:47 *	mod6 continues to beat dead horses
Jan 21 15:23:58 *	mircea_popescu just realised this is liek, the first tiem teh community pissed him off since before death of glbse
Jan 21 15:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what's gonna be the next one
Jan 21 15:24:12 <pigeons>	wow the fact that you actually expected to win is shocking
Jan 21 15:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't expect to win dood.
Jan 21 15:24:36 <mod6>	its not about who won the case. its about the damn ruling.
Jan 21 15:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	i expected the guy to win his 130 btc back.
Jan 21 15:24:45 <mod6>	jesus fucking christ.
Jan 21 15:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4817 @ 0.00061302 = 2.9529 BTC [+]
Jan 21 15:24:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12783 @ 0.00061358 = 7.8434 BTC [+]
Jan 21 15:24:51 <mod6>	i feel like im taking crazy pills
Jan 21 15:25:01 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 blue or red ?
Jan 21 15:25:24 <pigeons>	why didnt you just pay him instead of making us go through this if you expected him to win?
Jan 21 15:25:26 *	mod6 takes another red for extra effect
Jan 21 15:25:35 <pigeons>	why would the system award you anything for acting in bad faith
Jan 21 15:25:41 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons so that you may prove yourselves as actually takeable seriously as judges
Jan 21 15:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	in spite of no qualifications, prior experience etc.
Jan 21 15:25:59 <dub>	bad call
Jan 21 15:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	i guess lol
Jan 21 15:26:05 <Namworld>	So... can I use the rota for the unclaimed giga.etf case? =P
Jan 21 15:26:12 <pigeons>	well maybe we showed that, if we shilled we sure wouldnt have and you sure wouldnt have gotten any cases
Jan 21 15:26:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1608 @ 0.00061358 = 0.9866 BTC [+]
Jan 21 15:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3325 @ 0.00061374 = 2.0407 BTC [+]
Jan 21 15:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you forget it's a voluntary system.
Jan 21 15:26:40 <mircea_popescu>	erring on either side is equally bad.
Jan 21 15:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	it has to be quite arrowstraight.
Jan 21 15:26:52 <pigeons>	well cause you think its an error doesnt make it so
Jan 21 15:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	...
Jan 21 15:27:16 <pigeons>	you lost, you caused the process by not settling beforehand, so you pay the fees
Jan 21 15:27:24 <mircea_popescu>	dude. you created a pump.
Jan 21 15:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	peopel can now claim infinite btc from me.
Jan 21 15:27:31 <pigeons>	i didnt creat e this
Jan 21 15:27:32 <dub>	no you did
Jan 21 15:27:46 <pigeons>	dont they still have to win?
Jan 21 15:27:59 <mircea_popescu>	all it takes is for them to send rounded btc.
Jan 21 15:28:00 <dub>	its easy for you to fix though, just make the rule hard and fast, no refunds
Jan 21 15:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	dub yup
Jan 21 15:28:11 <dub>	its in the ToS, deal with it
Jan 21 15:28:18 <jurov>	mircea i don't understand one thing. why you can't just set a hefty fee for resolving mistakes?
Jan 21 15:28:21 <pigeons>	it was a rule, but mp told him to go to rota
Jan 21 15:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	i have no choice, obviously.
Jan 21 15:28:30 <dub>	I think the rota did mpex a favour ruling this way
Jan 21 15:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	jurov cause that's unfair to the poor.
Jan 21 15:29:01 <jurov>	oh, so better take everything. i see.
Jan 21 15:29:14 <mircea_popescu>	jurov hey, at least it's fair.
Jan 21 15:29:29 <pigeons>	its not fair, guy had to go through all this just to get his shit back
Jan 21 15:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	dub well quite possibly.
Jan 21 15:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons shit he missent.
Jan 21 15:29:39 <pigeons>	and MP gets publicity
Jan 21 15:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	dude i dunno, seriously, mail your house keys to some random address
Jan 21 15:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	then expect they pai
Jan 21 15:30:08 <mircea_popescu>	for the tiome you couldn't go inside cause you didn't have your keys or w/e
Jan 21 15:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	and the trouble of finding them again
Jan 21 15:30:13 <pigeons>	um wasnt random
Jan 21 15:30:18 <mircea_popescu>	130.0 is random.
Jan 21 15:30:23 <pigeons>	no
Jan 21 15:30:38 <pigeons>	its the argument he gave to the deposit command
Jan 21 15:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	what i most of all wonder is,
Jan 21 15:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	why hasn't this lively debate take place in teh comment section ?!
Jan 21 15:31:21 <jurov>	mircea, so if i mail the keys, they get to keep the house? is it what you're saying?
Jan 21 15:31:25 <pigeons>	cause no one wants to email you to get credits to read a web page
Jan 21 15:31:39 <mircea_popescu>	comments are always free ?!
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Jan 21 15:31:48 <pigeons>	nope i can only see this one page
Jan 21 15:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	dude... comments are always and in all circumstancess visible.
Jan 21 15:32:31 <jcpham>	i think if you want to preserve this in posterity for all to comment on, it needs to be moved elsewhere
Jan 21 15:32:36 <jcpham>	it's very personal right now
Jan 21 15:33:10 <mircea_popescu>	i dun particularly want to preserve it
Jan 21 15:33:39 <dub>	^
Jan 21 15:33:48 <dub>	lets all agree it was a fuckup and forget about it
Jan 21 15:34:00 <pigeons>	nope we all think we are right
Jan 21 15:34:07 <dub>	maybe there will be a real case for the rota one day but it now seems unlikely
Jan 21 15:34:07 <mircea_popescu>	that's why it's so fascinating lol
Jan 21 15:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	dub quite.
Jan 21 15:34:42 <jcpham>	hopefully the next judges will nt be so biased
Jan 21 15:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt it has any relevance to anyone other than the ppl involved tho
Jan 21 15:34:52 <jurov>	<jurov> mircea, so if i mismail the keys, they get to keep the house? is it what you're saying?
Jan 21 15:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	i think for everyone else its "o, that thing that couldn't have worked didn't ? o wow."
Jan 21 15:35:00 <dub>	mircea_popescu - the first person to create his own justice system, and the first to destroy his own justice system
Jan 21 15:35:01 <jurov>	^ can you at least reply to this?
Jan 21 15:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	jurov no, you may ask for the keys back, and even get them
Jan 21 15:35:14 <mircea_popescu>	but you can't get more ffs.
Jan 21 15:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	dub justice is apparently too prudish for me.
Jan 21 15:35:41 <pigeons>	he didnt get more
Jan 21 15:35:47 <pigeons>	explain that please
Jan 21 15:35:53 <pigeons>	he paid 140 and got 140
Jan 21 15:35:53 <jcpham>	metaphorically, wences got back his own keys plus a nother set of keys to another house?
Jan 21 15:35:55 <jurov>	but in this case it's like  they told me they're moving into the house, it's reasonable
Jan 21 15:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	this is literally "he should get the keys, the stamps for having asked and if we could we'd have given him all paid tow weeks vacation to boot"
Jan 21 15:36:04 <dub>	courts award costs to the winner, fyi
Jan 21 15:36:15 <dub>	the idea is teh winner goes away without having lost money
Jan 21 15:36:18 <markedathome>	pigeons: paid 130 and got 140 surely?
Jan 21 15:36:19 <pigeons>	right
Jan 21 15:36:33 <pigeons>	markedathome: he paid 140 130 +10 fees
Jan 21 15:36:38 <dub>	markedathome: he paid a 10btc fee to use the rota
Jan 21 15:36:53 <jcpham>	the only other option i would've entertained was for both parties to lose
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Jan 21 15:36:58 <markedathome>	oh right.
Jan 21 15:37:46 <dub>	to an outsider reading that blog post it actually look slike the rota worked fine
Jan 21 15:38:12 <pigeons>	should all be done in irc and log posted
Jan 21 15:38:13 <dub>	aside from mircea_popescu taxing himself 10btc to handly a customer service case
Jan 21 15:38:14 <jcpham>	yes, yes it does
Jan 21 15:38:44 <dub>	then, he might have paid someone 10 btc to handle it
Jan 21 15:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	dub it reads like mp taxing himself to create the system, and paying people to be idiots and subvert deposit process.
Jan 21 15:39:03 <dub>	10btc is pretty cheap for 3 judges
Jan 21 15:39:09 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like i'm the government, i guess.
Jan 21 15:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	except in btc there's no such thing.
Jan 21 15:39:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00061132 = 4.9517 BTC [-]
Jan 21 15:39:34 *	markedathome wonders what mpoe-pr would have replied
Jan 21 15:39:38 <dub>	even internet judges
Jan 21 15:40:11 <dub>	mircea_popescu: you eveil, evil state you
Jan 21 15:40:16 <markedathome>	what would the difference have been with something like judge.me?
Jan 21 15:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	basically this is a ruling saying "it is right and proper for people to disregard instructions and send anything they want to mpex"
Jan 21 15:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	which is pretty boneheaded.
Jan 21 15:40:33 <jcpham>	i do not agree with that
Jan 21 15:40:39 <pigeons>	no but it happens, especially with the weird deposit system
Jan 21 15:40:40 <dub>	neither
Jan 21 15:40:41 <jcpham>	i see your point, but based on the details of this case
Jan 21 15:40:43 <jcpham>	that is not true
Jan 21 15:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons "it happens" ?
Jan 21 15:41:02 <pigeons>	and when it does happen, and you've shown mpex that you made it error, they dont fix it, hence the rota decision
Jan 21 15:41:03 <jurov>	no. it is ruling saying "it is improper for mpex to keep everything if user makes a mistake"
Jan 21 15:41:18 <jcpham>	especially if the user sends the correct deposit
Jan 21 15:41:19 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yeah. same thing.
Jan 21 15:41:20 <pigeons>	mistakes dont happen mircea_popescu ?
Jan 21 15:41:22 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: maybe offer, 1) anonymous deposit - lose at risk even with signed / authenticated ownership
Jan 21 15:41:22 <jcpham>	after the mistake
Jan 21 15:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons mistakes are paid for BY THOSE WHO MAKLE THEM
Jan 21 15:41:32 <markedathome>	2) custom addresses - lose anonymity
Jan 21 15:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	not by those who have the most money.
Jan 21 15:41:41 <mircea_popescu>	not by those who are the bigger entity
Jan 21 15:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	not by those who we identify as "the man" in our misguided quest for social justice.
Jan 21 15:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Jan 21 15:41:56 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: actually, it was reasonable in this case to resolve his mistake, that was the ruling
Jan 21 15:42:18 <dub>	no, its a ruling saying 'if you are going to enter into arbitration regarding incorrect depost amounts, do that privately'
Jan 21 15:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	dub cheeky ruling then.
Jan 21 15:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	if that actually is the case, i should certainly dissolve it.
Jan 21 15:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7325 @ 0.00061374 = 4.4956 BTC [+]
Jan 21 15:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8844 @ 0.00061495 = 5.4386 BTC [+]
Jan 21 15:43:19 <pigeons>	control freak
Jan 21 15:43:29 <dub>	in a real court if you forced a case to be raised, then during the hearing capitualted to the other party, the court would probably impose an additional fine on you for wasting its time
Jan 21 15:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	no but wtf bs is this, "We are too good for the case at hand"
Jan 21 15:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	dub the idea here is to create a new system, not to rehash the old.
Jan 21 15:44:05 <pigeons>	dub: that is exactly how i felt
Jan 21 15:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	the entire point is to have voluntary courts, which is to say, courts which can be relied on to be fair. by both parties.
Jan 21 15:44:11 <dub>	well then the rota wasn't what I and apparently others thought
Jan 21 15:44:20 <mircea_popescu>	well i guess not.
Jan 21 15:44:33 <jcpham>	fairness is a relative term
Jan 21 15:44:51 <pigeons>	it was fair to both parties, wences was made whole, mp lost nothing other than the fees
Jan 21 15:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham in no interpretation of fairness can you promote a judgement based on one single party's pov.
Jan 21 15:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	"he paid 130+10 and should get back 140"
Jan 21 15:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	that's fine.
Jan 21 15:45:09 <dub>	I understand how mircea_popescu feels though
Jan 21 15:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	but it's half the story, and not good enough.
Jan 21 15:45:13 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: that's absolutely the issue
Jan 21 15:45:43 <dub>	I took a guy to court for selling me a boat that leaked, the ruled in his favour because we didnt have anything about it not leaking in a contract
Jan 21 15:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	"nothing other than the fees" is btc.
Jan 21 15:45:54 <dub>	true story
Jan 21 15:46:02 <pigeons>	any judgement involving mircea_popescu keeping something would have had to show he was being reasonable, and he wasn't
Jan 21 15:46:04 <dub>	had to pay his fees
Jan 21 15:46:09 <jcpham>	i'd like to know where the original wording is.....
Jan 21 15:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	" reasonable" ?!
Jan 21 15:46:19 <jurov>	if i'd have a policy saying to clients "if you make a mistake, screw you" and there's no real reason why it has to be so, it's only reasonable the court would say "screw your policy"
Jan 21 15:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is that lol.
Jan 21 15:46:28 <jcpham>	the orginal wording were it says mpex keeps funds mistakenly sent or incorrect in size
Jan 21 15:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	jurov no, it's not. the court isn't above the contract
Jan 21 15:46:40 <mircea_popescu>	again, this isn't fiat world and socialist government imposing it.
Jan 21 15:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham it's in the old options page somewhere
Jan 21 15:47:06 <jcpham>	i know it is somewhere
Jan 21 15:47:09 <jcpham>	because i remember readin it
Jan 21 15:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	DEPOSIT|{sum}, where the sum is an integer, written in BTC (note that you can not deposit less than 10 BTC). You will be quoted an exact sum, which you must send to the exchange address (1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx). Don't round anything, the decimals are there to identify you as the beneficiary. You will be credited the full amount.
Jan 21 15:47:29 <pigeons>	i thought about giving it to mp since he does say he keeps errors, but in law that wont hold up, thats not reasonable
Jan 21 15:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	there's that in the current faq
Jan 21 15:47:31 <jurov>	the court isn't above the contract... who decided, you?
Jan 21 15:47:38 <jurov>	rota just decided else
Jan 21 15:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yes.
Jan 21 15:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	well rota is well fucked then.
Jan 21 15:47:49 <pigeons>	even if a contract spells that and this happened a court rules this way
Jan 21 15:48:01 <jcpham>	yes but i thought there was wording that said something along the lines of "if it is wrong, you do not get it back"
Jan 21 15:48:08 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham there's gonna be lol.
Jan 21 15:48:08 <jcpham>	which is a customer service nightmare
Jan 21 15:48:29 <jcpham>	if you relegate me to customer service, I'm going to serve your customers
Jan 21 15:48:33 <jcpham>	for better or worse
Jan 21 15:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	that's not what a judge does.
Jan 21 15:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	turns out this banal case was actually incredibly fucking intricate huh.
Jan 21 15:48:50 <jcpham>	i wouldn't think so either
Jan 21 15:48:53 <jcpham>	but here we are.
Jan 21 15:49:11 <jcpham>	i think everyone had the best intentions
Jan 21 15:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure, yeah.
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Jan 21 15:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	but i squarely don't see how anyone would ever consider responding to a case, ever.
Jan 21 15:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, why ? run the risk of purely unilateral sidetaking... to what avail ? makes no sense.
Jan 21 15:50:35 <jcpham>	the next case may be unilateral against the claimant
Jan 21 15:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	that's no consolation.
Jan 21 15:50:53 <pigeons>	yeah you always run the risk of unilateral sidetaking
Jan 21 15:50:53 <jcpham>	the fees are the only way you have been harmed
Jan 21 15:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	if people wanted to gamble they'd go to sdice
Jan 21 15:51:18 <pigeons>	this was just clearcut mircea_popescu you owed him the money, he won, loser pays fees
Jan 21 15:51:56 <jcpham>	it seems the real precedent is the loser pays the fees
Jan 21 15:52:12 <jcpham>	but i don't like the winner/loser description
Jan 21 15:52:32 <jcpham>	it wasn't necessary to frame this case this way imho
Jan 21 15:52:40 <pigeons>	if another case it works out differently fine, that doesnt have to be a precedent, but in this case the fees were clearly incurred by mircea_popescu being unwilling to work out the issue despite having the facts beforehand
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Jan 21 15:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons except the loser is the party that made no mistake.
Jan 21 15:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	which is insane.
Jan 21 15:53:54 <jcpham>	the implication is that the "mistake" was not returning the funds
Jan 21 15:54:02 <jcpham>	as quickly as possible
Jan 21 15:54:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00061495 = 7.7484 BTC [+]
Jan 21 15:54:25 <jcpham>	if the guy hadn't send the correct amount
Jan 21 15:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	this can not be a mistake. it's not part of the deal.
Jan 21 15:54:41 <jcpham>	i can see him not getting his money back
Jan 21 15:54:41 <pigeons>	its pretty well established in law actually that you don't pay for mistakes
Jan 21 15:54:51 <mircea_popescu>	the court can't substitute its own moral judgements for the contract between the parties.
Jan 21 15:55:10 <jcpham>	can't it
Jan 21 15:55:12 <pigeons>	he fulfilled his contract, sent the money, but he made a mistake
Jan 21 15:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	he did not fulfill his contract, no.
Jan 21 15:55:26 <pigeons>	you had the obligation to fix that for him
Jan 21 15:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Jan 21 15:55:36 <pigeons>	well then how come you lost?
Jan 21 15:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	i had no such obligation, quite specifically.
Jan 21 15:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	because i was nice and you  were stupid, tbh.\
Jan 21 15:55:49 <jcpham>	i would seem that due to the lack of rules, the rota can make all sorts of WILDLY INACCURATE decisions
Jan 21 15:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham yeah.
Jan 21 15:56:12 <mircea_popescu>	reading the above, i now regred i didn't more clearly stress the supremacy of contract point
Jan 21 15:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	i can clearly see in retrospect how this "obvious" point was only obvious to me.
Jan 21 15:56:33 <pigeons>	no but even a written contract saying that mistakes in deposits are kept would have resulted the same
Jan 21 15:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	that's idiocy.
Jan 21 15:56:48 <pigeons>	because the intent of the contract is obviously what's material
Jan 21 15:56:54 <jcpham>	i'm still looking for the actual wording on MPEX (now)
Jan 21 15:57:05 <jcpham>	where it says incorrect deposits are kept
Jan 21 15:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i quoted it above, grep deposits
Jan 21 15:57:10 <jcpham>	because this fact was discussed
Jan 21 15:57:56 <pigeons>	i knew this was policy, but in this particular case, it was reasonable that mircea_popescu credit the amount showed to have been sent
Jan 21 15:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i guess so.
Jan 21 15:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	what's unreasonable tho, is to expect me to pay the costs of doing so.
Jan 21 15:58:32 <markedathome>	the /faq.html entry for DEPOSIT{sum} I thought would have had the same text as that of the command (in fact all of the commands should)
Jan 21 15:58:51 <pigeons>	which costs, your time was unavoidable here, but you didnt have to pay the fees if you settled before rota
Jan 21 15:58:56 <jcpham>	to be even more specific mircea_popescu
Jan 21 15:59:01 <jcpham>	I thought you had specifcs, like
Jan 21 15:59:10 <jcpham>	when it first opened
Jan 21 15:59:22 <jcpham>	there was a sentence saying you didn't return deposits that were wrong
Jan 21 15:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons why would i "settle before the rota" ? what bs is that?
Jan 21 15:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham let me dig it up
Jan 21 15:59:42 <pigeons>	because you had all the info we had
Jan 21 15:59:49 <pigeons>	why should this have gone to rota?
Jan 21 15:59:51 <jcpham>	i would like to re-read it if it still there
Jan 21 16:00:04 <pigeons>	only reason (other than bad faith wanting to promote rota) would be you didnt want to pay
Jan 21 16:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	Before sending the sum quoted you have to send an email containing at the very least the address you want benefits (through either the later exercise or sale of your contracts) forwarded to and the sum quoted to you. This allows you to be identified. If you fail to do this it may be impossible to ever identify you as the owner of the respective contracts/bitcoins, and so they may be forever lost.
Jan 21 16:01:17 <pigeons>	it shouldnt have gone to rota because he made it clear to you he paid the money
Jan 21 16:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons he only made it clear at the rota, actually.
Jan 21 16:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	once he finally signed the thing
Jan 21 16:02:05 <jcpham>	i suggest a new irc channel for this discussion should it arise again
Jan 21 16:02:17 <jcpham>	possibly a new forum format
Jan 21 16:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	why, we drownign out the assbot ?
Jan 21 16:02:30 <assbot>	 naw
Jan 21 16:02:30 <pigeons>	im not doing a forum, but an irc channel agreed
Jan 21 16:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	you can go to #trilema.
Jan 21 16:02:44 <jcpham>	other than mircea_popescu's blog
Jan 21 16:03:03 <pigeons>	i cant read his blog it asks for a fee
Jan 21 16:03:14 <jcpham>	i'm dependant on google translate
Jan 21 16:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	lately i write in english, still ?
Jan 21 16:03:56 <pigeons>	sort of
Jan 21 16:04:05 <jcpham>	sorry i didn't know you switched
Jan 21 16:04:13 <jcpham>	but the case is in english
Jan 21 16:04:17 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: faq.html, Q23, *definition
Jan 21 16:04:20 <jcpham>	untranslated
Jan 21 16:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	i changed like 3 months ago
Jan 21 16:05:06 <markedathome>	rota peeps - faq q24, whilst not strictly mentioning deposits, isn't this also relevant?
Jan 21 16:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	23. What will you do about stolen coins ? How will you help the rightful owner ?
Jan 21 16:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	By defition the rightful owner of any coins is "he who can send them". If you take issue with that, please stick to fiat. You are not ready for Bitcoin yet.
Jan 21 16:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	haha ty.
Jan 21 16:05:12 <jcpham>	my bad for not disabling google translate
Jan 21 16:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	defition lol
Jan 21 16:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	thios was proofed like 8 times. STILL SPELLING ERRORS IN IT OMG
Jan 21 16:06:25 <jcpham>	Q23 was addressed markedathome
Jan 21 16:06:36 <jcpham>	it was never at question who the present owner of the 130 btc was
Jan 21 16:06:50 <jcpham>	the question was past ownership and fiduciary responsibility
Jan 21 16:07:25 <jcpham>	throwing the term "fiduciary responsibility" changes things
Jan 21 16:07:29 <jcpham>	in there
Jan 21 16:07:45 <markedathome>	I thought it was with two deposits of 130btc and only one order, along with not being able to sign with the originating key.
Jan 21 16:07:52 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Jan 21 16:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0005984 / 0.000611 / 0.0006312 (1755603 shares, 1,072.68 BTC), 7D: 0.0005984 / 0.00065107 / 0.00068 (8687621 shares, 5,656.34 BTC), 30D: 0.0005984 / 0.00064545 / 0.00068 (38661110 shares, 24,953.83 BTC)
Jan 21 16:08:00 <jcpham>	we had him sign from blockchain
Jan 21 16:08:04 <jcpham>	i new statement
Jan 21 16:08:09 <jcpham>	*a new statement
Jan 21 16:08:23 <mircea_popescu>	DEPOSIT|{sum}, where the sum is an integer, written in BTC (note that you can not deposit less than 10 BTC). You will be quoted an exact sum, which you must send to the exchange address (1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx). Don't round anything, the decimals are there to identify you as the beneficiary. You will be credited the full amount. Incoming Bitcoin that doesn't exactly match a quoted sum will be simply kept, r
Jan 21 16:08:23 <mircea_popescu>	eported as profits and distributed to MPEx shareholders.
Jan 21 16:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	there, last sentence in red.
Jan 21 16:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	and bold face.
Jan 21 16:08:40 <jcpham>	did you just add that
Jan 21 16:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	anyone see room for misinterpretation ?
Jan 21 16:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham yes.
Jan 21 16:08:51 <jcpham>	it used to be there
Jan 21 16:08:54 <jcpham>	it was removed
Jan 21 16:08:59 <jcpham>	and it has now been re-added
Jan 21 16:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	no i just added it now.
Jan 21 16:09:06 <jcpham>	ok, ty.
Jan 21 16:09:21 <jcpham>	i have the type of memory where i read things and usually cannot forget them
Jan 21 16:09:28 <jcpham>	that sentence was there at one point in time
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Jan 21 16:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	i think you're thinking the old mpoe page faq
Jan 21 16:09:35 <jcpham>	a similarly worded sentence
Jan 21 16:09:38 <jcpham>	possibly
Jan 21 16:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, the idea was always the same.
Jan 21 16:10:03 <jcpham>	it would've been the first incarnation of any site you debuted
Jan 21 16:10:14 <jcpham>	because i read it then
Jan 21 16:10:15 <markedathome>	jcpham: the q5 syntax deposit doesn't have that addition, the output of the command did.
Jan 21 16:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, that.
Jan 21 16:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome o right you are
Jan 21 16:10:33 <jcpham>	i see
Jan 21 16:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	it was also in the deposit slip, yes.
Jan 21 16:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	lemme find that
Jan 21 16:11:13 <jcpham>	i think if you go out of your way to make that sentence known
Jan 21 16:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	i thought i had been lol.
Jan 21 16:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	hmm, the deposit slip only says "send this exactly"
Jan 21 16:11:47 <jcpham>	not to me, not searchable in the faq to the public
Jan 21 16:11:49 <jcpham>	not until now
Jan 21 16:12:11 <jcpham>	i was peronally aware of the idea of it, yes
Jan 21 16:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134 @ 0.00061495 = 0.0824 BTC [+]
Jan 21 16:12:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26149 @ 0.00061508 = 16.0837 BTC [+]
Jan 21 16:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	Jan 05 22:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	BUT! FOR SRS! I AM KEEPING ROUNDED SUMS! NOOBS BEWARE!
Jan 21 16:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	liek ?
Jan 21 16:12:46 <markedathome>	doesn't have mpex deposit so would be difficult to find?
Jan 21 16:12:47 <jcpham>	oh my bad for missing that sentence on January 5th at 10pm
Jan 21 16:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	kik
Jan 21 16:15:06 <thestringpuller>	kik
Jan 21 16:15:07 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 21 16:15:18 <markedathome>	I think that it does show that the rota needs to have area of jusrisdiction and contracts specifically stated, either in the case, the rota site/faq and in nominating the selection of the judges
Jan 21 16:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	yeah but a large part of the appeal was the philosophical purity of its general open nature
Jan 21 16:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	once you start trying to prop things with fiat-type arches you'll collapse in fiat mess.
Jan 21 16:17:00 <thestringpuller>	^idealistic are we?
Jan 21 16:17:17 <markedathome>	then isn't that the jurisdiction, and should be used as the basis? and if so which if any of the ruling matched?
Jan 21 16:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller when i can afford to be.
Jan 21 16:18:57 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome hm ?
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Jan 21 16:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00061132 = 8.7419 BTC [-]
Jan 21 16:23:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00061109 = 0.275 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 16:29:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17313 @ 0.00061508 = 10.6489 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 16:32:16 <dub>	mircea_popescu: just because it didn't go your way doesn't mean that didnt happen
Jan 21 16:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	that ?
Jan 21 16:33:45 <dub>	philosophical purity
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Jan 21 16:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	well obviously a one case of anything is about as meaningless as any other one case of something else
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Jan 21 16:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	for that matter, expectign people to be thrown in a pond supposed to be above and beyond the collected wisdom of a good third of all humans that ever lived is also a bit off.
Jan 21 16:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6038 @ 0.00061508 = 3.7139 BTC [+]
Jan 21 16:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10962 @ 0.00061536 = 6.7456 BTC [+]
Jan 21 16:36:57 <dub>	again because the 'wisdom' does not suit you, its not invalid
Jan 21 16:37:22 <dub>	the judges ruled that their time was wasted with triviality
Jan 21 16:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	that's not something rthey can rule.
Jan 21 16:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	what's this, fantasia ?
Jan 21 16:39:29 <dub>	sure it is, they do in 'fiat' courts every day
Jan 21 16:40:15 <dub>	in fact, judges do whatever it is they feel like, by exposing your internal process to a court of judges you accepted that
Jan 21 16:40:20 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha! wait, wait. these verdicts, they fail to include payment addresses.
Jan 21 16:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	o this is going to be even more dramatique.
Jan 21 16:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons jcpham http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/#comment-91499
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Jan 21 16:42:23 <jcpham>	pigeons included his
Jan 21 16:42:42 <jcpham>	i may say fuck it
Jan 21 16:43:10 <mircea_popescu>	o i see, i skipped over the last yeah
Jan 21 16:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	fixing.
Jan 21 16:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham someone will sooner or later have to lift the messy rock of btc courts.
Jan 21 16:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	it's going to be messy, and it's going to be a waste of everyone's time.
Jan 21 16:44:13 <mircea_popescu>	and until it gets done we will just go on sucking.
Jan 21 16:44:58 <Namworld>	So, can I use the rota for GIGA.ETF...
Jan 21 16:45:47 <dub>	who are you asking?
Jan 21 16:46:35 <Namworld>	I don't know. Who's in the rota? How do I start anything?
Jan 21 16:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	well read up on it neh ?
Jan 21 16:47:08 <Namworld>	I'll try and find the link I guess
Jan 21 16:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	normally i would have loved to say yes, but under the circumstances i don't see myself signing.
Jan 21 16:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	bullshit "claimant is always right and mp is annoying and rich" judgements i don't need a court for, they're a dime a dozen.
Jan 21 16:49:20 <jcpham>	the judgement wasn't bullshit
Jan 21 16:49:24 <jcpham>	and it was impartial
Jan 21 16:49:29 <jcpham>	it makes you look like a fucking angel
Jan 21 16:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	hey, you judge the case, i judge your judgement. seems logical neh ?
Jan 21 16:50:04 <jcpham>	Namworld the rota was proposed here: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-first-roll-of-judges-december-2012/
Jan 21 16:50:13 <Namworld>	Yeah, already found the link
Jan 21 16:50:16 <Namworld>	thanks
Jan 21 16:50:17 <jcpham>	k
Jan 21 16:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	that's the first roll. iirc there's a link to the very short contitution in it
Jan 21 16:50:29 <jcpham>	my bad
Jan 21 16:50:36 <jcpham>	the link is in there to the proposal
Jan 21 16:51:06 <jcpham>	Judicator
Jan 21 16:51:10 <pigeons>	https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/S.BBET-PT
Jan 21 16:51:12 <jcpham>	still like that word with the a-
Jan 21 16:52:03 <pigeons>	wow great contract on that one
Jan 21 16:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	you mean ad- ?
Jan 21 16:52:37 <jcpham>	or that too
Jan 21 16:52:40 <jcpham>	adj
Jan 21 16:52:54 <pigeons>	oh of course this too https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/S.DICE-PT
Jan 21 16:52:56 <jcpham>	you know i had too google the correct spelling of it
Jan 21 16:52:57 <Namworld>	Well I wish to use the rota
Jan 21 16:53:07 <jcpham>	when i intentiaonally mispelled it
Jan 21 16:53:11 <jcpham>	true story
Jan 21 16:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	If any votes are held on the underlieing asset then (if practical) a motion will
Jan 21 16:53:18 <mircea_popescu>	somebody didn't read teh contract
Jan 21 16:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	underlieing
Jan 21 16:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	wtf he spells it that way throughout.
Jan 21 16:54:20 <jcpham>	fwiw i have 0 business relationship with any asset or exchange
Jan 21 16:54:27 <jcpham>	or any other rota member
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Jan 21 16:55:09 *	jcpham has totally assumed a bystander role
Jan 21 16:55:11 <pigeons>	except i pay you to clean my house topless
Jan 21 16:55:17 <jurov>	lol i realized i can't enter  rota even if i wanted
Jan 21 16:55:31 <jurov>	i'd rule "let mircea screw them, so they prefer coinbr"
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Jan 21 16:55:50 <jcpham>	i cannot benefit from any of this
Jan 21 16:55:55 <jcpham>	in any way that i'm aware of
Jan 21 16:56:07 <pigeons>	i'm so fair it hurts
Jan 21 16:56:17 <dub>	you can benefit of the peoples love
Jan 21 16:56:33 <jcpham>	can i do the queen victoria wave
Jan 21 16:56:43 *	jcpham turns hand back and forth
Jan 21 16:57:17 <jcpham>	all my assets defuncted themselves
Jan 21 16:57:21 <dub>	all judges should submit photo wearing silly wig
Jan 21 16:57:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Jan 21 16:57:50 <dub>	and optionally, gavel in pooper
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Jan 21 16:58:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118 @ 0.00061536 = 0.0726 BTC [+]
Jan 21 16:58:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5382 @ 0.00061577 = 3.3141 BTC [+]
Jan 21 17:00:15 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Jan 21 17:00:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.59819, Best ask: 16.61113, Bid-ask spread: 0.01294, Last trade: 16.56000, 24 hour volume: 59746.03234632, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.98000, 24 hour vwap: 16.33564
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Jan 21 17:05:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11933 @ 0.00061577 = 7.348 BTC [+]
Jan 21 17:05:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9533 @ 0.00061607 = 5.873 BTC [+]
Jan 21 17:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17819 @ 0.00061634 = 10.9826 BTC [+]
Jan 21 17:05:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00061664 = 3.1757 BTC [+]
Jan 21 17:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5465 @ 0.00061701 = 3.372 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 17:35:01 <Bugpowder>	buildin' up the bidwall :)
Jan 21 17:36:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]
Jan 21 17:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 21 17:46:57 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0005984 / 0.000611 / 0.0006312 (1842132 shares, 1,125.55 BTC), 7D: 0.0005984 / 0.00065049 / 0.00068 (8831436 shares, 5,744.80 BTC), 30D: 0.0005984 / 0.00064537 / 0.00068 (38743215 shares, 25,004.04 BTC)
Jan 21 17:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13069 @ 0.00061466 = 8.033 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 17:53:01 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 21 17:53:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.75201, Best ask: 16.83000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07799, Last trade: 16.75201, 24 hour volume: 61105.12354761, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.98000, 24 hour vwap: 16.35490
Jan 21 17:55:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 281 @ 0.00061466 = 0.1727 BTC [-]
Jan 21 17:55:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00061109 = 11.7024 BTC [-]
Jan 21 17:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5330 @ 0.00061 = 3.2513 BTC [-]
Jan 21 17:56:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;whois Bugpowder
Jan 21 17:56:44 <gribble>	206.241.0.249 - http://webchat.freenode.net (cef100f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.241.0.249) has been on server rowling.freenode.net since 02:06 PM, January 21, 2013 (idle for 56 seconds) and is on #bitcoin-assets.
Jan 21 17:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident Bugpowder
Jan 21 17:56:50 <gribble>	Nick 'Bugpowder', with hostmask 'Bugpowder!cef100f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.241.0.249', is not identified.
Jan 21 17:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	gah
Jan 21 17:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating Bugpowder
Jan 21 17:56:58 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Bugpowder, rated since Tue Sep 11 08:01:46 2012. Cumulative rating 4, from 4 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Bugpowder
Jan 21 17:57:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1101 BTC [-]
Jan 21 17:57:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.11 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Jan 21 17:57:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.1002 = 0.2004 BTC [-]
Jan 21 17:57:20 <Bugpowder>	1 sec
Jan 21 17:58:11 <Bugpowder>	;;gpg eauth Bugpowder
Jan 21 17:58:12 <gribble>	Request successful for user Bugpowder, hostmask Bugpowder!cef100f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.241.0.249. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F1573A6B1578A821
Jan 21 17:58:23 <pizzaman1337>	gosh, bitcoin needs to slow down
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Jan 21 17:58:30 <pizzaman1337>	I don't want this whole thing to crash again
Jan 21 17:58:46 <Bugpowder>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2af6c752ee03725e9cd95f947a421ec295b32d320671c8ed12788e38
Jan 21 17:58:46 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Jan 21 17:58:46 <mircea_popescu>	it will, and then recover again and crash again
Jan 21 17:59:12 <pizzaman1337>	what do you think it'll reach before it crashes?
Jan 21 17:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	who knows ?
Jan 21 17:59:52 <rdponticelli>	Rollercoaster!
Jan 21 18:00:56 <pizzaman1337>	fun
Jan 21 18:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 21 18:01:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.75001, Best ask: 16.79999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 16.75001, 24 hour volume: 61150.26465286, 24 hour low: 15.63412, 24 hour high: 16.98000, 24 hour vwap: 16.35861
Jan 21 18:02:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.4 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Jan 21 18:02:39 <Namworld>	It raise, raise, raise. Everyone panic buys... suddenly a big roller says "Time to cash in" and sells 300k bitcoins.
Jan 21 18:02:48 <Namworld>	All the little buyers lose confidence
Jan 21 18:02:55 <Namworld>	back to low price
Jan 21 18:03:15 <pizzaman1337>	still seems to be growing overall though
Jan 21 18:03:37 <pizzaman1337>	august crash recovered pretty quickly
Jan 21 18:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00061633 = 10.6933 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 18:31:55 <jurov>	;;bc,tslb
Jan 21 18:31:59 <gribble>	Time since last block: 44 minutes and 39 seconds
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Jan 21 18:32:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4496 @ 0.00061348 = 2.7582 BTC [-]
Jan 21 18:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.53 = 1.59 BTC [+]
Jan 21 18:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.545 = 5.45 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 18:35:38 <thestringpuller>	mpoe is suffering due to the price drop
Jan 21 18:35:40 <thestringpuller>	err
Jan 21 18:35:42 <thestringpuller>	price increase
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Jan 21 18:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.56 = 1.12 BTC [+]
Jan 21 18:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4557 @ 0.00061 = 2.7798 BTC [-]
Jan 21 18:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7689 @ 0.00060859 = 4.6794 BTC [-]
Jan 21 18:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3954 @ 0.00060287 = 2.3837 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 18:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+]
Jan 21 18:43:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 175 @ 0.01 = 1.75 BTC [+]
Jan 21 18:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14404 @ 0.00061105 = 8.8016 BTC [+]
Jan 21 18:45:12 <Namworld>	people need more BTC-BOND
Jan 21 18:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11946 @ 0.00061276 = 7.32 BTC [+]
Jan 21 18:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1354 @ 0.00060358 = 0.8172 BTC [-]
Jan 21 18:58:12 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Jan 21 18:58:14 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 217484 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 243 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 20 hours, 24 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2952678.64006960 | Estimated Percent Change: -9.1357567164
Jan 21 18:59:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2649 @ 0.00061295 = 1.6237 BTC [+]
Jan 21 18:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 461 @ 0.00060287 = 0.2779 BTC [-]
Jan 21 18:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00060124 = 10.8223 BTC [-]
Jan 21 18:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6685 @ 0.00060072 = 4.0158 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 19:05:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7515 @ 0.00060072 = 4.5144 BTC [-]
Jan 21 19:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18959 @ 0.00060065 = 11.3877 BTC [-]
Jan 21 19:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00060199 = 4.6955 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 19:17:43 <thestringpuller>	jurov: "Obama Begins Inauguration Festivities With Ceremonial Drone Flyover"
Jan 21 19:17:47 <thestringpuller>	http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-begins-inauguration-festivities-with-ceremon,30974/
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Jan 21 19:24:54 <dub>	third judge weighs in on the rota decision
Jan 21 19:25:14 <dub>	a better result for mp
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Jan 21 19:27:17 <mod6>	yeah. that looks like what I was thinking it should be there abouts
Jan 21 19:27:22 <dub>	heh trend once again blocking buttcointalk
Jan 21 19:27:49 <dub>	The latest tests indicate that this URL contains malicious software or could defraud visitors.
Jan 21 19:27:59 <dub>	latter moar likely
Jan 21 19:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4041 @ 0.00060065 = 2.4272 BTC [-]
Jan 21 19:31:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15849 @ 0.00059969 = 9.5045 BTC [-]
Jan 21 19:31:30 <mod6>	i was actually thinking like 1% so like 128.7
Jan 21 19:31:40 <mod6>	*shrug*
Jan 21 19:32:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.009 = 0.018 BTC [+]
Jan 21 19:34:13 <thestringpuller>	mpoe record lows
Jan 21 19:34:34 <mod6>	!ticker mpex s.mpoe
Jan 21 19:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0005984 / 0.0006098 / 0.0006312 (1887780 shares, 1,151.18 BTC), 7D: 0.0005984 / 0.00064965 / 0.00068 (9003906 shares, 5,849.43 BTC), 30D: 0.0005984 / 0.00064526 / 0.00068 (38827780 shares, 25,054.16 BTC)
Jan 21 19:34:58 <pigeons>	yeah record lows are about 100 times lower
Jan 21 19:36:48 <mod6>	and recently there has been a lot of buying
Jan 21 19:37:18 <mod6>	wasn't there like a block of 10`000`000 at .00062 and .00064 and .00066?
Jan 21 19:39:36 <mod6>	anyway, ups and downs right?
Jan 21 19:39:45 <mod6>	:]
Jan 21 19:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00527831 = 7.3896 BTC [+]
Jan 21 19:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2850 @ 0.00527441 = 15.0321 BTC [-]
Jan 21 19:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 704 @ 0.00524041 = 3.6892 BTC [-]
Jan 21 19:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 511 @ 0.0051752 = 2.6445 BTC [-]
Jan 21 19:42:34 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu i've thought about this more and i think you should simply monetize mistakes
Jan 21 19:42:55 <jcpham>	make it your perogative to have the first say on refunds and charge a fee
Jan 21 19:43:07 <jcpham>	to whatever degree makes the mistake fun for you
Jan 21 19:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	too complex.
Jan 21 19:43:41 <jcpham>	10btc for any returned funds isn't complex
Jan 21 19:43:46 <jcpham>	"administrative fee"
Jan 21 19:44:00 <jcpham>	i would. it would be what i'd gain from this
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Jan 21 19:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol so why didn;t you put that in if you would.
Jan 21 19:44:12 <jcpham>	the right to profit from any and all refunds
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Jan 21 19:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	A novel attack against bitcoin What if someone were to put illegal information into the blockchain itself? Top secret information or magnet links for example.
Jan 21 19:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	the novel!
Jan 21 19:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	what if someone were to put a novel in the blockchain ?
Jan 21 19:46:13 <jcpham>	can information be illegal
Jan 21 19:46:37 <pigeons>	;;google illegal number
Jan 21 19:46:38 <gribble>	Illegal number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number>; Illegal prime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_prime>; Just how small is the smallest illegal number? - The Mathematical ...: <http://mathbric.blogspot.com/2009/01/just-how-small-is-smallest-illegal_05.html>
Jan 21 19:47:59 <jcpham>	a blog post denouncing the rota an implementation of the new returned funds fee to protect yourself should suffice ;)
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Jan 21 19:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
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Jan 21 19:50:38 <mircea_popescu>	so far i'm out what, 150btcs in salaries + all the promotional effort, to make someting
Jan 21 19:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	and the solution proposed is to tear it down and make something else, this time carefulyl curatedf from the general community ?
Jan 21 19:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't sound like a winner.
Jan 21 19:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00060199 = 16.1333 BTC [+]
Jan 21 19:53:15 <jcpham>	it was not my intention to shit on you
Jan 21 19:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	i get it, i get it.
Jan 21 19:56:25 <jcpham>	lots of places charge a fee to return money
Jan 21 19:56:33 <jcpham>	penalize the act of return
Jan 21 19:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22208 @ 0.00060199 = 13.369 BTC [+]
Jan 21 19:57:09 <jcpham>	it's like bouncing a check and i think you should insulate yourself from it
Jan 21 19:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	i'm just gonna insist that peeps step up, take btc seriously etc.
Jan 21 19:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	but the bounced cheque comparison is possibly valuable. i don't imagine anyone with a bounced cheque failed to argue he made a mistake
Jan 21 19:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00060172 = 15.8854 BTC [-]
Jan 21 19:58:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1251 @ 0.00059969 = 0.7502 BTC [-]
Jan 21 19:58:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3199 @ 0.00059945 = 1.9176 BTC [-]
Jan 21 19:59:25 <pigeons>	have you paid wences?
Jan 21 20:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	not yet.
Jan 21 20:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	rassah needs to add address so far.
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Jan 21 20:02:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19642 @ 0.00060199 = 11.8243 BTC [+]
Jan 21 20:02:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13176 @ 0.00061402 = 8.0903 BTC [+]
Jan 21 20:02:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1682 @ 0.00061633 = 1.0367 BTC [+]
Jan 21 20:04:09 <jcpham>	i think it is a good argument to have and you should have first choice in returning funds
Jan 21 20:04:38 <jcpham>	and, if it is your intention to make mistakes punitive in nature
Jan 21 20:04:42 <jcpham>	charge a return fee
Jan 21 20:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 230 @ 0.00100006 = 0.23 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 20:18:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Jan 21 20:19:32 <smickles>	jcpham: so you guys got that wences btc signature to verify?
Jan 21 20:19:38 <smickles>	i wasn't able to
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Jan 21 20:21:52 <pigeons>	yes i used blockchain.info
Jan 21 20:22:11 <smickles>	musta been a newline issue for me
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Jan 21 20:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	they have to add headers.
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Jan 21 20:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.0006036 = 6.7 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 21:07:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 300 @ 0.01 = 3 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 21:16:41 <pigeons>	inaba says, "If they are going to take several weeks to ship a mere 300 units, only the first few people will ever see a ROI on their units. "
Jan 21 21:17:09 <pigeons>	they being avalon
Jan 21 21:17:20 <pigeons>	presumably somehow bfl customers are fine
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Jan 21 21:25:20 <dub>	lol
Jan 21 21:26:00 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 21 21:26:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.83431, Best ask: 16.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06569, Last trade: 16.83431, 24 hour volume: 53490.63449020, 24 hour low: 15.87500, 24 hour high: 16.98000, 24 hour vwap: 16.55290
Jan 21 21:26:06 <dub>	the alternative, everyone gets one and nobody recoups
Jan 21 21:26:12 <Bugpowder>	uhhh
Jan 21 21:26:18 <Bugpowder>	its going to be nobody or everybody
Jan 21 21:26:33 <Bugpowder>	nobody is going to make any money on asics
Jan 21 21:26:38 <Bugpowder>	except maybe people making them
Jan 21 21:26:41 <Bugpowder>	or scamming others
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Jan 21 21:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13644 @ 0.0006036 = 8.2355 BTC [-]
Jan 21 21:34:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7096 @ 0.00061557 = 4.3681 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 21:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00061557 = 8.8027 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 21:40:05 <Bugpowder>	Sometimes it feels like this wall will NEVER come down...  -Berlin, December 1961.   Also, tonight looking at clark moody
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Jan 21 21:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	buffett has a very nice piece explaining the economics of capital intensive businesses
Jan 21 21:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	But the promised benefits from these textile investments were
Jan 21 21:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	illusory. Many of our competitors, both domestic and foreign,
Jan 21 21:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	were stepping up to the same kind of expenditures and, once
Jan 21 21:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	enough companies did so, their reduced costs became the baseline
Jan 21 21:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	for reduced prices industrywide. Viewed individually, each com-
Jan 21 21:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	pany's capital investment decision appeared cost-effective and ra-
Jan 21 21:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	tional; viewed collectively, the decisions neutralized each other and
Jan 21 21:49:28 <mircea_popescu>	were irrational Gust as happens when each person watching a
Jan 21 21:49:30 <mircea_popescu>	parade decides he can see a little better if he stands on tiptoes).
Jan 21 21:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	After each round of investment, all the players had more money in
Jan 21 21:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	the game and returns remained anemic.
Jan 21 21:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00059946 = 4.1962 BTC [-]
Jan 21 21:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9371 @ 0.00059945 = 5.6174 BTC [-]
Jan 21 21:56:15 <Bugpowder>	The basic economic ideas of supply and demand are useful in thinking about capturing value. The common insight is that market equilibrium is where supply and demand intersect. When you analyze a business under this framework, you get one of two options: perfect competition or monopoly.
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Jan 21 21:56:31 <Bugpowder>	In perfect competition, no firms in an industry make economic profit. If there are profits to be made, firms enter the market and the profits go away. If firms are suffering economic losses, some fold and exit. So you don’t make any money. And it’s not just you; no one makes any money. In perfect competition, the scale on which you’re operating is negligible compared to the scale of the market as a whole. You might be 
Jan 21 21:56:44 <Bugpowder>	you’re a price taker
Jan 21 21:57:21 <Bugpowder>	We should wonder whether monopoly is a valid alternative paradigm in its own right. Consider great tech companies. Most have one decisive advantage—such as economies of scale or uniquely low production costs—that make them at least monopoly-esque in some important way.
Jan 21 21:58:05 <Bugpowder>	http://blakemasters.com/post/20955341708/peter-thiels-cs183-startup-class-3-notes-essay
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Jan 21 22:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.95 = 3.8 BTC [-]
Jan 21 22:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18765 @ 0.00060354 = 11.3254 BTC [+]
Jan 21 22:39:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11199 @ 0.00060005 = 6.72 BTC [-]
Jan 21 22:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7741 @ 0.00059841 = 4.6323 BTC [-]
Jan 21 22:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16609 @ 0.0005984 = 9.9388 BTC [-]
Jan 21 22:47:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
Jan 21 22:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00059841 = 9.2754 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 23:02:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00059841 = 6.8817 BTC [+]
Jan 21 23:02:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9974 @ 0.00060178 = 6.0022 BTC [+]
Jan 21 23:02:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17475 @ 0.00060254 = 10.5294 BTC [+]
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Jan 21 23:21:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6436 @ 0.0005984 = 3.8513 BTC [-]
Jan 21 23:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9914 @ 0.00059833 = 5.9318 BTC [-]
Jan 21 23:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10090 @ 0.00059885 = 6.0424 BTC [+]
Jan 21 23:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7325 @ 0.00060254 = 4.4136 BTC [+]
Jan 21 23:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8185 @ 0.00061516 = 5.0351 BTC [+]
Jan 21 23:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6286 @ 0.00059833 = 3.7611 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 23:31:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0055 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 23:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3271 @ 0.00059816 = 1.9566 BTC [-]
Jan 21 23:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11179 @ 0.00059768 = 6.6815 BTC [-]
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Jan 21 23:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12621 @ 0.00059768 = 7.5433 BTC [-]
Jan 21 23:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27929 @ 0.00059723 = 16.68 BTC [-]
Jan 21 23:52:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.51 = 5.1 BTC [-]
Jan 21 23:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8605 @ 0.00059723 = 5.1392 BTC [-]
Jan 21 23:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00059719 = 7.4052 BTC [-]
Jan 21 23:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1495 @ 0.00059642 = 0.8916 BTC [-]
Jan 22 00:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1655 @ 0.00059642 = 0.9871 BTC [-]
Jan 22 00:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00059614 = 7.6604 BTC [-]
Jan 22 00:00:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3695 @ 0.00059599 = 2.2022 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 01:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34341 @ 0.00060528 = 20.7859 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 01:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00530232 = 7.4232 BTC [+]
Jan 22 01:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6973 @ 0.00060528 = 4.2206 BTC [+]
Jan 22 01:11:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10227 @ 0.00060629 = 6.2005 BTC [+]
Jan 22 01:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident mircea_popescu
Jan 22 01:20:09 <gribble>	Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified.
Jan 22 01:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Jan 22 01:20:14 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Jan 22 01:20:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 241 @ 0.00530232 = 1.2779 BTC [+]
Jan 22 01:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2059 @ 0.00534347 = 11.0022 BTC [+]
Jan 22 01:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:adf2d557a738009c9237a79f6f8a8e12147b116ae1b36e362323a298
Jan 22 01:20:44 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Jan 22 01:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate pigeons -1 Killed my baby. http://v.gd/2ZVQQY
Jan 22 01:21:58 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user pigeons has changed from 3 to -1.
Jan 22 01:36:33 <Namworld>	That doesn't seem right.
Jan 22 01:36:58 <Namworld>	You should simply not accept rota for such cases.
Jan 22 01:37:57 <Namworld>	New terms are good tho.
Jan 22 01:38:33 <Namworld>	But you may want to be forgiving in specific cases. Example: amount looks almost accurate.
Jan 22 01:38:47 <Namworld>	Where two numbers are reversed or one was missing.
Jan 22 01:39:12 <Namworld>	An occasional typo can popup, which doesn't mean the person didn't read the instructions.
Jan 22 01:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.0006 = 20.16 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 01:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	ya well what can i say. bitcoin stuff needs certainties.
Jan 22 01:56:02 <Namworld>	No sane jurisdiction allows people to keep funds that were mis-sent/mis-placed to top it.
Jan 22 01:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	it's how bitcoin works.
Jan 22 01:56:34 *	EskimoBob is now known as EskimoBob_afk
Jan 22 01:58:18 <Namworld>	Irreversible? Maybe. Technically if someone hands you six 20 bills instead of 5 for a 100 payment, it's also irreversible if the other person doesn't hand it over. Both would require forcing the other party to give it back.
Jan 22 01:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	myeah. absent the possibility of a legal system it'll be interesting how that'll work.
Jan 22 01:59:28 <mircea_popescu>	i guess smarter people will find a solution at some point.
Jan 22 01:59:40 <Namworld>	Yes.
Jan 22 02:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, this IS horrible news for bitcoin in general.
Jan 22 02:00:52 <Namworld>	But the fact the usual can hardly not be legally enforced is no reason to not try to apply them. So long as the legislation in question makes sense.
Jan 22 02:01:27 <Namworld>	It seems to me misplaced/mis-sent funds would apply.
Jan 22 02:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	i'm really not open to publicly discussing mpex policies anymore. they are what they are and that's that.
Jan 22 02:02:36 <Namworld>	So be it.
Jan 22 02:03:04 <Namworld>	I like discussing such things tho
Jan 22 02:03:22 <Namworld>	I'll have to find something else to spend my idle time.
Jan 22 02:03:37 <Namworld>	We're pretty much done for today @ BitVPS
Jan 22 02:04:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1014 @ 0.00060629 = 0.6148 BTC [+]
Jan 22 02:04:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27486 @ 0.00060749 = 16.6975 BTC [+]
Jan 22 02:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	i'd have liked it too, but it's just not practical. mtgox keeps people's money fgor months/takes whatever out of it/etc,
Jan 22 02:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	dudes rewrite contracts to include ids and whatnot,
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Jan 22 02:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	they piss on the public and guess what ? i'm the one idiot discussing it, so im the only idiot getting it in the teeth.
Jan 22 02:07:11 <mircea_popescu>	well... there's limits to being an idiot. it's actually much cheaper to be mtgox.
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Jan 22 02:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1432 @ 0.00060749 = 0.8699 BTC [+]
Jan 22 02:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7668 @ 0.00060834 = 4.6648 BTC [+]
Jan 22 02:09:07 <Namworld>	IDs? The giga.etf thing?
Jan 22 02:10:16 <Namworld>	or MtGox did that too?
Jan 22 02:12:01 <Namworld>	I'll assume MtGox did that too considering the context
Jan 22 02:23:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20082 @ 0.00060834 = 12.2167 BTC [+]
Jan 22 02:23:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00060873 = 3.6219 BTC [+]
Jan 22 02:23:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 438 @ 0.00060979 = 0.2671 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 02:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00060734 = 5.3446 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 02:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.0006 = 9.84 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15625 @ 0.00059754 = 9.3366 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:44:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 428 @ 0.00523613 = 2.2411 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=81939.0 that sort of stuff.
Jan 22 02:49:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5475 @ 0.00059754 = 3.2715 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5505 @ 0.00059599 = 3.2809 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00059597 = 5.3041 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:49:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8355 @ 0.00059541 = 4.9747 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:54:17 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Awww.. :-( So what makes you think there was collaboration going on?
Jan 22 02:54:28 *	Guest65550 is now known as thestringpuller
Jan 22 02:54:36 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure there wasn't, in this case.
Jan 22 02:54:52 <mircea_popescu>	that doesn't change the fact that if i let things stand i can wake up tomorrow to 5000 fresh cases.
Jan 22 02:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	with perfectly nothing i can do about it.
Jan 22 02:56:01 <midnightmagic>	Then why did you rate pigeons -1?
Jan 22 02:56:14 <dub>	explain again how they get more than they put in?
Jan 22 02:56:22 <midnightmagic>	dub: Judges fees.
Jan 22 02:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00517521 = 5.1752 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:56:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1389 @ 0.0051752 = 7.1884 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.0051751 = 12.9378 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:56:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1882 @ 0.00516178 = 9.7145 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	dub passive party pays more than it receives.
Jan 22 02:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00514265 = 15.428 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2981 @ 0.00512168 = 15.2677 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00511613 = 7.1626 BTC [-]
Jan 22 02:56:44 <dub>	well yeah teh judges can game it
Jan 22 02:57:01 <midnightmagic>	dub: That's pretty much it.
Jan 22 02:57:03 <dub>	mircea_popescu: s/passive/losing
Jan 22 02:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	passive party can never be held to pay more than it received.
Jan 22 02:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	well if passive = losing then you have an extraction engine going
Jan 22 02:57:31 <dub>	welcome to justice
Jan 22 02:57:48 <dub>	its not very just
Jan 22 02:57:58 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Why was there even a "suit"? Why couldn't you just settle prior to the case and give him back his money?
Jan 22 02:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i'm off to bed. laters all.
Jan 22 02:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic because i'm the sort of idiot who tries to build people and institutions.
Jan 22 02:58:19 <midnightmagic>	Okay, g'night!
Jan 22 02:58:20 <thestringpuller>	bed?
Jan 22 02:58:21 <thestringpuller>	it's morning
Jan 22 02:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	but i shall focus on making btc instead, no problems.
Jan 22 02:58:28 <dub>	night
Jan 22 02:58:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13472 @ 0.00060734 = 8.1821 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 02:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20562 @ 0.00060979 = 12.5385 BTC [+]
Jan 22 02:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5666 @ 0.00061122 = 3.4632 BTC [+]
Jan 22 02:58:43 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: :-( I don't think you're an idiot. But i still don't understand why you rated pigeons -1.
Jan 22 02:58:47 <midnightmagic>	doh
Jan 22 02:58:58 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating pigeons
Jan 22 02:58:58 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask pigeons!~pigeons@249.69-48-199.rdns.scalabledns.com . User pigeons, rated since Sat Aug  6 07:06:19 2011. Cumulative rating 200, from 102 total ratings. Received ratings: 99 positive, 3 negative. Sent ratings: 131 positive, 15 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pigeons
Jan 22 02:59:08 <thestringpuller>	isn't pigeons a rota judge?
Jan 22 02:59:17 <midnightmagic>	Yeah he is/was.
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Jan 22 02:59:28 <midnightmagic>	Perhaps pigeons just pointed out the flaw.
Jan 22 03:00:33 <midnightmagic>	thestringpuller: Are you aware of the idiom "pulling your wire"?
Jan 22 03:04:27 <thestringpuller>	no
Jan 22 03:04:34 <thestringpuller>	my sn is a reference to the godfather movies
Jan 22 03:04:46 <midnightmagic>	thestringpuller: It's also a slang term for jerking off.
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Jan 22 03:05:20 <midnightmagic>	thestringpuller: But I think it's a brilliant, and now that you know, deliberate play on words! :)
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Jan 22 03:10:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21379 @ 0.0006037 = 12.9065 BTC [-]
Jan 22 03:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 721 @ 0.00059635 = 0.43 BTC [-]
Jan 22 03:13:30 <Namworld>	I don't get why he rated pigeons -1
Jan 22 03:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.545 = 4.905 BTC [+]
Jan 22 03:14:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
Jan 22 03:19:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3884 @ 0.00061122 = 2.374 BTC [+]
Jan 22 03:19:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11915 @ 0.00061248 = 7.2977 BTC [+]
Jan 22 03:19:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6701 @ 0.00061516 = 4.1222 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 03:48:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 880 @ 0.00507549 = 4.4664 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 03:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00060685 = 0.9406 BTC [-]
Jan 22 03:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00060121 = 3.2465 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 04:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1793 @ 0.00507549 = 9.1004 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 04:35:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6395 @ 0.00059867 = 3.8285 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 04:38:10 <sturmdrang>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Jan 22 04:38:11 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 39 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> but i shall focus on making btc instead, no problems.
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Jan 22 04:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 177 @ 0.00507549 = 0.8984 BTC [-]
Jan 22 04:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11464 @ 0.00061516 = 7.0522 BTC [+]
Jan 22 04:48:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17626 @ 0.00061557 = 10.85 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 04:56:35 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 22 04:56:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.72001, Best ask: 16.74000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 16.74000, 24 hour volume: 52402.27836546, 24 hour low: 16.10000, 24 hour high: 16.98000, 24 hour vwap: 16.65674
Jan 22 04:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10358 @ 0.00061303 = 6.3498 BTC [-]
Jan 22 04:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22165 @ 0.00059672 = 13.2263 BTC [-]
Jan 22 05:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00061557 = 5.4786 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 05:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3785 @ 0.00059672 = 2.2586 BTC [-]
Jan 22 05:03:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22865 @ 0.00059635 = 13.6355 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 05:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1166 @ 0.00522 = 6.0865 BTC [+]
Jan 22 05:17:34 <pigeons>	ok so in that post by mircea he admits that instead of settling this he thought it would be a good opportunity to "promote the rota"
Jan 22 05:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 959 @ 0.00061557 = 0.5903 BTC [+]
Jan 22 05:17:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2412 @ 0.00061633 = 1.4866 BTC [+]
Jan 22 05:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6729 @ 0.000617 = 4.1518 BTC [+]
Jan 22 05:18:18 <pigeons>	that upset me because i thought private dispute mediation was a good idea and took it seriously and it was undermined from the start
Jan 22 05:18:56 <pigeons>	not to mention the outcome of the case mircea could win money that wasnt his, or if he lost "promote the rota" but he's still upset i hear
Jan 22 05:20:51 <pigeons>	i guess the doubters were right and it was intended to be a sham from the start. mircea privately encouraged me to apply for a judge
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Jan 22 05:29:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11104 @ 0.00061351 = 6.8124 BTC [-]
Jan 22 05:33:09 <sturmdrang>	pigeons: micrea_popescu owes you and jpcham an apology. His behavior in this whole incident is bizarre.
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Jan 22 05:33:50 <pigeons>	well thanks sturmdrang, I'm not holding my breath
Jan 22 05:34:18 <sturmdrang>	I'm actually genuinely surprised by his outburst.
Jan 22 05:34:53 <sturmdrang>	I can't believe he took this test case so seriously
Jan 22 05:35:05 <sturmdrang>	And your decision was completely reasonable
Jan 22 05:36:21 <pigeons>	yeah i'm suprised cause i don't see another way to do it. i can see charging a processing fee, but that's not a place of the rota in this particular instance
Jan 22 05:37:17 <pigeons>	im suprised that he actually expected the judges to rule what he thinks, i hoped he intended for some impartiality
Jan 22 05:37:19 <sturmdrang>	he claims that this judgement opens the door to fraud from judges, which is insanely paranoid
Jan 22 05:38:03 <sturmdrang>	he takes the exceptional case (potential fraud from judges) and worries that it would be the principal ase
Jan 22 05:38:04 <sturmdrang>	case
Jan 22 05:38:38 <sturmdrang>	Yeah, he expects the judges to share his same rigid worldview
Jan 22 05:39:16 <pigeons>	if there is a flaw allowing gaming by judges it doesn't affect the right decision in this instance
Jan 22 05:40:37 <sturmdrang>	Agreed. The plaintiff shouldn't have to pay anything to get his money back, which was deposited in good faith.
Jan 22 05:41:39 <sturmdrang>	Everyone makes mistakes, but mircea seems to think that if he doesn't have this restrictive policy, then he'll be flooded with bad deposits, which is highly questionable.
Jan 22 05:42:20 <sturmdrang>	What pisses me off is that the Rota was *his* idea, and he invited you to judge!
Jan 22 05:43:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14954 @ 0.000617 = 9.2266 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 05:45:39 <sturmdrang>	like, he's actually bitter about it... he gave you a -1 rating
Jan 22 05:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5795 @ 0.000617 = 3.5755 BTC [+]
Jan 22 05:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20695 @ 0.00061705 = 12.7698 BTC [+]
Jan 22 05:47:14 <sturmdrang>	I think the guy is a great success, but bizarre behavior like this is bad for business and has me worried about my investment.
Jan 22 05:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00061705 = 5.9854 BTC [+]
Jan 22 05:49:03 <pigeons>	he is going to pop one day like a steamwhistle
Jan 22 05:49:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14766 @ 0.00061351 = 9.0591 BTC [-]
Jan 22 05:49:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11334 @ 0.00060413 = 6.8472 BTC [-]
Jan 22 05:49:56 <sturmdrang>	hopefully not soon
Jan 22 05:50:36 <pigeons>	yeah :)
Jan 22 05:50:38 <sturmdrang>	not while I've got my BTC in MPEx :)
Jan 22 05:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4705 @ 0.00061705 = 2.9032 BTC [+]
Jan 22 05:50:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10154 @ 0.00061716 = 6.2666 BTC [+]
Jan 22 05:50:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9115 @ 0.00061727 = 5.6264 BTC [+]
Jan 22 05:54:41 <leotreasure>	can someone please summarise what's been going on with mpex lately?
Jan 22 05:54:55 <leotreasure>	i gather there was some kind of court case
Jan 22 05:55:06 <leotreasure>	was that happening irl?
Jan 22 06:01:27 <pigeons>	leotreasure: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
Jan 22 06:02:53 <sturmdrang>	leotreasure: mircea_popescu organised a panel of volunteer judges to form an informal court called the "rota" which was intended to resolve disputes in BTC land. The first case involved a hapless mpex depositor who accidentally sent a rounded amount (130.0) to mpex, which is in violation of the terms and conditions (the fractional amount is supposed to be exactly as specified by mpex for identification purposes)
Jan 22 06:02:54 <pigeons>	leotreasure: mpex started a private "court", told a customer he must sue there to get relief, mpex lost, MP is upset because he thought claimant should pay some fees at least? actually not sure what his desired outcome was
Jan 22 06:03:46 <sturmdrang>	so it goes before the judges (jpcham and pigeons), who then find that the plaintiff can prove his identity, and should be awarded his 130BTC plus 10BTC cost for the rota judgement.
Jan 22 06:04:45 <pigeons>	rassah was also a judge. plaintiff signed a message from the address that sent the funds and had the exact amount from the encrypted DEPOSIT response from mpex
Jan 22 06:05:59 <sturmdrang>	MP thinks the decision to award the 10BTC rota fee to the plaintiff will lead to a flood of fraudulent claims by judges and co-conspirators.
Jan 22 06:06:30 <sturmdrang>	Because the judges each receive a 3BTC fee that would be paid by mpex.
Jan 22 06:06:37 <pigeons>	i wonder if he really thinks that?
Jan 22 06:06:44 <sturmdrang>	That's what he said
Jan 22 06:06:50 <pigeons>	yeah
Jan 22 06:06:58 <sturmdrang>	it's crazy, I agree
Jan 22 06:07:34 <sturmdrang>	do you think he's just covering for the fact that he doesn't think the plaintiff should get anything?
Jan 22 06:10:05 <pigeons>	i dont know
Jan 22 06:12:43 <pigeons>	i think it would be nice and clean to say the plaintiff gets nothing, but that's not how contracts have ever worked, we was acting in good faith and made an error
Jan 22 06:12:57 <pigeons>	/we/he
Jan 22 06:13:50 <sturmdrang>	Yes. The truth is, mircea's policy of keeping the money is unreasonable... in the extreme.
Jan 22 06:14:43 <pigeons>	i would keep the policy just to scare people into being careful, but when they show you they really sent it, you gotta fix it
Jan 22 06:15:13 <sturmdrang>	Exactly. That's how it works normally. But he's a purist.
Jan 22 06:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13035 @ 0.00061727 = 8.0461 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1865 @ 0.00061744 = 1.1515 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:18:18 <pigeons>	I'm sure more people are lining up to do business with someone who says you have to sue him to get customer service
Jan 22 06:18:39 <sturmdrang>	lol - that's a good way to put it
Jan 22 06:20:20 <sturmdrang>	I just hope that I never make a bloody mistake with mpex. So far so good. But given enough time, I'm sure I will.
Jan 22 06:23:28 <pigeons>	i had already learned from observation, for example F.GIGA that MP will not look out for your interests as much as you would expect of anyone else. I'm not saying that's wrong, at least he's consistent, but i won't make the mistake of thinking, "oh he'll take care of things"
Jan 22 06:25:39 <sturmdrang>	I think he sees going the extra mile as being sloppy, because it's not governed by a contract. He's all about contracts.
Jan 22 06:25:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22340 @ 0.00061744 = 13.7936 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:25:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3336 @ 0.00061769 = 2.0606 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:25:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5824 @ 0.00061811 = 3.5999 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:27:19 <pigeons>	haha he must be mad to downrate me though, that is pretty shitty
Jan 22 06:28:07 <pigeons>	already there was concern of impartiality since mpex is paying the judges and selected them, now if you rule against mpex you will also be downrated
Jan 22 06:28:36 <pigeons>	we disagree all the time i doubt this will be a problem though
Jan 22 06:28:44 <sturmdrang>	I think that's what surprises me most... that's he's actually angry at an honest decision made by a panel that *he* put together, to the point that he penalizes your WOT rating
Jan 22 06:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7926 @ 0.00061811 = 4.8991 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00061818 = 2.1636 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2233 @ 0.00061887 = 1.3819 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:34:11 <sturmdrang>	I'm glad you're not too sore about it.... I'm just surprised with the -1, that shows that he was emotional about it I think.
Jan 22 06:34:41 <sturmdrang>	Anyway, he makes me money, and he's entertaining, so this is all much ado about nothing I guess.
Jan 22 06:35:17 <pigeons>	at the end of the day, wences got his money back and mircea got everybody talking about him, so everytone gets what they wanted
Jan 22 06:35:45 <sturmdrang>	ha, so true
Jan 22 06:36:56 <sturmdrang>	time for bed
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Jan 22 06:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18667 @ 0.00061887 = 11.5524 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:44:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7452 @ 0.00061889 = 4.612 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9211 @ 0.0006189 = 5.7007 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2613 @ 0.000619 = 1.6174 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:44:45 <leotreasure>	thanks for explanation
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Jan 22 06:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7749 @ 0.000619 = 4.7966 BTC [+]
Jan 22 06:52:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16829 @ 0.00062025 = 10.4382 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 07:17:09 <jackmaninov>	guess we're going up to $17.4
Jan 22 07:19:09 <azx>	btc is getting ready for dumping?
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Jan 22 07:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12721 @ 0.00062025 = 7.8902 BTC [+]
Jan 22 07:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23442 @ 0.00062089 = 14.5549 BTC [+]
Jan 22 07:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5040 @ 0.00062144 = 3.1321 BTC [+]
Jan 22 07:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00062181 = 4.7879 BTC [+]
Jan 22 07:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00062192 = 7.1832 BTC [+]
Jan 22 07:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062255 = 4.4824 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 07:27:31 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 22 07:27:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.16000, Best ask: 17.21349, Bid-ask spread: 0.05349, Last trade: 17.25000, 24 hour volume: 58352.02288017, 24 hour low: 16.10000, 24 hour high: 17.25000, 24 hour vwap: 16.72160
Jan 22 07:27:35 <Bugpowder>	ooo
Jan 22 07:27:56 <jackmaninov>	bang zoom, straight to the moon
Jan 22 07:27:58 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 17
Jan 22 07:28:00 <gribble>	There are currently 2160.1355 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 36822.1670218 USD in total.
Jan 22 07:28:01 <jackmaninov>	;;ticker
Jan 22 07:28:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.16102, Best ask: 17.26280, Bid-ask spread: 0.10178, Last trade: 17.16100, 24 hour volume: 58377.76935704, 24 hour low: 16.10000, 24 hour high: 17.30000, 24 hour vwap: 16.72261
Jan 22 07:28:13 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 17.90
Jan 22 07:28:15 <gribble>	There are currently 7738.3303 bitcoins offered at or under 17.9 USD, worth 135971.146354 USD in total.
Jan 22 07:28:29 <jackmaninov>	here comes 17.4
Jan 22 07:28:35 <Bugpowder>	I have 1000 C160Ts
Jan 22 07:28:47 <Bugpowder>	and -380 P200Ts
Jan 22 07:28:52 <Bugpowder>	come on rally!
Jan 22 07:29:14 <Bugpowder>	Wake up, say a prayer to FSM, check ticker
Jan 22 07:29:42 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 22 07:29:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.19101, Best ask: 17.29482, Bid-ask spread: 0.10381, Last trade: 17.19101, 24 hour volume: 58083.76362550, 24 hour low: 16.10000, 24 hour high: 17.35706, 24 hour vwap: 16.72388
Jan 22 07:30:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.00522 = 14.094 BTC [+]
Jan 22 07:32:13 <jackmaninov>	wish I had some cash on Virtex; there's a few $K in CAD for 16.5
Jan 22 07:34:03 <Bugpowder>	yah, all those other exchanges better catch up.... don't want my ;;bc;24hrpc to lag
Jan 22 07:34:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00062255 = 1.5875 BTC [+]
Jan 22 07:34:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18021 @ 0.0006229 = 11.2253 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 07:36:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00061569 = 13.0526 BTC [-]
Jan 22 07:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11662 @ 0.00061544 = 7.1773 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 07:37:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31950 @ 0.00061305 = 19.5869 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 07:43:02 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 22 07:43:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.47400, Best ask: 17.48813, Bid-ask spread: 0.01413, Last trade: 17.47400, 24 hour volume: 60809.28054126, 24 hour low: 16.10000, 24 hour high: 17.49800, 24 hour vwap: 16.76237
Jan 22 07:43:07 <Bugpowder>	yeeeeeah
Jan 22 07:43:26 <Bugpowder>	thru the 17.41 wall
Jan 22 07:43:36 <jackmaninov>	chewing on 17.5 now
Jan 22 07:43:54 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 17.99
Jan 22 07:43:55 <gribble>	There are currently 3543.243 bitcoins offered at or under 17.99 USD, worth 62682.6351393 USD in total.
Jan 22 07:44:02 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 18.99
Jan 22 07:44:04 <gribble>	There are currently 13209.806 bitcoins offered at or under 18.99 USD, worth 241929.370841 USD in total.
Jan 22 07:44:06 <jackmaninov>	someone's hungry today
Jan 22 07:44:31 <jackmaninov>	that's about $210k in the past 30 minutes
Jan 22 07:45:10 <Bugpowder>	I can believe my impulsive options play might work... I always lose money when impulsively trading
Jan 22 07:45:20 <jackmaninov>	best of luck :)
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Jan 22 07:48:50 <jackmaninov>	wonder if we're moving on the confirmation of BoJ's 2% inflation target
Jan 22 07:50:28 <azx>	17.4 :) fuck, I am work millions LOL
Jan 22 07:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8188 @ 0.00061305 = 5.0197 BTC [-]
Jan 22 07:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1889 @ 0.0006229 = 1.1767 BTC [+]
Jan 22 07:52:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10823 @ 0.00062356 = 6.7488 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 07:55:51 <jackmaninov>	ooh, ooh, GOXUSD seems to be alive again
Jan 22 07:56:19 <Bugpowder>	I don't want to jinx it, but...  That wall at 19.80.... if it goes down, there is NOTHING above it
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Jan 22 07:57:19 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 95
Jan 22 07:57:21 <gribble>	There are currently 53972.051 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 1263782.03658 USD in total.
Jan 22 07:57:31 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 20
Jan 22 07:57:33 <gribble>	There are currently 35473.436 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 683989.224699 USD in total.
Jan 22 07:57:49 <jackmaninov>	i don't think we want the price to move $6 in an hour thanks
Jan 22 07:58:06 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 22 07:58:15 <Bugpowder>	I want maximum price
Jan 22 07:58:17 <Bugpowder>	MAXIMUM
Jan 22 07:58:57 <Bugpowder>	probably not getting thru 19.75-20 tho
Jan 22 08:02:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 6 @ 0.39 = 2.34 BTC [-]
Jan 22 08:02:44 <jackmaninov>	does anyone know the proper character set that ljrbot posts with in #bitcoin-watch? I get funky characters in the ticker unless I set weird character sets like ISO-2022-JP
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Jan 22 08:07:21 <pigeons>	jackmaninov: tonal
Jan 22 08:07:33 <pigeons>	;;google tonal font gentoo lukejr
Jan 22 08:07:34 <gribble>	Community Office/Community device program/Nokia - MeeGo wiki: <http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program/Nokia>
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Jan 22 08:08:24 <jackmaninov>	pigeons: lolersk8s
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Jan 22 08:13:43 <pigeons>	https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/1061120
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Jan 22 08:32:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1703 @ 0.00521999 = 8.8896 BTC [-]
Jan 22 08:34:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3799 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 08:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16077 @ 0.00062356 = 10.025 BTC [+]
Jan 22 08:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5023 @ 0.0006236 = 3.1323 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 08:41:02 <Diablo-D3>	you know
Jan 22 08:41:09 <Diablo-D3>	whatever happened to that black guy that was harassing people
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Jan 22 08:49:47 <azx>	Diablo-D3: usually they get shot dead
Jan 22 08:50:17 <Diablo-D3>	probably =/
Jan 22 08:51:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00061869 = 9.1566 BTC [-]
Jan 22 08:51:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5915 @ 0.00061494 = 3.6374 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 09:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23762 @ 0.00062347 = 14.8149 BTC [+]
Jan 22 09:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15677 @ 0.0006236 = 9.7762 BTC [+]
Jan 22 09:09:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26850 @ 0.00062386 = 16.7506 BTC [+]
Jan 22 09:09:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26511 @ 0.00062531 = 16.5776 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 09:19:56 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 22 09:19:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.45000, Best ask: 17.45579, Bid-ask spread: 0.00579, Last trade: 17.45000, 24 hour volume: 57402.43046646, 24 hour low: 16.49111, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 16.90745
Jan 22 09:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00518898 = 3.1134 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 09:25:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00061934 = 6.7198 BTC [-]
Jan 22 09:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00061617 = 3.1425 BTC [-]
Jan 22 09:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3127 @ 0.00061494 = 1.9229 BTC [-]
Jan 22 09:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00061255 = 7.5037 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 09:28:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3146 @ 0.0006102 = 1.9197 BTC [-]
Jan 22 09:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8654 @ 0.00062531 = 5.4114 BTC [+]
Jan 22 09:33:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2885 @ 0.00062531 = 1.804 BTC [+]
Jan 22 09:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13898 @ 0.00062537 = 8.6914 BTC [+]
Jan 22 09:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13902 @ 0.00062537 = 8.6939 BTC [+]
Jan 22 09:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14344 @ 0.00062585 = 8.9772 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 09:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1418 @ 0.00062585 = 0.8875 BTC [+]
Jan 22 09:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15682 @ 0.00062613 = 9.819 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 10:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00061514 = 5.567 BTC [-]
Jan 22 10:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00060874 = 7.8832 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 10:01:30 <Korbman>	;;ticker
Jan 22 10:01:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.20002, Best ask: 17.22569, Bid-ask spread: 0.02567, Last trade: 17.22570, 24 hour volume: 60692.49067912, 24 hour low: 16.49111, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 16.93719
Jan 22 10:01:38 <Korbman>	well holy shit
Jan 22 10:10:16 <topace>	indeed
Jan 22 10:10:19 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 22 10:10:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.51000000 / 0.52959158 / 0.56000000 (95 shares, 50.31120000 BTC), 7D: 0.48000000 / 0.52212476 / 0.62000000 (719 shares, 375.40769990 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.46375606 / 0.62000000 (3994 shares, 1852.24169988 BTC)
Jan 22 10:10:49 <topace>	!ticker mpex sdice
Jan 22 10:10:50 <assbot>	The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy.
Jan 22 10:10:53 <topace>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 22 10:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00507549 / 0.0052209 / 0.0053558 (49853 shares, 260.28 BTC), 7D: 0.00454703 / 0.00485844 / 0.00598999 (1457136 shares, 7,079.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00325183 / 0.00415694 / 0.00598999 (9482976 shares, 39,420.23 BTC)
Jan 22 10:18:51 <Korbman>	seems to be pretty on par so far
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Jan 22 10:20:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3799 = 0.7598 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 10:29:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9424 @ 0.00061464 = 5.7924 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 10:33:45 <turbo_ac100>	hi there. Is there a RSS feed for bbet?
Jan 22 10:34:07 <kakobrekla>	hey
Jan 22 10:34:32 <kakobrekla>	no rss feed at the moment
Jan 22 10:34:58 *	turbo_ac100 sad
Jan 22 10:34:59 <kakobrekla>	im looking into which media ill choose for propagating bets
Jan 22 10:35:18 <turbo_ac100>	kakobrekla, you are from bbet?
Jan 22 10:35:23 <kakobrekla>	yes
Jan 22 10:35:55 <turbo_ac100>	kakobrekla, owner? programmer?
Jan 22 10:36:26 <turbo_ac100>	anyway I really like bbet. and more so than betsofbitco.in ;)
Jan 22 10:37:40 <kakobrekla>	turbo_ac100, me and mircea_popescu are the owners, in case you missed you can buy shares of it and stuff http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET
Jan 22 10:37:52 <kakobrekla>	im the developer of it yeah also
Jan 22 10:37:59 <turbo_ac100>	right now I use page2rss for the feed.
Jan 22 10:38:01 <kakobrekla>	and thanks
Jan 22 10:38:34 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Jan 22 10:38:47 <turbo_ac100>	Yeah I'm buying shares passthrough on litecoinglobal right now
Jan 22 10:39:00 <kakobrekla>	how about irc stream?
Jan 22 10:39:16 <kakobrekla>	would you use that?
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Jan 22 10:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00061938 = 7.1229 BTC [+]
Jan 22 10:39:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6477 @ 0.00062613 = 4.0554 BTC [+]
Jan 22 10:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15073 @ 0.00062676 = 9.4472 BTC [+]
Jan 22 10:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13564 @ 0.00062739 = 8.5099 BTC [+]
Jan 22 10:40:11 <turbo_ac100>	Well, where I normally read news is RSS and to a lesser degree twitter. So for me it would add one extra source of news inlet.
Jan 22 10:40:20 <turbo_ac100>	So I probably wouldn't use it
Jan 22 10:40:44 <jcpham>	mmmmhmmmm
Jan 22 10:41:36 <jcpham>	if anyone killed your baby mircea_popescu i did
Jan 22 10:41:47 <kakobrekla>	ill add it to to-do then turbo_ac100
Jan 22 10:42:03 <turbo_ac100>	kakobrekla, thanks a lot!
Jan 22 10:42:11 <kakobrekla>	sure
Jan 22 10:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 190 @ 0.00521999 = 0.9918 BTC [+]
Jan 22 10:42:31 *	turbo_ac100 will buy S.BBET now ;)
Jan 22 10:43:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 10:48:12 <jurov>	lol, irl ponzi schemes: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sk&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sk&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkosice.korzar.sme.sk%2Fc%2F6671995%2Fhorizont-vyplaca-z-kazdych-sto-eur-vrati-styri.html
Jan 22 10:50:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0055 = 0.0165 BTC [-]
Jan 22 10:50:52 <jurov>	wonders any bitcoin ponzi will return 4.5%
Jan 22 10:54:34 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 22 10:54:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.33000, Best ask: 17.33997, Bid-ask spread: 0.00997, Last trade: 17.33997, 24 hour volume: 56259.11066762, 24 hour low: 16.51001, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 16.96477
Jan 22 10:54:47 <smickles>	jeez criminey
Jan 22 10:57:50 <jcpham>	24 hour gox volume seems to hold from day to day too
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Jan 22 10:59:00 <mircea_popescu>	you all killed mah babe!
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Jan 22 10:59:24 <smickles>	the last time this happened, there was some horrible news brewing that crashed the rally
Jan 22 10:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what was that ?
Jan 22 10:59:50 <smickles>	pirate
Jan 22 11:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Jan 22 11:00:24 <smickles>	it's close to an identical rise on the chart too
Jan 22 11:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	was that mid rally ?
Jan 22 11:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	well i guess we have bfl as a potential... tho i doubt they'll announce anything.
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Jan 22 11:01:23 <smickles>	a bunch of the 'technicals' are different tho
Jan 22 11:02:05 <smickles>	but i bring it up because that was a bad news event on a significant (relatively) quick rise
Jan 22 11:03:05 <smickles>	what was the final precursor last time? a bunch of puts bought, calls sold?
Jan 22 11:03:20 <mircea_popescu>	i don't even remember ;/
Jan 22 11:03:27 <mircea_popescu>	o yeah, yeah i do
Jan 22 11:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	there was large open call interest since early days of month
Jan 22 11:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	then puts sold short
Jan 22 11:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	days/week before the drop
Jan 22 11:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	then calls sold as the drop happened and puts covered/going long
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Jan 22 11:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00062885 = 6.8545 BTC [+]
Jan 22 11:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137923.0 there, that may be it.
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Jan 22 11:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00062885 = 9.0554 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 11:19:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00062885 = 5.6597 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 11:20:03 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 22 11:20:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.39501, Best ask: 17.39900, Bid-ask spread: 0.00399, Last trade: 17.39900, 24 hour volume: 56302.89909831, 24 hour low: 16.51001, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 16.97526
Jan 22 11:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	whoa nelly.
Jan 22 11:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	another day, another dolla.
Jan 22 11:22:12 <pigeons>	Now I withdrew from mtgox a long time ago \ Don't you see how late they're reactin' \ They only come and they come when they wanna
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Jan 22 11:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22683 @ 0.00062875 = 14.2619 BTC [-]
Jan 22 11:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8517 @ 0.00062066 = 5.2862 BTC [-]
Jan 22 11:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3867 @ 0.00062885 = 2.4318 BTC [+]
Jan 22 11:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16883 @ 0.00062913 = 10.6216 BTC [+]
Jan 22 11:32:40 <mircea_popescu>	so did avalons arrive yet ?
Jan 22 11:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00062913 = 3.4288 BTC [+]
Jan 22 11:35:27 <Korbman>	Not yet...I figured people would start getting them next week, though it depends on how they shipped
Jan 22 11:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	o, wait, avalon ships from china ?
Jan 22 11:38:51 <jurov>	not even tracking numbers available
Jan 22 11:40:54 <Korbman>	yeah
Jan 22 11:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	this is a deliberate attempt to drive people nuts.
Jan 22 11:44:59 <jurov>	also, one would say for 1.5k they'll find a better case than this: http://launch.avalon-asics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/DSC00517-1024x680.jpg
Jan 22 11:45:27 <jurov>	lol, DIY kit would be better
Jan 22 11:45:32 <Korbman>	haha
Jan 22 11:46:00 <Korbman>	I've got mixed feeling about a giant 400w steel box running only 66GH/s..
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Jan 22 11:46:30 <Korbman>	I suppose that's the result of 110nm processes
Jan 22 11:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	Korbman you'd prefer a fan box running inaba's hot air ?
Jan 22 11:47:10 <Korbman>	Ha, for the sake of argument let's pretend everyone ships
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Jan 22 11:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	that box actually looks like the custom power unit i had for my old z80
Jan 22 11:47:40 <mircea_popescu>	back in the late 80s
Jan 22 11:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	iirc z80s are 110nm ?
Jan 22 11:48:57 <Diablo-D3>	z80s are many nm
Jan 22 11:49:06 <Diablo-D3>	110nm is too low for original ones though
Jan 22 11:49:29 <Diablo-D3>	probably 200-300m,
Jan 22 11:49:31 <Diablo-D3>	nm
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Jan 22 11:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	a was it ?
Jan 22 11:50:26 <Diablo-D3>	they still make z80s, btw
Jan 22 11:50:31 <mircea_popescu>	im sure.
Jan 22 11:50:33 <Diablo-D3>	they're very popular for 8 bit microcontrollers
Jan 22 11:50:41 <Korbman>	4000nm I think
Jan 22 11:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	yeah ui was gonna say, it was a good 8 bit design
Jan 22 11:50:48 <Diablo-D3>	Korbman: 4000nm? wtf dude
Jan 22 11:50:53 <Korbman>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor_count
Jan 22 11:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	he means 400 lol
Jan 22 11:51:04 <Diablo-D3>	400nm seems too high
Jan 22 11:51:06 <Diablo-D3>	not for late 80s
Jan 22 11:51:18 <Korbman>	early Z80 was 4 micrometers
Jan 22 11:51:20 <Diablo-D3>	lemme go look it up myself
Jan 22 11:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	z80 was > 8080 iirc
Jan 22 11:51:31 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: ~= really
Jan 22 11:51:38 <Diablo-D3>	its a 8080 clone with 8086ish features tacked on
Jan 22 11:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	well at least that's what thye claimed
Jan 22 11:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	and i believed it!
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Jan 22 11:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, this was like 1988 and shit, not the early zilogs
Jan 22 11:52:30 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: btw, I think they still make 6502s too
Jan 22 11:52:33 <Korbman>	So yes...4000nm
Jan 22 11:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if bfl next step, after tackling the android miner market, is to make z80 miner software.
Jan 22 11:53:22 <asa1024>	bwhaha
Jan 22 11:56:27 <jurov>	so, asics scams may burst the upcoming bubble
Jan 22 11:56:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37833 @ 0.00062066 = 23.4814 BTC [-]
Jan 22 11:56:57 <Diablo-D3>	okay I was wrong
Jan 22 11:57:12 <Diablo-D3>	if it was late 80s, it could have been 1000nm
Jan 22 11:57:25 <Diablo-D3>	350 didnt become into existence until 1995
Jan 22 11:57:45 <Diablo-D3>	1500 came into existence in 1982, 1000 in 1985, 800 in 1989
Jan 22 11:57:53 <Diablo-D3>	3000 in 1975
Jan 22 11:58:16 <Diablo-D3>	which means orginal z80s and 6502s and whatnot would have been that size
Jan 22 11:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	a hey. hattip to Korbman
Jan 22 11:58:47 <Diablo-D3>	he said 4, not 3.
Jan 22 11:58:54 <Diablo-D3>	there seems to be no size of 4.
Jan 22 11:59:09 <Diablo-D3>	went from 10 in 71 to 3 in 75
Jan 22 11:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	ya well he had something of a right idea.
Jan 22 11:59:23 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: he only gets it right for original gen ones
Jan 22 11:59:27 <Diablo-D3>	you didnt have an original gen one
Jan 22 11:59:33 <Diablo-D3>	probably one of a thousand clones
Jan 22 12:00:20 <jurov>	lol, when looking closely on the rightmost fan on http://launch.avalon-asics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/DSC00517.jpg
Jan 22 12:00:26 <jurov>	seems nothign is inside
Jan 22 12:00:37 <Diablo-D3>	right most?
Jan 22 12:00:46 <Diablo-D3>	calibrate your screen
Jan 22 12:00:50 <Diablo-D3>	I can see all three fans clearly
Jan 22 12:01:09 <jurov>	okay, now calibrate youe eyes and try to look between its blades
Jan 22 12:01:18 <Diablo-D3>	well yes, its an empty case
Jan 22 12:01:23 <Diablo-D3>	oh, is that what you ment?
Jan 22 12:01:25 <jurov>	yes
Jan 22 12:01:29 <Diablo-D3>	hah.
Jan 22 12:01:40 <Diablo-D3>	I thought you meant an empty fan slot
Jan 22 12:02:05 <Korbman>	don't thank me, thank google haha
Jan 22 12:02:57 <Diablo-D3>	oh wow
Jan 22 12:02:59 <Diablo-D3>	I didnt know this
Jan 22 12:03:13 <Diablo-D3>	wikipedia has an entire article on the fab process
Jan 22 12:03:19 <Diablo-D3>	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_fabrication
Jan 22 12:04:33 <kakobrekla>	if micon is in the wiki, fab process will be too.
Jan 22 12:04:43 <Diablo-D3>	well Ive never came across it before
Jan 22 12:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	omg moar fan cases ?!
Jan 22 12:06:30 <Diablo-D3>	well, it depends how well packed they make that
Jan 22 12:06:46 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: btw, that might not be empty
Jan 22 12:07:06 <Diablo-D3>	the whole case I mean
Jan 22 12:07:24 <Diablo-D3>	that could be the spot for a psu
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Jan 22 12:07:51 <jurov>	at least why there is so much light? looks like whole rear side isn't there
Jan 22 12:08:09 <Diablo-D3>	well, if its an empty psu slot, you know how big atx slots are
Jan 22 12:12:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00061521 = 7.1057 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00061505 = 11.7167 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 12:22:05 <jcpham>	i bet a pre-order one in the next round
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Jan 22 12:26:09 <Korbman>	but look at how the light reflects in on the furthest fan as well
Jan 22 12:27:02 <Korbman>	the case doesn't seem to have a backing
Jan 22 12:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it's just the cover
Jan 22 12:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5499998 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:32:25 <Korbman>	meh probably
Jan 22 12:33:00 <Korbman>	BFL pulled the same empty case stunt, and I don't really care that it's empty to begin with. It's just there to try and appease some of the people looking for pics
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Jan 22 12:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	im not entirely sure what'd appease them. maybe one of those go-pro cams attached to an employee's head
Jan 22 12:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	with direct feed
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Jan 22 12:40:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6819 @ 0.00061592 = 4.2 BTC [+]
Jan 22 12:40:35 <Korbman>	ha, probably not even that
Jan 22 12:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	cause it wouldn't work in the toilet, right ? so it'd be clearly shenanigans there.
Jan 22 12:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 22 12:44:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.37001, Best ask: 17.44300, Bid-ask spread: 0.07299, Last trade: 17.37001, 24 hour volume: 56123.22404659, 24 hour low: 16.51001, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.01255
Jan 22 12:46:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2621 @ 0.00521998 = 13.6816 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.0052 = 0.0208 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0051 = 0.0255 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.005 = 0.05 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0049 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.0049 = 0.0441 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0049 = 0.049 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0048 = 0.048 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 451 @ 0.0046 = 2.0746 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28781 @ 0.00061592 = 17.7268 BTC [+]
Jan 22 12:51:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00061505 = 4.9819 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 376 @ 0.00061464 = 0.2311 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22599 @ 0.0006141 = 13.878 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00060874 = 7.244 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3652 @ 0.00060809 = 2.2207 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 12:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2748 @ 0.00060809 = 1.671 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00060807 = 7.4793 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:56:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14212 @ 0.00060796 = 8.6403 BTC [-]
Jan 22 12:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8590 @ 0.00060483 = 5.1955 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 13:00:17 <pigeons>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/01/22/bitcoin-casinos-release-2012-earnings/
Jan 22 13:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	Operating expenses were minimal in 2012 and the company also paid monthly bitcoin dividends to ‘public’ shareholders which represent 10% of the total 100,000,000 outstanding shares. To invest in the operator and bet on the house, SatoshiDice shares are traded on the MPEx bitcoin stock exchange under ticker symbol S.DICE (see August 19th, 2012 Prospectus). At the current exchange rate of $17.00 per BTC, SatoshiDice
Jan 22 13:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	is a company valued at $8.9 million.
Jan 22 13:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	teh wow.
Jan 22 13:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00061878 = 5.8475 BTC [+]
Jan 22 13:03:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00061925 = 21.1164 BTC [+]
Jan 22 13:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00521998 = 11.484 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 13:14:44 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-title-is-in-the-pudding/ you in the race too ?
Jan 22 13:17:36 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Jan 22 13:17:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8565 @ 0.00060483 = 5.1804 BTC [-]
Jan 22 13:17:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13235 @ 0.00060413 = 7.9957 BTC [-]
Jan 22 13:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Jan 22 13:18:43 <mircea_popescu>	first at #1 wins!
Jan 22 13:30:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.00060702 = 13.9918 BTC [+]
Jan 22 13:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2341 @ 0.00521997 = 12.2199 BTC [-]
Jan 22 13:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28736 @ 0.00060702 = 17.4433 BTC [+]
Jan 22 13:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00060783 = 7.0204 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 13:48:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40670 @ 0.00060702 = 24.6875 BTC [-]
Jan 22 13:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3881 @ 0.00060413 = 2.3446 BTC [-]
Jan 22 13:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3652 @ 0.00060354 = 2.2041 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 13:52:04 <Korbman>	;;ticker
Jan 22 13:52:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.50000, Best ask: 17.50001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 17.56066, 24 hour volume: 57362.31021214, 24 hour low: 16.51001, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.04055
Jan 22 13:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22250 @ 0.00060354 = 13.4288 BTC [-]
Jan 22 13:59:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 84 @ 0.009 = 0.756 BTC [+]
Jan 22 14:00:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0091 = 0.91 BTC [+]
Jan 22 14:01:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0092 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Jan 22 14:02:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 22 @ 0.0092 = 0.2024 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 14:35:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6343 @ 0.00060658 = 3.8475 BTC [+]
Jan 22 14:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00060783 = 2.8264 BTC [+]
Jan 22 14:42:52 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: You should file for a change of venue next time. #bitcoin-court! :-)
Jan 22 14:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	i think i'm done with experiments in the people range.
Jan 22 14:43:22 <midnightmagic>	volunteer judges, fire and brimstone, damnation!
Jan 22 14:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	i think the best way forward is if one of the lawschools does a summer project for this
Jan 22 14:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's just not practical to conscript people off the street for playing the legal scholar.
Jan 22 14:45:10 <midnightmagic>	Actually, that's exactly what happens with justices of the peace.
Jan 22 14:45:20 <midnightmagic>	6 month course, if that, and voila.
Jan 22 14:45:24 <midnightmagic>	You're a JP.
Jan 22 14:45:55 <midnightmagic>	Arbitration and Mediation, conflict resolution, are all handled by people who two warring parties trust.
Jan 22 14:46:02 <midnightmagic>	whom
Jan 22 14:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	this wasn't supposed to be neither arbitration nor mediation tho.
Jan 22 14:47:23 <midnightmagic>	It is less..  what legal authority could it have possibly exerted?
Jan 22 14:47:52 <jcpham>	blah blah blah
Jan 22 14:48:12 *	jcpham fixes a big plate of cheese
Jan 22 14:48:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3357 @ 0.00060886 = 2.0439 BTC [+]
Jan 22 14:48:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00060355 = 3.0178 BTC [-]
Jan 22 14:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gpg-contracts/
Jan 22 14:48:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3198 @ 0.00060354 = 1.9301 BTC [-]
Jan 22 14:49:51 <midnightmagic>	No, some of the assertions in there are wrong.
Jan 22 14:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Jan 22 14:50:20 <midnightmagic>	Aaaanyway, it's too bad you view it as a failure.
Jan 22 14:50:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6345 @ 0.00060335 = 3.8283 BTC [-]
Jan 22 14:50:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8655 @ 0.00061156 = 5.2931 BTC [+]
Jan 22 14:50:41 <midnightmagic>	But I'm curious to know why you negrated pigeons?
Jan 22 14:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	cuz i dun trust him.
Jan 22 14:51:21 <midnightmagic>	Why though?
Jan 22 14:51:57 <mircea_popescu>	well, to trust someone means to believe they act in a certain way.
Jan 22 14:52:24 <mircea_popescu>	i can currently make no prediction whatever. that means no trust.
Jan 22 14:53:00 <jcpham>	;;rated mircea_popescu
Jan 22 14:53:00 <gribble>	You rated user mircea_popescu on Thu Mar 29 06:56:09 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: His beard is sexy..
Jan 22 14:53:09 <midnightmagic>	Did you go into the "suit" believing people would decide to let you keep the overage?
Jan 22 14:53:12 <jcpham>	;;rate pigeons
Jan 22 14:53:12 <gribble>	(rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.
Jan 22 14:53:15 <jcpham>	;;rated pigeons
Jan 22 14:53:15 <gribble>	You rated user pigeons on Wed Nov 16 14:06:33 2011, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: super cards. rock & roll.
Jan 22 14:53:24 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic what's the overage ?
Jan 22 14:53:30 <jcpham>	;;rated midnightmagic
Jan 22 14:53:32 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user midnightmagic
Jan 22 14:53:42 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Perhaps I am misunderstanding. Someone accidentally sent you too much bitcoin, right?
Jan 22 14:53:51 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: You told them to sue you for it in court?
Jan 22 14:53:54 <jcpham>	and then sent 10 more btc
Jan 22 14:54:00 <jcpham>	and then sent he correct amount
Jan 22 14:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	a. no. i specifically went into the suit as an alternative to the "i simply keep it" rule in force.
Jan 22 14:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	so no. if anything, i went into the suit so as NOT to have to keep it.
Jan 22 14:54:38 <midnightmagic>	Isn't that how the judges ruled?
Jan 22 14:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Jan 22 14:54:48 <midnightmagic>	They ruled you keep it?
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Jan 22 14:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	the judges ruled that anyone can take any ammount of money from mpex at any time at their option.
Jan 22 14:55:05 <jcpham>	we ruled he pay the fee
Jan 22 14:55:20 <jcpham>	if a rota member tries it and i'm nominated i'm going to take their funds
Jan 22 14:55:31 <jcpham>	and suggest they be replaced
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Jan 22 14:55:42 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham how would you know ?
Jan 22 14:55:44 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is anon.
Jan 22 14:55:58 <midnightmagic>	Here's how I understand it. The judges get paid a fee. 3 x 3 BTC (for three judges.) Everything else ended up with its rightful owner, correct?
Jan 22 14:56:00 <jcpham>	maybe in this future case that doesn't exist
Jan 22 14:56:08 <jcpham>	but not in the case that just transpired
Jan 22 14:56:34 <jcpham>	also fuck you for still talking about this
Jan 22 14:56:38 <jcpham>	:)
Jan 22 14:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	im not even, midnightmagic is as usual late to the parties lol
Jan 22 14:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic there's 130 btc that was missent. this was returned.
Jan 22 14:57:10 <jcpham>	haha
Jan 22 14:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	there's 10 btc paid by the op and 10 btc paid by mpex. out of these 20, judges get 9, prevailing party gets 10.
Jan 22 14:57:30 <dub>	thats the way you designed it
Jan 22 14:57:34 <midnightmagic>	Nobody's really giving me a straight answer. Perhaps it only seems like I'm late because I have to wring the truth out of people.
Jan 22 14:57:52 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic what srsly ? what straight answer is missing ?
Jan 22 14:58:14 <dub>	midnightmagic: sounds like you had it right
Jan 22 14:58:24 <jcpham>	i provided good suggestion to avoid this edge-case
Jan 22 14:58:27 <midnightmagic>	 "the judges ruled that anyone can take any ammount of money from mpex at any time at their option." <-- this is the same, logically, as A-> ? ->C. I'm just trying to find the progression.
Jan 22 14:58:30 <jcpham>	an edgecase of honest people
Jan 22 14:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic but have you read the description of the problem ?
Jan 22 14:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	specifically http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rota-post-mortem/ ?
Jan 22 14:59:19 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I thought I had. And then to get confirmation I've been asking people, and nobody, yourself included, can tell me why you're so upset.
Jan 22 14:59:29 <mircea_popescu>	im not upset in the slightest.
Jan 22 14:59:31 <dub>	mircea_popescu: if you had stuck to your rule I'd side with you, but you changed your mind after making him use the rota
Jan 22 14:59:41 <mircea_popescu>	dub which rule ?
Jan 22 14:59:42 <dub>	or at least thats what it looks like
Jan 22 14:59:51 <dub>	the "I keep it" rule
Jan 22 14:59:54 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: The pigeons negrating wasn't the actions of a man who's upset?
Jan 22 15:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic nope.
Jan 22 15:00:20 <midnightmagic>	"pigeons killed my baby"? That isn't retaliatory?
Jan 22 15:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	well i guess it depends. dead babies are supposed to be funny.
Jan 22 15:00:55 <midnightmagic>	Usually funny dead babies are accompanied by a punchline.
Jan 22 15:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Jan 22 15:01:04 <jcpham>	or a blog post.
Jan 22 15:01:10 <midnightmagic>	Actually finding dead babies in a trash can? Not so much..
Jan 22 15:01:17 <mircea_popescu>	hey, what can i tell you.
Jan 22 15:01:31 <jcpham>	i bet eskimobob is orgasming
Jan 22 15:01:31 <mircea_popescu>	people humor and universe humor don't always mesh
Jan 22 15:01:55 <midnightmagic>	It *sounds* as though you discovered a hole in the logic of the case, in that there's no real way to determine judge and party collusion.
Jan 22 15:02:05 <dub>	jcpham: without doubt he's been slojacking fro the last 24 hours
Jan 22 15:02:15 <jcpham>	herr
Jan 22 15:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	the problem is the judges (unwittingly, i am sure) indemnified the active party
Jan 22 15:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	this can never work, in practice.
Jan 22 15:02:41 <pigeons>	that's ridiculous, there is no whole, if mircea_popescu is afraid of losing court fees he can just credit the original deposit
Jan 22 15:02:45 <pigeons>	*hole
Jan 22 15:02:50 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Okay, okay. So what were you *hoping* for out of the case? That the judges wouldn't take their fees and all the money gets split evenly so nobody's out?
Jan 22 15:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	more generally, the rota can never work, in practice, because normal, honest, well meaning people have no way to reliably avoid falling in such tarpits.
Jan 22 15:03:18 <dub>	midnightmagic: I get that he was hoping to win and then benevolently refund the other guy
Jan 22 15:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	im not hoping for anything. teh case is resolved, it has shown the system to not be workable, that's what it is.
Jan 22 15:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	dub nah.
Jan 22 15:03:50 <dub>	mircea_popescu: why did you enter into arbitration during the case then?
Jan 22 15:03:51 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: What result *would* have made you say, "the system works"
Jan 22 15:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	dub i did no such thing ?
Jan 22 15:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic the thing suggested in my argument, ie, 92.x% award. person gets his 130, has to pay fee.
Jan 22 15:04:25 <dub>	mircea_popescu: sure you did, you asked him to prove that the txn was his by signing somethign with the key
Jan 22 15:04:29 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: people aren't so much criticizing you as trying to understand your thinking
Jan 22 15:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	dub that's not in any way arbitration
Jan 22 15:04:45 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: The whole fee? Like the judges fee?
Jan 22 15:04:46 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i don't feel particularly criticised.
Jan 22 15:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic yes.
Jan 22 15:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	the whole fee.
Jan 22 15:04:54 <dub>	mircea_popescu: well to onlookers such as myself thats exactly what it is
Jan 22 15:04:57 <midnightmagic>	Ohhhh... I see.
Jan 22 15:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub i do not know why. i was being stewardly, i guess. trying to help the person along, because otherwise
Jan 22 15:05:21 <jcpham>	i provided excellent suggestions on how to avoid this and i think mircea_popescu has sufficiently CYA'd for the next case of mistaken funds
Jan 22 15:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	if i just said "fiogure it out" i doubt he;d have ever found his way rthrough in time
Jan 22 15:05:29 <jcpham>	no there is just drama
Jan 22 15:05:38 <midnightmagic>	That's it?!
Jan 22 15:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic yes.
Jan 22 15:06:04 <midnightmagic>	...
Jan 22 15:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	ikr.
Jan 22 15:06:15 <jcpham>	i'm going to go kill myself now
Jan 22 15:06:16 <mircea_popescu>	dead fuckin babies everywhere.
Jan 22 15:06:20 <dub>	mircea_popescu: one of the key aspects of legality is intent, you actions inferred the intent to refund him
Jan 22 15:06:39 <Bugpowder>	I just assumed this was all an MP scheme to get the Rota off the ground and produce credibility that MP was not pulling the strings.
Jan 22 15:06:41 <midnightmagic>	Okay, then let me answer your earlier criticism: I am not late to the party after all. :-) Thank you. I'm just trying to understand.
Jan 22 15:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	dub there's no discussion of intent of deeds and acts made during trial.
Jan 22 15:06:44 <dub>	mircea_popescu: if you actually re-read teh comments with a neutral eye, it actually looks like the rota worked perfectly
Jan 22 15:06:48 <pigeons>	him spelling all that out made me feel why didn't he just go ahead and refund in the first place
Jan 22 15:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder not exactly a scheme, and not to that, no. it was more of a, let them drive see what they do.
Jan 22 15:07:37 <pigeons>	yeah i htink mircea_popescu is pretending to be upset to make people more likely to see oh the rota isnt biased to mpex, let's use it
Jan 22 15:07:51 <dub>	heh
Jan 22 15:07:58 <midnightmagic>	The rota still exists?
Jan 22 15:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	i will be extremely surprised if anyone actually uses it.
Jan 22 15:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	but who knows.
Jan 22 15:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic as much as it ever did.
Jan 22 15:08:10 <pigeons>	no one would ever have used it had you won
Jan 22 15:08:18 <jcpham>	i can only imagine how bad it'll be when an actual mistake is made
Jan 22 15:08:18 <dub>	^
Jan 22 15:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham no, you can't.
Jan 22 15:08:50 <jcpham>	i wish your glass were half full on this
Jan 22 15:08:50 <midnightmagic>	alright, my curiosity is satisfied. Thanks mircea_popescu. I'm sorry I keep persisting beyond the point normal people would.
Jan 22 15:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic not really a crime.
Jan 22 15:09:22 <midnightmagic>	Well, it tends to cause problems..
Jan 22 15:09:38 <pigeons>	you're not the only one confused midnightmagic
Jan 22 15:09:49 <jcpham>	i'm terribly confused
Jan 22 15:10:07 <jcpham>	but in a decisive way.
Jan 22 15:10:13 <pigeons>	yeah me too
Jan 22 15:10:35 <jcpham>	i rarely second guess myself
Jan 22 15:11:00 <midnightmagic>	It's too bad you're deciding to simply keep misspent bitcoins now, though.
Jan 22 15:11:04 <pigeons>	you second guess having the prevailing plantiff's fees returned?
Jan 22 15:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic cleanner.
Jan 22 15:11:25 <jcpham>	i second guess a normal decison that makes sense
Jan 22 15:11:33 <jcpham>	we should came up with some crazy ruling
Jan 22 15:11:36 <jcpham>	and kept all the coins
Jan 22 15:11:38 <pigeons>	yeah i agree
Jan 22 15:11:46 <pigeons>	and made it cost MP more
Jan 22 15:11:52 <jcpham>	i'd feel a lot better about that today
Jan 22 15:11:52 <midnightmagic>	Okay, lunchtime. :) brb soon as the sante fe rice my wife made is nuked!
Jan 22 15:11:54 *	midnightmagic is excited.
Jan 22 15:12:22 <dub>	I too am excited about lunch
Jan 22 15:12:26 <mircea_popescu>	the old "is it better to have tried and failed or to not have tried at all" discussion huh.
Jan 22 15:12:32 <dub>	raw fish slain by my own hand
Jan 22 15:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	im excited about watching a film, so we reconvene once everyone's deexcited lol
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Jan 22 15:21:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0088 = 0.88 BTC [-]
Jan 22 15:21:46 <dub>	ping pe41
Jan 22 15:21:55 <dub>	cockhat
Jan 22 15:22:13 *	Diablo-D3 is now known as Diapolo-D3
Jan 22 15:22:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 59 @ 0.0089 = 0.5251 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:22:20 *	Diapolo-D3 is now known as Diablo-D3
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Jan 22 15:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21839 @ 0.00061156 = 13.3559 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:30:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11606 @ 0.00061894 = 7.1834 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:30:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00061925 = 10.3415 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:30:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20567 @ 0.00061941 = 12.7394 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:30:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062078 = 3.7247 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:30:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16488 @ 0.00062092 = 10.2377 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550 @ 0.00517014 = 13.1839 BTC [-]
Jan 22 15:30:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.0051843 = 2.3329 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.548 = 10.96 BTC [-]
Jan 22 15:32:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.548 = 6.028 BTC [-]
Jan 22 15:34:39 <midnightmagic>	dub: But! Are you excited about... MY lunch?
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Jan 22 15:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.549999 = 3.85 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:40:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.0051843 = 2.3329 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:40:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00521997 = 8.091 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:40:49 *	dub googles
Jan 22 15:41:28 <dub>	typically there is pr0n in google images for santa fe rice
Jan 22 15:42:34 <dub>	looks pretty good though, the food that is
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Jan 22 15:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.548 = 10.96 BTC [-]
Jan 22 15:43:03 <dub>	kinda like a beaner pilaf
Jan 22 15:45:36 <jurov>	so, beware the hole in mpex foyer everyone :D
Jan 22 15:46:07 <dub>	wat?
Jan 22 15:46:09 <Bugpowder>	"Altogether, Avalon’s first batch is expected to contribute a total of 18 TH/s to the Bitcoin network – about eighty percent of the network’s entire hash power at the time of Avalon’s shipping."
Jan 22 15:46:15 <Bugpowder>	80%?
Jan 22 15:46:23 <jurov>	dub, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rota-post-mortem/#comment-91531
Jan 22 15:46:54 <Diablo-D3>	80?
Jan 22 15:46:56 <Diablo-D3>	the fuck?
Jan 22 15:46:57 <Bugpowder>	math is wrong?
Jan 22 15:47:02 <Diablo-D3>	we're at what, 25th atm?
Jan 22 15:47:14 *	Diablo-D3 checks sipagraph
Jan 22 15:47:38 <Diablo-D3>	goddamnit sipa
Jan 22 15:47:52 <Diablo-D3>	http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed.png
Jan 22 15:48:13 <Diablo-D3>	I have no clue where we are
Jan 22 15:48:25 <Diablo-D3>	but its at least 18
Jan 22 15:48:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13212 @ 0.00062092 = 8.2036 BTC [+]
Jan 22 15:49:35 <Bugpowder>	22
Jan 22 15:52:04 <Bugpowder>	some real cat and mouse shit going on with the bid/asks right now
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Jan 22 15:57:19 <dub>	jurov: thats fine imo, we're in the wild west, there is no low requiring fenced holes
Jan 22 15:57:26 <dub>	s/low/law
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Jan 22 15:58:57 <dub>	jurov: if a shop wants to make it very dangerous to go in and buy something, while its at odds with having customers, I don't have a problem with it
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Jan 22 16:02:10 <dub>	jurov: at any rate its good for coinbr!
Jan 22 16:02:44 <jurov>	i don't want to argue about it. just that i found the whole philosophy of placing pitfalls without a good reason just cause this is free country ... er.. lacking
Jan 22 16:03:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5688 @ 0.00062267 = 3.5417 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:03:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15212 @ 0.00060309 = 9.1742 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:04:19 <dub>	well theres certainly a questionable service paradigm there, if the aim is bringing in more business
Jan 22 16:04:39 <dub>	but thats not unexpected here
Jan 22 16:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11815 @ 0.00062269 = 7.3571 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:06:28 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 22 16:06:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.51000000 / 0.53911573 / 0.56000000 (114 shares, 61.45919280 BTC), 7D: 0.48000000 / 0.54273436 / 0.62000000 (547 shares, 296.87569270 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.46498635 / 0.62000000 (4053 shares, 1884.58969268 BTC)
Jan 22 16:07:10 <jurov>	and it isn't necessarily good for coinbr..next time some lunatic decides to call statjson 10x in second and mircea decides to add a fee to it
Jan 22 16:07:44 <jurov>	or otherwise drop a hammer
Jan 22 16:08:03 <dub>	yes but thats not a new problem
Jan 22 16:08:44 <jurov>	ofc. but such kind of "solutions" unnerves me.
Jan 22 16:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6127 @ 0.00062913 = 3.8547 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:09:00 <dub>	understandably
Jan 22 16:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8395 @ 0.00062971 = 5.2864 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:10:07 <dub>	I'm not even sure how to send an exact amount of bitcoins myself
Jan 22 16:10:19 <dub>	doesn't seem to be any way to reliably predict the fee
Jan 22 16:10:47 <jurov>	do you use a client that subtracts the fee from sent amount? O_o
Jan 22 16:11:08 <jurov>	i hope not
Jan 22 16:11:10 <dub>	I use bitcoind which I thing does that yes
Jan 22 16:11:14 <dub>	think*
Jan 22 16:11:18 <jurov>	no it doesn't
Jan 22 16:11:45 <jurov>	you do sendtoaddress <address> 0.12345678
Jan 22 16:11:58 <jurov>	and it does send it exactly
Jan 22 16:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.54999979 = 7.15 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:12:03 <jurov>	plus fees
Jan 22 16:12:29 <dub>	righto, I am mistaken
Jan 22 16:12:45 <dub>	(sure I've hit this problem before but I don't have access to txn history at the moment
Jan 22 16:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5499998 = 2.2 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.555 = 1.665 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:14:15 <jurov>	and if you have less than 0.12345678 + fee in the wallet it disallows you to send anything
Jan 22 16:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5285 @ 0.0006228 = 3.2915 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:17:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19307 @ 0.0006174 = 11.9201 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:17:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8575 @ 0.0006105 = 5.235 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:18:01 <dub>	unsure where I got this misconception from, but I've been overpaying people to compensate for a while :)
Jan 22 16:18:32 <jurov>	lol
Jan 22 16:18:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00521996 = 26.0998 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 16:19:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.6985 = 3.4925 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 16:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.53 = 6.89 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:23:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.53 = 3.71 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:24:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.34 = 1.36 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 16:26:49 <Namworld>	Anyone would be willing to lend some BTCTC assets? I'm looking into short selling
Jan 22 16:29:09 <kakobrekla>	are you trying to pull mp on someone else
Jan 22 16:29:26 <kakobrekla>	pull a mp i should say.
Jan 22 16:30:38 <Namworld>	define a mp?
Jan 22 16:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9602 @ 0.00062015 = 5.9547 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:37:44 <Namworld>	?
Jan 22 16:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	maek a lot of monyz ?
Jan 22 16:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	by the way, if anyone speaks any chinese : here's a draft of mpex faq http://mpex.co/faq_cn.html
Jan 22 16:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	i would much appreciate any input.
Jan 22 16:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	since i can't read that language.
Jan 22 16:39:42 <Namworld>	Well I'd probably offer better terms than you on contracts.
Jan 22 16:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	actually i imagine that'll become quite the lucrative market in the future.
Jan 22 16:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	prolly end up more or less standardized by practice etc.
Jan 22 16:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.53000001 = 9.01 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:45:28 <Bugpowder>	Is anyone else watching the MONSTER betting that has been going on all day on SDice?
Jan 22 16:46:29 <Namworld>	No
Jan 22 16:47:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1855 @ 0.00062971 = 1.1681 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10524 @ 0.00062988 = 6.6289 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 16:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00521995 = 52.1995 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:49:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00521996 = 26.0998 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:49:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3550 @ 0.00523288 = 18.5767 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:49:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.005235 = 52.35 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:50:05 <Namworld>	Oh, you wanted to sell your stocks, I get it now ; P
Jan 22 16:50:59 <Bugpowder>	no that was me buying
Jan 22 16:51:17 <Bugpowder>	http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Jan 22 16:51:24 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 22 16:51:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.30001, Best ask: 17.38900, Bid-ask spread: 0.08899, Last trade: 17.48000, 24 hour volume: 61713.28463152, 24 hour low: 16.51001, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.10409
Jan 22 16:52:37 <Namworld>	Eh, not sure.
Jan 22 16:52:50 <Namworld>	Seems like the earnings are still low for the month
Jan 22 16:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11648 @ 0.00062015 = 7.2235 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:52:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18352 @ 0.0006195 = 11.3691 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7500 @ 0.00528204 = 39.6153 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3421 @ 0.00529131 = 18.1016 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2748 @ 0.0006195 = 1.7024 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder how much ?
Jan 22 16:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6479 @ 0.00529131 = 34.2824 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4300 @ 0.00529249 = 22.7577 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:59:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 141 @ 0.00534347 = 0.7534 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:59:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2080 @ 0.00534611 = 11.1199 BTC [+]
Jan 22 16:59:24 <Namworld>	Enough that there will be a ~500 BTC dividend this month, so far
Jan 22 16:59:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=100&status=ALL much better link. 1/4 of the page is today.
Jan 22 16:59:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8372 @ 0.00061258 = 5.1285 BTC [-]
Jan 22 16:59:44 <Namworld>	0.00005 per share
Jan 22 17:00:03 <Namworld>	1% for the month
Jan 22 17:00:07 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 22 17:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	buncha 1200 wins too
Jan 22 17:00:14 <Namworld>	Could still go up or down
Jan 22 17:00:17 <Bugpowder>	Since Dooglases update
Jan 22 17:00:26 <Bugpowder>	which was already sdice catching up
Jan 22 17:00:41 <Bugpowder>	I calculate 10,000BTC profit
Jan 22 17:00:45 <Bugpowder>	additional
Jan 22 17:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	for jan ?!
Jan 22 17:00:55 <Bugpowder>	for the last 5 hours
Jan 22 17:01:04 <Bugpowder>	err 3 hours
Jan 22 17:01:19 <Bugpowder>	31000 in
Jan 22 17:01:26 <Bugpowder>	21000 out s
Jan 22 17:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Jan 22 17:01:50 <Bugpowder>	since block 217598
Jan 22 17:02:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 120 @ 0.00534611 = 0.6415 BTC [+]
Jan 22 17:02:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 57 @ 0.00535581 = 0.3053 BTC [+]
Jan 22 17:02:15 <Bugpowder>	which puts us at 14,000 for the month
Jan 22 17:02:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 634 @ 0.00538043 = 3.4112 BTC [+]
Jan 22 17:02:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4940 @ 0.00579999 = 28.652 BTC [+]
Jan 22 17:02:32 <Namworld>	So 1400? 2.8%
Jan 22 17:02:38 <Bugpowder>	14000
Jan 22 17:02:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 14 / 0.00579999
Jan 22 17:02:45 <gribble>	2413.79726517
Jan 22 17:02:45 <Namworld>	I'm talking for MPEx
Jan 22 17:02:52 <Namworld>	which is 10% of shares
Jan 22 17:03:00 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 22 17:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	2.4. still pretty huge for a month
Jan 22 17:03:08 <Namworld>	We're closer to 6... more like 2.33%
Jan 22 17:03:08 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 22 17:03:11 <Bugpowder>	dudeds
Jan 22 17:03:22 <Bugpowder>	the betting is ongoing
Jan 22 17:03:39 <Bugpowder>	Could be up another 10k in a few hours
Jan 22 17:03:43 <Bugpowder>	or back down.
Jan 22 17:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	if it keeps up sure
Jan 22 17:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	i suspekt sdice is spearheading azn bitcoin adoption
Jan 22 17:04:17 <Namworld>	azn?
Jan 22 17:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	asian
Jan 22 17:04:31 <Namworld>	ah
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Jan 22 17:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.53 = 5.3 BTC [-]
Jan 22 17:05:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.53 = 1.59 BTC [-]
Jan 22 17:05:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.52 = 3.64 BTC [-]
Jan 22 17:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly.
Jan 22 17:06:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3000 @ 0.0054 = 16.2 BTC [+]
Jan 22 17:08:27 <Namworld>	Well darn... I'd need someone to loan me some funds then...
Jan 22 17:08:33 <midnightmagic>	dub: What the heck porn are you talking about? I went to go look, but..  only saw food. And my safesearch is off..?
Jan 22 17:09:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.0006105 = 10.9585 BTC [-]
Jan 22 17:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7330 @ 0.00061258 = 4.4902 BTC [+]
Jan 22 17:10:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5120 @ 0.00061636 = 3.1558 BTC [+]
Jan 22 17:10:27 <dub>	midnightmagic: safesearch on, logged out, on a machine that has never searched for porn
Jan 22 17:11:22 <midnightmagic>	dub: Virus!
Jan 22 17:11:31 <midnightmagic>	Or at least link.
Jan 22 17:11:51 <dub>	midnightmagic: you know google 'bubbles' results based on a bunch of shit right?
Jan 22 17:12:10 <dub>	I guess either my coworkers or fellow countrymen in general are dirty bastards
Jan 22 17:12:49 <midnightmagic>	dub: Is any of it any good?
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Jan 22 17:14:56 <jcpham>	IE17 dominates the competition: http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/performance/bubbles/
Jan 22 17:16:27 <dub>	hrm safesearch is off, wtf
Jan 22 17:16:43 <dub>	google doesnt support hyperlinks so..
Jan 22 17:19:16 <dub>	its a set of tits in some kind of artsy soft focus carry on
Jan 22 17:19:49 <dub>	a few hits for some kind of rodent as well
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Jan 22 17:33:28 <dub>	<TheButterZone> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rota-post-mortem/ - i wonder how this correlates to the 519.704 BTC I got randomly
Jan 22 17:33:36 <dub>	I'd say 1 to 1
Jan 22 17:34:07 <Namworld>	?
Jan 22 17:35:01 <dub>	dude is retarded
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Jan 22 17:36:40 <Namworld>	Is he stubbornly adhering to his rules & contracts? (regardless of legality)
Jan 22 17:37:10 <dub>	thebutterzone is retarded
Jan 22 17:37:31 <Namworld>	ah
Jan 22 17:37:54 <Namworld>	I should pay more attention.
Jan 22 17:38:02 <dub>	how the fuck can you draw any relationship between that post and randomly receiving btc yourself
Jan 22 17:38:46 <Namworld>	No idea. I haven't read that.
Jan 22 17:38:48 <jcpham>	what is he talking about
Jan 22 17:38:55 <Namworld>	I always have 0 credits
Jan 22 17:39:09 <jcpham>	i'm guessing he received 519.704 BTC from MPEX
Jan 22 17:39:21 <jcpham>	or he is trolling
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Jan 22 17:40:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.34 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Jan 22 17:40:45 <mod6>	no no, i think he did actually just randomly receive the btc from somewhere.  at least iirc from reading otc
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Jan 22 17:41:01 <mod6>	but, whatever.
Jan 22 17:41:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 5 @ 0.5 = 2.5 BTC
Jan 22 17:42:12 <Bugpowder>	Satoshi Dice up another 1000 in the last 10 minutes
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Jan 22 17:42:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.3799 = 1.1397 BTC [-]
Jan 22 17:42:26 <Bugpowder>	I think we are now at ~15,000 profit for the month
Jan 22 17:42:48 <Namworld>	If I mashup the recent talking, you're all suggesting I should hack satoshidice.com and replace betting addresses with some of my own and somehow "randomly receive BTC from somewhere"?
Jan 22 17:45:21 <mod6>	heheh
Jan 22 17:45:46 <dub>	only if you dig a big hole first
Jan 22 17:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8211 @ 0.0006105 = 5.0128 BTC [-]
Jan 22 17:46:59 <mod6>	hah
Jan 22 17:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00060764 = 5.7118 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 17:48:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC
Jan 22 17:48:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.34 = 3.4 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 17:51:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00060731 = 9.8992 BTC [-]
Jan 22 17:51:56 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 22 17:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00507549 / 0.00525598 / 0.00579999 (109410 shares, 575.06 BTC), 7D: 0.00454703 / 0.00489723 / 0.00598999 (1391696 shares, 6,815.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00332178 / 0.0041661 / 0.00598999 (9555800 shares, 39,810.47 BTC)
Jan 22 17:52:21 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 1500/52559
Jan 22 17:52:21 <gribble>	0.0285393557716
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Jan 22 17:56:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.38 = 1.9 BTC [+]
Jan 22 17:57:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 614 @ 0.00703848 = 4.3216 BTC [-]
Jan 22 17:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.01758122 = 17.5812 BTC [-]
Jan 22 17:58:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.35779533 = 357.7953 BTC [+]
Jan 22 17:58:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.29914036 = 299.1404 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:00:00 <markedathome>	jcpham: thebutterzone got some btc sent to him around christmas/new years. at the same time other people in #bitcoin-otc were allegedly being given various sums from someone ranging up to about 200-300btc
Jan 22 18:00:15 <jcpham>	i see
Jan 22 18:00:19 <jcpham>	i was unaware of this
Jan 22 18:01:07 <markedathome>	he posted in bitcointalk but no one owned up to sending it, either on purpose or in error. How he then got to the rota, I haven't a clue.
Jan 22 18:01:33 <jcpham>	i think it was a joke
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Jan 22 18:05:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.34 = 2.04 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:07:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.38 = 3.8 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:08:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:08:55 <mod6>	ahh markedathome
Jan 22 18:09:48 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: seems like http://mpex.co/faq_cn.html's encoding is broken, doesn't work with in header stated utf-8, nor with any of the chinese
Jan 22 18:10:06 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: it is utf-8 though if the copy&paste error is fixed
Jan 22 18:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB what error is that ?
Jan 22 18:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	o i think i see
Jan 22 18:11:10 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu:
Jan 22 18:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	now ?
Jan 22 18:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	html tag wrongly delcared it as english
Jan 22 18:12:44 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Jan 22 18:12:45 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00059541 / 0.00061157 / 0.00062988 (2609382 shares, 1,595.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00059541 / 0.00064102 / 0.00068 (11134418 shares, 7,137.43 BTC), 30D: 0.00059541 / 0.00064462 / 0.00068 (39225798 shares, 25,285.89 BTC)
Jan 22 18:12:46 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 22 18:12:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.36002, Best ask: 17.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03998, Last trade: 17.36002, 24 hour volume: 59877.57089900, 24 hour low: 16.65000, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.13945
Jan 22 18:12:58 <thestringpuller>	so why the sudden price jump?
Jan 22 18:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	a dollar a day keeps recession at bay.
Jan 22 18:13:22 <thestringpuller>	i feel like this is an aftershock of the reward half
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Jan 22 18:14:47 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: nope, that's not the problem, there are some escape characters in the html tags
Jan 22 18:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB looking.
Jan 22 18:14:57 <thestringpuller>	wow bitcoin is in headlines no wonder: First up is the venerable SatoshiDice, which is the leading bitcoin gambling site in terms of amount wagered. Responsible for more than 50% of daily network volume on the Bitcoin blockchain, SatoshiDice reported first year earnings from wagering at an impressive .33,310.
Jan 22 18:15:07 <FabianB>	i found/replaced them with an editor, after that works fine here
Jan 22 18:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	which then ?
Jan 22 18:15:26 <Bugpowder>	And January earnings of 15,000 to date
Jan 22 18:15:27 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 22 18:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you saw forbes piece btw ?
Jan 22 18:15:46 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 22 18:15:49 <Bugpowder>	awesome
Jan 22 18:15:53 <Bugpowder>	congrats
Jan 22 18:16:19 <thestringpuller>	"To invest in the operator and bet on the house, SatoshiDice shares are traded on the MPEx bitcoin stock exchange under ticker symbol S.DICE (see August 19th, 2012 Prospectus). At the current exchange rate of $17.00 per BTC, SatoshiDice is a company valued at $8.9 million."
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Jan 22 18:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Jan 22 18:16:42 <thestringpuller>	mPex is no longer mainstreeeam.
Jan 22 18:18:14 <thestringpuller>	mPex is no longer underground it is now mainstream
Jan 22 18:18:18 <thestringpuller>	*
Jan 22 18:18:23 <thestringpuller>	how does that make you feel mircea_popescu ?
Jan 22 18:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB ok, was bad file encoding. check now ?
Jan 22 18:18:53 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller ummm... i dunno.
Jan 22 18:18:58 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: jup, looks much better and readable now :)
Jan 22 18:19:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	:) ty! can you actually read chinese ?
Jan 22 18:20:11 <thestringpuller>	Smoovious: ;;seen smickles
Jan 22 18:20:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.34 = 1.7 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:20:14 <thestringpuller>	blah
Jan 22 18:20:20 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 22 18:20:20 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 17 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <smickles> what was the final precursor last time? a bunch of puts bought, calls sold?
Jan 22 18:20:25 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: i know some chinese, but not enought to verify if it's a good translation
Jan 22 18:21:40 <Namworld>	15000 BTC earnings? Looking good.
Jan 22 18:22:42 <Bugpowder>	they have been killing it in the last few hours
Jan 22 18:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	crazy stuff
Jan 22 18:22:56 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: but your new sentence is missing (the red one from yesterday)
Jan 22 18:23:00 <Namworld>	still betting?
Jan 22 18:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB o shit. ya, translator was at work on old version obviously ><
Jan 22 18:23:30 <Namworld>	I'll wait for the next report from dooglus
Jan 22 18:23:39 <Bugpowder>	not for the last 23 minutes
Jan 22 18:23:50 <Bugpowder>	the addressess still have over 10,000 left in them though
Jan 22 18:24:15 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: shouldn't be a problem for him to add this one sentence
Jan 22 18:24:16 <kakobrekla>	pizza delivery boy
Jan 22 18:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol
Jan 22 18:24:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39 @ 0.00060764 = 0.0237 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB indeed.
Jan 22 18:24:52 <Bugpowder>	at least 16,000 left actually
Jan 22 18:24:59 <mircea_popescu>	so, anyone here fluent in russian ? german ? french ?
Jan 22 18:25:08 <mircea_popescu>	spanish ?
Jan 22 18:25:11 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: looks like the translater offers chinese support for mpex in the faq
Jan 22 18:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB yeh
Jan 22 18:25:31 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: i'm german
Jan 22 18:25:41 <mircea_popescu>	a ? wanna do a german faq ?
Jan 22 18:26:41 <Bugpowder>	elance.com
Jan 22 18:26:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00541028 = 1.6231 BTC [-]
Jan 22 18:26:51 <Bugpowder>	cheep
Jan 22 18:27:28 <mircea_popescu>	i don't have an account. and besides, i'd prefer ppl from teh community
Jan 22 18:27:31 <kakobrekla>	the bad part about is keeping all the langs updated later on
Jan 22 18:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 23 @ 0.00541028 = 0.1244 BTC [-]
Jan 22 18:27:48 <dub>	mircea_popescu: amir knows esperanto
Jan 22 18:27:49 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla im sort of hoping the faq is done.
Jan 22 18:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	dub willywonka-tellmemore.jpg
Jan 22 18:28:37 <FabianB>	i can try to find the time on weekend
Jan 22 18:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB don't feel pressured, it's purely an "if anyone wants to" thing
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Jan 22 18:29:51 <FabianB>	i wouldn't want to offer support, like the chinese guy ;)
Jan 22 18:30:42 <FabianB>	(i don't even have an account, only using coinbr)
Jan 22 18:30:47 <mircea_popescu>	german isn't quite the unbridgeable cultural and linguistic gap like chinese is, so i don't imagine it'd make so much sense
Jan 22 18:30:58 <Bugpowder>	dub lol
Jan 22 18:31:00 <error4733>	Bugpowder : thanks for the SD sheet ! What a nice surprise today ! +8K
Jan 22 18:31:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 510 @ 0.41713552 = 212.7391 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00061105 = 10.0212 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:31:26 <mircea_popescu>	heh whoever had those calls is a rich boy.
Jan 22 18:31:26 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 22 18:31:40 <Bugpowder>	I got a few
Jan 22 18:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, it's funny, i think they translated "dear lord" as "dear king"
Jan 22 18:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	not that my chinese is worth the mention.
Jan 22 18:31:57 <Bugpowder>	hehehe
Jan 22 18:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	so it's
Jan 22 18:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	"dear king, what is this ?" "it is dog"
Jan 22 18:32:20 <dub>	ROR
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Jan 22 18:32:43 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: lol, did you run it through google translate backwards?
Jan 22 18:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	i'll end up with manga fanshit, whereby a dog asks a princess what this is a kingdog ?!
Jan 22 18:33:10 <Bugpowder>	seriously though...  How does the dude that just lost $200,000 on Satoshi Dice today feel right now.
Jan 22 18:33:24 <error4733>	sick
Jan 22 18:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	大王 isnt that king ?
Jan 22 18:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18380 @ 0.00061586 = 11.3195 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:33:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2852 @ 0.00061636 = 1.7579 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:33:51 <mod6>	Bugpowder: but maybe he made 225,000 yesterday!
Jan 22 18:34:05 <dub>	Bugpowder: probably like a dude that hat $200k to lose, indiferent
Jan 22 18:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 i think we'd know about it
Jan 22 18:34:25 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: right
Jan 22 18:34:25 <mod6>	fair enough
Jan 22 18:34:35 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: did smickles confirm the receipt of those shares?
Jan 22 18:34:42 <Bugpowder>	I didn't ask him
Jan 22 18:34:47 <error4733>	like my grand father say : day loss, eve gain
Jan 22 18:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	he didn't asdk him, he told him.
Jan 22 18:34:50 <Bugpowder>	mod6 he didn't
Jan 22 18:35:21 <Bugpowder>	dub, yeah prob gonna take it out on a hired lady.
Jan 22 18:35:25 <Bugpowder>	or something
Jan 22 18:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	maybe on a hired gentleboi
Jan 22 18:36:07 <thestringpuller>	it is dog?
Jan 22 18:36:10 <thestringpuller>	who is dog?
Jan 22 18:36:17 <mod6>	lol
Jan 22 18:36:20 <mircea_popescu>	this is.
Jan 22 18:36:26 <mircea_popescu>	yes ?
Jan 22 18:36:31 <thestringpuller>	http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/447/hello-yes-this-is-dog.png
Jan 22 18:36:36 <thestringpuller>	? ^ that?
Jan 22 18:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	hello yes that is dog.
Jan 22 18:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.google.com/search?q=day+loss,+eve+gain&complete=0
Jan 22 18:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	my 1st is "The 60 Day Plan: How to Get Sexy by New Year's Eve ".
Jan 22 18:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	tru story.
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Jan 22 18:37:54 <error4733>	google algo
Jan 22 18:38:11 <Bugpowder>	"Standings mechanics - EVElopedia - EVElopedia - EVE Online"
Jan 22 18:38:13 <thestringpuller>	my first is eve
Jan 22 18:38:14 <error4733>	with your previous
Jan 22 18:38:19 <thestringpuller>	Standings mechanics - EVElopedia - EVElopedia - EVE Online
Jan 22 18:38:25 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 22 18:38:25 <Bugpowder>	I am already sexy
Jan 22 18:38:26 <mod6>	anyway, yeah losses suck, but who's to say that's not his dip in his martingale chart
Jan 22 18:38:30 <Bugpowder>	don't need to search for it.
Jan 22 18:38:35 <error4733>	sorry for the bad translation, sound's better in french :(
Jan 22 18:38:44 <Bugpowder>	mod6  track the betting addresses.
Jan 22 18:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 say it in french ?
Jan 22 18:39:23 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/1EP4rM8hLZCRSWPNZDWJp9zdvmoWYkkgbQ
Jan 22 18:39:27 <error4733>	jour de perte, veille de gain
Jan 22 18:39:31 <mircea_popescu>	a
Jan 22 18:39:31 <mod6>	ahh. well, im not saying you're incorrect.
Jan 22 18:39:45 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Di6ux3CQBNXCZLD76BsnYWDo6XnFGzQah
Jan 22 18:39:47 <error4733>	if you lose todat that mean you will win tmrw...
Jan 22 18:39:52 <Bugpowder>	n
Jan 22 18:39:53 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 22 18:39:58 <Bugpowder>	it means you lost it
Jan 22 18:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, lose today, win in the morn.
Jan 22 18:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder hater!
Jan 22 18:40:34 <Bugpowder>	hey you might win tomorroe
Jan 22 18:40:38 <Bugpowder>	or lose another 10k
Jan 22 18:40:56 <error4733>	please do
Jan 22 18:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im off. take care all
Jan 22 18:41:20 <mod6>	l8r
Jan 22 18:41:23 <error4733>	for every 10K i win 2btc :)
Jan 22 18:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00061241 = 10.1354 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 18:41:49 <mod6>	i've actually never won a single bet on SD
Jan 22 18:41:59 <mod6>	i've probably played it 25 times
Jan 22 18:42:01 <mod6>	lol
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Jan 22 18:42:04 <mod6>	so *shrug*
Jan 22 18:42:19 <error4733>	i bought some share but i NEVER bet a single time
Jan 22 18:42:47 <kakobrekla>	i played
Jan 22 18:42:51 <kakobrekla>	with bitbets hotwallet
Jan 22 18:42:54 <thestringpuller>	this is a time for buying options
Jan 22 18:42:56 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Jan 22 18:42:58 <mod6>	haha kakobrekla
Jan 22 18:43:16 <thestringpuller>	are people taking out their money due to lack of faith in the bot?
Jan 22 18:43:25 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller, the time for buying options was 10 hours ago, when the vwap hadn't caught up with the current price.
Jan 22 18:43:42 <Bugpowder>	now.... not so much
Jan 22 18:43:45 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 22 18:43:49 <Bugpowder>	go for it
Jan 22 18:43:51 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: long term
Jan 22 18:44:18 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: buying options at the beginning of the month when they were lower due to price stability...
Jan 22 18:44:41 <Bugpowder>	the theta was pretty big
Jan 22 18:45:53 <thestringpuller>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/4/9/4/4946f8c110ba31f448c3bf98e915fae8.png <- that you mean?
Jan 22 18:46:34 <error4733>	if SD pay a good div for january the price will rise again?
Jan 22 18:47:09 <Bugpowder>	http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/theta.asp#axzz2IkdcwRul
Jan 22 18:47:40 <Bugpowder>	error4733  I think the price will rise as soon as dooglas posts the next update, in anticipation
Jan 22 18:47:48 <thestringpuller>	yea you can derive theta with black-scholes using the above derivitave no?
Jan 22 18:47:53 <Bugpowder>	not everyone is logged in here and aware of the profit spike
Jan 22 18:47:55 <thestringpuller>	partial derivative*
Jan 22 18:47:59 <mod6>	yeah
Jan 22 18:48:07 <mod6>	but, there are other ways
Jan 22 18:48:33 <Bugpowder>	yeah
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Jan 22 18:48:56 <thestringpuller>	theta is larger now than it was at the beginning of the month...
Jan 22 18:49:41 <error4733>	0.006 tmrw, 0.008 before 2 weeks
Jan 22 18:49:54 <error4733>	my bet
Jan 22 18:51:11 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 22 18:51:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.25002, Best ask: 17.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09998, Last trade: 17.35000, 24 hour volume: 60112.07298531, 24 hour low: 16.65000, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.14935
Jan 22 18:51:24 <Bugpowder>	gtg
Jan 22 18:51:29 <Bugpowder>	fuck
Jan 22 18:51:40 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 22 18:51:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.05000, Best ask: 17.34600, Bid-ask spread: 0.29600, Last trade: 17.34600, 24 hour volume: 61464.05988422, 24 hour low: 16.65000, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.14955
Jan 22 18:51:44 <dub>	yay
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Jan 22 18:52:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12 @ 0.00061242 = 0.0073 BTC [+]
Jan 22 18:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00061241 = 4.1644 BTC [-]
Jan 22 18:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21761 @ 0.00060898 = 13.252 BTC [-]
Jan 22 18:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9627 @ 0.00060763 = 5.8497 BTC [-]
Jan 22 18:54:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 88 @ 0.34 = 29.92 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 18:56:13 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 22 18:56:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.18758, Best ask: 17.25142, Bid-ask spread: 0.06384, Last trade: 17.26142, 24 hour volume: 61364.69500336, 24 hour low: 16.65000, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.15051
Jan 22 18:57:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10905 @ 0.00061636 = 6.7214 BTC [+]
Jan 22 19:02:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 392 @ 0.0055 = 2.156 BTC [+]
Jan 22 19:02:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1829 @ 0.0055 = 10.0595 BTC [+]
Jan 22 19:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00060763 = 3.3116 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 19:13:17 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 22 19:13:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.23918, Best ask: 17.41443, Bid-ask spread: 0.17525, Last trade: 17.23815, 24 hour volume: 59587.91713512, 24 hour low: 16.65000, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.16785
Jan 22 19:14:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0087 BTC [-]
Jan 22 19:14:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 99 @ 0.0087 = 0.8613 BTC [-]
Jan 22 19:16:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0088 = 0.88 BTC [+]
Jan 22 19:23:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00519995 = 1.04 BTC [-]
Jan 22 19:24:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 27 @ 0.0089 = 0.2403 BTC [+]
Jan 22 19:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.0006099 = 5.3061 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 19:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 10 @ 0.00014151 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
Jan 22 19:54:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00061386 = 8.3178 BTC [+]
Jan 22 20:04:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00061389 = 4.0824 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 20:07:48 <dub>	after all this time I'm still surprised at abject stupidity of 99% of bitcointalk users
Jan 22 20:12:21 <dub>	I've been involved in a few large online communities in the last 20 years. Some comprised entirely of retards, script kids, even the least intelligent form of life in the universe: gamers.
Jan 22 20:13:01 <dub>	their idiocy pales in comparison to the bitcoin community
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Jan 22 20:32:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
Jan 22 20:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00061386 = 5.5247 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 20:41:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00061187 = 7.9543 BTC [-]
Jan 22 20:44:34 <Bugpowder>	uggg
Jan 22 20:44:40 <Bugpowder>	big wall
Jan 22 20:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00061187 = 6.6082 BTC [-]
Jan 22 20:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00061389 = 5.1567 BTC [+]
Jan 22 20:48:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.6985 = 3.4925 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 20:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.53999999 = 5.4 BTC [+]
Jan 22 20:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.0006099 = 9.0875 BTC [-]
Jan 22 20:55:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5272 @ 0.00060763 = 3.2034 BTC [-]
Jan 22 20:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7578 @ 0.00060731 = 4.6022 BTC [-]
Jan 22 20:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.53999999 = 5.4 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 21:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.00519227 = 16.6153 BTC [-]
Jan 22 21:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1101 @ 0.00519995 = 5.7251 BTC [+]
Jan 22 21:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 667 @ 0.00522697 = 3.4864 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 21:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12008 @ 0.00060731 = 7.2926 BTC [-]
Jan 22 21:11:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4501 @ 0.00060481 = 2.7222 BTC [-]
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Jan 22 21:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00060506 = 4.901 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 21:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9827 @ 0.00060656 = 5.9607 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 21:41:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00061282 = 11.3065 BTC [+]
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Jan 22 21:47:10 <error4733>	!help
Jan 22 21:47:10 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 22 21:47:11 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 22 21:49:32 <Bugpowder>	where did the ask wall go?
Jan 22 21:49:59 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 22 21:50:02 <Bugpowder>	there it is
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Jan 22 22:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00061282 = 0.7047 BTC [+]
Jan 22 22:06:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00061389 = 1.0743 BTC [+]
Jan 22 22:10:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00061389 = 0.2149 BTC [+]
Jan 22 22:11:06 <Bugpowder>	Heavy betting continues tonight on S.DICE
Jan 22 22:12:46 <Bugpowder>	House now only up 8000 on the month
Jan 22 22:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13564 @ 0.00061636 = 8.3603 BTC [+]
Jan 22 22:20:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0097 = 0.0194 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:25:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00061435 = 7.9866 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7628 @ 0.00060656 = 4.6268 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:31:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1472 @ 0.00060481 = 0.8903 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:33:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.34 = 3.06 BTC [+]
Jan 22 22:35:54 <error4733>	? i got up to 10K for the last 1001 bet, i'm wrong ?
Jan 22 22:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5674 @ 0.00060481 = 3.4317 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.513 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:37:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6026 @ 0.00060468 = 3.6438 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:37:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.51000001 = 10.2 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:38:11 <Bugpowder>	I got 9800 since the doog update
Jan 22 22:38:22 <Bugpowder>	but I looked at the line wrong beofre
Jan 22 22:38:31 <Bugpowder>	we are starting from 33000
Jan 22 22:38:33 <Bugpowder>	:(
Jan 22 22:43:56 <error4733>	can y give me the time for the first bet not include in the doog graph ?
Jan 22 22:44:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 60 @ 0.117 = 7.02 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:47:55 <error4733>	1/22/2013 11:07:26 ?
Jan 22 22:49:09 <Bugpowder>	1/22/13 19:01
Jan 22 22:49:33 <error4733>	:) ty
Jan 22 22:49:56 <Bugpowder>	yeah, doog says what block they go up to, then just check the transaction ID
Jan 22 22:50:03 <Bugpowder>	on blockchain
Jan 22 22:50:23 <Bugpowder>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Yarbus_The_Visitor.jpg
Jan 22 22:53:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 901 @ 0.00060468 = 0.5448 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:53:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19559 @ 0.00060456 = 11.8246 BTC [-]
Jan 22 22:53:08 <error4733>	in december, same patern
Jan 22 22:53:24 <error4733>	small day and BAM 10K
Jan 22 22:56:56 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 22 22:57:45 <Bugpowder>	actually we were up 27k at one point, then lost 10k right before the end of the month
Jan 22 22:57:49 <Bugpowder>	than won it back
Jan 22 22:57:51 <Bugpowder>	then lost it
Jan 22 22:57:53 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 22 22:58:00 <Bugpowder>	the line inches higher
Jan 22 23:00:21 <Namworld>	yeah. Well let's keep watching.
Jan 22 23:00:45 <Namworld>	Theorically, we should still get around 1.9% of all bets on average
Jan 22 23:00:52 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 22 23:01:07 <Namworld>	Seeing deep pocketed gamblers is always nice.
Jan 22 23:01:12 <Bugpowder>	what I really care about is betting volume
Jan 22 23:01:29 <Bugpowder>	If that keeps up
Jan 22 23:01:32 <Bugpowder>	we will always win
Jan 22 23:02:07 <Namworld>	I'm sad I don't have more S.DICE
Jan 22 23:02:21 <Namworld>	Tho I bought tons of S.BVPS
Jan 22 23:02:34 <kakobrekla>	buy bbet so you wont be sad you wont have more of that too
Jan 22 23:03:30 <Namworld>	Nay, bbet too expensive right now
Jan 22 23:03:34 <error4733>	0.0050 is still cheap imo
Jan 22 23:03:43 <error4733>	(for Sdice
Jan 22 23:04:04 <Namworld>	yeah. Looks like S.DICE has good longterm value for BTC
Jan 22 23:04:36 <Namworld>	I'm not unhappy I bought all that S.BVPS tho
Jan 22 23:04:47 <Bugpowder>	from me
Jan 22 23:04:50 <Bugpowder>	thanks!
Jan 22 23:04:59 <Namworld>	yeah... 0.0035
Jan 22 23:05:01 <Bugpowder>	I bought S.DICE with the proceeds
Jan 22 23:05:02 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 22 23:05:09 <Bugpowder>	and a shitload of C160Ts
Jan 22 23:05:11 <Namworld>	Now it raised a lot eh
Jan 22 23:05:15 <Bugpowder>	which would be doing GREAT
Jan 22 23:05:28 <Bugpowder>	if this askwall would get eaten tonight
Jan 22 23:05:44 <Namworld>	I hope it crash soon...
Jan 22 23:05:51 <Namworld>	So I can buy more BTC
Jan 22 23:06:01 <Bugpowder>	define crash
Jan 22 23:06:07 <error4733>	13
Jan 22 23:06:09 <Bugpowder>	its never going under $10 again.
Jan 22 23:06:11 <kakobrekla>	2bucks
Jan 22 23:06:23 <Bugpowder>	2 buck
Jan 22 23:06:28 <Bugpowder>	I got in at 2.65
Jan 22 23:06:38 <Namworld>	I'm sure it can crash to under $10 again.
Jan 22 23:06:45 <Bugpowder>	oh?
Jan 22 23:06:50 <Bugpowder>	SURE?
Jan 22 23:06:56 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 22 23:07:02 <Bugpowder>	mtgox closing
Jan 22 23:07:05 <Bugpowder>	would do it
Jan 22 23:07:10 <Bugpowder>	short of that?
Jan 22 23:07:24 <Bugpowder>	maybe evoohess getting arrested
Jan 22 23:07:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3699 = 0.7398 BTC [-]
Jan 22 23:07:38 <Bugpowder>	oh my
Jan 22 23:07:39 <Bugpowder>	more bets
Jan 22 23:07:45 <Namworld>	Yup
Jan 22 23:07:48 <Namworld>	Looking good
Jan 22 23:07:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 16 @ 0.37 = 5.92 BTC [+]
Jan 22 23:08:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+]
Jan 22 23:09:05 <error4733>	when you'll see this on mtgox page : http://www.gamalive.com/images/fiches/5025-megaupload.jpg
Jan 22 23:09:11 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 22 23:09:14 <Bugpowder>	up another 1k
Jan 22 23:09:21 <Bugpowder>	10.6 now
Jan 22 23:09:57 <Bugpowder>	These dudes are betting 4000 BTC at a time.
Jan 22 23:10:05 <Bugpowder>	FFS
Jan 22 23:10:50 <error4733>	you got in at 2.65 but it's like some got in 0.005
Jan 22 23:11:01 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 22 23:11:05 <Bugpowder>	but not me
Jan 22 23:11:09 <Bugpowder>	also
Jan 22 23:11:14 <kakobrekla>	pizza delivery guy
Jan 22 23:11:14 <Bugpowder>	I wanted to buy 10k
Jan 22 23:11:22 <Bugpowder>	but my wife only let me buy $1k
Jan 22 23:11:28 <Bugpowder>	and then I bought $2k
Jan 22 23:11:35 <Bugpowder>	and she was kinda pissed
Jan 22 23:11:41 <error4733>	and now ?
Jan 22 23:11:43 <Bugpowder>	but she isn't pissed anymore
Jan 22 23:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8841 @ 0.00060456 = 5.3449 BTC [-]
Jan 22 23:12:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4277 @ 0.00060442 = 2.5851 BTC [-]
Jan 22 23:12:44 <error4733>	she was wrong :(
Jan 22 23:12:50 <Bugpowder>	its ok
Jan 22 23:12:51 <error4733>	u miss 150k$
Jan 22 23:13:03 <Bugpowder>	it would have been 80k by now
Jan 22 23:13:12 <Bugpowder>	oh well
Jan 22 23:13:19 <error4733>	:D
Jan 22 23:13:34 <Bugpowder>	NEXT TIME!
Jan 22 23:13:38 <error4733>	next time, when she want buy news shoes
Jan 22 23:13:43 <error4733>	say no haha
Jan 22 23:13:52 <kakobrekla>	and she will buy two.
Jan 22 23:13:53 <Bugpowder>	she can afford them herself :)
Jan 22 23:13:56 <kakobrekla>	two pairs.
Jan 22 23:14:14 <kakobrekla>	anyway there will be no next time
Jan 22 23:14:23 <Bugpowder>	there will be a next time
Jan 22 23:14:25 <error4733>	not in bTC
Jan 22 23:14:28 <Bugpowder>	for my investment ideas
Jan 22 23:14:37 <error4733>	but life is full opportinity
Jan 22 23:14:38 <Bugpowder>	Every few years I see a great idea
Jan 22 23:14:42 <Bugpowder>	Dendreon
Jan 22 23:14:49 <Bugpowder>	in 2007 for example
Jan 22 23:15:00 <Bugpowder>	And make 5x my money
Jan 22 23:15:03 <Bugpowder>	then lose it
Jan 22 23:15:12 <Bugpowder>	so far I have done the first half with bitcoins
Jan 22 23:15:45 <error4733>	you cant go wrong
Jan 22 23:16:13 <error4733>	we made one of the first reunion for BTC in Belgium today
Jan 22 23:16:31 <error4733>	10 peoples 2h
Jan 22 23:16:38 <error4733>	ready to go !!
Jan 22 23:17:57 <error4733>	soon the first shop / bar in my city with QR code for easy paiement
Jan 22 23:18:15 <Chilca>	Hi Guys
Jan 22 23:18:53 <error4733>	hi
Jan 22 23:18:53 <Chilca>	Do you guys trade in Mpex and BTC-TC ?
Jan 22 23:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1938 @ 0.00526527 = 10.2041 BTC [+]
Jan 22 23:20:33 <error4733>	bugpowder yes, me not realy
Jan 22 23:21:00 <Chilca>	I'm a Mpex heavy user, and want to know if anybody use BTC-TC
Jan 22 23:21:07 <Chilca>	Basically I'm own some S.DICE
Jan 22 23:23:02 <error4733>	"btc-tc" sorry i dont know
Jan 22 23:23:13 <error4733>	what is it ?
Jan 22 23:23:32 <error4733>	same here, some S.DICE
Jan 22 23:23:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00061123 = 1.5281 BTC [+]
Jan 22 23:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00061126 = 10.0858 BTC [+]
Jan 22 23:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00061584 = 1.478 BTC [+]
Jan 22 23:23:51 <Chilca>	https://btct.co/
Jan 22 23:25:26 <error4733>	"legally registered Belize international company"  seems legit
Jan 22 23:28:14 <Chilca>	OK, so you guys are no trading with btct.com right?
Jan 22 23:28:47 <error4733>	what about bitcointalk ? should have a topic on that no ?
Jan 22 23:29:07 <error4733>	no, and none of my friend
Jan 22 23:29:14 <pigeons>	right Chilca not much volume there
Jan 22 23:29:30 <error4733>	but when i read that : "BTC Trading Co. is a legally registered Belize international company. Compare to MPEx and most other exchanges which are not registered corporations."
Jan 22 23:29:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 336 @ 0.00527971 = 1.774 BTC [+]
Jan 22 23:30:24 <error4733>	3min on google and you can understand, registred in Belize or nothing is pretty much the same...
Jan 22 23:30:26 <pigeons>	i wouldn't give that fact too much weight, but if you do, that's cool
Jan 22 23:30:36 <pigeons>	oh yeah, agreed ok
Jan 22 23:31:33 <Chilca>	Only miners listed there.
Jan 22 23:31:43 <Chilca>	I don't care about the,
Jan 22 23:32:08 <Chilca>	I hope to be a miner when Butterfly ship me the mini rig.
Jan 22 23:32:37 <Namworld>	I trade with BTCT.co
Jan 22 23:32:45 <Namworld>	I run BTC-BOND
Jan 22 23:33:35 <Chilca>	Namworld: how is your experience?
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Jan 22 23:37:34 <Namworld>	BTCT.co has nice features
Jan 22 23:37:54 <Chilca>	but they don't have S.DICE
Jan 22 23:37:58 <Namworld>	MPEx has less features and a high fee, but functions more like a stock exchange, not a brokerage platform.
Jan 22 23:38:09 <Namworld>	The transactions are much more secure.
Jan 22 23:38:13 <Namworld>	All gpg signed.
Jan 22 23:38:27 <Namworld>	coinbr.com is a broker for MPEx
Jan 22 23:38:41 <Namworld>	You can trade S.DICE/S.MPOE on it
Jan 22 23:38:50 <Namworld>	but they charge a bit more fees
Jan 22 23:39:37 <error4733>	i'll pay the MPEx fees with the S.DICE div from jan
Jan 22 23:39:44 <Namworld>	Are you already on any platform at all?
Jan 22 23:40:42 <Chilca>	I'm on MPEX
Jan 22 23:41:06 <Chilca>	and really like it
Jan 22 23:41:35 <pigeons>	i'm glad we are more accesaible and this channel is getting more blind members
Jan 22 23:42:02 <Bugpowder>	12,100 BTC
Jan 22 23:42:07 <Bugpowder>	since doog
Jan 22 23:43:07 <Namworld>	I like the platform also
Jan 22 23:44:05 <Namworld>	The owner is a bit stubborn tho
Jan 22 23:44:41 <Chilca>	I see coinbr and they have a very nice UI.
Jan 22 23:44:57 <Chilca>	I'm sorry, coinbr doesn't have a nice UI.
Jan 22 23:45:14 <Chilca>	btct.co has a nice one
Jan 22 23:48:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 64 @ 0.00526527 = 0.337 BTC [-]
Jan 22 23:49:16 <Namworld>	yeah. Different kind of stuff on it however.
Jan 22 23:49:34 <Namworld>	S.BVPS will be moving from MPEx to BTCT.co
Jan 22 23:49:43 <Namworld>	We're getting delisted from MPEx
Jan 22 23:50:16 <Namworld>	Previous owner of BitVPS did something not respecting the contract on MPEx (Selling his whole stake in BitVPS)
Jan 22 23:50:38 <Chilca>	Namworld: you are the owner of BitVPS?
Jan 22 23:51:13 <Namworld>	One of the co-owner.
Jan 22 23:51:17 <Namworld>	rg retired
Jan 22 23:51:43 <Chilca>	are you guys using openstack?
Jan 22 23:55:19 <Namworld>	no
Jan 22 23:56:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 22 23:56:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.10000, Best ask: 17.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 17.10000, 24 hour volume: 64871.93999072, 24 hour low: 16.65000, 24 hour high: 17.59000, 24 hour vwap: 17.20845
Jan 22 23:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	what, still ?!
Jan 22 23:57:43 <Bugpowder>	they are trying to kill it
Jan 22 23:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	who's they and what's it
Jan 22 23:57:53 <Bugpowder>	getting close
Jan 22 23:58:21 <Bugpowder>	they = sellers; it = 17+
Jan 22 23:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Jan 22 23:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;bids 17
Jan 22 23:58:46 <gribble>	There are currently 3619.4082 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 61628.2957349 USD in total.
Jan 22 23:58:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;asks 18
Jan 22 23:58:53 <gribble>	There are currently 20232.644 bitcoins offered at or under 18.0 USD, worth 355737.861722 USD in total.
Jan 22 23:59:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;bids 15
Jan 22 23:59:16 <gribble>	There are currently 42445.625 bitcoins demanded at or over 15.0 USD, worth 684798.563041 USD in total.
Jan 22 23:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;asks 20
Jan 22 23:59:24 <gribble>	There are currently 39413.116 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 726890.468085 USD in total.
Jan 22 23:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	they look like fail tho lol
Jan 23 00:00:29 <Chilca>	;;bids 16
Jan 23 00:00:33 <gribble>	There are currently 27597.151 bitcoins demanded at or over 16.0 USD, worth 455044.787176 USD in total.
Jan 23 00:01:42 <Bugpowder>	oh my
Jan 23 00:03:05 <Bugpowder>	13000 profit
Jan 23 00:03:35 <Bugpowder>	still firing bets off at 4000 a shot
Jan 23 00:03:59 <Bugpowder>	every half hour
Jan 23 00:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	automatic like ?
Jan 23 00:04:22 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 23 00:04:29 <Bugpowder>	random delay
Jan 23 00:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	it boggles.
Jan 23 00:04:44 <Bugpowder>	with them going out over the course of 2-3 minutes
Jan 23 00:04:51 <Chilca>	!help
Jan 23 00:04:52 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 23 00:04:53 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 23 00:05:04 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca you go like
Jan 23 00:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 23 00:05:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00507549 / 0.00525447 / 0.00579999 (110702 shares, 581.68 BTC), 7D: 0.00454703 / 0.00492216 / 0.00598999 (1282457 shares, 6,312.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00332178 / 0.00416702 / 0.00598999 (9563029 shares, 39,849.40 BTC)
Jan 23 00:05:15 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: you know me!!
Jan 23 00:05:19 <Chilca>	thanks
Jan 23 00:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	i know everyone
Jan 23 00:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	+ all the girls.
Jan 23 00:10:48 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: I love the girls too
Jan 23 00:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135891785869.jpg speaking of which
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Jan 23 00:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138100.0 is that you Ukto ?
Jan 23 00:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00061195 = 2.509 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 00:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18414 @ 0.00061195 = 11.2684 BTC [-]
Jan 23 00:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9595 @ 0.00061584 = 5.909 BTC [+]
Jan 23 00:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 991 @ 0.00061636 = 0.6108 BTC [+]
Jan 23 00:37:26 <mircea_popescu>	In 2012, our users cashed out a total of 28,986฿.
Jan 23 00:37:33 <mircea_popescu>	so bitzino made something like 300btc in 2012 ?
Jan 23 00:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 636 @ 0.00513446 = 3.2655 BTC [-]
Jan 23 00:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8423 @ 0.00060442 = 5.091 BTC [-]
Jan 23 00:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00060309 = 5.1263 BTC [-]
Jan 23 01:02:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4177 @ 0.00060424 = 2.5239 BTC [+]
Jan 23 01:02:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00060843 = 4.4415 BTC [+]
Jan 23 01:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1418 @ 0.00061636 = 0.874 BTC [+]
Jan 23 01:06:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00527971 = 5.2797 BTC [+]
Jan 23 01:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 921 @ 0.00524349 = 4.8293 BTC [-]
Jan 23 01:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone is looking for a job ---> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-hiring-old-style-pr/
Jan 23 01:25:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00061954 = 4.058 BTC [+]
Jan 23 01:30:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00061954 = 7.3106 BTC [+]
Jan 23 01:32:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.3684 = 2.9472 BTC [-]
Jan 23 01:32:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 01:58:54 <Namworld>	I would take it, but I hardly post enough...
Jan 23 01:59:46 <dust-otc>	I would do PR for asic companies
Jan 23 02:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	post ?!
Jan 23 02:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	there's no posting involved.
Jan 23 02:03:19 <Namworld>	I'm reading it now... I can see this
Jan 23 02:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9058 @ 0.00061754 = 5.5937 BTC [-]
Jan 23 02:04:25 <Namworld>	by reading the link, I thought old style pr was something else.
Jan 23 02:04:37 <Namworld>	As in, more traditional.
Jan 23 02:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	well yeah.
Jan 23 02:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	that's what pr used to be, before sept 1991
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Jan 23 02:05:40 <Namworld>	As in, not wildly going around the forum like a rabid dog denigrating everything (regardless if deserved) and thus get visibility.
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Jan 23 02:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	heh who does that.
Jan 23 02:06:38 <Namworld>	MPOE-PR?
Jan 23 02:07:15 <Namworld>	Most of her post seems to be witch-hunting some random schmucks taking on a project too large for them and shooting them down.
Jan 23 02:07:27 <Namworld>	Or criticizing people or stuff.
Jan 23 02:08:03 <Namworld>	Well I guess on the visibility level, that does attract a lot of eyeballs.
Jan 23 02:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	this != denigrating everything (regardless if deserved)
Jan 23 02:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	neither as far as denigration goes, nor as far as deserved goes.
Jan 23 02:09:53 <Namworld>	Not what everyone seems to believes
Jan 23 02:10:46 <mircea_popescu>	well, so give an example.
Jan 23 02:10:48 <Namworld>	She might often be right in her predictions. It's still shooting down stuff on assumptions.
Jan 23 02:10:58 <mircea_popescu>	even her recent crusade against bfl (who aren't poor schmucks) seems to have been on the spot
Jan 23 02:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	they didn't, in the end, deliver first.
Jan 23 02:11:10 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 23 02:11:18 <Namworld>	But she can't always be right.
Jan 23 02:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	well nobody can
Jan 23 02:11:55 <Namworld>	Yeah. But denigrating can mean simply attacking the reputation of someone or belittling them. She does that alot.
Jan 23 02:12:29 <Namworld>	Especially for some "developers" not fit for making the service they offer and etc.
Jan 23 02:12:50 <Namworld>	But she seems to be a quick shot.
Jan 23 02:13:27 <mircea_popescu>	afaik truthfully denigrate is an oxymoron.
Jan 23 02:14:21 <Namworld>	Anyway, not what traditional PR account do.
Jan 23 02:14:58 <Namworld>	Those mostly answer questions, talk about the merits of the business and mostly doesn't care about whatever drama or  stuff happening around them.
Jan 23 02:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	actually, what pr does is get press mentions.
Jan 23 02:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	the rest is fluff.
Jan 23 02:16:22 <Namworld>	Normally.
Jan 23 02:16:50 <Namworld>	I just didn't get that from just reading the words from the link.
Jan 23 02:17:09 <Namworld>	Going to be hard to get mentionned in major news outlets.
Jan 23 02:17:23 <Namworld>	But feasible along some other bitcoin news.
Jan 23 02:17:41 <Namworld>	They talked of BFL, they talked of SilkRoad, they talked of BitPay
Jan 23 02:17:47 <Namworld>	I don't see why not MPEx
Jan 23 02:19:15 <Namworld>	Anyway. Got to go back to updating stuff for BitVPS
Jan 23 02:19:17 <Namworld>	later
Jan 23 02:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	gl.
Jan 23 02:21:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00061754 = 7.6884 BTC [-]
Jan 23 02:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00061851 = 6.2779 BTC [+]
Jan 23 02:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9183 @ 0.00061754 = 5.6709 BTC [-]
Jan 23 02:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4467 @ 0.00061323 = 2.7393 BTC [-]
Jan 23 02:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00061323 = 2.7595 BTC [-]
Jan 23 02:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3133 @ 0.00061323 = 1.9212 BTC [-]
Jan 23 02:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12617 @ 0.0006093 = 7.6875 BTC [-]
Jan 23 02:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2312 @ 0.00061607 = 1.4244 BTC [+]
Jan 23 02:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 307 @ 0.00061851 = 0.1899 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 03:05:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5033 @ 0.0006093 = 3.0666 BTC [-]
Jan 23 03:05:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4367 @ 0.00060856 = 2.6576 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 03:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7543 @ 0.00061851 = 4.6654 BTC [+]
Jan 23 03:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2830 @ 0.00061874 = 1.751 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 03:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00061855 = 15.6493 BTC [-]
Jan 23 03:50:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00061034 = 0.1831 BTC [-]
Jan 23 03:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15874 @ 0.00061034 = 9.6885 BTC [-]
Jan 23 03:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14026 @ 0.00060856 = 8.5357 BTC [-]
Jan 23 04:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7670 @ 0.00060856 = 4.6677 BTC [-]
Jan 23 04:10:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7371 @ 0.00060823 = 4.4833 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 04:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 843 @ 0.00524349 = 4.4203 BTC [-]
Jan 23 04:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00513129 = 1.5394 BTC [-]
Jan 23 04:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1457 @ 0.0051312 = 7.4762 BTC [-]
Jan 23 04:31:55 <EskimoBob_afk>	good morning everyone
Jan 23 04:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00060823 = 1.7815 BTC [-]
Jan 23 04:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00060684 = 3.1859 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 04:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22943 @ 0.00060474 = 13.8745 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 04:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3188 @ 0.00060309 = 1.9227 BTC [-]
Jan 23 04:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13212 @ 0.00060288 = 7.9653 BTC [-]
Jan 23 04:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00060288 = 12.4193 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 04:53:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3188 @ 0.00060288 = 1.922 BTC [-]
Jan 23 04:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1912 @ 0.00060278 = 1.1525 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 05:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23708 @ 0.00060278 = 14.2907 BTC [-]
Jan 23 05:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00060262 = 4.369 BTC [-]
Jan 23 05:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16375 @ 0.00060224 = 9.8617 BTC [-]
Jan 23 05:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22767 @ 0.00060224 = 13.7112 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 05:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11697 @ 0.00060474 = 7.0736 BTC [+]
Jan 23 05:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10481 @ 0.00060474 = 6.3383 BTC [+]
Jan 23 05:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12130 @ 0.00060902 = 7.3874 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 05:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00060057 = 5.1649 BTC [-]
Jan 23 05:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00060648 = 9.1578 BTC [+]
Jan 23 05:58:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00060902 = 3.6541 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 06:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00060902 = 6.6992 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 06:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1153 @ 0.00060057 = 0.6925 BTC [-]
Jan 23 06:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00060042 = 10.027 BTC [-]
Jan 23 06:21:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19147 @ 0.00059937 = 11.4761 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 06:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.01310272 = 13.1027 BTC [-]
Jan 23 06:36:59 <jurov>	mornin
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Jan 23 06:44:37 <Namworld>	hey jurov
Jan 23 06:44:53 <Namworld>	Just done fixing BitVPS billing... well most of it... still working on that
Jan 23 06:45:23 <jurov>	hey... so... you misbilled me or?
Jan 23 06:46:00 <Namworld>	No, but it concerns you and everyone
Jan 23 06:46:16 <Namworld>	Basically, there's no way to automatically update the price for everyone.
Jan 23 06:46:37 <Namworld>	and all price are based on fixed USD
Jan 23 06:46:56 <Namworld>	So we're switching everyone to USD pricing.
Jan 23 06:47:11 <EskimoBob_>	Namworld: Hi. Did you guy come up with a plan how to clear up BitVPS PT and delisting  fiasco?
Jan 23 06:47:34 <jurov>	i herd they are moving to btct
Jan 23 06:47:36 <Namworld>	That way, everyone always pays the exact price based on MtGox
Jan 23 06:47:45 <Namworld>	Yes, we chose BTCT.co
Jan 23 06:48:18 <jurov>	heh, good luck with burnside.
Jan 23 06:48:55 <Namworld>	?
Jan 23 06:49:15 <Namworld>	thanks
Jan 23 06:49:25 <jurov>	i just have some own experience with him
Jan 23 06:49:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2644 @ 0.00525465 = 13.8933 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3164 @ 0.00527971 = 16.705 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00532851 = 10.657 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	"I work in fraud investigation and forensic accounting. People bring me crazy stories all the time. One such story was from a contractor who was hired to put in ventilation to a building for a bunch of servers. The owner later bragged about how he was stealing/counter fitting bitcoins and selling them. I have no idea how this all works but my advice is the same as Wulfar's, stay away from it"
Jan 23 06:49:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00536067 = 4.8246 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0053929 = 1.6179 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6000 @ 0.00539293 = 32.3576 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 377 @ 0.00541028 = 2.0397 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	people. srsly fucken retarded.
Jan 23 06:49:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5060 @ 0.00579999 = 29.3479 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00579999 = 57.9999 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0058 = 58 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4900 @ 0.0059 = 28.91 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00595622 = 5.9562 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8651 @ 0.00599 = 51.8195 BTC [+]
Jan 23 06:50:15 <mircea_popescu>	(sauce http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/61424-bitcoin-mining-for-silvers/ _
Jan 23 06:50:37 <EskimoBob_>	"Namworld | Yes, we chose BTCT.co " - good idea
Jan 23 06:50:59 <Namworld>	jurov seems to indicate he has some bad experience with burnside
Jan 23 06:52:25 <jurov>	not really bad... just annoying stuff on teh forums, got called borderline scammer
Jan 23 06:53:11 <jurov>	without real reason, he did not even try coinbr afaik
Jan 23 06:53:23 <EskimoBob_>	jurov's nose is so deeply up the Major Puppets arse, you can see it, when Puppet talks. :)
Jan 23 06:53:29 <Namworld>	oh...
Jan 23 06:53:36 <EskimoBob_>	sad story
Jan 23 06:53:59 <jurov>	Ukto had it similar. So i avoid btct and ltccc
Jan 23 06:54:09 <EskimoBob_>	he is probably a good guy and all
Jan 23 06:54:49 <EskimoBob_>	I guess he did not know: if you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas :)
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Jan 23 06:56:16 <jurov>	ic. some fleas think they are dogs
Jan 23 06:56:19 <EskimoBob_>	lol, Ukto runs a competing exchange but is a really nice guy (at least so far)
Jan 23 06:57:10 <EskimoBob_>	LOL
Jan 23 06:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	ok, that's a good line right there.
Jan 23 06:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	ima steal it.
Jan 23 06:57:51 <EskimoBob_>	i guess stealing is in your blood
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Jan 23 07:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1117186#msg1117186
Jan 23 07:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	im kinda sad nobody lent him stock to short at 32
Jan 23 07:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00059938 = 4.1957 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 07:13:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00059938 = 0.5994 BTC [+]
Jan 23 07:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00059937 = 6.7729 BTC [-]
Jan 23 07:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	Re: customer deposts: I can't give you guys coins that I don't have, but I will likely be paying users out of pocket for this in a manner that is affordable.  The way the site was set up before, apparently, advertisers were not allowed to withdrawal at all.  I want to change things like this to allow that sort of functionality but I am not going to be able to do that especially if you guys try to all withdrawal at once
Jan 23 07:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	, it's just not going to be feasible, and if giantdragon still had the site, apparently, he wouldn't have paid advertiser balances out anyway.  Advertisers would use their balances for advertising, and the publishers had the ability to be paid out.  If a publisher has a balance and the amount requested for withdrawal is reasonable, I'll just pay it out of pocket, but it's not like I have a massive bitcoin balance to be
Jan 23 07:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	 paying out of.  I have a very little amount of bitcoin, and after buying coinurl the amount is laughable but if the total amount of publisher withdrawals is a few BTC a week or something then I can make that happen.  Be reasonable, be patient, and this transition will be pretty seamless.
Jan 23 07:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty great.
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Jan 23 07:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller you gotta read this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137084.msg1465225#msg1465225
Jan 23 07:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	part after last quote
Jan 23 07:38:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13020 @ 0.00060902 = 7.9294 BTC [+]
Jan 23 07:38:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00061221 = 4.8977 BTC [+]
Jan 23 07:38:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6380 @ 0.00061306 = 3.9113 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 07:46:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6732 @ 0.00061306 = 4.1271 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 07:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11644 @ 0.00060252 = 7.0157 BTC [-]
Jan 23 07:51:32 <thestringpuller>	nice, 100btc was too steep for me atm
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Jan 23 07:53:02 <Namworld>	S.DICE going up up uo
Jan 23 07:53:37 <Bugpowder>	over 100k bet in the last 17 hours
Jan 23 07:53:48 <Bugpowder>	dice up about 10k for the month I think
Jan 23 07:53:55 <Namworld>	and still going?
Jan 23 07:54:00 <Bugpowder>	including the latest
Jan 23 07:54:34 <Bugpowder>	yeah the last burst of 4,000 bet was 8 minutes ago
Jan 23 07:54:40 <Bugpowder>	haven't included it yet actually :)
Jan 23 07:54:45 <Namworld>	freakin whales
Jan 23 07:56:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00061306 = 2.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 23 07:57:22 <Bugpowder>	+9200 on >115,000 bet
Jan 23 07:57:31 <Bugpowder>	roughly
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Jan 23 07:57:51 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 23 07:57:52 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051312 / 0.00543782 / 0.00599 (145859 shares, 793.16 BTC), 7D: 0.00454703 / 0.00511 / 0.00599 (711971 shares, 3,638.17 BTC), 30D: 0.00343244 / 0.00417666 / 0.00599 (9620260 shares, 40,180.62 BTC)
Jan 23 07:58:33 <Namworld>	Good, good
Jan 23 07:58:49 <Namworld>	I'll keep updated with dooglus next update
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Jan 23 08:14:18 *	EskimoBob_afk is now known as EskimoBob
Jan 23 08:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller was 50 in the end they say
Jan 23 08:18:58 <EskimoBob>	Namworld and Bugpowder, how do you guys know it's not evorheese himself or some of his sock puppets? This is the best marketing they can do and it cost them close to nothing
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Jan 23 08:19:56 <Namworld>	Actually... they lose 1.9%, of which a good part goes to shareholders...
Jan 23 08:20:15 <EskimoBob>	this is NOTHING compare to possible gain ;)
Jan 23 08:20:27 <Namworld>	gains from what?
Jan 23 08:20:59 <EskimoBob>	IPO ...
Jan 23 08:21:30 <EskimoBob>	is money in the "bank" and no matter what happens
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Jan 23 08:22:08 <EskimoBob>	at this rate, it takes about 6+ years to earn it they bagged in months
Jan 23 08:22:29 <EskimoBob>	*what they*
Jan 23 08:22:34 <EskimoBob>	or just "he"
Jan 23 08:23:23 <Namworld>	But IPO is already finished...
Jan 23 08:23:33 <EskimoBob>	yes, I know.
Jan 23 08:23:42 <EskimoBob>	"money in the "bank" :)
Jan 23 08:23:42 <Namworld>	10 million shares sold, all that was issued on MPEx...
Jan 23 08:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18056 @ 0.00060252 = 10.8791 BTC [-]
Jan 23 08:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16185 @ 0.00059937 = 9.7008 BTC [-]
Jan 23 08:24:08 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: those huge trades helped to sell this crap out as fast as it did
Jan 23 08:24:18 <EskimoBob>	huge bets
Jan 23 08:24:21 <Namworld>	Ok, he made a lot of money on the IPO.
Jan 23 08:24:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 620 @ 0.18660466 = 115.6949 BTC [+]
Jan 23 08:24:28 <EskimoBob>	good for you :)
Jan 23 08:24:30 <EskimoBob>	so did I
Jan 23 08:24:43 <EskimoBob>	but this is not the point
Jan 23 08:25:10 <Namworld>	I don't see why it would go on. Still people betting large sums
Jan 23 08:25:22 <Namworld>	Why would evoorhee be betting now?
Jan 23 08:25:24 <EskimoBob>	IPO was only 10%
Jan 23 08:25:28 <Namworld>	Earlier, maybe.
Jan 23 08:25:42 <Namworld>	Yeah, but 90% is not issued on MPEx
Jan 23 08:25:55 <EskimoBob>	can it be just a prelude to next PO?
Jan 23 08:26:02 <Namworld>	Maybe...
Jan 23 08:26:10 <Namworld>	We'll see
Jan 23 08:26:30 <Namworld>	I wouldn't have IPOed
Jan 23 08:26:40 <Namworld>	Would have kept 100% of SatoshiDice
Jan 23 08:26:59 <EskimoBob>	take 6 years earning for giving up a shitty 10% of of nothing?
Jan 23 08:27:36 <EskimoBob>	why not? This probably put the sdice "on the map"
Jan 23 08:28:23 <Namworld>	Not 6 years earnings.
Jan 23 08:29:00 <EskimoBob>	what ever the PE is
Jan 23 08:29:11 <EskimoBob>	11?
Jan 23 08:29:38 <Namworld>	Even if he sold at 0.004, that's only 40000 BTC for the 10 million shares.
Jan 23 08:29:59 <EskimoBob>	and?
Jan 23 08:30:50 <Namworld>	That's 2-3 year earnings if we keep getting 1000 BTC+ per month in dividends
Jan 23 08:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld that's a problem, really. pretty much nobody wants to list for that reason
Jan 23 08:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	(+ not having to deal with idiots)
Jan 23 08:31:20 <Namworld>	Assuming betting doesn't stop.
Jan 23 08:31:27 <EskimoBob>	look who's talking
Jan 23 08:31:59 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: how's your butt?
Jan 23 08:32:02 <Namworld>	I issued loan bonds. I pay 10.95% per year on BTC debt. People still loan me funds.
Jan 23 08:32:17 <Namworld>	Best deal an issuer can get.
Jan 23 08:32:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28562 @ 0.00059937 = 17.1192 BTC [-]
Jan 23 08:32:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 471 @ 0.00059928 = 0.2823 BTC [-]
Jan 23 08:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11467 @ 0.00059858 = 6.8639 BTC [-]
Jan 23 08:32:49 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: debt and equity are a bit different animals :)
Jan 23 08:32:58 <Namworld>	Yeah, I suppose.
Jan 23 08:33:22 <Namworld>	Still... I think it was a bad deal for evoorhees to IPO
Jan 23 08:33:33 <EskimoBob>	not at all
Jan 23 08:34:12 <Namworld>	... find me one godlike stock which gains 100% in 2-3 years...
Jan 23 08:34:14 <EskimoBob>	you see, he did not really need the coin to develop the game
Jan 23 08:34:35 <Namworld>	He did not... but he lose longterm.
Jan 23 08:34:43 <EskimoBob>	he auctioned off a fraction of hes CO and now he is set for a very long time even
Jan 23 08:34:54 <Namworld>	Assuming all betting is real
Jan 23 08:34:59 <EskimoBob>	exactly
Jan 23 08:35:07 <Namworld>	He'd get more long term just keeping 100%
Jan 23 08:35:16 <EskimoBob>	no at all
Jan 23 08:35:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://investmentwatchblog.com/wtf-facebook-wants-a-photo-id-now/ kinda funnay
Jan 23 08:35:31 <EskimoBob>	because the party can end tomorrow
Jan 23 08:35:47 <Namworld>	If it does, than yeah
Jan 23 08:36:06 <Namworld>	I'd be surprised SatoshiDice would get closed/outranked.
Jan 23 08:36:18 <EskimoBob>	Oh, btw, thanx for clearing up the bitvps stuff
Jan 23 08:36:37 <EskimoBob>	no need for another drama in the btc world :)
Jan 23 08:37:12 <kakobrekla>	rofl http://youtu.be/e2HwRM9eBCs?t=34m28s
Jan 23 08:37:13 <Namworld>	Well I try to avoid such drama.
Jan 23 08:37:38 <Namworld>	Actually I don't even really try. My threads tend to be dramaless.
Jan 23 08:37:49 <Namworld>	They're almost ghost towns.
Jan 23 08:38:07 <Namworld>	It's almost just me posting updates every month or two
Jan 23 08:38:45 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: and do not forget, he has the coin now, in btc, he might or might not earn in years to come. All he did, was give up a tiny % for eliminating the risk
Jan 23 08:39:02 <Namworld>	Yeah
Jan 23 08:39:10 <Namworld>	Well 40000BTC is a neat cushion
Jan 23 08:39:23 <EskimoBob>	do you regret bitvps IPO?
Jan 23 08:40:05 <Namworld>	Well I didn't do it... and in that case, it financed rg's business actually, funds were needed.
Jan 23 08:40:24 <Namworld>	Plus I wouldn't have bought shares or known rg at all without the IPO.
Jan 23 08:40:47 <EskimoBob>	giving up so little for so much more...
Jan 23 08:40:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 250 @ 0.001139 = 0.2848 BTC [+]
Jan 23 08:40:58 <Namworld>	Which means rg wouldn't have invited me to take over BitVPS with arij and phungus
Jan 23 08:41:24 <Namworld>	So I suppose I don't regret the IPO.
Jan 23 08:41:28 <EskimoBob>	:)
Jan 23 08:41:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18393 @ 0.00061283 = 11.2718 BTC [+]
Jan 23 08:42:01 <Namworld>	Well for SatoshiDice, the coins were not needed.
Jan 23 08:42:16 <Namworld>	I'd have taken the risk and just get all for myself.
Jan 23 08:42:20 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: but risks eliminated? yes they did
Jan 23 08:42:31 <EskimoBob>	to end up with nothing?
Jan 23 08:42:39 <EskimoBob>	50:50 chance :)
Jan 23 08:42:49 <EskimoBob>	fuck that!
Jan 23 08:42:50 <Namworld>	If my business ends up earning nothing, well so be it...
Jan 23 08:43:22 <EskimoBob>	actually, at some level you are right
Jan 23 08:44:04 <EskimoBob>	I guess the greed and fear helped evoorhees to make the decision he made
Jan 23 08:44:13 <Namworld>	Either some shareholders lose, or I lose...
Jan 23 08:44:20 <EskimoBob>	and investors greed woked out well for him
Jan 23 08:44:36 <Namworld>	I'd chose all the risks, all the rewards
Jan 23 08:45:08 <Namworld>	Ah, well anyway.
Jan 23 08:45:11 <EskimoBob>	I hope he uses the coin for something good and not just pissing away at blow and hookers... LOL
Jan 23 08:45:26 <Namworld>	I hope so.
Jan 23 08:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00598998 = 2.995 BTC [-]
Jan 23 08:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00598999 = 5.99 BTC [+]
Jan 23 08:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00599 = 4.792 BTC [+]
Jan 23 08:45:36 <Namworld>	He already got a massive earning BTC business
Jan 23 08:45:58 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: really? Like what?
Jan 23 08:46:18 <Namworld>	Well SD...
Jan 23 08:46:43 <EskimoBob>	what else?
Jan 23 08:46:45 <Namworld>	So I'd have put the coins on some stock of fiat stock exchange.
Jan 23 08:47:30 *	EskimoBob is now known as EskimoBob_afk
Jan 23 08:47:31 <Namworld>	Get a little edge
Jan 23 08:47:45 *	EskimoBob_afk is afk now
Jan 23 08:47:54 <Namworld>	Anyway, 8:47 am... I need sleep.
Jan 23 08:48:02 <EskimoBob_afk>	mircea_popescu: you can start spewing your crap now
Jan 23 08:48:04 <EskimoBob_afk>	LOL!
Jan 23 08:48:25 <Namworld>	Was up all night working on BitVPS
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Jan 23 08:48:48 <EskimoBob_afk>	Namworld: I hope it's good news
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Jan 23 08:51:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 350 @ 0.001139 = 0.3987 BTC [+]
Jan 23 08:53:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00059858 = 1.0972 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 09:03:06 <jurov>	Namworld, if you ran sdice privately, how would you cover 2k loss like one in november?
Jan 23 09:03:32 <jurov>	you can get 2k just by issuing bonds?
Jan 23 09:03:45 <jurov>	or you'd have to lower the bet limit considerably
Jan 23 09:05:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 549 @ 0.00599 = 3.2885 BTC [+]
Jan 23 09:05:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00599355 = 10.7884 BTC [+]
Jan 23 09:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13633 @ 0.00059657 = 8.133 BTC [-]
Jan 23 09:07:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00059617 = 16.5735 BTC [-]
Jan 23 09:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8785 @ 0.00059592 = 5.2352 BTC [-]
Jan 23 09:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 300 @ 0.001139 = 0.3417 BTC [+]
Jan 23 09:14:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00059673 = 5.5794 BTC [+]
Jan 23 09:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20215 @ 0.00059592 = 12.0465 BTC [-]
Jan 23 09:19:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8802 @ 0.00059485 = 5.2359 BTC [-]
Jan 23 09:19:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 833 @ 0.00059445 = 0.4952 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 09:31:49 <thestringpuller>	wow money is being taken out of mpex and placed into s.dice
Jan 23 09:31:53 <thestringpuller>	mpoe*
Jan 23 09:36:56 <jurov>	or s.bbet... and coinbr users match each other's orders, causing new bugs to pop up
Jan 23 09:37:41 <jurov>	doh, making my own exchange would be easier than this
Jan 23 09:38:01 <thestringpuller>	where is our api lol
Jan 23 09:38:47 <thestringpuller>	BBET is more profitable to run bets on as a business than investing in the stock
Jan 23 09:41:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00059673 = 4.5351 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 09:43:22 <thestringpuller>	I wish you could p2p sue someone.
Jan 23 09:46:31 <thestringpuller>	move le money!
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Jan 23 09:50:20 <pigeons>	well you can use the rota but even if you pay the judges and neg rate them for ruling you should return someone else's funds you may still lose
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Jan 23 10:02:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2717 @ 0.00059673 = 1.6213 BTC [+]
Jan 23 10:04:57 <EskimoBob_afk>	lol, nicely put pigeons man
Jan 23 10:04:58 <jcpham>	hello
Jan 23 10:05:34 <jcpham>	fuck all the nonsense
Jan 23 10:05:44 <jcpham>	the rota was used improperly for a moral judgement
Jan 23 10:05:58 <jcpham>	it's mircea_popescu discretion toreturn funds
Jan 23 10:06:17 <jcpham>	the blockchain predetermined it. he asked the rota to make a moral decision
Jan 23 10:07:03 <jurov>	jcpham, can't get over it?
Jan 23 10:07:15 <jurov>	lol i told mircea maybe first rota case will be about "mpoe-pr is public nuisance" cause it falls into its scope
Jan 23 10:07:22 <jurov>	was not so far from truth
Jan 23 10:07:25 <EskimoBob_afk>	LOL
Jan 23 10:07:27 <jcpham>	the choices were a) yes return the money b) no do not
Jan 23 10:07:35 <jcpham>	but what happened was door number three
Jan 23 10:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00614098 = 15.3525 BTC [+]
Jan 23 10:07:50 <jcpham>	and behind door number three are 3 strangers making moral decisions
Jan 23 10:08:32 <jcpham>	let's be clear: the blockchain is in fact permanent imho
Jan 23 10:08:44 <jcpham>	it isn't decision to reverse blockchain transactions
Jan 23 10:08:49 <EskimoBob_afk>	jcpham: what is it exactly, that bothers you?
Jan 23 10:08:57 <EskimoBob_afk>	or let me ask this what happened there?
Jan 23 10:09:19 <jcpham>	the person who....requested all of this.....either directly or indirectly....and their reaction
Jan 23 10:09:33 <EskimoBob_afk>	I am not a reader of MP-Idiots-Daily
Jan 23 10:09:38 <pigeons>	twas directly
Jan 23 10:09:50 <jcpham>	indecision is the lack of action
Jan 23 10:10:14 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu directly told wences to use the rota instead of settling it
Jan 23 10:10:16 <EskimoBob_afk>	hold on, popescu lost, was told to hand over the coin and now he is pissed off?
Jan 23 10:10:24 <pigeons>	EskimoBob_afk: correct
Jan 23 10:10:39 <EskimoBob_afk>	This IS fkn funny
Jan 23 10:11:03 <jcpham>	i'm not upset. i just think it should be made the clear the rota shouldn't be deciding moral debates about customer service
Jan 23 10:11:07 <EskimoBob_afk>	what did he expect? THat every member is going to dance by his music?
Jan 23 10:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2634 @ 0.00061283 = 1.6142 BTC [+]
Jan 23 10:12:12 <pigeons>	actually that was a common legal issue and it is ALWAYS resolved that no matter the afreement if you can fix a problem like that easily you are required
Jan 23 10:12:45 <EskimoBob_afk>	If he keeps up this crap, sooner or later even the biggest fan-boys will realize what a lunatic he actually is just run for the hills
Jan 23 10:13:08 <jcpham>	EskimoBob_afk i think you may be a larger fanboi than me
Jan 23 10:13:16 <jcpham>	Boomshakalak
Jan 23 10:13:20 <jcpham>	;)
Jan 23 10:13:27 <EskimoBob_afk>	jcpham: lets start a club?
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Jan 23 10:13:42 <jcpham>	i don't play well with others
Jan 23 10:13:47 <EskimoBob_afk>	we can bot be el presidentos and we can give each other medals
Jan 23 10:14:03 <EskimoBob_afk>	like they do in Major Puppets land :)
Jan 23 10:22:34 <imsaguy>	EskimoBob_afk is clearly a liar.
Jan 23 10:23:32 <imsaguy>	Unless he now types using psychokinesis
Jan 23 10:23:44 <jcpham>	look it's an imsaguy
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Jan 23 10:30:50 <EskimoBob_afk>	imsaguy :) Yee, pirateat40 last sock puppet
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Jan 23 10:32:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00061092 = 12.9515 BTC [-]
Jan 23 10:32:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6855 @ 0.00060879 = 4.1733 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 10:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00060444 = 19.1607 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 10:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5049 @ 0.00060444 = 3.0518 BTC [-]
Jan 23 10:41:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5323 @ 0.00061283 = 3.2621 BTC [+]
Jan 23 10:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9428 @ 0.00061306 = 5.7799 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 10:44:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0059 = 0.059 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 10:54:50 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 23 10:54:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.30000, Best ask: 17.30077, Bid-ask spread: 0.00077, Last trade: 17.30000, 24 hour volume: 54870.17966918, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58890, 24 hour vwap: 17.21227
Jan 23 10:54:51 <Bugpowder>	boom
Jan 23 10:55:02 <Bugpowder>	17.25 and 17.30 walls just got bot
Jan 23 11:00:26 <topace>	ill bot your walls
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Jan 23 11:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15309 @ 0.00060438 = 9.2525 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 11:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00060438 = 4.1702 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 11:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 23 11:23:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.29900, Best ask: 17.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05099, Last trade: 17.29900, 24 hour volume: 54137.88100753, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58890, 24 hour vwap: 17.21015
Jan 23 11:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 851 @ 0.00600303 = 5.1086 BTC [-]
Jan 23 11:29:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 349 @ 0.00595519 = 2.0784 BTC [-]
Jan 23 11:29:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticke S.MPOE
Jan 23 11:29:21 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Jan 23 11:29:21 <assbot>	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
Jan 23 11:29:26 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Jan 23 11:29:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00059445 / 0.00060973 / 0.00062988 (2042391 shares, 1,245.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00063728 / 0.00068 (12240334 shares, 7,800.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00064382 / 0.00068 (39855484 shares, 25,659.87 BTC)
Jan 23 11:29:38 <thestringpuller>	neither are you assbot
Jan 23 11:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	assbot smokes teh cok since he was six months old.
Jan 23 11:31:21 <thestringpuller>	What's the guy who runs bitvps' name?
Jan 23 11:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	there's 3 now. namworld you mean ?
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Jan 23 11:38:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 14 @ 0.0089 = 0.1246 BTC [+]
Jan 23 11:38:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 59 @ 0.0089 = 0.5251 BTC [+]
Jan 23 11:40:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 38 @ 0.009 = 0.342 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 11:42:58 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell Namworld I need an emergency VPS, possible NS hosting/transfer
Jan 23 11:42:58 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 23 11:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00060433 = 2.8101 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 11:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.30282548 = 302.8255 BTC [+]
Jan 23 11:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.36117336 = 361.1734 BTC [+]
Jan 23 11:47:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.24447761 = 244.4776 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 11:54:41 <Korbman>	;;ticker
Jan 23 11:54:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.40102, Best ask: 17.47277, Bid-ask spread: 0.07175, Last trade: 17.40102, 24 hour volume: 53901.83917218, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58890, 24 hour vwap: 17.20956
Jan 23 11:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8791 @ 0.00060438 = 5.3131 BTC [+]
Jan 23 11:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00060884 = 11.1722 BTC [+]
Jan 23 11:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00061236 = 18.1259 BTC [+]
Jan 23 11:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1160 @ 0.00061306 = 0.7111 BTC [+]
Jan 23 11:55:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1699 @ 0.00061405 = 1.0433 BTC [+]
Jan 23 12:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.533 BTC [+]
Jan 23 12:02:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00614 = 7.982 BTC [+]
Jan 23 12:17:59 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 23 12:17:59 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 1 hour, 14 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <smickles> what was the final precursor last time? a bunch of puts bought, calls sold?
Jan 23 12:18:06 <Ukto>	smickles: around?
Jan 23 12:18:14 <thestringpuller>	no
Jan 23 12:18:23 <thestringpuller>	bad internet
Jan 23 12:18:35 <Ukto>	btw
Jan 23 12:18:43 <Ukto>	did you really want me to play through to disc 2 on ff7? :/
Jan 23 12:18:50 *	Ukto had time to play about 2hrs the other night :/
Jan 23 12:18:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.30241793 = 302.4179 BTC [-]
Jan 23 12:18:55 *	Ukto does really wannaplay it more now though LOL
Jan 23 12:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.24403609 = 244.0361 BTC [-]
Jan 23 12:18:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.36079977 = 360.7998 BTC [-]
Jan 23 12:19:00 <thestringpuller>	no. just send it to me duuuh
Jan 23 12:19:08 <thestringpuller>	i pay btc mr. 2 copies
Jan 23 12:19:10 <Ukto>	I am seriously ocncerned about the scratces tho
Jan 23 12:19:36 <Ukto>	you want 2 copies?
Jan 23 12:19:46 <thestringpuller>	i have a disc 2 i only technically need disc 2
Jan 23 12:19:54 <Ukto>	0,o
Jan 23 12:19:55 <thestringpuller>	err disc 1
Jan 23 12:19:58 <Ukto>	oh
Jan 23 12:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/0Um67nJ.png
Jan 23 12:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	hm, this looks distinctly bullish
Jan 23 12:22:28 <jcpham>	it will be difficult to stop for sure
Jan 23 12:22:47 <jcpham>	if people keep sending coins to gox to sell, that is
Jan 23 12:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	seems therre's 3x as much fiat as coins
Jan 23 12:23:26 <jcpham>	yeah
Jan 23 12:23:42 <jcpham>	what would be even more interesting is if the asks got even shallower
Jan 23 12:24:02 <jcpham>	nad gox starts to dry up
Jan 23 12:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	it prolly will
Jan 23 12:24:21 <jcpham>	it seems close
Jan 23 12:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	what people don't realise is that btc is a lot like s.dice
Jan 23 12:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	fixed pool available, buy it out it's out.
Jan 23 12:24:52 <jcpham>	the bulls have taken over gox
Jan 23 12:24:55 <thestringpuller>	thats any stock...
Jan 23 12:24:55 <jcpham>	that is certain
Jan 23 12:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller anything wioth fixed supply. people think btc "is money" thus fully inflationary bs fiat.
Jan 23 12:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	it's not.
Jan 23 12:26:17 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: those people need to watch the introductory video
Jan 23 12:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	there's levels. on some intellectual level they get it
Jan 23 12:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	but on the gut level they still think "money" = fiat
Jan 23 12:27:32 <thestringpuller>	gold is like that in physical reality...
Jan 23 12:27:44 <thestringpuller>	gold is as old as the earth so it seems
Jan 23 12:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	well no, gold is much older than earth.
Jan 23 12:28:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00061327 = 5.2435 BTC [-]
Jan 23 12:28:11 <jcpham>	i was going to make that point also
Jan 23 12:28:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8177 @ 0.00061405 = 5.0211 BTC [+]
Jan 23 12:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	sun-level stars can synthesize at most iron
Jan 23 12:28:15 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 23 12:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	stuff like gold comes from supernovas
Jan 23 12:28:28 <jcpham>	gold is ancient as space and time itself almost
Jan 23 12:28:35 <jcpham>	in terms of human perseption
Jan 23 12:28:53 <jcpham>	perception
Jan 23 12:29:00 <jcpham>	my type is fail
Jan 23 12:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	ok jspham
Jan 23 12:29:02 <thestringpuller>	helium is more rare than gold but tghat isnt truly my point
Jan 23 12:29:13 <thestringpuller>	that*
Jan 23 12:29:14 <mircea_popescu>	helium is not more rare than gold.
Jan 23 12:29:22 <thestringpuller>	on earth
Jan 23 12:29:29 <thestringpuller>	;)
Jan 23 12:29:51 <thestringpuller>	^perception. you plan on mining the sun mp?
Jan 23 12:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	even so ?! 1 mol of gold is what, 200kgs
Jan 23 12:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	1 mol of helium is 22.4 liters.
Jan 23 12:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	prolly 1000:1 he:au
Jan 23 12:30:24 <jcpham>	yeah but we waste helium and talk funny
Jan 23 12:30:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8796 @ 0.00060598 = 5.3302 BTC [-]
Jan 23 12:31:01 <jcpham>	i'd waste gold if it made me talk funny
Jan 23 12:31:11 <thestringpuller>	my point was that finite things always run ouy
Jan 23 12:31:14 <thestringpuller>	out*
Jan 23 12:31:19 <kakobrekla>	id does if you waste it for helium
Jan 23 12:31:24 <kakobrekla>	it
Jan 23 12:31:27 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 23 12:31:30 <jcpham>	haha
Jan 23 12:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 23 12:31:48 <thestringpuller>	people will always be selling btc though
Jan 23 12:31:57 <thestringpuller>	pumps
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Jan 23 12:35:42 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Jan 23 12:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051312 / 0.00548008 / 0.00614098 (153015 shares, 838.54 BTC), 7D: 0.00454708 / 0.00530983 / 0.00614098 (481678 shares, 2,557.63 BTC), 30D: 0.00343244 / 0.00417854 / 0.00614098 (9629909 shares, 40,238.99 BTC)
Jan 23 12:35:50 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 23 12:35:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.31862, Best ask: 17.33000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01138, Last trade: 17.33000, 24 hour volume: 53588.45314260, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58890, 24 hour vwap: 17.20807
Jan 23 12:36:24 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 23 12:36:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.51000001 / 0.53671746 / 0.55500000 (177 shares, 94.99898964 BTC), 7D: 0.48000000 / 0.54341709 / 0.62000000 (637 shares, 346.15668934 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.46687217 / 0.62000000 (4172 shares, 1947.79068932 BTC)
Jan 23 12:37:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C170T
Jan 23 12:37:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  /  /  ( shares,  BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Jan 23 12:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.53999999 = 4.86 BTC [+]
Jan 23 12:48:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 108 @ 0.00602995 = 0.6512 BTC [-]
Jan 23 12:48:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00602994 = 13.8689 BTC [-]
Jan 23 12:48:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 851 @ 0.00595519 = 5.0679 BTC [-]
Jan 23 12:48:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1741 @ 0.00592487 = 10.3152 BTC [-]
Jan 23 12:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.54 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 13:08:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC
Jan 23 13:11:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00061253 = 1.3476 BTC [+]
Jan 23 13:11:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00061405 = 11.9433 BTC [+]
Jan 23 13:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7004 @ 0.00060598 = 4.2443 BTC [-]
Jan 23 13:13:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7392 @ 0.00060433 = 4.4672 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 13:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5058 @ 0.00060433 = 3.0567 BTC [-]
Jan 23 13:22:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12349 @ 0.0006033 = 7.4502 BTC [-]
Jan 23 13:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4743 @ 0.00060084 = 2.8498 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 13:34:23 <jurov>	*reads scrollback* oh, there will be supply... when most scams decide to close and sell
Jan 23 13:35:41 <jurov>	or vice versa hehe
Jan 23 13:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00060085 = 12.017 BTC [+]
Jan 23 13:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 457 @ 0.00060084 = 0.2746 BTC [-]
Jan 23 13:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2593 @ 0.00059517 = 1.5433 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 13:41:02 <Korbman>	;;ticker m s.dice
Jan 23 13:41:02 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Jan 23 13:41:14 <Korbman>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 23 13:41:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051312 / 0.00550902 / 0.00614098 (150853 shares, 831.05 BTC), 7D: 0.00454708 / 0.00533426 / 0.00614098 (471074 shares, 2,512.83 BTC), 30D: 0.00343244 / 0.00417947 / 0.00614098 (9634909 shares, 40,268.90 BTC)
Jan 23 13:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	jurov not that many scams left.
Jan 23 13:41:48 <Korbman>	;;ticker
Jan 23 13:41:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.33904, Best ask: 17.41799, Bid-ask spread: 0.07895, Last trade: 17.33904, 24 hour volume: 52619.42457762, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58890, 24 hour vwap: 17.19969
Jan 23 13:42:54 <Bugpowder>	Epic betting session
Jan 23 13:42:57 <Bugpowder>	still going
Jan 23 13:43:08 <Bugpowder>	now >150k in <24hrs
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Jan 23 13:43:49 <JWU_42>	woah
Jan 23 13:44:05 <JWU_42>	maybe that has something to do with Gox
Jan 23 13:44:16 <JWU_42>	buying up BTC to bet on SD
Jan 23 13:44:18 <JWU_42>	;)
Jan 23 13:45:11 <jurov>	does anyone know how much all the asic companies raised? it's pirate-level or less?
Jan 23 13:45:43 <error4733>	3.48M$
Jan 23 13:45:47 <error4733>	ish
Jan 23 13:45:53 <jcpham>	see i understand bit-pay as a payment processor that acts in fiat
Jan 23 13:45:56 <jcpham>	and keeps the btc
Jan 23 13:46:20 <jcpham>	after the BFL asic announcement, they were seeking buyers off the exchange
Jan 23 13:46:40 <jcpham>	if they have the financial fiat backing to process directly in fiat
Jan 23 13:46:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15279 @ 0.00061064 = 9.33 BTC [+]
Jan 23 13:46:45 <jcpham>	and then simply hold the btc
Jan 23 13:47:02 <jcpham>	or sell it, or have fun with walls
Jan 23 13:47:21 <jcpham>	that makes bit-pay a goliath
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Jan 23 13:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it's probably about there.
Jan 23 13:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	depends if you count btc or usd and how narrow you cap things
Jan 23 13:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham if they try to play the market uninsured they are doomed.
Jan 23 13:49:10 <jcpham>	its a risky proposition for sure
Jan 23 13:49:28 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, any random geek things two things of himself
Jan 23 13:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	that he can code a clone to X and that he can "play the market".
Jan 23 13:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	neither are in fact true.
Jan 23 13:50:06 <jcpham>	i just wonder who's in control of those coins and how they make it back to market
Jan 23 13:50:11 <jcpham>	and on what timescale
Jan 23 13:51:03 <mircea_popescu>	i like to imagine they just process and that way they'll live forever.
Jan 23 13:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	tho you have a point, a bfl-bitpay tandem collapse is certainly conceivable.
Jan 23 13:51:53 <jcpham>	they have taken in a lot of coins
Jan 23 13:52:04 <jcpham>	i can't imagine any entity with more to dispose of
Jan 23 13:52:23 <Bugpowder_>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 23 13:52:24 <gribble>	17.17
Jan 23 13:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	i think i know a couple.
Jan 23 13:52:51 <jcpham>	well of course you might
Jan 23 13:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	haha Bugpowder_ wins the price oddity jackpot
Jan 23 13:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	hm so that post pays off, i have like 3 ppl wantign the job already
Jan 23 13:54:43 <Bugpowder_>	how much do i win?
Jan 23 13:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	~0.00
Jan 23 13:55:39 <Bugpowder_>	;;calc 0.00 * 17.17
Jan 23 13:55:39 <gribble>	0
Jan 23 13:55:42 <Bugpowder_>	:-(
Jan 23 13:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	small jackpot
Jan 23 13:56:24 <Bugpowder_>	GOOG
Jan 23 13:56:34 <Bugpowder_>	747.55
Jan 23 13:56:37 <Bugpowder_>	!
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Jan 23 14:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	dead cat jump :D\
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Jan 23 14:33:39 *	burnside_afk is now known as burnside
Jan 23 14:33:50 <burnside>	jurov, around?
Jan 23 14:34:00 <jurov>	yes
Jan 23 14:34:12 <burnside>	owe you an apology
Jan 23 14:34:21 <jurov>	O.O
Jan 23 14:34:43 <burnside>	didn't mean to come across like such a dick on your coinbr thread
Jan 23 14:35:08 <jurov>	it actually began elsewhere.. but okay, you're welcome
Jan 23 14:35:21 <burnside>	i'd just been attacked by mpoe-pr over security issues, and it came up that mpex if you lose your key you're f'd.
Jan 23 14:36:15 <burnside>	not so much lose actually, if someone else gets your key, you're f'd.
Jan 23 14:36:16 <EskimoBob_afk>	I guess I have to install gnucash :( and all the Gnome junk, that will pollute my system
Jan 23 14:37:04 <burnside>	I realized that for you to trade live, you have to keep that key on the server.
Jan 23 14:37:41 <burnside>	and then I realized that there was a brokerage doing just that.
Jan 23 14:38:38 <burnside>	anyway, long story short, combination frustration with mpoe-pr and worried about another big btc compromise, I asked questions publicly that I should have asked privately.
Jan 23 14:39:02 <jurov>	actually it was fine... until that name calling :D
Jan 23 14:39:09 <burnside>	I'm convinced now that you've taken every precaution you can, and will eventually likely be using coinbr.
Jan 23 14:39:21 <burnside>	yup, thus, the apology.
Jan 23 14:39:33 <jurov>	accepted ;)
Jan 23 14:40:06 <EskimoBob_afk>	mpoe-pr is a retard who works for that scumbag popescu. Ignore here. She gets paid to troll ya'll
Jan 23 14:40:30 <dub>	thanks for the valuable insight bob
Jan 23 14:40:36 <gigavps>	lol
Jan 23 14:40:48 *	gigavps loves EskimoBob'isms
Jan 23 14:40:57 <dub>	bob has bitch tits
Jan 23 14:41:01 <jurov>	eskimo,seems you do it for free instead, and poorly... i rather like her professional job
Jan 23 14:41:18 <jurov>	you should hire someone
Jan 23 14:43:04 <burnside>	back to my day job.  later all.
Jan 23 14:43:08 <EskimoBob_afk>	jurov: you are a funny little man :)
Jan 23 14:43:11 *	burnside is now known as burnside_afk
Jan 23 14:44:33 <jcpham>	what is old-school PR
Jan 23 14:46:32 <EskimoBob_afk>	I never really understood why jurov and dub suck up to that narcissistic fucktard mircea_popescu :)
Jan 23 14:46:41 <EskimoBob_afk>	it is a mystery O_O
Jan 23 14:47:19 <dub>	I think there is an awful lot that you do not understand
Jan 23 14:47:56 <dub>	your scope seems to be limited to smoking crack and making mud pies
Jan 23 14:48:16 <dub>	or art or whatever you call that
Jan 23 14:50:00 <jurov>	this is best old-school PR stunt ever: http://kccbigcountry.hubpages.com/hub/Crush--Texas-The-Train-Crash-of-1896
Jan 23 14:52:54 <jurov>	Some of the debris came down among the spectators, killing three and injuring several more. Crush was immediately fired from the Katy railroad. In light of a lack of negative publicity, however, he was rehired the next day.
Jan 23 14:53:02 <jurov>	^ wikipedia says
Jan 23 15:03:23 <Chilca_>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 23 15:03:24 <gribble>	17.16
Jan 23 15:04:44 <dub>	Now the biggest risks have gone so please expect the enjoying of both short-term and long-term profits of us in the next years. And also thanks for your patience.
Jan 23 15:05:06 *	dub expects the enjoying of profits
Jan 23 15:06:05 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Jan 23 15:06:07 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 217732 | Current Difficulty: 2968775.3320751 | Next Difficulty At Block: 219743 | Next Difficulty In: 2011 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 50 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2145071.19164676 | Estimated Percent Change: -27.745586927
Jan 23 15:06:40 <jurov>	there are people who abhor profits, and need to be told otherwise, you know
Jan 23 15:08:24 <dub>	my answer to that is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzlAvPZT2nA
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Jan 23 15:09:15 *	EskimoBob_afk yawns
Jan 23 15:09:33 <EskimoBob_afk>	dub, your jokes are so... how to put it
Jan 23 15:09:52 <EskimoBob_afk>	mmm... not funny
Jan 23 15:09:54 <EskimoBob_afk>	LOL
Jan 23 15:10:34 <dub>	lol indeed
Jan 23 15:10:46 <EskimoBob_afk>	so what is it you do for living?
Jan 23 15:11:23 <dub>	I shill for mpex derp
Jan 23 15:11:36 <EskimoBob_afk>	I mean, after you are done sucking mirceas virtual dick in this channel
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Jan 23 15:12:35 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 23 15:12:40 <EskimoBob_afk>	I hope you are not a comedian or a programmer
Jan 23 15:12:43 <topace>	oooooo no assbot
Jan 23 15:12:52 <kakobrekla>	ah right right
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Jan 23 15:13:09 <kakobrekla>	ill move it to another box i think
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Jan 23 15:13:39 <topace>	what happeend to it ?
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Jan 23 15:13:52 <kakobrekla>	i rebooted that vbox
Jan 23 15:13:56 <topace>	o
Jan 23 15:14:06 <kakobrekla>	no worries
Jan 23 15:14:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.0006106 = 0.0611 BTC [-]
Jan 23 15:14:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.575 = 2.875 BTC [+]
Jan 23 15:14:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.589 = 2.945 BTC [+]
Jan 23 15:14:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 42 @ 0.0089 = 0.3738 BTC [-]
Jan 23 15:15:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 62 @ 0.009 = 0.558 BTC [+]
Jan 23 15:15:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 8 @ 0.009 = 0.072 BTC [+]
Jan 23 15:15:49 <EskimoBob_afk>	huh, all the ugly gnome stuff is installed now :(
Jan 23 15:16:12 <gigavps>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136499.msg1473976#msg1473976
Jan 23 15:17:54 <dub>	the old someone got into my account excuse eh
Jan 23 15:19:05 <gigavps>	dub, haha
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Jan 23 15:21:41 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 23 15:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	what was all that bullshit with "old money" and "will deliver" and "your friend" etc
Jan 23 15:21:55 <EskimoBob_afk>	gigavps: hola! BFL thread turned to pile of garbage really fast. Any comments on what is going on with them?
Jan 23 15:25:08 <gigavps>	hey EskimoBob_afk
Jan 23 15:25:21 <gigavps>	pretty sure they are on track to deliver
Jan 23 15:25:37 <gigavps>	finally
Jan 23 15:27:42 <dub>	have they performed the order selection clusterfuckover process yet?
Jan 23 15:28:47 <gigavps>	no clue
Jan 23 15:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00060815 = 9.1223 BTC [-]
Jan 23 15:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	dub what do you figure they get sued for first, order selection or equity ?
Jan 23 15:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	(in case they actually deliver, i mean)
Jan 23 15:29:47 <dub>	good, I'll assume the lack of contact with return instructions doesn't (yet) mean my sub 100 order is worthless
Jan 23 15:30:42 <dub>	mircea_popescu: no clue
Jan 23 15:32:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00061064 = 6.4728 BTC [+]
Jan 23 15:32:43 <EskimoBob_afk>	gigavps: OK, I was expecting you know because you mentioned you have a good relationship with BFL. Thanx anyways
Jan 23 15:33:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00595587 = 4.1691 BTC [+]
Jan 23 15:33:33 <kakobrekla>	is it gonna be before march or no?
Jan 23 15:36:01 <gigavps>	i sure as hell hope so
Jan 23 15:36:21 <gigavps>	but knowing BFL, they'll probably have another delay
Jan 23 15:38:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00061064 = 4.6409 BTC [+]
Jan 23 15:39:06 *	kakobrekla puts more on no.
Jan 23 15:40:29 <dub>	my only hope is that someone shoots inaba in the face
Jan 23 15:41:19 <gigavps>	harsh
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Jan 23 15:46:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 896 @ 0.00060815 = 0.5449 BTC [-]
Jan 23 15:46:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11337 @ 0.00060757 = 6.888 BTC [-]
Jan 23 15:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol kakobrekla you got btc in the bet ?
Jan 23 15:47:57 <kakobrekla>	sure
Jan 23 15:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Jan 23 15:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps you hedging on http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ ?
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Jan 23 15:48:52 <kakobrekla>	since its my proposition, its the only right thing to do - bet
Jan 23 15:49:37 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu, i'm balls deep
Jan 23 15:50:04 <gigavps>	not sure how you hedge balls deep
Jan 23 15:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	i imagined you may be the 500 on the no
Jan 23 15:50:23 <gigavps>	haha
Jan 23 15:50:27 <gigavps>	nope
Jan 23 15:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e, 300
Jan 23 15:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	im curious how much of the yes are ppl who refunded / how much of no are ppl who stuck with their order
Jan 23 15:52:32 <mircea_popescu>	so hedging, as opposed to people just speculating with no skin in the game
Jan 23 15:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.551 = 6.061 BTC [-]
Jan 23 15:57:38 <thestringpuller>	using bitbet as insurance...
Jan 23 15:58:01 <thestringpuller>	hah, self organizing insurance.
Jan 23 15:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	should work.
Jan 23 15:59:20 <kakobrekla>	funny those morons on the forum still struggling to make the 20btc bfl bet after what a week
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Jan 23 16:01:20 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135914.msg1474123#msg1474123
Jan 23 16:01:21 <kakobrekla>	noted.
Jan 23 16:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Jan 23 16:03:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2130 @ 0.00595587 = 12.686 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 16:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 247 @ 0.00060715 = 0.15 BTC [-]
Jan 23 16:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6003 @ 0.00060835 = 3.6519 BTC [+]
Jan 23 16:23:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.34 = 1.7 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 16:29:14 <mircea_popescu>	um.
Jan 23 16:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	avalon claims they're in the red on first batch ?
Jan 23 16:29:27 <mircea_popescu>	holy.
Jan 23 16:29:38 <thestringpuller>	leaky budget
Jan 23 16:29:40 <thestringpuller>	its okay
Jan 23 16:30:11 <mircea_popescu>	it;s not. no asics in the history of bitcoin mining will be worth as much as that 1st batch
Jan 23 16:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	if they can't turn a profit then, they can never turn a profit.
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Jan 23 16:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00060835 = 5.7489 BTC [+]
Jan 23 16:36:02 <thestringpuller>	i was being sarcastic like you
Jan 23 16:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 170 @ 0.00595587 = 1.0125 BTC [+]
Jan 23 16:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00600715 = 8.41 BTC [+]
Jan 23 16:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8883 @ 0.00060835 = 5.404 BTC [+]
Jan 23 16:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9320 @ 0.00061064 = 5.6912 BTC [+]
Jan 23 16:40:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 94 @ 0.00611858 = 0.5751 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 16:45:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.009 = 0.027 BTC [+]
Jan 23 16:46:16 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: did you ever post what that image was?
Jan 23 16:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome which one ?
Jan 23 16:47:34 <markedathome>	the one that you were going to pay 0,1334 btc for (and which the vertical was time)
Jan 23 16:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	and speaking of which, let me point out that you can't be a dirty old man without having seen http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/frauengefangnis/
Jan 23 16:47:46 <markedathome>	i mean 0.1337
Jan 23 16:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome a, no. nobody guessed, so i guess i might let the secret out
Jan 23 16:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	trackbacks on my blog.
Jan 23 16:48:35 <markedathome>	so what was the big space gap in the middle?
Jan 23 16:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	i leaked the wikileaks db a while back
Jan 23 16:49:09 <Bugpowder>	Now over 200,000 bet in the last 26 hours on S.DICE
Jan 23 16:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	(then the next day they published it too)
Jan 23 16:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder o.o is that like 1/3 of december ?!
Jan 23 16:49:46 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 23 16:49:51 <Bugpowder>	its like 2/5ths
Jan 23 16:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	ffs.
Jan 23 16:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what the upper bound of this is.
Jan 23 16:50:11 <Bugpowder>	when the whale breaks
Jan 23 16:50:18 <Bugpowder>	or comes down
Jan 23 16:50:27 <Bugpowder>	off the yayo
Jan 23 16:51:06 <mircea_popescu>	 but i mean... 1mn a month ? 5 ? 20 ?!
Jan 23 16:51:09 <mircea_popescu>	over 20 ?
Jan 23 16:51:20 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 23 16:51:28 <Bugpowder>	there was organic growth of miniwhales
Jan 23 16:51:30 <Bugpowder>	this month
Jan 23 16:51:48 <Bugpowder>	in between the massive binge at the start of the month and now
Jan 23 16:51:56 <Bugpowder>	so that is good.
Jan 23 16:52:07 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Jan 23 16:52:17 <Bugpowder>	the question is what happens when this whale blows his whole wad
Jan 23 16:52:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 23 16:52:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.49501, Best ask: 17.49510, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 17.49501, 24 hour volume: 49777.38979188, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.49501, 24 hour vwap: 17.19659
Jan 23 16:52:31 <Bugpowder>	which I estimate currently to be 30,000 BTC in the addresses that have flashed
Jan 23 16:52:34 <mircea_popescu>	we see 19 ?
Jan 23 16:52:44 <Bugpowder>	hopefully by tomorrow :)
Jan 23 16:52:51 <mircea_popescu>	no i mean... when he blows his wad...
Jan 23 16:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	we see 19
Jan 23 16:52:59 <Bugpowder>	19 whats?
Jan 23 16:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	dollahs
Jan 23 16:53:08 <Bugpowder>	heh
Jan 23 16:53:11 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 23 16:53:22 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 19
Jan 23 16:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how much of the buy pressure is ppl wanting btc to sd
Jan 23 16:53:23 <gribble>	There are currently 20627.928 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 371592.589557 USD in total.
Jan 23 16:53:25 <Namworld>	Considering 1.9% loss average... you don't need too much to make a huge amount of bets
Jan 23 16:53:27 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 19.5
Jan 23 16:53:29 <gribble>	There are currently 23352.431 bitcoins offered at or under 19.5 USD, worth 424184.625256 USD in total.
Jan 23 16:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld yes but if you make large ones
Jan 23 16:53:37 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 20
Jan 23 16:53:39 <gribble>	There are currently 33143.873 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 618445.377545 USD in total.
Jan 23 16:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	variance can take a bite.
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Jan 23 16:54:00 <Bugpowder>	yeah, variance will take a bite
Jan 23 16:54:10 <Bugpowder>	you can't come back once you blow the wad
Jan 23 16:54:16 <Bugpowder>	unless you buy more
Jan 23 16:54:17 <Bugpowder>	oh man
Jan 23 16:54:27 <Bugpowder>	if the addresses go to zero
Jan 23 16:54:27 <jcpham>	when i was younger i had this real flashy uncle
Jan 23 16:54:40 <Bugpowder>	and then a new set start betting with the same pattern
Jan 23 16:54:43 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 23 16:54:43 <jcpham>	he was always on the hustle
Jan 23 16:54:52 <jcpham>	real estate, wahetver
Jan 23 16:55:01 <jcpham>	this christmas i whispered bitcoin in his ear
Jan 23 16:55:07 <jcpham>	and told him to trust me
Jan 23 16:55:12 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham good move.
Jan 23 16:55:27 <jcpham>	i think it's my uncle
Jan 23 16:55:32 <jcpham>	he needs a new toupe
Jan 23 16:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	is his name by any chance bob ?
Jan 23 16:56:00 <jcpham>	it might be
Jan 23 16:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.91 BTC [-]
Jan 23 16:56:14 <jcpham>	i'm not real close with family
Jan 23 16:57:17 <Bugpowder>	This address busted out.
Jan 23 16:57:18 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Di6ux3CQBNXCZLD76BsnYWDo6XnFGzQah
Jan 23 16:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00060567 = 13.8396 BTC [-]
Jan 23 16:57:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00060557 = 1.5139 BTC [-]
Jan 23 16:57:23 <Namworld>	For one whale for which variance takes a bit, another should win extra from variance, on average. So should even out.
Jan 23 16:57:50 <Namworld>	All will always tend to 1.9% loss per bet.
Jan 23 16:58:09 <Bugpowder>	That address that busted out, is actually at the top of the leaderboard
Jan 23 16:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder classic casino story.
Jan 23 16:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.0060583 = 12.7224 BTC [-]
Jan 23 16:58:58 <Namworld>	With 100k BTC, I could make 5 million in bets...
Jan 23 16:59:35 <Namworld>	Assuming I don't have good/bad streaks
Jan 23 17:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
Jan 23 17:04:38 <Bugpowder>	Oh yeah... I remember that guy
Jan 23 17:04:42 <Bugpowder>	wowo
Jan 23 17:04:49 <Bugpowder>	didn't realize he was up so much
Jan 23 17:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20667 @ 0.00061064 = 12.6201 BTC [+]
Jan 23 17:04:57 <Bugpowder>	I wonder if this is all one person, or 2-3 people
Jan 23 17:05:33 <Namworld>	what the heck... satoshidice?
Jan 23 17:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 23 17:06:03 <mircea_popescu>	it's the mpex public addy you sillies.
Jan 23 17:06:15 <Bugpowder>	Namworld check THIS out
Jan 23 17:06:16 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/tx/caaaeca897edf294267517475a545192687687f9778a80f885a5ed81f5056581
Jan 23 17:06:21 <Bugpowder>	he sent you 40BTC
Jan 23 17:06:31 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 23 17:06:47 <Bugpowder>	do you know who it is?
Jan 23 17:07:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 23 17:07:15 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 23 17:07:17 <Bugpowder>	oh god
Jan 23 17:07:18 <Namworld>	lots of withdrawal lately.
Jan 23 17:07:20 <Bugpowder>	hehehe
Jan 23 17:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Jan 23 17:07:32 <Namworld>	I guess people want to sell for USD before it pops back down
Jan 23 17:07:32 <Bugpowder>	No wonder I recognized that
Jan 23 17:07:56 <Namworld>	and then buy more BTC back
Jan 23 17:08:11 <Bugpowder>	dude I would be pouring money into MPEX to buy puts if I though the price was going to drop
Jan 23 17:08:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld yeah, i bet you buncha ppl are o wow, its 17, let's sell
Jan 23 17:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	then when it's 25 they go o wow, let's buy back!
Jan 23 17:08:21 <Bugpowder>	way cheaper
Jan 23 17:08:23 <mircea_popescu>	then it goes to 19 again
Jan 23 17:08:48 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 23 17:08:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.49850, Best ask: 17.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.00140, Last trade: 17.49850, 24 hour volume: 49824.23889575, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.49990, 24 hour vwap: 17.19784
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Jan 23 17:08:54 <Bugpowder>	yeahhh
Jan 23 17:08:56 <Bugpowder>	comeon
Jan 23 17:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder yup puts much more efficient way to benefit from dip, but... i doubt any dips soon
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Jan 23 17:09:29 <Bugpowder>	can the bulls break thru in time to make my 160s profitable
Jan 23 17:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, closes tomorrow huh
Jan 23 17:11:54 <Bugpowder>	rotten AAPL
Jan 23 17:12:00 <Bugpowder>	closes on FRIDAY
Jan 23 17:12:04 <Bugpowder>	not THURSDAY
Jan 23 17:12:11 <Bugpowder>	right?
Jan 23 17:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.01059014 = 10.5901 BTC [-]
Jan 23 17:12:40 <Bugpowder>	;;bc;24hrpc
Jan 23 17:12:40 <gribble>	Error: "bc;24hrpc" is not a valid command.
Jan 23 17:12:43 <Bugpowder>	ugh
Jan 23 17:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	well it's thursday here
Jan 23 17:13:01 <Bugpowder>	wow
Jan 23 17:13:07 <Bugpowder>	its like so far away
Jan 23 17:13:28 <Bugpowder>	NFLX
Jan 23 17:13:33 <Bugpowder>	whoa
Jan 23 17:13:43 <Bugpowder>	up 40%
Jan 23 17:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	how come ?
Jan 23 17:15:05 <mircea_popescu>	its not, just 100odd
Jan 23 17:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	was what, 90s last month
Jan 23 17:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	whoa fuck after hours. wtf ?
Jan 23 17:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	nflx posts surprise profit
Jan 23 17:16:26 <Bugpowder>	+13c vs. -13c expectation
Jan 23 17:16:41 <Bugpowder>	2.1m subscriber growth to 27m
Jan 23 17:16:45 <Bugpowder>	not bad
Jan 23 17:16:50 <Bugpowder>	for a quarter
Jan 23 17:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	dude, i wish to see the day when btc shares jump 34% over a .4% improvement of profit
Jan 23 17:18:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00061064 = 0.977 BTC [+]
Jan 23 17:19:09 <thestringpuller>	AAPL plummets
Jan 23 17:19:27 <thestringpuller>	its been in near free fall since october
Jan 23 17:20:14 <Bugpowder>	It was obvious short as soon as maps fucked up
Jan 23 17:20:34 <Bugpowder>	that error makes people switch out of autobuy mode
Jan 23 17:20:40 <Bugpowder>	and consider samsung or other phones
Jan 23 17:20:54 <pizzaman1337>	but now google maps is back
Jan 23 17:20:58 <Bugpowder>	Doog has a special edition of the SD charts up
Jan 23 17:20:58 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1474248#msg1474248
Jan 23 17:20:59 <thestringpuller>	what is the general borrowing rate these days for AAPL stock?
Jan 23 17:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	Final SD Profit:            41793.46029369 BTC (1.836%)
Jan 23 17:21:47 <mircea_popescu>	pretty heavy.
Jan 23 17:23:14 <Bugpowder>	thats cume
Jan 23 17:23:23 <Bugpowder>	485,000 BTC bet this month
Jan 23 17:23:47 <mod6>	yowza
Jan 23 17:24:05 <Bugpowder>	hopefully we will see some upwards movement in the stock price now
Jan 23 17:24:21 <Bugpowder>	that the pretty graphics are helping the slow bus riders
Jan 23 17:24:28 <Bugpowder>	short bus
Jan 23 17:25:06 <Bugpowder>	+8600 for the month
Jan 23 17:25:30 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 8600/.019
Jan 23 17:25:30 <gribble>	452631.578947
Jan 23 17:25:38 <Bugpowder>	slightly above EV
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Jan 23 17:34:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11878 @ 0.00061064 = 7.2532 BTC [+]
Jan 23 17:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8424 @ 0.00061405 = 5.1728 BTC [+]
Jan 23 17:34:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8008 @ 0.00061411 = 4.9178 BTC [+]
Jan 23 17:34:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 425 @ 0.36042575 = 153.1809 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 17:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.54 BTC [-]
Jan 23 17:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00609999 = 3.05 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 17:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.588 = 5.88 BTC [+]
Jan 23 17:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.989 = 1.978 BTC [+]
Jan 23 17:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5 BTC [+]
Jan 23 17:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.999 = 3.996 BTC [+]
Jan 23 17:50:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.589 = 12.369 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 18:06:37 <SpNg>	I was told the person running bit4x.com idles here. Are they around?
Jan 23 18:07:10 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: ^
Jan 23 18:07:23 <kakobrekla>	me.
Jan 23 18:07:26 <SpNg>	pizzaman1337: I saw that after you mentioned it ;-)
Jan 23 18:07:33 <kakobrekla>	hi SpNg, whats up
Jan 23 18:07:51 <SpNg>	kakobrekla: I found bit4x.com and it interesting to me
Jan 23 18:07:59 <SpNg>	I have been exploring the idea of trading forex in btc
Jan 23 18:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.589 = 5.301 BTC [+]
Jan 23 18:08:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.588 = 5.88 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:08:17 <SpNg>	II understand the base concept but a few things are confusing to me
Jan 23 18:08:27 <kakobrekla>	do you have any forex experience?
Jan 23 18:08:39 <SpNg>	pizzaman1337 was giving me some insight, but directed me here
Jan 23 18:09:03 <SpNg>	I have not traded forex yet, but I have read up on it, and I understand how the trade is made
Jan 23 18:09:18 <kakobrekla>	aha ok
Jan 23 18:09:32 <SpNg>	what I don't understand is how the account maintains it's value in BTC if we are trading say USD/GBP pairs
Jan 23 18:09:54 <SpNg>	my understanding is your platform does not trade BTC/XXX pairs
Jan 23 18:10:13 <kakobrekla>	yeah, no btc pair
Jan 23 18:11:05 <kakobrekla>	its simple, the size of open position you can make (in lots) is determined by your balance/margin
Jan 23 18:11:15 <kakobrekla>	margin depends on USD/EUR rate for internal reasons
Jan 23 18:11:22 <kakobrekla>	but that doesnt get in the way.
Jan 23 18:11:22 <SpNg>	so then my account balance is affected by the fluctuation of the price of BTC and the currency pair
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Jan 23 18:11:46 <kakobrekla>	your balance is denominated in BTC
Jan 23 18:11:52 <kakobrekla>	btc goes up your balance goes up
Jan 23 18:12:04 <SpNg>	but if BTC goes up relative to what?
Jan 23 18:12:06 <kakobrekla>	if you look at it
Jan 23 18:12:08 <SpNg>	USD?
Jan 23 18:12:09 <kakobrekla>	in eur/usd
Jan 23 18:12:12 <kakobrekla>	ofc.
Jan 23 18:12:13 <SpNg>	EUR?
Jan 23 18:12:14 <SpNg>	ok
Jan 23 18:12:34 <kakobrekla>	you put in 100 btc
Jan 23 18:12:42 <kakobrekla>	your balance will be 100 btc
Jan 23 18:12:51 <kakobrekla>	no matter of the BTC value
Jan 23 18:12:52 <kakobrekla>	on the market
Jan 23 18:13:21 <kakobrekla>	and it also will not affect your margin
Jan 23 18:13:29 <SpNg>	interesting
Jan 23 18:13:33 <kakobrekla>	usd/eur rate will do that.
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Jan 23 18:13:46 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 23 18:13:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.50003, Best ask: 17.50999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00996, Last trade: 17.50002, 24 hour volume: 50827.92681792, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.51900, 24 hour vwap: 17.20866
Jan 23 18:13:51 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 23 18:13:51 <SpNg>	and everything is handled through MetaTrader4
Jan 23 18:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5 BTC [+]
Jan 23 18:14:06 <kakobrekla>	the fluctuating price of btc is not problmatic until we hit ~100 usd per coin
Jan 23 18:14:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8233 @ 0.00061095 = 5.03 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:14:23 <kakobrekla>	then you will need 10k usd worth just to open an account
Jan 23 18:14:29 <kakobrekla>	which is kinda unacceptable
Jan 23 18:14:43 <kakobrekla>	so then we will switch to decibtc units instead of btc
Jan 23 18:14:52 <SpNg>	kakobrekla: haha, I see
Jan 23 18:15:11 <SpNg>	are you a ForEx trader, or do you just have the connections with the brokerage?
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Jan 23 18:16:01 <kakobrekla>	i was not a trader before but now im developing trading bots with a crew of traders
Jan 23 18:16:16 <SpNg>	The idea is interesting to me. It's great to find the guy behind the operation here as well.
Jan 23 18:16:22 <SpNg>	yeah I'm interested in doing the same
Jan 23 18:16:38 <SpNg>	I have a software dev shop, and we all love scripting
Jan 23 18:16:43 <SpNg>	MetaTrader4 is perfect
Jan 23 18:16:51 <kakobrekla>	i wouldnt think of melting my coins to fiat to use any other fiat forex broker anyway
Jan 23 18:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 12 @ 0.999 = 11.988 BTC [+]
Jan 23 18:17:03 <SpNg>	exactly my idea
Jan 23 18:17:30 <SpNg>	I like the that it's anonymous
Jan 23 18:17:56 <kakobrekla>	yeah this is completley unregulated here
Jan 23 18:17:58 <kakobrekla>	forex and bitcoin
Jan 23 18:18:10 <SpNg>	did you put this together?
Jan 23 18:18:27 <kakobrekla>	no, i just run the bitcoin side of the biz
Jan 23 18:18:30 <SpNg>	forex is already kind of unregulated, add bit coin on top and it's even more interesting
Jan 23 18:18:57 <SpNg>	so you are tied in with VenetFX?
Jan 23 18:19:02 <kakobrekla>	yes
Jan 23 18:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00060557 = 2.6342 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:19:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5156 @ 0.0006022 = 3.1049 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:19:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00060152 = 5.8347 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:19:29 <SpNg>	I noticed there are no offices in the US
Jan 23 18:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8894 @ 0.00059857 = 5.3237 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:19:37 <SpNg>	which is even more interesting to me
Jan 23 18:20:00 <kakobrekla>	us + forex = foo
Jan 23 18:20:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.0099 = 0.0297 BTC [+]
Jan 23 18:20:41 <SpNg>	So just so I understand this, you hold all deposits while trading
Jan 23 18:20:47 <kakobrekla>	yes
Jan 23 18:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.989 = 2.967 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:21:04 <SpNg>	Are withdrawals also 2 day turn arounds?
Jan 23 18:21:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 27 @ 0.0098 = 0.2646 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:21:10 <kakobrekla>	correct
Jan 23 18:21:21 <kakobrekla>	2 working days
Jan 23 18:21:42 <SpNg>	beyond that, forex trading is all 24/7
Jan 23 18:21:48 <kakobrekla>	24/5
Jan 23 18:22:11 <SpNg>	hmm, ok I thought 24/7
Jan 23 18:22:19 <SpNg>	but I believe you
Jan 23 18:22:26 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 23 18:22:37 <kakobrekla>	only buckets shops can do over weeked
Jan 23 18:22:54 <SpNg>	;-)
Jan 23 18:23:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8667 @ 0.00061095 = 5.2951 BTC [+]
Jan 23 18:23:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10533 @ 0.00061119 = 6.4377 BTC [+]
Jan 23 18:23:29 <SpNg>	alright, well I think I have a good idea of what is going on here.
Jan 23 18:23:42 <kakobrekla>	mkay
Jan 23 18:23:48 <kakobrekla>	lemme know if i can help
Jan 23 18:23:50 <SpNg>	How many people are trading this way?
Jan 23 18:23:59 <SpNg>	I appreciate you answering all my questions
Jan 23 18:24:03 <Bugpowder>	Forex hours are 17:15 - 17:00 (ET) Sunday-Friday
Jan 23 18:24:08 <SpNg>	it's very progressive
Jan 23 18:24:19 <Bugpowder>	typically
Jan 23 18:24:24 <kakobrekla>	um, between 10 20 bitcoin denominated account
Jan 23 18:24:25 <SpNg>	I want to write some scripts on MetaTrader4 then give it a run
Jan 23 18:24:25 <kakobrekla>	s
Jan 23 18:24:43 <kakobrekla>	10-20
Jan 23 18:24:59 <SpNg>	wow, so really early
Jan 23 18:25:05 <SpNg>	when did you open this?
Jan 23 18:25:12 <kakobrekla>	umm
Jan 23 18:25:16 <kakobrekla>	few months ago
Jan 23 18:25:37 <kakobrekla>	and most of the clients are new to bitcoin and not new to forex
Jan 23 18:25:46 <SpNg>	beautiful
Jan 23 18:25:52 <kakobrekla>	not a lot of forex capable people among bitcoiners
Jan 23 18:25:56 <kakobrekla>	:p
Jan 23 18:26:06 <SpNg>	;-)
Jan 23 18:26:08 <kakobrekla>	at least existing ones.
Jan 23 18:26:20 <SpNg>	I keep an eye on commodity prices
Jan 23 18:26:44 <kakobrekla>	commodities are trickier
Jan 23 18:26:45 <SpNg>	all fiat currency buying power degrades
Jan 23 18:26:52 <kakobrekla>	the min there is 0.1 lot, not 0.01
Jan 23 18:27:00 <kakobrekla>	ah
Jan 23 18:27:13 <kakobrekla>	you didnt mean on fx market
Jan 23 18:27:21 <SpNg>	I'm thinking about deriving my forex trades based on commodity fluctuation
Jan 23 18:27:36 <SpNg>	I have not modeled it out yet
Jan 23 18:27:52 <SpNg>	then again, I have not played forex yet
Jan 23 18:27:57 <kakobrekla>	well making robots is a tedious task
Jan 23 18:28:25 <SpNg>	I bet, do you script that MQL4 language or whatever it is called?
Jan 23 18:28:35 <kakobrekla>	i just spent 2 days rewriting kalman filter into DLL from MQL only to figure out its even slower that way.
Jan 23 18:28:56 <SpNg>	haha
Jan 23 18:29:01 <SpNg>	the life of a programmer
Jan 23 18:29:07 <SpNg>	happens to me every day
Jan 23 18:29:12 <kakobrekla>	:>
Jan 23 18:29:24 <SpNg>	new idea, engineer it, hit a bunch of hurdles along the way
Jan 23 18:29:30 <kakobrekla>	im runing about 10 cores 24/7 of backtests
Jan 23 18:29:39 <kakobrekla>	and still not enough power
Jan 23 18:29:51 <kakobrekla>	mql offers a cloud
Jan 23 18:29:56 <SpNg>	cloud computing?
Jan 23 18:30:01 <SpNg>	I was just saying...
Jan 23 18:30:08 <SpNg>	is mql command line?
Jan 23 18:30:22 <SpNg>	actually where is the data hub for everything?
Jan 23 18:30:23 <kakobrekla>	so you can backtest there in 2 hours what would take you a year on few cores at home
Jan 23 18:30:53 <SpNg>	do you have to run through MetaTrader?
Jan 23 18:30:55 <kakobrekla>	huh no command line
Jan 23 18:30:58 <kakobrekla>	yea
Jan 23 18:31:11 <SpNg>	so MetaTrader has the hold on the data pipe for forex?
Jan 23 18:31:19 <kakobrekla>	yep
Jan 23 18:31:33 <SpNg>	do they facilitate all the trades?
Jan 23 18:31:37 <SpNg>	their system?
Jan 23 18:31:41 <kakobrekla>	and no you wontb e able to tap into it
Jan 23 18:31:53 <SpNg>	wow
Jan 23 18:31:56 <SpNg>	what a position of power
Jan 23 18:32:13 <kakobrekla>	what do you mean if they facilitate the trades
Jan 23 18:32:31 <kakobrekla>	there are several forex markets
Jan 23 18:32:37 <kakobrekla>	our trades get executed on currenex
Jan 23 18:32:41 <SpNg>	well I guess the broker handles the trades
Jan 23 18:32:43 <kakobrekla>	which is one of them
Jan 23 18:33:07 <SpNg>	so current provides the data to MetaTrader servers?
Jan 23 18:33:24 <SpNg>	current = currenex
Jan 23 18:33:28 <SpNg>	damn auto correct
Jan 23 18:33:39 <kakobrekla>	one sec
Jan 23 18:34:18 <kakobrekla>	admd.com is the link provider for venetfx to currenex
Jan 23 18:34:27 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 23 18:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 263 @ 0.00592487 = 1.5582 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1137 @ 0.00585288 = 6.6547 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:35:50 <SpNg>	damn this hole keeps going deeper
Jan 23 18:37:25 <SpNg>	Wow, these guys provide the API to Currenex
Jan 23 18:38:03 <kakobrekla>	money speaks there.
Jan 23 18:38:04 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 23 18:38:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.57344, Best ask: 17.58550, Bid-ask spread: 0.01206, Last trade: 17.57344, 24 hour volume: 50740.32254080, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58550, 24 hour vwap: 17.21404
Jan 23 18:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 206 @ 0.00059857 = 0.1233 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00059746 = 2.0314 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18886 @ 0.00059684 = 11.2719 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:40:21 <SpNg>	MetaTrader Client -> VentFx -> ADMB -> Currenex
Jan 23 18:40:26 <SpNg>	I believe that is the flow
Jan 23 18:40:56 <kakobrekla>	well, you can take one out, since vfx servers are at admd
Jan 23 18:41:08 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 23 18:41:22 <SpNg>	ok nice
Jan 23 18:41:38 <SpNg>	I wonder what format the data pipe is for the API
Jan 23 18:41:55 <kakobrekla>	many have tried.
Jan 23 18:42:00 <SpNg>	haha
Jan 23 18:42:23 <SpNg>	like you said, money speaks there
Jan 23 18:43:22 <kakobrekla>	yeah, the next thing i wanna see is some indexes added along currencies and commodities
Jan 23 18:43:27 <kakobrekla>	perhaps in 2013
Jan 23 18:44:00 <SpNg>	what do you mean?
Jan 23 18:44:13 <kakobrekla>	like sp500 and stuffs
Jan 23 18:44:15 <SpNg>	you want ADM to integrate that?
Jan 23 18:44:24 <kakobrekla>	you can have that in mt4
Jan 23 18:44:24 <SpNg>	so you can trade it with MetaTrader?
Jan 23 18:44:27 <kakobrekla>	ya
Jan 23 18:44:40 <kakobrekla>	its just a matter of paying them to do so :)
Jan 23 18:44:45 <SpNg>	whats the hold up?
Jan 23 18:44:54 <SpNg>	seems obvious
Jan 23 18:44:54 <kakobrekla>	big bucks.
Jan 23 18:45:16 <SpNg>	so you are positioning yourself as the BTC trading platform
Jan 23 18:45:21 <SpNg>	which i think is very smart
Jan 23 18:45:33 <kakobrekla>	it is :)
Jan 23 18:45:39 <kakobrekla>	not many realize it
Jan 23 18:45:40 <SpNg>	the more added to MetaTrader the better for you
Jan 23 18:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 267 @ 0.00585288 = 1.5627 BTC [-]
Jan 23 18:46:26 <SpNg>	haha, I do. It's an infrastructure play. The more BTC grows, the more people will find you, the more pips you get to pick up
Jan 23 18:46:48 <SpNg>	it's a long term play, but I think it's smart
Jan 23 18:47:06 <SpNg>	I was actually surprised to find your operation
Jan 23 18:47:17 <kakobrekla>	why?
Jan 23 18:47:28 <SpNg>	I didn't think it would exist
Jan 23 18:47:38 <SpNg>	And your the only one I have found doing it
Jan 23 18:47:44 <SpNg>	maybe I have not dug too deep yet
Jan 23 18:48:11 <SpNg>	I came up with the idea a few weeks ago
Jan 23 18:48:22 <kakobrekla>	well there this https://1broker.com/
Jan 23 18:48:26 <kakobrekla>	theres*
Jan 23 18:48:33 <kakobrekla>	but dunno its a bucket shop
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Jan 23 18:49:01 <kakobrekla>	its more for kids
Jan 23 18:49:29 <SpNg>	what do you mean by "bucket shop"
Jan 23 18:49:41 <kakobrekla>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_shop
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Jan 23 18:49:53 <kakobrekla>	sry
Jan 23 18:49:53 <kakobrekla>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_shop_(stock_market)
Jan 23 18:50:17 <SpNg>	I found it
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Jan 23 18:50:24 <SpNg>	and I understand
Jan 23 18:50:38 <SpNg>	is that really your competition right now?
Jan 23 18:50:59 <SpNg>	and they provide a web interface?
Jan 23 18:51:09 <kakobrekla>	ya well its a website that supposedley does some leveraged trading
Jan 23 18:51:11 <SpNg>	instead of MT4
Jan 23 18:51:29 <kakobrekla>	yeah they have web interface only
Jan 23 18:51:36 <kakobrekla>	maybe apis dunno
Jan 23 18:52:02 <kakobrekla>	doesnt seem so from the site
Jan 23 18:52:13 <SpNg>	yeah I don't see any APIs
Jan 23 18:52:25 <kakobrekla>	not really a competition eh
Jan 23 18:52:32 <SpNg>	but again super early stage
Jan 23 18:52:55 <kakobrekla>	superhackable perhaps too
Jan 23 18:53:26 <SpNg>	opportunity
Jan 23 18:53:30 <SpNg>	;-)
Jan 23 18:54:26 <SpNg>	Alright I got to jet, but I really appreciate the info. I'm always on free node so I will stop by and pick your brain again soon. I'm going to test your system out as well.
Jan 23 18:54:40 <SpNg>	Thanks for all your time
Jan 23 18:54:46 <kakobrekla>	sure, feel free to stay around
Jan 23 18:55:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00061119 = 10.8792 BTC [+]
Jan 23 18:55:19 <SpNg>	I will keep the idle idle going ;-)
Jan 23 18:55:26 <kakobrekla>	k :)
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Jan 23 19:01:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3700 @ 0.00573983 = 21.2374 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 19:07:01 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 23 19:07:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.51501, Best ask: 17.55990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04489, Last trade: 17.51501, 24 hour volume: 49439.89055423, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.58550, 24 hour vwap: 17.21769
Jan 23 19:07:27 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Jan 23 19:07:28 <gribble>	1 BTC = 17.77778 U.S. dollars = 13.3366692 Euros
Jan 23 19:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11314 @ 0.00059753 = 6.7605 BTC [-]
Jan 23 19:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5886 @ 0.00059684 = 3.513 BTC [-]
Jan 23 19:08:12 <jurov>	where did it get that 17.7777 from?
Jan 23 19:08:46 <Namworld>	https://mtgox.com/
Jan 23 19:08:54 <Namworld>	From MtGox current high...
Jan 23 19:08:59 <Namworld>	We're almost at 18
Jan 23 19:09:13 <jurov>	ah, so ;;ticker is behind
Jan 23 19:10:03 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 23 19:10:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.58496, Best ask: 17.65097, Bid-ask spread: 0.06601, Last trade: 17.65097, 24 hour volume: 55218.74599850, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.77778, 24 hour vwap: 17.26796
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Jan 23 19:11:55 <Namworld>	not anymore
Jan 23 19:12:19 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 23 19:12:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.65097, Best ask: 17.77000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11903, Last trade: 17.65097, 24 hour volume: 55154.54941101, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.79989, 24 hour vwap: 17.27012
Jan 23 19:12:26 <jurov>	not anymore :D
Jan 23 19:12:45 <mod6>	lol $AAPL is down to 461.90 in after hours
Jan 23 19:12:55 <iz>	haha
Jan 23 19:14:08 <Namworld>	S.DICE is still cheap... hmm
Jan 23 19:14:26 *	da2ce7_d is now known as da2ce7
Jan 23 19:14:37 <jurov>	;;seen smickles
Jan 23 19:14:37 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 8 hours, 11 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <smickles> what was the final precursor last time? a bunch of puts bought, calls sold?
Jan 23 19:14:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.325 BTC [-]
Jan 23 19:17:19 <Namworld>	Well anyone to lend me some BTC once again?
Jan 23 19:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1404 @ 0.00059696 = 0.8381 BTC [+]
Jan 23 19:19:30 <Namworld>	=P
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Jan 23 19:38:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1724 @ 0.0056971 = 9.8218 BTC [-]
Jan 23 19:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00060489 = 4.2342 BTC [+]
Jan 23 19:39:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.587 = 4.109 BTC [-]
Jan 23 19:39:14 <Namworld>	Some S.DICE on sale at 0.0056971
Jan 23 19:40:14 <jurov>	nah i want 0.0062
Jan 23 19:40:45 <Namworld>	No I mean I've put some on sale at that price...
Jan 23 19:41:07 <Namworld>	Unless you mean you only want to buy it for more...
Jan 23 19:41:30 <jurov>	heh, no i'm selling too
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Jan 23 19:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.0056971 = 1.4243 BTC [-]
Jan 23 19:42:20 <Namworld>	What I thought
Jan 23 19:48:28 <kakobrekla>	o, o
Jan 23 19:48:29 <kakobrekla>	http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/k9l5-l-3c59.jpg
Jan 23 19:48:42 <kakobrekla>	now they put empty box in another empty box so its not empty anymore
Jan 23 19:48:46 <kakobrekla>	and take a pic of that!
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Jan 23 19:50:57 <Namworld>	argh, I need BTC right away...
Jan 23 19:51:22 <kakobrekla>	offer a better rate?
Jan 23 19:51:29 <Namworld>	?
Jan 23 19:51:57 <kakobrekla>	arent you looking for that slim interest loans?
Jan 23 19:52:25 <Namworld>	I can up it a bit...
Jan 23 19:52:37 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: what is the cheapest VPS package you have?
Jan 23 19:52:44 <Namworld>	1% for 2 weeks instead of per month. =P
Jan 23 19:52:51 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 23 19:52:59 <thestringpuller>	1%?
Jan 23 19:53:00 <thestringpuller>	what
Jan 23 19:53:04 <thestringpuller>	oh
Jan 23 19:53:07 <thestringpuller>	not @ me
Jan 23 19:53:08 *	gribble (~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Jan 23 19:53:13 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 23 19:53:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.35 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Jan 23 19:53:41 <Namworld>	OpenVZ 1 at $5 per month
Jan 23 19:53:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.86995, Best ask: 17.86996, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 17.86996, 24 hour volume: 57613.18402004, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.95000, 24 hour vwap: 17.30092
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Jan 23 19:54:19 <Namworld>	256MB ram, 1 CPU core, 10GB disk space, 100GB transfer
Jan 23 19:54:25 <Namworld>	paid quarterly
Jan 23 19:55:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 14 @ 0.54 = 7.56 BTC [+]
Jan 23 20:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00060342 = 6.6678 BTC [-]
Jan 23 20:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00060129 = 4.1188 BTC [-]
Jan 23 20:00:54 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: can I get it to be like
Jan 23 20:00:57 <thestringpuller>	what was it
Jan 23 20:00:59 <thestringpuller>	Debian
Jan 23 20:01:02 <thestringpuller>	DebianOS
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Jan 23 20:02:54 <Namworld>	Yeah
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Jan 23 20:15:11 <thestringpuller>	;;seen last mircea_popescu
Jan 23 20:15:11 <gribble>	(seen last [<channel>]) -- Returns the last thing said in <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
Jan 23 20:15:17 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Jan 23 20:15:17 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 53 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> pretty heavy.
Jan 23 20:15:31 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 23 20:15:31 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 9 hours, 12 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <smickles> what was the final precursor last time? a bunch of puts bought, calls sold?
Jan 23 20:18:39 <Chilca>	;;senn Chilca
Jan 23 20:18:40 <gribble>	Error: "senn" is not a valid command.
Jan 23 20:18:48 <Chilca>	;;seen Chilca
Jan 23 20:18:48 <gribble>	Chilca was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 seconds ago: <Chilca> ;;senn Chilca
Jan 23 20:19:39 <Chilca>	;;seen lautaro
Jan 23 20:19:39 <gribble>	I have not seen lautaro.
Jan 23 20:20:25 <lautaro>	Hi Chilca
Jan 23 20:21:00 <Chilca>	Hi lautaro, just testing some commands on the chat.
Jan 23 20:21:48 <Chilca>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 23 20:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051312 / 0.00572018 / 0.00614098 (96543 shares, 552.24 BTC), 7D: 0.00454708 / 0.00537883 / 0.00614098 (409859 shares, 2,204.56 BTC), 30D: 0.00343244 / 0.00418204 / 0.00614098 (9649044 shares, 40,352.72 BTC)
Jan 23 20:22:19 <Chilca>	!ticker
Jan 23 20:22:20 <assbot>	I thought I told you not to touch me.
Jan 23 20:22:27 <Chilca>	!ticker btc
Jan 23 20:22:28 <assbot>	Some are born to endless night.
Jan 23 20:22:46 <Chilca>	;;ticker
Jan 23 20:22:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.92002, Best ask: 17.92837, Bid-ask spread: 0.00835, Last trade: 17.92002, 24 hour volume: 57244.63518271, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.96000, 24 hour vwap: 17.30992
Jan 23 20:24:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00060129 = 0.481 BTC [-]
Jan 23 20:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00060097 = 4.8979 BTC [-]
Jan 23 20:24:46 <thestringpuller>	;;seen lautaro
Jan 23 20:24:46 <gribble>	lautaro was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 minutes and 21 seconds ago: <lautaro> Hi Chilca
Jan 23 20:24:54 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating lautaro
Jan 23 20:24:55 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Jan 23 20:24:59 <thestringpuller>	heh
Jan 23 20:25:14 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating Chilca
Jan 23 20:25:14 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Jan 23 20:25:31 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Jan 23 20:25:32 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Jan 23 20:25:58 <Chilca>	thestringpuller: why am i not authenticated ?
Jan 23 20:26:15 <Chilca>	;;ident
Jan 23 20:26:15 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Jan 23 20:28:49 <thestringpuller>	because gribble goes offline sometimes
Jan 23 20:29:35 <Chilca>	thestringpuller: do you know what is the rating ?
Jan 23 20:29:50 <thestringpuller>	no?
Jan 23 20:30:00 <Chilca>	thestringpuller: are you the person who implemented gribble commands?
Jan 23 20:30:31 <Chilca>	;;help
Jan 23 20:30:31 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Jan 23 20:31:52 <kakobrekla>	gribble is for bitcoin rates and WOT stuff
Jan 23 20:31:58 <kakobrekla>	assbot is for assets
Jan 23 20:32:17 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Jan 23 20:32:18 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 217770 | Current Difficulty: 2968775.3320751 | Next Difficulty At Block: 219743 | Next Difficulty In: 1973 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 7 hours, 30 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3129886.93229790 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.42687075314
Jan 23 20:32:22 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Jan 23 20:32:23 <gribble>	1 BTC = 17.94000 U.S. dollars = 13.457355 Euros
Jan 23 20:32:26 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,calc 1+1
Jan 23 20:32:26 <gribble>	use the 'gentime' command instead
Jan 23 20:32:35 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 1+1
Jan 23 20:32:35 <gribble>	2
Jan 23 20:33:16 <Chilca>	thanks kakobrekla
Jan 23 20:33:56 <kakobrekla>	sure
Jan 23 20:34:04 <kakobrekla>	;;guide
Jan 23 20:34:05 <gribble>	Error: "guide" is not a valid command.
Jan 23 20:34:08 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Jan 23 20:34:11 <kakobrekla>	;;b,cguide
Jan 23 20:34:11 <gribble>	Error: "b,cguide" is not a valid command.
Jan 23 20:34:14 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,guide
Jan 23 20:34:15 <gribble>	Error: "bc,guide" is not a valid command.
Jan 23 20:34:48 <kakobrekla>	i thought there was a command to get you know the command list
Jan 23 20:35:08 <kakobrekla>	Chilca https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Gribble
Jan 23 20:35:19 <Chilca>	kakobrekla: nice!
Jan 23 20:35:47 <assbot>	 kakobrekla is the best!
Jan 23 20:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00060097 = 1.262 BTC [-]
Jan 23 20:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00060028 = 6.7231 BTC [-]
Jan 23 20:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6553 @ 0.00059696 = 3.9119 BTC [-]
Jan 23 20:36:32 <Chilca>	I see assbot
Jan 23 20:36:47 <Chilca>	;;hextarget
Jan 23 20:36:50 <gribble>	00000000000005A6B10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Jan 23 20:37:21 <Chilca>	;;avgprc
Jan 23 20:37:21 <gribble>	(avgprc <currency> <timeframe>) -- Returns volume-weighted average price data from MtGox. <currency> is a three-letter currency code, <timeframe> is the time window for the average, and can be '24h', '7d', or '30d'.
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Jan 23 20:49:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00059696 = 2.9848 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 20:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00059704 = 3.1046 BTC [+]
Jan 23 20:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00539215 = 6.4706 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 20:58:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3194 @ 0.00059696 = 1.9067 BTC [-]
Jan 23 20:58:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25406 @ 0.00059684 = 15.1633 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 21:02:09 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 23 21:02:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.82552, Best ask: 17.89293, Bid-ask spread: 0.06741, Last trade: 17.82552, 24 hour volume: 58716.97298366, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.96000, 24 hour vwap: 17.33180
Jan 23 21:02:58 *	assbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
Jan 23 21:03:11 <thestringpuller>	assbot don't leave us
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Jan 23 21:05:11 <assbot>	 i wont.
Jan 23 21:11:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00059704 = 5.9107 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00059704 = 3.4628 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:19:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00537352 = 7.5229 BTC [-]
Jan 23 21:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00536136 = 4.021 BTC [-]
Jan 23 21:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00059684 = 3.1633 BTC [-]
Jan 23 21:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2672 @ 0.00059684 = 1.5948 BTC [-]
Jan 23 21:29:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00059704 = 11.1646 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00060489 = 5.323 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:30:24 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: you still around?
Jan 23 21:33:42 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: do you have lots of historical data for mpex?
Jan 23 21:34:07 <kakobrekla>	i dont save it
Jan 23 21:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1163 @ 0.00539215 = 6.2711 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:34:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1689 @ 0.0054045 = 9.1282 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 21:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8880 @ 0.00059684 = 5.2999 BTC [-]
Jan 23 21:35:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3320 @ 0.00059639 = 1.98 BTC [-]
Jan 23 21:36:04 <thestringpuller>	how would i get it to make super historical charts
Jan 23 21:36:15 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu has a monopoly on that data it seems...
Jan 23 21:37:25 <Bugpowder>	The time to hesitate is thru
Jan 23 21:37:40 <kakobrekla>	jurov has the most data i think
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Jan 23 21:37:50 <kakobrekla>	and twitter
Jan 23 21:38:00 <kakobrekla>	dunno how often they delete
Jan 23 21:38:32 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder dont jump out the window
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Jan 23 21:42:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.325 = 1.3 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 21:52:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00547087 = 2.7354 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 808 @ 0.00547087 = 4.4205 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00556709 = 4.732 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16777 @ 0.0056971 = 95.5802 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1053 @ 0.00572443 = 6.0278 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 512 @ 0.00575 = 2.944 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3319 @ 0.00060489 = 2.0076 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:54:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2467 @ 0.00061119 = 1.5078 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:54:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3442 @ 0.00061411 = 2.1138 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:54:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10949 @ 0.0006156 = 6.7402 BTC [+]
Jan 23 21:54:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1773 @ 0.00061716 = 1.0942 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 22:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9593 @ 0.00061716 = 5.9204 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:01:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00061777 = 3.2124 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00061825 = 3.0913 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4507 @ 0.00061826 = 2.7865 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:03:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10343 @ 0.00061826 = 6.3947 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:03:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4770 @ 0.00061874 = 2.9514 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:03:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9899 @ 0.00061923 = 6.1298 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18769 @ 0.00061923 = 11.6223 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 22:09:16 <Supa>	sup bitches?
Jan 23 22:09:50 *	assbot sets ban on *!*@@24.69.202.62
Jan 23 22:09:50 *	assbot has kicked Supa from #bitcoin-assets (Bye.)
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Jan 23 22:10:53 *	bonks is now known as bonks`
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Jan 23 22:13:13 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 23 22:13:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.94100, Best ask: 17.94900, Bid-ask spread: 0.00800, Last trade: 17.94900, 24 hour volume: 57128.15075739, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.96000, 24 hour vwap: 17.34566
Jan 23 22:13:42 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker 0.07 * 18
Jan 23 22:13:42 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Jan 23 22:14:07 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (18.50 - 18) / 18.50
Jan 23 22:14:08 <gribble>	0.027027027027
Jan 23 22:15:08 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 23 22:15:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.94100, Best ask: 17.94899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00799, Last trade: 17.94900, 24 hour volume: 57091.58860609, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.96000, 24 hour vwap: 17.34570
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Jan 23 22:17:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:18:33 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 23 22:18:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.94102, Best ask: 17.94900, Bid-ask spread: 0.00798, Last trade: 17.94900, 24 hour volume: 57102.88509735, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 17.96000, 24 hour vwap: 17.34609
Jan 23 22:19:41 <Chilca>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 23 22:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051312 / 0.00571768 / 0.00614098 (118277 shares, 676.27 BTC), 7D: 0.00454708 / 0.00539292 / 0.00614098 (434460 shares, 2,343.01 BTC), 30D: 0.00343244 / 0.00418598 / 0.00614098 (9675746 shares, 40,502.58 BTC)
Jan 23 22:21:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:22:09 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C150T
Jan 23 22:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.05275158 / 0.06109573 / 0.07778404 (3 shares, 0.18 BTC), 30D: 0.05275158 / 0.10771132 / 0.17406879 (26 shares, 2.80 BTC)
Jan 23 22:22:52 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (18.50 - 15) / 18.50
Jan 23 22:22:52 <gribble>	0.189189189189
Jan 23 22:26:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 22:29:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00061722 = 7.4066 BTC [-]
Jan 23 22:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2832 @ 0.00061923 = 1.7537 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00061954 = 2.8499 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:29:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10575 @ 0.00062033 = 6.56 BTC [+]
Jan 23 22:30:18 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 23 22:30:19 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 11 hours, 27 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <smickles> what was the final precursor last time? a bunch of puts bought, calls sold?
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Jan 23 22:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00061072 = 8.5501 BTC [-]
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Jan 23 22:48:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1000 @ 0.10475478 = 104.7548 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 22:51:58 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 23 22:51:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.08120, Best ask: 18.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11879, Last trade: 18.19999, 24 hour volume: 60211.96399242, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 18.25000, 24 hour vwap: 17.41279
Jan 23 22:52:09 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 23 22:52:10 <gribble>	17.36
Jan 23 23:00:19 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 23 23:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051312 / 0.00571768 / 0.00614098 (118277 shares, 676.27 BTC), 7D: 0.00454708 / 0.00539292 / 0.00614098 (434460 shares, 2,343.01 BTC), 30D: 0.00343244 / 0.00418598 / 0.00614098 (9675746 shares, 40,502.58 BTC)
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Jan 23 23:02:42 <Bugpowder>	this is fucking great
Jan 23 23:02:58 <Bugpowder>	O.BTCUSD.C160T x 2`000
Jan 23 23:03:01 <dub>	this is fucking terrible
Jan 23 23:03:24 <dub>	we need $2 bitcoins
Jan 23 23:03:27 <Bugpowder>	you haven't covered yet?
Jan 23 23:03:52 <Bugpowder>	we need the 24hprc to catch da fuk up
Jan 23 23:04:03 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 23 23:04:04 <gribble>	17.37
Jan 23 23:04:06 <Bugpowder>	sigh
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Jan 23 23:04:57 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 19.50
Jan 23 23:04:59 <gribble>	There are currently 8278.3636 bitcoins offered at or under 19.5 USD, worth 156353.934923 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:05:03 <Bugpowder>	JUICY
Jan 23 23:05:08 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 20
Jan 23 23:05:10 <gribble>	There are currently 20849.305 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 406063.939756 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:05:14 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 30
Jan 23 23:05:15 <gribble>	There are currently 36514.569 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 810655.375587 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:05:26 <Bugpowder>	;;bids20
Jan 23 23:05:27 <gribble>	Error: "bids20" is not a valid command.
Jan 23 23:05:30 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 20
Jan 23 23:05:31 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 20.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
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Jan 23 23:05:36 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Jan 23 23:05:37 <gribble>	There are currently 35337183 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 2768829.91434 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:06:05 <dub>	$0 would be nice
Jan 23 23:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9125 @ 0.00062033 = 5.6605 BTC [+]
Jan 23 23:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00062048 = 11.2927 BTC [+]
Jan 23 23:10:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27889 @ 0.00062063 = 17.3088 BTC [+]
Jan 23 23:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3186 @ 0.00062104 = 1.9786 BTC [+]
Jan 23 23:12:13 <Bugpowder>	MPOE bond might be butthurt tomorrow
Jan 23 23:12:35 <Bugpowder>	I wonder what the contract balance is
Jan 23 23:12:37 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
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Jan 23 23:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 900 @ 0.05799439 = 52.195 BTC [+]
Jan 23 23:17:10 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 23 23:17:16 <Bugpowder>	butt hurt
Jan 23 23:18:07 <Namworld>	Cheap calls everywhere for BTCUSD
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Jan 23 23:19:41 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 23 23:19:54 <Bugpowder>	24hprc is lagging alot
Jan 23 23:19:58 <Bugpowder>	needs to catch up
Jan 23 23:20:05 <Bugpowder>	by 5pm EST tomorrow
Jan 23 23:20:12 <Bugpowder>	for the calls to be cheep
Jan 23 23:21:06 <Namworld>	Yeah
Jan 23 23:21:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2976 @ 0.00061372 = 1.8264 BTC [-]
Jan 23 23:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14924 @ 0.00061072 = 9.1144 BTC [-]
Jan 23 23:22:03 <Bugpowder>	MTGOX just hit 1,000,000 BTC on the 30 day
Jan 23 23:23:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 934 @ 0.05830753 = 54.4592 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 23:23:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00061072 = 27.4824 BTC [-]
Jan 23 23:23:40 <Namworld>	Aye, well seeing the charts, good chance average price will go over 18 USD/BTC
Jan 23 23:24:07 <Namworld>	Still low amount of asks
Jan 23 23:26:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7276 @ 0.00061072 = 4.4436 BTC [-]
Jan 23 23:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.0006058 = 4.6041 BTC [-]
Jan 23 23:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2955 @ 0.00059943 = 1.7713 BTC [-]
Jan 23 23:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 400 @ 0.10763467 = 43.0539 BTC [+]
Jan 23 23:27:34 <Namworld>	Well looks like mircea should drop some BTC on the market and crash it now...
Jan 23 23:27:56 <Bugpowder>	insider trading indeed
Jan 23 23:28:15 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 18
Jan 23 23:28:17 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 18.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:28:25 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 18
Jan 23 23:28:27 <gribble>	There are currently 3644.5857 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 65758.3664651 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:28:32 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 17
Jan 23 23:28:34 <gribble>	There are currently 20244.093 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 353575.844369 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:28:57 <Namworld>	Decent.
Jan 23 23:29:02 <Namworld>	;;asks 19
Jan 23 23:29:04 <gribble>	There are currently 9618.6919 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 178154.601862 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:29:10 <Namworld>	;;asks 30
Jan 23 23:29:12 <gribble>	There are currently 40431.93 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 882996.659952 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:29:15 <Namworld>	...
Jan 23 23:29:19 <Namworld>	No one selling
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Jan 23 23:35:51 <Namworld>	;;asks 40
Jan 23 23:35:53 <gribble>	There are currently 49583.358 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 1210557.85121 USD in total.
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Jan 23 23:36:21 <Namworld>	Sounds like it's time o beat June 2011 record... it's just a few thousand BTCs away.
Jan 23 23:36:24 <Bugpowder>	Heyyo
Jan 23 23:36:32 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 23 23:36:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.15101, Best ask: 18.22999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07898, Last trade: 18.22999, 24 hour volume: 60278.80134135, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 18.29413, 24 hour vwap: 17.43627
Jan 23 23:36:59 <Bugpowder>	Also S.DICE can't stop
Jan 23 23:37:06 <Bugpowder>	up 12500
Jan 23 23:37:19 <jcpham>	insanity
Jan 23 23:37:52 <Namworld>	It seems so
Jan 23 23:38:17 <Bugpowder>	12.28 wall is half down now
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Jan 23 23:38:34 <Bugpowder>	let's send clark moody another btctip
Jan 23 23:39:38 <Namworld>	lol... the wall gets eaten like nothing
Jan 23 23:39:48 <Namworld>	;;asks 40
Jan 23 23:39:49 <gribble>	There are currently 47109.215 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 1164362.98611 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:40:06 <Namworld>	Looking good, looking good
Jan 23 23:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19876 @ 0.0006117 = 12.1581 BTC [+]
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Jan 23 23:40:57 <Namworld>	mircea, crash that market
Jan 23 23:41:22 <Namworld>	or MPOE might have a poor month
Jan 23 23:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 23 23:42:01 <Namworld>	;;asks 40
Jan 23 23:42:03 <gribble>	There are currently 47109.215 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 1164362.98611 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 23 23:42:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.15507, Best ask: 18.29412, Bid-ask spread: 0.13905, Last trade: 18.28501, 24 hour volume: 61945.37777144, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 18.29413, 24 hour vwap: 17.46963
Jan 23 23:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	whoa 18
Jan 23 23:42:15 <jcpham>	and away
Jan 23 23:42:18 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 18
Jan 23 23:42:20 <gribble>	There are currently 3398.7406 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 61271.7364514 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:42:20 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Jan 23 23:42:23 <jcpham>	we're off to the races
Jan 23 23:42:24 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 19
Jan 23 23:42:26 <gribble>	There are currently 5220.8083 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 97652.0922263 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	bejeysus
Jan 23 23:42:34 <Namworld>	4k BTC just got eaten at 18.28
Jan 23 23:42:40 <jcpham>	sustained 20 dollar weekend
Jan 23 23:42:42 <Bugpowder>	2.5k got eaten
Jan 23 23:42:43 <jcpham>	plus
Jan 23 23:42:47 <Bugpowder>	2k disappeared
Jan 23 23:42:51 <Namworld>	ah
Jan 23 23:42:56 <Namworld>	Either way...
Jan 23 23:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	yup, 20 looks like it.
Jan 23 23:43:31 <Namworld>	Seems like alot of activity on SD aaannnd lots of BTC being bought.
Jan 23 23:43:41 <Namworld>	At this rate SD will own 90% of all bitcoins
Jan 23 23:43:46 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 23 23:43:47 <Bugpowder>	nah
Jan 23 23:43:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 23 23:43:58 <Bugpowder>	whales are not down THAT much
Jan 23 23:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	no see, the beaurty of it ? they distribute it back out
Jan 23 23:44:07 <Namworld>	It's an hyperbole but yeah
Jan 23 23:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	which is the other half of the mpex advantage.
Jan 23 23:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	on one hand, bettor knows sd can raise *any* sum to pay out.
Jan 23 23:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand, btc it makes as profit is not retained but pumped back out, so it never chokes the market
Jan 23 23:44:36 <Bugpowder>	SO thin
Jan 23 23:44:45 <Bugpowder>	;;ask 18.9
Jan 23 23:44:45 <gribble>	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
Jan 23 23:44:48 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 18.9
Jan 23 23:44:48 <Namworld>	;;asks 40
Jan 23 23:44:50 <gribble>	There are currently 3361.8272 bitcoins offered at or under 18.9 USD, worth 62355.6748158 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:44:52 <gribble>	There are currently 45338.516 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 1131983.60822 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:44:53 <jcpham>	wired uk re-ran the forbes article
Jan 23 23:44:58 <jcpham>	basically
Jan 23 23:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham coolness.
Jan 23 23:45:05 <jcpham>	today that is
Jan 23 23:45:11 <Namworld>	I'm watching the 40 USD/BTC mark
Jan 23 23:45:12 <Bugpowder>	asks is out of sync with clarkmoody
Jan 23 23:45:21 <mircea_popescu>	well, time to add more options i guess.
Jan 23 23:45:22 <Bugpowder>	and mtgoxlive
Jan 23 23:45:28 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 23 23:45:37 <Bugpowder>	I want some C300Ns
Jan 23 23:45:42 <Namworld>	beat the 33 USD/BTC record
Jan 23 23:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i was thinking move to 5-35
Jan 23 23:45:59 <Namworld>	oh yeah... you'll need to open more option choices, mircea
Jan 23 23:46:01 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 23 23:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	cause what's the point of like, c04 ?
Jan 23 23:46:09 <jcpham>	http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-01/23/bitcoin
Jan 23 23:46:52 <jcpham>	well i guess they got their info from ars
Jan 23 23:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00059943 = 3.8963 BTC [-]
Jan 23 23:47:02 <jcpham>	bu it reads like the forbes article if you ask me
Jan 23 23:47:19 <jcpham>	they all regurgitate the same info
Jan 23 23:49:13 <jcpham>	the article presses the physical casinos
Jan 23 23:49:17 <jcpham>	in any case
Jan 23 23:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1045 @ 0.00059943 = 0.6264 BTC [-]
Jan 23 23:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5633 @ 0.00059897 = 3.374 BTC [-]
Jan 23 23:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00558478 = 5.5848 BTC [-]
Jan 23 23:52:42 <Namworld>	;;asks 40
Jan 23 23:52:44 <gribble>	There are currently 44530.428 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 1117547.30645 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:52:58 <Namworld>	keeps going down a thousand or 2 every few minutes
Jan 23 23:53:06 <Namworld>	I'd like to see the record broken
Jan 23 23:53:18 <Namworld>	Would probably tumble down afterward
Jan 23 23:53:45 <Bugpowder>	QQQ is down 1.5% AH just due to the drop in APPL share value AH
Jan 23 23:53:53 <Bugpowder>	ONLY that
Jan 23 23:54:04 <Bugpowder>	AAPL is 15%.
Jan 23 23:54:26 <jcpham>	;;bids 13
Jan 23 23:54:27 <gribble>	There are currently 84574.66 bitcoins demanded at or over 13.0 USD, worth 1333995.0604 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:54:32 <jcpham>	;;asks 99
Jan 23 23:54:34 <gribble>	There are currently 48697.266 bitcoins offered at or under 99.0 USD, worth 1393283.24391 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:55:39 <Bugpowder>	Thought this might happen when half the 18.01 bidwall disappeared
Jan 23 23:55:39 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 23 23:55:42 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 23 23:55:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.30001, Best ask: 18.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49999, Last trade: 18.80000, 24 hour volume: 64138.46494394, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 18.80000, 24 hour vwap: 17.51189
Jan 23 23:55:48 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 23 23:55:50 <Bugpowder>	18.8
Jan 23 23:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Jan 23 23:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	.5 gap ?!
Jan 23 23:56:20 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 23 23:56:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.30101, Best ask: 18.34768, Bid-ask spread: 0.04667, Last trade: 18.34768, 24 hour volume: 64163.91848394, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 18.80000, 24 hour vwap: 17.51222
Jan 23 23:56:28 <Bugpowder>	trades are still going off on clarkmoody
Jan 23 23:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	 Best bid: 18.30001, Best ask: 18.80000
Jan 23 23:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	this is to be preserved.
Jan 23 23:56:44 <Bugpowder>	ding ding ding ding
Jan 23 23:56:48 <Bugpowder>	I love it with the sound on
Jan 23 23:57:11 <Namworld>	that's because all the asks have been eaten
Jan 23 23:57:14 <Bugpowder>	That was exactly HALF the bid wall at 18.01
Jan 23 23:57:21 <Bugpowder>	there is still another half
Jan 23 23:57:22 <Namworld>	now it's getting a real buying frenzy
Jan 23 23:57:24 <jcpham>	it looks like the rocket
Jan 23 23:57:31 <Namworld>	Rollercoaster time
Jan 23 23:57:47 <Namworld>	I hope it stabilize at 20
Jan 23 23:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	it might actually touch 50
Jan 23 23:58:00 <Namworld>	eheheh
Jan 23 23:58:05 <Bugpowder>	20 is not a point of stability dude
Jan 23 23:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	basically wtf, i can't add option lines as fast as the market moves
Jan 23 23:58:15 <Bugpowder>	that is a bifurcation point
Jan 23 23:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder exactly
Jan 23 23:58:25 <Bugpowder>	well.... you can add them tomorrow
Jan 23 23:58:25 <mircea_popescu>	it decides : 50s or teens
Jan 23 23:58:29 <jcpham>	i thought it would slow down since it is getting late
Jan 23 23:58:30 <Bugpowder>	Yup
Jan 23 23:58:38 <Bugpowder>	its morning in JAPAN
Jan 23 23:58:41 <jcpham>	this must be a differnet hemisphere
Jan 23 23:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	its like 7am here.
Jan 23 23:58:53 <Bugpowder>	yeah its lunch in japan
Jan 23 23:59:02 <Namworld>	;;asks 19
Jan 23 23:59:03 <gribble>	There are currently 2432.2725 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 46000.0249847 USD in total.
Jan 23 23:59:07 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 23 23:59:08 <gribble>	17.42
Jan 23 23:59:09 <Namworld>	=/
Jan 23 23:59:12 <Bugpowder>	come on
Jan 23 23:59:15 <Bugpowder>	17.42
Jan 23 23:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	holy cow
Jan 23 23:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	50k usd to 19 ?
Jan 23 23:59:38 <Namworld>	It's just pure insanity...
Jan 23 23:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha am i glad i NEVER sold any btc. ever.
Jan 23 23:59:44 <Namworld>	Going crazy
Jan 23 23:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	by now even ther 60 i bought at 15 each are clear.
Jan 23 23:59:58 <Namworld>	I just soldmy 20k S.DICE to buy calls...
Jan 24 00:00:13 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 18.9
Jan 24 00:00:13 <Namworld>	My BitVPS investment is fixed
Jan 24 00:00:15 <gribble>	There are currently 612.68654 bitcoins offered at or under 18.9 USD, worth 11454.7319722 USD in total.
Jan 24 00:00:16 <jcpham>	all the coins are just being sucked up
Jan 24 00:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	dude jesus god
Jan 24 00:00:42 <Namworld>	Can't cash it out... otherwise I'd have purchased more calls...
Jan 24 00:01:22 <Bugpowder>	18.01 wall just disappeared
Jan 24 00:01:24 <Bugpowder>	brace yourself
Jan 24 00:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 00:01:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.53598, Best ask: 18.58998, Bid-ask spread: 0.05400, Last trade: 18.53598, 24 hour volume: 66488.29922688, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.56372
Jan 24 00:01:35 <Bugpowder>	a green candle is coming
Jan 24 00:01:58 <Namworld>	It's going to be a bad month for MPOE if the frenzy doesn't stop soon.
Jan 24 00:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	the thing that's most worrisome is that the volume is appalingly low.
Jan 24 00:02:14 <Namworld>	yes
Jan 24 00:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	price movement like this w/o like 2-500k of btc traded ?
Jan 24 00:02:22 <mircea_popescu>	it's not over then.
Jan 24 00:02:26 <Namworld>	;;asks 25
Jan 24 00:02:27 <gribble>	There are currently 26176.486 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 560171.712749 USD in total.
Jan 24 00:02:31 <Namworld>	;;asks 200
Jan 24 00:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;asks 50
Jan 24 00:02:33 <gribble>	There are currently 61802.524 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 3080707.99888 USD in total.
Jan 24 00:02:34 <gribble>	There are currently 41578.264 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 1093314.0675 USD in total.
Jan 24 00:02:41 <Namworld>	There's like no asks
Jan 24 00:02:41 <mircea_popescu>	it may get 50.
Jan 24 00:02:47 <Namworld>	Maybe
Jan 24 00:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	yeah cause nobody wants to sell.
Jan 24 00:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	basically the buyers were liek, o, no need to buy this.
Jan 24 00:03:00 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 19.5
Jan 24 00:03:01 <gribble>	There are currently 3150.0805 bitcoins offered at or under 19.5 USD, worth 60569.8808214 USD in total.
Jan 24 00:03:02 <mircea_popescu>	sellers were like, fuck this with reward halving im not selling
Jan 24 00:03:15 <mircea_popescu>	and well... this actually reminds me of the chernobyl nuclear accident
Jan 24 00:03:20 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 50
Jan 24 00:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	once the gas got eaten up it went critical.
Jan 24 00:03:23 <gribble>	There are currently 41578.264 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 1093314.0675 USD in total.
Jan 24 00:03:34 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 30
Jan 24 00:03:35 <gribble>	There are currently 32352.721 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 739001.016505 USD in total.
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Jan 24 00:03:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11152 @ 0.00060096 = 6.7019 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 00:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3676 @ 0.00059897 = 2.2018 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 00:08:33 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 18
Jan 24 00:08:35 <gribble>	There are currently 3303.8523 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 60034.255995 USD in total.
Jan 24 00:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	ok, options 20-35 added
Jan 24 00:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	bot will be quoting on the next tick
Jan 24 00:09:43 <mircea_popescu>	if it fucks up i *may* stop trade and rollback, so fair warning
Jan 24 00:10:23 <Namworld>	As long as it's only past this moment...
Jan 24 00:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Jan 24 00:10:38 <Namworld>	You can roll that back all you want
Jan 24 00:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	a, strictly mpoe bot trades if it fucks up quoting.
Jan 24 00:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	i had it tested past few days on test system but you know how it is...
Jan 24 00:12:53 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE up 15,000
Jan 24 00:12:54 <Namworld>	I mean I already bought options prior to you rolling 20-35 out
Jan 24 00:13:05 <Bugpowder>	quit yer bitchin
Jan 24 00:13:05 <Namworld>	and I'm out of cash
Jan 24 00:13:38 <Namworld>	So I hardly care about that 20-35 options being rolled back
Jan 24 00:14:01 <Bugpowder>	MPOE only has asks over 21 no bids
Jan 24 00:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	ok, bot is quoting fine.
Jan 24 00:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	operation complete.
Jan 24 00:14:41 <mircea_popescu>	here's to me hoping i won't be adding another 5000 db lines tomorrow lol
Jan 24 00:14:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00558478 = 2.2339 BTC [-]
Jan 24 00:15:00 <Bugpowder>	short the P350Ns
Jan 24 00:15:02 <Bugpowder>	oh yeah
Jan 24 00:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder yeah, it doesn't have itams. will get them after tomorrow.
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Jan 24 00:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 00:17:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.51620, Best ask: 18.66893, Bid-ask spread: 0.15273, Last trade: 18.66894, 24 hour volume: 68145.34624156, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.59925
Jan 24 00:20:25 <Bugpowder>	I think that 19 is a bad print
Jan 24 00:20:40 <Bugpowder>	clark moody always barfs about 340 users
Jan 24 00:20:44 <Bugpowder>	damn
Jan 24 00:20:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 00:20:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.70355, Best ask: 18.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09645, Last trade: 18.80000, 24 hour volume: 69541.42671625, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.62273
Jan 24 00:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think it is
Jan 24 00:21:21 <mircea_popescu>	there was a run-up earlier
Jan 24 00:21:29 <Bugpowder>	it hit 18.80
Jan 24 00:21:34 <Bugpowder>	and stopped
Jan 24 00:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=2&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&
Jan 24 00:21:40 <Bugpowder>	;asks 19
Jan 24 00:21:42 <mircea_popescu>	charts has it too
Jan 24 00:21:52 <Bugpowder>	I was watching
Jan 24 00:21:53 <mircea_popescu>	i think it was like that one time sdice sold for 18
Jan 24 00:21:58 <Bugpowder>	that trade never happened
Jan 24 00:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder maybe the feed isn't all that good.
Jan 24 00:22:17 <Bugpowder>	the candle formed
Jan 24 00:22:25 <Bugpowder>	and then the top got added later
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Jan 24 00:22:38 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 24 00:22:39 <Bugpowder>	who knows
Jan 24 00:22:49 <Bugpowder>	but all the asks would ahve been cleaned out to 19
Jan 24 00:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	i would strongly suspect the feeds are shit actually.
Jan 24 00:22:58 <Bugpowder>	and they were only cleand to 18.80
Jan 24 00:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	since nobody involved even knows what a feed is.
Jan 24 00:23:16 <Bugpowder>	I can't tell what is happening without the dings
Jan 24 00:23:36 <mircea_popescu>	funny how disorienting numbers alone can be, innit.\
Jan 24 00:24:04 <Namworld>	Us this: http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Jan 24 00:24:14 <Namworld>	more accurate, refreshes often
Jan 24 00:24:36 <Namworld>	The askwall at 20 is under 20k BTC now
Jan 24 00:24:47 <Namworld>	Getting eaten
Jan 24 00:25:02 <Bugpowder>	or removed
Jan 24 00:25:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00059897 = 8.0861 BTC [-]
Jan 24 00:25:07 <Bugpowder>	funny how that workds
Jan 24 00:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 24 00:25:26 <Bugpowder>	hey.... that order I placed 6 months ago to sell at 20
Jan 24 00:25:39 <Bugpowder>	now that we are getting close, I'm gonna raise the price.
Jan 24 00:25:57 <Bugpowder>	oo
Jan 24 00:26:01 <Bugpowder>	I was wrong
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Jan 24 00:26:10 <Bugpowder>	asks are clear to 19
Jan 24 00:26:27 <Bugpowder>	big runs of <1BTC
Jan 24 00:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.06560548 = 65.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:27:40 <Namworld>	people buying calls =/
Jan 24 00:27:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.05290351 = 52.9035 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:27:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1000 @ 0.05290351 = 52.9035 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:28:02 <Namworld>	Not sure I'd have bought those C190T...
Jan 24 00:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1000 @ 0.05290351 = 52.9035 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:28:08 <Namworld>	or C200T...
Jan 24 00:28:13 <Bugpowder>	idiots
Jan 24 00:28:19 <mircea_popescu>	hum
Jan 24 00:28:20 <Bugpowder>	fucking idiots
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Jan 24 00:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	seems like a gamble
Jan 24 00:28:24 <Namworld>	buy the C170T!
Jan 24 00:28:28 <Bugpowder>	dude
Jan 24 00:28:31 <Namworld>	They're the best priced!
Jan 24 00:28:36 <Bugpowder>	you pay the same
Jan 24 00:28:45 <Bugpowder>	for 18-20
Jan 24 00:28:51 <Namworld>	Who bought those?
Jan 24 00:28:53 <Bugpowder>	did you really need it NOW
Jan 24 00:28:58 <Bugpowder>	rather than in 5 minutes
Jan 24 00:29:09 <Bugpowder>	the 160s are the best priced actually
Jan 24 00:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	yeah good point.
Jan 24 00:29:19 <Namworld>	I bought 1800 C170T earlier...
Jan 24 00:29:35 <Namworld>	Instead of C160, they were better priced but I'd have gotten less
Jan 24 00:29:39 <Bugpowder>	I bot 1000 C160   last thursday on the first candle
Jan 24 00:29:46 <Bugpowder>	then 1400 more
Jan 24 00:29:54 <Bugpowder>	also short 400 P200s
Jan 24 00:30:04 <Namworld>	good call
Jan 24 00:30:06 <Bugpowder>	and some C140s
Jan 24 00:30:15 <mircea_popescu>	that doesn't sound too bad.
Jan 24 00:30:15 <Bugpowder>	short (like 100 contracts)
Jan 24 00:30:22 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 24 00:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	wait short c140 ?!
Jan 24 00:30:34 <Bugpowder>	from early in the month
Jan 24 00:30:41 <Namworld>	eh
Jan 24 00:30:45 <Bugpowder>	I bot the 160s to hedge
Jan 24 00:30:47 <Bugpowder>	overhedged
Jan 24 00:30:57 <Bugpowder>	over over hedged
Jan 24 00:30:59 <Bugpowder>	speculated
Jan 24 00:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.07060548 = 70.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:31:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:31:19 <Bugpowder>	fucking tard
Jan 24 00:31:29 <Bugpowder>	I should short some 200s
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Jan 24 00:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol taking EVERYTHING
Jan 24 00:31:56 <Bugpowder>	Maybe he wants 50,000 contracts
Jan 24 00:32:00 <Bugpowder>	then it might make sense
Jan 24 00:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	quite possible.
Jan 24 00:32:07 <Namworld>	If the guy has lots of BTC
Jan 24 00:32:07 <Bugpowder>	but will probably end in tears
Jan 24 00:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld well if you look at it, the whole set is 200 btc. liek a sdice bet
Jan 24 00:32:34 <Namworld>	What if he also wants to buy lots of BTC with cash?
Jan 24 00:32:56 <Bugpowder>	ask wall down
Jan 24 00:33:03 <Bugpowder>	buy coming?
Jan 24 00:33:09 <Namworld>	lol...
Jan 24 00:33:16 <Bugpowder>	love it
Jan 24 00:33:42 <Bugpowder>	some HFT shit going on right now
Jan 24 00:34:45 <Bugpowder>	All this AND S.DICE is now up 15k.
Jan 24 00:34:49 <Bugpowder>	I fucking love today
Jan 24 00:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.87869415 = 878.6942 BTC
Jan 24 00:35:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 0.93571518 = 935.7152 BTC
Jan 24 00:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.99273622 = 992.7362 BTC
Jan 24 00:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2698 @ 0.00060096 = 1.6214 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:35:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11802 @ 0.00060395 = 7.1278 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	oookay...
Jan 24 00:35:16 <Bugpowder>	oh
Jan 24 00:35:22 <Bugpowder>	now THATS what I'm talking about
Jan 24 00:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 5 @ 0.05560548 = 0.278 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:35:37 <Bugpowder>	wish I could afford it
Jan 24 00:36:03 <Bugpowder>	MPBOR gonna have a high % this month
Jan 24 00:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol from 2 to 12k btc exposure in 5 minutes.
Jan 24 00:37:09 <Namworld>	Was that someone buying puts?
Jan 24 00:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	looks like selling.
Jan 24 00:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 00:37:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.52651, Best ask: 18.66998, Bid-ask spread: 0.14347, Last trade: 18.68888, 24 hour volume: 68734.46498675, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.65469
Jan 24 00:38:08 <Namworld>	hmm, selling
Jan 24 00:39:07 <Namworld>	If it goes down back even 2-3 BTC, that seller will bite his fingers
Jan 24 00:39:19 <mircea_popescu>	yeah its pretty risky
Jan 24 00:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	then again, it could go up too.
Jan 24 00:39:52 <Namworld>	Mine is too. If average price doesn't go and stay at 18 or over, I lose some or all my 100 BTC
Jan 24 00:39:59 <Namworld>	althought that's not too much
Jan 24 00:40:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 88 @ 0.00575 = 0.506 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1362 @ 0.00576956 = 7.8581 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 00:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it all depends if one major holder decides to take 18 and exit
Jan 24 00:40:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.07060548 = 70.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:40:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like staring game
Jan 24 00:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.87549036 = 875.4904 BTC [-]
Jan 24 00:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 0.93241431 = 932.4143 BTC [-]
Jan 24 00:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.98933826 = 989.3383 BTC [-]
Jan 24 00:41:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 5 @ 0.05560548 = 0.278 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	this is certainly going to be record option volume month
Jan 24 00:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 00:42:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.53259, Best ask: 18.65989, Bid-ask spread: 0.12730, Last trade: 18.53258, 24 hour volume: 71118.31556065, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.68502
Jan 24 00:43:07 <jcpham>	boosh
Jan 24 00:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00060395 = 6.7038 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	hm is it stabilizing at 18.5 ?
Jan 24 00:44:27 <jcpham>	looks like it
Jan 24 00:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	not a bad price after all.
Jan 24 00:44:47 <jcpham>	sortof ridiculous to predict
Jan 24 00:44:59 <jcpham>	nota bad days work
Jan 24 00:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	watch it flashcrash lol
Jan 24 00:45:06 <jcpham>	doh
Jan 24 00:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	truth is tho, there's an asymmetry at work. if price goes up it's much easier to add btc to exchangesd to quench it
Jan 24 00:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	than if it goes down and you have to send wires and wait for a week
Jan 24 00:46:42 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 24 00:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	so upswings more likely to be accurate than downswings
Jan 24 00:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 00:46:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.53261, Best ask: 18.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01739, Last trade: 18.59997, 24 hour volume: 71460.90656065, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.69050
Jan 24 00:46:59 <Bugpowder>	takes a week now with wires?
Jan 24 00:47:09 <Bugpowder>	I usually got mine next day with gox
Jan 24 00:47:12 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i dunno i never did it myself. sorta guessing
Jan 24 00:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	ever tried one the other way around btw?
Jan 24 00:47:25 <Bugpowder>	ACH was slow
Jan 24 00:47:39 <Bugpowder>	I was never able to withdraw successfully
Jan 24 00:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 24 00:47:43 <dust-otc>	wires take ~3 days international
Jan 24 00:47:46 <Bugpowder>	also I couldn't deposit either
Jan 24 00:47:55 <Bugpowder>	from BoFA
Jan 24 00:48:04 <Bugpowder>	they wouldn't wire the money to that account
Jan 24 00:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	dust-otc ya but that's in case ppl are half competent
Jan 24 00:48:11 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder lol haters.
Jan 24 00:48:24 <Bugpowder>	Tangible was way better anyway
Jan 24 00:48:41 <Bugpowder>	and I changed my mind and rebought with the money I wanted to withdraw
Jan 24 00:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Jan 24 00:48:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 00:48:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.55000, Best ask: 18.63493, Bid-ask spread: 0.08493, Last trade: 18.55000, 24 hour volume: 71498.59656065, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.69095
Jan 24 00:48:49 <Bugpowder>	a happy ending
Jan 24 00:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	it's stopped is it
Jan 24 00:50:27 <Namworld>	nope, still lowering askwall
Jan 24 00:50:46 <Namworld>	;;asks 20
Jan 24 00:50:48 <gribble>	There are currently 17129.008 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 334360.435189 USD in total.
Jan 24 00:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.07060548 = 70.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 00:51:35 <Bugpowder>	CRACK HEAD
Jan 24 00:51:40 <Bugpowder>	BUY THE 160s
Jan 24 00:52:04 <Bugpowder>	better yet
Jan 24 00:52:07 <Bugpowder>	BUY THE COINS
Jan 24 00:52:23 <mircea_popescu>	yah it's odd not the 160s
Jan 24 00:52:32 <Bugpowder>	at least we know which way the well funded buyer wants the price to move
Jan 24 00:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.87442485 = 874.4249 BTC [-]
Jan 24 00:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 0.93131651 = 931.3165 BTC [-]
Jan 24 00:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.98820817 = 988.2082 BTC [-]
Jan 24 00:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 00:52:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.53503, Best ask: 18.59997, Bid-ask spread: 0.06494, Last trade: 18.53503, 24 hour volume: 71924.62261705, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.69668
Jan 24 00:52:50 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 24 00:52:52 <Bugpowder>	dude
Jan 24 00:52:58 <mircea_popescu>	boys, i have a theory, and i doubt you'll like it.
Jan 24 00:53:01 <Bugpowder>	how much is the deposit on those?
Jan 24 00:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	i think mpex quenched the rally.
Jan 24 00:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i dunno, 2.xk a pop ?
Jan 24 00:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	basically people have been adding ~7-8k of notional btc exposure every 10 minutes
Jan 24 00:53:45 <Bugpowder>	so around 20,000
Jan 24 00:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	for the past half hour
Jan 24 00:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	and since then... well... not much action on gox
Jan 24 00:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	if these trades unwound there it'd have pushed volume over 100k i guess
Jan 24 00:54:07 <Bugpowder>	it comes in bursts
Jan 24 00:54:27 <jcpham>	not really a bad thing if you ask me
Jan 24 00:54:38 <jcpham>	something should slow those trades a bit when it gets like that
Jan 24 00:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i guess that's a point yeah
Jan 24 00:54:58 <jcpham>	it's like you said you can feed it coins and control the rise
Jan 24 00:55:04 <jcpham>	or maybe you can't anymore...
Jan 24 00:55:17 <jcpham>	today has been wild
Jan 24 00:55:21 <jcpham>	followed bya week of wild
Jan 24 00:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	im not trading in the underlying market
Jan 24 00:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	and even if i were, fuck me if i'd sell btc in a blowup
Jan 24 00:55:40 <jcpham>	o
Jan 24 00:56:01 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 24 00:56:15 <Bugpowder>	who wants to sell at 20 with a decent shot at 50
Jan 24 00:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	that's a recipe for going bankrupt
Jan 24 00:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, if anyone cares max pain is like 17.8 or some shit
Jan 24 00:57:24 <jcpham>	nd what di we start the day at14?
Jan 24 00:57:30 <jcpham>	14.24
Jan 24 00:57:37 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 24 00:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	17.0 ?
Jan 24 00:57:42 <jcpham>	something like that i where i started keeping track
Jan 24 00:57:46 <mod6>	yeah 17
Jan 24 00:57:50 <mircea_popescu>	ya but was like lasdt week
Jan 24 00:57:51 <jcpham>	am i day behind
Jan 24 00:58:01 <jcpham>	i'm tired
Jan 24 00:58:08 <jcpham>	no more talk
Jan 24 00:58:12 <Bugpowder>	u are a week behind
Jan 24 00:58:23 <Bugpowder>	14 was last thurs
Jan 24 00:58:35 <jcpham>	my days are running together
Jan 24 00:58:45 <Bugpowder>	put down the pipe
Jan 24 00:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 24 00:58:52 <jcpham>	maybe that
Jan 24 00:59:01 <Bugpowder>	;;bc;24hprc
Jan 24 00:59:01 <gribble>	Error: "bc;24hprc" is not a valid command.
Jan 24 00:59:06 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 00:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	dude. comma.
Jan 24 00:59:07 <gribble>	17.63
Jan 24 00:59:33 <jcpham>	it's thursday though, right
Jan 24 00:59:36 <jcpham>	or about tobe
Jan 24 00:59:41 <mod6>	yea
Jan 24 00:59:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 24 01:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.07060548 = 70.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:00:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:02:45 <Bugpowder>	FFS
Jan 24 01:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 4 @ 0.05560548 = 0.2224 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:03:11 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 24 01:03:25 <Bugpowder>	how can someone with so many coins be so bad at math?
Jan 24 01:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.8680571 = 868.0571 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 0.9247558 = 924.7558 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.9814545 = 981.4545 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:05:58 <Bugpowder>	kakobrekla better close this http://bitbet.us/bet/152/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-below-18-35-and/
Jan 24 01:06:03 <Namworld>	Maybe he just has so much coins, he just HAS to buy these calls/sell these puts
Jan 24 01:06:10 <Namworld>	or else it's too slow
Jan 24 01:06:21 <Namworld>	then he buys a large stack on MtGox
Jan 24 01:06:23 <Namworld>	and poof
Jan 24 01:06:30 <Bugpowder>	if he has 30,000BTC he can afford the 160s
Jan 24 01:06:41 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Jan 24 01:06:42 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 24 01:06:57 <Bugpowder>	if he has 30,000 BTC on MPEX
Jan 24 01:06:59 <Namworld>	He might want quantity over current value
Jan 24 01:07:27 <Bugpowder>	he could have 30,000 BTC worth of currency to make plays on Gox too
Jan 24 01:07:36 <Bugpowder>	shit
Jan 24 01:07:44 <Bugpowder>	I wish I was a player like that
Jan 24 01:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.56000001 = 15.12 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 01:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	or maybe he just has a diff price target in mind
Jan 24 01:10:22 <mircea_popescu>	if say he thinks it really does go to 50
Jan 24 01:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	makes sense to spend 50 per call rather than 100 per call.
Jan 24 01:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	even if the strike is 1 dollar less
Jan 24 01:10:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2685 @ 0.00059897 = 1.6082 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:10:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13915 @ 0.00059725 = 8.3107 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.07060548 = 70.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:11:09 <Namworld>	there he goes again...
Jan 24 01:11:13 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, if he's for whatever reason short usd, like having taken in btc obligations and usd assets
Jan 24 01:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	he HAS to insure against the 50 price
Jan 24 01:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	and 5% per btc may seem like good insurance.
Jan 24 01:11:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.8680571 = 868.0571 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 0.9247558 = 924.7558 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.9814545 = 981.4545 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	um,m actually
Jan 24 01:12:04 <Namworld>	mircea, should be getting tempting for you to crash MtGox price...
Jan 24 01:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	that's not even what the bot quotes
Jan 24 01:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha dude actually put up walls on the Cs
Jan 24 01:12:22 <mod6>	im starting to wonder if someones bot went on derp mode
Jan 24 01:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	and walked away
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Jan 24 01:12:42 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 24 01:12:45 <Namworld>	eheh
Jan 24 01:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld not rly.
Jan 24 01:13:15 <Namworld>	eh
Jan 24 01:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	i kinda like this "s.mpoe worth 600k btc x 50 a pop" business
Jan 24 01:13:17 <Bugpowder>	wait, walls on the P330-350s?
Jan 24 01:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder on the calls
Jan 24 01:13:26 <Namworld>	well that too
Jan 24 01:13:42 <Namworld>	But seems like MPOE will have a bad month. I think people mostly got calls
Jan 24 01:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Jan 24 01:13:58 <Namworld>	Well, always the next month to earn it back if it doesn't go down soon.
Jan 24 01:14:02 <Bugpowder>	depends what will happen
Jan 24 01:14:12 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 24 01:14:13 <Bugpowder>	MPOE averages at 12% return a month
Jan 24 01:14:25 <Bugpowder>	sometimes you gotta have a bad month
Jan 24 01:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	^^ that.
Jan 24 01:14:38 <Namworld>	indeed
Jan 24 01:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	course i don't thinkl it's underwater atm
Jan 24 01:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 01:15:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.50713, Best ask: 18.56289, Bid-ask spread: 0.05576, Last trade: 18.56299, 24 hour volume: 69393.03593511, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.73777
Jan 24 01:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder no bursts dude. rally died.
Jan 24 01:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	ima go eat.
Jan 24 01:15:41 <Namworld>	;;asks 20
Jan 24 01:15:42 <gribble>	There are currently 17210.139 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 335788.636849 USD in total.
Jan 24 01:15:55 <Bugpowder>	bed time
Jan 24 01:15:57 <Namworld>	Ah well no movement
Jan 24 01:16:01 <Bugpowder>	don't crash on me
Jan 24 01:16:10 <Bugpowder>	I am happy with a churn at 18.50
Jan 24 01:16:13 <mod6>	i think everyone is just resetting their bids, etc.
Jan 24 01:16:28 *	Namworld watches BTC goes to 0.01 USD each and back to 10 while bugpowder sleeps
Jan 24 01:16:36 <mod6>	yeah, floor @ 18.50, but might kick back into gear later
Jan 24 01:16:43 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 2.5/18.5 /.072
Jan 24 01:16:43 <gribble>	1.87687687688
Jan 24 01:16:53 <mod6>	heh
Jan 24 01:18:06 <mod6>	we'll see :)
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Jan 24 01:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:22:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.86700001 = 867 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 0.92366667 = 923.6667 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.98033334 = 980.3333 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:22:50 <Namworld>	Well...
Jan 24 01:22:55 <Namworld>	lots of puts
Jan 24 01:24:34 <mod6>	i think the 1695 wall @ 18.56 is about to fall here...
Jan 24 01:25:08 <mod6>	err 18.59
Jan 24 01:29:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00059982 = 5.9682 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:29:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7789 @ 0.00060197 = 4.6887 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 01:30:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:30:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 01:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-23/oldest-bank-world-plunges-halted-chairman-resigns-aftermath-latest-derivatives-fiasc
Jan 24 01:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile back at the ranch
Jan 24 01:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 01:32:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.48982, Best ask: 18.65502, Bid-ask spread: 0.16520, Last trade: 18.65503, 24 hour volume: 69401.90200137, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.76489
Jan 24 01:32:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.8659441 = 865.9441 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:32:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 0.92257877 = 922.5788 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:32:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.97921344 = 979.2134 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:37:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5810 @ 0.00059725 = 3.47 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10590 @ 0.00059639 = 6.3158 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:37:25 <Namworld>	wall at 17 approaching 20k
Jan 24 01:37:37 <Namworld>	wall at 20 still around 17k
Jan 24 01:37:47 <Namworld>	but mostly nothing seems to be happening
Jan 24 01:38:16 <mod6>	gotta reshuffle before the next leg up :
Jan 24 01:38:20 <mod6>	:)
Jan 24 01:39:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00569482 = 5.6948 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00568117 = 11.9305 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00561477 = 6.1762 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.0054503 = 9.2655 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 148 @ 0.0054045 = 0.7999 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00536136 = 2.6807 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00531943 = 1.5958 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 217 @ 0.00531943 = 1.1543 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1619 @ 0.00531942 = 8.6121 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0053 = 53 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00525003 = 52.5003 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15000 @ 0.00525002 = 78.7503 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2350 @ 0.00523421 = 12.3004 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.00515 = 103 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 543 @ 0.0051312 = 2.7862 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00513118 = 5.1312 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.005 = 250 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2314 @ 0.004901 = 11.3409 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 32 @ 0.00455003 = 0.1456 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00430001 = 4.73 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1592 @ 0.00360676 = 5.742 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00319 = 5.742 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00180002 = 1.62 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250000 @ 0.0018 = 450 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4160 @ 0.0014 = 5.824 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:39:49 <mod6>	wow
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Jan 24 01:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1000 @ 0.05560548 = 55.6055 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 985 @ 0.05560548 = 54.7714 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15000 @ 0.00085848 = 12.8772 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:44:20 <mircea_popescu>	what the
Jan 24 01:44:32 <mircea_popescu>	18!?
Jan 24 01:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 24 01:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.00346605 / 0.00614098 (510717 shares, 1,770.17 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.0041628 / 0.00614098 (831795 shares, 3,462.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00413204 / 0.00614098 (10072631 shares, 41,620.58 BTC)
Jan 24 01:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Jan 24 01:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.8659441 = 865.9441 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 0.92257877 = 922.5788 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.97921344 = 979.2134 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:46:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4109 @ 0.00576956 = 23.7071 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00587903 = 14.6976 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:46:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00592581 = 7.9998 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00609998 = 60.9998 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4500 @ 0.00609999 = 27.45 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2828 @ 0.00610559 = 17.2666 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6200 @ 0.00614 = 38.068 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.006199 = 12.398 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 440 @ 0.00619997 = 2.728 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00619998 = 61.9998 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00619999 = 61.9999 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1259 @ 0.00623784 = 7.8534 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00639999 = 63.9999 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.00648999 = 129.7998 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00649 = 64.9 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00659999 = 65.9999 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00679999 = 67.9999 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1658 @ 0.0068 = 11.2744 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8881 @ 0.00699 = 62.0782 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:47:22 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is this !?
Jan 24 01:47:26 <mod6>	i have no clue
Jan 24 01:47:27 <Namworld>	Someone stop fucking...
Jan 24 01:47:28 <asa1024>	wtf
Jan 24 01:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	jesus fuck this is like, 1000s of btc
Jan 24 01:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15000 @ 0.00085848 = 12.8772 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	for fucks sake, that's like 12% of price.
Jan 24 01:48:22 <mircea_popescu>	and the chinese just announced they're moving the yuan on gold standard.
Jan 24 01:48:54 <mod6>	officially?
Jan 24 01:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://investmentwatchblog.com/currency-war-between-the-us-china-japan-in-process-euro-could-be-next-to-join-the-war-wgc-confirms-the-chinese-are-going-to-back-the-yuan-with-gold/
Jan 24 01:49:21 *	mod6 looks
Jan 24 01:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	china is taking over. period.
Jan 24 01:49:54 <Namworld>	All praise our new overlords!
Jan 24 01:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.DICE jurov your graphs are broken
Jan 24 01:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Jan 24 01:50:45 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i seriously would prefer a world run by china to a world run by the us.
Jan 24 01:50:59 <Namworld>	I prefer a world run by neither
Jan 24 01:51:09 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Jan 24 01:51:38 <lautaro>	Hahahaha! You have not dealt much with the chinese, just wait
Jan 24 01:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	lautaro o ?
Jan 24 01:51:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 01:51:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.46013, Best ask: 18.58879, Bid-ask spread: 0.12866, Last trade: 18.60000, 24 hour volume: 68374.97603495, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.78022
Jan 24 01:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 24 01:52:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.0040434 / 0.00699 (636442 shares, 2,573.39 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00445507 / 0.00699 (957520 shares, 4,265.82 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00415986 / 0.00699 (10198356 shares, 42,423.80 BTC)
Jan 24 01:52:29 <mircea_popescu>	that shit was insane.
Jan 24 01:52:42 <lautaro>	Could this explain the buying in S.DICE: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/ ?
Jan 24 01:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	lautaro taht was there for a while iirc
Jan 24 01:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 24 01:54:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.53000000 / 0.56207879 / 0.58900000 (165 shares, 92.74300018 BTC), 7D: 0.48100000 / 0.54793774 / 0.62000000 (792 shares, 433.96668952 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.47047986 / 0.62000000 (4336 shares, 2040.00068950 BTC)
Jan 24 01:55:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13290 @ 0.00059639 = 7.926 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:55:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8610 @ 0.00059613 = 5.1327 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:55:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 27 @ 0.009 = 0.243 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:55:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.8659441 = 865.9441 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:55:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 80 @ 0.009 = 0.72 BTC [+]
Jan 24 01:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 0.92257877 = 922.5788 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:55:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.97921344 = 979.2134 BTC [-]
Jan 24 01:55:28 <Namworld>	Too much trading occuring
Jan 24 01:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	yup, mpex like 117k volume
Jan 24 01:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	was 80s yest
Jan 24 01:56:52 <mod6>	haha, just a few hours ago
Jan 24 01:56:54 <Namworld>	Hmm... congrats, I suppose
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Jan 24 01:59:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0068 BTC [-]
Jan 24 02:00:56 <Namworld>	Now would someone be nice enough to loan me some assets on BTCT.co?
Jan 24 02:01:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0067 = 0.0134 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 02:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 02:02:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.49144, Best ask: 18.58700, Bid-ask spread: 0.09556, Last trade: 18.58699, 24 hour volume: 68970.80981326, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.79120
Jan 24 02:03:39 *	Bugpowder (47ab6a02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.171.106.2) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Jan 24 02:03:42 <Bugpowder>	DA FUCK
Jan 24 02:03:46 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE
Jan 24 02:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	hi wb.
Jan 24 02:03:51 <mod6>	lol
Jan 24 02:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	poor bugsy, can't sleep lol
Jan 24 02:04:17 <Bugpowder>	peed
Jan 24 02:04:20 <Bugpowder>	checked phone
Jan 24 02:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	BOOM
Jan 24 02:04:27 <Bugpowder>	now I have the capital for the calls
Jan 24 02:04:30 <Bugpowder>	FUCKING A
Jan 24 02:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00060197 = 9.1499 BTC [+]
Jan 24 02:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	haha wait, you bought cheap sdice ?
Jan 24 02:04:41 <Bugpowder>	the stink bid strategy works again
Jan 24 02:04:45 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 24 02:04:49 <Bugpowder>	I had asks up
Jan 24 02:04:52 <mircea_popescu>	you sold ? a ok
Jan 24 02:05:09 <Bugpowder>	How many went off at .001
Jan 24 02:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	there were 15k at .008
Jan 24 02:05:29 <mod6>	snipe
Jan 24 02:05:30 <Namworld>	Someone probably reversed price and amount on that S.DICE. Wanted to sell 50000 @ 500000 for example but sold 500 000 at 50000 and ate all the bids.
Jan 24 02:05:33 <Bugpowder>	mother fukkker
Jan 24 02:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00319 = 5.742 BTC [-]
Jan 24 02:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00180002 = 1.62 BTC [-]
Jan 24 02:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 250000 @ 0.0018 = 450 BTC [-]
Jan 24 02:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4160 @ 0.0014 = 5.824 BTC [-]
Jan 24 02:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [-]
Jan 24 02:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	<mod6> wow
Jan 24 02:05:45 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 24 02:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld you think ?
Jan 24 02:05:54 <Namworld>	I'd guess so...
Jan 24 02:05:56 <Bugpowder>	definitey
Jan 24 02:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	you know what this is actually possible
Jan 24 02:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	o wow poor fucker.
Jan 24 02:06:07 <Namworld>	Same stupid shit happened on GLBSE, except almost daily.
Jan 24 02:06:16 <Bugpowder>	This is why I paid jurov to code the confirmation warning into pyMPEX
Jan 24 02:06:24 <Bugpowder>	I did the same thing 2 weeks ago
Jan 24 02:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	money well spent
Jan 24 02:06:28 <Bugpowder>	but smaller scale
Jan 24 02:06:33 <Bugpowder>	5BTC
Jan 24 02:06:43 <Namworld>	yes
Jan 24 02:06:46 <Bugpowder>	now it tells me the total BTC before being sold
Jan 24 02:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	that 450 btc ? thart's like what, 20k dollah lost
Jan 24 02:06:53 <Bugpowder>	I lost like 30BTC on that trade
Jan 24 02:07:02 <Bugpowder>	and never was able to buy back all teh shares
Jan 24 02:07:26 <mircea_popescu>	if this is what happened someone's axing his computar right about now
Jan 24 02:07:43 <Bugpowder>	it is definitely what happened
Jan 24 02:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://simage1.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/1/190093_ts.jpg
Jan 24 02:07:52 <Bugpowder>	the numbers make perfect sense
Jan 24 02:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	i guess they do
Jan 24 02:08:23 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 24 02:08:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.0040434 / 0.00699 (636442 shares, 2,573.39 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00445404 / 0.00699 (956758 shares, 4,261.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00415986 / 0.00699 (10198356 shares, 42,423.80 BTC)
Jan 24 02:08:28 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 24 02:08:37 <Bugpowder>	not using that vwap for my current valuation
Jan 24 02:08:41 <Namworld>	Ah, and to say I removed my bids for S.DICE at around 0.0018
Jan 24 02:08:52 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder lmao why not
Jan 24 02:09:06 <Namworld>	I could have 60k S.DICE right now. At the expense of someone else, of course
Jan 24 02:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	they sold close to the month's dividend i guess
Jan 24 02:09:29 <Bugpowder>	I am usaging that shit for a day
Jan 24 02:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Jan 24 02:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	"i am usaging" lmao
Jan 24 02:10:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (0.00085848 + 0.00699) / 2
Jan 24 02:10:27 <gribble>	0.00392424
Jan 24 02:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	you could use that...
Jan 24 02:10:51 <dust-otc>	i read it as "usagi-ing that shit" for a day
Jan 24 02:10:58 <mircea_popescu>	im sure it's what he meant.
Jan 24 02:11:06 <Bugpowder>	60K of my shares got bot too
Jan 24 02:11:57 <Bugpowder>	so it went up then down?
Jan 24 02:12:08 <Namworld>	down then 20 seconds after, up
Jan 24 02:12:11 <mod6>	down then up
Jan 24 02:12:19 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 02:12:20 <gribble>	17.75
Jan 24 02:12:36 <mod6>	after the dump there was ~500`000 @ .00085848 for about 30 seconds
Jan 24 02:12:38 <Namworld>	Probably someone going holy fucking shit @&*$@* dumb me fuckin @$@#...
Jan 24 02:12:49 <Namworld>	:O
Jan 24 02:12:57 <Namworld>	Damn
Jan 24 02:12:58 <mod6>	then the buy for 15`000, then the rest was pulled
Jan 24 02:13:08 <mod6>	and then someone bought hard
Jan 24 02:14:05 <mod6>	i couldn't hardly believe my eyes, was O.O
Jan 24 02:14:23 <Namworld>	yeah, definitly someone interchanging price and amount to sell
Jan 24 02:14:32 <mod6>	yeah. :/
Jan 24 02:14:35 <Namworld>	Want to sell a bit at high price, sold a lot at low price
Jan 24 02:14:43 <Namworld>	or he wanted 0.008....
Jan 24 02:14:48 <Namworld>	make a large sell wall
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Jan 24 02:15:01 <Namworld>	a small error can cost a lot when placing a trade order
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Jan 24 02:15:16 <Namworld>	Biggest I made was a 50 BTC loss
Jan 24 02:15:19 <Bugpowder>	my better than ponzi portfolio performance continues up parabolically
Jan 24 02:15:20 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/CncxaUU.png
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Jan 24 02:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 lol people be watching the tickers i guess
Jan 24 02:16:05 <Namworld>	Can I get in on that, bug?
Jan 24 02:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	<Namworld> a small error can cost a lot when placing a trade order << it's the nature of the beast. talking directly into the pit, results follow
Jan 24 02:16:16 <Bugpowder>	2 and 10
Jan 24 02:16:20 <Bugpowder>	sure
Jan 24 02:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder that is totally a ponzi man.
Jan 24 02:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	srsly now.
Jan 24 02:16:35 <Namworld>	What are you doing exactly?
Jan 24 02:16:47 <Bugpowder>	trading mpex
Jan 24 02:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	he's buying s.dice at 60 and selling at 18
Jan 24 02:16:54 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 24 02:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	or no wait
Jan 24 02:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	vice-versa
Jan 24 02:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	dang, i mixed them up
Jan 24 02:17:24 <Bugpowder>	I'm buying S.DICE at 34
Jan 24 02:17:29 <Bugpowder>	and selling at 54
Jan 24 02:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	o, did you miss the 32 ?
Jan 24 02:17:32 <Bugpowder>	and buying at 48
Jan 24 02:17:41 <Bugpowder>	and selling at 69900
Jan 24 02:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 24 02:17:49 <Bugpowder>	yes I was not yet with us
Jan 24 02:17:55 <Namworld>	Ok, I'll give you 1 BTC and come back next year for my 200 000 BTC
Jan 24 02:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	did you make enough for a russian mail order bride yet ?
Jan 24 02:18:14 <Bugpowder>	how much do those cost?
Jan 24 02:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea. like a used camry ?
Jan 24 02:18:46 <mod6>	lol
Jan 24 02:18:49 <mod6>	so about $1200
Jan 24 02:18:57 <Bugpowder>	yeah I got a whole used car lot
Jan 24 02:18:59 <Bugpowder>	then
Jan 24 02:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	get one for you, one for your wife
Jan 24 02:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	and one for the family dog
Jan 24 02:19:30 <Bugpowder>	I was just talking to her about this topic
Jan 24 02:19:47 <Bugpowder>	If I keep this up
Jan 24 02:20:05 <Bugpowder>	I will trade or sell coins and buy a Tesla model S
Jan 24 02:20:15 <Bugpowder>	and get a plate that says BTCAR
Jan 24 02:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Jan 24 02:20:19 <Bugpowder>	or BTC CAR
Jan 24 02:20:23 <Bugpowder>	or BITCAR
Jan 24 02:20:27 <Bugpowder>	or something like that
Jan 24 02:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	runs on lulzmoney
Jan 24 02:20:32 <Bugpowder>	her idea
Jan 24 02:20:36 <mod6>	haha
Jan 24 02:20:48 <Namworld>	25k for a good one. But you can get as low as $2000, but the girl might have a pronounced Adam's apple. I recommend not being a cheapskate.
Jan 24 02:20:56 <Bugpowder>	best $2,000 investment evar
Jan 24 02:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	ye see this here car ? i bought myselv this here car on internet funny money
Jan 24 02:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	and i pay for the electricity throuygh mining for lulz
Jan 24 02:21:13 <Bugpowder>	Maybe Elon will trade me one for bitcoins.
Jan 24 02:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i dunno dood, that murmansk miner didn't sound like he'd ask for 25k
Jan 24 02:22:13 <Bugpowder>	27,000 short puts at 330-350?!?
Jan 24 02:22:19 <Namworld>	yeah, totally making prices up anyway
Jan 24 02:22:27 <Bugpowder>	that guy has enough capital to move the market
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Jan 24 02:22:38 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 24 02:22:43 <Bugpowder>	thats at least 60,000 BTC in deposits
Jan 24 02:22:49 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder maybe its the btc he bought on gox
Jan 24 02:22:54 <Namworld>	I lost the opportunity of cheap S.DICE
Jan 24 02:23:04 <Namworld>	Because I bought 1800 calls at 17
Jan 24 02:23:11 <Bugpowder>	hahhah
Jan 24 02:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 24 02:23:17 <Namworld>	Would have loved to catch those cheap S.DICE
Jan 24 02:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	mpex. no matter what you do, you'll regret it.
Jan 24 02:23:34 <Bugpowder>	the current great idea is rarely the best
Jan 24 02:23:36 <mircea_popescu>	like willy wonka's chocolate fabriquator.
Jan 24 02:23:43 <Bugpowder>	Seriously though
Jan 24 02:23:49 <Namworld>	Eh, you can't have capital in escrow on everything
Jan 24 02:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	why not ?
Jan 24 02:24:14 <Namworld>	Well you can, but only by spreading what you have available
Jan 24 02:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	that's a point.
Jan 24 02:24:27 <Namworld>	I sunk about 450 BTC in S.BVPS
Jan 24 02:24:39 <Namworld>	and had 100 BTC left
Jan 24 02:24:40 <Bugpowder>	This guy buys 30,000 calls, shorts 27,000 puts 16 hours before opex
Jan 24 02:24:51 <Namworld>	I had a large order for lowball S.DICE before
Jan 24 02:24:59 <Namworld>	But I wanted CALLS
Jan 24 02:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder why do you think it;s the same dood ?
Jan 24 02:25:03 <Bugpowder>	I think he is going to make a play to push the price
Jan 24 02:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 02:25:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.34886, Best ask: 18.47000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12114, Last trade: 18.47776, 24 hour volume: 69656.34524887, 24 hour low: 16.80155, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.82456
Jan 24 02:25:17 <Bugpowder>	because they went off at the same time
Jan 24 02:25:28 <Bugpowder>	similar size
Jan 24 02:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	rally looks well spent actually. maybe in a few hours it starts over
Jan 24 02:25:34 <Bugpowder>	and stopped together too
Jan 24 02:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	no they didn't, the calls are still on the books
Jan 24 02:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	bot ran out
Jan 24 02:25:53 <Bugpowder>	ah
Jan 24 02:25:59 <Bugpowder>	whats the total exposure?
Jan 24 02:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	imo it's obviously two diff guys. other than very diff economics involved, one put in a calls order and left
Jan 24 02:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	the other kept doing market orders to wipe the bot.
Jan 24 02:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	like 60k
Jan 24 02:26:32 <Namworld>	MPEx bot ran out?
Jan 24 02:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	well yes
Jan 24 02:26:42 <Namworld>	that explains why options are no longer sold...
Jan 24 02:26:46 <Bugpowder>	MPBOR of 25%
Jan 24 02:26:57 <mircea_popescu>	it originally had 5k of any option, but then i expanded hiom to 8k
Jan 24 02:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder for sure max int.
Jan 24 02:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	and actually on the 170s
Jan 24 02:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	check out the spread hehe 0.07060548 / 0.07286167
Jan 24 02:28:57 <Bugpowder>	if he put up a simlar bid on the 160s id be tempted to cash it.
Jan 24 02:29:02 <Bugpowder>	but...
Jan 24 02:29:10 <Bugpowder>	they must know something is coming
Jan 24 02:29:13 <Bugpowder>	might
Jan 24 02:29:17 <Bugpowder>	might know
Jan 24 02:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	i think the call buys are pure fear
Jan 24 02:29:29 <mircea_popescu>	someone owing 10-20k btcs and having dollars.
Jan 24 02:29:36 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 24 02:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	so they went fuck it, lose some coins, not lose the house
Jan 24 02:29:38 <Bugpowder>	that makes sens
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Jan 24 02:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	whereas the puts are speculative, expects price increase
Jan 24 02:30:02 <Bugpowder>	well I'm glad im on their team
Jan 24 02:30:08 <mircea_popescu>	but there's no way t oexplain why he only bought the cheap ones and all of them
Jan 24 02:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	other than because he was thinking "infinite price"
Jan 24 02:30:36 <Bugpowder>	really need sleep
Jan 24 02:30:41 <Bugpowder>	Im fucked tomorrow now
Jan 24 02:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	go ahead and sleep
Jan 24 02:30:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's an excellent trigger for interesting shit
Jan 24 02:30:55 <mod6>	haha
Jan 24 02:31:02 <mod6>	be right back in 15 minutes
Jan 24 02:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 24 02:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	i dunnop what can happen anymore tho.
Jan 24 02:31:23 <mircea_popescu>	maybe bbet sells out
Jan 24 02:32:10 <mod6>	:]
Jan 24 02:32:55 <Namworld>	Well I know I'm entertained
Jan 24 02:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20318 @ 0.00059855 = 12.1613 BTC [-]
Jan 24 02:34:39 <mod6>	Namworld: lot of action tonight
Jan 24 02:34:48 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 24 02:35:09 <Namworld>	I'm pissed at Amazingrando tho
Jan 24 02:35:26 <Namworld>	I could have had 770 BTC extra on orders...
Jan 24 02:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	never trust a miner.
Jan 24 02:35:38 <Namworld>	Seems like it.
Jan 24 02:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6518 @ 0.00059855 = 3.9013 BTC [-]
Jan 24 02:36:22 <Namworld>	Would definitly have caught lots of S.DICE
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Jan 24 02:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00059855 = 8.9783 BTC [-]
Jan 24 02:56:32 <mod6>	strength building
Jan 24 02:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00059867 = 1.1375 BTC [+]
Jan 24 02:58:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24711 @ 0.00060197 = 14.8753 BTC [+]
Jan 24 02:58:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00060365 = 8.3304 BTC [+]
Jan 24 02:58:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2764 @ 0.00060395 = 1.6693 BTC [+]
Jan 24 02:58:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10994 @ 0.00060696 = 6.6729 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 03:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00059907 = 10.933 BTC [-]
Jan 24 03:20:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3869 @ 0.00060412 = 2.3373 BTC [+]
Jan 24 03:20:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5832 @ 0.00059855 = 3.4907 BTC [-]
Jan 24 03:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2606 @ 0.00060696 = 1.5817 BTC [+]
Jan 24 03:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12044 @ 0.00060961 = 7.3421 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 03:28:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2822 @ 0.00060786 = 1.7154 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 03:36:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11348 @ 0.00060961 = 6.9179 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 03:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/marketplace-excitement-with-expert-commentary-for-your-vicarious-trading-pleasure/
Jan 24 03:41:52 <mircea_popescu>	earlier chatlog if anyone's curious.
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Jan 24 03:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.56000001 = 4.48 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 04:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1158 @ 0.00060961 = 0.7059 BTC [+]
Jan 24 04:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4325 @ 0.00061136 = 2.6441 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 04:10:59 <uglux>	crazy morning :)
Jan 24 04:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1128 @ 0.00060786 = 0.6857 BTC [-]
Jan 24 04:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00060676 = 4.6114 BTC [-]
Jan 24 04:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5632 @ 0.00059855 = 3.371 BTC [-]
Jan 24 04:12:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6440 @ 0.00059805 = 3.8514 BTC [-]
Jan 24 04:15:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00061136 = 7.8865 BTC [+]
Jan 24 04:15:18 *	markedathome thinks I woke up to some excitement
Jan 24 04:15:34 <markedathome>	*he
Jan 24 04:18:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8610 @ 0.00059805 = 5.1492 BTC [-]
Jan 24 04:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7818 @ 0.00059686 = 4.6663 BTC [-]
Jan 24 04:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Jan 24 04:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	3 horus, half million dollah traded.
Jan 24 04:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	on mpex
Jan 24 04:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	add another mn or two on mtgox... pretty hefty.
Jan 24 04:24:28 <markedathome>	I saw, are we heading up with the arrival of asics "confirmed", or will it spike with the actual delivery?
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Jan 24 04:30:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0061 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 04:37:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12783 @ 0.00061136 = 7.815 BTC [+]
Jan 24 04:37:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1017 @ 0.00061137 = 0.6218 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 04:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00060731 = 7.6521 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 04:52:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8705 @ 0.00060687 = 5.2828 BTC [-]
Jan 24 04:52:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7469 BTC [+]
Jan 24 04:52:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.747 BTC [+]
Jan 24 04:53:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00061137 = 3.5154 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 04:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00061137 = 2.7206 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 05:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4104 @ 0.0006069 = 2.4907 BTC [-]
Jan 24 05:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00060579 = 4.2708 BTC [-]
Jan 24 05:02:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0061225 = 3.6735 BTC [-]
Jan 24 05:02:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+]
Jan 24 05:04:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3703 @ 0.00060292 = 2.2326 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 05:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10353 @ 0.00061137 = 6.3295 BTC [+]
Jan 24 05:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13133 @ 0.00061148 = 8.0306 BTC [+]
Jan 24 05:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2214 @ 0.00061155 = 1.354 BTC [+]
Jan 24 05:12:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0061 = 2.44 BTC [-]
Jan 24 05:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0062 = 12.4 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 05:23:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1586 @ 0.00061155 = 0.9699 BTC [+]
Jan 24 05:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24 @ 0.0006117 = 0.0147 BTC [+]
Jan 24 05:23:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19390 @ 0.00061269 = 11.8801 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 05:57:44 <azx>	are people running away from mpex?
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Jan 24 06:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8949 @ 0.0006138 = 5.4929 BTC [+]
Jan 24 06:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4173 @ 0.00061461 = 2.5648 BTC [+]
Jan 24 06:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1177 @ 0.00061461 = 0.7234 BTC [+]
Jan 24 06:21:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14996 @ 0.00061857 = 9.2761 BTC [+]
Jan 24 06:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8427 @ 0.00061947 = 5.2203 BTC [+]
Jan 24 06:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00061947 = 4.4602 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 06:28:40 <jurov>	mornin
Jan 24 06:29:29 <jurov>	first i was liek "fine mircea added C350Ts"
Jan 24 06:29:43 <jurov>	then as i read further.... O.o
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Jan 24 06:31:45 <jurov>	why not add 400, 450 & 500 preemptively? at least for next month :D
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Jan 24 06:33:22 <jurov>	azx: no, just cashing out of s.mpoe
Jan 24 06:36:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12255 @ 0.00061939 = 7.5906 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 06:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1823 @ 0.00061947 = 1.1293 BTC [+]
Jan 24 06:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00061961 = 7.5902 BTC [+]
Jan 24 06:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3513 @ 0.00061987 = 2.1776 BTC [+]
Jan 24 06:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12214 @ 0.00062104 = 7.5854 BTC [+]
Jan 24 06:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6888 @ 0.00062123 = 4.279 BTC [+]
Jan 24 07:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062148 = 3.1074 BTC [+]
Jan 24 07:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00062149 = 9.1359 BTC [+]
Jan 24 07:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62 @ 0.00062217 = 0.0386 BTC [+]
Jan 24 07:04:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 219 @ 0.00629498 = 1.3786 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 07:12:40 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 24 07:12:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.44022, Best ask: 18.47841, Bid-ask spread: 0.03819, Last trade: 18.44022, 24 hour volume: 75519.29148676, 24 hour low: 17.05000, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.99835
Jan 24 07:12:48 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hpric
Jan 24 07:12:49 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hpric" is not a valid command.
Jan 24 07:12:51 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 07:12:55 <gribble>	17.97
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Jan 24 07:13:13 <jurov>	;;bc,vwap
Jan 24 07:13:13 <gribble>	Error: "bc,vwap" is not a valid command.
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Jan 24 07:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.588 BTC [+]
Jan 24 07:35:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5874 @ 0.00061939 = 3.6383 BTC [-]
Jan 24 07:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 410 @ 0.00629498 = 2.5809 BTC [+]
Jan 24 07:37:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00633755 = 10.457 BTC [+]
Jan 24 07:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1234 @ 0.00633881 = 7.8221 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 07:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10338 @ 0.00062217 = 6.432 BTC [+]
Jan 24 07:42:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11540 @ 0.00062241 = 7.1826 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 07:52:11 <kakobreklaaa>	lol bitstamp http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
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Jan 24 07:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.588 = 6.468 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:00:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.58889999 = 5.889 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 08:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.589 = 5.89 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 08:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17060 @ 0.00062241 = 10.6183 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9140 @ 0.00062318 = 5.6959 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 08:09:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3175 @ 0.00062318 = 1.9786 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:09:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3575 @ 0.00062348 = 2.2289 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 08:10:16 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 08:10:18 <gribble>	18.00
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Jan 24 08:13:03 <deadweasek>	allo allo
Jan 24 08:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10125 @ 0.00062348 = 6.3127 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3286 @ 0.00062361 = 2.0492 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:15:42 <deadweasek>	;;asks 40
Jan 24 08:15:43 <gribble>	There are currently 44128.376 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 1010511.53039 USD in total.
Jan 24 08:15:59 <deadweasek>	;;ticker
Jan 24 08:15:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.48000, Best ask: 18.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 18.50000, 24 hour volume: 76763.96484102, 24 hour low: 17.10004, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 18.01526
Jan 24 08:17:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200N] 5 @ 0.19895192 = 0.9948 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:17:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1214 @ 0.00062361 = 0.7571 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:17:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14646 @ 0.00062363 = 9.1337 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 08:36:12 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 08:36:13 <gribble>	18.01
Jan 24 08:38:01 <deadweasek>	!!!
Jan 24 08:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6738 @ 0.00061939 = 4.1734 BTC [-]
Jan 24 08:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00061935 = 1.3626 BTC [-]
Jan 24 08:39:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14062 @ 0.00061112 = 8.5936 BTC [-]
Jan 24 08:44:31 <deadweasek>	;;bids 20
Jan 24 08:44:33 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 20.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 24 08:44:42 <deadweasek>	;;bids 18
Jan 24 08:44:43 <gribble>	There are currently 6778.2965 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 122876.220554 USD in total.
Jan 24 08:44:56 <jurov>	;;asks 20
Jan 24 08:44:58 <gribble>	There are currently 20896.425 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 406395.170917 USD in total.
Jan 24 08:45:09 <deadweasek>	;;asks 20
Jan 24 08:45:11 <gribble>	There are currently 20896.425 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 406395.170917 USD in total.
Jan 24 08:45:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00062362 = 6.2362 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9104 @ 0.00062363 = 5.6775 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:45:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13353 @ 0.00062412 = 8.3339 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00062431 = 8.0536 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:45:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4875 @ 0.00062453 = 3.0446 BTC [+]
Jan 24 08:48:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3284 @ 0.00061112 = 2.0069 BTC [-]
Jan 24 08:48:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8266 @ 0.00061072 = 5.0482 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 08:53:20 <deadweasek>	!help
Jan 24 08:53:21 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 24 08:53:22 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
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Jan 24 09:00:02 <thestringpuller>	is this sustainable?
Jan 24 09:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00626855 = 0.6269 BTC [-]
Jan 24 09:12:05 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 09:12:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.57001, Best ask: 18.59000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 18.59000, 24 hour volume: 78383.80738228, 24 hour low: 17.20000, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 18.05618
Jan 24 09:12:12 <thestringpuller>	omg
Jan 24 09:17:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00061527 = 5.7835 BTC [+]
Jan 24 09:17:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6987 @ 0.00062453 = 4.3636 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 09:24:21 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i summon thee from the depths!
Jan 24 09:24:25 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Jan 24 09:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00061072 = 6.8095 BTC [-]
Jan 24 09:26:36 <pigeons>	so what happened to matthew_'s "CREATE" asset? I don't see it on btct.co. Moderators nixed it?
Jan 24 09:27:04 <thestringpuller>	what was CREATE?
Jan 24 09:29:23 *	thepok (~thepok@068-112-109-134.csn.tu-chemnitz.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Jan 24 09:31:30 <thestringpuller>	;;seen Namworld
Jan 24 09:31:30 <gribble>	Namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 55 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <Namworld> Would definitly have caught lots of S.DICE
Jan 24 09:31:47 <pigeons>	thestringpuller: it was supposed to be somebody wanted to raise the money to buy a 3d printer via shares and had some wishful model of earning repayment
Jan 24 09:31:56 <pigeons>	I also don't see
Jan 24 09:32:03 <pigeons>	"COINURL-UPAGAIN" from ltc-global
Jan 24 09:32:41 <jcpham>	wishful
Jan 24 09:33:01 <jcpham>	spam my links for free coins yo
Jan 24 09:34:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 688 @ 0.00062453 = 0.4297 BTC [+]
Jan 24 09:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11268 @ 0.00062484 = 7.0407 BTC [+]
Jan 24 09:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28550 @ 0.00062491 = 17.8412 BTC [+]
Jan 24 09:34:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6794 @ 0.00062535 = 4.2486 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 09:36:43 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 24 09:36:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.53000000 / 0.56613659 / 0.58900000 (205 shares, 116.05800016 BTC), 7D: 0.48100000 / 0.54961742 / 0.62000000 (832 shares, 457.28168950 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.47150724 / 0.62000000 (4376 shares, 2063.31568948 BTC)
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Jan 24 09:38:46 <thestringpuller>	coinurl will continue to be bad
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Jan 24 09:39:05 <dasher>	Wotcha guys
Jan 24 09:39:18 <dasher>	Any ideas why this bet is still open? http://bitbet.us/bet/159/bitcoin-mtgox-18-00-before-march-1st-2013/
Jan 24 09:40:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1045 @ 0.00617711 = 6.4551 BTC [-]
Jan 24 09:44:43 <jcpham>	http://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2013/1/23/on-the-fringe-of-the-dominant-financial-world.html
Jan 24 09:44:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3311 @ 0.00061072 = 2.0221 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 09:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.98911 BTC [+]
Jan 24 09:54:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5141 @ 0.00062088 = 3.1919 BTC [+]
Jan 24 09:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 10:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14619 @ 0.0006225 = 9.1003 BTC [+]
Jan 24 10:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8731 @ 0.00062535 = 5.4599 BTC [+]
Jan 24 10:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 949 @ 0.00611028 = 5.7987 BTC [-]
Jan 24 10:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 151 @ 0.00608472 = 0.9188 BTC [-]
Jan 24 10:20:53 <markedathome>	pigeons: CREATE is Garr255, the cognitive guy
Jan 24 10:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9275 @ 0.00062535 = 5.8001 BTC [+]
Jan 24 10:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5655 @ 0.00062771 = 3.5497 BTC [+]
Jan 24 10:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3540 @ 0.00062088 = 2.1979 BTC [-]
Jan 24 10:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1809 @ 0.00061072 = 1.1048 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 10:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.6 = 21 BTC [+]
Jan 24 10:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.59 = 14.16 BTC [-]
Jan 24 10:39:49 <topace>	!ticker mp s.dice
Jan 24 10:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.00388862 / 0.00699 (580455 shares, 2,257.17 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00446314 / 0.00699 (960166 shares, 4,285.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00416201 / 0.00699 (10201064 shares, 42,456.94 BTC)
Jan 24 10:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-23/missing-114-billion-from-u-dot-s-dot-banks
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Jan 24 10:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	teh plot.
Jan 24 10:42:41 *	usagi (tsukino@dhcp41.signon1.fr.beevpn.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Jan 24 10:42:48 <usagi>	Hi :>
Jan 24 10:44:21 <jcpham>	 i have deposits piling up taking up space
Jan 24 10:44:28 <jcpham>	re: article
Jan 24 10:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasek dun worry, late bets will be simply refunded.
Jan 24 10:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham o ya ?
Jan 24 10:45:04 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 24 10:45:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.65001, Best ask: 18.72819, Bid-ask spread: 0.07818, Last trade: 18.75000, 24 hour volume: 80260.71643879, 24 hour low: 17.20270, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 18.09495
Jan 24 10:45:08 <jcpham>	gott aget it out of the bank account at some point in time
Jan 24 10:45:21 <Bugpowder>	18.75
Jan 24 10:45:44 <Bugpowder>	Also SP500 hits  1,501.33
Jan 24 10:46:06 <deadweasek>	wait, what?  I was reading that how bitcoin dies blog post.
Jan 24 10:46:08 <deadweasek>	what bet?
Jan 24 10:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder ya but how much is it in rmb
Jan 24 10:46:27 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 24 10:46:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.65001, Best ask: 18.69980, Bid-ask spread: 0.04979, Last trade: 18.75000, 24 hour volume: 80238.59030408, 24 hour low: 17.20270, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 18.09525
Jan 24 10:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasek sorry wrong guy.
Jan 24 10:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	dasher  Any ideas why this bet is still open?  << dun worry, late bets will be simply refunded.
Jan 24 10:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.59 = 15.34 BTC [-]
Jan 24 10:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 24 10:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.00388862 / 0.00699 (580455 shares, 2,257.17 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00446314 / 0.00699 (960166 shares, 4,285.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00416201 / 0.00699 (10201064 shares, 42,456.94 BTC)
Jan 24 10:47:30 <dasher>	Nope Mircea - the other one along the same lines has closed.. so _shrugs_
Jan 24 10:47:49 <dasher>	:rereads:
Jan 24 10:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	yea.
Jan 24 10:48:09 <dasher>	heh - just looking to reroll winnings into other bets :)
Jan 24 10:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	:)
Jan 24 10:48:59 <topace>	was quite the night for s.dice i see
Jan 24 10:49:04 <topace>	someone fuck up their order?
Jan 24 10:49:31 <topace>	do price|amount instead of amount|price
Jan 24 10:49:33 <topace>	?
Jan 24 10:50:49 <topace>	i benefited, i had 10000 bid at 0.52, whoop
Jan 24 10:51:08 <topace>	err 0.0052
Jan 24 10:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	that's what they suspect.
Jan 24 10:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/marketplace-excitement-with-expert-commentary-for-your-vicarious-trading-pleasure/ chatlog for posterity.
Jan 24 10:54:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 10:54:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.75000, Best ask: 18.79990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04990, Last trade: 18.79990, 24 hour volume: 79765.51885946, 24 hour low: 17.20270, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 18.11603
Jan 24 10:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	remarkably low volume on gox
Jan 24 10:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00062455 = 5.8708 BTC [+]
Jan 24 10:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00062683 = 0.3134 BTC [+]
Jan 24 10:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00061338 = 2.7295 BTC [-]
Jan 24 10:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00061072 = 2.1986 BTC [-]
Jan 24 10:58:03 <deadweasek>	idiot here -->  on the bitcoinity.org/markets site, do the green bid bars and red ask bars mean something more when they cross the midline?
Jan 24 10:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	just bid/ask volumes it would seem
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Jan 24 11:01:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2614 @ 0.00061072 = 1.5964 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:01:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17986 @ 0.00060917 = 10.9565 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:01:58 <deadweasek>	left Y axis goes from zero to 7000, right Y axis goes from 10k to -10k .... trying to sort that one out.  Left Y axis is volume, but the bars don't start at the bottom.
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Jan 24 11:03:20 <deadweasek>	bah, it's not like this market is predictable.
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Jan 24 11:06:20 <Bugpowder>	here we go
Jan 24 11:06:57 <deadweasek>	;;ticker
Jan 24 11:06:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.70381, Best ask: 18.83999, Bid-ask spread: 0.13618, Last trade: 18.84000, 24 hour volume: 78585.09866303, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 18.14858
Jan 24 11:07:36 <deadweasek>	what is a 24 hour vwap?
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Jan 24 11:10:36 <topace>	deadweasek: volume weighted average price
Jan 24 11:11:23 <deadweasek>	thnks
Jan 24 11:14:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 467 @ 0.00060917 = 0.2845 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3047 @ 0.0006084 = 1.8538 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12546 @ 0.00060745 = 7.6211 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 11:19:33 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder here we go what where ?
Jan 24 11:21:15 <Bugpowder>	up up and away?
Jan 24 11:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	o is it ?
Jan 24 11:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	derp. no it's not.
Jan 24 11:28:03 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 11:28:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.72801, Best ask: 18.78999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06198, Last trade: 18.72752, 24 hour volume: 78333.41354544, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.00000, 24 hour vwap: 18.15736
Jan 24 11:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	im suing Bugpowder for emotional distress because i was all hopeful and shit and he mislead my feelings
Jan 24 11:33:16 <deadweasek>	sue damages in BTC
Jan 24 11:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	no in zanzibar dollars.
Jan 24 11:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	btc is a ponzi
Jan 24 11:34:06 <pigeons>	http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-bitcoin-dies.html
Jan 24 11:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138259.msg1475828#msg1475828 Bugpowder may wanna tell 'em ? :D
Jan 24 11:34:45 <deadweasek>	how bitcoin dies -- i hope people get to the comments.
Jan 24 11:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1849 @ 0.00608472 = 11.2506 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1269 @ 0.00605027 = 7.6778 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:35:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3450 @ 0.00604854 = 20.8675 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	i had an exchange with the guy where he was explaining to me why mpex doesn't work
Jan 24 11:35:23 <mircea_popescu>	so maybe take it with a grain of salty brine.
Jan 24 11:36:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5515 @ 0.00062771 = 3.4618 BTC [+]
Jan 24 11:36:09 <jurov>	just reading trilema...so coinurl was sold, like, domain, code,everything... but without any btc balances? that's genial
Jan 24 11:36:29 <jurov>	i'm totally selling coinbr in such manner, anyone?
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Jan 24 11:36:58 <pigeons>	1 btc
Jan 24 11:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:38:19 <jurov>	nobody else?
Jan 24 11:40:02 <jurov>	1btc, bah. i'll rathher put it to bitmit
Jan 24 11:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	Dude, seriously, enough with this bullshit. Nobody cares about the US. Literally, nobody.
Jan 24 11:40:31 <mircea_popescu>	If tomorrow some douche in the colonies "unseals" - heh, aren't we uppity & pretentious all of a sudden, unsealing shit and whatnot - whatever the hell he pleases it's going to make the proverbial sound of the tree falling in the empty forest.
Jan 24 11:40:31 <mircea_popescu>	All this aside, if you ever get some Bitcoin together to put in the general vicinty of your disproportionately large mouth, you know where to buy the PUTs.
Jan 24 11:40:41 <mircea_popescu>	so the question is, does mr smartass buy the puts nao.
Jan 24 11:41:01 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol myeah. those doods are incredible, seriously.
Jan 24 11:41:19 <usagi>	The logic is sound: "You'll see instantly that, since all overnight holders of BTC are Jews, if there are no Jews the overnight price of BTC in USD is 0." (laughs)
Jan 24 11:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	that mclovin character was running memcached as a process from a memcache user and didn't then know what he's running.
Jan 24 11:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	or why "niothing happens". or why cpu is at 2% but the server crawls.
Jan 24 11:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.58 = 29 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:43:09 <jackmaninov>	;;ticker
Jan 24 11:43:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.01000, Best ask: 19.01098, Bid-ask spread: 0.00098, Last trade: 19.01000, 24 hour volume: 82712.54948507, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.01000, 24 hour vwap: 18.20757
Jan 24 11:43:28 <jackmaninov>	broke 19 bitches
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Jan 24 11:44:29 <mircea_popescu>	hey, 2nd time today.
Jan 24 11:44:45 <jackmaninov>	it managed to go above though
Jan 24 11:44:45 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: looks like coinurl will continue to suck
Jan 24 11:44:57 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 24 11:45:02 <thestringpuller>	and so another bubble forms
Jan 24 11:46:20 <mircea_popescu>	i just realised that mpex is actually likely to survive longer than the us federal government.
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Jan 24 11:47:24 <jurov>	^^^ eskimobob, you don't have anything to say about that??
Jan 24 11:47:36 <kakobrekla>	dasher, no, thanks for noticing
Jan 24 11:47:46 <deadweasek>	;;ticker
Jan 24 11:47:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.02240, Best ask: 19.03475, Bid-ask spread: 0.01235, Last trade: 19.02240, 24 hour volume: 82880.87173367, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.04000, 24 hour vwap: 18.21658
Jan 24 11:48:01 <deadweasek>	Shitsnacks, we're at 19
Jan 24 11:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun!
Jan 24 11:48:48 <dasher>	humm.. it's still open & accepting bets...
Jan 24 11:48:58 <deadweasek>	there must be some tech startup who just sold his company to google getting in on bitcoin.  Maybe he's gonna pump it up and dump it all?
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Jan 24 11:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	that's not really a +ev strategy
Jan 24 11:49:29 <kakobrekla>	dasher, it will be handled now and be late bets will be reveresd
Jan 24 11:49:35 <deadweasek>	i have a wild imagination.
Jan 24 11:49:52 <kakobrekla>	be = the
Jan 24 11:49:57 <kakobrekla>	close enough.
Jan 24 11:50:37 <Chilca>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 24 11:50:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.00390866 / 0.00699 (585823 shares, 2,289.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00447325 / 0.00699 (966234 shares, 4,322.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00416323 / 0.00699 (10207632 shares, 42,496.73 BTC)
Jan 24 11:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.575 = 2.875 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 11:52:19 <deadweasek>	::bids 19
Jan 24 11:52:24 <deadweasek>	;;bids 19
Jan 24 11:52:26 <gribble>	There are currently 8.2829881 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 157.738160861 USD in total.
Jan 24 11:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 24 11:52:45 <deadweasek>	:)
Jan 24 11:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.561 = 5.61 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:53:20 <deadweasek>	;;bids 18
Jan 24 11:53:22 <gribble>	There are currently 8588.2369 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 158032.392631 USD in total.
Jan 24 11:53:42 <deadweasek>	;;bids 18.5
Jan 24 11:53:44 <gribble>	There are currently 3632.5744 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.5 USD, worth 68002.9997632 USD in total.
Jan 24 11:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.56000001 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:55:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.56000001 = 2.8 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:55:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.516 = 3.096 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:55:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00062151 = 14.419 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:55:31 <pigeons>	basically lets copy the forbes article http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/01/bitcoin-based-casino-rakes-in-over-500000-profit-in-six-months/
Jan 24 11:55:40 <jcpham>	yeah
Jan 24 11:55:46 <jcpham>	then wired re-ran
Jan 24 11:55:56 <jcpham>	;;asks 99
Jan 24 11:55:58 <gribble>	There are currently 40126.935 bitcoins offered at or under 99.0 USD, worth 1137303.98882 USD in total.
Jan 24 11:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	so in the end what's the story with basic, did they refund or didn't they refund ?
Jan 24 11:57:14 <kakobrekla>	basic is dead
Jan 24 11:57:19 <kakobrekla>	returning the funds
Jan 24 11:58:01 <mircea_popescu>	a, so it's not done yet ? i had the notion from reading tom's drivel that it's 90% done three days ago
Jan 24 11:58:31 <kakobrekla>	done what?
Jan 24 11:58:48 <kakobrekla>	everyone is pulling their money out
Jan 24 11:58:55 <kakobrekla>	so they decided they wont go fwd with it
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Jan 24 11:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062151 = 3.7291 BTC [-]
Jan 24 11:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1090 @ 0.00062563 = 0.6819 BTC [+]
Jan 24 11:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	the refunds, done.
Jan 24 11:59:09 <kakobrekla>	and just return the money to whoever was left
Jan 24 11:59:16 <kakobrekla>	these take time apparently
Jan 24 11:59:59 <pigeons>	ok he erased the post where he was selling his fpga chips off
Jan 24 12:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 24 12:00:24 <kakobrekla>	https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=1048.0
Jan 24 12:00:30 <kakobrekla>	the only msg left on the whole forum
Jan 24 12:00:32 <mircea_popescu>	I have the list of BTC Refunds and should be making those today.
Jan 24 12:00:32 <mircea_popescu>	All other CC orders will automatically be refunded today.
Jan 24 12:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	this, to me at least, says refunds were done already
Jan 24 12:00:56 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Jan 24 12:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	anyway.
Jan 24 12:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138090.msg1475792#msg1475792
Jan 24 12:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	according to eskimoblob i run the entire world by now.
Jan 24 12:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, back to tom : "this forum will be locked from this point forward - if I need to tell you anything else I will post again otherwise you will not hear from me - your refund will come automatically and theres no reason for communication."
Jan 24 12:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Jan 24 12:02:23 <kakobrekla>	o o
Jan 24 12:02:30 <kakobrekla>	put me in charge of ministry of sillywalks pls
Jan 24 12:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 24 12:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	well, can you do a real silly walk ?
Jan 24 12:02:54 <kakobrekla>	let me demonstrate,
Jan 24 12:03:02 *	mircea_popescu lets
Jan 24 12:03:03 <kakobrekla>	i have been developing this walk since the high school
Jan 24 12:03:18 *	kakobrekla trumbles around and around
Jan 24 12:03:24 <kakobrekla>	what'd ya think'
Jan 24 12:03:45 <jcpham>	basic got chargeback'd
Jan 24 12:03:50 <mircea_popescu>	It's not particularly silly, is it? I mean, the right leg isn't silly at all and the left leg merely does a forward aerial half turn every alternate step.
Jan 24 12:03:55 <jcpham>	from my perspective
Jan 24 12:04:03 <jcpham>	fuck them and their payment processor
Jan 24 12:04:07 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu ;)))
Jan 24 12:04:13 <mircea_popescu>	who was their pp ? bitpayy ?
Jan 24 12:04:21 <jcpham>	cc
Jan 24 12:04:34 <jcpham>	i paid with 120 days of credit card window goodness
Jan 24 12:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	i srsly don't understand ppl trying to push bitcoin for retail.
Jan 24 12:04:57 <jcpham>	stupidiest idea ever
Jan 24 12:05:01 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... merchants are insured, customers get cb's.
Jan 24 12:05:08 <mircea_popescu>	whereas in bitcoin its INSANITY
Jan 24 12:05:29 <mircea_popescu>	i don't how how i'd sell a small merchant on taking btc. it makes no business sense at all.
Jan 24 12:05:31 <jcpham>	buying computer hardware, of all things
Jan 24 12:05:34 <jcpham>	with bitcoin
Jan 24 12:05:36 <jcpham>	smh
Jan 24 12:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	but hey, i prefer to think the retaul btc people just know shit better than me.
Jan 24 12:05:45 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 24 12:05:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.51600000 / 0.57404839 / 0.60000000 (372 shares, 213.54600022 BTC), 7D: 0.48100000 / 0.55883394 / 0.62000000 (866 shares, 483.95018966 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.47564628 / 0.62000000 (4544 shares, 2161.33668954 BTC)
Jan 24 12:05:57 <deadweasek>	what do you think the psychological reaction will be IF we hit 20?
Jan 24 12:06:06 <jcpham>	i get the idea of retail bitcoin
Jan 24 12:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasek forum spam increase +11
Jan 24 12:06:16 <jcpham>	but pre-ordering computer hardware with it
Jan 24 12:06:22 <jcpham>	bad idea
Jan 24 12:06:27 <deadweasek>	i'm sorry, what's that?
Jan 24 12:06:36 <deadweasek>	first time here, ya know
Jan 24 12:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham it's not really hardware in any way. it's more like verysoft ware.
Jan 24 12:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasek forum -> bitcointalk.org
Jan 24 12:06:53 <jcpham>	you are correct
Jan 24 12:07:03 <deadweasek>	i'll be quiet then.
Jan 24 12:07:07 <jcpham>	but it comes in  plastic case so we can call it hardware
Jan 24 12:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like brie cheeseware.
Jan 24 12:07:15 <jcpham>	moore's law should apply to it
Jan 24 12:07:27 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasek i just meant, the only effect of btc going over 20 will be a buncha people posting more on forum
Jan 24 12:07:40 <jcpham>	which means you shouldn't spend deflationary money on  thing governed by Moore
Jan 24 12:07:45 <deadweasek>	ah, i see.  thx
Jan 24 12:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham fanware ?
Jan 24 12:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	i think fanware is particularly appropriate.
Jan 24 12:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's a box of fans sold to a buncha fans.
Jan 24 12:08:12 <jcpham>	power supply ware
Jan 24 12:08:20 <jcpham>	fanware is good
Jan 24 12:08:22 <jcpham>	i like it
Jan 24 12:09:55 <Bugpowder>	I knew it!
Jan 24 12:10:02 <Bugpowder>	Went to lunch
Jan 24 12:10:05 <Bugpowder>	19.15
Jan 24 12:10:14 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 12:10:15 <gribble>	18.23
Jan 24 12:10:20 <Bugpowder>	come onnnnn
Jan 24 12:10:24 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder go to dinner quikcly.
Jan 24 12:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 24 12:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno if any of you know fantozzi
Jan 24 12:10:46 <mircea_popescu>	but he's this italian comedy guy. unfortunate accountant.
Jan 24 12:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	one time he goes on a trip with the megadirettore generale who's an invederate gambler
Jan 24 12:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	and ends up drinking galons of the world's most carbonated mineral water because the director guy thinks fantozzi has to keep doing what he was doing when the director got good cards. for hours.
Jan 24 12:11:44 <mircea_popescu>	so, bugpowder, EAT MAN
Jan 24 12:12:12 <jurov>	and let it better be sante fe rice !
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Jan 24 12:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	nah, bbq ribs
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Jan 24 12:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	so over 20 or not over 20 ?
Jan 24 12:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;asks 20
Jan 24 12:19:22 <gribble>	There are currently 12905.743 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 254721.219965 USD in total.
Jan 24 12:19:29 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu make a bet
Jan 24 12:19:38 <deadweasek>	where can I find a long list of all trades / price / volume that updates?
Jan 24 12:19:54 <deadweasek>	;;ticker
Jan 24 12:19:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.01879, Best ask: 19.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03121, Last trade: 19.01879, 24 hour volume: 87334.42598055, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.26906
Jan 24 12:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85687.msg1476190#msg1476190 you have your work cut out for you
Jan 24 12:26:45 <deadweasek>	;;bids 18.9
Jan 24 12:26:47 <gribble>	There are currently 114.58398 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.9 USD, worth 2168.8533383 USD in total.
Jan 24 12:27:06 <deadweasek>	;;asks 18.9
Jan 24 12:27:08 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 18.9 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 24 12:27:29 <deadweasek>	don't laugh, i'm learning
Jan 24 12:27:59 <assbot>	 we are all serial.
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Jan 24 12:30:53 <deadweasek>	;;asks 18.9
Jan 24 12:30:55 <gribble>	There are currently 9.7825458 bitcoins offered at or under 18.9 USD, worth 184.890114864 USD in total.
Jan 24 12:31:29 <deadweasek>	;;asks 19.5
Jan 24 12:31:31 <gribble>	There are currently 4182.6565 bitcoins offered at or under 19.5 USD, worth 80674.7192724 USD in total.
Jan 24 12:31:43 <deadweasek>	;;bids 18.5
Jan 24 12:31:45 <gribble>	There are currently 1948.0083 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.5 USD, worth 36316.6269025 USD in total.
Jan 24 12:32:06 <deadweasek>	;;ticker
Jan 24 12:32:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.69115, Best ask: 18.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00885, Last trade: 18.70000, 24 hour volume: 89489.10759434, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.28997
Jan 24 12:32:50 <deadweasek>	volume up 2.3k in 20 minutes
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Jan 24 12:36:58 <Bugpowder>	I should go back to lunch!
Jan 24 12:37:39 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,stats
Jan 24 12:37:41 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 217868 | Current Difficulty: 2968775.3320751 | Next Difficulty At Block: 219743 | Next Difficulty In: 1875 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 15 hours, 7 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3082762.10767147 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.83952178411
Jan 24 12:37:46 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 12:37:47 <gribble>	18.26
Jan 24 12:40:36 <deadweasek>	go to breakfast while you're at it
Jan 24 12:40:54 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 12:40:55 <gribble>	18.28
Jan 24 12:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+]
Jan 24 12:41:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
Jan 24 12:41:12 <Bugpowder>	the good news is that the selloff actually drives the 24hprc up
Jan 24 12:41:18 <Bugpowder>	we need trading volume
Jan 24 12:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.516 = 2.064 BTC [-]
Jan 24 12:42:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.515 BTC [-]
Jan 24 12:42:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.481 = 4.81 BTC [-]
Jan 24 12:42:06 <Bugpowder>	any trade that goes off over 24hprc I am happy with
Jan 24 12:42:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.48 = 3.84 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 12:42:53 <deadweasek>	what is the H in hprc?
Jan 24 12:43:23 <Bugpowder>	hour
Jan 24 12:43:27 <Bugpowder>	24hour price
Jan 24 12:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	hour
Jan 24 12:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	drat
Jan 24 12:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 12:43:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.29000, Best ask: 18.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 18.30000, 24 hour volume: 95033.95842525, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.30738
Jan 24 12:43:53 <mircea_popescu>	whoa wasn't it 19 ?!
Jan 24 12:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident smickles
Jan 24 12:44:08 <gribble>	Nick 'smickles', with hostmask 'smickles!~smickles@67.222.146.32', is not identified.
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Jan 24 12:44:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating smickles
Jan 24 12:44:14 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User smickles, rated since Wed Jan  4 18:28:52 2012. Cumulative rating 86, from 49 total ratings. Received ratings: 48 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 47 positive, 6 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=smickles
Jan 24 12:44:17 <Korbman>	it was bound to happen eventually
Jan 24 12:44:33 <Korbman>	I was expecting a $1 plummet the other day, but looks like today was the day instead
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Jan 24 12:45:16 <Korbman>	and now a wall is beginning to develop
Jan 24 12:46:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 12:46:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.31000, Best ask: 18.41000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 18.41000, 24 hour volume: 95812.05183024, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.30787
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Jan 24 12:46:31 <Bugpowder>	the guy that bot the C180,190,200s is feeling sad
Jan 24 12:46:55 <Bugpowder>	;calc 27000*.056
Jan 24 12:47:02 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 27000*.056
Jan 24 12:47:03 <gribble>	1512
Jan 24 12:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder if he overhedged yes. otherwise he's prolly going sigh of relief
Jan 24 12:48:07 <deadweasek>	volume up 10k in 20 minutes
Jan 24 12:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8492 @ 0.00062563 = 5.3128 BTC [+]
Jan 24 12:51:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0085 BTC [+]
Jan 24 12:52:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 220 @ 0.007 = 1.54 BTC [-]
Jan 24 12:52:57 <deadweasek>	;;ask 18;;ticker
Jan 24 12:52:57 <gribble>	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
Jan 24 12:53:00 <deadweasek>	;ticker
Jan 24 12:53:02 <deadweasek>	;;ticker
Jan 24 12:53:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.58724, Best ask: 18.60670, Bid-ask spread: 0.01946, Last trade: 18.61215, 24 hour volume: 98078.71436442, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.30869
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Jan 24 12:56:22 <Bugpowder>	rally on
Jan 24 12:56:49 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 24 12:56:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.62001, Best ask: 18.74899, Bid-ask spread: 0.12898, Last trade: 18.74899, 24 hour volume: 99276.17262119, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.31400
Jan 24 12:57:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.8076674 = 807.6674 BTC [-]
Jan 24 12:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 0.86253611 = 862.5361 BTC [-]
Jan 24 12:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.91740482 = 917.4048 BTC [-]
Jan 24 12:57:14 <thestringpuller>	lol good day to trade on gox
Jan 24 12:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Jan 24 12:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	we back on this programme ?!
Jan 24 12:57:38 <thestringpuller>	ha
Jan 24 13:00:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.48 = 1.44 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:00:20 <Bugpowder>	hey is the 2% mkopt fee on the deposit or the sale price?
Jan 24 13:01:07 <Chilca>	HI, I'm trying to understand how to install gribble, does anybody has experience?
Jan 24 13:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 900 @ 0.34565429 = 311.0889 BTC [+]
Jan 24 13:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	you mean install as in run the bot yourself on a vps ?
Jan 24 13:01:47 <Chilca>	yes.
Jan 24 13:01:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder sale price is unrelated
Jan 24 13:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca i never ran a bot. nanotube maintains gribble.
Jan 24 13:02:05 <Bugpowder>	so its 0.02 per contract?
Jan 24 13:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	for calls
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Jan 24 13:02:31 <Chilca>	I see that, and I'm looking into the source code now
Jan 24 13:02:48 <Chilca>	;;seen lautaro_
Jan 24 13:02:48 <gribble>	I have not seen lautaro_.
Jan 24 13:02:51 <Chilca>	;;seen lautaro
Jan 24 13:02:51 <gribble>	lautaro was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 10 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <lautaro> Could this explain the buying in S.DICE: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/ ?
Jan 24 13:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 440 @ 0.05560548 = 24.4664 BTC [+]
Jan 24 13:04:46 <deadweasek>	;;bids 18.5
Jan 24 13:04:48 <gribble>	There are currently 1738.429 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.5 USD, worth 32321.7429128 USD in total.
Jan 24 13:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4839 @ 0.00061831 = 2.992 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:05:03 <deadweasek>	;;asks 18.9
Jan 24 13:05:05 <gribble>	There are currently 209.75996 bitcoins offered at or under 18.9 USD, worth 3964.05008153 USD in total.
Jan 24 13:06:27 <deadweasek>	!help
Jan 24 13:06:27 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 24 13:06:28 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 24 13:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 48 @ 0.48 = 23.04 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:08:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 28 @ 0.05560548 = 1.557 BTC [+]
Jan 24 13:09:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 13:09:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.71106, Best ask: 18.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08894, Last trade: 18.80000, 24 hour volume: 100285.46180228, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.32253
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Jan 24 13:09:19 <Bugpowder>	protip : anyone that is sitting with lots of BTC in their account should probably sell short the C200Ts
Jan 24 13:09:30 <Bugpowder>	There is a bid @ 0.0556
Jan 24 13:09:54 <Bugpowder>	at these are 95% chance going to expire worthless
Jan 24 13:10:35 <Bugpowder>	Also the C190s
Jan 24 13:10:39 <Bugpowder>	I am tapped out
Jan 24 13:10:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol what if it blows up tomorrow ?
Jan 24 13:13:43 <Bugpowder>	tomorrow?
Jan 24 13:13:43 <Bugpowder>	WAIT A SECOND
Jan 24 13:13:58 <Bugpowder>	opex ex is in 28 hours?
Jan 24 13:14:00 <Bugpowder>	or 4 hours?
Jan 24 13:14:06 <Bugpowder>	facepalm
Jan 24 13:15:30 <Chilca>	!ticker
Jan 24 13:15:30 <assbot>	These beans is shit.
Jan 24 13:15:45 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 24 13:15:46 <Bugpowder>	shit
Jan 24 13:15:48 <Bugpowder>	hehe
Jan 24 13:15:55 <Chilca>	;;ticker
Jan 24 13:15:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.64001, Best ask: 18.72405, Bid-ask spread: 0.08404, Last trade: 18.72405, 24 hour volume: 100798.71042195, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.32833
Jan 24 13:16:12 <Bugpowder>	undo
Jan 24 13:16:16 <Bugpowder>	Ctrl Z
Jan 24 13:19:42 <thestringpuller>	ctrl z unix stlye
Jan 24 13:19:45 <thestringpuller>	stylr
Jan 24 13:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00062218 = 7.0306 BTC [+]
Jan 24 13:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5629 @ 0.00062563 = 3.5217 BTC [+]
Jan 24 13:23:11 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 35
Jan 24 13:23:13 <gribble>	There are currently 46311.125 bitcoins offered at or under 35.0 USD, worth 1175233.51427 USD in total.
Jan 24 13:23:17 <Bugpowder>	fuck it
Jan 24 13:23:21 <Bugpowder>	let it go to 35
Jan 24 13:23:30 <Bugpowder>	lets do this
Jan 24 13:23:55 <deadweasek>	i'm clapping my hands as fast as i can
Jan 24 13:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder end of friday.
Jan 24 13:25:55 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 24 13:25:58 <Bugpowder>	oh well
Jan 24 13:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	it's easy to tell, cause bot stops quoting in the last 24 hours
Jan 24 13:26:04 <Bugpowder>	I have hedged my hedge
Jan 24 13:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	lolwut ?
Jan 24 13:26:24 <Bugpowder>	I shorted the 200s
Jan 24 13:26:36 <Bugpowder>	I though it expires in 3.5 hours
Jan 24 13:26:48 <Bugpowder>	Plenty of long exposure though
Jan 24 13:26:56 <Bugpowder>	still
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Jan 24 13:29:13 <Namworld>	;;asks 20
Jan 24 13:29:14 <gribble>	There are currently 14737.674 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 289424.291591 USD in total.
Jan 24 13:29:28 <mircea_popescu>	a, i didn't see it ticker by
Jan 24 13:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 28 @ 0.05560548 = 1.557 BTC [+] < that ?
Jan 24 13:30:17 <Namworld>	Not sure people buying C200T calls are getting a good deal...
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Jan 24 13:31:04 <deadweasel>	which bot stopped quoting in last 24 hours?
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Jan 24 13:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel the mpoe bot.
Jan 24 13:32:34 <deadweasel>	thanks!
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Jan 24 13:34:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00598118 = 3.2896 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:35:12 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: could we negotiate a vps deal?
Jan 24 13:35:26 <thestringpuller>	also bitvps is ltc now not btc?
Jan 24 13:35:43 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 13:35:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.49451, Best ask: 18.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00549, Last trade: 18.50773, 24 hour volume: 101961.40270952, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.33730
Jan 24 13:36:18 <mircea_popescu>	anyone know what timezone mtgoxlive uses ?
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Jan 24 13:37:11 <deadweasel>	utc methinks
Jan 24 13:37:14 <thestringpuller>	new zealand i think
Jan 24 13:37:23 <deadweasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101325.0
Jan 24 13:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	ah ty
Jan 24 13:38:55 <deadweasel>	;;bids 18.5
Jan 24 13:38:56 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 24 13:39:07 <deadweasel>	;;bids 18
Jan 24 13:39:08 <gribble>	There are currently 7572.9213 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 137390.190975 USD in total.
Jan 24 13:39:31 <deadweasel>	;;asks 18.5
Jan 24 13:39:34 <gribble>	There are currently 3490.0446 bitcoins offered at or under 18.5 USD, worth 64216.8212472 USD in total.
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Jan 24 13:41:36 <deadweasel>	;;bids 18.2
Jan 24 13:41:37 <gribble>	There are currently 3130.1004 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.2 USD, worth 57108.4266494 USD in total.
Jan 24 13:41:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00062144 = 13.7338 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:41:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3911 @ 0.00061831 = 2.4182 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00061744 = 5.6187 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:41:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00061489 = 3.4434 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4789 @ 0.00061474 = 2.944 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:46:06 <nanotube>	;;whatis #supybot installguide
Jan 24 13:46:06 <gribble>	Here is a detailed guide for supybot installation: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gribble/index.php?title=Supybot_Install_Guide
Jan 24 13:46:08 <nanotube>	Chilca: ^
Jan 24 13:46:35 <Chilca>	nanotube: thanks!
Jan 24 13:47:51 <nanotube>	:)
Jan 24 13:50:33 <mod6>	sales
Jan 24 13:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4961 @ 0.00061474 = 3.0497 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:51:15 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Jan 24 13:51:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.75000, Best ask: 18.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45000, Last trade: 18.20000, 24 hour volume: 110245.87360784, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.32315
Jan 24 13:51:42 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 13:51:43 <gribble>	18.31
Jan 24 13:51:57 <mircea_popescu>	o, going down ?!
Jan 24 13:52:03 <kakobrekla>	2 bucks soon.
Jan 24 13:52:04 <Namworld>	thestringpuller: We still accept BitPay, or on request direct BTC payment
Jan 24 13:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	dude. literally. 17.75 is like max pain
Jan 24 13:52:08 <kakobrekla>	my bid is placed.
Jan 24 13:52:24 <mircea_popescu>	if btc closes on mpex max pain tomorrow it will be...
Jan 24 13:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Jan 24 13:52:26 <mod6>	6168 sold, now @ 17.85
Jan 24 13:52:57 <deadweasel>	i vunder vhat zee ruzzians vill do tonight?
Jan 24 13:53:08 <kakobrekla>	drink vodka.
Jan 24 13:53:15 <deadweasel>	clearly
Jan 24 13:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	mail order brides ?
Jan 24 13:54:05 <kakobrekla>	how much are those
Jan 24 13:54:10 <kakobrekla>	and can you get em for btc yet
Jan 24 13:54:20 <Namworld>	Max pain?
Jan 24 13:54:26 <deadweasel>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets
Jan 24 13:54:29 <deadweasel>	never seen lines like that
Jan 24 13:54:42 <Namworld>	The combination of puts/calls make 17.75 the worst price for BTC to end at?
Jan 24 13:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, like a used civic
Jan 24 13:55:02 <deadweasel>	;;bids 18
Jan 24 13:55:04 <gribble>	There are currently 2.7014995 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 49.0104492962 USD in total.
Jan 24 13:55:11 <deadweasel>	eww
Jan 24 13:55:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i haven't calced it exactly but i guess around the 17.8
Jan 24 13:55:44 <deadweasel>	;;asks 17.75
Jan 24 13:55:46 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 17.75 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 24 13:55:52 <deadweasel>	oops
Jan 24 13:56:04 <deadweasel>	;;asks 18
Jan 24 13:56:06 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 18.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 24 13:56:07 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Jan 24 13:56:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.80000, Best ask: 17.80212, Bid-ask spread: 0.00212, Last trade: 17.80212, 24 hour volume: 110717.50956619, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.32198
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Jan 24 13:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	it's fucken derped.
Jan 24 13:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15834 @ 0.0006144 = 9.7284 BTC [-]
Jan 24 13:58:42 <deadweasel>	we bounced of $16 similarly
Jan 24 13:58:46 <deadweasel>	of = off
Jan 24 13:58:56 <deadweasel>	and then back up
Jan 24 14:00:17 <Namworld>	Someone just sold a few thousands, nothing big
Jan 24 14:00:28 <Namworld>	You can see the line back up in price is very thin
Jan 24 14:00:34 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
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Jan 24 14:01:00 <Namworld>	I don't think it will end on "max pain"
Jan 24 14:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's decided, we're staying under 20.
Jan 24 14:01:13 <Namworld>	I bet it stays around 18-18.5
Jan 24 14:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Jan 24 14:01:24 <mod6>	im bullish
Jan 24 14:01:49 <Namworld>	More bids coming in...
Jan 24 14:01:58 <deadweasel>	those who sold at 13 and 15
Jan 24 14:02:03 <deadweasel>	?
Jan 24 14:03:05 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:03:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.00519, Best ask: 18.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00481, Last trade: 18.01000, 24 hour volume: 111696.06234082, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.31988
Jan 24 14:03:55 <deadweasel>	$2 spread today    wowza
Jan 24 14:08:35 <Namworld>	;;asks 19
Jan 24 14:08:37 <gribble>	There are currently 2802.5713 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 51995.2367015 USD in total.
Jan 24 14:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 24 14:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.00388776 / 0.00699 (580073 shares, 2,255.19 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00446834 / 0.00699 (963061 shares, 4,303.29 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00416332 / 0.00699 (10208182 shares, 42,500.02 BTC)
Jan 24 14:08:46 <Namworld>	;;bids 18
Jan 24 14:08:48 <gribble>	There are currently 924.42797 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 16639.9980641 USD in total.
Jan 24 14:09:01 <Namworld>	Yup, we're trending back toward 19
Jan 24 14:10:07 <deadweasel>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=sell%20bitcoin%2C%20buy%20bitcoin&cmpt=q
Jan 24 14:11:35 <Namworld>	I doubt that's conclusive of anything. Those who have bitcoins probably already know where to sell them.
Jan 24 14:11:47 <Namworld>	Whereas the bitcoinless might be clueless about where to buy them.
Jan 24 14:11:54 <kakobrekla>	at the place where they bought them :)
Jan 24 14:12:28 <Namworld>	usually, yeah
Jan 24 14:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00061531 = 5.6916 BTC [+]
Jan 24 14:13:35 <jcpham>	6:43 seems right
Jan 24 14:14:43 <deadweasel>	i just thought it was interesting.  graphs are pretty.  I'll be your blonde for the day.
Jan 24 14:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 24 14:14:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8589 @ 0.00062563 = 5.3735 BTC [+]
Jan 24 14:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3261 @ 0.00062594 = 2.0412 BTC [+]
Jan 24 14:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=sell%20bitcoin%2C%20buy%20bitcoin%2C%20trilema&cmpt=q
Jan 24 14:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	grin
Jan 24 14:16:36 <Namworld>	;;asks 20
Jan 24 14:16:40 <gribble>	There are currently 19030.797 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 368929.2886 USD in total.
Jan 24 14:16:47 <Namworld>	;;asks 35
Jan 24 14:16:49 <gribble>	There are currently 51898.3 bitcoins offered at or under 35.0 USD, worth 1279317.19633 USD in total.
Jan 24 14:17:04 <Namworld>	;;asks 30
Jan 24 14:17:07 <gribble>	There are currently 37989.235 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 836972.731819 USD in total.
Jan 24 14:17:28 <deadweasel>	not this, not that, or that one!
Jan 24 14:24:50 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:24:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.01111, Best ask: 18.08999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07888, Last trade: 18.09000, 24 hour volume: 114500.07664483, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.31550
Jan 24 14:25:16 <thestringpuller>	and now for the popping of the bubble
Jan 24 14:27:46 <EskimoBob_afk>	thestringpuller: how much did you make on that bubble?
Jan 24 14:28:14 <deadweasel>	guesses at plateau?
Jan 24 14:28:18 <thestringpuller>	0
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Jan 24 14:28:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13989 @ 0.00062594 = 8.7563 BTC [+]
Jan 24 14:29:10 <mod6>	5000 sold down to $17.32
Jan 24 14:29:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1000 @ 0.12701747 = 127.0175 BTC [+]
Jan 24 14:30:00 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:30:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.25500, Best ask: 17.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54500, Last trade: 17.80000, 24 hour volume: 120690.48492288, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.28021
Jan 24 14:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1000 @ 0.12558065 = 125.5807 BTC [-]
Jan 24 14:32:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 380 @ 0.11898031 = 45.2125 BTC [-]
Jan 24 14:34:04 <EskimoBob_afk>	I wonder how much we can thank that "shipping ASIC" news fart, for BTC jump.
Jan 24 14:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.06416795 = 64.168 BTC [-]
Jan 24 14:36:01 <deadweasel>	thestringpuller: really 0?
Jan 24 14:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.07074194 = 70.7419 BTC [+]
Jan 24 14:37:59 <Namworld>	Interesting... significant raise in asks
Jan 24 14:38:02 <Namworld>	;;asks 20
Jan 24 14:38:04 <gribble>	There are currently 28544.302 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 544085.645737 USD in total.
Jan 24 14:38:11 <deadweasel>	panic selling...
Jan 24 14:38:18 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:38:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.58265, Best ask: 17.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11735, Last trade: 17.70000, 24 hour volume: 121181.30061837, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.27707
Jan 24 14:38:38 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 14:38:40 <gribble>	18.29
Jan 24 14:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 620 @ 0.11898031 = 73.7678 BTC [-]
Jan 24 14:39:56 <thestringpuller>	yup panic sell
Jan 24 14:40:13 <Namworld>	;;asks 20
Jan 24 14:40:15 <gribble>	There are currently 33198.198 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 629272.33256 USD in total.
Jan 24 14:40:21 <Namworld>	and 5k more
Jan 24 14:40:33 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:40:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.35400, Best ask: 17.58265, Bid-ask spread: 0.22865, Last trade: 17.58265, 24 hour volume: 121527.61952533, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.27448
Jan 24 14:41:39 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:41:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.35000, Best ask: 17.58165, Bid-ask spread: 0.23165, Last trade: 17.58165, 24 hour volume: 121535.07032037, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.27443
Jan 24 14:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.0650654 = 65.0654 BTC [+]
Jan 24 14:41:56 <dub>	it is but a twitch
Jan 24 14:42:00 <thestringpuller>	23 cent spread...
Jan 24 14:42:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 834 @ 0.06972141 = 58.1477 BTC [-]
Jan 24 14:42:41 <Namworld>	;;asks 20
Jan 24 14:42:42 <gribble>	There are currently 33200.54 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 630008.064237 USD in total.
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Jan 24 14:43:31 <Chilca>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:43:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.45798, Best ask: 17.58165, Bid-ask spread: 0.12367, Last trade: 17.58165, 24 hour volume: 121465.95922053, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.27491
Jan 24 14:43:35 <dub>	goxlive working for anyone?
Jan 24 14:43:45 <thestringpuller>	nope
Jan 24 14:43:51 <kakobrekla>	moody is ok for me
Jan 24 14:43:52 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:43:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.55475, Best ask: 17.58165, Bid-ask spread: 0.02690, Last trade: 17.58165, 24 hour volume: 121466.86376050, 24 hour low: 17.25201, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.27491
Jan 24 14:44:14 <EskimoBob_afk>	thestringpuller: can you calm down now? :)
Jan 24 14:44:22 <dub>	moody is dropping the socket for me
Jan 24 14:44:28 <EskimoBob_afk>	you have nothing riding on this tiny bubble
Jan 24 14:44:41 <EskimoBob_afk>	mp that bot, if you really have to or even better
Jan 24 14:44:55 <EskimoBob_afk>	use http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxEUR.html
Jan 24 14:44:57 <mircea_popescu>	the soaplet ?
Jan 24 14:46:00 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob_afk: can you stop being afk kthcbai
Jan 24 14:46:05 <thestringpuller>	kthxbai*
Jan 24 14:46:10 <thestringpuller>	;)
Jan 24 14:46:17 <dub>	dude we want moar afk from him
Jan 24 14:46:23 <mod6>	haha
Jan 24 14:46:36 <Namworld>	Well anyway, I cashed out my calls.
Jan 24 14:46:56 <mod6>	the 16s 'eh
Jan 24 14:47:10 <Namworld>	The C170
Jan 24 14:47:14 <mod6>	ah
Jan 24 14:47:17 <Namworld>	It's swinging wildly and I'm not sure what direction it's going to take
Jan 24 14:47:22 <Namworld>	I made about 20%
Jan 24 14:47:27 <mod6>	heheh, nice
Jan 24 14:47:31 <Namworld>	eh =/
Jan 24 14:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 400 @ 0.12462015 = 49.8481 BTC [-]
Jan 24 14:48:08 <mod6>	i think it just needs to re-group and restack the bid side
Jan 24 14:48:14 <thestringpuller>	20% holy shit
Jan 24 14:48:50 <kakobrekla>	you should have seen 7 a week!
Jan 24 14:48:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 5 @ 0.01714312 = 0.0857 BTC [-]
Jan 24 14:49:02 <jcpham>	facepalm
Jan 24 14:49:37 <mod6>	lots more selling, dudes need to take some profits before next leg up i guess.
Jan 24 14:50:02 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:50:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.90000, Best ask: 17.04931, Bid-ask spread: 0.14931, Last trade: 17.04931, 24 hour volume: 128741.64517108, 24 hour low: 16.90000, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.20612
Jan 24 14:50:27 <mod6>	BTFD!
Jan 24 14:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 700 @ 0.06803599 = 47.6252 BTC [+]
Jan 24 14:51:05 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:51:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.90000, Best ask: 17.04931, Bid-ask spread: 0.14931, Last trade: 17.04931, 24 hour volume: 128662.61322857, 24 hour low: 16.90000, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.20661
Jan 24 14:51:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11411 @ 0.00062641 = 7.148 BTC [+]
Jan 24 14:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7089 @ 0.00062294 = 4.416 BTC [-]
Jan 24 14:51:23 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 14:51:24 <gribble>	18.21
Jan 24 14:51:28 <thestringpuller>	its crashing oh man buy some mpoe stock
Jan 24 14:51:32 <thestringpuller>	go bot go
Jan 24 14:51:39 <Namworld>	actually each time there's a raise in BTC price, it ends up with a few days where it skyrockets before falling wildly.
Jan 24 14:51:43 <dub>	rather than ticker every 9 seconds, you could join -markets or -rt
Jan 24 14:51:47 <kakobrekla>	heres a pro comment
Jan 24 14:51:48 <kakobrekla>	[20:51:08] Kyklos Trader: is that moron of s3052
Jan 24 14:51:48 <kakobrekla>	[20:51:13] Kyklos Trader: he probably sent a sell warning
Jan 24 14:51:48 <kakobrekla>	[20:51:18] Kyklos Trader: and all his stupid customers selling
Jan 24 14:52:08 <pentarh>	he didnt
Jan 24 14:52:10 <jcpham>	moar lines damnit!
Jan 24 14:52:13 <Namworld>	Although nothing says history will repeat itself...
Jan 24 14:52:33 <Namworld>	Who's the s3052 moron?
Jan 24 14:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	r2d2 v3.052
Jan 24 14:52:51 <deadweasel>	'analyst' selling 'analyses' on bitcointalk
Jan 24 14:53:10 <kakobrekla>	i do like that word, too.
Jan 24 14:53:13 <dub>	pied piper of speculation forum
Jan 24 14:53:18 <mod6>	oh, the guy with the charts for sale?
Jan 24 14:53:24 <mod6>	hmm
Jan 24 14:53:26 <deadweasel>	get your charts here!
Jan 24 14:53:31 <jcpham>	many many lines
Jan 24 14:53:32 <deadweasel>	2.5 btc a months!
Jan 24 14:53:32 <smickles>	iirc, he's big into EWT
Jan 24 14:53:35 <jcpham>	and arrows!
Jan 24 14:53:45 <dub>	jcpham: cocain is a helluva drug
Jan 24 14:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	it's not a drug, it's a sort of sugar.
Jan 24 14:54:06 <kakobrekla>	sugar is a drug
Jan 24 14:54:17 <smickles>	sugar is a poison!
Jan 24 14:54:19 <mircea_popescu>	well yes.
Jan 24 14:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	sugar is mah babeee
Jan 24 14:54:33 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:54:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.95000, Best ask: 17.04831, Bid-ask spread: 0.09831, Last trade: 16.95000, 24 hour volume: 128417.99846413, 24 hour low: 16.90000, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.20810
Jan 24 14:54:39 <Namworld>	and we're under 17...
Jan 24 14:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	lmao dudes with the tickering.
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Jan 24 14:54:58 <dub>	missed opportunity there!
Jan 24 14:55:14 <Namworld>	Damn Mr. officer, I didn't know!
Jan 24 14:55:37 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you are the ticker police now?
Jan 24 14:55:40 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 24 14:55:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.95000, Best ask: 17.03000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 17.03000, 24 hour volume: 128420.24466504, 24 hour low: 16.90000, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 18.20805
Jan 24 14:55:53 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 24 14:55:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.55930046 / 0.60000000 (436 shares, 243.85500031 BTC), 7D: 0.48000000 / 0.55210064 / 0.62000000 (916 shares, 505.72418966 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.47575697 / 0.62000000 (4618 shares, 2197.04568954 BTC)
Jan 24 14:56:04 <Namworld>	Okay, it would have worked a bit better if I had said under 16...
Jan 24 14:56:22 <dub>	inb4 $20
Jan 24 14:56:23 <Namworld>	I wasn't answering to mircea =/
Jan 24 14:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	ftr : #bitcoin-anal
Jan 24 14:57:05 <Bugpowder>	please crash
Jan 24 14:57:08 <Bugpowder>	pleash
Jan 24 14:57:09 <mod6>	hah
Jan 24 14:57:20 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i thought you had calls or w/e ?
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Jan 24 14:58:09 <Bugpowder>	I reversed
Jan 24 14:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Jan 24 14:58:17 <Bugpowder>	Sold calls for 50-80% gain
Jan 24 14:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	pretty solid.
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Jan 24 14:58:27 <Bugpowder>	now long puts
Jan 24 14:58:31 <Bugpowder>	3700 contracts
Jan 24 14:58:37 <Bugpowder>	let it rip
Jan 24 15:00:09 <smickles>	god dammit
Jan 24 15:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1728 @ 0.00062771 = 1.0847 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:00:27 <smickles>	my bot put in a sell@market right at the fucking peak
Jan 24 15:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00062933 = 8.6218 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3122 @ 0.00063031 = 1.9678 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:00:32 <smickles>	status:pending
Jan 24 15:01:11 <Namworld>	Give your bot a cookie
Jan 24 15:01:26 <dub>	I think the little gox engine that could, in fact couldnt
Jan 24 15:01:52 <smickles>	ah, result: 16.9
Jan 24 15:02:00 <smickles>	sonofabitch
Jan 24 15:02:07 <mod6>	:/
Jan 24 15:02:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.06897496 = 68.975 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:02:21 <smickles>	fuck you gox
Jan 24 15:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	um
Jan 24 15:02:39 <Bugpowder>	16.9 is a nice price
Jan 24 15:02:43 <Bugpowder>	its going much lower
Jan 24 15:03:17 <smickles>	Bugpowder: but it sold when there were bids at ~19.19
Jan 24 15:03:25 <Bugpowder>	who
Jan 24 15:03:26 <Bugpowder>	whoa
Jan 24 15:03:29 <Bugpowder>	sux
Jan 24 15:04:59 <Namworld>	Why does BTC price always slowly walk up to the cliff then do a a rocket launch before diving into the ocean?
Jan 24 15:05:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15561 @ 0.00062294 = 9.6936 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116 @ 0.00061531 = 0.0714 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6323 @ 0.00061382 = 3.8812 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:05:24 <deadweasel>	swam dive
Jan 24 15:05:26 <deadweasel>	swan
Jan 24 15:05:34 <mod6>	it builds and builds, and then just about every time someone comes in and flushes about 100,000 to take profits
Jan 24 15:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7878 @ 0.00063031 = 4.9656 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11648 @ 0.0006308 = 7.3476 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:06:06 <jcpham>	cha-ching 100k
Jan 24 15:06:08 <Namworld>	what mod6 said
Jan 24 15:06:10 <jcpham>	cha-ching 100k
Jan 24 15:06:22 <Namworld>	It looks like that, seriously
Jan 24 15:06:41 <deadweasel>	is it actually possible to know it's a single person?
Jan 24 15:06:55 <mod6>	its hard to say. im sure its not though.
Jan 24 15:06:56 <deadweasel>	i would tend to agree, but I just assume.
Jan 24 15:07:24 <deadweasel>	feels like some rich mofos have their hands in it now.
Jan 24 15:07:56 <deadweasel>	course i have no skills so I just trade on feelings
Jan 24 15:07:57 <thestringpuller>	they do
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Jan 24 15:08:06 <deadweasel>	feeeeeeelings, nothing but feeeeeeelings
Jan 24 15:08:11 <mod6>	haha
Jan 24 15:08:20 <Namworld>	the BTC market is probably being played...
Jan 24 15:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	lmao all those short puts ouch.
Jan 24 15:08:37 <Namworld>	for those who get paid for service and immediatly cash out tho, no problem
Jan 24 15:08:51 <Namworld>	price can fluctuate
Jan 24 15:08:54 <mod6>	maybe so... but someday these $4-6 swings won't be as meaningful. think of the gold price, moves up and down sometimes $100 per day.
Jan 24 15:09:19 <deadweasel>	that's true.
Jan 24 15:09:32 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 24 15:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 0.99330402 = 993.304 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 1.06037384 = 1060.3738 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 1.12744366 = 1127.4437 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	um
Jan 24 15:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol speaking of
Jan 24 15:09:48 <mod6>	haha *shrug*
Jan 24 15:10:00 <Bugpowder>	hahaha
Jan 24 15:10:05 <Bugpowder>	cover that shit
Jan 24 15:10:14 <jcpham>	buyers at 19 crying in -otc
Jan 24 15:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	ok so guy bought for what, like 900ish, covering for 1kish, that's 100 btc each line for mpoe
Jan 24 15:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	100x 27 = 2.7k
Jan 24 15:10:25 <Bugpowder>	cover the 27000 contracts of exposure
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Jan 24 15:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it did not work as planned.
Jan 24 15:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder in the end i think it was 30k actually.
Jan 24 15:11:07 <Bugpowder>	nice
Jan 24 15:11:20 <Bugpowder>	$10 is in play
Jan 24 15:11:25 <mod6>	he would have been dancing if the price had shot to $50 though
Jan 24 15:11:27 <Namworld>	Well looks like a good month for MPOE coming up in the end
Jan 24 15:11:34 <Namworld>	Although who knows
Jan 24 15:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	let everyone know : adding more options is serving your shareholders.
Jan 24 15:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 anything over 30ish really, yeah. free 30k btc
Jan 24 15:11:54 <Namworld>	Well the options are well priced...
Jan 24 15:12:02 <Namworld>	For risk
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Jan 24 15:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld it was ahead a coupla k's, prolly like >5k this month.
Jan 24 15:12:26 <Namworld>	When I trade them, I wait for high volatility and trade them live and stick around.
Jan 24 15:12:54 <Namworld>	Because current trading is often 1-2 USD different than average and average moves fast
Jan 24 15:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 1.0006288 = 1000.6288 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 1.06792058 = 1067.9206 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 1.13521236 = 1135.2124 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:13:18 <dub>	<DeLorean731> it's like there's another pirate scheme or something d:
Jan 24 15:13:20 <dub>	lol
Jan 24 15:13:26 <Bugpowder>	last time 15.5 to 7.8
Jan 24 15:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol plus 30 x 60ish btc, so another 1800 there
Jan 24 15:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	bois an' gals, this month mpoe might be over 10k
Jan 24 15:14:01 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 24 15:14:04 <Bugpowder>	I'm taking some of it
Jan 24 15:14:05 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 24 15:14:24 <mircea_popescu>	no cause after this guy covers it goes to 22
Jan 24 15:14:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 816 @ 0.07206487 = 58.8049 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:14:56 <Bugpowder>	heheheh
Jan 24 15:14:56 <mod6>	haha, maybe so
Jan 24 15:15:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1 @ 0.01966399 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:15:33 <Namworld>	;;asks 16
Jan 24 15:15:35 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 16.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 24 15:15:41 <Namworld>	;;bids 16
Jan 24 15:15:42 <gribble>	There are currently 6592.124 bitcoins demanded at or over 16.0 USD, worth 106482.868699 USD in total.
Jan 24 15:15:43 <Namworld>	I mean
Jan 24 15:15:52 <dub>	I think bitcoiners are actually goldfish
Jan 24 15:15:53 <Bugpowder>	$10
Jan 24 15:16:00 <Bugpowder>	be ready
Jan 24 15:16:13 <Namworld>	woohoo... I want me some cheap bitcoins!
Jan 24 15:16:15 <smickles>	;;bids 10
Jan 24 15:16:17 <gribble>	There are currently 81945.176 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 1077575.27046 USD in total.
Jan 24 15:16:23 <Namworld>	Going to buy them all
Jan 24 15:16:46 <mod6>	you better believe that if it hits $10, i'll be running to the store to get MPs
Jan 24 15:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.464 = 4.64 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:17:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.464 = 1.392 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:17:13 <mod6>	0 degrees or not! lol
Jan 24 15:18:00 <mod6>	srsly, running.
Jan 24 15:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.463 = 4.167 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29571 @ 0.0006308 = 18.6534 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9321 @ 0.00063116 = 5.883 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0006332 = 3.166 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5758 @ 0.00063393 = 3.6502 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17627 @ 0.00063554 = 11.2027 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0006363 = 3.1815 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00063696 = 8.5353 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32468 @ 0.00063718 = 20.688 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52038 @ 0.00064091 = 33.3517 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00064327 = 3.8918 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00064454 = 2.4815 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00067924 = 3.3283 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00067925 = 5.2982 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:26 <Namworld>	S.MPOE going up good
Jan 24 15:18:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.0006796 = 2.1747 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00067997 = 13.5994 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:29 <jurov>	yeeeeeeeeeehaw
Jan 24 15:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00067998 = 6.1198 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40500 @ 0.00067999 = 27.5396 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 334517 @ 0.00068 = 227.4716 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 24 15:18:59 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg60zczsg2012-08-18zeg2012-08-20ztgSzm1g10zm2g25
Jan 24 15:19:05 <Bugpowder>	Remember what happened last time
Jan 24 15:19:23 <mod6>	yup
Jan 24 15:19:38 <mod6>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg30zig2-hourztgSzbgBza1gTMAzm1g10za2gTMAzm2g200zi1gMACDzi2gWilliamRzi3gCMFzi4gCVolatilityzv
Jan 24 15:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.463 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:20:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.4625 = 3.7 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:20:07 <mod6>	maybe i'll touch 200DMA and go back...
Jan 24 15:20:29 <mod6>	*it'll
Jan 24 15:20:29 <Bugpowder>	seems a reasonable target
Jan 24 15:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	doubt it.
Jan 24 15:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 1.00308118 = 1003.0812 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 1.07044727 = 1070.4473 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 1.13781337 = 1137.8134 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:21:16 <Bugpowder>	ouch
Jan 24 15:21:19 <Bugpowder>	ouuuuuuch
Jan 24 15:21:45 <Namworld>	The person who sold tons of put is going to hurt...
Jan 24 15:21:49 <Bugpowder>	he better cover before the bot turns off
Jan 24 15:21:58 <Bugpowder>	Namworld thats what you are watching
Jan 24 15:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	still a few hours
Jan 24 15:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.06147599 = 61.476 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:24:29 <Namworld>	A few hours?
Jan 24 15:24:47 <mod6>	options expiration -- end of month, bot closes
Jan 24 15:24:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.02486174 = 24.8617 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:25:04 <mircea_popescu>	no quotes 24 hours before option expiration
Jan 24 15:25:12 <Namworld>	ah yeah
Jan 24 15:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	still, market is very fragile.
Jan 24 15:26:38 <mircea_popescu>	what broke it was what, a 10k sale ? pff, that's what, nothing.
Jan 24 15:26:46 <mod6>	yeah
Jan 24 15:27:03 <dub>	someone trying to get some more cheap
Jan 24 15:27:28 <Namworld>	Hence why I said, break it
Jan 24 15:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1 @ 0.02000254 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:27:43 <Namworld>	After all those puts/calls were sold/bought
Jan 24 15:27:54 <Namworld>	You have the money for that...
Jan 24 15:28:04 <smickles>	well, the theory of my bot seems to be perfect, it bought in at 13.9ish, tried to sell at 19.19
Jan 24 15:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	meh
Jan 24 15:28:44 <Bugpowder>	oh god yes
Jan 24 15:28:57 <mod6>	someone is back in for 3k @ 15.75
Jan 24 15:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	aww at this rate i won't be worth 10mn anymore ;/
Jan 24 15:29:25 <mod6>	or maybe 5000, 3000 remain on the bidside
Jan 24 15:29:36 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Jan 24 15:29:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 15.95000, Best ask: 16.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 16.20000, 24 hour volume: 146598.15832893, 24 hour low: 15.75210, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 17.97952
Jan 24 15:29:43 <Namworld>	under 16!
Jan 24 15:29:47 <pizzaman1337>	wow
Jan 24 15:29:53 <pizzaman1337>	this is fun! :D
Jan 24 15:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.02233941 = 22.3394 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 1.01666667 = 1016.6667 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 1.08444445 = 1084.4445 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:30:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 1.15222223 = 1152.2222 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4625 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.44 = 1.32 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:33:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.05729813 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:33:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 999 @ 0.05572223 = 55.6665 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 15:34:32 <Namworld>	MtGox is having a hard time keeping up
Jan 24 15:34:35 <Namworld>	Slowing down
Jan 24 15:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	bottom at 15.7 or so
Jan 24 15:38:49 <Bugpowder>	if I hadn't reversed positions
Jan 24 15:38:55 <Bugpowder>	my ass would be so fucked
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Jan 24 15:40:03 <smickles>	it's taking a few minutes to get order results
Jan 24 15:40:13 <smickles>	(on gox)
Jan 24 15:40:28 <deadweasel>	did you write your own bot or is there an open source one?
Jan 24 15:40:35 <smickles>	it's my own code
Jan 24 15:40:40 <dub>	heh goxline just randomly loaded for the first time today
Jan 24 15:40:47 <Namworld>	Wall at 16 forming (on the ask side!)
Jan 24 15:40:47 <deadweasel>	nicely done.
Jan 24 15:40:57 <dub>	with the greenline covering the 1 in 15, did a double take
Jan 24 15:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder think about the guy with the puts lol.
Jan 24 15:41:18 <dub>	5.78 wat
Jan 24 15:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 1.02164811 = 1021.6481 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:41:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 1.08957684 = 1089.5768 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:41:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 1.15750557 = 1157.5056 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:41:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.02132762 = 21.3276 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.05361248 = 53.6125 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:42:18 <deadweasel>	is there such thing as an open source bot for trading?
Jan 24 15:42:34 <smickles>	deadweasel: ya, there are a couple of old ones, iirc
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Jan 24 15:43:02 <smickles>	also, one of the first bots i made may as well be open source
Jan 24 15:43:38 <smickles>	the guy who was selling it for me ended up cheating me out of btc from sales, and also started giving to code away
Jan 24 15:44:10 <smickles>	ask that inba guy from bfl or rg, they should have a copy of it
Jan 24 15:44:23 <smickles>	ugly ugly java
Jan 24 15:44:44 <dub>	how much for your new one? :)
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Jan 24 15:45:29 <deadweasel>	yeah, smickles, you selling?
Jan 24 15:45:31 <deadweasel>	:)
Jan 24 15:46:06 <deadweasel>	here's one, maybe:  http://code.google.com/p/ga-bitbot/wiki/QuickStartGuide
Jan 24 15:47:09 <smickles>	this bot is probably not ready for prime time, and i'm working on something else right now
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Jan 24 15:49:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5907 @ 0.00066289 = 3.9157 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:49:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19289 @ 0.00065263 = 12.5886 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2604 @ 0.00064913 = 1.6903 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:50:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 7 @ 0.00950861 = 0.0666 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 1.0279062 = 1027.9062 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 1.09602457 = 1096.0246 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 1.16414294 = 1164.1429 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:51:18 <smickles>	lol, buying calls for 666
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Jan 24 15:51:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.05096204 = 50.962 BTC [-]
Jan 24 15:52:10 <Namworld>	The Devil has spoken!
Jan 24 15:52:14 <Namworld>	Buy calls!
Jan 24 15:52:21 <Namworld>	You've been warned!
Jan 24 15:52:26 <Namworld>	=P
Jan 24 15:52:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 993 @ 0.02012899 = 19.9881 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:53:26 <jurov>	didn't mircea ran out of funds yest? or someone else is selling?
Jan 24 15:53:41 <jurov>	the devil? >:D
Jan 24 15:53:41 <Namworld>	He unran out of funds?
Jan 24 15:53:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00067999 = 13.5998 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:53:52 <smickles>	jurov: the devil bought tho
Jan 24 15:53:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9222340 @ 0.00068 = 6271.1912 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:53:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00068773 = 13.2732 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:53:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00068976 = 5.8974 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 15:53:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 729810 @ 0.0007 = 510.867 BTC [+]
Jan 24 15:54:07 <mod6>	wow
Jan 24 15:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	oooo
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Jan 24 15:54:15 <jurov>	my god
Jan 24 15:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	dude today is like 0.0
Jan 24 15:54:35 <jurov>	we know nao where mircea got funds
Jan 24 15:55:04 <mircea_popescu>	in the past 18 or so hours mpex traded like 70k btc
Jan 24 15:55:09 <mircea_popescu>	this is about as much as mtgox.
Jan 24 15:55:17 <mod6>	nice!
Jan 24 15:55:27 <Namworld>	mkay...
Jan 24 15:55:38 <Namworld>	looks like it's always safest betting on the house
Jan 24 15:55:41 <mircea_popescu>	and i guess the puts aren't done unwinding either
Jan 24 15:55:45 <Namworld>	(MPOE/DICE)
Jan 24 15:56:00 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 24 15:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00059613 / 0.00067017 / 0.0007 (12528519 shares, 8,396.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065297 / 0.0007 (23984391 shares, 15,661.25 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065046 / 0.0007 (51436785 shares, 33,457.73 BTC)
Jan 24 15:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	sooo this 7k...
Jan 24 15:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	should i sell it ?
Jan 24 15:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	send it to s.dice ?
Jan 24 15:57:41 <mircea_popescu>	maybe donate it to foundation ?
Jan 24 15:57:43 <mircea_popescu>	loller
Jan 24 15:57:45 <mod6>	hahaha
Jan 24 15:58:23 <thestringpuller>	donate to foundation
Jan 24 15:58:28 <mod6>	omg no
Jan 24 15:58:38 <thestringpuller>	whoa .0007 wtf
Jan 24 15:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	i think i'll buy eleventy fanboxes
Jan 24 15:58:39 <Namworld>	You should donate it my way, of course. The hookers & blows foundation.
Jan 24 15:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	hookers and blows lol
Jan 24 15:59:02 <smickles>	lol, send it to the NoAgenda guys
Jan 24 15:59:02 <mod6>	lol
Jan 24 15:59:05 <dub>	is it time for http://cat-bounce.com/ yet?
Jan 24 15:59:06 <thestringpuller>	smickles
Jan 24 15:59:17 <Namworld>	It's the best foundation ever
Jan 24 15:59:20 <jurov>	bah. just play sdice
Jan 24 15:59:26 <Namworld>	according to reviews by myself.
Jan 24 15:59:35 <smickles>	yeah, all on the least likely winner
Jan 24 16:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	smickles if he took a 7k bet
Jan 24 16:00:04 <mircea_popescu>	i might :D
Jan 24 16:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	"mpex owner sells 7k btc worth of shares, puts it all on < 1000, wins, drives s.dice out of business. s,mpoe shares collapse. win."
Jan 24 16:01:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 64000*7000
Jan 24 16:01:07 <gribble>	448000000
Jan 24 16:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	look ma, only 20 times more than total bitcoins
Jan 24 16:01:49 <smickles>	lol
Jan 24 16:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 1.03041923 = 1030.4192 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:01:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 1.09861376 = 1098.6138 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 1.16680828 = 1166.8083 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:02:01 <smickles>	this guy again
Jan 24 16:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	this poor guy, doing the cover walk of shamwe
Jan 24 16:02:13 <mod6>	yeah
Jan 24 16:02:14 <mod6>	:/
Jan 24 16:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.01961092 = 19.6109 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:02:37 <jurov>	loool maybe the guys who bought MPBPT at 120% base value knew something
Jan 24 16:02:47 <smickles>	haha
Jan 24 16:03:10 <jcpham>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alc0gG0u48M
Jan 24 16:03:22 <mircea_popescu>	has this been liek the most exciting day of the year ?
Jan 24 16:03:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.04989771 = 49.8977 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:03:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 24 16:03:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.55000, Best ask: 16.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 16.75000, 24 hour volume: 155025.93930585, 24 hour low: 15.61010, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 17.86152
Jan 24 16:05:28 <Namworld>	So far, most exciting day of the year
Jan 24 16:06:44 <thestringpuller>	finally stable
Jan 24 16:06:44 <dub>	all 25 days of it
Jan 24 16:06:49 <dub>	hahah
Jan 24 16:07:34 <kakobrekla>	22:06.42 ( thestringpuller ) finally stable <- 12 minutes after major drop lol
Jan 24 16:07:43 <Namworld>	nah... it just stopped for a few minutes...
Jan 24 16:07:48 <Namworld>	Who knows what's next
Jan 24 16:07:49 <dub>	this is actually -otc
Jan 24 16:08:03 <kakobrekla>	dub :(
Jan 24 16:08:03 <dub>	any movement at all is either a rally or crash
Jan 24 16:08:04 <Namworld>	asks are raising
Jan 24 16:08:04 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: my price spec was set at 16.32
Jan 24 16:08:20 <Namworld>	dub: of course
Jan 24 16:08:38 <Namworld>	the rally or crash of some guy with a small wallet
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Jan 24 16:09:07 <jurov>	something small to unwind: http://www.businessinsider.com/eric-schmidt-wrote-the-most-hilariously-self-defeating-email-you-will-ever-read-2013-1
Jan 24 16:09:19 <smickles>	lol, what would -otc look like if your total btc worth was in place of your nick
Jan 24 16:09:19 <dub>	well yeah, when mom gives you $5/week pocket money
Jan 24 16:09:49 <kakobrekla>	i get 6$
Jan 24 16:09:49 <smickles>	or better yet, the forum
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Jan 24 16:10:11 <dub>	kakobrekla: I get $10 but I have to mow the lawn and take out hte trash
Jan 24 16:10:22 <dub>	and tidy my room every day
Jan 24 16:10:25 <dub>	:(
Jan 24 16:10:33 <kakobrekla>	oh, that way over the 4$ difference
Jan 24 16:10:46 <smickles>	btw, did anyone else notice the guy wondering what was up with his SD bet,
Jan 24 16:10:53 *	jurov is now known as jurov_3720
Jan 24 16:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 1.03293789 = 1032.9379 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:11:04 <smickles>	he bet the minimum amount
Jan 24 16:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 1.10120873 = 1101.2087 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 1.16947958 = 1169.4796 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:11:08 <jurov_3720>	ugly... and would need to be changed often
Jan 24 16:11:12 <smickles>	gave a .0001 fee
Jan 24 16:11:14 *	jurov_3720 is now known as jurov
Jan 24 16:11:31 <smickles>	and complained that it didn't get confirmed quickly
Jan 24 16:11:46 <smickles>	peeps said he should've used a .0005 fee
Jan 24 16:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.01910662 = 19.1066 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:11:53 <smickles>	he said that he couldn't afford it
Jan 24 16:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.04883101 = 48.831 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 24 16:12:33 <smickles>	Who can afford the electricity of running a computer, or the cost of traveling to the library to a public computer and can't afford 0.0005 btc?
Jan 24 16:12:39 <dub>	dude sold his baseball cards to buy that bet
Jan 24 16:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	did he lose ?
Jan 24 16:13:40 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i hope so
Jan 24 16:13:51 <mircea_popescu>	soo... chick bought me slippers. they have a tag.
Jan 24 16:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	it says
Jan 24 16:13:53 <smickles>	last that I read, it hadn't processed on SD yet
Jan 24 16:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	FARTEX
Jan 24 16:13:55 <mircea_popescu>	collection
Jan 24 16:13:59 <dub>	lol
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Jan 24 16:14:05 <smickles>	fart-ex?
Jan 24 16:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	just fartex
Jan 24 16:14:30 <smickles>	this must not be an english speaking company
Jan 24 16:14:32 <kakobrekla>	pic
Jan 24 16:14:44 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you pay .1 btc for pic of my fartex ?
Jan 24 16:14:45 <dub>	pic of slipper on head
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Jan 24 16:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	dub was gonna do on butt.
Jan 24 16:14:56 <dub>	(not that head)
Jan 24 16:15:02 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Jan 24 16:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	course a few days ago i saw a perfume named
Jan 24 16:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	B.O.
Jan 24 16:15:34 <dub>	mircea_popescu: make it 0.000001 and you've got a deal
Jan 24 16:16:00 <dub>	its all I can afoord after buying in at 19.19
Jan 24 16:16:11 <kakobrekla>	yeah i cant afford that too
Jan 24 16:16:33 <kakobrekla>	with 6bucks a month
Jan 24 16:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	buncha bums why don't you get a jewb
Jan 24 16:16:40 <kakobrekla>	like half a coin
Jan 24 16:16:54 <kakobrekla>	i do have job,
Jan 24 16:17:00 <kakobrekla>	selling slipper pic on the net
Jan 24 16:17:02 <kakobrekla>	but noone buys
Jan 24 16:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	cause they're not fartex enough
Jan 24 16:17:34 <kakobrekla>	o, so you have many sales?
Jan 24 16:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134986.0 thread of win
Jan 24 16:18:05 <kakobrekla>	if so, someone must have leaked the pics on the torrents
Jan 24 16:18:18 <dub>	you know fart porn exists right?
Jan 24 16:18:33 <kakobrekla>	doesnt <anything> porn exist?
Jan 24 16:18:43 <dub>	well yes
Jan 24 16:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	dub actyally a few years ago some dood was sent to jale
Jan 24 16:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	because he and a coworker (female) played around with compressed air
Jan 24 16:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	by means of inserting the hose in her hole
Jan 24 16:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	and she died of it.
Jan 24 16:19:15 <dub>	ouch
Jan 24 16:19:19 <smickles>	Why do people think that glbse has given out all shareholder info?
Jan 24 16:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	exploded colon
Jan 24 16:19:27 <pigeons>	http://www.tofugu.com/2012/02/18/japanese-fart-scrolls/
Jan 24 16:19:34 <mircea_popescu>	smickles through sheer mental exhaustion ?
Jan 24 16:20:37 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118354.msg1476511#msg1476511 otherwise bunches of people complaining
Jan 24 16:22:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 1.03546219 = 1035.4622 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 1.10380953 = 1103.8095 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 1.17215687 = 1172.1569 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:23:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.0006537 = 3.5954 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.01860172 = 18.6017 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 16:24:09 <dub>	[16:19] <smickles> Why do people think that glbse has given out all shareholder info?
Jan 24 16:24:13 <dub>	[16:19] <mircea_popescu> exploded colon
Jan 24 16:24:16 <dub>	best out of context answer of the day
Jan 24 16:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	>D
Jan 24 16:24:51 <thestringpuller>	death by exploded colon
Jan 24 16:24:51 <mod6>	haha
Jan 24 16:25:00 <thestringpuller>	threaten someone with that
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Jan 24 16:25:12 <jcpham>	compressed air on the skin is bad ju-ju
Jan 24 16:25:17 <jcpham>	let alone vaginal
Jan 24 16:25:28 <JWU_42>	what a ride on gox today
Jan 24 16:25:33 <jcpham>	my sho class teacher taught me that in 5th grade
Jan 24 16:25:37 <jcpham>	*shop
Jan 24 16:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	you had a vagina in 5th grade ?
Jan 24 16:25:45 <JWU_42>	kept seeing my sells go off every .1 BTC up to 19.29 IIRC
Jan 24 16:25:47 <Namworld>	smickles: It has for at least all the assets I've known...
Jan 24 16:25:50 <jcpham>	certainly
Jan 24 16:25:53 <JWU_42>	then see down to 15.75
Jan 24 16:25:53 <Namworld>	I don't know about small ones
Jan 24 16:25:56 <jcpham>	my shop teacher was like
Jan 24 16:25:57 <JWU_42>	grrr
Jan 24 16:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00065336 = 3.1688 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:26:14 <jcpham>	no air hoses in vaginas
Jan 24 16:26:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00605813 = 10.9046 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:26:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 105 @ 0.00616081 = 0.6469 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:26:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00620779 = 6.2078 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:26:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0062078 = 7.4494 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:26:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00629237 = 10.0678 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:26:40 <dub>	you went to a coed school, how middle class
Jan 24 16:26:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1468 @ 0.00630989 = 9.2629 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:26:51 <smickles>	Namworld: it hasn't for mpoe.etf
Jan 24 16:27:06 <jcpham>	dub thats so snide
Jan 24 16:27:08 <jcpham>	i love it
Jan 24 16:27:15 <smickles>	and I have about 40 btc to distribute to people
Jan 24 16:27:30 <smickles>	(as much as I would love to just keep it)
Jan 24 16:27:33 <dub>	jcpham: I thought so
Jan 24 16:28:25 <mircea_popescu>	dude why'd you go to a cockfest school ?
Jan 24 16:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	if there weren't girls i wouldn't have ever went.
Jan 24 16:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 956 @ 0.00630989 = 6.0323 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:29:29 <mod6>	its where they go to learn with all the other banker's kids
Jan 24 16:29:31 <jcpham>	we had the girlies
Jan 24 16:29:45 <jcpham>	back in my day
Jan 24 16:30:10 <dub>	we had the catholic girls school up the road
Jan 24 16:30:47 <dub>	and as we know, catholic school girls rule
Jan 24 16:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 1000 @ 1.03799215 = 1037.9922 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P340T] 1000 @ 1.10641616 = 1106.4162 BTC [+]
Jan 24 16:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 1.17484016 = 1174.8402 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 16:31:21 <mod6>	except they don't like abortions :<
Jan 24 16:31:46 <smickles>	*their parents don't like abortions
Jan 24 16:32:43 <StarenseN>	http://i.imgur.com/gg3PhAz.png
Jan 24 16:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	anal sex rarely leads to abortions
Jan 24 16:32:50 <StarenseN>	new SD report
Jan 24 16:32:54 <StarenseN>	looks lolish
Jan 24 16:33:00 <mod6>	haha mp
Jan 24 16:33:10 <mircea_popescu>	46k ?
Jan 24 16:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	ok so! 24 hour mpex volume 74`923.02599233
Jan 24 16:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	new record and all that
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Jan 24 16:36:37 <StarenseN>	45K yes
Jan 24 16:36:52 <mod6>	wow nearly 75k!
Jan 24 16:37:04 <jurov>	;;calc 75000*0.002
Jan 24 16:37:04 <gribble>	150
Jan 24 16:37:15 <mod6>	hubba hubba
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Jan 24 16:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, true, mtgox charges like 5x that.
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Jan 24 16:39:04 <jurov>	lol, i did not meant it that way, just curious
Jan 24 16:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00064913 = 2.5965 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:39:52 <Namworld>	Fees are low. Only 150 BTC
Jan 24 16:40:03 <Namworld>	But yeah, it's like a stock exchange
Jan 24 16:40:16 <Namworld>	Low fees for people with a direct trading spot
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Jan 24 16:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	one of these days it's gonna be securities volume > currency exchange volume
Jan 24 16:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	and once that happens, it's never going back
Jan 24 16:41:48 <jurov>	do you have some projections? in 2012 volume was steady 50-100K/mo
Jan 24 16:41:58 <jurov>	monthly
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Jan 24 16:42:39 <jurov>	and i doubt such whale ops as today will be a rule
Jan 24 16:42:52 <kakobrekla>	in RL, forex is much larger than stocks
Jan 24 16:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla exchange != forex imo
Jan 24 16:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	and if you shed the notional and compare actual trades...
Jan 24 16:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i would guess 2014-2015
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Jan 24 16:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6946 @ 0.00064913 = 4.5089 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:45:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7004 @ 0.00064736 = 4.5341 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:46:19 <jurov>	i guess forex profitablility for more and more traders will sink below inflation soon.. and then mayhem ensues
Jan 24 16:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	moreover the thing with forex is, you trade on huge leverage
Jan 24 16:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	so if you deposit 100 bux and trade 10k jpy/eur
Jan 24 16:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	what's the fair measure of the trade volume ? 100 bux ? or 10k ?
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Jan 24 16:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12156.msg1475494#msg1475494
Jan 24 16:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4096 @ 0.00064736 = 2.6516 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:47:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17054 @ 0.00064672 = 11.0292 BTC [-]
Jan 24 16:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	lmao seems she called it
Jan 24 16:48:09 <kakobrekla>	same goes for mpex, you do offer margin and stuff
Jan 24 16:48:49 <Namworld>	lol
Jan 24 16:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeh, i do, unlike mtgox
Jan 24 16:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	but i was talking in the shares/forex irl comparison!
Jan 24 16:50:29 <kakobrekla>	well, you can trade shares with margin in rl?
Jan 24 16:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	ya but not quite the same. 2-4x on stocks, 10-50x on forex
Jan 24 16:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	then again... derivatives, do you count them as forex or as securities ?
Jan 24 16:51:03 <kakobrekla>	and its forex's fault.
Jan 24 16:51:06 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 24 16:51:38 <kakobrekla>	yeah we can split hairs here
Jan 24 16:51:46 <mircea_popescu>	tbh what mtgox does is simply exchange
Jan 24 16:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	not in any way forex
Jan 24 16:52:20 <jurov>	hm, CFDs require only 3%-15% margin
Jan 24 16:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	there's stuff the banks trade for as little a 2%
Jan 24 16:52:49 <mircea_popescu>	.2%
Jan 24 16:53:51 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im off. catch you all tomorrow
Jan 24 16:54:04 <topace>	mircea_popescu: process my deposit first! :p
Jan 24 16:54:20 <Namworld>	eh
Jan 24 16:54:23 <topace>	pretty please!
Jan 24 16:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	aite.
Jan 24 16:54:42 <kakobrekla>	with cream and cherry on top.
Jan 24 16:54:54 <topace>	whoop thanks!
Jan 24 16:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	i gotta, cause if not those ppl are capable of buying his pt to like .8
Jan 24 16:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 24 16:55:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.00390419 / 0.00699 (583708 shares, 2,278.91 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00447834 / 0.00699 (967990 shares, 4,334.99 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00416496 / 0.00699 (10216311 shares, 42,550.59 BTC)
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Jan 24 17:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00064672 = 14.5835 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9146 @ 0.00064672 = 5.9149 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8215 @ 0.00064409 = 5.2912 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:07:16 <kakobrekla>	rally
Jan 24 17:07:18 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Jan 24 17:07:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.03864, Best ask: 17.05058, Bid-ask spread: 0.01194, Last trade: 17.33000, 24 hour volume: 165412.20754148, 24 hour low: 15.61010, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 17.78670
Jan 24 17:07:21 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Jan 24 17:07:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.03864, Best ask: 17.05058, Bid-ask spread: 0.01194, Last trade: 17.33000, 24 hour volume: 165412.20754148, 24 hour low: 15.61010, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 17.78670
Jan 24 17:07:24 <kakobrekla>	eh
Jan 24 17:07:29 <kakobrekla>	this is not RT
Jan 24 17:10:30 <dub>	[17:10] <bitcoinRT> Jan24 22:09:54 mtgox           1.9111 @    17.28805    USD
Jan 24 17:10:31 <jcpham>	up/down, down/up
Jan 24 17:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9935 @ 0.00064409 = 6.399 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6465 @ 0.00064292 = 4.1565 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:16:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6135 @ 0.00064292 = 3.9443 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:16:57 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Jan 24 17:16:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.28970, Best ask: 17.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01030, Last trade: 17.27933, 24 hour volume: 167038.32166782, 24 hour low: 15.61010, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 17.78173
Jan 24 17:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3665 @ 0.00063635 = 2.3322 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 17:21:34 <Namworld>	It stabilized
Jan 24 17:21:55 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Jan 24 17:22:01 <Namworld>	the bids are a bit weak tho
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Jan 24 17:23:20 <pigeons>	eh looks the same as it did yesterday
Jan 24 17:23:20 <dub>	Bitcoin - Stable because it hasnt moved more than a dollar in the last minute
Jan 24 17:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8435 @ 0.00063687 = 5.372 BTC [+]
Jan 24 17:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00063157 = 8.9051 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:25:11 <Bugpowder>	it is going down
Jan 24 17:25:13 <Namworld>	Not long term stability
Jan 24 17:25:20 <Bugpowder>	I would bet 300 BTC on it
Jan 24 17:25:22 <Namworld>	I think so too
Jan 24 17:25:29 <dub>	ultra short term stability
Jan 24 17:25:33 <dub>	stable
Jan 24 17:25:37 <dub>	unstable now
Jan 24 17:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 465 @ 0.00063157 = 0.2937 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:25:41 <dub>	now stable again
Jan 24 17:25:51 <dub>	aaand unstable
Jan 24 17:26:08 <Bugpowder>	damped oscillator requires it to go back down
Jan 24 17:26:16 <Namworld>	That's not what I meant by stable. =P
Jan 24 17:26:32 <dub>	what did you mean?
Jan 24 17:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00065335 = 3.2668 BTC [+]
Jan 24 17:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00065336 = 6.5009 BTC [+]
Jan 24 17:27:15 <Namworld>	I didn't mean it as any kind of stability for the exchange rate as a whole, just that price stopped falling one way or the other
Jan 24 17:27:32 <dub>	stopped for 7 seconds sure
Jan 24 17:27:59 <Chilca>	;;ticker
Jan 24 17:27:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.28001, Best ask: 17.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06999, Last trade: 17.39950, 24 hour volume: 168195.18108031, 24 hour low: 15.61010, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 17.77818
Jan 24 17:28:11 <dub>	is that really stable in any relevant way, im curious because I don;t know shit about trading
Jan 24 17:28:35 <Namworld>	no, not stable in any relevant way
Jan 24 17:28:35 <Chilca>	;;ticker m s.dice
Jan 24 17:28:36 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Jan 24 17:28:45 <Chilca>	;ticker m s.dice
Jan 24 17:28:51 <Namworld>	stable as balanced plate on a small stick
Jan 24 17:29:10 <Namworld>	just waiting to start falling again in any direction
Jan 24 17:29:40 <Tritonio1>	Hey Namworld. Did you manage to get a grab of rando? :-)
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Jan 24 17:29:51 <Namworld>	Nope.
Jan 24 17:30:10 <Namworld>	Not a lot of info available on the guy either
Jan 24 17:30:32 <Tritonio>	:-/ Yeah I know... I just hope he comes back when ASICs ship...
Jan 24 17:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.0006548 = 2.5865 BTC [+]
Jan 24 17:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00064148 = 4.779 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:31:18 <Chilca>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 24 17:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.00389641 / 0.00699 (581608 shares, 2,266.18 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00447834 / 0.00699 (967990 shares, 4,334.99 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00416496 / 0.00699 (10216311 shares, 42,550.59 BTC)
Jan 24 17:32:01 <Namworld>	Considering I'm due 1/3rd of those funds, I certainly do to. I'll try to get a hold of him before that tho.
Jan 24 17:32:21 <Tritonio>	1/3 of the 2600BTC (or so)?
Jan 24 17:32:31 <Namworld>	~2400
Jan 24 17:32:35 <Namworld>	770
Jan 24 17:33:12 <Tritonio>	I've got ~150 of those... :-| Which was from mining three blocks in the very early days...
Jan 24 17:33:50 <Namworld>	You should have mined more back then
Jan 24 17:34:03 <kakobrekla>	woulda shoulda coulda
Jan 24 17:34:16 <Tritonio>	I couldn't. :-D I solo CPU mined those three blocks. Then GPU got in mine sucked...
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Jan 24 17:34:30 <Namworld>	ah
Jan 24 17:34:36 <Tritonio>	If you mean I should have made a mining rig, then yeah, I should have, in hindsight...
Jan 24 17:34:44 <Tritonio>	;-)
Jan 24 17:34:45 <Namworld>	That too
Jan 24 17:34:55 <smickles>	wait
Jan 24 17:35:14 <smickles>	you mean to say my s.dice buy was almost taken?
Jan 24 17:35:15 <jcpham>	no smickles
Jan 24 17:35:23 <jcpham>	maybe smickles
Jan 24 17:35:30 <jcpham>	yes smickles
Jan 24 17:36:00 <smickles>	6`183@0.00003000
Jan 24 17:36:26 <Bugpowder>	megawall
Jan 24 17:36:28 <smickles>	it think it was 1k shares away from being taken up
Jan 24 17:36:51 <smickles>	that would've been nice
Jan 24 17:37:10 <jcpham>	feeding frenzy
Jan 24 17:37:19 <jcpham>	everyone has lost their mind
Jan 24 17:37:38 <smickles>	holy shit, did my sell get taken tho?!///?!
Jan 24 17:37:42 <jcpham>	the crop report must have come out yesterday
Jan 24 17:38:31 <smickles>	woah, it did! that would've been doubly awesome, buy and .00003, sell at .0068 moments later
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Jan 24 17:44:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.001139 = 0.1139 BTC [+]
Jan 24 17:45:28 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 24 17:45:51 <Namworld>	but actually, there was a 500k wall of S.DICE at 0.0008xxxx ish
Jan 24 17:45:58 <Namworld>	after the sale, for a short moment
Jan 24 17:45:59 <kakobrekla>	selloff again
Jan 24 17:46:02 <kakobrekla>	yeah bitch go down
Jan 24 17:46:30 <Namworld>	BTC price dropping again?
Jan 24 17:46:38 <Bugpowder>	here we go
Jan 24 17:46:39 <kakobrekla>	174->17
Jan 24 17:46:43 <kakobrekla>	17.4->17
Jan 24 17:46:47 <Namworld>	=P
Jan 24 17:47:00 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Jan 24 17:47:01 <Bugpowder>	they are just letting the bids fill in then gonna drop a hammer
Jan 24 17:47:27 <Namworld>	there's a strand of low bid volume
Jan 24 17:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00065575 = 5.9673 BTC [+]
Jan 24 17:47:36 <kakobrekla>	im waiting for the hammer
Jan 24 17:49:10 <smickles>	buy my P160T :)
Jan 24 17:51:09 <smickles>	or the 17 is a better deal
Jan 24 17:51:21 <Bugpowder>	trend reversal
Jan 24 17:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 5 @ 0.00800001 = 0.04 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 5 @ 0.00800001 = 0.04 BTC [-]
Jan 24 17:53:38 <Bugpowder>	smickles Thank you
Jan 24 17:53:58 <smickles>	a bet i'm willing to take :)
Jan 24 17:54:06 <Bugpowder>	did you miss a zero?
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Jan 24 17:54:21 <smickles>	nope
Jan 24 17:54:40 <Bugpowder>	did you spilt those or do mkopt?
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Jan 24 17:54:55 <smickles>	i try not to mkopt, ever
Jan 24 17:55:56 <smickles>	Bugpowder: if you notice, i'm selling the calls too
Jan 24 17:56:13 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 24 17:56:17 <Bugpowder>	I see
Jan 24 17:56:23 <Bugpowder>	you should charge more for those puts
Jan 24 17:56:25 <Bugpowder>	seriously
Jan 24 17:57:07 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: smickles is having trouble with the receipt could you directly send it to him?
Jan 24 18:00:49 <Bugpowder>	sent
Jan 24 18:01:03 <Bugpowder>	I can email it
Jan 24 18:02:40 <smickles>	heh, i don't know how to verify one of those sent as one line of irc
Jan 24 18:02:45 <smickles>	so email worked :)
Jan 24 18:03:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Jan 24 18:03:24 <Namworld>	Thanks
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Jan 24 18:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26550 @ 0.00064697 = 17.1771 BTC [-]
Jan 24 18:09:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1 @ 0.11196375 BTC [-]
Jan 24 18:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1 @ 0.10041283 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 18:11:03 <Bugpowder>	yeah prob something to do with the linebreak chars
Jan 24 18:11:52 <smickles>	Bugpowder: so you think it's likely that the bc,24hprc will go below 16.86 here soon?
Jan 24 18:11:54 <Bugpowder>	The quesetion now is, after the damped oscillation settles, does it flatline or break
Jan 24 18:11:58 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 18:11:59 <gribble>	17.78
Jan 24 18:12:02 <Bugpowder>	not soon
Jan 24 18:12:06 <jcpham>	icalled it yesterday
Jan 24 18:12:12 <jcpham>	sustained 20 dallar weekend
Jan 24 18:12:20 <jcpham>	no clue where the coins are coming from though
Jan 24 18:12:21 <smickles>	by soon, i mean before/at expiry
Jan 24 18:12:30 <Bugpowder>	but everything from 5pm EST onwards is counted at opex
Jan 24 18:13:09 <Bugpowder>	who knows what will happen
Jan 24 18:13:23 <Bugpowder>	I am prepared to exercise my puts if it rallies hard
Jan 24 18:14:39 <Bugpowder>	17.8 is the key level
Jan 24 18:14:42 <Bugpowder>	for me
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Jan 24 18:19:12 <Ukto>	smicklers :)
Jan 24 18:19:20 <Ukto>	hows the network connect?
Jan 24 18:19:46 <Diablo-D3>	heh its an ukto
Jan 24 18:20:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00622901 = 7.4748 BTC [-]
Jan 24 18:22:52 <Ukto>	wow, its teh Diablo-D3 :P
Jan 24 18:25:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00064169 = 5.3581 BTC [-]
Jan 24 18:26:00 <kakobrekla>	oh look its ze you two.
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Jan 24 18:30:01 <smickles>	Ukto: much better now, I've been moved to dallas
Jan 24 18:30:21 <Bugpowder>	I think price has stabilized
Jan 24 18:30:24 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 24 18:30:38 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 24 18:30:49 <smickles>	Bugpowder: at 16.9?
Jan 24 18:30:50 <Chilca>	;;ticker
Jan 24 18:30:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.85000, Best ask: 16.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 16.95000, 24 hour volume: 171313.25104018, 24 hour low: 15.61010, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 17.75538
Jan 24 18:32:05 <Ukto>	smickles: your here?!?!
Jan 24 18:32:09 <Ukto>	where in dallas?
Jan 24 18:32:12 <Ukto>	I will take you out to dinner
Jan 24 18:32:17 <Ukto>	Let's go. :)
Jan 24 18:32:26 <smickles>	Ukto: heh, thanks, but it's just my vps in dallas
Jan 24 18:32:32 <Ukto>	..
Jan 24 18:32:33 <Ukto>	you suck.
Jan 24 18:32:34 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 24 18:32:39 <smickles>	it's been 2 years or so since i was in dallas
Jan 24 18:32:45 <Ukto>	damn
Jan 24 18:32:50 <Ukto>	here I thought someone was gonna be in the area
Jan 24 18:32:54 <Diablo-D3>	grr
Jan 24 18:33:01 <Ukto>	coulda used you for a cpa for weex tooo :P
Jan 24 18:33:20 <smickles>	heh, don't I keep telling you that I'm not yet a cpa?
Jan 24 18:33:37 <smickles>	but I do have my own accounting company now :)
Jan 24 18:33:55 <smickles>	just waiting on a local business license to be fully legit
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Jan 24 18:34:39 <kakobrekla>	so hows your borring non bitlife
Jan 24 18:36:32 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Jan 24 18:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00059613 / 0.00067058 / 0.0007 (12572067 shares, 8,430.63 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065281 / 0.0007 (24082513 shares, 15,721.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065046 / 0.0007 (51566494 shares, 33,541.95 BTC)
Jan 24 18:39:54 <Bugpowder>	smickles yeah.  oscillation has died out, volume is gone.
Jan 24 18:39:58 <Bugpowder>	16.9
Jan 24 18:40:04 <Bugpowder>	is the new 13.5
Jan 24 18:40:10 <Bugpowder>	maybe
Jan 24 18:41:01 <Diablo-D3>	thats not so bad really
Jan 24 18:41:11 <markedathome>	anyone want an ingress invite?
Jan 24 18:44:51 <dub>	sounds painful
Jan 24 18:44:56 <dub>	are you ingressing or am I
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Jan 24 18:45:10 <pigeons>	dub is a pitcher not a catcher
Jan 24 18:45:16 <markedathome>	dunno? are you enlightened or do you resist?
Jan 24 18:45:22 <dub>	I do prefer egress myself
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Jan 24 18:45:45 <pigeons>	egress and coffee is the highlight of my day
Jan 24 18:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2372 @ 0.00064148 = 1.5216 BTC [-]
Jan 24 18:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8628 @ 0.00063967 = 5.5191 BTC [-]
Jan 24 18:46:03 <dub>	I usually need coffee before egressing
Jan 24 18:46:14 <markedathome>	coffee is the highlight, and then the day just gets worse
Jan 24 18:46:54 <dub>	my day includes coffee at 2 hoursly intervals
Jan 24 18:46:58 <dub>	hourly*
Jan 24 18:47:47 <markedathome>	and the night lay awake in jitters?
Jan 24 18:48:40 <kakobrekla>	;;google night
Jan 24 18:48:40 <gribble>	Night (book) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_(book)>; SparkNotes: Night: <http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/night/>; Night: Elie Wiesel, Marion Wiesel: 9780374500016: Amazon.com ...: <http://www.amazon.com/Night-Oprahs-Book-Club-Wiesel/dp/0374500010>
Jan 24 18:48:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5832 @ 0.00063967 = 3.7306 BTC [-]
Jan 24 18:49:19 <dub>	after 17:00 I s/coffee/single malt
Jan 24 18:54:07 <markedathome>	kakobrekla: it is where the big blue room turns into the big black room, with occasional white lighting, and in some places orange
Jan 24 18:54:07 <Bugpowder>	oop
Jan 24 18:54:18 <Bugpowder>	broke below
Jan 24 18:54:22 <Bugpowder>	might still go down
Jan 24 18:58:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6428 @ 0.00064127 = 4.1221 BTC [+]
Jan 24 18:58:12 <jurov>	markedathome: perhaps he had not seen that blue room in years
Jan 24 18:58:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00064169 = 2.3101 BTC [+]
Jan 24 18:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7772 @ 0.00065161 = 5.0643 BTC [+]
Jan 24 18:58:56 <dub>	pretty sure he was just trying to find where to buy books Oprah recommends
Jan 24 18:58:58 <markedathome>	spending too much time coding on the mpex bots
Jan 24 19:00:17 <jurov>	surviving on coffee and single malt
Jan 24 19:00:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 300 @ 0.001139 = 0.3417 BTC [+]
Jan 24 19:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 89 @ 0.001139 = 0.1014 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 19:18:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.555 = 2.22 BTC [+]
Jan 24 19:20:52 <MadSweeney>	noob question: I already bought a call option, and now it's in the money. How or where do I take profits from the difference between the price and the strike?
Jan 24 19:21:06 <thestringpuller>	exercise it
Jan 24 19:21:12 <thestringpuller>	check the mpex faq
Jan 24 19:21:24 <thestringpuller>	you have mpex account or is this coinbr?
Jan 24 19:21:53 <MadSweeney>	thestringpuller, thanks. that's what I suspected
Jan 24 19:22:29 <MadSweeney>	coinbr
Jan 24 19:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.555 = 2.775 BTC [+]
Jan 24 19:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.5669 = 7.3697 BTC [+]
Jan 24 19:29:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00063967 = 1.951 BTC [-]
Jan 24 19:40:35 <smickles>	MadSweeney: make sure you are using ;;bc,24hprc, not mtgox last
Jan 24 19:40:49 <smickles>	'cause that's what mpex will use to exercise it
Jan 24 19:41:00 <MadSweeney>	yep
Jan 24 19:41:38 <Namworld>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 19:41:42 <gribble>	17.75
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Jan 24 19:46:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Jan 24 19:47:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 704 @ 0.01 = 7.04 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 19:47:35 <Namworld>	Hmm
Jan 24 19:47:44 <Namworld>	Lots of BTC-BOND selling
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Jan 24 19:56:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00065161 = 2.8997 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 20:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00627339 = 8.1554 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 20:21:24 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Jan 24 20:21:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.07962, Best ask: 16.07963, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 16.07963, 24 hour volume: 169952.33313199, 24 hour low: 15.61010, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 17.67996
Jan 24 20:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00627339 = 1.882 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00619251 = 1.8578 BTC [-]
Jan 24 20:25:52 <jcpham>	insanity still
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Jan 24 20:32:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.8556 = 1.7112 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:33:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.01 = 0.13 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:33:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0061 = 0.122 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:37:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7578 @ 0.0006465 = 4.8992 BTC [-]
Jan 24 20:37:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6022 @ 0.00063967 = 3.8521 BTC [-]
Jan 24 20:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00630988 = 0.9465 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:39:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00630988 = 6.6254 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 136 @ 0.00630989 = 0.8581 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 114 @ 0.00631056 = 0.7194 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:40:27 *	da2ce7_d is now known as da2ce7
Jan 24 20:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 200 @ 0.001139 = 0.2278 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:44:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00619251 = 3.4059 BTC [-]
Jan 24 20:46:01 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 24 20:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.001139 / 0.001139 / 0.001139 (689 shares, 0.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00100006 / 0.00100817 / 0.00129998 (90260 shares, 91.00 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00078438 / 0.0035 (2269372 shares, 1,780.06 BTC)
Jan 24 20:54:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 12 @ 0.339 = 4.068 BTC [-]
Jan 24 20:54:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+]
Jan 24 20:55:41 <Namworld>	oh, still going down
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Jan 24 21:01:56 <smickles>	;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 21:02:00 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 21:02:01 <gribble>	17.57
Jan 24 21:03:12 <Namworld>	we'll go down to 14 I tell ye
Jan 24 21:03:25 <Namworld>	Back to the old stable price
Jan 24 21:04:07 <kakobrekla>	yeah yeah
Jan 24 21:04:13 <kakobrekla>	i always tp too soon
Jan 24 21:04:26 <error4733>	my ROI look better @19$ :)
Jan 24 21:04:42 <smickles>	bah
Jan 24 21:04:46 <smickles>	don't say 19
Jan 24 21:04:53 <kakobrekla>	just over 18.
Jan 24 21:04:57 <smickles>	i sold at 19, gox turned it into 16
Jan 24 21:05:13 <error4733>	the magic part
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Jan 24 21:06:08 <error4733>	congratzzz for Mpex !
Jan 24 21:06:12 <Namworld>	hey gigavps
Jan 24 21:06:13 <error4733>	"MPEx 24 hour volume: 74,923.02599233 BTC"
Jan 24 21:06:57 <error4733>	more than $1M
Jan 24 21:09:29 <gigavps>	hi Namworld
Jan 24 21:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 170 @ 0.00615432 = 1.0462 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 21:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8378 @ 0.00065161 = 5.4592 BTC [+]
Jan 24 21:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2525 @ 0.00065297 = 1.6487 BTC [+]
Jan 24 21:23:34 <Namworld>	Can you check your skype?
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Jan 24 21:24:18 <Namworld>	gigavps?
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Jan 24 21:25:33 <gigavps>	kk
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Jan 24 21:33:00 <Bugpowder>	yeahhhh
Jan 24 21:34:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 29 @ 0.34 = 9.86 BTC [+]
Jan 24 21:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00063967 = 6.9084 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 21:46:12 <Namworld>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 21:46:14 <gribble>	17.54
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Jan 24 22:01:33 <Namworld>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 24 22:01:34 <gribble>	17.52
Jan 24 22:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.5669 = 9.6373 BTC [+]
Jan 24 22:03:42 <Namworld>	HAVELOCK has cheap SDICE currently
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Jan 24 22:09:15 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/y2DGv5K.jpg
Jan 24 22:09:24 <Bugpowder>	amazing similarity
Jan 24 22:09:35 <Bugpowder>	same time of day even
Jan 24 22:09:58 <Bugpowder>	We are going down
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Jan 24 22:17:10 <Namworld>	lol
Jan 24 22:17:24 <Namworld>	Pirate cashout round 2 xD
Jan 24 22:17:48 <Namworld>	At the time lots of speculation it was Pirate cashing out. Although I think He had long cashed, slowly
Jan 24 22:21:41 <Bugpowder>	I predict 24hprc at opex will be $16.20
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Jan 24 22:23:37 <usagi>	Hi
Jan 24 22:23:43 <kakobrekla>	hi
Jan 24 22:24:01 <usagi>	it's that slow huh
Jan 24 22:24:13 <kakobrekla>	nah
Jan 24 22:26:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7261 @ 0.00063967 = 4.6446 BTC [-]
Jan 24 22:26:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4989 @ 0.000636 = 3.173 BTC [-]
Jan 24 22:30:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1479 @ 0.00631056 = 9.3333 BTC [+]
Jan 24 22:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 421 @ 0.00632181 = 2.6615 BTC [+]
Jan 24 22:33:32 <Namworld>	Hello usagi
Jan 24 22:35:13 <usagi>	Guess what
Jan 24 22:35:22 <Namworld>	?
Jan 24 22:35:27 <kakobrekla>	pirate paid
Jan 24 22:35:32 <Namworld>	lol
Jan 24 22:35:34 <usagi>	No, that's illogical
Jan 24 22:35:47 <kakobrekla>	also a classic.
Jan 24 22:35:56 <usagi>	I thought I had bought a pack of ramen but when I opened it, it turned out to be some kind of miso soup and there weren't any noodles.
Jan 24 22:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4499 @ 0.000636 = 2.8614 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 22:36:45 <usagi>	I say, It's quite good. Yet I am strangely dilapated at the loss of a wheaty denoument.
Jan 24 22:37:18 <usagi>	oops. I mean, dilapidated
Jan 24 22:37:27 <Namworld>	Hmm... miso soup seems good
Jan 24 22:37:35 <Namworld>	just add something in it then...
Jan 24 22:38:13 <usagi>	It already came with a packet of freeze dried nori and something called "artificial calamari".
Jan 24 22:38:44 <Namworld>	I wonder what's artificial calamari...
Jan 24 22:39:18 <usagi>	Probably fish cake.
Jan 24 22:43:13 <Namworld>	A google search suggests pig rectum, cut. Fry it and make rings of artificial calamari
Jan 24 22:44:56 <jcpham>	usagi so are you a scammer or not
Jan 24 22:44:59 <usagi>	Uh oh
Jan 24 22:45:04 <jcpham>	i've never particularly payed attention
Jan 24 22:45:08 <usagi>	No wonder it was in the half price box
Jan 24 22:45:10 <jcpham>	does it matter?
Jan 24 22:45:17 <usagi>	jcpham: Am I a scammer?
Jan 24 22:45:32 <jcpham>	simple enough question, sure?
Jan 24 22:46:08 <usagi>	My lawyer has advised I don't answer that question.
Jan 24 22:46:12 <usagi>	:)
Jan 24 22:46:21 <jcpham>	good enough i suppose
Jan 24 22:46:23 <usagi>	Funny isn't it though.. no scammer tag
Jan 24 22:46:52 <jcpham>	i wouldn't know if that would actually weigh on me or not
Jan 24 22:46:57 <jcpham>	the forum scammer tag
Jan 24 22:48:37 <usagi>	I hope it doesn't sound whimsical but I think that you should ask something else, like, 'did I misappropriate company funds', or 'did I misrepresent the value of my companies'
Jan 24 22:49:47 <jcpham>	nah that's too specific
Jan 24 22:49:58 <jcpham>	i don't want to know that much about you
Jan 24 22:50:02 <usagi>	hehe
Jan 24 22:50:15 <jcpham>	anyways hello
Jan 24 22:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00064254 = 4.2086 BTC [+]
Jan 24 22:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 512 @ 0.000636 = 0.3256 BTC [-]
Jan 24 22:50:31 <usagi>	Then know this, I am paying out what people are owed. I've paid out hundreds of BTC already in divs on the stuff I have listed
Jan 24 22:50:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1790 @ 0.00063551 = 1.1376 BTC [-]
Jan 24 22:50:38 <usagi>	That's all that really matters in the end
Jan 24 22:50:40 <jcpham>	cool stuff
Jan 24 22:50:44 <jcpham>	yep
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Jan 24 23:06:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 396 @ 0.00632181 = 2.5034 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 23:14:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064331 = 4.6318 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 23:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00064897 = 9.2154 BTC [+]
Jan 24 23:23:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 1.0537 BTC [+]
Jan 24 23:24:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064569 = 2.1953 BTC [-]
Jan 24 23:26:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00064569 = 12.6555 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 23:37:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 178 @ 0.0061 = 1.0858 BTC [+]
Jan 24 23:38:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1822 @ 0.0063 = 11.4786 BTC [+]
Jan 24 23:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00065297 = 2.1874 BTC [+]
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Jan 24 23:56:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00063551 = 2.9869 BTC [-]
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Jan 24 23:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.00063551 = 3.1521 BTC [-]
Jan 24 23:59:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2440 @ 0.00063505 = 1.5495 BTC [-]
Jan 25 00:01:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3860 @ 0.00063505 = 2.4513 BTC [-]
Jan 25 00:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6690 @ 0.000633 = 4.2348 BTC [-]
Jan 25 00:11:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0006331 = 4.4 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 00:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3310 @ 0.000633 = 2.0952 BTC [-]
Jan 25 00:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7554 @ 0.00063269 = 4.7793 BTC [-]
Jan 25 00:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2446 @ 0.00063269 = 1.5476 BTC [-]
Jan 25 00:25:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2704 @ 0.00063268 = 1.7108 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 00:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15447 @ 0.00063268 = 9.773 BTC [-]
Jan 25 00:29:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5353 @ 0.00063046 = 3.3749 BTC [-]
Jan 25 00:30:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2220 @ 0.0006331 = 1.4055 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 00:33:38 <kakobrekla>	mr.p.
Jan 25 00:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	heya mr k.
Jan 25 00:41:48 <usagi>	Someone just bid 0.42 BTC per share for ASICMIER.
Jan 25 00:42:25 <usagi>	asicminer*
Jan 25 00:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 25 00:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.00381004 / 0.00699 (551781 shares, 2,102.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00447518 / 0.00699 (962889 shares, 4,309.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00416676 / 0.00699 (10220055 shares, 42,584.56 BTC)
Jan 25 00:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.00632181 / 0.00063310
Jan 25 00:43:24 <gribble>	9.98548412573
Jan 25 00:43:32 <mircea_popescu>	whoa they are reaching parity!
Jan 25 00:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.98911 = 2.9673 BTC [-]
Jan 25 00:46:30 <Namworld>	Should I fund the development a software for MPEx with a GUI?
Jan 25 00:46:45 <kakobrekla>	you mean coinbr?
Jan 25 00:46:56 <Namworld>	No, for direct traders
Jan 25 00:47:04 <Namworld>	like pympex but with a GUI
Jan 25 00:47:09 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 25 00:47:10 <Namworld>	and dropdowns
Jan 25 00:47:30 <Namworld>	seems like command line is sometimes too slow when you want to trade fast
Jan 25 00:47:52 <kakobrekla>	make a JS client
Jan 25 00:48:23 <Namworld>	hmm
Jan 25 00:48:55 <Namworld>	why js?
Jan 25 00:49:32 <kakobrekla>	cause its super awesome, fast, cross platorm, etc etc ?
Jan 25 00:49:47 <Namworld>	I guess you're right
Jan 25 00:50:39 <Namworld>	Can even put it online.
Jan 25 00:50:45 <kakobrekla>	ya
Jan 25 00:50:58 <Namworld>	but what about using the user's gpg certificate...
Jan 25 00:51:24 <kakobrekla>	http://www.hanewin.net/encrypt/
Jan 25 00:51:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 399 @ 0.0063 = 2.5137 BTC [+]
Jan 25 00:53:04 <kakobrekla>	anyway
Jan 25 00:53:09 <kakobrekla>	its 7am so im off to bed
Jan 25 00:53:12 <kakobrekla>	later
Jan 25 00:53:32 <Namworld>	later
Jan 25 00:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00063261 = 3.4161 BTC [-]
Jan 25 00:54:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.0006331 = 1.3295 BTC [+]
Jan 25 00:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	dude you're supposed to wake up at 7am,
Jan 25 00:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	not to go sleep
Jan 25 00:58:02 <kakobrekla>	time is arbitrary
Jan 25 00:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld :" the blockchain people have some method of using a javascript that allows the user to handle his addresses
Jan 25 00:58:11 <mircea_popescu>	the same principle could be used with certs too im sure.
Jan 25 00:58:33 <usagi>	it's 3pm here
Jan 25 00:58:41 <usagi>	I'm lazing
Jan 25 00:58:47 <usagi>	big lunch
Jan 25 01:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11330 @ 0.0006331 = 7.173 BTC [+]
Jan 25 01:02:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1370 @ 0.00063769 = 0.8736 BTC [+]
Jan 25 01:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6147 @ 0.00063046 = 3.8754 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15461 @ 0.00062765 = 9.7041 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26366 @ 0.00062555 = 16.4933 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8418 @ 0.000624 = 5.2528 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 01:04:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00062167 = 2.611 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00062105 = 7.1731 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2858 @ 0.00062071 = 1.774 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 25 01:09:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00059613 / 0.00067264 / 0.0007 (12311765 shares, 8,281.44 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065233 / 0.0007 (23989321 shares, 15,649.06 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065039 / 0.0007 (51770531 shares, 33,671.44 BTC)
Jan 25 01:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 25 01:09:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00085848 / 0.00381004 / 0.00699 (551781 shares, 2,102.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00447518 / 0.00699 (962889 shares, 4,309.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00416676 / 0.00699 (10220055 shares, 42,584.56 BTC)
Jan 25 01:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063769 = 3.1885 BTC [+]
Jan 25 01:16:30 <Namworld>	good... I'll get that started
Jan 25 01:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	if experience is any guide adding a confirm screen will be valuable.
Jan 25 01:18:45 <Namworld>	yes
Jan 25 01:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	ahh i love open development.
Jan 25 01:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	i suspected i might, but srsly, it kicks ass.
Jan 25 01:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	i don't understand all the other kids managing their in house programming staff to do anything and everything.
Jan 25 01:24:02 <sgnb>	+1
Jan 25 01:24:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 3 @ 0.08860882 = 0.2658 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:24:35 <mod6>	awe crap
Jan 25 01:24:39 <Namworld>	I'd outsource the development...
Jan 25 01:24:58 <sgnb>	it depends
Jan 25 01:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	if you outsource it you still have to manage it
Jan 25 01:25:13 <Namworld>	Yeah
Jan 25 01:25:25 <mircea_popescu>	contrary to what people think, management is the largest cost of doing business
Jan 25 01:25:28 <mod6>	*whew*
Jan 25 01:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	marketing is just more visible, that's all.
Jan 25 01:25:48 <mod6>	sorry! :D
Jan 25 01:25:50 <Namworld>	But in javascript... just get a field for user private certificate and some input field for the string.
Jan 25 01:25:51 *	mod6 goes back to it
Jan 25 01:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W18URB6qYeY this nana lovich bitch is actually doing pretty good.
Jan 25 01:26:13 <Namworld>	sign, encrypt, post, read reply, decrypt, display
Jan 25 01:26:27 <Namworld>	Should not be too much
Jan 25 01:26:53 <Namworld>	I'll do the styling myself and market it.
Jan 25 01:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	there needs to be some integrity check
Jan 25 01:27:40 <sgnb>	try mega's stuff ;-)
Jan 25 01:27:56 <Namworld>	mega's?
Jan 25 01:28:40 <Namworld>	if it's javascript, anyone can review the code themselve/take it to put it on their own server/etc
Jan 25 01:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Jan 25 01:28:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1 @ 0.0726088 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:28:50 <Namworld>	and verify it only posts to mpex.co
Jan 25 01:29:36 <sgnb>	Namworld: javascript doesn't imply reviewability
Jan 25 01:29:41 <sgnb>	(try Google)
Jan 25 01:29:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00063192 = 4.0759 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	sooo the swiss are also repatriating gold.
Jan 25 01:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	dear all, gtf out of dollars this spring.
Jan 25 01:30:05 <sgnb>	I heard that about Germans recently
Jan 25 01:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	by winter there many no longer be a us dollar.
Jan 25 01:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	sgnb yep
Jan 25 01:30:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160N] 3 @ 0.28263961 = 0.8479 BTC [+]
Jan 25 01:30:45 <sgnb>	actually, I think programming big stuff in Javascript is stupid
Jan 25 01:31:05 <sgnb>	(compared to programming in a saner language and compile it to Javascript)
Jan 25 01:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160N] 3 @ 0.18767611 = 0.563 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	i think by all definitions this would be small stuff tho
Jan 25 01:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	what is it, string parsing
Jan 25 01:31:37 <Namworld>	pretty much
Jan 25 01:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	like computer programming 101
Jan 25 01:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	"parse this string"
Jan 25 01:32:00 <sgnb>	is there an openpgp library out there?
Jan 25 01:32:01 <Namworld>	and possibly just use dropdowns and aggregate each value in the string
Jan 25 01:32:06 <sgnb>	(I mean, JS library)
Jan 25 01:32:13 <Namworld>	adding the " | | | " around each input
Jan 25 01:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	sgnb i think someone linked something earlier
Jan 25 01:32:27 <sgnb>	ah
Jan 25 01:32:30 <Namworld>	It's really just a quick use form for MPEx
Jan 25 01:32:38 <sgnb>	then, ok, it should be really simple
Jan 25 01:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170N] 3 @ 0.24953651 = 0.7486 BTC [+]
Jan 25 01:33:02 <Namworld>	gpg + string parsing/posting
Jan 25 01:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170N] 3 @ 0.22492555 = 0.6748 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:35:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14308 @ 0.00062071 = 8.8811 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:47:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00062848 = 1.3198 BTC [+]
Jan 25 01:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1 @ 0.07244845 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:52:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1 @ 0.07260014 BTC [+]
Jan 25 01:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062071 = 1.5518 BTC [-]
Jan 25 01:56:49 <sgnb>	http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Mega-s-first-crypto-faux-pas-1790286.html
Jan 25 01:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	ya lol
Jan 25 01:58:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://fail0verflow.com/blog/2013/megafail.html
Jan 25 01:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	failover announced it yest.
Jan 25 01:58:57 <mod6>	111111 222222 333333 444444 555555 666666
Jan 25 01:59:10 <mod6>	HA HA HA HA
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Jan 25 02:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5181 @ 0.0006209 = 3.2169 BTC [+]
Jan 25 02:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10519 @ 0.00062071 = 6.5292 BTC [-]
Jan 25 02:07:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00616081 = 4.3126 BTC [-]
Jan 25 02:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00621929 = 3.4206 BTC [+]
Jan 25 02:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 621 @ 0.00627457 = 3.8965 BTC [+]
Jan 25 02:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1539 @ 0.00632181 = 9.7293 BTC [+]
Jan 25 02:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0063388 = 31.694 BTC [+]
Jan 25 02:07:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5634 @ 0.00635807 = 35.8214 BTC [+]
Jan 25 02:07:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1810 @ 0.00635808 = 11.5081 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 02:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00062323 = 3.5836 BTC [+]
Jan 25 02:41:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4125 @ 0.00062071 = 2.5604 BTC [-]
Jan 25 02:41:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.000616 = 0.5544 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 02:41:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5075 @ 0.000615 = 3.1211 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 02:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.000615 = 4.8585 BTC [-]
Jan 25 03:01:50 <jurov>	;;later tell MadSweeney had any problems with exercise? looks like you didn't do anything
Jan 25 03:01:50 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 25 03:03:12 <jurov>	everyone - if you buy options with coinbr, exercise link will show right on the dashboard.,
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Jan 25 03:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1478063#msg1478063
Jan 25 03:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	usagi is setting trends
Jan 25 03:20:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.000615 = 1.1685 BTC [-]
Jan 25 03:25:07 <jurov>	uh oh, javascript pgp? what did the world come to?
Jan 25 03:26:28 <jurov>	use generically named textarea like "password" for gpg private key.
Jan 25 03:26:41 <jurov>	watch the browser to autosuggest it everywhere
Jan 25 03:26:44 <jurov>	pwnage
Jan 25 03:28:04 <Namworld>	well you just don't have use a generic named textarea...
Jan 25 03:28:42 <jurov>	looks like i have to add auth to mpexagent and convert it to self-containing exe to prevent such insanity
Jan 25 03:29:05 <jurov>	then you'll just jsonrpc call it and gpg key will stay safer
Jan 25 03:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> watch the browser to autosuggest it everywhere lolz
Jan 25 03:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 680 @ 0.00063769 = 0.4336 BTC [+]
Jan 25 03:30:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6970 @ 0.0006403 = 4.4629 BTC [+]
Jan 25 03:37:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 03:39:36 <jurov>	Namworld, that was just the first idea what could go wrong. Of many.
Jan 25 03:39:51 <jurov>	cu later
Jan 25 03:40:59 <Namworld>	hmm, what would you suggest?
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Jan 25 03:47:32 <mircea_popescu>	Catalan parliament approves declaration of state sovereignty
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Jan 25 03:52:54 <Namworld>	=O
Jan 25 03:54:58 <leotreasure>	wow - 21k on a 50% bet @ sd
Jan 25 03:55:13 <leotreasure>	$
Jan 25 03:55:34 <Namworld>	You can bet such large amounts?
Jan 25 03:55:43 <leotreasure>	further 16k just now
Jan 25 03:56:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00062707 = 5.8631 BTC [-]
Jan 25 03:56:43 <leotreasure>	good point Namworld
Jan 25 03:57:18 <leotreasure>	the website suggests 500 btc is max
Jan 25 03:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	i think they changed the rules recently,
Jan 25 03:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	lifted the maxes maybe ?
Jan 25 03:58:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00063282 = 0.2848 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 03:59:21 <markedathome>	don't large bets just get returned?
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Jan 25 04:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10101 @ 0.00635808 = 64.223 BTC [+]
Jan 25 04:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 508 @ 0.00643207 = 3.2675 BTC [+]
Jan 25 04:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 125 @ 0.0064867 = 0.8108 BTC [+]
Jan 25 04:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0065 = 19.5 BTC [+]
Jan 25 04:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2044 @ 0.00654688 = 13.3818 BTC [+]
Jan 25 04:06:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1119 @ 0.00699 = 7.8218 BTC [+]
Jan 25 04:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 110 @ 0.00699 = 0.7689 BTC [+]
Jan 25 04:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome i think so
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Jan 25 05:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125 @ 0.000615 = 0.0769 BTC [-]
Jan 25 05:02:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7725 @ 0.000614 = 4.7432 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 05:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2275 @ 0.000614 = 1.3969 BTC [-]
Jan 25 05:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1575 @ 0.00061382 = 0.9668 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 05:24:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2987 @ 0.00062661 = 1.8717 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 05:32:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 213 @ 0.00062661 = 0.1335 BTC [+]
Jan 25 05:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4163 @ 0.0006348 = 2.6427 BTC [+]
Jan 25 05:40:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00062023 = 6.5744 BTC [-]
Jan 25 05:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00061382 = 1.289 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 05:52:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0064 = 6.4 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 06:17:27 <jurov>	Namworld, since mpexagent is done with twisted engine, it should be trivial to add some file serving
Jan 25 06:17:53 <jurov>	so user basically starts it, puts gpg passphrase into popup window
Jan 25 06:18:20 <jurov>	and from then on he'll use http://localhost:port to interact with it and send cmds to mpex
Jan 25 06:18:37 <jurov>	via browser.
Jan 25 06:18:58 <jurov>	the passphrase  will be entered outside browser and only once
Jan 25 06:19:46 <jurov>	can't be simpler that that, while keeping reasonable safety
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Jan 25 06:21:57 <jurov>	i'll look into it next week
Jan 25 06:31:31 <Namworld>	eh
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Jan 25 06:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00062345 = 8.1049 BTC [+]
Jan 25 06:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00061743 = 0.8953 BTC [-]
Jan 25 06:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	gah all those sites starting wioth bitcoin
Jan 25 06:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	fucking bane of urls, i have to type the whoel thing all the time
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Jan 25 06:53:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00061743 = 5.0321 BTC [-]
Jan 25 06:58:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062575 = 1.5644 BTC [+]
Jan 25 06:58:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00063118 = 3.5346 BTC [+]
Jan 25 07:01:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00636679 = 3.8201 BTC [-]
Jan 25 07:03:37 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: bitinstant
Jan 25 07:04:12 <mircea_popescu>	ya they're better.
Jan 25 07:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/olympian-worked-call-girl-article-1.1224594
Jan 25 07:05:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 28 @ 0.34 = 9.52 BTC [+]
Jan 25 07:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck is irrational about 600 an hour lmao
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Jan 25 07:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00063118 = 2.5878 BTC [+]
Jan 25 07:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5837 @ 0.0006348 = 3.7053 BTC [+]
Jan 25 07:19:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 263 @ 0.0006403 = 0.1684 BTC [+]
Jan 25 07:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 566 @ 0.00636679 = 3.6036 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 08:33:35 <deadweasel>	;;bids 16.5
Jan 25 08:33:37 <gribble>	There are currently 2007.564 bitcoins demanded at or over 16.5 USD, worth 33464.9531412 USD in total.
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Jan 25 08:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6514 @ 0.00062512 = 4.072 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 09:18:27 <Guest9919>	;;seen smickles
Jan 25 09:18:27 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 13 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <smickles> i sold at 19, gox turned it into 16
Jan 25 09:18:39 *	Guest9919 is now known as thestringpuller
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Jan 25 09:50:29 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 25 09:50:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.19700, Best ask: 17.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00300, Last trade: 17.20000, 24 hour volume: 166494.43264560, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 17.09456
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Jan 25 09:50:49 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hrpc
Jan 25 09:50:50 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrpc" is not a valid command.
Jan 25 09:50:59 <thestringpuller>	;;bc
Jan 25 09:50:59 <gribble>	Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
Jan 25 09:51:05 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hrcp
Jan 25 09:51:05 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrcp" is not a valid command.
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Jan 25 09:51:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu i summon theeeee
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Jan 25 10:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00062553 = 1.8766 BTC [+]
Jan 25 10:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18868 @ 0.00062 = 11.6982 BTC [-]
Jan 25 10:03:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00061906 = 4.4263 BTC [-]
Jan 25 10:03:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2529 @ 0.00061898 = 1.5654 BTC [-]
Jan 25 10:03:25 <topace>	;;seen bugpowder
Jan 25 10:03:25 <gribble>	bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 41 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> I predict 24hprc at opex will be $16.20
Jan 25 10:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 993 @ 0.00654141 = 6.4956 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 10:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062705 = 6.9603 BTC [+]
Jan 25 10:07:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062963 = 3.0852 BTC [+]
Jan 25 10:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 300 @ 0.0010499 = 0.315 BTC [-]
Jan 25 10:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1987 @ 0.00654141 = 12.9978 BTC [+]
Jan 25 10:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 972 @ 0.00061898 = 0.6016 BTC [-]
Jan 25 10:11:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5728 @ 0.00061753 = 3.5372 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 10:19:17 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 25 10:19:17 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 14 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <smickles> i sold at 19, gox turned it into 16
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Jan 25 10:36:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 838 @ 0.00061754 = 0.5175 BTC [+]
Jan 25 10:36:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2062 @ 0.00061753 = 1.2733 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 10:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	bah all these people offering me stock tips, warning about my failed ach transfers, wanting me in their linkedin networks and whatnot.
Jan 25 10:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, in 2013, still ?
Jan 25 10:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	how long can the shit go on ?
Jan 25 10:42:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [+]
Jan 25 10:42:29 <thestringpuller>	???
Jan 25 10:42:40 <kakobrekla>	they can add me on linked, i have you quoted there.
Jan 25 10:43:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.0006276 = 3.6715 BTC [+]
Jan 25 10:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00062963 = 1.1019 BTC [+]
Jan 25 10:44:25 <jcpham>	i deleted my linked in account
Jan 25 10:44:27 <thestringpuller>	ls
Jan 25 10:44:33 <kakobrekla>	..
Jan 25 10:44:34 <kakobrekla>	.
Jan 25 10:44:53 <thestringpuller>	cd ../../../../../../..
Jan 25 10:44:55 <thestringpuller>	oops
Jan 25 10:45:06 <jcpham>	LFI hacker!
Jan 25 10:45:25 <thestringpuller>	LFI?
Jan 25 10:45:46 <jcpham>	well it wouldn't be aremote file inclusion with a path like that
Jan 25 10:45:53 *	jcpham snickers
Jan 25 10:46:39 <jcpham>	http://hakipedia.com/index.php/Local_File_Inclusion
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Jan 25 10:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00061797 = 1.5449 BTC [-]
Jan 25 10:58:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00061753 = 0.2779 BTC [-]
Jan 25 10:58:53 <deadweasel>	what is with the wackly price range on Bitcoin 24?  Buy: $25  Sell: $16.5        I see the sell price being manipulated often too, especially  late novermber early december.  Sell price dropping sometimes to $1, $3, $7, $10
Jan 25 10:59:20 <DeaDTerra>	Anyone who wants to sell ASICMINER shares?
Jan 25 11:06:46 <Diablo-D3>	DeaDTerra: you cant yet until the exchange is up
Jan 25 11:09:16 <DeaDTerra>	You can ask Friedcat to write your shares over to someone else
Jan 25 11:09:29 <DeaDTerra>	or you could make a contract stating once the exchange is up, you transfer the shares
Jan 25 11:09:41 <DeaDTerra>	so a exchange of shares for BTC is possible
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Jan 25 11:11:39 <Ukto>	hey DeaDTerra
Jan 25 11:11:45 <Ukto>	skype
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Jan 25 11:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99999999 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 11:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.00061753 = 3.0629 BTC [-]
Jan 25 11:19:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1040 @ 0.0006175 = 0.6422 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 11:29:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00062963 = 2.55 BTC [+]
Jan 25 11:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.56899999 = 7.966 BTC [-]
Jan 25 11:38:30 <Namworld>	hmm, price raising again
Jan 25 11:38:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 25 11:38:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.30000, Best ask: 17.39900, Bid-ask spread: 0.09900, Last trade: 17.39900, 24 hour volume: 165052.52438769, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 17.04471
Jan 25 11:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	sweet.
Jan 25 11:38:43 <Namworld>	just exercised my puts, more profit
Jan 25 11:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you had calls ?
Jan 25 11:39:10 <Namworld>	I sold them for 20% profit
Jan 25 11:39:21 <Namworld>	106 > 128 BTC
Jan 25 11:39:25 <Namworld>	The bought puts
Jan 25 11:39:36 <Namworld>	> 212 BTC
Jan 25 11:39:39 <Namworld>	Then*
Jan 25 11:39:54 <Ukto>	hmmm
Jan 25 11:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	a good for you then
Jan 25 11:40:02 <Namworld>	pretty much almost exactly 100% profit
Jan 25 11:43:52 <kakobrekla>	grats :)
Jan 25 11:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	calling the top/bottom like that is a sure path to riches.
Jan 25 11:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	course, failing to...
Jan 25 11:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	"Hi Monster Tent, thank you for allowing me to answer this question today."
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Jan 25 11:47:16 <Namworld>	Of course... but with high volatility, the average price is often much higher or lower than the average used
Jan 25 11:48:06 <Namworld>	So you know which side the average is more likely to go. You start winning if the price stays the same
Jan 25 11:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	but high volatility by definition means price won't.
Jan 25 11:48:56 <Namworld>	That's certainly an improvement of odds. But the same high volatility is what could get you =/
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Jan 25 11:54:42 <Namworld>	i did not really call the top/bottom either.
Jan 25 11:55:09 <Namworld>	I exercise after the fact. The average moves slowly.
Jan 25 11:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 30 @ 0.00654141 = 0.1962 BTC [+]
Jan 25 12:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160N] 3 @ 0.26379201 = 0.7914 BTC [-]
Jan 25 12:01:01 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 25 12:01:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.52251, Best ask: 17.59999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07748, Last trade: 17.61000, 24 hour volume: 161095.15098185, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 19.18999, 24 hour vwap: 16.97983
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Jan 25 12:01:30 <thestringpuller>	one last push
Jan 25 12:01:38 <thestringpuller>	so the 16 callers make their money
Jan 25 12:02:42 <Namworld>	yeah
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Jan 25 12:03:17 <Namworld>	I usually can't help but stick around when I have something going on with money on the line.
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Jan 25 12:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.silverdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/geico-cancels-insurance.jpg
Jan 25 12:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	fake ?
Jan 25 12:08:04 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Jan 25 12:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061382 / 0.0006764 / 0.0007 (11630051 shares, 7,866.59 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.0006509 / 0.0007 (23088165 shares, 15,028.31 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065031 / 0.0007 (51767859 shares, 33,665.41 BTC)
Jan 25 12:08:18 <thestringpuller>	a lot at .0007 got bought
Jan 25 12:08:41 <thestringpuller>	XD congrats mircea ipo phase 2 is now over, what are you going to do now? Disney World?
Jan 25 12:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	nah
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Jan 25 12:09:41 <thestringpuller>	oh wait it wasn't all the .0007's
Jan 25 12:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	disney is possibnly the least appealing place for me.
Jan 25 12:09:49 <thestringpuller>	someone is going to come in and buy those out
Jan 25 12:10:09 <thestringpuller>	my question for you is how do you fight off regulation if it comes?
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Jan 25 12:10:58 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Jan 25 12:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00598118 / 0.00635118 / 0.00699 (54282 shares, 344.76 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00452853 / 0.00699 (982193 shares, 4,447.89 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00417522 / 0.00699 (10255161 shares, 42,817.64 BTC)
Jan 25 12:11:14 <deadweasel>	what country would regulate?
Jan 25 12:11:33 <deadweasel>	whatever country does, there's 250 more that haven't yet.
Jan 25 12:11:45 <deadweasel>	as they do, it will go underground, no?
Jan 25 12:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	depends.
Jan 25 12:12:40 <dasher>	Milky about?
Jan 25 12:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they make me the ecb governor,
Jan 25 12:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	god knows the previous ones sucked.
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Jan 25 12:14:36 <dasher>	weight 93`683 on http://bitbet.us/bet/159/bitcoin-mtgox-18-00-before-march-1st-2013/ didn't get paid out
Jan 25 12:17:37 <deadweasel>	did you bet?
Jan 25 12:18:11 <dasher>	I did
Jan 25 12:18:46 <kakobrekla>	im lookin into it
Jan 25 12:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	yee
Jan 25 12:19:19 <deadweasel>	i've never bet @ bitbet.  do you just send money to an address and it returns it or not?
Jan 25 12:19:41 <dasher>	aye
Jan 25 12:19:58 <dasher>	When you bet you can pick the return type - a specified addy or the sending addy
Jan 25 12:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	dasher : 9093b44f3300f0a89938ccbfcbe1139673c572c4d9011c124a83ad4137a59233
Jan 25 12:21:17 <dasher>	Search that page for the payout amount of 0.10673077 Mircea
Jan 25 12:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	you had a .2 and a .1
Jan 25 12:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	they were conflated into a .3xxx
Jan 25 12:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	12V6zN1RQGx2hAjwhVzJGSD3iTobp1uxKc 0.32011061 BTC
Jan 25 12:21:51 <dasher>	ah - it rolled into the same payment :duh:
Jan 25 12:21:57 <dasher>	ta
Jan 25 12:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	yes if you make multiple bets on the same side for the same bet
Jan 25 12:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	you get only 1 payout
Jan 25 12:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	this is better because it lowers your wallet fragmentation
Jan 25 12:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	tldr : you pay less in fees later.
Jan 25 12:22:38 <dasher>	ta
Jan 25 12:26:06 <deadweasel>	my worked blocked blockchain.info since yesterday
Jan 25 12:26:12 <deadweasel>	jerks
Jan 25 12:26:28 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 25 12:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	um why ?
Jan 25 12:26:50 <deadweasel>	URL: http://blockchain.info/ URL Categories:  Reputation: Medium Risk Media Type:  Client IP: 10.9.7.4 Rule Name: IDEXX-Default Catch All Proxy Name: wme-swg1
Jan 25 12:27:07 <kakobrekla>	cause it <i>contains</i> SD interface
Jan 25 12:27:08 <deadweasel>	with a link to the employe computer handbook
Jan 25 12:27:17 <deadweasel>	ah, possibly.
Jan 25 12:27:29 <EskimoBob_afk>	http://images.zoso.ro/img/2010/01/mircea_popescu.jpg
Jan 25 12:27:42 <EskimoBob_afk>	I want to send all my money to this guy :)
Jan 25 12:27:57 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Jan 25 12:28:03 <Diablo-D3>	its General Zod
Jan 25 12:28:57 <deadweasel>	or Zorg
Jan 25 12:29:10 <EskimoBob_afk>	and the title of this article is "Mircea Popescu is the most influential and smartest man in the world. And Romania."
Jan 25 12:29:24 <EskimoBob_afk>	I am sold!
Jan 25 12:29:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 50 @ 0.34 = 17 BTC [+]
Jan 25 12:29:31 <Diablo-D3>	deadweasel: no, doesnt have the hair to the side for Zorg
Jan 25 12:30:09 <EskimoBob_afk>	http://www.zoso.ro/mircea-popescu-este-cel-mai-influent-si-mai-destept-om-din-lume-si-din-romania/
Jan 25 12:30:11 <deadweasel>	or funny little dog
Jan 25 12:30:31 <kakobrekla>	is that the same suit as in that camel/egypt pic
Jan 25 12:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00062963 = 0.8185 BTC [+]
Jan 25 12:31:24 <jcpham>	translate damn blog
Jan 25 12:31:30 *	jcpham kicks browser
Jan 25 12:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla that ?
Jan 25 12:32:06 <deadweasel>	great translation google:    Faced with some people who think and man becomes a true gibbon, throwing feces around the world.
Jan 25 12:32:13 <deadweasel>	ha
Jan 25 12:32:17 <kakobrekla>	http://chinezu.eu/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gizeh_pyramids.jpg
Jan 25 12:32:28 <EskimoBob_afk>	ok, too early for that shit. Lets be friendly and positive today :)
Jan 25 12:32:39 <mircea_popescu>	ok, that suit, same as which ?
Jan 25 12:32:48 <kakobrekla>	same as 18:27.28 ( EskimoBob_afk ) http://images.zoso.ro/img/2010/01/mircea_popescu.jpg
Jan 25 12:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	nope
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Jan 25 12:33:41 <kakobrekla>	are those clothes comfortable?
Jan 25 12:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	well mine are.
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Jan 25 12:35:12 <jcpham>	what the crap is a gibbon throwing feces
Jan 25 12:35:27 <mircea_popescu>	shit.
Jan 25 12:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	quote the original sentence an' i'll trnalsate for ya.
Jan 25 12:36:32 <jcpham>	nah i read it and understood the context
Jan 25 12:36:41 <jcpham>	you have haters and drama in your blog-ville
Jan 25 12:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	tons.
Jan 25 12:37:45 <mircea_popescu>	romania pretty much consists of a buncha kids trying to make ends meet on +-5k a year
Jan 25 12:37:54 <mircea_popescu>	i am a little bit too much to digest.
Jan 25 12:38:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0086 = 0.86 BTC [+]
Jan 25 12:38:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.09 = 0.45 BTC
Jan 25 12:38:45 <jcpham>	must be all those fancy gold chains you wear
Jan 25 12:38:54 <jcpham>	haters are jealous
Jan 25 12:39:08 <thestringpuller>	Ever seen the South Park episode about the romanian quintuplets?
Jan 25 12:39:16 <jcpham>	i haven't
Jan 25 12:39:35 <mircea_popescu>	me either
Jan 25 12:39:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0163 = 0.0652 BTC [-]
Jan 25 12:39:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.0163 = 0.2282 BTC [-]
Jan 25 12:40:06 <thestringpuller>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintuplets_2000
Jan 25 12:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	ever seen the romanian triplets camhos ?
Jan 25 12:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	o yeah i saw that 1.
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Jan 25 12:41:58 <thestringpuller>	is romania like dat?
Jan 25 12:41:59 <thestringpuller>	haha
Jan 25 12:42:00 <thestringpuller>	i kid
Jan 25 12:42:14 <mircea_popescu>	like what tho lol.
Jan 25 12:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	people don't talk by having the upper half of their head move
Jan 25 12:42:51 <jcpham>	http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/shortcuts/2013/jan/25/game-destroy-cctv-cameras-berlin
Jan 25 12:42:58 <jcpham>	now that sounds like fun
Jan 25 12:43:10 <thestringpuller>	i thought that's what canadians did...
Jan 25 12:43:19 <thestringpuller>	Terrance and Phillip
Jan 25 12:43:21 <Diablo-D3>	I thought that was a goal in portal 1
Jan 25 12:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	pretty good idea.
Jan 25 12:43:48 <jcpham>	man if i had a portal gun the things i could do
Jan 25 12:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	do some things then maybe you get a portal gun
Jan 25 12:44:38 <kakobrekla>	you could do things like you do in Postal
Jan 25 12:44:41 <deadweasel>	it just so happens I'm selling a portal gun for 500btc, you pay now!
Jan 25 12:44:53 <thestringpuller>	Postal was a terrible game though.
Jan 25 12:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8841 @ 0.00063172 = 5.585 BTC [+]
Jan 25 12:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1493 @ 0.0006329 = 0.9449 BTC [+]
Jan 25 12:45:13 <kakobrekla>	well, it was postal.
Jan 25 12:45:21 <thestringpuller>	you could pee o things
Jan 25 12:45:22 <thestringpuller>	on*
Jan 25 12:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	" They claim to have snuffed out as many as 50 cameras since the game began a few weeks ago."
Jan 25 12:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	god damned yurpeans, 0 work efficiency.
Jan 25 12:45:55 <thestringpuller>	aren't you european?
Jan 25 12:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	it takes x people several weeks to destroy 50 cams ?!
Jan 25 12:46:14 <kakobrekla>	we had a simmilar occurance a few weeks ago
Jan 25 12:46:18 <kakobrekla>	burning radars
Jan 25 12:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller in the great european tradition, i am european only when it's convenient to be so.
Jan 25 12:46:35 <kakobrekla>	about 50 or so in ~10 days
Jan 25 12:46:36 <thestringpuller>	:D
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Jan 25 12:48:21 <deadweasel>	that's pretty efficient
Jan 25 12:48:33 <deadweasel>	good on ya!
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Jan 25 12:54:08 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 25 12:54:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.57934, Best ask: 17.67700, Bid-ask spread: 0.09766, Last trade: 17.56491, 24 hour volume: 150106.82667480, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 18.89998, 24 hour vwap: 16.82826
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Jan 25 13:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170N] 3 @ 0.23108932 = 0.6933 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 13:05:36 <pigeons>	!ticker bitch
Jan 25 13:05:37 <assbot>	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
Jan 25 13:05:49 <pigeons>	amen.
Jan 25 13:08:33 <Namworld>	lol at assbot quotes
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Jan 25 13:15:14 <kakobrekla>	Namworld, go watch Dead man
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Jan 25 13:16:32 <Namworld>	hmm
Jan 25 13:16:46 <kakobrekla>	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112817/
Jan 25 13:16:49 <kakobrekla>	this.
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Jan 25 13:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10902 @ 0.00063144 = 6.884 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 13:24:06 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0uUM9tGY5Q
Jan 25 13:24:43 <EskimoBob_afk>	crisp, bone try riesling and cooked snails in garlic ... mmm yummy
Jan 25 13:30:10 <kakobrekla>	there ya go, full movie 10 parts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtUB8XCrqPg
Jan 25 13:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol spreading the word ?
Jan 25 13:30:35 <kakobrekla>	me?
Jan 25 13:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	ye
Jan 25 13:31:48 <kakobrekla>	i guess im trying to raise awarance :)
Jan 25 13:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	:)
Jan 25 13:31:57 <kakobrekla>	its a great flick, i watch it often
Jan 25 13:32:17 <kakobrekla>	the only movie i repeat to watch really
Jan 25 13:32:37 <jcpham>	i do not believe i have watched that
Jan 25 13:33:01 <mircea_popescu>	"We are sorry to shareholders that we are now >2-month delayed against the original plan. (Late Dec. against Late Oct. to get the chips, plus 4-5 weeks against 2-3 weeks to fully deploy). The status are resulted in by a mix of our optimistic projection, our conservative action and our un-developed relation in the electric manufacturing field."
Jan 25 13:33:03 <kakobrekla>	neil young made the soundtrack recoding live while watching the movie
Jan 25 13:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	guess the failsic.
Jan 25 13:33:49 <kakobrekla>	eh
Jan 25 13:33:53 <kakobrekla>	that shit is not full movie at all
Jan 25 13:34:01 <kakobrekla>	apparently it was removed
Jan 25 13:34:06 <kakobrekla>	too bad
Jan 25 13:34:22 <kakobrekla>	jcpham, leech it off somewhere
Jan 25 13:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	Jim Jarmusch - Dead Man (1995) ?
Jan 25 13:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.9892 BTC [-]
Jan 25 13:35:06 <kakobrekla>	yes
Jan 25 13:36:07 <jcpham>	thnaks kakobrekla this sounds interesting
Jan 25 13:36:40 <jcpham>	bASIC was dead 2 weekends ago when Graet email ozcoin miners
Jan 25 13:36:57 <jcpham>	the forum is slow to respond
Jan 25 13:37:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [+]
Jan 25 13:37:29 <Namworld>	Well if anyone is interested, there's 3 increased coupons on BTC-BOND for the next 3 days
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Jan 25 13:37:39 <Namworld>	Well looks like someone noticed already
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Jan 25 13:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.98911 = 2.9673 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 13:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.569 BTC [+]
Jan 25 13:48:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.57 = 5.13 BTC [+]
Jan 25 13:48:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.57 = 11.4 BTC [+]
Jan 25 13:48:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.575 = 2.3 BTC [+]
Jan 25 13:51:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5707 @ 0.0006329 = 3.612 BTC [+]
Jan 25 13:51:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00063318 = 4.1473 BTC [+]
Jan 25 13:51:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2043 @ 0.00063364 = 1.2945 BTC [+]
Jan 25 13:53:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0067 = 0.0335 BTC [+]
Jan 25 13:56:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.0097 = 0.0485 BTC [-]
Jan 25 13:56:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.0097 = 0.097 BTC [-]
Jan 25 13:56:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.0097 = 0.1067 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 13:56:59 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Jan 25 13:57:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.79719, Best ask: 16.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00281, Last trade: 16.80000, 24 hour volume: 142013.99203525, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 18.25000, 24 hour vwap: 16.69648
Jan 25 13:57:08 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 25 13:57:09 <gribble>	16.73
Jan 25 13:57:15 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 25 13:57:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.44000000 / 0.53724797 / 0.57500000 (123 shares, 66.08149986 BTC), 7D: 0.44000000 / 0.54953918 / 0.62000000 (1013 shares, 556.68318952 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.47735229 / 0.62000000 (4741 shares, 2263.12718940 BTC)
Jan 25 13:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	topace did you get any of the selloff btw ?
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Jan 25 13:58:28 <topace>	from the other night?
Jan 25 13:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	yea
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Jan 25 13:58:44 <topace>	not much, i think i had 10000 bid listed at 0.52 or something
Jan 25 13:58:47 <topace>	that got filled
Jan 25 13:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	when it went to .008 or w/e
Jan 25 13:58:55 <Namworld>	0.0008
Jan 25 13:58:58 <topace>	heh yea
Jan 25 13:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Jan 25 13:59:06 <topace>	wish i had some lower bids in :p
Jan 25 13:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	im curious who the sniper was
Jan 25 13:59:34 <topace>	havelock has 345,000 shares -- getting up there
Jan 25 13:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3570 @ 0.00063144 = 2.2542 BTC [-]
Jan 25 13:59:41 <Namworld>	I wish I had known and taken the 500k at 0.0008
Jan 25 13:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	400btc well spent lol
Jan 25 14:00:05 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 25 14:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	maybe not 1000% returns on them, but 500% for sure
Jan 25 14:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	and people say pirate was a ponzi.
Jan 25 14:00:42 <kakobrekla>	so not!
Jan 25 14:00:54 <Namworld>	I was making almost as much on GLBSE stocks volatility...
Jan 25 14:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	pirate was curdled milk by comparison lol
Jan 25 14:01:02 <Namworld>	I love volatility
Jan 25 14:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i doubt you were making 500% over 400 btc.
Jan 25 14:01:21 <Namworld>	Not that much
Jan 25 14:01:29 <Namworld>	But close to pirate at 7% per week
Jan 25 14:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	a
Jan 25 14:01:45 <Namworld>	I was close to doubling my amount every 3 months
Jan 25 14:01:59 <Namworld>	tho by the end the volume on GLBSE was limiting me.
Jan 25 14:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	yes, the thing with btc securities is, trading fees very small, volatility kinda high
Jan 25 14:02:11 <mircea_popescu>	if you know what you're doing it should make decent returns
Jan 25 14:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	course it will crowd in time, as people start grasping it
Jan 25 14:02:35 <Namworld>	Well anyway, I'm taking off. Back in about 30 minutes
Jan 25 14:02:45 <jurov>	Namworld, you should prolly open investment fund in bitfunder or so
Jan 25 14:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't he have one ?
Jan 25 14:03:10 <jurov>	these 2% bondses?
Jan 25 14:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	iirc he had some sort of fund
Jan 25 14:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	cause i remember looking over an asset sheet
Jan 25 14:03:33 <Namworld>	It was for BTC-BOND
Jan 25 14:03:47 <Namworld>	I had a 200% loan value in assets guarantee
Jan 25 14:04:12 <Namworld>	I was forced to remove it and reduce interest for anyone transfering to BTCT.co
Jan 25 14:04:24 <Namworld>	Paid out the others
Jan 25 14:04:26 <mircea_popescu>	forced ?!
Jan 25 14:04:34 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, bbl!
Jan 25 14:04:36 <Namworld>	Well, with GLBSE down
Jan 25 14:04:55 <Namworld>	Where were my 200% in GLBSE assets? All gone. I'm slowly getting money back
Jan 25 14:05:14 <Namworld>	Plus I felt I was guaranteeing too much interest
Jan 25 14:05:33 <Namworld>	jurov: no fund when I can borrow at 10.95% per year =/
Jan 25 14:05:42 <Bugpowder_>	DIVE DIVE DIVE
Jan 25 14:05:46 <Namworld>	and keep profits
Jan 25 14:05:55 <jurov>	lol, i can borrow at 0% for 3 weeks :P
Jan 25 14:06:03 <Namworld>	sweet
Jan 25 14:06:52 <Namworld>	FUCK
Jan 25 14:06:56 <Namworld>	16.60 average
Jan 25 14:07:01 <Bugpowder_>	dude
Jan 25 14:07:12 <Bugpowder_>	24vwap is gonna keep falling
Jan 25 14:07:16 <Bugpowder_>	no matter what happens
Jan 25 14:07:18 <Namworld>	I lost lots of money selling my puts
Jan 25 14:07:29 <Bugpowder_>	I am making a killing right now
Jan 25 14:07:33 <Namworld>	eh
Jan 25 14:09:16 <Bugpowder_>	;;ticker
Jan 25 14:09:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.01651, Best ask: 17.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03349, Last trade: 16.85900, 24 hour volume: 141238.37356347, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 18.25000, 24 hour vwap: 16.68190
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Jan 25 14:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.575 = 3.45 BTC [+]
Jan 25 14:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.595 = 8.925 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 14:25:53 <pigeons>	i am making a killing? either you sold and made one, or you have paper
Jan 25 14:26:22 <EskimoBob_afk>	LOL, my kid walked up and told me: Let's listen more rock classics
Jan 25 14:26:24 <EskimoBob_afk>	:)
Jan 25 14:26:54 <vector_>	anyone invested with bitfunder?
Jan 25 14:26:57 <EskimoBob_afk>	 baba o'riley by Who, AC/DC etc :)
Jan 25 14:27:14 <EskimoBob_afk>	vector_: i have some stuff over ther
Jan 25 14:27:22 <EskimoBob_afk>	10K btc or so
Jan 25 14:27:32 <vector_>	how is it so far?
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Jan 25 14:28:13 <pigeons>	so how many of these https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/S.BBET-PT equals one S.BBET ?
Jan 25 14:29:57 <kakobrekla>	dunno 1:1?
Jan 25 14:32:22 <pigeons>	its kinda funny
Jan 25 14:32:49 <pigeons>	Mk Cap: 2,537 i'm thinking that's shares?
Jan 25 14:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	who runs that pt actually ?
Jan 25 14:33:24 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 25 14:33:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0010499 / 0.00111197 / 0.001139 (989 shares, 1.10 BTC), 7D: 0.00100006 / 0.00102592 / 0.00129998 (23060 shares, 23.66 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00078442 / 0.0035 (2269672 shares, 1,780.38 BTC)
Jan 25 14:33:29 <jurov>	Deprived does
Jan 25 14:33:34 <pigeons>	"deprived" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136912.0
Jan 25 14:33:45 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 0.001*2537
Jan 25 14:33:45 <gribble>	2.537
Jan 25 14:33:55 <kakobrekla>	wow.
Jan 25 14:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	someone should point out to deprived it;s spelled underlying
Jan 25 14:34:07 <pigeons>	i saw that ;)
Jan 25 14:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	and also he fucked up the last bit
Jan 25 14:34:23 <mircea_popescu>	The only item in that of any great
Jan 25 14:34:23 <mircea_popescu>	relevance to this pass-through will be the number of S-Dice shares listed as
Jan 25 14:34:23 <mircea_popescu>	held by LTC-ATF (which will always be at least as large as the number of
Jan 25 14:34:23 <mircea_popescu>	outstanding units of this security).
Jan 25 14:34:31 <jcpham>	sanity requires that i down-vote all passthroughs
Jan 25 14:34:50 <jurov>	maybe you remember i was reporting here when he started it and worried about covering coinbr fees
Jan 25 14:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov a yes
Jan 25 14:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	well... they work on a different schedule in ltc
Jan 25 14:35:13 <mircea_popescu>	what is it, .3 cents each ?
Jan 25 14:35:23 <jurov>	0.0037 atm
Jan 25 14:35:28 <pigeons>	LTC/USD 0.061796
Jan 25 14:35:28 <jurov>	*BTC
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Jan 25 14:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	a so .4 ok
Jan 25 14:35:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00063145 = 0.0631 BTC [+]
Jan 25 14:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	must have gone up
Jan 25 14:35:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00063144 = 4.0728 BTC [-]
Jan 25 14:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham why ? seems kinda educational
Jan 25 14:37:16 <jcpham>	i'm being an ass
Jan 25 14:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	tot vol 2,644	mkt cap 2,537
Jan 25 14:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	wtf ?!
Jan 25 14:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	24h Vol 861@274.9 7d Vol 6144@2094.3
Jan 25 14:38:06 <mircea_popescu>	why does this stuff make absolutely no sense
Jan 25 14:38:19 <jcpham>	bitcoin!
Jan 25 14:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	o wait
Jan 25 14:38:28 <kakobrekla>	litecoin.
Jan 25 14:38:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's not @ as in at, it's / as in shares/ltcs ?
Jan 25 14:39:02 <kakobrekla>	sum shares sum vol?
Jan 25 14:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	i guess ?
Jan 25 14:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  274.9 / 861
Jan 25 14:39:14 <gribble>	0.319279907085
Jan 25 14:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  2094.3/6144
Jan 25 14:39:25 <gribble>	0.340869140625
Jan 25 14:40:37 <jurov>	i was curious recetly, computed total mkt cap of litecoin in btc
Jan 25 14:40:44 <jurov>	any guesses?
Jan 25 14:40:55 <kakobrekla>	10k
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Jan 25 14:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	3k
Jan 25 14:41:36 <Namjies>	Well that was stupid
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Jan 25 14:42:46 <Namworld>	I saw when I woke up price go over the average and exercised. I totally forgot the 19 USD/BTC trades were about to go out of the 24h period.
Jan 25 14:43:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 25 14:43:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.35114, Best ask: 17.35243, Bid-ask spread: 0.00129, Last trade: 17.35113, 24 hour volume: 132205.38784117, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 17.79700, 24 hour vwap: 16.60856
Jan 25 14:43:20 <pigeons>	jurov: ?
Jan 25 14:43:40 <jurov>	;;calc 0.00369*284627*50
Jan 25 14:43:40 <gribble>	52513.6815
Jan 25 14:43:45 <jurov>	^this
Jan 25 14:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	52k btc ? srsly ?!
Jan 25 14:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was a new chain
Jan 25 14:44:53 <Namworld>	I exercised 3 hours ago at 17.01 for 212.
Jan 25 14:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	a
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Jan 25 14:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	let's see here
Jan 25 14:45:23 <Namworld>	If I had waited for the high trade to expires and exercised at the low 16.60, would have gotten 262.55421096 BTC instead
Jan 25 14:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	well... it COULD have spiked up
Jan 25 14:46:19 <Namworld>	Well yes, but that would have required to outmatch the large trades at ~18.5-19 USD that were about to expire
Jan 25 14:46:25 <Namworld>	weighting in the 24h average
Jan 25 14:46:36 <Namworld>	Somewhat unlikely
Jan 25 14:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	that's a point
Jan 25 14:47:00 <Namworld>	I haven't slept much... making stupid mistakes.
Jan 25 14:47:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 494 @ 0.00063364 = 0.313 BTC [+]
Jan 25 14:47:10 <Namworld>	Yet I have to watch my trades. A bit annoying.
Jan 25 14:47:45 <Namworld>	At least I'm more than decently in the green
Jan 25 14:47:48 <mircea_popescu>	hehe welcome to the life of the daytrader
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Jan 25 14:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0006346 = 4.6326 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 15:14:06 <Bugpowder_>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 25 15:14:07 <gribble>	16.71
Jan 25 15:18:44 <Namworld>	going up... exercise
Jan 25 15:18:48 <Namworld>	all puts
Jan 25 15:19:09 <Namworld>	I forgot to wait for the 19 USD trades to expire... but now it's done.
Jan 25 15:19:17 <Namworld>	Should go up from now on
Jan 25 15:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8251 @ 0.00063605 = 5.248 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00063606 = 13.3573 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9097 @ 0.00063759 = 5.8002 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5017 @ 0.0006403 = 3.2124 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00064112 = 10.3541 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:52 <Bugpowder_>	just exercised them all
Jan 25 15:19:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8280 @ 0.00064174 = 5.3136 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00064267 = 4.4987 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.0006432 = 4.631 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00064447 = 5.5747 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11879 @ 0.00064523 = 7.6647 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5980 @ 0.00064531 = 3.859 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:19:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00064663 = 2.6835 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.0006482 = 4.0513 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32693 @ 0.00064857 = 21.2037 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00065519 = 5.1105 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00065552 = 10.1606 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43993 @ 0.00065576 = 28.8488 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00065764 = 27.029 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.0006595 = 14.0474 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22250 @ 0.0006725 = 14.9631 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18525 @ 0.00067525 = 12.509 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00068233 = 9.8256 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:20:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39400 @ 0.00068745 = 27.0855 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:22:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00649884 = 3.2494 BTC [-]
Jan 25 15:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2990 @ 0.00654141 = 19.5588 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1610 @ 0.00654142 = 10.5317 BTC [+]
Jan 25 15:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00656628 = 1.9699 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 15:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 300 @ 0.0010499 = 0.315 BTC [-]
Jan 25 15:28:45 <jurov>	http://blockviewer.com/#1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
Jan 25 15:30:40 <jurov>	^^ bane of everyone who listed their btc addy in btctalk profile
Jan 25 15:31:17 <Bugpowder_>	missed the bottom by 0.1 BTC :(  lost 22BTC
Jan 25 15:34:19 <Namworld>	How much did you make =P
Jan 25 15:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00064895 = 1.5218 BTC [-]
Jan 25 15:34:52 <Bugpowder_>	~100%
Jan 25 15:34:58 <Namworld>	Nice
Jan 25 15:35:14 <Namworld>	Pretty much the same as me. Could have made 150%
Jan 25 15:35:27 *	Namworld is angry at himself
Jan 25 15:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	jurov does that graph mean mpex is like a hairy zit ?
Jan 25 15:37:01 <jurov>	or an octopus
Jan 25 15:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ update the parabolzi
Jan 25 15:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	im like, addicted to it lol
Jan 25 15:38:28 <mircea_popescu>	vicarious trader at work
Jan 25 15:38:38 <jurov>	Right now it scrapes Bitcoin-OTC and BitcoinTalk forum signatures to initially seed the labels... oh beware :D
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Jan 25 15:46:28 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 25 15:46:29 <gribble>	16.72
Jan 25 15:46:37 <deadweasel>	kinda expecting $14-15 tomorrow
Jan 25 15:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00069998 = 11.4097 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 15:50:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00636682 = 1.91 BTC [-]
Jan 25 15:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 242 @ 0.00636679 = 1.5408 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 16:01:24 <Bugpowder_>	I will update it once the opex happens
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Jan 25 16:02:40 <Bugpowder_>	If I put open orders on the N contracts do they stay open when the N rolls to T?
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Jan 25 16:03:44 <RonnieS>	Hi all. Not quite sure I understand the weight on bitbet. Can someone msg me the calc to find how much I COULD win, based on weight. Thx :)
Jan 25 16:04:54 <Namworld>	kakobrekla, some question for you I guess
Jan 25 16:06:59 <EskimoBob_afk>	where did vector go?
Jan 25 16:08:52 <EskimoBob_afk>	never mind
Jan 25 16:08:57 <Namworld>	he vectored into an exponanial function shape and was propulsed into space
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Jan 25 16:09:50 <Namworld>	He's going faster and faster with time passing by and should exceed the speed of light soon.
Jan 25 16:10:51 <Bugpowder_>	http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5ETNX
Jan 25 16:10:57 <Bugpowder_>	big move!
Jan 25 16:11:22 <Bugpowder_>	people moving out of bonds into the market?
Jan 25 16:11:49 <mircea_popescu>	RonnieS it just works like it generally does with betting.
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Jan 25 16:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7063 @ 0.00068512 = 4.839 BTC [-]
Jan 25 16:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	out of a pool of 3 the 1 with full weight wins 2x more than the 1 witgh half weight
Jan 25 16:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ no, orders are killed.
Jan 25 16:12:35 <Bugpowder_>	ok
Jan 25 16:13:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 638 @ 0.00635543 = 4.0548 BTC [-]
Jan 25 16:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20 @ 0.00635543 = 0.1271 BTC [-]
Jan 25 16:16:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6651 @ 0.00068326 = 4.5444 BTC [-]
Jan 25 16:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170N] 3 @ 0.14496282 = 0.4349 BTC [-]
Jan 25 16:19:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160N] 6 @ 0.16945017 = 1.0167 BTC [-]
Jan 25 16:20:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160N] 3 @ 0.13518966 = 0.4056 BTC [-]
Jan 25 16:21:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170N] 3 @ 0.16277102 = 0.4883 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 16:22:29 <RonnieS>	thx, get it
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Jan 25 16:48:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 25 @ 0.01 = 0.25 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 16:51:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.13 = 0.65 BTC [+]
Jan 25 16:55:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0202 = 2.02 BTC [+]
Jan 25 16:55:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0201 = 2.01 BTC [-]
Jan 25 16:55:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.02 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Jan 25 17:00:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0087 = 0.87 BTC [+]
Jan 25 17:02:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2655 @ 0.00068326 = 1.8141 BTC [-]
Jan 25 17:02:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8195 @ 0.00067873 = 5.5622 BTC [-]
Jan 25 17:04:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0088 = 0.88 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 17:05:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130 @ 0.00067873 = 0.0882 BTC [-]
Jan 25 17:05:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 524 @ 0.00067125 = 0.3517 BTC [-]
Jan 25 17:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6303 @ 0.00066887 = 4.2159 BTC [-]
Jan 25 17:05:43 <Bugpowder>	All of the S.DICE whales have a similar visualizer chart
Jan 25 17:05:45 <Bugpowder>	http://blockviewer.com/#1Di6ux3CQBNXCZLD76BsnYWDo6XnFGzQah
Jan 25 17:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.595 = 5.95 BTC [+]
Jan 25 17:06:12 <Bugpowder>	Is the drake dog;leominer address a mixing service?
Jan 25 17:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.599 = 5.99 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 17:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.62 = 4.34 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 17:09:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0089 = 0.89 BTC [+]
Jan 25 17:12:08 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 25 17:12:09 <gribble>	16.68
Jan 25 17:12:15 <Bugpowder>	damnit!  it went lower?
Jan 25 17:13:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 29 @ 0.01 = 0.29 BTC [+]
Jan 25 17:18:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 150 @ 0.009 = 1.35 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 17:22:43 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Jan 25 17:22:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.33512, Best ask: 17.47562, Bid-ask spread: 0.14050, Last trade: 17.33310, 24 hour volume: 86322.83896858, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 17.79700, 24 hour vwap: 16.67646
Jan 25 17:25:46 <Chilca_>	;;ticker
Jan 25 17:25:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.35330, Best ask: 17.49695, Bid-ask spread: 0.14365, Last trade: 17.34522, 24 hour volume: 85549.80223109, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 17.79700, 24 hour vwap: 16.67057
Jan 25 17:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1644 @ 0.00068512 = 1.1263 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 17:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 675 @ 0.00634 = 4.2795 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 17:41:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 75 @ 0.00631463 = 0.4736 BTC [-]
Jan 25 17:41:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 22 @ 0.01 = 0.22 BTC [+]
Jan 25 17:45:48 <EskimoBob_afk>	I have a great idea. I am going to have few weeks of paid vacation. This shit hole Rumenia looks interesting. Maybe I can go and visit this pompous ass mircea ?
Jan 25 17:47:05 <jcpham>	sounds like agood idea except i doubt he'd have you as a guest EskimoBob_afk
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Jan 25 17:47:13 <jcpham>	just a guess
Jan 25 17:47:56 <EskimoBob_afk>	jcpham: he is probably a local joke or something
Jan 25 17:48:30 <EskimoBob_afk>	I'll take my camera and make pictures of him
Jan 25 17:48:57 <jcpham>	it isn't wise to judge a culture you know anything about
Jan 25 17:49:04 <jcpham>	i know nothing of romanian culture
Jan 25 17:49:18 <EskimoBob_afk>	jcpham: how do you know that I know nothing?
Jan 25 17:49:26 <jcpham>	although iirc mp is more international than romanian
Jan 25 17:49:31 <EskimoBob_afk>	lol
Jan 25 17:49:42 <jcpham>	i actually didn't imply that you knew nothing
Jan 25 17:49:43 <EskimoBob_afk>	now I like to visy you and take pictures
Jan 25 17:49:52 <jcpham>	bring it
Jan 25 17:50:06 <EskimoBob_afk>	not that I collect photos of village idiots or something
Jan 25 17:50:14 <jcpham>	facepalm
Jan 25 17:50:17 <EskimoBob_afk>	indeed
Jan 25 17:50:38 <jcpham>	make sure to get a full body shot of mpoe-pr if you go
Jan 25 17:50:41 <jcpham>	forsure
Jan 25 17:50:45 <EskimoBob_afk>	why?
Jan 25 17:50:50 <kakobrekla>	i dunno why we need more pic of mp
Jan 25 17:50:56 <kakobrekla>	theres more than enough online
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Jan 25 17:51:08 <jcpham>	i think mpoe-pr might be transexual
Jan 25 17:51:23 <jcpham>	make sure to get an angle under the chin
Jan 25 17:51:40 <EskimoBob_afk>	jcpham: I leave that task to you.
Jan 25 17:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	transsexual which direction ?
Jan 25 17:51:52 <jcpham>	boobs plus weiner
Jan 25 17:52:03 <mircea_popescu>	ya but
Jan 25 17:52:23 <kakobrekla>	butt too.
Jan 25 17:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 25 17:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	actually if she had a dick i doubt it'd be a wiener
Jan 25 17:52:47 <jcpham>	huge blck cock
Jan 25 17:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	more like the stuff nightmares are made of
Jan 25 17:53:04 <jcpham>	i figured a full body shot would expose the bulge
Jan 25 17:53:15 <EskimoBob_afk>	is tat retard mpoe-pr in romania too?
Jan 25 17:53:29 <EskimoBob_afk>	so I can get pictures of two local jokes?
Jan 25 17:54:34 <EskimoBob_afk>	do I need to bring anything special? Food? Books?
Jan 25 17:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i guess pics of me are like pics of asics
Jan 25 17:55:07 <EskimoBob_afk>	Candy? To get those two lunatics to dance for me or somethig
Jan 25 17:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	people need them to jack themselves off to sleep
Jan 25 17:55:41 <EskimoBob_afk>	mircea_popescu: sorry, but you look like shit
Jan 25 17:55:59 <kakobrekla>	jesus fuck all that sexy ladies jack off to to sleep is you?!?
Jan 25 17:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	just the transsexual ones
Jan 25 17:56:18 <EskimoBob_afk>	http://images.zoso.ro/img/2010/01/mircea_popescu.jpg
Jan 25 17:56:31 <EskimoBob_afk>	did I really have to post that AGAIN!
Jan 25 17:56:32 <kakobrekla>	ah, sheesh. makes sense.
Jan 25 17:56:50 <jcpham>	but you have so many more options with a transexual
Jan 25 17:56:52 <jcpham>	!
Jan 25 17:56:57 <kakobrekla>	EskimoBob_afk are you in love?
Jan 25 17:57:01 <kakobrekla>	nice beard.
Jan 25 17:57:16 <EskimoBob_afk>	i mena, if guy sounds like a lunatic in ir, and looks like a lunatic on this picture.. he must be a all swell guy
Jan 25 17:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham from what i understand, the problem chiefly is that so do they.
Jan 25 17:57:32 <EskimoBob_afk>	kakobrekla: :)
Jan 25 17:57:33 <jcpham>	make sense
Jan 25 17:57:52 <kakobrekla>	i dont see anything 'lunatic' on that pic
Jan 25 17:57:53 <jcpham>	EskimoBob_afk i sound like a lunatic irl
Jan 25 17:57:58 <EskimoBob_afk>	kakobrekla: are you jealous?
Jan 25 17:58:02 <Bugpowder>	natty threads
Jan 25 17:58:09 <EskimoBob_afk>	jcpham: you do
Jan 25 17:58:13 <EskimoBob_afk>	lol
Jan 25 17:58:23 <jcpham>	i try to on the internet too
Jan 25 17:58:32 <jcpham>	sometimes it doesn't translate well...
Jan 25 17:58:47 <kakobrekla>	EskimoBob_afk, not really, i think 'love' is a bag of horse shit but thats beside the point.
Jan 25 17:59:19 <EskimoBob_afk>	jcpham: but to become a narcissistic fuck like mircea, you need to work on that
Jan 25 17:59:45 <EskimoBob_afk>	kakobrekla: oh really? When did she dump you?
Jan 25 17:59:54 <kakobrekla>	bitch came back.
Jan 25 18:00:05 <EskimoBob_afk>	or are you fat and unfit for women?
Jan 25 18:00:28 <kakobrekla>	yes i have over 9000 tonnes and only vagina i ever saw was my mothers when i was born
Jan 25 18:00:30 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 25 18:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklas are born blind
Jan 25 18:00:55 <EskimoBob_afk>	kakobrekla: sure she did. Unless you are talking about your palm and 5 fingers
Jan 25 18:01:09 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Jan 25 18:01:21 *	EskimoBob_afk is now known as EskimoBob_not_so
Jan 25 18:01:45 <EskimoBob_not_so>	kakobrekla: i think it's called Sally and her five sisters
Jan 25 18:01:50 <EskimoBob_not_so>	or something like that
Jan 25 18:01:59 <kakobrekla>	you the expert.
Jan 25 18:02:06 <EskimoBob_not_so>	I learned form you kakobrekla
Jan 25 18:02:19 <kakobrekla>	you should learn more then.
Jan 25 18:02:25 <EskimoBob_not_so>	why?
Jan 25 18:02:32 <kakobrekla>	cause you are off? :)
Jan 25 18:02:48 <EskimoBob_not_so>	but you suck, kakobrekla :)
Jan 25 18:02:54 <kakobrekla>	and you blow.
Jan 25 18:03:00 <kakobrekla>	we all happy.
Jan 25 18:03:19 <EskimoBob_not_so>	nice to see you happy
Jan 25 18:03:27 <kakobrekla>	ty.
Jan 25 18:03:33 *	EskimoBob_not_so hugs kakobrekla
Jan 25 18:03:36 <jcpham>	it's rosy red-pal and her 5 sisters. sheesh
Jan 25 18:03:44 <jcpham>	*red-palm
Jan 25 18:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4036 @ 0.0006875 = 2.7748 BTC [+]
Jan 25 18:03:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Jan 25 18:03:59 *	kakobrekla hugs back EskimoBob_not_so and spreads his ass chicks just as he likes it.
Jan 25 18:04:06 <EskimoBob_not_so>	jcpham: you are right probably
Jan 25 18:04:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 6 @ 0.54 = 3.24 BTC [+]
Jan 25 18:04:24 <EskimoBob_not_so>	hold on, kakobrekla, did you spread your ass cheeks?
Jan 25 18:04:32 <EskimoBob_not_so>	or did you just touch my ass?
Jan 25 18:04:41 <EskimoBob_not_so>	what are you kakobrekla? A fkn pervert?
Jan 25 18:04:42 <kakobrekla>	yes, sry, 'cheeks'
Jan 25 18:04:44 <EskimoBob_not_so>	damn
Jan 25 18:04:58 <kakobrekla>	hey you came hugging, perv.
Jan 25 18:05:02 <kakobrekla>	;)
Jan 25 18:05:38 <kakobrekla>	like a fuckin bitch, ya know
Jan 25 18:05:38 <EskimoBob_not_so>	I am sorry you have bad memories of men hugging you... I did not know
Jan 25 18:05:41 <kakobrekla>	i just follow along.
Jan 25 18:06:35 *	EskimoBob_not_so hugs kakobrekla (not like a faggot, but like a dear friend)
Jan 25 18:06:44 <EskimoBob_not_so>	do you feel better now?
Jan 25 18:06:52 <kakobrekla>	i feel great all along.
Jan 25 18:06:56 <EskimoBob_not_so>	super!
Jan 25 18:08:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/all-about-eve/ << great movie btw.
Jan 25 18:09:43 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 25 18:09:44 <gribble>	16.68
Jan 25 18:09:52 <EskimoBob_not_so>	mircea_popescu: do you really think that anyone gives a flying fuck what you write to your blog? I know people make fun of you over there but that's it
Jan 25 18:10:03 <JWU42>	jcpham: can you set a ban on JWU42`*!*@* in bitcoin-otc
Jan 25 18:10:07 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138769.msg1479116#msg1479116 they're having fun
Jan 25 18:10:34 <JWU42>	third or fourth time soeone has been playing games with my handle and trying to scam folks
Jan 25 18:11:14 <jcpham>	it's done. not sure if one of the other ops will remove it or not
Jan 25 18:11:32 <jcpham>	i'm sort of just flying blind
Jan 25 18:12:15 <EskimoBob_not_so>	JWU42: you need to read the message the bot send you when you log in to otc channel
Jan 25 18:12:34 <JWU42>	and why is that?
Jan 25 18:12:43 <EskimoBob_not_so>	read the fkn message
Jan 25 18:12:45 <jcpham>	yeah EskimoBob_not_so come over to #bitcoin-otc so i can kick you
Jan 25 18:12:49 <jcpham>	just one time
Jan 25 18:12:54 <jcpham>	it won't hurt i promise
Jan 25 18:12:56 <JWU42>	or better yet - why do you think I haven't
Jan 25 18:13:14 *	Bugpowder has quit (Quit: Page closed)
Jan 25 18:13:21 *	EskimoBob_not_so kicks jcpham under his skirt... really fkn hard
Jan 25 18:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	JWU42 wouldn't it be easier to just reg it ?
Jan 25 18:13:28 <JWU42>	yes
Jan 25 18:13:34 <JWU42>	well
Jan 25 18:13:35 <JWU42>	no
Jan 25 18:13:37 <EskimoBob_not_so>	reg your fkn name and be done with it
Jan 25 18:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	o ic :p
Jan 25 18:13:40 <JWU42>	easier to ban that nick
Jan 25 18:13:47 <jcpham>	it's not his nick
Jan 25 18:13:53 <jcpham>	it's someone squatting
Jan 25 18:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	i hadbn't noticed the accent
Jan 25 18:13:55 <JWU42>	EskimoBob_not_so: learn to read you shithead
Jan 25 18:13:59 <jcpham>	you could reg the `
Jan 25 18:14:02 <jcpham>	then they'
Jan 25 18:14:06 <EskimoBob_not_so>	lol
Jan 25 18:14:11 <jcpham>	or /nickserv group it
Jan 25 18:14:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6626 @ 0.0006875 = 4.5554 BTC [+]
Jan 25 18:14:16 <JWU42>	they are using JWU42`
Jan 25 18:14:17 <jcpham>	but then they'll just use another char
Jan 25 18:14:22 <EskimoBob_not_so>	what a little moron
Jan 25 18:14:27 <JWU42>	jcpham: yep - probably so
Jan 25 18:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	jee whiz, i wonder how many people pretended to be me in -otc so far
Jan 25 18:14:54 <jcpham>	EskimoBob_not_so it's a coomon scam in -otc
Jan 25 18:14:59 <jcpham>	it fools noobs pretty well
Jan 25 18:15:26 <EskimoBob_not_so>	mircea_popescu: nobody wants to be you! LOL!
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Jan 25 18:16:50 <EskimoBob_not_so>	JWU42: so what is it you are exactly whining about and why here, in #bitcoin-assets ?
Jan 25 18:17:12 <kakobrekla>	same question goes to you EskimoBob_not_so
Jan 25 18:17:26 <EskimoBob_not_so>	jcpham: maybe they need to update the good bot over there to add some protection?
Jan 25 18:18:30 *	jurov brings everyone peace, happiness and unicorns http://unicornify.appspot.com/use-it
Jan 25 18:18:37 <EskimoBob_not_so>	kakobrekla: are you still crying over that nice hug? I am sorry your dad and his friends made you suck their dicks. I did not know
Jan 25 18:18:56 <kakobrekla>	no its not about the hug.
Jan 25 18:18:57 <EskimoBob_not_so>	you are free to fuck off now
Jan 25 18:19:05 <kakobrekla>	its about your dicking around here :)
Jan 25 18:19:21 <EskimoBob_not_so>	kakobrekla: i must have hurt your feelings somehow
Jan 25 18:19:34 <kakobrekla>	dunno if i have those
Jan 25 18:19:41 <kakobrekla>	i heard i have a rock
Jan 25 18:19:45 <EskimoBob_not_so>	can you be so kind and tell me, exactly how?
Jan 25 18:19:57 <EskimoBob_not_so>	kakobrekla: sure you do
Jan 25 18:20:06 <jurov>	it's not about feelings... he has to wipe stuff after you again
Jan 25 18:20:12 <kakobrekla>	maybe instead of brains too :o
Jan 25 18:20:59 <EskimoBob_not_so>	kakobrekla: reading this crap you write, I am sure you have some deep emotional issues. Brain? This is a different story.
Jan 25 18:21:24 <kakobrekla>	you provoke crap out of me
Jan 25 18:21:31 <kakobrekla>	its what you are good at and i guess for.
Jan 25 18:21:51 <jurov>	kakobrekla, please lay down on the couch and feel comfortably
Jan 25 18:21:59 <EskimoBob_not_so>	kakobrekla: I am a nice guy who dislikes scumbags
Jan 25 18:22:27 <EskimoBob_not_so>	scumbags like mircea and some of hist not so bright sock puppets
Jan 25 18:22:30 <EskimoBob_not_so>	this is all.
Jan 25 18:22:48 <jurov>	me too?
Jan 25 18:22:55 <EskimoBob_not_so>	if I make you feel uncomfortable... problem is in you
Jan 25 18:22:59 <EskimoBob_not_so>	and not me :)
Jan 25 18:23:00 <jurov>	what i i did you?
Jan 25 18:23:55 <EskimoBob_not_so>	jurov: you are just an idiot and there is nothing I can do about it :) honestly. I have nothing against you
Jan 25 18:23:57 *	jurov feels seriously misunderestimated
Jan 25 18:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 25 18:24:24 <kakobrekla>	is there anyone who is not an idiot ?
Jan 25 18:24:43 <EskimoBob_not_so>	yes
Jan 25 18:24:52 <kakobrekla>	excluding you?
Jan 25 18:24:56 <TradeFortress>	come get popcon!
Jan 25 18:24:56 <EskimoBob_not_so>	most of people are not actually
Jan 25 18:25:34 <kakobrekla>	any of these most are present here?
Jan 25 18:25:41 <EskimoBob_not_so>	so what I make fun of that gypsy fuck and his muppets... big deal
Jan 25 18:26:10 <EskimoBob_not_so>	I think you muppets are the only ones :)
Jan 25 18:26:44 <jurov>	pls point me to the funny line of yours? i don't see any
Jan 25 18:26:54 <kakobrekla>	so nobody is a non-idiot here according to you?
Jan 25 18:27:05 <EskimoBob_not_so>	oh really? :)
Jan 25 18:27:22 *	EskimoBob_not_so gets some popcorn
Jan 25 18:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00068533 = 0.9937 BTC [-]
Jan 25 18:27:39 <EskimoBob_not_so>	amuse me, you little muppets
Jan 25 18:27:43 <jurov>	kako, calm down.... let's wait till he comes to romania and sells himself to slavery for some btc
Jan 25 18:28:08 <kakobrekla>	im calm
Jan 25 18:28:23 <kakobrekla>	i just wanna know why he eskimo like the company of idiots
Jan 25 18:28:57 <jurov>	oh, maybe you mean these voices of his?
Jan 25 18:29:22 <kakobrekla>	where did he go now
Jan 25 18:29:31 <kakobrekla>	i have a new bed to asseble, bbl
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Jan 25 18:31:36 <EskimoBob_not_so>	what? Is that it?
Jan 25 18:32:06 <EskimoBob_not_so>	where is the entertainment?
Jan 25 18:32:31 <EskimoBob_not_so>	you 2 muppets suck. Next ones please
Jan 25 18:32:47 <jurov>	you did not respond.. why do you enjoy associating with idiots like us?
Jan 25 18:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 25 18:33:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.33266, Best ask: 17.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11734, Last trade: 17.33266, 24 hour volume: 80695.71849538, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 17.79700, 24 hour vwap: 16.65655
Jan 25 18:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 8206621.2305 / 17
Jan 25 18:33:58 <gribble>	482742.425324
Jan 25 18:34:01 <EskimoBob_not_so>	jurov: you see, it is actually funny (and only time you are funny) when you think that people are laughing with you ... while they are laughing AT you :)
Jan 25 18:34:18 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Jan 25 18:34:18 <assbot>	I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
Jan 25 18:34:26 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Jan 25 18:34:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.33271, Best ask: 17.44999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11728, Last trade: 17.33266, 24 hour volume: 80695.71849538, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 17.79700, 24 hour vwap: 16.65655
Jan 25 18:34:34 <Diablo-D3>	;;bids 17.33271
Jan 25 18:34:36 <gribble>	There are currently 0.99202 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.33271 USD, worth 17.2610301936 USD in total.
Jan 25 18:34:40 <jurov>	Nuff said. <assbot> I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
Jan 25 18:34:44 <Diablo-D3>	;;bids 17
Jan 25 18:34:46 <gribble>	There are currently 2575.4113 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 44124.7036667 USD in total.
Jan 25 18:34:52 <Diablo-D3>	;;bids 0
Jan 25 18:34:54 <gribble>	There are currently 35308190 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 2549019.46181 USD in total.
Jan 25 18:35:05 *	EskimoBob_not_so yawns
Jan 25 18:35:06 <Diablo-D3>	;;asks 0
Jan 25 18:35:07 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 0.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 25 18:35:13 <Diablo-D3>	er
Jan 25 18:35:16 <Diablo-D3>	;;asks 9999999999999
Jan 25 18:35:17 <gribble>	There are currently 93675.646 bitcoins offered at or under 1e+13 USD, worth 2.8030813218e+12 USD in total.
Jan 25 18:35:26 <Diablo-D3>	I broke it
Jan 25 18:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	pretty meaningless stat.
Jan 25 18:35:46 <Bugpowder>	when is opex gonna happen?
Jan 25 18:35:46 *	EskimoBob_not_so is now known as EskimoBob_afkz
Jan 25 18:36:18 <EskimoBob_afkz>	opex?
Jan 25 18:36:31 <Diablo-D3>	apex?
Jan 25 18:37:05 <Bugpowder>	opex
Jan 25 18:37:40 <EskimoBob_afkz>	and opex is what?
Jan 25 18:39:50 <mircea_popescu>	bout half hour
Jan 25 18:40:27 <EskimoBob_afkz>	has anyone seen "The Following" (some TV crap)
Jan 25 18:40:33 <EskimoBob_afkz>	any good?
Jan 25 18:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10088 @ 0.0006875 = 6.9355 BTC [+]
Jan 25 18:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2762 @ 0.00068768 = 1.8994 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 18:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2383 @ 0.00068768 = 1.6387 BTC [+]
Jan 25 18:45:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3601 @ 0.000688 = 2.4775 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:03:36 <jurov>	so, what is teh mpbor?
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Jan 25 19:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	announcement momentarily
Jan 25 19:16:41 <jurov>	last minute tips?
Jan 25 19:16:50 <jurov>	119%?
Jan 25 19:17:40 <MadSweeney>	is there an advantage of buying puts or calls now rather than later?
Jan 25 19:17:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.34 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:18:16 <jurov>	none other than price
Jan 25 19:18:49 <jurov>	so, you had these puts on coinbr? sadly, they expired worthless
Jan 25 19:19:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:19:27 <MadSweeney>	breaks of the game
Jan 25 19:21:27 <jurov>	you could have bought next month ones (if they were available)
Jan 25 19:22:33 <jurov>	i got some C200Ns... were more expensive and need btcusd to go 25 but i a month, it may happen
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Jan 25 19:23:23 <MadSweeney>	I bought the puts mid last month
Jan 25 19:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-january-2013-statement/
Jan 25 19:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	provisional report.
Jan 25 19:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	from now on i'm going to publish early sat, corrections etc if need be, make payments next day.
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Jan 25 19:26:21 <jurov>	so , provisional mpbor 9.99% ftw
Jan 25 19:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	a that ain't changing
Jan 25 19:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	in fact im pretty sure everyhing's right as it is.
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Jan 25 19:31:22 <Namworld>	4500 BTC for you this month
Jan 25 19:31:33 <Namworld>	Congratulations
Jan 25 19:31:36 <Bugpowder>	i missed it
Jan 25 19:31:44 <Namworld>	Nice dividend
Jan 25 19:31:52 <Bugpowder>	financials posted?
Jan 25 19:32:03 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 25 19:32:09 <Namworld>	[19:25] <mircea_popescu> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-january-2013-statement/
Jan 25 19:32:16 <Namworld>	one minute before you joined
Jan 25 19:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld depends how you count it.
Jan 25 19:33:06 <Bugpowder>	wow
Jan 25 19:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	im getting like 4k in interest and like 4k in dividends.
Jan 25 19:33:11 <Bugpowder>	the bot made 10k
Jan 25 19:33:15 <mircea_popescu>	yeh.
Jan 25 19:33:21 <Bugpowder>	yup
Jan 25 19:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	its really fascinating : s.mpoe and s.dice were priced equal by the mkt this month
Jan 25 19:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	and unexpectedly they're making about the same.
Jan 25 19:34:55 <mircea_popescu>	(the 6k that doesn't go to shareholders in mpoe's case as cash is in fact going to them as security : unlike s.dice, s.mpoe can't make a loss)
Jan 25 19:37:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00065865 = 5.7961 BTC [-]
Jan 25 19:39:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0006552 = 6.421 BTC [-]
Jan 25 19:39:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00065274 = 0.1305 BTC [-]
Jan 25 19:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28617 @ 0.00065865 = 18.8486 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1601 @ 0.00065965 = 1.0561 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00066435 = 14.815 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17233 @ 0.00067412 = 11.6171 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7652 @ 0.00067851 = 5.192 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90543 @ 0.00068325 = 61.8635 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2301 @ 0.000688 = 1.5831 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:40:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00068847 = 2.9604 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:40:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13453 @ 0.00069125 = 9.2994 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 19:45:08 <Bugpowder_>	http://imgur.com/pIGyAu3
Jan 25 19:45:10 <Bugpowder_>	update
Jan 25 19:45:40 <Bugpowder_>	not a bad month
Jan 25 19:45:47 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 25 19:45:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.15003, Best ask: 17.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 17.15003, 24 hour volume: 79377.81011270, 24 hour low: 15.38613, 24 hour high: 17.79700, 24 hour vwap: 16.67744
Jan 25 19:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	still a ponzi
Jan 25 19:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	what i don't understand is : were you underwater till dec ?
Jan 25 19:46:52 <Bugpowder_>	glbse
Jan 25 19:46:54 <Bugpowder_>	yes
Jan 25 19:47:04 <mircea_popescu>	heh o i c.
Jan 25 19:47:04 <Bugpowder_>	and f.giga exit
Jan 25 19:47:19 <mircea_popescu>	well props for sticking to it.
Jan 25 19:47:33 <mircea_popescu>	is the rougher line left an indication of less trading activity ?
Jan 25 19:47:42 <Bugpowder_>	no, depression
Jan 25 19:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 25 19:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	you mean, psychological ?
Jan 25 19:48:07 <Bugpowder_>	why update unless its up???
Jan 25 19:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Jan 25 19:48:20 <mircea_popescu>	trader needs nerves of steel you know
Jan 25 19:49:08 <mircea_popescu>	kinda love the dollar divergence tbh.
Jan 25 19:49:17 <Bugpowder_>	a lot easier making money without HFT and hegies trying to rape you
Jan 25 19:49:41 <Bugpowder_>	if EskimoBob is my trading competition, I'm feeling good
Jan 25 19:49:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00067994 = 4.2836 BTC [-]
Jan 25 19:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think he trades.
Jan 25 19:52:14 <Bugpowder_>	ok substitue with Joe Bitcoin
Jan 25 19:52:51 <kakobrekla>	hey my name is Joe Bitcoin!
Jan 25 19:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9522 @ 0.00069125 = 6.5821 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00069228 = 1.6961 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8793 @ 0.0006925 = 6.0892 BTC [+]
Jan 25 19:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	i am actually already preparing for that sweet moment when joe wallstreet discovers btc for reals
Jan 25 19:55:48 <mircea_popescu>	and then discovers that a) mpex already owns it and b) it doesn't really allow hft
Jan 25 19:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	the qty of butthurt shall put two year's worth of btctalk.org to shame
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Jan 25 19:56:26 <jurov>	lol
Jan 25 19:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	onoes! but how can this be! but why! o noes! unfair!
Jan 25 19:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	i'll bet you dollars to rials that 99.x% of all the currently active smartasses can't actually trade with their own head.
Jan 25 19:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	sure, as long as they're using the computer and _EVERYONE ELSE ALSO IS_ it "works".
Jan 25 19:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	but god it will be a riot when it's back to pen and paper.
Jan 25 19:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	and there's no washington to go whine to
Jan 25 19:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	ahhh
Jan 25 19:59:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.0067 = 0.0737 BTC [+]
Jan 25 20:00:45 <jurov>	twas very nice start for MPBPT :)
Jan 25 20:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	cool :D
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Jan 25 20:05:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 20:22:58 <jurov>	lol actually mpex *can* be traded with computer. they just have to rethink the strategies
Jan 25 20:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
Jan 25 20:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	it will be a truely pitched battle. technical, prolly legal too.
Jan 25 20:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	we see who emerges and in what shape.
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Jan 25 20:27:47 <jurov>	perhaps you'll have to move to some jurisdiction without that fiduciary responsibility hassle
Jan 25 20:28:27 <jurov>	build some space station, maybe?
Jan 25 20:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	i'll be fine right here.
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Jan 25 20:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	hm is ass bot dead ?
Jan 25 20:29:29 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 25 20:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061382 / 0.00065565 / 0.0007 (1481411 shares, 971.29 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065129 / 0.0007 (23480449 shares, 15,292.65 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065074 / 0.0007 (52359799 shares, 34,073.00 BTC)
Jan 25 20:29:39 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ^ it's not reporting trades tho
Jan 25 20:31:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00661654 = 5.9549 BTC [+]
Jan 25 20:31:30 <jurov>	!cookie
Jan 25 20:32:12 <jurov>	!amuse me
Jan 25 20:32:26 <mircea_popescu>	!sex on the bitch
Jan 25 20:32:49 <jurov>	!ticker cookie
Jan 25 20:32:49 <assbot>	Have you got any tobacco?
Jan 25 20:33:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5 @ 0.0007 = 0.0035 BTC [+]
Jan 25 20:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.0007 = 16.38 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 20:39:45 <Bugpowder_>	yup
Jan 25 20:39:50 <Bugpowder_>	I knew it
Jan 25 20:40:06 <Bugpowder_>	that's why I exercised early and bot 500k of S.MPOE
Jan 25 20:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00069235 = 9.6929 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 20:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00068719 = 3.2642 BTC [-]
Jan 25 20:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12502 @ 0.0007 = 8.7514 BTC [+]
Jan 25 20:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.0007 = 12.11 BTC [+]
Jan 25 20:49:55 <thestringpuller>	\\
Jan 25 20:49:58 <thestringpuller>	oops
Jan 25 20:50:50 <thestringpuller>	ls
Jan 25 20:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.0007 = 3.36 BTC [+]
Jan 25 20:57:53 <Bugpowder_>	The next great 10% trade for me is coming soon
Jan 25 20:58:02 <Bugpowder_>	9 million shares left
Jan 25 20:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	well ok. im done for the day
Jan 25 20:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	see you all tomorro
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Jan 25 21:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.0006933 = 9.0822 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 21:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2472 @ 0.00067792 = 1.6758 BTC [-]
Jan 25 21:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3678 @ 0.00067463 = 2.4813 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 21:28:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0065063 = 1.9519 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 21:31:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7938 @ 0.00067463 = 5.3552 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 21:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.608 BTC [-]
Jan 25 21:42:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.608 BTC [-]
Jan 25 21:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.609 BTC [+]
Jan 25 21:43:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.61 = 8.54 BTC [+]
Jan 25 21:44:48 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Jan 25 21:44:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.98098, Best ask: 17.05909, Bid-ask spread: 0.07811, Last trade: 16.98097, 24 hour volume: 60194.73602059, 24 hour low: 16.16610, 24 hour high: 17.79700, 24 hour vwap: 16.98795
Jan 25 21:45:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00067463 = 10.3556 BTC [-]
Jan 25 21:46:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 300 @ 0.0010499 = 0.315 BTC [-]
Jan 25 21:47:08 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Jan 25 21:47:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.95736, Best ask: 17.06009, Bid-ask spread: 0.10273, Last trade: 16.95736, 24 hour volume: 59936.98826786, 24 hour low: 16.16610, 24 hour high: 17.79700, 24 hour vwap: 16.99035
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Jan 25 21:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00067463 = 1.5516 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 22:04:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00067463 = 15.584 BTC [-]
Jan 25 22:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15234 @ 0.00067463 = 10.2773 BTC [-]
Jan 25 22:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1166 @ 0.00067238 = 0.784 BTC [-]
Jan 25 22:15:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.0006757 = 15.4735 BTC [+]
Jan 25 22:15:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00068621 = 0.0686 BTC [+]
Jan 25 22:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00633431 = 7.6012 BTC [-]
Jan 25 22:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 225 @ 0.00631463 = 1.4208 BTC [-]
Jan 25 22:16:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00630392 = 7.5647 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 22:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00069252 = 11.8421 BTC [+]
Jan 25 22:28:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.55000001 = 11 BTC [-]
Jan 25 22:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1698 @ 0.00623493 = 10.5869 BTC [-]
Jan 25 22:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.55000001 = 13.2 BTC [-]
Jan 25 22:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00069252 = 5.09 BTC [+]
Jan 25 22:37:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2401 @ 0.00069318 = 1.6643 BTC [+]
Jan 25 22:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1345 @ 0.00623493 = 8.386 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 22:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30950 @ 0.00069252 = 21.4335 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 22:53:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1252 @ 0.00623493 = 7.8061 BTC [-]
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Jan 25 23:05:56 <smickles>	can anyone tell me what the 24hprc was at mpex's end of month?
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Jan 25 23:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00067442 = 10.15 BTC [-]
Jan 25 23:24:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6419 @ 0.00067442 = 4.3291 BTC [-]
Jan 25 23:32:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21481 @ 0.00067333 = 14.4638 BTC [-]
Jan 25 23:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19 @ 0.00067661 = 0.0129 BTC [+]
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Jan 25 23:47:37 <Chilca>	;;ticker
Jan 25 23:47:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.95002, Best ask: 17.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 16.95002, 24 hour volume: 56493.14595272, 24 hour low: 16.16610, 24 hour high: 17.79700, 24 hour vwap: 17.03928
Jan 25 23:47:44 <Chilca>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 25 23:47:45 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00611509 / 0.00639901 / 0.00699 (53507 shares, 342.39 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00453528 / 0.00699 (972731 shares, 4,411.61 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00417873 / 0.00699 (10268223 shares, 42,908.17 BTC)
Jan 25 23:47:55 <Chilca>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 25 23:47:56 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061382 / 0.00066226 / 0.0007 (1722815 shares, 1,140.96 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065157 / 0.0007 (23638657 shares, 15,402.37 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065099 / 0.0007 (52591287 shares, 34,236.79 BTC)
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Jan 26 00:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00067393 = 12.0633 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 00:09:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1031 @ 0.00067393 = 0.6948 BTC [-]
Jan 26 00:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00067315 = 5.7891 BTC [-]
Jan 26 00:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31969 @ 0.00067238 = 21.4953 BTC [-]
Jan 26 00:09:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00067625 = 5.6805 BTC [+]
Jan 26 00:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00068242 = 13.7166 BTC [+]
Jan 26 00:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8794 @ 0.00068536 = 6.0271 BTC [+]
Jan 26 00:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2166 @ 0.00068597 = 1.4858 BTC [+]
Jan 26 00:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14157 @ 0.00069318 = 9.8133 BTC [+]
Jan 26 00:10:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00069425 = 1.2497 BTC [+]
Jan 26 00:10:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4583 @ 0.00069569 = 3.1883 BTC [+]
Jan 26 00:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7382 @ 0.00067238 = 4.9635 BTC [-]
Jan 26 00:38:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8975 @ 0.00069353 = 6.2244 BTC [+]
Jan 26 00:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14725 @ 0.00069029 = 10.1645 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 00:48:29 <Bugpowder_>	matlab implementation of BugBot 0.1 is working!
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Jan 26 01:07:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.0064787 = 15.8728 BTC [+]
Jan 26 01:07:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3050 @ 0.00652691 = 19.9071 BTC [+]
Jan 26 01:07:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00652886 = 2.938 BTC [+]
Jan 26 01:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00657713 = 0.9866 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 01:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3542 @ 0.0006911 = 2.4479 BTC [+]
Jan 26 01:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4875 @ 0.00069029 = 3.3652 BTC [-]
Jan 26 01:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1583 @ 0.00068704 = 1.0876 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 01:44:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11267 @ 0.00069569 = 7.8383 BTC [+]
Jan 26 01:44:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4833 @ 0.00069732 = 3.3701 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 01:48:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00647678 = 6.1529 BTC [-]
Jan 26 01:49:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 190 @ 0.00655226 = 1.2449 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 01:52:04 <Bowjob>	hello?
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Jan 26 02:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00069467 = 9.2044 BTC [-]
Jan 26 02:01:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00068704 = 7.2826 BTC [-]
Jan 26 02:07:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00068704 = 4.6032 BTC [-]
Jan 26 02:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3417 @ 0.00068704 = 2.3476 BTC [-]
Jan 26 02:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2183 @ 0.00068013 = 1.4847 BTC [-]
Jan 26 02:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00069731 = 10.7037 BTC [+]
Jan 26 02:15:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00069731 = 3.2425 BTC [+]
Jan 26 02:15:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10708 @ 0.00069732 = 7.4669 BTC [+]
Jan 26 02:16:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20117 @ 0.00068013 = 13.6822 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 02:22:07 <thestringpuller>	;;seen Namworld
Jan 26 02:22:07 <gribble>	Namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 49 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <Namworld> one minute before you joined
Jan 26 02:22:25 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell Namworld send me a pm when you get back about the lowgrade vps'
Jan 26 02:22:26 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 26 02:22:32 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 26 02:22:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 16.73960, Best ask: 16.78470, Bid-ask spread: 0.04510, Last trade: 16.73960, 24 hour volume: 52677.30982557, 24 hour low: 16.31550, 24 hour high: 17.79700, 24 hour vwap: 17.11123
Jan 26 02:22:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2930 @ 0.00655226 = 19.1981 BTC [+]
Jan 26 02:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 70 @ 0.00657713 = 0.4604 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 02:28:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.59 = 4.72 BTC [+]
Jan 26 02:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9676 @ 0.00069004 = 6.6768 BTC [+]
Jan 26 02:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18715 @ 0.00069004 = 12.9141 BTC [+]
Jan 26 02:52:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6585 @ 0.00068433 = 4.5063 BTC [-]
Jan 26 02:57:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00069068 = 11.3962 BTC [+]
Jan 26 02:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00069402 = 9.5081 BTC [+]
Jan 26 03:01:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00069402 = 1.4921 BTC [+]
Jan 26 03:02:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00069402 = 3.5742 BTC [+]
Jan 26 03:02:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00069409 = 1.9435 BTC [+]
Jan 26 03:11:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24281 @ 0.00068433 = 16.6162 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 03:21:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3519 @ 0.00068963 = 2.4268 BTC [+]
Jan 26 03:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15779 @ 0.00069409 = 10.952 BTC [+]
Jan 26 03:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00068433 = 3.6954 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 03:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00068433 = 13.2418 BTC [-]
Jan 26 03:33:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [+]
Jan 26 03:38:30 <EskimoBob_afkz>	damn, 15 eur was so close. Almost there
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Jan 26 03:52:03 <usagi>	hi
Jan 26 03:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00068952 = 4.7922 BTC [+]
Jan 26 03:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8468 @ 0.00069197 = 5.8596 BTC [+]
Jan 26 03:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71 @ 0.00069409 = 0.0493 BTC [+]
Jan 26 03:54:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3561 @ 0.00069732 = 2.4832 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00643878 = 13.8434 BTC [-]
Jan 26 04:12:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00069642 = 3.6562 BTC [-]
Jan 26 04:13:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18560 @ 0.00069642 = 12.9256 BTC [-]
Jan 26 04:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00654062 = 3.9244 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:15:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1580 @ 0.00657713 = 10.3919 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 04:20:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00068898 = 13.2284 BTC [-]
Jan 26 04:20:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.59 = 1.18 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.6099999 = 24.4 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 04:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.62 = 1.86 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.625 = 6.25 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:29:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 670 @ 0.00664351 = 4.4512 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:30:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.635 = 6.35 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:31:37 <EskimoBob_afkz>	question about market cap https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138769.msg1480643#msg1480643
Jan 26 04:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.64 = 12.8 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 04:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00069636 = 5.9539 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:42:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00069631 = 5.0831 BTC [-]
Jan 26 04:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000697 = 6.97 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:45:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 673 @ 0.00069732 = 0.4693 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [+]
Jan 26 04:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	MPEx ‏@MPEx1
Jan 26 04:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	S.MPOE paid a total dividend of 2`531.16646003 BTC to 500`000`000 outstanding shares. #dividend #bitcoin #btc #stocks
Jan 26 04:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	assbot doesn't report it for some reason
Jan 26 04:48:48 <FabianB>	first div announcement with its new api?
Jan 26 04:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Jan 26 04:49:37 <mircea_popescu>	interests payments going out within the hour.
Jan 26 04:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2333 @ 0.00659999 = 15.3978 BTC [-]
Jan 26 04:56:35 <jurov>	oh lol so i actually paid first :DDDD
Jan 26 04:59:10 <FabianB>	heh, margin for me again
Jan 26 04:59:37 <jurov>	you're on bitfunder?
Jan 26 04:59:46 <FabianB>	yes
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Jan 26 05:00:01 <jurov>	congrats :D
Jan 26 05:00:01 <FabianB>	had 200 O
Jan 26 05:00:49 <jurov>	plan to reinvest?
Jan 26 05:01:19 <FabianB>	jurov: btw. y do i still have 200?
Jan 26 05:01:46 <jurov>	i can issue 100k shares, no prob
Jan 26 05:02:05 <jurov>	oh you mean -O. no that was liquidated
Jan 26 05:02:20 <jurov>	to reinvest, buy MPBPT-E
Jan 26 05:02:48 <jurov>	or, there will me fresh March offering  of -O later
Jan 26 05:02:52 <FabianB>	i know, just wondering why O is still in my assets in bitfunder
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Jan 26 05:03:32 <jurov>	ah so. Ukto said he said he disabled it completely, but he did not reset it yet
Jan 26 05:03:57 <FabianB>	will think about reinvesting, dunno where yet though
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Jan 26 05:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 980 @ 0.00659999 = 6.468 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 05:08:48 <jurov>	mpex dividend distributed to coinbr users, too
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Jan 26 05:20:52 <Schadenfreude>	Yup, nice 7.5 eurocents dividend, hrhrhr
Jan 26 05:21:43 <usagi>	Hello DT
Jan 26 05:23:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1453 @ 0.00659999 = 9.5898 BTC [-]
Jan 26 05:32:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00069631 = 4.1779 BTC [-]
Jan 26 05:33:30 <mircea_popescu>	okay, divs paid, bondholders paid, we're all clear.
Jan 26 05:33:44 <jurov>	deposits, maybe?
Jan 26 05:33:58 <jurov>	oh i got it already
Jan 26 05:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3649 @ 0.00068898 = 2.5141 BTC [-]
Jan 26 05:37:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3469 @ 0.0006885 = 2.3884 BTC [-]
Jan 26 05:37:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00068796 = 1.7543 BTC [-]
Jan 26 05:37:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3232 @ 0.00068433 = 2.2118 BTC [-]
Jan 26 05:45:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00069574 = 0.0696 BTC [+]
Jan 26 05:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00069644 = 5.2233 BTC [+]
Jan 26 05:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Jan 26 05:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138866.msg1480248#msg1480248 loller
Jan 26 05:55:22 <mircea_popescu>	jurov "Noticed a few trades of CoinBr.MPBPT-O at 0.12" heh.
Jan 26 06:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00068634 = 6.6575 BTC [-]
Jan 26 06:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00068634 = 2.0247 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 06:14:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00068634 = 1.407 BTC [-]
Jan 26 06:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5543 @ 0.00068433 = 3.7932 BTC [-]
Jan 26 06:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7657 @ 0.00068403 = 5.2376 BTC [-]
Jan 26 06:23:55 <EskimoBob_afkz>	Lets all be zillionaires!
Jan 26 06:31:30 *	EskimoBob_afkz is now known as EskimoBob
Jan 26 06:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4890 @ 0.0065857 = 32.2041 BTC [-]
Jan 26 06:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00069003 = 8.3839 BTC [+]
Jan 26 06:39:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21950 @ 0.00068943 = 15.133 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 06:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00659999 = 8.58 BTC [+]
Jan 26 06:43:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00069003 = 8.8669 BTC [+]
Jan 26 06:43:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00069004 = 6.7624 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 06:46:35 <PsychoticBoy>	I already am a zillionaire
Jan 26 06:46:40 <PsychoticBoy>	gna gna
Jan 26 06:47:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [+]
Jan 26 06:49:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7475 @ 0.00069004 = 5.158 BTC [+]
Jan 26 06:50:39 <leotreasure>	satoshi dice down?
Jan 26 06:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00069004 = 14.3528 BTC [+]
Jan 26 06:58:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:00:28 <Schadenfreude>	seems down to me too
Jan 26 07:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 748 @ 0.0065857 = 4.9261 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 252 @ 0.0064388 = 1.6226 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	;; ANSWER SECTION:
Jan 26 07:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	satoshidice.com.	293	IN	A	54.247.163.243
Jan 26 07:03:19 <gribble>	Error: "ANSWER" is not a valid command.
Jan 26 07:03:22 <mircea_popescu>	is that their ip ?
Jan 26 07:04:51 <Schadenfreude>	works now
Jan 26 07:04:57 <mircea_popescu>	wait is the forum down ?
Jan 26 07:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00069004 = 13.5593 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00068943 = 3.8608 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00068943 = 8.8247 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15827 @ 0.00068798 = 10.8887 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:09:04 <Schadenfreude>	which forum?
Jan 26 07:10:03 <mircea_popescu>	btctalk
Jan 26 07:10:06 <mircea_popescu>	but back nao
Jan 26 07:11:19 <leotreasure>	sd still down for me :(
Jan 26 07:11:43 <leotreasure>	are they being ddosed?
Jan 26 07:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Jan 26 07:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	anyone know an addy of theirs?
Jan 26 07:11:56 <leotreasure>	that sucks
Jan 26 07:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	ima send a little see if it answers.
Jan 26 07:12:18 <leotreasure>	1diceDCd27Cc22HV3qPNZKwGnZ8QwhLTc
Jan 26 07:12:20 <leotreasure>	1%
Jan 26 07:12:23 <leotreasure>	91%
Jan 26 07:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	i won lol
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Jan 26 07:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	1st time i won on sdice
Jan 26 07:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	out .0105, in .0102
Jan 26 07:13:35 <leotreasure>	:) lots of betting action still on the blockchain
Jan 26 07:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	so overall -.003 -.-
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Jan 26 07:23:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1033 @ 0.01 = 10.33 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:37:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8573 @ 0.00068798 = 5.8981 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:37:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 193 @ 0.00068403 = 0.132 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21234 @ 0.00068373 = 14.5183 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:40:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3766 @ 0.00068373 = 2.5749 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1984 @ 0.00068084 = 1.3508 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:44:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3610 @ 0.00659999 = 23.826 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1470 @ 0.00661549 = 9.7248 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0066442 = 33.221 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1074 @ 0.00664421 = 7.1359 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00671202 = 3.356 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1370 @ 0.00673092 = 9.2214 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00675475 = 4.7283 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2709 @ 0.00675754 = 18.3062 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0067687 = 2.0306 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00682498 = 8.19 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00698 = 6.98 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2411 @ 0.00699711 = 16.87 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10900 @ 0.0069999 = 76.2989 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0070999 = 70.999 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0072999 = 72.999 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0073899 = 73.899 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.00739 = 369.5 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00739 = 22.17 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00749 = 74.9 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1324 @ 0.0075 = 9.93 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:44:25 <kakobrekla>	u go girl
Jan 26 07:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Jan 26 07:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	whpa
Jan 26 07:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	whoa 75 ?
Jan 26 07:45:11 <kakobrekla>	looks like i got sold
Jan 26 07:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 26 07:45:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00623493 / 0.00701656 / 0.0075 (175719 shares, 1,232.94 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00489105 / 0.0075 (1102184 shares, 5,390.84 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00422307 / 0.0075 (10417761 shares, 43,994.98 BTC)
Jan 26 07:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol inb4 bugpowder explodes
Jan 26 07:46:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00702613 = 8.4314 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:46:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00068929 = 10.3394 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:46:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7675 @ 0.00069004 = 5.2961 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 458 @ 0.00069573 = 0.3186 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6058 @ 0.00702613 = 42.5643 BTC [-]
Jan 26 07:53:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.0067 = 1.675 BTC [+]
Jan 26 07:59:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00068084 = 0.8851 BTC [-]
Jan 26 08:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00068084 = 6.7403 BTC [-]
Jan 26 08:05:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0068 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00068437 = 6.0909 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 08:10:33 <Bugpowder>	sup with satoshi dice?
Jan 26 08:10:58 <Bugpowder>	site seems down / slow
Jan 26 08:13:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6382 @ 0.00068084 = 4.3451 BTC [-]
Jan 26 08:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16319 @ 0.00068057 = 11.1062 BTC [-]
Jan 26 08:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1719 @ 0.00705615 = 12.1295 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	was unreachable earlier too
Jan 26 08:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	maybe some ddos
Jan 26 08:16:57 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 26 08:17:11 <Bugpowder>	was considering a panic sell
Jan 26 08:17:18 <Bugpowder>	then someone bought all my shares
Jan 26 08:17:30 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 26 08:17:38 <Bugpowder>	I guess I should be happy
Jan 26 08:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 26 08:17:49 <Bugpowder>	Time to get some shares back
Jan 26 08:17:53 <Bugpowder>	mebby
Jan 26 08:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	put a bid in at 18
Jan 26 08:20:04 <Bugpowder>	oh ive got one down there for sure
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Jan 26 08:30:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00068166 = 10.6339 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:30:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131 @ 0.00068057 = 0.0892 BTC [-]
Jan 26 08:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3362 @ 0.00068013 = 2.2866 BTC [-]
Jan 26 08:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://antimisandry.com/general-blog-chat/proof-men-worthless-scumbags-5178.html
Jan 26 08:34:04 <mircea_popescu>	sorta lulzy
Jan 26 08:35:08 <Bugpowder>	This is great
Jan 26 08:35:12 <Bugpowder>	last night I got bored
Jan 26 08:35:20 <Bugpowder>	and whipped up a bot in matlab
Jan 26 08:35:24 <Bugpowder>	just manual now
Jan 26 08:35:36 <Bugpowder>	but at least I can cancel all orders in a single keystroke
Jan 26 08:35:46 <Bugpowder>	and do market analysis and place a bunch as well
Jan 26 08:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	wait you have a matlab mpex bot ?!
Jan 26 08:35:58 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 26 08:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	0.0
Jan 26 08:36:04 <Bugpowder>	took about 3 hours
Jan 26 08:36:05 <mircea_popescu>	os it ?
Jan 26 08:36:06 <Bugpowder>	0.1
Jan 26 08:36:22 <Bugpowder>	I need to integrated it with the finance package
Jan 26 08:36:44 <Bugpowder>	but its a start
Jan 26 08:37:08 <Bugpowder>	It's like taking way to long to track all my positions by hand
Jan 26 08:37:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2133 @ 0.00068437 = 1.4598 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:37:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15467 @ 0.00068472 = 10.5906 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:38:12 <mircea_popescu>	you should totally put it on github
Jan 26 08:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	i'd like to link to that.
Jan 26 08:38:38 <Bugpowder>	no fucking way
Jan 26 08:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	aww!
Jan 26 08:38:51 <mircea_popescu>	but information wants to be free!
Jan 26 08:39:51 <Bugpowder>	TELL THAT TO Sergey Aleynikov
Jan 26 08:40:22 <Bugpowder>	honestly though
Jan 26 08:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	did he serve in the end ?
Jan 26 08:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	i haven't been following
Jan 26 08:40:37 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin is full of 'programmers'
Jan 26 08:40:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00068013 = 6.9373 BTC [-]
Jan 26 08:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 26 08:40:51 <Bugpowder>	if they cant write a trading script on their own...
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Jan 26 08:41:04 <Bugpowder>	maybe they are bad at the only thing they are good at
Jan 26 08:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	well let's see... there's fewer spots more prestigious than the mpex faq, they're not in there for having written a mathlab script
Jan 26 08:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	so i guess either too stupid to code or too stupid to know what to pick to code.
Jan 26 08:41:41 <Bugpowder>	What's the total user base of MPEX now?
Jan 26 08:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	some hundreds
Jan 26 08:41:54 <kakobrekla>	666
Jan 26 08:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol something like that
Jan 26 08:42:07 <Bugpowder>	If the bot is good enough
Jan 26 08:42:13 <Bugpowder>	it might make sense to sell it
Jan 26 08:42:27 <Bugpowder>	or if the market competition heats up
Jan 26 08:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	no cause information wants to be free and 30 btc is too much
Jan 26 08:42:36 <Bugpowder>	ha
Jan 26 08:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	and also trilema should be free.
Jan 26 08:42:50 <Bugpowder>	I was gonna pay smickles 30 btc to code the bot
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Jan 26 08:42:57 <Bugpowder>	but then I wrote most of it last night
Jan 26 08:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.001139 = 5.695 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:43:07 <Bugpowder>	and just paid him for time spent
Jan 26 08:43:10 <mircea_popescu>	"i was gonna pay someone 500 dollah to write a script
Jan 26 08:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	but then i started speccing it and now it's done"
Jan 26 08:43:22 <Bugpowder>	yea
Jan 26 08:43:30 <Bugpowder>	I didn't realize how easy it would be
Jan 26 08:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	you brain surgeon you.
Jan 26 08:43:51 <Bugpowder>	JSON is my new friend
Jan 26 08:43:57 <kakobrekla>	still do lobotomy?
Jan 26 08:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	json is evil in the sense lube is evil.
Jan 26 08:44:08 <Bugpowder>	and regexp is my wary acquaintance.
Jan 26 08:46:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00749898 = 7.499 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:46:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.007499 = 7.499 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:46:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.0075 = 24.75 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:47:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00721288 = 7.2129 BTC [-]
Jan 26 08:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2409 @ 0.00749999 = 18.0675 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:51:29 <Bugpowder>	oh man does the ponzi continue
Jan 26 08:51:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 468 @ 0.00068472 = 0.3204 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:51:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00069043 = 8.9756 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:51:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3765 @ 0.00069573 = 2.6194 BTC [+]
Jan 26 08:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	haha did you make an update ?
Jan 26 08:54:11 <Bugpowder>	up 132% this month
Jan 26 08:54:20 <Bugpowder>	up exactly 200% since Dec 1
Jan 26 08:54:52 <Bugpowder>	so funny how real businesses create value much faster than a ponzi
Jan 26 08:55:23 <Bugpowder>	That is in dollar terms
Jan 26 08:56:16 <Bugpowder>	only +77% in BTC terms this month
Jan 26 08:57:09 <kakobrekla>	yeah deflation makes it impossible to go broke
Jan 26 08:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i been sayin that for a while.
Jan 26 08:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	hard to swallow for many.
Jan 26 08:58:20 <kakobrekla>	many dont swallow.
Jan 26 08:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Jan 26 08:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so.
Jan 26 08:58:34 <mircea_popescu>	you know i've not met a girl that didn't in what, 20 years by now.
Jan 26 08:59:19 <kakobrekla>	unfortunatley bitcoin community is testosterone powered
Jan 26 08:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	tha'ts a point
Jan 26 09:00:05 <Bugpowder>	it does not appeal to women in general
Jan 26 09:00:06 <Bugpowder>	for some reason
Jan 26 09:00:32 <kakobrekla>	until the partner makes 1000% roi
Jan 26 09:00:37 <kakobrekla>	then is all good!
Jan 26 09:00:58 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Jan 26 09:01:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 26 09:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	experientia docent ?
Jan 26 09:04:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://imgur.com/r/funny/Ziz6qIJ
Jan 26 09:07:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00726698 = 7.267 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00749998 = 7.5 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 738 @ 0.00749999 = 5.535 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0006873 = 4.8111 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00068731 = 1.9245 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00069573 = 1.5654 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:08:55 <pigeons>	this dice price is a little high i think
Jan 26 09:08:58 <pigeons>	mpoe too
Jan 26 09:09:06 <Bugpowder>	you didn't see last night
Jan 26 09:09:11 <Bugpowder>	up another 6k
Jan 26 09:09:21 <pigeons>	ah
Jan 26 09:09:22 <Bugpowder>	over 600k in bets
Jan 26 09:09:26 <Bugpowder>	around 20k in profits
Jan 26 09:09:27 <kakobrekla>	at this rate, bbet will be a good deal soon! lulz
Jan 26 09:09:58 <Bugpowder>	I think S.DICE price will float around 2% dividend EV
Jan 26 09:10:21 <Bugpowder>	its a number people can understand
Jan 26 09:10:42 <pigeons>	what's it at now?
Jan 26 09:10:53 <Bugpowder>	lets see
Jan 26 09:11:02 <Bugpowder>	it think profit is acutally around 17k
Jan 26 09:11:14 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Jan 26 09:11:46 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 600000*.019/100000000/.0075
Jan 26 09:11:46 <gribble>	0.0152
Jan 26 09:11:54 <Bugpowder>	1.52% EV
Jan 26 09:12:02 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 17000/100000000/.0075
Jan 26 09:12:02 <gribble>	0.0226666666667
Jan 26 09:12:11 <Bugpowder>	2.26% current
Jan 26 09:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00068013 = 14.7588 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:13:35 <Bugpowder>	all my shares got bot this morining tho
Jan 26 09:13:45 <Bugpowder>	im locked out!
Jan 26 09:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00068013 = 10.0319 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:17:52 <pigeons>	so its priced reasonably
Jan 26 09:18:22 <Bugpowder>	based on historical price / dividend yield
Jan 26 09:18:24 <Bugpowder>	yes
Jan 26 09:18:43 <Bugpowder>	S.MPOE seems a bit expensive
Jan 26 09:18:47 <pigeons>	i just hate to pay so much for something that cost me half that a few days ago
Jan 26 09:18:53 <Bugpowder>	BUT, much less regulatory risk there
Jan 26 09:18:55 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 26 09:19:10 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE cost .0009 a few days ago for a lucky someone
Jan 26 09:19:31 <pigeons>	yeah :)
Jan 26 09:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00069573 = 4.8701 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:20:38 <Bugpowder>	Hey I wish I had my shares back too
Jan 26 09:21:00 <Bugpowder>	but I'm not upset about getting out at .007-.0075
Jan 26 09:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	as i always say, options mm-ing is the only business in the world where if you don't have customers you're depressed and if you do have them you're worried.
Jan 26 09:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	seems shares work similarly.
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Jan 26 09:23:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15988 @ 0.00068013 = 10.8739 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00068012 = 17.7511 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18872 @ 0.00068001 = 12.8331 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:23:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00067851 = 12.0775 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00067717 = 11.241 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:23:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4640 @ 0.0006766 = 3.1394 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:24:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00749998 = 3.75 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:24:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6853 @ 0.00749999 = 51.3974 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1647 @ 0.0075 = 12.3525 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:25:25 <Bugpowder>	satoshi dice is down again
Jan 26 09:25:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11531 @ 0.0006766 = 7.8019 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.00067567 = 21.6552 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:25:32 <Bugpowder>	hopefully this will cause a panic sell
Jan 26 09:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6419 @ 0.00067517 = 4.3339 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:25:38 <Bugpowder>	into my bid at .0016
Jan 26 09:25:50 <StarenseN>	yup
Jan 26 09:25:56 <StarenseN>	any details about the shutdown?
Jan 26 09:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4500 @ 0.0075 = 33.75 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:26:18 <StarenseN>	i'm surprised that the betting script is down aswell
Jan 26 09:26:20 <Bugpowder>	nope
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Jan 26 09:26:44 <Bugpowder>	it would hilarous if I got out the morning it shut down, at the all time high
Jan 26 09:26:49 <StarenseN>	because the adresses and algorithm linked doesn't need a front-end website
Jan 26 09:27:58 <pigeons>	oh so its down, down, not just the web site
Jan 26 09:27:59 <StarenseN>	it'd be intelligent to separate and 2 differents servers the script and the website
Jan 26 09:28:04 <pigeons>	do they have a freenode channel?
Jan 26 09:28:15 <StarenseN>	on*
Jan 26 09:28:29 <StarenseN>	http://blockchain.info/
Jan 26 09:29:15 <StarenseN>	I think that it refund
Jan 26 09:29:19 <StarenseN>	all the bets
Jan 26 09:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00721288 = 7.2129 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 09:30:34 <StarenseN>	Bugpowder do you hold some assets or only speculating S.DICE shares ?
Jan 26 09:32:51 <mircea_popescu>	<StarenseN> i'm surprised that the betting script is down aswell
Jan 26 09:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	i was betting earlier just fine ?
Jan 26 09:34:05 <mircea_popescu>	i just won again
Jan 26 09:34:10 <mircea_popescu>	betting works fine
Jan 26 09:34:13 <StarenseN>	alright good news
Jan 26 09:34:21 <Bugpowder>	StarenseN  I just hang out here all day and have no assets
Jan 26 09:34:38 <StarenseN>	-_-
Jan 26 09:34:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol glbse!
Jan 26 09:36:09 <StarenseN>	mircea_popescu are you sure, when i look to blockchain, adresses refund immediately
Jan 26 09:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	c9e35452e695c96648a1834844e64d88720724a55aab66b257fccbbfc826e7a6 my bet
Jan 26 09:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	e39cb60a469a05ffa14c84cb48949332592548d7ad9c7cdbabb102f85a4b09b7
Jan 26 09:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	 my winningsd
Jan 26 09:36:38 <mircea_popescu>	am i doing something wrong ?
Jan 26 09:38:27 <StarenseN>	Total Input	149.36336849 BTC
Jan 26 09:38:27 <StarenseN>	Total Output	149.36236849 BTC
Jan 26 09:38:34 <StarenseN>	no winnings or ?
Jan 26 09:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ?
Jan 26 09:38:48 <StarenseN>	your bet : e39cb60a469a05ffa14c84cb48949332592548d7ad9c7cdbabb102f85a4b09b7 on blockchain
Jan 26 09:38:51 <mircea_popescu>	i sent .1 (+0005 fee
Jan 26 09:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	and i received .10660522
Jan 26 09:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.0006883 = 4.6804 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:40:00 <StarenseN>	ok i get it
Jan 26 09:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's right ?
Jan 26 09:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	someone gave the addy earlier, should be kinda high odds to win
Jan 26 09:41:35 <StarenseN>	how high do you think it will rise :)
Jan 26 09:41:36 <StarenseN>	http://www.bitcoingem.com/
Jan 26 09:42:33 <StarenseN>	Kbtcs ? :)
Jan 26 09:42:33 <mircea_popescu>	it won't without celebrity endorsment.
Jan 26 09:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	people just don't know how to do anything
Jan 26 09:42:47 <mircea_popescu>	they really believe their coding is all there is.
Jan 26 09:42:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00749999 = 3.75 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.0075 = 10.125 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:47:07 <Bugpowder>	the bitcoin gem
Jan 26 09:47:12 <Bugpowder>	funny idea
Jan 26 09:47:21 <Bugpowder>	300BTC
Jan 26 09:47:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00067517 = 12.2206 BTC [-]
Jan 26 09:47:49 <StarenseN>	3000BTC*
Jan 26 09:47:52 <StarenseN>	:D
Jan 26 09:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	<1 btc
Jan 26 09:48:52 <Bugpowder>	wow they take a 50% cut
Jan 26 09:49:22 <EskimoBob>	LOL, wtf is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuvMSjL6UcU ?
Jan 26 09:49:26 <Bugpowder>	maybe I should code up the fabulous tulip site
Jan 26 09:49:31 <Bugpowder>	its a clever little tulip
Jan 26 09:49:35 <StarenseN>	haha Bugpowder
Jan 26 09:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Jan 26 09:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	let's get back to 2011
Jan 26 09:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	and be retarded all over again
Jan 26 09:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	"because it works" and "think of the children"
Jan 26 09:51:14 <StarenseN>	nice hat mircea_popescu
Jan 26 09:51:23 <mircea_popescu>	which ?
Jan 26 09:51:25 <StarenseN>	the funniest part is the one with the beacon
Jan 26 09:51:32 <StarenseN>	the youtube vid
Jan 26 09:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, i had a hat ?!
Jan 26 09:51:45 <EskimoBob>	what a retard
Jan 26 09:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	link me lol
Jan 26 09:52:02 <StarenseN>	[15:49] <EskimoBob> LOL, wtf is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuvMSjL6UcU ?
Jan 26 09:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	a hehe. yeah.
Jan 26 09:52:51 <StarenseN>	people had troubles for less than that
Jan 26 09:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	it is a nice hat. best of san jose.
Jan 26 09:53:00 <mircea_popescu>	StarenseN im a tough mofo.
Jan 26 09:53:33 <usagi>	uhh is that really mircea?
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Jan 26 09:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, this is back before "the muslims" were "rioting" because "some film".
Jan 26 09:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	apparently it wasn't exactly the film, now was it, seeing how if anyone ever gave a shit there'd be much better films to be had.
Jan 26 09:54:56 <kakobrekla>	only thing that boggles me is why would you make a open fire inside the house
Jan 26 09:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	for allah.
Jan 26 09:55:10 <kakobrekla>	im sure it stank for a while
Jan 26 09:55:12 <EskimoBob>	I mean, this guy is a total attention whore and a lunatic
Jan 26 09:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	and that other guy
Jan 26 09:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	nah, i just opened the balcony door for an hour
Jan 26 09:55:45 <usagi>	EB is that really mircea?
Jan 26 09:55:55 <usagi>	I thought he was handsomely cleanshaven?>
Jan 26 09:57:15 <EskimoBob>	usagi: yes, this is him.
Jan 26 09:57:40 <usagi>	boggle
Jan 26 09:57:41 <EskimoBob>	he uses some really old pictures on his web site but that suit he has is still the same
Jan 26 09:58:11 <StarenseN>	It's sad that people care about religions
Jan 26 09:58:16 <EskimoBob>	he actually looks like this: http://images.zoso.ro/img/2010/01/mircea_popescu.jpg :)
Jan 26 09:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	people don't give a shit about religions any more than they give a shit about all the rest of the meaningless drivel they use to complain about.
Jan 26 09:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	you think neighbours calling the police actualyl care about the music ?
Jan 26 09:58:57 <usagi>	Wow, those eyes are intense.
Jan 26 09:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	they don't. they just feel lonely and ignored.
Jan 26 09:59:15 <EskimoBob>	StarenseN: i personally do not give a flying fuck about religions but there are people who do and why shit on them?
Jan 26 09:59:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.0006883 = 8.294 BTC [+]
Jan 26 09:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130 @ 0.00068883 = 0.0895 BTC [+]
Jan 26 10:00:04 <EskimoBob>	This muppet popescu thinks he is something special. He is obviously more fucked up than I believed :)
Jan 26 10:00:35 <StarenseN>	You don't know him
Jan 26 10:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	who don't i know ?
Jan 26 10:00:47 <EskimoBob>	StarenseN: and you do?
Jan 26 10:00:55 <StarenseN>	it's easy to bury old footages
Jan 26 10:01:10 <StarenseN>	but it's true that the video is wired and sad
Jan 26 10:02:06 <EskimoBob>	StarenseN: if you have any braincells available to process a independent thought, spend few days here and you understand what a twisted fuck up this guy actually is.
Jan 26 10:02:18 <StarenseN>	:D
Jan 26 10:02:25 <StarenseN>	bitcointalk is sometime enough
Jan 26 10:02:32 <EskimoBob>	StarenseN: :)
Jan 26 10:02:35 <EskimoBob>	indeed
Jan 26 10:03:34 <StarenseN>	but as i can read, he's keen to do his actual business
Jan 26 10:03:50 <StarenseN>	and i'm satisfied
Jan 26 10:03:53 <EskimoBob>	StarenseN: really? read harder
Jan 26 10:04:19 <StarenseN>	but all the ego stuff sometimes are borderline
Jan 26 10:04:52 <StarenseN>	to stay polite
Jan 26 10:05:19 <EskimoBob>	:)
Jan 26 10:05:39 <usagi>	EB there is something you should learn if you want to be better than mircea popescu
Jan 26 10:05:51 <usagi>	Money has a mind of it's own, just let it go where it wants to :) don't hate
Jan 26 10:07:48 <EskimoBob>	usagi: you go and fix your fuckups with nyans and what not. When you are done and have returned my coin, we can start talking nicely again. :)
Jan 26 10:07:57 <usagi>	I did return some of your coins.
Jan 26 10:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00068614 = 8.3709 BTC [-]
Jan 26 10:08:01 <EskimoBob>	to stay polite
Jan 26 10:08:03 <EskimoBob>	btw
Jan 26 10:08:04 <usagi>	Did you see the payment you got?
Jan 26 10:08:30 <usagi>	You should get another one on the weekend. Actually I'm in talks to consolidate the debt so I might be able to pay the whole thing off next week. Dunno.
Jan 26 10:09:12 <EskimoBob>	no, this number was so small, I thought a fly had taken a shit on my screen
Jan 26 10:09:19 <EskimoBob>	:)
Jan 26 10:09:32 <usagi>	Well you didn't invest very much money.
Jan 26 10:09:47 <pigeons>	nice to see you repaying usagi
Jan 26 10:09:52 <pigeons>	good luck
Jan 26 10:10:11 <EskimoBob>	yep, it is nice to see you clean up this stuff
Jan 26 10:10:34 <usagi>	Yeah it's very simple. When I get asset issuers to pay me what they owe me I just pay it out as a dividend :)
Jan 26 10:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139017.0 btw
Jan 26 10:11:07 <EskimoBob>	fuck! I was almost sure I can do the accounting with kmymoney but it has no acc payable etc :(
Jan 26 10:12:06 <EskimoBob>	rrrr... but gnucash is clueless about non ISO currencies
Jan 26 10:13:04 <Bugpowder>	BugBot 0.2 activated
Jan 26 10:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	bugbot ?
Jan 26 10:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	jesus what's with the bot names. ass bot, bug bot, do you people hate your bots ?
Jan 26 10:13:43 <Bugpowder>	I will come up with a betterone
Jan 26 10:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	betteronebot
Jan 26 10:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	sounds legit
Jan 26 10:13:53 <Bugpowder>	SexyBot
Jan 26 10:13:56 <usagi>	Thanks pigeons. It's been a long hard road but I've finally seen the light.
Jan 26 10:14:16 <mircea_popescu>	Boticelli
Jan 26 10:14:20 <pigeons>	EskimoBob: https://github.com/jwiegley/ledger
Jan 26 10:16:16 <StarenseN>	What's the meaning of MPOE-PR ?
Jan 26 10:16:17 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: thanks. But I think I want GUI :)
Jan 26 10:16:42 <pigeons>	yuck ;)
Jan 26 10:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	old options trading page was called Mircea Popescu Options Emporium
Jan 26 10:16:59 <EskimoBob>	StarenseN: no meaning. just fluff and  bull shit
Jan 26 10:17:59 <EskimoBob>	StarenseN: this account belongs to a "PR" person with a colorful background in porn site spamming etc
Jan 26 10:18:36 <EskimoBob>	she is the smartest person on this planet.. hold on.. mircea_popescu is the smartest person on this planet and in Romania too
Jan 26 10:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6670 @ 0.00068883 = 4.5945 BTC [+]
Jan 26 10:19:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46530 @ 0.00068927 = 32.0717 BTC [+]
Jan 26 10:20:19 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: i can not really imagine doing accounting from cli
Jan 26 10:20:36 <EskimoBob>	unless there is some type of cli ui thingy
Jan 26 10:21:15 <pigeons>	smickles: what will you charge to cook i mean do EskimoBob's books?
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Jan 26 10:21:52 <EskimoBob>	let me cook me own books :)
Jan 26 10:22:00 <pigeons>	:)
Jan 26 10:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.645 = 5.16 BTC [-]
Jan 26 10:22:16 <pigeons>	you did kill the litecoin price eventually
Jan 26 10:22:17 <EskimoBob>	I playd with gnucash and learned a lot of new funny stuff about bookkeeping
Jan 26 10:22:28 <EskimoBob>	me?
Jan 26 10:22:37 <EskimoBob>	how did I do that?
Jan 26 10:22:49 <pigeons>	cashing out to buy the kiln
Jan 26 10:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.6699999 = 4.69 BTC [+]
Jan 26 10:23:26 <EskimoBob>	nope, wznt me
Jan 26 10:24:47 <EskimoBob>	i am compiling this ledger thing, I really like to see how it "looks"
Jan 26 10:25:56 <EskimoBob>	and feels
Jan 26 10:26:35 <EskimoBob>	fuck, i think it has no VAT support
Jan 26 10:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.0006878 = 2.9575 BTC [-]
Jan 26 10:36:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00068725 = 9.759 BTC [-]
Jan 26 10:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10470 @ 0.00068927 = 7.2167 BTC [+]
Jan 26 10:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15330 @ 0.00068943 = 10.569 BTC [+]
Jan 26 10:42:08 <smickles>	pigeons: the cost of a bag of coal and one of those stick lighters, plus 2 btc/hr while they burn
Jan 26 10:50:26 <smickles>	ya know, I could probably go double uber and do bo
Jan 26 10:50:40 <smickles>	er, * bookkeeping 'by hand' in sed
Jan 26 10:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 26 10:51:50 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006175 / 0.00067994 / 0.0007 (2582876 shares, 1,756.21 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065297 / 0.0007 (23780105 shares, 15,527.87 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065195 / 0.0007 (53329141 shares, 34,768.04 BTC)
Jan 26 10:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 26 10:51:52 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00623493 / 0.00708425 / 0.0075 (209513 shares, 1,484.24 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00497091 / 0.0075 (1136369 shares, 5,648.80 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00423412 / 0.0075 (10454535 shares, 44,265.77 BTC)
Jan 26 10:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	heh it takes the lead in 1d average too.
Jan 26 10:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6699999 = 2.01 BTC [+]
Jan 26 10:54:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.67 = 4.69 BTC [+]
Jan 26 10:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:05:42 <EskimoBob>	smickles: what program do you use when you do accounting?
Jan 26 11:10:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.67 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:10:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.68 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:10:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.7 = 4.2 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:11:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00068943 = 2.7922 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 26 11:11:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.55000001 / 0.60657376 / 0.70000000 (305 shares, 185.00499530 BTC), 7D: 0.44000000 / 0.56411554 / 0.70000000 (1170 shares, 660.01518496 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.48434718 / 0.70000000 (4998 shares, 2420.76718484 BTC)
Jan 26 11:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 198 @ 0.00721288 = 1.4282 BTC [-]
Jan 26 11:18:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00068725 = 0.8247 BTC [-]
Jan 26 11:18:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00068614 = 2.8132 BTC [-]
Jan 26 11:18:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14436 @ 0.00068166 = 9.8404 BTC [-]
Jan 26 11:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1614 @ 0.00067517 = 1.0897 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 11:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.7 = 4.2 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:29:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00067905 = 0.2037 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:32:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00067905 = 6.3831 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 11:33:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.78 = 7.8 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.79 = 11.85 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.79 = 7.9 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:37:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.79 = 3.16 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 11:39:39 <Bugpowder>	I OWN THE MAGNIFICENT GEM
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Jan 26 11:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.78 = 7.8 BTC [-]
Jan 26 11:41:12 <StarenseN>	Damn Bugpowder :(
Jan 26 11:41:35 <StarenseN>	I'll bring it back to daddy
Jan 26 11:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	 "Ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by lap dancers: economic evidence for human estrus?"
Jan 26 11:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	this is research now.
Jan 26 11:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	interviewing hos on public money!
Jan 26 11:43:06 <Bugpowder>	I think the gem is going over 100 by monday
Jan 26 11:43:08 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 26 11:43:29 <StarenseN>	let's say friday
Jan 26 11:43:36 <Bugpowder>	nope
Jan 26 11:43:40 <Bugpowder>	monday
Jan 26 11:43:44 <Bugpowder>	how long has it been out?
Jan 26 11:43:50 <StarenseN>	couples of hours
Jan 26 11:44:02 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 26 11:44:15 <Bugpowder>	people are going to hit it pretty fast for now
Jan 26 11:44:22 <Bugpowder>	assume twice an hour
Jan 26 11:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	 A mixed-model analysis of 296 work shifts (representing about 5300 lap dances) showed an interaction between cycle phase and hormonal contraception use. Normally cycling participants earned about US$335 per 5-h shift during estrus, US$260 per shift during the luteal phase, and US$185 per shift during menstruation. By contrast, participants using contraceptive pills showed no estrous earnings peak.
Jan 26 11:44:34 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 1.1^(24*2)
Jan 26 11:44:34 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
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Jan 26 11:44:56 <Bugpowder>	1.1^48 = 97 BTC
Jan 26 11:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder it was out yesterday at the very least
Jan 26 11:45:09 <Bugpowder>	but the knowledge of it is growing
Jan 26 11:45:18 <Bugpowder>	100 BTC by tomorrow night
Jan 26 11:45:26 <Bugpowder>	dude
Jan 26 11:45:26 <StarenseN>	seems legit
Jan 26 11:45:32 <Bugpowder>	time for a bitbet?
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Jan 26 11:45:58 <Schadenfreude>	meh, they tried to prove that men can detect on a subconcious level the cycle phase of women
Jan 26 11:46:12 <Schadenfreude>	it's better spent money than welfare
Jan 26 11:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	it is better spent than welfare
Jan 26 11:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	and in general men's ability to detect it is a good indiator of mens ability to get laid.
Jan 26 11:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.79 = 39.5 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 11:48:56 <Schadenfreude>	pretty much every kind of research except for political bs like manipulating data to prove an agenda pays off in the long term, knowledge is useful
Jan 26 11:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-hacks-us-sentencing-commission-distributes-files-7000010369/
Jan 26 11:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude it being useful is not in discussion tho. it being useful enough to justify the costs is.
Jan 26 11:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 31 @ 0.79 = 24.49 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.8 = 8 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9094 @ 0.00067905 = 6.1753 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1606 @ 0.00068943 = 1.1072 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:53:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0242 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:53:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0241 = 2.41 BTC [-]
Jan 26 11:53:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 86 @ 0.0241 = 2.0726 BTC [-]
Jan 26 11:53:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.024 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Jan 26 11:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17985 @ 0.00068943 = 12.3994 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:55:37 <Schadenfreude>	was it tax money or money actually earned by a university with tuition fees etc?
Jan 26 11:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	does it make a difference ?
Jan 26 11:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20450 @ 0.00068943 = 14.0988 BTC [+]
Jan 26 11:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	there's no actual private university in the us. there's just different types of graft financing.
Jan 26 11:58:39 <Schadenfreude>	though really, aslong as upto 80% of people's income are being taxed away under various pretenses, where that money goes to isn't that important
Jan 26 11:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3117 @ 0.00067517 = 2.1045 BTC [-]
Jan 26 11:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19233 @ 0.00067389 = 12.9609 BTC [-]
Jan 26 11:59:29 <Schadenfreude>	it's like somebody complaining that a mugger gambles the money away he robbed instead of buying food for it
Jan 26 11:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	exactly what i said.
Jan 26 12:01:18 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is a phoney!
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Jan 26 12:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	I'm calling it now and you can count on this : When everything Bitcoin related will go big, Mircea, MPEX and Satoshi Dice won't. Stop worrying , it is a non-issue.
Jan 26 12:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	hey, good news.
Jan 26 12:04:39 <kakobrekla>	yeah, didnt mention bb.
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Jan 26 12:05:03 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny tho, "some greedy people and that's it"
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Jan 26 12:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	this socialist delusion is possibly the most amusing thing i've ever seen
Jan 26 12:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	"we the people"
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Jan 26 12:07:37 <Schadenfreude>	you mean the us constitution?
Jan 26 12:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	no, i mean that every single idiot no matter how irrelevant, marginal or outright stupid
Jan 26 12:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	wields with conviction the almighty weapon of universal agreement with himself.
Jan 26 12:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	"everyone i know things i'm right, for any values of everyone = 0, which is how many people i know"
Jan 26 12:11:52 <Schadenfreude>	normal idiots doing this are annoying, politicians voted in by those idiots using the same terminology to push for insane laws, now that's different
Jan 26 12:12:44 <Schadenfreude>	how obama surrounded himself with children announcing his insane ideas or gun control while his own kids are protected by armed guard 24/7
Jan 26 12:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	they're not annoying, it's what they do. a cow chewing cud is not annoying.
Jan 26 12:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	what are annoying are the people who know better but prefer to "be polite"
Jan 26 12:15:12 <Schadenfreude>	what do you expect? '68 came, everybody's the same and has a right not to get their feelings hurt
Jan 26 12:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	hah. fuck that shit.
Jan 26 12:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	i hurt feelings as if they were fish roe at a japanese restaurant
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Jan 26 12:18:22 <Schadenfreude>	btw, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267062/Lego-accused-racism-Turkish-community-say-toy-offensive-based-mosque.html
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Jan 26 12:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	yeah i saw that yest or w/e
Jan 26 12:21:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13664 @ 0.00068943 = 9.4204 BTC [+]
Jan 26 12:21:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12286 @ 0.00069078 = 8.4869 BTC [+]
Jan 26 12:29:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4441 @ 0.00067389 = 2.9927 BTC [-]
Jan 26 12:29:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18594 @ 0.000673 = 12.5138 BTC [-]
Jan 26 12:33:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3826 @ 0.0006864 = 2.6262 BTC [+]
Jan 26 12:33:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3274 @ 0.00069078 = 2.2616 BTC [+]
Jan 26 12:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.000673 = 2.4565 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 12:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6356 @ 0.000673 = 4.2776 BTC [-]
Jan 26 12:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00067292 = 13.2902 BTC [-]
Jan 26 12:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1194 @ 0.00067155 = 0.8018 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 12:45:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00068151 = 9.473 BTC [+]
Jan 26 12:47:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00739837 = 7.0285 BTC [+]
Jan 26 12:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1190 @ 0.0075 = 8.925 BTC [+]
Jan 26 12:48:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00729868 = 0.3649 BTC [-]
Jan 26 12:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6940 @ 0.00069078 = 4.794 BTC [+]
Jan 26 12:51:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2260 @ 0.0006941 = 1.5687 BTC [+]
Jan 26 12:54:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.79 = 2.37 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15003 @ 0.00068455 = 10.2703 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00068151 = 0.3408 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 13:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22534 @ 0.00067155 = 15.1327 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1300 @ 0.001139 = 1.4807 BTC [+]
Jan 26 13:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 26 13:15:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0010499 / 0.00113009 / 0.001139 (7000 shares, 7.91 BTC), 7D: 0.00100006 / 0.00104808 / 0.00129998 (29810 shares, 31.24 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00078548 / 0.0035 (2276672 shares, 1,788.29 BTC)
Jan 26 13:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0006761 = 4.6989 BTC [+]
Jan 26 13:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41 @ 0.00067155 = 0.0275 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:21:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00067117 = 11.6784 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3259 @ 0.00067069 = 2.1858 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:23:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/116/milos-zeman-will-be-the-next-czech-president/
Jan 26 13:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	check out that guy, bet 5 cents on zeman came out like 600%
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Jan 26 13:26:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00067069 = 7.2435 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 13:28:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00067069 = 6.5057 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:38:35 <jurov>	yes, i bet 0.1 :D
Jan 26 13:39:10 <jurov>	visited parents today, watched him being funny together
Jan 26 13:40:43 <jurov>	we'll certainly hear more from him... untill they keep him under drugs :D
Jan 26 13:40:50 <jurov>	*unless
Jan 26 13:54:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0589 BTC [+]
Jan 26 13:55:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol that bad eh ?
Jan 26 13:56:13 <jurov>	yea, watch out
Jan 26 13:56:23 <JWU42>	wow
Jan 26 13:56:26 <JWU42>	a YABMC trade
Jan 26 13:59:02 <markedathome>	[16:53:14] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0242 BTC [+]
Jan 26 13:59:02 <markedathome>	[16:53:37] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0241 = 2.41 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:59:02 <markedathome>	[16:53:39] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 86 @ 0.0241 = 2.0726 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:59:02 <markedathome>	[16:53:51] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.024 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:59:15 <markedathome>	appears to happen a lot :-)
Jan 26 13:59:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 691 @ 0.00067069 = 0.4634 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6183 @ 0.0006705 = 4.1457 BTC [-]
Jan 26 13:59:58 <JWU42>	markedathome: that is the first one since then
Jan 26 14:00:17 <markedathome>	someone take mah money!
Jan 26 14:03:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.0006761 = 10.7838 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 14:14:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.0006705 = 12.002 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 14:19:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.0006705 = 12.2702 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 14:27:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3302 = 3.302 BTC [-]
Jan 26 14:27:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2687 @ 0.0006705 = 1.8016 BTC [-]
Jan 26 14:27:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00066999 = 15.2423 BTC [-]
Jan 26 14:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00066963 = 11.9194 BTC [-]
Jan 26 14:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16513 @ 0.00066956 = 11.0564 BTC [-]
Jan 26 14:27:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.34 = 1.7 BTC [-]
Jan 26 14:28:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.344 = 1.72 BTC [+]
Jan 26 14:30:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18191 @ 0.00066956 = 12.18 BTC [-]
Jan 26 14:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00066933 = 5.4216 BTC [-]
Jan 26 14:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17413 @ 0.00066827 = 11.6366 BTC [-]
Jan 26 14:30:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10412 @ 0.00066811 = 6.9564 BTC [-]
Jan 26 14:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3484 @ 0.00066723 = 2.3246 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 14:33:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0589 BTC [+]
Jan 26 14:33:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.0006761 = 14.6038 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 14:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00067932 = 11.1408 BTC [+]
Jan 26 14:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00067791 = 0.339 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 14:42:35 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, buying of february bonds is open till today midnight UTC? Ukto tries hard to confuse me :D
Jan 26 14:44:15 *	Ukto is a tryHard
Jan 26 14:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.0073451 = 8.4469 BTC [+]
Jan 26 14:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	48 hours.
Jan 26 14:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	ends monday 0:00 gtm
Jan 26 14:47:48 <jurov>	oh, wasn't it 24 hours?
Jan 26 14:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Jan 26 14:50:39 <jurov>	okay. now, when we sent 100 BTC and 888 satoshi in 1st jan
Jan 26 14:50:55 <jurov>	we should have received 9.99 BTC back, no?
Jan 26 14:51:18 <jurov>	as interest
Jan 26 14:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	o don't tell me i fucked up the interests
Jan 26 14:52:09 <jurov>	http://blockchain.info/tx-index/46616158/66fb17ba094184195d5be1356cdcc945e1a74255b2214c74a4f117a5a236f4a8
Jan 26 14:52:12 <Ukto>	fed
Jan 26 14:52:13 <jurov>	it's only 9.9
Jan 26 14:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	bah
Jan 26 14:52:31 <jurov>	you round it?
Jan 26 14:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	mkay, 2nd payment.
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Jan 26 14:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	thanks for pointing out.
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Jan 26 14:57:16 <jurov>	such a scam :D
Jan 26 14:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	and now i'm going to go use my new whip
Jan 26 14:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	catch y'all later.
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Jan 26 15:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1766 @ 0.00066723 = 1.1783 BTC [-]
Jan 26 15:00:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134 @ 0.00066715 = 0.0894 BTC [-]
Jan 26 15:00:18 <Bowjob>	Oh man.. the dice
Jan 26 15:00:20 <Bowjob>	O_O
Jan 26 15:01:03 <kakobrekla>	indeed.
Jan 26 15:01:55 <Bowjob>	I feel bad selling 12.5k @ 0.0048
Jan 26 15:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00066715 = 4.3031 BTC [-]
Jan 26 15:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1410 @ 0.00066715 = 0.9407 BTC [-]
Jan 26 15:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25750 @ 0.00066712 = 17.1783 BTC [-]
Jan 26 15:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20640 @ 0.00066657 = 13.758 BTC [-]
Jan 26 15:12:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0065 = 6.5 BTC [-]
Jan 26 15:17:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00066657 = 8.1322 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 15:20:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11606 @ 0.00067173 = 7.7961 BTC [+]
Jan 26 15:24:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18094 @ 0.00067173 = 12.1543 BTC [+]
Jan 26 15:24:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2680 @ 0.00067648 = 1.813 BTC [+]
Jan 26 15:24:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 700 @ 0.0068 = 4.76 BTC [+]
Jan 26 15:27:13 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 26 15:27:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.20002, Best ask: 17.20502, Bid-ask spread: 0.00500, Last trade: 17.20502, 24 hour volume: 28109.63396154, 24 hour low: 16.54001, 24 hour high: 17.50000, 24 hour vwap: 17.04697
Jan 26 15:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5636 @ 0.00067648 = 3.8126 BTC [+]
Jan 26 15:27:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00067932 = 1.6643 BTC [+]
Jan 26 15:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1164 @ 0.0006811 = 0.7928 BTC [+]
Jan 26 15:27:34 <jurov>	oo, surreptitiously going up?
Jan 26 15:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00066657 = 7.6656 BTC [-]
Jan 26 15:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00729868 = 7.6636 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 15:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1860 @ 0.00066657 = 1.2398 BTC [-]
Jan 26 15:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5646 @ 0.00066651 = 3.7631 BTC [-]
Jan 26 15:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15794 @ 0.00066535 = 10.5085 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 15:53:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18521 @ 0.00067483 = 12.4985 BTC [+]
Jan 26 15:53:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.344 BTC [+]
Jan 26 15:54:06 <error4733>	i want 60 BTC NOW or i call 5 friend i we'll launch a ddos attak against this channel
Jan 26 15:55:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15747 @ 0.00067483 = 10.6265 BTC [+]
Jan 26 15:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00729868 = 0.7299 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 16:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11162 @ 0.00067053 = 7.4845 BTC [-]
Jan 26 16:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3606 @ 0.00066535 = 2.3993 BTC [-]
Jan 26 16:07:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8145 @ 0.00066494 = 5.4159 BTC [-]
Jan 26 16:10:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2632 @ 0.00067483 = 1.7762 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 16:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12384 @ 0.0006811 = 8.4347 BTC [+]
Jan 26 16:13:59 <markedathome>	error4733: raise you a Chris Tarrant, and.... 100 BTC, for us to be scared of the threat
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Jan 26 16:15:42 <markedathome>	BTW, who ops assets-trades?
Jan 26 16:17:15 <JWU42>	kakobrekla I would assume
Jan 26 16:22:36 <markedathome>	yeah, got msg'd
Jan 26 16:24:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42299 @ 0.0006811 = 28.8098 BTC [+]
Jan 26 16:24:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3551 @ 0.00068223 = 2.4226 BTC [+]
Jan 26 16:38:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11768 @ 0.00067891 = 7.9894 BTC [-]
Jan 26 16:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43832 @ 0.00067619 = 29.6388 BTC [-]
Jan 26 16:39:34 <jurov>	just did short video how to use mpex with raw gpg.. copying hash porn to/fro
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Jan 26 16:40:57 <jurov>	"And when you make a mistake, dear children, bad mircea comes and takes everything. so be carefull."
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Jan 26 16:44:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00068223 = 8.2891 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 16:46:55 <error4733>	:D
Jan 26 16:47:10 <error4733>	Call super rota
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Jan 26 16:50:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11960 @ 0.00068223 = 8.1595 BTC [+]
Jan 26 16:50:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1990 @ 0.00068268 = 1.3585 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 17:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 858 @ 0.00726763 = 6.2356 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 17:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00068153 = 8.485 BTC [-]
Jan 26 17:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8414 @ 0.00067851 = 5.709 BTC [-]
Jan 26 17:34:15 <jurov>	lol, searched reddit for mpoe and ended up with this: http://www.reddit.com/r/cableporn/comments/ol48d/mpoe_done_right/
Jan 26 17:42:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00068268 = 2.048 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 17:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.0006821 = 3.5128 BTC [-]
Jan 26 17:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.0006821 = 13.6761 BTC [-]
Jan 26 17:46:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00067851 = 0.9838 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 17:50:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 16 @ 0.339 = 5.424 BTC [+]
Jan 26 17:50:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.34 = 1.36 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 17:51:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4736 @ 0.00067851 = 3.2134 BTC [-]
Jan 26 17:51:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0006762 = 3.381 BTC [-]
Jan 26 17:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8067 @ 0.00067619 = 5.4548 BTC [-]
Jan 26 17:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00068268 = 8.158 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 17:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00067619 = 15.0114 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 18:12:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1760 @ 0.00068268 = 1.2015 BTC [+]
Jan 26 18:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6940 @ 0.00068308 = 4.7406 BTC [+]
Jan 26 18:16:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00068308 = 7.9579 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 18:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17551 @ 0.00067619 = 11.8678 BTC [-]
Jan 26 18:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13049 @ 0.00067598 = 8.8209 BTC [-]
Jan 26 18:26:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 30 @ 0.0097 = 0.291 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 18:28:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.1172 = 0.586 BTC [-]
Jan 26 18:30:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2800 @ 0.0071 = 19.88 BTC [+]
Jan 26 18:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 160 @ 0.00068308 = 0.1093 BTC [+]
Jan 26 18:31:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13090 @ 0.00068344 = 8.9462 BTC [+]
Jan 26 18:33:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.006 = 0.09 BTC [-]
Jan 26 18:35:30 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 26 18:35:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.41182, Best ask: 17.50852, Bid-ask spread: 0.09670, Last trade: 17.41181, 24 hour volume: 31251.35464879, 24 hour low: 16.54001, 24 hour high: 17.60000, 24 hour vwap: 17.07817
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Jan 26 18:39:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8710 @ 0.00068344 = 5.9528 BTC [+]
Jan 26 18:39:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4840 @ 0.00068475 = 3.3142 BTC [+]
Jan 26 18:42:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 5 @ 0.26381568 = 1.3191 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 18:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4102 @ 0.00067598 = 2.7729 BTC [-]
Jan 26 18:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12198 @ 0.0006725 = 8.2032 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 18:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7884 @ 0.0006725 = 5.302 BTC [-]
Jan 26 18:58:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4166 @ 0.00066522 = 2.7713 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 19:07:12 *	Bugpowder is now known as Guest16139
Jan 26 19:09:45 <Guest16139>	;;bc,stats
Jan 26 19:09:47 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 218204 | Current Difficulty: 2968775.3320751 | Next Difficulty At Block: 219743 | Next Difficulty In: 1539 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 48 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3067538.76098195 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.32673974483
Jan 26 19:09:52 <Guest16139>	;;bc,24hrpc
Jan 26 19:09:53 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrpc" is not a valid command.
Jan 26 19:10:01 <Guest16139>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 26 19:10:04 <gribble>	17.12
Jan 26 19:13:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1000 @ 0.20671187 = 206.7119 BTC [+]
Jan 26 19:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1000 @ 0.18486549 = 184.8655 BTC [+]
Jan 26 19:13:57 <thestringpuller>	heh
Jan 26 19:16:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1000 @ 0.16668965 = 166.6897 BTC [+]
Jan 26 19:16:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 300 @ 0.01 = 3 BTC [+]
Jan 26 19:17:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 15 @ 0.23322918 = 3.4984 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 19:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37670 @ 0.00068452 = 25.7859 BTC [+]
Jan 26 19:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2380 @ 0.00068475 = 1.6297 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 19:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14068 @ 0.00068475 = 9.6331 BTC [+]
Jan 26 19:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46700 @ 0.00068559 = 32.0171 BTC [+]
Jan 26 19:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11471 @ 0.00068634 = 7.873 BTC [+]
Jan 26 19:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5261 @ 0.00068694 = 3.614 BTC [+]
Jan 26 19:32:02 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder_: waddup my neuroscientist friend
Jan 26 19:37:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.0006719 = 9.3394 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 19:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00068694 = 5.3925 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 19:47:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18739 @ 0.00068353 = 12.8087 BTC [-]
Jan 26 19:47:56 <StarenseN>	another big day for S.Dice :)
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Jan 26 19:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 261 @ 0.00068353 = 0.1784 BTC [-]
Jan 26 19:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00068162 = 3.2036 BTC [-]
Jan 26 19:55:16 <Bugpowder_>	yup
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Jan 26 20:04:16 <Bugpowder_>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 26 20:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066494 / 0.0006829 / 0.0007 (3032577 shares, 2,070.97 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065413 / 0.0007 (24219597 shares, 15,842.95 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065271 / 0.0007 (53769225 shares, 35,095.76 BTC)
Jan 26 20:06:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10176 @ 0.0006719 = 6.8373 BTC [-]
Jan 26 20:06:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.001139 = 5.695 BTC [+]
Jan 26 20:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2734 @ 0.00066522 = 1.8187 BTC [-]
Jan 26 20:09:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4366 @ 0.00066405 = 2.8992 BTC [-]
Jan 26 20:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6374 @ 0.00066779 = 4.2565 BTC [+]
Jan 26 20:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5439 @ 0.00068162 = 3.7073 BTC [+]
Jan 26 20:14:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6289 @ 0.00068694 = 4.3202 BTC [+]
Jan 26 20:14:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9572 @ 0.00068857 = 6.591 BTC [+]
Jan 26 20:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
Jan 26 20:22:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1000 @ 0.23385483 = 233.8548 BTC [+]
Jan 26 20:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00067433 = 14.0935 BTC [-]
Jan 26 20:27:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00068459 = 4.5183 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 20:33:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00066405 = 4.3163 BTC [-]
Jan 26 20:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00068344 = 4.6132 BTC [+]
Jan 26 20:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10560 @ 0.00068459 = 7.2293 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 20:47:02 <thestringpuller>	coinbase releases iphone app?
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Jan 26 20:56:58 *	evoorhees is now known as Guest92012
Jan 26 20:58:20 <Guest92012>	IDENTIFY evoorhees 2390g23lih5lhflswien52
Jan 26 20:58:44 <kakobrekla>	change your pssswd.
Jan 26 20:58:48 <kakobrekla>	;)
Jan 26 20:58:51 <Guest92012>	lol how
Jan 26 20:59:01 <kakobrekla>	/msg nickserv help
Jan 26 20:59:26 <Bugpowder_>	n00b
Jan 26 20:59:33 <kakobrekla>	mp did same shit
Jan 26 20:59:39 <kakobrekla>	couple of weeks ago
Jan 26 20:59:41 <kakobrekla>	;)
Jan 26 21:00:00 <Bugpowder_>	 Erik R U worried about bitcoingem taking over the world of bitcoin gambling?
Jan 26 21:01:39 *	Guest92012 is now known as evoorhees
Jan 26 21:01:53 <maximian>	evoorhees: Have you seen this: https://twitter.com/w8hgat4x1fu6c8y/status/295169447226925056 ? Is this the DDoS clown?
Jan 26 21:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8634 @ 0.00066405 = 5.7334 BTC [-]
Jan 26 21:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00066351 = 4.9431 BTC [-]
Jan 26 21:02:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2816 @ 0.00066305 = 1.8671 BTC [-]
Jan 26 21:05:21 <evoorhees>	What does the <key> mean in "Syntax: SETPASS <account> <key> <newpass>"?
Jan 26 21:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6584 @ 0.00067526 = 4.4459 BTC [+]
Jan 26 21:08:15 <kakobrekla>	60
Jan 26 21:08:17 <kakobrekla>	eh
Jan 26 21:08:26 <kakobrekla>	where did they get 60btc
Jan 26 21:08:37 <evoorhees>	not sure... ddos is pretty fail though
Jan 26 21:08:46 <evoorhees>	can you assist me with this?
Jan 26 21:08:48 <evoorhees>	What does the <key> mean in "Syntax: SETPASS <account> <key> <newpass>"?
Jan 26 21:08:57 <kakobrekla>	interesting the numbers match 21:54.04 ( error4733 ) i want 60 BTC NOW or i call 5 friend i we'll launch a ddos attak against this channel
Jan 26 21:08:58 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Jan 26 21:09:01 <kakobrekla>	umm
Jan 26 21:09:08 <kakobrekla>	no clue
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Jan 26 21:09:55 <kakobrekla>	>>SETPASS allows you to set a new password using a key emailed to you.
Jan 26 21:10:07 <kakobrekla>	evoorhees ^^
Jan 26 21:10:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00068459 = 5.1344 BTC [+]
Jan 26 21:10:27 <Bugpowder_>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 26 21:10:28 <gribble>	17.17
Jan 26 21:10:38 <Bugpowder_>	;;;calc 17.17*60
Jan 26 21:10:39 <gribble>	Error: ";calc" is not a valid command.
Jan 26 21:10:44 <Bugpowder_>	;;calc 17.17*60
Jan 26 21:10:44 <gribble>	1030.2
Jan 26 21:10:49 <Bugpowder_>	$1000
Jan 26 21:10:52 <kakobrekla>	ah.
Jan 26 21:11:13 <Bugpowder_>	I wonder if diceoncrack paid?
Jan 26 21:11:41 <Bowjob>	anyone wanna play money matches on SFIV for bitcoins?
Jan 26 21:11:47 <evoorhees>	Insufficient parameters for SETPASS.
Jan 26 21:11:49 <evoorhees>		NickServ	Syntax: SETPASS <account> <key> <newpass>
Jan 26 21:11:51 <evoorhees>	wtf
Jan 26 21:11:54 <evoorhees>	what is <key>??
Jan 26 21:11:59 <kakobrekla>	03:09.53 ( kakobrekla ) >>SETPASS allows you to set a new password using a key emailed to you.
Jan 26 21:11:59 <kakobrekla>	03:10.05 ( kakobrekla ) evoorhees ^^
Jan 26 21:13:22 <Bugpowder_>	Bowjob no
Jan 26 21:13:27 <Bugpowder_>	:)
Jan 26 21:13:33 <maximian>	Extortion of online casinos has a long history.  S.DICE may be the first one that's mostly immune (aside from the website).
Jan 26 21:14:49 <Bugpowder_>	it is hard to get to buy the bitcoin gem
Jan 26 21:15:30 <Bugpowder_>	anyone know how to send block relay alerts to the notification center in osx?
Jan 26 21:15:42 <Bowjob>	So are we on track to beat December's earning? :3
Jan 26 21:15:55 <Bugpowder_>	yes
Jan 26 21:16:05 <Bugpowder_>	its like 18-19k right now
Jan 26 21:16:21 <Bowjob>	Mhm, very impressive actually
Jan 26 21:16:57 <Bowjob>	someone bailed on S.Dice shares dropping Havelock's at 0.44. I wonder what the hell the guy was thinking.
Jan 26 21:17:22 <kakobrekla>	the end is nigh?
Jan 26 21:17:50 <evoorhees>	Bowjob - yes as of current numbers Jan will be Dec
Jan 26 21:17:53 <evoorhees>	amazingly
Jan 26 21:18:03 <evoorhees>	beat*
Jan 26 21:18:10 <Bowjob>	Didn't see that coming, really
Jan 26 21:18:17 <Bugpowder_>	well
Jan 26 21:18:22 <Bugpowder_>	site was down
Jan 26 21:18:29 <Bugpowder_>	i considered panic selling
Jan 26 21:18:38 <Bugpowder_>	then someone his my ask for 100k at .0075
Jan 26 21:18:40 <Bugpowder_>	fucke it
Jan 26 21:18:52 <Bowjob>	My assumption is that if BTC goes up in value, the less S.Dice shares will be worth..
Jan 26 21:18:57 <Bugpowder_>	wrong
Jan 26 21:18:58 <Bowjob>	I'm wrong so far.
Jan 26 21:19:03 <Bugpowder_>	btc is chips
Jan 26 21:19:11 <Bugpowder_>	in s.dice terms
Jan 26 21:19:18 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139129.0
Jan 26 21:19:25 <Bowjob>	My challenge is still there >:)
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Jan 26 21:20:34 <Bowjob>	MPOE-PR posted this message on bitcointalk about this guy losing some 500k shares of S.Dice at 0.0018
Jan 26 21:20:57 <Bowjob>	I wish I was here to experience the frenzy, heh.
Jan 26 21:21:22 <Bugpowder_>	that happened a while ago
Jan 26 21:21:35 <Bugpowder_>	more recently0
Jan 26 21:21:39 <Bugpowder_>	0 k
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Jan 26 21:22:03 <Bowjob>	Wait.. it happened again?
Jan 26 21:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14316 @ 0.00067526 = 9.667 BTC [-]
Jan 26 21:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12343 @ 0.0006645 = 8.2019 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 21:26:22 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138937.msg1481855#msg1481855
Jan 26 21:27:37 <kakobrekla>	legit.
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Jan 26 21:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.7777777 = 2.3333 BTC [+]
Jan 26 21:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Jan 26 21:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 26 21:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00623493 / 0.00711679 / 0.0075 (208579 shares, 1,484.41 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00498425 / 0.0075 (1128924 shares, 5,626.85 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00423684 / 0.0075 (10455136 shares, 44,296.82 BTC)
Jan 26 21:37:58 <Bowjob>	Did we ever find out who the unlucky sap was that sold 500k S.Dice @ 0.0018?
Jan 26 21:38:04 <mircea_popescu>	bope
Jan 26 21:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	nope*
Jan 26 21:38:56 <Bowjob>	I'm sure he has a bitcointalk name. He must be having a rough time right now still..
Jan 26 21:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	why are you sure ?
Jan 26 21:39:18 <Bugpowder>	.0008
Jan 26 21:39:20 <Bugpowder>	actually
Jan 26 21:39:34 <Bowjob>	O_O even worse
Jan 26 21:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	i think only like 15k sold that low
Jan 26 21:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	but there was a 250k at 18
Jan 26 21:40:19 <evoorhees>	hi mircea
Jan 26 21:40:23 <mircea_popescu>	o hey e
Jan 26 21:40:29 <evoorhees>	how goes it
Jan 26 21:40:31 <mircea_popescu>	what happened to site yest ?
Jan 26 21:40:40 <evoorhees>	amateur ddos I think
Jan 26 21:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	well, how goes... same old, pestering people :D
Jan 26 21:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	ah.
Jan 26 21:41:04 <Bugpowder>	one day soon, I will master regular expressions
Jan 26 21:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	posix style ?
Jan 26 21:41:23 <evoorhees>	silly fool doesn't realize a ddos against SD doesn't work
Jan 26 21:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, earlier this month they ddosed mpex
Jan 26 21:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	this was pretty high bw, so it finally made move to the proxy system
Jan 26 21:42:33 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny just how many problems bitcoin resolves. there's not that many internet businesses which can build themselves ddos immunity.
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Jan 26 21:44:07 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Jan 26 21:44:14 <kakobrekla>	if i was doing bank transfers
Jan 26 21:44:18 <kakobrekla>	same shit applys
Jan 26 21:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla well no, blockchain affords erik teh immunitah
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Jan 26 21:44:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10845 @ 0.00068459 = 7.4244 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 21:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1301 @ 0.00733653 = 9.5448 BTC [+]
Jan 26 21:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0073451 = 3.6726 BTC [+]
Jan 26 21:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00741643 = 2.9666 BTC [+]
Jan 26 21:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 599 @ 0.00745 = 4.4626 BTC [+]
Jan 26 21:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13295 @ 0.00068459 = 9.1016 BTC [+]
Jan 26 21:58:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12581 @ 0.00068592 = 8.6296 BTC [+]
Jan 26 21:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4228 @ 0.00066955 = 2.8309 BTC [-]
Jan 26 21:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9057 @ 0.00066476 = 6.0207 BTC [-]
Jan 26 21:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12074 @ 0.00066305 = 8.0057 BTC [-]
Jan 26 21:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141 @ 0.00066298 = 0.0935 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 22:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2742 @ 0.00745 = 20.4279 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 22:05:59 <Bugpowder>	I really think the gem is going to hit 1000BTC in a week
Jan 26 22:06:15 <Bugpowder>	everything we know about the bitcoin community supports this
Jan 26 22:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	o was it you with the gem bet ?
Jan 26 22:06:24 <Bugpowder>	I got a gem bet refunded
Jan 26 22:06:26 <Bugpowder>	btw
Jan 26 22:06:37 <Bugpowder>	withdrawl pending!
Jan 26 22:06:45 <Bugpowder>	gotta buy the gem
Jan 26 22:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	can't do that sorta thing, cause site op can just put 1k in and whoop.
Jan 26 22:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol, is it your site ?
Jan 26 22:06:54 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 26 22:06:58 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 26 22:07:00 <Bugpowder>	not my sit
Jan 26 22:07:02 <Bugpowder>	site
Jan 26 22:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol when are you insane ?!
Jan 26 22:07:12 <Bugpowder>	has this idea never been done?
Jan 26 22:07:22 <kakobrekla>	its like biggest fish
Jan 26 22:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	it's not even an idea!
Jan 26 22:07:25 <kakobrekla>	dead in week or two
Jan 26 22:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla no it's not. biggest fish allows the poor to play.
Jan 26 22:07:35 <Bugpowder>	I mean in bitcoin
Jan 26 22:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	this one is self limiting, as price goes up the sorts of ppl who'd like to play can't anymore.
Jan 26 22:07:48 <Bugpowder>	in bitcoin world has this idea been implemented
Jan 26 22:07:57 <Bugpowder>	uhhh
Jan 26 22:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder not afaik. but i still don't see it's an idea :p
Jan 26 22:08:12 <Bugpowder>	there are people betting 4000 btc at a time on s.dice
Jan 26 22:08:17 <mircea_popescu>	ya dood.
Jan 26 22:08:21 <Bugpowder>	do not underestimate the idiocy of bitcoiners
Jan 26 22:08:29 <Bugpowder>	nor the greed
Jan 26 22:08:47 <mircea_popescu>	hey, if i didn't make statements
Jan 26 22:08:54 <mircea_popescu>	how'd i ever get to look foolish in retrospect ?
Jan 26 22:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident Bugpowder
Jan 26 22:09:37 <gribble>	Nick 'Bugpowder', with hostmask 'Bugpowder!47ab6a02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.171.106.2', is not identified.
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Jan 26 22:13:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/2/s-mpoe-will-crash-this-spring/ this is so fucking flattering.
Jan 26 22:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	200:1 odds ? really ?
Jan 26 22:14:31 <thestringpuller>	"One does not simply crash into MPEx"
Jan 26 22:14:40 <Bugpowder>	I bet 0.3
Jan 26 22:14:45 <Bugpowder>	for
Jan 26 22:14:55 <Bugpowder>	call it a hedge
Jan 26 22:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	wwell ya, makes sense
Jan 26 22:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	i think few people just yet realise how to use bbet for hedging
Jan 26 22:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	like, refund your bfl order, are worried they may ship ? put a yes on that bet, get a little back.
Jan 26 22:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	not refund it, worry they may not ship ? bet no, etc.
Jan 26 22:16:01 <Bugpowder>	regular expression extraction of data is truly an exercise in aligning the precision of what you think you are saying with what you actually are saing
Jan 26 22:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	yeah it's quite the intellectual sport.
Jan 26 22:16:40 <smickles>	Bugpowder: do you need the regex to break down option mpsics?
Jan 26 22:16:42 <smickles>	;)
Jan 26 22:16:49 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 26 22:17:05 <smickles>	one sec, i'll post the one i use
Jan 26 22:17:15 <Bugpowder>	need to parse the orders into cells
Jan 26 22:17:23 <Bugpowder>	I have some shit
Jan 26 22:17:25 <Bugpowder>	that works
Jan 26 22:17:35 <Bugpowder>	but it's probably not as pretty as it should be
Jan 26 22:17:37 <smickles>	are you not using a json parser for that?
Jan 26 22:17:43 <Bugpowder>	wut?
Jan 26 22:17:52 <Bugpowder>	I mean my orders
Jan 26 22:17:54 <Bugpowder>	from the stat
Jan 26 22:18:00 <Bugpowder>	and my holdings
Jan 26 22:18:06 <Bugpowder>	so I know what I can offer
Jan 26 22:18:18 <smickles>	.+\.(.)(\d+)(.)$
Jan 26 22:18:21 <Bugpowder>	is there json form my stat?
Jan 26 22:18:22 <smickles>	that's what I use
Jan 26 22:18:30 <smickles>	STATJSON
Jan 26 22:18:34 <Bugpowder>	fuuuuck
Jan 26 22:18:44 <smickles>	or look at jurov's mpexagent on github
Jan 26 22:18:52 <smickles>	he has the parser for a regular stat
Jan 26 22:19:06 <smickles>	lol, rtfm bug
Jan 26 22:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	smickles uses boobs in regex.
Jan 26 22:19:09 <smickles>	rtfm
Jan 26 22:19:33 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you should expect no less of me :D
Jan 26 22:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	hehehe
Jan 26 22:20:00 <smickles>	ther's a 'd' in the middle of the boobs too
Jan 26 22:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	in retrospect i shoulda made this stuff a lot more complicated
Jan 26 22:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	having parsers and whatnot by 2013 ? outrageous.
Jan 26 22:20:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 111 @ 0.001139 = 0.1264 BTC [+]
Jan 26 22:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> STATJSON <Bugpowder> fuuuuck <smickles> rtfm << mwahaha.
Jan 26 22:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	that precious moment when one realises he's been climbing the wrong hill for the past two days
Jan 26 22:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0014 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Jan 26 22:22:17 <Bugpowder>	I wouldn't say 2 days
Jan 26 22:22:26 <Bugpowder>	maybe 2 hours
Jan 26 22:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	TWO YEARS!
Jan 26 22:22:45 <Bugpowder>	and its totally doable
Jan 26 22:23:10 <Bugpowder>	ie openOrders.names = regexp(tmp{1}, '[OSX][A-Z0-9\.]*(?! : B)','match')'
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Jan 26 22:25:12 <smickles>	remember how someone said something like, 'if i seem great, it's only b/c i have stood on the shoulders of giants'
Jan 26 22:25:23 <smickles>	that applies to code too (sometimes)
Jan 26 22:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	yee
Jan 26 22:26:13 <smickles>	actually, most of the time
Jan 26 22:31:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Jan 26 22:31:32 <Bugpowder>	DAMN THIS GEM
Jan 26 22:32:10 *	smickles refactors
Jan 26 22:32:11 <kakobrekla>	so basically
Jan 26 22:32:17 <kakobrekla>	the owner keeps the last deposit
Jan 26 22:32:21 <kakobrekla>	on the gem?
Jan 26 22:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Jan 26 22:33:53 <Bugpowder>	he also gets 5% of the way up
Jan 26 22:34:22 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Jan 26 22:34:24 <kakobrekla>	damn
Jan 26 22:34:36 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 26 22:34:45 <Bugpowder>	owner gets to borrow the last deposit
Jan 26 22:34:53 <kakobrekla>	i should exclude usefullness factor when i contemplate my next projects
Jan 26 22:34:54 <Bugpowder>	till he takes the site down
Jan 26 22:35:29 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin gem is a scaaaam
Jan 26 22:35:45 <kakobrekla>	ponzee
Jan 26 22:35:47 <kakobrekla>	in a way
Jan 26 22:35:49 <thestringpuller>	PONZI
Jan 26 22:35:54 <thestringpuller>	Charles Ponzi
Jan 26 22:36:07 <kakobrekla>	are you impersonating google?
Jan 26 22:36:44 <Bugpowder>	the math woks out such that the owner takes 55% of the final deposit in cume fees
Jan 26 22:37:04 <kakobrekla>	"For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer.
Jan 26 22:37:04 <kakobrekla>		 (I also have not net connection much of the time.) To look
Jan 26 22:37:05 <kakobrekla>		 at page I send mail to a demon which runs wget and mails the
Jan 26 22:37:05 <kakobrekla>		 page back to me. It is very efficient use of my time, but it
Jan 26 22:37:05 <kakobrekla>		 is slow in real time." - Richard Stallman
Jan 26 22:37:47 <kakobrekla>	funny.
Jan 26 22:39:40 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like rms
Jan 26 22:39:43 <mircea_popescu>	o nm, it is rms
Jan 26 22:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3719 @ 0.00068592 = 2.5509 BTC [+]
Jan 26 22:42:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5871 @ 0.00068857 = 4.0426 BTC [+]
Jan 26 22:43:15 <smickles>	this section of code (which i am refactoring) is like that first stalker (sc2 unit) warped in which somehow lasts through 45 minutes of engagements, only to fall to the last zergling b/f the other guy gg's
Jan 26 22:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Jan 26 22:47:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00735221 = 12.1311 BTC [-]
Jan 26 22:52:07 <jcpham>	 04:37:20 up 467 days,  4:00, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Jan 26 22:52:16 <jcpham>	i'm calling that router stable
Jan 26 22:52:19 <jcpham>	idk
Jan 26 22:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 26 22:52:34 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham is a nice guy, puts router behind firewall
Jan 26 22:53:04 <jcpham>	i'm going tostart using those firewall things one day
Jan 26 22:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8410 @ 0.0006859 = 5.7684 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 23:00:18 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you nerd
Jan 26 23:00:20 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 26 23:00:20 <thestringpuller>	jk
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Jan 26 23:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22558 @ 0.00067662 = 15.2632 BTC [-]
Jan 26 23:03:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8242 @ 0.00067062 = 5.5273 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 23:05:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6090 @ 0.00068132 = 4.1492 BTC [+]
Jan 26 23:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 457 @ 0.00068857 = 0.3147 BTC [+]
Jan 26 23:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2570 @ 0.0006921 = 1.7787 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 23:12:19 <smickles>	hmm, do I shoot for the balmer peak, or not?
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Jan 26 23:12:56 <smickles>	i am on a puzzler of a problem to solve
Jan 26 23:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ?
Jan 26 23:14:51 <smickles>	"Called the Ballmer Peak, it was discovered by Microsoft in the late 80's. The cause is unknown, but somehow a blood alcohol content between 0.129% and 0.138% confers superhuman programming ability"
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Jan 26 23:15:23 <JWU42>	smickles: =)
Jan 26 23:16:23 <smickles>	I'm sure it's just confirmation bias, but I believe it's true based on first hand expiremental evidence
Jan 26 23:16:34 <JWU42>	conman agrees
Jan 26 23:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5958 @ 0.00067062 = 3.9956 BTC [-]
Jan 26 23:24:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17842 @ 0.00066577 = 11.8787 BTC [-]
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Jan 26 23:31:30 <asa1024>	lol
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Jan 26 23:54:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.0006921 = 2.9068 BTC [+]
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Jan 26 23:56:32 <smickles>	SOEBOT refactored and online :)
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Jan 27 00:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	did prev version make a profit ?
Jan 27 00:03:50 <smickles>	it would have if you discounted the initial testing of the short calls
Jan 27 00:04:26 <smickles>	so all-in-all, a small loss
Jan 27 00:04:37 <smickles>	very encouraging, actually
Jan 27 00:05:38 <smickles>	plus, with the spot on move of the other one during that rise to 19, I actually came out ahead overall
Jan 27 00:06:04 <mircea_popescu>	ah so cool
Jan 27 00:07:45 <smickles>	oh, and you could add in the mpbor returns
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Jan 27 00:09:23 <smickles>	yeah, all mpex related thingies were nice this month :)
Jan 27 00:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	a decent start to the year.
Jan 27 00:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	i can tell by the feverish pitch forum hate is reaching.
Jan 27 00:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4303 @ 0.00068585 = 2.9512 BTC [-]
Jan 27 00:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23690 @ 0.00068554 = 16.2404 BTC [-]
Jan 27 00:13:34 <smickles>	heh, mpex's volume 'musta burned a few butts
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Jan 27 00:14:37 <smickles>	average tx, 22 btc. mircea_popescu what sort of average is that?
Jan 27 00:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	total btc traded / transaction count
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Jan 27 00:16:35 <smickles>	woah, s.bbet's chart looks like a lognormal distribution
Jan 27 00:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	smickles totally. im so infatuated with that ipo system...
Jan 27 00:17:35 <kakobrekla>	lognormal doesnt end well
Jan 27 00:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Jan 27 00:17:57 <kakobrekla>	goes towards 0 no?
Jan 27 00:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Jan 27 00:18:11 <mircea_popescu>	i took it to mean the variance is lognormal
Jan 27 00:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	as in, ends up at 0 difference from "real price"
Jan 27 00:18:27 <kakobrekla>	ah
Jan 27 00:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	it's an entire topic in finance this, how to best do ipos
Jan 27 00:18:53 <mircea_popescu>	they're normally a very wasteful endeavour, economically.
Jan 27 00:18:57 <smickles>	well, i meant the price chart just happens to look like a lognormal distribution
Jan 27 00:19:32 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: what do you see as the goal of an ipo?
Jan 27 00:19:47 <smickles>	bring as much money to the company as possible?
Jan 27 00:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	market price of asset to touch real price of asset as soon as possible.
Jan 27 00:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	the faster the 0-infinity window is closed the better.
Jan 27 00:20:58 <smickles>	so you think the method is supressing the share price?
Jan 27 00:21:04 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean ?
Jan 27 00:21:36 <smickles>	I mean to get at why you're inf...oh, i read that as infuriated
Jan 27 00:21:39 <smickles>	nvm
Jan 27 00:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	if a company is oversold on ipo that's usually a very bad thing for the company.
Jan 27 00:22:09 <mircea_popescu>	it's not immediately obvious, but it ruins it more often than not.
Jan 27 00:24:31 <smickles>	;;tslb
Jan 27 00:24:34 <gribble>	Time since last block: 31 minutes and 11 seconds
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Jan 27 00:28:14 <smickles>	;;calc 16/(.26747373-1)
Jan 27 00:28:15 <gribble>	-21.8422200749
Jan 27 00:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	smickles hey, any way you could recompile the windows/macosx binaries for pympex ?
Jan 27 00:37:13 <mircea_popescu>	i think aegis' stuff is out of date.
Jan 27 00:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	or jurov or who else is in the github there ?
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Jan 27 00:40:51 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i've never done that sort of thing, the mac machine i have access too is too old and depreciated, and the windows macine i have access to is annoyingly slow and I don't want to use it.
Jan 27 00:41:26 <mircea_popescu>	hum
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Jan 27 00:45:26 <evoorhees>	hey guys... 1 btc for anyone who can help me with python/mpex.py issue
Jan 27 00:46:33 <evoorhees>	I'm trying mpex.py STAT command, and it's not working
Jan 27 00:46:35 <smickles>	what's the issue?
Jan 27 00:47:14 <jcpham>	help mr. voorhees out smickles
Jan 27 00:47:15 <Bugpowder>	I had to change to code to specify the key
Jan 27 00:47:25 <evoorhees>	C:\Python33>/mpex.py ST
Jan 27 00:47:26 <evoorhees>	  File "C:\mpex.py", li
Jan 27 00:47:28 <evoorhees>	    print '!!!WARNING!!
Jan 27 00:47:28 <Bugpowder>	if your default key is not the mpex one
Jan 27 00:48:59 <smickles>	that warning means that the data from mpex wasn't signed by mpex
Jan 27 00:49:11 <smickles>	do you get it every time?
Jan 27 00:49:30 <evoorhees>	yeah I do now... had to reformat computer so I'm going through process again
Jan 27 00:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees look in mpex.py, does the 10th or so line read
Jan 27 00:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	     self.mpex_url = 'http://mpex.co'
Jan 27 00:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	?
Jan 27 00:50:31 <jcpham>	;;ident evoorhees
Jan 27 00:50:32 <gribble>	Nick 'evoorhees', with hostmask 'evoorhees!~evoorhees@ool-45738bde.dyn.optonline.net', is not identified.
Jan 27 00:51:31 <evoorhees>	yeah it does say that mircea
Jan 27 00:52:26 <smickles>	if you are getting a signed response, and that warning happens, something fishy is going on
Jan 27 00:52:58 <smickles>	either mpex is signing with the wrong key, or someone else is signing it
Jan 27 00:53:13 <smickles>	but, are you actually getting a signed response?
Jan 27 00:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	hum
Jan 27 00:53:21 <evoorhees>	hmmm lemme try something, one min
Jan 27 00:53:30 <evoorhees>	not sure.. how do I tell?
Jan 27 00:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees you should try going through the thing by hand.
Jan 27 00:53:44 <smickles>	is there any output after the warning lines?
Jan 27 00:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	clearsign a stat, then encrypt it, then paste iti nto the site
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Jan 27 00:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	see what happens
Jan 27 00:54:18 <evoorhees>	yeah smickles, it says "SyntaxError: invalid syntax"
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Jan 27 00:59:00 <smickles>	what is mpex retruning to you that causes a syntax error?
Jan 27 01:00:15 <smickles>	'cause after that warning, there rest of the code is basically if reply == '': return none
Jan 27 01:00:26 <smickles>	print reply
Jan 27 01:00:54 <mod6>	doesn't it just work like: mpex.py "STAT"
Jan 27 01:00:54 <mod6>	?
Jan 27 01:01:24 <mod6>	and maybe since you just re-installed, make sure that all is well with the mpex public key on the keyring...
Jan 27 01:01:27 <smickles>	and it's not returning nothing b/c it would've printed "couldn't decode <bla bla bla>
Jan 27 01:02:06 <evoorhees>	I've also tried https://github.com/ageis/MPEx-bin
Jan 27 01:02:16 <evoorhees>	and I get further in the process, but still an error
Jan 27 01:02:35 <smickles>	mpex-bin may have the old address coded in
Jan 27 01:02:56 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees mod6 has a point. are you signing with the right key ?
Jan 27 01:02:58 <smickles>	evoorhees: did it work when you did it mannually?
Jan 27 01:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	a different one might have been picked as tghe default
Jan 27 01:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	when you reinstalled.
Jan 27 01:03:13 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it would've given a different error
Jan 27 01:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	a ? ok then.
Jan 27 01:03:24 <evoorhees>	I've tried signing with both of the email keys I use
Jan 27 01:03:43 <evoorhees>	one min
Jan 27 01:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	if all else fails email me a clearsigned STAT and i'll have it looked at from this end
Jan 27 01:04:40 <smickles>	oh, the newer one has a logger
Jan 27 01:06:37 <smickles>	evoorhees: try with the '-l' option
Jan 27 01:06:42 <smickles>	er
Jan 27 01:06:46 <smickles>	'-l -'
Jan 27 01:06:55 <mircea_popescu>	dude paste a whole line lol.
Jan 27 01:07:10 <evoorhees>	mircea I have no idea what you're talking about :)
Jan 27 01:07:11 <smickles>	python -m mpex -l - STAT
Jan 27 01:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	what's it, ./mpex.py "STAT" -l
Jan 27 01:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Jan 27 01:07:22 <evoorhees>	will try that smickles, one min
Jan 27 01:07:59 <evoorhees>	now... when I downloaded the "mpex.py" file, do I need to put it anywhere?
Jan 27 01:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138988.0 seems diceoncrack ddosed too
Jan 27 01:08:38 <evoorhees>	I placed it in my python folder
Jan 27 01:09:00 <smickles>	you can run it from that folder, or you can grab the setup file and install it
Jan 27 01:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22558 @ 0.00066577 = 15.0184 BTC [-]
Jan 27 01:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2090 @ 0.00066298 = 1.3856 BTC [-]
Jan 27 01:09:40 <smickles>	prolly easier just to run it from the folder
Jan 27 01:09:46 <jcpham>	;;ident evoorhees
Jan 27 01:09:52 <gribble>	Nick 'evoorhees', with hostmask 'evoorhees!~evoorhees@ool-45738bde.dyn.optonline.net', is not identified.
Jan 27 01:10:00 <smickles>	./mpex.py -l - "STAT"
Jan 27 01:10:11 <jcpham>	no offense but i'd be careful about what information i'd give out
Jan 27 01:10:14 <jcpham>	at this point
Jan 27 01:10:16 <mod6>	smickles: is it ./ on windows?
Jan 27 01:10:17 <smickles>	jcpham is skeptical
Jan 27 01:10:34 <smickles>	mod6: heh, prolly not
Jan 27 01:10:51 <evoorhees>	jcpham what do you mean?
Jan 27 01:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham seems mostly "how to use pympex" neh ?
Jan 27 01:10:59 <mod6>	the windows part has me geeked out... I'm not even sure how to execute gpg on windows lol
Jan 27 01:10:59 <smickles>	python mpex.py -l - "STAT"
Jan 27 01:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	smickles do they use " or ' on win ? i recall jurov established the right one
Jan 27 01:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	but i don't recall which
Jan 27 01:11:36 <evoorhees>	okay diff problem now, one sec
Jan 27 01:11:46 <evoorhees>	can't bloody copy text from the cmd prompt
Jan 27 01:11:46 <smickles>	ugg, i dunno, I prefer an OS which allows either mircea_popescu
Jan 27 01:12:00 <mod6>	i would say to also check that key ring to make sure that you see this keyid for mpex: 9214FC6BF1B69921 -- in unix its `gpg --list-keys --keyid-format=long`
Jan 27 01:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol evoorhees sounds like he's in the middle of a real battle there.
Jan 27 01:12:37 <evoorhees>	C:\Python27>python mpex.py -1-"STAT"
Jan 27 01:12:39 <evoorhees>	Traceback (most recent call last):
Jan 27 01:12:40 <evoorhees>	  File "mpex.py", line 3, in <module>
Jan 27 01:12:42 <evoorhees>	    import gnupg
Jan 27 01:12:43 <evoorhees>	ImportError: No module named gnupg
Jan 27 01:12:56 <smickles>	you need to install gnupg
Jan 27 01:13:03 <smickles>	python-gnupg, iirc
Jan 27 01:13:09 <mod6>	that'll help :)
Jan 27 01:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	a!
Jan 27 01:13:17 <evoorhees>	okay, one min
Jan 27 01:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	jesus this -l stuff is nice. who came up with it ?
Jan 27 01:13:35 <jcpham>	i wouldn't want someone to be impersonating him
Jan 27 01:13:45 <jcpham>	nd you guys give him too much info somehow
Jan 27 01:13:51 <jcpham>	and allow it to get worse
Jan 27 01:13:52 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: jurov funded by bugpowder iirc
Jan 27 01:14:01 <mircea_popescu>	im the only one who could give too much info neh ?
Jan 27 01:14:12 <jcpham>	possibly
Jan 27 01:14:14 <jcpham>	depends
Jan 27 01:14:17 <smickles>	jc's just a good watchdog :)
Jan 27 01:14:24 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham gimme like an example ?
Jan 27 01:14:26 <smickles>	'community advocate'
Jan 27 01:14:26 <jcpham>	impersonator could be gathering intel
Jan 27 01:15:09 <evoorhees>	well now it fucking works
Jan 27 01:15:10 <smickles>	well, the way things are going, it might be illegal to know how to use pympex, and this "evoorhees" is a fed :o
Jan 27 01:15:18 <evoorhees>	It wasn't working with python 3.3
Jan 27 01:15:22 <jcpham>	if i come in here one day asking questions and i'm not auth'd
Jan 27 01:15:26 <jcpham>	don't help me
Jan 27 01:15:30 <evoorhees>	I uninstalled it, went back to 2.7, and then added gnupg
Jan 27 01:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham but i mean tech questions ? why not ? public knowledge, or should be.
Jan 27 01:15:52 <smickles>	I'm not sure if pympex is python3 compatible
Jan 27 01:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	ow shit you know what, i think it's 2.x line
Jan 27 01:16:08 <jcpham>	iyou are right
Jan 27 01:16:15 <jcpham>	2.7
Jan 27 01:16:17 <evoorhees>	yeah.... see that's a problem if the link on the site takes you to python download page and 3.3 is at the top
Jan 27 01:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	wd evoorhees
Jan 27 01:16:31 <evoorhees>	FML
Jan 27 01:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	and i guess this should be fixed, yeah. confuses ppls.
Jan 27 01:16:50 <evoorhees>	lol
Jan 27 01:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	gave a moment's pause there cause wtf, someone is signing as mpex wioth the wrong key ?!
Jan 27 01:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	what sort of uber rootkit you'd have to have on your system for that 1...
Jan 27 01:17:36 <jcpham>	well let's say eric's pc is exploited and the people don't know how to use mpex
Jan 27 01:17:46 <jcpham>	and they want to cause havok
Jan 27 01:17:54 <jcpham>	but they don't have a clue what to do
Jan 27 01:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	and so they stop by the irc chan and have a chat ?
Jan 27 01:18:02 <jcpham>	sure why not
Jan 27 01:18:09 <evoorhees>	hey jcpham... how do I "authenticate"?
Jan 27 01:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	so basically "what if erik is kidnapped by 6 buxom airheads"
Jan 27 01:18:16 <smickles>	well, it's possible
Jan 27 01:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	i'd guess... he wouldn't mind... so very much.
Jan 27 01:18:37 <jcpham>	;;eauth identity
Jan 27 01:18:37 <gribble>	Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
Jan 27 01:18:45 <jcpham>	;;everify response
Jan 27 01:18:46 <gribble>	Error: Could not find a pending authentication request from your hostmask. Either it expired, or you changed hostmask, or you haven't made one.
Jan 27 01:18:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 27 01:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	i think jcpham is actually being impersonated
Jan 27 01:19:04 <jcpham>	also ,,baa
Jan 27 01:19:14 <smickles>	,, is -otc only
Jan 27 01:19:21 <jcpham>	meh
Jan 27 01:19:52 <jcpham>	i'm just saying, i've seen him authenticate
Jan 27 01:19:59 <evoorhees>	jcpham... how do I do it?
Jan 27 01:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. evoorhees : you type in ;;eauth evoorhees
Jan 27 01:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	the bot gives you a link
Jan 27 01:20:16 <evoorhees>	;;eauth evoorhees
Jan 27 01:20:17 <gribble>	Request successful for user evoorhees, hostmask evoorhees!~evoorhees@ool-45738bde.dyn.optonline.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/0272EF6FD370840C
Jan 27 01:20:17 <mircea_popescu>	you then decrypt the contents of that link in gpg
Jan 27 01:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	and then you go ;;everify <?enterresulthere?>
Jan 27 01:21:00 <evoorhees>	;;everify -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Jan 27 01:21:00 <gribble>	(everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
Jan 27 01:21:02 <evoorhees>	hQEMA2r98eA5gHNkAQf9EM5TP/idfBexaM+7rOSFc14wlqtB06D+HwgKRAxDbBxQ
Jan 27 01:21:04 <evoorhees>	fQCbVfwIqvs1D+EDd2WU3wWusGLzqUr8RPNwVKTR20yD43U8jHSHDgIWS+9UYYSh
Jan 27 01:21:06 <evoorhees>	y8QbU933JftsTLrab6k+saCaWhYSVv+cKXE4TWrk/gF7TU6hBXYwOmsmALCw/sGE
Jan 27 01:21:07 <evoorhees>	psyrM0FqdIzSNgnN104l5OUwBrBu2It5h7VETP6r2PeFeNFCTsZFViUYEd79fk9a
Jan 27 01:21:09 <evoorhees>	1esQ5K3C1pFcqOderp4NmBeUWnOOaVsrnozCOkms9Aq97RoE4gZKkkbzZBz0Bl+6
Jan 27 01:21:10 <evoorhees>	ss2yCm5NfCDOEftngH+Ht0WxVR85xMik4Heg80YoPdKIAfISkZremhvmJVPrl2ql
Jan 27 01:21:12 <evoorhees>	jlbLoz1JHBEmbASsS1q5KnNd+RixpMjnLj0tXbzudqOwMdSJcL27VyDNeiLbb0wm
Jan 27 01:21:13 <evoorhees>	C0z8Pv/WBVMwh7MBBCZS0QMEd2cVnL6D+qFfwTUnD+XORSEsw3RPWRT8X7LhdHcZ
Jan 27 01:21:15 <evoorhees>	elSjlp+xedJV5YhK4P2vF9cgdWW/GuQyCA==
Jan 27 01:21:15 <smickles>	https://github.com/Azelphur/pyMPEx/pull/4
Jan 27 01:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	lolz mk.
Jan 27 01:21:16 <evoorhees>	=h6/j
Jan 27 01:21:18 <evoorhees>	-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
Jan 27 01:21:25 <mod6>	you need to decrypt that message with GnuPG (gpg)
Jan 27 01:21:26 <jcpham>	decrypt it
Jan 27 01:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	smickles any idea why pyumpex doesn't work in py 3.3 btw ?
Jan 27 01:21:41 <jcpham>	;;everify the decrypted response string
Jan 27 01:21:42 <gribble>	(everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
Jan 27 01:21:45 <evoorhees>	lol this stuff is absurdly obtuse
Jan 27 01:21:57 <mod6>	the decrypted message itself is the one time password to auth with gribble
Jan 27 01:21:59 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: different syntax
Jan 27 01:22:04 <jcpham>	it's identity verification through public/private keys
Jan 27 01:22:05 <mod6>	evoorhees: not in the least, actually.
Jan 27 01:22:08 <mircea_popescu>	smickles so not really resolvable huh
Jan 27 01:22:09 <jcpham>	just like bitcoin
Jan 27 01:22:15 <mod6>	^^^^
Jan 27 01:22:21 <evoorhees>	no... bitcoin is just a bit complicated
Jan 27 01:22:25 <evoorhees>	this is crazy shit here
Jan 27 01:22:35 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it is, actually, there are 2to3 scripts
Jan 27 01:22:35 <jcpham>	you can use bitcoin address to identify with gribble also
Jan 27 01:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	you know that word keeps cropping up... somebody was calling me obtuse on my blog the other day
Jan 27 01:22:38 <jcpham>	same thing
Jan 27 01:22:44 <jcpham>	pub/private key
Jan 27 01:22:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00066298 = 11.5359 BTC [-]
Jan 27 01:22:59 <jcpham>	gribble verifies your key, we're all on the up and up
Jan 27 01:23:03 <smickles>	evoorhees: how did you auth before?
Jan 27 01:23:15 <evoorhees>	yeah but you don't need to be pasting and calling up commands and going through fifteen steps to use bitcoin
Jan 27 01:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees depends. some people use bitcoind :D
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Jan 27 01:23:40 <jcpham>	i have my auth scripted
Jan 27 01:23:48 <jcpham>	minus being prompted for a password
Jan 27 01:23:54 <mod6>	*whew*
Jan 27 01:23:59 <evoorhees>	see that sentence right there jcpham "i have my auth scripted"...  wtf does that mean?
Jan 27 01:24:00 <smickles>	;;gpg info evoorhees
Jan 27 01:24:00 <gribble>	User 'evoorhees', with keyid 0272EF6FD370840C, fingerprint 91A1C2DC46AF4B744EF9E0250272EF6FD370840C, and bitcoin address None, registered on Sat Aug 18 12:08:51 2012. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=evoorhees . Currently not authenticated.
Jan 27 01:24:01 <evoorhees>	lol
Jan 27 01:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees he has a script that does the authing for yu. what you're doing now manually.
Jan 27 01:24:24 <smickles>	it means he has a program do it for him
Jan 27 01:24:25 <jcpham>	i don't mean to be a dick, i really don't
Jan 27 01:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	like pympex is a script for mpex
Jan 27 01:24:38 <jcpham>	i'd hate to see some one impersoante you
Jan 27 01:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	that's true, could be a pretty big hole.
Jan 27 01:24:54 <jcpham>	yes
Jan 27 01:24:59 <mod6>	hmmm.. pic with shoe on head?
Jan 27 01:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees so how you doing on the decrypt ?
Jan 27 01:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	you just start gpg and paste the content of gribble's link in there
Jan 27 01:25:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3004 = 0.6008 BTC [-]
Jan 27 01:25:31 <smickles>	how did he get this thing registered, if he can't auth now?
Jan 27 01:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile, "Sacred Ritual class next weekend in Portland, accepting bitcoin"
Jan 27 01:25:39 <smickles>	/¯(°_o)/¯
Jan 27 01:25:43 <evoorhees>	I mean... all this stuff, how it works now, is great for hackers and tech people, but unfortunately the world will not be using privacy and ITsec when they work like this
Jan 27 01:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i think he did it the normal way but meanwhile lost the hang of it
Jan 27 01:26:04 <evoorhees>	maybe it's good that the avg govt worker doesn't know how to use this stuff
Jan 27 01:26:14 <jcpham>	i feel trolled
Jan 27 01:26:19 <jcpham>	i'm leaving
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Jan 27 01:26:35 <smickles>	ya know, an iPhone app could be written to do all this for people
Jan 27 01:26:49 <smickles>	and keep your keys on dropbox
Jan 27 01:26:54 <smickles>	it'd be trendy
Jan 27 01:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	and what is that iphone app's writer waiting for ?
Jan 27 01:27:15 <smickles>	well, i have an mpex for android
Jan 27 01:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	once mod6 figures out how to store keys safely and gets iphone mpex tool
Jan 27 01:27:24 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine it'll be a little boom
Jan 27 01:27:37 <mod6>	im getting there :)
Jan 27 01:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which, how's it going ? xmas is here soon... :D
Jan 27 01:27:53 <mod6>	lol
Jan 27 01:28:15 <evoorhees>	mircea I'm confused... pming you
Jan 27 01:28:19 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: actualy, that short story I wrote
Jan 27 01:28:20 <mod6>	ikr... man, workin constantly doing this other stuff.  but trying to wrap that stuff up so I can work on bitotter more
Jan 27 01:28:51 <smickles>	involved just such a program to make it easy to gpg, contract, bitcoin, all that as verbs
Jan 27 01:29:05 <smickles>	"RegniCoin"
Jan 27 01:29:16 <mod6>	smickles: apple is well, what it is i guess. but they pulled their bitcoin related apps didn't they?!
Jan 27 01:29:30 <mod6>	this past year
Jan 27 01:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident mircea_popescu
Jan 27 01:29:30 <gribble>	Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified.
Jan 27 01:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Jan 27 01:29:35 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Jan 27 01:29:41 <mod6>	so piss on apple until they get with the program
Jan 27 01:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:003377ad48763577a9ee8486e79ff52d5114852b7abc858643b8167b
Jan 27 01:30:03 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Jan 27 01:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	gah
Jan 27 01:30:08 <mod6>	thats why android first :)
Jan 27 01:30:16 <smickles>	contracts were as easy as speaking "I agree to send 1 btc to the indicated address in exchange for a ride to wal-mart" to your phone
Jan 27 01:30:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:003377ad48763577a9ee8486e79ff52d5114852b7abc858643b8167b
Jan 27 01:30:18 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Jan 27 01:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident mircea_popescu
Jan 27 01:30:21 <gribble>	Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user mircea_popescu, with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
Jan 27 01:30:26 <mod6>	;;ident mod6
Jan 27 01:30:27 <gribble>	Nick 'mod6', with hostmask 'mod6!fb699aa74e@rider.us', is identified as user mod6, with GPG key id D655A630A13E8C69, key fingerprint AD7EA6BB386273FCAA5AE7ABD655A630A13E8C69, and bitcoin address None
Jan 27 01:30:34 <mod6>	wewt
Jan 27 01:31:06 <smickles>	the program would fill in the address based on your contacts list,
Jan 27 01:31:14 <smickles>	the whole 9 yards basically
Jan 27 01:31:31 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool.
Jan 27 01:31:36 <smickles>	fool proof, unless you had your phone stolen w/o any lockscreen security
Jan 27 01:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	i think they're gonna start making selfdestruct phones
Jan 27 01:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	if i were running apple that's what i'd do.
Jan 27 01:32:11 <smickles>	don't need to
Jan 27 01:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	phone identifies your touch, if tyouched by anyone else it explodes.
Jan 27 01:32:28 <smickles>	apple is encrypted to the point that it doesn't matter if you password it
Jan 27 01:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	just for the hell of it.
Jan 27 01:32:45 <lautaro>	;;eauth lautaro
Jan 27 01:32:45 <gribble>	Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
Jan 27 01:33:02 <smickles>	well, just for the hell of it, i'd have it shoot razorwire out ot their eyes
Jan 27 01:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Jan 27 01:33:21 <mircea_popescu>	be like "here you go, a phone for you"
Jan 27 01:33:23 <mircea_popescu>	BOOM
Jan 27 01:34:23 <smickles>	the first place where I lived on my own, I setup razorwire traps on the inside of all entrances. an unauthorized person would have 3 lengths of razorwire wrapped around them
Jan 27 01:34:32 <smickles>	those were fun to build
Jan 27 01:34:43 <mircea_popescu>	maniac.
Jan 27 01:34:51 <smickles>	simple too. cinderblock, razorwire, rope, pully
Jan 27 01:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	i'd have had a buncha hurt womenz on my hands ;/
Jan 27 01:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00735041 = 4.4102 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 01:35:39 <mod6>	that's some kinda security, be glad you didn't have a fire and have to use the window ;)
Jan 27 01:35:42 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: this was at a time when i liven in a place where the police had a tendancy to raid 'the wrong house'
Jan 27 01:36:09 <mircea_popescu>	a. police here is nice, basically.
Jan 27 01:36:10 <smickles>	mod6: actually, going out wouldn't set it off
Jan 27 01:36:44 <mod6>	haha nice
Jan 27 01:37:14 <smickles>	and the tucson police are awesome, I don't hardly ever see them, so i think there arn't many of them 'per capita'.
Jan 27 01:37:25 <mod6>	there used to be
Jan 27 01:37:26 <mod6>	lol
Jan 27 01:37:37 <mod6>	but the tpd never fucked with me too hard
Jan 27 01:37:50 <mod6>	but the county boys were always giving me a run for my money
Jan 27 01:37:52 <smickles>	i'm told that the low crime in my area is unrelated to the low amt of police
Jan 27 01:38:20 <smickles>	mod6: might just be my neighborhood
Jan 27 01:38:47 <mod6>	tucson is really just patchy like that. some spots awesome, some spots not quite as awesome
Jan 27 01:43:13 <mod6>	i gotta take a vacation one of these days and go see my friends down there
Jan 27 01:43:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3319 @ 0.00066298 = 2.2004 BTC [-]
Jan 27 01:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22881 @ 0.00066287 = 15.1671 BTC [-]
Jan 27 01:44:48 <mod6>	i miss the weather and the sunsets. :P
Jan 27 01:45:06 <mod6>	minneapolis is like an icebox
Jan 27 01:46:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3321 @ 0.00066287 = 2.2014 BTC [-]
Jan 27 01:46:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00066281 = 12.4608 BTC [-]
Jan 27 01:46:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006627 = 6.627 BTC [-]
Jan 27 01:46:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1929 @ 0.00066269 = 1.2783 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 01:51:36 <mod6>	hmmmm
Jan 27 01:52:05 <mod6>	jcpham: you can't ever be too paranoid
Jan 27 01:52:27 <mod6>	its good to watch this kinda stuff
Jan 27 01:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	fo sho
Jan 27 01:53:39 <mod6>	did he ever get auth'd?
Jan 27 01:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	with gribble ? nope
Jan 27 01:55:18 <mod6>	oh.. hmm. *shrug*
Jan 27 01:57:51 <mod6>	smickles: have you been up to flagstaff yet?
Jan 27 01:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	seems seals with clubs got dosed too
Jan 27 02:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11424 @ 0.0006668 = 7.6175 BTC [+]
Jan 27 02:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 27 02:14:07 <gribble>	Time since last block: 5 minutes and 2 seconds
Jan 27 02:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00066631 = 11.5938 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 02:18:49 <mod6>	well, i suppose i better try to finish up that aws stuff. i'll bbs :)
Jan 27 02:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.0006668 = 13.7027 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 02:45:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00066631 = 2.9984 BTC [-]
Jan 27 02:45:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00066269 = 10.4374 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 02:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2521 @ 0.00066269 = 1.6706 BTC [-]
Jan 27 02:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19979 @ 0.0006622 = 13.2301 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 02:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/26/former-brain-dead-liberal-filmmaker-pens-scathing-column-on-gun-control-a-political-appeal-to-the-ignorant/
Jan 27 02:51:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00735041 = 1.8376 BTC [-]
Jan 27 02:54:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3276 @ 0.0006668 = 2.1844 BTC [+]
Jan 27 02:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9092 @ 0.00066762 = 6.07 BTC [+]
Jan 27 02:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.0006622 = 15.0651 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 03:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10227 @ 0.0006622 = 6.7723 BTC [-]
Jan 27 03:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3173 @ 0.00066179 = 2.0999 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 03:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23926 @ 0.00066516 = 15.9146 BTC [+]
Jan 27 03:52:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16919 @ 0.00066392 = 11.2329 BTC [-]
Jan 27 03:52:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7127 @ 0.00066179 = 4.7166 BTC [-]
Jan 27 03:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00066135 = 15.5417 BTC [-]
Jan 27 03:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77880 @ 0.00066059 = 51.4467 BTC [-]
Jan 27 03:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2088 @ 0.00066033 = 1.3788 BTC [-]
Jan 27 04:00:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00066621 = 1.8654 BTC [+]
Jan 27 04:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00738484 = 16.9851 BTC [+]
Jan 27 04:18:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14912 @ 0.00066033 = 9.8468 BTC [-]
Jan 27 04:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9888 @ 0.0006582 = 6.5083 BTC [-]
Jan 27 04:21:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 0.989 = 4.945 BTC [-]
Jan 27 04:23:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41793 @ 0.0006582 = 27.5082 BTC [-]
Jan 27 04:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.0006582 = 13.2298 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 04:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.0006582 = 9.0832 BTC [-]
Jan 27 04:45:28 <jurov>	smickles, mpex.py -l - DISABLES logging. read teh help...
Jan 27 04:45:36 <jurov>	oh hes not here
Jan 27 04:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 779 @ 0.00066621 = 0.519 BTC [+]
Jan 27 04:46:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8008 @ 0.00066762 = 5.3463 BTC [+]
Jan 27 04:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25163 @ 0.00066794 = 16.8074 BTC [+]
Jan 27 04:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3937 @ 0.00066794 = 2.6297 BTC [+]
Jan 27 04:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4015 @ 0.0006681 = 2.6824 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 04:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5685 @ 0.0006681 = 3.7981 BTC [+]
Jan 27 04:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00066822 = 5.8135 BTC [+]
Jan 27 05:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15615 @ 0.00066836 = 10.4364 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 05:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14555 @ 0.00066005 = 9.607 BTC [-]
Jan 27 05:16:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13975 @ 0.00066836 = 9.3403 BTC [+]
Jan 27 05:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00066836 = 0.6015 BTC [+]
Jan 27 05:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 27 05:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov oddly seems to have worked ? or i dunno.
Jan 27 05:24:11 <jurov>	yes, it works as usual it just won't output anything to log file if you pass -l -
Jan 27 05:24:31 <jurov>	if you don't pass -l parameter it logs to ./mpex.log
Jan 27 05:26:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3145 @ 0.00066775 = 2.1001 BTC [-]
Jan 27 05:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	i c.
Jan 27 05:26:33 <jurov>	any other value is considered log path/filename to be used instead of mpex.log
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Jan 27 05:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16340 @ 0.00066743 = 10.9058 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 05:48:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00066743 = 11.6133 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 05:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00066305 = 3.0169 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 06:00:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Jan 27 06:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 27 06:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0064388 / 0.00723965 / 0.0075 (188520 shares, 1,364.82 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00500419 / 0.0075 (1115361 shares, 5,581.48 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00424022 / 0.0075 (10461746 shares, 44,360.19 BTC)
Jan 27 06:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	.8 eh
Jan 27 06:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8819 @ 0.0006582 = 5.8047 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:03:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00065675 = 9.3587 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:03:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5931 @ 0.00065616 = 3.8917 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.minus.com/ipcfdyRde5WcI.gif
Jan 27 06:12:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00738484 = 0.3692 BTC [+]
Jan 27 06:12:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00738465 = 11.4462 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.007323 = 7.6892 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:15:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8019 @ 0.00065616 = 5.2617 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:15:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00065588 = 8.7888 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20450 @ 0.00065586 = 13.4123 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:15:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2281 @ 0.00065558 = 1.4954 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.00745 = 28.31 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 06:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident bitcoin5411
Jan 27 06:44:06 <gribble>	Nick 'bitcoin5411', with hostmask 'bitcoin5411!~bitcoin54@190.244.81.62', is not identified.
Jan 27 06:44:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;gettrust bitcoin5411
Jan 27 06:44:29 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bitcoin5411: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=bitcoin5411
Jan 27 06:52:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.00729616 = 0.0511 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:52:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 80 @ 0.00725542 = 0.5804 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:52:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1513 @ 0.00725541 = 10.9774 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 79 @ 0.00725541 = 0.5732 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2122 @ 0.00723577 = 15.3543 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:56:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 149 @ 0.00722182 = 1.0761 BTC [-]
Jan 27 06:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9341 @ 0.00065596 = 6.1273 BTC [+]
Jan 27 06:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7759 @ 0.00065704 = 5.098 BTC [+]
Jan 27 07:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00065558 = 10.5548 BTC [-]
Jan 27 07:07:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0569 BTC [-]
Jan 27 07:08:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.057 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 07:39:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11826 @ 0.00065704 = 7.7702 BTC [+]
Jan 27 07:39:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.0006593 = 14.3068 BTC [+]
Jan 27 07:39:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5470 @ 0.00066305 = 3.6269 BTC [+]
Jan 27 07:47:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00066305 = 3.2158 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 07:57:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 661 @ 0.00066305 = 0.4383 BTC [+]
Jan 27 07:57:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15239 @ 0.00066636 = 10.1547 BTC [+]
Jan 27 08:05:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00065587 = 11.0514 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10319 @ 0.00065558 = 6.7649 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1181 @ 0.00065493 = 0.7735 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:15:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 18000 @ 0.001139 = 20.502 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:23:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00065703 = 10.5125 BTC [+]
Jan 27 08:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00066033 = 3.929 BTC [+]
Jan 27 08:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00066033 = 5.976 BTC [+]
Jan 27 08:27:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4511 @ 0.00066636 = 3.0059 BTC [+]
Jan 27 08:27:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5339 @ 0.00066679 = 3.56 BTC [+]
Jan 27 08:34:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 561 @ 0.00066679 = 0.3741 BTC [+]
Jan 27 08:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5255 @ 0.00066743 = 3.5073 BTC [+]
Jan 27 08:34:59 <kakobrekla>	http://www.amazon.com/dp/160530641X/?tag=codihorr-20
Jan 27 08:40:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00066465 = 1.2628 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:40:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10486 @ 0.00065544 = 6.8729 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla congratulations! boy or girl ?
Jan 27 08:41:09 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 27 08:41:25 <kakobrekla>	i wish that does not happen yet
Jan 27 08:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 27 08:41:34 <kakobrekla>	or ever.
Jan 27 08:42:25 <kakobrekla>	i have two brothers, ~22 and ~21 years younger than me
Jan 27 08:42:35 <kakobrekla>	could just have them
Jan 27 08:42:38 <kakobrekla>	instead of my kids
Jan 27 08:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	haha wow.
Jan 27 08:50:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11181 @ 0.00066038 = 7.3837 BTC [+]
Jan 27 08:56:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.3004 = 1.2016 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:56:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3004 = 0.6008 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:56:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 11 @ 0.3003 = 3.3033 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:56:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:56:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [-]
Jan 27 08:57:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3501 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 09:01:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3258 @ 0.00066038 = 2.1515 BTC [+]
Jan 27 09:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5614 @ 0.00065544 = 3.6796 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 619 @ 0.00065493 = 0.4054 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6418 @ 0.00065437 = 4.1997 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:03:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2282 @ 0.00065437 = 1.4933 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.0006542 = 3.0093 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11918 @ 0.00065401 = 7.7945 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 09:05:45 <EskimoBob>	good morning
Jan 27 09:08:49 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident mircea_popescu
Jan 27 09:08:49 <gribble>	Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified.
Jan 27 09:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Jan 27 09:09:03 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Jan 27 09:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:de790257e5a4b9d6efd7aae3ee154d1d499018b75cdb32a818f57b8f
Jan 27 09:09:31 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Jan 27 09:10:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate bugpowder 3 I'd be very much surprised if he ran off with your coins.
Jan 27 09:10:14 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user bugpowder has changed from 1 to 3.
Jan 27 09:10:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;unrate pigeons
Jan 27 09:10:56 <gribble>	Successfully removed your rating for pigeons.
Jan 27 09:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate rdponticelli 1 been around for a while.
Jan 27 09:12:15 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rdponticelli has changed from 2 to 1.
Jan 27 09:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate rdponticelli 2 He's in the MPEx FAQ!
Jan 27 09:12:34 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rdponticelli has changed from 1 to 2.
Jan 27 09:20:24 <EskimoBob>	( mircea_popescu | ;;unrate pigeons )  lol! So, you finally got it?
Jan 27 09:20:36 <EskimoBob>	fkn horse thieve :)
Jan 27 09:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.1755816 = 0.5267 BTC [+]
Jan 27 09:25:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 2 @ 0.17513865 = 0.3503 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:29:04 <mircea_popescu>	that your bot smickles ?
Jan 27 09:29:32 <EskimoBob>	damn, I guess this HDD is dead :(
Jan 27 09:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.17510239 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 09:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2532 @ 0.00065401 = 1.656 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00065316 = 0.2286 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:35:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20673 @ 0.00065315 = 13.5026 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6356 @ 0.00065303 = 4.1507 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00065297 = 2.2201 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00065261 = 5.8082 BTC [-]
Jan 27 09:46:18 <thestringpuller>	"mr. popescu I have a warrant for your extradition"
Jan 27 09:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00745 = 7.45 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 10:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10566 @ 0.00065107 = 6.8792 BTC [-]
Jan 27 10:10:55 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 27 10:10:55 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 32 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <smickles> mod6: might just be my neighborhood
Jan 27 10:11:06 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mod6
Jan 27 10:11:06 <gribble>	mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 52 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <mod6> well, i suppose i better try to finish up that aws stuff. i'll bbs :)
Jan 27 10:15:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0087 = 0.87 BTC [-]
Jan 27 10:15:59 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 27 10:16:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.70005, Best ask: 17.70404, Bid-ask spread: 0.00399, Last trade: 17.70000, 24 hour volume: 32922.39363327, 24 hour low: 16.80000, 24 hour high: 17.99999, 24 hour vwap: 17.45621
Jan 27 10:16:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0088 = 0.88 BTC [+]
Jan 27 10:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21048121 BTC [+]
Jan 27 10:23:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.17271225 BTC [-]
Jan 27 10:24:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 27 @ 0.0089 = 0.2403 BTC [+]
Jan 27 10:26:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00745 = 10.43 BTC [+]
Jan 27 10:26:47 <thestringpuller>	geez
Jan 27 10:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.2195444 BTC [+]
Jan 27 10:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.18446008 BTC [+]
Jan 27 10:36:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.17267589 BTC [-]
Jan 27 10:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21039942 BTC [-]
Jan 27 10:37:30 <thestringpuller>	straight up arbritrage that has to be smickles bot...
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Jan 27 10:39:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11936 @ 0.00065131 = 7.774 BTC [+]
Jan 27 10:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15834 @ 0.00065107 = 10.309 BTC [-]
Jan 27 10:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00065076 = 22.7115 BTC [-]
Jan 27 10:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8784 @ 0.00065009 = 5.7104 BTC [-]
Jan 27 10:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.17263946 BTC [-]
Jan 27 10:50:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.18578383 BTC [+]
Jan 27 10:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21057661 BTC [+]
Jan 27 10:52:12 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: you have the Peter Lambert endorsement! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138769.msg1482389#msg1482389
Jan 27 10:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.17228919 BTC [-]
Jan 27 10:57:39 <thestringpuller>	next line: Mwhuhahaha F MPEX! LOL
Jan 27 10:57:41 <thestringpuller>	And his Romanian Hooker Industrie.
Jan 27 10:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5003 @ 0.00065131 = 3.2585 BTC [+]
Jan 27 10:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12197 @ 0.0006601 = 8.0512 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:00:31 <jurov>	Greets from unsystem
Jan 27 11:00:55 <jurov>	quite a mess, 100ppl in small room
Jan 27 11:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10420 @ 0.0006601 = 6.8782 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:01:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12454 @ 0.00066096 = 8.2316 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00066435 = 0.2325 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 224 @ 0.00066436 = 0.1488 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:02:14 <jurov>	frank braun dude talking about red pill with covered mouth
Jan 27 11:02:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00745 = 11.92 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:04:17 <thestringpuller>	wtf does that even mean?
Jan 27 11:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.17132517 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:04:29 <thestringpuller>	the reason stocks go up at the end of the month is because of dividends
Jan 27 11:04:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 218 @ 0.00745 = 1.6241 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:04:41 <thestringpuller>	mpoe was at an all time high yesterday
Jan 27 11:05:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21131361 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:06:06 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Jan 27 11:06:06 <assbot>	The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
Jan 27 11:06:10 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Jan 27 11:06:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.86000, Best ask: 17.86999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 17.86000, 24 hour volume: 34294.32645943, 24 hour low: 16.80000, 24 hour high: 17.99999, 24 hour vwap: 17.48678
Jan 27 11:06:21 <Diablo-D3>	jesus christ we're going back up again
Jan 27 11:09:15 <thestringpuller>	just for a little bit, the price is volatile right now...
Jan 27 11:09:41 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Jan 27 11:09:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00065009 / 0.00067014 / 0.0006941 (2679116 shares, 1,795.39 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065507 / 0.0007 (24905979 shares, 16,315.34 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065322 / 0.0007 (54291563 shares, 35,464.78 BTC)
Jan 27 11:11:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.17097757 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:12:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21152998 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:17:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.23838039 = 0.7151 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:19:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.17097757 = 0.5129 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:19:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.23509237 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:21:13 <thestringpuller>	look at smickles bot go as the price moves XD
Jan 27 11:21:18 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 27 11:21:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.69753, Best ask: 17.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00247, Last trade: 17.70000, 24 hour volume: 34557.18061017, 24 hour low: 16.83255, 24 hour high: 17.99999, 24 hour vwap: 17.49307
Jan 27 11:24:22 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 27 11:24:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.68501, Best ask: 17.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01499, Last trade: 17.70000, 24 hour volume: 34594.12117077, 24 hour low: 16.83255, 24 hour high: 17.99999, 24 hour vwap: 17.49381
Jan 27 11:25:38 <FabianB>	jurov: you're just attending or also presenting coinbr?
Jan 27 11:26:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.17094214 = 0.5128 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:26:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 12 @ 0.0097 = 0.1164 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21149215 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 11:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.23939225 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 11:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.17090276 = 0.5127 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:34:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.2392789 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21107001 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 11:39:30 <jurov>	I'm presenting. Dunno when,it's quite a mess.
Jan 27 11:39:53 *	Guest14843 is now known as evoorhees
Jan 27 11:41:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00066436 = 11.6263 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.17086708 = 0.5126 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.2392789 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 11:43:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21107001 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:43:29 <smickles>	< mod6> smickles: have you been up to flagstaff yet? << I've visited there years ago, but not since I moved out here.
Jan 27 11:44:05 <smickles>	< jurov> smickles, mpex.py -l - DISABLES logging. read teh help... << I know, but I suspected the syntax error came from the logger at the time.
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Jan 27 11:50:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.2392789 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:50:08 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> that your bot smickles ? << could be
Jan 27 11:50:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.1916273 = 0.5749 BTC [+]
Jan 27 11:52:34 <smickles>	;;calc 16/(.17-1)
Jan 27 11:52:34 <gribble>	-19.2771084337
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Jan 27 11:54:01 <smickles>	;;calc 16/(.19+1)
Jan 27 11:54:01 <gribble>	13.4453781513
Jan 27 11:55:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 365 @ 0.00742893 = 2.7116 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 11:55:51 *	evoorhees is now known as Guest41215
Jan 27 11:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.1708275 = 0.5125 BTC [-]
Jan 27 11:56:53 *	Guest41215 is now known as evoorhees
Jan 27 11:57:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.2392789 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 11:57:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21107001 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:00:56 <thestringpuller>	hey smickles
Jan 27 12:00:59 <thestringpuller>	pm real quick?
Jan 27 12:03:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00065333 = 9.2446 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:03:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00065089 = 1.0089 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:04:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.17017824 = 0.5105 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:04:46 <mircea_popescu>	okay, this one beats all.
Jan 27 12:04:51 <thestringpuller>	?
Jan 27 12:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	someone sent me an email which literalyl reads "gpg --armor --output pubkey.txt -- export <their name>"
Jan 27 12:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.2392789 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:05:08 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Jan 27 12:05:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21107001 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... the people sending the key and then being shocked and appaled that yes there's a reg fee i get daily nowadays and am starting to get used to.
Jan 27 12:06:00 <mircea_popescu>	but this i confess is new.
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Jan 27 12:07:58 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 27 12:07:59 <gribble>	17.49
Jan 27 12:08:16 <evoorhees>	mircea - how many mpex account holders are there?
Jan 27 12:09:31 <smickles>	lol, mircea_popescu, what did that person think would happen?
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Jan 27 12:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.17044449 = 0.5113 BTC [+]
Jan 27 12:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.2392789 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 12:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	smickles yes.
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Jan 27 12:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees edging towards 1k paid.
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Jan 27 12:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9276 @ 0.00066436 = 6.1626 BTC [+]
Jan 27 12:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10434 @ 0.00066537 = 6.9425 BTC [+]
Jan 27 12:16:51 <evoorhees>	nice
Jan 27 12:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	gettin' there.
Jan 27 12:20:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.2392789 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:20:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.19310956 = 0.5793 BTC [+]
Jan 27 12:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21107001 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 12:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.17040888 = 0.5112 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.2392789 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 12:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21150956 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 12:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13966 @ 0.00066537 = 9.2926 BTC [+]
Jan 27 12:30:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6660 @ 0.00066743 = 4.4451 BTC [+]
Jan 27 12:30:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 639 @ 0.00066836 = 0.4271 BTC [+]
Jan 27 12:30:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11285 @ 0.00066858 = 7.5449 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 12:35:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.17036906 = 0.5111 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.23978863 BTC [+]
Jan 27 12:37:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00066858 = 5.4824 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 12:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00066858 = 4.6132 BTC [+]
Jan 27 12:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.17033275 = 0.511 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.23931001 = 0.7179 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:46:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.21104493 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 3 @ 0.1881489 = 0.5644 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 12:53:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.17029694 = 0.5109 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.23931001 = 0.7179 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 2 @ 0.20621262 = 0.4124 BTC [+]
Jan 27 12:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 3 @ 0.21104493 = 0.6331 BTC [-]
Jan 27 12:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 3 @ 0.1881489 = 0.5644 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 13:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.16995044 = 0.5099 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 13:03:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.23931001 = 0.7179 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 3 @ 0.20579993 = 0.6174 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:04:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 3 @ 0.21104493 = 0.6331 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 2 @ 0.24718085 = 0.4944 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 13:06:20 <smickles>	BUY ALL THE OPTIONS!
Jan 27 13:06:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 27 13:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.16991446 = 0.5097 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 13:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.23931001 = 0.7179 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:13:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 3 @ 0.20576257 = 0.6173 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	i don't get this tho, why get 3 on this tick and 3 on the next tick
Jan 27 13:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	wouldn't it make sense to just get 6 ?
Jan 27 13:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 3 @ 0.21104493 = 0.6331 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1 @ 0.2471424 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:14:49 <smickles>	the amount is calculated from a few inputs, it starts out  as max(int(((mpexbtc / range_) / 2) / SATOSHI), 1) and is lowered by some other variables
Jan 27 13:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	but leaving the code aside
Jan 27 13:15:57 <mircea_popescu>	what sense does the behaviour make ?
Jan 27 13:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	either its a good buy or it isn't.
Jan 27 13:16:27 <smickles>	so those other variables are limiting the amount, and as these options are bought the limiting factors are raised a little
Jan 27 13:16:57 <smickles>	and they're hard limits that I can't do much about right now
Jan 27 13:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	but listen. what has materially changed from a tick to the next to make another increment worth buying, when it wasn't before ?
Jan 27 13:18:36 <smickles>	heh, how much usd I know I have
Jan 27 13:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	just... from a very fundamental perspective it seems amiss.
Jan 27 13:19:10 <smickles>	but listen, the thing  isn't optimized, there's room for improvement in many areas and I know it
Jan 27 13:19:43 <smickles>	right now, it's easisist for me to take this 'one small step at a time' approach
Jan 27 13:19:50 <mircea_popescu>	that i can see.
Jan 27 13:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	im not saying it's evil or anything, just thowing 2cents.
Jan 27 13:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	i've never coded a bot myself.
Jan 27 13:21:37 <EskimoBob>	smickles: if you have time, let me know and if you do not mind, I have some simple accounting questions :)
Jan 27 13:21:38 <smickles>	oh don't get me wrong, it's a good 2 cents, and I knew it before you said it
Jan 27 13:21:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.1698747 = 0.5096 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:22:40 <smickles>	EskimoBob: I should be able to answer a simple accounting question :)
Jan 27 13:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.23931001 = 0.7179 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:23:17 <EskimoBob>	smickles: ever used gnucashe? Not that this is important
Jan 27 13:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 3 @ 0.2057213 = 0.6172 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:23:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.0006649 = 11.7022 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:24:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 2 @ 0.21104493 = 0.4221 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:24:15 <smickles>	EskimoBob: I haven't
Jan 27 13:24:36 <EskimoBob>	pm'ed
Jan 27 13:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 2 @ 0.24709992 = 0.4942 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:31:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 3 @ 0.16984047 = 0.5095 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.23931001 = 0.7179 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 13:32:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1 @ 0.20568576 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:39:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00065132 = 2.2145 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 13:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00065132 = 4.7872 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:43:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5523 @ 0.00065089 = 3.5949 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 370 @ 0.0006501 = 0.2405 BTC [-]
Jan 27 13:43:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10257 @ 0.00065009 = 6.668 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 13:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00065445 = 15.3796 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 14:14:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:14:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 15 @ 0.3 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:14:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 14:26:03 <Uglux>	;;ticker
Jan 27 14:26:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.75003, Best ask: 17.83999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08996, Last trade: 17.84000, 24 hour volume: 33115.50277359, 24 hour low: 17.00500, 24 hour high: 17.99999, 24 hour vwap: 17.55936
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Jan 27 14:27:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.028 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:27:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.0264 = 0.2904 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:27:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0263 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:27:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 85 @ 0.0261 = 2.2185 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:27:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0255 = 0.051 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:35:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6873 @ 0.00065445 = 4.498 BTC [+]
Jan 27 14:36:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 97 @ 0.0097 = 0.9409 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:36:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.0097 = 0.97 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:36:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.0096 = 0.096 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:36:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 250 @ 0.0096 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:36:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0096 = 0.0192 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:36:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0096 = 0.0192 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:36:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0096 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:36:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.0095 = 0.0285 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:36:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 120 @ 0.0094 = 1.128 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:36:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0094 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:36:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 414 @ 0.0093 = 3.8502 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:37:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:37:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.0625 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.799 = 7.99 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15545 @ 0.00065524 = 10.1857 BTC [+]
Jan 27 14:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00066217 = 14.5677 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 14:52:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150 @ 0.0006658 = 0.0999 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 14:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.16892818 BTC [-]
Jan 27 14:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 1 @ 0.23961536 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 15:05:17 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you still around?
Jan 27 15:05:19 <thestringpuller>	or you off coding
Jan 27 15:05:25 <smickles>	both
Jan 27 15:05:27 <TomServo>	 /color
Jan 27 15:05:31 <TomServo>	oops
Jan 27 15:06:00 <smickles>	i haz hi resolution monitor now
Jan 27 15:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4982 @ 0.00065524 = 3.2644 BTC [-]
Jan 27 15:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00065417 = 1.1775 BTC [-]
Jan 27 15:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2318 @ 0.00065009 = 1.5069 BTC [-]
Jan 27 15:19:22 <thestringpuller>	I should have been shorting mpoe oh well
Jan 27 15:19:25 <thestringpuller>	next dividends day
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Jan 27 15:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006501 = 6.501 BTC [+]
Jan 27 15:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 541 @ 0.00065009 = 0.3517 BTC [-]
Jan 27 15:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3533 @ 0.00064929 = 2.2939 BTC [-]
Jan 27 15:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12326 @ 0.00064762 = 7.9826 BTC [-]
Jan 27 15:34:43 <mod6>	thestringpuller: what up. got a ton of work done... just wrapping up the tail end of it here.
Jan 27 15:40:21 <thestringpuller>	mod6: I'm making icons for a class
Jan 27 15:40:27 <thestringpuller>	i wish I had got a ton of work done
Jan 27 15:45:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00064763 = 12.6935 BTC [+]
Jan 27 15:47:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00064763 = 0.2591 BTC [+]
Jan 27 15:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3174 @ 0.00064762 = 2.0555 BTC [-]
Jan 27 15:47:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8826 @ 0.00064644 = 5.7055 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 15:49:20 <mod6>	i've been just swamped for the last two months
Jan 27 15:49:40 <mod6>	finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel on this infrastructure project
Jan 27 15:51:27 <thestringpuller>	just get puppet labs to do it for you
Jan 27 15:51:29 <thestringpuller>	boom done
Jan 27 15:51:32 <thestringpuller>	on to da next
Jan 27 16:01:40 <mod6>	heheh. i wish.
Jan 27 16:12:18 <jurov>	so, back home
Jan 27 16:12:49 <jurov>	had to return cause of some ssh problem to be investigated yet
Jan 27 16:13:26 <jurov>	but the video with hash porn had the intended effect. mpoe-pr screenshot too :D
Jan 27 16:16:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16508 @ 0.00065347 = 10.7875 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:17:26 <thestringpuller>	jurov: what?
Jan 27 16:17:30 <thestringpuller>	hash porn?
Jan 27 16:18:02 <jurov>	i did desktop capture how to communicate with mpex using gpg only
Jan 27 16:19:21 <jurov>	manually copying gpg output to browser and back
Jan 27 16:19:52 <thestringpuller>	mpoe-pr screenshot?
Jan 27 16:19:53 <jurov>	i'd put it to youtube, but better black the name/keyid out
Jan 27 16:19:56 <thestringpuller>	i'm so confused...
Jan 27 16:20:25 <jurov>	i was searching her scariest post on the forums
Jan 27 16:20:44 <jurov>	made screenshot of it and put it to presentation
Jan 27 16:21:59 <jurov>	here: https://www.progressbar.sk/calendar/unsystem-bitcoin-conference-preview-2013
Jan 27 16:22:20 <jurov>	seems there will be a recording later
Jan 27 16:22:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 400 @ 0.0097 = 3.88 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1348 @ 0.00065347 = 0.8809 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:23:33 <thestringpuller>	Juraj Variny
Jan 27 16:23:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00065717 = 10.1861 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:23:34 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 27 16:23:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4002 @ 0.00066028 = 2.6424 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:27:51 <jurov>	hope they put Frank Braun's presentation online, quite a gem
Jan 27 16:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30 @ 0.00064646 = 0.0194 BTC [-]
Jan 27 16:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00064645 = 0.0646 BTC [-]
Jan 27 16:28:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 674 @ 0.00064644 = 0.4357 BTC [-]
Jan 27 16:28:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.000646 = 2.7132 BTC [-]
Jan 27 16:28:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064595 = 6.4595 BTC [-]
Jan 27 16:28:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1096 @ 0.00064556 = 0.7075 BTC [-]
Jan 27 16:29:05 <jurov>	"Stay together with people with similar beliefs. But discuss people with other" and such life advice
Jan 27 16:29:31 <jurov>	i did not understood the speech, tho
Jan 27 16:30:51 <kakobrekla>	o o
Jan 27 16:30:53 <thestringpuller>	speaking of gems
Jan 27 16:30:55 <kakobrekla>	taki was the organizer
Jan 27 16:30:57 <thestringpuller>	i want the bitcoin gem
Jan 27 16:31:00 <kakobrekla>	taaki
Jan 27 16:31:09 <kakobrekla>	unbelivable :)
Jan 27 16:31:28 <kakobrekla>	>Amir Taaki (Bitcoin developer, Bitcoin conference organizer)
Jan 27 16:31:36 <kakobrekla>	or is this just a general description
Jan 27 16:31:41 <kakobrekla>	not _the_ organizer
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Jan 27 16:31:54 <jurov>	yes, the organizer
Jan 27 16:34:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14604 @ 0.00064556 = 9.4278 BTC [-]
Jan 27 16:34:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10696 @ 0.00064555 = 6.9048 BTC [-]
Jan 27 16:35:14 <jurov>	funniest moment was, inbetween all the gun printing and similar anarchy stuff, slush came and asked me why mircea intends to stay clear to any govt
Jan 27 16:35:39 <jurov>	*stay clear off any govt
Jan 27 16:36:08 <jurov>	"we are trying to make bitcoin mainstream and he does that"
Jan 27 16:36:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5941 @ 0.00064686 = 3.843 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:36:52 <kakobrekla>	i could hardly belive there was any anarchy stuff since the event is on facebook
Jan 27 16:36:56 <thestringpuller>	mircea will have to answer to some government at some point
Jan 27 16:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.007429 = 0.0743 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5391 @ 0.00742893 = 40.0494 BTC [-]
Jan 27 16:40:12 <jurov>	i don't fully understand it how can these two groups "let's make bitcoin recognized" and occupyists work so well together
Jan 27 16:41:05 <kakobrekla>	do they work together?
Jan 27 16:41:32 <jurov>	occupyists contribute to btcmag, for example
Jan 27 16:42:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0072 = 0.036 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:42:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0073 = 0.146 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:42:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0073 = 3.65 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:42:36 <kakobrekla>	cause they wanna occupy
Jan 27 16:42:39 <jurov>	when i'll be rich, i'll hire myself subtitling service to such event, maybe then i can start to understand something.. or get confused some more :D
Jan 27 16:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9647 @ 0.00064686 = 6.2403 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:44:13 <thestringpuller>	jurov: in the far future when mpex has significant volume in comparison to say the NYSE or TSE or something, won't governments foreign to romania put pressure on the romanian government to regulate him, or at that point will he be the romanian government?
Jan 27 16:45:23 <jurov>	oh, he already did something in romanian politics, i believe he can manage
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Jan 27 16:46:19 <thestringpuller>	sounds like he'll be the shield for a lot of people wanting to stay in the "gray area"
Jan 27 16:46:28 <jurov>	and the general expectation is, entities who would be interested in doing that, would have much more serious problem elsewhere
Jan 27 16:46:35 <jurov>	by that time
Jan 27 16:46:51 <jurov>	like, keeping dollar from hyperinflating type stuff
Jan 27 16:47:38 <jurov>	maybe they will blame the hyperinflation to btc, but that won't help them
Jan 27 16:48:19 <thestringpuller>	I guess you could never embargo BTC as the network can perpetuate even off the planet (say in the future we have servers in space that have low latency), but you could definitely do what the US did to Iran
Jan 27 16:48:26 <thestringpuller>	make it illegal to transfer BTC into fiat and vice versa
Jan 27 16:50:13 <jurov>	bah. they'll be perhaps as successful as riaa with illegal filesharing
Jan 27 16:50:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 420 @ 0.0099 = 4.158 BTC [+]
Jan 27 16:52:40 <kakobrekla>	comming soon to a browser near you
Jan 27 16:52:41 <kakobrekla>	http://www.facebook.com/BitMillions
Jan 27 16:52:51 <kakobrekla>	neverending.
Jan 27 16:53:38 <kakobrekla>	no idea who is behind it
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Jan 27 17:24:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0095 = 0.019 BTC [-]
Jan 27 17:25:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 17:36:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1188 @ 0.00737998 = 8.7674 BTC [-]
Jan 27 17:36:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 912 @ 0.00722786 = 6.5918 BTC [-]
Jan 27 17:42:25 <jurov>	lol what a blast from the past: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138769.msg1483319#msg1483319
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Jan 27 17:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7904 @ 0.00064555 = 5.1024 BTC [-]
Jan 27 17:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00064519 = 5.226 BTC [-]
Jan 27 17:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4232 @ 0.00064514 = 2.7302 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 18:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00724914 = 10.5113 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 18:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00724914 = 5.7993 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:12:14 <jurov>	decided to play with fire - cheap X.IDIFF.MAR available!
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Jan 27 18:18:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 299 @ 0.00741287 = 2.2164 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:18:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 80001 @ 0.00745 = 596.0075 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:19:22 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 27 18:19:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.80206, Best ask: 17.91290, Bid-ask spread: 0.11084, Last trade: 17.80206, 24 hour volume: 28228.93005355, 24 hour low: 17.21000, 24 hour high: 17.99999, 24 hour vwap: 17.65198
Jan 27 18:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00745 = 0.0224 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:19:42 <jurov>	back at 18
Jan 27 18:20:41 <thestringpuller>	S.DICE will be super primed for shorting on dividends day
Jan 27 18:20:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4627 @ 0.00064686 = 2.993 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4775 @ 0.00064847 = 3.0964 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00065053 = 10.4085 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2648 @ 0.00065343 = 1.7303 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.8 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:24:11 <Bugpowder>	I think its going to hit 0.0095 before dividend
Jan 27 18:24:25 <Bugpowder>	maybe .01
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Jan 27 18:25:34 <jurov>	;;calc 960279*0.0075
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Jan 27 18:25:35 <gribble>	7202.0925
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Jan 27 18:25:46 <jurov>	only if another 7k whale comes
Jan 27 18:25:54 <jurov>	^Bugpowder
Jan 27 18:26:27 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 21000 /  .0075  /100000000
Jan 27 18:26:28 <gribble>	0.028
Jan 27 18:26:43 <Bugpowder>	looking at a 2.8% yield currently
Jan 27 18:27:50 <Bugpowder>	21000 / .02 /100000000
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Jan 27 18:28:02 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 21000 / .02 / 100000000
Jan 27 18:28:02 <gribble>	0.0105
Jan 27 18:28:11 <Bugpowder>	That's the price
Jan 27 18:28:25 <Bugpowder>	it will be hard to get through .01 though
Jan 27 18:28:56 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller  S.DICE did not drop AT ALL following the last dividend.
Jan 27 18:29:32 <Bugpowder>	I was suprised
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Jan 27 18:44:18 <jurov>	why do the x.idiff futures feature that "1000% change in 2 months" scare?
Jan 27 18:44:37 <jurov>	that did not happen since 5/2011
Jan 27 18:45:06 <jurov>	i'd market make them.. if i could use s.mpoe as collateral :P
Jan 27 18:46:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.0075 = 0.45 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10975 @ 0.00065224 = 7.1583 BTC [-]
Jan 27 18:47:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.0099 = 0.0594 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:47:33 <jurov>	or maybe i'll fundraise via mpoe-like bonds
Jan 27 18:49:11 <thestringpuller>	mpoe-style bonds are a good fundraising technique
Jan 27 18:49:20 <thestringpuller>	I dunno how MP got investors so fast
Jan 27 18:49:31 <thestringpuller>	i think he used a lot of his own money at first though non?
Jan 27 18:49:35 <jurov>	Ukto, what do you think? Additional exclusive novelty for bitfunder? :D
Jan 27 18:52:53 <Bugpowder>	I have been considering funding my own bot that way
Jan 27 18:52:58 <Bugpowder>	1% over MPBOR
Jan 27 18:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00749999 = 3.75 BTC [+]
Jan 27 18:53:54 <Bugpowder>	the collatoral requirements make it really tough to market make in the options market without 10,000BTC minimum
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Jan 27 18:54:36 <Ukto>	?
Jan 27 18:54:41 <Ukto>	i guess i need to read up
Jan 27 18:54:44 <Ukto>	on the phone atm
Jan 27 18:54:57 <jurov>	^^ just some 20 lines
Jan 27 18:59:47 <jurov>	anyway, first there should be interest. i'll see whether these few i just made sell at all
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Jan 27 19:19:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9025 @ 0.00064789 = 5.8472 BTC [-]
Jan 27 19:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25083 @ 0.00065284 = 16.3752 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 19:27:21 <Bowjob>	the whales appear to lower their bets to 250 ea now
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Jan 27 19:57:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00065284 = 5.6797 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 20:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6271 @ 0.00065284 = 4.094 BTC [+]
Jan 27 20:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13829 @ 0.0006529 = 9.029 BTC [+]
Jan 27 20:11:55 <smickles>	http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/29049932.jpg
Jan 27 20:11:56 <Bugpowder>	when do the mtgox wires go 'online'
Jan 27 20:15:48 <jurov>	mtgox uses avian carriers
Jan 27 20:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20427 @ 0.00064514 = 13.1783 BTC [-]
Jan 27 20:18:09 <thestringpuller>	why does silk road make so much money
Jan 27 20:18:24 <thestringpuller>	is the black market really much more capitalized than the legit markets?
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Jan 27 20:23:33 <Bugpowder>	legit markets?
Jan 27 20:23:53 <Bugpowder>	last I check legit businesses in legit markets make shitloads of money
Jan 27 20:23:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0089 BTC [+]
Jan 27 20:25:17 <Bugpowder>	According to its 10-K filed October 31, 2012, Apple had $121.251 billion of ‘cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities’ at the end of fiscal year 2012, up from $81.570 billion one year prior and $51.011 billion at the end of fiscal year 2010.  Read more at http://macdailynews.com/2012/11/16/use-apples-cash-to-your-advantage/#mjSVYPAYFz1duW76.99
Jan 27 20:26:15 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: do you know the story of pablo escobar?
Jan 27 20:26:20 <thestringpuller>	the illegal billionaire?
Jan 27 20:26:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13821 @ 0.0006529 = 9.0237 BTC [+]
Jan 27 20:26:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1479 @ 0.00065343 = 0.9664 BTC [+]
Jan 27 20:26:37 <thestringpuller>	he was worht some 30 billion
Jan 27 20:27:37 <thestringpuller>	that's him alone, his "company" probably held 100's of billions in some kind of equity (however you'd like to measure it)
Jan 27 20:28:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9888 @ 0.00065343 = 6.4611 BTC [+]
Jan 27 20:28:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11112 @ 0.0006535 = 7.2617 BTC [+]
Jan 27 20:29:46 <smickles>	thestringpuller: if coke were legal at the time, I'd wager he'd have more money
Jan 27 20:30:22 <thestringpuller>	smickles: that's just one example though, i guess my point was that illicit/black markets have more capitalization than legit markets
Jan 27 20:30:51 <thestringpuller>	it's unethical most of the times...but pablo escobar was worth much more than Jobs
Jan 27 20:33:13 <jurov>	maybe it's also about how the revenue is distributed
Jan 27 20:33:41 <jurov>	legit business has to pay more wages to employees and taxes
Jan 27 20:37:51 <kakobrekla>	All bets:
Jan 27 20:37:51 <kakobrekla>	2,500.07715500 BTC (856 bets)
Jan 27 20:37:52 <kakobrekla>	yay
Jan 27 20:37:59 <jurov>	hi kako
Jan 27 20:38:05 <kakobrekla>	hi
Jan 27 20:38:08 <jurov>	how do i find my bets?
Jan 27 20:38:17 <jurov>	i lost orientation a bit
Jan 27 20:38:20 <kakobrekla>	use your address
Jan 27 20:38:44 <jurov>	lol... i don't remember which one bitcoind used
Jan 27 20:38:46 <thestringpuller>	how the fuck did square-enix manage to purchase eidos
Jan 27 20:38:48 <thestringpuller>	like holy shit
Jan 27 20:39:01 <kakobrekla>	well that might be a problem
Jan 27 20:39:28 <jurov>	did you see that octopus thing yest?
Jan 27 20:39:47 <jurov>	they scanned blockchain and determined which addresses belong to one wallet
Jan 27 20:40:04 <kakobrekla>	url?
Jan 27 20:40:10 <jurov>	mmnt
Jan 27 20:40:33 <jurov>	http://blockviewer.com/#1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
Jan 27 20:41:20 <kakobrekla>	not bad
Jan 27 20:41:42 <thestringpuller>	.jpg
Jan 27 20:41:57 <kakobrekla>	.png
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Jan 27 20:43:49 <jurov>	till it is solved perhaps i should start using unique bitdust
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Jan 27 20:44:17 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 27 20:44:20 <kakobrekla>	i dont care really
Jan 27 20:44:36 <kakobrekla>	ill just mix it up if the issue comes
Jan 27 20:44:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4127 @ 0.0006535 = 2.697 BTC [+]
Jan 27 20:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10173 @ 0.00065415 = 6.6547 BTC [+]
Jan 27 20:45:19 <jurov>	lol and it said after getting 3 addresses that i'm too fast
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Jan 27 20:45:34 <kakobrekla>	:D
Jan 27 20:45:38 <jurov>	i use sendmany to bet serially
Jan 27 20:45:43 <kakobrekla>	its 3 per 60 sec
Jan 27 20:45:59 <kakobrekla>	i got attacked so i had to add this
Jan 27 20:46:43 <jurov>	yep, i waited and it was ok
Jan 27 20:46:58 <jurov>	lol who came with this: http://bitbet.us/bet/134/civil-war-in-the-usa-in-2013/
Jan 27 20:47:02 <jurov>	i bet yes
Jan 27 20:47:19 <kakobrekla>	heh no idea who posts new proposals
Jan 27 20:47:27 <kakobrekla>	i only made 3 or so at the begining
Jan 27 20:47:37 <kakobrekla>	the famouse bfl one is mine ;>
Jan 27 20:47:47 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller Aramco is worth $10 trillion.
Jan 27 20:49:12 <kakobrekla>	House bets won:
Jan 27 20:49:12 <kakobrekla>	2.19244267 BTC (22)
Jan 27 20:49:12 <kakobrekla>	House bets lost:
Jan 27 20:49:12 <kakobrekla>	1.45000000 BTC (25)
Jan 27 20:49:21 <kakobrekla>	hehe this shit is even positive
Jan 27 20:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.00113901 = 5.6951 BTC [+]
Jan 27 20:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.001139 = 2.278 BTC [-]
Jan 27 20:52:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 775 @ 0.00726216 = 5.6282 BTC [-]
Jan 27 20:56:13 <thestringpuller>	go go square
Jan 27 20:58:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 21:13:24 <jurov>	kakobrekla, when do you pay divs?
Jan 27 21:13:35 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Jan 27 21:13:37 <kakobrekla>	any time now
Jan 27 21:13:51 <kakobrekla>	im doing the accounting module now
Jan 27 21:14:01 <jurov>	:)
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Jan 27 21:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 841 @ 0.00064514 = 0.5426 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00064489 = 2.902 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064425 = 5.8627 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8359 @ 0.00064383 = 5.3818 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 21:24:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 299 @ 0.0074 = 2.2126 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17190 @ 0.00064383 = 11.0674 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:37:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00064383 = 11.5567 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12620 @ 0.00064383 = 8.1251 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:40:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11330 @ 0.00064127 = 7.2656 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 21:42:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6770 @ 0.00064127 = 4.3414 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00064112 = 5.3534 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6580 @ 0.00064 = 4.2112 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00065185 = 5.1496 BTC [+]
Jan 27 21:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3181 @ 0.00065352 = 2.0788 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 21:46:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3919 @ 0.00065352 = 2.5611 BTC [+]
Jan 27 21:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13681 @ 0.00065415 = 8.9494 BTC [+]
Jan 27 21:48:43 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 27 21:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064 / 0.000659 / 0.0006921 (1970434 shares, 1,298.52 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.0006559 / 0.0007 (24912211 shares, 16,340.04 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.0006536 / 0.0007 (53462592 shares, 34,943.15 BTC)
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Jan 27 21:48:47 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 27 21:48:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.001139 / 0.00114409 / 0.0014 (25611 shares, 29.30 BTC), 7D: 0.00100006 / 0.00111184 / 0.0014 (49471 shares, 55.00 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00079022 / 0.0035 (2307283 shares, 1,823.28 BTC)
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Jan 27 21:53:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:53:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:53:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2802 BTC [-]
Jan 27 21:53:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2801 = 1.4005 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 22:00:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 73 @ 0.0099 = 0.7227 BTC [+]
Jan 27 22:00:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 430 @ 0.0099 = 4.257 BTC [+]
Jan 27 22:00:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.0099 = 0.099 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 22:02:43 <smickles>	;;tslb
Jan 27 22:02:51 <gribble>	Time since last block: 7 minutes and 54 seconds
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Jan 27 22:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5073 @ 0.000651 = 3.3025 BTC [-]
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Jan 27 22:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
Jan 27 22:09:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.8 = 5.6 BTC [+]
Jan 27 22:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.81 BTC [+]
Jan 27 22:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00726569 = 2.1797 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 22:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2846 @ 0.00065415 = 1.8617 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 22:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00065638 = 5.6777 BTC [+]
Jan 27 22:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00065697 = 0.9198 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 23:26:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3188 @ 0.00065697 = 2.0944 BTC [+]
Jan 27 23:26:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12762 @ 0.00065823 = 8.4003 BTC [+]
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Jan 27 23:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17204 @ 0.00065627 = 11.2905 BTC [-]
Jan 27 23:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11956 @ 0.000651 = 7.7834 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 00:09:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00064714 = 14.7548 BTC [-]
Jan 28 00:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00064 = 1.248 BTC [-]
Jan 28 00:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00064 = 15.808 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 00:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7770 @ 0.00064 = 4.9728 BTC [-]
Jan 28 00:30:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00063948 = 12.246 BTC [-]
Jan 28 00:30:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13080 @ 0.00063915 = 8.3601 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 00:44:47 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone is looking for an economic/political debate --> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/of-skimmed-milk-and-skimming-the-milk/
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Jan 28 00:50:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00065009 = 15.1146 BTC [+]
Jan 28 00:53:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 13 @ 0.13 = 1.69 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 01:02:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00726989 = 2.181 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 01:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13324 @ 0.00065009 = 8.6618 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 01:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00063915 = 3.7071 BTC [-]
Jan 28 01:16:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3399 = 3.399 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 01:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30129 @ 0.0006443 = 19.4121 BTC [+]
Jan 28 01:26:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3421 @ 0.00063915 = 2.1865 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 02:25:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1632 @ 0.00726989 = 11.8645 BTC [+]
Jan 28 02:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4408 @ 0.00064847 = 2.8585 BTC [+]
Jan 28 02:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 292 @ 0.00063932 = 0.1867 BTC [-]
Jan 28 02:32:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17851 @ 0.00063932 = 11.4125 BTC [-]
Jan 28 02:34:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 17 @ 0.3399 = 5.7783 BTC [-]
Jan 28 02:34:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+]
Jan 28 02:34:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10866 @ 0.00065009 = 7.0639 BTC [+]
Jan 28 02:34:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1534 @ 0.00065787 = 1.0092 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 02:42:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8807 @ 0.00063932 = 5.6305 BTC [-]
Jan 28 02:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1393 @ 0.00063915 = 0.8903 BTC [-]
Jan 28 02:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1207 @ 0.00728138 = 8.7886 BTC [+]
Jan 28 02:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00063915 = 8.0533 BTC [-]
Jan 28 02:52:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19366 @ 0.00065787 = 12.7403 BTC [+]
Jan 28 02:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00065822 = 12.5062 BTC [+]
Jan 28 02:52:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1834 @ 0.00065823 = 1.2072 BTC [+]
Jan 28 02:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 28 02:55:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.92002, Best ask: 17.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last trade: 17.92001, 24 hour volume: 24197.67894909, 24 hour low: 17.21000, 24 hour high: 18.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.77575
Jan 28 02:59:33 <smickles>	ah finally, proper accounting for soebot
Jan 28 03:00:01 <smickles>	i have income statements, balance sheets, cash flow, equity, the works
Jan 28 03:00:02 <smickles>	:D
Jan 28 03:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	wd!
Jan 28 03:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	you gonna publish it ?
Jan 28 03:02:43 <smickles>	hmm, hadn't considered it yet
Jan 28 03:03:09 <mircea_popescu>	prolly a good thing for teh community
Jan 28 03:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	have some examples. i bet you 90% of the people who are or are considering issuing "an asset" have never seen a set of gaap statements
Jan 28 03:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	and since pretty much everyone is a 20something male geek, they learn by example rather than by description.
Jan 28 03:04:11 <error4733>	Goooood morning Coinland
Jan 28 03:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	hi.
Jan 28 03:04:17 <error4733>	http://i.qkme.me/3sr4r6.jpg
Jan 28 03:04:20 <smickles>	heh, i used gnucash for this. it makes proper gaap statements as far as i can tell
Jan 28 03:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	did they eventually resolve the debate of what btc should be called ?
Jan 28 03:04:57 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 tenses are fuct.
Jan 28 03:05:02 <smickles>	i don't think so, i had to use XXX
Jan 28 03:05:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 28 03:05:37 <mircea_popescu>	pr0nmoniz ?
Jan 28 03:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135936043190.gif
Jan 28 03:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	when they crash she learns to deepthroat.
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Jan 28 03:11:56 <Anduck>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 28 03:11:56 <assbot>	Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
Jan 28 03:12:00 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Jan 28 03:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00722182 / 0.007425 / 0.00749999 (112051 shares, 831.98 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00522291 / 0.0075 (1190995 shares, 6,220.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00427442 / 0.0075 (10554315 shares, 45,113.65 BTC)
Jan 28 03:12:03 <Anduck>	fu assbot u know what i meant
Jan 28 03:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly.
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Jan 28 03:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00064792 = 9.6216 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 03:18:30 <Andck>	hmmm
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Jan 28 03:28:47 <azx>	good evening
Jan 28 03:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	hi
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Jan 28 03:43:14 <assbot>	the ass is dead, long live the ass!
Jan 28 03:45:53 <assbot>	kakobrekla: https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/5/5d/Hello.jpg
Jan 28 03:47:58 <SomeoneWeird>	-_-
Jan 28 03:48:09 <SomeoneWeird>	dntclicktht
Jan 28 03:49:32 <Bowjob>	goatse
Jan 28 03:54:04 <azx>	lol,  I almost clicked that link
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Jan 28 06:53:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1907 @ 0.0073551 = 14.0262 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00745535 = 3.3549 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 17643 @ 0.00749999 = 132.3223 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20453 @ 0.00063915 = 13.0725 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7147 @ 0.00063885 = 4.5659 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1423 @ 0.00737302 = 10.4918 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00064313 = 5.1129 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00064313 = 2.7976 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8893 @ 0.0006401 = 5.6924 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14853 @ 0.00063885 = 9.4888 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13804 @ 0.00063857 = 8.8148 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8096 @ 0.00063857 = 5.1699 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23317 @ 0.00063839 = 14.8853 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00749999 = 13.5 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00064427 = 9.5674 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00064427 = 2.7059 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00065228 = 5.2182 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6283 @ 0.00063839 = 4.011 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1767 @ 0.00063831 = 1.1279 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12526 @ 0.00065254 = 8.1737 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4074 @ 0.00065823 = 2.6816 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18109 @ 0.00064378 = 11.6582 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1091 @ 0.00065823 = 0.7181 BTC [+]
Jan 28 06:53:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14283 @ 0.00063831 = 9.117 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 680 @ 0.00063725 = 0.4333 BTC [-]
Jan 28 06:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21466 @ 0.00065182 = 13.992 BTC [+]
Jan 28 07:03:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [+]
Jan 28 07:04:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
Jan 28 07:07:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
Jan 28 07:07:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 20 @ 0.7003 = 14.006 BTC [-]
Jan 28 07:07:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 20 @ 0.7002 = 14.004 BTC [-]
Jan 28 07:07:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 9 @ 0.7 = 6.3 BTC [-]
Jan 28 07:12:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6139 @ 0.00065823 = 4.0409 BTC [+]
Jan 28 07:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2911 @ 0.00065999 = 1.9212 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 07:20:45 <jurov>	"As we move forward into a world ever-filling with computers and networks, the success of Bitcoin, much like the Internet itself, liset in the actions of the people who will continue to use it and promote it and to fight on its behalf in doing so. They may take our lives, but they can never take our Bitcoin."
Jan 28 07:21:08 <jurov>	^^ bitcoin tabloid #6, page 57
Jan 28 07:21:13 <jurov>	got for free yest
Jan 28 07:21:49 *	jurov is ready to die for Bitcoinssses
Jan 28 07:31:08 <jurov>	lmao yes mikhail alisie boasted they put it on the table next to cosmopolitan and circlejerk ensued "yeah, it feels similar"
Jan 28 07:31:37 <jurov>	so i'm leafing in it and encountered this: http://live.coinbr.com/images/bfl.jpg
Jan 28 07:31:57 <jurov>	had to scan it in. definitely cosmopolitan material
Jan 28 07:32:37 <thestringpuller>	jurov: are you russian?
Jan 28 07:32:53 <jurov>	no, slovak
Jan 28 07:33:07 <jurov>	why?
Jan 28 07:33:14 <jurov>	i misspelled his name?
Jan 28 07:34:19 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 28 07:34:25 <kakobrekla>	where is that pic from jurov
Jan 28 07:34:45 <kakobrekla>	ah
Jan 28 07:34:51 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin tabloid #6, page 57?
Jan 28 07:34:54 <kakobrekla>	i guess.
Jan 28 07:35:04 <jurov>	you want *that* drivel scanned?
Jan 28 07:35:23 <jurov>	but it's like 3 pages :/
Jan 28 07:35:30 <kakobrekla>	its ok.
Jan 28 07:35:39 <kakobrekla>	ill manage without :)
Jan 28 07:35:42 <kakobrekla>	ty
Jan 28 07:36:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0074 BTC [-]
Jan 28 07:39:50 <jurov>	nuff fun. back to work.
Jan 28 07:47:12 <kakobrekla>	man
Jan 28 07:47:21 <kakobrekla>	been importing blockchain to postgres
Jan 28 07:47:30 <kakobrekla>	its taking over a week
Jan 28 07:47:33 <kakobrekla>	and still not done
Jan 28 07:47:42 <kakobrekla>	impossibru
Jan 28 07:49:47 <kakobrekla>	would be funny if i couldnt catch up to it.
Jan 28 07:57:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 08:02:11 <jurov>	uh, postgres? i like it, but i'd rather use that opportunity to dive into knuth and other less known data structures
Jan 28 08:02:29 <jurov>	or just use files on reiser4 :D
Jan 28 08:04:28 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 28 08:09:18 <pigeons>	https://github.com/billstclair/fsdb
Jan 28 08:11:35 <jurov>	but i'm serious with the reiser4 . i heard some were using it to store deserialized xml, myself was taken aback how fast it accesses gentoo portage compared to anything else
Jan 28 08:12:00 <jurov>	so sad reiser was such a maniac otherwise
Jan 28 08:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1419 @ 0.00065999 = 0.9365 BTC [+]
Jan 28 08:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1781 @ 0.00066028 = 1.176 BTC [+]
Jan 28 08:25:32 <Bugpowder>	gem is about to hit 100BTC http://www.bitcoingem.com
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Jan 28 08:28:20 <DeadWeasel>	 never knew that existed.  is there a history for price and number of purchases?
Jan 28 08:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00065746 = 5.95 BTC [-]
Jan 28 08:28:44 <DeadWeasel>	found it
Jan 28 08:30:09 <DeadWeasel>	what an odd idea. never know when the next buyer is going to arrive though.
Jan 28 08:31:03 <jurov>	they heard mircea wondering what to do of these 7kbtc he suddenly got on thursday
Jan 28 08:31:21 <jurov>	*with these
Jan 28 08:31:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0099 = 0.0198 BTC [+]
Jan 28 08:35:31 <Bugpowder>	you know when its gonna arrive
Jan 28 08:35:35 <Bugpowder>	IMMEDIATELY
Jan 28 08:35:53 <Bugpowder>	its very difficult to get your bid in before someone else bids.
Jan 28 08:36:00 <Bugpowder>	at this point
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Jan 28 08:39:04 <azx>	jurov: reiser4 is super when you have loads of tiny files in huge piles
Jan 28 08:40:36 <jurov>	azx, i know. and many storage problems can be implemented in that way.
Jan 28 08:40:50 <kakobreklaaa>	fuckin ass.
Jan 28 08:41:02 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 28 08:41:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.12000, Best ask: 18.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.13000, Last trade: 18.25000, 24 hour volume: 31140.10147696, 24 hour low: 17.45000, 24 hour high: 18.25000, 24 hour vwap: 17.92591
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Jan 28 08:49:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00066029 = 4.2919 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 09:18:43 <thestringpuller>	kakobreklaaa: wtf postgres?
Jan 28 09:20:38 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Jan 28 09:20:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00722786 / 0.00744254 / 0.00749999 (122574 shares, 912.26 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00526603 / 0.0075 (1205508 shares, 6,348.25 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.0042815 / 0.0075 (10577036 shares, 45,285.60 BTC)
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Jan 28 09:24:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2267 @ 0.00066029 = 1.4969 BTC [+]
Jan 28 09:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00066127 = 5.3232 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 09:32:33 <kakobrekla>	http://bou.si/4c/1353994707219.jpg
Jan 28 09:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00066411 = 11.5887 BTC [+]
Jan 28 09:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.000665 = 1.0973 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 09:45:45 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/2m/GT/f3aqrFT/terry-richardson-cow-wom.jpg
Jan 28 09:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00743189 = 4.0875 BTC [-]
Jan 28 09:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4450 @ 0.00745017 = 33.1533 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 09:47:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.8 = 40 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 09:51:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.0006627 = 17.926 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 10:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6158 @ 0.000665 = 4.0951 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 10:16:21 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 28 10:16:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.79900000 / 0.8 / 0.81000000 (69 shares, 55.20000000 BTC), 7D: 0.44000000 / 0.60774289 / 0.81000000 (1369 shares, 832.00001806 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.49998681 / 0.81000000 (5268 shares, 2633.93051794 BTC)
Jan 28 10:21:40 <pigeons>	this seems odd http://bitbet.us/bet/99/mpex-s-dice-price-ranges-0-00445-0-00495/
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Jan 28 10:32:09 <thestringpuller>	yea why is it not closed
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Jan 28 10:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00745016 = 14.9003 BTC [-]
Jan 28 10:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00745017 = 3.7251 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 10:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2393 @ 0.00066355 = 1.5879 BTC [-]
Jan 28 11:01:03 <kakobrekla>	why would it be closed?
Jan 28 11:01:18 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 28 11:01:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00722786 / 0.00744277 / 0.00749999 (127674 shares, 950.25 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00527973 / 0.0075 (1204612 shares, 6,360.04 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00428374 / 0.0075 (10584536 shares, 45,341.47 BTC)
Jan 28 11:01:43 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Jan 28 11:02:04 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Jan 28 11:02:05 <kakobrekla>	silly.
Jan 28 11:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57 @ 0.00066355 = 0.0378 BTC [-]
Jan 28 11:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4775 @ 0.0006627 = 3.1644 BTC [-]
Jan 28 11:10:41 <thestringpuller>	when is dividends day for s.dice?
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Jan 28 11:15:07 <Korbman>	;;ticker
Jan 28 11:15:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.22130, Best ask: 18.22401, Bid-ask spread: 0.00271, Last trade: 18.22130, 24 hour volume: 32164.29648754, 24 hour low: 17.60000, 24 hour high: 18.25000, 24 hour vwap: 17.99353
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Jan 28 11:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 280 @ 0.0015 = 0.42 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 11:34:31 <kakobrekla>	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-28/bitcoin-s-gains-may-fuel-central-bank-concerns-chart-of-the-day.html
Jan 28 11:36:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00066025 = 6.7676 BTC [-]
Jan 28 11:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24566 @ 0.00065746 = 16.1512 BTC [-]
Jan 28 11:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31568 @ 0.00065746 = 20.7547 BTC [-]
Jan 28 11:37:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2232 @ 0.00065236 = 1.4561 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 11:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00065236 = 6.4257 BTC [-]
Jan 28 11:55:40 <Korbman>	kakobrekla: that article is a bit disconcerning
Jan 28 11:56:08 <Korbman>	I'd like to think Bitcoin is gaining traction, but not nearly enough to undermine a bank
Jan 28 11:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2268 @ 0.00066028 = 1.4975 BTC [+]
Jan 28 11:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00066159 = 6.4174 BTC [+]
Jan 28 11:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1232 @ 0.00066499 = 0.8193 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 12:15:26 <DeadWeasel>	nice article kakobrekla
Jan 28 12:17:23 <jurov>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/01/28/government-ban-on-bitcoin-would-fail-miserably/
Jan 28 12:17:43 <jurov>	other opinion. quite saner.
Jan 28 12:24:40 <DeadWeasel>	thank you
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Jan 28 12:24:42 <jcpham>	good 'ol matonis
Jan 28 12:24:53 <jcpham>	poking a stick at the gubment
Jan 28 12:25:28 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 28 12:25:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.23500, Best ask: 18.29800, Bid-ask spread: 0.06300, Last trade: 18.23500, 24 hour volume: 32801.03890254, 24 hour low: 17.60000, 24 hour high: 18.29800, 24 hour vwap: 18.01947
Jan 28 12:25:42 <Bugpowder>	dudes
Jan 28 12:25:52 <Bugpowder>	are we going to seriously challenge $20 again
Jan 28 12:26:15 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Jan 28 12:26:16 <kakobrekla>	so sad
Jan 28 12:27:23 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 20
Jan 28 12:27:24 <jcpham>	make me want to cry
Jan 28 12:27:25 <gribble>	There are currently 37282.992 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 710857.914524 USD in total.
Jan 28 12:27:45 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 17
Jan 28 12:27:47 <gribble>	There are currently 17502.231 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 305581.921765 USD in total.
Jan 28 12:27:56 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 18
Jan 28 12:27:57 <gribble>	There are currently 1048.9977 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 18980.1324954 USD in total.
Jan 28 12:28:11 <Bugpowder>	I am feeling better about drunken purchse of 4,000 calls on Sat night at the ask.
Jan 28 12:28:41 <thestringpuller>	what C180?
Jan 28 12:28:48 <Bugpowder>	C170-200
Jan 28 12:29:42 <thestringpuller>	is 17 worth more now?
Jan 28 12:30:14 <Bugpowder>	the asks are all up 4-7%
Jan 28 12:30:26 <Bugpowder>	and the bot hasn't yet caught up to the rise in price.
Jan 28 12:30:44 <Bugpowder>	no buyers out there though
Jan 28 12:30:46 <Bugpowder>	for now
Jan 28 12:31:14 <thestringpuller>	what do you do if the price begins to fall?
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Jan 28 12:31:38 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C170T
Jan 28 12:32:00 <thestringpuller>	come one assbot
Jan 28 12:32:03 <Bugpowder>	I dunno
Jan 28 12:32:10 <Bugpowder>	we are still 25 days out
Jan 28 12:32:15 <Bugpowder>	not gonna panic sell
Jan 28 12:32:35 <Bugpowder>	just keep them up just under mope bot
Jan 28 12:32:46 <Bugpowder>	someone will probably buy them eventually
Jan 28 12:34:34 <Korbman>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 28 12:34:58 <Bugpowder>	Over 100k bet on S.DICE since the last doog post
Jan 28 12:35:23 <Bugpowder>	1 million in bets might be in play this month
Jan 28 12:37:37 <kakobrekla>	again this.
Jan 28 12:42:03 <awkorama>	hello everyone
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Jan 28 12:42:24 <awkorama>	does anyone know whether there is a full credit market somewhere in bitcoin ?
Jan 28 12:42:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00065395 = 16.1526 BTC [-]
Jan 28 12:43:05 <assbot>	 sorru guise, im sick.
Jan 28 12:44:21 <jurov>	awkorama, hello, what do you mean?
Jan 28 12:44:38 <awkorama>	some exchange, where I can trade credit derivatives
Jan 28 12:44:50 <awkorama>	mainly credit default swaps that is
Jan 28 12:45:33 <Korbman>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 28 12:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00722786 / 0.0074427 / 0.00749999 (125491 shares, 933.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00528 / 0.0075 (1201012 shares, 6,341.35 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00428374 / 0.0075 (10584536 shares, 45,341.47 BTC)
Jan 28 12:45:56 <jurov>	dunno.. and bitcoin defaulted loans are usually worthless
Jan 28 12:46:15 <awkorama>	well they wouldn't be if there was protection to buy
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Jan 28 12:47:12 <DeadWeasel>	sounds like a business opportunity for you awkorama
Jan 28 12:47:45 <jurov>	i mean, it's impossible to price such a thing reasonably.. but if you can yes it's opportunity
Jan 28 12:48:12 <awkorama>	demand and supply is enough for pricing I suppose
Jan 28 12:49:05 <awkorama>	and I don't know what the difference would be, trading CDS's on public corporation (e.g. IBM) or on S.DICE.. same thing really
Jan 28 12:49:37 <DeadWeasel>	i loathe things I don't understand.  Credit Default Swaps are one of those things (there are many).
Jan 28 12:49:57 <awkorama>	DeadWeasel: do you understand shorting ?
Jan 28 12:50:25 <mod6>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_default_swap
Jan 28 12:50:53 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 28 12:50:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.42990, Best ask: 18.44997, Bid-ask spread: 0.02007, Last trade: 18.45000, 24 hour volume: 37939.91168858, 24 hour low: 17.60000, 24 hour high: 18.45000, 24 hour vwap: 18.06613
Jan 28 12:51:28 <Bugpowder>	counterparty risk in bitcoin world is astronomical
Jan 28 12:51:41 <Bugpowder>	people have made reinsurance and default insurance funds
Jan 28 12:51:44 <Bugpowder>	they were all scams
Jan 28 12:52:03 <Bugpowder>	or so ineptly run so as to approximate scams (usagi for example)
Jan 28 12:52:17 <mod6>	^^^^
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Jan 28 12:52:49 <awkorama>	i understand that otc cds market would not work, that's why exchange + clearing house that is (more trusted) is required
Jan 28 12:53:07 <awkorama>	that would escro the collateral
Jan 28 12:53:16 <awkorama>	escrow**
Jan 28 12:54:01 <DeadWeasel>	so it's loan insurance?
Jan 28 12:54:07 <DeadWeasel>	it's turtles all the way down...
Jan 28 12:54:09 <awkorama>	yes
Jan 28 12:54:28 <DeadWeasel>	thx for link.  figured it would be more complicated.
Jan 28 12:54:29 <awkorama>	sorry, what does that idiom mean?
Jan 28 12:55:45 <DeadWeasel>	after checking the wiki, it is not an apt metaphor.
Jan 28 12:55:47 <DeadWeasel>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down
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Jan 28 12:56:18 <jurov>	awkorama, actually do you see any two parties atm where cds would work?
Jan 28 12:56:33 <awkorama>	yes
Jan 28 12:56:39 <jurov>	for example?
Jan 28 12:56:47 <jurov>	i mean in bitcoinland
Jan 28 12:56:54 <awkorama>	somebody wanting to short s.dice
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Jan 28 12:57:41 <awkorama>	vs. someone trying to invest in it indirectly
Jan 28 12:57:43 <jurov>	smickles already offers s.dice for shorting
Jan 28 12:58:26 <jurov>	now if he wanted to use cds to insure the loan, how would he go about it?
Jan 28 12:59:33 <awkorama>	he would buy CDS
Jan 28 13:00:17 <awkorama>	in the event of default (determined by the exchange on objective conditions) he would receive the principal
Jan 28 13:00:31 <jurov>	yes. but how would you price the cds (if you were selling them)? that would be insane
Jan 28 13:01:08 <awkorama>	as a seller of protection ?
Jan 28 13:02:19 <awkorama>	mainly using the interest rate + research on the reference entity
Jan 28 13:02:58 <jurov>	in a situation like... on btcjam is only some 78% loans paid. and they ask personal info to eventually recover these loans later
Jan 28 13:03:13 <jurov>	we don't have much personal info between us
Jan 28 13:03:30 <awkorama>	well then that protection would be bloody expensive
Jan 28 13:03:44 <awkorama>	because the loan itself is risky
Jan 28 13:05:27 <jurov>	mircea already did experiment with CDOs, and it didn't go well exactly cause of this
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Jan 28 13:06:09 <awkorama>	78% is a bad overall rate, I give you that
Jan 28 13:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17429 @ 0.00065149 = 11.3548 BTC [-]
Jan 28 13:08:48 <awkorama>	but in theory CDS's should help here, cause they generally increase liquidity of debt
Jan 28 13:10:05 <jurov>	one can't just transplant real life financials here, just reinvent them. I think MPOE was so successful cause it is basically short-term. It loans every month anew.
Jan 28 13:10:07 <awkorama>	meaning, if I lend someone 100BTC today and tommorow I don't feel like having such big exposure to him anymore, I can just insure some part of that debt
Jan 28 13:11:01 <jurov>	the mpoe contract is clear and for the issuer has incentive to stick to it
Jan 28 13:11:57 <awkorama>	how do these options btw work on MPEx, is the seller required to pay collateral (since he has potential unlimited loss) ?
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Jan 28 13:12:21 <Bugpowder>	yes
Jan 28 13:12:30 <Bugpowder>	1btc for calls
Jan 28 13:12:34 <Bugpowder>	a bit more for puts
Jan 28 13:12:39 <Bugpowder>	max loss is 1btc on calls
Jan 28 13:12:47 <Bugpowder>	max loss is Inf btc on put
Jan 28 13:12:56 <Bugpowder>	but at btc =
Jan 28 13:13:05 <awkorama>	yeah, sure
Jan 28 13:13:19 <Bugpowder>	btc = $0, who cares about being down Inf bitcoins
Jan 28 13:13:48 <Bugpowder>	http://mpex.co/faq.html
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Jan 28 13:14:31 <jurov>	that is not exactly explained in the faq
Jan 28 13:14:41 <Bugpowder>	the collateral reqs on the SPLIT order are a bit harsh.  I think you should get 100 of each side for 100BTC, cause if one side goes to max, the other side is a zero.
Jan 28 13:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00065395 = 1.6349 BTC [+]
Jan 28 13:15:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00066499 = 5.1204 BTC [+]
Jan 28 13:15:11 <Bugpowder>	"Each CALL requires 1 BTC of collateral irrespective of strike. Each PUT requires an amount of collateral equal to strike / spot BTC ."
Jan 28 13:15:26 <Bugpowder>	^^ from the FAQ
Jan 28 13:15:40 <jurov>	i mean the reasoning behind that isn't there
Jan 28 13:16:18 <Bugpowder>	lim of (x-s)/x as x -> Inf is pretty clear
Jan 28 13:17:07 <Bugpowder>	why u don't need Inf colateral for the puts is not explained
Jan 28 13:17:26 <Bugpowder>	nor is the puts equation correct in the faq it seems
Jan 28 13:17:40 <Bugpowder>	I always get less puts then I think I'm gonna get
Jan 28 13:18:04 <jurov>	i think  cause btc can go 50% up and then 50% down in one month
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Jan 28 13:20:10 <Bugpowder_>	hehe it can do that in a WEEK
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Jan 28 13:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	ahh what's new ?
Jan 28 13:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol jurov
Jan 28 13:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	that an ad ?
Jan 28 13:36:48 <jurov>	y
Jan 28 13:38:04 <jurov>	oh and there's a mention of Mircea Popescu
Jan 28 13:38:50 <jurov>	they cite your article "The Reason Why Bitcoin Securities Can't be regulated by the SEC"
Jan 28 13:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 28 13:38:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.30000, Best ask: 18.42591, Bid-ask spread: 0.12591, Last trade: 18.30000, 24 hour volume: 39943.63867461, 24 hour low: 17.61001, 24 hour high: 18.45000, 24 hour vwap: 18.09211
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Jan 28 13:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	<awkorama> some exchange, where I can trade credit derivatives << explain.
Jan 28 13:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	jurov srsly ?! which one ?
Jan 28 13:40:35 <awkorama>	mircea_popescu: I already kind of did, is there anything that you don't understand from the conversation that followed my initial question ?
Jan 28 13:41:03 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see that any of that pertains to credit derivatives tho.
Jan 28 13:42:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00065149 = 11.2708 BTC [-]
Jan 28 13:42:05 <jurov>	it's in Bitcoin and the Law article, btcmag #6, not signed
Jan 28 13:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	o, on paper ?
Jan 28 13:42:28 <jurov>	yea
Jan 28 13:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	make me a pic would you ? can you even ?
Jan 28 13:42:30 <awkorama>	by credit derivatives I mainly meant various CDS contracts, I am not really interested in CDO's or CDO^2's
Jan 28 13:42:37 <jurov>	yes, mmnt
Jan 28 13:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	awkorama cds on what, specificqally ?
Jan 28 13:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	there's mpoe bonds in btc and that's about it.
Jan 28 13:43:05 <awkorama>	well you can have CDS on equity as well
Jan 28 13:43:17 <awkorama>	and also on general loans
Jan 28 13:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11068 @ 0.00066499 = 7.3601 BTC [+]
Jan 28 13:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14192 @ 0.000665 = 9.4377 BTC [+]
Jan 28 13:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00066582 = 1.4981 BTC [+]
Jan 28 13:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9683 @ 0.00066591 = 6.448 BTC [+]
Jan 28 13:43:55 <mircea_popescu>	i guess you could...
Jan 28 13:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	there was an attempt, the mpcd series
Jan 28 13:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	it failed miserably.
Jan 28 13:44:54 <awkorama>	because what I feel strongly in the bitcoin world is that it is hard to trust anyone, so spreading the risk is the next logical step
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Jan 28 13:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	do you want to read the mpcd history ?
Jan 28 13:48:58 <Ukto>	hmm, can someone explain this to me.. 29k share sissued.. yet tyere are over 29k shares on the ask list... https://btct.co/security/BTC-BOND
Jan 28 13:49:03 <Bugpowder_>	I enjoyed the mpcd experience
Jan 28 13:49:25 <Ukto>	er 29k outstanding
Jan 28 13:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto they allow naked shorts ?
Jan 28 13:49:32 <Ukto>	dont think so
Jan 28 13:49:34 <Bugpowder_>	it was fun exiting each tranche before it exploded
Jan 28 13:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Jan 28 13:49:47 <Ukto>	i cant post asks for more shares than I have
Jan 28 13:51:53 <mircea_popescu>	0.0
Jan 28 13:52:18 <Ukto>	hence my "wtf"
Jan 28 13:52:21 <Bugpowder_>	So I am curious.  What is the rationale for having the collateral requirements so high for split orders.  Since one side is a zero if the other side goes up, shouldn't a reasonable deposit for 50 calls and ~50 puts be 50BTC instead of 100BTC?
Jan 28 13:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto that sounds like the very definition of "they allow naked shorting"
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Jan 28 13:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ sort of a dampening factor.
Jan 28 13:54:18 <Bugpowder_>	its an exercise issue?
Jan 28 13:54:18 <Ukto>	oh yes
Jan 28 13:54:22 <Ukto>	i ment to say yes earlier
Jan 28 13:54:26 <Ukto>	not dont think so
Jan 28 13:54:33 <Ukto>	not sure wtf i was typing
Jan 28 13:54:39 <Bugpowder_>	to prevent catastropic loss from a spike than crash?
Jan 28 13:54:43 <Bugpowder_>	ala august?
Jan 28 13:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ something like that. you're thinking "momentarily one is zero" this is true, but whiplash could make someone lose on both ends
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Jan 28 14:00:39 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, http://live.coinbr.com/images/bitcoin_law.pdf , page 3
Jan 28 14:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139529.msg1485624#msg1485624 i take it you're buying ? :p
Jan 28 14:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov danke
Jan 28 14:01:15 <Bugpowder_>	I guess I just wish it wouldn't charge me for the deposit until the created contracts sold.
Jan 28 14:01:38 <jurov>	not exactly nice to read, they seem to used anti-OCR background :P
Jan 28 14:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i was gonna say WHAT THE FUCK ios that
Jan 28 14:02:52 <Bugpowder_>	well I tried to withdraw 100BTC from MPEX on Saturday to buy the gem, but never got my withdrawl
Jan 28 14:02:58 <Bugpowder_>	<cough>
Jan 28 14:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	is thsi thing printed on cheap cloth
Jan 28 14:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ you sure you actually had the cash ?
Jan 28 14:03:14 <Bugpowder_>	maybe I placed some buy orders after that
Jan 28 14:03:21 <Bugpowder_>	and that blocked it
Jan 28 14:03:37 <jurov>	it looks much better... but the halftoning clashes with my scanner
Jan 28 14:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Jan 28 14:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... you're pirateing here
Jan 28 14:04:31 <jurov>	Reproduction without writtenm permission is strictly prohibited.
Jan 28 14:04:49 <mircea_popescu>	you dun goofed
Jan 28 14:06:36 <Bugpowder_>	seriously, what did the website owner THINK was gonna happen with the gem
Jan 28 14:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ its one of two things : either a scam to sell a worthless site to some dumbass "investor" (which is what i suspect, he;'s been buying his own gem)
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Jan 28 14:07:23 <Bugpowder>	everything about the bitcoin world suggests that the price would rapidly go to 1000BTC+
Jan 28 14:07:26 <mircea_popescu>	or else what the forum says, ie, he's passing the buck and then new owner dissapears, a la tom's azns
Jan 28 14:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
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Jan 28 14:13:03 <Bugpowder>	Starting to look a lot like last thursday
Jan 28 14:13:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.3351 = 5.0265 BTC [-]
Jan 28 14:13:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.333 = 3.33 BTC [-]
Jan 28 14:13:40 <Bugpowder>	bidwall flashing at 18.20
Jan 28 14:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 28 14:14:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.32401, Best ask: 18.39988, Bid-ask spread: 0.07587, Last trade: 18.32401, 24 hour volume: 40611.11390206, 24 hour low: 17.67720, 24 hour high: 18.45000, 24 hour vwap: 18.10523
Jan 28 14:14:47 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Jan 28 14:15:06 <thestringpuller>	17 looks like real price...
Jan 28 14:15:40 <Bugpowder>	I dunno dude
Jan 28 14:15:49 <Bugpowder>	17 looks like a technical floor
Jan 28 14:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00065149 = 13.3555 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 14:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	i dun imagine it does under 18 myself
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Jan 28 14:18:22 <JWU_42>	 <+amphipod> Jan28 19:17:19 mtgox    x194 4,003.9372 @    18.49732098 USD
Jan 28 14:18:26 <JWU_42>	beefy
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Jan 28 14:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	JWU_42 i dunno how to read that, is it 4k btc in 194 diff orders ?
Jan 28 14:20:14 <Bugpowder_>	we just poked thru the 18.50 wall?
Jan 28 14:20:17 <Bugpowder_>	nice
Jan 28 14:20:22 <JWU_42>	yep
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Jan 28 14:20:38 <JWU_42>	well - 194 different asks IIRC
Jan 28 14:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	i remember the days buying 4k btc didn't run you 10k
Jan 28 14:20:56 <Bugpowder_>	;;ask 20
Jan 28 14:20:57 <gribble>	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
Jan 28 14:20:59 <Bugpowder_>	;;asks 20
Jan 28 14:21:01 <gribble>	There are currently 28609.726 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 551692.514158 USD in total.
Jan 28 14:21:09 <Bugpowder_>	that is down from over 40,000 a few hours ago
Jan 28 14:21:11 <JWU_42>	hmm
Jan 28 14:21:19 <JWU_42>	;;asks 19
Jan 28 14:21:20 <Bugpowder_>	mtgox weekend delay coming thru
Jan 28 14:21:21 <gribble>	There are currently 11455.979 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 215539.007546 USD in total.
Jan 28 14:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i wonder if i get a complimentary mag since i'm being quited in it :D
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Jan 28 14:21:37 <Bugpowder_>	see the drop on thurs
Jan 28 14:21:40 <Bugpowder_>	wire money
Jan 28 14:21:46 <Bugpowder_>	buy coins on monday
Jan 28 14:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ ya sounds likely.
Jan 28 14:22:08 <Bugpowder_>	this is why I bot calls on Saturday
Jan 28 14:22:27 <Bugpowder_>	That, and this http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/16909
Jan 28 14:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	“I think the ECB obviously is concerned, and it’s not reputational,” said Steve Hanke, a professor at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore
Jan 28 14:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	dude seriously ?!
Jan 28 14:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck does that mean and when did they start doing the whole university thing in baltimore.
Jan 28 14:23:49 <Bugpowder_>	johns hopkins?
Jan 28 14:24:10 <Bugpowder_>	1876
Jan 28 14:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ im just hatin'
Jan 28 14:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	the curse of bitcoin : it can't get any coverage unless it's either a) completely clueless or else b) incredibly fanboish
Jan 28 14:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	it seems there can't be someone who gets it and doesn't care.
Jan 28 14:26:57 <mircea_popescu>	also matonis fucked up his link to the moldbug guy
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Jan 28 14:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00065424 = 7.5892 BTC [+]
Jan 28 14:40:33 <Bowjob>	Whoa. 3 new dice winners
Jan 28 14:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	big ?
Jan 28 14:40:46 <Bowjob>	I mean on the leaderboards
Jan 28 14:42:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1500 @ 0.0074 = 11.1 BTC [-]
Jan 28 14:43:26 <jurov>	would the SPLIT on O.BTCUSD.P160T for 2BTC make 1 put option or none?
Jan 28 14:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	prolly none
Jan 28 14:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	um
Jan 28 14:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	actually prolly 1
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Jan 28 14:46:14 <jurov>	what's the formula?
Jan 28 14:46:34 <jurov>	bugpowder has just complained bout it, too
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Jan 28 14:48:22 <jurov>	strike/current would be 16/18 , that means collateral below 1BTC?
Jan 28 14:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	it takes a leetal more. not very much
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Jan 28 14:54:15 <Bugpowder_>	enough to push S.DICE thru 0.0075?
Jan 28 14:54:16 <Bugpowder_>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1485906#msg1485906
Jan 28 14:58:49 <Bugpowder_>	;;ticker
Jan 28 14:58:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.50501, Best ask: 18.60708, Bid-ask spread: 0.10207, Last trade: 18.50501, 24 hour volume: 47219.24403078, 24 hour low: 17.67720, 24 hour high: 18.63895, 24 hour vwap: 18.16932
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Jan 28 14:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	SD Profit after fees:       51037.02759636 BTC (1.939%)
Jan 28 14:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	whoa ?
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Jan 28 15:00:19 <Bugpowder_>	yah
Jan 28 15:00:26 <Bugpowder_>	over 100k bet in the last 24.
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Jan 28 15:01:51 <Bugpowder_>	840,000 BTC bet this month
Jan 28 15:02:15 <cheebydi>	wait. what?!
Jan 28 15:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	huge.
Jan 28 15:02:24 <Bugpowder_>	yup
Jan 28 15:02:31 <Ukto>	its been over a decade since i dod stock market stuffs.. if i have $10k in an eTrade account or w/e, and and put up a bid for a total of $10k on something that sits on the books, I can't just place another bid p to $10k for another asset, right?
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Jan 28 15:03:28 <pigeons>	right
Jan 28 15:03:37 <pigeons>	they copied the way bitfunder does it
Jan 28 15:05:52 <Ukto>	LOL
Jan 28 15:06:01 <Ukto>	you mean, Bitfunder does it the "normal" way
Jan 28 15:06:20 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto it's been debated in the forum numerous times. people who know better figure "it helps liquidity"
Jan 28 15:06:30 <Ukto>	but its a lie.
Jan 28 15:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	if you want i can have the girl dig up the old posts.
Jan 28 15:06:43 <dub>	dun worri, glbse 3 will have it
Jan 28 15:06:45 <Ukto>	on btct, I can fill my account with 100btc, put up to 100btc orders on each asset, and withdraw the 100btc
Jan 28 15:06:49 <Ukto>	and then its a complete, lie
Jan 28 15:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	dub speaking of which, what's happening to nefario's comeback thing ?
Jan 28 15:07:39 <mircea_popescu>	did he get the financing eventually ?
Jan 28 15:07:52 <dub>	not heard anything about it
Jan 28 15:08:04 <Ukto>	Regardless of 'pumping the numbers', i think traders have a right to knwo that a bid is actually backed, and not just a fake number on the books.
Jan 28 15:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	traders are free to figure it out neh ?
Jan 28 15:09:38 <Ukto>	I just cant bring myself to knowingly allow lies and inaccuracy on my system.
Jan 28 15:09:50 <Ukto>	I will be letting Deprived know that it just wont be happening.
Jan 28 15:09:51 <mircea_popescu>	so then don't.
Jan 28 15:10:09 <Ukto>	;;tslb
Jan 28 15:10:13 <gribble>	Time since last block: 33 minutes and 12 seconds
Jan 28 15:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	on btct, I can fill my account with 100btc, put up to 100btc orders on each asset, and withdraw the 100btc << this is pretty rich tho
Jan 28 15:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00065424 = 1.0468 BTC [+]
Jan 28 15:11:29 <dub>	thats awesome
Jan 28 15:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	it's like...
Jan 28 15:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what bernanke's waiting for
Jan 28 15:11:49 <mircea_popescu>	should be in the fucking exchange rules for usd.
Jan 28 15:13:25 <dub>	someone should rinse/repeat that and make a trillion btc wall
Jan 28 15:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	just for the lulz
Jan 28 15:13:44 <mircea_popescu>	?
Jan 28 15:13:59 <dub>	also for win
Jan 28 15:14:21 <mircea_popescu>	someone should make the whole thing
Jan 28 15:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	1. fake asset
Jan 28 15:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	2. fake bid and ask walls
Jan 28 15:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	3. ???
Jan 28 15:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	4. !!!
Jan 28 15:14:35 <mircea_popescu>	5. etc
Jan 28 15:14:43 <dub>	99. profit
Jan 28 15:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	34. pr0n first
Jan 28 15:15:19 <Ukto>	dub: you coudl do it with muliple accounts
Jan 28 15:15:29 <Ukto>	tho that would be obvious and burnside would prolly ban you for it. at least.. those accounts
Jan 28 15:15:29 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 28 15:15:32 <jurov>	or just match orders on one popular asset and closely watch the orderbook of others
Jan 28 15:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135491.msg1485958#msg1485958 lol @daniel having a shitfit
Jan 28 15:17:07 <Ukto>	LOL
Jan 28 15:17:42 <dub>	that dude is retarded
Jan 28 15:18:24 <DeadWeasel>	gettin high on his own supply
Jan 28 15:18:59 <mircea_popescu>	he has a point, we really ought to discourage that sort of shit
Jan 28 15:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	the guy clearly is professionally breaking the law.
Jan 28 15:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	not in a good way either.
Jan 28 15:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18880 @ 0.00065424 = 12.3521 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 15:24:05 <DeadWeasel>	If you had gold, what would you do with it?
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Jan 28 15:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	sell it.
Jan 28 15:24:40 <dub>	make a golden fist
Jan 28 15:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	and buy bitcoinz.
Jan 28 15:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00065424 = 0.5038 BTC [+]
Jan 28 15:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9351 @ 0.00065534 = 6.1281 BTC [+]
Jan 28 15:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2779 @ 0.00066591 = 1.8506 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 15:33:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 5 @ 0.22362465 = 1.1181 BTC [+]
Jan 28 15:33:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 28 15:33:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.70001, Best ask: 18.74988, Bid-ask spread: 0.04987, Last trade: 18.70001, 24 hour volume: 51140.36456515, 24 hour low: 17.67720, 24 hour high: 18.75000, 24 hour vwap: 18.22004
Jan 28 15:34:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 10 @ 0.19810428 = 1.981 BTC [+]
Jan 28 15:35:33 <DeadWeasel>	that's the plan
Jan 28 15:35:39 <DeadWeasel>	wish I'd done it at 1900
Jan 28 15:35:53 <DeadWeasel>	but it's in another state in a deposit box dammit
Jan 28 15:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	yah well.
Jan 28 15:36:13 <mircea_popescu>	exactly why i'd sell it lol. problem typified
Jan 28 15:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	"Chart Of The Day: Is The ECB Responsible For The Second Coming Of BitCoin? | Zero Hedge:
Jan 28 15:36:20 <DeadWeasel>	good point
Jan 28 15:36:23 <mircea_popescu>	bah, can they get sillier ?
Jan 28 15:36:36 <Korbman>	Anybody find it odd that Avalon has sort of..disappeared? Website and all..
Jan 28 15:36:45 <Diablo-D3>	they ran aground, basically
Jan 28 15:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	here's bitcoin. let us try and pin some irrelevant fiat idiocy to it because it's not possible for fiat to be irrelevant
Jan 28 15:36:54 <mircea_popescu>	Korbman nope.
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Jan 28 15:37:49 <Korbman>	mircea_popescu: haha yeah, I figured as much
Jan 28 15:38:32 <dub>	inb4 chinese new year relic collector
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Jan 28 15:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/34/an-asic-unit-from-either-bfl-avalon-or/
Jan 28 15:39:28 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Jan 28 15:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	this bet. still not resolved. specifically for that reason.
Jan 28 15:39:36 <Diablo-D3>	well hows this
Jan 28 15:39:38 <Diablo-D3>	when I get the board
Jan 28 15:39:40 <Diablo-D3>	Ill take photos of it
Jan 28 15:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Jan 28 15:40:15 <Diablo-D3>	and then I wont share the photos because Ill be too busy being rich
Jan 28 15:40:42 <dub>	take pic in front of your DC with windmills in the background
Jan 28 15:41:39 <Diablo-D3>	dub: I plan on doing that anyhow
Jan 28 15:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://buttcoin.org/bitcoin-community-spotlight-johnniewalker
Jan 28 15:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	hey, this is back from the dead
Jan 28 15:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	also http://buttcoin.org/the-buttgem
Jan 28 15:45:38 <iz>	heheh
Jan 28 15:45:51 <smickles>	< Bugpowder> I always get less puts then I think I'm gonna get< that's b/c there is a volatility secret sauce in the calc
Jan 28 15:46:55 <Korbman>	haha
Jan 28 15:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 28 15:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00722786 / 0.0074427 / 0.00749999 (125491 shares, 933.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.0052797 / 0.0075 (1193791 shares, 6,302.87 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00428374 / 0.0075 (10584536 shares, 45,341.47 BTC)
Jan 28 15:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.0074427/0.0042837
Jan 28 15:51:21 <gribble>	1.7374465999
Jan 28 15:52:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (0.0074427*18.75)/(0.0042837*13.75)
Jan 28 15:52:14 <gribble>	2.3692453635
Jan 28 15:52:29 <mircea_popescu>	150% monthly gains. this is the stuff legends are made out of.
Jan 28 15:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	the 10k btc pizza and the 150% a month s.dice investment.
Jan 28 15:53:01 <smickles>	if it was on large volume, it'd sound like the beginning of the rothschilds
Jan 28 15:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	it IS on large volume tho.
Jan 28 15:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 45341.47 * 15
Jan 28 15:53:22 <gribble>	680122.05
Jan 28 15:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	well, for some values of "large"
Jan 28 15:53:34 <smickles>	really? something like 400 million dollars?
Jan 28 15:53:58 <smickles>	if i recally the story of nathan r. correctly
Jan 28 15:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	large as in "large number of blowjobs" not as in "large number of private jets"
Jan 28 15:55:32 <smickles>	I do prefer to think in terms of % anyway
Jan 28 15:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.07**4.5
Jan 28 15:56:06 <gribble>	1.35589793584
Jan 28 15:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	pirate was a pittance by comparison.
Jan 28 15:57:22 <smickles>	heh, i'm up 2500% since june 2011
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Jan 28 15:57:26 <smickles>	or thereabouts
Jan 28 15:58:09 <DeadWeasel>	x25  nice
Jan 28 15:58:15 <pizzaman1337>	crazy
Jan 28 15:59:30 <smickles>	what's crazy is mpex
Jan 28 16:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMNgbISmF4I
Jan 28 16:00:27 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 20
Jan 28 16:00:29 <gribble>	There are currently 25617.646 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 496507.979567 USD in total.
Jan 28 16:04:23 <smickles>	;;asks 22
Jan 28 16:04:25 <gribble>	There are currently 32872.269 bitcoins offered at or under 22.0 USD, worth 648012.998936 USD in total.
Jan 28 16:04:28 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 28 16:04:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.80000000 / 0.80016949 / 0.81000000 (59 shares, 47.21000000 BTC), 7D: 0.44000000 / 0.61008278 / 0.81000000 (1329 shares, 810.80001806 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.49998681 / 0.81000000 (5268 shares, 2633.93051794 BTC)
Jan 28 16:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc sdice
Jan 28 16:04:35 <assbot>	Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
Jan 28 16:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc s.dice
Jan 28 16:04:44 <assbot>	You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
Jan 28 16:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is it called
Jan 28 16:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	omg why people can't keep to standards
Jan 28 16:05:00 <smickles>	btct.co?
Jan 28 16:05:02 <dub>	that johnniewalker video is wtf
Jan 28 16:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc gsdpt
Jan 28 16:05:10 <assbot>	[BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.0072 / 0.0074 / 0.0075 (2385 shares, 17.6 BTC),  7D: 0.0046 / 0.01 / 0.0075 (16823 shares, 106.4 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.01 / 0.0075 (27927 shares, 159.5 BTC)
Jan 28 16:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00065149 = 1.8567 BTC [-]
Jan 28 16:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker hf sdice
Jan 28 16:05:36 <assbot>	Have you got any tobacco?
Jan 28 16:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker bf sdice
Jan 28 16:05:45 <assbot>	Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
Jan 28 16:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto what;'s it called on yoru thing ?
Jan 28 16:06:22 <smickles>	!help my ass
Jan 28 16:06:23 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 28 16:06:24 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 28 16:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	o, stuill no bitfunder ?
Jan 28 16:08:54 <jurov>	sry, Ukto had to code MPBPT stuff like deissuing shares/freezing assets
Jan 28 16:09:28 <jurov>	when he finishes "nuke the asset" button i'll release him
Jan 28 16:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	whats mpbpt
Jan 28 16:10:19 <jurov>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-E
Jan 28 16:10:41 <jurov>	i suspect i'm quite a headache for him with that monthly revolving
Jan 28 16:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Jan 28 16:14:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0261 = 0.0522 BTC [+]
Jan 28 16:14:44 <smickles>	;;asks 19
Jan 28 16:14:46 <gribble>	There are currently 7831.5312 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 148281.124239 USD in total.
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Jan 28 16:17:32 <smickles>	;;calc -19/(.198-1)
Jan 28 16:17:32 <gribble>	23.6907730673
Jan 28 16:20:18 <smickles>	;;calc -18/(.31-1)
Jan 28 16:20:18 <gribble>	26.0869565217
Jan 28 16:21:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.0099 = 0.0792 BTC [+]
Jan 28 16:27:05 <smickles>	;;calc -19/(.17-1)
Jan 28 16:27:05 <gribble>	22.8915662651
Jan 28 16:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1249 @ 0.007395 = 9.2364 BTC [-]
Jan 28 16:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 28 16:30:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.75212, Best ask: 18.79998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04786, Last trade: 18.75215, 24 hour volume: 52294.18354101, 24 hour low: 17.75000, 24 hour high: 18.80000, 24 hour vwap: 18.25176
Jan 28 16:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	we're breaking 19 aren't we.
Jan 28 16:30:56 <mod6>	:D
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Jan 28 16:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20039 @ 0.00066591 = 13.3442 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 16:40:47 <jurov>	Diablo-D3 since you're getting teh asic, care to buy some X.IDIFF.MAR ?
Jan 28 16:40:57 <Diablo-D3>	nope.
Jan 28 16:41:04 <jurov>	why?
Jan 28 16:41:10 <Diablo-D3>	I dont play those games
Jan 28 16:46:11 <Bugpowder_>	;;asks 18
Jan 28 16:46:13 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 18.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 28 16:46:20 <Bugpowder_>	;;bids 18
Jan 28 16:46:21 <gribble>	There are currently 11782.413 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 214619.864681 USD in total.
Jan 28 16:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 642 @ 0.007395 = 4.7476 BTC [-]
Jan 28 16:54:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.0074 = 0.296 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 16:56:26 <DeadWease>	;;asks 19.2
Jan 28 16:56:28 <gribble>	There are currently 11396.816 bitcoins offered at or under 19.2 USD, worth 216605.517169 USD in total.
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Jan 28 16:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0006537 = 0.6537 BTC [-]
Jan 28 16:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00065369 = 7.5501 BTC [-]
Jan 28 17:03:14 <jurov>	 another gem: www.btchyip.com 0.30 % daily
Jan 28 17:03:32 <jurov>	;;calc 1.003**30
Jan 28 17:03:32 <gribble>	1.09402687487
Jan 28 17:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Jan 28 17:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, less than mpoe bnonds ?!
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Jan 28 17:08:44 <DeadWease>	;;ticker
Jan 28 17:08:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.78001, Best ask: 18.81997, Bid-ask spread: 0.03996, Last trade: 18.78001, 24 hour volume: 52827.67385708, 24 hour low: 17.75000, 24 hour high: 18.85000, 24 hour vwap: 18.26568
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Jan 28 17:18:28 <smickles>	;;asks 19
Jan 28 17:18:30 <gribble>	There are currently 6900.5812 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 130674.028466 USD in total.
Jan 28 17:18:43 <DeadWeasel_>	crap, i left my IRC on at work, I'm not gonna get banned or booted am i?
Jan 28 17:19:01 <smickles>	why would you?
Jan 28 17:19:11 <smickles>	and why don't you ghost it
Jan 28 17:19:20 <DeadWeasel_>	i have no idea, haven't used IRC in 7 years, just got back in for bitcoin
Jan 28 17:19:46 <DeadWeasel_>	bitcoin-bots banned me for somereason.  only connected once, didn't say anything.  weird.
Jan 28 17:19:50 <smickles>	 /msg nickserv help ghost
Jan 28 17:19:56 <smickles>	DeadWeasel_: ^^
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Jan 28 17:20:54 <smickles>	:)
Jan 28 17:20:54 <DeadWeasel_>	wow, thanks.
Jan 28 17:21:03 <DeadWeasel_>	i'll rtfm next time.
Jan 28 17:21:55 <smickles>	always a wise choice to rtfm :D
Jan 28 17:22:18 <DeadWeasel_>	too many fm!
Jan 28 17:22:27 <DeadWeasel_>	slow and steady I guess
Jan 28 17:29:02 <jurov>	this btc tabloid is hilarious: "GLBSE went from being a scam-ridden backwater to the home of hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of investment funds."
Jan 28 17:30:27 <jborkl>	What does a proper buy order look like?
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Jan 28 17:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	jurov can they name one of them funds ?!
Jan 28 17:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl BUY|S.DICE|100|100 for instance
Jan 28 17:31:09 <jborkl>	thank you
Jan 28 17:33:12 <Bugpowder_>	just make sure you dont swap the positions of # of shares and price of shares...
Jan 28 17:33:13 <Bugpowder_>	heheh
Jan 28 17:33:49 <Bugpowder_>	1000 bidwall at 18.75 now
Jan 28 17:33:51 <Bugpowder_>	yesss
Jan 28 17:33:52 <jurov>	jborkl, if you use pympex, -h shows an example ,too. with proper quotes.
Jan 28 17:33:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5900 @ 0.007395 = 43.6305 BTC [-]
Jan 28 17:34:02 <Bugpowder_>	looks like it worked!
Jan 28 17:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 28 17:34:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.80999, Best ask: 18.81000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 18.80999, 24 hour volume: 53584.25565676, 24 hour low: 17.75000, 24 hour high: 18.85000, 24 hour vwap: 18.27732
Jan 28 17:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	teh sweet.
Jan 28 17:34:32 <Bugpowder_>	Please go to 50
Jan 28 17:34:38 <Bugpowder_>	I have so many calls
Jan 28 17:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	lolz
Jan 28 17:35:14 <mircea_popescu>	i think 50 may be a little much.
Jan 28 17:35:16 <Bugpowder_>	like
Jan 28 17:35:18 <dub>	yes 50
Jan 28 17:35:21 <dub>	then, 1
Jan 28 17:35:22 <Bugpowder_>	yes 50!
Jan 28 17:35:25 <Bugpowder_>	why not!
Jan 28 17:35:44 <dub>	because bitcoin
Jan 28 17:35:58 <jurov>	32 would be ok. cause bitbet :P
Jan 28 17:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 28 17:36:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6970 @ 0.00065766 = 4.5839 BTC [+]
Jan 28 17:36:49 <Bugpowder_>	I would be ok with 37, because Tesla model S
Jan 28 17:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 28 17:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	what if 17 bugsy
Jan 28 17:37:06 <Bugpowder_>	BITCAR
Jan 28 17:37:08 <Bugpowder_>	uhhh
Jan 28 17:37:11 <Bugpowder_>	17?
Jan 28 17:37:15 <Bugpowder_>	uhhh
Jan 28 17:38:02 <Bugpowder_>	then I'm back to Jan 14th 2013
Jan 28 17:38:04 <mircea_popescu>	17 is a good number.
Jan 28 17:38:10 <Bugpowder_>	prime
Jan 28 17:38:12 <mircea_popescu>	im fucking a 17yo chick, she's juicy...
Jan 28 17:38:20 <mircea_popescu>	37 is a little stringy.
Jan 28 17:39:47 <Bugpowder_>	There has not been a single big dump in this rally
Jan 28 17:39:51 <Bugpowder_>	not even a 5k one
Jan 28 17:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	i haven't really been watching
Jan 28 17:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 4000 @ 0.00139 = 5.56 BTC [-]
Jan 28 17:42:38 <Bugpowder_>	just look at clark moody
Jan 28 17:42:43 <Bugpowder_>	all the tall bars are green
Jan 28 17:42:49 <DeadWeasel_>	they're waiting for 19.16 again
Jan 28 17:43:00 <DeadWeasel_>	or not
Jan 28 17:43:06 <DeadWeasel_>	i have no idear
Jan 28 17:43:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3719 @ 0.00065766 = 2.4458 BTC [+]
Jan 28 17:43:17 <DeadWeasel_>	just another redneck on the interwebz
Jan 28 17:43:21 <Bugpowder_>	last be drop was Firday night
Jan 28 17:43:43 <DeadWeasel_>	was a weird weekend, no drop.
Jan 28 17:43:59 <DeadWeasel_>	shocked on on sunday morning
Jan 28 17:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065393 = 7.6183 BTC [-]
Jan 28 17:44:05 <Bugpowder_>	that bitbrew guy must be so happy
Jan 28 17:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	bitbrew ?!
Jan 28 17:44:24 <Bugpowder_>	I bought like 5 pounds of coffee off him
Jan 28 17:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Jan 28 17:44:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.001139 / 0.00123697 / 0.0015 (11280 shares, 13.95 BTC), 7D: 0.00100006 / 0.00116432 / 0.0015 (44010 shares, 51.24 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00079135 / 0.0035 (2311563 shares, 1,829.26 BTC)
Jan 28 17:44:34 <Bugpowder_>	at 3BTC / lb
Jan 28 17:44:42 <mircea_popescu>	not bad
Jan 28 17:44:56 <Bugpowder_>	it seemed cheap at the time
Jan 28 17:46:57 <dub>	I love m$
Jan 28 17:47:23 <dub>	my t, v, c, h and possibly other keys don't work in outlook
Jan 28 17:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	18 letters should be enough for anyone.
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Jan 28 17:56:11 <Bugpowder_>	booyah
Jan 28 17:56:26 <Bugpowder_>	;;asks 19
Jan 28 17:56:28 <gribble>	There are currently 6540.5084 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 123910.430553 USD in total.
Jan 28 17:56:46 <Bugpowder_>	lag
Jan 28 17:57:25 <DeadWeasel_>	;;asks 20
Jan 28 17:57:27 <gribble>	There are currently 23987.436 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 465955.615851 USD in total.
Jan 28 17:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00737304 = 1.4746 BTC [-]
Jan 28 17:57:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00737303 = 5.5298 BTC [-]
Jan 28 17:58:09 <Bugpowder_>	the asks are still lagged
Jan 28 17:58:21 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 17
Jan 28 17:58:23 <gribble>	There are currently 29960.301 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 531395.791806 USD in total.
Jan 28 17:58:35 <Bugpowder_>	should be 5403 below 19
Jan 28 17:58:48 <DeadWeasel_>	we used to worry about lag because of headshots.  now it's sniping for $$$.  long live Quake.
Jan 28 17:58:53 <Bugpowder_>	;;asks 37
Jan 28 17:58:55 <gribble>	There are currently 53877.097 bitcoins offered at or under 37.0 USD, worth 1290692.2985 USD in total.
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Jan 28 18:03:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 168 @ 0.0261 = 4.3848 BTC [+]
Jan 28 18:04:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.026 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Jan 28 18:04:50 <Bugpowder_>	I like to see that as the number of asks go down, the number of bids > 18 keeps going up.  Organic bidding rather than impatient bidwalls
Jan 28 18:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 28 18:06:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.86001, Best ask: 18.87054, Bid-ask spread: 0.01053, Last trade: 18.87054, 24 hour volume: 55495.39610726, 24 hour low: 17.75000, 24 hour high: 18.88000, 24 hour vwap: 18.30617
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Jan 28 18:14:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 72 @ 0.0089 = 0.6408 BTC [+]
Jan 28 18:16:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 40 @ 0.009 = 0.36 BTC [+]
Jan 28 18:17:07 <DeadWeasel_>	how many of you are self-taught traders?  you know, without an education in finance, etc?
Jan 28 18:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	my degrees are in philosophy&anthropology
Jan 28 18:18:43 <Bugpowder_>	neuroscience
Jan 28 18:19:10 <Bugpowder_>	I think losing money trading is the best education for finance.
Jan 28 18:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	"value of engineer tracks total value of broken equipment"
Jan 28 18:21:03 <mircea_popescu>	btw Bugpowder_ saw quite a scene today sitting in the cab waiting for girls to drag in the shopping
Jan 28 18:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	tabby cat running down the street chased by bigger black cat
Jan 28 18:21:31 <mircea_popescu>	which caught up with it, went on top of it and snapped it's neck
Jan 28 18:21:42 <mircea_popescu>	tabby went into tremors, peed and died.
Jan 28 18:22:09 <Bugpowder_>	hoo my
Jan 28 18:22:21 <Bugpowder_>	r u scarred 4 lyfe?
Jan 28 18:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	that dude was like a fucking assasin, took like .3 seconds flat to do it too
Jan 28 18:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	no, but [one of] the girls were
Jan 28 18:22:50 <DeadWeasel_>	jesus christ.  cats are learning kung fu.
Jan 28 18:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	driver thought someone hit the cat with a car
Jan 28 18:23:27 <DeadWeasel_>	but it was just ninja cat.
Jan 28 18:23:33 <mircea_popescu>	for srs.
Jan 28 18:23:44 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder_: are phf
Jan 28 18:23:49 <DeadWeasel_>	damn.  tabby walked down the wrong alley.
Jan 28 18:23:49 <thestringpuller>	phd*
Jan 28 18:23:56 <DeadWeasel_>	nice.
Jan 28 18:24:12 <mircea_popescu>	better not be hittin' on that cat's bitchez or else he waits on a tree branch above your doorway
Jan 28 18:24:25 <DeadWeasel_>	so your technology skills are self-taught I assume?
Jan 28 18:24:41 <Bugpowder_>	yea
Jan 28 18:24:43 <Bugpowder_>	shit
Jan 28 18:24:49 <Bugpowder_>	just got reviews for paper back
Jan 28 18:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	FLUNKED
Jan 28 18:24:56 <DeadWeasel_>	!!
Jan 28 18:25:01 <DeadWeasel_>	ouch
Jan 28 18:25:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0324 BTC [+]
Jan 28 18:26:22 <DeadWeasel_>	i'm asking these questions, trying to motivate myself to learn to trade some bitcoin assets.  i believe in this as crucial piece of the freedom triangle that is humanities future.  also, I guess I'm greedy.  I want more than I have.
Jan 28 18:26:47 <Bugpowder_>	Its not that bad actually
Jan 28 18:27:24 <DeadWeasel_>	it doesn't seem so, just kinda scary.  If I did so, I'd have to wager at least half my savings.  as you can guess by the requirements, that is very small.
Jan 28 18:27:53 <DeadWeasel_>	but I bet on gold, made 2x, selling that, want to go all BTC.  all in.
Jan 28 18:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel_ why'd you have to wager half your savings ?!
Jan 28 18:29:08 <DeadWeasel_>	because my saving is awfully small.  i've no debt, but not a big cushion either.  long story
Jan 28 18:29:21 <DeadWeasel_>	not for 94+ IRC people
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Jan 28 18:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	it's bitcoin dood, it has 8 decimals
Jan 28 18:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	you can trade on one cent
Jan 28 18:31:34 <DeadWeasel_>	post registration, anyhow.
Jan 28 18:31:37 <kakobrekla>	i can kick a few so we are under 94.
Jan 28 18:31:39 <DeadWeasel_>	or passthrough
Jan 28 18:32:00 <DeadWeasel_>	but third party is....   too many parties.
Jan 28 18:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	o, you mean mpex reg ?
Jan 28 18:32:15 <DeadWeasel_>	yeah.
Jan 28 18:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	well at any rate why do anything scary ?
Jan 28 18:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	relax, enjoy it.
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Jan 28 18:33:04 <DeadWeasel_>	I am enjoying it.  just watching BTC go up and up and up, then way down, then up, the down again, then up alittle.  then way up.
Jan 28 18:33:27 <smickles>	< kakobrekla> i can kick a few so we are under 94. << lol, such a gossip
Jan 28 18:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 28 18:33:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.75000, Best ask: 18.75960, Bid-ask spread: 0.00960, Last trade: 18.75960, 24 hour volume: 56923.28708903, 24 hour low: 17.75000, 24 hour high: 18.88000, 24 hour vwap: 18.32505
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Jan 28 18:36:13 <Bugpowder_>	The rally is over ;(
Jan 28 18:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	nothing lasts forever
Jan 28 18:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps with the exception of a good orgasm
Jan 28 18:37:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.007395 = 3.6975 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 18:40:13 <mod6>	1867 bid @ 18.7 && 1128 asked @ 18.9
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Jan 28 18:40:38 <smickles>	wences
Jan 28 18:41:02 <mod6>	now only 600 @ 18.9
Jan 28 18:41:06 *	smickles wences
Jan 28 18:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	winces you mean ?
Jan 28 18:41:25 <smickles>	it's like just reading the name draws a wince out of me
Jan 28 18:41:30 <mod6>	haha
Jan 28 18:41:36 <dub>	you rounded an mpex deposit?
Jan 28 18:41:39 <mod6>	i think it may still have some legs...
Jan 28 18:42:04 <mod6>	haha dub
Jan 28 18:42:06 <smickles>	why round any bitcoin amount?
Jan 28 18:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	srsly.
Jan 28 18:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	round rump good, round bitcoin bad
Jan 28 18:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	the rrg-rbb rule.
Jan 28 18:42:53 <kakobrekla>	i round everything to 21mil
Jan 28 18:43:20 <smickles>	i'm considering switching to gnucash from pen and paper, but it only goes to 6 decimals. /me tests using satoshi for everthing
Jan 28 18:43:32 <smickles>	bah, it forces commas at intervals of 3
Jan 28 18:43:38 <smickles>	i want at intervals of 4!
Jan 28 18:44:05 <mod6>	seporators are no matter!
Jan 28 18:44:08 <mod6>	;)
Jan 28 18:44:26 <smickles>	they bother me when they are there, more than when they arn't
Jan 28 18:45:07 <mod6>	mpex forced me to learn sat. nat.
Jan 28 18:45:27 *	smickles says this as he has recently sent out a statement of account where he took the time to manually, and deliberately type in separators
Jan 28 18:45:53 <smickles>	wth is sat. nat.?
Jan 28 18:46:06 <mod6>	err, satoshi notation
Jan 28 18:46:17 <iz>	gnucash is pretty good
Jan 28 18:46:37 <smickles>	lol, i was googling sat. nat.... hopeless
Jan 28 18:46:43 <mod6>	sorry.
Jan 28 18:46:44 <mod6>	:/
Jan 28 18:47:30 <smickles>	iz: i've only found issues with securities as liabilities and that it doesn't directly or easily support bitcoin
Jan 28 18:48:18 <smickles>	for somereason, if i tell it that I have S.DICE on account for THATGUY, it thinks I sold the S.DICE
Jan 28 18:48:21 <smickles>	@.@
Jan 28 18:49:10 <smickles>	mod6: did you learn your sat.nat. with commas every 3 places?
Jan 28 18:49:23 <smickles>	i didn't, and having them there is annoying
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Jan 28 18:50:32 <mod6>	well, i personally wasn't used to the idea of 2500 sat. as 0.00002500 -- but yeah, i can do without the seperators
Jan 28 18:51:02 <mod6>	mpex forced me to strictly examine every order's sat value closely
Jan 28 18:51:10 <iz>	smickles: ah yeah... well, you could get someone to patch it or contrib to it
Jan 28 18:51:23 <mod6>	but im better for this nao :)
Jan 28 18:51:31 <smickles>	iz: i think there are patches out there already
Jan 28 18:51:56 <smickles>	but, it would be easier to stay with my distro's package manager
Jan 28 18:55:13 <dub>	omg bitcoin broken, panic sell
Jan 28 18:55:14 <dub>	http://www.nilsschneider.net/2013/01/28/recovering-bitcoin-private-keys.html
Jan 28 18:55:29 <jcpham>	hax
Jan 28 18:56:48 <iz>	lol, nice
Jan 28 18:57:49 <pizzaman1337>	dang
Jan 28 18:58:05 <Bugpowder_>	;;asks 19
Jan 28 18:58:07 <gribble>	There are currently 4983.2012 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 94441.1376911 USD in total.
Jan 28 18:58:12 <Bugpowder_>	ooooo yaaaa
Jan 28 18:58:17 <smickles>	lol, don't use the same random number over and over again
Jan 28 18:58:40 <kakobrekla>	http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/random_number.png
Jan 28 18:58:54 <smickles>	:)
Jan 28 18:59:51 <smickles>	kakobrekla: http://digitaloffense.net/tools/debian-openssl/pmeo9hcjp7aw9.jpg
Jan 28 19:00:33 <mircea_popescu>	smickles why not simply use satoshi as unit ?
Jan 28 19:00:37 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 28 19:00:46 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the forced commas are annoying
Jan 28 19:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, ` much nicer.
Jan 28 19:01:27 <smickles>	2205644893 is mangled into 2,205,644,893
Jan 28 19:01:49 <smickles>	22,0564,4893 would be much nicer
Jan 28 19:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	gnoobs.
Jan 28 19:02:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00065393 = 1.2425 BTC [-]
Jan 28 19:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	dub ouch that actually is an issue
Jan 28 19:04:27 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: is that not the reason the dev teams always says to use a unique addy for every tx?
Jan 28 19:04:37 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik
Jan 28 19:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	this is unrelated, the problem is same random number used with diff transactions
Jan 28 19:05:42 <kakobrekla>	something that normally does not happen
Jan 28 19:05:50 <kakobrekla>	and according to spec it should not?
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Jan 28 19:06:15 <iz>	the page says it was a hardware bitcoin wallet
Jan 28 19:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Jan 28 19:06:29 <iz>	so i assume it was some custom btc client, not the official client
Jan 28 19:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	afaik the recomendation for ew addy each time is anonimity and some vague "maybe someone cracks the digest"
Jan 28 19:06:59 <dub>	yes, they're talkign about it in -dev and its come up elsewhere in broken implementations
Jan 28 19:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	iz it wouldn't surprise me if it were an old client. who knows
Jan 28 19:07:06 <iz>	yeah
Jan 28 19:07:45 <dub>	<tcatm> lianj: These are from a hardware wallet called bitcoincard(.org) with little entropy.
Jan 28 19:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10138 @ 0.00065393 = 6.6295 BTC [-]
Jan 28 19:08:02 <dub>	(tcatm is the author)
Jan 28 19:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	tcatm = niels ?!
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Jan 28 19:09:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Jan 28 19:10:03 <dub>	yes
Jan 28 19:10:36 <mircea_popescu>	had no idea.
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Jan 28 19:18:20 <dub>	hrmf, this channel used to be cool, edgy and underground
Jan 28 19:18:25 <dub>	now its all mainstream
Jan 28 19:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	fu dub
Jan 28 19:18:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00065602 = 3.4769 BTC [+]
Jan 28 19:18:52 *	dub flicks his blue fringe to one side
Jan 28 19:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	you;re the only mainstream guy here
Jan 28 19:19:16 *	dub also cuts himself
Jan 28 19:19:21 <jcpham>	I may have mentioned the channel publicly
Jan 28 19:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	well it's in my faq
Jan 28 19:20:02 <iz>	mentioned the channel at an indie rock concert you rode your fixie bike to
Jan 28 19:20:03 <jcpham>	dub let's leave. you go first
Jan 28 19:20:07 <dub>	yes but only 7 people have read that
Jan 28 19:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	back when glbse was still going my customers used to read my faq ;/
Jan 28 19:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	anyways, im off. prop the btc up!
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Jan 28 19:25:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00065602 = 1.3776 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 19:27:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0322 BTC [-]
Jan 28 19:28:31 <kakobrekla>	yeah dub but its one of the few that has life and its bearable at the same time.
Jan 28 19:28:36 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 28 19:29:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0323 = 0.1615 BTC [+]
Jan 28 19:30:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00065393 = 12.1304 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 19:31:07 *	jurov is helping woith wordpress site and waits for ftp upload of 1400 files
Jan 28 19:31:17 <thestringpuller>	;;r
Jan 28 19:31:18 <gribble>	Error: "r" is not a valid command.
Jan 28 19:31:19 <thestringpuller>	t
Jan 28 19:31:27 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 28 19:31:27 <jurov>	PHP/FTP...feels so like 20th century
Jan 28 19:31:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.72101, Best ask: 18.84759, Bid-ask spread: 0.12658, Last trade: 18.72101, 24 hour volume: 57799.79481071, 24 hour low: 17.75894, 24 hour high: 18.88000, 24 hour vwap: 18.35065
Jan 28 19:31:49 <thestringpuller>	;;asks
Jan 28 19:31:49 <gribble>	(asks [--over] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoins for sale at or under <pricetarget>. If '--over' option is given, find coins or at or over <pricetarget>.
Jan 28 19:31:57 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 20
Jan 28 19:31:58 <gribble>	There are currently 22273.197 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 433428.727408 USD in total.
Jan 28 19:32:19 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 17
Jan 28 19:32:24 <gribble>	There are currently 27964.368 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 498261.058002 USD in total.
Jan 28 19:33:01 <dub>	kakobrekla: joking really, ~100 people then the godfather of bitcoin gambling, evoorhees waltzes in
Jan 28 19:33:33 <dub>	still, hope the SNR doesn't suffer too badly
Jan 28 19:34:03 <evoorhees>	what's SNR?
Jan 28 19:34:19 <Diablo-D3>	snorting blow to niggers ratio
Jan 28 19:35:28 <dub>	evoorhees: signal to noise ratio, broadly speaking the measure of how relevant a channel is to dub's interests
Jan 28 19:36:26 <jurov>	!ticker noise
Jan 28 19:36:26 <assbot>	Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
Jan 28 19:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 562 @ 0.00065393 = 0.3675 BTC [-]
Jan 28 19:37:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1223 @ 0.00065369 = 0.7995 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 19:40:48 <kakobrekla>	damn it, each time assbot returns a quote, i end up watchin the clips on youtube.
Jan 28 19:42:21 <iz>	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-28/bitcoin-s-gains-may-fuel-central-bank-concerns-chart-of-the-day.html
Jan 28 19:44:50 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG_IwB9dfXw
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Jan 28 19:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1142 @ 0.00065369 = 0.7465 BTC [-]
Jan 28 19:48:45 <dub>	iz: still orlling out the OMG $510k funding, thats the paperclip budget at an f500
Jan 28 19:48:57 <dub>	rolling*
Jan 28 19:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 249 @ 0.00737303 = 1.8359 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 19:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3835 @ 0.00065369 = 2.5069 BTC [-]
Jan 28 19:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60 @ 0.00065154 = 0.0391 BTC [-]
Jan 28 19:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00065153 = 9.773 BTC [-]
Jan 28 19:58:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3305 @ 0.00065149 = 2.1532 BTC [-]
Jan 28 19:59:52 <dub>	Hi Change,
Jan 28 20:00:13 <dub>	oops
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Jan 28 20:19:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1609 @ 0.00065149 = 1.0482 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 20:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00065555 = 4.5889 BTC [+]
Jan 28 20:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 227 @ 0.00065602 = 0.1489 BTC [+]
Jan 28 20:37:40 <Diablo-D3>	http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cache:lmgtfy.com
Jan 28 20:38:44 <kakobrekla>	hehe
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Jan 28 20:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00065149 = 1.6939 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 20:53:42 <gesell>	im not so apposed to the 30btc for mpex but it makes proxy funds attractive. however, i dont trust the security of the proxy funds.
Jan 28 20:54:00 <gesell>	torn between parting with 30btc (not a small chump of change) for peace of mind, or going a proxy
Jan 28 20:54:05 <gesell>	how have others consiered this?
Jan 28 20:54:36 <Namworld>	30 BTC, worth it
Jan 28 20:54:54 <Namworld>	I made more than that back on trading and options
Jan 28 20:57:09 <mjrIII>	i think it makes a lot of sense
Jan 28 20:57:15 <mjrIII>	like a seat on the exchange
Jan 28 20:57:18 <mjrIII>	right?
Jan 28 20:57:39 <mjrIII>	surprised there aren't more brokers though...i guess that is what the proxies he is talking about are?
Jan 28 20:57:55 <Namworld>	I believe that's the idea behind the price
Jan 28 20:58:15 <mjrIII>	it makes a lot of sense...i mean you could conveivably make back the money ONLY executing trades for others
Jan 28 20:58:25 <gesell>	yeah, could make many comparisons to non-digital securities markets but still, security in the digital world is a serious issue and trusting a proxy adds another layer of abstraction to being able to trust
Jan 28 20:58:32 <kakobrekla>	more brokers? you have smickles and coinbr, isnt that enough?
Jan 28 20:58:41 <mjrIII>	well yes of course, but the NYSE wasn't always "rock solid"
Jan 28 20:58:49 <mjrIII>	very wild west early on
Jan 28 20:58:56 <mjrIII>	that's why i like bitcoin lol
Jan 28 20:59:09 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 28 20:59:20 <mjrIII>	in fact, i think it is kind of nice that people are forced to be careful
Jan 28 20:59:26 <gesell>	as a strategy, mpex holds sdice and is milking that to bring proxies to spread the world (I say this in a negative way but im trying to say its smart)
Jan 28 20:59:34 <gesell>	s/world/word
Jan 28 20:59:57 <mjrIII>	you won't have some exchange busting trades because of fat fingers lol, and no short sale restrictions
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Jan 28 21:00:35 <mjrIII>	so in some ways, mpex acts as broker/dealer, underwriter, and market maker? lol...also the exchange
Jan 28 21:00:36 <gesell>	to me the proxy push seems a bit rushed. really hard to trust their security
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Jan 28 21:01:05 <mjrIII>	like if we combined nasdaq, goldman, knight into one entity
Jan 28 21:01:46 <Namworld>	then go for the account if you can't trust them. Trades done directly through MPEx are highly confidential and secure.
Jan 28 21:02:01 <mjrIII>	i really really like how he created an entire protocol...but i have to wonder why he didn't just use a fix type message
Jan 28 21:02:12 <mjrIII>	i guess simplicity is important...
Jan 28 21:02:27 <gesell>	yeah i noticed. its also notice to know that all your shareholders can deal with the terminal and gpg :P
Jan 28 21:02:44 <gesell>	er s/notice/nice
Jan 28 21:02:51 <mjrIII>	yeah, again like old days with specialists and terminals
Jan 28 21:03:10 <mjrIII>	i had an idea...and if this is not the correct place for it, i will stop
Jan 28 21:03:15 <gesell>	just sayin, if i had a company i'd love for those early adopters
Jan 28 21:03:33 <mjrIII>	but has anyone ever thought of creating a pink sheet company which holds bitcoins?
Jan 28 21:03:51 <jurov>	gesell, what do you say about coinbr?
Jan 28 21:03:51 <mjrIII>	i mean, ideally otcbb would be better
Jan 28 21:03:52 <gesell>	pink sheet means what?
Jan 28 21:04:08 <mjrIII>	pink sheets are the lowest form of equities in usa
Jan 28 21:04:16 <mjrIII>	well they have multiple categories
Jan 28 21:04:30 <mjrIII>	but they basically require no financials, no audits...
Jan 28 21:04:42 <mjrIII>	and are traded electronically, 24 hours a day
Jan 28 21:05:00 <mjrIII>	when you hear people talk about "penny stocks" they mean pink sheets (usually)
Jan 28 21:05:12 <mjrIII>	but to avoid any SEC regulation...pink sheets would be the way to go
Jan 28 21:05:13 <dub>	jurov: think he's saying he doesnt know if he can trust coinbr or why he's being forced to choose between trusting you and 30btc
Jan 28 21:05:16 <gesell>	jurov: looks fine.
Jan 28 21:05:37 <gesell>	but dub got it right
Jan 28 21:06:19 <gesell>	also trying to get a feel for how this 30btc feels to other people.... apart from the eager mpex shareholders :P
Jan 28 21:06:45 <jurov>	well, i'm providing gpg receipts signed by mpex for all orders, hard to do more
Jan 28 21:06:51 <dub>	part of the 30btc is buying mircea insulation from people who can't afford to spend 30btc
Jan 28 21:07:07 <Namworld>	If you trade shares for ay kind of large volume (few hundreds BTC), 30 BTC is nothing
Jan 28 21:07:20 <Namworld>	You can get cheaper shares, resell them
Jan 28 21:07:24 <thestringpuller>	Namworld:
Jan 28 21:07:30 <Namworld>	Plus if you need to trade options
Jan 28 21:07:34 <thestringpuller>	can you take order for me maybe?
Jan 28 21:08:16 <Namworld>	I suppose I could. But why not use coinbr? I think jurov has just as much trust for himself.
Jan 28 21:08:28 <Namworld>	and fees are not bad.
Jan 28 21:09:40 <mjrIII>	hmmm...coinbr looks weird in my browser...is chrome not ok for it?
Jan 28 21:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17273 @ 0.00065602 = 11.3314 BTC [+]
Jan 28 21:10:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 627 @ 0.00065766 = 0.4124 BTC [+]
Jan 28 21:10:18 <gesell>	coinbr fees are not bad at all
Jan 28 21:10:42 <jurov>	uh, how weird?
Jan 28 21:10:48 <dub>	gesell: FWIW, jurov is trusted by a few trustworthy people, he seems lucid and rational, has not stolen my money yet, shows up in person to bitcoin events etc
Jan 28 21:11:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7184 @ 0.00065766 = 4.7246 BTC [+]
Jan 28 21:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5116 @ 0.00065828 = 3.3678 BTC [+]
Jan 28 21:11:30 <gesell>	Namworld it sounds like to make the mpex entry fee profitable you have to treat it like a job and creating activity. i was more looking for longer-term (in the bitcoin world that means 6 months to a year) investments to dividends
Jan 28 21:11:58 <Namworld>	Hmm
Jan 28 21:12:08 <kakobrekla>	o a year, 2500%.
Jan 28 21:12:11 <jurov>	dub :)
Jan 28 21:12:18 <gesell>	dub: im not contemplating jurov's trust worthyness but rather his ability to code securely. (as my day job is to break such code)
Jan 28 21:12:40 <Namworld>	I still recommend trading on MPEx
Jan 28 21:12:44 <jurov>	gesell, betatesters are welcome :D
Jan 28 21:12:48 <Namworld>	even for long term
Jan 28 21:12:51 <mjrIII>	that is very true i think...but one does not get a seat on the exchange to buy a few shares...you open a brokerage account...i think he has set himself up as the exchange, and expects you to go through brokers
Jan 28 21:12:59 <Namworld>	unless you have very few BTC
Jan 28 21:13:07 <kakobrekla>	use manual broker aka smickles then
Jan 28 21:13:37 <gesell>	Namworld: no? i mean you buy shares, sell them out somewhere else for a prof. i admire it im just saying i might not fit that bill so curious if holding for long term makes sense. bleh. just ignore me though i can calculate the numbers ;)
Jan 28 21:14:12 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: I meant for bitvps
Jan 28 21:14:17 <gesell>	Namworld: thanks for the input.
Jan 28 21:14:41 <Namworld>	Well if you don't plan staying after that period, would not be worth it.
Jan 28 21:14:49 <gesell>	Namworld: i was looking more to test waters with a couple hundred btc and see where that goes as i start to understand these markets
Jan 28 21:15:23 <Namworld>	But anything long term, it might be interesting. Especially if you want to start trading options which are also interesting.
Jan 28 21:15:42 <gesell>	anyone want to sell their PGP key reg'ed on mpex for 20btc? :P
Jan 28 21:15:50 <kakobrekla>	btw
Jan 28 21:15:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Jan 28 21:16:05 <kakobrekla>	you can save yourself 5btc
Jan 28 21:16:09 <kakobrekla>	mention my key id :p 27AF75321F2489E8
Jan 28 21:16:33 <Namworld>	Hey... I already gave mine =/
Jan 28 21:16:41 <kakobrekla>	where?
Jan 28 21:16:51 <Namworld>	PM?
Jan 28 21:16:52 <gesell>	kakobrekla: on mpex?
Jan 28 21:16:56 <kakobrekla>	gesell ya
Jan 28 21:16:57 <jurov>	gesell really, not to brag, but i have yet to encounter bug caused by improper user input validation. all i had so far was mpex mismatch
Jan 28 21:17:00 <kakobrekla>	Namworld yeah me too :)
Jan 28 21:17:17 <Namworld>	yes, on MPEx
Jan 28 21:17:24 <jurov>	maybe coinbr needs expert like you ;)
Jan 28 21:18:08 <mjrIII>	i'm glad i finally found this channel
Jan 28 21:18:16 <mjrIII>	the others were not nearly as interesting
Jan 28 21:18:37 <kakobrekla>	you aint seen nothing yet.
Jan 28 21:18:40 <kakobrekla>	;)
Jan 28 21:18:50 <mjrIII>	lol
Jan 28 21:18:58 <dub>	of course if you do go the coinbr route, use this link ;)  https://coinbr.com/ref?c=A3R7Tstq16
Jan 28 21:19:14 <mjrIII>	does anyone take advantage of margin? that could really make it worthwhile to pay the 30btc
Jan 28 21:19:34 <mjrIII>	did anyone mention that part to gesell?
Jan 28 21:19:51 <mjrIII>	have to build up trust (per the faq) but that alone could be worth it over time
Jan 28 21:19:56 <kakobrekla>	you need to have a strong(er) web of trust rating for that
Jan 28 21:20:02 <mjrIII>	yes of course
Jan 28 21:20:24 <mjrIII>	i have 0 web of trust right now, but i figured if i was sinking 30btc into something i would work really hard on changing that
Jan 28 21:21:00 <jurov>	kako, did mircea gave you margin just based on wot rating?
Jan 28 21:21:12 <kakobrekla>	investing a little time to set yourself wot dentity is totaly woth it on the long run
Jan 28 21:21:15 <jurov>	when i asked, he told me i need much bigger mpex volume
Jan 28 21:21:27 <kakobrekla>	jurov i never used margin
Jan 28 21:21:36 <kakobrekla>	be iirc i got offered once
Jan 28 21:22:24 <gesell>	jurov: im going to play with coinbr after some sleep
Jan 28 21:22:28 <jurov>	gesell, i think with couple hundred btc you won't fill MP's margin-worthy threshold
Jan 28 21:22:34 <gesell>	fare fees, etc etc
Jan 28 21:23:01 <gesell>	jurov: whys that (worthy threshold). (feel free to drop terms. I can RTFM)
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Jan 28 21:24:10 <gesell>	dub: thanks, will use the refer :)
Jan 28 21:24:11 <jurov>	it's nowhere stated officially. i was told  thousands of btc/month volume
Jan 28 21:24:33 <jurov>	ask MP when he comes, i won't speak for him
Jan 28 21:25:41 <gesell>	finance is not my normal field so im sort of doing this because i have the btc and hell i have to learn this stuff or get rid of it, imo
Jan 28 21:25:54 <kakobrekla>	yes btc wl
Jan 28 21:25:58 <kakobrekla>	orthless
Jan 28 21:26:02 <kakobrekla>	send over here.
Jan 28 21:26:05 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 28 21:26:12 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: where you at
Jan 28 21:26:12 <jurov>	gesell, normal daytrading can be very satisfying, without any margin
Jan 28 21:26:16 <mjrIII>	ok...this may sound like a stupid question
Jan 28 21:26:17 <thestringpuller>	i wanna make a bitvps order
Jan 28 21:26:44 <mjrIII>	what does it mean when he writes 3`802
Jan 28 21:26:50 <Namworld>	in your PM now
Jan 28 21:26:54 <kakobrekla>	gesell dont get rid of it in any case.
Jan 28 21:26:55 <gesell>	jurov: exactly. im trying to avoid day trading, only because i have other jobs that take a LOT of my time
Jan 28 21:26:56 <mjrIII>	does he mean ","
Jan 28 21:27:18 <kakobrekla>	gesell, holding it half of the job done.
Jan 28 21:27:21 <gesell>	so im learning the financial tools up to and until day trading
Jan 28 21:27:37 <kakobrekla>	its not like we are talking fiat.
Jan 28 21:27:44 <mjrIII>	lol
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Jan 28 21:28:20 <Namworld>	I take BTC and offer interest on it throught BTCT.co
Jan 28 21:28:27 <gesell>	kakobrekla: can you uncompress that for the lay man here? ;)
Jan 28 21:28:32 <Namworld>	Also
Jan 28 21:28:34 <Ukto>	hey Namworld
Jan 28 21:29:02 <kakobrekla>	gesell not-selling bitcoin is half of the investment job done.
Jan 28 21:29:14 <Ukto>	i was looking at btc-bond, and it says 29k shres are outstanding.. but theres more than 30k on the ask wall ?
Jan 28 21:29:22 <Ukto>	https://btct.co/security/BTC-BOND
Jan 28 21:29:53 <gesell>	kakobrekla: indeed. just seems stupid though when you could then take the btc and have further return on investment, to not do it
Jan 28 21:30:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.007395 = 1.479 BTC [+]
Jan 28 21:30:46 <kakobrekla>	well i was just trying to point out "or get rid of it, imo" is not wise prolly
Jan 28 21:30:58 <gesell>	where's the BTC centric ratings agency?
Jan 28 21:31:07 <kakobrekla>	a what
Jan 28 21:31:10 <thestringpuller>	gesell: WoT?
Jan 28 21:31:10 <Ukto>	who?
Jan 28 21:31:16 <jurov>	daytrading doesn't mean you have to babysit it, usually check once per day and set orders is OK
Jan 28 21:31:41 <gesell>	kakobrekla: yeah, not getting rid of it. just motivating myself to do something more with it. also because i believe in it and feel that to help i should explore more ways of using it rather than just sitting on it
Jan 28 21:31:45 <Namworld>	Ukto: so?
Jan 28 21:31:46 <mjrIII>	WOW nice charts on that site...
Jan 28 21:31:55 <Namworld>	There's 50k issued, 29k outstanding
Jan 28 21:31:57 <kakobrekla>	gesell, quit your job and start trading bitcoin
Jan 28 21:32:21 <Ukto>	Namworld: whats the difference between issued and oustanding in this case?
Jan 28 21:32:37 <Namworld>	issued is amount created.
Jan 28 21:32:45 <Namworld>	Outstanding is amount not held by issuer
Jan 28 21:32:46 <Ukto>	so the remainder just sits in your account?
Jan 28 21:32:49 <Ukto>	ah
Jan 28 21:32:58 <Namworld>	The large stack at 0.01 each is mine
Jan 28 21:33:04 <Namworld>	Higher is some other people
Jan 28 21:33:18 <Ukto>	i got ya
Jan 28 21:33:23 <Ukto>	thanks, was just trying to understand
Jan 28 21:33:59 <gesell>	kakobrekla: i love my job, and before 12 months ago friends would have considered me an open minded interesting type of passionate person. now with the amount of btc shit im doing they look at me like a rich mother fucker. so going all in to btc day trading is well, would have to just hang around models the rest of my life. beh
Jan 28 21:34:02 <mjrIII>	how are forward contracts enforced?
Jan 28 21:34:34 <gesell>	well not rich, but it sounds better :P
Jan 28 21:34:54 <mjrIII>	i mean...do you have to have the btc in your account until the contract expires?
Jan 28 21:35:23 <Namworld>	they're put in escrow when you create a contract
Jan 28 21:35:40 <Namworld>	so they can't be removed from the account anyway
Jan 28 21:35:53 <kakobrekla>	gesell, sound to me like 25btc fee is a non issue.
Jan 28 21:36:03 <mjrIII>	:( so really no feasible short option (not that i would be short in this market)...but still
Jan 28 21:36:40 <mjrIII>	ie...can't just locate the stock for a small fee (hard to borrow whatever) and then continue along investing your money
Jan 28 21:36:57 <gesell>	kakobrekla: yeah it is.
Jan 28 21:37:12 <gesell>	ot: also nice charts (just found them today) http://bitcoin-analytics.com/
Jan 28 21:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 556 @ 0.007395 = 4.1116 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 21:42:46 <mjrIII>	i think the credit market is lacking right now
Jan 28 21:42:50 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 28 21:42:52 <mjrIII>	for obvious reasons
Jan 28 21:42:54 <mjrIII>	lol
Jan 28 21:42:59 <Bugpowder>	another person on this topic today?
Jan 28 21:43:04 <Bugpowder>	do we need CDS?
Jan 28 21:43:05 <mjrIII>	but still...it really greases the wheels
Jan 28 21:43:24 <mjrIII>	oops sorry, didn't realize we had killed that horse and started to beat it
Jan 28 21:43:33 <Bugpowder>	its ok
Jan 28 21:44:00 <Bugpowder>	if we had credit, maybe BTC would be at $1
Jan 28 21:44:13 <Bugpowder>	instead of 18.8
Jan 28 21:44:24 <mjrIII>	ok, question...is there any really nice front end software (real time charts, level 2 data, order entry etc)
Jan 28 21:44:32 <Bugpowder>	for what?
Jan 28 21:44:33 <mjrIII>	bugpowder: very possible
Jan 28 21:44:47 <mjrIII>	for day trading...
Jan 28 21:45:00 <Bugpowder>	day trdaing what?
Jan 28 21:45:21 <mjrIII>	anything, probably mostly bitcoins directly...but also the equities and especially the options
Jan 28 21:45:21 <Bugpowder>	mtgox?
Jan 28 21:45:22 <jurov>	btc credit is quite easy, one just has to be circumspect or memetic about it.. like btcgem :D
Jan 28 21:45:24 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com
Jan 28 21:45:31 <Bugpowder>	is easy and donationware
Jan 28 21:45:38 <Bugpowder>	there is also a pay service
Jan 28 21:45:44 <Bugpowder>	that I don't use
Jan 28 21:46:06 <Bugpowder>	i cannot believe that dude took the gem down before 1000 btc. what a puss
Jan 28 21:46:08 <mjrIII>	it is very nice
Jan 28 21:46:22 <gesell>	mjrIII: does the sierra chart plugin give realtime?
Jan 28 21:46:35 <mjrIII>	what is btcgem? (do i want to know?)
Jan 28 21:46:50 <Bugpowder>	http://www.bitcoingem.com
Jan 28 21:46:56 <Bugpowder>	this was the hot topic of the weekend
Jan 28 21:47:05 <Bugpowder>	before the price really started ramping again.
Jan 28 21:47:47 <mjrIII>	ok...i don't know what sierra chart plugin is...but if that is what clarkmoody is using...its amazing
Jan 28 21:47:52 <Bugpowder>	also there are json feeds from mtgox, bitcoincharts, mpex, etc
Jan 28 21:47:54 <mjrIII>	but not exactly what i was talking about
Jan 28 21:48:10 <mod6>	I'm building an android app for mpex trading.
Jan 28 21:48:14 <mjrIII>	it is very very nice, from an informational standpoint...like an esignal
Jan 28 21:48:15 <Bugpowder>	you could script something in python or matlab
Jan 28 21:48:33 <Bugpowder>	clarkmoody is nice
Jan 28 21:48:33 <mod6>	with any luck, i'll have it out soon.  should have been done a while ago actually, just ran into time issues of working on it.
Jan 28 21:48:35 <mjrIII>	but i meant like connecting to the different brokers and exchanges...
Jan 28 21:48:36 <Bugpowder>	very simple
Jan 28 21:48:38 <Bugpowder>	and fast
Jan 28 21:48:46 <mjrIII>	DMA
Jan 28 21:48:46 <mjrIII>	lol
Jan 28 21:48:48 <gesell>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Sierra_Chart_MtGox_Bridge with http://www.sierrachart.com/  appears to rely on bitcoincharts.com
Jan 28 21:48:50 <Bugpowder>	it fucks up sometimes under heave load
Jan 28 21:48:50 <kakobrekla>	sierra chart is a pros chartists software
Jan 28 21:49:03 <kakobrekla>	slush made the mtgox to sierra bridge
Jan 28 21:49:09 <kakobrekla>	works fine
Jan 28 21:49:15 <Bugpowder>	http://mtgoxlive.com/orders
Jan 28 21:49:20 <Bugpowder>	is pretty
Jan 28 21:49:21 <gesell>	mjrIII: also see the bitcoin analytics site. charts arent amazing but connects and/or aggregates lots of exchanges
Jan 28 21:49:26 <Bugpowder>	though not very useful
Jan 28 21:49:39 <mjrIII>	yeah, that was the prob with clarkmoody
Jan 28 21:49:43 <mjrIII>	only mtgox data
Jan 28 21:49:54 <jurov>	actually i'd like to add daytrading features/interface to coinbr, if anyone wants to help me
Jan 28 21:49:55 <kakobrekla>	everything else follows
Jan 28 21:50:01 <kakobrekla>	mtgox sets the price
Jan 28 21:50:03 <Bugpowder>	who cares about anything other than gox?
Jan 28 21:50:05 <jurov>	but building anything over mpex api is a pain
Jan 28 21:50:07 <mjrIII>	ideally you would see all of them with their respective symbol...and then be able to lift asks
Jan 28 21:50:13 <dub>	theres some IRC channels with 'live' trades, #bitcoin-market #bitcoin-rt etc
Jan 28 21:50:18 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 28 21:50:19 <mjrIII>	yeah
Jan 28 21:50:23 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD_depth.html
Jan 28 21:50:28 <mjrIII>	that is what i meant by trading platform
Jan 28 21:50:35 <Bugpowder>	pyMPEX
Jan 28 21:50:39 <dub>	-market has everything on bitcoincharts iirc, -rt is gox only
Jan 28 21:50:43 <mjrIII>	ie. i can set up a hot key, and execute a trade
Jan 28 21:50:46 <Bugpowder>	or BugBot 0.3
Jan 28 21:50:49 <Bugpowder>	:)
Jan 28 21:51:07 <jurov>	bugbot is opensource?
Jan 28 21:51:09 <Bugpowder>	currently running
Jan 28 21:51:12 <Bugpowder>	fuck no
Jan 28 21:51:16 <jurov>	haha
Jan 28 21:51:19 <Bugpowder>	I will share for 1000 BTC
Jan 28 21:51:25 <Bugpowder>	my 8 hours of work
Jan 28 21:51:54 <mjrIII>	lol i was just googling bugbot...
Jan 28 21:51:57 <Bugpowder>	dudes, if we can take down the 18.77
Jan 28 21:51:59 <mjrIII>	could not find it
Jan 28 21:52:09 <Bugpowder>	hahah, that is my matlab script I wrote this weekend
Jan 28 21:52:12 <mjrIII>	did you see the depth at 21...
Jan 28 21:52:19 <Bugpowder>	nothing at 21
Jan 28 21:52:33 <mjrIII>	hmmm hold on...
Jan 28 21:52:35 <Bugpowder>	a littles
Jan 28 21:52:38 <Bugpowder>	20
Jan 28 21:52:41 <Bugpowder>	20 is the key
Jan 28 21:52:46 <Bugpowder>	the bifurcation
Jan 28 21:52:58 <Bugpowder>	if 20 goes, 30 is in play
Jan 28 21:53:01 <kakobrekla>	put your dollars to btc to help the cause
Jan 28 21:53:08 <jurov>	holy bifurcation
Jan 28 21:53:09 <Bugpowder>	ha!
Jan 28 21:53:16 <dub>	no, sell all bitcions now
Jan 28 21:53:19 <Bugpowder>	I have enough in coins now
Jan 28 21:53:26 <Bugpowder>	dub, are you STILL short?
Jan 28 21:53:31 <mjrIII>	think it went to 20 now
Jan 28 21:53:33 <dub>	panic
Jan 28 21:53:38 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 28 21:53:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.72001, Best ask: 18.76998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 18.76998, 24 hour volume: 59239.88231180, 24 hour low: 17.81000, 24 hour high: 18.88000, 24 hour vwap: 18.39440
Jan 28 21:53:47 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 19
Jan 28 21:53:49 <gribble>	There are currently 6319.8134 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 119553.638768 USD in total.
Jan 28 21:53:54 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 18
Jan 28 21:53:56 <gribble>	There are currently 12917.573 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 236067.469276 USD in total.
Jan 28 21:53:58 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Jan 28 21:54:02 <Bugpowder>	grr, asks are up from 4500 earlier
Jan 28 21:54:21 <dub>	Bugpowder: not long enough anyway (that isn't what she said)
Jan 28 21:54:24 <mjrIII>	lol, that is quite the imbalance
Jan 28 21:54:25 <Bugpowder>	oh that's a nice link
Jan 28 21:54:37 <Bugpowder>	much faster than the page or mtgoxlive
Jan 28 21:54:38 <kakobrekla>	yeah i have it on me all the time
Jan 28 21:54:42 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 28 21:55:00 <mjrIII>	how are you liking matlabs...
Jan 28 21:55:06 <mjrIII>	bug: btw
Jan 28 21:55:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00065813 = 8.6544 BTC [-]
Jan 28 21:55:11 <Bugpowder>	matlab?
Jan 28 21:55:15 <mjrIII>	yes
Jan 28 21:55:16 <mjrIII>	lol
Jan 28 21:55:18 <Bugpowder>	I use it professionally
Jan 28 21:55:23 <mjrIII>	i figured
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Jan 28 21:55:25 <Bugpowder>	so I am comfortable in it
Jan 28 21:55:39 <mjrIII>	I was playing around with R a little bit, but not quite ready to leave python
Jan 28 21:56:18 <mjrIII>	python has some really sick quant libraries
Jan 28 21:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.007395 = 1.479 BTC [+]
Jan 28 21:57:00 <Bugpowder>	R is fine, python is fine
Jan 28 21:57:23 <mod6>	depends on what you mean by fine
Jan 28 21:57:58 <Bugpowder>	powerful
Jan 28 21:57:58 <mod6>	if by fine you mean pita, then yeah! :P
Jan 28 21:58:04 <Bugpowder>	matlab is easy
Jan 28 21:58:16 <Bugpowder>	and powerful
Jan 28 21:58:27 <Bugpowder>	some people say it does things stupid ways
Jan 28 21:58:42 <Bugpowder>	and the graphics function handle system is antiquated
Jan 28 22:00:10 <Bugpowder>	but they just keep improving and extending it
Jan 28 22:00:12 <mjrIII>	mod6: what does pita mean?
Jan 28 22:00:25 <mod6>	.ud pita
Jan 28 22:00:51 <mod6>	pain in the ass
Jan 28 22:01:48 <mjrIII>	um...python pain in the ass? i am not a huge fan of it...but i have never heard it called a pain in the ass
Jan 28 22:01:57 <Bugpowder>	uhhh
Jan 28 22:01:59 <Bugpowder>	wrong
Jan 28 22:02:09 <mjrIII>	it's like...easy enough to do things quickly, but powerful enough to do them well...
Jan 28 22:02:13 <Bugpowder>	there are some really shitty libraries
Jan 28 22:02:14 <mod6>	*shrug* i think its painful lol
Jan 28 22:02:16 <mjrIII>	you can write any module in c++
Jan 28 22:02:18 <mjrIII>	oh well yeah
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Jan 28 22:02:26 <mjrIII>	of course there are shitty libraries
Jan 28 22:02:27 <mjrIII>	lol
Jan 28 22:02:39 <Bugpowder>	pygame is a clusterfuck
Jan 28 22:02:57 <Bugpowder>	and OSX has its own python
Jan 28 22:03:01 <mjrIII>	but for instance...I can use R, matlab, tons of monte carlo markov chain stuff, graphing...
Jan 28 22:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4548 @ 0.00065813 = 2.9932 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:03:06 <mjrIII>	wrappers for everything
Jan 28 22:03:24 <Bugpowder>	so I have had real problems building certain programs
Jan 28 22:03:29 <kakobrekla>	malbolge ftw.
Jan 28 22:03:31 <Bugpowder>	matlab just works
Jan 28 22:03:55 <mod6>	rally
Jan 28 22:04:03 <mod6>	;;ticker
Jan 28 22:04:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.82689, Best ask: 18.92465, Bid-ask spread: 0.09776, Last trade: 18.82689, 24 hour volume: 63356.74122190, 24 hour low: 17.81000, 24 hour high: 18.98210, 24 hour vwap: 18.42724
Jan 28 22:04:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 30 @ 0.34 = 10.2 BTC [+]
Jan 28 22:04:24 <mjrIII>	yeah i could see that...but its not free right?
Jan 28 22:05:04 <thestringpuller>	this again
Jan 28 22:05:05 <thestringpuller>	pushing to 19
Jan 28 22:05:07 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 20
Jan 28 22:05:09 <gribble>	There are currently 20250.28 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 395802.781918 USD in total.
Jan 28 22:05:10 <mjrIII>	there is open cl and cuda in python...i'm sure its in matlab also
Jan 28 22:05:14 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 17
Jan 28 22:05:16 <gribble>	There are currently 28705.188 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 510868.242149 USD in total.
Jan 28 22:05:33 <jurov>	;;asks 19
Jan 28 22:05:35 <gribble>	There are currently 2395.6045 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 45507.9893803 USD in total.
Jan 28 22:05:35 <Bugpowder>	any private tracker has cracked versions
Jan 28 22:05:42 <Bugpowder>	though mine is legit
Jan 28 22:05:49 <mjrIII>	lol, yeah
Jan 28 22:06:04 <gesell>	the issue isnt python, its great. just missing a lot of math primitives that one has in matlab. so you have to run around in R bindings or whatever else you are going to use in python trying to find them or build them from scratch and at some point, getting the edu license of matlab is just way easier. had this issue when trying to deal with image adjustments (for stiching) in python vs matlab
Jan 28 22:06:07 <mod6>	1541 @ 19.0
Jan 28 22:06:28 <mod6>	800 to 19.0
Jan 28 22:06:41 <mjrIII>	makes sense, thanks gesell
Jan 28 22:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6561 @ 0.00065813 = 4.318 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:06:58 <mjrIII>	have either of you guys used fpga's at all?
Jan 28 22:07:08 <mod6>	not yet :/
Jan 28 22:07:28 <mjrIII>	just figured i'd ask since parallel computing and math go hand in hand
Jan 28 22:07:28 <mod6>	im hoping to get into that this year ... if any of these guys can deliver lol
Jan 28 22:07:37 <mjrIII>	i have a board i can play with
Jan 28 22:07:41 <mjrIII>	and my buddy knows vhdl
Jan 28 22:07:42 <Bugpowder>	shit... I don't have finance package in my legit matlab.
Jan 28 22:07:45 <mjrIII>	so that is our project
Jan 28 22:07:52 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 28 22:07:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.82690, Best ask: 18.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07309, Last trade: 18.82689, 24 hour volume: 63487.87292943, 24 hour low: 17.81000, 24 hour high: 18.98210, 24 hour vwap: 18.42884
Jan 28 22:07:54 <Bugpowder>	!!
Jan 28 22:07:58 <Bugpowder>	BREAK ON THRU
Jan 28 22:07:59 <kakobrekla>	fpga is dead
Jan 28 22:08:01 <gesell>	mjrIII: id like to learn. havent had the chance
Jan 28 22:08:02 <Bugpowder>	oh fuck yes
Jan 28 22:08:08 <mjrIII>	fortunately or unfortunately...its a virtex 6...and all i can find is for spartans...
Jan 28 22:08:17 <Bugpowder>	green candle
Jan 28 22:08:42 <Bugpowder>	18.98
Jan 28 22:08:43 <mjrIII>	think my work has like 3 or 4 of those boards i can play with :)
Jan 28 22:09:16 <mjrIII>	but...and looking back you guys were probably right...last time we tried the python interface wouldn't work LOL
Jan 28 22:09:18 <gesell>	yeah grab a spartan, there are tons of projects for them.
Jan 28 22:09:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5197 @ 0.00065813 = 3.4203 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:09:33 <mjrIII>	i know :( but i have virtex 6's already...FREE...
Jan 28 22:09:51 <mjrIII>	so i think we are going to do the whole thing from scratch violating my favorite rule DRY
Jan 28 22:10:22 <mjrIII>	or should i say don't repeat others...
Jan 28 22:10:36 <mjrIII>	but learning project at least
Jan 28 22:10:39 <kakobrekla>	spartan 6 at 200mhash will give you 0.9 btc a month current difficulty
Jan 28 22:10:48 <kakobrekla>	and its going only down from here
Jan 28 22:11:00 <mjrIII>	yeah...once the damn asics (if?) show up
Jan 28 22:11:18 <gesell>	well here is your sha256 vhld core, start mining : P http://opencores.org/websvn,filedetails?repname=nfhc&path=%2Fnfhc%2Ftrunk%2Fsha256%2Fsha256.vhdl
Jan 28 22:11:18 <kakobrekla>	here the profitability chart for better vizualization http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php
Jan 28 22:11:48 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 28 22:11:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.84313, Best ask: 18.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05686, Last trade: 18.92999, 24 hour volume: 63608.48683333, 24 hour low: 17.81000, 24 hour high: 18.98210, 24 hour vwap: 18.42996
Jan 28 22:11:51 <mjrIII>	virtex-6 was the high end FPGA for a while, they just released the 7 i believe
Jan 28 22:11:52 <kakobrekla>	0.9 was too much
Jan 28 22:12:08 <kakobrekla>	err too little
Jan 28 22:12:10 <mjrIII>	so hoping that i can get more than that
Jan 28 22:12:11 <kakobrekla>	1.2 btc currently
Jan 28 22:12:25 <mod6>	kakobrekla: yeah, i think it'd still be worth it.  concidering the upside...
Jan 28 22:12:29 <mjrIII>	but no one has done any projects on a virtex-6 yet that i could see
Jan 28 22:12:30 <mod6>	*considering
Jan 28 22:12:39 <kakobrekla>	depends on what you mean worth it
Jan 28 22:12:48 <kakobrekla>	if shit falls done in your hands for free
Jan 28 22:12:49 <mjrIII>	well...free electricity plus board...and then factor my time...yeah worth it
Jan 28 22:12:52 <kakobrekla>	its worth running it
Jan 28 22:12:54 <kakobrekla>	maybe yeah
Jan 28 22:12:54 <mod6>	haha. i suppose it depends on power/cost
Jan 28 22:12:56 <kakobrekla>	other than that
Jan 28 22:12:58 <kakobrekla>	doubt it
Jan 28 22:13:00 <mod6>	right.
Jan 28 22:13:02 <mod6>	i hear you.
Jan 28 22:13:11 <mod6>	*shrug* figured it was worth a shot this year.
Jan 28 22:13:13 <mjrIII>	i mean, it is fun anyway
Jan 28 22:13:19 <mod6>	^^^
Jan 28 22:13:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2587 @ 0.00065813 = 1.7026 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:13:58 <mod6>	fuck I am a bad speller
Jan 28 22:14:30 <gesell>	mjrIII: porting one of the bitcoin fpga projects might make for good fun and learning. or at least a bit before throwing your hands up and buying a spartan
Jan 28 22:14:32 <mjrIII>	FPGA gets good efficiency as far as power...but it is a drop in the bucket in a data center
Jan 28 22:14:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00065828 = 1.514 BTC [+]
Jan 28 22:14:48 <mjrIII>	yeah...not doing that, i'd just buy the bitcoins directly
Jan 28 22:15:48 <dub>	im sure someone had a virtex6 mining
Jan 28 22:15:50 <mjrIII>	the problem is going to be scaling it to a bigger board i think...so we can take advantage of the extra LUT's (if that is the correct term....)
Jan 28 22:16:01 <mjrIII>	if they do, they haven't open sourced it yet
Jan 28 22:16:18 <mjrIII>	or even really mentioned it in the first 5 pages of google yet
Jan 28 22:16:28 <mjrIII>	not even on list of hardware for fpga mining :(
Jan 28 22:16:39 <mjrIII>	but i think that's cuz no one would buy one for that purpose
Jan 28 22:17:02 <dub>	I seem to recall it mentioned in the customer hardware forum on bitcointalk but the search sucks
Jan 28 22:17:15 <dub>	custom*
Jan 28 22:17:23 <mjrIII>	yeah...$2k for the evaluation board
Jan 28 22:17:40 <mjrIII>	which is not completely crazy...but like $600 for spartan back in the day
Jan 28 22:17:46 <mjrIII>	i think
Jan 28 22:18:08 <mjrIII>	luckily, again, that is a drop in the bucket in finance...lol
Jan 28 22:18:18 <mjrIII>	they scrapped the whole project
Jan 28 22:18:47 <dub>	how many have you got? :)
Jan 28 22:18:50 <mjrIII>	supposed to parse the market data from all the exchanges in real time on the metal
Jan 28 22:18:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00065828 = 1.514 BTC [+]
Jan 28 22:19:03 <mjrIII>	not sure exactly, i think 3 or 4...
Jan 28 22:19:12 <mjrIII>	but i'm not sure if all were virtex 6's
Jan 28 22:20:10 <mjrIII>	but seriously...at 29 m/hashes...even pooling is not doing much
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Jan 28 22:20:18 <mjrIII>	which is what my gpu is getting right now
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Jan 28 22:20:52 <dub>	thats... CPU territory :)
Jan 28 22:20:53 <mjrIII>	so, if i can create a cluster of them, it would be well worth it to try and port it
Jan 28 22:21:02 <mjrIII>	yeah...thanks nvidia
Jan 28 22:21:08 <mod6>	heheh
Jan 28 22:21:35 <dub>	well yes, I would say if you had tens or hundreds of even modest pga's it _might_ be worth looking into
Jan 28 22:21:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5457 @ 0.00065813 = 3.5914 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:21:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2075 @ 0.00065149 = 1.3518 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:21:55 <mjrIII>	like i said, fun learning project
Jan 28 22:22:24 <mjrIII>	and hopefully will help with my dream of starting the opposite of mpex
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Jan 28 22:24:01 <kakobrekla>	the opposite of mpex, you mean glbse?
Jan 28 22:24:09 <mod6>	haha
Jan 28 22:24:26 <mjrIII>	hmmm not sure what that is
Jan 28 22:24:33 <mjrIII>	unless you just did some inversion
Jan 28 22:24:34 <mjrIII>	lol
Jan 28 22:24:37 <dub>	well since some fucking assholes helpfully called their exchange virtex it might take reading every god forsaken post on that pfurm to find but I think I recall someone released code for them
Jan 28 22:24:51 <mjrIII>	LOL
Jan 28 22:24:58 <mjrIII>	yes, i was going crazy searching
Jan 28 22:25:04 <mjrIII>	i originally thought about this like a year ago
Jan 28 22:25:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6492 @ 0.00065149 = 4.2295 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:25:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2818 @ 0.00065109 = 1.8348 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:25:14 <mjrIII>	but got distracted and just recently got back into bitcoin mining
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Jan 28 22:25:54 <mjrIII>	kako: and no...i mean a pink sheet company which emulates an ETF whereby I could allow people on wall street the option to invest in BitCoins...
Jan 28 22:26:07 <Bugpowder>	oh dude
Jan 28 22:26:11 <mjrIII>	using the same systems that they have in place now
Jan 28 22:26:17 <Bugpowder>	I should probably do that
Jan 28 22:26:21 <mjrIII>	you should
Jan 28 22:26:25 <Bugpowder>	instead of sicence
Jan 28 22:26:27 <mjrIII>	as long as someone does i will be happy
Jan 28 22:26:42 <DeadWeasel_>	just another commodity?
Jan 28 22:26:42 <mjrIII>	because once they get a taste of sweet bitcoinage...a lot of money could flow into it
Jan 28 22:26:43 <Bugpowder>	obviously anyone that owns coins will be happy their value goes up 10x
Jan 28 22:26:46 <mjrIII>	exactly
Jan 28 22:26:49 <mjrIII>	yes
Jan 28 22:27:08 <mjrIII>	well...i saw a segment on a european fun which invests in watches
Jan 28 22:27:13 <mjrIII>	*fund
Jan 28 22:27:14 <Bugpowder>	oh to have calls options the day the ETF opens
Jan 28 22:27:19 <mjrIII>	LOL
Jan 28 22:27:32 <mjrIII>	i mean hopefully it could work its way up to be on OTCBB
Jan 28 22:27:51 <mjrIII>	though i doubt it could get onto a main exchange cuz of SEC filing crap
Jan 28 22:28:07 <mjrIII>	but I don't see a reason why someone couldn't say it isn't a currency exchange
Jan 28 22:28:13 <mjrIII>	its a commodity exchange
Jan 28 22:28:23 <Diablo-D3>	it IS a commodity exchange
Jan 28 22:28:24 <kakobrekla>	a virtual somethingsomething.
Jan 28 22:28:27 <mjrIII>	like i could invest in rare star wars action figures
Jan 28 22:28:36 <DeadWeasel_>	that idea is definitely worth writing down and returning to every week.  that and a ton of research.
Jan 28 22:28:38 <mjrIII>	and start a company which holds and tracks their values
Jan 28 22:28:41 <Diablo-D3>	by US law, Bitcoins are non-monetary virtual commodities
Jan 28 22:28:42 <mjrIII>	yeds
Jan 28 22:28:46 <mjrIII>	been doing that all night
Jan 28 22:28:51 <mjrIII>	part of the reason i am here
Jan 28 22:28:51 <mjrIII>	lol
Jan 28 22:28:55 <mjrIII>	but i think it is possible
Jan 28 22:29:11 <mjrIII>	at least, i haven't found any glaring reasons why it couldn't at least be the super sketchy pink stocks
Jan 28 22:29:24 <mjrIII>	which you have to sign a disclaimer before a broker will let you buy them
Jan 28 22:29:34 <mjrIII>	but then you get access
Jan 28 22:29:41 <DeadWeasel_>	keep looking.  there will be reasons, but you could call them 'features'
Jan 28 22:29:44 <mjrIII>	build up WoT in the real financial markets
Jan 28 22:30:16 <mjrIII>	did anyone read the bloomberg article about the ECB's report on bitcoins?
Jan 28 22:30:45 <mjrIII>	finance guys love exotic instruments
Jan 28 22:30:52 <mjrIII>	and it is a natural hedge to the dollar
Jan 28 22:31:42 <Diablo-D3>	finance guys jerk off to exotic instruments
Jan 28 22:31:48 <mjrIII>	yes they do
Jan 28 22:31:49 <Diablo-D3>	forbes as ran repeated bitcoin articles
Jan 28 22:31:52 <mjrIII>	specifically swaps
Jan 28 22:31:54 <Diablo-D3>	*has
Jan 28 22:32:15 <mjrIII>	hmmm...think mpex will get swaps anytime soon?
Jan 28 22:32:24 <mjrIII>	lol
Jan 28 22:33:04 <mjrIII>	also...i am really hoping to see it break $19 tonight
Jan 28 22:33:07 <mjrIII>	:)
Jan 28 22:34:00 <dub>	heh http://edroso.tumblr.com/post/41754685117/thedailywhat-accidentally-of-the-day-indecent
Jan 28 22:34:31 <Diablo-D3>	I suspect I dont have my ports forwarded correctly
Jan 28 22:34:58 <DeadWeasel_>	Vine Porn.  classic.  Editor's Pick!
Jan 28 22:35:18 <dub>	yes well most of us aim for the front port but rear port entry is gaining momentum
Jan 28 22:35:24 <kakobrekla>	Editors prick.
Jan 28 22:36:17 <DeadWeasel_>	dub,stop talking dirty.
Jan 28 22:36:25 <dub>	he started it
Jan 28 22:36:32 <DeadWeasel_>	there are ladies here.
Jan 28 22:36:36 <DeadWeasel_>	oh, nevermind.
Jan 28 22:36:44 <dub>	ladies? on my internet?
Jan 28 22:36:44 <mjrIII>	lol
Jan 28 22:36:50 <dub>	never!
Jan 28 22:36:53 <mjrIII>	are thre really ladies here?
Jan 28 22:36:54 <mjrIII>	i kinda doubt that
Jan 28 22:37:33 <DeadWeasel_>	there are none
Jan 28 22:37:45 <mjrIII>	are you guys in bitcoin-market too?
Jan 28 22:37:50 <mjrIII>	saw a weird print
Jan 28 22:37:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19782 @ 0.00065109 = 12.8799 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:37:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7252 @ 0.00065049 = 4.7174 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:38:12 <DeadWeasel_>	paste it
Jan 28 22:38:28 <Bugpowder>	wow
Jan 28 22:38:30 <mjrIII>	<+amphipod> Jan29 05:31:43 cbx               8.6000 @    18.98       USD
Jan 28 22:38:43 <mjrIII>	all the others had time of 3:31...
Jan 28 22:38:46 <Bugpowder>	bitcoincharts is great
Jan 28 22:38:52 <Bugpowder>	different exchage?
Jan 28 22:38:58 <mjrIII>	oh, maybe
Jan 28 22:38:59 <Bugpowder>	local time?
Jan 28 22:39:16 <mjrIII>	thought they would all be switched to local or GMT
Jan 28 22:39:18 <mjrIII>	eh
Jan 28 22:39:31 <mjrIII>	just noticed cuz it was $0.02 away from 19
Jan 28 22:39:40 <mjrIII>	exciting
Jan 28 22:39:47 <Bugpowder>	I cannot believe that I can enter in a URL and get 77MB of historical mtgox trade data in csv format in 10 seconds from bitcoincharts, then pull it into matlab, in like 1 minute.
Jan 28 22:39:48 <Bugpowder>	yesss
Jan 28 22:40:13 <kakobrekla>	techology.
Jan 28 22:40:16 <kakobrekla>	you are great.
Jan 28 22:40:17 <mjrIII>	that is pretty sweet
Jan 28 22:40:28 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: thats how I ran predictinator
Jan 28 22:40:29 <Bugpowder>	sweet and free
Jan 28 22:40:34 <mjrIII>	are you doing some algo stuff?
Jan 28 22:40:39 <Bugpowder>	that is really the difference with the bitcoin community
Jan 28 22:40:43 <Bugpowder>	so much shit is free
Jan 28 22:40:47 <mjrIII>	yes true
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Jan 28 22:41:02 <DeadWeasel_>	goodnight friendly people.  remind the russians to get us to 32 tonight.  adios.
Jan 28 22:41:09 <mjrIII>	lol, yay
Jan 28 22:41:10 <Bugpowder>	I had to pay a pakistani $350 to scrape a neighborhood of realestate data for me.
Jan 28 22:41:14 <kakobrekla>	russians are broke
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Jan 28 22:41:35 <dub>	bit of clock drift on btce there
Jan 28 22:42:33 <mjrIII>	yeah, wow
Jan 28 22:42:46 <mjrIII>	you gotta love this though, these spreads are huge
Jan 28 22:43:35 <mjrIII>	i mean wow, 34..75...55...
Jan 28 22:43:38 <kakobrekla>	spreads are fucked cause fees are fucked
Jan 28 22:43:45 <mjrIII>	yeah...
Jan 28 22:44:13 <mjrIII>	is mt gox the cheapest?
Jan 28 22:44:33 <mjrIII>	whoops ignore that
Jan 28 22:44:35 <mjrIII>	most expensive
Jan 28 22:45:04 <mjrIII>	you could...omg...you could just buy elsewhere and sell on mt gox and make a nice return i think
Jan 28 22:45:40 <kakobrekla>	do the math
Jan 28 22:46:13 <kakobrekla>	it mostly doesnt work.
Jan 28 22:46:18 <kakobrekla>	at least not anymore.
Jan 28 22:47:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3026 @ 0.00065828 = 1.992 BTC [+]
Jan 28 22:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9724 @ 0.00065847 = 6.403 BTC [+]
Jan 28 22:48:03 <gesell>	how does one go about learning more and evaluating the market place on btct.to?
Jan 28 22:48:33 <dub>	with a very long stick
Jan 28 22:48:53 <gesell>	:/
Jan 28 22:49:28 <mjrIII>	gesell: it looked interesting to me
Jan 28 22:50:15 <mjrIII>	ok, i think i just confused myself...what is the "cool" way of buying bitcoins?
Jan 28 22:50:19 <Bugpowder>	gesell, the only assets worth investing in are on mpex.
Jan 28 22:50:20 <dub>	its one of a few brand new exchanges that sprung up in the spectacular implosion of the previous most 'popular' exchange GLBSE
Jan 28 22:50:23 <gesell>	im trying to evaluate history as well as return on investment (dividents i guess)
Jan 28 22:50:26 <mjrIII>	ie. what do you guys usually do if going to buy
Jan 28 22:51:03 <Namworld>	Bugpowder: what?
Jan 28 22:51:15 <Bugpowder>	the MPBOR is also maybe ok
Jan 28 22:51:19 <Namworld>	but BTC-BOND and soon BitVPS will be on BTCT.co =/
Jan 28 22:51:22 <gesell>	i suppose the dividends data is all there but history and trust worthyness a different story
Jan 28 22:51:22 <Bugpowder>	though I think its a total ripoff
Jan 28 22:51:26 <dub>	gesell: problem is there is no history, most of the entities listed on the old glbse platform were a joke, scam or both. plenty have ported directly over to the new exhcnages
Jan 28 22:51:45 <Bugpowder>	a few are not scams
Jan 28 22:51:50 <Bugpowder>	but will probably depreciate
Jan 28 22:51:53 <gesell>	dub exactly, so finding an investment that is not a scam seems to be a risk
Jan 28 22:52:01 <Bugpowder>	Satoshi dice dude
Jan 28 22:52:12 <Namworld>	BTC-BOND
Jan 28 22:52:14 <Bugpowder>	you only need to worry about regulatory risk
Jan 28 22:52:27 <Bugpowder>	but they are on pace for 1,000,000 BTC bet this month
Jan 28 22:52:31 <Bugpowder>	1.9% EV
Jan 28 22:53:00 <dub>	personally I think thats quite a valid worry
Jan 28 22:53:09 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 19000/.0075/100000000
Jan 28 22:53:09 <gribble>	0.0253333333333
Jan 28 22:53:15 <Bugpowder>	fuck yes its valid
Jan 28 22:53:18 <Bugpowder>	thats why I sold it
Jan 28 22:53:22 <Bugpowder>	but
Jan 28 22:53:23 <Bugpowder>	damn
Jan 28 22:53:27 <Bugpowder>	1MM coins bet
Jan 28 22:53:34 <Bugpowder>	its still undervalued right now
Jan 28 22:53:41 <Bugpowder>	even with the risk premium
Jan 28 22:53:51 <Bugpowder>	imho
Jan 28 22:54:01 <Bugpowder>	I need capital for options market making
Jan 28 22:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 34 @ 0.77 = 26.18 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:54:09 <Namworld>	Would still take 35 months to get all back
Jan 28 22:54:16 <Bugpowder>	Namworld
Jan 28 22:54:19 <Namworld>	in dividends. Not bad
Jan 28 22:54:21 <Bugpowder>	I already made it all back
Jan 28 22:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1631 @ 0.00065049 = 1.0609 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:54:28 <Bugpowder>	in capital appreciation
Jan 28 22:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5155 @ 0.00065031 = 3.3523 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065025 = 6.5025 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7214 @ 0.00065011 = 4.6899 BTC [-]
Jan 28 22:54:31 <Bugpowder>	and then some
Jan 28 22:54:45 <Bugpowder>	cannot ignore that
Jan 28 22:54:57 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 28 22:54:59 <Bugpowder>	AAPL didn't get bought for its dividends
Jan 28 22:55:07 <mjrIII>	lol appl got killed
Jan 28 22:55:11 <mod6>	shit, AAPL was on autobuy
Jan 28 22:55:15 <gesell>	Namworld: trying to figure out what you are actually asking cash for ;)
Jan 28 22:55:32 <mjrIII>	yes it was
Jan 28 22:55:57 <mjrIII>	last week was a GREAT week for straddles :)
Jan 28 22:56:12 <mjrIII>	netflix and aapl both went crazy
Jan 28 22:56:24 <Diablo-D3>	netflix was nice, yes
Jan 28 22:56:30 <mjrIII>	insane
Jan 28 22:56:37 <Diablo-D3>	40+% increase
Jan 28 22:57:11 <Bugpowder>	how much did the straddles cost?
Jan 28 22:57:14 <Namworld>	Personal expenses, trading on MPEx, BitVPS, anything goes
Jan 28 22:57:35 <Namworld>	BTC-BOND should be considered a personal loan.
Jan 28 22:57:40 <mjrIII>	was that all? it touched over $170
Jan 28 22:57:44 <Namworld>	But I mostly use it to trade
Jan 28 22:57:57 <mjrIII>	think it was around $100 before earnings
Jan 28 22:58:43 <mod6>	it was
Jan 28 22:58:43 <dub>	Namworld: thats about as transparent as pirate imo
Jan 28 22:58:55 <gesell>	Namworld: gotchya
Jan 28 22:59:00 <gesell>	fair enough
Jan 28 22:59:02 <mjrIII>	i THINK that the straddle would have cost you around 12-13 bucks but i don't really remember...
Jan 28 22:59:16 <mjrIII>	could have been more
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Jan 28 22:59:22 <mjrIII>	either way, it payed off huge
Jan 28 22:59:26 <gesell>	he states it pretty clearly on bitcointalk, so people know what they are getting into
Jan 28 22:59:32 <gesell>	fare in my book, but not for the weak at heart i guess
Jan 28 23:00:04 <gesell>	sadly not for me. still learning and looking for more clear investments
Jan 28 23:00:11 <Bugpowder>	Its tricky right now.  The easy money has been made in mpex
Jan 28 23:00:30 <Bugpowder>	but increasing interest and deposits may continue to push prices higher
Jan 28 23:00:33 <smickles>	kakobrekla: thanks for the mentions :)
Jan 28 23:00:40 <Bugpowder>	there isn't that many securities to chase
Jan 28 23:01:37 <gesell>	Bugpowder: so what does one do, wait for some legit asic mining coops with dividents to pop up for private investment?
Jan 28 23:01:50 <gesell>	Bugpowder: go to roap and invest in satoshi for dividends?
Jan 28 23:02:00 <gesell>	s/satoshi/sdice
Jan 28 23:02:33 <smickles>	jeez, is SD really up 15000 BTC this month?
Jan 28 23:03:54 <Namworld>	dub: yeah, but I don't claim it to be a proxy investing or take 100 000s of BTC
Jan 28 23:04:01 <smickles>	;;calc 15000/100000000
Jan 28 23:04:01 <gribble>	0.00015
Jan 28 23:04:25 <smickles>	;;calc 15000/100000000/.007395
Jan 28 23:04:25 <gribble>	0.0202839756592
Jan 28 23:04:40 <Namworld>	2%
Jan 28 23:04:41 <smickles>	wtf is this bonkers shit
Jan 28 23:04:51 <Namworld>	less than last month I believe
Jan 28 23:05:05 <Namworld>	price was lower and 17000 BTC profit
Jan 28 23:05:14 <Namworld>	Still good
Jan 28 23:05:15 <gesell>	smickles: by this month you mean january? are there figures out already?
Jan 28 23:05:17 <smickles>	and why did i ever sell the shares I bought at ~.00001
Jan 28 23:05:18 <kakobrekla>	gesell if you are contemplating in investing in asic mining coops, i know of something interesting, one level higher.
Jan 28 23:06:03 <Bugpowder>	smickles
Jan 28 23:06:05 <Bugpowder>	20000
Jan 28 23:06:15 <dub>	kakobrekla: is it a bridge?
Jan 28 23:06:21 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: oh?
Jan 28 23:06:24 <kakobrekla>	a what
Jan 28 23:06:25 <gesell>	kakobrekla: i wont be investing in any until the asics are actual out and im not looking to invest in one ground up. more like supporting a reputable and stable one once it is already going
Jan 28 23:06:26 <Bugpowder>	gesell  do not invest in mining corps
Jan 28 23:06:41 <Bugpowder>	unless you want to lose
Jan 28 23:07:05 <kakobrekla>	agreed, corps in the this sense are bad idea
Jan 28 23:07:13 <kakobrekla>	gesell dont worry about it then.
Jan 28 23:07:30 <smickles>	it's not a fool proof theory, but if there is money in (bitcoin) asics, why hasn't intel been making them?
Jan 28 23:07:48 <Diablo-D3>	because not enough money for them
Jan 28 23:07:56 <kakobrekla>	mostly.
Jan 28 23:08:00 <smickles>	then amd
Jan 28 23:08:03 <smickles>	;P
Jan 28 23:08:03 <Diablo-D3>	and theres only one outside company that fabs at intel fabs, and they make fpgas
Jan 28 23:08:09 <Diablo-D3>	actuallllyyyyy
Jan 28 23:08:13 <Diablo-D3>	AMD knows about bitcoin
Jan 28 23:08:21 <Diablo-D3>	in their GCN press release, it mentions mining
Jan 28 23:08:40 <Namworld>	linky plz
Jan 28 23:09:00 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: its very old news
Jan 28 23:09:00 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,diff
Jan 28 23:09:01 <gribble>	3249549.5844872
Jan 28 23:09:03 <smickles>	i'm not all that impressed with a mention in a press release :P
Jan 28 23:09:05 <Diablo-D3>	GCN came out over a year ago
Jan 28 23:09:06 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Jan 28 23:09:17 <Namworld>	ah well...
Jan 28 23:09:22 <Diablo-D3>	says something like "folding and mining" under the compute section
Jan 28 23:09:43 <Bugpowder>	gesell http://brainwindows.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mpexschematic.jpg
Jan 28 23:10:11 <smickles>	haha
Jan 28 23:10:37 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow, ASICs _is_ a business
Jan 28 23:10:48 <Diablo-D3>	there are companies that are fabless design houses
Jan 28 23:10:56 <Diablo-D3>	they make up ASIC designs and license them to other people
Jan 28 23:11:01 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: ASICS aren't really a business yet
Jan 28 23:11:06 <Diablo-D3>	and then there are also companies that actually fab the ASICs
Jan 28 23:11:14 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: that would have been a valid statement in the early 70s
Jan 28 23:11:34 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: are you talking about asics in general? or just bitcoin asics?
Jan 28 23:11:52 <dub>	one would hope ASIC in general
Jan 28 23:11:58 <thestringpuller>	You would need all the bitcoins in existence to pay for some fabriations though to build an asic at any time period...
Jan 28 23:12:02 <Diablo-D3>	asics in general
Jan 28 23:12:05 <gesell>	Bugpowder: general but okay. thanks
Jan 28 23:12:12 <smickles>	'cause I tried to specify that we should be talking about bitcoin asics
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Jan 28 23:12:22 <Diablo-D3>	bitcoin asics "arent"
Jan 28 23:12:28 <Diablo-D3>	they're just a sea of licensed sha256 cores.
Jan 28 23:12:35 <smickles>	it's rather pointless to be talking about the general state of asics
Jan 28 23:12:40 <Diablo-D3>	no one has done bitcoin optimized sha256 asics yet
Jan 28 23:12:50 <Diablo-D3>	so our asics ARE general
Jan 28 23:12:50 <gesell>	there is  a nice right up on this topic somewhere in bitcoin.stackexchange
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Jan 28 23:13:07 <jcpham>	i'm just waiting to see what funny thing dub will say next
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Jan 28 23:13:39 <gesell>	http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/103/whats-the-difference-between-an-asic-and-an-fpga-which-is-better-for-mining
Jan 28 23:13:41 <gesell>	second answer
Jan 28 23:13:43 <Diablo-D3>	avalon, asicminer, basic, bfl
Jan 28 23:13:53 <gesell>	describes cost and different means of making an asic
Jan 28 23:13:53 <Diablo-D3>	all used licensed sha256 IP cores
Jan 28 23:14:03 <dub>	whats the drama with avalon anyway
Jan 28 23:14:11 <Diablo-D3>	dub: hasnt shipped yet
Jan 28 23:14:19 <dub>	they cut (or not cut in theis case) and run?
Jan 28 23:14:28 <Diablo-D3>	I dont think so
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Jan 28 23:14:30 <jcpham>	also which miner developer gets it first
Jan 28 23:14:35 <Diablo-D3>	they're having trouble getting the boards into the US
Jan 28 23:14:44 <jcpham>	Diablo-D3 needs a test unit to update diablominer for sure
Jan 28 23:14:50 <dub>	oh, I saw someone mention the website went away
Jan 28 23:14:59 <Diablo-D3>	Im on the list for asicminer test units, not avalon test units
Jan 28 23:15:03 <Diablo-D3>	if he wants to send me one, Im fine with it
Jan 28 23:15:40 <smickles>	dated sep 8, 2011
Jan 28 23:16:13 <gesell>	why did sdice go public anyway? just wondering why silkroad would not do the same?
Jan 28 23:16:25 <mjrIII>	very good question
Jan 28 23:17:12 <smickles>	gesell: sdice did it for a few reasons, not the least of which was protection against bad luck bankrupting them
Jan 28 23:17:22 <smickles>	also, read the prospectus
Jan 28 23:17:26 <smickles>	it's in there
Jan 28 23:17:35 <jcpham>	reading words!?!?!
Jan 28 23:17:42 <dub>	for jesus
Jan 28 23:18:05 <jcpham>	http://www.eckankar.org/
Jan 28 23:18:16 <jcpham>	soul travel
Jan 28 23:18:38 <thestringpuller>	hey smickles pm
Jan 28 23:18:41 <gesell>	smickles: will look. ignored the pdfs ;)
Jan 28 23:18:46 <jcpham>	that's a for real cult you can check out for when you are bored
Jan 28 23:19:30 <dub>	jcpham: seems legit
Jan 28 23:19:44 <jcpham>	they will send you a book
Jan 28 23:20:02 <jcpham>	i used to dail random 1800 numbers at night and get free hings
Jan 28 23:20:36 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Jan 28 23:20:53 <dub>	how much do I need to spend to become a High Initiate
Jan 28 23:21:09 <dub>	if its more than a bag of weed I have some bad news for them
Jan 28 23:21:14 <jcpham>	at least 50% of your taxable income
Jan 28 23:21:25 <kakobrekla>	depends on the bag size
Jan 28 23:21:31 <dub>	there is that
Jan 28 23:21:40 <jcpham>	fo sho. otherwise how can you experience the light and sound
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Jan 28 23:22:20 <mjrIII>	k guys, have a great night
Jan 28 23:22:25 <mjrIII>	i need some sleep
Jan 28 23:22:26 <mjrIII>	:)
Jan 28 23:22:35 <kakobrekla>	cya
Jan 28 23:23:12 <dub>	kakobrekla: so wat is this higher level asic investment
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Jan 28 23:23:46 <kakobrekla>	umm, got 1k coins?
Jan 28 23:24:02 <dub>	depends how much asic you got
Jan 28 23:24:09 <kakobrekla>	'ALOT'.
Jan 28 23:24:32 <dub>	ok, address? I'll send nao
Jan 28 23:24:51 <kakobrekla>	1BitcoinEaterafafafa
Jan 28 23:24:52 <Bugpowder>	argh
Jan 28 23:24:55 <Bugpowder>	this really is dead
Jan 28 23:24:58 <Bugpowder>	rally
Jan 28 23:25:13 <dub>	really dead rally is really dead
Jan 28 23:25:20 <mod6>	ha
Jan 28 23:25:37 <dub>	say that 5 times fast, and high
Jan 28 23:25:51 <Bugpowder>	sad really
Jan 28 23:25:53 <Bugpowder>	rally
Jan 28 23:25:57 <smickles>	if you don't want to give me bitcoins, be a good chap and send them to an invalid address
Jan 28 23:25:59 <gesell>	sdice pdf a nice read. still, why not silkroad going public'ish for expansion, etc, not that they need it. but also to give a feedback loop into bitcoin exposure somehow
Jan 28 23:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 16000 @ 0.00139 = 22.24 BTC [-]
Jan 28 23:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 4000 @ 0.00144 = 5.76 BTC [+]
Jan 28 23:26:06 <evoorhees>	so it's only a rally if it goes up $1 every 12 hrs??
Jan 28 23:26:13 <Bugpowder>	YAY
Jan 28 23:26:23 <evoorhees>	24 hrs ago it was under $18
Jan 28 23:26:24 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 28 23:26:25 <smickles>	?
Jan 28 23:26:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.70000, Best ask: 18.74996, Bid-ask spread: 0.04996, Last trade: 18.70000, 24 hour volume: 64736.27466920, 24 hour low: 17.81000, 24 hour high: 18.98210, 24 hour vwap: 18.44939
Jan 28 23:26:25 <dub>	but of course, this is bitcoin
Jan 28 23:26:27 <jcpham>	i think it is a rally if ________
Jan 28 23:26:29 <evoorhees>	now we're almost at 19
Jan 28 23:26:32 <jcpham>	fill in the blank
Jan 28 23:26:39 <Bugpowder>	evoorhees dude I had to pay so much for these calls, I do need it to rise $1 a day
Jan 28 23:26:43 <Bugpowder>	practially
Jan 28 23:27:00 <smickles>	Bugpowder: 22?
Jan 28 23:27:03 <Bugpowder>	Thank you for buying my SBBET
Jan 28 23:27:08 <evoorhees>	if it moves by more than $0.20 in a day, for several days, that's a rally, imo
Jan 28 23:27:18 <Bugpowder>	almost out of my IPO allocation
Jan 28 23:27:34 <Bugpowder>	I would like $29
Jan 28 23:27:39 <evoorhees>	me too
Jan 28 23:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00065847 = 6.3542 BTC [+]
Jan 28 23:27:51 <evoorhees>	we'll see it before may
Jan 28 23:27:56 <Bugpowder>	that would double my portfolio, without accounting for the time value of the option
Jan 28 23:27:57 <jcpham>	;;ident evoorhees
Jan 28 23:27:58 <gribble>	Nick 'evoorhees', with hostmask 'evoorhees!~evoorhees@ool-45738bde.dyn.optonline.net', is not identified.
Jan 28 23:28:02 <Bugpowder>	$27 would probably be enug
Jan 28 23:28:04 <Bugpowder>	enuf
Jan 28 23:28:07 <smickles>	;;calc -18/(.25-1)
Jan 28 23:28:07 <gribble>	24
Jan 28 23:28:19 <smickles>	;;calc -18/(.26-1)
Jan 28 23:28:19 <gribble>	24.3243243243
Jan 28 23:28:26 <Bugpowder>	smickles you were buying some of my calls
Jan 28 23:28:28 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Jan 28 23:28:46 <smickles>	heh, yeah, my bot kinda went all in there
Jan 28 23:29:02 <smickles>	seems to think you guys price them a little low
Jan 28 23:29:05 <evoorhees>	what do you guys think the price will be at the end of this year?
Jan 28 23:29:09 <evoorhees>	of btc i mean
Jan 28 23:29:09 <Bugpowder>	I woke up hungover, depressed and scared on Sunday morning
Jan 28 23:29:15 <Bugpowder>	wow
Jan 28 23:29:19 <Bugpowder>	impossible to predice
Jan 28 23:29:26 <Bugpowder>	huge range
Jan 28 23:29:32 <kakobrekla>	32
Jan 28 23:29:38 <Bugpowder>	$4-$90
Jan 28 23:29:47 <smickles>	evoorhees: one sec, i'll get an educated guess
Jan 28 23:29:53 <Bugpowder>	maximum likelyhood around 30
Jan 28 23:29:59 <evoorhees>	I think $12-$90
Jan 28 23:30:19 <jcpham>	i like the high side of that
Jan 28 23:30:42 <error4733>	and you evoorhees ?
Jan 28 23:31:00 <evoorhees>	I just gave my range
Jan 28 23:31:05 <Bugpowder>	So S.DICE gonna hit 1MM bets this month
Jan 28 23:31:07 <mod6>	(20:29) < evoorhees> I think $12-$90
Jan 28 23:31:07 <evoorhees>	you want a specific number?
Jan 28 23:31:13 <mod6>	i think >$50 for sure
Jan 28 23:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8426 @ 0.00065847 = 5.5483 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 23:31:18 <evoorhees>	I think $45
Jan 28 23:31:27 <gesell>	where is the momentium with mpex, i mean where is the expansion. are there any other legit companies that could value and bring value to such an exchange?
Jan 28 23:32:15 <gesell>	at the moment it feels like a club (real cash and investment aside)
Jan 28 23:32:34 <evoorhees>	S.DICE will almost certainly hit 1mil bets this month
Jan 28 23:32:37 <evoorhees>	fucking crazy
Jan 28 23:32:40 <smickles>	2 to 195
Jan 28 23:32:52 <evoorhees>	1mil in btc bet, I mean
Jan 28 23:32:55 <jcpham>	$195 it is smickles
Jan 28 23:32:56 <smickles>	with the mean being 93
Jan 28 23:33:10 <Bugpowder>	150K in bets in the last 30 hours
Jan 28 23:33:14 <smickles>	;;bc,price
Jan 28 23:33:15 <gribble>	Next Price Estimate: 20.570011 | Next Price In About 3 days, 2 hours, 39 minutes, and 34 seconds
Jan 28 23:33:28 <jcpham>	1.3 million last thursday in the order book to go to $99
Jan 28 23:33:29 <Bugpowder>	just non-stop balls out
Jan 28 23:33:36 <evoorhees>	yeah it's wild
Jan 28 23:33:44 <jcpham>	not much ask depth but it ould happen in just about any 24hr period now
Jan 28 23:33:48 <smickles>	;;asks 93
Jan 28 23:33:50 <gribble>	There are currently 56681.423 bitcoins offered at or under 93.0 USD, worth 1483236.46917 USD in total.
Jan 28 23:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 804 @ 0.00737303 = 5.9279 BTC [-]
Jan 28 23:33:57 <smickles>	that's not much at all
Jan 28 23:34:05 <smickles>	i bet mircea could do it :D
Jan 28 23:34:05 <jcpham>	that's what i mean
Jan 28 23:34:05 <evoorhees>	that is meaningless
Jan 28 23:34:11 <evoorhees>	people don't fill in orders that high
Jan 28 23:34:13 <jcpham>	if someone made run at it one day
Jan 28 23:34:21 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 20
Jan 28 23:34:23 <gribble>	There are currently 21491.898 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 419540.55068 USD in total.
Jan 28 23:34:28 <jcpham>	i don't see it happening either
Jan 28 23:34:45 <jcpham>	or if it did happen it would probably be bad ollowing
Jan 28 23:35:25 <jcpham>	i didn't think 20 would come this soon tbh
Jan 28 23:35:30 <evoorhees>	me neither
Jan 28 23:35:35 <mod6>	its game on
Jan 28 23:35:39 <smickles>	lol, some crazy catholic billionair is like, 'ya know, Luke-Jr is right about how much a bitcoin is worth' and buys a mill or two in one order
Jan 28 23:35:53 <evoorhees>	how much does he say a bitcoin is worth?
Jan 28 23:35:54 <Diablo-D3>	the fucking pope
Jan 28 23:36:01 <jcpham>	25$ is the joke
Jan 28 23:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00066267 = 2.7832 BTC [+]
Jan 28 23:36:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Jan 28 23:36:16 <mod6>	he's been selling 2 BTC at a time since the '11 crash for $25 ea.
Jan 28 23:36:30 <jcpham>	^ yeah that
Jan 28 23:36:39 <evoorhees>	who's buying them?
Jan 28 23:36:43 <mod6>	people
Jan 28 23:36:58 <mod6>	he only will do cash in the mail
Jan 28 23:37:01 <mod6>	so *shrug*
Jan 28 23:37:07 <smickles>	25 is about the rate I paid for my first half bitcoin
Jan 28 23:37:57 <smickles>	and I turned it into many more btc during the crash :D
Jan 28 23:38:06 <mod6>	i bought hard during the crash too
Jan 28 23:38:12 <mod6>	should have bought MOAR!
Jan 28 23:38:13 <mod6>	lol
Jan 28 23:38:17 <gesell>	oh beh, kinda annoying always watching bots spipe up 0.1btc above my bid
Jan 28 23:38:18 <gesell>	bleh
Jan 28 23:38:28 <jcpham>	damn those bots
Jan 28 23:38:55 <error4733>	@evoorhess : do you know how make the fat finger mistake ?
Jan 28 23:39:01 <gesell>	have to wait for less volatility and more bear then they leave me alone :/
Jan 28 23:39:18 <error4733>	400K S.dice vanish in a second
Jan 28 23:40:58 <jcpham>	;;ident error4733
Jan 28 23:40:58 <gribble>	Nick 'error4733', with hostmask 'error4733!error4733@ip-83-134-213-2.dsl.scarlet.be', is not identified.
Jan 28 23:40:59 <mod6>	yeah, that was like O.O
Jan 28 23:41:02 <mod6>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/marketplace-excitement-with-expert-commentary-for-your-vicarious-trading-pleasure/
Jan 28 23:41:21 <jcpham>	i'm out of credits and on mircea strike
Jan 28 23:41:26 <mod6>	use tor
Jan 28 23:41:34 <jcpham>	oh my gash
Jan 28 23:42:01 <mod6>	wut
Jan 28 23:42:53 <Namworld>	use google as a proxy...
Jan 28 23:43:08 <mod6>	naw fuck google
Jan 28 23:43:20 <smickles>	or cough up the <.1btc
Jan 28 23:43:33 <smickles>	for 1000 credits
Jan 28 23:43:45 <evoorhees>	no, I have no idea who it was
Jan 28 23:43:56 <evoorhees>	wish I had some bid orders in though! hehe
Jan 28 23:44:13 <smickles>	it just missed mine
Jan 28 23:44:43 <error4733>	i got small one at 0.0043
Jan 28 23:45:01 <error4733>	not bad but 250 at 0.0018...
Jan 28 23:45:09 <error4733>	*250K
Jan 28 23:45:16 <Namworld>	lol... you could get 500k S.DICE for 0.0008 each
Jan 28 23:45:26 <mod6>	srsly
Jan 28 23:45:29 <mod6>	it was on there
Jan 28 23:45:48 <Namworld>	450 BTC would have netted you 3500 BTC worth of S.DICE
Jan 28 23:45:57 <Namworld>	Major fuckup
Jan 28 23:46:17 <error4733>	yeps
Jan 28 23:46:21 <error4733>	i want tips him
Jan 28 23:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00066449 = 4.1863 BTC [+]
Jan 28 23:47:12 <error4733>	http://i.qkme.me/3sr4r6.jpg
Jan 28 23:47:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00066572 = 1.398 BTC [+]
Jan 28 23:48:01 <mod6>	hahaha
Jan 28 23:48:11 <mod6>	thats awesome
Jan 28 23:48:16 <smickles>	jcpham: i'll sell you about 800 credits for .07 btc
Jan 28 23:48:37 <jcpham>	i'll boycott his blog for free thanks
Jan 28 23:48:55 <mod6>	you can hook up the credits for trilema?
Jan 28 23:48:56 <gesell>	was enlightening. im off
Jan 28 23:48:59 <error4733>	you miss a lot of free porn
Jan 28 23:49:00 <jcpham>	or just change proxies later
Jan 28 23:49:03 <mod6>	c-ya gesell
Jan 28 23:49:10 <Namworld>	goodbye
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Jan 28 23:49:43 <smickles>	mod6: call me entrepreneural
Jan 28 23:50:02 <mod6>	:D
Jan 28 23:50:23 <smickles>	jcpham: you really think he charges so much it's worthy of a boycotte?
Jan 28 23:51:05 <jcpham>	i don't know. i'm barely paying attention
Jan 28 23:51:23 <jcpham>	people post links. i click links.
Jan 28 23:51:33 <jcpham>	links say i have to pay. screw paying
Jan 28 23:52:10 <smickles>	canned MP answer: "This is why we can't have nice things."
Jan 28 23:52:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00066572 = 6.8569 BTC [+]
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Jan 28 23:52:46 <mod6>	i'd pay, i didn't realize it was that little
Jan 28 23:52:48 <smickles>	you miss out on such quality posts as mp blathering about how he used to be blonde when he was 5
Jan 28 23:52:52 <mod6>	i thought it was way more
Jan 28 23:53:13 <smickles>	it's 1usd per 1000 pageviews
Jan 28 23:53:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.007395 = 2.2185 BTC [+]
Jan 28 23:53:36 <jcpham>	where am i going to find a dollar?
Jan 28 23:53:58 <error4733>	not in a US bank
Jan 28 23:54:16 <smickles>	oh, and it's payably only via bitcoin now
Jan 28 23:54:22 <jcpham>	i thought this is bitcoin...why is is extorting us dollars from me?
Jan 28 23:54:32 <jcpham>	is this some type of money laundering operation?
Jan 28 23:55:30 <jcpham>	i'm calling the cops right now
Jan 28 23:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00066349 = 1.7582 BTC [-]
Jan 28 23:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5674 @ 0.0006613 = 3.7522 BTC [-]
Jan 28 23:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1186 @ 0.00065011 = 0.771 BTC [-]
Jan 28 23:56:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2490 @ 0.00064965 = 1.6176 BTC [-]
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Jan 28 23:58:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 860 @ 0.00064965 = 0.5587 BTC [-]
Jan 28 23:58:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2423 @ 0.00064901 = 1.5726 BTC [-]
Jan 28 23:58:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1517 @ 0.00064835 = 0.9835 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 00:08:37 <mod6>	;;ticker
Jan 29 00:08:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.80201, Best ask: 18.90200, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 18.80201, 24 hour volume: 65819.78817984, 24 hour low: 17.81000, 24 hour high: 18.98210, 24 hour vwap: 18.45863
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Jan 29 00:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00064835 = 4.4736 BTC [-]
Jan 29 00:23:11 <mod6>	rally!
Jan 29 00:23:46 <mod6>	;;ticker
Jan 29 00:23:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.00000, Best ask: 19.00493, Bid-ask spread: 0.00493, Last trade: 19.00000, 24 hour volume: 68835.69270501, 24 hour low: 17.81000, 24 hour high: 19.01000, 24 hour vwap: 18.48882
Jan 29 00:24:05 <mod6>	;;asks 19.50
Jan 29 00:24:07 <gribble>	There are currently 7383.8489 bitcoins offered at or under 19.5 USD, worth 142419.379825 USD in total.
Jan 29 00:24:12 <mod6>	;;asks 20
Jan 29 00:24:14 <gribble>	There are currently 18581.166 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 364604.83717 USD in total.
Jan 29 00:35:37 <dub>	haha
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Jan 29 00:54:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 197 @ 0.00737303 = 1.4525 BTC [-]
Jan 29 00:59:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 110 @ 0.009 = 0.99 BTC [+]
Jan 29 01:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.00066546 = 0.366 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 01:14:42 <mod6>	;;ticker
Jan 29 01:14:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.10778, Best ask: 19.10999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00221, Last trade: 19.10779, 24 hour volume: 71540.62920620, 24 hour low: 17.81000, 24 hour high: 19.10999, 24 hour vwap: 18.52482
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Jan 29 01:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.76500001 = 22.95 BTC [-]
Jan 29 01:27:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.765 = 10.71 BTC [-]
Jan 29 01:27:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.76 = 15.2 BTC [-]
Jan 29 01:29:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 403 @ 0.00733823 = 2.9573 BTC [-]
Jan 29 01:29:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5997 @ 0.007395 = 44.3478 BTC [+]
Jan 29 01:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.745 = 9.685 BTC [-]
Jan 29 01:32:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.74 = 7.4 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 01:32:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.007395 = 17.0085 BTC [+]
Jan 29 01:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.78 = 9.36 BTC [+]
Jan 29 01:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2284 @ 0.00064835 = 1.4808 BTC [-]
Jan 29 01:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 466 @ 0.00064774 = 0.3018 BTC [-]
Jan 29 01:37:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.007395 = 8.874 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 01:47:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00064774 = 11.2059 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 02:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00065175 = 1.1732 BTC [+]
Jan 29 02:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9955 @ 0.00065566 = 6.5271 BTC [+]
Jan 29 02:02:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1995 @ 0.00066274 = 1.3222 BTC [+]
Jan 29 02:09:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5534 @ 0.00064774 = 3.5846 BTC [-]
Jan 29 02:09:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00064772 = 2.5818 BTC [-]
Jan 29 02:11:08 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 17
Jan 29 02:11:09 <gribble>	There are currently 37419.699 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 676075.974365 USD in total.
Jan 29 02:11:15 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 20
Jan 29 02:11:17 <gribble>	There are currently 12309.343 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 243415.394632 USD in total.
Jan 29 02:11:23 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 29 02:11:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.20001, Best ask: 19.24998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 19.20001, 24 hour volume: 75168.16444802, 24 hour low: 17.86173, 24 hour high: 19.30000, 24 hour vwap: 18.56914
Jan 29 02:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2364 @ 0.00064772 = 1.5312 BTC [-]
Jan 29 02:16:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7327 @ 0.00064502 = 4.7261 BTC [-]
Jan 29 02:16:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14191 @ 0.00064501 = 9.1533 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 02:31:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00066274 = 1.6569 BTC [+]
Jan 29 02:32:04 <fancypants>	;;ticker
Jan 29 02:32:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.13001, Best ask: 19.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 19.13001, 24 hour volume: 76946.58851986, 24 hour low: 17.86173, 24 hour high: 19.30000, 24 hour vwap: 18.58421
Jan 29 02:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	o hey 19s
Jan 29 02:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139649.0
Jan 29 02:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	and in more serious news, http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-28/labor-minister-says-france-totally-bankrupt
Jan 29 02:39:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.007395 = 2.2185 BTC [+]
Jan 29 02:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5465 @ 0.00066274 = 3.6219 BTC [+]
Jan 29 02:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00066546 = 1.8966 BTC [+]
Jan 29 02:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00066572 = 1.5977 BTC [+]
Jan 29 02:41:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 579 @ 0.00066599 = 0.3856 BTC [+]
Jan 29 02:45:56 <topace>	hey mircea_popescu, you can ignore my deposit for 112, im dyslexic or need coffee.. it should have been 121 which i did a few seconds later, and sent it properly. :)
Jan 29 02:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00065556 = 4.6873 BTC [-]
Jan 29 02:50:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6999 @ 0.00064828 = 4.5373 BTC [-]
Jan 29 03:01:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7101 BTC [+]
Jan 29 03:01:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
Jan 29 03:01:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 41 @ 0.7011 = 28.7451 BTC [-]
Jan 29 03:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 61 @ 0.00728138 = 0.4442 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 03:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1955 @ 0.00064828 = 1.2674 BTC [-]
Jan 29 03:19:29 <mircea_popescu>	topace no biggy
Jan 29 03:19:33 <mircea_popescu>	i'll just ignore both :D
Jan 29 03:19:42 <topace>	lol, thats no good :p
Jan 29 03:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	hehe. o waity, you were trading 8s yest huh
Jan 29 03:20:26 <topace>	yea havelock sdice passthru hit 0.80
Jan 29 03:20:31 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 29 03:20:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.74000000 / 0.773125 / 0.80000000 (184 shares, 142.25500030 BTC), 7D: 0.44000000 / 0.62780101 / 0.81000000 (1408 shares, 883.94381836 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.50651342 / 0.81000000 (5402 shares, 2736.18551824 BTC)
Jan 29 03:20:40 <topace>	0.81 even :p
Jan 29 03:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	deposit queue flushed ftr.
Jan 29 03:22:37 <topace>	whoop thx
Jan 29 03:22:59 <topace>	i should go home, its 3.22am
Jan 29 03:23:03 <topace>	and im still at the office
Jan 29 03:23:09 <topace>	and i have to be back for a server delivery at 9am
Jan 29 03:23:10 <topace>	:(
Jan 29 03:23:20 <topace>	becauase if im not here at 9am, thats when purolator will come
Jan 29 03:23:28 <topace>	if i am here, they'll be here around 2 in the afternoon
Jan 29 03:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 29 03:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	you need either a. install a bed or b. chain a girly to the coatrack
Jan 29 03:25:15 <topace>	lol yea
Jan 29 03:25:32 <topace>	soon as i get the mining equipment out of my boardroom, i could sleep on the couch
Jan 29 03:25:46 <topace>	but that rooms too cold now to sleep there... (the window is open, to keep the mining equipment cool)
Jan 29 03:26:00 <topace>	and its -15C outside
Jan 29 03:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 29 03:26:18 <topace>	and it has a 3200 CFM fan blowing air in :p
Jan 29 03:26:20 <mircea_popescu>	i never got into mining
Jan 29 03:26:41 <topace>	cheap cooling in canada in the winter months :)
Jan 29 03:26:46 <mircea_popescu>	i bet
Jan 29 03:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	melting the ice caps
Jan 29 03:27:18 <topace>	k im out
Jan 29 03:27:19 <topace>	ttyl
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Jan 29 03:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 946 @ 0.00064828 = 0.6133 BTC [-]
Jan 29 03:42:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3327 @ 0.00064614 = 2.1497 BTC [-]
Jan 29 03:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 427 @ 0.00064501 = 0.2754 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 04:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.0006498 = 8.2525 BTC [+]
Jan 29 04:00:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12082 @ 0.00064501 = 7.793 BTC [-]
Jan 29 04:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20554 @ 0.00064437 = 13.2444 BTC [-]
Jan 29 04:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4514 @ 0.00064421 = 2.908 BTC [-]
Jan 29 04:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00727383 = 0.7274 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 04:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00725575 = 3.2651 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 04:19:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00064989 = 1.6572 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 04:22:14 <dub>	ffs
Jan 29 04:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11634 @ 0.00064421 = 7.4947 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 04:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00722215 = 2.1666 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 04:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	still going up huh
Jan 29 04:52:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1 @ 0.19941025 BTC [-]
Jan 29 04:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00720244 = 6.4822 BTC [-]
Jan 29 04:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.08536952 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 05:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00722215 = 1.8055 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 05:18:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 760 @ 0.0074 = 5.624 BTC [-]
Jan 29 05:23:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00064989 = 1.5597 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 05:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22455 @ 0.00064989 = 14.5933 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 05:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4953 @ 0.00064989 = 3.2189 BTC [+]
Jan 29 05:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00064989 = 3.8019 BTC [+]
Jan 29 05:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064989 = 6.2389 BTC [+]
Jan 29 06:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00720244 = 0.7202 BTC [-]
Jan 29 06:01:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00717887 = 3.9484 BTC [-]
Jan 29 06:01:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0071638 = 1.4328 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 06:20:03 <DeadWease>	;;bids 19
Jan 29 06:20:05 <gribble>	There are currently 1957.6893 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 37414.8275541 USD in total.
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Jan 29 06:21:04 <DeadWease>	;;asks 32
Jan 29 06:21:06 <gribble>	There are currently 43682.557 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 1057083.08203 USD in total.
Jan 29 06:21:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2492 @ 0.00064989 = 1.6195 BTC [+]
Jan 29 06:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6352 @ 0.00065585 = 4.166 BTC [+]
Jan 29 06:21:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00066255 = 2.849 BTC [+]
Jan 29 06:21:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00066503 = 5.6528 BTC [+]
Jan 29 06:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 421 @ 0.00066599 = 0.2804 BTC [+]
Jan 29 06:21:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3051 @ 0.00066703 = 2.0351 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 06:22:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00722215 = 2.1666 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 06:23:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00714694 = 3.9308 BTC [-]
Jan 29 06:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 29 06:24:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.27520, Best ask: 19.31625, Bid-ask spread: 0.04105, Last trade: 19.35000, 24 hour volume: 82461.46947858, 24 hour low: 17.90100, 24 hour high: 19.78000, 24 hour vwap: 18.75037
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Jan 29 06:27:28 <DeadWease>	/nick deadweasel
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Jan 29 06:38:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00064702 = 3.2027 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 06:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00722215 = 0.7222 BTC [+]
Jan 29 06:59:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1289 @ 0.00727383 = 9.376 BTC [+]
Jan 29 06:59:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 511 @ 0.007395 = 3.7788 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 07:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4235 @ 0.00064927 = 2.7497 BTC [+]
Jan 29 07:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1595 @ 0.00064702 = 1.032 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 07:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00065586 = 4.5254 BTC [+]
Jan 29 07:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00066507 = 2.6603 BTC [+]
Jan 29 07:29:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00064702 = 0.9705 BTC [-]
Jan 29 07:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13627 @ 0.00066541 = 9.0675 BTC [+]
Jan 29 07:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00066541 = 4.2586 BTC [+]
Jan 29 07:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	o o, seems we going down
Jan 29 07:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 29 07:41:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.77100, Best ask: 18.89974, Bid-ask spread: 0.12874, Last trade: 18.89974, 24 hour volume: 92919.30661248, 24 hour low: 17.90100, 24 hour high: 19.78000, 24 hour vwap: 18.78229
Jan 29 07:44:51 <kakobrekla>	so sad.
Jan 29 07:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Jan 29 07:45:58 <kakobrekla>	i always say dat
Jan 29 07:46:00 <kakobrekla>	up or down.
Jan 29 07:46:01 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 29 07:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 29 07:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	that's because you're not old enough to smoke.
Jan 29 07:46:33 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Jan 29 07:46:58 <kakobrekla>	did you come to that part btw
Jan 29 07:47:01 <kakobrekla>	or finished before it
Jan 29 07:47:06 <SomeoneWeird>	lol mircea_popescu
Jan 29 07:47:46 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i got as far as to where some dood walks in and kills the ho atop him
Jan 29 07:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	SomeoneWeird :p
Jan 29 07:47:56 <Bugpowder>	STAY STRONG
Jan 29 07:48:00 <Bugpowder>	LONG AND STRONG
Jan 29 07:48:11 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu ill pay you 1btc to finish it :)
Jan 29 07:48:13 <mircea_popescu>	o hallo bugsy. how's teh 50s ?
Jan 29 07:48:20 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 29 07:48:31 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol ok. i'll put it on the bj list
Jan 29 07:48:37 <Bugpowder>	it appears some asshole decided to sell 10,000 BTC at 19.75
Jan 29 07:48:45 <Bugpowder>	MPEX options did not quench this rally
Jan 29 07:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	all rallies eventually get it in the ass.
Jan 29 07:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	they're sluts.
Jan 29 07:49:31 <Bugpowder>	this one isn't sure what she wants to do.
Jan 29 07:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	so uncommon, that.
Jan 29 07:50:12 <Bugpowder>	also on the 1D chart, it looks like a straight line up
Jan 29 07:50:19 <mircea_popescu>	o ya
Jan 29 07:50:24 <mircea_popescu>	where's your ponzichart ?
Jan 29 07:50:27 <Bugpowder>	which my TA skillz says is like totally going to 50
Jan 29 07:50:47 <Bugpowder>	ponzichart is a little fucked up due to the valuation of these calls
Jan 29 07:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&
Jan 29 07:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	that ? isn't that supposed to be a gravestone, ie, end of trend ?
Jan 29 07:51:08 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder do share.
Jan 29 07:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2267 @ 0.00064702 = 1.4668 BTC [-]
Jan 29 07:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	also, this http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135946401856.jpg
Jan 29 07:58:24 <Bugpowder>	http://imgur.com/a/EsExY
Jan 29 07:58:35 <Bugpowder>	assuming midmarket valuation of the calls
Jan 29 08:00:20 <Bugpowder>	I made an account and an album!
Jan 29 08:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Jan 29 08:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	the Ponzi Album
Jan 29 08:01:22 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, it deponzified a little.
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Jan 29 08:02:10 <Bugpowder>	just wait till the price goes to @&
Jan 29 08:02:12 <Bugpowder>	27
Jan 29 08:02:21 <Bugpowder>	baby poking at the keyboard
Jan 29 08:02:32 <Bugpowder>	dont sell my calls baby!
Jan 29 08:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 29 08:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	baby sells your calls at market and your sdice at 18
Jan 29 08:04:26 <Bugpowder>	matlab is in control now
Jan 29 08:04:42 <Bugpowder>	except when it crashes
Jan 29 08:04:53 <Bugpowder>	still working out the kinks
Jan 29 08:05:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00066541 = 2.5286 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 08:10:09 <Schadenfreude>	Technische Universität Wien? not bad
Jan 29 08:13:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 33 @ 0.03 = 0.99 BTC [-]
Jan 29 08:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00065229 = 5.7075 BTC [-]
Jan 29 08:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ?
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Jan 29 08:23:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6238 @ 0.0006509 = 4.0603 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 08:28:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.0006509 = 5.435 BTC [-]
Jan 29 08:30:04 <DeadWeasek>	;;bids 19
Jan 29 08:30:07 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
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Jan 29 08:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 169 @ 0.007395 = 1.2498 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 08:38:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0074 = 0.148 BTC [-]
Jan 29 08:39:21 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 29 08:39:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.90010, Best ask: 18.98979, Bid-ask spread: 0.08969, Last trade: 18.98979, 24 hour volume: 93620.39733442, 24 hour low: 17.90100, 24 hour high: 19.78000, 24 hour vwap: 18.79166
Jan 29 08:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9222 @ 0.00064702 = 5.9668 BTC [-]
Jan 29 08:42:37 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Jan 29 08:42:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.95000, Best ask: 18.98978, Bid-ask spread: 0.03978, Last trade: 18.95000, 24 hour volume: 92611.87472610, 24 hour low: 17.90100, 24 hour high: 19.78000, 24 hour vwap: 18.79870
Jan 29 08:45:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00064702 = 3.4939 BTC [-]
Jan 29 08:46:11 <jurov>	DeadWeasel, i just called ticker. do you have me on ignore? :DDD
Jan 29 08:46:57 <DeadWeasel>	no sorry, i was registering my nick, text cleared it all off, didn't see it
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Jan 29 08:48:33 <DeadWeasel>	trying to get my IRC feet back under me.
Jan 29 08:49:55 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139704.msg1487845;topicseen#msg1487845
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Jan 29 08:53:42 <jurov>	DeadWeasel, np
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Jan 29 08:59:47 <DeadWeasel>	;;bids 19
Jan 29 08:59:49 <gribble>	There are currently 216.72419 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 4117.75965731 USD in total.
Jan 29 09:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.0006509 = 1.1716 BTC [+]
Jan 29 09:09:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.027 = 2.7 BTC [-]
Jan 29 09:10:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66 @ 0.00064702 = 0.0427 BTC [-]
Jan 29 09:10:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9905 @ 0.00064701 = 6.4086 BTC [-]
Jan 29 09:10:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 966 @ 0.026 = 25.116 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 09:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.77999999 = 10.92 BTC [-]
Jan 29 09:20:11 <DeadWeasel>	;;bids 19
Jan 29 09:20:12 <gribble>	There are currently 708.80583 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 13486.4642488 USD in total.
Jan 29 09:20:26 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 29 09:20:27 <gribble>	18.78
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Jan 29 09:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla and so it begins.
Jan 29 09:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	Bitcoin Only, no refunds etc.
Jan 29 09:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00064701 = 1.4881 BTC [-]
Jan 29 09:36:44 <topace>	avalon really is looking more like a scam isnt it
Jan 29 09:37:01 <topace>	"yay we shipped! but, you might not get it for a few months, we cant do anything about shipping times"
Jan 29 09:37:10 <topace>	"now pre-order our next batch before you get the current ones"
Jan 29 09:37:56 <topace>	i just dont understand WHY they couldnt release a simple video of their units hashing away
Jan 29 09:38:07 <topace>	well, i do, becuase they dont exist...
Jan 29 09:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Jan 29 09:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	no asics this year.
Jan 29 09:39:39 <kakobrekla>	prolly wrong.
Jan 29 09:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	you think ?
Jan 29 09:40:39 <topace>	i think BFL will deliver in april
Jan 29 09:40:44 <topace>	maybe march
Jan 29 09:41:04 <kakobrekla>	im in contact with 2 different asic devs and none of them has even announced anything, yet i know one was ahead of bfl
Jan 29 09:41:52 <mircea_popescu>	" Only Bitcoin will allow us to move half a million USD in a few hours into places they are suppose to go to."
Jan 29 09:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is particularly stupid.
Jan 29 09:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla maybe. asics are a hard problem tho.
Jan 29 09:43:02 <topace>	"places they are supposed to go" -- aka  "into our scam artist pockets before they catch the next plane to south america"
Jan 29 09:43:09 <mircea_popescu>	"How else did you expect us to produce a functional ASIC unit in the same length of time a competitor has been delayed?"
Jan 29 09:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if this sounded better in chinese.
Jan 29 09:44:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 976 @ 0.00064701 = 0.6315 BTC [-]
Jan 29 09:44:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11074 @ 0.00064666 = 7.1611 BTC [-]
Jan 29 09:44:36 <azx>	if BFL is not delivering, what about those other guys?
Jan 29 09:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	basic basically admitted they were... lieing about everything.
Jan 29 09:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	avalon seems pretty much a scam on the strength of this latest move.
Jan 29 09:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	what other guys ?
Jan 29 09:46:31 <azx>	let me look up his name. there was a thread how they delivered a ASIC and one gets shipped to BTC foundation and so on
Jan 29 09:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	this is it.
Jan 29 09:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	avalon
Jan 29 09:47:09 <mircea_popescu>	i guess there's also the asicminer ppl. tho they're about three weeks late on their revised estimates without a good reason by now/
Jan 29 09:50:03 <azx>	avalon was a scam too?
Jan 29 09:50:37 <azx>	I guess anything to do with mining turns out to be a scam sooner or later
Jan 29 09:51:03 <mircea_popescu>	azx that's what we're discussing. avalon's most recent announcement.
Jan 29 09:51:57 <azx>	i was afk. url
Jan 29 09:52:14 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139704.msg1487845;topicseen#msg1487845
Jan 29 09:52:48 <topace>	jesus $19.79
Jan 29 09:53:07 <mircea_popescu>	im curious if it can cross the psychological 20
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Jan 29 09:54:16 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: do you live off of income from your bitcoin activities?
Jan 29 09:54:27 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Jan 29 09:54:41 <pizzaman1337>	do you ever convert your BTC to fiat?
Jan 29 09:54:47 <mircea_popescu>	rarely if at all.
Jan 29 09:54:55 <pizzaman1337>	what do you do for a living? if you don't mind me asking
Jan 29 09:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	i retired back in 2004
Jan 29 09:55:12 <thestringpuller>	;;asks
Jan 29 09:55:12 <gribble>	(asks [--over] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoins for sale at or under <pricetarget>. If '--over' option is given, find coins or at or over <pricetarget>.
Jan 29 09:55:14 <azx>	" Avalon need the money before this weekend starts " - lol
Jan 29 09:55:25 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 20
Jan 29 09:55:26 <gribble>	There are currently 9992.735 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 199300.135435 USD in total.
Jan 29 09:55:33 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: I'm guessing you did financial stuff?
Jan 29 09:55:41 <mircea_popescu>	in a sense, yeah.
Jan 29 09:55:41 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 18
Jan 29 09:55:43 <gribble>	There are currently 18004.054 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 331312.635666 USD in total.
Jan 29 09:56:13 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is a romanian mobster
Jan 29 09:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	there's a romanian mob now ?
Jan 29 09:57:16 <dust-otc>	mircea_popescu: want to bet that Avalon is a scam?
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Jan 29 09:57:43 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Jan 29 09:57:43 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 hours, 3 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <smickles> oh, and it's payably only via bitcoin now
Jan 29 09:57:59 <jurov>	dust-otc: http://bitbet.us/bet/34/an-asic-unit-from-either-bfl-avalon-or/
Jan 29 09:58:01 <mircea_popescu>	dust-otc how do we bet ?
Jan 29 09:59:01 <azx>	pizzaman1337: read the forums :)
Jan 29 09:59:07 <dust-otc>	Even odds, Avalon delivers a working ASIC unit by Mar. 1
Jan 29 09:59:11 <dust-otc>	if not, they are a scam
Jan 29 09:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	dust-otc why not bitbet ?
Jan 29 09:59:47 <dust-otc>	I don't like the variable odds
Jan 29 10:00:00 <dust-otc>	more counterparty risk
Jan 29 10:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	i don't like the having to keep track of private beds
Jan 29 10:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	i already have a list and it's on my nerves ;/
Jan 29 10:00:09 <dust-otc>	and the BFL bet is terribly worded
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Jan 29 10:01:48 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139704.msg1487970#msg1487970 lol the girl at ther finest.
Jan 29 10:02:15 <dust-otc>	mircea_popescu: with the terms I listed, i'm willing to bet up to 100btc
Jan 29 10:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	that they ship ?
Jan 29 10:02:30 <dust-otc>	so it might be worth your time to keep track of
Jan 29 10:02:58 <azx>	what girl?
Jan 29 10:03:03 <dust-otc>	that they aren't a scam, which requires that they ship, even if slightly delayed/ out of spec
Jan 29 10:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	dust-otc well... im not sure i want even odds on that, and i'm not sure "a unit" means anything in this context.
Jan 29 10:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	how about deliver 80% of their first batch by mar 1st. 240 units or w/e it was.
Jan 29 10:03:48 <DeadWeasel>	Yes, I'll have 14 units of ASICs please.
Jan 29 10:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	and i can't bring myself to throw 100 btc on this either, im not invested in them either way
Jan 29 10:04:00 <mircea_popescu>	more of a sporting interest for me than anything else.
Jan 29 10:04:41 <dust-otc>	I admit that it is possible that Avalon/BFL are scams, especially BFL, but I don't think it is likely
Jan 29 10:04:50 <dust-otc>	and yet many people seem very sure they are scams
Jan 29 10:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	their latest move makes it pretty convincing in my eyes.
Jan 29 10:05:46 <jurov>	yes, really, is it so hard to produce convincing multimedia evidence?
Jan 29 10:05:52 <dust-otc>	Everyone is getting mad that avalon is taking orders for a 2nd batch before they shipped the first, and yet BFL has been doing this all along
Jan 29 10:05:58 <dust-otc>	2nd, 3rd, .. Nth batches
Jan 29 10:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	the problem with "are scams" arguments in btc is that the chances of it becoming purely semantinc are so high. most are idiots rather than scammers i guess.
Jan 29 10:06:18 <dust-otc>	jurov: true, they really should post proof
Jan 29 10:06:22 <jcpham>	and it just keeps going
Jan 29 10:06:33 <topace>	im okay with them being scams, my fpga's keep plugging along
Jan 29 10:06:39 <topace>	making 100+BTC/month
Jan 29 10:06:55 <mircea_popescu>	yeah i think fpgas will turn out to be the best investments ever.
Jan 29 10:06:56 <topace>	the longer asics are delayed, the more moneys worth i get from the fpgas
Jan 29 10:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	yours paid for themselves already ?
Jan 29 10:07:25 <jcpham>	woohoo avalon batch #2
Jan 29 10:07:38 <dust-otc>	topace: BFL or others?
Jan 29 10:07:52 <azx>	jcpham: So, we have a problem. Avalon need the money before this weekend starts to place orders for the parts. :)
Jan 29 10:07:53 <topace>	yup more than 100% paid off
Jan 29 10:07:55 <topace>	mostly BFL
Jan 29 10:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. you too ka risk but it paid off.
Jan 29 10:08:23 <topace>	and if htey actually do ship asics, each one is worth its trade in value back to them too
Jan 29 10:08:25 <mircea_popescu>	i contemplated it at the time but preferred to pass.
Jan 29 10:08:27 <jcpham>	i like how the price is going up making my gpus seem less crazy
Jan 29 10:08:46 <azx>	mircea_popescu: you did finance? What exactly?
Jan 29 10:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i suspect the more efficient gpus are atm the baseline
Jan 29 10:09:00 <dust-otc>	I really should try to fix up some of my gpus
Jan 29 10:09:13 <dust-otc>	mining is getting fairly profitable again
Jan 29 10:09:25 <jcpham>	diff rose, price rose, diff dropped, price dropped
Jan 29 10:09:31 <jcpham>	now the diff is rising again
Jan 29 10:09:36 <jcpham>	guess what happens next
Jan 29 10:09:37 <kakobrekla>	mining profitability http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php
Jan 29 10:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	azx i've never commented on that topic.
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Jan 29 10:10:24 <jcpham>	;;ticker
Jan 29 10:10:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.39000, Best ask: 19.39224, Bid-ask spread: 0.00224, Last trade: 19.38924, 24 hour volume: 102254.25858682, 24 hour low: 17.90100, 24 hour high: 19.80000, 24 hour vwap: 18.88041
Jan 29 10:10:38 <jcpham>	;;calc 102254*[ticker --avg]
Jan 29 10:10:39 <gribble>	1930597.44414
Jan 29 10:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla is that gross revenue ?
Jan 29 10:11:03 <jcpham>	;;calc 102254*[ticker --avg]*.0005
Jan 29 10:11:04 <gribble>	965.30536858
Jan 29 10:11:09 <kakobrekla>	>>http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php
Jan 29 10:11:11 <kakobrekla>	eh
Jan 29 10:11:17 <jcpham>	what is gox's fee
Jan 29 10:11:20 <jcpham>	.005
Jan 29 10:11:25 <jcpham>	or .0005
Jan 29 10:11:28 <azx>	"pizzaman1337 | mircea_popescu: I'm guessing you did financial stuff?" - mircea_popescu | in a sense, yeah.
Jan 29 10:11:46 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu its daily 100mhash revenue
Jan 29 10:11:58 <azx>	just curious
Jan 29 10:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	as in, expected btc mined ?
Jan 29 10:12:03 <kakobrekla>	ya
Jan 29 10:12:14 <kakobrekla>	isnt it clear?
Jan 29 10:12:24 <mircea_popescu>	was curious if any cost of wattage substracted
Jan 29 10:12:28 <kakobrekla>	nope
Jan 29 10:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	what's that for 100mh on gpus, like 10-15 cents ?
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Jan 29 10:13:07 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Jan 29 10:13:31 <kakobrekla>	im out of gpus for long time
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Jan 29 10:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 430 @ 0.007395 = 3.1799 BTC [+]
Jan 29 10:17:08 <EskimoBob>	lol, did popescu tell you he was in finance "in a sense"? LOL, he is a old spammer
Jan 29 10:18:15 <EskimoBob>	search his name and be ready to laugh your ass off :)
Jan 29 10:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1353 @ 0.007395 = 10.0054 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 10:20:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.0006509 = 2.6361 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 10:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6212 @ 0.0006509 = 4.0434 BTC [+]
Jan 29 10:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2304 @ 0.00065185 = 1.5019 BTC [+]
Jan 29 10:30:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 925 @ 0.00064666 = 0.5982 BTC [-]
Jan 29 10:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4525 @ 0.00064421 = 2.9151 BTC [-]
Jan 29 10:30:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006438 = 6.438 BTC [-]
Jan 29 10:30:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00064372 = 5.7291 BTC [-]
Jan 29 10:30:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.0006437 = 3.7978 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 10:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1574 @ 0.0006437 = 1.0132 BTC [-]
Jan 29 10:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1926 @ 0.00064358 = 1.2395 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 10:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00064358 = 3.604 BTC [-]
Jan 29 10:46:52 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 19
Jan 29 10:46:53 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 29 10:47:04 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 32
Jan 29 10:47:06 <gribble>	There are currently 46192.853 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 1106817.5498 USD in total.
Jan 29 10:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 604 @ 0.00737556 = 4.4548 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 10:50:39 <Bugpowder>	A graphics update!
Jan 29 10:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder haha you mean mpex ?
Jan 29 10:51:14 <Bugpowder>	it IS easier to view
Jan 29 10:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. the reverse color nonsense had to go
Jan 29 10:51:43 <kakobrekla>	https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6974317568/hAD51E1D3/
Jan 29 10:52:31 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaah
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Jan 29 10:55:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5004 @ 0.00064358 = 3.2205 BTC [-]
Jan 29 10:55:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7840 @ 0.00064239 = 5.0363 BTC [-]
Jan 29 10:59:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065165 = 2.8158 BTC [+]
Jan 29 10:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9742 @ 0.00065185 = 6.3503 BTC [+]
Jan 29 11:00:22 <DeadWeasel>	;; bids 19
Jan 29 11:00:24 <gribble>	There are currently 1491.2595 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 28499.0119229 USD in total.
Jan 29 11:00:47 <DeadWeasel>	asks 30
Jan 29 11:00:50 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 30
Jan 29 11:00:52 <gribble>	There are currently 38880.635 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 870816.70782 USD in total.
Jan 29 11:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.77999999 = 13.26 BTC [-]
Jan 29 11:07:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.78 = 2.34 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 11:09:52 <Diablo-D3>	wait, why are you getting different answers than me
Jan 29 11:10:14 <Diablo-D3>	[11:08:14] <Diablo-D3> ;;bids 19.33
Jan 29 11:10:14 <Diablo-D3>	[11:08:18] <gribble> There are currently 43.917217 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.33 USD, worth 849.358102304 USD in total.
Jan 29 11:10:30 <Diablo-D3>	oh, you went from 19
Jan 29 11:10:31 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
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Jan 29 11:15:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 196 @ 0.00737236 = 1.445 BTC [-]
Jan 29 11:15:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 104 @ 0.007395 = 0.7691 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 11:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 51989 @ 0.007395 = 384.4587 BTC [+]
Jan 29 11:25:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 815 @ 0.25823903 = 210.4648 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 11:26:45 <DrufferS>	www.btctoys.com if someone fancies sex toys and other stuff like that...just got my order:D:D
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Jan 29 11:27:55 <Bugpowder>	damn.  I thought someone just sold me some puts
Jan 29 11:28:56 <mircea_popescu>	spamming this chan is becoming  popular ;/
Jan 29 11:29:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2394 @ 0.00065167 = 1.5601 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 11:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/29/should-you-be-concerned-about-obamas-new-sec-chairman-pick/
Jan 29 11:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00064972 = 5.3602 BTC [-]
Jan 29 11:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	new sec head. obama declares war on bitcoinz ?
Jan 29 11:37:25 <Bugpowder>	prob not
Jan 29 11:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	what;'s this, the 4th woman in a row ?
Jan 29 11:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00065167 = 0.2607 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 11:41:48 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139415.msg1484896#msg1484896
Jan 29 11:41:55 <kakobrekla>	its over 9000 fyi.
Jan 29 11:42:11 <kakobrekla>	also the dude should get a domain like 15Kpizza.com or smth
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Jan 29 11:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla over 10k is over 9k overmore.
Jan 29 11:46:54 <kakobrekla>	not the point
Jan 29 11:47:01 <kakobrekla>	the cultural reference is 9k
Jan 29 11:47:10 <kakobrekla>	like the volume and 11.
Jan 29 11:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	ya well...
Jan 29 11:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CYaU3x_nRU
Jan 29 11:51:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1527 @ 0.00065167 = 0.9951 BTC [+]
Jan 29 11:51:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1654 @ 0.00065185 = 1.0782 BTC [+]
Jan 29 11:51:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2419 @ 0.00065289 = 1.5793 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 11:52:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00064972 = 1.9816 BTC [-]
Jan 29 11:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0006427 = 0.6427 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 12:29:32 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: mircea_popescu  is too old to understand cultural references
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Jan 29 12:38:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00065021 = 3.6737 BTC [+]
Jan 29 12:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00065281 = 1.0771 BTC [+]
Jan 29 12:47:52 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 32
Jan 29 12:47:54 <gribble>	There are currently 48702.375 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 1158562.45361 USD in total.
Jan 29 12:52:14 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 17
Jan 29 12:52:15 <gribble>	There are currently 36814.212 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 662237.029233 USD in total.
Jan 29 12:52:21 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 18
Jan 29 12:52:23 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 18.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 29 12:52:27 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 19
Jan 29 12:52:29 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 29 12:52:33 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 20
Jan 29 12:52:35 <gribble>	There are currently 15030.94 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 298647.633689 USD in total.
Jan 29 12:52:41 <thestringpuller>	geeeze
Jan 29 12:53:30 <DeadWeasel>	;bids 18
Jan 29 12:59:56 <Bugpowder>	protip : "/msg gribble ;;bids 18"
Jan 29 13:02:09 <thestringpuller>	not this again
Jan 29 13:02:18 <thestringpuller>	XP
Jan 29 13:03:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2671 @ 0.00065281 = 1.7437 BTC [+]
Jan 29 13:03:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10029 @ 0.00065289 = 6.5478 BTC [+]
Jan 29 13:03:59 <thestringpuller>	ls
Jan 29 13:08:48 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell Namworld send me an email later if I am not around so that I can get in touch with you about the vps, I wrote up everything this morning. send me a message
Jan 29 13:08:51 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Jan 29 13:18:04 <DeadWeasel>	bugpowder: mind blown, thank you!
Jan 29 13:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
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Jan 29 13:26:01 <Bugpowder>	I used to be the same way :,-D
Jan 29 13:27:57 <thestringpuller>	the same way what?
Jan 29 13:28:04 <DeadWeasel>	gotta start somewhere.
Jan 29 13:28:18 <DeadWeasel>	ignorant IRC / gribble user.  like me.
Jan 29 13:28:26 <thestringpuller>	lol
Jan 29 13:28:48 <DeadWeasel>	are there "mutual funds" for bitcoin assets?
Jan 29 13:29:12 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: will there ever be a limited number of seats to mpex?
Jan 29 13:29:19 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Jan 29 13:29:26 <kakobrekla>	most of them are accually mutual scams
Jan 29 13:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Jan 29 13:29:54 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel we're not quite there yet.
Jan 29 13:30:13 <DeadWeasel>	seems like the best way to get us ignorant folk into the game.   but maybe ignorant folk in the asset game is a bad thing.  i don't know.
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Jan 29 13:30:21 <DeadWeasel>	ok
Jan 29 13:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	it's a pretty bad thing, yes.
Jan 29 13:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	we don't yet have the infrastructure to support naive investment,
Jan 29 13:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	and for that matter naive investment doesn't work too well in fiat anyway.
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Jan 29 13:35:22 <mircea_popescu>	"Asking for up to 5btc loan- returning 3%/day in a 2-4 weeks"
Jan 29 13:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.03 ** 365
Jan 29 13:35:33 <gribble>	48482.7245275
Jan 29 13:35:39 <mircea_popescu>	could be worse...
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Jan 29 13:39:41 <DeadWeasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139755.msg1488452#msg1488452
Jan 29 13:39:43 <DeadWeasel>	ha
Jan 29 13:42:15 <jurov>	^^ Ukto
Jan 29 13:42:49 *	burnside_afk is now known as burnside
Jan 29 13:42:56 <burnside>	heh
Jan 29 13:44:24 <burnside>	willing to answer any Q's regarding how btct.co actually functions
Jan 29 13:44:57 <topace>	hmm assbot isnt announcing
Jan 29 13:45:52 <jurov>	burnside, you seem to take it rather personally
Jan 29 13:46:08 <topace>	mpex also isnt processing trades
Jan 29 13:47:18 <topace>	i placed an order, its not in my STAT and it hasnt been executed
Jan 29 13:47:33 <mod6>	did you get a receipt for your order?
Jan 29 13:47:35 <topace>	it'd be nice if the BUY response provided the order id
Jan 29 13:47:54 <topace>	Your order to BUY 3500 S.DICE @0.00750000BTC each has been received and will be processed.
Jan 29 13:48:08 <jurov>	topace, it may take 20 seconds for order to surface
Jan 29 13:48:17 <topace>	its been over a minute
Jan 29 13:48:19 <mod6>	do you have enough in your account to cover the trade?
Jan 29 13:48:23 <topace>	lol yes
Jan 29 13:48:28 <topace>	im not a newb here :p
Jan 29 13:48:33 <mod6>	ummm.
Jan 29 13:48:34 <burnside>	jurov, yeah, I do.  I don't have a pr person to set ppl straight like MP, gotta do it myself.  :(
Jan 29 13:48:44 <topace>	there was also a trade on havelock that wasnt announced by assbot
Jan 29 13:48:44 <mod6>	arnt you the guy who sent the rounded btc to mircea_popescu?
Jan 29 13:48:58 <topace>	lol no :p
Jan 29 13:49:18 <mod6>	hmm.
Jan 29 13:49:21 <mod6>	*shrug*
Jan 29 13:49:49 <jurov>	burnside, i mean what is it good for - if after having argument on irc, i'll to go to btctalk and announce there "look he said this, he is a liar, etc"
Jan 29 13:49:59 <topace>	mircea_popescu: problems?
Jan 29 13:50:10 <burnside>	well, it'd be one thing if I were here and it were an argument.  :)
Jan 29 13:50:26 <burnside>	or if he'd pm'd and said, "hey, I think there might be a hole"
Jan 29 13:50:36 <burnside>	as I've done for him a couple of times.
Jan 29 13:51:17 <burnside>	he's been on the exchange long enough to know it doesn't work like that.
Jan 29 13:51:28 <burnside>	he's intentionally doing that.
Jan 29 13:51:42 <burnside>	and it's not the first time...
Jan 29 13:51:45 <jurov>	hm, i see
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Jan 29 13:52:15 <mod6>	OH. i see what your issue is topace
Jan 29 13:52:23 <mod6>	there are asks below the amount you put in
Jan 29 13:52:49 <mod6>	if you want to buy 3500 @ market rate just do: "BUY|S.DICE|3500"
Jan 29 13:53:06 <topace>	the new pympex requires the 4th parameter
Jan 29 13:53:11 <mod6>	lol
Jan 29 13:53:13 <topace>	for the confirmation calculation
Jan 29 13:53:15 <mod6>	they're doing it wrong then
Jan 29 13:53:24 <topace>	but you can place a bid higher
Jan 29 13:53:30 <Bugpowder>	you should never use a market order, ever
Jan 29 13:53:52 <mod6>	look at the bid/ask list
Jan 29 13:53:58 <mod6>	nao
Jan 29 13:54:03 <topace>	i placed a BID for 3500 at 750000
Jan 29 13:54:08 <topace>	that should get filled
Jan 29 13:54:14 <mod6>	highest bid: .00728868 for 800
Jan 29 13:54:22 <topace>	there's asks at 729764
Jan 29 13:54:27 <mod6>	lwest ask: .00729764 for 1341
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Jan 29 13:54:30 <topace>	and a lot at 739500
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Jan 29 13:54:52 <topace>	rightm so  a bid at 750000 should eat up the asks at 0.00729764 and  0.00739500
Jan 29 13:55:10 <topace>	so, im back to where i was, there's SOMETHING WRONG with the site :p
Jan 29 13:55:14 <topace>	my order says it was placed
Jan 29 13:55:16 <topace>	but its not in my order book
Jan 29 13:55:19 <mod6>	look how many are offfered @ .00749999
Jan 29 13:55:27 <topace>	SO?
Jan 29 13:55:29 <mod6>	480`057
Jan 29 13:55:31 <mod6>	that is wy
Jan 29 13:55:33 <topace>	i placed a BID at 750000
Jan 29 13:55:33 <Bugpowder>	mod6
Jan 29 13:55:34 <topace>	BID
Jan 29 13:55:35 <mod6>	you couldn't cover the trade
Jan 29 13:55:38 <Bugpowder>	u are rong
Jan 29 13:55:46 <mircea_popescu>	topace the web servers are desynced atm
Jan 29 13:55:50 <Bugpowder>	if you can cover the trade it adjusts the number of shares
Jan 29 13:55:58 <Bugpowder>	to max you could buy
Jan 29 13:56:02 <Bugpowder>	cant
Jan 29 13:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	back soon.
Jan 29 13:56:23 <topace>	mircea_popescu: ahh, k, see, i new there was a problem :p
Jan 29 13:56:30 <Bugpowder>	I have locked myself out of my account like that before.
Jan 29 13:56:32 <mod6>	:/
Jan 29 13:57:19 <mod6>	well, sorry.
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Jan 29 13:57:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1341 @ 0.00729764 = 9.7861 BTC [-]
Jan 29 13:57:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2159 @ 0.007395 = 15.9658 BTC [+]
Jan 29 13:57:37 <topace>	there it goes :p
Jan 29 13:58:07 <Bugpowder>	did u reorder it or was it just delayed
Jan 29 14:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	just delayed
Jan 29 14:05:45 *	burnside is now known as burnside_afk
Jan 29 14:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	<topace> it'd be nice if the BUY response provided the order id << the webserver does not know what ids the orders will end up with.
Jan 29 14:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> you should never use a market order, ever << why not ?
Jan 29 14:07:49 <Bugpowder>	ok u can use one
Jan 29 14:07:54 <topace>	ahh
Jan 29 14:08:02 <topace>	so the webserver just forwards the request on
Jan 29 14:08:04 <topace>	gotcha
Jan 29 14:08:17 <Bugpowder>	dangerous in fast moving environment though
Jan 29 14:08:48 <Bugpowder>	for example S.BBET IPO
Jan 29 14:09:23 <Bugpowder>	you never know if some dude has placed a big order in front of you
Jan 29 14:09:35 <Bugpowder>	and blasts away the shares you thought you were buying
Jan 29 14:09:51 <Bugpowder>	then you end up buying S.DICE at .01 for example
Jan 29 14:10:23 <mircea_popescu>	well yes Bugpowder. this is quantum finance.
Jan 29 14:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	limit order guarantees price, doesn't guarantee execution
Jan 29 14:10:40 <mircea_popescu>	market order guarantees execution, doesn't guarantee price
Jan 29 14:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	pick your poison
Jan 29 14:11:14 <kakobrekla>	crystal meth.
Jan 29 14:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if they have crystal meth dildos on sr.
Jan 29 14:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	should be a killer product.
Jan 29 14:12:06 <kakobrekla>	would you list sr on mpex
Jan 29 14:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	mmm. kinda hard to verify their income huh
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Jan 29 14:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00065289 = 5.9413 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 14:23:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1524 @ 0.00065289 = 0.995 BTC [+]
Jan 29 14:23:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3676 @ 0.00065373 = 2.4031 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 14:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol burnside_afk and ukto having a misunderstanding ?
Jan 29 14:25:28 *	burnside_afk is now known as burnside
Jan 29 14:26:41 <burnside>	seems like it.  he has an account on the system, it's easy to see how it works.
Jan 29 14:27:08 <burnside>	I know he understands it under the hood, he coded the same stuff.
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Jan 29 14:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	i'll tell you something tho, it's good that you changed the way 7day etc volume is presented
Jan 29 14:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	the 7k@7k stuff was beyond confusing.
Jan 29 14:30:32 <burnside>	yeah, that was some good input from you guys
Jan 29 14:30:51 <burnside>	I still don't like it much, but it's better than it was
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Jan 29 14:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	also a point : () is traditionally notation for negative figures
Jan 29 14:31:32 <burnside>	yeah, one of the reasons I don't like it much.
Jan 29 14:31:57 <burnside>	I'm not sure what to do with it.  I tried <sub> and <sup> variations, etc.
Jan 29 14:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	heh. leave share count plain make btc sum bold
Jan 29 14:32:29 <burnside>	that's a good call, will give it a shot.
Jan 29 14:32:52 <mircea_popescu>	and tot volume is glbse bullshit. either 30 day or 1 year
Jan 29 14:32:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.3399 = 0.6798 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:32:57 <mircea_popescu>	"total" is absolute nonsense
Jan 29 14:33:18 <burnside>	you mean the all time total?
Jan 29 14:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	"Tot Vol"
Jan 29 14:34:25 <burnside>	that's a good point.  I had it in there before I had 30d available, kind of as a sign of "seniority".
Jan 29 14:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	ya but it leads to comparisons of unlike things
Jan 29 14:34:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
Jan 29 14:35:06 <burnside>	very true, could be dangerous
Jan 29 14:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3321 @ 0.0006427 = 2.1344 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6360 @ 0.00064239 = 4.0856 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8816 @ 0.00064194 = 5.6593 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12623 @ 0.00064175 = 8.1008 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8875 @ 0.00064129 = 5.6914 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00064011 = 6.081 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00063952 = 8.026 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10083 @ 0.00063945 = 6.4476 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00063765 = 6.3127 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7684 @ 0.00063755 = 4.8989 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006373 = 6.373 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25162 @ 0.00063728 = 16.0352 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00063715 = 6.3396 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2101 @ 0.00063681 = 1.3379 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4621 @ 0.00063663 = 2.9419 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18945 @ 0.00063637 = 12.056 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4186 @ 0.00063567 = 2.6609 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16997 @ 0.0006356 = 10.8033 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12619 @ 0.00063517 = 8.0152 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12049 @ 0.00063511 = 7.6524 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:35:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063443 = 3.9335 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:36:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2831 @ 0.00063414 = 1.7953 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:36:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4277 @ 0.00063378 = 2.7107 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8010 @ 0.00063369 = 5.0759 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2340 @ 0.00063335 = 1.482 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:36:15 <jurov>	dangerous indeed :)
Jan 29 14:36:18 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 29 14:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 29 14:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063335 / 0.0006497 / 0.00066703 (1105501 shares, 718.25 BTC), 7D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066286 / 0.0007 (23174858 shares, 15,361.69 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065485 / 0.0007 (51526236 shares, 33,742.24 BTC)
Jan 29 14:37:02 <jurov>	lol, good remark (when you see context) http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17ga7r/longtime_bitcoin_users_what_was_it_like_after_the/c85kquc
Jan 29 14:37:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006337 = 2.7382 BTC [+]
Jan 29 14:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4029 @ 0.0006335 = 2.5524 BTC [-]
Jan 29 14:37:26 <burnside>	well, one of the key things I don't want are the ponzi kind of things to take off, so tot volume on those just ends up being a promotion...
Jan 29 14:38:23 <mircea_popescu>	judging by the recent experience of the gem thingee, btc market is a lot more mature.
Jan 29 14:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	that thing'd have been so hot a coupla years ago...
Jan 29 14:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol jurov
Jan 29 14:38:51 <mircea_popescu>	queen of the snide
Jan 29 14:39:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13627 @ 0.00063351 = 8.6328 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 14:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 20 @ 0.089 = 1.78 BTC [+]
Jan 29 14:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	omfg. these actually trade ?!
Jan 29 14:44:07 <jurov>	i'm tryting to do something w/them
Jan 29 14:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	they should be pretty straightforward, i have no idea why people don't use them a lot more.
Jan 29 14:44:53 <jurov>	yes, just that trying anything beyond MAR is is just insane
Jan 29 14:45:22 <mircea_popescu>	not if you have the mining
Jan 29 14:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	if you actually have a mining farm active you can calculate both the volume and the price at which you should be buying to make a profit.
Jan 29 14:46:42 <Bugpowder>	it was a reasonable purchase
Jan 29 14:46:47 <jurov>	whether i do or not, the collateral requirement causes it to be unattractive. compared to what else can be done with the cash
Jan 29 14:46:51 <Bugpowder>	I was thinking of covering my short 20 MARs
Jan 29 14:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	triple by midmarch, i guess so
Jan 29 14:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	jurov if you have a mine you buy them not sell them
Jan 29 14:47:09 <Bugpowder>	but someone else got it I guess
Jan 29 14:47:28 <mircea_popescu>	if you have a lot of btc it makes sense to sell some, maybe
Jan 29 14:47:32 <mircea_popescu>	but the calculations are more complex.
Jan 29 14:47:33 <jurov>	ic. ust that someone has to offer them
Jan 29 14:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	one can put a bid in whether someone offers any or not
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Jan 29 14:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	i'd go as far as to say it's financially irresponsible for any large-ish mining operation to not hedge diff
Jan 29 14:49:08 <mircea_popescu>	but then again i guess miners aren't (yet) too sophisticated, financially.
Jan 29 14:50:00 <jurov>	perhaps someone can write article to btcmag with all the scenarios ELI5
Jan 29 14:50:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Jan 29 14:50:18 <jurov>	i can try ask if they'll pay me for that :p
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Jan 29 14:51:15 <mircea_popescu>	o, they pay ?!
Jan 29 14:51:28 <kakobrekla>	pirate paid.
Jan 29 14:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	cabfare or what did he payl ol
Jan 29 14:52:26 <Namworld>	pirate paid for some rum to the waiter.
Jan 29 14:52:40 <jurov>	i heard at least some ppl from mag got paid veeery nicely :D
Jan 29 14:52:49 <Namworld>	relaxing on a chair on a tropical island
Jan 29 14:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you know this reminds me of that joke, someone asks henry miller what sort of writing pays the best
Jan 29 14:53:39 <mircea_popescu>	"ransom notes"
Jan 29 14:55:52 <jurov>	okay. but really, couldn't be the futures covered by S.MPOE for example?
Jan 29 14:56:13 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean ?
Jan 29 14:57:03 <jurov>	when i do MKFUT, instead of bitcoins, mpex would get equivalent value in S.MPOE  from my acct into escrow
Jan 29 14:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	the complexities of automated actuarial calculation tho...
Jan 29 14:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	how much is stock worth ?
Jan 29 14:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	seems more logical to either sell the stock or else pledge it as collateral/repo it with someone who specializes in this
Jan 29 14:58:19 <jurov>	same as you computed the mkt cap: qty*price :D
Jan 29 14:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	im sure someone would be willing to issue short term loans against mpex assets.
Jan 29 14:59:05 <kakobrekla>	shit, it has been done with glbse assets
Jan 29 14:59:11 <kakobrekla>	why not mpex then :)
Jan 29 14:59:32 <jurov>	quite an idea. i can perhaps plunder smickles' short offering to cover IDIFFs
Jan 29 14:59:36 <mircea_popescu>	mpex actually has all the infrastructure in place, with the signed pushes
Jan 29 14:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	you can do quite advanced banking stuff on what mpex offers as is,
Jan 29 15:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	i'd wager you can implement almost all currently used wall street contract types
Jan 29 15:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	maybe except for some exoticas
Jan 29 15:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	exotics*
Jan 29 15:02:39 <jurov>	infrastructure is there. waiting for people
Jan 29 15:04:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006534 = 2.8233 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1124 @ 0.00065373 = 0.7348 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00065374 = 0.523 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5693 @ 0.00065412 = 3.7239 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 29 15:05:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00714694 / 0.00738203 / 0.007395 (85953 shares, 634.51 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00542827 / 0.0075 (1238556 shares, 6,723.23 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00431147 / 0.0075 (10632030 shares, 45,839.74 BTC)
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Jan 29 15:10:55 <smickles>	;;rate mircea_popescu 4 runs MPEx. If he scams us, it's probably a good time to shot bitcoin.
Jan 29 15:10:57 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 3 to 4.
Jan 29 15:11:22 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 29 15:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly.
Jan 29 15:11:34 <kakobrekla>	id go long-er if mp goes
Jan 29 15:11:37 <kakobrekla>	if i could.
Jan 29 15:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	whyssat ?
Jan 29 15:11:56 <kakobrekla>	cause you dont sell coins.
Jan 29 15:12:00 <kakobrekla>	:)
Jan 29 15:12:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.0075 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:13:08 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Jan 29 15:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	interesting point
Jan 29 15:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	wait. so if i keep going i benefit bitcoin through developing finance + paying mpoe-pr to aggravate forum people
Jan 29 15:14:38 <burnside>	mp, the bold volume bit looks good.  thx for that.
Jan 29 15:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	and if i run off i benefit bitcoin through decreased coin supply ?
Jan 29 15:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	what am i, mafalda ?
Jan 29 15:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	burnside it does actually look good. cool.
Jan 29 15:15:43 <DeadWeasel>	run amok, you can't lose!
Jan 29 15:15:44 <kakobrekla>	yeah, well i guess the question is
Jan 29 15:15:48 <kakobrekla>	which one of those scenarios
Jan 29 15:15:53 <kakobrekla>	has bigger weight
Jan 29 15:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	maybe i could schroedingerize.
Jan 29 15:16:43 <jcpham>	http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/article38167.html
Jan 29 15:16:50 <jcpham>	fresh water speculation
Jan 29 15:16:55 <jcpham>	been saying it for years
Jan 29 15:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	"Global Elite Rush to Control Water Worldwide"
Jan 29 15:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	dude this global elite is like global whores.
Jan 29 15:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck.
Jan 29 15:17:48 <jcpham>	air and water futures will one day rule the markets
Jan 29 15:20:40 <Diablo-D3>	so what people should do now
Jan 29 15:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	so buy mineral water
Jan 29 15:20:42 <Diablo-D3>	is start buying water and air rights
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Jan 29 15:22:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00065254 = 7.6673 BTC [-]
Jan 29 15:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065403 = 2.8261 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6579 @ 0.00065412 = 4.3035 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00065483 = 2.7503 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00065483 = 2.0627 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 15:26:50 <smickles>	< Diablo-D3> is start buying water and air rights << iirc, in 'merica those don't technically exist
Jan 29 15:27:07 <Diablo-D3>	then the rich shouldnt be able to have them either
Jan 29 15:27:30 <Diablo-D3>	you cant own something that doesnt exist, they put you in the insane asylum for talk like that
Jan 29 15:27:33 <DeadWeasel>	water rights exist.  There are places where it's illegal to collect rainwater
Jan 29 15:27:47 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: yes, and those terrorist nations should be ended
Jan 29 15:28:15 <DeadWeasel>	http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/16/man-jailed-for-collecting-rainwater-in-illegal-reservoirs-on-his-property/
Jan 29 15:28:18 <DeadWeasel>	damn right
Jan 29 15:28:25 <DeadWeasel>	it's happening naturally.
Jan 29 15:31:33 <EskimoBob>	rrr gnucash! It's multiple currency support is a joke at best
Jan 29 15:31:58 <thestringpuller>	smickles:
Jan 29 15:32:12 <thestringpuller>	you around for a moment?
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Jan 29 15:35:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00065035 = 1.886 BTC [-]
Jan 29 15:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1612 @ 0.00064706 = 1.0431 BTC [-]
Jan 29 15:37:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2709 @ 0.00064706 = 1.7529 BTC [-]
Jan 29 15:37:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2891 @ 0.00064693 = 1.8703 BTC [-]
Jan 29 15:52:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006547 = 2.829 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1479 @ 0.00065483 = 0.9685 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:53:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0261 BTC [+]
Jan 29 15:53:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 34 @ 0.026 = 0.884 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 16:01:47 <dub>	I thought water rights were a huge deal in some states
Jan 29 16:02:01 <Diablo-D3>	yes, its a huge deal because no one has any
Jan 29 16:02:22 <dub>	you have people diverting whole rivers, wasting the water because if they don't take it they'll lose the rights they bought off indians
Jan 29 16:03:55 <Schadenfreude>	Coinbr checks withdrawal requests manually before accepting them, me likey
Jan 29 16:04:30 <Diablo-D3>	Schadenfreude: no
Jan 29 16:04:34 <Diablo-D3>	coinbr PERFORMS them manually
Jan 29 16:04:41 <Diablo-D3>	its not as clever as you think it is
Jan 29 16:05:20 <Schadenfreude>	ah, I thought it's a safety feature, not a feat of laziness
Jan 29 16:05:44 <Diablo-D3>	its all about marketing
Jan 29 16:06:38 <smickles>	dub: are you sure they don't just have the right to the land, and if the river moves off the land, that's why they lost it
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Jan 29 16:07:03 <dub>	pretty sure it was all about water
Jan 29 16:07:13 <dub>	was on some natgeo docu
Jan 29 16:07:27 <dub>	focused on nevada iirc
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Jan 29 16:09:20 <dub>	http://water.nv.gov/waterrights/
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Jan 29 16:09:39 <smickles>	hmm, i wonder what I was thinking of then
Jan 29 16:10:39 <dub>	we have some interesting wine country where irrigation water comes from races built by 19th century gold miners
Jan 29 16:11:53 <dub>	the races start in snow melts and run accross many properties but are owned by the property they terminate on, and that owner has the right to do any kind of remedial works onthe other properties to ensure the supply
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Jan 29 16:13:11 <jurov>	lol, feat of laziness ;)
Jan 29 16:13:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 842 @ 0.00735836 = 6.1957 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 16:13:46 <Diablo-D3>	dub: so I'd destroy them if they were on my property
Jan 29 16:13:47 <dub>	some are little more than a 1m wide trench but worth untold millions in the wine prudction they enable
Jan 29 16:14:02 <Diablo-D3>	and then shoot anyone who trespasses on my property
Jan 29 16:14:11 <dub>	Diablo-D3: then I would show up on your property with the police and a lot of earthworking equipment to restore the damage
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Jan 29 16:14:26 <Diablo-D3>	and you would be shot for trespassing
Jan 29 16:14:27 <jurov>	in 16th century before steam engine invetion, rain actually powered water pumps in gold mines
Jan 29 16:14:27 <dub>	tearing up your vinyard in the process if you want to be a cunt about it
Jan 29 16:14:34 <jurov>	no rain = no gold
Jan 29 16:14:41 <Diablo-D3>	lol, why would I have a vinyard
Jan 29 16:14:44 <Diablo-D3>	Im not a druggy
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Jan 29 16:14:51 <Diablo-D3>	fucking druggies, just kill them all
Jan 29 16:14:52 <dub>	thiung is, because we are not Diablo-D3 everyone just gets on with shit and cooperates
Jan 29 16:15:11 <dub>	its the ~american dream
Jan 29 16:15:20 <dub>	er !american dream
Jan 29 16:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	i guess this is why Diablo-D3 doesn't have a propertah
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Jan 29 16:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 890 @ 0.0006471 = 0.5759 BTC [-]
Jan 29 16:19:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2610 @ 0.00064709 = 1.6889 BTC [-]
Jan 29 16:19:48 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: in the US, you cannot own property
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Jan 29 16:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	well what do you want, alodial title ?
Jan 29 16:20:13 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: you can, but no one will sell it to you
Jan 29 16:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	heh, dumbass spell check doesn't know what alodial is
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Jan 29 16:22:37 <Lyspooner>	hello friends
Jan 29 16:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1711 @ 0.00064709 = 1.1072 BTC [-]
Jan 29 16:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6837 @ 0.00064693 = 4.4231 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 16:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner heya
Jan 29 16:24:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065475 = 2.8292 BTC [+]
Jan 29 16:24:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4771 @ 0.00065483 = 3.1242 BTC [+]
Jan 29 16:24:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2008 @ 0.00065546 = 1.3162 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 16:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065525 = 2.8313 BTC [-]
Jan 29 16:44:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 279 @ 0.00065546 = 0.1829 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 16:51:41 <jcpham>	<jgarzik> Avalon batch email: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137534.msg1488869#msg1488869
Jan 29 16:52:04 <jcpham>	http://puu.sh/1UyQ8
Jan 29 16:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	so it hashes ?
Jan 29 16:52:54 <jborkl>	For 1 million I can make you a picture with words in it too
Jan 29 16:53:04 <jcpham>	ijs
Jan 29 16:53:16 <jcpham>	it looks like the avlon unit comes pre-flashes with openwrt
Jan 29 16:53:21 <jcpham>	if i had to guess
Jan 29 16:53:42 <jcpham>	i see 69 GH/s in cgminer do 800+ shares/min
Jan 29 16:54:01 <jcpham>	that's not a minirig and it isn't GPU's
Jan 29 16:57:10 <dub>	U is 968
Jan 29 16:57:30 <jcpham>	see i'm not even paying attention
Jan 29 16:58:06 <dub>	so they are stand alone? no host machine required?
Jan 29 16:58:33 <jcpham>	i've heard that from the beginning
Jan 29 16:58:40 <jcpham>	i didn't believe it though
Jan 29 16:59:17 <jcpham>	wrt makes sense. running cgminer on wrt has been avaialbe for a long time
Jan 29 16:59:33 <dub>	wattage is accurately reported as 'higher than 400w'
Jan 29 16:59:46 <dub>	(of course)
Jan 29 16:59:54 <jcpham>	if definitely isn't leading the power consumption race
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Jan 29 17:00:03 <dub>	typical chinese, 'of course i lied, lol'
Jan 29 17:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 29 17:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	i mean ror
Jan 29 17:00:53 <jcpham>	but out of the box ready to mine with software is a game changer
Jan 29 17:00:58 <jcpham>	if you ask me
Jan 29 17:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham someone was opining that they got 300 chips of which 10 work
Jan 29 17:01:19 <mircea_popescu>	and made 3 boxes out of them
Jan 29 17:01:51 <jcpham>	i haven't read ny of the forum fud
Jan 29 17:02:00 <jcpham>	surrounding any of the asic stuff
Jan 29 17:02:11 <dub>	I burnt out on it pretty quick
Jan 29 17:02:44 <dub>	>9000 troll to 1 usefull post
Jan 29 17:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	i get digests
Jan 29 17:02:54 <jcpham>	exactly
Jan 29 17:03:02 <dub>	you should resell those
Jan 29 17:03:08 <jcpham>	i'm not even interested in digests
Jan 29 17:03:12 <dub>	make some more money out of your girl
Jan 29 17:03:36 <jcpham>	-otc is getting or is like that now too
Jan 29 17:03:44 <dub>	>getting
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Jan 29 17:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	dub i kinda open source them
Jan 29 17:09:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.8 BTC [+]
Jan 29 17:09:49 <dub>	orly?
Jan 29 17:10:08 <dub>	HIM?
Jan 29 17:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	"ASIC's are not a natural technological generation leap like going from CPU to GPU was. ASIC's are simply specialized processing units made specifically for Bitcoin. Which i do not beleive is following the original intentions of Satoshi, for many reasons."
Jan 29 17:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	not reading the forum ? missing out.
Jan 29 17:11:33 <dub>	lol who was that?
Jan 29 17:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	a thread
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Jan 29 17:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	17k words from 17 post noob
Jan 29 17:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	knowing better about everything.
Jan 29 17:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	"Would it be even remotely possible to force the change in sha256 bitcoin algorith to something else that asic and fpga devices couldnt compute?
Jan 29 17:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	We started off with a bitcoin that anyone could use and now were forced to buy stuff we dont really want.
Jan 29 17:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	I realise that there are some ppl that allready invested in asic and fpga, but ton off ppl are unsatisfied with this.
Jan 29 17:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	Do U think btc should move away from sha256 and let "normal" people the chance ?"
Jan 29 17:13:08 <mircea_popescu>	i have a special section "top 5 most idiotic things"
Jan 29 17:15:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 112 @ 0.0089 = 0.9968 BTC [-]
Jan 29 17:15:34 <jurov>	they'll rather whine instead of improving litecoin
Jan 29 17:15:50 <jcpham>	where did that text come from
Jan 29 17:16:36 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham the forum
Jan 29 17:17:07 <Lyspooner>	let's go to sha 257
Jan 29 17:17:15 <Lyspooner>	asics won't stand a chance
Jan 29 17:17:16 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu but 16 posts means he learned a lot about the bitty coins
Jan 29 17:17:18 <jcpham>	and the asics
Jan 29 17:17:32 <mircea_popescu>	yes i agree
Jan 29 17:18:57 <mircea_popescu>	actually https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139704.msg1488175#msg1488175 thats pretty good
Jan 29 17:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	chinese scammer impersonating or actualy avalon guy scamming ?
Jan 29 17:20:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 798 @ 0.01 = 7.98 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 17:22:06 <thestringpuller>	 
Jan 29 17:22:06 <thestringpuller>	chinese scammer impersonating or actualy
Jan 29 17:22:19 <thestringpuller>	avalon guy scamming ? << futurama fry right there
Jan 29 17:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	i never watched that 1
Jan 29 17:24:17 <Namworld>	people need more BTC-BOND
Jan 29 17:24:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0075 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 17:35:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 258 @ 0.00730771 = 1.8854 BTC [-]
Jan 29 17:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00734366 = 2.2031 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 17:39:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6992 @ 0.00065546 = 4.583 BTC [+]
Jan 29 17:39:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4088 @ 0.00065567 = 2.6804 BTC [+]
Jan 29 17:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	anyone here can give me some data on mining implements ?
Jan 29 17:42:12 <EskimoBob>	good news, ART second offer is sold out before it even started :)
Jan 29 17:42:23 <EskimoBob>	50K shares are all gone
Jan 29 17:42:23 <Bugpowder>	So are the taking the second order money before anyone confirms receiving a functional unit?
Jan 29 17:42:33 <EskimoBob>	cheers and thank you all who participated
Jan 29 17:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	trying to.
Jan 29 17:42:38 <Bugpowder>	Go Eskimo!
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Jan 29 17:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;help
Jan 29 17:43:13 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Jan 29 17:43:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00064923 = 3.7331 BTC [-]
Jan 29 17:43:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064699 = 2.7956 BTC [-]
Jan 29 17:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00064693 = 3.4798 BTC [-]
Jan 29 17:47:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [-]
Jan 29 17:49:27 <Ukto>	since this channel was quoted into fhe forums, I responded and am posting that response here. Perhaps someone will quote this line as well. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139755.msg1489006#msg1489006
Jan 29 17:50:28 <Ukto>	Namworld: btw, I think those bonus divs were a great use of the pre-timed payouts to get some sales. I think it helped alot for getting shares out. :)
Jan 29 17:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 185
Jan 29 17:53:35 <gribble>	185
Jan 29 17:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,diff 185
Jan 29 17:53:40 <gribble>	2968775.3320751
Jan 29 17:53:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,calc 185
Jan 29 17:53:46 <gribble>	use the 'gentime' command instead
Jan 29 17:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;gentime 185000
Jan 29 17:53:53 <gribble>	The average time to generate a block at 185000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 2968775.33208, is 19 hours, 8 minutes, and 44 seconds
Jan 29 17:53:56 <Namworld>	yeah. Well I had indeed made great profit trading options...
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Jan 29 17:54:43 <Namworld>	Bonuses I give on BTC-BOND are a very small fraction of what I make.
Jan 29 17:56:29 <Ukto>	and its not required, so its pretty cool :)
Jan 29 17:57:00 <Ukto>	reminds me of when I had my JAH shares on glbse, and rasta paid divs nightly, even though he only had to paid weekly.
Jan 29 18:01:30 <burnside>	Ukto, just so we're clear.  Anytime you post something that is incorrect, wrong, or misleading, I'm going to post a follow up with the truth.  If that bothers you, I'm sorry, but it has to be done.  If you don't want to be called a liar, then don't say definitively that something is true when it is not.
Jan 29 18:02:32 <Ukto>	ah, how about a rebuttle where the statement was?
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Jan 29 18:02:39 <Ukto>	A bit overkill for forums isnt it?
Jan 29 18:02:44 <Ukto>	for something that to this moment looks to be ture?
Jan 29 18:02:46 <Ukto>	true?
Jan 29 18:03:11 <Ukto>	still have no idea what asking about outstanding shares has to do with lieing or fud
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Jan 29 18:03:29 <Ukto>	unless your whole goal is to troll and try to make me look bad ?
Jan 29 18:04:01 <burnside>	How could it look to be true that the order book is not backed?  Orders you cannot afford get canceled... the functionality is plain and simple.  And, you did not even try it?
Jan 29 18:04:18 <burnside>	The looking bad part I think you accomplish just fine on your own.
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Jan 29 18:04:25 <Ukto>	i cant force wsomeone to buy my shares.
Jan 29 18:04:47 <Ukto>	so if I have 20btc, and put 6 5btc bids on assets
Jan 29 18:04:49 <Ukto>	and one clears
Jan 29 18:04:51 <Ukto>	which ones get canceled?
Jan 29 18:04:52 <pigeons>	i'll try it now
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Jan 29 18:04:58 <Ukto>	all of them?
Jan 29 18:05:03 <jcpham>	go go gadget pigeons
Jan 29 18:05:09 <burnside>	you can't put 6 4 btc bids with 20 btc...
Jan 29 18:05:12 <pigeons>	the question is when do orders you can't afford get cancelled
Jan 29 18:05:16 <burnside>	errr, 6 5 btc bids
Jan 29 18:05:23 <Ukto>	fine, call it 30
Jan 29 18:05:27 <Ukto>	wel
Jan 29 18:05:28 <Ukto>	actually
Jan 29 18:05:29 <Ukto>	why not?
Jan 29 18:05:33 <Ukto>	you reserves are per asset
Jan 29 18:05:34 <Ukto>	right?
Jan 29 18:05:38 <Ukto>	or did deprived lie?
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Jan 29 18:05:48 <burnside>	across assets, sure, but not on the same asset
Jan 29 18:05:52 <TradeFortress>	*grabs popcorn*
Jan 29 18:05:53 <Ukto>	i never said same asset
Jan 29 18:05:55 <Ukto>	so lets go back to $20
Jan 29 18:05:56 <Ukto>	er
Jan 29 18:05:57 <Ukto>	20btc
Jan 29 18:06:01 <Ukto>	6 5btc bids
Jan 29 18:06:03 <Ukto>	6 assets
Jan 29 18:06:06 <Ukto>	one clears
Jan 29 18:06:09 <burnside>	yes, the rest of how it works has been beaten to death
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Jan 29 18:06:12 <Ukto>	are all canceled?
Jan 29 18:06:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 200 @ 0.01 = 2 BTC [+]
Jan 29 18:06:16 <burnside>	I get that you don't like it.
Jan 29 18:06:23 <Ukto>	answer my question
Jan 29 18:06:28 <Ukto>	one 5btc order clears
Jan 29 18:06:32 <pigeons>	ok it cancelled other orders
Jan 29 18:06:32 <Ukto>	are all teh rest canceled?
Jan 29 18:06:36 <pigeons>	as for how it chose
Jan 29 18:06:38 <Ukto>	pigeons: all of them ?
Jan 29 18:06:43 <Ukto>	or just random
Jan 29 18:06:53 <pigeons>	it isn't transparent how it chose
Jan 29 18:06:54 <burnside>	ahh, good question.  on the bids side your highest bids get canceled.
Jan 29 18:06:58 <burnside>	in order
Jan 29 18:07:05 <Ukto>	ahh, and its instant?
Jan 29 18:07:08 <burnside>	yes
Jan 29 18:07:08 <pigeons>	nope not all of them
Jan 29 18:07:11 <Ukto>	apparently from the sound of pigeons
Jan 29 18:07:11 <burnside>	it's part of the order process
Jan 29 18:07:21 <burnside>	and not all of them, just the ones you can no longer afford
Jan 29 18:07:34 <pigeons>	when it accepts your order it cancells others for insufficient funds
Jan 29 18:07:39 <burnside>	yes
Jan 29 18:07:48 <Ukto>	yup, thats cool and nice to know
Jan 29 18:07:53 <pigeons>	just don't accept the order
Jan 29 18:07:54 <Ukto>	but not what I was going on about. :)
Jan 29 18:08:16 <Ukto>	I was saying that in my opinion i feel its a lie to show X btc worth on the books when its not actually there
Jan 29 18:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4100 @ 0.007395 = 30.3195 BTC [+]
Jan 29 18:08:26 <Ukto>	and can be abused for pumping
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Jan 29 18:08:33 <Ukto>	whcih is why the major stock exchange do not do it
Jan 29 18:08:40 <burnside>	I thought about that pigeons, but that's a ui issue where I decided that the order they're placing should rank higher than orders they already had.  (what they want to do NOW outranks what they wanted to do yesterday.)
Jan 29 18:09:03 <Namworld>	How is it a lie? all bids on the book can be filled right away
Jan 29 18:09:04 <Ukto>	so the question is
Jan 29 18:09:06 <pigeons>	sometimes you guestimate, if it lets me do it i mathjed right, not here ;)
Jan 29 18:09:18 <Namworld>	It can just removes demand on other assets at the same time.
Jan 29 18:09:21 <Ukto>	Namworld: so all 6 of my 5btc pids could instnatly be filled even tho I have 20btc?
Jan 29 18:09:35 <Namworld>	no
Jan 29 18:09:39 <pigeons>	its not fake cause it cancels immediately i agree, but also i dont think its user friendly, shouldnt accept the order
Jan 29 18:09:40 <Ukto>	so say I am dumping my shares of all my assets
Jan 29 18:09:48 <TradeFortress>	inb4 race attack causes account balance to go negative
Jan 29 18:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00065006 = 3.8679 BTC [+]
Jan 29 18:09:50 <burnside>	locking on the backend would essentially work such that only your first 20btc of bids would go through
Jan 29 18:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1464 @ 0.00064716 = 0.9474 BTC [-]
Jan 29 18:10:00 <Ukto>	i look, and see hey, if i sell 500 share sof each asset, i should get X
Jan 29 18:10:03 <Ukto>	i start with asset A
Jan 29 18:10:09 <Ukto>	i goto asset B
Jan 29 18:10:12 <Ukto>	and now low and behold
Jan 29 18:10:22 <Ukto>	the books are dramatically changed
Jan 29 18:10:25 <burnside>	some bids have vanished, yes.
Jan 29 18:10:28 <Ukto>	and now I cant get what I expected
Jan 29 18:10:32 <Ukto>	because it wasnt actually there
Jan 29 18:10:44 <Ukto>	you could play games
Jan 29 18:10:53 <Ukto>	and say its no diff than a bot auto moving orders
Jan 29 18:10:57 <Ukto>	but there is a level of expectancy
Jan 29 18:11:02 <Ukto>	so that is my opinion
Jan 29 18:11:10 <Ukto>	that is it a lie.
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Jan 29 18:11:29 <burnside>	that's always the case though, on a larger exchange the books are always changing.
Jan 29 18:11:30 <Ukto>	as a trader, I like to know that the books are there
Jan 29 18:11:40 <burnside>	it's accurate as of when you load the book
Jan 29 18:11:42 <Ukto>	and that my own actions are not damanging other possible actions
Jan 29 18:11:46 <Namworld>	yeah. Orderbook is true only for the asset you're currently looking at... I don't see the problem with bids on other assets disappearing upon filling that orderbook
Jan 29 18:11:55 <Ukto>	Namworld: that is true.
Jan 29 18:12:01 <Ukto>	thus it is my opinion
Jan 29 18:12:05 <Namworld>	It only prevents evaluating all orderbooks at once
Jan 29 18:12:06 <Ukto>	and how I feel about it. :)
Jan 29 18:12:07 <Ukto>	and that is yours
Jan 29 18:12:24 <Ukto>	Yup
Jan 29 18:12:35 <Namworld>	but evaluating one individually will always show an accurate orderbook and that's all I care about.
Jan 29 18:12:35 <burnside>	we don't make any claims anywhere for "XX in bids are up across the whole exchange RIGHT NOW"
Jan 29 18:12:38 <Ukto>	I think, also to some degree, it misrepresents market size as well
Jan 29 18:12:46 <pigeons>	i just spent 2 btc on btc-bond to learn how this works
Jan 29 18:13:03 <burnside>	heh, thanks pigeons, we need the volume!
Jan 29 18:13:14 <Namworld>	It works by giving you 0.0006 BTC daily
Jan 29 18:13:35 <burnside>	errr, assbot has been pretty quiet tho
Jan 29 18:13:37 <Ukto>	:)
Jan 29 18:13:55 <Namworld>	on 2 BTC
Jan 29 18:13:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.0006543 = 6.4776 BTC [+]
Jan 29 18:13:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065561 = 2.8329 BTC [+]
Jan 29 18:13:58 <Ukto>	So in the end, I told the truth, that you can set bids on a per asset basis, right?
Jan 29 18:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 928 @ 0.00065567 = 0.6085 BTC [+]
Jan 29 18:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6515 @ 0.00065602 = 4.274 BTC [+]
Jan 29 18:14:11 <Namworld>	yes
Jan 29 18:14:27 <burnside>	no, you lied.  you stated unequivocally that you could place 100 btc bids on all assets, withdraw 100 btc, and all your bids would remain.
Jan 29 18:14:46 <Namworld>	whut? O.o
Jan 29 18:14:49 <Ukto>	and I put in my reubutle it was based on what I could see
Jan 29 18:14:54 <Ukto>	and what your system showed
Jan 29 18:15:01 <Ukto>	which you stated was accurate
Jan 29 18:15:02 <burnside>	[12:05] <Ukto> on btct, I can fill my account with 100btc, put up to 100btc orders on each asset, and withdraw the 100btc
Jan 29 18:15:25 <burnside>	[12:05] <Ukto> and then its a complete, lie
Jan 29 18:15:44 <burnside>	[12:06] <Ukto> Regardless of 'pumping the numbers', i think traders have a right to knwo that a bid is actually backed, and not just a fake number on the books.
Jan 29 18:15:53 <burnside>	ALL bids are backed.
Jan 29 18:15:59 <burnside>	as of the time you load the book
Jan 29 18:16:01 <Ukto>	on a per asset basis
Jan 29 18:16:11 <Ukto>	when looking at the overall market page
Jan 29 18:16:14 <Ukto>	its incorrect then
Jan 29 18:16:40 <Ukto>	When you withdraw or transfer it cancels your orders you can no longer afford.  Plain.  Simple.  Effective.  I even have a display on the withdrawal page clearly showing the maximum you can withdraw without orders getting canceled -- AND, this behavior has been discussed to death in the btct/litecoinglobal threads.
Jan 29 18:16:46 <burnside>	I don't say anything about bid depth or order depth on the market.
Jan 29 18:16:53 <Ukto>	Clearly, plain and simple.. wow... that must be the cause of the problem right there.
Jan 29 18:16:54 <Ukto>	I have 35.5 btc in my account, I have a 35btc order up for a security right now.
Jan 29 18:16:54 <Ukto>	The withdraw page clearly, plainly, and simply says I have 35.5btc available to withdraw. No further details.
Jan 29 18:17:10 <Ukto>	you state current bid price
Jan 29 18:17:20 <Ukto>	which if one of those is touched, could drasticlly change others
Jan 29 18:17:24 <Ukto>	but
Jan 29 18:17:27 <Ukto>	thats not here nor there
Jan 29 18:17:32 <Ukto>	as has been said
Jan 29 18:17:39 <Ukto>	we all have our diff opinions on it
Jan 29 18:17:47 <burnside>	"No further details" is another piece of FUD.  right below the max withdraw: "On the Order Book: YY BTC (not on the order book: XX-YY BTC)"
Jan 29 18:18:00 <Ukto>	the word max is not on my page
Jan 29 18:18:30 <TradeFortress>	withdrawing is just like automated cancellations
Jan 29 18:19:46 <burnside>	The withdrawal page => https://btct.co/transfers
Jan 29 18:19:51 <burnside>	We only have one...
Jan 29 18:19:56 <Ukto>	https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ruh8ax2w9vwgdj/withdraw.png
Jan 29 18:19:59 <Ukto>	nothing about a max
Jan 29 18:20:02 <Ukto>	it just give sme a balance
Jan 29 18:20:15 <burnside>	lol
Jan 29 18:20:26 <burnside>	you have to set a withdrawal address before withdrawal is even available...
Jan 29 18:20:27 <Ukto>	nothing about order cancelation
Jan 29 18:20:28 <Ukto>	etc
Jan 29 18:20:35 <Ukto>	it doesnt say its not available
Jan 29 18:20:50 <Ukto>	sorry if the site is confusing
Jan 29 18:21:15 <burnside>	obviously any withdrawal is unavailable until you set an address, it says it in plain english...
Jan 29 18:21:31 <Ukto>	sure
Jan 29 18:21:48 <burnside>	"Withdrawal becomes available once you have set your withdrawal address"
Jan 29 18:21:52 <Ukto>	Yup
Jan 29 18:21:57 <Ukto>	glad it will be an option
Jan 29 18:22:04 <Ukto>	i'll take my 35btc. ;)
Jan 29 18:22:09 <Ukto>	when I am ready
Jan 29 18:22:12 <Ukto>	as i said, I was talking
Jan 29 18:22:13 <Ukto>	pure chat
Jan 29 18:22:14 <Ukto>	in here
Jan 29 18:22:22 <Ukto>	with a couple people
Jan 29 18:22:38 <Ukto>	if it was someone else
Jan 29 18:22:45 <Ukto>	would you have taken it to the forums
Jan 29 18:22:50 <Ukto>	and called them a liar?
Jan 29 18:22:54 <Ukto>	for making a simple mistake?
Jan 29 18:23:01 <Ukto>	because there is no documentation anywhere on yoru site
Jan 29 18:23:03 <Ukto>	on what happens
Jan 29 18:23:05 <Ukto>	and how it happens
Jan 29 18:23:12 <Ukto>	no
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Jan 29 18:23:15 <Ukto>	you are picking on me specifically
Jan 29 18:23:18 <Ukto>	to lower my credibility.
Jan 29 18:23:27 <Ukto>	so just stop. k? :)
Jan 29 18:23:41 <burnside>	I'll be honest, I hold you to a higher standard.  There was no simple mistake.  What you stated was not true and you stated it clearly, intentionally, and in a way that damages the company.
Jan 29 18:23:52 <Ukto>	hmm
Jan 29 18:23:56 <Ukto>	soudns liek things you have done on teh forums
Jan 29 18:24:06 <Ukto>	guess were both the same. :)
Jan 29 18:24:20 <Ukto>	except I was just talking with a few friends
Jan 29 18:24:23 <Ukto>	in an irc channel
Jan 29 18:24:30 <Ukto>	where you have gone out of your way to make false assertions
Jan 29 18:24:33 <Ukto>	in public view
Jan 29 18:24:40 <burnside>	that may be, but I don't think so.  I haven't made anything up about BitFunder and stated it as fact.
Jan 29 18:25:00 <Ukto>	sigh
Jan 29 18:25:17 <Ukto>	then you really dont realize when you make false assertions ?
Jan 29 18:25:24 <Ukto>	this is really a matter of not thinking things through ?
Jan 29 18:25:55 <Ukto>	or cecking facts before making statements?
Jan 29 18:26:11 <Ukto>	Apparently that was me when just talking on irc
Jan 29 18:26:20 <Ukto>	as I clicked through things
Jan 29 18:26:25 <Ukto>	trying to udnerstand something that was not documented
Jan 29 18:26:29 <burnside>	I've made lots of mistakes, mostly in terms of getting sucked into petty bickering.
Jan 29 18:26:39 <Ukto>	but your the one who continues it
Jan 29 18:26:40 <Ukto>	and starts it
Jan 29 18:26:52 <Ukto>	and the puts it out for EVERYONE to see
Jan 29 18:27:07 <burnside>	I think we've come full circle: [15:00] <burnside> Ukto, just so we're clear.  Anytime you post something that is incorrect, wrong, or misleading, I'm going to post a follow up with the truth.  If that bothers you, I'm sorry, but it has to be done.  If you don't want to be called a liar, then don't say definitively that something is true when it is not.
Jan 29 18:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2857 @ 0.00064716 = 1.8489 BTC [-]
Jan 29 18:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 293 @ 0.00064693 = 0.1896 BTC [-]
Jan 29 18:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00064434 = 5.5735 BTC [-]
Jan 29 18:28:11 <Ukto>	Alright, so from now on when I ask any questions about your site which does some very unconvential things w/o any supportive documentation, i will create a new irc user
Jan 29 18:28:19 <Ukto>	so you dont have to hold it to your high standards
Jan 29 18:28:27 <Ukto>	and expectancy to be able to read your mind
Jan 29 18:28:30 <Namworld>	Ukto, put a withdrawal address and check the form that appears...
Jan 29 18:28:31 <burnside>	Heh, how very upright of you.
Jan 29 18:28:31 <Ukto>	and do everything you expect them to do
Jan 29 18:28:37 <Ukto>	Namworld: yes, i see that now
Jan 29 18:28:38 <Namworld>	and take a screenshot again...
Jan 29 18:28:51 <Ukto>	Namworld: as I said, I was just ahving a discussion here on irc
Jan 29 18:28:55 <Ukto>	if you for example or someone else had said
Jan 29 18:29:04 <Ukto>	"hey, actually it should cancel"\
Jan 29 18:29:10 <Ukto>	"should show a max withdraw"
Jan 29 18:29:12 <Ukto>	or something
Jan 29 18:29:18 <Ukto>	i would have said "oh, let me check"
Jan 29 18:29:28 <Ukto>	just like when you answered my question about outstanding shares
Jan 29 18:29:29 <burnside>	this is a public chan, just as public as the forums.  if you want the privacy (and to spread the FUD privately) you can pm anyone you want about it.
Jan 29 18:29:30 <Ukto>	and how it worked
Jan 29 18:30:02 <Ukto>	burnside: you should post a live irc log on btct
Jan 29 18:30:03 <Ukto>	:)
Jan 29 18:30:21 <Ukto>	i will get you a list of all bitcoin related channels
Jan 29 18:30:28 <Ukto>	so you can monitor them all
Jan 29 18:30:35 <Ukto>	and even the ones on all the other networks
Jan 29 18:30:46 <Ukto>	so you can critisize any and all users
Jan 29 18:30:51 <Ukto>	that make a simple misudnerstanding of your site
Jan 29 18:31:06 <Ukto>	you admitted it yourself, youy hold me in higher regards and expectancies
Jan 29 18:31:11 <Ukto>	but I am no different then another btct user
Jan 29 18:31:24 <Ukto>	i look for the same documentation to yoru custom stuff
Jan 29 18:31:28 <Ukto>	i use the same interface
Jan 29 18:31:33 <Ukto>	i get confused just as easily as others would
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Jan 29 18:31:58 <Ukto>	as Namworld said, he had to spend nearly $40 to understnad your system
Jan 29 18:32:00 <burnside>	There's no confusion in stating as fact something that is not true, nor possible.
Jan 29 18:32:00 <Ukto>	and how it worked
Jan 29 18:32:08 <Ukto>	i dont know whats possible
Jan 29 18:32:10 <Ukto>	where is it in the faq?
Jan 29 18:32:21 <Ukto>	as I said
Jan 29 18:32:23 <Ukto>	i put in the post
Jan 29 18:32:26 <Ukto>	I should have wrote "could"
Jan 29 18:32:29 <Ukto>	instead of "can"
Jan 29 18:32:35 <Ukto>	your nitpicking
Jan 29 18:32:55 <Ukto>	and over dramatizing something
Jan 29 18:33:24 <Ukto>	you wanna defend yourself, then defend yourself to the people that i outright lied to
Jan 29 18:33:35 <Ukto>	you dont have to go "WOH IS ME" to the whole world
Jan 29 18:33:38 <Ukto>	and seek attention
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Jan 29 18:35:24 <Namworld>	[18:31] <Ukto> as Namworld said, he had to spend nearly $40 to understnad your system
Jan 29 18:35:30 <Namworld>	I never said that O.o
Jan 29 18:36:00 <burnside>	I'd rather not end up with all this attention.  But I can't leave other users confused based on posts of a competing exchange operator.  You of all people should be able to wrap your brain around that.
Jan 29 18:37:00 <burnside>	I think it was pigeons that said that he'd spent 2 BTC making trades to test Ukto's statements.
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Jan 29 18:38:05 <Ukto>	ah
Jan 29 18:38:13 <Ukto>	might have been, will scroll back up
Jan 29 18:38:21 <Ukto>	Namworld: sorry if i misread that  :)
Jan 29 18:38:35 <Ukto>	yeah, it was. [17:14] <pigeons> i just spent 2 btc on btc-bond to learn how this works
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Jan 29 19:04:31 <dub>	this just in, IRC is srs bzns
Jan 29 19:07:55 <error4733>	hey, totally off topic, a friend made some  wallet with old audio tape, i found this awesome, so i share ;)
Jan 29 19:08:08 <error4733>	http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/moq5ne52uqq4505whye4bycvb7oolwt8
Jan 29 19:11:25 <dub>	looks like two iphone cases stuck together
Jan 29 19:12:12 <dub>	pretty cool though
Jan 29 19:15:38 <Ukto>	actually
Jan 29 19:15:40 <Ukto>	thts pretty neat
Jan 29 19:15:42 <Ukto>	very retro
Jan 29 19:15:47 <Ukto>	I bet they would sell like hotcakes
Jan 29 19:16:02 <Ukto>	wonder if hw would consider marketing em? :)
Jan 29 19:16:12 <Ukto>	i think teens would like em
Jan 29 19:16:19 <Ukto>	mid/late teens, mebbe early 20s
Jan 29 19:16:35 <dub>	I think you mean 'hipsters'
Jan 29 19:16:44 <Ukto>	yeah hehe
Jan 29 19:16:54 <Ukto>	esp. if you can "build your own" selecinting diff tapes, colors etc on the site
Jan 29 19:17:27 <kakobrekla>	the result of that would be a bunch of ugly wallets
Jan 29 19:17:32 <kakobrekla>	better to stick with the plan
Jan 29 19:17:39 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 29 19:17:48 <duketogo>	the tapes will all have to be bands that "nobody has heard about"
Jan 29 19:18:07 <Ukto>	duketogo: you think so? :/
Jan 29 19:18:14 <Ukto>	I figured if they actually bought the tapes and had receipts
Jan 29 19:18:22 <Ukto>	and just destroyed them it was fair game
Jan 29 19:18:27 <Ukto>	rather than making fake dupes
Jan 29 19:18:28 <dub>	you can buy tapes?
Jan 29 19:18:31 <Ukto>	sure, ebay
Jan 29 19:18:33 <Ukto>	can buy in bulk
Jan 29 19:18:46 <kakobrekla>	resell the case to one party and the music rights to another
Jan 29 19:19:03 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: not sure end users can just split the rights like that tho :/
Jan 29 19:19:18 <kakobrekla>	is not split
Jan 29 19:19:57 <dub>	I thought duketogo was talking about the hipsters desire to be original by listening to obscure shit
Jan 29 19:20:08 <error4733>	maybe put the music in a usb stick and you sell with the wallet
Jan 29 19:20:23 <error4733>	if its a specific band
Jan 29 19:20:42 <duketogo>	aye, the hipster will not want to be seen with a tape wallet featuring a band that had any kind of commercial success ;)
Jan 29 19:21:06 <dub>	preferrably put a small amount of explosives in there instead of a usb stick to incinerate the hipster
Jan 29 19:21:17 <error4733>	and yes obv he want marketing em but the prob is the production
Jan 29 19:21:27 <error4733>	he made this one by one
Jan 29 19:21:40 <dub>	the other problem of course is what a hipster needs a wallet for?
Jan 29 19:22:03 <error4733>	put some paper wallet inside ?
Jan 29 19:22:12 <dub>	money? mom buys everythign
Jan 29 19:22:33 <error4733>	i got one but i'm not a fking hipsters
Jan 29 19:23:14 <kakobrekla>	i got one too, if we are talking about moms.
Jan 29 19:25:03 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139763.0
Jan 29 19:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064455 = 2.7851 BTC [+]
Jan 29 19:25:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.00064434 = 2.3061 BTC [-]
Jan 29 19:25:38 <kakobrekla>	fuckin genious.
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Jan 29 19:26:50 <kakobrekla>	>>its also a good game choice I think as its not totally trivial to create a bot for it.
Jan 29 19:26:56 <kakobrekla>	well we shall see about that soon
Jan 29 19:27:06 <dub>	hehe Challenge Accepted
Jan 29 19:28:06 <Namworld>	fuck... can someone make me an uber competent bot?
Jan 29 19:28:27 <Namworld>	=P
Jan 29 19:28:35 <kakobrekla>	like one that makes you breakfast and gives head?
Jan 29 19:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/how-to-hedge-as-a-miner/
Jan 29 19:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	everyone that comprehends mining plz to read and comment
Jan 29 19:30:09 <dub>	13w/gh!
Jan 29 19:30:14 <dub>	yes plox
Jan 29 19:31:19 <mircea_popescu>	what, bfl does 1 w/gh :D
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Jan 29 19:47:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0073845 = 3.6923 BTC [-]
Jan 29 19:48:14 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17j3y2/how_to_hedge_as_a_miner/
Jan 29 19:48:16 <smickles>	:P
Jan 29 19:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	eee
Jan 29 19:48:46 <kakobrekla>	they wont get it.
Jan 29 19:49:12 <mircea_popescu>	;/
Jan 29 19:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	not even with drawrinks!?
Jan 29 19:49:51 <kakobrekla>	lets be suprised
Jan 29 19:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00064667 = 2.0693 BTC [+]
Jan 29 19:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	well wtf am i to do.
Jan 29 19:50:48 <kakobrekla>	bet on it.
Jan 29 19:50:59 <smickles>	kakobrekla: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/17j454/how_to_hedge_as_a_miner_xpost/
Jan 29 19:51:05 <smickles>	:P
Jan 29 19:51:44 <kakobrekla>	dunno.
Jan 29 19:52:28 <kakobrekla>	anyone got anything good to watch for reccomendation
Jan 29 19:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	danke smickles
Jan 29 19:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla try all about eve
Jan 29 19:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/category/trilematograf/ or just go through that list
Jan 29 19:53:12 <kakobrekla>	140min
Jan 29 19:53:19 <kakobrekla>	really worth it?
Jan 29 19:53:43 <smickles>	tinkerlinks, ftw
Jan 29 19:53:45 <smickles>	srsly
Jan 29 19:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla welll... i dunno really what you like
Jan 29 19:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064461 = 2.7854 BTC [-]
Jan 29 19:54:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5271 @ 0.00064434 = 3.3963 BTC [-]
Jan 29 19:54:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00064374 = 4.4418 BTC [-]
Jan 29 19:54:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00063666 = 1.1778 BTC [-]
Jan 29 19:54:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12058 @ 0.00063598 = 7.6686 BTC [-]
Jan 29 19:54:25 <kakobrekla>	dunno borrig stuff i think.
Jan 29 19:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	bah i stay up to write docs for miners, ppl sell mpoe. THIS IS THE THANKS I GET!
Jan 29 19:55:12 <smickles>	don't look at me, i just leveraged long
Jan 29 19:55:53 <assbot>	 I cooked, I cleaned, and I sewed, and I have a right to get--
Jan 29 19:56:46 <smickles>	is this a fill in the blank?
Jan 29 19:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	ducked ?
Jan 29 19:56:59 <smickles>	crunk?
Jan 29 19:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	pluived ?
Jan 29 19:57:32 <kakobrekla>	no
Jan 29 19:57:40 <smickles>	refactored?
Jan 29 19:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> this just in, IRC is srs bzns
Jan 29 19:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	loller.
Jan 29 19:59:56 <smickles>	oh no
Jan 29 20:00:10 <kakobrekla>	smickles the answer is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zgXnSKgopY
Jan 29 20:00:12 <smickles>	i might be shadow-banned on reddit?
Jan 29 20:00:46 <smickles>	kakobrekla: linked to blocked content?
Jan 29 20:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i saw your link earlier
Jan 29 20:01:18 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: that's just it, direct links work, but check the /r/bitcoin page or the /r/bitcoin/new
Jan 29 20:01:21 <smickles>	not there
Jan 29 20:01:46 <kakobrekla>	i guess you could replace -- with 'shit'.
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Jan 29 20:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/new?sort=new
Jan 29 20:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	or here
Jan 29 20:03:53 <kakobrekla>	smickles huh?
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Jan 29 20:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00732036 = 12.4446 BTC [-]
Jan 29 20:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.007395 = 1.1093 BTC [+]
Jan 29 20:05:27 <dub>	might be blocked in 'murica, cuts a little close to home
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Jan 29 20:05:50 <kakobrekla>	too bad
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Jan 29 20:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	im off. take it ezzy all
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Jan 29 20:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00063718 = 5.6072 BTC [+]
Jan 29 20:44:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2168 @ 0.00064667 = 1.402 BTC [+]
Jan 29 20:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064977 = 2.8077 BTC [+]
Jan 29 20:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13196 @ 0.00064997 = 8.577 BTC [+]
Jan 29 20:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1083 @ 0.0006526 = 0.7068 BTC [+]
Jan 29 20:51:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 24 @ 0.14224671 = 3.4139 BTC [-]
Jan 29 20:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 307 @ 0.14196278 = 43.5826 BTC [-]
Jan 29 20:51:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 21 @ 0.16193811 = 3.4007 BTC [-]
Jan 29 20:51:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 306 @ 0.16161488 = 49.4542 BTC [-]
Jan 29 20:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 322 @ 0.18387964 = 59.2092 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 21:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064928 = 2.8055 BTC [-]
Jan 29 21:03:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00064918 = 3.9464 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 21:06:10 <usagi>	hi
Jan 29 21:06:32 <jcpham>	so what do you think usagi?
Jan 29 21:07:11 <usagi>	there's something weird happening in the markets
Jan 29 21:07:16 <usagi>	I may have invented a new technical indicator
Jan 29 21:07:34 <usagi>	Usually when you run analysis on the market you don't see a straight predictable line
Jan 29 21:07:35 <jcpham>	inverted duck?
Jan 29 21:07:42 <usagi>	When you see that you know you have something very special
Jan 29 21:08:00 <jcpham>	oh noes not straight to the moon?
Jan 29 21:08:32 <usagi>	all straight lines end at the moon depending if you go long or short. And as everyone knows, I am tsukino ohimesama
Jan 29 21:08:59 <usagi>	Dunno if it keeps up like this im going to place a very large order
Jan 29 21:09:21 <Namworld>	What are you rambling about?
Jan 29 21:09:21 <jcpham>	based on this new data i must dust off my spacesuit
Jan 29 21:09:26 <jcpham>	and buy $20 coins
Jan 29 21:09:51 <usagi>	Just market moves, namworld. BTC price is rising steadily
Jan 29 21:10:36 <Namworld>	nah, it's waiting for someone with a few 100k BTC stash to say: oh nice... look at those price increases...
Jan 29 21:10:48 <Namworld>	and sell off his BTC, increasing supply
Jan 29 21:10:52 <usagi>	But that's what I am talking about.
Jan 29 21:11:37 <usagi>	I found an indicator that looks like no one is using it, in a few more days I'll publish it
Jan 29 21:11:43 <usagi>	if its true
Jan 29 21:12:40 <pigeons>	NO indicators are true, except when they are
Jan 29 21:13:50 <usagi>	pigeons is right.
Jan 29 21:14:47 <pigeons>	omg, usagi accidentaly figured out how to tell the future!
Jan 29 21:15:38 <dub>	new indicator called the 'linear ascending rabbit penis vagina'
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Jan 29 21:17:56 <dub>	or perhaps just 'double bipolar'
Jan 29 21:18:17 <usagi>	You lost me there.
Jan 29 21:18:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065249 = 2.8194 BTC [+]
Jan 29 21:18:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9529 @ 0.0006526 = 6.2186 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 21:23:04 <usagi>	so jcpham, what's up
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Jan 29 21:43:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3392 @ 0.0006525 = 2.2133 BTC [-]
Jan 29 21:43:20 <dub>	heh, new corporate buzzword, for me anyway, STEERCO
Jan 29 21:43:31 <dub>	short for steering committee
Jan 29 21:43:50 <usagi>	oh, for a moment I was thinking cows
Jan 29 21:52:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.0006525 = 0.6062 BTC [-]
Jan 29 21:52:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 864 @ 0.0006526 = 0.5638 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 22:02:32 <dub>	http://tos-dr.info/
Jan 29 22:03:07 <usagi>	the first ASIC just went online
Jan 29 22:03:33 <usagi>	http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1B4sYkxoNAH73kjWTcPq6rRcADsNoDU6Li
Jan 29 22:04:15 <usagi>	<+wizbot> wizkid057: Insta-hashrate for 1B4sYkxoNAH73kjWTcPq6rRcADsNoDU6Li - 64 second: 62.14 GH/s - 128 second: 60.63 GH/s - 256 second: 56.96 GH/s
Jan 29 22:06:01 <dub>	for once trend have it right, eligius.st is a disease vector
Jan 29 22:06:17 <dub>	The latest tests indicate that this URL contains malicious software or could defraud visitors.
Jan 29 22:06:29 <dub>	Sites that directly or indirectly facilitate the distribution of malicious software or source code
Jan 29 22:06:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065252 = 2.8195 BTC [-]
Jan 29 22:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.0006526 = 2.4662 BTC [+]
Jan 29 22:07:52 <dub>	seems unlikely that the first asic to come online would be alone
Jan 29 22:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3174 @ 0.0006526 = 2.0714 BTC [+]
Jan 29 22:08:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00065421 = 2.7477 BTC [+]
Jan 29 22:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1885 @ 0.00065602 = 1.2366 BTC [+]
Jan 29 22:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5541 @ 0.0006567 = 3.6388 BTC [+]
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Jan 29 22:51:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.121 BTC [-]
Jan 29 22:51:43 <dub>	yeah I'm calling bullshit
Jan 29 22:51:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 19 @ 0.12 = 2.28 BTC [-]
Jan 29 22:53:50 <dub>	wizkid just loves the attention he gets from the retard brigade in -otc, if he actually had one there would pics, ~65gh by itself means nothing
Jan 29 22:57:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0073126 = 2.1938 BTC [-]
Jan 29 22:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00728868 = 5.1021 BTC [-]
Jan 29 22:59:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006494 = 2.8061 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:00:06 <dub>	im confused about this mixer service gmaxwell set up
Jan 29 23:00:21 <dub>	I thought he was anti that 'kind of thing'
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Jan 29 23:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00728868 = 0.7289 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.0072655 = 6.539 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.0072347 = 6.873 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00721769 = 13.3527 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00714695 = 21.4409 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00714694 = 0.3573 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1902 @ 0.0071173 = 13.5371 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 23:15:27 <smickles>	dub: maybe it's actually a tracking service :o
Jan 29 23:16:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10912 @ 0.00064931 = 7.0853 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:17:00 <dub>	well yeah
Jan 29 23:17:21 <jcpham>	gmaxwell coming over tp the dark side
Jan 29 23:17:28 <jcpham>	i endorse it
Jan 29 23:17:52 <dub>	but the rhetoric seems to have changed from DONT MIX COINS EVILDOERS to FUNGIBILITY OR DIE pretty quickly
Jan 29 23:18:28 <jcpham>	maybe gmaxwell is pirate
Jan 29 23:18:38 <dub>	(not that I expect anythiing less from the asshat)
Jan 29 23:18:38 *	jcpham makes philosoraptor face
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Jan 29 23:23:59 <jcpham>	anderson cooper deleted a tweet
Jan 29 23:24:04 <jcpham>	that is news worthy
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Jan 29 23:25:25 <smickles>	fungibility is fairly important
Jan 29 23:27:33 *	Namworld hears of smickles advice and takes all his deeds, certificates, stocks, etc. He proceeds to soak them in water and watch as fungi grows on them.
Jan 29 23:27:36 <smickles>	soebot speant all it's monies
Jan 29 23:27:41 <smickles>	*spent
Jan 29 23:28:15 <smickles>	Namworld: what kind of fungi?
Jan 29 23:30:07 <Namworld>	looks like mold...
Jan 29 23:30:20 <smickles>	and can you start with the stuff that proves I have a mortgage?
Jan 29 23:30:27 <Namworld>	although there's some tiny purple shrooms growing on that deed.
Jan 29 23:31:00 <Namworld>	Oh, I loaned you money for mortgage? Well must be one of those documents.
Jan 29 23:31:34 <smickles>	that reminds me, the largest liberty cap i ever saw was growing wild within the walls of an air force base
Jan 29 23:31:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.1269 = 1.269 BTC [+]
Jan 29 23:32:10 <smickles>	and I'm pretty sure I saw a good size pot plant growing out of a bush on another base
Jan 29 23:32:31 <smickles>	I bet everyone who walked by knew it too, either by sight or smell
Jan 29 23:33:16 <smickles>	funny (to me at least)
Jan 29 23:35:17 <smickles>	;;calc -17/(.23-1)
Jan 29 23:35:18 <gribble>	22.0779220779
Jan 29 23:35:21 <Namworld>	They're actually put there by the enemy, trying to alterate the soldiers mind state for easier victory. It's a trap.
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Jan 29 23:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.695 = 2.085 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [+]
Jan 29 23:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11267 @ 0.00064931 = 7.3158 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6867 @ 0.0006521 = 4.478 BTC [+]
Jan 29 23:42:27 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 29 23:42:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.32294, Best ask: 19.43999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11705, Last trade: 19.32294, 24 hour volume: 84471.01099881, 24 hour low: 18.70000, 24 hour high: 19.80000, 24 hour vwap: 19.24571
Jan 29 23:42:32 <smickles>	OMG GUYS!
Jan 29 23:42:57 <smickles>	i've finally have unrealized profit on the first bitcoin I ever bought!
Jan 29 23:43:03 <smickles>	(if I had kept it)
Jan 29 23:44:25 <jcpham>	thankfully that one got sold for drugs at the sild road third hand
Jan 29 23:44:28 <jcpham>	amirite
Jan 29 23:44:57 <smickles>	lol, if it had, I'd have much fewer coins now
Jan 29 23:45:24 <smickles>	I turned that one into a few, and that few into more, and so on
Jan 29 23:45:42 <jcpham>	i need to turn a few into a few more
Jan 29 23:46:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.01 = 0.07 BTC [+]
Jan 29 23:46:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.0099 = 0.0495 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:46:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0098 = 0.0196 BTC [-]
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Jan 29 23:55:30 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17isoc/is_there_any_legitimateliquid_place_to_get/
Jan 29 23:55:39 <smickles>	can anyone see my comment there?
Jan 29 23:56:10 <dub>	yus
Jan 29 23:56:16 <smickles>	sweet, not banned from comments, just link submission
Jan 29 23:56:25 <dub>	spammer
Jan 29 23:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065206 = 2.8176 BTC [-]
Jan 29 23:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33 @ 0.0006521 = 0.0215 BTC [+]
Jan 29 23:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8459 @ 0.0006567 = 5.555 BTC [+]
Jan 29 23:57:56 <smickles>	lol, if i was banned for spamming, why did it come on the heels of my not posting for a month or so
Jan 29 23:58:20 <smickles>	oh wait, i suppose that' not quit true
Jan 29 23:58:41 <smickles>	there was the deathandtaxes quote I posted
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Jan 29 23:59:12 <smickles>	lol, did I really get banned for quoting d&t?
Jan 30 00:00:36 <dub>	did you appeal or find out why?
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Jan 30 00:07:35 <smickles>	I've asked, no answer yet
Jan 30 00:07:44 <Bowjob>	So the whale most of it back huh
Jan 30 00:08:02 <Ukto>	banned from what?
Jan 30 00:08:06 <smickles>	reddit
Jan 30 00:08:14 <Ukto>	you can get banned from reddit? 0,0
Jan 30 00:08:24 *	Ukto doesnt use it heh
Jan 30 00:08:27 <smickles>	yeah, and in many formes too
Jan 30 00:08:33 <smickles>	i'm 'shadow-banned'
Jan 30 00:08:51 <smickles>	it's where it looks like it works to me, but no one else see it
Jan 30 00:08:54 <smickles>	*sees
Jan 30 00:09:04 <Ukto>	epic idea
Jan 30 00:09:27 *	Ukto makes note of that feature for his disussions system for trolls
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Jan 30 00:10:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064953 = 2.8066 BTC [-]
Jan 30 00:10:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2829 @ 0.00064918 = 1.8365 BTC [-]
Jan 30 00:10:41 <smickles>	I've heard that there is a level of reddit banning in which you keep all your permissions, but the site makes you question reality to the point that you stop using computers
Jan 30 00:10:49 <jcpham>	smickles u got forum banhammer'd?
Jan 30 00:11:03 <jcpham>	or reddit?
Jan 30 00:11:06 <smickles>	reddit
Jan 30 00:11:17 <jcpham>	dawwww
Jan 30 00:15:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065653 = 2.8369 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.0006567 = 1.1492 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00065671 = 8.8656 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00711564 = 11.385 BTC [-]
Jan 30 00:20:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3399 = 3.399 BTC [-]
Jan 30 00:20:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:23:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00734477 = 2.9379 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:25:06 <dub>	smickles: when I was an IRC oper we had a server side 'shun' command to ignore users
Jan 30 00:25:25 <dub>	troll version of a gline
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Jan 30 00:34:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.8198 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:35:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.8199 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 00:36:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:36:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12683 @ 0.00065689 = 8.3313 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00065753 = 5.6876 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:46:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20406 @ 0.00065763 = 13.4196 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:46:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27372 @ 0.00066052 = 18.0798 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:46:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7972 @ 0.00066059 = 5.2662 BTC [+]
Jan 30 00:54:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 01:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1128 @ 0.00066059 = 0.7451 BTC [+]
Jan 30 01:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8297 @ 0.0006613 = 5.4868 BTC [+]
Jan 30 01:10:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 890 @ 0.00066232 = 0.5895 BTC [+]
Jan 30 01:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1935 @ 0.00066233 = 1.2816 BTC [+]
Jan 30 01:13:38 <toffoo>	did GLBSE ever fully refund 100% of our BTC balances or just the like 97% that he initially sent?  I can't tell what's what going in to the one address I left him.
Jan 30 01:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6933 @ 0.00066233 = 4.5919 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 01:22:28 <error4733>	wtf is going on with S.DICE  -4000 btc since 1.49am
Jan 30 01:24:57 <error4733>	but 9pm to 1.49am = +4000
Jan 30 01:26:09 <error4733>	break even since last dooglus update, any1 confirm please
Jan 30 01:27:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9446 @ 0.00065689 = 6.205 BTC [-]
Jan 30 01:28:32 <Bowjob>	error, according to dooglus's chart, s.dice was down 9k BTC from his last update
Jan 30 01:28:43 <Bowjob>	where did you get the -4000 number from?
Jan 30 01:33:05 <error4733>	my googDoc sheet
Jan 30 01:34:23 <error4733>	with bugpower formula :) thanks to him
Jan 30 01:42:55 <Bowjob>	So the -4000 means that the dice recovered 4k BTC then
Jan 30 01:46:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064953 = 2.8066 BTC [-]
Jan 30 01:46:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3079 @ 0.00064918 = 1.9988 BTC [-]
Jan 30 01:46:29 <error4733>	9pm -- 2am = +4000  2am -- now = -4000  Roller coaster
Jan 30 01:46:55 <error4733>	not "double black diamond" like yesterday
Jan 30 01:50:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064923 = 2.8053 BTC [+]
Jan 30 01:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8779 @ 0.00064918 = 5.6992 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 02:04:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065199 = 2.8172 BTC [+]
Jan 30 02:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2229 @ 0.0006521 = 1.4535 BTC [+]
Jan 30 02:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065181 = 2.8165 BTC [-]
Jan 30 02:12:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9925 @ 0.0006521 = 6.4721 BTC [+]
Jan 30 02:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00065829 = 2.5015 BTC [+]
Jan 30 02:12:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00066233 = 1.6889 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 02:22:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.8246 BTC [-]
Jan 30 02:28:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00727958 = 2.9118 BTC [-]
Jan 30 02:28:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 586 @ 0.007337 = 4.2995 BTC [+]
Jan 30 02:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 914 @ 0.00734477 = 6.7131 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 02:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1199 @ 0.00066233 = 0.7941 BTC [+]
Jan 30 02:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066272 = 6.6272 BTC [+]
Jan 30 02:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2401 @ 0.00066278 = 1.5913 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 02:59:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12092 @ 0.00066278 = 8.0143 BTC [+]
Jan 30 02:59:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1158 @ 0.00066438 = 0.7694 BTC [+]
Jan 30 03:05:14 <Bowjob>	So I assume dice is still down?
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Jan 30 03:17:34 <JohnGalt>	!s.dice
Jan 30 03:17:43 <JohnGalt>	!ticker s.dice
Jan 30 03:17:44 <assbot>	It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
Jan 30 03:18:35 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 30 03:18:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00711564 / 0.00735027 / 0.007395 (85447 shares, 628.06 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00547144 / 0.0075 (1181450 shares, 6,464.24 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00440993 / 0.0075 (9302204 shares, 41,022.10 BTC)
Jan 30 03:18:50 <Bowjob>	I find it a bit strange that mpex dice shares haven't lost value while Havelock's are a bit down
Jan 30 03:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob yest they were trading .8
Jan 30 03:19:26 <Bowjob>	Yeah
Jan 30 03:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	well... and the guy came by and bought more s.dice
Jan 30 03:19:56 <Bowjob>	I'd imagine with dice shares would plummet now that the whale got 9k in 1 day.
Jan 30 03:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Jan 30 03:20:19 <Bowjob>	The profits are down?
Jan 30 03:20:39 <Bowjob>	Well, im still figuring out if dice is up or down, looks like the whale is still playing
Jan 30 03:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	listen, most people with that sort of nonsense outlook aren't on mpex
Jan 30 03:20:59 <mircea_popescu>	they can't afford the fee.
Jan 30 03:21:17 <Bowjob>	right
Jan 30 03:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Jan 30 03:22:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.69500000 / 0.7513125 / 0.78000000 (80 shares, 60.10499969 BTC), 7D: 0.44000000 / 0.64762229 / 0.81000000 (1311 shares, 849.03282861 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.51008583 / 0.81000000 (5482 shares, 2796.29051793 BTC)
Jan 30 03:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	was up cause of lack of asks, prolly relaxed a little once owner bought a little more s.dice and put it on offer
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Jan 30 03:24:02 <maximian>	bowjob: s.dice is practically brand new and is just getting going - its big earning days are still ahead of us. Variances like a 9k loss to a whale are meaningless if you're in for the long term.
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Jan 30 03:26:42 <mircea_popescu>	actually i imagine the largest single factor affecting price is people's judgement of how likely a sale to a large player is.
Jan 30 03:27:01 <maximian>	I do anticipate that - it makes sense
Jan 30 03:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	stuff like the recent online casinos opening btc to the us is prolly more pressure than whether someone makles or loses 10k
Jan 30 03:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	course, this is all speculation about what people may be speculating about lol.
Jan 30 03:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00065466 = 7.1031 BTC [-]
Jan 30 03:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064931 = 2.8057 BTC [-]
Jan 30 03:35:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66 @ 0.00064918 = 0.0428 BTC [-]
Jan 30 03:35:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.0006485 = 8.9493 BTC [-]
Jan 30 03:53:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006456 = 2.7896 BTC [-]
Jan 30 03:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00064528 = 7.2271 BTC [-]
Jan 30 03:53:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1735 @ 0.00064423 = 1.1177 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 04:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064457 = 2.7852 BTC [+]
Jan 30 04:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3725 @ 0.00064423 = 2.3998 BTC [-]
Jan 30 04:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00064423 = 9.3413 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 04:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3540 @ 0.00064423 = 2.2806 BTC [-]
Jan 30 04:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6597 @ 0.00064187 = 4.2344 BTC [-]
Jan 30 04:40:48 <mircea_popescu>	Graet would you be so kind to link this somewhere http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/how-to-hedge-as-a-miner/ ?
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Jan 30 04:52:19 <EskimoBob>	smickles: started a Ledger thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139995.0 :)
Jan 30 04:53:04 <Graet>	i'll read it laterm kids dinner time mircea_popescu
Jan 30 04:53:06 <EskimoBob>	smickles: thanx for mentioning this software. I'll try it out and see what happens
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Jan 30 04:55:37 <EskimoBob>	I see that Major Muppet (aka MP or mircea_popescu) is still ego tripping... LOL
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Jan 30 04:59:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00064187 = 2.8242 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 05:09:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 712 @ 0.00734477 = 5.2295 BTC [+]
Jan 30 05:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24 @ 0.00064187 = 0.0154 BTC [-]
Jan 30 05:16:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3036 @ 0.00064169 = 1.9482 BTC [-]
Jan 30 05:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064744 = 2.7976 BTC [+]
Jan 30 05:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9163 @ 0.00064755 = 5.9335 BTC [+]
Jan 30 05:21:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11516 @ 0.00064855 = 7.4687 BTC [+]
Jan 30 05:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006483 = 2.8013 BTC [-]
Jan 30 05:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 934 @ 0.00064855 = 0.6057 BTC [+]
Jan 30 05:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10645 @ 0.00065454 = 6.9676 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 05:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00730215 = 3.286 BTC [-]
Jan 30 05:39:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064199 = 2.774 BTC [-]
Jan 30 05:39:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11879 @ 0.00064169 = 7.6226 BTC [-]
Jan 30 06:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00064636 = 0.614 BTC [+]
Jan 30 06:07:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00064199 = 2.4717 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 06:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065438 = 2.8276 BTC [+]
Jan 30 06:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11479 @ 0.00065454 = 7.5135 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 06:35:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006543 = 2.8272 BTC [-]
Jan 30 06:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15179 @ 0.00065454 = 9.9353 BTC [+]
Jan 30 06:45:21 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139649.0
Jan 30 06:45:30 <kakobrekla>	http://glados.cc/gold/
Jan 30 06:45:31 <kakobrekla>	legit
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Jan 30 06:47:34 <jurov>	hi mircea_popescu, got a question about x.idiffs
Jan 30 06:47:46 <jurov>	how do i know how much is the cover?
Jan 30 06:48:12 <jurov>	when i buy some and difficulty rises, when they'll go *poof*?
Jan 30 06:49:10 <kakobrekla>	i showed that xdiff thingie to a guy with ~300ghash
Jan 30 06:49:17 <kakobrekla>	said he dont like insurances.
Jan 30 06:49:46 <jurov>	nobody likes it, cause of above uncertainty
Jan 30 06:50:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0075 = 15 BTC [+]
Jan 30 06:50:33 <jurov>	practically every time you do MKFUT, collateral changes, not even saying anything about next quarters
Jan 30 06:51:26 <jurov>	and buyers don't know what to expect, let's have practical example
Jan 30 06:51:53 <jurov>	i have sold 20x x.idiff.mar to bugpowder fellow for 1.7711 BTC
Jan 30 06:53:09 <jurov>	but the cover is actually less, am searching how much it was
Jan 30 06:53:43 <jurov>	(if i inderstand idiffs correctly)
Jan 30 06:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2753 @ 0.00065454 = 1.8019 BTC [+]
Jan 30 06:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9104 @ 0.00065471 = 5.9605 BTC [+]
Jan 30 06:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11170 @ 0.00066438 = 7.4211 BTC [+]
Jan 30 06:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00066563 = 4.6261 BTC [+]
Jan 30 06:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 211 @ 0.00066576 = 0.1405 BTC [+]
Jan 30 06:57:03 <jurov>	hmm, stat says IMMCover is 1.95470556 so it's a bit more... but still we don't know how much cover others provided
Jan 30 06:58:43 <jurov>	would you buy future for 1.7BTC that's covered only up to 1.95 ? i doubt
Jan 30 07:01:37 <jurov>	poor bugpowder, first that s.dice blunder, then this :DDD
Jan 30 07:04:53 <jurov>	<kakobrekla> http://glados.cc/gold/ ,pffft. i'll wait for mithril bars
Jan 30 07:05:05 <kakobrekla>	ah is back online now
Jan 30 07:05:13 <kakobrekla>	was just givin an error before
Jan 30 07:05:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 471 @ 0.00064199 = 0.3024 BTC [-]
Jan 30 07:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4585 @ 0.00064169 = 2.9421 BTC [-]
Jan 30 07:05:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00064149 = 3.5923 BTC [-]
Jan 30 07:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5844 @ 0.00064143 = 3.7485 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 07:35:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.6120002 = 6.12 BTC [-]
Jan 30 07:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.612 = 6.12 BTC [-]
Jan 30 07:40:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.611 = 2.444 BTC [-]
Jan 30 07:41:36 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139931.0
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Jan 30 07:50:45 <gesell>	based on the S.DICE betcount total on Jan 1 and current count I'm seeing a %14 increase in dividends. It's a simplistic calculation. Match what everyone else thinks or does someone have something more sound?
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Jan 30 07:55:52 <malaimo>	if you have a look at the statistical analysis thread over at bitcointalk.org you can see that yesterday was a very bad day for s.dice
Jan 30 07:56:10 <gesell>	ahh thanks
Jan 30 07:56:45 <malaimo>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.780
Jan 30 07:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5611 = 1.1222 BTC [-]
Jan 30 07:59:57 <malaimo>	but I guess if you consider regression to the mean satoshidice will be fine...
Jan 30 08:03:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1945 @ 0.00734477 = 14.2856 BTC [+]
Jan 30 08:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00064685 = 6.9213 BTC [+]
Jan 30 08:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064175 = 2.773 BTC [-]
Jan 30 08:10:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.00064143 = 2.2957 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 08:25:43 <markedathome>	clearly, dooglus is trying to out mircea_popescu as the mystery player, why else can I get "MPEX pay SDICE with SMPOE" out of the addresses listed in #782
Jan 30 08:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066275 = 2.8637 BTC [+]
Jan 30 08:28:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00066278 = 6.0644 BTC [+]
Jan 30 08:39:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006635 = 2.867 BTC [+]
Jan 30 08:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15479 @ 0.00066381 = 10.2751 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 08:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2808 @ 0.00066287 = 1.8613 BTC [-]
Jan 30 08:43:59 <jurov>	no, he's buying twelve pound solid bricks of crystal meth
Jan 30 08:44:29 <jurov>	(see second recent trilema article)
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Jan 30 08:48:14 <DeadWeasel>	i'm pretty sure he's transporting them as 12" crystal meth dildos to get past customs.
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Jan 30 08:52:04 <jurov>	If nobody is to be routinely told exactly what a worthless, pointless accidental and undesired item they are then certainly nobody’s to be told they’re welcome to dream into one palm, piss in the other and see which feels warmer to the touch.
Jan 30 08:52:15 <jurov>	and he calls someone snide. yeah.
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Jan 30 09:01:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.009 = 0.9 BTC [+]
Jan 30 09:02:35 <EskimoBob>	malaimo: did the big bad Whale win? What if that "whale" is SDICE guy himself, trying to make sdice look better than ever but "fucked up" and won, generating a "loss" for sdice
Jan 30 09:02:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 11 @ 0.0091 = 0.1001 BTC [+]
Jan 30 09:04:15 <EskimoBob>	I still like that idea because I am sure there is second offer (and maybe private) in planning
Jan 30 09:04:36 <EskimoBob>	so sdice has to looks strong
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Jan 30 09:05:01 <usagi>	minna genki
Jan 30 09:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2279 @ 0.00066381 = 1.5128 BTC [+]
Jan 30 09:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14849 @ 0.00066576 = 9.8859 BTC [+]
Jan 30 09:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1722 @ 0.00066577 = 1.1465 BTC [+]
Jan 30 09:08:58 <EskimoBob>	usagi: your pm was really cute ;)
Jan 30 09:11:43 <usagi>	Thanks.
Jan 30 09:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00066577 = 3.9946 BTC [+]
Jan 30 09:13:05 <usagi>	You mean on IRC?
Jan 30 09:13:10 <EskimoBob>	yeah
Jan 30 09:13:16 <usagi>	I don't think I sent you a pm recently.. ok
Jan 30 09:13:44 <EskimoBob>	but I never tell a guy that something he did is cute unless it's with sarcasm
Jan 30 09:14:39 <EskimoBob>	it's a day old or so
Jan 30 09:14:52 <usagi>	Sure I kind of figured it wasn't actually "cute". You probably hmm, yeah, sarcasm would be the correct word.
Jan 30 09:15:00 <EskimoBob>	and you are talking about OTC rating
Jan 30 09:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00066577 = 5.2596 BTC [+]
Jan 30 09:15:24 <usagi>	Right, you're still -1 but it's 3x better than before
Jan 30 09:15:29 <usagi>	At least there's hope :)
Jan 30 09:16:01 <usagi>	So how's ART going
Jan 30 09:16:05 <usagi>	I was thinking of buying a couple of shares
Jan 30 09:16:41 <EskimoBob>	second issue sold out in less than one hour or something like that
Jan 30 09:16:43 <usagi>	I was thinking of buying a mug with a rabbit on it or something
Jan 30 09:16:49 <usagi>	There was a second issue?
Jan 30 09:17:04 <usagi>	hehe
Jan 30 09:17:23 <EskimoBob>	I posted a preliminary proposal for the second offer
Jan 30 09:17:45 <EskimoBob>	and I got some good offers ... so it's all gone now
Jan 30 09:18:13 <EskimoBob>	and I am in middle of ordering more equipment
Jan 30 09:18:42 <EskimoBob>	already sent out requests to resellers
Jan 30 09:19:05 <EskimoBob>	fuck'n resellers. What a punch of useless middleman
Jan 30 09:19:49 <EskimoBob>	all they do is make a order to factory. They have zero stuff available in "local" warehouses.
Jan 30 09:20:43 *	Guest84516 is now known as topace
Jan 30 09:20:44 <EskimoBob>	I also need to buy assload of oxides and minerals... same shit. 4+ weeks delivery times. WTF!
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Jan 30 09:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1513 @ 0.00066287 = 1.0029 BTC [-]
Jan 30 09:28:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16737 @ 0.00066282 = 11.0936 BTC [-]
Jan 30 09:39:55 <usagi>	Can you work with Silver?
Jan 30 09:40:46 <usagi>	You have a kiln, does it do metal or just clay
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Jan 30 09:51:24 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 30 09:51:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.45001, Best ask: 19.52026, Bid-ask spread: 0.07025, Last trade: 19.42100, 24 hour volume: 53313.83367467, 24 hour low: 18.70000, 24 hour high: 19.80000, 24 hour vwap: 19.35731
Jan 30 09:51:38 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 29
Jan 30 09:51:40 <gribble>	There are currently 35300.69 bitcoins offered at or under 29.0 USD, worth 746476.392038 USD in total.
Jan 30 09:51:40 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 29
Jan 30 09:51:43 <gribble>	There are currently 35300.69 bitcoins offered at or under 29.0 USD, worth 746476.392038 USD in total.
Jan 30 09:51:44 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 09:51:46 <gribble>	There are currently 17178.888 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 340747.595972 USD in total.
Jan 30 09:51:59 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 19
Jan 30 09:52:02 <gribble>	There are currently 4392.8697 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 84249.722342 USD in total.
Jan 30 10:03:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00066282 = 6.827 BTC [-]
Jan 30 10:06:08 <jurov>	;;bc,24
Jan 30 10:06:09 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24" is not a valid command.
Jan 30 10:06:13 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 30 10:06:15 <gribble>	19.28
Jan 30 10:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00066328 = 3.9134 BTC [+]
Jan 30 10:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066542 = 2.8753 BTC [+]
Jan 30 10:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12679 @ 0.00066577 = 8.4413 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 10:27:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2223 @ 0.00730522 = 16.2395 BTC [-]
Jan 30 10:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00734477 = 4.0396 BTC [+]
Jan 30 10:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00066577 = 5.6923 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 10:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.645 BTC [+]
Jan 30 10:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149 @ 0.00066577 = 0.0992 BTC [+]
Jan 30 10:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11651 @ 0.00066664 = 7.767 BTC [+]
Jan 30 11:02:39 <Bugpowder>	19.60 taken out
Jan 30 11:03:04 <Bugpowder>	knock 3 times and the door to $20 opens?
Jan 30 11:08:08 <jurov>	yeah, rally right after i sold some...but i can't wait longer
Jan 30 11:08:55 <jurov>	oh Bugpowder you weren;t around when i discussed the mpex idiffs ?
Jan 30 11:08:55 <Bugpowder>	no shame in selling at $19
Jan 30 11:09:10 <Bugpowder>	don't think so
Jan 30 11:09:16 <Bugpowder>	I have sold some
Jan 30 11:09:24 <Bugpowder>	idiffs
Jan 30 11:09:31 <Bugpowder>	deposit req is harsh
Jan 30 11:09:47 <jurov>	so, unless mircea corrects me, it comes out they are covered only up to 2.9x current difficulty
Jan 30 11:10:16 <jurov>	so these i made only up to 9 M
Jan 30 11:10:33 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 30 11:10:46 <Bugpowder>	i sold the same ones
Jan 30 11:10:53 <Bugpowder>	but before the last expiry
Jan 30 11:10:58 <Bugpowder>	so mine got up to 27
Jan 30 11:11:10 <jurov>	so basically you bought futures for 1.7BTC that are covered only up to 1.95
Jan 30 11:11:11 <Bugpowder>	I've had a long discussion wiht mp about this
Jan 30 11:11:18 <Bugpowder>	i didn't
Jan 30 11:11:29 <Bugpowder>	I sold some
Jan 30 11:11:34 <Bugpowder>	a month ago
Jan 30 11:11:37 <Bugpowder>	the SAME ones
Jan 30 11:11:43 <jurov>	okay. but overall i'm correct?
Jan 30 11:11:44 <Bugpowder>	but mine go up to 27
Jan 30 11:12:07 <Bugpowder>	and when the 9 threshold is hit, the expiry is spread across both sets of sold futures
Jan 30 11:12:14 <jurov>	but the cover averages over all idiff shares, no?
Jan 30 11:12:20 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 30 11:12:21 <jurov>	so i diluted it in fact
Jan 30 11:12:29 <Bugpowder>	yes thank you
Jan 30 11:12:36 <Bugpowder>	my exposure is reduced now
Jan 30 11:12:47 <Bugpowder>	there is no way to know
Jan 30 11:13:07 <Bugpowder>	what the actual distribution of 27 and 9s is
Jan 30 11:13:10 <jurov>	yes, there is no way to know what the cover is. well, i got an idea how to fix it
Jan 30 11:13:20 <Bugpowder>	great
Jan 30 11:13:25 <jurov>	CoinBr.IDiff will come to bitfunder soon ;D
Jan 30 11:13:34 <Bugpowder>	cool
Jan 30 11:13:50 <Bugpowder>	idiff is useful
Jan 30 11:13:56 <Bugpowder>	but needs some refinement
Jan 30 11:14:03 <Bugpowder>	and liquidity
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Jan 30 11:15:47 <Bugpowder>	hmmm maybe I will make some
Jan 30 11:16:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066302 = 2.8649 BTC [-]
Jan 30 11:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7146 @ 0.00066282 = 4.7365 BTC [-]
Jan 30 11:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 242 @ 0.00734477 = 1.7774 BTC [+]
Jan 30 11:19:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.3001 = 2.4008 BTC [-]
Jan 30 11:19:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.3001 = 1.5005 BTC [-]
Jan 30 11:19:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.3 = 2.1 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 11:25:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0238 = 0.0952 BTC [-]
Jan 30 11:25:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 12 @ 0.0237 = 0.2844 BTC [-]
Jan 30 11:27:02 <Bugpowder>	I made some idiffs!
Jan 30 11:27:05 <Bugpowder>	buy buy buy!
Jan 30 11:27:13 <Bugpowder>	priced to MOVE
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Jan 30 11:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066642 = 2.8796 BTC [+]
Jan 30 11:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2979 @ 0.00066657 = 1.9857 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 11:34:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6576 @ 0.00066657 = 4.3834 BTC [+]
Jan 30 11:38:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00734477 = 2.2034 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 11:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00734477 = 2.9379 BTC [+]
Jan 30 11:49:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 10 @ 0.21604376 = 2.1604 BTC [+]
Jan 30 11:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	ahhh how goes it boys an' girls ?
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Jan 30 11:55:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00734477 = 2.9379 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 12:02:53 <jurov>	hi mircea
Jan 30 12:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	heya
Jan 30 12:03:10 <jurov>	i'm going to improve idiff futures ;)
Jan 30 12:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
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Jan 30 12:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> said he dont like insurances. <<< heh.
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Jan 30 12:16:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00734477 = 2.2034 BTC [+]
Jan 30 12:16:15 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome I seriously have played a grand total of maybe 3 btc on s.dice.
Jan 30 12:16:30 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 30 12:16:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.42769, Best ask: 19.54999, Bid-ask spread: 0.12230, Last trade: 19.42769, 24 hour volume: 50009.52094866, 24 hour low: 18.70000, 24 hour high: 19.63999, 24 hour vwap: 19.35837
Jan 30 12:16:46 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 12:16:49 <gribble>	There are currently 14954.611 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 297782.475441 USD in total.
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Jan 30 12:17:19 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: i just thought it was funny that I could get those words out of the way the addresses were arranged.
Jan 30 12:17:34 <thestringpuller>	;;bids
Jan 30 12:17:35 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Jan 30 12:17:44 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 19
Jan 30 12:17:46 <gribble>	There are currently 5527.276 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 105766.29329 USD in total.
Jan 30 12:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome i guess by now pretty much everything's somewhat connected to mpex
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Jan 30 12:18:50 <markedathome>	doesn't really matter, you could make any sequence of chars out of something if you look hard enough. took me a while to get smpoe
Jan 30 12:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	o o i see lol
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Jan 30 12:20:03 <mircea_popescu>	there's this kaballah thing where they look for the nth letters sort of thing
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Jan 30 12:20:11 <usagi>	hi
Jan 30 12:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	jurov the collateral is 2.9x the current diff per set, so march are currently about .1 ad june about .3
Jan 30 12:21:30 <jurov>	yes, but the buyer doesn't know where it is exactly. especially if previous quarters are mixed in
Jan 30 12:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	buyer knows it's not going to be less than 2.9x whatever quarter he buys in
Jan 30 12:22:27 <jurov>	it can be anywhere from (lowest difficulty in this quarter)*2.9 and more
Jan 30 12:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	yes, but not less.
Jan 30 12:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00734477 = 2.9379 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 12:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... what else is new ?
Jan 30 12:27:25 <usagi>	they're going to back the yuan with gold
Jan 30 12:27:34 <usagi>	in 2 years
Jan 30 12:28:06 <jurov>	we'll see how it goes after we open it. just that i think that buying future at 0.075 , while expected cover may be 0.0095 or maybe more isn't so attractive
Jan 30 12:28:15 <jurov>	*0.095
Jan 30 12:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	why do you have to buy it at .075 ?
Jan 30 12:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00731818 = 3.6591 BTC [-]
Jan 30 12:30:00 <jurov>	it's lowest price offered to date. and seems nobody will sell it for less.
Jan 30 12:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	well sure but best bid is like 4mn
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Jan 30 12:31:28 <jurov>	where?
Jan 30 12:31:38 <mircea_popescu>	for mar.
Jan 30 12:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	and for that matter i dunno if i'd buy at 7.5mn. what, diff doubles in the next six weeks ?
Jan 30 12:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	i dun see it.
Jan 30 12:32:18 <jurov>	well, remains to be seen if it actually trades at such price
Jan 30 12:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	i think like 20 sold or something, but that's really nothing.
Jan 30 12:34:37 <jurov>	yes, i experimentally sold 20 at 0.89
Jan 30 12:34:46 <jurov>	*0.089
Jan 30 12:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	i'd imagine at a bare minimum there should be 50% coverage which would put the volume in the 100k range per month or somrthing
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Jan 30 12:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31595 @ 0.00066657 = 21.0603 BTC [+]
Jan 30 12:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5899 @ 0.00066664 = 3.9325 BTC [+]
Jan 30 12:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 370 @ 0.00066731 = 0.2469 BTC [+]
Jan 30 12:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00066849 = 2.1392 BTC [+]
Jan 30 12:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2874 @ 0.00066915 = 1.9231 BTC [+]
Jan 30 12:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 30 12:43:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.46042, Best ask: 19.60448, Bid-ask spread: 0.14406, Last trade: 19.46042, 24 hour volume: 49860.53894881, 24 hour low: 18.70000, 24 hour high: 19.63999, 24 hour vwap: 19.35926
Jan 30 12:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	so what's new, anyway ?
Jan 30 12:43:54 <jurov>	zimbabwe has $247 in bank... wanna buy?
Jan 30 12:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	buy what, the country ?
Jan 30 12:45:15 <jurov>	yes
Jan 30 12:45:19 <mircea_popescu>	nah, too much hassle.
Jan 30 12:47:06 <jurov>	they should kick mugabe and move to bitcoin
Jan 30 12:47:33 <jurov>	and list on mpex, if you allow them lol
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Jan 30 12:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066493 = 2.8732 BTC [-]
Jan 30 12:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22185 @ 0.00066467 = 14.7457 BTC [-]
Jan 30 12:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1707 @ 0.00066282 = 1.1314 BTC [-]
Jan 30 12:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15537 @ 0.00066045 = 10.2614 BTC [-]
Jan 30 12:48:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00065833 = 1.5471 BTC [-]
Jan 30 12:48:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol, REAL PRECIOUS JEEM
Jan 30 12:48:39 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is, they're not smart enough to do any of tham.
Jan 30 12:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	that*
Jan 30 12:49:19 <DeadWeasel>	can't run a country on volatility like this.  maybe later.
Jan 30 12:49:54 <DeadWeasel>	when I can afford my own atoll in the south pacific, i'll run my country on BTC.
Jan 30 12:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel btc is not particularly volatile for that purpose.
Jan 30 12:50:37 <jurov>	would be infinitely better than their current $
Jan 30 12:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Jan 30 12:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	most national currencies are worse than btc in that perspective.
Jan 30 12:51:06 <DeadWeasel>	true, they can't even control it as is.
Jan 30 12:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, when it crapped out it only dropped 90%
Jan 30 12:52:22 <mircea_popescu>	do you think the greek drachma would have ONLY dropped 90% recently ?
Jan 30 12:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	for that matter, once things blow over do you suppose the usd will only drop 90% ?
Jan 30 12:53:04 <usagi>	drop isn't the word i am looking for
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Jan 30 12:55:27 <Bugpowder>	19.6999
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Jan 30 13:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00734477 = 1.469 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 13:20:30 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 30 13:20:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.63201, Best ask: 19.70472, Bid-ask spread: 0.07271, Last trade: 19.63201, 24 hour volume: 49943.54713803, 24 hour low: 18.70000, 24 hour high: 19.70323, 24 hour vwap: 19.36427
Jan 30 13:22:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066882 = 2.89 BTC [+]
Jan 30 13:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4026 @ 0.00066915 = 2.694 BTC [+]
Jan 30 13:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00066938 = 8.6015 BTC [+]
Jan 30 13:22:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1253 @ 0.00066967 = 0.8391 BTC [+]
Jan 30 13:24:30 <mircea_popescu>	why do women fuck better when they have real high heels on ?
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Jan 30 13:25:14 <usagi>	lol I actually know the answer to that question
Jan 30 13:25:24 <usagi>	some things are better left unsaid though
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Jan 30 13:33:25 <EskimoBob>	฿
Jan 30 13:35:48 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: ask your hand
Jan 30 13:36:23 <EskimoBob>	you fkn wanker
Jan 30 13:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg1490001#msg1490001 this totally can't be happening.
Jan 30 13:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	burnside_afk are you like, paying him to troll me ?
Jan 30 13:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00731819 = 2.1955 BTC [-]
Jan 30 13:37:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00731818 = 2.1955 BTC [-]
Jan 30 13:37:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00730522 = 8.0357 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 13:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066777 = 2.8854 BTC [-]
Jan 30 13:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 517 @ 0.00066756 = 0.3451 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 13:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8583 @ 0.00066756 = 5.7297 BTC [-]
Jan 30 13:54:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2373 @ 0.00066704 = 1.5829 BTC [-]
Jan 30 13:54:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4844 @ 0.00066565 = 3.2244 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 13:59:11 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: if women fuck better in highheels, I'm willing to bet that it's just a (possibly localized) social phenomenon
Jan 30 14:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	how much ?
Jan 30 14:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	Keefe hey, you around ?
Jan 30 14:01:38 <jcpham>	my data doesn't support that hypothesis
Jan 30 14:01:48 <jcpham>	about the high heels
Jan 30 14:02:02 <smickles>	10 btc, It's probably just a coincidence that it's high heels, could've been converse allstars
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Jan 30 14:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	smickles how do we check it ?!
Jan 30 14:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham hum. pics ?
Jan 30 14:02:38 <smickles>	we could probably setup a double blind crossover trial
Jan 30 14:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	smickles well if we just kidnap test subjects off the street its unethical and if i let you bring your own you'll cheat.
Jan 30 14:03:25 <smickles>	that's why it needs to be double blind
Jan 30 14:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	how can you fuck double blind ?!
Jan 30 14:03:35 <smickles>	you hire impartial subject, and impartial observers
Jan 30 14:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	if you hire them they're no longer representative.
Jan 30 14:04:31 <smickles>	how do human trials of drugs find subjects?
Jan 30 14:04:38 <smickles>	don't they hire people?
Jan 30 14:04:58 <smickles>	or, you're saying that only sexworkers would apply?
Jan 30 14:05:01 <mircea_popescu>	ya but drug stuff objectively interacts with the subjects
Jan 30 14:05:16 <kakobrekla>	seems to me usagi has an answer to everything always just before he quits.
Jan 30 14:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	im saying that whoever will apply fails to represent the entire set adequately
Jan 30 14:05:28 <smickles>	that's were statistics come in
Jan 30 14:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla haven't seen him/her in a while...
Jan 30 14:05:41 <smickles>	you'd have to have a large enough set of subjects
Jan 30 14:05:49 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu he was just here
Jan 30 14:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i doubt statistics can help, because the sample is selected
Jan 30 14:05:51 <smickles>	and make sure they don't know whats being tested
Jan 30 14:06:04 <mircea_popescu>	smickles you're gonna hire people to fuck without telling them ?
Jan 30 14:06:22 <smickles>	naw, they know generally what they are going to do
Jan 30 14:06:25 <midnightmagic>	dub: What's confusing about combining monies to obscure their sources and screw up crappy "taint" analyses?
Jan 30 14:06:50 <midnightmagic>	IMO, it is ethical to point out, publically, serious flaws in the way information is presented to the public.
Jan 30 14:06:56 <smickles>	but neither the observers or the subjects know what we're trying to test
Jan 30 14:06:57 <mircea_popescu>	smickles then they're only representing that subsection of the population who'll generally do that.
Jan 30 14:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic what's this all about ?
Jan 30 14:07:41 <kakobrekla>	http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/01/zimbabwe-down-its-last-217/61562/
Jan 30 14:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	poor them
Jan 30 14:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	Zimbabwe, the country that's home to some of the world's largest platinum and diamond reserves, literally has the same financial standing as a 14-year-old girl after a really good birthday party.
Jan 30 14:08:40 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: then we could structure it in a way that we have people in situations where the might likely have sex without being prompted, it would make it larger, take longer and be more expensive
Jan 30 14:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno about the 14 yo girl.
Jan 30 14:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	smickles sounds like a plan. now we know what's with all the cctv
Jan 30 14:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	they're trying to measure this.
Jan 30 14:09:39 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: A little while ago, dub was saying he doesn't understand gmaxwell's mixer thing. It's not really a mixer, it's guaranteed to be essentially impossible to disentangle those sorts of transactions due to the fungibility of bitcoin.
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Jan 30 14:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	o, that thing where he's trying to create a trail showing himself to be rich ?
Jan 30 14:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	sounded singularly scammy to me, that.
Jan 30 14:10:23 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: right. but it has other uses, too.
Jan 30 14:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. like, for instance, privately convincing some naive people with a lot of money that you matter.
Jan 30 14:10:42 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: It is cryptographically secure; and, actually, gmaxwell is taking a bit of a risk doing it.
Jan 30 14:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	at any rate i wasn't impressed.
Jan 30 14:11:09 <midnightmagic>	no, it's mocking two things: 1) rich-lists, 2) taint analyses.
Jan 30 14:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	send your btc to mpex, withdraw it, end of story. it's as anon as it will ever get.
Jan 30 14:11:33 <EskimoBob>	isn't this exactly what mp is doing "mircea_popescu | yeah. like, for instance, privately convincing some naive people with a lot of money that you matter." - LOL
Jan 30 14:11:48 <midnightmagic>	That's not actually so. *you* know.
Jan 30 14:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	oh ?
Jan 30 14:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	how are you going to disentangle btc that went through the same address ?
Jan 30 14:12:23 <midnightmagic>	We go to your house with a large lead pipe and start hitting you with it until you tell us.
Jan 30 14:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	tell you what ?
Jan 30 14:12:58 <midnightmagic>	Figuratively of course; or apply legal pressure so it's not worth it to keep it secret.
Jan 30 14:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	listen
Jan 30 14:13:03 <midnightmagic>	Which is kind of the same thing..
Jan 30 14:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	i know nothing at all. you can create a gpg sig right now as 34jk5hty895ytg9g4t
Jan 30 14:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	register it
Jan 30 14:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	depost
Jan 30 14:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	withdraw.
Jan 30 14:13:25 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the trail is by txid, addresses are just incidental
Jan 30 14:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	what do i know ? that it's really 34jk5hty895ytg9g4t's btc ?
Jan 30 14:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what do you mean ? i dun follow.
Jan 30 14:14:44 <midnightmagic>	hrm. maybe I've misapprehended how you operate MPEX. I've never logged in.
Jan 30 14:14:51 <midnightmagic>	Do you really allow anonymous usage of mpex?
Jan 30 14:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	yeah well. yes.
Jan 30 14:15:01 <kakobrekla>	there is no log in :)
Jan 30 14:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's in the faq -.0
Jan 30 14:15:52 <midnightmagic>	well, in that case, at the very least, there's a trust thing which can't be cryptographically avoided, unless you are doing multisig similar to what gmaxwell is.
Jan 30 14:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	sending to 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx and then withdrawing has the certain advantage that you're actually in a pool of 10's of k's of btc,
Jan 30 14:16:09 <midnightmagic>	if I deposit 500,000 bitcoin to you, what happens if you decide to keep it?
Jan 30 14:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	which gmaxwell's thing will never ever get.
Jan 30 14:16:26 <midnightmagic>	that would be an advantage of numbers.
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Jan 30 14:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic deposit it over 500 transactions, what diff does it make to you ?
Jan 30 14:16:50 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Presumably you could, if you wanted, just decide to keep it.
Jan 30 14:16:54 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: I believe it's more accurate to say that control of coins goes from one txid to another, rather than one address to another. the fact that it's known which address is associated with wich txid at this time is incidental
Jan 30 14:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic you don't send the 5th 1k block till you got the 4th to your addy
Jan 30 14:17:23 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: But it would be an advantage to join with all those people and withdraw, you are correct.
Jan 30 14:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ok, but what does that change ?
Jan 30 14:17:39 <smickles>	pedantry
Jan 30 14:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic im just saying, if i were a scammer trying to part some fiat ivnestors from their money, i'd do the exact thing he's doing.
Jan 30 14:18:02 <mircea_popescu>	not meaning by this he is a scammer, i still think he's an idiot
Jan 30 14:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	but the idea isn't too bright.
Jan 30 14:18:07 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: The mathematics of it makes it impossible.
Jan 30 14:18:17 <mircea_popescu>	say what ?!
Jan 30 14:18:23 <midnightmagic>	he couldn't steal the coins.
Jan 30 14:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	not steal the coins.
Jan 30 14:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	he just goes to buffett and proves to him that he owns address X
Jan 30 14:18:37 <midnightmagic>	it's impossible, he doesn't have sole signing authority of a multisig.
Jan 30 14:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	buffett has a dim understanding of taint and blockchain and doesn't read the forum
Jan 30 14:18:57 <mircea_popescu>	thus believes this guy actually has a billionty bitcoinz
Jan 30 14:19:33 <midnightmagic>	how does he prove to buffett that he "owns" the address from which the money came from? he can't.
Jan 30 14:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	he just "proves" he's btc-rich by association.
Jan 30 14:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	that's the entire point of the exercise, right ?
Jan 30 14:19:59 <midnightmagic>	no, he can't.
Jan 30 14:20:06 <midnightmagic>	no, it's not.
Jan 30 14:20:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 456 @ 0.00066565 = 0.3035 BTC [-]
Jan 30 14:20:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7344 @ 0.00066502 = 4.8839 BTC [-]
Jan 30 14:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	ok, again from the top
Jan 30 14:20:15 <midnightmagic>	He's wrecking identity collapse methods.
Jan 30 14:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	maybe we're not talking of the same thing.
Jan 30 14:21:09 <midnightmagic>	Okay, from the top. When someone tries to figure out a particular identity, they use the method as described in the identifying mechanisms presented at 28c3 in germany: transactions "prove" that the person who "owns" the inputs is the same person.
Jan 30 14:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Jan 30 14:21:29 <midnightmagic>	This method can be used to collect a pile of individual txn and "collapse" all the addresses into one entity.
Jan 30 14:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Jan 30 14:22:17 <midnightmagic>	They're different addresses though. So gmaxwell comes along and offers to join his own money into a multisig *transaction* which has an output of some other, new addresses.
Jan 30 14:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Jan 30 14:22:33 <midnightmagic>	Now, the old methjod of collapsing identity fails. *but* individual addresses still remain the property of the original people.
Jan 30 14:22:49 <midnightmagic>	and *actual coinage* never actually goes through gmaxwell's hands.
Jan 30 14:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Jan 30 14:23:00 <midnightmagic>	there's no way of "proving" that the money is in an address that gmaxwell can use to spend.
Jan 30 14:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	but wait.
Jan 30 14:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	the entire process actually involves an address of gmaxwell into what'd be a single collapsed identity.
Jan 30 14:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	right ?
Jan 30 14:23:41 <midnightmagic>	so he couldn't go to buffett and prove he owns the coins without lying to him and claiming that "that one txn right there proves i could have controlled x money" because he can't forge the signature of the address from the bigspender.
Jan 30 14:23:47 <midnightmagic>	no.
Jan 30 14:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	...
Jan 30 14:24:04 <midnightmagic>	well. lemme go read wtf he wrote.
Jan 30 14:24:21 <midnightmagic>	because I've already done it with him a bunch of times, so lemme go check and see whether it's the same thing.
Jan 30 14:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	dude, it's simple. currently people think they can group addies into wallets
Jan 30 14:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	by means of collapsing txns
Jan 30 14:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	gmaxwell is trying to collect a number of addies in varying wallets into single such collapsed presumed wallets
Jan 30 14:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	to show that it doesn't work, he tells us.
Jan 30 14:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	but it may well be to show someone who doesn't read the forum that he has a huge wallet.
Jan 30 14:26:26 <midnightmagic>	no, it doesn't pass through his addresses.
Jan 30 14:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	ok, let me formalise this.
Jan 30 14:26:35 <midnightmagic>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139581.msg1486430#msg1486430
Jan 30 14:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1491 @ 0.00730522 = 10.8921 BTC [-]
Jan 30 14:27:23 <midnightmagic>	What would need to happen would be that someone would have to take the word of a totally untrusted third-party who says, "well look here, this is all from the same person"
Jan 30 14:27:49 <midnightmagic>	but this is the naive viewpoint, because identity collapsing could just be limited to txn which involve limited outputs.
Jan 30 14:28:08 <mircea_popescu>	There's addresses a1-an, b1-bn, ... x1-xn belonging to wallets A, B, ... X. Through tx collapse one can extract out of the blockchain what appear like wallets A', B', ... X'. These wallets will contain a number of addresses, which may or may not coincide with the proper a1-an set for A. In general it's safe to asume that A != A', but it may also be the case that A ~= A'.
Jan 30 14:28:13 <mircea_popescu>	this ok so far ?
Jan 30 14:28:19 <midnightmagic>	At any rate, there's no way to prove to buffett that he specifically had *control* of the coins.
Jan 30 14:29:20 <midnightmagic>	the spends go to completely unrelated addresses, which the end-user should be careful not to mix in terms of spending, with the input addresses.
Jan 30 14:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	well so ok or not ok!
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Jan 30 14:30:30 <midnightmagic>	hrm. i'd have to think about it some more to agree with your statement. there's a large hand-wavey part wrapped up in the identity collapse.
Jan 30 14:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	well yeah. but it yields somehow some sort of A' approximation
Jan 30 14:31:06 <mircea_popescu>	however wildly inaccurate.
Jan 30 14:31:07 <midnightmagic>	Also, when you use ~=, do you mean "approximately equals"?
Jan 30 14:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Jan 30 14:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	in the sense that [1, 9, b] approximately equals the set of prime numbers.
Jan 30 14:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	b isn't even a number and 9 isn't prime, but hey.
Jan 30 14:31:58 <smickles>	pedantry/g 20
Jan 30 14:32:02 <smickles>	lol
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Jan 30 14:32:24 <smickles>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 14:32:27 <gribble>	There are currently 14208.378 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 283035.775173 USD in total.
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Jan 30 14:33:44 <midnightmagic>	I interpret the ~= to mean that some addresses overlap or can be related to the addresses prior, but that's what I say can't be related unless the owner of the outputs of the transactions signs a non-multisig transaction that requires A' *and* A addresses together in a single-output txn, *and* we assume that people would automatically steal from one another if they could.
Jan 30 14:34:15 <dub>	midnightmagic: I thought gmaxwell was generally against coin mixing, he railled aganst gpumax for that reason unless I am forgetful
Jan 30 14:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic what difference does all that make tho ?
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Jan 30 14:34:54 <midnightmagic>	dub: Actually, he railed against gpumax because gpumax appeared to be a coin laundry that the participants were unaware of. (exchanging dirty for pristine at a premium.)
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Jan 30 14:35:34 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: It means that gmaxwell can't prove to buffett that he owns those coins; and that his purpose isn't to put on a tweed coat and a bowler's hat and smoke a pipe and say he's rich.
Jan 30 14:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	never mind that, don't jump ahead.
Jan 30 14:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	im trying to construct the logic of this here, stay with the step we're on
Jan 30 14:36:12 <dub>	midnightmagic: so what he's doing isn't making laundry of btc unnecessary?
Jan 30 14:36:20 <midnightmagic>	lol but we can't move on without detailing the method of identity collapse.
Jan 30 14:36:42 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Jan 30 14:36:43 <midnightmagic>	dub: What he's doing involves two or three (or more) parties who are taking an enormous risk that the outputs won't be used for nefarious purposes.
Jan 30 14:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	makes no difference. for all we care it can be throwing darts.
Jan 30 14:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	it's a method. black box.
Jan 30 14:37:01 <dub>	its all about fungibility thought right?
Jan 30 14:37:14 <dub>	which is the aim of money laundering
Jan 30 14:37:25 <midnightmagic>	because you are formalizing something based on hand-wavey identity collapse methods which transactions like gmaxwell's proposed txn are being designed specifically to foil.
Jan 30 14:37:26 <approxprime>	dub: i thought gmax didn't like gpumax b/c it gave financial incentive to undermine the mineing network
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Jan 30 14:38:11 <dub>	smickles: idk, I thought it was the laundry aspect
Jan 30 14:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	this is ridiculous.
Jan 30 14:38:28 <dub>	anyway, my confusion was teh apparent about face
Jan 30 14:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	dude, if i say "a car will move items around the surface of the earth" a discussion of combustion engines is out of place
Jan 30 14:38:34 <midnightmagic>	smickles: I'm not really sure how it could except by tipping someone over 50%. pirate claimed on many occasions that gpumax often had > 50% of the hashrate but he was being responsible wiht it.
Jan 30 14:39:05 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Hey man that's a false analogy. But if you want to rhetorically accept the "identity collapse" thing, fine. Go on then and make your point, I'll listen.
Jan 30 14:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	thank you!
Jan 30 14:39:33 <midnightmagic>	(i just wanted to register my objection early)
Jan 30 14:39:41 <mircea_popescu>	so, accepting that however flawed, nonsensical or poiintless, some sort of method makes A' out of perceived interractions in the blockchain
Jan 30 14:40:00 <mircea_popescu>	gmaxwell proposes to deliberately add together a3, b9, c4, f12 etc
Jan 30 14:40:18 <dub>	sorry, whats the difference between "identity colapse" and "money laundering"?
Jan 30 14:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	so as to carefully construct something that by that however flawerd, nonsensical etc method WOULD APPEAR to be a single wallet, call it G
Jan 30 14:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	right ?
Jan 30 14:40:51 <midnightmagic>	dub: One of them is a forensic analysis of transactions to determine likely owners, and the other is an attempt to use transactions to foil the methods of determining owners.
Jan 30 14:41:05 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: No, not a single wallet.
Jan 30 14:41:12 <dub>	midnightmagic: lol but the end result is the same no?
Jan 30 14:41:15 <midnightmagic>	oh, sorry, I know what you mean.
Jan 30 14:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	right!
Jan 30 14:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	so now, at this point, we have two results.
Jan 30 14:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	publicly, we have the result that indeed the method is discredited.
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Jan 30 14:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	privately, however, if some idiot doesn;'t know about all this, we have what may be construed as a very fat wallet G
Jan 30 14:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	which gmaxwell can :"prove" he owns by signing with his own address
Jan 30 14:42:06 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: By the methods of identity collapse as they stand, yes, it comingles wallets and makes A B C D ... X all appear to be G
Jan 30 14:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	as tenuous proof as this would be
Jan 30 14:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	my point is entirely that some naive party may actually be thus fooled.
Jan 30 14:42:34 <midnightmagic>	he couldn't prove he owned them because he could prove he was able to make *all* of the signatures in the multisig. only a fraction of them.
Jan 30 14:42:50 <mircea_popescu>	right, but that may be the standard he's held to.
Jan 30 14:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	"a tiny fraction", ie, one.
Jan 30 14:43:08 <midnightmagic>	Either you or I could go prove to a naive party that we own all the bticoins in the world right now.
Jan 30 14:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	well yes, but this is a little more ellaborate than just "it's based on math"
Jan 30 14:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	now, again, im not saying this is what gmaxwell is doing
Jan 30 14:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	all im saying is i wouldn't participate inter alia because i have not any way of knowing this isn't the case.
Jan 30 14:43:54 <midnightmagic>	Cryptographic proof would require gmaxwell produce sigs which show he was the owner of *all* the inputs to the transaction.
Jan 30 14:43:55 <mircea_popescu>	as unlikely as it may seem or ultimately be.
Jan 30 14:45:35 <midnightmagic>	I would offer that people who would believe gmaxwell's partial multisig signatures means he owned millions of dollars maybe aren't the sort of people you want to be getting into bed in business with anyway.
Jan 30 14:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	well... maybe.
Jan 30 14:46:04 <mircea_popescu>	people who have money are usually old. people who grok technology are usually young.
Jan 30 14:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	the two rarely meet on equal footing.
Jan 30 14:46:12 <midnightmagic>	Vint Cerf?
Jan 30 14:46:23 <midnightmagic>	I love that guy. He looks like the Architect from the Matrix.
Jan 30 14:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/01/zimbabwe-down-its-last-217/61562/
Jan 30 14:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	this article is great, incidentally.
Jan 30 14:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	buncha niggers got uppity, kicked out the white "opressors"
Jan 30 14:46:57 <midnightmagic>	Don't super-rich people usually rely on other people to tell them what's going on?
Jan 30 14:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	are now starving.
Jan 30 14:47:22 <midnightmagic>	whoa brutal man :-/
Jan 30 14:47:25 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic yeah. problem is sometimes these people are experts a la taaki.
Jan 30 14:47:35 <midnightmagic>	taaki?
Jan 30 14:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic right. stealing farmer's farms because they're white wasn't brutal.
Jan 30 14:48:04 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Calling them names isn't helpful given the brutal oppression involved.
Jan 30 14:48:13 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2013/01/17/Zimbabwe-clinic-cleared-of-goblins/UPI-22371358443628/ << better
Jan 30 14:48:22 <mircea_popescu>	im all for opression.
Jan 30 14:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	the civilisation of the human race is a work of opression. our problem is that we've stopped doing it.
Jan 30 14:48:57 <midnightmagic>	hahaha  goblins.
Jan 30 14:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	"IRISVALE HALT, Zimbabwe, Jan. 17 (UPI) -- Residents of a Zimbabwe village said they've "cleansed" a medical clinic of goblins but nurses who fled the clinic are still too afraid to come back to work."
Jan 30 14:49:08 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Jan 30 14:49:16 <midnightmagic>	i'm gonna have to back slowly away from this conversation now..
Jan 30 14:49:16 <mircea_popescu>	ihalped.jpg
Jan 30 14:49:32 <midnightmagic>	or at least that topic.
Jan 30 14:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	you seriously see a problem with smacking the "residents" of the hut agglomeration across the skull
Jan 30 14:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	till they're cleansed of goblins in the head ?
Jan 30 14:51:21 <smickles>	i suspect the (language used in)zimbabwe to english transation which results in goblin, starts with ginger
Jan 30 14:51:51 <dub>	doubt it
Jan 30 14:52:05 <smickles>	i want to belive
Jan 30 14:52:18 <smickles>	that they arn't seriously talike about goblins
Jan 30 14:52:39 <smickles>	*talken'
Jan 30 14:52:46 <dub>	thats the seat of the 'raping virgiins cures your aids' wisdom
Jan 30 14:53:06 <midnightmagic>	is the goblin cleanse involving people getting the shit kicked out of them?
Jan 30 14:53:46 <dub>	unfortunately I think the reality is that our species needs quite a bit of die-back and the natural place for this to occur is the third world
Jan 30 14:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	prolly some sort of evil spirit
Jan 30 14:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	whatcha got against gingers ?
Jan 30 14:53:58 <mircea_popescu>	dub i thought that was more like congo
Jan 30 14:53:59 <midnightmagic>	I see a problem with the notion that white people are blameless and that civilising people requires brutal murderous oppression.
Jan 30 14:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic i wonder how they pronounce salem in khosa
Jan 30 14:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	xhosa*
Jan 30 14:54:18 <mircea_popescu>	white people are not blameless
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Jan 30 14:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	in fact, they're about as stupid as anyone else.
Jan 30 14:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	but civilising requires beating.
Jan 30 14:54:33 <midnightmagic>	I agree!
Jan 30 14:54:40 <midnightmagic>	I disagree with the beating statement!
Jan 30 14:54:42 <midnightmagic>	lol
Jan 30 14:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	heh. too late :D
Jan 30 14:55:14 <midnightmagic>	All it needs is a strong science-based education and it just naturally follows.
Jan 30 14:55:20 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the only thing i have against gingers is that there is more humor revolving around gingers than mutt-american
Jan 30 14:55:21 <midnightmagic>	heh heh
Jan 30 14:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	ever since you bleedin' hearts took out the beatings nothing gets done anymore.
Jan 30 14:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	smickles actually ginger chicks are the best!
Jan 30 14:56:09 <midnightmagic>	dark red angry chicks are pretty awesome.
Jan 30 14:56:10 <smickles>	i don't hold that against them tho
Jan 30 14:56:11 <smickles>	:P
Jan 30 14:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 30 14:56:51 <mircea_popescu>	plus, a good caning shows for like a week
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Jan 30 14:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. so is zimbabwe becoming the first extrateritorial province of china ?
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Jan 30 15:00:36 <DeadWeasel>	don't they own the majority of America's debt too?
Jan 30 15:00:43 <jborkl>	about to take out $20
Jan 30 15:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 30 15:02:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.65807, Best ask: 19.68000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02193, Last trade: 19.68000, 24 hour volume: 49442.39791191, 24 hour low: 18.70000, 24 hour high: 19.73800, 24 hour vwap: 19.37328
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Jan 30 15:03:50 <midnightmagic>	americans seem to be more willing to just inflate their currency rather than let the chinese dominate foreign debt as much as they were.
Jan 30 15:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	yeah but i suspect the chinese are about a degree of magnitude more competent with infiltration
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Jan 30 15:05:19 <EskimoBob>	oh look, scumbag woman beater mircea_popescu is shooting shit again
Jan 30 15:05:41 <EskimoBob>	fuck, what is wrong with my ignore filter, it works, then it's not
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Jan 30 15:06:35 <dub>	<midnightmagic> All it needs is a strong science-based education and it just naturally follows.
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Jan 30 15:06:39 <dub>	lol
Jan 30 15:06:57 <dub>	that is some religion level disconnect
Jan 30 15:06:59 <thestringpuller>	we need more bitches up in herr
Jan 30 15:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	alll it needs is math.
Jan 30 15:07:03 <thestringpuller>	here*
Jan 30 15:07:11 <dub>	mircea_popescu: MAFF
Jan 30 15:07:16 <mircea_popescu>	muff ?
Jan 30 15:07:23 <dub>	and fings
Jan 30 15:07:25 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: you a bitch, how many do we need?
Jan 30 15:09:00 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: hater to the end
Jan 30 15:09:32 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: hater? what do I hate now?
Jan 30 15:09:40 <EskimoBob>	you? LOL
Jan 30 15:10:48 <EskimoBob>	you make me laugh string puller (or can I call you just "butt floss", boy)
Jan 30 15:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066935 = 2.8923 BTC [+]
Jan 30 15:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00066967 = 2.7456 BTC [+]
Jan 30 15:11:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4079 @ 0.00067234 = 2.7425 BTC [+]
Jan 30 15:12:05 <midnightmagic>	dub: 11:55 < midnightmagic> heh heh
Jan 30 15:12:20 <midnightmagic>	dub: So.. I guess.. that is some religion-level context elimination
Jan 30 15:12:39 <midnightmagic>	:)
Jan 30 15:13:08 <dub>	guilty
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Jan 30 15:15:11 <EskimoBob>	but this limp dick (all women beaters are) romanian scumbag is just embarrassingly pathetic and bit annoying
Jan 30 15:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	if you're going to make better people by educating them
Jan 30 15:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	history is prolly a better bet than maff.
Jan 30 15:15:53 <dub>	EskimoBob: stop talking to yourself crazy person, everyone else tuned you out a long time ago
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Jan 30 15:16:29 <EskimoBob>	dub: except you.. this is so nice of you
Jan 30 15:16:39 <midnightmagic>	angry EskimoBob
Jan 30 15:17:06 <EskimoBob>	but folss, why do you think I am angry?
Jan 30 15:17:13 <EskimoBob>	butt* ;)
Jan 30 15:17:37 <midnightmagic>	vitriolic people who aren't angry usually have scarier problems?
Jan 30 15:18:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00730522 = 13.1494 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 15:19:48 <Bugpowder>	https://twitter.com/jgarzik
Jan 30 15:20:41 <dub>	http://dundundun.net/
Jan 30 15:21:51 <jcpham>	the tweet
Jan 30 15:22:16 <dub>	I'd be out the door quick smart
Jan 30 15:22:18 <EskimoBob>	midnightmagic: did you blink and forgot the question?
Jan 30 15:22:26 <dub>	fuck work or whatever else he's doing
Jan 30 15:22:35 <jcpham>	yeah no joke
Jan 30 15:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	o is it ?!
Jan 30 15:22:40 <Bugpowder>	every moment he delays is money out of his pocket
Jan 30 15:22:44 <jcpham>	i would be mining
Jan 30 15:22:48 <jcpham>	it if exists
Jan 30 15:22:50 <Bugpowder>	Maybe someone will buy my idiffs
Jan 30 15:23:11 <dub>	boss: I've got the shits, bye
Jan 30 15:23:11 <mircea_popescu>	lolz
Jan 30 15:23:12 <midnightmagic>	EskimoBob: Did you rage and forget the rage?
Jan 30 15:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	wait, wait.
Jan 30 15:23:31 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't someone posting a supposed cgiminer screenshot earlier ?
Jan 30 15:23:39 <dub>	mircea_popescu: wizkid was trolling
Jan 30 15:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was from j a ok
Jan 30 15:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	how long did it take in the end, 10 days ?
Jan 30 15:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140052
Jan 30 15:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty good.
Jan 30 15:27:07 <dub>	b-cup?
Jan 30 15:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	who ?
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Jan 30 15:27:41 <jcpham>	no way i'm giving that guy money
Jan 30 15:27:54 <jcpham>	i rememeber all his spew on the foum after pirate ditched
Jan 30 15:28:03 <jcpham>	he was going to "help out"
Jan 30 15:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	what, apprehend the evil doers and restore peace and justice
Jan 30 15:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	and save the day ?
Jan 30 15:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	tom green is like gengis khan. somehow he's managed to have like 200 million kids.
Jan 30 15:31:38 <smickles>	lol, so he raised the 15million or so usd to start a credit union?
Jan 30 15:31:45 <smickles>	it says it's 100% legal
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Jan 30 15:32:38 <dub>	I don't think he's in the US
Jan 30 15:33:30 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think he knows what he's doing.
Jan 30 15:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	has some funny site run off a sort of blogspot free hoster
Jan 30 15:33:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2385 @ 0.00066502 = 1.5861 BTC [-]
Jan 30 15:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00066216 = 6.9196 BTC [-]
Jan 30 15:33:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00065909 = 6.1625 BTC [-]
Jan 30 15:35:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 85 @ 0.0075 = 0.6375 BTC [+]
Jan 30 15:36:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 15:41:19 <smickles>	dub:BITCOIN CREDIT UNION
Jan 30 15:41:20 <smickles>	8613 REED DRIVE #1
Jan 30 15:41:20 <smickles>	28594 EMERALD ISLE NC
Jan 30 15:41:20 <smickles>	USA
Jan 30 15:41:25 <smickles>	from his link
Jan 30 15:41:49 <dub>	otru
Jan 30 15:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	cool, cause his link is to norway's dba authority
Jan 30 15:41:53 <DeadWeasel>	are people sending him coins?
Jan 30 15:42:18 <mircea_popescu>	and theres some reference to having to do it in sweden somewhere
Jan 30 15:42:23 <dub>	they inevitably will
Jan 30 15:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin wants to be sent.
Jan 30 15:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	smickles see what a sucker you are ?
Jan 30 15:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	should have made a credit union instead of an accounting firm
Jan 30 15:43:33 <DeadWeasel>	it does. it's so easy it almost jumps out of my wallet.
Jan 30 15:43:44 <smickles>	§ 54‑50.  Number of incorporators; capital stock.
Jan 30 15:43:46 <smickles>	Any number of persons, resident freeholders of the State, not less than 15, may associate to establish an association on the terms and conditions and subject to the liabilities hereinafter prescribed. The aggregate amount of the capital stock of any such association shall not be less than twenty thousand dollars ($20,000). Such association shall mean a corporation organized under the laws of the State for the purpose of making loans upon agricultu
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Jan 30 15:43:59 <smickles>	well, it's a little easer than arizona
Jan 30 15:44:17 <smickles>	but NC requires 15 peeps and 20kusd
Jan 30 15:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	whoa no wai.
Jan 30 15:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	there's just no wai that's the whole story.
Jan 30 15:44:56 <smickles>	and if he just meets the minimus, it severely limits what he can do in his operations
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Jan 30 15:46:33 <jborkl>	Wait, I don't see the point of what he is doing. If you need to exchange there is GOX and if someone needs a loan they just go scam off the lending forum right?
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Jan 30 15:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl something like that
Jan 30 15:50:26 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: actually, it changed in 1981
Jan 30 15:50:29 <smickles>	to 10 peeps
Jan 30 15:50:37 <smickles>	and 350000 usd
Jan 30 15:51:25 <dub>	jesus christ
Jan 30 15:51:29 <smickles>	and an additional 75000 to be held has proof they can pay their expenses for the first year
Jan 30 15:51:37 <dub>	the internet might be about to have a bad day
Jan 30 15:51:52 <smickles>	all funds have to be withdrawable in us legal tender if requested
Jan 30 15:52:15 <EskimoBob>	any of you in US? Can you order me some tools (nothing big or heavy) and then ship this stuff to me in a different box. I do not want to be killed by VAT :)
Jan 30 15:52:19 <smickles>	the administrator of it has to have a net worth of >=1.5 million usd
Jan 30 15:52:26 <smickles>	*personal net worth
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Jan 30 15:53:26 <smickles>	it needs a permanent capital reserver of no less than 500000 in addition to all this other stuff
Jan 30 15:53:56 <dub>	EskimoBob logic 101: 1) call eveyone names and generally make a cunt out of yourself 2) ask them to break teh law for you
Jan 30 15:58:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-]
Jan 30 15:59:19 <EskimoBob>	dub: when did you, buttflushboy and that romanina lunatic = eveyone ?
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Jan 30 16:05:35 <smickles>	EskimoBob: rather than circumventing local law, why don't you get the law changed?
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Jan 30 16:06:30 <EskimoBob>	smickles: good idea. Let me do that right now
Jan 30 16:06:56 <smickles>	heh, i'm sure it take longer than that, but lowering taxes ought to be popular enough
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Jan 30 16:07:38 <EskimoBob>	it actually used to fine, but then EU lowered the minimum mail order level to something like 25 USD.
Jan 30 16:07:41 <smickles>	and there is probably an organization already trying to acheive the same goal
Jan 30 16:08:17 <EskimoBob>	now you gate hit 20% VAT plus some other absurd fees, if ordering stuff from outside of EU
Jan 30 16:09:21 <rng29a>	how long does it take before a bet appears on bitbet ?
Jan 30 16:09:34 <EskimoBob>	what is bitbet?
Jan 30 16:09:44 <EskimoBob>	never mind :)
Jan 30 16:10:06 <rng29a>	lol
Jan 30 16:10:08 <smickles>	EskimoBob: http://www.cutthevat.co.uk/
Jan 30 16:10:30 <EskimoBob>	smickles: i usually order books and this got really expensive after that VAT change
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Jan 30 16:11:15 <EskimoBob>	smickles: even food has 20% VAT
Jan 30 16:11:16 <smickles>	if you ain't co.ukian, i'm sure they could put you in touch with your country's similar organization
Jan 30 16:12:09 <EskimoBob>	smickles: i stay clear of politics.
Jan 30 16:12:29 <smickles>	heh, an excellent reason why you should pay the vat
Jan 30 16:12:35 <smickles>	you don't care to oppose it
Jan 30 16:15:46 <EskimoBob>	a man has to sink to really disgustingly low level to get involved with politicians and politics (or become one). This level of scum is so deep down there... brr
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Jan 30 16:23:39 <zerokwel>	whats the point in being in politics they all as bad as each other
Jan 30 16:24:25 <zerokwel>	and yep 20% vat sux
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Jan 30 16:29:37 <jcpham>	muahahha
Jan 30 16:29:54 <jcpham>	smickles the credit union is Sweeeeeeeeeedish
Jan 30 16:30:06 <jcpham>	he complies with all Sweeeeden laws
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Jan 30 16:35:11 <dub>	rape capital of the world
Jan 30 16:35:22 <Bugpowder>	wow.   S.DICE over 1,100,000 BTC bet this month
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Jan 30 16:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.9789 BTC [-]
Jan 30 16:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 0.95 = 4.75 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 16:50:54 <jurov>	http://garzikrants.blogspot.sk/2013/01/once-upon-time-in-china-package-shipped.html
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Jan 30 16:51:39 <dub>	its HUGE
Jan 30 16:51:57 <Diablo-D3>	its not really that big
Jan 30 16:52:02 <Diablo-D3>	its smaller than my ATX case
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Jan 30 16:57:49 <Bugpowder>	They shipped it with a chinese power cable?
Jan 30 16:57:58 <Bugpowder>	hope he has an adapter
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Jan 30 16:58:03 <Namworld>	hmm... S.DICE profits went down like hell...
Jan 30 16:58:18 <Bugpowder>	yah
Jan 30 16:58:21 <Bugpowder>	variance dood
Jan 30 16:58:33 <Bugpowder>	nobody talks about the variance when S.DICE outperforms
Jan 30 16:59:09 <jcpham>	i love variance
Jan 30 16:59:30 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 21000/.0075/100000000
Jan 30 16:59:31 <gribble>	0.028
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Jan 30 16:59:40 <Bugpowder>	2.8% EV dividend
Jan 30 16:59:42 <Bugpowder>	not bad
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Jan 30 16:59:55 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 21000/.00735/100000000
Jan 30 16:59:56 <gribble>	0.0285714285714
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Jan 30 17:01:16 <Bugpowder>	>7000 bids over 19, >30000 bids over 18, 13000 bids below 20.  I think tonight is the night
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Jan 30 17:01:31 <Namworld>	We're not at 21k profit tho =P
Jan 30 17:01:42 <Namworld>	sadly =/
Jan 30 17:01:50 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 30 17:02:09 <Bugpowder>	if your vision is only till the end of the month, disappointment is understandable
Jan 30 17:02:34 <Bugpowder>	If your vision is for a few months from now... that growth rate and EV return should support a higher share valuation
Jan 30 17:02:47 <Bugpowder>	I think .01 is likely soon.
Jan 30 17:03:47 <Namworld>	It's mostly fueled by some large "whale"
Jan 30 17:03:54 <Namworld>	who knows when it will go away
Jan 30 17:04:22 <Namworld>	I prefer seeing lots of smaller gamblers growth.
Jan 30 17:04:55 <Bugpowder>	yes, and we have seen smaller gamblers growth too
Jan 30 17:05:19 <Bugpowder>	look at the betting thats going on in the 5-20 BTC range
Jan 30 17:05:31 <Bugpowder>	some other players that were not around last month
Jan 30 17:05:48 <Namworld>	yeah, but not as significant
Jan 30 17:06:11 <Namworld>	I wouldn't include the whale in the valuation of S.DICE
Jan 30 17:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00734477 = 5.1413 BTC [+]
Jan 30 17:08:17 <Bugpowder>	There is the question of what happens if he 'runs out' of coins.  Can he get more? I think that some of the whale addresses only started betting when the other ones ran out of coins.
Jan 30 17:08:28 <dub>	http://garzikrants.blogspot.no/2013/01/avalon-modular-room-to-expand.html
Jan 30 17:08:34 <Bugpowder>	Which would imply to me that there may be other whale address out there.
Jan 30 17:10:02 <Bugpowder>	Oh my
Jan 30 17:10:04 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Di6ux3CQBNXCZLD76BsnYWDo6XnFGzQah
Jan 30 17:10:17 <Bugpowder>	I didn't realize that 1Di6ux came back from the dead!
Jan 30 17:11:41 <gesell>	wtf, is that a USB to serial card or something like that on the avalon?
Jan 30 17:14:36 <gesell>	Namworld: where did you see S.DICE profs, did they give earnings?
Jan 30 17:15:29 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.new
Jan 30 17:15:41 <Namworld>	douglus regularly makes new graphs
Jan 30 17:16:09 <jurov>	lol bitcointalk madness: http://alfixturedesign.com/420/asic.gif
Jan 30 17:19:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 9 @ 0.10792579 = 0.9713 BTC [-]
Jan 30 17:20:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 6 @ 0.12950674 = 0.777 BTC [+]
Jan 30 17:20:50 <Bugpowder>	THis address topped up the 1Di6ux address with a 4104 BTC deposit after it ran dry...    1B5h9sf6xNLYGa3NBk48hwYbxyNZ22PRJk
Jan 30 17:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> nobody talks about the variance when S.DICE outperforms << i do lol
Jan 30 17:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	rng29a takes one confirm.
Jan 30 17:23:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7588 @ 0.00066522 = 5.0477 BTC [+]
Jan 30 17:23:50 <rng29a>	mircea_popescu: thanks, blockchain.info showed 2 already, but my bet appeared shortly after that
Jan 30 17:23:50 <StarenseN>	will asics affect the market prices ?
Jan 30 17:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	there;s a parser involved i guess. anyway.
Jan 30 17:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	StarenseN market prices of what tho ?
Jan 30 17:24:29 <Bugpowder>	IDIFF
Jan 30 17:24:31 <StarenseN>	bitcoin
Jan 30 17:24:58 <Bugpowder>	it will cause X.IDIFF.MAR to rocket higher.  BUY NOW!
Jan 30 17:24:59 <mircea_popescu>	prolly not the exchange rate. asics capital costs are already paid by buyers, maintenance is low
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Jan 30 17:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder even if the avaolon full 1st batch is delivered and works it still won't push diff up by 100% right ?
Jan 30 17:25:47 <Bugpowder>	shhh
Jan 30 17:26:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 2 @ 0.10792579 = 0.2159 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 17:28:18 <StarenseN>	is it possible that the first ASICS will drain more BTC/day before the next difficulty adjustment ?
Jan 30 17:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Jan 30 17:28:58 <StarenseN>	when is the next difficulty adjustement ?
Jan 30 17:29:15 <jurov>	~ in a week
Jan 30 17:29:24 <StarenseN>	okay
Jan 30 17:29:37 <StarenseN>	in that way the market can fluctuate a bit
Jan 30 17:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	StarenseN the way it works is that diff is recalculated every 2k blocks
Jan 30 17:29:46 <Bugpowder>	less than a week if asics make a difference
Jan 30 17:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	if you double output you will do the 2k blocks in a week instead of two
Jan 30 17:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	and so get 2x as many block rewards a day.
Jan 30 17:30:11 <StarenseN>	alright that's a good news
Jan 30 17:30:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00066522 = 4.5235 BTC [+]
Jan 30 17:30:30 <rng29a>	;;bcstats
Jan 30 17:30:34 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 218801 | Current Difficulty: 2968775.3320750743 | Next Difficulty At Block: 219743 | Next Difficulty In: 942 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 43 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3094501.22024 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.23494
Jan 30 17:30:57 <StarenseN>	ok difficulty is block based and not time based
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Jan 30 17:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://salsafrica.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/nigeria-google.jpg lmao
Jan 30 17:31:29 <rng29a>	indirectly also time based, if the hashrate doesn't change too much
Jan 30 17:31:34 <StarenseN>	I where about the enter the market within the hour but now just break to see what will happen
Jan 30 17:31:38 <StarenseN>	was*
Jan 30 17:31:45 <StarenseN>	to*
Jan 30 17:31:46 <StarenseN>	-_-
Jan 30 17:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	StarenseN the entire point of ther blockchain is to offer a distributed time
Jan 30 17:31:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1 @ 0.1923428 BTC [+]
Jan 30 17:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	because otherwise the problem of doublespends.
Jan 30 17:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	so blockchain = btc time pretty much.
Jan 30 17:32:19 <Namworld>	I'll buy X.IDIFF.DEC for 0.03
Jan 30 17:32:23 <Namworld>	=P
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Jan 30 17:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 3 @ 0.18916129 = 0.5675 BTC [+]
Jan 30 17:38:39 <smickles>	woahhoe
Jan 30 17:38:46 <smickles>	soebot taking action
Jan 30 17:39:05 <smickles>	;;ticker
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Jan 30 17:39:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.75001, Best ask: 19.77991, Bid-ask spread: 0.02990, Last trade: 19.73005, 24 hour volume: 45557.23653876, 24 hour low: 19.14901, 24 hour high: 19.78990, 24 hour vwap: 19.46727
Jan 30 17:39:14 <jurov>	did soebot some asic-related prediction? :P
Jan 30 17:39:55 <smickles>	um, no, I think it has made a prediction about a shortterm top
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Jan 30 17:44:45 <Bugpowder>	uhhh
Jan 30 17:44:50 <Bugpowder>	its buying calls and shorting puts
Jan 30 17:45:01 <Bugpowder>	thats not what I would do at a top
Jan 30 17:45:18 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 30 17:45:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.75001, Best ask: 19.79889, Bid-ask spread: 0.04888, Last trade: 19.75001, 24 hour volume: 45045.99365112, 24 hour low: 19.14901, 24 hour high: 19.79890, 24 hour vwap: 19.46955
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Jan 30 17:48:32 <smickles>	Bugpowder: I thought it sold calls
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Jan 30 17:49:06 <smickles>	it hasn't been able to buy anything for a while b/c it speant it's allowance earlier this month
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Jan 30 17:56:31 <Bugpowder>	smickles, my STAT indicates that it sold me some puts.
Jan 30 17:56:45 <Bugpowder>	OR
Jan 30 17:56:52 <Bugpowder>	maybe that was someone else?
Jan 30 17:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.67 = 2.68 BTC [+]
Jan 30 17:58:02 <smickles>	I'm sure it sold puts, just not calls
Jan 30 17:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 15 @ 0.25681627 = 3.8522 BTC [+]
Jan 30 17:59:49 <smickles>	Bugpowder: but won't those puts (the x@18 specifically) be profitable for it down to 16.25 or so?
Jan 30 18:00:05 <smickles>	and the calls it sold are profitable until 22.2
Jan 30 18:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 2 @ 0.21166901 = 0.4233 BTC [+]
Jan 30 18:00:28 <smickles>	i took that to be an expected top
Jan 30 18:00:36 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 30 18:00:48 <Bugpowder>	ok
Jan 30 18:00:54 <Namworld>	the margin is too large on those calls/puts
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Jan 30 18:01:40 <smickles>	Namworld: what do you think it should be?
Jan 30 18:01:44 <Bugpowder>	Namworld, why do you think MPBO makes money?
Jan 30 18:01:49 <Bugpowder>	the spread is HUGE
Jan 30 18:01:55 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 30 18:02:02 <Bugpowder>	smickles and I are working to narrow it
Jan 30 18:02:07 <Bugpowder>	for the people
Jan 30 18:02:11 <Namworld>	oh
Jan 30 18:02:17 <Bugpowder>	a service for the people of bitcoin
Jan 30 18:02:34 <Namworld>	so that you guys would have bots with puts/calls with less spread?
Jan 30 18:02:47 <Namworld>	competing with MPEx's bot?
Jan 30 18:02:58 <Bugpowder>	more or less spread
Jan 30 18:03:10 <Bugpowder>	different options pricing models
Jan 30 18:03:19 <smickles>	Namworld: you could help us out too. get btc volatility below 100%
Jan 30 18:03:21 <Bugpowder>	and thus a market slowly forms
Jan 30 18:03:22 <smickles>	somehow
Jan 30 18:04:30 *	Namworld nukes MtGox and other exchange. Me subtly adds a vulnerability in bitcoind. Me fucks up the whole blockchain by using the corrupted bitcoind to issue transactions from others' computers.
Jan 30 18:04:41 <Namworld>	There you have it, I destroyed Bitcoin
Jan 30 18:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 2 @ 0.21169972 = 0.4234 BTC [+]
Jan 30 18:04:52 <Namworld>	Zero volatility.
Jan 30 18:04:59 <Namworld>	0 USD/BTC all the time!
Jan 30 18:05:04 <smickles>	that would technically work
Jan 30 18:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 2 @ 0.17932444 = 0.3586 BTC [-]
Jan 30 18:05:30 <Namworld>	But that renders the need for zero volatility pointless I guess?
Jan 30 18:05:54 <smickles>	ya, it'd be nicer to just lower it, while keeping value there
Jan 30 18:07:46 <smickles>	well, shit, it's not finding the gain from sale of options anymore
Jan 30 18:08:15 <smickles>	did statjson change format?
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Jan 30 18:09:13 *	jurov looks
Jan 30 18:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5643 @ 0.00066522 = 3.7538 BTC [+]
Jan 30 18:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13079 @ 0.00066601 = 8.7107 BTC [+]
Jan 30 18:10:28 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 19
Jan 30 18:10:30 <gribble>	There are currently 7429.8583 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 142838.038427 USD in total.
Jan 30 18:10:52 <jurov>	smickles, i don't see anything untoward here
Jan 30 18:11:06 <jurov>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 18:11:08 <gribble>	There are currently 12653.694 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 252388.930718 USD in total.
Jan 30 18:11:18 <jurov>	;;asks 20.1
Jan 30 18:11:21 <gribble>	There are currently 12914.407 bitcoins offered at or under 20.1 USD, worth 257617.181497 USD in total.
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Jan 30 18:13:59 <smickles>	jurov: thanks
Jan 30 18:14:35 <smickles>	anyone want to sanitycheck this for me:
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Jan 30 18:15:41 <smickles>	(o for o in stat['TradeHistory'][:-1] if o[o.keys()[0]['MPSIC'] is mpsic and o[0]['BS'] is type_code)
Jan 30 18:15:56 <smickles>	i swear it worked before today
Jan 30 18:18:04 <jurov>	if o[o.keys()[0]['MPSIC'] << syntax error, no?
Jan 30 18:18:20 <jurov>	one superfluous [ at 4
Jan 30 18:18:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00734477 = 13.9551 BTC [+]
Jan 30 18:18:46 <smickles>	ah, mystype, add a ] at the end of that
Jan 30 18:19:07 <smickles>	(o for o in stat['TradeHistory'][:-1] if o[o.keys()[0]]['MPSIC'] is mpsic and o[0]['BS'] is type_code)
Jan 30 18:20:51 <jurov>	o[o.keys()[0]]['BS'] perhaps?
Jan 30 18:21:00 <jurov>	instead of o[0]['BS']
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Jan 30 18:25:10 <jurov>	exactly such confusion is why i preprocess stuff in mpexagent
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Jan 30 18:30:30 <jurov>	i take back, TradeHistory is kept mostly as is
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Jan 30 18:32:40 <smickles>	heh, jurov guess what
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Jan 30 18:32:47 <smickles>	I had to change 'is' to '=='
Jan 30 18:34:04 <jurov>	lol, had no idea, i almost never use is
Jan 30 18:35:21 <jurov>	although it evades me why first you access the same dict as o[o.keys()[0]] and second time as o[0]
Jan 30 18:36:00 <smickles>	right well, it shouldn't. it only works if you do it the first way both times :)
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Jan 30 18:36:44 <smickles>	I think is doesn't work because of the python 2.x issue of strings not being unicode
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Jan 30 18:39:10 <jurov>	it isn't guaranteed to work even with numbers:
Jan 30 18:39:29 <jurov>	http://stackoverflow.com/a/2988271/113190
Jan 30 18:39:55 <Bugpowder>	8000 bids over 19
Jan 30 18:40:01 <Bugpowder>	pressure is building
Jan 30 18:40:08 <Bugpowder>	TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT
Jan 30 18:40:14 <Bugpowder>	BITCOIN HEAVEN
Jan 30 18:40:33 <Schadenfreude>	so is the price crashing again or what?
Jan 30 18:40:38 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 30 18:40:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.75002, Best ask: 19.78299, Bid-ask spread: 0.03297, Last trade: 19.75002, 24 hour volume: 45265.46226377, 24 hour low: 19.14901, 24 hour high: 19.79890, 24 hour vwap: 19.47814
Jan 30 18:41:04 <Bugpowder>	crashing??
Jan 30 18:41:13 <Bugpowder>	no the bidwall keeps building over 19
Jan 30 18:41:17 <pizzaman1337>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 18:41:19 <gribble>	There are currently 12834.935 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 256016.049305 USD in total.
Jan 30 18:41:33 <smickles>	lol, Bugpowder: The Misunderstood Optimist
Jan 30 18:42:53 <Bugpowder>	knock, knock
Jan 30 18:43:12 <smickles>	who's there :)
Jan 30 18:43:47 <Bugpowder>	32
Jan 30 18:44:14 <jurov>	lol... i should sell these s.mpoe quickly then
Jan 30 18:44:16 <smickles>	32 who?
Jan 30 18:44:27 <jurov>	btcusd=32
Jan 30 18:44:35 <Bugpowder>	32 dollars per bitcoin, I rich bitch!
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Jan 30 18:44:51 <smickles>	lol,
Jan 30 18:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00734477 = 0.7345 BTC [+]
Jan 30 18:44:58 <smickles>	we'll never see him again
Jan 30 18:44:58 <jurov>	btcusd============B
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Jan 30 18:45:57 <smickles>	ya know what i realized
Jan 30 18:46:12 <smickles>	mtgox has had steadily decreasing volume for months
Jan 30 18:46:24 <jurov>	how much?
Jan 30 18:46:41 <smickles>	last night I realized that it's because of the stadily increasing exchange rate
Jan 30 18:47:47 <smickles>	people are using more usd to buy btc, but it just doesn't buy as much btc as before
Jan 30 18:47:53 <jurov>	oh you mean btc volume?
Jan 30 18:48:05 <smickles>	yeah
Jan 30 18:48:06 <jurov>	usd is still up?
Jan 30 18:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00734477 = 2.2034 BTC [+]
Jan 30 18:49:22 <smickles>	jurov: ug, you expected me to have proper facts to back up my musings
Jan 30 18:49:40 <smickles>	I predict that usd volume would be relatively flat
Jan 30 18:49:42 <jurov>	:)
Jan 30 18:49:46 *	smickles looks
Jan 30 18:50:49 <dub>	anyone with a forum account and logs of bitcoin want to ask if my ban can be lifted?
Jan 30 18:50:53 <dub>	#bitcoin*
Jan 30 18:51:05 <smickles>	just eyeballing it, it looks like the average would be flat
Jan 30 18:51:46 <smickles>	dub: what'd u b banned 4?
Jan 30 18:52:40 <jurov>	i should have #bitcoin logs
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Jan 30 18:55:09 <dub>	smickles: I told phantoncircuit to lrn2backups
Jan 30 18:55:48 <dub>	(he's the guy that lost the bitcoinica db)
Jan 30 18:56:02 <kakobrekla>	he lost a lot of other stuff as well.
Jan 30 18:56:13 <dub>	well yeah
Jan 30 18:56:43 <dub>	yeah so apparently that enough for a permaban
Jan 30 18:57:03 <kakobrekla>	why give shit?
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Jan 30 18:58:17 <Namworld>	so price increase is due to less people selling their BTC
Jan 30 18:58:31 <Namworld>	not more people spending on stuff with BTC
Jan 30 18:58:39 <Namworld>	if USD volume is stable
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Jan 30 18:58:53 <smickles>	Namworld: I don't think it necessarily means that
Jan 30 18:59:07 <Namworld>	It seems probable tho
Jan 30 18:59:13 <smickles>	people could be usising btc more and not wanting to use it to buy usd
Jan 30 18:59:25 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 30 18:59:35 <novusordo>	supply < demand
Jan 30 18:59:55 <smickles>	I don't have enough evidence to even lean to one side or the other on that issue to
Jan 30 18:59:57 <smickles>	*tho
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Jan 30 19:01:12 <smickles>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 30 19:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063598 / 0.00065668 / 0.00067234 (1000129 shares, 656.77 BTC), 7D: 0.00059613 / 0.00066746 / 0.0007 (22294935 shares, 14,881.06 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065605 / 0.0007 (48621514 shares, 31,898.18 BTC)
Jan 30 19:01:48 <jurov>	haha you didn't forget
Jan 30 19:01:52 <smickles>	:D
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Jan 30 19:07:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006637 = 2.8678 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1834 @ 0.00066367 = 1.2172 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 19:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00731102 = 1.8278 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00731101 = 8.0421 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:09:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 386 @ 0.00730522 = 2.8198 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 14 @ 0.00725328 = 0.1015 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 19:14:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066381 = 2.8683 BTC [+]
Jan 30 19:14:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3466 @ 0.00066367 = 2.3003 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:14:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00066193 = 5.0307 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:14:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2913 @ 0.00065909 = 1.9199 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:14:30 <jurov>	http://garzikrants.blogspot.sk/2013/01/avalon-its-alive.html
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Jan 30 19:16:30 <jurov>	he'll be mining, like, 11BTC/day
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Jan 30 19:17:22 <dub>	or would be
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Jan 30 19:18:56 <dub>	being a lowly principle software engineer at a Fortune 500, his house doesnt have room for a noisy box of fans and a sleeping baby
Jan 30 19:19:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066438 = 2.8708 BTC [+]
Jan 30 19:19:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3630 @ 0.00066454 = 2.4123 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 19:23:51 <thestringpuller>	A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. Ponzi scheme organizers often solicit new investors by promising to invest funds in opportunities claimed to generate high returns with little or no risk. In many Ponzi schemes, the fraudsters focus on attracting new money to make promised payments to earlier-stage in
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Jan 30 19:24:23 <thestringpuller>	as defined by the ecb
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Jan 30 19:24:52 <smickles>	you're not trying to talk sence into the wikipedia peep, are you?
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Jan 30 19:28:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065916 = 2.8482 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7037 @ 0.00065909 = 4.638 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:32:50 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1491584#msg1491584 this sounds like the kind of think Luke-Jr would be only too happy to enable
Jan 30 19:33:03 <dub>	thing*
Jan 30 19:37:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00065833 = 6.0566 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:37:29 <smickles>	he does have a reputation for being that kind of miner, eh?
Jan 30 19:37:54 <dub>	he's already blocking sd txns
Jan 30 19:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 200 @ 0.075 = 15 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:38:35 <dub>	and has used his pool to kill off altchains before
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Jan 30 19:40:59 <Namworld>	Anyone sells cheap IDIFF =/
Jan 30 19:41:27 <jurov>	too late :D
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Jan 30 19:42:34 <mjrIII>	hello everyone :)
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Jan 30 19:43:05 <jurov>	hello
Jan 30 19:43:07 <mjrIII>	saw some discussion of mt. gox volume falling...
Jan 30 19:43:16 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 30 19:43:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.77991, Best ask: 19.84999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07008, Last trade: 19.77991, 24 hour volume: 45553.06333625, 24 hour low: 19.14901, 24 hour high: 19.85000, 24 hour vwap: 19.49509
Jan 30 19:43:20 <mjrIII>	do you think that might be in part due to other exchanges out pricing them?
Jan 30 19:43:24 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 19:43:27 <gribble>	There are currently 11252.413 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 224655.775582 USD in total.
Jan 30 19:43:33 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 19
Jan 30 19:43:35 <gribble>	There are currently 8829.672 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 169915.400713 USD in total.
Jan 30 19:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00065833 = 5.1679 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1575 @ 0.00065713 = 1.035 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:45:44 <Namworld>	Is that really worth it? 0.075?
Jan 30 19:45:58 <mjrIII>	anyone have any dealings with bitfloor?
Jan 30 19:46:08 <smickles>	aye
Jan 30 19:47:28 <mjrIII>	do you like them?
Jan 30 19:47:35 <Namworld>	How much does everyone expects difficulty to raise?
Jan 30 19:47:44 <mjrIII>	i really like liquidity rebates...but need to do due diligence
Jan 30 19:48:05 <Namworld>	I get it some ASICs are already mining or something?
Jan 30 19:48:28 <Bowjob>	Avalon will take pre order batch no. 2 in a few hours
Jan 30 19:48:45 <dub>	Namworld: a little more than double from the first avalon batch it seems
Jan 30 19:49:05 <dub>	assuming 600 units
Jan 30 19:49:49 <mjrIII>	anyone have an estimate on how much a percentage of the total mining power they will be producing? i am guessing low
Jan 30 19:49:59 <mjrIII>	600 of them is the assumption i guess
Jan 30 19:50:21 <dub>	current average is under 25TH
Jan 30 19:50:28 <dub>	600 avalon is 40TH
Jan 30 19:50:36 <mjrIII>	really??
Jan 30 19:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19925 @ 0.00065713 = 13.0933 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00065619 = 0.0039 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 869 @ 0.00065618 = 0.5702 BTC [-]
Jan 30 19:50:43 <dub>	so quite a bit more than double
Jan 30 19:50:46 <dub>	(diff)
Jan 30 19:50:57 <smickles>	mjrIII: i like the liquidity rebates, but they owe me money becaus they had lax security in the past. but it must be said that they are still here and have paid back some of their debt
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Jan 30 19:51:54 <dub>	mjrIII: some stats http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
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Jan 30 19:58:03 <Namworld>	hmm, so difficulty could get up quite a bit hmm
Jan 30 19:58:07 <mjrIII>	yes
Jan 30 19:58:17 <mjrIII>	and i was just starting fpga's...can they compete at all?
Jan 30 19:58:42 <mjrIII>	might have to pony up for an avalon...
Jan 30 19:59:19 <smickles>	mjrIII: http://www.bitcoinx.com/charts1/chart_large_lin_90d.png
Jan 30 19:59:40 <smickles>	if you notice, the last significant change has been recoverd from
Jan 30 19:59:52 <smickles>	gpumining should currently be profitable for most people
Jan 30 20:00:46 <mjrIII>	i am going to open an account at bitfloor tomorrow...i like new york based companies...
Jan 30 20:01:08 <mjrIII>	was there ever any trouble as far as withdrawal (besides security issue)
Jan 30 20:01:18 <pigeons>	heh
Jan 30 20:01:29 <Bowjob>	     Bitcoin Only          No Refunds              No Proof
Jan 30 20:01:32 <smickles>	i don't withdraw usd
Jan 30 20:01:33 <pigeons>	naw other than that they've been alright for me
Jan 30 20:01:35 <Bowjob>	According to Avalon
Jan 30 20:01:39 <dub>	smickles: I'm not sure about most
Jan 30 20:02:19 <dub>	looks like it goes negative at ~20c/kwh
Jan 30 20:02:53 <kakobrekla>	hm
Jan 30 20:03:24 <dub>	and im erring on the high side of mh/w
Jan 30 20:03:38 <smickles>	i usually use http://blockchained.com/ for those charts, but something is up right now
Jan 30 20:03:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16792 @ 0.00065858 = 11.0589 BTC [+]
Jan 30 20:03:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7858 @ 0.00066454 = 5.222 BTC [+]
Jan 30 20:04:20 <dub>	im plugging shit into http://tpbitcalc.appspot.com
Jan 30 20:08:54 <dub>	hrm, I was using power figures from my 5 series cards, using the optimistic numbers on the mining comparison chart for 7970's looks a bit better
Jan 30 20:09:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9231 @ 0.00065618 = 6.0572 BTC [-]
Jan 30 20:09:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.000656 = 2.1648 BTC [-]
Jan 30 20:09:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12369 @ 0.00065258 = 8.0718 BTC [-]
Jan 30 20:09:44 <dub>	unsure which cards have teh best power efficiency these days
Jan 30 20:10:41 <Bowjob>	So according to the calculator, at 60 gigahash/s avalon chip will break even in 3 days? O_O
Jan 30 20:11:22 <mjrIII>	crazy
Jan 30 20:11:40 <Bowjob>	wait 6.6 days I forgot to include the price
Jan 30 20:11:46 <dub>	right now yes, tomorrow maybe not, two weeks from now, no way
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Jan 30 20:12:28 <Namworld>	ok, so is there more than one confirmation of those ASICs?
Jan 30 20:12:31 <dub>	no wait they are $1400?
Jan 30 20:12:35 <Bowjob>	Isn't this around the same condition as the last crash? I mean, back when Bitcoins were worth 30 dollars each, people could make 3 bitcoins a day
Jan 30 20:12:59 <dub>	its 7 days at current diff and $0.10/kwh (which is very cheap power)
Jan 30 20:13:13 <Bowjob>	mines at 0.15 after a certain threshold
Jan 30 20:14:09 <Bowjob>	I'm still trying to wrap my mind around purchasing an Avalon, still on the fence whether it would be profitable after the first batch
Jan 30 20:14:33 <dub>	yeah, at this efficiency power doesn't make much difference
Jan 30 20:15:08 <smickles>	Bowjob: not quite
Jan 30 20:15:12 <dub>	$1/kwh only bumps that up 0.3 days
Jan 30 20:15:31 <Bowjob>	mhm?
Jan 30 20:16:09 <smickles>	Bowjob: during that jump to 30, it went faster
Jan 30 20:16:33 <smickles>	even the 1 to 10 went faster than this 2 to 10, iirc
Jan 30 20:18:01 <Bowjob>	there's a post on the forum saying that the one shipped to Jeff was cherry picked to create a functioning Avalon.. that presents fud to me
Jan 30 20:18:02 <smickles>	also, a lot of the technicals look different this go around
Jan 30 20:18:44 <dub>	Bowjob: you can mostly ignore the forum, especially where asic is involved
Jan 30 20:19:47 <mjrIII>	how is btce getting prints that far off?
Jan 30 20:20:05 <mjrIII>	13.17 vs 19.82
Jan 30 20:20:13 <mjrIII>	oops 19.17 vs 19.82
Jan 30 20:21:08 <dub>	lower volume, high risk of russians running off with your shit
Jan 30 20:21:14 <jurov>	bitstamp similarly
Jan 30 20:21:30 <mjrIII>	ah ok
Jan 30 20:21:35 <jurov>	i think it's due to slow sepa transfers processing by mtgox
Jan 30 20:21:44 <jurov>	not easy to move fiat across
Jan 30 20:21:45 <mjrIII>	yeah, i really like bitfloor's funding options
Jan 30 20:21:58 <mjrIII>	and their lack of fees (who sends market orders anyway?)
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Jan 30 20:31:13 <mjrIII>	geez that spread is tempting
Jan 30 20:32:30 <n9255>	is there a command to get, say, the last 20 messages in a channel?
Jan 30 20:32:56 <n9255>	or to, say, change your nick to your registered one?
Jan 30 20:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065994 = 2.8516 BTC [+]
Jan 30 20:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1879 @ 0.00065996 = 1.2401 BTC [+]
Jan 30 20:34:20 <n9255>	ignoramus here, pm's helping me stop looking ignant are greatly appreciated.
Jan 30 20:35:04 <kakobrekla>	first question, no.
Jan 30 20:35:17 <kakobrekla>	second /nick <nick>
Jan 30 20:35:44 <dub>	try /last 20
Jan 30 20:35:53 <dub>	if you have a sane client
Jan 30 20:36:11 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Jan 30 20:36:20 <dub>	of course you need to be there for those last 20 messages
Jan 30 20:36:29 <n9255>	it worked!
Jan 30 20:36:35 <n9255>	shut, I just outed myself
Jan 30 20:36:38 <n9255>	shit
Jan 30 20:36:42 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Jan 30 20:36:49 <dub>	it also matches patterns which is handy
Jan 30 20:37:18 <n9255>	oh, didnt actually change my nick.  I should probably just change to an irc help chan
Jan 30 20:37:25 <n9255>	recommendations?
Jan 30 20:37:31 <dub>	type /help
Jan 30 20:37:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00065996 = 3.9268 BTC [+]
Jan 30 20:37:56 <dub>	or google, there's not really a channel for that that I know of
Jan 30 20:38:26 <n9255>	thx guys, I'm gonna go rtfm again, sorry to bother, back in a jiffy
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Jan 30 20:41:03 <n9255>	recommend a fee Inc client real quick, win7 64?
Jan 30 20:41:06 <n9255>	free
Jan 30 20:41:12 <n9255>	inc irc
Jan 30 20:41:48 <n9255>	prolly couldn't recommend a better malbec, but thats clearly my territory
Jan 30 20:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4521 @ 0.00065996 = 2.9837 BTC [+]
Jan 30 20:42:54 <dub>	no idea sorry
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Jan 30 20:44:04 <n9255>	lonely windows user here no doubt, way behind the curve.  thx anyway dub.
Jan 30 20:44:07 <smickles>	heh, i'll lol my ass off if n9255 renicks to evoorhees
Jan 30 20:44:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00066163 = 9.329 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 20:49:18 <dub>	n9255: mIRC used to be popular but isnt free, I use pidgin for ICQ/MSN/jabber under win, its free and has an IRC module but it probably sucks
Jan 30 20:49:34 <dub>	google will know about more
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Jan 30 20:49:46 <Namworld>	I just paid for mIRC
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Jan 30 20:49:57 <Namworld>	I tend to just buy my softwares =/
Jan 30 20:50:18 <dub>	there was a broke ass xchat port 10 years ago which might have improved
Jan 30 20:50:37 <DeadWeasel>	shit, to out myself AGAIN, i just downloaded it.
Jan 30 20:50:41 <DeadWeasel>	thx dub, you da man.
Jan 30 20:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00066419 = 1.5276 BTC [+]
Jan 30 20:51:06 <DeadWeasel>	xchat is nice.  how broke is it?
Jan 30 20:51:27 <dub>	idk, havent used it in 10+ years
Jan 30 20:51:45 <DeadWeasel>	well, i'll let you know.
Jan 30 20:53:11 <DeadWeasel>	ok, now that i got this far, i'm gonna go setup my WoT.  I know how unlikely you find that, but nonetheless.
Jan 30 20:54:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2021 @ 0.00066419 = 1.3423 BTC [+]
Jan 30 20:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2179 @ 0.00066454 = 1.448 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 20:55:30 <mjrIII>	there is also a chrome extension which handles IRC
Jan 30 20:55:37 <mjrIII>	not the best
Jan 30 20:55:47 <mjrIII>	but you can have it in browser...also web based clients
Jan 30 20:56:21 <mjrIII>	is sierra leone big into bitcoins?
Jan 30 20:57:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066187 = 2.8599 BTC [-]
Jan 30 20:57:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00066163 = 0.6147 BTC [-]
Jan 30 20:57:50 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 30 20:57:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.80078, Best ask: 19.85993, Bid-ask spread: 0.05915, Last trade: 19.70000, 24 hour volume: 43940.30135412, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.86000, 24 hour vwap: 19.52576
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Jan 30 21:01:09 <smickles>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 21:01:09 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 19
Jan 30 21:01:11 <gribble>	There are currently 11217.276 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 223981.897687 USD in total.
Jan 30 21:01:13 <gribble>	There are currently 9546.1659 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 183733.275014 USD in total.
Jan 30 21:01:13 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 30 21:01:16 <Bugpowder>	Oooooo
Jan 30 21:01:19 <Bugpowder>	gettting CLOSE
Jan 30 21:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066443 = 2.871 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:02:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13933 @ 0.00066454 = 9.259 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4196 @ 0.00066601 = 2.7946 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:02:23 <smickles>	;;calc -18/(.228-1)
Jan 30 21:02:24 <gribble>	23.3160621762
Jan 30 21:03:23 <Bowjob>	I saw the last price at 20.xx
Jan 30 21:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 10 @ 0.2 = 2 BTC [-]
Jan 30 21:03:45 <Bowjob>	http://i47.tinypic.com/2vchmcj.jpg
Jan 30 21:03:48 <Bowjob>	What does this mean?
Jan 30 21:03:52 <Bugpowder>	ha!
Jan 30 21:04:02 <Bugpowder>	someone bot my JUNs
Jan 30 21:04:17 <Bugpowder>	bowjob, bad print probably
Jan 30 21:04:22 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Jan 30 21:04:24 <gribble>	2968775.3320751
Jan 30 21:04:43 <Bugpowder>	wow the xdiff market is heating up
Jan 30 21:05:08 <smickles>	Bowjob: actually, it's prople trading the secret mtgox options
Jan 30 21:05:57 <smickles>	magicaltux claims that they exist, and that the implied value shows up in that last
Jan 30 21:05:59 <dub>	it also means someone isn't using a long enough password
Jan 30 21:06:14 <smickles>	ಠ_ಠ
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Jan 30 21:07:37 <smickles>	gigavps, howdy. were you trolled much today?
Jan 30 21:08:03 <gigavps>	what did i do now?
Jan 30 21:08:15 <smickles>	last I saw, a few were still bitching about needing a notary
Jan 30 21:08:41 <gigavps>	yeah, there are still some complainers
Jan 30 21:08:50 <gigavps>	not much i can do about them
Jan 30 21:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00066601 = 15.3848 BTC [+]
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Jan 30 21:09:08 <gigavps>	over 50% of verified claims have come from outside the us, so......
Jan 30 21:10:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066182 = 2.8597 BTC [-]
Jan 30 21:10:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14329 @ 0.00066163 = 9.4805 BTC [-]
Jan 30 21:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00066163 = 6.881 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 21:13:05 <Bugpowder>	http://pastebin.com/g4BhvCXK
Jan 30 21:13:13 <Bugpowder>	I am starting to doubt
Jan 30 21:13:19 <Bugpowder>	that it is a scam
Jan 30 21:13:37 <dub>	http://garzikrants.blogspot.no/
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Jan 30 21:14:40 <dub>	^ragequit
Jan 30 21:14:52 <Bugpowder>	maybe I send them coins
Jan 30 21:14:52 <Bugpowder>	lol
Jan 30 21:14:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066571 = 2.8765 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:15:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13479 @ 0.00066601 = 8.9771 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:15:01 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Jan 30 21:15:03 <Bugpowder>	67GH/s
Jan 30 21:15:06 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 218830 | Current Difficulty: 2968775.3320751 | Next Difficulty At Block: 219743 | Next Difficulty In: 913 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 1 hour, 34 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3109818.10677799 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.75087397753
Jan 30 21:15:15 <dub>	should be fun watching diff
Jan 30 21:15:21 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 67*300
Jan 30 21:15:22 <gribble>	20100
Jan 30 21:15:35 <Bugpowder>	Looks like I picked the wrong day to create idiff futures
Jan 30 21:16:09 <dub>	is it only 300 units? I saw 600
Jan 30 21:16:15 <Diablo-D3>	300
Jan 30 21:17:01 <smickles>	Bugpowder: not at all, just sell at that sweetspot which is above what will actually happen, but below what people fear will happen
Jan 30 21:17:08 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Jan 30 21:17:12 <Bugpowder>	for sure
Jan 30 21:17:15 <Bugpowder>	shit
Jan 30 21:17:22 <Bugpowder>	how much are these avalons in BTC?
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Jan 30 21:17:54 <dub>	;;calc 1400/[ticker --last]
Jan 30 21:17:55 <gribble>	70.5464528236
Jan 30 21:18:12 <kakobrekla>	3 blocks
Jan 30 21:18:29 <Bugpowder>	45 BTC / difficulty reset
Jan 30 21:19:32 <dub>	1300 US sorry
Jan 30 21:19:39 <kakobrekla>	post says 1500
Jan 30 21:19:58 <dub>	oh, goog found http://store.avalon-asic.com/
Jan 30 21:20:39 <kakobrekla>	how much power does it eat
Jan 30 21:20:41 <smickles>	so, crappiest pre delivery image delivered first?
Jan 30 21:20:49 <dub>	400w apparently
Jan 30 21:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1396 @ 0.00066601 = 0.9297 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15704 @ 0.00066678 = 10.4711 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:21:43 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Jan 30 21:21:55 <kakobrekla>	im thinking about getting one for joke
Jan 30 21:22:11 <Bugpowder>	HOW LOUD ARE THE FANS?
Jan 30 21:22:37 <Diablo-D3>	I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE FANS
Jan 30 21:23:22 <kakobrekla>	buy now doesnt work
Jan 30 21:23:23 <kakobrekla>	meh
Jan 30 21:24:33 <Bugpowder>	meh
Jan 30 21:24:48 <Bugpowder>	I am up 60% in coins this month
Jan 30 21:24:54 <Bugpowder>	without dealing with that shit
Jan 30 21:25:48 <DeadWeasel>	hey y'all. setting up my WoT finally.  Do y'all use a forwarding Email?  Something secure?  or your real direct email? Same goes for "Real Name" in your GPG key?
Jan 30 21:26:10 <Bugpowder>	I use my real name and real email for my key
Jan 30 21:26:20 <Bugpowder>	but I don't care about anonymity
Jan 30 21:26:31 <DeadWeasel>	ok, thx.  any negative side effects of that you've experienced?
Jan 30 21:26:36 <Bugpowder>	not yet
Jan 30 21:26:41 <kakobrekla>	a lot of fan mail.
Jan 30 21:26:48 <Bugpowder>	if you arent doing silk road stuff
Jan 30 21:26:49 <DeadWeasel>	hahaha
Jan 30 21:26:54 <DeadWeasel>	nope
Jan 30 21:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00731207 = 10.2369 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:27:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00734477 = 5.1413 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:27:06 <Bugpowder>	and I plan to report cap gains
Jan 30 21:27:07 <DeadWeasel>	none of that shit.  makes for poor decision making
Jan 30 21:27:13 <dub>	17 nice russian ladies and some nigerian prince showed up at his house
Jan 30 21:27:23 <Bugpowder>	when I cash out my coins
Jan 30 21:27:23 <DeadWeasel>	.well that's not a negative
Jan 30 21:27:32 <DeadWeasel>	when you cash out?
Jan 30 21:27:39 <DeadWeasel>	someone knows where they went?
Jan 30 21:27:39 <Bugpowder>	for the Tesla
Jan 30 21:27:52 <DeadWeasel>	dub, what do you do?
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Jan 30 21:28:13 <dub>	DeadWeasel: I left it anon
Jan 30 21:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00728362 = 2.9134 BTC [-]
Jan 30 21:28:38 <dub>	theres a lot of crazy motherfuckers around here
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Jan 30 21:32:14 <smickles>	02:27 < Bugpowder> and I plan to report cap gains
Jan 30 21:32:14 <smickles>	02:27 < DeadWeasel> none of that shit.  makes for poor decision making
Jan 30 21:32:16 <smickles>	lol
Jan 30 21:32:33 <Namworld>	Hmm, a bit more than 2 more weeks and S.BVPS gets delisted
Jan 30 21:33:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2644 @ 0.00734477 = 19.4196 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:33:33 <Namworld>	Any current holder happy/unhappy about being moved to BTCT.co over some other place?
Jan 30 21:35:14 <Namworld>	Seemed like the best place
Jan 30 21:35:21 <Namworld>	after MPEx
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Jan 30 21:36:57 <smickles>	heh, go to coinbr ;D
Jan 30 21:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7746 @ 0.00066678 = 5.1649 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:37:49 <Namworld>	I thought coinbr only brokers MPEx stuff =/
Jan 30 21:38:09 <smickles>	(was a joke)
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Jan 30 21:38:35 <smickles>	so if it's btct.co vs bitfunder, btctc wins for you?
Jan 30 21:39:48 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 30 21:41:03 <Namworld>	featureful and longer standing history with ltc-global
Jan 30 21:41:13 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: btc-mining is yours, right?
Jan 30 21:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16428 @ 0.00067058 = 11.0163 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:41:18 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 30 21:41:32 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: when are you going to start buying shares of it back
Jan 30 21:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00155 = 0.775 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.00159997 = 7.9999 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:42:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2500 @ 0.00159999 = 4 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:42:24 <Namworld>	Amazingrando finally contacted me and gave me his skype which I've just added.
Jan 30 21:42:30 <Namworld>	We'll see what he has to say.
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Jan 30 21:43:42 <Bowjob>	Havelock is down, but theres a nice explanation on whats going on to prevent panic
Jan 30 21:44:46 <smickles>	Namworld: do you know what the current relationship b/t amizingrando and shakaru is?
Jan 30 21:45:19 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I just want the 106 BTC back, I won't even bitch about the dividends.
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Jan 30 21:46:10 <Namworld>	but BTC-MINING had no guarantee whatsoever. and I already have 770 BTC lost in it if amazingrando doesn't pay.
Jan 30 21:46:19 <Namworld>	I have no idea of his relation with shakaru
Jan 30 21:46:39 <Namworld>	I know that Gigavps has equipment hosted at amazingrando facility tho
Jan 30 21:47:04 <Namworld>	among other place
Jan 30 21:47:15 <Namworld>	and that he might not be too out of reach
Jan 30 21:47:53 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I know it had no guarantee, but I really dont want to have to go through the ugly process of a scammer thread
Jan 30 21:48:25 <Namworld>	there's already a thread on amazingrando
Jan 30 21:48:40 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, but the buck stops with you, so you'd get one too
Jan 30 21:48:41 <Namworld>	as for me, what clause didn't I respect?
Jan 30 21:49:36 <Namworld>	eh. If amazingrando doesn't have a scammer tag yet... why would I get one? And what use would it serve?
Jan 30 21:49:53 <Diablo-D3>	thats just the way bitcoin works
Jan 30 21:50:01 <Diablo-D3>	and I think my own shareholders would demand I go through with it as well
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Jan 30 21:50:44 <Namworld>	Well if you have to. I can't pay 1600 BTC to buyback everyone.
Jan 30 21:50:53 <BUgpowder>	:(
Jan 30 21:51:24 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: no, but you could do my 106 first.
Jan 30 21:51:26 <BUgpowder>	I didn't have my S.BBET ask up
Jan 30 21:51:45 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: DMC 2.0 is the difference between BTC at $20 and BTC at $200.
Jan 30 21:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 2 @ 0.19757014 = 0.3951 BTC [+]
Jan 30 21:52:31 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: and the sooner I get all the DMC 1.0 shares bought back the sooner I can start on 2.0
Jan 30 21:52:34 <Namworld>	Not even 106 BTC. That's unfair to others. Plus if I start doing that, that could jeopardize my ability to repay people I've loaned funds from.
Jan 30 21:53:09 <Diablo-D3>	is BTC-MINING relisted anywhere?
Jan 30 21:53:17 <Namworld>	BTCT.co
Jan 30 21:53:33 <Namworld>	All I can do is see if I have any recourse should Amazingrando not pay
Jan 30 21:53:35 <Diablo-D3>	ahh, Ill have to get a btct.co account then
Jan 30 21:53:42 <Namworld>	you already should...
Jan 30 21:53:46 <BUgpowder>	WAT
Jan 30 21:53:52 <BUgpowder>	I sold my .MARs?
Jan 30 21:53:58 <BUgpowder>	shit
Jan 30 21:53:59 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: no, you never issued me my new 106 =P
Jan 30 21:55:07 <Namworld>	diablod3@gmail.com 	106
Jan 30 21:55:17 <Namworld>	according to my shareholders list on BTCT.co
Jan 30 21:55:32 <Namworld>	Everyone were sent an email from BTCT.co when I imported
Jan 30 21:55:39 <Diablo-D3>	I wasnt
Jan 30 21:55:52 <Namworld>	might have been lost to spam filters or something
Jan 30 21:55:56 <Diablo-D3>	I didnt even know you imported it yet
Jan 30 21:56:12 <Namworld>	Well try getting a password reset/reminder
Jan 30 21:56:21 <Namworld>	idk
Jan 30 21:56:28 <Namworld>	or wait
Jan 30 21:56:34 <Namworld>	I should have a list
Jan 30 21:57:30 <Namworld>	Make an account in your name
Jan 30 21:57:52 <Namworld>	not sure you can change your username
Jan 30 21:58:03 <Namworld>	but I have the random string username and password for you here
Jan 30 21:59:02 <Namworld>	I'll send an email with the details
Jan 30 21:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00734477 = 11.0172 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:00:46 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: yeah, I just created an account with my email address, and it didnt assign them to me
Jan 30 22:02:32 <Namworld>	I sent the email
Jan 30 22:02:48 <Namworld>	the shares are in an autogenerated account
Jan 30 22:02:56 <Namworld>	you can transfer the shares to your main account
Jan 30 22:03:20 <BUgpowder>	OK dudes
Jan 30 22:03:31 <BUgpowder>	Things just got REAL in the X.IDIFF.MARs
Jan 30 22:03:40 <BUgpowder>	throwing up 3000 contracts if you want to play the game
Jan 30 22:04:48 <Namworld>	there's barely more collateral over the sale price
Jan 30 22:05:02 <BUgpowder>	not really
Jan 30 22:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1922 @ 0.00067058 = 1.2889 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8147 @ 0.00067322 = 5.4847 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:05:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067327 = 6.7327 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2243 @ 0.00067437 = 1.5126 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:05:22 <BUgpowder>	avalon batch 1 takes us to 600000 minimum
Jan 30 22:05:34 <BUgpowder>	;;calc 2.9*337000
Jan 30 22:05:35 <gribble>	977300
Jan 30 22:05:52 <BUgpowder>	the first batch meets in the middle
Jan 30 22:06:02 <BUgpowder>	but yes.  I think I will profit on this
Jan 30 22:06:09 <BUgpowder>	otherwise why do it
Jan 30 22:06:35 <Namworld>	;;calc 2.9*2968775/100000000
Jan 30 22:06:36 <gribble>	0.086094475
Jan 30 22:06:50 <BUgpowder>	thats not correct
Jan 30 22:07:03 <BUgpowder>	its 2.9 * the DEC settlement
Jan 30 22:07:10 <Namworld>	isn't it 2.9 x current difficulty x number of quarters
Jan 30 22:07:13 <BUgpowder>	no
Jan 30 22:07:15 <Namworld>	oh
Jan 30 22:07:19 <Namworld>	Dec settlement
Jan 30 22:07:40 <BUgpowder>	let me check
Jan 30 22:07:41 <Namworld>	;;calc 2.9*3370000/100000000
Jan 30 22:07:42 <gribble>	0.09773
Jan 30 22:07:47 <Namworld>	Sounds about right
Jan 30 22:08:11 <BUgpowder>	yes it was 97.7 BTC per
Jan 30 22:08:12 <Namworld>	So if ASICs are indeed happening, we get about 10% on those futures
Jan 30 22:08:15 <BUgpowder>	mkfut
Jan 30 22:08:32 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: er, how do I transfer shares? I dont see it
Jan 30 22:08:57 <Namworld>	https://btct.co/portfolio
Jan 30 22:09:00 <Namworld>	at bottom
Jan 30 22:09:07 <Namworld>	dropdown to select asset
Jan 30 22:09:29 <BUgpowder>	;;calc (97.73-83.99)/97.73
Jan 30 22:09:30 <gribble>	0.140591425356
Jan 30 22:09:31 <Namworld>	+ a few fields to fill out
Jan 30 22:09:40 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: derp, thats weirdly done
Jan 30 22:12:58 <BUgpowder>	Namworld, I sent mp a note to clarify the contract. hopefully he does.  It IS difficulty at previous settlement though.
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Jan 30 22:14:04 <Namworld>	I find it straightforward
Jan 30 22:14:11 <Namworld>	well it could have its own tab
Jan 30 22:14:24 <Namworld>	but being on the portfolio page listing all you own seems fine
Jan 30 22:15:01 <BUgpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 30 22:15:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.81001, Best ask: 19.85998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 19.81001, 24 hour volume: 42984.17653777, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.86000, 24 hour vwap: 19.53423
Jan 30 22:15:07 <BUgpowder>	its going
Jan 30 22:15:38 <DeadWeasel>	;;gpg eregister DeadWeasel  6D206C24463BEC07
Jan 30 22:15:40 <gribble>	Request successful for user DeadWeasel, hostmask DeadWeasel!~DeadWease@gdrpmi.208-53-158-136.dyn.lakeshoretel.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/6D206C24463BEC07
Jan 30 22:16:04 <Bowjob>	My guess for 10 BTC prize is 21.29. I think I may be a dollar or two off. >_>
Jan 30 22:16:04 <BUgpowder>	noice
Jan 30 22:16:11 <Bowjob>	I did not see that sell off coming lol.
Jan 30 22:16:16 <BUgpowder>	what is that prize?
Jan 30 22:16:26 <Bowjob>	10BTC, guess the prize on Feb 1st
Jan 30 22:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7772 @ 0.00067437 = 5.2412 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:16:36 <BUgpowder>	heh
Jan 30 22:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067499 = 6.7499 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6105 @ 0.00067523 = 4.1223 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 423 @ 0.00067528 = 0.2856 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:16:46 <BUgpowder>	what time of day on Feb 1st?
Jan 30 22:16:59 <Bowjob>	I think at the end of Jan 31st, hold on lemme check
Jan 30 22:17:10 <kakobrekla>	url?
Jan 30 22:18:14 <BUgpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 30 22:18:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.83966, Best ask: 19.88797, Bid-ask spread: 0.04831, Last trade: 19.82625, 24 hour volume: 43152.92655341, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.88800, 24 hour vwap: 19.53602
Jan 30 22:18:25 <BUgpowder>	$24.73
Jan 30 22:18:49 <Bowjob>	bitcointalk is so slow today
Jan 30 22:19:01 <BUgpowder>	really?
Jan 30 22:19:06 <BUgpowder>	massive day for bitcoin
Jan 30 22:19:11 <DeadWeasel>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ec2c587d2c043d57dba1c8355e375f114511f59f143b1f4cb3c03268
Jan 30 22:19:13 <BUgpowder>	ASIC is real
Jan 30 22:19:14 <Bowjob>	i cant load the thread
Jan 30 22:19:16 <Bowjob>	Yeah
Jan 30 22:19:16 <gribble>	Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user DeadWeasel with key 6D206C24463BEC07
Jan 30 22:19:19 <BUgpowder>	S.DICE major losses
Jan 30 22:19:22 <BUgpowder>	double spends
Jan 30 22:19:26 <BUgpowder>	discussion
Jan 30 22:19:27 <Bowjob>	Dice is still down?
Jan 30 22:19:31 <BUgpowder>	nooo
Jan 30 22:19:33 <BUgpowder>	like
Jan 30 22:19:36 <BUgpowder>	they lost 10k
Jan 30 22:19:40 <BUgpowder>	yesterday
Jan 30 22:19:47 <BUgpowder>	still up 12k
Jan 30 22:19:54 <BUgpowder>	1.1MM bet
Jan 30 22:20:04 <Bowjob>	Oh, yeah I saw that
Jan 30 22:20:17 <DeadWeasel>	;;gpg eauth DeadWeasel
Jan 30 22:20:17 <Bowjob>	the price on mpex hasn;t gone down much
Jan 30 22:20:18 <gribble>	Request successful for user DeadWeasel, hostmask DeadWeasel!~DeadWease@gdrpmi.208-53-158-136.dyn.lakeshoretel.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/6D206C24463BEC07
Jan 30 22:20:24 <BUgpowder>	it shouldn't
Jan 30 22:20:32 <Bowjob>	try this
Jan 30 22:20:33 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138028.msg1471024#msg1471024
Jan 30 22:20:34 <BUgpowder>	1.1MM
Jan 30 22:20:37 <BUgpowder>	in bets
Jan 30 22:20:42 <Bowjob>	thats crazy
Jan 30 22:20:50 <Bowjob>	but our whale here is cheating
Jan 30 22:20:52 <Bowjob>	is he?
Jan 30 22:21:01 <fancypants>	why shouldn't the price go down?
Jan 30 22:21:08 <BUgpowder>	that should support 1100000 * .019 /100000000
Jan 30 22:21:28 <BUgpowder>	because people aren't in it for this month's dividend
Jan 30 22:21:43 <BUgpowder>	they are in it for the growth
Jan 30 22:21:47 <BUgpowder>	and the future dividends too
Jan 30 22:22:09 <BUgpowder>	variance is variance.
Jan 30 22:22:10 <Bowjob>	I felt the hit at Havelock however, most are short term traders
Jan 30 22:22:36 <fancypants>	yes but fear does play a part in decision making in cases such as this.  are you saying that the double spend problem is fixed or something?
Jan 30 22:22:38 <BUgpowder>	The dude that bought 3 million shares in one swoop is not
Jan 30 22:22:42 <Bowjob>	I mean, I really don't need the money or anything, it's fun watching your stash grow bit by bit
Jan 30 22:22:53 <BUgpowder>	What double spend problem/
Jan 30 22:22:58 <BUgpowder>	it doesn't actually exist
Jan 30 22:23:01 <BUgpowder>	the problem
Jan 30 22:23:10 <BUgpowder>	a set of transactions were double spent
Jan 30 22:23:16 <BUgpowder>	that's unrelated to the loss
Jan 30 22:23:36 <Bowjob>	here's the 10 btc guess
Jan 30 22:23:36 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138028.0
Jan 30 22:23:49 <fancypants>	thanks for the lesson
Jan 30 22:24:03 <Bowjob>	January 30, 00:00:01AM UTC.
Jan 30 22:24:33 <BUgpowder>	Nov bets = 180k, Dec bets 527k, Jan bets >1,100k so far
Jan 30 22:24:55 <Bowjob>	They approximately double
Jan 30 22:24:59 <BUgpowder>	Plus there is tons of coin flowing into MPEX and not a lot of shares to absorb it
Jan 30 22:25:00 <Bowjob>	so.. 2.4m?
Jan 30 22:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00066687 = 11.07 BTC [-]
Jan 30 22:25:32 <Bowjob>	I read that erik was gonna use 30k to promote s.dice in europe
Jan 30 22:25:41 <Bowjob>	we should feel the effects of that
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Jan 30 22:26:23 <BUgpowder>	Bowjob, if the betting goes at the pace of the last 10 days, you are looking at 3MM in bets /mo
Jan 30 22:26:37 <BUgpowder>	shit
Jan 30 22:26:49 <BUgpowder>	I am convincing myself to buy more right now.
Jan 30 22:27:08 <Bowjob>	the question ive been wondering.. iss.. is it sustainable?
Jan 30 22:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6698 @ 0.00734477 = 49.1953 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:27:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.0073477 = 10.2868 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8305 @ 0.00735 = 61.0418 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:28:04 <Bowjob>	Also, I feel bad at selling for shares at 0.0048, almost half of my holdings got sold
Jan 30 22:28:08 <Bowjob>	>_>
Jan 30 22:28:16 <BUgpowder>	I had 400,000 shares at one point
Jan 30 22:28:22 <BUgpowder>	but I sold a lot
Jan 30 22:28:47 <Bowjob>	you stand a lot to gain in this venture
Jan 30 22:28:48 <BUgpowder>	also I had a fat finger at .006 and sold off 100k
Jan 30 22:28:52 <BUgpowder>	naw
Jan 30 22:28:57 <BUgpowder>	I don't have that much anymore
Jan 30 22:29:05 <BUgpowder>	sold all the way up
Jan 30 22:29:10 <leotreasure>	working asic - http://bitcoinmagazine.com/working-avalon-asic-confirmed/
Jan 30 22:29:16 <BUgpowder>	yeah
Jan 30 22:29:17 <Bowjob>	that fat finger mistake.. yikes
Jan 30 22:29:26 <BUgpowder>	luckly there was lots of bids at the time
Jan 30 22:29:34 <BUgpowder>	so I only lost about 40BTC
Jan 30 22:29:39 <BUgpowder>	for selling under market
Jan 30 22:29:49 <BUgpowder>	but there were not enough asks to buy it all back
Jan 30 22:30:10 <BUgpowder>	anyway
Jan 30 22:30:16 <BUgpowder>	I think S.DICE is going to .00999
Jan 30 22:30:22 <BUgpowder>	within a week
Jan 30 22:30:24 <BUgpowder>	but
Jan 30 22:30:28 <BUgpowder>	that is just my opinion
Jan 30 22:30:51 <Bowjob>	There was this dude who lost about 70 grand at 0.0008
Jan 30 22:30:59 <BUgpowder>	yes
Jan 30 22:31:11 <BUgpowder>	check out the mtgox bot war right now
Jan 30 22:31:28 <Bowjob>	i think we'll hit 20.
Jan 30 22:31:47 <BUgpowder>	buy 5 @ 19.88 sell 0.01 * 19.81, every 10 seconds
Jan 30 22:32:00 <BUgpowder>	Bowjob, if we hit 20, get ready for 30
Jan 30 22:32:06 <Bowjob>	Everytime there's a rally, I contemplate buying more coins
Jan 30 22:32:08 <BUgpowder>	that is the last resistance
Jan 30 22:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00735 = 14.7 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:32:20 <Bowjob>	But my internal valuation is set at 1 BTC = 13 dollars
Jan 30 22:32:33 <BUgpowder>	mine is set to 1BTC = $5
Jan 30 22:32:39 <BUgpowder>	but the utility value is going up
Jan 30 22:32:52 <Bowjob>	>_> since thats how much I got them for. Umm..  So if I buy 100 BTC for 2k, idk lol
Jan 30 22:32:55 <BUgpowder>	the poker forums are having huge arguments over bitcoin
Jan 30 22:33:06 <BUgpowder>	I bought in $2k @ 2.65
Jan 30 22:33:22 <fancypants>	nice
Jan 30 22:33:33 <BUgpowder>	then cashed my friends out $1000 @ $13.
Jan 30 22:33:34 <Bowjob>	I saw the bitcoin crash from 31 to ~2.. and that's after I told my boss about bitcoins
Jan 30 22:33:36 <BUgpowder>	was gonna sell it
Jan 30 22:33:47 <BUgpowder>	and withdraw
Jan 30 22:33:53 <BUgpowder>	but had a revelation
Jan 30 22:34:03 <BUgpowder>	and decided to rebuy at $11
Jan 30 22:34:06 <Bowjob>	it didn't feel good to tell someone about the power of bitcoins only to have it crash the next week.
Jan 30 22:34:09 <BUgpowder>	then MPEX happpened
Jan 30 22:34:17 <BUgpowder>	I got my friends in on it
Jan 30 22:34:24 <BUgpowder>	and it has just been up up up for them
Jan 30 22:34:45 <BUgpowder>	they put in $500, played some seals poker and price rise and are up to $10k
Jan 30 22:35:23 <BUgpowder>	gawd I have so many calls right now
Jan 30 22:35:32 <fancypants>	some of that seals money used to be mine.
Jan 30 22:35:35 <BUgpowder>	fucking ralllllly
Jan 30 22:35:43 <BUgpowder>	you play as fancypants there?
Jan 30 22:35:55 <fancypants>	no that would be illegal
Jan 30 22:35:58 <Bowjob>	Oh man that avalon.. mhm
Jan 30 22:36:00 <BUgpowder>	my buddy whas playing there alont
Jan 30 22:36:02 <BUgpowder>	alot
Jan 30 22:36:09 <BUgpowder>	but found out who actually runs it
Jan 30 22:36:16 <BUgpowder>	and won't play anymore
Jan 30 22:36:25 <kakobrekla>	lol
Jan 30 22:36:55 <fancypants>	I don't know the story I guess
Jan 30 22:36:59 <BUgpowder>	some sketchy history from back in poker history
Jan 30 22:37:03 <BUgpowder>	I don't know either
Jan 30 22:37:19 <kakobrekla>	some douchebag runs it
Jan 30 22:37:20 <BUgpowder>	but this guy knows his poker shit
Jan 30 22:37:27 <Bowjob>	I'm contemplating getting an Avalon.. batch #2. anyone else?
Jan 30 22:37:28 <BUgpowder>	my friend
Jan 30 22:37:33 <BUgpowder>	I contemplated
Jan 30 22:37:38 <BUgpowder>	then decided against it
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Jan 30 22:37:42 <Bowjob>	reasons?
Jan 30 22:38:03 <BUgpowder>	I don't want to have to do physical effor to make coins
Jan 30 22:38:07 <Bowjob>	I mean, 1.5k is pocket change compared to the potential rewards
Jan 30 22:38:16 <BUgpowder>	and think I can get a better ROI on MPEX
Jan 30 22:38:23 <BUgpowder>	marketmaking options and futures
Jan 30 22:38:29 <BUgpowder>	BUT
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Jan 30 22:38:39 <BUgpowder>	Avalon seems reasonable choice
Jan 30 22:38:53 <BUgpowder>	IF they really can deliver 100s of units fast
Jan 30 22:39:01 *	kakobrekla is now known as Guest85988
Jan 30 22:39:25 <BUgpowder>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 22:39:27 <gribble>	There are currently 10528.737 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 210218.542298 USD in total.
Jan 30 22:39:28 <BUgpowder>	;;asks 30
Jan 30 22:39:29 <fancypants>	I'm starting to smell crazy on you bugpowder
Jan 30 22:39:30 <Bowjob>	I'll buy one for 5k right now, delivered to my door tomorrow
Jan 30 22:39:30 <gribble>	There are currently 34294.479 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 784906.016079 USD in total.
Jan 30 22:39:31 <fancypants>	r
Jan 30 22:40:49 <BUgpowder>	fancypants... this made me crazy
Jan 30 22:40:49 <BUgpowder>	http://imgur.com/a/EsExY
Jan 30 22:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6849999 = 2.74 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:41:20 <BUgpowder>	WAT
Jan 30 22:41:22 <BUgpowder>	.684?
Jan 30 22:41:50 <Namworld>	these are x100
Jan 30 22:41:55 <Namworld>	S.DICE
Jan 30 22:42:02 <Bowjob>	well, havelock used to be 0.8
Jan 30 22:42:04 <Bowjob>	>_>
Jan 30 22:42:09 <BUgpowder>	yeah
Jan 30 22:42:15 <BUgpowder>	seems underpriced
Jan 30 22:42:21 <BUgpowder>	but actually
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Jan 30 22:42:31 <BUgpowder>	;;calc .00735*95
Jan 30 22:42:32 <gribble>	0.69825
Jan 30 22:42:36 <BUgpowder>	nah
Jan 30 22:42:38 <BUgpowder>	its ok
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Jan 30 22:43:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6849999 = 2.74 BTC [+]
Jan 30 22:43:10 <Bowjob>	Figured, if we didn't lose that 10k, dice woulda reached .9 on havelock
Jan 30 22:43:17 <BUgpowder>	yah
Jan 30 22:43:21 <BUgpowder>	well
Jan 30 22:43:32 <BUgpowder>	how is S.DICE doing since the last update?
Jan 30 22:44:13 <error4733>	good ;)
Jan 30 22:44:40 <error4733>	if you look the last 3 days
Jan 30 22:44:49 <Bowjob>	lol
Jan 30 22:45:11 <error4733>	+1800
Jan 30 22:45:13 <Bowjob>	http://btccharts.com/screenshots/1359602502823.png
Jan 30 22:45:23 <Bowjob>	It's all gravy once we hit 20.50
Jan 30 22:45:26 <Bowjob>	i mean 20
Jan 30 22:45:40 <kakobreklaa>	walls. move.
Jan 30 22:47:13 <BUgpowder>	error4733 up 2000 since the last doog update
Jan 30 22:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00066687 = 2.4674 BTC [-]
Jan 30 22:47:40 <BUgpowder>	It's some game of thrones shit right here
Jan 30 22:47:46 <error4733>	i got 1789
Jan 30 22:47:53 <BUgpowder>	whats on the other side of the wall
Jan 30 22:48:01 <error4733>	but depend witch last input
Jan 30 22:48:01 <BUgpowder>	are you doing over 5 or over 10?
Jan 30 22:48:06 <error4733>	60 :D
Jan 30 22:48:15 <error4733>	fucus on large bet
Jan 30 22:48:21 <BUgpowder>	last input is block 218786
Jan 30 22:48:28 <BUgpowder>	Yeah there are a lot of bets at 10 though
Jan 30 22:48:40 <BUgpowder>	I get +2000 since last
Jan 30 22:48:57 <error4733>	good
Jan 30 22:49:11 <BUgpowder>	which brings us up to 12500
Jan 30 22:49:23 <BUgpowder>	with a day left
Jan 30 22:49:31 <Bowjob>	up to 12500
Jan 30 22:49:41 <Bowjob>	with profits, since the 1st of the month riht?
Jan 30 22:49:54 <error4733>	question : when they stop the month ? US time or EU ?
Jan 30 22:49:55 <BUgpowder>	yes
Jan 30 22:50:02 <BUgpowder>	total is 45600
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Jan 30 22:50:18 <BUgpowder>	I dunno
Jan 30 22:50:22 <BUgpowder>	UTC would make sense
Jan 30 22:50:32 <BUgpowder>	yah UTC
Jan 30 22:50:38 <BUgpowder>	based on the timestaps
Jan 30 22:50:43 <BUgpowder>	so 20 hours left
Jan 30 22:51:04 <BUgpowder>	12500/.00735/100000000
Jan 30 22:51:20 <BUgpowder>	;;calc 12500/.00735/100000000
Jan 30 22:51:20 <gribble>	0.0170068027211
Jan 30 22:53:02 <error4733>	why do you make the next calcul on your phone ?
Jan 30 22:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9304 @ 0.00066687 = 6.2046 BTC [-]
Jan 30 22:53:33 <error4733>	:)
Jan 30 22:53:38 <BUgpowder>	raptop
Jan 30 22:54:33 <BUgpowder>	New whale
Jan 30 22:54:36 <BUgpowder>	Glados
Jan 30 22:54:37 <BUgpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/1GLadosEkeAsLReqS3yQ51E1R3wVtbJCDF
Jan 30 22:54:40 <BUgpowder>	!!
Jan 30 22:55:40 <BUgpowder>	actually this IS a new whale address
Jan 30 22:55:40 <BUgpowder>	1A3z7M6GhpUejQ5eqgSyjVWRuezeepdKKV
Jan 30 22:56:19 <Bowjob>	Glados? isn't that tradefortress
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Jan 30 22:57:03 <thestringpuller>	BUgpowder: only 1,516.22480501 btcs
Jan 30 22:57:11 <BUgpowder>	only
Jan 30 22:57:41 <BUgpowder>	i would vomit it I was betting 1500 BTC on S.DICE
Jan 30 22:57:45 <BUgpowder>	if
Jan 30 22:58:11 <kakobreklaa>	youd vomit only when youd lose
Jan 30 22:58:22 <BUgpowder>	also in the interim
Jan 30 22:58:41 <BUgpowder>	seriously
Jan 30 22:58:47 <BUgpowder>	please rally to 32
Jan 30 22:58:55 <BUgpowder>	pause for 24 hours
Jan 30 22:58:56 <kakobreklaa>	whats the rush
Jan 30 22:58:57 <BUgpowder>	then crash
Jan 30 22:59:17 <BUgpowder>	Time decay value of these calls
Jan 30 22:59:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00066603 = 6.9267 BTC [-]
Jan 30 22:59:33 <kakobreklaa>	ah right your calls
Jan 30 22:59:38 <kakobreklaa>	heh
Jan 30 22:59:48 <BUgpowder>	I want to sell to the bot when the bot is paying 2.5 over strike
Jan 30 23:00:09 <BUgpowder>	I took my bot offline
Jan 30 23:00:20 <BUgpowder>	It sold 1000 calls to itself
Jan 30 23:00:23 <BUgpowder>	oops
Jan 30 23:00:30 <BUgpowder>	lucky I had the high bid
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Jan 30 23:04:07 <BUgpowder>	here we go
Jan 30 23:04:11 <BUgpowder>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 23:04:13 <gribble>	There are currently 10229.329 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 204263.16123 USD in total.
Jan 30 23:04:17 <BUgpowder>	;;bids 19
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Jan 30 23:04:20 <gribble>	There are currently 10114.343 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 194843.872361 USD in total.
Jan 30 23:06:33 <BUgpowder>	crossover
Jan 30 23:07:08 <Bowjob>	im wondering why are people calling avalon scam when they've shipped?
Jan 30 23:07:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00066176 = 2.4485 BTC [-]
Jan 30 23:07:26 <dub>	because bitcoin
Jan 30 23:07:32 <dub>	everything is a scam always
Jan 30 23:07:42 <error4734>	because it's just a box with fan
Jan 30 23:07:55 <BUgpowder>	because it sure looks like a scam
Jan 30 23:08:12 <BUgpowder>	except that one detail where the 1 box they shipped actually works
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Jan 30 23:08:19 <BUgpowder>	which has me confused
Jan 30 23:08:19 <dub>	I don't think anything about it look slike a scam
Jan 30 23:08:48 <BUgpowder>	the pay for the second batch before the 1st batch is in the wild is total scammyness
Jan 30 23:08:53 <BUgpowder>	but now
Jan 30 23:08:56 <BUgpowder>	I think its real
Jan 30 23:09:09 <BUgpowder>	the chips MUST exist
Jan 30 23:09:12 <Bowjob>	I'd buy a second one right now.. but I want "regular" people
Jan 30 23:09:17 <Bowjob>	reviewing i
Jan 30 23:09:18 <Bowjob>	t
Jan 30 23:09:20 <BUgpowder>	the only thing they can fuck up now is assembly
Jan 30 23:09:24 <BUgpowder>	or just stealing
Jan 30 23:09:36 <Bowjob>	not just some souped up version that that dude got
Jan 30 23:09:39 <dub>	its china there hundreds of ways it can fuck up at any time
Jan 30 23:09:46 <BUgpowder>	ya
Jan 30 23:09:50 <BUgpowder>	true dat
Jan 30 23:10:02 <BUgpowder>	bad plaster in the walls
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Jan 30 23:14:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00066176 = 0.411 BTC [-]
Jan 30 23:14:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2971 @ 0.00066163 = 1.9657 BTC [-]
Jan 30 23:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3758 @ 0.00065749 = 2.4708 BTC [-]
Jan 30 23:14:16 <Namworld>	yeah, they replaced the plaster for cheaper explosives. Walls randomly go "boom".
Jan 30 23:14:30 <Namworld>	Avalon could disappear by tomorrow
Jan 30 23:15:05 <error4734>	same as MPEX
Jan 30 23:15:16 <error4734>	or SDICE
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Jan 30 23:16:25 <BUgpowder>	MPEX and SDICE have more history
Jan 30 23:16:30 <Namworld>	there's no explosive walls in Romania
Jan 30 23:16:35 <BUgpowder>	MPEX is safe
Jan 30 23:16:36 <error4734>	5 month...
Jan 30 23:16:40 <BUgpowder>	SDICE
Jan 30 23:16:45 <BUgpowder>	has regualtory issues
Jan 30 23:16:51 <dub>	neither are safe
Jan 30 23:16:53 <error4734>	is not a history for me
Jan 30 23:17:12 <BUgpowder>	MPEX is relatively safe
Jan 30 23:17:15 <BUgpowder>	not safe
Jan 30 23:17:27 <dub>	relative to dice and china yeah
Jan 30 23:17:38 <error4734>	what do you mean by "has regualtory issues"
Jan 30 23:17:53 <dub>	its probably illegal in the US
Jan 30 23:18:04 <Bowjob>	dice is a bit of grey area, but US is slow to react
Jan 30 23:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00730434 = 5.113 BTC [-]
Jan 30 23:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 711 @ 0.00735 = 5.2259 BTC [+]
Jan 30 23:18:23 <Bowjob>	i doubt bitcoin is on their shitlist, they have to worry about the financial meltdown
Jan 30 23:18:26 <dub>	thne mpex is probably illegal too
Jan 30 23:18:27 <BUgpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 30 23:18:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.86001, Best ask: 19.88999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last trade: 19.86001, 24 hour volume: 43350.81430079, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.89000, 24 hour vwap: 19.56509
Jan 30 23:18:38 <BUgpowder>	yeah but MPEX is not getting shut down
Jan 30 23:18:55 <dub>	why not?
Jan 30 23:18:58 <BUgpowder>	Romania aint gonna move
Jan 30 23:19:01 <BUgpowder>	against it
Jan 30 23:19:05 <BUgpowder>	don't you think?
Jan 30 23:19:14 <BUgpowder>	This isn't the UK
Jan 30 23:19:35 <dub>	idk, nothign would surprise me about the USGs reach
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Jan 30 23:20:22 <error4734>	ok but first layer at his door...  he coul'd run :)
Jan 30 23:20:54 <dub>	enemy of the state style, jumping over rooftops with black helicopters chasing
Jan 30 23:21:02 <error4734>	*lawyer
Jan 30 23:21:06 <dub>	MP and his naked harem
Jan 30 23:21:14 <Bowjob>	I bet US would check up on the FAQ, take a look at the cherry truck, then leave
Jan 30 23:21:21 <error4734>	hahaha
Jan 30 23:21:24 <error4734>	true
Jan 30 23:21:30 <error4734>	it's a dog
Jan 30 23:21:31 <BUgpowder>	Eastern Europe
Jan 30 23:21:42 <Bowjob>	thats actually a smart idea.. to put the firs faq
Jan 30 23:21:45 <Bowjob>	yes this is dog
Jan 30 23:21:45 <Bowjob>	lol
Jan 30 23:21:48 <BUgpowder>	not known forDOJ intervention
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Jan 30 23:22:02 <dub>	BUgpowder: DOJ is not the only tool in the bag
Jan 30 23:22:14 <BUgpowder>	ya ya
Jan 30 23:22:17 <BUgpowder>	wow
Jan 30 23:22:20 <BUgpowder>	MEGA is FAST
Jan 30 23:22:35 <error4734>	fast like ?
Jan 30 23:22:41 <Bowjob>	mhm, batch reduced to 500
Jan 30 23:22:46 <Bowjob>	I think I might buy one.. idk
Jan 30 23:22:53 <Bowjob>	I'm so conflicted right now.
Jan 30 23:24:07 <error4734>	wait
Jan 30 23:24:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066581 = 2.877 BTC [+]
Jan 30 23:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2096 @ 0.00066603 = 1.396 BTC [+]
Jan 30 23:24:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5540 @ 0.00066933 = 3.7081 BTC [+]
Jan 30 23:24:15 <error4734>	just 1 week
Jan 30 23:24:33 <BUgpowder>	wait 24 hours and its sold out dude
Jan 30 23:24:36 <BUgpowder>	fo sho
Jan 30 23:24:38 <dub>	^
Jan 30 23:24:39 <Bowjob>	yeah
Jan 30 23:24:47 <Bowjob>	so, 1.5 is about 80 btc?
Jan 30 23:24:52 <BUgpowder>	70
Jan 30 23:24:59 <Bowjob>	even better
Jan 30 23:25:00 <BUgpowder>	75
Jan 30 23:25:09 <BUgpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 30 23:25:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.86001, Best ask: 19.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 19.86001, 24 hour volume: 44046.86745366, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.90000, 24 hour vwap: 19.57366
Jan 30 23:25:13 <BUgpowder>	here we go
Jan 30 23:25:29 <BUgpowder>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 23:25:31 <BUgpowder>	;;bids 19
Jan 30 23:25:32 <gribble>	There are currently 9804.9297 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 195820.20848 USD in total.
Jan 30 23:25:33 <gribble>	There are currently 10327.97 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 198677.379401 USD in total.
Jan 30 23:25:57 <BUgpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 30 23:25:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.86001, Best ask: 19.88799, Bid-ask spread: 0.02798, Last trade: 19.86001, 24 hour volume: 44395.78025366, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.91000, 24 hour vwap: 19.57625
Jan 30 23:26:15 <BUgpowder>	oh this is so sweet
Jan 30 23:26:19 <BUgpowder>	200BTC / dollar
Jan 30 23:26:23 <dub>	have BFL said how many units they will ship initially?
Jan 30 23:26:33 <BUgpowder>	who the fuck knows
Jan 30 23:26:34 <error4734>	over 9000
Jan 30 23:26:49 <BUgpowder>	they are not getting out of bumping without trouble
Jan 30 23:26:56 <BUgpowder>	2 days to bump the chips
Jan 30 23:26:58 <BUgpowder>	fuck no
Jan 30 23:27:17 <Bowjob>	I thought BFL was a scam lol
Jan 30 23:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00736235 = 2.864 BTC [+]
Jan 30 23:27:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00726 = 1.452 BTC [-]
Jan 30 23:27:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 411 @ 0.00725328 = 2.9811 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 23:30:35 <dub>	I guess it doesnt look too bad, if avalon have shipped 800 units and diff triples its still on 10 days to pay back
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Jan 30 23:31:20 <kakobreklaa>	eh?
Jan 30 23:31:42 <dub>	thats liek 52TH?
Jan 30 23:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 225 @ 0.00725328 = 1.632 BTC [-]
Jan 30 23:32:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 75 @ 0.007249 = 0.5437 BTC [-]
Jan 30 23:32:29 <dub>	assuming nobody else ships for a few weeks you're good
Jan 30 23:32:47 <dub>	oh wait, derp
Jan 30 23:32:53 <Bowjob>	bfl doesn't seem like they'll ship
Jan 30 23:32:54 <Bowjob>	ever lol
Jan 30 23:33:02 <dub>	~23days
Jan 30 23:33:09 <Bowjob>	for bfl?
Jan 30 23:33:19 <dub>	with the rest of the gpus wiped out diff could be lower
Jan 30 23:33:49 <Bowjob>	now wouldnt those gpus switch to litecoin then?
Jan 30 23:34:08 <BUgpowder>	well
Jan 30 23:34:12 <BUgpowder>	Good night fellas
Jan 30 23:34:15 <dub>	dunno, is it worht something? maybe I should turn mine back on :/
Jan 30 23:34:32 <BUgpowder>	I hope to wake up to the sound of my phone buzzing for a over 20 alert within the next few hours
Jan 30 23:34:43 <Bowjob>	omg lol]
Jan 30 23:35:16 <dub>	kakobreklaa: is my maff broken?
Jan 30 23:36:36 <kakobreklaa>	yeah but 800 units?
Jan 30 23:36:41 <kakobreklaa>	thats far away
Jan 30 23:37:04 <kakobreklaa>	also it seems its 1.5k
Jan 30 23:37:05 <kakobreklaa>	usd
Jan 30 23:37:49 <dub>	Bowjob just said the next batch is 500 units now, 300 have shipped in the first
Jan 30 23:38:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066004 = 2.852 BTC [-]
Jan 30 23:38:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15356 @ 0.00065997 = 10.1345 BTC [-]
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Jan 30 23:38:08 <kakobreklaa>	which is 2 months away
Jan 30 23:38:10 <Bowjob>	Yeah, they reduced it by 100 units
Jan 30 23:38:12 <kakobreklaa>	at least
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Jan 30 23:39:02 <dub>	yeah but if noone else ships asic in that time its still 800 when you get your hands on one
Jan 30 23:39:16 <Bowjob>	http://launch.avalon-asics.com/#home
Jan 30 23:39:21 <Bowjob>	yes, it's 500
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Jan 30 23:39:36 <Bowjob>	I can buy it right now, I'm so indecisive. :(
Jan 30 23:39:53 <kakobreklaa>	i think we will see a few more suprises down the road
Jan 30 23:40:02 <Bowjob>	like?
Jan 30 23:40:05 <dub>	you could work out worst case if you read teh forums and figure out how much bfl/asicminer/et al have on order
Jan 30 23:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000669 = 2.8907 BTC [+]
Jan 30 23:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11940 @ 0.00066933 = 7.9918 BTC [+]
Jan 30 23:40:39 <dub>	if errybody ships you gonna lose
Jan 30 23:41:03 <dub>	like kakobreklaa and his secret asic sauce
Jan 30 23:41:17 <kakobreklaa>	two.
Jan 30 23:41:20 <kakobreklaa>	:>
Jan 30 23:41:32 *	dub is quietly hoping bfl and asicminer get thier fuckign shit together please
Jan 30 23:43:10 <Bowjob>	why cant we just all get rich off of an asic without competing >_>
Jan 30 23:43:15 <Bowjob>	lol
Jan 30 23:43:38 <Bowjob>	it seems like, it's either i win and they lose or they win and i lose
Jan 30 23:47:17 <BUgpowder>	satoshi was wise
Jan 30 23:48:18 <BUgpowder>	;;asks 20
Jan 30 23:48:20 <gribble>	There are currently 8623.6104 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 172323.854307 USD in total.
Jan 30 23:48:22 <Bowjob>	I wonder if satoshi is rich now
Jan 30 23:48:23 <BUgpowder>	;;bids 19
Jan 30 23:48:25 <gribble>	There are currently 10982.251 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 211526.891727 USD in total.
Jan 30 23:48:49 <BUgpowder>	4 hours left
Jan 30 23:48:58 <BUgpowder>	before $20.01
Jan 30 23:50:07 <Bowjob>	bug i thought you were sleeping
Jan 30 23:50:23 <BUgpowder>	I am trying
Jan 30 23:50:43 <Bowjob>	anyone here play street fighter iv ae on pc?
Jan 30 23:50:58 <BUgpowder>	fucking gathering horder
Jan 30 23:51:00 <BUgpowder>	horde
Jan 30 23:51:01 <BUgpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Jan 30 23:51:27 <Bowjob>	huh?
Jan 30 23:52:40 <BUgpowder>	The 1 day looks so strong
Jan 30 23:52:40 <BUgpowder>	http://imgur.com/a/EsExY#frK3xdH
Jan 30 23:53:43 <BUgpowder>	19.92
Jan 30 23:54:49 <Bowjob>	methinks it will go up some more
Jan 30 23:55:05 <BUgpowder>	it might stall at 20
Jan 30 23:55:08 <Bowjob>	people will want btc for 500 avalons
Jan 30 23:55:09 <BUgpowder>	and crash
Jan 30 23:55:11 <BUgpowder>	but
Jan 30 23:55:22 <BUgpowder>	My money is on 25+
Jan 30 23:56:31 <BUgpowder>	19.93
Jan 30 23:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.000661 = 14.2115 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 00:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00066295 = 2.5192 BTC [+]
Jan 31 00:02:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065999 = 2.8518 BTC [-]
Jan 31 00:02:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2141 @ 0.00065997 = 1.413 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 00:07:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066917 = 2.8915 BTC [+]
Jan 31 00:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.00066933 = 3.8681 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 00:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00739499 = 2.2185 BTC [+]
Jan 31 00:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00739499 = 2.2185 BTC [+]
Jan 31 00:15:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2091 @ 0.00066933 = 1.3996 BTC [+]
Jan 31 00:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1809 @ 0.00067172 = 1.2151 BTC [+]
Jan 31 00:26:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066024 = 2.8529 BTC [-]
Jan 31 00:26:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3179 @ 0.00065997 = 2.098 BTC [-]
Jan 31 00:26:59 <error4734>	http://i.imgur.com/lj848WV.png
Jan 31 00:27:44 <error4734>	what do you read ?
Jan 31 00:30:57 <fancypants>	triple bottom
Jan 31 00:33:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15185 @ 0.00065997 = 10.0216 BTC [-]
Jan 31 00:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067157 = 2.9019 BTC [+]
Jan 31 00:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11979 @ 0.00067172 = 8.0465 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 00:45:05 <fancypants>	;;asks 20
Jan 31 00:45:07 <gribble>	There are currently 7906.7142 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 158037.520635 USD in total.
Jan 31 00:46:07 <fancypants>	help
Jan 31 00:46:11 <fancypants>	\help
Jan 31 00:46:19 <error4734>	!help
Jan 31 00:46:20 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 31 00:46:21 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 31 00:46:42 <fancypants>	thx
Jan 31 00:47:30 <fancypants>	!ticker MPEX S.DICE
Jan 31 00:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.007249 / 0.00733479 / 0.00739499 (48621 shares, 356.63 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00552204 / 0.0075 (1111939 shares, 6,140.17 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00473313 / 0.0075 (6563515 shares, 31,066.01 BTC)
Jan 31 00:48:32 <Diablo-D3>	scam alert: http://btchyip.com/
Jan 31 00:48:47 <Diablo-D3>	paying users to drive by spam people
Jan 31 00:48:58 <fancypants>	!ticker MPEX S.BBET
Jan 31 00:48:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00155 / 0.00159685 / 0.00159999 (8000 shares, 12.77 BTC), 7D: 0.0010499 / 0.00128049 / 0.00159999 (70880 shares, 90.76 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00079931 / 0.0035 (2339563 shares, 1,870.04 BTC)
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Jan 31 00:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006602 = 2.8527 BTC [-]
Jan 31 00:54:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5307 @ 0.00065997 = 3.5025 BTC [-]
Jan 31 00:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6772 @ 0.00065861 = 4.4601 BTC [-]
Jan 31 00:59:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.007249 = 10.1486 BTC [-]
Jan 31 01:05:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00067082 = 4.4274 BTC [+]
Jan 31 01:14:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067141 = 2.9012 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 01:14:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2412 @ 0.00067172 = 1.6202 BTC [+]
Jan 31 01:14:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00067225 = 5.983 BTC [+]
Jan 31 01:14:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6859 @ 0.00067504 = 4.6301 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 01:24:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067106 = 2.8997 BTC [-]
Jan 31 01:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00067082 = 4.5616 BTC [-]
Jan 31 01:24:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8241 @ 0.00066159 = 5.4522 BTC [-]
Jan 31 01:24:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2928 @ 0.00065861 = 1.9284 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 01:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065778 = 2.8423 BTC [-]
Jan 31 01:37:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11683 @ 0.0006575 = 7.6816 BTC [-]
Jan 31 01:41:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065814 = 2.8438 BTC [+]
Jan 31 01:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 792 @ 0.00065816 = 0.5213 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 01:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 2 @ 0.22169621 = 0.4434 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 01:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7587 @ 0.00066432 = 5.0402 BTC [+]
Jan 31 01:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9080 @ 0.0006575 = 5.9701 BTC [-]
Jan 31 01:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8742 @ 0.00065749 = 5.7478 BTC [-]
Jan 31 01:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38491 @ 0.00065564 = 25.2362 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 01:57:25 <error4734>	+5K for S.DICE this night
Jan 31 01:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 31 01:57:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.007249 / 0.00733239 / 0.00739499 (50021 shares, 366.77 BTC), 7D: 0.00598118 / 0.00715475 / 0.0075 (593129 shares, 4,243.69 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00473414 / 0.0075 (6562260 shares, 31,066.70 BTC)
Jan 31 01:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	error4734 how much is it ahead by now ?
Jan 31 01:58:25 <error4734>	all month ?
Jan 31 02:00:42 <error4734>	16K
Jan 31 02:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	not so bad
Jan 31 02:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 225 @ 0.007249 = 1.631 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:01:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 975 @ 0.00720955 = 7.0293 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:02:14 <error4734>	yeep
Jan 31 02:03:21 <error4734>	60btc last month for hosting/tech expenses
Jan 31 02:03:35 <error4734>	it's insane
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Jan 31 02:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11161 @ 0.00066954 = 7.4727 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10379 @ 0.00067194 = 6.9741 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00067282 = 7.401 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	not that insane
Jan 31 02:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	originally oil cost something in the neighbourhood of nothing to extract.
Jan 31 02:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6795 @ 0.00067387 = 4.5789 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:19:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065744 = 2.8408 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:19:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11087 @ 0.00065723 = 7.2867 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 02:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20474 @ 0.00065723 = 13.4561 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:34:55 <Bowjob>	oh man, just reach 20 dollar!!
Jan 31 02:35:03 <Bowjob>	wait false alarm
Jan 31 02:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 31 02:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 31 02:36:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.86000, Best ask: 19.86998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00998, Last trade: 19.86998, 24 hour volume: 44185.78098282, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.95000, 24 hour vwap: 19.61874
Jan 31 02:37:25 <Bowjob>	I saw 19.96 flash
Jan 31 02:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	will take a little more fightin, that hilltop
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Jan 31 02:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066046 = 2.8538 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:40:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17579 @ 0.00066064 = 11.6134 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065754 = 2.8412 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6839 @ 0.00065723 = 4.4948 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8540 @ 0.00065564 = 5.5992 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1502 @ 0.00721632 = 10.8389 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:41:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 125 @ 0.00720955 = 0.9012 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1624 @ 0.0071864 = 11.6707 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00718003 = 5.026 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00715088 = 7.866 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4111 @ 0.007141 = 29.3567 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00711538 = 5.6923 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00708676 = 1.4174 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00705654 = 7.0565 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00704966 = 5.6397 BTC [-]
Jan 31 02:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066059 = 2.8544 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2126 @ 0.00066064 = 1.4045 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00066705 = 12.207 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:49:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006748 = 2.9158 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8452 @ 0.00067504 = 5.7054 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:49:29 <Bowjob>	;; ticker
Jan 31 02:49:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.86000, Best ask: 19.89599, Bid-ask spread: 0.03599, Last trade: 19.86000, 24 hour volume: 44661.58410082, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.95000, 24 hour vwap: 19.62249
Jan 31 02:50:41 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Jan 31 02:50:42 <assbot>	I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
Jan 31 02:50:46 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Jan 31 02:50:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.86000, Best ask: 19.89599, Bid-ask spread: 0.03599, Last trade: 19.86000, 24 hour volume: 44780.72310082, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.95000, 24 hour vwap: 19.62312
Jan 31 02:50:58 <Diablo-D3>	COME ON MOVE IT
Jan 31 02:51:04 <Bowjob>	Mhm @ssbot talks?
Jan 31 02:51:56 <dub>	!assbot talk
Jan 31 02:57:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/wZ1hZlM.jpg
Jan 31 02:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool lookin
Jan 31 02:57:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00067504 = 4.8603 BTC [+]
Jan 31 02:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how much cheaper the huge aluminum box was than a normal closer fitting one
Jan 31 02:58:48 <Bowjob>	ah.. the money printing machine
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Jan 31 03:01:38 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Jan 31 03:01:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.90011, Best ask: 19.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04989, Last trade: 19.90000, 24 hour volume: 45453.09821842, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.95000, 24 hour vwap: 19.62967
Jan 31 03:01:53 <Bowjob>	10 more cents~!
Jan 31 03:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	"i am short 20 Bitcoins to buy one of the second batch. Okay. I could go satoshidice: either i have enough or nothing"
Jan 31 03:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	whales explained.
Jan 31 03:02:46 <Bowjob>	I imagine my bitcoins fighting a war right now. They need to take prisoners in order to become stronger
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Jan 31 03:03:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1020 @ 0.00067504 = 0.6885 BTC [+]
Jan 31 03:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15330 @ 0.00067528 = 10.352 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 03:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066785 = 2.8858 BTC [-]
Jan 31 03:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5229 @ 0.00066754 = 3.4906 BTC [-]
Jan 31 03:13:23 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Jan 31 03:13:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.91010, Best ask: 19.91898, Bid-ask spread: 0.00888, Last trade: 19.90011, 24 hour volume: 45077.52674878, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.95000, 24 hour vwap: 19.63169
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Jan 31 03:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8754 @ 0.00066754 = 5.8436 BTC [-]
Jan 31 03:27:22 <Bowjob>	19.97 high price now
Jan 31 03:27:42 <Bowjob>	;; ticker
Jan 31 03:27:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.90021, Best ask: 19.96799, Bid-ask spread: 0.06778, Last trade: 19.90021, 24 hour volume: 46055.45217062, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 19.97000, 24 hour vwap: 19.64007
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Jan 31 03:33:42 <dust-otc>	my widget said 20.0 due to rounding and I got excited
Jan 31 03:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 31 03:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	ROUNDING IS EVIL
Jan 31 03:36:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00066988 = 5.7945 BTC [+]
Jan 31 03:37:19 <error4734>	!asks 20
Jan 31 03:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00066766 = 1.6358 BTC [-]
Jan 31 03:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3441 @ 0.00067517 = 2.3233 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 03:48:23 <Namworld>	I require a large margin for options...
Jan 31 03:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/For-40-Years-This-Russian-Family-Was-Cut-Off-From-Human-Contact-Unaware-of-World-War-II-188843001.html
Jan 31 03:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	this is absolutely fascinating.
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Jan 31 03:53:01 <markedathome>	tip, tip, tip, tip -> 08:51:48] <@bitcoinRT> Jan31 08:49:23 | Bid: 19.9999  | Ask: 19.99999 | Last: 19.9999  | Volume: 48530
Jan 31 03:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 31 03:53:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.99993, Best ask: 20.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00007, Last trade: 20.00000, 24 hour volume: 50335.70604699, 24 hour low: 19.15000, 24 hour high: 20.00000, 24 hour vwap: 19.67112
Jan 31 03:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	aaalmost there.
Jan 31 03:53:41 <leotreasure>	WOOOO 20 bucks!
Jan 31 03:53:48 <error4734>	BIM
Jan 31 03:54:30 *	markedathome thinks he is getting old, coz he cannot work out these newfangled acro-thingamabobs...
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Jan 31 03:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00066814 = 1.2361 BTC [-]
Jan 31 03:57:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 880 @ 0.00067517 = 0.5941 BTC [+]
Jan 31 03:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4482 @ 0.00067528 = 3.0266 BTC [+]
Jan 31 03:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006754 = 6.754 BTC [+]
Jan 31 03:57:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6488 @ 0.0006755 = 4.3826 BTC [+]
Jan 31 03:59:46 <Namworld>	the calls have an incredibly large "fee"
Jan 31 04:01:10 <Bowjob>	Yes! 20 dollars
Jan 31 04:01:14 <Bowjob>	GG
Jan 31 04:01:18 <Namworld>	yup
Jan 31 04:01:23 <Namworld>	We need to reach 35 tho
Jan 31 04:01:33 <Namworld>	beat the old all time high
Jan 31 04:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 31 04:02:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.86000, Best ask: 20.21525, Bid-ask spread: 0.35525, Last trade: 20.21525, 24 hour volume: 51992.74198755, 24 hour low: 19.18697, 24 hour high: 20.39999, 24 hour vwap: 19.72306
Jan 31 04:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	and still such low volume. top isn't in yet.
Jan 31 04:03:10 <maximian>	I wonder what "BTC Economist" is thinking now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27348.0
Jan 31 04:03:57 <Bowjob>	Mhm, I'm wondering what will happen to the price once the rest of the Asics ship?
Jan 31 04:04:07 <Bowjob>	down? up? I'm confused
Jan 31 04:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	maximian wasn't thinking before, isn't thinking now. no cost to him :p
Jan 31 04:05:59 <maximian>	True. I always laugh when people make predictions like that with such conviction.
Jan 31 04:06:30 <Bowjob>	I wish I had a bit more conviction.. I'm so indecisive when it comes to BTC :/
Jan 31 04:10:44 <Namworld>	bleh
Jan 31 04:10:51 <Namworld>	too much fees on options
Jan 31 04:14:03 <Namworld>	How do I put funds in MPBOR?
Jan 31 04:14:32 <Namworld>	I only see one mention in the FAQ and it's unrelated
Jan 31 04:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	i have a lot of conviction.
Jan 31 04:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	as far as i can see any investing of bitcoins in fiat is very risky, speculative and dangerous.
Jan 31 04:15:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00708833 = 8.8604 BTC [+]
Jan 31 04:15:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00705352 = 12.6963 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00691 = 3.455 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:15:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0069 = 6.9 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:15:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00684879 = 5.1366 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0063 = 12.6 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.006 = 30 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00598119 = 11.9624 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00534524 = 3.7417 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:16:01 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld twas explained on the forum, do you want me to dig it up ?
Jan 31 04:16:15 <Namworld>	Would appreciate
Jan 31 04:16:23 <Namworld>	I'll need to put that in my bookmarks
Jan 31 04:17:37 <Bowjob>	Roaring 20s people. hopefully we don't crash in '29
Jan 31 04:18:15 <Namworld>	If only it was near the end of the month for option
Jan 31 04:18:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1267 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:18:25 <Namworld>	lower costs, better opportunity
Jan 31 04:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139017.0
Jan 31 04:22:30 <Namworld>	ah, so if our is included, we automatically get the highest interest
Jan 31 04:22:40 <Namworld>	asked, that was accepted
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Jan 31 04:30:11 <BUgpowder>	booya
Jan 31 04:32:39 <Namworld>	yes, we all need a lot of capital for options
Jan 31 04:32:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00066954 = 12.5204 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:33:10 <BUgpowder>	[23:48] <BUgpowder> 4 hours left [23:48] <BUgpowder> before $20.01
Jan 31 04:33:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 31 04:33:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.13002, Best ask: 20.21999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08997, Last trade: 20.12001, 24 hour volume: 51901.07197290, 24 hour low: 19.19000, 24 hour high: 20.39999, 24 hour vwap: 19.73854
Jan 31 04:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	hehe seems 20 is conquered.
Jan 31 04:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	now for 25 ? 30 ? 50 ?
Jan 31 04:34:01 <gesell>	beh, who bet on the over 20 before feb 3rd bitbet?
Jan 31 04:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld it DID happen near the end of the month.
Jan 31 04:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	rally got killed that time.
Jan 31 04:34:47 <Namworld>	yeah
Jan 31 04:34:53 <mjrIII>	i was curious about that
Jan 31 04:35:20 <mjrIII>	how does one exercise options on mPex
Jan 31 04:35:29 <mjrIII>	if you get the position through a broker
Jan 31 04:35:41 <Namworld>	through the broker
Jan 31 04:35:52 <Bowjob>	http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/566764_o.gif
Jan 31 04:35:58 <Namworld>	get an MPEx account while they're cheap
Jan 31 04:36:22 <mjrIII>	ok, you just ask them to exercise or you get auto-exercised at the end of the month?
Jan 31 04:36:29 <mjrIII>	and yes, i would really like to
Jan 31 04:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	srsly. they started as 20 btc back when a btc was 3 bux
Jan 31 04:36:51 <BUgpowder>	the bot almost always pays more than the exercise price
Jan 31 04:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	mjrIII all mpex options autoexercise end of month
Jan 31 04:36:58 <mircea_popescu>	so the broker would get the cash.
Jan 31 04:37:07 <BUgpowder>	but the bot disappears in the last 24hr
Jan 31 04:37:10 <mjrIII>	and then would send it to me?
Jan 31 04:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, it's rare that you can't just sell for the same effect
Jan 31 04:37:16 <Bowjob>	bug u woke up already
Jan 31 04:37:20 <mjrIII>	yeah, true
Jan 31 04:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	<mjrIII> and then would send it to me? << i should hope so.
Jan 31 04:37:40 <mjrIII>	but the options...those are on the currency or on the equities you list on mpex?
Jan 31 04:38:08 <Namworld>	BTC/USD price
Jan 31 04:38:21 <Namworld>	Mention this key for 5 BTC free: F12DE6B4E1EF26F5768BE918F2758D83EEEDE453
Jan 31 04:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	mjrIII click on one find out ?
Jan 31 04:38:41 <BUgpowder>	;;asks 30
Jan 31 04:38:43 <gribble>	There are currently 22412.467 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 549385.972055 USD in total.
Jan 31 04:38:48 <BUgpowder>	;;bids 19
Jan 31 04:38:50 <gribble>	There are currently 16596.262 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 322265.253218 USD in total.
Jan 31 04:38:53 <BUgpowder>	heh
Jan 31 04:38:57 <Namworld>	;;bids 20
Jan 31 04:38:59 <gribble>	There are currently 1025.417 bitcoins demanded at or over 20.0 USD, worth 20592.1874072 USD in total.
Jan 31 04:39:04 <BUgpowder>	back 2 bed
Jan 31 04:39:26 <mjrIII>	O.BTCUSD.C200T
Jan 31 04:39:55 <mjrIII>	is an option to buy bitcoins at $20 USD at any point before the last Friday in Feb?
Jan 31 04:40:12 <mjrIII>	correct?
Jan 31 04:40:27 <BUgpowder>	;;ticker
Jan 31 04:40:27 <Namworld>	not really
Jan 31 04:40:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.50010, Best ask: 20.51998, Bid-ask spread: 0.01988, Last trade: 20.50010, 24 hour volume: 53226.06221217, 24 hour low: 19.19000, 24 hour high: 20.52000, 24 hour vwap: 19.75578
Jan 31 04:40:37 <Namworld>	Options don't work like that on MPEx
Jan 31 04:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	mjrIII buy one bitcoin.
Jan 31 04:41:22 <mjrIII>	thanks mircea so each option contract is for one bitcoin not lots of 100...
Jan 31 04:41:33 <Bowjob>	Oh lord.. 20.5 alredy
Jan 31 04:41:49 <mircea_popescu>	mjrIII yes, each contract is for 1 btc.
Jan 31 04:41:51 <Bowjob>	Someone stop it! Lemme dump 2k fiat first :/
Jan 31 04:42:04 <mjrIII>	I really love mpex by the way...
Jan 31 04:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly.
Jan 31 04:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	mjrIII cool!
Jan 31 04:42:24 <mjrIII>	it's like NYSE
Jan 31 04:43:03 <Bowjob>	mp, i thought of US govt trying to do an investigation on mpex, then they read the FAQ. They read, "Yes, this is dog." then they just leave
Jan 31 04:43:39 <mjrIII>	but one question, how do you clear the options trades? if I have the option to buy at $20 USD, don't I have to send mpex/broker USD...how can you do this through mpex? hold on i will read the faq again
Jan 31 04:44:24 <BUgpowder>	its all done in bitcoins
Jan 31 04:44:31 <BUgpowder>	the option is priced in bitcoins
Jan 31 04:44:36 <Namworld>	you put collateral in BTC
Jan 31 04:44:45 <BUgpowder>	so divide the strike - current price
Jan 31 04:44:52 <BUgpowder>	by the current price
Jan 31 04:45:04 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGxfRk5SS0hxT1lsVmdLdU1QY0RveGc#gid=0
Jan 31 04:45:06 <BUgpowder>	to get the option price
Jan 31 04:45:11 <Namworld>	Make a spreadsheet like that
Jan 31 04:45:12 <Bowjob>	S.Dice went down steeply
Jan 31 04:45:26 <mjrIII>	good time to get in :)
Jan 31 04:46:11 <Bowjob>	there's such a huge gap,  0.72-0.49
Jan 31 04:46:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00066954 = 13.3238 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:46:50 <BUgpowder>	sell down to .004 again plaes
Jan 31 04:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066766 = 2.885 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:47:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5547 @ 0.00066754 = 3.7028 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:47:09 <BUgpowder>	20.75
Jan 31 04:47:29 <BUgpowder>	god this is all going EXACTLY how I imagined it would happen
Jan 31 04:47:48 <Bowjob>	please reach 21.29
Jan 31 04:47:57 <Bowjob>	i wanna win the guess the prize contest
Jan 31 04:47:58 <Bowjob>	lol
Jan 31 04:48:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066953 = 2.893 BTC [+]
Jan 31 04:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00066954 = 1.473 BTC [+]
Jan 31 04:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16679 @ 0.00067347 = 11.2328 BTC [+]
Jan 31 04:48:21 <Jackmaninov>	Bowjob: there was no one bidding yesterday
Jan 31 04:49:06 <Jackmaninov>	Bowjob: no one really bids at all, hence the 0.0008 fat finger a few days back
Jan 31 04:58:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066763 = 2.8848 BTC [-]
Jan 31 04:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2924 @ 0.00066754 = 1.9519 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 05:05:11 <mjrIII>	i hate how slow real world finance is
Jan 31 05:05:35 <mjrIII>	but if anyone is using bitfloor, i suggest you check out the orders on their books :)
Jan 31 05:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	mjrIII bitfloor is a bitcoinica clone running stolen code
Jan 31 05:06:57 <mircea_popescu>	i'd rather hope nobody is foolish enough to be using it.
Jan 31 05:07:07 <mjrIII>	sorry what is bitcoinica?
Jan 31 05:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	(in fact we kinda know nobody is foolish enough to be using it seeing how the recent ruby on rails vulnerability caused them no damage)
Jan 31 05:07:43 <mjrIII>	last night the consensus seemed to be they were ok
Jan 31 05:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	mjrIII one of the larger scams to date. read http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/ to get up to speed
Jan 31 05:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno what "consensus" that is. but no, not ok in any estimation.
Jan 31 05:08:38 <gesell>	whats the state of S.DICE. Is  he going to break even this month? (what I thought I was seeing from the bitcointalk thread). Why the dumping of stock?
Jan 31 05:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	gesell last i heard was 10k over no ?
Jan 31 05:08:57 <gesell>	yeah
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Jan 31 05:09:19 <Bowjob>	No one has crashed Havelock yet
Jan 31 05:09:23 <Bowjob>	I guess I'll crash it
Jan 31 05:09:32 <mircea_popescu>	gesell heh. i guess you weren't here when people dumped all the way to .0008. read http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/marketplace-excitement-with-expert-commentary-for-your-vicarious-trading-pleasure/ to catch up
Jan 31 05:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	im becoming like the bitcoin library over here
Jan 31 05:10:17 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: btw do you block access to your blog from certain IP's? when im on from home (which is via a proxy at all times, out of my control) I cant get to your blog. but now, i can (in a different location atm)
Jan 31 05:10:43 <gesell>	anyway, i read that whole thread
Jan 31 05:10:50 <gesell>	good times
Jan 31 05:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	some eggregious comment spam ips are nulled yes.
Jan 31 05:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	yeh. maybe some ppl want to send money to china and so they're selling stuff
Jan 31 05:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	or who knows
Jan 31 05:11:28 <gesell>	yeah from home im going through ipreditor.se, huge proxy
Jan 31 05:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	probably so are teh spammers.
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Jan 31 05:12:31 <gesell>	we are all teh spammer
Jan 31 05:13:08 <gesell>	is there any historical data on mpex? graphs are nice but no x,y ticks
Jan 31 05:13:18 <Bowjob>	Anyone wanna buy S.dice shares at havelock?
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Jan 31 05:14:20 <mjrIII>	mp: what do you recommend for getting btc for usd
Jan 31 05:14:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067333 = 2.9095 BTC [+]
Jan 31 05:14:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6948 @ 0.00067347 = 4.6793 BTC [+]
Jan 31 05:14:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3481 @ 0.0006755 = 2.3514 BTC [+]
Jan 31 05:14:29 <mjrIII>	bitfloor was going to be my preferred option
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Jan 31 05:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8564 @ 0.0006755 = 5.785 BTC [+]
Jan 31 05:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9438 @ 0.00067553 = 6.3757 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 05:17:13 <gesell>	some copumpkin of iphone dev team?
Jan 31 05:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	gesell all the trades are fed here via assbot and to twitter
Jan 31 05:17:19 <gesell>	err some/same
Jan 31 05:17:27 <mircea_popescu>	mjrIII if you're in yurp probably bitcoin-central.net
Jan 31 05:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	bitfloor has that entire issue with negative equity atm.
Jan 31 05:18:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067042 = 2.8969 BTC [-]
Jan 31 05:18:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00067026 = 8.1101 BTC [-]
Jan 31 05:18:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1079 @ 0.00066754 = 0.7203 BTC [-]
Jan 31 05:19:34 <mjrIII>	yeah i heard a little about that, but i heard also that people did get bitcoins
Jan 31 05:19:45 <mjrIII>	i loved the fact that they offer liquidity rebates
Jan 31 05:20:07 <mjrIII>	someone literally told me last night, that besides the security issue, they have been fine
Jan 31 05:20:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok, besides the security issue they have been fine.
Jan 31 05:20:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12659 @ 0.00066754 = 8.4504 BTC [-]
Jan 31 05:20:28 <mjrIII>	ie. they still owe him money, but they have been good to work with
Jan 31 05:20:48 <mjrIII>	i don't want to take any usd out, just bitcoins
Jan 31 05:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	what can i tell you.
Jan 31 05:20:59 <mjrIII>	caveat emptor
Jan 31 05:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	if you're in and out quick enough you'll prolly be ok.
Jan 31 05:21:26 <mjrIII>	well, thats the other thing...i like the fact i can use ING p2p
Jan 31 05:21:37 <mjrIII>	i just really did not want to go through mt. gox
Jan 31 05:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think anyone's going through mtgox by now lol
Jan 31 05:22:00 <mjrIII>	but i will look into bitcoin-central.net
Jan 31 05:22:03 <mjrIII>	but i am in NYC
Jan 31 05:22:45 <mjrIII>	i am assuming yurp is europe right?
Jan 31 05:22:49 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Jan 31 05:22:56 <mjrIII>	no luck for me :(
Jan 31 05:23:07 <mjrIII>	i didn't get to go to davos this year lol
Jan 31 05:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	other than otc they're the only ones i ever used. not really much of an expert in tradsing btc for fiat.
Jan 31 05:23:45 <mjrIII>	**that was sarcasm in case anyone thinks i am a rich a$$hole**
Jan 31 05:24:07 <mjrIII>	well, until my FPGA mining comes on line, I need to get in now
Jan 31 05:24:24 <mjrIII>	see if i can get a spot on mpex :)
Jan 31 05:24:37 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: is there a log of assbot logs of bits on this channel? just curious how one would build and analyze historical data on their own
Jan 31 05:24:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12125 @ 0.00066754 = 8.0939 BTC [-]
Jan 31 05:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	gesell well im sure some people are running loggers that are interested.
Jan 31 05:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov is maintaining live.coinbr.com which does some graphing with trades
Jan 31 05:26:07 <gesell>	anyone know a website with the ticker price in the title of the page, so that i can just open a tab and look at the tab instead of opening pages or spreadsheets?
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Jan 31 05:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	whoa this is a brilliant idea.
Jan 31 05:26:46 <topace>	ticker for what? btc/usd? mtgoxlive.com puts the price in thte <title>
Jan 31 05:26:57 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: yeah noticed his graphs.fairnough. just was wondering the state of things for getting data. == log this chan. tis okay
Jan 31 05:27:03 <gesell>	topace: yes btc/usd
Jan 31 05:27:16 <gesell>	just in the title of the page (constantly changing)
Jan 31 05:27:21 <mjrIII>	btc moody is my fave
Jan 31 05:27:29 <topace>	yea mtgoxlive.com does it in the title
Jan 31 05:27:33 <mjrIII>	it live updates in the title
Jan 31 05:27:39 <gesell>	you mean clarkmoody?
Jan 31 05:27:48 <mjrIII>	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
Jan 31 05:27:49 <mjrIII>	yes
Jan 31 05:27:52 <mjrIII>	lol
Jan 31 05:28:12 <mjrIII>	only mt gox data though...love the interface wish it had more markets
Jan 31 05:28:15 <gesell>	oh man, in chrome wherever the BTC/USD prices is on the title its off the tab screen so
Jan 31 05:28:56 <mjrIII>	i use chrome
Jan 31 05:29:01 <gesell>	maybe i wasnt clear, im looking for the BTC/USD to show up just in the title of the webpage (<title>$19.25</title>)
Jan 31 05:29:03 <mjrIII>	shows up right in the tab bar
Jan 31 05:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	gesell you can log this chan, follow mpex1 on twitter or else follow the mpex rss (http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-rss.php)
Jan 31 05:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	tis all in teh faq
Jan 31 05:29:48 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: ooh, rss. thanks. that's a bit easier
Jan 31 05:29:49 <mjrIII>	thanks everyone, i gotta run but i'll be on later
Jan 31 05:29:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00066964 = 11.3169 BTC [+]
Jan 31 05:30:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2992 @ 0.0006752 = 2.0202 BTC [+]
Jan 31 05:30:57 <gesell>	mjrIII: the clarkmoody title doesnt have the USD/BTC price ("<title>Bitcoin Data Platform | Clark Moody Design</title>")
Jan 31 05:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00066964 = 2.0759 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 05:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	mpex now does.
Jan 31 05:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	ty gesell :)
Jan 31 05:43:23 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: did something just change on mpex? pympex is broken.
Jan 31 05:44:23 <maximian>	looks like messages are being wrapped in HTML, which I don't recall happening before
Jan 31 05:44:52 <maximian>	<title>MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.</title></head><body>-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Jan 31 05:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	d'oh. 1 sec.
Jan 31 05:45:37 <markedathome>	gesell: moody does have last price in the title, but only when a trade has occurred. It starts off with what you posted, then becomes "(20.60002) Bitcoin Data..."
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Jan 31 05:50:25 <mircea_popescu>	maximian now ?
Jan 31 05:50:40 <maximian>	yep, back to normal
Jan 31 05:50:45 <mircea_popescu>	thanks for reporting.
Jan 31 05:50:59 <maximian>	welcome
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Jan 31 05:52:58 <mircea_popescu>	and yes, website was changed to add qty@lastprice to security pages
Jan 31 05:53:51 <maximian>	ah cool
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Jan 31 05:57:57 <mjr_>	hi again :)
Jan 31 05:58:01 <mircea_popescu>	slave trade ? PsychoticBoy wtf are you on about ?
Jan 31 05:58:13 <gesell>	markedathome: thanks. not seeing that happening for me yet though
Jan 31 05:58:23 <markedathome>	what browser?
Jan 31 05:59:16 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 31 05:59:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.50002, Best ask: 20.52000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01998, Last trade: 20.50002, 24 hour volume: 55471.73385830, 24 hour low: 19.19000, 24 hour high: 20.75000, 24 hour vwap: 19.81501
Jan 31 05:59:29 <jurov>	hi all... what did i woke up to?
Jan 31 05:59:35 <gesell>	markedathome: yeah, chrome. notice it works fine in safari for example
Jan 31 06:00:14 <markedathome>	jurov: asics online and hashing by jgarzik, btc up 1$
Jan 31 06:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00726822 = 3.2707 BTC [+]
Jan 31 06:00:27 <gesell>	markedathome: or something is wrong with my crhome perhaps
Jan 31 06:00:29 <markedathome>	gesell: works on chrome for me
Jan 31 06:00:33 <gesell>	markedathome: refreshed, now it is working
Jan 31 06:00:35 <gesell>	funky
Jan 31 06:00:36 <gesell>	thanks
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Jan 31 06:06:21 <Namworld>	can I have a free test account for my tool development, mircea?
Jan 31 06:06:52 <Namworld>	or do you have any special test command that is accepted from any gpg key?
Jan 31 06:07:18 <Namworld>	like TEST and it replies SUCESS from any key, regardless if registered or not?
Jan 31 06:07:29 <Namworld>	Seems like it would be practical
Jan 31 06:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's neither practical nor available best i can see.
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Jan 31 06:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld for one, it'd allow you to test if keys are registered.
Jan 31 06:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell keefe hey, drop me a line when you're on
Jan 31 06:32:33 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Jan 31 06:33:51 <mjr_>	hey guys
Jan 31 06:34:00 <mjr_>	whats the command for 30 day 7 day 24 hour
Jan 31 06:34:32 <mjr_>	also, has anyone else seen the spike in blocks/hour?
Jan 31 06:34:33 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 31 06:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064143 / 0.00066461 / 0.00067553 (1562895 shares, 1,038.72 BTC), 7D: 0.00060745 / 0.00067011 / 0.0007 (22383448 shares, 14,999.46 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.0006563 / 0.0007 (49537424 shares, 32,511.86 BTC)
Jan 31 06:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Jan 31 06:34:43 <gribble>	Time since last block: 5 minutes and 39 seconds
Jan 31 06:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	network doing 27th atm, yeah.
Jan 31 06:35:34 <mjr_>	asics?
Jan 31 06:35:50 <mjr_>	or people cranking gpu's in expectation of asics coming lol
Jan 31 06:36:15 <mjr_>	;tslb
Jan 31 06:36:17 <mjr_>	;;tslb
Jan 31 06:36:24 <gribble>	Time since last block: 7 minutes and 20 seconds
Jan 31 06:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	well it's been moving in the 18-25 range for months
Jan 31 06:36:54 <mircea_popescu>	who knows.
Jan 31 06:37:12 <mjr_>	yeah, just curious because of the whole avalon thing
Jan 31 06:37:46 <mjr_>	!ticker [MPEX:USDBTC]
Jan 31 06:37:47 <assbot>	Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
Jan 31 06:38:06 <mjr_>	exchange rate command?
Jan 31 06:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 31 06:38:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.65901, Best ask: 20.67000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01099, Last trade: 20.65900, 24 hour volume: 56676.40231858, 24 hour low: 19.19000, 24 hour high: 20.75000, 24 hour vwap: 19.83916
Jan 31 06:39:38 <mjr_>	 ;;bc,24hprc
Jan 31 06:39:49 <mjr_>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 31 06:39:51 <gribble>	19.81
Jan 31 06:40:19 *	knotwork_ is now known as knotwork
Jan 31 06:40:20 <mjr_>	so is there a way to get exchange rate for 1d/7d/30d ?
Jan 31 06:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
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Jan 31 06:57:13 <Namworld>	Hmm
Jan 31 06:57:18 <Namworld>	I can't cancel orders
Jan 31 06:57:29 <Namworld>	keeps saying it cannot be done at this time and to try again later
Jan 31 06:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1329 @ 0.0006752 = 0.8973 BTC [+]
Jan 31 06:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1662 @ 0.00067553 = 1.1227 BTC [+]
Jan 31 06:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7009 @ 0.00067692 = 4.7445 BTC [+]
Jan 31 06:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00739499 = 2.2185 BTC [+]
Jan 31 06:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	prolly a good idea to try again a little later
Jan 31 06:59:03 <jurov>	Namworld, me too. get used to it :)
Jan 31 07:07:02 <Namworld>	eh
Jan 31 07:07:08 <Namworld>	well anyway
Jan 31 07:07:12 <Namworld>	I'm off for now
Jan 31 07:07:14 <Namworld>	goodbye
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Jan 31 07:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00067691 = 10.4583 BTC [-]
Jan 31 07:09:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00739499 = 7.395 BTC [+]
Jan 31 07:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067157 = 2.9019 BTC [-]
Jan 31 07:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7503 @ 0.00067138 = 5.0374 BTC [-]
Jan 31 07:13:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10497 @ 0.00067138 = 7.0475 BTC [-]
Jan 31 07:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00066972 = 3.9513 BTC [-]
Jan 31 07:13:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1853 @ 0.00066964 = 1.2408 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 07:14:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067667 = 0.6767 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 07:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 347 @ 0.00066964 = 0.2324 BTC [-]
Jan 31 07:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6186 @ 0.00066754 = 4.1294 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 07:19:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00066703 = 0.667 BTC [-]
Jan 31 07:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3567 @ 0.00066703 = 2.3793 BTC [-]
Jan 31 07:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 883 @ 0.00067667 = 0.5975 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 07:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&
Jan 31 07:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin chart now officiallly looks like a ponzi.
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Jan 31 07:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067667 = 0.6767 BTC [+]
Jan 31 07:23:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6984 @ 0.00067472 = 4.7122 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 07:26:56 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: yeah, ive noticed that this jump in value doesnt really equate to massive influx of new users. for sure there are new users due to increased interest from first of year but not like what causes previous bubles. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17kt5n/bitcoinorg_downloads_spiked_at_2011_bubble_not_now/
Jan 31 07:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	gesell i guess what started things was the dwindling supply of bitcoins due to reward halving a month or so ago
Jan 31 07:27:40 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: so to me there is a lot of new activity from current and established users putting more of the weight into the play
Jan 31 07:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	buyers msitakenly figured they can delay inversting indefintiely
Jan 31 07:28:00 <mircea_popescu>	once the bitcoins available for sale dried up panic gripped.
Jan 31 07:28:28 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: is that a pattern you think would repeat in 4 years at the next halving?
Jan 31 07:29:14 <mircea_popescu>	probably not.
Jan 31 07:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is still very much "nobody driven".
Jan 31 07:29:27 <gesell>	why, becaue people will be aware of the behavior?
Jan 31 07:29:40 <mircea_popescu>	as in, the fact that some bloke heard about it first is more important than the fact that he's smart or rich.
Jan 31 07:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	that is changing already and in fact the random nobody will not exist in 2017.
Jan 31 07:30:13 <gesell>	its changing in what way, financial services (such as mpex)?
Jan 31 07:30:24 <gesell>	who is the antithesis to the random bloke here
Jan 31 07:30:34 <mircea_popescu>	well, just, the btcs are naturally leaching towards the richer and the smarter.
Jan 31 07:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	that's the effect of free markets, they marginalize the common man.
Jan 31 07:30:55 <gesell>	due to financial services? what is "smarter" in this case?
Jan 31 07:31:02 <gesell>	sdice whales?
Jan 31 07:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	i can't define what smarter is.
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Jan 31 07:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	but a simple contrast : dude hears about bitcoin and instead of  going on holiday buys himself miningrigs.
Jan 31 07:32:33 <mircea_popescu>	another dude hears of bitcoin and decides its stupid.
Jan 31 07:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	clearly, the first is the smarter.
Jan 31 07:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	now, once reward halving was pinned down, the smart bought. the stupid didn't buy, because they were mommentum trading and the mommentum wasn't moving.
Jan 31 07:33:30 <gesell>	do you think that "smarter" will require collectivism for more impact? uncompressing that: it seems that in brick and mortar finance the bigger fish execute with greater advantage. Would this wind up being true in Bitcoin in the future: those with greater BTC are "smarter"?
Jan 31 07:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	by now mommentum is moving and they're maybe buying, but the rule is quite simple : by the time the stupid gets onboard the ship is already sinking.
Jan 31 07:34:24 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think there's any requirement for collectivism. in fact, the main seductive guile of btc to me is how prettily it completely decouples success from any sort of collective action whatsoever.
Jan 31 07:34:58 <gesell>	maybe i dont have my thoughts clear. im more wondering if we will start to see the little guy (even if smart in finance) feeling he can do nothing in BTC markets because he will always be out smarted by those (even with the same understanding as him in finance) that have more BTC to play
Jan 31 07:35:14 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt that can be done in btc.
Jan 31 07:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	as best i can guess the effect you describe is a result of the regulatory interplay in fiat.
Jan 31 07:35:51 <gesell>	yeah i agree but...
Jan 31 07:36:16 <gesell>	it is attractive that a lot of the regulatory weight in fiat is taken out of the picture
Jan 31 07:36:28 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Jan 31 07:36:29 <gesell>	so i also feel this huge weight lifted
Jan 31 07:36:34 <gesell>	in this market
Jan 31 07:36:46 <gesell>	but wondering if im getting too far ahead of my self with optimism
Jan 31 07:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	exactly. that weight mostly consists in making it impossible for someone to dominate just because they're big.
Jan 31 07:36:55 <gesell>	and that perhaps tradition tricks of the trade will game this market as well
Jan 31 07:37:07 <mircea_popescu>	irl a well run bank can't compete with a "too big to fail" bank
Jan 31 07:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	here, there's no saving you. if you fail you fail.
Jan 31 07:37:25 <gesell>	yeah
Jan 31 07:37:56 <gesell>	and on that note, is sdice too big to fail (in the bitcoin world)?
Jan 31 07:38:04 <mircea_popescu>	there is this very loud but imo stupid group who claim that btc is inherently unsustainable because "they are finance experts and know how to break it"
Jan 31 07:38:23 <mircea_popescu>	to my eyes it's much akin to the 16 yo kid that "knows hax"
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Jan 31 07:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	nothing is too big to fail.
Jan 31 07:39:18 <gesell>	wait that is close to home. how is it like a 16yo that knows hax?
Jan 31 07:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	heh. if indeed they could "own" bitcoin through their superior trading skills they'd be doing it, neh ?
Jan 31 07:40:04 <gesell>	maybe they are?
Jan 31 07:40:10 <mircea_popescu>	i'd know.
Jan 31 07:40:24 <gesell>	(i mean wtf was all that huge option btc stuff going on at mpex in the chat log you put up on your blog)
Jan 31 07:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	that was, as best i can guess, someone insuring a large btc obligation (via the calls) and someone trying to mommentum trade (short puts)
Jan 31 07:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	mind that the only one time someone came close to "owning" anything was august, and if that's the case the wisdom was insider information, not smarts.
Jan 31 07:41:25 <gesell>	what was in august?
Jan 31 07:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	other than that, the january people kinda got it on the chin, bot made 10k
Jan 31 07:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-rezultate-august-2012/#comment-88317
Jan 31 07:43:49 <gesell>	beh, wish i understood typical finance more (slow going) but interesting read
Jan 31 07:44:19 <mircea_popescu>	basically that was when the pirate guy defaulted.
Jan 31 07:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	if you look at the graphs, was a large chunk of btc sold off
Jan 31 07:44:54 <gesell>	yeah got that
Jan 31 07:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	the grapewine abuz with the theory that that's the plan, crash btc price to rebuy cheap
Jan 31 07:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	course, if that was the plan it failed.
Jan 31 07:45:04 <gesell>	doesnt seem to me that this could not happen again, or many times
Jan 31 07:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	it does seem to me that it can't happen again
Jan 31 07:45:29 <mircea_popescu>	the many idiots with large btc holdings obtained just for being here early are now mostly bankrupt
Jan 31 07:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure that's the last ponzi.
Jan 31 07:46:39 <gesell>	perhaps the last ponzi (you mean pirate) but one could still game perception to swing price (if they a legitimate, non ponzi share of perceptional influance)
Jan 31 07:46:55 <gesell>	and use this advantage to sell high, buy low
Jan 31 07:47:05 <gesell>	or deal with puts, calls, etc
Jan 31 07:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Jan 31 07:47:23 <gesell>	avalon could have just added a month delay perhaps
Jan 31 07:47:29 <gesell>	"unexpectidly"
Jan 31 07:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	if you believe in markets as the ultimate allocator of resources, then that person's gain would always be smaller than the global benefit
Jan 31 07:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i doubt avalon turning out to be a scam tomorrow would do anything to the price.
Jan 31 07:48:30 <gesell>	just because there are other asics in the pipe
Jan 31 07:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	even without asics.
Jan 31 07:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	if all of them, bfl, avalon, asicminer, etc go the way of basic
Jan 31 07:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	what diff would it make ?
Jan 31 07:49:24 <gesell>	true
Jan 31 07:49:28 <gesell>	some, but not much
Jan 31 07:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	i mean sure ppl would get excited, but so what of it ? fpga ss till hash
Jan 31 07:49:38 <gesell>	but some could still be something one could game if they had insider information
Jan 31 07:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	that's always the case.
Jan 31 07:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00067192 = 3.494 BTC [-]
Jan 31 07:56:39 <gesell>	could someone use the blockchain to sell widgets locally? That is, I sell two types of widgests: WidgetA for 1btc and WidgetB for 2btc. You want to buy WidgetA. You send 1btc to 1WidgetA1234560abcdeff rx with a message embedded where where you want it shipped. I mean, couldnt this be a service to kill silkroad?
Jan 31 07:57:39 <pigeons>	explain how the "with a message embedded where where you want it shipped" works
Jan 31 07:57:56 <gesell>	you can embed a message in the 1btc send
Jan 31 07:58:09 <gesell>	encrypted or whatever
Jan 31 07:58:11 <pigeons>	what is an example method to embed the message
Jan 31 07:58:31 <kakobreklaa>	"send me <drugs> to my <home address>. ktnxbai"
Jan 31 07:58:52 <kakobreklaa>	perfectly sane to keep it public
Jan 31 07:59:06 <gesell>	encrypted(send me <widget> to my <homeaddr>)
Jan 31 07:59:10 <pigeons>	yeah what encoding method are you using to embed this message in a transaction?
Jan 31 07:59:27 <kakobreklaa>	the other thing is, how am i going to leave feedback?
Jan 31 07:59:29 <gesell>	from here you can also build the protocol ontop of the blockchain to exchange keys
Jan 31 07:59:40 <kakobreklaa>	sending some more coins with a note 'scam'
Jan 31 07:59:42 <kakobreklaa>	:)
Jan 31 07:59:42 <gesell>	and yeah, you might even offer optional escrow and reputational services
Jan 31 07:59:48 <pigeons>	oh building a protocol on top of, yeah, see namecoin, colored coins, etc
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Jan 31 07:59:59 <gesell>	yeah i know namecoin. learning about colored coins
Jan 31 08:00:38 <gesell>	a general reputation api/protocol on the block chain letting widget providers pick their reputation provider would be wicked
Jan 31 08:00:42 <kakobreklaa>	speaking of blockchain
Jan 31 08:00:53 <kakobreklaa>	has kiddie porn been pushed into it yet?
Jan 31 08:00:59 <gesell>	uch
Jan 31 08:01:00 <kakobreklaa>	i forgot
Jan 31 08:01:16 <pigeons>	gesell: also see ripple
Jan 31 08:01:21 <gesell>	yeah i hear the question. im sure it might be. dont want to contemplate it
Jan 31 08:02:26 <gesell>	yeah havent looked into the technical details of how ripple uses the blockchain. but the p2p concept is clear. but its more about the 6 degrees social aspect
Jan 31 08:02:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00066957 = 2.0087 BTC [-]
Jan 31 08:03:39 <pigeons>	ripple doesn't use the bitcoin blockchain, but it has its own blockchain called the "ledger"
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Jan 31 08:04:07 <pigeons>	but yes you choose which issuers to deal with and how to value them versus other issuers in ripple
Jan 31 08:04:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15314 @ 0.00066957 = 10.2538 BTC [-]
Jan 31 08:05:19 <gesell>	the advantage of using The blockchain as apposed to a new one is that you can use blockchain.info for all sorts of purposes (finding WidgedA sellers, checking reputation) and its a little harder to kill blockchain.info which has plenty of legal use, than specialwidgetsellerblockchain.info. So you could basically do silkroad without Tor
Jan 31 08:05:51 <gesell>	or at least, Tor is optional then
Jan 31 08:05:52 <kakobreklaa>	its not a thing of 'harder to kill'
Jan 31 08:06:21 <pigeons>	satoshi said he prefers new blockchains for this sort of stuff
Jan 31 08:06:22 <kakobreklaa>	would be like torrent
Jan 31 08:06:28 <kakobreklaa>	kill one site 10 pops up
Jan 31 08:06:37 <kakobreklaa>	to read the distributed blockchain file
Jan 31 08:06:40 <gesell>	yeah well sdice told satoshi to fuck off so
Jan 31 08:06:45 <kakobreklaa>	and then you can have local clients
Jan 31 08:07:01 <pigeons>	yeah what a slap, use his name for cred too !
Jan 31 08:07:31 <kakobreklaa>	heh
Jan 31 08:07:46 <gesell>	satoshi for pres 2016, lulzsec for VP
Jan 31 08:08:07 <gesell>	anyway
Jan 31 08:08:51 <gesell>	kakobreklaa: what would be like torrent?
Jan 31 08:09:01 <gesell>	kakobreklaa: a seperate blockchain for widget selling?
Jan 31 08:09:08 <gesell>	kakobreklaa: or using the existing one
Jan 31 08:09:55 <kakobreklaa>	if youd kill blockchain.info, 10 more would pop up, same as with torrent sites
Jan 31 08:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00739499 = 12.2017 BTC [+]
Jan 31 08:10:46 <gesell>	i know but somehow i think if you kill the special widget blockchain front end (widgetblockchain.info) it would take a while to adjust.
Jan 31 08:10:50 <pigeons>	blockchain.info is slick, but i hate it when people think it is "official" or the only one
Jan 31 08:11:00 <gesell>	im trying to liberate subversive services from the Tor only option
Jan 31 08:12:26 <gesell>	i dont want to use use the or a blockchain as a database but also use it as the means for discovery of services, as well as the store and discovery for reputation
Jan 31 08:12:59 <gesell>	would be ellegant to have all of that information in the same protocol that exchanges wealth for purchase
Jan 31 08:13:37 <pigeons>	looks like colored coins is your best bet for that, but i still don't think the bitcoin blockchain is the best place
Jan 31 08:13:55 <gesell>	thanks for the rebase. time to dig into colored coin again
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Jan 31 08:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	gesell currently the prtoblem with bitcoin is that ther blocks are too small to contain the transactions
Jan 31 08:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure your bloatyblocks with messages in them would get dropped a liot.
Jan 31 08:24:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8936 @ 0.00066957 = 5.9833 BTC [-]
Jan 31 08:24:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00067202 = 6.9218 BTC [+]
Jan 31 08:24:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 314 @ 0.00067342 = 0.2115 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 08:27:12 <gesell>	reading the colored coin pdf https://bitcoil.co.il/BitcoinX.pdf
Jan 31 08:27:13 <gesell>	"As was widely suspected in the case of GLBSE and eventually turned out correct, the lack of track record and regulatory compliance exacerbate the risk of unclean shutdown, throwing asset issuers and holders to limbo."
Jan 31 08:27:25 <gesell>	anyone have a good reference on the history of GLBSE and its closure?
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Jan 31 08:27:57 <pigeons>	gesell: its been done to death
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Jan 31 08:28:17 <gesell>	in specific that point about "regultory compliance" id like to uncompress
Jan 31 08:28:23 <pigeons>	nefario is asked questions about regulation at a conference in london, he says "who cares, can't get me"
Jan 31 08:28:29 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 20
Jan 31 08:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8802 @ 0.00067342 = 5.9274 BTC [+]
Jan 31 08:28:31 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 31 08:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1438 @ 0.0006769 = 0.9734 BTC [+]
Jan 31 08:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 360 @ 0.00067691 = 0.2437 BTC [+]
Jan 31 08:28:39 <pigeons>	2 weeks later he says black helicopters are after him and he shuts everything down
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Jan 31 08:28:44 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 21
Jan 31 08:28:47 <gribble>	There are currently 4974.838 bitcoins offered at or under 21.0 USD, worth 104084.623608 USD in total.
Jan 31 08:29:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00066942 = 7.4306 BTC [-]
Jan 31 08:30:21 <gesell>	pigeons: funky
Jan 31 08:30:30 <gesell>	pigeons: black helicopters always get the best of us
Jan 31 08:31:15 <pigeons>	this was a few weeks after the SEC was investigating "bitcoin denominated securites"
Jan 31 08:31:32 <pigeons>	and they seemed more interested in glbse when interviewing folks than in pirateat40
Jan 31 08:31:39 <gesell>	yeah and everyone knows the SEC loves some black helicopters
Jan 31 08:31:49 <pigeons>	but there is no indication that there was any contact even with nefario by them
Jan 31 08:32:22 <gesell>	okay
Jan 31 08:33:34 <mircea_popescu>	guy just had a bad trip, ended up convinced "they're after him"
Jan 31 08:34:11 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140052.0 this is all sorts of funny
Jan 31 08:36:41 <gesell>	author of colored coin argues for using bitcoin blockchain is better than deploying a new chain due to security of pooled hashrate. other options given are subject to the long tail of adoption. also, still going through it, appears to focus on tie tokens to assets. the asset of a widgetA isnt so important to me as the reputation of the source (rx addr) for widgetA. So I have to contemplate how to use colored coin for reputation. but ignorin
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Jan 31 08:37:57 <pigeons>	there is some discussion on the ripple list last couple days on this, with intended application of seller reviews
Jan 31 08:39:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0234 = 0.234 BTC [-]
Jan 31 08:39:36 <gesell>	pigeons: will check it out. thanks
Jan 31 08:39:44 <gesell>	ripple threat on bitcointalk or somewhere else?
Jan 31 08:39:49 <gesell>	s/threat/thread
Jan 31 08:39:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 29 @ 0.0233 = 0.6757 BTC [-]
Jan 31 08:40:09 <jurov>	mjrIII, btw i just added calculator to coinbr options exercise screen, if you have bought any options you can click on Exercise and see the estimated yield.
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Jan 31 08:40:52 <jurov>	<mircea_popescu> [11:04:46] mjrIII bitfloor is a bitcoinica clone running stolen code <<< you confuse it with bitfinex, no?
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Jan 31 08:41:33 <pigeons>	gesell: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/rippleusers/zntNJxjwmUs
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Jan 31 08:43:17 <pigeons>	also see proposed OTC WoT v2 from #bitcoin-wot and privwiki.dreamhosters.com/wiki/Distributed_Web_of_Trust_Proposal_2
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Jan 31 08:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ow fuck!
Jan 31 08:45:16 <mircea_popescu>	sorry!
Jan 31 08:45:27 <gesell>	(the bible talks about a 1000  year reign of peace and tranquility. I wonder if in the end we will realize this is dependent on the dificulting of factoring 'n' into p and q)
Jan 31 08:46:11 <mircea_popescu>	since we're giving gesell reading lists, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/
Jan 31 08:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	esp. problem 3.
Jan 31 08:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	and unrelatedly : anyone starting any sort of business and naming it bit* bitcoin* or *coin IS AN IDIOT
Jan 31 08:47:15 <mircea_popescu>	i can't fucking keep track of them anymore, it's all a blur. plus when i go to type into the url bar i have to type an entire word!
Jan 31 08:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00067228 = 7.1262 BTC [+]
Jan 31 08:49:34 <gesell>	thanks mircea_popescu and pigeons
Jan 31 08:51:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00067228 = 16.2692 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 09:03:39 <mjr_>	in the analogy of bitcoin as cash...
Jan 31 09:03:48 <mjr_>	if your harddrive crashes
Jan 31 09:03:56 <mjr_>	you have destroyed currency...
Jan 31 09:04:09 <mjr_>	in other words, there are bitcoins which can never be spent at this point correct?
Jan 31 09:04:14 <kakobreklaa>	yea
Jan 31 09:04:21 <pigeons>	yes, i've contributed to them
Jan 31 09:04:36 <mjr_>	equivalent to gold in sunken pirate ships?
Jan 31 09:04:52 <pigeons>	in your imagination, sure why not
Jan 31 09:04:57 <kakobreklaa>	that gold can be found
Jan 31 09:05:16 <pigeons>	yeah easier to find the gold than the chance of guessing the key
Jan 31 09:05:21 <mjr_>	no i know
Jan 31 09:05:27 <mjr_>	my point was not to try and find this
Jan 31 09:05:36 <mjr_>	but in how it would affect the scarcity of bitcoins
Jan 31 09:05:44 <pigeons>	not much effect really
Jan 31 09:05:48 <mjr_>	since everyone and there mom throws around the 21 million number
Jan 31 09:05:58 <kakobreklaa>	its preety scarse as is
Jan 31 09:06:03 <mjr_>	it is
Jan 31 09:06:14 <mjr_>	just curious what effect if any that would have
Jan 31 09:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2383 @ 0.00066942 = 1.5952 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10867 @ 0.00066624 = 7.24 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:06:24 <kakobreklaa>	so loosing a million coins out of 20 wont do much
Jan 31 09:06:31 <jurov>	lol i realized if some tards succeed to get btc recognized as currency, they can be prosecuted for debasement whenever their hdd crashes without backups
Jan 31 09:06:33 <mjr_>	joker style...it's about sending a message <takes hammer to hard drive>
Jan 31 09:07:18 <mjr_>	jurov: you mean debasement as in melting down US coins? Cuz you are actually increasing the average value i would imagine
Jan 31 09:07:41 <kakobreklaa>	yea
Jan 31 09:07:41 <jurov>	yes, i mean it as law understands it
Jan 31 09:07:48 <kakobreklaa>	one should get paid to destroy coins
Jan 31 09:08:02 <mjr_>	some men just want to see the world burn
Jan 31 09:10:14 <mjr_>	so frustrated with banking right now
Jan 31 09:10:24 <mjr_>	2 days to link account, 2 days to transfer
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Jan 31 09:14:01 <error4733>	+9K since the last dooglus update for S.DICE. 20K for January
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Jan 31 09:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6433 @ 0.00066624 = 4.2859 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3951 @ 0.00066611 = 2.6318 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9812 @ 0.00066611 = 6.5359 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4088 @ 0.00066566 = 2.7212 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 09:17:37 <error4733>	8h  if you want a piece of dividends !! 10K S.DICE = 2BTC   @15h15UTC
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Jan 31 09:19:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.007261 = 1.4522 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:19:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00726 = 2.178 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1255 @ 0.00705825 = 8.8581 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1145 @ 0.00705422 = 8.0771 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	<mjr_> since everyone and there mom throws around the 21 million number << that number will be reached sometime in 2150
Jan 31 09:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 they may be a little late rthan midnight
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Jan 31 09:24:21 <thestringpuller>	do you expect to be alive in 2150 mircea_popescu ?
Jan 31 09:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea
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Jan 31 09:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	tho life expectancy has been mostly growing faster than my age for the past decades.
Jan 31 09:25:11 <pigeons>	what is the bitbet.us link to if mircea_popescu lives to 2150?
Jan 31 09:25:22 <pigeons>	what are the current odds
Jan 31 09:25:59 <jurov>	i suspect not very high. over time there will be enough ppl willing to assassinate him
Jan 31 09:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	you can't bet on people dieing omg
Jan 31 09:26:50 <error4733>	yes u cant, in UK
Jan 31 09:27:12 <error4733>	tons on queen death every year
Jan 31 09:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	actually teh number of people willing to assasinate me is probably towards the lowest historical point atm
Jan 31 09:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	im only pissing off a buncha pasty ass computer geeks currently.
Jan 31 09:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	that's significant downstep for me
Jan 31 09:30:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00066748 = 3.0704 BTC [+]
Jan 31 09:31:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.3351 = 5.0265 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:31:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.3301 = 0.6602 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:31:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:31:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.33 = 1.65 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:32:06 <pigeons>	hmm i wonder is BASIC-MINING intended to mine with bASICs
Jan 31 09:33:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.3399 = 1.0197 BTC [+]
Jan 31 09:33:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
Jan 31 09:33:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00066748 = 12.0814 BTC [+]
Jan 31 09:34:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066748 = 6.6748 BTC [+]
Jan 31 09:35:09 <kakobreklaa>	https://blockchain.info/charts/my-wallet-n-users
Jan 31 09:35:31 <kakobreklaa>	new year breaks the line about.
Jan 31 09:35:46 <kakobreklaa>	quite insane
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Jan 31 09:38:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4887 @ 0.00066566 = 3.2531 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:38:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00066478 = 3.7228 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa mpex new accts looks similar.
Jan 31 09:38:59 <kakobreklaa>	chart it.
Jan 31 09:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	mm
Jan 31 09:39:11 <pizzaman1337>	how many accounts are there?
Jan 31 09:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	brb
Jan 31 09:40:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 89 @ 0.0091 = 0.8099 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 09:41:19 <gesell>	"(15:26:46) mircea_popescu: you can't bet on people dieing omg"  seriously? isnt this why bitcoin was created in the first place  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell
Jan 31 09:42:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 20 @ 0.0092 = 0.184 BTC [+]
Jan 31 09:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3908 @ 0.00066401 = 2.595 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:44:40 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: how often does the mpex RSS update. not showing a lot of recent trades
Jan 31 09:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess every time you reload it ?
Jan 31 09:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	3`908 S.MPOE @0.00066401 i see as most recent one.
Jan 31 09:46:05 <gesell>	no i meant is there a delay from the values showing up here and showing up on the rss
Jan 31 09:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	shouldn't be.
Jan 31 09:46:19 <gesell>	okay, my client then
Jan 31 09:46:20 <gesell>	thanks
Jan 31 09:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	at least hacven't received any complaints on the matter so far.
Jan 31 09:47:30 <kakobreklaa>	yeah rss thats a fail protocol
Jan 31 09:47:41 <kakobreklaa>	which remembers me i promissed some dude ill add it to bitbet
Jan 31 09:47:43 <kakobreklaa>	fuck.
Jan 31 09:49:41 <jurov>	well, live.coinbr uses rss. but so far i did not notice missing trades there
Jan 31 09:51:45 <jurov>	btw, is the assapi public? i mean, mpex side of it
Jan 31 09:52:20 <kakobreklaa>	doesnt work that way
Jan 31 09:52:42 <kakobreklaa>	exchanges get access to url to push trades in
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Jan 31 09:53:47 <jurov>	hmmm.. and when assbot fails,are they queued?
Jan 31 09:53:51 <kakobreklaa>	ya
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Jan 31 09:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00066401 = 5.0465 BTC [-]
Jan 31 09:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.759 = 4.554 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 10:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2443 @ 0.00066401 = 1.6222 BTC [-]
Jan 31 10:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7307 @ 0.00066383 = 4.8506 BTC [-]
Jan 31 10:05:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5613 @ 0.00066432 = 3.7288 BTC [+]
Jan 31 10:05:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5087 @ 0.00066748 = 3.3955 BTC [+]
Jan 31 10:06:32 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: I have a present for you in your mailbox :)
Jan 31 10:06:42 <pizzaman1337>	or something like that...
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Jan 31 10:13:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00066383 = 2.9209 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 10:17:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12053 @ 0.00066748 = 8.0451 BTC [+]
Jan 31 10:17:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 760 @ 0.00067067 = 0.5097 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 10:27:34 <gesell>	bleh, 21
Jan 31 10:28:13 <gesell>	i want to understand, but cant. not that im complaining
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Jan 31 10:32:49 <smickles>	wow
Jan 31 10:33:32 <smickles>	it's like the market was brainwashed with the phrase 'another day, another dollar'
Jan 31 10:36:22 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Jan 31 10:36:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.85001, Best ask: 20.90999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05998, Last trade: 20.85001, 24 hour volume: 67820.77842782, 24 hour low: 19.39660, 24 hour high: 20.97000, 24 hour vwap: 20.09227
Jan 31 10:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-paid-accounts/
Jan 31 10:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 31 10:39:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.95000, Best ask: 21.00110, Bid-ask spread: 0.05110, Last trade: 21.00111, 24 hour volume: 70551.15359422, 24 hour low: 19.39660, 24 hour high: 21.00111, 24 hour vwap: 20.12700
Jan 31 10:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	another minute another dime more like it.
Jan 31 10:40:04 <BingoBongo>	Glad I took this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/175/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-14-88-and/
Jan 31 10:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly.
Jan 31 10:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	i considered it but passed. my loss.
Jan 31 10:42:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.749 = 3.745 BTC [-]
Jan 31 10:43:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00705423 = 1.4108 BTC [+]
Jan 31 10:43:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 155 @ 0.00705422 = 1.0934 BTC [-]
Jan 31 10:45:13 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you really like to use those charts now, eh?
Jan 31 10:45:54 <BingoBongo>	;;ticker
Jan 31 10:45:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.22165, Best ask: 21.26343, Bid-ask spread: 0.04178, Last trade: 21.26343, 24 hour volume: 71060.56862533, 24 hour low: 19.40450, 24 hour high: 21.26343, 24 hour vwap: 20.14486
Jan 31 10:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	smickles which ?
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Jan 31 10:51:05 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Jan 31 10:51:06 <gribble>	20.12
Jan 31 10:51:16 <kakobreklaa>	thanks for the chart mp
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Jan 31 10:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	yee
Jan 31 10:56:04 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh, i was confused. I thought that blockchain chart was one of those thinkercharts you used earlier
Jan 31 10:56:13 <mircea_popescu>	a no
Jan 31 10:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	but those ARE really cool
Jan 31 10:56:46 <smickles>	oh, hey. is ther rota dead to the point that it shouldn't be mentioned in new contracts as the dispute resolution method?
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Jan 31 10:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	smickles well it's only dead to the point that i wouldn't currently trust it with a case involving my or mpex's interests
Jan 31 10:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	if you want to go on a limb with it, by all means.
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Jan 31 11:02:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00066486 = 3.5902 BTC [-]
Jan 31 11:02:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4473 @ 0.00066912 = 2.993 BTC [+]
Jan 31 11:02:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77 @ 0.00066951 = 0.0516 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 11:06:14 <smickles>	so if it's at or near 30 tomorror, probaby time to buy some puts or somehting
Jan 31 11:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	it does look bubbly.
Jan 31 11:10:08 <BingoBongo>	Well, Thursday was the day last week for a spike followed by "This is moving too fast" sobriety
Jan 31 11:10:28 <BingoBongo>	;;ticker
Jan 31 11:10:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.80001, Best ask: 20.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 20.90996, 24 hour volume: 72209.06640419, 24 hour low: 19.40450, 24 hour high: 21.30000, 24 hour vwap: 20.22626
Jan 31 11:10:55 <thestringpuller>	i read in fortune in 2011: we dont know of it is a bubble until it pops
Jan 31 11:12:13 <thestringpuller>	so is this really a bubble?
Jan 31 11:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/mXGnpvK.png
Jan 31 11:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	this image is so humorous
Jan 31 11:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller by the time you're buying it it will be
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Jan 31 11:22:37 <smickles>	thestringpuller: generally, you cut losses and let profits ride, that's why, when you suspect a bubble, you don't sell all. you hedge your position
Jan 31 11:23:29 <smickles>	essentially, weaken future potential profits in order to preserver the current ones
Jan 31 11:24:59 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: do you see any new companies coming into the mpex fold? also i assume you just avoid including all the miner pools, correct?
Jan 31 11:25:18 <mircea_popescu>	miner pools aren't exactly companies.
Jan 31 11:25:18 <gesell>	by coming into the fold i mean, ipos
Jan 31 11:25:23 <gesell>	yeah
Jan 31 11:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	well, in principle yes.
Jan 31 11:25:50 <mircea_popescu>	in practice, good companies with revenue and market don't much want to list because why share your profits
Jan 31 11:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	and also why put up with idiots a la PsychoticBoy eskimoblob etc filling up the forum with nonsense
Jan 31 11:26:13 <gesell>	to support bitcoin, aggressive expansion (advertising)
Jan 31 11:26:16 <pizzaman1337>	so why did S.DICE list?
Jan 31 11:26:26 <gesell>	pizzaman1337: to cover their risks, and expansion
Jan 31 11:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 well, for multiplereasons. there's a lot of benefit to being listed as a dice site
Jan 31 11:26:54 <smickles>	lol, that image.. the "why did I get this?" link
Jan 31 11:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	because you can very convincingly argue you can afford to pay wins
Jan 31 11:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	so whales dare play.
Jan 31 11:27:32 <smickles>	it links to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw
Jan 31 11:27:42 <PsychoticBoy>	<mircea_popescu> and also why put up with idiots a la PsychoticBoy eskimoblob etc filling up the forum with nonsense<< LOL
Jan 31 11:27:49 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: is any part of the process and application for ipos public, posted as news, by you or them? or is it pretty much until it happens. i mean, even knowing when a new company will release ipos there might be a nice way to get an alert
Jan 31 11:27:56 <PsychoticBoy>	Go back to your trailer
Jan 31 11:28:16 <mircea_popescu>	gesell http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/how-does-one-list-on-mpex/
Jan 31 11:28:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00066951 = 7.5989 BTC [+]
Jan 31 11:29:26 <DeadWeasel>	I don't think bitcoin needs 'aggressive expansion'.
Jan 31 11:29:31 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: yeah that is the means for exploring signing up with you. im just curious if investors can get a headsup when this starts, or at least when its going to happen. rather than just refreshing the mpex website all the time
Jan 31 11:29:45 <DeadWeasel>	it has momentum.
Jan 31 11:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	gesell in general ipos are announced in advance. were you around during the bbet ipo ?
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Jan 31 11:30:46 <gesell>	no, i wasnt. left the scene for a while until dec last year
Jan 31 11:30:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12423 @ 0.00066951 = 8.3173 BTC [+]
Jan 31 11:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2177 @ 0.00067067 = 1.46 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 11:31:15 <gesell>	where do you anounce, on blog (with a certain category i can monitor) or here, or twitter, or?
Jan 31 11:31:18 <mircea_popescu>	ok, so, site was opened for beta, it was announced it will ipo in 5 days,
Jan 31 11:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	the details were available (contract was published)
Jan 31 11:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	and then on ipo day people just got their asks filled
Jan 31 11:31:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4956 @ 0.00066707 = 3.306 BTC [-]
Jan 31 11:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00066656 = 7.3655 BTC [-]
Jan 31 11:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3494 @ 0.00066647 = 2.3286 BTC [-]
Jan 31 11:32:06 <gesell>	where was it announced, blog and mpex site, that all?
Jan 31 11:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	in general i'll say something here and mpoe-pr will make an announcement on forum
Jan 31 11:32:14 <gesell>	sorry to get specific but id just like to monitor the progress
Jan 31 11:32:19 <gesell>	ok
Jan 31 11:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	course people are allowed to announce their ipo wherever they want
Jan 31 11:32:30 <mircea_popescu>	nothing wrong with being specific
Jan 31 11:32:45 <smickles>	aslo, it shows up on mpex.co, but you're unable to trade it
Jan 31 11:32:54 <gesell>	im just assuming there will be a day im not so active with bct and might only monitor once a month
Jan 31 11:32:59 <smickles>	'cause there're no sells yet
Jan 31 11:33:01 <gesell>	but there are certain things id like to know right away
Jan 31 11:33:08 <gesell>	such as new companies going public'ish
Jan 31 11:33:17 <mircea_popescu>	well, if anyone actually starts a real analyst service for btc finance
Jan 31 11:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	i suppose they might maintain an emergency mail list
Jan 31 11:33:52 <gesell>	yeah
Jan 31 11:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	it really boggles me that this isn't moving, the need for btc finance news is marked and yet... crckets
Jan 31 11:34:04 <mircea_popescu>	people make gemsites.
Jan 31 11:34:46 <gesell>	someone should just grab googles and others from the forum and cuddle them for a while, until eventually having such a service
Jan 31 11:34:57 <gesell>	goodles, whatever his name is
Jan 31 11:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	dooglus ?
Jan 31 11:35:19 <gesell>	the couple pay for btc financial analysis services seem like crap, that are out there at the moment
Jan 31 11:35:24 <gesell>	dooglus, yeah
Jan 31 11:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, he could do a fine job.
Jan 31 11:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	so tell him lol
Jan 31 11:35:57 <DeadWeasel>	problem is the forum isn't good new with so much trolling, and google pickups are too sparse.  but in time news should pick up enough.
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Jan 31 11:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel i imagine something like a blog would be great.
Jan 31 11:36:17 <smickles>	yeah, you don
Jan 31 11:36:23 <smickles>	't need to provide the service
Jan 31 11:36:33 <gesell>	S.dooglus
Jan 31 11:36:39 <smickles>	just build the organization which pays the the people who do
Jan 31 11:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	i think tbh, most people on mpex are btc addicts, reading it all multiple times a day
Jan 31 11:37:17 <smickles>	how hard is it to receive btc payments and pay employees/contractors/freelancers?
Jan 31 11:37:17 <DeadWeasel>	that would fit the definition of blog.  trolling and updated every 3 days or less
Jan 31 11:37:43 <gesell>	smickles: a spreadsheet?
Jan 31 11:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00066647 = 7.4311 BTC [-]
Jan 31 11:38:32 <smickles>	gesell: how much would you pay for a subscription to 'btc finance'
Jan 31 11:38:36 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: yeah feels like a lot of day traders around (or that type of fervant observation)
Jan 31 11:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	gesell i suppose the alternative would be to just invest in a fund, and let the manager worry about daily news
Jan 31 11:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	of course, due to the idiocy that was glbse, it will be a little while yet before people trust such funds
Jan 31 11:39:48 <smickles>	1 btc / month?
Jan 31 11:39:53 <gesell>	smickles: i'd expect it to cover options, dirivitives, cover some hot topics ("why 21 without huge influx of new users?", with data) and have code to pwn blockchain analysis. I'd pay a BTC a month at the moment
Jan 31 11:40:01 <gesell>	and im sure those with more money in the market would pay a lot more
Jan 31 11:40:27 <gesell>	also, consider that your "experts" will get requests from big players. you will note on the sdice analysis thread mr sdice asked two people for help in analysis privately
Jan 31 11:40:34 <gesell>	so you'll have consultancy on the side
Jan 31 11:40:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4450 @ 0.00651702 = 29.0007 BTC [-]
Jan 31 11:40:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00651712 = 10.1015 BTC [+]
Jan 31 11:40:58 <smickles>	ok, who would be willing to write these articles for .3 btc per article?
Jan 31 11:42:00 <gesell>	i think you just find the people doing it and pay them a little to do it as a collective. you guide them in how to give enough information publicly but have more privately. for example dougles could put half the detail he does on his analysis of sdice and still provide huge value publicly and the rest privately
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Jan 31 11:42:36 <gesell>	for example, was thinking about this today
Jan 31 11:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt you could get him to go for a scheme like that
Jan 31 11:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	struck me as a very open-source type.
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Jan 31 11:43:29 <gesell>	the analysis sdice is nice but i'd like to see someone reverse engineer the blockchain to try to determine the PRNG sdice is depending on, then explore potential weaknesses or just confirm there are none. Maybe show where in the history the PRNG changed. but thats more hacker type of analysis
Jan 31 11:43:33 <gesell>	to me they all mix though
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Jan 31 11:43:36 <smickles>	yeah, thing about dooglas, anyone could do that. so if you put up a pay wall, someone else will run the script publically
Jan 31 11:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea what prng is
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Jan 31 11:44:09 <gesell>	psuedo-number-random-generator
Jan 31 11:44:29 <gesell>	i dont know the internals yet but i assume the calculations on winning nubmers depend on some randomness
Jan 31 11:44:31 <smickles>	well, i have a hunch I could produce 1 article per day, if only I had the writers
Jan 31 11:45:01 <Bugpowder>	#WINNING
Jan 31 11:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	o hey Bugpowder :
Jan 31 11:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	"Pastebin dump of a letter from SEC sent to several people who ran "funds" on GLBSE. Forum statements about people calling the attorney on the letter and providing statements. Not clear if it was just elaborate trolling..."
Jan 31 11:45:12 <gesell>	im also assuming a PRNG is involved (/dev/random, etc)
Jan 31 11:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	you got that pastebin ?!
Jan 31 11:45:29 <mircea_popescu>	or did you mean the pirate thing
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Jan 31 11:45:36 <smickles>	it was the pirate thing
Jan 31 11:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	gesell it's not.
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Jan 31 11:45:52 <mircea_popescu>	the randomness for s.dice is provided by the blockchain itself.
Jan 31 11:46:23 <gesell>	yeah and extrapolate back to where bitcoin depends on a PRNG
Jan 31 11:46:32 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE back over 20,000 for the month
Jan 31 11:46:34 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Jan 31 11:46:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 49 @ 0.0069328 = 0.3397 BTC [+]
Jan 31 11:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	smickles there were rumours of some actual glbse investigation, i was never able to obtain anything whatsoever
Jan 31 11:47:11 <jurov>	;;asks 20.46
Jan 31 11:47:14 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 20.46 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 31 11:47:16 <Bugpowder>	I saw a paste bin thing
Jan 31 11:47:19 <Bugpowder>	that's it
Jan 31 11:47:22 <Bugpowder>	long time ago.
Jan 31 11:47:22 <jurov>	;;asks 21.46
Jan 31 11:47:25 <gribble>	There are currently 530.07335 bitcoins offered at or under 21.46 USD, worth 11327.2941393 USD in total.
Jan 31 11:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00724211 BTC [+]
Jan 31 11:47:30 <smickles>	Bugpowder: would you write articles about the btc finance world for a starting wage of .3 btc per article?
Jan 31 11:47:43 <Bugpowder>	me?
Jan 31 11:47:44 <Bugpowder>	no
Jan 31 11:47:50 <smickles>	dam
Jan 31 11:47:58 <mircea_popescu>	lmao smickles
Jan 31 11:48:10 <smickles>	you'd get raises proportional to the # of subscribers :D
Jan 31 11:48:14 <jurov>	bugpowder, i can throw in another 0.3
Jan 31 11:48:31 <smickles>	jurov: you can be a subscriber, i'm the boss here
Jan 31 11:48:32 <smickles>	:P
Jan 31 11:48:44 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: yeah i guess i should understand how sdice works
Jan 31 11:48:51 <mircea_popescu>	everyone wants to be an entrepreneur, nobody wants to do any work anymore
Jan 31 11:49:27 <smickles>	btw jurov, would you write articles for .3 btc each starting out ?
Jan 31 11:49:30 <smickles>	:)
Jan 31 11:49:54 <jurov>	maaybe somethign short. when i'm in mood
Jan 31 11:50:39 <Bugpowder>	I will tweet for 0.3BTC / tweet
Jan 31 11:50:42 <smickles>	it doesn't have to be long, just newsworthy or quality information
Jan 31 11:50:58 <gesell>	I'll retweet Bugpowder for 0.03btc
Jan 31 11:51:08 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder how many followers ?
Jan 31 11:51:11 <pigeons>	i pastebinned the letter i got from the sec, i verified it was from the sec, i know lots of people who talked with the sec and they wanted to know, "how did you get your glbse account?" "who promotes glbse?" etc
Jan 31 11:51:18 <smickles>	ok, what about 2.1 BTC per article?
Jan 31 11:51:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 499 @ 0.01 = 4.99 BTC [+]
Jan 31 11:51:35 *	jurov searches reddit furiously, saw some computer generated btc articles there
Jan 31 11:51:54 <jurov>	2.1BTC is much fairer game
Jan 31 11:52:13 <Bugpowder>	21.4
Jan 31 11:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	honestly, i think the only way that idea will work is owner-operated
Jan 31 11:52:29 <mircea_popescu>	as a sort of what's his name, the techcrunch guy.
Jan 31 11:52:48 <Bugpowder>	yeah you want to make money on the back end too
Jan 31 11:53:16 <gesell>	alright, important question... where are some ruby based exchanges... gonna go get me some bitcoin https://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2013-0333
Jan 31 11:53:28 <gesell>	(released TODAY)
Jan 31 11:53:28 <mircea_popescu>	gesell you're late.
Jan 31 11:53:32 <gesell>	oh???
Jan 31 11:53:34 <gesell>	:(
Jan 31 11:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	what AGAIN ?!
Jan 31 11:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	don't tell me ruby is blown wide open twice in three weeks
Jan 31 11:54:09 <gesell>	yeah this is in yaml JSON processing, and we know btc looooves them some JSON
Jan 31 11:54:11 <DeadWeasel>	and those are the KNOWN vulnerabilities
Jan 31 11:54:13 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, vircurex/cryptostocks got owned, bitfinex escaped through global disinterest.
Jan 31 11:54:18 <jurov>	gesell, what about php :D
Jan 31 11:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	there's plenty more on ruby. glbse escaped through being already dead.
Jan 31 11:54:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
Jan 31 11:55:10 <gesell>	actually, from people that k n o w, this new bug was based on the old one (https://community.rapid7.com/community/metasploit/blog/2013/01/09/serialization-mischief-in-ruby-land-cve-2013-0156) but HD Moore just missed it
Jan 31 11:55:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.0265 = 0.6625 BTC [+]
Jan 31 11:55:46 <pigeons>	bitcoin-central.net also
Jan 31 11:56:07 <smickles>	well, 10 subscribers per writer at 1btc per subscription means 1 article per week per writer. writers paid 2.1 btc per article, and a decent rake for the operator
Jan 31 11:56:14 <gesell>	whats gox on, btw?
Jan 31 11:56:27 <gesell>	(ruby, pyton, whitespace)?
Jan 31 11:56:37 <jurov>	it's in befunge
Jan 31 11:56:52 <DeadWeasel>	nobody gonna pay that.
Jan 31 11:57:20 <DeadWeasel>	owner operated with ad rev is your best bet
Jan 31 11:57:33 <jurov>	these "technical anal" dudes get paid quite nicely i heard
Jan 31 11:57:33 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Jan 31 11:57:56 <gesell>	whats technical anal? and ill try to avoid all the puns that come to mind
Jan 31 11:58:08 <smickles>	DeadWeasel: i think you're wrong, a few people have already said that they'd pay 1 btc per month
Jan 31 11:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	yup, networkd throughput over 30
Jan 31 11:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	this is a new record.
Jan 31 11:58:30 <jurov>	gesell http://blog.bitcoinwatch.com/ for example
Jan 31 11:58:34 <smickles>	gesell: technical analysis applied to bitcoin
Jan 31 11:58:45 <jurov>	many of them have closed paid newsletter
Jan 31 11:58:49 <gesell>	i really find that site stupid
Jan 31 11:59:06 <gesell>	it states the obvious and draws sime lines
Jan 31 11:59:31 <mircea_popescu>	i would say someone somewhere is hashing on asics
Jan 31 11:59:46 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,stats
Jan 31 11:59:50 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 211512 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 167 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 2 hours, 15 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3385331.85509049 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.557968114
Jan 31 12:00:03 <jurov>	and ddif goes down. yea.
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Jan 31 12:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	strange
Jan 31 12:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoincharts reports  Difficulty	2968775 Estimated	3111301 in 800 blks
Jan 31 12:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	the bot is way behind on the block count too
Jan 31 12:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	we're at 218944 currently.
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Jan 31 12:02:15 <smickles>	ok
Jan 31 12:02:21 <smickles>	I'm launching it
Jan 31 12:03:03 <smickles>	1btc per month, news and research on all the 'bitcoin assets'
Jan 31 12:03:14 <jurov>	i can write funny summary of happenings between ukto and burnside :D
Jan 31 12:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ^
Jan 31 12:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	also the two guys with the gem and gold bar
Jan 31 12:03:50 <jurov>	including the aftermath, they tend to come to me separately for a cookie and soothing word
Jan 31 12:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	ajahaha!
Jan 31 12:05:25 <smickles>	I think i can get dooglus to present information tailored to shareholders, rather than just the curious
Jan 31 12:05:59 <smickles>	*shareholders and potential investors, that is
Jan 31 12:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	so mazel tov
Jan 31 12:11:00 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Jan 31 12:11:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.25025, Best ask: 21.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12975, Last trade: 21.25000, 24 hour volume: 80777.74688070, 24 hour low: 19.42552, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.34921
Jan 31 12:12:09 <gesell>	does anyone know if exchanges operate their own bots. ive noticed bots responding to bids with <500ms delay to my bids on one exchange
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Jan 31 12:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5106 @ 0.00066647 = 3.403 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066384 = 2.8685 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4297 @ 0.00066383 = 2.8525 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7102 @ 0.00066299 = 4.7086 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:13:09 <gesell>	smickles: throw into it your monitoring of this channel and mpex. get share holder info automated where possible, have an article every month... a couple other pretty graphs. and your done
Jan 31 12:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	gesell which one ?
Jan 31 12:13:41 <gesell>	for instance, historical data of mpex might be usefull and not provided anywhere yet
Jan 31 12:13:59 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: bitcoin-24
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Jan 31 12:15:20 <gesell>	smickles: most of it could be public. for instance mircea's insight on pirate insider trading. but you could have comments to that private to subscribers
Jan 31 12:15:28 <gesell>	already with that you provide a nice community
Jan 31 12:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	eh, another bootstrap
Jan 31 12:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	didn't even know it existed.
Jan 31 12:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	19.7 ? srsly ?
Jan 31 12:16:56 <gesell>	smickles: mircea_popescu might even help you by giving you a dump of the historical trades ;)
Jan 31 12:17:07 <gesell>	bitcoin-24 is very close to mtgox price
Jan 31 12:17:15 <jurov>	i'll write a book "MPEx: The Missing Manual" and sell it for 10BTC. dead trees only.
Jan 31 12:17:19 <gesell>	they take no cover for trades
Jan 31 12:17:48 <gesell>	bitcoin-24 is only based on donations atm
Jan 31 12:18:21 <gesell>	scary as sht from the security perspective. but then again, maybe they their money by cherry picking trades via the backend and bots
Jan 31 12:23:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2926 @ 0.00066299 = 1.9399 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2772 @ 0.00066299 = 1.8378 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00066144 = 3.7371 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:27:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4378 @ 0.00066042 = 2.8913 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:28:33 <DeadWeasel>	I'll OCR that shit and sell it for 5BTC, of course I'll only sell one before it's a torrent, and we're both screwed.
Jan 31 12:29:02 <DeadWeasel>	How about someone writes a guide on how to handle their taxes when they have BTC?
Jan 31 12:29:05 <DeadWeasel>	I have no clue.
Jan 31 12:29:09 <DeadWeasel>	any pointers?>
Jan 31 12:29:17 <gesell>	then ill take the torrent, cut it up into tweet size segments, and embed it in the blockchain
Jan 31 12:30:09 <gesell>	man that message feature for the chain is gonna be a disaster some day
Jan 31 12:30:43 <gesell>	then again, maybe its exactly what moorse law needed
Jan 31 12:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Jan 31 12:30:56 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00065258 / 0.0006662 / 0.00067692 (1721184 shares, 1,146.66 BTC), 7D: 0.00061382 / 0.00067113 / 0.0007 (22322554 shares, 14,981.48 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065641 / 0.0007 (49935623 shares, 32,778.42 BTC)
Jan 31 12:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 666200 * 21.5
Jan 31 12:31:18 <gribble>	14323300
Jan 31 12:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	i win internets.
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Jan 31 12:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20122 @ 0.00066042 = 13.289 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:34:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 283 @ 0.00065946 = 0.1866 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:36:08 <JohnGalt1337>	you want to be the richest person in romania?
Jan 31 12:36:34 <gesell>	audios
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Jan 31 12:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00065946 = 2.7038 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Jan 31 12:41:32 <mircea_popescu>	jeez negative q4 gdp. they're fucked over there aren't they.
Jan 31 12:41:49 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder how's the indexes
Jan 31 12:44:17 <JohnGalt1337>	where negative? US?
Jan 31 12:45:16 <mircea_popescu>	ya'
Jan 31 12:45:58 <DeadWeasel>	can anybody point me to a guide on how to pay taxes on my BTCs?  Do I need to?
Jan 31 12:46:29 <DeadWeasel>	US here
Jan 31 12:46:42 <kakobreklaa>	dunno
Jan 31 12:47:04 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel you should prolly ask an accountant.
Jan 31 12:47:04 <JohnGalt1337>	http://i.imgur.com/36xaw6e.jpg
Jan 31 12:47:05 <kakobreklaa>	otc trade here is untaxed luckaly
Jan 31 12:47:26 <JohnGalt1337>	that should answer your question
Jan 31 12:47:39 <DeadWeasel>	it does.
Jan 31 12:47:46 <DeadWeasel>	well, they can't prove I own shit.
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Jan 31 12:47:51 <DeadWeasel>	so fuck'em
Jan 31 12:48:03 <JohnGalt1337>	somebody gifted it to you
Jan 31 12:48:37 <jurov>	your computed catched that bitcoin malware
Jan 31 12:49:21 <DeadWeasel>	you don't pay taxes when you buy whatever it is to play farmville, right?
Jan 31 12:49:33 <DeadWeasel>	or gold in WoW?
Jan 31 12:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	that;s about what i figure.
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Jan 31 12:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/
Jan 31 12:50:24 <mircea_popescu>	it's all in there.
Jan 31 12:50:24 <DeadWeasel>	how is it any different?
Jan 31 12:50:38 <DeadWeasel>	thx mp
Jan 31 12:50:40 <JohnGalt1337>	dunno about us tax code, but you have to tax any income but from games it is usally too small
Jan 31 12:51:20 <JohnGalt1337>	if it's under 20k you have it's meh, over that ask some tax advisor
Jan 31 12:51:28 <DeadWeasel>	and it's not income until you sell it, right?
Jan 31 12:52:18 <JohnGalt1337>	yes
Jan 31 12:52:40 <JohnGalt1337>	that's for sure, some countries may have fictive income
Jan 31 12:53:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.0217 = 0.1519 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:53:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 171 @ 0.0216 = 3.6936 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:53:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0215 = 0.215 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:53:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0213 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:53:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.021 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:53:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 150 @ 0.0202 = 3.03 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:53:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.0201 = 1.005 BTC [-]
Jan 31 12:56:42 <JohnGalt1337>	s.dice wants 1 confirm now?
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Jan 31 13:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	does it ?
Jan 31 13:06:34 <JohnGalt1337>	can't get an instant 2-figure bet
Jan 31 13:06:50 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Jan 31 13:07:17 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Jan 31 13:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	JohnGalt1337 possibly cause of your inputs ?
Jan 31 13:07:45 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Jan 31 13:08:03 <dub>	;;bc,diffchange
Jan 31 13:08:12 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Jan 31 13:08:22 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Jan 31 13:09:10 <dub>	decent uptick here http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-2k.png
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Jan 31 13:10:41 <mircea_popescu>	yah
Jan 31 13:10:58 <mircea_popescu>	definitely asics online.
Jan 31 13:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	33th thoroughput atm
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Jan 31 13:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006596 = 2.8501 BTC [+]
Jan 31 13:14:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 879 @ 0.00065946 = 0.5797 BTC [-]
Jan 31 13:22:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1241 @ 0.00668864 = 8.3006 BTC [-]
Jan 31 13:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 59 @ 0.00665746 = 0.3928 BTC [-]
Jan 31 13:24:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 5 @ 0.20602845 = 1.0301 BTC [+]
Jan 31 13:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 5 @ 0.23256963 = 1.1628 BTC [+]
Jan 31 13:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 5 @ 0.29273405 = 1.4637 BTC [+]
Jan 31 13:29:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11788 @ 0.00065946 = 7.7737 BTC [-]
Jan 31 13:29:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6363 @ 0.00065883 = 4.1921 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 13:37:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0074 = 0.0148 BTC [-]
Jan 31 13:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3937 @ 0.00065883 = 2.5938 BTC [-]
Jan 31 13:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00065725 = 8.84 BTC [-]
Jan 31 13:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14184 @ 0.00065669 = 9.3145 BTC [-]
Jan 31 13:38:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2829 @ 0.00065564 = 1.8548 BTC [-]
Jan 31 13:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1493791#msg1493791
Jan 31 13:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	so the hash increase is not asicminer.
Jan 31 13:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2394 @ 0.00066117 = 1.5828 BTC [+]
Jan 31 13:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5142 @ 0.00066223 = 3.4052 BTC [+]
Jan 31 13:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00066591 = 1.9311 BTC [+]
Jan 31 13:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 554 @ 0.00067067 = 0.3716 BTC [+]
Jan 31 13:46:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067103 = 2.8995 BTC [+]
Jan 31 13:46:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4839 @ 0.00067104 = 3.2472 BTC [+]
Jan 31 13:46:41 <kakobreklaa>	so bfl will be last of them all
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Jan 31 13:46:50 <kakobreklaa>	maybe they are having a drink with tom somewhere
Jan 31 13:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 31 13:47:51 <imsaguy>	You know who else was always cocky with the clients?  Pirate and that ended well.
Jan 31 13:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	i must confess, i am pretty blown away.
Jan 31 13:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	i had just about zero faith in any of them people producing working asic miners.
Jan 31 13:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	that two out of four would is like... wow.
Jan 31 13:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	course, it's still not cut and dried, the recent uptick in hashrate may well be people putting old gpus online cause of price increase
Jan 31 13:49:26 <imsaguy>	yes.
Jan 31 13:49:37 <mircea_popescu>	but if indeed they hash im wow'd.
Jan 31 13:49:43 <imsaguy>	price increase>difficulty increase
Jan 31 13:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy yea.
Jan 31 13:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00067103 = 2.0802 BTC [-]
Jan 31 13:50:03 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine with btc over 20 pretty much everyone turned on everything they could.
Jan 31 13:50:25 <imsaguy>	for a little while :)
Jan 31 13:51:35 <kakobreklaa>	;;ticker
Jan 31 13:51:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.19101, Best ask: 21.24999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05898, Last trade: 21.29900, 24 hour volume: 88825.09670330, 24 hour low: 19.51123, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.45318
Jan 31 13:52:00 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,convert eur
Jan 31 13:52:01 <gribble>	1 BTC = 21.29900 U.S. dollars = 15.7188192 Euros
Jan 31 13:52:19 <jurov>	just 0.04 from that bitbet bid... as if exactly calculated to keep the suspense
Jan 31 13:52:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol!
Jan 31 13:52:41 <jurov>	(disclosure: I have bet No)
Jan 31 13:53:18 <Bugpowder>	DeadWeasel, IANAL but a conservative position would be that any dividends or payments to you in bitcoin is considered income at the current exchange rate and should be reported.  Any price gains in bitcoin holdings would be treated as capital gains upon sale of the coins
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Jan 31 13:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the btc graph is copying your portofolio graph
Jan 31 13:54:21 <kakobreklaa>	infinitive loop then
Jan 31 13:54:24 <kakobreklaa>	were fucked
Jan 31 13:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya lol
Jan 31 13:54:44 <Bugpowder>	well
Jan 31 13:54:51 <Bugpowder>	my graph is accelerating
Jan 31 13:54:57 <Bugpowder>	as the calls go ITM
Jan 31 13:55:38 <kakobreklaa>	speed>9000
Jan 31 13:55:38 <imsaguy>	Where's the short squeeze when you need it?
Jan 31 13:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	tghere's no shorts to squeeze
Jan 31 13:56:02 <Bugpowder>	27
Jan 31 13:56:09 <Bugpowder>	29.9 is coming
Jan 31 13:56:14 <Bugpowder>	I hope
Jan 31 13:56:26 <Bugpowder>	the ask pyramid is pretty awesome
Jan 31 13:56:51 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu, you know as well as I do, that things won't run away forever
Jan 31 13:57:01 <imsaguy>	at some point, there is always a ceiling
Jan 31 13:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy sure. i don't even think it'll hit 30 tbh.
Jan 31 13:57:34 *	jcpham squeezes imsaguy
Jan 31 13:57:37 <imsaguy>	well, given your track record with asics, that means nothing.
Jan 31 13:57:42 <imsaguy>	jcpham, I'm pretty long ;)
Jan 31 13:57:53 <jcpham>	that's what the the ladies say about me too
Jan 31 13:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Jan 31 13:57:57 <jcpham>	think also
Jan 31 13:58:25 <mircea_popescu>	but even so, there's no shorts to squeeze.
Jan 31 13:58:35 <jcpham>	you can squueze my shorts
Jan 31 13:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	sounds scary jcpham
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Jan 31 13:59:42 <jcpham>	i'll make a video for you
Jan 31 13:59:53 <jcpham>	showing my shorts be squoze
Jan 31 14:00:02 <jcpham>	freshly squoze
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Jan 31 14:01:14 <Bugpowder>	uhooh
Jan 31 14:02:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/206/bitcoin-market-cap-above-1-billion-before-end/
Jan 31 14:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is a good one
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Jan 31 14:13:15 <jurov>	teology meets bitcoin:  http://dailyanarchist.com/2013/01/30/is-bitcoin-sharia-compliant/
Jan 31 14:13:33 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha o this title promises
Jan 31 14:14:17 <Bugpowder>	it probably is.
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Jan 31 14:14:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6106 @ 0.00067089 = 4.0965 BTC [-]
Jan 31 14:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	the article fails to deliver.
Jan 31 14:16:08 <DeadWeasel>	Bugpowder: that's what I expect.  Fortunately I've realized no gains as I've sold nothing.  I only hold BTCs, not assets, I'm here trying to figure out if I want to.
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Jan 31 14:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00689774 = 4.8284 BTC [+]
Jan 31 14:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00693297 = 7.6263 BTC [+]
Jan 31 14:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00698411 = 2.0952 BTC [+]
Jan 31 14:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00067089 = 10.3653 BTC [-]
Jan 31 14:18:20 <Bugpowder>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tax_compliance
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Jan 31 14:26:11 <mod6>	;;asks 25
Jan 31 14:26:14 <gribble>	There are currently 20903.827 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 479496.181721 USD in total.
Jan 31 14:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Jan 31 14:26:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.10002, Best ask: 21.21999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11997, Last trade: 21.21999, 24 hour volume: 89530.44568844, 24 hour low: 19.51123, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.47918
Jan 31 14:27:06 <mod6>	:D
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Jan 31 14:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5577 @ 0.00067089 = 3.7416 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 14:32:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00067104 = 10.938 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 14:46:33 <mod6>	It looks like it might run up to $25 though.  The word is out on coinz though.  My buddies keep blowing up my phone "OMG MOD6 MAKE US POKER SITE NOW!!!111"
Jan 31 14:47:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0074 = 0.74 BTC [-]
Jan 31 14:47:52 <mod6>	I mean these guys are not IT people or anything, just poker guys who are dying to play online again.
Jan 31 14:47:56 <mod6>	lol
Jan 31 14:49:35 <mod6>	gonna just have to get some seed money maybe to hire d00dz to help me with dev.  or clone myself 69 times.
Jan 31 14:50:26 <mod6>	anyway, we'll see.
Jan 31 14:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6311 @ 0.00067104 = 4.2349 BTC [+]
Jan 31 14:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21689 @ 0.00067228 = 14.5811 BTC [+]
Jan 31 14:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	poker site ?!
Jan 31 14:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	what's wrong with seals ?
Jan 31 14:51:55 <mod6>	ya! i told 'em about seals with clubs
Jan 31 14:51:58 <kakobreklaa>	micon.
Jan 31 14:52:18 <mod6>	haha. i dunno. i liked seals with clubs.
Jan 31 14:53:03 <mod6>	i played there a few times when coins were like $3
Jan 31 14:53:15 <mod6>	just checkin it out... you know?
Jan 31 14:56:26 <awkorama>	 mod6> so you are putting together an it team for poker site?
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Jan 31 14:59:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 30 @ 0.0091 = 0.273 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 15:03:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1551 @ 0.00067089 = 1.0406 BTC [-]
Jan 31 15:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3299 @ 0.00066114 = 2.1811 BTC [-]
Jan 31 15:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1221 @ 0.00067224 = 0.8208 BTC [+]
Jan 31 15:04:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6824 @ 0.00067228 = 4.5876 BTC [+]
Jan 31 15:05:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.0068976 = 5.5181 BTC [-]
Jan 31 15:05:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00724211 = 1.4484 BTC [+]
Jan 31 15:06:00 <mircea_popescu>	micon is marginally relevant. i mean, he's the site's stuffie. who cares whart he does ?
Jan 31 15:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	i'm just guessing it's a waste of effort to reimplement something that already exists and works.
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Jan 31 15:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	hm, is bitcointalk down ?
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Jan 31 15:07:10 <Diablo-D3>	oh dear lord
Jan 31 15:07:13 <Diablo-D3>	usagi is back again
Jan 31 15:08:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-]
Jan 31 15:08:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.685 = 4.11 BTC [-]
Jan 31 15:08:34 <rng29a>	mircea_popescu: it's very slow today
Jan 31 15:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	they gotta feed the hamsters some tobacco
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Jan 31 15:19:46 <mod6>	awkorama: well, I guess im gonna be meeting with some of these guys to see if they wanna put their money where their mouth is.
Jan 31 15:20:18 <mod6>	I'll let yall know what's up, I'm certainly gonna need dev help.
Jan 31 15:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 672 @ 0.00683849 = 4.5955 BTC [-]
Jan 31 15:20:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.3299 = 0.9897 BTC [+]
Jan 31 15:22:48 <EskimoBob>	mod6: what are you building?
Jan 31 15:24:27 <mod6>	Well, from what it sounds like, they want something similar to Pokerstars
Jan 31 15:25:10 <mod6>	These guys were told about btc and poker a while ago but they blew it off.  Now they want to get their foot in the door.
Jan 31 15:26:01 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't mind listing a poker site if it were any good.
Jan 31 15:28:05 <dub>	hehe you're asking for it
Jan 31 15:28:35 <mod6>	i know huh?
Jan 31 15:29:19 <mod6>	well, these guys already have a firm foothold in legal gambling here in mn anyway.
Jan 31 15:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	that's always good.
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Jan 31 15:30:00 <mod6>	so... im not sure. gotta talk to 'em and see what makes sense. I think they're starting to see that BTC is the way of the future.  Imagine all of the old ladies and their iPad's playing slots at home...
Jan 31 15:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00067228 = 9.9497 BTC [+]
Jan 31 15:30:20 <mod6>	ding ding ding ding ding
Jan 31 15:30:54 <mod6>	but yeah, I'll really need the help with some of this stuff if they're serious.  I'll let you guys know more when I do :)
Jan 31 15:31:15 <error4734>	something big it's going on ;)
Jan 31 15:31:45 <error4734>	*for poker in BTC
Jan 31 15:33:03 <dub>	what we need is a big hack, gox would do
Jan 31 15:33:53 <error4734>	something big is going on for hacking in BTC !
Jan 31 15:34:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1281 @ 0.00668006 = 8.5572 BTC [-]
Jan 31 15:34:17 <mod6>	well, hacks come and go.  they're there to remind us to secure our BTC properly, right?
Jan 31 15:34:33 <error4734>	yep 100%
Jan 31 15:34:53 <error4734>	it's good is just for small change
Jan 31 15:34:59 <error4734>	just a big warning
Jan 31 15:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	actually im curious what's the next big drama
Jan 31 15:35:22 <mircea_popescu>	the asic stuff kinda getting stale
Jan 31 15:35:27 <mod6>	I thought it was gonna be the asics too.
Jan 31 15:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	we need a strategic diversion before they blow up as scams
Jan 31 15:35:37 <error4734>	why always drama.. :)
Jan 31 15:35:38 <dub>	im guessing its evorhees getting gitmo'd
Jan 31 15:35:53 <dub>	him or that mircea_popescu guy
Jan 31 15:35:54 <mod6>	let us srsly hope not.
Jan 31 15:36:19 <error4734>	huhuhuhu
Jan 31 15:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	im not that drama worthy am i
Jan 31 15:36:26 <error4734>	they are the same personn
Jan 31 15:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	bah. why doesn't anyone think erik is mpoe-pr instead!
Jan 31 15:36:58 <mircea_popescu>	why does everyone think everyone's me
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Jan 31 15:37:29 <error4734>	because it's a dog
Jan 31 15:38:27 <error4734>	http://mpex.co/faq.html
Jan 31 15:38:37 <mircea_popescu>	what's a dog
Jan 31 15:38:59 <error4734>	srsly, how much beer do you drink before writting this FAQ ?
Jan 31 15:39:20 <error4734>	or how many  țuică
Jan 31 15:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00066191 = 5.4939 BTC [-]
Jan 31 15:40:41 <jurov>	apparently im using blockchain.info too much.. they just shown me windows xp boot gif instead
Jan 31 15:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	error4734 you ever seen a better faq ?
Jan 31 15:42:43 <error4734>	No...
Jan 31 15:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	so then alcohol blood content .1337
Jan 31 15:44:49 <error4734>	but tmrw if some1 want to put 2M$ on table, idk if he'll thinks like me
Jan 31 15:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	if he doesn't he's free to go get himself scammed and learn the hard way.
Jan 31 15:46:46 <jurov>	he can use coinbr, then :DDD
Jan 31 15:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	do you even have a faq ?
Jan 31 15:48:08 <jurov>	http://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/frequently-asked-questions/
Jan 31 15:48:27 <dub>	do you even faq bro?
Jan 31 15:48:33 <mod6>	haha
Jan 31 15:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Jan 31 15:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	a forum ?
Jan 31 15:50:01 <jurov>	yes. much better one then btctalk
Jan 31 15:50:20 <jurov>	but they came late i think
Jan 31 15:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	tbh at this point bitcointalk is irreplaceable.
Jan 31 15:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	i could do five simultaneous master's degrees on it
Jan 31 15:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	all related to "wisdom" of crowds
Jan 31 15:51:57 <jurov>	;;ticker
Jan 31 15:51:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.09991, Best ask: 21.16990, Bid-ask spread: 0.06999, Last trade: 21.09991, 24 hour volume: 88274.64269609, 24 hour low: 19.51123, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.53304
Jan 31 15:52:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
Jan 31 15:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00066191 = 0.0662 BTC [-]
Jan 31 15:55:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2811 @ 0.00067228 = 1.8898 BTC [+]
Jan 31 15:55:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00067411 = 7.9882 BTC [+]
Jan 31 15:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8509 @ 0.00067487 = 5.7425 BTC [+]
Jan 31 15:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30 @ 0.00067507 = 0.0203 BTC [+]
Jan 31 15:58:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1514 @ 0.00666937 = 10.0974 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 15:59:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 886 @ 0.00669921 = 5.9355 BTC [+]
Jan 31 15:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1238 @ 0.00678949 = 8.4054 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 16:06:22 <jcpham>	crowd-source wisdom
Jan 31 16:08:38 *	burnside_afk is now known as burnside
Jan 31 16:08:47 <burnside>	<jurov> i can write funny summary of happenings between ukto and burnside :D
Jan 31 16:08:48 <burnside>	;)
Jan 31 16:09:12 <burnside>	we'll be best friends some day.
Jan 31 16:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	after you both fall in love for some girl.
Jan 31 16:09:59 <Ukto>	hopefully sooner
Jan 31 16:10:10 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: married w/ kids. so prolly not
Jan 31 16:11:26 <burnside>	ditto here.  haha
Jan 31 16:11:35 <EskimoBob>	lol, wtf is this, women beating sack shit, knows about love...
Jan 31 16:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like something that'd make a good luis de funes comedy by now.
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Jan 31 16:12:29 <EskimoBob>	burnside: I must say, your exchange is awesome.
Jan 31 16:12:45 <burnside>	thank you, it's a fun project
Jan 31 16:13:00 <EskimoBob>	what are your long term plans?
Jan 31 16:13:12 <burnside>	make it better
Jan 31 16:13:14 <burnside>	;)
Jan 31 16:13:16 <EskimoBob>	:)
Jan 31 16:13:22 <awkorama>	which one is it ?
Jan 31 16:13:30 <burnside>	btct.co/litecoinglobal.com
Jan 31 16:13:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00067507 = 8.5059 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:13:55 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: like your exchange too but this BTC blah, one has to sends coins to, ha to go
Jan 31 16:14:12 <EskimoBob>	btw, your charts are better because mouse-over actually shows some data
Jan 31 16:14:26 <burnside>	yeah, I love the bitfunder charts
Jan 31 16:14:28 <EskimoBob>	"has to go"
Jan 31 16:14:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.16602013 BTC [-]
Jan 31 16:14:57 <EskimoBob>	burnside: but the libs/engine is available for free
Jan 31 16:15:02 <EskimoBob>	why not use it
Jan 31 16:15:13 <burnside>	I used that same engine for charts on a previous project
Jan 31 16:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	soo, anyone wanna recommend a good movie ?
Jan 31 16:15:42 <EskimoBob>	burnside: http://www.highcharts.com/ ?
Jan 31 16:15:43 <burnside>	I was graphing the weighted price per Mh on several of the leading mining assets on GLBSE using it
Jan 31 16:15:58 <EskimoBob>	mircea_popescu: hang yourself
Jan 31 16:16:10 <burnside>	got frustrated with a few things, went a different direction for btct
Jan 31 16:16:20 <EskimoBob>	get your last boner and and be dead for good
Jan 31 16:16:23 <burnside>	might end up going back, it'd be an easy swap
Jan 31 16:16:51 <EskimoBob>	cool, why not.
Jan 31 16:17:01 <EskimoBob>	but... fist...
Jan 31 16:17:08 <burnside>	right now?  just because there are higher priority (read: more fun) things to work on
Jan 31 16:17:17 <EskimoBob>	fist, can you fix the market data tables :)
Jan 31 16:17:22 <burnside>	lol
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Jan 31 16:19:01 <EskimoBob>	Oh looks, someone made me a 37 ltc present
Jan 31 16:19:40 *	Ukto sighs
Jan 31 16:19:47 <Ukto>	stupid carriers using stupid equipment
Jan 31 16:20:03 <burnside>	cogent?
Jan 31 16:20:06 <EskimoBob>	actually, not to me but to ART
Jan 31 16:20:11 <Ukto>	trying to turn up another gige, and their brocade XMR is being stupid over port negotiation
Jan 31 16:20:50 <burnside>	we've had good luck with brocade, but don't use them for transit, only internal switching and load balancing
Jan 31 16:20:52 <dub>	floundry'd
Jan 31 16:20:58 <Ukto>	dub: yup
Jan 31 16:21:34 *	dub was up at 3 this morning talking to brocade
Jan 31 16:21:43 <Ukto>	one gige on one module/port is fine. they just shippd a newer model card out for our latest gige, and it wont turn up. apparently there is a firmware bug effecting the newer card.
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Jan 31 16:22:00 <burnside>	ugh, nightmare.  :(
Jan 31 16:22:02 <Ukto>	which means HE.net has to do a full firmware upgrade on that core router
Jan 31 16:22:13 <Bowjob>	ooh, dice is bak
Jan 31 16:22:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2118 @ 0.00067507 = 1.4298 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:22:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15532 @ 0.00067536 = 10.4897 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.16599164 BTC [-]
Jan 31 16:22:18 <Ukto>	I told them "that, or just overnight another older module"
Jan 31 16:22:45 <burnside>	prolly bunch of 'em on ebay
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Jan 31 16:23:25 <Ukto>	spent the last week trying to get this port up, to be told its our side the entire time, yet the port works fine with L3/GBLX, nLayer, Equinix's switching fabric, and our own internal stuff.
Jan 31 16:23:41 <Ukto>	Configing cisco is not hard. speed neg, or noneg.
Jan 31 16:24:14 <burnside>	now ya know why he
Jan 31 16:24:17 <burnside>	is cheaper
Jan 31 16:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob was it offline ?
Jan 31 16:24:58 <Ukto>	They have a rock solid network
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Jan 31 16:25:09 <Bowjob>	No, I mean the profits.
Jan 31 16:25:11 <Bowjob>	that was quick
Jan 31 16:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Jan 31 16:25:16 <Bowjob>	that whale got slaughtered
Jan 31 16:25:17 <burnside>	I love their free ipv6 tunneling service
Jan 31 16:25:32 <Ukto>	Besides, being a firmware issue, I can understand their expectancy the issue being on my side
Jan 31 16:25:36 <kakobreklaa>	sd profits... as stable as usd/btc.
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Jan 31 16:25:41 <Ukto>	same for brocade, simple commands to configure a port.
Jan 31 16:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol kakobreklaa
Jan 31 16:26:20 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Jan 31 16:26:20 <burnside>	yeah, not the behavior you'd expect for sure, definitely not something you'd think would require firmware updates
Jan 31 16:26:25 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: lolrouters
Jan 31 16:26:33 <Ukto>	wtf. did gox just frop from 21.14 to 20.82? x.x
Jan 31 16:26:37 <Ukto>	drop*
Jan 31 16:26:42 <Diablo-D3>	at least we're over 20
Jan 31 16:26:51 <Ukto>	for now.
Jan 31 16:26:54 <Ukto>	hopefully it will last
Jan 31 16:27:25 <Ukto>	burnside: besides, if its the carrier the cusomer chooses to pay for, I am happy making money on it. ;)
Jan 31 16:28:12 <Ukto>	EskimoBob: did you know you can drag-zoom on the graphs? ;)
Jan 31 16:28:34 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: he.net sucks dongs sometimes, btw
Jan 31 16:28:45 *	Ukto has been testing some newer updates the graph and some additional graphs
Jan 31 16:28:58 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: depends on where I think
Jan 31 16:29:07 <EskimoBob>	Ukto: no, I did not
Jan 31 16:29:09 <EskimoBob>	cool
Jan 31 16:29:22 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: which DC are you in?
Jan 31 16:29:26 <Ukto>	my HE stuff in Armster and euro work just as good as in dallas
Jan 31 16:29:31 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: Equinix, in all locations
Jan 31 16:29:38 <Diablo-D3>	oh man
Jan 31 16:29:39 <Ukto>	well, all my locaitons
Jan 31 16:29:43 <Ukto>	not in all of theirs lol
Jan 31 16:29:44 <burnside>	yeah, if the customer wants cheap bandwidth, no reason to not give it to 'em.  better to keep 'em happy and take a cut.
Jan 31 16:29:45 <Diablo-D3>	equinix is fucking expensive
Jan 31 16:29:53 <Ukto>	yes, yes they are
Jan 31 16:30:06 <kakobreklaa>	>>Yeah. The BTC-sphere is like in the meatspace: you may be punished just for pennies, but if you scam really big time you become Too Big To Jail. Learn the lesson and don't trust anyone ever more, especially the big fat fishes with super-hero rep.
Jan 31 16:30:12 *	EskimoBob is now known as EskimoBob_afk
Jan 31 16:30:14 <kakobreklaa>	fuck i need to scam one or two to lower my rating
Jan 31 16:30:14 <Ukto>	i hate having to pay $200 to have them do a hard loopback in other countries jsut to test a fiber
Jan 31 16:30:24 <kakobreklaa>	cant get any biz with perfect grade anymore!
Jan 31 16:30:41 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: I dont trust anyone, to be honest
Jan 31 16:30:46 <Diablo-D3>	DMC 2.0 will have a new rule
Jan 31 16:30:50 <Diablo-D3>	no investing in other bitcoin companies
Jan 31 16:30:51 <Diablo-D3>	period
Jan 31 16:30:56 <kakobreklaa>	DMC2.0 rule: dont trust diablo
Jan 31 16:31:00 <Diablo-D3>	not even asicminer, the only successful bitcoin company ever
Jan 31 16:31:05 <EskimoBob_afk>	kakobreklaa: I can help you with that, if you need :)
Jan 31 16:31:05 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: trusting me isnt the issue
Jan 31 16:31:08 <Ukto>	other companies non-bitcoin related can be just as bad
Jan 31 16:31:18 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: hell, Im paying out of my own pocket to deal with this shit, and Im permabroke
Jan 31 16:31:27 <Ukto>	the only think you can trust a bank to do, is win
Jan 31 16:31:28 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 31 16:31:30 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: at least them you can sue
Jan 31 16:31:32 <EskimoBob_afk>	Diablo-D3: you can only invest in LTC co's :)
Jan 31 16:31:33 <kakobreklaa>	Diablo-D3 deal with what shit
Jan 31 16:31:41 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: nefario's bullshit
Jan 31 16:31:57 <kakobreklaa>	and how much did it cost you out of your pocket so far?
Jan 31 16:32:13 <EskimoBob_afk>	Diablo-D3: how can you be broke if you are a programmer (and not a shitty one, if I recall)?
Jan 31 16:32:41 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob_afk: because I usually dont take programming jobs
Jan 31 16:32:41 <kakobreklaa>	its preety hard to go broke with a deflationary bitcoin
Jan 31 16:32:47 <EskimoBob_afk>	pm me your CV and hourly rate. I'll get you some work. I have to go now
Jan 31 16:33:03 <EskimoBob_afk>	ok, never mind then. be broke, if you like
Jan 31 16:33:13 <EskimoBob_afk>	nothing wrong with that
Jan 31 16:33:16 <jcpham>	hello
Jan 31 16:33:22 <jcpham>	how are you today EskimoBob_afk
Jan 31 16:33:28 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: I have about 240 btc in my wallet thus far
Jan 31 16:33:36 <EskimoBob_afk>	jcpham: well, like always
Jan 31 16:33:37 <jurov>	kakobreklaa i can re-rate you for the fsa stuff, no problem
Jan 31 16:33:42 <jcpham>	damn Diablo-D3 is ballin'
Jan 31 16:33:51 <jcpham>	nice EskimoBob_afk
Jan 31 16:33:56 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: which is better than the 0 that nefario left us.
Jan 31 16:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00066923 = 2.1415 BTC [-]
Jan 31 16:34:12 <Ukto>	wow.
Jan 31 16:34:16 <kakobreklaa>	Diablo-D3 how much did it cost you from your own pocket?
Jan 31 16:34:36 <Ukto>	my 7yr old son just came to me takling about plant vs zombies. and says "I wanna be a game designer when I grow up. You know what game I wanna make? Plant vs zombies 2"
Jan 31 16:35:20 <kakobreklaa>	tell him
Jan 31 16:35:23 <kakobreklaa>	hes gonna get sued
Jan 31 16:35:27 <mircea_popescu>	when did asicminer become successful to begin with ?
Jan 31 16:35:34 <Ukto>	I simply told him its already in the works
Jan 31 16:35:34 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 31 16:35:40 <Ukto>	his response was "Poopies!"
Jan 31 16:35:41 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: I could sell the 240 btc and not have to worry about money for awhile.
Jan 31 16:35:41 *	jcpham is now known as PotsiRewards
Jan 31 16:35:58 <kakobreklaa>	Ukto i thought it would be : "how about 3?"
Jan 31 16:36:20 <kakobreklaa>	Diablo-D3 wtf is this suppose to mean
Jan 31 16:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Jan 31 16:36:23 <Ukto>	hehe
Jan 31 16:36:31 <kakobreklaa>	that you are paying out of your pocket not to be a fuckin scammer
Jan 31 16:36:34 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: it means the 240 btc are out of my own pocket and will be spent on DMC.
Jan 31 16:36:47 <PotsiRewards>	poopies
Jan 31 16:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	investors have no pockets
Jan 31 16:37:02 <Ukto>	PotsiRewards: whats up with the nick?
Jan 31 16:37:16 <PotsiRewards>	u no like rewards
Jan 31 16:37:18 <PotsiRewards>	?
Jan 31 16:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	what;s a potsi
Jan 31 16:37:32 <Ukto>	its the cousin of a ponzi
Jan 31 16:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	like patsy ?
Jan 31 16:37:37 <Ukto>	same thing, just diff clothes :P
Jan 31 16:37:39 <jurov>	lmao i already got several times my initial btc investment back...
Jan 31 16:37:40 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: and remember, I also burned the shares I had in DMC as well
Jan 31 16:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	you had shares ?
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Jan 31 16:38:01 <Ukto>	burnside: do you think the avalons will start to make a dent in the mining assets value?
Jan 31 16:38:12 *	PotsiRewards is now known as PotsieRewards
Jan 31 16:38:16 <PotsieRewards>	my new company
Jan 31 16:38:20 <PotsieRewards>	very trust #1
Jan 31 16:38:32 <Ukto>	good enough for me, whre do I invest?
Jan 31 16:38:33 <Ukto>	;)
Jan 31 16:38:37 <mircea_popescu>	do you make asics PotsieRewards ?
Jan 31 16:38:38 <PotsieRewards>	exactly
Jan 31 16:38:43 <burnside>	Ukto, I'm it will.  I'm not sure how much, but the assets that don't have asic plans are going to get kind of ugly
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Jan 31 16:38:56 <PotsieRewards>	throw your money at the screen and watch it fall back in your lap
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Jan 31 16:39:05 *	PotsieRewards bigtime ASIC 
Jan 31 16:39:07 <Ukto>	PotsieRewards: 1 sec
Jan 31 16:39:13 <PotsieRewards>	no refunds
Jan 31 16:39:15 <PotsieRewards>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA50pZQRgYU
Jan 31 16:39:20 <Ukto>	WOOH, I just made $500!
Jan 31 16:39:27 <Bowjob>	how
Jan 31 16:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	i dont have any money. can i throw pate ?
Jan 31 16:39:33 <pigeons>	I am Mr. Messan Johnson Esq from Lome Togo. My new company very trust #1
Jan 31 16:39:34 *	Ukto put shis money back
Jan 31 16:39:44 <dub>	mircea_popescu: is it in a tube? :)
Jan 31 16:39:48 <Ukto>	Bowjob: was a jooke about throwing money at the screen
Jan 31 16:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's in a tin
Jan 31 16:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	says FRAENC
Jan 31 16:40:41 <PotsieRewards>	very trust #1 top rewards
Jan 31 16:40:45 <PotsieRewards>	send money now.
Jan 31 16:41:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135936054067.jpg ?
Jan 31 16:41:34 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: I mean, you can say what you want, but at least Im trying to fix it the best I can
Jan 31 16:41:50 <dub>	;;google FRAENC pate
Jan 31 16:41:51 <kakobreklaa>	hey im just trying to grasp whats happening
Jan 31 16:41:51 <gribble>	Foie gras - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras>; Pâté - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A2t%C3%A9>; Travel friendly Pate and Cheese - France - Chowhound: <http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/638149>
Jan 31 16:42:01 <PotsieRewards>	mircea_popescu u find pictures of my PR
Jan 31 16:42:10 <mircea_popescu>	which one of them ?
Jan 31 16:42:16 <PotsieRewards>	top trust rewards for early adopters
Jan 31 16:42:24 <dub>	my google bubble returns a bunch of crypto related links
Jan 31 16:42:24 <PotsieRewards>	legitimate
Jan 31 16:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	they don't look young enough t obe adopted PotsieRewards
Jan 31 16:42:34 <dub>	nothing pate related at all
Jan 31 16:42:34 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: the short of it is nefario in league with people issuing fake mining bonds to steal money from investors
Jan 31 16:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	dub was just dicking around with fake dyslexia.
Jan 31 16:43:07 <kakobreklaa>	Diablo-D3 how does taht affect you?
Jan 31 16:43:14 <kakobreklaa>	it shoudlnt
Jan 31 16:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	the nefario league!
Jan 31 16:43:25 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: DMC was renting mining power from these people
Jan 31 16:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3445 @ 0.00067536 = 2.3266 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00067596 = 9.5648 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20058 @ 0.00067626 = 13.5644 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6056 @ 0.0006769 = 4.0993 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2991 @ 0.00067691 = 2.0246 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:43:38 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: until we could afford to build the DC and install our own mining hardware
Jan 31 16:44:16 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: when glbse collapsed, two of these investments seem to have just walked away
Jan 31 16:44:21 <dub>	and windmills
Jan 31 16:44:49 <Ukto>	Fusion energy is the way to go
Jan 31 16:44:52 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: the third is asicminer which has not yet paid dividends yet (they should begin mining first week of feb)
Jan 31 16:44:59 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: solar and wind IS fusion energy.
Jan 31 16:45:07 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 31 16:45:14 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: why build fusion reactors when we're in orbit around a gigantic fusion reactor
Jan 31 16:45:22 <error4733>	+1
Jan 31 16:45:43 <Ukto>	hehe
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Jan 31 16:45:57 <pigeons>	what are the 2 that walked away
Jan 31 16:46:05 <Ukto>	I was working on a way to collect head from my DC and transform it into energy
Jan 31 16:46:09 <kakobreklaa>	solar is bullshit
Jan 31 16:46:29 <error4733>	why ?
Jan 31 16:46:36 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: btc-mining and btcmc
Jan 31 16:46:47 <error4733>	massive lobbing try to keep this idea true
Jan 31 16:46:49 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: and its not, its just that most people, such as yourself, simply does not understand solar
Jan 31 16:46:56 <burnside>	DC pumps out a ton of heat.  I wish I could just pump it to local houses or something, sell it somehow.
Jan 31 16:47:08 <Diablo-D3>	burnside: a DC doesnt NEED to pump out a lot of heat
Jan 31 16:47:10 <kakobreklaa>	Diablo-D3 i installed about 1 megawatt of solar power plants
Jan 31 16:47:15 <kakobreklaa>	Diablo-D3 how much did you
Jan 31 16:47:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00665746 = 10.3191 BTC [-]
Jan 31 16:47:22 <pigeons>	Diablo-D3: is this the same btc-mining that is now on btct.co?
Jan 31 16:47:23 <Diablo-D3>	kakobreklaa: only 1?
Jan 31 16:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00673464 = 12.1224 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 152 @ 0.00678949 = 1.032 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:47:38 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: yes, the same one namworld manages
Jan 31 16:47:47 <kakobreklaa>	Diablo-D3 yes, is that 1 more than you?
Jan 31 16:47:52 <burnside>	Diablo-D3, it does when a bunch of the boxes are mining coins. ;)
Jan 31 16:48:17 <burnside>	We're actually pretty green.  We cool with outside air 80% of the year
Jan 31 16:48:18 <pigeons>	what does namworld say about that? is he paying dividends over on btct?
Jan 31 16:48:20 <Diablo-D3>	burnside: DMC's DC was specializing in high density compute, bitcoin doesnt quite fit that definition
Jan 31 16:48:36 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: amazingrando basically fucked him and everyone else
Jan 31 16:48:54 <Ukto>	burnside: I ran dual redundant 400kva liebert ups at my last facility, had redundant megawatt feeds comming in. our usage peaked at about .7mw
Jan 31 16:49:03 <Ukto>	so we generated a lot of heat. ;)
Jan 31 16:49:11 <Bowjob>	20k profit for dice
Jan 31 16:49:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00067421 = 2.1912 BTC [-]
Jan 31 16:49:18 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: theres no dividends to pay because amazingrando isnt paying them out
Jan 31 16:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6199 @ 0.00067691 = 4.1962 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3251 @ 0.00067709 = 2.2012 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:49:40 <Diablo-D3>	burnside, Ukto: dmc was going to be doing rack densities of 25-30kw per rack.
Jan 31 16:49:42 <burnside>	haha, that is a ton of heat.
Jan 31 16:49:43 <pigeons>	thanks
Jan 31 16:49:58 <Ukto>	I designed a custom "green" handler for the heat. setup the heat flow to vent the heat out of the building, and in winter, sucked in cold air from the other side
Jan 31 16:50:16 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: thats called an air economizer, btw
Jan 31 16:50:21 <Ukto>	let me tell you, it cut down my chilled water bill like mad ;)
Jan 31 16:50:41 <Ukto>	building was a little annoyed tho
Jan 31 16:50:42 <burnside>	We had to do a custom gig too, the economizer unit for our air handler was going to be 10x what we could build ourselves.
Jan 31 16:50:59 <burnside>	10x $$ that is
Jan 31 16:51:01 <Ukto>	cause while I pushed my hot air out, and had my air handlers for the chilled water, I was sucking cold air in from the building. :P
Jan 31 16:51:08 <Ukto>	their engineer gave us permission. LOL
Jan 31 16:51:21 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: DMC was going to use a combination of air economizers and in row water chilling using hot aisle containment
Jan 31 16:51:36 <PotsieRewards>	top number one trust
Jan 31 16:51:38 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: honestly its overkill
Jan 31 16:51:43 <burnside>	haha, that's awesome.  feeding on the building hvac?
Jan 31 16:51:48 <Diablo-D3>	and then use on-site vertical geothermal pumps to pull up extra cold water
Jan 31 16:52:10 <burnside>	^^ I'd love to do
Jan 31 16:52:26 <Ukto>	I was using the badass APC cabinets
Jan 31 16:52:32 <Diablo-D3>	APC does make decent cabs
Jan 31 16:52:41 <Ukto>	and was talking with them about doing door based chilled cooling units
Jan 31 16:52:45 <Ukto>	but the cost
Jan 31 16:52:49 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: btw, what I said isnt overkill when you're doing 25-30kw per rack
Jan 31 16:52:49 <Ukto>	risk exposure
Jan 31 16:52:50 <Ukto>	etc
Jan 31 16:52:52 <Ukto>	wasnt worth it
Jan 31 16:53:01 <Diablo-D3>	the industry average is 2-4kw per rack, never filled to max
Jan 31 16:53:09 <Ukto>	what are you putting in the cabinets
Jan 31 16:53:10 <Ukto>	load testers?
Jan 31 16:53:12 <Ukto>	:P
Jan 31 16:53:17 <Diablo-D3>	whatever the customer wants
Jan 31 16:53:29 <Diablo-D3>	but most likely tightly packed blades and thumpers
Jan 31 16:53:33 <Ukto>	and your charging them $10~15k ?
Jan 31 16:53:56 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: probably $20k-$25k with all the power you need
Jan 31 16:54:25 *	Ukto has a cbainet full of the latest high end Dell blades. Only have 6kva. + 6 redundant
Jan 31 16:54:58 <Ukto>	lemme tell you, i had to push hard to get a good deal out of equix for it
Jan 31 16:55:07 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: Im being lazy, whats that in watts
Jan 31 16:55:47 <Ukto>	-_-
Jan 31 16:56:01 <Diablo-D3>	its not 6000.
Jan 31 16:56:02 <awkorama>	lol
Jan 31 16:56:09 <Ukto>	no
Jan 31 16:56:54 <Ukto>	4.8kW
Jan 31 16:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00706606 = 1.4132 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:57:13 <Diablo-D3>	you're only using that in the whole rack? wtf
Jan 31 16:57:50 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: btw, since the DC is in maine and we get ice cold weather 3 months of the year, and pretty chilly weather 6 months of the year
Jan 31 16:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13599 @ 0.00067709 = 9.2077 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:58:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3701 @ 0.00067745 = 2.5072 BTC [+]
Jan 31 16:58:07 <Diablo-D3>	it could be up to 3 months of AC not running
Jan 31 16:58:12 <Ukto>	hehe
Jan 31 16:58:22 <Diablo-D3>	just air economization and thats it
Jan 31 16:59:12 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: okay so, 4.8kw _the whole rack_ and its all blades top to bottom?
Jan 31 16:59:50 <Ukto>	The cab has 4 30amp 240v circuits
Jan 31 17:00:10 <Ukto>	2 A + 2 B
Jan 31 17:00:23 <burnside>	I wish we'd built out like that
Jan 31 17:00:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6191 @ 0.00067745 = 4.1941 BTC [+]
Jan 31 17:00:42 <Ukto>	ppl who dont use 240v loose money
Jan 31 17:00:48 <burnside>	10 yrs ago we thought 4x20A 120v per rack was insane
Jan 31 17:00:51 <Ukto>	so much more efficient
Jan 31 17:01:15 <burnside>	we're having to redo a lot of it now
Jan 31 17:01:21 <Ukto>	yup
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Jan 31 17:01:41 <Ukto>	my site used to allow up to 4x 30amp 240v primary
Jan 31 17:01:51 <Ukto>	24" raised floor
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Jan 31 17:02:11 <Ukto>	an 50ton leibert air handlers for chilled water lining the walls
Jan 31 17:02:11 <dub>	heh, relevant http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729024.500-keep-rainforests--they-drive-the-planets-winds.html
Jan 31 17:02:12 <burnside>	is your airflow in the floor?
Jan 31 17:02:24 <Ukto>	always
Jan 31 17:02:24 <dub>	wind != fusion
Jan 31 17:02:37 <Ukto>	save money by controling air needs
Jan 31 17:02:44 <Ukto>	if only half your facility is in use
Jan 31 17:03:01 <Ukto>	you use dampers to control airflow, and only put perpherated tiles where you need them
Jan 31 17:03:09 <Ukto>	if your pressure drops, you need to turn another unit on.
Jan 31 17:03:26 <burnside>	we did some math and didn't think the perforated tiles had enough surface area to cool the higher heat racks
Jan 31 17:03:35 <Ukto>	depends on design and use
Jan 31 17:03:57 <Ukto>	as I said, I was talking to APC abotu chilled cab doors
Jan 31 17:04:09 <Ukto>	and decided to do bottom tile-fed vented distributed doors
Jan 31 17:04:11 <Ukto>	that I had custom made
Jan 31 17:04:40 <Ukto>	so air was fed via the bottom cold side of the cabinet
Jan 31 17:04:53 <Ukto>	into a thin airshaft that ran up the door with air vents
Jan 31 17:04:54 <Diablo-D3>	[05:02:11] <Ukto> an 50ton leibert air handlers for chilled water lining the walls
Jan 31 17:05:02 <burnside>	sounds pretty good
Jan 31 17:05:02 <Diablo-D3>	yeah all that shit I hate
Jan 31 17:05:06 <Diablo-D3>	its so goddamned fucking inefficient
Jan 31 17:05:13 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: I agree
Jan 31 17:05:15 <Diablo-D3>	use hot aisle containment with in row chillers
Jan 31 17:05:18 <burnside>	what's the temperature differential between the bottom of the rack and the top?
Jan 31 17:05:20 <Ukto>	hence why I changed things
Jan 31 17:05:22 <Diablo-D3>	hot air goes right into the cooling units
Jan 31 17:05:35 <Diablo-D3>	burnside: a lot if you're doing shit wrong
Jan 31 17:05:36 <Ukto>	burnside: front side was a reverse design with intake fans
Jan 31 17:06:02 <Ukto>	so most heat was quickly removed and replaced with cold
Jan 31 17:06:14 <burnside>	I mean on the cold side, with it coming from the bottom up, did you see a wide swing in the intake temp on the servers at the top of the rack?
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Jan 31 17:06:20 <Ukto>	even the heavy loaded cabs maintained a high of 80degrees
Jan 31 17:06:37 <burnside>	nice, seems pretty good
Jan 31 17:06:43 <Ukto>	it wasnt that bad, about 4 degrees
Jan 31 17:06:56 <Ukto>	there were fans in the intake door at 2points
Jan 31 17:07:02 <Ukto>	so air would amke it all the way up
Jan 31 17:07:05 <Ukto>	ofc
Jan 31 17:07:08 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: btw, the cab mounted chillers I dont like
Jan 31 17:07:09 <Ukto>	this was optional to the customer
Jan 31 17:07:15 <Ukto>	they could choose to use the flow doors for free
Jan 31 17:07:16 <Diablo-D3>	they're too expensive and they're not redundant enough
Jan 31 17:07:18 <Ukto>	(which they always did)
Jan 31 17:07:24 <Ukto>	but the had to plug the fans into their own power
Jan 31 17:07:24 <Ukto>	;)
Jan 31 17:07:56 <Ukto>	never a had a customer who didnt want/use em lol
Jan 31 17:07:57 <Diablo-D3>	if you're using in row cooling, if one of that row's chillers dies, the other take up the slack
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Jan 31 17:08:20 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: umm, the system was fully redundant
Jan 31 17:08:29 <Ukto>	since I was basically n+3 units
Jan 31 17:08:35 <Ukto>	and you maintain pressure for the whole floor
Jan 31 17:08:36 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: I dunno, all the chillers Ive seen that replace the backdoors are still just one chiller unit
Jan 31 17:08:43 <Ukto>	yeah
Jan 31 17:08:47 <Ukto>	this wasnt a chllder door
Jan 31 17:08:52 <Diablo-D3>	oh
Jan 31 17:08:56 <Ukto>	i had custom doors machined
Jan 31 17:09:06 <burnside>	I think Diablo was referring to the APC units you decided not to use
Jan 31 17:09:21 <Ukto>	ah yeah, it was somethign they were talking about back in.. 2008?
Jan 31 17:09:21 <Diablo-D3>	burnside: I said in row, not In-Row(tm)
Jan 31 17:09:30 <burnside>	heh
Jan 31 17:09:41 <Diablo-D3>	yes, APC calls their in row shit In-Row(tm) its annoying
Jan 31 17:09:41 <Ukto>	not sure if they made them public, but were offered at enterprise levels
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Jan 31 17:09:57 <Diablo-D3>	they do make shit that glues to their APC cabs though
Jan 31 17:10:04 <Ukto>	0,o
Jan 31 17:10:08 <Diablo-D3>	back door and front door replacements that force feeds the rack
Jan 31 17:10:38 <Diablo-D3>	but it still takes up room in the goddamned row, its not a backdoor chiller assembly
Jan 31 17:10:56 <Diablo-D3>	its like a single rack hot aisle containment
Jan 31 17:10:58 <Diablo-D3>	its retarded
Jan 31 17:11:01 <Diablo-D3>	its on APC's site somewhere
Jan 31 17:11:03 <burnside>	I get the feeling that those get used a lot more at small business setups where they end up with a rack of gear in a 4'x4' closet.
Jan 31 17:11:07 <Ukto>	yeah
Jan 31 17:11:09 <Ukto>	its stupid
Jan 31 17:11:14 <Ukto>	it contains the hot air
Jan 31 17:11:21 <Ukto>	and when I asked about it
Jan 31 17:11:33 <Ukto>	they said your supporsed to contain, and colelct the hot air
Jan 31 17:11:38 <Ukto>	on a per hot isle basis
Jan 31 17:11:56 <Diablo-D3>	hot air containment works wonders, but that is NOT how its done
Jan 31 17:12:04 <Ukto>	yeah
Jan 31 17:12:28 <Diablo-D3>	we were going to have raised floors too, but only for the water
Jan 31 17:12:54 <Diablo-D3>	outside air vent shit and electricity and net was going to be overhead
Jan 31 17:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 257 @ 0.00706606 = 1.816 BTC [+]
Jan 31 17:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17953 @ 0.00067098 = 12.0461 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 17:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5197 @ 0.00067098 = 3.4871 BTC [-]
Jan 31 17:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11151 @ 0.00066923 = 7.4626 BTC [-]
Jan 31 17:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9702 @ 0.00066627 = 6.4642 BTC [-]
Jan 31 17:16:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 343 @ 0.00706606 = 2.4237 BTC [+]
Jan 31 17:17:26 <Bowjob>	would you guys say that s.dice is still a good investment @ 0.007xx
Jan 31 17:18:24 <PsychoticBoy>	it is pure speculation so it is what you can afford to lose
Jan 31 17:22:33 <jcpham>	i wouldn't know Bowjob i do not gamble
Jan 31 17:22:42 <jcpham>	god punishes wicked sinner gamblers
Jan 31 17:26:04 <kakobreklaa>	by giving the monies to the shareholders
Jan 31 17:26:21 <error4733>	just +750K$ in 2 month...
Jan 31 17:29:28 <mircea_popescu>	enough for tobacco.
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Jan 31 17:31:45 <assbot>	 No darn tobacco, thats for sure.
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Jan 31 17:32:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 540 @ 0.00724211 = 3.9107 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 17:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Jan 31 17:48:04 <Bugpowder>	On my phone
Jan 31 17:49:38 <mod6>	connectbot ftw!
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Jan 31 18:04:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00067317 = 6.4288 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 18:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00067066 = 0.5701 BTC [-]
Jan 31 18:10:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1104 @ 0.00067044 = 0.7402 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 18:14:51 <fancypants>	!help
Jan 31 18:14:52 <assbot>	List of commands:
Jan 31 18:14:53 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Jan 31 18:15:13 <fancypants>	!ticker MPEX S.DICE
Jan 31 18:15:14 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00534524 / 0.00699327 / 0.00739499 (89508 shares, 625.95 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00715946 / 0.0075 (624824 shares, 4,473.41 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00475863 / 0.0075 (6578516 shares, 31,304.74 BTC)
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Jan 31 18:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 373 @ 0.00066987 = 0.2499 BTC [-]
Jan 31 18:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 17 @ 0.01499991 = 0.255 BTC [+]
Jan 31 18:23:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 748 @ 0.00066627 = 0.4984 BTC [-]
Jan 31 18:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00066426 = 1.3617 BTC [-]
Jan 31 18:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1134 @ 0.00066322 = 0.7521 BTC [-]
Jan 31 18:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 35 @ 0.00724211 = 0.2535 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 18:24:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 157 @ 0.001599 = 0.251 BTC [-]
Jan 31 18:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00066322 = 1.4591 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 18:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00066987 = 2.6795 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 18:42:24 <Namworld>	How many shares did ASICMINER sell?
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Jan 31 18:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9539 @ 0.00066322 = 6.3265 BTC [-]
Jan 31 18:49:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4823 @ 0.00066987 = 3.2308 BTC [+]
Jan 31 18:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00067317 = 4.1063 BTC [+]
Jan 31 18:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1994 @ 0.00067706 = 1.3501 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 18:59:22 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 31 18:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00534524 / 0.00698411 / 0.00739499 (87243 shares, 609.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00716125 / 0.0075 (623659 shares, 4,466.18 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00476381 / 0.0075 (6548683 shares, 31,196.73 BTC)
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Jan 31 19:12:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5160 @ 0.00067204 = 3.4677 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:16:14 <thestringpuller>	wtf is this shit
Jan 31 19:16:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is manipulating da market
Jan 31 19:16:50 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 19
Jan 31 19:16:53 <gribble>	There are currently 21301.298 bitcoins demanded at or over 19.0 USD, worth 421722.684703 USD in total.
Jan 31 19:17:09 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 21
Jan 31 19:17:12 <gribble>	There are currently 2446.5034 bitcoins offered at or under 21.0 USD, worth 51124.3598663 USD in total.
Jan 31 19:17:23 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 20
Jan 31 19:17:26 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Jan 31 19:17:35 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 20
Jan 31 19:17:38 <gribble>	There are currently 10170.349 bitcoins demanded at or over 20.0 USD, worth 205310.829868 USD in total.
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Jan 31 19:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 674 @ 0.00724211 = 4.8812 BTC [+]
Jan 31 19:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 926 @ 0.00727013 = 6.7321 BTC [+]
Jan 31 19:27:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00067678 = 2.7748 BTC [+]
Jan 31 19:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7035 @ 0.00067204 = 4.7278 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:30:50 <smickles>	;;ticker
Jan 31 19:30:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.55104, Best ask: 20.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.14895, Last trade: 20.70000, 24 hour volume: 99996.90950064, 24 hour low: 19.51123, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.58455
Jan 31 19:30:54 <error4733>	Bitcoin is to fiat what kryptonite is to superman.
Jan 31 19:30:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 205 @ 0.00067204 = 0.1378 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:30:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3977 @ 0.00066322 = 2.6376 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:31:11 <thestringpuller>	smickles you got a moment?
Jan 31 19:31:26 <smickles>	thestringpuller: sure
Jan 31 19:31:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1757 @ 0.00066159 = 1.1624 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:32:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 19:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23382 @ 0.00067686 = 15.8263 BTC [+]
Jan 31 19:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13556 @ 0.00067706 = 9.1782 BTC [+]
Jan 31 19:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6258 @ 0.00067745 = 4.2395 BTC [+]
Jan 31 19:35:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000678 = 6.78 BTC [+]
Jan 31 19:35:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7504 @ 0.00067812 = 5.0886 BTC [+]
Jan 31 19:40:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.13 = 0.26 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 19:41:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1102 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:41:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1101 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:41:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 10 @ 0.11 = 1.1 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7723 @ 0.00067604 = 5.2211 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:44:56 <smickles>	 /q thestringpuller
Jan 31 19:44:59 <smickles>	lol
Jan 31 19:45:55 <Namworld>	Buy more BTC-BOND
Jan 31 19:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6818 @ 0.00067604 = 4.6092 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11632 @ 0.00066147 = 7.6942 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00066438 = 5.614 BTC [+]
Jan 31 19:53:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:53:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.2802 = 1.1208 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:53:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.28 = 2.24 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:53:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2639 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:53:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:53:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 12 @ 0.2402 = 2.8824 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:53:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 25 @ 0.2401 = 6.0025 BTC [-]
Jan 31 19:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	<Namworld> How many shares did ASICMINER sell? 20k of 40k total issued
Jan 31 19:56:17 <Namworld>	They only issued 40k?
Jan 31 19:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	is what they said.
Jan 31 19:56:27 <mircea_popescu>	o no my bad, 400k
Jan 31 19:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	40k btc worth
Jan 31 19:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	200k / 400k shares at .1 each
Jan 31 19:56:37 <Namworld>	ah, 200k
Jan 31 19:56:43 <Namworld>	shares
Jan 31 19:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Jan 31 19:59:15 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: hey
Jan 31 19:59:22 <thestringpuller>	i need your email
Jan 31 20:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00066438 = 8.803 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00066228 = 1.755 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:01:19 <Bugpowder>	Bye bye cognitive
Jan 31 20:02:11 <Namworld>	If only GLBSE hadn't been closed
Jan 31 20:02:21 <Namworld>	I'd have like ~1200 ASICMINER
Jan 31 20:02:49 <error4733>	net lost ?
Jan 31 20:03:35 <Namworld>	I lended them for shorting, and the shorting contract specified if shares weren't trading at the time of expiry, I'd be paid a 1 BTC compensation instead of getting shares.
Jan 31 20:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00066228 = 8.6428 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2768 @ 0.00066147 = 1.8309 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5982 @ 0.00066127 = 3.9557 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:04:47 <Namworld>	and yeah, so ASICMINER never started being traded again after GLBSE closed, they were not reissued
Jan 31 20:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	Network total	28.727 Thash/s.
Jan 31 20:05:11 <Namworld>	So shares could not be bought back for me
Jan 31 20:05:14 <mircea_popescu>	no asics yet
Jan 31 20:05:47 <smickles>	not even one? ;P
Jan 31 20:06:03 <smickles>	;;bc,nethash
Jan 31 20:06:15 <smickles>	hmm
Jan 31 20:06:18 <smickles>	;;nethash
Jan 31 20:06:19 <gribble>	25728.937914035028
Jan 31 20:06:19 <gribble>	25728.937914
Jan 31 20:06:29 <smickles>	oh, both
Jan 31 20:06:49 <smickles>	;;bc,price
Jan 31 20:06:51 <gribble>	Next Price Estimate: 22.823889 | Next Price In About 3 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 4 seconds
Jan 31 20:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	smickles maybe one
Jan 31 20:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	certainly not 20
Jan 31 20:08:40 <smickles>	you nethash is bigger than mine :o
Jan 31 20:09:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.705 = 2.115 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 20:09:12 <Ukto>	well
Jan 31 20:09:18 <Ukto>	no one wants to sell their asicmining shares
Jan 31 20:09:24 <smickles>	!ticker m s.dice
Jan 31 20:09:24 <Ukto>	I have asked around
Jan 31 20:09:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00534524 / 0.00698261 / 0.00739499 (87093 shares, 608.14 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.0071615 / 0.0075 (625259 shares, 4,477.80 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00476452 / 0.0075 (6549766 shares, 31,206.53 BTC)
Jan 31 20:09:26 <thestringpuller>	garzik has an asic
Jan 31 20:09:38 <thestringpuller>	i dont think he was lyig
Jan 31 20:09:44 <thestringpuller>	liying
Jan 31 20:09:48 <Ukto>	no, bitcoind foundation has one too
Jan 31 20:10:03 <Ukto>	charles / yankee of bitinstnat was there and saw/played with it in person
Jan 31 20:10:05 <smickles>	wth does the bf have one?
Jan 31 20:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto pity they STILL haven't gotten with the program and listed
Jan 31 20:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	i think i'd short them all over again
Jan 31 20:10:22 <Ukto>	https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=112
Jan 31 20:10:36 <smickles>	why?
Jan 31 20:10:44 <Ukto>	bf?
Jan 31 20:10:45 <Ukto>	wha?
Jan 31 20:10:47 <Ukto>	oh
Jan 31 20:10:50 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: who listed?
Jan 31 20:10:50 <Ukto>	foundation
Jan 31 20:10:57 <Ukto>	but yeah there it is :)
Jan 31 20:11:09 <Ukto>	they have a special one with an xtra asic module
Jan 31 20:11:30 <Ukto>	Anyone wanna sell ASICMINING shares? pm me :)
Jan 31 20:11:36 <Ukto>	as doubtful as it is
Jan 31 20:11:51 <smickles>	I think owning one of those is outside of their misson statement
Jan 31 20:12:50 <smickles>	or, at least, their 3 primary objectives
Jan 31 20:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	owning what ?!
Jan 31 20:14:19 <Namworld>	I technically should have 827 shares left of ASICMINER
Jan 31 20:14:24 <Namworld>	So I have a little
Jan 31 20:14:27 <smickles>	I took: < Ukto> no, bitcoind foundation has one too " to mean that they owned one
Jan 31 20:15:09 <Ukto>	have one in their posestion, not sure if they paid for it
Jan 31 20:15:11 *	Ukto points to the blog
Jan 31 20:15:45 <smickles>	all i see is a long list with polimeda at the top, and no understanding to be had
Jan 31 20:16:21 <Ukto>	long list of what?
Jan 31 20:16:23 <Ukto>	0,o
Jan 31 20:16:33 <smickles>	heh, on mircea_popescu's blog
Jan 31 20:16:56 <smickles>	it looks like he's bragging about something
Jan 31 20:17:03 <smickles>	what... i dunno
Jan 31 20:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00066488 = 3.5904 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00066979 = 3.215 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	smickles link ?
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Jan 31 20:19:11 <Ukto>	lol
Jan 31 20:21:53 <mircea_popescu>	or wtf are we talking about
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Jan 31 20:27:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it was at http://polimedia.us/trilema/ , but no more
Jan 31 20:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok.
Jan 31 20:28:25 <mircea_popescu>	the root picks a random article
Jan 31 20:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	you need it's url by clicking on the title
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Jan 31 20:32:19 <Ukto>	0,o
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Jan 31 20:37:51 <mircea_popescu>	ok that picostocks idiot is taking the cake already.
Jan 31 20:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066276 = 2.8638 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00066268 = 6.3949 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:38:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 979 @ 0.00066127 = 0.6474 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4239 @ 0.00066127 = 2.8031 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 661 @ 0.00066115 = 0.437 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:41:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1175 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:41:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1174 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:41:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.8304 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:42:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.705 = 2.115 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:43:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 85 @ 0.1172 = 9.962 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:43:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.1171 = 0.3513 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:44:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.5198 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066133 = 2.8576 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00066131 = 12.631 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:45:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2343 @ 0.00066114 = 1.5491 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:47:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:49:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066961 = 2.8934 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14088 @ 0.00066979 = 9.436 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:49:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4999 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3660 @ 0.00066132 = 2.4204 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12390 @ 0.00066114 = 8.1915 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00066024 = 3.6643 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:52:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3399 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:54:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:56:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.707 = 2.828 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:57:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1763 @ 0.00066979 = 1.1808 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:57:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067811 = 2.9301 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2116 @ 0.00067812 = 1.4349 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:58:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0321 BTC [-]
Jan 31 20:59:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2180 @ 0.00067812 = 1.4783 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:59:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067821 = 2.9305 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:59:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11832 @ 0.00067822 = 8.0247 BTC [+]
Jan 31 20:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2367 @ 0.00067863 = 1.6063 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:00:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0239 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:02:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 124 @ 0.00727013 = 0.9015 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00066033 = 0.4622 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 21:07:01 <Ukto>	hey erik :)
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Jan 31 21:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8490 @ 0.00067863 = 5.7616 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 21:17:39 <evoorhees>	hi ukto
Jan 31 21:17:48 <evoorhees>	how are things?
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Jan 31 21:18:07 <Ukto>	doing good
Jan 31 21:18:16 <Ukto>	working on one of the various evil schemes. ;)
Jan 31 21:19:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.707 = 1.414 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:19:45 <Ukto>	If its not evil, it just cant be good. ;)
Jan 31 21:20:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.708 = 2.124 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:22:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.71 = 7.1 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:22:47 <evoorhees>	evil scheme huh?
Jan 31 21:23:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.725 = 19.575 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13543 @ 0.00067863 = 9.1907 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9957 @ 0.00067913 = 6.7621 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:25:12 <Ukto>	everything is evil
Jan 31 21:25:14 <Ukto>	to some extent. ;)
Jan 31 21:25:40 <Ukto>	I prefer playing sith when playing star wars. ;)
Jan 31 21:25:44 <Ukto>	its just more.. fun
Jan 31 21:26:40 <evoorhees>	lol
Jan 31 21:26:56 <evoorhees>	I could never play evil in the video games, I always felt guilty
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Jan 31 21:29:43 <Bowjob>	btctalk seems down
Jan 31 21:30:54 <Namworld>	I'm having fun with google spreadsheets and JSON
Jan 31 21:30:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000669 = 2.8907 BTC [-]
Jan 31 21:30:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19429 @ 0.00066879 = 12.9939 BTC [-]
Jan 31 21:31:06 <Namworld>	fetching all sorts of data automatically
Jan 31 21:31:28 <Namworld>	BTCT.co, MtGox, Blockchain
Jan 31 21:31:47 <Namworld>	I'll have an auto-updating summary of my holdings and their value
Jan 31 21:31:58 <Namworld>	Sadly, MPEx has no JSON api I think
Jan 31 21:33:05 <kakobrekla>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php
Jan 31 21:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	<evoorhees> I could never play evil in the video games, I always felt guilty << whoa!
Jan 31 21:34:04 <mircea_popescu>	i almost always play the necromancer.
Jan 31 21:34:20 <Namworld>	AWESOME!
Jan 31 21:34:24 <Namworld>	MPEx DATA!
Jan 31 21:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol hi Namworld. enjoying interwebs ?
Jan 31 21:34:36 <Namworld>	Very much
Jan 31 21:34:39 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: did you ever talk to amazingrando?
Jan 31 21:34:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00066879 = 0.7163 BTC [-]
Jan 31 21:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2416 @ 0.00066025 = 1.5952 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 21:35:10 <Namworld>	I added him 2 days ago on skype, no news yet
Jan 31 21:35:13 <mircea_popescu>	the girl has meanwhile managed to open a rift with hearn too.
Jan 31 21:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how long before the bitcoin coder & geek community gets together a possee and comes to hang me.
Jan 31 21:36:21 <kakobrekla>	till april or so.
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Jan 31 21:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	well... at least i get to see the cherries bloom
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Jan 31 21:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz_yw0kq3MM
Jan 31 21:40:08 <Namworld>	Anyone interested in a release of javascript functions for Google Spreadsheets?
Jan 31 21:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	for the lulz.
Jan 31 21:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	"monetary policy is spectacular" etc.
Jan 31 21:40:19 <Namworld>	To fetch all sorts of data?
Jan 31 21:40:54 <mircea_popescu>	can't hurt anything
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Jan 31 21:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1176 @ 0.00067913 = 0.7987 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067916 = 2.9347 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00067917 = 5.4334 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1903 @ 0.00067981 = 1.2937 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067562 = 2.9194 BTC [-]
Jan 31 21:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4217 @ 0.00067538 = 2.8481 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 21:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067549 = 2.9188 BTC [+]
Jan 31 21:47:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14583 @ 0.00067538 = 9.8491 BTC [-]
Jan 31 21:48:17 <error4733>	:Namworld : Yes yes
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Jan 31 21:53:22 <Namworld>	Good
Jan 31 21:53:28 <Namworld>	Will release soon
Jan 31 21:55:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3399 BTC [-]
Jan 31 21:55:34 <Ukto>	Namworld: thats not a bad idea... might even work...
Jan 31 21:55:40 <Ukto>	You are brilliant. :)
Jan 31 21:55:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.3399 = 0.6798 BTC [-]
Jan 31 21:56:05 <Ukto>	I will look into that
Jan 31 21:57:11 <Namworld>	I'm already using google spreadsheet
Jan 31 21:57:18 <Namworld>	with JSON APIs
Jan 31 21:57:20 <error4733>	got few for Sdice data, live ROI for my assets in BTC, share, coin
Jan 31 21:57:30 <Namworld>	to get my BTC balance on my address (blockchain)
Jan 31 21:57:36 <Namworld>	MtGox weighted average
Jan 31 21:57:48 <Namworld>	My portfolio on BTCT.co and their avg trading value
Jan 31 21:57:49 <Namworld>	etc
Jan 31 21:58:02 <Namworld>	to make totals, % of portfolio, stats, etc
Jan 31 21:58:06 <Namworld>	all self updating
Jan 31 21:58:17 <pigeons>	hmm https://bitcointalk.org/byzantine.html
Jan 31 21:58:19 <Namworld>	Really nice to track your performance from day to day
Jan 31 21:58:32 <error4733>	yep, every morning
Jan 31 21:58:36 <error4733>	just one page or 2
Jan 31 21:58:47 <error4733>	and you check all your data
Jan 31 21:59:20 <error4733>	can't belive i never used for this before
Jan 31 22:01:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2401 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 22:06:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1205 @ 0.00066653 = 0.8032 BTC [-]
Jan 31 22:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00066652 = 15.4633 BTC [-]
Jan 31 22:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1271 @ 0.00066439 = 0.8444 BTC [-]
Jan 31 22:07:13 <Namworld>	and it's relatively simple to implement
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Jan 31 22:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10079 @ 0.00066439 = 6.6964 BTC [-]
Jan 31 22:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7671 @ 0.00066024 = 5.0647 BTC [-]
Jan 31 22:10:19 <Bowjob>	Mhm avalon
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Jan 31 22:13:25 <Ukto>	Namworld: I'm gonna try poking with it in a few. have a nifty idea. :)
Jan 31 22:14:46 <error4733>	Earnings	20067.37319487
Jan 31 22:14:46 <error4733>	Hosting/Tech Expenses	60
Jan 31 22:14:46 <error4733>	Loss Carryover from Nov.	0
Jan 31 22:14:46 <error4733>	Net Profit	20007.37319487
Jan 31 22:14:46 <error4733>	10% MPEX Dividend	2000.737319487
Jan 31 22:14:56 <error4733>	THANKS S.DICE
Jan 31 22:15:46 <Ukto>	sdice is what, 10mil ?
Jan 31 22:15:50 <Ukto>	or 100mil shares?
Jan 31 22:16:08 <error4733>	10 ;)
Jan 31 22:16:15 <error4733>	nononon
Jan 31 22:16:18 <error4733>	100
Jan 31 22:16:21 <error4733>	10 public
Jan 31 22:16:43 <Ukto>	so 2000.737319487 / 10,000,000 right? :)
Jan 31 22:16:50 <error4733>	yep
Jan 31 22:16:50 <Ukto>	0.00020007373 per share
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Jan 31 22:16:57 <Ukto>	roughly
Jan 31 22:16:57 <error4733>	2BTC/10K
Jan 31 22:17:39 <error4733>	10K=37BTC 29 days ago
Jan 31 22:18:01 <error4733>	btc@13.xx
Jan 31 22:20:39 <error4733>	insane ROI, i'm sick bc it's my first deal in BTCLand... but now with 150% ROI in one month... my next invest will seem ugly
Jan 31 22:20:52 <Namworld>	I guess there's no MPEx API for our own portfolio =/
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Jan 31 22:21:21 <Namworld>	I borrow BTC at 0.03% daily
Jan 31 22:21:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2401 BTC [-]
Jan 31 22:21:39 <Namworld>	BTC-BOND on BTCT.co
Jan 31 22:21:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2401 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 22:23:25 <error4733>	!ticker b b.bond
Jan 31 22:23:25 <assbot>	Are you sure you have no tobacco?
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Jan 31 22:25:24 <Namworld>	!ticker b BTC-BOND
Jan 31 22:25:24 <assbot>	Stupid fucking white man.
Jan 31 22:25:30 <Namworld>	!ticker BTC-BOND
Jan 31 22:25:30 <assbot>	Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
Jan 31 22:25:36 <Namworld>	!ticker btct BTC-BOND
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Jan 31 22:25:39 <assbot>	[BTCT:BTC-BOND] 1D: 0.01 / 0.01 / 0.01 (500 shares, 5.0 BTC),  7D: 0.0093 / 0.01 / 0.01 (7888 shares, 78.1 BTC), 30D: 0.009 / 0.01 / 0.011 (19610 shares, 192.0 BTC)
Jan 31 22:25:44 <Namworld>	ah, there we go
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Jan 31 22:25:57 <kakobrekla>	bt should work
Jan 31 22:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00066501 = 5.8853 BTC [+]
Jan 31 22:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066748 = 2.8842 BTC [+]
Jan 31 22:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10109 @ 0.00066764 = 6.7492 BTC [+]
Jan 31 22:26:04 <kakobrekla>	i think.
Jan 31 22:26:12 <Namworld>	Price is pretty stable considering I buy back anytime at face value
Jan 31 22:26:17 <kakobrekla>	!ticker bt btc-bond
Jan 31 22:26:18 <assbot>	[BTCT:BTC-BOND] 1D: 0.01 / 0.01 / 0.01 (500 shares, 5.0 BTC),  7D: 0.0093 / 0.01 / 0.01 (7888 shares, 78.1 BTC), 30D: 0.009 / 0.01 / 0.011 (19610 shares, 192.0 BTC)
Jan 31 22:26:21 <kakobrekla>	ya
Jan 31 22:29:11 <Namworld>	Here's my amazing auto-updating spreadsheet
Jan 31 22:29:14 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGFKVlAtZVAzOGNqS1Brd05MUlFlT2c
Jan 31 22:29:49 <Namworld>	MPEx amount of shares and other holdings don't self update
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Jan 31 22:30:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1879 @ 0.00066024 = 1.2406 BTC [-]
Jan 31 22:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3851 @ 0.00066014 = 2.5422 BTC [-]
Jan 31 22:30:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066 = 2.8519 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 22:30:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10922 @ 0.00065999 = 7.2084 BTC [-]
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Jan 31 22:30:26 <Namworld>	other than that, my outstanding BTC-BOND, its value, daily interest to pay, BTCT.co holding, USD value and BTC value, % of portfolio, etc.
Jan 31 22:30:39 <Namworld>	All neatly self-updating
Jan 31 22:32:56 <Atruk>	;; ticker
Jan 31 22:32:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.63380, Best ask: 20.81999, Bid-ask spread: 0.18619, Last trade: 20.63076, 24 hour volume: 103374.18594993, 24 hour low: 19.78001, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.63281
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Jan 31 22:35:58 <Bowjob>	"Template Parse Error!"
Jan 31 22:36:46 <Namworld>	Damn, bitcointalk.org won't show posts
Jan 31 22:37:09 <Bowjob>	You can make topics on it with your message however
Jan 31 22:37:52 <error4733>	well done
Jan 31 22:38:17 <Namworld>	I'll post the functions on bitcointalk.org once people can also read
Jan 31 22:42:44 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent
Jan 31 22:42:47 <Bowjob>	to read posts
Jan 31 22:43:42 <Bowjob>	Looks like Avalon delayed their second batch pre order
Jan 31 22:43:59 <Diablo-D3>	get on their ml
Jan 31 22:44:02 <Diablo-D3>	that was already announced
Jan 31 22:44:59 <Bowjob>	ml?
Jan 31 22:45:00 <Bowjob>	I am
Jan 31 22:45:11 <error4733>	wth, i got this when i try btctalk  http://tinyurl.com/cjyc6k5
Jan 31 22:45:53 <Bowjob>	"Second Batch  Second batch's order time have been postponed, stay tuned today major updates"
Jan 31 22:46:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1126 @ 0.00730799 = 8.2288 BTC [+]
Jan 31 22:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 455 @ 0.00728985 = 3.3169 BTC [-]
Jan 31 22:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066757 = 2.8846 BTC [+]
Jan 31 22:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3523 @ 0.00066764 = 2.3521 BTC [+]
Jan 31 22:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 771 @ 0.00723188 = 5.5758 BTC [-]
Jan 31 22:59:35 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140427.0
Jan 31 22:59:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5968 @ 0.00066764 = 3.9845 BTC [+]
Jan 31 22:59:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13984 @ 0.00066985 = 9.3672 BTC [+]
Jan 31 22:59:43 <Namworld>	JSON API!
Jan 31 23:01:18 <Namworld>	I love spreadsheets
Jan 31 23:02:17 <jcpham>	http://www.nanex.net/aqck2/4090.html
Jan 31 23:02:26 <jcpham>	who's clock is off by 700ms
Jan 31 23:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1662 @ 0.00066985 = 1.1133 BTC [+]
Jan 31 23:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9976 @ 0.00067049 = 6.6888 BTC [+]
Jan 31 23:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4212 @ 0.00067352 = 2.8369 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 23:10:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.729 = 1.458 BTC [+]
Jan 31 23:10:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 23:12:37 <Bowjob>	My electrum wallet says unkown on date
Jan 31 23:12:47 <Bowjob>	jw, can I still send coins of 100 BTC magnitude?
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Jan 31 23:18:06 <dust-otc>	are there logs of this channel somewhere?
Jan 31 23:18:59 <jcpham>	i hope not
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Jan 31 23:19:33 <dust-otc>	#bitcoin-dev is logged, for example
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Jan 31 23:30:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006628 = 2.864 BTC [-]
Jan 31 23:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00066278 = 4.6918 BTC [-]
Jan 31 23:36:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.73 = 6.57 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 23:37:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.74487 = 7.4487 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 23:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066347 = 2.8669 BTC [+]
Jan 31 23:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22543 @ 0.00066361 = 14.9598 BTC [+]
Jan 31 23:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2421 @ 0.00066278 = 1.6046 BTC [-]
Jan 31 23:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066207 = 2.8608 BTC [-]
Jan 31 23:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00066206 = 3.2441 BTC [-]
Jan 31 23:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17814 @ 0.00065999 = 11.7571 BTC [-]
Jan 31 23:42:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.7448998 = 6.7041 BTC [+]
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Jan 31 23:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00066287 = 2.9498 BTC [+]
Jan 31 23:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5914 @ 0.00065999 = 3.9032 BTC [-]
Jan 31 23:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00065792 = 8.0924 BTC [-]
Jan 31 23:50:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1236 @ 0.00065659 = 0.8115 BTC [-]
Jan 31 23:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3655 @ 0.00723188 = 26.4325 BTC [-]
Jan 31 23:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2586 @ 0.00066361 = 1.7161 BTC [+]
Jan 31 23:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066479 = 2.8726 BTC [+]
Jan 31 23:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14641 @ 0.0006648 = 9.7333 BTC [+]
Feb 01 00:02:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.6 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 00:03:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.7448998 = 4.4694 BTC [+]
Feb 01 00:04:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.745 = 2.98 BTC [+]
Feb 01 00:05:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.76 = 6.08 BTC [+]
Feb 01 00:10:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [+]
Feb 01 00:14:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.7649 = 1.5298 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 00:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00065954 = 6.6943 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 00:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00065954 = 0.2968 BTC [-]
Feb 01 00:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2495 @ 0.00065974 = 1.6461 BTC [+]
Feb 01 00:42:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1864 @ 0.00065659 = 1.2239 BTC [-]
Feb 01 00:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065604 = 2.8347 BTC [-]
Feb 01 00:42:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9170 @ 0.00065603 = 6.0158 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 00:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065978 = 2.8509 BTC [+]
Feb 01 00:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 129 @ 0.00065992 = 0.0851 BTC [+]
Feb 01 00:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065609 = 2.835 BTC [-]
Feb 01 00:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7380 @ 0.00065603 = 4.8415 BTC [-]
Feb 01 00:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5059 @ 0.00065513 = 3.3143 BTC [-]
Feb 01 00:51:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7656 @ 0.0006546 = 5.0116 BTC [-]
Feb 01 00:51:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1384 @ 0.00065456 = 0.9059 BTC [-]
Feb 01 00:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065987 = 2.8513 BTC [+]
Feb 01 00:53:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2829 @ 0.00065992 = 1.8669 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 01:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065465 = 2.8287 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10866 @ 0.00065456 = 7.1124 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15210 @ 0.00065451 = 9.9551 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25403 @ 0.00065396 = 16.6125 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:04:45 <Bowjob>	Can anyone link me to a bitcoin calc?
Feb 01 01:05:11 <mod6>	for mining?
Feb 01 01:05:27 <Bowjob>	yes
Feb 01 01:05:41 <mod6>	this is the first one returned from google: http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator
Feb 01 01:06:06 <mod6>	search google for "bitcoin mining calculator" there are a few -- some take more inputs than others
Feb 01 01:06:07 <Bowjob>	Assuming BFL keeps their track of non delivery, perhaps Avalon will get there before the rest.
Feb 01 01:06:22 <mod6>	like this one: http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
Feb 01 01:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006598 = 2.851 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12742 @ 0.00065992 = 8.4087 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4188 @ 0.0006648 = 2.7842 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3949 @ 0.00066653 = 2.6321 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:07:14 <Bowjob>	thanks
Feb 01 01:07:57 <mod6>	np
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Feb 01 01:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19601 @ 0.00066653 = 13.0647 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:09:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15499 @ 0.00066864 = 10.3633 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 01:12:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.81 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:13:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:19:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2401 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 01:24:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.2401 = 0.7203 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 93 @ 0.00723188 = 0.6726 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00726368 = 1.4527 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.00734022 = 0.0514 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:28:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00734022 = 3.3031 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:30:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0074 = 0.074 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:30:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3399 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:32:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065418 = 2.8267 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:32:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7447 @ 0.00065396 = 4.87 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:33:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9282 @ 0.00065389 = 6.0694 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:34:10 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 01:34:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.90005, Best ask: 21.04998, Bid-ask spread: 0.14993, Last trade: 20.90001, 24 hour volume: 100797.48903206, 24 hour low: 19.86000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.69875
Feb 01 01:37:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065965 = 2.8503 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:37:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00065991 = 3.1867 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:38:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13871 @ 0.00065991 = 9.1536 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:42:25 <Bowjob>	How do I calculate the difficulty based on Hashrate of the network?
Feb 01 01:44:35 <mod6>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty
Feb 01 01:44:48 <mod6>	that might help
Feb 01 01:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8355 @ 0.00066864 = 5.5865 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8445 @ 0.00067069 = 5.664 BTC [+]
Feb 01 01:47:55 <Namworld>	Bowjob: rumor is, ASICMINER will have 800 boards x 64 chips x 315 mhash/s each deployed in the next 2 weeks.
Feb 01 01:49:47 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1493791#msg1493791
Feb 01 01:53:39 <Bowjob>	Mhm, I guess that adds about 16 TH to the network then
Feb 01 01:55:36 <Namworld>	Apparently, assuming nothing is fake
Feb 01 01:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00066826 = 10.5585 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00066596 = 4.695 BTC [-]
Feb 01 01:58:33 <Ukto>	not THAT much when you think about it
Feb 01 01:58:34 <Ukto>	>,>
Feb 01 02:00:32 <Bowjob>	Kay, assuming BFL, Asicminer ships on top of Avalon, what will the difficulty be?
Feb 01 02:00:56 <Diablo-D3>	over 9000.
Feb 01 02:04:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:06:15 <Namworld>	9000 trillion
Feb 01 02:06:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8529 @ 0.00066596 = 5.68 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:06:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8771 @ 0.00066241 = 5.81 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:06:33 <Diablo-D3>	INFINITE PLUS ONE
Feb 01 02:06:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7511 @ 0.00066826 = 5.0193 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:07:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16055 @ 0.00067069 = 10.7679 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:07:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12468 @ 0.00067117 = 8.3681 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22538 @ 0.00067352 = 15.1798 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:07:02 <Namworld>	INFINITE^INFINITE
Feb 01 02:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00067366 = 2.6273 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13231 @ 0.00067434 = 8.9222 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:07:31 <Namworld>	The infinite multiplication of the infinite with itself
Feb 01 02:08:07 <Diablo-D3>	a rough approximation of the size of my penis
Feb 01 02:10:12 <Namworld>	Yeah, well I don't care
Feb 01 02:14:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00719623 = 2.1589 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:14:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00719622 = 7.9158 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 02:19:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 243 @ 0.00734022 = 1.7837 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1457 @ 0.00735013 = 10.7091 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:22:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11305 @ 0.00067434 = 7.6234 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00067747 = 6.6731 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3395 @ 0.00067807 = 2.302 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:23:49 <Namworld>	By the way, the high-profile investor I had on my shareholders list. Well it's not just a fake email input.
Feb 01 02:24:01 <Namworld>	@ Diablo-D3
Feb 01 02:24:22 <Diablo-D3>	oh?
Feb 01 02:25:39 <Namworld>	Aye, we have a CEO and founder in the financial sector toying with BTC assets.
Feb 01 02:26:07 <Diablo-D3>	oh boy
Feb 01 02:27:22 <Namworld>	It's always nice to know BTC stuff attracts the attention of people in the financial sector.
Feb 01 02:27:58 <Diablo-D3>	yes, and too bad you fucked everybody by trusting amazingretard
Feb 01 02:30:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6979 @ 0.00066241 = 4.623 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:30:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 521 @ 0.00066228 = 0.345 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:30:03 <Namworld>	Well it was motioned and everyone seemed happy about it.
Feb 01 02:35:29 <Diablo-D3>	I asked you earlier but you didnt answer
Feb 01 02:35:31 <Diablo-D3>	did you talk to him yet?
Feb 01 02:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15329 @ 0.00066228 = 10.1521 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:37:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 88 @ 0.0074 = 0.6512 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:37:43 <Namworld>	[21:34] <Diablo-D3> Namworld: did you ever talk to amazingrando?
Feb 01 02:37:43 <Namworld>	[21:34] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00066879 = 0.7163 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:37:43 <Namworld>	[21:34] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2416 @ 0.00066025 = 1.5952 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 02:37:43 <Namworld>	[21:35] <Namworld> I added him 2 days ago on skype, no news yet
Feb 01 02:37:56 <Diablo-D3>	kay
Feb 01 02:38:36 <Namworld>	That guy was slow before half-disappearing, taking up to a week to reply. I don't see why it would be any faster.
Feb 01 02:39:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4765 @ 0.00065389 = 3.1158 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:39:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1685 @ 0.00065282 = 1.1 BTC [-]
Feb 01 02:40:42 <Namworld>	If he doesn't answer or BFL ships and he doesn't start paying back, I'll see about suing him.
Feb 01 02:40:50 <Namworld>	He's technically already late.
Feb 01 02:41:08 <Diablo-D3>	I think DMC investors would be happy with that
Feb 01 02:43:28 <Namworld>	I should qualify for free legal help and since Gigavps is honest and is in contact with him. It's not like amazingrando would be completly out of reach. Canada <-> US.
Feb 01 02:43:38 <Namworld>	And it wouldn't cost me anything.
Feb 01 02:43:52 <Namworld>	other than time
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Feb 01 02:44:13 <Diablo-D3>	doesnt giga host at amazingrando's place?
Feb 01 02:44:21 <Namworld>	He is
Feb 01 02:44:30 <Namworld>	some of his equipment is hosted by amazingrando
Feb 01 02:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12361 @ 0.00065987 = 8.1567 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30110 @ 0.00065987 = 19.8687 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00067019 = 5.7636 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:50:50 <Diablo-D3>	has amazingrando fucked him?
Feb 01 02:51:16 <Namworld>	Apparently not
Feb 01 02:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 694 @ 0.00735013 = 5.101 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:52:20 <Namworld>	His hashing dropped somewhat. From the little he said in his thread, he dropped some equipment which was not profitable enough.
Feb 01 02:52:46 <Namworld>	He's now paying his direct investors who had the largest chunk apparently.
Feb 01 02:53:07 <Namworld>	and apparently, after GLBSE closed, ordered and spent everything on BFL ASICs to upgrade.
Feb 01 02:53:42 <Namworld>	But of course BFL never delievered before he got the list of holders. Plus technically my loan is completly unrelated to GLBSE offering.
Feb 01 02:54:04 <Namworld>	But he used to pay me through GLBSE directly.
Feb 01 02:54:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.7649 = 2.2947 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:54:36 <Diablo-D3>	why did he buy bfl =/
Feb 01 02:54:56 <Namworld>	So me/small GLBSE holders are now like not being paid at all
Feb 01 02:55:02 <Namworld>	No idea why.
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Feb 01 02:55:10 <Namworld>	BTC-MINING was planning BFL too.
Feb 01 02:55:17 <Namworld>	I also put some money in ASICMINER
Feb 01 02:55:27 <Namworld>	none in AVALON/bASIC
Feb 01 02:55:59 <Diablo-D3>	dmc's best investment seems to have been asicminer
Feb 01 02:56:53 <Namworld>	I regret a lot lending my ASICMINER
Feb 01 02:57:12 <Diablo-D3>	I wish I had bought more of it
Feb 01 02:57:22 <Diablo-D3>	but everyone was bitching I bought as much as I did
Feb 01 02:57:32 <Namworld>	I lost 1247 ASICMINER to that.
Feb 01 02:57:44 <Diablo-D3>	heh, we only have 1000
Feb 01 02:57:50 <Diablo-D3>	and then 106 btc-mining, and 1000 btcmc
Feb 01 02:57:55 <Namworld>	I have 827 left
Feb 01 02:58:11 <Namworld>	Hmm... didn't I have some DMC?
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Feb 01 02:58:34 <Diablo-D3>	you might have
Feb 01 02:59:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00067597 = 9.7002 BTC [+]
Feb 01 02:59:26 <Namworld>	I don't remember. I think I had some
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Feb 01 03:04:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.7649 = 6.1192 BTC [+]
Feb 01 03:04:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.775 = 3.1 BTC [+]
Feb 01 03:05:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00067171 = 1.1419 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 03:07:25 <Namworld>	How were claims processed, Diablo-D3?
Feb 01 03:07:36 <Diablo-D3>	for dmc?
Feb 01 03:07:57 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 01 03:08:02 <Diablo-D3>	they're on bitfunder
Feb 01 03:08:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
Feb 01 03:08:40 <Namworld>	How does bitfunder contact holders on import?
Feb 01 03:09:04 <Diablo-D3>	whats your email address? you may not even be on the list
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Feb 01 03:09:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3483 @ 0.00067019 = 2.3343 BTC [-]
Feb 01 03:09:35 <Diablo-D3>	bitfunder emailed everyone on import
Feb 01 03:09:43 <Diablo-D3>	go talk with Ukto, its his exchange
Feb 01 03:09:47 <Namworld>	okay
Feb 01 03:10:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0071 = 0.0213 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 03:13:28 <Namworld>	Hmm, 3k GSDPT for 0.0069 on BTCT.co
Feb 01 03:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2636 @ 0.00065708 = 1.7321 BTC [-]
Feb 01 03:17:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12214 @ 0.00065707 = 8.0255 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 03:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065883 = 2.8468 BTC [+]
Feb 01 03:21:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9067 @ 0.00065896 = 5.9748 BTC [+]
Feb 01 03:21:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4862 @ 0.00066945 = 3.2549 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 03:21:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.0069 = 1.035 BTC [-]
Feb 01 03:21:58 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 03:21:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.71011, Best ask: 20.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07989, Last trade: 20.71011, 24 hour volume: 100263.40325466, 24 hour low: 19.86000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.72437
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Feb 01 03:24:14 <molecular>	I'm considering getting an MPEX account. Anyone up for helping me get it a little bit cheaper and reap 5 BTC himself as per http://mpex.co/faq.html#13 ?
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Feb 01 03:25:44 *	mircea_popescu counts
Feb 01 03:26:44 <fancypants>	molecular - sure
Feb 01 03:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	o wow, a whole minute. people will be pissed :D
Feb 01 03:27:21 <Namworld>	I PMed him alread
Feb 01 03:27:24 <Namworld>	already*
Feb 01 03:27:32 <molecular>	a question: is it allowed to sell MPEX "accounts" (the pgp key)?
Feb 01 03:28:01 <molecular>	so who's going lower than 5 BTC (give me part of that 5 after receiving)?
Feb 01 03:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	it's not allowed or disallowed, seeing how i have no control over it
Feb 01 03:28:32 <mircea_popescu>	it is however a little silly, as you are opening a security hole.
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Feb 01 03:29:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0069 = 0.69 BTC [-]
Feb 01 03:29:06 <molecular>	what happens when a pgp key expires?
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Feb 01 03:29:20 <molecular>	I agree it's silly, though
Feb 01 03:29:37 <fancypants>	whats the security hole?
Feb 01 03:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	you'd better have moved all your stuff to a new account or withdrawn
Feb 01 03:30:03 <molecular>	it's also a issue for the buyer of the key, because I still have it, right?
Feb 01 03:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	the keyring is on a cold machine and it doesn't keep track of key updates.
Feb 01 03:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	fancypants you never know whether the person selling a pgp key doesn't keep a copy.
Feb 01 03:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	that's  the issue.
Feb 01 03:30:29 <molecular>	mircea_popescu, you can be pretty sure he keeps a copy
Feb 01 03:30:35 <molecular>	I hadn't considered that
Feb 01 03:30:48 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 01 03:31:14 <mircea_popescu>	so now you're exposed to the cp risk of the exchange and of the key seller.
Feb 01 03:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 344 @ 0.00719622 = 2.4755 BTC [-]
Feb 01 03:31:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 956 @ 0.00717339 = 6.8578 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 03:32:37 <fancypants>	so, no security hole to game the affiliate program then?
Feb 01 03:32:56 <Namworld>	how can you game it at all?
Feb 01 03:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly. w hat's to game ?
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Feb 01 03:34:17 <fancypants>	i don't know namworld but if I tell her me keyed i get 5
Feb 01 03:34:24 <fancypants>	keyid
Feb 01 03:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	molecular is a girl ?!
Feb 01 03:35:16 <fancypants>	ask her i don't know
Feb 01 03:35:41 <Namworld>	fancypants: yeah, and molecular gets 5 too. But there's the 30 BTC fee
Feb 01 03:35:47 <Namworld>	to open an account
Feb 01 03:36:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [-]
Feb 01 03:36:09 <Namworld>	So it's not like you can game it opening multiple accounts
Feb 01 03:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 01 03:37:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.71011, Best ask: 20.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07989, Last trade: 20.71011, 24 hour volume: 99063.11903182, 24 hour low: 19.86000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.73462
Feb 01 03:38:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.775 = 4.65 BTC [+]
Feb 01 03:38:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.779 = 15.58 BTC [+]
Feb 01 03:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	soo what's new this fine morning ?
Feb 01 03:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	Network total	23.555 Thash/s, this is sad. where did all the asics go
Feb 01 03:40:06 <Namworld>	Nothing much. After the GLBSE fiasco, my BTC finances are slowly recovering
Feb 01 03:40:26 <Namworld>	bit by bit, one day after the other
Feb 01 03:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLAxbQxyJSQ
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Feb 01 03:50:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.779 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 03:55:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.33 = 2.64 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 03:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00735013 = 12.4952 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 03:59:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25059 @ 0.00066598 = 16.6888 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 04:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4452 @ 0.00066598 = 2.9649 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 04:14:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00733648 = 3.3014 BTC [-]
Feb 01 04:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16207 @ 0.00066553 = 10.7862 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 04:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00066553 = 7.3208 BTC [-]
Feb 01 04:34:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00066553 = 5.9565 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 04:38:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0235 = 0.047 BTC [-]
Feb 01 04:38:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0235 = 2.35 BTC [-]
Feb 01 04:41:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22438 @ 0.00066553 = 14.9332 BTC [-]
Feb 01 04:42:13 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Feb 01 04:42:41 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Feb 01 04:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065708 = 2.8392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 04:45:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34236 @ 0.00065707 = 22.4954 BTC [-]
Feb 01 04:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37241 @ 0.00065331 = 24.3299 BTC [-]
Feb 01 04:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Feb 01 04:47:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.001599 / 0.001599 / 0.001599 (157 shares, 0.25 BTC), 7D: 0.0010499 / 0.00128259 / 0.00159999 (70348 shares, 90.23 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00079936 / 0.0035 (2339720 shares, 1,870.29 BTC)
Feb 01 04:51:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 88 @ 0.0235 = 2.068 BTC [-]
Feb 01 04:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53 @ 0.00066553 = 0.0353 BTC [+]
Feb 01 04:53:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066662 = 2.8805 BTC [+]
Feb 01 04:53:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00066663 = 10.3328 BTC [+]
Feb 01 04:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 226 @ 0.00066945 = 0.1513 BTC [+]
Feb 01 04:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 930 @ 0.00718594 = 6.6829 BTC [-]
Feb 01 04:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00066945 = 10.4434 BTC [+]
Feb 01 05:02:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 79 @ 0.779 = 61.541 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 05:04:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 64 @ 0.78 = 49.92 BTC [+]
Feb 01 05:05:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.78 = 3.12 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 05:13:45 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
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Feb 01 05:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065353 = 2.8239 BTC [-]
Feb 01 05:15:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8871 @ 0.00065331 = 5.7955 BTC [-]
Feb 01 05:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 406 @ 0.00734501 = 2.9821 BTC [+]
Feb 01 05:18:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00065331 = 6.7618 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 05:25:21 <markedathome>	BingoBongo: no space after the ;
Feb 01 05:26:06 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 05:26:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.84999, Best ask: 20.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 20.85000, 24 hour volume: 87857.41531625, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.81479
Feb 01 05:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066928 = 2.892 BTC [+]
Feb 01 05:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00066945 = 0.6219 BTC [+]
Feb 01 05:27:09 <BingoBongo>	markedathome: you were saying?
Feb 01 05:28:37 <BingoBongo>	;; bc , stats
Feb 01 05:28:37 <gribble>	Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
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Feb 01 05:29:58 <BingoBongo>	See, the space is problematic there, but not where I initially used it
Feb 01 05:30:30 <BingoBongo>	!ticker m s.bbet
Feb 01 05:30:31 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.001599 / 0.001599 / 0.001599 (157 shares, 0.25 BTC), 7D: 0.0010499 / 0.00128259 / 0.00159999 (70348 shares, 90.23 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00079936 / 0.0035 (2339720 shares, 1,870.29 BTC)
Feb 01 05:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	dude that's subtle.
Feb 01 05:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	who are you BingoBongo ?
Feb 01 05:38:39 <BingoBongo>	I'm on the vodka right now so I'm on this sweet burner username
Feb 01 05:38:58 <BingoBongo>	It's like my cellphone
Feb 01 05:39:59 <BingoBongo>	mircea_popescu: was I really subtle, I thought that was some serious shade
Feb 01 05:40:26 <BingoBongo>	or vodka is telling me that
Feb 01 05:45:51 <BingoBongo>	Roughly 22 hrs ago is the first time I've been on IRC in almost decade, so I'm mostly just watching MP
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Feb 01 05:46:24 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 05:46:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.78302, Best ask: 20.79500, Bid-ask spread: 0.01198, Last trade: 20.79000, 24 hour volume: 87271.33217445, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.81702
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Feb 01 05:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00066059 = 2.9066 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 05:57:12 <BingoBongo>	mircea_popescu: Is the girl going to ever make peace with Mike Hearn?
Feb 01 06:15:09 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 06:15:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.74712, Best ask: 20.79500, Bid-ask spread: 0.04788, Last trade: 20.74712, 24 hour volume: 86489.92273006, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.81965
Feb 01 06:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo if he comes to sense im sure she will.
Feb 01 06:17:42 <BingoBongo>	I hope so, becaue I really like the bitcoinj clients
Feb 01 06:18:02 <mircea_popescu>	what;'s one to do with the other tho ? not like she'll kill him or anything
Feb 01 06:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	(and i happen to think anyone ever involved with java should just be hauled off to jail)
Feb 01 06:20:37 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140472.msg1495180#msg1495180 and so it begins. missing basic refunds.
Feb 01 06:21:17 <BingoBongo>	Maybe scare him off. I'm no big fan of Java. I just like how it is the only way I can run an SPV client that at least need to trust four times more voices than electrum
Feb 01 06:21:47 <BingoBongo>	And that Cablepair shit is so three hours ago
Feb 01 06:22:09 <mircea_popescu>	well i took a shower with the girls gimme a break.
Feb 01 06:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, if it scares him off from propping up interscamgro 5 days before it blows up it'll be a net gain for everyone, including himself.
Feb 01 06:23:37 <BingoBongo>	Didn't intersango die a month before GLBSE
Feb 01 06:24:33 <BingoBongo>	Or am I underestimating the lead in everybody's paint
Feb 01 06:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	i think both are true, this is quantum finance we're dealing with here.
Feb 01 06:25:06 <mircea_popescu>	at any rate phantomcircuit was still making announcements re withdrawals etc on haloween
Feb 01 06:26:06 <BingoBongo>	Intersango was done before the london meetup though and anyone who knew could smell it
Feb 01 06:26:34 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 06:26:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.71101, Best ask: 20.77999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06898, Last trade: 20.70251, 24 hour volume: 86070.35415238, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.82036
Feb 01 06:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	well yes in that sense.
Feb 01 06:32:41 <mircea_popescu>	it IS kinda getting stale that she has to individually bludgeon everyone into a pulp first.
Feb 01 06:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	you'd think people'd have enough sense to realise the relative positions and take it from there.
Feb 01 06:34:02 <BingoBongo>	A person would think, but sometimes it is necessary to get pick about what person should mean.
Feb 01 06:34:31 <BingoBongo>	It would be reasonable that the pirate fellow wiped out all of the people beneath that title
Feb 01 06:34:41 <BingoBongo>	Person being the title
Feb 01 06:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, i guess.
Feb 01 06:35:41 <mircea_popescu>	a well, she's young, well hydrated, i guess we find out who's left standing.
Feb 01 06:36:38 <BingoBongo>	Given the subjet they collided on hopefully both
Feb 01 06:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	i should expect so.
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Feb 01 06:37:59 <BingoBongo>	Of all the subjects they could have collided on, it was maximum block size
Feb 01 06:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	nah, they met before on something equally marginal
Feb 01 06:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	i'll have her fish it out.
Feb 01 06:39:12 <BingoBongo>	What could be more marginal? The only people who ought to care about maximum block size are dice games and people who bot them.
Feb 01 06:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	there's a problem with hard forks.
Feb 01 06:39:33 <BingoBongo>	Many problems
Feb 01 06:39:41 <mircea_popescu>	next year the us govt will ask for a hard fork to allow them to disallow selected transactions
Feb 01 06:40:13 <BingoBongo>	WHen you hard fork over one issue the temptation arises to just incorporate your Mary Poppins nanny wishlist
Feb 01 06:40:29 <BingoBongo>	USG may request, at least in parts
Feb 01 06:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, this "only evil people would care" argument is poisonous.
Feb 01 06:40:44 <BingoBongo>	I doubt the whole USG would though
Feb 01 06:41:01 <mircea_popescu>	obviously. that's the advantage of being a government : you ask in parts and benefit in whole.
Feb 01 06:41:56 <BingoBongo>	Three letter agencys from my understanding love the Armory client and its forcing new addresses for every transaction
Feb 01 06:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	d'oh.
Feb 01 06:43:17 <BingoBongo>	What transactions could they really disallow and still fund their favored people who can hold a tn
Feb 01 06:43:43 <mircea_popescu>	they wouldn't even use it. it's not a practical request.
Feb 01 06:45:42 <BingoBongo>	The most surprising thing about bitcoin would be if the USG doesn't ignore all of the things it says it opposes so it can leverage the BTC network to transfer value to its more expendable allies
Feb 01 06:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	there's no reason it wouldn't go both ways simultaneously.
Feb 01 06:47:06 <BingoBongo>	True
Feb 01 06:47:30 <BingoBongo>	I still imagine such an agency buying NVIDIA Teslas to mine with
Feb 01 06:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	that's more like 2015 on my calendar.
Feb 01 06:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	and it'll prolly just be homebrew.
Feb 01 06:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	aite, i got a meeting, bbl.
Feb 01 06:50:02 <BingoBongo>	Cool
Feb 01 06:50:29 <mircea_popescu>	a! just got this
Feb 01 06:50:29 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119073.msg1400494#msg1400494
Feb 01 06:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	was his take on capital markets lolz. anyway. later.
Feb 01 06:51:42 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 06:51:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.73101, Best ask: 20.79999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06898, Last trade: 20.79999, 24 hour volume: 84432.45122330, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.82546
Feb 01 06:52:03 <BingoBongo>	Holy fuck this shit turned stable
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Feb 01 07:07:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 07:10:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2401 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 07:18:00 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 07:18:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.67111, Best ask: 20.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02889, Last trade: 20.67110, 24 hour volume: 83562.51579923, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.83008
Feb 01 07:18:22 <gesell>	made a google web app script module whatever the hell they try to categorize it... that you can use in spreadsheets or other apps... that provides bitcoincharts (exchange data and weighted prices) and direct order book highs and lows from exchanges
Feb 01 07:18:23 <molecular>	I have long blond hair and a beard. I'm not telling you guys my gender, though.
Feb 01 07:18:24 <gesell>	https://script.google.com/macros/s/AKfycbxBLJGpX9Is2ZF5YfjR4XjqjEClHz_rogK-8wEup5N5LuuIGtMb/exec
Feb 01 07:18:39 <gesell>	waiting for it to get published to the apps gallery, then you can just install it into your spreadsheet and use the functions
Feb 01 07:19:19 <gesell>	if you want more markets let me know. i didnt put a donate link anywhere so, im not trying to mootch if someone has code they'd like to share
Feb 01 07:19:42 <gesell>	currently supports getting satoshidice counts, and mtgox, bitcoincentral and bitcoin24
Feb 01 07:19:50 <gesell>	in addition to ALL market data from bitcoincharts
Feb 01 07:19:57 <gesell>	see the link for examples
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Feb 01 07:20:59 <gesell>	should not be hard to build an arbitrage table using googlefinance("currency:USDEUR") functions along with this stuff
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Feb 01 07:22:16 <gesell>	if you just want the code, wait for it to show up in the gallery, or just tell me your gmail addr and ill share it
Feb 01 07:22:20 <gesell>	would be happy if others want to modify
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Feb 01 07:27:07 <Bugpowder>	mpex is f'd up?
Feb 01 07:28:56 <PsychoticBoy>	duh
Feb 01 07:29:09 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu Is there something wrong with STAT or ordering?  I place orders that the system accepts but they are not show in the STAT.
Feb 01 07:30:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 12 @ 0.0239 = 0.2868 BTC [+]
Feb 01 07:31:40 <gesell>	okay the google code from before i think you can add to an existing spreadsheet even before it shows up in the gallery by going to "manage libraries" within your own spreadsheets script code and add the library using key "Mn6asBLgiBkIwY9lK-po6dDe4GsftYgT-"
Feb 01 07:31:53 <gesell>	aaaanyway
Feb 01 07:32:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.024 = 2.4 BTC [+]
Feb 01 07:34:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.025 = 0.25 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 07:37:34 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin price collapsing, no way to trade options :(
Feb 01 07:38:45 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 07:38:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.47489, Best ask: 20.63189, Bid-ask spread: 0.15700, Last trade: 20.47489, 24 hour volume: 86995.67904068, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.81855
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Feb 01 07:39:37 <BingoBongo>	it looks awfully stable... for bitcoin
Feb 01 07:45:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.78 = 4.68 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 07:48:22 <BingoBongo>	Bugpowder: so Bitcoin is still above $20, how is it collapsing? (caveat time==now)
Feb 01 07:50:32 <Bugpowder>	3000bt sold in 5 minutes I felt powerless and vulnerable.
Feb 01 07:51:28 <Bugpowder>	I just want to be able to place orders
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Feb 01 08:06:39 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 08:06:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.75001, Best ask: 20.78562, Bid-ask spread: 0.03561, Last trade: 20.70001, 24 hour volume: 84892.49229867, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.82657
Feb 01 08:07:36 <BingoBongo>	So... Shit is pretty much where it has been for the past few hours... Maybe a bit higher...
Feb 01 08:10:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065366 = 2.8245 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3829 @ 0.00065331 = 2.5015 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10209 @ 0.00065331 = 6.6696 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1791 @ 0.00065178 = 1.1673 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3256 @ 0.00066397 = 2.1619 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10688 @ 0.00066617 = 7.12 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1156 @ 0.0006675 = 0.7716 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14713 @ 0.0006675 = 9.8209 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 837 @ 0.00066945 = 0.5603 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 470 @ 0.00721406 = 3.3906 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 401 @ 0.00717339 = 2.8765 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 170 @ 0.00714749 = 1.2151 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00066945 = 2.6109 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1446 @ 0.00066945 = 0.968 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00066952 = 2.9459 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00067101 = 2.6169 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1620 @ 0.00067171 = 1.0882 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00066424 = 8.1037 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00066294 = 4.4417 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00732394 = 14.6479 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00066294 = 5.1709 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00066294 = 2.1214 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31009 @ 0.00065178 = 20.211 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141 @ 0.00065091 = 0.0918 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10469 @ 0.00067154 = 7.0304 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3069 @ 0.00067171 = 2.0615 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 873 @ 0.00714749 = 6.2398 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8211 @ 0.00067171 = 5.5154 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12312 @ 0.00067379 = 8.2957 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00067379 = 4.7839 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00727162 = 2.9086 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00065264 = 4.699 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00065091 = 5.1422 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56500 @ 0.00067379 = 38.0691 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00732394 = 8.4225 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00065819 = 8.0628 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00065378 = 0.1961 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00066845 = 6.6177 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00067379 = 5.6181 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.0006765 = 6.7312 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6122 @ 0.0006775 = 4.1477 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1350 @ 0.00066845 = 0.9024 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00065226 = 4.7615 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00067135 = 9.466 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.0006775 = 3.7601 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:11:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.00730193 = 0.0511 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1730 @ 0.00730193 = 12.6323 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 63 @ 0.00730193 = 0.46 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 390 @ 0.00732394 = 2.8563 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 08:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 540 @ 0.00732394 = 3.9549 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:12:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 160 @ 0.00727162 = 1.1635 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:14:32 <BingoBongo>	So... I'm new to this shit. Is this channel always as boring as shit when mircea_popescu is away?
Feb 01 08:14:58 *	BingoBongo slaps @assbot with a trout
Feb 01 08:23:13 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 08:23:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.78501, Best ask: 20.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01499, Last trade: 20.79901, 24 hour volume: 82265.45116399, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.83914
Feb 01 08:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2578 @ 0.0006775 = 1.7466 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 422 @ 0.00067806 = 0.2861 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:24:53 <markedathome>	I name you Draco Malfoy >> <molecular> I have long blond hair and a beard. I'm not telling you guys my gender, though.
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Feb 01 08:33:07 <markedathome>	damning with praise --> Hopefully he does the right thing and for his credit he has givin us zero indication that he does not have full intention of doing the right thing.
Feb 01 08:34:37 <jurov>	we can discuss how np-hard is mpex order/trade/matching
Feb 01 08:34:50 <jurov>	but perhaps you'llbe bored
Feb 01 08:35:31 <markedathome>	for a " specialized devision[sic] of a huge corporate electronics manufacturer in Canada."
Feb 01 08:35:40 <markedathome>	oh god I've read the rest  https://www.bitcoinasic.net/
Feb 01 08:36:02 <markedathome>	has tom passed his madness to someone else?
Feb 01 08:36:20 <markedathome>	jurov: can it be made turing complete?
Feb 01 08:37:06 <jurov>	lol
Feb 01 08:37:34 <markedathome>	We currently have a full functioning and hashing prototype which we plan to bring to production next week.
Feb 01 08:38:20 <markedathome>	but they will include 25 FPGA hard copy ASICS
Feb 01 08:38:26 <jurov>	maybe i'll have to reserve the right to change last digit of price on coinbr orders so that shit can work better
Feb 01 08:39:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0073446 = 4.4068 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:39:34 <jurov>	or use mechanical turk, lol
Feb 01 08:40:25 <Bugpowder>	"gauranteed"
Feb 01 08:42:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.8 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 08:45:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.78 = 7.8 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:52:38 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 08:52:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.74000, Best ask: 20.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 20.75000, 24 hour volume: 81257.48105440, 24 hour low: 20.30000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.84567
Feb 01 08:53:08 <BingoBongo>	That spread closed up awfully tight
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Feb 01 08:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3899 @ 0.00067806 = 2.6438 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:53:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067806 = 2.9299 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8735 @ 0.00067807 = 5.9229 BTC [+]
Feb 01 08:53:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.2401 = 0.9604 BTC [-]
Feb 01 08:56:40 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 01 08:56:46 <Bugpowder>	panic averted
Feb 01 08:57:40 <Bugpowder>	mpex works again
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Feb 01 09:02:09 <gesell>	bleh, im not sure what is with google but... made a simple abitrage spreadsheet based on the Bitcoin Utilities google app I mentioned before. You can view it without a google account but apparently if you want to update the table you have to login with your google account. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AguYZ5-dWMgfdElhakdHQzhiQXp5emctdjZTNG9qaEE&usp=sharing#gid=0  It should then show you a BTC / Update menu. If it doesnt, go 
Feb 01 09:02:43 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 09:02:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.66118, Best ask: 20.79999, Bid-ask spread: 0.13881, Last trade: 20.66118, 24 hour volume: 80274.16082626, 24 hour low: 20.35000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.85245
Feb 01 09:04:07 <gesell>	the table doesnt take into account volume and the likes, yet
Feb 01 09:04:17 <markedathome>	take into account fees?
Feb 01 09:04:27 <markedathome>	also btc-e?
Feb 01 09:04:27 <gesell>	that either. not hard to add at some point
Feb 01 09:04:28 <gesell>	working on it
Feb 01 09:04:36 <gesell>	markedathome: ill add it
Feb 01 09:05:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.0074 = 1.48 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:05:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006738 = 2.9115 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14729 @ 0.00067355 = 9.9207 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:07:06 <markedathome>	did you see www.nyse-group.de/bitcoin-arbitrage when it was around? http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/7000316379/arbitrage-opportunities-view
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Feb 01 09:08:40 <gesell>	no i didnt
Feb 01 09:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3755 @ 0.00067807 = 2.5462 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067818 = 2.9304 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:08:45 <gesell>	aaah. yeah i saw that
Feb 01 09:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9024 @ 0.00067819 = 6.12 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:08:55 <gesell>	there are a couple of other abitrage tables that are public
Feb 01 09:09:04 <gesell>	somehow im getting close to the idea of google being the bot
Feb 01 09:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 345 @ 0.00727162 = 2.5087 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:09:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 457 @ 0.00714749 = 3.2664 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 98 @ 0.00711968 = 0.6977 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:09:28 <gesell>	grab a spreadsheet, give it your api keys and just keep your USD/EUR/GBP accounts up
Feb 01 09:09:57 <gesell>	would have to take into account volume and fees though
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Feb 01 09:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3821 @ 0.00067355 = 2.5736 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:13:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067272 = 2.9068 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3754 @ 0.00067271 = 2.5254 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 09:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00067271 = 14.5305 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:23:24 <pigeons>	here's a new one I didn't see on bitcoincharts yesterday https://www.libertybit.com
Feb 01 09:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0072832 = 2.185 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:23:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1723 @ 0.00067271 = 1.1591 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:23:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00067135 = 1.0742 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:23:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00066925 = 11.4442 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:23:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 473 @ 0.00066617 = 0.3151 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2204 @ 0.00066382 = 1.4631 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:32:46 <gesell>	markedathome: i added btc-e to the abitrage google table
Feb 01 09:33:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.845 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 09:34:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.86 = 22.36 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 09:38:55 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 09:38:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.78000, Best ask: 20.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 20.78000, 24 hour volume: 79739.64954537, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.85572
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Feb 01 09:47:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067784 = 2.9289 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:47:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16976 @ 0.00067819 = 11.513 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:47:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3853 @ 0.00067843 = 2.614 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:51:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:52:05 <gesell>	markedathome: updated google abitrate table to highlight those with possitive arbitrage percentiles. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AguYZ5-dWMgfdElhakdHQzhiQXp5emctdjZTNG9qaEE&usp=sharing
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Feb 01 09:55:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 766 @ 0.0072832 = 5.5789 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:55:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0073446 = 0.3672 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:55:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1144 @ 0.00734501 = 8.4027 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3162 @ 0.00735013 = 23.2411 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00736106 = 3.6805 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 09:55:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2878 @ 0.00737252 = 21.2181 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:56:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:56:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.89 = 2.67 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067818 = 2.9304 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6736 @ 0.00067843 = 4.5699 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00067844 = 6.7166 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89 @ 0.00067984 = 0.0605 BTC [+]
Feb 01 09:56:22 <gesell>	still, you wont see the BTC / Update menu to update the values uourself unless you have a google account
Feb 01 09:59:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.7801 = 14.0418 BTC [-]
Feb 01 09:59:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.75 = 7.5 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:02:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.75 = 3.75 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:02:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00737252 = 20.6431 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19265 @ 0.00067984 = 13.0971 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:02:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3535 @ 0.00068019 = 2.4045 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 10:07:43 <gesell>	okay now the google abitrage table updates every minute
Feb 01 10:08:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:08:50 <Bugpowder>	for now
Feb 01 10:10:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2673 @ 0.00067512 = 1.8046 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:13:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.745 = 5.96 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1515 @ 0.00068019 = 1.0305 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:15:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17285 @ 0.00068053 = 11.763 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:15:51 <jcpham>	what's new
Feb 01 10:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00068018 = 9.5225 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6713 @ 0.00068053 = 4.5684 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00068078 = 3.1656 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:16:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00068151 = 14.448 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00068184 = 8.7616 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 10:17:12 <markedathome>	btcfpga is even more up its own arse than previously thought possible.
Feb 01 10:18:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1648 @ 0.00067512 = 1.1126 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00067509 = 9.8226 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:18:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19352 @ 0.0006645 = 12.8594 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:18:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 10:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068157 = 2.9451 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2029 @ 0.00068184 = 1.3835 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:22:40 <kakobrekla>	markedathome how could that be
Feb 01 10:23:20 <markedathome>	read for yourself - https://www.bitcoinasic.net/
Feb 01 10:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4322 @ 0.00737252 = 31.864 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6000 @ 0.007375 = 44.25 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:24:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3350 @ 0.00737717 = 24.7135 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:24:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1328 @ 0.0073786 = 9.7988 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:25:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.75 = 11.25 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:26:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.007 = 0.7 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:26:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2547 @ 0.0074 = 18.8478 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:26:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7454 @ 0.0075 = 55.905 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:29:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.75 = 10.5 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 10:30:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00067443 = 11.6002 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067938 = 2.9356 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9279 @ 0.00067925 = 6.3028 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 10:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068163 = 2.9453 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:34:00 <gigavps_>	anyone talked with tytus from the forums?
Feb 01 10:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6821 @ 0.00068184 = 4.6508 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8608 @ 0.00068212 = 5.8717 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:34:11 <topace>	when does the s.dice dividend get paid ?
Feb 01 10:35:42 <Bugpowder>	any time now
Feb 01 10:35:46 <Bugpowder>	could be tonight
Feb 01 10:35:51 <Bugpowder>	could be in a few days
Feb 01 10:36:02 <Bugpowder>	erik will make an annoucement soon I bet
Feb 01 10:36:26 <Bugpowder>	last month it was the night of the first.
Feb 01 10:36:42 <Bugpowder>	but previous months as late as the 6th
Feb 01 10:36:55 <topace>	cool
Feb 01 10:38:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.75 = 10.5 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 10:38:40 <mjr_>	hi everyone!
Feb 01 10:38:42 <mjr_>	:)
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Feb 01 10:39:56 <jurov>	hihi
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Feb 01 10:41:09 <DeaDTerra1>	I am all synced and Erik was online latest yesterday evening, so he's not traveling
Feb 01 10:41:15 <DeaDTerra1>	so it should be sometime within 12 hours
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Feb 01 10:43:08 <Bugpowder>	there his is!
Feb 01 10:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3016 @ 0.00068212 = 2.0573 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:45:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00068225 = 4.0253 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:45:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00068225 = 1.8421 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00068249 = 4.7774 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:45:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00068261 = 4.1298 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34 @ 0.00068261 = 0.0232 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:46:15 <mjr_>	hey!
Feb 01 10:46:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.008 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:46:47 <mjr_>	what's new jurov?
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Feb 01 10:47:07 <jurov>	coinbr got two factor auth
Feb 01 10:47:15 <mjr_>	hmmm i gotta check that out
Feb 01 10:47:25 <jurov>	for withdrawals
Feb 01 10:47:27 <mjr_>	i'm in the process of setting up an ING direct account
Feb 01 10:47:38 <mjr_>	I wanted to use bitfloor
Feb 01 10:47:57 <mjr_>	any advice in that regard?
Feb 01 10:48:22 <mjr_>	mp said that they had a big issue...but other people said that they acknowledge that, but they still get money in and out
Feb 01 10:48:31 <jurov>	and i got a new record delay for mpex order surfacing.... amost one and half hour after placing three ordes surfaced and caused havoc
Feb 01 10:48:35 <mjr_>	either way, i don't want to withdraw cash just BTC
Feb 01 10:49:20 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 01 10:49:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.80000, Best ask: 20.80999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 20.80000, 24 hour volume: 71274.08274542, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.84875
Feb 01 10:49:22 <mjr_>	wait that is crazy
Feb 01 10:49:30 <mjr_>	what happened with mpex?
Feb 01 10:49:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.009 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:50:04 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 01 10:50:13 <Bugpowder>	It fucked up my options bot too
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Feb 01 10:50:40 <pigeons>	?
Feb 01 10:50:52 <Bugpowder>	It said it accepted orders, but they did not show up in STAT or the main book
Feb 01 10:50:58 <pigeons>	oh
Feb 01 10:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00068261 = 4.8465 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:51:06 <Bugpowder>	then an hour later, they all showed up
Feb 01 10:51:39 <Bugpowder>	nice.... thru 20.80, now for 20.81 to fall
Feb 01 10:51:58 <mjr_>	yeah that sucks
Feb 01 10:52:06 <mjr_>	quick question
Feb 01 10:52:16 <mjr_>	i really want to buy sdice shares
Feb 01 10:52:22 <mjr_>	but how does that work?
Feb 01 10:52:43 <mjr_>	how are shares transferred about?
Feb 01 10:53:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 130 @ 0.00721182 = 0.9375 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:53:19 <jurov>	mjr_, via coinbr you mean?
Feb 01 10:53:59 <pigeons>	yeah coinbr.com would be your best bet to start
Feb 01 10:54:10 <pigeons>	they are listed on mpex.co
Feb 01 10:54:18 <mjr_>	ok thanks
Feb 01 10:54:24 <mjr_>	i am watching them on mpex
Feb 01 10:54:30 <mjr_>	but i meant, ok i send bitcoins
Feb 01 10:54:38 <mjr_>	how do i receive shares?
Feb 01 10:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10166 @ 0.00068261 = 6.9394 BTC [+]
Feb 01 10:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5984 @ 0.00068325 = 4.0886 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 10:54:50 <pigeons>	you have an mpex account?
Feb 01 10:54:56 <mjr_>	no
Feb 01 10:55:01 <mjr_>	i want to eventually
Feb 01 10:55:07 <mjr_>	but for now i will go through one of the brokers i guess
Feb 01 10:55:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.7 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:55:12 <pigeons>	an mpex account is 30 btc, you can use coinbr instead
Feb 01 10:55:23 <pigeons>	jurov runs coinbr.com
Feb 01 10:55:23 <mjr_>	yeah i am gonna start that way
Feb 01 10:55:33 <pigeons>	he can help you out ;)
Feb 01 10:56:01 <gesell>	mjr_: use coinbr until you have more intense needs (api access or automated trading or just have enough btc invested you'd rather be closer to the exchange)
Feb 01 10:56:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4147 @ 0.00067925 = 2.8168 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:56:37 <mjr_>	yeah, coinbr looks awesome for my needs
Feb 01 10:56:48 <mjr_>	but again...how do i know i have the shares etc?
Feb 01 10:57:04 <gesell>	it just shows up on your account
Feb 01 10:57:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.6 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:57:14 <pigeons>	well jurov/coinbr holds the shares for you, but they will show in your account
Feb 01 10:57:14 <gesell>	you'll see the buy and sell go from coinbr onto mpex instantly
Feb 01 10:57:29 <gesell>	but yeah, basically coinbr owns your shares
Feb 01 10:57:36 <gesell>	or manages them for you
Feb 01 10:57:43 <mjr_>	ah ok, so technically the shares are in coinbr's name...
Feb 01 10:57:53 <mjr_>	makes sense, and thats fine
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Feb 01 10:58:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:58:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:58:04 <mjr_>	that is how it usually works
Feb 01 10:58:10 <mjr_>	i can't wait to do this...
Feb 01 10:58:13 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 01 10:58:17 <mjr_>	does anyone here own sdice?
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Feb 01 10:58:23 <Bugpowder>	if you want to get the dividend you shouldn't wait
Feb 01 10:58:33 <mjr_>	how often are dividends
Feb 01 10:58:37 <Bugpowder>	does anyone here NOT own sdice
Feb 01 10:58:41 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 01 10:58:43 <Bugpowder>	dividends are monthly
Feb 01 10:58:47 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 01 10:58:50 <Bugpowder>	and probably are coming today
Feb 01 10:58:58 <mjr_>	so not that big of a deal if i wait till next month
Feb 01 10:58:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3501 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:59:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5 BTC [-]
Feb 01 10:59:13 <mjr_>	wait...they don't tell you when? AND you can buy the shares on the day of and still get in?
Feb 01 10:59:23 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 01 10:59:28 <Bugpowder>	you can watch the performance all month
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Feb 01 10:59:54 <mjr_>	usually there is a date on which all owners of the stock get paid their dividend...but you can't just buy it the day before and get it
Feb 01 10:59:57 <mjr_>	so that is cool
Feb 01 11:00:07 <Bugpowder>	20,067.37 in profit this month
Feb 01 11:00:19 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 01 11:00:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00651702 / 0.00715008 / 0.0073786 (74563 shares, 533.13 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00722914 / 0.0075 (632931 shares, 4,575.55 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00479708 / 0.0075 (6535153 shares, 31,349.67 BTC)
Feb 01 11:00:21 <mjr_>	that is denominated in btc right?
Feb 01 11:00:26 <Bugpowder>	yah
Feb 01 11:00:41 <Bugpowder>	about 2.9% dividend at current prices.
Feb 01 11:00:56 <Bugpowder>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dG5SQklHZG4wRm1GMW9DRWpMMW5UQkE#gid=10
Feb 01 11:01:02 <mjr_>	yeah i have that up
Feb 01 11:01:08 <mjr_>	but it lists like 80%
Feb 01 11:01:12 <mjr_>	which seemed weird
Feb 01 11:01:27 <Bugpowder>	look at the january 2013 sheet
Feb 01 11:01:31 <Bugpowder>	that is the revelant data
Feb 01 11:02:07 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 2000 / 10000000
Feb 01 11:02:08 <gribble>	0.0002
Feb 01 11:02:14 <Bugpowder>	.0002 / share
Feb 01 11:02:21 <mjr_>	why did you use that big number?
Feb 01 11:02:36 <Bugpowder>	10 million shares are on mpex
Feb 01 11:02:44 <mjr_>	if profits are 2000
Feb 01 11:02:54 <mjr_>	oh that must be the volume then right?
Feb 01 11:03:04 <Bugpowder>	10% of float = 10 million, dividend goes to all shares
Feb 01 11:03:04 <mjr_>	where it says 74563
Feb 01 11:03:10 <Bugpowder>	wat?
Feb 01 11:03:30 <mjr_>	assbot just gave out the info on sdice
Feb 01 11:03:41 <mjr_>	1d 7d 30d
Feb 01 11:03:51 <Bugpowder>	current ask is .00721
Feb 01 11:04:10 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 2000/10000000/.00721
Feb 01 11:04:11 <gribble>	0.0277392510402
Feb 01 11:04:21 <Bugpowder>	2.774 % dividend at current ask
Feb 01 11:04:31 <mjr_>	thanks
Feb 01 11:04:33 <mjr_>	still pretty sweet
Feb 01 11:04:41 <mjr_>	and that is monthly
Feb 01 11:05:11 <mjr_>	so the first page was probably talking about annualized yield assuming a much cheaper price
Feb 01 11:05:18 <mjr_>	is that right?
Feb 01 11:05:43 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 01 11:05:46 <Bugpowder>	the IPO price
Feb 01 11:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8426 @ 0.00066543 = 5.6069 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:06:30 <mjr_>	i'm loving this
Feb 01 11:06:39 <mjr_>	if only it wasn't so hard to get bitcoins
Feb 01 11:06:42 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE has a profit of 1000 for Feb.
Feb 01 11:06:49 <mjr_>	wow
Feb 01 11:06:53 <mjr_>	its the first day
Feb 01 11:07:02 *	Guest38514 is now known as evoorhees
Feb 01 11:07:33 <mjr_>	i know its obviously anonymous, but is there any info on where the primary demographic is located?
Feb 01 11:08:03 <Bugpowder>	nope
Feb 01 11:08:24 <mjr_>	is there any info besides the financials that we can look at?
Feb 01 11:08:31 <mjr_>	ie. growth potential
Feb 01 11:08:54 <mjr_>	how do people find out about it, and is there any effort to get the word out to more people...just curious right now how it all works
Feb 01 11:08:58 <Bugpowder>	this is a good place to start
Feb 01 11:08:59 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.800
Feb 01 11:09:14 <Bugpowder>	or ask this guy "Guest38514 has changed nick to evoorhees"
Feb 01 11:09:54 <jurov>	mjr_ we don't even know how many ppl use bitcoins. or at least how many actually own 1BTC or more
Feb 01 11:09:56 <mjr_>	lol, yeah i know it's his company
Feb 01 11:10:12 <mjr_>	yeah, but i believe...and i could be wrong
Feb 01 11:10:18 <mjr_>	that you could see the ip address sending
Feb 01 11:10:42 <mjr_>	and at that point it is trivial to make broad strokes guesses about what region most traffic comes from
Feb 01 11:10:50 <mjr_>	obviously some may use tor
Feb 01 11:10:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066452 = 2.8714 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066451 = 6.6451 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:10:54 <mjr_>	which may skew the results
Feb 01 11:10:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4224 @ 0.0006645 = 2.8068 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:10:55 <jurov>	you mean on blockchain.info? that is only ip where that site got it from
Feb 01 11:11:19 <mjr_>	huh? i mean in order to send a bitcoin, is there not any ip info?
Feb 01 11:11:26 <jurov>	yes there is some statistic about number of live nodes... but it decresases despite users' count obviously increases
Feb 01 11:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00721182 = 2.8847 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:11:41 <jurov>	cause many users use shared wallets
Feb 01 11:11:46 <mjr_>	good point
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Feb 01 11:12:08 <Bugpowder>	many of the coins from the big bettors appear to have been run thru a mixer
Feb 01 11:12:11 <mjr_>	but i was just curious as to are most users european or asian or american
Feb 01 11:12:25 <jurov>	mjr_ see google trends
Feb 01 11:12:32 <Bugpowder>	I am guessing asian
Feb 01 11:12:33 <mjr_>	awesome
Feb 01 11:12:37 <jurov>	i think we dont' have anything better
Feb 01 11:12:37 <mjr_>	that was my guess as well
Feb 01 11:13:39 <jurov>	google trends shows russia on the top :D
Feb 01 11:13:59 <jurov>	asia not so much
Feb 01 11:14:32 <Bugpowder>	for bitcoin
Feb 01 11:14:42 <jurov>	yes
Feb 01 11:15:16 <mjr_>	oh if you search satoshi dice...not enough info
Feb 01 11:15:18 <mjr_>	which makes sense
Feb 01 11:15:37 <mjr_>	as most people probably don't need to google it by the time they are in the community
Feb 01 11:15:44 <mjr_>	but also...it;s a website
Feb 01 11:15:51 <mjr_>	so if you point your browser at it
Feb 01 11:15:58 <mjr_>	he'll see the requesting ip
Feb 01 11:16:12 <mjr_>	and could make some broad guesses as to demographic
Feb 01 11:16:25 <mjr_>	if it is primarily russian, and asia is not so big yet, then growth potential is huge
Feb 01 11:16:53 <mjr_>	if it is mostly asian, with some others, growth is slower, although still i expect going to be robust
Feb 01 11:17:28 <jurov>	actually as chinese can't access google, it may be stronger there
Feb 01 11:17:28 <mjr_>	so i'm just thinking of how much of my bitcoin portfolio i would want to invest in this
Feb 01 11:17:34 <mjr_>	good point
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Feb 01 11:18:16 <jurov>	also, satoshidice isn't translated iirc. russians have less problem with english than asians
Feb 01 11:18:19 <mjr_>	it's not really super important, but emerging markets are big money, so i was curious as to expansion plans, etc, their expenses are so low
Feb 01 11:18:32 <mjr_>	localization could be a huge feature
Feb 01 11:19:01 <jurov>	heck, even MP plans to localize mpex :P
Feb 01 11:19:10 <mjr_>	i mean, i would be bullish on it regardless...the only question is how bullish
Feb 01 11:19:39 <jurov>	throw a dice on it
Feb 01 11:19:43 <jurov>	hahaha
Feb 01 11:19:47 <mjr_>	but after this convo, i think that there is a ton of growth potential
Feb 01 11:19:48 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 01 11:20:07 <mjr_>	so i am thinking that the returns will be great...appreciation and dividends
Feb 01 11:20:22 <mjr_>	i think we talked about my plan last time i was on
Feb 01 11:20:26 <mjr_>	iirc
Feb 01 11:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066525 = 2.8745 BTC [+]
Feb 01 11:20:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29279 @ 0.00066543 = 19.4831 BTC [+]
Feb 01 11:20:48 <mjr_>	30 day return from just bitcoins is around 25%
Feb 01 11:21:05 <mjr_>	but i am thinking of also using options and sdice to pad the portfolio
Feb 01 11:21:29 <mjr_>	hopefully giving investors an index of the entire bitcoin economy eventually, not just a currency index
Feb 01 11:22:21 <mjr_>	tbh...i am kinda glad that huge spike stopped, it was a bit scary
Feb 01 11:22:32 <jurov>	what about option/futures?
Feb 01 11:22:36 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 01 11:22:49 <jurov>	especially mpex futures need someone to marketmake them
Feb 01 11:22:50 <mjr_>	options, futures and sdice, bullish bitcoin portfolio
Feb 01 11:23:18 <mjr_>	i told you my plan is to open a publicly traded company in the real exchanges
Feb 01 11:23:29 <jurov>	yes i saw it
Feb 01 11:23:31 <mjr_>	to hopefully act as a bridge
Feb 01 11:23:41 <mjr_>	to channel demand into the bitcoin economy
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Feb 01 11:24:10 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin etf
Feb 01 11:24:12 <Bugpowder>	or etn
Feb 01 11:24:14 <mjr_>	so i am picturing it as an open fund, where as we release shares, we just increase our holdings, and long bitcoin bets
Feb 01 11:24:21 <mjr_>	exactly
Feb 01 11:24:29 <mjr_>	etf
Feb 01 11:24:43 <mjr_>	the requirements to get on pink sheets is ridiculously low
Feb 01 11:24:44 <Bugpowder>	so who do you know
Feb 01 11:24:51 <mjr_>	so it won't be a TRUE etf
Feb 01 11:25:00 <mjr_>	it'll be a pseudo etf
Feb 01 11:25:11 <Bugpowder>	I would like to open a real ETF
Feb 01 11:25:22 <mjr_>	but in the end after all, it will track the bitcoin economy
Feb 01 11:25:24 <Chilca>	who is currently working to open a real ETF?
Feb 01 11:25:29 <Bugpowder>	I can only imagine the regulatory shit
Feb 01 11:25:30 <mjr_>	good luck with the SEC
Feb 01 11:25:38 <Bugpowder>	it might be possible
Feb 01 11:25:43 <Bugpowder>	with the right connections and support
Feb 01 11:25:47 <mjr_>	you will need millions of dollars
Feb 01 11:25:55 <mjr_>	and that is just for lawyers and underwriters
Feb 01 11:26:02 <Bugpowder>	yes
Feb 01 11:26:14 <Bugpowder>	You would need to partner with an existing firm
Feb 01 11:26:16 <mjr_>	i think i can have mine up and running for 50k
Feb 01 11:26:22 <mjr_>	i know i can actually
Feb 01 11:26:23 <Bugpowder>	State street for example
Feb 01 11:26:30 <mjr_>	they won't do it
Feb 01 11:26:33 <mjr_>	i wish they would
Feb 01 11:26:39 <mjr_>	but they probably won't for quite some time
Feb 01 11:26:39 <Bugpowder>	how do you know
Feb 01 11:26:44 <mjr_>	i don't
Feb 01 11:27:03 <mjr_>	i am in the finance world, but i have no information about bitcoin etf's
Feb 01 11:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 524 @ 0.0006645 = 0.3482 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066383 = 2.8684 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:27:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12386 @ 0.00066382 = 8.2221 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:27:26 <mjr_>	i know some guys at goldman who are interested on a personal level
Feb 01 11:27:33 <mjr_>	but i don't think interest has percolated to an institutional level yet
Feb 01 11:27:43 <Bugpowder>	you need to know some bigger fish
Feb 01 11:28:03 <mjr_>	what i am saying is that if i knew lloyd blankfein, i couldn't get it to happne
Feb 01 11:28:23 <Bugpowder>	what is the main issue?
Feb 01 11:28:27 <Bugpowder>	regualtory complience
Feb 01 11:28:28 <mjr_>	they would politely say "that is interesting"
Feb 01 11:28:32 <Bugpowder>	exchanging into and out
Feb 01 11:28:45 <Bugpowder>	lack of market cap
Feb 01 11:28:47 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 01 11:28:47 <mjr_>	regulatory issues
Feb 01 11:28:49 <mjr_>	i don't know what the SEC would make of bitcoins
Feb 01 11:28:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 195 @ 0.00715136 = 1.3945 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:29:01 <mjr_>	well, if i had goldman sachs doing it, market cap wouldn't be a problem
Feb 01 11:29:12 <mjr_>	but yes, you have to capitalize it very well
Feb 01 11:29:16 <mjr_>	millions more
Feb 01 11:29:30 <Bugpowder>	I don't think it would be hard to raise millions
Feb 01 11:29:37 <mjr_>	i'm not saying it isn't possible, i'm hjust saying no one is willing to take the risk right now
Feb 01 11:29:40 <Bugpowder>	if you can create the product
Feb 01 11:29:41 <mjr_>	cuz they don't understand it
Feb 01 11:29:49 <mjr_>	once i create mine, others may follow
Feb 01 11:29:54 <mjr_>	when they see it as viable
Feb 01 11:30:09 <Bugpowder>	how do you solve the regulatory issue?
Feb 01 11:30:19 <Chilca>	I know a VC really interested to invest in VTC. so if  you guys have a good plan, I can help you to introduce to him.
Feb 01 11:30:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5110 @ 0.00066382 = 3.3921 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 990 @ 0.00065988 = 0.6533 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:30:28 <mjr_>	what is vtc?
Feb 01 11:30:34 <Bugpowder>	a typo
Feb 01 11:30:37 <mjr_>	lol ok
Feb 01 11:30:39 <mjr_>	awesome
Feb 01 11:30:42 <mjr_>	well this is my plan
Feb 01 11:30:43 <Chilca>	BTC
Feb 01 11:30:55 <mjr_>	you don't even have to talk to the SEC for pink sheets
Feb 01 11:31:04 <mjr_>	it is purely a listing service
Feb 01 11:31:11 <mjr_>	not like NYSE etc
Feb 01 11:31:31 <mjr_>	you could literally create a company called ScamCorp
Feb 01 11:31:39 <mjr_>	and put it up on the pink sheets
Feb 01 11:31:52 <mjr_>	and it would not cost much, there are a million ways to go public
Feb 01 11:32:00 <mjr_>	well, ok maybe not a million
Feb 01 11:32:03 <mjr_>	but it is simple
Feb 01 11:32:10 <mjr_>	the easiest way to do ti
Feb 01 11:32:11 <mjr_>	it
Feb 01 11:32:14 <mjr_>	is a reverse merger
Feb 01 11:32:26 <mjr_>	you basically buy/merge with an existing shell corporation
Feb 01 11:32:36 <mjr_>	then change your name
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Feb 01 11:32:41 <mjr_>	boom, you are now a listed company
Feb 01 11:32:46 <mjr_>	you can also do a DPO
Feb 01 11:32:50 <mjr_>	direct public offering
Feb 01 11:32:56 <mjr_>	but that takes a little more regulatory work
Feb 01 11:33:04 <mjr_>	register with state
Feb 01 11:33:06 <mjr_>	stuff like that
Feb 01 11:33:09 <Chilca>	mjr_: where are you located?
Feb 01 11:33:13 <mjr_>	NYC
Feb 01 11:33:14 <Bugpowder>	sounds easy
Feb 01 11:33:19 <Bugpowder>	why are you not doing it
Feb 01 11:33:23 <mjr_>	yes, it is easy
Feb 01 11:33:29 <mjr_>	um...to buy a company takes money
Feb 01 11:33:37 <Bugpowder>	how much
Feb 01 11:33:40 <mjr_>	reverse merger would cost 50k maybe more
Feb 01 11:33:52 <mjr_>	and we have not even touched the issue of actually funding the fund
Feb 01 11:33:58 <Bugpowder>	funding is easy
Feb 01 11:34:04 <Bugpowder>	50k is peanuts
Feb 01 11:34:14 <mjr_>	it may well be
Feb 01 11:34:17 <Bugpowder>	for a startup
Feb 01 11:34:19 <mjr_>	but i don't have it at the moment
Feb 01 11:34:23 <Bugpowder>	or for anyone in finance.
Feb 01 11:34:25 <mjr_>	and yes its nothing for a VC
Feb 01 11:34:44 <mjr_>	i am not a CEO or something
Feb 01 11:34:59 <Chilca>	mjr_: send me a DM, we can talk privately. Maybe I can help you
Feb 01 11:35:05 <mjr_>	just an employee at a financial technology company with a couple broker dealer subsidiaries
Feb 01 11:35:07 <Chilca>	I'm on the West coast
Feb 01 11:35:39 <mjr_>	um...don't laugh, how do i send a DM
Feb 01 11:36:20 <mjr_>	i basically know how to join a group that's it
Feb 01 11:36:42 <Chilca>	mjr_: I just sent you a DM message
Feb 01 11:36:43 <Bugpowder>	"/msg"
Feb 01 11:37:43 <Bugpowder>	probably need to raise 50M to make it worth it
Feb 01 11:37:56 <Bugpowder>	manage that is
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Feb 01 11:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3331 @ 0.00065988 = 2.1981 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1169 @ 0.00065987 = 0.7714 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 11:43:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0079 = 0.0237 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 11:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3628 @ 0.00065987 = 2.394 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 172 @ 0.00065858 = 0.1133 BTC [-]
Feb 01 11:47:18 <mjr_>	yep
Feb 01 11:47:37 <mjr_>	a real etf will be very difficult and that is a sizable bet for something no one has heard of and dn't understand
Feb 01 11:47:51 <mjr_>	so if i start a smaller thing
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Feb 01 11:47:56 <mjr_>	and then people see that it is viable
Feb 01 11:47:58 <tsukino>	hi
Feb 01 11:48:05 <mjr_>	hi
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Feb 01 11:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066504 = 2.8736 BTC [+]
Feb 01 11:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00066505 = 10.009 BTC [+]
Feb 01 11:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4679 @ 0.00066543 = 3.1135 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 12:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066538 = 2.8751 BTC [-]
Feb 01 12:02:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6629 @ 0.00066543 = 4.4111 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 12:06:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00711971 = 2.4919 BTC [-]
Feb 01 12:06:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.0071197 = 8.8996 BTC [-]
Feb 01 12:09:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.74000001 = 1.48 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 12:13:31 <jborkl>	A properly fromatted order in mpex.py? mpex.py BUY ...?
Feb 01 12:13:40 <jborkl>	formatted
Feb 01 12:16:53 <smickles>	'BUY|IN.ASSBOT|6|9'
Feb 01 12:16:56 <smickles>	;)
Feb 01 12:17:15 <smickles>	it's the same as a regular mpex command
Feb 01 12:17:54 <smickles>	if you give me an example of what you want to do (in english) i'll repeat it in a pympex command
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Feb 01 12:19:22 <jborkl>	I just don't want to fuck up, so  BUY S.DICE 50000 .0065
Feb 01 12:19:47 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Feb 01 12:19:48 <gribble>	You are identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
Feb 01 12:20:00 <smickles>	BUY|S.DICE|50000|00650000
Feb 01 12:20:10 <jborkl>	Thank you smickles
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Feb 01 12:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00065891 = 2.8333 BTC [-]
Feb 01 12:24:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 559 @ 0.00715136 = 3.9976 BTC [+]
Feb 01 12:25:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 970 @ 0.00721182 = 6.9955 BTC [+]
Feb 01 12:26:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.0073786 = 13.6504 BTC [+]
Feb 01 12:27:42 <gesell>	google abitrage table updated with mouse over information giving exact price
Feb 01 12:28:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2633 @ 0.00738637 = 19.4483 BTC [+]
Feb 01 12:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 464 @ 0.00719797 = 3.3399 BTC [-]
Feb 01 12:32:59 <jurov>	jborkl, if you use pympex, -h shows an example
Feb 01 12:33:38 <jborkl>	oh, thanks I see that
Feb 01 12:35:22 <thestringpuller>	jurov: you are niko bellic
Feb 01 12:35:22 <jurov>	the quotes are necessary, otherwise shell will do undesirable things
Feb 01 12:35:33 <jurov>	thestringpuller wat?
Feb 01 12:35:40 <thestringpuller>	;;google niko bellic
Feb 01 12:35:41 <gribble>	Niko Bellic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niko_Bellic>; Niko Bellic - GTA Wiki, the Grand Theft Auto Wiki - GTA IV, San ...: <http://gta.wikia.com/Niko_Bellic>; Grand Theft Auto IV: Niko Bellic Trailer - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEXQRyx8bmk>
Feb 01 12:36:14 *	jurov looks
Feb 01 12:36:24 <jurov>	never played GTA
Feb 01 12:37:02 <jurov>	former soldier with violent past? muhahaahahaaa
Feb 01 12:37:19 <jurov>	they didn't even admit me to army cause of my deafness
Feb 01 12:38:36 <smickles>	damn, are hardcore, like they play the game of life on a higher difficulty setting than i do
Feb 01 12:38:48 <jurov>	thestringpuller, how did you came around such association?
Feb 01 12:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3239 @ 0.00066071 = 2.14 BTC [+]
Feb 01 12:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14019 @ 0.00066321 = 9.2975 BTC [+]
Feb 01 12:39:29 <thestringpuller>	you said you were slavic
Feb 01 12:39:42 <kakobrekla>	lol his surname is belic
Feb 01 12:39:51 <kakobrekla>	would translate to 'whitey'
Feb 01 12:40:12 <jurov>	i'm slovak. as in former czechoslovakia
Feb 01 12:40:19 <thestringpuller>	oh
Feb 01 12:40:33 <jurov>	kako here is slovenian. as in yougoslavia :D
Feb 01 12:40:40 <jurov>	*yugoslavia
Feb 01 12:40:48 <kakobrekla>	TITO!
Feb 01 12:40:48 <thestringpuller>	I feel so uncultured.. :(
Feb 01 12:41:18 <jurov>	don't worry we have fun of it
Feb 01 12:41:21 <smickles>	naw, you'r just 'merican
Feb 01 12:42:07 <thestringpuller>	it's funny how eastern europe is better at capitalism than most americans
Feb 01 12:42:16 <thestringpuller>	'murican's want entitlement
Feb 01 12:42:26 <jurov>	O.o
Feb 01 12:42:31 <jurov>	why do you think?
Feb 01 12:44:21 <thestringpuller>	Most American children from my generation believe they are entitled to a standard of living and do not have to work for it.
Feb 01 12:44:25 <smickles>	http://youtu.be/ria37d9mInY?t=4s << relevant
Feb 01 12:44:40 <smickles>	oh, wron link
Feb 01 12:44:45 <smickles>	one sec
Feb 01 12:44:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00066321 = 8.0248 BTC [+]
Feb 01 12:44:56 <thestringpuller>	seinfeld rules though
Feb 01 12:45:22 <smickles>	http://youtu.be/kqhX_X7CN2s?t=4s
Feb 01 12:45:35 <jurov>	lol thestringpuller, you weren't around here in 1989 . everyone was thinking we are entitled to live as western europe
Feb 01 12:45:44 <thestringpuller>	lolo
Feb 01 12:45:54 <jurov>	but thee economic crunch came and everyome had to move their ass
Feb 01 12:46:03 <jurov>	except east germans
Feb 01 12:46:17 <thestringpuller>	i guess one can thank the cold war for that?
Feb 01 12:46:41 <jurov>	40 years in fridge? yeah, of course.
Feb 01 12:46:58 <smickles>	http://youtu.be/kqhX_X7CN2s?t=1m39s
Feb 01 12:47:04 <smickles>	is were it gets really good
Feb 01 12:47:09 <smickles>	noodles kid
Feb 01 12:47:49 <smickles>	listen to the way this kid describes working at noodles
Feb 01 12:48:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00739498 = 7.395 BTC [+]
Feb 01 12:51:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00739499 = 22.185 BTC [+]
Feb 01 12:54:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.79 = 7.9 BTC [+]
Feb 01 12:54:20 <jurov>	oh, quite some mpex depositing action is ensuing today
Feb 01 12:54:33 <thestringpuller>	did s.dice pay divs?
Feb 01 12:54:38 <DeaDTerra>	Not yet
Feb 01 12:54:39 <jurov>	not yet
Feb 01 12:54:43 <DeaDTerra>	I talked to Erik
Feb 01 12:54:48 <DeaDTerra>	it will be later tonight or tomorrow
Feb 01 12:55:00 <thestringpuller>	DeaDTerra: when's the last time you talked to Erik
Feb 01 12:55:14 <thestringpuller>	we had a meeting scheduled yesterday but I had to cancel due to work
Feb 01 12:55:57 <jurov>	it's that time every month: http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/05/14/news/web_galleries/g_weekly_animals/animals_photos013--500x380.jpg
Feb 01 13:01:58 <gesell>	added bitstamp to the google abitrage table, as well as the google libraries "bitcoin utilities"  I think im done for now https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AguYZ5-dWMgfdElhakdHQzhiQXp5emctdjZTNG9qaEE&usp=sharing
Feb 01 13:02:10 <gesell>	updates once every minute
Feb 01 13:02:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 17 @ 0.009 = 0.153 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:02:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 42 @ 0.0091 = 0.3822 BTC [+]
Feb 01 13:03:06 <gesell>	seems bitcoin-central kind of sucks
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Feb 01 13:04:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 50 @ 0.0092 = 0.46 BTC [+]
Feb 01 13:07:59 <DeaDTerra>	I talked to Erik about an hour ago :)
Feb 01 13:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00065891 = 0.0138 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:09:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065859 = 2.8458 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:09:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3658 @ 0.00065858 = 2.4091 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 13:17:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0245 = 2.45 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:19:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
Feb 01 13:19:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1631 @ 0.00066321 = 1.0817 BTC [+]
Feb 01 13:19:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066542 = 2.8753 BTC [+]
Feb 01 13:19:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066542 = 2.8753 BTC [+]
Feb 01 13:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5190 @ 0.00066543 = 3.4536 BTC [+]
Feb 01 13:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7287 @ 0.00066655 = 4.8571 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 13:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00739498 = 2.958 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00739499 = 2.2185 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 13:27:49 <maximian>	look at them sweet, sweet s.dice profits: http://blockchain.info/address/1GS6iZkXMd2sL4tBHTVG1L7Gg6FjNPWYP1
Feb 01 13:28:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065897 = 2.8474 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:28:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1279 @ 0.00065865 = 0.8424 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 13:35:50 <ssssssss>	!help
Feb 01 13:35:51 <assbot>	List of commands:
Feb 01 13:35:52 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Feb 01 13:35:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065878 = 2.8466 BTC [+]
Feb 01 13:35:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065875 = 2.8465 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:35:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15558 @ 0.00065865 = 10.2473 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 13:38:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3163 @ 0.00065865 = 2.0833 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2156 @ 0.00065858 = 1.4199 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:40:18 <Bugpowder>	maximian Noice
Feb 01 13:40:54 <Bugpowder>	$21
Feb 01 13:41:15 <Bugpowder>	NOICE
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Feb 01 13:41:42 <maximian>	and you can see that 2,005.05917863 of it was sent to mpex
Feb 01 13:41:58 <Bugpowder>	yup
Feb 01 13:42:10 <Bugpowder>	brace yourselves
Feb 01 13:42:16 <Bugpowder>	a dividend is coming
Feb 01 13:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8724 @ 0.00065858 = 5.7455 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6735 @ 0.00065771 = 4.4297 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5880 @ 0.00065766 = 3.867 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 13:44:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1177 @ 0.00734696 = 8.6474 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 13:50:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.79 = 7.11 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 13:51:47 <DeaDTerra>	Anyone know when Mircea's coming online to process the deposits?
Feb 01 13:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00065766 = 1.9401 BTC [-]
Feb 01 13:54:50 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 01 13:54:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.92002, Best ask: 21.00999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08997, Last trade: 20.92001, 24 hour volume: 51619.16184093, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.24500, 24 hour vwap: 20.74138
Feb 01 13:55:08 <Bugpowder>	rally on
Feb 01 13:58:36 <error4733>	rally4ever
Feb 01 14:01:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 317 @ 0.00734696 = 2.329 BTC [-]
Feb 01 14:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1229 @ 0.00723267 = 8.889 BTC [-]
Feb 01 14:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	hey all
Feb 01 14:02:26 <jurov>	'ello
Feb 01 14:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066635 = 2.8793 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9030 @ 0.00066655 = 6.0189 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:03:03 *	mircea_popescu reads up teh pages
Feb 01 14:03:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.785 = 3.925 BTC [-]
Feb 01 14:03:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.79 = 11.85 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	<mjr_> usually there is a date on which all owners  << yeah, there's no postdate.
Feb 01 14:04:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2221 @ 0.00723267 = 16.0638 BTC [-]
Feb 01 14:04:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 679 @ 0.00721781 = 4.9009 BTC [-]
Feb 01 14:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> with the right connections and support << would be pretty grand.
Feb 01 14:06:48 <DeaDTerra>	Hello :), I have a deposit off 200 BTC could you credit my account with it.
Feb 01 14:07:13 <jurov>	it's YOU
Feb 01 14:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> BUY|S.DICE|50000|00650000 << do you find it more convenient with the lead 0s ?
Feb 01 14:08:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1433 @ 0.00066655 = 0.9552 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066819 = 2.8872 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5474 @ 0.0006682 = 3.6577 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:08:40 <DeaDTerra>	indeed it's me
Feb 01 14:08:51 <jurov>	;)
Feb 01 14:08:56 <DeaDTerra>	not sure if Mircea is still ignoring me or not :P so if someone can qoute me that would be awesome
Feb 01 14:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> except east germans << east german girls still had to move their ass...
Feb 01 14:10:05 <jurov>	deadterra, i have uncredited deposits, too. stay in queue. :)
Feb 01 14:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol lessee here.
Feb 01 14:10:25 <DeaDTerra>	haha :P oki ^^ Just wanted to make sure the message was heard
Feb 01 14:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	ok, deposits flushed.
Feb 01 14:12:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 26666 @ 0.00739499 = 197.1948 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:14:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 480 @ 0.00739499 = 3.5496 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:14:41 <mircea_popescu>	so about webserver desync earlier : mpex uses a (trade server) - (web server) architecture. you can't talk to the trade engine directly.
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Feb 01 14:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	that link can get broken, it shouldn't happen to often but it does happen
Feb 01 14:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	the result is new trades not being reported. they DO happen, you just don't hear about them.
Feb 01 14:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	basically what happens is you send order X, mpex says "will be processed" and "nothing happens".
Feb 01 14:16:01 <mircea_popescu>	something does happen, you just don't hear about it till the webserver resyncs
Feb 01 14:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	working to make all this smoother, but traffic just keeps going up.
Feb 01 14:17:15 <Namworld>	Ah, you will need to add a server or two maybe.
Feb 01 14:17:26 <Namworld>	Looks like MPEx is growing
Feb 01 14:18:22 <jurov>	the issue is that after desync is done, one ends up with bunch of only weakly identifiable transactions
Feb 01 14:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	jurov the thing is tho, order of orders is preserved
Feb 01 14:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	you should be able to recognise them by the order you put them in
Feb 01 14:19:50 <mircea_popescu>	is that problematic ?
Feb 01 14:19:55 <jurov>	but i mean order of trades, are they in any useful order?
Feb 01 14:20:28 <mircea_popescu>	um.
Feb 01 14:20:36 <mircea_popescu>	you put order A in. then B. then C.
Feb 01 14:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	when server resyncs order execution is reported ABC
Feb 01 14:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	not CAB or w/e
Feb 01 14:21:22 <mircea_popescu>	suppose you do SELL|X|1000 then SELL|X|1000
Feb 01 14:21:34 <jurov>	you mean the "TradeHistory" part of statjson?
Feb 01 14:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	when mpes says 500@3 200@4 300@5 750@6
Feb 01 14:22:07 <mircea_popescu>	this means first 1k executed 3,4,5 and 750 of the 2nd 1k executed 6
Feb 01 14:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	one second i'll check on trade history too so i don't say something stupid
Feb 01 14:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00739499 = 9.9832 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:23:41 <jurov>	i have no issue with "Book" part. once order appears ther all is willy nilly.
Feb 01 14:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	jurov trade history is also sorted list.descending, historically.
Feb 01 14:24:55 <jurov>	first by order, then by time?
Feb 01 14:25:06 <jborkl>	is there a ex-div date, or what the server has in it the second the div is pushed?
Feb 01 14:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	jurov what do you mean first by order ?
Feb 01 14:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl no exdate. whoever has shares when divs are pushed gets divs.
Feb 01 14:26:40 <jborkl>	Thanks
Feb 01 14:27:48 <jurov>	just a small confusion, yes they are by time
Feb 01 14:27:49 <DeadWeasel>	anyone else getting a 502 bad gateway nginx error on bitcointalk forum?
Feb 01 14:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yeah, time only. not sorted by whether you buy or sell or anything else.
Feb 01 14:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel forum is kinda on/off. too much trolling
Feb 01 14:29:11 <mircea_popescu>	jurov now, all that aside, webserver desyncs really should not happen.
Feb 01 14:29:16 <DeadWeasel>	okie doke.  thx.
Feb 01 14:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	and so working on it.
Feb 01 14:30:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.789 = 1.578 BTC [-]
Feb 01 14:30:15 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 01 14:30:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00665746 / 0.00728093 / 0.00739499 (112603 shares, 819.86 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00723815 / 0.0075 (680391 shares, 4,924.77 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00481919 / 0.0075 (6561890 shares, 31,623.06 BTC)
Feb 01 14:30:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065777 = 2.8422 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 14:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4865 @ 0.00065773 = 3.1999 BTC [-]
Feb 01 14:31:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:32:15 <jurov>	thanks, just last question. when he trades have same timestamp, can i assume any secondary ordering?
Feb 01 14:33:05 <jurov>	such as, trades for older orders are further to the end of the list?
Feb 01 14:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066001 = 2.8519 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12529 @ 0.00066006 = 8.2699 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:36:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov when i say they're ordered historically i mean they're ordered in the absolute historical sense. if there's five orders on the same timestamp they're in the order they were received.
Feb 01 14:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	if you use a single thread this would be equal to the order you sent them in
Feb 01 14:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	but i guess if you open multiple sessions things may well get quantumified.
Feb 01 14:37:05 <jurov>	sure i do... can't have users blocking each other :P
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Feb 01 14:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	well then we're fucked.
Feb 01 14:39:58 <jurov>	o far i'm only fixing things manually every few days. time well paid. maybe i'll outsource it :D
Feb 01 14:40:53 <jurov>	was also thinking to reserve right to change last satoshi for order identification purposes
Feb 01 14:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 01 14:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	how'd that last satoshi thing work ?
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Feb 01 14:41:39 <jurov>	the problem actually arises only if there are simultaneous orders with exactly same price
Feb 01 14:42:53 <jurov>	but as the last digit is fully relevant this isn't the way to go
Feb 01 14:43:41 <jurov>	so this will have to wait till i buy more accounts
Feb 01 14:44:01 <jurov>	so i can spread such orders
Feb 01 14:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065788 = 2.8427 BTC [-]
Feb 01 14:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9329 @ 0.00065773 = 6.136 BTC [-]
Feb 01 14:44:25 <jurov>	or when you provide better match info
Feb 01 14:44:40 <jurov>	(easy decision for mpex, lol)
Feb 01 14:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Feb 01 14:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	now re the other thing : i can't readily use a hash of the order itself as the only identifier cause the one time there's a collision i'm going to be so fucked there's no telling.
Feb 01 14:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	i *could* use it as an extra field, but the db bloat may be an issue.
Feb 01 14:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	it certainly was discussed before.
Feb 01 14:46:13 <jurov>	there will be much sooner bit flip  from cosmic rays than sha1 collision
Feb 01 14:46:54 <jurov>	and if it's auxiliary field, something like 10chars fro the hash is sufficient
Feb 01 14:47:09 <jurov>	collision still almost impossible
Feb 01 14:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	well, if it's auxiliary, collision does not matter at all.
Feb 01 14:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	even if it's 2 bytes, your odds to create a 2 byte collision... heh.
Feb 01 14:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065985 = 2.8512 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14321 @ 0.00066006 = 9.4527 BTC [+]
Feb 01 14:55:04 <jurov>	lol, worrying about sha1(order+signature) collisions... it's like mpex is going to become used across whole multiverse
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Feb 01 14:59:12 <mircea_popescu>	you don't know my luck.
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Feb 01 14:59:58 <jurov>	maybe there's a bounty to make sha1 collision of meaningful strings.. so you'll get rewarded then
Feb 01 15:00:37 <mircea_popescu>	but they're not meaningful at all.
Feb 01 15:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066804 = 2.8866 BTC [+]
Feb 01 15:01:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13726 @ 0.0006682 = 9.1717 BTC [+]
Feb 01 15:01:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1753 @ 0.00066863 = 1.1721 BTC [+]
Feb 01 15:02:10 <jurov>	i meant, it's no on-purpose generated input on hash. they are signed mpex orders that must observe some pretty tightly defined format.
Feb 01 15:03:42 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, the leading zeros help me conceive the number. I mentally break it into two groups of four
Feb 01 15:04:05 <jurov>	lol i read that as deceive
Feb 01 15:04:26 <smickles>	;)
Feb 01 15:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	jurov a i c what you mean
Feb 01 15:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	smickles cool. still coming to terms wuith the ergonomics of this entire satoshi insanity.
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Feb 01 15:08:49 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140541.0
Feb 01 15:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	apparently there's still people with balances on intersangro !?
Feb 01 15:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006641 = 2.8696 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:09:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00066384 = 1.1146 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 15:12:28 <smickles>	;;ticker
Feb 01 15:12:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.85001, Best ask: 20.99660, Bid-ask spread: 0.14659, Last trade: 20.85001, 24 hour volume: 50983.80273450, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.24500, 24 hour vwap: 20.72846
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Feb 01 15:13:55 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... nothinfg happened
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Feb 01 15:14:20 <mircea_popescu>	network still at ~25th
Feb 01 15:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00066384 = 7.0035 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 15:24:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9529 @ 0.00066384 = 6.3257 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:24:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7397 @ 0.00066163 = 4.8941 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 15:30:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.79 = 4.74 BTC [+]
Feb 01 15:30:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00066656 = 2.3663 BTC [+]
Feb 01 15:30:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066819 = 2.8872 BTC [+]
Feb 01 15:30:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8584 @ 0.0006682 = 5.7358 BTC [+]
Feb 01 15:32:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4603 @ 0.00066163 = 3.0455 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:32:55 <ssssssss>	hi... anyone experienced with Irc bots? I mean to install and support a channel
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Feb 01 15:35:45 <jurov>	ask kakobrekla
Feb 01 15:36:26 <jurov>	but it isn't rocket science
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Feb 01 15:37:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00729646 = 2.9186 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:37:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00728887 = 5.8311 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:39:36 <DeadWeasel>	try #bitcoin-bots
Feb 01 15:39:53 <DeadWeasel>	or say #irc-bots  ?
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Feb 01 15:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065774 = 2.8421 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:41:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10956 @ 0.00065773 = 7.2061 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4323 @ 0.00065766 = 2.8431 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 5 @ 0.22139121 = 1.107 BTC [+]
Feb 01 15:45:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065802 = 2.8433 BTC [+]
Feb 01 15:45:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5994 @ 0.00065766 = 3.942 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 285 @ 0.00065563 = 0.1869 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 15:48:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065579 = 2.8337 BTC [+]
Feb 01 15:48:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19915 @ 0.00065563 = 13.0569 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:48:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00065502 = 6.845 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:48:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00065476 = 5.5982 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14764 @ 0.00065408 = 9.6568 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 15:49:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00065408 = 2.0276 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:49:43 <Namworld>	Who needs an autoupdating portfolio?
Feb 01 15:49:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9736 @ 0.00065408 = 6.3681 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00065293 = 9.2063 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00065278 = 9.9223 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11679 @ 0.00065239 = 7.6193 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4871 @ 0.00065238 = 3.1777 BTC [-]
Feb 01 15:50:11 <Bugpowder>	mine could be improved
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Feb 01 15:53:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00065238 = 4.8929 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 16:01:18 <pigeons>	Ukto: cute icons on bitfunder
Feb 01 16:02:16 <Ukto>	was Fortress' idea
Feb 01 16:02:24 <Ukto>	he asked for an icon for his, so I made one for sdice too
Feb 01 16:02:38 <Ukto>	did you see teh favicon he made for us? :)
Feb 01 16:04:37 <pigeons>	ah now i see, nice
Feb 01 16:04:39 <dub>	mircea_popescu: where are you getting net speed from? I think regardless of where its too noisy to infer much from spot checks
Feb 01 16:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	dub i reverse it based on block freq
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Feb 01 16:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	it's certainly noisy
Feb 01 16:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7121 @ 0.00065238 = 4.6456 BTC [-]
Feb 01 16:07:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5929 @ 0.00065226 = 3.8672 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 16:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00065226 = 1.1878 BTC [-]
Feb 01 16:11:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9703 @ 0.0006518 = 6.3244 BTC [-]
Feb 01 16:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6026 @ 0.00065141 = 3.9254 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 16:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 270 @ 0.00739499 = 1.9966 BTC [+]
Feb 01 16:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8 @ 0.00739499 = 0.0592 BTC [+]
Feb 01 16:16:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065142 = 6.5142 BTC [+]
Feb 01 16:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13952 @ 0.00065141 = 9.0885 BTC [-]
Feb 01 16:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9359 @ 0.00065091 = 6.0919 BTC [-]
Feb 01 16:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2757 @ 0.0006507 = 1.794 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 16:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065708 = 2.8392 BTC [+]
Feb 01 16:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21113 @ 0.00065709 = 13.8731 BTC [+]
Feb 01 16:35:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3916 @ 0.00066031 = 2.5858 BTC [+]
Feb 01 16:39:31 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: hey are you there?
Feb 01 16:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Feb 01 16:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca sup ?
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Feb 01 17:06:41 <Bugpowder>	Just when I reach the depths of despair...  Someone starts buying bitcoins again.
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Feb 01 17:07:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 01 17:07:35 <mircea_popescu>	methinks you're maybe too emotionally invested ?
Feb 01 17:07:55 <Bugpowder>	its a highly leveraged position
Feb 01 17:08:08 <Bugpowder>	though, if I lost it all, I'd still be up 30% from Jan 1.
Feb 01 17:08:11 <Bugpowder>	so
Feb 01 17:08:15 <Bugpowder>	in bitcoin terms
Feb 01 17:08:53 <mircea_popescu>	not bad.
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Feb 01 17:09:28 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: Your order to BUY 4056 S.DICE @market price has been received and will be processed.
Feb 01 17:09:47 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: assbot do not show it
Feb 01 17:10:54 <Bugpowder>	mpex was seriously fucked up this morning
Feb 01 17:11:01 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 01 17:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Feb 01 17:11:06 <Bugpowder>	2pm UTC
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Feb 01 17:12:13 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: should I try again?
Feb 01 17:12:33 <gesell>	wow, welcome back to the real world bcEUR (exchange finally not giving as many arbitrage opps)
Feb 01 17:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
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Feb 01 17:14:27 <Gregoriano>	happy to be a SDICE shareholder and put the tuition of my kids in safe hands
Feb 01 17:15:05 <mircea_popescu>	haha now that's a point
Feb 01 17:15:16 <Gregoriano>	;)
Feb 01 17:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	hm, is assbot dead ?
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Feb 01 17:15:26 *	jcpham remains uninvested
Feb 01 17:15:37 <gesell>	Gregoriano: dividends paid up?
Feb 01 17:15:40 <Namworld>	poor jcpham. So am I
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Feb 01 17:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	MPEx ‏@MPEx1
Feb 01 17:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	13`014 S.MPOE @ 0.00065051BTC = 8.46573714BTC (= 175.24 USD). 11 #trade #bitcoin #btc #stocks
Feb 01 17:16:03 <jcpham>	i'm just watching the show i guess
Feb 01 17:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	i think assbot is ded.
Feb 01 17:16:24 <Gregoriano>	Just became a shareholder. Not sure if I need to wait a full month or will dividends will be pro rated
Feb 01 17:17:02 <jcpham>	no comment on the bitcoin goblin that is satoshidice
Feb 01 17:17:24 <Namworld>	Gregoriano: you get full dividend if you're the one holding the share at the time of dividend
Feb 01 17:17:26 <jurov>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 01 17:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00711968 / 0.00733749 / 0.00739499 (107244 shares, 786.90 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00724625 / 0.0075 (679325 shares, 4,922.56 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00482134 / 0.0075 (6567424 shares, 31,663.79 BTC)
Feb 01 17:17:39 <Namworld>	So you should get a full dividend in the next days
Feb 01 17:17:41 <jcpham>	although i called it a goblin, so that's a comment
Feb 01 17:17:51 <Gregoriano>	@Namworld, wow, that's great
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Feb 01 17:18:26 <Gregoriano>	@Namworld that's great
Feb 01 17:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	mkay, the good news is the brightest man i know has found a way to squeeze more out of less.
Feb 01 17:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	update goes up in ~2 hours, hopefully we see at least a few weeks w/o anymore desyncs
Feb 01 17:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	by which time more ppl write more bots.
Feb 01 17:19:15 <gesell>	update to mpex?
Feb 01 17:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 01 17:19:23 <jurov>	will be desync to end all desyncs
Feb 01 17:19:23 <gesell>	lovely
Feb 01 17:19:30 <Namworld>	Is that sarcastic? If it is, all I can imagine is someone: Look... if I press harder... more lemon juice comes out.
Feb 01 17:19:33 <gesell>	no
Feb 01 17:19:44 <gesell>	it is lovely
Feb 01 17:19:45 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu scaling issues?
Feb 01 17:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yea, finally creating that singularity.
Feb 01 17:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham you have no idea i tell you. i bet there's pools that do less hashes than mpex does txs
Feb 01 17:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	i am mining!
Feb 01 17:20:25 <mircea_popescu>	on cpus
Feb 01 17:20:41 <jcpham>	mine em' into the ground that's what i say
Feb 01 17:20:45 <jcpham>	screw the backups
Feb 01 17:20:57 <jurov>	i told you, mpex works on multiverse & miltidimensional scale
Feb 01 17:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	o, yea, i hope you all have mpex back-ups right ?
Feb 01 17:21:01 <jcpham>	when it's over. call the bitcoins gifts
Feb 01 17:21:56 <jcpham>	terrible humor. try to keep mpex running though for sure ;)
Feb 01 17:23:04 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 01 17:23:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.08910, Best ask: 21.09970, Bid-ask spread: 0.01060, Last trade: 21.09970, 24 hour volume: 45928.75755893, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.13000, 24 hour vwap: 20.74014
Feb 01 17:23:13 <Bugpowder>	RALLY ON, WAYNE
Feb 01 17:23:51 <Bugpowder>	that's it, I'm turning the sound on
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Feb 01 17:25:51 <Bugpowder>	oops
Feb 01 17:25:54 <Bugpowder>	rally off
Feb 01 17:25:58 <Bugpowder>	new wall
Feb 01 17:26:17 <Bugpowder>	sneaky bastards
Feb 01 17:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22074 @ 0.00065051 = 14.3594 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:28:02 <Namworld>	price is already through the roof
Feb 01 17:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol Bugpowder is going to have a child with this rally
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Feb 01 17:33:15 <Bugpowder>	mpex might be desynced again
Feb 01 17:33:46 <Bugpowder>	order executed but is not showing up
Feb 01 17:33:53 <Bugpowder>	in stat or web
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Feb 01 17:35:04 <jurov>	well... now everyone go to coinbr and issue orders furiously :D
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Feb 01 17:39:30 <DeadWeasel>	zeroconfirmations.com    I think this is a great URL for a bitcoin blog.
Feb 01 17:39:51 <StarenseN>	-s
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Feb 01 17:43:41 <Bugpowder>	dispair
Feb 01 17:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	mkay
Feb 01 17:46:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 46 @ 0.0099 = 0.4554 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	slightly more advanced dos-thing
Feb 01 17:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:53:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:53:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:53:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:40 <jurov>	eh?
Feb 01 17:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:54:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:54:54 <Namworld>	I see a bot eating 5 S.DICE at a time
Feb 01 17:54:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:55:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:25 <JohnGalt>	skynet it has begun
Feb 01 17:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:55:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Feb 01 17:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	this will be painful.
Feb 01 17:55:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:52 <JohnGalt>	I surrender
Feb 01 17:55:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:16 <Namworld>	nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein
Feb 01 17:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:21 *	Namworld smacks the bot
Feb 01 17:56:22 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 01 17:56:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:23 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 01 17:56:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:24 *	wences_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
Feb 01 17:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:26 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 01 17:56:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:27 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 01 17:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:27 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 01 17:56:28 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 01 17:56:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:29 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 01 17:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol who was complaining about trades not going through ?
Feb 01 17:56:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:33 <JohnGalt>	whoever writes after me is dumb
Feb 01 17:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	you see nao
Feb 01 17:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:41 <evoorhees>	HFT!!! :)
Feb 01 17:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 01 17:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:53 <Namworld>	So...
Feb 01 17:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:56:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	we are very synced nao
Feb 01 17:57:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 17:57:03 <Namworld>	You get 0.2% of each sale so...
Feb 01 17:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:57:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00065938 = 7.6818 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:12 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla
Feb 01 17:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:12 <JohnGalt>	$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Feb 01 17:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	they're not diff sales. just the same batch re-reported
Feb 01 17:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00739499 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.19864392 BTC [-]
Feb 01 17:57:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.20174645 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00065938 = 8.7038 BTC [+]
Feb 01 17:57:24 *	assbot has quit (Excess Flood)
Feb 01 17:57:30 <jurov>	haha
Feb 01 17:57:34 <Bugpowder>	I bought those calls actually
Feb 01 17:57:37 <evoorhees>	did assbot get kicked?
Feb 01 17:57:40 <jurov>	yes
Feb 01 17:57:40 <Bugpowder>	and only 1 of each was on sale
Feb 01 17:57:41 <Namworld>	BOOM
Feb 01 17:57:57 <Bugpowder>	UH OH
Feb 01 17:57:58 <Bugpowder>	To certify that the aforementioned holds as of the quoted time the following with MPEx :   To which add orders in the book fully paid in advance :   To which add sums deposited as surety for 4th Friday settled option and future contracts :
Feb 01 17:58:01 <Namworld>	Die, bot, die
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Feb 01 17:58:15 <jurov>	Bugpowder got pwned
Feb 01 17:58:30 <Namworld>	or is it bort? or Bart?
Feb 01 17:58:46 <jurov>	Bugpowder not really, next stat should be normal
Feb 01 17:58:59 <Namworld>	Mine is normal
Feb 01 17:59:00 <JohnGalt>	are you the s.dice guy evoorhees? fill up your wallet I wanna play 0.1 on 64000x :P
Feb 01 18:00:22 <Namworld>	no, you must bet on the house
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Feb 01 18:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	ok let's try this again
Feb 01 18:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	anyone want to buy/sell 1 share of something ?
Feb 01 18:01:15 <Namworld>	I'll do
Feb 01 18:01:55 <evoorhees>	JohnGalt... the max bet for that is .0783 right now
Feb 01 18:02:00 <evoorhees>	if you win, I'll hunt you down!
Feb 01 18:02:10 <JohnGalt>	I want to be they guy who won 130k dollarz, not 100k, will it go back to 0.1?
Feb 01 18:03:03 <Namworld>	long term, the 64000x has as much chance earning money for SD
Feb 01 18:03:45 *	assbot (~assbot@78.46.215.65) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Feb 01 18:03:45 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to assbot
Feb 01 18:03:50 *	kakobrekla removes channel operator status from kakobrekla
Feb 01 18:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	ok, go for it Namworld
Feb 01 18:05:14 <Bugpowder>	My holdings are back
Feb 01 18:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	hum this isn;'t reporting ;/
Feb 01 18:05:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1 @ 0.01499986 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	o wait
Feb 01 18:05:37 <Namworld>	It is
Feb 01 18:05:40 <mircea_popescu>	aha!
Feb 01 18:05:44 <Namworld>	assbot wasn't in here
Feb 01 18:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	okay. totally different configuration of shit engaged.
Feb 01 18:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	this should really work much better. we see.
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Feb 01 18:07:23 <jurov>	you can perhaps allow HTTP/1.1 pipelined requests now :DDD
Feb 01 18:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	o, no, i'll enjoy last summer-style peace and quiet for at least a few days
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Feb 01 18:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00065092 = 12.042 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:13:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00065092 = 12.042 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:14:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00065092 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00065092 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00065092 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 18:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00064937 = 3.0845 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10985 @ 0.00064927 = 7.1322 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 18:18:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.79 = 11.85 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:18:36 <pigeons>	$20 is the new $20
Feb 01 18:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 01 18:19:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.41001, Best ask: 20.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06999, Last trade: 20.41001, 24 hour volume: 50513.17507919, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.13000, 24 hour vwap: 20.72567
Feb 01 18:20:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4 @ 0.00065092 = 0.0026 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:20:35 <Guest7347>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 01 18:20:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.70500000 / 0.7714362 / 0.89000000 (522 shares, 402.68969702 BTC), 7D: 0.55000001 / 0.72723107 / 0.89000000 (1489 shares, 1082.84706155 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.53753253 / 0.89000000 (6278 shares, 3374.62925095 BTC)
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Feb 01 18:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6512 @ 0.00064927 = 4.228 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 18:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2288 @ 0.00064855 = 1.4839 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2288 @ 0.00064855 = 1.4839 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	great, now we have echo
Feb 01 18:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00739201 = 11.088 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8500 @ 0.00739499 = 62.8574 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8500 @ 0.00739499 = 62.8574 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:26:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9646 @ 0.00064855 = 6.2559 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:26:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13842 @ 0.00064852 = 8.9768 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 18:27:04 <Ukto>	echo
Feb 01 18:27:08 <Ukto>	btw
Feb 01 18:27:09 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu
Feb 01 18:27:13 <Ukto>	did you see bitfunders new favicon ?
Feb 01 18:27:13 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 01 18:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00739499 = 3.6975 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	i hadn't
Feb 01 18:27:58 <jurov>	favicom omg. coinbr has favicon too. hand drawn by myself :D
Feb 01 18:28:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.77 = 3.85 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:28:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.765 = 30.6 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 18:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14008 @ 0.00064852 = 9.0845 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5942 @ 0.00064763 = 3.8482 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 18:37:49 <gesell>	how does https://bitfinex.com/pages/stats determine its bear bull index?
Feb 01 18:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00728888 = 7.2889 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00728887 = 1.0933 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00728887 = 1.0933 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00721781 = 2.8871 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:40:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00721781 = 2.8871 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 805 @ 0.00065092 = 0.524 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12812 @ 0.0006554 = 8.397 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 788 @ 0.00064872 = 0.5112 BTC [-]
Feb 01 18:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006588 = 2.8467 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54892 @ 0.00065881 = 36.1634 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7581 @ 0.00066031 = 5.0058 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.0006619 = 18.2684 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:44:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3432 @ 0.00066304 = 2.2756 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1386 @ 0.00066523 = 0.922 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 18:46:33 <mjr_>	hi everyone
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Feb 01 18:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	hi mjr_
Feb 01 18:48:19 <mjr_>	i created an online presentation
Feb 01 18:48:22 <mjr_>	https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5ZviIIaT7_kYzdaUloyR05La2M/edit?usp=sharing
Feb 01 18:48:37 <mjr_>	it briefly explains bitcoins in what i hope is easy to understand terms
Feb 01 18:48:57 <mjr_>	i was hoping that a few people would take a quick skim and let me know if there are any glaring errors
Feb 01 18:50:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 145 @ 0.00739499 = 1.0723 BTC [+]
Feb 01 18:50:43 <mjr_>	has anyone used bitinstant?
Feb 01 18:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	can you put it somewhere in a text format ? pastebin maybe ?
Feb 01 18:51:04 <mjr_>	and are they worthwhile? i am interested in the cash deposit method
Feb 01 18:51:21 <mjr_>	hmmm, might be able to but it is slides...would pdf work?
Feb 01 18:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	i guess.
Feb 01 18:51:54 <mjr_>	its a google doc right now...i figured everyone could read it easily
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Feb 01 18:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	bitinstant is solid as far as i hear.
Feb 01 18:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	hello ShaTwo
Feb 01 18:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	everyone, this is the bitmillions guy.
Feb 01 18:53:30 <ShaTwo>	jeje..
Feb 01 18:53:43 <ShaTwo>	Hi everybody..
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Feb 01 18:54:03 <ShaTwo>	we just launched today… http://bitmillions.com
Feb 01 18:54:09 <Namworld>	the private key decrypts and the public key encrypts? I was certain it was the other way around.
Feb 01 18:54:18 <ShaTwo>	Love to ear comment on the site..
Feb 01 18:54:19 <mircea_popescu>	depends what you're doing
Feb 01 18:54:40 <Namworld>	for bitcoin transactions
Feb 01 18:54:50 <Namworld>	not receiving private messages
Feb 01 18:55:08 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i have no idea
Feb 01 18:55:10 <mjr_>	i mean the messages are not really encrypted
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Feb 01 18:55:22 <mjr_>	you are signing the message with the key
Feb 01 18:55:34 <mjr_>	but i did not want to get into very small dettail
Feb 01 18:55:45 <mjr_>	since i am assuming a non techie audience lol
Feb 01 18:56:01 <Namworld>	yeah, but it says the public key encrypts and can be given, and private key unencrypt and must be kept private
Feb 01 18:56:11 <mjr_>	but in order to send an encrypted message...i would encrypt it using your public key, you would be the only one able to read it
Feb 01 18:56:12 <mircea_popescu>	tbh, i thought you're signing with their public key.
Feb 01 18:56:15 <Namworld>	should be private key sign transactions and must be kept private
Feb 01 18:56:30 <Namworld>	public key verify signature and can be given publicly
Feb 01 18:56:49 <mjr_>	yes...that is how bitcoin works...i think that section was more about cryptography in general
Feb 01 18:57:06 <mjr_>	but i can update it to show how it is used in this instance
Feb 01 18:57:24 <mjr_>	i wanted to explain public key cryptography in as simple terms as possible
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Feb 01 18:57:30 <mjr_>	which is pretty tough
Feb 01 18:57:48 <mjr_>	especially because i don't want to say "trust me, it works"
Feb 01 18:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	"math"
Feb 01 18:58:11 <mjr_>	yes lol\
Feb 01 18:58:54 <mjr_>	but overall pretty clear and readable?
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Feb 01 19:00:31 <mjr_>	i'm working on getting bitcoins accepted on this other site too
Feb 01 19:01:50 <mjr_>	a binary options site
Feb 01 19:02:15 <kakobrekla>	url?
Feb 01 19:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065619 = 2.8354 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:05:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7073 @ 0.00065606 = 4.6403 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:06:09 <Ukto>	ShaTwo: damn you
Feb 01 19:06:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00065606 = 7.6759 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:06:17 <Ukto>	your system is very similar to one I have in the works lol
Feb 01 19:06:25 <Ukto>	and you have a nice site :)
Feb 01 19:06:40 <ShaTwo>	Ukto: jeje… really?
Feb 01 19:06:48 <Ukto>	yeah
Feb 01 19:06:52 <Ukto>	mine wasnt on a per block basis
Feb 01 19:06:55 <Ukto>	but very similar
Feb 01 19:07:01 <Ukto>	pm ? :)
Feb 01 19:07:06 <ShaTwo>	Sure
Feb 01 19:11:16 <mjr_>	ShaTwo: omg the coins falling is loud
Feb 01 19:11:17 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 01 19:12:26 <ShaTwo>	mjr_: LOL
Feb 01 19:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	ShaTwo you totally have to make your wot
Feb 01 19:13:06 <mjr_>	i was like "what the..."
Feb 01 19:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;register
Feb 01 19:13:14 <gribble>	(register <nick> <keyid> [<keyserver>]) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. Optional <keyserver> argument tells us where to get your public key. By default we look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, (1 more message)
Feb 01 19:14:04 <ShaTwo>	mircea_popescu: I will… I didn't sleep in 40 hours … so I will leave for tomorrow :)
Feb 01 19:14:44 <mircea_popescu>	some sleep is required.
Feb 01 19:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00066321 = 2.9844 BTC [+]
Feb 01 19:15:28 <mjr_>	the site looks good ShaTwo
Feb 01 19:16:02 <ShaTwo>	Thanks :)
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Feb 01 19:18:49 <pigeons>	http://i45.tinypic.com/o10irs.jpg
Feb 01 19:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder quick! it's collapsing!
Feb 01 19:19:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00066511 = 2.86 BTC [+]
Feb 01 19:20:36 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1496505#msg1496505
Feb 01 19:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	anyone seen that ?!
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Feb 01 19:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00066457 = 9.1046 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:20:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8727 @ 0.00065606 = 5.7254 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00065375 = 19.9721 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 19:22:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00732211 = 36.6106 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3566 @ 0.00064763 = 2.3094 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 660 @ 0.00732211 = 4.8326 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.00721781 = 1.7323 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:29:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.0098 = 0.0882 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:30:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.007395 = 1.479 BTC [+]
Feb 01 19:30:24 <Namworld>	Wow. That's a huge crash. 2% under face value
Feb 01 19:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3592 @ 0.00064763 = 2.3263 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13208 @ 0.00064703 = 8.546 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:31:19 <drug_motor>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOCW6qHfKBw
Feb 01 19:32:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol .1 btc
Feb 01 19:33:59 <jurov>	 Mining difficulty futures now on BitFunder: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140608.0
Feb 01 19:34:33 <Namworld>	Anyone selling DMC shares?
Feb 01 19:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	a now this is interesting
Feb 01 19:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	This asset is available for shorting to anyone who provides collateral. Please inquiry on info@coinbr.com about doing so. Escrow at trusted third party is possible.
Feb 01 19:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	that's kinda vague.
Feb 01 19:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	so what's the collateral ?
Feb 01 19:37:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.765 = 7.65 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:37:16 <jurov>	CoinBr.iDiff-O has 0.08 BTC/share, CoinBr.iDiff-E 0.15/share
Feb 01 19:37:25 <jurov>	its in description
Feb 01 19:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	aha so fixed.
Feb 01 19:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	i think you meant 20th march said february in the btctalk post
Feb 01 19:38:30 <jurov>	no, iDiff-O expires in February
Feb 01 19:38:41 <jurov>	and iDiff-E in March
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Feb 01 19:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Feb 01 19:39:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 34 @ 0.765 = 26.01 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	how'd you fix the collateral level ? educated guess ?
Feb 01 19:40:29 <jurov>	yes, educated guess... hope i can come out with fixed rule in future
Feb 01 19:40:44 <Namworld>	Hey...
Feb 01 19:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	well im curious how this works out.
Feb 01 19:41:00 <Namworld>	I just discovered somethingawful while making a search for bitcoin related stuff...
Feb 01 19:41:26 <pigeons>	"Bitcoin still exists, and still provides comedy gold!"
Feb 01 19:41:43 <Namworld>	Seems those guys are aware of EVERYTHING happening in the Bitcoin community...
Feb 01 19:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00064703 = 5.985 BTC [-]
Feb 01 19:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	any good quotes ?
Feb 01 19:43:52 <Namworld>	Anyone ever thought of going there and sealing it? Seems like there's a trolls leakage.
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Feb 01 19:46:01 <Namworld>	Seems they're making fun of scams, Bitcoins and etc.
Feb 01 19:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	haven't they been forever ?
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Feb 01 19:47:09 <Namworld>	Maybe, idk
Feb 01 19:47:14 <Namworld>	http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3486823
Feb 01 19:47:26 <Namworld>	364 pages of bitcoin related posts and trolling
Feb 01 19:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	a cool
Feb 01 19:48:27 <Namworld>	and they're informed enough that some of them are probably lurking around bitcointalk.org posting inane content.
Feb 01 19:48:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8003 @ 0.00065023 = 5.2038 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 19:51:55 <jurov>	yes someone wrote complaining blogpost about their troll activity on btctalk/reddit
Feb 01 19:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-january-2013-statement/
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Feb 01 19:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.007395 = 10.353 BTC [+]
Feb 01 19:57:49 <jurov>	dividends? or already sent?
Feb 01 19:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	in a sec.
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Feb 01 19:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3078 @ 0.00065023 = 2.0014 BTC [+]
Feb 01 19:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6964 @ 0.00065026 = 4.5284 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:00:45 <gesell>	has sdice thought about becoming a payment processor as well so that it can take USD emmediately? of course it comes with the headache of other exchanges but with sdice's current exposure in the "real world" it might bring lots of new players aand new bitcoin users
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Feb 01 20:01:23 <jurov>	gesell, it would need casino license
Feb 01 20:01:30 <jurov>	if it touched usd
Feb 01 20:01:35 <gesell>	sorry
Feb 01 20:01:36 <gesell>	not usd
Feb 01 20:01:38 <gesell>	hmm
Feb 01 20:01:44 <gesell>	yeah guess that is out of the picture
Feb 01 20:01:46 <gesell>	rest of the world?
Feb 01 20:02:28 <gesell>	or maybe bitinstant or bitpay should have a sdice quick road
Feb 01 20:02:36 <gesell>	for the nonUS world
Feb 01 20:02:51 <jurov>	well, gambling is regulated almost everywhere.. easier just to stick to btc
Feb 01 20:02:59 <gesell>	guess its all messy. but just looking at how to reduce the barrier from a gambler hearing about sdice and bitcoin, and then going off to figure out how to get started
Feb 01 20:03:41 <gesell>	how do online gamblers say, in the EU, deal with this now? getting funds in i mean
Feb 01 20:04:49 <jurov>	i'm not gambler, just heard something about skrillex/liberty reserve/etc. basically, e-gold currencies.
Feb 01 20:04:54 <Namworld>	bank account transfer to one of the exchange... how hard is it, really
Feb 01 20:05:14 <Namworld>	one time setup and then you're set
Feb 01 20:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	gesell what would be the benefit ?
Feb 01 20:06:54 <mjr_>	yeah...bank account transfer
Feb 01 20:06:57 <gesell>	additional players
Feb 01 20:07:00 <mjr_>	$15
Feb 01 20:07:14 <mjr_>	then get the joy of paying the fee again on the reverse
Feb 01 20:07:19 <mjr_>	i hate banks
Feb 01 20:07:27 <mircea_popescu>	gesell ya but when you have a pizzeria doing great pizza
Feb 01 20:07:35 <mircea_popescu>	you don't start doing kebab just cause "more players"
Feb 01 20:07:36 <mjr_>	stick to making pizza
Feb 01 20:08:05 <mjr_>	good idea to have an easy inroad, but bad idea for them to touch USD
Feb 01 20:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1109 @ 0.00065026 = 0.7211 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3291 @ 0.00065679 = 2.1615 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:08:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3291 @ 0.00065679 = 2.1615 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:08:16 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: all true. but if you might contemplate how to make it easier for people that hear your pizza is great but dont come because the path seems complex, to make it less complex
Feb 01 20:08:27 <Namworld>	lol... almost no fees for Bitcoins. It's fund when you eliminate all the regulations/employees burden on transactions.
Feb 01 20:08:38 <mjr_>	i know
Feb 01 20:08:45 <Namworld>	It's fun*
Feb 01 20:08:53 <mjr_>	i look forward to the day you can get a home loan in bitcoins
Feb 01 20:08:59 <jurov>	gesell, be assured they did contemplate. i did too
Feb 01 20:09:13 <mjr_>	maybe using the contracts feature of bitcoin
Feb 01 20:09:30 <jurov>	but it's too big hassle to deal with fiat in realtion to gamblin and securities. i
Feb 01 20:09:41 <jurov>	but it's too big hassle to deal with fiat in realtion to gamblin and securities. i'm glad i don't have to
Feb 01 20:09:54 <jurov>	derp
Feb 01 20:09:58 <mjr_>	yeah...avoid the regulation as much as possible, you would probably lose money because of the compliance requirements
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Feb 01 20:10:24 <mjr_>	that is one of the reasons sdice and the others are doing so well, super low overhead, and easy transfer in and out
Feb 01 20:10:59 <mjr_>	i am going to try bitzino for the first time :)
Feb 01 20:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1030 @ 0.00065679 = 0.6765 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2789 @ 0.0006568 = 1.8318 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2789 @ 0.0006568 = 1.8318 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:12:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.765 = 8.415 BTC [-]
Feb 01 20:12:10 <gesell>	if i had the exposure that sdice is getting i'd start to try to find ways measure the effect of bitcoin-user-bootstrap friction and process, and then reweigh the hassel of dealing with fiat depending on number of users. I mean consider the profit that MTGox makes and they have to deal with this hassel, and the profits SDice has. the question is if reduced friction for fiat entry to btc to sdice would add a logrythmic increase in profits...
Feb 01 20:12:40 <gesell>	i guess he's more focused on stability at the moment, which is fare
Feb 01 20:12:50 <gesell>	but i'd still contemplate if this friction could be measured
Feb 01 20:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	sdice actually makes significantly more than mtgox neh ?
Feb 01 20:13:14 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: i think so
Feb 01 20:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	so then ? why fuck with it
Feb 01 20:14:10 <pigeons>	i smell a biz school grad
Feb 01 20:14:20 <gesell>	because someone else might. because you are going to have competitors coming in that have dealt with fiat hassels for a long time and now adding btc
Feb 01 20:14:27 <jcpham>	smells like reggae music
Feb 01 20:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	so if anyone cares im curling that sa thread and will post it w/o all the cruft
Feb 01 20:14:46 <mircea_popescu>	possibly adnotated or i dunno
Feb 01 20:15:28 <pigeons>	smells like old liquor when we're out of teen spirits
Feb 01 20:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065662 = 2.8373 BTC [-]
Feb 01 20:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4279 @ 0.0006568 = 2.8104 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064739 = 2.7974 BTC [-]
Feb 01 20:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00064704 = 4.5804 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 20:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	ahh i like the new mpex.
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Feb 01 20:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2413 @ 0.00064713 = 1.5615 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:20:13 <jurov>	mpoe-pr meets somethingawful? now that would be something
Feb 01 20:20:17 <Namworld>	I don't see any difference
Feb 01 20:20:21 <mjr_>	omg, i love bitzino
Feb 01 20:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	sed -e :a -e 's/<[^>]*>//g;/</N;//ba' << anyone tell me what that does ?
Feb 01 20:21:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.007395 = 2.958 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	jurov they'd prolly ban her.
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Feb 01 20:23:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7899999 = 3.16 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 20:26:57 <gesell>	noticing this small delay sometimes in bitzino blackjack where after i "stand" and the dealer contemplates what he does there is sometimes a long pause, sometimes not. could be nothign but reminds me of an article 10 years ago in 2600mag where someone saw something similar that indicated when when the dealer had 21. actually it would happen whenever it asked him if he wanted to buy insurance. there was a 5 second delay in the dialog if the dealer had 21.
Feb 01 20:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1562 @ 0.007395 = 11.551 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:27:18 <Namworld>	So, like.... 0.00000067 BTC per share this month for S.BBET?
Feb 01 20:27:27 <gesell>	the author worked out how to execute that advantage to make oodles
Feb 01 20:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld something tiny
Feb 01 20:30:03 <gesell>	up, and there is the article (from 2005, hack on paradisepoker.com) http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/~gbpprorg/2600/paradise_poker.txt
Feb 01 20:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065661 = 2.8372 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8679 @ 0.0006568 = 5.7004 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:30:48 <jurov>	only if i could derive something such from mpex glitches :P
Feb 01 20:32:02 <jurov>	so far i only gathered information it seems to use mysql :)
Feb 01 20:32:40 <gesell>	really? mpex? damn i would've thought mircea_popescu rolled with some textfile foo database like a boss
Feb 01 20:33:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]
Feb 01 20:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	teh webservers are lamps
Feb 01 20:33:45 <Namworld>	The lamps. Stack em.
Feb 01 20:34:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7899999 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:36:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1786 @ 0.0006568 = 1.173 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:36:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00065983 = 0.0139 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:36:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5693 @ 0.00065984 = 3.7565 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:36:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5693 @ 0.00065984 = 3.7565 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:36:29 <gesell>	sorry, but gonna paste this one on how the author worked out the advantage due to delay on insurance buy (when dealer has ace showing) and working out time required and money that could be made:
Feb 01 20:36:29 <gesell>	"The dealer will have an Ace as his up card approximately once every 13 hands. Four out of 13 times, the dealer will also have a 10 in the hole. This means that you would get to exploit this bug approximately four times every 169 hands (1/13 x 4/13). This translates to a 2.366 percent more favorable situation for the player. Without the exploit, you would expect to lose 56 cents for every $100 bet. So with the exploit, this translates to a 1.778 percent 
Feb 01 20:37:20 <jurov>	gesell, do you know there was successful doublespend attack to satoshidice?
Feb 01 20:37:33 <gesell>	no, oh? nice
Feb 01 20:37:40 <gesell>	will go check btctalk
Feb 01 20:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	mk so where do i pastebin a 10mb textfile ?
Feb 01 20:39:15 <pigeons>	#eligius
Feb 01 20:39:37 <kakobrekla>	:DDDDD
Feb 01 20:39:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 01 20:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1908 @ 0.00064713 = 1.2347 BTC [-]
Feb 01 20:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2921 @ 0.00064704 = 1.89 BTC [-]
Feb 01 20:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3293 @ 0.00064703 = 2.1307 BTC [-]
Feb 01 20:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6678 @ 0.00064676 = 4.3191 BTC [-]
Feb 01 20:40:26 <gesell>	bitcoin is going to change the field of hacking as much as it does finance
Feb 01 20:40:29 <jurov>	lol. why not just put it on webserver?
Feb 01 20:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065949 = 2.8497 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11679 @ 0.00065984 = 7.7063 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:43:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11679 @ 0.00065984 = 7.7063 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:45:25 <mjr_>	yeah that is true
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Feb 01 20:45:37 <mjr_>	security will be everything...
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Feb 01 20:46:34 <gesell>	many hackers find 0day and sit on it because publishing wont bring you more money and you already make enough to not care so much. and many companies are horrible about patching and fixing (looking at oracle/java and adobe/flash here). so you sit on it. so, lots of people in this field know that yeah they could pwn xyz companie, grab all the credit cards and then go sell them. but why deal with the hassel of the law. it just requires too much strategizin
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Feb 01 20:46:54 <mjr_>	anyone want seals with club referal?
Feb 01 20:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	i find it incredible these doods dedicated 2mn words to explaining why btc sucks to themselves.
Feb 01 20:47:46 <mjr_>	yeah, i think its always the funniest when people spend their time talking about things they don't like/ believe in....like r/atheism
Feb 01 20:47:52 <gesell>	so my point is there is going to be a lot more granularity between black market hackers and the norm, whereas today its a much larger jump mentally to go from one side of that to the other
Feb 01 20:48:24 <mjr_>	i'm not sure about that...i think most people who know linux don't mind doing some L33T haxor stuff now and then
Feb 01 20:48:44 <mjr_>	because one of the large motivations is curiousity...
Feb 01 20:49:25 <mjr_>	ok...no one wants referal bonus on seals with clubs...
Feb 01 20:49:48 <gesell>	your curosity doesnt end with the technology though. it starts to extend into manipulating feer and reaction to having their security and systems go to sht
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Feb 01 20:50:04 <mjr_>	that is a big leap i agree
Feb 01 20:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	dividend payment for S.BBET in total sum of 203984160 to a notional float of 3000000 has been issued on February 2, 2013, 1:49 am.
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Feb 01 20:50:27 <mjr_>	but being able to make something funny pop up on a coworkers screen is always fun
Feb 01 20:50:57 <mjr_>	i guess what i mean is that the motivation to HACK (gain access to a system that is not yours) and the motivations to STEAL are two very different things
Feb 01 20:51:19 <gesell>	mjr_: not really. its what drives people in this field, watching the reaction. my point is though that the step from watching something go to sht because it doesnt work or everyones passwords got dumped, to going to watching money go down the dube... the step between those too just got more granular
Feb 01 20:51:21 <mjr_>	sometimes you get people who have both motivations...sometimes they just have one
Feb 01 20:51:28 <gesell>	mjr_: yeah
Feb 01 20:51:51 <mjr_>	well, that's what i mean, a lot of people hack a system and just change the wallpaper...
Feb 01 20:51:55 <gesell>	that is what i mean, they are two different things with huge steps between them and the latter has some pretty clear motivations (black market mentality, edge of the law)
Feb 01 20:51:56 <Namworld>	mjr: what referall bonus?
Feb 01 20:52:10 <mjr_>	if you join the site...you can say someone referred you
Feb 01 20:52:13 <mjr_>	but i already joined
Feb 01 20:52:25 <Namworld>	yeah, but there's no bonus to join referred
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Feb 01 20:53:28 <mjr_>	yeah, i was offering to give someone here the money if they already had an account
Feb 01 20:53:42 <Namworld>	Well, BBET dividend got through
Feb 01 20:53:46 <mjr_>	ie. they could get the bonus
Feb 01 20:53:47 <Namworld>	2 BTC for the first month
Feb 01 20:54:31 <mjr_>	wow
Feb 01 20:54:41 <mjr_>	i've never seen a whole bitcoin
Feb 01 20:54:53 <mjr_>	i can imagine what that must be like though
Feb 01 20:55:05 <mjr_>	<mentally moving decimal places>
Feb 01 20:55:19 <mjr_>	one day i will finally get around these banks and get some cash on an exchange somewhere
Feb 01 20:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ stick around for when sdice or smpoe distribute
Feb 01 20:56:19 <mjr_>	i don't have shares :( yet
Feb 01 20:56:22 <gesell>	anyone can point me to some abitrage code that deals with volume in orderbooks (calculating prof based on volume of several bids/asks rather than just the lowest/highest which might be really really small bids)? would like to integrate this into the google abitrage spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AguYZ5-dWMgfdElhakdHQzhiQXp5emctdjZTNG9qaEE&gid=0
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Feb 01 20:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5255 @ 0.00065984 = 3.4675 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:56:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10645 @ 0.00066043 = 7.0303 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 20:57:06 <smickles>	;;ticker
Feb 01 20:57:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.30200, Best ask: 20.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04799, Last trade: 20.35000, 24 hour volume: 50555.35614816, 24 hour low: 20.15000, 24 hour high: 21.13000, 24 hour vwap: 20.68153
Feb 01 20:57:30 <Namworld>	Anyone got DMC shares?
Feb 01 20:57:52 <Namworld>	I'd like to buy a few around 0.02ish
Feb 01 20:58:55 <gesell>	once i get the volume issue settled im going to start to code direct buy and sell code for each exchange, direcly into the mofo'ing spreadsheet ;)
Feb 01 20:59:03 <gesell>	get google to be my damn abitrage bot
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Feb 01 20:59:30 <gesell>	(and yeah, already sent the link before to the code, and will release publicly once it works)
Feb 01 20:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1537 @ 0.00066043 = 1.0151 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00066139 = 5.5887 BTC [+]
Feb 01 20:59:55 <mjr_>	so you will have to open up accounts on each exchange?
Feb 01 21:00:00 <gesell>	mjr_: yeah
Feb 01 21:00:21 <gesell>	everyone says its not profitable. want to find out for myself and then just share the spreadsheet so everyone else can as well
Feb 01 21:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9558 @ 0.00066523 = 6.3583 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2035 @ 0.00066572 = 1.3547 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:01:17 <gesell>	kinda wanting to push it a bit... maybe we'll get close to NYSE where the closer your bot is to the exchange the better :)
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Feb 01 21:03:01 <jurov>	you'll have to move fiat someday between them, no?
Feb 01 21:03:45 <gesell>	jurov: totally. im thinking about this as i go
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Feb 01 21:04:14 <mjr_>	yeah, i think transaction fees are going to kill you
Feb 01 21:04:28 <mjr_>	if you could use liquidity rebates it might work
Feb 01 21:04:30 <gesell>	eh, not really. unless i need instant cash
Feb 01 21:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	ahh this sa forum thing is lol.
Feb 01 21:04:43 <gesell>	mjr_: what are liquidity rebates
Feb 01 21:04:45 <mjr_>	no i mean you would have paper gains, but then when you need to move it
Feb 01 21:04:51 <mircea_popescu>	they hate on the rota too. i had no idea.
Feb 01 21:05:01 <gesell>	what saa forum thing?
Feb 01 21:05:15 <mjr_>	usually if you put an order out on the books, thats just sitting there you are "adding liquidity"
Feb 01 21:05:29 <mjr_>	that is valuable, so on wall street...you get a rebate
Feb 01 21:05:33 <Namworld>	sa hates on EVERYTHING
Feb 01 21:05:43 <mjr_>	if you take someone else's offer you are "removing" liquidity
Feb 01 21:05:51 <mjr_>	so you pay a fee
Feb 01 21:05:54 <gesell>	aah
Feb 01 21:05:58 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld apparently.
Feb 01 21:06:12 <gesell>	mjr_: its not obvious to me if this is happening on btc exchanges. doesnt appear so
Feb 01 21:06:19 <Namworld>	It's about people who have nothing better to do than angst all day about everything.
Feb 01 21:06:21 <mjr_>	bitfloor did it
Feb 01 21:06:29 <mircea_popescu>	I'm actually developing a new respect for Mircea Popescu.  He's so insufferable that I used to avoid reading anything he wrote but I've been reading his blog a bit lately and the man may be arrogant but he's not stupid.  He thinks strategically and it will be kind of interesting to watch him go up against the self-appointed "big players" in the world of Bitcoin commerce.  The prospect of seeing someone wipe the floor w
Feb 01 21:06:29 <gesell>	hmm, okay. why dont the others?
Feb 01 21:06:29 <mircea_popescu>	ith Charlie Shrem and Roger Ver is pretty appealing.
Feb 01 21:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	Rassah applied to be an MPEx Rota judge.
Feb 01 21:06:32 <mjr_>	and i guess they still do, but i haven't tried yet
Feb 01 21:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	check that out. i r botharing tham, had no idea even
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Feb 01 21:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	apparently sa hates on everything but me.
Feb 01 21:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34666 @ 0.00066572 = 23.0778 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 21:08:06 <mjr_>	i heard some things about bitfloor that make me a little wary, but i think they have the best model for a currency exchange
Feb 01 21:08:22 <pigeons>	what do you mean by their model?
Feb 01 21:08:29 <smickles>	liquidity rebate
Feb 01 21:08:32 <smickles>	prolly
Feb 01 21:08:36 <pigeons>	oh maker/taker
Feb 01 21:08:40 <mircea_popescu>	what % is it ?
Feb 01 21:09:06 <pigeons>	i cancelled a bitfloor order hours ago and the funds are still on hold cant make another order with them yet
Feb 01 21:09:15 <pigeons>	they are extremely flaky always
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Feb 01 21:09:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i can't seem to remember
Feb 01 21:09:48 <mjr_>	think its .1% if you add -.4% if you take
Feb 01 21:10:03 <mjr_>	but mostly i like them cuz you can move cash in and out really easily (i thought)
Feb 01 21:10:15 <mjr_>	you can link an ing direct checking account and its "supposedly" instant
Feb 01 21:10:15 <pigeons>	what do you mean by easily?
Feb 01 21:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	.1% when btc moves 20% in a day ?
Feb 01 21:10:30 <pigeons>	oh yeah well for the ing its easy
Feb 01 21:10:34 <mjr_>	yeah, but for a bot
Feb 01 21:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7513 @ 0.00066191 = 4.9729 BTC [-]
Feb 01 21:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1587 @ 0.00064691 = 1.0266 BTC [-]
Feb 01 21:10:36 <mjr_>	that is trying to arb
Feb 01 21:10:40 <mjr_>	that is very nice
Feb 01 21:10:49 <mjr_>	and it hasn't moved 20% today
Feb 01 21:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	i very much doubt there's the volume to arb so as to render that meaningful.
Feb 01 21:11:02 <mjr_>	and over its lifetime i don't think it will always move a lot
Feb 01 21:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	slippage is probably a degree of magnitude larger order to order
Feb 01 21:11:17 <pigeons>	you need about 10% price difference usually to arb, causeends up being a good 7-8% moving usd from one exchange to another
Feb 01 21:11:25 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 01 21:11:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10190 @ 0.00066572 = 6.7837 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7410 @ 0.00066582 = 4.9337 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:11:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.01 = 0.07 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:12:03 <mjr_>	but that is what i am saying...since they don't have fees to move money, and since you can make money trading, you could take liquidity on another site and offer it out there
Feb 01 21:12:12 <pigeons>	best are vouchx to vouchx but then even if there is enough depth on the exchange, aurum wont have the reserves
Feb 01 21:12:30 <pigeons>	mjr_: just look, you can't make enough. try it, but quit talking about it
Feb 01 21:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00066582 = 3.3957 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	BitPay just announced that you can donate to Wikipedia in bitcoins now! Oh, they kinda downplay the one small detail that Wikipedia still doesn't actually accept bitcoin. BitPay decided to set up an escrow account where people can give their bitcoins to BitPay and BitPay gives USD to Wikipedia. They did this without Wikipedia's knowledge or consent but they're acting like it's some huge victory. Oh, and they're making
Feb 01 21:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	a huge deal of the fact that they are so graciously not charging Wikipedia for this "service."
Feb 01 21:12:58 <gesell>	pigeons: i was the one that started it. im playing with it. i hear its not worht it but still gonna learn why
Feb 01 21:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	um is this even true !?
Feb 01 21:14:03 <Namworld>	or maybe they asked a wikipedia rep and they said: "yeah, whatever, as long as we receive money"
Feb 01 21:14:14 <pigeons>	best chance today was 20 bitcoins wanted to buy at the rock for 21 when you could buy them ld buy for 20.60 elsewher
Feb 01 21:15:21 <pigeons>	bitinstant ends up being 7-8% round trip
Feb 01 21:15:34 <mjr_>	WellsFargo cash deposits are currently suspended. Due to this account suspension, ACH withdrawals will be delayed as the account is closed. These delays are outside of our control and we apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We strive to process both USD and BTC in an efficient manner and will continue to do so after these delays are resolved.
Feb 01 21:15:47 <pigeons>	you can confirm for yourself next time you see an opportunity tell me and ill tell you why it wont work ;)
Feb 01 21:15:52 <mjr_>	that is from bitfloor by the way...so i guess that might be causing your delay?
Feb 01 21:16:42 <pigeons>	and the lowest price is always btce- and they are never lower enough even on the rare times there is volume, to break even
Feb 01 21:17:16 <pigeons>	all the usd deposit and withdrawal methods at btce are 7-8% and they are never that much lower than gox, whoever
Feb 01 21:17:44 <mjr_>	yeah...i have seen that
Feb 01 21:17:48 <mjr_>	gox is just so expensive
Feb 01 21:18:02 <pigeons>	they are expensive, but htye are the cheapest
Feb 01 21:18:22 <pigeons>	and of course the most volume
Feb 01 21:18:48 <gesell>	pigeons: why would it require bitinstant. havent though it through but considered that perhaps one doesnt need instant payout. I guess i've only been looking at the scenerio of "buy btc here, sell over there" but have not thought "get cash back and repeat"
Feb 01 21:19:30 <gesell>	assumed the "get cash back and repeat" was not as latency burdened so it could take a long while and be okay
Feb 01 21:19:33 <gesell>	in order to reduce fees
Feb 01 21:19:38 <pigeons>	well when you buy here you have no more cash heree now
Feb 01 21:19:55 <gesell>	yeah, so i still made a profit but now im blocked from making more profit
Feb 01 21:20:25 <gesell>	until i get it back. but if i add more weight and cash at the start i get blocked less and make more profit, no?
Feb 01 21:20:28 <pigeons>	well you didnt make a profit till you buy again
Feb 01 21:20:31 <jborkl>	Gox is only. . 1/2%
Feb 01 21:20:46 <pigeons>	at the highest teir 1/2% they go lower
Feb 01 21:21:06 <gesell>	jborkl: the spread of a bunch of exchange fees here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AguYZ5-dWMgfdElhakdHQzhiQXp5emctdjZTNG9qaEE&gid=2
Feb 01 21:21:08 <jborkl>	Yeah, I know.. I don't see that as expensive
Feb 01 21:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	"Coincidentally, my office was, literally, across the street from the registered address of BFL at the time. It turned out to be an apartment complex, as BFL was a start up and did not have an actual office at the time."
Feb 01 21:21:22 <mircea_popescu>	lmao. his office was next to the projects
Feb 01 21:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	but NOT INSIDE THEM!!!1
Feb 01 21:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	guess the author.
Feb 01 21:22:02 <pigeons>	plus the risk of keeping your money at these exchnges is not neglible
Feb 01 21:22:21 <mjr_>	yes, i plan on using bitfloor to get bitcoins and send them to my wallet right away
Feb 01 21:22:30 <jborkl>	No, gox is the one I use for that reason
Feb 01 21:22:41 <jborkl>	Yes I mean
Feb 01 21:22:51 <gesell>	pigeons: i think im missing the "you didnt make prof until you buy again". sorry i feel stupid here but could you explain why i have to buy again. i took cash, put it in btc, got cash back + %2, and one week later got that cash in my hand
Feb 01 21:23:08 <pigeons>	no bitfloor risk is pretty bad, some people think thye are only operating to get enenough to run away again
Feb 01 21:23:16 <jborkl>	Bit floor still owes a lot of people right..
Feb 01 21:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2734 @ 0.00064691 = 1.7687 BTC [-]
Feb 01 21:24:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1066 @ 0.00064676 = 0.6894 BTC [-]
Feb 01 21:25:13 <mjr_>	hmmm, not sure
Feb 01 21:25:24 <mjr_>	but like i said, i don't plan on keeping money in there
Feb 01 21:25:26 <mjr_>	overnight
Feb 01 21:25:33 <mjr_>	and they seem to be trying to pay people back
Feb 01 21:25:35 <mjr_>	i don't know
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Feb 01 21:26:50 <mjr_>	how long does it take for satoshidice to win or lose?
Feb 01 21:27:05 <jurov>	few seconds
Feb 01 21:27:30 <pigeons>	you just keep it overnight, ok dont pick the night they go away
Feb 01 21:27:50 <mjr_>	no, i don't plan on having money in there overnight is what i was saying
Feb 01 21:27:53 <pigeons>	and that's 1 hour to get it back in, hope the price doesnt move too much
Feb 01 21:28:12 <mjr_>	i am not trying to trade, just trying to buy bitcoins
Feb 01 21:28:23 <jurov>	can't you just put order next door on -otc?
Feb 01 21:28:33 <mjr_>	how would i pay?
Feb 01 21:28:49 <jurov>	i herd moneypaks are popular there
Feb 01 21:29:00 <mjr_>	i will look into that, i have no clue what that is
Feb 01 21:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00726718 = 7.2672 BTC [-]
Feb 01 21:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 173 @ 0.007395 = 1.2793 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:33:54 <jborkl>	Otc will take moneypak or dwolla. Moneypak, make sure you but it with cash only
Feb 01 21:34:03 <jborkl>	Buy
Feb 01 21:34:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5524 @ 0.00064792 = 3.5791 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:35:09 <mjr_>	where can you buy moneypak?
Feb 01 21:35:41 <jborkl>	Go to moneypak. Com and look it up. Everywhere around here
Feb 01 21:36:12 <jborkl>	Go ask in otc and see if anyone wants one and how much
Feb 01 21:36:26 <jborkl>	First
Feb 01 21:37:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.0075 = 0.0675 BTC [-]
Feb 01 21:40:03 <mjr_>	pocket aces :)
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Feb 01 21:42:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 70 @ 0.0078 = 0.546 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00066581 = 2.5301 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:47:06 <mjr_>	they weren't enough
Feb 01 21:47:08 <mjr_>	:(
Feb 01 21:47:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 521 @ 0.00066581 = 0.3469 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:47:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 790 @ 0.00066582 = 0.526 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:47:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8723 @ 0.00066812 = 5.828 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 21:50:09 <mjr_>	dude coinbase got a 600k seed round
Feb 01 21:50:12 <mjr_>	that is awesome
Feb 01 21:50:28 <mjr_>	and all they are doing is just online wallet....
Feb 01 21:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00066051 = 1.9815 BTC [-]
Feb 01 21:56:20 <mircea_popescu>	kinda old news.
Feb 01 21:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1402 @ 0.00066186 = 0.9279 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:59:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5927 @ 0.00066812 = 3.9599 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:59:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 516 @ 0.0006682 = 0.3448 BTC [+]
Feb 01 21:59:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 657 @ 0.00066863 = 0.4393 BTC [+]
Feb 01 22:02:11 <mjr_>	yeah i know, but i am only trying to raise like 100k
Feb 01 22:02:19 <mjr_>	so i think it might work
Feb 01 22:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	depends who you know.
Feb 01 22:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	have you seen mpoe-pr's infamous "see here" thread ?
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Feb 01 22:08:10 <mjr_>	its pretty cool that ycombinator chose them
Feb 01 22:08:12 <mjr_>	says a lot
Feb 01 22:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.007395 = 4.437 BTC [+]
Feb 01 22:08:56 <mjr_>	i already included mpex registration in the prospectus lol :)
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Feb 01 22:11:20 <gesell>	okay, this is the price chart of 5d for bitcoin-24. http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?m=btc24EUR&v=1&t=S&noheader=1&height=80&width=750&r=5 its the only one ive seen like this. not huge volume but as much as many others and yet it is soooo level. I swear, many times ive seen bots respond to my bid, in less than <500ms latency. Im convinced the owners of the exchange have a bot at play on the exchange to keep prices close to mtgox or level or i do
Feb 01 22:12:07 <gesell>	oh wait, maybe its just the volume adjusting the scale, and since that fluctuates so mutch one doesnt see much of the price fluctuation
Feb 01 22:13:07 <gesell>	bleh, no, even the large chart looks odd
Feb 01 22:14:30 <gesell>	aah, no it was the very odd huge 40eu range bid somewhere (glitch i guess)
Feb 01 22:14:32 <gesell>	ignore me
Feb 01 22:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00066863 = 6.7866 BTC [+]
Feb 01 22:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2919 @ 0.00066186 = 1.932 BTC [-]
Feb 01 22:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12670 @ 0.00066158 = 8.3822 BTC [-]
Feb 01 22:22:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.998 = 1.996 BTC [+]
Feb 01 22:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 330 @ 0.00066158 = 0.2183 BTC [-]
Feb 01 22:22:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1276 @ 0.00065932 = 0.8413 BTC [-]
Feb 01 22:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1276 @ 0.00065932 = 0.8413 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 22:23:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 7 @ 0.999 = 6.993 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 22:25:01 <mircea_popescu>	dude this is insane.
Feb 01 22:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	SA loves only one thing in all of bitcoin more than me
Feb 01 22:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	and that's mpoe-pr
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Feb 01 22:26:50 <Namworld>	link?
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Feb 01 22:27:46 <Namworld>	They'd probably worship MPOE-PR as Troll Goddess
Feb 01 22:27:56 <Namworld>	She's attacked pretty much everything they talk about =P
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Feb 01 22:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld you had the link earlier neh ?
Feb 01 22:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3486823&userid=0&perpage=100&pagenumber=
Feb 01 22:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	or whoever posted it
Feb 01 22:29:18 <Namworld>	yeah but over 300 pages...
Feb 01 22:29:36 <Namworld>	I won't browse the whole 300 pages to find whatever post you're talking about =P
Feb 01 22:29:43 <Namworld>	When you have the link handy
Feb 01 22:30:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00065652 = 8.7974 BTC [-]
Feb 01 22:30:28 <Namworld>	or at least tell me the specific page
Feb 01 22:31:00 <Namworld>	#
Feb 01 22:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	i don't have it i read digests.
Feb 01 22:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	but let's spam irc
Feb 01 22:31:57 <Namworld>	oh
Feb 01 22:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	It's like they want to scare away anyone serious about using Bitcoins as a currency, I wonder how much longer that woman who runs the (last standing) trading platform will put up with their dumb poo poo. She's hardly some great pillar of sanity since she's all wrapped up in Bitcoins too but she seems to be trying to be serious about things yet they want to shout her down. I am guessing it is because she is a woman.
Feb 01 22:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	Mircea Popescu, who runs MPOE, is a guy.  The MPOE-PR woman was accused of being his sock, but I think she just does all the English-language business for him (he's Romanian).
Feb 01 22:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	Unless there is no Mircea and it's just that lady doing a "Remington Steele" thing, only instead of private eye poo poo it's Internet porn/Bitcoins.
Feb 01 22:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	Agree that two of the smartest posters on there are women: MPOE-PR and repentance.
Feb 01 22:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	VvvV. Also people mock MPOE because it's a subforum of a porn site.  Go over and look at it; it's kind of crappy looking despite MPOE-PR's general good sense.  Presumably someone else handles the web implementation.
Feb 01 22:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	The brilliant Bitcoin detectives thought that there was only one person who was a guy (Mircea, which is a guy's name in Romanian) and he was just using a lady's picture as a sock.  I am willing to believe they got it exactly backwards, and that she just made up "Mircea Popescu" as a sock.
Feb 01 22:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	Oh well if it's two people then that's interesting. Some of the people on that forum did some internet detectiving and came to the conclusion that it's all one person but then again these are not the brightest people we are talking about...
Feb 01 22:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	What a beautiful twist it would be if the last trading platform that didn't collapse or turn into a scam which is run more like an actual real one than a teenage dream out of the basement is run by a woman. Because they mock her, ostracize her and blame her at every turn possibly because they can't handle a girl running a service for them.
Feb 01 22:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	Still, possibly the most legit bitcoin trading site they will ever get and yet they want this one to fai
Feb 01 22:34:48 <Namworld>	The forum says so... but most around assets channels seems to support MPEx
Feb 01 22:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	well, sa stuff. to be taken with a grain fo salt.
Feb 01 22:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	they pretty much only read/care about the trolls and nuts.
Feb 01 22:35:57 <Namworld>	Oddly, I thought about Mircea Popescu being the sock puppet instead when MPOE-PR was accused of being a sock puppet
Feb 01 22:36:46 <Ukto>	Namworld: mebbe they are both sock puppets of someone else?
Feb 01 22:36:51 <Ukto>	mebbe its satoshi >,>
Feb 01 22:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	why does someone have to be a sock puppet ?
Feb 01 22:37:23 <Ukto>	more fun that way. :)
Feb 01 22:37:31 <Namworld>	eheh
Feb 01 22:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	will be kinda hysterical if/when SA discovers like... stuff on trilema.
Feb 01 22:37:49 <Ukto>	besides, its generates talk. and "There's no such thing as bad press" ;)
Feb 01 22:37:51 <Namworld>	Well, it's not necessary. But when it was suggested, it made me think of the opposite.
Feb 01 22:37:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]
Feb 01 22:37:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Feb 01 22:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5894 @ 0.00065652 = 3.8695 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 22:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	generally not a bad strategy
Feb 01 22:39:10 <gesell>	funny thread. have sa heard of bitcoingem?? please someone let them know about that
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Feb 01 22:41:11 <Ukto>	BF just passed 350btc for 24hr vol
Feb 01 22:41:28 <Namworld>	Mircea Popescu - actually a sock puppet for the brits rebuilding their old empire. Starting with Bitcoins to vanquish US capitalism which is in their way.
Feb 01 22:41:37 <Namworld>	Sounds more fun like that
Feb 01 22:42:48 <Namworld>	They're still not happy about the outcome of the American War of Independence.
Feb 01 22:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00066398 = 4.1167 BTC [+]
Feb 01 22:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	why can't i be a sockpuppet for someone fun
Feb 01 22:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	like, napoleon.
Feb 01 22:44:01 <Namworld>	but his life expectancy expired
Feb 01 22:44:10 <Namworld>	It would have to be zombie napoleon
Feb 01 22:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	hm, that's a point.
Feb 01 22:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what zombie napoleon does for a living.
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Feb 01 22:45:22 <mircea_popescu>	So many people in the US focus on being one lottery win away from being rich, when they're actually one lost job or house fire or medical emergency away from being destitute.
Feb 01 22:45:24 <mircea_popescu>	dude this is deep.
Feb 01 22:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6706 @ 0.00066398 = 4.4526 BTC [+]
Feb 01 22:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12344 @ 0.00066016 = 8.149 BTC [-]
Feb 01 22:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066862 = 2.8891 BTC [+]
Feb 01 22:47:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11979 @ 0.00066863 = 8.0095 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 22:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.007395 = 3.3278 BTC [+]
Feb 01 22:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4649 @ 0.00066863 = 3.1085 BTC [+]
Feb 01 22:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25862 @ 0.0006694 = 17.312 BTC [+]
Feb 01 22:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21538 @ 0.00067 = 14.4305 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:04:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3001 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 23:10:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.7899999 = 4.74 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 23:13:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3001 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:15:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066032 = 2.8532 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:15:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00066016 = 3.419 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:16:22 <gesell>	What is K.KBRL on mpex, or what is the K. category?
Feb 01 23:17:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:19:18 <Namworld>	I heard it's a joke or something
Feb 01 23:19:33 <Namworld>	It's just there doing nothing all the time
Feb 01 23:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066981 = 2.8942 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00067 = 3.5369 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:26:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.007395 = 7.395 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 23:27:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:29:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9168 @ 0.00067 = 6.1426 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.007395 = 12.5715 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 23:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066031 = 2.8532 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2179 @ 0.00066016 = 1.4385 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:41:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.7899999 = 7.9 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:41:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 39 @ 0.2401 = 9.3639 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:42:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2733 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:42:35 <Namworld>	Who needs my auto-updating portfolio scripts?
Feb 01 23:42:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00066016 = 9.9024 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:43:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.31 = 2.17 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00066016 = 2.6736 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:45:37 <Diablo-D3>	lol portfolios
Feb 01 23:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066997 = 2.8949 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14015 @ 0.00067 = 9.3901 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8323 @ 0.00067093 = 5.5842 BTC [+]
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Feb 01 23:46:11 <Namworld>	?
Feb 01 23:46:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:47:05 <Namworld>	What's funny?
Feb 01 23:47:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.7899999 = 1.58 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:47:53 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: who has portfolios anymore after glbse
Feb 01 23:48:14 <Namworld>	I do. Many others do.
Feb 01 23:48:52 <Namworld>	Wether it's only balance of bitcoin addresses, MPEx, BTCT.co, MtGox data
Feb 01 23:49:36 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs
Feb 01 23:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066043 = 2.8537 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:50:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4789 @ 0.00066016 = 3.1615 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:50:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.7899999 = 1.58 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:50:48 <Namworld>	It's nice to tally up all that data
Feb 01 23:51:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 20 @ 0.33 = 6.6 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:51:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.7899999 = 2.37 BTC [+]
Feb 01 23:54:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7059 @ 0.00066016 = 4.6601 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:54:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00065394 = 3.2697 BTC [-]
Feb 01 23:54:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4941 @ 0.0006535 = 3.2289 BTC [-]
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Feb 01 23:56:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.007395 = 2.958 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 00:03:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6700 @ 0.007395 = 49.5465 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 00:08:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00066603 = 10.9895 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00065808 = 1.1187 BTC [-]
Feb 02 00:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00721784 = 2.8871 BTC [-]
Feb 02 00:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00721783 = 3.9698 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 00:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067092 = 2.899 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11079 @ 0.00067093 = 7.4332 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:14:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5233 @ 0.00065808 = 3.4437 BTC [-]
Feb 02 00:14:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065351 = 2.8238 BTC [-]
Feb 02 00:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8146 @ 0.0006535 = 5.3234 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 00:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2898 @ 0.00067093 = 1.9444 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067182 = 2.9029 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:17:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2747 @ 0.00067183 = 1.8455 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:20:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00065372 = 0.621 BTC [-]
Feb 02 00:22:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3371 @ 0.00065372 = 2.2037 BTC [-]
Feb 02 00:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.0006535 = 8.953 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 00:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.007395 = 369.75 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 986 @ 0.007395 = 7.2915 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 00:35:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00721784 = 0.7218 BTC [-]
Feb 02 00:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00721783 = 0.7218 BTC [-]
Feb 02 00:35:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:39:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1239 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.007395 = 11.832 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:49:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066132 = 2.8576 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:49:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4779 @ 0.00066161 = 3.1618 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:54:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0078 BTC [+]
Feb 02 00:55:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00066161 = 5.5244 BTC [+]
Feb 02 01:05:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11199 @ 0.00066161 = 7.4094 BTC [+]
Feb 02 01:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 3 @ 0.18391654 = 0.5517 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:11:49 <mjr_>	hi everyone
Feb 02 01:15:26 <mjr_>	is anyone online?
Feb 02 01:17:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 5 @ 0.21662797 = 1.0831 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:17:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00066414 = 7.9033 BTC [+]
Feb 02 01:17:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6972 @ 0.00066161 = 4.6127 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00066615 = 3.2308 BTC [+]
Feb 02 01:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00066414 = 7.9033 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:17:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00067 = 16.75 BTC [+]
Feb 02 01:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00066615 = 3.2308 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:17:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2378 @ 0.00067085 = 1.5953 BTC [+]
Feb 02 01:17:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00067 = 16.75 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:17:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2378 @ 0.00067085 = 1.5953 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 01:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00065641 = 4.9231 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065385 = 2.8253 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4147 @ 0.0006535 = 2.7101 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4147 @ 0.0006535 = 2.7101 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:26:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00721783 = 2.5262 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 31 @ 0.00721781 = 0.2238 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:26:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00718071 = 2.1542 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:26:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00718071 = 2.1542 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:26:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 732 @ 0.007148 = 5.2323 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:26:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 732 @ 0.007148 = 5.2323 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:27:29 <thestringpuller>	s.dice shorting woo
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Feb 02 01:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 15 @ 0.18404994 = 2.7607 BTC [+]
Feb 02 01:45:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:45:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.2 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 01:48:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7262 @ 0.0006655 = 4.8329 BTC [+]
Feb 02 01:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 5 @ 0.18400462 = 0.92 BTC [-]
Feb 02 01:56:29 <Namworld>	not really a shorting...
Feb 02 02:00:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1417 @ 0.00722941 = 10.2441 BTC [+]
Feb 02 02:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 857 @ 0.007395 = 6.3375 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 02:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4430 @ 0.00066433 = 2.943 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 02:15:44 <Ukto>	even U.S. department of homeland security explains to the masses why guns should not be outlawed. Glad to have their support. :)
Feb 02 02:16:29 <Ukto>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-01/advice-department-homeland-security-if-attacked-shooter-grab-some-scissors
Feb 02 02:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00723505 = 6.5115 BTC [-]
Feb 02 02:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.007148 = 0.7148 BTC [-]
Feb 02 02:17:48 <error4733>	https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7017193984/h49C4AE96/
Feb 02 02:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066602 = 2.8779 BTC [+]
Feb 02 02:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00066614 = 7.1943 BTC [+]
Feb 02 02:21:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4622 @ 0.00067085 = 3.1007 BTC [+]
Feb 02 02:21:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3862 @ 0.00067183 = 2.5946 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 02:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066551 = 2.8757 BTC [-]
Feb 02 02:31:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11029 @ 0.00066527 = 7.3373 BTC [-]
Feb 02 02:32:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 15 @ 0.18475491 = 2.7713 BTC [+]
Feb 02 02:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067179 = 2.9028 BTC [+]
Feb 02 02:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4886 @ 0.00067183 = 3.2826 BTC [+]
Feb 02 02:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4886 @ 0.00067183 = 3.2826 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 02:46:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1238 @ 0.00067183 = 0.8317 BTC [+]
Feb 02 02:46:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2383 @ 0.00067235 = 1.6022 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 03:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066583 = 2.8771 BTC [-]
Feb 02 03:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5094 @ 0.00066566 = 3.3909 BTC [-]
Feb 02 03:12:02 <gesell>	yup yup its going down
Feb 02 03:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00066566 = 5.1256 BTC [-]
Feb 02 03:12:05 <gesell>	;;ticker
Feb 02 03:12:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.97902, Best ask: 18.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01098, Last trade: 18.99000, 24 hour volume: 66226.46327128, 24 hour low: 18.60000, 24 hour high: 21.10000, 24 hour vwap: 20.25171
Feb 02 03:13:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067203 = 2.9038 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:13:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8994 @ 0.00067235 = 6.0471 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3185 @ 0.0006725 = 2.1419 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.0006725 = 3.8333 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066571 = 2.8765 BTC [-]
Feb 02 03:18:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1093 @ 0.00066566 = 0.7276 BTC [-]
Feb 02 03:20:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0078 = 0.39 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:21:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.829 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:23:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.5198 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:25:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 32 @ 0.0078 = 0.2496 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:25:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.007148 = 2.8592 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 03:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00066567 = 1.3313 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00066566 = 3.7943 BTC [-]
Feb 02 03:41:10 <error4733>	!asks 19
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Feb 02 03:42:15 <gesell>	bod dead?
Feb 02 03:42:27 <gesell>	s/bod/bot
Feb 02 03:42:48 <fancypants>	!ticker
Feb 02 03:42:49 <assbot>	I thought I told you not to touch me.
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Feb 02 03:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 892 @ 0.00066566 = 0.5938 BTC [-]
Feb 02 03:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3686 @ 0.00066527 = 2.4522 BTC [-]
Feb 02 03:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066437 = 2.8707 BTC [-]
Feb 02 03:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7001 @ 0.00066436 = 4.6512 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 03:50:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4734 @ 0.00067102 = 3.1766 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:50:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2816 @ 0.00067221 = 1.8929 BTC [+]
Feb 02 03:58:41 <dub>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 02 03:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00711968 / 0.00736256 / 0.007395 (183907 shares, 1,354.03 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00728761 / 0.0075 (749253 shares, 5,460.27 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00486054 / 0.0075 (6639651 shares, 32,272.29 BTC)
Feb 02 04:05:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1505 @ 0.00067221 = 1.0117 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7795 @ 0.0006725 = 5.2421 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7795 @ 0.0006725 = 5.2421 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067237 = 2.9053 BTC [-]
Feb 02 04:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8320 @ 0.0006725 = 5.5952 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3432 @ 0.00067436 = 2.3144 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:12:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 76 @ 0.0078 = 0.5928 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:12:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 924 @ 0.0079 = 7.2996 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 04:22:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:24:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3474 @ 0.00066653 = 2.3155 BTC [-]
Feb 02 04:24:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 876 @ 0.0006701 = 0.587 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00732003 = 10.98 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00733138 = 12.0968 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9924 @ 0.0006701 = 6.6501 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 926 @ 0.00067435 = 0.6244 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 926 @ 0.00067435 = 0.6244 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 04:34:01 <fancypants>	!ticker m s.bbet
Feb 02 04:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.001139 / 0.00128594 / 0.00159999 (69348 shares, 89.18 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00079936 / 0.0035 (2339720 shares, 1,870.29 BTC)
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Feb 02 04:36:34 <Namworld>	I'm surprised it held
Feb 02 04:36:50 <fancypants>	btc/usd?
Feb 02 04:37:01 <Namworld>	;;calc 2.03984129/3000000
Feb 02 04:37:02 <gribble>	6.79947096667e-07
Feb 02 04:37:10 <Namworld>	No, BBET
Feb 02 04:37:39 <Namworld>	0.00000067 BTC per share dividend
Feb 02 04:38:04 <fancypants>	was there bad news or something?  or just the big wide spread
Feb 02 04:39:17 <Namworld>	Well the month dividend is 0.00000067 for 1/5th of revenue, the rest of the bets are not resolved yet.
Feb 02 04:39:21 <Namworld>	 If they were all resolved, we'd have about 0.00000330 BTC per share for 30 days
Feb 02 04:39:38 <Namworld>	vs a share price of 0.001 currently
Feb 02 04:39:50 <fancypants>	oh that.
Feb 02 04:40:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066781 = 2.8856 BTC [-]
Feb 02 04:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13229 @ 0.00066746 = 8.8298 BTC [-]
Feb 02 04:41:02 <Namworld>	At this speed, over 300 months to get back investment
Feb 02 04:43:45 <fancypants>	better than a student loan then?
Feb 02 04:43:56 <Namworld>	lol
Feb 02 04:44:05 <Namworld>	a student loan is not an investment
Feb 02 04:44:27 <Namworld>	an investment is studying and working
Feb 02 04:44:33 <Namworld>	no loan
Feb 02 04:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067423 = 2.9133 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3208 @ 0.00067434 = 2.1633 BTC [+]
Feb 02 04:44:41 <Namworld>	You're not allowed to sleep
Feb 02 04:49:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00067393 = 6.2002 BTC [-]
Feb 02 04:52:26 <markedathome>	alright, did tom cash out last night?
Feb 02 04:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00067393 = 2.0892 BTC [-]
Feb 02 04:59:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2086 @ 0.00066746 = 1.3923 BTC [-]
Feb 02 04:59:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006661 = 2.8782 BTC [-]
Feb 02 04:59:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 393 @ 0.00066609 = 0.2618 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 05:04:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067412 = 2.9129 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1392 @ 0.00067434 = 0.9387 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 696 @ 0.00067435 = 0.4693 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:06:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066622 = 2.8787 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:06:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1185 @ 0.00066609 = 0.7893 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 05:09:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067414 = 2.913 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3378 @ 0.00067435 = 2.278 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:09:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3378 @ 0.00067435 = 2.278 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36201 @ 0.00067436 = 24.4125 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36201 @ 0.00067436 = 24.4125 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:16:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9717 @ 0.00067436 = 6.5528 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6191 @ 0.00067454 = 4.1761 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12720 @ 0.00067484 = 8.584 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3072 @ 0.00067523 = 2.0743 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 05:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066634 = 2.8793 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:23:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23223 @ 0.00066609 = 15.4686 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 05:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066637 = 2.8794 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:35:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4217 @ 0.00066635 = 2.81 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:35:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3162 @ 0.00066609 = 2.1062 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3162 @ 0.00066609 = 2.1062 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:38:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00730376 = 7.3038 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 05:40:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00066821 = 6.7155 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067491 = 2.9163 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:40:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11993 @ 0.00067523 = 8.098 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4336 @ 0.00067583 = 2.9304 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 05:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066636 = 2.8793 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00066609 = 4.3156 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:50:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00066609 = 4.3156 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4114 @ 0.00067583 = 2.7804 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067619 = 2.9218 BTC [+]
Feb 02 05:54:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2601 @ 0.0006762 = 1.7588 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 05:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1243 @ 0.00066609 = 0.8279 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:58:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00066523 = 1.3305 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066513 = 2.874 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14706 @ 0.00066512 = 9.7813 BTC [-]
Feb 02 05:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 844 @ 0.00066464 = 0.561 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 06:09:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067615 = 2.9216 BTC [+]
Feb 02 06:09:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9930 @ 0.0006762 = 6.7147 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 06:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2695 @ 0.0006763 = 1.8226 BTC [+]
Feb 02 06:17:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 06:22:32 <Bowjob>	2 hours and 37 moar mins till Avalon starts asking for mahknee
Feb 02 06:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	eh ?
Feb 02 06:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	details!
Feb 02 06:23:27 <Bowjob>	http://launch.avalon-asics.com/#prices
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Feb 02 06:24:32 <bowjob>	9 am est translates to 6 am pacific
Feb 02 06:24:49 <bowjob>	i did not see this dump coming.. wow fuck.
Feb 02 06:24:55 <bowjob>	;; ticker
Feb 02 06:24:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.30000, Best ask: 19.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 19.36999, 24 hour volume: 90761.44676475, 24 hour low: 18.00000, 24 hour high: 21.10000, 24 hour vwap: 19.83651
Feb 02 06:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	o hey. going down ?
Feb 02 06:25:24 <bowjob>	someone dumped a lot of btc
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Feb 02 06:25:48 <bowjob>	I had 80 BTC set aside for Asic.. in case it goes down a bit.. but not this much!
Feb 02 06:25:51 <PsychoticBoy>	now the scamming part comes in, first avalon ships 2 units, now everyone trusts them and poof they dissapear
Feb 02 06:26:01 <bowjob>	I'm not sure if the price includes shipping or not.
Feb 02 06:26:10 <PsychoticBoy>	no shipping incl
Feb 02 06:26:19 <bowjob>	well.. mhm
Feb 02 06:26:25 <PsychoticBoy>	btc only, no proof, no refund
Feb 02 06:26:34 <bowjob>	id hate to sell some dice shares
Feb 02 06:27:08 <PsychoticBoy>	trade dice shares for avalon unit preorder batch 2? I would keep the shares
Feb 02 06:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 800 @ 0.20664775 = 165.3182 BTC [+]
Feb 02 06:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	how much is the new avalon ?!
Feb 02 06:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't it supposed to be 1200 ?
Feb 02 06:29:11 <bowjob>	1499
Feb 02 06:29:27 <bowjob>	1299 for first batch, 1499 for a slightly upgraded one
Feb 02 06:30:18 <bowjob>	im confident bfl wont pull their heads out of their asses, some delay will happen again
Feb 02 06:30:34 <bowjob>	and avalon will ship batch no 2 before bfl
Feb 02 06:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	maybe so.
Feb 02 06:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1499 / 19.83
Feb 02 06:30:47 <gribble>	75.5925365608
Feb 02 06:30:50 <bowjob>	I expect around 58 TH by the time i get mine
Feb 02 06:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	ovr 80 with shipping ?
Feb 02 06:31:09 <bowjob>	I'm not sure how much the shipping is gonna be..
Feb 02 06:31:18 <PsychoticBoy>	shipping was 50$ I thought
Feb 02 06:31:23 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob i have serious doubts about avalon. so far as best we can determine they have not delivered.
Feb 02 06:31:55 <mircea_popescu>	it's Feb 2. three weeks later. shipping takes 3 weeks for EVERYONE in a 300 order batch ?
Feb 02 06:32:17 <PsychoticBoy>	as far as I know, only 2 units are shipped
Feb 02 06:32:55 <PsychoticBoy>	Jgarzik and the bitcoinfoundation
Feb 02 06:33:45 <bowjob>	well, out of all the asic producers, only avalon produced a real asic so far, that makes them more credible than anyone else
Feb 02 06:33:48 <PsychoticBoy>	smart, send units to a commercial bitcoin company and gain trust
Feb 02 06:34:43 <PsychoticBoy>	them F everyone for them BTC, We Accept Bitcoin Only, No Refunds! hmmmn
Feb 02 06:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	more credible than anyone else, yes.
Feb 02 06:35:11 <bowjob>	the no refunds part make sense.. they need the order the parts right away
Feb 02 06:35:25 <bowjob>	as for BTC.. isnt what what we want? for BTC to be used
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Feb 02 06:35:33 <PsychoticBoy>	a good company already has his parts
Feb 02 06:35:37 <mircea_popescu>	that's not the point tho.
Feb 02 06:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	the point is that until they delvier batch 1 you can't tell whether they do or don't deliver at all.
Feb 02 06:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	putting together 2 units out of a 300 unit run is not the same as having made 300 units.
Feb 02 06:36:31 <bowjob>	mhm, yes i see that.
Feb 02 06:36:35 <PsychoticBoy>	I would wait unless you got a small mind and lots of btc to gamble with
Feb 02 06:37:02 <bowjob>	i dont think waiting is really an option.. that 600 unit order will get eaten
Feb 02 06:37:06 <bowjob>	in half an hour
Feb 02 06:37:18 <Ukerz>	they mean until next order
Feb 02 06:37:29 <PsychoticBoy>	sure, not by me, I have a batch1 order, still not recieved
Feb 02 06:37:40 <Ukerz>	psycho: you do?
Feb 02 06:37:47 <Ukerz>	how many units were in batch 1 ?
Feb 02 06:37:55 <PsychoticBoy>	300
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Feb 02 06:38:48 <bowjob>	20 mins for 300 ASICs back in september.. now that they have actually shipped 2 units, it could be 10 minutes, actually
Feb 02 06:38:54 <PsychoticBoy>	I ordered with every ASIC manufact, BFL, AVALON and even bASIC (still waiting for  my refund though)
Feb 02 06:39:23 <bowjob>	gosh, basic.. have you seen the letter?
Feb 02 06:39:34 <bowjob>	the slanderous note on Basic's site.
Feb 02 06:39:40 <PsychoticBoy>	yep
Feb 02 06:39:50 <PsychoticBoy>	tom is insane madman
Feb 02 06:40:02 <bowjob>	how could you be so anti avalon when basic looks even worse
Feb 02 06:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	i am not buying any asics.
Feb 02 06:40:27 <PsychoticBoy>	I am anti all ASIC manufact. until proof is out there
Feb 02 06:40:35 <bowjob>	yet you bought 3?
Feb 02 06:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	me ?!
Feb 02 06:40:43 <PsychoticBoy>	but he I have BTC to gamble with
Feb 02 06:40:45 <bowjob>	Psychotic
Feb 02 06:40:48 <mircea_popescu>	a nm
Feb 02 06:41:08 <PsychoticBoy>	I bought 6 BFL SC singles, 3 jalapeno, 1 avalon, 2 bASIC
Feb 02 06:41:19 <bowjob>	I'd consider Avalon to be a 1/6 confirmation phase.
Feb 02 06:41:50 <bowjob>	I'll look into what delays the shipment, see if I can get any answers from Yifu before they go on sale
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Feb 02 06:42:32 <PsychoticBoy>	If you will not buy a batch 2 order someone else will
Feb 02 06:42:53 <bowjob>	Well, owning S.Dice shares is like owning ASICs.. and I have some of those
Feb 02 06:43:03 <PsychoticBoy>	bitcoin commmunity got more fools than normal ppl
Feb 02 06:43:18 <PsychoticBoy>	I would keep the sdice
Feb 02 06:43:34 <PsychoticBoy>	its a casino and they are not likely to lose
Feb 02 06:44:16 <bowjob>	I'm currently long BTC, long S.Dice 50/50 split. I'd rather not disrupt that ratio.. and I took the Avalon into account
Feb 02 06:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see how sdice and asics would be similar investments.
Feb 02 06:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	sdice is, theoretically at least, bound to have slowly rising returns
Feb 02 06:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	asics are, again theoretically, bound to have huge returns early
Feb 02 06:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	then taper off
Feb 02 06:46:50 <bowjob>	I meant the price appreciation over the past month. ^
Feb 02 06:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	exactly opposite sort of curves
Feb 02 06:47:14 <bowjob>	the dividends are just cherry on top
Feb 02 06:48:22 <bowjob>	For instance, I got some at xx48, price is now xx73 ... thats like having lots of asics mining and appreciating on value
Feb 02 06:49:37 <bowjob>	im on the "BFL won't ship before march 1st" crowd..
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Feb 02 06:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	a.
Feb 02 06:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	well then... you stand to make whatever portion of 700 btc
Feb 02 06:52:09 <mircea_popescu>	o, also : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/lets-make-it-one-giant-puzzle/
Feb 02 06:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	identify all 6, get a bitcoin.
Feb 02 06:56:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.0249 = 0.3486 BTC [+]
Feb 02 06:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4958 @ 0.0006735 = 3.3392 BTC [-]
Feb 02 06:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92 @ 0.00067602 = 0.0622 BTC [+]
Feb 02 06:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P300T] 75 @ 0.70983809 = 53.2379 BTC
Feb 02 06:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Feb 02 06:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	so puts are now selling ?
Feb 02 06:57:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 86 @ 0.0249 = 2.1414 BTC [+]
Feb 02 06:57:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.0249 = 0.3486 BTC [+]
Feb 02 07:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4125 @ 0.00067602 = 2.7886 BTC [+]
Feb 02 07:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067603 = 2.9211 BTC [+]
Feb 02 07:02:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8404 @ 0.00067628 = 5.6835 BTC [+]
Feb 02 07:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	Jeff's Avalon unit is pulling 620 watts
Feb 02 07:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	jesus fuck i guessed it!
Feb 02 07:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6699 @ 0.00067628 = 4.5304 BTC [+]
Feb 02 07:09:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.0006751 = 4.3206 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:09:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067292 = 2.9077 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:09:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 229 @ 0.00067275 = 0.1541 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:09:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 229 @ 0.00067275 = 0.1541 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 07:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067622 = 2.9219 BTC [+]
Feb 02 07:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00067628 = 3.7872 BTC [+]
Feb 02 07:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00067628 = 3.7872 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 07:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00067628 = 8.1154 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 07:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00067622 = 6.0522 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:32:12 <DeaDTerra>	Considering the Avalon is self run, without a host machine it's still not that bad
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Feb 02 07:35:15 <DeadWease>	;;ticker
Feb 02 07:35:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.55507, Best ask: 19.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14493, Last trade: 19.55204, 24 hour volume: 88101.48921973, 24 hour low: 18.00000, 24 hour high: 21.10000, 24 hour vwap: 19.78760
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Feb 02 07:41:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00067321 = 4.7125 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:41:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3865 @ 0.00067622 = 2.6136 BTC [+]
Feb 02 07:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 335 @ 0.00067628 = 0.2266 BTC [+]
Feb 02 07:41:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 335 @ 0.00067628 = 0.2266 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 07:56:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4618 @ 0.00067471 = 3.1158 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067285 = 2.9074 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8371 @ 0.00067275 = 5.6316 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00067212 = 5.8811 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:56:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00067212 = 5.8811 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00066659 = 5.2661 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00066659 = 5.2661 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.000666 = 1.3986 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.000666 = 1.3986 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:56:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2990 @ 0.00066464 = 1.9873 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2990 @ 0.00066464 = 1.9873 BTC [-]
Feb 02 07:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00066495 = 2.4603 BTC [+]
Feb 02 08:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	bah for the love of christ.
Feb 02 08:04:12 <bowjob>	when i read your comment, I thought someone fat fingered S.dice again
Feb 02 08:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 311 @ 0.00730376 = 2.2715 BTC [-]
Feb 02 08:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 89 @ 0.00729494 = 0.6492 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 08:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 467 @ 0.00739 = 3.4511 BTC [+]
Feb 02 08:15:19 <kakobrekla>	lol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129558.msg1497301#msg1497301
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Feb 02 08:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	no, im just getting an echo in reporting trades now ;/
Feb 02 08:21:27 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you do it :D
Feb 02 08:22:13 <kakobrekla>	done
Feb 02 08:22:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3399 = 3.399 BTC [+]
Feb 02 08:22:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [+]
Feb 02 08:22:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 08:25:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00067275 = 8.073 BTC [+]
Feb 02 08:25:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4099 BTC [+]
Feb 02 08:28:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.79 = 15.01 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 08:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00066954 = 0.4158 BTC [-]
Feb 02 08:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1279 @ 0.00066941 = 0.8562 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 08:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1279 @ 0.00066941 = 0.8562 BTC [-]
Feb 02 08:54:04 <kakobrekla>	dafuq
Feb 02 08:54:13 <kakobrekla>	we had 18 dollar coins
Feb 02 08:54:16 <kakobrekla>	not long ago.
Feb 02 08:54:17 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Feb 02 08:55:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00066424 = 5.2475 BTC [-]
Feb 02 08:55:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3882 @ 0.00066081 = 2.5653 BTC [-]
Feb 02 08:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00066147 = 13.031 BTC [+]
Feb 02 08:56:10 <kakobrekla>	luck this time, bought my road tax vignette with 21 dollar coins :)
Feb 02 08:56:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3882 @ 0.00066081 = 2.5653 BTC [-]
Feb 02 08:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3882 @ 0.00066081 = 2.5653 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 09:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.0006762 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 09:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.0006762 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 09:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4215 @ 0.0006762 = 2.8502 BTC [+]
Feb 02 09:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00067621 = 1.961 BTC [+]
Feb 02 09:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone is curious : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-tech-stuff/
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Feb 02 09:25:48 <Ukerz>	avalon ordered.
Feb 02 09:26:29 <Diablo-D3>	no trolling
Feb 02 09:26:32 <Ukerz>	LOL
Feb 02 09:26:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00739 = 5.912 BTC [+]
Feb 02 09:26:37 <Ukerz>	did you ctrl-f5?
Feb 02 09:26:38 <Ukerz>	:P
Feb 02 09:27:09 <Ukerz>	alright alright. sigh
Feb 02 09:27:25 <Ukerz>	this is kinda stupid this
Feb 02 09:27:26 <Ukerz>	tho
Feb 02 09:27:36 <Ukerz>	its like a kid waking up for xmas, running downstairs
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Feb 02 09:27:40 <Ukerz>	to find ZERO presents
Feb 02 09:28:12 <Ukerz>	I think Yifu did th ebetter trollig job
Feb 02 09:28:18 <Ukerz>	"look at this idiots waking up for nothing"
Feb 02 09:30:04 <bowjob>	wow.  avalon still cant get their act together
Feb 02 09:30:37 <bowjob>	i feel rather disrispected that i stayed up all night and they cant even set up a pre order properly. wtf
Feb 02 09:31:30 <Ukerz>	yeah ,its 8am, i'm pretty friggen tired
Feb 02 09:32:40 <bowjob>	its on now
Feb 02 09:35:31 <Ukerz>	no
Feb 02 09:35:32 <Ukerz>	its fial
Feb 02 09:35:33 <Ukerz>	checkout fail
Feb 02 09:35:40 <Ukerz>	"There appears to be an error with this site."
Feb 02 09:36:29 <bowjob>	fail. cart broken
Feb 02 09:36:39 <bowjob>	do we need a wordpress account?
Feb 02 09:36:50 <bowjob>	it sys i have 3 asics wtf
Feb 02 09:37:07 <leotreasure>	why does my order total say $3?
Feb 02 09:37:38 <bowjob>	Geezus Christ
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Feb 02 09:39:14 <leotreasure>	now it's $1
Feb 02 09:39:17 <leotreasure>	should i pay?
Feb 02 09:39:17 <bowjob>	such a shoddy site
Feb 02 09:39:28 <bowjob>	im having problems with it
Feb 02 09:40:39 <bowjob>	maybe its indeed a scam
Feb 02 09:41:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1421 @ 0.00067621 = 0.9609 BTC [+]
Feb 02 09:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00067622 = 1.3524 BTC [+]
Feb 02 09:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2717 @ 0.00067628 = 1.8375 BTC [+]
Feb 02 09:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00067674 = 4.162 BTC [+]
Feb 02 09:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00067702 = 1.354 BTC [+]
Feb 02 09:41:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6912 @ 0.00067703 = 4.6796 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 09:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob what, still no orders ?
Feb 02 09:45:20 <bowjob>	they opened up the orders, the problem is no one can fill them.. the site is broken
Feb 02 09:45:32 <bowjob>	http://store.avalon-asics.com/
Feb 02 09:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	sux.
Feb 02 09:45:45 <Diablo-D3>	wait until they turn off caching and cdn
Feb 02 09:45:49 <bowjob>	if mpex is dog, that site is dog shit's dog shit.
Feb 02 09:46:03 <Diablo-D3>	do not try to complete an order until they do, you will lose coins
Feb 02 09:46:29 <mircea_popescu>	^^
Feb 02 09:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	he knows.
Feb 02 09:46:49 <bowjob>	of course not. i'll wait for them to fix it before provably throwing away 80 BTC
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Feb 02 09:47:35 <kakobrekla>	china will grow larger.
Feb 02 09:49:29 <bowjob>	"look on the bright side.   this is probably a good indication of how your unit would work."
Feb 02 09:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Feb 02 09:49:47 <bowjob>	Yeap. May as well switch to BFL, but pay with PayPal
Feb 02 09:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	tha'ts just mean
Feb 02 09:49:52 <bowjob>	that way I got my ass covered
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Feb 02 09:53:00 <pigeons>	i will buy 2nd hand asics from the people who borrowed on their credit cards to buy them and underestimated the difficulty rise or don't getthem soon enough
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Feb 02 09:53:29 <bowjob>	I'm already willing to throw 80 BTC to some potential scam and yet they can't set up a way to facilitate the transfer
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Feb 02 09:53:33 <bowjob>	*yawn
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Feb 02 09:58:22 <bowjob>	Fuck this shit. I'm too tired. I've been awake for nearly 36 hours, I've spent the majority of the time walking around. Congrats to the (un)fortunate fucker who will get my spot.
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Feb 02 09:58:59 <bowjob>	I'll buy something called hold, it costs nothing and it's done me good so far.
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Feb 02 10:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	another satisfied asic customer
Feb 02 10:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	soon we'll have enough for a private army.
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Feb 02 10:14:21 <jurov>	fuckfuck mpex did it again
Feb 02 10:15:00 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: please do at least check of output data.. so it outputs some error instead of nonsense
Feb 02 10:15:01 <Ukerz>	?
Feb 02 10:15:23 <jurov>	it sent me valid json but no balances/orders
Feb 02 10:15:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
Feb 02 10:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
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Feb 02 10:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : email me a copy of this thing
Feb 02 10:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00729494 = 2.8377 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 10:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140700.0 vircurex is listing its exchange
Feb 02 10:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	you planning the same with weex Ukto ?
Feb 02 10:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00067714 = 4.9093 BTC [+]
Feb 02 10:24:28 <dust-otc>	does anyone want to make a scam accusation thread against imsaguy?
Feb 02 10:24:38 <dust-otc>	I believe his behavior deserves one, but he doesn't owe me any money
Feb 02 10:25:10 <jurov>	mircea_popescu:  sent
Feb 02 10:27:24 <jurov>	I won't speak for Ukto just I think he'll keep the exchange privately owned atm. me with coinbr likewise.
Feb 02 10:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ty
Feb 02 10:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	jurov the usd/btc exchange is at issue
Feb 02 10:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	not the securities exchange
Feb 02 10:27:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5939 @ 0.00067714 = 4.0215 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 10:30:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6579 @ 0.00067714 = 4.4549 BTC [+]
Feb 02 10:30:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4793 @ 0.00067716 = 3.2456 BTC [+]
Feb 02 10:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00067395 = 5.8297 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:35:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Feb 02 10:37:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 994 @ 0.00067395 = 0.6699 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 274 @ 0.00067355 = 0.1846 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:37:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067125 = 2.9005 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6211 @ 0.00067124 = 4.1691 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:39:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2129 @ 0.00067124 = 1.4291 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00067011 = 1.2203 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:39:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00066657 = 9.6653 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:39:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00066351 = 2.6209 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:39:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43250 @ 0.00066081 = 28.58 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:41:18 <jurov>	adding into sources long overdue check:
Feb 02 10:41:31 <jurov>	if not 'CxBTC' in stat['Holdings']:
Feb 02 10:41:54 <jurov>	log.error("No BTC on MPEx, flipping bozo bit")
Feb 02 10:41:55 <jurov>	transaction.doom()
Feb 02 10:41:57 <jurov>	raise
Feb 02 10:42:32 <pigeons>	i was trying to use margin!
Feb 02 10:43:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5 BTC [+]
Feb 02 10:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov that's an idea.
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Feb 02 10:49:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1242 @ 0.000677 = 0.8408 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 10:52:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00067619 = 3.9219 BTC [-]
Feb 02 10:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3079 @ 0.000677 = 2.0845 BTC [+]
Feb 02 10:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7033 @ 0.00067716 = 4.7625 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 10:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1733 @ 0.00739 = 12.8069 BTC [+]
Feb 02 10:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 567 @ 0.007395 = 4.193 BTC [+]
Feb 02 10:58:26 <mjr_>	hi all
Feb 02 10:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7620 @ 0.00067716 = 5.16 BTC [+]
Feb 02 10:58:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 830 @ 0.00067717 = 0.5621 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 11:01:41 *	mircea_popescu contemplates issuing jurov a multi-billion btc fakestat just to mess with him
Feb 02 11:02:22 <jurov>	meh, already happened twice. just with options instead of btc
Feb 02 11:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	a, back in the early beta days
Feb 02 11:03:05 <mircea_popescu>	i recall.
Feb 02 11:03:09 <mircea_popescu>	well ok then!
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Feb 02 11:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066257 = 2.863 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7512 @ 0.00066253 = 4.9769 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:28:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 322 @ 0.49173352 = 158.3382 BTC
Feb 02 11:29:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.85 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Feb 02 11:31:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.85 = 10.2 BTC [+]
Feb 02 11:32:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066576 = 2.8767 BTC [+]
Feb 02 11:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8290 @ 0.00066599 = 5.5211 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 11:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006626 = 2.8631 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1099 @ 0.00066254 = 0.7281 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:37:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8901 @ 0.00066254 = 5.8973 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12496 @ 0.00066253 = 8.279 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:37:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12403 @ 0.00066081 = 8.196 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00066581 = 1.3982 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 11:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1765 @ 0.00066081 = 1.1663 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:45:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8235 @ 0.00066 = 5.4351 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1765 @ 0.00066 = 1.1649 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:47:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2435 @ 0.00065961 = 1.6062 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 11:51:43 <smickles>	god damn
Feb 02 11:52:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065962 = 6.5962 BTC [+]
Feb 02 11:52:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5565 @ 0.00065961 = 3.6707 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:52:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1385 @ 0.00065961 = 0.9136 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:52:52 <smickles>	I just realized that I paid 33~ btc for one year of this vps back when btc was around 4 bucks
Feb 02 11:52:54 <gigavps>	smickles, what's wrong?
Feb 02 11:53:03 <gigavps>	o, yeah
Feb 02 11:53:05 <gigavps>	that sucks
Feb 02 11:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00065961 = 6.8599 BTC [-]
Feb 02 11:53:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's not really a loss is it.
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Feb 02 11:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2221 @ 0.00066581 = 1.4788 BTC [+]
Feb 02 11:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4286 @ 0.00066599 = 2.8544 BTC [+]
Feb 02 11:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2024 @ 0.00066599 = 1.348 BTC [+]
Feb 02 11:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.0006763 = 4.1931 BTC [+]
Feb 02 11:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9270 @ 0.00067717 = 6.2774 BTC [+]
Feb 02 11:58:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3406 @ 0.0006773 = 2.3069 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067729 = 6.7729 BTC [-]
Feb 02 12:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.0006773 = 3.3526 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 12:03:56 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, it's more about the disconnected thought of 'what if I had that btc now'
Feb 02 12:04:56 <smickles>	especially if you condider what I got for what value i gave up at the time
Feb 02 12:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	ya but still... at the time btc still was 4 bux
Feb 02 12:06:50 <smickles>	heh, i guess there was ambiguity in that last line of mine
Feb 02 12:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-greatest-smartphone-app/
Feb 02 12:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6194 @ 0.0006773 = 4.1952 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:20:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7151 @ 0.00067789 = 4.8476 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:22:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00067259 = 5.717 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 12:23:07 <Bugpowder>	can i get a hells yeah?
Feb 02 12:23:34 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 02 12:23:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.01826, Best ask: 20.08896, Bid-ask spread: 0.07070, Last trade: 20.01826, 24 hour volume: 91960.08171071, 24 hour low: 18.00000, 24 hour high: 21.10000, 24 hour vwap: 19.72764
Feb 02 12:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00067259 = 3.7329 BTC [-]
Feb 02 12:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066001 = 2.8519 BTC [-]
Feb 02 12:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3239 @ 0.00066 = 2.1377 BTC [-]
Feb 02 12:26:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067768 = 2.9283 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:26:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2449 @ 0.00067789 = 1.6602 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8730 @ 0.0006779 = 5.9181 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066026 = 2.853 BTC [-]
Feb 02 12:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6761 @ 0.00066 = 4.4623 BTC [-]
Feb 02 12:28:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5518 @ 0.00065987 = 3.6412 BTC [-]
Feb 02 12:28:50 <mjr_>	back above 20
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Feb 02 12:30:07 <Bugpowder>	on the weekend
Feb 02 12:30:17 <Bugpowder>	no fresh cash deposits
Feb 02 12:30:23 <Bugpowder>	BULLISH
Feb 02 12:30:27 <Bugpowder>	:-P
Feb 02 12:33:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 48 @ 1 = 48 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 02 12:35:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.08903, Best ask: 20.18000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09097, Last trade: 20.08903, 24 hour volume: 91978.23757009, 24 hour low: 18.00000, 24 hour high: 21.10000, 24 hour vwap: 19.72608
Feb 02 12:35:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0079 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:35:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20 @ 0.0006779 = 0.0136 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:35:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3330 @ 0.00068004 = 2.2645 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6670 @ 0.00068004 = 4.5359 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068005 = 2.9385 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5360 @ 0.00068006 = 3.6451 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	okays, seems the echo is resolved as well.
Feb 02 12:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	what an eventful day.
Feb 02 12:39:46 <mjr_>	do bitcoins remind anyone else of kongbucks?
Feb 02 12:40:24 <mjr_>	maybe we might see burbclaves in my lifetime lol
Feb 02 12:41:44 <evoorhees>	hey all
Feb 02 12:41:49 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1009 re-doing that would be a worthy exercise
Feb 02 12:41:58 <mircea_popescu>	may 2012 is right before s.dice started to move, among other things
Feb 02 12:41:59 <evoorhees>	SD dividend is about to launch
Feb 02 12:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	heya!
Feb 02 12:43:41 <evoorhees>	DONE
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Feb 02 12:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	MPEx ‏@MPEx1
Feb 02 12:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	S.DICE paid a total dividend of 2`000.73731948 BTC to 10`000`000 outstanding shares. #dividend #bitcoin #btc #stocks
Feb 02 12:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla assbot gotta do dividends again
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Feb 02 12:47:53 <ShaTwo>	evoorhees: Congratulation! Amazingly done!
Feb 02 12:48:51 <mjr_>	Very very nice evoorhees
Feb 02 12:49:06 <evoorhees>	thanks guys
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Feb 02 12:49:23 <mjr_>	so great to see such a success story...and i think the future looks even brighter
Feb 02 12:49:37 <evoorhees>	I think the most exciting thing is that this rediculous numbers will get the attention of established gambling sites, and they will no longer ignore bitcoin
Feb 02 12:50:28 <mjr_>	yes exactly
Feb 02 12:50:29 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: working on it
Feb 02 12:50:31 <ShaTwo>	They got my attention a few months back...
Feb 02 12:50:41 <ShaTwo>	When they were not even as big.
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Feb 02 12:51:05 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: but most BTC users will ignore the results, even more firmly than they ignored Shamir's.
Feb 02 12:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform good, then i can point out why the theory is nonsense on fresh data.
Feb 02 12:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	and most btc users matter in the sense most los angeles self-styled actresses matter.
Feb 02 12:53:09 <mjr_>	this is like the matrix...i can only imagine (if the asics turn out to be widespread) just how many petaflops we will reach
Feb 02 12:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	petaflops is really a measure of floating point computation
Feb 02 12:53:33 <mjr_>	this is the biggest distributed computing project in human history i imagine
Feb 02 12:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	sha hashing is integer computation
Feb 02 12:53:38 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 02 12:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	the two aren't really all that interchangeable
Feb 02 12:53:48 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 02 12:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	we just do it because we're very lazy
Feb 02 12:53:53 <mjr_>	terahashes is what matter
Feb 02 12:54:10 <mjr_>	but it is nice to see how this compares to boinc or seti@home etc
Feb 02 12:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	nice is one way to put it. from what i've seen in sa's digests, it burns some people
Feb 02 12:54:57 <mjr_>	how would the cray titan do at hashing?
Feb 02 12:55:11 <mjr_>	and i don't really care about sa...
Feb 02 12:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	not very well.
Feb 02 12:55:33 <mjr_>	rationality says i bet with my money and they bet with theirs...the outcome will be objective
Feb 02 12:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	what, you're at war or something ?
Feb 02 12:55:49 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: care to say why the theory is nonsense?
Feb 02 12:56:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.875 = 4.375 BTC [+]
Feb 02 12:56:26 <mjr_>	huh? not at war...but when two people disagree, they bet on the outcome, the winner wins...in pure rational economics...which this isn't
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Feb 02 12:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	not worth it on the old data set. get a fresh one.
Feb 02 12:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ now that's true
Feb 02 12:57:10 <mjr_>	well, its overly simplified, but yes, if btc hits a thousand or even 40 we objectively chose correctly
Feb 02 12:57:15 <mjr_>	and they objectively didn't
Feb 02 12:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	20 is actually good enough already.
Feb 02 12:57:52 <mjr_>	i agree
Feb 02 12:58:03 <mjr_>	but i don't think they would be able to be as smug at 40....
Feb 02 12:58:12 <mjr_>	i don't see how they could talk about it at all
Feb 02 12:58:35 <mjr_>	without being extremely mad at themselves for understanding bitcoins, but then choosing to reject
Feb 02 12:58:52 <mjr_>	that's the sad part is that they know more about it than a lot of users
Feb 02 12:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	not everyone is profit motivated.
Feb 02 12:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	in fact, most people who spend a lot of time on forums aren't.
Feb 02 12:59:05 <mjr_>	good point...
Feb 02 12:59:11 <mjr_>	also a great point
Feb 02 12:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	if they were, they'd do real work rather than the sort of boring nonsense that lends itself to foruming
Feb 02 12:59:26 <mjr_>	but even in matters of debate
Feb 02 12:59:29 <mjr_>	which they do care about
Feb 02 12:59:38 <mjr_>	the real world bears out theories or doesn't
Feb 02 12:59:51 <mjr_>	so their theory will look stupid (moreso than now)
Feb 02 13:00:02 <mjr_>	and that is something they would care about
Feb 02 13:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	not really. there's not an objective standard of proof, especially not for people who aren't interested in seeing certain result sets.
Feb 02 13:00:29 <mjr_>	i guess...
Feb 02 13:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00067641 = 7.6434 BTC [-]
Feb 02 13:00:51 <mjr_>	it is very insular, and they probably won't look at any data that disagrees with their preconceived notion
Feb 02 13:01:47 <mjr_>	what is the command here to look at sdice bid/ask?
Feb 02 13:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	if you read through it appears obvious what the actual problems they identify with bitcoin are
Feb 02 13:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	"fygm", for instance, is quite telling.
Feb 02 13:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	they dislike the fact bitcoin will necessarily bring down the welfare state.
Feb 02 13:02:14 <mjr_>	yeah, they conflate "people like to scam people" with "bitcoin is an instrument of scamming"
Feb 02 13:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	this is a valid criticism, it will. as long as they don't want this to happen, bitcoin is and will remain a bad thing.
Feb 02 13:02:31 <mjr_>	they must not have ever heard of bernie madoff
Feb 02 13:02:50 <mjr_>	oh, bitcoin will be very bad for some people
Feb 02 13:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 02 13:03:10 <mjr_>	i thought the argument was "will it succeed", the results of it are different for each person
Feb 02 13:03:13 <mircea_popescu>	so then, those very people will say bitcoin is very bad. no surprise.
Feb 02 13:03:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0079 = 0.079 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:03:34 <mjr_>	i think banks will not like it very much, nor would governments if taken to its logical conclusion...
Feb 02 13:03:43 <mjr_>	but i don't think that means it won't succeed
Feb 02 13:03:53 <mjr_>	i would take it seriously, and i would adapt
Feb 02 13:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Feb 02 13:04:17 <mjr_>	i think snowcrash is going to be somewhat of a prophecy at this point lol
Feb 02 13:04:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066535 = 2.875 BTC [-]
Feb 02 13:04:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34750 @ 0.00066524 = 23.1171 BTC [-]
Feb 02 13:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 129 @ 0.00066411 = 0.0857 BTC [-]
Feb 02 13:04:56 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Feb 02 13:04:57 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Feb 02 13:05:00 <jurov>	congrats satoshidice
Feb 02 13:05:00 <mjr_>	that book touches a lot of interesting points, but i think it's tamest assertion is that a country is only as strong as it's monetary supply
Feb 02 13:05:03 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 02 13:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.007148 / 0.00737178 / 0.007395 (143373 shares, 1,056.91 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00731861 / 0.00749999 (574974 shares, 4,208.01 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00487004 / 0.0075 (6619114 shares, 32,235.38 BTC)
Feb 02 13:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	im fascinated at the relative lack of movement.
Feb 02 13:05:21 <mjr_>	wish i had bitcoins now
Feb 02 13:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	apparently nobody was holding for div time
Feb 02 13:05:26 <jurov>	 how comes i unexpectedly received something and the address points to http://bitbet.us/bet/131/btc-will-have-a-new-highest-price-in/ ?
Feb 02 13:05:32 <jurov>	that bet isn't closed
Feb 02 13:05:40 <mjr_>	4 days i will be ready to invest
Feb 02 13:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	jurov did you use same addy for other bets?
Feb 02 13:06:15 <jurov>	maybe, i don't remember, but only this one was found.
Feb 02 13:06:43 <Bugpowder>	same lack of movement last div too
Feb 02 13:07:01 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder very institutional-like investors i guess
Feb 02 13:07:36 <mjr_>	buy and hold is usually the best strategy
Feb 02 13:07:52 <mjr_>	(assuming you invest in companies you believe in)
Feb 02 13:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is true.
Feb 02 13:08:17 <mjr_>	has anyone read antifragile?
Feb 02 13:08:46 <mjr_>	i'm not finished with it, but i think so far that it is very interesting when looked at through the eyes of a bitcoiner
Feb 02 13:09:28 <mjr_>	and i would be extremely interested to know what Taleb Nassim thinks about btc
Feb 02 13:10:36 <mircea_popescu>	hey, ask him. i'd be interested too.
Feb 02 13:11:05 <mjr_>	in fact, i wonder if universa capital (his investment fund) would be interested lol
Feb 02 13:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	give them a call.
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Feb 02 13:12:11 <mjr_>	http://www.universa.net/ just read the front page...i think i might have better luck with email...though i am pretty sure i'll get filtered out quickly
Feb 02 13:13:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066682 = 2.8813 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00066696 = 3.4542 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:15:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3339 @ 0.00066696 = 2.227 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:16:37 <jurov>	i did not notice the "Open" choice is by default on bitbet search
Feb 02 13:16:58 <jurov>	yup, made 1BTC on asic non-delivery bet
Feb 02 13:17:05 <mircea_popescu>	wd.
Feb 02 13:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	was a tough one to close that.
Feb 02 13:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1498765#msg1498765 this is sorta funny.
Feb 02 13:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 who told you to get involved with avalon baby.
Feb 02 13:20:21 <jurov>	reminder for people who want to bet on/against asics and don't have mpex account: https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-E
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Feb 02 13:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00739499 = 8.874 BTC [-]
Feb 02 13:22:58 <mjr_>	why are people doubting delivery? i'm just curious, i thought the first ones already were delived...
Feb 02 13:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees do you suppose something like a 100% win address for sdice would be a good idea ?
Feb 02 13:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ they sent two prototype units.
Feb 02 13:23:20 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 02 13:23:36 <mjr_>	so they may not have ramped up production as much as previously thought
Feb 02 13:23:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6711 @ 0.00067226 = 4.5115 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 689 @ 0.00066438 = 0.4578 BTC [-]
Feb 02 13:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, apparently ineedausername resurfaced, and is paying his gippt thing in full.
Feb 02 13:27:23 <evoorhees>	mircea... that's kinda interesting
Feb 02 13:27:27 <evoorhees>	you mean for promotion or what?
Feb 02 13:28:14 <mircea_popescu>	no. for mixing.
Feb 02 13:28:35 <evoorhees>	how would that help SD?
Feb 02 13:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	you send X btc, you receive 9x% of x back 100% of time
Feb 02 13:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	you take your rake.
Feb 02 13:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	possibly make it so that inputs sent to that addy are NEVER 0conf'd and as a result they never receive back anything based on the same inputs.
Feb 02 13:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	you've got by far the best mixer out there, might as well use it as such
Feb 02 13:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	(course people can do it already by just playing)
Feb 02 13:30:53 <evoorhees>	not sure I'd want to advocate it as a mixer
Feb 02 13:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	just a thought.
Feb 02 13:31:03 <evoorhees>	it's a good though
Feb 02 13:31:06 <evoorhees>	thought*
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Feb 02 13:37:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00067641 = 1.4881 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:38:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1840 @ 0.00068006 = 1.2513 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0006803 = 5.2043 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:38:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00068032 = 1.8369 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:38:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2560 @ 0.00068038 = 1.7418 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:41:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.875 = 6.125 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:44:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.88 = 2.64 BTC [+]
Feb 02 13:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	dude srlsy ?
Feb 02 13:50:55 <JohnGalt1337>	somebody just got robbed
Feb 02 13:53:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3632 @ 0.00066438 = 2.413 BTC [-]
Feb 02 13:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4468 @ 0.00066412 = 2.9673 BTC [-]
Feb 02 13:57:37 <jurov>	Our many and talented graphical artists are hard at work refining the abyssal beauty that is MPEx.co, and I dare not interrupt them.
Feb 02 13:57:46 <jurov>	^^mircea, do you use gremlins?
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Feb 02 13:59:22 <jurov>	*use/employ
Feb 02 14:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	pixies
Feb 02 14:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1209 @ 0.00737449 = 8.9158 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:13:16 <jurov>	now am really curious what will reddit say to it all: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17rjzk/mpex_this_is_what_we_mean_by_bitcoin_will/
Feb 02 14:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.007395 = 73.95 BTC [+]
Feb 02 14:14:17 <Bugpowder>	reddit is truly full of morons
Feb 02 14:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	noo !?
Feb 02 14:15:15 <jurov>	perhaps. but someone might get the point.
Feb 02 14:17:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.79 = 31.6 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:17:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.79 = 11.85 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:17:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.79 = 15.8 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:17:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.79 = 3.16 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:17:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.79 = 10.27 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:18:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5532 @ 0.00066412 = 3.6739 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2868 @ 0.00066411 = 1.9047 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:18:51 <Bugpowder>	http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/02/98-asic-choices-avalon-update.html
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Feb 02 14:22:47 <smickles>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-tech-stuff/#footnote_0_45984 makes the fee i paid worth it :)
Feb 02 14:23:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.79 = 3.95 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:25:24 <evoorhees>	sorry noob question here...
Feb 02 14:25:36 <evoorhees>	why are havelock shares of SDICE 0.79?
Feb 02 14:25:40 <evoorhees>	are they sold in batches of 100?
Feb 02 14:25:46 <jurov>	yes they are
Feb 02 14:25:54 <evoorhees>	question answered, thanks :)
Feb 02 14:27:06 <mircea_popescu>	course i guess topace hasn't been on in a little
Feb 02 14:27:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	and he's run out of shares driving the price up
Feb 02 14:28:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0079 BTC [+]
Feb 02 14:28:57 <jurov>	ironically, most actively maintained/arbitraged passthrough is the litecoin one, run by deprived
Feb 02 14:29:35 <jurov>	through coinbr :D
Feb 02 14:30:43 <jurov>	he moves stuff almost every day
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Feb 02 14:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	deprived is really very competent/active
Feb 02 14:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	not sure why he sits put in ltcs.
Feb 02 14:34:43 <mjr_>	really nice article on reddit mircea_popescu
Feb 02 14:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	a ty
Feb 02 14:34:56 <mircea_popescu>	so upvote
Feb 02 14:35:02 <mjr_>	no account
Feb 02 14:35:06 <mjr_>	but i can change that
Feb 02 14:35:09 <mjr_>	hold on
Feb 02 14:36:06 <jurov>	*snatches the article away*
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Feb 02 14:37:07 <mjr_>	upvoted
Feb 02 14:37:24 <mjr_>	specifically about database locking
Feb 02 14:37:36 <mjr_>	i'm not sure i understood how you were fixing that issue
Feb 02 14:38:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [-]
Feb 02 14:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	the how wasn't actually explained.
Feb 02 14:38:48 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 02 14:39:14 <mjr_>	that makes sense then that i didn't understand it...i have to deal with databases a lot and they can be a pain
Feb 02 14:39:24 <mjr_>	specifically because of locking issues...
Feb 02 14:39:44 <mjr_>	also, how would dedicated circuits play into what you were talking about re: phishing
Feb 02 14:40:07 <mjr_>	i mean, the endpoints are fixed, and don't most banks rely on them, in colocations and carrier hotels?
Feb 02 14:40:38 <jurov>	dedicated circuits???
Feb 02 14:40:41 <mjr_>	we get our market data through instinet and sfti...but it is not really over the internet
Feb 02 14:40:51 <mjr_>	everything goes through a physical point to point connection
Feb 02 14:41:31 <mjr_>	dedicated circuit...maybe metro ethernet in some cases
Feb 02 14:41:48 <mjr_>	but typically it is a /29 subnet mask...only 2 addresses anyway
Feb 02 14:41:57 <jurov>	i don't think mpex will be able to afford laying fiber even to biggest customers in near future
Feb 02 14:42:03 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 02 14:42:10 <mjr_>	not have to  lay fiber
Feb 02 14:42:27 <mjr_>	host in a data center where you can cross connect to other people
Feb 02 14:43:05 <jurov>	but that's tailored to HFT. and MP is quite anti-HFT.
Feb 02 14:43:07 <mjr_>	just curious, because most big markets and banks do that...so i don't know how phishing can interfere in those cases, obviously customer on online banking website is vulnerable
Feb 02 14:43:32 <mjr_>	kinda...i think it is mostly for reliabilty and just plain access
Feb 02 14:44:00 <mjr_>	for example, if you want arca market data...you have to get it from somewhere and typically you do that through a circuit
Feb 02 14:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ a dedicated circuit is vulnerable to splicing
Feb 02 14:44:13 <mjr_>	yes true
Feb 02 14:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	in principle, there's two ways to handle things :
Feb 02 14:44:23 <mjr_>	but not with the same ease as phishing typically
Feb 02 14:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	either secure the conduit, message agnostic, or secure the message, conduit agnostic.
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Feb 02 14:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	everyone is currently doing the former. i am doing the later
Feb 02 14:44:42 <mircea_popescu>	and i say it's the Right Thing.
Feb 02 14:44:44 <mjr_>	well when put that way, conduit agnostic is very much prefferd
Feb 02 14:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Feb 02 14:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	https is securing the conduit, ignoring the message. so is dedicated circuit. so is everything done currently pretty much
Feb 02 14:45:17 <mircea_popescu>	no wonder it doesn't work.
Feb 02 14:45:21 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 02 14:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	now, fiber is slightly bettert as a secure conduit, esp if you have quantum verifiers
Feb 02 14:45:40 <mjr_>	do you think you could build encryption into the nic card and switch/router?
Feb 02 14:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	(which are epensive tho)
Feb 02 14:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	but in general, you can't secure a cable.
Feb 02 14:45:50 <mjr_>	LOL yes they certainly are
Feb 02 14:46:20 <mircea_popescu>	i would expect that encryption stays with the person.
Feb 02 14:46:28 <mircea_popescu>	see the next article on the blog about something along those lines.
Feb 02 14:46:39 <mjr_>	yes, i just mean that typically pgp is not the easiest thing for most people
Feb 02 14:46:47 <mjr_>	i agree completely that encryption is vital
Feb 02 14:46:53 <mjr_>	and i think you are doing things the Right Way
Feb 02 14:47:38 <mjr_>	sometimes the Right Way is also the Hard Way, though, and even though it's well worth the value, adoption rate is important, so making the Right Way easier would be nice
Feb 02 14:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> but that's tailored to HFT. and MP is quite anti-HFT. << im not anti hft. im anti stupidity, which is mostly phantom orders.
Feb 02 14:48:01 <mjr_>	yes very true
Feb 02 14:48:09 <mjr_>	i was going to ask about speed of executions...
Feb 02 14:48:55 <jurov>	mircea, good clarification.
Feb 02 14:49:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00066716 = 3.0689 BTC [+]
Feb 02 14:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	no argument that this is kinda hard, but not so sure it's for a good reason
Feb 02 14:49:04 <mjr_>	jurov: and if he was against HFT why would he provide API? it's practically the only use for it, besides building a pretty front end (although maybe you mean a slow bot?)
Feb 02 14:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... oral sex seems the HARD THING,
Feb 02 14:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	esp if you're a 1950s housewife
Feb 02 14:49:25 <mjr_>	yes changing attitudes is tough
Feb 02 14:49:29 <mjr_>	but inevitable
Feb 02 14:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ the problem with hfts isn't that they're fast. it's that they retroactively change time.
Feb 02 14:49:51 <mircea_popescu>	as in... this order "wasn't really there sorry".
Feb 02 14:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	that's bs.
Feb 02 14:50:02 <mjr_>	total bs, and i don't know how you would do that
Feb 02 14:50:07 <mjr_>	if you get the ack back...its real
Feb 02 14:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya well give me an example of a hft getting crossed by retail lol.
Feb 02 14:50:34 <mjr_>	and most exchanges won't bust that trade for you
Feb 02 14:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	actually, let me dig out this instructive example
Feb 02 14:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpex-and-the-hft-problem/
Feb 02 14:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	mostly for the quote
Feb 02 14:51:02 <mjr_>	my favorite usage of HFT was the guy who used the speed of light to his advantage
Feb 02 14:51:20 <mjr_>	ie. it would take 11ms for any information from NY to reach Chicago
Feb 02 14:51:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 738 @ 0.007395 = 5.4575 BTC [+]
Feb 02 14:51:51 <mjr_>	so he would have a bot place orders at a very specific time, and then in chicago have orders in place to take advantage of the move he just caused
Feb 02 14:52:10 <mjr_>	he literally knew the future, because he caused it
Feb 02 14:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Feb 02 14:52:25 <mjr_>	admittedly only 11ms into the future but in HFT that can be enough
Feb 02 14:52:57 <mjr_>	quantum arbitrage LOL
Feb 02 14:54:19 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like stuff to write novels with
Feb 02 14:54:39 <mjr_>	yeah, by the way
Feb 02 14:54:46 <mjr_>	your implementation of the solution is already in place
Feb 02 14:54:52 <mjr_>	ie. delayed cancels
Feb 02 14:55:08 <mjr_>	dark pools can be very specific about how long you have to wait b4 canceling
Feb 02 14:55:14 <mjr_>	on one that we use, it's 30 seconds
Feb 02 14:55:27 <mjr_>	they can also limit which symbols you can use, how much volume, everything
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Feb 02 14:55:44 <mjr_>	in exchange for being able to bypass the bots and in fact the whole order book
Feb 02 14:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	something lik that, yes
Feb 02 14:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	how much do they charge ?
Feb 02 14:56:05 <mjr_>	depends...
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Feb 02 14:56:15 <mjr_>	many times it's around $1 per 1,000
Feb 02 14:56:25 <mjr_>	with the most expensive being $2.50
Feb 02 14:56:36 <mjr_>	or somewhere around there
Feb 02 14:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	but yeah, i lay no claim to genius on the "not instacancellable" part. ffs it's beyond obvious.
Feb 02 14:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ a, no fixed fee to be included ?
Feb 02 14:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	many darkpools do charge a seat fee.
Feb 02 14:57:09 <mjr_>	hmmm....you have to negotiate that with the company, and that is usually on a company level of interaction
Feb 02 14:57:17 <mjr_>	ie. your company offers you access to these routes
Feb 02 14:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	yeah,
Feb 02 14:57:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1464 @ 0.007395 = 10.8263 BTC [+]
Feb 02 14:57:31 <mjr_>	that is the specific area where my company shines...
Feb 02 14:57:38 <mjr_>	at least somewhat
Feb 02 14:58:00 <mjr_>	prop trading can't really work without access to liquidity pools
Feb 02 14:58:08 <mjr_>	good fill rates, cheap fees
Feb 02 14:58:15 <mjr_>	even though i think scalping is almost dead
Feb 02 14:58:38 <mjr_>	thanks to something known as "toxic order flow"
Feb 02 14:58:41 <mircea_popescu>	it dies, it comes back
Feb 02 14:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	it's like a zombie
Feb 02 14:58:47 <mjr_>	hahaha
Feb 02 14:59:10 <mjr_>	what also was interesting is that our system is built by romanians
Feb 02 14:59:36 <mjr_>	so much respect to the education system there in regards to math and science
Feb 02 14:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	5 points (69% like it)
Feb 02 14:59:45 <mircea_popescu>	9 up votes 4 down votes
Feb 02 14:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	i like how that thing is getting upvoted into a frenzy
Feb 02 15:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	but reddit keeps it at 5
Feb 02 15:00:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.0098 = 0.098 BTC [-]
Feb 02 15:00:38 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 02 15:01:20 <mjr_>	;;help
Feb 02 15:01:21 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Feb 02 15:01:39 <mjr_>	!facts
Feb 02 15:01:56 <mjr_>	ok...
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Feb 02 15:06:48 <mjr_>	two questions, are signup fees accounted for in mpoe, and can you transfer your positions from a broker back to mpex
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Feb 02 15:07:02 <smickles>	yes and yes
Feb 02 15:07:20 <mjr_>	thanks
Feb 02 15:07:25 <mjr_>	that is an awesome model
Feb 02 15:07:44 <jurov>	mjr_, do you already decided on referral?
Feb 02 15:07:46 <smickles>	well, technically, the fee goes to mpex, but it gets paid to s.mpoe shareholders
Feb 02 15:07:47 <mjr_>	mirceau_popescu: also, I love how you mention NYSE as underdog
Feb 02 15:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ if you mean accounted for as in, passed ti shareholders, yes. there's a special line in the monthly reports.
Feb 02 15:08:02 <mjr_>	cool
Feb 02 15:08:08 <mjr_>	that's what i meant
Feb 02 15:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	and as to the brokers, you have to ask them, but most everyone does it.
Feb 02 15:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	not doing it pretty much means bucket shop/fraud
Feb 02 15:08:32 <mjr_>	because it would be awesome to be able to contribute to a business that you are invested in...signing up helps your actual investment
Feb 02 15:08:59 <mjr_>	well, i really look forward to wider acceptance, and hopefully larger holdings for me...
Feb 02 15:09:01 <smickles>	if only a little
Feb 02 15:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ that's the ide
Feb 02 15:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	a
Feb 02 15:09:40 <mjr_>	Amadeo Giannini i would like to be like this guy
Feb 02 15:09:45 <mjr_>	and start lending
Feb 02 15:10:02 <mjr_>	set up a table on the docks and hand out money
Feb 02 15:10:10 <mjr_>	it worked out ok for him...
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Feb 02 15:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	not that easy tgo
Feb 02 15:10:42 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 02 15:11:00 <mjr_>	i think what will have to happen is that you will have to use current practices, but denominate loans in btc
Feb 02 15:11:03 <malaimo>	since you guys are talking about mpex architecture: would be cool to make withdrawals more automated, e.g. as on the exchanges
Feb 02 15:13:36 <smickles>	hmm, sounds spooky
Feb 02 15:14:06 <mjr_>	can you not automate that using the API?
Feb 02 15:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	malaimo i have my doubts about that.
Feb 02 15:14:28 <smickles>	all withdrawals are manually approved
Feb 02 15:14:52 <smickles>	malaimo: if you want instant withdrawal, used a broker who provides that
Feb 02 15:15:16 <jurov>	wow, there actually is one?
Feb 02 15:15:41 <smickles>	I'm sure there is/are for relatively small amounts
Feb 02 15:16:08 <jurov>	in coinbr case it's possible but far from guaranteed
Feb 02 15:16:32 <smickles>	yeah, much depends on the broker's 'off mpex float'
Feb 02 15:17:03 <smickles>	or the availability of cheap shortterm loans
Feb 02 15:18:51 <mjr_>	has anyone really started using the advanced bitcoin features?
Feb 02 15:18:58 <gesell>	i think google is starting to seriously throttle my all my google code since i put the arbitrage spreadsheet on reddit :/
Feb 02 15:19:05 <smickles>	which ones? mjr_
Feb 02 15:19:10 <gesell>	grr
Feb 02 15:19:15 <mjr_>	third party arbitration
Feb 02 15:19:18 <mjr_>	contracts etc
Feb 02 15:19:52 <mjr_>	that could be used to form a trust service (maybe against the founding goals, but still, could be useful)
Feb 02 15:20:19 <mjr_>	like for example...i don't think i have ever read one negative article about mpex or mirceau_popescu
Feb 02 15:20:19 <smickles>	i think there are a few things which use the m-of-n signature txns, but i've not seen any of the contracts or conditional sends
Feb 02 15:20:20 <jurov>	they aren't directly supported by satoshi client
Feb 02 15:20:22 <smickles>	etc
Feb 02 15:20:36 <mjr_>	so i would say most people would trust him
Feb 02 15:20:57 <smickles>	< mjr_> like for example...i don't think i have ever read one negative article about mpex or mirceau_popescu <<< lolwut?
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Feb 02 15:20:59 <mjr_>	the closest i ever read was sock puppet on SA..but that wasn't even really saying anything bad
Feb 02 15:21:14 <mjr_>	ie. no one has ever said he scammed them
Feb 02 15:21:19 <mjr_>	that i've read on a forum
Feb 02 15:21:39 <mjr_>	maybe chats i missed here, but i would say he has the equivalent of AAA credit within bitcoin
Feb 02 15:21:42 <smickles>	there are people who're pissed about the way f.giga.etf went
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Feb 02 15:22:28 <mjr_>	ok, i missed that discussion
Feb 02 15:22:42 <smickles>	but, yeah, most to all of the 'bad' about mpex/mircea is that mpex looks ugly
Feb 02 15:22:55 <smickles>	or 'i don't understand why you use gpg'
Feb 02 15:22:58 <mjr_>	lol, maybe should do more research, but still...within bitcoin who would have the highest "credit rating"
Feb 02 15:23:03 <smickles>	in not so nice words
Feb 02 15:23:05 <mjr_>	lol, thats one of my favorite parts of it
Feb 02 15:23:09 <mjr_>	mpex UI
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Feb 02 15:23:20 <mjr_>	look at reddit
Feb 02 15:23:26 <mjr_>	craigslist
Feb 02 15:23:39 <mjr_>	sometimes too much html5 and flash animations just get annoying
Feb 02 15:23:59 <mjr_>	ooh rounded corners and drop shadow
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Feb 02 15:24:29 <mjr_>	a lot of current websites are very much "form over function"
Feb 02 15:24:41 <smickles>	the f.giga.etf issue was basically, that the original gigavps asset stopped, and people thought that the mpex listing would take action to acquire the new gigavps
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Feb 02 15:25:09 <mjr_>	what was that company doing? an etf of what?
Feb 02 15:25:29 <smickles>	and mircea felt that taking action to acquire a new asset when the original one dissolved was outside of the f.gigga.etf contract
Feb 02 15:25:37 <smickles>	(it wasn't really an etf)
Feb 02 15:25:47 <smickles>	more like a single asset fund
Feb 02 15:25:50 <mjr_>	oh ok, i was going to say, i don't see the real point of an etf at the moment
Feb 02 15:26:08 <mjr_>	within bitcoin, there are only a few legit publicly traded companies you can buy all of them yourself
Feb 02 15:26:14 <smickles>	mircea's a bit of a word anarchist sometimes
Feb 02 15:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00067024 = 3.8874 BTC [+]
Feb 02 15:26:43 <mjr_>	oh by the way...i found the url to the site that i want to get to start taking bitcoins...
Feb 02 15:26:56 <mjr_>	options168.com
Feb 02 15:27:07 <mjr_>	one of my friends binary options ideas
Feb 02 15:28:26 <mjr_>	at the end of the day it's very similar to satoshidice (in the sense of expected value, house cut)
Feb 02 15:28:40 <mjr_>	not in the sense of using the block chain for randomness
Feb 02 15:29:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 89 @ 0.0098 = 0.8722 BTC [-]
Feb 02 15:29:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 895 @ 0.00737449 = 6.6002 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 15:30:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 12 @ 0.0099 = 0.1188 BTC [+]
Feb 02 15:32:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 373 @ 0.00737449 = 2.7507 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 15:35:31 <mjr_>	mirceau_popescu: upon furthor thought, i think that what you have set up IS the equivalent of a circuit...ie. you can verify communication between you and someone else, but i don't think it could work as a broadcast type message (i may be wrong) if i wanted it to take multiple hops, i would be vulnerable to MitM and phishing right?
Feb 02 15:36:09 <mjr_>	because only you can make sense of the message, since the message is encrypted...or am i mixing up my OSI model here :)
Feb 02 15:37:04 <mjr_>	ie PGP works for a point to point conversation, but if you want to make it routable you have to provide more info to the network (not actual content, but destination etc)
Feb 02 15:38:18 <mjr_>	is this how VPN would work too? unless i'm mistaken, i believe a VPN is encrypted (or can be)
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Feb 02 15:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00066716 = 3.6027 BTC [-]
Feb 02 15:41:44 <maximian>	more confused knuckle draggers over at Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17rae6/satoshi_dice_has_almost_tripled_since_its_ipo/
Feb 02 15:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00066715 = 1.0007 BTC [-]
Feb 02 15:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4680 @ 0.00067014 = 3.1363 BTC [+]
Feb 02 15:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067194 = 2.9035 BTC [+]
Feb 02 15:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9399 @ 0.00067229 = 6.3189 BTC [+]
Feb 02 15:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	l;alala
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Feb 02 15:48:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066737 = 2.8837 BTC [-]
Feb 02 15:48:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 279 @ 0.00066715 = 0.1861 BTC [-]
Feb 02 15:50:06 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, im being discussed :D
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Feb 02 15:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ : if i wanted it to take multiple hops, i would be vulnerable to MitM and phishing right? << wrong
Feb 02 15:51:39 <mjr_>	they couldn't read the message, but theyt could disrupt it
Feb 02 15:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	take for instance mpex db dump : http://mpex.co/db_dump.php
Feb 02 15:51:42 <mjr_>	right?
Feb 02 15:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	go ahead, download it.
Feb 02 15:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	what diff does it make ? you don't have the key for it.
Feb 02 15:52:22 <mjr_>	yes true
Feb 02 15:52:25 <mjr_>	and i took a look
Feb 02 15:52:32 <mjr_>	can't do anything with it
Feb 02 15:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	so now. if i want to talk to all the users on mpex, i could just post a long file, made out of bits, each encrypted with a user's signature.
Feb 02 15:53:00 <mircea_popescu>	everyone would only get his own, causwe that's the only one he can decrypt
Feb 02 15:53:13 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 02 15:53:20 <mircea_popescu>	conduit is completely irrelevant
Feb 02 15:53:25 <mjr_>	true
Feb 02 15:53:30 <mjr_>	thanks for the explanation
Feb 02 15:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	this is why you can always trust a mpex "phisher"
Feb 02 15:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	all he can do is proxy
Feb 02 15:54:00 <mjr_>	well that is what i meant...what if he doesn't pass on the messsage?
Feb 02 15:54:06 <mjr_>	or in other words why would he
Feb 02 15:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	then you know it's not mpex
Feb 02 15:54:15 <mjr_>	yes, true
Feb 02 15:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	that's all really.
Feb 02 15:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	but i don't see many people bothering, no. there's no benefit
Feb 02 15:54:34 <mjr_>	i think it is a clean and very secure system
Feb 02 15:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	i think so too.
Feb 02 15:54:50 <mjr_>	a lot easier than managing vpn's
Feb 02 15:55:07 <mjr_>	but do those address the issue of people being able to securely send messages?
Feb 02 15:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. this would not be feasible if i tried to do it like it;'s currently done in the fiat finance world.
Feb 02 15:55:29 <mircea_popescu>	but there's a BIG lesson in here. think about it : i have technoklogy that allows me to do what they do much cheaper.
Feb 02 15:55:35 <mjr_>	yes, true
Feb 02 15:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10821 @ 0.00066715 = 7.2192 BTC [-]
Feb 02 15:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 279 @ 0.00066565 = 0.1857 BTC [-]
Feb 02 15:55:44 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't get that last q.
Feb 02 15:56:17 <mjr_>	well that is what i love about this community, very grass roots
Feb 02 15:56:21 <mjr_>	bottom up planning
Feb 02 15:56:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2735 @ 0.00067229 = 1.8387 BTC [+]
Feb 02 15:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15 @ 0.00067504 = 0.0101 BTC [+]
Feb 02 15:56:51 <mircea_popescu>	smickles http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17rjzk/mpex_this_is_what_we_mean_by_bitcoin_will/c887zpp
Feb 02 15:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	thats some prime hatin' right there :D
Feb 02 15:57:31 <mjr_>	ah i had one other question/issue that i wanted to throw out here
Feb 02 15:57:43 <mjr_>	in instances like takin a cab or paying for fast food
Feb 02 15:57:54 <mjr_>	one to ten minutes for approval is not feasible...
Feb 02 15:58:11 <mjr_>	and obviously maybe it can't be applied to everything
Feb 02 15:58:20 <mjr_>	but is there any discussion on that subject?
Feb 02 15:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3294 @ 0.00067505 = 2.2236 BTC [+]
Feb 02 15:58:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4306 @ 0.00067504 = 2.9067 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 16:02:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1406 @ 0.00067505 = 0.9491 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:02:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6548 @ 0.00067516 = 4.4209 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:02:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00067653 = 2.1311 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:02:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1596 @ 0.00067746 = 1.0812 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ yes. it mostly consists of my pr pointing out it doesn't work and people glazingvoer.
Feb 02 16:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134024.msg1493309#msg1493309
Feb 02 16:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	most recent example
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Feb 02 16:06:27 <smickles>	< mjr_> in instances like takin a cab or paying for fast food << in situations like that, some feel it is save enough to accept 0 confirmations
Feb 02 16:07:05 <smickles>	also, there is one of those 'advanced' features you mentioned earler to solve this
Feb 02 16:07:30 <jurov>	smickles, not really. that would be akin to city transportation not giving a fuck about security of chip cards
Feb 02 16:07:36 <mjr_>	thanks smickles, i thought that was a very nice response
Feb 02 16:08:06 <smickles>	basically, you can create at tx which is for a significant amount (say 10 btc), but only gets approved in small in small bits, (say .1 btc)
Feb 02 16:08:21 <mjr_>	and good link mirceau
Feb 02 16:08:28 <mjr_>	i think that is also very true
Feb 02 16:08:33 <JohnGalt49ers>	you don't need to rely on confirmations when your coins are stored at an exchange
Feb 02 16:08:36 <smickles>	there are a lot of details, but you can safely accept the small bit part without any confirmation at all
Feb 02 16:08:48 <smickles>	even unbroadcasted (less than 0 confirms)
Feb 02 16:08:56 <mjr_>	cool
Feb 02 16:09:21 <smickles>	it's only been done as 'proof of work', so far as i know tho
Feb 02 16:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> smickles, not really. that would be akin to city transportation not giving a fuck about security of chip cards << which they don't.
Feb 02 16:09:37 <JohnGalt49ers>	bitcoin can change ownership without transactions within the blockchain
Feb 02 16:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	course the hidden thing in all of this is that if mpex scales worth a shit everyone can just do push transactions.
Feb 02 16:10:25 <smickles>	JohnGalt49ers: like via private key transfer? (what I was talking about is more complicated, and a lot more secure than that. I'll see if i can find the link)
Feb 02 16:10:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00067162 = 8.2609 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:11:15 <jurov>	with badly done 0-confirmations we'll inevitably end up in credit card territory - everyone will pay for the fraud
Feb 02 16:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17rae6/satoshi_dice_has_almost_tripled_since_its_ipo/ ahaha this is sweet.
Feb 02 16:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	owner is an asshole!!1
Feb 02 16:12:23 <JohnGalt49ers>	you have a nice reputation ;)
Feb 02 16:12:30 <gesell>	anyone got issues getting to google?
Feb 02 16:12:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00733364 = 4.4002 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny tho, why am i an asshole
Feb 02 16:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	people get so wrapped up in their own mind
Feb 02 16:14:09 <jurov>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17rjzk/mpex_this_is_what_we_mean_by_bitcoin_will/ also gets some lulz
Feb 02 16:14:26 <smickles>	i think this is what i was talking about https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Contracts#Example_7:_Rapidly-adjusted_.28micro.29payments_to_a_pre-determined_party
Feb 02 16:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	"the "shares" that MPEx has that it lets you buy and then sell ... how did they get them, and what exactly are these shares?"
Feb 02 16:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	heavily philosophical too
Feb 02 16:15:16 <smickles>	lolwut?
Feb 02 16:15:17 <JohnGalt49ers>	yeah that's more sophisticated then what I had in mind
Feb 02 16:15:41 <gesell>	explain to them that gpg, command line foo and mpex design should be percieved like the days when the internet filled up with idiots... we'd still stick to vms to have some peace of mind from it all
Feb 02 16:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	"o noes, but nobody can get on mpex!1"
Feb 02 16:16:14 <mod6>	oh gno!
Feb 02 16:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	im on the other side of it, trying to hold the doors down lol
Feb 02 16:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	nobody can get into mpex to the tune of 10 ppl a day or some shit
Feb 02 16:17:00 <maximian>	"oh my god, MPEx is the geekiest stock exchange I've ever seen. you have to send commands via command line? no web interface?" << this is actually what attracted me to mpex!
Feb 02 16:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	maximian i think a few people
Feb 02 16:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	anyway if mod6 evergets the iphone app out that'll be funny
Feb 02 16:17:40 <mod6>	:D
Feb 02 16:17:52 <smickles>	hmm, i don't recall that article being much about race
Feb 02 16:18:02 <mircea_popescu>	dude if you don't launch soon ima start sending escorts to your door at like 2am
Feb 02 16:18:03 <mod6>	iphone app someday, android version soon
Feb 02 16:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	topless
Feb 02 16:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	and drunk.
Feb 02 16:18:09 <mod6>	haha
Feb 02 16:18:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066569 = 2.8764 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3421 @ 0.00066565 = 2.2772 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:18:16 <mod6>	that might help
Feb 02 16:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i think racist is what pinkos call people who call them pinkos
Feb 02 16:18:44 <mod6>	one thing im gonna work on today is wrapping up json stat stuff.  but then i gotta get that encryption stuff wrapped up.
Feb 02 16:19:13 <mod6>	next version -- might be using bccapi maybe.
Feb 02 16:19:18 <mod6>	we'll see what works
Feb 02 16:19:21 <pizzaman1337>	mod6: iphone app for what?
Feb 02 16:19:30 <mod6>	its for MPEx
Feb 02 16:19:41 <pizzaman1337>	oh, nice
Feb 02 16:19:44 *	mircea_popescu just realised he's such an old man, confuses iphone and android liberally.
Feb 02 16:19:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1277 @ 0.00733364 = 9.3651 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2231 @ 0.007395 = 16.4982 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:19:59 <mod6>	i have a ton of work done already for an Android version.  its called BitOTTer... http://www.bitotter.com
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Feb 02 16:20:46 <mod6>	but.. its kinda rough with some of the encryption stuff - and making sure someones private key is secure is a challenge.
Feb 02 16:21:15 <mod6>	which leads me to mircea_popescu's thing that he posted on trilema about the eyescan2pgpkeys
Feb 02 16:21:15 <pizzaman1337>	encrypt it?
Feb 02 16:21:23 <mod6>	pretty l33t there, verdad?
Feb 02 16:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	innit!
Feb 02 16:22:09 <mircea_popescu>	course asciilifeform is all no! you must use geiger counters!
Feb 02 16:22:11 <mod6>	pizzaman1337: yup, i've implemented a way... i started off trying to do some other ways, like a keystore, etc.. but that didn't work out.
Feb 02 16:22:49 <pizzaman1337>	mod6: just curious, how do you plan on monetizing that? (if at all)
Feb 02 16:23:22 <mod6>	ate up a bunch of time too, now the code reads in the private key, will ask the user for a passphrase to encrypt the private key with, then that will be used to decrypt when needed to read in the priavte key upon launch.  this will be a different passphrase that is used with the PGP private key itself, of course.
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Feb 02 16:23:25 <jurov>	why all the trouble? just use throwaway key. scan iris, pay 30 bucks, trade on teh mpex. problem solved.
Feb 02 16:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	3. Conclusions
Feb 02 16:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	Depending on BFL's shipping schedule, the network hashrate could be from ~ 120 Thps to ~ 290Thps, with Difficulty reaching between 15 and 40 million before mid May.
Feb 02 16:23:42 <mod6>	jurov: ;)
Feb 02 16:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	dudes sit around writing that shit on their blogs
Feb 02 16:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	but do they trade x.idiff ? no they don't.
Feb 02 16:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	sheesh.
Feb 02 16:24:13 <mod6>	pizzaman1337: it'll be availble through the MPEx affiliate program.
Feb 02 16:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ikr?
Feb 02 16:24:54 <jurov>	yes right
Feb 02 16:25:58 <smickles>	max diff at may's close is 220,868,234,397
Feb 02 16:26:11 <smickles>	or wait, what's the current diff
Feb 02 16:26:14 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Feb 02 16:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	3mn
Feb 02 16:26:16 <gribble>	2968775.3320751
Feb 02 16:26:43 <smickles>	194,561,660,163
Feb 02 16:26:47 <smickles>	that's the max
Feb 02 16:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.bitcoinasic.net/
Feb 02 16:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	whoa nelly!
Feb 02 16:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	the azns were canadians from iraq!
Feb 02 16:28:08 <mircea_popescu>	"We're Open
Feb 02 16:28:08 <mircea_popescu>	All of the firmware and software we develop for our devices are completely opensource."
Feb 02 16:28:18 <mircea_popescu>	no github link. completely open. brain fell out.
Feb 02 16:28:39 <smickles>	minimum diff is 2968775
Feb 02 16:29:23 <smickles>	lol, copypast fail
Feb 02 16:29:35 <smickles>	minumum diff is 45
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Feb 02 16:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00067162 = 4.7685 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 320 @ 0.00067229 = 0.2151 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:38:19 <mod6>	I've never quite understood why people feel so but hurt about the website.  I mean, its really just a formality.  It doesn't even need a website! lol
Feb 02 16:38:23 <mod6>	http://memegenerator.net/instance/34241156
Feb 02 16:38:57 <mod6>	haha, *butthurt
Feb 02 16:39:07 <mircea_popescu>	im seriously thinking of eventually taking the website off entirely.
Feb 02 16:39:32 <mod6>	I mean, it exists as a way for people to go, "Oh hey! It exists!"
Feb 02 16:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much
Feb 02 16:39:46 <mod6>	but, it is totally not required.
Feb 02 16:39:46 <mod6>	ya
Feb 02 16:39:48 <mod6>	:)
Feb 02 16:40:08 <jurov>	also that would fall nicely into the plan to tell noobs coinbr is all there is, mpex is the old version
Feb 02 16:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	course, since i was gonna have to pipe orders in somehow
Feb 02 16:40:10 <mircea_popescu>	and have a gateway
Feb 02 16:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	80 made the most sense
Feb 02 16:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	and if you're gonna have webserver up anyway...
Feb 02 16:40:23 <mircea_popescu>	might as well
Feb 02 16:40:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol jurov prepare for drama
Feb 02 16:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	this avalon thread is so full of win
Feb 02 16:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	even giga is trolling them
Feb 02 16:41:31 <mod6>	TROLL HARDER!
Feb 02 16:41:33 <mod6>	lol
Feb 02 16:41:34 <kakobrekla>	url
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Feb 02 16:41:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00067229 = 2.7564 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:41:57 <mod6>	oh and MOAR CAPZ too
Feb 02 16:42:00 <mod6>	JUST CUZ
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Feb 02 16:45:18 <maximian>	Just looking at the Jan s.dice statement. 1.2M BTC in handle is stunning… wow!
Feb 02 16:47:01 <maximian>	the whole thing is what, two guys and a server?
Feb 02 16:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	if that.
Feb 02 16:47:33 <mircea_popescu>	no but in seriousness, they're pretty smart guys, survived the recent doublespend attacks that wiped a few of the betting people
Feb 02 16:47:49 <maximian>	this should be evoorhee's full time job… he's going to be fabulously rich
Feb 02 16:48:04 <maximian>	yeah, bright and competent
Feb 02 16:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	it may become that, who knows.
Feb 02 16:49:45 <JohnGalt49ers>	I took 6k from him
Feb 02 16:50:00 <JohnGalt49ers>	$
Feb 02 16:50:14 <error4733>	please you'r welcome this month again
Feb 02 16:50:31 <mircea_popescu>	took as in, gambled ?
Feb 02 16:50:45 <JohnGalt49ers>	yes, 7 btc to 500 something
Feb 02 16:51:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 988 @ 0.0079 = 7.8052 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:51:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 12 @ 0.008 = 0.096 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	this is so weird...
Feb 02 16:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	pre-dividends, crickets.
Feb 02 16:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	dividends paid, people start buying
Feb 02 16:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	why not buy 6 hours earlier get divs too ?!
Feb 02 16:53:03 <JohnGalt49ers>	weird indeed
Feb 02 16:54:11 <maximian>	amateurs who don't get the whole dividends thing?
Feb 02 16:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	maybe yea
Feb 02 16:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	there were some reasonable blocks bought on mpex pre-divs
Feb 02 16:55:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.765 = 3.825 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:55:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.7567 = 6.8103 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:55:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.760001 = 7.6 BTC [+]
Feb 02 16:55:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.76 = 7.6 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:55:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 37 @ 0.7567519 = 27.9998 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:56:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7567 = 3.0268 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:58:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.7567 = 4.5402 BTC [-]
Feb 02 16:58:56 <evoorhees>	yeah I don't know why people would wait to buy until after the dividend lol
Feb 02 16:59:08 <evoorhees>	you're doing it wrong
Feb 02 16:59:40 <malaimo>	maybe to pick up some "cheap" shares from people who want out after the most recent dividend...
Feb 02 16:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	except nobody sold
Feb 02 16:59:59 <mircea_popescu>	i was expecting at least some unwind
Feb 02 17:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	but... crickets.
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Feb 02 17:04:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.7567 = 12.1072 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:06:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.7567 = 2.2701 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:06:15 <mjr_>	i think its awesome that you can buy shares literally right before the dividend and still get them
Feb 02 17:06:29 <mjr_>	especially if the market doesn't seem to want to price them in
Feb 02 17:07:16 <mjr_>	i see no reason not to just hold it, but you could just get in and out on dividend day]
Feb 02 17:07:33 <mod6>	I was going to add though, it is great to have a way to submit orders right through the textarea with the submit button.  I used to do a lot of orders by hand until I wrote the perl thingy.
Feb 02 17:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00067189 = 2.8891 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006658 = 2.8769 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7979 @ 0.00066565 = 5.3112 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:09:32 <mod6>	So that's an awesome way to do manual orders or do some testing.
Feb 02 17:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	this is true, yeah.
Feb 02 17:11:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1571 @ 0.00066565 = 1.0457 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.0006649 = 4.3551 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00066411 = 1.9452 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 17:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140700.msg1499150#msg1499150 << mpoe-pr is rubbing off on people!
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Feb 02 17:12:37 <mod6>	Even with BitOTTer, the users will have to know how to use PGP (gpg) tools to use it though. So learning this is still required.
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Feb 02 17:13:07 <mod6>	At minimum they'll have to export their private key from their keyring to an asciiarmored output, so that at least...
Feb 02 17:13:34 <mod6>	(that along with their public key)
Feb 02 17:14:16 <mod6>	those files will have to be copied onto the device in the manual way, and then they'll be able to be read in and secured, etc.
Feb 02 17:14:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7803 @ 0.00066411 = 5.1821 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:14:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4732 @ 0.00066316 = 3.1381 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:14:44 <mod6>	But still, people have this kneejerk reaction about PGP.  But I'm always like "But PGP is your friend!!"
Feb 02 17:17:58 <mjr_>	there was a great xkcd about that...
Feb 02 17:18:19 <mjr_>	about how maybe strong encryption should have been classified as a weapon so it'd be protected by the second amendment lol
Feb 02 17:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067219 = 2.9045 BTC [+]
Feb 02 17:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9829 @ 0.00067229 = 6.6079 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 17:20:24 <mod6>	http://xkcd.com/364/ << haha
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Feb 02 17:20:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]
Feb 02 17:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00729495 = 1.0942 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:20:56 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 02 17:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 271 @ 0.00729494 = 1.9769 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 813 @ 0.00724493 = 5.8901 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 205 @ 0.00724226 = 1.4847 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 623 @ 0.00720781 = 4.4905 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 707 @ 0.00720505 = 5.094 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:21:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 231 @ 0.00718281 = 1.6592 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:21:28 <mjr_>	wow
Feb 02 17:21:41 <mjr_>	cool stuff, was that a market order that took a few levels?
Feb 02 17:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Feb 02 17:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	ya by the looks of it
Feb 02 17:23:25 <mjr_>	ok maybe a silly question but i don't think it was in the faq (i'll double check) is there a way to see level II info for the stocks?
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Feb 02 17:24:07 <mjr_>	is the json feed the only way?
Feb 02 17:28:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 618 @ 0.00066316 = 0.4098 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2894 @ 0.00066215 = 1.9163 BTC [-]
Feb 02 17:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	well, seen live.coinbr.com ?
Feb 02 17:29:30 <mjr_>	i have not, i will take a look at it
Feb 02 17:30:05 <mjr_>	oh yeah i think i have been there but it never renders correctly
Feb 02 17:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	raw data is in the jsons/rss
Feb 02 17:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much everything else you have to make yourself
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Feb 02 17:32:18 <mjr_>	all good
Feb 02 17:32:37 <mjr_>	i think there is some image which doesn't load and it blocks the actual symbols
Feb 02 17:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	if you make something a buncha people like/use there may be a market for you in it
Feb 02 17:32:52 <mjr_>	good point
Feb 02 17:33:12 <mjr_>	i really like the layout and design of clarkmoody
Feb 02 17:33:21 <mjr_>	just wish it had more exchanges and mpex data
Feb 02 17:33:30 <jcpham>	once you go black...
Feb 02 17:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	why doesn't it have mpex data ?
Feb 02 17:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was pretty much user configured
Feb 02 17:34:17 <mjr_>	as far as i can see it just takes mt. gox
Feb 02 17:34:26 <mjr_>	and i have not seen any way to change those settings
Feb 02 17:35:27 <jurov>	mjr_, which browser?
Feb 02 17:35:33 <mjr_>	chrome
Feb 02 17:35:44 <mjr_>	is that not supported?
Feb 02 17:36:15 <jurov>	live.coinbr uses vanilla google charts ... can't believe google can't make its own shit work right
Feb 02 17:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah this is good
Feb 02 17:36:53 <jurov>	mjr_: try sending screenshot, i'll look what else it can be
Feb 02 17:37:18 <mjr_>	could be me, i just did inspect element and it pops up
Feb 02 17:37:28 <mjr_>	but if i close the inspect element, it doesn't load
Feb 02 17:37:42 <mjr_>	it's the chart that is not loading so it could be a problem with my handling of svg i guess
Feb 02 17:37:57 <jurov>	no js errors?
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Feb 02 17:40:54 <mjr_>	does not appear to be js related
Feb 02 17:41:02 <mjr_>	at least all the scripts seem to have loaded properly
Feb 02 17:41:20 <jurov>	dunno then
Feb 02 17:41:28 <mjr_>	yeah i have a sreenshot if you wanna see
Feb 02 17:41:40 <mjr_>	weirdly enough i can't right click on the area where the chart would be
Feb 02 17:41:53 <mjr_>	i have to do it in the tiny sliver at the top in order to get to inspect element
Feb 02 17:41:59 <mjr_>	i can try other web browsers if that would help
Feb 02 17:42:35 <jurov>	if on the screnshot is anything beyond [Back to CoinBr] [S.DICE] [S.BBET] Show trades for last:
Feb 02 17:42:42 <jurov>	then i'm interested
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Feb 02 17:43:32 <mjr_>	doesn't even show all of that, weirdly enough it works in IE so maybe issues on my end
Feb 02 17:43:39 <mjr_>	(surely issues on my end)
Feb 02 17:43:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00067229 = 2.8236 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 17:45:10 <jurov>	btw, i think i left there commented js code to read mpex rss feed... so if anyone wants an example
Feb 02 17:45:26 <mjr_>	thanks i will look into it
Feb 02 17:46:08 <mjr_>	one quick security question
Feb 02 17:46:27 <mjr_>	where do you hold the shares that you buy? are they in an account on mpex?
Feb 02 17:46:54 <jurov>	they have to be there, for online trading to be possible
Feb 02 17:47:01 <mjr_>	yes, ok
Feb 02 17:47:09 <mjr_>	i am planning on more of a buy and hold approach
Feb 02 17:47:38 <mjr_>	but i have no issues with shares on mpex or coinbr
Feb 02 17:48:00 <mjr_>	i was planning on a paper wallet that i could continue to pour coins into, but would not be connected to anything
Feb 02 17:48:24 <mjr_>	and was wondering if there was something similar for the shares etc
Feb 02 17:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.007395 = 12.5715 BTC [+]
Feb 02 17:48:28 <jurov>	there is none known way to take shares out of mpex and nto safe if that's what you mean
Feb 02 17:48:47 <mjr_>	yeah no big deal, it is the most secure i've seen really
Feb 02 17:48:54 <mjr_>	so probably better to leave them there
Feb 02 17:49:13 <mjr_>	but for the coins, i was thinking paper wallet in safe deposit box
Feb 02 17:49:24 <mjr_>	with some for buying and such
Feb 02 17:49:29 <mjr_>	in a separate wallet
Feb 02 17:50:26 <Bugpowder>	I think the shares are probably safer in MPs machine than in mine :-P
Feb 02 17:50:33 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 02 17:50:37 <mjr_>	i agree
Feb 02 17:51:14 <jurov>	well, there are tries to make p2p exchanges... but so far it looks they are not usable for anything near mpex volume/speed
Feb 02 17:51:31 <mjr_>	yeah, i realy like mpex
Feb 02 17:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	eventually mpex will be p2p too im pretty sure
Feb 02 17:51:36 <jurov>	and i personally wait for someone to aptly and comprehensively blog about them
Feb 02 17:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	but none of the current nonsense.
Feb 02 17:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i'd argue that making copies of the mpex_db is pretty safe.
Feb 02 17:52:50 <mircea_popescu>	in a paper wallet sort of way
Feb 02 17:53:43 <jurov>	"do you have the shares safely stored?" "yes, i have whole mpex database in cold storage"
Feb 02 17:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	something like that. better than paper wallet cause well... you can't read it
Feb 02 18:00:13 <mjr_>	really nice financials by the way
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Feb 02 18:08:05 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you realize that the webserver - trade engine is what a lot of banks are migrating to right?
Feb 02 18:08:36 <jurov>	thestringpuller, the core of his argument isn't this
Feb 02 18:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	for some values of "a lot".
Feb 02 18:09:18 <mircea_popescu>	"Learn how to avoid ripoffs - send $5."
Feb 02 18:09:51 <jurov>	it's about users identifying themselves and using any channel, possibly insecure to communicate with exchange
Feb 02 18:10:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.35 = 3.85 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.news-record.com/home/679910-63/mr-buffett-im-sorry << this is pretty good!
Feb 02 18:10:42 <jurov>	as opposed to providing byzantine infrastructure to create pipe to safely communicate
Feb 02 18:11:32 <mjr_>	well yeah, i think that is the more robust system
Feb 02 18:11:43 <mjr_>	to expect that people will try to steal the messages
Feb 02 18:11:50 <mjr_>	instead of trusting in infrastructure
Feb 02 18:12:13 <mjr_>	i feel like usually the central planning type of things assumes perfect implementation
Feb 02 18:12:20 <mjr_>	and plans accordingly
Feb 02 18:12:43 <mjr_>	and are shocked when things fail
Feb 02 18:13:25 <jurov>	it's ego thing, everyone wants to build something big that will outlast him
Feb 02 18:13:26 <thestringpuller>	For that reason last year a London bank processor went offline for 2 hours and 90% of the population were unable to make any withdrawals or deposits...
Feb 02 18:13:38 <jurov>	creating liability for descendants in turn
Feb 02 18:13:40 <mjr_>	yeah, or the facebook ipo with nasdaq
Feb 02 18:13:41 <thestringpuller>	Most banks are moving to a distributed system...
Feb 02 18:14:01 <thestringpuller>	well their processors at least
Feb 02 18:14:30 <mjr_>	in general, big complex systems are going to have cracks while small distributed systems CAN be easy to implement once, and then multiplied in a scalable way
Feb 02 18:14:46 <fancypants>	how does S.DICE and/or S.BBET decide when to pay dividend?  I can't seem to find it or determine any sort of a pattern from the history
Feb 02 18:15:35 <jurov>	on 1st they get roaring drunk then sleep and wake up , then start working on report
Feb 02 18:15:41 <jurov>	and then pay divs
Feb 02 18:15:49 <mjr_>	that what it looked like
Feb 02 18:16:01 <mjr_>	it seems to be within two days after issuing monthly report
Feb 02 18:17:03 <mjr_>	by the way...the al gore interview on the daily show was pretty interesting and they talked about high frequency
Feb 02 18:17:06 <jurov>	looks like cool thing to do... maybe i'll get public
Feb 02 18:17:47 <jurov>	just did a rough select how much coinbr made in january. my head spinned a bit. sadly, no lacohol around.
Feb 02 18:18:09 <mjr_>	i take it that's good news?
Feb 02 18:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	how much did it make ?
Feb 02 18:19:34 <kakobrekla>	more than bbet.
Feb 02 18:19:43 <kakobrekla>	;>
Feb 02 18:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 02 18:20:07 <thestringpuller>	mircea should demand fees from you for working on his turf
Feb 02 18:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	well... it's laso been running longer :D
Feb 02 18:20:20 <mjr_>	i believe that he does collect fees :)
Feb 02 18:20:23 <jurov>	he does
Feb 02 18:20:28 <mjr_>	there are fees on all trades
Feb 02 18:20:30 <thestringpuller>	directly from jurov though "I want 50%"
Feb 02 18:20:34 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 02 18:20:39 <thestringpuller>	"Or else something could happen..."
Feb 02 18:20:43 <thestringpuller>	Call it "insurance"
Feb 02 18:20:44 <mjr_>	ahhahaha
Feb 02 18:21:01 <thestringpuller>	maybe your key gets disabled...on accident
Feb 02 18:21:04 <mjr_>	i think that's what the registration is for
Feb 02 18:21:10 <jurov>	i'm just trying to check the number till i release it in the wild
Feb 02 18:21:22 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like make sure i keep mpex small. bludgeon successful people, something like that ?
Feb 02 18:21:44 <mjr_>	i really love the mpex model as is
Feb 02 18:21:48 <mjr_>	agorist
Feb 02 18:21:59 <mircea_popescu>	jurov well, over 1k ? over 10k ?
Feb 02 18:22:00 <jurov>	tada... bit over 38 BTC
Feb 02 18:22:07 <mircea_popescu>	o hey.
Feb 02 18:22:08 <jurov>	:D
Feb 02 18:22:10 <kakobrekla>	not bad
Feb 02 18:22:14 <mjr_>	very nice
Feb 02 18:22:17 <mircea_popescu>	it IS more than bbet
Feb 02 18:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	fuck this im nuking his acct.
Feb 02 18:22:27 <pizzaman1337>	lulz
Feb 02 18:22:27 <kakobrekla>	:DD
Feb 02 18:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe-pr should post in foerum "jurov's shares discarded as worthless!"
Feb 02 18:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	then jurov could whine
Feb 02 18:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	we could probably take over the forum for a day
Feb 02 18:23:12 <thestringpuller>	isn't that how business used to work?
Feb 02 18:23:20 <thestringpuller>	someone competes with you, you burn down their factory?
Feb 02 18:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	i think that's how business used to fail
Feb 02 18:23:55 <thestringpuller>	Rockefella's aren't complaining...
Feb 02 18:24:22 <jurov>	i'll enumerate all the mpex interface bugs in lengthy and entertaining post
Feb 02 18:24:30 <mjr_>	well, that is another thing i like about this economy and specifcally mpex...everyone is expected to be responsible for themselves
Feb 02 18:24:33 <jurov>	1e20 options
Feb 02 18:24:37 <jurov>	phantom orders
Feb 02 18:24:46 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Feb 02 18:24:46 <jurov>	empty statjsons
Feb 02 18:24:58 <jurov>	php/mysql error messages
Feb 02 18:25:15 <jurov>	you name it
Feb 02 18:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	i'll pay usagi to read Strategic Risk Management to you for a week straight.
Feb 02 18:25:47 <jurov>	oh and i forgot double credited deposits
Feb 02 18:26:01 <jurov>	that i kept, of course
Feb 02 18:26:20 <mircea_popescu>	i should have totally had roger ver on staff,
Feb 02 18:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	just for that.
Feb 02 18:26:45 <thestringpuller>	You guys would have a fight though after about 2 weeks.
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Feb 02 18:30:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov for the record, the vircures guy was listing it
Feb 02 18:30:04 <mircea_popescu>	11 btc profits
Feb 02 18:30:13 <jurov>	vircurex?
Feb 02 18:30:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13095 @ 0.00066269 = 8.6779 BTC [-]
Feb 02 18:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19955 @ 0.00066284 = 13.227 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Feb 02 18:32:15 <jurov>	oh, and *if* i go IPO
Feb 02 18:32:25 <thestringpuller>	coinbr should stay private
Feb 02 18:32:32 <jurov>	i'll do it on bitfunder. just from spite
Feb 02 18:32:39 <thestringpuller>	:D
Feb 02 18:32:51 <Namworld>	Why not BTCT.co
Feb 02 18:32:58 <Namworld>	I like BTCT.co
Feb 02 18:33:18 <mircea_popescu>	why do you spite ukto ?!
Feb 02 18:33:27 <Namworld>	I don't
Feb 02 18:33:35 <Namworld>	I just prefer BTCT.co first
Feb 02 18:33:51 <jurov>	i can operate btct and cryptostocks passthroughs
Feb 02 18:33:53 <Namworld>	actually, MPEx>BTCT.co>Bitfunder
Feb 02 18:33:57 <jurov>	heard passthroughs are cool
Feb 02 18:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1132 @ 0.00066284 = 0.7503 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4518 @ 0.00066466 = 3.0029 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:34:04 <Namworld>	cryptostock is a joke
Feb 02 18:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i didn't mean you. i meant him. list on there just out of spite
Feb 02 18:34:47 <Namworld>	oh
Feb 02 18:35:56 <jurov>	cause i can tyrannize ukto with special functionality requests
Feb 02 18:36:19 <jurov>	unlike MP
Feb 02 18:36:23 <thestringpuller>	tyrannize?
Feb 02 18:37:01 <jurov>	he had to add few things to bf for my assets to work
Feb 02 18:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5482 @ 0.00066466 = 3.6437 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00067028 = 2.6811 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:37:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10963 @ 0.00067229 = 7.3703 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:37:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00067294 = 4.7106 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:37:19 <gesell>	nice, twitter got hacked due to ruby on rails
Feb 02 18:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	ukto is basically a masochist, he's just looking for more things to implement
Feb 02 18:37:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00067481 = 1.2821 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:37:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.0006749 = 10.5622 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:37:32 <jurov>	lol
Feb 02 18:37:34 <gesell>	200k users compromised
Feb 02 18:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	when that guy from bitmillions ShaTwo was here, ukto was all "omg i was working on implementing that"
Feb 02 18:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	i think he's working on implementing a bitcoin-based c compiler too
Feb 02 18:37:54 <ShaTwo>	here
Feb 02 18:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	o hai.
Feb 02 18:38:43 <ShaTwo>	No, I am working in a Bitcoin Node in CoffeeScript
Feb 02 18:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	not you. ukto.
Feb 02 18:39:15 <ShaTwo>	Ahh.. ok
Feb 02 18:39:30 <ShaTwo>	Ruby and Rails is a very bad choise
Feb 02 18:39:47 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: a bitcoin-based c compiler?
Feb 02 18:39:55 <thestringpuller>	how does that work?
Feb 02 18:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, ror is about as bad an idea as java
Feb 02 18:40:20 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller now that i dunno.
Feb 02 18:40:29 <mircea_popescu>	merkle tree compiler objects or some shit
Feb 02 18:40:36 <thestringpuller>	...
Feb 02 18:40:39 <thestringpuller>	.....
Feb 02 18:40:41 <thestringpuller>	.......
Feb 02 18:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00067553 = 4.2221 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4504 @ 0.00067746 = 3.0513 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:41:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6696 @ 0.00067748 = 4.5364 BTC [+]
Feb 02 18:42:27 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 02 18:42:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.50002, Best ask: 19.64594, Bid-ask spread: 0.14592, Last trade: 19.50000, 24 hour volume: 80815.43101719, 24 hour low: 18.00000, 24 hour high: 20.60000, 24 hour vwap: 19.47478
Feb 02 18:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10924 @ 0.00067526 = 7.3765 BTC [-]
Feb 02 18:44:52 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: movin on up, to a deluxe apartment in the sky, finally got a piece of the pie
Feb 02 18:46:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1427 @ 0.00066215 = 0.9449 BTC [-]
Feb 02 18:46:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00066215 = 2.9797 BTC [-]
Feb 02 18:46:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13296 @ 0.00066214 = 8.8038 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 18:55:26 <smickles>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 02 18:55:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064676 / 0.00066678 / 0.00068038 (2261829 shares, 1,508.16 BTC), 7D: 0.00063335 / 0.00066174 / 0.0006921 (12850846 shares, 8,503.95 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065757 / 0.0007 (55193692 shares, 36,293.80 BTC)
Feb 02 19:01:52 <jurov>	smickles, teh script still not working?
Feb 02 19:02:36 <jurov>	no i take back, got it ;)
Feb 02 19:09:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.008 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Feb 02 19:10:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 233 @ 0.008 = 1.864 BTC [+]
Feb 02 19:11:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.8 = 8 BTC [+]
Feb 02 19:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 878 @ 0.00067153 = 0.5896 BTC [+]
Feb 02 19:18:39 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 02 19:18:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.007148 / 0.00737041 / 0.007395 (115802 shares, 853.51 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00732076 / 0.00749999 (596803 shares, 4,369.05 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00490917 / 0.0075 (6480913 shares, 31,815.93 BTC)
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Feb 02 19:18:42 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 02 19:18:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.75670000 / 0.78370988 / 0.88000000 (357 shares, 279.78442750 BTC), 7D: 0.56110000 / 0.74968829 / 0.89000000 (1487 shares, 1114.78649361 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.55886946 / 0.89000000 (6445 shares, 3601.91367845 BTC)
Feb 02 19:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc gsdpt sdice
Feb 02 19:18:50 <assbot>	[BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.0075 / 0.0079 / 0.008 (2807 shares, 22.2 BTC),  7D: 0.0069 / 0.01 / 0.008 (19655 shares, 147.9 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.01 / 0.008 (45197 shares, 289.8 BTC)
Feb 02 19:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.88000000 /  0.007395
Feb 02 19:19:28 <gribble>	118.999323867
Feb 02 19:19:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  0.78370988 / 0.00737041
Feb 02 19:19:38 <gribble>	106.331924547
Feb 02 19:20:44 <thestringpuller>	and they yell at me for tickering all the time :P
Feb 02 19:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1208 @ 0.00067748 = 0.8184 BTC [+]
Feb 02 19:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067834 = 2.9311 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 19:24:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067557 = 2.9191 BTC [-]
Feb 02 19:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.00067546 = 6.1325 BTC [-]
Feb 02 19:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	:p
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Feb 02 19:31:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067815 = 2.9303 BTC [+]
Feb 02 19:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6379 @ 0.0006783 = 4.3269 BTC [+]
Feb 02 19:31:36 <jurov>	Always drink upstream from the herd. You do not know what you are witnessing.
Feb 02 19:31:43 <jurov>	usagi gives investment advice
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Feb 02 19:34:22 <jurov>	;;calc 4321*0.00067557/1.002 + 4321*0.00067815
Feb 02 19:34:24 <gribble>	5.84359749731
Feb 02 19:34:41 <jurov>	;;calc -4321*0.00067557/1.002 + 4321*0.00067815
Feb 02 19:34:42 <gribble>	0.0169748026946
Feb 02 19:34:57 <jurov>	;;calc 4321*0.00067834 -4321*0.00067557/1.002
Feb 02 19:34:57 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Feb 02 19:35:06 <jurov>	;;calc 4321*0.00067834 - 4321*0.00067557/1.002
Feb 02 19:35:06 <gribble>	0.0177957926946
Feb 02 19:35:39 *	jurov milked the bots and can go sleep now
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Feb 02 19:50:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0081 = 0.0162 BTC [+]
Feb 02 19:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067816 = 2.9303 BTC [-]
Feb 02 19:53:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8129 @ 0.0006783 = 5.5139 BTC [+]
Feb 02 19:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1560 @ 0.007395 = 11.5362 BTC [+]
Feb 02 19:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00718283 = 7.1828 BTC [-]
Feb 02 19:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00718282 = 14.3656 BTC [-]
Feb 02 19:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 469 @ 0.00718281 = 3.3687 BTC [-]
Feb 02 19:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 731 @ 0.00717985 = 5.2485 BTC [-]
Feb 02 20:00:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Feb 02 20:01:10 <JohnGalt49ers>	plz but max bet of 64000x back to 0.1 nearly had a heart attack
Feb 02 20:01:29 <JohnGalt49ers>	put
Feb 02 20:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00067619 = 1.2171 BTC [-]
Feb 02 20:11:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.0006783 = 7.0204 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 20:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 805 @ 0.00067346 = 0.5421 BTC [-]
Feb 02 20:20:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6506 @ 0.00067345 = 4.3815 BTC [-]
Feb 02 20:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5339 @ 0.0006725 = 3.5905 BTC [-]
Feb 02 20:23:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006727 = 2.9067 BTC [+]
Feb 02 20:23:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7083 @ 0.0006725 = 4.7633 BTC [-]
Feb 02 20:23:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2696 @ 0.0006718 = 1.8112 BTC [-]
Feb 02 20:25:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 537 @ 0.007395 = 3.9711 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 20:31:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142 @ 0.0006783 = 0.0963 BTC [+]
Feb 02 20:31:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067834 = 2.9311 BTC [+]
Feb 02 20:31:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8537 @ 0.00067835 = 5.7911 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 20:32:30 <Bugpowder_>	;;ticker
Feb 02 20:32:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.01825, Best ask: 20.02025, Bid-ask spread: 0.00200, Last trade: 20.01825, 24 hour volume: 80214.60521310, 24 hour low: 18.00000, 24 hour high: 20.50000, 24 hour vwap: 19.43639
Feb 02 20:32:31 <mjr_>	hey all
Feb 02 20:32:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 61 @ 0.0081 = 0.4941 BTC [+]
Feb 02 20:33:11 <Bugpowder_>	wow... hit 20.20
Feb 02 20:33:14 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> and they yell at me for tickering all the time :P <<< makes me wonder if MP paid off the ticker nazis
Feb 02 20:34:20 <Bugpowder_>	Surprising to see a 10,000 BTC buy go thru in the middle of the weekend
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Feb 02 20:34:57 <smickles>	do you keep track of that sort of thing?
Feb 02 20:35:02 <Bugpowder_>	not really
Feb 02 20:35:17 <Bugpowder_>	But mondays are usually the rally days
Feb 02 20:35:21 <Bugpowder_>	or Sunday night
Feb 02 20:35:28 <Bugpowder_>	Monday JP time
Feb 02 20:35:40 <Bugpowder_>	just gotta make it thru the weekend
Feb 02 20:35:52 <Bugpowder_>	and hopefully the price will take off again.
Feb 02 20:35:56 <mjr_>	no no no
Feb 02 20:36:05 <mjr_>	i hope it waits till like wed or so
Feb 02 20:36:06 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 02 20:36:10 <mjr_>	i need time for banks to clear
Feb 02 20:36:11 <mjr_>	hahaha
Feb 02 20:36:35 <smickles>	heh, buy a whole lotta puts on margin
Feb 02 20:36:43 <smickles>	maybe that'll supress it
Feb 02 20:37:06 <mjr_>	i doubt i could suppress this, and i would rather not make a losing bet lol
Feb 02 20:37:20 <mjr_>	rather get calls at 20 i think
Feb 02 20:37:33 <mjr_>	maybe 21...
Feb 02 20:38:04 <Bugpowder_>	well I'm selling some
Feb 02 20:38:22 <Bugpowder_>	I have a bit too much exposure at the moment
Feb 02 20:38:47 <smickles>	;;calc -21/(.17662608-1)
Feb 02 20:38:48 <gribble>	25.5048156007
Feb 02 20:39:22 <smickles>	.17662608 is probably what I would be selling at if I didn't have a crapload of C180T in stock
Feb 02 20:41:00 <smickles>	'in stock' i say, as if i were selling those now
Feb 02 20:41:15 <Bugpowder_>	I need like 10,000 BTC
Feb 02 20:41:16 <smickles>	(well, i am selling one ;)
Feb 02 20:41:19 <Bugpowder_>	to really compete
Feb 02 20:41:24 <mjr_>	hmmm what was the dividend on sdice per share?
Feb 02 20:41:41 <Bugpowder_>	.0002
Feb 02 20:41:46 <mjr_>	thx
Feb 02 20:42:04 <mjr_>	is the float 10 million shares?
Feb 02 20:42:32 <smickles>	100mil made, 10mil sold
Feb 02 20:42:47 <smickles>	;;calc 10000000*.0032
Feb 02 20:42:48 <gribble>	32000
Feb 02 20:43:29 <mjr_>	where did .0032 come from?
Feb 02 20:43:45 <smickles>	that was the first ipo 'traunch'
Feb 02 20:43:47 <Bugpowder_>	ipo
Feb 02 20:43:55 <mjr_>	ah yes
Feb 02 20:43:56 <smickles>	however you spell it :P
Feb 02 20:44:06 <Bugpowder_>	more like 34000 average
Feb 02 20:44:21 <smickles>	ah, true
Feb 02 20:44:25 <Bugpowder_>	should be enough to buy a lawyer :-P
Feb 02 20:44:29 <mjr_>	still those returns are amazing
Feb 02 20:44:32 <smickles>	what was it, 2,5,3?
Feb 02 20:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 85 @ 0.007395 = 0.6286 BTC [+]
Feb 02 20:44:48 <Bugpowder_>	yes
Feb 02 20:45:03 <mjr_>	2.7% monthly dividend is...
Feb 02 20:45:14 <mjr_>	;;calc .027 * 12
Feb 02 20:45:15 <gribble>	0.324
Feb 02 20:45:24 <mjr_>	yeah, nice
Feb 02 20:45:29 <smickles>	.00345 average
Feb 02 20:45:36 <mjr_>	with no growth at todays price
Feb 02 20:46:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4996 @ 0.00067225 = 3.3586 BTC [-]
Feb 02 20:46:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067204 = 2.9039 BTC [-]
Feb 02 20:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6383 @ 0.0006718 = 4.2881 BTC [-]
Feb 02 20:47:27 *	Ukerz floats smickles 
Feb 02 20:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067814 = 2.9302 BTC [+]
Feb 02 20:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00067835 = 4.395 BTC [+]
Feb 02 20:47:34 <mjr_>	i can't find an mpoe spreadsheet...
Feb 02 20:48:15 <smickles>	Ukerz: heh, interested in a profit share of soebot?
Feb 02 20:48:19 <mjr_>	and i am curious as to the dividend, is mp's shares part of the float or not issued? ie. do they take part in the dividend...i'm guessing he owns them personally, right?
Feb 02 20:49:09 <smickles>	iirc, all shares get a dividend, it's not like there are treasury shares
Feb 02 20:49:16 <Bugpowder_>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/category/mpex/
Feb 02 20:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1913 @ 0.00067835 = 1.2977 BTC [+]
Feb 02 20:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2787 @ 0.00067899 = 1.8923 BTC [+]
Feb 02 20:52:02 <mjr_>	it looked like yield was .7% for the month...is my math right? (am i in the right ballpark?)
Feb 02 20:52:12 <mjr_>	again at current ask
Feb 02 20:52:57 <Bugpowder_>	;;calc 2531/500000000/.00065
Feb 02 20:52:57 <gribble>	0.00778769230769
Feb 02 20:53:02 <Bugpowder_>	yes
Feb 02 20:53:10 <mjr_>	thanks just checking
Feb 02 20:53:54 <mjr_>	still almost 10% yearly with no growth...
Feb 02 20:54:08 <mjr_>	just making conservative estimates
Feb 02 20:54:13 <mjr_>	and drooling a lot
Feb 02 20:55:07 <mjr_>	you can put together a heck of a portfolio without even expecting appreciation on the underlying asset
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Feb 02 20:59:11 <Bugpowder_>	I think the IPO was around 0.0001
Feb 02 21:00:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0081 = 0.081 BTC [+]
Feb 02 21:01:12 <mjr_>	what is bitvps?
Feb 02 21:01:17 <mjr_>	and are they still active?
Feb 02 21:03:01 <Bugpowder_>	talk to Namworld
Feb 02 21:03:47 <Bowjov>	so bugpwder i got screwed by avalon
Feb 02 21:04:00 <Bugpowder_>	how
Feb 02 21:04:12 <pigeons>	#bitvps for bitvps
Feb 02 21:04:29 <Bowjov>	stayed up all night aiming for the first 50 spot, furiously F5ing
Feb 02 21:04:40 <Bowjov>	then they cant even set up a purchase form properly
Feb 02 21:04:53 <Bowjov>	tried for 2 hours, my head hurt
Feb 02 21:05:05 <Bugpowder_>	like buying tickets for burning man
Feb 02 21:05:25 <Bowjov>	yeah, im throwing money at the wind.. and they wont even catch it. phai
Feb 02 21:05:26 <Bowjov>	l
Feb 02 21:06:02 <mjr_>	how many total were supposed to be released?
Feb 02 21:06:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Feb 02 21:06:44 <Bowjov>	600
Feb 02 21:06:50 <Bowjov>	+ upgrade paths
Feb 02 21:08:37 <Namworld>	mjr: we'll be delisted soon and moving to BTCT.co
Feb 02 21:08:47 <Namworld>	yes, still active
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Feb 02 21:15:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.007395 = 0.4437 BTC [+]
Feb 02 21:16:00 <mjr_>	cool just curious
Feb 02 21:16:07 <mjr_>	i really like the vps idea
Feb 02 21:16:24 <mjr_>	but was curious as to how you set prices given the volatility
Feb 02 21:17:22 <mjr_>	ie. do they dynamically update at all? I mean, I would rather keep brc...but the electric company prob won't accept them yet afaik
Feb 02 21:17:37 <mjr_>	only meant as example
Feb 02 21:17:43 <Diablo-D3>	[09:08:36] <Namworld> mjr: we'll be delisted soon and moving to BTCT.co
Feb 02 21:17:45 <Diablo-D3>	who will?
Feb 02 21:17:58 <mjr_>	bitvps...
Feb 02 21:18:01 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Feb 02 21:18:23 <Namworld>	Price is fixed in USD
Feb 02 21:18:26 <leotreasure>	i too stayed up for an hour trying to preorder but fail
Feb 02 21:18:34 <Namworld>	and converted to BTC for payment using latest price
Feb 02 21:22:13 <mjr_>	cool
Feb 02 21:24:05 <Graet>	lol now bitcointalk is down
Feb 02 21:24:59 <pigeons>	https://cryptostocks.com/securities/34
Feb 02 21:25:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.0079 = 2.37 BTC [-]
Feb 02 21:26:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0078 = 0.78 BTC [-]
Feb 02 21:27:55 <Namworld>	Anyone selling some DMC?
Feb 02 21:28:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00067273 = 3.7673 BTC [-]
Feb 02 21:28:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067204 = 2.9039 BTC [-]
Feb 02 21:28:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8186 @ 0.0006718 = 5.4994 BTC [-]
Feb 02 21:28:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2343 @ 0.0006699 = 1.5696 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 21:29:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006702 = 2.8959 BTC [+]
Feb 02 21:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12307 @ 0.0006699 = 8.2445 BTC [-]
Feb 02 21:30:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4172 @ 0.00066856 = 2.7892 BTC [-]
Feb 02 21:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1534 @ 0.00067711 = 1.0387 BTC [+]
Feb 02 21:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8644 @ 0.0006774 = 5.8554 BTC [+]
Feb 02 21:38:49 <Namworld>	I guess no one is
Feb 02 21:41:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2506 @ 0.0006774 = 1.6976 BTC [+]
Feb 02 21:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2094 @ 0.00067899 = 1.4218 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 21:46:48 <mjr_>	mirceau_popescu: how did you come up with your protocol for trading? not so much the gpg aspect, but rather the form of the orders (curious why not use FIX or established standard)
Feb 02 21:47:47 <mjr_>	i think it's a really cool format and a LOT easier to use than FIX, but i'm just curious if you think it has enough "fields" for future features (if any are intended, i am just curiuos)
Feb 02 21:51:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4728 @ 0.00066856 = 3.161 BTC [-]
Feb 02 21:52:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066565 = 2.8763 BTC [-]
Feb 02 21:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9687 @ 0.00066564 = 6.4481 BTC [-]
Feb 02 21:54:06 <pigeons>	how did he come up with BUY|ID|amount|price ???
Feb 02 21:54:26 <mjr_>	that is not the only command
Feb 02 21:54:31 <mjr_>	there are quite a few
Feb 02 21:54:58 <mjr_>	and i am just interested in what his ideas were
Feb 02 21:55:01 <mjr_>	mostly
Feb 02 21:55:30 <mjr_>	for example...you cannot send an IOC order...which some might like
Feb 02 21:55:38 <mjr_>	but maybe he doesn't want that order type
Feb 02 21:55:49 <mjr_>	that is what i am curious about
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Feb 02 21:56:12 <thestringpuller>	mjr_: or FOK?
Feb 02 21:56:22 <mjr_>	or specifically relating to IPO issues...
Feb 02 21:56:27 <mjr_>	yeah exactly
Feb 02 21:56:29 <pigeons>	we'll never know the divine inspiration that brought us STAT
Feb 02 21:56:37 <mjr_>	well, no harm in asking lol
Feb 02 21:56:50 <thestringpuller>	STAT is the weirdest command ever
Feb 02 21:57:09 <mjr_>	isn't it just based on the unix command?
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Feb 02 21:57:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Feb 02 21:58:01 <thestringpuller>	is it?
Feb 02 21:58:02 <thestringpuller>	lol
Feb 02 21:58:05 <thestringpuller>	man stat
Feb 02 21:58:06 <mjr_>	mostly i am curious about what would go on in the future...i think it's an amazing system, i am just wondering what new features if any we may expect
Feb 02 21:58:20 <thestringpuller>	none because mircea is lazy
Feb 02 21:58:33 <mjr_>	well, if this is what he can do by being lazy...kudos
Feb 02 21:58:41 <pigeons>	mjr_: are you high?
Feb 02 21:58:41 <mjr_>	i haven't achieved nearly as much
Feb 02 21:58:44 <mjr_>	no
Feb 02 21:59:24 <mjr_>	just very curious, in many ways this is the ideal way to study real financial markets...
Feb 02 21:59:42 <mjr_>	the underlying principals are the same, so by looking at other implementations, it sheds light on why things are done a certain way
Feb 02 22:00:00 <mjr_>	for example...maybe someday in the future they may want to do cross exchange listings
Feb 02 22:00:18 <mjr_>	or liquidity flags
Feb 02 22:00:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 36 @ 0.0082 = 0.2952 BTC [+]
Feb 02 22:00:35 <thestringpuller>	exchanges are like highlander
Feb 02 22:00:37 <thestringpuller>	there can be only 1
Feb 02 22:00:40 <thestringpuller>	in the end
Feb 02 22:00:46 <mjr_>	nasdaq may disagree
Feb 02 22:01:19 <mjr_>	and that is just in nyc
Feb 02 22:01:31 <mjr_>	what about tokyo, london, chicago...the list goes on
Feb 02 22:01:47 <thestringpuller>	XD
Feb 02 22:01:51 <thestringpuller>	I was just kidding
Feb 02 22:01:54 <mjr_>	oh lol
Feb 02 22:02:24 <mjr_>	i mean, right now it is pretty easy to just track four stocks...but what if one day there are hundreds (i hope)
Feb 02 22:03:04 <pigeons>	big fan here
Feb 02 22:03:18 <thestringpuller>	pigeons tell me more about pigeons
Feb 02 22:03:18 <mjr_>	i guess what i am trying to say is that it is easier to see why certain things are put into place on wall street when you see a smaller version
Feb 02 22:03:34 <thestringpuller>	or if you were alive in 1973...
Feb 02 22:03:41 <mjr_>	an easy example would be stop orders...
Feb 02 22:04:14 <pigeons>	no i was not alive in 1973
Feb 02 22:04:29 <mjr_>	what happened in 73?
Feb 02 22:05:19 <mjr_>	also do you guys ever get random deposits that you don't know where they came from?
Feb 02 22:05:33 <smickles>	stop orders? that's just a simple script
Feb 02 22:06:03 <mjr_>	ah you mean institute different order types on the client side...that is a cool idea
Feb 02 22:06:07 <smickles>	random deposits, yeah, that happened once at least so far
Feb 02 22:06:24 <smickles>	ask wences
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Feb 02 22:06:53 <smickles>	wences requested to make a deposit to mpex,
Feb 02 22:07:16 <smickles>	mpex responds with the standard, 'send EXACTLY XX.XXXXXXXX to the addy'
Feb 02 22:07:20 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 02 22:07:24 <smickles>	wences sent XX
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Feb 02 22:07:35 <mjr_>	lol, and it got distributed to shareholders...
Feb 02 22:07:52 <pigeons>	no
Feb 02 22:07:53 <smickles>	from mp's perspective it was just a random receipt at the addy
Feb 02 22:08:05 <smickles>	it would've been
Feb 02 22:08:07 <mjr_>	oh, i thought he mentioned that in the faq
Feb 02 22:08:17 <smickles>	that's why that line is there in bold now
Feb 02 22:08:22 <smickles>	wences
Feb 02 22:08:28 <pigeons>	he wanted to use it to promote his dispute resolution service, the "rota"
Feb 02 22:08:30 <mjr_>	ah, there is always a reason for any warnings right
Feb 02 22:08:45 <mjr_>	i saw that a couple of times
Feb 02 22:08:49 <mjr_>	but didn't know what it was
Feb 02 22:08:55 <pigeons>	so when wences asked to be credited MP told wences to sue him in his own court
Feb 02 22:09:16 <mjr_>	that is pretty cool, (i assume he found for the plaintiff)
Feb 02 22:09:29 <pigeons>	wences signed a message with the address that sent the coins and provided the exact amount from the encrypted deposit response
Feb 02 22:09:30 <smickles>	he didn't find anything
Feb 02 22:09:52 <mjr_>	ok, sorry continue the story please
Feb 02 22:09:55 <smickles>	the three judges made the judgement ;)
Feb 02 22:10:11 <mjr_>	who were the judges?
Feb 02 22:10:12 <pigeons>	me & jcpham found wences gets the 130 btc and his 10 btc fees refunded, MP, losing 10 btc in fees, cried
Feb 02 22:10:27 <Diablo-D3>	so wait
Feb 02 22:10:32 <Diablo-D3>	we have a bitcoin court now?
Feb 02 22:10:36 <pigeons>	mp rated me negatively for it, now removed it and declered the rota dead
Feb 02 22:10:46 <smickles>	yeah Diablo-D3, you missed that?
Feb 02 22:10:52 <pigeons>	we've had #bitcoin-court for a long time, longer than this channel, and it works often
Feb 02 22:10:53 <Diablo-D3>	can I sue avalon?
Feb 02 22:11:01 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 02 22:11:12 <smickles>	-court is wild tho
Feb 02 22:11:23 <pigeons>	well, stamit is nuts
Feb 02 22:11:27 <mjr_>	awesome, i am gonna check it out right now
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Feb 02 22:11:43 <mjr_>	cool
Feb 02 22:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2324 @ 0.00067087 = 1.5591 BTC [+]
Feb 02 22:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2227 @ 0.00067899 = 1.5121 BTC [+]
Feb 02 22:13:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00067912 = 9.6435 BTC [+]
Feb 02 22:13:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00067934 = 7.8124 BTC [+]
Feb 02 22:13:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10399 @ 0.00067953 = 7.0664 BTC [+]
Feb 02 22:16:01 <mjr_>	+ means buy order right? - means sell?
Feb 02 22:16:11 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Feb 02 22:16:47 <mjr_>	man, market orders on mpex are kinda wild
Feb 02 22:18:30 <mjr_>	eh actually not too bad, just not used to so many decimals
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Feb 02 22:20:04 <smickles>	actually not quite
Feb 02 22:20:48 <smickles>	+ means that this price was higher then the last
Feb 02 22:20:55 <mjr_>	oh ok thanks
Feb 02 22:20:57 <smickles>	so it's possible to have buys come as -
Feb 02 22:21:04 <mjr_>	oh i see
Feb 02 22:21:05 <smickles>	and sells come as +
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Feb 02 22:21:47 <smickles>	if you scroll back about an hour, there is an example of this
Feb 02 22:21:49 <mjr_>	that was like 40,000 shares right
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Feb 02 22:22:06 <mjr_>	and it moved the price up 1.2%
Feb 02 22:22:13 <smickles>	somewhere around there, yeah
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Feb 02 22:24:15 <mjr_>	i see the value of weighted average now
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Feb 02 22:24:26 <mjr_>	bid ask is not really going to help you here
Feb 02 22:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066995 = 2.8949 BTC [-]
Feb 02 22:24:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7578 @ 0.0006696 = 5.0742 BTC [-]
Feb 02 22:24:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11001 @ 0.00066564 = 7.3227 BTC [-]
Feb 02 22:24:57 <smickles>	you sound like a clever chap
Feb 02 22:25:22 <mjr_>	well, just trying to learn all i can
Feb 02 22:25:53 <smickles>	just be prepared to get lashed out at if you are right too often
Feb 02 22:26:04 <smickles>	people will start calling you an asshole
Feb 02 22:26:13 <mjr_>	hahahaha
Feb 02 22:27:12 <mjr_>	its the internet, i'm used to it
Feb 02 22:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067934 = 2.9354 BTC [+]
Feb 02 22:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067952 = 2.9362 BTC [+]
Feb 02 22:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1558 @ 0.00067953 = 1.0587 BTC [+]
Feb 02 22:29:22 <mjr_>	too bad bugpowder isn't here right now
Feb 02 22:29:34 <mjr_>	i had an interesting thought since he is always into arb stuff
Feb 02 22:29:38 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you must be british
Feb 02 22:30:12 <smickles>	you accused me of this same tomfoolery before, ya' know?
Feb 02 22:30:18 <smickles>	;)
Feb 02 22:30:21 <thestringpuller>	now you sound murican
Feb 02 22:30:40 <smickles>	i'm not saying tits and beer often enough am i?
Feb 02 22:30:48 <thestringpuller>	:D
Feb 02 22:31:02 <smickles>	we have a quota in this country
Feb 02 22:32:01 <smickles>	so thestringpuller, have you said your requisite number of obama's yet today?
Feb 02 22:32:19 <thestringpuller>	he raised my taxes >:(
Feb 02 22:32:21 <thestringpuller>	and I didn't get a raise
Feb 02 22:32:40 <smickles>	heh, thanks for paying part of my wife's salary :D
Feb 02 22:32:56 <thestringpuller>	yay socialism
Feb 02 22:32:58 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Feb 02 22:33:02 <mjr_>	he took our jabs
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Feb 02 22:33:13 <smickles>	de duk 'er dur!
Feb 02 22:33:23 <thestringpuller>	I should just move to romania and run a mafia
Feb 02 22:33:53 <mjr_>	so, it is probably not feasible to arb on the currency...due to transaction fees unless you just fund a lot and leave it in there
Feb 02 22:34:01 <mjr_>	and just go back and forth
Feb 02 22:34:10 <mjr_>	but i think it could be possible on mpex
Feb 02 22:34:20 <mjr_>	market make...
Feb 02 22:34:43 <smickles>	it takes a lot of btc to do that
Feb 02 22:34:50 <mjr_>	right now there is almost a 1% difference between bid and ask, and i am pretty sure fee is .2%...
Feb 02 22:35:08 <mjr_>	i believe it is called "front running"
Feb 02 22:35:45 <mjr_>	and it seems like it would be retardly easy...since you can change the last decimal place by 1 jumping the line for almost no cost
Feb 02 22:36:32 <smickles>	I invite you to try. it should add to the health of the market
Feb 02 22:36:41 <mjr_>	but it's frowned upon (somewhat) on wall street
Feb 02 22:36:49 <mjr_>	but it would make it more efficient
Feb 02 22:37:12 <mjr_>	a bot that tries to have the best bid and best ask as long as greater than .5% spread
Feb 02 22:37:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00066988 = 2.9475 BTC [-]
Feb 02 22:37:37 <smickles>	a .5% spread on these options would be awesome
Feb 02 22:37:49 <mjr_>	i was only looking at mpoe
Feb 02 22:38:02 <smickles>	oh, damn
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Feb 02 22:38:19 <mjr_>	mpoe currently has a .97% spread
Feb 02 22:38:24 <smickles>	i hear there are a few very successful 'scalpers' on s.mpoe
Feb 02 22:38:40 <mjr_>	well, its my least favorite trading strategy
Feb 02 22:38:51 <smickles>	seems to be just a different term for what you describe
Feb 02 22:39:27 <mjr_>	yeah scalping is getting in and out for tiny amounts...front running is jumping the line, ie whatever order anyone places, you cancel and place yours in front
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Feb 02 22:39:52 <mjr_>	related
Feb 02 22:40:29 <mjr_>	i mean overall, i just want to be long sdice and mpoe, but while you have the position...you could generate a little more return
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Feb 02 22:46:31 <mjr_>	thats weird
Feb 02 22:46:44 <mjr_>	the spread on sdice is also exactly .97%
Feb 02 22:47:23 <smickles>	how about that
Feb 02 22:47:35 <smickles>	did someone beat you out of the gate?
Feb 02 22:47:37 <mjr_>	lol, i'm guessing there is already a bot on there doing this
Feb 02 22:47:39 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 02 22:48:02 <mjr_>	but there must only be one...or else you would think that they would compete till it was .2%
Feb 02 22:48:18 <mjr_>	or slightly above that
Feb 02 22:48:41 <smickles>	you don't think that instability would keep it wider?
Feb 02 22:48:58 <mjr_>	maybe...but you could always cancel and resend
Feb 02 22:49:03 <mjr_>	once the price adjusts
Feb 02 22:49:20 <mjr_>	not a lot of volume or volatility right now
Feb 02 22:49:45 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Feb 02 22:49:49 <gribble>	Time since last block: 6 minutes and 23 seconds
Feb 02 22:50:23 <mjr_>	also...if it is a bot and not just a coincidence...it is picking really weird prices
Feb 02 22:51:35 <mjr_>	lol, this put me on some crazy game theory tangent
Feb 02 22:52:44 <kakobrekla>	there, i updated bitbets backend
Feb 02 22:52:50 <kakobrekla>	now its 250x faster.
Feb 02 22:53:14 <mjr_>	wow nice
Feb 02 22:53:34 <mjr_>	do you use php as well?
Feb 02 22:53:43 <kakobrekla>	bb is php
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Feb 02 22:53:54 <mjr_>	cool
Feb 02 22:53:54 <kakobrekla>	at least mostly
Feb 02 22:53:59 <mjr_>	just curious
Feb 02 22:54:05 <kakobrekla>	some python in backend and js in front
Feb 02 22:54:13 <mjr_>	nice, i like python...
Feb 02 22:54:20 <mjr_>	but have really wanted to implement something in node.js
Feb 02 22:54:32 <mjr_>	something crazy and fun about backend javascript
Feb 02 22:54:45 <kakobrekla>	:)
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Feb 02 22:55:17 <mjr_>	i used django for a tool at work, only because i had already started with python
Feb 02 22:57:21 <Ukerz>	well
Feb 02 22:57:25 <Ukerz>	I blame kakobrekla  either way
Feb 02 22:57:27 <Ukerz>	:P
Feb 02 22:58:00 <Ukerz>	kako: BB is so simple. no reason to bother with anything other than php. (no offense. actually nice compliment heh)
Feb 02 22:59:09 <thestringpuller>	php is for n00bs
Feb 02 22:59:12 <thestringpuller>	like Zuckerberg
Feb 02 23:00:02 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 02 23:01:08 <kakobrekla>	it doesnt matter which lang it is
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Feb 02 23:06:10 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i'm sure you code in 8088 asm or pdp-8 asm
Feb 02 23:06:51 <smickles>	punchcards FTW
Feb 02 23:07:21 <thestringpuller>	I do!
Feb 02 23:07:23 <thestringpuller>	HOw did you know?
Feb 02 23:07:31 <thestringpuller>	smickles knows me so well
Feb 02 23:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00066988 = 3.5504 BTC [-]
Feb 02 23:07:43 <mjr_>	MASM :)
Feb 02 23:08:36 <smickles>	oh man, i just remembered corewars
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Feb 02 23:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10994 @ 0.00066829 = 7.3472 BTC [-]
Feb 02 23:11:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 606 @ 0.00067723 = 0.4104 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 23:21:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00067584 = 5.4743 BTC [-]
Feb 02 23:21:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3682 @ 0.00067707 = 2.493 BTC [+]
Feb 02 23:22:20 <aiball>	you think core wars could be played in the block chain?
Feb 02 23:23:41 <smickles>	i'm tempted to think it is possible
Feb 02 23:24:35 <aiball>	as an aspiring ai, that would be a nice way to pay the rent.
Feb 02 23:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066645 = 2.8797 BTC [-]
Feb 02 23:24:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2310 @ 0.00066644 = 1.5395 BTC [-]
Feb 02 23:26:53 <mjr_>	fun times :) i think i worked out the script to check for arb opportunities
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Feb 02 23:27:24 <mjr_>	Chilca: hey there
Feb 02 23:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 639 @ 0.00067707 = 0.4326 BTC [+]
Feb 02 23:28:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25994 @ 0.00067723 = 17.6039 BTC [+]
Feb 02 23:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8243 @ 0.00067953 = 5.6014 BTC [+]
Feb 02 23:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6240 @ 0.00068038 = 4.2456 BTC [+]
Feb 02 23:29:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00068074 = 5.7182 BTC [+]
Feb 02 23:29:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4084 @ 0.00068094 = 2.781 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 23:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1434 @ 0.00068094 = 0.9765 BTC [+]
Feb 02 23:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068106 = 2.9429 BTC [+]
Feb 02 23:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4141 @ 0.00068107 = 2.8203 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 23:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 243 @ 0.00714095 = 1.7353 BTC [-]
Feb 02 23:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1107 @ 0.00717985 = 7.9481 BTC [+]
Feb 02 23:46:12 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 02 23:46:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.88409, Best ask: 19.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01591, Last trade: 19.88396, 24 hour volume: 78914.73159118, 24 hour low: 18.00000, 24 hour high: 20.30000, 24 hour vwap: 19.41083
Feb 02 23:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066647 = 2.8798 BTC [-]
Feb 02 23:50:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9429 @ 0.00066644 = 6.2839 BTC [-]
Feb 02 23:50:52 <mjr_>	awesome
Feb 02 23:51:06 <mjr_>	the arb script is working and says S.DICE is good :)
Feb 02 23:51:42 <mjr_>	gonna touch it up a bit
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Feb 02 23:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00066703 = 19.0771 BTC [+]
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Feb 02 23:55:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 217 @ 0.0081 = 1.7577 BTC [-]
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Feb 02 23:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 757 @ 0.00714095 = 5.4057 BTC [-]
Feb 02 23:59:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 243 @ 0.00712168 = 1.7306 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 00:09:26 <thestringpuller>	carian
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Feb 03 00:20:04 <Ukerz>	hmm, anyone know if they passed that potential law in the US re: merchant providers? being limited to 1 at a time?
Feb 03 00:22:27 <aiball>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 03 00:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00712168 / 0.00736027 / 0.007395 (102159 shares, 751.92 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.0073185 / 0.00749999 (598403 shares, 4,379.41 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00492104 / 0.0075 (6443773 shares, 31,710.12 BTC)
Feb 03 00:25:20 <Namworld>	GSDPT is awfully overpriced
Feb 03 00:26:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00066703 = 2.0678 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 00:28:32 <Ukerz>	Namworld: : on bf or btct?
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Feb 03 00:28:49 <Ukerz>	I havent checked on them lately
Feb 03 00:29:21 <Ukerz>	BF looks to be the higher
Feb 03 00:29:26 <Ukerz>	not by much tho
Feb 03 00:29:33 <Ukerz>	good for sellers. lol
Feb 03 00:31:07 <Namworld>	For both
Feb 03 00:31:20 <Namworld>	Trading for like 10-20% premium
Feb 03 00:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066666 = 2.8806 BTC [-]
Feb 03 00:31:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5979 @ 0.00066644 = 3.9846 BTC [-]
Feb 03 00:31:42 <Ukerz>	premium due to the fact that they cant access the rates on mpex
Feb 03 00:31:43 <Ukerz>	or they would
Feb 03 00:31:44 <Ukerz>	heh
Feb 03 00:31:57 <Ukerz>	mebbe its a more realistic actual market demand
Feb 03 00:32:06 <Ukerz>	by the market, and not so much by bots on mpex :)
Feb 03 00:32:08 <Namworld>	I mean the asset manager should put shares for closer to market price
Feb 03 00:32:31 <Namworld>	It's not being properly managed
Feb 03 00:32:45 <Ukerz>	not sure he has any on sell atm
Feb 03 00:32:50 <Ukerz>	i think they were all bought up already
Feb 03 00:33:23 <Ukerz>	I will send em a msg when he wakes up in a bit
Feb 03 00:33:30 <Ukerz>	and tell him he needs to provide more shares from mpex
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Feb 03 00:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00712169 = 2.1365 BTC [+]
Feb 03 00:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 381 @ 0.00712168 = 2.7134 BTC [-]
Feb 03 00:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.0071197 = 5.3398 BTC [-]
Feb 03 00:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 733 @ 0.00711459 = 5.215 BTC [-]
Feb 03 00:39:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0082 = 0.0164 BTC [+]
Feb 03 00:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00066703 = 1.8677 BTC [+]
Feb 03 00:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066818 = 2.8872 BTC [+]
Feb 03 00:41:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00066819 = 6.4814 BTC [+]
Feb 03 00:41:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1729 @ 0.00067861 = 1.1733 BTC [+]
Feb 03 00:42:06 <Namworld>	Where is deadterra anyway? I don't see him around at all
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Feb 03 00:44:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1882 @ 0.00066644 = 1.2542 BTC [-]
Feb 03 00:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2368 @ 0.00066628 = 1.5778 BTC [-]
Feb 03 00:46:08 <mjr_>	lol speaking of bots
Feb 03 00:46:16 <mjr_>	i just finished one (kinda)
Feb 03 00:46:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00717782 = 1.4356 BTC [+]
Feb 03 00:46:44 <mjr_>	with mpex fees, it makes a lot of sense, but why aren't they there already?
Feb 03 00:47:34 <mjr_>	showing a 1.8% spread on mpoe
Feb 03 00:48:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006784 = 2.9314 BTC [+]
Feb 03 00:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00067861 = 3.5824 BTC [+]
Feb 03 00:51:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 467 @ 0.00711459 = 3.3225 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 01:01:50 <mjr_>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 03 01:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006535 / 0.00067049 / 0.00068107 (2049098 shares, 1,373.91 BTC), 7D: 0.00063335 / 0.00066152 / 0.00068325 (12827663 shares, 8,485.79 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065774 / 0.0007 (55609735 shares, 36,576.90 BTC)
Feb 03 01:02:33 <mjr_>	!ticker s.mpoe
Feb 03 01:02:34 <assbot>	These beans is shit.
Feb 03 01:02:49 <smickles>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 03 01:02:50 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006535 / 0.00067049 / 0.00068107 (2049098 shares, 1,373.91 BTC), 7D: 0.00063335 / 0.00066152 / 0.00068325 (12827663 shares, 8,485.79 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065774 / 0.0007 (55609735 shares, 36,576.90 BTC)
Feb 03 01:03:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.83831111 = 4.1916 BTC [+]
Feb 03 01:03:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00708542 = 11.3367 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:03:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00703438 = 2.1103 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:03:48 <smickles>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 03 01:03:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.75670000 / 0.78774547 / 0.88000000 (279 shares, 219.78098585 BTC), 7D: 0.56110000 / 0.74994941 / 0.89000000 (1488 shares, 1115.92471606 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.55967422 / 0.89000000 (6430 shares, 3598.70523400 BTC)
Feb 03 01:04:04 <mjr_>	wait, what is havelock?
Feb 03 01:04:08 <smickles>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 03 01:04:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00703438 / 0.00730464 / 0.007395 (54104 shares, 395.21 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00731681 / 0.00749999 (603134 shares, 4,413.02 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00492295 / 0.0075 (6446900 shares, 31,737.79 BTC)
Feb 03 01:04:23 <smickles>	apparently where the stupit people are
Feb 03 01:04:25 <mjr_>	also how can i just see the bid ask last
Feb 03 01:04:49 <mjr_>	hold on...
Feb 03 01:04:52 <mjr_>	there is no way that is right
Feb 03 01:05:11 <mjr_>	they are paying 100X the price on mpex?
Feb 03 01:05:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
Feb 03 01:05:27 <smickles>	yeah, they are units of 100 shares
Feb 03 01:05:29 <Namworld>	nah, havelock units are 100x S.DICE
Feb 03 01:05:35 <mjr_>	oh ok
Feb 03 01:06:01 <mjr_>	but still paying a bit more
Feb 03 01:06:04 <mjr_>	is that the fees?
Feb 03 01:06:28 <smickles>	naw, 'cause there are ways to trade on mpex for low fees
Feb 03 01:06:53 <smickles>	the havelock community are either quite lazey or stupid
Feb 03 01:06:57 <mjr_>	i thought the fees were just super low all the time
Feb 03 01:07:08 <smickles>	i spel gud
Feb 03 01:07:11 <mjr_>	hmmm, i am wondering whether my arb script is working well
Feb 03 01:07:36 <smickles>	i meant taking the signup fee into account
Feb 03 01:07:38 <mjr_>	it's showing 1.18% s.mpoe and 1.4% sdice
Feb 03 01:07:52 <mjr_>	oops 1.04% on sdice
Feb 03 01:08:38 <mjr_>	still enough to make a profit
Feb 03 01:08:55 <mjr_>	i tightened it up so that it would calculate both fees, buying low and selling high
Feb 03 01:09:09 <mjr_>	and only is true if the diffference is greater than the total of both fees
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Feb 03 01:10:35 <mjr_>	well, i am thinking of adding some parameters for volume...ie. if there are 100 shares ahead of me, i will just bump my price up by 2 to get behind
Feb 03 01:10:46 <mjr_>	since any market order will go right through that guy anway
Feb 03 01:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00067418 = 9.9104 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:15:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1953 @ 0.00066628 = 1.3012 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13597 @ 0.00066627 = 9.0593 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00710783 = 0.7108 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 01:28:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.741 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 01:29:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 01:30:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0081 = 0.081 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:31:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 149 @ 0.0081 = 1.2069 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:32:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 20 @ 0.73 = 14.6 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:33:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.72 = 1.44 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:33:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7101 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:33:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 01:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 986 @ 0.00707648 = 6.9774 BTC [-]
Feb 03 01:38:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 920 @ 0.00710783 = 6.5392 BTC [+]
Feb 03 01:38:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1258 @ 0.00717782 = 9.0297 BTC [+]
Feb 03 01:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1937 @ 0.00722046 = 13.986 BTC [+]
Feb 03 01:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 27140 @ 0.007395 = 200.7003 BTC [+]
Feb 03 01:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 5 @ 0.14492805 = 0.7246 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 01:47:11 <mjr_>	do people not use bots on mpex?
Feb 03 01:47:18 <mjr_>	are there rules regarding such things?
Feb 03 01:53:59 <mjr_>	omg, havelock's prices are so off
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Feb 03 02:01:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00067166 = 2.015 BTC [+]
Feb 03 02:02:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4003 @ 0.00066627 = 2.6671 BTC [-]
Feb 03 02:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1177 @ 0.00066564 = 0.7835 BTC [-]
Feb 03 02:02:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066496 = 2.8733 BTC [-]
Feb 03 02:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4299 @ 0.00066495 = 2.8586 BTC [-]
Feb 03 02:02:15 <error4733>	accurate price for havelock = price*0.95 They keep 5% of all div
Feb 03 02:02:42 <mjr_>	oh i meant they are buying sdice for like way more than it is on mpex
Feb 03 02:02:51 <mjr_>	that's because of div?
Feb 03 02:04:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00067396 = 2.7632 BTC [+]
Feb 03 02:05:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 221 @ 0.00067396 = 0.1489 BTC [+]
Feb 03 02:05:56 <mjr_>	what do you think?
Feb 03 02:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067417 = 2.9131 BTC [+]
Feb 03 02:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21152 @ 0.00067418 = 14.2603 BTC [+]
Feb 03 02:05:58 <mjr_>	https://mega.co.nz/#!IhhUnJ6C!GuMzblRtSFsfK5KKTh8KxUTO0ec1n4dwRsn2WRjHRAY
Feb 03 02:07:07 <error4733>	maybe small buyer can afford the gap bc they don't have to pay 30btc
Feb 03 02:07:28 <mjr_>	maybe...even on coinbr it's ok
Feb 03 02:07:37 <error4733>	how much ?
Feb 03 02:07:44 <error4733>	fee etc..
Feb 03 02:07:50 <mjr_>	https://mega.co.nz/#!YsJylAKA!EDMgniwD3entZ-yXlCpN-Sn9VFJmbCXcmV6cooDCOMw
Feb 03 02:07:52 <mjr_>	there is another
Feb 03 02:07:56 <error4733>	what ?
Feb 03 02:08:01 <mjr_>	the fee on coinbr os .5%
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Feb 03 02:08:22 <mjr_>	and no registration
Feb 03 02:08:40 <mjr_>	S.DICE just has ridiculous spread
Feb 03 02:08:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 14 @ 0.35 = 4.9 BTC [+]
Feb 03 02:09:12 <mjr_>	i set up the bot to jump ahead of big volume orders but to wait behind small volume...
Feb 03 02:09:53 <mjr_>	and it only thinks there is an opportunity if the fee to buy plus the fee to sell is smaller than the spread
Feb 03 02:10:02 <error4733>	i brand new world for me
Feb 03 02:10:07 <error4733>	all this bot
Feb 03 02:10:21 <mjr_>	well, it's not live yet
Feb 03 02:10:28 <mjr_>	but i just wanted to do some testing
Feb 03 02:10:45 <error4733>	my friend try atm one for btc, it's just amazing
Feb 03 02:11:00 <error4733>	he learn from his mistake
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Feb 03 02:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00067418 = 14.2252 BTC [+]
Feb 03 02:11:28 <mjr_>	he tried what?
Feb 03 02:11:33 <error4733>	a bot
Feb 03 02:11:44 <mjr_>	is it working?
Feb 03 02:12:02 <error4733>	i dunno
Feb 03 02:12:19 <mjr_>	cuz no way a bot would leave this gap on sdice and even mpoe...
Feb 03 02:12:20 <error4733>	last news, he bought a server
Feb 03 02:12:25 <mjr_>	oh wow
Feb 03 02:12:31 <error4733>	small
Feb 03 02:12:37 <mjr_>	i would like to make this one smarter though...
Feb 03 02:12:43 <error4733>	for put the bot 24/7
Feb 03 02:12:48 <mjr_>	like dynamically figure out how often to check
Feb 03 02:13:16 <mjr_>	and i need to work on the order interface
Feb 03 02:14:03 <error4733>	Genetic Programming
Feb 03 02:14:04 <error4733>	this
Feb 03 02:14:20 <error4733>	this is what my friend play whith
Feb 03 02:14:31 <error4733>	the bot mute haha
Feb 03 02:14:41 <error4733>	make mistake an learn
Feb 03 02:15:25 <error4733>	but is not for mpex
Feb 03 02:15:37 <error4733>	it's for trading btc
Feb 03 02:15:53 <mjr_>	thats cool
Feb 03 02:16:01 <mjr_>	its tough with btc
Feb 03 02:16:08 <mjr_>	because of exchange fees
Feb 03 02:16:42 <mjr_>	https://mega.co.nz/#!okpFSZ7B!cuclFyKX_j1C-Ub7LJoeRHM2OzREhD6camzHMQ60gnY
Feb 03 02:16:47 <mjr_>	i added bbet
Feb 03 02:17:32 <mjr_>	which has an absolutely insane spread
Feb 03 02:17:54 <error4733>	forget bbet
Feb 03 02:18:01 <error4733>	we made a simulation
Feb 03 02:18:01 <mjr_>	wahts up with it?
Feb 03 02:18:12 <error4733>	soo bad
Feb 03 02:18:17 <error4733>	no div
Feb 03 02:18:40 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 03 02:18:50 <mjr_>	but this was mainly just to leave it running and collect money
Feb 03 02:18:53 <Namworld>	quite literally
Feb 03 02:18:57 <mjr_>	but i bet the volume would be too low
Feb 03 02:19:10 <Namworld>	BBET is 100x too expansive.
Feb 03 02:19:17 <Namworld>	I might be exaggerating a bit tho
Feb 03 02:19:20 <error4733>	+1
Feb 03 02:19:25 <error4733>	50x
Feb 03 02:19:40 <mjr_>	that explains the huge spread
Feb 03 02:19:59 <error4733>	james ?
Feb 03 02:20:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066871 = 2.8895 BTC [-]
Feb 03 02:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5929 @ 0.00066854 = 3.9638 BTC [-]
Feb 03 02:20:24 <error4733>	James is you ?
Feb 03 02:20:29 <Bowjov>	Oh man, dice @havelock is crazy
Feb 03 02:20:46 <mjr_>	i saw
Feb 03 02:20:59 <mjr_>	apparently they keep 5% of the dividends or something?
Feb 03 02:21:14 <Bowjov>	Well, according to sunnakar, Dice is grossly undervalued as it stands as it is
Feb 03 02:21:21 <Bowjov>	there is still tremendous growth potential
Feb 03 02:21:21 <mjr_>	it definitely is
Feb 03 02:21:32 <mjr_>	i wish i could get in now
Feb 03 02:21:39 <mjr_>	but i have to wait till thursday
Feb 03 02:21:48 <Bowjov>	and he was right.. I respect that guy, he calculated the dice shares were worth xx75 before
Feb 03 02:21:52 <Bowjov>	and sure enough, he was right
Feb 03 02:21:56 <mjr_>	i don't know if anyone else gets that a 30%+ dividend is not normal
Feb 03 02:22:10 <mjr_>	that is with 0 growth
Feb 03 02:22:14 <Bowjov>	umm
Feb 03 02:22:22 <Bowjov>	dice had some tremendous growth
Feb 03 02:22:26 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 02:22:28 <mjr_>	i know
Feb 03 02:22:33 <Bowjov>	its on par with the red line so
Feb 03 02:22:33 <mjr_>	i meant going forward from now
Feb 03 02:22:35 <Namworld>	error, who are you talking to?
Feb 03 02:22:53 <mjr_>	if it stops growing and just keeps its current level of business
Feb 03 02:23:05 <mjr_>	it's on pace for 32% annual yield
Feb 03 02:23:29 <mjr_>	that is with share prices at todays price and not moving up
Feb 03 02:23:58 <Namworld>	30% is not that anormal...
Feb 03 02:24:09 <mjr_>	perhaps in the bitcoin world
Feb 03 02:24:11 <error4733>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1499197#msg1499197
Feb 03 02:24:32 <Bowjov>	well, the price shares will move up eventually
Feb 03 02:24:36 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 02:24:38 <mjr_>	true
Feb 03 02:24:39 <Namworld>	10% is normal for corporations such as Microsoft or stock exchange indice funds, which get near 10%
Feb 03 02:24:49 <mjr_>	yes true
Feb 03 02:24:58 <Namworld>	SatoshiDice would be considered very high risk
Feb 03 02:24:59 <mjr_>	so beating the market by 3X...pretty good
Feb 03 02:25:02 <OgNasty>	10% is not normal...
Feb 03 02:25:03 <mjr_>	i suppose
Feb 03 02:25:10 <mjr_>	yeah it is pretty high
Feb 03 02:25:13 <OgNasty>	2% is closer to the norm
Feb 03 02:25:16 <mjr_>	high risk fund might get that
Feb 03 02:25:22 <mjr_>	or lose
Feb 03 02:25:24 <error4733>	15% in normal world and people cry
Feb 03 02:25:30 <Bowjov>	well last month, you;d double your money in sdice
Feb 03 02:25:34 <mjr_>	yes, and you get a billion dollars
Feb 03 02:25:37 <Bowjov>	mhm.. i wonder if they could continue this
Feb 03 02:25:40 <error4733>	more
Feb 03 02:25:43 <mjr_>	managing a hedge fund
Feb 03 02:25:47 <error4733>	i made 150%
Feb 03 02:25:51 <mjr_>	if you can do 30% in the real world
Feb 03 02:26:01 <Bowjov>	'real world'
Feb 03 02:26:10 <mjr_>	not that this isn't the real world
Feb 03 02:26:17 <mjr_>	just that it is insulated
Feb 03 02:26:17 <Bowjov>	I'm sure we are not playing games here, real money is at stake
Feb 03 02:26:20 <error4733>	btc raise + s.dice raise : 150fking%
Feb 03 02:26:24 <mjr_>	of course
Feb 03 02:26:32 <Bowjov>	Yeah, I turned 2g into 4g
Feb 03 02:26:44 <mjr_>	i know, the returns are great
Feb 03 02:26:45 <Bowjov>	it woulda been 5g now if it wasnt for an investment fuck up a couple days ago
Feb 03 02:26:48 <mjr_>	i hope they keep up like this
Feb 03 02:26:54 <mjr_>	but that is my plan
Feb 03 02:27:02 <mjr_>	to just buy and hold sdice and mpoe
Feb 03 02:27:11 <mjr_>	but if i can market make while doing it...i am gonna try
Feb 03 02:27:14 <Namworld>	OgNasty: stock exchanges perform near 10% annually... seems normal
Feb 03 02:27:19 <Bowjov>	I honestly thought 17k was in dec was not gonna happen again.. I read the market wrong.
Feb 03 02:27:23 <Namworld>	Where do you get that 2%?
Feb 03 02:27:26 <OgNasty>	I'm talking dividends Namworld
Feb 03 02:27:35 <Namworld>	ah, right
Feb 03 02:27:40 <mjr_>	yeah apple's dividends are like 2%
Feb 03 02:27:43 <Bowjov>	I thought that as BTC appreciates, S.Dice deteriorates since people might get scared to spend their glorious btc.
Feb 03 02:27:44 <mjr_>	annual by the way
Feb 03 02:27:51 <Namworld>	Apple is overpriced and overhyped...
Feb 03 02:27:56 <mjr_>	eh
Feb 03 02:28:01 <OgNasty>	Namworld: You said Microsoft gets 10% dividends...  I think it's below 2% actually.
Feb 03 02:28:06 <mjr_>	they have a ton of cash, their P/E ratio is awesome
Feb 03 02:28:08 <mjr_>	they beat earnings
Feb 03 02:28:21 <mjr_>	they set new records on iphone sales
Feb 03 02:28:32 <mjr_>	ipad still has the vast majority of market share
Feb 03 02:28:32 <Namworld>	I never mentionned dividends, just the ROI
Feb 03 02:28:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00067386 = 2.1564 BTC [+]
Feb 03 02:28:40 <mjr_>	i see no reason why they are down to 550
Feb 03 02:29:21 <mjr_>	this is so crazy...
Feb 03 02:29:35 <mjr_>	how can there be a 2.5% spread on S.DICE
Feb 03 02:30:13 <mjr_>	leaving 2% profits (maybe 1.5% if you are on coinbr) on the table
Feb 03 02:30:30 <Namworld>	why not?
Feb 03 02:30:43 <mjr_>	i'm just curious
Feb 03 02:30:45 <Namworld>	people buy or sell a bit and bam, there's a gap that appears
Feb 03 02:30:49 <mjr_>	i thought there would be bots everywhere
Feb 03 02:30:55 <Namworld>	there's not that many people trading on MPEx
Feb 03 02:31:06 <Namworld>	and pretty much everyone is trading manually
Feb 03 02:31:12 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 02:31:24 <mjr_>	i kinda thought that the other brokers were feeding them a lot
Feb 03 02:31:41 <Namworld>	I think... I haven't seen many people talking of bots. Maybe 2-3
Feb 03 02:31:44 <mjr_>	but by manually you mean pympex right? not actually typing...
Feb 03 02:31:51 <Namworld>	+ coinbr
Feb 03 02:32:00 <Namworld>	yeah, pympex
Feb 03 02:32:20 <mjr_>	tbh, i thought mp would have had one
Feb 03 02:32:48 <Namworld>	He has one for options. All those 1000 stacks for each option pricing are regularly updated
Feb 03 02:32:50 <error4733>	what's the next IPO ?
Feb 03 02:33:08 <mjr_>	will there be another?
Feb 03 02:33:22 <mjr_>	i mean i know there will be, but is something on the horizon that peple know about?
Feb 03 02:33:44 <mjr_>	gap closed on mpoe
Feb 03 02:34:09 <Namworld>	nothing known
Feb 03 02:34:10 <mjr_>	how often does assbot update?
Feb 03 02:34:30 <Namworld>	as soon as a trade is made
Feb 03 02:34:44 <Namworld>	takes like 2-5 seconds
Feb 03 02:35:02 <mjr_>	pretty sure the trade went through a while ago
Feb 03 02:35:06 <mjr_>	oh wait nevermind
Feb 03 02:35:07 *	OgNasty wishes assbot would display NastyFans.org trades...
Feb 03 02:35:19 <mjr_>	he won't mention orders huh?
Feb 03 02:35:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 234 @ 0.0081 = 1.8954 BTC [-]
Feb 03 02:36:07 <mjr_>	yeah the gap is down to 200 satoshi
Feb 03 02:38:50 <Namworld>	I recommend BTC-BOND on BTCT.co
Feb 03 02:39:07 <mjr_>	yeah around a 10% return
Feb 03 02:39:10 <mjr_>	which is not bad
Feb 03 02:39:15 <mjr_>	annual i mean
Feb 03 02:39:29 <Namworld>	I'm the issuer
Feb 03 02:39:34 <mjr_>	nice
Feb 03 02:39:53 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGFKVlAtZVAzOGNqS1Brd05MUlFlT2c#gid=0
Feb 03 02:40:03 <Namworld>	My current portfolio and BTC-BOND debt
Feb 03 02:40:27 <error4733>	do u made this post on btctalk about the code etc ?
Feb 03 02:40:27 <mjr_>	lol, it's locked
Feb 03 02:40:35 <Namworld>	arf, sorry
Feb 03 02:40:48 <mjr_>	who?
Feb 03 02:40:57 <error4733>	namworld
Feb 03 02:41:22 <error4733>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGFKVlAtZVAzOGNqS1Brd05MUlFlT2c
Feb 03 02:41:24 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGFKVlAtZVAzOGNqS1Brd05MUlFlT2c
Feb 03 02:41:30 <Namworld>	dammit
Feb 03 02:41:35 <Namworld>	thanks error
Feb 03 02:41:53 <Namworld>	yeah I made the post
Feb 03 02:41:56 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140427.0
Feb 03 02:42:18 <Namworld>	If you're interested mjr
Feb 03 02:42:55 <mjr_>	yeah, let me check it out, but damn...
Feb 03 02:43:02 <mjr_>	hell of a portfolio
Feb 03 02:43:21 <Namworld>	It took huge hits with GLBSE going away
Feb 03 02:43:30 <Namworld>	Was looking better back then
Feb 03 02:43:37 <mjr_>	did you become a millionaire through bitcoins or before
Feb 03 02:43:40 <mjr_>	just curious
Feb 03 02:43:44 <mjr_>	cuz that's amazing
Feb 03 02:44:09 <mjr_>	and yes, i was looking at that bond
Feb 03 02:44:18 <mjr_>	i didn't realize it was a perpetuity though
Feb 03 02:44:22 <mjr_>	which i think is cool
Feb 03 02:44:37 <Namworld>	There's not even 20k USD in that portfolio...
Feb 03 02:44:59 <Namworld>	not really a perpetuity tho, can be cashed on request or recalled on request, by either side.
Feb 03 02:45:21 <Namworld>	So one should not sell under price, or buy over it
Feb 03 02:46:05 <mjr_>	i know, i would not want to keep it in cash
Feb 03 02:46:10 <mjr_>	but still
Feb 03 02:46:21 <mjr_>	it just keeps growing
Feb 03 02:46:27 <mjr_>	i am a bit confused though
Feb 03 02:46:47 <mjr_>	i think when i was reading the prospectus it said a fixed rate, but on this it says .5% weekly...
Feb 03 02:46:54 <mjr_>	which is VERY nice
Feb 03 02:48:02 <Namworld>	Ah, yeah, I cashed out people wishing to leave.
Feb 03 02:48:19 <mjr_>	lol, not used to seeing that many decimals on USD
Feb 03 02:48:20 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 03 02:48:36 <mjr_>	so i think i just counted from the right up to places
Feb 03 02:48:36 <Namworld>	The interest was 0.5% weekly on GLBSE. 0.03% daily now.
Feb 03 02:48:48 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 02:48:52 <mjr_>	but still percentage based
Feb 03 02:49:34 <mjr_>	ah yeah, that is what i read before .03% daily
Feb 03 02:49:47 <Namworld>	yeah. 10.95% now. Was 26.07% before per year.
Feb 03 02:50:02 <mjr_>	very cool
Feb 03 02:50:13 <mjr_>	is it applied daily?
Feb 03 02:50:18 <mjr_>	or just accrued
Feb 03 02:50:19 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 03 02:50:26 <mjr_>	wow that is a sweet deal
Feb 03 02:50:45 <Namworld>	BTCT.co allows me to preplan dividends per shares.
Feb 03 02:50:53 <Namworld>	A feature I insisted a lot on.
Feb 03 02:51:03 <mjr_>	thats really nice
Feb 03 02:51:07 <mjr_>	do they have an API?
Feb 03 02:51:17 <Namworld>	Because otherwise you can't have bonds for sale with a fixed coupon
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Feb 03 02:51:32 <Namworld>	because any sale would impact the per share amount
Feb 03 02:51:48 <Namworld>	Now I can put fixed coupon per bond.
Feb 03 02:51:53 <Namworld>	Yeah, they do have an API
Feb 03 02:52:23 <Namworld>	So that's automated for my spreadsheet
Feb 03 02:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3231 @ 0.00067745 = 2.1888 BTC [+]
Feb 03 02:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10748 @ 0.00067418 = 7.2461 BTC [-]
Feb 03 02:54:48 <mjr_>	and the gap is back for mpoe
Feb 03 02:55:05 <mjr_>	that looks really cool namworld
Feb 03 02:55:14 <mjr_>	i am definitely going to be getting some bonds
Feb 03 02:55:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00721823 = 9.3837 BTC [-]
Feb 03 02:55:36 <mjr_>	anything else you recommend on btct.co?
Feb 03 02:55:48 <Namworld>	BitVPS once we're moved there
Feb 03 02:56:02 <Namworld>	S.BVPS currently on MPEx
Feb 03 02:56:12 <Namworld>	We're being given the boot
Feb 03 02:56:19 <mjr_>	why's that?
Feb 03 02:56:49 <Namworld>	the guy on the contract on MPEx (rg) kind of gave us BitVPS although he's not supposed to according to contract
Feb 03 02:57:05 <Namworld>	and multiple breaches of contract in the past
Feb 03 02:57:16 <Namworld>	Well mircea decided to act
Feb 03 02:57:20 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 02:57:29 <Namworld>	We'll still honor shares
Feb 03 02:57:49 <Namworld>	But yeah, the founder kind of left the BTC scene in a hurry
Feb 03 02:57:57 <mjr_>	that sucks
Feb 03 02:58:17 <mjr_>	it seems like a great service
Feb 03 02:58:23 <Namworld>	He got a 60+ hours job as a manager
Feb 03 02:58:31 <mjr_>	something you can really use bitcoins for that you may NEED to spend money on
Feb 03 02:58:33 <Namworld>	In another hosting company
Feb 03 02:58:48 <Namworld>	So kind of had to let BitVPS go
Feb 03 02:58:56 <mjr_>	yeah makes sense
Feb 03 02:59:10 <Namworld>	We're featured on popular websites, such as Slush's Pool
Feb 03 02:59:22 <mjr_>	i use slush's
Feb 03 02:59:38 <mjr_>	29 m/hash's at the moment lol
Feb 03 02:59:41 <Namworld>	You probably saw the ad then.
Feb 03 02:59:51 <Namworld>	better than nothing
Feb 03 02:59:54 <mjr_>	i believe so, i've checked out the site
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Feb 03 03:00:10 <mjr_>	yeah but i blew my .05 btc on poker WAY too quickly
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Feb 03 03:01:13 <Namworld>	eh, poker
Feb 03 03:01:20 <mjr_>	yeah its tough
Feb 03 03:01:25 <mjr_>	got beat with pocket aces
Feb 03 03:01:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.0006738 = 2.392 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:01:34 <mjr_>	and again with pocket kings
Feb 03 03:01:47 <error4733>	forget about poket in CG
Feb 03 03:02:05 <mjr_>	waht is cg?
Feb 03 03:02:13 <mjr_>	i used seals with clubs
Feb 03 03:02:13 <error4733>	cash game
Feb 03 03:02:31 <mjr_>	well, with only 50 chips...not gonna work so well
Feb 03 03:02:46 <mjr_>	i basically just had to push it all in with the kings
Feb 03 03:02:53 <error4733>	is not 500 ?
Feb 03 03:02:57 <mjr_>	nope
Feb 03 03:02:59 <mjr_>	i had 50
Feb 03 03:03:07 <Namworld>	50, he had 0.05
Feb 03 03:03:08 <mjr_>	which i think is the minimum
Feb 03 03:03:11 <Namworld>	1 is 1000 chip
Feb 03 03:03:13 <error4733>	yes
Feb 03 03:03:31 <mjr_>	so of course, most people had 170 - 260
Feb 03 03:03:31 <Namworld>	I deposit a bitcoin or two every other week and play on Seals
Feb 03 03:03:37 <mjr_>	yeah it's fun
Feb 03 03:03:44 <mjr_>	but i have to wait till i can gett a bunch of bitcoins
Feb 03 03:03:45 <Namworld>	I'm not a very good player =P
Feb 03 03:03:54 <Namworld>	But it's a lot of fun.
Feb 03 03:03:59 <mjr_>	yes, and blackjack
Feb 03 03:04:06 <mjr_>	i made money at blackjack
Feb 03 03:04:10 <Namworld>	nah, not a fan of blackjack
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Feb 03 03:04:11 <mjr_>	i wish bitzino was public
Feb 03 03:05:13 <mjr_>	but sdice, your bonds and mpoe will make a great portfolio
Feb 03 03:05:23 <error4733>	no worries, is just the start for BTC gambling
Feb 03 03:05:35 <mjr_>	yes, and i feel like that will drive a lot of demand
Feb 03 03:05:44 <mjr_>	i just really want to start on my idea
Feb 03 03:05:47 <mjr_>	it could be great
Feb 03 03:05:52 <error4733>	me too
Feb 03 03:06:39 <mjr_>	do you think it is realistic, not probable, mind you, that btc could be at $40 by the end of 2013?
Feb 03 03:06:51 <mjr_>	i mean basically upwards of 20% chance
Feb 03 03:07:00 <Namworld>	possible. Depends on adoption.
Feb 03 03:07:05 <mjr_>	yeah exactly
Feb 03 03:07:06 <error4733>	my bet is 200$ in 5 years so yes
Feb 03 03:07:11 <error4733>	40$ easy
Feb 03 03:07:17 <mjr_>	that is what i am thinking
Feb 03 03:07:29 <mjr_>	i think online gambling will do a lot to get adoption up
Feb 03 03:07:41 <mjr_>	but i think that there needs to be something else
Feb 03 03:08:08 <error4733>	you can't go wrong, even in a major financial crise, people still gamble
Feb 03 03:08:13 <mjr_>	very true
Feb 03 03:08:40 <mjr_>	but it is one thing for people to get in for gambling, it's another when they start looking at it as viable for everyday stuff
Feb 03 03:08:49 <mjr_>	like groceries (the age old example)
Feb 03 03:09:30 <error4733>	no need
Feb 03 03:09:31 <mjr_>	that is when we will really see it fly up
Feb 03 03:10:02 <mjr_>	i mean, i wish i could be cashless
Feb 03 03:10:20 <error4733>	see paypal, big boom, huuge money but do u can buy in groceries ?
Feb 03 03:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00721823 = 1.4436 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:10:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00703438 = 6.3309 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:10:33 <mjr_>	good point
Feb 03 03:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.27325783 = 0.8198 BTC [+]
Feb 03 03:10:43 <mjr_>	and DAMN the spread is up to 5.58% on sdice
Feb 03 03:10:53 <error4733>	btc is perfect for web use
Feb 03 03:10:56 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 03:10:58 <mjr_>	true
Feb 03 03:11:46 <mjr_>	just so you guys know (2800 in fees, 39,000 taken in at that spread) in satoshi's
Feb 03 03:11:59 <error4733>	it's not from me ;) i read it in a nice topic
Feb 03 03:12:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.007395 = 8.874 BTC [+]
Feb 03 03:13:06 <Namworld>	Not a lot of satoshis
Feb 03 03:13:17 <mjr_>	really?
Feb 03 03:13:31 <mjr_>	i mean it doesn't add up to a lot in one transaction
Feb 03 03:13:44 <Namworld>	eh, in time, probably
Feb 03 03:13:49 <Namworld>	Now I want your bot
Feb 03 03:13:59 <mjr_>	not to mention did i not say that was per share?
Feb 03 03:14:15 <Namworld>	you forgot that mention
Feb 03 03:14:20 <mjr_>	so last transaction...1200 * 39000
Feb 03 03:14:23 <Namworld>	makes sense actually
Feb 03 03:15:17 <mjr_>	.4 btc
Feb 03 03:15:25 <mjr_>	.468 to be exact
Feb 03 03:15:30 <Namworld>	yup
Feb 03 03:15:43 <mjr_>	which is almost $10...
Feb 03 03:15:48 <mjr_>	damn i need to get this bot up and running
Feb 03 03:16:08 <Namworld>	less bragging, more botting
Feb 03 03:16:20 <mjr_>	well only problem is i have no way to send orders
Feb 03 03:16:28 <Namworld>	bragging about the opportunity without botting doesn't help much
Feb 03 03:16:30 <mjr_>	so once i get a system i can test
Feb 03 03:17:01 <mjr_>	they bot is running (the part that finds the opportunities) but i would need to test the position maker
Feb 03 03:17:27 <mjr_>	but that should be relatively easy
Feb 03 03:17:36 <Namworld>	Well do it
Feb 03 03:17:43 <mjr_>	although interfacing with gpg might be tough if someone wanted to use it on mpex
Feb 03 03:18:04 <mjr_>	i will try on coinbr as soon as i can
Feb 03 03:18:12 <mjr_>	i dont' know their api
Feb 03 03:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 771 @ 0.0006738 = 0.5195 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006738 = 6.738 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31159 @ 0.00067379 = 20.9946 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:21:21 <Namworld>	Well fuck... if you bought last winter 3200 BTC at 5$ for 16000k USD
Feb 03 03:21:31 <Namworld>	16k USD
Feb 03 03:21:37 <Namworld>	or 16000*
Feb 03 03:21:41 <Namworld>	arf =P
Feb 03 03:21:52 <Namworld>	You could have bought 1  million S.DICE at 0.0032
Feb 03 03:22:25 <Namworld>	for 1/100th of S.DICE profit
Feb 03 03:22:34 <Namworld>	last month that would have been 200 BTC
Feb 03 03:22:39 <error4733>	value atm ?
Feb 03 03:22:41 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 03 03:22:50 <error4733>	7200 BTC
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Feb 03 03:23:00 <error4733>	+200 div
Feb 03 03:23:09 <Namworld>	more with past months
Feb 03 03:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	how goes
Feb 03 03:23:39 <mjr_>	i built a fun bot that tries to market make
Feb 03 03:23:41 <error4733>	7600*20$
Feb 03 03:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1580 @ 0.007395 = 11.6841 BTC [+]
Feb 03 03:23:54 <error4733>	150K$
Feb 03 03:23:59 <error4733>	...
Feb 03 03:24:15 <Namworld>	yup error...
Feb 03 03:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ which exchanges ?
Feb 03 03:24:25 <mjr_>	just mpex data so far
Feb 03 03:24:33 <mjr_>	spread is crazy on sdice
Feb 03 03:24:43 <mjr_>	5.58%
Feb 03 03:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	o, you arbing the pts ?
Feb 03 03:25:12 <mjr_>	nah just sdice right now, though i can plug in any symbol and it will check it for spreads greater than fees
Feb 03 03:25:32 <mjr_>	also mpoe...but only with .541 %
Feb 03 03:25:43 <mjr_>	can barely squeeze a profit there
Feb 03 03:25:58 <mjr_>	https://mega.co.nz/#!okpFSZ7B!cuclFyKX_j1C-Ub7LJoeRHM2OzREhD6camzHMQ60gnY
Feb 03 03:26:10 <mjr_>	and this is only the scanning calculating part of it
Feb 03 03:26:16 <mjr_>	i need an order interface
Feb 03 03:26:24 <mjr_>	but can't find out how to do that on coinbr
Feb 03 03:28:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006738 = 2.9115 BTC [+]
Feb 03 03:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140 @ 0.00067379 = 0.0943 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:29:56 <mjr_>	if i can build a somewhat abstract order interface, then i could put it on multiple exchanges...which would be nice
Feb 03 03:30:09 <mjr_>	havelock seems to have different prices on s.dice
Feb 03 03:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 669 @ 0.00067745 = 0.4532 BTC [+]
Feb 03 03:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1126 @ 0.00067861 = 0.7641 BTC [+]
Feb 03 03:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068168 = 2.9455 BTC [+]
Feb 03 03:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7312 @ 0.00068169 = 4.9845 BTC [+]
Feb 03 03:31:41 <mjr_>	mpoe up to 1.17%
Feb 03 03:32:42 <mjr_>	if anyone wants my code to play around with it, they are welcome to it
Feb 03 03:36:39 <error4733>	wrong degree...
Feb 03 03:36:58 <mjr_>	just disappeared
Feb 03 03:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00068152 = 2.0105 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:37:55 <mjr_>	back now at .5% is that wrong?
Feb 03 03:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	what's wrong ?
Feb 03 03:43:04 <mjr_>	oh, error said wrong degree
Feb 03 03:43:14 <mjr_>	so i wasn't sure if i was calculating the spread correctly
Feb 03 03:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067398 = 2.9123 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12579 @ 0.00067379 = 8.4756 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.00067379 / 0.00067745
Feb 03 03:46:18 <gribble>	0.994597387261
Feb 03 03:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	looks like .5 to me
Feb 03 03:46:42 <mjr_>	that's really weird
Feb 03 03:47:39 <mjr_>	anyway, i think i did it right
Feb 03 03:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11058 @ 0.0006754 = 7.4686 BTC [+]
Feb 03 03:52:37 <error4733>	*school degrees
Feb 03 03:52:52 <error4733>	sorry
Feb 03 03:53:00 <mjr_>	what was your degree in?
Feb 03 03:53:17 <mjr_>	mine was business admin
Feb 03 03:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	philosophy.
Feb 03 03:55:22 <mjr_>	that is a great degree
Feb 03 03:55:45 <mjr_>	math is very philosophical now
Feb 03 03:56:11 <error4733>	the wrong degrees
Feb 03 03:57:33 <Namworld>	SatoshiDice is slow
Feb 03 03:57:37 <error4733>	you'r soo stupid at 18 years, why we have to choose a such important think like a futur at this stupid age
Feb 03 03:57:49 <mircea_popescu>	heh who told you you're "choosing yoiur future"
Feb 03 03:58:03 <Namworld>	to return my transactions
Feb 03 03:58:04 <error4733>	touche
Feb 03 03:58:26 <Namworld>	I probably didn't win anyway =P
Feb 03 03:58:39 <error4733>	you play SD ?
Feb 03 03:58:47 <error4733>	thanks for this good month
Feb 03 03:58:49 <mjr_>	it actually works out ok i think
Feb 03 03:58:54 <Namworld>	I haven't played in month
Feb 03 03:59:00 <Namworld>	and had like half a BTC
Feb 03 03:59:04 <Namworld>	months*
Feb 03 03:59:04 <mjr_>	usually you never do what you went to school for
Feb 03 03:59:10 <Namworld>	in my gambling addy
Feb 03 03:59:21 <mjr_>	ooh sdice finally dropping
Feb 03 03:59:34 <mjr_>	down to 2.92%
Feb 03 03:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00718504 = 6.8258 BTC [-]
Feb 03 03:59:43 <mjr_>	i mean spread
Feb 03 04:00:04 <mjr_>	lol did i beat assbot?
Feb 03 04:00:23 <error4733>	do u try out BitMillions ?
Feb 03 04:00:37 <Namworld>	I used the dice with the best long term return odds
Feb 03 04:00:47 <error4733>	haha
Feb 03 04:00:52 <Namworld>	the 98.156% one xD
Feb 03 04:00:58 <mjr_>	hahaha
Feb 03 04:01:02 <Namworld>	The dice you never win
Feb 03 04:01:26 <error4733>	the best ood is mine
Feb 03 04:01:39 <error4733>	just buy some share but never play
Feb 03 04:02:14 <error4733>	*odds *bought
Feb 03 04:02:32 <Namworld>	oh, yeah
Feb 03 04:02:38 <error4733>	definitly not a english degree...
Feb 03 04:02:39 <Namworld>	That's good too
Feb 03 04:03:06 <mjr_>	hey namworld, how do you place orders through coinbr?
Feb 03 04:03:23 <Namworld>	I have no idea
Feb 03 04:03:32 <mjr_>	do they have an api? i signed up but i can't find anything
Feb 03 04:03:41 <Namworld>	No idea
Feb 03 04:03:53 <Namworld>	ask jurov
Feb 03 04:04:03 <mjr_>	i've been waiting for him...
Feb 03 04:04:19 <Namworld>	I never touched coinbr
Feb 03 04:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21849 @ 0.0006754 = 14.7568 BTC [+]
Feb 03 04:04:57 <mjr_>	btctc.co
Feb 03 04:05:00 <error4733>	Q. How do I do short trades with CoinBr?
Feb 03 04:05:00 <error4733>	MPEx offers support for short trading/market making futures and options, using MKFUT/MKOPT/SPLIT commands. There is no GUI on CoinBr for them yet, but we'll do it for you when asked over e-mail or IRC. Only MPEx fee, if any, will be asked atm.
Feb 03 04:05:00 <error4733>	« Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 01:34:42 PM by CoinBr »
Feb 03 04:05:25 <mjr_>	yeah, i wasn't planning on those orders
Feb 03 04:05:29 <mjr_>	just simple buy orders
Feb 03 04:05:32 <error4733>	http://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/frequently-asked-questions/?PHPSESSID=md5c8c2lr382ub31vpbtg7dl86
Feb 03 04:06:33 <Namworld>	Ok, off for a bit
Feb 03 04:06:41 <mjr_>	that's whats weird...i don't see any gui for orders, but maybe they dynamically turn that on once funds arrive?
Feb 03 04:06:48 <mjr_>	have a good one namworld
Feb 03 04:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9432 @ 0.0006754 = 6.3704 BTC [+]
Feb 03 04:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 868 @ 0.00067379 = 0.5848 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:09:57 <Bowjov>	jjticker
Feb 03 04:10:01 <Bowjov>	;;ticker
Feb 03 04:10:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.90002, Best ask: 19.98898, Bid-ask spread: 0.08896, Last trade: 19.90001, 24 hour volume: 41906.77847932, 24 hour low: 18.70000, 24 hour high: 20.20000, 24 hour vwap: 19.69482
Feb 03 04:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ why not talk straight to mpex tho ?
Feb 03 04:10:51 <mjr_>	believe me i plan on it
Feb 03 04:11:05 <mjr_>	as soon as i can i will be registering
Feb 03 04:11:19 <mjr_>	but until then i figured i would just go through jurov
Feb 03 04:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	ya but i don't think he's actually implemented an api
Feb 03 04:11:34 <mjr_>	oh....
Feb 03 04:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	on account of it being silly to have a long api pipe
Feb 03 04:11:40 <mjr_>	yeah true
Feb 03 04:11:52 <mjr_>	well i mean, i wouldn't mind if he just passed through
Feb 03 04:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	i think coinbr is more intended to help the people who want to trade on a website/don't want to handle computer guts
Feb 03 04:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	such as apis or gpgs
Feb 03 04:12:24 <mjr_>	after all, he is just sending it with a slight markup on fee, and he really only needs to keep track of that on his end
Feb 03 04:12:46 <mjr_>	i agree and i don't mind dealing with gpg and any other computer related thing
Feb 03 04:12:52 <mjr_>	but i can't afford registration yet
Feb 03 04:12:59 <mjr_>	so once i can, i will be on there
Feb 03 04:13:03 <mjr_>	soon enough i hope
Feb 03 04:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	hm. i guess you might actually be in a crack
Feb 03 04:13:17 <Bowjov>	by then mp might jack the price to 35 btc :2
Feb 03 04:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	or 50.
Feb 03 04:13:24 <mjr_>	that's ok
Feb 03 04:13:35 <mjr_>	it'll still be worth it for a long time i think
Feb 03 04:13:45 <Bowjov>	is there a way to sell mpex account?
Feb 03 04:13:58 <mjr_>	you'd have to give up gpg ident
Feb 03 04:14:00 <mjr_>	i believe
Feb 03 04:14:09 <mjr_>	and that is if it's allowed
Feb 03 04:14:14 <error4733>	Is there some way I could be an affiliate ?
Feb 03 04:14:14 <error4733>	Sure. If you already have an account and someone mentions your keyid when they sign up for a new account each of you will be credited 5 BTC. Simple as pie.
Feb 03 04:14:35 <error4733>	you just need 25BTC for start ;)
Feb 03 04:14:39 <mjr_>	true
Feb 03 04:14:59 <mjr_>	so that is approx...$500
Feb 03 04:15:13 <Bowjov>	i dont wanna deal with that stuff.. that guy who fat fingered about 70k USD on dice
Feb 03 04:15:20 <mjr_>	another 10 btc to fund the account (that is the minimum right?)
Feb 03 04:15:36 <Bowjov>	yeah
Feb 03 04:15:46 <mjr_>	so $700 to get started...
Feb 03 04:15:47 <Bowjov>	well a bit more than 10btc since you need some numbers
Feb 03 04:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ nah. the minimum deposit is 10 btc
Feb 03 04:15:54 <Bowjov>	to identify
Feb 03 04:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	if you make a 30 btc deposit that's clearly over the 10 btc limit
Feb 03 04:16:09 <mjr_>	oh, i thought that was a fee
Feb 03 04:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	then if you are referred tyou get 5 back so you have a little to trade on
Feb 03 04:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	ya it is a fee, but taken out of your first deposit
Feb 03 04:16:20 <mjr_>	ah i see
Feb 03 04:16:28 <mjr_>	cool
Feb 03 04:16:36 <mjr_>	well i think i may be able to do it
Feb 03 04:16:46 <mjr_>	tough on the 1st of the month, but i figure it will be worth it
Feb 03 04:17:15 <mjr_>	amazing the spread on these puts
Feb 03 04:17:49 <mircea_popescu>	ya, the spread on the options has been a point of discussion since about october 2011
Feb 03 04:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	"wow huge spreads!"
Feb 03 04:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	"so go midmarket."
Feb 03 04:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	"umm... hm. eh. nm."
Feb 03 04:18:07 <error4733>	finish him, run some simulation and time will see !
Feb 03 04:18:08 <mjr_>	yeah...i'll just go a satoshi inside of both sides
Feb 03 04:18:27 <mjr_>	that is what i don't get
Feb 03 04:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00067737 = 1.7273 BTC [+]
Feb 03 04:18:32 <mjr_>	someone would usually do that
Feb 03 04:18:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006821 = 2.9474 BTC [+]
Feb 03 04:18:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1980 @ 0.00068169 = 1.3497 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:18:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 749 @ 0.00068211 = 0.5109 BTC [+]
Feb 03 04:18:41 <mjr_>	and then someone else would jump in front of him
Feb 03 04:18:57 <mjr_>	mpoe just jumped back on my radar :)
Feb 03 04:21:14 <ahdinosaur>	;;asks 19.9999
Feb 03 04:21:17 <gribble>	There are currently 7.9857751 bitcoins offered at or under 19.9999 USD, worth 159.627578416 USD in total.
Feb 03 04:21:20 <mjr_>	so question, do you send back an ack type message?
Feb 03 04:21:30 <mjr_>	after successful order
Feb 03 04:21:41 <mjr_>	or do you have to stat
Feb 03 04:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	you get a signed "your order to x was received"
Feb 03 04:22:16 <mircea_popescu>	to see execution you have to either watch reporting or stat
Feb 03 04:22:26 <mjr_>	cool
Feb 03 04:22:48 <mjr_>	reporting being the json right?
Feb 03 04:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	no, reporting being rss, twitter or here
Feb 03 04:25:01 <mjr_>	oh cool
Feb 03 04:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	stat being stat or statjson
Feb 03 04:25:32 <mjr_>	but you have to send statjson command signed by pgp
Feb 03 04:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Feb 03 04:25:40 <mjr_>	ok cool
Feb 03 04:25:40 <error4733>	late today i'll ask my friend to look on your code ! he coul'd be interested
Feb 03 04:25:49 <mircea_popescu>	stats tell you details about your acct specifically.
Feb 03 04:25:50 <mjr_>	i think it could be nice
Feb 03 04:26:03 <mjr_>	my code, and yeah, i figured it was like a summary
Feb 03 04:26:05 <mircea_popescu>	reporting is global, but if you know you just ordered 5k of s.blabla and 4k trade at your price
Feb 03 04:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	you know you got filled for 4k or something likethat
Feb 03 04:26:15 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 04:26:17 <mjr_>	so i will diff
Feb 03 04:26:21 <mjr_>	and keep track
Feb 03 04:26:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1464 @ 0.00068207 = 0.9986 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:26:46 <mjr_>	the cool thing about the code, is that it takes into account volume somewhat
Feb 03 04:26:53 <mjr_>	and its still pretty rough
Feb 03 04:27:14 <mjr_>	but you can't jump in front unless you put small volume
Feb 03 04:27:25 <mjr_>	in which case i want to be behind at the next price level
Feb 03 04:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1499501#msg1499501 usagi is totally cool
Feb 03 04:27:33 <error4733>	haha
Feb 03 04:27:36 <error4733>	0.5
Feb 03 04:27:47 <error4733>	he's on crack
Feb 03 04:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	"This is a difficult concept for new or inexperienced investors to grasp"
Feb 03 04:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	end quote.
Feb 03 04:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.0006742 = 1.9552 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00067404 = 1.4829 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	the funny thing is tho... i don't think .8 sort of insanity is TOTALLY off the table on a 1-2 year span
Feb 03 04:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	then again, 0.0 isn't totally off the table on those sorts of intervals either.
Feb 03 04:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	heck, btc may fail by 2015
Feb 03 04:29:01 <error4733>	go big or go home
Feb 03 04:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	i can sort-of see some large player going 50-100mn for satoshidice
Feb 03 04:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	if that happens when btc is in the teens it may well be something like 0.x oper share
Feb 03 04:30:47 <error4733>	ok, me too. be we're still far away from 0.8
Feb 03 04:31:19 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 03 04:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00703438 / 0.00732547 / 0.007395 (84338 shares, 617.82 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00731809 / 0.00749999 (638455 shares, 4,672.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00496255 / 0.0075 (6355965 shares, 31,541.85 BTC)
Feb 03 04:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.8*732547*20
Feb 03 04:31:34 <gribble>	11720752
Feb 03 04:31:59 <mjr_>	basically the entire economy right now
Feb 03 04:32:03 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 03 04:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	um wtf
Feb 03 04:32:14 <mjr_>	wasn't that number in btc
Feb 03 04:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	i fucked it uyp lol
Feb 03 04:32:18 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 04:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.8*100000000*20
Feb 03 04:32:22 <gribble>	1600000000
Feb 03 04:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	ya if it were .8 now that'd value s.dice at 1.6bn
Feb 03 04:32:39 <mircea_popescu>	seems untenable.
Feb 03 04:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8743 @ 0.00068211 = 5.9637 BTC [+]
Feb 03 04:32:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2857 @ 0.00068207 = 1.9487 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:32:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.0074 = 0.0518 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:32:45 <error4733>	yep
Feb 03 04:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	course... fb sold for 100bn
Feb 03 04:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	equally untenable.
Feb 03 04:33:06 <error4733>	0.08 seem more realistic
Feb 03 04:33:08 <mjr_>	yes and insta for one billion
Feb 03 04:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 tbh .0075 or w/e seems the most realistic atm :)
Feb 03 04:33:44 <mjr_>	i guess
Feb 03 04:33:46 <mjr_>	i don't know about growth
Feb 03 04:33:54 <mjr_>	but finding a yield like that is tough
Feb 03 04:35:02 <error4733>	anyway, i hold ALL my S.dice
Feb 03 04:35:20 <mjr_>	i think .01 by the end of the year
Feb 03 04:35:35 <Namworld>	I'd say so too. 0.0075 seems nice at the moment
Feb 03 04:35:35 <mjr_>	which is great growth, and great return
Feb 03 04:35:53 <Namworld>	There's always the risk of betting on SD going down
Feb 03 04:36:22 <Namworld>	It remains that S.DICE has risk like anything else. 0.0075 is good to me.
Feb 03 04:36:29 <mjr_>	the risk of betting on it and it going down, or the risk of betting on it going down
Feb 03 04:37:04 <mjr_>	well
Feb 03 04:37:09 <mjr_>	it depends on your outlook
Feb 03 04:37:19 <mjr_>	and i for one am guessing that you guys are into bitcoins
Feb 03 04:37:38 <mjr_>	in which case, unless the shares go to 0...you still have appreciation
Feb 03 04:38:30 <Namworld>	If shares drop, that might still be less than if we kept Bitcoins alone.
Feb 03 04:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's the important part for many people i guess
Feb 03 04:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	with rewards going down and diff going up,
Feb 03 04:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	btc revenue streams increase in value
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Feb 03 04:38:48 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 03 04:38:55 <mjr_>	you will get btc from dividends
Feb 03 04:39:08 <mjr_>	so it would be hard for you to have less btc than when you started, not impossible
Feb 03 04:39:14 <mjr_>	but hard
Feb 03 04:39:34 <mjr_>	i am gonna mix it up a bit
Feb 03 04:39:44 <mjr_>	some bonds from namworld, some mpoe and some s.dice
Feb 03 04:40:06 <Namworld>	thanks
Feb 03 04:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's always good to mix.
Feb 03 04:41:35 <error4733>	read the FAQ before buying MPOE haha
Feb 03 04:42:01 <mjr_>	i did
Feb 03 04:42:04 <mjr_>	it looks good
Feb 03 04:42:05 <mjr_>	and yes
Feb 03 04:42:05 <error4733>	[joke] i got some
Feb 03 04:42:11 <mjr_>	i wil make sure to send it to the right addresss
Feb 03 04:42:23 <mjr_>	the signifigant digits
Feb 03 04:42:24 <Namworld>	I have a founder and CEO of a company in the financial sector as the top holder of my BTC-BOND
Feb 03 04:42:31 <Namworld>	I found it somewhat odd.
Feb 03 04:42:34 <mjr_>	nice
Feb 03 04:42:36 <mjr_>	i don't
Feb 03 04:42:42 <mircea_popescu>	why odd ?
Feb 03 04:42:44 <mjr_>	10% is unheard of for a bond
Feb 03 04:42:51 <mjr_>	right now at least
Feb 03 04:42:59 <mjr_>	one that you will actually get the money back
Feb 03 04:43:08 <mjr_>	.5% is like bond rates now
Feb 03 04:43:34 <Namworld>	Odd because BTC-BOND is a small thing lost in the middle of tons of larger offers.
Feb 03 04:43:41 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 03 04:44:04 <Namworld>	and Bitcoins to top it. I wasn't expecting someone from the financial sector to find his way to my little thing.
Feb 03 04:44:32 <error4733>	your brother-in-law ?
Feb 03 04:44:33 <Namworld>	I would have expected for S.DICE and such, someone putting a few 10k for fun.
Feb 03 04:45:08 <Namworld>	error: no, complete stranger
Feb 03 04:45:23 <Namworld>	BTCT.co sends a list of holders every 12 hours
Feb 03 04:45:44 <Namworld>	I thought at first someone filled an email that was not his
Feb 03 04:46:00 <Namworld>	Ended up being genuine.
Feb 03 04:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld maybe they just want to watch you at work, learn about btc etc.
Feb 03 04:47:31 <Namworld>	My contract state it's a personal loan, that can be spent on whatever I see fit.
Feb 03 04:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
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Feb 03 04:48:36 <Namworld>	I disbursed an extra coupon when I did good option trades. The guy didn't seem to know I was trading actively.
Feb 03 04:48:56 <Namworld>	Other than I kept stocks collateral on GLBSE for the loan.
Feb 03 04:49:01 <Bowjov>	3 million bitcoins won already ho lee schitt!
Feb 03 04:49:03 <mjr_>	question
Feb 03 04:49:10 <Bowjov>	http://satoshidice.com/
Feb 03 04:49:28 <error4733>	?
Feb 03 04:49:31 <mjr_>	do you have a limited number of bonds?
Feb 03 04:49:44 <mjr_>	or would you just increase your holdings to accept more
Feb 03 04:49:49 <Namworld>	50000 bonds for now (500 BTC)
Feb 03 04:50:07 <Namworld>	I'm not sure I want to manage more funds...
Feb 03 04:51:12 <mjr_>	yeah i get you
Feb 03 04:51:15 <mjr_>	just curious
Feb 03 04:51:16 <Namworld>	Not as a loan at least.
Feb 03 04:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	having a cap is a great saferty play, and one the various wannabe managers in the past eschewed to their detriment.
Feb 03 04:51:57 <mircea_popescu>	if they did have caps for all their pirate stuff they wouldn't be quite as in the pits today
Feb 03 04:52:35 <Namworld>	If they had a cap higher than 0 for pirate stuff I don't quite see why they'd deserve holding even a bitcent...
Feb 03 04:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld if they did, I personally insure this thing, but it never takes more than 100 btc
Feb 03 04:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	THEN they could have just paid out of pocket and closed cleanly.
Feb 03 04:53:55 <mircea_popescu>	they did I personally insure and there's no cap.
Feb 03 04:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	well...
Feb 03 04:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	that doesn't work so good.
Feb 03 04:54:26 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 03 04:55:04 <Namworld>	Although I could always manage funds on another basis than a loan
Feb 03 04:55:11 <Namworld>	Where I'd get a smaller cut
Feb 03 04:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	maybe there'd be a taste for more reward/more risk
Feb 03 04:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	but even so, caps are almost always a good idea.
Feb 03 04:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2121 @ 0.00067404 = 1.4296 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10054 @ 0.00067379 = 6.7743 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00067186 = 7.3233 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067001 = 6.7001 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:55:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49 @ 0.00067 = 0.0328 BTC [-]
Feb 03 04:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	there's so little know with certainty in btc, any added certainty is a net gain
Feb 03 04:56:25 <Namworld>	aye
Feb 03 04:56:47 <Namworld>	In any case... where are all the DMC holders?
Feb 03 04:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	i think actually a good way to regard manager's position is to look at added value
Feb 03 04:57:01 <Namworld>	Why can't all asset holders hang in here?
Feb 03 04:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	what does he contribute ?
Feb 03 04:57:09 <mircea_popescu>	the chief thing he could be contributing is certainty
Feb 03 04:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i think the girl sums it up good : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140484.msg1500250#msg1500250
Feb 03 04:57:30 <mircea_popescu>	hobbysts
Feb 03 04:59:24 <mjr_>	yes
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Feb 03 05:00:04 <mjr_>	and there goes all the spreads
Feb 03 05:00:14 <Namworld>	But at the size of what I do, it should be considered hobbyist work. I'm working with small sums
Feb 03 05:03:54 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu: quick question about options
Feb 03 05:04:04 <mjr_>	do you consider positions hedged?
Feb 03 05:04:19 <mjr_>	for example if i had the put and the call
Feb 03 05:04:40 <mjr_>	how would you calculate total exposure
Feb 03 05:04:52 <mjr_>	or...what do you call it again? collateral needed to hold that position
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Feb 03 05:05:33 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGxfRk5SS0hxT1lsVmdLdU1QY0RveGc#gid=0
Feb 03 05:05:34 <mjr_>	it should be risk neutral...and all i should be able to lose is the premium i pay
Feb 03 05:05:51 <Namworld>	Capital required to CREATE options
Feb 03 05:06:16 <mjr_>	i am not creating them
Feb 03 05:06:19 <mjr_>	i am buying them
Feb 03 05:06:34 <Namworld>	Then why should there be any collateral?
Feb 03 05:06:35 <mjr_>	so you don't need capital to buy
Feb 03 05:06:43 <Namworld>	If you buy an option?
Feb 03 05:06:49 <mjr_>	not sure, i thought it was weird
Feb 03 05:07:09 <mjr_>	but i always heard people talking about collateral with their options
Feb 03 05:07:16 <mjr_>	i just want to buy put and call
Feb 03 05:07:24 <mjr_>	but the same theory holds...
Feb 03 05:07:25 <Namworld>	The creator puts collateral and sell the option at less than its redeem value in the hope of a profit.
Feb 03 05:07:39 <mjr_>	if i sell the put and i sell the call
Feb 03 05:07:50 <mjr_>	i should be in a risk neutral position
Feb 03 05:07:51 <Namworld>	The buyer pays that premium, and stand to eat that collateral or get nothing
Feb 03 05:08:13 <Namworld>	The collateral is usually much larger than the sale price
Feb 03 05:08:14 <mjr_>	short straddle is what it is called...
Feb 03 05:08:24 <Namworld>	If you sold puts and calls, you could still lose
Feb 03 05:08:37 <mjr_>	you could lose, but limited
Feb 03 05:08:38 <Namworld>	If price swayed a lot in one direction
Feb 03 05:08:45 <mjr_>	yes, that is the point of them
Feb 03 05:08:50 <Namworld>	yup
Feb 03 05:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068194 = 3.4097 BTC [+]
Feb 03 05:09:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068195 = 2.9467 BTC [+]
Feb 03 05:09:25 <mjr_>	i like long straddle
Feb 03 05:09:25 <Namworld>	Use my Google Spreadsheets stuff. Just handy.
Feb 03 05:09:30 <mjr_>	yeah i like it
Feb 03 05:09:41 <mjr_>	or strangle
Feb 03 05:10:03 <mjr_>	i have been trying to do some simulations and modeling of weighting the strike prices differently to find the best mid of risk, cost, and profit
Feb 03 05:10:55 <mjr_>	like say i had call put at 20, call at 21, put at 19
Feb 03 05:11:34 <mjr_>	how much should i weight the inner straddle vs the outer strangle
Feb 03 05:11:49 <mjr_>	because the straddle will cost the most
Feb 03 05:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00067593 = 2.2644 BTC [-]
Feb 03 05:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006702 = 2.8959 BTC [-]
Feb 03 05:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067007 = 2.8954 BTC [-]
Feb 03 05:12:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 258 @ 0.00067 = 0.1729 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 05:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068181 = 2.9461 BTC [+]
Feb 03 05:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1621 @ 0.00068211 = 1.1057 BTC [+]
Feb 03 05:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1847 @ 0.00068211 = 1.2599 BTC [+]
Feb 03 05:17:23 <mjr_>	ok i am gonna get some sleep
Feb 03 05:17:26 <mjr_>	good night everyone
Feb 03 05:19:14 <Namworld>	Hmm, I shall do the same I suppose
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Feb 03 05:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ do you know how the bot works at all ?
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Feb 03 05:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	aw lol too late.
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Feb 03 05:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5528 @ 0.00067985 = 3.7582 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 06:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00738112 = 13.286 BTC [+]
Feb 03 06:07:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067202 = 2.9038 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4122 @ 0.00067985 = 2.8023 BTC [+]
Feb 03 06:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 757 @ 0.00067195 = 0.5087 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006722 = 2.9046 BTC [+]
Feb 03 06:08:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11829 @ 0.00067195 = 7.9485 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:12:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1814 @ 0.00067195 = 1.2189 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00067002 = 0.6365 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 06:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3764 @ 0.00067002 = 2.522 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067001 = 3.3501 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27881 @ 0.00067 = 18.6803 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1206 @ 0.00068202 = 0.8225 BTC [+]
Feb 03 06:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63000 @ 0.00067 = 42.21 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:30:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00067 = 3.216 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3115 @ 0.00068202 = 2.1245 BTC [+]
Feb 03 06:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006821 = 6.821 BTC [+]
Feb 03 06:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13653 @ 0.00068211 = 9.3128 BTC [+]
Feb 03 06:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4530 @ 0.0006833 = 3.0953 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 06:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067444 = 2.9143 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:40:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12174 @ 0.00067412 = 8.2067 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:50:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00067999 = 4.5559 BTC [+]
Feb 03 06:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4226 @ 0.00067412 = 2.8488 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:50:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5541 @ 0.00067 = 3.7125 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2 @ 0.00066855 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 06:52:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.0079 = 1.975 BTC [+]
Feb 03 06:57:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9998 @ 0.00066855 = 6.6842 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2852 @ 0.00066854 = 1.9067 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 06:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00066854 = 2.0056 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:58:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 234 @ 0.00738112 = 1.7272 BTC [+]
Feb 03 06:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9466 @ 0.007186 = 68.0227 BTC [-]
Feb 03 06:58:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00718504 = 2.1555 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 07:01:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00066854 = 5.8832 BTC [-]
Feb 03 07:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.007395 = 0.074 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 07:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9990 @ 0.007395 = 73.8761 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 07:02:50 <DeaDTerra>	30k walls are now up on both BF and BTCT for anyone who wants to buy into GSDPT (S.DICE pass through) :)
Feb 03 07:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2724 @ 0.0006832 = 1.861 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 07:14:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0076 BTC [-]
Feb 03 07:15:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1837 @ 0.00066854 = 1.2281 BTC [-]
Feb 03 07:15:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1863 @ 0.00066733 = 1.2432 BTC [-]
Feb 03 07:22:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066734 = 6.6734 BTC [+]
Feb 03 07:25:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5006 @ 0.00066958 = 3.3519 BTC [+]
Feb 03 07:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1597 @ 0.0006832 = 1.0911 BTC [+]
Feb 03 07:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12154 @ 0.0006833 = 8.3048 BTC [+]
Feb 03 07:29:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006831 = 2.9517 BTC [-]
Feb 03 07:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1112 @ 0.0006833 = 0.7598 BTC [+]
Feb 03 07:29:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1725 @ 0.00068331 = 1.1787 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 07:31:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.81 = 4.05 BTC [-]
Feb 03 07:31:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.81 = 4.05 BTC [-]
Feb 03 07:33:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 07:36:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00068039 = 1.803 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 07:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1656 @ 0.00068331 = 1.1316 BTC [+]
Feb 03 07:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1671 @ 0.00068039 = 1.1369 BTC [-]
Feb 03 07:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4029 @ 0.00068023 = 2.7406 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 07:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068308 = 2.9516 BTC [+]
Feb 03 07:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29246 @ 0.00068331 = 19.9841 BTC [+]
Feb 03 07:59:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2933 @ 0.00068334 = 2.0042 BTC [+]
Feb 03 08:01:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 08:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068043 = 2.9401 BTC [-]
Feb 03 08:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.00068023 = 3.3869 BTC [-]
Feb 03 08:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068317 = 2.952 BTC [+]
Feb 03 08:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7347 @ 0.00068334 = 5.0205 BTC [+]
Feb 03 08:17:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 293 @ 0.00068334 = 0.2002 BTC [+]
Feb 03 08:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7408 @ 0.00068335 = 5.0623 BTC [+]
Feb 03 08:20:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 526 @ 0.0076 = 3.9976 BTC [-]
Feb 03 08:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5641 @ 0.00068023 = 3.8372 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 08:28:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0076 = 0.0228 BTC [-]
Feb 03 08:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066734 = 2.8836 BTC [-]
Feb 03 08:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13137 @ 0.00066733 = 8.7667 BTC [-]
Feb 03 08:31:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 842 @ 0.00066732 = 0.5619 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 08:45:28 <EskimoBob_afk>	DeaDTerra: do you mean, it's time to sell?
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Feb 03 08:50:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067424 = 2.9134 BTC [+]
Feb 03 08:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10365 @ 0.00067425 = 6.9886 BTC [+]
Feb 03 08:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066738 = 2.8837 BTC [-]
Feb 03 08:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066738 = 2.8837 BTC [-]
Feb 03 08:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066733 = 6.6733 BTC [-]
Feb 03 08:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5558 @ 0.00066732 = 3.709 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 09:23:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4194 @ 0.00067425 = 2.8278 BTC [+]
Feb 03 09:23:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068294 = 2.951 BTC [+]
Feb 03 09:23:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4885 @ 0.00068295 = 3.3362 BTC [+]
Feb 03 09:25:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.79811111 = 7.9811 BTC [-]
Feb 03 09:25:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [+]
Feb 03 09:25:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.82 = 2.46 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 09:30:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066733 = 2.8835 BTC [-]
Feb 03 09:30:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066733 = 6.6733 BTC [-]
Feb 03 09:30:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7720 @ 0.00066732 = 5.1517 BTC [-]
Feb 03 09:33:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066733 = 2.8835 BTC [+]
Feb 03 09:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1829 @ 0.00066732 = 1.2205 BTC [-]
Feb 03 09:34:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1662 @ 0.0076 = 12.6312 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 09:40:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1562 @ 0.0076 = 11.8712 BTC [-]
Feb 03 09:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5205 @ 0.0006823 = 3.5514 BTC [+]
Feb 03 09:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068283 = 2.9505 BTC [+]
Feb 03 09:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6624 @ 0.00068295 = 4.5239 BTC [+]
Feb 03 09:41:49 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Feb 03 09:41:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00703438 / 0.0073198 / 0.007395 (103771 shares, 759.58 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00731703 / 0.00749999 (650155 shares, 4,757.20 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.004984 / 0.0075 (6312291 shares, 31,460.47 BTC)
Feb 03 09:42:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Feb 03 09:47:57 <Bowjov>	Damn. My Ipod went thru the washer
Feb 03 09:47:59 <Bowjov>	RIP
Feb 03 09:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006819 = 2.9465 BTC [-]
Feb 03 09:48:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00068202 = 7.5704 BTC [+]
Feb 03 09:48:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4224 @ 0.00068295 = 2.8848 BTC [+]
Feb 03 09:48:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1755 @ 0.00068309 = 1.1988 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 09:55:35 <DeaDTerra>	<EskimoBob_afk> No, I am just expanding with more shares so if anyone want S.DICE shares you can buy it through the pass through :)
Feb 03 09:56:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00730924 = 10.5984 BTC [-]
Feb 03 09:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00068003 = 5.3722 BTC [-]
Feb 03 09:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2047 @ 0.00068299 = 1.3981 BTC [+]
Feb 03 10:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 999 @ 0.00739499 = 7.3876 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 10:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2527 @ 0.00067071 = 1.6949 BTC [-]
Feb 03 10:04:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0244 = 0.244 BTC [-]
Feb 03 10:04:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0244 = 0.244 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 10:07:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 125 @ 0.0245 = 3.0625 BTC [+]
Feb 03 10:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2274 @ 0.00068299 = 1.5531 BTC [+]
Feb 03 10:09:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9126 @ 0.00068309 = 6.2339 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 10:12:02 <thestringpuller>	The neurosurgeon returns
Feb 03 10:12:44 <Bugpowder>	Yo
Feb 03 10:13:07 <thestringpuller>	give me s.dice as a present
Feb 03 10:13:08 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Feb 03 10:18:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.0076 = 1.9 BTC [-]
Feb 03 10:20:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10963 @ 0.00068309 = 7.4887 BTC [+]
Feb 03 10:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00068156 = 2.4195 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 10:28:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 573 @ 0.00067527 = 0.3869 BTC [-]
Feb 03 10:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2827 @ 0.00066756 = 1.8872 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 10:33:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1494 @ 0.00066756 = 0.9973 BTC [-]
Feb 03 10:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4086 @ 0.00066732 = 2.7267 BTC [-]
Feb 03 10:34:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0076 = 0.38 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 10:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067566 = 2.9195 BTC [+]
Feb 03 10:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6619 @ 0.00067597 = 4.4742 BTC [+]
Feb 03 10:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3060 @ 0.00068053 = 2.0824 BTC [+]
Feb 03 10:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2826 @ 0.00068053 = 1.9232 BTC [+]
Feb 03 10:56:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7274 @ 0.00068129 = 4.9557 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 11:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 743 @ 0.00739499 = 5.4945 BTC [+]
Feb 03 11:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006753 = 2.918 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 11:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068101 = 2.9426 BTC [+]
Feb 03 11:13:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5193 @ 0.00068129 = 3.5379 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 11:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00067543 = 4.5929 BTC [-]
Feb 03 11:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.0006752 = 0.3376 BTC [-]
Feb 03 11:26:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3821 @ 0.0006752 = 2.5799 BTC [-]
Feb 03 11:26:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29979 @ 0.00067499 = 20.2355 BTC [-]
Feb 03 11:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067514 = 2.9173 BTC [+]
Feb 03 11:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9879 @ 0.00067499 = 6.6682 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 11:35:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068108 = 2.9429 BTC [+]
Feb 03 11:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7329 @ 0.00068129 = 4.9932 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 11:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068103 = 2.9427 BTC [-]
Feb 03 11:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.00068129 = 6.1854 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 11:59:21 <thestringpuller>	kakobreklaaa: Does BBET make "house bets"?
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Feb 03 12:05:42 <smickles>	;;ticker
Feb 03 12:05:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 19.95222, Best ask: 19.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04777, Last trade: 19.99999, 24 hour volume: 27460.22150849, 24 hour low: 19.31000, 24 hour high: 20.20000, 24 hour vwap: 19.88694
Feb 03 12:05:49 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 03 12:05:51 <gribble>	19.86
Feb 03 12:06:25 <Anduck>	thestringpuller: u cant know
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Feb 03 12:07:01 <mjr_>	hey bugpowder
Feb 03 12:07:10 <mjr_>	i built a cool little thing
Feb 03 12:07:31 <mjr_>	https://mega.co.nz/#!okpFSZ7B!cuclFyKX_j1C-Ub7LJoeRHM2OzREhD6camzHMQ60gnY
Feb 03 12:07:33 <mjr_>	here's a link
Feb 03 12:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	hey, anyone want to charge 10 bux on his cc for me ?
Feb 03 12:07:40 <mircea_popescu>	ill pay btc.
Feb 03 12:09:16 <mjr_>	bugpowder: you can check out my code if you want... https://mega.co.nz/#!pgJVRTIK!eZas-A-jyC2W0B6BYT43fn-GdjdmMAw7jyB5ckh-AZI
Feb 03 12:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3393 @ 0.00068129 = 2.3116 BTC [+]
Feb 03 12:11:29 <kakobreklaaa>	thestringpuller yes
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Feb 03 12:12:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 256 @ 0.00068309 = 0.1749 BTC [+]
Feb 03 12:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4844 @ 0.00068335 = 3.3101 BTC [+]
Feb 03 12:14:25 <Bugpowder>	that script looks exploitable.
Feb 03 12:15:09 <Bugpowder>	possibly
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Feb 03 12:17:37 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 03 12:17:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.10331, Best ask: 20.23999, Bid-ask spread: 0.13668, Last trade: 20.24000, 24 hour volume: 29151.83119077, 24 hour low: 19.31000, 24 hour high: 20.40000, 24 hour vwap: 19.91192
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Feb 03 12:18:04 <Bugpowder>	20.40
Feb 03 12:18:06 <Bugpowder>	noice
Feb 03 12:18:13 <Bugpowder>	time to start the rally again.
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Feb 03 12:19:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1007 @ 0.00739499 = 7.4468 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 12:23:53 <Bugpowder>	mjr_  oh nevermind that script doesn't actually place trades, just provides info.
Feb 03 12:23:56 <Bugpowder>	Cool.
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Feb 03 12:24:47 <Bugpowder>	I'm taking a break from bot dev for a few weeks.  I had good news in the job hunt process and need to devote 99% of my attention there.
Feb 03 12:25:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068147 = 2.9446 BTC [-]
Feb 03 12:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16079 @ 0.00068131 = 10.9548 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 12:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1526 @ 0.00739499 = 11.2848 BTC [+]
Feb 03 12:37:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.794 = 7.94 BTC [-]
Feb 03 12:39:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7945 = 3.178 BTC [+]
Feb 03 12:39:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7945 BTC [+]
Feb 03 12:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068327 = 2.9524 BTC [+]
Feb 03 12:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068334 = 3.4167 BTC [+]
Feb 03 12:40:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7499 @ 0.00068335 = 5.1244 BTC [+]
Feb 03 12:41:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.795 = 3.18 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 12:44:14 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 03 12:44:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.50000, Best ask: 20.52884, Bid-ask spread: 0.02884, Last trade: 20.55000, 24 hour volume: 31309.07006435, 24 hour low: 19.31000, 24 hour high: 20.60000, 24 hour vwap: 19.96266
Feb 03 12:44:18 <Bugpowder>	OH YEAH
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Feb 03 12:47:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 740 @ 0.00068131 = 0.5042 BTC [-]
Feb 03 12:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00067621 = 2.8739 BTC [-]
Feb 03 12:47:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000675 = 2.9167 BTC [-]
Feb 03 12:47:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9840 @ 0.00067499 = 6.6419 BTC [-]
Feb 03 12:51:14 <mjr_>	bugpowder: i need to set up an interface
Feb 03 12:51:31 <mjr_>	i think it would be relatively easy to give it that logic and use pympex
Feb 03 12:51:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3155 @ 0.00067523 = 2.1304 BTC [+]
Feb 03 12:51:52 <mjr_>	then just keep track of your orders using statjson i guess
Feb 03 12:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	is it 50 yet ?
Feb 03 12:52:56 <mjr_>	but since i don't have mpex yet i can't test it out
Feb 03 12:53:02 <mjr_>	but you are welcome to, or anyone else
Feb 03 12:53:16 <mjr_>	it works best late at night (not sure about timezone stuff)
Feb 03 12:54:40 <Bugpowder>	over 60
Feb 03 12:55:04 <thestringpuller>	why is the price volatile?
Feb 03 12:55:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 03 12:55:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.60438, Best ask: 20.60533, Bid-ask spread: 0.00095, Last trade: 20.60438, 24 hour volume: 32384.31332794, 24 hour low: 19.31000, 24 hour high: 20.60438, 24 hour vwap: 19.98742
Feb 03 12:55:19 <Bugpowder>	20.60
Feb 03 12:55:21 <Bugpowder>	that is
Feb 03 12:55:22 <mircea_popescu>	you know... if bitcoin was a girl 20'd be a very good place to be.
Feb 03 12:55:23 <thestringpuller>	I had like 4 people from school come ask me about bitcoin yesterday...
Feb 03 12:55:30 <Bugpowder>	YUP
Feb 03 12:55:43 <thestringpuller>	Also my local bar wants to accept bitcoin...
Feb 03 12:55:52 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin is mainstream now?
Feb 03 12:56:01 <Bugpowder>	not yet
Feb 03 12:56:19 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: my ip changed so your paywall is neglecting me
Feb 03 12:56:54 <thestringpuller>	;)
Feb 03 12:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Feb 03 12:58:14 <mircea_popescu>	not mainstream yet but getting sluttier by the week
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Feb 03 12:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	sort of like the sophomore collegiate.
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Feb 03 12:59:01 <thestringpuller>	wtf college did you go to?
Feb 03 12:59:18 <thestringpuller>	I got laid once in all of college
Feb 03 12:59:29 <thestringpuller>	so I feel I was lied to about the "liberal girls"
Feb 03 12:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	i pretty much went to whore school.
Feb 03 12:59:48 <thestringpuller>	and there are no little mircea's running around?
Feb 03 12:59:57 <smickles>	thestringpuller: you're about the same age as me, right?
Feb 03 13:00:07 <thestringpuller>	yea
Feb 03 13:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik.
Feb 03 13:00:21 <smickles>	hmm, how did you not get laid as much as you wanted to?
Feb 03 13:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	he prolly didn't ask.
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Feb 03 13:00:58 <thestringpuller>	too busy trying to code and make money
Feb 03 13:01:04 <thestringpuller>	hustling + getting laid don't go together
Feb 03 13:01:07 <thestringpuller>	unless you're a pimp
Feb 03 13:01:13 <thestringpuller>	then it's part of the business model
Feb 03 13:01:17 <smickles>	heh, now that I think of it, that was a fairly good pickup line. "do you want to have sex over there?"
Feb 03 13:01:47 <thestringpuller>	I need to go to the country towns and pick up hot farm girls.
Feb 03 13:02:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9691 @ 0.00068146 = 6.604 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:02:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 944 @ 0.00067523 = 0.6374 BTC [-]
Feb 03 13:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	smickles being recently out of a shower is all the pick-up line you need
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Feb 03 13:03:24 <smickles>	i dunno. I often waited untill a girl complimented my hair, and that most often came after not showering for a day or so
Feb 03 13:03:48 <thestringpuller>	smickles: I feel like you were married in college :P
Feb 03 13:04:09 <smickles>	just after
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Feb 03 13:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2049 @ 0.00068335 = 1.4002 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068368 = 2.9542 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:06:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 930 @ 0.00068369 = 0.6358 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	well, in some application one day is recently.
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Feb 03 13:10:55 <thestringpuller>	everyone is getting married and having children
Feb 03 13:10:58 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu are you saying that basically being clean is sexually arousing?
Feb 03 13:11:02 <thestringpuller>	while I'm just here masturbating
Feb 03 13:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham you ever been around college dorms ?
Feb 03 13:11:47 <jcpham>	never ever ever
Feb 03 13:12:09 <mircea_popescu>	in many cases just not being filthy is sufficient competitive advantage.
Feb 03 13:12:16 <jcpham>	except for when i stayed in the dorms in college
Feb 03 13:12:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.79252525 = 3.9626 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 13:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7732 @ 0.00068369 = 5.2863 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8518 @ 0.00068398 = 5.8261 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 13:14:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 222 @ 0.00067523 = 0.1499 BTC [-]
Feb 03 13:14:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.35 = 3.5 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00067504 = 1.1476 BTC [-]
Feb 03 13:14:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000675 = 2.9167 BTC [-]
Feb 03 13:14:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2457 @ 0.00067499 = 1.6585 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 13:15:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1482 @ 0.00068398 = 1.0137 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:15:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068432 = 2.9569 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:15:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00068433 = 4.3455 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:15:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3147 @ 0.00068507 = 2.1559 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 13:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/so-whats-the-plan-with-mpoempex/ btw, if anyone missed it.
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Feb 03 13:25:39 <jcpham>	i like how the citations have links to nude girls
Feb 03 13:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00068502 = 1.1645 BTC [-]
Feb 03 13:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068503 = 2.96 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4595 @ 0.00068507 = 3.1479 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2708 @ 0.00068507 = 1.8552 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10210 @ 0.00068507 = 6.9946 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:31:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.88 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	one must have slipped in
Feb 03 13:31:55 <mircea_popescu>	o, you mean the salo screencap ?
Feb 03 13:34:40 <FabianB_>	"It is perhaps worth nothing that various observers.." <-- i think there's a t too much in "nothing"
Feb 03 13:35:13 <mircea_popescu>	you mean a h
Feb 03 13:35:55 <Namworld>	I was about to point out the h
Feb 03 13:36:18 <mircea_popescu>	ty to teh both of you. fixed.
Feb 03 13:36:27 <mircea_popescu>	i mean te bot of you
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Feb 03 13:37:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 13.88 = 27.76 BTC [+]
Feb 03 13:39:10 <Namworld>	the website might go? How would we know the order book?
Feb 03 13:39:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1360 @ 0.0074 = 10.064 BTC [-]
Feb 03 13:39:26 <Namworld>	JSON API would stay?
Feb 03 13:40:10 <mircea_popescu>	prolly end up with dedicated terminals
Feb 03 13:44:59 <Namworld>	Eh, why not keep MPEx indefinitly
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Feb 03 13:47:48 <mircea_popescu>	sooner or later data feeds would be leased, some sort of equivalent of bloomberg will spring up
Feb 03 13:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Feb 03 13:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15263 @ 0.00067546 = 10.3095 BTC [-]
Feb 03 13:48:59 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea, i'm speculating.
Feb 03 13:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00735414 = 2.2062 BTC [-]
Feb 03 13:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1524 @ 0.00735413 = 11.2077 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 13:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/blog/Hantol-PSU-Fake-PFC-Made-of-cement/220
Feb 03 13:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty out there.
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Feb 03 14:01:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6564 @ 0.00067546 = 4.4337 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9790 @ 0.00068507 = 6.7068 BTC [+]
Feb 03 14:02:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5133 @ 0.0006852 = 3.5171 BTC [+]
Feb 03 14:02:32 <Ukto_>	lol nice link
Feb 03 14:03:05 <mircea_popescu>	cement dude
Feb 03 14:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	the new supermaterial from china
Feb 03 14:03:13 <Ukto_>	yeah, thats messed
Feb 03 14:03:28 <Ukto_>	wold be pissed to pay s/h for that
Feb 03 14:03:29 <Ukto_>	:P
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Feb 03 14:07:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 120 @ 0.0245 = 2.94 BTC [+]
Feb 03 14:07:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 743 @ 0.00735413 = 5.4641 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:09:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.0245 = 0.735 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 14:14:51 <jurov>	hi all
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Feb 03 14:15:12 <jurov>	mjr_ lol there is a front runner on mpoe for long time...it doesn't even try to conceal itself
Feb 03 14:15:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 830 @ 0.00739499 = 6.1378 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 14:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 33 @ 0.00735413 = 0.2427 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 267 @ 0.00733496 = 1.9584 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 14:22:10 <smickles>	oh
Feb 03 14:22:12 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1499197#msg1499197
Feb 03 14:22:14 <smickles>	lol
Feb 03 14:23:32 <jurov>	mjr_ and coinbr api isn't planned in near future, sorry. i just concluded whole thing isn't ready
Feb 03 14:23:46 <Ukto_>	"Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later."
Feb 03 14:23:52 <Ukto_>	cant access bitcointalk smickles  :)
Feb 03 14:24:27 <smickles>	Ukto_: it's usagi saying that he did a fundamental anal. of s.dice, and it's worth .5 btc per share
Feb 03 14:24:52 <Ukto_>	lol
Feb 03 14:25:00 <Ukto_>	and your opinion of that is ? :P
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Feb 03 14:25:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.0246 = 0.2706 BTC [+]
Feb 03 14:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 383 @ 0.00733496 = 2.8093 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:25:17 <smickles>	that guy has a proven record of valuing bitcoind denomenated assets
Feb 03 14:25:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 470 @ 0.00728282 = 3.4229 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:25:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 835 @ 0.0072416 = 6.0467 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:25:32 <smickles>	0 for 12, or so
Feb 03 14:25:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 17 @ 0.0247 = 0.4199 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 14:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	502 Bad Gateway
Feb 03 14:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	forum rox
Feb 03 14:26:44 <Ukto_>	same
Feb 03 14:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	smickles lol
Feb 03 14:27:35 <Ukto_>	mircea_popescu: would be interested in your opinion when/if the forums come back
Feb 03 14:27:53 <mircea_popescu>	re what ?
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Feb 03 14:28:09 <Ukto_>	as for sites that work. apparently someone agrees with usagi
Feb 03 14:28:10 <Ukto_>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.SDICE
Feb 03 14:28:13 <Ukto_>	look at todays trades
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Feb 03 14:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	what about it ?
Feb 03 14:29:39 <Ukto_>	alot of traes for today
Feb 03 14:29:41 <Ukto_>	for sdice
Feb 03 14:29:48 <Ukto_>	volume wise
Feb 03 14:29:54 <Ukto_>	the div day was one thing
Feb 03 14:30:00 <kakobreklaaa>	we wouldnt know cause assbot.
Feb 03 14:30:02 <Ukto_>	but this is about 2x avg already
Feb 03 14:30:07 <kakobreklaaa>	hehe
Feb 03 14:30:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067506 = 2.9169 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:30:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1748 @ 0.000675 = 1.1799 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:30:13 <kakobreklaaa>	bbl
Feb 03 14:30:14 <Ukto_>	kako: LOL
Feb 03 14:30:18 <Ukto_>	dont wrry
Feb 03 14:30:22 <Ukto_>	api will be opening up more soon
Feb 03 14:30:40 <kakobreklaaa>	what does that have to do anything with it
Feb 03 14:30:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.011 = 1.1 BTC [+]
Feb 03 14:30:58 <smickles>	that chart ain't half bad Ukto_
Feb 03 14:31:09 <Ukto_>	besides, I would hate to flood the channel with BF's massive trades (eyes roll) :P
Feb 03 14:31:15 <Bugpowder>	I will sell for 1/2 of usagi's valuation
Feb 03 14:31:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.89 BTC [+]
Feb 03 14:31:33 <Ukto_>	thanks, I was debating adding some more details to it one the other 'things' are done I todl you about
Feb 03 14:31:48 <Ukto_>	the first one is more than halfway now. might get it released tomorrow if I am lucky hehe
Feb 03 14:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, this is pretty juicy : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell
Feb 03 14:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	After his April 2000 release, Bell publicly announced that he believed that there was extensive Federal Government corruption associated with his 1997–2000 criminal case, and that he was going to research the facts and file a lawsuit. Bell filed this lawsuit in 2003.[5] Bell was put under heavy surveillance and rearrested for harassment and stalking of federal agents. He was charged with intimidation and stalking and
Feb 03 14:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	 was convicted and again imprisoned, this time for a decade-long sentence. Bell protested vociferously against the conduct of the trial, going so far as to file civil lawsuits against two judges, at least two prosecutors, his former probation officers, and his defense attorneys, but ultimately to no avail.
Feb 03 14:32:29 <smickles>	Ukto_: gl :)
Feb 03 14:32:33 <DeaDTerra1>	what's up with the forums ...
Feb 03 14:32:41 <DeaDTerra1>	there has been a lot of downtime recently ...
Feb 03 14:33:18 <EskimoBob_afk>	DeaDTerra1: less time you spend over there, better it is :)
Feb 03 14:33:24 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: a lesson in freedom?
Feb 03 14:34:06 <EskimoBob_afk>	smickles: good question to ask from romanian pervert
Feb 03 14:34:18 <Ukto_>	forums back up
Feb 03 14:34:39 <smickles>	Ukto_: does news show up in the chart in a similar way the dividend does?
Feb 03 14:34:46 <Ukto_>	was.
Feb 03 14:34:58 <Ukto_>	smickles: thats one of the things I am looking to add
Feb 03 14:35:06 <Ukto_>	wont be hard at all
Feb 03 14:35:18 <Ukto_>	Going to be adding user preferences
Feb 03 14:35:23 <Ukto_>	to hide/show news, as well as divs
Feb 03 14:35:40 <Ukto_>	and to set default views
Feb 03 14:35:51 <Ukto_>	as well as localized time dispays
Feb 03 14:35:57 <smickles>	EskimoBob_afk: i'm having a tough time 'catcing your drift'. could you rephrase that or elaborate?
Feb 03 14:36:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 13.9 = 41.7 BTC [+]
Feb 03 14:36:17 <DeaDTerra1>	Someone bought another 10k of S.DICE pass through shares on BF :D
Feb 03 14:36:19 <Ukto_>	smickles: sounds like a virus.
Feb 03 14:36:33 <Ukto_>	DeaDTerra1: was just talking about that
Feb 03 14:36:44 <EskimoBob_afk>	now I am hungry http://luxirare.com/torched-sushi/
Feb 03 14:36:48 <DeaDTerra1>	forums are back
Feb 03 14:36:55 <Ukto_>	DeaDTerra1: its cool that I can use BF's webirc via my phone LOL
Feb 03 14:37:06 <DeaDTerra1>	haha nice ^^
Feb 03 14:37:32 <Ukto_>	thats how lame I am. bored at parents waiting on them
Feb 03 14:37:49 <Bugpowder>	That looks delicious
Feb 03 14:37:53 <jurov>	DeaDTerra1, you still doing arb manually?
Feb 03 14:38:21 <Ukto_>	spekaing of that terra
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Feb 03 14:43:59 <smickles>	out of context, terra sounds like a euphemism for ass
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Feb 03 14:45:45 <Ukto_>	cant be
Feb 03 14:45:49 <Ukto_>	no one ever calls me terra
Feb 03 14:45:53 <Ukto_>	:P
Feb 03 14:45:59 <Namworld>	yeah, you forgot to upkeep your passthrough
Feb 03 14:46:17 <Namworld>	Shares were selling too high
Feb 03 14:46:37 <Ukto_>	think he only charges for divs
Feb 03 14:48:06 <Namworld>	He also charges a margin for shares he sells
Feb 03 14:49:25 <Namworld>	I'm seriously thinking I should just compete.
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Feb 03 14:53:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20252 @ 0.000675 = 13.6701 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:53:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6377 @ 0.00067499 = 4.3044 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:53:56 <Namworld>	Why aren't people using coinbr?
Feb 03 14:54:25 <jurov>	i heard they can't afford 0.09 BTC/month
Feb 03 14:54:41 <Ukto_>	they do
Feb 03 14:54:52 <Ukto_>	still, plenty of ppl like it.
Feb 03 14:54:56 <Ukto_>	I do.
Feb 03 14:55:03 <Ukto_>	I was debating using it to buy some bbet hehe
Feb 03 14:55:04 <smickles>	lol, blockchain.info just gave me an error
Feb 03 14:55:09 <smickles>	"Bitcoin not defined"
Feb 03 14:55:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 49 @ 0.00739 = 0.3621 BTC [+]
Feb 03 14:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00738104 = 7.381 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:55:42 <jurov>	yeah they'are amusing.. i got windows xp booting gif the other day
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Feb 03 14:55:53 <Ukto_>	0,o
Feb 03 14:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	frame it!
Feb 03 14:56:03 <smickles>	heh, i got that once
Feb 03 14:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5871 @ 0.00067499 = 3.9629 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006726 = 2.9063 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13025 @ 0.00067259 = 8.7605 BTC [-]
Feb 03 14:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2231 @ 0.00067232 = 1.4999 BTC [-]
Feb 03 15:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006817 = 2.9456 BTC [+]
Feb 03 15:02:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00068187 = 3.6678 BTC [+]
Feb 03 15:05:03 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 03 15:05:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.66002, Best ask: 20.73900, Bid-ask spread: 0.07898, Last trade: 20.73900, 24 hour volume: 31522.03367265, 24 hour low: 19.42000, 24 hour high: 20.75000, 24 hour vwap: 20.10086
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Feb 03 15:10:29 <jurov>	http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=bitcoin << hilarious
Feb 03 15:13:08 <thestringpuller>	charging 21 again eh?
Feb 03 15:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	wolfram alp[ha is retarded
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Feb 03 15:19:32 <smickles>	;;-22/(.11962553-1)
Feb 03 15:19:34 <gribble>	Error: "-22/(.11962553-1)" is not a valid command.
Feb 03 15:19:36 <smickles>	;;calc -22/(.11962553-1)
Feb 03 15:19:37 <gribble>	24.9893661728
Feb 03 15:21:14 <mjr_>	hey all
Feb 03 15:21:42 <dub>	is it suberb owl sunday?
Feb 03 15:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067348 = 2.9101 BTC [-]
Feb 03 15:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 579 @ 0.00067347 = 0.3899 BTC [-]
Feb 03 15:22:45 <mod6>	dub: yup
Feb 03 15:23:18 <mjr_>	is jurov still here?
Feb 03 15:23:28 <jurov>	nope
Feb 03 15:23:32 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 03 15:23:37 <mjr_>	look at mpoe...
Feb 03 15:23:52 <mjr_>	1.22% spread...what is the bot doing?
Feb 03 15:24:02 <Ukto_>	false hope?
Feb 03 15:24:03 <mjr_>	or is the bot there
Feb 03 15:24:31 <jurov>	why would i, or the bot, want tight spread?
Feb 03 15:24:38 <mjr_>	just curious
Feb 03 15:24:50 <dub>	http://i.imgur.com/PVAKKNH.jpg?1
Feb 03 15:25:34 <thestringpuller>	jurov: because a tight anus is less likely to get raped?
Feb 03 15:25:39 <mjr_>	i would obviously need to have it use pympex
Feb 03 15:26:29 <mjr_>	but there is still profit there...and i set it so that if you put a lot of volume, i go a satoshi cheaper...if it is thin in front, i wait behind for extra satoshi
Feb 03 15:26:42 <mjr_>	and yesterday, when i was watching
Feb 03 15:26:51 <jurov>	mjr_ what you would do with big price movements?
Feb 03 15:26:53 <mjr_>	it wasn't close to the next higher or lower price
Feb 03 15:27:26 <jurov>	they are quite common and usually cause simple frontrunners to get stuck on wrong end
Feb 03 15:27:33 <mjr_>	the stock is not too much...and although over its life it has moved a lot
Feb 03 15:27:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068184 = 2.9462 BTC [+]
Feb 03 15:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7329 @ 0.00068187 = 4.9974 BTC [+]
Feb 03 15:27:55 <mjr_>	it doesn't seem like it is moving a ton, but of course, if i get filled on one end, i cancel orders and reassess
Feb 03 15:28:23 <mjr_>	again, until i actually register on mpex its all academic
Feb 03 15:28:54 <mjr_>	also the ultimate goal is not so much to scalp and front run, but rather build up as long a position as i can for the least money
Feb 03 15:28:59 <jurov>	you will reassssess and find out that bid is is higher than last sell price.. what now?
Feb 03 15:29:07 <mjr_>	so i would weight it's priority to buy and sell accordingly
Feb 03 15:29:52 <mjr_>	as long as you are getting more than .4% (buy and sell) you are making money...
Feb 03 15:30:09 <jurov>	i guess.
Feb 03 15:30:13 <mjr_>	although currently i am running it with .5% to ttest
Feb 03 15:30:25 <mjr_>	on each side (to mirror coinbr)
Feb 03 15:30:33 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 03 15:30:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.48947, Best ask: 20.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.00853, Last trade: 20.49800, 24 hour volume: 32327.68690484, 24 hour low: 19.42000, 24 hour high: 20.75000, 24 hour vwap: 20.12431
Feb 03 15:31:39 <mjr_>	was sad to find out no api
Feb 03 15:31:41 <jurov>	and as for the api, i'd really like it... but having the orders count suddenly increase 10x is just too big risk
Feb 03 15:31:50 <mjr_>	good point
Feb 03 15:32:13 <mjr_>	couldn't you set a limit on order number through api?
Feb 03 15:32:24 <mjr_>	x per hour
Feb 03 15:32:25 <mjr_>	or whatever
Feb 03 15:32:52 <mjr_>	i think the main way to do this would be with the options...the spreads are regularly 33%-50%
Feb 03 15:32:58 <jurov>	that wouldn't exactly be the problem. suppose it blows up when i'm not around
Feb 03 15:33:06 <mjr_>	yeah that is my worry too
Feb 03 15:33:16 <mjr_>	i am gonna give my little guy only a little money to play with
Feb 03 15:33:20 <jurov>	human will usually notice that the order got stuck.. bot no
Feb 03 15:33:25 <mjr_>	true
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Feb 03 15:33:34 <mjr_>	that is the one part that i will have to test very rigorously
Feb 03 15:33:39 <mjr_>	maintaining positions
Feb 03 15:33:48 <mjr_>	since i am responsible to ask constantly
Feb 03 15:34:06 <jurov>	i tested my bot several months... and still occassionally does snafu
Feb 03 15:34:12 <mjr_>	yeah true
Feb 03 15:34:27 <mjr_>	it happens to billion dollar companies (knight capital)
Feb 03 15:34:58 <mjr_>	but, as long as they are not killer mistakes (don't let the machine manage more than you can risk), you can fix it and make it stronger
Feb 03 15:35:07 <mjr_>	knight almost went under on one bad day...
Feb 03 15:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	im curiouswhat results smickles comes up for his optiosn bot
Feb 03 15:35:40 <mjr_>	the volume is the part i haven't really figured out how to adjust for
Feb 03 15:36:02 <mjr_>	but overall, if i can say that in any given situation i am getting the best possible price, that is ok
Feb 03 15:36:13 <jurov>	mjr_i did options, too. but you can wait like weeks till there's som movement
Feb 03 15:36:54 <jurov>	maybe it got better since, but still they don't appear often in the ticker
Feb 03 15:37:09 <mjr_>	yeah, but i mean, i can say get 5 $20 calls...at 1 satoshi over current, and then if i ever get filled, just replace that order and then open up sell at 1 satoshi beneath
Feb 03 15:37:14 <Bugpowder>	nothing happening in options this month
Feb 03 15:37:16 <Bugpowder>	NOTHING
Feb 03 15:37:17 <jurov>	but if they do everyone watches alertly :D
Feb 03 15:37:17 <mjr_>	i dn't care about 5 contracts so mucnh
Feb 03 15:37:24 <Bugpowder>	only me buying a bunch of calls
Feb 03 15:37:37 <mjr_>	its just that over the rest of the year, everyone sending market order will give me a tiny bit of money
Feb 03 15:37:43 <Bugpowder>	smickles trading a few here and there
Feb 03 15:37:59 <Bugpowder>	and my bot selling 1000s contracts to itself
Feb 03 15:37:59 <mjr_>	(if the bot is designed well)
Feb 03 15:38:18 <Bugpowder>	the bot is no longer on automatic mode :-P
Feb 03 15:38:19 <mjr_>	i think i am going to keep track of individual fill prices, so i can know if i should sell or not
Feb 03 15:38:35 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 03 15:38:36 <mjr_>	ie. sell THOSE shares that i got cheap, but no more
Feb 03 15:38:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.48948, Best ask: 20.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.00852, Last trade: 20.49800, 24 hour volume: 32329.47027016, 24 hour low: 19.42000, 24 hour high: 20.75000, 24 hour vwap: 20.12737
Feb 03 15:38:37 <Bugpowder>	Someone also bought some expensive puts
Feb 03 15:38:48 <Bugpowder>	it will heat up in a week or two though
Feb 03 15:39:00 <mjr_>	yeah, its funny cuz everyone waits till the end
Feb 03 15:39:04 <jurov>	mjr_really, how much do you willing to pay for ability to just doing it by simple select?
Feb 03 15:39:15 <jurov>	go to coinbr.com/about, last paragraph
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Feb 03 15:39:41 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder it barely started.
Feb 03 15:39:41 <Bugpowder>	http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pension-funds-sue-blackrock-allege-192257561.html
Feb 03 15:39:47 <Bugpowder>	what a surprise
Feb 03 15:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	were some puts too iirc
Feb 03 15:39:58 <Bugpowder>	blackrock buys iShares
Feb 03 15:40:14 <Bugpowder>	changees fee structure to take 40%
Feb 03 15:40:18 <Bugpowder>	of return
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Feb 03 15:40:36 <Bugpowder>	Glad nobody is big enough to buy Vanguard.
Feb 03 15:40:48 <mjr_>	LOL
Feb 03 15:40:52 <mjr_>	look at last sentence...
Feb 03 15:41:10 <mjr_>	they are made because they are looting returns...best performer in their portfolio
Feb 03 15:41:16 <mjr_>	i wonder why
Feb 03 15:41:37 <mjr_>	do you mean select SQL command?
Feb 03 15:41:51 <jurov>	yes
Feb 03 15:42:08 <mjr_>	would be nice i suppose, but parsing sql and parsing json is about the same effort
Feb 03 15:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	The Laborers' Local 265 Pension Fund of Cincinnati and the Plumbers and Pipefitters Local No. 572 Pension Fund of Nashville
Feb 03 15:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	that sounds hot.
Feb 03 15:42:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.7 BTC [+]
Feb 03 15:42:41 <mjr_>	i would mostly just like an ack on order being received, and then an execution be sent if i got filled
Feb 03 15:42:51 <mjr_>	that would be awesome
Feb 03 15:43:12 <mjr_>	so i could build that engine to monitor my account and then update my positions and orders table
Feb 03 15:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you open coinbr to what, direct sql access ?
Feb 03 15:43:36 <mjr_>	i think he was referring to licensing code to me
Feb 03 15:43:38 <jurov>	no. that paragraph says "licensing the code"
Feb 03 15:43:41 <mjr_>	or having me contribute in some way
Feb 03 15:43:49 <mjr_>	which i think would be awesome
Feb 03 15:44:14 <mjr_>	i mean, i mostly wrote the spread finder cuz it was fun
Feb 03 15:44:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.79353535 = 2.3806 BTC [+]
Feb 03 15:44:17 <mjr_>	and i was curious
Feb 03 15:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4879 @ 0.00067347 = 3.2859 BTC [-]
Feb 03 15:44:43 <mjr_>	python is easy and it is a nice way to try a PoC
Feb 03 15:45:05 <mjr_>	not sure about execution time etc, but i don't think i need to whip out the c++ yet, do I?
Feb 03 15:45:17 <jurov>	PoC - proof of concept?
Feb 03 15:45:21 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 15:45:29 <mjr_>	i wanted to see if the crazy spreads i saw last night were real
Feb 03 15:45:36 <mjr_>	and if i could monitor them in real time
Feb 03 15:45:36 <jurov>	c++ is not necessary
Feb 03 15:45:41 <mjr_>	didn't think so
Feb 03 15:46:17 <mjr_>	after that point, it would only be creating a position monitor, and then linking to a driver for pympex (or something at coinbr)
Feb 03 15:46:40 <mjr_>	i would have to write the position monitor, and i would have to write a driver so my orders could be translated to mpex orders
Feb 03 15:46:53 <jurov>	have you seen mpexagent?
Feb 03 15:46:57 <mjr_>	not yet
Feb 03 15:47:03 <mjr_>	but i will look at it :)
Feb 03 15:47:26 <jurov>	it's jsonrpc "driver" for mpex
Feb 03 15:47:30 <mjr_>	i mean, IDEALLY you could then use a lot of those pieces to build either a web based trading platform or an actual desktop application
Feb 03 15:47:52 <mjr_>	which i think would be a huge value to the trading community
Feb 03 15:48:18 <Lyspooner>	fuck is cool.  That guy ain't.  Shhhhiiitttt.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckfBGdZoR_0
Feb 03 15:48:38 <mjr_>	ie. integrated charts, depth of book, ticker, positions, executions, real time p&l
Feb 03 15:48:43 <jurov>	i was thinking about adding fileserving fo mpexagent
Feb 03 15:48:54 <mjr_>	i am gonna look at the code now
Feb 03 15:48:58 <mjr_>	is it in python?
Feb 03 15:49:01 <jurov>	yes
Feb 03 15:49:04 <jurov>	plus twisted
Feb 03 15:49:08 <mjr_>	sweet, nice!
Feb 03 15:49:21 <mjr_>	i used django with python in my last web based project
Feb 03 15:49:30 <mjr_>	but i like twisted a lot
Feb 03 15:49:56 <mjr_>	my app wasn't performance oriented but rather i wanted the easy UI admin from django
Feb 03 15:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner heh.
Feb 03 15:50:44 <jurov>	well. so after it will be able to serve files, one just throw there some javascript that can do jsonrpc calls
Feb 03 15:50:59 <jurov>	user goes to http://localhost:1077/
Feb 03 15:51:04 <jurov>	bam, nice mpex UI
Feb 03 15:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	for the record, i think that guy must be posting out of about half the btctalk accounts
Feb 03 15:51:50 <mjr_>	yeah i figured it'd be easiest to use web so i wouldn't have to actually create charts in a desktop app
Feb 03 15:51:55 <mjr_>	which would not be fun i think
Feb 03 15:52:09 <mjr_>	i wanted to play with angular.js
Feb 03 15:52:20 <mjr_>	which i think would be PERFECT for a web based trading platform
Feb 03 15:53:06 <mjr_>	in fact, if you made that interface, you could actually use selenium for your trading bot, which would be pretty cool
Feb 03 15:53:31 <mjr_>	edit: i mean a browser based trading platform
Feb 03 15:54:10 <jurov>	nice! so far it looked like everyone is too lazy and i'll have to add it to the agent myself
Feb 03 15:55:12 <mjr_>	did you look at angular?
Feb 03 15:55:19 <mjr_>	and if you want any help on it, i'm down
Feb 03 15:55:27 <mjr_>	also is your bot running right now?
Feb 03 15:55:33 <jurov>	it is
Feb 03 15:55:40 <mjr_>	if so, why would it not just go 1 satoshi in front or behind
Feb 03 15:55:43 <jurov>	and i didn't looked on angular
Feb 03 15:55:55 <mjr_>	i'm just curious
Feb 03 15:56:06 <mjr_>	and i was referring to mpoe
Feb 03 15:56:08 <jurov>	it was originally intended for random stress testing
Feb 03 15:56:13 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 15:56:30 <mjr_>	just curious how you came up with bid/ask prices is all
Feb 03 15:56:42 <jurov>	and i kept it so, i think it discourages others from jumping in front of it
Feb 03 15:57:07 <mjr_>	i think i just said "if volume less than 5000, go 1 satoshi behind, else go 1 satoshi in front
Feb 03 15:57:38 <jurov>	you're close. actually it goes deeper ;)
Feb 03 15:57:44 <mjr_>	so that way if you have a small order, i am reasonably sure i'd get filled after you for one satoshi more
Feb 03 15:57:55 <mjr_>	yours goes deeper
Feb 03 15:58:00 <mjr_>	mine doesn't yet
Feb 03 15:58:08 <mjr_>	but i would find it very interesting to see them interact
Feb 03 15:58:20 <Bugpowder>	What next?  "Hopefully some SURFIN.
Feb 03 15:58:28 <mjr_>	i put my code up earlier if anyone wanted to look
Feb 03 15:58:34 <mjr_>	its like 15 lines or something
Feb 03 15:58:37 <mjr_>	nothing special
Feb 03 15:58:44 <mjr_>	but you may need to install some libraries for it to work
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Feb 03 15:59:29 <mjr_>	actually, i think that mirceau_popescu's idea behind his trading platform could be huge
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Feb 03 16:00:10 <mjr_>	it could greatly simplify user interface, make a more robust system that is more secure, and easier to maintain, less vulnerable to single point of failure problems
Feb 03 16:00:10 <jurov>	seems he enjoys bein calles mirceaU
Feb 03 16:00:17 <mjr_>	sorry bad typist
Feb 03 16:00:17 <jurov>	*being called
Feb 03 16:00:23 <jurov>	:)
Feb 03 16:00:28 <mjr_>	but i do try my best
Feb 03 16:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067371 = 2.9111 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00067347 = 1.9389 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:00:50 <mjr_>	lol the spread is actually increasing on mpoe
Feb 03 16:01:21 <mjr_>	it is so much fun to watch this
Feb 03 16:01:50 <jurov>	i think both mircea and coinbr's fees in fact affect order size distribution
Feb 03 16:02:04 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 16:02:06 <mjr_>	i think so too
Feb 03 16:02:08 <jurov>	so unlike irl exchanges, small orders are rare
Feb 03 16:02:15 <mjr_>	but i account for fees
Feb 03 16:02:21 <mjr_>	and i don't think the fees are very high
Feb 03 16:02:33 <mjr_>	.2% or .5% is very small
Feb 03 16:02:42 <mjr_>	and its a fixed cost
Feb 03 16:03:25 <mjr_>	so with 1.24% on mpoe... i can make .84% every trade by basically just filling market orders
Feb 03 16:03:52 <mjr_>	.24% if i am going through coinbr
Feb 03 16:04:24 <mjr_>	and as i said, since my goal is to acquire a long position over time at the lowest possible price...
Feb 03 16:04:36 <mjr_>	it is not very risky (i want to get in the position)
Feb 03 16:05:12 <mjr_>	the options can be a bit trickier cuz they seem to be pretty thinly traded
Feb 03 16:05:24 <mjr_>	but if you buy the puts and the calls...
Feb 03 16:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 3 @ 0.10526446 = 0.3158 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:05:46 <mjr_>	you are pretty well hedged
Feb 03 16:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 2 @ 0.12907935 = 0.2582 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:06:03 <mjr_>	ooh, i just thought about designing a risk monitor
Feb 03 16:06:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 3 @ 0.12665781 = 0.38 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:06:47 <mjr_>	(really should have one for any kind of automated system)
Feb 03 16:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C210T] 1 @ 0.10492991 BTC
Feb 03 16:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P210T] 1 @ 0.15161796 BTC
Feb 03 16:08:15 <mjr_>	jurov: why would a fixed percentage fee affect size of orders? you gain nothing by increasing your volume
Feb 03 16:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4538 @ 0.00068187 = 3.0943 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068238 = 2.9486 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00068239 = 7.711 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:50 <jurov>	no, the 30BTC /0.09monthly does it i think
Feb 03 16:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00068518 = 6.8518 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1538 @ 0.0006852 = 1.0538 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16951 @ 0.00068521 = 11.615 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7578 @ 0.00068535 = 5.1936 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00068562 = 5.9306 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00068615 = 7.925 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.0006867 = 5.2189 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00068689 = 13.3944 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13620 @ 0.00068695 = 9.3563 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13424 @ 0.00068711 = 9.2238 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59200 @ 0.00068749 = 40.6994 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00068849 = 12.3928 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:04 <mjr_>	wow big order
Feb 03 16:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00068941 = 9.4449 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:06 <jurov>	eh?
Feb 03 16:09:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00068953 = 3.0339 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:11 <mjr_>	spread jumped a ton
Feb 03 16:09:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16994 @ 0.00068955 = 11.7182 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00068968 = 3.3305 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29320 @ 0.00069 = 20.2308 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13485 @ 0.00069027 = 9.3083 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00069193 = 1.6606 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00069255 = 9.2109 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00069336 = 1.0054 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00069339 = 12.9664 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14961 @ 0.0006935 = 10.3755 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00069366 = 9.1563 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.0006937 = 4.5784 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00069419 = 4.8593 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00069428 = 12.9136 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00069526 = 4.4149 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:10:00 <mjr_>	oh but yeah that is fixed, if you are going to be a trader, and i paid a one time/ or monthly fee
Feb 03 16:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00069574 = 4.4875 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 491 @ 0.00069577 = 0.3416 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 151 @ 0.00725041 = 1.0948 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4895 @ 0.00739499 = 36.1985 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:10:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 114954 @ 0.007395 = 850.0848 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:10:13 <mjr_>	i would make as many trades as possible to maximize my investment
Feb 03 16:10:24 <kakobreklaaa>	jeez.
Feb 03 16:10:47 <mjr_>	how'd the bot do jurov?
Feb 03 16:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	heh. when s.dice moves it moves.
Feb 03 16:11:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00067544 = 3.9176 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:11:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006955 = 3.0053 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069569 = 3.0061 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16526 @ 0.00069577 = 11.4983 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7625 @ 0.00069638 = 5.3099 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00069643 = 2.4027 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:31 <jurov>	you see how it is
Feb 03 16:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00069732 = 13.8069 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5246 @ 0.00069745 = 3.6588 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00069748 = 3.5571 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00069876 = 4.0877 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00069927 = 10.0345 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15416 @ 0.00069939 = 10.7818 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00069978 = 13.4708 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00069998 = 20.9994 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069999 = 6.9999 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00069999 = 20.9997 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2945 @ 0.00069999 = 2.0615 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:11:49 <jurov>	yeeehaw
Feb 03 16:12:00 <mjr_>	:) so much fun to watch
Feb 03 16:12:29 <jurov>	it's official. i'm short s.mpoe now
Feb 03 16:12:57 <mjr_>	how do you do that?
Feb 03 16:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	what, borrowed from customers ?!
Feb 03 16:13:10 <mjr_>	is that through coinbr?
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Feb 03 16:13:16 <jurov>	no i borrowed from smickles
Feb 03 16:13:20 <mjr_>	nice
Feb 03 16:13:26 <jurov>	it's completely outside coinbr
Feb 03 16:13:31 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 16:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	curious how well it works out.
Feb 03 16:13:37 <jurov>	just my little private shenaigans
Feb 03 16:13:43 <mjr_>	yeah it is interesting
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Feb 03 16:14:12 <mjr_>	its interesting to look at the differences...usually smickles could just say he will lend you the shares without actually transferring them
Feb 03 16:14:15 <mjr_>	and you could short...
Feb 03 16:14:27 <mjr_>	but i can see why that may not work
Feb 03 16:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	why not transfer them ?
Feb 03 16:14:45 <mjr_>	but also with options...having to put up collateral before you exercise
Feb 03 16:14:47 <mircea_popescu>	sign a gpg contract, do a push,
Feb 03 16:14:51 <mircea_popescu>	full documentary trail.
Feb 03 16:14:52 <jurov>	he did transfer them. an i did sold them
Feb 03 16:14:54 <mjr_>	yeah pretty easy
Feb 03 16:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 03 16:14:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00703438 / 0.00735783 / 0.007395 (214461 shares, 1,577.97 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00732888 / 0.00749999 (777731 shares, 5,699.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00510289 / 0.0075 (6065344 shares, 30,950.80 BTC)
Feb 03 16:15:21 <Namworld>	[16:14] <mircea_popescu> sign a gpg contract, do a push,
Feb 03 16:15:22 <Namworld>	[16:14] <mircea_popescu> full documentary trail.
Feb 03 16:15:30 <mjr_>	good point
Feb 03 16:15:32 <Namworld>	what if the other party doesn't return the shares?
Feb 03 16:16:05 <mjr_>	that is what i was thinking...you do insulate yourself from that risk on mirceau's side but smickles would have to go to the court i guess?
Feb 03 16:16:13 <jurov>	then smickles will rate me -10
Feb 03 16:16:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.77 = 7.7 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:16:20 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 16:16:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.007395 = 1.1093 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:16:24 <mjr_>	that is a nice way of doing it
Feb 03 16:16:59 <jurov>	anyway i have much more than than that on my own left from ipo.. so i'm covered even if whale buys up to 0.001
Feb 03 16:17:36 <mjr_>	i need to read up on traunch, not sure if that is the right spelling
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Feb 03 16:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld well obviously the problem of cp risk
Feb 03 16:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	but i was talkingfrom the perspective of having the proof.
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Feb 03 16:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i don't get it, why borrow shares if you have shares ?!
Feb 03 16:20:19 <mircea_popescu>	borrowing usually has costs
Feb 03 16:20:29 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 16:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	Network total	25.511 Thash/s
Feb 03 16:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	i tell ye... these asics aren't working as advertised.
Feb 03 16:21:08 <mjr_>	i thought there were only 2 of them
Feb 03 16:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	im sorry i didn't take more bets on network diff last year.
Feb 03 16:21:23 <mjr_>	but i am kinda happy if that's the case cuz it puts my FPGA project back on track
Feb 03 16:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic hey, you seen Keefe of late ?
Feb 03 16:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2470 @ 0.00069518 = 1.7171 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5930 @ 0.00069998 = 4.1509 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:23:34 <jurov>	yes borrowing has costs. i just wanted to operate with bigger amount
Feb 03 16:24:18 <Namworld>	there's no ASIC deployed yet no, except like 2?
Feb 03 16:24:46 <mjr_>	actually i had only really heard of 1 that was testing on slush's
Feb 03 16:24:50 <mjr_>	but i really don't konw
Feb 03 16:24:50 <jurov>	even these 2 should noticeably push the envelope
Feb 03 16:25:16 <Namworld>	How much hashing power are they?
Feb 03 16:25:26 <jurov>	68000MH
Feb 03 16:25:38 <Namworld>	so 136 GH...
Feb 03 16:25:45 <Namworld>	0.136 TH
Feb 03 16:26:08 <Namworld>	on 25 TH network... it would get lost in the noise...
Feb 03 16:26:37 <jurov>	ok i miscalculated somewhere
Feb 03 16:27:18 <Namworld>	68 GH each
Feb 03 16:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	i have bets made in august and sept and oct and etc that diff will be under X
Feb 03 16:27:35 <mircea_popescu>	where x is 100mn, 50mn, even 200mn
Feb 03 16:27:48 <Namworld>	network hashrate estimate varies 17500 - 27500 Ghash almost daily
Feb 03 16:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	i've seen it as high as 33
Feb 03 16:28:17 <Namworld>	just estimates tho based on luck
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Feb 03 16:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Feb 03 16:29:58 <jurov>	Namworld, difficulty is weekly average and doesn't vary so much. the luck does apply, still
Feb 03 16:30:10 <jurov>	*two-wekkly
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Feb 03 16:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	i think tomorrow we may see large jump
Feb 03 16:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	on exchange rate
Feb 03 16:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ << this is so funny. notice how the early yesses turn to later nos
Feb 03 16:32:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:32:13 <smickles>	i've facilitated shorts for people where I don't transfer the shares too, usually because they don't have mpex or broker accounts
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Feb 03 16:33:18 <mircea_popescu>	broker short.
Feb 03 16:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00069617 = 1.3923 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:36:48 <smickles>	;;ticker
Feb 03 16:36:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.69731, Best ask: 20.74990, Bid-ask spread: 0.05259, Last trade: 20.74990, 24 hour volume: 32706.64412999, 24 hour low: 19.42000, 24 hour high: 20.75000, 24 hour vwap: 20.17193
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Feb 03 16:37:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:37:22 <smickles>	;;calc 19/110526446
Feb 03 16:37:22 <gribble>	1.71904559385e-07
Feb 03 16:37:27 <smickles>	;;calc 19/1.10526446
Feb 03 16:37:28 <gribble>	17.1904559385
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Feb 03 16:37:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067349 = 2.9102 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067348 = 3.3674 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 16:37:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4663 @ 0.00067347 = 3.1404 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:37:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3566 @ 0.00067232 = 2.3975 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:41:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3576 @ 0.00067036 = 2.3972 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:42:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1 @ 0.12907935 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 16:44:43 <mjr_>	yeah i guess since usually you don't clear immediately
Feb 03 16:44:51 <mjr_>	broker shorts are usually what happens in finance
Feb 03 16:45:03 <mjr_>	but i guess we can consider that we clear immediately?
Feb 03 16:45:40 <mjr_>	not sure if "clear" is even applicable in this context
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Feb 03 16:45:53 <smickles>	mjr_: you say the options are thinly traded? there were over 80 thousand of 'em traded last month
Feb 03 16:46:06 <mjr_>	is that all options?
Feb 03 16:46:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.007395 = 36.975 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:46:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.996 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:46:18 <smickles>	yeah, for mpoebot alone
Feb 03 16:46:21 <mjr_>	i mean that is a range of calls and puts somewhere around the current price
Feb 03 16:46:27 <smickles>	yeah
Feb 03 16:46:49 <smickles>	there are some people who buy/sell thousands at a time over a range
Feb 03 16:46:58 <mjr_>	and probably what i meant more than that was that in general, those 80,000 may have been 80 orders...
Feb 03 16:47:02 <mjr_>	over a month
Feb 03 16:47:12 <mjr_>	over at least 6 different instruments
Feb 03 16:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	options are about 1/2 total trade volume really.
Feb 03 16:47:15 <smickles>	ah, gotcha
Feb 03 16:47:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.78525252 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:47:36 <mjr_>	yes, but when you conflate "options" with S.DICE it isn't fair
Feb 03 16:47:43 <mjr_>	since there are many different options
Feb 03 16:47:43 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the rss reports number of trads too, right?
Feb 03 16:47:56 <smickles>	*trades
Feb 03 16:47:59 <mjr_>	so if you want to get into a market maker position, you have to hope you are there at the right time
Feb 03 16:48:05 <mjr_>	twice
Feb 03 16:48:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 745 @ 0.00067036 = 0.4994 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067035 = 6.7035 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4666 @ 0.00067034 = 3.1278 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:48:32 <mjr_>	it would be easy for S.DICE
Feb 03 16:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	smickles the 12 most recent
Feb 03 16:48:54 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 03 16:48:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.74243, Best ask: 20.78400, Bid-ask spread: 0.04157, Last trade: 20.74243, 24 hour volume: 32847.73945862, 24 hour low: 19.42000, 24 hour high: 20.78000, 24 hour vwap: 20.17951
Feb 03 16:48:56 <mjr_>	but for any one specific option it may be tougher to hang in there, though the spread is large enough so it could work out well
Feb 03 16:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ the bot made 10k btc by hanging in there las  tmionth.
Feb 03 16:49:30 <mjr_>	nice
Feb 03 16:49:35 <mjr_>	WOW
Feb 03 16:49:47 <mjr_>	is this jurov's or yours
Feb 03 16:50:03 <mircea_popescu>	you know how mpex trades under s.mpoe ?
Feb 03 16:50:08 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 16:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	that mpoe is the name of the options bot.
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Feb 03 16:50:21 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 16:50:35 <mjr_>	so i don't know if i want my bot going up against yours lol
Feb 03 16:50:40 <mircea_popescu>	mpex started out as an options trading page back in august 2011
Feb 03 16:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	was called mpoe then.
Feb 03 16:50:53 <jurov>	lol, like, i made 10k last month but bragging about 38btc from coinbr instead :DDDD
Feb 03 16:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	in february mpex opened, the two got merged in april iirc
Feb 03 16:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	jurov sly dog :D
Feb 03 16:51:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:51:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.76 = 15.2 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:51:51 <mjr_>	you report havelocks but you can't fill their orders can you? or is that how it works...
Feb 03 16:52:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:52:30 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Feb 03 16:52:38 <mjr_>	i'm not sure if they keep their own inventory and you just report for pricing purposes or if whenever they get an order it comes here and is then filled
Feb 03 16:53:01 <smickles>	assbot reports havelock, we assume havelock buys on mpex
Feb 03 16:53:21 <Guest49091>	that would be corect
Feb 03 16:53:22 <mircea_popescu>	in general the pt operators buy on mpex and resell on w/e platform they use
Feb 03 16:53:22 <mjr_>	it just seems like havelocks prices that they buy at are noticeably above what we see
Feb 03 16:53:23 <Guest49091>	correct
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Feb 03 16:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	well, if they don't manage to buy on mpex in time the demand on the other venue may push prices up
Feb 03 16:54:13 <topace>	anything reported by assbot is an internal trade from one havelock customer to another
Feb 03 16:54:33 <mjr_>	i would buy S.DICE at .00724519 a share
Feb 03 16:54:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067407 = 2.9127 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:54:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6420 @ 0.00067418 = 4.3282 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:55:00 <mjr_>	or at least i would start there and if i needed more would raise price up
Feb 03 16:55:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067395 = 2.9121 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:55:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28180 @ 0.00067418 = 18.9984 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:56:12 <mjr_>	are all orders queued mircea_popescu? ie. one queue for all
Feb 03 16:56:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
Feb 03 16:56:40 <smickles>	i dun think so, havelock is a whole other platform
Feb 03 16:57:32 <smickles>	the sdice on havelock is essential a collective investment scheme
Feb 03 16:57:42 <mjr_>	yes i know...but they again just paid...almost 5% more than market
Feb 03 16:57:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069984 = 3.024 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8129 @ 0.00069998 = 5.6901 BTC [+]
Feb 03 16:58:05 <mjr_>	and i know they have some sort of dividend holding thing going on
Feb 03 16:58:14 <topace>	mjr_: yes, but a lot of the people trading on havelock dont want to a) pay the mpex registration fee, and b) mess with gpg
Feb 03 16:58:16 <mjr_>	from what i heard last night
Feb 03 16:58:20 <topace>	mjr_: what??
Feb 03 16:58:22 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 16:58:22 <topace>	dividend holdng?
Feb 03 16:58:30 <topace>	(note: i run havelock)
Feb 03 16:58:31 <mjr_>	i heard that they keep 5% or something
Feb 03 16:58:37 <mjr_>	of dividends
Feb 03 16:58:47 <topace>	oh, yes, for the S.DICE passthru, we pay out 95% of the dividend we receive from mpex
Feb 03 16:58:52 <mjr_>	management fee...i haven't researched, and i don't know
Feb 03 16:58:56 <mjr_>	yes exactly
Feb 03 16:59:02 <topace>	5% is our "Fee" essentially for running the passthru
Feb 03 16:59:04 <mjr_>	and i understand about fees
Feb 03 16:59:10 <mjr_>	so yeah, i get that
Feb 03 16:59:35 <mjr_>	i think that is a great business model, and all orders are denominated in lots of 100 right?
Feb 03 16:59:48 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 03 16:59:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00703438 / 0.0073593 / 0.007395 (221103 shares, 1,627.17 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00732904 / 0.00749999 (782480 shares, 5,734.83 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00510684 / 0.0075 (6074156 shares, 31,019.75 BTC)
Feb 03 16:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h s.dice
Feb 03 16:59:54 <assbot>	Are you sure you have no tobacco?
Feb 03 16:59:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 03 17:00:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.75670000 / 0.78531261 / 0.83831111 (131 shares, 102.87595147 BTC), 7D: 0.56110000 / 0.75183841 / 0.89000000 (1573 shares, 1182.64181198 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.58622355 / 0.89000000 (5772 shares, 3383.68232992 BTC)
Feb 03 17:00:04 <topace>	yes, 100 shares on mpex = 1 unit on havelock
Feb 03 17:00:24 <mjr_>	thanks topace
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Feb 03 17:00:26 <Lyspooner>	why does assbot italicize the ask price
Feb 03 17:00:37 <Lyspooner>	as opposed to the bid price
Feb 03 17:00:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 633 @ 0.0074 = 4.6842 BTC [-]
Feb 03 17:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (0.7853126 - 0.0073593*.95)
Feb 03 17:00:51 <gribble>	0.778321265
Feb 03 17:00:55 <Lyspooner>	am i supposed to put more importance on the offer side of things?
Feb 03 17:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (0.007853126 - 0.0073593*.95)
Feb 03 17:00:58 <gribble>	0.000861791
Feb 03 17:01:17 <mircea_popescu>	very theoretically speaking there's a 0.00086 per share arb oportunity between the two atm
Feb 03 17:01:26 <mjr_>	no...
Feb 03 17:01:32 <mjr_>	you didn't account for the 100 to 1
Feb 03 17:01:34 <mjr_>	i believe
Feb 03 17:01:38 <Lyspooner>	oh nm
Feb 03 17:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	i did on the 2nd pass
Feb 03 17:01:40 <smickles>	Lyspooner: i thought that assbot reported low / avg / high
Feb 03 17:01:46 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 03 17:01:59 <Lyspooner>	ok thanks, i see that
Feb 03 17:02:10 <Lyspooner>	avg of what, the low and high?
Feb 03 17:02:12 <mjr_>	i wasn't thinking of arbing it
Feb 03 17:02:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.76 = 19.76 BTC [-]
Feb 03 17:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner vwap for the interval
Feb 03 17:02:53 <Lyspooner>	vwap as calculated tick for tick, trade by trade, or second for second?
Feb 03 17:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	trade by trade
Feb 03 17:03:15 <mjr_>	i was just curious why they always seem to come in higher than best ask, is that automatically calculated for the size of order they asked for?
Feb 03 17:03:16 <Lyspooner>	what if there is no trade in 1d interval
Feb 03 17:03:24 <mircea_popescu>	avg is 0
Feb 03 17:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ huh ?
Feb 03 17:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m o.btcusd.p330n
Feb 03 17:04:06 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P330N] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  /  /  ( shares,  BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Feb 03 17:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol kakobreklaa check it out. inconsistent behaviour
Feb 03 17:04:43 <mjr_>	;; calc 0.00760000/0.00739500
Feb 03 17:04:43 <gribble>	1.0277214334
Feb 03 17:04:53 <smickles>	mjr_: you mean, the buys on havelock often come in higher than the best ask on mpex
Feb 03 17:05:00 <mjr_>	they asked for s.dice at 2.7% higher than the best offer
Feb 03 17:05:03 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 17:05:07 <kakobreklaa>	mircea_popescu, its the way of the road, bud.
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Feb 03 17:05:12 <smickles>	it's probably because havelock is trading based on a 'personal' inventory
Feb 03 17:05:12 <mjr_>	that is what doesn't makes sense to me
Feb 03 17:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	weeks are speshul ?
Feb 03 17:05:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.007395 = 2.958 BTC [+]
Feb 03 17:05:28 <kakobreklaa>	i have no clue tbh.
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Feb 03 17:05:31 <smickles>	and only buys on mpex when out of inventory
Feb 03 17:05:31 <topace>	mjr_: the trades you see from havelock are BETWEEN havelock users
Feb 03 17:05:33 <mjr_>	ah personal inventory held in mpex
Feb 03 17:05:42 <mjr_>	oh ok
Feb 03 17:05:43 <mjr_>	thanks
Feb 03 17:05:44 <topace>	we hold 425000 shares of SDICE in mpex, and our users trade that
Feb 03 17:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ dood. you know what depositary receipts are ?
Feb 03 17:05:51 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 17:06:03 <mircea_popescu>	sort of like, how bp trades in ny but is listed in london ?
Feb 03 17:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	something of that nature.
Feb 03 17:06:13 <mjr_>	yeah i get it
Feb 03 17:06:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.765 = 2.295 BTC [+]
Feb 03 17:06:46 <smickles>	topace: does your setup allow for in-kind exchange?
Feb 03 17:06:49 <mjr_>	i thought these were trades between mpex users...but technically you are just reporting informative trading information from havelock users, correct?
Feb 03 17:07:06 <mircea_popescu>	you know i don't run or maintain assbot do you ?
Feb 03 17:07:07 <mjr_>	ie. that is more market data
Feb 03 17:07:09 <topace>	smickles: in kind exchnge?
Feb 03 17:07:11 <smickles>	mjr_: assbot is run by kakobreklaa independant of mpex
Feb 03 17:07:24 <mjr_>	oh, was not aware
Feb 03 17:07:31 <kakobreklaa>	assbit us assdependant.
Feb 03 17:07:31 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. i just troll here.
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Feb 03 17:07:34 <kakobreklaa>	eh assbot
Feb 03 17:07:41 <mircea_popescu>	lrn2spill.
Feb 03 17:07:48 <smickles>	topace: say i had 100000 s.dice, can i give you them for 1000 sdice on havelock?
Feb 03 17:08:06 <topace>	Units of the fund ARE convertible to shares on MPEX at 1 unit = 100 shares PUSHED to your MPEX account for a fixed fee of 10 BTC per transfer (fee subject to change). Contact us by email to initiate a transfer.
Feb 03 17:08:13 <smickles>	(so many mispellings)
Feb 03 17:08:18 <mircea_popescu>	he's talking the other way topace
Feb 03 17:08:34 <topace>	ah yes, never though tof that, but yes i dont see why not
Feb 03 17:08:45 <mircea_popescu>	cause he wants to arb lol
Feb 03 17:08:46 <topace>	but again, for a fairly large, per-trasnaction fee, becuase that would be all manual on my side
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Feb 03 17:09:07 <mjr_>	yeah defintely wouldn't be worth it for arb lol
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Feb 03 17:09:39 <mjr_>	thanks for explaining though
Feb 03 17:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	awww i remember the good old days when there were only a few new accts a day ;/
Feb 03 17:09:55 <mjr_>	i was just always confused why they wouldn't lift the ask
Feb 03 17:10:06 <topace>	the original thought process of making the units convertable, was tha tpeople might start buying on havelock with a low initial investment, and build up to the point that it'd be worth it for them to stop paying our 5% management fee and move their units direct to mpex
Feb 03 17:10:14 <smickles>	topace: why not lower the fee, and limit it by requireing large volume?
Feb 03 17:10:41 <topace>	smickles: i could do that too, im open to suggestions
Feb 03 17:10:59 <mjr_>	as mircea_popescu calculated...it would be very hard to overcome practically any fee
Feb 03 17:11:08 <mjr_>	i think
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Feb 03 17:11:49 <mjr_>	i should have done math before i say that
Feb 03 17:13:09 <smickles>	hey mjr_, wanna borrow a crapload of s.dice to arb with :)
Feb 03 17:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	.0008 is close to 10%
Feb 03 17:13:19 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 03 17:13:27 <mjr_>	i was just doing that math
Feb 03 17:13:34 <Bowjov>	btctalkdown?
Feb 03 17:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjov it was down a fwew hours ago
Feb 03 17:13:52 <Anduck>	yes
Feb 03 17:13:56 <Anduck>	hey umm
Feb 03 17:14:01 <Anduck>	how much s.dice paid total div?
Feb 03 17:14:04 <Anduck>	and how much per share
Feb 03 17:14:09 <mjr_>	so i guess it would even make sense at current fees if you transferred enough
Feb 03 17:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	like 2k total Anduck
Feb 03 17:14:16 <mjr_>	2000
Feb 03 17:14:19 <Anduck>	2000? hmmm
Feb 03 17:14:26 <Bowjov>	1700 the month before
Feb 03 17:14:30 <Anduck>	ok
Feb 03 17:14:35 <Bowjov>	and less before that
Feb 03 17:14:40 <Anduck>	yeah
Feb 03 17:14:47 <mjr_>	still not bad
Feb 03 17:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	ya like 5k total over lifetime
Feb 03 17:15:10 <Bowjov>	also shares appreciated over the past month.. it was 0.xx32->0.0075 today
Feb 03 17:15:12 <smickles>	2000 to 10000000
Feb 03 17:15:18 <smickles>	shares, right?
Feb 03 17:15:23 <mjr_>	thanks smickles but i think i should build up WoT before doing anything like that
Feb 03 17:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	to 10mn
Feb 03 17:15:30 <mircea_popescu>	im not gonna count your zeroesmess :D
Feb 03 17:15:37 <awkorama>	does anybody here use mt.gox socket.io interface ?
Feb 03 17:15:51 <smickles>	heh, i thought you loved satoshis mircea_popescu ;)
Feb 03 17:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	awkorama it's how clarkmoody works is it ?
Feb 03 17:16:05 <awkorama>	no idea what clarkmoody even is
Feb 03 17:16:07 <mjr_>	thats what i was thinking...but i think it has a fallback too...
Feb 03 17:16:13 <mjr_>	bitcoin.clarkmoody.com
Feb 03 17:16:31 <awkorama>	judging from the console down, yes
Feb 03 17:16:34 <smickles>	awkorama: i have in the past, but it was flakey for me
Feb 03 17:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	so there's yopuir answer
Feb 03 17:16:40 <smickles>	so i stopped
Feb 03 17:16:43 <mircea_popescu>	in general when forum is down gox is down
Feb 03 17:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	cause that 5k server they have is shared.
Feb 03 17:17:02 <Anduck>	lol...7
Feb 03 17:17:03 <awkorama>	so are you hammering the REST interface instead ?
Feb 03 17:17:12 <Anduck>	why dont they have separate servers...
Feb 03 17:17:31 <awkorama>	I need a live(ish) stream of ticker
Feb 03 17:17:33 <mjr_>	speaking of which, do you have any api limits mircea_popescu? i can slow down my bot if you like
Feb 03 17:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck a better question is, why doesn't the forum use some of that 5k btc it has collected over the years
Feb 03 17:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	and get some motherfucking hosting
Feb 03 17:17:49 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ you have a bot ?
Feb 03 17:17:53 <mjr_>	could use bitvps
Feb 03 17:17:56 <mjr_>	just to check prices
Feb 03 17:17:57 <Anduck>	too much asked xDD
Feb 03 17:18:19 <Bowjov>	it goes to theymos' personal fund.. in which he replenishes those btc he sold at a rate of 1k btc per dollar
Feb 03 17:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ so use somethingsensible, not like they change that often
Feb 03 17:18:20 <mjr_>	i showed the output, it calculates spread based on lowest ask and highest bid
Feb 03 17:18:37 <mjr_>	so i am just grabbing the jsonmarket depth
Feb 03 17:18:48 <smickles>	awkorama: i switched to something that doesn't require me to be 'up to the second' on gox
Feb 03 17:18:51 <mircea_popescu>	how often ?
Feb 03 17:18:59 <mjr_>	i think once every 3 seconds?
Feb 03 17:19:02 <mjr_>	is that too much?
Feb 03 17:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	do you actually need it that precise ?
Feb 03 17:19:19 <mjr_>	well not now...
Feb 03 17:19:22 <mjr_>	i will slow it down
Feb 03 17:19:33 <mjr_>	but if it were to place orders i would like it to be as precise as possible
Feb 03 17:19:42 <awkorama>	smickles: I understand that you don't want to share your secret...
Feb 03 17:19:43 <mjr_>	moreso to check stat
Feb 03 17:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	so watch some ticker and update when it moves
Feb 03 17:20:01 <mjr_>	good idea
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Feb 03 17:20:17 <smickles>	awkorama: no secret, i've moved to trading options on mpex, rather than spot on gox
Feb 03 17:20:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol smickles that's what all the cool kids do
Feb 03 17:20:35 <awkorama>	oh ok, doesn't help me then, thanks anyway :)
Feb 03 17:21:06 <mjr_>	spot is way too hard
Feb 03 17:21:11 <mjr_>	because of fees
Feb 03 17:21:13 <smickles>	awkorama: your best bet, afaik, is to use the websocket api, and failover to rest
Feb 03 17:21:34 <mjr_>	and you have to leave money all over the place for long periods of time
Feb 03 17:21:40 <awkorama>	as in, if I don't receive a websocket update in 10 seconds, hammer the REST ?
Feb 03 17:21:51 <smickles>	awkorama: maybe have a redundency with bitcoincharts' stream (if they still have it)
Feb 03 17:22:16 <mjr_>	i wish someone had multicast market data, that would be so nice
Feb 03 17:22:20 <awkorama>	you reckon they would have a different source than me ?
Feb 03 17:22:38 <awkorama>	pubnub it ?
Feb 03 17:23:00 <smickles>	bitcoincharts might get lucky where you don't
Feb 03 17:23:05 <smickles>	's my logic
Feb 03 17:23:23 <awkorama>	mmkay
Feb 03 17:24:11 <mjr_>	i will try to integrate an rss feed reader...i think, that could work right? which would be the first to update?
Feb 03 17:24:12 <smickles>	mjr_: ever lurked in #bitcoin-market?
Feb 03 17:24:32 <mjr_>	in there now
Feb 03 17:24:39 <mjr_>	but this is the funnest of all the btc related rooms
Feb 03 17:24:50 <smickles>	that's kinda multicast market data
Feb 03 17:25:09 <awkorama>	and now for something completely different, is there a concept of NDA in bitcoin world at all ?
Feb 03 17:25:10 <mjr_>	yeah...kinda...i meant more like tcp multicast ie. i can join a group
Feb 03 17:25:19 <smickles>	awkorama: yes
Feb 03 17:25:21 <Bowjov>	the only thing i want from bitcointalk is doog's data
Feb 03 17:25:22 <Bowjov>	>_>
Feb 03 17:25:31 <mjr_>	awkorama: nice rocky and bullwinkle reference :)
Feb 03 17:25:32 <awkorama>	smickles: how does it work ?
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Feb 03 17:26:25 <smickles>	awkorama: either with a wink and a nod, or contracts
Feb 03 17:26:37 <smickles>	from my personal exp., that is
Feb 03 17:26:42 <mjr_>	contracts are enforced through WoT right?
Feb 03 17:26:47 <smickles>	yup
Feb 03 17:27:09 <Bowjov>	Has anyone ordered from Avalon batch no.2 successfully?
Feb 03 17:27:12 <mjr_>	hmmm difficult with NDA then...you probably are trying to assure they don't tell someone outside of here (i am assuming)
Feb 03 17:27:31 <awkorama>	not tell anyone
Feb 03 17:27:35 <awkorama>	not even people here
Feb 03 17:27:46 <mjr_>	well yeah, if they told people here you may be able to find out about it
Feb 03 17:27:50 <smickles>	mjr_: you could set up the contract in such a way that it's enforceable 'IRL'
Feb 03 17:28:06 <awkorama>	IRL sucks, WoT sounds much better
Feb 03 17:28:10 <mjr_>	if they told someone who they new IRL, how would you find out that they new? I am guessing you have abusiness idea
Feb 03 17:28:25 <Bowjov>	*knew
Feb 03 17:28:27 <awkorama>	yes, and I am looking for an investor
Feb 03 17:28:36 <mjr_>	yes lol, me too
Feb 03 17:28:42 <mjr_>	and we could have the same idea
Feb 03 17:28:57 <kakobreklaa>	and it might suck.
Feb 03 17:29:12 <mjr_>	it would be very hard to show that the person you told, then told me
Feb 03 17:29:19 <smickles>	mjr_: consider how often that could happen with 'regular' NDAs
Feb 03 17:29:30 <mjr_>	that was more my point
Feb 03 17:29:36 <smickles>	heh
Feb 03 17:29:36 <mjr_>	NDA is very hard to enforce
Feb 03 17:29:41 <mjr_>	except in issues of code
Feb 03 17:29:47 <awkorama>	it can harm someone's reputation though
Feb 03 17:29:50 <mjr_>	true
Feb 03 17:30:02 <mjr_>	i have already said my idea on here publicly
Feb 03 17:30:10 <awkorama>	I wonder whether that can be enforced through cryptography somehow
Feb 03 17:30:11 <mjr_>	if someone else does it that is fine too
Feb 03 17:30:40 <mjr_>	it's tough, if they are intended to receive the message...they can retransmit it's cleartext
Feb 03 17:31:00 <awkorama>	yes they can, but can i then proove that they got the message from me ?
Feb 03 17:31:10 <mjr_>	and that is the end of the scope of encryption...i have been thinking about that a lot lately, the inability to create an unrepeatable message
Feb 03 17:31:11 <awkorama>	and thus harm their reputation
Feb 03 17:31:25 <mjr_>	no...not in any way i can think of
Feb 03 17:31:27 <smickles>	there are fancy ways of embedding hidden data in documents
Feb 03 17:31:35 <mjr_>	because they could call someone, and just verbally tell the idea
Feb 03 17:31:46 <mjr_>	this same issue is what started SnapChat
Feb 03 17:31:54 <awkorama>	ok.. I write my business idea in a message
Feb 03 17:31:58 <mjr_>	but they ran into issues right away
Feb 03 17:32:06 <mjr_>	because you can take a screenshot
Feb 03 17:32:20 <mjr_>	so they added a feature to check if you took a screenshot
Feb 03 17:32:26 <mjr_>	so people can take picture with other device...
Feb 03 17:32:39 <jurov>	CoinBr.iDiff-E difficulty future now available from ฿0.040! Buy till it lasts :D
Feb 03 17:32:52 <jurov>	on bitfunder
Feb 03 17:32:55 <smickles>	when's e mature?
Feb 03 17:32:58 <mjr_>	messages by their very nature are repeatable...even if on other medium
Feb 03 17:33:00 <jurov>	Feb 20
Feb 03 17:33:06 <mjr_>	so that's what makes it tough
Feb 03 17:33:09 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Feb 03 17:33:10 <gribble>	2968775.3320751
Feb 03 17:33:10 <awkorama>	and send the hash of that message to whole network
Feb 03 17:33:19 <mjr_>	no i get it, you could do that
Feb 03 17:33:21 <awkorama>	or rather to whole WoT
Feb 03 17:33:27 <mjr_>	but they could read it out loud to someone
Feb 03 17:33:32 <awkorama>	then I send it plaintext to investor
Feb 03 17:33:45 <mjr_>	and how would you verify that what the person HEARD was related to what you WROTE
Feb 03 17:33:49 <awkorama>	and if the investor implements it without me, I can proove that he broke the NDA
Feb 03 17:34:03 <Bowjov>	bitcointalk is now back on
Feb 03 17:34:05 <Bowjov>	GG
Feb 03 17:34:10 <smickles>	lol, gg
Feb 03 17:34:11 <awkorama>	well the project would be discribed in detail
Feb 03 17:34:15 <kakobreklaa>	dont forget you maxitrol drops.
Feb 03 17:34:26 <awkorama>	so it get be publicly identified if it went live
Feb 03 17:34:31 <mjr_>	i guess the problem in this case specifically would be in that yes if he implemented it EXACTLY as you had specified, you could sue
Feb 03 17:35:05 <mjr_>	but if he says he was "inspired by" or it was "similar to something i was already doing"...that is what makes it a gray area
Feb 03 17:35:11 <smickles>	a public hash of the idea, and proof you talked to the scammer.
Feb 03 17:35:15 <mjr_>	look at facebook, zuckerberg and the winklevoss
Feb 03 17:35:20 <awkorama>	well.. then the WoT would decide whether he broke the NDA or not
Feb 03 17:35:31 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 17:35:38 <awkorama>	the grey area is not something I would decide
Feb 03 17:36:20 <mjr_>	i would say that a picture with a timestamp, or something like that is proof as well
Feb 03 17:36:24 <mjr_>	or mail it to yourself
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Feb 03 17:36:49 <mjr_>	or email it to someone secure so they have a record of it being emailed at a certain date and time
Feb 03 17:37:02 <awkorama>	yeah, but checksum is enough in this case
Feb 03 17:37:10 <mjr_>	...
Feb 03 17:37:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 14.9 = 29.8 BTC [+]
Feb 03 17:37:19 <mjr_>	if he decides to post your exact plan
Feb 03 17:37:27 <mjr_>	then yes you can verify with checksum
Feb 03 17:37:33 <mjr_>	but if he changes the name on it...
Feb 03 17:37:38 <mjr_>	the checksum would no longer match
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Feb 03 17:38:14 <mjr_>	so if he decided to share with other people your exact idea, and not even bother taking your name off it and replacing it with his own, you could prove that he was using your idea
Feb 03 17:38:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.3099 = 1.2396 BTC [-]
Feb 03 17:38:47 <mjr_>	plagiarists rarely do that, haven't we all kinda paraphrased stuff for our papers after copy pasting?
Feb 03 17:38:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0075 = 0.015 BTC [+]
Feb 03 17:39:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1098 @ 0.0075 = 8.235 BTC [+]
Feb 03 17:39:09 <awkorama>	mjr_: no.. because if he implements the project, it would be public
Feb 03 17:39:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+]
Feb 03 17:39:27 <awkorama>	and then I can publish the plaintext prooving that it was indeed me who created the idea in the first place
Feb 03 17:39:34 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 03 17:39:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.01 = 0.5 BTC [+]
Feb 03 17:39:58 <mjr_>	that is if his idea is so closely related to yours that it is provably the same
Feb 03 17:40:05 <mjr_>	and that is why NDA is hard
Feb 03 17:40:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.765 = 7.65 BTC [+]
Feb 03 17:40:23 <mjr_>	ie. could someone have come up with this on their own?
Feb 03 17:40:25 <awkorama>	yes, but that is NDA in general, not in virtual
Feb 03 17:40:39 <awkorama>	world especially
Feb 03 17:40:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2690 @ 0.0075 = 20.175 BTC [+]
Feb 03 17:40:46 <mjr_>	remember...newton and leibniz "invented" calculus pretty much simultaneously
Feb 03 17:40:53 <mjr_>	separately
Feb 03 17:40:59 <mjr_>	so...
Feb 03 17:40:59 <awkorama>	anybody can come up with idea, nobody really implemented it (or so does google tell me)
Feb 03 17:41:07 <mjr_>	yeah i know
Feb 03 17:41:14 <mjr_>	so if he implements it...he can say, i had this idea
Feb 03 17:41:31 <mjr_>	again it is a judgement call
Feb 03 17:41:36 <mjr_>	i am just playing devil's advocate
Feb 03 17:41:42 <awkorama>	and you are right
Feb 03 17:41:46 <mjr_>	this is a huge debate
Feb 03 17:41:57 <mjr_>	intelectual property is one of the fastest growing areas of law
Feb 03 17:42:06 <awkorama>	as a member of pirate party, I would know
Feb 03 17:42:08 <mjr_>	and one of the hardest to actually decide
Feb 03 17:42:20 <awkorama>	anyway
Feb 03 17:42:43 <mjr_>	for example...is it that unique to do my idea? (no one has done it yet)
Feb 03 17:42:49 <mjr_>	i think it's obvious to me
Feb 03 17:43:06 <awkorama>	maybe I just hack some code together quickly and push it live without an investor and then arange an IPO to raise some starting funds
Feb 03 17:43:20 <awkorama>	e.g. going public with the idea but calling out to pool of investors
Feb 03 17:43:22 <mjr_>	IPO is tough in btc world
Feb 03 17:43:28 <awkorama>	is it ?
Feb 03 17:43:29 <mjr_>	i like your idea
Feb 03 17:43:33 <mjr_>	well...
Feb 03 17:43:39 <mjr_>	IPO will probably involve SEC
Feb 03 17:43:54 <mjr_>	(almost definitely is actually more accurate, except for a few loopholes)
Feb 03 17:43:56 <awkorama>	IPO on MPEX ?
Feb 03 17:44:01 <mjr_>	oh, no
Feb 03 17:44:04 <mjr_>	never mind
Feb 03 17:44:10 <mjr_>	in that case great idea and i would do that
Feb 03 17:44:33 <mjr_>	thought you meant investors in the sense of venture capital firms
Feb 03 17:44:43 <mjr_>	or angel investors
Feb 03 17:44:59 <awkorama>	no.. I want to keep this all on net, no country involved
Feb 03 17:45:00 <mjr_>	coinbase got 600k and they went through YCombinator
Feb 03 17:45:13 <mjr_>	and i like that style a lot
Feb 03 17:45:34 <mjr_>	i would like to do mine that way, but it wouldn't really work
Feb 03 17:45:55 <mjr_>	and in my opinion, coinbase did not do anything new
Feb 03 17:46:16 <mjr_>	online wallet and very limited exchange with bank linking
Feb 03 17:46:35 <mjr_>	great UI though, and they made it easier
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Feb 03 17:46:49 <awkorama>	doesn't anyone just use bootstrap.js for ui ?
Feb 03 17:46:55 <awkorama>	(I do, anyway)
Feb 03 17:46:56 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 03 17:46:56 <awkorama>	:)
Feb 03 17:47:11 <mjr_>	very true L33T css3 rounded corners and drop shadows
Feb 03 17:47:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0098 BTC [-]
Feb 03 17:47:28 <mjr_>	yeah i like bootstrap and jquery
Feb 03 17:47:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0098 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 17:48:06 <awkorama>	Also this is the first project I went js only (including server side), so I realized how much I suck at js :)
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Feb 03 17:48:16 <mjr_>	ooh nice, node.js?
Feb 03 17:48:17 <Bowjov>	according to BFL, I can still get an asic if I win their "lottery" system, even if I pre order today?
Feb 03 17:48:28 <awkorama>	yes
Feb 03 17:48:32 <mjr_>	awesome
Feb 03 17:48:37 <mjr_>	i really like that
Feb 03 17:48:46 <awkorama>	multiple node.js instances communicating with each other through rabbitmq.
Feb 03 17:48:55 <mjr_>	also super awesome
Feb 03 17:49:00 <mjr_>	i think that is the future
Feb 03 17:49:04 <mjr_>	event driven
Feb 03 17:49:09 <awkorama>	well.. my application is very event driven
Feb 03 17:49:21 <awkorama>	but I have zero pulls in it
Feb 03 17:49:29 <awkorama>	everything is pushed
Feb 03 17:49:32 <mjr_>	what db? mongo?
Feb 03 17:49:42 <awkorama>	postgre
Feb 03 17:49:45 <mjr_>	that's cool
Feb 03 17:49:53 <awkorama>	I am not very skilled with nosql, yet
Feb 03 17:49:57 <awkorama>	so wanted to go the safe way
Feb 03 17:50:07 <mjr_>	me neither, but luckily, it is very (almost exactly) js
Feb 03 17:50:17 <mjr_>	it's all just json in mongo
Feb 03 17:50:22 <awkorama>	Also I am not sure about mongo supporting arbitrary precision mathematics
Feb 03 17:50:28 <mjr_>	yeah that i don't know
Feb 03 17:50:33 <awkorama>	I mean datatypes in general suck in js
Feb 03 17:50:46 <mjr_>	i think you can set precision can't you
Feb 03 17:51:00 <mjr_>	but i personally hate strongly typed so you may be talking to the wrong person about that
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Feb 03 17:51:06 <awkorama>	if it's just js Number type then NO
Feb 03 17:51:11 <awkorama>	because that is just 64 bit float
Feb 03 17:51:33 <mjr_>	is that not more than enough precision?
Feb 03 17:51:37 <awkorama>	no
Feb 03 17:51:41 <mjr_>	...
Feb 03 17:52:47 <awkorama>	132.32 * 10 = 1323.199999
Feb 03 17:52:50 <mjr_>	1.0000000000000002
Feb 03 17:52:51 <awkorama>	so not ideal
Feb 03 17:52:57 <mjr_>	smallest 64 bit number greater than 1
Feb 03 17:52:58 <awkorama>	when dealing with stuff like money
Feb 03 17:53:12 <mjr_>	15 decimal places? even btc only goes down to 8
Feb 03 17:53:25 <awkorama>	I would be happy with two
Feb 03 17:53:37 <awkorama>	but no rounding, doing proper decimal calculations
Feb 03 17:54:49 <mjr_>	https://github.com/iriscouch/bigdecimal.js this may help
Feb 03 17:55:04 <mjr_>	i have no idea
Feb 03 17:55:11 <mjr_>	but just a quick glance
Feb 03 17:55:39 <mjr_>	no float is ever really accurate in the grand scheme of things
Feb 03 17:55:43 <awkorama>	yes, but what about storage
Feb 03 17:55:53 <mjr_>	more philosophically than in practice
Feb 03 17:56:00 <mjr_>	hmmm
Feb 03 17:56:01 <mjr_>	not sure
Feb 03 17:56:04 <awkorama>	mongo wouldn't be able to compare such numbers in where clause
Feb 03 17:56:12 <awkorama>	that's why I went with postgre
Feb 03 17:56:43 <awkorama>	so at least my data will be fine, even though my front-end right now does not deal in decimals
Feb 03 17:57:20 <mjr_>	well, one possible solution is to calc the decimal portion as an integer and then append it to another int
Feb 03 17:57:26 <mjr_>	using casting
Feb 03 17:57:28 <mjr_>	or something like that
Feb 03 17:57:40 <mjr_>	may not work
Feb 03 17:57:58 <mjr_>	but i think using tuples of numbers ie. int + float could be a possible solution
Feb 03 17:58:02 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 03 17:58:09 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
Feb 03 17:58:38 <mjr_>	anyway, you should check out angular.js...i want to do my next web project using that
Feb 03 17:58:40 <mjr_>	i love it
Feb 03 17:59:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.765 = 11.475 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 17:59:50 <mjr_>	i was talking to jurov of how cool it'd be to build a really nice browser based trading platform
Feb 03 18:00:12 <mjr_>	with hot keys and everything
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Feb 03 18:01:06 <awkorama>	sounds nice
Feb 03 18:01:17 <awkorama>	be sure to make it "mobile first"
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Feb 03 18:01:44 <smickles>	lol, ok, time to start coding a backup way to get the overall market 24hvwap
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Feb 03 18:03:07 <mjr_>	hmmm
Feb 03 18:03:13 <mjr_>	i think mobile would be too restrictive
Feb 03 18:03:26 <mjr_>	i mean for trading at least
Feb 03 18:03:49 <awkorama>	what do you need for trading?
Feb 03 18:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 670622 @ 0.0007 = 469.4354 BTC [+]
Feb 03 18:03:58 <awkorama>	position list with pnl
Feb 03 18:04:02 <mjr_>	i would want charts from clark moody and depth of book, with prints (if it could get market data from mpex instead of mt. gox)
Feb 03 18:04:04 <awkorama>	charts
Feb 03 18:04:12 <mjr_>	yes, and then i would want hot keys
Feb 03 18:04:18 <mjr_>	as well as a positions window
Feb 03 18:04:22 <awkorama>	gestures on mobile
Feb 03 18:04:25 <mjr_>	and a stock list
Feb 03 18:04:32 <mjr_>	that could work
Feb 03 18:04:33 <awkorama>	and then add hotkeys for desktop version
Feb 03 18:04:51 <mjr_>	but i would say angular is great for this sort of thing
Feb 03 18:04:55 <mjr_>	and node.js in the back
Feb 03 18:05:23 <awkorama>	and socket.io in between
Feb 03 18:05:36 <jurov>	why can't one use ints exclusively? and rounded floats only for display?
Feb 03 18:05:36 <awkorama>	or pubnub if you go large
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Feb 03 18:06:13 <awkorama>	jurov: that might work, you need to remember for each column though, how many decimal places you have there
Feb 03 18:06:24 <awkorama>	and also choose it at the beginning of development
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Feb 03 18:06:41 <jurov>	kakobreklaa: assbot down. i'm sure there's serious activity on s.mpoe atm
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Feb 03 18:08:17 <mjr_>	looks like we are rallying once again
Feb 03 18:08:18 <jurov>	kako i suspect you. really looks like you turn the light off, did the trades, started assbot again
Feb 03 18:08:26 <awkorama>	alright guys, leaving for today, nice chatting to you, g/n
Feb 03 18:08:39 <mjr_>	yeah very fun awkorama good luck
Feb 03 18:09:19 <mjr_>	i for one think i am going to start using satoshi's as my unit
Feb 03 18:09:35 <mjr_>	decimals get way too hard to remember cuz we don't really have a great way to say numbers like that
Feb 03 18:10:26 <mjr_>	like saying S.DICE is at 724,159 satoshis
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Feb 03 18:11:04 <mjr_>	is a lot easier than 0.00724159
Feb 03 18:11:12 <mjr_>	how would you pronounce that
Feb 03 18:12:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.765 = 7.65 BTC [+]
Feb 03 18:13:30 <jurov>	7241.59 microbitcoins
Feb 03 18:13:30 <mjr_>	and i think humans are meant to think in integers...if i said give me a hundred million satoshis, and you said ok i'm gonna charge you 500 for the transfer or 50,000 for the transfer it's a lot easier for me to make sense of the terms, cuz they are the same way you would say them
Feb 03 18:13:46 <mjr_>	i like that too
Feb 03 18:14:25 <mjr_>	micro is how many places?
Feb 03 18:15:00 <mjr_>	oh never mind i think i get it...a microbitcoin would be the equivalent of a dollar (2 decimals)
Feb 03 18:15:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00069116 = 0.4147 BTC [-]
Feb 03 18:16:11 <mjr_>	jurov: that would be one nice thing about a trading platform...you wouldn't have to type so many nubmers
Feb 03 18:17:20 <jurov>	one-click price setting - patent pending for coinbr
Feb 03 18:17:31 <jurov>	haha
Feb 03 18:18:36 <jurov>	kakobreklaa: assbot is definitely missing trades
Feb 03 18:18:55 <jurov>	see live.coinbr.com
Feb 03 18:18:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 18:20:44 <thestringpuller>	jurov is lying
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Feb 03 18:21:26 <jurov>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 03 18:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066214 / 0.00068429 / 0.0007 (3568671 shares, 2,442.02 BTC), 7D: 0.00063335 / 0.00066702 / 0.0007 (14253174 shares, 9,507.24 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065922 / 0.0007 (58426262 shares, 38,516.32 BTC)
Feb 03 18:22:07 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
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Feb 03 18:22:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00703438 / 0.00736168 / 0.007395 (228303 shares, 1,680.70 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00731648 / 0.00749999 (709727 shares, 5,192.71 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00511159 / 0.0075 (6083409 shares, 31,095.93 BTC)
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Feb 03 18:31:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.35 = 3.15 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 18:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.0007 = 17.5 BTC [+]
Feb 03 18:38:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 415 @ 0.0072416 = 3.0053 BTC [-]
Feb 03 18:38:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 385 @ 0.0072132 = 2.7771 BTC [-]
Feb 03 18:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0072132 = 0.3607 BTC [-]
Feb 03 18:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00069116 = 0.4147 BTC [-]
Feb 03 18:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.0007 = 4.2 BTC [+]
Feb 03 18:38:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00069754 = 5.4408 BTC [-]
Feb 03 18:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00069754 = 7.3242 BTC [-]
Feb 03 18:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.0007 = 3.15 BTC [+]
Feb 03 18:39:44 <pizzaman1337>	kakobreklaa: did you code assbot? where does it get it's data from for MPEX? (rss?)
Feb 03 18:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18479 @ 0.00069002 = 12.7509 BTC [-]
Feb 03 18:41:31 <pizzaman1337>	its*
Feb 03 18:42:46 <smickles>	mpex either grandfathered into assbot pulling from mpex's twitter feed, or mp has upgraded to pushing to assbot
Feb 03 18:43:20 <Bowjov>	Guys, I will glue my recently deceased iPod touch on the ground in front of walmart and record video of people trying to pick it up
Feb 03 18:43:28 <smickles>	*note: i gould be completely wrong
Feb 03 18:43:44 <smickles>	Bowjov: when :)
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Feb 03 18:44:21 <Bowjov>	when my buddies are free. ill get on his car and record it from a distance
Feb 03 18:44:38 <Bowjov>	I'll put it on youtube and stuff
Feb 03 18:44:39 <Bowjov>	lol
Feb 03 18:45:07 <smickles>	How do you plan to secretly glue it? pretend to just be sitting on the ground while actually sitting on the ipod while it bonds?
Feb 03 18:45:34 <mircea_popescu>	it pushes to assbot
Feb 03 18:45:45 <Bowjov>	I will put the ipod face down yeah, I can step on it while it binds
Feb 03 18:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	switched a few weeks ago, was announced here too
Feb 03 18:46:05 <Bowjov>	I'll put it at a sidewalk so that not too many people will see it
Feb 03 18:49:13 <mjr_>	i like coinbases locking in your price (can't use my money but at least i'm not losing it)
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Feb 03 18:49:24 <mjr_>	and i meant can't use it cuz of four day clearing over the weekend
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Feb 03 18:50:17 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: is there a public-facing API that streams MPEX trades?
Feb 03 18:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	other than twitter and assbot no
Feb 03 18:51:14 <mjr_>	i didn't know you worked on mpex agent smickles
Feb 03 18:51:18 <mjr_>	very cool
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Feb 03 18:58:18 <mjr_>	i really like you guys code a lot
Feb 03 18:58:51 <smickles>	mjr_: did I?
Feb 03 18:59:01 <smickles>	i did a little for pympex
Feb 03 18:59:08 <mjr_>	saw something by you (i think) on github
Feb 03 18:59:24 <smickles>	oh, i forked it and played with the code a little
Feb 03 18:59:24 <mjr_>	yeah, that is used in mpexagent
Feb 03 18:59:36 <mjr_>	but looks really cool
Feb 03 19:00:02 <jurov>	pizzaman1337, there is rss on mpex.co
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Feb 03 19:00:14 <jurov>	not exactly streaming but i found it most reliable
Feb 03 19:00:19 <smickles>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 03 19:00:20 <mjr_>	by the way, has anyone tried github for windows?
Feb 03 19:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066495 / 0.00068502 / 0.0007 (3488379 shares, 2,389.64 BTC), 7D: 0.00063335 / 0.00066713 / 0.0007 (14293199 shares, 9,535.52 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065926 / 0.0007 (58477262 shares, 38,551.76 BTC)
Feb 03 19:00:23 <pizzaman1337>	jurov: I saw that, was hoping for something streaming
Feb 03 19:00:28 <mjr_>	its kinda awesome i have to admit
Feb 03 19:00:38 <mjr_>	the rss feed would be xml?
Feb 03 19:00:44 <jurov>	yes
Feb 03 19:01:01 <mjr_>	hate mixing json and xml...
Feb 03 19:02:10 <jurov>	how would you mix it?
Feb 03 19:02:51 <mjr_>	i mean accepting one feed from xml and one feed from json
Feb 03 19:02:55 <mjr_>	and having to parse both
Feb 03 19:03:01 <mjr_>	like depth of book is offered as json
Feb 03 19:03:05 <mjr_>	and executions are xml
Feb 03 19:03:11 <mjr_>	:-/
Feb 03 19:03:46 <jurov>	you just call rss parser library in one line
Feb 03 19:04:01 <jurov>	no fuss
Feb 03 19:04:05 <mjr_>	tbh i haven't used much xml, but is it as easy to get objects?
Feb 03 19:04:25 <mjr_>	it spits out a python object?
Feb 03 19:04:31 <mjr_>	or a dict...
Feb 03 19:04:55 <jurov>	yes, a nested dict
Feb 03 19:05:00 <mjr_>	oh ok cool
Feb 03 19:05:10 <mjr_>	i guess it won't be that hard
Feb 03 19:05:12 <jurov>	i can send you mpexrss.py sample
Feb 03 19:05:17 <mjr_>	oh thanks
Feb 03 19:05:28 <jurov>	where?
Feb 03 19:05:31 <mjr_>	maximojoshuarossi@gmail.com
Feb 03 19:06:00 <mjr_>	lol, i care a LOT about anonymity
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Feb 03 19:08:39 <mjr__>	i have been disconnecting randomly
Feb 03 19:08:41 <mjr__>	i don't know why
Feb 03 19:09:12 <jurov>	sent
Feb 03 19:09:19 <mjr__>	thanks
Feb 03 19:09:32 <mjr__>	i guess you can get your own stuff with a statjson
Feb 03 19:09:34 <mjr__>	right?
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Feb 03 19:10:08 <mjr__>	but if you want to see all executions you have to go to rss
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Feb 03 19:11:01 <mjr__>	i didn't quit
Feb 03 19:11:02 <jurov>	right
Feb 03 19:11:21 <mjr__>	oh lol, that was my old nick that dc's
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Feb 03 19:12:09 <mjr_>	i'm definitely gonna need to get some orders in on thursday i think
Feb 03 19:12:12 <mjr_>	i will be using coinbr
Feb 03 19:12:26 <jurov>	bitcoincharts down now for a change
Feb 03 19:13:08 <jurov>	like, are mtgox/bitcoincharts/blockchain on the same hw?
Feb 03 19:13:16 <jurov>	bitcoin decentralization ftw
Feb 03 19:13:21 <mjr_>	thats what i call redundant
Feb 03 19:13:22 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 03 19:13:47 <mjr_>	i'm surprised that mt. gox at least doesn't have a cluster
Feb 03 19:14:03 <mjr_>	vmware can literally not miss a ping if a server blows up
Feb 03 19:15:34 <mjr_>	so, still not sure how you send orders on coinbr...is it manual? or does the web interface appear once funded
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Feb 03 19:19:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.0007 = 17.36 BTC [+]
Feb 03 19:21:11 <jurov>	mjr_ yes once funded, "new order" link appears
Feb 03 19:21:19 <mjr_>	ah ok cool
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Feb 03 19:21:28 <jurov>	i put link to screenshots on frontpage
Feb 03 19:21:33 <mjr_>	look forward to it
Feb 03 19:21:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [+]
Feb 03 19:21:50 <mjr_>	i may try one of those cash things like bitinstant on monday
Feb 03 19:21:57 <mjr_>	can't wait till thursday lol
Feb 03 19:22:22 <jurov>	mjr_, are you going to fund today? since i'm preparing to haul stuff to mpex
Feb 03 19:22:38 <mjr_>	no, thursday at the latest
Feb 03 19:22:50 <mjr_>	but if i can find a way to get btc tomorrow i am going to
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Feb 03 19:25:25 <DeadWeasel>	apparently that was not allowed.  you just go on, mjr_
Feb 03 19:25:27 <DeadWeasel>	:)
Feb 03 19:25:52 <mjr_>	what was not allowed?
Feb 03 19:26:25 <DeadWeasel>	i think I just got booted
Feb 03 19:26:28 <DeadWeasel>	not sure why
Feb 03 19:27:01 <DeadWeasel>	srsly though, how have you maintained this level of interaction continuous throughout the day?
Feb 03 19:27:07 <DeadWeasel>	i'm amazed
Feb 03 19:27:30 <DeadWeasel>	mostly jealous
Feb 03 19:27:36 <DeadWeasel>	dinnertime
Feb 03 19:28:54 <mjr_>	mostly bored, and this is the most interesting thing i have found in a very long time
Feb 03 19:28:59 <mjr_>	i have some really big plans
Feb 03 19:29:55 <mjr_>	lol i just found girls go bitcoin
Feb 03 19:30:18 <mjr_>	i did not know that there were girls who knew what they were hahaha
Feb 03 19:30:18 <mjr_>	i'm just kidding
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Feb 03 19:38:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 19:40:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 19:46:16 <jurov>	okay, goodnight
Feb 03 19:47:09 <kakobreklaa>	cya
Feb 03 19:48:35 <jurov>	oh kakobreklaa did you resolve the probs with assbot?
Feb 03 19:48:49 <kakobreklaa>	i thought i already did.
Feb 03 19:50:06 <jurov>	heh
Feb 03 19:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 03 19:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066495 / 0.00068533 / 0.0007 (3522396 shares, 2,414.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00063335 / 0.00066731 / 0.0007 (14324786 shares, 9,559.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00065932 / 0.0007 (58486207 shares, 38,561.60 BTC)
Feb 03 19:51:14 <mircea_popescu>	ok so
Feb 03 19:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	the old vwap was just replaced with a new, much faster, lighter version
Feb 03 19:51:56 <kakobreklaa>	whats the diff
Feb 03 19:53:32 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Feb 03 19:53:34 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 219503 | Current Difficulty: 2968775.3320751 | Next Difficulty At Block: 219743 | Next Difficulty In: 240 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 10 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3252722.00578067 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.56443792286
Feb 03 19:53:43 <dub>	;;bc,diffchange
Feb 03 19:53:44 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 9.56443792286 % based on data since last change | 15.3622764814 % based on data for last three days
Feb 03 19:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	well for one thing it only lists the symbols which had activity at all
Feb 03 19:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	and under the hood muchly optimised sqling
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Feb 03 19:56:08 <kakobreklaa>	dont bother us if its not 250x faster.
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Feb 03 19:57:08 <mjr_>	very cool
Feb 03 19:57:22 <mjr_>	anyways, i will talk to you all later monday should be fun
Feb 03 19:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's about 18x faster i think
Feb 03 19:58:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.765 = 7.65 BTC [+]
Feb 03 20:02:22 <gru2>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWuCmjpvXmE
Feb 03 20:02:37 <kakobreklaa>	http://shrani.si/f/3z/OV/4lb6Z4Bi/critpred.png
Feb 03 20:02:38 <kakobreklaa>	hehe
Feb 03 20:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ?
Feb 03 20:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	o hey! pretty good
Feb 03 20:05:28 <kakobreklaa>	critticall + btc price per diff change
Feb 03 20:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	so 45 by spring ?
Feb 03 20:05:40 <kakobreklaa>	http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VQdpYEMK
Feb 03 20:06:28 <kakobreklaa>	its very raw
Feb 03 20:06:46 <kakobreklaa>	been only doing ai evolution for about 24hrs
Feb 03 20:07:12 <kakobreklaa>	need more time and better data
Feb 03 20:08:05 <kakobreklaa>	wait ill extend the red prediction
Feb 03 20:08:11 <kakobreklaa>	to see how well it matches green one
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Feb 03 20:09:21 <kakobreklaa>	brb
Feb 03 20:09:25 <thestringpuller>	kakobreklaa: what is that for
Feb 03 20:09:27 <thestringpuller>	?*
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Feb 03 20:16:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4799 BTC [-]
Feb 03 20:18:08 <Namworld>	Should I just freeze BTC-MINING trading?
Feb 03 20:18:22 <Namworld>	Until issues with Amazingrando are resolved?
Feb 03 20:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	what's freezing accomplish ?
Feb 03 20:18:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [-]
Feb 03 20:19:05 <Namworld>	Prevent people from inadvertantly buying something possibly worthless?
Feb 03 20:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	also prevent people from selling at a loss/buying at a risk.
Feb 03 20:19:47 <Namworld>	Actually I should probably post some status on the situation and let people buy/sell according to their expectation of amazingrando paying out I guess.
Feb 03 20:19:51 <mircea_popescu>	this freezing business is more of the glbse nuttery imo.
Feb 03 20:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	discontinue it is one thing. freezing it is neither here nor here.
Feb 03 20:20:17 <mircea_popescu>	there*
Feb 03 20:22:22 <Namworld>	Well there's always the link to the thread I suppose
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Feb 03 20:23:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14845 @ 0.0007 = 10.3915 BTC [+]
Feb 03 20:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6047 @ 0.00069314 = 4.1914 BTC [-]
Feb 03 20:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.0007 = 5.25 BTC [+]
Feb 03 20:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7573 @ 0.00069999 = 5.301 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 20:27:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.0007 = 4.2 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 20:28:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 195 @ 0.0073419 = 1.4317 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 20:31:26 <error4733>	who run bitcoincharts ?
Feb 03 20:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 635 @ 0.0073419 = 4.6621 BTC [+]
Feb 03 20:31:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 493 @ 0.00738395 = 3.6403 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 20:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2853 @ 0.00069821 = 1.992 BTC [-]
Feb 03 20:35:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3045 @ 0.00069807 = 2.1256 BTC [-]
Feb 03 20:36:51 <kakobreklaa>	oh wow
Feb 03 20:36:56 <kakobreklaa>	too bad mp left
Feb 03 20:38:13 <Namworld>	error, I don't know
Feb 03 20:38:40 <Namworld>	I think we host bitcoincharts tho
Feb 03 20:38:59 <Namworld>	That or there's an old account for it in our billing
Feb 03 20:39:43 <kakobreklaa>	http://shrani.si/f/3P/ej/21WxB8gX/critpred2.png
Feb 03 20:40:05 <error4733>	its down atm and all my google sheet are based on it..
Feb 03 20:40:40 <kakobreklaa>	;;later tell mircea_popescu http://shrani.si/f/3P/ej/21WxB8gX/critpred2.png
Feb 03 20:40:40 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Feb 03 20:42:44 <error4733>	?
Feb 03 20:43:31 <error4733>	what is this chart?
Feb 03 20:44:10 <kakobreklaa>	btcusd ratio per diff change (every 2 weeks), predicted with AI
Feb 03 20:44:12 <pizzaman1337>	kakobreklaa: red line seems much more likely... (plus more noise)
Feb 03 20:44:26 <kakobreklaa>	just 24hrs passed and data is not too good
Feb 03 20:44:32 <kakobreklaa>	more of a joke than anything really
Feb 03 20:44:40 <kakobreklaa>	but is fun to see what comes out
Feb 03 20:44:51 <kakobreklaa>	pizzaman1337 yes its very crude
Feb 03 20:44:59 <kakobreklaa>	24hrs is not much for somany data points really
Feb 03 20:45:08 <kakobreklaa>	this shit needs time.
Feb 03 20:45:31 <kakobreklaa>	we didnt become humes in a day after all
Feb 03 20:45:35 <kakobreklaa>	humans
Feb 03 20:46:50 <error4733>	like the green one
Feb 03 20:47:10 <kakobreklaa>	anyway
Feb 03 20:47:15 <kakobreklaa>	better solution was found 5min ago
Feb 03 20:47:28 <kakobreklaa>	for first series.
Feb 03 20:47:55 <kakobreklaa>	doing 1200 algorithms per second only.
Feb 03 20:48:25 <kakobreklaa>	second one is slightly more complex
Feb 03 20:48:32 <kakobreklaa>	only 800 algos per second
Feb 03 20:48:38 <kakobreklaa>	thats on i7
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Feb 03 20:50:04 <kakobreklaa>	pizzaman1337 and remember its 2 weeks between datapoints roughly
Feb 03 20:50:14 <kakobreklaa>	so not that much noise
Feb 03 20:50:24 <pizzaman1337>	aren't there better data sources?
Feb 03 20:50:38 <kakobreklaa>	the more data i got the slower the process
Feb 03 20:51:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.0007 = 6.09 BTC [+]
Feb 03 20:51:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1276 @ 0.00069807 = 0.8907 BTC [-]
Feb 03 20:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7774 @ 0.00069806 = 5.4267 BTC [-]
Feb 03 20:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6189 @ 0.00069806 = 4.3203 BTC [-]
Feb 03 20:55:35 <kakobreklaa>	http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=s5pdBdUx
Feb 03 20:55:40 <kakobreklaa>	here if anyone cares.
Feb 03 20:58:11 <DeadWeasel>	completely meaningless without comments, but I still care!  interesting stuff, no matter how little I understand.
Feb 03 20:58:37 <kakobreklaa>	its the algo that AI digital evolution produced
Feb 03 20:58:41 <kakobreklaa>	doest comment stuff.
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Feb 03 20:58:51 <DeadWeasel>	AI doesn't comment, lazy robot
Feb 03 20:59:03 <kakobreklaa>	it doesnt know what its doing tbh.
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Feb 03 20:59:49 <DeadWeasel>	did a google search, can't pin down what digital evolution is.  not a software package?
Feb 03 20:59:58 <DeadWeasel>	probably a statistics platform?
Feb 03 21:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7705 @ 0.00069096 = 5.3238 BTC [-]
Feb 03 21:00:07 <kakobreklaa>	http://critticall.com/
Feb 03 21:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9795 @ 0.00069001 = 6.7586 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 21:00:47 <DeadWeasel>	kakobreklaa, you have statistics background?
Feb 03 21:01:01 <kakobreklaa>	not really.
Feb 03 21:02:06 <DeadWeasel>	me either.  gonna try to get it going on wine.
Feb 03 21:02:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5680 @ 0.0075 = 42.6 BTC [+]
Feb 03 21:02:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1820 @ 0.0076 = 13.832 BTC [+]
Feb 03 21:02:35 <DeadWeasel>	haven't programmed since C++, started python recently.  hopefully this will motivate me.
Feb 03 21:03:01 <kakobreklaa>	if you gonna play with critticall start with the gui
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Feb 03 21:03:22 <kakobreklaa>	heres a demo http://www.algit.eu/download/Setup_Akritos_Demo.exe
Feb 03 21:05:17 <kakobreklaa>	and read help.
Feb 03 21:05:24 <kakobreklaa>	its useful.
Feb 03 21:06:46 <DeadWeasel>	thx, will do
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Feb 03 21:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11383 @ 0.00069763 = 7.9411 BTC [+]
Feb 03 21:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00069625 = 4.9434 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 21:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1204 @ 0.00069625 = 0.8383 BTC [-]
Feb 03 21:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11396 @ 0.00069001 = 7.8634 BTC [-]
Feb 03 21:30:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.0073147 = 5.8518 BTC [-]
Feb 03 21:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 104 @ 0.0072132 = 0.7502 BTC [-]
Feb 03 21:33:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 34 @ 0.764 = 25.976 BTC [-]
Feb 03 21:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11956 @ 0.00069763 = 8.3409 BTC [+]
Feb 03 21:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00069001 = 8.3146 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 21:45:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.764 = 6.876 BTC [-]
Feb 03 21:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 345 @ 0.0072132 = 2.4886 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 21:52:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00069763 = 4.6392 BTC [+]
Feb 03 21:53:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.764 = 5.348 BTC [-]
Feb 03 21:54:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.764 = 3.82 BTC [-]
Feb 03 21:55:28 <dub>	that moment when you are reading an email from yourself that says 'Sorry, ignore this sent to wrong parties'
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Feb 03 21:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1056 @ 0.00069763 = 0.7367 BTC [+]
Feb 03 21:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069999 = 3.0247 BTC [+]
Feb 03 21:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10223 @ 0.0007 = 7.1561 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 22:01:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.764 = 34.38 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 22:03:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 22:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.0006949 = 6.3236 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 22:35:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 12 @ 0.0249 = 0.2988 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 22:37:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.765 = 2.295 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 22:46:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00069908 = 8.354 BTC [+]
Feb 03 22:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 343 @ 0.0007 = 0.2401 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 22:55:37 <thestringpuller>	help
Feb 03 22:55:41 <thestringpuller>	!help
Feb 03 22:55:42 <assbot>	List of commands:
Feb 03 22:55:43 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
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Feb 03 23:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9087 @ 0.0007 = 6.3609 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 23:12:41 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,stats
Feb 03 23:12:47 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 219523 | Current Difficulty: 2968775.3320751 | Next Difficulty At Block: 219743 | Next Difficulty In: 220 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 7 hours, 39 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3250529.49011237 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.49058539369
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Feb 03 23:28:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2154 @ 0.00069701 = 1.5014 BTC [-]
Feb 03 23:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00726567 = 7.2657 BTC [+]
Feb 03 23:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00727194 = 5.0904 BTC [+]
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Feb 03 23:38:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5769 @ 0.00069701 = 4.0211 BTC [-]
Feb 03 23:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00069532 = 3.6504 BTC [-]
Feb 03 23:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 267 @ 0.0006949 = 0.1855 BTC [-]
Feb 03 23:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 330 @ 0.00069001 = 0.2277 BTC [-]
Feb 03 23:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2984 @ 0.00069 = 2.059 BTC [-]
Feb 03 23:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069846 = 3.018 BTC [+]
Feb 03 23:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2729 @ 0.00069867 = 1.9067 BTC [+]
Feb 03 23:43:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10571 @ 0.00069867 = 7.3856 BTC [+]
Feb 03 23:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4418 @ 0.0007 = 3.0926 BTC [+]
Feb 03 23:47:17 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141067.0
Feb 03 23:47:25 <Namworld>	696 ASICMINER shares for auction
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Feb 03 23:50:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069005 = 2.9817 BTC [-]
Feb 03 23:50:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00069 = 4.1945 BTC [-]
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Feb 03 23:58:25 <Namworld>	hello, fake evoorhees
Feb 03 23:59:21 <Namworld>	came to tell everyone no more dividends ever to crash the S.DICE price? Tough luck, enforced nick.
Feb 04 00:02:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069976 = 3.0237 BTC [+]
Feb 04 00:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11479 @ 0.0007 = 8.0353 BTC [+]
Feb 04 00:09:01 <Namworld>	Well of course, otherwise, hello, "too lazy to log in" evoorhees
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Feb 04 00:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00069041 = 4.0734 BTC [-]
Feb 04 00:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.0007 = 0.49 BTC [+]
Feb 04 00:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8300 @ 0.0073 = 60.59 BTC [+]
Feb 04 00:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.0007 = 8.68 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 00:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16180 @ 0.0007 = 11.326 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 00:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00069976 = 4.4435 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 00:52:55 <dub>	Namworld: prety sure he's just a noob at irc
Feb 04 00:54:02 <Namworld>	yeah and I'm spouting random nonsense
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Feb 04 01:14:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00725282 = 5.077 BTC [-]
Feb 04 01:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50 @ 0.00069976 = 0.035 BTC [-]
Feb 04 01:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00069794 = 2.2683 BTC [-]
Feb 04 01:23:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00069794 = 0.7475 BTC [-]
Feb 04 01:23:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2229 @ 0.00069793 = 1.5557 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 01:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00069793 = 2.2334 BTC [-]
Feb 04 01:36:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.745 BTC [-]
Feb 04 01:37:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069996 = 3.0245 BTC [+]
Feb 04 01:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10329 @ 0.00069999 = 7.2302 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 01:45:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00069793 = 2.4428 BTC [-]
Feb 04 01:56:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0097 BTC [-]
Feb 04 01:56:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9671 @ 0.00069999 = 6.7696 BTC [+]
Feb 04 01:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3429 @ 0.0007 = 2.4003 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 01:58:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 60 @ 0.009 = 0.54 BTC [-]
Feb 04 01:59:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 02:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 300 @ 0.0014 = 0.42 BTC [-]
Feb 04 02:10:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1195 @ 0.00069793 = 0.834 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 02:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069245 = 2.9921 BTC [-]
Feb 04 02:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2970 @ 0.0006921 = 2.0555 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 02:41:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3455 @ 0.00069624 = 2.4055 BTC [+]
Feb 04 02:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3715 @ 0.00069999 = 2.6005 BTC [+]
Feb 04 02:46:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 606 @ 0.00069761 = 0.4228 BTC [-]
Feb 04 02:46:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10194 @ 0.00069795 = 7.1149 BTC [+]
Feb 04 02:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2756 @ 0.00069795 = 1.9236 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 02:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00725282 = 5.077 BTC [-]
Feb 04 02:56:33 <Ukyo>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141070.0<-- ROFLOL
Feb 04 02:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.0007 = 8.33 BTC [+]
Feb 04 03:10:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069236 = 2.9917 BTC [-]
Feb 04 03:10:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8780 @ 0.0006921 = 6.0766 BTC [-]
Feb 04 03:10:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11099 @ 0.00069001 = 7.6584 BTC [-]
Feb 04 03:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069984 = 3.024 BTC [+]
Feb 04 03:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4232 @ 0.0007 = 2.9624 BTC [+]
Feb 04 03:15:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00069563 = 1.7739 BTC [-]
Feb 04 03:15:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9523 @ 0.0007 = 6.6661 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 03:29:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006902 = 2.9824 BTC [-]
Feb 04 03:29:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7969 @ 0.00069001 = 5.4987 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 03:51:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [+]
Feb 04 04:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069111 = 2.9863 BTC [+]
Feb 04 04:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11034 @ 0.00069128 = 7.6276 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 04:11:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006901 = 2.9819 BTC [-]
Feb 04 04:11:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 932 @ 0.00069001 = 0.6431 BTC [-]
Feb 04 04:11:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3047 @ 0.00069 = 2.1024 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 04:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.007301 = 4.3806 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 04:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00731325 = 4.388 BTC [+]
Feb 04 04:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	ha! for the record, that wasn't an echo!
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Feb 04 04:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069107 = 2.9861 BTC [+]
Feb 04 04:33:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3807 @ 0.00069128 = 2.6317 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 04:36:53 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Feb 04 04:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00718504 / 0.0073726 / 0.007395 (191681 shares, 1,413.19 BTC), 7D: 0.00534524 / 0.00731123 / 0.00749999 (698962 shares, 5,110.27 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00512667 / 0.0075 (6020786 shares, 30,866.61 BTC)
Feb 04 04:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, it was the 3rd
Feb 04 04:37:18 <mircea_popescu>	no big moves.
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Feb 04 04:37:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 521 @ 0.0249 = 12.9729 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 04:41:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069035 = 2.983 BTC [-]
Feb 04 04:41:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3379 @ 0.00069 = 2.3315 BTC [-]
Feb 04 04:43:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.0097 = 0.0776 BTC [-]
Feb 04 04:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00731325 = 3.291 BTC [+]
Feb 04 04:44:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.025 = 0.075 BTC [+]
Feb 04 04:45:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.025 = 0.125 BTC [+]
Feb 04 04:45:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.026 = 0.26 BTC [+]
Feb 04 04:48:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00069 = 2.76 BTC [-]
Feb 04 04:49:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 250 @ 0.08995 = 22.4875 BTC [-]
Feb 04 04:53:27 <mircea_popescu>	that's a bold bet.
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Feb 04 05:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2626 @ 0.00069128 = 1.8153 BTC [+]
Feb 04 05:01:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069548 = 3.0052 BTC [+]
Feb 04 05:01:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4398 @ 0.00069549 = 3.0588 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 05:10:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.023 = 0.046 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 05:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069028 = 2.9827 BTC [-]
Feb 04 05:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20379 @ 0.00069001 = 14.0617 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 05:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00069001 = 6.2101 BTC [-]
Feb 04 05:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00069001 = 9.1771 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 06:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00069525 = 2.19 BTC [+]
Feb 04 06:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00069001 = 1.4835 BTC [-]
Feb 04 06:15:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00069001 = 2.898 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 06:17:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+]
Feb 04 06:18:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [+]
Feb 04 06:21:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
Feb 04 06:21:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00069001 = 2.1735 BTC [-]
Feb 04 06:28:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00069058 = 0.7596 BTC [+]
Feb 04 06:35:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00069001 = 3.8641 BTC [-]
Feb 04 06:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00069058 = 5.7318 BTC [+]
Feb 04 06:37:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00069483 = 2.7793 BTC [+]
Feb 04 06:37:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00069549 = 1.3214 BTC [+]
Feb 04 06:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform you'll prolly enjoy this : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/
Feb 04 06:45:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 6 @ 1 = 6 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 06:57:34 <jurov>	lol http://www.dilbert.com/2013-02-04/
Feb 04 06:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Feb 04 07:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00069051 = 11.8768 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 07:21:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00069051 = 8.148 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 07:32:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [-]
Feb 04 07:44:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0072934 = 7.2934 BTC [-]
Feb 04 07:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 91 @ 0.00724667 = 0.6594 BTC [-]
Feb 04 07:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1171 @ 0.00069135 = 0.8096 BTC [+]
Feb 04 07:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10479 @ 0.00069137 = 7.2449 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 07:51:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00069137 = 0.7059 BTC [+]
Feb 04 07:51:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2362 @ 0.00069549 = 1.6427 BTC [+]
Feb 04 07:55:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5464 @ 0.00069549 = 3.8002 BTC [+]
Feb 04 07:55:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3744 @ 0.00069653 = 2.6078 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 07:59:51 <jurov>	https://www.cryptospora.net/bitcoin-graph.html lol i must to do something like that for mpex
Feb 04 08:00:06 <jurov>	aka "look, mpoe-pr peed on the chart"
Feb 04 08:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1189 @ 0.00731325 = 8.6955 BTC [+]
Feb 04 08:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069071 = 2.9846 BTC [-]
Feb 04 08:03:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8911 @ 0.00069051 = 6.1531 BTC [-]
Feb 04 08:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 814 @ 0.00069051 = 0.5621 BTC [-]
Feb 04 08:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7336 @ 0.00069001 = 5.0619 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 08:09:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00724668 = 2.8987 BTC [-]
Feb 04 08:23:31 <Bugpowder>	A 15000 BTC wall at 21? Dang!
Feb 04 08:26:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00069001 = 16.6292 BTC [-]
Feb 04 08:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Feb 04 08:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069619 = 3.0082 BTC [+]
Feb 04 08:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7179 @ 0.00069653 = 5.0004 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 08:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069034 = 2.983 BTC [-]
Feb 04 08:34:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4229 @ 0.00069001 = 2.9181 BTC [-]
Feb 04 08:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1077 @ 0.00069653 = 0.7502 BTC [+]
Feb 04 08:35:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.0006967 = 2.5081 BTC [+]
Feb 04 08:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2023 @ 0.0006987 = 1.4135 BTC [+]
Feb 04 08:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2298 @ 0.0006987 = 1.6056 BTC [+]
Feb 04 08:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4761 @ 0.00069871 = 3.3266 BTC [+]
Feb 04 08:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3941 @ 0.00069953 = 2.7568 BTC [+]
Feb 04 08:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00069953 = 1.8887 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 08:55:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00731324 = 3.6566 BTC [+]
Feb 04 08:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00731325 = 5.4849 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 09:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16743 @ 0.00069953 = 11.7122 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:09:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 111 @ 0.00731325 = 0.8118 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1412 @ 0.00731333 = 10.3264 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1234 @ 0.00734038 = 9.058 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:09:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1143 @ 0.007347 = 8.3976 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:12:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069018 = 2.9823 BTC [-]
Feb 04 09:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 679 @ 0.00069001 = 0.4685 BTC [-]
Feb 04 09:19:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.76252525 = 11.4379 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 09:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/police-crack-down-on-silk-road-following-first-drug-dealer-conviction/
Feb 04 09:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	aaaand there it goes.
Feb 04 09:25:11 <Diablo-D3>	man, those police are going to be pissed when they find out it was an FBI agent they arrested
Feb 04 09:25:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 235 @ 0.76252525 = 179.1934 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:25:33 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: that guy got busted for breaking drug dealing protocol
Feb 04 09:25:54 <thestringpuller>	the seller didn't get nabbed so it's kind of a moot point, since he can't really snitch
Feb 04 09:25:57 <kakobreklaa>	how do you do that
Feb 04 09:26:01 <kakobreklaa>	sell too cheap?
Feb 04 09:26:11 <thestringpuller>	you deal from your home
Feb 04 09:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	ya well...
Feb 04 09:26:39 <thestringpuller>	business and home need to be kept separate in that lifetime
Feb 04 09:26:44 <thestringpuller>	lifestyle*
Feb 04 09:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	They also found two working mobile phones, and forensically analyzed more than 20,000 text messages. In among them were incriminating texts such as "I got five grand worth if you want" and "promote the LSD I got more in. I sold 200 cubes last week".
Feb 04 09:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	herpderp
Feb 04 09:28:13 <thestringpuller>	not everyone can send gpg encrypted email to clientelle :P
Feb 04 09:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	actually the people who deal dope and the people who use gpg are like oil and water it seems.
Feb 04 09:28:58 <thestringpuller>	use dope*
Feb 04 09:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069798 = 3.016 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:29:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10679 @ 0.0006981 = 7.455 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:29:33 <thestringpuller>	silk road dope dealers never seemed to get busted despite the dea purportedly having a budget just for that investigation
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Feb 04 09:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 831 @ 0.0006981 = 0.5801 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12398 @ 0.00069953 = 8.6728 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:35:37 <thestringpuller>	http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/new-lawsuit-against-revenge-porn-site-also-targets-godaddy/ - that article is much more interesting mr. popescu
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Feb 04 09:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	revenge pronsite ?
Feb 04 09:36:09 <thestringpuller>	yeaaa boy
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Feb 04 09:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	and ofcourse godaddy would be targeted. only way to make money.
Feb 04 09:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069012 = 2.982 BTC [-]
Feb 04 09:38:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1279 @ 0.00069001 = 0.8825 BTC [-]
Feb 04 09:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://isanybodydown.com/ heh
Feb 04 09:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	i see.
Feb 04 09:40:04 <Diablo-D3>	its a porn site?!
Feb 04 09:40:20 <thestringpuller>	yea
Feb 04 09:40:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu you should turn /dtng/ into something like that
Feb 04 09:40:38 <thestringpuller>	more profitable ;)
Feb 04 09:40:57 <mircea_popescu>	dtng isn't making any money.
Feb 04 09:41:21 <thestringpuller>	so then it will make money when revengeporn is posted?
Feb 04 09:41:27 <thestringpuller>	via extortion? (i kid)
Feb 04 09:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	it's just there cause sometime x years ago i got fucking tired of bs image hosting services on web
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Feb 04 09:44:42 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what if some of the whales on mpex are drug lords and store their profits in MPEX assets...?
Feb 04 09:44:46 <thestringpuller>	does that matter to you?
Feb 04 09:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069064 = 2.9843 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:44:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8379 @ 0.00069081 = 5.7883 BTC [+]
Feb 04 09:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	well, what if the moon is made of cheeze ? does that matter to you ?
Feb 04 09:45:31 <thestringpuller>	no? I was just wondering, because that's what lawyers want to use to "negafy" bitcoin...
Feb 04 09:46:24 <mircea_popescu>	a bitcoin is a bitcoin.
Feb 04 09:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	drug lording is entirely a fiat problem
Feb 04 09:46:32 <thestringpuller>	a dollar is a dollar
Feb 04 09:46:41 <thestringpuller>	not with silk road...
Feb 04 09:46:48 <jurov>	thestringpuller, never ran into "polimedia premium" second paywall?
Feb 04 09:47:05 <jurov>	they seem to do make money from porn :)
Feb 04 09:47:15 <jurov>	you just didn't look sufficiently hard
Feb 04 09:48:06 <thestringpuller>	i would say pablo escobar would be more likely to dump large amounts of money into bitcoin as opposed to warren buffet
Feb 04 09:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	it's actually discussed http://polimedia.us/trilema/trilema-premium/
Feb 04 09:48:28 <mircea_popescu>	bottom left of navbar
Feb 04 09:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i guess that'd be the problem of the banks or whoever takes his dollars.
Feb 04 09:48:58 <thestringpuller>	you need a better paywall, since now I'm just using proxies to scramble the outbound ip :P
Feb 04 09:49:06 <thestringpuller>	when i connect to trilema
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Feb 04 09:49:33 <jurov>	yea, and emir kusturic will make a documentary about mircea
Feb 04 09:49:41 <kakobreklaa>	:DD
Feb 04 09:49:51 <kakobreklaa>	goran bregovic should do the soundtrack
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Feb 04 09:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	what would it be, white bitch, black bitch ?
Feb 04 09:50:22 <kakobreklaa>	long dick, longer dick.
Feb 04 09:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	o, did you see the pix of my dick ?
Feb 04 09:50:52 <kakobreklaa>	urlpls
Feb 04 09:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;google trilema pula mea
Feb 04 09:50:58 <gribble>	Stiti voi, dragii mei, ce-i aia taco ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/stiti-voi-dragii-mei-ce-i-aia-taco/>; Anunt umanitar pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/anunt-umanitar/>; Mic tratat de ipocrizie pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/mic-tratat-de-ipocrizie/>
Feb 04 09:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	eh wtf.
Feb 04 09:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/nsfw-pula-mea/
Feb 04 09:51:45 <kakobreklaa>	oo, not bad.
Feb 04 09:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/pedofilia-si-raul/#comment-55136 << that's a fine example of why dtng exists
Feb 04 09:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	put a pic on photobucket or w/e, link it in a comment
Feb 04 09:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	a ferw months later, "sorry fuck you and here's our site pls to give us jooce"
Feb 04 09:52:48 <thestringpuller>	wait what?
Feb 04 09:52:55 <thestringpuller>	I can't view that picture from this computer
Feb 04 09:53:01 <mircea_popescu>	sucks to be you ?
Feb 04 09:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.0006901 = 0.9661 BTC [-]
Feb 04 09:53:40 <jurov>	it's confirmed. mircea is an alien
Feb 04 09:54:33 <thestringpuller>	because it's in romanian and I don't have a translator on dis computer
Feb 04 09:56:06 <jurov>	google translate?
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Feb 04 10:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	basically it says that you can get larger versions of pix i took if you payup
Feb 04 10:01:09 <mircea_popescu>	kinda lost interest in bothering with prepping pix etc since bitcoin tho
Feb 04 10:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2921 @ 0.0006901 = 2.0158 BTC [-]
Feb 04 10:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6403 @ 0.00069001 = 4.4181 BTC [-]
Feb 04 10:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00069001 = 4.6921 BTC [-]
Feb 04 10:08:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1395 @ 0.00069001 = 0.9626 BTC [-]
Feb 04 10:08:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4905 @ 0.00069 = 3.3845 BTC [-]
Feb 04 10:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00069 = 9.108 BTC [-]
Feb 04 10:19:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2921 @ 0.00069081 = 2.0179 BTC [+]
Feb 04 10:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 257 @ 0.007347 = 1.8882 BTC [+]
Feb 04 10:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 543 @ 0.007395 = 4.0155 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 10:26:33 <j1717>	how do i invest in s. dice?
Feb 04 10:30:11 <jurov>	j1717, you need to buy shares on MPEx.
Feb 04 10:30:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.75 = 17.25 BTC [-]
Feb 04 10:30:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9429 @ 0.00069825 = 6.5838 BTC [+]
Feb 04 10:30:49 <jurov>	j1717: have you seen http://mpex.co/faq.html ?
Feb 04 10:31:10 <jurov>	but perhaps you can start by using broker instead: coinbr.com
Feb 04 10:32:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 7 @ 1 = 7 BTC [+]
Feb 04 10:32:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3421 @ 0.00069361 = 2.3728 BTC [-]
Feb 04 10:32:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 618 @ 0.00069953 = 0.4323 BTC [+]
Feb 04 10:32:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069998 = 3.0246 BTC [+]
Feb 04 10:32:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2140 @ 0.00069999 = 1.498 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 10:35:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 10:36:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.715 = 3.575 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 10:37:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2887 @ 0.00069352 = 2.0022 BTC [-]
Feb 04 10:37:34 <j1717>	no not yet new B to this
Feb 04 10:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	rthen prolly should take a little time and learn about it all
Feb 04 10:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00069999 = 5.2499 BTC [+]
Feb 04 10:43:45 <j1717>	30 btc just sign up ?
Feb 04 10:44:24 <jurov>	ofc
Feb 04 10:45:34 <j1717>	i ave a bit coin wallet but it is trying to charge a fee i thought  that this was free
Feb 04 10:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	on mpex, yes. there's passthroughs on bitfunder, havelock and btctc, and there's brokers (like coinbr.com, as a site, like smickles as aperson) that can also help you
Feb 04 10:45:42 <JohnGalt1337>	you can buy them elsewhere, bitfunder is probably the best site for you
Feb 04 10:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	"MPOE-PR, you can class action your parents if you had enough people in the suit."
Feb 04 10:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140927.msg1502894#msg1502894
Feb 04 10:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	this guy is taking it to a whole new level.
Feb 04 10:48:04 <jurov>	me too. i don't remember myself ever using such stern tone... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76506.msg1502953#msg1502953
Feb 04 10:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	what, they've not done anything yet ?
Feb 04 10:51:44 <jurov>	i'm not aware of.
Feb 04 10:52:30 <mircea_popescu>	heh. maybe their plan is to just wait for the delisting and pay something then
Feb 04 10:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	tho it'd be great if they just announced what they plan to do
Feb 04 10:53:27 <jurov>	zactly.
Feb 04 10:55:00 <jcpham>	forums: meh
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Feb 04 10:58:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.74 = 1.48 BTC [+]
Feb 04 11:01:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2660 @ 0.00069416 = 1.8465 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 11:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11740 @ 0.000697 = 8.1828 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 11:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1810 @ 0.000697 = 1.2616 BTC [+]
Feb 04 11:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10541 @ 0.00069999 = 7.3786 BTC [+]
Feb 04 11:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12759 @ 0.00069999 = 8.9312 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 11:06:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0279 BTC [+]
Feb 04 11:07:33 <JWU_42>	hrm - so it seems Avalon batch #2 orders was a fiasco
Feb 04 11:07:40 <JWU_42>	thankfully missed that drama
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Feb 04 11:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	was pretty hot and heavy
Feb 04 11:12:34 <gigavps>	fiasco is an understatement
Feb 04 11:14:54 <JWU_42>	class action suit with walletbit
Feb 04 11:14:57 <JWU_42>	TWF
Feb 04 11:14:59 <JWU_42>	err
Feb 04 11:15:01 <JWU_42>	WTF
Feb 04 11:15:13 <gigavps>	lol
Feb 04 11:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	JWU_42 expert says he can action suit his mom.
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Feb 04 11:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00069736 = 3.4519 BTC [-]
Feb 04 11:17:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00069999 = 10.4299 BTC [+]
Feb 04 11:18:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1195 = 0.239 BTC [-]
Feb 04 11:18:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 40 @ 0.1196 = 4.784 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 11:19:35 <DeaDTerra1>	evening :D
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Feb 04 11:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1434 @ 0.00069352 = 0.9945 BTC [-]
Feb 04 11:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2131 @ 0.00069334 = 1.4775 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 11:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66 @ 0.000695 = 0.0459 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 11:38:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 257 @ 0.0076 = 1.9532 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 11:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8634 @ 0.000695 = 6.0006 BTC [+]
Feb 04 11:44:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2766 @ 0.00069975 = 1.9355 BTC [+]
Feb 04 11:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P210T] 750 @ 0.2040166 = 153.0125 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 11:51:46 <JWU_42>	mircea_popescu: we are quite litigious here in the US
Feb 04 11:52:00 <JWU_42>	;)
Feb 04 11:52:07 <mircea_popescu>	im litigious too. the difference is i actually file.
Feb 04 11:52:33 <JWU_42>	heh - yeah - much talk and little action in these things generally
Feb 04 11:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.007395 = 9.2438 BTC [+]
Feb 04 11:55:05 <jurov>	to everyone who likes monkey patching by editing files on live server: http://feross.org/cmsploit/?hn=1
Feb 04 11:59:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.721 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 12:00:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 12:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1555 @ 0.00069975 = 1.0881 BTC [+]
Feb 04 12:04:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9040 @ 0.00069999 = 6.3279 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 12:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006994 = 3.0221 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8829 @ 0.00069934 = 6.1745 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:12:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 110 @ 0.007395 = 0.8135 BTC [+]
Feb 04 12:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069976 = 3.0237 BTC [+]
Feb 04 12:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5929 @ 0.00069999 = 4.1502 BTC [+]
Feb 04 12:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 166 @ 0.00730792 = 1.2131 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00730331 = 8.764 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 231 @ 0.00729809 = 1.6859 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 970 @ 0.00724668 = 7.0293 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4259 @ 0.00724667 = 30.8636 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00723594 = 5.0652 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:13:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00723555 = 11.2151 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6421 @ 0.0072011 = 46.2383 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00720101 = 7.201 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:13:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.0072 = 1.08 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:13:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1942 @ 0.00719005 = 13.9631 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1681 @ 0.00715653 = 12.0301 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 211 @ 0.00713783 = 1.5061 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.0070824 = 8.1448 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 12:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 394 @ 0.00704102 = 2.7742 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:14:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00703898 = 9.1507 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00702536 = 1.4051 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 12:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 598 @ 0.007 = 4.186 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:18:02 <thestringpuller>	waaah
Feb 04 12:18:12 <thestringpuller>	short selling opportunities gone whoop whoop
Feb 04 12:18:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 04 12:18:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.30000, Best ask: 20.30573, Bid-ask spread: 0.00573, Last trade: 20.30573, 24 hour volume: 48343.64189664, 24 hour low: 20.03100, 24 hour high: 21.05000, 24 hour vwap: 20.56918
Feb 04 12:29:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 226 @ 0.00069934 = 0.1581 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:29:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069335 = 2.996 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:29:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7453 @ 0.00069334 = 5.1675 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 12:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice minigraph now looks like a butt
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Feb 04 12:40:45 <usagi>	hi :>
Feb 04 12:43:33 <jurov>	hi
Feb 04 12:44:03 <jurov>	just got notification about deposit... fortunately i chacked it with bitcoind and that block got orphaned
Feb 04 12:46:12 <jurov>	i've got a joke for you: "now that we have paid bitcoin devs, they can perhaps make such things simpler"
Feb 04 12:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	jurov what deposit is that ?
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Feb 04 12:47:47 <jurov>	normal coinbr stuff
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Feb 04 12:50:30 <jurov>	haha, but getting notification about mpex deposits would be quite useful, too :D
Feb 04 12:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4096 @ 0.00069405 = 2.8428 BTC [+]
Feb 04 12:50:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069454 = 3.0011 BTC [+]
Feb 04 12:50:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4483 @ 0.00069455 = 3.1137 BTC [+]
Feb 04 12:51:32 <jurov>	someday i'll give up and run electrum. for mass mpex surveillance.
Feb 04 12:53:12 <usagi>	I simply cannot wait for my s.mpoe holdings to mature.
Feb 04 12:53:25 <usagi>	It will be an exciting day
Feb 04 12:53:45 <jurov>	usagi, when they mature? when someone buys for 0.001 ?
Feb 04 12:54:15 <usagi>	I thought they mature each month
Feb 04 12:54:57 <jurov>	hm, perhaps you need to ask someone to explain difference between mpoe shares and bonds.
Feb 04 12:56:00 <jurov>	bonds and thus MPBPT on bitfunder based on them do mature every month
Feb 04 12:56:12 <jurov>	s.mpoe are normal shares that jsut pay dividends
Feb 04 12:56:42 <usagi>	Then I must mean something else.
Feb 04 12:56:47 <usagi>	Your product thingy.
Feb 04 12:57:22 <jurov>	i'd think experienced investor would refer to things by proper names?
Feb 04 12:57:51 <jurov>	;)
Feb 04 12:57:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2265 @ 0.00069334 = 1.5704 BTC [-]
Feb 04 12:58:59 <usagi>	I have people to do that for me.
Feb 04 12:59:10 <jurov>	i see
Feb 04 12:59:58 <usagi>	I guess CoinBr.MPBPT-E is a bond?
Feb 04 13:00:23 <jurov>	it is backed by MPOE bond , yea
Feb 04 13:00:52 <usagi>	Oh I get it. So S.PMOE is not MPOE bond.
Feb 04 13:01:01 <jurov>	yes
Feb 04 13:01:47 <jurov>	right
Feb 04 13:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 618 @ 0.00069334 = 0.4285 BTC [-]
Feb 04 13:02:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069252 = 2.9924 BTC [-]
Feb 04 13:02:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00069251 = 8.1716 BTC [-]
Feb 04 13:02:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2873 @ 0.00069003 = 1.9825 BTC [-]
Feb 04 13:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	Network total	22.949 Thash/s
Feb 04 13:09:46 <Bugpowder>	some Trill shit right here....   https://soundcloud.com/mihkal/th-d-ip
Feb 04 13:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	those asics...
Feb 04 13:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7127 @ 0.00069003 = 4.9178 BTC [-]
Feb 04 13:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10223 @ 0.00069002 = 7.0541 BTC [-]
Feb 04 13:10:23 <Bugpowder>	someone bot the JUNs for 8995.  Not a believer.
Feb 04 13:10:32 <Bugpowder>	Not selling those down there.
Feb 04 13:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	8995 still is a tripling of diff
Feb 04 13:12:47 <Chilca>	Hi Guys, what's the ticket for MPOE bond?
Feb 04 13:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	the mpoe bond is not listed as a ticker.
Feb 04 13:13:25 <Chilca>	I see, how can I do if I want to buy?
Feb 04 13:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	you need to email your intended deposit and demanded % then send the btc
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Feb 04 13:24:51 <jurov>	Chilca, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.40
Feb 04 13:25:14 <jurov>	if bitcointalk worked
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Feb 04 13:26:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 04 13:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00069452 = 1.146 BTC [+]
Feb 04 13:31:14 <dub>	triple diff by june seems rather low
Feb 04 13:31:45 <dub>	thats the first avalon run
Feb 04 13:32:39 <mircea_popescu>	well you can certainly pay more.
Feb 04 13:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9777 @ 0.00069002 = 6.7463 BTC [-]
Feb 04 13:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3923 @ 0.00069001 = 2.7069 BTC [-]
Feb 04 13:35:06 <gesell>	is there a log  of the satoshidice secrets (not the hash's of, but the secrets that are published after their use is over)
Feb 04 13:36:02 <mircea_popescu>	not that i know of, but this would be a useful thing
Feb 04 13:36:29 <smickles>	i think i recall someone keeping a log
Feb 04 13:39:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00665516 = 11.3138 BTC [-]
Feb 04 13:39:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11164 @ 0.007 = 78.148 BTC [+]
Feb 04 13:43:42 <Bugpowder>	:(
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Feb 04 13:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.007 = 3.5 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 13:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.007 = 3.5 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 14:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.006667 = 2.6668 BTC [-]
Feb 04 14:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10400 @ 0.007 = 72.8 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 14:03:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.76 = 3.8 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2671 @ 0.00069452 = 1.8551 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2029 @ 0.00069455 = 1.4092 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:07:54 <DeaDTerra1>	Cheap S.DICE shares yay :D
Feb 04 14:09:01 <Anduck>	imo it was cheap at 0.0035 XD
Feb 04 14:09:10 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.bbet
Feb 04 14:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0014 / 0.0014 / 0.0014 (300 shares, 0.42 BTC), 7D: 0.00139 / 0.00144825 / 0.00159999 (32457 shares, 47.01 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00079944 / 0.0035 (2340020 shares, 1,870.71 BTC)
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Feb 04 14:15:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 60 @ 0.765 = 45.9 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 14:16:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1810 @ 0.00069455 = 1.2571 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:16:56 <awkorama>	evening everyone
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Feb 04 14:26:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069024 = 2.9825 BTC [-]
Feb 04 14:26:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10337 @ 0.00069013 = 7.1339 BTC [-]
Feb 04 14:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 292 @ 0.00069002 = 0.2015 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 14:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3884 @ 0.00069455 = 2.6976 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069487 = 3.0025 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00069488 = 3.3354 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:28:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 919 @ 0.00069719 = 0.6407 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 14:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00069035 = 2.8995 BTC [-]
Feb 04 14:41:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3818 @ 0.00069002 = 2.6345 BTC [-]
Feb 04 14:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121 @ 0.00069035 = 0.0835 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16261 @ 0.00069001 = 11.2203 BTC [-]
Feb 04 14:42:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0073 = 3.65 BTC [-]
Feb 04 14:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 598 @ 0.0066383 = 3.9697 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 14:44:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 570 @ 0.00069719 = 0.3974 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:44:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1630 @ 0.00069899 = 1.1394 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 14:54:09 <pigeons>	Namworld: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141139.msg1503280#msg1503280
Feb 04 14:55:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00069001 = 1.2075 BTC [-]
Feb 04 14:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00069001 = 3.5881 BTC [-]
Feb 04 14:59:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3470 @ 0.00069899 = 2.4255 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:59:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069998 = 3.0246 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4110 @ 0.00069998 = 2.8769 BTC [+]
Feb 04 14:59:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 368 @ 0.00069999 = 0.2576 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 15:02:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00069999 = 3.22 BTC [+]
Feb 04 15:07:57 <jurov>	lol what would mjr_ say upon seeing this
Feb 04 15:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	wha happened ?
Feb 04 15:09:05 <pigeons>	i thought it was mjr_'s stability bot
Feb 04 15:09:27 <jurov>	yesterday he got higly agitated about mpoe spreads
Feb 04 15:09:40 <jurov>	and no, it's not his bot ;D
Feb 04 15:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.0006943 = 3.0549 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 15:12:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.0006943 = 2.0135 BTC [-]
Feb 04 15:12:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00069999 = 23.6247 BTC [+]
Feb 04 15:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic you won't believe this (yes you will) but gavin brought consensus to the maxblocksize issue.
Feb 04 15:13:30 <FabianB>	link?
Feb 04 15:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140233.msg1503099#msg1503099
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Feb 04 15:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069006 = 2.9817 BTC [-]
Feb 04 15:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00069002 = 2.0211 BTC [-]
Feb 04 15:18:15 <dub>	inb4 Luke-Jr Luke-Jrs about it
Feb 04 15:18:54 <mircea_popescu>	ya, that makes a diff.
Feb 04 15:20:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1232 @ 0.00069002 = 0.8501 BTC [-]
Feb 04 15:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2239 @ 0.00069001 = 1.5449 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 15:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 04 15:24:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.13401, Best ask: 20.21000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07599, Last trade: 20.21000, 24 hour volume: 44775.20493977, 24 hour low: 20.04250, 24 hour high: 21.05000, 24 hour vwap: 20.53126
Feb 04 15:24:19 <mircea_popescu>	so 20 is the new 14 basically.
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Feb 04 15:25:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00069002 = 7.7282 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 15:27:09 <jurov>	BitVPS delivers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76506.msg1503376#msg1503376
Feb 04 15:27:12 <jurov>	lmaooooo
Feb 04 15:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	im kind of affraid to look
Feb 04 15:28:08 <jurov>	send the gal. she'll know what to do
Feb 04 15:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	um. so what's the problem with that ?
Feb 04 15:29:44 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Were you meaning to address me?
Feb 04 15:29:44 <jurov>	it's next week. probably.
Feb 04 15:29:54 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic yeah
Feb 04 15:30:16 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Which maxblocksize issue are you talking about?
Feb 04 15:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	you've not been following the maxblocksize most recent drama ?
Feb 04 15:30:28 *	mircea_popescu digs up for a link
Feb 04 15:30:41 <midnightmagic>	i'm on the mailing list. was it there?
Feb 04 15:30:41 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140233.msg1503099#msg1503099 <
Feb 04 15:30:45 <midnightmagic>	ah thanks.
Feb 04 15:32:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3313 @ 0.007 = 23.191 BTC [+]
Feb 04 15:32:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00739499 = 7.395 BTC [+]
Feb 04 15:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8549 @ 0.007395 = 63.2199 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 15:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00069515 = 5.3527 BTC [+]
Feb 04 15:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00069964 = 1.6791 BTC [+]
Feb 04 15:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 999 @ 0.00069964 = 0.6989 BTC [+]
Feb 04 15:42:07 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: There an ancillary issue (for miners at least) for txn verification as well. I don't really view the max block size as an issue, since I have no trouble running multi-TB databases, so I, personally, will have no issue remaining a node even if maxblocksize increases massively
Feb 04 15:42:32 <midnightmagic>	I do view satoshidice as a particularly pernicious form of evil, for example.
Feb 04 15:42:52 <mircea_popescu>	i know.
Feb 04 15:43:06 <gigavps>	it's pretty easy to exclude their transactions
Feb 04 15:43:17 <gigavps>	i'll be doing that soon ;)
Feb 04 15:43:32 <gigavps>	miner revolt against satoshidice
Feb 04 15:43:37 <midnightmagic>	We still have to accept blocks that other douches mine SD into..
Feb 04 15:43:47 <midnightmagic>	yeah me too, btw.
Feb 04 15:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	sokay, they make enough dough to build their own rigs, run you boys outta biz.
Feb 04 15:44:12 <gigavps>	lol
Feb 04 15:44:26 <midnightmagic>	The issue is that while *we* will save ourselves from mining effort, if it becomes too widely-adopted SD will modify their scheme and it'll be a kind of arms race after that
Feb 04 15:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	if you're in the business of mining, trying to save yourself from mining effort seems a little...
Feb 04 15:45:01 <Anduck>	how should they modify their scheme, midnightmagic??
Feb 04 15:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	you know, like the whore that's trying not to get laid too much.
Feb 04 15:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	find a diff line maybe.
Feb 04 15:45:12 <midnightmagic>	lol. We outnumber them both in terms of brains, and in overall hashrate. They couldn't afford to directly compete against the long tail. Not yet.
Feb 04 15:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	yaya. gl.
Feb 04 15:45:33 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu, the idea is to make SD take deposits and not do everything through the block chain
Feb 04 15:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	not gonna happen.
Feb 04 15:45:43 <midnightmagic>	Anduck: Stop using the blockchain as their own personal database.
Feb 04 15:45:51 <Anduck>	huh?
Feb 04 15:45:56 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu, it will be their down fall then
Feb 04 15:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	and contrary to popular belief, the 700k btc company tells the 50k nominal /2k market value bond people what's what.
Feb 04 15:46:09 <midnightmagic>	Anduck: They should modify their scheme to stop using the blockchain as their own personal database.
Feb 04 15:46:12 <Luke-Jr>	Anduck: you send to a one-time-use address to deposit, play as much as you like on the site; when you're done, you enter the withdraw address and it sends the balance back; if you don't do anything for 5-10 mins, it sends it back to where it came by default
Feb 04 15:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	not gonna happen, you might as well forget it.
Feb 04 15:46:29 <Anduck>	welll i like the current system,
Feb 04 15:46:30 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: If you say so. :)
Feb 04 15:46:34 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: then SD can die
Feb 04 15:46:37 <Anduck>	think if without nerd goggless
Feb 04 15:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Feb 04 15:46:41 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu is too smart for the rest of us
Feb 04 15:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	dudes, it's simple : miners that mine can stick around
Feb 04 15:46:58 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: also, it's hardly a consensus when there's 1 person..
Feb 04 15:46:59 <Anduck>	for normal gambling man current SD kind of gambling is super
Feb 04 15:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	miners that don't mine can find a job in obama's booming economy
Feb 04 15:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	either way.
Feb 04 15:47:09 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: txn that don't DDoS can stick around.
Feb 04 15:47:17 <Anduck>	u dont evn need to go to the site to gamble
Feb 04 15:47:19 <mircea_popescu>	but i did lol my ass off at amazingrando's sob story.
Feb 04 15:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	here you are, a bunch of , as tghe italians say, rotinculo
Feb 04 15:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	telling me about who can die ?
Feb 04 15:47:31 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: By the time the block reward is < txn fees, this problem will already have been solved.
Feb 04 15:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	go get 9k usd a month to pay for electricity and 40 hours week for free.
Feb 04 15:47:45 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: responsible miners will continue to mine blocks without dice spam
Feb 04 15:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	bunch of brains ? i remain unimpressed.
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Feb 04 15:47:59 <mircea_popescu>	the responsible miners will mine. the idiots will highfalootin.
Feb 04 15:48:05 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I wasn't aware we should be impressing you. :)
Feb 04 15:48:12 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Would you like to be impressed?
Feb 04 15:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	i thought that's the point of the exercise.
Feb 04 15:48:46 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: No, the point of the exercise was to make public comments.
Feb 04 15:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	ah i c.
Feb 04 15:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	well ok, how's this for public comments : all you boys together don't clear 10k btc a month.
Feb 04 15:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	and this even if we don't pay you as much as waitresses make
Feb 04 15:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	1.5 an hour or w/e
Feb 04 15:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	so, i can understand envy.
Feb 04 15:49:31 <mircea_popescu>	i can't understand envy masquerading as "responsibility".
Feb 04 15:49:50 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Trollfail.
Feb 04 15:49:54 *	midnightmagic is bored now and wanders off.
Feb 04 15:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	laters.
Feb 04 15:50:29 <davout>	someone be funny, i'm bored
Feb 04 15:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	davout why are you here when you should be fighting your competition!
Feb 04 15:51:11 <davout>	i can't
Feb 04 15:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00069157 = 5.8438 BTC [-]
Feb 04 15:51:27 <davout>	he's too legit
Feb 04 15:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 04 15:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	he's too legit for his car... too legit... by far
Feb 04 15:52:03 <davout>	i sometimes feel bad hitting on mentally retarded people
Feb 04 15:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	i never hit on mentally retarded people that mind their own business.
Feb 04 15:52:28 <Luke-Jr>	davout: mircea_popescu's problem in this case seems to be he likes to think he's important
Feb 04 15:53:01 <davout>	Luke-Jr: i'll count to three in tonal and then *poof* you'll disappear
Feb 04 15:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	no luke, you're the one that likes to think you're important.
Feb 04 15:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	you're not.
Feb 04 15:53:24 <davout>	Luke-Jr: <3
Feb 04 15:53:25 <Luke-Jr>	davout: don't do it!
Feb 04 15:53:27 <Luke-Jr>	:P
Feb 04 15:54:00 <gigavps>	o jesus
Feb 04 15:54:06 <davout>	regardless of which of you is the most important, my cock is still the biggest, measured in metric, imperial or tonal
Feb 04 15:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	who ever heard of this bullshit even, guy does 2% of the hash, is going to establish whether the one aplication deriving actual use out of bitcoin dies or not.
Feb 04 15:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	davout i take it you've not seen pix of mine ?
Feb 04 15:54:53 <davout>	mircea_popescu: i couldn't tell them apart, balls were touching
Feb 04 15:55:01 <jcpham>	i like what davout said
Feb 04 15:55:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/nsfw-pula-mea/ read it and weep frenchie.
Feb 04 15:55:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 922 @ 0.00069964 = 0.6451 BTC [+]
Feb 04 15:55:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4161 @ 0.00069998 = 2.9126 BTC [+]
Feb 04 15:55:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2017 @ 0.00069999 = 1.4119 BTC [+]
Feb 04 15:55:32 <dub>	so glad I'm at work right now
Feb 04 15:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	well tbh it's not safe for home, either.
Feb 04 15:56:14 <davout>	it's in romanian, you just made me waste one trilema free article
Feb 04 15:56:44 <mircea_popescu>	you can't read pictures either ?
Feb 04 15:56:47 <davout>	mirea_popescu: just because i'm poor doesn't mean i know how to read romanian
Feb 04 15:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha good one
Feb 04 15:57:20 <Anduck>	true infact
Feb 04 15:57:20 <Anduck>	xD
Feb 04 15:57:35 <davout>	there are like pictures of a black rod or whatever it is
Feb 04 15:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	you've never seen one before i take it ?
Feb 04 15:58:14 <davout>	mircea_popescu: well, at least thank you! i'm starting to feel slightly amused :D
Feb 04 15:58:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.75815152 BTC [-]
Feb 04 15:58:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's been my go-to for internet cock competitions for years now
Feb 04 15:58:45 <davout>	nah, i kinda feel ok having little experience with black rods
Feb 04 15:58:52 <davout>	lol
Feb 04 15:59:38 <mircea_popescu>	it's not black. it's just... pigmented.
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Feb 04 16:00:34 <luke-jr_>	davout: heh, I didn't say I was important :P
Feb 04 16:00:36 <luke-jr_>	davout: I prefer to argue with logic, not "none of you other people matter"
Feb 04 16:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	let me hear this logic.
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Feb 04 16:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	"there is one actual aplication making btc useful. we should act like we matter tho we don't and pretend like we can kill it tho we can't"
Feb 04 16:01:16 <davout>	the "none of you other people matter" attitude has one big advantage : you don't really need to justify yourself
Feb 04 16:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	o, wait. his logic reminds me of this chick i fired on the 2nd date.
Feb 04 16:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	he... left.
Feb 04 16:01:52 <davout>	but that only matters IMO if you have the desire to be right
Feb 04 16:02:18 <dub>	timely tweet from god himself https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/298536246970552321
Feb 04 16:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	i couldn't care less, honestly, but the pompous miner ass is getting on my nerves.
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Feb 04 16:02:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00069999 = 8.1549 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	so anyone actually know how much hash elgius is doing these days ? they don't seem to have it on the main page anywhere.
Feb 04 16:03:43 <davout>	bitcoin attrcat people with various kinds of mental disorders, they are an advantage in making it progress, but sometimes they hinder social interaction i beliebe
Feb 04 16:03:56 <davout>	I AM A BELIEBER
Feb 04 16:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 04 16:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	dude check it out! not one within the past hour! sdice is going to die omg!
Feb 04 16:05:28 <jcpham>	bieber nation
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Feb 04 16:09:43 <Namworld>	why, oh WHY would block size be limited?
Feb 04 16:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld you know those 2gb files on your disk ?
Feb 04 16:11:27 <kakobreklaa>	thats a problem of fat32
Feb 04 16:11:32 <davout>	word
Feb 04 16:11:36 <kakobreklaa>	noone uses that
Feb 04 16:11:44 <kakobreklaa>	at least noone relevant
Feb 04 16:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, if i finally buy an asic and start mining 1tb blocks just to be an ass
Feb 04 16:11:48 <davout>	lol
Feb 04 16:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	you're all stuck buying a new hdd each day
Feb 04 16:11:56 <iz>	it's because everyone has a copy of the blockchain
Feb 04 16:11:58 <iz>	yeah, exactly
Feb 04 16:12:16 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: SD's DDoS isn't useful at all
Feb 04 16:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10089 @ 0.00069999 = 7.0622 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:12:26 <kakobreklaa>	splitting the size of blocks into smaller ones doesnt fix any problem really
Feb 04 16:12:30 <Namworld>	If the blockchain can't handle SD
Feb 04 16:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr its business model is THE ONLY USEFUL THING BITCOIN DOES AT THE MOMENT.
Feb 04 16:12:39 <Namworld>	It can't handle anything serious
Feb 04 16:12:52 <Namworld>	I don't see the problem
Feb 04 16:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe one day it'll do something else, or something more.
Feb 04 16:12:58 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: nonsense
Feb 04 16:13:01 <davout>	how much has SD paid in fees atm ?
Feb 04 16:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	but so far, the fact that people can s.dice is the only utility btc has.
Feb 04 16:13:08 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: not even VISA handles this kind of attack
Feb 04 16:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	davout half of all fees ever paid or something.
Feb 04 16:13:25 <iz>	kakobreklaa: it solves the problem of the blockchain growing too fast, by replacing it with the problem of transaction with low transaction fees take significantly longer to process than transactions with larger transaction fees
Feb 04 16:13:31 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: you seem to not know what useful means
Feb 04 16:13:32 <iz>	kakobreklaa: which is a much better problem to have
Feb 04 16:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr no, i know what useful means. that's why i'm on the money side.
Feb 04 16:13:47 <kakobreklaa>	iz there is no iniciative for a miner not to accept 1satoshi fee TX
Feb 04 16:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	you think you know what right means
Feb 04 16:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	but that's always debatable.
Feb 04 16:14:04 <davout>	Luke-Jr: i politely beg to differ, it's a feature, not a bug, if you do not want these delicious transaction fees, don't mine the SD txes, *boom* problem solved
Feb 04 16:14:23 <Luke-Jr>	kakobreklaa: every transaction increases the risk your block is orphaned
Feb 04 16:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	davout he thinks this will have any other result than him being pushed out of mining.
Feb 04 16:14:40 <iz>	kakobreklaa: when they start bumping into the blocksize limitation, there will be -- and they will prioritize the transactions with higher transaction fees over the ones that have lower ones, since they get the transaction fees if they solve the block
Feb 04 16:14:50 <Luke-Jr>	davout: the risk of orphaned blocks from SD is much greater than any fees they pay
Feb 04 16:14:56 <kakobreklaa>	yeah but miners vote
Feb 04 16:14:59 <kakobreklaa>	what the blockchain will be
Feb 04 16:15:02 <kakobreklaa>	with hashpower
Feb 04 16:15:06 <kakobreklaa>	you cant say it will be like so
Feb 04 16:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa that's gavin's proposed solution.
Feb 04 16:15:15 <davout>	Luke-Jr: why would a block be orphaned because it includes a SD tx ?
Feb 04 16:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	and i think its pretty smart.
Feb 04 16:15:20 <iz>	kakobreklaa: but they have the same incentives ala transaction fees
Feb 04 16:15:21 <kakobreklaa>	even gavin cant say it will be so
Feb 04 16:15:42 <Luke-Jr>	davout: every transaction increases the time it takes to verify the block, which occurs before each node begins relaying it
Feb 04 16:15:47 <kakobreklaa>	anyone can fork a more profitable bitcoind
Feb 04 16:15:58 <Luke-Jr>	davout: SD-including blocks often take minutes to cross the network
Feb 04 16:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa ya but so far there's not much incentive.
Feb 04 16:16:15 <iz>	kakobreklaa: how would you fork a more profitable bitcoind?
Feb 04 16:16:25 <kakobreklaa>	by excluding the limit
Feb 04 16:16:31 <davout>	Luke-Jr: so miners will have a reduced incentive to mine them. boom, solution is built-in the problem
Feb 04 16:16:34 <iz>	but then it wouldn't be bitcoin
Feb 04 16:16:42 <kakobreklaa>	as long as majority does it
Feb 04 16:16:43 <iz>	and you would be starting where bitcoin started.. at 0
Feb 04 16:16:53 <iz>	kakobreklaa: then it wouldn't be a fork
Feb 04 16:16:53 <Namworld>	I understand that the blockchain contains all the history of each individual coins?
Feb 04 16:16:53 <Luke-Jr>	davout: exactly, that's part of why rational miners block it
Feb 04 16:17:01 <iz>	it would be a takeover
Feb 04 16:17:03 <kakobreklaa>	for a bitcoind to use blockchain
Feb 04 16:17:06 <kakobreklaa>	fork*
Feb 04 16:17:08 <kakobreklaa>	no
Feb 04 16:17:11 <kakobreklaa>	you can do that now
Feb 04 16:17:17 <davout>	Luke-Jr: so what's your point ?
Feb 04 16:17:18 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: not exactly
Feb 04 16:17:21 <iz>	sure, but it won't work on the network
Feb 04 16:17:21 <mircea_popescu>	<Luke-Jr> davout: exactly, that's part of why rational miners block it << this is "no true scotsman"
Feb 04 16:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	idiots block it, atm.
Feb 04 16:17:27 <kakobreklaa>	ofc it will be on the net
Feb 04 16:17:37 <Namworld>	What kind of history does it keep Luke?
Feb 04 16:17:38 <kakobreklaa>	iz there are many nonstandard clients
Feb 04 16:17:41 <davout>	wtf does "no true scotsman" mean ?
Feb 04 16:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	it's a logical fallacy.
Feb 04 16:17:53 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: transactions
Feb 04 16:17:58 <iz>	kakobreklaa: the non-standard clients still conform to all the bitcoin network rules though
Feb 04 16:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Feb 04 16:18:00 <Luke-Jr>	davout: it's a logical fallacy that mircea_popescu doesn't understand
Feb 04 16:18:03 <davout>	kakobreklaa: there no non-standard mining clients that i know of
Feb 04 16:18:05 <kakobreklaa>	iz to some degree
Feb 04 16:18:10 <iz>	to 100%
Feb 04 16:18:13 <kakobreklaa>	no
Feb 04 16:18:13 <iz>	if they don't they won't work
Feb 04 16:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	dude, fact of the matter is, the 99.8% miners that aren't you do mine it.
Feb 04 16:18:19 <kakobreklaa>	you are wrong iz
Feb 04 16:18:22 <iz>	i'm not
Feb 04 16:18:24 <Namworld>	So it strictly tracks x.xx goes from a to b
Feb 04 16:18:28 <kakobreklaa>	yes you are :)
Feb 04 16:18:28 <mircea_popescu>	calling them irrational is exactly the sort of popmassery that you got in trouble for earlier.
Feb 04 16:18:30 <iz>	but check your facts
Feb 04 16:18:31 <Namworld>	?
Feb 04 16:18:35 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: wrong
Feb 04 16:18:48 <iz>	i'm not going to argue with you, i'll let you remain ignorant if you so desire
Feb 04 16:18:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 20 @ 0.35 = 7 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:18:52 <Namworld>	You can't distinguish a satoshi from another?
Feb 04 16:18:57 <kakobreklaa>	its you who is ignorant
Feb 04 16:18:59 <mircea_popescu>	ya, i spelled it popmassery. i mean pompassery.
Feb 04 16:19:03 <iz>	kakobreklaa: see my prior line
Feb 04 16:19:15 <kakobreklaa>	yet you keep posting stuff
Feb 04 16:19:37 <iz>	i'll let someone else explain to you where you are wrong
Feb 04 16:19:56 <kakobreklaa>	we just had a link not long ago
Feb 04 16:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice did about half of all transactions to date, and paid about half of all fees paid to date.
Feb 04 16:20:05 <davout>	kakobreklaa iz what are you arguing about ? may i join in your argument ? i feel bored and would enjoy bitchslapping whichever one of you two is wrong
Feb 04 16:20:09 <kakobreklaa>	about nonstandard client making a rand() return 4; call
Feb 04 16:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	if you want to empty block mine that's one thing
Feb 04 16:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	but what you're calling rational is nonsense.
Feb 04 16:20:18 <kakobreklaa>	so dont give me shit iz :)
Feb 04 16:20:32 <iz>	kakobreklaa: it's still conforming to the bitcoin network protocol, even if it's not implemented exactly the same
Feb 04 16:20:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3099 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:20:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.3099 = 0.9297 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:20:41 <Namworld>	Luke-JR: ok, suppose someone has 100 BTC in his address and he receives 50 "tainted" coins. He now has 150 BTC. If he then spend part of it, there's no distinction between the two?
Feb 04 16:20:46 <iz>	in the same way linux and windows both conform to TCP, even if they aren't implemented exactly the same
Feb 04 16:20:55 <iz>	and you can fingerprint differences between them
Feb 04 16:21:01 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: spammers did more than half of all emails to date, and paid about the same in bandwidth costs!
Feb 04 16:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	and when did this chan become an unholy cross between -otc, -mining and -nonsense!
Feb 04 16:21:03 <davout>	there is no spec for the bitcoin protocol, point = moot
Feb 04 16:21:04 <iz>	but the two systems can still communicate with each other
Feb 04 16:21:27 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: Bitcoin does not work with balances either.
Feb 04 16:21:28 <iz>	the "spec" is by code, and defined by the current bitcoin client that everyone is running
Feb 04 16:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr that's possibly the most braindamaged, broken analogy you came up with so far
Feb 04 16:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	and you have quite the history of that.
Feb 04 16:21:44 <Namworld>	hmm
Feb 04 16:21:45 <davout>	iz code != spec
Feb 04 16:21:50 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: nope, it's pretty much exactly equivalent
Feb 04 16:21:59 <mircea_popescu>	no dude. there's good email and bad email.
Feb 04 16:22:00 <iz>	davout: these are rules like "block reward halving times" and such
Feb 04 16:22:08 <iz>	you can't just change those rules to "fork" bitcoin
Feb 04 16:22:09 <mircea_popescu>	there's only transactions. not good, not bad, not holy or purple.
Feb 04 16:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is tx agnostic.
Feb 04 16:22:17 <iz>	and suddenly have a new version of bitcoin that is just "better"
Feb 04 16:22:28 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: no, it isn't.
Feb 04 16:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	ya well that's the problem.
Feb 04 16:22:35 <iz>	these rules include the block size limitation
Feb 04 16:22:41 <dub>	iz: of course you can, with a mining majority
Feb 04 16:22:49 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu knows all
Feb 04 16:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	we'll never agree, and your choices are either submit or i'll kill you.
Feb 04 16:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	so... we can lay it to rest.
Feb 04 16:22:57 <davout>	iz: just because there are rules everybody agrees upon doesn't mean there is a proper spec, this has been discussed like a million times, and it is why i wholeheartedly welcome the cbitcoin initiative
Feb 04 16:22:58 <gigavps>	no point in arguing
Feb 04 16:23:01 <iz>	dub: it's not the miners that matter, it's the bitcoin CLIENTS
Feb 04 16:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Feb 04 16:23:08 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: Bitcoin users have agreed to store FINANCIAL TRANSFERS in the blockchain. Not DNS. Not game activity. Not notifications.
Feb 04 16:23:23 *	dub sighs and steps away
Feb 04 16:23:31 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: anything other than a direct financial transaction is abusing the communal agreement on what the blockchain is for
Feb 04 16:23:37 <kakobreklaa>	dub its hopeless.
Feb 04 16:23:37 <Luke-Jr>	gigavps: obviously
Feb 04 16:23:47 <davout>	Luke-Jr: please speak for yourself
Feb 04 16:23:53 <iz>	dub: under the scenario you described, a mining majority could produce a block that a different majority of bitcoin clients rejects and disagrees with
Feb 04 16:24:00 <dub>	kakobreklaa: yeah, I know this too, just cant help myself sometimes.
Feb 04 16:24:11 <Luke-Jr>	davout: I did.
Feb 04 16:24:13 <pigeons>	"different majority"
Feb 04 16:24:16 <awkorama>	Luke-Jr: who told you that bitcoin is money ?
Feb 04 16:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	davout when you're poor your only practical avenue is to speak "for the community"
Feb 04 16:24:23 <mircea_popescu>	so... he's speaking for the community.
Feb 04 16:24:26 <awkorama>	it's all just numbers
Feb 04 16:24:37 <iz>	there's a difference between the majority of miners and the majority of bitcoin clients on the p2p network
Feb 04 16:24:49 <iz>	or do you think those are the same?
Feb 04 16:24:50 <Luke-Jr>	davout: it's not about "one person is okay with using it for FOO", it's about "everyone using it is doing it for FOO"
Feb 04 16:24:51 <davout>	Luke-Jr: I was under the impression you put words in my mouth, i don't give a fuck about what goes into the blockchain, be it financial transactions or religious messages if you see what i mean
Feb 04 16:24:52 <awkorama>	(so is the universe, btw)
Feb 04 16:24:59 <Namworld>	I think every x blocks, there's some milestone achieved?
Feb 04 16:25:05 <Luke-Jr>	davout: you're one person.
Feb 04 16:25:14 <davout>	Luke-Jr: so are you
Feb 04 16:25:15 <Namworld>	I don't see the problem with SD transactions.
Feb 04 16:25:27 <Luke-Jr>	100% of Bitcoin users have agreed to financial transactions. There is no other such agreement in this context.
Feb 04 16:25:40 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld simply put, the problem with sd transactions is that sd made 20k last month, in btc. that's 400k usd at going rates.
Feb 04 16:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	amazingrando made 9k, of which he paid electricity.
Feb 04 16:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	the rest of the miners did about the same
Feb 04 16:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	they perceive this is unfair.
Feb 04 16:26:03 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: they're abusing the blockchain for signalling
Feb 04 16:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	it may be unfair, but it is what they signed up for.
Feb 04 16:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	higher level services always take the cream, commodified supports suck it.
Feb 04 16:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	this is why it's better to make ipads than resistors.
Feb 04 16:26:27 <Namworld>	blockchain is free to use. For anything.
Feb 04 16:26:45 <dub>	this is a religious debate, stop it
Feb 04 16:26:49 <Namworld>	This is my opinion of how it should be.
Feb 04 16:26:55 <kakobreklaa>	Luke-Jr, are you going to shed tears for us?
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Feb 04 16:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa im working on it.
Feb 04 16:27:22 <dub>	I'm annoyed at SD too but market forces will prevail
Feb 04 16:27:25 <Namworld>	plus we don't need the whole blockchain history to do transactions, do we?
Feb 04 16:27:37 <dub>	(because its no longer possible to run a node on the hardware I was running it on)
Feb 04 16:27:45 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: the unanimous bitcoin community does not agree.
Feb 04 16:27:51 <iz>	so.. maybe someone can seriously clear something up for me.. when a block is validated by the rest of the bitcoin network.. that's done per bitcoin client on the p2p network, right?  not scaled with that client's mining power in H/S
Feb 04 16:27:53 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha sweet.
Feb 04 16:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	where is this unanimous community ?
Feb 04 16:28:05 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: and yes, the entire blockchain history must be kept forever right now
Feb 04 16:28:17 <Namworld>	Yeah, but it could get modified
Feb 04 16:28:26 <awkorama>	iz> yes
Feb 04 16:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	no srsly, where can i visit the unanimous community ?
Feb 04 16:28:36 <jcpham>	i'm not a fan of the 5GB blockchain
Feb 04 16:28:40 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: you have a genius idea on how?
Feb 04 16:28:40 <jcpham>	that's just me
Feb 04 16:28:46 <Luke-Jr>	/ignore mircea_popescu
Feb 04 16:28:50 <dub>	iz: yes, you are wrong
Feb 04 16:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham kinda why the maxblocksize is there.
Feb 04 16:29:02 <iz>	so.. if you have a majority of the hashing power, but not a majority of clients.. even if you were to change the bitcoin client rules, you couldn't get these new rules into the block chain
Feb 04 16:29:09 <iz>	even if you had a majority of the hashing power
Feb 04 16:29:15 <dub>	iz: no, you are wrong
Feb 04 16:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr stop arguing like a stupid cunt. you say something, stand by it. where is the motherfucking unanymous community!
Feb 04 16:29:22 <iz>	how would that work then, dub?
Feb 04 16:29:28 <pigeons>	no maxblocksize is not there to keep the size of the blockchain down, i thought it was there so blocks can be verified and propogated sanely
Feb 04 16:29:28 <dub>	iz: because bitcoin
Feb 04 16:29:38 <Luke-Jr>	dub: iz is correct
Feb 04 16:29:41 <iz>	how would the old clients behave via the new rules?
Feb 04 16:29:58 <Namworld>	We could probably have a new "balance" block created every 10k blocks lets say, stating all balances per address, and work with 2 or 3 such balance blocks and cut the previous ones as we go on.
Feb 04 16:30:13 <pigeons>	there isn't "balances per address"
Feb 04 16:30:30 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: and how will new nodes know to trust that?
Feb 04 16:30:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya, Namworld, that's not how this thing works.
Feb 04 16:30:35 <iz>	kakobreklaa: please direct further questions about why you are wrong towards luke or someone you might take more seriously than me
Feb 04 16:30:41 <awkorama>	Luke-Jr: longest blockchain
Feb 04 16:30:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00069515 = 3.3569 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:30:44 <kakobreklaa>	what the hell are you babling about, you can mine offline for all we care
Feb 04 16:30:45 <jcpham>	the merkles. use the merkles
Feb 04 16:30:53 <Luke-Jr>	awkorama: if you delete the history, they're all 1 block long
Feb 04 16:31:01 <awkorama>	Luke-Jr: until they are not
Feb 04 16:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	it's shocking to see how little understood bitcoin is.
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Feb 04 16:31:39 <awkorama>	mircea_popescu: compared to other currencies you mean ?
Feb 04 16:31:47 <jcpham>	i doubt anything actually shocks mircea_popescu
Feb 04 16:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	heh... you have a point.
Feb 04 16:31:51 <davout>	BREAKING NEWS : BITCOIN IS NON-TRIVIAL TECHNOLOGY
Feb 04 16:31:55 <mircea_popescu>	BOTH OF YOU OMG
Feb 04 16:32:29 <jcpham>	so what exactly is the dicussion
Feb 04 16:32:29 <mircea_popescu>	shit. well... meanwhile satoshidice just died
Feb 04 16:32:37 <jcpham>	i've been reading for a few minutes and i get lost
Feb 04 16:32:38 <pigeons>	NO U
Feb 04 16:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	because rational miners haven't been including its transactions
Feb 04 16:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	what to do what to do...
Feb 04 16:33:01 <dub>	jcpham: were talking about how mircea_popescu's cock is bigger than davout's
Feb 04 16:33:10 <jcpham>	oh
Feb 04 16:33:12 <awkorama>	ohw is that rational? don't they get transaction fees ?
Feb 04 16:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	davout doesn't have a cock, he's a girl.
Feb 04 16:33:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5155 @ 0.00069157 = 3.565 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:33:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069003 = 2.9816 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:33:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2674 @ 0.00069003 = 1.8451 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:33:23 <mircea_popescu>	awkorama they get their fees in heaven.
Feb 04 16:33:24 <kakobreklaa>	mircea_popescu i think mtgox payes luke to include their txes
Feb 04 16:33:39 <dub>	girls cant have cocks too?
Feb 04 16:33:42 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa ya, i seem to recall this incident in octomber last year...
Feb 04 16:33:50 <Namworld>	We can probably have on those every 10k blocks balance block some hash of the previous blocks inserted, one for each. If someone cares to verify them, download the historical data and check those blocks
Feb 04 16:33:52 <dub>	THEY CAN IF THERE IS CONCESUS
Feb 04 16:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	dub they can have all the cocks they want
Feb 04 16:33:53 <awkorama>	we just switched to random talk here
Feb 04 16:33:57 <jcpham>	i think pools and miners should have that option
Feb 04 16:34:11 <jcpham>	got could pay for priority txns
Feb 04 16:34:14 <jcpham>	*gox
Feb 04 16:34:23 <Ukyo>	Diablo-D3:  there?
Feb 04 16:34:28 <Namworld>	along with its total lenght
Feb 04 16:34:33 <Ukyo>	Namworld:  too.. pm :)
Feb 04 16:34:35 <jcpham>	i'm all for monetizing hashpower
Feb 04 16:34:35 <dub>	jcpham: they pay for feeless txns, or did
Feb 04 16:34:48 <Namworld>	The idea would be to assume that old data and lenght is accurate
Feb 04 16:34:56 <Namworld>	and verify them if you want to
Feb 04 16:35:12 <davout>	Namworld: there is no such thing as an address balance, you misunderstand the way transactions work
Feb 04 16:35:13 <Namworld>	but regular users could work on the short version
Feb 04 16:35:27 <Namworld>	I know there is no address balance currently
Feb 04 16:35:38 <davout>	it's not even "currently"
Feb 04 16:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	what's a concesus ?
Feb 04 16:36:02 <jcpham>	damn where did the 99 users come from
Feb 04 16:36:05 <davout>	transactions have scripts, that may or may not be more complex than N addresses output to M addresses with an optional TX fee
Feb 04 16:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham rational irc users.
Feb 04 16:36:34 <jcpham>	bitcoin is ruining freenode
Feb 04 16:36:38 <davout>	Namworld: this was already discussed back in 2010
Feb 04 16:36:41 <jcpham>	:)
Feb 04 16:36:51 <Luke-Jr>	awkorama: SD costs miners more than the fees cover
Feb 04 16:37:04 <Luke-Jr>	awkorama: it also harms Bitcoin, reducing the value of them
Feb 04 16:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	<jcpham> bitcoin is ruining freenode <<< it is a testament to bitcoin's state that this statement is true when everyone knows how fucking ruined freenode was to begin with.
Feb 04 16:37:18 <Namworld>	How does SD costs miners?
Feb 04 16:37:24 <dub>	lilo ruined freenode
Feb 04 16:37:26 <Namworld>	other than verifying the transactions?
Feb 04 16:37:40 <Ukyo>	technically, SD is paying miners
Feb 04 16:37:42 <Ukyo>	not costing them
Feb 04 16:37:48 <mircea_popescu>	dude, srsly. stop with all the rationalization bullshit. just come out clean, say it. they make money , you'd like some, you think it's unfair etc.
Feb 04 16:37:50 <Ukyo>	they are or were a large portion of txn fees being paidout
Feb 04 16:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	"costs miners".
Feb 04 16:38:09 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: every single node relaying the block needs to verify the transactions before it sends it on, so block propagation time increases and blocks get orphaned
Feb 04 16:38:25 <dub>	and dub has to throw away hardware
Feb 04 16:38:29 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: but those fees were never meant to cover the ACTUAL COSTS of mining the transaction
Feb 04 16:38:32 <Namworld>	and @davout: Ah well nevermind then. Just a random proposal, would require rewriting of how bitcoin network accepts transactions.
Feb 04 16:38:42 <Ukyo>	Then raise the fees
Feb 04 16:38:50 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: they're only there to DISCOURAGE spammers; which doesn't work for SD because it has an unlimited supply of idiot gamblers to cover the expense
Feb 04 16:38:57 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 04 16:38:59 <Ukyo>	thts not how I understand it
Feb 04 16:39:00 <mircea_popescu>	THEY ARE NOT SPAMMERS
Feb 04 16:39:08 <Ukyo>	txn fees are there to replace the BTC as its goes away
Feb 04 16:39:14 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: yes, raising fees is the "obvious" solution
Feb 04 16:39:16 <Ukyo>	or else when all coins are mined, no one will mine..
Feb 04 16:39:30 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: problem is, until Bitcoin reaches critical mass, raising fees will kill adoption
Feb 04 16:39:31 <mircea_popescu>	raising fees will just mean other miners get it, end of story.
Feb 04 16:39:52 <mircea_popescu>	what eats him, basically, is that pretty much no miner cares about what he thinks on the matter.
Feb 04 16:39:56 <jcpham>	i was being ironic
Feb 04 16:39:58 <iz>	can't SD just raise fees for their transactions?
Feb 04 16:40:00 <jcpham>	re: freenode
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Feb 04 16:40:29 <Luke-Jr>	iz: yes, miners would be forced to raise fees high enough that the gamblers stopped playing basically
Feb 04 16:40:34 <davout>	Luke-Jr: code a forl that doesn't relay sd txes, i'll use it, seriously.
Feb 04 16:40:38 <Luke-Jr>	or SD stopped its DDoS
Feb 04 16:40:44 <Luke-Jr>	davout: already done
Feb 04 16:40:47 <iz>	or better yet, have the fees influence the % of payout slightly
Feb 04 16:40:54 <mircea_popescu>	or you got a job doing somethingelse ?
Feb 04 16:40:57 <Ukyo>	thats stupid luke
Feb 04 16:41:01 <pigeons>	iz: SD can't control what fees their users pay, and the fees would have to be very high to negate the negative effect
Feb 04 16:41:04 <Ukyo>	we are already at one half reward
Feb 04 16:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	srsly luke. bitcoin isn't for you.
Feb 04 16:41:07 <Ukyo>	txn fees should go up
Feb 04 16:41:09 <Ukyo>	to account for that
Feb 04 16:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	this is for smart people. why do you keep torturing yourself ?
Feb 04 16:41:16 <Ukyo>	that was the whole original basis
Feb 04 16:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	you can't cope, there's no rule every idiot under the sun has to be involved.
Feb 04 16:41:24 <iz>	pigeons: can't they just decide to reject any transactions that have a tx fee below X?
Feb 04 16:41:27 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: the basis was that ADOPTION would bring MORE fees
Feb 04 16:41:29 <pigeons>	yeah fees have gone waaay down since the start
Feb 04 16:41:30 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: not that fees would go up
Feb 04 16:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	do what cablepair did, focus on delivering rental party equipment or something
Feb 04 16:41:36 <Ukyo>	its been how long now
Feb 04 16:41:40 <Luke-Jr>	(fees will go up too, but that's not the main method)
Feb 04 16:41:41 <Ukyo>	and that basis has failed
Feb 04 16:41:53 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: it hasn't. SD is just forcing it to fail
Feb 04 16:42:00 <Ukyo>	3 years and were getting .1btc per
Feb 04 16:42:03 <iz>	all they have to do is reject transactions with tx fees below what they want the new min to be
Feb 04 16:42:07 <Ukyo>	make them pay more
Feb 04 16:42:08 <Ukyo>	and it will help
Feb 04 16:42:23 <iz>	and other mining pools could still use normal lower tx fee, right?
Feb 04 16:42:24 <Ukyo>	most ppl dont care about a 0.001 txn fee
Feb 04 16:42:26 <Ukyo>	hell
Feb 04 16:42:34 <Ukyo>	most ppl pay 0.1 ~1btc on normal fees to other things
Feb 04 16:42:48 <Ukyo>	its priority optional anyways
Feb 04 16:42:49 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: low fees is currently a point driving bitcoin adoption
Feb 04 16:42:52 <Ukyo>	that was the basiss to get ppl in
Feb 04 16:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	i bet you nickles to dollars that increasing the fee would simply increase the % of tx belonging to sd.
Feb 04 16:42:58 <Ukyo>	no its not
Feb 04 16:43:02 <Ukyo>	has nothing to do with it
Feb 04 16:43:06 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: if you want bitcoin to succeed, increasing fees at this point is not a real option
Feb 04 16:43:08 <Ukyo>	bitcoin adoption is being driven by media
Feb 04 16:43:11 <iz>	i think part of the issue is that btc is deflationary and can be difficult for new users to get currency for
Feb 04 16:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	no, actually... bitcoin adoption is being driven by satoshi dice and mpex, in that order.
Feb 04 16:43:25 <Ukyo>	and its anoniminity, etc
Feb 04 16:43:26 <pigeons>	yeah i think this artificallhy low fee structure we currently have is unsustainable obviously
Feb 04 16:43:30 <Ukyo>	mp : hush you
Feb 04 16:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	all the blathering online a very vehehehehery distant third.
Feb 04 16:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	well... tis the truth.
Feb 04 16:43:39 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 04 16:43:40 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: Bitcoin isn't anonymous.
Feb 04 16:43:43 <iz>	so even though a 0.005 tx fee isn't that much in real currency, it can seem like a lot if you only have 0.1 BTC to your name
Feb 04 16:43:50 <Ukyo>	tell that to the media
Feb 04 16:43:52 <Ukyo>	which reports it as such
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Feb 04 16:44:00 <Ukyo>	ppl sign up daily
Feb 04 16:44:02 <Ukyo>	thinking they are anon
Feb 04 16:44:06 <Luke-Jr>	davout: anyhow, https://gitorious.org/~Luke-Jr/bitcoin/luke-jr-bitcoin/commits/block_dice
Feb 04 16:44:07 <Ukyo>	getting to use bitcoins
Feb 04 16:44:23 <Ukyo>	Luke-Jr: : thats rediculas
Feb 04 16:44:32 <Ukyo>	your setting a president to encourage ppl to block address
Feb 04 16:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	aghahahaha that's cute
Feb 04 16:44:38 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: good
Feb 04 16:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	he even has code nobody uses!
Feb 04 16:44:52 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: that also helps bitcoin along
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Feb 04 16:45:11 <davout_>	well Luke-Jr somehow has a point, as a simple node i really have no interest in relaying SD txes
Feb 04 16:45:16 <Ukyo>	luke: i thikn eleigus pool is hurting bitcoin
Feb 04 16:45:19 <dub>	Ukyo: this is surprising to you? He has destroyed entire chains by 51% them and blocking all transactions.
Feb 04 16:45:21 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: then you're wrong
Feb 04 16:45:22 <Ukyo>	i will ask all the other miners to block it
Feb 04 16:45:32 <Ukyo>	and pools
Feb 04 16:45:37 <Ukyo>	hey
Feb 04 16:45:49 <Ukyo>	you get to push ideas however right/wrong they are
Feb 04 16:45:50 <Ukyo>	I can do mine
Feb 04 16:45:51 <iz>	oh.. it's cuz of the relaying
Feb 04 16:45:53 <iz>	i get it
Feb 04 16:45:54 <davout_>	i don't mean to say what other should do, but if i had an easy to way to not relay txes matching certain patterns i'd definitely do it
Feb 04 16:45:58 <mircea_popescu>	Ukyo it's possibly hurting, but it's so tiny as to not really matter.
Feb 04 16:46:02 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: well, I only push right ideas.
Feb 04 16:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	it's a sort of bitcoin zoo really.
Feb 04 16:46:16 <Ukyo>	right by YOU
Feb 04 16:46:19 <Ukyo>	its your opinion
Feb 04 16:46:28 <davout_>	Luke-Jr: one day you'll understand that "right" and "wrong" are just your imagination
Feb 04 16:46:39 <Ukyo>	i mean, everyone else in here seems to be argueing aginst you
Feb 04 16:46:40 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: to a degree. and miners have the freedom to ignore transactions by design.
Feb 04 16:46:45 <Luke-Jr>	davout_: nonsense
Feb 04 16:46:46 <Ukyo>	so obvously other ppl dont shre your opinion
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Feb 04 16:47:03 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: well, mostly because not many people here have a clue
Feb 04 16:47:13 <Ukyo>	no
Feb 04 16:47:14 <Luke-Jr>	and mircea_popescu chases off the people who do
Feb 04 16:47:20 <Ukyo>	pp just dont agree that you need low fees to encourage ppl
Feb 04 16:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha! dude. you came here because i'm here.
Feb 04 16:47:38 <Ukyo>	mircea_popescu: : no, he lurks everywhere regardles
Feb 04 16:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	and also, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136000991663.jpg
Feb 04 16:47:41 <Ukyo>	sorry ego boy ;)
Feb 04 16:47:52 <davout>	Luke-Jr: sense, and non-sense are dividing stuff, it's like putting stuff in little boxes, right, wrong, good, bad, white, black small romanian cock, hard french rod, these are all imaginary
Feb 04 16:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	Ukyo pfff.
Feb 04 16:48:07 *	Ukyo sends mircea_popescu  "I'm Bad.mp" by Michael Jackson
Feb 04 16:48:14 <Luke-Jr>	I'm even in #litecoin
Feb 04 16:48:22 <Ukyo>	mp3*
Feb 04 16:48:24 <pigeons>	 /j #rucoin
Feb 04 16:48:30 <mircea_popescu>	so, Luke-Jr, when can i expect s.dice to be dead ?
Feb 04 16:48:31 <Ukyo>	he lurks in my chans even hehe
Feb 04 16:48:35 <davout>	mircea_popescu: cute
Feb 04 16:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00069038 = 7.18 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:48:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00069003 = 2.2771 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:49:39 <Ukyo>	actually
Feb 04 16:49:43 <Ukyo>	raising the txn fees, will re-encourage miners
Feb 04 16:49:46 <Ukyo>	more miners
Feb 04 16:49:51 <Ukyo>	more mining sustainability
Feb 04 16:50:00 <Ukyo>	increase more interest in ppl wanting to join bitcoin to mine
Feb 04 16:50:02 <Ukyo>	and use it
Feb 04 16:50:03 <mircea_popescu>	Ukyo not rly. the exchange rate is high atm, everyone's mining anyway
Feb 04 16:50:09 <jborkl>	Holy shit, you know how much crap I read to catch up
Feb 04 16:50:13 <Ukyo>	and if blocks paid out higher
Feb 04 16:50:15 <Ukyo>	due to txn fees
Feb 04 16:50:20 <dub>	Ukyo: mining is not the use case for bitcoin
Feb 04 16:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl lol welcome.
Feb 04 16:50:22 <jborkl>	Luke, just buy sdice stock,
Feb 04 16:50:22 <Ukyo>	even more ppl would jump
Feb 04 16:50:28 <davout>	Luke-Jr: if you want to be actually productive here is my advice : modify your fork so people can filter txes they wish to relay using arbitrary criteria, like regexp on the receiver address for example, make it consensual (that's probably where it's going to be hard for you) enough so it is accepted upstream
Feb 04 16:50:32 <jborkl>	for fucks sake
Feb 04 16:50:35 <Ukyo>	dub: it maintains the network. its a small use case
Feb 04 16:50:38 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl talk is cheaper than buyingstock.
Feb 04 16:50:53 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: btw, to elaborate on the precedent-of-blocking-addresses bit… Bitcoin is only workable if every transaction uses a new address anyway, so discouraging reusable ones is a good thing
Feb 04 16:51:11 <Ukyo>	I think txn fees should slowly increase over time, instead of "No more bitcoins generated. so BAM huge txn fee"
Feb 04 16:51:12 <Luke-Jr>	davout: that'd make it slower :/
Feb 04 16:51:19 <Luke-Jr>	davout: right now, I'm not even decoding the address
Feb 04 16:51:20 <Ukyo>	or you could put in a small txn fee at that time, and most miners wont care...
Feb 04 16:51:21 <jborkl>	Well I mine- and to make more income I bought sdice ---with blocks from mining
Feb 04 16:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr that's good sometimes. fixed addresses enhance anonimity and are good for branding purposes.
Feb 04 16:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	so, it's a mixed bag.
Feb 04 16:51:38 <pigeons>	satoshi always said miners are supposed to decide which transactions to include in blocks
Feb 04 16:51:46 <davout>	Luke-Jr: well do, empower people to vote with their relay capability
Feb 04 16:52:03 <Luke-Jr>	jborkl: I would advise selling it.
Feb 04 16:52:21 <davout>	because atm nodes are rewarded for their hashing power, but not for the relaying
Feb 04 16:52:30 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr wanna short it ? :D
Feb 04 16:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4026 @ 0.00069003 = 2.7781 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5074 @ 0.00069003 = 3.5012 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:52:42 <davout>	it's either going to evolve into "relay gets fees too", or "miners-only" IMHO
Feb 04 16:52:42 <jborkl>	No, thanks I will keep it
Feb 04 16:52:57 <mircea_popescu>	davout relay isn't gonna get tx fee
Feb 04 16:53:09 <Luke-Jr>	davout: I only bother with dice because it hurts me really. not sure I care enough to spend the time on your suggestion, though I'd encourage you to bring it up as a possibility in -dev sometime when more devs are around
Feb 04 16:53:12 <pigeons>	let's ask RealSolid what he thinks
Feb 04 16:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 2 @ 0.14735296 = 0.2947 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 494 @ 0.12990002 = 64.1706 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:53:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 1 @ 0.16454909 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 496 @ 0.14947113 = 74.1377 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:53:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 496 @ 0.17148704 = 85.0576 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 490 @ 0.19578159 = 95.933 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:53:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 2 @ 0.22221004 = 0.4444 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:53:27 <Ukyo>	okay
Feb 04 16:53:29 <Luke-Jr>	davout: plus, I expect such a potentially-controversial change would go over easier if someone else did it
Feb 04 16:53:31 <Ukyo>	now we are getting to it
Feb 04 16:53:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:53:35 <davout>	mircea_popescu: if not we're going to end up with a network made only of miners, and miners won't have an incentive to relay fee-paying txes to their neighbors
Feb 04 16:53:36 <Ukyo>	your pool is suffering
Feb 04 16:53:37 <iz>	relaying is just the p2p part though, right?  even non-mining clients relay transactions?
Feb 04 16:53:43 <iz>	or is that incorrect
Feb 04 16:53:48 <Ukyo>	so your mad
Feb 04 16:53:50 <Ukyo>	and its a personal issue
Feb 04 16:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	Ukyo doh
Feb 04 16:53:54 <Luke-Jr>	Ukyo: was. until I blcoked dice.
Feb 04 16:53:59 <davout>	Luke-Jr: code it and I'll submit it
Feb 04 16:54:06 <Ukyo>	then your done, let it be
Feb 04 16:54:11 <Ukyo>	moving on to a new subject
Feb 04 16:54:12 <Ukyo>	avalons
Feb 04 16:54:14 <Ukyo>	are still available
Feb 04 16:54:14 <Luke-Jr>	davout: like I said, not really sure it's worth my time :P
Feb 04 16:54:18 <Ukyo>	and will be relaunched soon
Feb 04 16:54:26 <Luke-Jr>	davout: most big miners and pools can compile.. :P
Feb 04 16:54:27 <Ukyo>	there are a great many orders that were placd
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Feb 04 16:54:29 <Ukyo>	and not paid for
Feb 04 16:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2437 @ 0.00069003 = 1.6816 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11211 @ 0.00069002 = 7.7358 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:54:35 <Ukyo>	and those qty's will become available soon
Feb 04 16:54:49 <davout>	Luke-Jr: put your time where your mouth is
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Feb 04 16:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 30 @ 0.16714568 = 5.0144 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 970 @ 0.1706684 = 165.5483 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:55:09 <pigeons>	while we're on asshattery: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141163.0;topicseen
Feb 04 16:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	<Ukyo> and will be relaunched soon << that clusterfuck,...
Feb 04 16:55:25 <davout>	anyway, the cock measurment contest is waiting for contenders after the flawless french victory over romania
Feb 04 16:55:42 <Luke-Jr>	pigeons: best to just ignore trolls
Feb 04 16:55:50 <mircea_popescu>	davout im sorry, i must have missed that over the sound of you slurping it ?!
Feb 04 16:56:24 <davout>	hah
Feb 04 16:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	visual aids : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135153836785.jpg
Feb 04 16:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	she's french.
Feb 04 16:56:55 <dub>	of course teh french word for victory is surrender, right?
Feb 04 16:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	hahaah
Feb 04 16:57:05 <davout>	mircea_popescu: if one day we ever physically meet i will insist on an actual penile measurment being performed by a local official
Feb 04 16:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	as long as its a female official
Feb 04 16:57:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.75815152 = 6.8234 BTC [-]
Feb 04 16:58:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.76450001 = 1.529 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:58:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.76450001 = 6.116 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:58:31 <jcpham>	i'm not willing to purchase mining hardware with bitcoin
Feb 04 16:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	why not ? you too could be making pennies to the dollar over high risk capital costs!
Feb 04 16:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069496 = 3.0029 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:59:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5579 @ 0.00069515 = 3.8782 BTC [+]
Feb 04 16:59:34 <pigeons>	i'm certainly not paying for mining equipment that actually exists already
Feb 04 16:59:58 <dub>	jcpham: I'll swap my bfl preorder for your mom
Feb 04 17:00:10 <jcpham>	i had basic units on preorder and paid with cc
Feb 04 17:00:21 <jcpham>	that fell apart. i called my cc company and got my money back
Feb 04 17:00:25 <jcpham>	rinse and repeat
Feb 04 17:00:37 <JWU_42>	I iwsh i could have used a CC for my BFL pre order
Feb 04 17:01:00 <dub>	they took pp no?
Feb 04 17:01:03 <JWU_42>	oh well - it saved some of my BTC from going down with the pirate's ship
Feb 04 17:01:19 <jcpham>	paypla is the same as credit card to me
Feb 04 17:01:20 <jborkl>	they still take pp
Feb 04 17:01:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.76450001 = 6.8805 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:01:30 <JWU_42>	dub: yeah - forgot about payPAL
Feb 04 17:01:55 <JWU_42>	:/
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Feb 04 17:02:20 <jcpham>	avalon's unit looks nice. if they let me pay with another method other than btc only, i'd order one
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Feb 04 17:03:31 <dub>	why not otc some btc with your cc via pp
Feb 04 17:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	dub that could be in a meme.
Feb 04 17:03:54 <dub>	I thought so
Feb 04 17:03:55 <JWU_42>	heh
Feb 04 17:04:08 <jcpham>	dub i do that anyways
Feb 04 17:04:18 <dub>	so whats the ploblem
Feb 04 17:04:21 <jcpham>	why would i then spend the coins on something i may never see
Feb 04 17:04:32 <DeadWeasel>	dub, that owuld be impossible if you have no Wot Rating, right?
Feb 04 17:04:32 <dub>	oh u trollin'
Feb 04 17:04:37 <jcpham>	i know what happens when you send bitcoins
Feb 04 17:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham you wouldn't spend coins on cavity fillings ?
Feb 04 17:04:42 <dub>	DeadWeasel: yes, in all likelyhood
Feb 04 17:04:45 <jcpham>	you never see them again
Feb 04 17:04:55 <dub>	DeadWeasel: jcpham is WoT jesus though
Feb 04 17:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3692 @ 0.00069515 = 2.5665 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:05:13 <DeadWeasel>	haha
Feb 04 17:05:34 <DeadWeasel>	I set it up last week, now I'm like, wtf do I with this since nobody will do business w/me.
Feb 04 17:05:36 <DeadWeasel>	chicken and the egg
Feb 04 17:05:36 <jcpham>	;getrating jcpham
Feb 04 17:05:44 <jcpham>	broken ass bot
Feb 04 17:06:16 <jcpham>	yeah DeadWeasel I have no tips for you there. it takes time.
Feb 04 17:06:49 <DeadWeasel>	what kind of transactions would people consider?  like tiny little ones?  for what?  where?
Feb 04 17:07:13 <mircea_popescu>	well, do you have a cc DeadWeasel ?
Feb 04 17:07:15 <DeadWeasel>	just linger on bitcoin-otc begging?  sounds pathetic and not worth the time
Feb 04 17:07:17 <DeadWeasel>	yeah
Feb 04 17:07:27 <mircea_popescu>	aite, one sec
Feb 04 17:07:48 <jcpham>	i trade however seems most profitable to me
Feb 04 17:08:00 <jcpham>	i'm a total jew
Feb 04 17:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel https://secure.somethingawful.com/products/gift-certificate.php?product_type=register
Feb 04 17:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	buy me that. ill send you .5 btc.
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Feb 04 17:08:34 <jcpham>	i'll buy your coins with paypal -10% and sell them to someone else for cash +25%
Feb 04 17:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8158 @ 0.00069943 = 5.7059 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069018 = 2.9823 BTC [-]
Feb 04 17:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4521 @ 0.00069002 = 3.1196 BTC [-]
Feb 04 17:09:17 <DeadWeasel>	good idea, I could do localbitcoins.com for some Wot maybe?
Feb 04 17:09:24 <DeadWeasel>	except they wouldn't be members
Feb 04 17:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	...
Feb 04 17:09:39 <DeadWeasel>	this closed loop system.
Feb 04 17:09:48 <DeadWeasel>	i'm looking at it, mp.
Feb 04 17:10:15 <jcpham>	don't facilitate MP getting onto somethingawful
Feb 04 17:10:21 <jcpham>	worst idea ever
Feb 04 17:10:39 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i am literally going to make a iama ama thread
Feb 04 17:10:49 <DeadWeasel>	apparently I've gotta whore myself out to get my first Wot Rating.
Feb 04 17:10:58 <dub>	I'm a romanian porn king: ama
Feb 04 17:11:12 <jcpham>	;;rate DeadWeasel 1 <DeadWeasel> apparently I've gotta whore myself out to get my first Wot Rating.
Feb 04 17:11:13 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DeadWeasel has been recorded.
Feb 04 17:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	dude i was gonna pop his wottery over a sa account
Feb 04 17:11:40 <DeadWeasel>	OMG! you busted my WoT Cherry!
Feb 04 17:11:42 <DeadWeasel>	thanks man
Feb 04 17:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	it'd have been so beautiful
Feb 04 17:11:52 <jcpham>	it means a lot or little
Feb 04 17:11:58 <DeadWeasel>	wottery, nice.
Feb 04 17:11:58 <jcpham>	you decide
Feb 04 17:12:09 <DeadWeasel>	I plan on it.
Feb 04 17:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	very little, jcpham is a POOR JUDGE of character
Feb 04 17:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	everyone knows
Feb 04 17:12:20 <dub>	haha
Feb 04 17:12:28 <jcpham>	facepalm
Feb 04 17:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 04 17:12:41 <jborkl>	so, I missed the main conversation- how does jr think he is killing sd?
Feb 04 17:12:51 <jcpham>	bruce wagner got my bitcoins
Feb 04 17:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl power of prayer.
Feb 04 17:12:53 <DeadWeasel>	haha
Feb 04 17:12:56 <jborkl>	lol
Feb 04 17:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	thing is i kinda like the fucker
Feb 04 17:13:14 <jborkl>	I prayed to the easter bunny and the shit came true
Feb 04 17:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	but he gets too wrapped up ocasionally.
Feb 04 17:14:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00069002 = 4.4506 BTC [-]
Feb 04 17:15:55 <dub>	ssh pe41
Feb 04 17:16:00 <dub>	jesus fuck
Feb 04 17:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 04 17:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	all ur box
Feb 04 17:16:54 <dub>	IRC + audio meeting + maintenance window, my scheduler is contended
Feb 04 17:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Feb 04 17:16:59 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
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Feb 04 17:17:40 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Feb 04 17:21:27 <DeadWeasel>	;;eauth DeadWeasel
Feb 04 17:21:27 <gribble>	Request successful for user DeadWeasel, hostmask DeadWeasel!~DeadWease@cpe-74-75-235-219.maine.res.rr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/6D206C24463BEC07
Feb 04 17:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate DeadWeasel 1 Bought me SA account.
Feb 04 17:24:03 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DeadWeasel has been recorded.
Feb 04 17:24:19 <jcpham>	;;unrate DeadWeasel
Feb 04 17:24:21 <gribble>	Successfully removed your rating for DeadWeasel.
Feb 04 17:24:24 <DeadWeasel>	aw shit
Feb 04 17:24:32 <jcpham>	probably best to not get him mixed up with me
Feb 04 17:25:16 <pigeons>	you don't wanna get mixed up with a guy like me Dottie
Feb 04 17:25:25 <pigeons>	I'm a loner Dottie, a rebel
Feb 04 17:28:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.76450001 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 04 17:30:09 <jurov>	omg discussion... if they're gonna blosk sdice, i'm proposing to block silk road too
Feb 04 17:30:16 <kakobreklaa>	and mpex
Feb 04 17:30:18 <kakobreklaa>	and gox
Feb 04 17:30:25 <jurov>	ya
Feb 04 17:30:39 <kakobreklaa>	in fact
Feb 04 17:30:45 <kakobreklaa>	everything that is not end user
Feb 04 17:30:49 <jcpham>	oooh i want to block silk road
Feb 04 17:30:50 <kakobreklaa>	should be banned!
Feb 04 17:30:54 <pigeons>	ll i dont accept any inputs without a government tax stamp
Feb 04 17:31:37 <kakobreklaa>	so no btc donations for the church, Luke-Jr!
Feb 04 17:31:45 <dub>	it'd be nice if we could just convince erik to stop being a dick
Feb 04 17:32:43 <kakobreklaa>	its a collective stabbing, cant outlaw the knife.
Feb 04 17:32:45 <pigeons>	what's the name of the dice game that tries to be less destructive to the network?
Feb 04 17:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3532233
Feb 04 17:32:45 <dub>	all he's doing is giving luke a reason to be luke
Feb 04 17:32:49 <kakobreklaa>	i need it for ma bread.
Feb 04 17:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	dude im like so cool now.
Feb 04 17:33:00 <dub>	fkn goons
Feb 04 17:33:10 <pigeons>	.title
Feb 04 17:33:21 <pigeons>	!title
Feb 04 17:33:30 <pigeons>	@title
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Feb 04 17:34:11 <DeadWeasel>	lovely, mp, everybody is your whore, no?
Feb 04 17:34:15 *	kakobreklaa is now known as kakobrekla
Feb 04 17:36:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.755 BTC [-]
Feb 04 17:37:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069992 = 3.0244 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:37:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.00069998 = 0.2247 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:39:44 <pigeons>	I am Mircea Popescu! ask me anything! Q: Who are you?
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Feb 04 17:43:24 <Luke-Jr>	jurov: glad to block silk road, if you know a way
Feb 04 17:43:57 <jurov>	orly? and what if sdice starts using another addy for every bet?
Feb 04 17:45:04 <jurov>	just forget it. it's uphill battle.
Feb 04 17:45:27 <Namworld>	My god...
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Feb 04 17:45:49 <jborkl>	hmm, lets make the anti-govt free to do thinkers -not be able to do what they want. No SD, no SR, no Porn ... whats left for bitcoin
Feb 04 17:46:02 <Namworld>	I bet they do the same thing for just about everything else... so many empty words
Feb 04 17:46:06 <dub>	aww mp your thread got pwned
Feb 04 17:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	a well, i guess they banned it.
Feb 04 17:46:20 <Namworld>	SA must be happy from the advertising revenue tho.
Feb 04 17:46:21 <mircea_popescu>	was fun while it lasted.
Feb 04 17:46:40 <dub>	its just moved
Feb 04 17:46:56 <dub>	http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=25
Feb 04 17:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	but i can't post ?
Feb 04 17:47:06 <dub>	oh
Feb 04 17:47:22 <Namworld>	it's the gas chamber
Feb 04 17:47:41 <Luke-Jr>	jurov: hopefully they won't without also stopping the DDoS
Feb 04 17:48:07 <dub>	Luke-Jr: why 'D'DoS?
Feb 04 17:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea how their shit works, but anyway. was fun
Feb 04 17:48:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069821 = 3.017 BTC [-]
Feb 04 17:48:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11319 @ 0.00069796 = 7.9002 BTC [-]
Feb 04 17:48:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006912 = 6.912 BTC [-]
Feb 04 17:48:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6618 @ 0.00069002 = 4.5666 BTC [-]
Feb 04 17:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9359 @ 0.00069002 = 6.4579 BTC [-]
Feb 04 17:48:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18333 @ 0.00069001 = 12.65 BTC [-]
Feb 04 17:48:53 <dub>	seems fairly centralised in a bitcoin sense
Feb 04 17:49:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069967 = 3.0233 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:49:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4305 @ 0.00069998 = 3.0134 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:51:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00069998 = 1.33 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 17:53:40 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141067.0
Feb 04 17:53:50 <Namworld>	696 ASICMINER shares for sale
Feb 04 17:54:42 <dub>	you paid .1?
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Feb 04 17:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11984 @ 0.00069998 = 8.3886 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4898 @ 0.00069999 = 3.4286 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:55:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118 @ 0.00069999 = 0.0826 BTC [+]
Feb 04 17:55:26 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 04 17:56:10 <Namworld>	and put them up for auction at that starting price
Feb 04 18:00:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3299 = 0.6598 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 18:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham so you were right, it lasted 10 minutes
Feb 04 18:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00069998 = 10.0447 BTC [-]
Feb 04 18:07:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069011 = 2.982 BTC [-]
Feb 04 18:07:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5523 @ 0.00069001 = 3.8109 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 18:10:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 18:11:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00069001 = 7.7281 BTC [-]
Feb 04 18:15:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069988 = 3.0242 BTC [+]
Feb 04 18:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14849 @ 0.00069999 = 10.3942 BTC [+]
Feb 04 18:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00069998 = 17.9545 BTC [-]
Feb 04 18:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069027 = 2.9827 BTC [-]
Feb 04 18:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 379 @ 0.00069001 = 0.2615 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 18:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10935 @ 0.00069001 = 7.5453 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 18:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3279 @ 0.00069999 = 2.2953 BTC [+]
Feb 04 18:36:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069974 = 3.0236 BTC [-]
Feb 04 18:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00069471 = 3.1957 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 18:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00069018 = 2.3811 BTC [-]
Feb 04 18:45:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7590101 BTC [+]
Feb 04 18:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Feb 04 18:45:44 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 8 seconds
Feb 04 18:47:42 <j1717>	what wallet takes the smallest cut for afee?
Feb 04 18:48:14 <pigeons>	your own
Feb 04 18:48:15 <Diablo-D3>	[04:34:22] <Ukyo> Diablo-D3:  there?
Feb 04 18:48:16 <Diablo-D3>	yes?
Feb 04 18:48:29 <iz>	the default bitcoin wallet takes no cut for a fee
Feb 04 18:48:44 <mircea_popescu>	wallets take cuts now ?!
Feb 04 18:48:50 <pigeons>	mtgox charges no tx fees, they say not to use the trading account as a wallet however
Feb 04 18:49:00 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, its fast, and you get a much more stable chip
Feb 04 18:49:14 <Diablo-D3>	and you can fab them at sizes you cant cheaply buy fpgas
Feb 04 18:49:15 <j1717>	bitcoin qt just charged me .0045 fee
Feb 04 18:49:23 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: that was originally gavin's company's whole business model, something like 1%-5% fees for strongcoin web wallet
Feb 04 18:50:09 <iz>	j1717: those are transaction fees, and happen whenver you do transactions anywhere with bitcoin
Feb 04 18:50:14 <pigeons>	j1717: well that fee was determined necessary to be accepted. perhaps you could manually create the tx and hope it still gets included with no fee, but comeone
Feb 04 18:50:42 <pigeons>	j1717: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees
Feb 04 18:50:52 <iz>	(unless you use an old or hacked client to do 0 fee transactions, which will take forever to actually get accepted
Feb 04 18:52:20 <pigeons>	yeah 1% on strongcoin
Feb 04 18:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 871 @ 0.00069018 = 0.6011 BTC [-]
Feb 04 18:53:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1329 @ 0.00069001 = 0.917 BTC [-]
Feb 04 18:54:37 <pigeons>	https://www.strongcoin.com/en/blog/frequently_asked_questions How secure are your servers ? StrongCoin is hosted on Heroku
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Feb 04 19:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	wait. what ?!
Feb 04 19:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	gavin was involved with strongcoin ?!
Feb 04 19:04:29 <pigeons>	uh yeah
Feb 04 19:04:44 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: so what does btcbond's news mean for btcmining?
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Feb 04 19:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	ugh. i thought solidcoin was this ridiculous one man fork which had like, imaginary nodes with "unspendable" millions and other hacky 16 yo nonsense
Feb 04 19:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	am i confusing it ?!
Feb 04 19:06:44 <pigeons>	i remember that, it may have been called that, but strongcoins.com is a web wallet. they used to employ gavin, i don't know currently
Feb 04 19:06:51 <pigeons>	*strongcoin.com
Feb 04 19:07:53 <Ukyo>	Diablo-D3:
Feb 04 19:07:54 <Ukyo>	pm
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Feb 04 19:11:29 <mjr_>	hi all
Feb 04 19:11:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 13 @ 0.0242 = 0.3146 BTC [-]
Feb 04 19:11:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 12 @ 0.0242 = 0.2904 BTC [-]
Feb 04 19:12:55 <Xelv3t>	!help
Feb 04 19:12:56 <assbot>	List of commands:
Feb 04 19:12:57 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Feb 04 19:13:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.745 BTC [-]
Feb 04 19:13:26 <Namworld>	means I'll probably have to sue amazingrando. I'm not sure our conversation records are sufficient at all for this.
Feb 04 19:14:07 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 04 19:14:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.47411, Best ask: 20.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17589, Last trade: 20.47411, 24 hour volume: 52068.35970111, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 21.05000, 24 hour vwap: 20.42514
Feb 04 19:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	sue over 250 btc ?
Feb 04 19:14:32 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: you could loan one of your avalon units to btc-mining
Feb 04 19:14:40 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: its more than that
Feb 04 19:14:47 <mircea_popescu>	a
Feb 04 19:14:59 <Diablo-D3>	its in the thousands I think
Feb 04 19:15:00 <Namworld>	2369 BTC*
Feb 04 19:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	o no way ?!
Feb 04 19:15:11 <Diablo-D3>	and 106 of that btc is mine
Feb 04 19:15:15 <Namworld>	aye
Feb 04 19:15:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7590101 BTC [+]
Feb 04 19:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	so how come you're not one of the 85%
Feb 04 19:15:39 <mircea_popescu>	he didn't get much more than 30k total, did he ?
Feb 04 19:17:07 <Namworld>	100000 bonds x .6 BTC = 60k BTC?
Feb 04 19:17:21 <Namworld>	Approximated
Feb 04 19:18:20 <Namworld>	I don't think he sold all his hashing at that price
Feb 04 19:18:37 <Namworld>	but there's like no margin kept for the operation's expense?!?
Feb 04 19:18:48 <Namworld>	He sold all the hashing it seems
Feb 04 19:18:56 <Namworld>	perpetual
Feb 04 19:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	well the terms keep shifting around, but anyway.
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Feb 04 19:21:42 <Namworld>	He should refit his rig for some other purpose. A 600 GPU cluster could propably fetch more by being rented as such than the 15k he makes mining per month.
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Feb 04 19:22:43 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Feb 04 19:22:58 <DeadWeasel>	;;eauth DeadWeasel
Feb 04 19:22:58 <gribble>	Request successful for user DeadWeasel, hostmask DeadWeasel!~DeadWease@108-61-55-67ch.openskytelcom.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/6D206C24463BEC07
Feb 04 19:23:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 130 @ 0.00736659 = 0.9577 BTC [-]
Feb 04 19:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	doing what ?
Feb 04 19:23:55 <DeadWeasel>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0759d0648d6f1f549ad334ff7accb25268c0bbb8c1642dda1b42e781
Feb 04 19:23:56 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Feb 04 19:24:08 <Namworld>	calculations. GPU clusters are good for various computational needs.
Feb 04 19:24:15 <Namworld>	Not just bitcoin hashing...
Feb 04 19:24:30 <mircea_popescu>	sounds vague.
Feb 04 19:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	aanyway, i'm impressed with the entire "rigs are worthless now that you've bought them for me" stuff
Feb 04 19:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	literally not one single miner, large or small, has done anything else
Feb 04 19:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	maybe just tag the lot of them and be done with it. persecution of miners.
Feb 04 19:25:56 <DeadWeasel>	;;rate mircea_popescu 1
Feb 04 19:25:57 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
Feb 04 19:26:06 <DeadWeasel>	thx for the help mircea_popescu
Feb 04 19:26:14 <DeadWeasel>	gotta start somewhere.
Feb 04 19:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	sure
Feb 04 19:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	o btw!
Feb 04 19:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate DeadWeasel -1 THAT CODE WAS DEFFECTIVE
Feb 04 19:26:32 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system.
Feb 04 19:26:48 <DeadWeasel>	what?
Feb 04 19:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 04 19:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	jus' messin with ya
Feb 04 19:27:01 <mircea_popescu>	they DID ban me tho
Feb 04 19:27:05 <DeadWeasel>	christ on crutches
Feb 04 19:27:06 <mircea_popescu>	but i doubt you had anything to do with it.
Feb 04 19:27:16 <DeadWeasel>	you can do that fine for yourself, clearly
Feb 04 19:27:17 <pigeons>	;;rate DeadWeasel -2 trusts mircea_popescu
Feb 04 19:27:19 <kakobrekla>	already banned?
Feb 04 19:27:20 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -2 for user DeadWeasel has been recorded.
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Feb 04 19:27:29 <DeadWeasel>	jessus christ
Feb 04 19:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla literally 10 minutes.
Feb 04 19:27:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol poor guy had a heart attack
Feb 04 19:27:49 <pigeons>	;;unrate DeadWeasel
Feb 04 19:27:49 <DeadWeasel>	um, seriously, could ya'll reverse that shit?
Feb 04 19:27:50 <gribble>	Successfully removed your rating for DeadWeasel.
Feb 04 19:27:53 <DeadWeasel>	thanks
Feb 04 19:28:05 <DeadWeasel>	WoT has less meaning to it after this experience.
Feb 04 19:28:07 <kakobrekla>	and i was just bout ;;rate pigeons -3 rates cause of ratings!
Feb 04 19:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	lmao RATEWAR!
Feb 04 19:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel wot is meaningless in itself.
Feb 04 19:28:31 <DeadWeasel>	I see that now.. learning is fun.
Feb 04 19:28:32 <mircea_popescu>	you gotta understand it to use it to any effect.
Feb 04 19:28:57 <DeadWeasel>	experience is the best teacher.  unless you've got guide??
Feb 04 19:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	how old are you if you don't mind my asking ?
Feb 04 19:29:40 <Namworld>	vague? I think GPU clusters can be used for graphical rendering... simulations... password cracking
Feb 04 19:29:44 <DeadWeasel>	first lesson, believeing WoT is actually a safe haven for doing business is false.
Feb 04 19:29:44 <Namworld>	that sort of things
Feb 04 19:30:00 <kakobrekla>	second lesson, dont tell your age to MP.
Feb 04 19:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel it is. it's just not easy to game.
Feb 04 19:30:40 <Namworld>	I'm not sure how you can use them exactly. I just know many companies rent GPU clusters. And price is usually hefty
Feb 04 19:30:48 <pigeons>	yeah but who is paying for third party gpu work?
Feb 04 19:31:01 <Namworld>	Would probably involve a lot of work and expenses for amazingrando to refit tho
Feb 04 19:31:05 <pigeons>	i have seen some deals for password cracking, but they weren't steady jobs
Feb 04 19:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld unless you know someione specifically paying 15001 right now
Feb 04 19:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's vague
Feb 04 19:31:18 <Namworld>	aye
Feb 04 19:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6023 @ 0.00069383 = 4.1789 BTC [+]
Feb 04 19:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12077 @ 0.00069001 = 8.3333 BTC [-]
Feb 04 19:31:58 <DeadWeasel>	http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3532233
Feb 04 19:32:04 <DeadWeasel>	this really turned out well.
Feb 04 19:32:30 <DeadWeasel>	there are more twats on SometingAweful than bitcointalk
Feb 04 19:32:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol ya
Feb 04 19:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	still. i had 10 bux worth of fun
Feb 04 19:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	and i think i owned them worth half a buttcoin
Feb 04 19:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	like... a cheekcoin
Feb 04 19:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	's wort
Feb 04 19:33:06 <DeadWeasel>	no doubt.
Feb 04 19:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what burned more, the "i can't distinguish you from reddit" part or the "paid for account with buttcoins" part.
Feb 04 19:40:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 19:44:23 <mircea_popescu>	well anyway. that's enough exciteement for one day.
Feb 04 19:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	take it ezzy all
Feb 04 19:44:45 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 04 19:44:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.49673, Best ask: 20.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.20326, Last trade: 20.49671, 24 hour volume: 52397.98545826, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 21.05000, 24 hour vwap: 20.42687
Feb 04 19:44:55 <DeadWeasel>	adios
Feb 04 19:45:37 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 253 * 20.49 / 1500
Feb 04 19:45:37 <gribble>	3.45598
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Feb 04 19:47:06 <evoorhees>	what's the excitement mircea was referring to?
Feb 04 19:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069967 = 3.0233 BTC [+]
Feb 04 19:52:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Feb 04 19:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1754 @ 0.00069999 = 1.2278 BTC [+]
Feb 04 19:55:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2646 @ 0.00069999 = 1.8522 BTC [+]
Feb 04 19:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00739498 = 14.79 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 20:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27354 @ 0.00069999 = 19.1475 BTC [+]
Feb 04 20:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18046 @ 0.0007 = 12.6322 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 20:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.0007 = 5.18 BTC [+]
Feb 04 20:09:15 <jurov>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 04 20:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069 / 0.00069519 / 0.0007 (1633578 shares, 1,135.65 BTC), 7D: 0.00063335 / 0.00067201 / 0.0007 (14616152 shares, 9,822.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066036 / 0.0007 (59712317 shares, 39,432.04 BTC)
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Feb 04 20:24:17 <error4733>	congratz for BitMillions, looks good
Feb 04 20:25:49 <error4733>	no luck so far but it's smooth & easy
Feb 04 20:26:00 <thestringpuller>	last ipo wall is going down?
Feb 04 20:27:06 <thestringpuller>	http://pizzaforcoins.com/ <- wut?
Feb 04 20:28:37 <ShaTwo>	error4733: Thanks.
Feb 04 20:29:12 <ShaTwo>	We are working in some details for the site… and hopefully fix some minor problems..
Feb 04 20:29:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.0007 = 6.93 BTC [+]
Feb 04 20:30:02 <ShaTwo>	The best news is than the backend is been working perfectly, with out a single problem
Feb 04 20:35:35 <JohnGalt1337>	oh nice somebody won the lowest jackpot
Feb 04 20:38:25 <ShaTwo>	Yep.. we actually have 5 ticket hitting the #2 Pool
Feb 04 20:38:40 <ShaTwo>	Highest on 28.45 BTC
Feb 04 20:38:58 <thestringpuller>	I wish you luck ShaTwo ;)
Feb 04 20:39:01 <thestringpuller>	how many you got on your team?
Feb 04 20:39:12 <ShaTwo>	Thanks thestringpuller :)
Feb 04 20:39:26 <ShaTwo>	We will work hard to make it work..
Feb 04 20:40:33 <ShaTwo>	I was making a comparison with State Lotteries today ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140349.msg1503607#msg1503607 )
Feb 04 20:41:36 <ShaTwo>	And with $10.000.000 on tickets sold, players get only $2.223.000 in prizes ( Estimate )
Feb 04 20:41:53 <ShaTwo>	And with us $9.300.000
Feb 04 20:43:32 <ShaTwo>	And lotteriges world wide is a huge multi billon market ( http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/econ/lottery-payouts-and-state-revenue-2010.aspx )
Feb 04 20:44:09 <ShaTwo>	Worldwide lottery sales were almost $262 billion in 2011 ( http://www.scigames.com/sections/industry-information/lottery-industry.aspx )
Feb 04 20:44:35 <ShaTwo>	Soon we will be looking for regional partners in case somebody is interested..
Feb 04 20:45:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.0007 = 0.42 BTC [+]
Feb 04 20:46:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9179 @ 0.00069973 = 6.4228 BTC [-]
Feb 04 20:46:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4221 @ 0.00069537 = 2.9352 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 21:05:13 <usagi>	Hi John
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Feb 04 21:15:56 <dub>	someone post on buttcointalk about SA accepting btc for memberships
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Feb 04 21:24:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.33 = 1.32 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 22:15:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.007 = 0.7 BTC [-]
Feb 04 22:17:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0069 = 3.45 BTC [-]
Feb 04 22:18:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0068 = 6.8 BTC [-]
Feb 04 22:19:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0242 = 0.0484 BTC [-]
Feb 04 22:20:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0241 = 0.241 BTC [-]
Feb 04 22:21:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.024 = 0.24 BTC [-]
Feb 04 22:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069862 = 3.0187 BTC [+]
Feb 04 22:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4129 @ 0.00069839 = 2.8837 BTC [-]
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Feb 04 22:31:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00069976 = 2.7291 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 22:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 421 @ 0.00069976 = 0.2946 BTC [+]
Feb 04 22:36:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3229 @ 0.0007 = 2.2603 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 22:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.0007 = 9.73 BTC [+]
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Feb 04 22:53:39 <pigeons>	.0007, what is gox gonna buy mpex or something
Feb 04 22:56:27 <Namworld>	It already reach that price a few times
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Feb 04 23:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1659 @ 0.00738647 = 12.2542 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 670 @ 0.00736659 = 4.9356 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00682471 = 7.5072 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0068247 = 20.4741 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1267 @ 0.00682467 = 8.6469 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00660626 = 33.0313 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00660625 = 7.5972 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11000 @ 0.0066 = 72.6 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0065 = 32.5 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00645043 = 9.6756 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00604708 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.006 = 60 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.005931 = 2.9655 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 138 @ 0.00593098 = 0.8185 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0046 = 13.8 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.0045 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:11:59 <evoorhees>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.720
Feb 04 23:12:02 <evoorhees>	merry christmas
Feb 04 23:14:25 <dub>	hmm
Feb 04 23:14:35 <pizzaman1337>	evoorhees: over what period of time will these next tranches be released?
Feb 04 23:14:46 <evoorhees>	not sure yet
Feb 04 23:14:57 <evoorhees>	do you have a recommendation?
Feb 04 23:15:46 <kakobrekla>	@ 0.0045
Feb 04 23:15:51 <kakobrekla>	what kind of a weak dump was this
Feb 04 23:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0044 = 1.76 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:16:28 <pizzaman1337>	evoorhees: well, let's see how the market handles it
Feb 04 23:16:34 <kakobrekla>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE
Feb 04 23:16:34 <evoorhees>	yeah that's what I figure
Feb 04 23:16:36 <kakobrekla>	o lol wtf
Feb 04 23:16:38 <dub>	hope nobody wanted to sell at market value any time soon
Feb 04 23:16:45 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Feb 04 23:16:46 <kakobrekla>	0.00440000 @ 908`708
Feb 04 23:16:46 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Feb 04 23:16:49 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 04 23:16:49 <kakobrekla>	buy time anyone?
Feb 04 23:16:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.41000, Best ask: 20.44997, Bid-ask spread: 0.03997, Last trade: 20.41002, 24 hour volume: 52520.12425233, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 21.05000, 24 hour vwap: 20.40577
Feb 04 23:17:06 <kakobrekla>	imma gonna get sum.
Feb 04 23:17:26 <Namworld>	I already got 50k =/
Feb 04 23:18:04 <evoorhees>	I thought I could sell some at market price, but it would take a long time, and if I release them way under market than the long-time holders will probably appreciate the opportunity
Feb 04 23:18:19 <dub>	thouse that want out might not
Feb 04 23:18:23 <dub>	those*
Feb 04 23:18:40 <Namworld>	I'm not sure it's that great an idea tho but eh
Feb 04 23:18:57 <pizzaman1337>	pretty big looking wall.. http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.DICE
Feb 04 23:19:05 <dub>	its pretty fucking retarded impo
Feb 04 23:19:28 <evoorhees>	if the accurate price is the current market price around .007, then by releasing shares under that price the buyers get significant value
Feb 04 23:19:47 <evoorhees>	dub - why?
Feb 04 23:20:01 <dub>	because anyone other than you looking to take profits is fucked?
Feb 04 23:20:23 <dub>	you just ~halved theirinvestment
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Feb 04 23:20:46 <evoorhees>	well yeah... if their time horizon is days
Feb 04 23:21:08 <pigeons>	current market price is .0044 ;) not .007
Feb 04 23:21:14 <evoorhees>	SD is not a stock for daytrading... it's an income generating asset
Feb 04 23:21:19 <dub>	clearly
Feb 04 23:21:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.73 = 7.3 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:21:50 <jborkl>	Why the dump?
Feb 04 23:21:51 <dub>	thanks for making that clear in a transparent and open way instead of taking a shitload of cash for yourself with no notice
Feb 04 23:22:13 <jborkl>	Oh, Eric you selling some
Feb 04 23:22:44 <evoorhees>	clearly you're angry dub... sorry to have upset you
Feb 04 23:22:59 <dub>	im not angry what you did is rather unusual
Feb 04 23:23:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.728 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:23:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.725 = 4.35 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:23:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.72 = 2.16 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:24:00 <evoorhees>	well, I'm seeing how this goes with 1m shares. If I made a mistake then I'll learn and won't do it again
Feb 04 23:24:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.72 = 5.04 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:24:32 <evoorhees>	but for those who want to own part of this, it's a good opportunity
Feb 04 23:24:50 <evoorhees>	and perhaps it'll keep the stock from getting bubbly
Feb 04 23:25:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.715 = 3.575 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:25:30 <dub>	you're doing a Diablo-D3
Feb 04 23:25:45 <evoorhees>	?
Feb 04 23:26:14 <Diablo-D3>	dub is doing a dub
Feb 04 23:26:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.712 = 3.56 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:26:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.71 = 4.26 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:26:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.71 = 2.84 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:26:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.71 = 4.26 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:26:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.0068 = 2.72 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:26:36 <Diablo-D3>	dub: and Im cleaning up that mess, btw
Feb 04 23:27:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0065 = 13 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:28:02 <dub>	Diablo-D3: yeah but you pioneered the 'randomly halving in value' bitcoin stock feild
Feb 04 23:28:20 <evoorhees>	don't confuse a halving of value with a halving of price
Feb 04 23:28:32 <evoorhees>	the value of SD didn't change when I posted these shares
Feb 04 23:28:33 <evoorhees>	the price changed
Feb 04 23:28:43 <evoorhees>	someone who knows the value should act accordingly
Feb 04 23:28:44 <Diablo-D3>	dub: not at all
Feb 04 23:28:59 <Diablo-D3>	dub: captain nefario pioneered that
Feb 04 23:29:08 <Diablo-D3>	I pioneered making money off his scam
Feb 04 23:29:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0064 = 0.064 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:29:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3990 @ 0.0059 = 23.541 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0044 = 13.2 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:29:34 <Namworld>	evoorhees had fun with the first IPO, but evoorhees requires MOAR hookers
Feb 04 23:29:47 <Namworld>	and fast
Feb 04 23:29:53 <evoorhees>	hehehe
Feb 04 23:29:58 <dub>	or he knows the feds/devs are coming to get him and is cashing out?
Feb 04 23:30:07 <evoorhees>	except that I haven't spent a dime of any of it
Feb 04 23:30:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.7 = 3.5 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:30:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.7 = 4.2 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:31:42 <pizzaman1337>	evoorhees: so why cash out?
Feb 04 23:32:08 <evoorhees>	diversification
Feb 04 23:32:28 <evoorhees>	it's smart for me to bring some of the future earnings into the present
Feb 04 23:32:39 <evoorhees>	it would be stupid of me to bring all of them into the present ;)
Feb 04 23:33:03 <dub>	surely you can appreciate that this is at teh expense of everyone !you
Feb 04 23:33:20 <evoorhees>	how?
Feb 04 23:33:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.69 = 3.45 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:33:43 <evoorhees>	If I've done something at the expense of someone else, please tell me
Feb 04 23:34:25 <pigeons>	it might kinda set that you are willing to sell at say 7% monthly dividends instead of what has been looking like the price was 4%
Feb 04 23:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11000 @ 0.0044 = 48.4 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:35:06 <error4733>	nooooo way
Feb 04 23:35:15 <error4733>	it's 5:30am
Feb 04 23:35:18 <pigeons>	and even if they all sell at 44 or 7% or whatever it is, people may not be willing to pay more than that, they wont pay up to 4% again
Feb 04 23:35:23 <pigeons>	because more shares are coming
Feb 04 23:35:34 <error4733>	i have to wake up my friend to buy some S.dice
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Feb 04 23:35:46 <Bowjob>	Mhm
Feb 04 23:35:51 <pigeons>	error4733: you're ruining our point
Feb 04 23:36:04 <pizzaman1337>	or he's proving evoorhees
Feb 04 23:36:25 <evoorhees>	pigeons - the shares don't dilute the dividends.
Feb 04 23:36:45 <evoorhees>	if 1 share was properly priced at 0.007 yesterday, then 1 shares is still properly priced at 0.007
Feb 04 23:36:53 <evoorhees>	or stated differently...
Feb 04 23:37:02 <pigeons>	yes, but if earnings stay the same, then the price for s.dice has gone down from 4% to whatever it is say 7%
Feb 04 23:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5001 @ 0.00069839 = 3.4926 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:37:11 <evoorhees>	if the earnings of the company justified shares at 0.007 yesterday, then nothing has changed today
Feb 04 23:37:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:37:24 <pigeons>	supply has changed for one
Feb 04 23:37:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.6031 = 11.4589 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:37:51 <pizzaman1337>	it's interesting to see havelock adjust to the market price
Feb 04 23:37:58 <evoorhees>	yeah, watching
Feb 04 23:38:06 <evoorhees>	are there arb bots between the markets?
Feb 04 23:38:10 <dub>	not realy, the first person able to is going to equalise it
Feb 04 23:38:17 <kakobrekla>	pizzaman1337 accually its kinda slow
Feb 04 23:38:20 <Bowjob>	Damn, I can cash out right now
Feb 04 23:38:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6031 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:38:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 63 @ 0.603 = 37.989 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:38:29 <pizzaman1337>	I think to transfer from havelock you have to pay 10 BTC or something
Feb 04 23:38:32 <Bowjob>	james.. I need to do a private offer if you are here
Feb 04 23:39:02 <evoorhees>	but I mean... someone could write a bot that plugged into 3 exchanges. Buy shares on one when price is low, sell on other when price is high
Feb 04 23:39:05 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: yeah, well it's so low volume.
Feb 04 23:39:11 <evoorhees>	you aren't moving shares, just ownership of shares on different markets
Feb 04 23:39:13 <dub>	evoorhees: your point is only valid until people are trading your stocks
Feb 04 23:39:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.603 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:39:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.601 = 6.01 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:39:54 <Bowjob>	Look at havelock taking a nosedive
Feb 04 23:40:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [+]
Feb 04 23:40:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.006 = 6 BTC [+]
Feb 04 23:40:15 <pigeons>	havelock pays 95% if i remember correctly
Feb 04 23:40:29 <Bowjob>	so why sell 5%??
Feb 04 23:40:33 <pizzaman1337>	"Units of the fund ARE convertible to shares on MPEX at 1 unit = 100 shares PUSHED to your MPEX account for a fixed fee of 10 BTC per transfer (fee subject to change). Contact us by email to initiate a transfer."
Feb 04 23:40:40 <pizzaman1337>	so, you can't automate arb
Feb 04 23:41:02 <pizzaman1337>	and it looks like we couldn't move MPEx shares to it and sell right now
Feb 04 23:41:37 <evoorhees>	Bowjob - I have one or two or three private people who own stakes. This 5% isn't necessarily from my share.
Feb 04 23:41:50 <Bowjob>	Wouldnt't it hurt the dice in the long run since you have to pay dividends?
Feb 04 23:42:06 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 04 23:42:13 <Bowjob>	so you mean one of the investors is cashing out
Feb 04 23:42:16 <evoorhees>	I pay dividends anyway, to 100% of shares owned by people
Feb 04 23:42:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.5917854 = 3.5507 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:42:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5917854 = 5.3261 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:42:31 <evoorhees>	some of those shares are on MPEX, the rest are not really shares but privately held stakes by individuals
Feb 04 23:42:32 <Bowjob>	James, damn. hes offline
Feb 04 23:42:50 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, so actually he just doubled the dividend value, but it stinks for people that bought in recently...
Feb 04 23:42:50 <evoorhees>	but in any case, dividends go out to them so I don't care if it pays here on mpex or out to a private person
Feb 04 23:43:00 <dub>	I'll be interested to hear what MP has to say
Feb 04 23:43:15 <kakobrekla>	does it breach the contract?
Feb 04 23:43:20 <kakobrekla>	not that i can tell.
Feb 04 23:43:22 <evoorhees>	no I asked him
Feb 04 23:43:23 <Bowjob>	I could help crash the havelock market but.. last time i panic sold, something went wrong
Feb 04 23:43:26 <dub>	for all the 'biggest thing in bitcoin' talk it hardly inspires confidence
Feb 04 23:43:34 <evoorhees>	oh please
Feb 04 23:44:16 <kakobrekla>	lets make a bitbet all traches are sold by april 1st or something? :)
Feb 04 23:44:44 <Bowjob>	actually i think we should buy dice shares when everyone is panicking
Feb 04 23:44:49 <Bowjob>	thats just me
Feb 04 23:44:58 <evoorhees>	If the legitimate price of S.DICE is 0.007, the fact that a bunch are available for .0044 should not matter one bit. If you bought at .007 and don't believe that to be the legitimate value, then I can see why you'd be insecure about the new shares priced lower
Feb 04 23:45:00 <Bowjob>	since the price is so low
Feb 04 23:45:17 <Bowjob>	What are the trench values?
Feb 04 23:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0044 = 13.2 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:45:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069997 = 3.0246 BTC [+]
Feb 04 23:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27969 @ 0.0007 = 19.5783 BTC [+]
Feb 04 23:45:25 <Bowjob>	0.44 1m, next is??
Feb 04 23:45:31 <evoorhees>	now sure yet bowjob
Feb 04 23:45:48 <dub>	evoorhees: yeah but next time .007 is the price you might dump again
Feb 04 23:45:48 <evoorhees>	I'm kinda getting yelled at for pricing low, so not sure what to do
Feb 04 23:46:06 <evoorhees>	why is that bad??
Feb 04 23:46:25 <dub>	because not everyone plans to hold it forever?
Feb 04 23:46:36 <kakobrekla>	give us a few more min to top up and then CANCEL|666
Feb 04 23:46:42 <Bowjob>	I was under the impression that if you were to sell the shares it wouldn't be so cheap.. 0.69 is understandable
Feb 04 23:47:10 <Namworld>	Because it undermines people who bought just now... and like dub said, not everyone plans to hold on to it maybe
Feb 04 23:47:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [+]
Feb 04 23:47:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1010 @ 0.0059 = 5.959 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:47:22 <evoorhees>	well look, I don't want to anger current holders of shares, so if I get the feeling that people feel I shouldn't release any so low, then I'll reconsider
Feb 04 23:47:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069871 = 3.0191 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:47:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 33 @ 0.5917854 = 19.5289 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:47:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7073 @ 0.00069839 = 4.9397 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:47:35 <Bowjob>	0.44 just alienates the holders... now I could have crashed the havelock shares
Feb 04 23:47:41 <evoorhees>	but honestly, if you know the price of 0.007 to be legitimate, then you should be happy to have the ability to buy way under that
Feb 04 23:47:41 <Namworld>	Next time, match current market price and let shares sell slowly
Feb 04 23:47:45 <Bowjob>	but. I'm against panic buying
Feb 04 23:47:55 <Namworld>	You'll just get more for your shares
Feb 04 23:48:09 <evoorhees>	maybe you're right namworld
Feb 04 23:48:12 <dub>	but he needed cash now derp
Feb 04 23:48:13 <Bowjob>	erik, i believe 0.007 is a good value for the dice, i cant buy yet since james is offline
Feb 04 23:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1016 @ 0.0044 = 4.4704 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:49:20 <Bowjob>	no doubt in a month, dice will be back on track.. but it hurts the recent buyers
Feb 04 23:49:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.57 = 5.7 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:49:51 <evoorhees>	hehehe I list the shares at a "high" price during the IPO and people got angry and said that was foolish. Shares stayed on the market a long time before selling out. So this time I wanted to try something differnet and price clearly below market, and again people get mad :)
Feb 04 23:49:53 <Namworld>	I think 0.007 is good too
Feb 04 23:50:25 <Namworld>	Just put at current market price... people like stuff priced at the price they currently expect
Feb 04 23:50:34 <dub>	why would I buy more of it when its price can go to zero at the issuers whim without any notice
Feb 04 23:50:38 <evoorhees>	I hear you
Feb 04 23:50:56 <evoorhees>	dub... you need more confidence in the things you own
Feb 04 23:50:58 <Namworld>	Too low and it feels shady to them, too high and they're angry that it doesn't reflect current expected value and they want cheaper.
Feb 04 23:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0044 = 22 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:51:00 <evoorhees>	again you're confusing price and value
Feb 04 23:51:18 <dub>	evoorhees: no I don't all I need in confidence in the greater fool
Feb 04 23:51:21 <Bowjob>	[20:50] <evoorhees> hehehe I list the shares at a "high" price during the IPO and people got angry and said that was foolish. Shares stayed on the market a long time before selling out. So this time I wanted to try something differnet and price clearly below market, and again people get mad :)
Feb 04 23:51:27 <evoorhees>	that's a terrible way to invest, dub
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Feb 04 23:51:46 <Bowjob>	Now the problem with what you said is that those people who got pissed were would be investors
Feb 04 23:51:51 <evoorhees>	I don't want people owning S.DICE just cause they think there's a greater fool
Feb 04 23:51:54 <evoorhees>	this isnt' the stock for that
Feb 04 23:52:03 <dub>	lol
Feb 04 23:52:12 <Bowjob>	this time the investors were the pissed one
Feb 04 23:52:13 <evoorhees>	I don't want fools buying this
Feb 04 23:52:22 <dub>	then perhaps you shouldnt have listed it on a 'public' trading platform?
Feb 04 23:52:33 <leotreasure_>	what did i miss re S.DICE?
Feb 04 23:52:55 <evoorhees>	dub are you aware of a market in which no fools are present?
Feb 04 23:53:11 <evoorhees>	leotreasure: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.720
Feb 04 23:53:13 <Bowjob>	Now what we need is more whales to play on dice
Feb 04 23:53:20 <Bowjob>	to calm the investors down
Feb 04 23:53:21 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 04 23:53:33 <dub>	evoorhees: dude my biggest concern now is that you don't appear to get why this could be a bad thing
Feb 04 23:53:33 <leotreasure_>	thanks evoorhees
Feb 04 23:53:38 <evoorhees>	hehe yeah but then they'll freak when the site loses 10k btc in an afternoon
Feb 04 23:53:42 <evoorhees>	the whales make me nervous
Feb 04 23:54:09 <evoorhees>	dub - I understand your argument, that current holders who wanted to "cash out" now have to either wait or sell below their expectations
Feb 04 23:54:12 <evoorhees>	I gotcha
Feb 04 23:54:15 <Bowjob>	last time I freaked out i lost a bunch of btc, so i'll trust your judgement on this one and consider this a deal
Feb 04 23:54:18 <maximian>	evoorhees: part of the problem with this is that I've reinvested some of the dividends back into s.dice at the higher price… offering this next tranche at such a low price sucks
Feb 04 23:54:31 <Bowjob>	just next block please dont undermine us too much >:/
Feb 04 23:54:46 <maximian>	just sell the next tranche at market price.
Feb 04 23:54:52 <kakobrekla>	you people are fuckin retarded. buy with all you got if you were buying at 7.
Feb 04 23:54:52 <Namworld>	We've been undercut!
Feb 04 23:54:56 <evoorhees>	bowjob - I think that's fair
Feb 04 23:54:58 <dub>	and tell people you are going to do it
Feb 04 23:55:11 <Bowjob>	Now hopefully topace goes online tomorrow and the shares havent sold out yet. I plan on investing more shares
Feb 04 23:55:12 <maximian>	buying demand would have picked up
Feb 04 23:55:24 <evoorhees>	and yeah I kinda agree with kakobrekla - if you thought .007 was a good time to buy, then you should be thrilled now
Feb 04 23:55:37 <Bowjob>	evoorhees im thrilled but i cant buy without topace lol
Feb 04 23:55:42 <evoorhees>	hehe
Feb 04 23:55:46 <Bowjob>	im hoping it doesnt sell out tomorrow
Feb 04 23:55:47 <Bowjob>	:3
Feb 04 23:56:09 <evoorhees>	is topace your agent or something?
Feb 04 23:56:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0044 = 44 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:56:12 <Namworld>	You want a broker Bowjob?
Feb 04 23:56:19 <Bowjob>	topace is the owner of havelock
Feb 04 23:56:20 <Bowjob>	^
Feb 04 23:56:22 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 04 23:56:23 <evoorhees>	ah
Feb 04 23:56:28 <Namworld>	I can do that for you if mircea is around
Feb 04 23:56:40 <Namworld>	to process a deposit immediatly
Feb 04 23:56:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4074 @ 0.0044 = 17.9256 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:56:52 <pigeons>	yeah i will buy and push to your broker when available guys
Feb 04 23:56:57 <Bowjob>	thanks for the offer but i'll just wait
Feb 04 23:57:03 <dub>	what if you bought at ipo and want out now because you're not sure how its going to work out with eric in gitmo for gamblin' crimes?
Feb 04 23:57:17 <maximian>	evoorhees: I somewhat understand your reasoning, but this move looks desperate
Feb 04 23:57:27 <Namworld>	I'll be making passthrough on BTCT.co
Feb 04 23:57:32 <evoorhees>	also guys - part of this is me learning and experimenting with this stuff. so your feedback is helpful and I'm listening (especially to the critics)
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Feb 04 23:58:08 <JohnGalt>	is it licensed in ireland?
Feb 04 23:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00069839 = 7.5775 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:58:15 <pigeons>	look at how mircea prices new s.mpoe shares
Feb 04 23:58:21 <evoorhees>	SD isn't a company johngalt
Feb 04 23:58:25 <evoorhees>	it's a website
Feb 04 23:58:52 <evoorhees>	though I am looking at licensing possibilities
Feb 04 23:58:56 <Namworld>	almost underground to top it, so to speak
Feb 04 23:59:16 <pizzaman1337>	evoorhees: next time you can just give me a few million shares and I'll take care of them... ;)
Feb 04 23:59:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 91 @ 0.0097 = 0.8827 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:59:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.0097 = 0.0291 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:59:21 <Namworld>	It's just not really underground like onions
Feb 04 23:59:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.0097 = 0.0388 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:59:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 700 @ 0.0097 = 6.79 BTC [-]
Feb 04 23:59:44 <evoorhees>	pizzaman you're always welcome to make an offer
Feb 05 00:00:11 <JohnGalt>	try to get one somewhere :p malta/gibraltar are the most gambling companies in the EU
Feb 05 00:00:22 <Namworld>	Hey, don't sell my bonds... market volatility can be seen ahead...
Feb 05 00:00:32 <Namworld>	That's when I can make a killing =/
Feb 05 00:01:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00069839 = 5.0982 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:02:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.57 = 2.85 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:03:05 <evoorhees>	so I've heard from people who thought it was a bad move... is anyone -happy- that I released shares at this price?
Feb 05 00:03:13 <evoorhees>	or just misery all around?
Feb 05 00:03:29 <kakobrekla>	id rather not say.
Feb 05 00:03:30 <error4733>	malta host 25 of 28 biggest gambling Co
Feb 05 00:03:36 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 05 00:03:41 <dub>	evoorhees: for next time, at least notify people of when its happening
Feb 05 00:04:04 <maximian>	ugh… 40% down
Feb 05 00:04:12 <maximian>	for my s.dice holdings
Feb 05 00:04:19 <Namworld>	We're happy for the low price, but feel it's way undercut
Feb 05 00:04:25 <leotreasure_>	i'm happy
Feb 05 00:04:29 <Namworld>	I'm sure it will pop right back up
Feb 05 00:04:49 <Namworld>	I'm very happy to have had shares to buy
Feb 05 00:05:04 <maximian>	not all of us had spare BTC to buy
Feb 05 00:05:06 <Diablo-D3>	hey you
Feb 05 00:05:16 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: are you going to loan one of your new avalons to btc-mining?
Feb 05 00:05:16 <Namworld>	but 871`618 shares left already. It will pop right back. Sell @ market price.
Feb 05 00:05:22 <evoorhees>	dub - I thought about that, but how does it help, exactly? Because the moment the news is announced, it's basically the same as just placing the shares. Instantly all buy orders above the price are gone, and sellers "crash" the price to the new expectation. Is that a better situation? Seems to me it doesn't matter
Feb 05 00:05:25 <error4733>	 if you look for long terme, it's a good news for me
Feb 05 00:05:26 <Namworld>	I already answered: what avalons?
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Feb 05 00:05:46 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I thought you said you had ordered some?
Feb 05 00:05:53 <Namworld>	Where does it says I have/ordered avalons? You're not the first one to ask.
Feb 05 00:06:00 <Namworld>	But I haven't
Feb 05 00:06:06 <Diablo-D3>	uh, someone on the DMC thread said you did
Feb 05 00:06:18 <Namworld>	Can you link that?
Feb 05 00:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3240 @ 0.0044 = 14.256 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:06:29 <pigeons>	amazingrando's avalons are namworld's
Feb 05 00:06:47 <Namworld>	I think someone asked in here then said he must have confused me with another issuer
Feb 05 00:06:53 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: oh wait, bitbond has them
Feb 05 00:06:59 <Namworld>	oh >.>
Feb 05 00:07:07 <Diablo-D3>	I think somebody got confused and passed on incorrect information
Feb 05 00:07:29 <Namworld>	I'd need to win in court or small claims first.
Feb 05 00:07:34 <Namworld>	To get anything
Feb 05 00:08:11 <Diablo-D3>	actually, I think I may have read the post wrong
Feb 05 00:08:12 <Diablo-D3>	who knows
Feb 05 00:08:26 <dub>	evoorhees: say I bought all of it right now, its hardly fair to anyone thats asleep
Feb 05 00:08:27 <aiball>	I think evoorhees just priced in the 4 more dumps that are coming that's all
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Feb 05 00:08:31 <Namworld>	Anyone that can vote on BTCT.co
Feb 05 00:08:38 <Namworld>	I issued 3 passthrough
Feb 05 00:08:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0054 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:08:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 148 @ 0.005 = 0.74 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:08:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1600 @ 0.0049 = 7.84 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:08:53 <Namworld>	1 for each MPEx stock
Feb 05 00:09:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0048 = 0.0096 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:09:19 <pigeons>	what is your fee Namworld
Feb 05 00:09:32 <Namworld>	5%, seemed like standard
Feb 05 00:09:54 <pigeons>	ok imma issue one at 4%
Feb 05 00:10:01 <evoorhees>	dub - that's why I didn't put all 5m up right now
Feb 05 00:10:03 <dub>	I mean anynone that things dice has a future should buy all of it
Feb 05 00:10:08 <evoorhees>	but yeah that's a good point
Feb 05 00:10:09 <error4733>	 evoorhees : how many time between 2 tranches ?
Feb 05 00:10:10 <Namworld>	I get it you want less %?
Feb 05 00:10:20 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: btw, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141139.0
Feb 05 00:10:27 <Diablo-D3>	so we know hes still alive
Feb 05 00:10:39 <evoorhees>	error4733 - not sure, wanted to see how the market reacted
Feb 05 00:10:46 <Namworld>	I've posted in there
Feb 05 00:10:50 <Namworld>	like 3 times
Feb 05 00:10:57 <Namworld>	He's ignoring me or something.
Feb 05 00:11:11 <Namworld>	He PMed me saying he hasn't seen me on skype like he requested
Feb 05 00:11:15 <Diablo-D3>	maybe he doesnt autosubscribe to his own threads
Feb 05 00:11:28 <Namworld>	I said he has to accept me =/
Feb 05 00:11:48 <Namworld>	Now to wait again... I need to have a chat with him.
Feb 05 00:12:18 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: maybe I should make an offer to him when I get the avalon rigs
Feb 05 00:12:48 <evoorhees>	I saw the avalon unit... so cool
Feb 05 00:13:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.0096 = 0.96 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:13:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 380 @ 0.009 = 3.42 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:13:42 <error4733>	i think the market will wait to the next bash, so result is freezing at 44/50
Feb 05 00:14:13 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: buy the units from me at twice what I paid for them using proceeds from selling 68*3 ghash of gear
Feb 05 00:14:22 <Diablo-D3>	he lowers his power costs dramatically and stays in business
Feb 05 00:14:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 31 @ 0.0048 = 0.1488 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:15:01 <Namworld>	some people want some S.DICE so bad...
Feb 05 00:15:08 <Namworld>	they're selling all the BTC-BOND
Feb 05 00:15:19 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Feb 05 00:15:28 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: though, if he does liquidate all his gpus
Feb 05 00:15:29 <Diablo-D3>	and sell them
Feb 05 00:15:35 <Diablo-D3>	that could be quite a lot of money to hand back
Feb 05 00:15:43 <Namworld>	600 GPU... custom made...
Feb 05 00:15:56 <kakobrekla>	half broken.
Feb 05 00:16:01 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs
Feb 05 00:16:07 <Diablo-D3>	this is why I was going the route I was with DMC
Feb 05 00:16:08 <maximian>	evoorhees: some of us have a lot of money in s.dice. you're doing great work (which is why I invested more in you than in s.dice), but please consider that your dealing with other people's money now and to take it more seriously.
Feb 05 00:16:08 <Namworld>	he sold 100k bonds... 600 GPU... wouldn't get 60k USD
Feb 05 00:16:10 <Diablo-D3>	no custom gear
Feb 05 00:16:13 <Namworld>	60 cents per share
Feb 05 00:16:25 <Namworld>	0.03 BTC per
Feb 05 00:16:31 <Diablo-D3>	custom gear drives up cost and drives up pentalty of failure
Feb 05 00:16:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0071 BTC [+]
Feb 05 00:16:56 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: man, maybe I should sell an avalon rig to you or something =/
Feb 05 00:17:41 <Diablo-D3>	or buy out your entire operation using dmc stock
Feb 05 00:18:24 <Namworld>	eh, idk
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Feb 05 00:18:43 <Namworld>	Seems like I should just get as much back from amazingrando and destroy it at this point.
Feb 05 00:18:53 <Diablo-D3>	yeah probably
Feb 05 00:18:58 <Bowjob>	what we dont need right now is dice losing toa  whale
Feb 05 00:19:01 <Diablo-D3>	but that means DMC still loses a 106 BTC investment
Feb 05 00:19:09 <mod6>	(20:58) < pigeons> look at how mircea prices new s.mpoe shares <<< yeah, when MP releases new blocks (tranches) of shares they're always at the higher end of the recent price.  i.e. when S.MPOE hit .0006, 40`000`000 more went up @ 10`000`000 per block @ .00062, .00064, .00066, .00068
Feb 05 00:19:18 <TradeFortress>	maximian: your shares are not being diluted. shares are not bank deposits
Feb 05 00:19:38 <Namworld>	Hey, I still have 15 BTC
Feb 05 00:19:55 <Namworld>	that's like, 0.00633178 per share
Feb 05 00:19:58 <Namworld>	>.>
Feb 05 00:20:06 <JohnGalt>	your lucky I'm just a fish :p
Feb 05 00:20:10 <evoorhees>	maximian - I take it very seriously, though I understand the antagonism to the low price shares. Again, I know what the site is worth, so when I release shares below market I feel like I'm doing people a favor because they get shares below the proper price.  Like if I owned a car and knew it was worth $20k but offered to sell @ $16k, it'd be a nice thing to do.
Feb 05 00:20:12 <Namworld>	That's really sad.
Feb 05 00:21:19 <Namworld>	and the .10 - .25 already paid per share in dividends, depending on how old they were, approximately
Feb 05 00:21:50 <dub>	what is this #bitcoin-hippy?
Feb 05 00:21:54 <dub>	:)
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Feb 05 00:22:11 <maximian>	evoorhees: but I'm part owner too, and I'm not a nice guy :)
Feb 05 00:22:21 <evoorhees>	I hear ya
Feb 05 00:22:29 <JohnGalt>	he can sell shares at whatever price he wants, just as you do
Feb 05 00:22:34 <evoorhees>	as in... we both own the car and I'm selling for $16k, you'd be mad
Feb 05 00:22:37 <evoorhees>	I understand
Feb 05 00:22:40 <maximian>	yep
Feb 05 00:22:52 <evoorhees>	I think it's a fair criticism
Feb 05 00:23:01 <maximian>	I know I own just a fraction, but that's how I look at it.
Feb 05 00:23:01 <Bowjob>	this first block is actually a gift. if u look at doog's update dice is up on the red line
Feb 05 00:23:16 <Bowjob>	now, maybe the next block wont be so cheap so buy up
Feb 05 00:23:26 <JohnGalt>	the only complaint you can make is that you didn't profit from this nice offer
Feb 05 00:23:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1159 @ 0.00069872 = 0.8098 BTC [+]
Feb 05 00:23:58 <dub>	he made a -40% profit
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Feb 05 00:25:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14391 @ 0.00069872 = 10.0553 BTC [+]
Feb 05 00:26:11 <Namworld>	For all evoorhees care, he made a near infinite profit on a very simple concept
Feb 05 00:26:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.57 = 2.85 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:26:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.521 = 4.168 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:26:43 <evoorhees>	near infinite? I hope to get near infinite!!
Feb 05 00:26:58 <Namworld>	So to speak
Feb 05 00:26:59 <JohnGalt>	haha :D
Feb 05 00:27:13 <Namworld>	It's nowhere near infinite =P
Feb 05 00:27:41 <Namworld>	But compared to the investment to create it, I think the costs to make it happen where much lower than it's raking in right now.
Feb 05 00:28:01 <evoorhees>	well that's how business works
Feb 05 00:28:16 <evoorhees>	figure something out that doens't cost too much, then sell for higher than the cost
Feb 05 00:28:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.521 = 2.605 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:28:40 <evoorhees>	but, it was deffinitely the chance of a lifetime, for sure
Feb 05 00:29:08 <evoorhees>	my hope is that it proves - beyond a doubt - the power of bitcoin for gambling, and that it wakes that whole industry up
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Feb 05 00:31:36 <Bowjob>	it will be too cruel if says a week from now dice is back up to xx7 and these lemmings cry
Feb 05 00:31:37 <PsychoticBoy>	so dick heads, hows life
Feb 05 00:32:31 <PsychoticBoy>	wait till the Tax comes anbd crashes sdice mwhuhahaha
Feb 05 00:33:06 <PsychoticBoy>	and mpex will be first, illigal business
Feb 05 00:33:17 <Bowjob>	usagi priced s.dice at 0.5/bt
Feb 05 00:33:18 <Bowjob>	btc
Feb 05 00:33:20 <Bowjob>	thats insane
Feb 05 00:33:29 <mod6>	PsychoticBoy: lol
Feb 05 00:33:37 <Bowjob>	0.5btc/share
Feb 05 00:33:45 <Bowjob>	i
Feb 05 00:33:50 <Bowjob>	im interested in his analysis
Feb 05 00:34:01 <PsychoticBoy>	Mark My Words, It will be a Major cry scene, even worse than GLBSE
Feb 05 00:34:32 <Bowjob>	it already is
Feb 05 00:34:56 <PsychoticBoy>	It is on;ly a matter of time till the Tax/feds/Sec etc arrives in Romania to close down Mpex crap
Feb 05 00:35:21 <PsychoticBoy>	On that day I will do my Happy dance
Feb 05 00:35:35 <Namworld>	Bowjob: usagi prices .01 BTC @ .1 BTC @ 0.034 BTC. All that with a japanese vampire as an exponent, somehow.
Feb 05 00:35:46 <PsychoticBoy>	no more east european hookers\
Feb 05 00:35:47 <Namworld>	Or whatever else you want to think of.
Feb 05 00:35:50 <mod6>	(21:34) < PsychoticBoy> It is on;ly a matter of time till the Tax/feds/Sec etc arrives in Romania to close down Mpex crap << 1st rate comedy right here
Feb 05 00:36:00 <PsychoticBoy>	and no more satoshidice, hehehe
Feb 05 00:36:07 <Namworld>	He never gives explanations so might as well be whatever you want.
Feb 05 00:36:19 <PsychoticBoy>	mod6
Feb 05 00:36:22 <mod6>	since when did -assets become so weak?
Feb 05 00:36:33 <mod6>	PsychoticBoy
Feb 05 00:36:40 <Namworld>	I think since forever
Feb 05 00:36:50 <JohnGalt>	romanian hookers are the worst
Feb 05 00:37:06 <PsychoticBoy>	Mark my words, it will not be long till all is done
Feb 05 00:37:31 <error4733>	they are some copy of MPEX spread around
Feb 05 00:37:49 <error4733>	so even if they close MP "office"
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Feb 05 00:38:03 <Namworld>	With what course of action will that be achieved, PsychoticBoy?
Feb 05 00:38:03 <error4733>	not a big deal
Feb 05 00:38:05 <PsychoticBoy>	but only greedy people go with Mpex and his hooker imperium, so I am off to work
Feb 05 00:38:13 <evoorhees>	to work for money
Feb 05 00:38:14 <mod6>	ok bye!!!!
Feb 05 00:38:27 <mod6>	:<
Feb 05 00:38:46 <maximian>	evoorhees: anyway, I still love s.dice. I'm in it for the long run, which is why I reinvest my dividends. Just don't get yourself gitmo'd and I'll be happy!
Feb 05 00:38:56 <evoorhees>	you and me both
Feb 05 00:39:03 <PsychoticBoy>	no work for charity, I dont need money, I was born with too much
Feb 05 00:39:15 <PsychoticBoy>	thanks dad
Feb 05 00:39:33 <evoorhees>	you sound like a solid individual, wishing punishment on others who have harmed nobody
Feb 05 00:39:57 <PsychoticBoy>	no only selfcentred pricks like mp
Feb 05 00:40:06 <PsychoticBoy>	and his illigal imperium
Feb 05 00:40:17 <Namworld>	oh, MP's ego is the size of the moon, everyone knows about it.
Feb 05 00:40:57 <evoorhees>	why do you resent him psychoticboy?
Feb 05 00:41:00 <PsychoticBoy>	till the day comes he can kiss the prison walls, after not paying his tax, Mpex does not pay tax so that will be the downfall
Feb 05 00:41:40 <mod6>	dude. do you really expect a romainian national to pay US tax, while living in fucking romaina?!?!
Feb 05 00:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 55653 @ 0.0044 = 244.8732 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:41:47 <evoorhees>	I nobody paid tax, the world would be a better place. It is not moral to fund mass murder
Feb 05 00:41:50 <error4733>	pay in what ? monoply bills ? for romanian laws, he do nothing
Feb 05 00:41:50 <mod6>	GET A GRIP PsychoticBoy
Feb 05 00:41:51 <evoorhees>	if nobody*
Feb 05 00:42:06 <PsychoticBoy>	<evoorhees> why do you resent him psychoticboy?< < the day he came here in #bitcoin-assets he thinks he is the king, he should have stayed in #bitcoin-otc-eu
Feb 05 00:42:06 <error4733>	all his earning go in some offshore bank
Feb 05 00:42:46 <evoorhees>	oh you resent him cause he joined an IRC channel you don't want him to join?
Feb 05 00:42:47 <PsychoticBoy>	another illigal thing to do as an EU citizen
Feb 05 00:43:04 <PsychoticBoy>	no I just want him to go away
Feb 05 00:43:17 <mod6>	omfg dude. gtfo or rtfm or whatever but stfu plz
Feb 05 00:44:09 <PsychoticBoy>	I still hope to meet him someday on a btc conferrence or such
Feb 05 00:44:27 <Diablo-D3>	and make passionate love to him?
Feb 05 00:44:34 <mod6>	lol
Feb 05 00:44:37 *	mod6 is confused
Feb 05 00:46:12 <PsychoticBoy>	in his ass
Feb 05 00:46:15 <PsychoticBoy>	lolz
Feb 05 00:46:22 <mod6>	heheh
Feb 05 00:46:33 <mod6>	i dunno man, you need to get a hobby.
Feb 05 00:46:38 <mod6>	and not -assets or btc
Feb 05 00:46:56 <error4733>	other than hate
Feb 05 00:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11136 @ 0.0044 = 48.9984 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:47:15 <PsychoticBoy>	ok another hobby like?
Feb 05 00:47:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4009 @ 0.00069886 = 2.8017 BTC [+]
Feb 05 00:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1497 @ 0.00069839 = 1.0455 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:47:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8746 @ 0.00069537 = 6.0817 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:47:26 <error4733>	golf ?
Feb 05 00:47:33 <Diablo-D3>	porn?
Feb 05 00:47:34 <mod6>	PsychoticBoy: i dunno, some people garden, some people knit...
Feb 05 00:47:36 <PsychoticBoy>	I dont have hate, I dislike some ppl but thats it
Feb 05 00:47:50 <error4733>	bookscrapping ?
Feb 05 00:47:57 <Diablo-D3>	porn?
Feb 05 00:48:06 <Bowjob>	i heard of russian roulette hobby
Feb 05 00:48:11 <maximian>	evoorhees: for the record, the initial IPO at 0.0032, 0.0034, etc was well priced. Don't listen to the forum creeps.
Feb 05 00:48:11 <PsychoticBoy>	probably it came somewhat harsh out my mouth (fingers)
Feb 05 00:48:12 <error4733>	stop talking about you diablo
Feb 05 00:48:29 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: ...
Feb 05 00:49:22 <Bowjob>	I like how no one is selling under the 0.xx73 above the ipo
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Feb 05 00:51:46 <PsychoticBoy>	If I need porn, I only have to scroll up ;) Bit I am off, later
Feb 05 00:52:07 <mod6>	Later! :D
Feb 05 00:52:40 <mod6>	I gotta stop idling in here, its painful to read the scollback in here.
Feb 05 00:53:05 <mod6>	I liked it better in -assets-trades
Feb 05 00:54:23 <mod6>	I mean seriously, he priced them at .0044?
Feb 05 00:54:25 <mod6>	wtf
Feb 05 00:55:18 <Bowjob>	it'll be back in a few weeks. maybe a little less that 0.7xx
Feb 05 00:55:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 6 @ 0.93 = 5.58 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:55:33 <mod6>	yeah, he just needs to not do that next time.
Feb 05 00:55:48 <mod6>	THINK OF THE SHAREHOLDERS!
Feb 05 00:56:05 <Bowjob>	well.. our value isnt being diluted its thust the price
Feb 05 00:56:08 <Bowjob>	*just
Feb 05 00:56:15 <mod6>	I'm with you on that.
Feb 05 00:56:22 <Bowjob>	just buy those shares, you'll be glad in a few weeks
Feb 05 00:56:25 <Bowjob>	flip a profit
Feb 05 00:56:33 <mod6>	He didn't need to do that.  He just needed to price them at .00739
Feb 05 00:56:49 <Bowjob>	he already agreed with me to price the next block higher
Feb 05 00:57:12 <Bowjob>	that seems fair. and its lined up with what he wanted.. a deal for new investors
Feb 05 00:57:13 <mod6>	I just feel like people in btc and in -assets have some pretty whimsical thinking.
Feb 05 00:57:19 <Bowjob>	yes we do
Feb 05 00:57:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.926 = 2.778 BTC [-]
Feb 05 00:57:27 <Bowjob>	and i acted like that when dice lost 10k
Feb 05 00:57:30 <Bowjob>	i sold off some shares
Feb 05 00:57:33 <Bowjob>	regretted it lol
Feb 05 00:57:41 <Bowjob>	then got it back2  days later
Feb 05 00:57:42 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 00:57:51 <Bowjob>	trying not to be frivolous this time
Feb 05 00:58:07 <mod6>	yeah, i hear you. its ok to question this stuff though.
Feb 05 00:58:19 <mod6>	there have been VERY MANY scams around these parts.
Feb 05 00:58:45 <Bowjob>	k, i buy his explanation wanted to give investors a good deal
Feb 05 00:58:53 <Bowjob>	but.. lets see what the other blocks will be
Feb 05 00:59:04 <Bowjob>	this is just block 1.. 1% of the dice
Feb 05 00:59:16 <mod6>	right.
Feb 05 00:59:24 <Bowjob>	he already got lots of flak for this, so maybe he'll listen for no 2,3,4,5
Feb 05 00:59:32 <mod6>	but its just that it was whimsical, if it wasn't he'd have priced them appropriately.
Feb 05 00:59:49 *	mod6 beats dead horses
Feb 05 00:59:52 <mod6>	often
Feb 05 01:00:18 <Bowjob>	it wasnt, but its a good deal though. i'll drop in for some shares
Feb 05 01:00:59 <mod6>	the part that i find troubling is that were over a huge number of shares sold above .007
Feb 05 01:01:22 <mod6>	not just like 10,000 - more like 500k - 1mn
Feb 05 01:01:35 <Bowjob>	<Bowjob> just next block please dont undermine us too much >:/
Feb 05 01:01:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.0044 = 1.54 BTC [-]
Feb 05 01:01:46 <mod6>	haha, i saw that.
Feb 05 01:01:54 <Bowjob>	[20:55] <evoorhees> bowjob - I think that's fair
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Feb 05 01:01:59 <mod6>	like I said. some more thought needs to go into some of this stuff.
Feb 05 01:02:23 <Bowjob>	So most likely, he just wants to give people a second chance to invest in dice
Feb 05 01:02:35 <Bowjob>	and most likely blocks 2-5 wont be so cheap
Feb 05 01:03:00 <Bowjob>	now if he sells for cheaper for blocks 2-5 then something *might be up
Feb 05 01:03:08 <mod6>	But if he put up a wall @ say .007 there would be smaller orders that would sell for lower as it would take longer (probably) to sell the tranche of 1`000`000
Feb 05 01:03:11 <mod6>	right?
Feb 05 01:03:32 <mod6>	so people get their low bids filled that way maybe.
Feb 05 01:03:32 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 05 01:03:37 <mod6>	or they can bid up for them
Feb 05 01:03:52 <mod6>	*shrug*
Feb 05 01:03:53 <mod6>	whatever
Feb 05 01:04:02 <Bowjob>	that 5% will be gone in maybe 5-10 days
Feb 05 01:04:36 <mod6>	yeah, they do sell quick. thats for sure.
Feb 05 01:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3011 @ 0.00069993 = 2.1075 BTC [+]
Feb 05 01:05:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.0007 = 0.6923 BTC [+]
Feb 05 01:06:40 <mod6>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 05 01:06:41 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069 / 0.00069522 / 0.0007 (1494596 shares, 1,039.09 BTC), 7D: 0.00063335 / 0.00067255 / 0.0007 (14552639 shares, 9,787.51 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066047 / 0.0007 (59858085 shares, 39,534.52 BTC)
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Feb 05 01:11:40 <mod6>	*sigh*
Feb 05 01:13:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.0007 = 7.84 BTC [+]
Feb 05 01:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.0007 = 5.845 BTC [+]
Feb 05 01:17:40 <Namworld>	We found a little easter egg on bitvps.com website
Feb 05 01:18:03 <Namworld>	apparently RG had a theme song
Feb 05 01:19:23 <mod6>	was it a wham! song?
Feb 05 01:20:12 <mod6>	oh, wait he really likes Culture Club iirc
Feb 05 01:20:36 <mod6>	he was always singin that karma chameleon song
Feb 05 01:20:37 <mod6>	lol
Feb 05 01:22:40 *	mod6 looks
Feb 05 01:23:27 <Namworld>	eh, not even close
Feb 05 01:24:24 <Bowjob>	Mhm
Feb 05 01:24:25 <Bowjob>	"All future share issuance will be made only a) subject to approval by MPEx and b) at a price no less than the higher of the 1 day average price and the 30 day average price then current on MPEx ;
Feb 05 01:24:36 <Bowjob>	I think we might have a breach of contract actually
Feb 05 01:24:44 <mod6>	awe shit yeah, Bowjob
Feb 05 01:24:48 <mod6>	http://pastebin.com/XL2r8M4N
Feb 05 01:24:53 <mod6>	Namworld: ^^^
Feb 05 01:24:54 <mod6>	lol
Feb 05 01:25:49 <Bowjob>	erik is offline
Feb 05 01:25:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00420001 = 4.2 BTC [-]
Feb 05 01:25:55 <error4733>	This is not a share inssuance
Feb 05 01:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0042 = 4.2 BTC [-]
Feb 05 01:25:58 <Namworld>	eh, it's a montage song, mod6, not karma
Feb 05 01:26:27 <Bowjob>	So this is indeed a breach of contract. O_O
Feb 05 01:26:33 <error4733>	no
Feb 05 01:26:59 <Namworld>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issued_shares
Feb 05 01:27:08 <Namworld>	"ssued shares is a term of law and finance for the quantity of shares of a corporation, which have been allocated (allotted) and are subsequently held by shareholders."
Feb 05 01:27:12 <Namworld>	It is issuance
Feb 05 01:27:22 <Namworld>	Issued shares are shares held by the public
Feb 05 01:27:50 <Namworld>	Well actually, is evoorhees part of the public?
Feb 05 01:28:08 <Bowjob>	Wait I'm not following
Feb 05 01:28:18 <Namworld>	I guess so. Shares are issued to him.
Feb 05 01:28:37 <error4733>	i didnt understand like this, for me a share issuance it's a new sum of share add to the pool
Feb 05 01:28:39 <mod6>	Hmm. See rg tried to dump all of his S.BVPS shares and MP told him that he couldn't
Feb 05 01:28:46 <mod6>	that he was "fully issued"
Feb 05 01:28:57 <mod6>	but ev said that mp said it was ok, so I dunno...
Feb 05 01:29:00 <maximian>	shit, and MP takes this stuff seriously
Feb 05 01:29:02 <error4733>	like 100M to total 200M shares
Feb 05 01:29:08 <mod6>	we'll have to wait for MP to weigh in on it i guess.
Feb 05 01:29:13 <mod6>	shouldn't be long lol
Feb 05 01:29:20 <maximian>	evoorhees needs to yank those shares right away if it's a contract breah
Feb 05 01:29:22 <maximian>	breach
Feb 05 01:29:38 <Namworld>	MP allowed rg to go on for months without giving financial statements as promised by contract
Feb 05 01:29:44 <error4733>	he asks MP before
Feb 05 01:29:54 <mod6>	yeah, i should have neg rated him on that straight away
Feb 05 01:29:58 <Namworld>	He just booted BitVPS because rg transfered BitVPS along with all his share
Feb 05 01:30:05 <Namworld>	+ gave away his private gpg key
Feb 05 01:30:15 <mod6>	right, im talking about back in like july or something
Feb 05 01:30:24 <mod6>	this is waaaaaay before you came along
Feb 05 01:31:43 <Namworld>	By the way, BitVPS reissuance appeared on BTCT.co
Feb 05 01:31:49 <Namworld>	If someone wants to vote.
Feb 05 01:32:00 <mod6>	i think maybe they were just his shares to sell or whatever.  So i think he cut a deal with the guy from the bvps passthrough.
Feb 05 01:32:05 <JohnGalt>	he can sell his shares at whatever price he wants, just like you do. There are no new shares issued
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Feb 05 01:32:16 <error4733>	thanks
Feb 05 01:32:27 <mod6>	JohnGalt: yeah, as long as they didn't create any new ones, he can sell just like anyone else.
Feb 05 01:32:48 <mod6>	I was pointing out earlier that he didn't exactly follow this: b) at a price no less than the higher of the 1 day average price and the 30 day average price then current on MPEx ;
Feb 05 01:32:56 <mod6>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 05 01:32:57 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00547881 / 0.007395 (280128 shares, 1,534.77 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00676631 / 0.007395 (947443 shares, 6,410.70 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00516229 / 0.0075 (6127835 shares, 31,633.67 BTC)
Feb 05 01:33:29 <Namworld>	yeah, after a bit it occured to me the rest are not unissued, they're issued to evoorhees privately
Feb 05 01:33:29 <maximian>	my understanding is that evoorhees offered a new tranche
Feb 05 01:33:54 <mod6>	Heh... well how is that supposed to work with the old contract?!
Feb 05 01:34:04 <maximian>	it looks like he messed up
Feb 05 01:34:29 <mod6>	I don't think I understand what transpired here...
Feb 05 01:34:36 <mod6>	im gonna go read his post again
Feb 05 01:34:46 <error4733>	i made it
Feb 05 01:34:49 <error4733>	twice
Feb 05 01:34:56 <maximian>	"S.DICE will be releasing another 5% stake starting now in five tranches of 1,000,000 shares each. Each tranche will be priced higher than the last. All tranches will be higher than the IPO price but lower than the current market price of around .0071 btc per share. Same rules apply to these shares (100% of net earnings from SD)."
Feb 05 01:35:01 <maximian>	another 5% stake
Feb 05 01:35:12 <error4733>	from the 90%
Feb 05 01:35:15 <maximian>	yes
Feb 05 01:35:17 <mod6>	oh thanks error4733
Feb 05 01:35:26 <mod6>	and maximian
Feb 05 01:35:38 <maximian>	so new IPO tranche
Feb 05 01:35:45 <error4733>	kind of
Feb 05 01:35:45 <JohnGalt>	yes
Feb 05 01:35:48 <Bowjob>	so is there a breach of contract or not?
Feb 05 01:35:54 <JohnGalt>	not really
Feb 05 01:35:56 <error4733>	no for me,
Feb 05 01:36:05 <Namworld>	No for me
Feb 05 01:36:13 <mod6>	S.DICE will be releasing another 5% stake <<< as long as this comes from the original 100`000`000 he should be fine.
Feb 05 01:36:19 <maximian>	personally, I'd let it go
Feb 05 01:36:27 <Bowjob>	Oh, i see.
Feb 05 01:36:31 <Namworld>	As long as stay 1/100,000,000th of profits per share
Feb 05 01:36:34 <Bowjob>	I'll buy it up
Feb 05 01:36:34 <mod6>	im not letting shit go
Feb 05 01:36:35 <mod6>	lol
Feb 05 01:36:42 <Bowjob>	lol let it go it was a good deal anyway
Feb 05 01:36:51 <mod6>	Namworld: yeah
Feb 05 01:37:00 <maximian>	(b)Based on their knowledge of the company and its assets, as well as on evaluation of market demand, current profitability and projected evolution, the representatives of SatoshiDice have elected to offer in this IPO a total of 10`000`000 (ten million) shares, as follows : one block of 2`000`000 (two million) shares at a price of 0.0032 BTC each ; one block of 5`000`000 (five million) shares at a price of 0.0034 BTC each ; on
Feb 05 01:37:00 <maximian>	block of 3`000`000 (three million) shares at a price of 0.0037 BTC each. These blocks will be offered as follows : the first will go up for sale on August the 24th, midnight GMT ; the second on August the 25th, midnight GMT ; the last on August the 26th, midnight GMT.
Feb 05 01:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2021 @ 0.0044 = 8.8924 BTC [+]
Feb 05 01:37:04 <error4733>	that it, 15% of div instead of 10% for MPEX
Feb 05 01:37:07 <maximian>	(c)The representatives of SatoshiDice warrant that no further shares will be offered by them for a period of 30 days from the date these offered shares are sold. The representatives of SatoshiDice further warrant that they will never sell more than half the total shares.
Feb 05 01:37:47 <maximian>	actually, I think there's no breach
Feb 05 01:37:58 <error4733>	so 35more % in the futur can be release
Feb 05 01:38:47 <maximian>	the restriction was on offering more than the 100,000,000 sharies, i.e. a dilution
Feb 05 01:38:54 <maximian>	phew
Feb 05 01:39:11 <Bowjob>	I thought stock dilution was a stock no no brainer
Feb 05 01:39:15 <Bowjob>	u mean people do it in real life?
Feb 05 01:39:16 <mod6>	it is
Feb 05 01:39:22 <maximian>	I was only concerned because MP seems to take contacts seriously! Like he'd cut off his own legs if it was in the contract.
Feb 05 01:39:47 <Bowjob>	Well, its in our best interest for evoorhees not to breach the contract actually
Feb 05 01:39:53 <maximian>	for sure
Feb 05 01:40:16 <error4733>	folks, he talk about this with MP before
Feb 05 01:40:19 <Bowjob>	(a)The representatives of SatoshiDice have elected to divide SatoshiDice into 100`000`000 (one hundred million) equal non-voting shares with a total equity value of 10`000 BTC (0.0001 BTC each). In the event of liquidation or breach of this Agreement they solemnly promise and warrant to repay all investors holding shares at this minimum value.
Feb 05 01:40:30 <Bowjob>	so if voorhees fucks up, we get paid 0.0001 btc each
Feb 05 01:40:43 <Bowjob>	isnt that idk.. lol
Feb 05 01:41:01 <Bowjob>	even if its a breach of contract we might want to let it go lol
Feb 05 01:41:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4879 @ 0.0044 = 21.4676 BTC [+]
Feb 05 01:41:38 <maximian>	error4733: he did?
Feb 05 01:41:53 <mod6>	ev said that he did
Feb 05 01:42:00 <maximian>	ok… that's good.
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Feb 05 01:42:54 <Bowjob>	looks like deadterra got screwed
Feb 05 01:43:11 <Bowjob>	" I think this was a bit sudden though and I would have preferred it with warning, as I woke up by tons of buy orders which are now over priced and I bought tons of shares yesterday so I now don't have any BTC to send to mpex... //DeaDTerra"
Feb 05 01:43:53 <mod6>	(20:43) < dub> I'll be interested to hear what MP has to say
Feb 05 01:43:54 <mod6>	(20:43) < kakobrekla> does it breach the contract?
Feb 05 01:43:54 <mod6>	(20:43) < kakobrekla> not that i can tell.
Feb 05 01:43:54 <mod6>	(20:43) < evoorhees> no I asked him
Feb 05 01:43:55 <error4733>	[05:43] <dub> I'll be interested to hear what MP has to say
Feb 05 01:43:56 <error4733>	[05:43] <kakobrekla> does it breach the contract?
Feb 05 01:43:56 <error4733>	[05:43] <kakobrekla> not that i can tell.
Feb 05 01:43:56 <error4733>	[05:43] <evoorhees> no I asked him
Feb 05 01:44:06 <mod6>	inb4 error4733
Feb 05 01:44:17 <mod6>	;)
Feb 05 01:44:47 <Bowjob>	well like i said. if erik breached the contract all dice owners get 0.0001 btc each
Feb 05 01:44:48 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 01:45:08 <Bowjob>	but we need to update the contract
Feb 05 01:45:11 <Bowjob>	its no longer 10%
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Feb 05 01:47:49 <error4733>	can't go wrong anyway :  How do I know you're respectable ? Have you received any awards ?
Feb 05 01:47:49 <error4733>	    Yes, in point of fact we have. We are the proud recipients of both the respected Slightly Smoky Dragon trophy as well as the coveted Double Cherry Truck insignia. Proof below :
Feb 05 01:48:28 <mod6>	:)
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Feb 05 01:51:42 <Bowjob>	now if james can wake up, id like to buy some dice
Feb 05 01:52:00 <mod6>	whos James?
Feb 05 01:52:31 <mod6>	is that the dude who runs HAVELOCK?
Feb 05 01:52:32 <Namworld>	The havelock guy?
Feb 05 01:52:38 <mod6>	ahh ok
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Feb 05 01:53:30 <Bowjob>	k guys, I'll admit I still don't understand it
Feb 05 01:53:32 <Bowjob>	read my post
Feb 05 01:53:33 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.760
Feb 05 01:53:34 <maximian>	The "buy more" thing is a bit bogus, at least for me, because I'm already at my risk maximum with s.dice
Feb 05 01:53:34 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 05 01:54:10 <Bowjob>	well we are at risk maximum with bitcoin in the first place
Feb 05 01:54:30 <Bowjob>	think about it, bitcoin, voorhees, mp.. and james for me
Feb 05 01:54:31 <maximian>	that's no consolation
Feb 05 01:54:41 <Bowjob>	if one of those fails, my stuff gets ruined
Feb 05 01:55:03 <Bowjob>	if one of the three get turned into a roadside pizza, my shares get ruined also
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Feb 05 01:56:08 <aiball>	I think if mp or james goes, you're still okay until it reanimates somewhere right?
Feb 05 01:56:36 <aiball>	it being the mpex backup database
Feb 05 01:56:39 <Bowjob>	mp would be fine, i guess. but james cant since he runs havelock. my stuff is on his site
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Feb 05 01:57:57 <Bowjob>	so is the mpex rota still around :3
Feb 05 01:58:04 <mod6>	haha, very funny
Feb 05 01:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 992 @ 0.00069674 = 0.6912 BTC [-]
Feb 05 01:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 583 @ 0.00069537 = 0.4054 BTC [-]
Feb 05 01:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069438 = 3.0004 BTC [-]
Feb 05 01:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3754 @ 0.00069437 = 2.6067 BTC [-]
Feb 05 02:00:17 <Bowjob>	Lets hope for another monster dice month
Feb 05 02:00:25 <Bowjob>	then we'll forget about this
Feb 05 02:00:35 <aiball>	I always do
Feb 05 02:00:35 <PsychoticBoy_>	Hi guys, at work atm. Just want to appologise for my outburst of this morning, also to you MP, I just had a terrible night sleep
Feb 05 02:00:54 <error4733>	not the one who bought at 0.0044 hehe
Feb 05 02:01:37 <error4733>	too late, i send the log for 1BTC bounty
Feb 05 02:02:49 <Bowjob>	bounty?
Feb 05 02:02:57 <maximian>	evoorhees seemed to acknowledge his mistake, so I'm satisfied.
Feb 05 02:02:58 <DeaDTerra>	anyone know when mircea will come online to deal with the deposits?
Feb 05 02:03:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 760 @ 0.0053 = 4.028 BTC [-]
Feb 05 02:03:56 <mod6>	its about 9am in Timisoara, so probably not too long
Feb 05 02:05:38 <aiball>	how on earth do you just know what time it is in Timisoara?
Feb 05 02:05:54 <mod6>	well, its about 8 hours ahead of me lol
Feb 05 02:06:33 <mod6>	oh, and the internet :D
Feb 05 02:07:27 <mod6>	what? just me?
Feb 05 02:08:33 <Namworld>	aiball, no one can view the backup database content
Feb 05 02:08:41 <Namworld>	It's encrypted
Feb 05 02:09:04 <Namworld>	Save your MPEx receipts
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Feb 05 02:13:23 <error4733>	buy buy before the ROTA :troll:
Feb 05 02:13:45 <Bowjob>	Rota is gone lol
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Feb 05 02:14:27 <mod6>	ha, it was sad though. it had such potential.
Feb 05 02:14:45 <Bowjob>	rota shouldnt be for small cases
Feb 05 02:14:53 <Bowjob>	something like this would be gravy for rota
Feb 05 02:15:00 <Bowjob>	oh the greed.. its coursing through my veins
Feb 05 02:15:17 <mod6>	(15:35) <mod6> i was just reviewing the Wences v. MPEx case, I'm glad you set up this court to settle disputes.
Feb 05 02:15:20 <mod6>	(15:35) <mod6> awesomesauce
Feb 05 02:15:23 <mod6>	(15:35) <mircea_popescu> ;)
Feb 05 02:15:28 <mod6>	(23:50) <mircea_popescu> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rota-post-mortem/ sadly.
Feb 05 02:15:31 <mod6>	(23:50) <mircea_popescu> awesomesauce lasted half a week
Feb 05 02:15:43 <mod6>	:/
Feb 05 02:15:56 <Bowjob>	mammon's essence is in my blood right now
Feb 05 02:16:11 <mod6>	the people who are involved didn't rule in such a way that anyone could charge a fee for returning mis-sent BTC
Feb 05 02:16:34 <Bowjob>	mhm it says paid content for me
Feb 05 02:16:42 <Bowjob>	does anyone actually buy credits to read those articles?
Feb 05 02:16:58 <mod6>	yeah, i guess they do
Feb 05 02:17:56 <Bowjob>	how does it work
Feb 05 02:18:02 <Bowjob>	1 dollar 1000 credits
Feb 05 02:18:05 <mod6>	so.. yeah, ROTA would have been fantastic, but no one around here takes this stuff as srs I guess
Feb 05 02:18:08 <Bowjob>	1000 credits = how much
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Feb 05 02:18:13 <Ukyo>	did MP goto sleep ?
Feb 05 02:18:15 <mod6>	or not many, just a handful of us
Feb 05 02:18:18 <mod6>	*handfull
Feb 05 02:18:51 <Bowjob>	itd be fun to see erik vs a bunch of pissed off investors before rota
Feb 05 02:19:05 <Bowjob>	id spectate with gourmet popcorn
Feb 05 02:19:28 <error4733>	+1
Feb 05 02:19:32 <mod6>	haha, you'd be sitting there for a while... i think the wences case took 1 week to rule on
Feb 05 02:19:47 <mod6>	AND IT WAS STILL FUBAR!
Feb 05 02:20:45 <mod6>	*sigh*
Feb 05 02:21:02 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1504647;boardseen#new
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Feb 05 02:21:47 <Bowjob>	this deprived dude raises some valid points. now that dude who posted a quote in investopedia didn't actually explain anything
Feb 05 02:22:04 <Bowjob>	i want a counter on deprived's logic.. a neutral one
Feb 05 02:23:38 <Namworld>	Bowjob: use google as a proxy
Feb 05 02:23:43 <Namworld>	free reading
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Feb 05 02:24:11 <Bowjob>	shh, mp might smite you
Feb 05 02:24:12 <Bowjob>	:P
Feb 05 02:24:21 <Bowjob>	i learned that PR's salary is 28 btc
Feb 05 02:24:36 *	PsychoticBoy_ lives popcorn time
Feb 05 02:24:44 <PsychoticBoy_>	Loves*
Feb 05 02:24:45 <error4733>	i'm confused now...
Feb 05 02:24:54 <Bowjob>	shes lucky to get that job. just posting on forums for 560 dollars a month
Feb 05 02:24:58 <Bowjob>	id do it for 500!
Feb 05 02:26:01 <PsychoticBoy_>	560$ is a lot in eastern europe
Feb 05 02:26:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [+]
Feb 05 02:26:24 <PsychoticBoy_>	I live in the west of europe
Feb 05 02:26:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [+]
Feb 05 02:26:58 <PsychoticBoy_>	Sure is a lot for just posting crap
Feb 05 02:27:19 <Bowjob>	looks like Havelock went back up lol
Feb 05 02:27:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.55 = 1.65 BTC [-]
Feb 05 02:27:30 <PsychoticBoy_>	Enfin back to work
Feb 05 02:27:31 <Bowjob>	or not
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Feb 05 02:28:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.5321 = 12.7704 BTC [-]
Feb 05 02:28:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069985 = 3.0241 BTC [+]
Feb 05 02:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7179 @ 0.00069999 = 5.0252 BTC [+]
Feb 05 02:29:10 <Bowjob>	I bet erik is watching from a distance eating popcorn laughing at this drama
Feb 05 02:29:18 <Bowjob>	then next block is for sale at 0.71
Feb 05 02:29:23 <Bowjob>	then it becomes a good joke
Feb 05 02:29:23 <Bowjob>	lol
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Feb 05 02:30:23 <Namworld>	fine by me
Feb 05 02:31:17 <Bowjob>	fine by me but let me purchase some cheap shares
Feb 05 02:31:27 <Bowjob>	the price may be low, but the value is high
Feb 05 02:32:55 <mod6>	well, this is starting to become a pattern.  this is two months in a row that we're discussing weather or not a whimsical decision by a CEO is going to force the liq
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Feb 05 02:33:28 <Ukyo>	forusm connection refused .fail
Feb 05 02:33:29 <Namworld>	But in this case, I think it's uncalled for.
Feb 05 02:33:30 <mod6>	that's not good. so all you would-be CEO's who want to issue on MPEx, you better read the fucking contract or face liq of your company. :/
Feb 05 02:33:51 <mod6>	Namworld: yeah, maybe. but do you want to leave millions of dollars up to chance?!
Feb 05 02:33:52 <Bowjob>	bitcoin talk down
Feb 05 02:33:57 <Ukyo>	btw, BitFunder has hit over 760BTC 24hr vol. https://bitfunder.com/markets
Feb 05 02:33:57 <Ukyo>	:)
Feb 05 02:34:10 <Ukyo>	I expect it to hit 1k ~ 1.5k
Feb 05 02:35:30 <Namworld>	yeah, but that's all due to Deadterra's S.DICE passthrough =P
Feb 05 02:35:37 <Ukyo>	yup
Feb 05 02:35:50 <Ukyo>	and dern proud of eet!
Feb 05 02:36:02 <Ukyo>	wish it was bvps, but no luck on that apparently. LOL
Feb 05 02:36:15 <Ukyo>	owell, there will be others :)
Feb 05 02:36:38 <Namworld>	Why bvps?
Feb 05 02:36:46 <mod6>	well if rg would have just asked some questions instead of fucking that all up....
Feb 05 02:36:57 <mod6>	then it wouldn't be being delisted
Feb 05 02:37:38 <mod6>	i mean, for real.  don't know what to do? just talk to mircea, he'll set you straight. don't act until you know for sure what you're doing and why.
Feb 05 02:40:58 <Ukyo>	Namworld: I ment, I wish it was bvps on BF making all the volume. lol
Feb 05 02:41:05 <mod6>	christsakes all of this stuff is making me so mad im sounding like EskimoBob
Feb 05 02:41:31 <Ukyo>	"u mad bro?" :P
Feb 05 02:41:38 <mod6>	haha
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Feb 05 02:44:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 240 @ 0.0053 = 1.272 BTC [-]
Feb 05 02:44:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.005 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Feb 05 02:44:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 460 @ 0.0045 = 2.07 BTC [-]
Feb 05 02:49:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.011 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 02:53:57 <mod6>	werd
Feb 05 02:54:30 <Ukyo>	weird
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Feb 05 02:54:38 <mod6>	jurov || smickles I told this guy tromilol that he could get options from you
Feb 05 02:54:44 <mod6>	in #bitcoin-otc
Feb 05 02:54:58 <Ukyo>	jurov does options?
Feb 05 02:55:22 <mod6>	he runs coinbr
Feb 05 02:55:30 <mod6>	don't they do options?
Feb 05 02:55:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069452 = 3.001 BTC [-]
Feb 05 02:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8203 @ 0.00069437 = 5.6959 BTC [-]
Feb 05 02:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3676 @ 0.00069311 = 2.5479 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 02:58:34 <Ukyo>	coinbr is just a passthrough
Feb 05 02:58:42 <Ukyo>	it does mpex's options i guess
Feb 05 02:58:59 <Ukyo>	well its not a "passthrough" but you get my meaning
Feb 05 03:00:27 <mod6>	yeah, totally. they're a secondary market really.
Feb 05 03:01:30 <mod6>	anyway, either of those guys should be able to hook him up, he says:
Feb 05 03:01:39 <mod6>	(23:58) < tromilol> I want buy a whole lot of options in case btc goes stratospheric
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Feb 05 03:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00069971 = 1.1195 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:10:57 <PsychoticBoy_>	Talking about the eskimo, it is quite without Bob
Feb 05 03:11:37 <PsychoticBoy_>	Eskimo "the stirrer" Bob
Feb 05 03:11:41 <Ukyo>	prolly spending his time @ the pottery wheel >,>
Feb 05 03:13:53 <maximian>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1504707#msg1504707
Feb 05 03:14:07 <maximian>	Deprived makes a good point.
Feb 05 03:14:19 <maximian>	I guess we'll have to see what MP says.
Feb 05 03:17:47 <Ukyo>	well, at this point what will MP do ?
Feb 05 03:17:49 <Ukyo>	rollback ? -_-
Feb 05 03:17:55 <Ukyo>	doubtfull'
Feb 05 03:17:59 <Ukyo>	delist sdice ?
Feb 05 03:18:03 <Ukyo>	doubtfull..
Feb 05 03:18:10 <Ukyo>	fine erik? doubtfull, wasnt him
Feb 05 03:18:36 <mod6>	rollbacks never ever work out the way they should either
Feb 05 03:18:47 <mod6>	which is why its such a fucking joke when wall street does it
Feb 05 03:18:50 <Ukyo>	besides, it would effect other things
Feb 05 03:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0044 = 1.76 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 03:19:31 <mod6>	wb!
Feb 05 03:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	heya
Feb 05 03:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 05 03:19:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.41001, Best ask: 20.50879, Bid-ask spread: 0.09878, Last trade: 20.41000, 24 hour volume: 49661.44876349, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 20.89000, 24 hour vwap: 20.33937
Feb 05 03:20:03 <error4733>	hello MP
Feb 05 03:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	how goes ?
Feb 05 03:20:11 <error4733>	big drame here :)
Feb 05 03:20:13 <mod6>	well... heheh
Feb 05 03:20:14 <Ukyo>	hey MP
Feb 05 03:20:17 <Ukyo>	can you process mpex deposits
Feb 05 03:20:18 <Ukyo>	?
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Feb 05 03:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, one moment.
Feb 05 03:20:54 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 o ?
Feb 05 03:21:30 <Ukyo>	these "new" 5mil shares of sdice
Feb 05 03:21:32 <Ukyo>	ppl are crying
Feb 05 03:21:35 <Ukyo>	well
Feb 05 03:21:39 <Ukyo>	a couple
Feb 05 03:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	ohoho what happened to s.dice
Feb 05 03:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	did luke kill it ?
Feb 05 03:21:48 <Ukyo>	no, +5mil shares
Feb 05 03:21:50 <Ukyo>	released
Feb 05 03:22:01 <mod6>	@ .0044
Feb 05 03:22:02 <Ukyo>	lemme get you the thread
Feb 05 03:22:16 <Ukyo>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1504652#msg1504652
Feb 05 03:22:17 <Ukyo>	theres that
Feb 05 03:22:18 <Ukyo>	heh
Feb 05 03:22:21 <mod6>	the big question is did he violate the contract
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Feb 05 03:22:31 <Ukyo>	mod6: who though.
Feb 05 03:22:36 <mod6>	who? ev
Feb 05 03:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Feb 05 03:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	good time to buy i guess
Feb 05 03:22:51 <Ukyo>	mircea_popescu: : thts why i asked you to do deposits
Feb 05 03:22:52 <Ukyo>	real quick
Feb 05 03:22:53 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 05 03:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 no ?
Feb 05 03:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	ipo ended jan 3rd, rest of shares were added feb 3rd
Feb 05 03:23:53 <mod6>	b) at a price no less than the higher of the 1 day average price and the 30 day average price then current on MPEx ;
Feb 05 03:24:25 <mod6>	Everyone is wondering if this statement is in play because he sold the tranche at .0044
Feb 05 03:24:30 <mod6>	!ticker m S.DiCE
Feb 05 03:24:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00544701 / 0.007395 (286728 shares, 1,561.81 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00674716 / 0.007395 (953182 shares, 6,431.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00516138 / 0.0075 (6135135 shares, 31,665.79 BTC)
Feb 05 03:24:34 <error4733>	mp can you detail the 2.2.a on IPO details ?
Feb 05 03:25:04 <Bowjob>	I was under the impression that the share issuance mean releasing shares to public
Feb 05 03:25:48 <Bowjob>	if anything I think the right thing to do is leave at 0.44, next block is at 0.70 onwards
Feb 05 03:25:52 <Bowjob>	that way everyone is happy
Feb 05 03:26:09 <Ukyo>	i am happy with more 0.0044 blocks >,>
Feb 05 03:26:14 <Ukyo>	everyone else should be too
Feb 05 03:26:15 <Bowjob>	we get our cheap shares new investors get cheap shares, value goes up
Feb 05 03:26:19 <Bowjob>	im not
Feb 05 03:26:28 <Bowjob>	until topace goes online so i can buy those too
Feb 05 03:26:28 <mod6>	im still convinced that he did this wrong
Feb 05 03:26:29 <Ukyo>	everyone gets cheap shares, then it goes up
Feb 05 03:26:42 <Bowjob>	yeah. but wait till i get a private offering
Feb 05 03:26:42 <Ukyo>	bow: lol get them elsewhere
Feb 05 03:26:42 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 03:26:58 <Ukyo>	BF, coinbr, btct
Feb 05 03:27:19 <Bowjob>	havelock tends to rise the highest. perfect for cashing out ^^
Feb 05 03:27:48 <Bowjob>	I'll crash the havelock price at 0.44 then ask for an offering
Feb 05 03:28:00 <Ukyo>	go for it heh
Feb 05 03:28:07 <Bowjob>	i need topace for that
Feb 05 03:28:07 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 03:28:10 <Bowjob>	hes asleep
Feb 05 03:28:21 <Ukyo>	sms him :P
Feb 05 03:28:36 <Ukyo>	"WAKE UP AND GIVE ME OFFERING" :P
Feb 05 03:28:37 <Bowjob>	its 3.30 am
Feb 05 03:28:38 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 03:28:40 <Bowjob>	id rather not
Feb 05 03:28:57 <Ukyo>	might be gone by the time he wakes up
Feb 05 03:29:02 <mod6>	THIS SHIT DONT SLEE
Feb 05 03:29:04 <mod6>	P
Feb 05 03:29:08 <Ukyo>	then if yours 0.0070 goes into play, then you have to pay full
Feb 05 03:29:57 <Bowjob>	800k shares left
Feb 05 03:29:59 <Bowjob>	thats plenty of time
Feb 05 03:30:09 <error4733>	36h
Feb 05 03:30:15 <Ukyo>	5hrs
Feb 05 03:30:17 <error4733>	or24
Feb 05 03:30:26 <error4733>	bet ?
Feb 05 03:30:29 *	Ukyo grins
Feb 05 03:30:35 <Ukyo>	I'm too nice to take that bet
Feb 05 03:30:48 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 03:30:53 <Ukyo>	seriously.
Feb 05 03:30:54 <error4733>	agree
Feb 05 03:31:01 <Bowjob>	get the rota back!
Feb 05 03:31:08 <Ukyo>	Bowjob: : LOL
Feb 05 03:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	okay, all deposits flushed
Feb 05 03:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	have fun boys
Feb 05 03:31:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 210000 @ 0.0044 = 924 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:31:36 <Bowjob>	so mp, was there a breach in contract?
Feb 05 03:31:39 *	Ukyo whistles
Feb 05 03:31:42 <Bowjob>	Wow
Feb 05 03:31:42 <Ukyo>	>,>
Feb 05 03:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 227272 @ 0.0044 = 999.9968 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:31:46 <Ukyo>	I didn do it
Feb 05 03:31:57 <Ukyo>	btw
Feb 05 03:31:59 <Bowjob>	Dude dont be greedy!! leave me some :(
Feb 05 03:32:01 <Ukyo>	how much did you wanna bet?
Feb 05 03:32:05 <mod6>	lol well there was 1/2
Feb 05 03:32:05 <error4733>	5min
Feb 05 03:32:05 <Ukyo>	just curious
Feb 05 03:32:10 <Ukyo>	LOL
Feb 05 03:32:10 <Bowjob>	Fuck
Feb 05 03:32:12 <Bowjob>	:(
Feb 05 03:32:26 <Ukyo>	i am pretty sure
Feb 05 03:32:28 <Ukyo>	the rest will be gone
Feb 05 03:32:32 <Ukyo>	in 2`4 hours
Feb 05 03:32:38 <Bowjob>	I know erik is gonna sell the next one at higher
Feb 05 03:32:40 <Ukyo>	i know other ppl that willbe doing it
Feb 05 03:32:52 <Namworld>	I'll reiterate my offer to broker them for you
Feb 05 03:33:01 <Ukyo>	yeah, Namworld's good :)
Feb 05 03:33:12 <Ukyo>	or just pay a btc and signup on coinbr
Feb 05 03:33:15 <Ukyo>	and get them straight from mpex
Feb 05 03:33:18 <Ukyo>	and send them to havelock
Feb 05 03:33:25 <Ukyo>	then you are sure to get em
Feb 05 03:33:27 <Bowjob>	Nam, do you issue shares?
Feb 05 03:33:36 <Bowjob>	like dead terra? or just have it sent to james
Feb 05 03:33:43 <Namworld>	I have BTC-BOND on BTCT.co
Feb 05 03:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob nope ?
Feb 05 03:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	what would be the breach ?
Feb 05 03:33:51 <Namworld>	and there's BitVPS too
Feb 05 03:34:04 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 05 03:34:06 <Bowjob>	there was a confusion about the contract.. hold on
Feb 05 03:34:06 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00481465 / 0.007395 (724000 shares, 3,485.81 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00600902 / 0.007395 (1390454 shares, 8,355.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00511072 / 0.0075 (6572407 shares, 33,589.79 BTC)
Feb 05 03:34:12 <Namworld>	I've just submitted S.MPOE, S.DICE & S.BBET passthrough on BTCT.co, pending approval
Feb 05 03:34:14 <Ukyo>	Namworld: that buy was great use of btc-bond
Feb 05 03:34:27 <Ukyo>	good thing you dont have to pay them out in large profits if you dont want to lol
Feb 05 03:34:27 <Bowjob>	" All future share issuance will be made only a) subject to approval by MPEx and b) at a price no less than the higher of the 1 day average price and the 30 day average price then current on MPEx ; "
Feb 05 03:34:34 <Ukyo>	but you do anyways
Feb 05 03:34:39 <Bowjob>	What does that mean exactly?
Feb 05 03:34:52 <Ukyo>	nam: ah that reminds me
Feb 05 03:35:12 <Ukyo>	never did turn on terras bbet pt :/
Feb 05 03:35:23 <Ukyo>	he picked up like 5k really cheap lol
Feb 05 03:36:24 <Bowjob>	the big whale would do well if he downs the dice 11k btc
Feb 05 03:36:33 <Bowjob>	and buys shares of dice with his winnings
Feb 05 03:36:47 <Bowjob>	let hisother whale buddies play instead
Feb 05 03:37:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 92512 @ 0.0044 = 407.0528 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:37:21 <Namworld>	what Bowjob said
Feb 05 03:37:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.5321 = 6.3852 BTC [-]
Feb 05 03:37:39 <Bowjob>	Nam, can you get me 80 BTC worth of shares?
Feb 05 03:38:42 <Ukyo>	261k left
Feb 05 03:38:52 <Namworld>	If I can get a deposit done by mircea right away.
Feb 05 03:38:58 <Namworld>	If only he'd come around
Feb 05 03:39:05 <Namworld>	I already bought max for myself
Feb 05 03:39:05 <Ukyo>	he already did deposits
Feb 05 03:39:07 <Ukyo>	a few mini ago
Feb 05 03:39:10 <Ukyo>	oh
Feb 05 03:39:23 <Namworld>	oh yeah, I see him posting 2 lines
Feb 05 03:39:31 <Namworld>	Hey mircea, can process a deposit right away?
Feb 05 03:40:02 <Ukyo>	if Nam cant do it, seriously try coinbr.
Feb 05 03:40:13 <Ukyo>	they _will_ be gone in a few hours
Feb 05 03:40:15 <Ukyo>	if not sooner
Feb 05 03:40:26 <Ukyo>	I highly doubt topace will be awake before they are gone
Feb 05 03:41:22 <Namworld>	mircea_popescu
Feb 05 03:41:38 <Namworld>	^ important to use exact name for IRC client to annoy an user =P
Feb 05 03:41:45 <Ukyo>	lol
Feb 05 03:43:52 <Ukyo>	oh geez
Feb 05 03:44:01 <Ukyo>	new massive-ruby-rails exploit https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rubyonrails-security/1h2DR63ViGo
Feb 05 03:44:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob yes, but this wasn't a future share issuance.
Feb 05 03:44:14 <Bowjob>	ah this is too stressful lol
Feb 05 03:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	this was the original, guy got 100mn shares, of which 10mn were ipod
Feb 05 03:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	and the remainder to be added to his acct 1 month after ipo closes.
Feb 05 03:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	ipo started august, last share was sold jan 3rd (announced ehre)
Feb 05 03:44:14 <Namworld>	you mean AGAIN or you're late?
Feb 05 03:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	feb 3rd he got the rest of his 40mn shares and i guess he put some on sale.
Feb 05 03:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	no breach.
Feb 05 03:44:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 92512 @ 0.0044 = 407.0528 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:44:41 <Namworld>	@ukyo
Feb 05 03:44:46 <mod6>	what about part b?
Feb 05 03:44:48 <Ukyo>	again
Feb 05 03:44:49 <Bowjob>	all right
Feb 05 03:44:52 <mod6>	how does that apply or not apply
Feb 05 03:44:54 <Bowjob>	thx for claryfiying
Feb 05 03:44:54 <Namworld>	arf
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Feb 05 03:45:07 <Ukyo>	versions 2.3.x and 3.0.x.
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Feb 05 03:45:09 <Ukyo>	effected
Feb 05 03:45:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20 @ 0.0044 = 0.088 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:45:35 <mod6>	hmmm ok well im off.
Feb 05 03:45:37 <mod6>	c-ya
Feb 05 03:46:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 227272 @ 0.0044 = 999.9968 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:46:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0044 = 0.0132 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:47:02 <maximian>	almost all gone… awesome!
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Feb 05 03:47:16 <Bowjob>	Wow
Feb 05 03:47:19 <Bowjob>	I'm screwed
Feb 05 03:47:20 <Ukyo>	Yold you
Feb 05 03:47:23 <Ukyo>	dood
Feb 05 03:47:26 <Namworld>	I pmed you bowjob
Feb 05 03:47:27 <Ukyo>	nam or coinbr
Feb 05 03:47:27 <Bowjob>	Yes,
Feb 05 03:47:27 <Ukyo>	if you want em
Feb 05 03:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2721 @ 0.00069971 = 1.9039 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:47:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2180 @ 0.00069999 = 1.526 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:47:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5449 @ 0.0007 = 3.8143 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:48:21 *	mircea_popescu reads up lol
Feb 05 03:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16831 @ 0.0044 = 74.0564 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:48:53 <Namworld>	Check PM Bowjob, or you want to forget about it?
Feb 05 03:48:57 <Namworld>	Ah nevermind
Feb 05 03:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	<Ukyo> I highly doubt topace will be awake before they are gone << BTC FINANCE NEVERSLEEPS!
Feb 05 03:49:06 <Bowjob>	wait
Feb 05 03:49:10 <Namworld>	Looks like it's gone
Feb 05 03:49:13 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 05 03:49:22 <maximian>	like a bunch of starving hounds… lol
Feb 05 03:49:24 <Namworld>	17k left
Feb 05 03:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	<Ukyo> new massive-ruby-rails << exploit dude fuck me, ANOTHER ONE !?
Feb 05 03:49:42 <Namworld>	yeah... awesome isn't it.
Feb 05 03:49:46 <Bowjob>	Well
Feb 05 03:49:47 <Bowjob>	:(
Feb 05 03:49:57 <Bowjob>	This didn't happen. Voorhees never sold cheap dice
Feb 05 03:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	jessu god.
Feb 05 03:50:01 <Bowjob>	lalalala i cant hear you
Feb 05 03:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	and to think people STILL use ror for btc stuff
Feb 05 03:50:06 <mircea_popescu>	insanity.
Feb 05 03:50:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0044 = 0.88 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:50:32 <Bowjob>	Nam, thanks for the offer, my heart pounded for a bit tho >_>
Feb 05 03:50:43 <Namworld>	Bowjob: someone put for sale 500k S.DICE @ 0.0008 BTC each not long ago. Error sale. It was there for a few seconds before being canceled, free to be taken.
Feb 05 03:51:01 <Namworld>	and it was ipoed at 0.0032
Feb 05 03:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob maybe he sells more who knows
Feb 05 03:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	there are guys around who bought s.dice at 0.0008 so
Feb 05 03:51:15 <mircea_popescu>	actually, i see 17k left at 44 ?
Feb 05 03:51:17 <Bowjob>	I can still send it?
Feb 05 03:51:25 <Namworld>	Yes
Feb 05 03:51:34 <Namworld>	If I can't get them, I'll return the BTC
Feb 05 03:51:54 <Ukyo>	ah nm then nam
Feb 05 03:51:56 <Ukyo>	if hes taking all of them
Feb 05 03:51:59 <Ukyo>	ignore my pm
Feb 05 03:51:59 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 05 03:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Feb 05 03:52:13 <assbot>	Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
Feb 05 03:52:31 <Ukyo>	0,o
Feb 05 03:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 17179 @ 0.0044 = 75.5876 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.007 = 3.5 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 321 @ 0.00739497 = 2.3738 BTC [+]
Feb 05 03:52:46 <Bowjob>	Nope, goner
Feb 05 03:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 05 03:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00468036 / 0.007395 (1078838 shares, 5,049.36 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00568318 / 0.007395 (1745292 shares, 9,918.82 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00507464 / 0.0075 (6927245 shares, 35,153.34 BTC)
Feb 05 03:52:53 <maximian>	well that was quick
Feb 05 03:52:54 <Bowjob>	Gratz
Feb 05 03:52:59 <error4733>	bam
Feb 05 03:53:05 <Bowjob>	I underestimated the power of mpex
Feb 05 03:53:05 <Bowjob>	fuck
Feb 05 03:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol so basically... they went 5 mins after i showed up and flushed deposits ?
Feb 05 03:53:14 <Bowjob>	mp
Feb 05 03:53:15 <Namworld>	It's gone. It's all gone.
Feb 05 03:53:16 <Ukyo>	error: how were you gonna bet errlier? LOL
Feb 05 03:53:20 <Bowjob>	you are one powerful catalyst you know that?
Feb 05 03:53:20 <Namworld>	mircea: exactly
Feb 05 03:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Feb 05 03:53:33 <Bowjob>	had you not shown up, that dice would stay there
Feb 05 03:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	5k volume in a day
Feb 05 03:53:44 <Bowjob>	i know you have a big ego and all, but you deserve it this time
Feb 05 03:53:45 <Bowjob>	^
Feb 05 03:53:48 <maximian>	I think we made evoorhees fell bad enough that the next 1,000,000 will be at or above 0.007
Feb 05 03:53:58 <mircea_popescu>	lol i don't have a big ego, i just bruise op's egos
Feb 05 03:53:59 <Bowjob>	yes, im okay with that
Feb 05 03:54:03 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 03:54:11 <Namworld>	Not always tho. I don't agree on most topics with Mircea I think.
Feb 05 03:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	maximian well, if indeed it was him selling then ya, 44 was maybe a little low
Feb 05 03:54:17 <Bowjob>	its a crazy undervalue by erik
Feb 05 03:54:18 <maximian>	we really freaked out on him… heh heh
Feb 05 03:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	he could have gotten moar
Feb 05 03:54:32 <Bowjob>	yeah, we gave erik a good scolding
Feb 05 03:54:32 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 03:54:33 <Bowjob>	:/
Feb 05 03:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	poor guy
Feb 05 03:54:40 <Ukyo>	i think his investor
Feb 05 03:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	and then you wonder why people don't want to list
Feb 05 03:54:43 <Ukyo>	needed cash
Feb 05 03:54:44 <Ukyo>	smoething happened
Feb 05 03:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	HE IS GIVING YOU FREE MONEY
Feb 05 03:54:46 <Ukyo>	or
Feb 05 03:54:50 <Ukyo>	SOMETHING HAPPEEND
Feb 05 03:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	you are scolding him for it
Feb 05 03:54:52 <Bowjob>	i told him i trusted just judgement.. so its all good
Feb 05 03:54:54 <Ukyo>	and we getting screwed
Feb 05 03:54:55 <Ukyo>	lol
Feb 05 03:54:56 <Bowjob>	in the end
Feb 05 03:54:56 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 03:55:13 <Ukyo>	[02:55] <mircea_popescu> HE IS GIVING YOU FREE MONEY
Feb 05 03:55:16 <maximian>	I'm a greedy bastard! I want him to give me MOAR FREE MONEY
Feb 05 03:55:20 <Ukyo>	Let the truth ring out
Feb 05 03:55:23 <Ukyo>	ppl need to stop complaining
Feb 05 03:55:29 <Bowjob>	Yes.. Mammon possessed me
Feb 05 03:55:32 <Bowjob>	:)
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Feb 05 03:55:45 <Bowjob>	nam, thanks again for the pm
Feb 05 03:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	so how big was the block, 500k  ? 1mn ?
Feb 05 03:55:57 <Bowjob>	1m
Feb 05 03:56:10 <maximian>	out of 5M
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Feb 05 03:56:21 <Bowjob>	the next block will be a bit more exp
Feb 05 03:56:38 <Bowjob>	20:55] <Bowjob> just next block please dont undermine us too much >:/
Feb 05 03:56:46 <Bowjob>	[20:55] <evoorhees> bowjob - I think that's fair
Feb 05 03:56:54 <Bowjob>	there you go
Feb 05 03:57:01 <Namworld>	I tried to convince evoorhees to not do that again too...
Feb 05 03:57:21 <Namworld>	I want large walls at 0.75, 0.76, 0.77, 0.78
Feb 05 03:57:22 <Bowjob>	well everyones happy with this. we get cheap dice, new investors get cheap dice
Feb 05 03:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
Feb 05 03:57:29 <Namworld>	1 million each
Feb 05 03:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	maybe that was his idea really
Feb 05 03:57:33 <Bowjob>	now those poor fuckers who cashed out at havelock
Feb 05 03:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	give people a chance you know ?
Feb 05 03:57:42 <Bowjob>	are screwed
Feb 05 03:57:42 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 03:57:49 <Namworld>	Panic selling...
Feb 05 03:57:54 <Bowjob>	last time I panick sold it did not end well
Feb 05 03:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 05 03:57:57 <Namworld>	I've earned good money on those
Feb 05 03:57:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.52100000 / 0.69673814 / 0.76500000 (683 shares, 475.87214730 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.73408862 / 0.89000000 (2245 shares, 1648.02895898 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.61127055 / 0.89000000 (6178 shares, 3776.42947722 BTC)
Feb 05 03:57:59 <Bowjob>	so I learned from my mistakes
Feb 05 03:58:08 <mircea_popescu>	69 not so horrid is it
Feb 05 03:58:12 <Namworld>	I usually try to sell when I have a profit
Feb 05 03:58:24 <Namworld>	sometimes I bit my fingers seeing it keeping going up and up
Feb 05 03:58:32 <Bowjob>	nah
Feb 05 03:58:37 <Bowjob>	im fine iwht 69
Feb 05 03:58:40 <Namworld>	But most of the time, it gives me fund for the next panic sale.
Feb 05 03:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	yo people, i just realised
Feb 05 03:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	this sounds just like a real market and everything!
Feb 05 03:58:56 <Ukyo>	-_-
Feb 05 03:58:58 <Bowjob>	this is a real market
Feb 05 03:58:59 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 05 03:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	whodda thunk it.
Feb 05 03:59:06 <error4733>	!ticker s s.dice
Feb 05 03:59:07 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Feb 05 03:59:08 <dub>	I don't think he had much idea
Feb 05 03:59:08 <Bowjob>	im playing with real moneies here
Feb 05 03:59:10 <Ukyo>	yes, it is a real market. You just realized that? :P
Feb 05 03:59:14 <Namworld>	For a small bitcoin idea worth a few million USD
Feb 05 03:59:19 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 03:59:23 <Bowjob>	it wasnt a small idea
Feb 05 03:59:24 <dub>	seemed shocked that people were'nt over the moon about it
Feb 05 03:59:29 <Bowjob>	i wonder whrre satoshi is
Feb 05 03:59:41 <Ukyo>	jaquzzie
Feb 05 03:59:42 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 05 03:59:54 <Bowjob>	yeah which jacuzzi
Feb 05 03:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	avalon fucks up 1st batc horders, right ? gets in 64 right ?
Feb 05 03:59:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 64 * 80
Feb 05 03:59:59 <gribble>	5120
Feb 05 04:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	that is 5k too.
Feb 05 04:00:05 <Bowjob>	umm
Feb 05 04:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice traded 5k today./
Feb 05 04:00:10 <Bowjob>	huh? what fuck up
Feb 05 04:00:25 <Bowjob>	i know avalon fucked up batch order no 2
Feb 05 04:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	weren't people selling their cookies of walletbit a few days ago ?
Feb 05 04:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	ya is what i mean
Feb 05 04:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	o nm, typo, 2 not 1
Feb 05 04:00:36 <Ukyo>	LOL
Feb 05 04:00:46 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 04:00:47 <Bowjob>	u scared me
Feb 05 04:00:58 <Ukyo>	yifu told me there are quite a few orders
Feb 05 04:01:03 <Ukyo>	that have gone unpaid for and will be expired soon
Feb 05 04:01:05 <Ukyo>	and will go back up
Feb 05 04:01:09 <Bowjob>	i didnt even get thru
Feb 05 04:01:16 <Bowjob>	ill try to snag an avalon
Feb 05 04:01:17 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 05 04:01:19 <Ukyo>	1st blotch or 2nd?
Feb 05 04:01:22 <Bowjob>	2nd
Feb 05 04:01:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.765 = 3.825 BTC [+]
Feb 05 04:01:24 <Ukyo>	really?
Feb 05 04:01:27 <Ukyo>	2nd worked fine for us
Feb 05 04:01:30 <Bowjob>	Theres a company here, avalon milk
Feb 05 04:01:37 <Bowjob>	its such a good company
Feb 05 04:01:41 <Bowjob>	delicious milk..
Feb 05 04:01:42 <Bowjob>	^
Feb 05 04:01:47 <Ukyo>	i'm pretty sure they are unrelated. ;)
Feb 05 04:01:55 <Bowjob>	i know. but avalon stuff is good
Feb 05 04:02:00 <Bowjob>	milk or asic or otherwise
Feb 05 04:02:01 <Bowjob>	:P
Feb 05 04:02:16 <Ukyo>	I bought a fun domain off someone on the forums couple days ago
Feb 05 04:02:21 <Ukyo>	having fun doing some side code with it
Feb 05 04:02:33 <Ukyo>	gonna put one of my avalons on it for sale
Feb 05 04:02:34 <Ukyo>	>:P~
Feb 05 04:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	<Bowjob> Theres a company here, avalon milk << kakobrekla
Feb 05 04:03:08 <Bowjob>	http://www.avalondairy.com/
Feb 05 04:03:15 <Bowjob>	best milk ever
Feb 05 04:03:22 <Bowjob>	theyve been doing it for a while now
Feb 05 04:07:18 <Bowjob>	Looks like flipping of shares have started
Feb 05 04:07:30 <Bowjob>	its like getting a free dice roll that wins
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Feb 05 04:09:17 <gesell>	well that was quick (sdice offering depleted )
Feb 05 04:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol people selling in the pts ?
Feb 05 04:10:39 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 05 04:10:51 <Namworld>	Hey, I also catched some of those PTs
Feb 05 04:10:59 <Namworld>	Will sell back for more
Feb 05 04:12:04 <Namworld>	By the way, anyone selling DMC shares?
Feb 05 04:12:12 <Namworld>	I'd like to increase my stake in that
Feb 05 04:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.msg1504142#msg1504142
Feb 05 04:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	you know what open interest is, right ?
Feb 05 04:14:11 <Namworld>	Thanks about the manual withdrawals...
Feb 05 04:14:14 <Namworld>	part
Feb 05 04:15:06 <Namworld>	You get fees income, better earn it. Manual withdrawal is a minimum it seems for exchanges.
Feb 05 04:15:28 <Namworld>	Or at least, a minimum is a small hot wallet that can be afforded to be lost.
Feb 05 04:15:46 <Bowjob>	!ticker havelock
Feb 05 04:15:46 <assbot>	It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money.
Feb 05 04:15:57 <Bowjob>	.. i fail. someone show me how its done
Feb 05 04:16:46 <Bowjob>	"2013-02-05 04:00:59 	5 	฿0.76500000 	฿3.8250 2013-02-05 03:37:00 	12 	฿0.53210000 	฿6.3852 2013-02-05 02:27:59 	24 	฿0.53210000 	฿12.7704 2013-02-05 02:26:59 	3 	฿0.55000000 	฿1.6500 2013-02-05 02:26:00 	5 	฿0.60000000 	฿3.0000"
Feb 05 04:16:55 <Ukyo>	nam?
Feb 05 04:16:56 <Bowjob>	Mhm, disregard that, it's an eyesore
Feb 05 04:17:07 <Ukyo>	there are a bunch of DMC for sale on BF
Feb 05 04:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.0007 = 8.925 BTC [+]
Feb 05 04:17:48 <mircea_popescu>	Ukyo you gonna get with the assbot already ?
Feb 05 04:18:09 <Bowjob>	anyone here play pc games
Feb 05 04:18:15 <Ukyo>	MP: I am trying to finish a big thing for BF atm
Feb 05 04:18:19 <Bowjob>	just wondering what does everyone do here?
Feb 05 04:18:29 <Ukyo>	and have a handful of minor things to get done
Feb 05 04:18:34 <Ukyo>	but
Feb 05 04:18:47 <Ukyo>	once the API goes public, or if kako joins the API beta list
Feb 05 04:18:49 <Ukyo>	he can just do it
Feb 05 04:18:57 <Bowjob>	im 20 years old, i only work 6 months at a nursery selling plants, i love videogames, economics, sushi, typical kid
Feb 05 04:19:14 <Bowjob>	are you guys like me? or are you guys old wealthy secret illuminati
Feb 05 04:19:30 <Ukyo>	mircea_popescu is the oldest.
Feb 05 04:19:32 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 05 04:19:44 <Bowjob>	i know theres a 13 year old kid on btctalk
Feb 05 04:20:06 <Bowjob>	im under the impression most traders here are young people who can take the risk
Feb 05 04:20:20 <Bowjob>	who dress casually.. not those wall street peeps
Feb 05 04:21:08 <Bowjob>	when I look at the mt gox tracker thread I find it comical people post pictures of rockets, walls, ect
Feb 05 04:21:10 <truffles>	why would illumi's be interested in bitcoin though
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Feb 05 04:21:25 <Bowjob>	dunno. we could be the new world order
Feb 05 04:21:26 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 04:21:36 <Ukyo>	and with that
Feb 05 04:21:39 <Ukyo>	I am gonna make some food
Feb 05 04:21:39 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 05 04:21:58 <Bowjob>	yeah man. speaking of food. i got some free coffee from a bitcoin user
Feb 05 04:22:09 <truffles>	there was an episode of "The Goodwife" about bitcoin being a threat to the govt
Feb 05 04:22:20 <Bowjob>	he gave it away due to rally which made people spend less likely spend bitcoins
Feb 05 04:22:26 <truffles>	bitcoin won the case afai can recall
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Feb 05 04:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	im in my 30s, retired a decade ago, lived in the states, mexico, costa rica, eventually got bored
Feb 05 04:23:39 <truffles>	how does one retire at 30 gtfo
Feb 05 04:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	i've always worn a suit and i never was employed.
Feb 05 04:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	i was 24.
Feb 05 04:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	at the time
Feb 05 04:23:59 <truffles>	pics or it didnt happen
Feb 05 04:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	what'd you like to see ?
Feb 05 04:24:30 <truffles>	like non pixelized jpeg of u in a suit lol
Feb 05 04:24:59 <mircea_popescu>	um k
Feb 05 04:25:20 <truffles>	something that proves it
Feb 05 04:25:26 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 05 04:25:31 <truffles>	without giving away your bank details
Feb 05 04:25:32 <Bowjob>	yeah, im a bored 20 year old
Feb 05 04:25:32 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 04:25:44 <Diablo-D3>	[04:22:09] <truffles> there was an episode of "The Goodwife" about bitcoin being a threat to the govt
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Feb 05 04:25:51 <Diablo-D3>	not exactly
Feb 05 04:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/
Feb 05 04:26:15 <truffles>	well they did say it was being used like money
Feb 05 04:26:20 <mircea_popescu>	pick one from there, they're the historical background pix of my blog
Feb 05 04:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	the bg_ stuff
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Feb 05 04:27:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_ian2010.jpg that one is prolly bitcoin-adequate :D
Feb 05 04:27:10 <truffles>	good looking guy!
Feb 05 04:27:24 <Bowjob>	mhm, not bad.
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Feb 05 04:27:35 <Bowjob>	so mp, you have a degree in finance?
Feb 05 04:28:12 <truffles>	these very nice pictures still dont prove ure balling
Feb 05 04:28:17 <Bowjob>	you're sitting ontop of one of the biggest btc compannies..
Feb 05 04:28:30 <Bowjob>	truffles, im sure he's balling rightnow with mpex and all
Feb 05 04:28:34 <truffles>	i love playing monopoly!
Feb 05 04:28:44 <truffles>	i have no idea what that is
Feb 05 04:29:52 <truffles>	i have a problem with a system that only nerdy people want to jump on board with
Feb 05 04:30:01 <awkorama_>	hi guys
Feb 05 04:31:38 <Ukyo>	MP: whats up with teh monopoly knock off board?
Feb 05 04:31:38 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 05 04:31:51 <awkorama_>	anyone knows how the zero confirmation on SD works? I mean I understand that there is transaction 1, that is the bet and transaction 2 that is the price and t2 takes its output from t1, but what prevents the attacker from waiting to see t2 and then try to stop t1 by invalidating it (e.g. double spend) ?
Feb 05 04:32:33 <truffles>	t1 t2 what langugage is this heh
Feb 05 04:32:54 <awkorama_>	transaction 1, transaction 2
Feb 05 04:33:29 <truffles>	dont mind me, i have no technical experience with this
Feb 05 04:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	truffles well, you wanted pix in a suit
Feb 05 04:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	there's what, a dozen there
Feb 05 04:34:00 <truffles>	oh i only looked at 2..
Feb 05 04:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	Ukyo i dunno. is it a knockoff ?
Feb 05 04:34:07 <mircea_popescu>	was playing with some kids in a bar.
Feb 05 04:34:10 <truffles>	let me go look at some more
Feb 05 04:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	awkorama_ you prolly should ask dooglus or people in the forum sd watching thread
Feb 05 04:34:36 <mircea_popescu>	they know more than us i imagine
Feb 05 04:35:05 <truffles>	who took this pics `
Feb 05 04:35:27 <Bowjob>	it was PR
Feb 05 04:35:27 <truffles>	theyre so cheeky lol
Feb 05 04:35:29 <Bowjob>	:0
Feb 05 04:35:39 <Bowjob>	MPOE-PR took the pics ob
Feb 05 04:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00564885 = 3.3893 BTC [-]
Feb 05 04:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0071999 = 2.88 BTC [+]
Feb 05 04:35:55 <truffles>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_mdld.jpg lol
Feb 05 04:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	no it wasn't !?
Feb 05 04:35:58 <Bowjob>	she has an awesome job
Feb 05 04:36:02 <mircea_popescu>	they're over the course od many years
Feb 05 04:36:04 <Bowjob>	mp i was joking lol
Feb 05 04:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	the one by the seaside is in villahermosa i think
Feb 05 04:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	the monopoly one is in timisoara
Feb 05 04:36:23 <Bowjob>	like a boss
Feb 05 04:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	the current one on trilema is in luxor
Feb 05 04:36:39 <Bowjob>	MP, you are left handed no?
Feb 05 04:36:44 <mircea_popescu>	nop
Feb 05 04:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	im ambidextrous
Feb 05 04:36:52 <Bowjob>	oh
Feb 05 04:36:54 <Bowjob>	i see
Feb 05 04:37:16 <Bowjob>	On that pic you had your watch on your right hand, normally people put it on their left if they are right handed
Feb 05 04:37:21 <Bowjob>	but ambi is also fine i guess
Feb 05 04:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.0071999 = 17.9998 BTC [+]
Feb 05 04:37:34 <truffles>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_oct2010.jpg look like those guys from tv show "Fringe"
Feb 05 04:37:41 <truffles>	what do they call em!!
Feb 05 04:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	that's in frankfurt
Feb 05 04:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	(obviously)
Feb 05 04:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	and as far as ballinggoes... let me see here
Feb 05 04:38:09 <Bowjob>	mhm, i see bear and bulls
Feb 05 04:38:19 <Diablo-D3>	a bear and a bull
Feb 05 04:38:21 <Bowjob>	they should add pig
Feb 05 04:38:21 <Diablo-D3>	hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Feb 05 04:38:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/nsfw-mosu-cu-joarda/
Feb 05 04:38:29 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: what would that signify? a stale market?
Feb 05 04:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/
Feb 05 04:38:49 <Bowjob>	stale would be bearish imo
Feb 05 04:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/a-nins-a-nins/
Feb 05 04:39:07 <truffles>	nsfw tsk tsk
Feb 05 04:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Feb 05 04:39:12 <Bowjob>	Well, I was thinking of investor styles. Bears make money by shorting, Bulls make money buy holding
Feb 05 04:39:19 <Bowjob>	and pigs lose money by shorting and holding
Feb 05 04:39:31 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: oh, so pigs represent the 99%?
Feb 05 04:39:51 <Bowjob>	well, im not sure is 99% of the investors lose money investing
Feb 05 04:40:06 <truffles>	im pretty sure im losing if i did
Feb 05 04:40:08 <Bowjob>	i've doubled my monies essentially holding dice.. so im not sure if its that hard
Feb 05 04:40:19 <Namworld>	They represent the idiots. Oddly politicians are often depicted as pigs.
Feb 05 04:40:30 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 05 04:41:22 <truffles>	somebody elected that pig so, what do we call the people`
Feb 05 04:41:42 <Bowjob>	sheep
Feb 05 04:42:12 <truffles>	just need a wolf to reign in those sheep and bam
Feb 05 04:42:37 <Bowjob>	what do we call spectators then
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Feb 05 04:43:40 <truffles>	voyeurist?`
Feb 05 04:44:19 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 04:44:22 <Bowjob>	thats not the term!
Feb 05 04:44:54 <truffles>	what kinda term you looking for here
Feb 05 04:45:04 <truffles>	bowjob im pretty bored too lol
Feb 05 04:45:09 <Bowjob>	animal term for a spectator
Feb 05 04:45:22 <Bowjob>	we have bulls, sheep, wolf, pig, bear
Feb 05 04:45:29 <truffles>	oh
Feb 05 04:45:49 <truffles>	rat, snail, cockroach?
Feb 05 04:46:06 <truffles>	cockroach suits me thinks
Feb 05 04:46:14 <Bowjob>	for a spectator?
Feb 05 04:46:23 <truffles>	yea they never die
Feb 05 04:46:36 <truffles>	unless u mean speculator?
Feb 05 04:46:37 <Bowjob>	no, cockroaches get squashed.. spectators dont
Feb 05 04:46:42 <Bowjob>	no i dont mean speculator
Feb 05 04:46:42 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 04:46:54 <truffles>	what animal doesnt get killed
Feb 05 04:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	owl.
Feb 05 04:47:03 <Bowjob>	yes, mp got it
Feb 05 04:47:11 <truffles>	ok..
Feb 05 04:47:13 <Bowjob>	owl far from reach of the chaos
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Feb 05 04:49:37 <truffles>	well lying in the shadows is that owl hunter
Feb 05 04:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.0007 = 9.695 BTC [+]
Feb 05 04:50:50 <Bowjob>	this is a wierd convo
Feb 05 04:51:27 <truffles>	ure a weird dude
Feb 05 04:52:15 <Bowjob>	*shurgs
Feb 05 04:52:38 <Namworld>	What's a shurgs? =P
Feb 05 04:52:59 <truffles>	better to have known enemy than an unknown one
Feb 05 04:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=217077
Feb 05 04:53:13 <Namworld>	ure wierd shurgs... you guys speak a curious dialect.
Feb 05 04:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	mpex not hacked. fedwire hacked?
Feb 05 04:53:23 <Bowjob>	I can't spell anymore. I've graduated hs 3 years ago
Feb 05 04:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin 1 : fiat 0.
Feb 05 04:53:45 <Bowjob>	I got some 87% in english which means that my english has deteriorated somewhat
Feb 05 04:54:08 <truffles>	wont find me speaking the queens english in a non-essay format
Feb 05 04:54:53 <truffles>	fedwire.. must google..
Feb 05 04:55:17 <Bowjob>	Let's have a moment of silence for the poor people at Havelock who panic sold earlier.
Feb 05 04:55:50 <mircea_popescu>	well... they were trading as high as 82 or something
Feb 05 04:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	in spite of the div cut
Feb 05 04:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	so, if they can go 10% over they should be ok with 10% under too neh ?
Feb 05 04:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.0007 = 6.615 BTC [+]
Feb 05 04:56:26 <Bowjob>	umm, its more than 10% under earlier
Feb 05 04:56:29 <Bowjob>	it went to 0.52
Feb 05 04:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Feb 05 04:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	well, i was going by avgs
Feb 05 04:56:52 <Bowjob>	everythings back to normal
Feb 05 04:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	but you have a point
Feb 05 04:56:58 <truffles>	is this BTC related speak or economic related
Feb 05 04:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	its mpex realted!!!!!
Feb 05 04:57:30 <mircea_popescu>	winwinwinwin
Feb 05 04:58:16 <truffles>	operated by Mircea Popescu of Romania hmmm
Feb 05 04:58:23 <truffles>	are u affiliated?
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Feb 05 05:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/breaking-bitcoin-1-fiat-0/
Feb 05 05:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	lalala
Feb 05 05:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	truffles hm ?
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Feb 05 05:00:51 <Bowjob>	!ticker
Feb 05 05:00:52 <truffles>	ure happy about something so im assuming u own shares or somethng
Feb 05 05:00:52 <assbot>	I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
Feb 05 05:00:58 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 05 05:00:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.45612, Best ask: 20.56889, Bid-ask spread: 0.11277, Last trade: 20.45612, 24 hour volume: 45913.24160064, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 20.89000, 24 hour vwap: 20.33950
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Feb 05 05:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	truffles i own a majority stake in mpex
Feb 05 05:01:59 <truffles>	oh well i hope that works out for u
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Feb 05 05:04:40 <truffles>	so can one buy a 5 year bond in BTC currency?
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Feb 05 05:06:41 <Bowjob>	5 years is an eternity in bitcoin timeline
Feb 05 05:06:50 <mircea_popescu>	truffles you could buy mpoe bonds and stick with them for 5 years
Feb 05 05:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	they pay interest monthly.
Feb 05 05:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	there are some people going on 1yr+ bynow
Feb 05 05:08:03 <truffles>	just curious about that
Feb 05 05:08:10 <Bowjob>	the interest rate has been really good to investors so far
Feb 05 05:08:18 <truffles>	i mean i still havent figured out how this btc works wont dare go that far
Feb 05 05:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	it did pay 6k or whatever last month
Feb 05 05:08:53 <truffles>	one would think the software writers could have at least put in the option for english language
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Feb 05 05:10:09 <truffles>	being that its one complex system ...
Feb 05 05:11:21 <truffles>	is this channel always this lively heh
Feb 05 05:11:35 <truffles>	gonna go kill some zombies!
Feb 05 05:11:55 <Bowjob>	anyone played the walking dead?
Feb 05 05:11:59 <Bowjob>	best zombie game ever
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Feb 05 05:13:04 <truffles>	nah
Feb 05 05:13:07 <truffles>	blackops 2
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Feb 05 05:21:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.765 = 3.06 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 05:49:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006959 = 3.007 BTC [-]
Feb 05 05:49:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00069576 = 3.7425 BTC [-]
Feb 05 05:55:09 <truffles>	the walking dead tv is getting good
Feb 05 05:58:22 <truffles>	im not that into video games, but when i play, blackops is my game
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Feb 05 06:19:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069602 = 3.0075 BTC [+]
Feb 05 06:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5529 @ 0.00069576 = 3.8469 BTC [-]
Feb 05 06:26:13 <EskimoBob_afk>	lots of screaming about share dumping
Feb 05 06:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00069991 = 4.7594 BTC [+]
Feb 05 06:27:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00069994 = 1.7848 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 06:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141287.0
Feb 05 06:50:32 <mircea_popescu>	this will no doubt go over well.
Feb 05 06:54:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069577 = 3.0064 BTC [-]
Feb 05 06:54:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1431 @ 0.00069576 = 0.9956 BTC [-]
Feb 05 06:54:39 <Diablo-D3>	sigh
Feb 05 06:54:47 <Diablo-D3>	maybe I should just throw my money away and invest it in mpex and sdice
Feb 05 06:56:11 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: on mpex, how are dividends paid?
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Feb 05 06:58:29 <Bugpowder>	when is next s.dice tranche going off?
Feb 05 06:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 owner issues a DIVIDEND|x|Y|z command
Feb 05 06:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder it wasn't said.
Feb 05 07:00:02 <Bugpowder>	any idea of the next price level?
Feb 05 07:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 05 07:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	okay so, i've some meetings to go to right now but ill be back later
Feb 05 07:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	everyone don't panic!
Feb 05 07:02:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5011 @ 0.00069576 = 3.4865 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:02:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4024 @ 0.00069311 = 2.7891 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:02:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.0006919 = 8.545 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:02:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 851 @ 0.00069001 = 0.5872 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:02:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00069001 = 27.6004 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:02:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00069001 = 28.9804 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:02:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155348 @ 0.00069 = 107.1901 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:02:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8178 @ 0.00069 = 5.6428 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:02:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 723 @ 0.00068913 = 0.4982 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:03:21 <Namworld>	People panicked...
Feb 05 07:05:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2677 @ 0.00068913 = 1.8448 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00068827 = 7.5021 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:05:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 423 @ 0.00068749 = 0.2908 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10808 @ 0.00068749 = 7.4304 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8661 @ 0.00068721 = 5.9519 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.0006871 = 9.1384 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10438 @ 0.00068678 = 7.1686 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15324 @ 0.00068663 = 10.5219 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5552 @ 0.00068625 = 3.8101 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00068411 = 0.8893 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00068333 = 3.8266 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00068292 = 2.1512 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00068264 = 3.2767 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00068242 = 5.357 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00068227 = 6.7886 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00068225 = 4.0935 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22350 @ 0.00068223 = 15.2478 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5040 @ 0.00068186 = 3.4366 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19877 @ 0.00068178 = 13.5517 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:08:19 <Namworld>	Going to meetings is apparently bad for the price of assets =P
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Feb 05 07:09:57 <Diablo-D3>	[06:59:40] <mircea_popescu> Diablo-D3 owner issues a DIVIDEND|x|Y|z command
Feb 05 07:10:28 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but Ive never used mpex, I thought it was all pgp signed contracts and shit and didnt actually rely on the mpex servers that much
Feb 05 07:11:20 <StarenseN>	this is pgp signed
Feb 05 07:11:29 <StarenseN>	every actions
Feb 05 07:12:05 <Namworld>	Aye
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Feb 05 07:14:42 <Namworld>	Hmm, some people have put up a part of the S.DICE back on sale in the 0.0069 range
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Feb 05 07:16:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 460 @ 0.0051 = 2.346 BTC [+]
Feb 05 07:17:25 <Namworld>	I really wonder what evoorhees will do for the next slices
Feb 05 07:18:35 <Bugpowder>	I am ready for the next slice
Feb 05 07:19:01 <Bugpowder>	don't panic people
Feb 05 07:19:19 <Bugpowder>	the demand will be able to absorb these shares.
Feb 05 07:19:23 <Namworld>	Will they all get eaten up like that?
Feb 05 07:19:32 <Namworld>	Probably... there was tons of deposits
Feb 05 07:20:11 <Bugpowder>	how fast did the first tranche go?
Feb 05 07:21:02 <Namworld>	Like hmm...
Feb 05 07:21:12 <Bugpowder>	now the 20K BTC wall is down at $21
Feb 05 07:21:20 <Bugpowder>	heh
Feb 05 07:21:33 <Bugpowder>	that could eat 4M shares pretty quick
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Feb 05 07:22:36 <Diablo-D3>	does it still cost money to get an mpex account?
Feb 05 07:23:17 <StarenseN>	30 BTC / 25 BTC with referal
Feb 05 07:23:33 <StarenseN>	24 if you use mine, i'll back you 1BTC i receive
Feb 05 07:23:56 <Diablo-D3>	fuck that.
Feb 05 07:24:03 <Diablo-D3>	mpex is still a scam then
Feb 05 07:24:10 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 05 07:24:39 <Namworld>	Took near 5 hours
Feb 05 07:24:40 <Bugpowder>	RELEASE THE SHARES!
Feb 05 07:24:42 <Namworld>	to sell all
Feb 05 07:24:46 <Bugpowder>	OK good
Feb 05 07:24:49 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 05 07:24:54 <Bugpowder>	some people were asleep
Feb 05 07:25:00 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 05 07:25:07 <Namworld>	They'll bite their fingers
Feb 05 07:25:19 <Namworld>	Just like I have from time to time =/
Feb 05 07:25:34 <StarenseN>	Diablo-D3 you can trade via a passthrough
Feb 05 07:25:49 <Diablo-D3>	yeah but that means the passthrough guy can just steal the shares
Feb 05 07:26:26 <Namworld>	I'll be doing passthroughs for these
Feb 05 07:26:30 <StarenseN>	yes that's a scam
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Feb 05 07:27:05 <Namworld>	If approved, that is
Feb 05 07:27:16 <StarenseN>	yes
Feb 05 07:27:26 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, Im not even sure if I want to do business with avalon
Feb 05 07:27:40 <StarenseN>	just to answer [13:24] <Diablo-D3> mpex is still a scam then
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Feb 05 07:28:31 <StarenseN>	but for me, mp has to lower the fees
Feb 05 07:28:42 <StarenseN>	because BTC gained lot of value last month
Feb 05 07:28:49 <Namworld>	Which he will not do.
Feb 05 07:28:51 *	Guest53176 is now known as thestringpuller
Feb 05 07:29:01 <Namworld>	It's perfect like that to him.
Feb 05 07:29:32 <StarenseN>	he can't maintain that on a long term
Feb 05 07:30:21 <EskimoBob_afk>	Any ideas why he is selling?
Feb 05 07:30:52 <EskimoBob_afk>	Did he found a better business that needs coin?
Feb 05 07:31:04 <Diablo-D3>	whos selling what?
Feb 05 07:32:16 <thestringpuller>	 ;;ticker
Feb 05 07:33:17 <EskimoBob_afk>	Diablo-D3: sdice
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Feb 05 07:33:32 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob_afk: more context
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Feb 05 07:33:50 <StarenseN>	an opportunity, house or something
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Feb 05 07:34:12 <StarenseN>	bankers don't give garantee for this business imo
Feb 05 07:34:36 <StarenseN>	cash is king
Feb 05 07:34:52 <gigavps>	they are releasing more sdice?
Feb 05 07:34:57 <PsychoticBoy>	eskimobob, its better to have the bitcoins now and only pay 50% of interest in 20 years time
Feb 05 07:35:16 <PsychoticBoy>	so win win for evoorhees
Feb 05 07:35:25 <gigavps>	cashing out could imply a couple things
Feb 05 07:35:50 <gigavps>	they could be coming under regulatory pressure
Feb 05 07:36:03 <Diablo-D3>	so the sdice gravy train is over?
Feb 05 07:36:15 <PsychoticBoy>	now the tax train comes
Feb 05 07:36:20 <gigavps>	wouldn't surprise me
Feb 05 07:36:57 <gigavps>	when you flaunt something like sdice around someone with meatspace power will take notice before long
Feb 05 07:37:37 <gigavps>	it's like nefario talking about how the authorities can't shut down glbse
Feb 05 07:37:38 <StarenseN>	it's also a marketing experience I think
Feb 05 07:37:52 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: fuck nefario
Feb 05 07:37:58 <Diablo-D3>	fucking asshole
Feb 05 07:38:09 <Diablo-D3>	hes basically ruined bitcoin
Feb 05 07:38:15 <Uglux>	+1 giga
Feb 05 07:38:35 <gigavps>	people keep asking why i have a claims process
Feb 05 07:38:55 <gigavps>	well, i don't want to end up like nefario and GLBSE
Feb 05 07:39:38 <Diablo-D3>	Im still wondering if I should go ahead with dmc 2.0 or not
Feb 05 07:41:34 <gigavps>	Diablo-D3, if you don't have a lawyer and a plan, that should tell you want to do, then.......
Feb 05 07:41:53 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: that actually is on the plan
Feb 05 07:42:14 <Diablo-D3>	LLC registered in the state of maine, an actual office that isnt in my home, a lawyer, an accountant
Feb 05 07:43:23 <Diablo-D3>	and before you ask why maine, because its a lot easier to talk the state into doing things when you actually pay taxes here
Feb 05 07:44:01 <Diablo-D3>	and maine needs this more than any of the other states
Feb 05 07:45:02 <jurov>	hi all
Feb 05 07:45:19 <jurov>	so erik decided to drop the bomb when neither me nor mp is around
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Feb 05 07:45:27 <Diablo-D3>	what bomb?
Feb 05 07:45:54 <StarenseN>	the news
Feb 05 07:45:59 <jurov>	he IPO'd at 0.0044
Feb 05 07:46:10 <Uglux>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1504386#msg1504386
Feb 05 07:46:12 <Diablo-D3>	what was he ipoing?
Feb 05 07:46:33 <jurov>	looky: http://blockchain.info/address/1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
Feb 05 07:46:47 <Diablo-D3>	oh
Feb 05 07:46:54 <Diablo-D3>	so erik = evoorhees?
Feb 05 07:46:58 <jurov>	yes
Feb 05 07:46:59 <Diablo-D3>	and evorhees owns sdcie?
Feb 05 07:47:01 <jurov>	yes
Feb 05 07:47:10 <StarenseN>	not exactly
Feb 05 07:47:13 <StarenseN>	but yes
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Feb 05 07:47:55 <Diablo-D3>	so why is he selling shares?
Feb 05 07:48:01 <Diablo-D3>	sdice has no equity
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Feb 05 07:51:52 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, I wonder how feasable it is to raise about 10 million dollars
Feb 05 07:52:51 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 05 07:52:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.60667, Best ask: 20.64899, Bid-ask spread: 0.04232, Last trade: 20.60667, 24 hour volume: 39228.27897107, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 20.70000, 24 hour vwap: 20.32508
Feb 05 07:53:02 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 10000000 / 20
Feb 05 07:53:02 <gribble>	500000
Feb 05 07:56:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.759 = 4.554 BTC [-]
Feb 05 07:57:26 <Diablo-D3>	sigh.
Feb 05 07:57:48 <Diablo-D3>	maybe I should just guarantee something like 5% APY over a 10 year period
Feb 05 07:58:23 <gigavps>	Diablo-D3, sound like you need to speak with a lawyer
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Feb 05 08:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00068178 = 2.6249 BTC [-]
Feb 05 08:03:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00069797 = 6.6656 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 08:05:38 <leotreasure>	i'm going to ask a lawyer some questions re investing in S.DICE
Feb 05 08:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1771 @ 0.00069994 = 1.2396 BTC [+]
Feb 05 08:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6074 @ 0.0007 = 4.2518 BTC [+]
Feb 05 08:14:41 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: eventually, yes
Feb 05 08:14:50 <Diablo-D3>	gigavps: the problem is, the bitcoin community just doesnt have the cash
Feb 05 08:14:56 <Diablo-D3>	I dont even know where most of the coins are
Feb 05 08:15:01 <Diablo-D3>	I imagine they've been lost
Feb 05 08:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00069509 = 3.6492 BTC [-]
Feb 05 08:18:58 <Namworld>	They travelled from hand to hand, to end up being gambled and lost on SatoshiDice
Feb 05 08:19:55 <jurov>	and paid on dividends :P
Feb 05 08:20:40 <Uglux>	the great bitcoinmixer: sdice ^^
Feb 05 08:21:20 <gigavps>	Diablo-D3, "the bitcoin community just doesnt have the cash" is an absurd statement
Feb 05 08:21:46 <gigavps>	sdice just collected another $60k
Feb 05 08:21:50 <jurov>	to borrow from mp "most everyone" doesn't have the cash
Feb 05 08:22:03 <gigavps>	avalon just collected $1m
Feb 05 08:22:39 <gigavps>	you are in a community where the main topic is a new form of currency / bartering / trading
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Feb 05 08:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068142 = 2.9444 BTC [-]
Feb 05 08:29:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.007 = 7 BTC [+]
Feb 05 08:29:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6829 @ 0.00068141 = 4.6533 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 08:30:20 <Diablo-D3>	;;last
Feb 05 08:30:20 <gribble>	[05:29:15] <assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6829 @ 0.00068141 = 4.6533 BTC [-]
Feb 05 08:30:25 <Diablo-D3>	heh
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Feb 05 08:33:02 <Namworld>	Hello thick
Feb 05 08:33:06 <ThickAsTh>	Hey thanks
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Feb 05 08:42:03 <Namworld>	Not much happening at this time of the day however.
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Feb 05 08:42:25 <ThickAsTh>	Hehe, indeed, I just wanted to make sure I was in the loop
Feb 05 08:42:40 <Namworld>	Most active around 8pm - 2 am Eastern Time I'd say
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Feb 05 08:43:06 <ThickAsTh>	Cool
Feb 05 08:43:38 <Namworld>	As for me well... I'm out for today
Feb 05 08:43:53 <ThickAsTh>	Did you get a chance to nab new shares on S.DICE?
Feb 05 08:43:57 <Namworld>	With the S.DICE stuff I haven't slept all night.
Feb 05 08:44:05 <Namworld>	Yeah, I nabbed almost 50k
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Feb 05 08:44:30 <mjr__>	hi all
Feb 05 08:44:35 <mjr__>	crazy morning huh?
Feb 05 08:44:35 <Namworld>	hello mjr
Feb 05 08:44:36 <jurov>	hi mjr__
Feb 05 08:44:37 <ThickAsTh>	yeah me too, I slept about 3 hrs
Feb 05 08:44:38 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 05 08:44:47 <mjr__>	you guys on reddit?
Feb 05 08:44:51 <mjr__>	ugh
Feb 05 08:44:55 <jurov>	yea some of us
Feb 05 08:44:58 <ThickAsTh>	i had to wait for BTC to clear to send to DeadTerra
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Feb 05 08:45:17 <ThickAsTh>	haven't heard from Dead as to whether he was able to make trhe purchase for me in time...
Feb 05 08:45:27 <jurov>	mjr__: can you pls help me to wrap my head around https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.msg1504855#msg1504855 ?
Feb 05 08:45:34 <Namworld>	Eh, it's hard moving fast through a broker
Feb 05 08:45:48 <jurov>	or anyone else... how to make out open interest on mpex options?
Feb 05 08:46:14 <jurov>	just add the volume for all options sold in this month?
Feb 05 08:46:20 <jurov>	i don't get it
Feb 05 08:46:28 <ThickAsTh>	yeah, I actually saw it the moment erik posted them and pm'd Dead, but he didn't sign on for 2 or 3 hours
Feb 05 08:46:38 <mjr__>	not sure how we can calculate it
Feb 05 08:46:45 <mjr__>	but it basically means how many contracts exist
Feb 05 08:46:52 <mjr__>	ie. how many options are currently out there
Feb 05 08:47:05 <mjr__>	i sell an option...in order to do that someone has to buy it
Feb 05 08:47:10 <Namworld>	And as you might know Thick, I also run BTC-BOND & I am co-partner in BitVPS
Feb 05 08:47:26 <Namworld>	and on a darker note, I also run BTC-MINING
Feb 05 08:47:32 <mjr__>	so, as these are not "settled" ie. i haven't exercised he hasn't been assigned
Feb 05 08:47:38 <jurov>	hmmm... so if mpoe bot buys back option issued by itself earlier
Feb 05 08:47:45 <jurov>	it decreases the open interest
Feb 05 08:47:46 <EskimoBob_afk>	"Diablo-D3 | hes basically ruined bitcoin" lol, He is probably the only guy who has moped up his shit. The real btc enemies are scumbags like Trendon (or what ever this fucktards name is) and scammy perverts like mircea_popescu
Feb 05 08:47:46 <jurov>	?
Feb 05 08:47:57 <mjr__>	yeah i am not exactly sure how many contracts mpoe is writing
Feb 05 08:47:58 <ThickAsTh>	cool, I don't know much about BRCBOND, but I have looked at BitVPS
Feb 05 08:48:09 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob_afk: none of them managed to derail the effort to bring BTC to $1000
Feb 05 08:48:11 <Diablo-D3>	nefario did
Feb 05 08:48:17 <ThickAsTh>	I actually have a small hosting business, using Rackspace
Feb 05 08:48:32 <Namworld>	I have one of those too, owned personally
Feb 05 08:48:52 <mjr__>	so anyway, that;s all open interest is, but i don't know how to calculate it in this case
Feb 05 08:49:00 <Namworld>	I might have too much stuff going on.
Feb 05 08:49:01 <mjr__>	it would be related in some way to the volume
Feb 05 08:49:27 <jurov>	mjr__ okay, is uspected that.  will discuss it with MP.
Feb 05 08:49:44 <ThickAsTh>	yeah, being "into" bitcoin definitely crowds your time too
Feb 05 08:50:26 <Namworld>	http://www.namworld.net/ is the url
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Feb 05 08:51:30 <EskimoBob_afk>	Diablo-D3: any good news from DMC?
Feb 05 08:51:42 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob_afk: who knows
Feb 05 08:51:59 <EskimoBob_afk>	what? You closed down?
Feb 05 08:52:06 <EskimoBob_afk>	When did that happen?
Feb 05 08:52:17 <Diablo-D3>	I did? wow. I wish someone would have told me.
Feb 05 08:52:36 <ThickAsTh>	@nam cool, i'll check it out
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Feb 05 08:52:37 <EskimoBob_afk>	Diablo-D3: you know what "?" is?
Feb 05 08:53:03 <Diablo-D3>	yes, x ? y : z
Feb 05 08:53:09 <Namworld>	If I can get Amazingrando to pay back, that would be good news for DMC.
Feb 05 08:53:11 <EskimoBob_afk>	your answer was "who knows" . Who else know, if not you
Feb 05 08:53:14 <Diablo-D3>	its short for if than else
Feb 05 08:53:19 <Namworld>	considering DMC's BTC-MINING holdings
Feb 05 08:54:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.72 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Feb 05 08:55:33 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: yes
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Feb 05 08:57:42 <EskimoBob_afk>	I forgot. Mining business... lol
Feb 05 08:58:14 <Namworld>	Lending was a bad idea. Even if Amazingrando is in the US.
Feb 05 08:58:17 <EskimoBob_afk>	people still go for that crap. amazing. Especially hose perpetual "turds"
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Feb 05 09:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4471 @ 0.00068141 = 3.0466 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00068126 = 6.2676 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:02:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00068068 = 6.1942 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:02:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.0006801 = 6.1746 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:03:30 <Namworld>	ok, well I'm off for real this time.
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Feb 05 09:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4865 @ 0.00068408 = 3.328 BTC [+]
Feb 05 09:10:22 <mjr__>	so, is the consensus generally positive on the release of more shares?
Feb 05 09:10:36 <maximian>	nope
Feb 05 09:10:36 <mjr__>	talking about S.DICE
Feb 05 09:10:40 <mjr__>	why is that?
Feb 05 09:11:09 <maximian>	lots of reasons
Feb 05 09:11:29 <mjr__>	If someone gives out 100% of profits...
Feb 05 09:11:29 <maximian>	for me, it's because I didn't like seeing my s.dice portfolio drop 40% in an instant
Feb 05 09:11:36 <mjr__>	how do they expand?
Feb 05 09:11:58 <mjr__>	you should be holding it for the ridiculous dividends
Feb 05 09:12:00 <maximian>	all he had to do was set the next at market price
Feb 05 09:12:08 <mjr__>	and then compete with everyone else
Feb 05 09:12:10 <maximian>	0.0073 or so
Feb 05 09:12:14 <mjr__>	his goal was to raise money
Feb 05 09:12:15 <maximian>	yeah
Feb 05 09:12:23 <mjr__>	that would be stupid for him
Feb 05 09:12:26 <maximian>	not at all
Feb 05 09:12:32 <maximian>	that's how MP does it with MPOE
Feb 05 09:12:35 <mjr__>	he wants to raise more cash so he can take more bets
Feb 05 09:12:45 <maximian>	it's not for bets
Feb 05 09:12:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1421 @ 0.0006801 = 0.9664 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:12:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.0006801 = 1.4139 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:12:49 <mjr__>	and he set the price higher than the last offering
Feb 05 09:12:52 <maximian>	it's for one of his shareholders
Feb 05 09:12:59 <maximian>	some secret shareholder
Feb 05 09:13:02 <maximian>	personal use
Feb 05 09:13:09 <mjr__>	with higher prices for each next round
Feb 05 09:13:18 <mjr__>	obviously the price will go back to prior levels
Feb 05 09:13:33 <maximian>	it's totally destabilized now
Feb 05 09:13:42 <mjr__>	but if you increase supply, but keep price the same...
Feb 05 09:13:46 <mjr__>	what would happen to price
Feb 05 09:13:49 <maximian>	1M shares were gobbled up by people who had the spare BTC, now they're being dumped
Feb 05 09:14:00 <mjr__>	ok
Feb 05 09:14:01 <maximian>	for instant profit
Feb 05 09:14:09 <mjr__>	that's fine
Feb 05 09:14:14 <maximian>	the new equilibrium will be in the 0.005 - 0.006 range
Feb 05 09:14:18 <mjr__>	as long as SDICE gets the capital it needs to expand
Feb 05 09:14:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.72 = 5.76 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:14:28 <mjr__>	they will release more dividends
Feb 05 09:14:35 <mjr__>	and the value will increase again
Feb 05 09:14:40 <maximian>	this isn't for expansion
Feb 05 09:14:59 <mjr__>	are you sure?
Feb 05 09:15:00 <maximian>	the sale was for one of the Satoshi Dice owners
Feb 05 09:15:02 <maximian>	yes
Feb 05 09:15:10 <maximian>	He said so earlier in this channel
Feb 05 09:15:19 <mjr__>	oh, similar to how a startup needs to do more offerings so that original investors can liquidate?
Feb 05 09:15:27 <maximian>	I suppose
Feb 05 09:15:33 <ThickAsTh>	For me it was exciting and frustrating,
Feb 05 09:15:33 <mjr__>	yeah, i'm not worried
Feb 05 09:16:00 <mjr__>	it's like people are saying sure the golden goose lays golden eggs...but it just won't suck my d*** too
Feb 05 09:16:08 <mjr__>	i hate it!
Feb 05 09:16:11 <mjr__>	lol
Feb 05 09:16:11 <maximian>	no
Feb 05 09:16:12 <ThickAsTh>	I spent half my current investment coins yesterday, at about .0072
Feb 05 09:16:16 <mjr__>	ah ok
Feb 05 09:16:34 <ThickAsTh>	so it sucks to know i missed by like 10 hours
Feb 05 09:16:36 <maximian>	I reinvested my considerable dividends back in at prices much higher than 0.0044
Feb 05 09:16:39 <mjr__>	that is true
Feb 05 09:16:47 <maximian>	I reinvested because I believe in the long term value
Feb 05 09:16:52 <mjr__>	yes so do i
Feb 05 09:16:55 <maximian>	that value was properly reflected in the share price
Feb 05 09:17:10 <maximian>	the share price was irrationally lowered on a whim by the *owner*
Feb 05 09:17:11 <mjr__>	i still think that the value is very low
Feb 05 09:17:16 <mjr__>	it wasn't irrational
Feb 05 09:17:18 <maximian>	yes, it's terribly low
Feb 05 09:17:29 <mjr__>	if you release that much at the current price, you still tank the stock
Feb 05 09:17:37 <pigeons>	it was irrational. even for his own self interest
Feb 05 09:17:39 <mjr__>	oh yeah demand is here, have a ton more supply
Feb 05 09:17:47 <mjr__>	price will stay the same
Feb 05 09:17:55 <mjr__>	how would that work?
Feb 05 09:18:04 <ThickAsTh>	and now I'm waiting to hear back from DeadTerra as to whether he was able to make the purchase for me at .0044
Feb 05 09:18:14 <ThickAsTh>	is there a way to look that up on MPEX?
Feb 05 09:18:19 <mjr__>	hmmm
Feb 05 09:18:31 <ThickAsTh>	(i'm not a mpex member, i am going thru passthroughs)
Feb 05 09:18:36 <mjr__>	yeah me too for now
Feb 05 09:18:45 <maximian>	You don't expect the owner to black swan his own stock
Feb 05 09:18:47 <mjr__>	through HAVELOCK?
Feb 05 09:18:54 <mjr__>	it's not a black swan
Feb 05 09:18:56 <mjr__>	first of all
Feb 05 09:18:57 <maximian>	even though it's within his rights
Feb 05 09:19:10 <mjr__>	it is trading well above both first and second offerings
Feb 05 09:19:14 <maximian>	the market was rational - nobody was going to dump 1M shares at 0.0044
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Feb 05 09:19:28 <mjr__>	he is releasing more shares....
Feb 05 09:19:35 <mjr__>	so if you didn't get in, it's not too late
Feb 05 09:19:40 <pigeons>	it seems like evorhees is saying we were undervaluing the risks
Feb 05 09:19:43 <ThickAsTh>	I have shares in all the passthrus I think, Havelock was easy to unload last night, there was no action, so I sold all my shares there at over .70 on open bids
Feb 05 09:19:51 <maximian>	yes, and he should have done it the was MP does it - buy offering them at a small % higher than the market price
Feb 05 09:19:55 <ThickAsTh>	it's still riding high this morning too at Havelock
Feb 05 09:20:14 <vampireb>	is he selling them below the market?
Feb 05 09:20:17 <mjr__>	dollar cost averaging
Feb 05 09:20:36 <mjr__>	i bought what i thought was a good deal at 7
Feb 05 09:20:40 <mjr__>	horrible deal at 4?
Feb 05 09:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00689996 = 10.3499 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:21:03 <mjr__>	or heck yeah, i get to double my position for less
Feb 05 09:21:26 <mjr__>	i guess everyone is looking at sdice like a growth stock
Feb 05 09:21:31 <mjr__>	while i would buy and hold it just for the yield
Feb 05 09:21:34 <pigeons>	the person in the best position to know has signaled in the only way that matters, with his cash, that the price was too high
Feb 05 09:21:37 <maximian>	It's a huge growth stock
Feb 05 09:21:49 <mjr__>	yes it can be
Feb 05 09:22:03 <mjr__>	but i would not look for return by appreciation, to me that is the bonus
Feb 05 09:22:06 <maximian>	It could be worth 10s of millions. 1.2M BTC in handle just last month is *astonishing*
Feb 05 09:22:15 <mjr__>	of course, it's amazinhg
Feb 05 09:22:20 <mjr__>	but the yield is ridiculous
Feb 05 09:22:22 <ThickAsTh>	it just hurts this first time, because it was so abrupt
Feb 05 09:22:27 <mjr__>	true
Feb 05 09:22:31 <maximian>	for a small gambling concern that's restricted to just bitcoiners
Feb 05 09:22:32 <mjr__>	adjustments are tough
Feb 05 09:22:38 <ThickAsTh>	now I know that the shares need to stay at values that are more liquid
Feb 05 09:22:52 <mjr__>	yes, there was too big a spread
Feb 05 09:23:01 <ThickAsTh>	and holding shares at the end of the month becomes much more valuable than at the beginning
Feb 05 09:23:07 <mjr__>	and i honestly think he wants to give peple more opportunity to get it
Feb 05 09:23:16 <mjr__>	lol that is the way its supposed to be
Feb 05 09:23:21 <maximian>	the problem is, he has other owners now
Feb 05 09:23:25 <mjr__>	last  dividend day the stock didn't move
Feb 05 09:23:25 <maximian>	so he has to consider what we want too
Feb 05 09:23:33 <mjr__>	non voting shares
Feb 05 09:23:35 <maximian>	and I don't care about giving other people the opportunity to get in
Feb 05 09:23:41 <mjr__>	you vote by buying and selling
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Feb 05 09:24:42 <ThickAsTh>	what do you think the value will be set at for the next 4million shares he's releasing?
Feb 05 09:24:46 <maximian>	Anyway, Eric heard our bitching last night. He says he understands and that he didn't think it all through.
Feb 05 09:24:55 <ThickAsTh>	good to hear
Feb 05 09:25:04 <maximian>	So the next tranches will be priced a lot higher
Feb 05 09:25:15 <mjr__>	i was thinking that he will progressively price them higher
Feb 05 09:25:17 <pigeons>	unless he really needs the money right then
Feb 05 09:25:22 <mjr__>	and hopefully he can walk the price back up
Feb 05 09:25:26 <ThickAsTh>	it was so close to being an awesome move, but was definitely awkward to say the least
Feb 05 09:25:37 <mjr__>	yes, i mean this was 1.5 traunches
Feb 05 09:25:42 <mjr__>	sorry: 1/5
Feb 05 09:25:46 <ThickAsTh>	yeah
Feb 05 09:26:04 <ThickAsTh>	so he'll probably due a .005 increase for each one
Feb 05 09:26:09 <ThickAsTh>	sry
Feb 05 09:26:12 <ThickAsTh>	.0005
Feb 05 09:26:22 <pigeons>	that would be if he thinks about it
Feb 05 09:26:26 <ThickAsTh>	hehe
Feb 05 09:26:47 <mjr__>	so i think to increase the float by 50% you need to expect a certain amount of volatility but it will be good in the long run
Feb 05 09:26:58 <mjr__>	i think peple who are bullish on SDICE will be happy
Feb 05 09:27:01 <ThickAsTh>	yeah
Feb 05 09:27:04 <mjr__>	because this is a good long term move
Feb 05 09:27:06 <mjr__>	i think
Feb 05 09:27:06 <maximian>	I am bullish for sure
Feb 05 09:27:12 <maximian>	And it did need more liquidity
Feb 05 09:27:22 <mjr__>	i mean for sure growing pains
Feb 05 09:27:35 <mjr__>	and maybe i came across as defensive, but i was on reddit and people were all BREACH OF CONTRACT
Feb 05 09:27:47 <mjr__>	when they wouldn't know how to read a financial document if it was written in crayon
Feb 05 09:27:52 <maximian>	but it could have been done more slowly! I like smooth transitions.
Feb 05 09:28:00 <mjr__>	i suppose that is true
Feb 05 09:28:17 <mjr__>	he could have sent a letter to the shareholders with his future plans
Feb 05 09:28:27 <maximian>	The breach of contract thing was because the relevant clause was a little ambiguous. We had a debated about it here several hours ago. MP cleared it up: no breach.
Feb 05 09:29:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.6 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:29:25 <mjr__>	i know
Feb 05 09:29:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5001 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:29:37 <mjr__>	but i mean there are so many scammers around that i guess people are nervous
Feb 05 09:29:39 <maximian>	It's still a great deal… but now there's a bit of a trust issue that might keep the price down for a while.
Feb 05 09:29:45 <mjr__>	but i think that mp and ev are the good guys
Feb 05 09:29:50 <mjr__>	i hope so
Feb 05 09:29:53 <mjr__>	i want to get in :)
Feb 05 09:30:02 <jurov>	i vote for "lawful evil" :D
Feb 05 09:30:03 <mjr__>	i have a 1 year mentality with this stock
Feb 05 09:30:17 <mjr__>	so i can't wait to see where it's at in 2013
Feb 05 09:30:21 <mjr__>	i meant 2014
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Feb 05 09:31:27 <ThickAsTh>	the stock price will be fine too, these shares have one of the best dividends out there, people will keep snatching them up
Feb 05 09:31:38 <maximian>	The dividends are awesome, no doubt
Feb 05 09:31:38 <mjr__>	people would kill for these returns
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Feb 05 09:31:47 <mjr__>	or make a billion dollars a year in a hedge  fund
Feb 05 09:32:01 <ThickAsTh>	Are there other stocks that pay this well?
Feb 05 09:32:06 <mjr__>	not that i know of
Feb 05 09:32:11 <mjr__>	mpoe is good
Feb 05 09:32:15 <mjr__>	and i like btc-bond
Feb 05 09:32:17 <ThickAsTh>	but riskier right?
Feb 05 09:32:23 <pigeons>	less risky
Feb 05 09:32:24 <mjr__>	since it is not quite as risky
Feb 05 09:32:29 <ThickAsTh>	ah
Feb 05 09:32:32 <mjr__>	ie. debt vs equity
Feb 05 09:32:49 <ThickAsTh>	last div was what 10% or so?
Feb 05 09:33:19 <ThickAsTh>	which i read was higher than it would normally be
Feb 05 09:33:29 <ThickAsTh>	i was tryiong to follow along but dont knwo much about the stock
Feb 05 09:33:43 <pigeons>	price has been about 4% monthly yield
Feb 05 09:34:05 <pigeons>	but profits can change big quickly
Feb 05 09:34:32 <pigeons>	one month satoshidice lost money and paid no dividends, and the losses came out of next months dividends profits
Feb 05 09:35:13 <ThickAsTh>	Do you know anything about this JAH stock on Bitfunder?
Feb 05 09:35:20 <ThickAsTh>	it has pretty high returns
Feb 05 09:35:22 <pigeons>	mining stuff
Feb 05 09:35:40 <ThickAsTh>	so any week now the valeu will drop off for it
Feb 05 09:35:49 <pigeons>	seems likely
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Feb 05 09:37:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:38:31 <jurov>	better to buy anti-mining stuff like iDiffs ;)
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Feb 05 09:42:59 <mjr__>	btw...you can make good money market making sdice
Feb 05 09:43:09 <mjr__>	i believe the spread is over 30%
Feb 05 09:43:41 <mjr__>	32.69% to be exact
Feb 05 09:44:13 <jurov>	i'm really not sure, the price is all but stable. so you need big reserve both on s.dice and btc side to dip into
Feb 05 09:44:26 <mjr__>	does anyone know the timeframe for the remaining 4 traunches though?
Feb 05 09:44:27 <jurov>	better just go long and receive divs
Feb 05 09:44:39 <mjr__>	you can do both...but i agree
Feb 05 09:45:11 <mjr__>	what i meant is you can hopefully just buy and sell, higher than rebuy again lower
Feb 05 09:45:32 <pigeons>	so put your market making bids in, watch them get filled while your asks sit, then watch another traunch get put up below your bid
Feb 05 09:45:39 <kakobrekla>	>	On Tue, 05 Feb 13 06:25:53 +0000 S.DICE - 1`000 bought @0.00420000 BTC,
Feb 05 09:45:40 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 05 09:45:44 <mjr__>	with the ultimate goal of increasing your position, but also creating liquidity
Feb 05 09:45:50 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: that was me
Feb 05 09:45:52 <jurov>	and i think the plan is not known... evoorhees seems to like to suddenly sneak in the middle of night
Feb 05 09:45:56 <kakobrekla>	pigeons??
Feb 05 09:45:58 <mjr__>	hehehe
Feb 05 09:46:02 <mjr__>	makes it exciting
Feb 05 09:46:15 <kakobrekla>	you sold me at 0042?
Feb 05 09:46:23 <pigeons>	no i bought
Feb 05 09:46:31 <mjr__>	also...the point of market making is...i will always have the current bid and current ask
Feb 05 09:46:32 <kakobrekla>	cause i bought too at that.
Feb 05 09:46:44 <kakobrekla>	i pasted my filled bid.
Feb 05 09:46:45 <pigeons>	oh sorry
Feb 05 09:46:47 <pigeons>	that was you
Feb 05 09:46:48 <kakobrekla>	np :)
Feb 05 09:46:49 <pigeons>	this was me
Feb 05 09:46:51 <pigeons>	On Tue, 05 Feb 13 06:25:53 +0000 S.DICE - 1`000 bought @0.00420001 BTC
Feb 05 09:46:51 <mjr__>	i can go one in front of either side
Feb 05 09:46:55 <kakobrekla>	haha
Feb 05 09:47:02 *	kakobrekla high fives pigeons
Feb 05 09:47:06 <pigeons>	:)
Feb 05 09:47:16 <awkorama_>	mjr__: hi, please respond to my query
Feb 05 09:47:52 <jurov>	mjr__ that's crystal clear to me. just that this market often likes to keep going to one side till the bot exhausts it allotment
Feb 05 09:49:28 <maximian>	a market maker would be great
Feb 05 09:49:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.0006801 = 5.0327 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:49:39 <mjr__>	jurov: good point
Feb 05 09:49:52 <maximian>	but you'd need pretty deep pockets and a lot of guts
Feb 05 09:50:14 <mjr__>	also...to the people who felt that they lost value...were you planning on selling, or even more specifically did you have sell orders on the books?
Feb 05 09:51:02 <pigeons>	i had buy orders on the books, higher than what erik put the shares up at
Feb 05 09:51:11 <ThickAsTh>	You can make the markets on the passthrus pretty easily
Feb 05 09:51:43 <pigeons>	so i did lose money there
Feb 05 09:51:56 <mjr__>	yes true
Feb 05 09:52:02 <ThickAsTh>	I laid out a fat chunk yesterday at .0072 :/
Feb 05 09:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0052 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:52:24 <mjr__>	my only point was that if you were bearish on the stock and trying to get out of the horrible position of making upwards of 30% dividends, then yes you lost
Feb 05 09:52:33 <ThickAsTh>	but I have another fat chunk to spend today
Feb 05 09:52:38 <mjr__>	if you actually like the stock and want to keep what you have and get more, this is great news
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Feb 05 09:52:59 <ThickAsTh>	but what was the right play last night,
Feb 05 09:53:12 <mjr__>	since i believe that most people like this stock, i think they should view the opportunity to get more for less as a good thing
Feb 05 09:53:20 <ThickAsTh>	on a passthru,
Feb 05 09:53:41 <ThickAsTh>	1. Liquidate your passthru shares down to about .6 and try to buy in at lower
Feb 05 09:53:58 <ThickAsTh>	2. Hold shares and buy only with liquid BTC you have
Feb 05 09:54:05 <ThickAsTh>	Bullish
Feb 05 09:54:13 <topace_>	so what  was with the lowball ask order last night?
Feb 05 09:54:19 <topace_>	i wish i wasnt asleep at the time
Feb 05 09:54:23 <ThickAsTh>	.0044
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Feb 05 09:54:31 <ThickAsTh>	a million shares
Feb 05 09:54:34 <pigeons>	topace_: evorhees sold more shares
Feb 05 09:55:00 <topace_>	of his 90%? so now, like 11% are on the market? and 89% are "private" ?
Feb 05 09:55:10 <ThickAsTh>	pretty much
Feb 05 09:55:23 <ThickAsTh>	and h plans to release 4 more rounds of 1m
Feb 05 09:55:25 <pigeons>	topace_: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1504386#msg1504386
Feb 05 09:55:26 <ThickAsTh>	he*
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Feb 05 09:59:16 <mjr__>	public float increases to 15%
Feb 05 09:59:27 <mjr__>	has anyone seen coins for pizza?
Feb 05 09:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10521 @ 0.0006801 = 7.1553 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1429 @ 0.00068007 = 0.9718 BTC [-]
Feb 05 09:59:49 <mjr__>	i think that was a huge win for this community
Feb 05 10:00:24 <pigeons>	good, bad, or indifferent, "huge win for this community" is fanboi
Feb 05 10:00:53 <ThickAsTh>	You see the Amazon Coins thing?
Feb 05 10:00:59 <topace_>	with no warning whatsoever, that was lame
Feb 05 10:01:10 <topace_>	"im releasing shares, first million up.. NOW! GO!"
Feb 05 10:01:15 <awkorama_>	I have seen it, did anyone try it ?
Feb 05 10:01:16 <topace_>	thats not how you run a business
Feb 05 10:01:27 <pigeons>	topace_: we let evorhees know that last night, he says he will try to price more appropriately in the future
Feb 05 10:01:40 <topace_>	and no indication when the NEXT ones will come out?
Feb 05 10:01:43 <topace_>	just "in the future"
Feb 05 10:01:47 <pigeons>	within days
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Feb 05 10:03:32 <pigeons>	so that should keep people from buying too high cause who knows what he will price the next ones at
Feb 05 10:05:28 <ThickAsTh>	pretty much
Feb 05 10:08:50 <ThickAsTh>	now that we've been through it, I kinda don't want the next 4 tranches to be more than .0044
Feb 05 10:10:19 <mjr__>	yes, i want to get in as big as possible
Feb 05 10:10:35 <topace_>	at what time was it listed on mpex last night?
Feb 05 10:11:06 <ThickAsTh>	like 11pm EST, maybe a little later?
Feb 05 10:11:44 <pigeons>	round then
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Feb 05 10:17:38 <topace_>	yea, just when i went to bed
Feb 05 10:17:39 <topace_>	bastard :p
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Feb 05 10:19:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7471 @ 0.00068007 = 5.0808 BTC [-]
Feb 05 10:19:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5929 @ 0.00068 = 4.0317 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 10:20:09 <kakobrekla>	let the drama continiue.
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Feb 05 10:20:58 <jurov>	yeah... everyone cashing out of s.mpoe to be ready
Feb 05 10:21:09 <aiball>	so, did that huge wall at 44 get bought, or cancelled?
Feb 05 10:21:18 <jurov>	it got bought. in 2 hrs or so
Feb 05 10:22:01 <aiball>	wow
Feb 05 10:22:05 <ThickAsTh>	I'm going on the record to say that everyone overreacted last night
Feb 05 10:22:44 <ThickAsTh>	the stock devaluation is as temporary as the shareholders choose for it to be
Feb 05 10:23:34 <topace_>	yea but it also puts an artificial ceiling on the price, until the 5 million are all released
Feb 05 10:23:56 <topace_>	because nobody will buy at "what used to be the market rate: ~0.0070" knowing he's going to be releasing more "well below"
Feb 05 10:24:09 <pigeons>	yep
Feb 05 10:25:06 <topace_>	its temporary, sure, but it'll be at least a few weeks before we get back to 0.70.. even if he does one a day for the next 4 days... that'll severly deplete peoples buying power (or the amount they're willing to dump into this)
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Feb 05 10:25:48 <pigeons>	and make you wonder that if evoorhees is willing to sell at that price, maybe that is closer to an accurate pricing of the risks
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Feb 05 10:26:18 <StarenseN>	[09:31] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 210000 @ 0.0044 = 924 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:18 <StarenseN>	[09:31] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 227272 @ 0.0044 = 999.9968 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:18 <StarenseN>	[09:37] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 92512 @ 0.0044 = 407.0528 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:18 <StarenseN>	[09:37] <@assbot> [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.5321 = 6.3852 BTC [-]
Feb 05 10:26:18 <StarenseN>	[09:44] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 92512 @ 0.0044 = 407.0528 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:19 <StarenseN>	[09:45] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 20 @ 0.0044 = 0.088 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:19 <StarenseN>	[09:46] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 227272 @ 0.0044 = 999.9968 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:20 <StarenseN>	[09:46] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0044 = 0.0132 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:20 <StarenseN>	[09:47] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2721 @ 0.00069971 = 1.9039 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:21 <StarenseN>	[09:47] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2180 @ 0.00069999 = 1.526 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:21 <StarenseN>	[09:47] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5449 @ 0.0007 = 3.8143 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:22 <StarenseN>	[09:48] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 16831 @ 0.0044 = 74.0564 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:22 <StarenseN>	[09:50] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0044 = 0.88 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:23 <StarenseN>	[09:52] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 17179 @ 0.0044 = 75.5876 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:26:35 <pigeons>	StarenseN: apologise
Feb 05 10:27:10 <StarenseN>	around 800K in 20 min when mircea_popescu woke up and proceed the deposit :)
Feb 05 10:27:32 <mjr__>	wow lol
Feb 05 10:27:51 <jurov>	it pays off to keep irc bouncer
Feb 05 10:28:25 <jurov>	i woke up, started reading up and it made my day
Feb 05 10:29:05 <StarenseN>	indeed
Feb 05 10:29:20 <StarenseN>	be part of the buyers made mine ^^
Feb 05 10:31:21 <pigeons>	jurov: can you do a quick for dummies on CoinBr.MPBPT-E? 0.1005 implies 5% MPBOR? Do we need to know what you bid at to know what number to expect?
Feb 05 10:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2685 @ 0.00068408 = 1.8368 BTC [+]
Feb 05 10:32:32 <jurov>	pigeons, 0.1005 is just a current price. you buy at that price, I will invest 0.1 into MPOE bond.
Feb 05 10:32:45 <jurov>	whatever the price is
Feb 05 10:33:18 <jurov>	now, when mpoe liquidates, i'll pay exactly 0.1*MPBOR (or less if there was some loss)
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Feb 05 10:33:50 <jurov>	so if you got 0.1005 in the end of the month, that would mean that MPOE net profit was only 0.5%
Feb 05 10:35:16 <pigeons>	thanks, tough for me to follow sometimes
Feb 05 10:35:25 <jurov>	if MPOE makes 5% , each share liquidates on 0.105 . if it loses 10%, each share gets 0.09 only
Feb 05 10:35:44 <pigeons>	ah
Feb 05 10:36:14 <jurov>	and that's also reason why doing "normal" assets that will continously run through and just pay divs is difficult
Feb 05 10:36:33 <jurov>	we'd have to ask negative dividends if mpoe loses :D
Feb 05 10:36:49 <jurov>	better liquidate it every month
Feb 05 10:36:54 <pigeons>	gotcha
Feb 05 10:37:30 <pigeons>	need a demmurage feature ;)
Feb 05 10:38:11 <jurov>	yes there were some inquiries, but nobody could figure out what to insure it with. ur welcome
Feb 05 10:39:58 <mjr__>	i need to do a local bitcoin for cash today
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Feb 05 10:47:40 <jurov>	lol 8k arrived to mpex in past few hours...prepare for wild ride
Feb 05 10:47:56 <jurov>	http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
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Feb 05 10:50:44 <ThickAsTh>	just got the good news from my man DeadTerra, he was able to snag some shares for me last night :D
Feb 05 10:52:04 <EskimoBob_afk>	lol, augustocroppo is now mad at usagi :)
Feb 05 10:52:40 <EskimoBob_afk>	fkn drama queens
Feb 05 10:53:30 <vampireb_>	where?
Feb 05 10:53:40 <vampireb_>	couldnt wait for that one
Feb 05 10:54:18 <vampireb_>	ic in your thread
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Feb 05 10:57:58 <EskimoBob_afk>	vampireb_: and over what! :) LOL
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Feb 05 11:05:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+]
Feb 05 11:11:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10251 @ 0.00068589 = 7.0311 BTC [+]
Feb 05 11:13:56 <Bugpowder>	reddit really is where the idiots of the internet hang out
Feb 05 11:15:04 <EskimoBob_afk>	Bugpowder: got that right
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Feb 05 11:17:20 <aiball>	juror - do you have one of those blockchain.info urls for sdice 50% I tried to replace the address but not getting a chart
Feb 05 11:17:30 <aiball>	jurov
Feb 05 11:17:38 <Bugpowder>	at least the 4chan people don't take themselves seriously
Feb 05 11:18:04 <jurov>	aiball, search for the address normally
Feb 05 11:18:16 <jurov>	and then click the icon next to Balance to get graph
Feb 05 11:19:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069967 = 3.0233 BTC [+]
Feb 05 11:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10702 @ 0.00069999 = 7.4913 BTC [+]
Feb 05 11:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00689996 = 1.38 BTC [+]
Feb 05 11:22:29 <Bugpowder>	lol
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Feb 05 11:29:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069981 = 3.0239 BTC [-]
Feb 05 11:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9298 @ 0.00069999 = 6.5085 BTC [+]
Feb 05 11:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 581 @ 0.00069999 = 0.4067 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 11:35:40 <evoorhees>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1505462#msg1505462
Feb 05 11:36:26 <Bugpowder>	moar shares please
Feb 05 11:36:48 <Bugpowder>	.0055
Feb 05 11:36:50 <Bugpowder>	uh oh
Feb 05 11:36:59 <evoorhees>	is that good or bad?
Feb 05 11:37:17 <Bugpowder>	it will never sell
Feb 05 11:37:22 <Bugpowder>	it should be like .0034 :)
Feb 05 11:37:25 <evoorhees>	lol
Feb 05 11:37:30 <evoorhees>	man I can't win
Feb 05 11:37:34 <Bugpowder>	or .0046
Feb 05 11:37:36 <Bugpowder>	:)
Feb 05 11:37:51 <evoorhees>	well look... smart investors should want me to sell it as low as possible
Feb 05 11:37:58 <Bugpowder>	no shit
Feb 05 11:37:59 <evoorhees>	so you bugpowder are being very rational, thank you
Feb 05 11:38:54 <Bugpowder>	i wish i didn't sleep through the last batch
Feb 05 11:39:36 <jurov>	and i wish i'll be able to sleep tonight... it will be 4am here
Feb 05 11:40:05 <Bugpowder>	just place a bid up
Feb 05 11:40:05 <jurov>	;;calc 1e6*.0055
Feb 05 11:40:06 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Feb 05 11:40:11 <jurov>	;;calc 1e6*0.0055
Feb 05 11:40:12 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Feb 05 11:40:15 <jurov>	;;calc 1e6 * 0.0055
Feb 05 11:40:15 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Feb 05 11:40:15 <Bugpowder>	5500
Feb 05 11:40:28 <jurov>	and 8000 already deposited on mpex lol
Feb 05 11:40:35 <Bugpowder>	god damn it
Feb 05 11:41:05 <EskimoBob_afk>	evoorhees: smart investors are probably getting ready ready to run. It's never good news, when largest stockholders starts dumping share like you did
Feb 05 11:41:20 <evoorhees>	lol dumping?
Feb 05 11:41:20 <Bugpowder>	all five are going to go quickly
Feb 05 11:41:38 <EskimoBob_afk>	evoorhees: why do you sell?
Feb 05 11:41:58 <evoorhees>	one min
Feb 05 11:42:20 <Bugpowder>	EskimoBob_afk: why did you do a second offering of ART?
Feb 05 11:42:24 <EskimoBob_afk>	6-11 year profit in a bank is not enough? Or do you feel generous for some off reason?
Feb 05 11:42:47 <EskimoBob_afk>	Bugpowder: to buy more equipment for the ART, not to dump shares I hold
Feb 05 11:42:56 <EskimoBob_afk>	do you see the difference?
Feb 05 11:43:17 <EskimoBob_afk>	shares evoorhees is dumping will not add any value to sdice
Feb 05 11:43:42 <EskimoBob_afk>	he is cashing out his shares :)
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Feb 05 11:45:27 <Bugpowder>	yep
Feb 05 11:45:36 <EskimoBob_afk>	I  do not give flying fuck what this pompous gypsy fuck and his retarded pr-girl thinks or writes, he is the shit peddler
Feb 05 11:45:57 <EskimoBob_afk>	so he scrams "FREE MONEY"! here
Feb 05 11:46:12 <EskimoBob_afk>	free money is "paper with no value"
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Feb 05 11:46:19 <EskimoBob_afk>	screams*
Feb 05 11:47:23 <evoorhees>	back, sorry
Feb 05 11:47:41 <evoorhees>	eskimo - releasing 5% of the shares on mpex is hardly "dumping"
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Feb 05 11:48:11 <evoorhees>	further, as I've mentioned, there are a few private holders. Don't assume that this 5% is from me.
Feb 05 11:48:23 <EskimoBob_afk>	and those fkn whales, who show'd up so conveniently.. damn. I really hope I am wrong and this shit wont blow up in our faces like Trendons scam did
Feb 05 11:48:34 <thestringpuller>	evoorhees: i sent you pm if you have time
Feb 05 11:48:54 <evoorhees>	eskimo - the volume is not based on those wales alone
Feb 05 11:49:01 <jurov>	evoorhees: no need to argue with him... for him we re all just MP's sockpuppets anyway
Feb 05 11:49:18 <evoorhees>	the base volume is increasingly substantially, and the whales seem to come out for a week or two each month
Feb 05 11:49:18 <EskimoBob_afk>	jurov: am I wrong?
Feb 05 11:49:31 <evoorhees>	I don't mind explaining my actions to him
Feb 05 11:49:42 <evoorhees>	and if he's an owner, then I owe it to him
Feb 05 11:50:18 <evoorhees>	And there is a big difference between me and Trendon. One business was opaque, the other transparent.
Feb 05 11:50:27 <evoorhees>	nobody knew how he was making "profits"
Feb 05 11:50:36 <evoorhees>	and yet they bought anyway
Feb 05 11:50:47 <evoorhees>	SD is a gambling site, it earns 1.9%, easy
Feb 05 11:51:40 <EskimoBob_afk>	evoorhees: do not take it personally, but it really looks like a "pump and dump" where pumping is done not on scumbag mircea_popescu's bazaar, but via sdice "huge bets"
Feb 05 11:51:45 <EskimoBob_afk>	I hope I am wrong
Feb 05 11:51:51 <evoorhees>	you're wrong
Feb 05 11:51:57 <EskimoBob_afk>	OK, if you say so
Feb 05 11:51:59 <evoorhees>	but it's good to be skeptical
Feb 05 11:52:42 <EskimoBob_afk>	indeed :)
Feb 05 11:52:55 <evoorhees>	If everyone in the bitcoin community was as skeptical as you, it'd be a healthier community
Feb 05 11:53:37 <PsychoticBoy>	sure and probably no MPex then ;)
Feb 05 11:53:56 <EskimoBob_afk>	evoorhees: dude, you just made all the mupets scream in anger
Feb 05 11:53:59 <EskimoBob_afk>	LOL
Feb 05 11:54:07 <evoorhees>	and honestly, the whales do look suspicious... or at least I thought so until I went to Macau and saw people playing baccarat for 36 hrs straight with $50,000 chips
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Feb 05 11:57:15 <StarenseN>	evoorhees quick question, are you belgian ? Any chance to see you back in belgium to promote bitcoin or ?
Feb 05 11:57:36 <evoorhees>	the name is dutch
Feb 05 11:57:40 <evoorhees>	but I've never been there
Feb 05 11:57:47 <StarenseN>	you're american ?
Feb 05 11:57:49 <evoorhees>	only been to london, paris, and vienna in europe
Feb 05 11:57:51 <evoorhees>	yeah
Feb 05 11:57:56 <evoorhees>	unfortunately
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Feb 05 11:58:10 <StarenseN>	alright, belgium has a dutch part as well so that's why i asked myself
Feb 05 11:58:28 <jurov>	evoorhees, i can't imagine such people patiently bearing with bitcoin-qt.. or do they just use online wallet?
Feb 05 11:58:38 <jurov>	these whales
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Feb 05 11:59:36 <imsaguy>	maybe those whales don't even exist.
Feb 05 12:00:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0056 = 0.056 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 12:02:19 <DeaDTerra>	Two walls are now up for GSDPT, one on bitfunder https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.SDICE and one on BTCT https://btct.co/security/GSDPT If you want S.DICE shares look no further :)
Feb 05 12:03:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3380 @ 0.0056 = 18.928 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:04:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2509 @ 0.0056 = 14.0504 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:07:04 <StarenseN>	evoorhees are the 3 other batchs for this week as well ?
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Feb 05 12:10:05 <pigeons>	star trek IV was the one with the whales
Feb 05 12:11:10 <ThickAsTh>	Thanks again DeaDTerra
Feb 05 12:11:28 <ThickAsTh>	the .0001 markup on the passthroughs works nicely
Feb 05 12:11:35 <StarenseN>	[17:41] <EskimoBob_afk> evoorhees: why do you sell?
Feb 05 12:11:40 <StarenseN>	did you answer?
Feb 05 12:11:54 <evoorhees>	yeah
Feb 05 12:12:00 <evoorhees>	"don't assume it was my shares"
Feb 05 12:12:49 <DeaDTerra>	No problems, sorry about the markup. I just want some margin to move on.
Feb 05 12:13:00 <DeaDTerra>	in case I have to outbid people for the shares
Feb 05 12:13:09 <ThickAsTh>	I cant blame you at all, its a modest markup surely
Feb 05 12:13:35 <evoorhees>	Actually... consider that another private owner may have sold me more than 5%, and thus I actually increased my position
Feb 05 12:14:02 <StarenseN>	haha
Feb 05 12:14:27 <StarenseN>	at a good price so
Feb 05 12:14:32 <ThickAsTh>	While I'm sure we could come up with a number of reasons, I'm betting Bob wants the exact one
Feb 05 12:16:10 <pigeons>	evoorhees: so you and several partners own the unreleased S.DICE shares? And you and the other owners can sell your interest because you're selling it to the public via shares? Is that what makes it different from rapeghost selling his interest in S.BVPS?
Feb 05 12:16:41 <evoorhees>	I don't know the rapeghost case
Feb 05 12:16:47 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: or did rapeghost have different ownership change provisions in its contract with mpex than satoshi dice has
Feb 05 12:17:07 <evoorhees>	but yes me and several others own the (now 89%) of S.DICE that is not on MPEX
Feb 05 12:17:36 <ThickAsTh>	I thought it was on MPEX ;)
Feb 05 12:17:58 <jcpham>	i see the difference
Feb 05 12:18:02 <DeaDTerra>	Technically it's on mpex but not publically
Feb 05 12:18:06 <jcpham>	bitvps was 100% public
Feb 05 12:18:08 <jcpham>	iirc
Feb 05 12:18:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
Feb 05 12:18:28 <jcpham>	where is the original bitvps contract
Feb 05 12:18:41 <evoorhees>	yes to be technically accurate, I have 39m shares of s.dice on mpex (these became available a few days ago, which was 30 days after the final sale of the ipo shares)
Feb 05 12:18:42 <pigeons>	oh i didnt know that. ithought all mpex stocks were non voting shares enforced by keeping 51% of the shares private
Feb 05 12:18:43 <DeaDTerra>	but as it's held privately Erik doesn't have to pay all the profit on MPEX. Instead he pays it directly to himself and the private investors and the rest to the public on MPEX
Feb 05 12:19:02 <evoorhees>	so 50m shares are just "theoretical" and 50m shares are on MPEX
Feb 05 12:19:12 <evoorhees>	correct deadterra
Feb 05 12:19:16 <jcpham>	yay for fun maths!
Feb 05 12:19:38 <evoorhees>	pigeons - yes that's true
Feb 05 12:19:43 <evoorhees>	I can't sell 50% on mpex
Feb 05 12:19:49 <evoorhees>	only 49.999% or whatever
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Feb 05 12:20:09 <pigeons>	jcpham: (c) The Directors warrant that no further shares will be offered by them for a period of 30 days from the date these offered shares are sold. The Directors further warrant that they will never sell more than half the total shares.
Feb 05 12:20:16 <pigeons>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BVPS
Feb 05 12:20:39 <jcpham>	looks like the directors fucked up
Feb 05 12:20:42 <jcpham>	iana though
Feb 05 12:20:50 <evoorhees>	jcpham how?
Feb 05 12:21:07 <pigeons>	evoorhees: rapeghost sold more than half the shares
Feb 05 12:21:15 <evoorhees>	oh thought you were talking about s.dice
Feb 05 12:21:22 <jcpham>	no evoorhees
Feb 05 12:21:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0056 = 28 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:21:29 <jcpham>	what pigeons said
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Feb 05 12:21:59 <jcpham>	the previous owner of bitvps entered into a contract and then broke it
Feb 05 12:22:02 <jcpham>	iana though
Feb 05 12:22:13 <evoorhees>	was that on glbse?
Feb 05 12:22:21 <jcpham>	mpex
Feb 05 12:22:32 <imsaguy>	he wasn't allowed to sell
Feb 05 12:22:33 <imsaguy>	and then did
Feb 05 12:22:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0055 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:22:44 <jcpham>	that's how it reads to me
Feb 05 12:22:51 <imsaguy>	all without even consulting the other major owner
Feb 05 12:22:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 775 @ 0.0056 = 4.34 BTC [+]
Feb 05 12:23:00 <imsaguy>	so technically, one could argue the sale wasn't legal
Feb 05 12:23:05 <jurov>	rg did not sold it
Feb 05 12:23:07 <jcpham>	that's backstory but... yeah
Feb 05 12:23:12 <imsaguy>	he didn't have enough votes.
Feb 05 12:23:18 <jurov>	rg just left everything to new owhers for free
Feb 05 12:23:24 <jurov>	including his own gpg key
Feb 05 12:23:32 <jcpham>	^
Feb 05 12:23:38 <imsaguy>	he isn't allowed to do that either.
Feb 05 12:23:44 <imsaguy>	selling for 0 consideration is still 0.
Feb 05 12:23:47 <imsaguy>	err, selling
Feb 05 12:23:51 <pigeons>	hnope
Feb 05 12:24:01 <imsaguy>	he didn't just give.
Feb 05 12:24:15 <imsaguy>	pigeons: technically, nothing in bitcoin is sold unless there is $1.
Feb 05 12:24:17 <pigeons>	well, good enough for me
Feb 05 12:24:17 <imsaguy>	but there isn't.
Feb 05 12:24:39 <evoorhees>	imsaguy what do you mean?
Feb 05 12:24:44 <jurov>	cause he wanted hard to be employed, have the career and be able to fire people instead of boring task of running bitvps :DDD
Feb 05 12:24:49 <pigeons>	no consideration can be more than currency/dollars
Feb 05 12:25:06 <imsaguy>	evoorhees, its just barter unless there's dollars.
Feb 05 12:25:27 <pigeons>	but at any rate, everyone acknowledges th ownership transfer and its working out well for everyone except the investors (that leaves customers and new owners)
Feb 05 12:25:35 <jcpham>	it seems to me that similar to what dell has just done
Feb 05 12:25:40 <jcpham>	bitvps would need to do the same
Feb 05 12:25:44 <imsaguy>	aye
Feb 05 12:25:46 <pigeons>	no barter is contractual sale
Feb 05 12:25:48 <jcpham>	buyout, go private
Feb 05 12:26:01 <imsaguy>	the old shareholders would need to be bought out.
Feb 05 12:26:04 <jcpham>	to meet the mpex contract, that is
Feb 05 12:26:07 <imsaguy>	and you can't jus force them to sell
Feb 05 12:26:10 <imsaguy>	unless its in the contract
Feb 05 12:26:18 <jcpham>	and it isn't
Feb 05 12:26:29 <pigeons>	hey, who expected half as much from rg anyway
Feb 05 12:26:35 *	jcpham claps
Feb 05 12:26:53 <pigeons>	no offense at all rg
Feb 05 12:27:02 <imsaguy>	offense intended rg
Feb 05 12:27:15 <jcpham>	the gpg key thing is not excusable
Feb 05 12:27:19 <jcpham>	i can't trust him
Feb 05 12:27:29 <pigeons>	cant trust his old key
Feb 05 12:27:33 <imsaguy>	aye
Feb 05 12:27:36 <jurov>	i don't mind rg at this point, worse enw owners are equally inept
Feb 05 12:27:37 <imsaguy>	he isn't his key
Feb 05 12:27:43 <pigeons>	cant trust him not to break contracts, thats true
Feb 05 12:27:57 <jurov>	they still didn't decide whether they'll list or not
Feb 05 12:28:00 <imsaguy>	I wanna know what grubles got out of this
Feb 05 12:28:05 <jurov>	"probably on btct"
Feb 05 12:28:16 <imsaguy>	besides the shaft
Feb 05 12:28:24 <jcpham>	imsaguy/query grubles
Feb 05 12:28:26 <jcpham>	shit
Feb 05 12:28:28 <pigeons>	that's why i figure
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Feb 05 12:28:53 <pigeons>	i think it was just time for both of them to move on, and people did get screwed and it certainly didnt have to be that way, but oh well
Feb 05 12:28:57 <jcpham>	seems like i have that info in  a/query log
Feb 05 12:29:01 <jcpham>	what "he got"
Feb 05 12:29:14 <imsaguy>	meanwhile..
Feb 05 12:29:17 <imsaguy>	screw pirate
Feb 05 12:29:21 <pigeons>	yeah
Feb 05 12:29:29 <pigeons>	dude fucked you
Feb 05 12:29:39 <imsaguy>	he fucked many people
Feb 05 12:29:40 <ThickAsTh>	BTCTC takes forever to confirm deposits
Feb 05 12:29:53 <pigeons>	evil
Feb 05 12:30:02 <imsaguy>	my own damn fault
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Feb 05 12:30:39 <pigeons>	its too much damn hassle paying lenders out of my 10% weekly profits, let's do "trust accounts"
Feb 05 12:31:00 <imsaguy>	pigeons: its one of those thigns that made sense at the time when a person is tied up into the story
Feb 05 12:31:15 <imsaguy>	but in hindsight, dumb as hell
Feb 05 12:31:17 <jcpham>	i was just looking through my grubles chat logs
Feb 05 12:32:06 <jcpham>	<jcpham> so 24.4 btc @ 8.2/per
Feb 05 12:32:06 <jcpham>	<grubles> ill have pirate send them to you, cool?
Feb 05 12:32:06 <jcpham>	<jcpham> yep that works
Feb 05 12:32:10 <jcpham>	^ retarded
Feb 05 12:32:30 <imsaguy>	oh, I had much better ones
Feb 05 12:32:38 <imsaguy>	until Western Digital failed me
Feb 05 12:32:39 <jcpham>	treasure trove of lulz
Feb 05 12:33:12 <jcpham>	some of these are pretty old I'm wondering why i still have them
Feb 05 12:33:24 <imsaguy>	sentimental reasons
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Feb 05 12:33:52 <jcpham>	so i can sue when my name isn't in the credits
Feb 05 12:34:06 <imsaguy>	there we go
Feb 05 12:34:09 <imsaguy>	let's make a movie
Feb 05 12:34:14 <imsaguy>	who shall we cast as pirate?
Feb 05 12:34:25 <jcpham>	a fat guy
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Feb 05 12:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069981 = 3.0239 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:38:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2779 @ 0.00069999 = 1.9453 BTC [+]
Feb 05 12:39:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.665 = 3.325 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:39:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:39:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.611 = 6.11 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:39:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.61 = 6.1 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:40:32 <pigeons>	bill clinton
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Feb 05 12:40:57 <jurov>	bill clinton http://i.imgur.com/wAuwF.gif
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Feb 05 12:42:52 <ThickAsTh>	Erik, if you are still around, can I ask what the current & future marketing plans are for SDICE?
Feb 05 12:46:58 <evoorhees>	hey
Feb 05 12:47:01 <evoorhees>	yeah
Feb 05 12:47:35 <ThickAsTh>	I recall seeing info about a print ad campaign, maybe more, but that was all before my time
Feb 05 12:47:51 <ThickAsTh>	Just trying to get a sense of what's happening now to strike while the iron's hot
Feb 05 12:47:51 <evoorhees>	the plan, for now, is to get SD some good legal advice on how to proceed in the safest way possible. It is getting lots of press and free advertising, and I don't want to push it further before having all the ducks in a row
Feb 05 12:48:07 <ThickAsTh>	I see
Feb 05 12:48:09 <maximian>	evoorhees: that's great - it's been a worry of mine
Feb 05 12:48:52 <ThickAsTh>	So the plan is pretty much stasis while legal ducks get in a row
Feb 05 12:49:06 <truffles>	is there a website where i can learn about what this is all about?
Feb 05 12:49:17 <maximian>	You have to assume that someone at the DOJ is or will take a good look at s.dice.
Feb 05 12:49:27 <evoorhees>	yeah
Feb 05 12:49:37 <truffles>	like an s.dice how to?
Feb 05 12:49:42 <evoorhees>	it's an awesome brand and game, and deserves to be set up properly
Feb 05 12:49:44 <truffles>	i wanna be a good owl
Feb 05 12:49:50 <ThickAsTh>	It's funny though, because SDICE isnt really different than any video game
Feb 05 12:50:02 <ThickAsTh>	it bitcoins that are what they need to look at
Feb 05 12:50:03 <evoorhees>	it's a fair argument
Feb 05 12:50:44 <truffles>	and why is it that evoorhees holds 89%?
Feb 05 12:50:45 <EskimoBob_afk>	has google completely fucked up the picasaweb and forcing that shitty g+ "share picture" bs on me.. damn
Feb 05 12:50:53 <maximian>	The worst case scenario is they arrest you and splash one of those stupid DOJ banners on satoshidice.com
Feb 05 12:50:55 <ThickAsTh>	but, either way, I think some strategic marketing would make the site really take off, when it's time
Feb 05 12:51:16 <maximian>	even though that doesn't necessarily stop betting, it'll be bad
Feb 05 12:51:40 <maximian>	even if they can't charge you with anything, damage will be done
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Feb 05 12:52:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.618 = 11.124 BTC [+]
Feb 05 12:52:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.6121 = 6.121 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:52:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.612 = 3.06 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:52:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 22 @ 0.61 = 13.42 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:52:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.6 = 27 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:52:57 <truffles>	is there a utube for s.dice?
Feb 05 12:52:59 <maximian>	so it would be nice to know if you have a contingency plan for that
Feb 05 12:53:04 <EskimoBob_afk>	maximian: you really do not even need that web page to waste your time gambling. It has no useful features, features that add real value.
Feb 05 12:53:26 <evoorhees>	"The worst case scenario is they arrest you and splash one of those stupid DOJ banners on satoshidice.com" - I've taken steps to handle this
Feb 05 12:53:38 <evoorhees>	would be bad for me, but SD would live on
Feb 05 12:53:39 <maximian>	It's where the brand is presented, where you learn how to play - it's important
Feb 05 12:53:55 <evoorhees>	ThickAsTh - agreed
Feb 05 12:54:09 <truffles>	evoorhees is there a s.dice utube?
Feb 05 12:54:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.601 = 6.01 BTC [+]
Feb 05 12:54:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.6 = 12 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:54:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.6 = 24 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:54:30 <evoorhees>	no... you wanna make one?
Feb 05 12:54:32 <maximian>	OK.
Feb 05 12:54:47 <truffles>	it could be very useful for ppl like me
Feb 05 12:55:01 <truffles>	im not a good candidate for that
Feb 05 12:55:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.6 = 9 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:55:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:55:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:55:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
Feb 05 12:55:32 <evoorhees>	anyone know anyone who makes youtube vids?
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Feb 05 12:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1442 @ 0.00689996 = 9.9497 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 13:00:22 <truffles>	http://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamepanel?game=cantstop this game is fun
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Feb 05 13:00:30 <truffles>	makes me think of that
Feb 05 13:05:57 <ThickAsTh>	That is one side that is missing from SDICE, easily guiding a gambler into setting up a bitcoin wallet and sending a bet
Feb 05 13:06:16 <truffles>	i cant get over how bad this site design looks..
Feb 05 13:07:17 <truffles>	yea im still confused about how this bitcoin setup works
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Feb 05 13:12:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5050 @ 0.0056 = 28.28 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 13:13:25 <jcpham>	evoorhees i'm all over the youtubes
Feb 05 13:14:37 <evoorhees>	truffles you don't like the SD site?
Feb 05 13:14:44 <truffles>	no its terrible
Feb 05 13:14:59 <evoorhees>	jcpham - if you can make a good SD vid for youtube I'll be happy to send you some coins
Feb 05 13:15:05 <evoorhees>	maybe chat with me on skype?
Feb 05 13:15:08 <DeaDTerra>	Try the client :)
Feb 05 13:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4657 @ 0.00068597 = 3.1946 BTC [-]
Feb 05 13:15:13 <DeaDTerra>	the client is really easy to use
Feb 05 13:15:27 <evoorhees>	except that you break it every day deadterra :)
Feb 05 13:15:45 <DeaDTerra>	haha :P I will break it until it's unbreakable ^^
Feb 05 13:16:01 <jcpham>	i've never actually used skype
Feb 05 13:16:06 <jcpham>	i'm weird with technology
Feb 05 13:16:23 <truffles>	it took forever to process now my bitcoin software is still processing wth!
Feb 05 13:16:26 <jcpham>	so a satoshidice video...
Feb 05 13:16:44 <truffles>	yea do include the edge in that in vid
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Feb 05 13:17:30 <evoorhees>	sent pm jcpham
Feb 05 13:19:10 <topace_>	mircea_popescu: still sleeping? waiting on a deposit here....  :)
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Feb 05 13:21:21 <DeaDTerra>	why doesn't he automate deposits?
Feb 05 13:21:30 <DeaDTerra>	I understand manual withdraws, but manual deposits?
Feb 05 13:22:13 <ThickAsTh>	So if you jumped from .0044 to .0055, where does that leave the next 3 tranches? kinda hard to go too much further up
Feb 05 13:22:47 <ThickAsTh>	and the market will be down after these two also
Feb 05 13:25:10 <evoorhees>	.0044 clearly angered lots of people
Feb 05 13:25:14 <truffles>	whats a tranche?
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Feb 05 13:25:57 <ThickAsTh>	i dunno, it's the word everyone is using for releasing a batch of shares
Feb 05 13:26:02 <ThickAsTh>	:)
Feb 05 13:26:12 <pigeons>	.0068 looks like a good price
Feb 05 13:26:26 <ThickAsTh>	They won't sell at that price
Feb 05 13:26:30 <evoorhees>	a tranche is like a "batch" of something
Feb 05 13:26:33 <truffles>	so there can be infinite batches?
Feb 05 13:26:38 <evoorhees>	usually used when talking about financial assets
Feb 05 13:27:08 <grubles>	DeaDTerra: he wants to personally rub your bitcoins between his fingers to check if they are counterfeit or not
Feb 05 13:27:21 <evoorhees>	we'll see how things go with .0055
Feb 05 13:27:28 <evoorhees>	I'll post ahead of time for any other tranches
Feb 05 13:27:40 <ThickAsTh>	theyre already sold in theory
Feb 05 13:28:05 <ThickAsTh>	isnt there like 800k depsoited to MPEX waiting?
Feb 05 13:28:10 <ThickAsTh>	hehe
Feb 05 13:28:17 <DeaDTerra>	It's so weird, if Mircea doesn't come online in the next 3-4 hours then things might get a bit tight for me egarding the next tranch
Feb 05 13:28:23 <gesell>	after some thought, on the whole s.dice share thing... maybe it's a good thing that people are forced to think in terms of long term investment (mostly for dividends) rather than traditional stocks. i;d be happy if you would under sell every time. at the moment bitcoin stocks are still, well, they shouldnt be assumed the same
Feb 05 13:28:29 <DeaDTerra>	me and time zones don't mix well xD
Feb 05 13:29:12 <truffles>	seems ppl arent happy about random tranche announcements
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Feb 05 13:29:24 <truffles>	so i wonder if there is a fixed amount that can be done
Feb 05 13:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 180 @ 0.00689996 = 1.242 BTC [+]
Feb 05 13:29:32 <gesell>	truffles: but there really isnt a better way
Feb 05 13:29:52 <gesell>	people arent happy because they didnt get "their" share of the opportunity. but it doesnt matter if they are announced in advance or not, its going to be dificult
Feb 05 13:30:00 <jcpham>	evoorhees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bFEap2TNB8
Feb 05 13:30:06 <jcpham>	i make videos where i endanger others
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Feb 05 13:30:11 <evoorhees>	gesell - I like your attitude
Feb 05 13:30:23 <pigeons>	set a future date when more shares are available, and say the price will be X % of X-day moving average
Feb 05 13:30:32 <ThickAsTh>	for the big players, announcing is ideal, for the small guys, a surprise might be better
Feb 05 13:31:03 <truffles>	i dunno who likes that kind of surprise..
Feb 05 13:31:13 <ThickAsTh>	I did
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Feb 05 13:31:22 <gesell>	the point is that you are not really solving anything truffles
Feb 05 13:31:22 <ThickAsTh>	because i was awake and saw erik post the news
Feb 05 13:31:34 <truffles>	im not solving i want to understand
Feb 05 13:31:37 <evoorhees>	well unfortunately there is no way to tell the whole market at once
Feb 05 13:31:41 <evoorhees>	globe is round :(
Feb 05 13:31:45 <EskimoBob_afk>	DeaDTerra: pervert mircea_popescu is busy, beating up some poor woman, and screaming at his limp dick, right about now
Feb 05 13:32:30 <Anduck>	u cant be afk and typing
Feb 05 13:32:31 <ThickAsTh>	I take it Bob likes Mircea a lot
Feb 05 13:33:29 <grubles>	he has a way with words
Feb 05 13:37:20 <truffles>	gesell what was it that you think i was trying to solve though
Feb 05 13:37:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1446 @ 0.00069998 = 1.0122 BTC [+]
Feb 05 13:37:41 <ThickAsTh>	Posting a portion of the tranches on the passthroughs might also go a long way to keep people quiet. (Could also make things worse too I guess. Havelock price didn't fluctuate much during all this, oddly)
Feb 05 13:37:45 <EskimoBob_afk>	evoorhees: why did you need multiple large investors?
Feb 05 13:38:06 <EskimoBob_afk>	are those "investors" guys who wrote the code?
Feb 05 13:38:17 <gesell>	truffles: i get the feeling that a lot of the angst is really rooted in the fact that its hard to "get on top of that" share drop opportunity before the established players. but i dont see a way to solve that
Feb 05 13:38:20 <EskimoBob_afk>	and you just had to give up some of it?
Feb 05 13:38:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.0056 = 1.68 BTC [+]
Feb 05 13:38:37 <gesell>	or
Feb 05 13:39:59 <gesell>	the angst is in relation to people treating mpex stocks like a real stock market. and the volume isnt there for that. if this were a real stock market s.dice drop would have been closer to the market price because there would have been enough volume to eat it up. with where the volume is, it made sense where he put it. ON TOP of that, the whole idea of forcing his investors to think of s.dice stock different, not as a stock to quickly day trade on but ra
Feb 05 13:40:00 <EskimoBob_afk>	actually, did you even have a company before(!) you guys invented billion shares and sold 5% on that bazaar?
Feb 05 13:40:15 <truffles>	im curious why they was any rumblings, they knew the risks
Feb 05 13:40:41 <gesell>	im not upset at all that i bought at 0078
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Feb 05 13:42:03 <gesell>	just sad that i wasnt a mpex whale that could scoop up another 20000k shares at 0044
Feb 05 13:42:03 <gesell>	but that is just the difference between being a mpex player, and being a normal long term investor
Feb 05 13:42:04 <gesell>	which reminds me, im gonna take my dividends and reinvest now ;)
Feb 05 13:42:26 <truffles>	 day trade on but what
Feb 05 13:42:29 <truffles>	finish the thought
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Feb 05 13:43:58 <gesell>	truffles: well not day trade, but to look at the stock as something to trade just on its value alone
Feb 05 13:44:09 <gesell>	i mean a lot of the s.dice drop got picked up by people that just plan to resell it. this is investment in relation to supply and demand in the market, not investment in s.dice long term, imho
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Feb 05 13:46:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2870 @ 0.0056 = 16.072 BTC [+]
Feb 05 13:46:14 <gesell>	maybe i mix up words. hard to describe where i feel there is a difference in how one deals with s.dice on mpex, but there is
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Feb 05 13:46:51 <truffles>	to me seems like a lil niche for the nerd crowd to swap
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Feb 05 13:47:36 <gesell>	totally
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Feb 05 13:47:51 <gesell>	the dividends are not however
Feb 05 13:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00069998 = 9.7997 BTC [+]
Feb 05 13:48:03 <evoorhees>		EskimoBob_afk	"why did you need multiple large investors?" - some investment was needed to provide capital for the betting pool.
Feb 05 13:48:11 <EskimoBob_afk>	gesell: mpex whales and  mpex players live in your head. normal, long term investors actually exist :)
Feb 05 13:48:19 <evoorhees>	wasn't so much a "need" as a "that would be smart to do"
Feb 05 13:48:29 <EskimoBob_afk>	evoorhees: really?
Feb 05 13:48:40 <evoorhees>	yes really, why?
Feb 05 13:48:50 <evoorhees>	do you know how large the bet pool is?
Feb 05 13:49:06 <evoorhees>	I assume you've seen the swings of several thousand BTC before :)
Feb 05 13:49:13 <jurov>	folks... got an idea. how much would you pay for 250 BTC on MPEx? to be able to place your order nao?
Feb 05 13:49:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.62 = 3.72 BTC [+]
Feb 05 13:49:28 <EskimoBob_afk>	did you just made it up?
Feb 05 13:49:35 <evoorhees>	?
Feb 05 13:49:42 <jurov>	no. i can sell some S.MPOE
Feb 05 13:50:09 <jurov>	they are my own, not coinbr clients.
Feb 05 13:50:18 <ThickAsTh>	There are passthrough players already
Feb 05 13:50:19 <gesell>	jurov: i'd avoid it
Feb 05 13:50:30 <jurov>	it would at a loss, so i just threw it in what would be the offers
Feb 05 13:51:09 <truffles>	at what point is s.dice considered mainstream?
Feb 05 13:51:37 <ThickAsTh>	You know those reports that Dooglus posts daily on bitcointalk.com? Is there a way to generate some of that info on the fly?
Feb 05 13:51:37 <pigeons>	some point after bitcoin is
Feb 05 13:51:54 <pigeons>	ThickAsTh: its in the extras directory in bitcoin armory
Feb 05 13:52:16 <ThickAsTh>	I got that far, but I don't know jack about python
Feb 05 13:52:22 <ThickAsTh>	i installed it
Feb 05 13:52:23 <truffles>	well ppl dont understand how bitcoin works enough to just fool aroudn with so i dunno how thatll happen
Feb 05 13:52:24 <jurov>	gesell, why not?
Feb 05 13:52:33 <ThickAsTh>	and tried running the py, but it doesnt do anything
Feb 05 13:52:38 <pigeons>	ThickAsTh: python satoshiDiceStats.py
Feb 05 13:52:43 <pigeons>	it outputs a report
Feb 05 13:53:56 <ThickAsTh>	thanks pigeons, I'll try again
Feb 05 13:56:12 <truffles>	when is this utube expected to be completed with jcpham???
Feb 05 13:56:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.62 = 18.6 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 13:57:33 <gesell>	jurov: well i dont know. guess go for it
Feb 05 13:58:20 <jurov>	that depends if anyone makes me interesting offer
Feb 05 13:58:43 <jurov>	so far looks like aveyone is content waiting for mp
Feb 05 13:59:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00069998 = 27.8592 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 14:02:09 <EskimoBob_afk>	evoorhees: have you talked to IRS or any other 3 letter asswipes?
Feb 05 14:02:56 <evoorhees>	No but I'm talking with a lawfirm to ensure things are handled properly, now that the site has grown to a significant operation
Feb 05 14:02:59 <EskimoBob_afk>	I bet they love you by now :) and really like to some angry sex with you
Feb 05 14:03:16 <EskimoBob_afk>	" I'm talking with a lawfirm" - did you really have to say that?
Feb 05 14:03:26 <pigeons>	mommy, why is that eskimo angry?
Feb 05 14:03:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 952 @ 0.0056 = 5.3312 BTC [+]
Feb 05 14:04:12 <gesell>	evoorhees: do you see any other significant business in the market that could provide more s.dice like diversity of investment and activity?
Feb 05 14:04:26 <EskimoBob_afk>	gigavps talked to his lawyer... nice shit storm
Feb 05 14:05:15 <evoorhees>	gesell - hard to match s.dice today, but for sure over the next year there will be some amazing bitcoin companies that emerge
Feb 05 14:05:24 <evoorhees>	not sure if they'll list on the asset markets though
Feb 05 14:05:29 <DeaDTerra>	MIRCEA wake up :) we have tons of deposits again ^^
Feb 05 14:05:47 <gigavps>	EskimoBob_afk, you're funny
Feb 05 14:05:49 <evoorhees>	because any company that approaches the earning potential of S.dice might follow the traditional route of getting angel invesetment or VCs
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Feb 05 14:06:05 <DeaDTerra>	Well to be honest bitcoin assets and legality in the US don't mix xD
Feb 05 14:06:14 <evoorhees>	s.dice was unique because it started tiny and grew without a requirement of capital
Feb 05 14:06:22 <DeaDTerra>	hence Gigamining took a bit of anti money laundery rules etc to the face
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Feb 05 14:06:50 <EskimoBob_afk>	gigavps: you are funnier, so many investors are laughing because you fucked them so gently up the arse
Feb 05 14:06:52 <maximian>	evoorhees: what if the law firm says that you have to collect info on your shareholders?
Feb 05 14:06:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1500 @ 0.0056 = 8.4 BTC [+]
Feb 05 14:07:20 <maximian>	would you take that advice seriously, or ignore it?
Feb 05 14:07:25 <evoorhees>	not sure
Feb 05 14:07:39 <truffles>	wrong answer
Feb 05 14:08:01 <gigavps>	EskimoBob_afk, if that was true, why are there so many Gigaminers claiming and getting paid?
Feb 05 14:08:10 <gesell>	bleh, the local bot that bitcoin-24 run on their exchange really is getting on my nerves (it ALWAYS up bids above you)
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Feb 05 14:08:36 <DeaDTerra>	I need to get the claim documents going :P I have been lazy and haven't fixed them yet ^^
Feb 05 14:09:00 <gigavps>	fyi, over 2000 coins have been paid :P
Feb 05 14:09:19 <maximian>	that might be a concern for me, not sure
Feb 05 14:09:22 <gigavps>	so maybe you should shut the fuck up when you don't know what you are fucking talking about
Feb 05 14:09:46 *	gigavps may have been a little too harsh there...
Feb 05 14:09:52 <truffles>	a lil
Feb 05 14:09:54 <jcpham>	wham
Feb 05 14:10:04 <jcpham>	gigadtfu
Feb 05 14:10:21 <truffles>	but how else can we learn if we dont ask..
Feb 05 14:10:34 <gigavps>	no need to ask, i do what i say i'm going to do
Feb 05 14:10:37 <gigavps>	full stop
Feb 05 14:10:42 <jurov>	there so many Gigaminers claiming and getting laid?
Feb 05 14:10:51 <ThickAsTh>	shareholder identities for digital goods seems like like an off-the-mark desire
Feb 05 14:10:59 *	truffles wants to get laid
Feb 05 14:11:04 <EskimoBob_afk>	gigavps: so many? You mean those who are in US or who are willing to spend over 150EUR? Dude, you are a disgusting...
Feb 05 14:11:12 <gigavps>	lol
Feb 05 14:11:21 <gigavps>	over 50% of claims are from outside the US
Feb 05 14:11:30 <gigavps>	EskimoBob_afk, give it up
Feb 05 14:11:36 <gigavps>	you have nothing to troll about
Feb 05 14:11:37 <EskimoBob_afk>	lol
Feb 05 14:11:41 <EskimoBob_afk>	beg me
Feb 05 14:11:51 <EskimoBob_afk>	and I'll hug you and we can make up
Feb 05 14:11:56 <jcpham>	am i missing some class A trolling?
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Feb 05 14:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 343 @ 0.00068597 = 0.2353 BTC [-]
Feb 05 14:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1557 @ 0.00068596 = 1.068 BTC [-]
Feb 05 14:12:11 <gigavps>	EskimoBob_afk, i hope we meet someday
Feb 05 14:13:42 <truffles>	will there be a tape?
Feb 05 14:13:50 <EskimoBob_afk>	really?
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Feb 05 14:14:53 <DeaDTerra>	tbh the only thing I don't understand with the claim is why there's a need for someone else to sign it. I understand it out of a legal perspective oyu have to but out of a practical perspective I don't. How do they know where I live or who I am, they don't give a shit they just sign some paper to make a extra buck
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Feb 05 14:14:56 <EskimoBob_afk>	I'll be in Miami one day. I'll call you up and you can buy me a drink with coins you stole from all those investors
Feb 05 14:15:16 <gigavps>	kind of hard to steal coins when you are paying them back
Feb 05 14:15:35 <DeaDTerra>	In sweden all you need is a personal number which is given when your born, and you know everything about me. No need to prove my address with some silly number no need to have some random person sign some contract. It's simpler here in Sweden
Feb 05 14:15:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2548 @ 0.0056 = 14.2688 BTC [+]
Feb 05 14:16:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00069998 = 3.2899 BTC [+]
Feb 05 14:16:21 <iz>	DeaDTerra: what if someone else uses your number?
Feb 05 14:16:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.659958 = 6.5996 BTC [+]
Feb 05 14:16:49 <DeaDTerra>	You provide a ID and the number.
Feb 05 14:16:50 <EskimoBob_afk>	DeaDTerra: is it true that in Norway income is public information?
Feb 05 14:17:00 <DeaDTerra>	It's public in Sweden
Feb 05 14:17:06 <DeaDTerra>	so I guess it's public in Norway
Feb 05 14:17:16 <DeaDTerra>	though in Sweden if someone checks me out I have the right to know who did it and when
Feb 05 14:17:27 <truffles>	gigavps, whyd you steal from investors?
Feb 05 14:17:29 <EskimoBob_afk>	did you guys start using those ID card that can be used to sign documents etc ?
Feb 05 14:17:43 <DeaDTerra>	Everything is transparent in Sweden as we have such a huge state :P
Feb 05 14:17:54 <DeaDTerra>	The E-identity things?
Feb 05 14:18:17 <EskimoBob_afk>	truffles: everyone, who did not pay for notary etc, lost the shares and divs
Feb 05 14:18:28 <EskimoBob_afk>	DeaDTerra: yes
Feb 05 14:18:50 <DeaDTerra>	Yea we have those in Sweden though I haven't set mine up yet
Feb 05 14:18:52 <truffles>	this is a lot to know, notary??
Feb 05 14:19:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0056 = 28 BTC [+]
Feb 05 14:19:14 <EskimoBob_afk>	it's like a id card but has some chip etc and signed doc with that is as good as real signature on a paper (actually better, some say)
Feb 05 14:19:31 <EskimoBob_afk>	truffles: read the forums :)
Feb 05 14:19:44 <truffles>	which
Feb 05 14:19:55 <EskimoBob_afk>	exactly
Feb 05 14:20:05 <DeaDTerra>	nah, we don't have that. We just have a e-identification card which you can use to sign things online. It's connected to your bank etc
Feb 05 14:20:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
Feb 05 14:20:42 <truffles>	bitcointalk.org?
Feb 05 14:21:36 <EskimoBob_afk>	yes truffles
Feb 05 14:21:54 <truffles>	talking to people is instant though
Feb 05 14:22:42 <EskimoBob_afk>	truffles: you are not talking to people, you are typing to a fkn window :)
Feb 05 14:22:58 <truffles>	i like windows
Feb 05 14:23:44 <truffles>	"Why are bitcointalk forum members so stupid?"
Feb 05 14:23:50 <truffles>	see im in the right place here
Feb 05 14:24:37 <truffles>	"Out of all the forums that I have frequented (and I've been on some seriously high volume forums), it is bitcointalk.org that has the dubious distinction of warehousing the largest number of what can only be described as "retards." "
Feb 05 14:26:27 <gesell>	has anyone really looked at the satcoin (SAT Solver for mining) writeup? could this actually extend GPU life a little for mining?
Feb 05 14:26:42 <jurov>	i skimmed it
Feb 05 14:26:46 <gigavps>	gesell, link?
Feb 05 14:27:06 <gesell>	http://jheusser.github.com/2013/02/03/satcoin.html
Feb 05 14:27:31 <jurov>	i doubt the algo is useful for gpus
Feb 05 14:28:06 <jurov>	the SHA1 formula is too big
Feb 05 14:30:02 <ThickAsTh>	Just saw Dooglus' report, great day for SDICE
Feb 05 14:30:03 <gesell>	jurov: i dont understand. why not? its applied to crypto as an alternative for bruteforce
Feb 05 14:30:22 <EskimoBob_afk>	truffles: who wrote that? You?
Feb 05 14:31:01 <truffles>	nope threat title and 1st comment
Feb 05 14:31:06 <ThickAsTh>	I've seen much worse forums than bitcointalk.org
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Feb 05 14:31:10 <truffles>	thread
Feb 05 14:31:14 <EskimoBob_afk>	LOL, I see
Feb 05 14:31:17 <jurov>	gesell i thought to convert one round of SHA into BNF. got impression that it will be quite big
Feb 05 14:31:42 <jurov>	but didn't dug deeper
Feb 05 14:32:04 <gesell>	i guess i have reading to do
Feb 05 14:32:14 <gesell>	perhaps yu are rightr
Feb 05 14:32:15 <jurov>	and gpus need small dataset
Feb 05 14:33:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.621 = 12.42 BTC [-]
Feb 05 14:33:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.62 = 3.1 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 14:34:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00069998 = 4.2699 BTC [+]
Feb 05 14:34:25 <gesell>	any chance mpex will be funding wallets before the s.dice drop?
Feb 05 14:34:50 <jurov>	still 8 hours left, i believe it will
Feb 05 14:34:56 <Bugpowder>	I hope not
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Feb 05 14:35:05 <gesell>	bleh, waiting for my blockchain to sync. gah
Feb 05 14:35:13 <Bugpowder>	Sleep Sleep sweet popescu
Feb 05 14:35:35 <jurov>	omg
Feb 05 14:36:04 <gesell>	man, DPR should give him a continious supply to keep him awake at all times
Feb 05 14:36:11 <kakobrekla>	o some one wanna buy my cxBtc
Feb 05 14:36:27 <Bugpowder>	I am selling
Feb 05 14:36:27 <jurov>	lol, you're in it too?
Feb 05 14:36:37 <kakobrekla>	in what?
Feb 05 14:36:38 <Bugpowder>	2 for 1
Feb 05 14:36:43 <jurov>	selling mpexbtc
Feb 05 14:36:47 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 05 14:36:55 <Bugpowder>	such a panic
Feb 05 14:36:56 <kakobrekla>	o this is a real sport now?
Feb 05 14:37:05 <Bugpowder>	for a 20% gain
Feb 05 14:37:13 <Bugpowder>	let's collude
Feb 05 14:38:32 <jurov>	what 20% you pay 1.2BTC for 1MPExBTC?
Feb 05 14:40:52 <gesell>	lol, theres no mention of the second s.dice drop on reddit. guess they are all just waiting to post complaints post 10pm
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Feb 05 14:41:47 <jurov>	oh no reddit. the atmosphere is tense enough already :D
Feb 05 14:41:50 <maximian>	All this attention is ultimately good for s.dice
Feb 05 14:42:34 <evoorhees>	I think a lot of people were just caught off guard
Feb 05 14:42:36 <evoorhees>	and that is my fault
Feb 05 14:42:43 <evoorhees>	I should've announced it ahead of time
Feb 05 14:42:56 <Bugpowder>	YES
Feb 05 14:43:01 <evoorhees>	I'm talking with one of the most vocal critics now, and I think that would've gone a long way to making him feel fine about it
Feb 05 14:43:04 <Bugpowder>	Maybe you should sell 2MM
Feb 05 14:43:13 <Bugpowder>	that dude probably has like 5000 shares
Feb 05 14:43:22 <Bugpowder>	wanker
Feb 05 14:43:58 <evoorhees>	it's fine... he's talking to me now and no worries
Feb 05 14:43:59 <jurov>	but maximian has a point. outrageous moves on stock exchange are good for popularity :D
Feb 05 14:44:26 <gigavps>	evoorhees, i hope you aren't caught "off guard" when the US decides SDICE is no dice
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Feb 05 14:44:40 <gesell>	so then sell them in blocks of 1k with each block N mBTC greater than the last, pump up the price to insanity :P
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Feb 05 14:45:06 <evoorhees>	SDICE is not a US company, nor is it hosted in the US, nor does it use US currency
Feb 05 14:45:09 <jurov>	no. sell every 1k block at random price
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Feb 05 14:45:14 <evoorhees>	though I know the US does wahtever it wants
Feb 05 14:45:35 <maximian>	evoorhees, you should move to Europe and change the domain to satoshidice.ie :)
Feb 05 14:45:36 <gesell>	if the US had DHS take down the name and you switched to namecoin, it'd be freaking AWESOME!
Feb 05 14:45:43 <gesell>	the domain name i mean
Feb 05 14:45:44 <gigavps>	evoorhees, exactly
Feb 05 14:46:00 <evoorhees>	hehehe
Feb 05 14:46:08 <gigavps>	if US residents play your game, you'll probably come under fire at some point
Feb 05 14:46:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.62 = 11.16 BTC [-]
Feb 05 14:46:37 <ThickAsTh>	to me, it's the exchanges that deal in fiat that will get in trouble
Feb 05 14:46:38 <maximian>	the problem is, the DOJ destroys businesses first, asks questions later.
Feb 05 14:46:43 <gesell>	i wonder how the icelandish protection laws for journalism and data safehavens could be applied for gambling
Feb 05 14:46:47 <ThickAsTh>	they are the main point of laundering
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Feb 05 14:47:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 91 @ 0.011 = 1.001 BTC [+]
Feb 05 14:47:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.62 = 13.02 BTC [-]
Feb 05 14:47:31 <ThickAsTh>	i'm amazed that converting $ to BTC is going on at all
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Feb 05 14:48:16 <evoorhees>	what do you mean thickasth?
Feb 05 14:48:59 <ThickAsTh>	well the easiest charge
Feb 05 14:49:01 <ThickAsTh>	is laundering
Feb 05 14:49:18 <gigavps>	evoorhees, has sdice had any contact for any government regarding the lawfulness of it's operations
Feb 05 14:49:22 <ThickAsTh>	and that happens the moment fiat is taken and BTC is given
Feb 05 14:49:27 <gigavps>	s/for/from/
Feb 05 14:49:34 <evoorhees>	no
Feb 05 14:49:37 <mjr__>	he is trading fake stuff for other fake stuff in the eyes of anyone
Feb 05 14:49:42 <mjr__>	he never touches fiat
Feb 05 14:49:58 <ThickAsTh>	So, places like Dwolla can't last
Feb 05 14:50:17 <mjr__>	i personally don't see how the govt can say "not legal tender" and then at the same time say "you can't trade play money"
Feb 05 14:50:24 <mjr__>	so i think legally speaking he is quite safe
Feb 05 14:50:33 <ThickAsTh>	i think SDICE is pretty safe
Feb 05 14:50:48 <ThickAsTh>	only vbecause there are bigger, more guilty parties
Feb 05 14:50:50 <mjr__>	also i thought sdice was in ireland...am i way off?
Feb 05 14:50:53 <ThickAsTh>	"guilty"
Feb 05 14:51:11 <evoorhees>	sdice is in ireland
Feb 05 14:51:13 <mjr__>	i read an article where they explained how govt trying to crack down on bitcoin would make it even more successful
Feb 05 14:51:20 <evoorhees>	it is not a company
Feb 05 14:51:23 <mjr__>	streisand effect
Feb 05 14:51:24 <evoorhees>	it does not have bank accounts
Feb 05 14:51:24 <ThickAsTh>	Another thing the US could do is regulate where banks can send money
Feb 05 14:51:32 <mjr__>	they have and could
Feb 05 14:51:38 <ThickAsTh>	and stop banks from ACHing to bitcoin exchanges
Feb 05 14:51:47 <Lyspooner>	evoorhees, it seems like you went from bitcoin spokesperson to accidental millionaire.  how do you want to be remembered?
Feb 05 14:51:48 <Bugpowder>	jurov, the random price idea is actually really good
Feb 05 14:51:51 <mjr__>	i want to buy some bitcoins locally in nyc
Feb 05 14:51:55 <Bugpowder>	it will hit the highest ask
Feb 05 14:51:57 <Bugpowder>	err bid
Feb 05 14:52:19 <Bugpowder>	and people must bid thier preferred price, with no guidance from the offering
Feb 05 14:52:26 <Bugpowder>	only from the other bids
Feb 05 14:52:31 <Bugpowder>	and their own sense
Feb 05 14:52:51 <EskimoBob_afk>	"ThickAsTh | Another thing the US could do is regulate where banks can send money" - wake up dude. This is done all the time
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Feb 05 14:53:01 <mjr__>	just so you guys know
Feb 05 14:53:18 <mjr__>	have you not seen the startups who have raised seed rounds?
Feb 05 14:53:25 <mjr__>	coinbase being the most public example?
Feb 05 14:53:40 <mjr__>	those are some HUGE names attached to the financing of over a half a million USD
Feb 05 14:53:43 <iz>	how much did they raise?
Feb 05 14:54:03 <mjr__>	and i seriously doubt that those VC's and YCombinator would not at least think of legal ramifications
Feb 05 14:54:12 <mjr__>	600k
Feb 05 14:54:16 <topace_>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 05 14:54:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.52100000 / 0.62504313 / 0.76500000 (682 shares, 426.27941480 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.71781239 / 0.89000000 (2529 shares, 1815.34753929 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.61915127 / 0.89000000 (6188 shares, 3831.30805722 BTC)
Feb 05 14:54:22 <mjr__>	another one raised half a mil
Feb 05 14:54:29 <mjr__>	i think 2 actually raised half a mil each
Feb 05 14:54:39 <mjr__>	so business is starting to notice
Feb 05 14:54:59 <mjr__>	and coinbase's stated goal is to make it as easy as possible to transfer USD for BTC
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Feb 05 14:55:20 <mjr__>	the revolution will not be televised lol
Feb 05 14:55:43 <evoorhees>	VC money is absolutely noticing bitcoin now
Feb 05 14:55:45 <evoorhees>	I promise
Feb 05 14:55:56 <mjr__>	yes i know
Feb 05 14:56:01 <mjr__>	i am hoping to meet with one later this week
Feb 05 14:56:10 <mjr__>	and have a couple of others who have expressed interest
Feb 05 14:56:11 <evoorhees>	nice
Feb 05 14:56:23 <mjr__>	in fact firstmark capital is in my office building
Feb 05 14:56:24 <mjr__>	lol
Feb 05 14:56:32 <mjr__>	hey neighbor, got a cup of sugar?
Feb 05 14:58:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1500 @ 0.0061 = 9.15 BTC [+]
Feb 05 14:59:59 <EskimoBob_afk>	evoorhees: whales http://wumocomicstrip.com/strip/2012/08/26/
Feb 05 15:00:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0066 BTC [+]
Feb 05 15:00:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1499 @ 0.0067 = 10.0433 BTC [+]
Feb 05 15:00:32 <evoorhees>	lol
Feb 05 15:01:40 <EskimoBob_afk>	I  just hit random and it showed up :) LOL
Feb 05 15:09:28 <SpNg>	how does coinbase differ from say Mtgox? They are both BTC wallets with the ability to convert from fiat to BTC right?
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Feb 05 15:16:31 <mjr__>	that is my point
Feb 05 15:16:40 <mjr__>	they try to sell ease of use
Feb 05 15:16:44 <mjr__>	better UI
Feb 05 15:16:55 <mjr__>	but they did not actually do anything new
Feb 05 15:16:57 <mjr__>	i think
Feb 05 15:17:06 <mjr__>	but that is my point
Feb 05 15:17:27 <mjr__>	it doesn't have to be crazy and new
Feb 05 15:19:05 <jurov>	evoorhees what do you say to these doublespends: http://blockchain.info/double-spends ?
Feb 05 15:19:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [+]
Feb 05 15:24:22 <evoorhees>	jurov - I have a way to see how many doublespends are successful against SD
Feb 05 15:24:30 <evoorhees>	the number is small :)
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Feb 05 15:26:41 <mjr__>	question jurov you run coinbr right?
Feb 05 15:27:09 <jurov>	ys
Feb 05 15:27:11 <jurov>	yes
Feb 05 15:27:19 <mjr__>	i was just curious, if you set a limit order, do you get best price?
Feb 05 15:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00677999 = 1.356 BTC [-]
Feb 05 15:27:36 <mjr__>	ie. let's say i put a limit order at 2...
Feb 05 15:27:43 <mjr__>	i wanna buy at 2 (example purposes)
Feb 05 15:27:57 <mjr__>	someone else posts at 1, do i get one?
Feb 05 15:28:14 <jurov>	yes you should. for 0.0055
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Feb 05 15:28:57 <mjr__>	yay
Feb 05 15:29:01 <jurov>	(if we'e speaking about buy orders for sdice)
Feb 05 15:29:50 <mjr__>	ok cool, so if i put it between the bid and ask and evoorhees posts for under my bid i get price improvement...
Feb 05 15:29:55 <mjr__>	that is what i was just checking
Feb 05 15:29:59 <jurov>	yes
Feb 05 15:30:18 <mjr__>	awesome, localbitcoins better come through today
Feb 05 15:30:19 <mjr__>	lol
Feb 05 15:30:46 <Bugpowder>	no
Feb 05 15:30:53 <jurov>	but also someone other can sell to you for that higher price
Feb 05 15:30:57 <jurov>	before ipo
Feb 05 15:30:59 <mjr__>	yes they can
Feb 05 15:31:08 <Bugpowder>	you should get it at the price you bid
Feb 05 15:31:08 <mjr__>	if they choose to sell at my place
Feb 05 15:31:12 <mjr__>	no...
Feb 05 15:31:14 <Bugpowder>	during the IPO as well
Feb 05 15:31:25 <Bugpowder>	You have a bid
Feb 05 15:31:33 <mjr__>	limit is "an order to buy a certain amount of shares at a certain price or better"
Feb 05 15:31:35 <mjr__>	yes
Feb 05 15:31:51 <Bugpowder>	someone places an ask below yours, regardless of origin, you will get filled at your bid
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Feb 05 15:31:54 <mjr__>	you cannot pay MORE than your bid
Feb 05 15:31:58 <mjr__>	no you won't
Feb 05 15:32:03 <mjr__>	first...that's not the way limit orders work
Feb 05 15:32:10 <jurov>	bugpowder, are you saying that evoorhees will send sell order at 0.0055 and ends up paying more cause of mjr__?
Feb 05 15:32:17 <mjr__>	second...jurov who runs the broker said i would get price improvement
Feb 05 15:32:24 <Bugpowder>	he will get more
Feb 05 15:32:28 <Bugpowder>	evoorhees will get more
Feb 05 15:32:34 <Bugpowder>	if the bid is higher than the price he posts
Feb 05 15:32:39 <jurov>	uh my head
Feb 05 15:32:40 <Bugpowder>	this is how it worked in S.BBET IPO
Feb 05 15:32:41 <mjr__>	no
Feb 05 15:32:50 <Bugpowder>	this is how it works in any trading system
Feb 05 15:32:51 <mjr__>	that is a silent auction
Feb 05 15:32:55 <mjr__>	oh my gosh
Feb 05 15:33:04 <Bugpowder>	You have a bid up
Feb 05 15:33:06 <mjr__>	http://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/limitorder.asp#axzz2K3IEUttG
Feb 05 15:33:08 <mjr__>	read
Feb 05 15:33:10 <Bugpowder>	dude
Feb 05 15:33:19 <mjr__>	that is how limit orders work
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Feb 05 15:33:25 <Bugpowder>	DUDE
Feb 05 15:33:26 <mjr__>	it's called price improvement
Feb 05 15:33:57 <mjr__>	the only "limit" is how high you are willing to pay, you can think of it as saying "i will pay any price up to this price for this number of shares"
Feb 05 15:33:58 <Bugpowder>	mjr__ think about it a little harder
Feb 05 15:34:11 <mjr__>	i want to buy 500 shares at this price or better
Feb 05 15:34:15 <Bugpowder>	that only works if you are buying into EXISTING ask orders
Feb 05 15:34:22 <mjr__>	no
Feb 05 15:34:27 <mjr__>	in this situation it would also work
Feb 05 15:34:40 <mjr__>	unless evoorhees chooses to set certain shaers at different prices
Feb 05 15:34:46 <Bugpowder>	evoorhees will just be selling a LIMIT order into YOUR existing order
Feb 05 15:34:48 <mjr__>	which he won't
Feb 05 15:34:53 <Bugpowder>	the price improvement will work for him, not you
Feb 05 15:34:56 <mjr__>	he will release a block at a certain price
Feb 05 15:35:00 <Bugpowder>	Yes
Feb 05 15:35:06 <Bugpowder>	he will SELL a block
Feb 05 15:35:09 <mjr__>	yes
Feb 05 15:35:14 <Bugpowder>	by placing a limit sell order
Feb 05 15:35:18 <Bugpowder>	of shares he controls
Feb 05 15:35:24 <mjr__>	ok
Feb 05 15:35:27 <mjr__>	yes i know
Feb 05 15:35:39 <Bugpowder>	all existing bids will be filled at the bid price, highest first, on down to a limit of .0055
Feb 05 15:35:49 <Bugpowder>	watch
Feb 05 15:35:51 <Bugpowder>	at 10pm.
Feb 05 15:35:56 <mjr__>	hehehe
Feb 05 15:36:08 <Bugpowder>	this is why people currently have bids over .0055
Feb 05 15:36:08 <mjr__>	wait
Feb 05 15:36:13 <Bugpowder>	to ensure they get shares.
Feb 05 15:36:16 <mjr__>	ah ok
Feb 05 15:36:28 <mjr__>	if i was closer to the ask, i would get price improvement
Feb 05 15:36:40 <Bugpowder>	no
Feb 05 15:36:50 <Bugpowder>	if his ask existed
Feb 05 15:36:59 <Bugpowder>	BEFORE you place the order, you will get improvement
Feb 05 15:37:12 <mjr__>	hmnmm
Feb 05 15:37:22 <mjr__>	by the way did he announce the price is going to be .0055
Feb 05 15:37:26 <mjr__>	?
Feb 05 15:38:52 <Bugpowder>	yes
Feb 05 15:38:54 <maximian>	maybe the bids will pile up high enough that 0.0055 isn't reached.
Feb 05 15:38:56 <Bugpowder>	its in a thread
Feb 05 15:39:00 <Bugpowder>	it is possible
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Feb 05 15:39:20 <Bugpowder>	Should be fun!
Feb 05 15:39:23 <maximian>	yep
Feb 05 15:39:29 <Bugpowder>	S.BBET IPO was fucking insane
Feb 05 15:39:55 <Bugpowder>	a new block of 10,000 shares issued 1.03x every 1 second
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Feb 05 15:40:29 <jurov>	yes. i'm just looking it up to be certain
Feb 05 15:41:05 <jurov>	for exaple before IPO there was buy order "Quantity":"54500", "Price":"55000"
Feb 05 15:41:43 <jurov>	and during IPO all the transactions went at price 55000 till the order wasn';t exhausted
Feb 05 15:42:05 <jurov>	so it should be clear now
Feb 05 15:42:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.6499 = 12.998 BTC [-]
Feb 05 15:43:48 <jurov>	sry for confusion
Feb 05 15:43:51 <jurov>	:D
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Feb 05 15:48:18 <jurov>	;;seen smickles
Feb 05 15:48:19 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <smickles> i think i recall someone keeping a log
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Feb 05 15:49:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [+]
Feb 05 15:58:59 <topace_>	mircea_popescu: when will you be around to process deposits?
Feb 05 16:00:16 <leotreasure>	how many shares are in the SD 2nd tranche?
Feb 05 16:00:23 <jurov>	1million
Feb 05 16:00:36 <leotreasure>	thanks jurov
Feb 05 16:00:43 <gesell>	based on first, 1m
Feb 05 16:00:43 <gesell>	yeah
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Feb 05 16:01:17 <gesell>	im kind of resolving myself to the reality that i might not see any of it. oh well
Feb 05 16:02:26 <leotreasure>	i missed the 1st tranche cos i went to see Tim Berners-Lee
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Feb 05 16:03:42 <gesell>	well, we all mess up sometimes ;)
Feb 05 16:04:16 <Ukyo>	leotreasure: : its gonna getcrazy
Feb 05 16:04:40 <jurov>	i hope i won't mess anything... it will be 4am here and i'll be a zombie
Feb 05 16:05:11 <jurov>	and i can't go sleep since coinbr users are pounding on the door already
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Feb 05 16:05:40 <jurov>	if i credit them late there will be lynchmob or dunno
Feb 05 16:05:48 <kakobrekla>	cheap shares yesterday = all is wrong, less cheap shares today = all is swell!
Feb 05 16:05:54 <evoorhees>	hehehe
Feb 05 16:07:46 <jurov>	"
Feb 05 16:07:48 <jurov>	I know it takes 48hrs to post due to manual processing, etc ... but
Feb 05 16:07:49 <jurov>	 > can you work with MPEX to speed it up?
Feb 05 16:07:51 <jurov>	"
Feb 05 16:07:52 <jurov>	sigh
Feb 05 16:09:49 <gesell>	yeah, let it roll off. who knows, maybe mircea_popescu will save you by just not waking up for the next 8 hours and then it can be all his fault ;)
Feb 05 16:10:18 <evoorhees>	by the way - I won't release the tranche until mircea has joined and cleared the funds
Feb 05 16:11:08 <kakobrekla>	awwww!
Feb 05 16:11:25 <evoorhees>	will people get mad at me for that also? :)
Feb 05 16:11:45 <maximian>	there's always something to be mad about :)
Feb 05 16:12:10 <Bugpowder>	yes
Feb 05 16:12:14 <maximian>	except on dividends day
Feb 05 16:12:16 <Bugpowder>	you should do it when you said you wold
Feb 05 16:12:30 <Bugpowder>	people should park their coins on mpex
Feb 05 16:12:39 <Bugpowder>	so they can be prepared
Feb 05 16:12:40 <Bugpowder>	like me
Feb 05 16:13:17 <kakobrekla>	ya.
Feb 05 16:13:24 <evoorhees>	a fair point
Feb 05 16:13:26 <kakobrekla>	prepared bought stuff yesterday.
Feb 05 16:13:31 <kakobrekla>	:)
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Feb 05 16:14:22 <jcpham>	mircea told me he was taking everyones bittycoins
Feb 05 16:14:31 <jcpham>	he wanted me to tell you to have a nice day, though
Feb 05 16:14:51 <Lyspooner>	sweet, the best bitcoin asset is a casino
Feb 05 16:14:58 <Lyspooner>	great job erik
Feb 05 16:15:02 <Lyspooner>	not your fault i guess
Feb 05 16:15:08 <Lyspooner>	but sweet
Feb 05 16:15:24 <Bugpowder>	prepared was sleeping
Feb 05 16:15:24 <kakobrekla>	yes erik not your fault for being successuful, shit just happens.
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Feb 05 16:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069769 = 3.0147 BTC [-]
Feb 05 16:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6756 @ 0.00069744 = 4.7119 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 16:21:56 <Bugpowder>	What is the bitcoin to Amazon coin exchange rate?
Feb 05 16:22:52 <jcpham>	the thing that just came out today?
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Feb 05 16:23:04 <jcpham>	or amazon cash as in gift codes
Feb 05 16:24:06 <jcpham>	it's looking like -%10 Amazon for BTC right now otc
Feb 05 16:25:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.69686969 = 2.7875 BTC [+]
Feb 05 16:25:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.6969 = 6.969 BTC [+]
Feb 05 16:25:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 67 @ 0.7 = 46.9 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 16:28:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [+]
Feb 05 16:29:31 <gesell>	evoorhees: there's no right way to do anything. bravo for trying but i guess people will get mad at something somewhere
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Feb 05 16:30:41 <gesell>	10000 Amazon Coins are currently worth 1 Bitcoin Gem
Feb 05 16:30:45 <Namworld>	there's a new tranche coming up?
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Feb 05 16:34:53 <gesell>	Namworld: go away :P
Feb 05 16:35:23 <Namworld>	Never!
Feb 05 16:35:47 <gesell>	go back to sleep
Feb 05 16:35:47 <gesell>	but yes, 1m shares at 10pm EST
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Feb 05 16:39:32 <Namworld>	ok, I'll stick around
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Feb 05 16:42:36 <jurov>	evoorhees: but it's fact that if you announced yest, you'll get much better price. you see what happens yourself.
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Feb 05 16:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00677 = 1.354 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 16:46:17 <Namworld>	Well his loss.
Feb 05 16:47:10 <Namworld>	The way I see it, it's just 5%. Gets him more BTC/USD aside. If SD keeps going like it is, he still got a large %. If it doesn't, he has money put aside.
Feb 05 16:47:28 <Namworld>	Although he said it might not be his shares
Feb 05 16:47:48 <Namworld>	Private investors and whatnot.
Feb 05 16:48:06 <ThickAsTh>	He'll get much better prices until market falls lower. Once we get to the 5th tranche itll be hard to sell at .0055
Feb 05 16:48:22 <ThickAsTh>	but itll be interesting to see how this all unfolds
Feb 05 16:48:53 <Namworld>	I am not sure it will be that hard. Plus next one should be higher still
Feb 05 16:48:54 <jurov>	have you seen http://blockchain.info/address/1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx ?
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Feb 05 16:49:09 <Namworld>	Yes, lots of deposits
Feb 05 16:49:11 <jurov>	there's queued money for 2nd tranche already
Feb 05 16:49:20 <jurov>	fully
Feb 05 16:49:36 <ThickAsTh>	actually i can see why i'm wrong
Feb 05 16:49:43 <ThickAsTh>	the dividend promise is still high
Feb 05 16:49:53 <Ukyo>	and working on 3rd tranche
Feb 05 16:50:38 <jurov>	oh i actually meant "next 3 tranches are filled by these deposits"
Feb 05 16:50:52 <jurov>	or 2 at least
Feb 05 16:50:55 <ThickAsTh>	wow
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Feb 05 16:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	ah hello everyone
Feb 05 16:55:08 <jurov>	^^ imbodied innocence
Feb 05 16:55:30 <Namworld>	jurov, most of these funds were already there before the S.DICE planned slices
Feb 05 16:55:39 <Namworld>	They might be tied in options and whatnot
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Feb 05 16:56:27 <jurov>	Namworld, click on the icon in in Final Balance row, right above "Donation Button"
Feb 05 16:56:42 <jurov>	and behold the spike in balance graph
Feb 05 16:56:58 <Bugpowder>	10k
Feb 05 16:57:25 <Bowjob>	*yawn
Feb 05 16:57:38 <Namworld>	yeah, so?
Feb 05 16:57:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2764 @ 0.00069778 = 1.9287 BTC [+]
Feb 05 16:57:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7694 @ 0.00069744 = 5.3661 BTC [-]
Feb 05 16:57:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00069567 = 2.7479 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 16:58:12 <Ukyo>	nam
Feb 05 16:58:21 <Ukyo>	since MP did the last deposit processing
Feb 05 16:58:23 <error4733>	hey btcland
Feb 05 16:58:26 <Ukyo>	there are now over 7,000 btc
Feb 05 16:58:30 <Ukyo>	waiting for deposit
Feb 05 16:58:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069092 = 6.9092 BTC [-]
Feb 05 16:59:04 <error4733>	ready for tonight ? http://imgur.com/tCp90.gif
Feb 05 16:59:13 <Bowjob>	for the shares?
Feb 05 16:59:27 <Bowjob>	I felt so bad I so the shares went from 9k to 0
Feb 05 16:59:29 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 17:00:10 <Bowjob>	*900k
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Feb 05 17:01:09 <jurov>	DEPOSITS CREDITED
Feb 05 17:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	yeah deposit flusht
Feb 05 17:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9825 @ 0.00069092 = 6.7883 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:04:47 <jurov>	well, isn't it late to make some bet?
Feb 05 17:04:56 <mircea_popescu>	sooo, next s.dice block going up soon or ?
Feb 05 17:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00069066 = 17.3356 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00069061 = 10.3592 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00068988 = 8.1061 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00068592 = 2.4007 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00068591 = 13.7182 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:11 <jurov>	yea, evoorhees said he's waiitgn for you
Feb 05 17:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27114 @ 0.00068589 = 18.5972 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12523 @ 0.00068201 = 8.5408 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7088 @ 0.00068 = 4.8198 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.0006789 = 9.267 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15122 @ 0.0006785 = 10.2603 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00067662 = 1.7592 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0006764 = 4.8024 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00067511 = 13.5022 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.0006751 = 13.502 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00067435 = 7.4516 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00067406 = 7.6843 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees been waitin' long ?
Feb 05 17:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00067283 = 7.6703 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006726 = 6.726 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:40 <Bugpowder>	hey can we just put them on sale now?
Feb 05 17:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5334 @ 0.00067034 = 3.5756 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:05:43 <Bugpowder>	that would be fun
Feb 05 17:05:46 <Ukyo>	LOL
Feb 05 17:05:57 <evoorhees>	next tranche goes live at 10pm EST
Feb 05 17:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	what time est is it nao ?
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Feb 05 17:06:11 <Bugpowder>	5:06
Feb 05 17:06:18 <jurov>	it's 4am CET
Feb 05 17:06:22 <mircea_popescu>	so then he wasn't waiting for me lol
Feb 05 17:06:41 <Bugpowder>	what will tranche 3, 4, 5 sell for???
Feb 05 17:06:45 <jurov>	if you wouldn't show, he wanted to wait
Feb 05 17:06:51 <Bugpowder>	this is important for strat
Feb 05 17:07:10 <jurov>	evoorhees don't say
Feb 05 17:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	anything exciting happen in the meanwhile ?
Feb 05 17:07:31 <evoorhees>	they'll sell only for Amazon Coins
Feb 05 17:07:35 <evoorhees>	I'm switching systems
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Feb 05 17:10:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.5198 = 1.0396 BTC [+]
Feb 05 17:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 05 17:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067034 / 0.00069117 / 0.0007 (1551506 shares, 1,072.36 BTC), 7D: 0.00063598 / 0.00067519 / 0.0007 (14828567 shares, 10,012.20 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066099 / 0.0007 (60849659 shares, 40,221.23 BTC)
Feb 05 17:15:35 <dub>	what price is the next dice dump?
Feb 05 17:15:43 <jurov>	0.0055
Feb 05 17:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	o, was it announced ?
Feb 05 17:16:27 <Bugpowder>	ya
Feb 05 17:16:35 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Feb 05 17:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	prolly better like this.
Feb 05 17:17:02 <Bugpowder>	def higher ave price
Feb 05 17:17:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.33 = 0.99 BTC [+]
Feb 05 17:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 05 17:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00451812 / 0.00739498 (1015673 shares, 4,588.94 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00562248 / 0.007395 (1691227 shares, 9,508.89 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00508174 / 0.0075 (6878960 shares, 34,957.14 BTC)
Feb 05 17:17:46 <jurov>	announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1505462#msg1505462
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Feb 05 17:17:50 <Bugpowder>	evoorhees you should actually sell at .0046.... Market will sell thru about .0055 anyway
Feb 05 17:17:54 <Bugpowder>	above
Feb 05 17:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he doesn't want to lose the .9
Feb 05 17:18:06 <Bugpowder>	he wont
Feb 05 17:18:12 <Bugpowder>	bids will be up
Feb 05 17:18:17 <Bugpowder>	above .0055
Feb 05 17:18:19 <Bugpowder>	this time
Feb 05 17:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	a that's a point yeah.
Feb 05 17:18:27 <Bugpowder>	jurov had a funny idea
Feb 05 17:18:31 <Bugpowder>	which is interesting
Feb 05 17:18:45 <Bugpowder>	sell small blocks at random prices
Feb 05 17:18:51 <Bugpowder>	like S.BBET IPO
Feb 05 17:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	those weren't random at all tho
Feb 05 17:18:59 <Bugpowder>	but random price within a range
Feb 05 17:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	and yeah, i think it was a pretty decent model.
Feb 05 17:19:14 <Bugpowder>	do not announce the range
Feb 05 17:19:45 <Bugpowder>	I wonder how the dynamics would be different from the S.BBET IPO
Feb 05 17:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	prolly worth doing as a test if anyone wants to.
Feb 05 17:20:04 <jurov>	and it would be fitting for online casino
Feb 05 17:20:30 <Bugpowder>	heh
Feb 05 17:21:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0058 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 17:29:20 <truffles>	mircea im being a good owl
Feb 05 17:30:45 <kakobrekla>	::bc,stats
Feb 05 17:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	hehe good for you.
Feb 05 17:31:00 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Feb 05 17:31:02 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 219815 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.5865656 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 1944 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 12 hours, 14 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3586919.51025840 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.50872511247
Feb 05 17:31:26 <truffles>	will see if interest remains 2 more days !
Feb 05 17:31:29 <Bowjob>	owl lol
Feb 05 17:31:38 <truffles>	yes are u bear?
Feb 05 17:31:43 <Bowjob>	I'm turning into a hawk, actually
Feb 05 17:31:45 <Bowjob>	an opportunist
Feb 05 17:31:52 <truffles>	i c
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Feb 05 17:32:28 <truffles>	oh no dont eat me
Feb 05 17:32:41 <Bowjob>	right now im an owl, but when shit happens, ill make my move
Feb 05 17:33:03 <truffles>	i think its permanent for me
Feb 05 17:33:12 <Bowjob>	why cant i see the buy orders for dice?
Feb 05 17:33:16 <Bowjob>	i only see 10k
Feb 05 17:33:19 <Bowjob>	seems paltry
Feb 05 17:33:34 <truffles>	still early?
Feb 05 17:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	maybe ppl don't want you gawking at their orders
Feb 05 17:33:39 <jurov>	lol looks like everyone is waiting with the orders...
Feb 05 17:33:42 <truffles>	i wanna be around for the tears though
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Feb 05 17:34:13 <Bowjob>	last nite havelock had some silent tears
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Feb 05 17:34:37 <Bowjob>	tears of unfathomable sadness..
Feb 05 17:34:47 <Bowjob>	secret ingredient to the most delicious chili
Feb 05 17:35:01 <truffles>	i think its chili
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Feb 05 17:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	so basically s.mpoe got sold off by people who wanted cash at the ready for s.dice
Feb 05 17:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	the monetization of s.mpoe, this is what it is.
Feb 05 17:40:44 <Bowjob>	dice appears to be doing well today too
Feb 05 17:40:53 <Bowjob>	not that it measn anything tomorrow
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Feb 05 17:41:28 <truffles>	whats a decent amount of bitcoins to have for a stash?
Feb 05 17:41:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU6m5UqLx9M
Feb 05 17:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha this is great
Feb 05 17:41:47 <pigeons>	10000-100000
Feb 05 17:42:13 <truffles>	i will take something far under that, minus a zero or 2
Feb 05 17:42:16 <Bugpowder>	heh
Feb 05 17:42:22 <Bugpowder>	dice is killin it today
Feb 05 17:42:31 <Bowjob>	esp if btc reach 100 bucks ea
Feb 05 17:42:36 <Bowjob>	yeah take a couple of zeroes
Feb 05 17:43:10 <mircea_popescu>	anyone seen keefe of late ?
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Feb 05 17:43:32 <pigeons>	few days ago
Feb 05 17:45:32 <truffles>	i see bitcoin going down to 10bucks
Feb 05 17:45:41 <truffles>	thats when ill get 100 : D
Feb 05 17:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	that wouldn't hurt.
Feb 05 17:46:11 <pizzaman1337>	everything is so much better at $10
Feb 05 17:46:39 <Bugpowder>	nah
Feb 05 17:46:42 <Bugpowder>	its better at 100
Feb 05 17:46:55 <Bugpowder>	the bills are crisper
Feb 05 17:46:58 <truffles>	way too much even for alt money
Feb 05 17:50:12 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Feb 05 17:50:14 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 219817 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.5865656 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 1942 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 14 hours, 37 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3548829.64104848 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.34584063598
Feb 05 17:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	the way the shit is going the dollar doesn't have a prayer. it will just keep tumbling against btc
Feb 05 17:51:38 <truffles>	someone should start bitcoin university, i could make a great TA
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Feb 05 17:51:51 <gesell>	can someone explain, so will there be additional s.dice dumps beyond the 1m at 0.0055?
Feb 05 17:51:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00069092 = 6.8056 BTC [+]
Feb 05 17:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	gesell erik said 3 more for now
Feb 05 17:52:24 <Namworld>	yes, 3 more dumps over 0.0055
Feb 05 17:52:39 <gesell>	and jurov said something about the first dump being already fulfilled?
Feb 05 17:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	it got filled within minutes of deposits clearing yes
Feb 05 17:53:17 <gesell>	but that volume doesnt appear on the order book, or?
Feb 05 17:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	volume never appears on the order book.
Feb 05 17:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	volume appears on the ticker tape
Feb 05 17:53:49 <gesell>	did i miss it, didnt see it from assbod
Feb 05 17:53:51 <gesell>	assbot
Feb 05 17:53:56 <Ukyo>	hmm
Feb 05 17:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	somebody quoted it recently.
Feb 05 17:54:08 <gesell>	lost my connection i guess
Feb 05 17:54:09 <Ukyo>	whats a good program to quickly drag-drop an area of the desktop to screenshot ?
Feb 05 17:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	press prtscrn ?
Feb 05 17:55:05 <Ukyo>	was looking for somethign similar
Feb 05 17:55:13 <Ukyo>	activate system tray program, and drag a box
Feb 05 17:55:18 <Ukyo>	and it just copies that area  into clipboard
Feb 05 17:55:56 <mircea_popescu>	a
Feb 05 17:56:18 <Ukyo>	ahh
Feb 05 17:56:20 <Ukyo>	windows has it built in
Feb 05 17:56:22 <Ukyo>	snipping tool
Feb 05 17:57:54 <gesell>	jurov: what did you mean "(22:51:14) jurov: oh i actually meant "next 3 tranches are filled by these deposits"?
Feb 05 17:58:37 <jurov>	gesell, i meant that 10k of deposits is enough to buy them
Feb 05 17:58:47 <jurov>	then i fixed myself, two of them
Feb 05 17:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067313 = 2.9086 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	basically i think a number of people realised that keeping funds in random places is useless and stupid
Feb 05 17:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2840 @ 0.0006728 = 1.9108 BTC [-]
Feb 05 17:59:11 <mircea_popescu>	since you risk missing out on deals for no upside.
Feb 05 17:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	it's not necessarily all of it goes to s.dice buys
Feb 05 18:00:37 <error4733>	what else... ?
Feb 05 18:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	"No, I have an update coming. We are running a very tight timeline, so getting specific dates is difficult as the whole process is fairly fluid at the moment."
Feb 05 18:00:45 <mircea_popescu>	inaba is a comedy goldmine
Feb 05 18:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	very tight and fluid, his asshole & headspace.
Feb 05 18:02:09 <truffles>	waat
Feb 05 18:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	somebody is going to clean out on that bfl delivery bet
Feb 05 18:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	and it ain't gonna be gigavps.
Feb 05 18:03:20 <mircea_popescu>	also, http://www.amazonappstoredev.com/2013/02/introducing-amazon-coins.html
Feb 05 18:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	amazon is so much fail lol
Feb 05 18:03:55 <truffles>	i dont get you mircea...
Feb 05 18:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	which part ?
Feb 05 18:04:26 <truffles>	im stuck on asshole &headspace lol
Feb 05 18:05:29 <mircea_popescu>	there's this nobody on the forums, trolling for a bullshit company peddling some vaporware that has a bunch of gigavps' money.
Feb 05 18:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	he's making a fool of himself on a biweekly basis.
Feb 05 18:06:03 <truffles>	he might have an interesting story
Feb 05 18:06:16 <pigeons>	no
Feb 05 18:07:00 <truffles>	he might
Feb 05 18:08:01 <pigeons>	he doesn't
Feb 05 18:08:19 <kakobrekla>	but but he might!
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Feb 05 18:08:47 <truffles>	aww everyone has a story
Feb 05 18:09:00 <truffles>	i wanna hear em all  :D
Feb 05 18:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	truffles give it six months. everyone's story floats to the surface.
Feb 05 18:09:16 <mircea_popescu>	tom's recent float was funny.
Feb 05 18:09:34 <truffles>	i dunno if id make a week in this place
Feb 05 18:09:48 <truffles>	long periods of silence..
Feb 05 18:09:50 <gesell>	should i go to bed and leave my small order on the books for the next tranche or do i have to stay awake?
Feb 05 18:10:22 <pigeons>	the orders don't process if you aren't watching them
Feb 05 18:10:49 <kakobrekla>	yes, i have seen that with my own eyes!
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Feb 05 18:11:12 <truffles>	pigeon on a roll
Feb 05 18:11:33 <pigeons>	too many carbs
Feb 05 18:12:09 <Bugpowder>	gesell what are you placing it at?
Feb 05 18:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	gesell real traders don't sleep.
Feb 05 18:12:32 <Bugpowder>	sounds like its time to unveil IPObot
Feb 05 18:13:01 <truffles>	i can keep an eye on things, i cant sleep
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Feb 05 18:13:19 <truffles>	1st two days free
Feb 05 18:15:04 <truffles>	omg at this thai discussion..
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Feb 05 18:23:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00676999 = 1.354 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 18:38:18 <pigeons>	Namworld: what's up with the btct.co "TRADING HAS BEEN HALTED ON S.MPOE BY THE ISSUER." ?
Feb 05 18:41:40 <Namworld>	Oh, I accidentally hit the halt trading checkbox I think
Feb 05 18:41:49 <Namworld>	I realized it was checked at some point and unchecked it.
Feb 05 18:42:01 <kakobrekla>	accidentaly switched off the matrix sry.
Feb 05 18:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17933 @ 0.0006728 = 12.0653 BTC [-]
Feb 05 18:45:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3014 @ 0.00067279 = 2.0278 BTC [-]
Feb 05 18:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Feb 05 18:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12317 @ 0.00067279 = 8.2868 BTC [-]
Feb 05 18:56:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 583 @ 0.00066962 = 0.3904 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 19:06:51 <Ukyo>	Namworld: : tossed up a first bids for bvps :)
Feb 05 19:07:02 <Ukyo>	not much.. but its all I had left after sending btc for sdice LOL
Feb 05 19:07:11 <Ukyo>	in fact its horribly small LOL
Feb 05 19:08:02 <Namworld>	ah, yeah
Feb 05 19:08:04 <Namworld>	thanks
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Feb 05 19:08:22 <Ukyo>	when I can get more btc in, I'll up it
Feb 05 19:08:25 <Namworld>	I could theorically sell shares I have on MPEx, but technically no one is moved yet
Feb 05 19:08:28 <Ukyo>	cause its seriously undervaluing bvps
Feb 05 19:08:39 <Namworld>	and I don't want to start trading before people start getting moved
Feb 05 19:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	prolly a good idea.
Feb 05 19:09:03 <Ukyo>	thats alright, just wanted to give it a little something for now.
Feb 05 19:09:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00068646 = 3.3293 BTC [+]
Feb 05 19:10:14 <Namworld>	Well people can place bids while waiting. Since you can use the same funds on multiple bids on BTCT.co
Feb 05 19:12:41 <mjr__>	hey jurov
Feb 05 19:12:43 <mjr__>	are you here?
Feb 05 19:12:53 <jurov>	yes
Feb 05 19:13:05 <mjr__>	cool, i transferred some btc over to coinbr
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Feb 05 19:13:24 <mjr__>	would it be too much trouble to get it in before the second block of shares is released?
Feb 05 19:13:32 <mjr__>	i mean of course after it is verified
Feb 05 19:13:38 <mjr__>	if it is, i understand
Feb 05 19:13:39 <jurov>	*poitns to the queue*
Feb 05 19:13:59 <Bugpowder>	The fifth block is gonna have to sell at .0046 again
Feb 05 19:14:06 <mjr__>	where is the queue?
Feb 05 19:14:23 <jurov>	just joking, it's not a problem atm
Feb 05 19:14:41 <jurov>	maybe i already processed you if your tx is confirmed
Feb 05 19:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Feb 05 19:15:22 <gribble>	Time since last block: 21 minutes and 6 seconds
Feb 05 19:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 05 19:15:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.75000, Best ask: 20.77999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 20.77999, 24 hour volume: 29165.33433872, 24 hour low: 20.20000, 24 hour high: 20.79000, 24 hour vwap: 20.57350
Feb 05 19:17:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Feb 05 19:17:52 <error4733>	@bug, i saw 0.0028
Feb 05 19:18:16 <error4733>	or mabye 0.00058
Feb 05 19:18:22 <error4733>	0.0008
Feb 05 19:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00068748 = 5.2936 BTC [+]
Feb 05 19:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00068936 = 2.2749 BTC [+]
Feb 05 19:18:40 <error4733>	we can troll all the night
Feb 05 19:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00068646 = 1.9564 BTC [-]
Feb 05 19:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3443 @ 0.00066987 = 2.3064 BTC [-]
Feb 05 19:24:14 <Ukyo>	at this rate
Feb 05 19:24:21 <Ukyo>	shares will not sell at 0.0055
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Feb 05 19:24:30 <Ukyo>	will be at 0.0065+
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Feb 05 19:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	this is the best way tho, let market decide.
Feb 05 19:27:54 <truffles>	why cant market decide 0.001
Feb 05 19:28:19 <Namworld>	market hates you
Feb 05 19:28:38 <truffles>	its fine i dont have a place in my heart for it
Feb 05 19:30:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13307 @ 0.00066987 = 8.914 BTC [-]
Feb 05 19:30:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8493 @ 0.00066962 = 5.6871 BTC [-]
Feb 05 19:31:15 <pigeons>	maybe i'll sit this one out
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Feb 05 19:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00068865 = 1.3773 BTC [+]
Feb 05 19:38:55 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138047.msg1505179#msg1505179
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Feb 05 19:47:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00067717 = 12.8662 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 19:52:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 3 @ 0.5198 = 1.5594 BTC [+]
Feb 05 19:54:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00652743 = 5.2219 BTC [-]
Feb 05 19:55:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1211 BTC [+]
Feb 05 19:55:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.735 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 19:55:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1212 BTC [+]
Feb 05 19:57:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]
Feb 05 19:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/lets-understand-mutual-betting-together/
Feb 05 19:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	and also for the lulz http://rt.com/usa/news/doj-sp-us-rating-497/
Feb 05 20:03:45 <pigeons>	fucking romanians: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141311.0;all
Feb 05 20:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	Text: The Unit what we offer to You contains
Feb 05 20:04:13 <mircea_popescu>	clear scam.
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Feb 05 20:10:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3131 @ 0.00067717 = 2.1202 BTC [-]
Feb 05 20:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14333 @ 0.00066962 = 9.5977 BTC [-]
Feb 05 20:12:08 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: will you ever allow public voting rights for mpoe common stock or do you have another administration in mind?
Feb 05 20:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 05 20:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	voting has no use, place or value in btc.
Feb 05 20:13:03 <thestringpuller>	why not? what if investors want operating control as a part of their investment.
Feb 05 20:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	btc is not based on imposing control.
Feb 05 20:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	btc is a voluntary system.
Feb 05 20:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	people can want whatever they want to want, but they will always get what the system is designed to give.
Feb 05 20:14:10 <thestringpuller>	one could say the same linux or other contributions but ultimately you control which patches go into mpex
Feb 05 20:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	that has nothing to do with anything.
Feb 05 20:14:27 <thestringpuller>	why not?
Feb 05 20:14:35 <mircea_popescu>	you will never be able to control what the asset owner does.
Feb 05 20:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	if you can persuade them, fine
Feb 05 20:14:39 <pigeons>	stop making me agree with mircea_popescu
Feb 05 20:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	if you can't, you don't have a point.
Feb 05 20:14:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00067752 = 0.6917 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11080 @ 0.00067777 = 7.5097 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:15:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.735 = 6.615 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:15:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.749 = 4.494 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:15:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7525 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:15:40 <thestringpuller>	that sounds like something kanye would say...
Feb 05 20:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	who's that ?
Feb 05 20:16:02 <Bugpowder>	Lol
Feb 05 20:16:19 <thestringpuller>	your model of control is similar to someone else that recently ipo'ed
Feb 05 20:16:25 <thestringpuller>	facebook...
Feb 05 20:16:26 <Bugpowder>	Imma let u finish...
Feb 05 20:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see the similarity to fb ?
Feb 05 20:16:55 <Bugpowder>	Facebook is a textbook example of perfect IPO
Feb 05 20:17:05 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder nah, it oversold. way, way oversold.
Feb 05 20:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	shittiest ipo in history.
Feb 05 20:17:15 <Bugpowder>	Maximized The money
Feb 05 20:17:17 <thestringpuller>	mark zukcerberg will always have majority control of the company
Feb 05 20:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	that's not good.
Feb 05 20:17:27 <Bugpowder>	It is good for fb
Feb 05 20:17:35 <Bugpowder>	Not for underwriters
Feb 05 20:17:39 <thestringpuller>	he owns a separate type of stock that gives him 4x more voting power
Feb 05 20:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	nope. it's good for a few investment bankers and maybe zuckerberg
Feb 05 20:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	problem is they made hot money, which will likely killthem
Feb 05 20:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	but for fb, it is horrid.
Feb 05 20:17:56 <Bugpowder>	Disagree
Feb 05 20:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	no company ever survives an oversold ipo
Feb 05 20:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	it hasn't happened yet.
Feb 05 20:18:16 <thestringpuller>	FB will be the first.
Feb 05 20:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's better to undersell it, that you can survive.
Feb 05 20:19:02 <Bugpowder>	Agree for vc rounds
Feb 05 20:19:05 <Bugpowder>	Not IPO
Feb 05 20:19:07 <thestringpuller>	my point though was that no matter how much common stock you issue
Feb 05 20:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	well, these are points that will be argued for eons to come.
Feb 05 20:19:23 <thestringpuller>	you will have complete control of mpex direction
Feb 05 20:19:43 <Bugpowder>	Did s.bbet get oversold?
Feb 05 20:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller yeah. untill i sell the golden share i will.
Feb 05 20:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i have no idea. i think prolly not.
Feb 05 20:19:55 <thestringpuller>	what golden share?
Feb 05 20:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	well it's what it is, practically. whoever is owner has 50% + the voting share.
Feb 05 20:20:40 <thestringpuller>	like the willy wonka golden ticket? do i get to visit the mpex factory too?
Feb 05 20:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Feb 05 20:24:48 <thestringpuller>	mpex does offer more freedom than most exchanges
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Feb 05 20:27:10 *	Ukyo sees a reference of mpex && willy wonka factory and has to read up now
Feb 05 20:27:30 <thestringpuller>	I'm glad my joke was well taken.
Feb 05 20:28:33 *	truffles wants to try everlasting gum
Feb 05 20:30:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.745 = 7.45 BTC [-]
Feb 05 20:30:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:30:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.7525 = 2.2575 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:30:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7549 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:30:43 *	Ukyo should issue 100,0000,000 bitfunder golden tickets >,>
Feb 05 20:30:55 <Ukyo>	naaah. I'll wait until I get some good vol on BF first
Feb 05 20:30:55 <Ukyo>	;)
Feb 05 20:31:09 <Ukyo>	should list it on MPEX out of amusement
Feb 05 20:31:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067109 = 2.8998 BTC [-]
Feb 05 20:31:31 <Ukyo>	see if other exchanges do a PT >:D
Feb 05 20:32:07 <truffles>	how many total exchanges?
Feb 05 20:32:15 <Ukyo>	how many stars are there?
Feb 05 20:32:23 <Ukyo>	everyone has an exchange nowdays
Feb 05 20:32:26 <truffles>	no way
Feb 05 20:32:34 <Ukyo>	i dunno.. 6? 8?
Feb 05 20:32:38 <Ukyo>	depends on how you define exchange
Feb 05 20:32:39 <truffles>	oh lol
Feb 05 20:32:47 <truffles>	was gonna say no way theyre all legit
Feb 05 20:32:48 <Ukyo>	do you include colored coins ?
Feb 05 20:32:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol pt to bf's listing on mpex ?
Feb 05 20:33:05 <Ukyo>	mircea_popescu: jsut sidce
Feb 05 20:33:12 <Ukyo>	terra has a bbet one that hasnt been enabled yet
Feb 05 20:33:17 <Ukyo>	was debating mpoe myself
Feb 05 20:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	no i meant, you lisrt bf on mpex end up with pt's on btct or w./e
Feb 05 20:33:34 <Ukyo>	was just laughing in amusment of the idea of listing BF on mpex, and then other exchanges doing a PT supporting it. LOL
Feb 05 20:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 05 20:33:41 <Ukyo>	yeah
Feb 05 20:33:45 <Ukyo>	how funny would that be
Feb 05 20:33:45 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 05 20:33:56 <Ukyo>	going through one exchange, to PT to otherse
Feb 05 20:33:57 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 05 20:34:04 <Ukyo>	FROM an exchange
Feb 05 20:34:21 <Ukyo>	BF has had a good intake the last 30days
Feb 05 20:34:33 <truffles>	bf boyfriend to pt personal tanner?
Feb 05 20:34:45 <pigeons>	pt poon tang
Feb 05 20:34:47 <Ukyo>	You have issues. :P
Feb 05 20:35:17 <jurov>	Ukyo had good intake
Feb 05 20:35:38 <truffles>	thats a good one
Feb 05 20:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128223577335.jpg
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Feb 05 20:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	she has even better intake
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Feb 05 20:37:45 <mjr_>	hi all
Feb 05 20:38:01 <truffles>	that looks tiny
Feb 05 20:38:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8291 @ 0.00067107 = 5.5638 BTC [-]
Feb 05 20:38:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.bitcoinforum.com/mining-discussion/107-units-with-85-ghs-are-ready-for-shipping/
Feb 05 20:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2488 @ 0.00067777 = 1.6863 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8221 @ 0.00068017 = 5.5917 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	this shit's so funny.
Feb 05 20:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	truffles the guy ? yeah.
Feb 05 20:38:27 <mjr_>	finally got some MPOE mircea
Feb 05 20:38:43 <rdponticelli>	mircea_popescu: Would it be possible, (and desirable from your pov) to include something like 'STAT|S.MPOE' to the exchange?
Feb 05 20:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	it's been being discussed so to speak.
Feb 05 20:39:44 <rdponticelli>	Nice
Feb 05 20:39:46 <mircea_popescu>	what utility to you see for it ?
Feb 05 20:40:09 <rdponticelli>	It would be handy for brokers
Feb 05 20:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	yeah,
Feb 05 20:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	the original concept would be that somebody would be making a verify-only account
Feb 05 20:40:28 <mjr_>	would it be a stat for mpoe (what is mpoe's bid ask last) or a stat for you, relating to mpoe (how many shares, avg price)
Feb 05 20:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	as a sort of escrow of sorts
Feb 05 20:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	people could push assets to it, it'd get a stat and push them back
Feb 05 20:40:45 <mircea_popescu>	sort of like a 3rd party service
Feb 05 20:40:55 <mircea_popescu>	that was the concept, back whenever, spring 2012.
Feb 05 20:41:16 <jborkl_>	They need to mispell customers as costumers to make the scan legit
Feb 05 20:41:19 <rdponticelli>	Nice concept
Feb 05 20:41:25 <jborkl_>	Scam
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Feb 05 20:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	now, it hasn't happened yet, i'm either way about whether it should be fixed forcibly
Feb 05 20:42:09 <rdponticelli>	Well, I'm sure you'll come up with the best possible way ;)
Feb 05 20:42:22 <jurov>	oh and i just remembered the open interest request for options
Feb 05 20:42:30 <mircea_popescu>	but i thought originally this "problem" (ie, no single stock stat) would allow a nice niche for a sort of s&p, moody, fitch equuivalent to fill and grow
Feb 05 20:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	my primary goal is to build a btc finance space, and so there's all sorts of "broken" things like that deliberately to let people solve problems and grow an ecosystem
Feb 05 20:43:25 <rdponticelli>	Yeah, it's ok
Feb 05 20:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	but that aside, it IS starting to become a problem, so...
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Feb 05 20:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	still waffling on the subject.
Feb 05 20:43:45 <rdponticelli>	Just put strong fundations, and let people build over it
Feb 05 20:44:11 <mjr_>	i'm glad you are leaving lots of room for creativity
Feb 05 20:44:17 <mjr_>	i think it will grow very nicely
Feb 05 20:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067987 = 2.9377 BTC [-]
Feb 05 20:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3729 @ 0.00068017 = 2.5364 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:44:23 <mircea_popescu>	so far indeed it has,
Feb 05 20:44:33 <mircea_popescu>	and a lot of people have been putting in a lot of work, learning a lot in the process
Feb 05 20:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	and amassing a lot of valuable knowledge/experience
Feb 05 20:44:44 <mjr_>	i was thinking that the guy who created coinsforpizza should start something similar for freshdirect
Feb 05 20:44:54 <mjr_>	to finally answer the "can i buy groceries with it" question
Feb 05 20:45:03 <mjr_>	since pizza was a great first step
Feb 05 20:45:08 <mircea_popescu>	somebody was complaining to me that they can't buy anon
Feb 05 20:45:22 <mjr_>	huh? on that site?
Feb 05 20:45:25 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Feb 05 20:45:28 <mjr_>	how would they deliver it?
Feb 05 20:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea.
Feb 05 20:45:38 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, can mpoe report open interest? i think it's just counting all extant options
Feb 05 20:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	was kinda funny concept to me :D
Feb 05 20:45:49 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 05 20:45:53 <mjr_>	ninja turtles style lol
Feb 05 20:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it could but it doesn't want to.
Feb 05 20:46:02 <jurov>	why?
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Feb 05 20:46:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00068017 = 5.2373 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 20:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	well, because everyone is already fully covered, so it's not a matter of evaluating cp risk that'd be helped
Feb 05 20:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	and i don't want to provide the momentum trading signal.
Feb 05 20:46:45 <mjr_>	that's the thing too, i really think that people have to see it as a tool, you can use cash anonymously in the real world, but you could also use cash in a very open way.
Feb 05 20:48:08 <mjr_>	jurov: one more question
Feb 05 20:48:36 <mjr_>	do you need collateral to buy an option? or was that requirement just for selling them?
Feb 05 20:49:00 <jurov>	it's needed only for creating them. that's different from buying
Feb 05 20:49:41 <jurov>	so far i'm doing creating by MKOPT/SPLIT manually on request, there wasn't much interest
Feb 05 20:50:19 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ collateral to buy an option ? no, you don't you can't lose anything by buying one.
Feb 05 20:51:56 <mjr_>	that is what i figured
Feb 05 20:52:15 <mjr_>	but i was just checking, because i thought people were saying you needed collateral in all cases
Feb 05 20:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	nah, only if you sell em.
Feb 05 20:52:32 *	Ukyo pokes topace_ 
Feb 05 20:52:35 <Ukyo>	you alive bud?
Feb 05 20:52:40 <mjr_>	and upon expiration, you just do a bitcoin settlement...is that automatic?
Feb 05 20:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	ywa
Feb 05 20:52:51 <mjr_>	cool cool
Feb 05 20:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	you can exercise them manually too
Feb 05 20:53:18 <Ukyo>	exercise? whats that? >,>
Feb 05 20:53:26 <jurov>	make them expire
Feb 05 20:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	when you get out of the chair and move around Ukto
Feb 05 20:53:36 *	Ukyo deesnt believe in manual exercise :P
Feb 05 20:53:38 <jurov>	usually when price is favorable
Feb 05 20:53:41 <Ukyo>	mp lol
Feb 05 20:53:47 <jurov>	heh
Feb 05 20:54:01 <Ukyo>	jurov: c'mon, I was obviously kididng :)
Feb 05 20:54:36 <mjr_>	yeah, i saw the exercise option
Feb 05 20:54:38 <jurov>	now you try to cover. but i know
Feb 05 20:54:47 <Ukyo>	LOL
Feb 05 20:56:09 <mjr_>	jurov: approximately how fast do the orders make it to MPEX?
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Feb 05 20:56:30 <mjr_>	is that manual or automatic?
Feb 05 20:56:44 <jurov>	you're kidding me
Feb 05 20:56:47 <jurov>	or?
Feb 05 20:57:40 <mjr_>	sorry i didn't watch last time
Feb 05 20:58:08 <jurov>	i've hired a small army of indians that compose orders and parse STAT responses
Feb 05 20:58:12 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 05 20:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067106 = 2.8997 BTC [-]
Feb 05 20:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5879 @ 0.00067075 = 3.9433 BTC [-]
Feb 05 20:58:27 <mjr_>	hehehe
Feb 05 20:58:33 <mjr_>	thought you had computer minions
Feb 05 20:59:02 <Ukyo>	indians ? pfft they cost too much
Feb 05 20:59:15 <Ukyo>	I have oompaloompas.
Feb 05 20:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	slavegirls ftw.
Feb 05 20:59:18 <Ukyo>	I pay them in chocolate.
Feb 05 20:59:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's how i run mpex.
Feb 05 20:59:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067987 = 2.9377 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	the entire server stuff is just a front. they do it on abacuses
Feb 05 20:59:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 429 @ 0.00067995 = 0.2917 BTC [+]
Feb 05 20:59:36 <Ukyo>	mircea_popescu: I could tell from the pic of you with the cane, and the girls with marks :P
Feb 05 20:59:41 <jurov>	suspected so much
Feb 05 20:59:48 <mjr_>	i was just checking, cuz i don't want to just keep canceling if it makes you have to reenter orders
Feb 05 20:59:48 <mircea_popescu>	marks look good on girl butt.
Feb 05 20:59:52 <Ukyo>	btw, are you a pimp out there?
Feb 05 20:59:55 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 05 21:00:05 <mircea_popescu>	im just an efficient educator.
Feb 05 21:00:12 <Ukyo>	LOL
Feb 05 21:00:54 <truffles>	pretty questionable i must say
Feb 05 21:01:46 <truffles>	i wonder if they knew theyd be on display hmm
Feb 05 21:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	yup.
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Feb 05 21:03:14 <truffles>	it was u with the small pecker i knew it
Feb 05 21:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	haha nah, that's not me
Feb 05 21:03:35 <truffles>	sure sure
Feb 05 21:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	actually that guy is kinda famous tho his name escapes me atm
Feb 05 21:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	but he's done a buncha stuff with acworth
Feb 05 21:04:13 <truffles>	must be doing well if small peckers gets him action like that
Feb 05 21:05:36 <mjr_>	i'm thinking of ordering dominos just to use coinsforpizza...
Feb 05 21:06:01 <truffles>	i just had pizza
Feb 05 21:06:25 <truffles>	ive had/made better
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Feb 05 21:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10325 @ 0.00067374 = 6.9564 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:08:51 <Bowjob>	lless than an hour now
Feb 05 21:09:06 <truffles>	what goes on then
Feb 05 21:09:24 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 05 21:10:15 <truffles>	the plummeting of btc commences?
Feb 05 21:10:23 <Bowjob>	dice shares
Feb 05 21:10:24 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 21:11:07 <truffles>	oh and i was just about to leave that wouldve been bad
Feb 05 21:11:12 <mjr_>	hehehe
Feb 05 21:11:44 <mircea_popescu>	llticker
Feb 05 21:11:45 <mircea_popescu>	bah
Feb 05 21:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 05 21:11:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.70104, Best ask: 20.71000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00896, Last trade: 20.71000, 24 hour volume: 28227.91403729, 24 hour low: 20.20000, 24 hour high: 20.86300, 24 hour vwap: 20.58707
Feb 05 21:12:42 <mjr_>	new daily high
Feb 05 21:12:46 <truffles>	i have a general idea of how this works but still clueless sigh
Feb 05 21:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	takes time.
Feb 05 21:14:16 <truffles>	a few utubes kinda did esp the long super techy one (that i didnt get)
Feb 05 21:14:28 <truffles>	but these channels add all the terms ..
Feb 05 21:14:51 <mjr_>	i used bitinstant today...
Feb 05 21:14:59 <Namworld>	I thought evoorhees would have spaced slices more
Feb 05 21:15:01 <mjr_>	i gotta say i appreciate the service
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Feb 05 21:15:09 <mjr_>	but wow those are high fees
Feb 05 21:15:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.0059 = 2.655 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:15:21 <truffles>	thought bitcoins didnt have fees?
Feb 05 21:15:29 <truffles>	quasi banking going on
Feb 05 21:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067109 = 2.8998 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 529 @ 0.00067075 = 0.3548 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	truffles why did you think that ?
Feb 05 21:17:35 <truffles>	cuz u can mine it for free and thats the impression i got
Feb 05 21:17:35 <Ukyo>	Namworld: hehe, having trouble coming up with fund fast enough? lol
Feb 05 21:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	truffles it's a false impression tho. all transactions large enough or out of fresh enugh inputs carry  fee.
Feb 05 21:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	it's to tjhe tune of 0.0005 btc, which is very small
Feb 05 21:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	but fees there are, built into the system
Feb 05 21:18:59 <truffles>	adds up though
Feb 05 21:19:19 <truffles>	rather put it in savings acct..
Feb 05 21:19:35 <pigeons>	you have a savings account with no fees?
Feb 05 21:19:46 <truffles>	it pays interest
Feb 05 21:20:09 <Guest13272>	does it now
Feb 05 21:20:11 <truffles>	small potatoes ldo
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Feb 05 21:20:52 <truffles>	bitcoins pay interest or dividends?
Feb 05 21:21:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.0057 = 4.56 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:21:01 <mjr_>	huh?
Feb 05 21:21:10 <mjr_>	neither really
Feb 05 21:21:21 <mjr_>	they can appreciate in relation to another currency
Feb 05 21:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoin.org/ luke got booted off the list ?
Feb 05 21:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	or am i imagining things ?
Feb 05 21:21:42 <truffles>	oh tied to fiat how nice
Feb 05 21:22:02 <mjr_>	but they themselves don't give either...you could invest in a bond like namworld's and get interest, or you could invest in a stock like S.DICE which offers dividends
Feb 05 21:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00561 = 8.415 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:22:21 <mjr_>	i mean, the only way to measure the appreciation is against something else
Feb 05 21:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	that's always the case.
Feb 05 21:22:31 <mjr_>	1 bitcoin is always 1 bitcoin
Feb 05 21:22:46 <mjr_>	not tied to fiat
Feb 05 21:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1698 @ 0.00556001 = 9.4409 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:24:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.001101 = 0.5505 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:25:06 <truffles>	its too cosy though
Feb 05 21:25:21 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 05 21:25:25 <mjr_>	i just got filled on S.DICE
Feb 05 21:26:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00067075 = 1.4421 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/ojApgSB.jpg
Feb 05 21:26:22 <Ukyo>	lol
Feb 05 21:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	i don't know much about electronics, but anyone explain what the top chip is ?
Feb 05 21:26:33 <Ukyo>	u making asics now MP ?
Feb 05 21:26:49 <Ukyo>	the big black swuare next to the power?
Feb 05 21:26:49 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: the markings are scraped off
Feb 05 21:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	gesell i can see that.
Feb 05 21:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	par for the course for bfl by now
Feb 05 21:27:03 <Ukyo>	oh, its a bfl board
Feb 05 21:27:08 <gesell>	but based on the design i would guess a processor to manage the array of whatever chips are missing
Feb 05 21:27:17 <Ukyo>	did BFL make some announcement?
Feb 05 21:27:23 <Ukyo>	i have been hiding in code for hours
Feb 05 21:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	Ukyo yea
Feb 05 21:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8442 @ 0.00067075 = 5.6625 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:27:47 <gesell>	was allso looking at the booard a while back
Feb 05 21:27:47 <jurov>	there's arm processor socket on lower left
Feb 05 21:27:51 <gesell>	not sure what to  make of it
Feb 05 21:27:53 <gesell>	yeah,  exactly
Feb 05 21:27:57 <gesell>	the arm socket throws me off
Feb 05 21:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	gesell what gets me is that it's oriented AGAINST the missing chips
Feb 05 21:28:09 <Ukyo>	forum url ?
Feb 05 21:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	which seems weird
Feb 05 21:28:11 <mircea_popescu>	does it ?
Feb 05 21:28:12 <Bugpowduur>	mjr_: someone is a bit optimistic about that arb opp
Feb 05 21:28:15 <truffles>	pretty compact design whomever done it
Feb 05 21:28:25 <Ukyo>	at least they are using solid state caps :P
Feb 05 21:29:00 <gesell>	but the FTDI chip for USB to Serial is common for communicating with microelectronics (see an old arduino) so its placement close to U11 (the largger unmarked chip) makes me think this would be the cpu are, but who knows
Feb 05 21:29:25 <mjr_>	oh yeah, do you guys think fpga's will still be useful?
Feb 05 21:29:30 <Diablo-D3>	gesell: we talking the avalon?
Feb 05 21:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ for a while yet
Feb 05 21:29:44 <Diablo-D3>	didnt they just rip a MIPS board out of a wifi AP?
Feb 05 21:30:07 <truffles>	there should be a countdown clock on this next wave
Feb 05 21:30:08 <jurov>	Diablo-D3: no we're talking this http://i.imgur.com/ojApgSB.jpg
Feb 05 21:30:33 <Diablo-D3>	oh, the never shipping bfl board??
Feb 05 21:30:43 <Diablo-D3>	also, lol Puppet tried to attack me in the asicminer thread
Feb 05 21:30:51 <Diablo-D3>	because I stood up for jgzarik as being legit
Feb 05 21:31:05 <jurov>	truffles, erik did not say 10pm exactly. just around
Feb 05 21:31:31 <truffles>	i wanna watch it unfold but im getting impatient lol
Feb 05 21:31:35 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: btw, the biggest chip? its probably a hardcopy babysitter design
Feb 05 21:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://jheusser.github.com/2013/02/03/satcoin.html
Feb 05 21:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda interesting
Feb 05 21:32:23 <mircea_popescu>	heuristic mining
Feb 05 21:32:26 <gesell>	indeed
Feb 05 21:32:28 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if it will ever come to anything
Feb 05 21:32:40 <Bugpowduur>	yah
Feb 05 21:32:47 <Bugpowduur>	but its super slow
Feb 05 21:32:58 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: sat solving is very hard with sha256 or any decent hash
Feb 05 21:33:08 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: we already skip as many steps as possible
Feb 05 21:33:21 <jurov>	yes, my thought is BNF is too big and won't fit to GPU
Feb 05 21:33:38 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: like, you know how we check H==0? thats actually a form of very basic sat solving
Feb 05 21:33:47 <Diablo-D3>	tuned for the native integer width of the hardware
Feb 05 21:34:11 <Diablo-D3>	I already looked into this about a year ago, couldnt get anywhere with it because GPUs dont have native booleans
Feb 05 21:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	well, right. but you never know what someone comes up with
Feb 05 21:35:14 <Bugpowduur>	The BFL board IS much prettier than the avalon board
Feb 05 21:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 05 21:35:31 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowduur: I dunno, I think the avalon board is a work of art
Feb 05 21:35:32 <Bugpowduur>	but... with that first mover reward structure....  ugly wins
Feb 05 21:35:37 <mircea_popescu>	a tractor versus a porsche
Feb 05 21:35:41 <Diablo-D3>	everything is in the right place, and it has proper cooling
Feb 05 21:35:57 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, what in holy fuck was wrong with BFL when they chose those coolers?
Feb 05 21:36:08 <Diablo-D3>	instead of straight through airflow, it slams against the board causing hot spots
Feb 05 21:36:43 <Diablo-D3>	(or if they have the fan reversed, it STILL causes hot spots)
Feb 05 21:36:58 <Diablo-D3>	trying to work around it with a off the shelf heatpipe heatsink doesnt fix it
Feb 05 21:37:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5958 @ 0.00066966 = 3.9898 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067344 = 2.9099 BTC [+]
Feb 05 21:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10725 @ 0.00067374 = 7.2259 BTC [+]
Feb 05 21:37:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 496 @ 0.00067634 = 0.3355 BTC [+]
Feb 05 21:37:47 <mjr_>	when did bfl release?
Feb 05 21:38:17 <Diablo-D3>	mjr_: they released fpgas, not asics
Feb 05 21:38:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 12 @ 0.10495925 = 1.2595 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:39:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://bbs.btcman.com/data/attachment/forum/201302/05/172040xjxbedt1z4tjznd3.jpg
Feb 05 21:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	i can't believe this stuff
Feb 05 21:39:21 <mircea_popescu>	the avalon chips actualyl have no radiators AT ALL ?
Feb 05 21:39:29 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no no, they do
Feb 05 21:39:34 <Bugpowduur>	well, I will defer to your judgement Diablo-D3
Feb 05 21:39:34 <Diablo-D3>	look at the rev 3 fpgas
Feb 05 21:39:36 <mircea_popescu>	o, guy took them off
Feb 05 21:39:47 <Diablo-D3>	the asics will be identical in design to those
Feb 05 21:40:17 <Diablo-D3>	sticky aluminum heatsinks on the shit the heatpipe doesnt cover, and the folded heatpipe design on the asics
Feb 05 21:40:38 <Diablo-D3>	oh
Feb 05 21:40:40 <Diablo-D3>	you said avalon
Feb 05 21:40:41 <Diablo-D3>	sorry
Feb 05 21:40:58 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: look how the board is assembled
Feb 05 21:41:07 <Diablo-D3>	the board is pressed into a giant industrial heatsink
Feb 05 21:41:20 <Diablo-D3>	most likely those are flip chip packages, so the heat is actually facing into the board
Feb 05 21:41:31 <Diablo-D3>	they probly have an extra thick copper grounding plane in the board
Feb 05 21:41:39 <Diablo-D3>	which radiates heat out the other side of the board
Feb 05 21:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Feb 05 21:41:50 <Diablo-D3>	the other side is probably smooth as a baby's ass
Feb 05 21:41:58 <Diablo-D3>	so they coated it in non-conducting ceramic paste
Feb 05 21:42:04 <Diablo-D3>	and then sealed the heatsink into it
Feb 05 21:42:39 <Diablo-D3>	the VRMs they use dont need heatsinks as they're probably 120c industrial/enterprise grade VRMs
Feb 05 21:42:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00616012 = 10.7802 BTC [+]
Feb 05 21:42:57 <Diablo-D3>	and probably overkill for what they need
Feb 05 21:43:14 <Diablo-D3>	and those caps are probably there to make sure flip/flop power usage doesnt kill the VRM
Feb 05 21:44:05 <Namworld>	Any LTC-GLOBAL shareholders in here having reviewed one of the MPEx pass-throughs with a NO/ABSTAIN, requesting more information?
Feb 05 21:44:58 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: without having the board infront of me and a full suite of electrical diagnostic tools, Im going to have to say they did the right thing
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Feb 05 21:45:18 <Bugpowduur>	hehehe
Feb 05 21:45:21 <Bugpowduur>	heyyoo
Feb 05 21:45:27 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: oh, and btw, look closely
Feb 05 21:45:32 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I thought it was A board, its not
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Feb 05 21:45:35 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: its a bunch of tiny boards
Feb 05 21:45:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: thats really clever of them
Feb 05 21:45:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3504 @ 0.00067634 = 2.3699 BTC [+]
Feb 05 21:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11871 @ 0.00067995 = 8.0717 BTC [+]
Feb 05 21:45:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00068017 = 1.0883 BTC [+]
Feb 05 21:45:52 <Diablo-D3>	even if a single shard fails, you can take it out and replace it
Feb 05 21:45:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7075 @ 0.0006823 = 4.8273 BTC [+]
Feb 05 21:45:57 <[\\\]>	Wanna see something cool?
Feb 05 21:46:07 <[\\\]>	visit http://blockchain.info/charts and they will ip ban you
Feb 05 21:46:12 <[\\\]>	'too many requests'
Feb 05 21:46:20 <[\\\]>	only its their own page making all of the requests.
Feb 05 21:46:27 <Ukyo>	lol
Feb 05 21:46:59 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: the BFL design is atrocious though
Feb 05 21:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] i got universal unlimited blockchain access so nyah
Feb 05 21:47:30 <topace_>	[20:52:32] Ukyo pokes topace_
Feb 05 21:47:31 <topace_>	i am now?
Feb 05 21:48:12 <topace_>	Ukto: whatsup?
Feb 05 21:48:14 <error4733>	Hey Evoorhees. Popcorn is ready ! Up to you
Feb 05 21:48:29 <Diablo-D3>	so has someone started an evoorhees scam thread yet?
Feb 05 21:48:29 <evoorhees>	hey guys
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Feb 05 21:49:45 *	mircea_popescu turns off mpex website in an attempt to emulate avalon performances.
Feb 05 21:50:19 <leotreasure>	lol
Feb 05 21:50:23 <jurov>	ftfy: mircea_popescu turns off mpex website in an attempt to emulate mtgox performances.
Feb 05 21:50:29 <Bugpowduur>	countdown?
Feb 05 21:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	jurov all the performances are belong to us
Feb 05 21:50:44 <evoorhees>	I have 9:50pm here
Feb 05 21:50:46 <evoorhees>	that about right?
Feb 05 21:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	omg scamtime
Feb 05 21:50:53 <leotreasure>	i managed to get 15 minutes off class time for this tranche :)
Feb 05 21:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	its 9:51
Feb 05 21:51:19 <jurov>	mircea_popescu:  all deposits in place?
Feb 05 21:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	afaik.
Feb 05 21:51:25 <jurov>	heeeee?
Feb 05 21:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	lets check
Feb 05 21:51:39 <topace_>	so is everyone going to place their bids last minute?
Feb 05 21:51:47 <Bugpowduur>	no
Feb 05 21:51:49 <Bugpowduur>	last second
Feb 05 21:51:50 <evoorhees>	this should be interesting
Feb 05 21:51:59 <Bugpowduur>	.0072
Feb 05 21:52:01 <Bugpowduur>	1MM
Feb 05 21:52:03 <gesell>	dont forget your 00's
Feb 05 21:52:04 <topace_>	haha
Feb 05 21:52:05 <gesell>	:P
Feb 05 21:52:07 <Bugpowduur>	heheh
Feb 05 21:52:09 <Namworld>	there will be so many bids being put market price, price will skyrocket to 0.1 BTC per share
Feb 05 21:52:14 <mircea_popescu>	coupla more small ones. flushed.
Feb 05 21:52:27 <Namworld>	because people don't have time to enter a price
Feb 05 21:52:28 <Bugpowduur>	The S.BBET IPO wuz like that
Feb 05 21:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	bbet ipo was crazy
Feb 05 21:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	in a good way
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Feb 05 21:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc .1 * 100000000 * 20
Feb 05 21:54:41 <gribble>	200000000
Feb 05 21:55:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006698 = 2.8942 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:55:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7329 @ 0.00066962 = 4.9076 BTC [-]
Feb 05 21:55:34 <mjr_>	someone is trying to scoop up the market orders after it runs out :) smart
Feb 05 21:58:07 <jurov>	!ticker m s,dice
Feb 05 21:58:08 <assbot>	The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy.
Feb 05 21:58:12 <jurov>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 05 21:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00452317 / 0.00739497 (1021741 shares, 4,621.51 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00561656 / 0.007395 (1692417 shares, 9,505.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00508378 / 0.0075 (6874086 shares, 34,946.35 BTC)
Feb 05 21:59:57 <Bowjob>	live
Feb 05 21:59:58 <evoorhees>	ready?!?!?!?!?!
Feb 05 21:59:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol book still untouched
Feb 05 22:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00580001 = 11.6 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:36 <Bowjob>	Go!!
Feb 05 22:00:38 <Bowjob>	go go go !
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Feb 05 22:00:40 <Bowjob>	I'm ready !
Feb 05 22:00:43 <Bugpowduur>	go
Feb 05 22:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350000 @ 0.00589001 = 2061.5035 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:00:48 <jurov>	o/
Feb 05 22:00:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5900 @ 0.00580001 = 34.2201 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 46800 @ 0.005708 = 267.1344 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 237000 @ 0.0057 = 1350.9 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:50 <Bowjob>	James, I hope you're ready!
Feb 05 22:00:50 <jurov>	\o
Feb 05 22:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 45354 @ 0.005623 = 255.0255 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.00557 = 557 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.0055601 = 11.6762 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00556002 = 5.56 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:56 <jurov>	\o/
Feb 05 22:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11802 @ 0.00556001 = 65.6192 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 175 @ 0.00556 = 0.973 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 360 @ 0.00556 = 2.0016 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:00:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 271 @ 0.00555 = 1.5041 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00552012 = 7.7282 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 39144 @ 0.005515 = 215.8792 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00551002 = 5.51 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 14000 @ 0.00550002 = 77.0003 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:05 <error4733>	106k left
Feb 05 22:01:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00550001 = 11 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 535 @ 0.0055 = 2.9425 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 416 @ 0.0055 = 2.288 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0055 = 27.5 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8655 @ 0.0055 = 47.6025 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8385 @ 0.0055 = 46.1175 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.0055 = 15.4 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4050 @ 0.0055 = 22.275 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4120 @ 0.0055 = 22.66 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.0055 = 110 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 86125 @ 0.0055 = 473.6875 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	lmao this was quick
Feb 05 22:01:27 <Bugpowduur>	damn
Feb 05 22:01:29 <Bugpowduur>	I overpaid
Feb 05 22:01:32 <maximian>	LOL
Feb 05 22:01:37 <kakobrekla>	400k left
Feb 05 22:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	was like... 20 seconds or so ?
Feb 05 22:01:40 <Bowjob>	Lol
Feb 05 22:01:44 <Bowjob>	topace!!
Feb 05 22:01:47 <topace_>	booya
Feb 05 22:01:49 <evoorhees>	wow
Feb 05 22:01:56 <mircea_popescu>	meet the power that be.
Feb 05 22:01:56 <Bowjob>	Ho much did you get
Feb 05 22:01:56 <Bowjob>	?
Feb 05 22:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dicer
Feb 05 22:02:03 <topace_>	Bowjob: 120000
Feb 05 22:02:03 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Feb 05 22:02:05 <Bowjob>	I'll drop more
Feb 05 22:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 05 22:02:06 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00511066 / 0.00739497 (2023741 shares, 10,342.67 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00565121 / 0.007395 (2694417 shares, 15,226.72 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00516341 / 0.0075 (7876086 shares, 40,667.50 BTC)
Feb 05 22:02:15 <Bowjob>	so 120 shares?
Feb 05 22:02:19 <gesell>	okay, im going to go open a complain thread on reddit
Feb 05 22:02:24 <topace_>	1200 shares
Feb 05 22:02:27 <Bowjob>	oh
Feb 05 22:02:28 <Bowjob>	kk
Feb 05 22:02:28 <gesell>	just have to think about what
Feb 05 22:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 10342.67 - 4621.51
Feb 05 22:02:30 <gribble>	5721.16
Feb 05 22:02:32 <Bugpowduur>	cannot fucking belive people got it at .005
Feb 05 22:02:32 <evoorhees>	lol
Feb 05 22:02:35 <Bugpowduur>	.0055
Feb 05 22:02:35 <swhitt>	412`625	0.00550000
Feb 05 22:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	this gotta be some sort of record.
Feb 05 22:02:37 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 05 22:02:37 <swhitt>	someone lost.
Feb 05 22:02:40 <Bowjob>	Sweet
Feb 05 22:02:53 <mjr_>	all gone?
Feb 05 22:02:57 <Bowjob>	gratz
Feb 05 22:03:10 <evoorhees>	that was fun :)
Feb 05 22:03:13 <mjr_>	sure was
Feb 05 22:03:16 <topace_>	and now for havelock
Feb 05 22:03:18 <Bowjob>	erik thats how you launch
Feb 05 22:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 05 22:03:23 <Bowjob>	not that surprise 0.44
Feb 05 22:03:23 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 22:03:24 <evoorhees>	yeah, that was better
Feb 05 22:03:26 <evoorhees>	 I agree
Feb 05 22:03:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.645 = 1.29 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.64 = 12.16 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.63 = 18.9 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:28 <evoorhees>	lesson learned
Feb 05 22:03:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.6205 = 8.687 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.615 = 24.6 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:30 <Bowjob>	even so i trusted you
Feb 05 22:03:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.61 = 10.37 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.606 = 1.818 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.606 = 6.06 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 60 @ 0.605 = 36.3 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 75 @ 0.6 = 45 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6 = 1.8 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 39 @ 0.59 = 23.01 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.588 = 9.996 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 86 @ 0.5801 = 49.8886 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.58 = 5.8 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.58 = 16.82 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.571 = 4.568 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 87 @ 0.5702 = 49.6074 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:45 <Bugpowduur>	oops
Feb 05 22:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	cute.
Feb 05 22:03:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5702 = 5.702 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 100 @ 0.5701 = 57.01 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5701 = 2.2804 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5701 = 5.701 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.57 = 2.85 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.57 = 5.7 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.57 = 2.85 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.567 = 5.67 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 105 @ 0.566 = 59.43 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 99 @ 0.565 = 55.935 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:03:57 <Bugpowduur>	ouch
Feb 05 22:03:58 <Namworld>	Topace, is that you doing this?
Feb 05 22:04:00 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 05 22:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.52100000 / 0.60714756 / 0.76500000 (1719 shares, 1043.68665796 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.68297815 / 0.89000000 (3601 shares, 2459.40431805 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.61700758 / 0.89000000 (7230 shares, 4460.96483598 BTC)
Feb 05 22:04:04 <Namworld>	By any chance?
Feb 05 22:04:09 <Bugpowduur>	BUY not SELL dude
Feb 05 22:04:25 <Bugpowduur>	So, whats the next tranche for?
Feb 05 22:04:30 <topace_>	just releasing the shares i bougt on mpex into havelock
Feb 05 22:04:30 <evoorhees>	not sure yet
Feb 05 22:04:33 <evoorhees>	recommendations?
Feb 05 22:04:42 <Bugpowduur>	62?
Feb 05 22:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	60something
Feb 05 22:04:46 <error4733>	62
Feb 05 22:04:47 <Bugpowduur>	64?
Feb 05 22:04:48 <mjr_>	thats what i was thinking
Feb 05 22:04:49 <jurov>	sqrt(-1)
Feb 05 22:04:51 <Namworld>	See, it's topace buying for his havelock bidders
Feb 05 22:04:51 <mjr_>	somewhere in that range
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Feb 05 22:05:08 <mjr_>	62...not sure how high you will go with the last two...
Feb 05 22:05:16 <Bugpowduur>	68
Feb 05 22:05:19 <Bugpowduur>	74
Feb 05 22:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	(0.60714756 / 0.55) *  1043
Feb 05 22:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (0.60714756 / 0.55) *  1043
Feb 05 22:05:22 <gribble>	1151.37255469
Feb 05 22:05:24 <mjr_>	that could work
Feb 05 22:05:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.565 = 4.52 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:05:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 82 @ 0.565 = 46.33 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 22:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	that's a cool 100 btc
Feb 05 22:05:41 <Bowjob>	That was quick
Feb 05 22:05:41 <mircea_popescu>	not exactly bad for staying up nights.
Feb 05 22:06:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067634 = 2.9225 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:06:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4310 @ 0.00067644 = 2.9155 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:06:31 <Bowjob>	james, anymore?
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Feb 05 22:07:42 <Namworld>	was 0.0044, then 0.0055
Feb 05 22:07:50 <Namworld>	I recommand 66, 77, 88
Feb 05 22:08:04 <Namworld>	the next one might sell fast
Feb 05 22:08:08 <Bowjob>	the 8.8 might be pushing it, but dice is up
Feb 05 22:08:10 <Bowjob>	:)\
Feb 05 22:08:12 <Namworld>	further one will take some time...
Feb 05 22:08:22 <leotreasure>	well that was fun - back to library tour :)
Feb 05 22:08:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 200 @ 0.59 = 118 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:08:26 <evoorhees>	:)
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Feb 05 22:08:34 <Bugpowduur>	that's pretty aggressive, but the market might bear it
Feb 05 22:08:46 <Bugpowduur>	bare
Feb 05 22:08:46 <topace_>	that was.. exciting
Feb 05 22:08:48 <Bowjob>	this launch is fun
Feb 05 22:08:50 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 22:08:52 <Bugpowduur>	lame
Feb 05 22:08:57 <Bowjob>	moar shares?
Feb 05 22:08:58 <Bowjob>	:3
Feb 05 22:08:58 <evoorhees>	deffinitely better response than last night
Feb 05 22:09:01 <Bugpowduur>	I paid .00589
Feb 05 22:09:07 <Bugpowduur>	for a lot of shares
Feb 05 22:09:11 <Bowjob>	I have 29 more BTC to put in
Feb 05 22:09:18 <Bugpowduur>	guess its better than .0066
Feb 05 22:09:24 <Bugpowduur>	:-P
Feb 05 22:09:24 <topace_>	On Wed, 06 Feb 13 03:01:10 +0000 S.DICE - 20`000 bought @0.00550000 BTC, total cost 110.00000000BTC
Feb 05 22:09:25 <topace_>	        On Wed, 06 Feb 13 03:00:43 +0000 S.DICE - 100`000 bought @0.00557000 BTC, total cost 557.00000000BTC
Feb 05 22:09:32 <topace_>	is all i got, sorry Bowjob
Feb 05 22:09:34 <Bugpowduur>	you people were supposed to bid more
Feb 05 22:09:36 <Bowjob>	aight
Feb 05 22:09:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowduur no it's bear.
Feb 05 22:09:56 <Bowjob>	i was debating calling you last night. my pain was enormous
Feb 05 22:10:00 <Bowjob>	0.44 up for grabs
Feb 05 22:10:01 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 22:10:04 <topace_>	lol yea
Feb 05 22:10:06 <Bowjob>	u were asleep
Feb 05 22:10:10 <topace_>	suck i had a headache and went ot bed early :(
Feb 05 22:10:14 <Bowjob>	:(
Feb 05 22:10:23 <Bowjob>	u got 200 on reserve :P
Feb 05 22:10:35 <topace_>	200?
Feb 05 22:10:40 <topace_>	[22:08:26] <@assbot> [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 200 @ 0.59 = 118 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:10:41 <topace_>	nope
Feb 05 22:10:43 <Bowjob>	you said you got 120k
Feb 05 22:10:45 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 05 22:10:46 <Bowjob>	oh
Feb 05 22:10:51 <Bowjob>	u sold some at higher
Feb 05 22:10:52 <Bowjob>	kk
Feb 05 22:11:01 <error4733>	;;calc 0.00039001 * 350000
Feb 05 22:11:01 <gribble>	136.5035
Feb 05 22:11:02 <topace_>	yea i only did the 100k first
Feb 05 22:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	hows the forum drama level ?
Feb 05 22:11:21 <topace_>	then i listed the second 20k at the same price, but it filled higher
Feb 05 22:11:30 <topace_>	cuz there was a bid for it
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Feb 05 22:11:54 <Ukyo>	MP: duno, dont care. its forums
Feb 05 22:11:54 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 05 22:11:55 <Bowjob>	last night some panic buyers sold
Feb 05 22:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00599997 = 6.3 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:11:59 <Bowjob>	at havelock
Feb 05 22:12:00 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 22:12:07 <Bowjob>	i wonder if they got back in
Feb 05 22:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	you should care, bitcoins are backed by drama
Feb 05 22:13:31 <Bowjob>	it was a coinflip for me whether you'd do an IPO style offering
Feb 05 22:13:34 <Bowjob>	or just pump the shares out
Feb 05 22:13:41 <Bowjob>	in teh jungle
Feb 05 22:13:46 <topace_>	they were being pumped out here, so i had to do the same on havelock
Feb 05 22:14:04 <Bowjob>	yeah, ididnt bid high enough
Feb 05 22:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	hah the forum is down
Feb 05 22:14:08 <Ukyo>	yup
Feb 05 22:14:24 <mircea_popescu>	dude you'd think they'd get some servers already
Feb 05 22:14:38 <topace_>	they make a fucking killing off those stupid ads
Feb 05 22:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	out of the three times i tried to laod it this week it was down 2
Feb 05 22:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... trying to fail or something
Feb 05 22:15:05 <Bugpowduur>	theymos is busy trying to loan out all of the BTC the forum owns
Feb 05 22:15:24 <Ukyo>	lol
Feb 05 22:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	o srsly ?
Feb 05 22:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	whatcouldpossiblygowrong.activex
Feb 05 22:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	im sorry
Feb 05 22:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	.rubyonrails
Feb 05 22:16:14 <Ukyo>	i dont know that he actually does that
Feb 05 22:16:14 <Ukyo>	heh
Feb 05 22:16:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006698 = 2.8942 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17438 @ 0.00066962 = 11.6768 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:16:48 <Bugpowduur>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.msg1477592;boardseen#new
Feb 05 22:17:04 <Ukyo>	0,0
Feb 05 22:17:05 <Ukyo>	heh
Feb 05 22:18:14 <Ukyo>	"If you're interested, post here with how much you would charge for this service and what your reserve policy would be."
Feb 05 22:18:19 <Ukyo>	giving out loans, and paying to do it
Feb 05 22:18:20 <Ukyo>	lol
Feb 05 22:18:35 <pigeons>	i'll watch your money for free
Feb 05 22:18:54 <Ukyo>	"Full reserve is not a requirement, but you will be responsible for returning the money"
Feb 05 22:19:00 <Ukyo>	Bad Idea(tm)
Feb 05 22:19:02 <Bugpowduur>	;;ticker
Feb 05 22:19:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.83107, Best ask: 20.85732, Bid-ask spread: 0.02625, Last trade: 21.09990, 24 hour volume: 35064.14470227, 24 hour low: 20.20000, 24 hour high: 21.09990, 24 hour vwap: 20.65643
Feb 05 22:19:04 <pigeons>	thats nuts
Feb 05 22:19:09 <Bugpowduur>	meanwhile
Feb 05 22:19:11 <Bugpowduur>	21.099
Feb 05 22:19:24 <Bugpowduur>	that 40k ask wall, nowhere to be foun
Feb 05 22:19:31 <pigeons>	that's always nuts anywhere, but ... it's incredibly nuts on the bitcointalk forum.
Feb 05 22:20:44 <Chilca>	anybody use blockchain wallet?
Feb 05 22:22:40 <gesell>	Bugpowduur: someone took down the 40k wall long before it was ever tested
Feb 05 22:22:50 <topace_>	so evoorhees: whats the next one going to be priced at?
Feb 05 22:23:08 <Bowjob>	0.6 sounds easonable
Feb 05 22:23:14 <Bugpowduur>	boooo
Feb 05 22:23:33 <Chilca>	It's sound that blockchain is hacked
Feb 05 22:23:34 <evoorhees>	don't know yet
Feb 05 22:23:47 <topace_>	are you planning to do it every evening this week?
Feb 05 22:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11824 @ 0.00066962 = 7.9176 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:23:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9802 @ 0.00066961 = 6.5635 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:24:17 <evoorhees>	topace - not sure on that either, but I will likely do the next tranche tomorrow night
Feb 05 22:24:35 <topace_>	cool
Feb 05 22:24:43 <topace_>	i leave for cuba on saturday, so please do them all before then
Feb 05 22:24:46 <Bugpowduur>	62-66.... somwhere in there
Feb 05 22:24:49 <topace_>	and then nothing for the next week
Feb 05 22:24:52 <Bowjob>	cuba!
Feb 05 22:24:53 <topace_>	:)
Feb 05 22:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	cuba ?!
Feb 05 22:25:01 <Bugpowduur>	CUBE?
Feb 05 22:25:05 <Bugpowduur>	eh?
Feb 05 22:25:06 <topace_>	Canadians <3 Cuba
Feb 05 22:25:08 <Bowjob>	please do not get shot there
Feb 05 22:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	get shot, get shot.
Feb 05 22:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	of rum
Feb 05 22:25:20 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 05 22:25:21 <topace_>	(because there's no americans on the resorts :p)
Feb 05 22:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	multiple.
Feb 05 22:25:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.62 = 12.4 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:25:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:25:42 <Bowjob>	do not get a cuban necktie or something.. its bad for your health
Feb 05 22:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2111 @ 0.00066961 = 1.4135 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9289 @ 0.00066897 = 6.2141 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	well okay boys an' girls, we continue the fun & revolucion tomorro.
Feb 05 22:29:35 <Bowjob>	yeap
Feb 05 22:29:44 <Bowjob>	40k ask..?
Feb 05 22:32:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067616 = 2.9217 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:32:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 379 @ 0.00067644 = 0.2564 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 22:38:08 <topace_>	412`625    0.00550000
Feb 05 22:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00067156 = 4.1973 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:38:13 <topace_>	lol someone was tooooooooooooo slooooooooow
Feb 05 22:38:44 <Bugpowduur>	more for tomorrow
Feb 05 22:38:48 <topace_>	0.00659950    361`309
Feb 05 22:38:56 <topace_>	and someone else is tryign to cash out profits quick
Feb 05 22:39:28 <topace_>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 05 22:39:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.52100000 / 0.60370534 / 0.76500000 (2034 shares, 1227.93665796 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.67509048 / 0.89000000 (3916 shares, 2643.65431805 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.61695676 / 0.89000000 (7474 shares, 4611.13483598 BTC)
Feb 05 22:39:53 <topace_>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 05 22:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00511112 / 0.00739497 (2024791 shares, 10,348.97 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00565134 / 0.007395 (2695467 shares, 15,233.02 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00516384 / 0.0075 (7872150 shares, 40,650.56 BTC)
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Feb 05 22:40:16 <Bowjob>	nope. sdice is worth more than xx7
Feb 05 22:40:39 <topace_>	wow havelock 30d volume is 11% of mpex 30d volume
Feb 05 22:41:07 <topace_>	and we have 4.66% of the mpex traded shares
Feb 05 22:41:16 <Bowjob>	keep growing
Feb 05 22:42:20 <Bowjob>	400k @ 0.xx55 bid
Feb 05 22:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00067156 = 5.8762 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 22:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00067644 = 4.9042 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:42:29 <usagi>	hi guys
Feb 05 22:42:45 <topace_>	Bowjob:  yea someone was toooooo slow
Feb 05 22:43:06 <usagi>	Lol there's a bitbet about me
Feb 05 22:43:15 <usagi>	You guys try too hard you know that :>
Feb 05 22:43:23 <usagi>	I think I'll place a bet
Feb 05 22:43:32 <topace_>	lol whast teh bet?
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Feb 05 22:43:34 <Bowjob>	this dog website is quite entertaining
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Feb 05 22:46:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4211 @ 0.00066897 = 2.817 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:46:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066836 = 2.888 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:46:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1518 @ 0.00066835 = 1.0146 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:46:41 <gesell>	aadios
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Feb 05 22:49:00 <topace_>	night!
Feb 05 22:49:54 <usagi>	it's that I will list an asset on MPEX on April 1st
Feb 05 22:50:22 <usagi>	It isn't that I wouldn't do it, but it's that mircea said I would never be allowed to list on MPEX. So I voted no.
Feb 05 22:50:29 <usagi>	Kind of a stupid bet actually
Feb 05 22:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 761 @ 0.00067644 = 0.5148 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:50:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5439 @ 0.00067714 = 3.683 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:51:09 <pigeons>	that's a good one
Feb 05 22:51:19 <usagi>	I think mircea still thinks I am nefario actually
Feb 05 22:52:27 <Bowjob>	usagi would you be allowed to make that bet
Feb 05 22:52:38 <Bowjob>	if you proposed it yourself?
Feb 05 22:53:27 <Ukyo>	blockchain.info is shitting itself. Communications link failure The last packet successfully received from the server was 5,735,360 milliseconds ago. The last packet sent successfully to the server was 5,264,975 milliseconds ago.
Feb 05 22:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00067102 = 6.9786 BTC [-]
Feb 05 22:55:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00067713 = 0.4063 BTC [+]
Feb 05 22:55:54 <usagi>	Yes I just tested it, I created a bet, and I was allowed to bet on it
Feb 05 22:56:11 <usagi>	They couldn't really stop you since you could just make a bet from a secondary address. Bitbet is interesting because it is stateless.
Feb 05 22:56:28 <usagi>	It's another in the line of stateless systems like satoshidice or mpex
Feb 05 22:56:31 <Bowjob>	it presents some sort of conflict of interest if you already know the answer
Feb 05 22:56:39 <usagi>	Yeah thats a flaw in the system
Feb 05 22:56:43 <Bugpowduur>	The bet will get cancelled and your funds returned when kakobrekla wakes up
Feb 05 22:56:48 <usagi>	You never know if there are people betting with inside information
Feb 05 22:57:01 <usagi>	He doesn't know which bet is mine, theoretically
Feb 05 22:57:07 <Bowjob>	im still wondering whats up with the bfl bet thread
Feb 05 22:57:17 <usagi>	Could be started by BFL.
Feb 05 22:57:19 <Bowjob>	700 btc bet, on both sides.. is taht a hedge?
Feb 05 22:57:21 <usagi>	No one would know.
Feb 05 22:58:06 <Bowjob>	ill be honest. micon kinda scared me about bfl. if he intends to spread fud, then he succeded
Feb 05 22:58:20 <Bowjob>	he called out on pirate when everyone believed him
Feb 05 22:58:26 <Bowjob>	so.. i'll just sit it out
Feb 05 22:58:43 <usagi>	If you saw the first thing he posted (the video) he basically said at the end that he would talk shit about josh and make josh sorry for burning him so badly
Feb 05 22:58:52 <usagi>	A lot of people are like that, micon chief among them
Feb 05 22:59:28 <Bowjob>	and lucif
Feb 05 22:59:41 <Bowjob>	the resident bear analyst
Feb 05 23:00:43 <usagi>	I'm planning to create an mpex account before april 1st though
Feb 05 23:00:54 <usagi>	I have too much money invested in mpex now to trust it all to passthrus
Feb 05 23:01:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0064 = 0.0512 BTC [+]
Feb 05 23:01:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3502 @ 0.0065 = 22.763 BTC [+]
Feb 05 23:01:30 <Bowjob>	dont forget the referral, 5 btc for both parties
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Feb 05 23:04:41 <usagi>	You lost me there
Feb 05 23:05:05 <usagi>	Don't tell me you need referrals now
Feb 05 23:05:13 <Bowjob>	lol kk
Feb 05 23:05:25 <usagi>	Honestly though I wouldn't be suprised
Feb 05 23:06:42 <pigeons>	you both get a bitcoin reward
Feb 05 23:06:54 <kakobrekla>	yes yes referrals like pirate
Feb 05 23:07:13 <kakobrekla>	you must be thrustwothy enough to steal ze coins.
Feb 05 23:07:46 <usagi>	Bitcoin rewards.
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Feb 05 23:08:18 <pigeons>	im gonna make an address and propose a bet that i wont spend the coins in that address
Feb 05 23:08:33 <kakobrekla>	rejected.
Feb 05 23:08:44 <usagi>	Oh your the guy who runs it, I see
Feb 05 23:08:59 <usagi>	I made a bet that I would get a scammer tag. Is it accepted or rejected?
Feb 05 23:09:09 <kakobrekla>	hum dunno
Feb 05 23:09:12 <kakobrekla>	i dont do that stuff
Feb 05 23:09:37 <pigeons>	that's what i mean.
Feb 05 23:09:54 <pigeons>	if enough people bet you wont, just scam and get the tag so you win the bet ;)
Feb 05 23:10:26 <kakobrekla>	yeah but what if he gets a 'SCAMUUR' tag instead
Feb 05 23:10:55 <usagi>	What about an S. Amir tag
Feb 05 23:11:17 <usagi>	i'm kidding
Feb 05 23:11:37 <kakobrekla>	or a 'TAAKI' tag?
Feb 05 23:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2482 @ 0.00066835 = 1.6588 BTC [-]
Feb 05 23:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00066792 = 3.8071 BTC [-]
Feb 05 23:12:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1697 @ 0.00066705 = 1.132 BTC [-]
Feb 05 23:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3721 @ 0.00067713 = 2.5196 BTC [+]
Feb 05 23:19:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5957 @ 0.00067714 = 4.0337 BTC [+]
Feb 05 23:19:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 754 @ 0.00067714 = 0.5106 BTC [+]
Feb 05 23:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12859 @ 0.00067913 = 8.7329 BTC [+]
Feb 05 23:19:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00068201 = 9.3776 BTC [+]
Feb 05 23:20:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7187 @ 0.0006823 = 4.9037 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 23:22:13 <usagi>	By the way
Feb 05 23:22:18 <usagi>	I didn't say milk was a scammer.
Feb 05 23:22:54 <usagi>	The reason is because I am not a tomato. :)
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Feb 05 23:24:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 99 @ 0.1202 = 11.8998 BTC [-]
Feb 05 23:24:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1265 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 23:33:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7858 @ 0.0006823 = 5.3615 BTC [+]
Feb 05 23:33:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4692 @ 0.00068753 = 3.2259 BTC [+]
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Feb 05 23:40:04 <usagi>	Out of curiosity what is your job at bitbet.us kako?
Feb 05 23:42:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00068081 = 5.1061 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 23:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00068081 = 5.2422 BTC [-]
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Feb 05 23:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2058 @ 0.00068753 = 1.4149 BTC [+]
Feb 05 23:56:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.0006885 = 4.1999 BTC [+]
Feb 06 00:02:01 <mjr_>	nice breakout :)
Feb 06 00:04:10 <usagi>	a new passtrhough is being created.
Feb 06 00:07:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 76 @ 0.0067 = 0.5092 BTC [+]
Feb 06 00:08:17 <error4733>	name ?
Feb 06 00:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00068254 = 6.6548 BTC [-]
Feb 06 00:09:04 <Namworld>	You mean my passthrough?
Feb 06 00:12:36 <error4733>	:mjr_ : what about your bot ?
Feb 06 00:12:50 <error4733>	the order part ?
Feb 06 00:13:13 <error4733>	pastbin with code ?
Feb 06 00:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14890 @ 0.00068818 = 10.247 BTC [+]
Feb 06 00:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.0006885 = 7.9866 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 00:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 607 @ 0.00068818 = 0.4177 BTC [-]
Feb 06 00:20:34 <mjr_>	can't use it till i get on mpex
Feb 06 00:21:48 <mjr_>	but it is scanning well
Feb 06 00:21:52 <mjr_>	so we'll see
Feb 06 00:23:10 <usagi>	Yes namworld; I'm very interested in the bitbet passthru too
Feb 06 00:24:00 <Namworld>	Shares are expensive right now
Feb 06 00:24:35 <error4733>	what yours main reason for buy bibet ?
Feb 06 00:24:55 <error4733>	i checked the math, sound's baaad
Feb 06 00:25:35 <usagi>	I own a little of everything
Feb 06 00:25:40 <usagi>	If it works out I buy a little more
Feb 06 00:26:00 <usagi>	I think bitbet will succeed where that other service hasn't succeeded
Feb 06 00:26:03 <usagi>	because it's listed
Feb 06 00:26:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00068818 = 8.327 BTC [-]
Feb 06 00:26:57 <error4733>	because it's listed : this...
Feb 06 00:27:07 <usagi>	Yes. I guess you could say I am buying it because an older boy told me to do it.
Feb 06 00:28:03 <error4733>	check the math, srsly
Feb 06 00:28:12 <usagi>	My theory is.. John Templeton did it, and that's good enough for me.
Feb 06 00:28:20 <usagi>	brb
Feb 06 00:28:35 <usagi>	but thanks, and yes I will check the math later.. just a little swamped right now
Feb 06 00:29:02 <error4733>	in fact, 0 earning so the math is very simple
Feb 06 00:29:57 <usagi>	There is more to the story than that
Feb 06 00:30:13 <usagi>	Kakobrekla is an excellent coder, and mircea is involved, so there's politics and money behind it
Feb 06 00:30:36 <usagi>	They also sold about $250k worth of shares so there is a very large financial incentive for them to succeed.
Feb 06 00:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.0006885 = 8.0899 BTC [+]
Feb 06 00:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00068865 = 2.8235 BTC [+]
Feb 06 00:30:47 <usagi>	They don't need to worry about anything else to make money so they're focused.
Feb 06 00:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00068964 = 5.8964 BTC [+]
Feb 06 00:31:05 <usagi>	They can also afford to out-advertise the competition if they wanted. So if there is a market here, it will theoretically go to them
Feb 06 00:31:08 <usagi>	And there is a market
Feb 06 00:31:17 <usagi>	Getting in now, when the herd thinks there's zero earnings
Feb 06 00:31:30 <usagi>	Well my man, that is how I make all my money.
Feb 06 00:31:35 <usagi>	brb gotta go buy a house
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Feb 06 00:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00068964 = 2.3103 BTC [+]
Feb 06 00:35:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10317 @ 0.00069092 = 7.1282 BTC [+]
Feb 06 00:35:43 <error4733>	Take one for me, i'm a little short on change
Feb 06 00:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00069 = 0.207 BTC [-]
Feb 06 00:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1483 @ 0.00069346 = 1.0284 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 00:44:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9164 @ 0.00068818 = 6.3065 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 00:45:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00069346 = 0.208 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 00:46:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00068818 = 8.6711 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 00:57:14 <Namworld>	S.DICE-PT now live on BTCT.co with a few shares for sale.
Feb 06 00:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00068833 = 6.4703 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 01:04:36 <error4733>	price ?
Feb 06 01:06:40 <Namworld>	0.0065
Feb 06 01:07:12 <Namworld>	unless Deadterra wants to start competing on price, I'm now the lowest.
Feb 06 01:09:44 <Namworld>	Hopefully he'll start to undercut until we reach even more competitive prices
Feb 06 01:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11117 @ 0.00069346 = 7.7092 BTC [+]
Feb 06 01:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3733 @ 0.00069349 = 2.5888 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 01:26:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00603393 = 9.956 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 01:32:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 30 @ 0.03128492 = 0.9385 BTC [+]
Feb 06 01:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 28 @ 0.04090669 = 1.1454 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 19 @ 0.05246024 = 0.9967 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:34:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 4 @ 0.0661182 = 0.2645 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:36:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 01:41:29 <Bowjob>	We need whales
Feb 06 01:41:30 <Bowjob>	 :3
Feb 06 01:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.03126589 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 17 @ 0.04088513 = 0.695 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 12 @ 0.05243641 = 0.6292 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 01:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00068833 = 5.2657 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:44:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15 @ 0.00068818 = 0.0103 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:44:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12797 @ 0.00068469 = 8.762 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:44:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2738 @ 0.00068081 = 1.8641 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:46:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00069349 = 10.9571 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 01:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.02063382 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 13 @ 0.0408611 = 0.5312 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:52:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 9 @ 0.05240984 = 0.4717 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:54:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3062 @ 0.00068081 = 2.0846 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:54:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00067834 = 10.9891 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:54:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00067818 = 11.4273 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:55:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8723 @ 0.00067589 = 5.8958 BTC [-]
Feb 06 01:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.03124467 BTC [+]
Feb 06 02:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 10 @ 0.0284462 = 0.2845 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3134 @ 0.00067599 = 2.1186 BTC [+]
Feb 06 02:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.03116725 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 8 @ 0.04076219 = 0.3261 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 02:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9568 @ 0.00069055 = 6.6072 BTC [+]
Feb 06 02:14:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.629 = 1.258 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 02:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 7 @ 0.04073818 = 0.2852 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 02:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1187 @ 0.00067599 = 0.8024 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:18:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19652 @ 0.00067589 = 13.2826 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 02:21:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
Feb 06 02:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 7 @ 0.0407166 = 0.285 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067722 = 2.9263 BTC [+]
Feb 06 02:24:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.349 = 1.745 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:30:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 5 @ 0.02850346 = 0.1425 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:31:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 261 @ 0.01 = 2.61 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2741 @ 0.00067589 = 1.8526 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:33:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1359 @ 0.00067409 = 0.9161 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11421 @ 0.00067745 = 7.7372 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 02:37:55 <Namworld>	Hmm
Feb 06 02:38:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10529 @ 0.00068842 = 7.2484 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 02:40:24 <Namworld>	Who would like to take 44k S.DICE at tomorrow's IPO price?
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Feb 06 02:45:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2962 @ 0.00067409 = 1.9967 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:45:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00067408 = 2.5278 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:45:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 205 @ 0.0062 = 1.271 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7788 @ 0.00067252 = 5.2376 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 02:47:09 <Namworld>	Good, deadterra seems to have waken up
Feb 06 02:47:37 <Ukyo>	hmm ?
Feb 06 02:47:43 <Ukyo>	Were you wanting him?
Feb 06 02:48:26 <Namworld>	no, I mean a large stack went down on BTCTC for 0.0062
Feb 06 02:48:47 <Namworld>	I've been undercutting him
Feb 06 02:49:08 <Ukyo>	I dont know that he has even seen your pt
Feb 06 02:49:09 <Ukyo>	heh
Feb 06 02:49:37 <Namworld>	Well then his largest holder is selling the whole thing
Feb 06 02:50:14 <Namworld>	and competing with me
Feb 06 02:50:21 <Namworld>	one or the other
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Feb 06 02:50:40 <Ukyo>	oh, I'm sure its his wall
Feb 06 02:50:46 <Ukyo>	I just dont think he knows about your pt
Feb 06 02:50:46 <Ukyo>	lol
Feb 06 02:50:56 <Ukyo>	I think he set that price because its the next traunch
Feb 06 02:51:05 <Ukyo>	So people can basically get in on it ealy
Feb 06 02:51:10 <Ukyo>	early*
Feb 06 02:51:18 <Namworld>	Well he's been a bit slow to achieve that.
Feb 06 02:51:24 <Namworld>	In the past
Feb 06 02:51:31 <Ukyo>	the sales have been 3am his time
Feb 06 02:51:35 <Ukyo>	what do you expect
Feb 06 02:51:41 <Ukyo>	he has a life outside of bitcoin
Feb 06 02:52:25 <Namworld>	I mean the passthrough could trade for weeks 0.05 over the MPEx ask
Feb 06 02:52:33 <Namworld>	With good volume.
Feb 06 02:52:44 <Ukyo>	i'm sure if it was 8pm or not-sleep time for him when it launches, he would prolly get to it better
Feb 06 02:52:49 <Diablo-D3>	Ukyo: so I guess no units came back for sale?
Feb 06 02:53:32 <Ukyo>	not yet
Feb 06 02:53:38 <Diablo-D3>	damn
Feb 06 02:53:40 *	Diablo-D3 sighs.
Feb 06 02:53:45 <Ukyo>	The unpaid orders havent expired to my understanding
Feb 06 02:53:58 <Diablo-D3>	Ukyo: see, this is why Im wondering if I should even work on DMC 2.0
Feb 06 02:53:58 <Ukyo>	on the bright side
Feb 06 02:54:03 <Ukyo>	i bought a pizza with 1.2btc tonight
Feb 06 02:54:06 <Ukyo>	and then btc price surged
Feb 06 02:54:07 <Diablo-D3>	I swear to god its cursed.
Feb 06 02:54:20 <Ukyo>	i'm sure after a year i will be like 'damnit, i bought a $10,000 pizza!" like that other guy :P
Feb 06 02:54:31 <Diablo-D3>	that other guy was nefario.
Feb 06 02:54:48 <Diablo-D3>	dont make me start a scammer thread on you pre-emptively.
Feb 06 02:54:51 <Ukyo>	.. was it nefario ???
Feb 06 02:54:53 <Ukyo>	LOL
Feb 06 02:55:01 <Ukyo>	LOL
Feb 06 02:55:19 <Diablo-D3>	the way I see it, buy pizza with btc -> total douchebag that steals money
Feb 06 02:55:35 <Diablo-D3>	1) become well known in community
Feb 06 02:55:37 <Ukyo>	shold do it. title: Getting ready  Contents: Placeholder.
Feb 06 02:55:38 <Ukyo>	:P
Feb 06 02:55:39 <Diablo-D3>	2) start exchange
Feb 06 02:55:49 <Diablo-D3>	3) BUY PIZZA WITH BTC
Feb 06 02:55:53 <Diablo-D3>	4) PROFIT !!!
Feb 06 02:56:05 <Ukyo>	2.5) Get opinion of a "lawyer" on the commuter train
Feb 06 02:56:27 <Diablo-D3>	seriously though like
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Feb 06 02:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1412 @ 0.00067252 = 0.9496 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.00067191 = 10.5154 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 638 @ 0.00066814 = 0.4263 BTC [-]
Feb 06 02:57:12 <Diablo-D3>	I invested in companies that were deemed by the community as safe because people said they had done business with the guy before or had seen the farms in person or the guy posted photos of the farm
Feb 06 02:57:34 <Diablo-D3>	result: I vastly increased the mhash DMC had at its disposal, but asset value plummeted for awhile
Feb 06 02:57:48 <Diablo-D3>	I made plans with shareholder majority approval and input
Feb 06 02:58:02 <Diablo-D3>	result: nefario puppets as Puppet to claim I stole from shareholders
Feb 06 02:58:25 <Diablo-D3>	further result: nefario tries to use DMC as an example (which blows up in his face and destroys GLBSE)
Feb 06 02:58:45 <Diablo-D3>	I try to weather the storm the best I can
Feb 06 02:58:57 <Diablo-D3>	result: people continuing to bitch
Feb 06 02:59:26 <Diablo-D3>	further result: some crossdressing asian weirdo pastes highly edited private irc logs that make him/her look worse than it makes me
Feb 06 02:59:53 <Diablo-D3>	I try to buy 3 avalon units
Feb 06 03:00:04 <Diablo-D3>	result: avalon site goes down and so does bitwallet
Feb 06 03:00:10 <Ukyo>	lol
Feb 06 03:00:18 <Diablo-D3>	seriously
Feb 06 03:00:22 <Diablo-D3>	what the fuck is wrong with this picture
Feb 06 03:01:12 <Diablo-D3>	Ukyo: I mean, seriously
Feb 06 03:01:17 <Diablo-D3>	a fucking public shareholder vote
Feb 06 03:01:28 <Diablo-D3>	to suspend dividends for 3 months to increase share value
Feb 06 03:01:32 *	Ukyo never followed all that stuffs heh
Feb 06 03:01:42 <Ukyo>	i had given up working with him && glbse by that point
Feb 06 03:01:42 <Diablo-D3>	then people bitch they wernt told about it
Feb 06 03:01:47 <Diablo-D3>	IT WAS A PUBLIC SHAREHOLDER VOTE
Feb 06 03:01:50 <Diablo-D3>	MOST SHARES VOTED
Feb 06 03:02:01 <Diablo-D3>	and of the shares that voted, most voted yes
Feb 06 03:02:25 <Diablo-D3>	oh, I forgt some
Feb 06 03:02:31 <Diablo-D3>	I invest in a guy who I do trust
Feb 06 03:02:55 <Diablo-D3>	result: he gets tired of people attacking him even though hes done everything great, he sells off the hardware and buys back the shares at full IPO price
Feb 06 03:03:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00068072 = 8.8153 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:03:06 <Diablo-D3>	which was higher than the market price at the time
Feb 06 03:03:16 <Diablo-D3>	further result: I buy back half the DMC shares as a result
Feb 06 03:03:23 <Diablo-D3>	and people bitch about that
Feb 06 03:03:34 <Ukyo>	yes, ppl bitch
Feb 06 03:03:48 <Ukyo>	erik offers ppl shares at half price
Feb 06 03:03:50 <Ukyo>	ppl bitch
Feb 06 03:04:04 <Diablo-D3>	Ukyo: technically he should have offered them at market price
Feb 06 03:04:09 <Ukyo>	yes, he could have
Feb 06 03:04:15 <Ukyo>	but he wanted to get more shares in the hands of the public
Feb 06 03:04:27 <Diablo-D3>	Ukyo: yeah but
Feb 06 03:04:29 <Diablo-D3>	I did the same thing
Feb 06 03:04:30 <Ukyo>	he was trying to do a "nice thing"
Feb 06 03:04:34 <Diablo-D3>	when I was trading dmc for asicminer shares
Feb 06 03:05:28 <Diablo-D3>	it ended up being a great investment, and probably the best one dmc ever did
Feb 06 03:06:46 <Namworld>	I regret taking part in that now
Feb 06 03:07:10 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I vaguely regret all of this
Feb 06 03:07:18 <Diablo-D3>	the community just wasnt ready for what I had to offer
Feb 06 03:07:37 <Diablo-D3>	GLBSE blowing up and taking everybody with it wasnt even on my TODO lits
Feb 06 03:08:23 <Namworld>	I regret trusting amazingrando and suggesting lending capital for hashing. I should just have cold-storage'ed it.
Feb 06 03:09:01 <Diablo-D3>	well, thats what I considered doing with dmc
Feb 06 03:09:03 <Diablo-D3>	but it didnt make sense
Feb 06 03:09:15 <Diablo-D3>	its not like we have a bank that pays interest
Feb 06 03:09:28 <Namworld>	But without hashing, people would probably not have been interested at all.
Feb 06 03:09:47 <zefir__>	Diablo-D3: are you sure with the pizza guy being Nefario? According to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1195#msg1195 it was laszlo
Feb 06 03:09:50 <Namworld>	Well... there was MPEx with it's options
Feb 06 03:10:00 <Namworld>	That would have turned out great.
Feb 06 03:10:15 <Namworld>	They didn't have such a great track record back then
Feb 06 03:10:27 <Namworld>	It grew fast =/
Feb 06 03:10:49 <Diablo-D3>	zefir__: pretty sure
Feb 06 03:11:08 <zefir__>	link says differently. maybe he was not first
Feb 06 03:11:10 <Diablo-D3>	zefir__: nefario was the other end of that exchange
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Feb 06 03:12:19 <Diablo-D3>	at least, this is what nefario claimed
Feb 06 03:12:22 <Diablo-D3>	maybe it was another one of his lies
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Feb 06 03:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4921 @ 0.00068181 = 3.3552 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:13:13 <zefir__>	thread says nothing about Nef, maybe he had a different nick by then. anyhow he's famous by now :(
Feb 06 03:13:40 *	Diablo-D3 sighs
Feb 06 03:13:42 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno
Feb 06 03:14:04 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld, Ukyo: do you think the investment community has 500k coins to invest in DMC 2.0?
Feb 06 03:14:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 192 @ 0.00068372 = 0.1313 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:14:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14186 @ 0.00069055 = 9.7961 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 03:14:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3522 @ 0.00069119 = 2.4344 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 03:14:21 <Namworld>	I don't think so Diablo-D3
Feb 06 03:14:29 <Ukto>	stupid webirc
Feb 06 03:14:32 <Ukto>	at least my main is back
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Feb 06 03:15:09 <Namworld>	Even if SatoshiDice had sold its whole 15% at 0.007 each, that's still only
Feb 06 03:15:22 <Namworld>	;;calc 0.007*15000000
Feb 06 03:15:23 <gribble>	105000
Feb 06 03:15:25 <Namworld>	BTC
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Feb 06 03:16:19 <Namworld>	I don't think the community would invest 500k in something not already established
Feb 06 03:16:43 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, but thats how investments work
Feb 06 03:17:02 <Diablo-D3>	otherwise if its already established, what do I need your money for?
Feb 06 03:17:22 <Namworld>	Same could be said of an established privately held corporation
Feb 06 03:17:35 <Namworld>	at some point the owner might just want to cash it out
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Feb 06 03:17:45 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, but then its not my company anymore
Feb 06 03:17:51 <Namworld>	Aye
Feb 06 03:18:16 <Diablo-D3>	theres a lot of money to be made here and a lot of good to be done while making the money
Feb 06 03:18:45 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, like, what if maine becomes the next silicon valley because of what I did
Feb 06 03:18:56 <midnightmagic>	What did you do?
Feb 06 03:18:58 <Diablo-D3>	we'd have jobs, the state would have money, we'd stop firing teachers and cops
Feb 06 03:19:04 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: what I would have done I mean
Feb 06 03:19:23 <Diablo-D3>	theres only two things to do in maine, drink and smoke pot
Feb 06 03:19:34 <midnightmagic>	.. and write horror novels.
Feb 06 03:19:36 <Namworld>	Yes. But without a good business plan, in person meeting and contracts, I don't think any investors would give such a large amount to something unestablished.
Feb 06 03:19:38 <Diablo-D3>	there are no jobs, there is no money, people cant even pay their heating fuel bills half the time
Feb 06 03:19:54 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I have no problem with people meeting me in person
Feb 06 03:20:01 <Diablo-D3>	and as for contracts, I want actual contracts
Feb 06 03:20:02 <Namworld>	You'd have to use the traditional venture capitalists for that kind of project.
Feb 06 03:20:04 <Diablo-D3>	something glbse never let me have
Feb 06 03:20:25 <Namworld>	Yes. I just don't think it's going to happen in BTC
Feb 06 03:20:31 *	Diablo-D3 sighs.
Feb 06 03:20:45 <Diablo-D3>	even 50k? at $20, that'd get me the $1m USD I originally asked for
Feb 06 03:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13378 @ 0.00069119 = 9.2467 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2932 @ 0.00069191 = 2.0287 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:21:20 <Namworld>	Maybe. You might be hard pressed to find someone for that amount however.
Feb 06 03:21:33 <Namworld>	50k already seems more realistic albeit a long shot.
Feb 06 03:21:55 <midnightmagic>	:-/ Are you going to try to start up something new? ish?
Feb 06 03:22:21 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: new? no, very old.
Feb 06 03:22:29 <midnightmagic>	And what's going on with DMC anyway?
Feb 06 03:22:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2600 @ 0.0062 = 16.12 BTC [-]
Feb 06 03:22:40 <Diablo-D3>	DMC right now is stuck in damage control mode
Feb 06 03:22:43 <Diablo-D3>	and will probably be for the next year
Feb 06 03:22:58 <midnightmagic>	What kind of damage control? Is there some kind of summary or update somewhere?
Feb 06 03:23:08 <Diablo-D3>	Im buying back all the shares
Feb 06 03:23:23 <Diablo-D3>	I cant continue with DMC 2.0 with those floating around out there
Feb 06 03:24:10 <midnightmagic>	Did you end up getting a list in the end?
Feb 06 03:24:17 <Namworld>	they're a bit high priced
Feb 06 03:24:25 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: yes
Feb 06 03:24:26 <Namworld>	I've been buying some DMC
Feb 06 03:24:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:24:44 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: why? to trade for btc-mining?
Feb 06 03:24:49 <midnightmagic>	I always found it interesting when people did something jack-ass-hattish they always end up disappearing from places like IRC.
Feb 06 03:25:04 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: yes, and Ive not yet done anything jack ass hattish.
Feb 06 03:25:14 <Diablo-D3>	jack ass hattish things just keep happening to me
Feb 06 03:25:41 <truffles>	for example?
Feb 06 03:26:02 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: I listed it above already
Feb 06 03:26:12 <midnightmagic>	Not a lot of people included glbse's continued existence in their contingency plans, that's for sure.
Feb 06 03:26:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:26:38 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: I wanted real assets to mitigate the problem
Feb 06 03:26:42 <Diablo-D3>	but that never happened
Feb 06 03:26:45 <midnightmagic>	But note how nefario basically never shows up on freenode in the places he used to.
Feb 06 03:27:03 <Namworld>	Yes, that's always that less I owe and that is lost for someone
Feb 06 03:27:31 <Diablo-D3>	whats the current price of DMC shares?
Feb 06 03:27:42 <truffles>	my eyes hurt a brief summary?
Feb 06 03:27:42 <Namworld>	~0.04 BTC a piece
Feb 06 03:27:55 <midnightmagic>	17 weeks ago..  fah..
Feb 06 03:27:57 <Namworld>	100 DMC for 4 BTC is about 1%
Feb 06 03:28:23 <Namworld>	and worth 1 BTC-MINING, 10 ASICMINER, 10 BTCMC I think
Feb 06 03:28:32 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: Ill trade you all the btc-mining for 2500 DMC
Feb 06 03:28:38 <Diablo-D3>	which is about a quarter of whats out there give or take
Feb 06 03:28:49 <midnightmagic>	I never understood why you threw your chips in with them..
Feb 06 03:29:19 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: becaues amazingrando sufficiently proved he had the hardware
Feb 06 03:29:28 <Diablo-D3>	he just did a lot of lying as well that we know now and didnt know then
Feb 06 03:29:31 <midnightmagic>	who? I mean asicminer.
Feb 06 03:29:37 <Diablo-D3>	oh
Feb 06 03:29:41 <midnightmagic>	who's amazingrando?
Feb 06 03:29:43 <midnightmagic>	lol
Feb 06 03:29:50 <Diablo-D3>	amazingrando is who Namworld loaned the money to
Feb 06 03:29:58 <Namworld>	The guy behind BITBOND
Feb 06 03:30:01 <midnightmagic>	Who's Namworld then?
Feb 06 03:30:08 <Namworld>	the GIGAMINING competitor
Feb 06 03:30:11 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld is that guy right there
Feb 06 03:30:18 *	Namworld waves
Feb 06 03:31:08 <midnightmagic>	Right. Let me rephrase, "What does Namworld loaning money to amazingrando have to do with DMC's stock status?"
Feb 06 03:31:13 <midnightmagic>	:-)
Feb 06 03:31:38 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: because I own shares of btc-mining, which is Namworld's stock that he loaned the money to amazingrando with
Feb 06 03:31:48 <midnightmagic>	yikes.
Feb 06 03:31:56 <Namworld>	Approved by vote on GLBSE
Feb 06 03:32:12 <Namworld>	Bad idea.
Feb 06 03:32:15 <midnightmagic>	And amazingrando is slickster skeevie guy?
Feb 06 03:32:58 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: well, Namworld was investing it with amazingrando because amazingrando has this giant fucking farm
Feb 06 03:33:09 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: and Namworld wanted the money to grow so he could build his own farm
Feb 06 03:33:11 <Diablo-D3>	instead
Feb 06 03:33:23 <Diablo-D3>	amazingrando is a fucking asshole that needs beaten with a crowbar until bitcoins fly out his ass
Feb 06 03:33:41 <Namworld>	Amazingrando's farm grew to 200 ghash, like Gigavps's
Feb 06 03:34:17 <Namworld>	Technically Gigavps still has part of his equipment hosted at amazingrando's
Feb 06 03:34:49 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: and I wanted Namworld to build his farm too
Feb 06 03:34:59 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: so I invested 106 BTC into btc-mining
Feb 06 03:35:03 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: oh, and I did the math wrong
Feb 06 03:35:19 <Diablo-D3>	its 2650 shares of DMC at current price of 0.04
Feb 06 03:35:56 <truffles>	you got scammed?
Feb 06 03:36:12 <midnightmagic>	Was he simulating hashrate with one of those convenient hash renting services or something?
Feb 06 03:36:24 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: no, hes just refusing to pay
Feb 06 03:36:29 <Diablo-D3>	he claims its power usage, but thats bullshit
Feb 06 03:36:38 <Namworld>	He's down to 150 ghash/s
Feb 06 03:36:48 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, and some of the hardware fried on him
Feb 06 03:36:52 <Diablo-D3>	I have no fucking clue what the fuck he was doing
Feb 06 03:37:09 <midnightmagic>	did he specifically say he was going to pay X BTC, or was it X%?
Feb 06 03:37:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00068523 = 11.5804 BTC [-]
Feb 06 03:37:20 <Namworld>	To me?
Feb 06 03:37:28 <truffles>	did you outsource bitming process to someone who scammed you?
Feb 06 03:37:35 <midnightmagic>	To whomever it was who invested in him, presumably. You included I guess.
Feb 06 03:38:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.69 = 2.07 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:38:46 <midnightmagic>	.. just curious to know what his point of view on what he owes is, and I'm presuming he's claiming the revenues are going into expenses, in which case he could only really justify it if he promised a percentage, and not a concrete growth rate.
Feb 06 03:40:37 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: and btw, at least I had my heart in the right place, I was hoping Namworld would eventually become a DMC customer
Feb 06 03:40:38 <Namworld>	Yeah, there was a promise to repay, unlike bondholders
Feb 06 03:40:38 <Namworld>	At the end of august, that is.
Feb 06 03:40:38 <Namworld>	He's long overdue
Feb 06 03:40:38 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: but yeah, get 2650 shares of DMC or whatever the math comes out to if price goes up or down, and Ill trade you
Feb 06 03:40:38 <Diablo-D3>	and that'll be about 1/4th of my goal done
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Feb 06 03:40:39 <Diablo-D3>	and that means 3/4th left to go :<
Feb 06 03:40:58 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: he isnt saying anything useful]
Feb 06 03:41:03 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: give midnightmagic the url of that thread
Feb 06 03:41:57 <midnightmagic>	;;ticker
Feb 06 03:41:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.10001, Best ask: 21.19990, Bid-ask spread: 0.09989, Last trade: 21.21999, 24 hour volume: 46081.11330186, 24 hour low: 20.35000, 24 hour high: 21.33390, 24 hour vwap: 20.85302
Feb 06 03:42:09 <midnightmagic>	geez, back up again.
Feb 06 03:42:16 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141139.0
Feb 06 03:42:22 <midnightmagic>	Thank you!
Feb 06 03:42:37 <Diablo-D3>	yeah that thread
Feb 06 03:42:37 <Namworld>	He's down to 150 Ghash/s
Feb 06 03:42:59 <Namworld>	Technically his electricity bills and amount of cards match
Feb 06 03:43:11 <Diablo-D3>	and see, I thought I was clever by avoiding the electricity issue
Feb 06 03:43:21 <Namworld>	That would mean he has 100 Ghash/s of profits, for 200 Ghash/s he promised.
Feb 06 03:43:37 <Diablo-D3>	I guess its more cool to pay the electricity company than become your own power company
Feb 06 03:44:10 <truffles>	diablo did you outsource bitming process to someone who scammed you?
Feb 06 03:44:15 <Namworld>	The only thing that makes sense about his ASIC thing is that hashing would then be super cheap to maintain...
Feb 06 03:44:17 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: basically, yes
Feb 06 03:44:24 <truffles>	k
Feb 06 03:44:28 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: I outsourced it to a large number of companies, all of which lied about what they owned
Feb 06 03:44:39 <Diablo-D3>	I expected one or two bad apples, but not basically ALL of them
Feb 06 03:44:53 <truffles>	thats a very risky venture
Feb 06 03:44:54 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: DMC was not supposed to host its own mining gear until the DC was done
Feb 06 03:45:03 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: yes, I know that now
Feb 06 03:45:08 <Diablo-D3>	what was risky was trusting nefario
Feb 06 03:45:25 <Diablo-D3>	he claimed he vetted all the mining companies on glbse
Feb 06 03:45:28 <Diablo-D3>	he never did
Feb 06 03:45:32 <Diablo-D3>	he didnt even punish the liars
Feb 06 03:45:52 <Diablo-D3>	the only company he punished was mine since I pointed out he failed his job and harmed the community
Feb 06 03:45:59 <midnightmagic>	..  5850s he.. had manufactured..?!
Feb 06 03:46:14 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: thats actually not hard
Feb 06 03:46:29 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: AMD publishes a ref design
Feb 06 03:46:45 <Diablo-D3>	he probably just bought existing boards and had flow through heatsinks attached
Feb 06 03:46:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00068657 = 10.0239 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:47:02 <midnightmagic>	yeah. but why when he's only doing 200GH?
Feb 06 03:47:15 <Diablo-D3>	I would have gone with the flow through route, honestly
Feb 06 03:47:20 <Diablo-D3>	its MUCH easier with new cards though
Feb 06 03:47:39 <Diablo-D3>	with GCN ref hsfs, you juts take the plastic shit off and the fan assembly
Feb 06 03:47:44 <Diablo-D3>	the fins are already flow through
Feb 06 03:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00068523 = 7.0579 BTC [-]
Feb 06 03:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00068072 = 1.4295 BTC [-]
Feb 06 03:48:12 <midnightmagic>	lol http://imgur.com/a/Jf3ME#0
Feb 06 03:49:04 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: what? thats a pretty usual trick for changing voltage
Feb 06 03:49:29 <Diablo-D3>	http://imgur.com/a/Jf3ME#1
Feb 06 03:49:31 <Diablo-D3>	now thats weird
Feb 06 03:49:35 <Bowjob>	amazon coins lol wtf
Feb 06 03:49:43 <Diablo-D3>	a pci-e 8 to two pci-e 6ses shouldnt have melted like that
Feb 06 03:50:36 <midnightmagic>	Yeah..  but why? "We have explored many avenues of liquidating our GPU equipment to buy coins to pay back bondholders"
Feb 06 03:50:53 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, I just give up trying to understand
Feb 06 03:51:02 <Diablo-D3>	with DMC, that cluster would have been profitable even 2 years from now
Feb 06 03:52:22 <midnightmagic>	even without the self-printed solar panels?
Feb 06 03:53:10 <Diablo-D3>	wasnt self printed, that'd be too goddamned expensive
Feb 06 03:53:19 <Diablo-D3>	but no, with the solar and/or wind farm
Feb 06 03:53:46 <Diablo-D3>	not having to keep giving money to the electric company means EVERYTHING is profitable, even cpus
Feb 06 03:53:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1006 @ 0.00068611 = 0.6902 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:53:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2994 @ 0.00068925 = 2.0636 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 03:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7262 @ 0.00068925 = 5.0053 BTC [+]
Feb 06 03:54:47 <Diablo-D3>	cpus and gpus just become a waste of physical space, nothing more
Feb 06 03:54:54 <midnightmagic>	How..  ironic.. to see some of those replies to his announce..
Feb 06 03:55:16 <Diablo-D3>	Im thinking this, though
Feb 06 03:55:24 <Diablo-D3>	if I can get $1m USD in investment
Feb 06 03:55:34 <Diablo-D3>	I could get maybe another 25-50 in from venture capital firms
Feb 06 03:55:50 <midnightmagic>	You're taking aim at the moon again.
Feb 06 03:55:55 <Diablo-D3>	so?
Feb 06 03:55:58 <Diablo-D3>	kennedy did and he made it.
Feb 06 03:56:22 <Diablo-D3>	hell, elon musk is taking aim at mars, and he'll probably make it or die trying
Feb 06 03:56:48 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, it must be really nice to have something to believe in, you know? =/
Feb 06 03:57:04 <Namworld>	actually CPU are not as profitable as selling electricity to the grid
Feb 06 03:57:09 <Namworld>	so...
Feb 06 03:57:19 <Namworld>	bam
Feb 06 03:57:22 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: you missed the point
Feb 06 03:57:34 <midnightmagic>	Kennedy did it in a way that is currently not replicable.
Feb 06 03:57:35 <Namworld>	Well yeah, I get the point
Feb 06 03:57:43 <Namworld>	But CPUs should go out the door
Feb 06 03:57:55 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: says who
Feb 06 03:58:05 <Diablo-D3>	why cant DMC be our apollo mission
Feb 06 03:58:15 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Says NASA. There's a reason why they're reverse-engineering all the lost tech they developed.
Feb 06 03:58:29 <Diablo-D3>	we're talking about two different things
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Feb 06 03:59:47 <midnightmagic>	Holy Jesus: "I don't think I can release detailed financials at this point,"
Feb 06 04:00:12 <midnightmagic>	wtf is with all these idiots and their financial secrecy?
Feb 06 04:00:25 <Uglux>	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Feb 06 04:00:36 <Namworld>	They either have none or they want to hide it
Feb 06 04:00:51 <Namworld>	Like rg had stopped making financial statements for S.BVPS
Feb 06 04:01:08 <Namworld>	He was not keeping track of anything
Feb 06 04:01:22 <Namworld>	almost
Feb 06 04:01:31 <Namworld>	Well it was a bit messy
Feb 06 04:02:39 <midnightmagic>	Uglux: Are you implying amazingrando, presenting his uncertainty, is therefore competent?
Feb 06 04:04:25 <midnightmagic>	Uglux: Or are you providing an explanation as to why so many BTC enterprises are utter failures?
Feb 06 04:04:35 <Uglux>	this
Feb 06 04:05:03 <Uglux>	including dmc 1.0 ;)
Feb 06 04:05:09 <Namworld>	I think he's implying is certainty making promises and then the realization he's pretty much sold all the hashing with no room for expenses or something like that...
Feb 06 04:05:13 <midnightmagic>	Uglux: It would have been only slightly more awesome if you were making a comment about comments. :)
Feb 06 04:06:25 <midnightmagic>	Uglux: Thanks for a technical-sounding name for a cognitive bias so I can point it out in people now without worrying that [Danyone is going to understand me.
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Feb 06 04:09:56 <mircea_popescu>	good morning babies
Feb 06 04:10:00 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 06 04:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0052 / 0.00571875 / 0.0071999 (1023620 shares, 5,853.84 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00564367 / 0.007395 (2683465 shares, 15,144.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00516574 / 0.0075 (7840852 shares, 40,503.87 BTC)
Feb 06 04:10:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2494 @ 0.00068925 = 1.719 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:10:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16968 @ 0.00069191 = 11.7403 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:10:22 <truffles>	what did u have for breakfast mircea?
Feb 06 04:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	hazelnuts so far
Feb 06 04:11:29 <midnightmagic>	eat walnuts they're better for you
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Feb 06 04:11:44 <midnightmagic>	:-D
Feb 06 04:11:44 <mircea_popescu>	some of this, some of that you know ?
Feb 06 04:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	can't alwasy have the same thing
Feb 06 04:11:50 <truffles>	guess thats how you stay not fat
Feb 06 04:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	these are nice cause they're fresh, in shell
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Feb 06 04:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	truffles you kidding me ? one of the girls is doing a diet, calculated my intake last week
Feb 06 04:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	i do ~25k calories a week
Feb 06 04:12:38 <truffles>	ure on a diet?
Feb 06 04:13:19 <truffles>	who knew gaining weight was so easy, i could major in that
Feb 06 04:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	im not gaining any so far lol
Feb 06 04:13:42 <midnightmagic>	It's unfortunate it's not a question of pure caloric intake.
Feb 06 04:13:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6183 @ 0.00069349 = 4.2878 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:13:54 <Diablo-D3>	[04:05:03] <Uglux> including dmc 1.0 ;)
Feb 06 04:14:01 <Diablo-D3>	dmc 1.0 did not die because of expenditures
Feb 06 04:14:15 <Diablo-D3>	hell, I didnt even pay myself
Feb 06 04:14:22 <Namworld>	Everyone is guilty of everything, unless proven otherwise
Feb 06 04:14:34 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: sometimes I feel this is what bitcoin has turned into
Feb 06 04:14:48 *	truffles is guilty of procrastinating
Feb 06 04:15:06 <midnightmagic>	What do you mean "turned into"? :-)
Feb 06 04:15:19 <Uglux>	he means this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
Feb 06 04:16:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 19 @ 0.1268 = 2.4092 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:16:39 <truffles>	seems like lots of room for scams in a btc system
Feb 06 04:16:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 11 @ 0.1284 = 1.4124 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:16:43 <midnightmagic>	Uglux: Don't you mean this: http://lesswrong.com/lw/6p6/the_limits_of_introspection/
Feb 06 04:16:55 <Diablo-D3>	lesswrong++
Feb 06 04:17:13 *	Diablo-D3 checks a certain site, is sad that there is not a new chapter
Feb 06 04:17:32 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Ut..  you jinxed it for another three months by mentioning it.
Feb 06 04:17:42 <Diablo-D3>	yes but I didnt say its name
Feb 06 04:17:54 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Doesn't matter, you still mentioned it. :)
Feb 06 04:17:58 <Diablo-D3>	damnit :<
Feb 06 04:18:04 <midnightmagic>	hee hee
Feb 06 04:18:24 <midnightmagic>	seriously though we should ransom new chapters out of him
Feb 06 04:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10434 @ 0.00069349 = 7.2359 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00069362 = 7.5605 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:18:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12146 @ 0.00069592 = 8.4526 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:18:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5893 @ 0.00069681 = 4.1063 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7693 @ 0.00069756 = 5.3663 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00069284 = 1.7321 BTC [-]
Feb 06 04:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4138 @ 0.00069284 = 2.867 BTC [-]
Feb 06 04:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006809 = 2.9422 BTC [-]
Feb 06 04:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10751 @ 0.00068072 = 7.3184 BTC [-]
Feb 06 04:32:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12299 @ 0.00068072 = 8.3722 BTC [-]
Feb 06 04:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00067872 = 1.086 BTC [-]
Feb 06 04:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00067613 = 6.288 BTC [-]
Feb 06 04:37:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00632911 = 2.5316 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:40:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069746 = 3.0137 BTC [+]
Feb 06 04:40:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79 @ 0.00069756 = 0.0551 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 04:47:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/because-most-people-are-idiots-in-spite-of-never-manning-up-and-admitting-to-it/
Feb 06 04:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	mpex faq modified accordingly. sorry everyone.
Feb 06 04:50:19 <truffles>	faq's are like fine prints who reads that
Feb 06 04:50:51 <truffles>	"If you are one of the others, who cnat even wtire" spellcheck
Feb 06 04:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's deliberate.
Feb 06 04:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	cnat raed, cnat wtire.
Feb 06 04:52:31 <truffles>	umk
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Feb 06 04:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00623517 = 1.247 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 04:56:20 <truffles>	but really why hate on stupid people, who else will gobble up these s.dice things : D
Feb 06 04:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Feb 06 04:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	having to sort through people to find the unstupid ones is everyone's main time/moneywaster.
Feb 06 04:58:03 <truffles>	just avoid ppl no wasting done
Feb 06 04:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	no matter what you're doing, trying to buy a new car, get married, get a job or hire someone, anything and everything you do
Feb 06 04:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	most of your time and effort is expended fighting off the waves of stupid.
Feb 06 04:58:56 <truffles>	a world of too smart is not good for me though
Feb 06 04:59:19 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't have to be too smart or smart at all
Feb 06 04:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	just... not stupid.
Feb 06 04:59:35 <truffles>	but then id be the dumbest!
Feb 06 04:59:45 <truffles>	lol
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Feb 06 04:59:59 <mircea_popescu>	on which topic, i kinda love odolvlobo telling evoorhees "you are wrong on all counts"
Feb 06 05:00:04 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... yeah, im sure he is.
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Feb 06 05:01:08 <truffles>	think about, if everyone was not dumb wont the pole shift for stupidity
Feb 06 05:01:13 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 06 05:01:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13699 @ 0.00068259 = 9.3508 BTC [-]
Feb 06 05:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	there's no continuum from stupid to smart.
Feb 06 05:01:23 <mircea_popescu>	stupidity is its own thing
Feb 06 05:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	you're asking me "o, but if cancer were cured wouldnt the pole shift for being healthy"
Feb 06 05:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	no, it wouldn't.
Feb 06 05:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	the pole for dieing a horrible, disfiguring painful death would, maybe.
Feb 06 05:02:05 <truffles>	assuming we have a somewhat stupidity scale before the no stupid ppl
Feb 06 05:02:13 <mircea_popescu>	there's no scale.
Feb 06 05:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's a thing
Feb 06 05:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's not like being short, it's like being dead
Feb 06 05:02:38 <truffles>	not the same thing
Feb 06 05:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	you either are or are not
Feb 06 05:03:31 <truffles>	im not sure what we're discussing now heh
Feb 06 05:03:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00068594 = 7.8883 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:03:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16328 @ 0.00069756 = 11.3898 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:03:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0006976 = 11.7894 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:03:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8176 @ 0.00069804 = 5.7072 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:03:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00069908 = 3.7401 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15046 @ 0.00069913 = 10.5191 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:04:01 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Feb 06 05:04:03 <truffles>	i see the whole stupid ppl thing as lack of resources or lack of access to info
Feb 06 05:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	not at all.
Feb 06 05:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	being stupid is a deliberate, internalized deffect.
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Feb 06 05:04:26 <mircea_popescu>	it can not be fixed with resources or info.
Feb 06 05:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	it can be fixed in some cases with a beating, provided it's serious enough to scare them shitless.
Feb 06 05:04:42 <truffles>	thats a bias on your part
Feb 06 05:04:45 <mircea_popescu>	but in most cases, it can not be fixed at all
Feb 06 05:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's not bias on my part. it'd be nice if it were, sure.
Feb 06 05:05:14 <truffles>	unless ure talking about retards..
Feb 06 05:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	no, i'm not.
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Feb 06 05:05:46 <truffles>	then id say u dont like ppl with your set iq preferences
Feb 06 05:05:52 <truffles>	without*
Feb 06 05:06:37 <mircea_popescu>	it has nothing to do with iq
Feb 06 05:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	again, being stupid is not a continuum with being smart. it is a property.
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Feb 06 05:07:15 <truffles>	object to this definition
Feb 06 05:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	so go ahead, object.
Feb 06 05:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 851 @ 0.00068545 = 0.5833 BTC [-]
Feb 06 05:07:43 <truffles>	i did
Feb 06 05:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	aite then :)
Feb 06 05:08:37 <truffles>	my counter points go way off topic..
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Feb 06 05:10:03 <mircea_popescu>	tell you what, i'll make a post out of whis, then you can argue it in the comment section to your heart's content.
Feb 06 05:10:23 <truffles>	nah
Feb 06 05:10:30 <truffles>	id have to create an account
Feb 06 05:10:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006793 = 2.9353 BTC [-]
Feb 06 05:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14079 @ 0.00067912 = 9.5613 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 05:11:12 <truffles>	i do like debating though :)
Feb 06 05:11:22 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: BF topped 1655 BTC 24hr vol ;)
Feb 06 05:11:35 <Ukto>	I know it doesnt hold a candle to mpex, but I thought it was pretty neat. :)
Feb 06 05:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto it's not bad at all.
Feb 06 05:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	pity we can't see it at all.
Feb 06 05:12:24 <Ukto>	sure you can :P
Feb 06 05:12:51 <Ukto>	i made alot of good progress today on my big release
Feb 06 05:12:57 <Ukto>	getting closer to beta testing
Feb 06 05:13:06 <Ukto>	very excited
Feb 06 05:13:39 <Namworld>	It's all S.DICE =/
Feb 06 05:15:12 <truffles>	anyone watched these bitcoin show episodes?
Feb 06 05:16:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 157 @ 0.0062 = 0.9734 BTC [-]
Feb 06 05:17:01 <truffles>	1,863 views on ep 2 so doubt it heh
Feb 06 05:17:32 <Ukto>	Namworld: mostly. heh
Feb 06 05:18:14 <Ukto>	you can say the same thing for btct atm though
Feb 06 05:18:19 <Ukto>	it just happens to the be highest trader
Feb 06 05:18:20 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 06 05:18:29 <Ukto>	once sdice calms down
Feb 06 05:18:33 <Ukto>	other assets iwll pick back up again
Feb 06 05:18:38 <Ukto>	on both sites
Feb 06 05:20:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5844 @ 0.00068123 = 3.9811 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:20:07 <Namworld>	Probably
Feb 06 05:20:21 <Namworld>	I wonder who BitVPS holders are
Feb 06 05:20:35 <Ukto>	hm ?
Feb 06 05:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	won't be a mystery for long
Feb 06 05:21:04 <Namworld>	I'll only get a gpg key fingerprint with holding
Feb 06 05:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	ya.
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Feb 06 05:21:20 <Ukto>	sounds like claimings gonna be a pain for you :/
Feb 06 05:21:23 <mircea_popescu>	a i see what you mea
Feb 06 05:21:23 <mircea_popescu>	n
Feb 06 05:21:35 <Namworld>	Actually, all already know how to use gpg
Feb 06 05:21:44 <Ukto>	no, i ment for you
Feb 06 05:21:46 <Namworld>	Since they used MPEx to get them
Feb 06 05:21:47 <Ukto>	to manually verify each one hehe
Feb 06 05:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	why ? he just gets signed statements
Feb 06 05:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	what's to verify ?
Feb 06 05:22:05 <Ukto>	the sig mebbe ? heh
Feb 06 05:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	ya well that sounds like a pain sure
Feb 06 05:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 06 05:22:18 <Ukto>	LOL
Feb 06 05:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	awk will suffer greatly.
Feb 06 05:22:25 <Ukto>	but thats security.
Feb 06 05:22:36 <Namworld>	To transfer people, they'll need to sign me their BTCT.co account username.
Feb 06 05:22:48 <Namworld>	I'll have to get and verify these.
Feb 06 05:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld might be an idea to make a preemptive explanation of what happens
Feb 06 05:22:56 <Ukto>	can prolly script something up
Feb 06 05:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	so people know before the 15tyh
Feb 06 05:23:21 <error4733>	"f it were practical I’d just kill them all with my own hand. Unfortunately, it is not practical" haha you'r crazy
Feb 06 05:23:51 <Ukto>	Namworld: wonder how feasable it would be for burnside to build in gpg verification for you ?
Feb 06 05:24:24 <Ukto>	certinly would save a lot of effort
Feb 06 05:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 lalala
Feb 06 05:24:43 <Ukto>	then again, if theres not that many holders, its not a big deal I guess
Feb 06 05:25:04 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto prolly a little difficult cause people might not get the syntax right
Feb 06 05:25:49 <Ukto>	bah, a little js "fill in the fields and do X"
Feb 06 05:25:50 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 06 05:26:10 <Namworld>	BitVPS has somewhere around 730k
Feb 06 05:26:18 <Namworld>	I have around 125k
Feb 06 05:26:18 <Ukto>	how many shareholders MP ?
Feb 06 05:26:26 <error4733>	no offense, it's fun.
Feb 06 05:26:52 <error4733>	and total agree
Feb 06 05:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	well, the gpg part. how do they verify ?
Feb 06 05:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea.
Feb 06 05:27:06 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 it's pretty hard to offend me
Feb 06 05:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	it has to be said, you know ? this regurgitated fake consensus of "o, everyone's speshul" is inadequate to explain the complexity of reality.
Feb 06 05:27:40 <Ukto>	i mean, how would Namworld verify their shares manually?
Feb 06 05:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine send burnside a list of names and shares ? dunno how btctc works
Feb 06 05:28:26 <Ukto>	well, i guess your sending the share amuont + fingerprint
Feb 06 05:28:28 <Ukto>	right?
Feb 06 05:28:57 <Ukto>	so the gpg stuff, user just has to sign a simple msg, and fingerprint should match
Feb 06 05:29:35 <Ukto>	anyawys, i'm tired. prolly going on for nothing. just trying to give some ideas to make life easy
Feb 06 05:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Feb 06 05:29:43 <Ukto>	ignore me :)
Feb 06 05:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2631 @ 0.00068123 = 1.7923 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:31:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006817 = 2.9456 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:31:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1948 @ 0.00068181 = 1.3282 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:33:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 285 @ 0.0062 = 1.767 BTC [-]
Feb 06 05:36:03 <Namworld>	Any S.BVPS holder? You can contact me right away with a signed statement containing your BTCT.co username
Feb 06 05:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10592 @ 0.00068181 = 7.2217 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:40:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 353 @ 0.00068181 = 0.2407 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:42:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15247 @ 0.00068339 = 10.4196 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2803 @ 0.00067912 = 1.9036 BTC [-]
Feb 06 05:43:31 <Namworld>	You can mail it at the email seen on BTCT.co
Feb 06 05:48:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2000 @ 0.0062 = 12.4 BTC
Feb 06 05:49:50 <Namworld>	I will need to transfer that quickly to MPEx if I'm to buy more share.
Feb 06 05:50:21 <Namworld>	I expect price to climb back to .007 later and would certainly like to sell another batch then
Feb 06 05:50:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00068522 = 5.9272 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:50:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00068738 = 8.5923 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:51:04 <Namworld>	Otherwise it feels like a loss =/
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Feb 06 05:53:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 363 @ 0.0015999 = 0.5808 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 637 @ 0.0015999 = 1.0191 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:54:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1000 @ 0.0016 = 1.6 BTC
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Feb 06 05:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00068738 = 0.6874 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:55:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.0007 = 0.7 BTC
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Feb 06 05:56:38 <Namworld>	burnside
Feb 06 05:57:13 <Namworld>	the fact you can't enter more than 4 digits after the dot... kind of doesn't support S.MPOE-PT for pricing.
Feb 06 05:57:25 <Namworld>	Why is it limited to 4 digits anyway?
Feb 06 05:57:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00068738 = 2.887 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16249 @ 0.00068891 = 11.1941 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 573 @ 0.00069172 = 0.3964 BTC [+]
Feb 06 05:57:48 <Namworld>	Ah well
Feb 06 05:58:06 <Namworld>	Looks like I'm talking alone.
Feb 06 05:58:14 <Diablo-D3>	yes, I see no one else talking
Feb 06 05:58:23 <Ukto>	weird, usually thats me. lol
Feb 06 06:01:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2193 @ 0.00069172 = 1.5169 BTC [+]
Feb 06 06:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 457 @ 0.00069652 = 0.3183 BTC [+]
Feb 06 06:03:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00069652 = 6.9304 BTC [+]
Feb 06 06:05:06 <Namworld>	Well I guess I'll be off then. Night everyone.
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Feb 06 06:25:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0062 = 6.2 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 06:28:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00069192 = 0.5881 BTC [-]
Feb 06 06:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50 @ 0.00068681 = 0.0343 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 06:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.00068681 = 9.9244 BTC [-]
Feb 06 06:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18982 @ 0.00068466 = 12.9962 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 06:52:44 <mjr_>	wow quiet
Feb 06 06:52:48 <mjr_>	a little too quiet
Feb 06 06:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00068601 = 7.7519 BTC [+]
Feb 06 06:54:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00068466 = 0.9585 BTC [-]
Feb 06 07:01:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-]
Feb 06 07:01:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.68 = 6.12 BTC [-]
Feb 06 07:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	welll... it's the middle of the night
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Feb 06 07:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 773 @ 0.00069327 = 0.5359 BTC [+]
Feb 06 07:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2306 @ 0.00069328 = 1.5987 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 07:14:42 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... inaba is now "definitely" on the 22nd
Feb 06 07:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	someone's going to make a lot of btc on http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Feb 06 07:15:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.685 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 07:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 773 @ 0.00069081 = 0.534 BTC [-]
Feb 06 07:17:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8519 @ 0.0006908 = 5.8849 BTC [-]
Feb 06 07:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9444 @ 0.00069328 = 6.5473 BTC [+]
Feb 06 07:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6406 @ 0.00069394 = 4.4454 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 07:28:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00069394 = 4.0942 BTC [+]
Feb 06 07:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.0006908 = 1.6579 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 07:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 773 @ 0.00069393 = 0.5364 BTC [+]
Feb 06 07:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4682 @ 0.00069394 = 3.249 BTC [+]
Feb 06 07:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1845 @ 0.00069652 = 1.2851 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 07:40:17 <jurov>	anyone understood how Namworld is planning it?
Feb 06 07:42:40 <DeaDTerra1>	planning what?
Feb 06 07:42:50 <pigeons>	sounds like you give your signed statement to burnside and he matches it with a list he got from MP or Namworld and gives you shares?
Feb 06 07:43:08 <jurov>	for delisting of S.BVPS and moving to btct
Feb 06 07:43:14 <DeaDTerra1>	ah
Feb 06 07:43:52 <jurov>	pigeons, i'm thinking how to proceed with coinbr users
Feb 06 07:44:18 <jurov>	prolly i add a field to enter their btct username
Feb 06 07:44:32 <jurov>	and they'll have to do it till Feb 15
Feb 06 07:45:01 <pigeons>	if enough people bet you wont, just scam and get the tag so you win the bet ;)dont forget service fee ;)
Feb 06 07:45:11 <pigeons>	oops that was weird
Feb 06 07:45:12 <jurov>	oh and i'll disable further buying of s.bvps.
Feb 06 07:45:21 <pigeons>	i meant dont forget service fee
Feb 06 07:45:26 <jurov>	jeeeez, thee's a scammer bet on me? where?
Feb 06 07:45:38 <pigeons>	no that was up arrow from talking to usagi earlier
Feb 06 07:45:39 <pigeons>	haha
Feb 06 07:46:07 <jurov>	lol
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Feb 06 07:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 776 @ 0.00069081 = 0.5361 BTC [-]
Feb 06 07:51:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22709 @ 0.0006908 = 15.6874 BTC [-]
Feb 06 07:51:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00068951 = 4.7576 BTC [-]
Feb 06 07:51:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1915 @ 0.00068948 = 1.3204 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:02:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.699 = 13.98 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:02:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.7 = 7 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:02:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.7 = 3.5 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:03:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00069631 = 7.7639 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 08:11:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.995 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 08:12:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:12:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:13:13 <pigeons>	http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/02/06/171182974/is-online-gambling-legal-if-bitcoins-not-dollars-are-at-stake
Feb 06 08:13:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 7 @ 0.926 = 6.482 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:13:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.926 = 1.852 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:14:27 <awkorama_>	pigeons: interesting article
Feb 06 08:14:44 <awkorama_>	still doesn't answer the question, though
Feb 06 08:15:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 8 @ 0.925 = 7.4 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:15:28 <pigeons>	the question is irrelevant
Feb 06 08:15:48 <awkorama_>	elaborate, please
Feb 06 08:16:16 <pigeons>	who cares?
Feb 06 08:16:30 <awkorama_>	gambling sites probably do
Feb 06 08:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17zq8j/because_most_people_are_idiots_in_spite_of_never/
Feb 06 08:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	this is going over well.
Feb 06 08:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what reddit will do once they discover that added together they all mean nothing at all.
Feb 06 08:17:46 <awkorama_>	mircea_popescu: I take it you don't like reddit much.
Feb 06 08:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	i don't care much either way.
Feb 06 08:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	it is kind of amusing tho
Feb 06 08:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	or to quote the pr chick, " it's hard to believe these assholes are so upset at the idea that someone else is an asshole... actually, it makes perfect sense doesn't it."
Feb 06 08:21:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 498 @ 0.00620895 = 3.0921 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 08:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 776 @ 0.0006963 = 0.5403 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8474 @ 0.00069631 = 5.9005 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:33:56 <mjr_>	did you see my response on reddit mp?
Feb 06 08:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	nope ?
Feb 06 08:35:34 <jurov>	hahahahaha Nefario the CEO has been detained by the SEC for fraud, closing the website and taking all of the investors money and shares.
Feb 06 08:35:38 <jurov>	^^ http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4983/why-did-glbse-close
Feb 06 08:36:23 <mircea_popescu>	uh ?! that is nonsense
Feb 06 08:37:13 <jurov>	it got me... reading these quite reasonable replies and suddenly on the bottom, this
Feb 06 08:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 06 08:37:29 <mircea_popescu>	the alines did it
Feb 06 08:38:16 <jurov>	HE CLOSED THE WEBSITE AND TOOK ALL SHARES
Feb 06 08:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1377 @ 0.00069238 = 0.9534 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 782 @ 0.00068949 = 0.5392 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:38:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15441 @ 0.00068948 = 10.6463 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	no it was the aliens
Feb 06 08:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	"Edit: NO ONE SHOULD TRUST MPEX WITH 50000. Just using as an example. I wouldn't trust MPEX with 5 cents personally."
Feb 06 08:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	right, there's what, 20k btc lying around at the moment ?
Feb 06 08:40:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00068948 = 14.1343 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	clearly reddit has a point.
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Feb 06 08:41:39 <jurov>	In other news: Nefario found in Death Valley dehydrated, with amnesia and with strange scar on forehead"
Feb 06 08:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	no aliens do anal probing
Feb 06 08:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	what would they want inside his head ?
Feb 06 08:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00069601 = 8.2825 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5676 @ 0.00069631 = 3.9523 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:44:00 <pigeons>	i thought they mutilated cattle
Feb 06 08:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3624 @ 0.00069652 = 2.5242 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:46:13 <jurov>	or maybe it was not abduction. nef just returned home
Feb 06 08:46:19 <jurov>	like elvis
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Feb 06 08:53:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1374 @ 0.00069652 = 0.957 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069912 = 3.0209 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:53:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069912 = 3.0209 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:53:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8934 @ 0.00069913 = 6.246 BTC [+]
Feb 06 08:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3405 @ 0.00068948 = 2.3477 BTC [-]
Feb 06 08:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 895 @ 0.00068945 = 0.6171 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 08:58:10 <kakobrekla>	http://i.imgur.com/YoatKlh.gif
Feb 06 08:58:17 <kakobrekla>	bump.
Feb 06 08:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Feb 06 08:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	bombs don't kill people
Feb 06 08:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	people kill people.
Feb 06 08:59:07 <kakobrekla>	:D
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Feb 06 09:01:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 782 @ 0.00069912 = 0.5467 BTC [+]
Feb 06 09:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13220 @ 0.00069913 = 9.2425 BTC [+]
Feb 06 09:01:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6796 @ 0.00069948 = 4.7537 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 09:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7580 @ 0.00620002 = 46.9962 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:06:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 54959 @ 0.0062 = 340.7458 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:10:01 <pizzaman1337>	looks like somebody cashed in their S.DICE gains
Feb 06 09:10:14 <thestringpuller>	for now
Feb 06 09:10:23 <thestringpuller>	someone is closing shorts
Feb 06 09:10:59 <pizzaman1337>	how do you short?
Feb 06 09:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5604 @ 0.00069948 = 3.9199 BTC [+]
Feb 06 09:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069995 = 3.4998 BTC [+]
Feb 06 09:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6634 @ 0.00069996 = 4.6435 BTC [+]
Feb 06 09:11:11 <pigeons>	manually borrow the shares from someone
Feb 06 09:11:13 <thestringpuller>	you borrow shares from someone
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Feb 06 09:11:32 <pizzaman1337>	ok, just checking to make sure MPEx wouldn't do it for you...
Feb 06 09:11:49 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu isn't that nice
Feb 06 09:12:09 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Feb 06 09:12:19 <pizzaman1337>	it'd be risky on his end
Feb 06 09:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3426 @ 0.00068945 = 2.3621 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:13:09 <jurov>	announcement for coinbr users: http://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/s-bvps-delists-soon-action-from-shareholders-required-till-february-15th/
Feb 06 09:13:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3374 @ 0.00068707 = 2.3182 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:13:11 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu in regards to what you get -> http://i.imgur.com/kT4NySa.gif
Feb 06 09:13:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 06 09:13:43 <jurov>	heh
Feb 06 09:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if that reddit thing goes over 100 comments of pure spazz
Feb 06 09:14:39 <thestringpuller>	come again mp?
Feb 06 09:18:20 <pigeons>	mp is suprised that when he says stupid people should die, people take his bait
Feb 06 09:19:35 <thestringpuller>	mp have you ever read enders game?
Feb 06 09:19:41 <thestringpuller>	or you pigeons?
Feb 06 09:20:53 <pigeons>	yes
Feb 06 09:21:08 <thestringpuller>	dragon army was full of stupid people before ender trained them
Feb 06 09:21:40 <thestringpuller>	simply put, the people are only as stupid as the current leadership
Feb 06 09:22:37 <pigeons>	i dont think ther eis disagreement with the people are stupoid part, its the conclusion that therefore they should die that brings the fun
Feb 06 09:22:46 <maximian>	That reddit thread made me giggle like a country moron… highly entertaining
Feb 06 09:23:01 <pigeons>	maximian: where are you from?
Feb 06 09:23:14 <maximian>	canada
Feb 06 09:23:24 <pigeons>	we say giggle like a city moron
Feb 06 09:23:39 <maximian>	where's that?
Feb 06 09:23:44 <pigeons>	the Carolinas
Feb 06 09:23:47 <maximian>	heheh
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Feb 06 09:25:45 <thestringpuller>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17yjm6/what_is_bitcoin/
Feb 06 09:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	maximian indeed :D
Feb 06 09:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons o, i am not surprised. im amused.
Feb 06 09:27:21 <maximian>	It is interesting that people actually care whether or not the owner of a business is a nice guy
Feb 06 09:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068742 = 2.9703 BTC [+]
Feb 06 09:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5877 @ 0.00068708 = 4.038 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1602 @ 0.00068707 = 1.1007 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	well that's because they think that the owner of a business didn't make that business.
Feb 06 09:28:00 <kakobrekla>	some people buy the why not the what.
Feb 06 09:28:16 <maximian>	I mean, I have no idea if the CEO of Sony is a fucking asshole, and I don't care, but I still buy their stuff now and then
Feb 06 09:28:27 <pigeons>	i have an idea he is
Feb 06 09:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	i think the onlysony item i ever owned was a walkman back in like 85
Feb 06 09:31:23 <pigeons>	i'm going to start calling ipods "walkman" now just cause i know apple people will like that
Feb 06 09:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4024 @ 0.00068707 = 2.7648 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:31:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00068689 = 6.9376 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1818 @ 0.00068466 = 1.2447 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 258 @ 0.00068438 = 0.1766 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:31:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Feb 06 09:32:09 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu how old are you? you must be pushing 50
Feb 06 09:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	i am pushing 50 in the shape of two 25yos
Feb 06 09:32:28 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Feb 06 09:32:51 <thestringpuller>	25 + 25 = 50
Feb 06 09:32:55 <thestringpuller>	omg a revelation!
Feb 06 09:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	double d's + shapely c's = titsoup.
Feb 06 09:34:56 <EskimoBob_afk>	LOL, I guess people are slowly (lets hope not too lowly) starting to realize what a asshole this mircea_popescu character really is
Feb 06 09:35:12 <EskimoBob_afk>	it's about fkn time, boys and girls :)
Feb 06 09:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18542 @ 0.00068438 = 12.6898 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3458 @ 0.00068225 = 2.3592 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:35:50 <thestringpuller>	If you want clear evidence of the insanity, the Apple Store requires that you register with govt if your app uses any crypto (including https, some people ignore that but some have written blog posts about trying to follow the rules) UNLESS your app is for banking/financial transactions, then you are exempt from registering and providing algos, code, descriptions, etc of your app's use of crypto. Figure that one 
Feb 06 09:36:47 *	Guest6578 is now known as Bugpowdurr
Feb 06 09:37:31 <thestringpuller>	My favorite neurosurgeon :P
Feb 06 09:37:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 492 @ 0.00068225 = 0.3357 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00068115 = 1.7029 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:37:39 <thestringpuller>	locked out of his name
Feb 06 09:37:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068043 = 2.9401 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:37:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9337 @ 0.00068042 = 6.3531 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:37:50 <Bugpowdurr>	too lazy to ghost
Feb 06 09:38:27 *	EskimoBob_afk is now known as EskimoBob
Feb 06 09:38:33 <thestringpuller>	cuttin' up mouse brains all day is exhausting you deserve it
Feb 06 09:38:49 <thestringpuller>	but in all seriousness I do admire your background in biology
Feb 06 09:39:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00620895 = 2.794 BTC [+]
Feb 06 09:40:21 <EskimoBob>	buttfloss boy, what are you blabbering about?
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Feb 06 09:41:36 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowdurr is a neurosurgeon, i was getting a degree in bioinformatics. Biochemistry is one of the most fascinating things in the universe non?
Feb 06 09:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14156 @ 0.00068042 = 9.632 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:41:50 <thestringpuller>	Or do you hate on biology as well EskimoBob ?
Feb 06 09:42:51 <thestringpuller>	http://blockchain.info/address/1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
Feb 06 09:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2766 @ 0.00069996 = 1.9361 BTC [+]
Feb 06 09:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1034 @ 0.00069997 = 0.7238 BTC [+]
Feb 06 09:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16807 @ 0.00068042 = 11.4358 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:45:39 <truffles>	neurosurgeon? amazing
Feb 06 09:45:49 <thestringpuller>	mouse neurosurgeon*
Feb 06 09:45:55 <truffles>	bleh
Feb 06 09:46:07 <thestringpuller>	mice are replaceable humans aren't :P
Feb 06 09:46:21 <truffles>	mircea got lots of ppl to debate him now great
Feb 06 09:46:31 <thestringpuller>	on reddit?
Feb 06 09:46:36 <truffles>	yea
Feb 06 09:46:50 <truffles>	unless he considers them stupid ppl
Feb 06 09:46:55 <thestringpuller>	which post?
Feb 06 09:47:07 <truffles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17zq8j/because_most_people_are_idiots_in_spite_of_never/
Feb 06 09:47:36 <truffles>	not enough hours in the day, so much to do!
Feb 06 09:48:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0062 = 6.2 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:48:32 <EskimoBob>	"Bugpowdurr is a neurosurgeon" Really? This is cool!
Feb 06 09:48:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0062 = 6.2 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol is it over 100 yet ?
Feb 06 09:50:25 <EskimoBob>	truffles: I was just reading this. I am not surprised at all, that more and more people find mircea to be a disgusting little shit.
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Feb 06 09:51:56 <maximian>	He happens to make us a shit-wad of money - my favourite kind of digusting little shit!
Feb 06 09:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	"The whole point of bitcoin is OPENNESS. FREEDOM. NO GOVERNMENTS.
Feb 06 09:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	YOU ARE THE OPPOSITE OF THAT. I HATE YOU. GO DIE FUCKER."
Feb 06 09:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Feb 06 09:52:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.0242 = 0.605 BTC [+]
Feb 06 09:52:33 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... lol.
Feb 06 09:52:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0241 = 0.241 BTC [-]
Feb 06 09:53:54 <thestringpuller>	the stocks never lie, lets see what the shadowy investors of s.mpoe think throughout the day
Feb 06 09:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	i find the consumer mindset very amusing tho
Feb 06 09:56:35 <thestringpuller>	blame america and it's leadership for that, not capitalism :P
Feb 06 09:57:30 <mircea_popescu>	"I was thinking a real bet could be on the valuation of MPEX. I believe it's worth a lot less than $10 million. I'd have to investigate further, but given that MPEX has under 200 users, and is likely illegal, notwithstanding the fees and the horrendous owner, that it would be worth substantially less than $10 million."
Feb 06 09:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	just wait till they discover that there's precisely two businesses in btc that made over 10k last month.
Feb 06 09:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	no miner, no asic vaporware peddler, no etc on that list.
Feb 06 09:58:09 <truffles>	oh my need tough skin for this business im gonna say
Feb 06 09:58:56 <truffles>	"given teh horrendous owner" hehe
Feb 06 09:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	little old me ?!
Feb 06 09:59:43 <truffles>	im assuming so
Feb 06 09:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	im curious what happens once they're done agreeing with each other.
Feb 06 10:00:05 <truffles>	cirlce jerk
Feb 06 10:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4651 @ 0.00068037 = 3.1644 BTC [-]
Feb 06 10:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068403 = 2.9557 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2422 @ 0.00068404 = 1.6567 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	no homo.
Feb 06 10:03:06 <EskimoBob>	maximian: keep dreaming :) he makes you nothing
Feb 06 10:03:27 <truffles>	lots of allegations mircea what say u in defense
Feb 06 10:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16517 @ 0.00068404 = 11.2983 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 10:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	in my what ?
Feb 06 10:06:18 <EskimoBob>	truffles: defense? LOL, this pompous fuck can stfu now .
Feb 06 10:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1246 @ 0.00068404 = 0.8523 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:06:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069191 = 2.9897 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:06:49 <truffles>	well let me start at the top
Feb 06 10:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00069192 = 8.9258 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:07:44 <truffles>	"Incoming Bitcoin that doesn't exactly match a quoted sum will be simply kept, reported as profits and distributed to MPEx shareholders." small scale scam?
Feb 06 10:08:04 <truffles>	reading the n....homeowners...
Feb 06 10:08:13 <EskimoBob>	as you see, this guy is fkn thieve! What else do you want to know?
Feb 06 10:08:57 <truffles>	so much to read so little time
Feb 06 10:09:17 <truffles>	so whyd peopel invest with at theif!
Feb 06 10:09:56 <EskimoBob>	truffles: they do not invest WITH a thive, but evoorhees was stupid enough to list it over there (he had no other option really)
Feb 06 10:09:59 <ThickAsThieves>	I'm a little out of the loop, but so far it seems like the only accusation on mp is that he isn't kind to people he doesn't like, is that right?
Feb 06 10:10:07 <EskimoBob>	they use his shitty bazaar
Feb 06 10:10:31 <EskimoBob>	how thick?
Feb 06 10:10:34 <EskimoBob>	lol
Feb 06 10:10:40 <truffles>	he doesnt like stupid ppl
Feb 06 10:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	truffles o, that was some drama you missed out on i guess, with the rota and whatnot.
Feb 06 10:11:01 *	truffles likes drama
Feb 06 10:11:05 <ThickAsThieves>	bob: huh?
Feb 06 10:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	mk let me dig it up
Feb 06 10:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rota-post-mortem/
Feb 06 10:11:35 <EskimoBob>	truffles: so this asshole started some type of court and was hoping he can manipulate the "judges" guess what, they told him to fuckk off and pay up the coin he stole
Feb 06 10:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	follow the links, it's prolly 10`000 words at the least.
Feb 06 10:12:17 <maximian>	EskimoBob: don't you own some S.DICE shares?
Feb 06 10:12:32 <ThickAsThieves>	probly asking too much, but why is there a court at all?
Feb 06 10:12:44 <EskimoBob>	then he got all mad and did what? started to give negative ratings to those guys in OT
Feb 06 10:12:56 <EskimoBob>	what a scumbag
Feb 06 10:13:10 <truffles>	to give negative ratings?
Feb 06 10:13:20 <truffles>	mircea no way im reading 10k words !
Feb 06 10:13:23 <truffles>	tl dr
Feb 06 10:14:29 <ThickAsThieves>	so is eskino the guy that lost the 130btc?
Feb 06 10:14:36 <EskimoBob>	truffles: OT "market" and it's rating system http://bitcoin-otc.com/
Feb 06 10:15:01 <maximian>	EskimoBob and this abc523 guy from Reddit both have Mircea Popescu Derangement Syndrome
Feb 06 10:15:48 <EskimoBob>	maximian: Cab you take his dick out of your mouth and say it again. I did not understand, what you mean
Feb 06 10:15:51 <EskimoBob>	can*
Feb 06 10:16:23 <ThickAsThieves>	where does this court get any authority?
Feb 06 10:16:24 <maximian>	you're so obsessed with MP that you''ve gone insane
Feb 06 10:16:50 <EskimoBob>	ThickAsThieves: no idea. I asked once and never got an answer
Feb 06 10:17:22 <EskimoBob>	maximian: obsessed? Not at all. YOU are sucking his dick, not me :)
Feb 06 10:17:23 <maximian>	He's got you on ignore, it's like you're yelling at a wall…. very sad
Feb 06 10:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves it was a sort of an experiment.
Feb 06 10:17:35 <EskimoBob>	maximian: actually not
Feb 06 10:17:52 <EskimoBob>	and I am not yelling at him at all
Feb 06 10:18:03 <ThickAsThieves>	the court thing seems more like a court of public opinion, isn't that the worst kind
Feb 06 10:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it unwittingly worked out like that or something.
Feb 06 10:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	hey, we all make mistakes.
Feb 06 10:18:32 <ThickAsThieves>	i cant see how they could have any real authority or business in other people's bitcoin matters
Feb 06 10:18:41 <ThickAsThieves>	that's the risk in bitcoin
Feb 06 10:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	well, all authority in bitcoin is by competence
Feb 06 10:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	be very VERY good, people will bow to you
Feb 06 10:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	(and obviously redditors will spazz)
Feb 06 10:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which, 104 comments... i guess i win the bet. pity nobody made it
Feb 06 10:19:28 <ThickAsThieves>	the first time i had to send that exact amount, i was scared
Feb 06 10:19:34 <ThickAsThieves>	so i checked myself like 5 times
Feb 06 10:19:43 <ThickAsThieves>	and no issue
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Feb 06 10:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	gpg is like that too. crazy the 1st time
Feb 06 10:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	then you forget its there
Feb 06 10:20:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2764 @ 0.00069934 = 1.933 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:20:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4843 @ 0.00069997 = 3.39 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:20:16 <ThickAsThieves>	while your rule might be unnecessary on some level, it's your platform, your rules
Feb 06 10:20:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1643 @ 0.00069998 = 1.1501 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 10:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	there's very good reasons for it.
Feb 06 10:20:45 <ThickAsThieves>	i can think of some, sure
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Feb 06 10:20:49 <ThickAsThieves>	what is the main one?
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Feb 06 10:21:19 <mjr_>	:-( such trollery on this channel now
Feb 06 10:21:23 <mircea_popescu>	single address allows actual btc anonymity
Feb 06 10:21:31 <mircea_popescu>	but it requires ppl to be identified somehiw.
Feb 06 10:21:31 <mjr_>	just vote with your coins
Feb 06 10:21:39 <mjr_>	you don't want to invest, don't
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Feb 06 10:22:35 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
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Feb 06 10:27:37 <mircea_popescu>	"I'm just, I don't know how I feel about all of this shit.
Feb 06 10:27:37 <mircea_popescu>	I understand the concept between differentiating the broker and exchange. This is an obvious concept. My problem was that I couldn't find a broker for a while. I wasn't aware of their existence until very recently. "
Feb 06 10:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha maximian you've saved a soul.
Feb 06 10:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	the poor guy, he made 50 posts out of sheer frustration... but then he never heard of coinbr.
Feb 06 10:28:00 <truffles>	not gonna mkae it past teh 10th comment
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Feb 06 10:28:35 <truffles>	tl dr verison says " He got two emails telling him the fees are too high and now calls everyone an idiot that "shouldn’t be alive".
Feb 06 10:28:35 <maximian>	yep, I'm trying the gentle touch
Feb 06 10:29:02 <ThickAsThieves>	I don't think the fees are high at all
Feb 06 10:29:03 <mircea_popescu>	the gentle touch always works wonders after mpoe-pr has tore them a few new assholes
Feb 06 10:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	at least from what i've seen
Feb 06 10:29:24 <ThickAsThieves>	expecially considering that you allow passthroughs to be set up
Feb 06 10:29:31 <ThickAsThieves>	especially*
Feb 06 10:29:42 <maximian>	good cop/bad cop
Feb 06 10:30:58 <truffles>	"I find it comfortable that even millionaires like him are apparently not happy or at peace with the world and life." mo money mo probs
Feb 06 10:31:02 <maximian>	I don't even know why I"m trying… pearls to swine
Feb 06 10:31:15 <maximian>	I'm like the anti-MPOE-PR
Feb 06 10:31:15 <truffles>	k thats all on that for me..
Feb 06 10:31:41 <jurov>	.g mpex broker
Feb 06 10:31:52 <jurov>	how is it done?
Feb 06 10:31:57 <jurov>	;;google mpex broker
Feb 06 10:31:58 <gribble>	About CoinBr: <https://coinbr.com/>; [ANN]First online MPEx brokerage now in public beta: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.0>; MPEx - Bitcoin: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MPEx>
Feb 06 10:32:01 <topace_>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 06 10:32:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.56500000 / 0.60291089 / 0.75490000 (1769 shares, 1066.54935876 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.67572383 / 0.89000000 (3932 shares, 2656.94611605 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.62034397 / 0.89000000 (7378 shares, 4576.89783600 BTC)
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Feb 06 10:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : "They aren't publicized well. So I thought the only way to buy shares was through going on mpex. Pretty logical conclusion to draw, really. This is all a wild wild west."
Feb 06 10:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	your failure to adequately advertise has caused the cratering of reddit!
Feb 06 10:36:06 <jurov>	heh.
Feb 06 10:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 06 10:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly, the guy on reddit didn't have enough of a clue to search for something logical
Feb 06 10:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	you need "buy sdice"
Feb 06 10:36:44 <mircea_popescu>	or "herpderp"
Feb 06 10:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	"mpex broker" is for a different crowd.
Feb 06 10:36:57 <jurov>	i do add comments about coinbr where necessary, just i often came late, outside reddit attention span
Feb 06 10:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;google herpderp
Feb 06 10:37:16 <gribble>	Urban Dictionary: herp derp: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herp%20derp>; Harp Darp / Herp Derp | Know Your Meme: <http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/harp-darp-herp-derp>; Herp Derp YouTube Comments | Tanner's Website: <http://www.tannr.com/herp-derp-youtube-comments/>
Feb 06 10:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	prolly the only keyword that makes money atm
Feb 06 10:38:10 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: his pattern (abc523) is to freak out and write a million angry comments, then learn some kernel of truth that calms him down, then write a mea culpa, then delete his comments.
Feb 06 10:38:22 <jurov>	ill gladly license teh code to someone who will operate mpex brokerage with herpderp SEO
Feb 06 10:38:35 <maximian>	He did it the other day in the thread about the new s.dice branch at 0.044
Feb 06 10:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	maximian o, you know him ?!
Feb 06 10:39:16 <maximian>	know, I just remember him from a couple of days ago… went ballistic about the s.dice price being 0.0044, then spoke with evoorhees on Skype, then calmed down
Feb 06 10:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 06 10:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	erik does have this property
Feb 06 10:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2678 @ 0.00069998 = 1.8745 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:39:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19422 @ 0.00069999 = 13.5952 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:39:53 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine we see here at work the alienation of postmodern society
Feb 06 10:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	people so far removed from human contact they are going ballistic much like a dog stuck locked in a basement or something
Feb 06 10:40:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 85 @ 0.0062 = 0.527 BTC [-]
Feb 06 10:40:47 <jurov>	i'm looking forward to the day when i'll gleefully post this to reddit: http://live.coinbr.com/images/Reddit_20121016_Trading%20on%20biggest%20bitcoin%20stock%20exchange%20now%20easy.png
Feb 06 10:42:20 <jurov>	i just had to make the screenhot how cordially it was welcomed by "teh community"
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Feb 06 10:43:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3833 @ 0.00069907 = 2.6795 BTC [-]
Feb 06 10:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006894 = 2.9789 BTC [-]
Feb 06 10:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7896 @ 0.00068939 = 5.4434 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 10:48:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069998 = 3.0246 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6517 @ 0.00069999 = 4.5618 BTC [+]
Feb 06 10:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol. why the need for a broker ?!?!?!?
Feb 06 10:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	omg MPEx fees and gpg and asshole MP!!!!!!1
Feb 06 10:56:46 <jborkl>	+1
Feb 06 10:56:49 <jborkl>	lol
Feb 06 10:58:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0062 = 12.4 BTC [-]
Feb 06 10:59:36 <maximian>	evoorhees: any decision on the price of the next tranche?
Feb 06 10:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	i recall seeing 62
Feb 06 10:59:53 <maximian>	ok, missed that
Feb 06 11:01:04 <pizzaman1337>	maximian: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1507018#msg1507018
Feb 06 11:01:14 <maximian>	thx
Feb 06 11:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00069999 = 15.4698 BTC [+]
Feb 06 11:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 322 @ 0.25536656 = 82.228 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:04:29 <DeadWeasel_>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1337606#msg1337606
Feb 06 11:04:41 <DeadWeasel_>	learning is fun@
Feb 06 11:04:42 <DeadWeasel_>	!
Feb 06 11:06:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00069999 = 7.7349 BTC [+]
Feb 06 11:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Feb 06 11:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	new people have so much to read as it is...
Feb 06 11:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how bitcoin will be in 2100
Feb 06 11:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	terrabytes of accumulated history...
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Feb 06 11:12:01 <truffles>	replaced by amazon coins by 2050
Feb 06 11:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol such fail that amazon thingy.
Feb 06 11:13:03 <truffles>	i bet it will be easier to understand
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Feb 06 11:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	does it have a blockchain ?
Feb 06 11:15:00 <error4733>	look at 2015
Feb 06 11:15:04 <error4733>	more safe
Feb 06 11:15:13 <truffles>	dunno
Feb 06 11:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, store coupons aren't competition for bitcoin any more than chowchows are antitank weapons.
Feb 06 11:17:24 <maximian>	depends how fast the chowchow is moving
Feb 06 11:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	i posit that no matter how fast it is moving
Feb 06 11:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	it still won't penetrate armor
Feb 06 11:17:44 <truffles>	dunno whats a chowchow
Feb 06 11:17:48 <maximian>	20km/s ought to do it :
Feb 06 11:17:55 <maximian>	chowchow from outer space
Feb 06 11:18:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://blog.sfgate.com/pets/2009/11/06/breed-of-the-week-the-chow-chow/ this
Feb 06 11:19:19 <truffles>	ahh im more of a cat person
Feb 06 11:19:31 <maximian>	actually that's a good question for xkcd's What If? section: Would a chowchow moving at 20km/s penetrate the armor of an Abrams tank?
Feb 06 11:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	i think we can safely asume that since solid steel won't perforate modern armor
Feb 06 11:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	neither will a dog.
Feb 06 11:20:25 <maximian>	there has to be some speed where it would
Feb 06 11:20:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3111 @ 0.00069252 = 2.1544 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:20:38 <mircea_popescu>	nah cause the composite ceramic stuff makes it crack up and break apart
Feb 06 11:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	obviously there is some size where a 500 ton projectile flatens the tank anyway
Feb 06 11:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	though meteor effect if nothing else
Feb 06 11:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	but i never saw a 500 ton chowchow
Feb 06 11:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1210 @ 0.00069252 = 0.8379 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:21:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2690 @ 0.00069247 = 1.8627 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	tho it'd be quite the sight
Feb 06 11:22:26 <maximian>	a hilarious/frightening sight
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Feb 06 11:24:39 <DeadWeasel_>	500 ton chow chow
Feb 06 11:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	more like chomp chomp
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Feb 06 11:25:21 <DeadWeasel_>	with metal bones.
Feb 06 11:27:04 <jurov>	czech animation character - Maxidog Feek : http://www.pohadkar.cz/pohadka/maxipes-fik/obrazky/id/1166/
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Feb 06 11:28:16 <DeadWeasel_>	if all goes well today, I should have 1800 or so S.DICE shares. what the hell should I do with them?
Feb 06 11:28:17 <jurov>	tho it looks more like 50ton. not 500
Feb 06 11:28:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069975 = 3.0236 BTC [+]
Feb 06 11:28:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 530 @ 0.00069999 = 0.371 BTC [+]
Feb 06 11:28:28 <DeadWeasel_>	Clifford, the big red Dog
Feb 06 11:28:30 <jurov>	DeadWeasel_, retire
Feb 06 11:28:35 <DeadWeasel_>	ha
Feb 06 11:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	maybe s.dice starts accepting gambling in its own shares
Feb 06 11:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be infinite power.
Feb 06 11:29:26 <DeadWeasel_>	feedback loop of profit
Feb 06 11:30:27 <truffles>	tie bitcoin to poker insta boom
Feb 06 11:30:28 <jurov>	yea that can be done easily. erik buys 50 or so mpex addresses
Feb 06 11:30:40 <jurov>	and tell peeps to PUSH the shares
Feb 06 11:30:48 <jurov>	and paste the cert
Feb 06 11:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	and then hashes the cert as if it were a deposit
Feb 06 11:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	jesus fuck this can actually be done
Feb 06 11:31:26 <jurov>	he'll need to see source address somehow
Feb 06 11:31:41 <ThickAsThieves>	he could use that method for new tranches :)
Feb 06 11:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	jurov as long as he has a cert...
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Feb 06 11:32:07 <ThickAsThieves>	then shareholders get shares as winnings
Feb 06 11:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	this stuff is so crazy...
Feb 06 11:33:04 <DeaDTerra1>	Can someone tell MP to stop ignoring me for a couple of seconds?
Feb 06 11:33:15 <truffles>	sounds rly complicated, but make it happen
Feb 06 11:33:32 <jurov>	DeaDTerra1: we can translate
Feb 06 11:33:36 <DeaDTerra1>	oki ^^
Feb 06 11:33:44 <DeaDTerra1>	I want to open up a second MPEX account :)
Feb 06 11:34:02 <jurov>	you just send email, no?
Feb 06 11:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069271 = 2.9932 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:34:12 <truffles>	30 btc please
Feb 06 11:34:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16306 @ 0.00069247 = 11.2914 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:34:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 504 @ 0.00068939 = 0.3475 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:34:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7369 @ 0.00068874 = 5.0753 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 11:34:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 12000 @ 0.0062 = 74.4 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:34:46 <jurov>	he doesn't ignore your email I hope (unless yo fail the idiot proof he imposed today)
Feb 06 11:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069985 = 3.0241 BTC [+]
Feb 06 11:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5715 @ 0.00069999 = 4.0004 BTC [+]
Feb 06 11:35:16 <DeaDTerra1>	I don't mind paying 30 BTC
Feb 06 11:35:19 <DeaDTerra1>	haha okay :P
Feb 06 11:35:26 <DeaDTerra1>	I will send him a email then ^^
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Feb 06 11:36:01 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: that was DeaDTerra, he's going to open second mpex acct
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Feb 06 11:40:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00069693 = 2.4393 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50100 @ 0.0007 = 35.07 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 11:40:43 <topace_>	wow havelock is filling up with bids for tonight already
Feb 06 11:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	sweet
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Feb 06 11:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8976 @ 0.0007 = 6.2832 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 11:45:13 <jcpham>	oh something is happening tonight
Feb 06 11:45:16 <jcpham>	do tell
Feb 06 11:45:38 <ThickAsThieves>	why are their so many orders on Havelock at over .0062? it's cheaper on the other exchanges
Feb 06 11:45:45 <ThickAsThieves>	is it just lack of awareness?
Feb 06 11:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068902 = 2.9773 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:45:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9631 @ 0.00068874 = 6.6333 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:45:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1564 @ 0.00068714 = 1.0747 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 11:46:28 <mircea_popescu>	maybe just surplus of btc
Feb 06 11:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.havelock.com/
Feb 06 11:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	wtf
Feb 06 11:47:06 <ThickAsThieves>	?
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Feb 06 11:47:33 <Chilca>	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/
Feb 06 11:47:37 <ThickAsThieves>	there ya go
Feb 06 11:48:45 <jurov>	http://mineforeman.com/2013/02/06/can-electric-call-btcfpga-new-asics-fraud/
Feb 06 11:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	o o wrong one
Feb 06 11:48:48 <mircea_popescu>	ty.
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Feb 06 11:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	2013-02-06 08:02:01	5	฿0.70000000	฿3.5000
Feb 06 11:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	2013-02-06 08:02:01	10	฿0.70000000	฿7.0000
Feb 06 11:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	trading at 70 in between 55/62 tranches ?
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Feb 06 11:50:42 <topace_>	haha
Feb 06 11:50:52 <topace_>	yea stupid people :p
Feb 06 11:51:01 <evoorhees>	hey guys - I changed the URL for the figures on SD. New spreadsheet is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dHB2dVdiaEltUHAtTWlBcFhXQVBYeGc#gid=0
Feb 06 11:51:07 <evoorhees>	(mircea is updating link on mpex page also)
Feb 06 11:51:14 <maximian>	just people who don't know what's going on… very casual investors
Feb 06 11:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	pity glbse destroyed the notion of funds/managers
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Feb 06 11:51:42 <topace_>	evoorhees: is the old link removed completely?
Feb 06 11:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	this is exactly what a manager is supposed to do.
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Feb 06 11:51:59 <evoorhees>	the old link is now permission-based
Feb 06 11:52:06 <evoorhees>	and I'll probably delete it shortly
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Feb 06 11:52:48 <topace_>	evoorhees: thanks, updated on havelock sdice fund overview
Feb 06 11:52:57 <evoorhees>	thanks much
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Feb 06 11:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069683 = 3.011 BTC [+]
Feb 06 11:55:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00069678 = 8.2917 BTC [-]
Feb 06 11:55:24 <jcpham>	;;calc 1.25*ticker --last]
Feb 06 11:55:24 <gribble>	Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
Feb 06 11:55:31 <jcpham>	;;calc 1.25*[ticker --last]
Feb 06 11:55:31 <gribble>	26.5539
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Feb 06 11:56:29 <jcpham>	how can i find the exchange rate for a specific point in time in the past
Feb 06 11:56:37 <jcpham>	January 27th
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Feb 06 11:57:00 <jcpham>	why did i ask in this channel
Feb 06 11:57:31 <assbot>	 so many questions....
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Feb 06 11:58:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00620895 = 0.0124 BTC [+]
Feb 06 11:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00632911 = 0.3165 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 11:59:01 <jurov>	jcpham, maybe http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD and select the dates?
Feb 06 11:59:19 <jcpham>	i was really hoping for a gribble query but thanks
Feb 06 11:59:34 <jurov>	;;bc,help
Feb 06 11:59:34 <gribble>	Alias bc,24hprc, Alias bc,avgprc, Alias bc,bitpenny, Alias bc,blockdiff, Alias bc,blocks, Alias bc,bounty, Alias bc,btcguild, Alias bc,calc, Alias bc,calcd, Alias bc,convert, Alias bc,deepbit, Alias bc,diff, Alias bc,diffchange, Alias bc,eligius, Alias bc,estimate, Alias bc,fx, Alias bc,gen, Alias bc,gend, Alias bc,help, Alias bc,hextarget, Alias bc,intersango, Alias bc,interval, Alias (2 more messages)
Feb 06 11:59:52 <jurov>	;;more
Feb 06 11:59:53 <gribble>	bc,mktcap, Alias bc,nethash, Alias bc,nexttarget, Alias bc,ozcoin, Alias bc,p2pool, Alias bc,p2poolalt, Alias bc,p2pooldiff, Alias bc,prevdiff, Alias bc,prevdiffchange, Alias bc,price, Alias bc,prob, Alias bc,probd, Alias bc,silkroad, Alias bc,sincelastblock, Alias bc,slushpool, Alias bc,spotestimate, Alias bc,stats, Alias bc,tblb, Alias bc,timetonext, Alias bc,totalbc, Alias bc,tslb, Alias (1 more message)
Feb 06 11:59:59 <assbot>	 /me pulls out shampoo.
Feb 06 12:00:08 <jurov>	;;bc,price
Feb 06 12:00:09 <gribble>	Next Price Estimate: 23.396978 | Next Price In About 2 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes, and 54 seconds
Feb 06 12:00:15 <jurov>	O.o
Feb 06 12:00:17 *	jcpham sticks shampoo bottle in assbot
Feb 06 12:00:23 <jurov>	;;more
Feb 06 12:00:24 <gribble>	bc,wiki, Alias bc,xag, Alias bc,xau, BitcoinData bcstats, BitcoinData totalbc, GPG bcauth, GPG bcregister, and GPG bcverify
Feb 06 12:00:51 <maximian>	Better watch out mircea_popescu, they're coming for the mpex "hot wallet": http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17zyrc/what_do_you_see_here_oh_just_a_400000_in_a_hot/
Feb 06 12:00:56 <jcpham>	thankfully there's always bc,price to rely on
Feb 06 12:01:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12913 @ 0.00069306 = 8.9495 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:01:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4411 @ 0.00068714 = 3.031 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:01:17 <jurov>	seems it works only for future dates
Feb 06 12:01:17 <mircea_popescu>	how is that a hot wallet ?!
Feb 06 12:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18164 @ 0.00068712 = 12.4808 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:01:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112 @ 0.0006853 = 0.0768 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:01:24 <maximian>	lol, dunno
Feb 06 12:01:31 <maximian>	geniuses they are
Feb 06 12:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	I'd need to test the response time on the system to be sure (not going to because I don't want to fork over $600 for registration), but I have a feeling it might be hot, or at least the only wallet they use.
Feb 06 12:01:53 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I see where you a coming from with the article on "niggas"
Feb 06 12:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 06 12:01:59 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Feb 06 12:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	dude...
Feb 06 12:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	what can i say anymore.
Feb 06 12:02:10 <thestringpuller>	even a nigga don't wanna be a nigga
Feb 06 12:02:26 <jurov>	reddit discovers mpex wallet. shit happens
Feb 06 12:02:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: that's what jay-z would say
Feb 06 12:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	jurov no, actually, they were all herpderp nobody shouyld trust mpex. then someone pointed out mpex is well trusted
Feb 06 12:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	spazz ensued.
Feb 06 12:03:07 <thestringpuller>	it's only because you haven't been hacked yet
Feb 06 12:03:14 <thestringpuller>	or ran off with the money
Feb 06 12:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	or that.
Feb 06 12:03:32 <thestringpuller>	i wouldn't blame you if you did one day
Feb 06 12:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	eh, and do what with it.
Feb 06 12:03:52 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu stop being such an elitist and give plebes free accounts already
Feb 06 12:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i offered theymos one. curious if he takes it.
Feb 06 12:04:15 <jcpham>	awesome
Feb 06 12:04:18 <thestringpuller>	theymos doesn't listen though...
Feb 06 12:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	on his "need ppl to hold forum coins" thread
Feb 06 12:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5588 @ 0.0006853 = 3.8295 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9112 @ 0.00068408 = 6.2333 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	but i am really mindboggled... i mean... mpex features are documented ad nauseam i thought
Feb 06 12:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	seems not ?
Feb 06 12:05:47 <jurov>	i think truffles can explain the problem best
Feb 06 12:05:49 <jcpham>	i find it hard they would traverse your gpg instructions and not read the part about the fee
Feb 06 12:06:02 <jurov>	"ima not read 1000 words"
Feb 06 12:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	i think as time goes by the section in hell for "went through life reading < 1000 words total" is getting crowded
Feb 06 12:06:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00069607 = 2.3666 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 12:06:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0062 = 6.2 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:08:00 <jurov>	lol i just sent some basic information about what i'm doing now to my ex-boss
Feb 06 12:08:11 <jurov>	i suspect something similar ensues: http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2012-11-08/
Feb 06 12:08:45 <mircea_popescu>	you know, i think you're the only dilbert fan i know
Feb 06 12:08:48 <mircea_popescu>	i find this fascinanting
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Feb 06 12:09:04 <truffles>	if i could figure out what thehell bitcoin was id have time to read 10k words
Feb 06 12:09:28 <truffles>	but no its some complicated niche nerdfest that us not so stupid ppl haveto wade through
Feb 06 12:10:03 <mircea_popescu>	it's the wading not the destination.
Feb 06 12:10:41 <jurov>	truffles, it's not that. it's that nobody accepted the challenge to explain it properly to non-nerds
Feb 06 12:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	it can't be don.
Feb 06 12:10:54 <jurov>	despite obvious profit
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Feb 06 12:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	+e
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Feb 06 12:11:06 <truffles>	makes me think of those complicated mortgage backed securites this system
Feb 06 12:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17zq8j/because_most_people_are_idiots_in_spite_of_never/
Feb 06 12:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	i love how this article is like 1-2 over/under all the tiem
Feb 06 12:11:47 <jurov>	truffles, why would you want to invest into complicated mortgage backed securites???
Feb 06 12:12:00 <truffles>	im saying bitcoins feels like that
Feb 06 12:12:22 <thestringpuller>	they are a pyramid scheme dontcha kno
Feb 06 12:12:51 <truffles>	maybe
Feb 06 12:12:56 <jurov>	really, i'm fighting with myself over every explanation/help i have to add to coinbr
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Feb 06 12:12:59 <jcpham>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.0;topicseen
Feb 06 12:13:09 <jurov>	whenever things aren't obvious
Feb 06 12:13:11 <jcpham>	^ is that what you were talking about
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Feb 06 12:13:19 <jurov>	and it does pay off
Feb 06 12:13:41 <jurov>	sadly not so many ppl want to do it
Feb 06 12:14:16 <truffles>	"I think it says a lot about this douche bag that he wants people to pay to read his absolutely horrendous writing. " oh look some ppl think u suck at writing so we shouldnt read it
Feb 06 12:14:29 <truffles>	excellent point i must say
Feb 06 12:14:59 <jurov>	yea, bitching is easier
Feb 06 12:15:15 <jurov>	but you won't feed yourself with it
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Feb 06 12:15:52 <truffles>	cant say i dont complain about things on the way..
Feb 06 12:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	why is my writing horrendous ?!
Feb 06 12:17:59 <truffles>	some1 thinks so
Feb 06 12:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1248 @ 0.00635835 = 7.9352 BTC [+]
Feb 06 12:18:25 <truffles>	i didnt read your blog? but seems something to be desired there
Feb 06 12:18:31 <truffles>	from what ive seen
Feb 06 12:18:36 <pigeons>	;)
Feb 06 12:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	im like fucking latter days henry miller over here and these bitchez be bitchin'.
Feb 06 12:19:46 <pigeons>	but in mircea_popescu's version willie lomax shoots himself sooner
Feb 06 12:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	sooner, slower and wetter.
Feb 06 12:20:39 <mircea_popescu>	(also arthur != henry)
Feb 06 12:21:17 <pigeons>	oh oops
Feb 06 12:21:22 <pigeons>	:)
Feb 06 12:21:40 <pigeons>	which one was with Marilyn Monroe?
Feb 06 12:21:47 <mircea_popescu>	i think both.
Feb 06 12:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	also the whole 3rd scottish grenadiers.
Feb 06 12:22:00 <pigeons>	yeah
Feb 06 12:22:13 <truffles>	not a henry miller reader..
Feb 06 12:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	(a horse regiment)
Feb 06 12:22:58 <truffles>	wow racey covers
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Feb 06 12:23:24 <truffles>	i see butts on tropic of cancer
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Feb 06 12:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	this is genuinely news to you ?
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Feb 06 12:25:33 <truffles>	yea i have my niche interests too not just nerds
Feb 06 12:31:05 <truffles>	" His first published book, Tropic of Cancer (1934), was banned in the United States on the grounds of obscenity."
Feb 06 12:31:14 <truffles>	is there freedom of speech anywhere?
Feb 06 12:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	yes. on trilema.
Feb 06 12:32:13 <truffles>	really
Feb 06 12:32:31 <truffles>	if i go to the archives and start commenting u wont rage delete
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Feb 06 12:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	i never deleted anyone's comments
Feb 06 12:33:05 <mircea_popescu>	in however many years, 4, 5.
Feb 06 12:33:24 <mircea_popescu>	first romanian blog to have an actual open comment policy, and one of the few online
Feb 06 12:33:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.0062 = 1.86 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:34:18 <truffles>	at least these channels arent too restrictive
Feb 06 12:39:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00068818 = 7.0883 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 12:41:53 <thestringpuller>	curl -hP
Feb 06 12:41:56 <thestringpuller>	ls
Feb 06 12:42:01 <thestringpuller>	cd ../../..
Feb 06 12:42:03 <thestringpuller>	>:(
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Feb 06 12:46:35 <truffles>	what do you have on the server thestringpuller
Feb 06 12:47:16 <topace_>	mircea_popescu: its no problem having more than one pending deposit, right?
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Feb 06 12:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	topace_ no problem at all.
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Feb 06 12:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
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Feb 06 12:50:21 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 5 seconds
Feb 06 12:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00069155 = 3.2157 BTC [+]
Feb 06 12:53:23 <topace_>	excellent
Feb 06 12:53:36 <topace_>	2 on the way :)
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Feb 06 12:55:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2274388/MI5-install-black-box-spy-devices-monitor-UK-internet-traffic.html#axzz2K7bdP0GW
Feb 06 12:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	teh lolz.
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Feb 06 12:56:37 <Schadenfreude>	The UK used 1984 as a manual, go figure
Feb 06 12:56:41 <truffles>	uk has ctv sky drones now that
Feb 06 12:57:22 <Schadenfreude>	Kitchen knives aren't that far from being banned there and the olympic shooters may not train on british soil due to their ridiculous gun ban
Feb 06 12:57:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00068818 = 1.3075 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:57:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12470 @ 0.00069155 = 8.6236 BTC [+]
Feb 06 12:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068409 = 3.4205 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:57:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3288 @ 0.00068408 = 2.2493 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067943 = 3.3972 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7419 @ 0.00067941 = 5.0405 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067939 = 6.7939 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5473 @ 0.00067938 = 3.7182 BTC [-]
Feb 06 12:58:33 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like a sad little island by now
Feb 06 12:58:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Feb 06 12:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00645 = 64.5 BTC [+]
Feb 06 12:58:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3596 @ 0.00677999 = 24.3808 BTC [+]
Feb 06 13:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	somebody made a deposit ends in 666
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Feb 06 13:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	i should have made this the norm!
Feb 06 13:01:14 <topace_>	mircea_popescu:  yea i saw that, that was me :)
Feb 06 13:01:29 <topace_>	i chuckled
Feb 06 13:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	also i regret to inform everyone that reddit goons have managed to hack mpex's hotwallet
Feb 06 13:02:13 <mircea_popescu>	making away with the total balance of 0.00 btc
Feb 06 13:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	reddit wins!!1eleven
Feb 06 13:02:55 <Schadenfreude>	Reddit? Isn't that this marxist circlejerk?
Feb 06 13:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 06 13:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe was trolling them earlier.
Feb 06 13:03:27 <mircea_popescu>	and they got reallyreallyangry!!11
Feb 06 13:03:39 <Schadenfreude>	how did you troll them? curious
Feb 06 13:03:43 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile in egypt,
Feb 06 13:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	"The inability of women in rural Egypt to clean their breasts is causing a diarrhoea epidemic, according to the country's Prime Minister Hisham Qandil."
Feb 06 13:03:54 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17zq8j/because_most_people_are_idiots_in_spite_of_never/
Feb 06 13:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00069437 = 0.0042 BTC [+]
Feb 06 13:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7990 @ 0.00069437 = 5.548 BTC [+]
Feb 06 13:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 921 @ 0.00069607 = 0.6411 BTC [+]
Feb 06 13:09:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00069258 = 2.7703 BTC [-]
Feb 06 13:09:50 <Schadenfreude>	"Nobody counts what niggers think, and nobody counts what idiots think." HAHAHA
Feb 06 13:10:29 <truffles>	a regular henry miller right there
Feb 06 13:13:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136012108784.jpg with extra miller on top.
Feb 06 13:14:40 <Schadenfreude>	Now a pornsite accepting BTC instead of the usual CC... That might be an idea
Feb 06 13:14:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2000 @ 0.0062 = 12.4 BTC
Feb 06 13:15:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.338 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 13:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude paid porn is a dead concept.
Feb 06 13:17:43 <Schadenfreude>	I know, but it might make some publicity for BTC
Feb 06 13:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	girls gone bitcoin went nowjhere
Feb 06 13:18:34 <pigeons>	piad blogs are the new thing
Feb 06 13:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine top level escorts will be moving to btc only soonish
Feb 06 13:18:55 <mircea_popescu>	seeing how they mostly fuck geeks anyway
Feb 06 13:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	and the money trail is strictly the only way rthey can get picked up
Feb 06 13:20:06 <truffles>	not politicans?
Feb 06 13:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	politicians always follow whores
Feb 06 13:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	whores lead.
Feb 06 13:23:13 <topace_>	dammit did bitcointalk remove the 'watchlist' and 'new replies to your posts' feature?! what a stupid upgrade
Feb 06 13:23:21 <topace_>	thats the only way i knew which threads to actually look at
Feb 06 13:24:15 <truffles>	maybe theyve been talking with utube on how to make things worse
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Feb 06 13:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	it's part of their 3500 btc expenditure on software upgrading
Feb 06 13:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00068425 = 12.5902 BTC [-]
Feb 06 13:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12401 @ 0.00069639 = 8.6359 BTC [+]
Feb 06 13:29:10 <DeadWeasel_>	i still see those links
Feb 06 13:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49 @ 0.00069925 = 0.0343 BTC [+]
Feb 06 13:29:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2216 @ 0.0062 = 13.7392 BTC [-]
Feb 06 13:29:47 <ThickAsThieves>	me too
Feb 06 13:30:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0062 = 12.4 BTC [-]
Feb 06 13:31:15 <jurov>	maybe you got logged off?
Feb 06 13:32:41 <dub>	is whoring illegal in romania?
Feb 06 13:33:24 <mircea_popescu>	bout the same as everywhere else.
Feb 06 13:33:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.3408 = 1.704 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 13:37:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 270 @ 0.0062 = 1.674 BTC
Feb 06 13:38:05 <Anduck>	dub ues
Feb 06 13:38:06 <Anduck>	yes it is
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Feb 06 13:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck how would you know ?
Feb 06 13:39:18 <Anduck>	i live in europe
Feb 06 13:39:18 <truffles>	amsterdam..
Feb 06 13:39:20 <Anduck>	i think alike
Feb 06 13:39:33 <dub>	its legal in netherlands, germany, uk..
Feb 06 13:39:39 <dub>	most of asia
Feb 06 13:39:41 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu u know much about finland?
Feb 06 13:39:46 <mircea_popescu>	not very much.
Feb 06 13:39:50 <Anduck>	ok
Feb 06 13:40:02 <Anduck>	most u need to know: cold. polar bears. sami people.
Feb 06 13:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	i was there a coupla times
Feb 06 13:40:13 <mircea_popescu>	nice skin.
Feb 06 13:40:13 <Anduck>	lol wuut
Feb 06 13:40:29 <Anduck>	where were u?
Feb 06 13:40:34 <Anduck>	northern finland or southern?
Feb 06 13:40:34 <dub>	legal in nevada
Feb 06 13:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	helsinki
Feb 06 13:41:05 <dub>	legal in new zealand, parts of australia
Feb 06 13:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	turku
Feb 06 13:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	a few places
Feb 06 13:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	dub there was some debate about legalizing it a year or two ago
Feb 06 13:42:04 <dub>	in sweden its legal to sell ass but not buy it
Feb 06 13:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile girls still work, whether it's legal or not.
Feb 06 13:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	everywhere in europe it's ok to be a john.
Feb 06 13:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	afaik at least.
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Feb 06 13:49:36 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: aight
Feb 06 13:49:46 <Anduck>	turku is bad
Feb 06 13:49:49 <Anduck>	but helsinki is ok
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Feb 06 13:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067953 = 3.3977 BTC [-]
Feb 06 13:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067952 = 2.9362 BTC [-]
Feb 06 13:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5579 @ 0.00067938 = 3.7903 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 13:55:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068862 = 2.9755 BTC [+]
Feb 06 13:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1429 @ 0.00068882 = 0.9843 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 13:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00068882 = 11.2622 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2121 @ 0.00068882 = 1.461 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 14:09:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069916 = 3.0211 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2489 @ 0.00069917 = 1.7402 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 14:12:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 700 @ 0.0062 = 4.34 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:15:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006968 = 3.0109 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2217 @ 0.00069667 = 1.5445 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:15:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 28 @ 0.0062 = 0.1736 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:15:41 <Schadenfreude>	mircea, I believe in sweden it's a-ok to be a prostitute, but their clients do get busted
Feb 06 14:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	"Die Schweden, die haben verflucht schlechtes Geld; Wer weiß, ob der Österreicher besseres hält."
Feb 06 14:18:16 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: can i have a handout? i am entitled to your success.
Feb 06 14:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	sure. tell vragnaroda to disburse largesse upon you
Feb 06 14:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	he handles all my handouts for me
Feb 06 14:20:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00069667 = 14.1076 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:21:11 <jcpham>	i miss vrag
Feb 06 14:21:25 <jcpham>	correcting my misplaced apostrophes
Feb 06 14:21:42 <mircea_popescu>	and buttsexing rg
Feb 06 14:21:58 <jcpham>	wasn't privy to the anal
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Feb 06 14:22:51 <jcpham>	so mr voorhees was wanting a "howto" video for satoshidice
Feb 06 14:22:51 <DeaDTerra1>	I heard Sweden :D
Feb 06 14:22:54 <DeaDTerra1>	So I will jump in
Feb 06 14:23:03 <jcpham>	and i had a conceptual vision i'd like share
Feb 06 14:23:04 <DeaDTerra1>	It's indeed legal to be a prostitute in Sweden
Feb 06 14:23:10 <DeaDTerra1>	but it's illegal to buy such services
Feb 06 14:23:19 <DeaDTerra1>	so the purchaser breaks the law not the provider
Feb 06 14:23:22 <truffles>	slow pony
Feb 06 14:23:32 <truffles>	jcpham ive been waiting for this video
Feb 06 14:23:35 <jcpham>	so a howto video for satoshidice needs firstly a dude at his computer
Feb 06 14:23:45 <jcpham>	but his voice is altered maybe he's wearing askimask
Feb 06 14:23:54 <jcpham>	and he shows how to use it real slow like
Feb 06 14:24:02 <jcpham>	maybe like the guy from delocated, kinda funny
Feb 06 14:24:19 <jcpham>	then he sends the coins and wham!
Feb 06 14:24:19 <truffles>	annoymous huh
Feb 06 14:24:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2146 @ 0.0065 = 13.949 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:24:26 <jcpham>	cut to hot chicks in bikins
Feb 06 14:24:31 <jcpham>	mansion sex
Feb 06 14:24:44 <truffles>	gotta be informative!
Feb 06 14:24:50 <jcpham>	the winning transaction money shoit, so to speak
Feb 06 14:24:58 <truffles>	make a video and ill tell u what to improve?
Feb 06 14:24:59 <jcpham>	maybe a little hip hop music
Feb 06 14:25:03 <jurov>	that first scene should be a policeman, typing address with one finger
Feb 06 14:25:05 <jcpham>	big satashidice logo
Feb 06 14:25:08 <jcpham>	end commercial
Feb 06 14:25:15 <truffles>	i will ask u questions to include or answer
Feb 06 14:25:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.64 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:25:54 <jcpham>	the howto part is boring
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Feb 06 14:26:04 <jcpham>	the whyto is much more interesting
Feb 06 14:26:46 <truffles>	not that im with stupid but i think im ur target audience heh
Feb 06 14:26:50 <jcpham>	i can see it my head, just no time to plan and execute. film it.
Feb 06 14:26:54 <jcpham>	too much work
Feb 06 14:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	<jcpham> so a howto video for satoshidice needs firstly a dude << it is illegal to show dudes.
Feb 06 14:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4011 @ 0.00069917 = 2.8044 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069924 = 3.0214 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	must have tits if on cam
Feb 06 14:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12868 @ 0.00069925 = 8.9979 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:27:31 <jcpham>	no that's what i'm saying it starts boring
Feb 06 14:27:36 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Feb 06 14:27:40 <jcpham>	with some voice altered skimask neckbeard
Feb 06 14:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	then she could be wearing something
Feb 06 14:27:46 <jcpham>	then cut to the txn
Feb 06 14:27:52 <jcpham>	naked hot chicks
Feb 06 14:27:57 <jcpham>	screaming satoshidice
Feb 06 14:28:04 <mircea_popescu>	should run this on fox
Feb 06 14:28:14 <jcpham>	run it anywhere = winning
Feb 06 14:28:34 <jcpham>	i mean. a howto is going to show maybe 3 technical events
Feb 06 14:28:38 <jurov>	he should play in on phone... on, like commuter train
Feb 06 14:28:41 <truffles>	we dont need a movie geez
Feb 06 14:28:44 <jcpham>	sending the coins, receiving coins
Feb 06 14:28:50 <jcpham>	sad or happy
Feb 06 14:28:57 <jcpham>	might as well go over the top happy
Feb 06 14:29:23 <jcpham>	does satoshidice need to provide a bitcoin tutorial..... no
Feb 06 14:29:27 <jcpham>	that's a ridiculous idea
Feb 06 14:29:39 <truffles>	is it
Feb 06 14:29:45 <jcpham>	i think it
Feb 06 14:29:52 <ThickAsThieves>	you do need to include how make a wallet
Feb 06 14:29:55 <ThickAsThieves>	and get coins
Feb 06 14:30:07 <jcpham>	here let me hold your hand
Feb 06 14:30:10 <ThickAsThieves>	also i think you don't need people at all in the vid
Feb 06 14:30:17 <ThickAsThieves>	just gfx
Feb 06 14:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4990 @ 0.00069925 = 3.4893 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5975 @ 0.00069999 = 4.1824 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1335 @ 0.00069999 = 0.9345 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:30:42 <jcpham>	thankfully i have nothing to do with this
Feb 06 14:30:49 <truffles>	if u can edit video all u need are some talking points
Feb 06 14:30:53 <jcpham>	i'm just helping you visualize a concept
Feb 06 14:31:04 <jcpham>	and the concepts is getting bitches
Feb 06 14:31:05 <ThickAsThieves>	people want that friendly borderline cartoony childlike treatment for software help
Feb 06 14:31:07 <jcpham>	so to speak
Feb 06 14:31:15 <ThickAsThieves>	like how google does
Feb 06 14:31:23 <jcpham>	funniest thing i ever said
Feb 06 14:31:25 <ThickAsThieves>	and somewhat Apple (the music)
Feb 06 14:31:44 <truffles>	jcpham are you saying ure in over your head
Feb 06 14:32:23 <jcpham>	i think governments would have to be involved before i'm in over my head
Feb 06 14:33:28 <ThickAsThieves>	unless someone puts up a huge wall again, I think BTC will touch $23 tomorrow
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Feb 06 14:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> he should play in on phone... on, like commuter train << related, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135336413681.jpg
Feb 06 14:34:21 <truffles>	im wagering thats a nsfw
Feb 06 14:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	you win.
Feb 06 14:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	what gave it away ?
Feb 06 14:34:54 <truffles>	its your link
Feb 06 14:35:19 <jurov>	i dunno if nsfw... it looks like it's just anal and twat isn't visible
Feb 06 14:35:33 <jurov>	nor boobs
Feb 06 14:36:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18665 @ 0.00069999 = 13.0653 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:36:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25085 @ 0.0007 = 17.5595 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:36:52 <truffles>	jcpham do u have camtasia or related stuff?
Feb 06 14:37:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.0007 = 12.74 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	where do you work jurov ?
Feb 06 14:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	the buttspital ?
Feb 06 14:37:38 <jurov>	lol
Feb 06 14:38:07 <jurov>	why?
Feb 06 14:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard of a place of work where anal was ok.
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Feb 06 14:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069671 = 3.0105 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8262 @ 0.00069667 = 5.7559 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 317 @ 0.00068841 = 0.2182 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:40:04 *	jurov can't stop giggling
Feb 06 14:41:11 <truffles>	oh oh uve caught the ghey?
Feb 06 14:41:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069972 = 3.0235 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1339 @ 0.0007 = 0.9373 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:44:40 <jurov>	http://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/34126/how-can-users-be-prevented-from-pouring-water-into-coffee-machine-beans-compartm
Feb 06 14:44:53 <jurov>	^ some ppl like to exterminate idiocy
Feb 06 14:45:06 <jurov>	others try to take it into account
Feb 06 14:45:41 <topace_>	oh lol i found the links
Feb 06 14:45:53 <topace_>	aparently i clicked the [-] beside the time at the top-left
Feb 06 14:45:56 <topace_>	which hides that window
Feb 06 14:45:57 <dub>	I asked a facilities dude why there are locks on teh hot chotoloate feed on our machines, its to stop people putting coffee in them
Feb 06 14:46:03 <topace_>	err top-right
Feb 06 14:46:12 <dub>	I had assumed poor people stealing chocolate
Feb 06 14:46:20 <truffles>	good thing i dont drink coffee
Feb 06 14:46:29 <truffles>	thats a major flaw
Feb 06 14:46:31 <dub>	yes, more for us
Feb 06 14:46:33 <truffles>	way to go innovation
Feb 06 14:46:34 <jurov>	The solution: mains piped coffee beans.
Feb 06 14:46:45 <jurov>	:D
Feb 06 14:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	hahahahaa
Feb 06 14:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	this is hysterical.
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Feb 06 14:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe-pr sez : "ahahahaha what the fuck! cuckoo coffeemaker. you put water in the beans compartment, this wooden bird flies out, pecks you in the forehead"
Feb 06 14:52:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068858 = 2.9754 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00068841 = 3.1522 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 14:54:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069021 = 2.9824 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:54:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00069033 = 3.161 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:55:58 <jurov>	lol theymos has no clue: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.msg1508212#msg1508212
Feb 06 14:56:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1971 @ 0.00069033 = 1.3606 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3379 @ 0.00069061 = 2.3336 BTC [+]
Feb 06 14:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	"Also, the current server seems fairly powerful. It don't know why it's so slow. I feel like it's a configuration problem somewhere."
Feb 06 14:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	win.
Feb 06 14:59:19 <jurov>	just adding a bet "Bitcointalk will experience major outage"... what timeframe do you suggest?
Feb 06 14:59:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4600 @ 0.0065 = 29.9 BTC [-]
Feb 06 14:59:44 <jurov>	it will take more than 24 hours ... and the bet will expire in june?
Feb 06 14:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	kinda iffy cause it can be ddosd'
Feb 06 15:00:07 <jurov>	hm
Feb 06 15:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	"Thanks, but I'm not confident in the security/stability of MPEx. "
Feb 06 15:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	lmao that's sweet.
Feb 06 15:00:57 <jurov>	or that "bitcointalk will be hacked".. hmm?
Feb 06 15:01:58 <mircea_popescu>	somethinfg awful says this is all a ploy on his part to steal the monyz
Feb 06 15:02:10 <jurov>	ohhh that's idea
Feb 06 15:02:18 <jurov>	bet on how much money willbe returned
Feb 06 15:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it'd prolly getting desperate from them.
Feb 06 15:02:29 <jurov>	if ti will be 50% or not
Feb 06 15:02:55 <jurov>	can be?
Feb 06 15:04:51 <jurov>	Sure, I will sit on it for you theymos.
Feb 06 15:04:52 <jurov>	Just let me know.
Feb 06 15:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4121 @ 0.00069061 = 2.846 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 15:08:19 <jborkl>	maybe a bitbet "will Theymos hijcack the funds by April 1"
Feb 06 15:08:45 <jborkl>	hijack
Feb 06 15:08:55 <jcpham>	that dude sublime5447 is an -otc scammer
Feb 06 15:09:02 <kakobrekla>	hijack as in blow on sdice?
Feb 06 15:09:03 <jcpham>	actually let me retract that
Feb 06 15:09:26 <jcpham>	it isn't proven he is a scammer he just scts scammy and he's overtly annoying
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Feb 06 15:10:11 <jborkl>	"all the funds will be gone or unavailable, no longer in control of the forum to where they were donated"
Feb 06 15:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	impossible to verify
Feb 06 15:10:30 <thestringpuller>	DeepBit is failing?
Feb 06 15:10:44 <jborkl>	true, impossible statement
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Feb 06 15:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 43074 @ 0.0065 = 279.981 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:15:47 <mircea_popescu>	ahhh that reddit...
Feb 06 15:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	"a hot wallet is a wallet with a lot of btc in it"
Feb 06 15:17:07 <dub>	here 'hot' is synonymous with 'stolen'
Feb 06 15:17:36 <thestringpuller>	so mircea_popescu did you steal those btc?
Feb 06 15:17:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7941 @ 0.0007 = 5.5587 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:19:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0007 = 1.89 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:19:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.67 = 2.01 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3790 @ 0.00069095 = 2.6187 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5254 @ 0.00068841 = 3.6169 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068489 = 2.9594 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:22:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3114 @ 0.00068488 = 2.1327 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:23:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000685 = 2.9599 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7822 @ 0.00068488 = 5.3571 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:23:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1514 @ 0.00067938 = 1.0286 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 884 @ 0.00067938 = 0.6006 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:25:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067934 = 2.9354 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1395 @ 0.00067933 = 0.9477 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1826 @ 0.00677999 = 12.3803 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:28:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.68 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't steal them
Feb 06 15:30:51 <mircea_popescu>	i picked them up with my sonic the hedgehog figurine
Feb 06 15:30:58 <dub>	http://bossip.com/720211/jesus-take-the-wheel-brazilian-evangelical-pastor-convinced-congregation-the-holy-spirit-was-released-through-his-sacred-milk/
Feb 06 15:31:45 <truffles>	so easy to get lost in that site
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Feb 06 15:34:21 <DeadWeasel_>	any use weexchange?
Feb 06 15:35:39 <jurov>	i do
Feb 06 15:36:06 <jurov>	but i don't trade there, just move btc from/to bitfunder
Feb 06 15:36:34 <swhitt>	the market depth at bitfunder is weird
Feb 06 15:37:55 <DeadWeasel_>	my god, the direct merchant auth token input doesn't even strip leading or following spaces.
Feb 06 15:38:04 <DeadWeasel_>	no wonder it didn't work first time.  lame
Feb 06 15:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00069178 = 2.4904 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067934 = 0.6793 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00067933 = 3.6684 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 15:42:23 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1zGqRXZlnY bitcoin related
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Feb 06 15:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00650001 = 6.825 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:47:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00646746 = 3.2337 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:48:02 <maximian>	so how did evoorhees get s.dice integrated into Blockchain.info's wallet? Is he associated with Blockchain? It's quite the competitive advantage
Feb 06 15:48:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069987 = 3.0241 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7779 @ 0.00069999 = 5.4452 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:50:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069989 = 3.0242 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:50:30 <jurov>	maximian, you mean the blockchain address identification?
Feb 06 15:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069967 = 3.0233 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5229 @ 0.00069999 = 3.6602 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:50:51 <maximian>	not just that, but the ability to play satoshi dice from within the block chain wallet
Feb 06 15:50:57 <jurov>	ah so
Feb 06 15:50:58 <maximian>	under the "Games" sidebar
Feb 06 15:51:10 <maximian>	There's only one game available :)
Feb 06 15:52:30 <maximian>	This why I don't think the imitators will ever catch up - evoorhees is good with partnerships and marketing, and is generally pretty ambitious
Feb 06 15:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 949 @ 0.00068631 = 0.6513 BTC [-]
Feb 06 15:53:32 <DeadWeasel_>	It's under SEND.  it's always there, looking at me.
Feb 06 15:53:46 <maximian>	yep
Feb 06 15:54:26 <maximian>	I'll take a wild guess that he gave a piece of s.dice to the blockchain.info guy in exchange for this
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Feb 06 15:54:55 <DeadWeasel_>	who is blockchain guy?
Feb 06 15:54:59 <maximian>	dunno
Feb 06 15:55:08 <mjr_>	hello
Feb 06 15:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00069999 = 14.8398 BTC [+]
Feb 06 15:55:43 <mjr_>	jurov: you around?
Feb 06 15:55:51 <jurov>	yes
Feb 06 15:56:46 <mjr_>	i was wondering, do you think you may ever put a last field into the dashboard so you can have dynamically adjusting P&L, or is their an API type thing where we could link our positions to a google doc?
Feb 06 15:57:45 <DeadWeasel_>	l
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Feb 06 15:57:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00069999 = 14.2098 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:00:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0061 = 6.1 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:01:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 324 @ 0.006 = 1.944 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 16:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069089 = 3.4545 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069088 = 2.9853 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9127 @ 0.00069056 = 6.3027 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:05:29 <mjr_>	any word on next block for S.DICE?
Feb 06 16:05:59 <Namworld>	0.0062 at 10 PM EST again
Feb 06 16:06:17 <ThickAsThieves>	I kinda feel like holding out for the 5th block
Feb 06 16:06:27 <Namworld>	why?
Feb 06 16:06:39 <ThickAsThieves>	to see what price he really puts it at
Feb 06 16:06:39 <mjr_>	last night was just fun
Feb 06 16:06:49 <mjr_>	i overpayed
Feb 06 16:06:52 <Namworld>	each get a higher price according to what evoorhees said =/
Feb 06 16:06:54 <mjr_>	but still had a blast
Feb 06 16:07:02 <mjr_>	still worth it though
Feb 06 16:07:13 <ThickAsThieves>	many people might be tapped out by the 5th block, and if erik still needs to sell the shares quickly, he might need to go lower again
Feb 06 16:07:23 <ThickAsThieves>	the market is already stabilizing close to his offer price
Feb 06 16:07:53 <ThickAsThieves>	but that could just be because most people know to wait
Feb 06 16:08:01 <ThickAsThieves>	for the blocks, rather than day trade
Feb 06 16:08:05 <Namworld>	I think people are just waiting
Feb 06 16:08:05 <Ukto>	Namworld: making another large buy tonight? hehe
Feb 06 16:08:20 <Namworld>	Ukto: no, haven't sold those I got at 0.0044
Feb 06 16:08:25 <Ukto>	oh really?
Feb 06 16:08:26 <ThickAsThieves>	thats what i mean
Feb 06 16:08:31 <Ukto>	i thought you got some from last night too
Feb 06 16:08:31 <Ukto>	wow
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Feb 06 16:08:40 <Namworld>	nope
Feb 06 16:08:46 <evoorhees>	thickasthieves - no tranche will be listed for less than a prior tranche, fyi
Feb 06 16:08:46 <ThickAsThieves>	there are still shares out there to buy
Feb 06 16:08:52 <Ukto>	we have been buying abotu 25% every night
Feb 06 16:08:53 <Namworld>	Selling them at 0.0062 on BTCT.co
Feb 06 16:08:57 <Ukto>	gonna do 50% tonight
Feb 06 16:08:59 <ThickAsThieves>	good to know
Feb 06 16:09:03 <Namworld>	If I sell them, will buy more tonight
Feb 06 16:09:12 <Ukto>	hehe
Feb 06 16:09:15 <Ukto>	terra already went to bed
Feb 06 16:09:29 <mjr_>	really looking forward to end of the month
Feb 06 16:09:32 <mjr_>	see how it all goes
Feb 06 16:09:33 <ThickAsThieves>	erik, does that apply in general (as in, next month or after)?
Feb 06 16:09:48 <Ukto>	evoorhees: oh hai :P
Feb 06 16:09:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess that's impossible to commit to
Feb 06 16:09:59 <jurov>	mjr_ you mean last mpex price?
Feb 06 16:10:02 <mjr_>	originally he said that referring to the 5 levels
Feb 06 16:10:16 <mjr_>	jurov: yes, last mpex price of sdice and mpoe
Feb 06 16:11:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1718 @ 0.0064999 = 11.1668 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:11:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 48950 @ 0.0065 = 318.175 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:11:30 <ThickAsThieves>	what happens if people don't buy up the 5th tranche in a few days, does it just sit as a wall til it's bought up?
Feb 06 16:11:51 <mjr_>	so far things are working really well though, the nice spike in usd to btc along with the slight gain on sdice are putting together a very convincing image
Feb 06 16:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 5 @ 0.17497448 = 0.8749 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:12:23 <mjr_>	great way to double down on BTC :)
Feb 06 16:12:29 <Namworld>	Thick, I'd think so
Feb 06 16:12:30 <mircea_popescu>	<maximian> There's only one game available :) << there's going to be more.
Feb 06 16:13:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069072 = 2.9846 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:13:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 873 @ 0.00069056 = 0.6029 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:13:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1338 @ 0.00069056 = 0.924 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4226 @ 0.00069055 = 2.9183 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:14:26 <jurov>	mjr_ yes i've got some ideas for dashboard.. only that right now i'm working on email notifications ;)
Feb 06 16:14:34 <mjr_>	oh wow nice
Feb 06 16:14:37 <mjr_>	very cool
Feb 06 16:14:37 <evoorhees>	yeah if 5th tranche doesn't sell out then it'll sit a while I guess
Feb 06 16:14:58 <mjr_>	i was thinking about what we were talking about
Feb 06 16:15:02 <mjr_>	a real trading platform
Feb 06 16:15:19 <mjr_>	with charts, live data, orders and positions in one
Feb 06 16:15:26 <mjr_>	and i think we could build something really cool
Feb 06 16:15:50 <mjr_>	if we make the backend abstract enough, everyone could use it
Feb 06 16:15:57 <Namworld>	Well there you have it
Feb 06 16:18:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 4 @ 0.17497448 = 0.6999 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:19:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.0065 = 325 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:19:46 <mjr_>	mostly i think it would be a fun project to use angular.js in
Feb 06 16:20:03 <mjr_>	and that was one of the next ones i wanted to use...i really like its philosophy
Feb 06 16:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C210T] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P210T] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:21:09 <mjr_>	hmm a straddle :)
Feb 06 16:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol equipriced.
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Feb 06 16:22:49 <mjr_>	can't tell if short or long though
Feb 06 16:23:31 <mjr_>	if short, very interesting strategy...and not that bad really
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Feb 06 16:23:56 <mjr_>	last rally it touched 21.39 then dropped and hovererd between 21 and 19
Feb 06 16:24:08 <mjr_>	meaning this guy picked would have picked up .2 btc
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Feb 06 16:24:44 <mjr_>	of course i'm assuming this was the same person playing a straddle
Feb 06 16:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	seems likely.
Feb 06 16:25:21 <Bugpowder>	dudes
Feb 06 16:25:28 <Bugpowder>	I was just cleaning up my holdings page
Feb 06 16:25:32 <Bugpowder>	no strategy
Feb 06 16:25:36 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 06 16:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 06 16:25:39 <Bugpowder>	just get that shit out of there
Feb 06 16:26:01 <Bugpowder>	unfortunately the bot bids were down, so I lost .03 BTC on the play
Feb 06 16:26:12 <mjr_>	so no thoughts on where the btc usd is going?
Feb 06 16:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	gotta file chapter 11 now
Feb 06 16:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 4 @ 0.1749461 = 0.6998 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:28:13 <Bugpowder>	up up up
Feb 06 16:28:17 <mjr_>	the reddit page has gotten really annoying lately
Feb 06 16:28:29 <Bugpowder>	reddit is a terrible place, has been for years
Feb 06 16:28:32 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 06 16:28:34 <Lyspooner>	bring back witcoin
Feb 06 16:28:36 <Bugpowder>	like, I still read it
Feb 06 16:28:36 <mjr_>	its not that bad
Feb 06 16:28:37 <Bugpowder>	but
Feb 06 16:28:40 <mjr_>	yeah exactly
Feb 06 16:28:43 <ThickAsThieves>	up to $23 on Thurs/Fri, down to $20.50 Sat/Sun
Feb 06 16:28:45 <Bugpowder>	the discourse level is terribe
Feb 06 16:28:45 <mjr_>	and it has some good stuff
Feb 06 16:28:56 <mjr_>	not always, but i feel like it is getting dumbed down
Feb 06 16:29:07 <Lyspooner>	14,750 subscribers now on reddit
Feb 06 16:29:13 <Lyspooner>	they can't all be winners
Feb 06 16:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	the only way to fix it is have a 3btc registration fee
Feb 06 16:29:23 <Lyspooner>	and now matthew n wright is soiling the forums again
Feb 06 16:29:27 <mjr_>	nice
Feb 06 16:29:35 <mjr_>	i wonder...can you do that on a subreddit?
Feb 06 16:29:39 <mjr_>	i was thinking an mpex subreddit
Feb 06 16:29:57 <Lyspooner>	that's not a bad idea
Feb 06 16:30:02 <mjr_>	and where would the money go mp?
Feb 06 16:30:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.689 = 6.89 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:30:31 <mjr_>	i mean, i think it could be similar to the dynamic of #bitcoin vs #bitcoin-assets
Feb 06 16:30:35 <Lyspooner>	oh, a free subreddit i mean
Feb 06 16:30:36 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ hookers and blow.
Feb 06 16:30:42 <mjr_>	i'm in
Feb 06 16:30:48 <mjr_>	oh wait...you meant for you
Feb 06 16:30:53 <mjr_>	;-\
Feb 06 16:30:53 <Lyspooner>	no one would read the mpex subreddit based off of today's mpex link
Feb 06 16:31:01 <mjr_>	hahaha
Feb 06 16:31:04 <mjr_>	prove em right
Feb 06 16:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 06 16:31:17 <mjr_>	not only does mpex cost 30btc...the subreddit costs 3
Feb 06 16:31:26 <dub>	money goes to pay moderators
Feb 06 16:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	sounds so fucking evil
Feb 06 16:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	but yeah, dub has a point
Feb 06 16:31:41 <dub>	moderation is KPI'd on user satisfaction surveys
Feb 06 16:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	money goes to pay moderators' hookers and blow
Feb 06 16:31:56 <mjr_>	i just think it is so retarded, and i get caught up into trying to explain the diff between exchange and broker
Feb 06 16:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ to some 16 yo kid spazzing out...
Feb 06 16:32:13 <mjr_>	they act like everyone who wants to day trade gets a seat  on NySE for free
Feb 06 16:32:28 <mjr_>	its actually 3-4 million dollars
Feb 06 16:32:33 <mjr_>	so if anything mpex is a deal
Feb 06 16:32:46 <Lyspooner>	how about as a percentage of M2?
Feb 06 16:32:51 <mircea_popescu>	hahahaha asshat
Feb 06 16:32:55 <mjr_>	btw...if anyone is wondering i'm either mjrIII or therealjoshrossi on reddit
Feb 06 16:32:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00069959 = 8.1152 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:32:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00069055 = 2.4515 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ there's people to whom 30btc or 3mn bux are exactly the same :
Feb 06 16:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	more dough than they'll ever see together.
Feb 06 16:33:40 <mjr_>	i suppose...and that is true...but if someone told you you could have a lamborghini for $600 i bet you would find a way
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Feb 06 16:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	i don't drive.
Feb 06 16:33:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 3 @ 0.17512989 = 0.5254 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:34:00 <mjr_>	hehehe, me neither
Feb 06 16:34:04 <Lyspooner>	me neither
Feb 06 16:34:07 <mjr_>	nyc is the best for that reason
Feb 06 16:34:18 <mjr_>	i mean vs places you have to drice
Feb 06 16:34:19 <mjr_>	drive
Feb 06 16:34:20 <mjr_>	like la
Feb 06 16:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	this town isn't too bad either.
Feb 06 16:34:35 <Lyspooner>	there aren't roads in your town
Feb 06 16:34:54 <mjr_>	i have no clue what town we are talking about
Feb 06 16:34:58 <Lyspooner>	just trodden paths
Feb 06 16:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4137/4885281777_7e7a3727a6_b.jpg"
Feb 06 16:36:01 <mircea_popescu>	bullshit flicker with their spaceout.gif
Feb 06 16:36:09 <mircea_popescu>	what do these fuckers thing they'll accomplish ? srsly now.
Feb 06 16:36:16 <Lyspooner>	there's a statue missing in your photo
Feb 06 16:36:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069994 = 3.0244 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1429 @ 0.00069998 = 1.0003 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:36:29 <mircea_popescu>	gypo musta gypped it.
Feb 06 16:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3372 @ 0.00069087 = 2.3296 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1446 @ 0.00069056 = 0.9985 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7182 @ 0.00069055 = 4.9595 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.0065 = 325 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:40:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 3 @ 0.17510134 = 0.5253 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4942 @ 0.00069055 = 3.4127 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:41:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068657 = 2.9667 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068657 = 2.9667 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4737 @ 0.00068656 = 3.2522 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:42:23 <smickles>	;;calc -18/(.175-1)
Feb 06 16:42:24 <gribble>	21.8181818182
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Feb 06 16:42:34 <smickles>	;;ticker
Feb 06 16:42:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.12881, Best ask: 21.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02119, Last trade: 21.15000, 24 hour volume: 53390.41805179, 24 hour low: 20.50000, 24 hour high: 21.33390, 24 hour vwap: 21.04660
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Feb 06 16:43:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069983 = 3.024 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10366 @ 0.00069998 = 7.256 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9990 @ 0.00069998 = 6.9928 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.0065 = 325 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 16:44:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069987 = 3.0241 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1629 @ 0.00069998 = 1.1403 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.0065 = 325 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.0065 = 325 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	o it started ?
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Feb 06 16:48:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 2 @ 0.17510134 = 0.3502 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00621011 = 9.9362 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00623 = 9.345 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.0062101 = 5.5891 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00621 = 9.315 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5917 @ 0.00620002 = 36.6855 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:51:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3520 @ 0.00620001 = 21.824 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 17041 @ 0.0062 = 105.6542 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:51:04 <smickles>	funny to see soebot doing .35 btc sells along side of someone doing (what I assume to be) 325 btc buys
Feb 06 16:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13069 @ 0.00068681 = 8.9759 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:53:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 06 16:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5706 @ 0.00068681 = 3.9189 BTC [-]
Feb 06 16:55:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.03690265 BTC [+]
Feb 06 16:56:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 2 @ 0.17507573 = 0.3502 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 16:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 06 16:57:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0055 / 0.00594765 / 0.00677999 (1495456 shares, 8,894.46 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00575865 / 0.007395 (3152410 shares, 18,153.65 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00524449 / 0.0075 (8266098 shares, 43,351.51 BTC)
Feb 06 16:57:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00069997 = 0.77 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 17:00:32 <Namworld>	Last hour before I remove the ask on S.DICE-PT
Feb 06 17:02:07 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: please do, so I can sell those last ones I have left
Feb 06 17:02:43 <Bugpowder>	EskimoBob, you know that if you are selling you should be PROMOTING the stock until you exit your position, right?
Feb 06 17:03:10 <Namworld>	Erhm, how would that help you sell them?
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Feb 06 17:03:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00069386 = 2.3938 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:03:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068703 = 2.9687 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:03:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00068681 = 0.638 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:03:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:03:32 <Namworld>	Unless you just bought some at 0.0062?
Feb 06 17:03:51 <Namworld>	My pass-through is brand new.
Feb 06 17:04:13 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: how do you know what I am really planning? Please feel free to overanalyze the situation ;)
Feb 06 17:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 789 @ 0.00611994 = 4.8286 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:05:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3221 @ 0.00069997 = 2.2546 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2508 @ 0.00069998 = 1.7555 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 771 @ 0.00069998 = 0.5397 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 17:05:11 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: new one? How many we have now?
Feb 06 17:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	eskimobob has a position now ?! in what ?
Feb 06 17:05:23 <vampireb>	a sex position of course :-)
Feb 06 17:05:34 <vampireb>	in what... um.
Feb 06 17:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	in da butt ?
Feb 06 17:06:07 <smickles>	there are only, really, 2 good choices, imo
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Feb 06 17:07:18 <awkorama>	good evening
Feb 06 17:07:56 <EskimoBob>	smickles: did you forget both of them?
Feb 06 17:08:01 <EskimoBob>	.)
Feb 06 17:08:38 <smickles>	heh, yeah, too much hardcore minecraft
Feb 06 17:08:53 <smickles>	(lol, i even expected it to tab-complete minecraft)
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Feb 06 17:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 2 @ 0.16938766 = 0.3388 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 17:13:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.679 = 6.79 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:14:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068707 = 2.9688 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:14:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12779 @ 0.00068681 = 8.7767 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.17544034 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:17:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069982 = 3.0239 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:17:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1440 @ 0.00069998 = 1.008 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:17:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7152 @ 0.00069998 = 5.0063 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:17:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 794 @ 0.00069999 = 0.5558 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:19:12 <Namworld>	EskimoBob: it's on BTCT.co, name S.DICE-PT
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Feb 06 17:21:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069965 = 3.0232 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00069998 = 1.2453 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:22:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.67 = 6.7 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 17:24:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.17541191 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 17:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	"Yeah, do that...convince multimillion dollar companies to trust you with their shares, make a secure system, garner a large enough user base to provide liquidity. Sounds like that would be a lot easier than paying 30 BTC"
Feb 06 17:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol mjr_
Feb 06 17:29:37 <mjr_>	hehehe
Feb 06 17:29:39 <mjr_>	glad you approve
Feb 06 17:29:54 <mircea_popescu>	but this is bitcoin!
Feb 06 17:30:01 <mircea_popescu>	maff!
Feb 06 17:30:08 <mjr_>	extortion
Feb 06 17:30:15 <mjr_>	i am allowing you tochoose my product or not
Feb 06 17:30:19 <mjr_>	stop extorting me bro
Feb 06 17:30:45 <mjr_>	seriously, 3 to 4 mill to get on NYSE
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Feb 06 17:30:59 <mjr_>	and i don't think they had pretty UI on those terminals
Feb 06 17:31:16 <mjr_>	and if anyone has ever tried to use FIX...mpex is a LOT easier
Feb 06 17:31:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.175386 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	"lol, what alternatives are there" "Colored coin, once its working correctly."
Feb 06 17:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	why ? because i'm shady
Feb 06 17:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	this has got to be like... liberal logic or something.
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Feb 06 17:33:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069274 = 2.9933 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:33:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.0006924 = 4.3621 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068682 = 3.4341 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:33:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 586 @ 0.00068681 = 0.4025 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:33:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1653 @ 0.00068681 = 1.1353 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:33:30 <mjr_>	oh, sorry we sent that reject, you set your tag 55 to mpex
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Feb 06 17:33:45 <mjr_>	i am liberal
Feb 06 17:33:47 <mjr_>	but i am not stupid
Feb 06 17:33:56 <mjr_>	i think there are dumb people all around
Feb 06 17:34:04 <mjr_>	political leanings aside
Feb 06 17:34:56 <mjr_>	this is why i like bitcoins though, if you are liberal you can appreciate empowering people...if you are conservative you can appreciate good fiscal policy
Feb 06 17:35:16 <mjr_>	bill and melinda gates foundation's new push is to move towards a cashless society
Feb 06 17:35:23 <mjr_>	because it will help to stop poverty
Feb 06 17:35:41 <mjr_>	they have different ideas about it than bitcoin, but this is an idea whose time has come
Feb 06 17:36:04 <dub>	we always new billy boy was teh antichrist
Feb 06 17:36:13 <dub>	now, proof!
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Feb 06 17:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ mayhap you have a point
Feb 06 17:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	"stop poverty" such idiocy
Feb 06 17:37:30 <mjr_>	well
Feb 06 17:37:32 <jborkl>	complete fail
Feb 06 17:37:41 <mjr_>	i think they specifically mean, stop governments from stealing from their people
Feb 06 17:37:45 <mircea_popescu>	poverty is great : without poor people there's absolutely no way to explain to idiot kids frittering their time on reddit why this is a bad idea.
Feb 06 17:37:48 <mjr_>	and make sure the aid gets where we meant it to go
Feb 06 17:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	you mean the aids ?
Feb 06 17:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	sorry, couldn
Feb 06 17:38:04 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 06 17:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	t pass on that :D
Feb 06 17:38:07 <jborkl>	yes, that is what i was thinking
Feb 06 17:38:07 <mjr_>	hehehe
Feb 06 17:38:13 <jborkl>	the aid goes to aids
Feb 06 17:38:23 <mjr_>	but seriously, corrupt governments rely on their control of the currency
Feb 06 17:38:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 170 @ 0.0062 = 1.054 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	cashless society just empowers that control.
Feb 06 17:38:39 <mjr_>	take that away and the people have a much stronger footing
Feb 06 17:38:42 <jborkl>	and when in the history of man has this been elimintated
Feb 06 17:38:44 <mjr_>	not really
Feb 06 17:38:47 <mjr_>	never
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Feb 06 17:38:54 <jborkl>	history is correct
Feb 06 17:38:54 <mjr_>	but we have never had a currency like bitcoin
Feb 06 17:39:00 <dub>	people have it so backwards, when we give aid to africa we are simply repaying some of the AIDS they gave us
Feb 06 17:39:02 <jborkl>	history is correct
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Feb 06 17:39:06 <mjr_>	yes, i have never seen a black swan so therefore i never will see one
Feb 06 17:39:40 <mjr_>	every record setting earthquake could not have been predicted using the past
Feb 06 17:39:49 <mjr_>	since they are by definition the largest earthquake on record
Feb 06 17:39:56 *	mircea_popescu basks in the secure knowledge that his own hired trolls are so much better than amateurs like dub will ever be :D
Feb 06 17:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00069258 = 3.6014 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:40:28 <mjr_>	my point being that although we can learn from history, to think that it contains all we need to know is obviously false
Feb 06 17:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ it doesn't contain it in fact. it contains it in essence.
Feb 06 17:40:51 <mjr_>	has there ever been an empire that avoided collapse in response to its treatment of its citizens?
Feb 06 17:40:53 <dub>	mircea_popescu: you ain't seen me troll boa
Feb 06 17:40:53 <jborkl>	History repeats itself, always
Feb 06 17:40:56 <Bugpowder>	well looks like the S.DICE action settled down
Feb 06 17:40:57 <mjr_>	it does
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Feb 06 17:41:03 <mircea_popescu>	the mobile vulgus of today, herpderping on reddit, is the exact same mobile vulgus of 20 ad
Feb 06 17:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	nothing changed.
Feb 06 17:41:05 <mjr_>	so that is why we got those computers the cavemen invented AGAIN
Feb 06 17:41:17 <Bugpowder>	450k sold and another 700k flashed
Feb 06 17:41:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069362 = 2.9971 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:41:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4008 @ 0.00069347 = 2.7794 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:41:33 <jborkl>	lol, yes some caveman was talking shit a long time ago...
Feb 06 17:41:35 <mjr_>	to say that computers were expected based on history...or that they didn't change the world...is just not possible
Feb 06 17:41:51 <mjr_>	so no, not everything is cyclical
Feb 06 17:41:52 <jborkl>	you don't understand. not invention, history
Feb 06 17:41:57 <mjr_>	yes i get it
Feb 06 17:42:19 <mjr_>	and i am saying if you think that you have seen everything that life can possibly throw at you...expect to be surprised
Feb 06 17:42:32 <mjr_>	people will be people
Feb 06 17:42:52 <mjr_>	but if you are a rational person...people respond to incentive and disincentive...
Feb 06 17:42:55 <jborkl>	No, I am not suprised- I expect people to do shitty things
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Feb 06 17:43:04 <mjr_>	and those will forever change in ways we can't predict
Feb 06 17:43:13 <jborkl>	Not in my opinion
Feb 06 17:43:19 <mjr_>	ok...
Feb 06 17:43:26 <mjr_>	you are welcome to your opinion
Feb 06 17:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069976 = 3.0237 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11929 @ 0.00069998 = 8.3501 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:43:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00069998 = 1.715 BTC [+]
Feb 06 17:43:46 <jborkl>	People killed,scammed and did the same shitty things 1000 years ago..they will do so again
Feb 06 17:43:54 <mjr_>	but i think that yes, people will always be people, there will be shitty people, stupid people, evil people, good people, smart people
Feb 06 17:44:00 <mjr_>	i agree
Feb 06 17:44:10 <mjr_>	they also did nice things then and now
Feb 06 17:44:16 <mjr_>	we agree on that
Feb 06 17:44:21 <jborkl>	I do not dispute that
Feb 06 17:44:31 <mjr_>	but does the life they live, what they do and how they do it not change?
Feb 06 17:44:50 <mjr_>	for example HOW we treat others like shit
Feb 06 17:45:12 <mjr_>	it used to take years for a caveman to be able to troll another guy on the other side of the country
Feb 06 17:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5692 @ 0.00069347 = 3.9472 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:45:16 <mjr_>	now we cn do it in seconds
Feb 06 17:45:16 <jborkl>	people do not change, I have tried for 20 years seeing it. A reformed meth head, will be a meth head again -almost all the time
Feb 06 17:45:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol  good one
Feb 06 17:45:35 <mjr_>	you proved my point
Feb 06 17:45:40 <mjr_>	"almost all the time"
Feb 06 17:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl i have seen people change first hand. it involves chains and whips tho.
Feb 06 17:45:49 <jborkl>	Force
Feb 06 17:45:52 <jborkl>	=power
Feb 06 17:45:57 <jborkl>	I agree
Feb 06 17:46:00 <mjr_>	well...true
Feb 06 17:46:03 <mjr_>	but the way i see it
Feb 06 17:46:07 <mjr_>	is that at the end of the day
Feb 06 17:46:14 <mjr_>	the one with the force is the one with the most peolpe
Feb 06 17:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	not exactly force in that sense, no.
Feb 06 17:46:26 <jborkl>	I understand
Feb 06 17:46:30 <mjr_>	cuz of armies? police?
Feb 06 17:46:39 <mjr_>	they have to be paid...
Feb 06 17:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	nah. peopl;e are practically made out of two halves. there's a beast within
Feb 06 17:46:49 <mjr_>	bad finances equals no army, no police
Feb 06 17:46:54 <mjr_>	i agree
Feb 06 17:47:04 <mjr_>	but you can still treat people decently...everyone here has been very nice
Feb 06 17:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	even if the person agrees with you, the subconsciouis needs to be straightened too
Feb 06 17:47:48 <DeadWeasel>	I contain multitudes.
Feb 06 17:47:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6841 @ 0.0006912 = 4.7285 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:47:54 <mjr_>	it is like baseball
Feb 06 17:48:04 <mjr_>	most teams will lose 60 games and win 60 games
Feb 06 17:48:06 <jborkl>	No, people are always going to be violent. It is the way of the world. Ask Sierra Leone
Feb 06 17:48:14 <mjr_>	its what happens in those other 42 games that really matter
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Feb 06 17:48:47 <mjr_>	so yes, on the whole, people are bad and good, but in that zone in between, there is room for growth and change, and that can inspire or disappoint
Feb 06 17:49:13 <mjr_>	and sure people will be violent...
Feb 06 17:49:17 <mjr_>	but i have one question
Feb 06 17:49:17 <jborkl>	I am not going to argue right and wrong. That is a fallacy, because it is the perception of right and wrong to the individual
Feb 06 17:49:36 <mjr_>	how many people got shot because of gun violence on silk road?
Feb 06 17:49:49 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 06 17:49:59 <mjr_>	no "deals going bad"
Feb 06 17:50:04 <mjr_>	we can become safer
Feb 06 17:50:10 <mjr_>	and minimize the abiltiy of others to harm us
Feb 06 17:50:28 <jborkl>	You are not looking at how they got the money for drugs, most drug dealers don't get shot peddling drugs and I don't really care if they do
Feb 06 17:50:30 <mjr_>	the point is not to say the system is good or bad, the point is to say that i can thrive in the system as it is
Feb 06 17:51:25 <jborkl>	I can't even remember what we are talking about
Feb 06 17:51:32 <mjr_>	lol yeah me too
Feb 06 17:51:36 <mjr_>	but i enjoyed the convo
Feb 06 17:51:49 <jborkl>	yeah, me too
Feb 06 17:52:03 <mjr_>	i think we in general agree tbh
Feb 06 17:52:11 <mjr_>	we just focus on different parts
Feb 06 17:52:15 <dub>	drug dealers are people too bro
Feb 06 17:52:27 <mjr_>	i agree there will always be poverty, shitty people, crime, violence
Feb 06 17:52:42 <mjr_>	but i think there will also be innovation, beauty, happiness
Feb 06 17:52:49 <jborkl>	I do not pass judgment on what people do, they understand risk involved. So I do not feel compassion
Feb 06 17:52:50 <mjr_>	so i focus on maximizing one, and minimizing the other
Feb 06 17:53:52 <mjr_>	i wish i had bought that straddle from bugpowder
Feb 06 17:54:08 <jborkl>	I figure it is their problem if they can't handle their business
Feb 06 17:54:20 <mjr_>	i think it is gonna just bumble around 21 for a week
Feb 06 17:54:30 <mjr_>	probably longer
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Feb 06 17:56:55 <dub>	no pok
Feb 06 17:58:13 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieDXIhci7o
Feb 06 17:58:30 <thepok>	?
Feb 06 17:59:03 <dub>	no pok i tell you
Feb 06 17:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068684 = 3.4342 BTC [-]
Feb 06 17:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00068683 = 1.3393 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:02:18 <thepok>	ok
Feb 06 18:02:30 <thepok>	thay was an rather stupid bt funny vid
Feb 06 18:02:32 <thepok>	;D
Feb 06 18:02:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1086 @ 0.0062 = 6.7332 BTC [+]
Feb 06 18:04:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069694 = 3.0115 BTC [+]
Feb 06 18:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1299 @ 0.00069727 = 0.9058 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 18:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2371 @ 0.00068683 = 1.6285 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4647 @ 0.00068682 = 3.1917 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 18:11:32 <DeadWeasel>	no pok?
Feb 06 18:12:21 <Bowjob>	look at those havelock bids
Feb 06 18:16:05 <jurov>	so did evoorhees say when? same time?
Feb 06 18:17:46 <DeadWeasel>	i see 58,000 shares asking .0062 on bitfunder...
Feb 06 18:18:00 <DeadWeasel>	is dropping another million?
Feb 06 18:20:17 <jurov>	I will do the next tranche at roughly the same time tomorrow (Wed. evening 10pm EST). Price will be .0062 per share this time.
Feb 06 18:20:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 353 @ 0.00068682 = 0.2424 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:20:32 <jurov>	presumably on MPEx
Feb 06 18:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3347 @ 0.00068681 = 2.2988 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 213 @ 0.00068656 = 0.1462 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068621 = 2.9651 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006862 = 6.862 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:20:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5266 @ 0.00068619 = 3.6135 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:20:51 <kakobrekla>	i dunno exactly why i didnt push all the coins in at 44
Feb 06 18:21:09 <kakobrekla>	perhaps i got a stroke and half of my brain is dead.
Feb 06 18:21:44 <Bugpowder>	I wish I had been awake
Feb 06 18:21:50 <kakobrekla>	o i was.
Feb 06 18:21:51 <Bugpowder>	I would have bought half the stack
Feb 06 18:22:14 <Bowjob>	He'll drop 3 million shares more
Feb 06 18:22:27 <Bowjob>	I wonder if that will actually drop down the price post ipo
Feb 06 18:22:35 <Bowjob>	since the supply have increased..
Feb 06 18:22:40 <Bugpowder>	nope
Feb 06 18:22:41 <kakobrekla>	it wont
Feb 06 18:22:45 <kakobrekla>	r u silly
Feb 06 18:22:51 <Bugpowder>	it may set a ceiling for a while
Feb 06 18:22:54 <Bugpowder>	maybe
Feb 06 18:23:06 <Bowjob>	the 7xx was fueled by its scarcity partly
Feb 06 18:23:09 <Bugpowder>	only thing that will drop the price is falling bet volumes
Feb 06 18:23:18 <Bugpowder>	7xx was fueled by fundamental
Feb 06 18:23:23 <Bugpowder>	2.8% dividend
Feb 06 18:23:43 <Bugpowder>	.8xx on havelock was scarcity
Feb 06 18:24:03 <Bugpowder>	price is down right now only cause people know drop is coming at .0062
Feb 06 18:24:05 <Bowjob>	mhm, the volumes going up so far steadily, our little whale seems to have taken a break
Feb 06 18:24:14 <Bowjob>	but dice is up 6k
Feb 06 18:24:20 <Bugpowder>	Well, I think the whale lost all his coins
Feb 06 18:24:23 <Bugpowder>	seriosly
Feb 06 18:24:30 <Bowjob>	thats not good
Feb 06 18:24:38 <Ukto>	whale == bot
Feb 06 18:24:39 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 06 18:24:54 <Bowjob>	well, the whale was the one who jacked up the dice's price
Feb 06 18:25:03 <Bugpowder>	Watch some new addresses spring up after the tranches selling out ;-)
Feb 06 18:25:07 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 06 18:25:12 <Bowjob>	we need more whales and his buddies
Feb 06 18:25:22 <Bowjob>	someone advertise on rich kids of instagram
Feb 06 18:25:27 <Bugpowder>	LOL
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Feb 06 18:26:10 <Bowjob>	they seem to have no problems opening a bottle of dom to wash something, may as well play dice to get moar monies
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Feb 06 18:27:45 <Bowjob>	soon enough we can all take a pic of our wallets and post it on rkoi lol
Feb 06 18:28:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 18:29:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00069249 = 3.6009 BTC [+]
Feb 06 18:30:23 <mjr_>	although no spikes from whales, total bets still increasing steadily?
Feb 06 18:30:27 <jurov>	like rkoi would understand such nerdiness
Feb 06 18:30:39 <mjr_>	i would prefer steady sustainable growth
Feb 06 18:30:49 <mjr_>	steady dividends
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Feb 06 18:31:01 <Bowjob>	well, i dont think s.dice is sustainable with btc price rocketing at this rate
Feb 06 18:31:07 <mjr_>	well...
Feb 06 18:31:09 <mjr_>	i suppose
Feb 06 18:31:13 <Bowjob>	i mean, lets say btc shooots up to the moooon
Feb 06 18:31:16 <mjr_>	they can make smaller bets
Feb 06 18:31:23 <mjr_>	but that is still just as good
Feb 06 18:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00069249 = 0.277 BTC [+]
Feb 06 18:31:30 <mjr_>	since the stock is denominated in btc
Feb 06 18:31:50 <mjr_>	oh sorry, i keep thinking about how i will show the total portfolio gains in USD
Feb 06 18:31:52 <Bowjob>	yeah but i doubt the volume will go that high if btc goes to 500
Feb 06 18:31:54 <mjr_>	which will be killer regardless
Feb 06 18:32:06 <mjr_>	i don't think i will worry too much if btc goes that high
Feb 06 18:32:09 <mjr_>	but the fact remains
Feb 06 18:32:23 <jurov>	Bugpowder was throwing some nice curves around
Feb 06 18:32:24 <mjr_>	small bet worth big dollars = big bet worth small dollars
Feb 06 18:32:35 <mjr_>	not that i want dollars
Feb 06 18:32:43 <jurov>	even mpoe-pr  asked permission to use them
Feb 06 18:32:43 <mjr_>	i am going as long as possible bitcoins
Feb 06 18:32:58 <mjr_>	where can i see those?
Feb 06 18:33:05 <mjr_>	are you talking graphs?
Feb 06 18:33:08 <jurov>	yea
Feb 06 18:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006863 = 2.9655 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:33:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6729 @ 0.0006862 = 4.6174 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:33:14 <mjr_>	they posted anywhere?
Feb 06 18:33:20 <jurov>	yea
Feb 06 18:33:57 <mjr_>	i'm still blown away by girlsgonebitcoin
Feb 06 18:34:01 <mjr_>	that was really fast
Feb 06 18:34:02 <jurov>	but don't remember where
Feb 06 18:34:03 <mjr_>	hahaha
Feb 06 18:34:09 <jurov>	what happened?
Feb 06 18:34:15 <mjr_>	NSFW
Feb 06 18:34:28 <mjr_>	that site springing up and girls knowing about and wanting bitcoins
Feb 06 18:34:40 <mjr_>	think that was a lot rarer a year ago
Feb 06 18:34:54 <Bowjob>	if girls can want bitcoin, then rkoi can undertstand them
Feb 06 18:34:54 <mjr_>	very tech centric (which usually means male centric) user base
Feb 06 18:35:02 <jurov>	oooh old news. i was hoping for some juicy details
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Feb 06 18:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2265 @ 0.0006862 = 1.5542 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14879 @ 0.00068619 = 10.2098 BTC [-]
Feb 06 18:35:52 <mjr_>	yeah sorry to disappoint
Feb 06 18:35:54 <mjr_>	question
Feb 06 18:36:15 <mjr_>	tell me someone else collects rich kids instagram...and they don't knowingly put it themselves on a site called rich kids of instagram
Feb 06 18:37:46 <Bowjob>	no they knowingly put themselves in there
Feb 06 18:38:00 <Bowjob>	you can also advertise on rich kids of instagram for 500 dollars per 2 days
Feb 06 18:39:38 <jurov>	found at rkoi: http://25.media.tumblr.com/e45e90612ca90f7bd579402427745dff/tumblr_mggzznJlmZ1rb86ldo1_400.jpg
Feb 06 18:39:50 <jurov>	we're not fo far from that, really
Feb 06 18:40:02 <Bowjob>	yeah i seen that. that dude lost a bunch of monies
Feb 06 18:40:19 <jurov>	in fact, i get bigger commissions that that
Feb 06 18:45:53 <mjr_>	you should
Feb 06 18:45:54 <mjr_>	that is tiny
Feb 06 18:46:09 <Bowjob>	http://richkidsofinstagram.tumblr.com/post/38024884212/3k-truffle
Feb 06 18:46:12 <mjr_>	i didn't wnt to do the math
Feb 06 18:46:18 <mjr_>	was that whne it hit 700?
Feb 06 18:46:25 <Bowjob>	The said part is the waiter touched the plate with his fingers causing some prints
Feb 06 18:46:35 <Bowjob>	that made me sad
Feb 06 18:46:36 <Bowjob>	:/
Feb 06 18:46:59 <mjr_>	yes...but isn't that why we are all here
Feb 06 18:47:13 <mjr_>	so that our kids can have the opportunity to be on RKOI that we may have not gotten?
Feb 06 18:47:22 <Bowjob>	dude i am the kid
Feb 06 18:47:23 <Bowjob>	lol
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Feb 06 18:48:18 <Bowjob>	i just hope btc dont shoot up to the moon while i still have dice shares
Feb 06 18:48:28 <mjr_>	why not?
Feb 06 18:48:41 <mjr_>	you want to know whats funny?
Feb 06 18:48:45 <mjr_>	on seals with clubs
Feb 06 18:48:46 <Bowjob>	i fear the dice will be left behind
Feb 06 18:48:55 <mjr_>	they don't know how much btc costs
Feb 06 18:48:58 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 06 18:49:14 <mjr_>	think they get freerolls (a bunch of them do anyway)
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Feb 06 18:49:27 <mjr_>	some would not know how to buy
Feb 06 18:49:57 <Bowjob>	1 btc = 200 dollars 1.5 years from now.
Feb 06 18:50:16 <Bowjob>	people wont bet the same stake with btc
Feb 06 18:50:26 <Bowjob>	the prob, is we already paid 0.xx62 with dice
Feb 06 18:50:42 <Bowjob>	we may get return dollar wise, but not btc wise
Feb 06 18:50:55 <Bowjob>	it all depends if dice can keep up with btc
Feb 06 18:51:16 <mjr_>	well
Feb 06 18:51:23 <mjr_>	that is true and i hadn't thought about that
Feb 06 18:51:34 <jurov>	in 1.5 years you may as well get back the full s.dice investment
Feb 06 18:51:45 <jurov>	in divs
Feb 06 18:51:54 <Bowjob>	im not sure if 20k a month is sustainable
Feb 06 18:52:05 <mjr_>	http://www.cnbc.com/id/100439059
Feb 06 18:52:15 <Bowjob>	the prob is 21 million btc, dice is already worth 600k
Feb 06 18:52:16 <mjr_>	guess RKOI didn't have this guy as a dad
Feb 06 18:52:22 <aiball>	a single poker table makes 20k a month
Feb 06 18:52:43 <mjr_>	i personally think it is going to balance out
Feb 06 18:52:46 <Bowjob>	20k btc
Feb 06 18:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068657 = 2.9667 BTC [+]
Feb 06 18:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00068667 = 11.3301 BTC [+]
Feb 06 18:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1622 @ 0.00069016 = 1.1194 BTC [+]
Feb 06 18:53:12 <Bowjob>	and im not sure if the general public would be interested in playing dice.. everyone i know is broke
Feb 06 18:53:14 <Bowjob>	cept me
Feb 06 18:53:19 <mjr_>	well..
Feb 06 18:53:24 <mjr_>	scratchoffs
Feb 06 18:53:27 <mjr_>	bitcoin equivalent
Feb 06 18:53:28 <mjr_>	LOL
Feb 06 18:53:34 <mjr_>	anyways, gotta run guys
Feb 06 18:53:40 <mjr_>	see you later tonight
Feb 06 18:55:35 <dub>	I call bunk
Feb 06 18:56:33 <dub>	those are poor kids with rich frinds posting that shit
Feb 06 18:56:39 <dub>	why would you bother if you were actually rich
Feb 06 18:58:18 <mjr_>	i would say it's cheaper than taking out an ad in "i'm a douche magazine" but oh yeah, their rich, they dont' have to worry about that
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Feb 06 19:02:36 <dub>	how does this get here http://richkidsofinstagram.tumblr.com/post/40053795655/buckle-up-the-champers nasty ass veuve
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Feb 06 19:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068621 = 2.9651 BTC [-]
Feb 06 19:08:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11429 @ 0.0006862 = 7.8426 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 19:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2791 @ 0.00068684 = 1.917 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:19:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 531 @ 0.0006862 = 0.3644 BTC [-]
Feb 06 19:20:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 60 @ 0.0007 = 0.042 BTC
Feb 06 19:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068999 = 2.9814 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10377 @ 0.00069016 = 7.1618 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00069444 = 8.6458 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11851 @ 0.00069727 = 8.2633 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00069833 = 10.7543 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00069891 = 16.3894 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3136 @ 0.00069998 = 2.1951 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6841 @ 0.00069998 = 4.7886 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9647 @ 0.00069998 = 6.7527 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10353 @ 0.00069998 = 7.2469 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8994 @ 0.00069998 = 6.2956 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86779 @ 0.00069999 = 60.7444 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 796401 @ 0.0007 = 557.4807 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:21:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.0007 = 0.007 BTC
Feb 06 19:21:39 <jurov>	uhm
Feb 06 19:21:58 <jurov>	someone is arbing S.MPOE-PT?
Feb 06 19:23:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3497 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 19:24:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.338 = 1.014 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 19:26:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0062 = 0.124 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:26:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.3497 = 3.1473 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:29:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.339 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:31:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.0098 = 0.098 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:32:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0699 BTC
Feb 06 19:32:30 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 06 19:32:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066705 / 0.0006913 / 0.0007 (3786811 shares, 2,617.85 BTC), 7D: 0.00064676 / 0.00067984 / 0.0007 (17598878 shares, 11,964.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066287 / 0.0007 (64477504 shares, 42,740.59 BTC)
Feb 06 19:36:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068643 = 2.9661 BTC [-]
Feb 06 19:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 179 @ 0.0006862 = 0.1228 BTC [-]
Feb 06 19:40:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.0006887 = 3.3058 BTC [+]
Feb 06 19:40:51 *	da2ce7_d is now known as da2ce7
Feb 06 19:42:13 <thestringpuller>	stayed steady through your controversy
Feb 06 19:42:21 <thestringpuller>	your investors have faith in you MP ;)
Feb 06 19:42:47 <jurov>	what controversy?
Feb 06 19:43:12 <thestringpuller>	i misused the words
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Feb 06 19:43:19 <thestringpuller>	internet scuffle with neckbeard*
Feb 06 19:43:22 <thestringpuller>	internet scuffle with neckbeards*
Feb 06 19:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol which one is this ?
Feb 06 19:44:06 <jurov>	you expected these reddit hers to achieve some result?
Feb 06 19:44:14 <jurov>	*herds
Feb 06 19:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	jurov they'll bittip each otehr 0.02
Feb 06 19:44:32 <mircea_popescu>	surely that must do something.
Feb 06 19:44:54 <thestringpuller>	I didn't think anything. I was curious to see how the investors would react to it.
Feb 06 19:45:02 <jcpham>	oooh link me
Feb 06 19:45:09 <jcpham>	to whatever thisw new drama is
Feb 06 19:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17zmzr/wanted_to_create_an_account_on_mpex_but_30btc_for/
Feb 06 19:45:46 <jcpham>	oh snap
Feb 06 19:45:54 <jcpham>	streisand'd
Feb 06 19:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's so weird how people think.
Feb 06 19:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	a block is 25 btc, there's 250 a day. each day.
Feb 06 19:47:17 <jcpham>	they still call you shady
Feb 06 19:47:22 <mircea_popescu>	somehow random douche is CONVINCED that 30 btc is too much for everyone. total btc cap might as well be 35
Feb 06 19:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	same thing : network output is 25th. luke does 0.120 th
Feb 06 19:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	he somehow thinks he'll kill s.dice
Feb 06 19:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's like this sort of supermunchausen syndrome
Feb 06 19:48:22 <jcpham>	it's difficult for me to attribute moral things to bitcoin
Feb 06 19:48:29 <jcpham>	when in essence the blockchain is god
Feb 06 19:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	but a simple problem of perception. a two ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut
Feb 06 19:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	that sorta stuff
Feb 06 19:49:22 <jcpham>	the web seems sortof clique-ish to me
Feb 06 19:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	these guys literally go around convinced they're personally like 60-70% of reality
Feb 06 19:49:24 <thestringpuller>	you need significant capital to play the market on mpex these days anyways
Feb 06 19:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	and there's 50 million of them
Feb 06 19:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.0006879 = 2.8204 BTC [-]
Feb 06 19:49:58 <thestringpuller>	http://i.imgur.com/YQxh2jE.jpg
Feb 06 19:49:59 <jcpham>	to much flaming on the http
Feb 06 19:50:10 <thestringpuller>	not enough pretty girls covered in paint
Feb 06 19:50:18 <mircea_popescu>	who the hell cums purple
Feb 06 19:50:34 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/85.html
Feb 06 19:50:39 <mircea_popescu>	there, knock yourself out
Feb 06 19:50:41 <jurov>	maybe can be done with enough food paint
Feb 06 19:50:55 <jurov>	we should try sometime
Feb 06 19:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3121 @ 0.0006879 = 2.1469 BTC [-]
Feb 06 19:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2517 @ 0.0006862 = 1.7272 BTC [-]
Feb 06 19:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6762 @ 0.00068619 = 4.64 BTC [-]
Feb 06 19:52:59 <thestringpuller>	Lol. This is the stuff you should have a paywall on
Feb 06 19:53:19 <jurov>	no, the best things in life are free
Feb 06 19:54:00 <thestringpuller>	i feel like if it didn't take an elaborate date to get laid that would be true
Feb 06 19:54:23 <mircea_popescu>	people still date ?!
Feb 06 19:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00068619 = 1.1322 BTC [-]
Feb 06 19:54:55 <jurov>	eskimobob should scream now "MP is corrupting its puppets with porn!!!"
Feb 06 19:55:17 <topace_>	so, predictions for 2 hours from now? sell out as fast? or a little slower this time? we're not that much under what the market was at before all this starte
Feb 06 19:55:19 <topace_>	d
Feb 06 19:55:48 <mircea_popescu>	i guess not huh
Feb 06 19:56:43 <thestringpuller>	i ain't no puppet
Feb 06 19:56:52 <thestringpuller>	i'm a real boy
Feb 06 19:57:37 <jurov>	;;seen smickles
Feb 06 19:57:38 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 48 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <smickles> (lol, i even expected it to tab-complete minecraft)
Feb 06 19:58:05 <jurov>	ofc, porn is for real boys
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Feb 06 20:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6473 @ 0.00068619 = 4.4417 BTC [-]
Feb 06 20:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	Dear Wikipedia readers: We are the small non-profit that runs the #5 website in the world. We have only 150 staff but serve 450 million users
Feb 06 20:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	i open wikipedia for the first time in like 3 months
Feb 06 20:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	there's a different begging popup than last time
Feb 06 20:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	scum of the interwebs.
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Feb 06 20:09:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 450 @ 0.0062 = 2.79 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:10:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 9 @ 0.127 = 1.143 BTC [-]
Feb 06 20:10:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.128 = 1.28 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:10:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.689 = 6.89 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:10:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1297 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2670 @ 0.00068619 = 1.8321 BTC [-]
Feb 06 20:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00068149 = 6.7127 BTC [-]
Feb 06 20:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 780 @ 0.00067993 = 0.5303 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 20:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00068738 = 2.7839 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:23:58 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.60 gains momentum very slowly but shows big promise
Feb 06 20:25:06 <jurov>	Consider any or all of theymos is hit by a bus, the forum admin account is hacked, return addresses that were previously given are now compromised, the domain is seized or hacked and transferred, kalyhost is raided, mtgox decides to disappear with their money, etc. Who is the benefactor who can receive back the money; should the treasurers be able to conspire to spend to start a new forum, etc.
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Feb 06 20:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.msg1508788#msg1508788
Feb 06 20:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	im with him
Feb 06 20:29:07 <Ukto>	http://www.laurenjosephsociologist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Im-With-Stupid.jpg
Feb 06 20:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	mkay, i hope everyone who wanted btc in has had the sense to send it already,
Feb 06 20:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	cause i'll be off nao.
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Feb 06 20:30:23 <Ukto>	hm, i think I have like 0.1btc or someting i can send
Feb 06 20:30:25 <Ukto>	damn. :P
Feb 06 20:31:54 <topace_>	lol he'll be back
Feb 06 20:32:06 <topace_>	i hope :p lol
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Feb 06 20:32:24 <topace_>	someone just deposited 600BTC to havelock, im assuming for the offering, i might need to move some more in
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Feb 06 20:33:17 <danieldaniel>	Is S.DICE going up or down?
Feb 06 20:33:37 <pigeons>	yes
Feb 06 20:33:44 <dub>	no
Feb 06 20:33:44 <topace_>	what pigeons said
Feb 06 20:33:45 <dub>	wait
Feb 06 20:33:50 <jborkl>	No
Feb 06 20:33:54 <jborkl>	Maybe
Feb 06 20:33:56 <danieldaniel>	It's not a yes or no question…
Feb 06 20:34:04 <pigeons>	yes and no
Feb 06 20:34:05 <dub>	rtarded
Feb 06 20:34:23 <jborkl>	Oh wait yes
Feb 06 20:34:24 <danieldaniel>	dub: http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
Feb 06 20:34:28 <danieldaniel>	Calling someone retarded isn't nice.
Feb 06 20:34:40 <danieldaniel>	What if I were depressed and/or suicidal?
Feb 06 20:34:45 <danieldaniel>	Your insult could have tipped me over.
Feb 06 20:34:50 <danieldaniel>	How would you feel about that?
Feb 06 20:34:51 <dub>	hopefully you would kill yourself
Feb 06 20:34:52 <jborkl>	You are implying we care
Feb 06 20:34:57 <danieldaniel>	Realize that you made a mistake.
Feb 06 20:35:10 <pigeons>	faggot
Feb 06 20:35:12 <danieldaniel>	lol
Feb 06 20:35:17 <danieldaniel>	goddamnit pigeons
Feb 06 20:35:21 <danieldaniel>	I thought we were friends
Feb 06 20:35:26 <dub>	your death would certainly assist -otc with its retard problem
Feb 06 20:35:27 <danieldaniel>	you were supposed to back me on this
Feb 06 20:35:32 <jborkl>	Lol
Feb 06 20:35:37 <jborkl>	Lololol
Feb 06 20:35:41 <danieldaniel>	It's funny because I asked a legit question
Feb 06 20:35:45 <jurov>	i'm your friend, really
Feb 06 20:35:50 <danieldaniel>	And then this son-of-a-b**** called me a retard.
Feb 06 20:35:52 <danieldaniel>	</rant>
Feb 06 20:35:54 <jurov>	but only if you're bottom
Feb 06 20:36:00 <danieldaniel>	I'm 14 years old.
Feb 06 20:36:01 <jborkl>	Go back to otc
Feb 06 20:36:05 <danieldaniel>	Do you want to retract that comment jurov?
Feb 06 20:36:16 <jborkl>	I have you on ignore on that channel
Feb 06 20:36:18 <jurov>	i don't want to retract anything atm
Feb 06 20:36:23 <danieldaniel>	I was asking a legit question jborkl
Feb 06 20:36:26 <danieldaniel>	Seriously.
Feb 06 20:36:33 <pigeons>	no.
Feb 06 20:36:46 <pigeons>	danieldaniel: will btc/usd go up or down?
Feb 06 20:36:50 <danieldaniel>	pigeons: Up.
Feb 06 20:36:54 <Ukto>	topace_: nah, MP will be asleep
Feb 06 20:36:57 <Ukto>	for the next several hours
Feb 06 20:37:08 <Ukto>	did you still need him to process a deposit?
Feb 06 20:37:14 <topace_>	he was up for last nights
Feb 06 20:37:19 <topace_>	yea i got 1 more pending
Feb 06 20:37:22 <topace_>	sent it just as he was signing off
Feb 06 20:37:31 <Ukto>	yeah, i think he was going for the night
Feb 06 20:37:34 <Ukto>	thats why he said that
Feb 06 20:37:42 <danieldaniel>	Well, thanks assholes.
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Feb 06 20:37:55 <Bugpowder>	who was that/
Feb 06 20:38:04 <Ukto>	daniel. :P
Feb 06 20:38:10 <pigeons>	x2
Feb 06 20:38:11 <jurov>	wasn't i too harsh?
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Feb 06 20:38:28 <Ukto>	more like daniel^2
Feb 06 20:39:00 <Ukto>	offering is still an hour:20 away *yawns*
Feb 06 20:39:59 <jurov>	if you're bored you should switch weex to manual orders processing
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Feb 06 20:40:09 <Ukto>	:D
Feb 06 20:40:23 <Ukto>	nah, I dont wanna piss ppl off
Feb 06 20:40:24 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 06 20:40:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00068114 = 0.7833 BTC [-]
Feb 06 20:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4228 @ 0.00067993 = 2.8747 BTC [-]
Feb 06 20:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 966 @ 0.00067933 = 0.6562 BTC [-]
Feb 06 20:40:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1849 @ 0.00067933 = 1.2561 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 20:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 271 @ 0.00068738 = 0.1863 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068742 = 2.9703 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068742 = 2.9703 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:42:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3969 @ 0.00068743 = 2.7284 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:46:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3032 @ 0.00068743 = 2.0843 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 20:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0063 = 6.3 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:50:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:52:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4767 @ 0.00068743 = 3.277 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:53:53 <pigeons>	this is new http://bitcoinwireless.com/
Feb 06 20:54:25 <jurov>	but no eu country
Feb 06 20:56:52 <Namworld>	Are you around, mircea?
Feb 06 20:57:00 <Ukto>	no, he logged off for the night
Feb 06 20:57:02 <Ukto>	while
Feb 06 20:57:16 <Ukto>	[19:29] <mircea_popescu> mkay, i hope everyone who wanted btc in has had the sense to send it already,
Feb 06 20:57:16 <Ukto>	[19:29] <mircea_popescu> cause i'll be off nao.
Feb 06 20:57:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.0006878 = 4.4707 BTC [+]
Feb 06 20:57:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067959 = 2.9365 BTC [-]
Feb 06 20:57:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067956 = 2.9364 BTC [-]
Feb 06 20:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1501 @ 0.00067933 = 1.0197 BTC [-]
Feb 06 20:57:37 <Namworld>	Dammit
Feb 06 20:57:51 <Ukto>	yeah, I think topace_ is in the same spot
Feb 06 20:58:03 <jurov>	maybe i can help you funding if it isn't big sum
Feb 06 20:58:18 <jurov>	or if you already didn't send it
Feb 06 20:58:20 <Ukto>	if I wasnt investing my oown coins, I would offer a depositary service LOL
Feb 06 20:58:26 <Bugpowder>	I have coins
Feb 06 20:58:26 <Namworld>	50 BTC, didn't send yet
Feb 06 20:58:36 <Bugpowder>	if someone wants to borrow
Feb 06 20:58:40 <Bugpowder>	that I know
Feb 06 20:58:55 <jcpham>	yay free bitcoin loans
Feb 06 20:58:56 <Ukto>	Bugpowder: I wanna short, can I borrow? :D
Feb 06 20:58:57 <Bugpowder>	I can lend.
Feb 06 20:59:19 <Ukto>	that was a joke btw :/
Feb 06 20:59:40 <Namworld>	By the way, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141067.new%3btopicseen#new
Feb 06 20:59:47 <Namworld>	696 ASICMINER for auction
Feb 06 21:00:06 <Ukto>	roo rich for my blood
Feb 06 21:00:15 <jurov>	Namworld yes I can push you 50 CxBTC, in exchange for 50.1 BTC
Feb 06 21:00:27 <jurov>	sent normally
Feb 06 21:00:48 <Namworld>	=O         OH, you little thief...
Feb 06 21:00:53 <Namworld>	.1 BTC
Feb 06 21:01:02 <jurov>	that's my standard fee
Feb 06 21:01:07 <Ukto>	INAU -- imsa right?
Feb 06 21:01:11 <Namworld>	Alright.
Feb 06 21:01:21 <Namworld>	Honestly, that's very acceptable.
Feb 06 21:01:23 <Bugpowder>	50.1
Feb 06 21:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5208 @ 0.00067962 = 3.5395 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:01:24 <Bugpowder>	damn
Feb 06 21:01:29 <Bugpowder>	I would charge 52
Feb 06 21:01:43 <Namworld>	I think then it might not be worth it
Feb 06 21:01:49 <Ukto>	i'll see your 52, and charge 52.5
Feb 06 21:01:50 <Bugpowder>	exactly
Feb 06 21:01:56 <Bugpowder>	take the 50.1
Feb 06 21:02:21 <jurov>	:P
Feb 06 21:02:21 <Ukto>	INAU == imsa right?
Feb 06 21:02:34 <jcpham>	separate entities Ukto
Feb 06 21:02:34 <Namworld>	ok, PMing you jurov
Feb 06 21:02:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00067962 = 3.9758 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:02:40 <Ukto>	oh
Feb 06 21:02:40 <Ukto>	hm
Feb 06 21:02:44 <Ukto>	is INAU on irc?
Feb 06 21:02:45 <jcpham>	afaik
Feb 06 21:02:48 <jcpham>	sometimes
Feb 06 21:02:55 <jcpham>	back in the pirate ship days
Feb 06 21:02:56 <Ukto>	btw jcpham, di dyou get my pm ?
Feb 06 21:02:59 <jcpham>	not so much now
Feb 06 21:03:01 <Ukto>	about XRP ?
Feb 06 21:03:14 <jcpham>	i was reading but i had a busy day
Feb 06 21:03:19 <jcpham>	not sure i absorbed it
Feb 06 21:03:20 <Ukto>	the passwords off the site now
Feb 06 21:03:22 <Ukto>	pm
Feb 06 21:07:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2942 @ 0.00067962 = 1.9994 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068838 = 2.9745 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00068839 = 9.4654 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.0006887 = 0.4821 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:07:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4667 @ 0.00069132 = 3.2264 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00069276 = 6.408 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:07:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00069287 = 4.4344 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:07:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 457970 @ 0.0007 = 320.579 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:08:32 <jurov>	quite interesting mpoe movements here
Feb 06 21:09:03 <jurov>	if someone toppled it while mp is away
Feb 06 21:09:37 <jurov>	i should perhaps put some order at 0.00099 :P
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Feb 06 21:13:09 <Bugpowder>	wow
Feb 06 21:13:16 <Bugpowder>	457970
Feb 06 21:13:27 <Bugpowder>	I want to get in before it breaks thru 7
Feb 06 21:15:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067934 = 2.9354 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:15:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067959 = 2.9365 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:15:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20358 @ 0.00067933 = 13.8298 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:17:08 <jurov>	ok. fully prepped fro s.mpoe fat fingers
Feb 06 21:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5125 @ 0.00067933 = 3.4816 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:18:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067995 = 2.9381 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15679 @ 0.00068011 = 10.6634 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:18:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068005 = 2.9385 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:18:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9481 @ 0.00068011 = 6.4481 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:21:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.0007 = 0.0028 BTC
Feb 06 21:22:25 <Namworld>	Yo... like 0.0008% of MPEx volume
Feb 06 21:22:39 <Namworld>	>.>
Feb 06 21:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12458 @ 0.00069288 = 8.6319 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 21:26:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:26:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.686 = 6.86 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:27:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6899998 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:27:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6899998 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:28:21 <Namworld>	Havelock's SD is too damn high
Feb 06 21:30:14 <topace_>	lol
Feb 06 21:30:32 <topace_>	people are willing to pay the premium for the awesome site :)
Feb 06 21:30:43 <topace_>	i dont understnad why people are trading it now though at 0.68
Feb 06 21:30:48 <topace_>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 06 21:30:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.56500000 / 0.59379808 / 0.73000000 (1355 shares, 804.59639960 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.67576528 / 0.89000000 (4000 shares, 2703.06111565 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.6209016 / 0.89000000 (7451 shares, 4626.33783560 BTC)
Feb 06 21:31:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069997 = 3.0246 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1229 @ 0.00069999 = 0.8603 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:32:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1342 @ 0.00069288 = 0.9298 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:32:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4258 @ 0.00068768 = 2.9281 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:35:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.0007 BTC
Feb 06 21:37:42 <Bugpowder>	I don't understand why 400,000 shares of S.DICE sold @ .0065 a few hours ago
Feb 06 21:37:48 <Bugpowder>	the mysteries of MPEX
Feb 06 21:38:10 <Bugpowder>	oh hellow
Feb 06 21:38:21 <Bugpowder>	over 1000 BTC bot at 21.30
Feb 06 21:39:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63 @ 0.00068768 = 0.0433 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16787 @ 0.00068767 = 11.5439 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:42:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6383 @ 0.00069808 = 4.4558 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069784 = 3.0154 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2496 @ 0.00069999 = 1.7472 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 21:42:57 <topace_>	400000 shares at 0.0065?!
Feb 06 21:42:59 <topace_>	i ddint see that
Feb 06 21:43:01 <Bugpowder>	yep
Feb 06 21:43:08 <Bugpowder>	50,000 shares at a time
Feb 06 21:43:15 <Bugpowder>	325BTC each
Feb 06 21:43:40 <Bugpowder>	then someone else noticed at tried to sell 700k at 64000
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Feb 06 21:43:50 <Bugpowder>	but the buyer stopped buying :-P
Feb 06 21:44:07 <topace_>	huh
Feb 06 21:44:24 <topace_>	orderbook looks pretty slim so far
Feb 06 21:44:54 <Bugpowder>	I think bids at .0062 will get filled
Feb 06 21:45:30 <topace_>	yea, hasnt been that much deposited since yesterday
Feb 06 21:45:55 <Bugpowder>	there was 400k buy order left at .0055 though
Feb 06 21:45:55 <topace_>	though, the guy that sold 400000 at 0.65 is probably wanting to buy back at 0.62 :p
Feb 06 21:46:06 <Bugpowder>	I doubt it ;)
Feb 06 21:46:33 <topace_>	the 400k buy at 0.0055 from yesterday probably turned into that 0.0065 then a few hours ago
Feb 06 21:46:52 <Bugpowder>	wouldn't it be great to really know
Feb 06 21:49:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1453 @ 0.00069999 = 1.0171 BTC [+]
Feb 06 21:49:33 <topace_>	does erik have to list the SELL order manually at exactly 10pm? or is it timed?
Feb 06 21:49:38 <topace_>	figured he'd be here by now
Feb 06 21:50:56 <Bugpowder>	manual
Feb 06 21:51:03 <Namworld>	manual
Feb 06 21:51:51 <topace_>	i smell an avalon batch 2 launch.. no mp and no erik
Feb 06 21:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5050 @ 0.0062114 = 31.3676 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:52:10 <Bugpowder>	o
Feb 06 21:52:19 <Bugpowder>	a panic sell?
Feb 06 21:52:23 <topace_>	haha
Feb 06 21:54:30 <topace_>	not the hype that last night had either
Feb 06 21:56:14 <Ukto>	hes just logging in
Feb 06 21:56:51 <aiball>	anyone hear the NPR spot on s.dice?
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Feb 06 21:57:03 <Bugpowder>	hey yo
Feb 06 21:57:14 <evoorhees>	hey all
Feb 06 21:57:16 <Ukto>	see? there he is
Feb 06 21:57:23 <aiball>	got popcorn
Feb 06 21:57:24 <topace_>	heh just in the nick of time
Feb 06 21:57:47 <aiball>	nor spot about s.dice.  perhaps you can hold on for a bit?
Feb 06 21:57:55 <aiball>	npr
Feb 06 21:58:05 <Bugpowder>	I read it
Feb 06 21:58:09 <Bugpowder>	didn't listen
Feb 06 21:58:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.662 = 7.282 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:58:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.661 = 1.322 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:58:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.6606 = 7.2666 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:58:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.66001 = 4.6201 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:58:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.65001 = 6.5001 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:58:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.650001 = 4.55 BTC [-]
Feb 06 21:58:36 <Ukto>	LOL
Feb 06 21:58:39 <Bugpowder>	NPR doesn't really dig deep into any stories
Feb 06 21:58:41 <topace_>	haha lol
Feb 06 21:58:43 <topace_>	someone wanting to buy back
Feb 06 21:58:46 <Bugpowder>	except this american life
Feb 06 21:59:06 <assbot>	 imma gonna take a break now. cya later. bye.
Feb 06 21:59:10 <topace_>	lol
Feb 06 21:59:13 <Bugpowder>	noo
Feb 06 21:59:14 <jurov>	haha
Feb 06 21:59:19 <Bugpowder>	don't leave NOW assbot
Feb 06 21:59:37 <assbot>	 ok ok.
Feb 06 21:59:54 <assbot>	 you may go evoorhees
Feb 06 21:59:54 <swhitt>	here we go
Feb 06 21:59:55 <Ukto>	evoorhees ?
Feb 06 22:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 217713 @ 0.00621 = 1351.9977 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:00:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8070 @ 0.0062 = 50.034 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:00:12 <aiball>	kaboom
Feb 06 22:00:12 <TradeFortress>	assbot, who made you?
Feb 06 22:00:13 <Ukto>	thats it?
Feb 06 22:00:14 <Ukto>	just me?
Feb 06 22:00:17 <Bugpowder>	here come the bids
Feb 06 22:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 221602 @ 0.006195 = 1372.8244 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:00:21 <Ukto>	oh
Feb 06 22:00:22 <Ukto>	theres another
Feb 06 22:00:31 <Bugpowder>	oooo
Feb 06 22:00:36 <Bugpowder>	.006195?
Feb 06 22:00:42 <Bugpowder>	ha
Feb 06 22:00:47 <Bugpowder>	it wasn't evoorhees
Feb 06 22:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.0006899 = 2.0697 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 22:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168 @ 0.00068799 = 0.1156 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:00:55 <Namworld>	lol
Feb 06 22:01:02 <Bugpowder>	it was the 700k guy
Feb 06 22:01:06 <jurov>	252k left
Feb 06 22:01:20 <Bugpowder>	yep
Feb 06 22:01:24 <Bugpowder>	sneaky
Feb 06 22:01:41 <Namworld>	He cashed in the 0.0044 or 0.0055 probably
Feb 06 22:02:01 <Bugpowder>	1MM is up now
Feb 06 22:02:03 <Namworld>	probably not wanting to stick around at all =/
Feb 06 22:02:04 <evoorhees>	GO GO GO
Feb 06 22:02:07 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 06 22:02:11 <topace_>	lol
Feb 06 22:02:12 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 06 22:02:12 <topace_>	nobody to go
Feb 06 22:02:14 <Ukto>	its too late
Feb 06 22:02:17 <Bugpowder>	the bids got sold!
Feb 06 22:02:22 <Ukto>	someone beat you to it
Feb 06 22:02:23 <topace_>	havelock will go now
Feb 06 22:02:27 <Bugpowder>	flipped it
Feb 06 22:02:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.645 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.006195 = 6.195 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:31 <assbot>	 epic.
Feb 06 22:02:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.641 = 7.051 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 650 @ 0.64 = 416 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 100 @ 0.6361 = 63.61 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:35 <evoorhees>	oh lol really?
Feb 06 22:02:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 38 @ 0.636 = 24.168 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 300 @ 0.635 = 190.5 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.6311 = 31.555 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:37 <Ukto>	yeah
Feb 06 22:02:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 60 @ 0.631 = 37.86 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.63008 = 6.3008 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:39 <Bugpowder>	yah
Feb 06 22:02:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.63 = 28.35 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.63 = 6.3 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:02:46 *	Namworld hears a sound.... *crickets*
Feb 06 22:02:51 <Ukto>	1.25mil left
Feb 06 22:02:53 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 06 22:02:54 <Bugpowder>	400k earlier today
Feb 06 22:02:57 <Bugpowder>	700k now
Feb 06 22:03:07 <evoorhees>	lol
Feb 06 22:03:08 <Namworld>	Yeah, some dude put 700k ahead of you, like 1 minute before you =P
Feb 06 22:03:12 <Ukto>	he made a nice 50ish % profit
Feb 06 22:03:20 <Ukto>	well
Feb 06 22:03:20 <evoorhees>	hahaha
Feb 06 22:03:21 <Ukto>	he was on top
Feb 06 22:03:22 <Namworld>	Probably from your earlier 0.0044
Feb 06 22:03:24 <Ukto>	:on time
Feb 06 22:03:24 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 06 22:03:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 55 @ 0.63 = 34.65 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:03:33 <evoorhees>	hehe
Feb 06 22:03:35 <Bugpowder>	makes sense that the lower price buyers would just filp it up to whatever you were selling higher tranches at
Feb 06 22:03:38 <Ukto>	now yours will have to sit n wait
Feb 06 22:03:39 <evoorhees>	okay well enjoy the shares, they're there for ya
Feb 06 22:03:44 <evoorhees>	that's hilarious
Feb 06 22:03:50 <evoorhees>	after what happened last night
Feb 06 22:03:51 <Ukto>	yeah, I didnt see that one comming
Feb 06 22:03:51 <Namworld>	Don't worry, they'll get eaten up eventually
Feb 06 22:03:54 <evoorhees>	proof that markets are unpredictable
Feb 06 22:03:56 <Ukto>	yeah, give it a day
Feb 06 22:04:01 <Ukto>	nah
Feb 06 22:04:05 <Ukto>	i think its saturated
Feb 06 22:04:07 <Ukto>	too much too fast
Feb 06 22:04:09 <Ukto>	no recovery time
Feb 06 22:04:12 <Namworld>	once people flip the 44 & 55 ones
Feb 06 22:04:21 <AndroUser>	Yep
Feb 06 22:04:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.63 = 3.78 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:04:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.006195 = 4.3365 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:04:39 <Ukto>	most larger buyers can afford to keep buying nightly like this
Feb 06 22:04:45 <Ukto>	so far were the only ones that I know of
Feb 06 22:05:04 <Ukto>	we have been a constant whale for you :P
Feb 06 22:05:31 <Diablo-D3>	so
Feb 06 22:05:35 <Diablo-D3>	still no avalons
Feb 06 22:05:36 <Ukto>	and will buy another 25% tomorrow if you do it. LOL (might have to lower the price tho. hehe)
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Feb 06 22:06:00 <Namworld>	nah, more higher priced slices
Feb 06 22:06:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 325 @ 0.0062 = 2.015 BTC
Feb 06 22:08:27 <AndroUser>	Prolly not healthy to leave a fat stack of shares sitting too lobg at the upper end of current values
Feb 06 22:08:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 104 @ 0.62555 = 65.0572 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:08:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.62554 = 11.2597 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:08:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 80 @ 0.625 = 50 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:08:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.625 = 1.25 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:08:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.621 = 7.452 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:08:57 <topace_>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 06 22:08:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.60000000 / 0.63901567 / 0.73000000 (1755 shares, 1121.47249660 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.66435547 / 0.89000000 (5600 shares, 3720.39061265 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.62354075 / 0.89000000 (9051 shares, 5643.66733260 BTC)
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Feb 06 22:12:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.006195 = 9.2925 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 22:15:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4153 @ 0.00068799 = 2.8572 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6647 @ 0.00068767 = 4.5709 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:17:27 <grubles>	what is havelock
Feb 06 22:17:31 <grubles>	someone fill me in
Feb 06 22:17:34 <topace_>	https://www.havelockinvestments.com
Feb 06 22:17:34 <grubles>	i stupid
Feb 06 22:19:00 <grubles>	interesting
Feb 06 22:20:51 <Ukto>	hey grubles
Feb 06 22:21:04 <Ukto>	its similar service as BItFunder and btct
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Feb 06 22:21:12 <Ukto>	topace_: your registered as a business in Vermont arnt you ?
Feb 06 22:21:17 <topace_>	no?
Feb 06 22:21:22 <topace_>	ontario, canada
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Feb 06 22:21:30 <Ukto>	oh, thought i saw Vermont several places on the site
Feb 06 22:21:34 <topace_>	oh maybe KCIM
Feb 06 22:21:38 <Namworld>	I know of havelock through cavirtex
Feb 06 22:21:42 <Bugpowder>	is it top ace or to pace?
Feb 06 22:21:47 <topace_>	Ukto: from here: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=KCIM
Feb 06 22:21:57 <topace_>	top-ace
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Feb 06 22:22:17 <Ukto>	ah
Feb 06 22:22:19 <topace>	it used to be ]Top-Ace[ back from my BBS dayz
Feb 06 22:22:25 <Ukto>	bbs
Feb 06 22:22:26 <Ukto>	kik
Feb 06 22:22:27 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 06 22:22:28 <Bugpowder>	cheer up people ;;ticker
Feb 06 22:22:46 *	Ukto shows off his WildCat 5 Gold license
Feb 06 22:23:19 <assbot>	 ;;ticker
Feb 06 22:23:26 <Ukto>	;;ticker
Feb 06 22:23:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.25001, Best ask: 21.27000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 21.25000, 24 hour volume: 51391.32611986, 24 hour low: 20.70000, 24 hour high: 21.33390, 24 hour vwap: 21.13911
Feb 06 22:23:27 <Ukto>	-_-
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Feb 06 22:24:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.62 = 6.2 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:26:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.612 = 1.224 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:26:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.607 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:26:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:26:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:26:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:26:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 861 @ 0.00611994 = 5.2693 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:27:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 439 @ 0.0060539 = 2.6577 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 22:28:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 60 @ 0.62 = 37.2 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 22:29:03 <Bowjob_>	oops
Feb 06 22:29:06 <Bowjob_>	I mised the ipo
Feb 06 22:29:12 <Bowjob_>	far cry 3 was awesome
Feb 06 22:29:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:29:55 <topace>	Bowjob: must less anti-climactic
Feb 06 22:30:00 <swhitt>	any word when / how much the next tranche will be
Feb 06 22:30:02 <topace>	im just heading home now
Feb 06 22:30:07 <Bowjob_>	"2013-02-06 22:07:43	594/880	฿0.62000000	฿368.2800"
Feb 06 22:30:10 <Bowjob_>	Holy shit wtf
Feb 06 22:30:24 <Bowjob_>	is this the same guy who bought 900 shares?
Feb 06 22:30:34 <topace>	no thats left from the offering
Feb 06 22:30:42 <topace>	i bought about 220000 shares
Feb 06 22:30:56 <Ukto>	topace: ahh, then it was me and you hehe
Feb 06 22:31:03 <Ukto>	the only big whales tonight
Feb 06 22:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00068356 = 7.0065 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:31:08 <topace>	yea :)
Feb 06 22:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00068101 = 1.0556 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:31:10 <Bowjob_>	hang on... umm
Feb 06 22:31:14 <Bowjob_>	why is there 1 mil tranch
Feb 06 22:31:17 <Bowjob_>	still
Feb 06 22:31:21 <topace>	because someone dumped just before
Feb 06 22:31:22 <Ukto>	because somoone who bought in earlier
Feb 06 22:31:23 <Bugpowder>	it was MORE climatic
Feb 06 22:31:24 <Ukto>	dumped just before
Feb 06 22:31:26 <Bowjob_>	ah
Feb 06 22:31:33 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 06 22:31:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.25001, Best ask: 21.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 21.30000, 24 hour volume: 52096.28957983, 24 hour low: 20.70000, 24 hour high: 21.33390, 24 hour vwap: 21.14266
Feb 06 22:31:37 <Ukto>	they were smart.
Feb 06 22:31:44 <Ukto>	makes me wish I had done that
Feb 06 22:31:48 <topace>	yea. buy at 55, guaranteed sell at 62
Feb 06 22:31:52 <Ukto>	instead of throwing the shares @ /about price onto BF
Feb 06 22:31:52 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 06 22:31:54 <Ukto>	doubled up
Feb 06 22:32:08 <Bowjob_>	well, its kinda fail if the idea was to get investors feel good about their investment
Feb 06 22:32:20 <Bowjob_>	but i think erik's point was to hold the shares not dump right away
Feb 06 22:32:21 <Bowjob_>	lol
Feb 06 22:32:23 <Ukto>	doenst matter more shares are out
Feb 06 22:32:24 <Bowjob_>	its a valid move
Feb 06 22:32:32 <Ukto>	esp now
Feb 06 22:32:38 <Ukto>	I think we are close to 2mil
Feb 06 22:32:41 <Bowjob_>	how much was dumped?
Feb 06 22:33:01 <Ukto>	hm, 600k or so
Feb 06 22:33:07 <Bowjob_>	so someone bought 900 shares i saw
Feb 06 22:33:11 <Bowjob_>	at havelock
Feb 06 22:33:20 <Bugpowder>	700k
Feb 06 22:33:23 <Bowjob_>	well i saw the orderbook
Feb 06 22:33:29 <Bugpowder>	250k still sitting there
Feb 06 22:33:34 <Bugpowder>	also 400k earlier today
Feb 06 22:33:40 <Bugpowder>	at .0065
Feb 06 22:33:54 <Bugpowder>	the "Trade of the Day"
Feb 06 22:34:13 <topace>	Bowjob: one person bought ~1100 units actually (110,000 shares) - half of what i bought for havelock
Feb 06 22:34:33 <Bowjob_>	crazy
Feb 06 22:34:49 <Bowjob_>	im such a smalltime in comparison
Feb 06 22:34:49 <Bowjob_>	lol
Feb 06 22:35:00 <topace>	someone did a big deposit though a few hours ago, but never placed an order, i thought that was weird
Feb 06 22:35:10 <topace>	450 btc into havelock a few hours before the release
Feb 06 22:35:14 <topace>	figured for sure it was to buy
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Feb 06 22:35:23 <topace>	maybe they forgot, lol
Feb 06 22:35:27 <topace>	anyways i gotta get out of her
Feb 06 22:35:28 <topace>	here
Feb 06 22:35:33 <topace>	lol, and INTO her
Feb 06 22:35:42 <Bowjob_>	lol
Feb 06 22:35:59 <topace>	peace
Feb 06 22:36:04 <Bowjob_>	we now have whales at havelock
Feb 06 22:36:08 <Bowjob_>	at first i was the whale
Feb 06 22:36:10 <Bowjob_>	damn
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Feb 06 22:43:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.62 = 2.48 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 22:44:10 <Bowjob_>	ah shoulda sold at havelock before the massive dump
Feb 06 22:44:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.62 = 2.48 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 22:46:21 <Bowjob_>	oh whale, where is my little whale
Feb 06 22:47:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.62 = 9.92 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 22:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00068815 = 4.2665 BTC [+]
Feb 06 22:48:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00068101 = 3.0986 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 22:52:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.62 = 6.2 BTC [+]
Feb 06 22:52:40 <JohnGalt>	what's the name of the guy hunting moby dick? :p
Feb 06 22:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00068101 = 8.5807 BTC [-]
Feb 06 22:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069285 = 2.9938 BTC [+]
Feb 06 22:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10825 @ 0.00069314 = 7.5032 BTC [+]
Feb 06 22:56:08 <Bowjob_>	i think we should hunt whales
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Feb 06 23:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068125 = 2.9437 BTC [-]
Feb 06 23:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7971 @ 0.00068101 = 5.4283 BTC [-]
Feb 06 23:02:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:03:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2775 @ 0.00069314 = 1.9235 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00069509 = 1.703 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:03:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069998 = 3.0246 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2354 @ 0.00069999 = 1.6478 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 23:07:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.62 = 15.5 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:08:53 <dub>	not sure what is unpredictable about that
Feb 06 23:09:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.62 = 6.2 BTC [+]
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Feb 06 23:10:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.62 = 4.96 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1537 @ 0.00068508 = 1.053 BTC [-]
Feb 06 23:17:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.006 = 6 BTC [-]
Feb 06 23:18:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.62 = 10.54 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:20:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1516 @ 0.00068481 = 1.0382 BTC [-]
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Feb 06 23:22:32 <Bowjob>	no one bought the new tranch yet
Feb 06 23:23:53 <aiball>	is there another ipo coming soon on mpex? rumors or otherwise?
Feb 06 23:24:25 <Bowjob>	bitmillions looks like a good candidate
Feb 06 23:25:02 <aiball>	oh yeah - that was a blank screen for me.
Feb 06 23:25:34 <aiball>	otherwise I'll be playing I'm sure
Feb 06 23:29:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5 BTC [-]
Feb 06 23:30:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 22 @ 0.62 = 13.64 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:36:00 <Bowjob>	havelock is on fire
Feb 06 23:36:00 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 06 23:37:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0062 = 0.031 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4049 @ 0.00069865 = 2.8288 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2001 @ 0.00069463 = 1.39 BTC [-]
Feb 06 23:45:54 <ThickAsThieves>	Bitfunder is down?
Feb 06 23:46:17 <jcpham>	^Ukto is on it I believe
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Feb 06 23:47:04 <Ukto>	I am seeing some weirdness on routing
Feb 06 23:47:14 <Ukto>	somethings blocking ssl possibly
Feb 06 23:47:22 <Ukto>	and it looks upstream
Feb 06 23:48:09 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcointalk.org down again
Feb 06 23:48:16 <ThickAsThieves>	nevermind
Feb 06 23:48:18 <ThickAsThieves>	just slow
Feb 06 23:49:02 <aiball>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 06 23:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00603393 / 0.00632411 / 0.00677999 (948390 shares, 5,997.72 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00580179 / 0.007395 (3584084 shares, 20,794.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00529987 / 0.0075 (8670103 shares, 45,950.46 BTC)
Feb 06 23:51:48 <Ukto>	http is enabled for bitfunder for the now
Feb 06 23:52:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 725 @ 0.00069463 = 0.5036 BTC [-]
Feb 06 23:54:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069965 = 3.0232 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8735 @ 0.00069999 = 6.1144 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:57:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 12.12 BTC [-]
Feb 06 23:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3733 @ 0.00069999 = 2.6131 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3467 @ 0.0007 = 2.4269 BTC [+]
Feb 06 23:58:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.615 = 17.835 BTC [-]
Feb 07 00:00:05 <ThickAsThieves>	what does litecoinglobal use to dtermine SDICE values?
Feb 07 00:00:14 <Ukto>	demand
Feb 07 00:00:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.61999 = 11.7798 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:00:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 31 @ 0.61999 = 19.2197 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:01:01 <ThickAsThieves>	i see, they only needed to be converted from BTC/LTC on release
Feb 07 00:01:25 <Namworld>	litecoinglobal has 3 S.DICE total if you consider both the LTC and BTC websites
Feb 07 00:01:54 <Namworld>	Maybe that's a bit much
Feb 07 00:03:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 115 @ 0.62 = 71.3 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:03:31 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe, but it does give those that are aware of all the exchanges more angles
Feb 07 00:06:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.62 = 1.24 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4981 @ 0.0007 = 3.4867 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:06:34 <Namworld>	I need some LTC
Feb 07 00:07:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.62 = 4.96 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:14:06 <Bowjob>	I thought LTC was about to get killed
Feb 07 00:14:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069465 = 3.0016 BTC [-]
Feb 07 00:14:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6548 @ 0.00069463 = 4.5484 BTC [-]
Feb 07 00:14:38 <Namworld>	I need some LTC
Feb 07 00:14:48 *	Namworld reiterates
Feb 07 00:14:50 <Ukto>	start a new bond on ltc?
Feb 07 00:14:51 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 07 00:14:58 <Namworld>	No
Feb 07 00:15:02 <Ukto>	y not?
Feb 07 00:15:25 <Namworld>	why would I?
Feb 07 00:17:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 322 @ 0.62 = 199.64 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069986 = 3.0241 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:18:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11829 @ 0.0007 = 8.2803 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 00:30:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00069727 = 2.6496 BTC [-]
Feb 07 00:31:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.62 = 18.6 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:34:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5647 @ 0.00069727 = 3.9375 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 00:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5864 @ 0.0007 = 4.1048 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.0007 = 7.595 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.0007 = 2.73 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18122 @ 0.0007 = 12.6854 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9816 @ 0.0007 = 6.8712 BTC [+]
Feb 07 00:54:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1403 @ 0.00069727 = 0.9783 BTC [-]
Feb 07 00:54:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069491 = 3.0027 BTC [-]
Feb 07 00:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1918 @ 0.00069463 = 1.3323 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 01:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00069463 = 7.9188 BTC [-]
Feb 07 01:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00069994 = 2.8698 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 01:13:57 <Bowjob>	Christ.. that havelock is gone
Feb 07 01:14:01 <Bowjob>	the shares at havelock
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Feb 07 01:25:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [+]
Feb 07 01:26:53 <error4733>	hey bowjob
Feb 07 01:29:36 <error4733>	i said 6.5K for this week
Feb 07 01:29:44 <leotreasure>	bitcointalk down
Feb 07 01:30:00 <error4733>	no
Feb 07 01:31:10 <error4733>	Users Online 	357 Guests, 158 Users (16 Hidden)
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Feb 07 01:35:40 <error4733>	what happened that day ?
Feb 07 01:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00069463 = 0.0056 BTC [-]
Feb 07 01:37:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7872 @ 0.00069391 = 5.4625 BTC [-]
Feb 07 01:37:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4520 @ 0.00068613 = 3.1013 BTC [-]
Feb 07 01:42:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 480 @ 0.00068613 = 0.3293 BTC [-]
Feb 07 01:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9959 @ 0.00068612 = 6.8331 BTC [-]
Feb 07 01:42:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 961 @ 0.00068483 = 0.6581 BTC [-]
Feb 07 01:48:34 <Bowjob>	it was some leftover whale meat
Feb 07 01:49:12 <Bowjob>	right now its just some anchovies playing
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Feb 07 02:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3960 @ 0.00069112 = 2.7368 BTC [+]
Feb 07 02:08:20 <Namworld>	https://btct.co/security/S.DICE-PT
Feb 07 02:08:43 <Namworld>	For as long as the wall is there, 0.0061 per S.DICE on BTCT.co
Feb 07 02:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8127 @ 0.00069478 = 5.6465 BTC [+]
Feb 07 02:09:10 <Namworld>	Should I publish MPEx receipts along that?
Feb 07 02:09:28 <Namworld>	I don't see other pass-throughs doing that.
Feb 07 02:18:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5723 @ 0.00069478 = 3.9762 BTC [+]
Feb 07 02:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2756 @ 0.00069999 = 1.9292 BTC [+]
Feb 07 02:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 221 @ 0.00069998 = 0.1547 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:19:34 <Bowjob>	mhm, another pass thru?
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Feb 07 02:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1649 @ 0.00069999 = 1.1543 BTC [+]
Feb 07 02:26:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00069999 = 5.2499 BTC [+]
Feb 07 02:30:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40 @ 0.00069351 = 0.0277 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:30:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068613 = 3.4307 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:30:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068549 = 2.962 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:30:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2449 @ 0.00068548 = 1.6787 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:30:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4039 @ 0.00068483 = 2.766 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:30:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7217 @ 0.00068481 = 4.9423 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2834 @ 0.00068102 = 1.93 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:31:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.006195 = 17.9655 BTC [+]
Feb 07 02:31:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.0601 = 0.3005 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:32:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.06 = 0.24 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069993 = 3.0244 BTC [+]
Feb 07 02:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3717 @ 0.00069999 = 2.6019 BTC [+]
Feb 07 02:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2412 @ 0.0007 = 1.6884 BTC [+]
Feb 07 02:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.0007 = 4.165 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 02:50:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068133 = 2.944 BTC [-]
Feb 07 02:50:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7229 @ 0.00068102 = 4.9231 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 02:53:39 <Namworld>	Bowjob: whay, another?
Feb 07 02:53:49 <Namworld>	It's called competition
Feb 07 02:53:57 <Namworld>	what*
Feb 07 02:55:18 <Bowjob>	whats different from your pt?
Feb 07 02:56:52 <Namworld>	Nothing, almost. But I wanted to open 1 pass-through per MPEx stock
Feb 07 02:58:23 <Bowjob>	iim surprised thers no s,mpoe pt yet
Feb 07 03:02:39 <Namworld>	There is
Feb 07 03:02:57 <Namworld>	https://btct.co/security/S.MPOE-PT
Feb 07 03:03:29 <Namworld>	As I said, opened a PT for each MPEx stock
Feb 07 03:05:51 <truffles>	hi bowjob
Feb 07 03:05:59 <Bowjob>	sup
Feb 07 03:06:16 <truffles>	hows the hawking doing
Feb 07 03:06:37 <truffles>	going*
Feb 07 03:06:50 <Bowjob>	good. i was too scared to crash havelock earlier
Feb 07 03:07:00 <Bowjob>	i didnt expect 1000 shares to get sold right away
Feb 07 03:07:27 <truffles>	assuming i know what ure talking about
Feb 07 03:07:35 <truffles>	why would 1k crash it
Feb 07 03:07:36 <Bowjob>	the dice shares
Feb 07 03:07:52 <Namworld>	Why is bitfunder down?
Feb 07 03:07:59 <Bowjob>	no, before james landed the shares, i coulda sold my shares, then buy back cheaper
Feb 07 03:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2380 @ 0.00069927 = 1.6643 BTC [+]
Feb 07 03:08:06 <Namworld>	Ukto
Feb 07 03:08:58 <Bowjob>	im not realy a hawk now, im an owl
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Feb 07 03:09:38 <Bowjob>	hawking would be someone who will strike at an opportune moment, im just sitting this one out.
Feb 07 03:09:49 <truffles>	im sitting them all out heh
Feb 07 03:09:52 <Bowjob>	hopefully the market wont be saturated with 3 more million shares.
Feb 07 03:10:34 <Bowjob>	part of the 0.007xx price was the scarcity of those shares.. but the supply increased 50 percent
Feb 07 03:10:44 <truffles>	how many shares total in havelock?
Feb 07 03:11:16 <Bowjob>	7816 x100
Feb 07 03:12:21 <Bowjob>	it sucks for me since i bought at 0.78
Feb 07 03:12:21 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 07 03:12:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00068166 = 1.7723 BTC [-]
Feb 07 03:12:39 <truffles>	someones gotta lose
Feb 07 03:13:08 <Namworld>	Well not necessarily
Feb 07 03:13:51 <Namworld>	The whole point is to have shares which give dividends over a long period.
Feb 07 03:14:05 <truffles>	oh this video is pretty informative
Feb 07 03:14:31 <truffles>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnmbKPh6qqs&feature=player_embedded "invest in bitcoin mining..."
Feb 07 03:15:01 <Namworld>	Ideally a company stick around long enough that dividends goes over the share price multiple times over it's lifetime. Otherwise it's not really a great investment
Feb 07 03:15:16 <truffles>	jcpham should use this video as a model!
Feb 07 03:15:19 <Bowjob>	nam, do you see s.dice doing that?
Feb 07 03:15:22 <truffles>	just put some charts and talk over it
Feb 07 03:15:41 <Bowjob>	even with price appreciation
Feb 07 03:15:46 <Bowjob>	of btc/usd?
Feb 07 03:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3616 @ 0.00068166 = 2.4649 BTC [-]
Feb 07 03:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 994 @ 0.00068102 = 0.6769 BTC [-]
Feb 07 03:17:52 <Namworld>	I think it can, so long as Evoorhees doesn't flee.
Feb 07 03:18:44 <Namworld>	Gambling operations once they have reputation and a client base, usually get constant business.
Feb 07 03:19:11 <Namworld>	The issues that can arise is regulations.
Feb 07 03:19:16 <truffles>	no its cuz they have infinite gamblers
Feb 07 03:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8943 @ 0.00068102 = 6.0904 BTC [-]
Feb 07 03:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3557 @ 0.00068101 = 2.4224 BTC [-]
Feb 07 03:22:02 <Ukto>	Namworld
Feb 07 03:22:04 <Ukto>	It's not
Feb 07 03:22:18 <Ukto>	access via some provider via https is blocked
Feb 07 03:22:21 <Ukto>	for some unknown reason
Feb 07 03:22:27 <Ukto>	it works fine for some people
Feb 07 03:22:44 <Ukto>	http://bitfunder.com works just fine
Feb 07 03:22:47 <Ukto>	for everyone
Feb 07 03:23:29 <kakobrekla>	this has prolly been already posted here too, but i havent read it till now - OMG - http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/For-40-Years-This-Russian-Family-Was-Cut-Off-From-Human-Contact-Unaware-of-World-War-II-188843001.html
Feb 07 03:23:30 <Ukto>	I have been on the phone with each uplink provider, and they verify that HTTPS is responding OK.
Feb 07 03:23:58 <Bowjob>	mp posted that link couple days ago
Feb 07 03:33:22 <kakobrekla>	yeah its been all over the place
Feb 07 03:33:35 <kakobrekla>	just havent had the time to read beyond the title
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Feb 07 03:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 898 @ 0.00068103 = 0.6116 BTC [+]
Feb 07 03:42:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6002 @ 0.00068102 = 4.0875 BTC [-]
Feb 07 03:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 134 @ 0.00619408 = 0.83 BTC [-]
Feb 07 03:45:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006845 = 2.9577 BTC [+]
Feb 07 03:45:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2794 @ 0.00068481 = 1.9134 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 03:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 876 @ 0.00606924 = 5.3167 BTC [-]
Feb 07 03:52:41 <truffles>	windows has been a torn in my side, wanna switch to linux how is it if u have already?
Feb 07 03:53:20 <awkorama_>	truffles: I use linux (almost) exclusively both at work and at home, what specifically would you like to know ?
Feb 07 03:54:26 <truffles>	how simple is it
Feb 07 03:54:41 <truffles>	do u type in code all the type to do stuff
Feb 07 03:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.0006811 = 2.9287 BTC [-]
Feb 07 03:54:54 <awkorama_>	what applications do you need to run ?
Feb 07 03:55:08 <truffles>	most things optional
Feb 07 03:55:17 <truffles>	firefox?
Feb 07 03:55:39 <truffles>	and vlc
Feb 07 03:56:53 <truffles>	and trying to fix this .dll error forever now
Feb 07 03:59:21 <awkorama_>	firefox and vlc should be no problem
Feb 07 03:59:31 <awkorama_>	no need for typing in code
Feb 07 04:00:30 <truffles>	yea im gonna switch over next month once and for all!
Feb 07 04:00:47 <awkorama_>	i personally recommend linux mint to do the switch
Feb 07 04:01:42 <truffles>	adobe and java have caused me so many crashes
Feb 07 04:02:12 <truffles>	ubuntu 1st then progress back to mint
Feb 07 04:03:20 <truffles>	is there any fees?
Feb 07 04:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.0006811 = 0.0143 BTC [-]
Feb 07 04:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.00068102 = 2.5736 BTC [-]
Feb 07 04:05:31 <awkorama_>	no fees
Feb 07 04:06:40 <truffles>	can u store bitcoins on ur desktop?
Feb 07 04:07:41 <awkorama_>	you mean the wallet ?
Feb 07 04:07:50 <truffles>	i guess?
Feb 07 04:08:06 <awkorama_>	yes
Feb 07 04:08:28 <truffles>	im pretty poor so i dont have much to worry abo ut
Feb 07 04:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068467 = 2.9585 BTC [+]
Feb 07 04:11:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1979 @ 0.00068481 = 1.3552 BTC [+]
Feb 07 04:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2738 @ 0.00068481 = 1.875 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 04:16:14 <Bowjob>	i was bored, i looked at satoshi's old posts
Feb 07 04:16:29 <Bowjob>	they gave away 5 btc at the faucet..! holy shit
Feb 07 04:21:16 <truffles>	whats that
Feb 07 04:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6039 @ 0.00068481 = 4.1356 BTC [+]
Feb 07 04:23:35 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 07 04:23:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 311 @ 0.00068567 = 0.2132 BTC [+]
Feb 07 04:23:53 <truffles>	free money pipeline ok..
Feb 07 04:24:33 <dub>	wtf is up with gox
Feb 07 04:24:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 15 @ 0.01 = 0.15 BTC [-]
Feb 07 04:25:14 <dub>	shitloads of tiny trades
Feb 07 04:26:06 <truffles>	everyone isnt loaded sir
Feb 07 04:26:11 <dub>	[04:23] <bitcoinRT> Feb07 09:23:39 mtgox   x82     0.0033 @    21.32944001 USD
Feb 07 04:26:14 <dub>	[04:24] <bitcoinRT> Feb07 09:23:57 mtgox   x39     0.0006 @    21.33154118 USD
Feb 07 04:28:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.0007 = 0.035 BTC
Feb 07 04:29:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.0007 = 0.014 BTC
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Feb 07 04:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	goood mornin
Feb 07 04:31:46 <truffles>	hello
Feb 07 04:32:50 <Ukto>	morning MP
Feb 07 04:33:05 <Namworld>	Hello
Feb 07 04:33:54 <Namworld>	Note to all: I just added MPEx receipt link on the MPEx pass-through contract page on BTCT.co
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Feb 07 04:34:02 <Namworld>	I will make sure to keep it updated.
Feb 07 04:35:56 <mircea_popescu>	that's a good idea.
Feb 07 04:36:14 <mircea_popescu>	hm, so s.dice got privately dumped ?
Feb 07 04:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dic
Feb 07 04:36:18 <assbot>	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
Feb 07 04:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 07 04:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0060539 / 0.00632396 / 0.00677999 (950650 shares, 6,011.88 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00579402 / 0.007395 (3557832 shares, 20,614.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00530377 / 0.0075 (8622100 shares, 45,729.70 BTC)
Feb 07 04:36:33 <Namworld>	Someone dropped 700k just before evoorhees
Feb 07 04:36:40 <Namworld>	or something like that
Feb 07 04:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol evil
Feb 07 04:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	whoddunit
Feb 07 04:36:56 <Namworld>	Who knows
Feb 07 04:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	i always miss all the drama
Feb 07 04:37:13 <mircea_popescu>	unfair.
Feb 07 04:37:26 <truffles>	not true u re the drama
Feb 07 04:37:44 <mircea_popescu>	kinda why i keep missing it i guess
Feb 07 04:37:48 <mircea_popescu>	happens right behind me
Feb 07 04:37:56 <Namworld>	It of course ate all the bids
Feb 07 04:38:01 <Namworld>	and there was a bit left
Feb 07 04:38:15 <Namworld>	no doubt someone cashing out one of the earlier slice
Feb 07 04:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	prolly
Feb 07 04:38:32 <Namworld>	Probably someone not interested in holding S.DICE long term.
Feb 07 04:38:47 <Namworld>	That is only speculation tho
Feb 07 04:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they figure they buy it back later
Feb 07 04:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	or maybesomeone trying to short it
Feb 07 04:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	was erik pisse ?
Feb 07 04:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	d*
Feb 07 04:41:11 <Namworld>	not really
Feb 07 04:41:25 <Namworld>	He was more like oh well
Feb 07 04:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	i was thinking yest
Feb 07 04:41:37 <Namworld>	and the slice will stay there of course
Feb 07 04:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	in finance the advantage of announcing and the disadvantage of announcing are kinda hard to balance
Feb 07 04:42:01 <Namworld>	He found it amusing with yesterday selling so fast and today, far less.
Feb 07 04:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	he was all "o happy days" yest after 2nd tranche, i was thinking hm, i wonder if he gets introduced to the disadvantage side too
Feb 07 04:42:13 <Namworld>	Even not at all
Feb 07 04:43:26 <truffles>	i have .0002 btc yay
Feb 07 04:43:49 <Namworld>	okay =/
Feb 07 04:43:54 <truffles>	gonna rub em on my terts woooo lol
Feb 07 04:44:01 <Namworld>	We have someone really happy right there
Feb 07 04:44:23 <truffles>	there is this utube of this guy doing that..
Feb 07 04:44:33 <truffles>	not with bitcoins
Feb 07 04:44:36 <truffles>	ldo
Feb 07 04:46:16 <truffles>	namworld what did u have for breakfast today?
Feb 07 04:47:20 <Namworld>	It's 4:47 am =/
Feb 07 04:47:30 <Namworld>	I haven't had breakfast
Feb 07 04:47:43 <truffles>	pretty close, whats on the menu
Feb 07 04:48:14 <kakobrekla>	10k btc pizza.
Feb 07 04:48:25 <Namworld>	Sleep, till 12 to 1 PM
Feb 07 04:48:40 <truffles>	but u gotta eat !
Feb 07 04:48:49 <truffles>	too much pizza is bad umk
Feb 07 04:48:54 <kakobrekla>	truffles, maybe you should start in #bitcoin
Feb 07 04:49:07 <Namworld>	I'm used to the evening working schedule, starting work at 2-3 PM
Feb 07 04:49:29 <truffles>	i have no schedule..
Feb 07 04:49:39 <truffles>	kakokrekla what do u mean
Feb 07 04:50:32 <Namworld>	I eat a hearty breakfast some people won't call a breakfast... diner and breakfast are best switched around.
Feb 07 04:50:45 <mircea_popescu>	he means that this isn't really a socialising venue, unless you're a big time btc corp guy and we know you.
Feb 07 04:51:02 <truffles>	pffff
Feb 07 04:51:17 <mircea_popescu>	that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Feb 07 04:51:20 <Bowjob>	that dice dump
Feb 07 04:51:26 <Bowjob>	i admit that was a brilliant move
Feb 07 04:51:42 <Bowjob>	I could make the 25btc back in one trade with that. looks like i missed the train
Feb 07 04:51:57 <truffles>	nerds have nothing to say for long periods of time, dont worry kakobrekla
Feb 07 04:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob well it was what, 1-2k btc's worth ?
Feb 07 04:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	of coruse 25btc is a rounding error then
Feb 07 04:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068106 = 2.9429 BTC [-]
Feb 07 04:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5483 @ 0.00068102 = 3.734 BTC [-]
Feb 07 04:52:44 <Bowjob>	huh. i buy at 0,55 do a strategic dump
Feb 07 04:52:51 <Bowjob>	just below erik
Feb 07 04:53:19 <Bowjob>	i was busy playing farcry 3 so i missed the action
Feb 07 04:53:44 <Bowjob>	well, havelock got around 200k shares
Feb 07 04:53:47 <Bowjob>	^
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Feb 07 04:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	i like how mpoe is like... 67..70..69...68...69...70...69...68..67 etc
Feb 07 04:56:04 <truffles>	kakobrekla none is talking in #bitcoin, are you happy !
Feb 07 04:56:29 <kakobrekla>	truffles -otc then.
Feb 07 04:56:44 <truffles>	?
Feb 07 04:56:44 <Bowjob>	hey guys i've been wondering,, supose we turn out be millionaires due to bitcoin
Feb 07 04:56:56 <Bowjob>	how would you report it to government
Feb 07 04:57:07 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: oh, I wouldnt, I'd just buy a congress member to make it go away
Feb 07 04:57:09 <Bowjob>	and would they believe your story,
Feb 07 04:57:11 <Diablo-D3>	its cheaper
Feb 07 04:57:35 <Bowjob>	unfortunately im in canada.. i dont think our government is as corrupt
Feb 07 04:57:43 <Bowjob>	tho im sure there could be shills here and there
Feb 07 04:57:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 14 @ 0.0007 = 0.0098 BTC
Feb 07 04:58:05 <truffles>	its just playmoney though
Feb 07 04:58:11 <Bowjob>	i checked. suppose my income was 3 mil. i'd be left with 1.5 mil after taxes
Feb 07 04:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4736 @ 0.00068102 = 3.2253 BTC [-]
Feb 07 04:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6314 @ 0.00068101 = 4.2999 BTC [-]
Feb 07 04:58:25 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: thats still not bad
Feb 07 04:58:31 <Bowjob>	umm
Feb 07 04:58:32 <Bowjob>	yes it is
Feb 07 04:58:38 <Bowjob>	thats just 1 house in vancouver
Feb 07 04:58:40 <Diablo-D3>	how so? you have enough money to live the rest of your life.
Feb 07 04:58:43 <Bowjob>	no.
Feb 07 04:58:48 <Bowjob>	not in van
Feb 07 04:58:56 <Diablo-D3>	then move out of vancouver?
Feb 07 04:59:05 <Diablo-D3>	sounds like a shithole anyhow if a house costs 1.5 m
Feb 07 04:59:06 <Bowjob>	too comfy here, i like the restaurants
Feb 07 04:59:24 <Diablo-D3>	learn to cook, asshole
Feb 07 04:59:26 <truffles>	in vancouver
Feb 07 04:59:33 <truffles>	what kind of resturants
Feb 07 04:59:57 <Bowjob>	its multicultural, but we have some really great restaurants.
Feb 07 05:00:04 <Bowjob>	I prefer japanese cuisine..
Feb 07 05:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	<Bowjob> how would you report it to government << you mean the ones who aren't millionaires already ?
Feb 07 05:00:41 <truffles>	other channel was discussing the merits of thai food couple days ago
Feb 07 05:00:47 <truffles>	maybe consider thailand
Feb 07 05:00:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 14 @ 0.0007 = 0.0098 BTC
Feb 07 05:00:50 <Bowjob>	mp, i meant. suppose we turn out to be millionairs and wanted to cash out
Feb 07 05:01:09 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 07 05:01:13 <Bowjob>	cashing out from BTC to cad is such a pain in the ass, im just sitting this one out
Feb 07 05:01:14 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 07 05:01:19 <mircea_popescu>	it is ?
Feb 07 05:01:22 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 07 05:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	so you go to yurp, or russia, or saudi arabia, or india
Feb 07 05:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	set up a company, cash out there.
Feb 07 05:01:50 <truffles>	saudi arabia sounds fun
Feb 07 05:01:52 <Bowjob>	then when i go back to canada?
Feb 07 05:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	you go back as a wealthy saudi businessman
Feb 07 05:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068404 = 2.9557 BTC [+]
Feb 07 05:02:11 <mircea_popescu>	what's the problem ?
Feb 07 05:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3956 @ 0.00068421 = 2.7067 BTC [+]
Feb 07 05:02:33 <Bowjob>	wealthy saudi businessman... mhm
Feb 07 05:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	i srsly don't see the problem ?
Feb 07 05:03:34 <truffles>	its that easy to set up a business in a new country hmm
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Feb 07 05:08:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0061 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 05:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3268 @ 0.00068421 = 2.236 BTC [+]
Feb 07 05:12:33 <Namworld>	Use localbitcoins, bowjob
Feb 07 05:12:52 <Namworld>	Every now and then someone will want bitcoins
Feb 07 05:12:55 <Bowjob>	ive actually dunnit once
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Feb 07 05:13:25 <Namworld>	get people to come ring at your door and hand you some cash
Feb 07 05:13:56 <Bowjob>	when btcc were 13 dollars each i sold 100 dollars worth to test it out
Feb 07 05:14:10 <Namworld>	With a bit of chance, if you do it enough, neighbors will start to think you're a dealer.
Feb 07 05:14:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 164 @ 0.0061 = 1.0004 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:14:12 <Bowjob>	to my excitement, i fucked up and released the btcs without getting the monies first
Feb 07 05:14:21 <Bowjob>	he/she sent me an emt anyways
Feb 07 05:15:39 <truffles>	that was nice of them
Feb 07 05:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 148 @ 0.00606924 = 0.8982 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:22:28 <Namworld>	honest of them*
Feb 07 05:22:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0059 = 0.0295 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:23:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0061 = 0.0305 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:23:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068105 = 2.9428 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:23:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51473 @ 0.00068101 = 35.0536 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 05:25:11 <Namworld>	Did someone just switch O.o
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Feb 07 05:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld lmao that will get you busted for dealing dope in about two weeks
Feb 07 05:25:34 <Namworld>	yeah, sadly it's a rare occurance.
Feb 07 05:25:48 <Namworld>	If there was more buyers and I had many weekly, maybe
Feb 07 05:25:58 <Namworld>	[05:22] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0059 = 0.0295 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:25:58 <Namworld>	[05:23] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0061 = 0.0305 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:26:06 <Namworld>	So yeah, did someone just switch o.O
Feb 07 05:26:20 <Bowjob>	busted?
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Feb 07 05:26:42 <Namworld>	I mean, at a loss. I don't really see the point.
Feb 07 05:26:56 <Namworld>	DeaDTerra has a great track record.
Feb 07 05:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h s.dice
Feb 07 05:28:07 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Feb 07 05:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 07 05:28:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.60000000 / 0.63333601 / 0.70000000 (2485 shares, 1573.83999660 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.65982067 / 0.89000000 (6149 shares, 4057.23727865 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.6233377 / 0.89000000 (9813 shares, 6116.81283260 BTC)
Feb 07 05:28:41 <Namworld>	If one is cheaper to buy at a certain moment, I can understand getting a bit of the two or selecting a prefered broker
Feb 07 05:29:25 <EskimoBob>	invite to your house?
Feb 07 05:29:53 <Namworld>	?
Feb 07 05:31:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00068101 = 5.2097 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:34:12 <Bowjob>	has anyone done any busking for bitcoins before?
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Feb 07 05:40:02 <Namworld>	Not that I know of
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Feb 07 05:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12406 @ 0.00068101 = 8.4486 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:50:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.649 = 6.49 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:51:42 <Bowjob>	2013-02-07 02:28:05	715/715	฿0.60000000	฿429.0000
Feb 07 05:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ?
Feb 07 05:52:28 <Bowjob>	715 bid at havelock
Feb 07 05:52:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 05:53:42 <mircea_popescu>	a, nice
Feb 07 05:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00068101 = 5.1757 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:56:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [-]
Feb 07 05:58:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0061 = 0.0488 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 05:59:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 44 @ 0.0062 = 0.2728 BTC [+]
Feb 07 06:00:27 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 07 06:00:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.20000, Best ask: 21.26998, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 21.26998, 24 hour volume: 43201.89165334, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 21.18182
Feb 07 06:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 694 @ 0.00606009 = 4.2057 BTC [-]
Feb 07 06:01:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.006 = 0.3 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 06:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2498 @ 0.00068421 = 1.7092 BTC [+]
Feb 07 06:09:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5025 @ 0.00068504 = 3.4423 BTC [+]
Feb 07 06:09:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3277 @ 0.00068566 = 2.2469 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 06:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1913 @ 0.00068101 = 1.3028 BTC [-]
Feb 07 06:23:18 <gesell>	s.dice spreadsheet moved?
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Feb 07 06:23:35 <gesell>	aaah, just the token changes (so yeah, new file)
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Feb 07 06:44:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [-]
Feb 07 06:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00068103 = 7.5254 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 06:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6513 @ 0.00068103 = 4.4355 BTC [+]
Feb 07 06:54:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00068103 = 6.0612 BTC [+]
Feb 07 06:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00068103 = 6.5038 BTC [+]
Feb 07 07:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00590933 = 2.9547 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:02:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 995 @ 0.0059 = 5.8705 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:02:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0059 = 0.295 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:02:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0058 = 5.8 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:02:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 955 @ 0.0058 = 5.539 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:12:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00068103 = 6.1633 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 07:24:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.0007 = 0.021 BTC
Feb 07 07:25:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00068141 = 2.8279 BTC [+]
Feb 07 07:25:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1044 @ 0.00068305 = 0.7131 BTC [+]
Feb 07 07:25:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4306 @ 0.00068306 = 2.9413 BTC [+]
Feb 07 07:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068106 = 2.9429 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:27:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3129 @ 0.00068103 = 2.1309 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 07:33:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00068103 = 11.4413 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:37:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.63 = 6.3 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:38:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0061 = 0.305 BTC [+]
Feb 07 07:40:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1250 @ 0.0062 = 7.75 BTC [+]
Feb 07 07:42:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.63 = 1.89 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:45:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 07:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10008 @ 0.00068103 = 6.8157 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17863 @ 0.00068102 = 12.1651 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.0011001 = 1.1001 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0011 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.001001 = 5.005 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:56:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [-]
Feb 07 07:58:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 494 @ 0.00068306 = 0.3374 BTC [+]
Feb 07 07:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3653 @ 0.00068333 = 2.4962 BTC [+]
Feb 07 07:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1353 @ 0.00068442 = 0.926 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 08:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00083001 = 8.3001 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 08:03:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1387 BTC [+]
Feb 07 08:06:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1500 @ 0.0003 = 0.45 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:08:32 <truffles>	bet kakokbrekla is happy now
Feb 07 08:12:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.349 = 0.698 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:19:27 <jurov>	i don't think these were original bbet IPO shares
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Feb 07 08:20:39 <Ukto>	https fixe
Feb 07 08:20:40 <Ukto>	d
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Feb 07 08:26:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 340 @ 0.00590933 = 2.0092 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 08:28:13 <Diablo-D3>	Im still fucking pissed off
Feb 07 08:28:49 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if anyone has avalons they dont want
Feb 07 08:28:53 <Diablo-D3>	from batch 1
Feb 07 08:29:02 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 07 08:29:12 <Bugpowder>	lots of people
Feb 07 08:29:15 *	jurov looks to cellar
Feb 07 08:29:17 <Bugpowder>	in about 6 months
Feb 07 08:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00068102 = 13.995 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:29:23 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: heh
Feb 07 08:29:23 <Bugpowder>	will have some they don't want anymore
Feb 07 08:29:32 <Diablo-D3>	I guess I could pick them up cheap then =/
Feb 07 08:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2127 @ 0.00068233 = 1.4513 BTC [+]
Feb 07 08:29:58 <Diablo-D3>	this pisses me off
Feb 07 08:30:03 <pigeons>	yeah i plan to pick some up when buyers' credit card bills come in
Feb 07 08:30:06 <Diablo-D3>	I have the fucking money, why do they refuse to do business
Feb 07 08:33:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5805 @ 0.00068443 = 3.9731 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 08:43:02 <DeadWeasel>	I just sat in #bitcon-assets for 5 minutes.  it was quiet in there... :/
Feb 07 08:43:27 <DeadWeasel>	then I was in bicoin-assets for 2 minutes.  i should probably setup my config.
Feb 07 08:43:56 <jurov>	lol, is there so many people like here?
Feb 07 08:44:07 <jurov>	or you don't see the list by default?
Feb 07 08:45:28 <Bugpowder>	is bitcon assets for the scam offerings?
Feb 07 08:45:37 <Bugpowder>	seems like it should be packed
Feb 07 08:46:24 <jurov>	then it definitely wouldn't be quiet there when someone new arrives :D
Feb 07 08:46:43 <truffles>	seems like the snobby crowd hangs here
Feb 07 08:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00068438 = 3.6957 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:48:06 <jurov>	truffles: didn't we earn the right to be a bit smug?
Feb 07 08:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00068438 = 2.5664 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:48:22 <truffles>	if u think so
Feb 07 08:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 48 @ 0.00590933 = 0.2836 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:48:53 <Bugpowder>	I EARNED IT.
Feb 07 08:48:55 <Bugpowder>	http://imgur.com/a/EsExY
Feb 07 08:49:02 <Bugpowder>	:-P
Feb 07 08:49:22 <jurov>	^ DeadWeasel that's the curves i mentioned yest
Feb 07 08:50:06 <DeadWeasel>	thx
Feb 07 08:51:55 <Bowjob>	BTC shooting up to the moon?
Feb 07 08:52:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 656 @ 0.00068438 = 0.449 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:52:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11587 @ 0.00068102 = 7.891 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:52:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4188 @ 0.0006809 = 2.8516 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119 @ 0.00068072 = 0.081 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:54:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 6 @ 0.06 = 0.36 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:54:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1581 @ 0.00068072 = 1.0762 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:54:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10169 @ 0.00068062 = 6.9212 BTC [-]
Feb 07 08:54:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 09:00:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00068062 = 1.6335 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:01:54 <jurov>	Bowjob not yet, why?
Feb 07 09:02:41 <Bowjob>	just a feeling. I saw 21.63 flash on gox
Feb 07 09:03:03 <Bowjob>	i hope it doesnt shoot up too much, or dice may lose value
Feb 07 09:03:33 <jurov>	so far what i've seen mpoe is being cashed out first when btc goes up
Feb 07 09:03:36 <jurov>	niot dice
Feb 07 09:03:40 <jurov>	*not
Feb 07 09:03:59 <jurov>	but these new investors may behave differently
Feb 07 09:06:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 781 @ 0.00068062 = 0.5316 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6678 @ 0.00067971 = 4.5391 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00067932 = 10.1898 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:06:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00067925 = 0.631 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:07:15 <Bugpowder>	21.63 was a bad print
Feb 07 09:08:17 <Bugpowder>	Dice is in trouble IMHO
Feb 07 09:08:46 <Bugpowder>	I'll let others try to figure out why
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Feb 07 09:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00068026 = 4.6258 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2172 @ 0.00067925 = 1.4753 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067922 = 2.9349 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:18:33 <pigeons>	well i dont see why the usd price matters
Feb 07 09:18:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3107 @ 0.00067922 = 2.1103 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:19:18 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 07 09:19:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.27101, Best ask: 21.40999, Bid-ask spread: 0.13898, Last trade: 21.41998, 24 hour volume: 39902.02492274, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 21.43999, 24 hour vwap: 21.19806
Feb 07 09:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 697 @ 0.00590933 = 4.1188 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:20:54 <DeadWeasel>	how do I get the ticker for sdice>  i'll do it in a private window...  :)
Feb 07 09:21:05 <pigeons>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 07 09:21:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00590933 / 0.00633176 / 0.00677999 (889490 shares, 5,632.04 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00579156 / 0.007395 (3554009 shares, 20,583.27 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00530707 / 0.0075 (8584308 shares, 45,557.53 BTC)
Feb 07 09:21:20 <DeadWeasel>	thx pigeons
Feb 07 09:21:28 <pigeons>	m for mpex
Feb 07 09:21:35 <jurov>	!ticker have sdice
Feb 07 09:21:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.60000000 / 0.63230194 / 0.68999980 (2474 shares, 1564.31499660 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.65971495 / 0.89000000 (6184 shares, 4079.67727865 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.62678441 / 0.89000000 (9621 shares, 6030.29283260 BTC)
Feb 07 09:22:11 <jurov>	!ticker amuse me
Feb 07 09:22:12 <assbot>	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
Feb 07 09:22:41 <DeadWeasel>	thx jurov
Feb 07 09:23:58 <jurov>	bitfunder G.SDICE 24h volume is 296BTC
Feb 07 09:24:23 <jurov>	;;ticker btct S.DICE-PT
Feb 07 09:24:24 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Feb 07 09:24:36 <jurov>	;;ticker btctc S.DICE-PT
Feb 07 09:24:39 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Feb 07 09:24:49 <jurov>	!ticker btctc S.DICE-PT
Feb 07 09:24:51 <assbot>	[BTCT:S.DICE-PT] 1D: 0.0061 / 0.0062 / 0.0062 (2600 shares, 16.1 BTC),  7D: 0.0061 / 0.01 / 0.0062 (4600 shares, 28.5 BTC), 30D: 0.0061 / 0.01 / 0.0062 (4600 shares, 28.5 BTC)
Feb 07 09:24:59 <jurov>	oh my
Feb 07 09:25:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067924 = 2.935 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:25:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11479 @ 0.00067922 = 7.7968 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:25:13 <jurov>	!ticker btctc gsdpt
Feb 07 09:25:14 <assbot>	[BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.0058 / 0.0062 / 0.0062 (30906 shares, 190.1 BTC),  7D: 0.0045 / 0.01 / 0.0082 (120487 shares, 770.8 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.01 / 0.0082 (151620 shares, 954.2 BTC)
Feb 07 09:25:44 <jurov>	!ticker btctc bitvps
Feb 07 09:25:45 <assbot>	[BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC),  7D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Feb 07 09:25:59 <jurov>	lol they really threw it into shitter
Feb 07 09:26:10 <DeadWeasel>	they did.
Feb 07 09:26:52 <DeadWeasel>	Think it will rebound?
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Feb 07 09:27:52 <jurov>	only if they start paying divs
Feb 07 09:29:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00067922 = 19.8332 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:30:21 <jurov>	oh oh not so quick
Feb 07 09:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3395 @ 0.00068443 = 2.3236 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:31:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2968 @ 0.00068566 = 2.035 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7837 @ 0.00068567 = 5.3736 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 09:37:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00590933 = 7.0912 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:38:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 565 @ 0.00590933 = 3.3388 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:38:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 35 @ 0.00598704 = 0.2095 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:38:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00067926 = 2.717 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:41:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.63 = 6.3 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:41:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.621 = 1.242 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:41:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.62 = 3.1 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:41:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:41:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:41:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:41:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2252 @ 0.00068567 = 1.5441 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00068718 = 1.9241 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:41:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068898 = 2.9771 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3827 @ 0.00068899 = 2.6368 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:43:03 <jurov>	lol https://btcto.com/ canadians have some serious apologizing to do to burnside
Feb 07 09:43:18 <topace>	why's that ?
Feb 07 09:43:34 <jurov>	too close to http://btct.co
Feb 07 09:44:01 <topace>	its all of canadians faults?
Feb 07 09:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.00067926 = 0.218 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067923 = 2.935 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4258 @ 0.00067922 = 2.8921 BTC [-]
Feb 07 09:44:17 <jurov>	it's running joke on reddit
Feb 07 09:44:24 <topace>	hah
Feb 07 09:44:25 <jurov>	that canadians always apologize
Feb 07 09:44:36 <topace>	oh, sorry didnt realize...
Feb 07 09:44:38 <topace>	:)
Feb 07 09:44:59 <topace>	lol email transfers
Feb 07 09:45:04 <topace>	and cheques
Feb 07 09:45:09 <topace>	uhh huh that'll last long
Feb 07 09:45:23 <topace>	as any major player has already realized, email transfers = fraud
Feb 07 09:45:29 <topace>	eg. virtex, canadianbitcoins
Feb 07 09:45:39 <topace>	but good luck to them
Feb 07 09:45:47 <topace>	when teh banks freeze their accounts for 2 weeks, itll be fun
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Feb 07 09:47:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068878 = 2.9762 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:47:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2129 @ 0.00068899 = 1.4669 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 09:51:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.649 = 1.947 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:52:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 29 @ 0.00598704 = 0.1736 BTC [+]
Feb 07 09:52:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 471 @ 0.00606924 = 2.8586 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 09:55:19 <Bugpowder>	Interesting article on how soccer is f'ed.
Feb 07 09:55:20 <Bugpowder>	http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8924593/match-fixing-soccer
Feb 07 09:55:33 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 07 09:55:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.41101, Best ask: 21.53899, Bid-ask spread: 0.12798, Last trade: 21.41101, 24 hour volume: 41898.14339840, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 21.53900, 24 hour vwap: 21.21666
Feb 07 09:55:42 <Bugpowder>	noice
Feb 07 09:58:47 <Bugpowder>	21.60
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Feb 07 10:08:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067938 = 2.9356 BTC [-]
Feb 07 10:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 608 @ 0.00067922 = 0.413 BTC [-]
Feb 07 10:09:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4348 @ 0.00067922 = 2.9532 BTC [-]
Feb 07 10:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1852 @ 0.00067921 = 1.2579 BTC [-]
Feb 07 10:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00067921 = 6.9959 BTC [-]
Feb 07 10:12:58 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 07 10:13:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.69000, Best ask: 21.87000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 21.87999, 24 hour volume: 45113.46106970, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 21.87999, 24 hour vwap: 21.25330
Feb 07 10:13:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00068649 = 2.6087 BTC [+]
Feb 07 10:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068882 = 2.9764 BTC [+]
Feb 07 10:13:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00068899 = 3.1549 BTC [+]
Feb 07 10:17:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00067933 = 2.2078 BTC [-]
Feb 07 10:17:56 <Bugpowder>	YAH!
Feb 07 10:18:02 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 07 10:18:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.88000, Best ask: 21.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 21.78100, 24 hour volume: 48213.18622376, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.00000, 24 hour vwap: 21.30338
Feb 07 10:18:17 <Bugpowder>	$22.00
Feb 07 10:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00067933 = 0.7276 BTC [-]
Feb 07 10:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8729 @ 0.00067921 = 5.9288 BTC [-]
Feb 07 10:22:48 <Diablo-D3>	so
Feb 07 10:23:02 <Diablo-D3>	I imagine every avalon has infact been sold
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Feb 07 10:25:22 <pigeons>	at least once
Feb 07 10:26:17 <Diablo-D3>	well, somewhere on the forums
Feb 07 10:26:27 <Diablo-D3>	they added up all the money from the block chain
Feb 07 10:26:34 <Diablo-D3>	and it seems to come to all the units
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Feb 07 10:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 91 @ 0.00606924 = 0.5523 BTC [+]
Feb 07 10:39:48 <topace>	!ticker m s.bbet
Feb 07 10:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0003 / 0.00086343 / 0.0011001 (19000 shares, 16.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0003 / 0.00091743 / 0.0015999 (20957 shares, 19.23 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00080035 / 0.0035 (2360520 shares, 1,889.27 BTC)
Feb 07 10:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 609 @ 0.00607973 = 3.7026 BTC [+]
Feb 07 10:39:52 <imsaguy>	Somewhere on the forums, they also solved world peace.
Feb 07 10:39:56 <topace>	wow s.bbet tanked
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Feb 07 10:41:09 <Diablo-D3>	imsaguy: yeah I wish =/
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Feb 07 10:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3780 @ 0.00067921 = 2.5674 BTC [-]
Feb 07 10:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5339 @ 0.00067921 = 3.6263 BTC [-]
Feb 07 10:49:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5811 @ 0.00067915 = 3.9465 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 10:56:20 <Diablo-D3>	everyone should upvote this: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/182fth/i_am_matt_taibbi_politics_writer_for_rolling/c8azhpr
Feb 07 11:01:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068435 = 2.9571 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:01:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7829 @ 0.00068443 = 5.3584 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 11:03:17 <awkorama_>	hi mjr_
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Feb 07 11:03:32 <mjr__>	hi all
Feb 07 11:03:38 <mjr__>	hi awkorama
Feb 07 11:03:40 <mjr__>	what's new
Feb 07 11:04:00 <awkorama_>	not much, gathering together a team for my project now, so things are going well
Feb 07 11:04:48 <mjr__>	awesome
Feb 07 11:04:54 <mjr__>	i am doing pretty much the same thing
Feb 07 11:04:59 <mjr__>	it's going well
Feb 07 11:05:17 <awkorama_>	is your project public? as in public in #bitcoin-assets ?
Feb 07 11:06:08 <truffles>	awkorama didnt say thanks for answering my questions earlier
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Feb 07 11:07:47 <awkorama_>	no problem 1NYKTuqupnichX9ue91fcLhZohJvwzn43x
Feb 07 11:09:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5271 @ 0.00068443 = 3.6076 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068485 = 2.9592 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4647 @ 0.00068486 = 3.1825 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4789 @ 0.00067915 = 3.2524 BTC [-]
Feb 07 11:11:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3561 @ 0.00067914 = 2.4184 BTC [-]
Feb 07 11:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2384 @ 0.00068486 = 1.6327 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:15:27 <DeadWeasel>	is there a bitfunder ticker?
Feb 07 11:16:01 <Diablo-D3>	no
Feb 07 11:18:26 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.new;topicseen#new
Feb 07 11:18:27 <Diablo-D3>	holy shit
Feb 07 11:18:33 <DeadWeasel>	is it possible to move shares from bitfunder to havelock?
Feb 07 11:18:47 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: why bother, the only good exchange is bitfunder
Feb 07 11:18:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2669 @ 0.00068486 = 1.8279 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:18:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068492 = 2.9595 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:18:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00068493 = 1.5068 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2010 @ 0.00068899 = 1.3849 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:20:08 <topace>	Diablo-D3: i beg to differ
Feb 07 11:20:17 <Diablo-D3>	request denied.
Feb 07 11:20:19 <topace>	DeadWeasel: yes, we'll accept incoming shares at havelock from other exchanges
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Feb 07 11:21:28 <DeadWeasel>	ok, thanks topace
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Feb 07 11:23:57 <DeadWeasel>	evoorhees, hows this last tranche doing?
Feb 07 11:24:03 <DeadWeasel>	;)
Feb 07 11:25:11 <evoorhees>	lol
Feb 07 11:25:34 <DeadWeasel>	think it will get absorbed over the next few weeks?
Feb 07 11:25:42 <evoorhees>	last one sold in 30 seconds, this one not a share was touched
Feb 07 11:26:02 <DeadWeasel>	sdice shares are paralyzed
Feb 07 11:26:34 <DeadWeasel>	good fun!
Feb 07 11:26:47 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 07 11:26:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.97001, Best ask: 22.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 21.90001, 24 hour volume: 52597.09968634, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.07000, 24 hour vwap: 21.37718
Feb 07 11:26:49 <evoorhees>	it's okay, at the end of the day if they don't sell I get the dividends
Feb 07 11:26:55 <DeadWeasel>	nice
Feb 07 11:26:55 <Bugpowder>	5MM BTC at ~.006 is on the order of 10MM at original IPO, and much higher in $ terms due to exchange rate movement.  Maybe it's not that suprising in retrospect.
Feb 07 11:27:12 <evoorhees>	yeah that's a fair point
Feb 07 11:27:30 <Bugpowder>	I thought .0062 would sell through though
Feb 07 11:27:39 <Bugpowder>	with stall at 4th tranche
Feb 07 11:27:52 <evoorhees>	yeah me too
Feb 07 11:28:02 <DeadWeasel>	need some Satoshi Dice media frenzy.  go generate some!
Feb 07 11:28:07 <evoorhees>	fuckin market likes to play tricks on people
Feb 07 11:28:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 760 @ 0.00067914 = 0.5161 BTC [-]
Feb 07 11:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6123 @ 0.00067913 = 4.1583 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 11:28:58 <evoorhees>	how's this for media... http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/02/06/171182974/is-online-gambling-legal-if-bitcoins-not-dollars-are-at-stake
Feb 07 11:29:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 337 @ 0.0062 = 2.0894 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:29:12 <evoorhees>	SatoshiDice was on NPR yesterday
Feb 07 11:29:37 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Feb 07 11:29:54 <DeadWeasel>	excellent!
Feb 07 11:30:29 <evoorhees>	sooo... probably 500,000 people heard of it yesterday
Feb 07 11:31:05 <DeadWeasel>	well, those people never heard of bitcoin before.  So it's a big jump just to get BTCs then to even consider buying an SDICE share...
Feb 07 11:32:09 <truffles>	bet they wont know how sdice works still
Feb 07 11:32:31 <truffles>	evoorhees when can we expect the utube?
Feb 07 11:32:38 <DeadWeasel>	it would be weeks and weeks before any change is seen, then it is indistinguishable from other market movements.
Feb 07 11:32:42 <DeadWeasel>	interesting.
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Feb 07 11:33:09 <evoorhees>	oh haha I don't think those people will be bying s.dice shares anytime soon
Feb 07 11:33:25 <evoorhees>	but they are hearing about bitcoin, that's for sure
Feb 07 11:33:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 623 @ 0.00607973 = 3.7877 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:33:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0061948 = 6.1948 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0061949 = 30.9745 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4153 @ 0.00619999 = 25.7486 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:33:56 <DeadWeasel>	but those with BTCs already might.  I think there needs to be a cleaner version of your monthly profit and associate dividends.
Feb 07 11:34:04 <DeadWeasel>	half-marketing half accounting.
Feb 07 11:34:08 <DeadWeasel>	in pretty pretty format.
Feb 07 11:34:13 <DeadWeasel>	to bring in those on the fence.
Feb 07 11:34:20 <DeadWeasel>	get people to talk about their dividends
Feb 07 11:34:32 <evoorhees>	how can the monthly profit be cleaner? it's an easy google spreadsheet available to all
Feb 07 11:34:47 <DeadWeasel>	You know, fonts, colors, make it look professional.
Feb 07 11:35:03 <DeadWeasel>	grab a NYSE pdf of their numbers, steal some formatting etc
Feb 07 11:35:12 <ThickAsThieves>	or put it on a web page instead of a sheet
Feb 07 11:35:18 <DeadWeasel>	exactly.
Feb 07 11:35:22 <ThickAsThieves>	and make the sheet available as link on that page
Feb 07 11:35:33 <ThickAsThieves>	also show daily reports
Feb 07 11:35:38 <DeadWeasel>	the professional touch is not to be underestimated.  people subconscious make more of the decision
Feb 07 11:35:45 <DeadWeasel>	they feel safe with professional looking documents
Feb 07 11:35:52 <ThickAsThieves>	project profit would be good too
Feb 07 11:35:58 <ThickAsThieves>	projected*
Feb 07 11:36:03 <DeadWeasel>	with pretty graphs.
Feb 07 11:36:43 <ThickAsThieves>	projected dividend too
Feb 07 11:36:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.349 = 1.396 BTC [-]
Feb 07 11:36:51 <ThickAsThieves>	that's what people want anyway
Feb 07 11:36:52 <DeadWeasel>	but only if you want to convert those heathen nonbelievers
Feb 07 11:36:55 <DeadWeasel>	yup
Feb 07 11:36:56 <evoorhees>	no I agree, you're absolutely right about that
Feb 07 11:36:57 <ThickAsThieves>	to count their imaginary future money
Feb 07 11:37:25 <truffles>	nominate deadweasel to do the utube!
Feb 07 11:37:29 <evoorhees>	I'm a marketing guy, so i understand that
Feb 07 11:37:36 <DeadWeasel>	play to the subconscious.  :)
Feb 07 11:37:53 <evoorhees>	but, I don't want to be marketing the s.dice asset over and above what it's legitimately worth, if that makes sense
Feb 07 11:38:01 <DeadWeasel>	I've seen you in videos and on interviews, you can talk the talk.
Feb 07 11:38:02 <evoorhees>	I don't want to puff it up
Feb 07 11:38:21 <evoorhees>	I'd rather it sit just below market value, than puff up a bubble with some marketing tricks int he presentation
Feb 07 11:38:24 <awkorama_>	these two lines combines make no sense at all
Feb 07 11:38:31 <DeadWeasel>	you don't have to lie, just make the truth pretty and digestible.
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Feb 07 11:38:42 <truffles>	yea in like 5 minutes
Feb 07 11:38:58 <truffles>	how to sdice
Feb 07 11:39:02 <DeadWeasel>	you're right, you should prepare all this and dump it out there when you get another media bubble.
Feb 07 11:39:14 <DeadWeasel>	all linked and fresh and prety with graphs and whatnot.
Feb 07 11:39:19 <DeadWeasel>	they will eat it up.
Feb 07 11:39:23 <DeadWeasel>	NOM NOM NOM
Feb 07 11:39:25 <evoorhees>	no I'm saying I don't want to do that
Feb 07 11:39:33 <evoorhees>	I don't want to make the asset frothy
Feb 07 11:39:54 <ThickAsThieves>	at this point i'm more interested in dice players than investors
Feb 07 11:39:56 <truffles>	briefly mention it at the end of video?
Feb 07 11:40:01 <evoorhees>	I think we all know how easily people dump money into unsubstantiated "opportunities" in bitcoin
Feb 07 11:40:11 <DeadWeasel>	no doubt
Feb 07 11:40:16 <evoorhees>	thickasthieves - yes, precisely
Feb 07 11:40:20 <DeadWeasel>	you're right, players are more important
Feb 07 11:40:22 <evoorhees>	I'd rather be marketing the game
Feb 07 11:40:37 <DeadWeasel>	i haven't even seen it since the revamp
Feb 07 11:40:43 <DeadWeasel>	not gonna look at work either.
Feb 07 11:40:57 <ThickAsThieves>	that way, when us long investors are ready to take profits from sellin shares, investors will be paying a lot more
Feb 07 11:41:15 <Bugpowder>	betting volume is the only thing that matters
Feb 07 11:41:45 <Bugpowder>	plenty of people know about s.dice that have plenty of coin
Feb 07 11:42:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i also dont care about whales
Feb 07 11:42:14 <ThickAsThieves>	they are nice n all, but they come with risk too
Feb 07 11:42:16 <Bugpowder>	focusing on building the player base is probably the most important thing to focus on
Feb 07 11:42:19 <DeadWeasel>	it was the thrill that got me to spend my first few BTCs on sdice.  the frenzy inside that drove me.
Feb 07 11:42:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.3498 = 2.7984 BTC [+]
Feb 07 11:42:29 <ThickAsThieves>	and you can make more stable money from 100 small timers
Feb 07 11:42:29 <DeadWeasel>	you gotta catch new players when they buy their first BTCs.
Feb 07 11:42:45 <DeadWeasel>	maybe work with wallet services to market you to new accounts.  that would be sweet.
Feb 07 11:43:02 <DeadWeasel>	your blockchain.info one is great, that thing is a BTC sucubus
Feb 07 11:43:04 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah, i do think the POV is, teach gamblers about bitcoin thru sdice, not the reverse
Feb 07 11:43:31 <truffles>	boo we dont need marketing, we need a utube how to!
Feb 07 11:43:35 <topace>	[11:35:36] <DeadWeasel> the professional touch is not to be underestimated.  people subconscious make more of the decision
Feb 07 11:43:35 <DeadWeasel>	that's true, the ones driven away by the US laws.
Feb 07 11:43:41 <topace>	^ that was our thought process as we developed havelock
Feb 07 11:43:45 <topace>	we weanted it to LOOK professional
Feb 07 11:43:48 <DeadWeasel>	give them a happy home before the other sites get organized and into BTC
Feb 07 11:43:53 <topace>	not look like mpex :p (no offense mp )
Feb 07 11:43:57 <DeadWeasel>	you did good topace
Feb 07 11:44:20 <ThickAsThieves>	topace: true, my first purchases were all at havelock because it was the easiest exchange to find and understand how to use
Feb 07 11:44:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2027 @ 0.00067913 = 1.3766 BTC [-]
Feb 07 11:44:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006791 = 2.9344 BTC [-]
Feb 07 11:44:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00067878 = 6.6181 BTC [-]
Feb 07 11:44:33 <ThickAsThieves>	bitfunder does look nice tho
Feb 07 11:44:35 <topace>	ThickAsThieves: awesome good to hear!
Feb 07 11:44:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00067877 = 2.1042 BTC [-]
Feb 07 11:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27626 @ 0.00067854 = 18.7453 BTC [-]
Feb 07 11:44:39 <ThickAsThieves>	BTCTC needs work
Feb 07 11:44:56 <ThickAsThieves>	it looks "old"
Feb 07 11:45:54 <truffles>	make sdice website better for starters
Feb 07 11:45:55 <ThickAsThieves>	no offense, if the creator is reading ;)
Feb 07 11:46:53 <ThickAsThieves>	what about putting bitcoin: links on the addresses on the home page?
Feb 07 11:47:03 <ThickAsThieves>	that's the first thing i tried to do
Feb 07 11:47:05 <evoorhees>	if anyone can make me a utube vid for sdice, please pm me
Feb 07 11:47:28 <topace>	evoorhees: so, 4th tranche? gonna hold off for a bit ?
Feb 07 11:47:31 <truffles>	can i have video veto power?
Feb 07 11:47:38 <topace>	until last nights gets gobbled up?
Feb 07 11:48:06 <ThickAsThieves>	I do graphics and some sound design, no video though
Feb 07 11:48:44 <truffles>	u could do talking
Feb 07 11:49:34 <ThickAsThieves>	I could probably record the voiceover in my studio if I had a script
Feb 07 11:49:43 <evoorhees>	yeah 4th tranche is on hold for now
Feb 07 11:50:06 <truffles>	to write a script i would need to know what it was about..
Feb 07 11:50:20 <evoorhees>	well actually - I only want someone to do a vid if that person is really experienced with it.
Feb 07 11:50:23 <evoorhees>	want it to be professional
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Feb 07 11:50:26 <ThickAsThieves>	agreed
Feb 07 11:50:39 <evoorhees>	not sure that person will be hangin out in the bitcoin-assets channel ;)
Feb 07 11:50:57 <truffles>	oh now who is being picky
Feb 07 11:51:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i could do respectable graphics, but no I can't help with vid
Feb 07 11:51:52 <ThickAsThieves>	plus you have the money to hire a whole firm
Feb 07 11:52:42 <DeadWeasel>	get a college intern with a nice camera, youll find them in the AV club
Feb 07 11:52:47 <truffles>	yea hire a proper webdesigner..
Feb 07 11:52:52 <DeadWeasel>	will work for beans
Feb 07 11:53:21 <truffles>	before this epic video
Feb 07 11:53:43 <ThickAsThieves>	I don't mind the current website
Feb 07 11:53:56 <ThickAsThieves>	other than how the background img isnt large enough
Feb 07 11:53:58 <truffles>	i do..
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Feb 07 11:54:27 <evoorhees>	truffles - link a good website, Id' like to see your preference
Feb 07 11:54:41 <ThickAsThieves>	social media buttons could be bette rplaced, but maybe they get used more in that spot
Feb 07 11:54:43 <truffles>	oh im way too picky
Feb 07 11:54:47 <truffles>	but must not have clutter
Feb 07 11:55:03 <DeadWeasel>	needs examples, go find one! :)
Feb 07 11:55:16 <truffles>	let me see..
Feb 07 11:55:18 <evoorhees>	yeah I want example
Feb 07 11:55:35 <truffles>	of cluttery?
Feb 07 11:55:55 <DeadWeasel>	not shit examples, pro examples.
Feb 07 11:56:48 <truffles>	def puts me on the spot, i visit a lotta shit websites lol
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Feb 07 11:56:54 <truffles>	i get to voice my dislike here
Feb 07 11:56:56 <truffles>	im looking though
Feb 07 11:57:21 <ThickAsThieves>	heh, if i google "gamble online" first return is "FBI — Online Gambling Is Illegal"
Feb 07 11:58:42 <DeadWeasel>	hahaha
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Feb 07 11:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00619999 = 31 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 12:00:20 <ThickAsThieves>	yeesh, are there any good looking gambling sites?
Feb 07 12:00:37 <truffles>	pokerstars?
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Feb 07 12:01:26 <ThickAsThieves>	not ugly, but lifeless
Feb 07 12:01:32 <ThickAsThieves>	(pokerstars)
Feb 07 12:01:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067874 = 2.9328 BTC [+]
Feb 07 12:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8207 @ 0.00067854 = 5.5688 BTC [-]
Feb 07 12:01:54 <Luceo>	Seals with clubs? :D
Feb 07 12:02:07 <truffles>	oh no too much clutter on there
Feb 07 12:02:40 <ThickAsThieves>	what other types of sites have to show a spreadsheet on the home page?
Feb 07 12:03:07 <truffles>	the how to page on sdice is okay, the main page too much green
Feb 07 12:03:34 <ThickAsThieves>	lol the how to is just typography
Feb 07 12:03:59 <truffles>	http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/
Feb 07 12:04:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 48 @ 0.6255 = 30.024 BTC [-]
Feb 07 12:04:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.625 = 1.25 BTC [-]
Feb 07 12:04:40 <ThickAsThieves>	neat, but how would that translate?
Feb 07 12:05:15 <truffles>	doesnt have to be as good as that
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Feb 07 12:07:54 <thestringpuller>	nnakdkfkfk
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Feb 07 12:09:27 <ThickAsThieves>	after looking for a bit, sdice site has a better design than so many gambling related sites
Feb 07 12:09:49 <truffles>	but it just looks cheap..
Feb 07 12:14:59 <truffles>	cant find any other examples i forum too much
Feb 07 12:17:04 <truffles>	http://imagecrab.com/ cool : )
Feb 07 12:19:09 <maximian>	ervoorhees: what's in the pipeline in terms of s.dice marketing?
Feb 07 12:19:53 <maximian>	 'evoorhees' that is
Feb 07 12:20:50 <evoorhees>	honestly it's getting way more marketing than I want, currently
Feb 07 12:21:15 <maximian>	don't like all the attention?
Feb 07 12:21:31 <evoorhees>	I'll figure out some excellent marketing for it, but not until I've gotten some good legal advice on how to protect this thing
Feb 07 12:21:37 <maximian>	right
Feb 07 12:21:40 <truffles>	preventive steps to not get doj-ed?
Feb 07 12:21:53 <evoorhees>	would be bad for my investors if I got it super popular only to have it shut down
Feb 07 12:21:55 <evoorhees>	yeah
Feb 07 12:22:02 <evoorhees>	I think that's the most important thing right now
Feb 07 12:22:09 <maximian>	I have a feeling your lawyer is going to say "you're doing WHAT?!"
Feb 07 12:22:15 <truffles>	just dont fly to merica
Feb 07 12:22:49 <maximian>	no, he should fly out of america tout de suite
Feb 07 12:22:52 <maximian>	:)
Feb 07 12:23:05 <evoorhees>	there are US citizens and companies that operate online gambling businesses, but it has to be domiciled properly, usually licensed properly, and has to comply with some rules
Feb 07 12:23:06 <truffles>	lives there now?
Feb 07 12:23:10 <truffles>	gtfo asap?
Feb 07 12:23:13 <evoorhees>	so that's what I'm in the process of exploring
Feb 07 12:24:47 <truffles>	but ure in ireland or something right
Feb 07 12:25:04 <evoorhees>	SatoshiDice is in ireland
Feb 07 12:25:17 <truffles>	yea but are u there too
Feb 07 12:25:22 <evoorhees>	no
Feb 07 12:25:30 <truffles>	merica?
Feb 07 12:25:33 <evoorhees>	merica
Feb 07 12:25:38 <truffles>	oh boy
Feb 07 12:25:59 <maximian>	You haven't converted a dime of the won BTC to fiat, correct?
Feb 07 12:26:02 <evoorhees>	land of the free
Feb 07 12:26:07 <evoorhees>	correct
Feb 07 12:26:35 <maximian>	That's definitely smart
Feb 07 12:26:44 <truffles>	if u were just a regular employee dont think it matters, but if ure the face maybe
Feb 07 12:26:47 <maximian>	until you develop a game plan
Feb 07 12:27:16 <maximian>	because you can still argue that it's just play tokens
Feb 07 12:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068258 = 2.9494 BTC [+]
Feb 07 12:27:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9679 @ 0.00068262 = 6.6071 BTC [+]
Feb 07 12:28:47 <maximian>	If  this uncertainty didn't exist, I wouldn't care if the share price was 0.0001, because I could be confident that I'd extract dividends for years
Feb 07 12:29:32 <evoorhees>	thus me seeking legal advice ;)
Feb 07 12:31:13 <truffles>	free advice right here, leave merica..
Feb 07 12:34:21 <maximian>	My free advice (more of a longing): redirect satoshidice.com to satoshidice.ie or some other domain while you still can. The website being seized will spook a lot of existing players away.
Feb 07 12:34:21 <Schadenfreude>	Even SE-Asia is better for that kind of business. In Europe look into Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Monaco etc.
Feb 07 12:35:04 <maximian>	some other non-US controlled TLD I should say
Feb 07 12:35:29 <Schadenfreude>	The USA is in a bad state, the IRS and its jack-booted thugs might not care if what zou do is legal if it even is a bit dubious
Feb 07 12:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2435 @ 0.00068262 = 1.6622 BTC [+]
Feb 07 12:35:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068299 = 2.9512 BTC [+]
Feb 07 12:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1444 @ 0.000683 = 0.9863 BTC [+]
Feb 07 12:35:40 <Schadenfreude>	you*
Feb 07 12:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068207 = 2.9472 BTC [-]
Feb 07 12:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4887 @ 0.00068181 = 3.332 BTC [-]
Feb 07 12:42:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068183 = 2.9462 BTC [+]
Feb 07 12:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4646 @ 0.00068181 = 3.1677 BTC [-]
Feb 07 12:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31331 @ 0.00068181 = 21.3618 BTC [-]
Feb 07 12:44:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 769 @ 0.00068023 = 0.5231 BTC [-]
Feb 07 12:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068292 = 2.9509 BTC [+]
Feb 07 12:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 329 @ 0.000683 = 0.2247 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 12:45:45 <jcpham>	<ProfMac> -hustler I started at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0   I used pgp, and have not yet registered a BTC address.  I don't know if I have to re-authenticate each login or not.  There is a lot of info to assimilate, and I'm not there yet.
Feb 07 12:45:59 <jcpham>	^ someone quoted a MPO-PR post in -otc
Feb 07 12:46:27 <jcpham>	i call paradox
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Feb 07 12:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068274 = 2.9501 BTC [-]
Feb 07 12:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3679 @ 0.000683 = 2.5128 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 13:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6748 @ 0.000683 = 4.6089 BTC [+]
Feb 07 13:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2358 @ 0.00068351 = 1.6117 BTC [+]
Feb 07 13:08:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4025 @ 0.00068894 = 2.773 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 13:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00068822 = 6.3316 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 13:31:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00068822 = 7.364 BTC [-]
Feb 07 13:32:23 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 07 13:32:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.75002, Best ask: 21.84999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09997, Last trade: 21.75001, 24 hour volume: 60296.08920281, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.15000, 24 hour vwap: 21.46847
Feb 07 13:32:44 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 07 13:32:45 <gribble>	21.42
Feb 07 13:34:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1975 @ 0.00068894 = 1.3607 BTC [+]
Feb 07 13:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225 @ 0.00068899 = 0.155 BTC [+]
Feb 07 13:35:03 <DeadWeasel>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 07 13:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00590933 / 0.00632497 / 0.00677999 (892420 shares, 5,644.53 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.0057918 / 0.007395 (3565080 shares, 20,648.26 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00532461 / 0.0075 (8366014 shares, 44,545.81 BTC)
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Feb 07 13:45:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1273 @ 0.00068822 = 0.8761 BTC [-]
Feb 07 13:45:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068024 = 2.9393 BTC [-]
Feb 07 13:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12294 @ 0.00068023 = 8.3627 BTC [-]
Feb 07 13:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1940 @ 0.00068899 = 1.3366 BTC [+]
Feb 07 13:46:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006898 = 2.9806 BTC [+]
Feb 07 13:46:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5739 @ 0.00068981 = 3.9588 BTC [+]
Feb 07 13:46:51 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 07 13:46:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.60000000 / 0.63206115 / 0.68999980 (2551 shares, 1612.38799660 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.6591122 / 0.89000000 (6250 shares, 4119.45127865 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.62864917 / 0.89000000 (9575 shares, 6019.31583260 BTC)
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Feb 07 13:50:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4261 @ 0.00068981 = 2.9393 BTC [+]
Feb 07 13:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6889 @ 0.00068982 = 4.7522 BTC [+]
Feb 07 13:51:52 <Chilca>	Why everyone is selling S.DICE?
Feb 07 13:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00068982 = 7.0707 BTC [+]
Feb 07 13:55:45 <topace>	everyones not, most people are buying, just lots of fsupply right now with eric dumping 3million shares on the market
Feb 07 13:57:55 <gesell>	anyone have a copy of the old bitcoin forum?
Feb 07 14:02:49 <DeadWeasel>	buy it up Chilca!
Feb 07 14:02:54 <DeadWeasel>	it's an investment!
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Feb 07 14:03:28 <Chilca>	I don't have more money to buy more!!
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Feb 07 14:18:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2866 @ 0.00068913 = 1.975 BTC [-]
Feb 07 14:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068358 = 2.9537 BTC [-]
Feb 07 14:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00068351 = 7.7578 BTC [-]
Feb 07 14:18:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 787 @ 0.00068023 = 0.5353 BTC [-]
Feb 07 14:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7276 @ 0.00067999 = 4.9476 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 14:26:08 <burnside_afk>	[06:41] <jurov> lol https://btcto.com/ canadians have some serious apologizing to do to burnside
Feb 07 14:26:10 <burnside_afk>	[06:41] <topace> why's that ?
Feb 07 14:26:17 <burnside_afk>	[06:42] <jurov> too close to http://btct.co
Feb 07 14:26:19 <burnside_afk>	[06:42] <topace> its all of canadians faults?
Feb 07 14:26:23 <burnside_afk>	heh
Feb 07 14:26:29 *	burnside_afk is now known as burnside
Feb 07 14:27:27 <burnside>	I think they're confused.  Shoulda been btcto.ca.  ;)
Feb 07 14:27:32 <burnside>	or btct.ca
Feb 07 14:38:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068963 = 2.9799 BTC [+]
Feb 07 14:38:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3211 @ 0.00068979 = 2.2149 BTC [+]
Feb 07 14:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8635 @ 0.00619999 = 53.5369 BTC [+]
Feb 07 14:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2848 @ 0.00067999 = 1.9366 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 14:42:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 831 @ 0.00067903 = 0.5643 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 14:53:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2284 @ 0.00068979 = 1.5755 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 15:10:40 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Where in the PDF does it say "4 machines"?
Feb 07 15:11:25 <Diablo-D3>	the numactl output
Feb 07 15:11:27 <Diablo-D3>	lists 4 nodes
Feb 07 15:11:39 <Diablo-D3>	and count the cores, has 32 cores
Feb 07 15:11:42 <midnightmagic>	It mentions the word "machine", singular, before that.
Feb 07 15:11:53 <midnightmagic>	Right, I am logged into a machine right now with 32 cores, and it's just one machine.
Feb 07 15:12:32 <Diablo-D3>	in 2010, AMD didnt make a CPU that had 16 cores
Feb 07 15:12:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.61 = 1.83 BTC [-]
Feb 07 15:12:42 <Diablo-D3>	and we agree those are 2 socket machines
Feb 07 15:12:48 <midnightmagic>	Even the little picture describes a single processor with 16 cores.
Feb 07 15:13:16 <Bugpowder>	hyperthreading?
Feb 07 15:13:20 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: no.
Feb 07 15:13:30 <Diablo-D3>	AMD has never done hyperthreading
Feb 07 15:13:55 <Diablo-D3>	AMD skipped that step and just do what Sun and IBM do
Feb 07 15:14:26 <midnightmagic>	Dude. If it is significantly slower, and interfering with other CPUs (so the effect is multiplicative), then it is orders of magnitude slower to access remote memory, and a single box is a NUMA box.
Feb 07 15:15:02 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: yes, but where would you find a machine that fits that description?
Feb 07 15:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00068966 = 1.8966 BTC [+]
Feb 07 15:15:16 <Diablo-D3>	and more importantly, who would buy it when they could buy functioning opteron and xeon boxes instead?
Feb 07 15:15:25 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: They've been around for years. I have been personally benchmarking them for years.
Feb 07 15:16:13 <midnightmagic>	Admit that the PDF I linked is talking about a single box!
Feb 07 15:16:19 <Diablo-D3>	because its not
Feb 07 15:16:38 <Diablo-D3>	if it said 24 cores, you could possibly argue that if I didnt already know better
Feb 07 15:17:17 <Diablo-D3>	the 12 core CPUs that the new 16 core bulldozers replace are actually MCM, complete with two memory controllers
Feb 07 15:17:31 <Diablo-D3>	and an internal cross-socket bus
Feb 07 15:18:02 <Diablo-D3>	so if opteron was actually numa like you thought it was, it'd look like that except 24 cores
Feb 07 15:18:19 <midnightmagic>	http://developer.amd.com/assets/LibNUMA-WP-fv1.pdf
Feb 07 15:18:35 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: yes, Ive played with libnuma before
Feb 07 15:18:40 <Diablo-D3>	numactl and friends use it
Feb 07 15:18:51 <midnightmagic>	"INTRODUCTION TO NUMA" page 4.
Feb 07 15:18:54 <Diablo-D3>	AMD manufactures very large numa machines
Feb 07 15:19:01 <Diablo-D3>	like, half the top 500 are AMD NUMAs
Feb 07 15:19:54 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: anyhow, if numastat says you have multiple nodes, then either you're on numa or linux has a good reason for treating your box like numa
Feb 07 15:20:07 <Diablo-D3>	Ive never seen a single opteron box ever say more than one node
Feb 07 15:20:12 <midnightmagic>	"One great advantage of the NUMA architecture is that even in a big system with many CPUs it is possible to get very low latency on the local memory."
Feb 07 15:20:41 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: yes, that statement does not conflict with anything I said
Feb 07 15:20:46 <Diablo-D3>	numa doesnt effect local memory latency
Feb 07 15:21:42 <midnightmagic>	available: 4 nodes (0-3)
Feb 07 15:21:45 <midnightmagic>	:P
Feb 07 15:22:13 <midnightmagic>	That machine is like 6 years old.
Feb 07 15:22:16 <Diablo-D3>	yes, I already pasted that in the other channel
Feb 07 15:22:28 <midnightmagic>	No that's the machine I'm currently logged into right now.
Feb 07 15:22:36 <Diablo-D3>	weird, I wonder whats wrong with it
Feb 07 15:22:45 <Diablo-D3>	how many sockets?
Feb 07 15:24:08 <midnightmagic>	It's an Opteron 854 based machine. Opteron 854s are single-core. You tell me how many sockets.
Feb 07 15:25:12 <Diablo-D3>	huh, socket 940
Feb 07 15:25:49 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: I think I know why it has numa enabled
Feb 07 15:25:52 <midnightmagic>	So for 6 years your definition has been wrong, at least.
Feb 07 15:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1571 @ 0.00068966 = 1.0835 BTC [+]
Feb 07 15:26:06 <midnightmagic>	Grandpa.
Feb 07 15:26:09 <Diablo-D3>	940 only had one htx bus
Feb 07 15:26:16 <Diablo-D3>	so theres an htx bridge somewhere on your mobo
Feb 07 15:26:25 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 07 15:26:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.00001, Best ask: 22.07497, Bid-ask spread: 0.07496, Last trade: 22.00001, 24 hour volume: 61920.41125063, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.15000, 24 hour vwap: 21.51373
Feb 07 15:26:42 <Diablo-D3>	same reason I said some older 8 socket boards might appear as numa
Feb 07 15:26:53 <midnightmagic>	This is a 4-socket.
Feb 07 15:26:54 <Diablo-D3>	not enough individual htx links
Feb 07 15:27:37 <Diablo-D3>	they built two circular rings, then added two bridges where the crosses would go
Feb 07 15:27:45 <Diablo-D3>	a fucking mutant of a machine
Feb 07 15:28:07 <midnightmagic>	Right, it's so alien, it's the ONE EXCEPTION to your definition.
Feb 07 15:28:27 <midnightmagic>	Woops, NUMA exists on multi-socket, single-box machines..
Feb 07 15:28:36 <midnightmagic>	Definition fail.
Feb 07 15:28:40 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: not at all
Feb 07 15:28:54 <midnightmagic>	:P Why do you dislike moore?
Feb 07 15:29:11 <Diablo-D3>	I dont, I just dont like people claiming anything with more than one socket is numa
Feb 07 15:29:13 <Diablo-D3>	its just nonsensical
Feb 07 15:29:35 <midnightmagic>	Except that I have a machine that AMD calls NUMA that I'm logged into right now.
Feb 07 15:29:37 <Diablo-D3>	and I believe I also said that opterons with htx bridges are numa
Feb 07 15:29:50 <Diablo-D3>	yours has bridges. its numa.
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Feb 07 15:30:18 <Diablo-D3>	I'd hate to own that machine though
Feb 07 15:30:42 <Diablo-D3>	you have to be very careful not to use anything that uses threads and/or isnt numa safe
Feb 07 15:30:54 <midnightmagic>	11:30 < moore> and when you have non uniforme access to memory like in a multi socket system it is nonuniform
Feb 07 15:30:59 <Diablo-D3>	not only does that program slow down, but it assrapes the entire machine
Feb 07 15:31:02 <midnightmagic>	I'm fairly sure he's limited it to the definition of NUMA.
Feb 07 15:31:13 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: thats not the way I interpreted that
Feb 07 15:31:28 <midnightmagic>	The definition of NUMA is non-uniform, it's in the acronym.
Feb 07 15:31:45 <Diablo-D3>	yes, but you and him were both claiming ANY non-local memory bank is non-uniform
Feb 07 15:31:53 <Diablo-D3>	which its not
Feb 07 15:32:52 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: and btw, it works the other way
Feb 07 15:32:59 <midnightmagic>	I know you don't log, but even in your scrollback, I'm fairly sure you can't find a quote from me where I asserted that.
Feb 07 15:33:05 <Diablo-D3>	opteron memory controllers talk to each other to synchronize various things
Feb 07 15:33:15 <Diablo-D3>	they dont when they're on other sides of an htx bridge
Feb 07 15:33:30 <midnightmagic>	King of whargarble..
Feb 07 15:33:40 *	midnightmagic points at Diablo-D3.
Feb 07 15:33:41 <Diablo-D3>	if amd ever fixed that, you might end up with a non-numa supercomputer.
Feb 07 15:34:03 <midnightmagic>	I'm fairly sure that speed of memory access is the only qualifier.
Feb 07 15:34:25 <Diablo-D3>	yes, but I go by magnitudes
Feb 07 15:34:26 <midnightmagic>	Also AMD calls the machines NUMA.
Feb 07 15:34:38 <Diablo-D3>	external htx buses are slow and high latency
Feb 07 15:35:37 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: btw, ONLY claiming non-locality of memory being slow means numa
Feb 07 15:35:40 <Diablo-D3>	then what about GPUs?
Feb 07 15:36:06 <Diablo-D3>	are they NUMA too? your definition seems to fit that even though its really wrong
Feb 07 15:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068243 = 2.9488 BTC [-]
Feb 07 15:36:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4679 @ 0.00068218 = 3.1919 BTC [-]
Feb 07 15:36:36 <Diablo-D3>	the majority of memory isnt local to compute units
Feb 07 15:36:50 <midnightmagic>	Yes, GPU memory is non-uniform also.
Feb 07 15:37:01 <Diablo-D3>	its non-uniform, but is it numa?
Feb 07 15:38:05 <Diablo-D3>	actually, I wonder if it does really qualify to be called that
Feb 07 15:38:05 <midnightmagic>	It is much slower for the CPU to access the memory of a GPU, and thus by definition it is also non-uniform memory access.
Feb 07 15:38:12 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60og9gwKh1o <-diablo
Feb 07 15:38:20 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: Im talking just from the perspective of the gpu
Feb 07 15:39:06 <midnightmagic>	Taken as a unified whole, any processor "accessing" other memory, regardless of whether the system has to *push* memory out to a GPU and act as an interloper, means it is non-uniform memory access.
Feb 07 15:39:16 <midnightmagic>	intermediary even.
Feb 07 15:39:31 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, but Im just talking the gpu accessing vram
Feb 07 15:39:35 <Diablo-D3>	vram is non-local
Feb 07 15:39:41 <Diablo-D3>	to the gpu itself
Feb 07 15:40:00 <Diablo-D3>	compute units actually have local memory, and individual threads have local memory on top of that
Feb 07 15:40:42 <midnightmagic>	I don't know enough about that to meaningfully discuss it with you.
Feb 07 15:40:53 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Feb 07 15:40:58 <midnightmagic>	So are you just trolling moore?
Feb 07 15:41:07 <Diablo-D3>	no, I thought moore was trolling me
Feb 07 15:41:08 <midnightmagic>	a/are/were/ ?
Feb 07 15:41:47 <midnightmagic>	No, really. Did you just make all this up and then got surprised so you have to defend it by pretending "node" in the literature means something other than what it does?
Feb 07 15:42:54 <Diablo-D3>	huh? the only thing you've done is found a box that qualifies to be called numa
Feb 07 15:43:14 <Diablo-D3>	and due to how its constructed, yes, using it as numa is a better use of it's resources
Feb 07 15:44:26 <midnightmagic>	"its".
Feb 07 15:44:49 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: and btw, that 8 core box I described, Im pretty sure it had a northbridge for the second ring
Feb 07 15:44:54 <Bugpowder>	You guys should hang out, maybe go on a date
Feb 07 15:44:55 <Diablo-D3>	ie, two northbridges in one box
Feb 07 15:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00619998 = 7.44 BTC [-]
Feb 07 15:45:20 <Diablo-D3>	strange ass machine
Feb 07 15:45:39 <midnightmagic>	You mean super common amongst processors that have individual MM.
Feb 07 15:45:58 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: I said 2 not 8.
Feb 07 15:46:06 <midnightmagic>	"Super common machine." There.. FTFY.
Feb 07 15:46:10 <dub>	Bugpowder: they should take it to #bitcoin-bromance
Feb 07 15:46:26 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: its not common for machines to have more than one northbridge
Feb 07 15:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006896 = 2.9798 BTC [+]
Feb 07 15:46:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13029 @ 0.00068979 = 8.9873 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 15:46:55 <midnightmagic>	Ah, you're talking about your own machine, not the one I'm currently logged into right now.
Feb 07 15:47:01 <ThickAsThieves>	Intel is so much better than AMD
Feb 07 15:47:06 <midnightmagic>	I'm talking about the one I'm currently logged into.
Feb 07 15:47:07 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: Im talking in genral
Feb 07 15:47:15 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1510110#msg1510110
Feb 07 15:47:18 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: yours I wouldnt doubt it has a weird layout
Feb 07 15:47:24 <Namworld>	Now that's what I'm talking about
Feb 07 15:47:29 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: it probably has at least one htx bridge
Feb 07 15:47:41 <midnightmagic>	And.. almost every other machine that has a multi-socketed processor where each processor has a mm onboard and hands out memory to other processors over an interconnect.
Feb 07 15:47:56 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: I dont consider mm northbridges
Feb 07 15:48:25 <midnightmagic>	Pretty much every processor that can be used in a multi-socket machine now benefits from a NUMA-aware Linux.
Feb 07 15:48:37 <Diablo-D3>	probably.
Feb 07 15:48:49 <Diablo-D3>	dont get me wrong, I wish more shit was numa aware
Feb 07 15:49:02 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: yeah, I think thats awesome
Feb 07 15:49:22 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: as a programmer, Ive basically rejected threading altogether
Feb 07 15:49:25 <Namworld>	I think my ASICMINER shares will be sold =/
Feb 07 15:49:32 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: why?
Feb 07 15:49:44 <Namworld>	Because they're already on auction
Feb 07 15:49:48 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Feb 07 15:49:55 <Diablo-D3>	what are you selling them for?
Feb 07 15:49:58 <Namworld>	and past their reserve price
Feb 07 15:50:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3910 @ 0.0062 = 24.242 BTC [+]
Feb 07 15:50:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16090 @ 0.0062 = 99.758 BTC [+]
Feb 07 15:50:27 <midnightmagic>	So when do consumer asicminer devices go on sale?
Feb 07 15:50:35 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: wont be with this batch
Feb 07 15:50:44 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: and where are you selling them?
Feb 07 15:50:47 <pigeons>	midnightmagic: avalon has sold 2 batches
Feb 07 15:50:57 <pigeons>	oh asicminer the brand
Feb 07 15:50:58 <pigeons>	sorry
Feb 07 15:51:02 <Diablo-D3>	-_-`
Feb 07 15:51:11 <pigeons>	i thought you meant "consumer asic mining devices"
Feb 07 15:51:23 <Namworld>	on the forums
Feb 07 15:51:51 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: anyhow, whatever. if numactl says its numa, its probably numa, and I was tired of this argument long before gmaxwell freaked out
Feb 07 15:52:08 <Namworld>	If the others never ship, I'll be pissed.
Feb 07 15:52:09 <midnightmagic>	:P
Feb 07 15:52:22 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: bfl probably wont, and basic failed to ship
Feb 07 15:52:40 <midnightmagic>	If the others never ship, asicminer will have enough hash to 50%, and asic doomsday will happen.
Feb 07 15:52:56 <Diablo-D3>	erm, you both do realize avalon shipped, right?
Feb 07 15:53:13 <Namworld>	Yeah
Feb 07 15:53:15 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: I don't hear about anyone else receiving their units.
Feb 07 15:53:21 <Diablo-D3>	2 out of 4 isnt bad when you realize how fucking scammy shit is
Feb 07 15:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00068979 = 5.9667 BTC [+]
Feb 07 15:53:33 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Also, Yifu said the source would be published ages ago, but I don't see it.
Feb 07 15:53:33 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: dude, I really doubt they made 2 fully functioning machines like that
Feb 07 15:53:44 <pigeons>	i want an avalon
Feb 07 15:53:47 <Diablo-D3>	the source for what, exactly? openwrt and cgminer?
Feb 07 15:53:55 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Yeah me too. And they're not fully functioning. Have you been seeing all the reboots Jeff's unit is doing?
Feb 07 15:53:57 <Namworld>	BFL might still save their face and just be really late incompetents.
Feb 07 15:54:00 <Diablo-D3>	its not like he wrote any software
Feb 07 15:54:11 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Their changes to cgminer I'm personally most interested in.
Feb 07 15:54:12 <Namworld>	Otherwise, sucks for everyone.
Feb 07 15:54:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068253 = 2.9492 BTC [-]
Feb 07 15:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8534 @ 0.00068218 = 5.8217 BTC [-]
Feb 07 15:54:18 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141067.msg1510245#msg1510245
Feb 07 15:54:25 <Namworld>	Well the auction thread
Feb 07 15:54:29 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: I dont know why the reboots are happening
Feb 07 15:54:35 <Diablo-D3>	I think they did the fault detection shit wrong
Feb 07 15:54:42 <Diablo-D3>	instead of just handling it normally, they reboot the whole box
Feb 07 15:55:08 <Diablo-D3>	0.35 price per share? huh
Feb 07 15:55:17 <Bugpowder>	you bought at .1?
Feb 07 15:55:22 <Bugpowder>	That is sweet
Feb 07 15:55:23 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: I'm really hoping it's not that sensitive to heat. Because that would suck..
Feb 07 15:55:25 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 07 15:55:33 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: its not
Feb 07 15:55:36 <Bugpowder>	it is more money than you would make by holding the shares and recieving dividends
Feb 07 15:55:47 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Jeff said when he gets it cooled properly the reboots ease up.
Feb 07 15:55:50 <Namworld>	But looks like ASICMINER is deploying boards. Plus it's not like it's a fixed bond.
Feb 07 15:55:57 <Bugpowder>	AND you could then put the proceeds on NO on the BFL bitbet to increase it even more
Feb 07 15:56:11 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 0.36 * 696
Feb 07 15:56:12 <gribble>	250.56
Feb 07 15:56:13 <Namworld>	It's a long term profit share of an ASIC manufacturer
Feb 07 15:56:18 <Diablo-D3>	meh
Feb 07 15:56:28 <Bugpowder>	250BTC aint bad
Feb 07 15:56:35 <Bugpowder>	I would take it and run
Feb 07 15:56:42 <midnightmagic>	Is asicminer listed on an exchange somewhere?
Feb 07 15:56:46 <Bugpowder>	NOP
Feb 07 15:56:50 <Namworld>	We're at day 3.5 of a 7 days auction.
Feb 07 15:57:04 <Namworld>	last ones went for 0.45 each
Feb 07 15:57:10 <Namworld>	was only 10 shares tho
Feb 07 15:57:17 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Feb 07 15:57:22 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 0.35 * 696
Feb 07 15:57:22 <gribble>	243.6
Feb 07 15:57:52 <Bugpowder>	If avalon really hasn't shipped
Feb 07 15:58:08 <midnightmagic>	Bugpowder: They said there were customs delays.
Feb 07 15:58:13 <Bugpowder>	These shares could make. 1BTC each
Feb 07 15:58:22 <Bugpowder>	I think that is the max upside
Feb 07 15:58:31 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: I think closer to 2
Feb 07 15:58:31 <midnightmagic>	On the bright side, I heard back from them and they told me that Icarus owners get to jump the line. :)
Feb 07 15:58:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3751 @ 0.00068219 = 2.5589 BTC [+]
Feb 07 15:59:06 <Diablo-D3>	well, let the games begin I guess
Feb 07 15:59:35 <Bugpowder>	Although, the best use of fiat was to actually BUY bitcoins instead of mining equipment
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Feb 07 16:00:37 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 0.32 * 696
Feb 07 16:00:38 <gribble>	222.72
Feb 07 16:00:39 <midnightmagic>	Bugpowder: From a purely economic sense. *Some* people just want to participate more as a miner, and get pristine coins.
Feb 07 16:01:23 <midnightmagic>	pigeons: Originally, 200+ share owners for asicminer were planned to be able to trade-in and get an asicminer. I don't know what's happening with that deal these days.
Feb 07 16:01:34 <Bugpowder>	yeah, mining is kinda fun
Feb 07 16:01:52 <Bugpowder>	until my apt smelled like hot PCBs
Feb 07 16:02:42 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I made a bid
Feb 07 16:03:47 <pigeons>	another one I wonder about is deepbit reclaimer asics where you buy the shares at icbit.se
Feb 07 16:04:05 <kakobrekla>	that one is dead
Feb 07 16:05:55 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: hahahaha I made the list short
Feb 07 16:06:00 <Namworld>	You sure it's going to be rentable?
Feb 07 16:06:30 <dub>	you would have to assume asicminer got their boards hashing individually before racking them up
Feb 07 16:07:05 <Namworld>	If they stick around for at least a year mining and selling ASICs, I guess... more if they design new chips in the future.
Feb 07 16:07:22 <Namworld>	I guess the competition will be an important impact
Feb 07 16:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006876 = 2.9711 BTC [+]
Feb 07 16:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 455 @ 0.00068753 = 0.3128 BTC [-]
Feb 07 16:08:57 <Namworld>	I am torn right now, by my will to secure a profit right away and how good ASICMINER seems to be turning out.
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Feb 07 16:09:29 <dub>	somebody said that once you have a design applying it to 'smaller process' is easier?
Feb 07 16:09:37 <Diablo-D3>	dub: yes
Feb 07 16:19:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.63999999 = 1.28 BTC [+]
Feb 07 16:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068953 = 2.9795 BTC [+]
Feb 07 16:23:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00068978 = 1.2271 BTC [+]
Feb 07 16:25:03 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1510794#msg1510794 why the fuck would you mock up at least 4 subracks?
Feb 07 16:26:23 <dub>	gah its the forum.
Feb 07 16:27:10 <Diablo-D3>	dub: I like to think of them as ghetto bladeboxes
Feb 07 16:30:36 <dub>	theres plenty of telco kit in that type of configuration, ISDN muxes etc
Feb 07 16:32:01 <Diablo-D3>	I thought that kind of gear was horizontal?
Feb 07 16:34:16 <midnightmagic>	pigeons: Reclaimer, at least in the broken google translation from Russian, was going to be extremely technically complex to configure. Much more raw than the other polished devices coming online.
Feb 07 16:34:21 <dub>	not by convention that I am aware, most of what I've seen has vertical cards
Feb 07 16:38:37 <midnightmagic>	pigeons: Tycho is taking refund requests now from reclaimer orders..
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Feb 07 16:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.000688 = 1.9952 BTC [-]
Feb 07 16:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 570 @ 0.00068775 = 0.392 BTC [-]
Feb 07 16:42:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14695 @ 0.00068753 = 10.1033 BTC [-]
Feb 07 16:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4933 @ 0.00068522 = 3.3802 BTC [-]
Feb 07 16:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7055 @ 0.00068218 = 4.8128 BTC [-]
Feb 07 16:47:17 <Bugpowder>	loving this relentless buying pressure
Feb 07 16:47:19 <Bugpowder>	22.21
Feb 07 16:47:49 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 07 16:47:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.18000, Best ask: 22.20810, Bid-ask spread: 0.02810, Last trade: 22.20810, 24 hour volume: 62600.03776828, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.20810, 24 hour vwap: 21.55024
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Feb 07 16:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068959 = 2.9797 BTC [+]
Feb 07 16:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2679 @ 0.00068978 = 1.8479 BTC [+]
Feb 07 16:50:01 <Namworld>	But will it last is the question
Feb 07 16:50:38 <dub>	hope not
Feb 07 16:51:18 <dub>	Namworld: have you worked out how transfering your asicminer shares is gogin to work?
Feb 07 16:51:27 <dub>	might be tempted to sell mine around that rte
Feb 07 16:51:34 <dub>	rate*
Feb 07 16:51:53 <Namworld>	ASICMINER plans to make an exclusive platform to transfer shares.
Feb 07 16:52:15 <Namworld>	If it's not done before dividends coming in, I plan to just forward them.
Feb 07 16:52:19 <dub>	yeah but in the interim, or are you holding on behalf until then?
Feb 07 16:52:22 <dub>	ah
Feb 07 16:52:25 <Namworld>	yes
Feb 07 16:52:33 <Namworld>	I guess there's no other options
Feb 07 16:52:58 <Namworld>	Unless friedcat is willing to make it personally and verify a signed statement from me
Feb 07 16:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068238 = 2.9486 BTC [-]
Feb 07 16:53:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 679 @ 0.00068218 = 0.4632 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 16:55:36 <Ukto>	thought he was
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Feb 07 16:57:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0006897 = 1.7932 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 17:01:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 75 @ 0.0099 = 0.7425 BTC [-]
Feb 07 17:01:52 <Namworld>	Ah, I was not sure
Feb 07 17:02:01 <Namworld>	His thread is huge, might have missed it.
Feb 07 17:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1721 @ 0.0006897 = 1.187 BTC [+]
Feb 07 17:03:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5542 @ 0.00068978 = 3.8228 BTC [+]
Feb 07 17:03:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3837 @ 0.00068979 = 2.6467 BTC [+]
Feb 07 17:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1196 @ 0.00619998 = 7.4152 BTC [-]
Feb 07 17:07:23 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 07 17:07:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.02102, Best ask: 22.19800, Bid-ask spread: 0.17698, Last trade: 22.02102, 24 hour volume: 63404.43122740, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.21999, 24 hour vwap: 21.57193
Feb 07 17:07:37 <jurov>	new high?
Feb 07 17:07:58 <Bugpowder>	Well
Feb 07 17:08:04 <Bugpowder>	If you plot the monthly
Feb 07 17:08:20 <Bugpowder>	it has been climbing linearly $0.35 day for 23 days
Feb 07 17:08:31 <Bugpowder>	Projecting to Opex
Feb 07 17:08:53 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 22.20+.25*14
Feb 07 17:08:54 <gribble>	25.7
Feb 07 17:08:58 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 22.20+.35*14
Feb 07 17:08:58 <gribble>	27.1
Feb 07 17:09:23 <Bugpowder>	A boy can dream
Feb 07 17:09:50 <Bugpowder>	TESLA
Feb 07 17:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068383 = 2.9548 BTC [-]
Feb 07 17:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15813 @ 0.0006835 = 10.8082 BTC [-]
Feb 07 17:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6348 @ 0.00068218 = 4.3305 BTC [-]
Feb 07 17:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9534 @ 0.00067904 = 6.474 BTC [-]
Feb 07 17:11:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6354 @ 0.00067903 = 4.3146 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 17:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067914 = 2.9346 BTC [+]
Feb 07 17:16:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4079 @ 0.00067904 = 2.7698 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 17:35:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.63999999 = 4.48 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 17:41:21 <Bugpowder>	What an idiot. http://docpad.evbogue.com/posts/coinbase
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Feb 07 17:46:23 <kakobrekla>	super cool dude with 42bucks.
Feb 07 17:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	o hey 22 huh
Feb 07 17:49:01 <Bugpowder>	probably has mental health issues
Feb 07 17:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1540 @ 0.00067904 = 1.0457 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 17:50:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 225 @ 0.0062 = 1.395 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 17:54:41 <Bowjob>	hey bugpoweder
Feb 07 17:54:54 <Bowjob>	earlier you said dice is in trouble. what do yo umean by that
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Feb 07 17:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136025259648.jpg 0,0
Feb 07 17:56:11 <Bowjob>	wtf
Feb 07 17:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	ikr?
Feb 07 17:57:09 <jcpham>	ummmm
Feb 07 17:57:14 <jcpham>	thug life.
Feb 07 17:57:21 <Bowjob>	mp is that you?
Feb 07 17:57:29 <mircea_popescu>	no, i think it's some forum dude
Feb 07 17:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	apparently mpoe-pr offered some dood 10 btc for sharpie in pooper pic ?!
Feb 07 17:57:55 *	jcpham runs this ass through pattern recognition software
Feb 07 17:58:15 <jcpham>	i have a db of ass pics
Feb 07 17:58:20 <jcpham>	lemme see if I can match it up
Feb 07 17:58:27 <Namworld>	I learned to not click dtng links
Feb 07 17:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	go right ahead
Feb 07 17:58:51 <mircea_popescu>	by now i'm kinda scared to step away
Feb 07 17:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	im gone for half a day, you never know what i find when i'm back
Feb 07 17:59:32 <jurov>	what happened?
Feb 07 17:59:48 <jurov>	i know that feeling but today seems pretty uneventful
Feb 07 18:00:12 <jurov>	and s.dice tranche got postponed too
Feb 07 18:00:16 <kakobrekla>	NEW DRAMA: nothing happend.
Feb 07 18:00:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.0231 = 0.3234 BTC [-]
Feb 07 18:01:35 <dub>	fuu-
Feb 07 18:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	the drama to end all drama
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Feb 07 18:02:08 <Bowjob>	so if the tranch is delayed then the 30 day rule kicks in?
Feb 07 18:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Feb 07 18:02:26 <Bowjob>	I feel we got saturated a bit, no one is eating dat wall
Feb 07 18:03:33 <mircea_popescu>	a, well, prolly have to wait a bit yeah
Feb 07 18:03:54 <mircea_popescu>	tho was like 250k earlier, now i see liek 130
Feb 07 18:05:17 <Bugpowder>	no
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Feb 07 18:05:33 <Bugpowder>	I think its different oreders
Feb 07 18:05:39 <Bugpowder>	the 250k got pulled
Feb 07 18:05:49 <Bugpowder>	but it might have come back as a split
Feb 07 18:06:12 <Bugpowder>	but didn't look like it given how they appeared
Feb 07 18:06:24 <Bugpowder>	and thier 1 satoshi difference pricing
Feb 07 18:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	a
Feb 07 18:09:06 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Feb 07 18:09:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00590933 / 0.00619936 / 0.0064 (500087 shares, 3,100.22 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00578926 / 0.007395 (3563078 shares, 20,627.61 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00533866 / 0.0075 (8223498 shares, 43,902.48 BTC)
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Feb 07 18:14:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00619998 = 1.86 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 18:15:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3087 @ 0.00619998 = 19.1393 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 18:18:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1962 @ 0.00067931 = 1.3328 BTC [+]
Feb 07 18:18:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9838 @ 0.00067903 = 6.6803 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 18:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4 @ 0.00068978 = 0.0028 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 18:26:01 <Bowjob>	hey mp, erik said the other tranches are postponed or canned indefinately
Feb 07 18:26:09 <Bowjob>	so the 30 day rule applies now?
Feb 07 18:26:38 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean applies now ?
Feb 07 18:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	the 30 day rule applies to the original ipo described in the contract
Feb 07 18:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	after that the owner does w/e he wants
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Feb 07 18:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00068978 = 1.0347 BTC [+]
Feb 07 18:28:21 <Bowjob>	oh
Feb 07 18:28:21 <Bowjob>	kk
Feb 07 18:28:22 <Namworld>	what mircea said
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Feb 07 18:29:09 <pigeons>	!ticker b bitvps
Feb 07 18:29:09 <assbot>	These beans is shit.
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Feb 07 18:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00067903 = 8.3181 BTC [-]
Feb 07 18:32:51 <Namworld>	!ticker bc bitvps
Feb 07 18:32:51 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Feb 07 18:33:02 <Namworld>	!ticker btct bitvps
Feb 07 18:33:05 <assbot>	[BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC),  7D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Feb 07 18:33:24 <Namworld>	It's not trading yet
Feb 07 18:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 07 18:34:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.00002, Best ask: 22.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09998, Last trade: 22.10000, 24 hour volume: 63605.98111189, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.21999, 24 hour vwap: 21.59327
Feb 07 18:34:24 <pigeons>	so asicminer has asics?
Feb 07 18:34:36 <pigeons>	or "comming soon"
Feb 07 18:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	Network total	26.884 Thash/s
Feb 07 18:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	in a word, no.
Feb 07 18:34:59 <pigeons>	ok so there is only avalons
Feb 07 18:35:06 <pigeons>	still only 2 avalons?
Feb 07 18:35:17 <Bowjob>	well it was 22.xx TH
Feb 07 18:35:20 <Bowjob>	now 26
Feb 07 18:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	it would seem some chinese people got some boxes too
Feb 07 18:35:28 <Bowjob>	damn chinese people
Feb 07 18:35:40 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob it varies 22-33 with the luck variance
Feb 07 18:35:55 <pigeons>	yeah there isn't any difference between 22 and 26
Feb 07 18:36:04 <pigeons>	you cant know
Feb 07 18:36:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2817 @ 0.00068978 = 1.9431 BTC [+]
Feb 07 18:36:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4583 @ 0.00068978 = 3.1613 BTC [+]
Feb 07 18:36:39 <pigeons>	and when does avalon sell more units?
Feb 07 18:37:20 <Namworld>	http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin.png
Feb 07 18:37:33 <Namworld>	You can see the drop after reward halving for december
Feb 07 18:37:45 <Namworld>	and now it's climbing up just as fast
Feb 07 18:38:51 <jurov>	hot wallet stolen? just do an IPO: https://cryptostocks.com/securities/34
Feb 07 18:39:16 <pigeons>	yeah that's a "nice" valuation there
Feb 07 18:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	i thought this was the bitfloor
Feb 07 18:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	how silly of me
Feb 07 18:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	it's YET ANOTHER different one.
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Feb 07 18:41:59 <jurov>	maybe you remember me raving how ugly their website was
Feb 07 18:42:08 <jurov>	that was before mpex
Feb 07 18:42:41 <jurov>	oh i didn't meant it that way, sry
Feb 07 18:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	mpex isn't ugly
Feb 07 18:43:50 <mircea_popescu>	it's just differently beautiful
Feb 07 18:43:57 <Bowjob>	its dog
Feb 07 18:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	dog-gone pretty.
Feb 07 18:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed3VprSRe5c
Feb 07 18:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda funny.
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Feb 07 18:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068944 = 2.9791 BTC [-]
Feb 07 18:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5417 @ 0.00068978 = 3.7365 BTC [+]
Feb 07 18:50:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2962 @ 0.00068979 = 2.0432 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 19:02:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.0006791 = 2.6824 BTC [-]
Feb 07 19:02:57 <smickles>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 07 19:02:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067854 / 0.00069172 / 0.0007 (3255366 shares, 2,251.80 BTC), 7D: 0.00064676 / 0.00068225 / 0.0007 (17909130 shares, 12,218.56 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066424 / 0.0007 (61845920 shares, 41,080.77 BTC)
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Feb 07 19:03:58 <Namworld>	!ticker btct s.dice-pt
Feb 07 19:04:00 <assbot>	[BTCT:S.DICE-PT] 1D: 0.0061 / 0.0062 / 0.0062 (330 shares, 2.0 BTC),  7D: 0.0061 / 0.01 / 0.0062 (4600 shares, 28.5 BTC), 30D: 0.0061 / 0.01 / 0.0062 (4600 shares, 28.5 BTC)
Feb 07 19:09:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 371 @ 0.0006791 = 0.2519 BTC [-]
Feb 07 19:09:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067904 = 2.9341 BTC [-]
Feb 07 19:09:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5240 @ 0.00067903 = 3.5581 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 19:19:38 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 07 19:19:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.11001, Best ask: 22.18999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 22.18999, 24 hour volume: 63835.22357796, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.21999, 24 hour vwap: 21.61214
Feb 07 19:19:55 <jurov>	it's stabilizing at 22?
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Feb 07 19:21:38 <Bugpowder>	doubt it
Feb 07 19:22:31 <Namworld>	I've priced my S.DICE pass-through at 0.0059 if that interests anyone.
Feb 07 19:22:32 <kakobrekla>	if its 22 more than 5min its stable.
Feb 07 19:23:04 <jurov>	lol, it's like 3hrs
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Feb 07 19:23:22 <kakobrekla>	sheesh, time to move already
Feb 07 19:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	it does this move-and-rest thing
Feb 07 19:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	moves in a day, waits for a coupla, moves again
Feb 07 19:25:32 <jurov>	lol libertards dreaming of stealing mpex hotwallet: http://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/182v6v/as_international_currency_war_brews_bitcoin_may/c8b833u
Feb 07 19:26:05 <Namworld>	Isn't it an offline wallet...
Feb 07 19:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	well why ruin their fun.
Feb 07 19:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	i'm sure they can do anything.
Feb 07 19:27:17 <jurov>	MP gonna close mpex and point to that thread as culprit
Feb 07 19:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSjLiQxEZlM
Feb 07 19:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol they seriously don't see that angle, i'm sure. I could just go "sorry, X redditor stole all the moneyz. Bye"
Feb 07 19:30:42 <Namworld>	Do they plan to pay for whole airplane tickets to Romania? A classic crowbar and american fist kind of "hacking"?
Feb 07 19:30:44 <Namworld>	http://xkcd.com/538/
Feb 07 19:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they get free sex reassignment surgery with that trip.
Feb 07 19:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068206 = 2.9472 BTC [+]
Feb 07 19:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2094 @ 0.00068224 = 1.4286 BTC [+]
Feb 07 19:42:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.63999999 = 10.88 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 19:49:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068209 = 2.9473 BTC [-]
Feb 07 19:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10137 @ 0.00068224 = 6.9159 BTC [+]
Feb 07 19:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7321 @ 0.00068908 = 5.0448 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 19:51:55 <Bugpowder>	upup
Feb 07 19:52:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.93 BTC [+]
Feb 07 19:53:07 <Namworld>	?
Feb 07 19:53:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 10 @ 0.925 = 9.25 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 19:54:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 12.122 BTC [+]
Feb 07 19:55:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 12.12 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 19:59:32 <Bugpowder>	stable at 22???
Feb 07 19:59:36 <Bugpowder>	i think not
Feb 07 20:01:01 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 07 20:01:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.26826, Best ask: 22.35500, Bid-ask spread: 0.08674, Last trade: 22.35500, 24 hour volume: 61512.56044097, 24 hour low: 20.87000, 24 hour high: 22.35500, 24 hour vwap: 21.67908
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Feb 07 20:04:58 <Bugpowder>	22.40
Feb 07 20:05:18 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 25
Feb 07 20:05:20 <gribble>	There are currently 18351.727 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 432045.110806 USD in total.
Feb 07 20:05:42 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 20
Feb 07 20:05:44 <gribble>	There are currently 30640.908 bitcoins demanded at or over 20.0 USD, worth 641566.791021 USD in total.
Feb 07 20:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067907 = 2.9343 BTC [-]
Feb 07 20:07:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20131 @ 0.00067903 = 13.6696 BTC [-]
Feb 07 20:08:19 <Namworld>	Better cash in
Feb 07 20:09:02 <Bugpowder>	at some point, these coins start really being worth a lot of money.
Feb 07 20:10:23 <Namworld>	But what happened since last month that would create such huge demand?
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Feb 07 20:11:12 <Bowjob>	could be a whale charging up their stash to play more dice
Feb 07 20:11:43 <error4733>	hello btcland
Feb 07 20:12:15 <Bowjob>	honestly this rally is scaring my
Feb 07 20:12:16 <error4733>	i was off for 24h, how many drama ?
Feb 07 20:12:16 <Bowjob>	me
Feb 07 20:12:23 <Bowjob>	btc rally
Feb 07 20:12:40 <Bowjob>	the bears getting slaughtered, ect
Feb 07 20:12:41 <error4733>	i say drama :)
Feb 07 20:12:49 <Bowjob>	bears getting slaughtered
Feb 07 20:13:04 <Bowjob>	and me crying not buying btc when they were 17
Feb 07 20:13:52 <error4733>	no worries, just wait for the next Mtgox hack
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Feb 07 20:17:14 <Bugpowder>	reward halving
Feb 07 20:17:18 <Bugpowder>	is really kicking in
Feb 07 20:17:25 <Bugpowder>	and the press
Feb 07 20:18:18 <Bowjob>	we are heading for the moon
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Feb 07 20:18:27 <Bowjob>	bug
Feb 07 20:18:34 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg30ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
Feb 07 20:18:34 <Bowjob>	you ssaid earlier, dice could be in trouble
Feb 07 20:18:35 <Bowjob>	what is
Feb 07 20:18:36 <Bowjob>	?
Feb 07 20:18:41 <Bugpowder>	not legal
Feb 07 20:19:01 <Bugpowder>	I have no insider knowledge
Feb 07 20:19:11 <Bowjob>	oh, so its not about the volume?
Feb 07 20:19:38 <Bowjob>	its muddy, really. it doesnt pay taxes, it deals with bitcoin
Feb 07 20:19:51 <Bugpowder>	what is your analysis
Feb 07 20:20:08 <Bugpowder>	of the near term prospects for S.DICE?
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Feb 07 20:20:43 <Namworld>	What country is S.DICE in? None?
Feb 07 20:21:06 <Bowjob>	we will stay at below 7ish, for a while now, the extra 3 million shares satisfied the market and some people are hoping to cash out quick
Feb 07 20:21:42 <Bowjob>	the volume that we saw last month was largely due to just a handful of whales. i want volume from everyone
Feb 07 20:21:52 <Bugpowder>	1 whale
Feb 07 20:21:57 <Bowjob>	seems the whales have stopped for now.. similar to what happened early in jan
Feb 07 20:22:05 <Bowjob>	so its just that 1 guy that pumped the price
Feb 07 20:22:09 <Bugpowder>	there is something different this time
Feb 07 20:22:13 <Bugpowder>	I beleive
Feb 07 20:22:13 <Bowjob>	which is?
Feb 07 20:22:34 <Bugpowder>	that's an exercise for the reader ;-)
Feb 07 20:22:47 <Bowjob>	so near term prospects, sellers are a bit screwed
Feb 07 20:22:52 <Bowjob>	this btc rally isn't helping
Feb 07 20:23:12 <Bowjob>	I'm less inclined to play dice due to this rally, opposite to what eric said. but thats just me
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Feb 07 20:24:01 <Bowjob>	im sure theres a few bored millionaires out there, we need to reach them.
Feb 07 20:24:13 <Bowjob>	also, advertise on rkoi. :)
Feb 07 20:24:45 <Bugpowder>	Get Dan Tan betting on it
Feb 07 20:24:49 <Bugpowder>	then we are set
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Feb 07 20:28:25 <Bowjob>	http://hahanice.com/the-top-10-biggest-casino-losers/
Feb 07 20:28:29 <Bowjob>	we need people like those
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Feb 07 20:34:23 <Bowjob>	anyone here actually report their bitcoin earnings to govt
Feb 07 20:37:23 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/OlBhoE6.jpg
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Feb 07 20:50:33 <error4733>	<Namworld> What country is S.DICE in? None?   Irland
Feb 07 20:51:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067981 = 2.9375 BTC [+]
Feb 07 20:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3746 @ 0.00067984 = 2.5467 BTC [+]
Feb 07 20:51:34 <error4733>	for the main page, but i dunno for the script. sensitive info imo
Feb 07 20:54:47 <pigeons>	https://www.ltcasics.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=62
Feb 07 20:55:28 <Namworld>	Eh
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Feb 07 21:03:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00619998 = 15.5 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 21:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> http://i.imgur.com/OlBhoE6.jpg << you mean usd
Feb 07 21:07:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.339 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 21:10:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067979 = 2.9374 BTC [-]
Feb 07 21:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9054 @ 0.00067984 = 6.1553 BTC [+]
Feb 07 21:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00068336 = 7.4145 BTC [+]
Feb 07 21:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00068832 = 7.5371 BTC [+]
Feb 07 21:10:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2007 @ 0.00068908 = 1.383 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 21:26:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14801 @ 0.00068908 = 10.1991 BTC [+]
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Feb 07 21:38:58 <jborkl>	Mp, if you are here. Mind pushing my deposit
Feb 07 21:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067957 = 2.9364 BTC [-]
Feb 07 21:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13035 @ 0.00067943 = 8.8564 BTC [-]
Feb 07 21:43:43 <mircea_popescu>	lessee
Feb 07 21:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	all done.
Feb 07 21:44:47 <jborkl>	Thank you
Feb 07 21:44:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00067943 = 10.2594 BTC [-]
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Feb 07 21:54:02 <Bugpowder>	huh
Feb 07 21:54:14 <Bugpowder>	I thought we were topping out
Feb 07 21:54:22 <Bugpowder>	maybe not
Feb 07 21:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 07 21:55:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.33430, Best ask: 22.42005, Bid-ask spread: 0.08575, Last trade: 22.30101, 24 hour volume: 60559.49891265, 24 hour low: 20.87000, 24 hour high: 22.49989, 24 hour vwap: 21.76940
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Feb 07 21:57:38 <Bugpowder>	22.50 about to fall
Feb 07 21:58:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.0062 = 0.0248 BTC [+]
Feb 07 21:59:53 <Bowjob>	well we are going to the moob
Feb 07 21:59:55 <Bowjob>	moon
Feb 07 21:59:55 <Bowjob>	so
Feb 07 22:02:14 <Bugpowder>	moob
Feb 07 22:02:22 <Bugpowder>	is boom backwards
Feb 07 22:02:25 <Bugpowder>	!
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Feb 08 00:00:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.0007 = 0.0035 BTC
Feb 08 00:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13711 @ 0.00069031 = 9.4648 BTC [-]
Feb 08 00:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2189 @ 0.00069198 = 1.5147 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 00:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00619997 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 00:32:48 <Bowjob>	dice. why u no move price!
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Feb 08 00:34:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00069117 = 2.9029 BTC [-]
Feb 08 00:36:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.0007 = 0.0035 BTC
Feb 08 00:36:47 <Ukto>	ppl are dice'd out
Feb 08 00:37:11 <Ukto>	those of us who bought in at 0.0044 god lucky
Feb 08 00:38:11 <Bowjob>	its because that one dude cashed 700k shares
Feb 08 00:38:15 <Bowjob>	in one sitting
Feb 08 00:38:18 <Bowjob>	before erik
Feb 08 00:38:25 <Bowjob>	im sure thats not what erik wanted
Feb 08 00:39:48 <Namworld>	I bought at that price
Feb 08 00:40:11 <Bowjob>	i bought at 0.56, and 0.78 and 0.76 at havelock
Feb 08 00:40:13 <Bowjob>	feels bad
Feb 08 00:40:59 <Namworld>	What's the admin fee at Havelock?
Feb 08 00:41:04 <Bowjob>	none
Feb 08 00:41:19 <Bowjob>	well 5% of the dividends
Feb 08 00:41:24 <Bowjob>	trading is free
Feb 08 00:41:27 <Namworld>	right...
Feb 08 00:41:37 <Namworld>	So there's a fee
Feb 08 00:42:29 <Namworld>	I wonder why the high price
Feb 08 00:42:39 <Ukto>	limited shares?
Feb 08 00:42:44 <Ukto>	+ demand
Feb 08 00:43:33 <Bowjob>	plus aesthetically pleasing
Feb 08 00:43:57 <Bowjob>	and no trading fee, part of it is speculation
Feb 08 00:44:15 <Namworld>	Yeah
Feb 08 00:44:52 <Bowjob>	im just worried about the volume these days. the whole s.dice profit is from 1 guy
Feb 08 00:45:19 <Namworld>	I thought there was 2 at some point
Feb 08 00:45:38 <Bowjob>	1-2
Feb 08 00:45:48 <Bowjob>	the volume from the rest pales in comparison
Feb 08 00:46:07 <Bowjob>	if those whales dont come back this month, i have a feeling there will be tears
Feb 08 00:47:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068773 = 2.9717 BTC [-]
Feb 08 00:47:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5979 @ 0.00068752 = 4.1107 BTC [-]
Feb 08 00:48:47 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.new
Feb 08 00:49:18 <Bowjob>	whatw sthat fore
Feb 08 00:49:33 <Namworld>	graphing of SatoshiDice current performance
Feb 08 00:49:38 <Namworld>	updated regularly
Feb 08 00:50:01 <Bowjob>	im not worried about the profits, its the red line im concerned about
Feb 08 00:50:20 <Namworld>	What about it?
Feb 08 00:51:11 <Namworld>	Looks like 100-200 BTC per day raise if house edge was followed to the satoshi. Minimum.
Feb 08 00:51:20 <Bowjob>	i assume the whale stopped playing on feb 6
Feb 08 00:51:52 <Namworld>	The big amounts have always been the occasional high rollers.
Feb 08 00:52:07 <Namworld>	Without them, still a decent BTC income
Feb 08 00:53:02 <Namworld>	3-6k per month. With whales playing, add 5-15k per month
Feb 08 00:54:23 <Namworld>	S.DICE was selling for .0032-0.0037 for the first months even with negative/low months
Feb 08 00:54:38 <error4733>	no whale since end of january
Feb 08 00:54:44 <Namworld>	and it's only been 6 months of dividends received so far.
Feb 08 00:54:52 <Ukto>	well, whales ARE going extinct.. >,>
Feb 08 00:55:08 <Bowjob>	well the whale played a bit on the first few days of feb
Feb 08 00:55:14 <Bowjob>	then he ran out of coins
Feb 08 00:55:23 <error4733>	didnt notice
Feb 08 00:55:28 <Bowjob>	i wish hed tell his whale buddies with it
Feb 08 00:55:35 <Bowjob>	*about it
Feb 08 00:55:47 <Ukto>	a whoel whale family :P
Feb 08 00:55:59 <Bowjob>	well, i have this idea. advertise on rkoi
Feb 08 00:56:02 <Namworld>	He's had fun for a month with like half a million.
Feb 08 00:56:09 <Bowjob>	if anyones got a better idea, feel free
Feb 08 00:56:36 <Namworld>	There's gamblers that can lose that in a day or even more.
Feb 08 00:56:50 <Namworld>	Make them play on S.DICE
Feb 08 00:56:50 <error4733>	explaib btc to chines gambler
Feb 08 00:57:05 <Bowjob>	we need to hunt whales
Feb 08 00:57:06 <error4733>	next year !
Feb 08 00:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00069117 = 4.0433 BTC [+]
Feb 08 00:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00069197 = 2.9063 BTC [+]
Feb 08 00:57:27 <Bowjob>	well, those big whales irl sometimes do it for attention]
Feb 08 00:57:40 <Bowjob>	they get massages, and perhaps a hot chick blowing them off
Feb 08 00:58:18 <error4733>	yes but 5% house edge
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Feb 08 00:58:56 <Bowjob>	=this one is 1.9% so they should be more inclined from a financial standpoint. play longer before you lose your coin
Feb 08 00:58:58 <Namworld>	Hey... they get a huge lot of attention in here and on the forum. Tell them to come in here read.
Feb 08 00:59:57 <error4733>	i dream about a casino in Las Vegas
Feb 08 01:00:02 <error4733>	only on BTC
Feb 08 01:00:12 <error4733>	room, food, gamble
Feb 08 01:00:52 <error4733>	QR code on waitress ass for tips
Feb 08 01:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121 @ 0.00069197 = 0.0837 BTC [+]
Feb 08 01:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8121 @ 0.00069198 = 5.6196 BTC [+]
Feb 08 01:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4120 @ 0.00069215 = 2.8517 BTC [+]
Feb 08 01:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12288 @ 0.00069221 = 8.5059 BTC [+]
Feb 08 01:02:11 <Bowjob>	so my ipod touch ressurected
Feb 08 01:02:16 <Bowjob>	but i bought a new one
Feb 08 01:02:19 <Bowjob>	so i have 2 now
Feb 08 01:02:20 <error4733>	haha
Feb 08 01:02:23 <error4733>	hot sand ?
Feb 08 01:02:25 <Bowjob>	but.. my old one has water tint
Feb 08 01:02:28 <Bowjob>	nah, rice
Feb 08 01:02:33 <Bowjob>	rice treatment
Feb 08 01:02:41 <error4733>	old fashion
Feb 08 01:02:49 <Bowjob>	hot sand would make it worse
Feb 08 01:02:52 <error4733>	5 is better ?
Feb 08 01:02:54 <Bowjob>	the sand would get in
Feb 08 01:02:58 <Bowjob>	yeah 5 is def better
Feb 08 01:03:08 <Bowjob>	debating if i should keep it or not
Feb 08 01:03:09 <error4733>	bitmit ;)
Feb 08 01:03:16 <Bowjob>	for 4th gen
Feb 08 01:03:18 <Bowjob>	?
Feb 08 01:03:33 <error4733>	put the 4th on Bitmit
Feb 08 01:03:43 <Bowjob>	she went tumble drying, im surprised she made it out alive
Feb 08 01:03:57 <Bowjob>	with water and all. and also, the screen looks tinted
Feb 08 01:04:02 <Bowjob>	idk if anyone wants to buy it
Feb 08 01:04:20 <Bowjob>	ive had her for a year
Feb 08 01:05:14 <error4733>	take for 20$
Feb 08 01:06:02 <error4733>	i take it*
Feb 08 01:06:40 <Bowjob>	ill think about it
Feb 08 01:06:47 <Bowjob>	gen 5 is so good too.
Feb 08 01:06:47 <error4733>	haha
Feb 08 01:06:49 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 08 01:07:07 <Bowjob>	i tried playing temple run with 2 ipods
Feb 08 01:07:20 <Bowjob>	i cannot multitask at all, i kept failing hard
Feb 08 01:08:50 <error4733>	keep one for your car or for a cheap gift to your GF
Feb 08 01:09:09 <Bowjob>	lol wtf
Feb 08 01:09:34 <error4733>	or a kid in your familly
Feb 08 01:09:35 <error4733>	?
Feb 08 01:09:49 <error4733>	she doesnt like cheap gift ?
Feb 08 01:10:01 <Bowjob>	i dont have a gf lol
Feb 08 01:10:04 <error4733>	or it's for your BF?
Feb 08 01:10:12 <Bowjob>	no bf either
Feb 08 01:10:19 <error4733>	sorry for your loss
Feb 08 01:10:24 <Bowjob>	:/
Feb 08 01:11:45 <error4733>	ok it's a nice idea, a dating website in BTC
Feb 08 01:12:14 <Bowjob>	that cant work there are no girls on the internet
Feb 08 01:12:43 <error4733>	JPEG accepted
Feb 08 01:15:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.0007 BTC
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Feb 08 01:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068754 = 2.9709 BTC [-]
Feb 08 01:25:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10410 @ 0.00068752 = 7.1571 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 02:02:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2412 @ 0.00069221 = 1.6696 BTC [+]
Feb 08 02:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069314 = 2.9951 BTC [+]
Feb 08 02:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00069315 = 4.4708 BTC [+]
Feb 08 02:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 239 @ 0.00069339 = 0.1657 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 02:10:59 <ThickAsThieves>	$23 ask on cbx
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Feb 08 02:16:45 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: updated bid
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Feb 08 02:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1253 @ 0.00068752 = 0.8615 BTC [-]
Feb 08 02:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068675 = 2.9674 BTC [-]
Feb 08 02:25:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7026 @ 0.00068674 = 4.825 BTC [-]
Feb 08 02:30:41 <Namworld>	aye, I updated the table
Feb 08 02:31:07 <Namworld>	I'm starting to wonder if it will reach 0.45 like that other auction
Feb 08 02:32:00 <error4733>	what is the current best bid ?
Feb 08 02:33:07 <Namworld>	0.34-0.35
Feb 08 02:33:34 <Namworld>	Been 4 days out of 7
Feb 08 02:33:59 <Diablo-D3>	Sign now, get the US Attorney who hounded Aaron Swartz fired https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/fire-assistant-us-attorney-steve-heymann/RJKSY2nb
Feb 08 02:35:36 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: well, hopefully, I end up with at least some o these
Feb 08 02:41:57 <error4733>	diablo : do you belive in Darwin theory ?
Feb 08 02:45:10 <Diablo-D3>	error4733: it has sufficient evidence to be credible, yes
Feb 08 02:45:29 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 08 02:46:03 <Bowjob>	22.70
Feb 08 02:46:10 <Ukto>	error4733: do you belive in martyrism? :P
Feb 08 02:46:34 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker --last
Feb 08 02:46:34 <gribble>	22.61100
Feb 08 02:46:43 *	Ukto tries hard to make up fake words
Feb 08 02:46:44 <Diablo-D3>	;ticker
Feb 08 02:46:49 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 08 02:46:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.61101, Best ask: 22.69990, Bid-ask spread: 0.08889, Last trade: 22.61100, 24 hour volume: 60021.57373953, 24 hour low: 21.20000, 24 hour high: 22.70000, 24 hour vwap: 21.99549
Feb 08 02:51:38 <error4733>	Ukto:Yes in some extrem case. when all the country is in trouble. Not just you
Feb 08 02:52:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.635 = 12.7 BTC [-]
Feb 08 02:52:47 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: btw, are you going to ask friedcat to transfer those shares to me before the first dividend?
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Feb 08 03:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00068674 = 7.1078 BTC [-]
Feb 08 03:02:12 <Namworld>	Yes. If he can't I'll just push dividends until his platform is done
Feb 08 03:04:01 <Namworld>	I'm just very sad to not have all I had in the beggining
Feb 08 03:04:17 <Bowjob>	http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/blogs/insight/vancouver-ranked-north-america-priciest-city-155659088.html
Feb 08 03:04:26 <Bowjob>	bah, most exp city?
Feb 08 03:11:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0062 BTC [+]
Feb 08 03:11:13 <Diablo-D3>	shittiest city maybe
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Feb 08 03:11:30 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: someone bid again lol
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Feb 08 03:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5661 @ 0.00069339 = 3.9253 BTC [+]
Feb 08 03:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069387 = 2.9982 BTC [+]
Feb 08 03:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8168 @ 0.00069388 = 5.6676 BTC [+]
Feb 08 03:16:28 <Namworld>	I'll wait a bit
Feb 08 03:16:33 <Namworld>	Before updating again
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Feb 08 03:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00619997 = 12.3999 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 03:52:21 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: okay, Im going to be a dick.
Feb 08 03:53:27 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I have now outbid everyone. Lets see what they do now.
Feb 08 03:55:13 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: you may now update the table.
Feb 08 03:56:43 <Namworld>	.01 minimum increment as per op
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Feb 08 03:56:54 <Diablo-D3>	but theres one that isnt in there
Feb 08 03:57:28 <Namworld>	?
Feb 08 03:57:43 <Diablo-D3>	HorseRider	696	0.185
Feb 08 03:58:45 <Namworld>	oh, but it was more than 0.01 raise, it's just a minimum increment
Feb 08 03:58:52 <Diablo-D3>	damnit
Feb 08 03:59:25 <Namworld>	At this rate 0.36 will be outbid too anyway
Feb 08 03:59:32 <Diablo-D3>	there I did 0.36
Feb 08 03:59:57 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: yeah, but lets see if they do it
Feb 08 04:00:44 <Diablo-D3>	I think what Im going to do is award myself x shares equiv in what I spent in a special b class of shares
Feb 08 04:00:48 <Diablo-D3>	ie, they dont pay dividends
Feb 08 04:01:06 <Diablo-D3>	so about 6264 shares
Feb 08 04:01:13 <Diablo-D3>	and I will never buy them back.
Feb 08 04:01:45 <Namworld>	I'm not really following you
Feb 08 04:01:57 <Diablo-D3>	as in, Im giving these shares to DMC
Feb 08 04:02:58 <Namworld>	Ah, I see
Feb 08 04:03:38 <Diablo-D3>	so, class b shares, no dividends, will be bought back last.
Feb 08 04:03:40 <Diablo-D3>	I think that works.
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Feb 08 04:08:38 <error4733>	With this Luck you will win the Jackpot pretty soon!
Feb 08 04:08:53 <error4733>	that what i got on my losing ticket for bitmillions
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Feb 08 04:31:48 <Namworld>	The asset market is dead... I guess everyone spent everything on S.DICE
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Feb 08 04:37:56 <EskimoBob>	Namworld: now imagine the fun of exiting from this one stock
Feb 08 04:38:17 <Namworld>	Well most seem to be holding to it anyway
Feb 08 04:38:43 <EskimoBob>	until first freaks out...
Feb 08 04:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00610421 = 5.799 BTC [-]
Feb 08 04:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6100 @ 0.00610177 = 37.2208 BTC [-]
Feb 08 04:42:36 <Namworld>	Eh
Feb 08 04:48:40 <error4733>	in b4 whale and -25K
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Feb 08 05:28:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.63999998 = 6.4 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 05:33:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.3498 = 2.4486 BTC [+]
Feb 08 05:33:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.63999999 = 11.52 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 05:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006908 = 2.9849 BTC [-]
Feb 08 05:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6679 @ 0.00069069 = 4.6131 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 05:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00069069 = 1.5195 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 06:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9597 @ 0.00069069 = 6.6286 BTC [-]
Feb 08 06:05:41 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 08 06:05:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.01034, Best ask: 22.20710, Bid-ask spread: 0.19676, Last trade: 22.20710, 24 hour volume: 70255.99560006, 24 hour low: 21.20000, 24 hour high: 22.70000, 24 hour vwap: 22.05540
Feb 08 06:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1778 @ 0.00069069 = 1.228 BTC [-]
Feb 08 06:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3724 @ 0.00068674 = 2.5574 BTC [-]
Feb 08 06:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068262 = 3.4131 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 06:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8948 @ 0.00068261 = 6.108 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 06:12:08 <Bowjob>	so guys, I picked up SFxTekken today
Feb 08 06:12:10 <Bowjob>	this is the result
Feb 08 06:12:11 <Bowjob>	http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/882973581818863296/60D07ACD017B2B2DD8BFF41EAA81B4661F0308B6/
Feb 08 06:12:21 <Bowjob>	I play Blanka btw
Feb 08 06:12:54 <Bowjob>	I fought against 2 japanese players simultaneously, I felt like a god in that game.
Feb 08 06:33:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069273 = 2.9933 BTC [+]
Feb 08 06:33:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15179 @ 0.0006928 = 10.516 BTC [+]
Feb 08 06:35:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.63999999 = 1.28 BTC [+]
Feb 08 06:36:57 <error4733>	;;ticker
Feb 08 06:36:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.28298, Best ask: 22.38999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10701, Last trade: 22.28298, 24 hour volume: 70473.05840366, 24 hour low: 21.20000, 24 hour high: 22.70000, 24 hour vwap: 22.06000
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Feb 08 06:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4452 @ 0.00068261 = 3.039 BTC [-]
Feb 08 06:46:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067998 = 2.9382 BTC [-]
Feb 08 06:46:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22177 @ 0.00067997 = 15.0797 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 06:59:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069269 = 2.9931 BTC [+]
Feb 08 06:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9629 @ 0.0006928 = 6.671 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 07:13:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068613 = 2.9648 BTC [-]
Feb 08 07:13:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00068584 = 3.552 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 07:53:41 <EskimoBob>	"error4733 | in b4 whale and -25K " < ?
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Feb 08 07:58:56 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
Feb 08 08:01:04 <BitHub>	hi
Feb 08 08:01:50 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 08 08:02:07 <Chaang-Noi>	Nefario been around?
Feb 08 08:02:17 <jurov>	hello, nope
Feb 08 08:02:31 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 08 08:02:58 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Feb 08 08:02:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.46198, Best ask: 22.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03802, Last trade: 22.46198, 24 hour volume: 69929.36719655, 24 hour low: 21.25000, 24 hour high: 22.70000, 24 hour vwap: 22.07695
Feb 08 08:03:03 <Chaang-Noi>	not bad eh
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Feb 08 08:05:27 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone here a member of the bitcoin foundation?
Feb 08 08:07:19 <sgornick>	Chaang-Noi: Just member?   Ya, I am.
Feb 08 08:07:32 <EskimoBob>	Look who's back in town! Chaang-Noi
Feb 08 08:09:51 <EskimoBob>	"bitcoin foundation" wtf is that? Ok, I recall, collecting money for the development of btc client
Feb 08 08:10:36 <BitHub>	What are the benefits of becoming a foundation member?
Feb 08 08:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	not much. you don' even get a badge.
Feb 08 08:12:34 <BitHub>	oh :(
Feb 08 08:13:08 <BitHub>	i just purchased some shares in some btc companies :)
Feb 08 08:14:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i would like to know about the forum on the foundation, is it helpful or dead? thanks
Feb 08 08:15:45 <Chaang-Noi>	hi Eskimobob yeah been away but been working:)
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Feb 08 08:16:59 <Chaang-Noi>	zup giga, hows it going?
Feb 08 08:18:05 <sgornick>	I'm not too active on it but it has topics that have a fair amount of discussion and others that get either replies like "don't know" , etc.
Feb 08 08:18:52 <sgornick>	Chaang-Noi: But there are some conversations there that don't occur elsewhere so I make sure to check in on it ... something I'm past due on doing.
Feb 08 08:19:27 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Feb 08 08:19:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i have sent over 100 btc on the other forum but not sure if i should pay the 2.5 for the other forum...
Feb 08 08:19:44 <sgornick>	(especially since I accepted the invite to be a mod)
Feb 08 08:19:45 <Chaang-Noi>	i think i might...
Feb 08 08:19:54 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 08 08:20:30 <Chaang-Noi>	well if i join ill send you a message and see how long it takes you to respond :)
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Feb 08 08:24:51 <gigavps>	it's a Goat
Feb 08 08:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00068584 = 4.3894 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 08:38:35 <Diablo-D3>	heh namworld left
Feb 08 08:38:48 <Chaang-Noi>	sure is giga, hows it been?
Feb 08 08:39:01 <Diablo-D3>	wait, holy shit, its goat
Feb 08 08:39:04 <Diablo-D3>	you came back from exile
Feb 08 08:39:13 <Chaang-Noi>	you going to get massive bfl soon?
Feb 08 08:39:27 <Chaang-Noi>	lol D3, i was never exiled here
Feb 08 08:39:31 <Chaang-Noi>	iv just been busy:)
Feb 08 08:39:35 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Feb 08 08:41:17 <gigavps>	BFL receives the chips into the bumping facility on monday
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Feb 08 08:41:47 <Chaang-Noi>	brb, need to raid a shop in KC :)
Feb 08 08:41:48 <gigavps>	they are only 4 months late, what's another couple weeks
Feb 08 08:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	i have ehard that one before.
Feb 08 08:42:14 <Chaang-Noi>	as long as they are more or less first it does not really matter
Feb 08 08:42:31 <Chaang-Noi>	well it does matter, but huge damage wont be done.
Feb 08 08:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	they're already at most second Chaang-Noi
Feb 08 08:42:41 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu, we already know your opinions, no need to repeat yourself
Feb 08 08:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps who's the "we" backing you ?
Feb 08 08:43:06 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, but i dont really count 2 60 ghs asics as much of anything, it wont make a dent in profitability
Feb 08 08:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it depends how quick the chinese move.
Feb 08 08:43:24 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu, i have employees
Feb 08 08:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	they did get good reviews on the chinese boards, so
Feb 08 08:43:31 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu, i have Gigaminers
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Feb 08 08:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	it may spark a little fizz in there.
Feb 08 08:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps so far you have debts. stop inflating yourself i won't have to slap you back into shape.
Feb 08 08:43:55 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, the chinese might make a dent, might not. we will see
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Feb 08 08:44:11 <Chaang-Noi>	man, no love lost here, lol
Feb 08 08:44:16 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu, i'm sorry you can't see past your own nose
Feb 08 08:44:18 <Chaang-Noi>	what did i miss in the last month?
Feb 08 08:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps how;s amazingrando doing these days ?
Feb 08 08:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	i recall you were pushing him
Feb 08 08:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	much like you were pushing piratein the day
Feb 08 08:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	are you a scammer gigavps ?
Feb 08 08:44:56 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu, i wish you knew what you were talking about
Feb 08 08:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	o rly ?
Feb 08 08:45:14 <gigavps>	but it ok, i'll excuse your ignorance
Feb 08 08:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	tell you what. excuse my ignorance in silence i'll excuse your scammy existence.
Feb 08 08:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	should be something you can follow.
Feb 08 08:45:43 <gigavps>	lol
Feb 08 08:46:14 <mircea_popescu>	dumbass needs to learn when it's time to say sorry and stfu.
Feb 08 08:46:20 <mircea_popescu>	hint : it's when i say stfu or you're getting it.
Feb 08 08:46:28 <gigavps>	getting what?
Feb 08 08:46:54 <Chaang-Noi>	giga do you hold any/much ltc?
Feb 08 08:47:00 <gigavps>	Chaang-Noi, no
Feb 08 08:47:04 <Chaang-Noi>	ok, thanks
Feb 08 08:48:03 <Chaang-Noi>	mircea, what do you have aginst giga? iv been away so i really dont know what is going on.
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Feb 08 08:49:39 <gigavps>	i think mircea_popescu isn't feeling well today
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Feb 08 08:50:24 <Chaang-Noi>	well, if he is going to make an attack he should at least back it up if asked about it...
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Feb 08 08:51:46 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe he is just upset at bfl and is taking it out on you? i jumped in when bfl was brought up...
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Feb 08 08:53:43 <Chaang-Noi>	the new btc high today was pretty nice to see
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Feb 08 08:59:10 <Chaang-Noi>	what the hell happened to #bitcoin-watch it now has transactions not price quotes???
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Feb 08 09:01:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.63999999 = 1.92 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 09:03:02 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh, assbat is still alive i see, but damn, not much trading...
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Feb 08 09:03:30 <ThickAsThieves>	been slow this week because SDICE releases 3mil more shares
Feb 08 09:03:30 <mjr_>	hi
Feb 08 09:03:43 <ThickAsThieves>	so everyone was diving into that
Feb 08 09:03:49 <ThickAsThieves>	now they are calm
Feb 08 09:04:00 <ThickAsThieves>	released*
Feb 08 09:04:03 <Chaang-Noi>	sdice has been more popular than i expected, however i still expect tears before this is over
Feb 08 09:04:18 <ThickAsThieves>	what do you think will happen
Feb 08 09:04:47 <gigavps>	government intervention
Feb 08 09:05:14 <gigavps>	promoters of gambling with btc will probably go to jail
Feb 08 09:05:20 <gigavps>	the US doesn't care where you are
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Feb 08 09:05:53 <gigavps>	any business strategy that does not include government compliance will end in failure
Feb 08 09:05:55 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont buy that
Feb 08 09:06:20 <gigavps>	maybe mircea_popescu should add that to his list of btc business starting tips
Feb 08 09:06:29 <ThickAsThieves>	that works on the premise that bitcoin is first classified as illegal
Feb 08 09:06:39 <ThickAsThieves>	and also,
Feb 08 09:06:40 <gigavps>	i don't believe so
Feb 08 09:06:56 <gigavps>	any movement of value will eventually be classified and regulated
Feb 08 09:06:57 <ThickAsThieves>	assumes the gov cares more about gambling bitcoin, than those who exchange it for fiat
Feb 08 09:06:58 <Chaang-Noi>	the govt has gone hard core after people gambling in the usa
Feb 08 09:07:16 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice is an irish co
Feb 08 09:07:17 <Chaang-Noi>	they ahve even redirected planes into the usa to arrest people
Feb 08 09:07:21 <ThickAsThieves>	dealing strictly in btc
Feb 08 09:07:34 <Chaang-Noi>	the person on that flight was not american, was not going to the usa, and did not ahve a company in the usa
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Feb 08 09:07:35 <gigavps>	the US gov has gone after internet gambling businesses the world over
Feb 08 09:07:42 <Chaang-Noi>	he is in a usa jail for atleast 10 years
Feb 08 09:07:44 <pigeons>	yeah a guy just went to jail the other week for writing gambling software for a country where it is legal
Feb 08 09:07:56 <gigavps>	pigeons, link?
Feb 08 09:08:01 <pigeons>	one sec
Feb 08 09:08:27 <pigeons>	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/01/coder-charged-for-gambling-software/
Feb 08 09:08:31 <ThickAsThieves>	CampBX or Dwolla are nice targets for the US giv
Feb 08 09:08:34 <ThickAsThieves>	gov*
Feb 08 09:08:38 <Chaang-Noi>	also look forward to the link :/    it is sad really, what if the govt goes this hard core aginst btc as it does gambling in other countires...
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Feb 08 09:09:26 <ThickAsThieves>	oh yeah, and dont forget their little Silk Road problem
Feb 08 09:09:39 <gigavps>	pigeons, thanks for the link
Feb 08 09:09:56 <pigeons>	yeah it was kind of big news cause it kind of steps over a new line
Feb 08 09:09:59 <Chaang-Noi>	silk road will be ahrd to catch, however the bitcoin foundation wont :/
Feb 08 09:10:04 <gigavps>	as you can see from that article, you don't even need to be the one who uses the software for gambling!
Feb 08 09:10:20 <gigavps>	fireduck could be put in jail just for writing sdice
Feb 08 09:10:36 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder if anyone who holds a btc that was onces used for gambling will have to go to jail :/
Feb 08 09:10:49 <gigavps>	erik could be put in jail just for promoting sdice
Feb 08 09:11:07 <gigavps>	and people wonder why i have a claims process
Feb 08 09:11:16 <pigeons>	give me your bitcoins and they've give you amnesty
Feb 08 09:11:18 <Chaang-Noi>	you know they will notice a site that made over a million in its first year :/
Feb 08 09:11:32 <ThickAsThieves>	it's all possible, i just think they will prioritize attacking other aspects of bitcoin
Feb 08 09:11:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i only have 8 left pigeons :)
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Feb 08 09:11:51 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice has made $0
Feb 08 09:12:36 <gigavps>	ThickAsThieves, it doesn't matter, i bet we'll soon see interpretations of the law such that it won't matter what you are gambling
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Feb 08 09:13:03 <gigavps>	could be bitcoins, dollars, amazon coins, whatever
Feb 08 09:13:11 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i dont know... it will be intersting, i hope the us govt ignores it, buit i bet they wont forever
Feb 08 09:13:46 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm sure they arent ignoring it, the question is how will they appraoch it all
Feb 08 09:13:59 <ThickAsThieves>	what they should do,
Feb 08 09:14:07 <ThickAsThieves>	is make a comepting digital currency
Feb 08 09:14:08 <DeadWeasel>	considering their tendency to ignore real problems and go after non-issues makes me think it will happen
Feb 08 09:14:09 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, what can they do
Feb 08 09:14:15 <DeadWeasel>	when, who knows
Feb 08 09:14:22 <ThickAsThieves>	and then each country uses their own cryptocurrency or such
Feb 08 09:14:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i would have said they could not do much about gambling in other countires as well but....
Feb 08 09:14:38 <ThickAsThieves>	then they can keep control be sheer popularity over btc
Feb 08 09:14:49 <ThickAsThieves>	be=by*
Feb 08 09:14:52 <BitHub>	Hello
Feb 08 09:15:00 <BitHub>	where can i buy some ASICMINER shares?
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Feb 08 09:15:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8591 @ 0.00068861 = 5.9158 BTC [+]
Feb 08 09:15:29 <ThickAsThieves>	if they had their own coin (us gov) they could strictly manage taxes, etc
Feb 08 09:15:59 <ThickAsThieves>	that would put laws regarding crypto currencies on the book, and then they could illegalize btc
Feb 08 09:16:00 <pigeons>	they can do it with this one
Feb 08 09:16:06 <ThickAsThieves>	(thinking out loud sry)
Feb 08 09:16:38 <pigeons>	its a public ledger, they can manage taxes etc as you say
Feb 08 09:16:47 <gigavps>	ThickAsThieves, i don't think btc would be made illegal
Feb 08 09:17:21 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone want to buy my claim for 4,100 asic miner shares? :)
Feb 08 09:17:30 <DeadWeasel>	this guy encrypted his home folder with 100BTC in wallet, now about his password:  [09:16] <lolcat> jrib: Uhm, I figured Id probably never need it
Feb 08 09:17:30 <TomServo>	tw0b3low
Feb 08 09:17:48 <DeadWeasel>	$2000 mistake, lolcat
Feb 08 09:17:48 <gigavps>	not good
Feb 08 09:18:02 <DeadWeasel>	i was trying to help him last night, but there is no help to be had.
Feb 08 09:18:17 <DeadWeasel>	he literally has NO CLUE what it was, thought he was entering noise or something.
Feb 08 09:18:25 <DeadWeasel>	kinda sad
Feb 08 09:18:30 <DeadWeasel>	but he will NEVER make that mistake again, i hope
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Feb 08 09:20:08 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah... btc is not ready for the masses :(
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Feb 08 09:20:55 <pigeons>	https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/PUNT
Feb 08 09:22:17 <ThickAsThieves>	where do i sign?
Feb 08 09:22:22 <Chaang-Noi>	what am i looking at pigeons?
Feb 08 09:22:35 <ThickAsThieves>	look at the contract
Feb 08 09:23:36 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Feb 08 09:25:03 <thestringpuller>	I'll pay dividends whenever I feel like it.
Feb 08 09:25:04 <thestringpuller>	I won't be issuing any financial statements at all.
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Feb 08 09:26:10 <ThickAsThieves>	at first i thought it was some kind of mutual fund
Feb 08 09:26:19 <imsaguy>	<DeadWeasel> he literally has NO CLUE what it was, thought he was entering noise or something. << I'm calling BS. When you put in passwords today, you have to confirm it.
Feb 08 09:26:28 <imsaguy>	Random noise won't require you to type it exactly the same twice.
Feb 08 09:26:51 <DeadWeasel>	go to #ubuntu, talk to lolcat
Feb 08 09:27:05 <DeadWeasel>	[09:17] <lolcat> a $2000 mistake :/
Feb 08 09:27:12 <imsaguy>	oh right, people on irc don't lie.
Feb 08 09:27:13 <imsaguy>	I forgot.
Feb 08 09:27:37 <DeadWeasel>	i'm just the messenger
Feb 08 09:27:54 <thestringpuller>	imsaguy: the other half of S2CM lol
Feb 08 09:28:00 <thestringpuller>	haven't seen you in awhile
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Feb 08 09:30:08 <pigeons>	"I reserve the right to spend raised funds on anything that I feel like be that
Feb 08 09:30:11 <pigeons>	gambling on LTC Arcade or playing games, Litecoin gaming and simply a flutter down
Feb 08 09:30:14 <pigeons>	the racetrack."
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Feb 08 09:31:18 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, im not sure why that is even listed
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Feb 08 09:45:45 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: sending coin to forums? I have a better idea. Why don't you buy back my PPT shares :)
Feb 08 09:46:01 <EskimoBob>	at least it's coin well spent
Feb 08 09:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 25072 @ 0.00614999 = 154.1925 BTC [+]
Feb 08 09:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9928 @ 0.00615 = 61.0572 BTC [+]
Feb 08 09:50:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 350 @ 0.635 = 222.25 BTC [-]
Feb 08 09:52:05 <BitHub>	asicminer shares?
Feb 08 09:52:10 <BitHub>	mr assbot
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Feb 08 09:53:29 <DeadWeasel>	nobody talks
Feb 08 09:53:46 *	DeadWeasel types in the wrong field
Feb 08 09:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 72 @ 0.00615 = 0.4428 BTC [+]
Feb 08 09:56:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6928 @ 0.00619997 = 42.9534 BTC [+]
Feb 08 09:57:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 70 @ 0.635 = 44.45 BTC [-]
Feb 08 10:08:49 <DeadWeasel>	penny bot is pointing down again.
Feb 08 10:11:39 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, what is this penny bot i have heard of?
Feb 08 10:11:53 <JWU_42>	Holy Moses - a Goat sighting
Feb 08 10:11:57 <JWU_42>	=)
Feb 08 10:12:59 <DeadWeasel>	bot that sells .01 BTC regularly, either above or below the current price, to put upward or downward pressure on the market price
Feb 08 10:13:01 <DeadWeasel>	i think
Feb 08 10:13:05 <DeadWeasel>	please correct me
Feb 08 10:13:30 <DeadWeasel>	anyone use goxsh or toyTrader?
Feb 08 10:13:34 <Anduck>	suo
Feb 08 10:13:34 <Anduck>	sup
Feb 08 10:13:37 <Anduck>	0.4 for asicminer
Feb 08 10:13:41 <Anduck>	what is this
Feb 08 10:14:29 <DeadWeasel>	this is dog
Feb 08 10:14:33 <Anduck>	hi dog
Feb 08 10:14:43 <DeadWeasel>	ruff
Feb 08 10:14:47 <Anduck>	mmmm
Feb 08 10:15:53 <JWU_42>	hey dog
Feb 08 10:15:58 <JWU_42>	Mooo
Feb 08 10:16:31 <kakobreklaa>	moo is cow.
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Feb 08 10:16:40 <kakobreklaa>	gives milk.
Feb 08 10:16:42 <DeadWeasel>	grrrrrr
Feb 08 10:16:47 <DeadWeasel>	steak
Feb 08 10:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00069298 = 14.8991 BTC [+]
Feb 08 10:17:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069297 = 2.9943 BTC [-]
Feb 08 10:17:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6887 @ 0.00069455 = 4.7834 BTC [+]
Feb 08 10:17:20 <DeadWeasel>	is it unethical to install a mouse mover on my work machine while I'm workng from home during this snowpacalypse?
Feb 08 10:17:25 <DeadWeasel>	because i did
Feb 08 10:17:35 <DeadWeasel>	:P
Feb 08 10:17:48 <kakobreklaa>	:(
Feb 08 10:17:48 <kakobreklaa>	:)
Feb 08 10:17:53 <kakobreklaa>	later
Feb 08 10:17:55 <DeadWeasel>	adios
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Feb 08 10:18:18 <topace>	DeadWeasel: lol nice
Feb 08 10:18:43 <topace>	i built one of those out of lego, back in the day... there was ad companies that you installed the ads on your homepage, and as long as you were using the computer you got paid
Feb 08 10:18:51 <DeadWeasel>	i'm mean,i'm just a monkey QA tester.  so I'm essentially working
Feb 08 10:18:55 <DeadWeasel>	awesome!
Feb 08 10:19:03 <topace>	err not your home page, right abvoe the start menu on windows
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Feb 08 10:19:11 <DeadWeasel>	Like homer with the that pecking bird toy thing
Feb 08 10:19:18 <topace>	used to pull in like $50/month from it
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Feb 08 10:19:33 <topace>	on university student budget, thats a lot of beer!
Feb 08 10:19:59 <DeadWeasel>	almost enough!
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Feb 08 10:26:01 <Chaang-Noi>	hi JWU_42  :)
Feb 08 10:26:25 <DeadWeasel>	getting sierra charts working in wine on 64bit nix is annoying me
Feb 08 10:26:32 <DeadWeasel>	any ideas?
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Feb 08 10:32:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 663 @ 0.00069455 = 0.4605 BTC [+]
Feb 08 10:32:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069461 = 3.4731 BTC [+]
Feb 08 10:32:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10887 @ 0.00069462 = 7.5623 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 10:34:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45 @ 0.00069 = 0.0311 BTC [-]
Feb 08 10:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00068973 = 3.0693 BTC [-]
Feb 08 10:34:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2648 @ 0.00068861 = 1.8234 BTC [-]
Feb 08 10:35:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 512 @ 0.00068861 = 0.3526 BTC [-]
Feb 08 10:35:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068585 = 2.9636 BTC [-]
Feb 08 10:36:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12708 @ 0.00068584 = 8.7157 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 10:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3486823&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=379
Feb 08 10:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol @sa ppl trying to not notice they got owned.
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Feb 08 10:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel that's the best .5 btc i ever spent :D
Feb 08 10:44:04 <Anduck>	hmmmm
Feb 08 10:44:10 <Anduck>	has mnw been on irc?
Feb 08 10:45:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069431 = 3.0001 BTC [+]
Feb 08 10:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4229 @ 0.00069462 = 2.9375 BTC [+]
Feb 08 10:45:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.002 BTC [+]
Feb 08 10:46:01 <Chaang-Noi>	mircea lol wtf!
Feb 08 10:47:03 <DeadWeasel>	mircea_popescu: glad to help!
Feb 08 10:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	;)
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Feb 08 10:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq_cn.html
Feb 08 10:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone knows chiense please give that a look let me know if anything is broken
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Feb 08 10:57:26 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu: it's in chinese
Feb 08 10:57:30 <jcpham>	i think it is broken
Feb 08 10:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068609 = 2.9646 BTC [-]
Feb 08 10:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 08 10:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12757 @ 0.00068584 = 8.7493 BTC [-]
Feb 08 10:57:50 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Feb 08 11:05:58 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: do you want me to do the FAQ in spanish?
Feb 08 11:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Feb 08 11:06:33 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: I'll try to have it for monday.
Feb 08 11:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool
Feb 08 11:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	what i'd really like is for someone to do it in farsi
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Feb 08 11:14:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.63999999 = 3.84 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 11:15:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 5 @ 0.002 = 0.01 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 11:19:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8485 @ 0.00619997 = 52.6067 BTC [+]
Feb 08 11:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1515 @ 0.00619998 = 9.393 BTC [+]
Feb 08 11:19:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 72 @ 0.63999999 = 46.08 BTC [+]
Feb 08 11:19:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 28 @ 0.635 = 17.78 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:20:05 <DeadWeasel>	farsi would be sweet.
Feb 08 11:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00619998 = 61.9998 BTC [+]
Feb 08 11:20:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 32 @ 0.635 = 20.32 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:20:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.626 = 18.78 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:20:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.62500001 = 12.5 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:20:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.625 = 5 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:20:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.62 = 6.2 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	haha nice arbing going on
Feb 08 11:21:35 <topace>	yea :) its the easiest way to grow the size of sdice on havelock
Feb 08 11:21:44 <topace>	wait for bids, then fill them
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Feb 08 11:23:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068762 = 2.9712 BTC [+]
Feb 08 11:23:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35679 @ 0.0006877 = 24.5364 BTC [+]
Feb 08 11:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	soundsl ike a plan
Feb 08 11:24:54 <topace>	and i make a few btc off the arb :)
Feb 08 11:25:11 <topace>	but hey, its a manual process
Feb 08 11:25:17 <topace>	though i suppose i could bot it up
Feb 08 11:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.06835702 = 68.357 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:26:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P210T] 750 @ 0.08441671 = 63.3125 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:26:13 <topace>	havelock is growing quickly
Feb 08 11:26:22 <topace>	S.DICE x 851`000
Feb 08 11:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	what is it half a mil ?
Feb 08 11:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	a, almost a mil by now. nice.
Feb 08 11:27:05 <topace>	13 mil on mpex now?
Feb 08 11:27:33 <mircea_popescu>	something like that
Feb 08 11:27:34 <topace>	6.5462%
Feb 08 11:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	the unsold 1mn is 4th or 3rd ?
Feb 08 11:27:47 <topace>	i think 3rd
Feb 08 11:27:55 <topace>	44, 55, 62
Feb 08 11:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	so then 12mn
Feb 08 11:28:34 <topace>	ah right
Feb 08 11:29:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00619997 = 6.2 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9000 @ 0.00619998 = 55.7998 BTC [+]
Feb 08 11:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	even if manual it's not really so bad, one command line sort of thing
Feb 08 11:30:17 <topace>	yea
Feb 08 11:30:27 <topace>	not making much off the arb now though on these ones... but its worth it just to move it over
Feb 08 11:30:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.62000001 = 4.34 BTC [+]
Feb 08 11:30:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 93 @ 0.62 = 57.66 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:30:43 <topace>	i still have 30000 bids on havelock at 0.62
Feb 08 11:30:48 <topace>	(300 units)
Feb 08 11:31:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00619998 = 61.9998 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 11:32:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 100 @ 0.62 = 62 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:32:44 <topace>	keeps the prices pretty much in sync too
Feb 08 11:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	market efficiency
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Feb 08 11:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00619998 = 61.9998 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 11:34:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 100 @ 0.62 = 62 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:36:24 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 08 11:36:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.61000000 / 0.63021172 / 0.63999999 (1058 shares, 666.76399880 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.64791661 / 0.88000000 (6816 shares, 4416.19958045 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.63097449 / 0.89000000 (10432 shares, 6582.32583140 BTC)
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Feb 08 11:38:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5794 @ 0.0006877 = 3.9845 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 11:42:20 <DeadWeasel>	anybody used AidoATP program?
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Feb 08 11:42:31 <DeadWeasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109831.0
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Feb 08 11:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	java seems dubious.
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Feb 08 11:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068597 = 2.9641 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16132 @ 0.00068584 = 11.064 BTC [-]
Feb 08 11:50:49 <thestringpuller>	java is lame
Feb 08 11:51:37 <topace>	mircea_popescu: process my deposit please?
Feb 08 11:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	done.
Feb 08 11:52:21 <topace>	merci!
Feb 08 11:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00619998 = 30.9999 BTC [+]
Feb 08 11:53:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.63 = 14.49 BTC [+]
Feb 08 11:53:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.621 = 9.936 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 12:14:05 <Anduck>	mmm
Feb 08 12:14:16 <Anduck>	mpex being worth more than mtgox???
Feb 08 12:14:19 <Anduck>	what bs is that
Feb 08 12:14:33 <Anduck>	i think glbse was worth more than mpex !
Feb 08 12:14:51 <Anduck>	right, mircea_popescu?
Feb 08 12:15:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6300 @ 0.00619998 = 39.0599 BTC [+]
Feb 08 12:16:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3124 @ 0.00068584 = 2.1426 BTC [-]
Feb 08 12:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00068575 = 6.0346 BTC [-]
Feb 08 12:16:22 <Anduck>	i were reading some oldish topic on btctalk
Feb 08 12:16:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1112 @ 0.00067997 = 0.7561 BTC [-]
Feb 08 12:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067966 = 6.7966 BTC [-]
Feb 08 12:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1414 @ 0.00067965 = 0.961 BTC [-]
Feb 08 12:16:51 <BitHub>	is mpex good?
Feb 08 12:17:02 <Anduck>	ui is horribad
Feb 08 12:17:05 <BitHub>	i'm trying bitfunder atm
Feb 08 12:17:18 <Anduck>	mpex seems to be ok still
Feb 08 12:17:39 <Anduck>	when colored coin system comes out it'll all be fixed
Feb 08 12:18:03 <BitHub>	can i ask you guys something? would you guys invest in rastapool mining?
Feb 08 12:18:08 <Anduck>	n o
Feb 08 12:18:11 <Anduck>	never heard
Feb 08 12:18:13 <Anduck>	what is it
Feb 08 12:18:21 <ThickAsThieves>	JAH
Feb 08 12:18:24 <ThickAsThieves>	I looked at it
Feb 08 12:18:25 <Anduck>	but no i wouldnt even if i had heard of it
Feb 08 12:18:37 <ThickAsThieves>	but investing in mining is tricky with ASICS coming
Feb 08 12:18:37 <BitHub>	What you think Thick?
Feb 08 12:18:45 <BitHub>	ya
Feb 08 12:18:50 <ThickAsThieves>	the returns are nice
Feb 08 12:18:56 <ThickAsThieves>	but when asics hit
Feb 08 12:18:58 <BitHub>	i'm guessing he didn't get any avalons
Feb 08 12:19:11 <BitHub>	but he does have shares in the "ASICMINER"
Feb 08 12:19:13 <ThickAsThieves>	shares will plummet if they dont get ASICS in the first week they hit hard
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Feb 08 12:19:33 <BitHub>	hmmm
Feb 08 12:19:50 <ThickAsThieves>	which means you'd be stuick in the stock til rasta invested enough to be on track and got his deliveries
Feb 08 12:20:01 <ThickAsThieves>	stuick=stock
Feb 08 12:20:05 <ThickAsThieves>	stuck*
Feb 08 12:20:07 <ThickAsThieves>	bleh
Feb 08 12:20:40 <BitHub>	i wish i could buy some ASICMINING shares myself
Feb 08 12:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1127 @ 0.0006877 = 0.775 BTC [+]
Feb 08 12:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069461 = 3.0014 BTC [+]
Feb 08 12:20:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9459 @ 0.00069462 = 6.5704 BTC [+]
Feb 08 12:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13271 @ 0.00069523 = 9.2264 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 12:20:53 <ThickAsThieves>	they have some for bid in a forum thread somewhere i think
Feb 08 12:21:04 <BitHub>	hmm yeah
Feb 08 12:21:10 <BitHub>	just waiting a bit
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Feb 08 12:21:38 <ThickAsThieves>	Are you in MPOE?
Feb 08 12:21:49 <BitHub>	mpoe?
Feb 08 12:22:10 <ThickAsThieves>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MPOE
Feb 08 12:22:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.62 = 3.1 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 12:26:05 <BitHub>	true, yeah thinking to use mpex or not
Feb 08 12:26:08 <BitHub>	are they legal?
Feb 08 12:28:17 <ThickAsThieves>	Is bitcoin investing legal?
Feb 08 12:28:24 <ThickAsThieves>	no idea
Feb 08 12:28:46 <ThickAsThieves>	this is all risky stuff
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Feb 08 12:30:16 <BitHub>	haha yeah true
Feb 08 12:30:27 <BitHub>	hope they dont get closed down
Feb 08 12:34:57 <leotreasure>	i'm checking it out with lawyer in Australia
Feb 08 12:35:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 51 @ 0.0098 = 0.4998 BTC [-]
Feb 08 12:35:11 <leotreasure>	just registered the domain bitcoin-legal.org
Feb 08 12:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	<Anduck> i think glbse was worth more than mpex ! << no.
Feb 08 12:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	glbse was worth something between nothing and 3% of mpex.
Feb 08 12:38:11 <leotreasure>	also made another legal thread interpreting bitcoin definition: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141942.0
Feb 08 12:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	leotreasure : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/
Feb 08 12:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's all in there. bitcoin is exactly what wow gold is.
Feb 08 12:40:44 <jurov>	i'm *so* done with bitvps
Feb 08 12:41:06 <jurov>	if anyone asks about coinbr, they messed it up again
Feb 08 12:41:09 <leotreasure>	thanks mircea_popescu will read it tomorrow it's nearly 5 in the morning now :)
Feb 08 12:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	hehe no rush, been there for what, half a year now
Feb 08 12:41:37 <mircea_popescu>	it'll wait a day
Feb 08 12:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	jurov what happened ?
Feb 08 12:42:17 <iz>	mircea_popescu: what if bitcoin is considered a foreign currency?
Feb 08 12:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	by whom ?
Feb 08 12:43:07 <iz>	by those interpreting section 1 of the securities act of 1933
Feb 08 12:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	which foreign is it a currency of ?
Feb 08 12:43:36 <iz>	doesn't foreign just mean "not domestic"?
Feb 08 12:43:42 <mircea_popescu>	...
Feb 08 12:43:46 <iz>	or does it need to be a specific foreign country?
Feb 08 12:43:50 <mircea_popescu>	a foreign currency is the currency of a definite foreign power.
Feb 08 12:44:04 <iz>	oh, well that answers that then
Feb 08 12:45:42 <BitHub>	when will bitcoin-legal.org be ready :)
Feb 08 12:47:42 <thestringpuller>	it there a bitcoin-legal.org?
Feb 08 12:48:15 <jurov>	mircea_popescu my vps is completely inaccessible again
Feb 08 12:48:44 <thestringpuller>	is it still bitvps?
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Feb 08 12:50:03 <jurov>	yes. was thinking i'll give them a chance
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Feb 08 13:06:55 <leotreasure>	BitHub: will work on it this weekend
Feb 08 13:07:11 <leotreasure>	hopefully by monday morning
Feb 08 13:08:02 <leotreasure>	actually - the lawyer is calling me on monday so depending on how helpful they are - may have some solid info to put there by end of week
Feb 08 13:08:35 <leotreasure>	bed time for me now
Feb 08 13:13:19 <BitHub>	:)
Feb 08 13:13:27 <BitHub>	good stuff
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Feb 08 13:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 333 @ 0.00067985 = 0.2264 BTC [-]
Feb 08 13:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2367 @ 0.00067984 = 1.6092 BTC [-]
Feb 08 13:24:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1954 @ 0.00067984 = 1.3284 BTC [-]
Feb 08 13:24:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067983 = 3.3992 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 13:24:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96 @ 0.00067976 = 0.0653 BTC [-]
Feb 08 13:24:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067983 = 6.7983 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 13:29:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00619997 = 3.1 BTC [-]
Feb 08 13:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068003 = 2.9384 BTC [+]
Feb 08 13:32:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6726 @ 0.00067976 = 4.5721 BTC [-]
Feb 08 13:33:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 653 @ 0.00067965 = 0.4438 BTC [-]
Feb 08 13:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068978 = 2.9805 BTC [+]
Feb 08 13:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068994 = 3.4497 BTC [+]
Feb 08 13:33:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00068995 = 2.9668 BTC [+]
Feb 08 13:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00069521 = 2.0856 BTC [+]
Feb 08 13:33:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1829 @ 0.00069523 = 1.2716 BTC [+]
Feb 08 13:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00069608 = 2.4015 BTC [+]
Feb 08 13:40:59 <Bugpowder>	very impressive price action in the face of stiff overhead resistance
Feb 08 13:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 08 13:42:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.46002, Best ask: 22.61999, Bid-ask spread: 0.15997, Last trade: 22.46001, 24 hour volume: 52723.05584513, 24 hour low: 21.75001, 24 hour high: 22.70000, 24 hour vwap: 22.30134
Feb 08 13:47:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.621 = 6.21 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 13:53:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1654 @ 0.00067978 = 1.1244 BTC [-]
Feb 08 13:53:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3346 @ 0.00067977 = 2.2745 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 14:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1852 @ 0.00618074 = 11.4467 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00615002 = 3.075 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00615001 = 6.15 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:00:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00611577 = 5.5042 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00600003 = 6.3 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0059043 = 5.9043 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00584205 = 12.2683 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2356 @ 0.004321 = 10.1803 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:00:35 <Bugpowder>	yup
Feb 08 14:00:39 <pigeons>	whoa
Feb 08 14:01:08 <kakobreklaa>	what about my 0042!!
Feb 08 14:01:11 <kakobreklaa>	:(
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Feb 08 14:01:18 <Bugpowder>	you will get filled at .0042
Feb 08 14:01:24 <Bugpowder>	I bet you 1 BTC
Feb 08 14:01:38 <Bugpowder>	that you will get filled within 1 week at .0042
Feb 08 14:02:03 <kakobreklaa>	hmm
Feb 08 14:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 08 14:02:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004321 / 0.00614105 / 0.00619999 (141427 shares, 868.51 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00577226 / 0.007395 (3623200 shares, 20,914.06 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00536784 / 0.0075 (8137912 shares, 43,683.08 BTC)
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Feb 08 14:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	interesting, 50 btcs worth of depth
Feb 08 14:04:01 <grubles>	hey mircea_popescu
Feb 08 14:04:06 <grubles>	is my mpex account active
Feb 08 14:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea. does it respond ?
Feb 08 14:05:10 <grubles>	i dunno
Feb 08 14:05:12 <grubles>	havent tried
Feb 08 14:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	well then.
Feb 08 14:05:25 <grubles>	heh
Feb 08 14:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't even know you had one
Feb 08 14:07:39 <grubles>	i sure do
Feb 08 14:07:41 <grubles>	i have everything
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Feb 08 14:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067978 = 3.3989 BTC [+]
Feb 08 14:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 975 @ 0.00067977 = 0.6628 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:08:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067966 = 6.7966 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11985 @ 0.00067965 = 8.1456 BTC [-]
Feb 08 14:10:22 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Feb 08 14:11:04 <jborkl>	Volume on SD is insane right now, large bets on low odds also
Feb 08 14:12:18 <Bugpowder>	jborkl what are you looking at?
Feb 08 14:12:29 <ThickAsThieves>	wondering the same thing
Feb 08 14:12:30 <jborkl>	blockchaininfo
Feb 08 14:12:38 <jborkl>	it streams the info
Feb 08 14:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/A4V
Feb 08 14:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha this shit kicks all ass.
Feb 08 14:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	no child left behind, these are the results.
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Feb 08 14:16:39 <Bugpowder>	well it will be interesting to see when the next block hits
Feb 08 14:16:54 <Bugpowder>	cause SD has been dead for a few days
Feb 08 14:17:03 <Bugpowder>	I wonder if there are new whale addresses then
Feb 08 14:18:23 <JWU_42>	=)
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Feb 08 14:18:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder what's the month's volume, do you know ?
Feb 08 14:20:12 <jborkl>	The volume seems high to me, I have had to wait a long time to get transactions into a block
Feb 08 14:21:09 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1EAwKCEhyBcsZrZUPKYw8M4Lb8VM7Y1ep6
Feb 08 14:21:17 <ThickAsThieves>	.0043 bids on SDICE on MPEX?
Feb 08 14:21:58 <Bugpowder>	I think volume was ~150k
Feb 08 14:22:39 <maximian>	bugpowder: s.dice bets? like, today?
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Feb 08 14:23:52 <jborkl>	66btc and 130 btc on 6%
Feb 08 14:23:58 <jborkl>	just a second ago
Feb 08 14:24:07 <jborkl>	there have been a bunch going through like that
Feb 08 14:24:51 <Bugpowder>	no
Feb 08 14:24:54 <Bugpowder>	this month
Feb 08 14:26:05 <Bugpowder>	jborkl I think its a red herring
Feb 08 14:26:13 <Bugpowder>	look at the specific transactions
Feb 08 14:26:33 <Bugpowder>	1BTC is going to SDice address and the rest is going back to the same sending address
Feb 08 14:27:16 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/1EAwKCEhyBcsZrZUPKYw8M4Lb8VM7Y1ep6
Feb 08 14:27:43 <Bugpowder>	as far as I can tell, this address is doing most of that betting and is not related to the eight known addresses used by the big whale.
Feb 08 14:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	so it's quiet
Feb 08 14:30:14 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 08 14:30:42 <Bugpowder>	Also.... the whale is basically out of coins.
Feb 08 14:30:50 <Bugpowder>	from what I can tell
Feb 08 14:31:16 <ThickAsThieves>	he's waiting for his gox deposit
Feb 08 14:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 08 14:31:21 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Feb 08 14:31:40 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 08 14:31:44 <Bugpowder>	that IS possible
Feb 08 14:31:49 <Bugpowder>	driving up the price
Feb 08 14:31:53 <Bugpowder>	of coins
Feb 08 14:32:15 <Bugpowder>	50% of price gain is due to whale reloading
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Feb 08 14:35:34 <ThickAsThieves>	you know what would be nice, if someone hosted the report that Dooglus makes every day as an on-the-fly web page taht can be refreshed
Feb 08 14:35:48 <ThickAsThieves>	or such
Feb 08 14:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 08 14:36:28 <mircea_popescu>	how abotu dooglus himself
Feb 08 14:36:52 <Bugpowder>	actually I'd prefer not
Feb 08 14:36:57 <ThickAsThieves>	why?
Feb 08 14:37:09 <Bugpowder>	easier to make money if you knowledge is less accessible
Feb 08 14:37:46 <ThickAsThieves>	then dont post the link on the forums
Feb 08 14:38:23 <ThickAsThieves>	or bury it on an mpex page, i dunno
Feb 08 14:38:38 <ThickAsThieves>	it's only a matter of time
Feb 08 14:39:02 <Bugpowder>	make your own google doc that pulls the data
Feb 08 14:39:20 <ThickAsThieves>	its not exactly my area of expertise
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Feb 08 14:39:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i could learn i guess, I actually asked dooglus to help me figure it out
Feb 08 14:39:38 <ThickAsThieves>	he didnt reply
Feb 08 14:39:55 <Bugpowder>	took me 10 minutes of google searching to figure out how to do it. Not my area of expertise either.
Feb 08 14:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	ya but you're a brain surgeon
Feb 08 14:45:33 <swhitt>	it's not too hard, the armory dude released his original source
Feb 08 14:45:41 <swhitt>	did dooglus release his modifications?
Feb 08 14:46:19 <ThickAsThieves>	he referred me to the bitarmory py file
Feb 08 14:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	i thought he didn't answer
Feb 08 14:46:36 <swhitt>	is there still a bot doing a doublespend attack on sdice failed bets?
Feb 08 14:46:37 <ThickAsThieves>	this was before that
Feb 08 14:46:46 <ThickAsThieves>	in the thread on bctalk
Feb 08 14:47:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i was asking him how to use it
Feb 08 14:47:15 <swhitt>	adding a NOOP to the end of a transaction that was a losing bet
Feb 08 14:47:25 <swhitt>	changing the txid without having to resign the transaction
Feb 08 14:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	iirc that kinda failed ?
Feb 08 14:48:20 <swhitt>	it does fail, sdice ignores txns with inputs that it already saw in bets
Feb 08 14:49:02 <swhitt>	it was annoying though - I was messing around with the blockchain.info api by spending 0.01 on sdice; about half the time after I'd lose I'd see a doublespend show up in my wallet
Feb 08 14:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Feb 08 14:49:53 <swhitt>	and then going to the address on blockchain.info would show a warning "THIS ADDRESS HAS ATTEMPTED TO SEND DOUBLESPENDING TRANSACTIONS. USE CAUTION WHEN RECEIVING MONEY FROM THIS ACCOUNT"
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Feb 08 14:50:47 <swhitt>	paraphrased but roughly that
Feb 08 14:52:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11654 @ 0.00068862 = 8.0252 BTC [+]
Feb 08 14:53:56 <swhitt>	wtf is up with s.dice market depth
Feb 08 14:54:17 <swhitt>	the spread is almost .0019
Feb 08 14:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	it never was very deep on the book
Feb 08 14:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	somebody just took a dump
Feb 08 14:55:03 <swhitt>	what do the spreads look like elsewhere?
Feb 08 14:55:06 <Bugpowder>	there are over 3 million shares bid and 5 million asks.
Feb 08 14:55:22 <Bugpowder>	there is just a disagreement on value right now :-
Feb 08 14:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068929 = 2.9784 BTC [+]
Feb 08 14:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1929 @ 0.00068957 = 1.3302 BTC [+]
Feb 08 14:59:15 <EskimoBob>	is this romanian clown still screaming "fee money" ?
Feb 08 15:00:59 <swhitt>	a few people made a lot of money
Feb 08 15:01:35 <swhitt>	well, not a lot
Feb 08 15:01:37 <swhitt>	but about $12k
Feb 08 15:02:59 <jurov>	yea just a few kilo-mugs
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Feb 08 15:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	swhitt depends. if you coutn appreciation then people made something like 20-30k btc
Feb 08 15:08:04 <swhitt>	mircea_popescu: yeah, I meant single holders
Feb 08 15:08:24 <swhitt>	the whales were grabbing 100-250k shares in the first two tranches right?
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Feb 08 15:08:50 <mircea_popescu>	there were blocks as large as i think 2-3 mn going at once
Feb 08 15:09:17 <mircea_popescu>	but what do you mean single holders ? whales are single too, i'd hope
Feb 08 15:09:24 <mircea_popescu>	or else they'll get raped with divorce.
Feb 08 15:09:27 <swhitt>	haha
Feb 08 15:09:30 <jurov>	lol
Feb 08 15:09:37 <swhitt>	It was kind of hard to digest in the channel
Feb 08 15:09:46 <swhitt>	is there a feed of current trades somewhere else?
Feb 08 15:09:48 <swhitt>	and historical data too
Feb 08 15:09:56 <swhitt>	or wysiwyg
Feb 08 15:10:15 <jurov>	in FAQ there's RSS feed
Feb 08 15:10:40 <jurov>	and historical data up to 1 mn ago can be got from live.coinbr.com
Feb 08 15:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	you can get the rss feed,
Feb 08 15:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	or follow the twitter.
Feb 08 15:10:59 <jurov>	(I don't advertise it, but from js sources is obvoius how)
Feb 08 15:11:18 <swhitt>	yeah I saw those, but I should be keeping my own records if I want day-week long data
Feb 08 15:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	swhitt do so, charge a fee.
Feb 08 15:11:35 <swhitt>	?
Feb 08 15:12:02 <swhitt>	tempting
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Feb 08 15:15:03 <swhitt>	i wonder how often s.dice runs out of confirmed coins for payouts
Feb 08 15:15:13 <swhitt>	in their reserve accts
Feb 08 15:15:44 <Bugpowder>	basically never
Feb 08 15:16:01 <swhitt>	it seems to have to wait for the next block fairly often even when playing with aged coin and a larger-than-required txn fee
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Feb 08 15:17:01 <jurov>	swhitt you mean sdice issues the txs only after new block appears?
Feb 08 15:17:15 <swhitt>	most of the time it's incredibly fast
Feb 08 15:17:34 <swhitt>	unless your inputs aren't confirmed or you don't pay a large enough transaction fee
Feb 08 15:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	i guess if a whale owns them
Feb 08 15:18:15 <swhitt>	sometimes it won't process any transaction at all until the bet is confirmed
Feb 08 15:18:18 <jurov>	hm, that's possible
Feb 08 15:18:31 <thestringpuller>	;;seen namworld
Feb 08 15:18:32 <gribble>	namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 hours, 35 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Namworld> Eh
Feb 08 15:18:39 <swhitt>	it seems more probable if I bet 5 btc than if I bet .1 btc though
Feb 08 15:18:48 <jurov>	they had to tighten their anti-dblspend measures
Feb 08 15:18:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068939 = 2.9789 BTC [-]
Feb 08 15:18:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17633 @ 0.00068957 = 12.1592 BTC [+]
Feb 08 15:19:12 <swhitt>	I wonder if it's a result of anti-fraud heuristics or something else
Feb 08 15:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/7338/is-it-possible-to-buy-or-sell-bitcoin-options/7341#7341
Feb 08 15:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol meni rosenfeld getting uppity.
Feb 08 15:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	how is it that every two bit scammer and scammer wananbe is so quick to declare mpex bad in some way/attack me personally ?
Feb 08 15:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	don't they realise that by now it's so typical they might as well declare themselves scammers ?
Feb 08 15:22:19 <jurov>	uhm..you have to unfold my coinbr comment below it to see it... if anyone has SE account, pls upvode
Feb 08 15:22:24 <jurov>	*upvote
Feb 08 15:22:39 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu why do haters hate?
Feb 08 15:23:00 <thestringpuller>	why give them any attention? your time is best served elsewhere
Feb 08 15:23:28 <jurov>	http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100526194400AA6ZBSX
Feb 08 15:23:34 <jurov>	^ notice Best Answer
Feb 08 15:23:38 <jurov>	lol
Feb 08 15:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 08 15:24:12 <jurov>	we're surrounded by trauma survivors
Feb 08 15:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	more power to them
Feb 08 15:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069574 = 3.4787 BTC [+]
Feb 08 15:25:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63 @ 0.00069608 = 0.0439 BTC [+]
Feb 08 15:32:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00069251 = 16.0316 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 15:42:55 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: how many days left?
Feb 08 15:43:34 <Namworld>	7 days from forum time of op post, 24h extension from last bid
Feb 08 15:44:03 <Namworld>	February 04, 2013, 12:45:15 AM I see. It's now 04:43:42 PM
Feb 08 15:44:38 <Diablo-D3>	so still another 3 days?
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Feb 08 15:45:12 <Namworld>	yeah, it's a week auction, with extensions
Feb 08 15:45:27 <Namworld>	So if someone is outbid, they have time to come back
Feb 08 15:45:42 <Bugpowder>	still .35?
Feb 08 15:45:52 <Namworld>	.41 - .43
Feb 08 15:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	insanity.
Feb 08 15:46:09 <Bugpowder>	not bad
Feb 08 15:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	how the fuck would that thing make 160k btc ?
Feb 08 15:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	they mine 6k blocks ?
Feb 08 15:49:24 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 08 15:49:26 <Namworld>	Cheap asic boards/electricity, chinese manufacturer, mining for itself + selling ASIC boards?
Feb 08 15:49:29 <Bugpowder>	thats possible
Feb 08 15:49:37 <Bugpowder>	oh wait
Feb 08 15:49:39 <Bugpowder>	no its not
Feb 08 15:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 08 15:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	i mean ok, they sold for .1, were mostly worthless, now they've recouped most of their origianl value
Feb 08 15:50:13 <Bugpowder>	no it is
Feb 08 15:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	0.06. 0.08 if you're excited
Feb 08 15:50:25 <Bugpowder>	if BFL doesnt ship
Feb 08 15:50:31 <Bugpowder>	avalon does poorly
Feb 08 15:50:34 <wao>	bf will ship in may
Feb 08 15:50:43 <wao>	have someone experience with avalon?
Feb 08 15:50:44 <Bugpowder>	you might get .4  after 6 months
Feb 08 15:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	wao if ever
Feb 08 15:50:50 <Namworld>	If they keep rolling out enough for 1/4th of the total hashing, would get them 36 block per day
Feb 08 15:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder do the math for my benefit.
Feb 08 15:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069573 = 3.4787 BTC [+]
Feb 08 15:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069607 = 3.0077 BTC [+]
Feb 08 15:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1487 @ 0.00069608 = 1.0351 BTC [+]
Feb 08 15:51:03 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 25*6*24*7*12
Feb 08 15:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069608 = 6.9608 BTC [+]
Feb 08 15:51:04 <gribble>	302400
Feb 08 15:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15090 @ 0.00069609 = 10.504 BTC [+]
Feb 08 15:51:07 <Namworld>	that would take them 166 days to mine 6k blocks
Feb 08 15:51:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.00069656 = 7.752 BTC [+]
Feb 08 15:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2073 @ 0.00069897 = 1.449 BTC [+]
Feb 08 15:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	166 days ? so till what, august ?
Feb 08 15:51:37 <Bugpowder>	what is the designed hash rate?
Feb 08 15:51:40 <Namworld>	yeah. If they roll enough ASICs to keep 1/4th of hashing
Feb 08 15:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder something like 10-20TH from what i gather.
Feb 08 15:52:13 <wao>	and what are that .numbers for?
Feb 08 15:52:14 <wao>	:)
Feb 08 15:52:24 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 25*6*24*7*4*6/3
Feb 08 15:52:24 <gribble>	201600
Feb 08 15:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	wao the asicminer share price
Feb 08 15:52:31 <wao>	oh :)
Feb 08 15:52:43 <wao>	like devda.ch is doing?
Feb 08 15:52:44 <wao>	O_O
Feb 08 15:52:44 <Bugpowder>	6 months with 1/3 the network power = 201600 coins
Feb 08 15:52:49 <wao>	mmm
Feb 08 15:53:02 <Bugpowder>	people just want to be miners
Feb 08 15:53:10 <Bugpowder>	its an ego thing
Feb 08 15:53:10 <Namworld>	Mircea, they have 800 boards for 10-12 TH and plan 6x more soon
Feb 08 15:53:14 <wao>	I just planning SC single from BF
Feb 08 15:53:15 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder so iyo a correct discount value of  6 months with 1/3 the network power is 160k ?
Feb 08 15:53:18 <wao>	but I'm still not sure
Feb 08 15:53:46 <Bugpowder>	people are not rational with mining
Feb 08 15:53:51 <mircea_popescu>	i agree, people want to be "part of" btc.
Feb 08 15:53:56 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 08 15:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	instead of obeying mpoe-pr, getting into the wot and working their ass off
Feb 08 15:54:01 <Bugpowder>	it's like a cool thing
Feb 08 15:54:04 <Bugpowder>	I'm in this club
Feb 08 15:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	they are independant freemen on the land sovereign citizens
Feb 08 15:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	and such bs.
Feb 08 15:54:28 <Bugpowder>	I liked being in the club too but my apartments smelled of PCB then
Feb 08 15:54:32 <Bugpowder>	so I left the club
Feb 08 15:54:41 <Bugpowder>	and bought coins instead
Feb 08 15:54:47 <Bugpowder>	BEST DECISION OF MY LYFE
Feb 08 15:54:52 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Feb 08 15:55:21 <Bugpowder>	actually probably about the 7th or 8th best decision of my life.
Feb 08 15:55:26 <Bugpowder>	which is up there!
Feb 08 15:57:40 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GUZuyMVdVcc#!
Feb 08 16:09:28 <jurov>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-we-discuss-datskovskiys-discussion-of-mpex/
Feb 08 16:09:44 <jurov>	both this and OP very good food for thoughts, thanks!
Feb 08 16:11:55 <jurov>	i should make coinbr db public, too...
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Feb 08 16:12:48 <jurov>	maybe it wouldn't necessary to encrypt it , too. just use substring or hash of everyone's btc addy
Feb 08 16:12:51 <swhitt>	hmm
Feb 08 16:13:00 <swhitt>	I have to pay to access that article now
Feb 08 16:14:39 <jurov>	got better idea - use sha1(btc_addy+mpsic) :  balance
Feb 08 16:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00069388 = 7.3204 BTC [-]
Feb 08 16:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3301 @ 0.0006926 = 2.2863 BTC [-]
Feb 08 16:17:46 <topace>	havelock investments API now available :)
Feb 08 16:17:52 <topace>	not complete yet, but its a start
Feb 08 16:17:59 <topace>	to weet peoples appetite
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Feb 08 16:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 537 @ 0.00069897 = 0.3753 BTC [+]
Feb 08 16:20:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00069898 = 10.4847 BTC [+]
Feb 08 16:20:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10063 @ 0.00069956 = 7.0397 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 16:28:38 <mircea_popescu>	jurov glad you enjoyed
Feb 08 16:29:08 <jurov>	just i'm at a loss how to explain whole concept to anone else
Feb 08 16:29:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 08 16:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	welcome to the club.
Feb 08 16:29:39 <jurov>	i'm going into bit of a coworking
Feb 08 16:30:03 <jurov>	the guys are really nice, but... seems i'll stay alone with anything mpex-related
Feb 08 16:30:25 <Ukto>	[13:00] <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2356 @ 0.004321 = 10.1803 BTC [-]  wonder why that doesnt show on coinbr's graph
Feb 08 16:30:30 <Ukto>	jurov ?
Feb 08 16:30:53 <jurov>	hrm looks like it died
Feb 08 16:31:18 <jurov>	cause of the bitvps snafu...i'll replenish the db from other machine
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Feb 08 16:32:43 <Ukto>	kk :)
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Feb 08 16:32:46 <Ukto>	thanks jurov
Feb 08 16:32:47 <jurov>	lol they just chose to cut the fiber or whatever exactly when i wanted to demo coinbr
Feb 08 16:32:53 <Ukto>	what bitvps snafu ? i miss something?
Feb 08 16:33:23 <jurov>	cogent said someone cut their cable or the like
Feb 08 16:33:34 <Ukto>	bvps only has one upstream? 0,o
Feb 08 16:33:39 <jurov>	the one that serviced bitvps zurich dc
Feb 08 16:33:44 <Ukto>	ah
Feb 08 16:34:12 <jurov>	yea, they didn't reply to my mention of backup connectivity
Feb 08 16:34:34 <Namworld>	mircea, typo
Feb 08 16:34:47 <Namworld>	motley crue > motley crew
Feb 08 16:35:13 <mircea_popescu>	was kinda a joke.
Feb 08 16:35:27 <Namworld>	Well if you're comparing them to the band...
Feb 08 16:36:13 <jurov>	if i won't find anything decent 15ms from here, most likely i'll buy 30mbit to my flat and run whole thing straight fom here
Feb 08 16:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	jurov what if there's a fire ?
Feb 08 16:36:51 <jurov>	for that there will be that public db :D
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Feb 08 16:37:11 <mircea_popescu>	hehe ok
Feb 08 16:37:52 <jurov>	but i believe february earnings will allow me to get serious solution... it looks i already made more than whole january so far
Feb 08 16:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty good.
Feb 08 16:39:32 <jurov>	btw namworld, you didn't realize i'm speaking of your company's performance here.. don't you have any comment?
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Feb 08 16:41:06 <Bowjob>	holy titfuck
Feb 08 16:41:13 <Bowjob>	dice went 4xx?
Feb 08 16:42:43 <DeadWeasel>	thanks for the heads up.
Feb 08 16:42:59 <DeadWeasel>	just dumped the last few hundred of my .0055s
Feb 08 16:43:15 <DeadWeasel>	haha, bitfunder s.dice doens't look so hot now.
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Feb 08 16:52:37 <evoorhees>	hey guys - I'd like some feedback
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Feb 08 16:53:07 <evoorhees>	I'm thinking of leaving the 1m tranche up for another 24 hrs, then removing it completely since the market doesn't seem to want it
Feb 08 16:53:10 <evoorhees>	thoughts?
Feb 08 16:53:25 <DeadWeasel>	remove it now
Feb 08 16:53:27 <Bowjob>	aye.
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Feb 08 16:53:39 <DeadWeasel>	;)
Feb 08 16:53:54 <jcpham>	i do not gamble so i have no opinion
Feb 08 16:53:56 <Bowjob>	erik, i have an idea. why dont we advertise on rich kids of instagram? :3
Feb 08 16:54:03 <evoorhees>	hahah
Feb 08 16:54:07 <evoorhees>	that's actually awesome idea
Feb 08 16:54:14 <evoorhees>	what's the link?
Feb 08 16:54:19 <Bowjob>	hang on
Feb 08 16:54:31 <Bowjob>	http://richkidsofinstagram.tumblr.com/
Feb 08 16:55:03 <Ukto>	I noticed they re-post images from time to time
Feb 08 16:55:26 <Bowjob>	huh? the only re post they did was the recap from last year
Feb 08 16:55:30 <Bowjob>	otherwise they put new pics
Feb 08 16:55:58 <evoorhees>	sending them an email now
Feb 08 16:56:00 <ThickAsThieves>	evoor: announce a re-price date and time for the unsold mil at .0044 again :)
Feb 08 16:56:12 <evoorhees>	no thanks ;)
Feb 08 16:56:19 <evoorhees>	.0044 won't be happening again
Feb 08 16:56:23 <Bowjob>	yeah it was a bad idea to sell at 0.44
Feb 08 16:56:24 <ThickAsThieves>	sad
Feb 08 16:56:31 <Bowjob>	someone quickl.y cashed out
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Feb 08 16:56:37 <Bowjob>	im sure that was not your intention
Feb 08 16:56:45 <evoorhees>	nope, but good lesson!
Feb 08 16:56:50 <Namworld>	evoorhees, I'd say just leave the slice and put the 2 others higher and leave them there.
Feb 08 16:57:00 <maximian>	evoorhees: yes to removing the 1M tranche
Feb 08 16:57:02 <Namworld>	People will eat it eventually
Feb 08 16:57:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont know if the low price was the problem, so much as announcing the next tranches would be higher
Feb 08 16:57:25 <ThickAsThieves>	i was tempted to flip what i bought too
Feb 08 16:57:25 <maximian>	put the tranche at 0.0075 or higher
Feb 08 16:57:28 <maximian>	it'll sell eventually
Feb 08 16:57:30 <ThickAsThieves>	but i wanted to hold
Feb 08 16:57:52 <Bowjob>	you actually sent rich kids of instagram an email?
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Feb 08 16:57:55 <Bowjob>	awesome :3
Feb 08 16:58:00 <evoorhees>	I think I'll announce this one will be up for another 24 hrs, then gone indeffinitely
Feb 08 16:58:05 <evoorhees>	no other tranches for now
Feb 08 16:58:08 <Bugpowder>	it doesn't much matter
Feb 08 16:58:12 <evoorhees>	bowjob - about it
Feb 08 16:58:15 <evoorhees>	about to*
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Feb 08 16:58:21 <Bowjob>	cool omg lol
Feb 08 16:58:24 <Bugpowder>	This is what matters
Feb 08 16:58:24 <Bugpowder>	15HJgkvj6roZQvNRC3pUJNKP2YgfEuD8wo
Feb 08 16:58:37 <Bugpowder>	1A3z7M6GhpUejQ5eqgSyjVWRuezeepdKKV
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Feb 08 16:58:44 <maximian>	evoorhees: that's great! it might stimulate some buying action
Feb 08 16:58:49 <Bugpowder>	1B5h9sf6xNLYGa3NBk48hwYbxyNZ22PRJk
Feb 08 16:58:53 <maximian>	or at least higher bids
Feb 08 16:59:04 <Bowjob>	this higher price is killing me
Feb 08 16:59:06 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 08 16:59:08 <Bugpowder>	1DBH7Xum2re7LXd8YNSe1uRznttsqeMXGK
Feb 08 16:59:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00069261 = 0.4848 BTC [-]
Feb 08 16:59:22 <Bugpowder>	1EP4rM8hLZCRSWPNZDWJp9zdvmoWYkkgbQ
Feb 08 16:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1020 @ 0.0006926 = 0.7065 BTC [-]
Feb 08 16:59:24 <Bowjob>	so whatever happened to pirate dude
Feb 08 16:59:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3043 @ 0.00069252 = 2.1073 BTC [-]
Feb 08 16:59:27 <Bugpowder>	you get the idea
Feb 08 16:59:59 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees prolly just leave it there
Feb 08 17:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	good to have something on the books.
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Feb 08 17:00:47 <Bugpowder>	I would leave it up
Feb 08 17:01:05 <Bugpowder>	the fancies of MPEX users cannot be predicted
Feb 08 17:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	for srsly.
Feb 08 17:01:16 <maximian>	leave it up, but higher price
Feb 08 17:01:22 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 08 17:01:30 <maximian>	that highest trade was 0.0075, set it to that
Feb 08 17:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1457 @ 0.00069252 = 1.009 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 17:01:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8431 @ 0.00069251 = 5.8386 BTC [-]
Feb 08 17:01:41 <Bugpowder>	break it into a million pieces
Feb 08 17:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	it was funny to look at the graph yest
Feb 08 17:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	looked like an amortised oscillation
Feb 08 17:04:14 <evoorhees>	okay email sent to rich kids of instagram hah
Feb 08 17:04:21 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you must own a maybach
Feb 08 17:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Feb 08 17:05:14 <thestringpuller>	cause they are awesome
Feb 08 17:05:41 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not owning any cars atm
Feb 08 17:06:32 <Bugpowder>	TESLA
Feb 08 17:07:00 <mircea_popescu>	you're such a hipster.
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Feb 08 17:07:20 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you are the hipster
Feb 08 17:07:31 <mircea_popescu>	me ?! why ?
Feb 08 17:07:56 <thestringpuller>	"had bitcoins before they were cool"
Feb 08 17:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/pnc7FNk.jpg
Feb 08 17:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	no wai ? i only bought in after the bubble burst
Feb 08 17:08:17 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLCdP6sMN9k
Feb 08 17:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136036121335.jpg
Feb 08 17:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	since we're comparing performance.
Feb 08 17:09:35 <Bugpowder>	nsfw
Feb 08 17:09:38 <Bugpowder>	im guessing
Feb 08 17:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	dtng is the new way to say nsfw
Feb 08 17:12:53 <ThickAsThieves>	http://dtng.info/
Feb 08 17:12:57 <jurov>	live.coinbr data fixed. enjoy
Feb 08 17:14:32 <jurov>	hm, medicinal medication...sadly don't have any around
Feb 08 17:14:53 <jurov>	must make do with a wine
Feb 08 17:16:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.61999999 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 17:20:31 <jcpham>	http://jcpham.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/supra-alley.jpg
Feb 08 17:20:54 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck
Feb 08 17:21:26 <evoorhees>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1513113#msg1513113
Feb 08 17:21:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.61999999 = 2.48 BTC [-]
Feb 08 17:22:09 <kakobreklaa>	wanna take that bet Bugpowder
Feb 08 17:22:18 <mjr_>	hi all
Feb 08 17:22:39 <jurov>	tsk tsk evoorhees, such machinations...
Feb 08 17:22:46 <jurov>	hi mjr_
Feb 08 17:22:51 <Bugpowder>	sure
Feb 08 17:23:14 <kakobreklaa>	put it on bbet?
Feb 08 17:23:30 <Bugpowder>	Yeah
Feb 08 17:23:33 <Bugpowder>	want me to?
Feb 08 17:23:35 <Bugpowder>	or you
Feb 08 17:23:35 <Bugpowder>	?
Feb 08 17:23:48 <Bugpowder>	Feb 15?
Feb 08 17:24:37 <kakobreklaa>	hm ok
Feb 08 17:24:39 <kakobreklaa>	0.0042 ?
Feb 08 17:25:04 <Bugpowder>	sure
Feb 08 17:25:21 <Bugpowder>	this is manipulateable though
Feb 08 17:25:32 <Bugpowder>	I won't manipulate it
Feb 08 17:25:33 <kakobreklaa>	myea
Feb 08 17:25:36 <Bugpowder>	but someone else might
Feb 08 17:25:39 <kakobreklaa>	not a huge depth
Feb 08 17:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00068864 = 0.6886 BTC [-]
Feb 08 17:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00068863 = 0.6886 BTC [-]
Feb 08 17:26:19 <maximian>	evoorhees: it'll be interesting to see if that announcement stimulates any buying activity in the next 24 hours
Feb 08 17:26:28 <evoorhees>	yeah we'll see
Feb 08 17:26:34 <evoorhees>	but I learned not to suprise anyone
Feb 08 17:26:42 <evoorhees>	so I'm posting the announcement ahead of time :)
Feb 08 17:27:04 <jurov>	if you're gonna do surprises, do it anonymously
Feb 08 17:27:13 <Bugpowder>	it might spark some buying actually
Feb 08 17:27:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.61999999 BTC [-]
Feb 08 17:30:45 <Bugpowder>	CHINESE!
Feb 08 17:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00619997 = 3.1 BTC [+]
Feb 08 17:34:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9291 @ 0.00619998 = 57.604 BTC [+]
Feb 08 17:36:31 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 08 17:36:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.60982, Best ask: 22.69989, Bid-ask spread: 0.09007, Last trade: 22.60982, 24 hour volume: 48550.75701377, 24 hour low: 22.00000, 24 hour high: 22.70000, 24 hour vwap: 22.39278
Feb 08 17:36:42 <Bugpowder>	banging the roof
Feb 08 17:40:40 <jurov>	reading http://negosentro.com/index.php/articles/mybiz/ideas/741-bitcoins-the-fast-rising-star-of-gaming
Feb 08 17:41:09 <jurov>	maybe casacsius should offer rouletts/poker chips? that would be perfect
Feb 08 17:41:35 <jurov>	especially for rkoi, lol
Feb 08 17:42:34 <jurov>	we eastern europeans should raise money for such casino, really
Feb 08 17:42:53 <Bugpowder>	I feel like I've read this article before
Feb 08 17:43:44 <jurov>	then go to slovak or whatever govt and make them drool
Feb 08 17:44:14 <jurov>	if necessary
Feb 08 17:45:47 <jurov>	but prolly easier to go offshore
Feb 08 17:46:34 <jurov>	mircea, we can IPO this... buy a ship, make offshore btc-only casino
Feb 08 17:47:21 <Bugpowder>	sounds like a job for sealand
Feb 08 17:48:20 <jurov>	just b4 maiden voyage, btc will skyrocket :DD
Feb 08 17:48:21 <Ukto>	jurov: you can buy a decen size rig for 250k
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Feb 08 17:48:24 <Ukto>	w/ generator
Feb 08 17:48:32 <Ukto>	enough for about 5 tables
Feb 08 17:48:38 <Ukto>	not that I have looked at that already >,>
Feb 08 17:48:39 <Ukto>	<,<
Feb 08 17:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3412 @ 0.00069188 = 2.3607 BTC [+]
Feb 08 17:48:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069501 = 3.0031 BTC [+]
Feb 08 17:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2467 @ 0.00069518 = 1.715 BTC [+]
Feb 08 17:48:46 <Ukto>	for Japan... or anything
Feb 08 17:48:50 *	Ukto coughs
Feb 08 17:49:10 <jurov>	pfft, sealand.. who cares about pieceof concrete in middel of nowhere?
Feb 08 17:49:20 <Ukto>	its dea dnot
Feb 08 17:49:23 <Ukto>	to my knoweldge
Feb 08 17:49:47 <jurov>	buy normal yacht with place for few tables, do mediterranean cruises,...
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Feb 08 17:50:05 <jurov>	*rent
Feb 08 17:50:39 <jurov>	fuck, sound like a plan
Feb 08 17:51:01 <PsychoticBoy>	nice, that is my next vacation ;)
Feb 08 17:51:38 <PsychoticBoy>	cruise, gamble, bitcoin, sun, drinks
Feb 08 17:52:16 <Bugpowder>	http://www.stunningyachts.com/yacht_details.php?pid=610
Feb 08 17:52:45 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE was earning about that much last month
Feb 08 17:52:47 <Bugpowder>	:-)
Feb 08 17:53:23 <Bugpowder>	I'm sure there are better deals though
Feb 08 17:54:31 <Bugpowder>	oh man I wish I had a yachy
Feb 08 17:54:40 <Bugpowder>	this yacht
Feb 08 17:55:22 <jurov>	so the casion should make 7000 btc per week to pay for this beauty
Feb 08 17:55:27 <jurov>	sounds doable
Feb 08 17:55:46 <jurov>	(at btceur=15)
Feb 08 17:56:07 <Bugpowder>	A much better deal here
Feb 08 17:56:07 <Bugpowder>	http://www.stunningyachts.com/yacht_details.php?pid=2243
Feb 08 17:56:21 <Bugpowder>	only $60,000 /wk
Feb 08 17:56:29 <Bugpowder>	but not in St. Tropez
Feb 08 17:56:41 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 08 17:56:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.63185, Best ask: 22.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06815, Last trade: 22.63185, 24 hour volume: 48640.66523893, 24 hour low: 22.00000, 24 hour high: 22.70000, 24 hour vwap: 22.39561
Feb 08 17:56:51 <Bugpowder>	yesss
Feb 08 17:57:10 <jurov>	oh that will be american subsidiary
Feb 08 17:59:54 <Bowjob>	we have a baby whale playing
Feb 08 17:59:55 <Bowjob>	http://blockchain.info/address/1EAwKCEhyBcsZrZUPKYw8M4Lb8VM7Y1ep6
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Feb 08 18:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	jurov why a ship ?
Feb 08 18:01:07 <jurov>	why not?
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Feb 08 18:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	what's wrong with just as things are ?
Feb 08 18:01:22 <Bugpowder>	must stop looking at blocks
Feb 08 18:01:26 <Bugpowder>	i mean yachts
Feb 08 18:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder sure better than teslas.
Feb 08 18:01:59 <Bugpowder>	I am not rich enough for a yacht
Feb 08 18:02:03 <mircea_popescu>	load a boat with party girls, go for vacation
Feb 08 18:02:06 <Bugpowder>	Yah
Feb 08 18:02:14 <Bugpowder>	A week rental
Feb 08 18:02:35 <Bugpowder>	I have a friend in HK with a nice boat
Feb 08 18:02:38 <jurov>	ship+casinos are cool... now imagine one with btc flag hoisted
Feb 08 18:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ship with hookers&blow are cool
Feb 08 18:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoins don't need you to be stuck on a ship
Feb 08 18:03:17 <jurov>	oh these will appear themselves
Feb 08 18:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which, i'm going off. catch you all later!
Feb 08 18:04:00 <Namworld>	later
Feb 08 18:04:18 <jborkl>	mp, you get all worked up thinking of hookers and blow?
Feb 08 18:04:47 <Bugpowder>	not loving my puts purchase
Feb 08 18:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl not me. the hookers.
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Feb 08 18:06:31 <jborkl>	Yeah, hookers and blow go together like straberries and chocolate
Feb 08 18:06:32 <jurov>	btc don;t need ship. but i want to do things with btc irl, nut just be forever stuck here showing biggest epeen
Feb 08 18:06:46 <jurov>	kbd fail
Feb 08 18:09:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0059 = 0.059 BTC [-]
Feb 08 18:09:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 45 @ 0.0058 = 0.261 BTC [-]
Feb 08 18:09:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1200 @ 0.0058 = 6.96 BTC [-]
Feb 08 18:09:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 23 @ 0.0056 = 0.1288 BTC [-]
Feb 08 18:09:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0052 = 5.2 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 18:11:24 <jurov>	it would also need professionally done two-page ad in btc tabloid, first one they'll ever have.. and nicely contrasting their "power to the people" stuff
Feb 08 18:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00068635 = 0.6864 BTC [-]
Feb 08 18:12:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3517 @ 0.00068634 = 2.4139 BTC [-]
Feb 08 18:12:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3233 @ 0.00068634 = 2.2189 BTC [-]
Feb 08 18:12:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.3498 = 1.3992 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 18:39:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1200 @ 0.0061 = 7.32 BTC [-]
Feb 08 18:57:31 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 08 18:57:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.65102, Best ask: 22.71895, Bid-ask spread: 0.06793, Last trade: 22.71895, 24 hour volume: 48575.84848456, 24 hour low: 22.00000, 24 hour high: 22.77219, 24 hour vwap: 22.41786
Feb 08 18:57:47 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 08 18:57:48 <gribble>	22.40
Feb 08 18:58:04 <swhitt>	boo satoshidice isn't responding to me
Feb 08 18:58:11 <swhitt>	my shares will become worthless :(
Feb 08 19:01:36 <zefir>	investors and traders, ASICMINER board seat for sale: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142038.0
Feb 08 19:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 145 @ 0.00068687 = 0.0996 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:04:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068686 = 2.9679 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:04:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068666 = 3.4333 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:04:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00068665 = 6.8665 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:04:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1767 @ 0.00068634 = 1.2128 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:04:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00068633 = 6.2456 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00068539 = 6.8539 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00068538 = 9.2526 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:04:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006814 = 6.814 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11512 @ 0.00068139 = 7.8442 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 19:05:48 <jurov>	did you ask canadian electric? they may be interested ;)
Feb 08 19:09:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068155 = 2.945 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11938 @ 0.00068139 = 8.1344 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:09:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1841 @ 0.00067965 = 1.2512 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11458 @ 0.00067965 = 7.7874 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:11:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17892 @ 0.00067943 = 12.1564 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067945 = 2.9359 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 19:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8356 @ 0.00067943 = 5.6773 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067933 = 3.3967 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:23:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2694 @ 0.00067796 = 1.8264 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:25:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068003 = 2.9384 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:25:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4329 @ 0.00068005 = 2.9439 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:26:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.0061 = 0.0671 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 19:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067827 = 2.9308 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6556 @ 0.00067796 = 4.4447 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18543 @ 0.00067733 = 12.5597 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:32:33 <Bowjob>	how do i change the btc valu to usd in blockchain?
Feb 08 19:33:59 <iz>	Bowjob: can't, the blockchain uses btc
Feb 08 19:34:25 <Bowjob>	you can actually, ive done it before i forgot how
Feb 08 19:34:54 <iz>	well, then you would multiply the btc total it gives you and multiply by the current BTC price.
Feb 08 19:35:03 <Bowjob>	nvm, i figured it out
Feb 08 19:35:11 <Bowjob>	there is a currency tab at the bottom
Feb 08 19:35:37 <iz>	oh, are you talking about the website blockchain.info?
Feb 08 19:35:57 <Bowjob>	yes
Feb 08 19:36:21 <iz>	there is also a critical structure to bitcoin called the blockchain that is used for all transactions
Feb 08 19:36:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.621 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:36:45 <Bowjob>	looks like we got a baby whale on s.dice woot
Feb 08 19:39:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0098 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:41:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00568597 = 5.686 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00568596 = 0.5686 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00568594 = 10.8033 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 19:46:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.621 = 7.452 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:47:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006799 = 2.9378 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:48:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7779 @ 0.00068005 = 5.2901 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:52:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.621 = 6.831 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11542 @ 0.00068005 = 7.8491 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7514 @ 0.00068443 = 5.1428 BTC [+]
Feb 08 19:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068413 = 2.9561 BTC [-]
Feb 08 19:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00068443 = 11.9775 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 20:00:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00068611 = 0.3286 BTC [+]
Feb 08 20:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067827 = 2.9308 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067798 = 0.678 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:00:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.61200021 = 3.06 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:00:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.611 = 4.277 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:00:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 53 @ 0.61 = 32.33 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:04:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067798 = 2.9296 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12338 @ 0.00067797 = 8.3648 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:04:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 257 @ 0.00067733 = 0.1741 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:04:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9811 @ 0.00067682 = 6.6403 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 20:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7362 @ 0.00559977 = 41.2255 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:23:36 <Bowjob>	dice. why u tank
Feb 08 20:24:14 <Ukto>	because people lost.
Feb 08 20:24:27 <Ukto>	a lotof people bought in, expecting the next couple traunches, and to be able to sell out
Feb 08 20:24:31 <Ukto>	like that guy did the other night
Feb 08 20:24:41 <Ukto>	to sell out before hand at a higher price
Feb 08 20:24:51 <Ukto>	so now that there are no my traunches, they are trying to recoop whatever they can
Feb 08 20:24:58 <Bowjob>	one guy pulled it off brilliantly
Feb 08 20:25:02 <Ukto>	Yes.
Feb 08 20:25:13 <Ukto>	But even he didnt get it 100%
Feb 08 20:25:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00068084 = 7.5914 BTC [+]
Feb 08 20:25:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13839 @ 0.00067682 = 9.3665 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:25:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067658 = 6.7658 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:25:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00067601 = 8.7543 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14659 @ 0.00067553 = 9.9026 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:26:54 <Ukto>	honestly, he pulled it at the right time
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Feb 08 20:27:05 <Ukto>	if he had been greedy and tried to wait another traunch, he woulda lost
Feb 08 20:27:25 <Ukto>	we would cleared about half of the last mil,  and then it woulda gotten stuck
Feb 08 20:29:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6025 @ 0.00067553 = 4.0701 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:29:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00067404 = 13.1101 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:29:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00067347 = 6.4653 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:29:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2918 @ 0.00067339 = 1.965 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:30:06 <Bowjob>	i wonder what the price would be if erik didnt dump
Feb 08 20:30:27 <Ukto>	in the .008's
Feb 08 20:30:36 <Ukto>	based on trending
Feb 08 20:30:41 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 08 20:30:48 <Ukto>	it will jump back up shortly
Feb 08 20:30:55 <Bowjob>	i hope so
Feb 08 20:30:59 <Ukto>	well consider this way
Feb 08 20:31:10 <Ukto>	right now ppl are panic selling what they expected to flip
Feb 08 20:31:22 <Bowjob>	i did too, actually.
Feb 08 20:31:24 <Ukto>	they never had long term holding intentions
Feb 08 20:31:25 <Bowjob>	but at a profit
Feb 08 20:31:35 <Bowjob>	well, im at the same position back then
Feb 08 20:31:46 <Ukto>	so now is the time for the long term buyers to get in again at a cheap price
Feb 08 20:31:50 <Ukto>	as they have btc available
Feb 08 20:31:51 <Bowjob>	so its half dice half btc
Feb 08 20:32:02 <Ukto>	3mil shares in 3 days was just way too much for the long time holders to pay out
Feb 08 20:32:14 <Bowjob>	my only concern is that 40k of dice profits
Feb 08 20:32:19 <Bowjob>	just came from the whales
Feb 08 20:32:23 <Ukto>	as the flippers get done with panic mode, the market will pick them back uip
Feb 08 20:32:25 <Ukto>	and get back up again
Feb 08 20:32:49 <Bowjob>	u own some dice?
Feb 08 20:32:52 <Ukto>	yes
Feb 08 20:32:58 <Ukto>	a large number
Feb 08 20:33:05 <Bowjob>	ic ic
Feb 08 20:33:07 <Ukto>	I bought in at 0.0044 and in the 0.003's
Feb 08 20:33:10 <Ukto>	for long term
Feb 08 20:33:16 <thestringpuller>	ukto ff7
Feb 08 20:33:21 <thestringpuller>	whats the dealio
Feb 08 20:33:23 <Ukto>	you make ad ecision ?
Feb 08 20:33:25 <Ukto>	you told me to wait
Feb 08 20:33:26 <Ukto>	thats what
Feb 08 20:33:30 <thestringpuller>	no i meant price
Feb 08 20:33:33 <Bowjob>	arent you scared of btc price appreciation?
Feb 08 20:33:34 <thestringpuller>	given volatility
Feb 08 20:33:44 <Ukto>	Bowjob: dont care. sdice isnt done in USD
Feb 08 20:34:01 <Ukto>	prices on sdice dont change
Feb 08 20:34:15 <Bowjob>	the volume will, assume 1 btc = 500 dollars
Feb 08 20:34:16 <Ukto>	the honest truth about sdice is that its gambling, and addictive service
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Feb 08 20:34:24 <Ukto>	if there were whales.. kids.. etc with money playing it
Feb 08 20:34:27 <Ukto>	they got a kick out of it
Feb 08 20:34:30 <Ukto>	and will go back to it
Feb 08 20:35:02 <Ukto>	even without the whales, it makes good profit
Feb 08 20:35:36 <Ukto>	yes, if btc became 500$ tomorrow, i would expect less profit from sdice
Feb 08 20:35:37 <Ukto>	but thats okay
Feb 08 20:35:43 <Ukto>	that profit is now wroth $500usd per 1btc
Feb 08 20:35:45 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 08 20:35:55 <Ukto>	so its a wash, regardless
Feb 08 20:36:08 <Ukto>	it wont cause ppl to not play, will just change the amounts
Feb 08 20:36:24 <Bowjob>	but you're not accounting buying the shares at a steep price
Feb 08 20:36:35 <Ukto>	who bought at a steep price?
Feb 08 20:36:38 <Ukto>	I didnt
Feb 08 20:36:39 <Ukto>	:D
Feb 08 20:37:02 <Ukto>	sdice shares are easily worth .01btc
Feb 08 20:37:24 <Bowjob>	assuming, you bought at 0.0032, and  1 btc = 500, each share would be a dollar
Feb 08 20:37:30 <Bowjob>	1.6
Feb 08 20:37:34 <Bowjob>	see the problem yet?
Feb 08 20:37:43 <pigeons>	the usd price is pretty irrelevant
Feb 08 20:37:48 <Ukto>	your cant base it off of that
Feb 08 20:38:03 <Ukto>	you dont value current stock holdings based of the exchange rate hwen you made the purchase
Feb 08 20:38:05 <Ukto>	thats rediculas
Feb 08 20:38:09 <Ukto>	rediculus
Feb 08 20:38:11 <Ukto>	w/e
Feb 08 20:38:13 <Bowjob>	fail
Feb 08 20:38:16 <Ukto>	epic
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Feb 08 20:38:25 <Bowjob>	ridiculous spelling
Feb 08 20:38:42 <Ukto>	but year "There you have it."
Feb 08 20:38:58 <pigeons>	people are gonna bet, you're gonna get a share of the profits, or else SD is unlucky and there are no profits this month, then you get them next month, or else SD is attcked legally or packetly and you get less money. But the price of usd means nothing
Feb 08 20:39:07 <Ukto>	tbh
Feb 08 20:39:12 <Ukto>	with the price rising slowing over time
Feb 08 20:39:14 <Ukto>	thats better for investors
Feb 08 20:39:24 <Ukto>	cause if they start petting at $20usd per btc
Feb 08 20:39:28 <Ukto>	putting it lots of btc
Feb 08 20:39:34 <Ukto>	the price doubles over the month
Feb 08 20:39:43 <Ukto>	sure, the btc will slow down, but the usd value is still the same
Feb 08 20:39:44 <Ukto>	EXCETP
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Feb 08 20:39:52 <Ukto>	for the large vol played at the begining of the month
Feb 08 20:40:01 <Ukto>	now your getting MORE bang for your buck due to the appreciation
Feb 08 20:40:15 <pigeons>	yeah if someone bets a portion of her usd income each month, and therefore you get less but the same in usd, who cares
Feb 08 20:40:18 <Bugpowder>	Exchange rate is a secondary factor
Feb 08 20:40:25 <Ukto>	So technically USD prices consistantly going up, is better for the share holders
Feb 08 20:40:45 <Bowjob>	im having trouble following your logic
Feb 08 20:40:48 <Ukto>	okay
Feb 08 20:40:56 <Ukto>	so imagine evry day, usd goes up by $1
Feb 08 20:40:57 <Bugpowder>	The primary factor is the whale lost 40,000 BTC to Sdice
Feb 08 20:41:03 <Bowjob>	^ that
Feb 08 20:41:14 <Bugpowder>	And has less than 3000 BTC left
Feb 08 20:41:17 <Bowjob>	its just 1 fucking guy
Feb 08 20:41:18 <Bugpowder>	In all
Feb 08 20:41:24 <Bugpowder>	Known addresses
Feb 08 20:41:25 <Bowjob>	it would be gravy if its all spread out
Feb 08 20:41:29 <Ukto>	I said I didnt care about the whale ?
Feb 08 20:41:33 <pigeons>	because before i had shares worth X BTC x Y USD. Now I have shares wirth X BTC x Y+ BTC = better
Feb 08 20:41:40 <Ukto>	Under normal play it makes good profits
Feb 08 20:41:42 <Bugpowder>	The market cares
Feb 08 20:41:43 <Ukto>	the whale == bonus
Feb 08 20:41:49 <Bowjob>	yes but its overpriced at current rates
Feb 08 20:41:54 <Bowjob>	if you dont factor the whale
Feb 08 20:42:05 <Bugpowder>	Without the whale Sdice is a .003 stock
Feb 08 20:42:07 <Bowjob>	the market assumes 20k btc a month
Feb 08 20:42:09 <Ukto>	yes, but I didnt pay current rates
Feb 08 20:42:10 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 08 20:42:23 <Bowjob>	you;re not thinking enogh
Feb 08 20:42:27 <Ukto>	but yes
Feb 08 20:42:58 <Ukto>	the whale could play 4x this month
Feb 08 20:42:59 <Ukto>	in a week
Feb 08 20:43:06 <Ukto>	does that mean market share should go through the roof after divs pay?
Feb 08 20:43:26 <Bowjob>	yes it would
Feb 08 20:43:33 <Ukto>	even if the whales account is empty?
Feb 08 20:43:52 <Bowjob>	it still would, the price depends on the volume
Feb 08 20:43:54 <Ukto>	and it made up 90% of all profit
Feb 08 20:43:55 <Ukto>	?
Feb 08 20:44:17 <Bowjob>	yes
Feb 08 20:44:23 <pigeons>	no
Feb 08 20:44:24 <Bugpowder>	Price will reflect the markets future expection of return. Always
Feb 08 20:44:28 <Ukto>	maybe?
Feb 08 20:44:30 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 08 20:44:30 <pigeons>	you pay for FUTURE earnings
Feb 08 20:44:41 <Ukto>	correct
Feb 08 20:44:48 <Ukto>	since the whale is not a normal player
Feb 08 20:44:49 <Ukto>	averaged out
Feb 08 20:44:53 <Ukto>	you cannot expect it
Feb 08 20:44:54 <pigeons>	yes
Feb 08 20:44:54 <Bugpowder>	Market is made of people with a variety of opinions and knowledge re future earnings
Feb 08 20:44:55 <Ukto>	thus, it is a bonus
Feb 08 20:45:00 <Ukto>	and you must price the shares based on that
Feb 08 20:45:09 <pigeons>	sometimes there are whales, sometimes there are none, correct
Feb 08 20:45:10 <Bugpowder>	U are part of
Feb 08 20:45:13 <Bugpowder>	The market
Feb 08 20:45:23 <Bugpowder>	I am part of the market.
Feb 08 20:45:27 <Bowjob>	suppose we take out the whale
Feb 08 20:45:30 <Bowjob>	we get 2k a month
Feb 08 20:45:32 <Ukto>	I mean, I would love for it to happen. whale goes one more time, then empties his account
Feb 08 20:45:37 <Ukto>	everyone dumps shares at low prices
Feb 08 20:45:38 <Ukto>	I buy it
Feb 08 20:45:42 <Bowjob>	would dice still be worth 0.006 a share?
Feb 08 20:45:42 <Ukto>	then mebbe.. he comes back a month later
Feb 08 20:45:45 <Bugpowder>	I think it's more like 4k a
Feb 08 20:45:47 <Bugpowder>	Month
Feb 08 20:45:51 <Bowjob>	k, 4k
Feb 08 20:46:07 <Bugpowder>	I have bids in at .0026
Feb 08 20:46:14 <Bugpowder>	I think they will get hit
Feb 08 20:46:17 <Ukto>	tbh, it depends on performance
Feb 08 20:46:19 <Bugpowder>	This month
Feb 08 20:46:26 <Bowjob>	no shit sherlock
Feb 08 20:46:26 <Ukto>	i wont pay at .006 atm
Feb 08 20:46:32 <Ukto>	i bought 0.0044
Feb 08 20:46:33 <Ukto>	was happy
Feb 08 20:46:43 <Ukto>	and bought at the 0.003's
Feb 08 20:46:50 <Ukto>	so I am happy without the whale atm
Feb 08 20:46:58 <Ukto>	as for the rest of the market
Feb 08 20:47:13 <Ukto>	well. i guess thats enough
Feb 08 20:47:17 <Bowjob>	i hope you're not in lalaland and im wrong
Feb 08 20:47:17 <Ukto>	i got to get back to coding
Feb 08 20:47:31 <Ukto>	:)
Feb 08 20:47:37 <Ukto>	btw
Feb 08 20:47:38 <Bugpowder>	Sdice is a capital appreciation play actually not a dividend play
Feb 08 20:47:40 <Ukto>	if you look at the history
Feb 08 20:47:42 <Ukto>	b4 the whales
Feb 08 20:47:50 <Ukto>	there was a constnat steady rise in price
Feb 08 20:47:54 <Ukto>	constant
Feb 08 20:47:55 <Ukto>	even
Feb 08 20:47:56 <Bowjob>	but i think im right and you're probably in lalaland right now
Feb 08 20:47:57 <Bugpowder>	The history was the revenue was dropping
Feb 08 20:48:10 <Bugpowder>	Look at te spreadsheet
Feb 08 20:48:25 <Bugpowder>	But, I do think there is organic growth since the
Feb 08 20:48:26 <Bowjob>	id post my analysis on this, but id rather not have people panic sell. itd be bad for me
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Feb 08 20:48:55 <Bugpowder>	Dude u should definitely position yourself prior to discussing
Feb 08 20:49:02 <Bugpowder>	I'm just talking my book
Feb 08 20:49:09 <Bowjob>	i told eric to advertise in rkoi, i hope it works
Feb 08 20:49:11 <Bugpowder>	I have zero Sdice now
Feb 08 20:49:35 <Bugpowder>	I think a whale or whales will come back
Feb 08 20:49:36 <Ukto>	fir rkoi
Feb 08 20:49:37 <Bugpowder>	Someday
Feb 08 20:49:39 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: why are the options so expensive? You can't use them to hedge shit...
Feb 08 20:49:41 <Ukto>	for rkoi, you need somethign simpler
Feb 08 20:49:43 <Ukto>	and more graphic
Feb 08 20:49:45 <Ukto>	for fun
Feb 08 20:49:55 <Ukto>	thats just.. too much
Feb 08 20:50:08 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: how much for the ff7 now that the price of bitcoin has changed
Feb 08 20:50:10 <Bugpowder>	Options are expensive so mpor makes 12% a month
Feb 08 20:50:16 <Ukto>	and you need a different approach
Feb 08 20:50:17 <Bugpowder>	Mpoe
Feb 08 20:50:23 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: double
Feb 08 20:50:26 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: so then they aren't for consumer
Feb 08 20:50:35 <Bugpowder>	I think the spread will narrow in the next few months
Feb 08 20:50:38 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: uh huh...
Feb 08 20:50:41 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 08 20:50:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00067593 = 13.282 BTC [+]
Feb 08 20:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7582 @ 0.00067339 = 5.1056 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:50:45 <Ukto>	hey, a guys gotta truy
Feb 08 20:50:45 <Ukto>	right ?
Feb 08 20:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2996 @ 0.00067149 = 2.0118 BTC [-]
Feb 08 20:50:48 <Ukto>	try*
Feb 08 20:51:04 <Bugpowder>	Mpoe is fantastically successful.
Feb 08 20:51:15 <Bugpowder>	The options bot.
Feb 08 20:51:20 <thestringpuller>	and yet the bot hasn't been updated in almost a year
Feb 08 20:51:28 <thestringpuller>	i smell conspiracy
Feb 08 20:51:38 <Bowjob>	isnt options gambling?
Feb 08 20:51:55 <thestringpuller>	No...
Feb 08 20:52:06 <Bugpowder>	Nah it's cause mp has the capital to really make a market
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Feb 08 20:52:52 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: it looks like mp has effectively made a market for selling options right now
Feb 08 20:53:11 <Bugpowder>	I have been very successful buying and selling options into the it
Feb 08 20:53:13 <Bugpowder>	Bot
Feb 08 20:53:16 <Ukto>	anyhow
Feb 08 20:53:19 <Ukto>	i really gotta get back to coding
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Feb 08 20:53:21 <Ukto>	my times runnignout
Feb 08 20:53:23 <Bugpowder>	But I may have just been lucky so far
Feb 08 20:53:27 <Bowjob>	no ones stopping you
Feb 08 20:54:17 <Bugpowder>	I would like to be an mpoe bot but u need at least 10,000 BTC to do it right
Feb 08 20:54:35 <Bugpowder>	With the deposit requirements for split orders
Feb 08 20:55:08 <Bugpowder>	I dont think
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Feb 08 20:55:28 <thestringpuller>	Yes to be an emporium you need at least 10,000 these days for a good bot
Feb 08 20:55:29 <Bugpowder>	The bot plays by the same deposit rules
Feb 08 20:55:37 <Bugpowder>	It seems
Feb 08 20:55:43 <Bugpowder>	To use a pooled
Feb 08 20:55:48 <Bugpowder>	Approach
Feb 08 20:56:00 <thestringpuller>	I'm sure you could make money with 100 BTC
Feb 08 20:56:03 <thestringpuller>	maybe not significant gains
Feb 08 20:56:35 <Bugpowder>	And only count the capital that is actually used when the optio
Feb 08 20:56:39 <Bugpowder>	S sell
Feb 08 20:56:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]
Feb 08 20:57:10 <Bugpowder>	Unlike me who must lock 1btc per contract created
Feb 08 20:58:01 <Bugpowder>	But I think u can still make money on it
Feb 08 20:58:43 <thestringpuller>	Whenever options are too expensive to purchase in regards to the volatility, I usually sell to the bot.
Feb 08 20:59:28 <Bugpowder>	Sell to me instead!
Feb 08 20:59:40 <thestringpuller>	will you pay more than the bot? :P
Feb 08 21:00:54 <Bugpowder>	Yes I have bids up
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Feb 08 21:03:38 <thestringpuller>	I'll take a look and talk to smickles, he's my broker.
Feb 08 21:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067861 = 2.9323 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11781 @ 0.00067886 = 7.9976 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:05:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16214 @ 0.00068206 = 11.0589 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:06:22 *	Ukto breaks thestringpuller
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Feb 08 21:07:01 <Ukto>	actuallly, if you see smickles (ping) let em know I need to talk to him
Feb 08 21:07:02 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 08 21:10:39 <smickles>	pong
Feb 08 21:11:47 <swhitt>	evoorhees: hi, are you around? sdice seems to be very behind right now
Feb 08 21:12:00 <evoorhees>	hey
Feb 08 21:12:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 33 @ 0.0099 = 0.3267 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:12:02 <evoorhees>	I'm here
Feb 08 21:12:28 <swhitt>	evoorhees: hey, sorry to bother you
Feb 08 21:12:34 <swhitt>	my bet: https://blockchain.info/tx/9f2fb7d64ce6c205ae75113123854d7ba71b435cecdc5428151bf2b01efefcf8
Feb 08 21:12:38 <swhitt>	17 confirmations
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Feb 08 21:13:05 <swhitt>	I checked out https://blockchain.info/address/1dice8EMZmqKvrGE4Qc9bUFf9PX3xaYDp and it seems to be replying very late to everyone
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Feb 08 21:14:20 <evoorhees>	yeah I apologize for the delay, the server is running slowly
Feb 08 21:14:24 <evoorhees>	we're checking on things
Feb 08 21:14:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23163 @ 0.00067211 = 15.5681 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:15:15 <swhitt>	evoorhees: no worries, I was just worried about possible ddos / doublespend attack
Feb 08 21:15:37 <evoorhees>	nah, that wouldn't slow the server down like this
Feb 08 21:15:50 <evoorhees>	but we're keeping an eye on things
Feb 08 21:16:08 <evoorhees>	we assume that people are always trying to doublespend and attack us :)
Feb 08 21:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006717 = 2.9024 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:16:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0006715 = 0.6715 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:16:18 <swhitt>	aok, thanks for responding personally. Makes me feel good about owning some s.dice :)
Feb 08 21:16:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5879 @ 0.00067149 = 3.9477 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:17:00 <evoorhees>	no problem, please always feel free to get in contact with me
Feb 08 21:17:36 <swhitt>	looks like people are starting to comment on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77870.1180 too
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Feb 08 21:23:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9125 @ 0.00067149 = 6.1273 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:23:12 <Bowjob>	http://25.media.tumblr.com/e45e90612ca90f7bd579402427745dff/tumblr_mggzznJlmZ1rb86ldo1_400.jpg
Feb 08 21:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4006 @ 0.00067018 = 2.6847 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:23:21 <Bowjob>	If this person bought bitcoins. they'd do well by now
Feb 08 21:23:41 <Bowjob>	then gamble it on dice.
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Feb 08 21:26:15 <Namworld>	350 shares for 180000? That's expensive.
Feb 08 21:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067207 = 2.904 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:26:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6853 @ 0.00067211 = 4.606 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:26:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00067844 = 7.5985 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:26:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2985 @ 0.00068206 = 2.0359 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:26:50 <Namworld>	I have 696 ASICMINER shares, 6000 USD only, anyone?
Feb 08 21:26:59 <Namworld>	Much cheaper!
Feb 08 21:27:01 <Bugpowder>	Lol nam
Feb 08 21:27:38 <Namworld>	They're literrally at that price right now.
Feb 08 21:28:03 <Namworld>	8.815 USD each
Feb 08 21:28:26 <Namworld>	Giving ASICMINER a 3.5 million USD valuation
Feb 08 21:29:05 <Namworld>	Although it's the first mining related asset that is not a mining operation but an ASIC manufacturer
Feb 08 21:29:15 <toffoo>	Namworld: where's that price/share coming from?
Feb 08 21:29:39 <Namworld>	Auction of said shares
Feb 08 21:29:50 <toffoo>	when?
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Feb 08 21:30:50 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141067.0
Feb 08 21:31:14 <Namworld>	Still going for at least 2-3 days, it's a week long auction
Feb 08 21:31:22 <Namworld>	up to 0.41 BTC per share
Feb 08 21:34:08 <toffoo>	what's your prediction for the closing auction price?
Feb 08 21:34:12 <Bugpowder>	Nam world
Feb 08 21:34:18 <Bugpowder>	It's so overpriced
Feb 08 21:34:19 <toffoo>	so are the shares transferable now or what's the deal?
Feb 08 21:34:35 <Bugpowder>	U r winning in this transaction
Feb 08 21:35:14 <Namworld>	Friedcat should get an exclusive platform to trade the shares rolled out I think
Feb 08 21:35:43 <Namworld>	I'll sign a receipt with my BTC address associated to the shares for friedcat. If he can switch his record right away, fine
Feb 08 21:35:56 <Namworld>	Otherwise I'll push dividends if they arrive before the trading platform.
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Feb 08 21:36:15 <Namworld>	I'll sign a receipt no matter what.
Feb 08 21:36:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067154 = 2.9017 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11542 @ 0.00067136 = 7.7488 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:37:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9637 @ 0.00067018 = 6.4585 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:38:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 679 @ 0.00067018 = 0.4551 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00067008 = 5.4947 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:38:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.0006695 = 1.4729 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16721 @ 0.00066932 = 11.1917 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067881 = 2.9331 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00067912 = 13.7861 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 21:46:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00067912 = 16.5026 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 21:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00067912 = 12.3939 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:50:45 <Bugpowder_>	are we really going thru 23 on a weekend?
Feb 08 21:50:48 <Bugpowder_>	amazing
Feb 08 21:51:15 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 08 21:51:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.62 = 3.1 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 21:57:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20251 @ 0.00068206 = 13.8124 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068182 = 2.9461 BTC [-]
Feb 08 21:57:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2578 @ 0.00068735 = 1.772 BTC [+]
Feb 08 21:59:14 <Bowjob>	oh wow. 22.87
Feb 08 21:59:27 <kakobreklaa>	again.
Feb 08 21:59:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm surprised
Feb 08 22:00:51 <ThickAsThieves>	ask on campbx is 23.49
Feb 08 22:01:12 <ThickAsThieves>	campbx has been super slow lately
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Feb 08 22:10:02 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: will you be able to read this SLA over the weekend/early next week it's really simple.
Feb 08 22:10:29 <thestringpuller>	Sorry it's taken so long we've been passing ideas back and forth and finally got around to finalizing it.
Feb 08 22:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068702 = 2.9686 BTC [-]
Feb 08 22:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15329 @ 0.00068735 = 10.5364 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 22:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067927 = 2.9351 BTC [-]
Feb 08 22:15:15 <DeadWeasel>	lotta dumping now.
Feb 08 22:15:58 <DeadWeasel>	so what do the different assets do on a weekend?  is there a weekend dip in them too?
Feb 08 22:16:07 <DeadWeasel>	probably a different animal
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Feb 08 22:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00067665 = 2.0976 BTC [-]
Feb 08 22:16:59 <Bugpowder_>	no
Feb 08 22:17:03 <Bugpowder_>	no dip
Feb 08 22:17:24 <Bugpowder_>	people don't need to deposit cash
Feb 08 22:17:25 <DeadWeasel>	no nothing probably.  i've seen practically zilch movement on bitfunder for sdice in several days.
Feb 08 22:17:27 <Bugpowder_>	to buy S.DICE
Feb 08 22:17:45 <DeadWeasel>	in total probably 6 orders.
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Feb 08 22:21:29 <Bowjob>	thats why you buy at havelock
Feb 08 22:21:29 <Bowjob>	lo
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Feb 08 22:39:49 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 08 22:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066932 / 0.00068421 / 0.00069956 (1542840 shares, 1,055.63 BTC), 7D: 0.0006535 / 0.00068636 / 0.0007 (16193123 shares, 11,114.46 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066488 / 0.0007 (62821104 shares, 41,769.00 BTC)
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Feb 08 22:46:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00067781 = 6.1003 BTC [+]
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Feb 08 22:56:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1222 @ 0.0056977 = 6.9626 BTC [+]
Feb 08 22:56:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00588188 = 4.7055 BTC [+]
Feb 08 22:56:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00593037 = 4.1513 BTC [+]
Feb 08 23:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067044 = 2.897 BTC [-]
Feb 08 23:03:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067022 = 2.896 BTC [-]
Feb 08 23:03:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9658 @ 0.00067012 = 6.472 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 23:05:14 <mjr_>	hi
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Feb 08 23:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00067012 = 15.9824 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 23:08:31 <mod6>	:]
Feb 08 23:10:19 <Namworld>	Hello
Feb 08 23:12:08 <Bowjob>	whale
Feb 08 23:13:43 <Namworld>	We all want 50 of those
Feb 08 23:16:47 <Bowjob>	it seems the baby whale got 7 thousand dollar sback
Feb 08 23:16:48 <Bowjob>	oh well
Feb 08 23:18:30 <Namworld>	so... 350 BTC?
Feb 08 23:18:51 <Namworld>	I am not moved by this
Feb 08 23:18:55 <Bowjob>	http://blockchain.info/address/1EAwKCEhyBcsZrZUPKYw8M4Lb8VM7Y1ep6
Feb 08 23:19:05 <Bowjob>	hes the only notable one playing right now
Feb 08 23:19:31 <Bowjob>	there will be more baby whales from rich kids of instagram
Feb 08 23:19:32 <Bowjob>	i hope
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Feb 08 23:28:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0061 BTC [+]
Feb 08 23:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30150 @ 0.00067231 = 20.2701 BTC [+]
Feb 08 23:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00067231 = 11.2276 BTC [+]
Feb 08 23:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16492 @ 0.00067012 = 11.0516 BTC [-]
Feb 08 23:43:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10729 @ 0.00066932 = 7.1811 BTC [-]
Feb 08 23:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.00066874 = 2.3934 BTC [-]
Feb 08 23:45:19 <mjr_>	what up
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Feb 08 23:48:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17818 @ 0.00066874 = 11.9156 BTC [-]
Feb 08 23:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28709 @ 0.00066712 = 19.1523 BTC [-]
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Feb 08 23:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.00067231 = 13.4126 BTC [+]
Feb 08 23:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067746 = 2.9273 BTC [+]
Feb 08 23:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4144 @ 0.00067781 = 2.8088 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3856 @ 0.00067781 = 2.6136 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14663 @ 0.00068254 = 10.0081 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3985 @ 0.00068352 = 2.7238 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:04:05 <pigeons>	http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108
Feb 09 00:04:09 <pigeons>	.title
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Feb 09 00:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00068197 = 3.478 BTC [-]
Feb 09 00:09:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6715 @ 0.00068352 = 4.5898 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:09:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6185 @ 0.00068451 = 4.2337 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21590 @ 0.00068183 = 14.7207 BTC [-]
Feb 09 00:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18010 @ 0.00067156 = 12.0948 BTC [-]
Feb 09 00:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7740 @ 0.00067156 = 5.1979 BTC [-]
Feb 09 00:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15492 @ 0.00066712 = 10.335 BTC [-]
Feb 09 00:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15515 @ 0.00068451 = 10.6202 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2385 @ 0.00068735 = 1.6393 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00068836 = 6.3673 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00619996 = 5.27 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:22:49 <Bowjob>	im glad dice went to 0.61
Feb 09 00:22:55 <Bowjob>	that xx5 was an eyesore
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Feb 09 00:26:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00066712 = 7.405 BTC [-]
Feb 09 00:28:09 <Namworld>	Yes... evoorhees should just leave those shares there
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Feb 09 00:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13631 @ 0.00066712 = 9.0935 BTC [-]
Feb 09 00:32:00 <Namworld>	They'll sell
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Feb 09 00:35:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.0006886 = 10.329 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:35:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00068861 = 1.1362 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:40:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 00:46:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00068861 = 3.8906 BTC [+]
Feb 09 00:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9084 @ 0.00068935 = 6.2621 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 00:52:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.62 = 3.72 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 01:05:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9166 @ 0.00068935 = 6.3186 BTC [+]
Feb 09 01:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.00069068 = 23.3795 BTC [+]
Feb 09 01:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15953 @ 0.00069287 = 11.0534 BTC [+]
Feb 09 01:05:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10831 @ 0.00069417 = 7.5186 BTC [+]
Feb 09 01:06:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4845 @ 0.0006868 = 3.3275 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 01:10:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.62 = 4.34 BTC [+]
Feb 09 01:16:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9255 @ 0.00067645 = 6.2605 BTC [-]
Feb 09 01:21:07 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: lol, the price is going up and up
Feb 09 01:23:19 <truffles>	euphoria
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Feb 09 01:25:40 <swhitt>	I think someone is manually confirming a bunch of bets
Feb 09 01:25:48 <swhitt>	because there hasn't been a block in 40= minutes
Feb 09 01:25:51 <swhitt>	40+
Feb 09 01:26:07 <swhitt>	someone just marked all of the bets by the whale as confirmed on sdice but they aren't in a block yet
Feb 09 01:27:01 <Namworld>	ASICMINER? yeah
Feb 09 01:27:14 <Namworld>	A few new offers tho on the auction forums
Feb 09 01:27:24 <Namworld>	starting at .30
Feb 09 01:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18895 @ 0.00068937 = 13.0256 BTC [+]
Feb 09 01:30:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00067267 = 7.1976 BTC [-]
Feb 09 01:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22610 @ 0.00066769 = 15.0965 BTC [-]
Feb 09 01:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31068 @ 0.00066712 = 20.7261 BTC [-]
Feb 09 01:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.000666 = 9.99 BTC [-]
Feb 09 01:34:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1191 @ 0.00066596 = 0.7932 BTC [-]
Feb 09 01:35:04 <swhitt>	nevermind I'm an idiot.
Feb 09 01:36:03 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: yeah, I dont have the cash for that
Feb 09 01:36:09 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: Ill just have to grab what I can
Feb 09 01:37:18 <Namworld>	The guy selling under 300 seems fine
Feb 09 01:37:26 <Namworld>	The 5000 stash might be too much
Feb 09 01:37:49 <Namworld>	They can be purchased in 100 increments tho I hear
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Feb 09 02:04:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1278 @ 0.006 = 7.668 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:04:43 <mircea_popescu>	a, back to 60 are we
Feb 09 02:06:04 <Bowjob>	yeap. the 5xx was an eyesore
Feb 09 02:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00066663 = 12.1327 BTC [+]
Feb 09 02:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8809 @ 0.00066596 = 5.8664 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066562 = 6.6562 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:07:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00066544 = 15.6378 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:07:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00066404 = 11.6871 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10494 @ 0.00066395 = 6.9675 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2892 @ 0.00066395 = 1.9201 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 02:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	so basically these two are converging lol
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Feb 09 02:12:07 <Bowjob>	the baby whale is down to 18k from 29k earlier
Feb 09 02:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	baby whale ;/
Feb 09 02:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	poor him.
Feb 09 02:12:19 <Bowjob>	i hope we dont scare the whale too much
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Feb 09 02:18:14 <Bowjob>	well i hope at least hes getting high for playing dice at least
Feb 09 02:18:18 <Bowjob>	it doesnt seem like a bot
Feb 09 02:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 09 02:25:20 <mircea_popescu>	should get pretty high for 10k
Feb 09 02:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	tho in his defense this is better than "investing" in mining
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Feb 09 02:25:49 <mircea_popescu>	he only lost 1/3 of his money and it didn't take three months.
Feb 09 02:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19795 @ 0.00067031 = 13.2688 BTC [+]
Feb 09 02:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2505 @ 0.00067267 = 1.685 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 02:27:46 <Bowjob>	see... imagine if those baby whales were multiplied by 50x from rich kids of instagram
Feb 09 02:27:53 <Bowjob>	happy shareholders everywhere
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Feb 09 02:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	The company that supplied electricity to the Super Bowl says the blackout that halted the big game was caused by a device it installed specially to prevent a power failure.
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Feb 09 02:33:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00067267 = 5.6841 BTC [+]
Feb 09 02:43:05 <truffles>	power ownage
Feb 09 02:46:48 <Ukto>	anyone else having issues with coinbr? is it a bitvps thing ?
Feb 09 02:47:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE just loaded that
Feb 09 02:49:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00066833 = 18.7801 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:49:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00066396 = 0.664 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6585 @ 0.00066395 = 4.3721 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16614 @ 0.00066341 = 11.0219 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23817 @ 0.00066273 = 15.7842 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10387 @ 0.00066053 = 6.8609 BTC [-]
Feb 09 02:50:42 <truffles>	everyone must be sleeping
Feb 09 02:52:36 <Ukto>	weird
Feb 09 02:53:05 <Ukto>	i just get connection timed out
Feb 09 02:53:08 <Ukto>	"The server at live.coinbr.com is taking too long to respond."
Feb 09 02:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	routing issue maybe ?
Feb 09 02:57:35 <truffles>	maybe its broken
Feb 09 02:58:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11277 @ 0.00067267 = 7.5857 BTC [+]
Feb 09 02:58:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3634 @ 0.00067738 = 2.4616 BTC [+]
Feb 09 02:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	i just loaded it again. seems fine.
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Feb 09 03:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6266 @ 0.00067738 = 4.2445 BTC [+]
Feb 09 03:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6584 @ 0.00069207 = 4.5566 BTC [+]
Feb 09 03:01:00 <truffles>	any more reddit complaints mp?
Feb 09 03:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00066568 = 12.5148 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 03:16:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00066568 = 5.4586 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	i haven't been watching. are there ?
Feb 09 03:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133 @ 0.00066568 = 0.0885 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1763 @ 0.00066053 = 1.1645 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:18:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00066053 = 6.4402 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13554 @ 0.00065996 = 8.9451 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7196 @ 0.00065996 = 4.7491 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9304 @ 0.00065961 = 6.137 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 696 @ 0.00065961 = 0.4591 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:21:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00065923 = 13.1846 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:21:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5104 @ 0.00065896 = 3.3633 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:24:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0061 BTC [+]
Feb 09 03:25:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00065896 = 8.896 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00066936 = 14.592 BTC [+]
Feb 09 03:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1896 @ 0.00065896 = 1.2494 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:35:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00065706 = 10.0859 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13304 @ 0.00065502 = 8.7144 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:39:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10991 @ 0.00065502 = 7.1993 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:39:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065468 = 6.5468 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 03:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-trolling-something-awful-competition/
Feb 09 03:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone's interested...
Feb 09 03:57:32 <truffles>	i got this !
Feb 09 03:57:37 <truffles>	oh let me read
Feb 09 03:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	truffles put it on reddit if you have an acct.
Feb 09 03:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	let's spread the joy :D
Feb 09 03:58:15 <truffles>	no acct
Feb 09 03:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00065241 = 2.3487 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.0006524 = 15.9186 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:58:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6731 @ 0.00065178 = 4.3871 BTC [-]
Feb 09 03:58:57 <truffles>	prefer to lurk in certain forums, too many nazis
Feb 09 03:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Feb 09 03:59:38 <truffles>	u got banned?
Feb 09 04:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	well, technically mpoe-pr got me banned
Feb 09 04:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	but yeah.
Feb 09 04:01:40 <truffles>	tl dr?
Feb 09 04:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	no such thing.
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Feb 09 04:03:35 <truffles>	so um i dont get it
Feb 09 04:04:37 <mircea_popescu>	well internet trollery stuff isn't for everyone.
Feb 09 04:05:00 <truffles>	how long is would one have to commit to this
Feb 09 04:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3769 @ 0.00065178 = 2.4566 BTC [-]
Feb 09 04:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00065101 = 7.1286 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 04:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	you don't stand a chance of success if you're not already very good at it.
Feb 09 04:06:40 <truffles>	meh
Feb 09 04:06:51 <truffles>	i wouldnt wanna be considered an excellent troll
Feb 09 04:09:07 <truffles>	ofc i can be bought, so i will think it over, just spent the day doing clean win7 instal fml
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Feb 09 04:11:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 30 @ 0.3498 = 10.494 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 04:11:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.3498 = 1.3992 BTC [+]
Feb 09 04:12:27 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142038.0
Feb 09 04:12:28 <Diablo-D3>	I wish.
Feb 09 04:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	truffles so move to linux
Feb 09 04:14:23 <truffles>	yea.. but i dont know how to use it so i will have to learn that 1st
Feb 09 04:15:17 <truffles>	how many years til asic become meaningless?
Feb 09 04:15:47 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: never
Feb 09 04:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	they never will. asic is the end game technology. asic simply means, specially made chip
Feb 09 04:16:01 <Diablo-D3>	the question you meant to ask was
Feb 09 04:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand, the current crop of crap will be lucky to get 6 months,.
Feb 09 04:16:05 <Diablo-D3>	when do new asics kill old asics
Feb 09 04:16:11 <Diablo-D3>	about a year.
Feb 09 04:16:17 <Diablo-D3>	assuming anyone makes new asics
Feb 09 04:16:30 <truffles>	just get a new pc each yr?
Feb 09 04:17:00 <Diablo-D3>	someone would have to jump to 45nm to win
Feb 09 04:19:40 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I bid on the other two lol
Feb 09 04:19:59 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: see any other threads selling asicminer shares?
Feb 09 04:20:36 <truffles>	losing 30k real money in a play money arena, sick!
Feb 09 04:21:49 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: hopefully it'd start a bidding war on those
Feb 09 04:22:06 <Diablo-D3>	I wish I had more money though, I'd just outbid everyone
Feb 09 04:22:50 <truffles>	i guess if the difficulty increases could be good investment to get as much early as possible even if the new releases are faster
Feb 09 04:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is the reason you don't have money : you waste it if you do.
Feb 09 04:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	truffles it'd be cheaper to trade diff futures.
Feb 09 04:23:42 <truffles>	or to let me gamble with it
Feb 09 04:23:52 <truffles>	wouldve at least doubled that!
Feb 09 04:25:06 <truffles>	diablo is it an investment or do u purchase a spare ?
Feb 09 04:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00065101 = 4.7849 BTC [-]
Feb 09 04:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00065058 = 13.0767 BTC [-]
Feb 09 04:27:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.0006494 = 3.0197 BTC [-]
Feb 09 04:27:48 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: an investment
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Feb 09 04:29:28 <truffles>	risky still (depending on how much ure investing) if the asics dont increase with level of difficulty long term
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Feb 09 04:31:01 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: only about 250 btc, its not much
Feb 09 04:31:11 <truffles>	orly
Feb 09 04:31:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00065277 = 3.6555 BTC [+]
Feb 09 04:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3059 @ 0.00065277 = 1.9968 BTC [+]
Feb 09 04:36:09 <truffles>	how many pizzas could that get hmmm
Feb 09 04:39:43 <Namworld>	250*22.6=5650 USD, divided by 10 USD = 565 pizzas
Feb 09 04:40:02 <truffles>	nom nom nom
Feb 09 04:40:40 <Namworld>	If you take frozen ones from the supermarket when they're in special, that's almost 2000 pizzas
Feb 09 04:41:08 <truffles>	yea but we r only talking bitcoin pizzas
Feb 09 04:41:22 <Namworld>	enough to eat 3 pizzas a day for 2 years and die from heart diseases.
Feb 09 04:41:34 <Namworld>	ah, well I guess dominos
Feb 09 04:41:43 <Namworld>	10 USD. 565 BTC pizzas
Feb 09 04:41:57 <truffles>	id want variety though
Feb 09 04:42:06 <Namworld>	Dominos has variety
Feb 09 04:42:18 <truffles>	true
Feb 09 04:42:19 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: actually
Feb 09 04:42:25 <truffles>	can u buy apples
Feb 09 04:42:30 <Diablo-D3>	I got some for $4 that are normally $10
Feb 09 04:42:37 <Diablo-D3>	they were pretty good though
Feb 09 04:42:39 <truffles>	omg
Feb 09 04:42:50 <Diablo-D3>	I hate frozen pizza, but I tried them
Feb 09 04:42:54 <Diablo-D3>	they wernt bad
Feb 09 04:43:01 <Namworld>	Some brands aren't bad
Feb 09 04:43:07 <Diablo-D3>	Ive tried every band
Feb 09 04:43:09 <Diablo-D3>	they're all shit
Feb 09 04:43:12 <truffles>	ure letting go of possibly 3+ years of pizza then
Feb 09 04:43:16 <Diablo-D3>	they usually ruin the sauce
Feb 09 04:43:20 <truffles>	its all the same pizza!
Feb 09 04:43:25 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: yes, but I can probably make this all back in 2 years.
Feb 09 04:43:33 <truffles>	omg 2 years
Feb 09 04:43:39 <truffles>	face palm
Feb 09 04:43:39 <Diablo-D3>	and I need it to fix DMC
Feb 09 04:44:09 <Namworld>	Getting 100% over two year is excellent
Feb 09 04:44:19 <Namworld>	Although this might never happen
Feb 09 04:44:28 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs
Feb 09 04:44:35 <truffles>	dunno how the numbers work ..
Feb 09 04:44:41 <Namworld>	But the only mining stock that could achieve anything it seems is that ASICMINER
Feb 09 04:45:00 <Namworld>	It's a share of a manufacturer of mining hardware.
Feb 09 04:45:09 <truffles>	can bitcoins buy apples anywhere
Feb 09 04:45:32 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: this is why I wished people shut up when I was selling dmc at massive discounts to get asicminer shares
Feb 09 04:45:50 <Namworld>	yeah, I did that trade
Feb 09 04:45:59 <Diablo-D3>	it was worth every penny
Feb 09 04:46:08 <truffles>	that sounds shady
Feb 09 04:46:09 <Namworld>	I should have kept my ASICMINERs
Feb 09 04:46:35 <truffles>	but obv within ur rights to do
Feb 09 04:46:36 <Namworld>	yeah, but you should have sold DMC market price and just bought ASICMINERs yourself. Better deal
Feb 09 04:46:44 <Diablo-D3>	no one was paying at market price
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Feb 09 04:46:57 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, I could have just crashed the market
Feb 09 04:46:58 <Namworld>	I guess
Feb 09 04:47:00 <Diablo-D3>	that would have been hilarious
Feb 09 04:47:23 <truffles>	can bitcoins buy apples (to eat) anywhere?
Feb 09 04:50:00 <Namworld>	Trade a bitcoin with someone for a 20 bill then buy an apple.
Feb 09 04:50:21 <truffles>	direct payment
Feb 09 04:50:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16971 @ 0.00066176 = 11.2307 BTC [+]
Feb 09 04:50:56 <Namworld>	Go at a bitcoiner's home and offer .10 BTC for an apple. Almost all will have apples in their fridges that have been there for a while
Feb 09 04:51:28 <truffles>	knock knock oh hey doyou have bitcoins?
Feb 09 04:51:40 <truffles>	or do you accept bitcoins here
Feb 09 04:52:03 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: you should have shut up about the other two threads though
Feb 09 04:52:24 <mircea_popescu>	why would one pay .1 btc for an apple ?!
Feb 09 04:52:26 <truffles>	diablo get him banned next time, win win
Feb 09 04:52:46 <truffles>	not for namworld but for you and the ppl buying right
Feb 09 04:52:47 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I was hoping to get outbid completely so I could drive the price up on the others        as well
Feb 09 04:53:33 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: too bad I couldnt bid using those btc-mining shares =P
Feb 09 04:54:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00066176 = 7.9411 BTC [+]
Feb 09 04:54:49 <truffles>	"apple prices up,supplies down due to spring freezing"
Feb 09 04:56:35 <truffles>	1 dollar a pound..
Feb 09 04:56:41 <truffles>	dunno the ratios there
Feb 09 04:57:10 <truffles>	.1btc might be a bit much though
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Feb 09 04:58:30 <Namworld>	inb4 inflation. USD priced like Yens
Feb 09 04:58:53 <Namworld>	Now each little thing would cost hundreds
Feb 09 04:59:00 <Namworld>	Hello DeaDTerra
Feb 09 04:59:15 <Namworld>	Seems like I'll be giving you a bit of competition
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Feb 09 05:01:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.0007 = 0.0021 BTC
Feb 09 05:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	ok, sooo... anyone with a cc want to buy me $10 worth of shit for btc ?
Feb 09 05:02:44 <Namworld>	Hmm... no... no one would want to do that
Feb 09 05:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	...
Feb 09 05:03:17 <truffles>	there is someone out there
Feb 09 05:04:40 <DeaDTerra>	Hello :)
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Feb 09 05:04:47 <DeaDTerra>	Yes I heard of your PT, how is it going?
Feb 09 05:05:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1620 @ 0.00066176 = 1.0721 BTC [+]
Feb 09 05:05:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00065024 = 9.1359 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 05:07:35 <DeaDTerra>	it's on BTCT right?
Feb 09 05:08:10 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 09 05:08:17 <Namworld>	Starting to get a bit of volume
Feb 09 05:09:00 <Namworld>	I came after the buying frenzy tho, mostly
Feb 09 05:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	teh incredible, nobody wants to ?!
Feb 09 05:09:18 <mircea_popescu>	wtf, at this rate i'm gonna have to go to -otc or some shit.
Feb 09 05:09:39 <DeaDTerra>	Okay how many shares have you sold so far?
Feb 09 05:09:52 <Namworld>	5800
Feb 09 05:09:59 <DeaDTerra>	ah oki ^^
Feb 09 05:10:25 <Namworld>	1200 vs 2291 for you on 24h
Feb 09 05:10:38 <Namworld>	I kind of arrived with the 0.0062 block
Feb 09 05:10:38 <Anduck>	btw i have 100 ASICMINER for sale too
Feb 09 05:10:48 <Namworld>	0.01 BTC each!
Feb 09 05:10:51 <Namworld>	lol
Feb 09 05:10:56 <Anduck>	noo
Feb 09 05:11:02 <DeaDTerra>	Most of my recent volume has been with private deals.
Feb 09 05:11:03 <Anduck>	will sell for the highest price =)))
Feb 09 05:11:08 <DeaDTerra>	I am currenct at 1,4 mill shares
Feb 09 05:11:15 <Namworld>	Have you seen the price of ASICMINERs, DeaDTerra?
Feb 09 05:11:21 <DeaDTerra>	yes :)
Feb 09 05:11:24 <DeaDTerra>	0.4 ish right?
Feb 09 05:11:28 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 09 05:11:38 <Anduck>	i am selling mine for 1 btc each
Feb 09 05:11:38 <Anduck>	!
Feb 09 05:11:39 <DeaDTerra>	I bought those suckers for 0.088 ^^
Feb 09 05:11:46 <Anduck>	i bought dem at 0.1
Feb 09 05:11:50 <Namworld>	Mine reach that and bids are now stalling.
Feb 09 05:11:54 <DeaDTerra>	and I underwrote about 30k+ of them ^^
Feb 09 05:12:41 <Namworld>	Eh
Feb 09 05:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Feb 09 05:12:55 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Feb 09 05:12:56 <Anduck>	hey any1 live near microcenter?
Feb 09 05:12:58 <Anduck>	pm me if u do
Feb 09 05:13:04 <Ukto>	>,>
Feb 09 05:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5dd4230e960e50c19473c23984b92b1ae018141c36129dd0ef3a615f
Feb 09 05:13:25 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Feb 09 05:13:38 <mircea_popescu>	what's gribble's tradebook syntax again ?
Feb 09 05:13:45 <Namworld>	1.4 million, not bad
Feb 09 05:14:43 <DeaDTerra>	Yea I expanded by 100% with these recent released shares :D
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Feb 09 05:15:27 <Namworld>	Do you push shares to MPEx on requests?
Feb 09 05:15:33 <DeaDTerra>	yep
Feb 09 05:15:38 <Namworld>	Thought so
Feb 09 05:15:56 <Namworld>	So will I. I see people buying 10s of Ks tho
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Feb 09 05:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;buy "1 SA gift cert" for .5 BTC (You will have to make a 9.95 credit card payment on https://secure.somethingawful.com/products/gift-certificate.php?product_type=register )
Feb 09 05:16:02 <gribble>	Error: '1 SA gift cert' is not a valid positive floating point number.
Feb 09 05:16:05 <Namworld>	Not sure why they don't take an MPEx account
Feb 09 05:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	doh
Feb 09 05:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;buy 1 "SA gift cert" for .5 BTC (You will have to make a 9.95 credit card payment on https://secure.somethingawful.com/products/gift-certificate.php?product_type=register )
Feb 09 05:16:12 <gribble>	Error: 'for' is not a valid price input.
Feb 09 05:16:26 <DeaDTerra>	To get back 30 BTC from dividends is going to take a while
Feb 09 05:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;buy 1 "SA gift cert" .5 BTC (You will have to make a 9.95 credit card payment on https://secure.somethingawful.com/products/gift-certificate.php?product_type=register )
Feb 09 05:16:26 <gribble>	Order id 13393 created.
Feb 09 05:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;list 13393
Feb 09 05:16:32 <gribble>	Error: '13393' is not a valid plugin.
Feb 09 05:16:38 <DeaDTerra>	for some certain people I guess it's more profitable to tkae the 5% dividend
Feb 09 05:17:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;order 13393
Feb 09 05:17:04 <gribble>	Error: "order" is not a valid command.
Feb 09 05:17:12 <Namworld>	I guess if they can't be bothered with command line or 30 BTC fee
Feb 09 05:17:26 <DeaDTerra>	I think it might be a bit of both :P
Feb 09 05:18:33 <Namworld>	Possibly... I might undermine your passthrough tho. I see occasional dumps. I might put bids on it =P
Feb 09 05:18:38 <Namworld>	and ask for transfers =/
Feb 09 05:18:54 <Namworld>	Wherever cheap shares are...
Feb 09 05:19:06 <truffles>	lol command fails
Feb 09 05:19:21 <DeaDTerra>	it's a open market you do as you wish.
Feb 09 05:19:29 <DeaDTerra>	but I won't sit and transfer 1 share at a time
Feb 09 05:19:37 <DeaDTerra>	so make sure you get a good amount before transfering
Feb 09 05:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;view 13393
Feb 09 05:20:21 <gribble>	#13393 Sat Feb  9 02:16:26 2013 mircea_popescu BUY 1.0 SA gift cert @ 0.5 BTC ((You will have to make a 9.95 credit card payment on https://secure.somethingawful.com/products/gift-certificate.php?product_type=register ))
Feb 09 05:20:26 <Namworld>	Yeah, would probably be at least 5k or more
Feb 09 05:20:37 <Namworld>	otherwise I'll try to resell through the passthrough
Feb 09 05:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12363 @ 0.00064998 = 8.0357 BTC [-]
Feb 09 05:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00066409 = 8.766 BTC [+]
Feb 09 05:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6237 @ 0.00066417 = 4.1424 BTC [+]
Feb 09 05:21:47 <mircea_popescu>	someone be a darling and go  ;;view 13393 in #bitcoin-otc
Feb 09 05:21:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0061 = 0.0305 BTC [+]
Feb 09 05:24:24 <Namworld>	works
Feb 09 05:27:39 <Namworld>	It has caught a fish
Feb 09 05:27:43 <Namworld>	Reeling in
Feb 09 05:28:12 <Namworld>	Looks more like a raccoon but anyway
Feb 09 05:29:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.0007 = 0.0014 BTC
Feb 09 05:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	lol what ?!
Feb 09 05:32:13 <Namworld>	Has the said raccoon not PMed you?
Feb 09 05:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	yes a few ppl have
Feb 09 05:33:15 <mircea_popescu>	and i'm doing it with all :)
Feb 09 05:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	tyvm for posting it there Namworld
Feb 09 05:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00065924 = 16.1514 BTC [-]
Feb 09 05:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00065461 = 1.4729 BTC [-]
Feb 09 05:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate petertodd 1 bought me SA gift cert.
Feb 09 05:36:14 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user petertodd has been recorded.
Feb 09 05:37:07 <Namworld>	lol... paying yourself some "entertainment" tickets?
Feb 09 05:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	yup.
Feb 09 05:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	what's the point of being rich if you're not gonna have fun ?
Feb 09 05:38:24 <Namworld>	I wonder
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Feb 09 05:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate PochiRaccoon 1 bought me SA gift cert.
Feb 09 05:39:57 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PochiRaccoon has been recorded.
Feb 09 05:39:58 <truffles>	oh but u couldnt buy it with playmonies
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Feb 09 05:45:52 <mircea_popescu>	ah this is fun.
Feb 09 05:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.0006602 = 7.3612 BTC [+]
Feb 09 05:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00066417 = 7.0402 BTC [+]
Feb 09 05:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00066256 = 13.0193 BTC [-]
Feb 09 06:01:31 <Namworld>	keep us updated =/
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Feb 09 06:09:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8904 @ 0.00066256 = 5.8994 BTC [-]
Feb 09 06:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11046 @ 0.00066417 = 7.3364 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 06:16:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00619995 = 6.2 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:16:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6512 @ 0.00619996 = 40.3741 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:16:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00619997 = 12.3999 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 30611 @ 0.00619998 = 189.7876 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50218 @ 0.00619999 = 311.3511 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000000 @ 0.0062 = 6200 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:16:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1144 @ 0.00639987 = 7.3215 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:16:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8515 @ 0.0064 = 54.496 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	a well then there goes that thing...
Feb 09 06:17:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1017 @ 0.00066417 = 0.6755 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:17:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00066435 = 13.4863 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 06:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4583 @ 0.0006662 = 3.0532 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:18:09 <Namworld>	LOL
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Feb 09 06:18:36 <Namworld>	evoorhees might now heed my advice and just put the next slices and leave them there
Feb 09 06:21:26 <DeadWeasel>	I have 4 ft of snow on the deck.
Feb 09 06:21:30 <DeadWeasel>	and btc is 23
Feb 09 06:21:32 <DeadWeasel>	what a night
Feb 09 06:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Feb 09 06:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18393 @ 0.0006662 = 12.2534 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00066755 = 4.0721 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00066932 = 3.3466 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00066936 = 9.438 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59500 @ 0.00067011 = 39.8715 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00067157 = 6.9507 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00067369 = 8.8927 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.00067534 = 10.7717 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12122 @ 0.00067738 = 8.2112 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28114 @ 0.00067834 = 19.0709 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00068018 = 4.5912 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00068107 = 12.123 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00068437 = 7.8703 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8289 @ 0.00069125 = 5.7298 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2016 @ 0.00069207 = 1.3952 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069416 = 3.4708 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15069 @ 0.00069417 = 10.4604 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00069437 = 16.9426 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3233 @ 0.00069506 = 2.2471 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00069517 = 0.6952 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00069517 = 0.8342 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:22:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069532 = 6.9532 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:23:01 <Namworld>	and MPEx stock is going well to top it
Feb 09 06:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33673 @ 0.00069533 = 23.4138 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16308 @ 0.00069566 = 11.3448 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, buying continues
Feb 09 06:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00069772 = 8.582 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:23:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00069848 = 10.3724 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069955 = 3.4978 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:23:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27137 @ 0.00069956 = 18.984 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:23:16 <Namworld>	Someone had a few spare BTC
Feb 09 06:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10473 @ 0.00069998 = 7.3309 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:23:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130000 @ 0.00069999 = 90.9987 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:23:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1811173 @ 0.0007 = 1267.8211 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	what's this, like 10k total huh
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Feb 09 06:24:21 <Namworld>	Maybe more 8.5k
Feb 09 06:24:49 <Namworld>	6.2k + 1.2k + a couple of 1-20
Feb 09 06:25:01 <mircea_popescu>	i see 300, 189 etc
Feb 09 06:25:04 <Namworld>	+190 + 300
Feb 09 06:25:08 <mircea_popescu>	but yeah, 9kish
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Feb 09 06:26:57 <Bowjob>	did we seriously hit 23
Feb 09 06:26:57 <Bowjob>	wtf
Feb 09 06:27:02 <DeadWeasel>	haha
Feb 09 06:27:16 <Bowjob>	someone stop this rally or s.dice will be worth shit
Feb 09 06:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	how do you figure ?
Feb 09 06:27:33 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 09 06:27:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.10404, Best ask: 23.29997, Bid-ask spread: 0.19593, Last trade: 23.10202, 24 hour volume: 36833.45264397, 24 hour low: 22.22000, 24 hour high: 23.40000, 24 hour vwap: 22.68361
Feb 09 06:27:48 <Bowjob>	suppose we go to the moon
Feb 09 06:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Feb 09 06:27:53 <Bowjob>	1 btc = 500 dollars
Feb 09 06:28:02 <Bowjob>	how much did we pay for S.Dice again?
Feb 09 06:28:11 <Namworld>	I'll sell 200 BTC and retire
Feb 09 06:28:15 <Bowjob>	1.6 dollars each by todays standards
Feb 09 06:28:16 <Namworld>	xD
Feb 09 06:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 09 06:28:23 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004321 / 0.00618952 / 0.0064 (1239961 shares, 7,674.77 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.005829 / 0.007395 (4614610 shares, 26,898.59 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00548477 / 0.0075 (9062644 shares, 49,706.54 BTC)
Feb 09 06:28:31 <Bowjob>	But.. What if.. what iff
Feb 09 06:28:34 <mircea_popescu>	like 545k btc on avg prices.
Feb 09 06:28:38 <Bowjob>	I mean
Feb 09 06:28:53 <Bowjob>	What do you think will happen to the volume
Feb 09 06:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea. maybe it drops, maybe the huge btc market cap encourages some large whale to get involved
Feb 09 06:29:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.62 = 6.2 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:29:54 <Bowjob>	it all boils down if S.Dice can keep up with BTC price appreciation
Feb 09 06:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	in principle btc getting bigger isn't necessarily a bad thing
Feb 09 06:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	why do you think everyone who wants to play on sdice already does ?
Feb 09 06:30:51 <Bowjob>	not everyones heard of dice
Feb 09 06:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 09 06:31:04 <Bowjob>	im not sure if erik will take my suggestion seriously
Feb 09 06:31:33 <Bowjob>	he said it was a good idea, dunno if he was gonna go thru advertising on rkoi
Feb 09 06:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	what's rkoi ?
Feb 09 06:32:23 <Bowjob>	rich kids of instagram
Feb 09 06:33:31 <mircea_popescu>	no idea wtf that is but anyway
Feb 09 06:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30901 @ 0.00067494 = 20.8563 BTC [-]
Feb 09 06:39:43 <Bowjob>	Total Received 	$ 322,730.90 	 Final Balance 	$ 13,647.46 	
Feb 09 06:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25995 @ 0.000669 = 17.3907 BTC [-]
Feb 09 06:40:06 <Bowjob>	Our baby whale has been gambling non stop. I will weep for his money and celebrate the profits later
Feb 09 06:40:17 <Bowjob>	I love all pennies equally
Feb 09 06:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60000 @ 0.000669 = 40.14 BTC [-]
Feb 09 06:41:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5975 @ 0.000669 = 3.9973 BTC [-]
Feb 09 06:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob this is since hwne ?
Feb 09 06:48:00 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker --last
Feb 09 06:48:01 <gribble>	23.19437
Feb 09 06:48:06 <Bowjob>	Umm, hes been playing for at least 12 hours now
Feb 09 06:48:10 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Feb 09 06:48:11 <assbot>	These beans is shit.
Feb 09 06:48:18 <Bowjob>	I woke up, he was there
Feb 09 06:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Feb 09 06:48:44 <Bowjob>	He bets 2-3 btc each
Feb 09 06:48:49 <Bowjob>	Maybe he took a break
Feb 09 06:48:53 <Bowjob>	but hes still playing right now
Feb 09 06:50:51 <Bowjob>	When I first saw him he was at 29, then 20
Feb 09 06:50:54 <Bowjob>	now 13
Feb 09 06:51:14 <Bowjob>	I wonder what's going through his mind right now.
Feb 09 06:51:25 <Anduck>	_must bet all on red_
Feb 09 06:51:43 <Bowjob>	I was a bet for 1.234567 BTC
Feb 09 06:51:48 <Namworld>	He's like angry-happy-angry-happy-angry-happy
Feb 09 06:51:53 <Bowjob>	dat transaction fee
Feb 09 06:51:55 <Namworld>	depending on win/loss
Feb 09 06:52:04 <Bowjob>	More like.. angry angry angry x 20
Feb 09 06:52:08 <Bowjob>	then happy-angry
Feb 09 06:52:14 <Bowjob>	then angy x20
Feb 09 06:52:22 <Namworld>	when he runs out he'll be: pff... that was fun
Feb 09 06:52:44 <Anduck>	hahahaha now i remember
Feb 09 06:52:48 <Anduck>	i bet 10 btc on something
Feb 09 06:52:51 <Anduck>	at bitbet
Feb 09 06:52:53 <Bowjob>	well, I read that gamblers get a kick
Feb 09 06:52:57 <Bowjob>	similar to drugs
Feb 09 06:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00067811 = 1.5597 BTC [+]
Feb 09 06:53:03 <Anduck>	i think it was that bfl will not deliver what they said in time
Feb 09 06:53:05 <Bowjob>	heart racing, cant think
Feb 09 06:53:42 <Namworld>	Ah, same as when I spend a BTC or two on SealsWithClubs
Feb 09 06:53:43 <Bowjob>	I'm surprised he's not martingaleing
Feb 09 06:53:47 <Namworld>	just for the thrill
Feb 09 06:54:05 <Namworld>	I'm a bad player, I always lose it =P
Feb 09 06:54:19 <Namworld>	I still come back every few week for an evening of poker
Feb 09 06:54:28 <Bowjob>	I actually managed to win a bit
Feb 09 06:54:40 <Bowjob>	despite not knowing what fold, check or whatever buttons meant
Feb 09 06:54:44 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 09 06:54:47 <Bowjob>	I just did all in
Feb 09 06:54:48 <Bowjob>	and I won
Feb 09 06:54:50 <Bowjob>	then cashed out
Feb 09 06:55:01 <Bowjob>	It was a free chip code.. lol
Feb 09 06:55:20 <Namworld>	xD
Feb 09 06:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 09 06:57:14 <Bowjob>	I wanted to bet btc in a game.. where I actually play the game
Feb 09 06:57:25 <Bowjob>	but bitcoiners dont play videogames :/
Feb 09 06:57:51 <Namworld>	I wanted to make bets on matches of strategy game
Feb 09 06:57:52 <Bowjob>	well, theres this dude who sells steam games for bitcoin but
Feb 09 06:58:23 <Bowjob>	I feel like I'd rake a lot of BTC if the game is street fighter iv.. lol
Feb 09 06:58:34 <Namworld>	But I'm a good and well ranked players and no bitcoiner seems to have heard of it so no one wants to have a match against me xD
Feb 09 06:58:49 <Bowjob>	which game
Feb 09 06:59:06 <Namworld>	I even offered a winning prize to anyone who could defeat me, no entry fee. No one to play me
Feb 09 06:59:51 <Namworld>	http://weewar.com/
Feb 09 07:00:10 <Namworld>	turn based strategy game
Feb 09 07:00:28 <Bowjob>	ah..
Feb 09 07:00:41 <Bowjob>	I used to play this game.. Tactics Arena
Feb 09 07:00:43 <Bowjob>	heard of it?
Feb 09 07:00:51 <Bowjob>	It's a tbs game, flash based.
Feb 09 07:01:09 <Namworld>	I think so
Feb 09 07:01:15 <Namworld>	Haven't really played
Feb 09 07:01:18 <Anduck>	namnam, do u live near a microcenter??
Feb 09 07:01:23 <Anduck>	would earn u some bucks if u did
Feb 09 07:02:56 <Bowjob>	Okay, our baby whale stopped for now. Maybe it's bed time for him
Feb 09 07:03:07 <Bowjob>	or her
Feb 09 07:03:32 <Bowjob>	13k left.. I hope he calls his whale parents
Feb 09 07:03:36 <Namworld>	What's a microcenter?
Feb 09 07:04:54 <Bowjob>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mongolian_woman_condemned_to_die_of_starvation_%28retouched%29.jpg
Feb 09 07:05:01 <Bowjob>	This pic is mesmerizing
Feb 09 07:06:02 <Namworld>	I'd be gnawing at the wood if I were her
Feb 09 07:06:23 <DeadWeasel>	damn
Feb 09 07:06:48 <Bowjob>	I saw it on an evil site
Feb 09 07:07:27 <Bowjob>	There's two bowls, I assume for water?
Feb 09 07:07:45 <Namworld>	Here's a bit of bitsy music for all the bitcoiners out there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_p3-8fTo0
Feb 09 07:08:28 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: it shall be sad if no one outbids me
Feb 09 07:08:45 <Namworld>	Aye?
Feb 09 07:09:06 <Namworld>	At this price, I'd be sad if it would go any higher, for whoever is buying.
Feb 09 07:09:43 <Namworld>	I was expecting .25, not attaining near .45 like in Usagi's thread
Feb 09 07:10:23 <Namworld>	I should have put all BTC-MINING funds in ASICMINER when it came around instead
Feb 09 07:10:31 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Feb 09 07:10:33 <Namworld>	over 20 000 ASICMINER shares that would have been
Feb 09 07:10:37 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Feb 09 07:11:07 <Namworld>	Although at the time it wasn't around yet
Feb 09 07:11:15 <Namworld>	Plus there was still doubts
Feb 09 07:11:31 <Namworld>	Was the only ASIC manufacturer shares instead of bonds/mining op
Feb 09 07:11:37 <Anduck>	Namworld: microcenter is a electronics store
Feb 09 07:11:53 <Namworld>	The mining hardware seller is usually the winning side in bitcoin mining it seems
Feb 09 07:12:01 <Namworld>	Although .42 is a bit steep...
Feb 09 07:12:15 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: well, if they outbid me I can quit bidding on it and chase after those 5k
Feb 09 07:12:35 <Anduck>	Diablo-D3: i got 100 shares for sale, how much ya would pay for them?
Feb 09 07:12:42 <Anduck>	i dont atm know how much u are bidding
Feb 09 07:13:08 <Diablo-D3>	Anduck: put a thread up in auctions and I'll bid on it
Feb 09 07:13:16 <Anduck>	hmm
Feb 09 07:13:52 <Diablo-D3>	look at Namworld's thread as a template
Feb 09 07:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067812 = 6.7812 BTC [+]
Feb 09 07:13:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00067811 = 11.5618 BTC [-]
Feb 09 07:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067811 = 6.7811 BTC [-]
Feb 09 07:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00067781 = 3.4229 BTC [-]
Feb 09 07:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00067236 = 7.6985 BTC [-]
Feb 09 07:14:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066314 = 6.6314 BTC [-]
Feb 09 07:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00066314 = 13.2628 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 07:41:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8293 @ 0.00066036 = 5.4764 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 07:47:15 <Bowjob>	our whale is now 11k
Feb 09 07:47:21 <Bowjob>	Please.. stop now little whale
Feb 09 07:47:44 <DeadWeasel>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:496d252b310bac3783e06abad7e9965ed6dc6d1bab9d6f1bb321569a
Feb 09 07:47:44 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Feb 09 07:47:44 <EskimoBob>	whales? Where?
Feb 09 07:48:24 <Bowjob>	oh its nothing. its just a baby whale
Feb 09 07:48:25 <Bowjob>	http://blockchain.info/address/1EAwKCEhyBcsZrZUPKYw8M4Lb8VM7Y1ep6
Feb 09 07:48:25 <Bowjob>	see
Feb 09 07:49:07 <Bowjob>	hes down to 1/3rd of his meat left.. from what I saw earlier
Feb 09 07:52:43 <error4733>	bowjob: the 1M block is sold ?? or evoorees remove him ?
Feb 09 07:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 it tickered earlier.
Feb 09 07:54:09 <error4733>	yep but i just open the # now, i saw the order in live.coinbr but just want to confirm
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Feb 09 07:54:50 <DeadWeasel>	;;rate 1 mircea_popescu
Feb 09 07:54:50 <gribble>	Error: 'mircea_popescu' is not a valid integer.
Feb 09 07:55:08 <error4733>	100btc easy for you mp, n1
Feb 09 07:55:08 <DeadWeasel>	;;rate mircea_popescu 2
Feb 09 07:55:10 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 1 to 2.
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Feb 09 07:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	100 btc ? why ?
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Feb 09 07:58:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00065925 = 8.6362 BTC [-]
Feb 09 07:59:07 <error4733>	for the last 1M block you said that
Feb 09 08:00:05 <EskimoBob>	Bowjob: who are those retards?
Feb 09 08:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Feb 09 08:00:20 <Bowjob>	huh
Feb 09 08:00:26 <EskimoBob>	and whose coin are they wasting like that
Feb 09 08:00:43 <Bowjob>	they arent retards, they are whales
Feb 09 08:01:10 <Bowjob>	we need them to keep the dice lucrative
Feb 09 08:01:15 <EskimoBob>	DeadWeasel: you rated that scumbag with 2? Do you need me to call you a doctor?
Feb 09 08:01:17 <EskimoBob>	lol
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Feb 09 08:02:58 <truffles>	sigh
Feb 09 08:03:05 <EskimoBob>	911 IRC service will be a funny channel
Feb 09 08:03:10 <truffles>	mirc so hard
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Feb 09 08:03:34 <Bugpowder>	never underestimate the power of MPEX users to surprise
Feb 09 08:04:00 <Bowjob>	when can 2 BTC = 10,000 pizzas?
Feb 09 08:04:43 <DeadWeasel>	when 1 BTC= $50k
Feb 09 08:04:57 <Bowjob>	more like 100k
Feb 09 08:05:08 <DeadWeasel>	oh, you want fancy pizza
Feb 09 08:05:21 <Bowjob>	fancy? 10 dollars is pretty barebones
Feb 09 08:05:36 <Bowjob>	at least here
Feb 09 08:05:44 <Anduck>	Bowjob: once it was 10,000 btc = 1 pizza
Feb 09 08:05:53 <Anduck>	waiting for 1 btc = 10,000 pizza XD
Feb 09 08:05:57 <Bowjob>	it was 2 pizza
Feb 09 08:06:00 <Anduck>	was it???
Feb 09 08:06:03 <Bugpowder>	the S.DICE tranche sold
Feb 09 08:06:03 <Bowjob>	tyeah
Feb 09 08:06:04 <Anduck>	cool
Feb 09 08:06:05 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 09 08:06:36 <Bowjob>	so lets do a reverse laszlo
Feb 09 08:07:00 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: evoorheese promised to remove it
Feb 09 08:07:10 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 09 08:07:13 <Bugpowder>	but it sold
Feb 09 08:07:15 <Bugpowder>	first
Feb 09 08:07:26 <Diablo-D3>	a reverse laszlo?
Feb 09 08:07:35 <Bugpowder>	I guess the threat sparked some interest
Feb 09 08:07:35 <Bowjob>	2 btc = 10000 pizzas
Feb 09 08:07:49 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 09 08:07:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.30900, Best ask: 23.39898, Bid-ask spread: 0.08998, Last trade: 23.39898, 24 hour volume: 38884.81536642, 24 hour low: 22.25000, 24 hour high: 23.50000, 24 hour vwap: 22.73345
Feb 09 08:07:52 <molec>	a while ago someone here asked wether havelock had an API. Seems they now have:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.msg1512968#msg1512968
Feb 09 08:07:54 <mircea_popescu>	what threat ?
Feb 09 08:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	molec ya they announced it like yest.
Feb 09 08:08:04 <Bugpowder>	the threat of removing the tranche
Feb 09 08:08:35 <Bowjob>	Wait I fucked up the math
Feb 09 08:08:55 <Bowjob>	dead weasel, yeah 1 btc = 50k
Feb 09 08:09:03 <Jackmaninov>	Anyone remember FeedZeBirds? Anyone know what happened to it?
Feb 09 08:09:29 <Bowjob>	thats 10 bucks a pizza.. I said 2 btc not 1 btc
Feb 09 08:09:40 <Bowjob>	that would be a reverse lazlo
Feb 09 08:09:43 <EskimoBob>	why do you use word "tranche" in this context?
Feb 09 08:10:05 <DeadWeasel>	i want to know this too ^
Feb 09 08:10:26 <Bowjob>	how do you pm someone
Feb 09 08:10:27 <DeadWeasel>	In structured finance, a tranche (often misspelled as traunch or traunche) is one of a number of related securities offered as part of the same transaction.
Feb 09 08:10:30 <DeadWeasel>	thank you google
Feb 09 08:10:45 <DeadWeasel>	The word tranche is French for slice, section, series, or portion, and is cognate to English trench ('ditch'). In the financial sense of the word, each bond is a different slice of the deal's risk. Transaction documentation (see indenture) usually defines the tranches as different "classes" of notes, each identified by letter (e.g. the Class A, Class B, Class C securities) with different bond credit ratings (ratings).
Feb 09 08:10:45 <EskimoBob>	it's a same issue, same shares different price
Feb 09 08:10:59 <Bugpowder>	yea
Feb 09 08:11:08 <Bugpowder>	maybe tranche is imprecise
Feb 09 08:11:13 <EskimoBob>	"A piece, portion or slice of a deal or structured financing. This portion is one of several related securities that are offered at the same time but have different risks, rewards and/or maturities. "Tranche" is the French word for "slice". "
Feb 09 08:11:34 <EskimoBob>	someone started this crap in forums :)
Feb 09 08:11:37 <Bugpowder>	CDOs have tranches
Feb 09 08:11:50 <EskimoBob>	SDICE etc do not
Feb 09 08:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00066036 = 2.9386 BTC [+]
Feb 09 08:12:01 <Bugpowder>	these are more like different pricepoints
Feb 09 08:12:03 <Bugpowder>	whatevs
Feb 09 08:12:15 <Bugpowder>	I just wish my google doc would updat
Feb 09 08:12:27 <Bugpowder>	want to see if I broke a milestone with this pricemove
Feb 09 08:14:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15552 @ 0.00066036 = 10.2699 BTC [+]
Feb 09 08:14:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7498 @ 0.0006619 = 4.9629 BTC [+]
Feb 09 08:16:39 <Bowjob>	damn bug. rolling on btc
Feb 09 08:16:58 <Bowjob>	We started with the same capital, yet you seem to have the midas touch!
Feb 09 08:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha this sa stuff is goinggreat
Feb 09 08:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how it ends.
Feb 09 08:21:27 <Bowjob>	which?
Feb 09 08:22:05 <Bowjob>	in the end, we will all get to swim in a tub full of cassicus coins
Feb 09 08:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-trolling-something-awful-competition/
Feb 09 08:24:45 <Diablo-D3>	Only 445 signatures left until Obama has to fire a murderer https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/fire-assistant-us-attorney-steve-heymann/RJKSY2nb
Feb 09 08:24:57 <truffles>	why is not called recruitment instead of competition
Feb 09 08:25:00 <Namworld>	You got an auto-updating spreadsheet, bugpowder?
Feb 09 08:25:03 <DeadWeasel>	thanks for keeping the torch burning Diablo-D3
Feb 09 08:25:24 <DeadWeasel>	I'll go upvote the Steve Heyman threads on reddit, but I'm sure the petition will make it.
Feb 09 08:25:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4907 @ 0.0006619 = 3.2479 BTC [+]
Feb 09 08:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4041 @ 0.00066314 = 2.6797 BTC [+]
Feb 09 08:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1252 @ 0.00067173 = 0.841 BTC [+]
Feb 09 08:25:46 <Bowjob>	mp, same offer as MPOE-PR? :3
Feb 09 08:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob hm ?
Feb 09 08:26:06 <Bowjob>	on your link
Feb 09 08:26:16 <Bowjob>	you offered $200 to that guy to stick a sharpie up his ass
Feb 09 08:26:17 <truffles>	bowjob makes me think of blowjob...
Feb 09 08:26:59 <truffles>	its like i see the invisible l there
Feb 09 08:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob heh, no, ty. i think i have enough of those by now
Feb 09 08:28:32 <truffles>	the thing about forums gotta suckup to the moderators
Feb 09 08:28:42 <truffles>	small penis syndrome
Feb 09 08:29:16 <DeadWeasel>	sharpies are small.  Shoulda said a sharpie MAGNUM.
Feb 09 08:29:35 <Bowjob>	damn. that guy should take the offer
Feb 09 08:29:39 <DeadWeasel>	i've got four regular sharpies store in my rectum for emergency porpises
Feb 09 08:29:46 <DeadWeasel>	yes, dolhpins have emergencies too
Feb 09 08:30:03 <DeadWeasel>	permanent market emergencies
Feb 09 08:30:05 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: has any of the votes on that site ever resulted an action?
Feb 09 08:30:19 <truffles>	stopped soppa?
Feb 09 08:30:21 <DeadWeasel>	yes, they have.  some are only responses that say NO.
Feb 09 08:30:28 <DeadWeasel>	some are action.
Feb 09 08:30:35 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: obama has taken a few seriously, yes
Feb 09 08:30:46 <DeadWeasel>	now that the threshold is 100K sigs instead of 25K they should listen moar
Feb 09 08:30:56 <EskimoBob>	truffles: more like converted it to something hidden
Feb 09 08:31:18 <truffles>	hehe
Feb 09 08:31:26 <Namworld>	You need something new to rant about, Bob? How do you feel about ASICMINER?
Feb 09 08:31:28 <DeadWeasel>	eskimobob: have sopa provisions been passed in other bills?
Feb 09 08:31:47 <DeadWeasel>	oh ASIC, the circlejerk of bitcoin.
Feb 09 08:32:01 <truffles>	tis
Feb 09 08:32:37 <truffles>	'
Feb 09 08:35:52 <error4733>	BFL : Chips have shipped from the fab and are on their way to the US.I will update more. But the chips are confirmed to have been sent.
Feb 09 08:36:25 <error4733>	someone in the line ?
Feb 09 08:37:31 <Bowjob>	wtf is something awful
Feb 09 08:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2732 @ 0.00066336 = 1.8123 BTC [-]
Feb 09 08:39:04 <EskimoBob>	DeadWeasel: i stopped following this SOPA drama at some pint but if I recall, it got split to small junks and those got inserted to different bills etc
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Feb 09 08:46:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15310 @ 0.00067173 = 10.2842 BTC [+]
Feb 09 08:46:25 <DeadWeasel>	EskimoBob: lovely.  i got wind of a couple, but I don't recall details.  hopefull the blowback from Aaron will be enough to motivate more people to demand free information and the beginning of the end for prosecutorial abuse.  but then again, i'm an idealist
Feb 09 08:46:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00067465 = 11.1655 BTC [+]
Feb 09 08:46:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4040 @ 0.00067555 = 2.7292 BTC [+]
Feb 09 08:51:13 <Namworld>	Well I'm out, goodnight
Feb 09 08:51:17 <Namworld>	9 am...
Feb 09 08:51:20 <Diablo-D3>	night
Feb 09 08:51:23 <Diablo-D3>	lol it is 9am
Feb 09 08:51:38 <Namworld>	yeah... I stayed up too long it seems
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Feb 09 08:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4542 @ 0.00067555 = 3.0683 BTC [+]
Feb 09 08:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	its like 4pm i call shenanigans
Feb 09 08:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	this is timescam
Feb 09 09:00:28 <Bowjob>	didnt they try to get skyrim banned thru whitehouse petition?
Feb 09 09:01:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4892 @ 0.00065926 = 3.2251 BTC [-]
Feb 09 09:01:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00065925 = 5.4718 BTC [-]
Feb 09 09:01:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.00065814 = 23.364 BTC [-]
Feb 09 09:01:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 899 @ 0.00065685 = 0.5905 BTC [-]
Feb 09 09:02:01 <DeadWeasel>	what would be their reasoning for banning skyrim?
Feb 09 09:03:05 <Bowjob>	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2396888,00.asp
Feb 09 09:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	what's skyrim evne ?
Feb 09 09:04:33 <Bowjob>	it's a videogame
Feb 09 09:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	a the game. wtf lol
Feb 09 09:05:07 <Bowjob>	it was a troll attempt, however it made its way to the us government petition
Feb 09 09:05:07 <DeadWeasel>	RPG, graphics heavy, pretty addictive game until it's not (around 2 months)
Feb 09 09:05:20 <Bowjob>	i saw the petition myself
Feb 09 09:06:04 <Bowjob>	wow, from 2011.. its been over a year
Feb 09 09:06:17 <truffles>	sounds like my kinda game
Feb 09 09:06:36 <DeadWeasel>	you can get cracked versions torrented.
Feb 09 09:06:55 <truffles>	already looking into it
Feb 09 09:07:50 <DeadWeasel>	you can mod the shit out of it:  http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/
Feb 09 09:08:02 <DeadWeasel>	i made all the characters naked and allthe crops marijuana plants.
Feb 09 09:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol screencap ?
Feb 09 09:09:45 <Bowjob>	trolling eh
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Feb 09 09:09:58 <DeadWeasel>	http://static.skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/images/27415-3-1353902711.jpg
Feb 09 09:10:03 <DeadWeasel>	don't have my own
Feb 09 09:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	dude that looks just like a scene from gothic
Feb 09 09:10:41 <truffles>	whats that random eye in the center, invisible orc?
Feb 09 09:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2009/eu-ma-joc/ in the painting up there.
Feb 09 09:11:09 <DeadWeasel>	used to view or activate or steal or something
Feb 09 09:11:38 <truffles>	i dunno how im gonna manage my time now
Feb 09 09:11:55 <DeadWeasel>	you're pretty well fucked for while
Feb 09 09:11:58 <DeadWeasel>	good luck
Feb 09 09:12:06 <truffles>	lol
Feb 09 09:12:09 <DeadWeasel>	i had to delete it after 2 months
Feb 09 09:12:28 <truffles>	well i usually stick to the one game i like, (call of duty)
Feb 09 09:13:08 <Bowjob>	have you tried far cry 3
Feb 09 09:13:16 <Bowjob>	its like skyrim with guns
Feb 09 09:13:22 <truffles>	nah, i was busy on cod1
Feb 09 09:13:56 <truffles>	cod2 came out in dec..
Feb 09 09:14:13 <Bowjob>	you mean blops 2
Feb 09 09:14:28 <truffles>	yea
Feb 09 09:14:33 <Anduck>	black co.... ops
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Feb 09 09:15:23 <DeadWeasel>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL331aZ8yjE
Feb 09 09:16:28 <truffles>	im gonna wait til next month ..
Feb 09 09:16:35 <grubles>	i miss rainbow six rogue spear
Feb 09 09:16:36 <truffles>	try out oblivion 1st
Feb 09 09:16:45 <DeadWeasel>	smart
Feb 09 09:17:11 <truffles>	i dont wanna get sucked in too soon b4 sorting some stuff out u know
Feb 09 09:17:36 <truffles>	i might get into this sdice thing
Feb 09 09:17:40 <grubles>	try morrowind first!
Feb 09 09:17:44 <truffles>	lots can happen in 1 month
Feb 09 09:17:44 <DeadWeasel>	i hear ya, i don't play anything but urban terror when I find a server that's not all bots
Feb 09 09:17:49 <grubles>	and then fail miserably
Feb 09 09:17:53 <truffles>	lol
Feb 09 09:19:07 <truffles>	thats exactly what would happen too
Feb 09 09:19:35 <grubles>	yuyp
Feb 09 09:19:37 <grubles>	yup
Feb 09 09:19:41 <grubles>	you could always mod it though i guess
Feb 09 09:19:48 <grubles>	but aint nobody got time for that
Feb 09 09:20:43 <truffles>	oh u were talking about morrowind..
Feb 09 09:21:06 <Bowjob>	Mhm, mpex.co is updated with moonspeak!
Feb 09 09:21:23 <grubles>	yes
Feb 09 09:21:32 <Bowjob>	I can read it. Ching chong chang, chang ching chong.
Feb 09 09:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.006399 = 3.1995 BTC [-]
Feb 09 09:23:08 <truffles>	morrowind too low tech for me phew
Feb 09 09:23:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6343 @ 0.0064 = 40.5952 BTC [+]
Feb 09 09:25:05 <Bowjob>	亲爱的大王，这是什么？
Feb 09 09:28:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.63999999 = 32 BTC [+]
Feb 09 09:28:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 160 @ 0.64 = 102.4 BTC [+]
Feb 09 09:28:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4618 @ 0.00067555 = 3.1197 BTC [+]
Feb 09 09:28:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.0006772 = 3.6569 BTC [+]
Feb 09 09:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4933 @ 0.00067795 = 3.3443 BTC [+]
Feb 09 09:28:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7349 @ 0.00068254 = 5.016 BTC [+]
Feb 09 09:30:58 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob cool huh
Feb 09 09:37:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.668 = 2.004 BTC [+]
Feb 09 09:39:20 <Bugpowder>	4 s.mpoe hit .0007 aging?
Feb 09 09:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	earlier yeah
Feb 09 09:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7256 @ 0.00067202 = 4.8762 BTC [-]
Feb 09 09:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 623 @ 0.0064 = 3.9872 BTC [+]
Feb 09 09:46:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8275 @ 0.00067612 = 5.5949 BTC [+]
Feb 09 09:51:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3344 @ 0.00067202 = 2.2472 BTC [-]
Feb 09 09:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4019 @ 0.00065685 = 2.6399 BTC [-]
Feb 09 09:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4737 @ 0.00065606 = 3.1078 BTC [-]
Feb 09 09:57:11 <thestringpuller>	how come there are no mpoe passthrus?
Feb 09 10:00:07 <ThickAsThieves>	there are
Feb 09 10:00:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5263 @ 0.00065606 = 3.4528 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11437 @ 0.00065605 = 7.5032 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:00:25 <ThickAsThieves>	https://btct.co/security/S.MPOE-PT
Feb 09 10:00:54 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-E
Feb 09 10:01:08 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-O
Feb 09 10:01:30 <ThickAsThieves>	The bitfunder ones are for even and odd months separately
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Feb 09 10:03:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7608 @ 0.00065798 = 5.0059 BTC [+]
Feb 09 10:04:07 <FabianB_>	ThickAsThieves: CoinBr.MPBPT is not a passthrough for s.mpoe
Feb 09 10:04:18 <FabianB_>	it's for mpoe bond
Feb 09 10:04:29 <Chaang-Noi>	zup
Feb 09 10:05:12 <ThickAsThieves>	mornin
Feb 09 10:05:34 <ThickAsThieves>	Ah, thanks Fab, I haven't read that one
Feb 09 10:06:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14792 @ 0.00065798 = 9.7328 BTC [+]
Feb 09 10:06:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 658 @ 0.00067612 = 0.4449 BTC [+]
Feb 09 10:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	actually the mpoe pt on glbse was like... the only thing there that made investors rich.
Feb 09 10:10:08 <mircea_popescu>	kinda odd there's not more of them
Feb 09 10:10:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2363 @ 0.00065605 = 1.5502 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:10:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3537 @ 0.00065586 = 2.3198 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:11:18 <Chaang-Noi>	lol mp
Feb 09 10:11:46 <Chaang-Noi>	mp, are you okay?
Feb 09 10:11:55 <pizzaman1337>	did the S.DICE sell order at .0062 get removed or was it eaten through? Haven't been paying attention
Feb 09 10:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	me ? sure.
Feb 09 10:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 it tickered away earlier.
Feb 09 10:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	about 9k went in sdice/smpoe
Feb 09 10:12:19 <pizzaman1337>	ok
Feb 09 10:12:23 <Chaang-Noi>	well mp, you seem to be pretty grumpy here
Feb 09 10:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	i do ?
Feb 09 10:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6463 @ 0.00065586 = 4.2388 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:12:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3537 @ 0.00065585 = 2.3197 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:12:57 <Chaang-Noi>	well, you are known for being grumpy but even i am shocked
Feb 09 10:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	even you ?
Feb 09 10:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok.
Feb 09 10:13:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought you might be conntent by now
Feb 09 10:13:49 <Chaang-Noi>	personal life is fail i guess?
Feb 09 10:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	im quite content. what are you on about dood ?
Feb 09 10:14:22 <Chaang-Noi>	im just a bit shocked, i have no issue.
Feb 09 10:14:49 <Chaang-Noi>	you really are a hard person to like.
Feb 09 10:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	why'd you want to like me ?
Feb 09 10:15:19 <Chaang-Noi>	because of what you have done.
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Feb 09 10:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which, need more ppl for
Feb 09 10:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;view 13393
Feb 09 10:15:48 <gribble>	#13393 Sat Feb  9 02:16:26 2013 mircea_popescu BUY 1.0 SA gift cert @ 0.5 BTC ((You will have to make a 9.95 credit card payment on https://secure.somethingawful.com/products/gift-certificate.php?product_type=register ))
Feb 09 10:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	i am totally unsurprised at how many people actually wnat to do this.
Feb 09 10:16:22 <Chaang-Noi>	you are tolling SA?
Feb 09 10:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	well, not personally.
Feb 09 10:16:36 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Feb 09 10:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-trolling-something-awful-competition/
Feb 09 10:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	it's like a contest.
Feb 09 10:17:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2263 @ 0.00065585 = 1.4842 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:17:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065462 = 2.8286 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00065461 = 3.6985 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:17:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19166 @ 0.00065283 = 12.5121 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:17:22 <truffles>	no takers yet mp?
Feb 09 10:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	like half a dozen
Feb 09 10:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	im running out of the damned codes.
Feb 09 10:17:39 <truffles>	lol
Feb 09 10:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	but it's cool, gives noobs a chance to get a little btc with their cc
Feb 09 10:17:53 <truffles>	i think i could win that contest
Feb 09 10:18:02 <truffles>	(would prob have done so for free)
Feb 09 10:18:09 <mircea_popescu>	so go ahead.
Feb 09 10:18:21 <Chaang-Noi>	im just a goat
Feb 09 10:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	actually now that i think about it, last i heard of you you were chasing the dragon
Feb 09 10:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	how's that worked out ? caught it ?
Feb 09 10:19:44 <Chaang-Noi>	opium?
Feb 09 10:20:39 <Chaang-Noi>	sadly no, but i wish....
Feb 09 10:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 02 17:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi are you like this when you're drunk or when you're sober ?
Feb 09 10:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 02 17:45:51 <Chaang-Noi>	high...
Feb 09 10:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 02 17:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	stick with it.
Feb 09 10:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 02 17:46:10 <Chaang-Noi>	on opium
Feb 09 10:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	Oct 02 17:46:18 <Chaang-Noi>	i just dont cae any more
Feb 09 10:21:37 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah that was like months ago
Feb 09 10:21:48 <Chaang-Noi>	oh wait, you dated it so you know already
Feb 09 10:22:00 <Chaang-Noi>	so why to stupid question?
Feb 09 10:22:09 <mircea_popescu>	was curious how it worked out.
Feb 09 10:22:17 <truffles>	its called the dragon now?
Feb 09 10:22:17 <Chaang-Noi>	opium is pretty nice
Feb 09 10:22:23 <Chaang-Noi>	now?
Feb 09 10:22:26 <mircea_popescu>	truffles it always was called chasing teh dragon
Feb 09 10:22:33 <Chaang-Noi>	truffles you must be new to life
Feb 09 10:22:53 <truffles>	drugs r bad  mmk
Feb 09 10:22:57 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 09 10:23:05 <truffles>	alcohol is good though
Feb 09 10:23:10 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 09 10:23:23 <mircea_popescu>	it's certainly an older idiomatic than welfarism.
Feb 09 10:23:31 <Chaang-Noi>	opium is like codean
Feb 09 10:23:42 <Chaang-Noi>	mp is right
Feb 09 10:23:52 <Chaang-Noi>	chrildren will not understand...
Feb 09 10:24:10 <truffles>	opium looks like a nasty thing to get hooked on
Feb 09 10:24:12 <Chaang-Noi>	but mp is silly for thinking i was on opium for 5 months, lulz
Feb 09 10:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi well it's why i asked
Feb 09 10:24:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i get the joy of using opium like 2 times a year
Feb 09 10:25:11 <truffles>	gonna try weed something, on the to do list
Feb 09 10:25:27 <Chaang-Noi>	well mp, i dont know how it is where you live, but opium is not just floated around here
Feb 09 10:25:32 <Bugpowder>	23.56
Feb 09 10:25:41 <Chaang-Noi>	nic bug :)
Feb 09 10:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 09 10:25:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.50001, Best ask: 23.56176, Bid-ask spread: 0.06175, Last trade: 23.50001, 24 hour volume: 40016.41463094, 24 hour low: 22.25000, 24 hour high: 23.56277, 24 hour vwap: 22.82996
Feb 09 10:25:46 <Chaang-Noi>	nice+
Feb 09 10:25:50 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool.
Feb 09 10:25:57 <Chaang-Noi>	yup
Feb 09 10:26:08 <truffles>	hope it reaches 100
Feb 09 10:26:11 <Chaang-Noi>	mp how mant btc you hold?
Feb 09 10:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	a lot.
Feb 09 10:26:25 <Chaang-Noi>	many+
Feb 09 10:26:35 <Bugpowder>	I think 50k+
Feb 09 10:26:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i assumed thwt
Feb 09 10:26:38 <Chaang-Noi>	that
Feb 09 10:26:45 <jurov>	just do quick calc on how many s.mpoe he sold
Feb 09 10:26:58 <Chaang-Noi>	i just do not understand my mp is so grumppy
Feb 09 10:27:03 <jurov>	(i decided not to do it myself)
Feb 09 10:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol jurov
Feb 09 10:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	sad thing is, btc i hold > btc i own
Feb 09 10:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	so go figure
Feb 09 10:27:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i have been there
Feb 09 10:27:35 <truffles>	mp so ure rich
Feb 09 10:27:37 <Bugpowder>	how did it end?
Feb 09 10:27:44 <Chaang-Noi>	mp is rich
Feb 09 10:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder pirate.
Feb 09 10:28:01 <truffles>	can you buy a nice car with the btc
Feb 09 10:28:09 <Chaang-Noi>	mp is rish, but frummpy:)
Feb 09 10:28:20 <Chaang-Noi>	im sure mp could buy a kick ass car
Feb 09 10:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated FabianB_
Feb 09 10:28:40 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user FabianB_
Feb 09 10:28:41 <kakobreklaa>	yeah i bought a car with btc
Feb 09 10:28:45 <kakobreklaa>	wasnt the best call i made.
Feb 09 10:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate FabianB_ 1 bought me SA gift cert.
Feb 09 10:28:50 <gribble>	Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
Feb 09 10:28:58 <truffles>	orly what kind
Feb 09 10:28:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated FabianB
Feb 09 10:29:00 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user FabianB
Feb 09 10:29:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate FabianB 1 bought me SA gift cert.
Feb 09 10:29:05 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user FabianB has been recorded.
Feb 09 10:29:16 <Chaang-Noi>	mp, i grew up withthe founder of SA
Feb 09 10:29:18 <kakobreklaa>	vw golf
Feb 09 10:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi who's that ?
Feb 09 10:29:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i lived in lee's summit for years
Feb 09 10:29:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00065902 = 10.6102 BTC [+]
Feb 09 10:30:10 <Chaang-Noi>	he was a bit older than me, and i hung out with moot but we still talked
Feb 09 10:30:41 <mircea_popescu>	moot is the reddit guy ?
Feb 09 10:30:44 <Bugpowder>	teslaaa
Feb 09 10:30:49 <Bugpowder>	moot is 4chan
Feb 09 10:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	or no, wait. the reddit guy was yeah.
Feb 09 10:31:22 <Diablo-D3>	moot is 4chan
Feb 09 10:31:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i have never done reddit, but im tight with 4chan and SA founders
Feb 09 10:31:25 <Diablo-D3>	moot IS 4chan
Feb 09 10:31:34 <Chaang-Noi>	yes d3
Feb 09 10:31:35 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, theres an ethernet jack in his head
Feb 09 10:31:56 <truffles>	mp have u been hacked before?
Feb 09 10:31:58 <Chaang-Noi>	i talekd moot into taking btc
Feb 09 10:32:02 <Chaang-Noi>	well, i helped
Feb 09 10:32:26 <truffles>	thats an argument against bitcoins, hackers be crazy
Feb 09 10:32:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065822 = 2.8442 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:32:39 <Diablo-D3>	no, I talked moot into taking btc
Feb 09 10:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18729 @ 0.0006584 = 12.3312 BTC [+]
Feb 09 10:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	ok, so you to go talk to the sa guy so he takes btc
Feb 09 10:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	you two*
Feb 09 10:33:04 <Chaang-Noi>	okay d3
Feb 09 10:33:20 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont care, i just told him it was cool
Feb 09 10:33:23 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: meh, I never cared for sa, really
Feb 09 10:33:26 <Chaang-Noi>	and how to do it
Feb 09 10:33:31 <Chaang-Noi>	and he did it
Feb 09 10:33:32 <truffles>	what is SA!
Feb 09 10:33:33 <jurov>	and advertise sdice on sa,lol
Feb 09 10:33:40 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 might have been a leader, i dont know
Feb 09 10:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 ok, so get vice.com forums to take btc
Feb 09 10:33:56 <jurov>	truffles: somethingawful
Feb 09 10:33:57 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: thats even worse dude
Feb 09 10:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov if they had any moneys...
Feb 09 10:34:11 <truffles>	vice.tv is free on utube
Feb 09 10:34:11 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, Im burned out on community efforts lately
Feb 09 10:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 seems to me about the same thing, obscure "funny" paper with internet presence.
Feb 09 10:34:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i feel old, was well over 10 years ago when SA started making people pay for accounts, im shocked they are still around
Feb 09 10:34:37 <jurov>	mircea_popescu if not money, at least gossip ... but guest we get that for free
Feb 09 10:34:42 <mircea_popescu>	paying for accounts is the way to go.
Feb 09 10:34:43 <jurov>	*guess
Feb 09 10:34:48 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: dude, I remember when SA didnt exist
Feb 09 10:34:52 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: that was awesome
Feb 09 10:34:57 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it's certainly cheaper at .5 btc a pop than w/e they'd want for advertising
Feb 09 10:34:57 <FabianB_>	;;rate mircea_popescu 2 very trusted based on otc trades and active mpex user (mircea owns mpex)
Feb 09 10:35:00 <mircea_popescu>	more importantly, i wouldn
Feb 09 10:35:01 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
Feb 09 10:35:04 <truffles>	what is SA!
Feb 09 10:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	t want to be involved in their googleads cesspool
Feb 09 10:35:09 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 i also remeber when SA was not around
Feb 09 10:35:11 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: something awful
Feb 09 10:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	have you seen the sort of shit they advertise ?
Feb 09 10:35:26 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: there are two major communities on the internet
Feb 09 10:35:31 <Diablo-D3>	something awful and reddit
Feb 09 10:35:35 <Chaang-Noi>	iv not been to Sa for over 10 years other than the off link related to btc
Feb 09 10:35:36 <Diablo-D3>	and theres a LOT of overlap between the two
Feb 09 10:35:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54371 @ 0.0006584 = 35.7979 BTC [+]
Feb 09 10:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i dunno about that dood. they were trying to impress me with their size, it boiled down to 100k historical accts and 3k active.
Feb 09 10:35:55 <truffles>	oh thats the actual name lol
Feb 09 10:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	i was like... ooookay ? this is not enough to run 2011 bitcoin.
Feb 09 10:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's like a bad wow knockoff server.
Feb 09 10:36:12 <Diablo-D3>	if a game can have teams/clans that can have thousands of people
Feb 09 10:36:20 <Diablo-D3>	theres a SA team/clan and a reddit one
Feb 09 10:36:25 <Diablo-D3>	usually goons and test
Feb 09 10:36:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: SA sorta died out
Feb 09 10:36:46 <Chaang-Noi>	funny the founder of SA was not even that active 13 years ago... but i guess he still takes checks
Feb 09 10:37:00 <Diablo-D3>	it used to be a lot more active
Feb 09 10:37:06 <Diablo-D3>	then reddit sorta raped everybody
Feb 09 10:37:10 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah the only thing i heard of SA in the last 10 years is they troll bitcoin
Feb 09 10:37:15 <truffles>	lol raped
Feb 09 10:37:20 <Diablo-D3>	I have no fucking clue how reddit became so fucking popular
Feb 09 10:37:22 <Diablo-D3>	its not any good
Feb 09 10:37:28 <Diablo-D3>	its like if 4chan was a forum.
Feb 09 10:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 prolly spazz friendly.
Feb 09 10:37:39 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: thats the thing
Feb 09 10:37:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i never reddit, but the guy anherroed for a good cause, now even anon has his back
Feb 09 10:37:53 <Diablo-D3>	early shit was all mature intelligent conversations
Feb 09 10:38:04 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: he didnt an hero
Feb 09 10:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	who ?
Feb 09 10:38:14 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 govt killed him?
Feb 09 10:38:16 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: aaron swartz
Feb 09 10:38:20 <Chaang-Noi>	mp is clueless?
Feb 09 10:38:20 <truffles>	ive been to the not so nice place in 4chan once
Feb 09 10:38:21 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: in around about way, yes
Feb 09 10:38:23 <mircea_popescu>	a. well... it'd qualify neh ?
Feb 09 10:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	he did off himself.
Feb 09 10:38:33 <Chaang-Noi>	mp has not seen the vide of anaon that made the us govt call for 5000 cyber cops?
Feb 09 10:38:36 <Diablo-D3>	they hounded him until he committed suicide
Feb 09 10:38:58 <Diablo-D3>	they threatened him with the rest of his life in supermax and all sorts of other bullshit stuff
Feb 09 10:39:07 <truffles>	he got killed by suicide
Feb 09 10:39:07 <Diablo-D3>	why do you think everyone wants those two fucks from the DoJ fired?
Feb 09 10:39:10 <mjr_>	nice weekend dip huh?
Feb 09 10:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	it dipped ?
Feb 09 10:40:04 <Bugpowder>	http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1282
Feb 09 10:40:24 <truffles>	mp whats my hourly troll gonna be
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Feb 09 10:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	truffles your huh ?
Feb 09 10:40:43 <truffles>	i think im ready
Feb 09 10:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 615 @ 0.05558649 = 34.1857 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:41:24 <mjr_>	was being sarcastic
Feb 09 10:41:29 <mjr_>	new 52 week high
Feb 09 10:41:39 <mjr_>	$24 by monday i think
Feb 09 10:41:54 <abracadabra>	by monday you mean today?
Feb 09 10:42:42 <Bugpowder>	shhheit
Feb 09 10:42:46 <Bugpowder>	I keep buying put
Feb 09 10:42:48 <Bugpowder>	puts
Feb 09 10:43:16 <truffles>	mp out with the fine print
Feb 09 10:43:28 <Bugpowder>	oops
Feb 09 10:43:31 <Bugpowder>	mp got those puts
Feb 09 10:43:39 <Bugpowder>	my bids were down
Feb 09 10:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	looks like they were sold tho neh ?
Feb 09 10:45:53 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 09 10:45:55 <Bugpowder>	good price
Feb 09 10:45:58 <Chaang-Noi>	23.61
Feb 09 10:45:59 <Bugpowder>	for u
Feb 09 10:46:03 <gesell>	yo, watch out, i might crash the mtgox websockets api in a minute
Feb 09 10:46:16 <gesell>	testing a bug
Feb 09 10:46:31 <truffles>	thats what its called now
Feb 09 10:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 629 @ 0.0006584 = 0.4141 BTC [+]
Feb 09 10:47:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065529 = 2.8315 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:48:47 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 09 10:48:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.58001, Best ask: 23.59990, Bid-ask spread: 0.01989, Last trade: 23.58001, 24 hour volume: 39946.91403850, 24 hour low: 22.25000, 24 hour high: 23.61000, 24 hour vwap: 22.85655
Feb 09 10:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00065513 = 8.9753 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3299 @ 0.00065513 = 2.1613 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:51:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8151 @ 0.00065491 = 5.3382 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:51:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7499 @ 0.00065517 = 4.9131 BTC [+]
Feb 09 10:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8451 @ 0.00065517 = 5.5368 BTC [+]
Feb 09 10:54:08 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont see how the volume can hold over the weekend
Feb 09 10:54:18 <ThickAsThieves>	we'll see tho
Feb 09 10:54:19 <mircea_popescu>	40k ? why not ?
Feb 09 10:54:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065285 = 0.6529 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00065284 = 32.642 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13259 @ 0.00065283 = 8.6559 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:54:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00065062 = 11.028 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:54:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15051 @ 0.00064951 = 9.7758 BTC [-]
Feb 09 10:55:00 <Bugpowder>	maybe some people put money in
Feb 09 10:55:09 <Bugpowder>	and wait for the dump on the weekend
Feb 09 10:55:14 <Bugpowder>	to buy it cheaper
Feb 09 10:55:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought the weekend dip was over?
Feb 09 10:55:45 <ThickAsThieves>	it was happening lately
Feb 09 10:55:56 <ThickAsThieves>	but obv not today
Feb 09 10:56:37 <gesell>	lol
Feb 09 10:56:42 <gesell>	mwahaha
Feb 09 10:56:43 <gesell>	funny
Feb 09 10:56:55 <gesell>	gox websockets down
Feb 09 10:56:56 <gesell>	win
Feb 09 10:59:02 <mircea_popescu>	o srsly ?
Feb 09 10:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	wd. gimme exclusive of the story ? :D
Feb 09 10:59:39 <mircea_popescu>	gesell ^
Feb 09 11:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064952 = 0.6495 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4949 @ 0.00064951 = 3.2144 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.0006494 = 11.0723 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:00:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00064897 = 14.8614 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00064864 = 5.254 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:00:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10536 @ 0.00064793 = 6.8266 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 11:02:33 <gesell>	yeah still testing it but seemed to for for a minute.
Feb 09 11:03:05 <gesell>	would be nothing more than a denial of service
Feb 09 11:03:20 <mircea_popescu>	i c
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Feb 09 11:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066003 = 2.852 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4029 @ 0.00066037 = 2.6606 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:05:19 <truffles>	" Most goons have no idea what Buttcoins are." lol
Feb 09 11:06:47 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Feb 09 11:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00066037 = 11.0942 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	i confess this idea turned out really entertaining
Feb 09 11:12:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7471 @ 0.00066037 = 4.9336 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00067606 = 2.0282 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2579 @ 0.00067612 = 1.7437 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 11:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	"Mircea is undoubtedly overcharging for SA accounts and making money off the suckers. Man's not stupid you know. So more power to him."
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Feb 09 11:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	where the heck i got that reputation from, what am i, the modern day scot ?
Feb 09 11:14:23 <truffles>	are your fees market rate?
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Feb 09 11:15:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064919 = 2.8051 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3119 @ 0.00064913 = 2.0246 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:15:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34300 @ 0.00064912 = 22.2648 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	what fees, what market ?
Feb 09 11:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8164 @ 0.00064793 = 5.2897 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:15:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21053 @ 0.0006461 = 13.6023 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:15:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00064398 = 3.7351 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 11:15:49 <truffles>	u know that 30btc is that standard
Feb 09 11:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	o. mpex is afaik the only bitcoin-anything with a membership fee
Feb 09 11:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	(tho the foundatiojn copied it later on)
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Feb 09 11:17:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00064383 = 2.3822 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:18:39 <truffles>	interesting ive not heard of SA or bitcoins before
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Feb 09 11:18:54 <truffles>	before last yr
Feb 09 11:19:01 <truffles>	both groups seem very similar to me
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Feb 09 11:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	new stuff all around!
Feb 09 11:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	ironically, they are rather similar.
Feb 09 11:19:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0061 = 0.0305 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:19:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0061 = 0.0305 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:20:47 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin foundation has a membership fee :P
Feb 09 11:21:23 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Feb 09 11:21:28 <aiball>	I've been out of this room.  any news on s.dice dumps?
Feb 09 11:21:42 <pigeons>	oh you want me to dump some? hold on
Feb 09 11:21:50 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 09 11:21:57 <truffles>	so mp basically is market leader
Feb 09 11:22:14 <pigeons>	aiball: Erik said no more sales for a while
Feb 09 11:22:24 <aiball>	thanks
Feb 09 11:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	aiball and then the block sold out
Feb 09 11:24:16 <knotwork>	You sell SA accounts?!?
Feb 09 11:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Feb 09 11:24:36 <knotwork>	"Mircea is undoubtedly overcharging for SA accounts"...
Feb 09 11:24:56 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-trolling-something-awful-competition/
Feb 09 11:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	see there.
Feb 09 11:26:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.0006433 = 12.2227 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9598 @ 0.00064241 = 6.1659 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:28:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1398 @ 0.00064137 = 0.8966 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:29:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00064271 = 1.9924 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5169 @ 0.00064137 = 3.3152 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:30:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4831 @ 0.00064002 = 3.0919 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 11:32:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is more like the Dr. Dre of the bitcoin world
Feb 09 11:33:20 <thestringpuller>	fun fact: after dr. dre got rich, nigga's in compton kept jumping him cause they were haters
Feb 09 11:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00064271 = 5.0131 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:34:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00064383 = 10.8807 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:35:04 <Chaang-Noi>	dr dre is rather grummpy i hear
Feb 09 11:35:16 <knotwork>	Hmm so paying people 10 bitcoins and their SA account is overcharging? Sounds about right, I am not very tempted to go join that place for such a paltry sum
Feb 09 11:35:49 <mircea_popescu>	some people are really into this whole trolling thing.
Feb 09 11:36:35 <knotwork>	oh trolling can be fun, sure, but from all I have heard of SA trolling them would just be pointless stooping to ridiculously low level
Feb 09 11:36:41 <maximian>	 as they say, "trolling is a art"
Feb 09 11:36:52 <knotwork>	not there, from what I have heard
Feb 09 11:37:06 <knotwork>	pearls before swine for a troll artist
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Feb 09 11:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00064002 = 7.5842 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:45:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33319 @ 0.00064002 = 21.3248 BTC [-]
Feb 09 11:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2237 @ 0.00064 = 1.4317 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 11:46:31 <mircea_popescu>	anyone know of a source for connected node count ?
Feb 09 11:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00064383 = 8.6273 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00064856 = 5.6425 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:48:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00065686 = 0.2299 BTC [+]
Feb 09 11:51:36 <truffles>	no
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Feb 09 12:01:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is the mpex deposit address offline?
Feb 09 12:01:37 <thestringpuller>	or is it connected to nodes?
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Feb 09 12:03:33 <jurov>	http://bitcoinstatus.rowit.co.uk/ sadly, is outdated
Feb 09 12:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	20k ish aha
Feb 09 12:05:39 <mircea_popescu>	for some reason i recalled 30-40k
Feb 09 12:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	i guess im even more outdated.
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Feb 09 12:13:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00064 = 9.568 BTC [-]
Feb 09 12:14:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 12:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13604274825.png
Feb 09 12:16:08 <mircea_popescu>	actually this is pretty lulzy.
Feb 09 12:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3513 @ 0.00064 = 2.2483 BTC [-]
Feb 09 12:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00063978 = 16.1864 BTC [-]
Feb 09 12:18:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1487 @ 0.00063873 = 0.9498 BTC [-]
Feb 09 12:20:03 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: oh man
Feb 09 12:20:05 <thestringpuller>	why is there a haboo hotel advert?
Feb 09 12:20:16 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: because SA sold out, nigga
Feb 09 12:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	the sa trolling is progressing i guess.
Feb 09 12:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile back at the other farm of stupidity, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142083.msg1514331#msg1514331
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Feb 09 12:22:01 <Diablo-D3>	I love how no one asks my opinion the GPL thing
Feb 09 12:22:16 <Diablo-D3>	seeing as my copyright is buried somewhere in cgminer
Feb 09 12:24:15 <ThickAsThieves>	Diablo, what is your opinion on the GPL thing?
Feb 09 12:24:46 <Diablo-D3>	I think its fucking hilarious that anyone gives three shits
Feb 09 12:25:10 <ThickAsThieves>	like what happens if their worst nightmare is true?
Feb 09 12:25:17 <ThickAsThieves>	nothing right?
Feb 09 12:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	they could get sued in internet court.
Feb 09 12:25:40 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: actually worse
Feb 09 12:25:44 <Bugpowder>	23.70
Feb 09 12:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	which may have all sorts of impredictable results, such as louisiana being returned to the french
Feb 09 12:25:52 <Diablo-D3>	con OR me could have their units halted at the boarder and confiscated
Feb 09 12:25:59 <Diablo-D3>	just takes a court order.
Feb 09 12:26:08 <ThickAsThieves>	dang
Feb 09 12:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	im still betting on louisiana being returned to the french.
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Feb 09 12:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	o look, it's the whale rider
Feb 09 12:27:30 <evoorhees>	lol
Feb 09 12:28:02 <evoorhees>	I hope that becomes my nickname
Feb 09 12:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	Erik WR Voorhees ?
Feb 09 12:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	not so bad yeah.
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Feb 09 12:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00065653 = 3.2827 BTC [+]
Feb 09 12:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00065654 = 0.1313 BTC [+]
Feb 09 12:31:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4121 @ 0.00065654 = 2.7056 BTC [+]
Feb 09 12:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16709 @ 0.00065657 = 10.9706 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 12:42:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC [+]
Feb 09 12:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00065656 = 3.2828 BTC [-]
Feb 09 12:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17391 @ 0.00065657 = 11.4184 BTC [+]
Feb 09 12:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00065686 = 13.0058 BTC [+]
Feb 09 12:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00065981 = 13.6251 BTC [+]
Feb 09 12:45:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00066261 = 3.3131 BTC [+]
Feb 09 12:45:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12859 @ 0.00066262 = 8.5206 BTC [+]
Feb 09 12:54:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065098 = 2.8129 BTC [-]
Feb 09 12:54:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00065097 = 13.2472 BTC [-]
Feb 09 12:54:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3979 @ 0.00064252 = 2.5566 BTC [-]
Feb 09 12:57:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.0007 = 0.14 BTC
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Feb 09 13:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4484 @ 0.00065354 = 2.9305 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 13:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066121 = 2.8571 BTC [+]
Feb 09 13:13:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9365 @ 0.00066122 = 6.1923 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 13:18:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0809 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 13:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006606 = 2.8545 BTC [-]
Feb 09 13:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.0006605 = 17.0409 BTC [-]
Feb 09 13:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5429 @ 0.00065354 = 3.5481 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 13:28:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6678 = 2.0034 BTC [-]
Feb 09 13:28:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.66799999 = 4.676 BTC [+]
Feb 09 13:28:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 71 @ 0.668 = 47.428 BTC [+]
Feb 09 13:29:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.668 BTC [+]
Feb 09 13:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066121 = 2.8571 BTC [+]
Feb 09 13:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 879 @ 0.00066122 = 0.5812 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 13:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8556 @ 0.00066122 = 5.6574 BTC [+]
Feb 09 13:36:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00066244 = 5.0677 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 13:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00066261 = 3.3131 BTC [+]
Feb 09 13:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12251 @ 0.00066262 = 8.1178 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 13:48:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5094 @ 0.00066244 = 3.3745 BTC [-]
Feb 09 13:54:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6206 @ 0.00065868 = 4.0878 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 14:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 394 @ 0.00066235 = 0.261 BTC [+]
Feb 09 14:05:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065355 = 2.824 BTC [-]
Feb 09 14:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2224 @ 0.00065355 = 1.4535 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 14:13:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2835 @ 0.00065355 = 1.8528 BTC [-]
Feb 09 14:13:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14453 @ 0.00065354 = 9.4456 BTC [-]
Feb 09 14:13:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2262 @ 0.00064786 = 1.4655 BTC [-]
Feb 09 14:14:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0249 = 0.1992 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 14:20:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00065086 = 11.5202 BTC [+]
Feb 09 14:20:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 436 @ 0.00064787 = 0.2825 BTC [-]
Feb 09 14:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6769 @ 0.00064786 = 4.3854 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 14:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24766 @ 0.00064786 = 16.0449 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 14:55:16 <mod6>	;;ticker
Feb 09 14:55:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.55001, Best ask: 23.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 23.55001, 24 hour volume: 36605.15164711, 24 hour low: 22.31600, 24 hour high: 23.71000, 24 hour vwap: 23.00973
Feb 09 14:55:34 <mod6>	hey hey!
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Feb 09 14:58:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00064786 = 12.86 BTC [-]
Feb 09 15:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065739 = 2.8406 BTC [+]
Feb 09 15:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13779 @ 0.00065748 = 9.0594 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 15:07:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 15:08:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 15:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064805 = 2.8002 BTC [-]
Feb 09 15:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25679 @ 0.00064786 = 16.6364 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 15:17:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.668 = 8.016 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 15:22:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0061 BTC [+]
Feb 09 15:26:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 46 @ 0.0061 = 0.2806 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 15:37:16 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 25
Feb 09 15:37:17 <gribble>	There are currently 12296.932 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 300575.660329 USD in total.
Feb 09 15:37:19 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 22
Feb 09 15:37:20 <gribble>	There are currently 14233.261 bitcoins demanded at or over 22.0 USD, worth 322475.208869 USD in total.
Feb 09 15:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 09 15:38:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.70002, Best ask: 23.73997, Bid-ask spread: 0.03995, Last trade: 23.73997, 24 hour volume: 35637.61381320, 24 hour low: 22.51000, 24 hour high: 23.73998, 24 hour vwap: 23.04446
Feb 09 15:38:55 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 30
Feb 09 15:38:57 <gribble>	There are currently 21657.638 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 561371.737071 USD in total.
Feb 09 15:42:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00065713 = 0.3286 BTC [+]
Feb 09 15:42:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065714 = 2.8395 BTC [+]
Feb 09 15:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10471 @ 0.00065748 = 6.8845 BTC [+]
Feb 09 15:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00065931 = 3.2966 BTC [+]
Feb 09 15:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00065932 = 8.9668 BTC [+]
Feb 09 15:42:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14108 @ 0.00066063 = 9.3202 BTC [+]
Feb 09 15:44:30 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dkice
Feb 09 15:44:31 <assbot>	Are you sure you have no tobacco?
Feb 09 15:44:31 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Feb 09 15:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00559977 / 0.00619659 / 0.0064 (1132469 shares, 7,017.46 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00582233 / 0.007395 (4599540 shares, 26,780.05 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00550228 / 0.0075 (8894277 shares, 48,938.87 BTC)
Feb 09 15:44:35 <Anduck>	assbot stfu
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Feb 09 16:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1701 @ 0.00066062 = 1.1237 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6042 @ 0.00066063 = 3.9915 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7657 @ 0.00066091 = 5.0606 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00065629 = 1.8376 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.00065097 = 0.358 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:02:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065096 = 2.8128 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:02:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11810 @ 0.00065093 = 7.6875 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:02:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2874 @ 0.00064786 = 1.8619 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:02:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064728 = 3.2364 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:02:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2645 @ 0.00064727 = 1.712 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 16:18:27 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Feb 09 16:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063873 / 0.000678 / 0.0007 (6049679 shares, 4,101.73 BTC), 7D: 0.00063873 / 0.00068556 / 0.0007 (19789271 shares, 13,566.78 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066597 / 0.0007 (67815686 shares, 45,163.63 BTC)
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Feb 09 16:21:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 16:26:35 <Namworld>	Anyone has BBET for sale at a reasonable price?
Feb 09 16:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1769 @ 0.00064728 = 1.145 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:30:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17331 @ 0.00064727 = 11.2178 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 16:36:08 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 09 16:36:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.82511, Best ask: 23.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02489, Last trade: 23.85000, 24 hour volume: 36908.25562531, 24 hour low: 22.52533, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.13240
Feb 09 16:36:25 <jurov>	mtgoxlive says 23.99 :P
Feb 09 16:36:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.325 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:38:22 <Bugpowdr>	short form
Feb 09 16:38:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0061 = 0.305 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:41:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5585 @ 0.00064727 = 3.615 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:45:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 450 @ 0.0061 = 2.745 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:46:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29199 @ 0.00064765 = 18.9107 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:46:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1842 @ 0.00064727 = 1.1923 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:46:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37700 @ 0.00064653 = 24.3742 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 859 @ 0.00064537 = 0.5544 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:46:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.33 = 1.32 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 16:48:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 296 @ 0.0007 = 0.2072 BTC
Feb 09 16:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... 25 ?
Feb 09 16:48:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00064979 = 16.5047 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:48:31 <mod6>	yeah, feels like it.
Feb 09 16:51:22 <Namworld>	35... beat the previous high
Feb 09 16:52:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065487 = 2.8297 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2405 @ 0.00064979 = 1.5627 BTC [-]
Feb 09 16:52:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28822 @ 0.00065488 = 18.875 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:52:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00066058 = 0.9909 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:52:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.00066059 = 0.3633 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0006609 = 3.3045 BTC [+]
Feb 09 16:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35124 @ 0.00066091 = 23.2138 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 16:58:25 <Bugpowdr>	well
Feb 09 16:58:40 <Bugpowdr>	my calls are looking pretty good right now
Feb 09 16:59:06 <Namworld>	yup, must be
Feb 09 16:59:25 <Bugpowdr>	I sold some though on the dump below 19
Feb 09 16:59:27 <Bugpowdr>	oh well
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Feb 09 17:01:21 <Namworld>	eh
Feb 09 17:01:41 <Bugpowdr>	small balls
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Feb 09 17:02:05 <Namworld>	You said yesterday you were waiting for your spreadsheet to update?
Feb 09 17:02:30 <Namworld>	You got an auto-updating one?
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Feb 09 17:04:38 <Bugpowdr>	yah
Feb 09 17:04:49 <Bugpowdr>	not the holdings
Feb 09 17:04:54 <Bugpowdr>	the asset values
Feb 09 17:05:05 <Bugpowdr>	=ImportHtml("mpex.co","table",2)
Feb 09 17:05:14 <Bugpowdr>	then read off that page
Feb 09 17:05:17 <Bugpowdr>	for example
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Feb 09 17:05:53 <Namworld>	yeah, I've released my tools on the forum
Feb 09 17:07:06 <Namworld>	You could even get the spreadsheet to show your options excersising price.
Feb 09 17:07:21 <Namworld>	If not done already
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Feb 09 17:13:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064543 = 2.7889 BTC [-]
Feb 09 17:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9041 @ 0.00064537 = 5.8348 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 17:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00064508 = 6.096 BTC [-]
Feb 09 17:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7288 @ 0.00064447 = 4.6969 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 17:14:15 <ThickAsThieves>	what was MPOE dividend per share most recently?
Feb 09 17:15:14 <Namworld>	0.00002 I think, or near that. Almost as much as SDICE
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Feb 09 17:16:22 <ThickAsThieves>	I couldnt quite figure it out from the prospectus
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Feb 09 17:16:43 <ThickAsThieves>	so there are 100mil paying shares?
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Feb 09 17:17:15 <Bugpowdr>	500mil
Feb 09 17:17:24 <Namworld>	500 million?
Feb 09 17:17:30 <Namworld>	then it's less
Feb 09 17:17:33 <Bugpowdr>	yes
Feb 09 17:17:37 <Bugpowdr>	its much less
Feb 09 17:17:50 <ThickAsThieves>	it shows 2531.17 BTC total dividend last month
Feb 09 17:17:52 <Bugpowdr>	yesh
Feb 09 17:18:06 <Bugpowdr>	;;calc 2531/500000000/.0006
Feb 09 17:18:06 <gribble>	0.00843666666667
Feb 09 17:18:12 <Bugpowdr>	0.84%
Feb 09 17:20:20 <Bugpowdr>	Namworld: yes the options value is calculated both at mid market and as exercise in two separate columns
Feb 09 17:20:35 <Namworld>	cool
Feb 09 17:21:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13412 @ 0.00064447 = 8.6436 BTC [-]
Feb 09 17:21:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6764 @ 0.00064372 = 4.3541 BTC [-]
Feb 09 17:22:39 <jurov>	sold some CoinBr.iDiff-O for 0.07 -> diff over 7 million at March 20?
Feb 09 17:23:15 <jurov>	time to improve their hedge on bitbet :D
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Feb 09 17:26:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Feb 09 17:28:13 <jurov>	and iDiff-E (Feb 20) has spread 0.032 - 0.049 ...we've got quite a forecast now
Feb 09 17:28:18 <jurov>	;;bc,diff
Feb 09 17:28:19 <gribble>	3275464.5865656
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Feb 09 17:29:48 <jurov>	;;bc,diffchange
Feb 09 17:29:49 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 2.75124889803 % based on data since last change | 2.47239535291 % based on data for last three days
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Feb 09 17:35:03 <jurov>	Moved iDiff-E (Feb 20) lowest ask to 0.039 - only 100 available!
Feb 09 17:37:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 33 @ 0.0098 = 0.3234 BTC [-]
Feb 09 17:38:24 <Bowjob>	yawb
Feb 09 17:38:29 <Bowjob>	hows the bear slaughter going on
Feb 09 17:38:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 68 @ 0.0099 = 0.6732 BTC [+]
Feb 09 17:41:27 *	jurov looks out to bowjob from behind his difficulty derivatives, waves vaguely
Feb 09 17:43:00 <jurov>	Yes, this is dog: http://imgur.com/a/pL5PH
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Feb 09 17:46:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064374 = 5.9868 BTC [+]
Feb 09 17:46:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1530 @ 0.00064373 = 0.9849 BTC [-]
Feb 09 17:46:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7036 @ 0.00064372 = 4.5292 BTC [-]
Feb 09 17:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1119 @ 0.00064252 = 0.719 BTC [-]
Feb 09 17:46:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8565 @ 0.00064218 = 5.5003 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 18:06:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 18:08:08 <Namworld>	5 bonus coupons for BTC-BOND
Feb 09 18:08:14 <Namworld>	incoming
Feb 09 18:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6235 @ 0.00064218 = 4.004 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23617 @ 0.00064182 = 15.1579 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.0006392 = 9.9396 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18067 @ 0.00063881 = 11.5414 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:10:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7993 @ 0.00063719 = 5.0931 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:10:30 <Bowjob>	Ooh. looks like Litecoin made a nice recovery too
Feb 09 18:10:32 <Bowjob>	O_O
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Feb 09 18:12:56 <Namworld>	did it?
Feb 09 18:13:27 <galambo>	there is a reward to troll somethingawful . com?? :)
Feb 09 18:13:41 <Bowjob>	well the usd value at least
Feb 09 18:13:47 <Bowjob>	8 cents /ltc
Feb 09 18:13:53 <Bowjob>	from 5.4 ltc a month ago
Feb 09 18:13:58 <Namworld>	ah, yeah
Feb 09 18:14:59 <galambo>	does mircea_popescu have his own irc channel :)
Feb 09 18:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	galambo drop this in -otc
Feb 09 18:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;view 13393
Feb 09 18:16:00 <gribble>	#13393 Sat Feb  9 02:16:26 2013 mircea_popescu BUY 1.0 SA gift cert @ 0.5 BTC ((You will have to make a 9.95 credit card payment on https://secure.somethingawful.com/products/gift-certificate.php?product_type=register ))
Feb 09 18:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1457 @ 0.00063719 = 0.9284 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00063684 = 7.1645 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1795 @ 0.00063656 = 1.1426 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:16:30 <galambo>	what am i looking at here
Feb 09 18:16:46 <galambo>	oh ok
Feb 09 18:17:22 <Bowjob>	then troll SA?
Feb 09 18:17:23 <Bowjob>	;p;
Feb 09 18:17:24 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 09 18:17:49 <Bowjob>	they seem to hate buttcoins
Feb 09 18:18:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5905 @ 0.00063656 = 3.7589 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3893 @ 0.00063438 = 2.4696 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:18:50 <Namworld>	They hate everything
Feb 09 18:19:07 <Namworld>	but their own hate. They're just dislike it, not hate.
Feb 09 18:20:08 <Namworld>	They must be Kefkas or something
Feb 09 18:20:14 <Namworld>	http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kefka_Palazzo
Feb 09 18:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	actually i suppose it's just a front.
Feb 09 18:21:28 <Ukto>	holy crpa.. me night actually hit $30 again
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Feb 09 18:21:47 <jurov>	me night yea
Feb 09 18:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol yup
Feb 09 18:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60198 @ 0.00063547 = 38.254 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 18:25:20 <Bowjob>	basically we are just taking off.. on the way to the moon!
Feb 09 18:26:10 *	jurov ponders these 10 C200Ts
Feb 09 18:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	i was thinking, remarkably enough i didnt sell that many options
Feb 09 18:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.05037102 = 50.371 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 10 @ 0.21662797 = 2.1663 BTC [+]
Feb 09 18:29:11 <jurov>	gone
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Feb 09 18:35:03 <jurov>	lol http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinInvesting  ... anyone dares to add first post?
Feb 09 18:35:26 <kakobreklaa>	why dont you just put it on 4chan
Feb 09 18:35:59 <jurov>	yes? did it work with bit4x?
Feb 09 18:36:31 <jurov>	urlpls
Feb 09 18:36:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 218 @ 0.006 = 1.308 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	isuccumbed who the fuck is that ?
Feb 09 18:41:12 <jurov>	http://satoshitemple.com/index.html "site dedicated to the infinite wisdom of Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto"
Feb 09 18:41:35 <jurov>	Each day I will channel Satoshi's spirit and I will post his message in this page.
Feb 09 18:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	people will leech anything.
Feb 09 18:49:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00064422 = 17.7161 BTC [+]
Feb 09 18:49:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1542 @ 0.00063956 = 0.9862 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:49:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.668 = 8.684 BTC [+]
Feb 09 18:50:09 <truffles>	why isnt mp sleeping
Feb 09 18:50:28 <jurov>	truffles lol
Feb 09 18:51:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+]
Feb 09 18:51:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 3 @ 0.56 = 1.68 BTC [+]
Feb 09 18:51:43 <truffles>	the subreddits are amazing
Feb 09 18:51:56 <truffles>	there is like nudes and everything
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Feb 09 18:52:11 <truffles>	are
Feb 09 18:52:20 <truffles>	english is my 1st langugage...
Feb 09 18:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12812 @ 0.00063956 = 8.194 BTC [-]
Feb 09 18:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00063696 = 5.311 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 18:56:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00064522 = 11.2268 BTC [+]
Feb 09 18:56:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11740 @ 0.00064745 = 7.6011 BTC [+]
Feb 09 18:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	i don't sleep because i sustain myself consuming souls.
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Feb 09 18:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	and on a related note, it looks like i'm getting farsi faq for mpex.
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Feb 09 18:56:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 448 @ 0.0061 = 2.7328 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 18:56:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1182 @ 0.0061 = 7.2102 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 18:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00063696 = 3.4396 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4962 @ 0.00063696 = 3.1606 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7702 @ 0.00063547 = 4.8944 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2765 @ 0.00063438 = 1.7541 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11771 @ 0.00063325 = 7.454 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 19:03:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 22 @ 0.0099 = 0.2178 BTC [+]
Feb 09 19:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00064745 = 3.9494 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 19:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11357 @ 0.00063325 = 7.1918 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2093 @ 0.00063195 = 1.3227 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3507 @ 0.00063195 = 2.2162 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063003 = 6.3003 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9993 @ 0.00063002 = 6.2958 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064745 = 7.122 BTC [+]
Feb 09 19:19:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40007 @ 0.00063002 = 25.2052 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:19:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13412 @ 0.00062912 = 8.4378 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:19:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13380 @ 0.00062888 = 8.4144 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 19:22:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 244 @ 0.0099 = 2.4156 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 19:25:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7020 @ 0.00062888 = 4.4147 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:25:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00062663 = 4.2298 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26430 @ 0.00062071 = 16.4054 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:36:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 490 @ 0.00061978 = 0.3037 BTC [-]
Feb 09 19:37:15 <jurov>	just trying new bitcoind 0.8.0rc1
Feb 09 19:38:02 <jurov>	i like it, after 40mins is almost fully synchronized with locally running bitcoind 0.7
Feb 09 19:38:30 <jurov>	and rpc calls return immediately even during this heavy activity!
Feb 09 19:38:38 <JWU42>	:-)
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Feb 09 19:40:31 <JWU42>	jurov: there a thread on getting it working -- can't recall the switches to have it load the old blockchain
Feb 09 19:40:44 <Bowjob>	dump! dump! dump!
Feb 09 19:41:02 <jurov>	i just moved the .bitcoin dir and copied only conf and wallet file
Feb 09 19:41:20 <Bowjob>	dump usd and switch to btc!!
Feb 09 19:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13861 @ 0.00061978 = 8.5908 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 19:44:19 <jurov>	i enjoy it, but would prefer my s.mpoe holdings to not sink so rapidly
Feb 09 19:48:27 <wao>	:D
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Feb 09 19:52:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.01 = 0.08 BTC [+]
Feb 09 19:52:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+]
Feb 09 19:52:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Feb 09 19:52:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 393 @ 0.01 = 3.93 BTC [+]
Feb 09 19:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21299 @ 0.00063037 = 13.4263 BTC [+]
Feb 09 19:55:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00063403 = 23.3323 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 20:02:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00063926 = 9.8766 BTC [+]
Feb 09 20:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00063545 = 2.4465 BTC [-]
Feb 09 20:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2201 @ 0.00063501 = 1.3977 BTC [-]
Feb 09 20:03:09 <EskimoBob>	Primus - John The Fisherman ... real old school stuff
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Feb 09 20:04:13 <jurov>	sync finished... and it ran with ionice -c 3
Feb 09 20:06:22 <EskimoBob>	jurov: what? your s.mpoe  sinks like shit?
Feb 09 20:07:28 <jurov>	waited for your comment.. wasn;t disappointed
Feb 09 20:07:35 <EskimoBob>	jurov: write this down: An Empty Sack Does Not Stand Up
Feb 09 20:08:00 <jurov>	how many times?
Feb 09 20:08:18 <EskimoBob>	if you are retard, 2 times
Feb 09 20:08:22 <EskimoBob>	or 20
Feb 09 20:08:28 <EskimoBob>	no fkn difference
Feb 09 20:08:38 <jurov>	X X X
Feb 09 20:09:01 <EskimoBob>	:) cute
Feb 09 20:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31910 @ 0.00063298 = 20.1984 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 20:14:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19839 @ 0.00063298 = 12.5577 BTC [-]
Feb 09 20:14:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 461 @ 0.00064237 = 0.2961 BTC [+]
Feb 09 20:14:51 <Bugpowder>	fuk
Feb 09 20:14:55 <Bugpowder>	i was gonna buy that
Feb 09 20:14:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.0061 = 0.1098 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 20:19:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00062742 = 4.9252 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 20:24:24 <ThickAsThieves>	hrm, i can't make a buy order on bitfunder
Feb 09 20:25:40 <ThickAsThieves>	it's not recoginizing my full balance, and i have no open orders
Feb 09 20:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00062742 = 3.0116 BTC [-]
Feb 09 20:28:19 <DeadWeasel>	what you gonna buy on bitfunder?
Feb 09 20:28:40 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, you don't have any reserves?
Feb 09 20:29:34 <jurov>	click your balance in the upper corner and check reserves
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Feb 09 20:36:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00062723 = 5.206 BTC [-]
Feb 09 20:36:53 <ThickAsThieves>	it says 0 resrved
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Feb 09 20:38:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17689 @ 0.00064237 = 11.3629 BTC [+]
Feb 09 20:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00064275 = 6.5239 BTC [+]
Feb 09 20:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.00064286 = 3.1886 BTC [+]
Feb 09 20:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2485 @ 0.00064745 = 1.6089 BTC [+]
Feb 09 20:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2583 @ 0.00064962 = 1.678 BTC [+]
Feb 09 20:38:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22133 @ 0.00064996 = 14.3856 BTC [+]
Feb 09 20:43:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.719 = 32.355 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 20:45:23 <Bowjob>	Whoa, Havelock
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Feb 09 20:49:53 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 09 20:49:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.93000, Best ask: 23.94870, Bid-ask spread: 0.01870, Last trade: 23.94870, 24 hour volume: 35935.13720042, 24 hour low: 22.58468, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.31661
Feb 09 20:50:07 <DeadWeasel>	jesus
Feb 09 20:50:08 <Bugpowder>	nice
Feb 09 20:50:17 <Bugpowder>	3000 calls from 17-20
Feb 09 20:50:18 <DeadWeasel>	expectations at 24?
Feb 09 20:50:20 <Bugpowder>	:)
Feb 09 20:50:48 <Bugpowder>	Lets do 30
Feb 09 20:51:11 <Bugpowder>	I expect it to pull back 1-2 $ briefly than continue up to 27 by opex
Feb 09 20:51:15 <DeadWeasel>	17.42K to get to 25!
Feb 09 20:51:25 <Bugpowder>	o?
Feb 09 20:51:27 <Bugpowder>	that's up
Feb 09 20:51:29 <Bugpowder>	actually
Feb 09 20:51:32 <DeadWeasel>	sounds reasonable
Feb 09 20:51:35 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 30
Feb 09 20:51:37 <gribble>	There are currently 27737.938 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 718342.093212 USD in total.
Feb 09 20:51:40 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 25
Feb 09 20:51:42 <gribble>	There are currently 17384.043 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 429617.169782 USD in total.
Feb 09 20:52:08 <DeadWeasel>	half a mil to clear 25.
Feb 09 20:52:20 <DeadWeasel>	whale pump and dumps in action again.
Feb 09 20:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00063413 = 1.7756 BTC [-]
Feb 09 20:52:31 <DeadWeasel>	holy crap look at those sell walls go up
Feb 09 20:52:56 <DeadWeasel>	aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there gone.
Feb 09 20:52:59 <DeadWeasel>	they're
Feb 09 20:53:14 <Bugpowder>	huh?
Feb 09 20:53:23 <Bugpowder>	what did i miss/
Feb 09 20:53:25 <DeadWeasel>	bitcoinity.org/markets can act a little funny sometimes.
Feb 09 20:53:29 <DeadWeasel>	nothing.
Feb 09 20:53:45 <DeadWeasel>	they they do volume on the lower graph, asks.
Feb 09 20:53:58 <DeadWeasel>	is funny
Feb 09 20:54:26 <Bugpowder>	oh I see
Feb 09 20:54:39 <Bugpowder>	someone put up a  wall at 25
Feb 09 20:54:45 <Bugpowder>	thats why its 17k
Feb 09 20:55:00 <Bugpowder>	probably just for the weekend till his wire cclears
Feb 09 20:55:24 <DeadWeasel>	bitcoin is great fun.
Feb 09 20:55:27 <DeadWeasel>	i need whiskey
Feb 09 20:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063413 = 1.5853 BTC [-]
Feb 09 20:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3354 @ 0.00063741 = 2.1379 BTC [+]
Feb 09 21:04:14 <Bowjob>	it seems to me
Feb 09 21:04:30 <Bowjob>	that the idea behind bitcoin is..
Feb 09 21:04:33 <Bowjob>	pump and dont dump
Feb 09 21:08:09 <benkay>	i'm waiting for the developing world to figure it out
Feb 09 21:08:20 <benkay>	mkt cap ~ 2 US street corner banks atm
Feb 09 21:08:52 <benkay>	not to mention the friction in software that keeps normal humans out
Feb 09 21:08:59 <benkay>	fix those problems
Feb 09 21:09:06 <benkay>	boom, to several billion.
Feb 09 21:09:19 <benkay>	but i r idiots as my parents say regularly :(
Feb 09 21:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064003 = 0.64 BTC [+]
Feb 09 21:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4146 @ 0.00064002 = 2.6535 BTC [-]
Feb 09 21:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11988 @ 0.00063575 = 7.6214 BTC [-]
Feb 09 21:14:52 <mod6>	benkay: it'll be orders of magnitude more imho
Feb 09 21:15:07 <benkay>	yeah. somewhere, right?
Feb 09 21:15:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1390 @ 0.00063125 = 0.8774 BTC [-]
Feb 09 21:15:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11860 @ 0.00062759 = 7.4432 BTC [-]
Feb 09 21:15:32 <benkay>	i have this attitude that beyond more than 5 orders of magnitude it just doesn't make sense to try and be accurate.
Feb 09 21:15:35 <benkay>	6B?
Feb 09 21:15:39 <benkay>	60B?
Feb 09 21:15:54 <benkay>	don't care. holdings will be worth something cool at that point, and i won't really be able to tell the difference.
Feb 09 21:16:05 <benkay>	in the meantime, focus on being a better coder every day.
Feb 09 21:16:32 <mod6>	well, i figure with say 600-800Tn of derivatives out there divided over say 11mn...
Feb 09 21:17:02 <mod6>	plus some
Feb 09 21:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0006276 = 0.6276 BTC [+]
Feb 09 21:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00062759 = 2.5016 BTC [-]
Feb 09 21:17:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4303 @ 0.00062205 = 2.6767 BTC [-]
Feb 09 21:17:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15911 @ 0.00061978 = 9.8613 BTC [-]
Feb 09 21:18:06 <benkay>	sorry, not tracking. 11 million what?
Feb 09 21:18:18 <mod6>	well, btc total so far.
Feb 09 21:18:31 <benkay>	oh, and talking about all derivatives on the market?
Feb 09 21:18:40 <mod6>	oh i guess 10.761... or something
Feb 09 21:22:06 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.satoshidice.com/ not loading?
Feb 09 21:22:17 <DeadWeasel>	so I gather that all assets stabilize or go up when BTC jump in price?  by virtue of ....  BTC being worth more?
Feb 09 21:22:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2785 @ 0.00062414 = 1.7382 BTC [+]
Feb 09 21:22:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7415 @ 0.00061978 = 4.5957 BTC [-]
Feb 09 21:22:31 <DeadWeasel>	ThickAsThieves: loads fo rme
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Feb 09 21:22:55 <ThickAsThieves>	just hangs for me
Feb 09 21:23:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6787 @ 0.00063233 = 4.2916 BTC [+]
Feb 09 21:23:28 <DeadWeasel>	does it start loading?
Feb 09 21:23:36 <DeadWeasel>	or just blank? no data?
Feb 09 21:23:38 <ThickAsThieves>	partially loads someitmes, but without any dynamic text
Feb 09 21:24:08 <ThickAsThieves>	same behavior in two browsers
Feb 09 21:24:58 <DeadWeasel>	lagging pings
Feb 09 21:25:10 <DeadWeasel>	maybe since it's in ireland.
Feb 09 21:25:36 <DeadWeasel>	zero packet loss
Feb 09 21:25:42 <DeadWeasel>	must be you.  on wireless?
Feb 09 21:25:48 <DeadWeasel>	somebody turned on a microwave next door.
Feb 09 21:26:28 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Feb 09 21:26:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i am on wireless
Feb 09 21:27:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1667 @ 0.00064996 = 1.0835 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 21:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00065009 = 8.2236 BTC [+]
Feb 09 21:27:19 <ThickAsThieves>	just tried a wired pc, same prob
Feb 09 21:27:25 <DeadWeasel>	weird.
Feb 09 21:27:47 <DeadWeasel>	ping -t satoshidice.com
Feb 09 21:27:53 <DeadWeasel>	see if you have packet loss.
Feb 09 21:29:02 <ThickAsThieves>	sec
Feb 09 21:29:15 <ThickAsThieves>	whatsmydns.net shows all Xs for NS entries
Feb 09 21:29:16 <mod6>	don't you have to put in a ttl with -t>
Feb 09 21:29:17 <mod6>	?
Feb 09 21:29:23 <Ukto>	ThickAsThieves #bitfunder :)
Feb 09 21:29:28 <DeadWeasel>	if you want it to stop...
Feb 09 21:29:30 <DeadWeasel>	:)
Feb 09 21:29:37 <mod6>	heheh
Feb 09 21:30:05 <DeadWeasel>	ThickAsThieves: hit CTRL + C to stop it and get results
Feb 09 21:30:09 <DeadWeasel>	forgot to say that.
Feb 09 21:30:37 <ThickAsThieves>	0 loss
Feb 09 21:30:56 <DeadWeasel>	odd
Feb 09 21:32:12 <DeadWeasel>	that dns thing you mentioned that i just saw seems problematic too.
Feb 09 21:32:34 <ThickAsThieves>	it finally loaded in one tab, after quite a while
Feb 09 21:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7483 @ 0.00065031 = 4.8663 BTC [+]
Feb 09 21:34:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8683 @ 0.00063401 = 5.5051 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 21:47:30 <DeadWeasel>	I've never seen the Stochastic RSI level out there before. http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg30ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zi1gStochRSIzi2gRSIzi3gCOscillatorzi4gStochRSIzv
Feb 09 21:48:07 <DeadWeasel>	always pokes up, levels a bit, then drops again
Feb 09 21:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00062002 = 6.5412 BTC [-]
Feb 09 21:49:16 <DeadWeasel>	any idea what i could buy into that would make 10% overnight?
Feb 09 21:49:21 <DeadWeasel>	or by wed?
Feb 09 21:52:22 <benkay>	DeadWeasel: what does Stochastic RSI indicate?
Feb 09 21:52:29 <benkay>	nvm, i r google
Feb 09 21:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.00062002 = 22.0107 BTC [-]
Feb 09 21:53:41 <DeadWeasel>	http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:stochrsi
Feb 09 21:53:46 <DeadWeasel>	explains in better than i could
Feb 09 21:54:07 <DeadWeasel>	all i know is I ain't seen it like this before.
Feb 09 21:54:17 <DeadWeasel>	that there be tha truf.
Feb 09 22:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00062002 = 11.6874 BTC [-]
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Feb 09 22:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00062002 = 22.8787 BTC [-]
Feb 09 22:05:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 192 @ 0.0062 = 1.1904 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 22:10:18 <Namworld>	Still no one selling S.BBET at a decent price?
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Feb 09 22:10:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:11:12 <DeadWeasel>	i don't see bbet on bitfunder. why?
Feb 09 22:11:12 <Bugpowder>	Define decent
Feb 09 22:11:23 <BitHub>	what's bbet?
Feb 09 22:11:29 <BitHub>	same guys that did s.dice?
Feb 09 22:11:35 <Bugpowder>	No
Feb 09 22:11:45 <BitHub>	bitbet.us?
Feb 09 22:11:47 <Bugpowder>	Mp and kakobrekla
Feb 09 22:11:50 <Bugpowder>	Yes
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Feb 09 22:12:08 <BitHub>	i would buy shares in that but i own bitbet.com.au and bitbet.asia
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Feb 09 22:12:19 <Bugpowder>	Lol
Feb 09 22:12:49 <Bugpowder>	Namworld, like I am amazed I got out of
Feb 09 22:12:51 <BitHub>	but maybe i should buy some shares in ts.bbet
Feb 09 22:13:08 <Bugpowder>	Bbet at an average price of 130000
Feb 09 22:13:17 <Bugpowder>	2btc revenue
Feb 09 22:13:26 <Bugpowder>	Err dividend
Feb 09 22:13:27 <DeadWeasel>	what exchange is it available at?
Feb 09 22:13:35 <Bugpowder>	Mpex
Feb 09 22:13:37 <Namworld>	MPEx
Feb 09 22:13:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 24 @ 0.01 = 0.24 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:13:46 <Namworld>	and BTCT.co
Feb 09 22:13:48 <DeadWeasel>	i guess I should say what passthroughs offer it?
Feb 09 22:13:56 <Bugpowder>	Namworld what do I think is a good price
Feb 09 22:13:57 <BitHub>	will it be offered on bitfunder?
Feb 09 22:13:57 <Namworld>	mine on BTCT.co
Feb 09 22:14:03 <DeadWeasel>	thx namworld
Feb 09 22:14:04 <Namworld>	I'd pay up to 0.00065000
Feb 09 22:14:08 <DeadWeasel>	i'll sign up.
Feb 09 22:14:09 <Namworld>	bugpowder
Feb 09 22:14:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0062 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:14:33 <Bugpowder>	I sold down to 27000
Feb 09 22:14:40 <Bugpowder>	Or 30000
Feb 09 22:14:45 <BitHub>	i think bitfunder might offer it
Feb 09 22:14:48 <Bugpowder>	27000 I think
Feb 09 22:14:57 <Bugpowder>	Have fun with that dudes
Feb 09 22:15:01 <Namworld>	I'm buying them for the passthrough, I don't hold BBET personally
Feb 09 22:15:03 <DeadWeasel>	That's quite a Contract on the register page, way to cover yer booty!
Feb 09 22:15:03 <BitHub>	they said yesterday they got some announcements coming soon
Feb 09 22:15:07 <Namworld>	I just want a few thousands
Feb 09 22:15:25 <BitHub>	bitfunder is just easy to use
Feb 09 22:16:50 <BitHub>	confirm bitfunder is going to offer it
Feb 09 22:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11987 @ 0.00062479 = 7.4894 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:19:14 <ThickAsThieves>	I also like BitFunder's site
Feb 09 22:19:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062377 = 4.1169 BTC [-]
Feb 09 22:19:47 <ThickAsThieves>	I know you were all wondering
Feb 09 22:19:50 <BitHub>	i was just speaking with them, they are going to offer bbet shares
Feb 09 22:19:57 <BitHub>	so just wait
Feb 09 22:20:13 <Namworld>	What's the problem with BTCT.co?
Feb 09 22:20:28 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub so what's bitbet.com.au do ?
Feb 09 22:22:03 <BitHub>	enables you to bet on sporting events or social bets etc, at proper betting odds
Feb 09 22:22:04 <ThickAsThieves>	No problem with BTCTco, I use it too, but aesthetically it's a little busier
Feb 09 22:22:32 <BitHub>	our first big test is the fifa world cuo
Feb 09 22:22:33 <BitHub>	cup
Feb 09 22:22:38 <BitHub>	so we're just preparing for that
Feb 09 22:22:42 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.usabilitypost.com/2010/07/23/a-mild-case-of-borderitis/
Feb 09 22:22:59 <BitHub>	i may offer a bet on the australian election tho as our first test
Feb 09 22:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	from what i see it's just a register this page ?
Feb 09 22:23:17 <BitHub>	correct, its not live
Feb 09 22:23:20 <BitHub>	atm
Feb 09 22:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	mkay.
Feb 09 22:23:45 <Bugpowder>	Registration is your first mistake
Feb 09 22:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin has 1000 developers and like 3 promoters
Feb 09 22:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	it needs exactly the reverse : like 3 devs and 1k+ promoters.
Feb 09 22:24:13 <BitHub>	i was thinking mircea why don't more bitcoin companies just hire sales team
Feb 09 22:24:22 <BitHub>	to promote and market bitcoin
Feb 09 22:24:24 <ThickAsThieves>	does bitcoin foundation do outreach/mktg?
Feb 09 22:24:27 <mircea_popescu>	well, why exactly are you doing that instead of earning referals on bitbet ?
Feb 09 22:24:30 <Bugpowder>	Security team would be better idea
Feb 09 22:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	cause you think you're too good to make money or something, i'd guess.
Feb 09 22:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	same thing goes for about everyone. just make more services, as if that's where it's at.
Feb 09 22:25:18 <BitHub>	i had my own idea of doing a gambling site and a few weeks later i see bitbet.us pop up after i already purchased my domains
Feb 09 22:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 09 22:25:30 <BitHub>	i was just about to purchase bitbet.com but the guy pulled out of the auction
Feb 09 22:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	this is what i'm saying. everyone thinks they should develop.
Feb 09 22:25:43 <BitHub>	i'm not a developer
Feb 09 22:25:47 <BitHub>	i hire them
Feb 09 22:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	well then why aren't you pushing things that are already there ?
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Feb 09 22:26:17 <BitHub>	because i want to push my own things in my own market here
Feb 09 22:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	im prolly going way too strongly at this, i don't mean you personally.
Feb 09 22:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2019 @ 0.00062377 = 1.2594 BTC [-]
Feb 09 22:26:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3031 @ 0.00062002 = 1.8793 BTC [-]
Feb 09 22:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	right. that's exactly the problem. there's 1000 people who all think they're cowboys.
Feb 09 22:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it'll take some (more) time.
Feb 09 22:26:43 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, who pays for the marketing and promo of btc?
Feb 09 22:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves in general ? nobody really.
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Feb 09 22:26:58 <ThickAsThieves>	mtgox?
Feb 09 22:27:01 <BitHub>	i'm paying for my own marketing team
Feb 09 22:27:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean who should
Feb 09 22:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think anybody should.
Feb 09 22:27:10 <BitHub>	but i will be marketing and promoting bitcoin on the side
Feb 09 22:27:18 <ThickAsThieves>	oh
Feb 09 22:27:29 <ThickAsThieves>	but you said it needs 1000 to 1
Feb 09 22:27:33 <mircea_popescu>	yea, that's the other thing, everyone and his team. it's insanity.
Feb 09 22:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves take a mature market, like say porn. or books. or whatever you will.
Feb 09 22:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	out of 1000 people involved, 999 are pushing something someone else owns.
Feb 09 22:28:01 <mircea_popescu>	that's the natural order of things.
Feb 09 22:28:06 <BitHub>	mircea i try and help out in the community and answer as many questions as i can, i give away alot of btc donations n stuff just for fun
Feb 09 22:28:10 <BitHub>	what more do you want out of me?
Feb 09 22:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	in bitcoin, 999 people are making new products which don't go anywhere.
Feb 09 22:28:24 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub srsly, don't take it personally
Feb 09 22:28:28 <ThickAsThieves>	so a good example would be:
Feb 09 22:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	i don't mean it about you personally at all.
Feb 09 22:28:31 <mircea_popescu>	im just whining.
Feb 09 22:28:37 <ThickAsThieves>	I set up a brokerage for SDICE
Feb 09 22:28:48 <BitHub>	okey :) i know what you're saying tho because i haven't been able to get any help really
Feb 09 22:28:49 <ThickAsThieves>	and convince peopel to buy in in meatspace
Feb 09 22:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves baby, there's already how many of those ? 4 ? 5 ?
Feb 09 22:28:53 <BitHub>	but i do try and give back
Feb 09 22:28:56 <mircea_popescu>	why is a 6th needed ?
Feb 09 22:29:01 <ThickAsThieves>	I mean IRL
Feb 09 22:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20076 @ 0.00062002 = 12.4475 BTC [-]
Feb 09 22:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	you mean irl ? what's that mean ?
Feb 09 22:29:11 <ThickAsThieves>	like promote buying shares
Feb 09 22:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	okay...
Feb 09 22:29:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno
Feb 09 22:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	what, go door to door ? wth you mean irl ?
Feb 09 22:30:04 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe phone sales, print ads, maybe convincing rich people
Feb 09 22:30:07 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno
Feb 09 22:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, are you somewhere where that's even legal ?
Feb 09 22:30:19 <ThickAsThieves>	what should these 999 peddlers peddle
Feb 09 22:30:47 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm just trying to think of examples of how btc world might operate like porn or such
Feb 09 22:30:54 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves let's face it, ok ? all these teams are a guy with MAYBE 10k liquid to his name, a freind from school and maybe some chick either of them or both are diddling.
Feb 09 22:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	this isn't a team. this is a group of young people, enthusiasts, whatever.
Feb 09 22:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	they aren't going to compete. bitcoin seems new, but seriously. it takes a lot more than three kids.
Feb 09 22:31:26 <mircea_popescu>	and their 10k.
Feb 09 22:31:51 <BitHub>	got to start somewhere tho, i think the biggest problem is all the amatuers and scammers
Feb 09 22:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	the biggest problem is that nobody wants to start small.
Feb 09 22:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1713 @ 0.00062479 = 1.0703 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10176 @ 0.00062692 = 6.3795 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1484 @ 0.00063269 = 0.9389 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	dumbasses make ripple. either of them spent the time to get the experience ? no THEY KNOW
Feb 09 22:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	THEY CAN
Feb 09 22:32:22 <mircea_popescu>	TJHEY DO
Feb 09 22:32:28 <mircea_popescu>	fuckall they do, thing;'s unusable.
Feb 09 22:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	colored coins, same business.
Feb 09 22:32:46 <mircea_popescu>	"they have to start somewhere" ? how about they start by working their butt off for something that's already here
Feb 09 22:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	then they start something.
Feb 09 22:33:14 <BitHub>	so
Feb 09 22:33:22 <BitHub>	we should all be working for mtgox and sdice?
Feb 09 22:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	yes. pick a service you like. i don't care what it is, but a name.
Feb 09 22:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	push it till you make enough to live off.
Feb 09 22:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	THEN you're in a position to know why the thing you're trying atm won't take off.
Feb 09 22:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	and don't get pissed off at me, i'm honestly not that involved either way.
Feb 09 22:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	but it has to be said.
Feb 09 22:34:56 <BitHub>	i think that's a good thing about a free market, you do have alot of cowboy's and stuff but i think throught the years alot of those guys get weeded out
Feb 09 22:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	yes, i agree it's a good thing. do you know who it;s a good thing for ?
Feb 09 22:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	me.
Feb 09 22:35:25 <mircea_popescu>	i got fuckall knows how many btc, if you kill yourself trying a project that doesn't have a chance you loose, my btc gains.
Feb 09 22:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	that's the thing. 1k kids with a dream today, 1k corpses on the metaphorical business field of battle, next year.
Feb 09 22:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	their metaphorical blood fattening the metaphorical earth.
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Feb 09 22:36:23 <mircea_popescu>	seems senseless to me. but then again, im just an asshole so.
Feb 09 22:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	go ahead.
Feb 09 22:36:41 <BitHub>	sooo, ThickAsThieves i'm thinking to send some btc to bitfunder to get it ready
Feb 09 22:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00063785 = 4.146 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:37:23 <ThickAsThieves>	get what ready?
Feb 09 22:37:33 <BitHub>	to buy some bbet shares
Feb 09 22:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub these other folks think it's maybe oversold by now. they may be right.
Feb 09 22:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	it pays 1% on referrals, if you get someone to bet 100 btc that's 1btc for you.
Feb 09 22:38:19 <ThickAsThieves>	I'm not interested in bbet shares atm
Feb 09 22:38:43 <BitHub>	oh must of been someone else i was talking to
Feb 09 22:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Feb 09 22:39:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0003 / 0.00091228 / 0.0015999 (20800 shares, 18.98 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00149797 / 0.002 (473231 shares, 708.89 BTC)
Feb 09 22:39:33 <BitHub>	still cheap
Feb 09 22:39:45 <mircea_popescu>	that's like 9k total
Feb 09 22:44:07 <Namworld>	try BTCT.co, I have a BBET passthrough there already
Feb 09 22:44:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2627 @ 0.00063444 = 1.6667 BTC [-]
Feb 09 22:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00063168 = 4.2007 BTC [-]
Feb 09 22:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld what's it called ?
Feb 09 22:44:41 <BitHub>	also bitfunder will be offering bbet shares soon
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Feb 09 22:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	Final SD Profit:            60813.98753788 BTC
Feb 09 22:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	fuck me.
Feb 09 22:46:53 <BitHub>	awww yeeee
Feb 09 22:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	it's making another 20k this month ?!
Feb 09 22:46:56 <Ukto>	No thanks, I'm good MP
Feb 09 22:47:04 <BitHub>	time to pay daddy a lil dividend
Feb 09 22:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto you haxxor you, when do i see bf ticker in here already!
Feb 09 22:47:37 <Ukto>	I have been trying to wrap up the new BF features for a couple days now
Feb 09 22:47:44 <Ukto>	lots of distractions
Feb 09 22:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	do you have any idea how inconvenient it is to not check the various stuff going on over there ?
Feb 09 22:47:59 *	Ukto giggles
Feb 09 22:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	looking at dooglus' graphs no wonder the fucking whale bought 1mn sdice today
Feb 09 22:48:18 <Ukto>	hey, you got your favicon you wanted
Feb 09 22:48:25 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 09 22:48:27 <BitHub>	oh, a bf ticker would be so friggen good
Feb 09 22:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	no but srsl;y, you have to do it already.
Feb 09 22:48:46 <Ukto>	BitHub: yeah I will be pushing the api for kako to set it up in a few days
Feb 09 22:49:31 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves do you consider stuff like trolling sa bitcoin marketing ?
Feb 09 22:49:59 <BitHub>	professional trollers for only 2btc a week
Feb 09 22:50:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0062 = 6.2 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub it's a tough question he got. what even constitutes btc marketing ?
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Feb 09 22:50:45 <mircea_popescu>	im pushing it in some ways, many other people are too, prolly more than me
Feb 09 22:51:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i think it does actually help
Feb 09 22:51:21 <ThickAsThieves>	probly not ideal
Feb 09 22:51:26 <ThickAsThieves>	but it is attention
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Feb 09 22:52:04 <BitHub>	you can outsource and hire proper marketers
Feb 09 22:52:06 <BitHub>	very cheaply
Feb 09 22:52:19 <vampireb>	folks, so S.DICE pays 2000BTC for 10mil or 100mil shares?
Feb 09 22:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub yeah, but what'd they do ?
Feb 09 22:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb 2k for 10mn last month. by the looks of it 5-10k for the whole 50mn this month
Feb 09 22:53:00 <BitHub>	in any business mircea when you have a new product or something you hire a sales team or marketing team that goes out as pimps out whatever you want
Feb 09 22:53:25 <vampireb>	so since 3% were released, so now it will pay for 13% instead of 10%
Feb 09 22:53:25 <BitHub>	and
Feb 09 22:53:26 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub i understand that part. the problem here is, bitcoin selling is different from most anything else.
Feb 09 22:53:29 <vampireb>	ok thanks
Feb 09 22:53:31 <ThickAsThieves>	whats their angle though?
Feb 09 22:53:47 <ThickAsThieves>	safer than fiat?
Feb 09 22:53:50 <BitHub>	i have to tell marketing people how to do their job?
Feb 09 22:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb no, they pay for the whole 50mn (which obviously 37% whatever goes right back to erik)
Feb 09 22:53:57 <ThickAsThieves>	more profitable than wall street?
Feb 09 22:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub you have to give them an angle.
Feb 09 22:54:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4373 @ 0.000631 = 2.7594 BTC [-]
Feb 09 22:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00063785 = 3.0617 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10477 @ 0.00064076 = 6.7132 BTC [+]
Feb 09 22:54:25 <BitHub>	their angle is, its a new thing called bitcoin, explaining it to people
Feb 09 22:54:37 <vampireb>	i thought there were 100 mil of shares, not 50 mil?
Feb 09 22:54:41 <ThickAsThieves>	but why does one want a bitcoin?
Feb 09 22:54:45 <vampireb>	erik sold only 10%, kept 90%
Feb 09 22:55:00 <ThickAsThieves>	vamp, correct sorta
Feb 09 22:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb yes, 100mn shares, but owner may never sell more than half
Feb 09 22:55:05 <vampireb>	ic
Feb 09 22:55:05 <BitHub>	a whole wide range of reasons, do i really need to go in detail?
Feb 09 22:55:23 <ThickAsThieves>	only if you wanna continue the conversation
Feb 09 22:55:26 <ThickAsThieves>	idc
Feb 09 22:55:30 <vampireb>	i am just trying to figure out amount of divident per share
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Feb 09 22:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub the problem is this : the fixed cost to get someone into btc is huge
Feb 09 22:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	how are they going to close the loop ?
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Feb 09 22:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb a 1mn block will likely get about 200 btc at current (20k) estimated profit for the month.
Feb 09 22:56:11 <vampireb>	~3.5% / mo that not bad
Feb 09 22:56:15 <Chaang-Noi>	so i see riple is active, what exactly does it do again? how is it differnet from bitcoin other than using a premined coin?
Feb 09 22:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142150.0 Chaang-Noi
Feb 09 22:57:00 <ThickAsThieves>	my wife works in nonprofit sector, i was thinking that nonprofits should uptake bitcoin acceptance for donations
Feb 09 22:57:06 <vampireb>	goat did you get unbanned or something?
Feb 09 22:57:09 <ThickAsThieves>	just claim them as anonymous donations
Feb 09 22:57:15 <ThickAsThieves>	after converting to fiat
Feb 09 22:57:28 <vampireb>	or theymos supressed your avatar
Feb 09 22:57:35 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves possibly.
Feb 09 22:57:36 <BitHub>	i was thinking to setup a service to collect donations for celebs and charaties and stuff, but might get in trouble
Feb 09 22:57:47 <BitHub>	even tho i would give them 100% of the bitcoin
Feb 09 22:57:57 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks MP
Feb 09 22:58:07 <ThickAsThieves>	like domestic violence shelters or dog shelters, etc
Feb 09 22:58:10 <Chaang-Noi>	vamp, i can now send PMs
Feb 09 22:58:36 <BitHub>	see i think you would hire a marketing team to sell the idea of bitcoin to merchants first
Feb 09 22:58:53 <BitHub>	i think that's what bitpay is doing atm
Feb 09 22:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	it is.
Feb 09 22:59:34 <thestringpuller>	this is the most active I've seen the channel in awhile
Feb 09 23:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4729 @ 0.00062002 = 2.9321 BTC [-]
Feb 09 23:00:07 <Chaang-Noi>	mircea, that link seems to show what is wrong with Ripple, my question is, why did they even bother to make ripple, what can it do that bitcoin cant?
Feb 09 23:00:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0062 = 3.1 BTC [+]
Feb 09 23:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi i have not yet been able to glean that.
Feb 09 23:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	as far as i can tell, it's all some dorks who wanna be developers cause they figure its cool.
Feb 09 23:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like kids wanted to be rockstars in 1970
Feb 09 23:01:02 <BitHub>	haha
Feb 09 23:01:18 <BitHub>	its made up of some very interesting characters, for sure.
Feb 09 23:01:24 <Chaang-Noi>	ripple seems like a step backwards :/
Feb 09 23:01:33 <vampireb>	wth is ripple
Feb 09 23:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb some bizzare shit, i haven't gotten it myself.
Feb 09 23:01:50 <Chaang-Noi>	www.ripple.com
Feb 09 23:02:13 <Chaang-Noi>	it is like a centralized bitcoin right?
Feb 09 23:02:47 <Chaang-Noi>	this seems silly... i expected google of facebook to do something like this but these clowns on their own? hmmm
Feb 09 23:04:03 <Chaang-Noi>	oh JoelKatz is involved with ripple, lol
Feb 09 23:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, they've been all over how i hate them cause they r competitors and other nefarious reasons.
Feb 09 23:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6673 @ 0.00064076 = 4.2758 BTC [+]
Feb 09 23:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00064483 = 8.3183 BTC [+]
Feb 09 23:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	fuck knows why people get so wrapped up in that nonsense. anyway.
Feb 09 23:04:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16677 @ 0.00064505 = 10.7575 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 23:06:00 <Chaang-Noi>	it seems you can create debt on ripple somehow... i wonder if this will end in tears
Feb 09 23:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	So, shareholders fund the entire startup costs of the company and end up with 38% 'ownership.'  It was exactly this point, what is ASICMiner's % of the company, that was debated in some detail when ASICMiner announced the IPO.
Feb 09 23:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile people ragging on asicminer hardcore.
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Feb 09 23:07:16 <BitHub>	why, what happened with asicminer?
Feb 09 23:07:20 <Ukto>	hey Chaang-Noi
Feb 09 23:07:21 <vampireb>	for some reasons ripple was e-numbered lol
Feb 09 23:07:26 <vampireb>	i tought^^
Feb 09 23:07:53 <BitHub>	38% ownership is pretty sad
Feb 09 23:08:01 <maximian>	I can't understand how Ripple can take off… it requires that you establish establish credit relationships with your friends or associates. I'm too fucking lazy to do that.
Feb 09 23:08:03 <BitHub>	should be 50/50 at least
Feb 09 23:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub well... it was the original offer iirc.
Feb 09 23:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	maximian part of why im saying i dont get it is in the hopes someone goes "no you fucking idiot, it's like so and SO! see ?"
Feb 09 23:08:32 <BitHub>	did you buy any asicminer shares?
Feb 09 23:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	so far no such luck.
Feb 09 23:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub i shorted some long ago. i'd short some more but meh.
Feb 09 23:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	they're not on an exchange, too much hassle.
Feb 09 23:08:52 <maximian>	right
Feb 09 23:09:04 <Ukto>	Chaang-Noi: Hed, joelKats, and a few others
Feb 09 23:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	wait. hed, what hed ?
Feb 09 23:09:17 <Ukto>	Jed
Feb 09 23:09:20 <Ukto>	you asshole :P
Feb 09 23:09:23 <Chaang-Noi>	Hi Ukto
Feb 09 23:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	aok
Feb 09 23:09:40 *	Ukto draws a mustache on mircea_popescu with a perm marker
Feb 09 23:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	dude if you said hed hoelkatz i'd have totally gotten it.
Feb 09 23:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	but no, you gotta be fancy and shit
Feb 09 23:09:46 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 09 23:10:00 <Ukto>	WeExchange is the first, and only ripple gateway at the moment
Feb 09 23:10:22 <Ukto>	I can confidently tell you, quite a bit of currency has already passed into ripple.
Feb 09 23:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	so can i create ripple debt, sell it to weex cash bitcoins and arrivederci ?
Feb 09 23:10:36 <Ukto>	Doesnt work that way
Feb 09 23:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	which way does it work ?
Feb 09 23:10:44 <vampireb>	since i inherently dont trust anyone, why would i trust a friend of a friend
Feb 09 23:10:51 <Ukto>	vampireb: you shouldnt
Feb 09 23:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb because butt ?
Feb 09 23:10:54 <vampireb>	i woulnt trust 1k to my gf.. especially her friend
Feb 09 23:10:55 <Ukto>	thats what I am trying to say
Feb 09 23:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00062877 = 10.9406 BTC [-]
Feb 09 23:11:17 <Ukto>	You dont WANT to trust a friend of a friend of a friend
Feb 09 23:11:19 <Ukto>	in fact
Feb 09 23:11:23 <Ukto>	you dont want to trust friends
Feb 09 23:11:27 <Ukto>	unless you are prepaid
Feb 09 23:11:29 <BitHub>	should i trust bitfloor with all my btc?
Feb 09 23:11:33 <vampireb>	expecially about money, dont trust friends...
Feb 09 23:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb sounds to me like you need a new gf.
Feb 09 23:11:35 <Ukto>	BitHub: perhaps
Feb 09 23:11:39 <mod6>	BitHub: all?!
Feb 09 23:11:39 <BitHub>	haha
Feb 09 23:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub no.
Feb 09 23:11:43 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 09 23:11:47 <Ukto>	the real idea
Feb 09 23:11:56 <Ukto>	is that you pick your gateways as issuers
Feb 09 23:11:58 <Ukto>	and trust THEM
Feb 09 23:12:00 <Ukto>	for example
Feb 09 23:12:10 <Ukto>	I might only trust MPEX issued USD
Feb 09 23:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much the only exchange i'd trust with btc/fiat atm is the bitcoin-central.net ppl
Feb 09 23:12:18 <Ukto>	and BitHub may only trust GOX issued USD
Feb 09 23:12:23 <vampireb>	well.. i got a new one :-) the old one still owes me shit load of money
Feb 09 23:12:23 <Ukto>	these are non-compatable
Feb 09 23:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto how do you verify it's mpex issued ?
Feb 09 23:12:35 <Ukto>	but vampireb might trust both
Feb 09 23:12:40 <BitHub>	i was very cautious about using weex and bitfunder at first because i was really unsure about it, but so far its been good experience
Feb 09 23:12:45 <Ukto>	and have an 'offer' in the network to exchange them for a small fee
Feb 09 23:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb have her pay back in blowjobs. let new gf get them
Feb 09 23:13:03 <Chaang-Noi>	MP you dont trust btc-e ?
Feb 09 23:13:04 <vampireb>	its almost impossible to collect ious from friends or family
Feb 09 23:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi these guys specifically because they have the french bank insurance thing.
Feb 09 23:13:34 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: your ripple wallet doesnt just account for totals by ISO name
Feb 09 23:13:38 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Feb 09 23:13:39 <Ukto>	they are just sum'd that way
Feb 09 23:13:44 <mircea_popescu>	any other exchange, including mtgox, could just close tomorrow and well... enjoy liquidators
Feb 09 23:13:52 <Ukto>	in fact, you are holding issued notes signed by the issuer
Feb 09 23:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00062002 = 12.2454 BTC [-]
Feb 09 23:13:56 <Ukto>	that have an ISO designation
Feb 09 23:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto like gpg signed ?
Feb 09 23:14:03 <Ukto>	kinda
Feb 09 23:14:06 <Ukto>	but its not needed
Feb 09 23:14:14 <Ukto>	its all stored in the p2p ledger database
Feb 09 23:14:21 <Chaang-Noi>	Ukto are involved with ripple, also can you tell me why this system is differnt than btc?
Feb 09 23:14:32 <Ukto>	Chaang-Noi: I ahve been
Feb 09 23:14:33 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 09 23:14:44 <Ukto>	and I am not involved with it per say, I jsut run the only gate way
Feb 09 23:14:46 <vampireb>	sounds like a scammer heaven to me
Feb 09 23:14:48 <Chaang-Noi>	what is the over all pint of goal of ripple?
Feb 09 23:14:52 <Chaang-Noi>	point+
Feb 09 23:14:55 <Ukto>	and making a desktop wallet program for it
Feb 09 23:15:02 <vampireb>	i guess easy conversion between currencies
Feb 09 23:15:04 <Ukto>	de-centralised backed fiat
Feb 09 23:15:11 <Ukto>	in my opinion
Feb 09 23:15:19 <vampireb>	but bitcoin does the same, i can convert to any fiat
Feb 09 23:15:24 <Chaang-Noi>	how is it decentralized if you have the only gateway?
Feb 09 23:15:25 <Ukto>	covert yes
Feb 09 23:15:29 <Ukto>	bit this is actual currency
Feb 09 23:15:32 <Ukto>	no conversion
Feb 09 23:15:33 <Ukto>	but
Feb 09 23:15:36 <vampireb>	if i go to russia, i just send BTC to qukppay machines
Feb 09 23:15:38 <maximian>	I'd like to try it, but the Ripple wallet tells me I need ripples (XRP), and it's not clear how to get those.
Feb 09 23:15:45 <Ukto>	your misunderstanding
Feb 09 23:15:53 <Ukto>	Ripple is NOT ment to replace btc
Feb 09 23:15:59 <Ukto>	ripple is VERY btc friendly
Feb 09 23:16:12 *	BitHub tweaks his ripple
Feb 09 23:16:17 *	Ukto ripples BitHub
Feb 09 23:16:17 <Chaang-Noi>	i do not understand what ripple does :/
Feb 09 23:16:28 <vampireb>	how ripple covers exchange rate
Feb 09 23:16:28 <Ukto>	it allows you to store your fiats
Feb 09 23:16:32 <pigeons>	it lets you pay people or get paid
Feb 09 23:16:37 <Ukto>	lemme rephrase that
Feb 09 23:16:37 <BitHub>	fiat is such a sexy word
Feb 09 23:16:39 <Ukto>	it lets you store ANYTHING
Feb 09 23:16:43 <Ukto>	decentralised
Feb 09 23:16:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 55 @ 0.719 = 39.545 BTC [+]
Feb 09 23:16:57 <BitHub>	hehe ripples
Feb 09 23:17:00 <Ukto>	BitHub: your thinking of overpriced cars again
Feb 09 23:17:02 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 09 23:17:08 <Chaang-Noi>	btc let me get paid or pay others
Feb 09 23:17:22 <BitHub>	think i will name my kid fiat
Feb 09 23:17:25 <BitHub>	yo fiiiiiiiiat
Feb 09 23:17:28 <vampireb>	ok so I got $20 in IOU from ripple, how do I convert to the actual $20 bill
Feb 09 23:17:30 <pigeons>	yes but only in btc, ripple lets you get paid in silver, hours, seashells, or euros
Feb 09 23:17:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 33 @ 0.721 = 23.793 BTC [+]
Feb 09 23:17:58 <pigeons>	vampireb: you send it to someone who will accept it and give you a note
Feb 09 23:18:00 <Ukto>	and POOP
Feb 09 23:18:03 <Ukto>	you can pay ppl in POOP
Feb 09 23:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto you're totally insane if you're dicking around with destops for ripple instead of plugging bf in here.
Feb 09 23:18:13 <Ukto>	>,>
Feb 09 23:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	coders dude. give them a challenge, they'll be happy
Feb 09 23:18:32 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: lol, nah, the desktop codes on the side burner
Feb 09 23:18:44 *	Ukto is focusd 100% on a new major feature for BF
Feb 09 23:18:52 <BitHub>	:D
Feb 09 23:18:53 <vampireb>	so that someone may charge me interest... Hey you give me $20 in IOU, and I give $10 in physical bills...
Feb 09 23:19:03 <vampireb>	hmm
Feb 09 23:19:04 *	BitHub feeds Ukto slow
Feb 09 23:19:10 <BitHub>	stay focus
Feb 09 23:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons how do i collect a seashell ?
Feb 09 23:19:21 <Chaang-Noi>	what is BF?
Feb 09 23:19:27 <pigeons>	vampireb: interest is in the spec, and the original ripplepay implementation, but not implemented yet in opencoin/payward ripple.com system
Feb 09 23:19:29 <Ukto>	https://bitfunder.com
Feb 09 23:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi bitfunder.com
Feb 09 23:19:33 <Ukto>	you know of it
Feb 09 23:19:35 <Ukto>	you saw it long ago
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Feb 09 23:19:44 <Ukto>	in alpha
Feb 09 23:19:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, you just never told me the name:)
Feb 09 23:19:52 <vampireb>	so what's the difference...
Feb 09 23:20:03 <Ukto>	apples and oranges
Feb 09 23:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00632265 = 2.5291 BTC [-]
Feb 09 23:20:04 <vampireb>	I sent 10BTC to a guy in NY, and I get $200 from him
Feb 09 23:20:10 <vampireb>	or I do the same in Russia
Feb 09 23:20:13 <vampireb>	same stuff.
Feb 09 23:20:14 *	BitHub is looking forward to this secret super new feature
Feb 09 23:20:26 <Chaang-Noi>	is BF working out well Ukto? i have not been folowing that stuff much lately.
Feb 09 23:20:41 <Ukto>	Chaang-Noi: user support says yes. :)
Feb 09 23:20:42 <Chaang-Noi>	it looked cool when you let me see it ages ago.
Feb 09 23:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	it's all blue and shit.
Feb 09 23:21:06 <Ukto>	Its gotten 1,000x better since you last saw it
Feb 09 23:21:12 <Chaang-Noi>	oh cool
Feb 09 23:21:15 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: I thoguth about putting a unicorn easter egg somewhere, just fo ryou
Feb 09 23:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 09 23:21:27 <Ukto>	a nice BLUE one
Feb 09 23:21:29 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 09 23:21:37 <Chaang-Noi>	ill have to check it out, i hope btc goes back down, i need to buy somre more...
Feb 09 23:21:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 53 @ 0.721 = 38.213 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 23:21:53 <Ukto>	Chaang-Noi: not for at least 3~5 weeks
Feb 09 23:22:10 <Ukto>	we will see $30 within 30~45 days
Feb 09 23:22:13 <BitHub>	update the news section Ukto :P give me a lil present to read :)
Feb 09 23:22:17 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto we might see 100
Feb 09 23:22:26 <Ukto>	i see 100's all the time
Feb 09 23:22:27 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 09 23:22:42 *	Ukto mails mircea_popescu a jar of now-defunct canadian pennies
Feb 09 23:22:58 <Chaang-Noi>	ukto i think you might be right, no one is selling! once it hits 30ish you see it crashing a bit?
Feb 09 23:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	"Please stop being a jerk, EskimoBob." evoorhees is so cute i swear
Feb 09 23:23:12 <Ukto>	depends on the news burst that goes with it
Feb 09 23:23:23 <Ukto>	right now a lot of "
Feb 09 23:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine the reason eskimoblob is a jerk is because nobody asked him to stop befoar.
Feb 09 23:23:28 <Ukto>	normals" are investing into btc
Feb 09 23:23:41 <Ukto>	when it hits 30, if there is not a huge news buzz of crazyness
Feb 09 23:23:51 <Ukto>	it will slump back to $25
Feb 09 23:23:55 <Ukto>	or $22
Feb 09 23:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i won't sell, for instance. i don;t care what it is tbh.
Feb 09 23:24:02 <Ukto>	same
Feb 09 23:24:04 <Ukto>	I dont trade
Feb 09 23:24:07 <Ukto>	I use btc for btc
Feb 09 23:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	it all depends how many people hold how much btc this way
Feb 09 23:24:11 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm... anyone want gold or silver for btc? :)
Feb 09 23:24:20 <vampireb>	bitcoin shouldnt be 22.. now... now like i complain..
Feb 09 23:24:26 <vampireb>	not*
Feb 09 23:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb why not ?
Feb 09 23:24:33 <Ukto>	but.. when it hits $30, if there IS a big news deal, and it goes further viral
Feb 09 23:24:42 <Ukto>	you can expect a major price jump to $35~$40 very quickly
Feb 09 23:24:42 <BitHub>	where chaang?
Feb 09 23:24:53 <BitHub>	jesus ukto
Feb 09 23:24:56 <Chaang-Noi>	the gold and silver is in the usa
Feb 09 23:24:58 <vampireb>	i dont know, it rose too quickly. i prefer stable rates.. then the rate that change every day by like 10%
Feb 09 23:25:00 *	BitHub gets his funds ready to buy up tomorrow
Feb 09 23:25:12 <Ukto>	I have been contacted by a number of 'normal' investors
Feb 09 23:25:18 <Ukto>	seeking help with using btc, and other things
Feb 09 23:25:18 <vampireb>	i cant type. :/
Feb 09 23:25:22 <Ukto>	through various channels
Feb 09 23:25:41 <BitHub>	do they have ballz deep pockets?
Feb 09 23:25:44 <Ukto>	bitcoin is becoming a buzz
Feb 09 23:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb i see your point re stable rates.
Feb 09 23:25:55 <mircea_popescu>	however, there's a great advantage to mlt cap over 1bn
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Feb 09 23:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	and since by now stability is fucked anyway
Feb 09 23:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	might as well get the bn
Feb 09 23:26:12 <Ukto>	We had stability.
Feb 09 23:26:15 <vampireb>	if i sell something that i bought for USD.. i dont need to recalc the price 10x time a day.. I wouldnt do that for EUR
Feb 09 23:26:19 <Ukto>	It drove in a new demand
Feb 09 23:26:25 <Ukto>	now its going nuts due to the huge demand
Feb 09 23:26:35 <Ukto>	All exchanges are currently getting a flood of incoming cash
Feb 09 23:26:40 <BitHub>	best to buy up while its 25
Feb 09 23:26:42 <vampireb>	i sold just a PI for 3BTC, that's over $70 now
Feb 09 23:26:42 <Ukto>	This is fact, not fiction
Feb 09 23:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i know.
Feb 09 23:27:06 <vampireb>	rasberry pi
Feb 09 23:27:16 <vampireb>	hard to set prices which such swings
Feb 09 23:27:44 <Ukto>	In fact, after some dsicussions, I venture to say that the last 30 days, has been the largest influx of new cash into exchanges in such a short period ever for bitcoin
Feb 09 23:28:10 <BitHub>	yeah, i can see that
Feb 09 23:28:18 <Bugpowder>	Duh
Feb 09 23:28:20 <BitHub>	it has been doing really well this year so far
Feb 09 23:28:27 <Ukto>	We are riding on a tsunami atm, thats jsut getting bigger until it crashes into something. but in the end, it will still leave higher water levels than the start.
Feb 09 23:28:48 <Bugpowder>	I am going to have a lot of
Feb 09 23:28:55 <vampireb>	well people know more and more about bitcoin.. few of my coworkers knew about.. that suprised me a lot
Feb 09 23:28:56 <Bugpowder>	Coins after the crash
Feb 09 23:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder eheheeh
Feb 09 23:29:24 <Ukto>	coingenuity ran into a bartender girl at a bar randomly, who knew of them
Feb 09 23:29:40 <Ukto>	I coudl have written that better. oh well
Feb 09 23:29:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00062002 = 8.1223 BTC [-]
Feb 09 23:29:47 <vampireb>	is it that becuase of silkroad ? :_)
Feb 09 23:29:47 <coingenuity>	Ukto: was a coffee-girl, but yeah
Feb 09 23:29:53 <Ukto>	fine
Feb 09 23:29:55 <Ukto>	COFFEE
Feb 09 23:30:00 <coingenuity>	heh, point still stands
Feb 09 23:30:04 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity i was thinking oh, the man drinks ?
Feb 09 23:30:05 <Bugpowder>	Fuckin take all of mpbor in well
Feb 09 23:30:05 <vampireb>	like a coffeehouse in amsterdam?
Feb 09 23:30:08 <Bugpowder>	Timed puts
Feb 09 23:30:10 <coingenuity>	not an ugly girl, as well
Feb 09 23:30:13 <Ukto>	only Nyquil
Feb 09 23:30:17 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 09 23:30:32 <coingenuity>	Ukto: speaks the truth, im not a substance-liker
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Feb 09 23:31:10 <coingenuity>	btw
Feb 09 23:31:17 <coingenuity>	to that end, when i was at defcon, i had a standing bet
Feb 09 23:31:28 <coingenuity>	that the vast majority of strangers i asked would know what bitcoin was
Feb 09 23:31:35 <coingenuity>	to make it interesting, i basically only asked women if i could
Feb 09 23:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	did you win ?
Feb 09 23:31:48 <coingenuity>	and only 1 out of ALL the genders i asked didn't know what bitcoin was
Feb 09 23:31:55 <coingenuity>	around 10 people, mostly women
Feb 09 23:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Feb 09 23:32:11 <pigeons>	they were my hos
Feb 09 23:32:17 <mod6>	haha
Feb 09 23:32:18 <coingenuity>	pigeons: lol
Feb 09 23:32:23 <Ukto>	also, the CEO of the ripple foundation is Chris Larsen, former chaiman, CEO and co-founder of prosper.com
Feb 09 23:32:37 <Ukto>	He has made a lot of big connections for Ripple
Feb 09 23:33:21 <mircea_popescu>	amazon coin has a lot of big connections too.
Feb 09 23:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	i still don't know why i'd use it. why'd i use it ?
Feb 09 23:33:38 <kakobreklaa>	my bitcoind has 8 connections.
Feb 09 23:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00062002 = 6.6652 BTC [-]
Feb 09 23:35:13 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: *shrug* thats for you to figure out.
Feb 09 23:35:15 <Ukto>	:)
Feb 09 23:35:17 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: amazon coin cracks me up
Feb 09 23:35:18 <Ukto>	I am jsut a gateway
Feb 09 23:35:22 <Ukto>	ask the ripple guys in #ripple
Feb 09 23:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity such a fine example of design by commitee
Feb 09 23:35:35 <Ukto>	lots of people wanted to cash into it
Feb 09 23:35:37 <Ukto>	I said okay
Feb 09 23:35:38 <Ukto>	and filled a gap
Feb 09 23:35:41 <Ukto>	end of story
Feb 09 23:35:41 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 09 23:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto not like it's a crime. im just questing for knowledge
Feb 09 23:36:05 <Ukto>	honestly, I think they want it to replace payment services
Feb 09 23:36:26 <mircea_popescu>	without a blockchain ?
Feb 09 23:36:29 <Ukto>	yes
Feb 09 23:36:32 <pigeons>	it has a blockchain
Feb 09 23:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	hurr.
Feb 09 23:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	wait, what ?
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Feb 09 23:36:38 <Ukto>	no blockchain
Feb 09 23:36:38 <vampireb>	i dont think ripple is much more different than a bitcoin, and that's just fragmenting the market..
Feb 09 23:36:44 <Ukto>	near instant transfers
Feb 09 23:36:44 <vampireb>	they have a ledger
Feb 09 23:36:48 <Ukto>	yes
Feb 09 23:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	dude they can't even agree if it has a chain ;/
Feb 09 23:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	i've had enough of this for now, my brain is rippling.
Feb 09 23:37:24 <vampireb>	i agree, the website is so confusing.
Feb 09 23:37:28 <Ukto>	very confusing
Feb 09 23:37:29 <Ukto>	I agree
Feb 09 23:37:33 <Ukto>	I have told them to change it
Feb 09 23:37:38 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: lol
Feb 09 23:38:01 <Ukto>	Since I have the server source, etc, I have a very deep understanding of exactly how it works
Feb 09 23:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	you don't have the source ?
Feb 09 23:38:23 <mircea_popescu>	did you code your server to api spec or what
Feb 09 23:38:27 <Ukto>	[22:38] <Ukto> Since I have the server source
Feb 09 23:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	a a sorry.
Feb 09 23:38:36 <Ukto>	:)
Feb 09 23:38:42 <Ukto>	Its not public atm
Feb 09 23:38:48 <Ukto>	and very few people 'understand' it
Feb 09 23:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	ok so. it does payments. how does it resolve the dblspend problem ? blockchain ?
Feb 09 23:39:07 <Ukto>	no blockchain
Feb 09 23:39:10 <pigeons>	https://ripple.com/wiki/Ledger_Format
Feb 09 23:39:10 <Ukto>	ituses ledgers
Feb 09 23:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	but ?
Feb 09 23:39:15 <Ukto>	and concensus
Feb 09 23:39:23 <pigeons>	hash table ledger, similar idea
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Feb 09 23:39:31 <Ukto>	except your not chaining anything
Feb 09 23:39:41 <Ukto>	and theres no mining
Feb 09 23:39:56 <maximian>	so it uses consensus instead of proof-of-work to secure the ledger
Feb 09 23:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	so if you don't chain them how do you get a history ?
Feb 09 23:40:03 <pigeons>	you do chain them
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Feb 09 23:40:06 <Ukto>	maximian: correct
Feb 09 23:40:17 <Ukto>	pigeons: to some extent
Feb 09 23:40:22 <Ukto>	however its not the same style
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Feb 09 23:40:27 <Ukto>	for example right now
Feb 09 23:40:31 <Ukto>	thre are at least 3 missing ledgers
Feb 09 23:40:37 <Ukto>	a chain cannot have a missing link
Feb 09 23:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	Flags
Feb 09 23:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	Every node has a 32-bit flags field that indicates which universal and node-type-specific flags are present.
Feb 09 23:40:54 <mircea_popescu>	ok, who specced this thing ?
Feb 09 23:41:01 <Ukto>	was not me
Feb 09 23:41:04 <pigeons>	yeah well we'll see how this specific implementation of ripple evolves
Feb 09 23:41:05 <Ukto>	its weird
Feb 09 23:41:09 <Ukto>	also
Feb 09 23:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	so noboduy admits to having specced it i take it ?
Feb 09 23:41:13 <Ukto>	there is division use
Feb 09 23:41:17 <Ukto>	and that annoyed the crap out of me
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Feb 09 23:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00062067 = 2.2965 BTC [+]
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Feb 09 23:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	To store a large directory of indexes, the entries are divided into nodes of a manageable size. Each node knows the relative offset of the previous and next nodes. Empty nodes can be deleted. However, the first node can not be deleted unless there are no other nodes as we use the first node to efficiently find other nodes.
Feb 09 23:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is nonsense.
Feb 09 23:42:31 <maximian>	So is the consensus method proven to be equally secure as proof-of-work, or does it not have to be?
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Feb 09 23:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	if you delete an empty node don't you get a dangling pointer ?
Feb 09 23:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	maximian it's not nearly as secure fwiw.
Feb 09 23:42:54 <pigeons>	maximian: neither is proven
Feb 09 23:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	srsly ? 4 years into it, still not proven ?
Feb 09 23:43:31 <maximian>	I suppose I don't mean proven in the mathematical sense.
Feb 09 23:43:38 <pigeons>	proof of work + supsidy has worked well for a few years so far yes
Feb 09 23:43:54 <Ukto>	anywho
Feb 09 23:43:56 <pigeons>	i wouldnt say proven, and it remains to be seen if proof of work will hold when subsidy is gone
Feb 09 23:43:58 <Ukto>	I am gonna try to code
Feb 09 23:44:00 <Ukto>	so I can get this done
Feb 09 23:44:21 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons what happens to the consensus method if there's a net split for 24 hours which then resolves ?
Feb 09 23:44:28 <Ukto>	ah
Feb 09 23:44:30 <Ukto>	that was one of my peevs
Feb 09 23:44:36 <Ukto>	there is an islanding thing
Feb 09 23:44:43 <mircea_popescu>	i would think there would be yes.
Feb 09 23:44:50 <pigeons>	i am not familair with consensus or this ripple implementation. i am just saying proof of work is far from proven
Feb 09 23:44:53 <Ukto>	as for the plans on that
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Feb 09 23:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	that we agree with.
Feb 09 23:45:05 <Ukto>	there is a minority detection thing
Feb 09 23:45:06 <Ukto>	they have
Feb 09 23:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	im just a fanboi.
Feb 09 23:46:18 <vampireb>	ok. so they have a current ledger, when the system decides to create a new ledger? after xx seconds? xx transactions?
Feb 09 23:46:24 <maximian>	My understanding is that the proof-of-work method of synchronizing nodes is a real breakthrough in distributed computing, and I'm wondering how consensus stacks up against that.
Feb 09 23:47:09 <mircea_popescu>	maximian same here.
Feb 09 23:47:12 <pigeons>	its is less expensive and probable less "secure" but we don't know, that's why we use these things
Feb 09 23:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder why it being less expensive is a good thing.
Feb 09 23:48:07 <mircea_popescu>	isn't a good chunk of btc security derived precisely from the fact that its' so damned expensive to attack ?
Feb 09 23:48:14 <pigeons>	yes
Feb 09 23:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	in some contexts i see less expensive and my brain reads cheap.
Feb 09 23:48:50 <pigeons>	some of that was borrowed with ripple.com with their XRP transaction fees
Feb 09 23:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	i thought that was more akin some sort of demurage implementation
Feb 09 23:49:17 <pigeons>	well there are many different goals and people are willing or able to pay differnt prices for the,
Feb 09 23:49:50 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: it is intended to add expense. they sort of demmurge in the fact that they are permanently destroyed, increasing the value and expense
Feb 09 23:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	well, i guess we see what time brings to it.
Feb 09 23:50:53 <pigeons>	it is quite beta for sure
Feb 09 23:51:16 <maximian>	I've got an open mind about it, and I'd like to try it, buy I can't get any of these XRPs to transact with
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Feb 09 23:51:28 <pigeons>	give me your address and i'll give you some
Feb 09 23:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	maximian do you have a client and everything ?
Feb 09 23:51:52 <maximian>	pigeons: thanks, hold on
Feb 09 23:52:03 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: I just setup a wallet at ripple.com
Feb 09 23:52:16 <maximian>	it's web-based
Feb 09 23:52:32 <maximian>	pigeons: r3B5eqGFAHKTD74sXajnMhmb41FmBtb3Sa
Feb 09 23:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	 Loading...
Feb 09 23:52:43 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it needs js or java or something ?
Feb 09 23:52:49 <maximian>	yep
Feb 09 23:52:51 <maximian>	js for sure
Feb 09 23:52:53 <pigeons>	its a javascript browser plugin that uses websockets to connect to theri server
Feb 09 23:52:56 <pigeons>	javascript
Feb 09 23:53:03 <Chaang-Noi>	what happens all the money in ripple if say the govt shuts down ripple.com or redirects it to some other site?
Feb 09 23:53:20 <pigeons>	you ideally run the client locally
Feb 09 23:53:32 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, i did not know that could be done
Feb 09 23:53:53 <pigeons>	right now it is obviously centralised and vulnerable in those ways
Feb 09 23:54:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i do not unerstand how they got around the double spend issue unless either it is centralized, or they have a block chain
Feb 09 23:54:47 <maximian>	awesome
Feb 09 23:54:50 <maximian>	thanks pigeons
Feb 09 23:54:56 <pigeons>	you got them?
Feb 09 23:55:04 <maximian>	yep, got a green alert
Feb 09 23:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	https://ripple.com/wp-content/themes/ripple-theme/img/logo.png
Feb 09 23:55:08 <maximian>	300 XRP
Feb 09 23:55:14 <BitHub>	anybody ever succesfull able to show their localbitcoins.com add on their own website?
Feb 09 23:57:20 <maximian>	pigeons: I received your trust 0.25 BTC event, how do I reciprocate?
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Feb 09 23:59:07 <Ukto>	currently
Feb 09 23:59:12 <Ukto>	the ONLY client
Feb 09 23:59:17 <Ukto>	is the ripple.com JS
Feb 09 23:59:24 <Ukto>	which is why I started making my client last month
Feb 09 23:59:33 <Ukto>	once I get done with my current project
Feb 09 23:59:38 <Ukto>	and do a couple quick small things
Feb 09 23:59:43 <Ukto>	I will get it ready for alpha release
Feb 09 23:59:51 <Chaang-Noi>	using JS and i can get hacked?
Feb 10 00:00:16 <Chaang-Noi>	i use no script, i guess that is why it is not working for me.
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Feb 10 00:01:41 <Ukto>	I poked someone in ripple to talk in #ripple
Feb 10 00:01:46 <Ukto>	if you wanna go hound them with questions
Feb 10 00:01:47 <Ukto>	;)
Feb 10 00:03:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 278 @ 0.00632265 = 1.7577 BTC [-]
Feb 10 00:03:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 222 @ 0.0063 = 1.3986 BTC [-]
Feb 10 00:05:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i asked a question, thanks ukto
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Feb 10 00:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 248 @ 0.0063 = 1.5624 BTC [-]
Feb 10 00:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00624122 = 2.1844 BTC [-]
Feb 10 00:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1834 @ 0.00620849 = 11.3864 BTC [-]
Feb 10 00:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00615 = 3.075 BTC [-]
Feb 10 00:14:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00062067 = 1.1793 BTC [+]
Feb 10 00:14:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00062654 = 5.7328 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 00:22:51 <Ukto>	:)
Feb 10 00:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00062035 = 5.1179 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 00:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00062033 = 4.4974 BTC [-]
Feb 10 00:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062003 = 0.62 BTC [-]
Feb 10 00:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00062002 = 2.6971 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 00:52:31 <Chilca>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 10 00:52:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.006 / 0.00620296 / 0.0064 (1112576 shares, 6,901.27 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00581628 / 0.007395 (4582941 shares, 26,655.69 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00551467 / 0.0075 (8780276 shares, 48,420.39 BTC)
Feb 10 00:54:36 <BitHub>	hey, did you guys buy any asicminer shares?
Feb 10 00:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11976 @ 0.00062654 = 7.5034 BTC [+]
Feb 10 00:54:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10374 @ 0.00063183 = 6.5546 BTC [+]
Feb 10 00:54:51 <BitHub>	what are you suppose to do with them? just hang onto to them?
Feb 10 00:55:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9876 @ 0.00063183 = 6.24 BTC [+]
Feb 10 00:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00062002 = 10.2923 BTC [-]
Feb 10 00:57:56 <Ukto>	mircea left?
Feb 10 00:57:57 <Ukto>	aw
Feb 10 00:58:15 <Ukto>	BitHub: https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.SDICE
Feb 10 00:58:21 <Ukto>	lots of big trades in the last few hours today
Feb 10 00:58:55 <Ukto>	BF is almost to 300btc 24hr vol again
Feb 10 00:59:31 <BitHub>	total?
Feb 10 00:59:36 <BitHub>	or just dice
Feb 10 01:00:07 <BitHub>	nice volume
Feb 10 01:00:10 <BitHub>	over 1k
Feb 10 01:00:18 <Ukto>	mostly dice
Feb 10 01:00:22 <Ukto>	a few are 3~7btc daily
Feb 10 01:00:33 <Ukto>	there are not that many big assets out there
Feb 10 01:00:37 <Ukto>	mining assets are horrid idea right now
Feb 10 01:00:44 <Ukto>	and I turn away most all crap assets
Feb 10 01:00:47 <Ukto>	1~2 a day
Feb 10 01:00:48 <BitHub>	hmmmm
Feb 10 01:01:03 <Ukto>	I have gotten rid of some crazy ponzi's tooo
Feb 10 01:01:05 <BitHub>	i took a chance on bakewell
Feb 10 01:01:18 <BitHub>	and some on jah
Feb 10 01:01:19 <Ukto>	Ian's an alright guy
Feb 10 01:01:40 <BitHub>	yeah i did a check of bakewell, seems pretty decent
Feb 10 01:01:49 <Ukto>	Rasta was my fav. mining asset long ago
Feb 10 01:02:01 <Ukto>	he used to pay divs every night at midnight, even tho it wasnt required
Feb 10 01:02:02 <Ukto>	for months
Feb 10 01:02:13 <Ukto>	although I am not sure about his ASIC plans atm
Feb 10 01:02:18 <BitHub>	he still paying div's tho :) i got one last night
Feb 10 01:02:48 <BitHub>	ukto i got some asicminer shares from friedcat fellow, do you know what i'm suppose to do with them?
Feb 10 01:02:49 <Ukto>	oh, he did switch back to near nightly
Feb 10 01:02:57 <Ukto>	pm
Feb 10 01:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00062002 = 5.7972 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 01:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062362 = 4.4901 BTC [+]
Feb 10 01:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00062051 = 8.1287 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 01:54:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8221 @ 0.0006326 = 5.2006 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 02:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9069 @ 0.00062002 = 5.623 BTC [-]
Feb 10 02:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00062039 = 3.6293 BTC [+]
Feb 10 02:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00063188 = 3.0513 BTC [+]
Feb 10 02:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.0006331 = 8.4202 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 03:34:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00063891 = 4.696 BTC [-]
Feb 10 03:43:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.0007 = 0.0014 BTC
Feb 10 03:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00063891 = 7.635 BTC [-]
Feb 10 03:50:44 <Bowjob>	I can't load S.Dice for some reason
Feb 10 03:51:05 <Bowjob>	The bets don't show up
Feb 10 03:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11093 @ 0.00064048 = 7.1048 BTC [+]
Feb 10 03:51:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6257 @ 0.00064096 = 4.0105 BTC [+]
Feb 10 04:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00064052 = 8.9673 BTC [-]
Feb 10 04:07:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7031 @ 0.00063891 = 4.4922 BTC [-]
Feb 10 04:19:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3669 @ 0.00063891 = 2.3442 BTC [-]
Feb 10 04:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00062757 = 7.8446 BTC [-]
Feb 10 04:19:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8691 @ 0.00062664 = 5.4461 BTC [-]
Feb 10 04:21:57 <leotreasure>	yep sd shows 0 for all bets
Feb 10 04:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13307 @ 0.00063329 = 8.4272 BTC [+]
Feb 10 04:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5593 @ 0.00064096 = 3.5849 BTC [+]
Feb 10 04:27:26 <error4733>	-558 for the last 1000 bet (4-500)
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Feb 10 04:29:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.0007 BTC
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Feb 10 04:51:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.721 BTC [+]
Feb 10 04:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00062667 = 3.9794 BTC [-]
Feb 10 04:54:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 05:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 10 05:06:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.49002, Best ask: 23.50998, Bid-ask spread: 0.01996, Last trade: 23.51000, 24 hour volume: 49657.03583015, 24 hour low: 22.58468, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.39455
Feb 10 05:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6559 @ 0.00062664 = 4.1101 BTC [-]
Feb 10 05:08:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1041 @ 0.00062473 = 0.6503 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 05:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7957 @ 0.00062667 = 4.9864 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 05:22:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2659 @ 0.00062473 = 1.6612 BTC [-]
Feb 10 05:22:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2608 @ 0.00062032 = 1.6178 BTC [-]
Feb 10 05:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8533 @ 0.0006203 = 5.293 BTC [-]
Feb 10 05:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/02/electronics-border-seizures/
Feb 10 05:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	shit's pretty funny. if you buy an ipad it's not your ipad
Feb 10 05:27:53 <mircea_popescu>	sez obama.
Feb 10 05:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12699 @ 0.00062667 = 7.9581 BTC [+]
Feb 10 05:43:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21384 @ 0.00063407 = 13.559 BTC [+]
Feb 10 05:43:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00062699 = 8.7152 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 05:43:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20967 @ 0.0006203 = 13.0058 BTC [-]
Feb 10 05:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5904 @ 0.00062003 = 3.6607 BTC [-]
Feb 10 05:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14145 @ 0.00062002 = 8.7702 BTC [-]
Feb 10 05:49:09 <Schadenfreude>	One of many reasons why evorhees should move out of the US asap
Feb 10 05:49:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062002 = 7.2542 BTC [-]
Feb 10 05:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	i think he prolly will.
Feb 10 05:51:40 <error4733>	already done before the IPO if he was smart
Feb 10 05:51:49 <Schadenfreude>	That's my main worry if it comes to s.dice, think a Kim Dotcomesque scenario
Feb 10 05:52:05 <error4733>	no way
Feb 10 05:52:24 <Schadenfreude>	yah wai
Feb 10 05:52:24 <error4733>	all the players need it's the 12 addres
Feb 10 05:52:59 <Schadenfreude>	Doesn't it need maintenance?
Feb 10 05:53:07 <error4733>	ok explain for me please how the fed or other can take down S.dice
Feb 10 05:53:20 <error4733>	one main page in irlande
Feb 10 05:53:32 <error4733>	the script somewhere in the world
Feb 10 05:53:44 <error4733>	with 5 backup
Feb 10 05:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude it needs some maintenance, obviously, but i don't think erik is involved in that himself
Feb 10 05:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 yes it's very censorship resistant.
Feb 10 05:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	it got to ipo on mpex cause it's about as strong as mpex after all.
Feb 10 05:54:31 <Schadenfreude>	Well, obviously I was more worried as shareholder - no dividends, price tanking etc.
Feb 10 05:54:47 <error4733>	i'm in the same boat
Feb 10 05:55:04 <error4733>	but i think for all those detail before bought my share
Feb 10 05:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	and some govt going bonkers is a legitimate concern
Feb 10 05:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	but still i guess the damage could be well limited.
Feb 10 05:56:47 <error4733>	even if eric hold all the 90%, just no way to prove it
Feb 10 05:56:58 <error4733>	88% sorry
Feb 10 05:59:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.0007 BTC
Feb 10 05:59:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Feb 10 05:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062002 = 1.5501 BTC [-]
Feb 10 06:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	prove what you mean ?
Feb 10 06:05:56 <error4733>	if fed knok the eric door
Feb 10 06:06:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00062002 = 6.8512 BTC [-]
Feb 10 06:06:25 <error4733>	Knock*
Feb 10 06:07:06 <mircea_popescu>	well, the only way to prove it is if i say so, or else if they find a cleartext stat.
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Feb 10 06:12:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062074 = 3.0416 BTC [+]
Feb 10 06:13:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0062 = 0.0496 BTC [+]
Feb 10 06:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00062013 = 10.6662 BTC [-]
Feb 10 06:14:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00062002 = 1.054 BTC [-]
Feb 10 06:17:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16072 @ 0.00062002 = 9.965 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 06:22:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00062002 = 24.7388 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 06:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.google.com/search?q=mpex&complete=0
Feb 10 06:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	ahh, finally ahead of the wiki
Feb 10 06:33:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 40 @ 0.0429 = 1.716 BTC [-]
Feb 10 06:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6 @ 0.00606903 = 0.0364 BTC [-]
Feb 10 06:40:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6436 @ 0.00062074 = 3.9951 BTC [+]
Feb 10 06:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3312 @ 0.00062314 = 2.0638 BTC [+]
Feb 10 06:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00606903 = 4.8552 BTC [-]
Feb 10 06:50:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.0007 BTC
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Feb 10 06:56:18 <usagi>	hai\
Feb 10 06:56:27 <usagi>	hai G
Feb 10 06:56:29 <usagi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133556.msg1516365#msg1516365
Feb 10 06:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0006312 = 2.5248 BTC [+]
Feb 10 06:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33959 @ 0.00063121 = 21.4353 BTC [+]
Feb 10 06:58:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8852 @ 0.00062314 = 5.516 BTC [-]
Feb 10 06:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3848 @ 0.00062002 = 2.3858 BTC [-]
Feb 10 07:00:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12364 @ 0.00062002 = 7.6659 BTC [-]
Feb 10 07:02:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062002 = 3.7201 BTC [-]
Feb 10 07:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8906 @ 0.00063121 = 5.6216 BTC [+]
Feb 10 07:04:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2444 @ 0.00063126 = 1.5428 BTC [+]
Feb 10 07:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00062002 = 1.457 BTC [-]
Feb 10 07:18:41 <Bowjob>	weekend dip
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Feb 10 07:20:46 <error4733>	haha usagi nice catch
Feb 10 07:20:49 <Bowjob>	the dip is hapening!
Feb 10 07:20:54 <Bowjob>	20.80
Feb 10 07:20:58 <Bowjob>	22.80 i mean
Feb 10 07:21:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 10 07:21:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.79881, Best ask: 22.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08119, Last trade: 22.79881, 24 hour volume: 45295.99889934, 24 hour low: 22.75100, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.42737
Feb 10 07:21:27 <mircea_popescu>	o lala
Feb 10 07:21:51 <Bowjob>	well, we were moving too fast anyways
Feb 10 07:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7197 @ 0.00062184 = 4.4754 BTC [+]
Feb 10 07:23:21 <Bowjob>	What ever happened to pump and don't dump?
Feb 10 07:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 10 07:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	volume isn't particularly high
Feb 10 07:24:32 <mircea_popescu>	this is a supply side hickup
Feb 10 07:24:52 <Bowjob>	hey im not panicking lol
Feb 10 07:25:15 <Bowjob>	theres this dude who called in 23.20 as the high of 2013
Feb 10 07:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Feb 10 07:25:19 <gribble>	Time since last block: 6 minutes and 19 seconds
Feb 10 07:25:23 <Bowjob>	he can go suck a dick
Feb 10 07:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	he may well be right.
Feb 10 07:26:18 <Bowjob>	its the same dude who asked for a 1200 BTC loan
Feb 10 07:27:12 <Bowjob>	to "get back on his feet"
Feb 10 07:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Feb 10 07:27:53 <Bowjob>	since he's always wrong well, i bet hes wrong again
Feb 10 07:28:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 10 07:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	seems unlikely it stays under this week's max
Feb 10 07:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	after all year barely began
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Feb 10 07:32:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00062184 = 5.2856 BTC [+]
Feb 10 07:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Feb 10 07:32:40 <gribble>	Time since last block: 8 minutes and 33 seconds
Feb 10 07:36:58 <Bowjob>	yawn
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Feb 10 07:39:18 <Bowjob>	ieh
Feb 10 07:39:24 <Bowjob>	we're back
Feb 10 07:39:26 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 10 07:39:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.12580, Best ask: 23.29899, Bid-ask spread: 0.17319, Last trade: 23.29900, 24 hour volume: 49226.55134271, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.37203
Feb 10 07:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5703 @ 0.00062184 = 3.5464 BTC [+]
Feb 10 07:47:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9297 @ 0.00062346 = 5.7963 BTC [+]
Feb 10 07:49:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5353 @ 0.00062346 = 3.3374 BTC [+]
Feb 10 07:49:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10347 @ 0.00062349 = 6.4513 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 07:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8546 @ 0.00062122 = 5.3089 BTC [-]
Feb 10 07:57:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Feb 10 07:57:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00062122 = 10.5607 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 08:02:24 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, what have you done: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21401111
Feb 10 08:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5454 @ 0.00062122 = 3.3881 BTC [-]
Feb 10 08:02:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00062098 = 1.7698 BTC [-]
Feb 10 08:02:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1896 @ 0.00062002 = 1.1756 BTC [-]
Feb 10 08:03:08 <Bowjob>	sat dice still doesnt work for me
Feb 10 08:03:13 <Bowjob>	I cant see the bets
Feb 10 08:03:43 <ThickAsThieves>	same prob for me last nite, the dymanic content is coming thru very slowly
Feb 10 08:04:03 <ThickAsThieves>	if you wait a while the betting table appears
Feb 10 08:04:12 <ThickAsThieves>	but not the totals
Feb 10 08:04:21 <Bowjob>	i see it
Feb 10 08:04:38 <Bowjob>	i see it now, i dont see the recent bets though
Feb 10 08:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves wasn't me dood
Feb 10 08:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	was the other guy
Feb 10 08:07:01 <Bowjob>	horsemeat.. i know canada produces horsemeat and ships it to japan
Feb 10 08:07:07 <Bowjob>	ive nver tried though
Feb 10 08:09:17 <Bowjob>	so, mp you got some entrants for your SA trolling contest?
Feb 10 08:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	like a dozen by now
Feb 10 08:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	and horsemeat is great, i have a bit of salami in my fridge right now.
Feb 10 08:10:24 <Bowjob>	mm
Feb 10 08:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.0006228 = 6.1969 BTC [+]
Feb 10 08:11:16 <Bowjob>	ive had dove, snake, aborted duck fetus, dog, and who knows what
Feb 10 08:11:36 <Bowjob>	all are fucking delicious. cept dog.. it was meh
Feb 10 08:13:01 <mircea_popescu>	i never had dog
Feb 10 08:13:04 <Bowjob>	oh, ive had one of those turtles as well'
Feb 10 08:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	or snake or bs chinese stuff
Feb 10 08:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	turtle soup ?
Feb 10 08:13:18 <Bowjob>	yeap
Feb 10 08:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	yeah thats nice
Feb 10 08:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00606903 = 2.3609 BTC [-]
Feb 10 08:23:57 <error4733>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516423#msg1516423
Feb 10 08:24:09 <error4733>	#popcorn
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Feb 10 08:29:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.0006228 = 0.9965 BTC [+]
Feb 10 08:29:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6296 @ 0.00062349 = 3.9255 BTC [+]
Feb 10 08:29:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00062723 = 2.8225 BTC [+]
Feb 10 08:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5865 @ 0.00063126 = 3.7023 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 08:32:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 31 @ 0.01 = 0.31 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 08:38:53 <EskimoBob>	error4733: do you like some #fakebutter or #salt on your #popcorn
Feb 10 08:42:59 <error4733>	brown sugar please why ?
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Feb 10 08:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6241 @ 0.00063126 = 3.9397 BTC [+]
Feb 10 08:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4698 @ 0.00063799 = 2.9973 BTC [+]
Feb 10 08:44:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4261 @ 0.00063812 = 2.719 BTC [+]
Feb 10 08:49:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00062987 = 6.6136 BTC [-]
Feb 10 08:49:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35100 @ 0.00062002 = 21.7627 BTC [-]
Feb 10 08:52:23 <Anduck>	i thought EskimoBob liked mp
Feb 10 08:56:11 <Bowjob>	I'm buying 10,000 pizzas with 2 BTC. hit me up,
Feb 10 08:56:56 <Bowjob>	actually it might be a good PR for bitcoin. donate the pizzas to people everywhere
Feb 10 08:58:14 <Bowjob>	may 22 would be a good date, the day laszlo got his pizza
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Feb 10 09:07:02 <EskimoBob>	Anduck: why? mircea_popescu is a low life scumbag and a clown
Feb 10 09:09:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is actually a good idea
Feb 10 09:10:03 <mircea_popescu>	have an international day of bitcoin pizza
Feb 10 09:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	just go out give some dood a pizza, put on youtube
Feb 10 09:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00063812 = 7.9127 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 09:16:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.081 = 0.243 BTC [+]
Feb 10 09:16:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.0926 = 0.2778 BTC [+]
Feb 10 09:16:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0928 BTC [+]
Feb 10 09:16:58 <EskimoBob>	now, if btct.co adds clean 'last' price data to JSON...
Feb 10 09:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5989 @ 0.00063812 = 3.8217 BTC [+]
Feb 10 09:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4111 @ 0.00063816 = 2.6235 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 09:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00063816 = 9.381 BTC [+]
Feb 10 09:33:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0249 = 0.249 BTC [+]
Feb 10 09:34:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0249 = 0.1245 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 09:41:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8232 @ 0.00063387 = 5.218 BTC [-]
Feb 10 09:44:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00063816 = 2.3293 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 09:48:56 <Anduck>	selling 50 ASICMINER shares at 0.44 BTC each
Feb 10 09:49:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3739 @ 0.00063816 = 2.3861 BTC [+]
Feb 10 09:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3315 @ 0.00063924 = 2.1191 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 09:53:09 <jurov>	EskimoBob: if you know how to do things properly, go do it. make your own exchange
Feb 10 09:53:27 <jurov>	otherwise i don't know what you hope to achieve
Feb 10 09:54:14 <Bowjob>	he's a troll
Feb 10 09:55:37 <jurov>	i'm always interested in one's original intention. troll or not.
Feb 10 09:55:56 <jurov>	and EskimoBob is so far complete mystery
Feb 10 09:57:03 <jurov>	"just a hater" classification won't satisfy me
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Feb 10 09:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	what now ?
Feb 10 09:58:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6309 @ 0.00063924 = 4.033 BTC [+]
Feb 10 09:59:28 <usagi>	writing an exchange would be an interesting technical challenge
Feb 10 09:59:34 <usagi>	if you did it properly
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Feb 10 10:00:33 <jurov>	not needed, there are already a dozen exchanges. i'm sure someone would welcome his expert consulting services
Feb 10 10:00:47 <usagi>	No exchange in existance today is done very well
Feb 10 10:01:18 <usagi>	The exchanges now are like ships passing in the night
Feb 10 10:03:16 <jurov>	then do better. or at least write blog about it.
Feb 10 10:03:47 <usagi>	I need 3,000 BTC.
Feb 10 10:03:51 <jurov>	i think it isn't by chance that some do blog about their business and others do not.
Feb 10 10:04:04 <jurov>	loooooooooooooooool
Feb 10 10:04:57 <usagi>	Well, I have the skills, how much do you think doing it right is worth :)
Feb 10 10:06:21 <jurov>	there were some computations of mpex mkt cap around...and if you think you can do it better, then it would be worth much more, ofc
Feb 10 10:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00064055 = 9.5442 BTC [+]
Feb 10 10:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00064096 = 1.8267 BTC [+]
Feb 10 10:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00064168 = 0.1283 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 10:12:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12827 @ 0.00063972 = 8.2057 BTC [-]
Feb 10 10:12:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1568 @ 0.00063568 = 0.9967 BTC [-]
Feb 10 10:12:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9655 @ 0.0006313 = 6.0952 BTC [-]
Feb 10 10:15:27 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, are you TradeFortress on bittalk?
Feb 10 10:16:04 <Bowjob>	why do you ask that?
Feb 10 10:16:14 <Bowjob>	almost surely, he isnt tradefortress
Feb 10 10:17:25 <ThickAsThieves>	well i havent followed TF or anything, just saw some posts that were in line with mp comments here
Feb 10 10:17:38 <ThickAsThieves>	and appearing in places where MPOE-PR comments
Feb 10 10:18:03 <ThickAsThieves>	and never saw a user with mp's name on bittalk, so figured TF might be him
Feb 10 10:18:18 <ThickAsThieves>	nothing scandalous, just wondering
Feb 10 10:19:18 <Bowjob>	TradeFortress shows up here sometimes with MP simultaneously
Feb 10 10:20:12 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Feb 10 10:20:20 <ThickAsThieves>	still not impossible
Feb 10 10:20:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00064168 = 1.3796 BTC [+]
Feb 10 10:20:27 <ThickAsThieves>	but no biggie
Feb 10 10:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 961 @ 0.00620896 = 5.9668 BTC [+]
Feb 10 10:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves nope ?
Feb 10 10:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	i don't have a btctalk acct art all, mpoe-pr does the foruming for me
Feb 10 10:21:54 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Feb 10 10:22:53 <Bowjob>	Tradefortress made a topic that has an starts with "I" in the in the topic title, I don't think mp would make a blunder like that
Feb 10 10:24:29 <Bowjob>	Okay, not start with 'I' but close enough
Feb 10 10:24:30 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135110.0
Feb 10 10:24:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2610 @ 0.00064168 = 1.6748 BTC [+]
Feb 10 10:24:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3590 @ 0.00064204 = 2.3049 BTC [+]
Feb 10 10:24:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [+]
Feb 10 10:24:43 <ThickAsThieves>	we should investigate this much further
Feb 10 10:25:22 <pigeons>	tradefortress is a tool, he tried to fork freicoin and attack it but forgot to make his code actuallu work
Feb 10 10:25:26 <Bowjob>	also his firstbits is 1glados
Feb 10 10:25:36 <Bowjob>	mp doesnt play vidja
Feb 10 10:26:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i kidding
Feb 10 10:26:17 <ThickAsThieves>	like i said, it was just a random though
Feb 10 10:26:20 <ThickAsThieves>	t
Feb 10 10:26:34 <jurov>	i once wanted to oust mp as sacha baron cohen.. still think that would be much better plan than some random forum dude
Feb 10 10:26:54 <pigeons>	i had the same thoughts!
Feb 10 10:27:05 <Bowjob>	Omg
Feb 10 10:27:20 <Bowjob>	Borat as owner of MPEX
Feb 10 10:27:21 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 10 10:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	i think the guy is a kid trying things out
Feb 10 10:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	i recall he was making some sort of project that didn't work but no speciffics.
Feb 10 10:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	o wait, the bitoicn gem ripoff ?
Feb 10 10:30:18 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 10 10:30:20 <Bowjob>	the gold bar
Feb 10 10:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you know if you could get cohen to do it it'd prolly kick all ass
Feb 10 10:30:50 <jurov>	oh and di you knew our friend here usagi uncovered mpoe-pr to be erin pavlina, a psychic from vegas?
Feb 10 10:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	that was a while ago neh ?
Feb 10 10:32:50 <jurov>	yes
Feb 10 10:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	kinda ugly old woman i thought.
Feb 10 10:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	coulda picked a better someone
Feb 10 10:35:21 <pigeons>	http://www.erinpavlina.com/images/erin-injured.jpg
Feb 10 10:35:27 <jurov>	fortunately later inaba got a doxing fever and inadvertently confirmed beyond doubt her real identity and her ties with mp/polimedia
Feb 10 10:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 10 10:36:03 <jurov>	^ twas awhile ago, too. just executive summary for newbs.
Feb 10 10:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	is there an insrtance where inaba set to do something
Feb 10 10:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	and didn't end up doing the exact oposite ?
Feb 10 10:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	a, here we go https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695
Feb 10 10:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00064116 = 1.8594 BTC [-]
Feb 10 10:40:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14960 @ 0.00064204 = 9.6049 BTC [+]
Feb 10 10:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2040 @ 0.00064243 = 1.3106 BTC [+]
Feb 10 10:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2737 @ 0.00064116 = 1.7549 BTC [-]
Feb 10 10:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15763 @ 0.00063473 = 10.0052 BTC [-]
Feb 10 10:43:25 <usagi>	Well that's along the same line that EskimoBob is a man named krokodil gena
Feb 10 10:43:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00063473 = 1.682 BTC [-]
Feb 10 10:43:45 <usagi>	Don't take it took seriously, or you'll end up thinking I claimed milk was the biggest scam known to man
Feb 10 10:44:41 <Ukto>	it used to be
Feb 10 10:44:55 <Ukto>	used to have ads all over the place here to sell milk in the 80s
Feb 10 10:45:02 <Ukto>	"Milk, it does a body good."
Feb 10 10:45:09 <Ukto>	to drink like 5~6 glasses a day
Feb 10 10:45:16 <mircea_popescu>	thats kinda what i do atm
Feb 10 10:45:21 <usagi>	Nowadays it's, 'cows eat corn'
Feb 10 10:45:24 <Ukto>	even though your body can only absorb like 3 glasses worth of calcium a day
Feb 10 10:45:36 <mircea_popescu>	but milk is good
Feb 10 10:45:54 <Ukto>	you drink D, 1%, 2%, skim? half/half?
Feb 10 10:46:04 <mircea_popescu>	4.6%
Feb 10 10:46:08 <Ukto>	0,o
Feb 10 10:46:10 <Ukto>	D
Feb 10 10:46:11 <Ukto>	then
Feb 10 10:46:12 <usagi>	I take 11 different supplements
Feb 10 10:46:14 <mircea_popescu>	a gallon is good for ~ 5-6 days
Feb 10 10:46:36 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: We call that D milk here.
Feb 10 10:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Feb 10 10:46:44 <Ukto>	My personal preference
Feb 10 10:46:50 <Ukto>	the lesser stuff is too watery
Feb 10 10:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	it is better if coming out of D cups yes.
Feb 10 10:46:57 <Ukto>	haha
Feb 10 10:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Feb 10 10:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	brb
Feb 10 10:47:01 <Ukto>	thats a diff type of milk
Feb 10 10:47:02 <Ukto>	:P
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Feb 10 10:47:17 <Ukto>	same
Feb 10 10:47:18 <Ukto>	sleep time
Feb 10 10:47:20 <Ukto>	afk
Feb 10 10:47:23 <Ukto>	usagi: thanks again for that help
Feb 10 10:47:54 <usagi>	You're welcome, but it was really nothing lol
Feb 10 10:47:58 <usagi>	you did all the actual work
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Feb 10 10:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2887 @ 0.00063473 = 1.8325 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 10:57:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11815 @ 0.00063159 = 7.4622 BTC [-]
Feb 10 10:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2035 @ 0.0006313 = 1.2847 BTC [-]
Feb 10 10:59:59 <Bowjob>	we now have a thread about pussies in bitcointalk
Feb 10 10:59:59 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142318.40
Feb 10 11:01:33 <thestringpuller>	this ones for mircea_popescu : http://qkme.me/3sx5kp?id=229974649
Feb 10 11:06:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0006313 = 6.1867 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 11:19:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 894 @ 0.002 = 1.788 BTC [+]
Feb 10 11:20:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3810 @ 0.0006313 = 2.4053 BTC [-]
Feb 10 11:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00062889 = 4.4966 BTC [-]
Feb 10 11:20:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 190 @ 0.0006284 = 0.1194 BTC [-]
Feb 10 11:22:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00063414 = 3.2087 BTC [+]
Feb 10 11:23:10 <Bowjob>	that 2.5 mil shares way above the marketline, that's erik's right?
Feb 10 11:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 10 11:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob i think they were there since long ago
Feb 10 11:23:43 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Feb 10 11:24:19 <Bowjob>		0.01750000	1`000`000 	0.01000000	2`500`000
Feb 10 11:24:28 <Bowjob>	mhm, i don't remember seeing it
Feb 10 11:24:49 <Bowjob>	then again I never really look up that high lol
Feb 10 11:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe. im not even sure
Feb 10 11:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14090 @ 0.00063414 = 8.935 BTC [+]
Feb 10 11:29:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5399 @ 0.00063461 = 3.4263 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 11:35:39 <mjr_>	hey everyone
Feb 10 11:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	hi
Feb 10 11:37:23 <mjr_>	what's new?
Feb 10 11:37:49 <mircea_popescu>	nothing much, bfl delivered, pirate paid, hell froze over...
Feb 10 11:41:42 <Anduck>	only one of those really happened
Feb 10 11:41:49 <Anduck>	mjr_: now it's your job to find out which one
Feb 10 11:42:25 <ThickAsThieves>	you dont think bfl will deliver?
Feb 10 11:42:26 <mjr_>	bfl delivered?
Feb 10 11:42:37 <Anduck>	nope, bfl didnt deliver.
Feb 10 11:42:42 <ThickAsThieves>	(nothing much) was the correct answer
Feb 10 11:42:47 <mjr_>	hell must have frozen over then
Feb 10 11:42:48 <Anduck>	correct!
Feb 10 11:42:52 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 10 11:43:11 <mjr_>	jeff's asic paid for itself in 9 days
Feb 10 11:43:15 <Anduck>	yep
Feb 10 11:43:16 <mjr_>	that is pretty crazy
Feb 10 11:43:29 <mjr_>	but i guess the spike in price made it faster
Feb 10 11:43:51 <ThickAsThieves>	I think BFL will deliver maybe 25% of orders in early march and fill all orders by April, ASICMINER will go online next weekend, and Avalons will trickle out very slowly starting at the end of the month
Feb 10 11:44:26 <ThickAsThieves>	that's my best guesstimate from what i've read at least...
Feb 10 11:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	that'll make whoever made the big bfl bet pretty happy.
Feb 10 11:45:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1476 @ 0.00063461 = 0.9367 BTC [+]
Feb 10 11:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063507 = 2.0957 BTC [+]
Feb 10 11:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6824 @ 0.00063768 = 4.3515 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 11:47:58 <ThickAsThieves>	that bet will be right on the delivery line I bet, hopefully it'll be a nailbiter
Feb 10 11:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062841 = 0.6284 BTC [-]
Feb 10 11:48:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3416 @ 0.0006284 = 2.1466 BTC [-]
Feb 10 11:50:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 11:58:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
Feb 10 11:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1994 @ 0.0006284 = 1.253 BTC [-]
Feb 10 11:59:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062593 = 3.8182 BTC [-]
Feb 10 11:59:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1677 @ 0.00062532 = 1.0487 BTC [-]
Feb 10 12:02:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0248 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 12:04:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9376 @ 0.00063768 = 5.9789 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12810 @ 0.00064243 = 8.2295 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2338 @ 0.00064267 = 1.5026 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7396 @ 0.00064275 = 4.7538 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:04:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3021 @ 0.0006428 = 1.9419 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 12:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, seems there's a little fun to play.
Feb 10 12:08:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify midnightmagic
Feb 10 12:08:18 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Feb 10 12:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	ooops
Feb 10 12:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Feb 10 12:08:36 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Feb 10 12:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:70718f15a4ccbc80065e1446f898b1dcd1a29f8c25ce0fdff2274276
Feb 10 12:09:02 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
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Feb 10 12:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate ne0futur -10 never traded/interacted with the person. prolly scammer getting uppity
Feb 10 12:09:41 <Namworld>	Hey evoorhees
Feb 10 12:09:46 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user ne0futur has been recorded.
Feb 10 12:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate bobberb -10 never traded/interacted with the person. prolly scammer getting uppity
Feb 10 12:09:51 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user bobberb has been recorded.
Feb 10 12:10:00 <evoorhees>	hey hey
Feb 10 12:10:10 <Namworld>	dafuq mircea?
Feb 10 12:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea
Feb 10 12:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the scammers are getting organised now.
Feb 10 12:10:59 <Namworld>	pretty sure ne0futur didn't deserve that
Feb 10 12:11:12 <maximian>	evoorhees: how are things? seems like the s.dice website is having trouble
Feb 10 12:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld he rated me -2.
Feb 10 12:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea who he is or wtf.
Feb 10 12:11:29 <evoorhees>	hey got your message last night
Feb 10 12:11:30 <Namworld>	oh
Feb 10 12:11:38 <evoorhees>	seems fine right now but we're lookin at it
Feb 10 12:11:46 <maximian>	great
Feb 10 12:11:52 <Namworld>	I told you evoorhees to just keep the slice and put the next ones behind it
Feb 10 12:12:05 <maximian>	ah yeah, working fine now
Feb 10 12:12:09 <Namworld>	Someone ought to eat into them eventually
Feb 10 12:13:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:14:28 <ThickAsThieves>	Nam, there are no asks on BBET passthrough fyi
Feb 10 12:15:48 <Namworld>	I need someone to sell me BBET first
Feb 10 12:15:54 <Namworld>	no one is
Feb 10 12:16:05 <Namworld>	and 0.002 is way too high
Feb 10 12:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld ill tell you it's suspicious as all hell, account active feb-june 2011 suddenly pops up to neg me ?
Feb 10 12:17:26 <Namworld>	I know the guy, BitVPS client, he's an affiliate. Advertises us a lot in #bitcoin-hosting
Feb 10 12:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	well then why is he sockpuppeting the wot ?
Feb 10 12:18:11 <mircea_popescu>	2013-02-10 06:46:05 / 2013-02-10 06:46:36
Feb 10 12:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062532 = 3.3142 BTC [-]
Feb 10 12:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	like hell that's a coincidence, that's the same person there.
Feb 10 12:20:14 <Namworld>	Looks like it's for GIGA.ETF
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Feb 10 12:21:05 <EskimoBob>	mpoe-pr aka porn site spammer fluffygrrl needs to get back to her meds. This is not even funny any more. It's sad! No, it's flat out pathetic :)
Feb 10 12:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	to me it looks like it's for not having something better to do with his time.
Feb 10 12:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	i literally don't think i have ever talked to the guy, at all.
Feb 10 12:22:13 <pigeons>	he read the post, felthe should reflect the trust in the WoT, and did
Feb 10 12:22:23 <mircea_popescu>	with both his account and his sock ?
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Feb 10 12:22:36 <pigeons>	i'm gonna ask him about that
Feb 10 12:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	leaving aside the point about how the wot is for interaction not hearsay.
Feb 10 12:22:59 <pigeons>	i don't think its a sock, i bet they were talking about it in the channel and someone else was upset too
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Feb 10 12:23:23 <pigeons>	oh you had interaction with genjix and pirate?
Feb 10 12:23:23 *	mircea_popescu shrug.
Feb 10 12:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 10 12:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	dafuq did you imagine ?!
Feb 10 12:24:00 <pigeons>	tell me about it
Feb 10 12:24:11 <pigeons>	lets go with genjix since we've heard enough about pirate
Feb 10 12:24:35 <Namworld>	I thought ratings were for reflecting how much trust you have for someone
Feb 10 12:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	he fakereported dtng for "child porn". i had to threaten to sue him.
Feb 10 12:24:40 <Namworld>	regardless of interactions
Feb 10 12:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i thought its for business rather than gossip
Feb 10 12:24:48 <pigeons>	that's how most of us use it Namworld
Feb 10 12:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	then again i might be off base for there.
Feb 10 12:25:18 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway : anyone want free -10s they're welcome to neg me out of the blue, i'll oblige.
Feb 10 12:25:34 <mircea_popescu>	and if there's cause for a sock war, we'll do a sock war too.
Feb 10 12:25:40 <mircea_popescu>	technology, what can you do. gotta explore it.
Feb 10 12:25:40 <pigeons>	look at the -otc logs
Feb 10 12:25:44 <pigeons>	its not a sock
Feb 10 12:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	i am not in otc.
Feb 10 12:25:50 <pigeons>	people can agree without being socks
Feb 10 12:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	this is true.
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Feb 10 12:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	i'll happily go on what things look like from where i'm sitting rather than what things "are".
Feb 10 12:26:41 <pigeons>	hehe ok
Feb 10 12:26:49 <pigeons>	I knew that already though
Feb 10 12:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 10 12:27:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3411 @ 0.0006363 = 2.1704 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00063891 = 6.6127 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 689 @ 0.0006428 = 0.4429 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i knew from the get-go that as long as the girl continues to push the wot there's sooner or later going to be some smartassery. so, whatev.
Feb 10 12:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	color me trolled.
Feb 10 12:28:38 <Namworld>	:;rate mircea_popescu -1 Where's my free -10 rating? I want it NAOW!
Feb 10 12:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 10 12:29:03 <Namworld>	Hey, it's free
Feb 10 12:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	;:rate namworld -0x0A newb.
Feb 10 12:29:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 63 @ 0.01 = 0.63 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:31:44 <Namworld>	Wow, it's even in fancy exadecimal. Free and luxurious.
Feb 10 12:31:45 <jurov>	http://satoshitemple.com/index.html today it's extra lulzy
Feb 10 12:33:00 <Namworld>	hexa*
Feb 10 12:33:00 <jurov>	almost sounds like a bait for true satoshi to come and explicitly distance himself from that site
Feb 10 12:33:22 <Namworld>	I think the last line is the punchline xD
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Feb 10 12:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	kinda platitudinous neh ?
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Feb 10 12:36:06 <error4733>	i like the meditation space
Feb 10 12:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	hm github dead ?
Feb 10 12:36:08 <error4733>	http://satoshitemple.com/meditation-space.html
Feb 10 12:36:23 <mircea_popescu>	nm false alarm
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Feb 10 12:40:55 <thestringpuller>	github is gonna get bought out soon
Feb 10 12:41:01 <thestringpuller>	"inside information"
Feb 10 12:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/new-mpex-key/
Feb 10 12:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ^
Feb 10 12:44:59 <jurov>	hrm
Feb 10 12:45:48 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: are we allowed to reupload keys if they expire?
Feb 10 12:45:51 <jurov>	lookg like gpg 2.0 uses different switches
Feb 10 12:46:11 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller not rly
Feb 10 12:46:20 <jurov>	gpg --recv-keys CFE0F3E1 instead... will go through and post a comment
Feb 10 12:46:47 <thestringpuller>	so why do you get to have expiring keys and we don't?
Feb 10 12:46:49 <thestringpuller>	HMMMMMM
Feb 10 12:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	they changes searchkeys ?
Feb 10 12:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller well what'd you want, fairness ?
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Feb 10 12:47:12 <thestringpuller>	YESSIR!
Feb 10 12:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	it's all a ploy to force ppl to buy more and more keys.
Feb 10 12:47:32 <thestringpuller>	sounds like it
Feb 10 12:48:46 <jurov>	aaah seems your wordpress converted -- into ndashes
Feb 10 12:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	i fixed it
Feb 10 12:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	sorry ;/
Feb 10 12:50:50 <Bugpowder>	googletalk forum members won't be pleased to hear this news...   http://allthingsd.com/20130208/google-chairman-eric-schmidt-to-sell-up-to-42-percent-of-stake/
Feb 10 12:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	O MAY GAWD
Feb 10 12:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	DUMPING
Feb 10 12:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	this is too funny. ima have the girl post.
Feb 10 12:52:50 <jurov>	evoorhees should spew stuff like "long-term strategy of individual asset diversification and liquidity" on btctalk
Feb 10 12:53:48 <Bugpowder>	Needs to diversify into S.MPOE
Feb 10 12:54:25 <pigeons>	allthings satoshidice wow
Feb 10 12:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 10 12:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder dude, if he takes half that dough and buys btc
Feb 10 12:56:32 <Bugpowder>	Elon has got to be fucking pissed at this review
Feb 10 12:56:32 <Bugpowder>	http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/automobiles/stalled-on-the-ev-highway.html?pagewanted=1&hpw
Feb 10 12:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7790 @ 0.0006428 = 5.0074 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	maybe the teslas just suck ? :D
Feb 10 12:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064297 = 1.6074 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1110 @ 0.00064304 = 0.7138 BTC [+]
Feb 10 12:57:33 <jurov>	yea, there's funny comment below article "why they can't just add propane heating?"
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Feb 10 12:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00063456 = 11.4855 BTC [-]
Feb 10 12:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062532 = 2.5013 BTC [-]
Feb 10 12:59:04 <jurov>	but srsly, for that price good insulation + air heat exchanged is thinkable
Feb 10 12:59:15 <jurov>	not in california, tho
Feb 10 12:59:22 <jurov>	*exchanger
Feb 10 13:01:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.081 = 0.486 BTC [-]
Feb 10 13:02:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0062 = 0.62 BTC [+]
Feb 10 13:02:58 <jurov>	cause of this they'll fall flat in most of yurp, too
Feb 10 13:03:15 <mircea_popescu>	Feeding the 416 horsepower motor of the top-of-the-line Model S Performance edition is a half-ton lithium-ion battery pack slung beneath the cockpit
Feb 10 13:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	srsly now... half ton battery ?
Feb 10 13:03:27 <mircea_popescu>	what if that thing catches on fire
Feb 10 13:04:24 <jurov>	they apparently agineered battery pack to avoid fire: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/elon-musk-boeing-787-battery-fundamentally-unsafe-381627/
Feb 10 13:04:32 <jurov>	derp, *engineered
Feb 10 13:05:53 <jurov>	but still, if you crash tesla in sufficient speed... remains to be seen. maybe rkoi do such experiment soon
Feb 10 13:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3890 @ 0.00064304 = 2.5014 BTC [+]
Feb 10 13:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4410 @ 0.00064305 = 2.8359 BTC [+]
Feb 10 13:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	scary thing
Feb 10 13:06:50 <Bugpowder>	According to the tesla forums, the battery drain when he parked overnight was becuase the battery pack actively heats itself during cold weather to keep the pack healthy.
Feb 10 13:07:07 <Bugpowder>	Anyway, Tesla is an LA car
Feb 10 13:07:11 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much
Feb 10 13:07:22 <Bugpowder>	So if I get an LA job
Feb 10 13:07:26 <Bugpowder>	I will need an LA car
Feb 10 13:07:28 <Bugpowder>	:)
Feb 10 13:07:43 <Bugpowder>	Their problem is their engineers are all in LA
Feb 10 13:07:53 <DeaDTerra>	I love the tesla cars they look so bad ass :D
Feb 10 13:08:08 <Bugpowder>	so the weather is just not on their awareness
Feb 10 13:08:33 <pigeons>	cant get girl cause i dont have acar, cant get a car cause i dont have a job, cant get a job cause i dont have a gun now im looking for a girl with a car and a house and a job and a gun and cable in la
Feb 10 13:08:42 <jurov>	they don't need AC in LA either?
Feb 10 13:08:53 <jurov>	its equally power hungry
Feb 10 13:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	in la they have lightning
Feb 10 13:10:19 <Bugpowder>	It never goes below 0C in LA
Feb 10 13:10:29 <Bugpowder>	A trip to Mammoth or Tahoe though...
Feb 10 13:10:32 <Bugpowder>	could be an issue
Feb 10 13:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	Nearing New York, I made the first of several calls to Tesla officials about my creeping range anxiety. The woman who had delivered the car told me to turn off the cruise control; company executives later told me that advice was wrong. All the while, my feet were freezing and my knuckles were turning white.
Feb 10 13:10:54 <mircea_popescu>	lmo
Feb 10 13:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	the shit people do to be cool
Feb 10 13:11:32 <Bugpowder>	what's cooler than being cool?
Feb 10 13:11:39 <Bugpowder>	ice cold!
Feb 10 13:11:43 <jurov>	tesla should include wire with hooks to ninja-connect to overhead wires
Feb 10 13:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i was thinking actually, having a little antenna like a trolley...
Feb 10 13:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	might work
Feb 10 13:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	make th car in the shape of a ladybug
Feb 10 13:12:24 <mircea_popescu>	all the la fags would prolly be all over it.
Feb 10 13:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00064305 = 7.3951 BTC [+]
Feb 10 13:12:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0062 = 12.4 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 13:14:46 <jurov>	should electromobiles get more popular that wouldn't be a bad business idea, selling these kits
Feb 10 13:14:59 <jurov>	harpoon + hooked wires
Feb 10 13:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	you could have it detachable
Feb 10 13:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	only use if need be
Feb 10 13:15:14 <jurov>	"Recharge your auto errywhere"
Feb 10 13:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	course difficult to charge for it
Feb 10 13:15:47 <jurov>	no it won't be always attached
Feb 10 13:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	a, actually : have the wires on poles with a special ring on them, and a connector
Feb 10 13:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	the connector hooks to your car and only unhooks if you pay
Feb 10 13:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	sort of like supermarket carts
Feb 10 13:16:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.0007 = 0.07 BTC
Feb 10 13:16:14 <jurov>	just when range anxiety kicks in, you go and hook to overhead electricity
Feb 10 13:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1517002#msg1517002 lmao
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Feb 10 13:18:47 <jurov>	waiting for the first tard who tries to hook his tesla on 110kv
Feb 10 13:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	i would hope they have some hard fuse
Feb 10 13:19:43 <jurov>	110kv can jump over several meters... no fuse to help there
Feb 10 13:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is true
Feb 10 13:21:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00064305 = 5.5302 BTC [+]
Feb 10 13:26:49 <EskimoBob>	LOL! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516992#msg1516992
Feb 10 13:27:19 <Bugpowder>	this is false
Feb 10 13:27:21 <Bugpowder>	http://www.kronjaeger.com/hv/hv/msr/spk/index.html
Feb 10 13:27:38 <Bugpowder>	110kV air gap crossing is a few inches tops.
Feb 10 13:27:49 <jurov>	in dry conditions.
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Feb 10 13:33:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00064111 = 9.1038 BTC [-]
Feb 10 13:35:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00064111 = 4.039 BTC [-]
Feb 10 13:35:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00063324 = 6.459 BTC [-]
Feb 10 13:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5131 @ 0.00062533 = 3.2086 BTC [-]
Feb 10 13:36:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9310 @ 0.00062532 = 5.8217 BTC [-]
Feb 10 13:37:34 <Bugpowder>	people just be hatin' on S.MPOE lately
Feb 10 13:37:40 <Bugpowder>	wuzzupwiththat?
Feb 10 13:39:25 <ThickAsThieves>	peeps jumping on the sdice train?
Feb 10 13:39:46 <Bugpowder>	makes no sense
Feb 10 13:40:00 <Bugpowder>	I would think people would jump off the S.DICE train
Feb 10 13:40:10 <Bugpowder>	and rotate to S.MPOE
Feb 10 13:40:33 <jurov>	they expect higher divs from s.dice
Feb 10 13:42:05 <jurov>	and (needs analysis to confirm) s.mpoe has more early adopters that bought at lower prices than s.dice
Feb 10 13:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	seems about even
Feb 10 13:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe is like 11ish %, dice like 13
Feb 10 13:42:41 <jurov>	you mean PE?
Feb 10 13:43:36 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like SDICE share price is recovering quickly
Feb 10 13:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	no i mean shares held by 3rd parties
Feb 10 13:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695 i think teh lady doth have it.
Feb 10 13:48:38 <EskimoBob>	and read the rest of the posts too. It's hilarious how she keeps fucking up over and over again. Retarded masters need retarded servants or was it retarded servants have retarded masters.
Feb 10 13:48:53 <maximian>	EskimoBob: lay off the gasoline
Feb 10 13:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how long he lasts before going the way of ciuciu
Feb 10 13:50:30 <jurov>	EskimoBob, i ask you again to do something genuinely useful
Feb 10 13:50:46 <jurov>	yourself, i mean
Feb 10 13:50:46 <EskimoBob>	jurov: can I ask you for the same?
Feb 10 13:51:04 <jurov>	instead of telling others what they should be doing
Feb 10 13:51:13 <EskimoBob>	this ass liking, you are doing, is getting kinda old
Feb 10 13:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	"Hitler reportedly told Goebbels in 1942 that he planned to convert Germany to vegetarianism after he had won the war."
Feb 10 13:51:19 <jurov>	i mostly mind my own stuff.. let others decide if i;m useful
Feb 10 13:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	is there a bad idea that guy didn't have ?
Feb 10 13:51:26 <maximian>	he's like some angry drunk, raving at everybody and nobody
Feb 10 13:51:28 <EskimoBob>	jurov: you seem to like it when you are told to jump
Feb 10 13:51:53 <EskimoBob>	maximian: talking about yourself?
Feb 10 13:52:27 <jurov>	eskimo, you avoided answer to my inquiry
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Feb 10 13:52:59 <jurov>	or you really think what you're doing right now is useful?
Feb 10 13:53:24 <maximian>	EskimoBob: don't you own some s.dice shares?
Feb 10 13:54:01 <EskimoBob>	maximian: and you are who?
Feb 10 13:54:10 <jurov>	avoidance, again
Feb 10 13:54:23 <Anduck>	pro people sells their s.dice shares at 0.0075
Feb 10 13:55:30 <maximian>	I just think it's insane that someone would sow FUD about the very stock he holds
Feb 10 13:55:36 <ThickAsThieves>	Done, eskimobob on ignore, bleh
Feb 10 13:55:37 <EskimoBob>	Anduck: is someone buying at that?
Feb 10 13:55:42 <Anduck>	no
Feb 10 13:55:48 <Anduck>	but -was- buying xD
Feb 10 13:55:53 <Anduck>	( i sold at that price )
Feb 10 13:56:17 <EskimoBob>	I sold some, before the dump happened
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Feb 10 13:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1963 @ 0.00062532 = 1.2275 BTC [-]
Feb 10 13:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7887 @ 0.00062519 = 4.9309 BTC [-]
Feb 10 13:57:17 <EskimoBob>	ThickAsThieves: LOL, like I give a shit...
Feb 10 13:57:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00063142 = 1.6101 BTC [+]
Feb 10 13:57:48 <jurov>	EskimoBob, i'm still waiting
Feb 10 13:57:58 <EskimoBob>	for what?
Feb 10 13:58:20 <jurov>	for some useful thing you did. or at least advice
Feb 10 13:58:23 <EskimoBob>	command to jump?
Feb 10 13:58:32 <EskimoBob>	JUMP! jurov JUMP!
Feb 10 13:58:53 <jurov>	you like commandeering ppl over, don't you
Feb 10 13:58:55 <jurov>	?
Feb 10 13:59:10 <EskimoBob>	why?
Feb 10 13:59:22 <jurov>	oh just read after yourself
Feb 10 13:59:30 <jurov>	and i won't ignore you. i'm not so easy ;)
Feb 10 13:59:38 <EskimoBob>	damn...
Feb 10 14:00:42 <jurov>	literally, i did not ever seen a sentence written by you where you weren't telling someone else whet they should be doing
Feb 10 14:01:05 <jurov>	except when you were talking bout clay mugs workshop, maybe
Feb 10 14:01:37 <Bugpowder>	I am less concerned about regulation with S.MPOE
Feb 10 14:01:48 <EskimoBob>	jurov: really? I guess you see what you want to see.
Feb 10 14:01:50 <Bugpowder>	and I am deeply concerned with S.DICE's future revenue
Feb 10 14:02:08 <Bugpowder>	given the whale address analysis I posted.
Feb 10 14:02:18 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: URL please
Feb 10 14:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	think it may be out of moneyz ?
Feb 10 14:02:26 <Bugpowder>	they are
Feb 10 14:02:27 <jurov>	EskimoBob: URL please
Feb 10 14:02:30 <Bugpowder>	for now
Feb 10 14:02:40 <Bugpowder>	that's not to say more won't show up
Feb 10 14:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	but i mean... are we satisfied there's pretty much 1 person playing the high stakes ?
Feb 10 14:02:49 <Bugpowder>	yah
Feb 10 14:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	ah, i missed thaty
Feb 10 14:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder who
Feb 10 14:02:59 <Bugpowder>	all those addresses passed coins around between them
Feb 10 14:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	not a mixer/exchange/something tho ?
Feb 10 14:03:43 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1516655#msg1516655
Feb 10 14:03:52 <Bugpowder>	no direct refill from one address to another
Feb 10 14:04:01 <Bugpowder>	its all in the blockchain
Feb 10 14:04:09 <Bugpowder>	amazed that people don't do this homework
Feb 10 14:04:11 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: please tell me my crazy idea of "IPO coin used for pumping SDICE, to make it look good", is wrong
Feb 10 14:04:22 <Bugpowder>	it is possible EskimoBob
Feb 10 14:04:27 <EskimoBob>	:(
Feb 10 14:04:30 <Bugpowder>	and in fact, I first proposed this
Feb 10 14:04:33 <Bugpowder>	months ago.
Feb 10 14:04:47 <Bugpowder>	I don't believe it to be the case
Feb 10 14:04:49 <Bugpowder>	but it is possible
Feb 10 14:04:58 <EskimoBob>	OK, i did the same independently
Feb 10 14:05:04 <Bugpowder>	I believe MP still has a 100BTC reward out there for proof
Feb 10 14:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, still unclaimed.
Feb 10 14:05:26 <Bugpowder>	and Erik will pay 50BTC if you can come up with a way to DISPROVE it with his help
Feb 10 14:05:47 <EskimoBob>	shit, so he is worried
Feb 10 14:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	pretty hefty sums huh
Feb 10 14:06:21 <Bugpowder>	EskimoBob: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/
Feb 10 14:06:38 <ThickAsThieves>	up it and maybe the whale will reveal himself so he can use the winnings to bet more
Feb 10 14:06:48 <EskimoBob>	I do not read that assholes blog
Feb 10 14:07:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.7167 BTC [-]
Feb 10 14:07:06 <Bugpowder>	However, I am pretty sure the IPO withdrawl proceeds are still sitting in untouched addresses
Feb 10 14:07:19 <maximian>	The thing is, whales really do exist… Erik recently returned from a trip to Macau, where he says he met with some gambling concerns… it seems reasonable to me that his visit sparked the interest of someone over there.
Feb 10 14:08:04 <Bugpowder>	maybe not though
Feb 10 14:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i haven't followed, but should be easy enough to see
Feb 10 14:08:15 <maximian>	yeah, all we can do is speculate
Feb 10 14:08:18 <EskimoBob>	maximian: he wrote about it in forums. What a sad sight. Those ople are so dull, they can not come up with a way to enjoy the coin
Feb 10 14:08:20 <Bugpowder>	yeah, weren't there 10,000BTC withdrawals from 1Fx
Feb 10 14:08:31 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 10 14:08:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.54300, Best ask: 23.57434, Bid-ask spread: 0.03134, Last trade: 23.54299, 24 hour volume: 53469.41322082, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.38975
Feb 10 14:08:35 <evoorhees>	sigh.... it's funny watching people talk about something that I know the definitive answer to, but have no way to prove it
Feb 10 14:08:43 <EskimoBob>	just sitting and betting like those Vegas retards at slot machines
Feb 10 14:08:55 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees you'll get used to it, i think this is one of the main effects of btc
Feb 10 14:08:59 <maximian>	evoorhees: welcome to fearful investor time!
Feb 10 14:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	creates this sort of problem
Feb 10 14:09:16 <mircea_popescu>	of course, if whales really are chinese, they wouldn't be betting atm
Feb 10 14:09:20 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/1GvaYKp4z7V4wVzL3xC1Kvj7zrTwNAh2wM
Feb 10 14:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's new year's right ?
Feb 10 14:09:24 <EskimoBob>	evoorhees: i still hope it's all bull shit
Feb 10 14:09:28 <EskimoBob>	i actually do
Feb 10 14:09:51 <evoorhees>	eskimobob - the whale/s is not me
Feb 10 14:09:56 <maximian>	the conspiracy theories are inversely proportional to expected dividend yields :)
Feb 10 14:10:12 <EskimoBob>	evoorhees:... and you are not a asshole, even you crawled to same bed with pervert popscu and the rest of the mpex clowns
Feb 10 14:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	maximian yes. but also directly proportional.
Feb 10 14:10:38 <evoorhees>	I have yet to see a sentence from you in which you refrain from calling people names
Feb 10 14:10:43 <EskimoBob>	evoorhees: can it be trendon?
Feb 10 14:10:59 <EskimoBob>	evoorhees: what people?
Feb 10 14:11:02 <evoorhees>	sure it could be trendon
Feb 10 14:11:05 <maximian>	ha, yes
Feb 10 14:11:09 <EskimoBob>	oh, those gypsy dogs?
Feb 10 14:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Feb 10 14:11:19 <EskimoBob>	LOL, sorry about that (actually not)
Feb 10 14:11:22 <evoorhees>	you could be trendon, eskimobob
Feb 10 14:11:34 <EskimoBob>	no, not me
Feb 10 14:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	no, he couldn't. pirate was slimy but not stupid.
Feb 10 14:11:44 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/1AB2pgzv4yZQWp1ZS5Vb8sHWGHbuXwh2An
Feb 10 14:11:50 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/1BadjLJqb2CB73t3ZJ296xrwhHNhyo5JaU
Feb 10 14:11:51 <EskimoBob>	nobody is as slimy as you, mircea_popescu
Feb 10 14:12:49 <EskimoBob>	evoorhees: if I had that coin trendon walked away, Do you really think I'll be wasting my time here? (and in this shitty weather)
Feb 10 14:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	what's those ?
Feb 10 14:13:27 <evoorhees>	I don't know eskimobob, but you really like to be rude and immature with people
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Feb 10 14:14:05 <EskimoBob>	evoorhees: i am rude only to scumbags
Feb 10 14:14:30 <evoorhees>	you're rude to me
Feb 10 14:14:57 <Bugpowder>	those are addresses with large withdrawls from MPEx, and where the money sits
Feb 10 14:15:39 <EskimoBob>	evoorhees, not really
Feb 10 14:15:39 <mircea_popescu>	ah yes.
Feb 10 14:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	not all of the large mpex withdrawals are erik, fwiw.
Feb 10 14:16:27 <evoorhees>	yes you are eskimobob - in fact I think you're the only person in the entire bitcoin community who is consistently rude to me
Feb 10 14:16:34 <EskimoBob>	you see evoorhees, sooner or later someone slips and spills the beans :)
Feb 10 14:16:47 <evoorhees>	?
Feb 10 14:17:08 <EskimoBob>	evoorhees: is there a reason you deserve special treatment or even respect for no apparent reason?
Feb 10 14:17:25 <evoorhees>	lol
Feb 10 14:17:37 <evoorhees>	so for you to not be rude to someone constitutes special treatment?
Feb 10 14:17:39 <evoorhees>	interesting
Feb 10 14:18:09 <EskimoBob>	evoorhees: lol, nice spin
Feb 10 14:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6038 @ 0.00062519 = 3.7749 BTC [-]
Feb 10 14:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5612 @ 0.00062493 = 3.5071 BTC [-]
Feb 10 14:20:37 <jurov>	EskimoBob, either you are rude to him or not... everyone can see which of that is the truth
Feb 10 14:20:44 <jurov>	no spin ncessary
Feb 10 14:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00063057 = 5.8328 BTC [+]
Feb 10 14:20:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00063142 = 6.5668 BTC [+]
Feb 10 14:20:58 <EskimoBob>	jurov: wht's with you and "everyone" all the time?
Feb 10 14:21:37 <jurov>	oh yes, avoid the question again
Feb 10 14:22:01 <EskimoBob>	why can't I be rude to him?
Feb 10 14:22:31 <jurov>	you can. but don't expect anyone to treat you seriously when you deny it
Feb 10 14:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 10 14:22:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.62489, Best ask: 23.68998, Bid-ask spread: 0.06509, Last trade: 23.69000, 24 hour volume: 53432.08209497, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.39005
Feb 10 14:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	still plenty of potential upside...
Feb 10 14:23:04 <EskimoBob>	jurov: did I deny something?
Feb 10 14:23:52 <jurov>	<EskimoBob> evoorhees: i am rude only to scumbags
Feb 10 14:24:01 <jurov>	<EskimoBob> evoorhees:... and you are not a asshole, even you crawled to same bed with pervert popscu and the rest of the mpex clowns
Feb 10 14:24:15 <EskimoBob>	and how is this denying?
Feb 10 14:24:26 <jurov>	that denial is gaping
Feb 10 14:24:38 <EskimoBob>	and you did you quote out of context ?
Feb 10 14:24:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 70 @ 0.0429 = 3.003 BTC [-]
Feb 10 14:24:56 <EskimoBob>	yes, I am rude to assholes. How am I denying this? I am not
Feb 10 14:25:00 <jurov>	lmao you basically said you won't be rude to him and then said he's in bed with perverts
Feb 10 14:25:17 <thestringpuller>	is there high school drama goin on
Feb 10 14:25:25 <thestringpuller>	ooh ooh! an eventful sunday for once
Feb 10 14:25:44 <jurov>	i'm hust having eskimobob here on a couch for a while
Feb 10 14:25:49 <jurov>	*just
Feb 10 14:25:51 <EskimoBob>	jurov: so? Did I lie?
Feb 10 14:26:02 <EskimoBob>	he is "in bed" with pervert
Feb 10 14:26:32 <EskimoBob>	are you familiar with "in bed" meaning ?
Feb 10 14:26:59 <EskimoBob>	in business
Feb 10 14:27:01 <EskimoBob>	etc
Feb 10 14:27:02 <jurov>	you have no esteem for erik's own judgement
Feb 10 14:27:18 <jurov>	and you tell it to him in a rude way
Feb 10 14:27:20 *	EskimoBob yawns
Feb 10 14:27:49 <EskimoBob>	damn... lapdogs and their constant yapping
Feb 10 14:28:16 <jurov>	you see what you want to see, indeed
Feb 10 14:28:50 <evoorhees>	EskimoBob is probably really nice in real life. It's a shame he acts like this online
Feb 10 14:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees prolly has a lot to do with all the people giving him attention this way
Feb 10 14:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	as opposed to if he simply stuck to whatever he's doing, i don't recall.
Feb 10 14:31:52 <thestringpuller>	evoorhees: always so reasonable ;)
Feb 10 14:32:54 <DeaDTerra>	Whos fighting? Eskimobob and Erik? :P
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Feb 10 14:35:37 <jurov>	no just eskimo's got a fit... and i sometimes like to get trolls bored
Feb 10 14:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	ok so, the person doing farsi mpex faq wrote to express their concerns about use of terms such as "idiot".
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Feb 10 14:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	til i'm possibly the least polite person alive.
Feb 10 14:38:03 <jurov>	you forget the girl
Feb 10 14:38:45 <EskimoBob>	DeaDTerra: fight? hell no :)
Feb 10 14:40:13 <mircea_popescu>	see how impolite i am ?
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Feb 10 14:40:36 <EskimoBob>	farsi translation? I guess they need to see your video of Qur'an burning
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Feb 10 14:40:58 <jurov>	mircea_popescu:  <EskimoBob> farsi translation? I guess they need to see your video of Qur'an burning
Feb 10 14:41:08 <EskimoBob>	jurov: :)
Feb 10 14:41:21 <jurov>	actually first useful idea of his, can be included right in the faq
Feb 10 14:41:32 <EskimoBob>	you are so loyal. like a little dog
Feb 10 14:41:49 *	jurov wags a tail and waits for a cookie
Feb 10 14:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	from what i can tell iran is actualyl a merrily unstable mix of ethnic persians who resent the muslims and leading muslims who are struggling to stay in power.
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Feb 10 14:42:11 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like india/pakistan except reversed
Feb 10 14:43:36 *	EskimoBob gives jurov a cookie
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Feb 10 14:43:54 *	jurov jumps and licks EskimoBob's face
Feb 10 14:45:46 <EskimoBob>	jurov: how can you so bad judge of character? This is a honest question. I is it possible you do not understand what a scumbag mircea_popescu actually is.
Feb 10 14:46:07 <EskimoBob>	it is truly amazing
Feb 10 14:46:30 <EskimoBob>	are you a "whore"?
Feb 10 14:46:43 <jurov>	yes, he is not nice. but that's not a problem for me
Feb 10 14:47:21 <EskimoBob>	so why are you mad at me?
Feb 10 14:47:40 <jurov>	i'm curious why you are so mad
Feb 10 14:47:49 <jurov>	so i'm making pointed inquiries
Feb 10 14:48:19 <jurov>	what exactly he did it to you? did he sent a girl to call you idiot? puhleaze
Feb 10 14:48:20 <EskimoBob>	I am not mad :) write this down
Feb 10 14:48:35 <EskimoBob>	puhleaze indeed
Feb 10 14:48:57 <jurov>	for someone who isn't mad you expend considerable energy
Feb 10 14:49:48 <jurov>	including telling other people (that seem intelligent enough to have their own judgement) to not lay in bed with perverts
Feb 10 14:50:31 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha this is great. so you all think evoorhees is pretty nice ? somethingawful does not!
Feb 10 14:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	"Honestly, from what I've seen of him, he's bad but he's no worse than Erik Voorhees, who posted above him. Erik says the stupidest true believer bullshit all the time. He spews Bruce-level garbage. My favorite is when, during the last crash, a distraught bitcoiner was whining about having to sell his bitcoins for less than he paid for them in order to not be living on the street. Erik told him that he didn't believe i
Feb 10 14:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	n bitcoins hard enough and that he's glad that the guy sold his bitcoins because that means that there would be more available for Erik to purchase. He said something like, "This just shows that money always flows from the weak hands to the strong hands," and that his strong hands would be ready to snatch bitcoins from unfaithful bitcoiners. It's some of the stupidest poo poo I've ever heard."
Feb 10 14:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	basically... he's not sensitive enough for the liberal club. what now ?
Feb 10 14:50:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7338 @ 0.00062493 = 4.5857 BTC [-]
Feb 10 14:50:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062423 = 3.0587 BTC [-]
Feb 10 14:51:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8612 @ 0.0006234 = 5.3687 BTC [-]
Feb 10 14:51:24 <evoorhees>	hehehe I remember saying that
Feb 10 14:51:29 <evoorhees>	and I was right
Feb 10 14:51:33 <evoorhees>	BAM $23
Feb 10 14:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 10 14:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	its funny how them kids work, mentally.
Feb 10 14:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1388 @ 0.0006234 = 0.8653 BTC [-]
Feb 10 14:52:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00062196 = 4.9757 BTC [-]
Feb 10 14:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5862 @ 0.00062161 = 3.6439 BTC [-]
Feb 10 14:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	disregard all contrary evidence, subselect some idiots off bitcvoin forum, post endlessly about how those idiots disregard all contrary evidence
Feb 10 14:52:30 <mircea_popescu>	it could be like a political debate or something.
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Feb 10 14:58:35 <EskimoBob>	jurov: not sure why are you so worried about that statement. Did I lie?
Feb 10 14:59:45 <jurov>	i'm not worried. just in mood to do some research why you do all the misguided effort
Feb 10 15:00:16 <EskimoBob>	jurov: qui cum canibus concumbunt cum pulicibus surgent
Feb 10 15:00:28 <EskimoBob>	If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas,
Feb 10 15:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12467 @ 0.00062502 = 7.7921 BTC [+]
Feb 10 15:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1033 @ 0.00062866 = 0.6494 BTC [+]
Feb 10 15:00:59 <jurov>	and why something like mircea being pervert would have any bearing on business?
Feb 10 15:01:35 <EskimoBob>	he is not only a pervert but a spammer
Feb 10 15:01:39 <jurov>	me myself would be pronounced pervert in surprisingly large part of a world, cuz i'm gay
Feb 10 15:01:57 <EskimoBob>	he thinks like a fkn thieve and acts like on
Feb 10 15:02:05 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob just doesn't understand history, or facts really.
Feb 10 15:02:18 <EskimoBob>	jurov: yes, you are a pervert :)
Feb 10 15:02:29 <jurov>	spammer? i didn't seen any evidence. you mean that SEO misunderstanding?
Feb 10 15:02:32 <thestringpuller>	This hipster mentality, "we are young so we are owed the world".
Feb 10 15:03:00 <jurov>	or that martha mcculler stuff that went nowhere?
Feb 10 15:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	what stuff is that ?
Feb 10 15:04:19 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: something wrt polimedia.us registration
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Feb 10 15:04:43 <mircea_popescu>	o i recall. some nitwit complained that i have no nexus,
Feb 10 15:04:49 <mircea_popescu>	neustar inquired, i showed them teh nexus.
Feb 10 15:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	great victory for interwebs day.
Feb 10 15:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6488 @ 0.00062161 = 4.033 BTC [-]
Feb 10 15:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2307 @ 0.00062044 = 1.4314 BTC [-]
Feb 10 15:07:35 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Feb 10 15:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061978 / 0.00063368 / 0.00066091 (2909907 shares, 1,843.96 BTC), 7D: 0.00061978 / 0.00067944 / 0.0007 (20559168 shares, 13,968.81 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.0006647 / 0.0007 (70380888 shares, 46,782.44 BTC)
Feb 10 15:08:05 <thestringpuller>	are investors pulling out because of the trolls/naysayers?
Feb 10 15:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	o, i'm sure.
Feb 10 15:08:15 <Bugpowder>	of S.MPOE?
Feb 10 15:08:21 <thestringpuller>	XD
Feb 10 15:08:22 <Bugpowder>	who knows
Feb 10 15:08:40 <Bugpowder>	I know that I have picked up quite a bit
Feb 10 15:08:48 <jurov>	i'd say most naysaying was around s.dice
Feb 10 15:08:48 <Bugpowder>	in the last 24
Feb 10 15:08:54 <thestringpuller>	MPEX is awesome because unless you disclose yourself trading, no one really knows the investors.
Feb 10 15:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	yup.
Feb 10 15:09:16 <Bugpowder>	I should probably stop disclosing :-P
Feb 10 15:09:17 <thestringpuller>	Some illuminati shit right there.
Feb 10 15:09:21 <mircea_popescu>	you could be lieing.
Feb 10 15:09:29 <Bugpowder>	I am
Feb 10 15:09:32 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: do keep access logs?
Feb 10 15:09:33 <Bugpowder>	I AM LIEING
Feb 10 15:09:39 <maximian>	do you
Feb 10 15:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13719 @ 0.00062866 = 8.6246 BTC [+]
Feb 10 15:10:06 <mircea_popescu>	maximian which kind you mean ? all signed orders are kept yes.
Feb 10 15:10:25 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: why are you not selling?
Feb 10 15:10:32 <Bugpowder>	S.MPOE
Feb 10 15:10:32 <maximian>	specifically, do your web servers retain IP addresses, browser agent strings, etc
Feb 10 15:10:33 <Bugpowder>	?
Feb 10 15:10:41 <Bugpowder>	looks like its oversold
Feb 10 15:10:43 <EskimoBob>	you think you get a medal if you hold that crap?
Feb 10 15:10:59 <Bugpowder>	no, just a likely 15% return within a week.
Feb 10 15:11:10 <Bugpowder>	;;calc .0007/.00062
Feb 10 15:11:10 <gribble>	1.12903225806
Feb 10 15:11:14 <Bugpowder>	13%
Feb 10 15:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	maximian yeah, like normal apache does. the logs are purged periodically for space but the behaviour itself is not standardized.
Feb 10 15:11:39 <Bugpowder>	that is, if the .0007 does not sell through, which it probably will.
Feb 10 15:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	the judgement is that privacy-minded users are better server by proxy/vpn/tor/etc
Feb 10 15:11:48 <maximian>	right… I was just thinking it'd be a good idea to purge those regularly for anonymity
Feb 10 15:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	it wouldn't help you anyway, the isp prolly keeps logs i can't purge
Feb 10 15:12:05 <maximian>	true, but sometimes I get lazy :)
Feb 10 15:12:09 <mircea_popescu>	if it's a concern you should use a proxy
Feb 10 15:12:16 <maximian>	not a concern, just curious
Feb 10 15:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 10 15:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	it just didn't seem something where benefits could be obtained, so i didn't bother to specify it any particular way.
Feb 10 15:15:07 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: why do you artifically create demand for trade data, btw (historical data).
Feb 10 15:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	i do ?!
Feb 10 15:15:46 <thestringpuller>	i'm sure anyone with the trade data could get more for it than it's truly worth due to you sealing executed trades from your end
Feb 10 15:16:51 <kakobreklaa>	how much u pay
Feb 10 15:16:57 <kakobreklaa>	ill start collecting :)
Feb 10 15:17:11 <thestringpuller>	^- my point concisely :P
Feb 10 15:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	the idea is that someone should start a service offering all that.
Feb 10 15:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	mpex is about creating more or less the correct niching of the space
Feb 10 15:18:35 <mircea_popescu>	i don't want to be a broker, or a data provider, or a whatever myself. rather than try and do everything i'd much rather see a lot of people each do something.
Feb 10 15:18:47 <mircea_popescu>	certainly end up stronger that way (even if some fail along the way)
Feb 10 15:19:19 <thestringpuller>	certainly end up stronger that way (even if some fail along the way)
Feb 10 15:19:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4143 @ 0.00062724 = 2.5987 BTC [-]
Feb 10 15:19:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19257 @ 0.00062866 = 12.1061 BTC [+]
Feb 10 15:19:26 <thestringpuller>	oops
Feb 10 15:19:52 <thestringpuller>	With that logic the data provider would have to be someone from the beta, how can I also trust their data is valid without your signature?
Feb 10 15:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	as soon as someone thinks the data is actually valuable, the service will exist
Feb 10 15:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	before anyone thinks the data is valuable, the data is not valuable.
Feb 10 15:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00062044 = 3.5986 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 15:22:50 <thestringpuller>	that still doesn't answer the concern of validity
Feb 10 15:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7003 @ 0.00062866 = 4.4025 BTC [+]
Feb 10 15:22:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1083 @ 0.00063142 = 0.6838 BTC [+]
Feb 10 15:22:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00063272 = 0.5062 BTC [+]
Feb 10 15:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12214 @ 0.00063409 = 7.7448 BTC [+]
Feb 10 15:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	now that's a point.
Feb 10 15:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it'd work like ripple, by consensus ?
Feb 10 15:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	seems bulky to sign each rss item...
Feb 10 15:24:19 <thestringpuller>	certainly, but you are the only one who can _initially_ guarentee validity of the "first copy"
Feb 10 15:24:28 <thestringpuller>	guarantee*
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Feb 10 15:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	what's wrong with observers guaranteeing each other what they saw, this way checking me ?
Feb 10 15:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	bah all that nonsense eskimoblob spam drowned out freemoney joining, and i wanted to talk to him
Feb 10 15:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	see kids, this is why you don't feed the trolls.
Feb 10 15:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 158 @ 0.00627403 = 0.9913 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 15:28:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: believer in relativity :P
Feb 10 15:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062045 = 0.6205 BTC [-]
Feb 10 15:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5393 @ 0.00062044 = 3.346 BTC [-]
Feb 10 15:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	just not centralising more than's needed.
Feb 10 15:28:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10664 @ 0.00062002 = 6.6119 BTC [-]
Feb 10 15:28:49 <thestringpuller>	"The lightning struck at 2:00PM", says the man on the train "No it struck at 2:05" says the man standing still.
Feb 10 15:30:30 <mircea_popescu>	"Technomadic Graphic Designer and Urban Artist accepting Bitcoins"
Feb 10 15:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	is that what they call bums now, tehcnonomadic ?
Feb 10 15:30:55 <jurov>	yes, bums with ipads
Feb 10 15:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	mo ipads mo problems
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Feb 10 15:38:05 <Lyspooner>	when do you think that jgarzik spent 1299 on an avalon ASIC instead of buying 1299 worth of coins?
Feb 10 15:39:40 <mircea_popescu>	good q.
Feb 10 15:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	seeing how no way that pos paid for itself by now.
Feb 10 15:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	what he means is, it generated 1300 dollart's worth of coins at today's price or w/e
Feb 10 15:40:27 <Lyspooner>	well sure, but the audience soon forgets what else he could have done with that money
Feb 10 15:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	indeed
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Feb 10 15:41:38 <Lyspooner>	he'll probably end up ahead anyways, but just sayin
Feb 10 15:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	prolly yeah.
Feb 10 15:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	 Network total	26.180 Thash/s still
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Feb 10 15:43:56 <Namworld>	there was a bit of growth
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Feb 10 15:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld vairance tho
Feb 10 15:48:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.0007 = 0.0028 BTC
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Feb 10 15:54:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00062434 = 7.055 BTC [+]
Feb 10 15:54:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1611 @ 0.00062354 = 1.0045 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 16:01:37 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 10 16:01:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 842 @ 0.00627403 = 5.2827 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00627404 = 5.3329 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639156 = 6.3916 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00639157 = 3.1958 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00639157 = 3.1958 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639158 = 6.3916 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639999 = 6.4 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 17808 @ 0.0064 = 113.9712 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:02:22 <maximian>	a rare s.dice movement is spotted!
Feb 10 16:02:47 <Ukto>	just following my prediction heh
Feb 10 16:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Feb 10 16:03:59 <Ukto>	only 44k left un 0.007
Feb 10 16:05:31 <DeaDTerra>	Guess who it was ^^ surely it can't be me xD
Feb 10 16:06:48 *	Ukto pokes DeaDTerra
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Feb 10 16:06:53 <Ukto>	dont claim my whaleship :(
Feb 10 16:07:03 <Ukto>	was my btc yo
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Feb 10 16:08:19 <Ukto>	oh snap
Feb 10 16:08:21 <Ukto>	there he is
Feb 10 16:08:28 <Ukto>	Now you can tell him to his face.
Feb 10 16:08:45 <Ukto>	>,>
Feb 10 16:09:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00062378 = 7.3606 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:09:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 928 @ 0.00063409 = 0.5884 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 16:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5377 @ 0.00062354 = 3.3528 BTC [-]
Feb 10 16:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062003 = 0.62 BTC [-]
Feb 10 16:10:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7536 @ 0.00062002 = 4.6725 BTC [-]
Feb 10 16:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1487 @ 0.00061951 = 0.9212 BTC [-]
Feb 10 16:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14056 @ 0.00061951 = 8.7078 BTC [-]
Feb 10 16:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7144 @ 0.0006192 = 4.4236 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 16:11:31 <error4733>	camo ?
Feb 10 16:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	whaleship lmao
Feb 10 16:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	i spent like 10 bux on dried prunes. these things are delicious i swear.
Feb 10 16:14:23 <Ukto>	doesnt sound like it. :P
Feb 10 16:14:24 <Ukto>	afk
Feb 10 16:14:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00062079 = 4.0351 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:14:39 <Namworld>	Anyone got S.BBET for sale?
Feb 10 16:14:54 <error4733>	you forgot "for cheap"
Feb 10 16:15:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0064 = 0.0192 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:15:26 <mod6>	isn't 159900 a sale?
Feb 10 16:15:26 <Namworld>	No need for it to be cheap
Feb 10 16:15:48 <mod6>	its an ask at least. go nuts :)
Feb 10 16:15:48 <Namworld>	nope... people were exiting as low as 30000 not long ago
Feb 10 16:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74 @ 0.00062079 = 0.0459 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4990 @ 0.00063409 = 3.1641 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5402 @ 0.00063466 = 3.4284 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:16:07 <Namworld>	159900 is ridiculously expensive
Feb 10 16:16:18 <mod6>	lol then put up a bid for god sake
Feb 10 16:16:49 <mod6>	s/god//
Feb 10 16:16:50 <Namworld>	I put bids for fuck sake
Feb 10 16:17:02 <Namworld>	Why can't I ask?
Feb 10 16:17:40 <mod6>	ask all you like
Feb 10 16:17:49 <mod6>	*shrug*
Feb 10 16:18:26 <Namworld>	just checking how much people want
Feb 10 16:18:27 <jurov>	maybe someone can lend you (i can't, don't have any)
Feb 10 16:18:36 <jurov>	ask smickles
Feb 10 16:19:00 <jurov>	if you're so firmly convinced it's overpriced
Feb 10 16:19:36 <mod6>	!ticker m s.bbet
Feb 10 16:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0003 / 0.00091228 / 0.0015999 (20800 shares, 18.98 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00144935 / 0.002 (369427 shares, 535.43 BTC)
Feb 10 16:19:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.0063 = 0.0189 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:19:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 318 @ 0.001599 = 0.5085 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:20:01 <mod6>	:]
Feb 10 16:20:22 <Namworld>	It is. Everyone was surprised it reached such high price
Feb 10 16:21:21 <mod6>	its a pretty big gap between .0015 and .0005, so you could bid anything in between and just see if you can get them discounted that way.
Feb 10 16:21:22 <jurov>	maybe....until whales discover it
Feb 10 16:21:31 <mircea_popescu>	it's a humomgo gap srsly.
Feb 10 16:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	looks almost like mmorpg store pricing
Feb 10 16:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	"buy sword 1 gold, sell sword 8 gold"
Feb 10 16:22:02 <Ukto>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.BBET
Feb 10 16:22:05 <Ukto>	>,>
Feb 10 16:22:08 <Namworld>	Those fuckin merchants
Feb 10 16:22:53 <jurov>	;;calc 5000*0.001150
Feb 10 16:22:54 <gribble>	5.75
Feb 10 16:23:04 <mod6>	Looking at the statement for jan, it had like 206 accepted. that was pretty awesome for first mo. imho!
Feb 10 16:24:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 182 @ 0.001599 = 0.291 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:25:14 <jurov>	Ukto / DeaDTerra, where did the ask vanish?
Feb 10 16:25:29 <jurov>	almost snatched it
Feb 10 16:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't bad for 1st month at all.
Feb 10 16:26:09 <mod6>	march will have some good sporting ones for sure.
Feb 10 16:26:09 <Ukto>	?
Feb 10 16:26:13 <Ukto>	there is an ask up
Feb 10 16:26:35 <mod6>	college basketball etc..
Feb 10 16:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Feb 10 16:26:42 <jurov>	ukto, there was one for 0.001150 previously you scumbags
Feb 10 16:26:50 <Ukto>	0,o
Feb 10 16:26:53 <Ukto>	dont look at me
Feb 10 16:27:05 <Ukto>	i am not pulling the strings on that puppet
Feb 10 16:27:06 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 10 16:27:24 *	Ukto has a different collection
Feb 10 16:27:25 <Ukto>	lo
Feb 10 16:27:27 <Ukto>	l
Feb 10 16:27:33 <jurov>	now it's 0.001950 . screw DeaDTerra.
Feb 10 16:27:48 <jurov>	he really thinks someone will buy at such a price?
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Feb 10 16:28:03 <Ukto>	hmm
Feb 10 16:28:08 <mircea_popescu>	anything may happen on the passthroughs
Feb 10 16:28:11 <DeaDTerra>	look at MPEX the only part that has some volume is at that rate
Feb 10 16:28:13 <Ukto>	cant say I wouldnt try
Feb 10 16:28:25 <DeaDTerra>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET
Feb 10 16:28:33 <jurov>	you!
Feb 10 16:29:05 <mod6>	oh I also saw that some guy put a sharpie in his ass for like 10 BTC
Feb 10 16:29:24 <mod6>	i just about died -- it was pretty gnarly.
Feb 10 16:29:28 <jurov>	pfft. i'm withdrawing from bf and going elsewhere atm.
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Feb 10 16:29:40 <Ukto>	gj terra
Feb 10 16:29:41 <mod6>	i didn't expect balls when i opened the blog post for whatever reason lol
Feb 10 16:29:54 <mod6>	:3
Feb 10 16:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 btc rules.
Feb 10 16:30:17 <mod6>	haha, indeed sir.
Feb 10 16:30:36 <DeaDTerra>	Jurov, go a head it's a free market :)
Feb 10 16:30:54 <mircea_popescu>	jurov moving to havelock ?
Feb 10 16:31:01 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 10 16:31:16 <jurov>	DeaDTerra i'll send eskimobob  for you! such manipulation!
Feb 10 16:31:22 <Ukto>	LOL
Feb 10 16:31:29 <Ukto>	dood, thats too much
Feb 10 16:31:29 <DeaDTerra>	pff
Feb 10 16:31:38 <Ukto>	dont make horrid threats like that
Feb 10 16:31:39 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 10 16:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	wait was it usagi who hired eskimo to threadcrap and didn't pay them or was it the other way around ?
Feb 10 16:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	or no wait, they hired someone else ?
Feb 10 16:32:34 <PsychoticBoy>	some ppl even sell their mom for btc
Feb 10 16:32:49 <Ukto>	PsychoticBoy: i got one, how much?
Feb 10 16:32:50 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 10 16:32:53 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Feb 10 16:33:05 <Ukto>	i figure i can buy her back cheaper later
Feb 10 16:33:09 <Ukto>	>:P~
Feb 10 16:33:24 <jurov>	in fact i did more serious pricing typos myself when idiff launched... but 0.001150 seemed like completely reasonable lauch discount
Feb 10 16:34:41 <jurov>	water under bridge. good luck deadTerra.
Feb 10 16:36:00 <error4733>	link for the bbet result ?
Feb 10 16:36:31 <Ukto>	on BF?
Feb 10 16:36:32 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 10 16:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/bitbet-january-2013-statement
Feb 10 16:36:38 <Ukto>	shh
Feb 10 16:36:41 <error4733>	thank mp
Feb 10 16:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	my pleasure
Feb 10 16:37:54 <mircea_popescu>	cause i'm perverted like that.
Feb 10 16:38:32 <jurov>	mircea_popescu at least you don't offer your mother for shorting (or you do?)
Feb 10 16:38:51 <mircea_popescu>	my mother is tall, like me.
Feb 10 16:38:56 <Ukto>	---
Feb 10 16:38:58 <Ukto>	-_-
Feb 10 16:39:00 <Ukto>	afk, bed
Feb 10 16:39:04 <error4733>	i miss something ? or bbet made a wonderful 6 btc profit ?
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Feb 10 16:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 about there.
Feb 10 16:39:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0099 = 0.0198 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:39:46 <Namworld>	BBET made a 6 BTC profit
Feb 10 16:39:55 <error4733>	6.8 sry
Feb 10 16:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.0064 = 6.72 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:40:15 <error4733>	so ffs why do you want buy some
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Feb 10 16:41:13 <Namworld>	I want more at a reasonable price
Feb 10 16:41:40 <Namworld>	at current 50000 bid, would take 735 months with such monthly profits
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Feb 10 16:42:04 <error4733>	still better than BFL
Feb 10 16:42:19 <Namworld>	Still needs to be reduced by a factor 10
Feb 10 16:42:50 <ThickAsThieves>	bbet needs someone creating interesting bets more often
Feb 10 16:43:08 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think most people wanna create a bet
Feb 10 16:43:13 <ThickAsThieves>	so much as chime in on one
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Feb 10 16:43:35 <ThickAsThieves>	when I surf it now, i'm like meh
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Feb 10 16:43:46 <mod6>	and a twitter feed on new bets maybe?! :D
Feb 10 16:43:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062313 = 3.3026 BTC [-]
Feb 10 16:43:59 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: your auction thread
Feb 10 16:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 if you look through it, it took ~1600 btc in bets and the profits are only on the 400 closed in jan
Feb 10 16:44:07 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: post in it how much time is left to spook more bids
Feb 10 16:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	in the ~week since then it took another 800 or so
Feb 10 16:44:15 <Namworld>	I told mircea, make it automated that sporting event gets bet
Feb 10 16:44:20 <mircea_popescu>	so it has some potential of revenue
Feb 10 16:44:32 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i'd so much rather have people promote selected events themselves
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Feb 10 16:45:05 <ThickAsThieves>	whats the most popular "real" betting site?
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Feb 10 16:45:54 <pigeons>	etrade.com
Feb 10 16:46:21 <error4733>	depend your country
Feb 10 16:46:53 <ThickAsThieves>	oh i thought it was bet.com, thx pigeons
Feb 10 16:47:23 <error4733>	bwin n1 in EU
Feb 10 16:47:40 <pigeons>	treasury.gov
Feb 10 16:48:11 <mircea_popescu>	actually i would guess that may be a decent way to earn a btc.
Feb 10 16:48:33 <error4733>	yes if you know some people from honk hong
Feb 10 16:48:43 <error4733>	8M euro
Feb 10 16:48:44 <pigeons>	honkies
Feb 10 16:48:54 <error4733>	earning
Feb 10 16:48:55 <Namworld>	mircea, would be better with categories, would require op tho
Feb 10 16:49:23 <error4733>	the cops here just stop a big mafia on football
Feb 10 16:49:33 <error4733>	400 match
Feb 10 16:49:46 <ThickAsThieves>	it also looks bad when so many bets are for .01 btc
Feb 10 16:49:47 <Namworld>	It could automatically create a bet for each match in certain sports and automatically attribute the winnings
Feb 10 16:50:07 <ThickAsThieves>	need a bitbet "whale"
Feb 10 16:50:13 <ThickAsThieves>	or "fluffer"
Feb 10 16:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	there's bets of 100s of btc
Feb 10 16:50:26 <mircea_popescu>	buncha in the double digit range too
Feb 10 16:50:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i know, but many seem to be tiny
Feb 10 16:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	well yeah
Feb 10 16:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	nature of the beast i guess, most people bet small.
Feb 10 16:50:59 <mod6>	but, see, .01 is a lot!! that 1 million satoshi
Feb 10 16:51:01 <Namworld>	and people would have categories such as NFL, NHL, etc
Feb 10 16:51:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not complaining, just thinking about user perspective
Feb 10 16:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld you could do it automatically, but i'd much rather people did it.
Feb 10 16:51:32 <ThickAsThieves>	def need better category filtering
Feb 10 16:51:37 <Namworld>	Seems like it would work better with categories and automated system
Feb 10 16:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	prolly need better categories sure
Feb 10 16:53:52 <Namworld>	Might be a bit hard to find what you want otherwise
Feb 10 16:54:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 7 @ 0.56 = 3.92 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	tho the search works so in effect any word can be a category
Feb 10 16:55:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 42 @ 0.0064 = 0.2688 BTC [+]
Feb 10 16:55:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i bet against Mila Kunis winning FHM
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Feb 10 17:06:04 <jurov>	the green hurts
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Feb 10 17:10:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639999 = 6.4 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 17:10:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.0064 = 21.12 BTC [+]
Feb 10 17:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 10 17:11:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.85001, Best ask: 23.89900, Bid-ask spread: 0.04899, Last trade: 23.85001, 24 hour volume: 53676.15792582, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.99800, 24 hour vwap: 23.38993
Feb 10 17:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 23.38993 / 4
Feb 10 17:11:07 <gribble>	5.8474825
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Feb 10 17:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1709 @ 0.00063466 = 1.0846 BTC [+]
Feb 10 17:11:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00063534 = 2.9226 BTC [+]
Feb 10 17:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7671 @ 0.00063578 = 4.8771 BTC [+]
Feb 10 17:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00063701 = 2.9302 BTC [+]
Feb 10 17:11:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 820 @ 0.00063737 = 0.5226 BTC [+]
Feb 10 17:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3441 @ 0.00062569 = 2.153 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 17:18:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 42 @ 0.0063 = 0.2646 BTC [+]
Feb 10 17:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1065 @ 0.00062569 = 0.6664 BTC [-]
Feb 10 17:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 868 @ 0.00062314 = 0.5409 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 17:20:00 <Namworld>	Still 4 BTC to be distributed on BTC-BOND, one per day, by the way
Feb 10 17:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9132 @ 0.00062314 = 5.6905 BTC [-]
Feb 10 17:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6168 @ 0.00062313 = 3.8435 BTC [-]
Feb 10 17:22:07 <jurov>	not just s.bbet. s.dice looks silly now, too
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Feb 10 17:24:10 <Bugpower>	2444444444
Feb 10 17:25:43 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 10 17:25:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.81178, Best ask: 23.99894, Bid-ask spread: 0.18716, Last trade: 23.81178, 24 hour volume: 54088.59621120, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.00000, 24 hour vwap: 23.39639
Feb 10 17:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	haha almost there.
Feb 10 17:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	and calls STILL Aren't selling much.
Feb 10 17:27:22 <Bugpower>	yeah
Feb 10 17:27:32 <Bugpower>	I gotta price mine over yours for a bit
Feb 10 17:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2382 @ 0.00062313 = 1.4843 BTC [-]
Feb 10 17:27:41 <Bugpower>	don't want to sellf
Feb 10 17:29:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0064 BTC [+]
Feb 10 17:30:19 <Namworld>	Eventually, eventually. When I have the money
Feb 10 17:31:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [+]
Feb 10 17:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6490 @ 0.00062163 = 4.0344 BTC [-]
Feb 10 17:32:38 <jurov>	i'd buy something like C200N but...0.43BTC?
Feb 10 17:33:24 <Namworld>	that expensive?
Feb 10 17:33:59 <Namworld>	ouchies
Feb 10 17:34:12 <jurov>	yes. needs btcusd to go over 35
Feb 10 17:34:19 <mod6>	well, forward months are usually a little more
Feb 10 17:34:25 <jurov>	*a little*
Feb 10 17:34:32 <mod6>	heheh
Feb 10 17:35:05 <mircea_popescu>	im sure it was cheaper two weeks ago, when the btcusd was still 15ish
Feb 10 17:35:20 <Namworld>	lol
Feb 10 17:35:29 <jurov>	point taken
Feb 10 17:36:03 <error4733>	24
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Feb 10 17:36:29 <mod6>	;;ticker
Feb 10 17:36:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.98705, Best ask: 24.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01295, Last trade: 24.00000, 24 hour volume: 54422.54900535, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.00000, 24 hour vwap: 23.40115
Feb 10 17:36:53 <jurov>	C300N turns profitable at btcusd=41.6 O.o
Feb 10 17:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	could happen till end of march ?
Feb 10 17:37:41 <jurov>	why C300N and C350N sell at the same price?
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Feb 10 17:38:44 <mod6>	the curve flattens the more otm they are
Feb 10 17:39:10 <Namworld>	because there's a standard minimum price and so far out of market price...
Feb 10 17:39:17 <Namworld>	well they're all at minimum price
Feb 10 17:39:29 <Namworld>	if there was no minimum, C350N would be cheaper I guess
Feb 10 17:40:24 <jurov>	;;calc 35/24
Feb 10 17:40:24 <gribble>	1.45833333333
Feb 10 17:40:48 <jurov>	far? it's only 46% over current price
Feb 10 17:41:14 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Feb 10 17:41:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.04004, Best ask: 24.04281, Bid-ask spread: 0.00277, Last trade: 24.04004, 24 hour volume: 54796.84225547, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.04004, 24 hour vwap: 23.40587
Feb 10 17:41:20 <Namworld>	BAM
Feb 10 17:41:22 <Namworld>	over 24
Feb 10 17:42:28 <Namworld>	We're still going strong
Feb 10 17:43:36 <jurov>	;;asks 23.5
Feb 10 17:43:38 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 23.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Feb 10 17:43:40 <PsychoticBoy>	here comes my retirement
Feb 10 17:43:41 <jurov>	;;asks 24.5
Feb 10 17:43:43 <gribble>	There are currently 4618.2439 bitcoins offered at or under 24.5 USD, worth 112289.956161 USD in total.
Feb 10 17:43:52 <PsychoticBoy>	on a age of 29
Feb 10 17:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	actually the calls out 6 weeks show LESS price variation than has happened the past 3 weeks
Feb 10 17:44:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.0006192 = 0.805 BTC [-]
Feb 10 17:44:23 <mircea_popescu>	i'd say they're kinda cheap.
Feb 10 17:44:57 <PsychoticBoy>	when btc hits 35$ I sell all and do things I love like sleep, fuck, travel etc
Feb 10 17:45:16 <Lyspooner>	why aren't you doing those things now
Feb 10 17:45:20 <Bugpower>	lol
Feb 10 17:45:20 <Bugpower>	lol
Feb 10 17:45:21 <Bugpower>	lol
Feb 10 17:45:29 <Namworld>	lol, how many you got PsychoticBoy?
Feb 10 17:45:45 <jurov>	haha... i consider half-retired since 29 (paid off my flat) and slowly getting there
Feb 10 17:45:46 <Namworld>	To stop everything at 35 per
Feb 10 17:46:00 <PsychoticBoy>	a lot :D
Feb 10 17:46:27 <PsychoticBoy>	lost much in the glbse fiasco and pirate but hey I am still alive
Feb 10 17:46:39 <jurov>	it's better to retire gradually than abruptly
Feb 10 17:46:45 <jurov>	imho
Feb 10 17:46:49 <PsychoticBoy>	probably would
Feb 10 17:46:50 <Namworld>	Well pirate was a bad idea
Feb 10 17:47:19 <PsychoticBoy>	yep, who would have thought ;)
Feb 10 17:47:43 <PsychoticBoy>	I hoped it last longer but I was ...
Feb 10 17:47:51 <jurov>	greedy?
Feb 10 17:48:29 <PsychoticBoy>	yup back then indeed but now I learned that I have to be happy with what I got
Feb 10 17:48:50 <PsychoticBoy>	but 7% a week was good :D
Feb 10 17:49:14 <jurov>	um, still 2k ask wall at 24 at bitstamp.. anyone doing arb?
Feb 10 17:49:29 <Namworld>	I wish
Feb 10 17:49:37 <Namworld>	I got no convenient way to move fiat around
Feb 10 17:50:31 <jurov>	got an idea wrt bitstamp and am pestering Ukto with it.. we'll see. but he's busy now with other things
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Feb 10 17:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	"And thanks for being pleasant, MPOE-PR."
Feb 10 17:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	what are my eyes reading
Feb 10 17:55:45 <Bugpower>	REDDDDD
Feb 10 17:55:47 <Namworld>	sarcasm?
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Feb 10 17:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	this is failure on a colossal scale!
Feb 10 17:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6056 @ 0.0006192 = 3.7499 BTC [-]
Feb 10 17:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5094 @ 0.00061882 = 3.1523 BTC [-]
Feb 10 18:00:22 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: i think he meant peasant
Feb 10 18:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 10 18:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3256 @ 0.00061882 = 2.0149 BTC [-]
Feb 10 18:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00061876 = 5.507 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 18:00:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8812 @ 0.00061863 = 5.4514 BTC [-]
Feb 10 18:01:10 <Anduck>	OR
Feb 10 18:01:12 <Anduck>	he meant pheasant
Feb 10 18:01:16 <Anduck>	there's a lot possibilities
Feb 10 18:02:45 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 10 18:02:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00606903 / 0.00635803 / 0.0064 (34996 shares, 222.51 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00574395 / 0.007395 (4398275 shares, 25,263.48 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00554145 / 0.0075 (8548901 shares, 47,373.31 BTC)
Feb 10 18:03:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00061864 = 0.6186 BTC [+]
Feb 10 18:03:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1188 @ 0.00061863 = 0.7349 BTC [-]
Feb 10 18:03:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00061862 = 5.6913 BTC [-]
Feb 10 18:03:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00062163 = 0.3108 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 18:23:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00061862 = 3.8973 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 18:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8122 @ 0.00062163 = 5.0489 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 18:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3352 @ 0.00062399 = 2.0916 BTC [+]
Feb 10 18:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00061862 = 0.7114 BTC [-]
Feb 10 18:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00061858 = 5.7528 BTC [-]
Feb 10 18:37:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6679 @ 0.00061796 = 4.1274 BTC [-]
Feb 10 18:47:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+]
Feb 10 18:47:59 <jurov>	someone here sought for ripples? https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/15914-1000-xrp-ripples
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Feb 10 18:55:18 <mircea_popescu>	is that a new bottom for bitmit ?
Feb 10 18:56:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1494 BTC [+]
Feb 10 18:56:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1495 BTC [+]
Feb 10 18:56:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.1497 = 0.8982 BTC [+]
Feb 10 18:56:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.1498 = 0.749 BTC [+]
Feb 10 18:56:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 8 @ 0.151 = 1.208 BTC [+]
Feb 10 18:57:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00063334 = 13.3001 BTC [+]
Feb 10 18:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00063534 = 0.5083 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 19:01:31 <Namworld>	It looks like no more bids on ASICMINER going to happen
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Feb 10 19:06:49 <Bugpower>	yah no shit
Feb 10 19:06:58 <Bugpower>	shoulda taken the deal
Feb 10 19:07:12 <Bugpower>	before market flooded
Feb 10 19:07:46 <Namworld>	?
Feb 10 19:07:59 <Bugpower>	are people still going to pay 0.41?
Feb 10 19:08:18 <Namworld>	Well I already got the bids
Feb 10 19:08:31 <Namworld>	There's a reason the forum doesn't allow post deletion
Feb 10 19:08:39 <Bugpower>	do you think they will honor them now that there are 1000s of shares on market?
Feb 10 19:08:59 <Namworld>	All the shares on the market request 0.30 minimum...
Feb 10 19:09:07 <Namworld>	It was my actual reserve =/
Feb 10 19:09:19 <Namworld>	Seems no one wants to sell under .3
Feb 10 19:09:43 <Bugpower>	it was a good  idea to sell
Feb 10 19:10:07 <Namworld>	idk, maybe
Feb 10 19:10:36 <Namworld>	If friedcat keeps spamming more and more ASICs, could generate a lot in mining
Feb 10 19:10:56 <Namworld>	Although the profit from ASIC sales seems like the sweet deal.
Feb 10 19:12:18 <Namworld>	I'd like to have an idea of the power consumption and the cost to them to make boards
Feb 10 19:16:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.925 BTC [-]
Feb 10 19:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C230T] 915 @ 0.15315884 = 140.1403 BTC
Feb 10 19:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00063379 = 1.8063 BTC [-]
Feb 10 19:19:37 <Bugpower>	well
Feb 10 19:19:42 <Bugpower>	there go some calls
Feb 10 19:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10722 @ 0.00061922 = 6.6393 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 19:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	it can happen!
Feb 10 19:21:35 <Namworld>	you bought or sold?
Feb 10 19:21:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 50 @ 0.0099 = 0.495 BTC [+]
Feb 10 19:21:59 <Namworld>	By the look of it, it was an ask
Feb 10 19:23:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00063379 = 7.447 BTC [+]
Feb 10 19:23:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00063534 = 0.9848 BTC [+]
Feb 10 19:23:21 <Bugpower>	someone hit MPs ask
Feb 10 19:23:40 <Namworld>	not yours then
Feb 10 19:23:54 <Bugpower>	nope I am only buying into this shit
Feb 10 19:24:07 <Bugpower>	IV is huge right now
Feb 10 19:24:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15740 @ 0.00063534 = 10.0003 BTC [+]
Feb 10 19:24:47 <Bowjob>	So, is it worth getting mpex if you only have around 100 BTC to play around?
Feb 10 19:25:29 <Namworld>	To me it's always worth it. Later, it will only cost more.
Feb 10 19:26:05 <Bowjob>	The only thing I understand are the stocks, still clueless about options
Feb 10 19:26:09 <Bugpower>	I think ~300BTC
Feb 10 19:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob in general after a few k worth of total trade it's worth it
Feb 10 19:26:21 <Bowjob>	ah
Feb 10 19:26:50 <error4733>	minus 5 btc or 10 if your referer is kind
Feb 10 19:26:55 <Bugpower>	options straddle at 24 looks kinda juicy right now
Feb 10 19:27:00 <Bugpower>	Also
Feb 10 19:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	if you can do the sort of magic shit Bugpower does and extract 100% out of your btc in six weeks
Feb 10 19:27:18 <Bugpower>	you may have more BTC in the future
Feb 10 19:27:28 <Bugpower>	just wait
Feb 10 19:27:28 <mircea_popescu>	then putting in 60 btc means you'll be whole by spring.
Feb 10 19:27:36 <Bugpower>	till this OpEX
Feb 10 19:27:39 <Bugpower>	:)
Feb 10 19:27:46 <mircea_popescu>	hehehe
Feb 10 19:27:53 <Bowjob>	yeah, I'm aware an mpex account could exceed the cost of a nyse seat
Feb 10 19:27:55 <Bowjob>	^
Feb 10 19:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpower ya, haven't seen the ponzigraph in a while
Feb 10 19:28:30 <Bowjob>	Bug we started with the same capital.. what sort of voodoo are you doing?
Feb 10 19:28:44 <Bugpower>	Luck
Feb 10 19:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	he is stealing from the common man.
Feb 10 19:28:53 <Bugpower>	I was lucky to buy in at 2.65
Feb 10 19:28:54 <Bowjob>	I'd get slaughtered right now if I jump in right now
Feb 10 19:29:13 <Bugpower>	I was lucky to buy a shitload of calls before last opex
Feb 10 19:29:23 <Bugpower>	then reverse postion at the top
Feb 10 19:29:35 <Bowjob>	and that could backfire miserably, right?
Feb 10 19:29:37 <Bugpower>	and I was REALLY lucky to buy calls when it was at 17 today
Feb 10 19:29:43 <Bugpower>	not today
Feb 10 19:29:46 <Bugpower>	early this month
Feb 10 19:30:14 <Bugpower>	and i was STUPID to get partially flushed out on a brief dump on Monday?
Feb 10 19:30:30 <Bugpower>	so ponzi power is not where I would like it to be.
Feb 10 19:30:30 <mircea_popescu>	so how much are you ahead ?
Feb 10 19:30:37 <Bowjob>	a call is like a guarantee to buy bitcoins at a specific price, you just gotta pay a premium for that guarantee right?
Feb 10 19:30:40 <Bugpower>	from cost basis?
Feb 10 19:30:54 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Feb 10 19:30:56 <Bugpower>	From Dec 2011, up around 3000% USD
Feb 10 19:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	jolly.
Feb 10 19:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	dare i ask if early or late dec ?
Feb 10 19:31:16 <Bugpower>	they said it was for early adopters only
Feb 10 19:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob pretty much
Feb 10 19:31:24 <Bugpower>	let me check
Feb 10 19:32:54 <Bugpower>	Nov 29th
Feb 10 19:33:09 <Bowjob>	I told my boss about bitcoin when they reached 31 USD
Feb 10 19:33:22 <Bowjob>	we all know what happened there, good thing he didnt ask me the following days after
Feb 10 19:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	>D
Feb 10 19:33:31 <Bowjob>	*then
Feb 10 19:33:54 <Bowjob>	I thought it was done for. then months later, I saw it at 10 dollars, then 11, then 12
Feb 10 19:34:27 <Bowjob>	I got some at 13.29, then it's all gravy train all the way to 24
Feb 10 19:34:47 <Bugpower>	when it hit $2 I knew it was time to buy
Feb 10 19:35:01 <Bugpower>	I was lucky I didn't buy in the first bubble
Feb 10 19:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	i think bitcoin pretty much is divided among they who loaded up under 4 and they who did not.
Feb 10 19:35:15 <Bugpower>	wanted to buy at $7 on the first bubble
Feb 10 19:35:18 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpower i bought my first batch, 60 bitcoins, at 16 each.
Feb 10 19:35:20 <Bowjob>	heck when I logged in on my mt gox, I saw orders at 2 dollars
Feb 10 19:35:23 <Bugpower>	but never got around to it
Feb 10 19:35:23 <jurov>	lol i loaded at 5
Feb 10 19:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	recently, that went into green. took like 16 months.
Feb 10 19:35:39 <mircea_popescu>	i happen to not care that going from 16 to 24 took 16 months
Feb 10 19:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	jurov thus you fail. sorry!
Feb 10 19:36:42 <jurov>	:P
Feb 10 19:37:42 <jurov>	but i think mpex ipo participation got me back into game :DDD
Feb 10 19:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	ehehe im sure it did, that.
Feb 10 19:38:51 <mircea_popescu>	probably best investment in history of btc, esp for the people who got the shares at 2k satoshi
Feb 10 19:39:10 <Namworld>	I'll take some of that
Feb 10 19:39:38 <Namworld>	I keep hearing about interesting stuff late xP
Feb 10 19:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 10 19:42:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7010 @ 0.00063534 = 4.4537 BTC [+]
Feb 10 19:42:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13890 @ 0.0006354 = 8.8257 BTC [+]
Feb 10 19:45:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0212 BTC [-]
Feb 10 19:45:54 <jurov>	i just paid puny 1.55 btc for wordpress templates for quite sizable website
Feb 10 19:46:05 <jurov>	realized how much it's wort now
Feb 10 19:46:12 <jurov>	*worth
Feb 10 19:46:36 <BitHub>	i hope it wasn't wordpress.com?
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Feb 10 19:47:24 <jurov>	no, i ended up doing a site for nonprofit
Feb 10 19:47:26 <Bowjob>	someone's asking for a 1000 BTC 'loan' with the title "Impossible to pay you back"
Feb 10 19:47:49 <jurov>	and wamnted to use something mainstream so that any monkey can take it over
Feb 10 19:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob let me guess, btcjam ?
Feb 10 19:48:28 <Bowjob>	Nope, bitcointalk
Feb 10 19:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	not hyp enough for btcjam yet.
Feb 10 19:48:46 <Bowjob>	I'm not sure if trolling, or serious or stupid or both
Feb 10 19:49:01 <Bowjob>	erm, all three
Feb 10 19:49:02 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 10 19:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	troth
Feb 10 19:50:06 <mircea_popescu>	totally. i can see it
Feb 10 19:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	"not sure if stupid, trolling, intoxicated or troth"
Feb 10 19:53:12 <error4733>	he can provide bisness plan for serious enquiries
Feb 10 19:53:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0064 = 0.0128 BTC [+]
Feb 10 19:53:39 <error4733>	f** my english haha
Feb 10 19:54:11 <jurov>	error4733, but you imitated that style nicely
Feb 10 19:54:48 <Bowjob>	no business plans provided. it's the same dude who asked for 1200 BTC loan, then 350-400 BTC, then 1000 BTC.. oh and it's the same guy who called in 23.99 as the top for 2013
Feb 10 19:55:03 <Bowjob>	I offered him the opportunity to short the coins, but declined.
Feb 10 19:55:43 <BitHub>	error4733 what is it?
Feb 10 19:56:47 <error4733>	i'm not serious so idk
Feb 10 20:00:20 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 10 20:00:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.91002, Best ask: 23.99997, Bid-ask spread: 0.08995, Last trade: 23.99998, 24 hour volume: 56718.38842089, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.11000, 24 hour vwap: 23.42452
Feb 10 20:04:18 <Namworld>	You know, the thread title might have been changed by a moderator... I could easily see that happening
Feb 10 20:04:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Feb 10 20:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00063207 = 4.8985 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 20:08:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0063 = 0.0126 BTC [+]
Feb 10 20:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	aite well, take it ezzy all.
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Feb 10 20:14:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0064 BTC [+]
Feb 10 20:16:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00062107 = 0.3105 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:16:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8635 @ 0.00062106 = 5.3629 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 20:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1697 @ 0.00061922 = 1.0508 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00061797 = 0.618 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:16:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2026 @ 0.00061796 = 1.252 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12153 @ 0.00061761 = 7.5058 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00061732 = 6.1732 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12789 @ 0.00061731 = 7.8948 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 20:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00062332 = 5.0801 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 20:27:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.0006243 = 5.088 BTC [+]
Feb 10 20:28:08 <DeadWeasel>	penny bot is alternating?! are there two?
Feb 10 20:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00061943 = 8.3004 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:38:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.305 = 0.61 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00061943 = 6.1324 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:38:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00063069 = 12.9291 BTC [+]
Feb 10 20:38:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 20:51:16 <mjr_>	has anyone used camp bx?
Feb 10 20:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00638498 = 27.1362 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:53:45 <Bugpower>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 10 20:53:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061731 / 0.00062834 / 0.00065031 (2336247 shares, 1,467.97 BTC), 7D: 0.00061731 / 0.00067655 / 0.0007 (19241132 shares, 13,017.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066443 / 0.0007 (70856526 shares, 47,079.57 BTC)
Feb 10 20:54:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 20:57:13 <BitHub>	what you guys doing with your asicminer shares?
Feb 10 20:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.0006198 = 0.3099 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:57:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16961 @ 0.00061979 = 10.5123 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:58:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15684 @ 0.00061685 = 9.6747 BTC [-]
Feb 10 20:58:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22611 @ 0.00061731 = 13.958 BTC [+]
Feb 10 20:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00061673 = 7.1849 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:00:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.0007 = 0.0014 BTC
Feb 10 21:02:03 <mjr_>	what is the difference between the N options and the T options?
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Feb 10 21:03:58 <mjr_>	 ;;bc,24hprc
Feb 10 21:04:06 <mjr_>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 10 21:04:08 <gribble>	23.41
Feb 10 21:04:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00062134 = 10.3142 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4582 @ 0.00061641 = 2.8244 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00061932 = 12.758 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6744 @ 0.00061851 = 4.1712 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9856 @ 0.00061982 = 6.1089 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1174 @ 0.00061641 = 0.7237 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20052 @ 0.0006164 = 12.3601 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:23:20 <mjr_>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 10 21:23:21 <gribble>	23.41
Feb 10 21:28:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:28:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.006 = 0.06 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:29:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.01 = 0.06 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 21:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00061982 = 5.6714 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 21:38:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94 @ 0.00061982 = 0.0583 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9011 @ 0.00062134 = 5.5989 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1395 @ 0.00063069 = 0.8798 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:41:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3755 @ 0.00063069 = 2.3682 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8607 @ 0.00063198 = 5.4395 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:43:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00063198 = 2.6859 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062623 = 4.5089 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:52:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.0063 = 0.0567 BTC [+]
Feb 10 21:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5727 @ 0.00061652 = 3.5308 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00061642 = 0.3082 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:55:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5048 @ 0.0006164 = 3.1116 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:55:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3901 @ 0.00061619 = 2.4038 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00061606 = 1.5402 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6718 @ 0.00061603 = 4.1385 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7073 @ 0.00061598 = 4.3568 BTC [-]
Feb 10 21:56:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2983 @ 0.00061592 = 1.8373 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 22:09:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00061593 = 0.308 BTC [+]
Feb 10 22:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00061592 = 2.0941 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 22:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00061592 = 7.699 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 22:19:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00061592 = 3.172 BTC [-]
Feb 10 22:22:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00062335 = 12.5605 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 22:26:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062335 = 3.7401 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 22:29:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 855 @ 0.00062343 = 0.533 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 22:33:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4845 @ 0.00062343 = 3.0205 BTC [+]
Feb 10 22:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 355 @ 0.00061592 = 0.2187 BTC [-]
Feb 10 22:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00061592 = 8.4997 BTC [-]
Feb 10 22:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9943 @ 0.00063198 = 6.2838 BTC [+]
Feb 10 22:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2707 @ 0.00063526 = 1.7196 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 22:46:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00061592 = 3.8495 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 22:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00061592 = 6.6519 BTC [-]
Feb 10 22:54:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9293 @ 0.00063526 = 5.9035 BTC [+]
Feb 10 22:54:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6960 @ 0.0006354 = 4.4224 BTC [+]
Feb 10 22:54:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10947 @ 0.00063546 = 6.9564 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 23:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00061986 = 0.6199 BTC [-]
Feb 10 23:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10033 @ 0.00061985 = 6.219 BTC [-]
Feb 10 23:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00063276 = 4.9355 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 23:22:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8284 @ 0.00062647 = 5.1897 BTC [-]
Feb 10 23:22:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.01 = 0.07 BTC [+]
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Feb 10 23:24:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00063276 = 8.3524 BTC [+]
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**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 10 23:36:31 2013

Feb 10 23:36:31 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Feb 10 23:36:31 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades
Feb 10 23:36:31 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 12:40:09 2012
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Feb 10 23:48:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2866 @ 0.00062647 = 1.7955 BTC [-]
Feb 10 23:48:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6667 @ 0.00061985 = 4.1325 BTC [-]
Feb 10 23:48:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4065 @ 0.00061592 = 2.5037 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 23:52:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00061592 = 2.7716 BTC [-]
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Feb 10 23:55:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00061592 = 10.2243 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 00:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00063276 = 0.0063 BTC [+]
Feb 11 00:00:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15440 @ 0.00063381 = 9.786 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 00:25:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10543 @ 0.00062695 = 6.6099 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 00:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3132 @ 0.00061701 = 1.9325 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 00:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 485 @ 0.00062695 = 0.3041 BTC [+]
Feb 11 00:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 801 @ 0.00063237 = 0.5065 BTC [+]
Feb 11 00:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7968 @ 0.00061701 = 4.9163 BTC [-]
Feb 11 00:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 732 @ 0.00061602 = 0.4509 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 01:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16551 @ 0.00062895 = 10.4098 BTC [+]
Feb 11 01:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00062895 = 2.6416 BTC [+]
Feb 11 01:10:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21368 @ 0.00061602 = 13.1631 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:10:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4632 @ 0.00061543 = 2.8507 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149 @ 0.00062895 = 0.0937 BTC [+]
Feb 11 01:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8072 @ 0.00063211 = 5.1024 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 01:19:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6922 @ 0.00063232 = 4.3769 BTC [+]
Feb 11 01:20:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1707 @ 0.00063232 = 1.0794 BTC [+]
Feb 11 01:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00061947 = 6.0708 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8768 @ 0.00061543 = 5.3961 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 925 @ 0.0006153 = 0.5692 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11949 @ 0.00063237 = 7.5562 BTC [+]
Feb 11 01:29:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5410 @ 0.00063381 = 3.4289 BTC [+]
Feb 11 01:29:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1341 @ 0.00063525 = 0.8519 BTC [+]
Feb 11 01:38:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1222 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:38:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1221 = 0.2442 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:38:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.121 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:38:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 36 @ 0.1208 = 4.3488 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:39:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9519 @ 0.00062892 = 5.9867 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:40:17 <Bowjob>	can someone please trade dice. its frozen for quite a while
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Feb 11 01:44:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3895 @ 0.00063217 = 2.4623 BTC [+]
Feb 11 01:45:38 *	Pasha is now known as Cory
Feb 11 01:48:05 <Bowjob>	dice
Feb 11 01:51:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00062225 = 5.4758 BTC [-]
Feb 11 01:51:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.07 BTC [+]
Feb 11 01:53:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.07 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6587 @ 0.00061872 = 4.0755 BTC [-]
Feb 11 02:14:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00061872 = 1.949 BTC [-]
Feb 11 02:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18163 @ 0.00061968 = 11.2552 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 02:24:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6770 @ 0.00061968 = 4.1952 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:24:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5910 @ 0.00062225 = 3.6775 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00063322 = 2.058 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:30:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00623002 = 3.115 BTC [-]
Feb 11 02:30:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00623001 = 5.607 BTC [-]
Feb 11 02:33:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2281 @ 0.00063322 = 1.4444 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00063525 = 5.7173 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:33:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.0007 BTC
Feb 11 02:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4819 @ 0.00063546 = 3.0623 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:36:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8034 @ 0.00063546 = 5.1053 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:36:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4866 @ 0.00063601 = 3.0948 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:37:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.71999 BTC [-]
Feb 11 02:38:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.72 = 2.16 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:39:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:40:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.74 = 2.96 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 02:42:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063056 = 0.6306 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 02:46:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00063056 = 1.8286 BTC [-]
Feb 11 02:48:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:48:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.765 = 1.53 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:49:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20031 @ 0.00063287 = 12.677 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00063287 = 2.7213 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:54:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.07 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Feb 11 02:55:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.07 = 0.28 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 02:58:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21110 @ 0.00063287 = 13.3599 BTC [+]
Feb 11 03:01:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.0099 = 0.0396 BTC [+]
Feb 11 03:03:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3409 @ 0.00063287 = 2.1575 BTC [+]
Feb 11 03:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 684 @ 0.00063601 = 0.435 BTC [+]
Feb 11 03:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7607 @ 0.00063624 = 4.8399 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 03:15:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00063502 = 6.8582 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:15:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6293 @ 0.00063624 = 4.0039 BTC [+]
Feb 11 03:15:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40350 @ 0.00063642 = 25.6795 BTC [+]
Feb 11 03:15:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12381 @ 0.00063675 = 7.8836 BTC [+]
Feb 11 03:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6340 @ 0.00063676 = 4.0371 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 03:19:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00063676 = 10.22 BTC [+]
Feb 11 03:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4520 @ 0.00063056 = 2.8501 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4720 @ 0.00062523 = 2.9511 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00062523 = 1.2505 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:39:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6752 @ 0.00062523 = 4.2216 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12662 @ 0.00062257 = 7.883 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:39:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3036 @ 0.00061872 = 1.8784 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 03:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11297 @ 0.00061872 = 6.9897 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:46:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0096 = 0.96 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:46:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0095 = 0.95 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:51:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1430 @ 0.00061872 = 0.8848 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:51:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00061757 = 10.684 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:51:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00061708 = 3.0854 BTC [-]
Feb 11 03:52:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 554 @ 0.00061539 = 0.3409 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 04:10:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5888 @ 0.00063224 = 3.7226 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 04:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7146 @ 0.00061539 = 4.3976 BTC [-]
Feb 11 04:17:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1654 @ 0.0006153 = 1.0177 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 04:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00062683 = 5.5474 BTC [+]
Feb 11 04:38:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00063224 = 5.8482 BTC [+]
Feb 11 04:49:21 <jurov>	hi all
Feb 11 04:49:36 <jurov>	mjr_ N options expire next month, T ones this month
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Feb 11 05:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00062818 = 15.893 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 05:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5829 @ 0.00062818 = 3.6617 BTC [-]
Feb 11 05:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 568 @ 0.00063224 = 0.3591 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 05:20:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30394 @ 0.00063224 = 19.2163 BTC [+]
Feb 11 05:20:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.0006345 = 5.3615 BTC [+]
Feb 11 05:20:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6610 @ 0.00063676 = 4.209 BTC [+]
Feb 11 05:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0006369 = 4.4265 BTC [+]
Feb 11 05:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4609 @ 0.00063737 = 2.9376 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 05:23:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00062734 = 5.1442 BTC [-]
Feb 11 05:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell evoorhees https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142395.msg1518588 that sounds like its worth looking into
Feb 11 05:24:08 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Feb 11 05:29:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00062734 = 1.3488 BTC [-]
Feb 11 05:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9177 @ 0.00062729 = 5.7566 BTC [-]
Feb 11 05:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13421 @ 0.00063737 = 8.5541 BTC [+]
Feb 11 05:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3179 @ 0.00063801 = 2.0282 BTC [+]
Feb 11 05:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1271 @ 0.00063801 = 0.8109 BTC [+]
Feb 11 05:44:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10979 @ 0.00063804 = 7.005 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 05:48:36 <jurov>	;;bc,tslb
Feb 11 05:48:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2284 @ 0.00063804 = 1.4573 BTC [+]
Feb 11 05:48:36 <gribble>	Time since last block: 50 minutes and 6 seconds
Feb 11 05:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8366 @ 0.00063884 = 5.3445 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 05:49:27 <BitHub>	anybody personally selling any assets?
Feb 11 05:49:43 <BitHub>	shares into asic rigs? avalons etc
Feb 11 05:50:36 <jurov>	BitHub, aren't you interested in difficulty futures perhaps?
Feb 11 05:51:40 <leotreasure>	jurov: how do you buy difficulty futures?
Feb 11 05:51:58 <jurov>	i mostly issue them :)
Feb 11 05:52:17 <leotreasure>	cool! i should get some
Feb 11 05:52:25 <jurov>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-E
Feb 11 05:52:31 <jurov>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-O
Feb 11 05:52:41 <BitHub>	can you explain what they are a bit more?
Feb 11 05:52:44 <BitHub>	sorry to be n00b
Feb 11 05:53:01 <jurov>	1. you buy them on whatever price they're offered
Feb 11 05:53:30 <jurov>	2. expiration date comes, it will be liquidated and you'll get back current difficulty in satoshi
Feb 11 05:54:02 <jurov>	so if it goes up to 4 million, you'll get 0.04 BTC/share
Feb 11 05:55:01 <jurov>	also shorting is posible if you expect difficulty to stagnate/go down
Feb 11 05:55:04 <BitHub>	where can i check the difficulty rating in real time?
Feb 11 05:55:26 <jurov>	http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/
Feb 11 05:55:30 <jurov>	;;bc,diff
Feb 11 05:55:30 <gribble>	3275464.5865656
Feb 11 05:55:34 <jurov>	^ also
Feb 11 05:55:49 <BitHub>	ahh
Feb 11 05:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.palookavillepost.com/2013/02/09/accused-gunman-christopher-dorner-issues-statement-its-not-me/
Feb 11 05:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty sweet.
Feb 11 05:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub i think namworld was selling asicminer shares
Feb 11 05:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	but on auction
Feb 11 05:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00063604 = 13.1342 BTC [-]
Feb 11 05:57:04 <BitHub>	i purchased some, got no idea if i own them or not tho
Feb 11 05:57:38 <jurov>	what do you mean?
Feb 11 05:57:59 <jurov>	it's more a contract, than something you own.
Feb 11 05:58:29 <jurov>	the contract says i promise to pay you according to diffculty on a set date
Feb 11 05:58:47 <BitHub>	sorry that was directed at mircea
Feb 11 05:59:04 <jurov>	ok :)
Feb 11 05:59:25 <BitHub>	so its like a bet? if you don't make that date you get nothing?
Feb 11 05:59:26 <leotreasure>	jurov what does the O and E mean?
Feb 11 05:59:40 <jurov>	-O odd months, -E even months settlement
Feb 11 06:00:07 <jurov>	so after -E expires, i'll create new one for april with the same name
Feb 11 06:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063349 = 1.5837 BTC [-]
Feb 11 06:00:31 <BitHub>	would you buy some futures leo?
Feb 11 06:03:48 <leotreasure>	i think so
Feb 11 06:03:52 <leotreasure>	probably next months
Feb 11 06:03:56 <jurov>	well, buy them only if you believe in asics
Feb 11 06:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub sorry, purchased what ?
Feb 11 06:04:09 <leotreasure>	i do believe in asics
Feb 11 06:04:11 <jurov>	i'm selling them, nuff said
Feb 11 06:04:21 <leotreasure>	i wear their socks and shoes too
Feb 11 06:04:42 <jurov>	you're welcome ;)
Feb 11 06:04:58 <leotreasure>	also
Feb 11 06:05:20 <BitHub>	asicminer shares
Feb 11 06:05:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.33832578 = 1.015 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub the ownership of asicminer shares is a little iffy, because there's no exchange/clearinghouse atm
Feb 11 06:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	if indeed their own system is ever deployed, and if indeed it actually works as expected, you probably have something
Feb 11 06:06:49 <BitHub>	probably
Feb 11 06:06:56 <BitHub>	or just got scammed
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Feb 11 06:07:10 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno what they're thinking, but anyway.
Feb 11 06:07:53 <jurov>	i advise against it, based on their not exactly stellar performance with managing bitvps asset
Feb 11 06:08:02 <mjr__>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 11 06:08:04 <gribble>	23.56
Feb 11 06:08:16 <jurov>	!ticker btct bitvps
Feb 11 06:08:18 <leotreasure>	http://leotreasure.com/asics1.jpg http://leotreasure.com/asics2.jpg
Feb 11 06:08:19 <assbot>	[BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC),  7D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Feb 11 06:08:29 <jurov>	^ nice
Feb 11 06:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 312 @ 0.00635294 = 1.9821 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:09:02 <mjr__>	hi all
Feb 11 06:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol zeitgeist
Feb 11 06:09:13 <jurov>	'ello
Feb 11 06:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	lmao bitcointalk noobs bitching at assbot's name
Feb 11 06:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	how can these people be so boring and live ?
Feb 11 06:09:50 <jurov>	lol leo
Feb 11 06:10:05 <leotreasure>	:)
Feb 11 06:10:12 <leotreasure>	they're coming march or april
Feb 11 06:10:51 <BitHub>	haha it's leotreasure's asic store
Feb 11 06:11:13 <mjr__>	so, i got the call with $17 strike expiring this month
Feb 11 06:11:53 <leotreasure>	nice
Feb 11 06:12:11 <mjr__>	from what i've calculated going off the 24 hour volume-weighted cross-exchange ratio, that i am in the money above 24.97095538, is that true?
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Feb 11 06:13:26 <mjr__>	i paid 0.33832578
Feb 11 06:14:20 <mjr__>	just checking my math
Feb 11 06:14:21 <jurov>	;;calc (24.971-17)/24.971
Feb 11 06:14:21 <gribble>	0.319210283929
Feb 11 06:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 6/20
Feb 11 06:14:23 <gribble>	0.3
Feb 11 06:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 7/20
Feb 11 06:14:26 <gribble>	0.35
Feb 11 06:14:35 <mircea_popescu>	ya somewhere between 23 and 24 you're itm
Feb 11 06:14:53 <mircea_popescu>	ow shit my bad
Feb 11 06:14:53 <mjr__>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 11 06:14:55 <gribble>	23.56
Feb 11 06:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov is right
Feb 11 06:15:31 <mjr__>	by the way, Jurov, coinbr has worked awesome, i have not had one problem so far
Feb 11 06:15:37 <mjr__>	which is more than i can say for coinbase
Feb 11 06:16:27 <jurov>	glad to hear!
Feb 11 06:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it/s time someone seeds jurov then
Feb 11 06:17:00 <jurov>	;;calc 17/(1-0.33)
Feb 11 06:17:00 <gribble>	25.3731343284
Feb 11 06:17:06 <mjr__>	yeah, i agree
Feb 11 06:17:13 <jurov>	^ your break even point
Feb 11 06:17:26 <jurov>	;;calc 17/(1-0.3383)
Feb 11 06:17:26 <gribble>	25.691400937
Feb 11 06:17:33 <jurov>	more precisely
Feb 11 06:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ eyah, save that formula somewhere. strike - (1 / what you paid) = break even point
Feb 11 06:17:45 <mjr__>	ah, you use the current trading price instead of the 24 hour cross-exchange average?
Feb 11 06:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	no, mpoe settles on the 24 hour vwap
Feb 11 06:18:55 <mjr__>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 11 06:18:56 <gribble>	23.56
Feb 11 06:19:01 <jurov>	anyway, looks like i'm going to be fully self-sufficient capital-wise, no need for seeding
Feb 11 06:19:05 <mjr__>	is that the vwap?
Feb 11 06:19:36 <jurov>	i'm rather on lookout for people who can get things done and can develop/manage non-core areas such as charts
Feb 11 06:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136058158521.jpg speraking of professional
Feb 11 06:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ yes indeed it is.
Feb 11 06:20:43 <mjr__>	so...just to see if i understand this right...
Feb 11 06:21:44 <mjr__>	what i paid is (0.33832578*23.56) + the strike of 17 = 24.97095538
Feb 11 06:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Feb 11 06:22:08 <mircea_popescu>	o you mean in dollars ?
Feb 11 06:22:11 <mjr__>	yes
Feb 11 06:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	or what do you mean
Feb 11 06:22:26 <mircea_popescu>	in dollars you paid 0.33832578 * whatever price was then
Feb 11 06:22:36 <mjr__>	ah ok
Feb 11 06:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	cause you did pay then
Feb 11 06:22:43 <mjr__>	that is why it is a little higher than that number
Feb 11 06:22:53 <mjr__>	it's fine either way
Feb 11 06:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	so yes, if you do fiat accoubnting your breakeven is much lower than if you do btc accounting
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Feb 11 06:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	say you buy calls strike 10 when btc is 20 for .7
Feb 11 06:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	cost you 200 dollars
Feb 11 06:23:26 <mjr__>	either way, i just want to be able to watch the price climb without being mad that i can't get in till friday
Feb 11 06:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	if btc goes to 25
Feb 11 06:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	hehe yeah. alternatively you can sell puts
Feb 11 06:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	that's much higher risk
Feb 11 06:24:25 <mjr__>	true, but no capital for collateral
Feb 11 06:24:34 <mjr__>	and yeah, i like calls
Feb 11 06:24:46 <mjr__>	once i have a large position, i may think about buying puts
Feb 11 06:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	calls are like, high chance of low loss, small chance of huge win
Feb 11 06:24:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00063349 = 0.2851 BTC [-]
Feb 11 06:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	short puts are like, equal chances of win/loss
Feb 11 06:24:57 <mjr__>	yes exactly
Feb 11 06:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	hey, the pope is resigning
Feb 11 06:25:24 <mjr__>	i like small definite cost, big (unlimited) payoff
Feb 11 06:25:47 <mjr__>	and also, psychologically, i will now be happy if they shoot up to $30
Feb 11 06:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	or 50 lol
Feb 11 06:25:58 <mjr__>	yeah true
Feb 11 06:26:17 <mjr__>	frustrating to not be able to get cash in there already
Feb 11 06:26:23 <mjr__>	speaking of which
Feb 11 06:26:29 <mjr__>	what do you think of camp bx?
Feb 11 06:27:02 <mjr__>	had horrible experience buying through coinbase, i just got the 1 btc i ordered on feb 2nd today
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Feb 11 06:27:17 <mjr__>	good online wallet, bad exchange so far as i can see
Feb 11 06:27:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8584 @ 0.00063884 = 5.4838 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00063899 = 4.2812 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9416 @ 0.00063973 = 6.0237 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ you might try bitcoin-central
Feb 11 06:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	a wait, you're in the us huh ?
Feb 11 06:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00063973 = 0.3199 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:29:17 <mjr__>	yeah
Feb 11 06:29:20 <mjr__>	it sucks
Feb 11 06:29:36 <mjr__>	i will try bitcoin local first, or maybe reach out to some friends in nyc
Feb 11 06:29:45 <mjr__>	i can't deal with the huge wait times
Feb 11 06:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	not being in the sepa zone is pretty sucky.
Feb 11 06:29:57 <mircea_popescu>	yurpeans get same day service with the frenchie folks.
Feb 11 06:30:02 <mjr__>	yeah
Feb 11 06:30:11 <mjr__>	coinbase takes 4 days i think
Feb 11 06:30:15 <mjr__>	for the transfer to go through
Feb 11 06:30:34 <mjr__>	bitfloor is supposed to have like same day transfer from online banking
Feb 11 06:30:53 <mjr__>	since they have an ING direct checking, if you have one, you can move money to their account same day
Feb 11 06:31:17 <mjr__>	the last assbot message was my order going through :)
Feb 11 06:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	hehe cool.
Feb 11 06:31:54 <jurov>	mjr_ why so rushed? yo could have placed limit order at lower price
Feb 11 06:32:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00635294 = 0.3176 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:32:25 <jurov>	that way i bought 40BTC worth of s.mpoe below 0.00062 this night
Feb 11 06:34:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9234 @ 0.00063973 = 5.9073 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1866 @ 0.00064045 = 1.1951 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:35:24 <mjr__>	options expire almost a week before month end this month
Feb 11 06:36:26 <jurov>	well, it's last friday midnight
Feb 11 06:36:51 <jurov>	not exactly the brightest idea , if you ask me
Feb 11 06:37:35 <jurov>	i think mp recognized that and set diff futures expiration in the middle of week instead
Feb 11 06:37:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10234 @ 0.00064045 = 6.5544 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:37:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4516 @ 0.00064071 = 2.8934 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:37:52 *	jurov bitching mode off
Feb 11 06:39:09 <jurov>	lunch, brb
Feb 11 06:40:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00064071 = 4.4529 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:41:26 <mjr__>	yeah i could have done limits
Feb 11 06:41:28 <mjr__>	and i plan on it
Feb 11 06:41:34 <mjr__>	but i figured i'd just get in
Feb 11 06:41:41 <mjr__>	i can't wait for the end of this month
Feb 11 06:41:50 <mjr__>	see how dividends go, and hopefully options are good
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Feb 11 06:42:54 <mjr__>	so no one has used camp bx? they have a pretty cool platform
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Feb 11 06:44:06 <mjr__>	allow hidden orders, dark pool
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Feb 11 06:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4534 @ 0.00064071 = 2.905 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 06:54:45 <Bowjob>	anyone wanna play street fighter iv for bitcoins'
Feb 11 06:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2167 @ 0.00064071 = 1.3884 BTC [+]
Feb 11 06:56:39 <BitHub>	street fighter :)
Feb 11 06:57:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 07:00:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 07:01:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.002 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 07:03:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1099 @ 0.00064071 = 0.7041 BTC [+]
Feb 11 07:03:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13101 @ 0.00063861 = 8.3664 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 07:06:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6348 @ 0.00063861 = 4.0539 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 07:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11901 @ 0.00063861 = 7.6001 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:21:57 <knotwork>	If you are pretty confident bitcoins are just going to generally keep going up and up, are options of much use, or are they generally mostly useful if you are uncertain thus want to hedge against your uncertainty?
Feb 11 07:21:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1140 @ 0.00063775 = 0.727 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00628703 = 4.4009 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:25:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8250 @ 0.00623001 = 51.3976 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1589 @ 0.00623 = 9.8995 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1989 @ 0.00621542 = 12.3625 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00610083 = 3.0504 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:25:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00610082 = 14.0319 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.0060723 = 6.3759 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.006 = 12 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:26:55 <EskimoBob>	damn, I am sick of this snow and frozen water and darkness. I want to play golf!
Feb 11 07:29:05 <jurov>	snow and frost here too...but also full sunshine :D
Feb 11 07:30:03 <EskimoBob>	5 months - 3 or was it 5  days with clear sky
Feb 11 07:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00063825 = 2.936 BTC [+]
Feb 11 07:33:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00580003 = 0.58 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:33:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15481 @ 0.0058 = 89.7898 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:33:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00570008 = 5.7001 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:33:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00556183 = 5.5618 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:40:45 <EskimoBob>	actually, I have plaid golf in a snow storm, wind speed was about 20 ms/s. OK, not really a storm but more like a gale
Feb 11 07:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00063825 = 0.8297 BTC [+]
Feb 11 07:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19460 @ 0.00063775 = 12.4106 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 07:41:20 <BitHub>	nice eskimo, do you have a handicap or just play for fun?
Feb 11 07:43:33 <Bowjob>	bithub wanna play sfiv
Feb 11 07:43:49 <Bowjob>	i have the best blanka around!
Feb 11 07:45:29 <EskimoBob>	BitHub: HCP
Feb 11 07:45:56 <EskimoBob>	14.something
Feb 11 07:47:09 <EskimoBob>	fixed me short game and it was no big deal ;)
Feb 11 07:49:03 <BitHub>	nice
Feb 11 07:49:21 <BitHub>	hoping to buy some custom fitted clubs this year
Feb 11 07:49:43 <Chaang-Noi>	lol at pope, i did not even know they could quit
Feb 11 07:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5190 @ 0.00063332 = 3.2869 BTC [-]
Feb 11 07:51:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 360 @ 0.00063615 = 0.229 BTC [+]
Feb 11 07:53:52 <truffles>	mustve screwed the wrong nun
Feb 11 07:54:01 <EskimoBob>	BitHub: Get blades
Feb 11 07:54:22 <BitHub>	yeah?
Feb 11 07:54:27 <BitHub>	was thinking to get ping irons
Feb 11 07:54:32 <EskimoBob>	I got my blades on second year and never looked back
Feb 11 07:54:36 <BitHub>	haven't heard of blades, sounds good tho haha
Feb 11 07:55:05 <EskimoBob>	BitHub blades are really thin and small and unforgiving - old school stuff
Feb 11 07:57:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7098 @ 0.00063615 = 4.5154 BTC [+]
Feb 11 07:57:53 <EskimoBob>	BitHub: if you have a chance, try to play with something like this: http://www.golfforallages.com/images/auc_7901-12-20.jpg
Feb 11 07:59:11 <EskimoBob>	really interesting experience
Feb 11 08:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7622 @ 0.00063615 = 4.8487 BTC [+]
Feb 11 08:03:54 <BitHub>	haha, pass
Feb 11 08:04:06 <BitHub>	its like playing with a 1iron every shot
Feb 11 08:05:42 <EskimoBob>	BitHub: and with a really flexible shaft
Feb 11 08:05:59 <Chaang-Noi>	;;market buy 25000
Feb 11 08:06:01 <gribble>	A market order to buy 25000 bitcoins right now would take 673080.6320 USD and would take the last price up to 31.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 26.9232 USD/BTC.
Feb 11 08:06:14 *	BitHub likes to take a firm grip of a flexible shaft
Feb 11 08:07:27 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: did your ninjas ever catch that pirateat40 character?
Feb 11 08:07:42 <EskimoBob>	Did you have him killed?
Feb 11 08:08:53 <Chaang-Noi>	we were active until the SEC made it clear they were doing their thing
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Feb 11 08:09:15 <Chaang-Noi>	and when i say we i mean myself and my lawyers, no one else wanted to join in.
Feb 11 08:09:47 <Chaang-Noi>	they waited for pirated to pay, and then either gave up or joined the SEC
Feb 11 08:11:35 <Chaang-Noi>	;;market buy 100000
Feb 11 08:11:36 <gribble>	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 69622.631 bitcoins, for a total of 16223006162626.1738 USD and take the price to 13370133701337.0000.
Feb 11 08:12:01 <Chaang-Noi>	wow, not even 100k for sale.
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Feb 11 08:17:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00063306 = 8.6729 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 08:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00063615 = 3.6261 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 08:36:11 <jurov>	everyone is harping about mtgox... meanwhile on bitstamp there are btc to be had at 23.70 still
Feb 11 08:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6720 @ 0.00063615 = 4.2749 BTC [+]
Feb 11 08:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6580 @ 0.0006368 = 4.1901 BTC [+]
Feb 11 08:37:07 <kakobreklaa>	i just sent a few k eurs to stamp :p
Feb 11 08:37:19 <kakobreklaa>	should be there in a few hours
Feb 11 08:38:12 <jurov>	yup
Feb 11 08:39:15 <EskimoBob>	kakobreklaa: can you get the EUR out of bitsamp of do you need to go trough same circus as in mtgox?
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Feb 11 08:39:30 <kakobreklaa>	no circus
Feb 11 08:39:56 <jurov>	EskimoBob, i usually get euros on next day, too
Feb 11 08:40:10 <EskimoBob>	SEPA?
Feb 11 08:40:13 <jurov>	yes
Feb 11 08:40:33 <EskimoBob>	damn, why do I even bother with mtgox any more. Thanks
Feb 11 08:41:39 *	EskimoBob kicks MagicalTux in the balls and thanks him for nothing (old Japanese tradition)
Feb 11 08:42:04 <Chaang-Noi>	im not sure why you bothered with mt gox lol
Feb 11 08:42:11 <jurov>	lol i'm raving about it like 5th time around here
Feb 11 08:42:12 <Chaang-Noi>	you must enjoy pain:)
Feb 11 08:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9636 @ 0.0006368 = 6.1362 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 08:45:24 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: no, I do not. So far I have sold my BTC for EUR differently.
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Feb 11 08:46:32 <EskimoBob>	one day i thought about MTGox and he has some pseudo AML BS going there
Feb 11 08:49:04 <kakobreklaa>	slovenia will grow larger!
Feb 11 08:49:35 <EskimoBob>	I just noticed, it's in Slovenia :(
Feb 11 08:49:47 <kakobreklaa>	y sad face
Feb 11 08:49:54 <EskimoBob>	that can not be good
Feb 11 08:49:58 <kakobreklaa>	cause?
Feb 11 08:50:11 <EskimoBob>	cause it's Slovenia
Feb 11 08:50:20 <kakobreklaa>	right.
Feb 11 08:50:23 <kakobreklaa>	you have no clue :)
Feb 11 08:51:45 <kakobreklaa>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141638.0
Feb 11 08:52:03 <kakobreklaa>	ah nvm this is old
Feb 11 08:52:07 <kakobreklaa>	apparently new to me
Feb 11 08:52:43 <EskimoBob>	OK, maybe Slovenia is not that bad
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Feb 11 08:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.0006368 = 14.0096 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 09:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5563 @ 0.0006368 = 3.5425 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 09:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3984 @ 0.00063306 = 2.5221 BTC [-]
Feb 11 09:04:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4116 @ 0.00063301 = 2.6055 BTC [-]
Feb 11 09:06:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.0007 = 0.07 BTC
Feb 11 09:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.0006368 = 2.579 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 09:13:24 <jurov>	lol bitcoiners got so used to services abruptly ceasing operation
Feb 11 09:13:43 <jurov>	i got trivial password reset inquiry email, ended with "Hope you are still up and running."
Feb 11 09:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8284 @ 0.00063301 = 5.2439 BTC [-]
Feb 11 09:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5616 @ 0.00063186 = 3.5485 BTC [-]
Feb 11 09:15:17 <Chaang-Noi>	jurov its crazy like that though
Feb 11 09:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11121 @ 0.0006368 = 7.0819 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 09:29:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00063807 = 10.911 BTC [+]
Feb 11 09:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00064072 = 1.3775 BTC [+]
Feb 11 09:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064094 = 1.6024 BTC [+]
Feb 11 09:29:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6676 @ 0.00064173 = 4.2842 BTC [+]
Feb 11 09:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.000642 = 19.0674 BTC [+]
Feb 11 09:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10474 @ 0.00064285 = 6.7332 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 09:40:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Feb 11 09:41:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.0006373 = 9.0815 BTC [-]
Feb 11 09:41:51 <Bugpowder>	BREAKING NEWS - http://abcnews.go.com/Health/florida-couple-addicted-coffee-enemas/story?id=18433235
Feb 11 09:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 426 @ 0.00064285 = 0.2739 BTC [+]
Feb 11 09:48:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5131 @ 0.00064304 = 3.2994 BTC [+]
Feb 11 09:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00064307 = 2.6044 BTC [+]
Feb 11 09:48:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4893 @ 0.00064364 = 3.1493 BTC [+]
Feb 11 09:48:41 <ThickAsThieves>	so it's like yuppie meth?
Feb 11 09:48:55 <ThickAsThieves>	people...
Feb 11 09:52:36 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 25
Feb 11 09:52:38 <gribble>	There are currently 10748.003 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 265154.999149 USD in total.
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Feb 11 10:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.0006373 = 8.0937 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 10:11:56 <jcpham>	;;slap Chaang-Noi
Feb 11 10:11:58 *	gribble slaps Chaang-Noi with a sweet double bassoon
Feb 11 10:12:50 <abracadabra>	not a sweet double babboon?
Feb 11 10:13:00 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, what was that for! :)
Feb 11 10:13:27 <abracadabra>	don't mind jcpham, that's just his way of saying hello
Feb 11 10:13:42 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 11 10:13:50 <jcpham>	yes i was saying hello
Feb 11 10:13:57 <Chaang-Noi>	hello all!
Feb 11 10:14:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063909 = 10.2254 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 10:15:11 <Chaang-Noi>	sadly it is my bed time so i must say good night:)
Feb 11 10:16:00 <jcpham>	buh bye
Feb 11 10:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3210 @ 0.00063909 = 2.0515 BTC [+]
Feb 11 10:16:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7004 @ 0.00063949 = 4.479 BTC [+]
Feb 11 10:18:23 <Chaang-Noi>	bye jcpham
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Feb 11 10:25:49 <mod6>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-11/too-much-european-integration-romanian-donkey-meat-uk-beef-burgers
Feb 11 10:25:52 <mod6>	lol
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Feb 11 10:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.0006438 = 12.9082 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 10:32:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.0006438 = 4.5388 BTC [+]
Feb 11 10:32:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.0006441 = 6.0867 BTC [+]
Feb 11 10:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00064313 = 11.3834 BTC [-]
Feb 11 10:39:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00064313 = 3.4729 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 10:41:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.0006441 = 7.4716 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 10:44:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0006441 = 1.6747 BTC [+]
Feb 11 10:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9986 @ 0.00064445 = 6.4355 BTC [+]
Feb 11 10:50:30 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 24
Feb 11 10:50:32 <gribble>	There are currently 896.14344 bitcoins offered at or under 24.0 USD, worth 21450.3202049 USD in total.
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Feb 11 10:50:59 <DeadWeasel>	;;bids 23.9
Feb 11 10:51:00 <gribble>	There are currently 1.9573856 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.9 USD, worth 46.7875594469 USD in total.
Feb 11 10:52:01 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 11 10:52:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.88490, Best ask: 23.91835, Bid-ask spread: 0.03345, Last trade: 23.91835, 24 hour volume: 30876.24546559, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.87169
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Feb 11 11:04:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 514 @ 0.00064445 = 0.3312 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0006446 = 3.3519 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3154 @ 0.00064485 = 2.0339 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:08:13 <ThickAsThieves>	I wonder at what BTC value people start complaining about wallet-to-wallet transaction fees
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Feb 11 11:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9106 @ 0.00064313 = 5.8563 BTC [-]
Feb 11 11:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17712 @ 0.00064351 = 11.3978 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5983 @ 0.0006451 = 3.8596 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00064526 = 3.3231 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22721 @ 0.00064544 = 14.665 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16586 @ 0.00064556 = 10.7073 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5987 @ 0.00064581 = 3.8665 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22713 @ 0.00064621 = 14.6774 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8936 @ 0.00064662 = 5.7782 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14784 @ 0.00064698 = 9.565 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6324 @ 0.00064708 = 4.0921 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00064721 = 4.0774 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30450 @ 0.00064784 = 19.7267 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:14:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52462 @ 0.0006479 = 33.9901 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 11:16:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4180 @ 0.0006479 = 2.7082 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 11:31:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00064619 = 4.9757 BTC [-]
Feb 11 11:31:25 <mod6>	;;calc 1000*.0005
Feb 11 11:31:26 <gribble>	0.5
Feb 11 11:32:30 <mod6>	;;calc 1000000000000000/11000000
Feb 11 11:32:30 <gribble>	90909090.9091
Feb 11 11:32:56 <mod6>	;;calc 90909090*.0005
Feb 11 11:32:57 <gribble>	45454.545
Feb 11 11:33:07 <mod6>	HEH
Feb 11 11:33:50 <mod6>	;;calc 90909090*.00000001
Feb 11 11:33:50 <gribble>	0.9090909
Feb 11 11:34:19 <mod6>	\o/
Feb 11 11:35:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00064619 = 6.9789 BTC [-]
Feb 11 11:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8238 @ 0.00064313 = 5.2981 BTC [-]
Feb 11 11:36:05 <jurov>	;;bc,convert shenanigans
Feb 11 11:36:06 <gribble>	1 BTC = Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
Feb 11 11:36:20 <jurov>	;;slap assbot
Feb 11 11:36:22 *	gribble slaps assbot with a changeable impalement
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Feb 11 11:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1742 @ 0.00064313 = 1.1203 BTC [-]
Feb 11 11:41:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4906 @ 0.00064217 = 3.1505 BTC [-]
Feb 11 11:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4943 @ 0.00063782 = 3.1527 BTC [-]
Feb 11 11:45:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00595054 = 11.6036 BTC [+]
Feb 11 11:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1357 @ 0.00063782 = 0.8655 BTC [-]
Feb 11 11:49:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6943 @ 0.0006373 = 4.4248 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 11:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.0006479 = 0.7775 BTC [+]
Feb 11 12:01:07 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 11 12:01:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.84588, Best ask: 23.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03412, Last trade: 23.84587, 24 hour volume: 30125.82192065, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.89098
Feb 11 12:02:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.000644 = 7.245 BTC [-]
Feb 11 12:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21808 @ 0.0006479 = 14.1294 BTC [+]
Feb 11 12:03:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14492 @ 0.00064981 = 9.417 BTC [+]
Feb 11 12:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3908 @ 0.00064981 = 2.5395 BTC [+]
Feb 11 12:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064995 = 2.7948 BTC [+]
Feb 11 12:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8103 @ 0.0006506 = 5.2718 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 12:09:23 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap gribble
Feb 11 12:09:25 *	gribble slaps gribble with a ruined bombard
Feb 11 12:09:58 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap DeadWeasel
Feb 11 12:09:59 *	gribble slaps DeadWeasel with a sophisticated limb
Feb 11 12:10:07 *	DeadWeasel likes it
Feb 11 12:10:13 <DeadWeasel>	!
Feb 11 12:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5283 @ 0.000644 = 3.4023 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 12:16:02 <DeadWeasel>	S&M gribble
Feb 11 12:16:10 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap DeadWeasel
Feb 11 12:16:11 *	gribble slaps DeadWeasel with a lascivious Bitcoin
Feb 11 12:18:07 <DeaDTerra>	WTB XRP :) pm me!
Feb 11 12:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4106 @ 0.00064299 = 2.6401 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 12:36:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11094 @ 0.00064661 = 7.1735 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 12:38:39 <jurov>	hatefest on #bitcon-otc
Feb 11 12:38:53 <jurov>	 Mircea Popescu, the Bill Gates of Bitcoin. (if billg had porn on microsoft.com)
Feb 11 12:40:29 <EskimoBob>	;;ticker
Feb 11 12:40:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.96320, Best ask: 23.99677, Bid-ask spread: 0.03357, Last trade: 23.99677, 24 hour volume: 30284.73846546, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.89730
Feb 11 12:42:50 <DeadWeasel>	30k volume, not very high.
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Feb 11 12:44:33 <Bugpowder>	24.19!
Feb 11 12:48:02 <DeadWeasel>	!!
Feb 11 12:48:17 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 11 12:48:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.99964, Best ask: 24.03327, Bid-ask spread: 0.03363, Last trade: 24.06130, 24 hour volume: 30690.91383549, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.90079
Feb 11 12:48:36 <DeadWeasel>	350 bitcoins took us there from 23.96
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Feb 11 12:49:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7606 @ 0.00064456 = 4.9025 BTC [-]
Feb 11 12:49:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20694 @ 0.00064757 = 13.4008 BTC [+]
Feb 11 12:49:57 <DeadWeasel>	would anyone recommend S.BBET?
Feb 11 12:50:40 <pigeons>	depends what price you get it for
Feb 11 12:51:27 <pigeons>	you should take EskimoBob's advice and "be your own whale" to pump up the price some ;)
Feb 11 12:52:08 <DeadWeasel>	So that would require buying say, 300 shares, than buying at successively higher prices at junks of 100 shares?
Feb 11 12:52:27 <DeadWeasel>	thus creating a market for a 'rising' asset?
Feb 11 12:53:07 <Diablo-D3>	might as well start bidding on those asicminer shares then
Feb 11 12:55:44 <pigeons>	no i mean make a bunch of big bets
Feb 11 12:56:44 <EskimoBob>	so, btc crossed 24USD line
Feb 11 12:57:18 <jurov>	again? mass hysteria ensues :)
Feb 11 12:59:09 <DeadWeasel>	oh, sdice whale
Feb 11 12:59:10 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 11 12:59:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.05905, Best ask: 24.08999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03094, Last trade: 24.05904, 24 hour volume: 30755.51651899, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.90272
Feb 11 12:59:19 <DeadWeasel>	that's not an option for me
Feb 11 12:59:32 <DeadWeasel>	because it's not profitable
Feb 11 13:02:22 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 11 13:02:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.05767, Best ask: 24.09136, Bid-ask spread: 0.03369, Last trade: 24.05768, 24 hour volume: 30812.67850009, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.90315
Feb 11 13:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14112 @ 0.0006373 = 8.9936 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00063714 = 12.2012 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 13:08:34 <DeadWeasel>	ohmagherd it's dead in here today
Feb 11 13:08:42 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap deadweasel
Feb 11 13:08:43 *	gribble slaps deadweasel with a finished Bitcoin
Feb 11 13:10:04 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: it was not my advice but more like "are they really doing this to make it look good" and so on
Feb 11 13:11:24 <EskimoBob>	DeadWeasel: you need to set up your own sdice site
Feb 11 13:11:55 <EskimoBob>	there was a ppc dice site somewhere
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Feb 11 13:12:45 <DeadWeasel>	I do need to do that, EskimoBob.
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Feb 11 13:13:09 <DeadWeasel>	I'm just teaching myself to program now.  It's slow as I have a full time job.
Feb 11 13:13:17 <EskimoBob>	DeadWeasel: http://satoshiroulette.com/?mode=PPC
Feb 11 13:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4238 @ 0.00063647 = 2.6974 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1490 @ 0.00064757 = 0.9649 BTC [+]
Feb 11 13:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11067 @ 0.00065011 = 7.1948 BTC [+]
Feb 11 13:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9099 @ 0.00063186 = 5.7493 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:16:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5217 @ 0.00063111 = 3.2925 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14053 @ 0.0006311 = 8.8688 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2831 @ 0.00063054 = 1.7851 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:17:18 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 11 13:17:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.21001, Best ask: 24.27700, Bid-ask spread: 0.06699, Last trade: 24.21001, 24 hour volume: 30932.81371951, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.91140
Feb 11 13:17:38 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,covert eur
Feb 11 13:17:39 <gribble>	Error: "bc,covert" is not a valid command.
Feb 11 13:17:43 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 11 13:17:44 <gribble>	1 BTC = 24.21001 U.S. dollars = 18.0806647 Euros
Feb 11 13:18:03 <PsychoticBoy_>	Ka-ching
Feb 11 13:18:22 <DeadWeasel>	this does not seem stable with such low volume.
Feb 11 13:18:36 <EskimoBob>	this is the one: ;;bc,convert eur
Feb 11 13:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed.
Feb 11 13:18:41 <DeadWeasel>	single user pump and dump?
Feb 11 13:19:23 <DeadWeasel>	and it looks like there is .5 BTC bot pushing down on the price....
Feb 11 13:20:26 <Bugpowder>	yeah doing a great job of pushing it down too
Feb 11 13:20:39 <DeadWeasel>	lol, no.
Feb 11 13:21:04 <DeadWeasel>	I wonder how many SR users are waiting to get to the bank today, after being snowed in all weekend.
Feb 11 13:21:34 <DeadWeasel>	i know they are out of Oxycotin already.  3 day weekend.
Feb 11 13:21:40 <DeadWeasel>	and another one coming up!
Feb 11 13:22:23 <EskimoBob>	LOL
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Feb 11 13:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	what's oxycotin even for ?
Feb 11 13:23:58 <EskimoBob>	DeadWeasel: only dead addicts are good addicts
Feb 11 13:24:21 <ThickAsThieves>	pain
Feb 11 13:24:36 <DeadWeasel>	addicts, the foundation of bitcoin.
Feb 11 13:24:37 <ThickAsThieves>	oxycontin&
Feb 11 13:24:53 <ThickAsThieves>	or oxycodone
Feb 11 13:24:59 <DeadWeasel>	i think that's as good as it gets.  If porn can create the internet then addicts can create a new currencyu.
Feb 11 13:25:11 <DeadWeasel>	EskimoBob: no
Feb 11 13:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	this entire "sr drives bitcoin" is about as stupid as people thinking cowboy movies drove the us west.
Feb 11 13:25:38 <EskimoBob>	"addicts, the foundation of bitcoin" LOL, this is good one and actually correct too
Feb 11 13:25:55 <ThickAsThieves>	it's certainly "helping" tho
Feb 11 13:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	well sure.
Feb 11 13:26:23 <ThickAsThieves>	the best part about SR users is they dont care what the echange rate is
Feb 11 13:26:37 <DeadWeasel>	there is more activity on SR and their forums than any other bitcoin related activity
Feb 11 13:26:50 <DeadWeasel>	gambling is huge too, but they are more likely to stop at a certain point
Feb 11 13:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel activity on a forum is a very poor representation of anything.
Feb 11 13:27:07 <EskimoBob>	gambling is addiction too
Feb 11 13:27:28 <DeadWeasel>	it is, that's why it's another solid corner of the pyramind
Feb 11 13:27:36 <ThickAsThieves>	the SR thing can't last
Feb 11 13:27:49 <EskimoBob>	gambling-drugs-porn?
Feb 11 13:27:56 <jurov>	where does that "if bitcoin goes up,gambling/sd will subside" come from?
Feb 11 13:27:56 <ThickAsThieves>	at least not in the US...
Feb 11 13:28:19 <DeadWeasel>	ThickAsThieves: it also can't be stopped, unless they open every package of mail, which is illegal if it's US  POST
Feb 11 13:28:28 <ThickAsThieves>	USPS is stopping deliveries on Saturdays soon
Feb 11 13:28:39 <ThickAsThieves>	all those drugs just sitting all weekend
Feb 11 13:29:24 <EskimoBob>	and housewives are going mad, because the crap they ordered is not arriving
Feb 11 13:29:38 <ThickAsThieves>	many of the drugs could be sniffed out
Feb 11 13:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77870.msg1519243#msg1519243 one of the sd whales ?
Feb 11 13:29:48 <DeadWeasel>	they're stopping due to a lack of budget.  I doubt they'll hire drug dogs to hang out on weekends.
Feb 11 13:29:48 <EskimoBob>	and I mean TV shop crap
Feb 11 13:29:48 <ThickAsThieves>	but you are right, it cant stop entirely
Feb 11 13:29:51 <EskimoBob>	no sd
Feb 11 13:30:02 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
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Feb 11 13:30:04 <gribble>	1 BTC = 24.26943 U.S. dollars = 18.1142185 Euros
Feb 11 13:30:11 <ThickAsThieves>	USPS budget isnt where dogs come from
Feb 11 13:30:15 <EskimoBob>	unfknreal
Feb 11 13:30:34 <EskimoBob>	do we see 30?
Feb 11 13:30:54 <ThickAsThieves>	people could just ship on Mondays and be safer
Feb 11 13:31:10 <ThickAsThieves>	anywho idc
Feb 11 13:31:22 <ThickAsThieves>	legalize it all
Feb 11 13:31:31 <DeadWeasel>	Imagine the organization it would take to determine exactly which package is was.
Feb 11 13:31:40 <DeadWeasel>	ThickAsThieves: i agree,
Feb 11 13:31:54 <DeadWeasel>	let them OD or not, either way, drug issues sort themselves out.
Feb 11 13:32:51 <EskimoBob>	400 mln or was it bln  wasted every year on "war on drugs"?
Feb 11 13:33:03 <EskimoBob>	all they do is hell sell shit and keep the price up
Feb 11 13:33:08 <EskimoBob>	sell*
Feb 11 13:33:28 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, that guy on your link's last post is inquiring about buying a harley for 450btc, maybe he IS a whale
Feb 11 13:33:29 <EskimoBob>	help* sell
Feb 11 13:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	is a harley that cheap ?
Feb 11 13:34:46 <jcpham>	some are
Feb 11 13:34:48 <DeadWeasel>	he def bets a lot
Feb 11 13:34:48 <ThickAsThieves>	used maybe
Feb 11 13:34:54 <jborkl>	a girls Harley is
Feb 11 13:34:59 <jborkl>	a sporster
Feb 11 13:35:10 <jcpham>	yeah i was going to say a sportster
Feb 11 13:35:24 <jcpham>	you can tack on enough extra to make it not cheap though
Feb 11 13:35:33 *	luke-jr_ is now known as Luke-Jr
Feb 11 13:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/218277/images/Sportster.jpg
Feb 11 13:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is this thing. seriously.
Feb 11 13:35:57 <ThickAsThieves>	he's also buying BFL preorders
Feb 11 13:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	looks like a husqvarna
Feb 11 13:36:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00063768 = 7.9391 BTC [+]
Feb 11 13:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 348 @ 0.00064263 = 0.2236 BTC [+]
Feb 11 13:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00609434 = 1.2189 BTC [+]
Feb 11 13:36:57 <Chilca>	anyone has an inside about BFL preorders?
Feb 11 13:37:09 <EskimoBob>	is it true that now days, only faggots ride Harleys?
Feb 11 13:37:24 <jborkl>	you should know
Feb 11 13:37:31 <jcpham>	i ride an expatriated romanian mule mostly
Feb 11 13:37:32 <ThickAsThieves>	info on their forum says that the chips will arrive at bumping facility today or tomorrow
Feb 11 13:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham as long as its not an ass
Feb 11 13:37:52 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: lol
Feb 11 13:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Feb 11 13:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	could go either way.
Feb 11 13:38:10 <EskimoBob>	you mean you ride mircea_popescu?
Feb 11 13:38:19 <Chilca>	Yea, I saw in the forum!, Thanks mircea_popescu
Feb 11 13:38:32 <EskimoBob>	post a picture!
Feb 11 13:38:44 <Chilca>	we bought a few
Feb 11 13:39:15 <ThickAsThieves>	That bet has a weird qualifier in it
Feb 11 13:39:21 <ThickAsThieves>	Devices must be in scope of +-10% of advertised performance in order to be accepted as valid.
Feb 11 13:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	what's weird about that ?
Feb 11 13:39:31 <ThickAsThieves>	what if the devices are 11% faster than spec'd?
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Feb 11 13:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	i defy you to deliver any sort of item, no matter what it be, from potatoes or crude oil to combustion engines or lcd monitors
Feb 11 13:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	that's NOT within 10% and still have it accepted.
Feb 11 13:40:37 <ThickAsThieves>	my point is,
Feb 11 13:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	10% is, if anything, mindboggling generous.
Feb 11 13:40:46 <ThickAsThieves>	what if BFL makes them FASTER
Feb 11 13:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	they deliver what they say or they fail.
Feb 11 13:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't matter.
Feb 11 13:41:03 <mircea_popescu>	production is about doing what you want, not what comes out.
Feb 11 13:41:33 <ThickAsThieves>	so if their devices all have a bonus speed of 11%, and ship on time, they still failed to meet the qualitifications?
Feb 11 13:41:47 <ThickAsThieves>	*deliver on time
Feb 11 13:42:14 <ThickAsThieves>	qualitifiations, heh
Feb 11 13:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 11 13:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00063083 = 4.5104 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12455 @ 0.00063054 = 7.8534 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:42:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6445 @ 0.00062986 = 4.0594 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, if they deliver by 1st of march they're grossly NOT on time
Feb 11 13:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	as the things were supposed to come out in november last or something like that.
Feb 11 13:43:12 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Feb 11 13:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, if they specced 66 and deliver 73 they lose.
Feb 11 13:43:31 <Diablo-D3>	bfl started a YEAR before everyone else
Feb 11 13:43:41 <Diablo-D3>	they are REALLY late
Feb 11 13:43:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i ordered a couple a month ago, I just wanna own em, not worried if they make the money
Feb 11 13:44:07 <ThickAsThieves>	I surmise that over time theyll be worth it anyway
Feb 11 13:44:15 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: nope
Feb 11 13:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves one angle i think most people fail to grok is that
Feb 11 13:44:25 <Diablo-D3>	asicminer will fuck over difficulty for everyone else
Feb 11 13:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	once btc takes over, these fabled early asics will sell at sotheby's
Feb 11 13:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	(for btc)
Feb 11 13:44:31 <kakobreklaa>	last time i checked inaba was making exuses they will likely fail their power req. and lose the bet they made publicly
Feb 11 13:44:55 <pigeons>	inaba making excuses? no!
Feb 11 13:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa last time i heard of him he was getting owned by the girl
Feb 11 13:44:56 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: btw, I suggest you bid on more asicminer shares if you plan on making any money
Feb 11 13:45:01 <jborkl>	SD about to cross 3 million bets
Feb 11 13:45:07 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 11 13:45:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.20309, Best ask: 24.23694, Bid-ask spread: 0.03385, Last trade: 24.23694, 24 hour volume: 31171.64310858, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.91775
Feb 11 13:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if it ever goes over 1bn bets
Feb 11 13:45:43 <ThickAsThieves>	diablo, I might, just a matter of whether I can move money around before the deadline...
Feb 11 13:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	i hope that's a joke
Feb 11 13:46:24 <mircea_popescu>	asicminer is MAYBE worth 0.08 atm
Feb 11 13:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	which is still under par.
Feb 11 13:46:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3254 = 0.6508 BTC [+]
Feb 11 13:46:40 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: lol.
Feb 11 13:46:42 <mircea_popescu>	if there were a practical way to do it i'd short the entire float.
Feb 11 13:46:43 <ThickAsThieves>	they seem to be hinting they will go online very soon
Feb 11 13:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves even so.
Feb 11 13:47:13 <Diablo-D3>	I dont think mircea_popescu realizes how much hash power asicminer will end up having
Feb 11 13:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	"end up having".
Feb 11 13:47:32 <DeadWeasel>	how did namworld's auction go?
Feb 11 13:47:40 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: I won half of it
Feb 11 13:47:41 <DeadWeasel>	last i saw was .51
Feb 11 13:47:45 <DeadWeasel>	nice!
Feb 11 13:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	i think he got like .35 or some ungodly thing like that
Feb 11 13:47:46 <mircea_popescu>	o wow.
Feb 11 13:47:52 <ThickAsThieves>	if you wanna short it, buy that 5000share seat and promote your auction more than Nam
Feb 11 13:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	god i wish i could sell 10k of those.
Feb 11 13:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	no, to short it i'd have to borrow some and sell them.
Feb 11 13:48:23 <mircea_popescu>	and i wouldn't promote that shit either, it's unconscionable.
Feb 11 13:48:24 <DeadWeasel>	Diablo-D3: what was the final price?
Feb 11 13:48:28 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Feb 11 13:48:30 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: see the thread
Feb 11 13:48:38 <ThickAsThieves>	some people bid like .41 right?
Feb 11 13:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064024 = 2.1128 BTC [+]
Feb 11 13:48:54 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Feb 11 13:49:05 <Diablo-D3>	asicminer shares should go past 1 btc
Feb 11 13:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol dude, srsly.
Feb 11 13:49:29 <ThickAsThieves>	also, as far as buying the BFLs I did, like I said, I just wanna own a couple miners, I have a lot of "gizmos"
Feb 11 13:49:39 <DeadWeasel>	at work, look it up later.  glad you won though Diablo-D3
Feb 11 13:50:20 <ThickAsThieves>	i wanna make sure I understand somehting about how the blockchain works,
Feb 11 13:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30855 @ 0.00062986 = 19.4343 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:50:39 <ThickAsThieves>	if bitcoin transaction volume increased like 1000x
Feb 11 13:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062884 = 7.3574 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:50:48 <ThickAsThieves>	mining difficulty drops a lot right?
Feb 11 13:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4972 @ 0.00062786 = 3.1217 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00062766 = 12.1138 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:50:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 173 @ 0.00062729 = 0.1085 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	not at all.
Feb 11 13:50:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00062706 = 0.5957 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:50:59 <Diablo-D3>	I wish I had the money to buy all of asicminer
Feb 11 13:51:01 <Diablo-D3>	all 200k shares
Feb 11 13:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	this is why you don't have a lot of money.
Feb 11 13:51:29 <ThickAsThieves>	so how will the system deal with confirming that many transactions
Feb 11 13:51:40 <ThickAsThieves>	like what if there were 1000 satoshidice.coms
Feb 11 13:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves blocks currently can only cointain 1mb of data
Feb 11 13:51:59 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: dude, if I had all of asiicminer
Feb 11 13:52:07 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I'd basically own most of the hashing power out there
Feb 11 13:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	so miners would prolly sort out the txs by fee/bytes
Feb 11 13:52:29 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 you get excited too easily. things don't work like they could
Feb 11 13:52:31 <DeadWeasel>	yup, start sending a fee at that point if want immediate includsion in the blockchain
Feb 11 13:52:32 <ThickAsThieves>	so the fee revenue would go up a lot
Feb 11 13:52:32 <mircea_popescu>	things work like they work.
Feb 11 13:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes.
Feb 11 13:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	conceivably.
Feb 11 13:52:48 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I am very unexcitable
Feb 11 13:52:59 <ThickAsThieves>	and fee revenue goes into blocks?
Feb 11 13:53:02 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 11 13:53:03 <gribble>	1 BTC = 24.21231 U.S. dollars = 18.0715853 Euros
Feb 11 13:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves that made no sense.
Feb 11 13:53:26 <ThickAsThieves>	just trying to fully graspo this
Feb 11 13:53:35 <ThickAsThieves>	where do fees go?
Feb 11 13:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	a tx is (x+y+z) btc input (k+l+m) btc output.
Feb 11 13:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	if input > output the difference is kept by whoever mines the blokc
Feb 11 13:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	if that difference divided by the tx length is high everyone mining will want to include it in their block
Feb 11 13:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	if its low nobody would include it unless there's space
Feb 11 13:54:38 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: where is asicminer listed?
Feb 11 13:54:43 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: it isnt yet
Feb 11 13:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	think like the blocks are train wagons, and the tx are people. the fee is what they pay
Feb 11 13:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	if a 200lb woman offers 10 bux she waits
Feb 11 13:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	if some 75lb dood offers 100 bux he gets in
Feb 11 13:55:04 <ThickAsThieves>	right
Feb 11 13:55:10 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: so they are doing "manually"?
Feb 11 13:55:19 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: the auctions are manual, yes
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Feb 11 13:55:28 <ThickAsThieves>	so when the last new bitcoin is mined, miners mine for the fees only?
Feb 11 13:55:29 <EskimoBob>	do you have a URL?
Feb 11 13:55:31 <Diablo-D3>	it was on glbse
Feb 11 13:55:45 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: yes
Feb 11 13:55:50 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves exactly
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Feb 11 13:55:55 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: look in the auctions forum, several people are selling their shares
Feb 11 13:56:05 <ThickAsThieves>	so, say it's 2015 and 50% of the world is using bitcoin
Feb 11 13:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	ok.
Feb 11 13:56:14 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: OK, thanks. In this case, I do not care really
Feb 11 13:56:16 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: friedcat is going to be putting his own exchange up
Feb 11 13:56:18 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Feb 11 13:56:20 <Diablo-D3>	THEN WHY ASK
Feb 11 13:56:27 <ThickAsThieves>	you could potentially still make monet
Feb 11 13:56:30 <ThickAsThieves>	money*
Feb 11 13:56:32 <ThickAsThieves>	mininhg
Feb 11 13:56:32 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: why not use OTC :)
Feb 11 13:56:37 <mircea_popescu>	surely.
Feb 11 13:56:37 <pigeons>	Homomorphic Payment Addresses and the Pay-to-Contract Protocol http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.3257
Feb 11 13:56:43 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: because it kind of already is
Feb 11 13:56:45 <pigeons>	from https://github.com/bcpki/bitcoin/blob/master/README.md
Feb 11 13:56:47 <EskimoBob>	correction OT
Feb 11 13:57:00 <Diablo-D3>	because thats not my choice
Feb 11 13:57:03 <EskimoBob>	everyone can have their own exchange
Feb 11 13:57:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess what i'm trying to confirm is, that all these charts miners are working on, and trying to predict difficulty are all totally thrown out the window if rapid bitcoin adoption happens
Feb 11 13:57:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4944 @ 0.00062706 = 3.1002 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes.
Feb 11 13:58:04 <EskimoBob>	ThickAsThieves: like all predictions do
Feb 11 13:58:06 <ThickAsThieves>	ok i'm done, thx :)
Feb 11 13:58:14 <mircea_popescu>	the "charts" people like that idiot on reddit are working on are bs anyway
Feb 11 13:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	for so many different reasons it doesn't even matter that adoption would skew
Feb 11 13:58:29 <DeaDTerra>	WTB XRP, current bid is 1 BTC for 100k XRP, but I am willing to take offers :)
Feb 11 13:58:37 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 11 13:58:38 <gribble>	1 BTC = 24.28302 U.S. dollars = 18.1243618 Euros
Feb 11 13:58:50 <DeadWeasel>	DeaDTerra: what is XRP?
Feb 11 13:59:27 <pigeons>	"ripples" ripple.com transaction fee currency
Feb 11 13:59:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5606 @ 0.00062706 = 3.5153 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:59:50 <pigeons>	very rare only 10 billion
Feb 11 13:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4244 @ 0.00062683 = 2.6603 BTC [-]
Feb 11 13:59:54 <jcpham>	who needs xrp?
Feb 11 14:00:06 <ThickAsThieves>	brokers that use bitfunder?
Feb 11 14:00:23 <DeaDTerra>	XRP is the credit used for the ripple network
Feb 11 14:00:29 <DeaDTerra>	100 billion actually
Feb 11 14:00:40 <pigeons>	;)
Feb 11 14:00:44 <jcpham>	1btc for 100k xrp?
Feb 11 14:00:48 <jcpham>	yowsers
Feb 11 14:01:03 <DeaDTerra>	That's the current offer on the market, but as I said I am willing to here offers
Feb 11 14:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	wait, so supposedly xrp mkt cap is 100k btc ?
Feb 11 14:01:23 <mircea_popescu>	in what parallel universe this ?!
Feb 11 14:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00064024 = 8.5152 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:01:49 <DeaDTerra>	it's what people are willing to pay for it :P, if you think it's over priced then get some and sell them xD
Feb 11 14:02:33 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: how many BTC do you have?
Feb 11 14:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	a bunch
Feb 11 14:02:45 <Diablo-D3>	more than 100k?
Feb 11 14:02:47 <pigeons>	Diablo-D3: how small is your dick?
Feb 11 14:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 11 14:02:53 <Diablo-D3>	more than 400k?
Feb 11 14:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
Feb 11 14:03:05 <jcpham>	i'll sell 500 xrp for 1 btc DeaDTerra
Feb 11 14:03:11 <Diablo-D3>	how many people do you think have more than 400k?
Feb 11 14:03:20 <Diablo-D3>	or hell, more than 1k
Feb 11 14:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	more than 1k at least 1k
Feb 11 14:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	more than 400k maybe a dozen, if that.
Feb 11 14:03:39 *	jcpham raises hand
Feb 11 14:03:41 <DeaDTerra>	No thank you :)
Feb 11 14:03:51 *	jcpham runs away
Feb 11 14:04:36 <Diablo-D3>	okay so
Feb 11 14:05:07 <Diablo-D3>	do you think it'd be possible to raise a little over 400k btc to start a datacenter catering to high density computation customers?
Feb 11 14:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 11 14:05:38 <Diablo-D3>	even if it was done in bonds that pay the equiv of 5% annually for ten years?
Feb 11 14:05:59 <mircea_popescu>	your 400k would be a very big 4% stake out of all bitcoin. your datacenter would be an inconsequential 0.0001% of all datacenters
Feb 11 14:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	which is an inconsequential 0.0000% of all fiat.
Feb 11 14:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	trades happen if and only if the % of btc you give away
Feb 11 14:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	gets a larger % of fiat in exchange.
Feb 11 14:06:43 <Diablo-D3>	yes, but it would have 100-150 racks profiting 10k USD a month
Feb 11 14:06:50 <mircea_popescu>	makes no diff.
Feb 11 14:06:59 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 10000 * 150
Feb 11 14:06:59 <mircea_popescu>	400k btc just went from 14 each to 24 each
Feb 11 14:07:00 <gribble>	1500000
Feb 11 14:07:04 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 10000 * 150 / 24
Feb 11 14:07:05 <gribble>	62500
Feb 11 14:07:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00064196 = 13.8021 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5902 @ 0.00064263 = 3.7928 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1633 @ 0.00065011 = 1.0616 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:07:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 497 @ 0.0006506 = 0.3233 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00065122 = 5.34 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:07:22 <DeaDTerra>	Diablo and his never ending quest to build a datacenter...
Feb 11 14:07:24 <Diablo-D3>	it'd generate 62.5k bitcoins a month.
Feb 11 14:07:26 <iz>	;;calc 400000 * (24 - 14)
Feb 11 14:07:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00065302 = 5.616 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:07:26 <gribble>	4000000
Feb 11 14:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13070 @ 0.00065318 = 8.5371 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:07:32 <Bugpowder>	yeaa
Feb 11 14:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	you will eventualyl be able to finance fiat endeavours in btc, but prolly after btc mkt cap passes 1 trillion.
Feb 11 14:07:41 <Diablo-D3>	DeaDTerra: Im not going to let nefario sink this ship
Feb 11 14:08:07 <DeaDTerra>	The ship was sunk way before Nefario decided to pull the plug :P
Feb 11 14:08:10 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: DMC could cause btc to reach $1000
Feb 11 14:08:18 <Diablo-D3>	DeaDTerra: not really.
Feb 11 14:08:24 <Diablo-D3>	DeaDTerra: it never left the dock.
Feb 11 14:10:41 <mircea_popescu>	for now the deals that make sense to finance in btc are the deals that bring btc.
Feb 11 14:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	if you made a btc-taking datacenter. problem is the btc paying customers aren't doing more than maybe a few ks worth a year
Feb 11 14:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	so your mkt cap is probably under 50k btc or something  like that.
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Feb 11 14:12:19 <Bugpowder>	wouldn't it make more sense to manage an existing datacenter
Feb 11 14:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	it probably would.
Feb 11 14:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	arguably it'd be a good idea to make a btc-level secure btc
Feb 11 14:12:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6570 @ 0.00064415 = 4.2321 BTC [-]
Feb 11 14:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	somewhere in a free country, with good safety in place
Feb 11 14:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	and sell guaranteed space.
Feb 11 14:13:25 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I would accept btc, btw
Feb 11 14:13:45 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: no, most datacenters are pretty much fucked
Feb 11 14:13:57 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: they arent upgrading to handle customer demands and are massively wasting space
Feb 11 14:14:06 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: the only way to win is to come out of nowhere and eat their lunch
Feb 11 14:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	you're not eating anyone's lunch
Feb 11 14:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	the reason they're sloppy is that there's so much govt demand for them
Feb 11 14:15:16 <Diablo-D3>	sloppy doesnt bring the money in
Feb 11 14:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00065318 = 3.7721 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:17:30 <Diablo-D3>	many datacenters are not accepting new customers because they're "full"
Feb 11 14:17:37 <Diablo-D3>	yet half their rack space is wasted because of mismanagement
Feb 11 14:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	you're still not eating their lunch.
Feb 11 14:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	they're not making a loss.
Feb 11 14:19:19 <DeadWeasel>	not yet, not without a great plan.
Feb 11 14:19:35 <DeadWeasel>	and capital, and 12 hour work days for the next several years
Feb 11 14:19:44 <DeadWeasel>	then, maybe.
Feb 11 14:19:55 <mircea_popescu>	even with all that. they'll be fine, you'll make a little more per sq foot
Feb 11 14:22:06 <DeadWeasel>	which would be a nice business.
Feb 11 14:22:30 <DeadWeasel>	Diablo-D3: i agree with you on the state of the industry.
Feb 11 14:22:45 <DeadWeasel>	there is room for improvement.
Feb 11 14:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C210T] 3 @ 0.2192369 = 0.6577 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:24:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C220T] 3 @ 0.18744462 = 0.5623 BTC
Feb 11 14:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	problem is, a datacenter is something a multi-billion company makes. in fact, it's about on the level of building a nuclear plant.
Feb 11 14:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	heck, if one had any sense they'd build them together.
Feb 11 14:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	a nuclear plant and a datacenter.
Feb 11 14:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	to use all its power.
Feb 11 14:25:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9231 @ 0.00064415 = 5.9461 BTC [-]
Feb 11 14:26:00 <pigeons>	much smaller companies than that make datacenters, just as nice or nicer than the big ones, but less capacity
Feb 11 14:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3969 @ 0.00064189 = 2.5477 BTC [-]
Feb 11 14:26:34 <pigeons>	everybody wants you to survive a nuclear strike even if you're just making toys
Feb 11 14:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	im just thinking its so commodified it's probably the case economies of scale rule.
Feb 11 14:26:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:26:53 <pigeons>	yeah i find that
Feb 11 14:27:18 <pigeons>	but some people (over?)pay  just to be "in house. and definately overpay for uptime they dont need
Feb 11 14:28:12 <pigeons>	i frequently say why the fuck do you think this place will last, you could just build one the next county over where everything is cheaper, the next country over where you can use slaves and pollute, etc
Feb 11 14:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	slaves is always nice.
Feb 11 14:28:52 <pigeons>	well "cheaper labor"
Feb 11 14:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	people who take their work seriously.
Feb 11 14:30:13 <pigeons>	yeah
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Feb 11 14:32:49 <markedathome>	has there been some sort of glbse payout today from either glbse or btcsyn?
Feb 11 14:33:05 <mircea_popescu>	not that i heard of.
Feb 11 14:33:08 <markedathome>	around 1530gmt
Feb 11 14:33:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 205 @ 0.00065318 = 0.1339 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	there's been a lot of bitcoin sindicate drama on the forum tho
Feb 11 14:34:23 <markedathome>	saw that, but I didn't think that anything was happening from glasswalker's side until tomorrow/wednesday as he was 'away on personal business/attending a wedding' according to last email
Feb 11 14:34:39 <markedathome>	or have I randomly been given some btc?
Feb 11 14:35:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25395 @ 0.00065362 = 16.5987 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:35:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 905 @ 0.00064189 = 0.5809 BTC [-]
Feb 11 14:35:27 <Bugpowder>	I love when that happens
Feb 11 14:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	1. My God, What is this?
Feb 11 14:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	Yes, the dog will tell you.
Feb 11 14:35:37 <mircea_popescu>	for some reason the this is dog meme is really hard on foreigners.
Feb 11 14:36:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00065516 = 2.3913 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:36:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18926 @ 0.00065549 = 12.4058 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:36:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4928 @ 0.00065549 = 3.2303 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	2. MPSIC what?
Feb 11 14:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	The term stands for the standard identification code Pvpskvmybashd Mrsya.
Feb 11 14:36:16 <Bugpowder>	upupup
Feb 11 14:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	ok, fuck me...
Feb 11 14:37:30 <mod6>	lol @ this comment on superbowl bitbet: How can the Ravens be such underdogs when they have Capn' Stabbin Ray Lewis, ...
Feb 11 14:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	is he good ?
Feb 11 14:38:02 <Bugpowder>	he was 10 years ago
Feb 11 14:39:02 <Bugpowder>	then he (or his friends) murdered someone outside the club after a SuperBowl in 2000
Feb 11 14:39:10 <Bugpowder>	got off
Feb 11 14:39:17 <Bugpowder>	o hai!
Feb 11 14:39:24 <jcpham>	bitches be trippin
Feb 11 14:39:26 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 11 14:39:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.40000, Best ask: 24.41768, Bid-ask spread: 0.01768, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 32455.87760636, 24 hour low: 23.50000, 24 hour high: 24.41769, 24 hour vwap: 23.97896
Feb 11 14:39:27 <jcpham>	gettin stabbed
Feb 11 14:39:39 <Bugpowder>	STAB THE BEARZ
Feb 11 14:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	i c
Feb 11 14:39:55 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 24.40
Feb 11 14:39:57 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.4 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Feb 11 14:40:09 <jcpham>	bam
Feb 11 14:40:11 <jcpham>	up
Feb 11 14:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;bids 30
Feb 11 14:40:20 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
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Feb 11 14:42:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17272 @ 0.00065549 = 11.3216 BTC [+]
Feb 11 14:42:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28 @ 0.00065555 = 0.0184 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 14:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00064189 = 2.4713 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 14:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca btw, were you doing qa spanish mpex faq ?
Feb 11 14:52:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7638 BTC [-]
Feb 11 14:55:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3476 @ 0.00064189 = 2.2312 BTC [-]
Feb 11 14:55:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9714 @ 0.00063776 = 6.1952 BTC [-]
Feb 11 14:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7360 @ 0.00063066 = 4.6417 BTC [-]
Feb 11 15:04:37 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 11 15:04:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.19720, Best ask: 24.23107, Bid-ask spread: 0.03387, Last trade: 24.19334, 24 hour volume: 33722.82880541, 24 hour low: 23.54000, 24 hour high: 24.44000, 24 hour vwap: 23.99748
Feb 11 15:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00064312 = 4.0517 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:06:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0249 = 0.0996 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:06:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.0249 = 0.2739 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:07:04 <Bugpowder_>	;;asks 25
Feb 11 15:07:06 <gribble>	There are currently 7707.7138 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 191236.44685 USD in total.
Feb 11 15:07:09 <Bugpowder_>	;;bids 23
Feb 11 15:07:11 <gribble>	There are currently 7865.8976 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.0 USD, worth 183422.259511 USD in total.
Feb 11 15:07:13 <Bugpowder_>	:)
Feb 11 15:07:53 <Bugpowder_>	;;asks 29.5
Feb 11 15:07:55 <gribble>	There are currently 16509.353 bitcoins offered at or under 29.5 USD, worth 428037.241778 USD in total.
Feb 11 15:08:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.025 = 1 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:08:19 <Bugpowder_>	;;bids 22
Feb 11 15:08:21 <gribble>	There are currently 17945.695 bitcoins demanded at or over 22.0 USD, worth 409683.330498 USD in total.
Feb 11 15:08:27 <Bugpowder_>	:D
Feb 11 15:08:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:09:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00064312 = 1.7686 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00065555 = 11.2427 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00065176 = 13.4263 BTC [-]
Feb 11 15:16:19 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 11 15:16:20 <gribble>	23.93
Feb 11 15:16:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.7644 = 1.5288 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00065176 = 0.1304 BTC [-]
Feb 11 15:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17337 @ 0.00064004 = 11.0964 BTC [-]
Feb 11 15:26:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Feb 11 15:26:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.76380001 = 1.5276 BTC [-]
Feb 11 15:26:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7638 = 3.0552 BTC [-]
Feb 11 15:29:08 <maximian>	looks like havelock needs to add some more s.dice shares
Feb 11 15:29:22 <Bugpowder_>	They have 1,000,000 shares
Feb 11 15:29:41 <Bugpowder_>	900,000 actually
Feb 11 15:30:05 <maximian>	it's trading high relative to mpex
Feb 11 15:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 11 15:30:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.71999000 / 0.74751773 / 0.76500000 (22 shares, 16.44539002 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.62747513 / 0.76500000 (6394 shares, 4012.07597940 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.64105367 / 0.89000000 (10577 shares, 6780.42462184 BTC)
Feb 11 15:30:23 <Bugpowder_>	yeah
Feb 11 15:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	74s yea
Feb 11 15:30:30 <Bugpowder_>	If I were topace
Feb 11 15:30:36 <Bugpowder_>	I would buy some and dump
Feb 11 15:30:38 <Bugpowder_>	on havelock
Feb 11 15:30:43 <maximian>	yep, same here
Feb 11 15:30:47 <mircea_popescu>	well so buy 100k amnd push it to him
Feb 11 15:30:52 <mircea_popescu>	i think he converts neh ?
Feb 11 15:30:59 <Bugpowder_>	not that direction
Feb 11 15:31:01 <Bugpowder_>	:)
Feb 11 15:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 11 15:31:04 <maximian>	does he do that?
Feb 11 15:31:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6172 @ 0.00065555 = 4.0461 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:31:18 <mircea_popescu>	maybe ask ? i thought it was discussed
Feb 11 15:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	couldn't swear to it
Feb 11 15:31:44 <DeadWeasel>	this is where evoorhees comes in and announces the NEXT TRANCHE!
Feb 11 15:31:51 <Bugpowder_>	they have about 40,000 shares of bid at .0065 and above
Feb 11 15:32:02 <maximian>	lol
Feb 11 15:32:04 <Bugpowder_>	like... free money dudes
Feb 11 15:32:52 <Bugpowder_>	just like picking up S.MPOE at .00062
Feb 11 15:32:57 <Bugpowder_>	FREE MONEY
Feb 11 15:33:42 <maximian>	nobody seems to think so…. or the people who do are tapped out
Feb 11 15:33:44 <maximian>	like me!
Feb 11 15:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	and then they ask how does btc finance drive the btc.
Feb 11 15:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	welllll...
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Feb 11 15:39:55 <jurov>	DeadWeasel this is eerie
Feb 11 15:40:05 <jurov>	welcome evoorhees
Feb 11 15:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	6 minutes lol
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Feb 11 15:43:53 <truffles>	how does btc finance drive teh btc?
Feb 11 15:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	people getting tapped out.
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Feb 11 15:44:50 <truffles>	i was going to respond to that article but u seem busy mp
Feb 11 15:44:58 <truffles>	the one about stoopids
Feb 11 15:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	so go ahead
Feb 11 15:45:31 <truffles>	gee cant i get to complain a lil
Feb 11 15:45:40 <truffles>	fine i will !
Feb 11 15:46:25 <truffles>	oh i saw somethign about UK making ads to tell the Romanians to stay out cuz UK not so good lol
Feb 11 15:47:23 <truffles>	http://www.publicserviceeurope.com/article/2686/uk-cannot-afford-eu-open-borders-any-longer
Feb 11 15:47:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3228 @ 0.00065559 = 2.1162 BTC [+]
Feb 11 15:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	welfare state collapsing all over the world
Feb 11 15:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	why's that notable
Feb 11 15:48:43 <truffles>	cuz they dont want Romanians and some other country taking the jobs?
Feb 11 15:48:56 <truffles>	u know its GREAT britian
Feb 11 15:49:16 <truffles>	Bulgarians
Feb 11 15:49:24 <jurov>	maybe ask in #bitcoin-otc-uk
Feb 11 15:49:42 <truffles>	heh
Feb 11 15:49:51 <truffles>	how many bitcoin channels are there geez
Feb 11 15:49:51 <jurov>	some dood insisted they need own channel
Feb 11 15:49:56 <jurov>	without these rm
Feb 11 15:50:09 <jurov>	romanians i suppose
Feb 11 15:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064286 = 10.2858 BTC [-]
Feb 11 15:50:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00064004 = 5.3763 BTC [-]
Feb 11 15:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 11 15:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny tho, cause they call them romanians but it's mostly gypsies
Feb 11 15:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	who, you know, love to travel.
Feb 11 15:51:25 <truffles>	gypsies so hated for no reason
Feb 11 15:51:40 <jcpham>	expatriated romanian donkey refugess
Feb 11 15:51:44 <jcpham>	*refugees
Feb 11 15:53:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 11 15:54:38 <kakobreklaa>	did you hear about the romania, horses and france?
Feb 11 15:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00064004 = 9.0246 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 15:55:19 <truffles>	lets hear it
Feb 11 15:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol yeah
Feb 11 15:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	it was funny cause that morning i had horse salami for breakfast
Feb 11 15:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00064004 = 5.0563 BTC [-]
Feb 11 15:56:42 <kakobreklaa>	i like horse meat a lot
Feb 11 15:56:49 <kakobreklaa>	and they complain.
Feb 11 15:56:57 <kakobreklaa>	wackos.
Feb 11 15:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	well, if i ordered chicken curry and got pork curry i'd prolly say something
Feb 11 15:57:31 <truffles>	horse meat found in 16 EU countries
Feb 11 15:57:31 <kakobreklaa>	not if it tastes better and you dont know what it is.
Feb 11 15:57:37 <truffles>	thanks france!
Feb 11 15:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be pretty out there for me to not know what it is
Feb 11 15:58:09 <kakobreklaa>	maybe you got pork in your horse salame what do you know
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Feb 11 15:58:41 <truffles>	i hear horse meat is delicious
Feb 11 15:58:52 <kakobreklaa>	i taste horse meat is delicious
Feb 11 15:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	its pretty good yeah
Feb 11 15:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	there's this traditional salami thing in romania
Feb 11 15:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	it's sort of like cheese (ie, grows a special mold)
Feb 11 16:00:17 <Lyspooner>	moldy romanian horse sausage ftw
Feb 11 16:00:26 <Lyspooner>	hello all
Feb 11 16:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.recolta.eu/media/arhiva/salam-de-sibiu.jpeg
Feb 11 16:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	that sort of thing.
Feb 11 16:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	course by now it's industrially produced, they put pork in it etfc.
Feb 11 16:01:46 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu you should take mpex.com away from the midwest photo exchange
Feb 11 16:01:59 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Feb 11 16:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	there's a bunch of things on the mpex name
Feb 11 16:02:17 <Lyspooner>	it will make you more money
Feb 11 16:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	Membrane Protein Explorer (MPEx)
Feb 11 16:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	Prosoniq MPEX
Feb 11 16:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	The Maryland Physics Expectations Survey (MPEX)
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Feb 11 16:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	The Manufacturing Productivity Extension (MPEX) Program
Feb 11 16:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	why be an ass about it ?
Feb 11 16:03:17 <Lyspooner>	not an ass!  a big swinging dick!
Feb 11 16:03:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 11 16:03:49 <Lyspooner>	just email jim@mpex.com (srsly) and give him an offer
Feb 11 16:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	what, 10 bux ?
Feb 11 16:05:08 <Lyspooner>	maybe just put your exchange somewhere between "lenses" and "lighting&studio"
Feb 11 16:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 11 16:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	Balance Sheet: Feb 1, 2013
Feb 11 16:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	Short-term Assets
Feb 11 16:06:29 <mircea_popescu>	  Cash:  BTC 815.51 (majority locked in Bitcoinica liquidation)
Feb 11 16:06:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8043 @ 0.00064004 = 5.1478 BTC [-]
Feb 11 16:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3907 @ 0.00063496 = 2.4808 BTC [-]
Feb 11 16:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	someone explain to me how this guy's mind works
Feb 11 16:06:46 <Lyspooner>	who is that
Feb 11 16:06:49 <mircea_popescu>	unreceivables = short term assets ?
Feb 11 16:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	yochdog of all people.
Feb 11 16:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	wait, it gets better
Feb 11 16:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	Accounts receivable:  0
Feb 11 16:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	  ASIC pre-orders, not delivered:  $8,000
Feb 11 16:07:54 <truffles>	lets hear how mp's mind work though
Feb 11 16:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	his short term is made out of accounts he can't collect and items he won't receive.
Feb 11 16:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he thinks "short" means "missing"
Feb 11 16:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	like "i'm a dollar short"
Feb 11 16:09:00 <truffles>	how much is polimedia subscription
Feb 11 16:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	you mean for the blog ?
Feb 11 16:09:19 <truffles>	to view it
Feb 11 16:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	whatever you want. a btc = 20000 credits atm
Feb 11 16:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 11 16:09:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.36557, Best ask: 24.39955, Bid-ask spread: 0.03398, Last trade: 24.39955, 24 hour volume: 34302.41282646, 24 hour low: 23.54000, 24 hour high: 24.47002, 24 hour vwap: 24.01793
Feb 11 16:09:46 <mircea_popescu>	24017 to be precise
Feb 11 16:10:06 <truffles>	well u know my stance
Feb 11 16:10:24 <truffles>	next time dont post it there
Feb 11 16:10:29 <truffles>	reddits better :)
Feb 11 16:10:40 <mircea_popescu>	uh. you have a stance ?
Feb 11 16:10:54 <truffles>	yes several
Feb 11 16:18:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00063787 = 7.3036 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 16:27:58 <Lyspooner>	anyone have experience buying bitcoins on kapiton.se?
Feb 11 16:28:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6773 @ 0.00063787 = 4.3203 BTC [+]
Feb 11 16:28:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 508 @ 0.00063496 = 0.3226 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 16:32:27 <thestringpuller>	dont buy trilemma credits
Feb 11 16:32:58 <thestringpuller>	i got 1000 and my ip change and mircea_popescu is refusing customer support :(
Feb 11 16:33:18 <truffles>	thats just terrible
Feb 11 16:33:36 *	truffles gets the angry mob
Feb 11 16:34:40 <truffles>	u wrote them and no response?
Feb 11 16:36:15 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu can I get my credits updated :P
Feb 11 16:36:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7260 @ 0.0006341 = 4.6036 BTC [-]
Feb 11 16:36:30 <jcpham>	can i get a reach around?
Feb 11 16:36:37 <truffles>	yanks
Feb 11 16:36:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8324 @ 0.00064027 = 5.3296 BTC [+]
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Feb 11 16:36:55 <thestringpuller>	yup my credits is gone
Feb 11 16:36:58 <thestringpuller>	:P
Feb 11 16:37:17 <thestringpuller>	instead I will just hack the paywall like i have been doing
Feb 11 16:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller um... didn't you get a pw ?
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Feb 11 16:39:00 <truffles>	angry mobs are just waiting around the corner if this isnt sorted!
Feb 11 16:39:07 <thestringpuller>	lol
Feb 11 16:39:20 <thestringpuller>	no no pw
Feb 11 16:39:26 <thestringpuller>	you did it based on my ip
Feb 11 16:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	a well then.
Feb 11 16:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	get your ip back.
Feb 11 16:41:22 <thestringpuller>	lololol
Feb 11 16:41:55 <Lyspooner>	it seems like the options expiring next month have a low open interest.  go spend some btc on marketing
Feb 11 16:41:56 <truffles>	internet id is how they roll over there?
Feb 11 16:42:31 <mircea_popescu>	well, the way trilema credits work is you can have them by pw or by ip
Feb 11 16:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	if you have them by ip and lose the ip you lose the credits.
Feb 11 16:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	if you have them by pw and lose the pw you lose the credits.
Feb 11 16:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	so... either way. buy moar.
Feb 11 16:43:00 <truffles>	what kind b.s. is this
Feb 11 16:43:09 <truffles>	no backups or recovery methods??
Feb 11 16:43:09 <mircea_popescu>	this is bitcoin.
Feb 11 16:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 11 16:43:22 <truffles>	why not
Feb 11 16:43:23 <Lyspooner>	start listing quarterly options... your bot can handle longer-dated options
Feb 11 16:43:23 <pigeons>	buy 100 btc worth and take him to rota
Feb 11 16:43:26 <truffles>	shit happens
Feb 11 16:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	customer is responsible for his own enjoyment.
Feb 11 16:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner there's zero uptake of the march ones as it is
Feb 11 16:43:47 <Lyspooner>	that's a marketing issue
Feb 11 16:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	truffles so if shit happens then why are we discussing it ?
Feb 11 16:43:55 <Lyspooner>	the contracts are well-designed
Feb 11 16:44:09 <truffles>	customer needs help sorting his shit
Feb 11 16:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner perhaps, but until it is resolved i see little point in adding even longer terms
Feb 11 16:44:21 <mircea_popescu>	truffles that's sad for him now isn't it.
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Feb 11 16:44:44 <truffles>	unhappy customer is not good for business!
Feb 11 16:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	i don't happen to care.
Feb 11 16:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	i would much rather the consumer type customer dies hungry
Feb 11 16:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	than make me rich
Feb 11 16:45:07 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu, the miners need to hedge longer exposure than two months, especially when dealing with asic dealers
Feb 11 16:45:12 <truffles>	scrooge
Feb 11 16:45:25 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner the miners are roughly too clueless to comprehend x.idiff and why they can't run without them
Feb 11 16:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	in spite of ample marketing effort directed at their dumbass.
Feb 11 16:45:39 <Lyspooner>	that makes me sad
Feb 11 16:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	not as sad as it makes me.
Feb 11 16:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139787.0 check that shit out
Feb 11 16:46:18 <truffles>	lets all throw rotten tomatoes at mp
Feb 11 16:46:24 *	truffles throw tomato
Feb 11 16:46:29 <mircea_popescu>	truffles you new here i take it.
Feb 11 16:46:35 <truffles>	yes
Feb 11 16:46:42 <truffles>	i think im here approaching a week now
Feb 11 16:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Feb 11 16:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	so there's this new doohickey called a bitcoin.
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Feb 11 16:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	what it does is two things : it fucks governments so they can no longer finance welfarism
Feb 11 16:47:17 <mircea_popescu>	and it fucks over people so they can no longer expect others solve their shit for them
Feb 11 16:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	i love it equally for both reasons.
Feb 11 16:47:30 <truffles>	welfare is good for those who are disabled
Feb 11 16:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	i think you're not paying attention.
Feb 11 16:47:49 <pigeons>	take it to -politics
Feb 11 16:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	i am not trying to coopt your cooperation. i'm just telling you how it is.
Feb 11 16:47:57 <truffles>	but the ppl who like solving solve
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Feb 11 16:48:16 <Lyspooner>	how far out does x.diff go
Feb 11 16:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	full year.
Feb 11 16:48:34 <Lyspooner>	yeah, that's being underutilized
Feb 11 16:48:34 <jborkl>	Tell that to all the taxes I pay and I don't get shit back - ever
Feb 11 16:48:41 <truffles>	nobody thinks about the handicapers
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Feb 11 16:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner way. look here : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/how-to-hedge-as-a-miner/
Feb 11 16:49:32 <Lyspooner>	however, in the miners' defense, i don't think there is much paper interest on the other side of the transaction
Feb 11 16:49:51 <mircea_popescu>	there's plenty of speculative money on mpex, and they're not putting the orders in the book anyway
Feb 11 16:49:55 <truffles>	oh look another trilema linkey
Feb 11 16:49:58 <truffles>	tl dr
Feb 11 16:50:02 <jcpham>	tl:dr lots of numbers
Feb 11 16:50:05 <truffles>	oops didnt click
Feb 11 16:50:10 <truffles>	lol
Feb 11 16:50:37 <pigeons>	just use a proxy truffles
Feb 11 16:50:46 <truffles>	for what
Feb 11 16:51:07 <Lyspooner>	i think that you are not going to be successful at anything truffles, no matter by what standard you measure things
Feb 11 16:51:23 <truffles>	i havent found a really reliable proxy server for free so meh
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Feb 11 16:51:48 <pigeons>	see what you did
Feb 11 16:51:53 <truffles>	omg
Feb 11 16:52:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00063265 = 3.1 BTC [-]
Feb 11 16:52:00 <truffles>	he cant just say that and leave
Feb 11 16:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 11 16:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5364 @ 0.00063066 = 3.3829 BTC [-]
Feb 11 16:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00063046 = 3.5621 BTC [-]
Feb 11 16:52:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 686 @ 0.00062858 = 0.4312 BTC [-]
Feb 11 16:53:27 <truffles>	if there's anything holding me back its procrastination
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Feb 11 16:56:12 <truffles>	def gonna stalk that guy damit
Feb 11 16:59:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5423 @ 0.00062858 = 3.4088 BTC [-]
Feb 11 16:59:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3177 @ 0.00062683 = 1.9914 BTC [-]
Feb 11 16:59:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.758 = 7.58 BTC [-]
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Feb 11 17:00:05 <PsychoticBoy>	friendly enviorment
Feb 11 17:00:38 <truffles>	im a friendly person
Feb 11 17:05:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.759 = 7.59 BTC [+]
Feb 11 17:05:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.76 = 6.08 BTC [+]
Feb 11 17:06:36 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 11 17:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 11 17:06:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00556183 / 0.00606203 / 0.0064 (49421 shares, 299.59 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00571766 / 0.00739498 (4354487 shares, 24,897.50 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00556178 / 0.0075 (8437874 shares, 46,929.61 BTC)
Feb 11 17:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (0.76 - 0.00606203 * 100 * 95/100) * 18
Feb 11 17:07:56 <gribble>	3.3139287
Feb 11 17:08:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.76 = 7.6 BTC [+]
Feb 11 17:09:01 <truffles>	mp i am friendly!
Feb 11 17:09:47 <truffles>	there are less ppl in here so obv i type here
Feb 11 17:10:01 <truffles>	betting like half the ppl read the comments
Feb 11 17:12:02 <midnightmagic>	that's..  kind of creepy.
Feb 11 17:12:29 <midnightmagic>	"13:56 < truffles> def gonna stalk that guy damit"
Feb 11 17:12:43 <mircea_popescu>	so you're friendly, good for you. what of it ?
Feb 11 17:12:59 <truffles>	u laughed meaning u didnt believe me
Feb 11 17:13:18 <truffles>	i called it very interested midnightmagic
Feb 11 17:13:22 <truffles>	-ed
Feb 11 17:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	most stuff happening in this channel is not related to you.
Feb 11 17:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	i laughed at the price insanity.
Feb 11 17:13:38 <truffles>	ok
Feb 11 17:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11903 @ 0.00062683 = 7.4612 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:19:38 <truffles>	midnightmagic, dont u get the feeling bitcoiners are in a cult
Feb 11 17:20:25 *	truffles imagines the backlash if said in #bitcoin
Feb 11 17:21:39 <midnightmagic>	truffles: I get the feeling people looking in think it's a cult because the idea is strong enough to change minds. I also think people think all the psychopaths sniffing around the edges trying to fleece victims aren't doing us any favours, nor idiotic sites like silk road.
Feb 11 17:21:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00062944 = 7.1127 BTC [+]
Feb 11 17:22:48 <truffles>	i hear all the talk about sticking it to the system but can it
Feb 11 17:23:18 <truffles>	what about all the ppl without computers
Feb 11 17:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062944 = 5.004 BTC [+]
Feb 11 17:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00063265 = 3.353 BTC [+]
Feb 11 17:24:48 <kakobreklaa>	they got mobiles.
Feb 11 17:25:42 <truffles>	all the rich ppl can buy fast pcs and get most of the rewards
Feb 11 17:25:58 <kakobreklaa>	the what
Feb 11 17:26:04 <truffles>	btc
Feb 11 17:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is enough of that.
Feb 11 17:26:29 <truffles>	like this guy ^^
Feb 11 17:26:56 <kakobreklaa>	id guess you are on his ignore list by now.
Feb 11 17:27:10 <truffles>	i dont think so
Feb 11 17:27:20 <EskimoBob>	truffles: popescu is a lunatic with serious delusions. Pay no attention to this asshole :)
Feb 11 17:27:22 <truffles>	mp has a tolerance for me by now i think
Feb 11 17:27:54 <truffles>	lol some1 hates mp
Feb 11 17:28:28 <EskimoBob>	he is fucked up romanina scammer, who made few pennies with spamming and now thinks he is a king or something.
Feb 11 17:28:41 <truffles>	haha
Feb 11 17:28:59 <truffles>	i have a feeling he'd be that way without his pennies
Feb 11 17:29:27 <EskimoBob>	no, without the pennies he has no net connection
Feb 11 17:29:58 <truffles>	and no bitcoins by extension right
Feb 11 17:30:14 *	EskimoBob yawns
Feb 11 17:31:09 <EskimoBob>	so, you never heard of this joker ;)
Feb 11 17:31:15 <truffles>	nope
Feb 11 17:31:20 <truffles>	ive never heard of u either
Feb 11 17:31:29 <EskimoBob>	good, you have lost exactly nothing
Feb 11 17:31:39 <truffles>	i hope to keep it that way!
Feb 11 17:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00063521 = 1.9056 BTC [+]
Feb 11 17:31:51 <truffles>	in the mean time id like to hear what everyone think
Feb 11 17:31:53 <truffles>	s
Feb 11 17:32:06 <kakobreklaa>	i think its cute.
Feb 11 17:32:24 <truffles>	i think its interesting
Feb 11 17:33:22 <truffles>	1 person (or some others) think its a scam while others think its a genuine business endeavor
Feb 11 17:33:46 <truffles>	i'll hang around til i get banned or bored :)
Feb 11 17:34:50 <truffles>	eskimobob what has mp done to u so far?
Feb 11 17:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00062683 = 6.2996 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19568 @ 0.00062675 = 12.2642 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1032 @ 0.00062656 = 0.6466 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:35:39 <pigeons>	truffles: this is old, we dont want to hear it
Feb 11 17:35:51 <truffles>	lol i havent though
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Feb 11 17:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8673 @ 0.00062656 = 5.4342 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8061 @ 0.00062628 = 5.0484 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:40:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0626 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:40:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:41:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1226 @ 0.00062608 = 0.7676 BTC [-]
Feb 11 17:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00063136 = 1.7047 BTC [+]
Feb 11 17:49:06 <jurov>	lol that were my lil testing orders
Feb 11 17:49:30 <jurov>	at least no need to remove them now
Feb 11 17:50:07 <jurov>	truffles, how much do you want to pay for some juicy bit of history?
Feb 11 17:50:17 <jurov>	i'm sure i can dig something
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Feb 11 17:52:25 <truffles>	i will pay air btc
Feb 11 17:52:36 <truffles>	i.e. invisible ones
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Feb 11 17:54:51 <jurov>	payment accepted. so i present you this snippet featuring mircea_popescu: http://bash.org/?953990
Feb 11 17:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	Quote #953990 is pending moderation. ?
Feb 11 17:55:42 <mircea_popescu>	shenanigans, i call them.
Feb 11 17:56:01 <jurov>	he got equivalent value for air btcs.
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Feb 11 17:56:30 <jurov>	but once it will get unmoderated, it's really #bitcoin-assets quote, i've added myself
Feb 11 18:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://mywabashvalley.com/fulltext?nxd_id=292862
Feb 11 18:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	the news from indiana.
Feb 11 18:02:29 <Bugpowder_>	did u see the coffee enema addicts from florida?
Feb 11 18:02:42 <Bugpowder_>	;;ticker
Feb 11 18:02:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.48786, Best ask: 24.52214, Bid-ask spread: 0.03428, Last trade: 24.43271, 24 hour volume: 29403.49796069, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.54000, 24 hour vwap: 24.09918
Feb 11 18:03:03 <jurov>	lol http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/02/11/elon-musk-calls-nytimes-review-of-the-tesla-model-s-fake-citing-vehicle-log-data-as-proof/
Feb 11 18:03:06 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ yah
Feb 11 18:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	jurov omg they shoud be in bitcoin
Feb 11 18:03:20 <mircea_popescu>	delishious drama
Feb 11 18:04:06 <jurov>	yeah, maybe the reporter was btc miner and drained the battery :DD
Feb 11 18:04:17 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Feb 11 18:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	HASHING TESLA!
Feb 11 18:04:32 <mircea_popescu>	giving pool hopping a whole new mining.
Feb 11 18:04:57 <Bugpowder_>	lol
Feb 11 18:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	inb4 it turns out the tesla logging stuff had a bug in it
Feb 11 18:11:13 <mircea_popescu>	wait
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Feb 11 18:21:41 <jurov>	wait what?
Feb 11 18:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	nm lol
Feb 11 18:27:39 <jurov>	http://baselinescenario.com/2013/02/09/the-importance-of-excel/
Feb 11 18:28:33 <jurov>	my brother does even industry energy calculations in excel
Feb 11 18:28:59 <jurov>	recently asked me about help importing 500k data points from some measurements
Feb 11 18:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	why excel
Feb 11 18:29:39 <jurov>	cause excel. whole article/discussion is about that.
Feb 11 18:29:56 <jurov>	after a while i gave up and did it for him in perl
Feb 11 18:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	“After subtracting the old rate from the new rate, the spreadsheet divided by their sum instead of their average, as the modeler had intended. This error likely had the effect of muting volatility by a factor of two and of lowering the VaR . . .”
Feb 11 18:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	juicy.
Feb 11 18:30:29 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 11 18:30:30 <gribble>	1 BTC = 24.61000 U.S. dollars = 18.3793876 Euros
Feb 11 18:30:38 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 11 18:30:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.56393, Best ask: 24.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04607, Last trade: 24.61000, 24 hour volume: 30001.60733989, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.61000, 24 hour vwap: 24.11142
Feb 11 18:30:50 <jurov>	nice
Feb 11 18:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	Microsoft Excel is one of the greatest, most powerful, most important software applications of all time.**
Feb 11 18:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck.
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Feb 11 18:31:06 <mircea_popescu>	who writes this shit.
Feb 11 18:31:25 <mircea_popescu>	dude. gcc is one of the greatest, more powerful, most important software "applications", w/e that means, of all time.
Feb 11 18:31:28 <jurov>	sadly it's the opinion of most everybody, really
Feb 11 18:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	vi. emacs. gnupg.
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Feb 11 18:31:37 <mircea_popescu>	fuck excell. what's it even for ?!
Feb 11 18:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	vaguely related, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/
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Feb 11 18:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, "Wall Street doesn't have a great recent history with outside reviews either. JPMorgan and other banks recently shut down external reviews of their foreclosure practices"
Feb 11 18:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	it's not just mpex!
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Feb 11 18:50:16 <truffles>	i wonder what a decent phone looks like
Feb 11 18:53:02 <pigeons>	excel is a program to read microsoft's proprietary binary version of csv files
Feb 11 18:53:30 <pigeons>	oh yeah the newer ones are allegedly xml
Feb 11 18:53:31 <truffles>	u can do so much with excel
Feb 11 18:53:54 <truffles>	at least enough for the everyday layman
Feb 11 18:55:24 <truffles>	perl wont that restain what types of things u can do
Feb 11 19:09:28 <truffles>	u can input spreadsheets ...
Feb 11 19:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-mpex-is-better-than-fiat-institutions-part-349085-we-dont-use-excel/
Feb 11 19:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	all the juicy details of jpmorgan's embarassment included.
Feb 11 19:10:39 <truffles>	tl dr
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Feb 11 19:16:23 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 11 19:18:12 <truffles>	thought i got disconnected when there wasnt a ticker output hehe
Feb 11 19:19:15 <Bugpowder_>	come back assbot
Feb 11 19:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq_pe.html
Feb 11 19:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	check this shit out, mpex faq in farsi
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Feb 11 19:23:40 <truffles>	some1 is up late
Feb 11 19:24:14 <Bugpowder_>	u should get it in arabi
Feb 11 19:24:16 <Bugpowder_>	c
Feb 11 19:25:02 <Bugpowder_>	This site feels really professional now.  I think I can invest now.
Feb 11 19:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	i will get it in arabic
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Feb 11 19:29:25 <mod6>	the farsi looks awesome
Feb 11 19:29:48 <mod6>	not that i know what it says, lol. but it /looks/ awesome
Feb 11 19:30:02 <truffles>	english aint so bad
Feb 11 19:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	it does
Feb 11 19:30:15 <mircea_popescu>	both chinese and persian are actually very aesthetically pleasing notations
Feb 11 19:30:18 <pizzaman1337>	I hate how that language is aligned to the right side
Feb 11 19:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	well it;s one of thiose
Feb 11 19:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	speakingof which, the one i really have to get is hebrew
Feb 11 19:31:14 <mircea_popescu>	AND idish
Feb 11 19:31:21 <truffles>	the days of hieroglyphs are long gone
Feb 11 19:32:24 <pigeons>	how do you say "idiot" in farsi?
Feb 11 19:32:38 <jcpham>	<cough>
Feb 11 19:32:41 <mircea_popescu>	he coped out, said "stupids"
Feb 11 19:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	مردم احمق
Feb 11 19:33:42 <mod6>	haha
Feb 11 19:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	احمق being stoopid
Feb 11 19:34:07 <truffles>	looks like tattoos
Feb 11 19:35:21 <pigeons>	hey, my tatoo artist told me that meant "brave warrior"
Feb 11 19:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	seems accurate.
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Feb 11 19:37:34 <truffles>	 18 Year Old Russian Girl Gets Her Boyfriend's Name Tatted On Her Face: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmRWVQy95zo
Feb 11 19:37:44 <truffles>	looks like farsi to me
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Feb 11 19:48:40 <truffles>	" The problem with all the "professionals" is that they take forfuckingever to get anything useful and usable to you when you're trying to run an actual business."
Feb 11 19:48:58 <truffles>	im gonna use that ffe
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Feb 11 19:52:03 <truffles>	end cronyism and solve many problems imo
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Feb 11 19:54:42 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap eskimobob
Feb 11 19:54:44 *	gribble slaps eskimobob with a elicitory torture
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Feb 11 19:59:41 <DeadWeas1l>	;;ticker
Feb 11 19:59:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.51079, Best ask: 24.54000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02921, Last trade: 24.51079, 24 hour volume: 31430.66254096, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.67503, 24 hour vwap: 24.16444
Feb 11 20:00:25 <truffles>	going up up up
Feb 11 20:01:28 *	DeadWeas1l is now known as DeadWeasel
Feb 11 20:07:31 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 25
Feb 11 20:07:33 <gribble>	There are currently 9260.6569 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 229947.752117 USD in total.
Feb 11 20:07:44 <DeadWeasel>	;;bids 24.5
Feb 11 20:07:46 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Feb 11 20:07:55 <DeadWeasel>	;;bids 24
Feb 11 20:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell evoorhees https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77870.msg1520259#msg1520259 he has a point there
Feb 11 20:07:57 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Feb 11 20:07:57 <gribble>	There are currently 2032.1217 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.0 USD, worth 49120.3990789 USD in total.
Feb 11 20:18:01 <DeadWeasel>	;;bids 23
Feb 11 20:18:03 <gribble>	There are currently 10428.055 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.0 USD, worth 245554.642353 USD in total.
Feb 11 20:18:09 <DeadWeasel>	;;bids 24
Feb 11 20:18:11 <gribble>	There are currently 1774.9244 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.0 USD, worth 42951.1478531 USD in total.
Feb 11 20:18:14 <pigeons>	http://i.imgur.com/FO5bs3O.png
Feb 11 20:18:43 <kakobreklaa>	lol
Feb 11 20:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha nowai ?
Feb 11 20:19:02 <DeadWeasel>	who is that woman?  i see here everyone online
Feb 11 20:19:09 <DeadWeasel>	everwhere*
Feb 11 20:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's the fearsome mpoe-pr
Feb 11 20:20:28 <truffles>	looks like a ball buster
Feb 11 20:21:54 <pigeons>	picture from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92969.msg1519140#msg1519140
Feb 11 20:22:15 <DeadWeasel>	that your PR front MP?
Feb 11 20:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	my pr, yes.
Feb 11 20:23:08 <DeadWeasel>	it couldn't hurt.
Feb 11 20:24:25 <pigeons>	heh, you would think
Feb 11 20:24:38 <pigeons>	if you were to just guess
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Feb 11 20:25:53 <DeadWeasel>	i'm a great guesser.
Feb 11 20:26:12 <pigeons>	apparently not
Feb 11 20:26:40 *	DeadWeasel guesses the price of bitcoin will go up or down
Feb 11 20:26:44 <DeadWeasel>	bam!
Feb 11 20:27:04 <DeadWeasel>	hard to argue with an idiot, eh?
Feb 11 20:28:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13606324795.jpg have a prize
Feb 11 20:28:57 <DeadWeasel>	plastic wrapped. that must mean they're fresh
Feb 11 20:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 11 20:32:39 <truffles>	takes a lot of work to ruin pizza
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Feb 11 20:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 11 20:49:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.44617, Best ask: 24.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05383, Last trade: 24.44617, 24 hour volume: 31371.13774248, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.67503, 24 hour vwap: 24.18070
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Feb 11 20:50:46 <gabridome>	!help
Feb 11 20:52:02 <mircea_popescu>	gabridome what are you trying to do ?
Feb 11 20:52:29 <gabridome>	hi just to obtain command help..
Feb 11 20:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think assbot has a help implemented.
Feb 11 20:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much what it does is
Feb 11 20:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 11 20:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	sort of thing
Feb 11 20:53:10 <mircea_popescu>	gribble is
Feb 11 20:53:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;help
Feb 11 20:53:14 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Feb 11 20:53:41 <gabridome>	thanks
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Feb 11 20:55:27 <gabridome>	!facts
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Feb 11 21:04:32 <truffles>	no such thing as facts ldo
Feb 11 21:05:23 <DeadWeasel>	dafuq you goin on about truffles?
Feb 11 21:05:42 <DeadWeasel>	!facts?
Feb 11 21:05:43 <truffles>	<gabridome> !facts
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Feb 11 21:05:55 <DeadWeasel>	ah, my bad.
Feb 11 21:06:03 <DeadWeasel>	good night you crazy twats, make some money.
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Feb 11 21:16:37 <gabridome>	 <truffles> they suggested to begin with !facts. Sorry. That's what I am (a beginner)
Feb 11 21:18:48 <truffles>	i saw ;;guide...
Feb 11 21:18:58 <truffles>	but thats for ppl who read
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Feb 11 21:40:39 <gabridome>	;;guide
Feb 11 21:40:40 <gribble>	Error: "guide" is not a valid command.
Feb 11 21:41:13 <truffles>	oops
Feb 11 21:41:38 <gabridome>	;;guide...
Feb 11 21:41:41 <gribble>	Error: "guide..." is not a valid command.
Feb 11 21:41:48 <truffles>	lol its not valid
Feb 11 21:41:49 <gabridome>	oops
Feb 11 21:41:51 <truffles>	umm
Feb 11 21:41:58 <truffles>	!help
Feb 11 21:42:06 <truffles>	;;help
Feb 11 21:42:07 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Feb 11 21:42:09 <gabridome>	already done
Feb 11 21:42:17 <gabridome>	it was wrutten on top
Feb 11 21:42:33 <truffles>	it was on my todo list to read those
Feb 11 21:42:37 <gabridome>	;;help
Feb 11 21:42:38 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Feb 11 21:42:45 <gabridome>	yeah!
Feb 11 21:43:03 <truffles>	so rly u should be reading that website
Feb 11 21:44:36 <gabridome>	yeah I should. I'll take a tour. too much studying for tonight. Thank you
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Feb 11 21:45:00 <truffles>	i helped some1 else in assets woot
Feb 11 21:49:20 <Bugpowder>	I the world of the blind, a one-eyed man is king.
Feb 11 21:49:36 <Bugpowder>	assbot is down right now
Feb 11 21:49:48 <Bugpowder>	dont worry about reading the website
Feb 11 21:49:58 <Bugpowder>	just hang out and watch when people type shit in
Feb 11 21:50:04 <Bugpowder>	after a few months you will get it
Feb 11 21:50:09 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 25
Feb 11 21:50:11 <gribble>	There are currently 8521.275 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 211770.378504 USD in total.
Feb 11 21:50:14 <truffles>	i get it
Feb 11 21:50:15 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 23
Feb 11 21:50:17 <gribble>	There are currently 11213.205 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.0 USD, worth 264237.923713 USD in total.
Feb 11 21:50:23 <truffles>	ppl say the same things daily
Feb 11 21:50:26 <Bugpowder>	;;market 8000
Feb 11 21:50:27 <gribble>	Error: The "Market" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "8000" in it.  Try "list Market" to see the commands in the "Market" plugin.
Feb 11 21:50:30 <Bugpowder>	damn
Feb 11 21:50:32 <Bugpowder>	see
Feb 11 21:50:37 <Bugpowder>	I don't know that one yet
Feb 11 21:51:01 <Bugpowder>	I miss assbot
Feb 11 21:51:06 <truffles>	id 1st have to understand the output
Feb 11 21:51:42 <truffles>	i dunno if im faithful enough to want to dip into the cult of bitcoin
Feb 11 21:54:05 <Bugpowder>	you are here and don't have bitcoins?
Feb 11 21:54:06 <Bugpowder>	dude
Feb 11 21:54:17 <Bugpowder>	what are you doing then?
Feb 11 21:54:29 <truffles>	learning?
Feb 11 21:54:46 <Bugpowder>	do u have any coins?
Feb 11 21:54:52 <truffles>	nope
Feb 11 21:54:56 <Bugpowder>	OK well
Feb 11 21:55:10 <Bugpowder>	I would wait till the price falls below 20 before buying.
Feb 11 21:55:12 <truffles>	i have cents quantity of bitcoin
Feb 11 21:55:19 <Bugpowder>	If you care patient, 15
Feb 11 21:55:21 <Bugpowder>	or 12
Feb 11 21:55:27 <truffles>	yea!
Feb 11 21:55:41 <truffles>	i dunno about buying though
Feb 11 21:56:23 <truffles>	just takes me a while to process the info so i'll have to see how it goes
Feb 11 21:56:39 <Bugpowder>	thats the only way to get coins
Feb 11 21:56:52 <truffles>	pool?
Feb 11 21:56:57 <Bugpowder>	mining?
Feb 11 21:57:01 <truffles>	ya
Feb 11 21:57:04 <Bugpowder>	waste of money
Feb 11 21:57:11 <Bugpowder>	much more efficient to buy
Feb 11 21:57:18 <Bugpowder>	but not at $25
Feb 11 21:57:23 <truffles>	def not
Feb 11 21:57:31 <Bugpowder>	mining will be dead soon
Feb 11 21:57:36 <truffles>	waste of money to use ur own pc why
Feb 11 21:57:47 <Bugpowder>	do you have an ATI card?
Feb 11 21:57:51 <Bugpowder>	5850?
Feb 11 21:57:56 <truffles>	no...
Feb 11 21:58:21 <truffles>	weighing my options !
Feb 11 21:58:24 <Bugpowder>	well.
Feb 11 21:58:30 <Bugpowder>	at $25....
Feb 11 21:58:36 <Bugpowder>	Lets seel
Feb 11 21:58:43 <Bugpowder>	360MH
Feb 11 21:58:53 <Bugpowder>	there is a gribble command for this
Feb 11 21:59:46 <Bugpowder>	;;genrate 360
Feb 11 21:59:47 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 360.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3275464.58657, is 0.0552734859835 BTC per day and 0.00230306191598 BTC per hour.
Feb 11 21:59:56 <truffles>	i like the idea of taking control of your own destiny but kinda need money to make money
Feb 11 22:00:11 <Bugpowder>	;;calc .055*24
Feb 11 22:00:11 <gribble>	1.32
Feb 11 22:00:17 <Bugpowder>	nah
Feb 11 22:00:20 <Bugpowder>	not a good idea
Feb 11 22:00:32 <Bugpowder>	prob $100 per card
Feb 11 22:00:47 <Bugpowder>	difficulty will rise to fast to make it worth it
Feb 11 22:00:50 <Bugpowder>	most likely
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Feb 11 22:01:29 <truffles>	i came in #bitcoins looking to buy em but nah
Feb 11 22:01:37 <Bugpowder>	Try coinbase
Feb 11 22:01:51 <Bugpowder>	if u are only doing 10BTC or less
Feb 11 22:01:57 <Bugpowder>	for now
Feb 11 22:02:00 <truffles>	getting them inst the issue
Feb 11 22:02:02 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 11 22:02:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.59000, Best ask: 24.68898, Bid-ask spread: 0.09898, Last trade: 24.68898, 24 hour volume: 32108.90032419, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.69999, 24 hour vwap: 24.20298
Feb 11 22:02:48 <truffles>	its playmoney to me
Feb 11 22:02:49 <Bugpowder>	fuk yea
Feb 11 22:02:56 <Bugpowder>	it was for me too
Feb 11 22:03:05 <Bugpowder>	now its getting more serious
Feb 11 22:03:15 <Bugpowder>	consequence of buying at $2.65
Feb 11 22:03:21 <truffles>	gonna crash n burn just as fast
Feb 11 22:04:15 <truffles>	i havent made a concrete decision one way or the other on it
Feb 11 22:04:16 <Bugpowder>	probably faster
Feb 11 22:04:30 <Bugpowder>	I hope to have a lot of puts when it happens.
Feb 11 22:07:13 <aiball>	coinbase upped my limit to 100 BTC
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Feb 11 22:10:07 <Bugpowder>	 ya
Feb 11 22:10:11 <Bugpowder>	after a month?
Feb 11 22:10:16 <Chaang-Noi>	;;market 25
Feb 11 22:10:17 <gribble>	Error: The "Market" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "25" in it.  Try "list Market" to see the commands in the "Market" plugin.
Feb 11 22:10:25 <Bugpowder>	;;list Market
Feb 11 22:10:25 <gribble>	asks, bids, buy, sell, and ticker
Feb 11 22:10:35 <Chaang-Noi>	;; buy 25
Feb 11 22:10:36 <gribble>	(buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include (1 more message)
Feb 11 22:10:39 <Bugpowder>	;;market buy 25
Feb 11 22:10:41 <gribble>	A market order to buy 25 bitcoins right now would take 616.7138 USD and would take the last price up to 24.6890 USD, resulting in an average price of 24.6686 USD/BTC.
Feb 11 22:10:55 <Chaang-Noi>	lol thanks, i need my coffee
Feb 11 22:10:55 <Bugpowder>	;;market sell 4270
Feb 11 22:10:58 <gribble>	A market order to sell 4270 bitcoins right now would net 102663.9074 USD and would take the last price down to 23.7000 USD, resulting in an average price of 24.0431 USD/BTC.
Feb 11 22:11:13 <Chaang-Noi>	i was trying to see how many coins were left to 25, i know there is a command
Feb 11 22:11:20 <Chaang-Noi>	;;market buy 8000
Feb 11 22:11:22 <gribble>	A market order to buy 8000 bitcoins right now would take 198791.2269 USD and would take the last price up to 25.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 24.8489 USD/BTC.
Feb 11 22:11:26 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 25
Feb 11 22:11:32 <gribble>	There are currently 8479.5104 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 210778.987517 USD in total.
Feb 11 22:11:42 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah asks, thanks
Feb 11 22:11:49 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 30
Feb 11 22:11:51 <gribble>	There are currently 22686.974 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 608554.910033 USD in total.
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Feb 11 22:12:04 <Chaang-Noi>	once we hit 25, right up to 30 in a day or so?
Feb 11 22:13:18 <Bugpowder>	nah
Feb 11 22:13:23 <Bugpowder>	thats what I thought about 20
Feb 11 22:13:29 <Bugpowder>	but asks fill in
Feb 11 22:13:34 <Bugpowder>	as the price rises
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Feb 11 22:13:55 <Bugpowder>	Were were doing .35BTC a day for 24 days.... pace is picking up a bit now
Feb 11 22:14:15 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/OlBhoE6.jpg
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Feb 11 22:20:05 <Bugpowder>	lack of assbot driving me crazy
Feb 11 22:20:13 <Bugpowder>	MPOE is creeping up
Feb 11 22:20:20 <truffles>	lol
Feb 11 22:20:33 <truffles>	u got a compulsion to type random commands huh
Feb 11 22:21:09 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Feb 11 22:22:05 <Bugpowder>	hmm.... multiple ambulances rolling into the institute
Feb 11 22:22:11 <Bugpowder>	not a good sign
Feb 11 22:22:33 <aiball>	what institute?
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Feb 11 22:30:46 <Chaang-Noi>	windows just told me my hdd is failing, how can i check it?
Feb 11 22:31:46 <truffles>	open it and check
Feb 11 22:31:54 <Bugpowder>	silly walks
Feb 11 22:32:08 <Chaang-Noi>	its my C drive
Feb 11 22:32:26 <Bugpowder>	step 1
Feb 11 22:32:29 <Bugpowder>	insert usb
Feb 11 22:32:33 <Bugpowder>	step 2
Feb 11 22:32:35 <Bugpowder>	copy wallet.dat
Feb 11 22:32:36 <truffles>	maybe /sfc scannow
Feb 11 22:32:58 <Chaang-Noi>	first thing i did was send out all of the btc :)
Feb 11 22:33:12 <Chaang-Noi>	its a low funded hotwallet but i still ahve 10 btc on it
Feb 11 22:33:28 <truffles>	10 more than me
Feb 11 22:35:03 <Chaang-Noi>	windows task manager is not responding, lol    oh this computer is so fail
Feb 11 22:35:25 <Bugpowder>	DPRK nuke test
Feb 11 22:35:35 <Bugpowder>	according to twitter
Feb 11 22:35:51 <truffles>	u didnt do the scannow in cmd
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Feb 11 22:36:23 <truffles>	command prompt
Feb 11 22:36:36 <Chaang-Noi>	i cant do much, its laggy as hell all of the sudden
Feb 11 22:36:49 <truffles>	u can do it from the c folder also
Feb 11 22:37:01 <Chaang-Noi>	trying to save data, getting IO errors
Feb 11 22:37:05 <truffles>	close all browsers ldo
Feb 11 22:37:45 <Bugpowder>	http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usc000f5t0#summary
Feb 11 22:37:57 *	truffles had my fair share of windows problems
Feb 11 22:38:22 <truffles>	didnt feel a thing
Feb 11 22:38:39 <aiball>	holy s. bugpowder
Feb 11 22:39:27 <Bugpowder>	4.9 seems awful big for a nuke
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Feb 11 22:41:21 <Bugpowder>	Michael van Poppel ‏@mpoppel Location of N. Korea seismic activity is at the exact same coordinates as the one from 2009 nuke test.
Feb 11 22:41:39 <Bugpowder>	1 kiloton does about a 2.9
Feb 11 22:43:18 <Chaang-Noi>	the hdd is bad, im sure of it, ah man...
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Feb 11 22:44:01 <truffles>	right click (c:), tools, scan for errors
Feb 11 22:47:28 <Bugpowder>	 1 kiloton nuke detonated underground creates an earthquake of a magnitude about 2.7... soooo 200kton?
Feb 11 22:48:23 <Bugpowder>	http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/2005/11/00_starr_effects-of-300-kiloton-detonation-diagram.jpg
Feb 11 22:48:38 <pigeons>	Chaang-Noi: http://fallenred.net/defraggle/
Feb 11 22:49:51 <truffles>	or hit defrag under tools also
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Feb 11 22:51:06 <pigeons>	that doesnt physically defraggle
Feb 11 22:51:25 <BitHub>	;;seen rxw
Feb 11 22:51:26 <gribble>	I have not seen rxw.
Feb 11 22:53:04 <aiball>	my math says 100 kiloton - heading over to s.bbet now
Feb 11 22:53:19 <truffles>	pigeon huh?
Feb 11 22:53:40 <BitHub>	anybody selling off their asicminer share?
Feb 11 22:53:42 <BitHub>	s
Feb 11 22:54:03 <pigeons>	if you have a lot of junk mail and viruses you need to brush the heads with a toothbrush as shown in the diagram truffles
Feb 11 22:55:20 <truffles>	that looks dangerous
Feb 11 22:55:48 <truffles>	like slip out of my hands and just slam
Feb 11 22:55:53 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah pigeons, i dont think that will help :/ but it took my like 2 mins to open it, lol
Feb 11 22:56:25 <truffles>	did u scan yet
Feb 11 22:56:35 <pigeons>	we dont have svinto here but any steel wool will do
Feb 11 22:56:58 <Chaang-Noi>	im trying to copy over all data i can right now, something are lost...
Feb 11 22:57:01 <truffles>	that requires more expertise than we have lol
Feb 11 22:57:24 <truffles>	chaang just say no
Feb 11 22:57:35 <truffles>	u ignored my advice ok
Feb 11 22:57:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i cant open the command prompt
Feb 11 22:58:04 <Chaang-Noi>	it just says searching forever
Feb 11 22:58:10 <truffles>	i gave u an alternative
Feb 11 22:58:23 <truffles>	in the my computer area!
Feb 11 22:58:32 <Chaang-Noi>	oh ill have to go back and read, im kinda distracted trying to save data :/
Feb 11 22:58:32 <Ukto>	whats all this ?
Feb 11 22:58:40 <Ukto>	was there a nuke fail in n. korea ?
Feb 11 22:58:41 <Chaang-Noi>	ukto my hdd is failing
Feb 11 22:58:51 <Ukto>	save what you can
Feb 11 22:58:51 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah that too, i think it hurt my hdd
Feb 11 22:58:52 <Ukto>	replace it
Feb 11 22:59:01 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah that is what im doing right now ukto, thanks
Feb 11 22:59:06 <Chaang-Noi>	bitcoins are safe:)
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Feb 11 23:01:30 <Chaang-Noi>	truffles okay i did what you said but i cant do it while im using it, and im using it to save data :/
Feb 11 23:01:42 <Chaang-Noi>	lol he quit
Feb 11 23:04:55 <BitHub>	what's something safe i can put my bitcoin into to make 1btc a day out of it, and how much btc would i need to bankroll it with?
Feb 11 23:05:28 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol, safe? risk free free money?
Feb 11 23:05:53 <BitHub>	well i know nothing is 100% risk free, but minimual risk
Feb 11 23:06:22 <Chaang-Noi>	no idea, i keep my wallet offline in a safe, iv lost on just about every investment i have ever done
Feb 11 23:06:39 <BitHub>	hmmm
Feb 11 23:06:55 *	BitHub slaps himself, why didn't i just buy an avalon
Feb 11 23:07:16 <Chaang-Noi>	hae they shipped more than 2 units?
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Feb 11 23:15:42 <pigeons>	i hear customers in china received them
Feb 11 23:17:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i heard that someone in china posted a photo, but it looked like avalon just promoting it, but you might have more info than i.
Feb 11 23:17:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i do wish i had one though...
Feb 11 23:19:14 <pigeons>	yeah i'd like to have one right now too
Feb 11 23:20:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i really thought about it but invested in asic-miner, then glbse fail cuz i got delisted so i lost it all
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Feb 11 23:21:55 <Chaang-Noi>	well im going to install windows or maybe mint this time.. see ya all alter
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Feb 11 23:36:23 <Bowjob>	ooh
Feb 11 23:36:25 <Bowjob>	another faq
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Feb 12 04:49:38 <Bowjob>	so the pope just gave his two weeks notice
Feb 12 04:50:29 <EskimoBob>	Bowjob: ?
Feb 12 04:50:51 <Bowjob>	pope benedict is resigning
Feb 12 04:50:54 <EskimoBob>	oh that one
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Feb 12 04:52:02 <EskimoBob>	oldest scam in the world - religion.
Feb 12 04:54:45 <EskimoBob>	I guess he started to feel guilty for all the greed driven circus
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Feb 12 05:07:04 <Bowjob>	well it wasnt him that did it
Feb 12 05:07:07 <Bowjob>	hes prolly too old
Feb 12 05:07:33 <Bowjob>	according to the rules, an unmarried cathlolic male can be pope
Feb 12 05:08:22 <Bowjob>	hey. i guess im eligible.. I'll introduce 1.2 billion people to bitcoins if i get elected
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Feb 12 05:09:42 <Namworld>	Anyone needed an alarm that sounds off if price goes under or over a certain price?
Feb 12 05:10:26 <Namworld>	http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/
Feb 12 05:10:40 <Namworld>	I know I needed and the ones I found were no longer working
Feb 12 05:11:15 <Bowjob>	nam
Feb 12 05:11:17 <Bowjob>	it doesnt work
Feb 12 05:12:06 <Namworld>	the sound?
Feb 12 05:12:24 <Namworld>	It does in Chrome. I use audio tag.
Feb 12 05:15:39 <Namworld>	got it working?
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Feb 12 05:37:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/11/article-2276884-17841A9A000005DC-22_634x815.jpg
Feb 12 05:37:04 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Feb 12 05:37:34 <Namworld>	http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/
Feb 12 05:37:49 <Namworld>	@mircea
Feb 12 05:38:54 <Namworld>	A new tool to have an eye on price 24/7 for trading options
Feb 12 05:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol kinda cool.
Feb 12 05:39:56 <ThickerThanThiev>	$25.20
Feb 12 05:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/225/bitcoin-to-surpass-gold-value-in-2013/
Feb 12 05:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's a pretty interestin bet...
Feb 12 05:40:56 <Namworld>	per gram/oz/kg?
Feb 12 05:40:56 <BitHub>	go with no on that one
Feb 12 05:41:01 <Namworld>	because per gram, maybe
Feb 12 05:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	per 31ths of ounce comex price
Feb 12 05:41:31 <BitHub>	doubtful
Feb 12 05:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	atm its 2:3
Feb 12 05:41:49 <mircea_popescu>	hence interesting
Feb 12 05:41:56 <Bowjob>	25 dollars
Feb 12 05:41:57 <BitHub>	so it is per gram?
Feb 12 05:41:58 <Bowjob>	holy shit
Feb 12 05:42:01 <Namworld>	ah, then yeah
Feb 12 05:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's per 1/31th of ounce
Feb 12 05:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	so practically grams yea
Feb 12 05:42:19 <BitHub>	yes 31 grams in a troy ounce
Feb 12 05:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	31.1
Feb 12 05:42:23 <BitHub>	why don't they just say that
Feb 12 05:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	prolly lazy
Feb 12 05:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	also gold grams aren't really priced anywherew
Feb 12 05:42:41 <BitHub>	create confusion
Feb 12 05:42:43 <Bowjob>	So.. where are the bears
Feb 12 05:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	what's gold atm, 1650 ?
Feb 12 05:43:02 <BitHub>	around 50 a gram or something
Feb 12 05:43:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1650 / 31
Feb 12 05:43:10 <gribble>	53.2258064516
Feb 12 05:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Feb 12 05:43:38 <BitHub>	it could beat it
Feb 12 05:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/11/cnn-anchor-blames-asteroid-on-global-warming/
Feb 12 05:43:47 <BitHub>	does it just have to go over it, or by end of year it has to be over it?
Feb 12 05:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	this has to be the last word in libertard lmao
Feb 12 05:44:38 <Namworld>	Well anyway, I'm out
Feb 12 05:44:45 <Namworld>	goodbye
Feb 12 05:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	sleep tight
Feb 12 05:44:49 <ThickerThanThiev>	adios
Feb 12 05:44:51 <Bowjob>	at this rate, we
Feb 12 05:44:56 <Bowjob>	w'd see 3 digits
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Feb 12 05:45:01 <Bowjob>	soon
Feb 12 05:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	i love bitcoin, it fucks over people's sleep.
Feb 12 05:45:08 <Bowjob>	yah
Feb 12 05:45:13 <Bowjob>	25 dollars
Feb 12 05:45:14 <Bowjob>	holy shit
Feb 12 05:45:37 <Bowjob>	i shoulda dumped at least 10k on this thing
Feb 12 05:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 12 05:45:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.28000, Best ask: 25.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 25.30000, 24 hour volume: 38689.86085846, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 25.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.44526
Feb 12 05:45:45 <ThickerThanThiev>	look at the goxlive
Feb 12 05:45:47 <Bowjob>	woulda been ballsy
Feb 12 05:45:51 <mircea_popescu>	well, shoulda coulda woulda...
Feb 12 05:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	prolly too late by now
Feb 12 05:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	or is it ?
Feb 12 05:45:58 <ThickerThanThiev>	http://mtgoxlive.com/orders
Feb 12 05:46:01 <Bowjob>	ooh
Feb 12 05:46:24 <Bowjob>	id be damned if btc reaches 1k
Feb 12 05:46:24 <Bowjob>	ea'
Feb 12 05:46:27 <Bowjob>	O_O
Feb 12 05:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	30 looks possible.
Feb 12 05:46:33 <Bowjob>	id be a lazy fat cat
Feb 12 05:46:39 <Bowjob>	if that happens
Feb 12 05:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	i'll prolly be having dinners at the white house, if tht happens
Feb 12 05:47:22 <Bowjob>	so mp, hows the trolling contest no
Feb 12 05:47:23 <Bowjob>	w
Feb 12 05:47:27 <Bowjob>	anything notable?
Feb 12 05:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	well... so far buncha sa selfowning
Feb 12 05:48:03 <Bowjob>	that forum looks disgusting
Feb 12 05:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	but nothing substantial.
Feb 12 05:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	they're basically a buncha bitcoiners w/o bitcoin
Feb 12 05:48:27 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 12 05:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	but with equal faith in collectivism, being nice and whatnot
Feb 12 05:48:46 <mircea_popescu>	a, and the various craps du jour. helping fags, women, niggers etc.
Feb 12 05:48:59 <mircea_popescu>	saving da planet, and whales
Feb 12 05:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	i forget what all is on the list.
Feb 12 05:49:35 <Bowjob>	mp for prez
Feb 12 05:50:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol noty.
Feb 12 05:50:52 <Bowjob>	u dont really have to do much just play gold
Feb 12 05:50:53 <Bowjob>	golf
Feb 12 05:51:15 <mircea_popescu>	i dont like golf.
Feb 12 05:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	i'd much rather just walk in a town than on a pasture.
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Feb 12 05:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	hey kakobreklaa, would it be possible for assbot to have a !last x y which'd replay the last trade of y on x ?
Feb 12 05:56:54 <Bowjob>	buying a 1 bedroom condo in dt vancouver, 5 BTC pm me
Feb 12 05:57:09 <mircea_popescu>	1 bedroom condos ?!
Feb 12 05:57:16 <Bowjob>	mhm?
Feb 12 05:57:19 <Bowjob>	yap
Feb 12 05:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	these seriously exist ?!
Feb 12 05:57:33 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 12 05:57:34 <Bowjob>	why
Feb 12 05:57:46 <mircea_popescu>	i thought condo-ing was a sort of upscale affair
Feb 12 05:58:03 <Bowjob>	I typed 1 bedroom condo in google
Feb 12 05:58:11 <Bowjob>	it showed an ad in vancouver
Feb 12 05:58:15 <Bowjob>	maybe its a vancouver thing
Feb 12 05:58:29 <Bowjob>	here, condos are relatively cheap. detached houses are a million bucks each
Feb 12 05:58:30 <mircea_popescu>	hey. learn something new everyday
Feb 12 05:58:56 <Bowjob>	i know in other countries condos are expensive and detatched houses are cheap
Feb 12 05:58:58 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, seems it's 90% a canada thing
Feb 12 06:00:04 <Bowjob>	well, here in vancouver the homeowners rent their basement out to pay for mortgage
Feb 12 06:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	haha literally basement dwellers ?
Feb 12 06:00:20 <Bowjob>	since no one can pony up a million bucks
Feb 12 06:00:23 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 12 06:00:51 <Bowjob>	actually we started as basement dwellers.. until we switched to a house
Feb 12 06:01:07 <Bowjob>	mortgage is insane, 2k a month
Feb 12 06:01:10 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 12 06:01:21 <Ukto>	Bowjob: next time I fly out that way, we can meet up
Feb 12 06:01:27 <Bowjob>	but. parents are paying so im getting a free ride.
Feb 12 06:02:10 <Bowjob>	i wouldnt buy this house even if i had the money but its pretty nice
Feb 12 06:02:15 <Ukto>	actually, Bowjob, if your interested, I have someone who is looking to buy weex CAD
Feb 12 06:03:12 <Bowjob>	btc to cad?
Feb 12 06:03:33 <Ukto>	actually, he just needs a canuk to deposit cad into weex so he can hold weex cad
Feb 12 06:03:46 <Ukto>	not sure how he wants to settle up
Feb 12 06:03:49 <EskimoBob>	Bowjob: you call that expensive? Did you forget, we are still in recession :)
Feb 12 06:03:58 <Ukto>	but you would need a bank account at rbc, scotia, td or BoM
Feb 12 06:04:31 <Bowjob>	Ah. I'm with a credit union
Feb 12 06:04:38 <Bowjob>	free debit card..
Feb 12 06:04:49 <Ukto>	ah
Feb 12 06:04:59 <Ukto>	thanks then. just trying to put people together. :)
Feb 12 06:05:01 <Bowjob>	td is charging 15 dollars per month for a debit
Feb 12 06:06:06 <Bowjob>	lol im not really a canuck. i didnt participate in the riots
Feb 12 06:06:13 <knotwork>	thats insane. Royal gave me a free debit caard that masquerades on the net as a credit card
Feb 12 06:07:29 <Bowjob>	ooh. they are now charging 2 dollars to deposit paper money .. per 1000
Feb 12 06:07:32 <Bowjob>	wtf is this
Feb 12 06:07:47 <Bowjob>	oh wait its business account lol
Feb 12 06:09:05 <EskimoBob>	Bowjob: they want you to use cards only for business. Cash is the new evil, all the banks are fighting against
Feb 12 06:12:30 <mircea_popescu>	heh the amusements continue i see
Feb 12 06:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Feb 12 06:12:47 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Feb 12 06:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:756619e2969805ca04cc00f67579d291c815df246f20807f9c7515ea
Feb 12 06:13:17 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Feb 12 06:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate fbastage -10 Never interacted with the guy. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695
Feb 12 06:13:59 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system.
Feb 12 06:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	doh ?!
Feb 12 06:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:756619e2969805ca04cc00f67579d291c815df246f20807f9c7515ea
Feb 12 06:14:19 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Feb 12 06:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate fbastage -10 Never interacted with the guy. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695
Feb 12 06:14:23 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user fbastage has been recorded.
Feb 12 06:14:34 <BitHub>	anybody ever try out mpex, what's it like?
Feb 12 06:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate eskimobob -10 Never interacted with the guy. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695
Feb 12 06:15:46 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user eskimobob has been recorded.
Feb 12 06:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	heh that's not accurate is it.
Feb 12 06:16:17 <Bowjob>	i didnt know arabic text is from right to left
Feb 12 06:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate eskimobob -10 #bitcoin-asset's premier angry clueless noob. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695
Feb 12 06:16:32 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user eskimobob has changed from -10 to -10.
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Feb 12 06:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob yeah, most middle eastern languages are like that.
Feb 12 06:19:18 <EskimoBob>	LOL @ mircea_popescu
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Feb 12 06:22:43 <EskimoBob>	it will not change that you think like and act like thieve. So, go and hang yourself. (yes, I know you log and read your "ignore" list) LOL
Feb 12 06:29:05 <mircea_popescu>	haha this is rich : lowtax joins btctalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22158
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Feb 12 06:30:09 <knotwork>	If you are pretty confident bitcoins are just going to generally keep going up and up, are options of much use, or are they generally mostly useful if you are uncertain thus want to hedge against your uncertainty?
Feb 12 06:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	this question presuposes that one's state of mind is more important than reality.
Feb 12 06:31:18 <mircea_popescu>	this is not the case.
Feb 12 06:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	however people feel is irrelevant. we don't know for a fact nor is there any clear mathematical proof that btc only goes up.
Feb 12 06:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	consequently, hedging is both responsible and required.
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Feb 12 06:38:45 <knotwork>	so options are useful to insure against it going down but not a means to increase the profit one is making from it going up?
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Feb 12 06:45:53 <mjr_>	hi all
Feb 12 06:46:54 <leotreasure>	you can make money going up too
Feb 12 06:47:26 <leotreasure>	but you usually need to buy below the ask price to have any kind of chance
Feb 12 06:47:43 <mjr_>	you can also arb the exchanges
Feb 12 06:47:57 <mjr_>	specifically if you are fast on the other exchanges you can get better than mt. gox
Feb 12 06:48:16 <knotwork>	thats not options though
Feb 12 06:48:43 <mjr_>	coinbase is too fast...but especially overnight, if you go on camp bx or bitfloor...people leave their limit orders up and you can get a bunch under $25
Feb 12 06:49:04 <knotwork>	maybe if one could find someone willing to buy a put at current price you could make money going up due to they wont exercise it
Feb 12 06:49:05 <pizzaman1337>	btc-e too
Feb 12 06:49:06 <BitHub>	hey leo, was it you i was talking to about the aud law and stuff?
Feb 12 06:49:21 <leotreasure>	hey BitHub yes it was
Feb 12 06:49:25 <mjr_>	but yeah, options are tough, i just got calls so i wouldn't get left behind
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Feb 12 06:49:33 <mjr_>	the 17 strike option was a good deal i think
Feb 12 06:49:39 <BitHub>	ahh, how did you go, get anymore answers to your questions?
Feb 12 06:49:47 <BitHub>	i checked out the site today
Feb 12 06:49:54 <leotreasure>	i'm going to speak with the head lawyer in Sydney in a few weeks
Feb 12 06:49:57 <BitHub>	where can i donate? :)
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Feb 12 06:50:22 <mjr_>	if you just calculate the breakeven for each of the calls, you can find the "cheapest" one and then watch it rip lol
Feb 12 06:51:01 <leotreasure>	i haven't started accepting donations officially yet but i guess you could send them here 1LeobZhdhmvQUpcdgF7MExR1CobUygUi5P
Feb 12 06:51:04 <mjr_>	in my case, yesterday my breakeven for the $17 call was 25.30 i think...
Feb 12 06:51:21 <leotreasure>	thanks btw :)
Feb 12 06:51:43 <BitHub>	.5 btc coming up :) keep up the good work
Feb 12 06:52:50 <knotwork>	what does the $17 even mean if actual breakeven is 25.30 ?
Feb 12 06:52:55 <mjr_>	well
Feb 12 06:53:00 <BitHub>	sent :)
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Feb 12 06:53:07 <mjr_>	you are paying for the option to buy bitcoins at $17
Feb 12 06:53:18 <mjr_>	but if i tell you i will give you that option for $8...
Feb 12 06:53:21 <knotwork>	and you pay 25.30 minus 17 as fee?
Feb 12 06:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork if you sell puits short
Feb 12 06:53:28 <mircea_popescu>	you do make a lot when it goes up
Feb 12 06:53:32 <mjr_>	it doesn't make sense to use that option unless they are selling for $17+8
Feb 12 06:54:09 <mjr_>	no...you are paying $17 (i bought the right to buy a bitcoin for $17) and I paid $8 for that right
Feb 12 06:54:32 <knotwork>	so the $17 strike options price was $8.30 per coin for the option?
Feb 12 06:54:40 <mjr_>	around there
Feb 12 06:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	take O.BTCUSD.P350T. you can sell it now for 0.43102778
Feb 12 06:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	if btc goes to 36 it's worth 0
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Feb 12 06:54:52 <mircea_popescu>	and so you made 0.43 btc PER
Feb 12 06:54:54 <knotwork>	or I guess, paid $8 and had an additional fee for the exchange of $0.30
Feb 12 06:55:05 <mjr_>	nah, i was doing rough estimate
Feb 12 06:55:08 <mjr_>	i paid...
Feb 12 06:55:26 <mjr_>	0.33832578 bitcoins for that option
Feb 12 06:55:46 <mjr_>	which adds in the extra wrinkle of how do i calculate what i paid for the option
Feb 12 06:56:09 <mjr_>	do i calculate my average cost of bitcoins, the price at the time of purchase, or the price when i exercise....
Feb 12 06:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ well you have to decide if you keep books in btc or not
Feb 12 06:56:27 <mjr_>	yeah. it is mainly an accounting decision
Feb 12 06:56:27 <EskimoBob>	knotwork: the whole idea is to rid you from your coin. No matter how this asshole spins it, it's still there to rip you off.
Feb 12 06:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	first off
Feb 12 06:56:33 <mircea_popescu>	and yes it is.
Feb 12 06:56:44 <BitHub>	i do it at time of purchase mjr
Feb 12 06:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	that yields a consolidated sort of gain
Feb 12 06:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	(value of decision to buy btc + value of decision to buy option) together
Feb 12 06:58:01 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 12 06:58:15 <mjr_>	that makes sense
Feb 12 06:58:16 <BitHub>	i just write the amount of btc and the amount and the total amount i paid for it at the time.
Feb 12 06:58:35 <mjr_>	i have to translate back to USD unfortunately
Feb 12 06:58:47 <mjr_>	because that is how you show ridiculous gains against a failing dollar
Feb 12 06:58:57 <BitHub>	example 50 btc 1000 aud
Feb 12 06:59:12 <BitHub>	at the time or purchase
Feb 12 06:59:14 <BitHub>	of
Feb 12 06:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ the excruciatingly precise way to do it would be to keep separate accounts.
Feb 12 06:59:20 <mjr_>	k
Feb 12 06:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	then do vwap price when you buy, actual price you bought at
Feb 12 06:59:40 <mjr_>	yeah true
Feb 12 06:59:45 <mircea_popescu>	then when you do options value btc in then-current vwap and add difference to acct
Feb 12 06:59:45 <mircea_popescu>	etc
Feb 12 06:59:55 <mjr_>	ugh, i was an accounting major, but i don't do that now because it aint fun
Feb 12 07:00:17 <BitHub>	keep it in fiat figures
Feb 12 07:00:19 <BitHub>	easier
Feb 12 07:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	you end up with an account plan doing a. btc buying slippage gain/loss ; b. overtime btc gain/loss ; c. option entry/exit gain/loss
Feb 12 07:00:22 <knotwork>	how much were bitcoins price when people paid $8 for option to buy them for $17 ?
Feb 12 07:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	so 3 accounts
Feb 12 07:00:37 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 12 07:00:54 <mjr_>	i believe when i bought the option bitcoin was around $24/1btc
Feb 12 07:01:11 <mjr_>	but even so...this is a matter of precision...
Feb 12 07:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Feb 12 07:01:27 <mjr_>	i think it will hit 30 by the end of the month (last friday)
Feb 12 07:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	back when btc was about 14/each an option struck at 15 would have cost about .15 btc say, roughly, so like 2 dollars.
Feb 12 07:01:42 <mjr_>	so i am just quibbling over how much percent i will make lol
Feb 12 07:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	now it's worth 10 bucks each, +400%
Feb 12 07:02:01 <knotwork>	so at buying  coin for $17 at that moment woud only have cost you $7 (over the 17) instead of the 8 you paid for mere option?
Feb 12 07:02:13 <mjr_>	you can even do it as a constantly changing variable
Feb 12 07:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork yes.
Feb 12 07:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	options contain a premium obviously. being options.
Feb 12 07:02:56 <knotwork>	weird so why not just buy the damn coin instead of the option?
Feb 12 07:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	because if they go down you lose.
Feb 12 07:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	he paid the extra whatever , 50 cents, a dollar, to insure his 17 capital out of the 24 against the possibility of loss
Feb 12 07:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	if you buy 1 btc at 24, then you risk 24. if you buy 1 btc synthetically via an option at 8, you risk only the 8.
Feb 12 07:04:12 <mjr_>	like profit = current exchange price - (strike + cost of option at current exchange)
Feb 12 07:04:30 <knotwork>	ok, and seller gets $8 instead of 7 but faces loss if they go down instead of up
Feb 12 07:04:34 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Feb 12 07:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	so in this sense it can work as leverage, even as high as 10`000%
Feb 12 07:05:03 <mircea_popescu>	which is why people were lolling at people who lost their stuff in bitcoinica.
Feb 12 07:05:48 <knotwork>	but with options the guy you sell them to is going to exercise them at just the worst moment for the seller
Feb 12 07:06:26 <knotwork>	whereas owning the coins you dont care if they go down if you "know" its just a matter of time before they go back up, aks that the momentary down is just momentary
Feb 12 07:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Feb 12 07:06:37 <knotwork>	with options that momentary down is where buyer will nail you
Feb 12 07:06:50 <mircea_popescu>	it does use the 24 hour avg price tho
Feb 12 07:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	so it has to be really down not just spot down
Feb 12 07:07:05 <knotwork>	so buyer just needs to manipulate the oracle into reportying a momentary low and exercise
Feb 12 07:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	and in any event it's better than bitcoinica-style forced liquidation event.
Feb 12 07:07:27 <mjr_>	also
Feb 12 07:07:29 <knotwork>	oh ok average helps make oracle resistant to maniulating to some extent
Feb 12 07:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	kinda hard to manipulate the 24 hour average.
Feb 12 07:07:34 <mjr_>	they may not exercise when it's worst
Feb 12 07:07:37 <mjr_>	since they can't kinow that
Feb 12 07:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, they may think it will go even lower.
Feb 12 07:07:52 <mjr_>	if i could pick bottoms and tops, i would be a billionaire
Feb 12 07:07:55 <knotwork>	oh right
Feb 12 07:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	exactly. it's a market after all.
Feb 12 07:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	they can't go retroactively and say i buy here i sell there
Feb 12 07:08:16 <mjr_>	yeah, more than likely, they will wait and if it  turns around they will exercise there
Feb 12 07:08:25 <mjr_>	missing a little profit
Feb 12 07:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ and THEN it collapses
Feb 12 07:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 12 07:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	and they kick themselves
Feb 12 07:08:40 <mircea_popescu>	this channel log is full of such adventures
Feb 12 07:08:41 <mjr_>	lol true
Feb 12 07:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	not just optiopns, stocks too etc.
Feb 12 07:08:48 <mjr_>	look at apple
Feb 12 07:08:53 <mircea_popescu>	yah
Feb 12 07:08:55 <mircea_popescu>	market is market.
Feb 12 07:08:59 <mjr_>	that is a perfect example of not being able to find tops or bottoms
Feb 12 07:09:11 <mjr_>	some peple sold apple at $25 and thought they were genius's
Feb 12 07:09:22 <mjr_>	others bought at 699 thinking it couldn't go down
Feb 12 07:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 12 07:09:42 <mjr_>	the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent
Feb 12 07:10:12 <mircea_popescu>	that's not actually true. for instance all of asicminer is like 50-100k btc.
Feb 12 07:10:15 <mjr_>	anyways, with my call, which is my favorite single legged strategy, i will prob just let it auto exercise at the end of the month
Feb 12 07:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	it can't outsolventize me.
Feb 12 07:10:30 <mjr_>	that is true
Feb 12 07:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	however, this is the #1 risk i face. one day it will be the case, and ima try not to get fucked then.
Feb 12 07:10:36 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 12 07:10:45 <knotwork>	by selling the right kind(s) of options can you ensure you never actually lose what you had, worst loss you could have is just not making as much as you might have if if you hadnt sold those options?
Feb 12 07:10:56 <mjr_>	but what i said earlier is the reason why "martingaling" doesn't work over the long run
Feb 12 07:10:58 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork you can lock profits in.
Feb 12 07:11:09 <mjr_>	yes, or protect against big downsides
Feb 12 07:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	say you bought calls and they are now up. you can buy puts and pretty much lock it.
Feb 12 07:11:18 <mjr_>	yes true
Feb 12 07:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	or if you sold puts short, you can sell calls too
Feb 12 07:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	or buy them back
Feb 12 07:11:29 <mjr_>	strangle/straddle
Feb 12 07:11:29 <mircea_popescu>	it's really very complex/flexible
Feb 12 07:11:39 <mjr_>	yep, but options strategies are my favorite
Feb 12 07:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	the only thing is, it needs thinking
Feb 12 07:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	unlike forexy things where you just mash the buy/sell buttons
Feb 12 07:11:50 <mjr_>	it's just hard when pretty much i think "it's going up"
Feb 12 07:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	you need a strategy here
Feb 12 07:12:03 <mjr_>	well...aren't there options on currency?
Feb 12 07:12:09 <mircea_popescu>	surely.
Feb 12 07:12:13 <knotwork>	yeah nice thing about just holding one's coins indefinitely is it doesnt need much/any thought
Feb 12 07:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	most retail plays forex (and gets scammed)
Feb 12 07:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	most serious investors do options
Feb 12 07:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	(like buffett etc)
Feb 12 07:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork very true.
Feb 12 07:12:35 <mjr_>	yes, i would definitely sell calls on the US dollar
Feb 12 07:12:45 <knotwork>	they went down from $32 but lately its finally looking like they are recovering
Feb 12 07:12:47 <mjr_>	with a far out enough expiration date
Feb 12 07:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ selling calls on the usd or buying calls on the btc are very similar i think
Feb 12 07:13:00 <mjr_>	exactly
Feb 12 07:13:12 <mjr_>	you can describe my positoin as bearish us dollar, or bullish bitcoin
Feb 12 07:13:19 <knotwork>	I missed opportunities I could have in theory got by selling high and buying back in low but I could not be sure there would ever be a low to buy back in at
Feb 12 07:13:20 <mjr_>	it is more bullish bitcoin than anything
Feb 12 07:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	still some decoupling, but as btc mkt cap increases there will be less and less.
Feb 12 07:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork exactly.
Feb 12 07:13:40 <mjr_>	you can conceivably make money still just by market making and arbing different exchanges
Feb 12 07:13:52 <mjr_>	especially very early in the morning or late at night
Feb 12 07:14:07 <mjr_>	(though i realize it is global)
Feb 12 07:14:09 <pigeons>	early morning/late at night where?
Feb 12 07:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	new york. he does have sorta a point
Feb 12 07:14:20 <mjr_>	yes...mostly US and europe i would guess
Feb 12 07:14:32 <mjr_>	i mean...i was watching around 3am NYC
Feb 12 07:14:41 <mjr_>	you could still scoop up btc for under 25 on camp bx
Feb 12 07:14:50 <pigeons>	how many though
Feb 12 07:15:13 <mjr_>	eh, like 10 btc under 25
Feb 12 07:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	i think arbing the fiat exchanges is more work than it's worth.
Feb 12 07:15:18 <mjr_>	they are already taken
Feb 12 07:15:22 <mjr_>	i agree
Feb 12 07:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, take the havelock/mpex s.dice difference.
Feb 12 07:15:35 <mjr_>	not enough volatitliy and razor thin margins cuz of transferring money back and forth
Feb 12 07:15:40 <mircea_popescu>	there's like, what, 3-4 btc worth to be made arbing that ?
Feb 12 07:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt there's 100 bux to be made working campbx/stamp/mtgox/w/e
Feb 12 07:15:59 <pigeons>	yeah i see high prices at havelock, then i look at the order size, right
Feb 12 07:16:00 <mjr_>	depends
Feb 12 07:16:09 <mjr_>	if its a bot...
Feb 12 07:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons yest like 28 lots sold at 76
Feb 12 07:16:19 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/virtual-bitcoins-can-now-be-traded-for-dominos-pizza/
Feb 12 07:16:23 <mircea_popescu>	i think book is deceptive, as btc ppl are very impatient.
Feb 12 07:16:44 <pigeons>	at dominos? cause i used jjjrmy's bitpizza in 2011
Feb 12 07:18:40 <mjr_>	yeah, well, i mostly use the strategies i've said to try to get as long as possible, for as little money as possible
Feb 12 07:18:59 <knotwork>	yeah that is what I'd like to be able to do
Feb 12 07:19:01 <mjr_>	so if i can scoop up cheap coins on camp bx, or bitfloor, i would, simply cuz i plan on holding them
Feb 12 07:19:19 <mjr_>	only problem is you multiply CP risk
Feb 12 07:19:34 <knotwork>	kind of abstractly using my increased riches to buy more bitcoins, without actually spending my bitcoins to do so since they *are* my riches
Feb 12 07:19:34 <mjr_>	and you have way more accounting to do
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Feb 12 07:20:08 <Bugpowder>	still no assbot
Feb 12 07:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	sucks.
Feb 12 07:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what the trouble is
Feb 12 07:21:19 <knotwork>	shorting something else to buy bitcoins might be best maybe, such as borrow some other type of coin using bitcoins as colalteral, and sell what you borrow to buy more bitcoins to use as more collateral etc
Feb 12 07:21:47 <Bugpowder>	bubbletalk
Feb 12 07:22:07 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork that's very dangerous.
Feb 12 07:22:10 <knotwork>	that worked great with devcoins for a while but now devcoins are so crazy cheap its looking dangerous that they might go back up before you pay back the loan
Feb 12 07:22:28 <knotwork>	now instead its time to buy all those cheap devcoins to pay back the loans
Feb 12 07:22:52 <knotwork>	and maybe borrow some other coin that seems overpriced or at least not at a crazy low
Feb 12 07:23:10 <ThickerThanThiev>	that pizza article made it to BBC too
Feb 12 07:23:13 <ThickerThanThiev>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21427505
Feb 12 07:23:18 <knotwork>	borrowing is always dangerous but particularly so for things there arent many of
Feb 12 07:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Feb 12 07:23:35 <knotwork>	as you could end up trapped owing something that you cannot get hold of or not at decent price
Feb 12 07:24:25 <pigeons>	pizza was the first useful thing you could buy with bitoin
Feb 12 07:24:26 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 29
Feb 12 07:24:28 <gribble>	There are currently 9937.51 bitcoins offered at or under 29.0 USD, worth 266608.244608 USD in total.
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Feb 12 07:27:46 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 12 07:27:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.31000, Best ask: 25.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 25.31000, 24 hour volume: 44738.61190480, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.61882
Feb 12 07:27:58 <jurov>	lol this is insane... just few hours ago i cashed out a bit at 24.21
Feb 12 07:28:34 <pigeons>	nuts
Feb 12 07:29:07 <JWU42>	;;asks 30
Feb 12 07:29:08 <gribble>	There are currently 17410.07 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 488875.899895 USD in total.
Feb 12 07:29:11 *	jurov shrugs and confirms sepa withdrawal
Feb 12 07:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i sold 200 btc's worth specifically to rebuy once price tanks back to 20.
Feb 12 07:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	so far im losing on that idea.
Feb 12 07:30:16 <jurov>	i have my parents lined up for buying btcs if that happens
Feb 12 07:30:34 <knotwork>	cashing out at anything less than $100 is more a daytrader thing or a desperately need the cash thing really
Feb 12 07:30:36 <JWU42>	=)
Feb 12 07:30:53 <JWU42>	knotwork: huh?
Feb 12 07:30:57 <knotwork>	tho likely by time it hits $100 that'd have to be changed to "anything less than $150"
Feb 12 07:31:07 <jurov>	^exactly
Feb 12 07:31:18 <JWU42>	so - BTC gets to $95 in 5 years
Feb 12 07:31:29 <jurov>	or in 5 months
Feb 12 07:31:31 <Bugpowder>	dat bubble
Feb 12 07:31:31 <JWU42>	and then something goes batshit bad and BTC goes back to $.01
Feb 12 07:31:33 <knotwork>	JWU42 daytrader as in hoping it will dip sometime so you can buy back in cheaper
Feb 12 07:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork i was trying to play teh daytrader what can i tel lyou.
Feb 12 07:31:45 <JWU42>	you lose EVERYTHING
Feb 12 07:31:54 <JWU42>	on paper
Feb 12 07:31:56 <pigeons>	if it was .01 i could buy them all
Feb 12 07:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder ikr?
Feb 12 07:32:06 <Bugpowder>	its fun
Feb 12 07:32:12 <Bugpowder>	i love bubbles
Feb 12 07:32:18 <Bugpowder>	reminds me of DNDN
Feb 12 07:32:19 <JWU42>	well - the only reason it goes to $.01 is that the project is effectively dead and broken
Feb 12 07:32:26 <mircea_popescu>	all bitcoins in the world for 100k ? sure, i'll take em
Feb 12 07:32:41 <mircea_popescu>	JWU42 100k is inconsequential irl anyway
Feb 12 07:32:46 <JWU42>	and for some those odds might be worth it
Feb 12 07:33:01 <Bugpowder>	it will never go to .01
Feb 12 07:33:05 <JWU42>	mircea_popescu: for some people 100K is currently 5x their lifetime savings
Feb 12 07:33:09 <pigeons>	;;totalbc
Feb 12 07:33:10 <gribble>	10770225.0
Feb 12 07:33:13 <Bugpowder>	maybe 1 if SHTM
Feb 12 07:33:17 <Bugpowder>	SHTF
Feb 12 07:33:18 <knotwork>	next time it goes toward $2 it likely wont even get there
Feb 12 07:33:19 <JWU42>	and that is a growing % of people in the US
Feb 12 07:33:21 <jurov>	lol i'm looking up the usd/eur rate at bitstamp's bank... and usd isn't there
Feb 12 07:33:31 <jurov>	so it's here... usd not valid anymore
Feb 12 07:33:38 <pigeons>	heh
Feb 12 07:33:38 <JWU42>	no real equity appreciation in a dozen years
Feb 12 07:33:42 <mircea_popescu>	ya well JWU42 , some people have no business doing btc megaplays either.
Feb 12 07:33:50 <Bugpowder>	https://www.bitstamp.net/market/order_book/
Feb 12 07:33:56 <JWU42>	mega is the key word there
Feb 12 07:33:58 <JWU42>	;)
Feb 12 07:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	indeed
Feb 12 07:34:17 <JWU42>	as the saying goes - pigs get slaughtered
Feb 12 07:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	if 100k is 5x your life savinfgs you obviously have no place dicking around b uying internet funny moneys for 100k
Feb 12 07:34:31 <JWU42>	waiting to sell anything until $100 is, to me, piggish
Feb 12 07:34:41 <knotwork>	its looking likely now that lots of folks will think we are finally recovering to our $32 we were at back before all those hacks hit the fans
Feb 12 07:34:43 <JWU42>	true there MP
Feb 12 07:35:13 <knotwork>	so I would not be surprised to see it go to $32 shortly then think about whether to bubble or just gloat a while before continuing up
Feb 12 07:35:35 <JWU42>	I thought we would stop at 20
Feb 12 07:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	i think many people are psychologically invested in passing the bubble
Feb 12 07:35:53 <JWU42>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 12 07:36:00 <JWU42>	still favorable
Feb 12 07:36:06 <knotwork>	(by whether to bubble I mean whether to shoot on up more, not whether to "burst")
Feb 12 07:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	so 30-35 is more a reasonable next plateau i guess
Feb 12 07:36:31 <ThickerThanThiev>	I think there are more and more people putting a portion of the their weekly paycheck into BTC
Feb 12 07:36:40 <JWU42>	I am selling about 5% at these levels
Feb 12 07:36:49 <ThickerThanThiev>	propping it up higher and higher
Feb 12 07:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	BTC prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau. I do not feel there will be soon if ever a 50 or 60 point break from present levels, such as (bears) have predicted. I expect to see the BTC market a good deal higher within a few months.
Feb 12 07:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	there, i jinxed it.
Feb 12 07:37:02 <knotwork>	yes I think so, if it keeps shooting up as fast when it passes $32 I'll start to think its likely to burst back down to $25 to 32 range
Feb 12 07:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_01/seymour062001.html there's more famous quotes.
Feb 12 07:38:52 <knotwork>	seems likely at $32 people will worry that higher might be "just a bubble", and of course some folk will be already thinking it *is* a bubble, so likely should slow the climb around there
Feb 12 07:39:25 <ThickerThanThiev>	just the fact that we're noting $32 means it's obv people will get skittish at that point
Feb 12 07:39:30 <Bugpowder>	nah
Feb 12 07:39:44 <Bugpowder>	this move will violently reverse
Feb 12 07:39:50 <Bugpowder>	at some point
Feb 12 07:39:50 <knotwork>	yeah its a famous high imaged to have been a bubble
Feb 12 07:39:58 <Bugpowder>	retrace 25-50%
Feb 12 07:40:05 <Bugpowder>	bounce
Feb 12 07:40:10 <Bugpowder>	resettle
Feb 12 07:40:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder there's not really that much btc on the market.
Feb 12 07:40:22 <Bugpowder>	who knows how high
Feb 12 07:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	your modelling assumes 50-70% of btc moves.
Feb 12 07:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	the reality is closer to 5-7%. certainly under 1/4
Feb 12 07:40:36 <knotwork>	I dont think $32 was really a bubble at all but saying it was plus all the hacks forced it into being one, self fulfilling prophecy
Feb 12 07:40:59 <knotwork>	I thought $32 was just people realising the potential and pricing it in
Feb 12 07:41:10 <Bugpowder>	There will be a lot of BTC on the market when the price falls 20% and stays down for more than an hour.
Feb 12 07:41:12 <Bugpowder>	waterfalllll
Feb 12 07:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	this is why price moves so much : fiat side can increase 1000% in two weeks on account of very small basis (in fiat terms)
Feb 12 07:41:19 <pigeons>	jurov: https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/300947007957237760
Feb 12 07:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	btc side can only move very little to absorb that
Feb 12 07:41:27 <mircea_popescu>	so price compensates.
Feb 12 07:41:29 <knotwork>	ever since I have figured it is fundamentally worth more than $32 or at least $32
Feb 12 07:41:39 <Bugpowder>	to think otherwise is classic bubble delishion
Feb 12 07:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	and no, either side. people don't sell.
Feb 12 07:41:44 <Bugpowder>	delusion
Feb 12 07:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps.
Feb 12 07:41:52 <jurov>	pigeons i know, but i'm doing withdrawal not deposit
Feb 12 07:42:23 <jurov>	if i don't receive it in 2 days i'll let you know
Feb 12 07:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	ima write this up, brb
Feb 12 07:42:32 <jurov>	and cross another exchange out of my list
Feb 12 07:42:41 <knotwork>	if it falls 20% and stays down more than an hour people will be running to get more bucks to exhcanges to buy those cheap coins
Feb 12 07:43:25 <ThickerThanThiev>	i dont think people are as liquid as that
Feb 12 07:43:34 <ThickerThanThiev>	"running to get more bucks"
Feb 12 07:43:35 <jurov>	i'm considering to use this panic to sell bitstamp usd codes :D
Feb 12 07:43:41 <jurov>	if that happens
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Feb 12 07:46:28 <jurov>	or i'll go by car to slovenia to deposit first lol
Feb 12 07:47:05 <kakobreklaa>	hmm
Feb 12 07:47:18 <kakobreklaa>	want to buy bitstamp code?
Feb 12 07:47:49 <jurov>	not atm, just phantasizing
Feb 12 07:48:17 <jurov>	over my after-good-lunch coffee
Feb 12 07:49:33 <kakobreklaa>	maybe there is money to be made here
Feb 12 07:49:44 <kakobreklaa>	i have my deposits processed same day if im early enough
Feb 12 07:49:46 <jurov>	kakobreklaa, you have a clue why unicredit bank has no usd rate published?
Feb 12 07:49:55 <kakobreklaa>	no clue
Feb 12 07:50:00 <kakobreklaa>	i never checked it there
Feb 12 07:50:11 <jurov>	http://www.unicreditbank.si/tecajna_lista/?t=1&id_menu=&language=ENG
Feb 12 07:50:15 <kakobreklaa>	its not too far from what google will say regarding eur usd ratio
Feb 12 07:50:34 <kakobreklaa>	lol
Feb 12 07:50:35 <kakobreklaa>	silly
Feb 12 07:50:36 <jurov>	i know, just i tried to find it for like 15 seconds in vain
Feb 12 07:50:43 <knotwork>	wow it dipped below $25, buy buy buy! :)
Feb 12 07:51:01 <pigeons>	the bubble is over! it's going to .02
Feb 12 07:51:40 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 12 07:51:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.97000, Best ask: 25.07000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 25.07000, 24 hour volume: 47520.26271140, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.64565
Feb 12 07:52:18 <jurov>	perhaps market got aware that mp is cashing out
Feb 12 07:52:19 <jurov>	:D
Feb 12 07:52:28 <kakobreklaa>	mp is cashing out!?
Feb 12 07:52:35 <kakobreklaa>	is it april 1st?
Feb 12 07:52:51 *	Ukto cashes kakobreklaa out
Feb 12 07:52:57 <jurov>	[13:29] <mircea_popescu> jurov i sold 200 btc's worth specifically to rebuy once price tanks back to 20.
Feb 12 07:52:59 <jurov>	[13:29] <mircea_popescu> so far im losing on that idea.
Feb 12 07:53:19 <kakobreklaa>	impossibru!
Feb 12 07:53:22 <Ukto>	heh, its gonna hit 30
Feb 12 07:53:27 <Ukto>	promise
Feb 12 07:53:33 <Ukto>	too much money still flowing in
Feb 12 07:53:40 <jurov>	it's like bernanke saying he'll change 2k usd to euros. market would panic.
Feb 12 07:53:40 <knotwork>	finally all the MP-haters can strike back, just keep buying to prevent it ever going down to 20!
Feb 12 07:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Feb 12 07:54:14 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: HAHA YOU FUCKED UP FINALLY. j/k :P
Feb 12 07:54:15 <knotwork>	yeah nice psywar move MP
Feb 12 07:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	what can i say, i don't shit gold
Feb 12 07:54:53 <Ukto>	damn it, why not
Feb 12 07:55:10 <knotwork>	hahaha made MP miss out on $1000 by making hs remaining holdngs go up 20+ percent hahaha
Feb 12 07:55:11 <pigeons>	why would he waste his time thinking about such a paltry sum as 200 btc?
Feb 12 07:55:35 <Ukto>	is this even a serious conversation? lol
Feb 12 07:55:41 *	Ukto is going back to being ill now. :P
Feb 12 07:56:11 <pigeons>	ok time to get serious, we're making Ukto sick
Feb 12 07:56:53 <jurov>	i was not serious (just to stay clear)
Feb 12 07:57:24 <pigeons>	i'm usually about half-serious/half-joking as a hedge
Feb 12 07:58:04 <jurov>	humour hedging? what did the world came to
Feb 12 07:58:15 <Ukto>	pigeons: wanna trade options on humor?
Feb 12 07:58:25 <jurov>	what will be next? drama futures?
Feb 12 07:58:36 <Ukto>	dont we already have that?
Feb 12 07:58:40 <pigeons>	well i used to joke on margin, that didn't turn out well
Feb 12 07:58:54 <Ukto>	afk
Feb 12 07:58:59 <jurov>	Ukto, let's create me CoinBr.Drama-E and CoinBr.Drama-E on bf
Feb 12 07:59:10 <jurov>	*CoinBr.Drama-O
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Feb 12 08:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder here you go : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/
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Feb 12 08:21:22 <mircea_popescu>	dude don't tell me my 200 btc comment crashed it ?!
Feb 12 08:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	you ppl gotta stop listening to me srsly.
Feb 12 08:22:47 <wao>	:D
Feb 12 08:22:57 <wao>	mircea_popescu: url
Feb 12 08:23:43 <mircea_popescu>	wao hm ?
Feb 12 08:23:55 <wao>	for your 200 btc comment o_O
Feb 12 08:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	its in the log above neh ?
Feb 12 08:25:49 <DeadWeasel>	did you break IRC with your inflammatory comments?
Feb 12 08:27:53 <mircea_popescu>	i ruined everything!!1
Feb 12 08:27:54 <knotwork>	" Two billion dollars divided by 600`000 Bitcoins comes to three thousand dollars and chance per Bitcoin." --> s/chance/change/ ???
Feb 12 08:28:01 <mircea_popescu>	oty
Feb 12 08:29:40 <knotwork>	"Neutral and unengaded governments win" --> s/unengaded/unengaged/ ???
Feb 12 08:31:39 <knotwork>	"forget all about the Youkon gold rush sometime" --> s/Youcon/Yukon/ ??? Or is you con a deliberate pun?
Feb 12 08:32:08 <knotwork>	oops I meant s/Youkon/Yukon/
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Feb 12 08:34:10 <mircea_popescu>	hehe the youkon is a joke ya
Feb 12 08:36:28 <DeadWeasel>	where are these atrocious spelling and grammar mistakes coming from?
Feb 12 08:37:14 <DeadWeasel>	mircea_popescu: probably your site, you gotta start proofreading. :)
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Feb 12 08:38:45 <TomServo>	unengaded = unengaged?
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Feb 12 08:41:25 <TomServo>	oops, didn't see it had been mentioned - apologies.
Feb 12 08:45:28 <truffles>	so nice to talk about things like Africans with cellphones on the internet
Feb 12 08:45:40 <truffles>	so they can get more bitcoins..
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Feb 12 08:55:05 <DeadWeasel>	africans could actually use this, cos most of them are landless, addressesless.  Course the don't have any money either.
Feb 12 08:57:20 <truffles>	seems silly to me
Feb 12 08:58:22 <truffles>	if africa kept its natural resources for a yr or 2 i think less would be poor
Feb 12 09:00:16 <truffles>	getting the pluggin for .djvu so tilting!
Feb 12 09:00:46 <DeadWeasel>	ahahahahahahahha.   they kicked all the whites out and 5 years later they are starving.
Feb 12 09:00:57 <DeadWeasel>	they can't manage their resources
Feb 12 09:01:10 <Diablo-D3>	>yukon gold
Feb 12 09:01:16 <Diablo-D3>	mmm potatoes
Feb 12 09:01:24 <truffles>	every1 in africa is stupid huh
Feb 12 09:01:54 <Diablo-D3>	>every1
Feb 12 09:01:56 <Diablo-D3>	>stupid
Feb 12 09:02:00 <Diablo-D3>	truffles is an african
Feb 12 09:02:05 <DeadWeasel>	no way, my step brother is south african.  he has a great business.
Feb 12 09:02:15 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: but is he black?
Feb 12 09:02:22 <DeadWeasel>	sorry, brother in law, i'm a little retarded today myself.
Feb 12 09:02:25 <DeadWeasel>	nope.
Feb 12 09:02:35 <DeadWeasel>	but he's south african.
Feb 12 09:02:35 <Diablo-D3>	I can think of at least two south africans who made it big... but they're white
Feb 12 09:02:43 <truffles>	wonder what descent
Feb 12 09:03:10 <DeadWeasel>	i'll ask next time I see him.
Feb 12 09:04:10 <truffles>	i rly wonder how u can make such a statement "they can't manage their resources"
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Feb 12 09:04:32 <Diablo-D3>	they have no resources to manage
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Feb 12 09:05:02 <truffles>	orly
Feb 12 09:05:23 <truffles>	"Africa has a large quantity of natural resources including oil, diamonds, gold, iron, cobalt, uranium, copper, bauxite, silver, petroleum and cacao beans, but also woods and tropical fruits."
Feb 12 09:05:28 <Diablo-D3>	mining? oil? businesses owned by white men.
Feb 12 09:05:36 <Diablo-D3>	and the coffee industry is also ran by white men
Feb 12 09:05:53 <truffles>	if its on african soil how is this
Feb 12 09:05:56 <Diablo-D3>	I dont blame for most of africa hating people just because they're white
Feb 12 09:06:12 <Diablo-D3>	they see the color of your skin and know you're evil because thats all they've ever seen
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Feb 12 09:06:47 <truffles>	meh its an issue of colonial powers though
Feb 12 09:06:58 <truffles>	just banish them all and fixes lots of things
Feb 12 09:07:01 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel i crowdsource proofreading :D
Feb 12 09:07:03 <Diablo-D3>	colonial powers ARE white
Feb 12 09:07:24 <truffles>	so off with them
Feb 12 09:07:59 <Bugpowdurr>	Japan was a colonial power
Feb 12 09:09:14 <Diablo-D3>	japan was an imperial power
Feb 12 09:09:21 <Diablo-D3>	THEY had colonies
Feb 12 09:10:02 <truffles>	obv im being silly any leader that tries might just be offed
Feb 12 09:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	costa rica is a colonial power
Feb 12 09:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	it has colones
Feb 12 09:14:37 <truffles>	i wonder if most rich ppl have personal chefs
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Feb 12 09:17:58 <truffles>	i wanna put a bet on how long til evoorhees gets doj-ed but prob wont be around to collect
Feb 12 09:20:07 <error4733>	he is just a tech
Feb 12 09:20:18 <error4733>	good luck with that
Feb 12 09:20:44 <truffles>	lol at thinking they care
Feb 12 09:21:06 <BitHub>	anyone selling any asicminer shares?
Feb 12 09:21:15 <BitHub>	transfer them to my email adress?
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Feb 12 09:22:45 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine the pain and horror of unwinding all these asicminer assignment transactions will create the profession of btclawyer
Feb 12 09:23:11 <BitHub>	i know :/
Feb 12 09:23:16 <BitHub>	its a bit risky
Feb 12 09:23:33 <BitHub>	but i need to feed my fams
Feb 12 09:23:59 <mircea_popescu>	hey, nothing wrong with having that profession around
Feb 12 09:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	i was trying to push for it with the rota, but as long as it gets made somehow it's all good.
Feb 12 09:24:19 <BitHub>	i would actually pay for that service atm
Feb 12 09:24:32 <BitHub>	i made a donation to bitcoin-legal.org before
Feb 12 09:24:36 <BitHub>	could be good
Feb 12 09:24:57 <ThickerThanThiev>	bithub, what would you use a bitlawyer for now?
Feb 12 09:25:23 <BitHub>	just to help me in relation to australian small business law
Feb 12 09:26:08 <BitHub>	in terms of licences, staying legal, AML and AT compliyant etc
Feb 12 09:26:26 <BitHub>	company structure
Feb 12 09:27:11 <Bugpowdurr>	Well if anyone has a recommendation for a US based CPA that gets bitcoin and can issue recommendations, I am all ears.
Feb 12 09:28:09 <truffles>	keeping track of phantom money is hard work
Feb 12 09:28:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdurr possibly smickles once he gets his reg
Feb 12 09:28:26 <Bugpowdurr>	heh
Feb 12 09:28:45 <Bugpowdurr>	Probably going for someone more established
Feb 12 09:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be pretty cool if some big name cpa started taking btc
Feb 12 09:32:08 <mircea_popescu>	much more important than wikipedia/worpress/whatnot
Feb 12 09:33:04 <truffles>	wordpress brought me here so ...
Feb 12 09:33:38 <BitHub>	must be doable to outsource a cpa somewhere and pay them in btc
Feb 12 09:33:46 <BitHub>	same with a lawyer
Feb 12 09:33:46 <pigeons>	http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=la&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loremipsum.net%2F
Feb 12 09:34:00 <BitHub>	these are probably things the bitcoin foundation should be working on
Feb 12 09:34:21 <DeadWeasel>	I just got offered a permenent position at my contract job.
Feb 12 09:34:25 <DeadWeasel>	wooooo forme.
Feb 12 09:34:37 <truffles>	verry nice
Feb 12 09:34:37 <DeadWeasel>	and I spent most of my time talking on here and looking at bitcointalk.
Feb 12 09:34:42 <truffles>	more bitcoin money
Feb 12 09:34:45 <pigeons>	DeadWeasel: its a trap
Feb 12 09:34:53 <DeadWeasel>	i know it is pigeons
Feb 12 09:35:06 <DeadWeasel>	but this is a right to work state and I can leave anytime.
Feb 12 09:35:14 <truffles>	how can u irc while at work wtf
Feb 12 09:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	interesting what right to work ends up meaning
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Feb 12 09:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/acc/3604579148.html loller
Feb 12 09:40:28 <ThickerThanThiev>	not the worst idea...
Feb 12 09:40:45 <ThickerThanThiev>	(for the scammer)
Feb 12 09:42:30 <mircea_popescu>	"I actually recommended a disabled guy with a limited government social income to use some of his last savings to buy 3 units from this guy."
Feb 12 09:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	the stuff btcrtalk people do ...
Feb 12 09:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's unconscionable. the badmouth mpex on the grounds of it being too good for them and saying so,
Feb 12 09:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	they push disabled people into sending their last savings to scammers.
Feb 12 09:43:42 <mircea_popescu>	it's a wonder that thing doesn't explode already.
Feb 12 09:44:15 <DeadWeasel>	i use an ssh tunnel into my home machine through PUtty, and use IRSSI, it looks like a data sync.
Feb 12 09:44:32 <DeadWeasel>	I have several command windows open and this one just blends in
Feb 12 09:44:57 <DeadWeasel>	plus I use screen and can switch this one to another command window doing something legit
Feb 12 09:46:24 <iz>	ctrl-a, ctrl-a, the boss is coming
Feb 12 09:49:56 <truffles>	guess thats why they want software to track what employees are doing
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Feb 12 09:52:57 <EskimoBob>	bitstamp.net Ask side is melting like snow
Feb 12 09:57:26 <DeadWeasel>	they are welcome to.
Feb 12 09:57:53 <DeadWeasel>	I have delays where I"m waiting for builds or loaders, so I do as I please.
Feb 12 09:59:54 <jcpham>	where is the new drama
Feb 12 10:00:30 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: YOU are the new drama :)
Feb 12 10:05:54 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap jcpham
Feb 12 10:05:55 *	gribble slaps jcpham with a urbane cast
Feb 12 10:05:58 <DeadWeasel>	there it is.
Feb 12 10:12:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 12 10:12:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.32002, Best ask: 25.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 25.32001, 24 hour volume: 51237.14840373, 24 hour low: 23.67740, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.74607
Feb 12 10:13:56 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24hprc
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Feb 12 10:13:57 <gribble>	24.71
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Feb 12 10:17:08 <DeaDTerra>	WTB XRP, PM me an offer!
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Feb 12 10:22:19 <Diablo-D3>	Im going to see how much it costs to start an LLC in Maine
Feb 12 10:22:24 <Diablo-D3>	its probably more than I have, though
Feb 12 10:22:36 <BitHub>	400?
Feb 12 10:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	should be like a hundred or w/e
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Feb 12 10:37:38 <Chaang-Noi>	xrp?
Feb 12 10:38:07 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 why?
Feb 12 10:44:13 <Diablo-D3>	why what?
Feb 12 10:47:08 <coingenuity>	Diablo-D3: $85
Feb 12 10:47:15 <coingenuity>	also, why maine of all places
Feb 12 10:47:25 <Diablo-D3>	because maine needs the money the most of all places
Feb 12 10:47:47 <Diablo-D3>	its also better to register in the state that you have your physical assets in
Feb 12 10:47:53 <Diablo-D3>	makes it easier to make the state go your way
Feb 12 10:48:23 <pigeons>	prolly vice versa as well
Feb 12 10:48:49 <Diablo-D3>	maine also has very cheap very cold land
Feb 12 10:50:15 <Chaang-Noi>	why do you need a llc d3?
Feb 12 10:50:34 <pigeons>	to limit his liability
Feb 12 10:50:42 <Chaang-Noi>	glbse should have made a llc, but many other btc operations, but you dont just make one cuz...
Feb 12 10:50:58 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: because thats the norm for technology startups
Feb 12 10:51:03 <Chaang-Noi>	liabibility to what is what im trying to ask pigeons
Feb 12 10:51:14 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 do you have a tech start up?
Feb 12 10:51:54 <Diablo-D3>	you know I do
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Feb 12 10:52:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought your company was dead?
Feb 12 10:53:16 <Chaang-Noi>	iv not been around
Feb 12 10:53:21 <Chaang-Noi>	is it back alive?
Feb 12 10:55:22 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: it never died
Feb 12 10:55:28 <Diablo-D3>	Im just cleaning up the mess nefario caused
Feb 12 10:55:36 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Feb 12 10:55:51 <Diablo-D3>	its taking longer than I wished, but the sooner all of this gets going the better
Feb 12 10:56:10 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Feb 12 10:56:16 <Chaang-Noi>	best of luck
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Feb 12 11:02:33 <EskimoBob>	setting up a LLC will take about 30 min or so, then you can walk to the bank and open your accounts etc
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Feb 12 11:07:33 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Feb 12 11:07:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.41225, Best ask: 25.45500, Bid-ask spread: 0.04275, Last trade: 25.41225, 24 hour volume: 51819.99065886, 24 hour low: 23.67740, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77514
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Feb 12 11:36:34 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 12 11:36:34 <gribble>	1 BTC = 25.31971 U.S. dollars = 18.8418738 Euros
Feb 12 11:36:59 <EskimoBob>	lol, somone just dumped 50K+ USD
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Feb 12 11:38:35 <Bugpowdurr>	takes a lot of $$$ to move the market now
Feb 12 11:38:40 <Bugpowdurr>	not a lot of BTC though
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Feb 12 11:40:56 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowdurr: take a look at bitstamp. Bid Ask "mountains" have switched places
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Feb 12 11:51:42 <iz>	so.. i figure ppl in here understand foreign currencies pretty well also, so i'll ask here..   why is the yen moving now?
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Feb 12 11:57:43 <truffles>	i understand nothing
Feb 12 12:00:07 <DeadWeasel>	you know a lot about africans
Feb 12 12:02:02 <Bugpowdurr>	iz, Nuke Test
Feb 12 12:02:16 <truffles>	colonial powers yes
Feb 12 12:02:33 <Bugpowdurr>	maybe
Feb 12 12:02:59 <truffles>	i know that btc is playmonies too
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Feb 12 12:04:13 <asa1024>	abe told BOJ to print yen to boost their stock market I had read.
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Feb 12 12:04:41 <DeadWeasel>	bugpowder, you should start a tea company.  BudPowder tea.  with different bugpowder flavors
Feb 12 12:04:41 <asa1024>	check zero hedge for moar
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Feb 12 12:05:44 <Bugpowdurr>	byebye 25.60
Feb 12 12:05:55 <iz>	it was happening before the nuke test
Feb 12 12:06:47 <Bugpowdurr>	where is the assbot
Feb 12 12:07:02 <truffles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzH618DBMg pretty cool
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Feb 12 12:07:26 <Bugpowdurr>	;;ticker
Feb 12 12:07:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.60888, Best ask: 25.64999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04111, Last trade: 25.65000, 24 hour volume: 55047.39682831, 24 hour low: 23.84590, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.85482
Feb 12 12:07:29 <Bugpowdurr>	YAH!
Feb 12 12:07:31 <truffles>	once every 12 years and is billed as the biggest gathering of humanity on Earth
Feb 12 12:07:40 <Bugpowdurr>	assbot is back!
Feb 12 12:07:47 <Bugpowdurr>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 12 12:07:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062608 / 0.00064414 / 0.00066029 (2741845 shares, 1,766.15 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00066649 / 0.0007 (21474701 shares, 14,312.79 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066292 / 0.0007 (75430667 shares, 50,004.63 BTC)
Feb 12 12:07:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.0006556 = 4.2286 BTC [-]
Feb 12 12:10:37 <Lucidize>	Is there any chance of Obsi making some kind of magical payback? Any news on him?
Feb 12 12:11:49 <asa1024>	The pope lutheran?
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Feb 12 12:14:46 <truffles>	buddhist and hindu's thats a cult i could join
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Feb 12 12:16:01 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 12 12:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00598091 / 0.00608437 / 0.00620694 (7895 shares, 48.04 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00608305 / 0.00689996 (3348531 shares, 20,369.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00557377 / 0.0075 (8343729 shares, 46,506.07 BTC)
Feb 12 12:16:33 <EskimoBob>	truffles: buddism is not a religion
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Feb 12 12:17:22 <truffles>	since when
Feb 12 12:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.0006556 = 3.1141 BTC [-]
Feb 12 12:17:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14024 @ 0.00065566 = 9.195 BTC [+]
Feb 12 12:18:59 <truffles>	"Buddhism is a religion indigenous to the Indian subcontinent that encompasses a variety of traditions, beliefs and practices largely based on teachings attributed to Siddhartha Gautama, who is commonly known as the Buddha (meaning "the awakened one" in Sanskrit and Pāli)."
Feb 12 12:19:21 <EskimoBob>	lol
Feb 12 12:19:33 <EskimoBob>	go read more
Feb 12 12:20:05 <EskimoBob>	there is no all powerful blaa blaa blaa god in buddism
Feb 12 12:20:31 <EskimoBob>	buddism is a way of life, dude ;)
Feb 12 12:20:33 <truffles>	thats not a necessary condition to be a religion akaik
Feb 12 12:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5530 @ 0.00065343 = 3.6135 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 12:22:20 <truffles>	as far as i know*
Feb 12 12:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9376 @ 0.00065343 = 6.1266 BTC [-]
Feb 12 12:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4026 @ 0.00065566 = 2.6397 BTC [+]
Feb 12 12:22:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7040 @ 0.00066029 = 4.6484 BTC [+]
Feb 12 12:22:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3708 @ 0.0006604 = 2.4488 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 12:26:24 <Bugpowdurr>	yeah
Feb 12 12:26:29 <Bugpowdurr>	S.MPOE up to .00066
Feb 12 12:34:00 <EskimoBob>	This looks like  2011 jun/july. 5 USD to go :)
Feb 12 12:37:40 <Bugpowdurr>	lets hope so
Feb 12 12:37:56 <imsaguy>	lets hope it remains stable
Feb 12 12:38:07 <imsaguy>	drastic spikes will all but certainly lead to drastic drops
Feb 12 12:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7989 @ 0.00064622 = 5.1627 BTC [-]
Feb 12 12:39:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00064551 = 8.5207 BTC [-]
Feb 12 12:39:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20897 @ 0.00065178 = 13.6202 BTC [+]
Feb 12 12:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4357 @ 0.00063748 = 2.7775 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 12:43:08 <Bugpowdurr>	yeah
Feb 12 12:43:13 <Bugpowdurr>	volatility is great!
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Feb 12 12:48:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065069 = 9.6302 BTC [+]
Feb 12 12:51:28 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowdurr: volatility = useless as a method of payment in real life
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Feb 12 12:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00620694 = 10.5518 BTC [+]
Feb 12 12:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00624361 = 6.2436 BTC [+]
Feb 12 12:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00624362 = 3.1218 BTC [+]
Feb 12 12:59:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0063 = 63 BTC [+]
Feb 12 12:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00635293 = 3.1765 BTC [+]
Feb 12 12:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0063999 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Feb 12 13:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.0063999 = 25.5996 BTC [+]
Feb 12 13:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.0064 = 24.32 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 13:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065037 = 2.8102 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:00:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5879 @ 0.00065046 = 3.8241 BTC [+]
Feb 12 13:02:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00194985 = 0.9749 BTC [+]
Feb 12 13:02:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00194986 = 0.9749 BTC [+]
Feb 12 13:02:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2300 @ 0.00195 = 4.485 BTC [+]
Feb 12 13:03:01 <jurov>	EskimoBob, then why people were again and again sticking to use hyperinflating currencies to do payments irl?
Feb 12 13:03:13 <Bugpowdurr>	for fuch sake
Feb 12 13:03:19 <Bugpowdurr>	S.BBET for .00195
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Feb 12 13:03:23 <Bugpowdurr>	are people insane?
Feb 12 13:03:41 <truffles>	when r they not
Feb 12 13:03:50 <jurov>	bitcoin is nowhere near such volatility
Feb 12 13:04:28 <Bugpowdurr>	;;calc https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=2/3000000/.00195&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Feb 12 13:04:28 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Feb 12 13:04:31 <mod6>	Bugpowdurr: people said the same thing when S.MPOE hit .00015
Feb 12 13:04:49 <Bugpowdurr>	;;calc 2/3000000/.00195
Feb 12 13:04:49 <gribble>	0.00034188034188
Feb 12 13:04:58 <Bugpowdurr>	0.03% dividend
Feb 12 13:05:04 <Bugpowdurr>	noice
Feb 12 13:05:12 <mod6>	lol, its been like 1 month man.
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Feb 12 13:05:25 <Bugpowdurr>	I guess I should have not sold :-P
Feb 12 13:05:38 <mod6>	look at it this way, it wasn't a loss, and they covered the additional expenses, and STILL paid a ~2 BTC dividend
Feb 12 13:05:51 <mod6>	in less then 1 month
Feb 12 13:06:06 <jurov>	ppl expect it to have similar revenue to sdice soon
Feb 12 13:06:13 <Bugpowdurr>	ppl are idiots
Feb 12 13:06:21 <Bugpowdurr>	there is zero chance of that happening
Feb 12 13:06:28 <Bugpowdurr>	unless S.DICE shuts down
Feb 12 13:06:32 <mod6>	IPO was on Jan 11
Feb 12 13:06:36 <jurov>	why not?
Feb 12 13:06:45 <ThickerThanThiev>	zero chance is a bit extreme
Feb 12 13:06:50 <Bugpowdurr>	well
Feb 12 13:06:52 <ThickerThanThiev>	it is a betting site after all
Feb 12 13:06:53 <mod6>	S.DICE IPO was on Aug. 24
Feb 12 13:06:59 <Bugpowdurr>	I also think S.DICE is overvalued ATM too
Feb 12 13:07:13 <Bugpowdurr>	probably looking at 4000 BTC / mo
Feb 12 13:07:16 <Bugpowdurr>	from here
Feb 12 13:07:21 <Bugpowdurr>	but
Feb 12 13:07:30 <Bugpowdurr>	hey, growth could occur.
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Feb 12 13:07:45 <jurov>	even with 4k/month sdice divs would be attractive
Feb 12 13:08:17 <Bugpowdurr>	;;calc 4000/100000000/.0064
Feb 12 13:08:18 <gribble>	0.00625
Feb 12 13:08:40 <Bugpowdurr>	0.6%  on something that could get DoJ'd?
Feb 12 13:08:51 <jurov>	;;calc 0.00625*12
Feb 12 13:08:51 <gribble>	0.075
Feb 12 13:09:20 <jurov>	7.5% yearly... and how exactly it will get DoJ'd?
Feb 12 13:09:43 <ThickerThanThiev>	^
Feb 12 13:09:59 <Bugpowdurr>	Erik gets charged.
Feb 12 13:10:00 <jurov>	you mean domain seizure? like it worket in TPB's case?
Feb 12 13:10:11 <Bugpowdurr>	spooks the market
Feb 12 13:10:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064847 = 2.802 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:10:15 <jurov>	last i checked tpb is alive and kicking
Feb 12 13:10:16 <Bugpowdurr>	panic sell
Feb 12 13:10:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6879 @ 0.00064844 = 4.4606 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:10:25 <Bugpowdurr>	down to .001
Feb 12 13:10:36 <Bugpowdurr>	that's how I imagine it might go.
Feb 12 13:10:38 <jurov>	Bugpowdurr then you'll stop bitching about the price i hope
Feb 12 13:10:43 <Bugpowdurr>	lol
Feb 12 13:10:43 <ThickerThanThiev>	hehe
Feb 12 13:10:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.006 = 1.44 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:11:05 <Bugpowdurr>	Can you tell I sold all my S.BBET and S.DICE :)
Feb 12 13:14:11 <jcpham>	gigavps: http://i.imgur.com/iltirS0.png fan finally died
Feb 12 13:14:13 <maximian>	I think any DOJ scenario is a ways off
Feb 12 13:14:28 <maximian>	They take their time investigating
Feb 12 13:14:43 <maximian>	however, Erik really should sell S.DICE well beforehand
Feb 12 13:15:06 <Bugpowdurr>	I agree its a ways off
Feb 12 13:15:09 <maximian>	sell it at 0.008 to some gaming concern in Gibraltar or Macau
Feb 12 13:15:17 <Bugpowdurr>	yeah
Feb 12 13:15:55 <ThickerThanThiev>	.008 seems low
Feb 12 13:15:57 <ThickerThanThiev>	.2
Feb 12 13:16:06 <Bugpowdurr>	;;calc .008*87000000*25
Feb 12 13:16:06 <gribble>	17400000
Feb 12 13:16:24 <ThickerThanThiev>	20mil
Feb 12 13:16:30 <Bugpowdurr>	yeah
Feb 12 13:16:30 <ThickerThanThiev>	(usd)
Feb 12 13:16:32 <Bugpowdurr>	uhhh
Feb 12 13:16:39 <Bugpowdurr>	I'd take that deal
Feb 12 13:16:40 <mircea_popescu>	<Lucidize> Is there any chance of Obsi making some kind of magical payback? Any news on him? << nope.
Feb 12 13:16:58 <maximian>	I think 17.4M would be a fair price
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Feb 12 13:17:03 <maximian>	(USD)
Feb 12 13:17:20 <jurov>	fuck, why is my phone so hot and slowly charging? oh, left mtgoxlive open :/
Feb 12 13:17:38 <maximian>	Great way for a big gaming co to get a quick presence in bitcoinland
Feb 12 13:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	maximian the thing is, once one of them figuresd it out, all do
Feb 12 13:18:05 <mircea_popescu>	so the only way is either it be ignored or else bidwar.
Feb 12 13:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6021 @ 0.00064844 = 3.9043 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	if there's a bidwar anything under 100mn is a joke.
Feb 12 13:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5373 @ 0.00063749 = 3.4252 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:18:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28093 @ 0.00063748 = 17.9087 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:18:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4103 @ 0.00063683 = 2.6129 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24610 @ 0.00063606 = 15.6534 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:18:26 <maximian>	possibly
Feb 12 13:18:56 <maximian>	I wonder if evoorhees has put any thought into it
Feb 12 13:19:33 *	maximian summons evoorhees
Feb 12 13:21:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006503 = 2.8099 BTC [+]
Feb 12 13:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16718 @ 0.00065046 = 10.8744 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 13:32:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065034 = 2.8101 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:32:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1407 @ 0.00065046 = 0.9152 BTC [+]
Feb 12 13:32:51 <truffles>	pokerstars is in euro, dollars , canadian bucks too i think, maybe if they put in bitcoin...
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Feb 12 13:36:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.0006473 = 2.5568 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:36:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064009 = 2.7658 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11664 @ 0.00064008 = 7.4659 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13301 @ 0.00063606 = 8.4602 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 13:40:01 <truffles>	and they practically dominate the market buying their biggest competitor sigh
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Feb 12 13:42:36 <gigavps>	jcpham :(
Feb 12 13:42:57 <gigavps>	time for warranty replacement
Feb 12 13:43:41 <maximian>	So far this month, S.DICE has earned 6644 BTC as far as I can tell by dooglus' reports, which would imply ~16K profit for the month… does that seem right?
Feb 12 13:44:16 <mircea_popescu>	why would it imply 16k ?
Feb 12 13:44:25 <maximian>	just a simple projection
Feb 12 13:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	a
Feb 12 13:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	too spikey tho. it can go +x thousand in one day
Feb 12 13:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	or wallow for however long
Feb 12 13:45:14 <maximian>	yeah
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Feb 12 13:45:33 <maximian>	most of last month's revenue came really late in the month
Feb 12 13:46:00 <Pucilowski>	is there a transaction fee to trading on mpex?
Feb 12 13:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	ya but that was ny
Feb 12 13:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006416 = 2.7724 BTC [+]
Feb 12 13:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064154 = 5.3248 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4139 @ 0.00063606 = 2.6327 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	o no, wait, im thinking of the other month
Feb 12 13:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 407 @ 0.00063526 = 0.2586 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:46:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10933 @ 0.0006352 = 6.9446 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	Pucilowski 0.2% seller side.
Feb 12 13:46:29 <Pucilowski>	i see, thanks
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Feb 12 13:50:03 <Bugpowdurr>	maximian, it implies 9k for the month
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Feb 12 13:55:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063723 = 2.7535 BTC [+]
Feb 12 13:55:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11936 @ 0.00063693 = 7.6024 BTC [-]
Feb 12 13:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	how did yo ufigure 9k ?
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Feb 12 13:58:53 <ThickerThanThiev>	more like 16k
Feb 12 13:59:38 <ThickerThanThiev>	but like you said, it could stay flat from here
Feb 12 13:59:44 <jurov>	nope. it's 120k
Feb 12 13:59:49 <ThickerThanThiev>	?
Feb 12 13:59:54 <ThickerThanThiev>	sdice profit?
Feb 12 13:59:54 <jurov>	just joking
Feb 12 13:59:59 <ThickerThanThiev>	ah
Feb 12 13:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3861 @ 0.00063693 = 2.4592 BTC [-]
Feb 12 14:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8889 @ 0.0006352 = 5.6463 BTC [-]
Feb 12 14:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0061 = 6.1 BTC [+]
Feb 12 14:00:44 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 12 14:00:44 <gribble>	1 BTC = 25.57047 U.S. dollars = 19.1123926 Euros
Feb 12 14:02:07 <Bugpowdurr>	It will stay flat from here
Feb 12 14:02:51 <jurov>	did you actually bet? or just speaking in vain?
Feb 12 14:03:08 <jurov>	http://bitbet.us/bet/221/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-20-24-and/
Feb 12 14:03:28 <Bugpowdurr>	I predict volume of ~2000 BTC / day for the rest of the month
Feb 12 14:03:47 <Bugpowdurr>	umm
Feb 12 14:03:49 <Bugpowdurr>	I mean
Feb 12 14:04:11 <Bugpowdurr>	100-150BTC revenue a day for the rest of the month
Feb 12 14:04:20 <Bugpowdurr>	however, another spike of up to 3000BTC is possible.
Feb 12 14:04:26 <kakobreklaa>	;;ticker
Feb 12 14:04:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.57047, Best ask: 25.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02953, Last trade: 25.60000, 24 hour volume: 56715.11409378, 24 hour low: 24.00600, 24 hour high: 25.80000, 24 hour vwap: 24.96823
Feb 12 14:04:30 <Bugpowdurr>	beyond that, I think is unlikely.
Feb 12 14:04:39 <Bugpowdurr>	Due to the BTC remaining in the whale addresses.
Feb 12 14:05:02 <Bugpowdurr>	If those addresses get more coins, of course I will reevaluate my prediction and my S.DICE positioning.
Feb 12 14:05:06 <jurov>	i predict sunshine, snow or rain. anything beyond that is unlikely :D
Feb 12 14:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 670 @ 0.0061 = 4.087 BTC [+]
Feb 12 14:05:24 <Bugpowdurr>	but most likely outcome is 9k.
Feb 12 14:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	jesus the scams on bitcointalk never end
Feb 12 14:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143552.0
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Feb 12 14:06:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8620 @ 0.00063414 = 5.4663 BTC [-]
Feb 12 14:06:08 <mircea_popescu>	used to be that picostocks thing had the cake of most brazen bullshit, but check out that shit.
Feb 12 14:11:15 <EskimoBob>	lol, look who's whining
Feb 12 14:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00612297 = 8.5722 BTC [+]
Feb 12 14:18:03 <jurov>	lmao btcjam thinks about "limiting number of active loans per user".. as if that would help anything
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Feb 12 14:20:27 <jurov>	and https://strikesapphire.com/ tells me "proxy detected - to ensure we don't accept users from jurisdictions where online gambling isn't allowed"
Feb 12 14:21:02 <jurov>	what a bs, whatever i have here on port 80 is fine with freenode proxy checker, but not for them
Feb 12 14:22:34 <iz>	lol
Feb 12 14:22:47 <iz>	freenode isn't taking your money for gambling
Feb 12 14:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.006399 = 6.399 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 14:27:23 <jurov>	but they do check rigorously for open proxies
Feb 12 14:28:17 <iz>	yeah, but that's for anti-spamming, not to cover their asses legally
Feb 12 14:28:24 <maximian>	bugpowder: I see. well, hopefully the whale comes back. He spoiled us for a while there!
Feb 12 14:28:46 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 12 14:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00598091 / 0.00625286 / 0.0064 (34005 shares, 212.63 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00608436 / 0.00677999 (3373219 shares, 20,523.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00557722 / 0.0075 (8359458 shares, 46,622.54 BTC)
Feb 12 14:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 557722 * .13 / 12
Feb 12 14:29:10 <gribble>	6041.98833333
Feb 12 14:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	actually, as long as sdice makes 6k btc a month it covers inflation.
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Feb 12 14:32:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.40120001 = 401.2 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 14:35:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5367 @ 0.00065046 = 3.491 BTC [+]
Feb 12 14:35:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065614 = 2.8352 BTC [+]
Feb 12 14:35:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16159 @ 0.00065615 = 10.6027 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 14:39:41 <SpNg>	are S.DICE financials all denominated in BTC?
Feb 12 14:40:03 <jurov>	iz, what's the difference, really? either i do have open proxy here or not
Feb 12 14:40:45 <jurov>	SpNg: yes . and they won't touch fiat at all
Feb 12 14:41:08 <maximian>	SpNg: yes, and here's last month's P&L statement: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dHB2dVdiaEltUHAtTWlBcFhXQVBYeGc#gid=0
Feb 12 14:41:20 <SpNg>	jurov: ok, good to know.
Feb 12 14:41:28 <Bugpowdurr>	bid wall at 25.70!
Feb 12 14:41:36 <SpNg>	maximian: I found that yesterday. S.DICE is doing pretty well ;-)
Feb 12 14:41:51 <maximian>	yep, it's a great business
Feb 12 14:41:53 <Bugpowdurr>	blarg... ask wall at 25.80
Feb 12 14:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.40063855 = 400.6386 BTC [-]
Feb 12 14:42:23 <SpNg>	maximian: I'm surprised it's doing that amount of business too. The concept is fairly straight forward. Growth has been amazing on it too
Feb 12 14:42:44 <ThickerThanThiev>	another boring revenue day for sdice
Feb 12 14:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	i see the puts are moving
Feb 12 14:43:06 <ThickerThanThiev>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1522277#msg1522277
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Feb 12 14:43:57 <mircea_popescu>	interesting graph. blue a little lower black a little higher ?
Feb 12 14:44:00 <maximian>	revenue goes up in bursts
Feb 12 14:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	that's new isn't it ? usually 4 and under drives the profits.
Feb 12 14:49:41 <Bugpowdurr>	usually 4 and over drives profits
Feb 12 14:50:14 <Bugpowdurr>	but there was 1 guy recently that was just hammering 1 and 2 BTC bets on many different levels
Feb 12 14:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
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Feb 12 14:56:05 <Bugpowdurr>	I wonder if its the same guy shorting the 350s that got burned last time...
Feb 12 14:56:32 <Bugpowdurr>	Seems premature to short the puts, IMHO
Feb 12 14:56:50 <Bugpowdurr>	h
Feb 12 14:56:56 <Bugpowdurr>	hurrr.   actually ok
Feb 12 14:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.40063855 = 400.6386 BTC [-]
Feb 12 14:57:03 <Bugpowdurr>	premature to BUY puts :-P
Feb 12 14:57:05 <Bugpowdurr>	how yah
Feb 12 14:57:08 <Bugpowdurr>	its him
Feb 12 14:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if with his luck we should be scared.
Feb 12 14:57:21 <Bugpowdurr>	lol
Feb 12 14:58:02 <Bugpowdurr>	how to lose 4,500BTC in 24 hours or less
Feb 12 14:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	what's that, the 3rd k ?
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Feb 12 14:58:08 <Bugpowdurr>	ya
Feb 12 14:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how long he goes at it this time
Feb 12 14:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	like, pound bot continuously till opex ?
Feb 12 14:59:21 <alphaguru>	sup
Feb 12 15:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	moar like soup
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Feb 12 15:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.40161617 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065247 = 2.8193 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:00:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00065264 = 7.2443 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:00:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00065342 = 8.8865 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.00065615 = 1.3641 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5680 @ 0.00063414 = 3.6019 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063397 = 2.7394 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:03:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5099 @ 0.00063396 = 3.2326 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:03:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 15:03:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.39895687 = 398.9569 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:04:28 <mircea_popescu>	well on the positive side i think mpex monthly volume is at a new record
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Feb 12 15:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0060123 = 6.0123 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 15:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3401 @ 0.00063396 = 2.1561 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063282 = 2.7344 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19711 @ 0.00063281 = 12.4733 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 730 @ 0.0061 = 4.453 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:13:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.39895687 = 398.9569 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:18:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064192 = 2.7737 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:18:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.00064225 = 2.2986 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 15:21:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0062 = 62 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063407 = 2.7398 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7379 @ 0.00063437 = 4.681 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:33:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3997 @ 0.00063437 = 2.5356 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 15:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4037 @ 0.00063281 = 2.5547 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063187 = 2.7303 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063186 = 3.9175 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12542 @ 0.00063131 = 7.9179 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 15:42:06 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 12 15:42:07 <gribble>	1 BTC = 25.64900 U.S. dollars = 19.171089 Euros
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Feb 12 15:56:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1324 @ 0.00063437 = 0.8399 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064219 = 2.7749 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7323 @ 0.0006422 = 4.7028 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:57:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064202 = 2.7742 BTC [-]
Feb 12 15:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064205 = 2.7743 BTC [+]
Feb 12 15:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5058 @ 0.00064225 = 3.2485 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 16:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11681 @ 0.00064225 = 7.5021 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 16:08:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0224 = 0.224 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:08:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0223 = 0.223 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:08:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0222 = 0.222 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:08:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0221 = 0.221 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:08:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.022 = 1.1 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:08:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 15 @ 0.0216 = 0.324 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:08:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 13 @ 0.0215 = 0.2795 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:08:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0214 = 0.1712 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:08:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 12 @ 0.0213 = 0.2556 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:08:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0212 = 0.212 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:08:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.02 = 2 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 16:15:24 <ThickAsThieves>	ASICMINER testing? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg1522065#msg1522065
Feb 12 16:16:16 <Diablo-D3>	MY PENIS IS SO HARD RIGHT NOW.
Feb 12 16:17:10 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Feb 12 16:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3250 @ 0.0062 = 20.15 BTC [+]
Feb 12 16:22:30 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: did you get any ASIC orders in?
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Feb 12 16:22:48 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: nope.
Feb 12 16:23:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.1 BTC [+]
Feb 12 16:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.0006441 = 11.626 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 16:26:40 <Bugpowdurr>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143588.msg1510029;boardseen#new
Feb 12 16:26:41 <Bugpowdurr>	??
Feb 12 16:26:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.73600002 = 7.36 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:27:05 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Feb 12 16:27:06 <assbot>	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Feb 12 16:27:20 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 12 16:27:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.52099, Best ask: 25.59999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07900, Last trade: 25.60000, 24 hour volume: 58636.80403702, 24 hour low: 24.28002, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.11691
Feb 12 16:27:24 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: ? You waited for BFL?
Feb 12 16:27:32 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: no?
Feb 12 16:27:41 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: I did the math, batch #3 avalon is too late
Feb 12 16:27:51 <Diablo-D3>	they'd have to cut the price in half and/or double the performance
Feb 12 16:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdurr hurrr
Feb 12 16:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24835 @ 0.00065303 = 16.218 BTC [+]
Feb 12 16:32:54 <jurov>	i should post mircea's words to the wall thread.. maybe he meant 200k BTC, not 200 :D
Feb 12 16:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 12 16:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	im not on mtgox, and it wasn't me.
Feb 12 16:35:20 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu has like half the bitcoins in all existence
Feb 12 16:35:25 <Diablo-D3>	and like 3 bitches, at least 3
Feb 12 16:35:37 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1522320#msg1522320
Feb 12 16:35:43 <Diablo-D3>	one for the cleaning, one for the cooking, and one for the blowjobbing.
Feb 12 16:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	i would like to address this question at this time.
Feb 12 16:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	i do not has half the bitcoins
Feb 12 16:35:55 <jurov>	You know, we're open to North Korea but we don't get any players from there either. It's not my problem.
Feb 12 16:36:22 <jurov>	mircea_popescu but that won't stop me joking
Feb 12 16:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	that thread is getting like a life of its own huh
Feb 12 16:37:38 <jurov>	so if you talk with lawyer you'll end up with online casino for north koreans
Feb 12 16:37:52 <jurov>	that's what the doos is trying to say or?
Feb 12 16:37:55 <jurov>	*dood
Feb 12 16:38:49 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you know, he totally owned you
Feb 12 16:38:55 <mod6>	Inaba is dumb.
Feb 12 16:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	if you were american it;'d work
Feb 12 16:39:32 <Diablo-D3>	inaba isnt dumb as much as well paid
Feb 12 16:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	course now you tell him you're from slovakistan...
Feb 12 16:40:15 <jurov>	no i;ll prolly ask him whether there aren't sanctions for trade with north korea, too
Feb 12 16:40:27 <jurov>	like they do with cuba
Feb 12 16:40:38 <jurov>	or iran
Feb 12 16:40:45 <mircea_popescu>	hello sir i tell you absolutely no trok at all!
Feb 12 16:40:57 <jurov>	?
Feb 12 16:41:09 <mircea_popescu>	it's this histerical video one sec
Feb 12 16:41:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdguyMJprsA
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Feb 12 16:47:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0062 = 0.062 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:47:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0061 = 0.061 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:47:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.00607 = 0.0971 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00599414 = 4.1959 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00599414 = 4.7953 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00065303 = 17.893 BTC [+]
Feb 12 16:57:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00064537 = 1.807 BTC [-]
Feb 12 16:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.0006441 = 16.3923 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:00:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 4 @ 0.1208 = 0.4832 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:01:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1167 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:01:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1159 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:03:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.0006441 = 4.3477 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:04:08 <jurov>	maybe in future we'll have anti-discriminations covenants covering IP addresses lol
Feb 12 17:04:37 <jurov>	or parts of world firewalling off each other... that's more likely, sadly
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Feb 12 17:07:21 <Bugpowder>	That guy has some fucking timing with the puts.
Feb 12 17:08:17 <Bugpowder>	sheeeit.  DIdn't even clear out the wall at 25.60
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Feb 12 17:08:31 <Bugpowder>	This could be the end
Feb 12 17:09:52 <Lyspooner>	.39/.51 market for the 35 puts
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Feb 12 17:11:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.7544899 = 4.5269 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 17:13:10 <jurov>	so,we're basically standing in USG bear traps. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1522652#msg1522652
Feb 12 17:13:46 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 12 17:13:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.01112, Best ask: 25.15999, Bid-ask spread: 0.14887, Last trade: 25.12000, 24 hour volume: 65692.69911298, 24 hour low: 24.29575, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.12086
Feb 12 17:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	what srsly ?!
Feb 12 17:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	omfg
Feb 12 17:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner some whale sold  5k of the 350T puts
Feb 12 17:14:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8669 @ 0.0006441 = 5.5837 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:14:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24831 @ 0.00064269 = 15.9586 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	last month someone whalish doing similar things ended up giving the bot 4-5k
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Feb 12 17:15:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12772 @ 0.00064735 = 8.268 BTC [+]
Feb 12 17:15:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8428 @ 0.00065303 = 5.5037 BTC [+]
Feb 12 17:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	re the something awful, this just in http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/18313.html#18321
Feb 12 17:17:15 <Bugpowder>	DONT PANIC
Feb 12 17:17:24 <Bugpowder>	ask wall at 25.65 IS gone
Feb 12 17:17:33 <Bugpowder>	RALLY IS BACK ON
Feb 12 17:18:00 <truffles>	i was going to ask how SA trololol was going
Feb 12 17:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00599414 = 6.5936 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:18:55 <truffles>	too bad i couldnt be effective in that since im def against lol
Feb 12 17:19:41 <jurov>	you're against lol?
Feb 12 17:19:58 <truffles>	bitcoins are playmoney
Feb 12 17:20:12 <truffles>	mp's army is obv in favor
Feb 12 17:20:44 <jurov>	hm, so i'm living off playmoney?
Feb 12 17:20:54 <jurov>	i've no problem however to call it
Feb 12 17:20:58 <Lyspooner>	you think that's air you're breathing?
Feb 12 17:21:45 <jurov>	Lyspooner you ask me? no i just breathe playstuff :D
Feb 12 17:21:46 <truffles>	oh there u are
Feb 12 17:22:03 <truffles>	why wont i ever be successful lyspooner
Feb 12 17:22:20 <Lyspooner>	because you can't do this!
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Feb 12 17:22:28 <truffles>	omg!!
Feb 12 17:22:39 <jurov>	that was ragequit or?
Feb 12 17:22:41 <truffles>	he's trolling me hard
Feb 12 17:22:43 <truffles>	bastard
Feb 12 17:23:05 <truffles>	he's gonna have to quit a lot now
Feb 12 17:24:40 <jcpham>	ya'll watching huffpost
Feb 12 17:24:52 <jcpham>	http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/-black-history-of-the-white-house/510f071602a760338c00064b
Feb 12 17:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00064269 = 20.5661 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 17:25:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 200 @ 0.0063 = 1.26 BTC [+]
Feb 12 17:25:33 <truffles>	trying to find out about black rambo
Feb 12 17:25:36 <truffles>	whats going on
Feb 12 17:25:58 <jcpham>	evoorhees, shrem, and ver
Feb 12 17:26:04 <jcpham>	talking about coins
Feb 12 17:26:13 <jcpham>	LIVE NOW
Feb 12 17:26:18 <jcpham>	participate
Feb 12 17:26:35 <truffles>	oh let me go type in
Feb 12 17:26:41 <truffles>	its all fake fake fake money
Feb 12 17:26:43 <truffles>	lol
Feb 12 17:26:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
Feb 12 17:27:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 49 @ 0.0099 = 0.4851 BTC [+]
Feb 12 17:27:44 <truffles>	great they just updated teh situation
Feb 12 17:27:53 <truffles>	useful link after all
Feb 12 17:28:18 <mircea_popescu>	i've noticed lyspooner quitbombs
Feb 12 17:28:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1562 @ 0.00065303 = 1.02 BTC [+]
Feb 12 17:28:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2438 @ 0.00065303 = 1.5921 BTC [+]
Feb 12 17:28:54 <truffles>	well if he wants a troll war its one
Feb 12 17:28:57 <truffles>	-e
Feb 12 17:29:53 <truffles>	some guy keeps typing eriks name
Feb 12 17:29:55 <truffles>	hmm
Feb 12 17:30:17 <truffles>	oh he's there too?
Feb 12 17:30:46 <jcpham>	political statement by ver
Feb 12 17:32:03 <truffles>	this guy doesnt have a trusting face..
Feb 12 17:32:22 <mircea_popescu>	anything good ?
Feb 12 17:32:35 <truffles>	uh its on amazon coins and its affect
Feb 12 17:32:39 <truffles>	i missed most of it
Feb 12 17:33:28 <truffles>	well this is news to me, i guess those coins will be pointless..
Feb 12 17:33:52 <truffles>	if its only for apps, electronics..
Feb 12 17:33:57 <evoorhees>	Roger fuckin kicked ass!
Feb 12 17:33:59 <evoorhees>	perfect
Feb 12 17:34:08 <maximian>	he did well
Feb 12 17:34:09 <truffles>	well iyo
Feb 12 17:34:20 <truffles>	get a trusting face person next time
Feb 12 17:35:18 <truffles>	u know like someone who looks like "hey even that guy can do it, its so easy"
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Feb 12 17:37:25 <jborkl>	Shut up truffles you fag
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Feb 12 17:37:38 <truffles>	lol
Feb 12 17:37:47 <mod6>	he's right, stfu
Feb 12 17:38:12 <truffles>	oh lets hate on truffles cuz im not in the cult..
Feb 12 17:38:23 <mod6>	if you want troll do it somewhere else.
Feb 12 17:38:43 <truffles>	how am i trolling iyo
Feb 12 17:40:24 <truffles>	exactly
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Feb 12 17:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2606 @ 0.00064269 = 1.6749 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 17:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00064269 = 4.9808 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 17:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 12 17:49:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.91954, Best ask: 24.91959, Bid-ask spread: 0.00005, Last trade: 24.91959, 24 hour volume: 67001.84703132, 24 hour low: 24.30001, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.12926
Feb 12 17:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	top is actually in ?!
Feb 12 17:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4213 @ 0.00064269 = 2.7077 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000638 = 2.7568 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:50:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 531 @ 0.00063799 = 0.3388 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:50:46 <maximian>	looks like it…
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Feb 12 17:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063824 = 2.7578 BTC [+]
Feb 12 17:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10219 @ 0.00063799 = 6.5196 BTC [-]
Feb 12 17:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4560 @ 0.00063501 = 2.8956 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 17:59:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 7 @ 0.99 = 6.93 BTC [+]
Feb 12 18:01:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065272 = 2.8204 BTC [+]
Feb 12 18:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6729 @ 0.00065303 = 4.3942 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 18:15:58 <Bugpowder>	its gettin ugly
Feb 12 18:16:38 <truffles>	they caught dorner?
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Feb 12 18:21:40 <Bugpowder>	tanking
Feb 12 18:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 12 18:22:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.42101, Best ask: 24.51999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09898, Last trade: 24.42101, 24 hour volume: 71605.40106831, 24 hour low: 24.30010, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.09591
Feb 12 18:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	dude.
Feb 12 18:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	this is so far out there...
Feb 12 18:23:02 <truffles>	ppl jumping ship heh
Feb 12 18:23:26 <Bugpowder>	do u have faith?
Feb 12 18:23:36 <truffles>	in God sure
Feb 12 18:23:38 <truffles>	not in that
Feb 12 18:24:01 <Bugpowder>	weird that is like totally opposite of me
Feb 12 18:24:28 <truffles>	u have faith in bitcoin is what u meant?
Feb 12 18:26:10 <Bugpowder>	pretty big move, but no asks are filling in behind
Feb 12 18:26:59 <truffles>	im curious how these updates are so instant
Feb 12 18:27:11 <Bugpowder>	we were overdue....
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Feb 12 18:28:17 <jurov>	roger ver is quite fuckable
Feb 12 18:28:58 <truffles>	is that so
Feb 12 18:29:23 <kakobreklaa>	ask gettin eaten
Feb 12 18:29:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.00999 = 0.0799 BTC [-]
Feb 12 18:29:52 <truffles>	time to panic
Feb 12 18:29:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 17 @ 0.01 = 0.17 BTC [+]
Feb 12 18:31:31 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 12 18:31:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.70000, Best ask: 24.74000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 24.70000, 24 hour volume: 72844.90194483, 24 hour low: 24.30010, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.08584
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Feb 12 18:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064663 = 2.7941 BTC [-]
Feb 12 18:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064628 = 7.1091 BTC [-]
Feb 12 18:33:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13479 @ 0.00064213 = 8.6553 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 18:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00064703 = 6.7938 BTC [+]
Feb 12 18:37:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065296 = 2.8214 BTC [+]
Feb 12 18:37:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00065303 = 1.0964 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 18:38:28 <Bugpowder>	Nothing enforces my faith in this rally more than the 40% spread in the option contracts. :)
Feb 12 18:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 12 18:38:49 <jurov>	lol
Feb 12 18:39:00 <Bugpowder>	here comes the bounce...
Feb 12 18:39:01 <jurov>	and bitstamp asks got slaughtered
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Feb 12 18:39:22 <Bugpowder>	holy fff
Feb 12 18:39:26 <Bugpowder>	bitstamp lol
Feb 12 18:39:50 <Bugpowder>	I should send some coins over there
Feb 12 18:41:23 <Bugpowder>	Hallelujah!
Feb 12 18:42:14 <Bugpowder>	الله اکبر
Feb 12 18:43:40 <kakobreklaa>	http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
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Feb 12 18:45:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00629999 = 3.15 BTC [+]
Feb 12 18:45:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.0063 = 22.05 BTC [+]
Feb 12 18:47:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71 @ 0.00064213 = 0.0456 BTC [-]
Feb 12 18:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 540 @ 0.00063501 = 0.3429 BTC [-]
Feb 12 18:47:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3409 @ 0.00063131 = 2.1521 BTC [-]
Feb 12 18:47:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 680 @ 0.00063095 = 0.429 BTC [-]
Feb 12 18:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3641 @ 0.00063095 = 2.2973 BTC [-]
Feb 12 18:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063095 = 2.7263 BTC [-]
Feb 12 18:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18238 @ 0.00063094 = 11.5071 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 19:06:48 <Pucilowski>	Whats your typical annual return from dividends in the brick and mortar world of stock markets?
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Feb 12 19:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	something beween 0.x% and a few %
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Feb 12 19:15:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9530 @ 0.00064188 = 6.1171 BTC [+]
Feb 12 19:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065291 = 2.8212 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 19:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 849 @ 0.00065303 = 0.5544 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 19:18:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063126 = 2.7277 BTC [-]
Feb 12 19:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6373 @ 0.00063094 = 4.021 BTC [-]
Feb 12 19:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.006 = 3 BTC [-]
Feb 12 19:29:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064975 = 2.8076 BTC [+]
Feb 12 19:29:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21165 @ 0.00064953 = 13.7473 BTC [-]
Feb 12 19:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00064953 = 2.5332 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 20:05:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006527 = 2.8203 BTC [+]
Feb 12 20:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8006 @ 0.00065303 = 5.2282 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 20:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6967 @ 0.00065367 = 4.5541 BTC [+]
Feb 12 20:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8006 @ 0.00065442 = 5.2393 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 20:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.0006544 = 1.5706 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 20:11:52 <mjr_>	hi all
Feb 12 20:12:01 <wao>	http://mineforeman.com/2013/02/13/800-giga-hash-per-second-user-just-started-mining-at-btcguild/
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Feb 12 20:14:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 160 @ 0.0061 = 0.976 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 20:20:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00625 BTC [+]
Feb 12 20:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9094 @ 0.00065442 = 5.9513 BTC [+]
Feb 12 20:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37773 @ 0.00065621 = 24.787 BTC [+]
Feb 12 20:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7112 @ 0.00065615 = 4.6665 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 20:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.0006562 = 0.3281 BTC [+]
Feb 12 20:50:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4977 @ 0.00065621 = 3.266 BTC [+]
Feb 12 20:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 823 @ 0.00065656 = 0.5403 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 20:50:59 <Bugpowder_>	RALLY CAPS ON
Feb 12 20:51:41 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 12 20:51:48 <Chaang-Noi>	what have i been wearing?
Feb 12 20:51:56 <Chaang-Noi>	oh fuck, that is a wizards hat!!
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Feb 12 20:54:33 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 30
Feb 12 20:54:35 <gribble>	There are currently 29801.729 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 830328.659692 USD in total.
Feb 12 20:54:56 <Chaang-Noi>	30k, was like 16k 12 hours ago. but still, only 30k
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Feb 12 21:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3498 @ 0.00065656 = 2.2966 BTC [+]
Feb 12 21:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25250 @ 0.00065657 = 16.5784 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 21:17:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5002 @ 0.00065729 = 3.2878 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 21:37:17 <Bowjob>	rally
Feb 12 21:37:18 <Bowjob>	!]
Feb 12 21:37:56 <ThickAssLaptop>	too quiet in here
Feb 12 21:39:07 <ThickAssLaptop>	so who is it mining with these asics?
Feb 12 21:39:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065597 = 2.8344 BTC [-]
Feb 12 21:39:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16448 @ 0.00065625 = 10.794 BTC [+]
Feb 12 21:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1018 @ 0.00065761 = 0.6694 BTC [+]
Feb 12 21:39:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1713 @ 0.00065876 = 1.1285 BTC [+]
Feb 12 21:39:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.73931 = 2.2179 BTC [-]
Feb 12 21:39:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.7391 = 6.6519 BTC [-]
Feb 12 21:42:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.74999989 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Feb 12 21:43:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00065876 = 4.4796 BTC [+]
Feb 12 21:44:01 <Bugpowder_>	not me
Feb 12 21:44:08 <Bowjob>	Well, I just got an Avalon update
Feb 12 21:44:22 <Bowjob>	this may be good news, with BTC rally, I pay less BTC for an Avalon this time
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Feb 12 22:01:49 <swhitt>	my deposit is at 14 confirms, anyone around to approve it?
Feb 12 22:03:16 <Bugpowder_>	no
Feb 12 22:03:32 <Bugpowder_>	;;seen mireca_popescu
Feb 12 22:03:32 <gribble>	I have not seen mireca_popescu.
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Feb 12 22:03:38 <swhitt>	gotta wait for the morning in the eu eh?
Feb 12 22:03:43 <Bugpowder_>	yup
Feb 12 22:03:50 <Bugpowder_>	or whenever he gets u
Feb 12 22:03:51 <Bugpowder_>	up
Feb 12 22:04:04 <swhitt>	aok
Feb 12 22:04:05 <Bugpowder_>	what's got the ants in your pants?
Feb 12 22:04:28 <swhitt>	nothing in particular
Feb 12 22:04:40 <Bugpowder_>	I don't imagine we will see much movement in the stocks
Feb 12 22:04:49 <swhitt>	busy all morning, figure I'd execute some trades tonight
Feb 12 22:04:50 <Bugpowder_>	the options might move a bit though
Feb 12 22:04:53 <Bugpowder_>	ya
Feb 12 22:06:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00065875 = 9.6507 BTC [-]
Feb 12 22:06:55 <DeadWeas2l>	;;ticker
Feb 12 22:06:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.11000, Best ask: 25.14665, Bid-ask spread: 0.03665, Last trade: 25.14665, 24 hour volume: 78709.44914488, 24 hour low: 24.31000, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.14376
Feb 12 22:09:50 <DeadWeas2l>	;;ticker
Feb 12 22:09:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.00001, Best ask: 25.14665, Bid-ask spread: 0.14664, Last trade: 25.00001, 24 hour volume: 78724.18534281, 24 hour low: 24.31000, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.14410
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Feb 12 22:10:46 <DeadWeas2l>	truffles:   you there?
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Feb 12 22:16:34 <DeadWeas2l>	is this a small reversal?
Feb 12 22:16:35 <DeadWeas2l>	seems so
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Feb 12 22:19:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 12 @ 0.0831 = 0.9972 BTC [-]
Feb 12 22:20:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.083 BTC [-]
Feb 12 22:21:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.08087 = 0.2426 BTC [-]
Feb 12 22:21:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0808 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 22:27:06 <Namworld>	Quite small indeed
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Feb 12 22:27:32 <DeadWeasel>	i'll take it!
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Feb 12 22:30:56 <DeadWeasel>	ew, big dump about to happen.  well, 1k
Feb 12 22:32:21 <Namworld>	nonsense. Looks stable to me
Feb 12 22:32:55 <DeadWeasel>	well i've got shit for experience and knowlege on this, so I'm shootin from the hip.'
Feb 12 22:33:01 <DeadWeasel>	enlighten me?
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Feb 12 22:45:12 <DeadWeasel>	never thought I'd say this, but it's nice to buy at 25.   yes, early adopters with 100,000k, laugh.
Feb 12 22:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00065875 = 4.5124 BTC [-]
Feb 12 22:45:30 <DeadWeasel>	i'll outlive you.
Feb 12 22:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00065474 = 6.2855 BTC [-]
Feb 12 22:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6835 @ 0.00064953 = 4.4395 BTC [-]
Feb 12 22:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9965 @ 0.00064953 = 6.4726 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 22:49:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064986 = 2.808 BTC [+]
Feb 12 22:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17055 @ 0.00064953 = 11.0777 BTC [-]
Feb 12 22:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20308 @ 0.00064648 = 13.1287 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 22:54:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00064648 = 6.788 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 23:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5916 @ 0.00064648 = 3.8246 BTC [-]
Feb 12 23:03:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0201 = 0.1608 BTC [+]
Feb 12 23:03:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.02 = 2 BTC [-]
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Feb 12 23:14:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065875 = 2.8465 BTC [+]
Feb 12 23:14:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5587 @ 0.00065876 = 3.6805 BTC [+]
Feb 12 23:14:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00065969 = 2.2759 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 23:15:25 <novusordo>	DeadWeasel: probably not, they'll buy doctors with their wealth
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Feb 12 23:15:56 <DeadWeasel>	true, technology is bitch, we'll have to live with them for a while.
Feb 12 23:16:06 <DeadWeasel>	biotech
Feb 12 23:16:16 <DeadWeasel>	and low scruples physicians
Feb 12 23:18:29 <DeadWeasel>	godongiht all
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Feb 12 23:21:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00625 BTC [+]
Feb 12 23:23:09 <Namworld>	http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/
Feb 12 23:23:23 <Namworld>	I'm now at v0.4
Feb 12 23:23:36 <Namworld>	some extra features and auto-reconnect attempts
Feb 12 23:23:47 <Namworld>	just in case
Feb 12 23:24:46 <kakobreklaa>	hm
Feb 12 23:24:49 <kakobreklaa>	seemy buggy in opera
Feb 12 23:24:55 <kakobreklaa>	seems
Feb 12 23:24:58 <kakobreklaa>	the sounds
Feb 12 23:26:26 <kakobreklaa>	ah only default is mute or smth
Feb 12 23:26:28 <kakobreklaa>	dunno
Feb 12 23:26:32 <kakobreklaa>	ill be going.
Feb 12 23:27:30 <Namworld>	I use audio 5 tag, no player on the page. I know latest google chrome works with them. Firefox does not.
Feb 12 23:27:34 <Namworld>	No idea for Opera.
Feb 12 23:37:47 <Namworld>	HTML5 audio tag*
Feb 12 23:47:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00625 BTC [+]
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Feb 12 23:54:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064769 = 2.7987 BTC [-]
Feb 12 23:54:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12279 @ 0.00064757 = 7.9515 BTC [-]
Feb 13 00:11:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3205 @ 0.00064757 = 2.0755 BTC [-]
Feb 13 00:11:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064097 = 2.7696 BTC [-]
Feb 13 00:12:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12004 @ 0.00064096 = 7.6941 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 00:33:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065271 = 2.8204 BTC [+]
Feb 13 00:33:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18087 @ 0.00065284 = 11.8079 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 00:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065226 = 2.8184 BTC [-]
Feb 13 00:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21379 @ 0.00065212 = 13.9417 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 01:14:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065272 = 2.8204 BTC [+]
Feb 13 01:14:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12669 @ 0.00065284 = 8.2708 BTC [+]
Feb 13 01:14:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1923 @ 0.00065969 = 1.2686 BTC [+]
Feb 13 01:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0006597 = 5.9373 BTC [+]
Feb 13 01:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.0006608 = 16.9826 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 01:19:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.0006608 = 1.5859 BTC [+]
Feb 13 01:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066122 = 2.8571 BTC [+]
Feb 13 01:19:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28407 @ 0.00066123 = 18.7836 BTC [+]
Feb 13 01:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7872 @ 0.00066142 = 5.2067 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 01:47:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00069 = 0.69 BTC [-]
Feb 13 01:47:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.00069 = 0.0069 BTC [-]
Feb 13 01:48:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00068 = 0.68 BTC [-]
Feb 13 01:48:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00067 = 0.67 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 01:50:40 <Namworld>	Well... who's going to sell me some S.BBET?
Feb 13 02:10:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0248 = 0.0992 BTC [+]
Feb 13 02:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00065645 = 3.512 BTC [-]
Feb 13 02:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4521 @ 0.00065212 = 2.9482 BTC [-]
Feb 13 02:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064387 = 2.7822 BTC [-]
Feb 13 02:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5494 @ 0.00064387 = 3.5374 BTC [-]
Feb 13 02:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5564 @ 0.00064386 = 3.5824 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 03:03:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00065044 = 3.3823 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 03:20:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Feb 13 03:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.0006556 = 7.605 BTC [+]
Feb 13 03:22:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.00064518 = 0.3548 BTC [-]
Feb 13 03:23:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00065645 = 3.1181 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 03:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4301 @ 0.00065757 = 2.8282 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 03:37:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064528 = 2.7883 BTC [-]
Feb 13 03:37:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11629 @ 0.00064518 = 7.5028 BTC [-]
Feb 13 03:45:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.73931001 = 25.8759 BTC [-]
Feb 13 03:45:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.73931 = 2.2179 BTC [-]
Feb 13 03:46:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.7391 = 13.3038 BTC [-]
Feb 13 03:46:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.735 = 29.4 BTC [-]
Feb 13 03:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10799 @ 0.00065593 = 7.0834 BTC [+]
Feb 13 03:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066098 = 2.8561 BTC [+]
Feb 13 03:51:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7980 @ 0.00066099 = 5.2747 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 04:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5021 @ 0.00064518 = 3.2394 BTC [-]
Feb 13 04:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 413 @ 0.00064387 = 0.2659 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 04:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3908 @ 0.00064387 = 2.5162 BTC [-]
Feb 13 04:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7692 @ 0.00064386 = 4.9526 BTC [-]
Feb 13 04:22:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1500 @ 0.0063 = 9.45 BTC [+]
Feb 13 04:25:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064583 = 2.7906 BTC [+]
Feb 13 04:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50300 @ 0.00064596 = 32.4918 BTC [+]
Feb 13 04:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 3500 @ 0.00165 = 5.775 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 04:56:56 <jurov>	mpex should have faq in russian, too: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_RUSSIA_FOREIGN_ACCOUNTS
Feb 13 04:57:16 <jurov>	hm, and coinbr too something
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Feb 13 05:13:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
Feb 13 05:14:51 <mjr_>	hi
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Feb 13 05:15:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.0025 = 0.005 BTC [+]
Feb 13 05:17:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065629 = 2.8358 BTC [+]
Feb 13 05:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8429 @ 0.00065606 = 5.5299 BTC [-]
Feb 13 05:18:04 <Namworld>	0.0025 O.o
Feb 13 05:18:16 <Namworld>	too high... I'd better put some shares for sale.
Feb 13 05:18:25 <Namworld>	ask should be ~0.00195
Feb 13 05:22:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00067 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 05:36:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3498 = 3.498 BTC [+]
Feb 13 05:37:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30981 @ 0.00065606 = 20.3254 BTC [-]
Feb 13 05:38:09 <mjr_>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 13 05:38:10 <gribble>	25.25
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Feb 13 05:50:30 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 13 05:50:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.61001, Best ask: 25.61999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00998, Last trade: 25.61999, 24 hour volume: 75477.79248748, 24 hour low: 24.40000, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.24795
Feb 13 05:50:50 <Bowjob>	well, expect to see triple digits by the end of the year if this shit continues
Feb 13 05:57:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3498 = 3.498 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 06:02:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1205 @ 0.00625 = 7.5313 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 06:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065907 = 2.8478 BTC [+]
Feb 13 06:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12179 @ 0.00065914 = 8.0277 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 06:25:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.02478 = 0.1239 BTC [-]
Feb 13 06:27:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 21 @ 0.01 = 0.21 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 06:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065894 = 2.8473 BTC [-]
Feb 13 06:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21823 @ 0.00065914 = 14.3844 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 06:43:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.741 = 1.482 BTC [+]
Feb 13 06:43:55 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 13 06:43:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.63003, Best ask: 25.68030, Bid-ask spread: 0.05027, Last trade: 25.63003, 24 hour volume: 72237.46178730, 24 hour low: 24.40000, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.24012
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Feb 13 06:59:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00625 = 0.625 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 07:00:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.58102, Best ask: 25.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11898, Last trade: 25.58102, 24 hour volume: 71191.01497053, 24 hour low: 24.40000, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.23932
Feb 13 07:04:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 8 @ 0.57 = 4.56 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:06:08 <mjr__>	hey jurov
Feb 13 07:06:10 <mjr__>	hey mircea
Feb 13 07:06:19 <mjr__>	what's new
Feb 13 07:06:51 <jurov>	hi, should be?
Feb 13 07:06:59 <mjr__>	think i will be getting a referral soon for coinbr soon
Feb 13 07:07:12 <jurov>	oh yes, i'm on it
Feb 13 07:07:15 <mjr__>	my friend is finally getting sick of watching my returns and wants to get in
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Feb 13 07:07:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0099 = 0.99 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:08:03 <jurov>	i mean, we have to be sure all is correct before paying out referrals
Feb 13 07:08:15 <mjr__>	yeah of course
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Feb 13 07:08:20 <jurov>	so they're paid very infrequently, like once a month
Feb 13 07:08:24 <mjr__>	mostly just want to get more people into the bitcoin world
Feb 13 07:08:29 <jurov>	it's gonne be better
Feb 13 07:08:32 <mjr__>	yeah of course that is fine
Feb 13 07:09:14 <mjr__>	but you have made trading and investing on mpex very easy to use
Feb 13 07:09:42 <mjr__>	i am really hoping that a bunch of these US btc exchanges start taking off
Feb 13 07:09:43 <jurov>	and otherwise all is well, s.mpoe behaves nicely for the bot to feed on again
Feb 13 07:09:53 <mjr__>	having all the volume going through mt. gox makes me nervous
Feb 13 07:10:24 <jurov>	i'd be nervous instead if all the volumewent thru some us exchange
Feb 13 07:10:38 <jurov>	with all the sec/doj freaks
Feb 13 07:10:53 <mjr__>	true
Feb 13 07:11:07 <mjr__>	i just would like the volume to be split through 20 exchanges all across the world
Feb 13 07:12:15 <jurov>	perhaps it will, after margins get squeezed, local exchanges may get upper hand
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Feb 13 07:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065611 = 2.8351 BTC [-]
Feb 13 07:12:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7106 @ 0.00065606 = 4.662 BTC [-]
Feb 13 07:12:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17508 @ 0.00064956 = 11.3725 BTC [-]
Feb 13 07:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065883 = 2.8468 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20198 @ 0.00065914 = 13.3133 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:13:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23381 @ 0.00065941 = 15.4177 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:15:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:15:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:16:37 <mjr__>	think we'll see 26 today?
Feb 13 07:17:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Feb 13 07:17:36 <jurov>	i cashed out at 24.21 yest, am really not interested in such discussions :D
Feb 13 07:18:21 <jurov>	mircea_popescu hello, have you seen the newspost about russians officially forbidden to own foreign securities?
Feb 13 07:19:27 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Feb 13 07:19:30 <jurov>	hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_RUSSIA_FOREIGN_ACCOUNTS
Feb 13 07:19:51 <jurov>	time to add russian faq to mpex (and for me to search for translator)
Feb 13 07:21:12 <mjr__>	that article was referring to specifically people in politics
Feb 13 07:21:16 <mjr__>	that is the first point
Feb 13 07:21:31 <mjr__>	the second point is that they are doing that to try and lessen influence from outside countries and lobbyists
Feb 13 07:21:42 <mjr__>	it is an anti-corruption initiative
Feb 13 07:22:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.3255 = 0.9765 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:22:53 <mjr__>	some people view it as isolationist
Feb 13 07:23:05 <mjr__>	but in general, i don't think it has much to do with currency exchange
Feb 13 07:24:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.33 = 3.3 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:24:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2285 @ 0.00064956 = 1.4842 BTC [-]
Feb 13 07:24:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064828 = 2.8012 BTC [-]
Feb 13 07:24:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1197 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14344 @ 0.00064827 = 9.2988 BTC [-]
Feb 13 07:25:25 <jurov>	i just meant that more people can get motivated to put their savings into btc
Feb 13 07:25:37 <jurov>	cause btc is quite well known in russia
Feb 13 07:27:16 <jurov>	and it's likely putin will try to extend this "protection" to others, for example to all govt employees
Feb 13 07:27:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.338 = 1.352 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:27:41 <jurov>	and their underage children, lol
Feb 13 07:30:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.747 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:30:42 <EskimoBob>	jurov: what's up with you and mpex? Are you working for that joker?
Feb 13 07:31:25 <jurov>	hm, it can be said that way, why?
Feb 13 07:32:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:32:45 <EskimoBob>	just asking
Feb 13 07:34:46 <jurov>	ic. just to remind me. thx.
Feb 13 07:35:48 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141638.0;all lol check out all the interest for things mpoe-pr DOESNT shoot down
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Feb 13 07:38:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143766.0 sdice experts nao. confused by ipo shit, plays and wins every time. dun dun.
Feb 13 07:43:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:44:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 80 @ 0.02479 = 1.9832 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:44:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:45:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0699 BTC [-]
Feb 13 07:47:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 4 @ 0.57 = 2.28 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:49:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065251 = 2.8195 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12179 @ 0.00065255 = 7.9474 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:50:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1091 BTC [-]
Feb 13 07:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1855 @ 0.00065255 = 1.2105 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00065779 = 1.776 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 195 @ 0.00065941 = 0.1286 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:53:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.07 = 0.28 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:54:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.075 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:54:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Feb 13 07:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 13 07:56:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.71000000 / 0.73926695 / 0.75449000 (138 shares, 102.01883973 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.64230514 / 0.76500000 (4515 shares, 2900.00772552 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.64311671 / 0.89000000 (10784 shares, 6935.37056152 BTC)
Feb 13 07:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker bf sdice
Feb 13 07:56:19 <assbot>	Some are born to endless night.
Feb 13 07:56:24 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct sdice
Feb 13 07:56:26 <assbot>	Things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun.
Feb 13 07:56:33 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct gsdpt
Feb 13 07:56:35 <assbot>	[BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.006 / 0.0062 / 0.00625 (1444 shares, 9.0 BTC),  7D: 0.0052 / 0.01 / 0.0064 (61684 shares, 379.2 BTC), 30D: 0.0044 / 0.01 / 0.0082 (182124 shares, 1141.4 BTC)
Feb 13 07:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	bejesus this shit's confusing
Feb 13 07:58:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00609358 = 15.234 BTC [-]
Feb 13 07:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00618365 = 12.3673 BTC [+]
Feb 13 08:00:51 <truffles>	not confusing at all to me
Feb 13 08:00:59 <truffles>	makes sooo much sense
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Feb 13 08:06:04 <ThickAsThieves>	I don't get how when you're on the mtgox home page it shows Last Prices that are higher than what clarkmoody shows, i'd check the goxlive chart but it doesnt load
Feb 13 08:06:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i saw several $26+ last prices
Feb 13 08:07:00 <Bowjob>	that's the secret options trading on mt gox
Feb 13 08:07:04 <Bowjob>	for the big players
Feb 13 08:07:25 <Bowjob>	meh, i cant sleep
Feb 13 08:07:29 <truffles>	secret
Feb 13 08:07:32 <Bowjob>	them bitcoins
Feb 13 08:08:03 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Feb 13 08:08:07 <truffles>	whats on the mind bowjob?
Feb 13 08:08:26 <BitHub>	dat spreaaaad
Feb 13 08:09:30 <Bowjob>	s.dice volume being so low
Feb 13 08:09:38 <Bowjob>	bet volume, i mean.
Feb 13 08:10:01 <Bowjob>	as soon as james get back i know havelock will tank
Feb 13 08:10:04 <truffles>	well erick backout out on the utube vid so might as well be
Feb 13 08:10:11 <error4733>	yes we need a whale
Feb 13 08:10:43 <Bowjob>	i wonder what the purpose of those flags in satoshidice website
Feb 13 08:10:58 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 13 08:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00599414 / 0.00622848 / 0.0064 (56150 shares, 349.73 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00624319 / 0.00677999 (2386061 shares, 14,896.66 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00559687 / 0.0075 (8232109 shares, 46,074.13 BTC)
Feb 13 08:11:15 <Bowjob>	methinks eric should translate the website to chinese people
Feb 13 08:11:27 <truffles>	lol
Feb 13 08:11:37 <Bowjob>	they have some serious purchasing power.. they make the houses here so exp
Feb 13 08:11:47 <truffles>	i saw the option to play? sdice on blockchain
Feb 13 08:11:48 <Bowjob>	may as well make s.dice more exp
Feb 13 08:11:59 <Bowjob>	its been there for quite a while now
Feb 13 08:12:01 <truffles>	no clue what was going on or id wager my .0005 btc
Feb 13 08:13:15 <error4733>	we start a collect for a bounty ?
Feb 13 08:13:56 <error4733>	and ask for translation on chinese part of btctalk
Feb 13 08:14:24 <error4733>	EV+ for each share holder !
Feb 13 08:15:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [+]
Feb 13 08:15:58 <Bowjob>	just hire this satoshi dice expert
Feb 13 08:16:12 <Bowjob>	guaranteed wins
Feb 13 08:16:22 <error4733>	i send 10btc to him
Feb 13 08:16:31 <error4733>	i have to wait 24h he say
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Feb 13 08:18:07 <truffles>	wouldnt be in that guys best interest to do that utube would it
Feb 13 08:18:48 <error4733>	seems legit with 21 post
Feb 13 08:18:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
Feb 13 08:19:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.01 = 0.08 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 08:25:06 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 13 08:25:06 <gribble>	1 BTC = 25.46003 U.S. dollars = 18.8970756 Euros
Feb 13 08:26:11 <EskimoBob>	error4733: a sdice expert?
Feb 13 08:27:34 <EskimoBob>	Bowjob: this question was for you :)
Feb 13 08:28:12 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143766.msg1524078#msg1524078
Feb 13 08:28:24 <Bowjob>	Yeap, I can't wait to send this person 200 BTC
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Feb 13 08:30:00 <Pucilowski>	Is there any plans for S.DICE to expand? Add more games? anything of the sort?
Feb 13 08:31:17 <EskimoBob>	Bowjob: start a "pass trough" issue 600 billion shares at 0.000001 and list it gypsy bazaar aka Major Muppets Exchange
Feb 13 08:31:51 <EskimoBob>	what can go wrong? ;)
Feb 13 08:33:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00064861 = 1.1026 BTC [-]
Feb 13 08:34:43 <jurov>	says clay mugs workshop asset expert.
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Feb 13 08:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	Pucilowski unlikely i'd guess
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Feb 13 08:42:21 <Bowjob>	we just need whales to play
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Feb 13 08:45:08 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe they want higher stakes
Feb 13 08:45:23 <kakobreklaa>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21439945
Feb 13 08:46:26 <jurov>	eu should demand IP laws concessions from us
Feb 13 08:46:34 <jurov>	i suspect it went other way instead
Feb 13 08:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16100000/-cats-16140154-1920-1080.jpg
Feb 13 08:47:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065669 = 2.8376 BTC [+]
Feb 13 08:47:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1078 @ 0.00065666 = 0.7079 BTC [-]
Feb 13 08:50:23 <Bowjob>	i got an email from avalon saying they'll re open 300 more ASICS
Feb 13 08:50:25 <Bowjob>	for batch 2
Feb 13 08:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 13 08:50:53 <BitHub>	what?
Feb 13 08:50:57 <BitHub>	for realz?
Feb 13 08:51:07 <Bowjob>	forget i said anything. no im trolling
Feb 13 08:51:24 *	BitHub puts his pants back on
Feb 13 08:51:58 <Bowjob>	now it could be a gamble, though im pretty sure bfl still has their heads up their asses
Feb 13 08:54:28 <Bowjob>	"So it's looking like the week of the 17th for shipping, probably a bit later in the week unless the bumping house really pulls it together, we might be able to ship as early at the 18th, but that is pretty optimistic, more likely is around the 22nd or so."
Feb 13 08:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	that's like a week old by now neh ?
Feb 13 08:56:08 <Bowjob>	" The chips have been delivered by FedEx to the bumping facility. We will hopefully hear from the bumping facility tonight or tomorrow with regards to them, but I do not expect any movement on it until the 14th at the earliest.  But... they were here and waiting, so the biggest hurdle in terms of delivery has been achieved."
Feb 13 08:56:35 <Bowjob>	it seems to me he keeps saying, okay, 2 weeks from now
Feb 13 08:56:43 <Bowjob>	2 weeks passes, okay 1 week from now
Feb 13 08:56:48 <Bowjob>	then 3.5 days from now
Feb 13 08:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00065782 = 7.3018 BTC [+]
Feb 13 08:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27630 @ 0.00065941 = 18.2195 BTC [+]
Feb 13 08:57:13 <Bowjob>	following an arithmetic sequence
Feb 13 08:58:21 <Bowjob>	actually its geometric lol
Feb 13 08:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	you need to dig deeper
Feb 13 08:58:30 <mircea_popescu>	it's been delayed for ~3-4 months by now
Feb 13 08:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	so more like a harmonic
Feb 13 08:58:43 <Bowjob>	ah
Feb 13 08:58:44 <Bowjob>	ll
Feb 13 08:58:46 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 13 08:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	4 weeks 2 weeks 1 week 2 weeks 4 weeks 2 weeks etc
Feb 13 08:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	anyway it's a pity nobody really cares, this entire asic stuff could have been such a birthing spawnpool of memes
Feb 13 08:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	"HURDLE HAS BEEN ACHIEVED!"
Feb 13 09:01:15 <jurov>	"quagmire achieved" already on much larger scale
Feb 13 09:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	hey, did that bash.org you submitted ever get approved ? what was it ?
Feb 13 09:02:33 <jurov>	dunno, it's few months already...it was about someone becoming your intern
Feb 13 09:03:47 <jurov>	and i don't believe in mass asics deployment...unless they feature one on fox news :D
Feb 13 09:04:24 <mircea_popescu>	i'll believe it when i see output move
Feb 13 09:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	Network total	24.620 Thash/s. what asics ?
Feb 13 09:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	supposedly avalon has been shipping for what, 2 weeks now ?
Feb 13 09:05:02 <mircea_popescu>	where's the asics ?
Feb 13 09:06:23 <truffles>	in your house
Feb 13 09:07:43 <Bowjob>	there a single user with 1 terahash of power
Feb 13 09:07:52 <Bowjob>	mining at btc guild
Feb 13 09:08:45 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/xGSYf1C.png
Feb 13 09:08:49 <Bowjob>	them asics!
Feb 13 09:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	you can represent your power coming from 100 units as a single unit and vice-versa if you so please.
Feb 13 09:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	also, the person running btc guild said it was a website error
Feb 13 09:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12295 @ 0.00065666 = 8.0736 BTC [-]
Feb 13 09:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5575 @ 0.00064827 = 3.6141 BTC [-]
Feb 13 09:11:24 <pigeons>	btcguild charges 5%
Feb 13 09:11:50 <pigeons>	i wouldnt pick them
Feb 13 09:15:58 <TomServo>	pigeons: who would you use for a measly 670Mh/s?
Feb 13 09:16:41 <Bowjob>	fuck asics. lets solve blocks by hand
Feb 13 09:17:06 <Bowjob>	gimme a piece of paper, i'll write hashes manually
Feb 13 09:18:14 <pigeons>	TomServo: i dunno man
Feb 13 09:18:25 <pigeons>	try em all
Feb 13 09:21:10 <truffles>	time to invest in bowjob
Feb 13 09:22:08 <Bowjob>	so just to be sure im doing this correctly
Feb 13 09:22:10 <Bowjob>	724f039942614e8f442490260edd2535b8f6728133ef0ce7f705ae87b2495e94
Feb 13 09:22:31 <Bowjob>	i need to write a fuckton of these right?
Feb 13 09:23:12 <Bowjob>	66 million of these strings per second to match an asic, right?
Feb 13 09:24:08 <pigeons>	waka waka
Feb 13 09:24:28 <Bowjob>	wait
Feb 13 09:24:32 <Bowjob>	billion
Feb 13 09:24:35 <jurov>	mircea_popescu another desync or it's just me?
Feb 13 09:24:37 <Bowjob>	inot million
Feb 13 09:24:55 <Bowjob>	so 66 billion of those per sec
Feb 13 09:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov not desync, upgrade.
Feb 13 09:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	back soon.
Feb 13 09:25:23 <Bowjob>	challenge accepted
Feb 13 09:25:29 <Bowjob>	ill write em by hand. brb
Feb 13 09:25:31 <Bowjob>	hold my beer
Feb 13 09:25:36 <jurov>	i like that, bareback monkey upgrades
Feb 13 09:25:53 <truffles>	hold it or drink it
Feb 13 09:26:00 *	jurov goes "git merge origin" on live mechine :P
Feb 13 09:26:16 <Bowjob>	just hold it it wont take long
Feb 13 09:26:29 <truffles>	k ill go hold it in my room
Feb 13 09:26:56 <truffles>	good thing i dont like beer
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Feb 13 09:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	jurov back.
Feb 13 09:29:22 <jurov>	lol so i accidentally picked best time to pay referrals.. no mpex activity
Feb 13 09:29:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065906 = 2.8478 BTC [+]
Feb 13 09:29:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7179 @ 0.00065941 = 4.7339 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 09:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00065941 = 0.0066 BTC [+]
Feb 13 09:32:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.35 = 3.5 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 09:37:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00065941 = 0.0066 BTC [+]
Feb 13 09:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you'll be happy tho. look at a statjson.
Feb 13 09:41:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2621 @ 0.00064831 = 1.6992 BTC [-]
Feb 13 09:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10879 @ 0.00064827 = 7.0525 BTC [-]
Feb 13 09:42:52 <jurov>	looks...can't discern anything new...looks into other account...
Feb 13 09:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	o srsly ?
Feb 13 09:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	look a little closer ?
Feb 13 09:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	under trade history.
Feb 13 09:44:07 <jurov>	"TradeHistory":[{"1360766495":{"MPSIC":"S.MPOE", "Track":"MPEx", "BS":"B", "Quantity":"2621", "Price":"64831"}}
Feb 13 09:44:10 <jurov>	Track?
Feb 13 09:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	that will populate with the first 4 chars of the md5 of the order.
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Feb 13 09:45:17 <jurov>	nice \o/
Feb 13 09:45:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064848 = 2.8021 BTC [+]
Feb 13 09:45:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12109 @ 0.00064827 = 7.8499 BTC [-]
Feb 13 09:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00064783 = 3.6926 BTC [-]
Feb 13 09:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7470 @ 0.00064609 = 4.8263 BTC [-]
Feb 13 09:45:57 <jurov>	the first acct had empty trade history, that's why
Feb 13 09:46:40 <mircea_popescu>	ah
Feb 13 09:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	so from now on, if you keep a db of the md5 of the orders you send
Feb 13 09:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	you can compare executions and sort them out.
Feb 13 09:47:59 <mircea_popescu>	and if the order is not in your list you know your book got hit.
Feb 13 09:48:29 <jurov>	yes. just curious, why md5? it's both slower and less safe than sha
Feb 13 09:48:46 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's actually faster neh ?
Feb 13 09:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	safety is hardly a concern, what diff would it make ?
Feb 13 09:49:33 <jurov>	;;google md5 sha1 speed
Feb 13 09:49:34 <gribble>	cryptography - Is calculating an MD5 hash less CPU intensive than ...: <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2722943/is-calculating-an-md5-hash-less-cpu-intensive-than-sha-1-or-sha-2>; Journal of Omnifarious - Myth: MD5 is faster than SHA-1: <http://omnifarious.livejournal.com/363945.html>; Re: MD5 vs. SHA-1, Performance & Pedigree: (1 more message)
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Feb 13 09:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	MD5       411
Feb 13 09:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	SHA-1     218
Feb 13 09:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	SHA-256   118
Feb 13 09:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	SHA-512    46
Feb 13 09:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	mb/s
Feb 13 09:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	possibly sha-1 is faster for large-ish files
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Feb 13 09:50:56 <jurov>	anyway for this simple use case it's moot
Feb 13 09:51:07 <jurov>	not a big difference
Feb 13 09:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	ya for that matter could have just added all the bits together lol
Feb 13 09:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, it was funny cause i deliberately didn't say anything to see if the ~5 minute downtime window would be noticed at all.
Feb 13 09:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	guess what, it was noticed within 10 seconds
Feb 13 09:54:31 <jurov>	hehe just cause i happened to do stuff and noticed it's waiting for an order
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Feb 13 09:56:16 <jurov>	hm, that order from 14:14 UTC is still waiting
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Feb 13 10:03:10 <kakobreklaa>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 13 10:03:10 <gribble>	1 BTC = 26.10720 U.S. dollars = 19.3774215 Euros
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Feb 13 10:08:22 <jurov>	26?
Feb 13 10:08:27 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 13 10:08:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.00000, Best ask: 26.13499, Bid-ask spread: 0.13499, Last trade: 26.13500, 24 hour volume: 73652.58496085, 24 hour low: 24.40000, 24 hour high: 26.13500, 24 hour vwap: 25.33009
Feb 13 10:08:32 <jurov>	yup
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Feb 13 10:23:00 <truffles>	"'Being permanently aroused is TORTURE': Shop worker, 22, has 50 orgasms a day and is even turned on by her mobile phone"
Feb 13 10:23:04 <truffles>	great problem to have
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Feb 13 10:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00618364 = 0.0618 BTC [-]
Feb 13 10:25:46 <pigeons>	big order there
Feb 13 10:26:04 *	kakobreklaa is now known as kakobrekla
Feb 13 10:26:30 <assbot>	 no worries, i can handle it.
Feb 13 10:27:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 13 10:29:24 <jurov>	lol.. we're just testing this new track gizmo
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Feb 13 10:32:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00618364 = 0.0618 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 10:35:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 10:45:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9 @ 0.00618364 = 0.0557 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 10:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8 @ 0.00618364 = 0.0495 BTC [-]
Feb 13 10:52:56 <mjr__>	mircea are you here?
Feb 13 10:53:14 <mjr__>	just learned that nomura is using pgp
Feb 13 10:53:27 <mjr__>	think soon everyone will be doing things like mpex
Feb 13 10:53:38 <mjr__>	since it is so much obviously better
Feb 13 10:54:07 <jurov>	unless they do it like my bank... sends emails with pgp signature.. but pubkey is nowhere to be found
Feb 13 10:54:12 <jurov>	scumbags
Feb 13 10:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	i am here.
Feb 13 10:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ and of course they will. there's no other way.
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Feb 13 11:07:45 <error4733>	S.dice profit look good with the BTC rise . 7K profit is like 14K last month...
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Feb 13 11:12:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3399 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 11:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	that's a point
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Feb 13 11:15:20 <kakobrekla>	yea
Feb 13 11:15:32 <kakobrekla>	a handy excuse with souch deflationary currency
Feb 13 11:15:36 <kakobrekla>	such
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Feb 13 11:20:28 <error4733>	that's a point
Feb 13 11:21:24 <Bugpowder>	26.30
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Feb 13 11:22:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0099 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
Feb 13 11:23:44 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 13 11:23:45 <gribble>	1 BTC = 25.96000 U.S. dollars = 19.268166 Euros
Feb 13 11:23:47 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Feb 13 11:24:00 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 220990 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 769 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 19 hours, 21 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
Feb 13 11:26:26 <DeaDTerra>	WTB XRP, starting ask at 55k XRP per BTC. Please pm me an offer :)
Feb 13 11:28:59 <Bugpowder>	is XRP / BTC going up or down?
Feb 13 11:30:14 <ThickAsThieves>	where does one even get XRP?
Feb 13 11:30:28 <ThickAsThieves>	I see 1000xrp for .6 btc on bitmit
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Feb 13 11:59:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.02 = 2 BTC [-]
Feb 13 11:59:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 15 @ 0.02 = 0.3 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 12:02:47 <mircea_popescu>	and the mpex upgrade announcement http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-improved-order-tracking/
Feb 13 12:03:40 <jcpham>	added more duct tape?
Feb 13 12:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	mhm.
Feb 13 12:03:51 <jcpham>	or more hamsters to the wheels
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Feb 13 12:05:05 <error4733>	duct tape save africa, could save mpex
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Feb 13 12:08:14 <jurov>	what hamsters? already was said that behind the racks there are female slaves concealed (with PhD in accounting, i guess)
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Feb 13 12:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	acuntin'.
Feb 13 12:13:45 <jurov>	track value shown in pimpex nao: https://github.com/jurov/pyMPEx
Feb 13 12:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	a good idea!
Feb 13 12:14:34 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143810.msg1524703#msg1524703
Feb 13 12:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	  print 'Track: ' + md5d[0:4] + "\n"
Feb 13 12:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	gotta love py
Feb 13 12:15:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol kakobrekla
Feb 13 12:15:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 963 @ 0.00618364 = 5.9548 BTC [-]
Feb 13 12:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 390 @ 0.00618365 = 2.4116 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.0061999 = 1.55 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0062 = 4.34 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 12:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	"It is quite common that during IPO most of the funds come from people You know. Only maybe 5%-10% are from private people that just react to the public offer."
Feb 13 12:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	these people...
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Feb 13 12:22:45 <jurov>	lol sometimes it happens... when i launched MPBPT that was memorable
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Feb 13 12:23:09 <jurov>	fabianb asked "do you have enough to buy a bond? i consider investing"
Feb 13 12:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.btcguild.com/halloffame.php
Feb 13 12:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	that guy got 23mn shares
Feb 13 12:23:24 <jurov>	me "yeah, i can add my own btcs, no prob"
Feb 13 12:23:32 <jurov>	fabianb "nevermind then"
Feb 13 12:23:39 <jurov>	i was like O.o
Feb 13 12:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	the guy has never been involved with an ipo at all, either here or there. yet he comments on what "is common".
Feb 13 12:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	obviously the forum sperg laps it up, but still.
Feb 13 12:24:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006566 = 2.8372 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00065683 = 8.2104 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	this "everything is equal to everything else" mentality is probably the #1 most obnoxious thing about bitcoin.
Feb 13 12:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00625 = 6.25 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:25:30 <FabianB_>	jurov: was that my wording?
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Feb 13 12:26:09 <jurov>	something like that
Feb 13 12:27:08 <FabianB_>	yeah, i invested 20 btc and at that point not many more ppl bought mpbpt
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Feb 13 12:27:24 <FabianB_>	i was curious if you fill the gap to 100
Feb 13 12:27:44 <jurov>	yes in kow and thanks. but at that moment it was like wtf
Feb 13 12:27:54 <jurov>	*i know and thanks
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Feb 13 12:29:58 <FabianB_>	well, i just wanted to know if you alternatively thought about just buying back shares instead
Feb 13 12:30:36 <jurov>	well, if i got less than 50btc.. that would be hard decision
Feb 13 12:31:01 <FabianB_>	it's not a matter of how much you got; but how much you wanted to put yourself into
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Feb 13 12:31:41 <FabianB_>	but yeah, i guessed the answer, but i thought asking doesn't cost me anything
Feb 13 12:32:46 <jurov>	oh no problem sorry if you feel defamed a bit
Feb 13 12:33:07 <jurov>	i should have anonymized that... it was just hilarious misunderstanding
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Feb 13 12:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00065921 = 4.3508 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:34:34 <jurov>	brb
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Feb 13 12:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2080 @ 0.00622 = 12.9376 BTC [-]
Feb 13 12:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16897 @ 0.0062 = 104.7614 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 12:38:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1479 @ 0.00065921 = 0.975 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065105 = 2.8132 BTC [-]
Feb 13 12:38:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00065102 = 11.7835 BTC [-]
Feb 13 12:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3916 @ 0.00064609 = 2.5301 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 12:41:03 <kakobrekla>	8 days later it found enhancments
Feb 13 12:41:04 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/2n/hg/pts7hyK/critbtc.png
Feb 13 12:41:29 <kakobrekla>	majorish change on green line around 75 :>
Feb 13 12:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol 75 ?!
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Feb 13 12:42:25 <kakobrekla>	difficulty change 75
Feb 13 12:42:49 <kakobrekla>	on the x
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Feb 13 12:50:31 <kakobrekla>	seems like every ~25 difficulties shit happens.
Feb 13 12:50:43 <kakobrekla>	good shit.
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Feb 13 12:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065924 = 2.8486 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:53:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1530 @ 0.0006594 = 1.0089 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5373 @ 0.0006594 = 3.543 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:53:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9768 @ 0.00065941 = 6.4411 BTC [+]
Feb 13 12:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.ir/ lol
Feb 13 12:54:18 <kakobrekla>	infra red.
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Feb 13 12:58:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136076188384.png
Feb 13 12:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	that is pretty good
Feb 13 12:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	(no porno)
Feb 13 13:00:01 <broomkorn>	lol
Feb 13 13:00:33 <kakobrekla>	it gets cut at 'UFO'
Feb 13 13:00:38 <kakobrekla>	now im left confused
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Feb 13 13:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064639 = 2.7931 BTC [-]
Feb 13 13:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2359 @ 0.00064609 = 1.5241 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 13:12:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.710101 = 2.1303 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 13:41:43 <truffles>	mp can u do the tango?
Feb 13 13:43:08 <kakobrekla>	>overall americans are carrying a grand total of 798 billion in credit card debt. if you were alive when jesus was born and you spent a million dollars every singla day since then, you still would not have spent 798 billion by now.
Feb 13 13:43:09 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 13 13:43:32 <truffles>	wow
Feb 13 13:49:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064621 = 2.7923 BTC [+]
Feb 13 13:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12434 @ 0.00064609 = 8.0335 BTC [-]
Feb 13 13:49:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 868 @ 0.00064519 = 0.56 BTC [-]
Feb 13 13:50:56 <jurov>	that's how much per head, including newborns?
Feb 13 13:51:09 <jurov>	;;calc 798e9/300e6
Feb 13 13:51:10 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Feb 13 13:51:15 <jurov>	;;calc 798e9 / 300e6
Feb 13 13:51:15 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Feb 13 13:51:35 <jurov>	;;calc 798.0e9 / 300.0e6
Feb 13 13:51:35 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Feb 13 13:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	jurov a coupla thousand.
Feb 13 13:52:19 <jurov>	yeah.but now i'm obsessed to find out how to do it right
Feb 13 13:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064545 = 2.789 BTC [+]
Feb 13 13:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13574 @ 0.00064519 = 8.7578 BTC [-]
Feb 13 13:54:23 <mod6>	;;calc 800000000000/300000000
Feb 13 13:54:23 <gribble>	2666.66666667
Feb 13 13:55:50 <jurov>	btw, i'm "shorting" euros similarly
Feb 13 14:00:49 <pigeons>	i'm going to issue colored coins in a bridge
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Feb 13 14:05:06 <truffles>	mod6 that is incorrect
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Feb 13 14:05:47 <jurov>	truffles, why?
Feb 13 14:06:11 <truffles>	who wants to type out 11 zeros
Feb 13 14:06:57 <jurov>	cause he got inficted by my obsession. poor fellow
Feb 13 14:07:19 <jurov>	*infected
Feb 13 14:07:31 <truffles>	i must shoot down that zombie
Feb 13 14:07:55 <truffles>	jurov can u do the tango dance+
Feb 13 14:08:00 <truffles>	?*
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Feb 13 14:08:27 <jurov>	what do you mean?
Feb 13 14:08:43 <mod6>	ITS INCORRECT BECAUSE mod6 USES ZEROS! WHAT A QUEER!
Feb 13 14:09:05 *	mod6 bangs head
Feb 13 14:09:13 <jurov>	that's not queer. that's plain cheating
Feb 13 14:09:18 <mod6>	haha
Feb 13 14:09:20 <jurov>	BRAAAAAINS
Feb 13 14:09:36 <truffles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXhQNRsH3uc the tango
Feb 13 14:09:42 <mod6>	;;help calc
Feb 13 14:09:42 <gribble>	(calc <math expression>) -- Returns the value of the evaluated <math expression>. The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact.
Feb 13 14:11:01 <truffles>	they make it look so easy
Feb 13 14:11:08 <jurov>	oh that tango. i've had a basic dance course but forgot long ago
Feb 13 14:12:30 <mod6>	;;calc 798*10**9/300*10**6
Feb 13 14:12:30 <gribble>	2660000000000000
Feb 13 14:12:35 <mod6>	yipes
Feb 13 14:12:40 *	truffles claps
Feb 13 14:12:56 <jurov>	aims silver-bulleted gun
Feb 13 14:13:04 <truffles>	lol
Feb 13 14:13:05 <jurov>	oh that's for vampires instead
Feb 13 14:13:18 *	jurov is screwed
Feb 13 14:13:35 <truffles>	this queer likes his quick thinking
Feb 13 14:13:43 <truffles>	"queer"
Feb 13 14:15:23 <jurov>	didn't you miss a door? you should talk to daniel^2 in #bitcoin-otc
Feb 13 14:15:37 <jurov>	if you want something queer
Feb 13 14:15:46 <truffles>	didnt say i was..
Feb 13 14:15:54 <truffles>	just what he refered to me as
Feb 13 14:16:15 <truffles>	seems as though nerds hate queers
Feb 13 14:16:23 <mod6>	fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Feb 13 14:16:30 <jurov>	true. i do hate myself sometimes
Feb 13 14:17:34 <jurov>	but well managed hate is the basic fundation of good relationshiip
Feb 13 14:17:38 <truffles>	thats a weird state to be in
Feb 13 14:18:28 <jurov>	why? you shouldn't get too cozy with yourself :D
Feb 13 14:18:47 <truffles>	thats the best thing though
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Feb 13 14:20:19 <truffles>	so did he solve it for u?
Feb 13 14:20:28 <mod6>	This year DEF CON 21 will be $180, instead of $200 like last year,...
Feb 13 14:20:37 <mod6>	I wonder if DT will take BTC this year...
Feb 13 14:21:38 <iz>	i hope they have enough forethought to book a convention area large enough for the number of attendies
Feb 13 14:21:54 <mod6>	yeah, it seems to be a problem every year.
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Feb 13 14:22:25 <mod6>	I liked the Alexis park -- the pool and beer was never very far away.
Feb 13 14:22:29 <mod6>	:D
Feb 13 14:22:39 <iz>	yeah, but everything else in vegas was :/
Feb 13 14:22:57 <iz>	except maybe the hard rock
Feb 13 14:22:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.738 = 1.476 BTC [+]
Feb 13 14:23:13 <mod6>	haha. long live The Pink Taco
Feb 13 14:23:17 <iz>	haha
Feb 13 14:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 14:24:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.42222, Best ask: 25.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.07768, Last trade: 25.49990, 24 hour volume: 88534.85294652, 24 hour low: 24.40000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.47354
Feb 13 14:24:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065923 = 2.8485 BTC [+]
Feb 13 14:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 679 @ 0.00065941 = 0.4477 BTC [+]
Feb 13 14:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064594 = 2.7911 BTC [-]
Feb 13 14:26:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35771 @ 0.00064519 = 23.0791 BTC [-]
Feb 13 14:26:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064574 = 5.3596 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 14:27:12 <mod6>	pff so the LAPD just WACO'd that dude huh
Feb 13 14:27:58 <TomServo>	sounds like it
Feb 13 14:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	inb4 not him
Feb 13 14:28:29 <mod6>	oh man would that be a shit storm if it wasn't
Feb 13 14:28:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3399 BTC [-]
Feb 13 14:29:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+]
Feb 13 14:29:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.35 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Feb 13 14:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	random crazy dude who lived there for 15+ years
Feb 13 14:30:54 <mircea_popescu>	suddenly all da polis at his doorstep, like he heard on his ham radio from jesus
Feb 13 14:31:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 68 @ 0.01 = 0.68 BTC [+]
Feb 13 14:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	opens fire, hilarity ensues
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Feb 13 14:31:30 <truffles>	if its not him omg
Feb 13 14:31:37 <TomServo>	lol @ ham radio from jesus
Feb 13 14:31:42 <mod6>	srsly.  what kind of police work is that anyway? where you just start shooting people instead of trying to make a positive ID and apprehend him so he can face the court system.
Feb 13 14:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065908 = 2.8479 BTC [+]
Feb 13 14:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	well actually i lolled at the "cabin caught on fire"
Feb 13 14:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18079 @ 0.00065941 = 11.9215 BTC [+]
Feb 13 14:32:07 <mod6>	the LAPD just started like going buckwild and shooting people
Feb 13 14:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	ya, im sure it was bad wiring
Feb 13 14:32:16 <mod6>	lol yeah
Feb 13 14:32:33 <truffles>	theyre saying its cuz of the type of tear gas
Feb 13 14:32:36 <TomServo>	well yeah - that shit wasn't going to trial, might as well go in guns a blazin'
Feb 13 14:33:08 <mod6>	yeah, I understand a guy barricaded... but what about that blue truck that they mag dumped on lol
Feb 13 14:33:35 <truffles>	2 asian lades = size of 1 big black guy
Feb 13 14:33:40 <truffles>	ladies
Feb 13 14:34:16 <truffles>	had bad is their aim if 50 bullets doesnt kill either
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Feb 13 14:36:09 <mod6>	maybe Toyota has a Type IV package.
Feb 13 14:37:24 <mod6>	I think they used incendiary tear gas canisters at Waco.  This felt just like it.
Feb 13 14:38:42 <truffles>	not many ppl know about waco
Feb 13 14:39:53 <mod6>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
Feb 13 14:39:59 <mod6>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
Feb 13 14:39:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.725 = 10.875 BTC [-]
Feb 13 14:40:03 <truffles>	im aware
Feb 13 14:40:23 <truffles>	its like swept under the rug kind of thing
Feb 13 14:40:55 <mod6>	wat
Feb 13 14:41:14 <mod6>	it was not swept under anything.  it was all over the news for like ever.
Feb 13 14:41:33 <truffles>	then how come ppl arent outraged !
Feb 13 14:41:43 <mod6>	well they were, and they executed McVeigh
Feb 13 14:42:44 <mod6>	I guess it was like 18 years ago o_0
Feb 13 14:42:49 <mod6>	wtf
Feb 13 14:42:58 <truffles>	yea way before twitter and facebook
Feb 13 14:43:12 <mod6>	lol
Feb 13 14:43:20 <mod6>	damn near before Win95
Feb 13 14:43:45 <truffles>	i remember when i wanted to learn programming haha
Feb 13 14:43:49 <mod6>	and Waco was like during AOL 2.0
Feb 13 14:44:02 <iz>	did you hear the audio of the cops saying "burn it down"?
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Feb 13 14:44:09 <truffles>	yea
Feb 13 14:44:25 <mod6>	iz: yeah. that will come back to haunt them methinks...
Feb 13 14:44:25 <truffles>	saw clip on cnn where they were trying to justify that too
Feb 13 14:44:27 <iz>	http://youtu.be/cNk-bV40XMc?t=17s
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Feb 13 14:44:54 <truffles>	oh no he meant to burn down the tree
Feb 13 14:46:53 <truffles>	only 19 kids died in waco
Feb 13 14:47:22 <truffles>	no tears from Clinton
Feb 13 14:47:49 <mod6>	haha, then the lady is like "Police officers undersandibly upset..."
Feb 13 14:48:02 <mod6>	yeah, upset alright. "BURN THE MOTHERFUCKER"
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Feb 13 14:53:18 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what the media's angle is.
Feb 13 14:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	i know if i were a journalist i'd rag on the police till i dropped
Feb 13 14:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	why are they trying to be all nice ? it's not paying anything.
Feb 13 14:53:46 <truffles>	i think they want more police drones to get it done
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Feb 13 14:54:21 <truffles>	would be interesting if lots of cops lost their jobs to drones
Feb 13 14:54:30 <truffles>	who will protest for them hmmm
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Feb 13 14:58:45 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: I would guess trying to avoid a repeat LA riot.
Feb 13 14:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	why "?
Feb 13 14:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	if you cause one you get more ratings.
Feb 13 14:59:21 <truffles>	disagree they seem to be pushingits all about race
Feb 13 14:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	does the police pay you if you prevent one ?
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Feb 13 15:01:13 <truffles>	theyre so bad at doing news thats why so many alternatives on the internet
Feb 13 15:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065933 = 2.849 BTC [-]
Feb 13 15:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 379 @ 0.00065941 = 0.2499 BTC [+]
Feb 13 15:01:29 <truffles>	hi lyspooner
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Feb 13 15:04:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3479 @ 0.00065941 = 2.2941 BTC [+]
Feb 13 15:04:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065925 = 2.8486 BTC [-]
Feb 13 15:07:10 <iz>	mircea_popescu: because the police allow them to be on the scene
Feb 13 15:07:30 <iz>	if they don't cooperate, they get kicked off the scene, and competeing reporters that kiss more ass get the exclusive
Feb 13 15:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	o yeah,
Feb 13 15:07:36 <mircea_popescu>	that'll go great, disallow them. how does that go ?
Feb 13 15:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	ABC is now banned from scene ?
Feb 13 15:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	fine. abc spends the next full week runningspecials about la police corruption
Feb 13 15:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	asks people to call in with their stories
Feb 13 15:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	airs them back to back.
Feb 13 15:08:02 <iz>	but there WAS press there
Feb 13 15:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	guess what ?
Feb 13 15:08:08 <iz>	NBC and FOX were all over it
Feb 13 15:08:24 <iz>	ABC was just slow to get there and are being whiners
Feb 13 15:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	i was just saying, random venue gets banned.
Feb 13 15:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	who can afford this ?
Feb 13 15:08:34 <iz>	it's just one reporter there
Feb 13 15:08:43 <iz>	police always tell them to fuck off and they did
Feb 13 15:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	i haven't been following the story at all, just picked a random letter sequence
Feb 13 15:08:48 <iz>	they told the press to stop recording
Feb 13 15:08:49 <mircea_popescu>	which turns out to be an actual outlet o.o
Feb 13 15:08:50 <iz>	and to stop tweeting
Feb 13 15:09:04 <iz>	they actually told the press to stop tweeting about it
Feb 13 15:09:13 <truffles>	news arent independent
Feb 13 15:09:20 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 13 15:09:21 <gribble>	25.47
Feb 13 15:09:22 <truffles>	they have dubious owners
Feb 13 15:10:08 <jurov>	why does gribble round the vwap?
Feb 13 15:11:59 <truffles>	public opininon about the media and the cops are going to be at their lowest now
Feb 13 15:12:16 <jurov>	hm, looks like it uses "display_short" from mtgox ticker
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Feb 13 15:12:46 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, do you use rounded or full vwap for options?
Feb 13 15:13:50 <jurov>	it's precisely 25.47181 now, not 25.47
Feb 13 15:14:15 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 13 15:14:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.62101, Best ask: 25.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07899, Last trade: 25.70000, 24 hour volume: 88419.83007404, 24 hour low: 24.40000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.47214
Feb 13 15:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	the value used is here http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/
Feb 13 15:15:24 <jurov>	they average all markets?
Feb 13 15:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Feb 13 15:17:10 <jurov>	hm, must redo it then
Feb 13 15:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Feb 13 15:18:07 <jurov>	users want understandable computation to be done automatically on exercise page... and one complained it isn't correct
Feb 13 15:18:17 <jurov>	now i know why, used wrong ticker
Feb 13 15:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.bitcoinasic.net/ awww they got pulled off the interwebs
Feb 13 15:19:24 <mircea_popescu>	Where is the "specialized devision of a huge corporate electronics manufacturer in Canada" !!!
Feb 13 15:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	jurov there's a json there too
Feb 13 15:20:09 <jurov>	yes, i see. but there's also said "query only once per 15 minutes". quite lame.
Feb 13 15:20:25 <jurov>	must set up caching etc.
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Feb 13 15:27:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1287 @ 0.00064519 = 0.8304 BTC [-]
Feb 13 15:27:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064387 = 2.7822 BTC [-]
Feb 13 15:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17294 @ 0.00064386 = 11.1349 BTC [-]
Feb 13 15:27:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25714 @ 0.00064378 = 16.5542 BTC [-]
Feb 13 15:27:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11733 @ 0.000642 = 7.5326 BTC [-]
Feb 13 15:27:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00064299 = 5.4654 BTC [+]
Feb 13 15:29:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00064677 = 5.1418 BTC [+]
Feb 13 15:32:54 <mjr_>	anyone know how to get a google doc to reload a script?
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Feb 13 15:33:05 <mjr_>	trying to make it automatically get the freshest mt. gox price
Feb 13 15:33:36 <Bugpowder>	it will do it every hour or so
Feb 13 15:33:49 <Bugpowder>	there is some code you can use to make it do it faster, but it didn't work for me
Feb 13 15:33:50 <Bugpowder>	google it
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Feb 13 15:40:18 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 13 15:40:19 <mjr_>	cool
Feb 13 15:40:20 <mjr_>	thanks
Feb 13 15:40:35 <mjr_>	yeah, i keep changing the value, but it doesn't rerun the script
Feb 13 15:40:43 <mjr_>	even though i can rerun it from the script editor
Feb 13 15:42:13 <mjr_>	also, is there a way to poll mpex for the last price of a given symbol? or bidding price
Feb 13 15:42:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0095 = 0.95 BTC [-]
Feb 13 15:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	you can get either the book or the prices json, its in the faq
Feb 13 15:45:04 <truffles>	read the fine print ppl
Feb 13 15:47:16 <mjr_>	i know
Feb 13 15:47:34 <mjr_>	but i just wanted one single price, do i have to find that subobject? or can you query for it directly?
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Feb 13 15:48:36 <jurov>	no you have to extract it from json
Feb 13 15:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	mpex is too good to take user input
Feb 13 15:49:50 <jurov>	mjr_ i think something like live.coinbr.com/last?mpsic=MPSIC can be added easily
Feb 13 15:50:10 <mjr_>	lol, i do like it
Feb 13 15:50:16 <mjr_>	and thanks jurov, that would be awesome
Feb 13 15:50:46 <mjr_>	It would be nice to have an autoupdating spreadsheet that lists total positions and relative gain
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Feb 13 15:54:54 <mjr_>	also, on an interesting note, depending on how i value my options, i am either -$0.17 or +$3.16
Feb 13 15:55:56 <mjr_>	or +$1.44
Feb 13 15:56:48 <mjr_>	respectively that is cost of bitcoins at present exchange, cost of bitcoins at my conversion cost, or cost of bitcoins at time of option purchase
Feb 13 15:57:29 <mjr_>	so as you can see, it is not trivial which number i use, and i still cannot figure out which is the correct one to use. I think at the end of the day it is really just my choice, but I am curious how ForEx guys do it
Feb 13 15:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065196 = 2.8171 BTC [+]
Feb 13 15:58:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12989 @ 0.00065223 = 8.4718 BTC [+]
Feb 13 15:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	odds are there's no "correct" one
Feb 13 15:59:11 <mircea_popescu>	you have to decide what you are tryng to do
Feb 13 16:01:19 <mjr_>	show the most impressive results
Feb 13 16:01:28 <mjr_>	without cheating
Feb 13 16:03:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.725 = 7.25 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 16:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5 @ 0.00064718 = 0.0032 BTC [-]
Feb 13 16:08:07 <jurov>	mjr_ done: http://live.coinbr.com/last?mpsic=S.MPOE
Feb 13 16:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00064717 = 0.3236 BTC [-]
Feb 13 16:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00064229 = 3.5326 BTC [-]
Feb 13 16:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064228 = 2.7753 BTC [-]
Feb 13 16:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.0006418 = 7.7337 BTC [-]
Feb 13 16:08:19 <mjr_>	or similar format for others?
Feb 13 16:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2324 @ 0.00064111 = 1.4899 BTC [-]
Feb 13 16:08:46 <jurov>	what others? just change mpsoc parameter
Feb 13 16:08:55 <mjr_>	yes, that is what i meant
Feb 13 16:09:02 <mjr_>	thanks so much that is awesome
Feb 13 16:09:48 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: mpex key expire, 1 year from 2011 is mar 2012 or do you mean expire in 2 years to expire next month?
Feb 13 16:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	1 year from 2012 march 11 is 2013 march 10th
Feb 13 16:10:46 <jurov>	he already announced he'll replace it on 10th march
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Feb 13 16:11:41 <markedathome>	your mpex-key page says 1 year from March 2011
Feb 13 16:12:20 <markedathome>	which is why I asked
Feb 13 16:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	hum
Feb 13 16:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	link me ?
Feb 13 16:14:30 <markedathome>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/new-mpex-key/         2nd sentence in para  after 94 print 'gpg'
Feb 13 16:17:48 <jurov>	good catch
Feb 13 16:18:18 <markedathome>	I was wondering if gpg had got some new timewarping functionality...
Feb 13 16:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	i fucked up the year
Feb 13 16:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	thanks for that!
Feb 13 16:20:22 <jurov>	or MP is secretly operating since 2011 :P
Feb 13 16:22:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.745 BTC [+]
Feb 13 16:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	well yes, the old mpoe page was born in like august 2011
Feb 13 16:25:14 <mjr_>	ugh having problems with google docs
Feb 13 16:25:28 <mjr_>	won't just give me the subobject
Feb 13 16:30:23 <mjr_>	should i not be able to do this? =ImportData("http://live.coinbr.com/last?mpsic=S.DICE")."last"[2]
Feb 13 16:31:13 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.sdice
Feb 13 16:31:15 <assbot>	Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
Feb 13 16:31:16 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Feb 13 16:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00599414 / 0.00618588 / 0.0063 (34077 shares, 210.80 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00622371 / 0.0065 (2175631 shares, 13,540.51 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.0056034 / 0.0075 (8215991 shares, 46,037.55 BTC)
Feb 13 16:31:18 <Anduck>	stfu assbot
Feb 13 16:31:25 <iz>	lol
Feb 13 16:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006518 = 2.8164 BTC [+]
Feb 13 16:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00065181 = 1.5969 BTC [+]
Feb 13 16:34:45 <kakobrekla>	where was the largest SD mention on some bigger gambling related site
Feb 13 16:34:48 <kakobrekla>	i cant remember
Feb 13 16:35:04 <kakobrekla>	s/largerst/larger
Feb 13 16:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	some blog yeah
Feb 13 16:35:24 <kakobrekla>	lookin for sauce
Feb 13 16:35:42 <TomServo>	I thought it was 'pokerscout' or something to that effect....looking now.
Feb 13 16:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	what if instead of spending money on video cards, motherboards, and a crudely built home depot rack, you spent that money on hydroponic equipment and you mined weed, same as bitcoins except you end up with something that has value
Feb 13 16:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol somethingawful delivers
Feb 13 16:36:46 <truffles>	weed will be legal soon
Feb 13 16:37:00 <mod6>	ya right
Feb 13 16:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065153 = 2.8153 BTC [-]
Feb 13 16:37:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20958 @ 0.00065181 = 13.6606 BTC [+]
Feb 13 16:37:12 <truffles>	tis in WA
Feb 13 16:37:39 <mod6>	obama said 'no' -- they'll figure out a way to jack-boot that also.
Feb 13 16:37:39 <mircea_popescu>	"bitcoin mining seems like a potential first step in a weed grow-op, though. start off with a big bitcoin mining operation, enough to get the cops to search the place looking for weed. then after everyone's had a big laugh over the crazy kid "mining for buttcoins", sell off the computers and immediately start growing weed."
Feb 13 16:37:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0095 BTC [-]
Feb 13 16:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... 500 ways of stubbornly not eating your spinach
Feb 13 16:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	they've decided bitcoin is bad, so now are making brocolli statues out of it
Feb 13 16:38:34 <mjr_>	to me it's like r/atheism ... i want to spend all day talking about something I don't believe in
Feb 13 16:38:52 <mjr_>	and about how much i don't believe it
Feb 13 16:38:55 <truffles>	lol
Feb 13 16:39:06 <iz>	i think there are some SA ppl that were early bitcoin adopters, so there are also a lot of SA posters that are bitter and jealous about that
Feb 13 16:39:12 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 13 16:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	well at least they're preserving some shit the bitcoin forum deleted
Feb 13 16:39:30 <truffles>	maybe those atheist want to convert the religious ppl
Feb 13 16:39:40 <iz>	lol
Feb 13 16:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	which incidentally... who was the monumental retard who alloewd post deletion on btctalk ?
Feb 13 16:39:53 <iz>	evangelising athiests are the WORST
Feb 13 16:40:01 <iz>	way worse than evangelising religious ppl
Feb 13 16:40:09 <truffles>	which is strange
Feb 13 16:40:16 <truffles>	church of atheism
Feb 13 16:40:37 <iz>	the difference is religious ppl at least are cool with the idea that maybe there is more than one possible viewpoint
Feb 13 16:40:49 <TomServo>	kakobrekla: http://www.pokerscout.com/news/weekly-traffic-update.aspx?year=2013&week=7
Feb 13 16:40:58 <truffles>	yep thats why im agnostic
Feb 13 16:41:02 <kakobrekla>	hm
Feb 13 16:41:05 <kakobrekla>	i just found
Feb 13 16:41:06 <kakobrekla>	http://calvinayre.com/2013/02/01/business/why-bitcoin-can-no-longer-be-ignored/
Feb 13 16:41:09 <markedathome>	so what is this about gambling being possibly legalised in new jersey? apparently there  were some subtantial rises in betting  shares in the lst week
Feb 13 16:41:10 <iz>	athiests are just 100% certain they are right all the time
Feb 13 16:41:25 <iz>	yeah, agnostic is the only rational thing really
Feb 13 16:42:05 <truffles>	religion has some weird rituals
Feb 13 16:42:17 <maximian>	Heh, evoorhees wrote that article
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Feb 13 16:42:46 <truffles>	"Why rabbis suck the blood out of a babies penis"
Feb 13 16:43:11 <truffles>	that has bugged me for some time now
Feb 13 16:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	ya it was the calvinaire thing
Feb 13 16:43:20 <mjr_>	absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence
Feb 13 16:44:01 <mjr_>	so yeah, agnostics rule, they just chill and have fun, and don't worship richard dawkins all day, while talking about things they don't believe in
Feb 13 16:44:27 *	iz nods in agreement
Feb 13 16:44:27 <mjr_>	omg, am i talking about atheism that I don't believe in?? what a vicious cycle...
Feb 13 16:44:34 <truffles>	yea any video with that guy in it is worshiped by his ppl
Feb 13 16:44:36 <mjr_>	hhahaha, how meta can we get
Feb 13 16:45:08 <mjr_>	anyway, anyone know how to pull a value from a json object in google docs?
Feb 13 16:45:22 <mjr_>	i did it a week ago, but for some reason, i can't do it again
Feb 13 16:45:30 <truffles>	discussions are always nice im
Feb 13 16:45:33 <truffles>	imo
Feb 13 16:45:37 <mjr_>	i'm using =importData()
Feb 13 16:46:01 <mjr_>	and yes, i like discussions too
Feb 13 16:46:13 <mjr_>	as long as they are not dogmatic...i mean what's the point then right?
Feb 13 16:46:21 <truffles>	yea
Feb 13 16:46:24 <mjr_>	let's just both believe what we choose to believe since we aren't going to listen
Feb 13 16:46:53 <Diablo-D3>	mjr_: Im seriously considering starting the church of satoshi
Feb 13 16:46:58 <mjr_>	NICE
Feb 13 16:47:01 <truffles>	its going to take more than 1 convo to influence though
Feb 13 16:47:05 <mjr_>	yeah true
Feb 13 16:47:16 <Diablo-D3>	mjr_: I already named myself the pope of it as a joke quite a few years ago
Feb 13 16:47:27 <truffles>	church of bitcoin will be more popular
Feb 13 16:47:38 <mjr_>	i picture a cloud atlas future where people worship satoshi and live life according to his precepts while trying to avoid being cannibalized
Feb 13 16:47:58 <truffles>	is that a spoiler
Feb 13 16:48:04 <mjr_>	lol, not really
Feb 13 16:48:16 <mjr_>	they jump around a lot
Feb 13 16:48:33 <mjr_>	and i think it was common knowledge (in the trailer) that they show the future
Feb 13 16:48:54 <truffles>	still havent seen it
Feb 13 16:48:54 <mjr_>	i do recommend it though, it is not the best, but it is pretty great
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Feb 13 16:49:05 <kakobrekla>	http://i.imgur.com/eKgAP6O.jpg
Feb 13 16:49:12 <truffles>	looked watchable
Feb 13 16:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck ?
Feb 13 16:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	is this a line for dogs ?
Feb 13 16:50:55 <truffles>	didnt click
Feb 13 16:51:25 <kakobrekla>	dogs?
Feb 13 16:51:26 <truffles>	"metzitzah b'peh, (alt. mezizah), or oral suction,where the mohel sucks blood from the circumcision wound" or did u mean that?
Feb 13 16:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	recognise person by scent
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Feb 13 16:52:54 <truffles>	putting dogs to work
Feb 13 16:52:56 <truffles>	nice
Feb 13 16:54:10 <iz>	i don't think anything is a spoiler for cloud atlas
Feb 13 16:55:05 <iz>	it's like a 3 hour movie, and after i watched it and the credits started to roll, i felt like i had just watched a 3 hour trailer for a movie called "cloud atlas", which seems really cool and all.. but that i still haven't seen yet
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Feb 13 16:55:43 <truffles>	lol
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Feb 13 16:56:02 <truffles>	im in less haste to watch it now
Feb 13 16:56:59 <mjr_>	yeah, it is not executed perfectly, but i think its themes are powerful
Feb 13 16:57:25 <mjr_>	to be honest, i think some of it even relates to bitcoins...in some ways
Feb 13 16:57:36 <iz>	also, i sort of feel like that movie was like.. part of loni warchowski's transformation into a woman
Feb 13 16:57:38 <mjr_>	though i think i can see parallels to bitcoins in almost anything
Feb 13 16:57:46 <iz>	like with all of the gender bending of roles and stuff
Feb 13 16:57:48 <mjr_>	yeah, i could see that
Feb 13 16:57:51 <mjr_>	very true
Feb 13 16:57:57 <iz>	dressing hugo weaving up like a lady
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Feb 13 16:59:34 <truffles>	 Rabbi Mordechai Friedman promised land uncircumcised male should be executed on the spot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tGTIDi_haig  Is he serious???
Feb 13 16:59:58 <Diablo-D3>	Circumcised males are against the will of God.
Feb 13 17:00:00 <Diablo-D3>	clearly he is wrong
Feb 13 17:00:03 <mjr_>	importData(http://live.coinbr.com/last?mpsic=S.MPOE)["last"][3]
Feb 13 17:00:17 <mjr_>	that should work i think, but it doesn't
Feb 13 17:01:13 <truffles>	im thinking its a spoof or something
Feb 13 17:01:23 <mjr_>	i keep getting parse error
Feb 13 17:02:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.006 = 0.06 BTC [-]
Feb 13 17:04:51 <Lyspooner>	hi truffles
Feb 13 17:05:09 <truffles>	hello
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Feb 13 17:06:27 <truffles>	how does a rabbi get herpes hmm
Feb 13 17:09:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.00067 = 0.0067 BTC [-]
Feb 13 17:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	"I already get enough shit because the general public think the legal adult industry and the illegal adult industry are all the same. I'm not asking for a second helping."
Feb 13 17:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	wait, what ?!
Feb 13 17:10:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.1 BTC [+]
Feb 13 17:10:06 <truffles>	sex slaves ?
Feb 13 17:10:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.7499998 = 5.25 BTC [+]
Feb 13 17:13:07 <truffles>	"Did you hear about the mohel that never charged for circumcisions?
Feb 13 17:13:07 <truffles>	He only took tips."
Feb 13 17:13:11 <truffles>	that was a good 1
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Feb 13 17:14:54 <awkorama>	evening gentlemen
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Feb 13 17:15:17 <iz>	there's another joke like that w/ a punchline of the wallet turning into a suitcase if you rubbed it a little
Feb 13 17:15:36 <truffles>	rubbed it a lil ok
Feb 13 17:16:08 <iz>	like the dude saved foreskins and made leather goods out of them
Feb 13 17:16:33 <truffles>	not good
Feb 13 17:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	"If MP has any dirty laundry such as child sex charges or other things  it will be found by SA. Then MP can be right up there with such luminaries as Bruce Wagner."
Feb 13 17:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, the forum :D
Feb 13 17:18:36 <truffles>	hide the porn
Feb 13 17:19:20 <truffles>	"Many mohels are against having to get parental consent for metzitzah b'peh, arguing that they gargle with Listerine and wash their hands well before the procedure."
Feb 13 17:19:41 <truffles>	listerine didnt get the herpes though
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Feb 13 17:24:07 <truffles>	lyspooner whats going on
Feb 13 17:24:32 <truffles>	he didnt quit bomb this time wierd
Feb 13 17:25:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7499998 = 3 BTC [+]
Feb 13 17:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00598093 = 5.9809 BTC [-]
Feb 13 17:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00598092 = 0.299 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 17:28:18 <awkorama>	I was rubbing my wallet.dat a little and it didn't change to any suitcase.
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Feb 13 17:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0006442 = 1.6749 BTC [-]
Feb 13 17:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064135 = 2.7713 BTC [-]
Feb 13 17:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064126 = 2.7709 BTC [-]
Feb 13 17:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7808 @ 0.00064111 = 5.0058 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 17:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/
Feb 13 17:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	new header :D
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Feb 13 17:55:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3445 @ 0.00064111 = 2.2086 BTC [-]
Feb 13 17:55:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063943 = 2.763 BTC [-]
Feb 13 17:55:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3084 @ 0.00063942 = 1.972 BTC [-]
Feb 13 17:55:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3084 @ 0.00063942 = 1.972 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 17:59:01 <Bugpowder>	3 hours of waiting in the Burning Man ticket queue.
Feb 13 17:59:02 <Bugpowder>	sux
Feb 13 17:59:49 <wao>	lal
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Feb 13 18:02:10 <mircea_popescu>	i've never waited in a queue.
Feb 13 18:02:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00609587 = 0.0305 BTC [+]
Feb 13 18:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	why the fuck would you ?!
Feb 13 18:02:18 <jurov>	hm, looking to the site, do you ask "I understand that I will be required to pay 30 BTC" to be written in chinese/farsi FAQ, too?
Feb 13 18:02:21 <kakobrekla>	> The only Bitcoin service that has never been hacked.
Feb 13 18:02:22 <kakobrekla>	lies.
Feb 13 18:02:25 <pigeons>	;;google youtube les claypool burning man
Feb 13 18:02:26 <gribble>	Hey Are Ya Goin to Burning Man - Claypool / Electric ... - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvoHPGbax_M>; Electric Apricot - Burning Man - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_mWCcKOJnA>; Hey are you going to Burning Man - Live at Festeroo - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkiPRxFztVQ>
Feb 13 18:02:29 <Bugpowder>	online queue
Feb 13 18:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	jurov no, foreigners get off easy
Feb 13 18:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder o thought you were checking on mobile
Feb 13 18:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	foursquare style
Feb 13 18:03:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.00609587 = 0.2743 BTC [+]
Feb 13 18:03:14 <Bugpowder>	nope
Feb 13 18:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ya well! lies & drama back bitcoin
Feb 13 18:03:31 <Bugpowder>	I refreshed the initial page to slow and got in line 1 minute after it opened
Feb 13 18:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 13 18:03:41 <Bugpowder>	now a 3 hour wait
Feb 13 18:03:49 <Bugpowder>	my friend got his in 10 minutes.
Feb 13 18:03:52 <Bugpowder>	fuc
Feb 13 18:03:52 <jurov>	lol it's like... in motorests in austria, there are slovak warnings "to use toilet you have to pay". slovak only.
Feb 13 18:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Feb 13 18:04:10 <mircea_popescu>	slovakistan!!!
Feb 13 18:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	jurov but honestly : it is in the farsi faq
Feb 13 18:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	and the chinese one has a guy doing it anyway
Feb 13 18:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	also http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?173251-Have-you-heard-of-this-new-currency-and-way-of-getting-paid-called-Bitcoins this is kinda funny.
Feb 13 18:06:36 <kakobrekla>	Banned
Feb 13 18:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	what ?!
Feb 13 18:07:50 <kakobrekla>	the author was banned
Feb 13 18:07:52 <kakobrekla>	from the forums
Feb 13 18:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	o yeah
Feb 13 18:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	some bitcoin tard "educating" a buncha strippers about bitcoin
Feb 13 18:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	it ended up something like, random bitcointalk dood walks into a forum populated by 5000 mpoeprs
Feb 13 18:09:53 <jurov>	5000 mpoeprs *wipes monitor*
Feb 13 18:10:07 <mircea_popescu>	damn straight
Feb 13 18:10:54 <mircea_popescu>	but seriously now : somebody should make a bitcoin based webcam programme.
Feb 13 18:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	that industry is currently fucked in the ass by HIRE
Feb 13 18:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	on top of all the other nonsense.
Feb 13 18:14:05 <kakobrekla>	HIRE?
Feb 13 18:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 13 18:14:33 <kakobrekla>	whats that
Feb 13 18:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	the mericans came up with this really retarded idea whereby anyone sending money into the us has to also apply the us laws to their customers
Feb 13 18:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	which is why most non-us banks aren't actually dealing with transfers towards the us anymore
Feb 13 18:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	and to top it all off next year ALL transfers will have to be charged 30% tax
Feb 13 18:15:39 <mircea_popescu>	regardless if they're taxable or not.
Feb 13 18:16:14 <Bugpowder>	wat?
Feb 13 18:16:18 <Bugpowder>	30% wat?
Feb 13 18:16:23 <truffles>	the US seems like a strange country
Feb 13 18:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	30% fuck you fee.
Feb 13 18:16:31 <Bugpowder>	link?
Feb 13 18:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	srsly. if you're an american and have a foreign bank account
Feb 13 18:16:47 <mircea_popescu>	you will be charged on all transfers.
Feb 13 18:16:52 <kakobrekla>	what does this have to to with free trade talkings that i posted about today
Feb 13 18:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.bracewellgiuliani.com/news-publications/updates/hire-act-2010-increases-need-international-tax-compliance
Feb 13 18:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty old shit ?
Feb 13 18:17:12 <truffles>	arent most banks charging fees to have an account
Feb 13 18:17:44 <pigeons>	many countries and banks don't allow american customers
Feb 13 18:18:15 <kakobrekla>	13 February 2013: EU and US free-trade talks launched
Feb 13 18:18:18 <truffles>	"Chase said that on Feb. 8 it will be enrolling new customers in a new Total Checking account and charging them a $12 monthly maintenance fee."
Feb 13 18:18:19 <Bugpowder>	this is only if they don't report who the account owner is
Feb 13 18:18:22 <kakobrekla>	any realation to that'
Feb 13 18:18:36 <Bugpowder>	there is no withholding if they do report it seems
Feb 13 18:18:39 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla not much really.
Feb 13 18:18:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder guess who is going to report ?
Feb 13 18:18:45 <Bugpowder>	just applying pressure to Switz
Feb 13 18:18:54 <mircea_popescu>	nah, by now the incentives just aren't there.
Feb 13 18:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	much cheaper to cut the us loose.
Feb 13 18:19:16 <Bugpowder>	BITCOIN RALLY ON IRC CHAT DISCUSSION
Feb 13 18:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Feb 13 18:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i was pretty certain the cause of the rally is this
Feb 13 18:19:29 <truffles>	who can afford 12 bucks a month though
Feb 13 18:19:34 <mircea_popescu>	some provisions start in march
Feb 13 18:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	people were trying to wait past the halving but not much past march, so... squeeze.
Feb 13 18:20:22 <Bugpowder>	if you can afford the fee, they don't charge you
Feb 13 18:20:30 <truffles>	lol
Feb 13 18:20:34 <Bugpowder>	seriously
Feb 13 18:20:41 <truffles>	didnt they just get bailed out
Feb 13 18:20:43 <Bugpowder>	Platinum...
Feb 13 18:20:43 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Feb 13 18:20:50 <Bugpowder>	Admiral shares
Feb 13 18:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck is paying 30% ?
Feb 13 18:20:58 <Bugpowder>	Vanguard Flagship account
Feb 13 18:21:05 <Bugpowder>	nobody is paying 30%
Feb 13 18:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 13 18:21:10 <Bugpowder>	thye will report
Feb 13 18:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	no they won't.
Feb 13 18:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	they'll jsut shrug and carry on.
Feb 13 18:21:24 <Bugpowder>	or people will have money for offshore
Feb 13 18:21:29 <Bugpowder>	and money for onshore
Feb 13 18:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much
Feb 13 18:21:36 <Bugpowder>	and never the twain shall meet
Feb 13 18:21:42 <Bugpowder>	except via btc
Feb 13 18:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	in the unlikely event there's someone wioth any wealth left physically in the us
Feb 13 18:21:54 <Bugpowder>	jesus bitcoin is amazing
Feb 13 18:21:57 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 13 18:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	which seems rather improbable atm
Feb 13 18:22:02 <Bugpowder>	you are so fucking negative
Feb 13 18:22:16 <truffles>	bankers will be rich
Feb 13 18:22:22 <Bugpowder>	nah
Feb 13 18:22:28 <Bugpowder>	not as rich
Feb 13 18:22:32 <Bugpowder>	but yes
Feb 13 18:22:36 <Bugpowder>	other professions with money
Feb 13 18:22:40 <truffles>	might as well put it in the couch
Feb 13 18:22:50 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 13 18:22:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.00000, Best ask: 25.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 25.00000, 24 hour volume: 82323.14434998, 24 hour low: 24.47998, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.57240
Feb 13 18:23:05 <Bugpowder>	This is getting serious
Feb 13 18:23:21 <Bugpowder>	anybody want to buy some calls?
Feb 13 18:23:23 <mircea_popescu>	things are getting serious...
Feb 13 18:23:45 <truffles>	when i came here it was around 20 to 21..
Feb 13 18:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IRGenlpf-E
Feb 13 18:24:02 <pigeons>	and you haven't stopped talking since
Feb 13 18:24:12 <truffles>	im waiting on the crash
Feb 13 18:24:14 <Bugpowder>	that was last week
Feb 13 18:24:17 <truffles>	so i can get 100 btc
Feb 13 18:25:01 <truffles>	what goes up..
Feb 13 18:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	what ?!
Feb 13 18:25:13 <truffles>	must come down
Feb 13 18:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	hm, is my ignore filtering half the chat again ?
Feb 13 18:25:41 <Bugpowder>	truffles
Feb 13 18:25:55 <truffles>	mp has me on ignore no way
Feb 13 18:26:02 <kakobrekla>	told ya.
Feb 13 18:26:03 <truffles>	what a douche
Feb 13 18:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny how that works, i add names, the killed lines counter jumps to hundreds a day, then a  few weeks later it's back to 0
Feb 13 18:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	then...
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Feb 13 18:27:19 <kakobrekla>	you have a killed lines counter? :D
Feb 13 18:27:28 <kakobrekla>	damn.
Feb 13 18:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	i have ignore stats ! im from like... the future.
Feb 13 18:28:30 <kakobrekla>	does it say on the end of report "you are very ignorant" :D
Feb 13 18:29:09 <truffles>	that is a silly concept
Feb 13 18:29:40 <truffles>	not a problem i have since i dont ignore anyone
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Feb 13 18:31:00 <jurov>	once btcusd goes to 133 coinbr acct will cost 12 bucks/month too, then :P
Feb 13 18:31:26 <truffles>	fees rape never ends
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Feb 13 18:32:07 <Bugpowder>	I dunno about this dump
Feb 13 18:32:09 <Bugpowder>	seems reall
Feb 13 18:32:15 <Bugpowder>	feels toppy
Feb 13 18:32:38 <Bugpowder>	its persistent
Feb 13 18:32:47 <Bugpowder>	lots of overhead resistance
Feb 13 18:33:25 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/221/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-20-24-and/
Feb 13 18:33:28 <kakobrekla>	money for grabs if so
Feb 13 18:34:09 <jurov>	fuck bitbet... i made few small bets slightly drunk
Feb 13 18:34:15 <jurov>	using coinbr wallet
Feb 13 18:34:33 <truffles>	isnt this how the mortgage back securities spiraled hmm
Feb 13 18:34:35 <jurov>	now i realized i have to check every deposit whether it isn't something from bitbet
Feb 13 18:34:42 <kakobrekla>	loool
Feb 13 18:34:55 <kakobrekla>	just use a different output addy
Feb 13 18:35:09 <jurov>	oh yea
Feb 13 18:36:07 <jurov>	and add alcohol tester to coinbr admin interface
Feb 13 18:36:31 <kakobrekla>	you will trick yourself using different drugs.
Feb 13 18:36:35 <kakobrekla>	no good.
Feb 13 18:37:58 <kakobrekla>	there we go, dumping.
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Feb 13 18:38:49 <kakobrekla>	24.6
Feb 13 18:38:54 <kakobrekla>	24.5
Feb 13 18:39:18 <kakobrekla>	24.4
Feb 13 18:39:24 <pizzaman1337>	good, I want the price to go down. Need to buy more coings.
Feb 13 18:39:26 <pizzaman1337>	coins*
Feb 13 18:39:57 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Feb 13 18:39:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.49753, Best ask: 24.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00247, Last trade: 24.50000, 24 hour volume: 86614.45783048, 24 hour low: 24.48752, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.53151
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Feb 13 18:40:48 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
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Feb 13 18:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 948 @ 0.06641709 = 62.9634 BTC
Feb 13 18:45:52 <mircea_popescu>	lmao jurov
Feb 13 18:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 18:46:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.50000, Best ask: 24.63661, Bid-ask spread: 0.13661, Last trade: 24.63661, 24 hour volume: 87831.55624440, 24 hour low: 24.48752, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.51202
Feb 13 18:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 13 18:46:08 <gribble>	1 BTC = 24.63661 U.S. dollars = 18.2859126 Euros
Feb 13 18:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	well... i sold my 200 at 17 so a way to go.
Feb 13 18:46:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 52 @ 0.06641709 = 3.4537 BTC
Feb 13 18:46:51 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
Feb 13 18:46:55 <kakobrekla>	bitstamp stuck at 25 again
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Feb 13 18:47:09 <mircea_popescu>	that poor guy with the short puts
Feb 13 18:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	he's getting massacred again
Feb 13 18:47:33 <Namworld>	What?
Feb 13 18:48:11 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla
Feb 13 18:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 745 @ 0.21602472 = 160.9384 BTC [-]
Feb 13 18:53:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 745 @ 0.25537348 = 190.2532 BTC [+]
Feb 13 18:53:34 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld bitcoin is dropping
Feb 13 18:53:46 *	kakobrekla has changed the topic to: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://btct.co || https://bitfunder.com || https://icbit.se || https://cryptostocks.com || https://therocktrading.com || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || biased msg: http://bit4x.com
Feb 13 18:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 744 @ 0.29472225 = 219.2734 BTC [+]
Feb 13 18:53:52 *	kakobrekla removes channel operator status from kakobrekla
Feb 13 18:54:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 735 @ 0.33407101 = 245.5422 BTC [-]
Feb 13 18:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 4 @ 0.37341978 = 1.4937 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 18:56:11 <Namworld>	Someone is cashing in his calls or something.
Feb 13 18:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.10775591 = 107.7559 BTC
Feb 13 18:57:26 <Namworld>	It just dropped a bit.
Feb 13 18:57:32 <kakobrekla>	a tad.
Feb 13 18:57:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.08563291 = 85.6329 BTC
Feb 13 18:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.06697417 = 66.9742 BTC [+]
Feb 13 18:58:09 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Feb 13 18:58:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.29000, Best ask: 24.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 24.30000, 24 hour volume: 89583.97608075, 24 hour low: 24.23140, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.48663
Feb 13 18:58:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 1000 @ 0.13408587 = 134.0859 BTC [-]
Feb 13 18:59:08 <pizzaman1337>	cashing in on puts?
Feb 13 18:59:13 <Bugpowder>	nope
Feb 13 18:59:14 <Bugpowder>	buying
Feb 13 18:59:40 <pizzaman1337>	good luck
Feb 13 19:01:50 <Bugpowder>	GOT 2 BURNING MAN TIX
Feb 13 19:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063952 = 2.7634 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:01:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11916 @ 0.00063942 = 7.6193 BTC [-]
Feb 13 19:01:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4366 @ 0.00063878 = 2.7889 BTC [-]
Feb 13 19:01:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 100 @ 0.06707301 = 6.7073 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 900 @ 0.06707301 = 60.3657 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:02:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.08576716 = 85.7672 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 19:02:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.10793223 = 107.9322 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:03:22 <Bugpowder>	battle for the puts
Feb 13 19:03:23 <kakobrekla>	a dollar difference still stamp vs gox
Feb 13 19:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	teh whoa
Feb 13 19:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.48629718 = 486.2972 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:04:55 <Bugpowder>	LOL
Feb 13 19:04:57 <Bugpowder>	FUCKING LOSER
Feb 13 19:05:09 <Bugpowder>	close that short
Feb 13 19:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	seems you've totally spooked everyone Bugpowder
Feb 13 19:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	he;'s only down 20% on this round.
Feb 13 19:06:01 <Bugpowder>	DIVE DIVE DIVE
Feb 13 19:07:41 <truffles>	is there like some official area where i can just buy market price bitcoin?
Feb 13 19:07:42 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 13 19:07:43 <kakobrekla>	is not bad
Feb 13 19:08:11 <pigeons>	"official"
Feb 13 19:08:37 <truffles>	like can i go into s.dice and get 100 btc at market price right now?
Feb 13 19:08:51 <pigeons>	what the hell are you talking about
Feb 13 19:09:16 <BitHub>	lol s.dice?
Feb 13 19:09:39 <pigeons>	but yeah market price is the price you can get them at, but no you can't get bitcoins from s.dice except dividend day or winning bets
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Feb 13 19:10:05 <truffles>	ok
Feb 13 19:10:11 <truffles>	any other place?
Feb 13 19:10:18 <kakobrekla>	yeah theres an official place that sells 25$ btcs
Feb 13 19:10:24 <pigeons>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins
Feb 13 19:10:43 <truffles>	k thx
Feb 13 19:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla luke ?
Feb 13 19:10:51 <kakobrekla>	aha
Feb 13 19:10:53 <kakobrekla>	;)
Feb 13 19:11:26 <kakobrekla>	23.8 btw
Feb 13 19:11:31 <truffles>	" It is recommended that you obtain the real-world identity of the operator and ensure that sufficient recourse is available." hmmm
Feb 13 19:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.06763205 = 67.6321 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:11:46 <truffles>	guess the real world answer is no
Feb 13 19:11:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.0864789 = 86.4789 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:11:52 <Bugpowder>	that fucker got the 230s again
Feb 13 19:11:56 <pigeons>	what the hell are you talking about
Feb 13 19:12:00 <Bugpowder>	Ok I have enough puts
Feb 13 19:12:07 <kakobrekla>	im guessing this weeked could be a good time to stock up if needed
Feb 13 19:12:12 <kakobrekla>	weekend
Feb 13 19:12:16 <pigeons>	im gonna ignpore ore you too truffles if you dont stat making sense
Feb 13 19:12:27 <truffles>	how is it not
Feb 13 19:12:27 <Bugpowder>	This will either make the ponzi plot truly explode.... or make me cry
Feb 13 19:12:36 <truffles>	like ppl do exchanges all the time
Feb 13 19:12:46 <truffles>	cash for bitcoins
Feb 13 19:12:59 <Bugpowder>	are you an SEC bitcoin narc?
Feb 13 19:13:13 <truffles>	huh
Feb 13 19:13:21 <pigeons>	i think he's just a retard
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Feb 13 19:13:33 <truffles>	it just occured to me that i didnt have a place to purchase when it got to my ideal price
Feb 13 19:14:00 <Namworld>	Hey, I want some puts too
Feb 13 19:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.48869324 = 488.6932 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:14:09 <Bugpowder>	oh wow
Feb 13 19:14:17 <pigeons>	well now you have 50 places from that link
Feb 13 19:14:20 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 13 19:14:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.61000, Best ask: 23.87675, Bid-ask spread: 0.26675, Last trade: 23.61000, 24 hour volume: 94921.36763921, 24 hour low: 23.61000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.39773
Feb 13 19:14:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.349 = 1.745 BTC [-]
Feb 13 19:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	aha. teh drop huh.
Feb 13 19:14:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 34 @ 0.3499 = 11.8966 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:14:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 19:14:35 <Bugpowder>	dude that guy got fucked two times
Feb 13 19:14:36 <truffles>	ya well the wiki warning seemed to say dont trust any of em
Feb 13 19:14:50 <Bugpowder>	He is the top caller
Feb 13 19:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly.
Feb 13 19:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's not going back up for now.
Feb 13 19:15:20 <Namworld>	Some guy overbought on calls/oversold puts?
Feb 13 19:15:52 <Namworld>	like last month?
Feb 13 19:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	some whale shorted like i dunno, 20, 30k worth of deep puts last exercise
Feb 13 19:16:01 <Bugpowder>	he bought 30,000 calls at the top last time
Feb 13 19:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	then covered for like -5k
Feb 13 19:16:10 <Bugpowder>	oh
Feb 13 19:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	then like... yesterday ? sold 5k
Feb 13 19:16:10 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 13 19:16:13 <Bugpowder>	it was shorting puts
Feb 13 19:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	and now is covering them
Feb 13 19:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder someone was buying calls too
Feb 13 19:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	but i think it was someone else
Feb 13 19:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	it's ridiculous by now, within 24 hours he's screwed.
Feb 13 19:18:22 <Bugpowder>	should be good for S.MPOE
Feb 13 19:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile back at the pussyranch, http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?181800-Bitcoin-Giveaway
Feb 13 19:18:57 <kakobrekla>	23.1
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Feb 13 19:20:44 <truffles>	guess by tomorrow i can get some coins
Feb 13 19:20:57 <truffles>	wont drop 10 in a  day or will it
Feb 13 19:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12784 @ 0.00063878 = 8.1662 BTC [-]
Feb 13 19:21:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3516 @ 0.00063701 = 2.2397 BTC [-]
Feb 13 19:21:10 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: PR should also mention that 1BTC is over $20 USD
Feb 13 19:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Feb 13 19:21:53 <maximian>	cuz why would thy bother? they probably don't realize that bit coins are worth anything
Feb 13 19:21:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.06977665 = 69.7767 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 19:22:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.06000, Best ask: 23.10500, Bid-ask spread: 0.04500, Last trade: 23.10500, 24 hour volume: 100067.34572136, 24 hour low: 23.06000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.28815
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Feb 13 19:22:34 <pizzaman1337>	awesome, keep dropping...
Feb 13 19:23:59 <kakobrekla>	where is your bid at pizza? :)
Feb 13 19:24:14 <pizzaman1337>	I have no bid :( ACH is slow...
Feb 13 19:24:16 <Namworld>	so, another good month for S.MPOE in sight, mircea?
Feb 13 19:24:29 <Namworld>	with all the calls that were bought =P
Feb 13 19:25:18 <swhitt>	;;ticker
Feb 13 19:25:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.03655, Best ask: 23.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06345, Last trade: 23.03655, 24 hour volume: 100563.10296792, 24 hour low: 23.03655, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.27701
Feb 13 19:25:37 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 13 19:25:39 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Feb 13 19:25:49 <swhitt>	whoa
Feb 13 19:25:54 <swhitt>	that's a lopsided market
Feb 13 19:26:38 <pizzaman1337>	this is cool to watch
Feb 13 19:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld prolly
Feb 13 19:27:21 <truffles>	no fun if i we cant hear the panicf
Feb 13 19:27:23 <BitHub>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets
Feb 13 19:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	course you never know.
Feb 13 19:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 19:27:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.02002, Best ask: 23.10001, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 23.02002, 24 hour volume: 101056.49539453, 24 hour low: 23.02002, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.26533
Feb 13 19:27:33 <Namworld>	yeah, we'll see about it.
Feb 13 19:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	things can change in half hour.
Feb 13 19:28:06 <truffles>	yep it can reach 19 by then
Feb 13 19:28:40 <kakobrekla>	ok for real truffles, start in #bitcoin-otc or smth
Feb 13 19:28:54 <truffles>	start meaning
Feb 13 19:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00063701 = 2.4843 BTC [-]
Feb 13 19:29:02 <kakobrekla>	start meaning start.
Feb 13 19:29:12 <truffles>	too many ppl
Feb 13 19:29:13 <Namworld>	Yeah, but the growth was a bit unrealistic.
Feb 13 19:29:38 <Namworld>	there was no one selling, no ask depth. Price increasing very fast.
Feb 13 19:29:56 <truffles>	ppl in here prob not gonna read what random person says all the time..
Feb 13 19:31:25 <pigeons>	right, because we're going to put you on ignore
Feb 13 19:31:50 <truffles>	if u want yea
Feb 13 19:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 19:32:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.04000, Best ask: 23.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16000, Last trade: 23.20000, 24 hour volume: 106681.62083572, 24 hour low: 22.02100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.10876
Feb 13 19:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	stopped for now huh
Feb 13 19:32:52 <kakobrekla>	lunch break.
Feb 13 19:34:07 <truffles>	maybe ppl in the multi rooms wont care silly me
Feb 13 19:34:24 <truffles>	many ppl rooms*
Feb 13 19:34:36 <kakobrekla>	what?
Feb 13 19:35:03 <Namworld>	No, it's near 22 USD/BTC now
Feb 13 19:35:10 <Namworld>	MtGox is lagging bad
Feb 13 19:35:25 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Feb 13 19:35:33 <Namworld>	lol, that chart is FUNNY
Feb 13 19:35:45 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Feb 13 19:35:46 <gribble>	249.494233 seconds
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Feb 13 19:39:03 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Feb 13 19:39:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.02100, Best ask: 23.05000, Bid-ask spread: 1.02900, Last trade: 23.05000, 24 hour volume: 107968.90102643, 24 hour low: 22.02100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.07438
Feb 13 19:39:11 <swhitt>	whoa
Feb 13 19:39:11 <pizzaman1337>	$1 spread?...
Feb 13 19:39:28 <kakobrekla>	:>
Feb 13 19:41:50 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 13 19:41:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.55933, Best ask: 22.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24067, Last trade: 23.05000, 24 hour volume: 109588.67124306, 24 hour low: 22.01000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.03072
Feb 13 19:41:56 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 13 19:41:56 <gribble>	1 BTC = 23.05000 U.S. dollars = 17.1082907 Euros
Feb 13 19:42:30 <pizzaman1337>	last is 25 cents higher than best ask though
Feb 13 19:43:05 <kakobrekla>	ya no problem with that
Feb 13 19:44:06 <kakobrekla>	soh, will it break 20
Feb 13 19:44:11 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Feb 13 19:44:12 <gribble>	312.221853 seconds
Feb 13 19:44:24 <pizzaman1337>	5 min lag...?
Feb 13 19:44:38 <kakobrekla>	they suck yea
Feb 13 19:44:51 <kakobrekla>	we might be at 50$ for all we know by now
Feb 13 19:45:03 <pizzaman1337>	it could be in their interest for more lag though - more panic, more selling, more transaction fees, more profit..
Feb 13 19:45:25 <kakobrekla>	i could be just php.
Feb 13 19:45:29 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 13 19:47:23 <Namworld>	We could be at 1 or at 50, yeah
Feb 13 19:47:28 <Namworld>	too much lag
Feb 13 19:47:39 <kakobrekla>	i hope its 1.
Feb 13 19:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 19:49:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.52201, Best ask: 22.79700, Bid-ask spread: 0.27499, Last trade: 22.79700, 24 hour volume: 111499.86991286, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.97243
Feb 13 19:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	teh wow.
Feb 13 19:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	so thisis the great unwind.
Feb 13 19:53:13 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Feb 13 19:53:14 <gribble>	496.211258 seconds
Feb 13 19:53:20 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 13 19:53:24 <kakobrekla>	getting even wrose
Feb 13 19:53:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 265 @ 0.07546687 = 19.9987 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:53:41 <kakobrekla>	i tell you
Feb 13 19:53:50 <kakobrekla>	their bad code is fuckin bitcoin stability
Feb 13 19:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1224 @ 0.00063701 = 0.7797 BTC [-]
Feb 13 19:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34276 @ 0.00063696 = 21.8324 BTC [-]
Feb 13 19:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 19:55:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.50000, Best ask: 22.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 22.65000, 24 hour volume: 114786.56433186, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.89309
Feb 13 19:55:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.51921463 = 519.2146 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:56:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064464 = 2.7855 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10829 @ 0.00064499 = 6.9846 BTC [+]
Feb 13 19:57:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2594 @ 0.00067 = 1.738 BTC [-]
Feb 13 20:01:29 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 13 20:01:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.78000, Best ask: 22.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 22.78000, 24 hour volume: 115402.35989204, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.87805
Feb 13 20:01:38 <kakobrekla>	what is this dog?
Feb 13 20:03:10 <pizzaman1337>	seems like it stopped falling
Feb 13 20:03:25 <kakobrekla>	or gox capped out
Feb 13 20:03:28 <kakobrekla>	we dont know really.
Feb 13 20:03:30 <kakobrekla>	:>
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Feb 13 20:03:35 <pizzaman1337>	the asks are soo thin..
Feb 13 20:03:48 <kakobrekla>	yea
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Feb 13 20:06:54 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Feb 13 20:06:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.04288, Best ask: 23.08065, Bid-ask spread: 0.03777, Last trade: 23.08065, 24 hour volume: 117425.35972100, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.84136
Feb 13 20:07:18 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Feb 13 20:07:19 <gribble>	45.297523 seconds
Feb 13 20:07:39 <pizzaman1337>	seems like now might not be a bad time to buy
Feb 13 20:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 20:08:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.33000, Best ask: 23.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.16800, Last trade: 23.49800, 24 hour volume: 117968.26192446, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.83143
Feb 13 20:09:27 <Namworld>	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
Feb 13 20:09:41 <Namworld>	Some slight bounce going on.
Feb 13 20:09:48 <Namworld>	We reached like 21.7
Feb 13 20:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	crazy times
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Feb 13 20:11:53 <DeadWeasel>	i'm sorry, did someone just take a 35k dump?
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Feb 13 20:16:53 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Feb 13 20:16:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.40000, Best ask: 24.74000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 121630.16790847, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80265
Feb 13 20:16:58 <pizzaman1337>	well, that was fast
Feb 13 20:17:12 <maximian>	impressive recovery
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Feb 13 20:19:26 <broomkorn>	dump&pump
Feb 13 20:19:44 <DeadWeasel>	no kiddin
Feb 13 20:19:58 <DeadWeasel>	that was what, 35k btc?
Feb 13 20:20:20 <Namworld>	Recovery? I call it a bounce
Feb 13 20:20:26 <Namworld>	no market depth
Feb 13 20:20:28 <Bowjob>	whats the difference
Feb 13 20:20:30 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 13 20:20:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.91954, Best ask: 24.94948, Bid-ask spread: 0.02994, Last trade: 24.91954, 24 hour volume: 122926.85310540, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80555
Feb 13 20:20:54 <broomkorn>	jan 24th was different
Feb 13 20:21:03 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Feb 13 20:21:10 <Namworld>	There's a LOT of asks now
Feb 13 20:21:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063706 = 2.7527 BTC [-]
Feb 13 20:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00063696 = 3.2988 BTC [-]
Feb 13 20:21:41 <Namworld>	and no market depth. Will crash right back. Price is unstable and should now correct, hopefully.
Feb 13 20:21:55 <Namworld>	I'd prefer stable BTC prices
Feb 13 20:23:02 <broomkorn>	pretty sure the liquidity will prevent that
Feb 13 20:23:22 <truffles>	almost 25 again boo
Feb 13 20:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 20:26:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.40000, Best ask: 24.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 123213.42485046, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80525
Feb 13 20:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	no actually, this is it.
Feb 13 20:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	price is now 24.5ish. the end.
Feb 13 20:28:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.53072917 = 530.7292 BTC [+]
Feb 13 20:28:35 <DeadWeasel>	wtf, coinbase lowered their sell limit from 1K to 300
Feb 13 20:28:40 <DeadWeasel>	w/out a notification.
Feb 13 20:29:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 70 @ 0.00609588 = 0.4267 BTC [+]
Feb 13 20:29:57 <Namworld>	Price went to 25.5 like 10 minutes ago and now back down
Feb 13 20:30:13 <Namworld>	It ain't down yet
Feb 13 20:30:14 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Feb 13 20:30:24 <Namworld>	Not until that huge gap disappear ^
Feb 13 20:31:33 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Feb 13 20:31:35 <Bowjob>	looks like we can hit 21 dollars any minute
Feb 13 20:31:36 <gribble>	Time since last block: 18 minutes and 13 seconds
Feb 13 20:31:43 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Feb 13 20:31:46 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221055 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 704 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 1 hour, 39 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3478478.41739 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.19802
Feb 13 20:31:59 <Namworld>	Now prices are unstable and all it would take is some larger holding seeing this, panicking and selling 20k at market price to send it all crashing for good.
Feb 13 20:32:12 <Bowjob>	2 dollar coins please
Feb 13 20:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064238 = 2.7757 BTC [+]
Feb 13 20:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10745 @ 0.00064256 = 6.9043 BTC [+]
Feb 13 20:32:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00064499 = 1.1745 BTC [+]
Feb 13 20:32:23 <Namworld>	nah... that won't happen again...
Feb 13 20:32:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2889 @ 0.00064701 = 1.8692 BTC [+]
Feb 13 20:32:35 <Bowjob>	fine. 2.1 coins please
Feb 13 20:32:37 <Namworld>	But I value BTC maybe 16-18 USD right now.
Feb 13 20:34:24 <Bowjob>	if we hit 2 dollars again im getting an mpex
Feb 13 20:34:26 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 13 20:34:33 <aiball>	Namworld are you selling at $17?
Feb 13 20:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 20:39:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.39917, Best ask: 24.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00083, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 126560.10139199, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80221
Feb 13 20:39:52 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld nah. it's done.
Feb 13 20:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol Bowjob
Feb 13 20:40:31 <kakobrekla>	i sold at 25 bought back at 24 sold back some at 25
Feb 13 20:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	youll be rich
Feb 13 20:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 13 20:40:43 <kakobrekla>	good game but not worth it
Feb 13 20:40:44 <gribble>	1 BTC = 24.30001 U.S. dollars = 18.0360796 Euros
Feb 13 20:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	hey, if it drops another euro i can buy my 200 back
Feb 13 20:41:03 <kakobrekla>	better to not look at btc value and just make new coins on fx
Feb 13 20:42:00 <Namworld>	No, unless it drops under 17 USD/BTC
Feb 13 20:42:29 <Namworld>	We're headed back downward
Feb 13 20:42:33 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Feb 13 20:42:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.04750, Best ask: 24.40102, Bid-ask spread: 0.35352, Last trade: 24.04750, 24 hour volume: 126934.28273813, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80032
Feb 13 20:46:41 <aiball>	is this all about asics coming online today?
Feb 13 20:46:44 <Diablo-D3>	probably
Feb 13 20:47:15 <Namworld>	They're coming only today? Who's?
Feb 13 20:47:28 <kakobrekla>	pirates.
Feb 13 20:47:55 <aiball>	so we've got the good old days until at least the next difficulty reset.
Feb 13 20:48:17 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: er, asicminer most likely has almost all of theirs online
Feb 13 20:48:32 <Diablo-D3>	no one can get ahold of friedcat, which is evidence in of itself that hes very busy plugging shit in
Feb 13 20:49:05 <BitHub>	:)
Feb 13 20:49:09 <BitHub>	+1 asicminer
Feb 13 20:49:12 <aiball>	and selling his new btcs
Feb 13 20:49:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?181800-Bitcoin-Giveaway&p=2454907#post2454907
Feb 13 20:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile the girl is totally rocking the stripper thread
Feb 13 20:49:25 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Feb 13 20:49:29 <gribble>	Time since last block: 36 minutes and 6 seconds
Feb 13 20:49:37 <kakobrekla>	so much for asic.
Feb 13 20:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	ya totally asics
Feb 13 20:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 13 20:50:25 <aiball>	MP are you being sarcastic?  I don't know enough to be able to tell...
Feb 13 20:50:49 <aiball>	sorry,, Mr. P
Feb 13 20:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	not rly
Feb 13 20:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	she's really rocking it.
Feb 13 20:52:36 <broomkorn>	lol at that thread
Feb 13 20:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
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Feb 13 20:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 20:54:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.30000, Best ask: 24.35001, Bid-ask spread: 0.05001, Last trade: 24.30000, 24 hour volume: 126809.53474656, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.79075
Feb 13 20:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	i've learned to look at ticker when Bugpowder logs in
Feb 13 20:55:15 <Bugpowder>	Heh
Feb 13 20:55:18 <Bugpowder>	Not bad
Feb 13 20:55:30 <Bugpowder>	Time will tell though
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Feb 13 20:55:54 <Namworld>	I'm the fucker who got the P230T bugpowder =/
Feb 13 20:56:10 <Bugpowder>	How many?
Feb 13 20:56:16 <Namworld>	4000
Feb 13 20:56:17 <Bugpowder>	3k?
Feb 13 20:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	5k?
Feb 13 20:56:20 <mircea_popescu>	eh.
Feb 13 20:56:21 <Bugpowder>	Notice
Feb 13 20:56:22 <Namworld>	in between
Feb 13 20:56:25 <Bugpowder>	Noice
Feb 13 20:56:33 <mircea_popescu>	that may not actually come in the money.
Feb 13 20:56:38 <Bugpowder>	Yah I am locked and loaded
Feb 13 20:56:42 <Namworld>	maybe not.
Feb 13 20:56:52 <Namworld>	But I think the recent growth was too much too fast
Feb 13 20:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder which direction ? short btc ?
Feb 13 20:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld for sure.
Feb 13 20:57:11 <Bugpowder>	10k puts
Feb 13 20:57:15 <Namworld>	As I said, I have a 16-18 USD/BTC valuation.
Feb 13 20:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	i think tho we will see 24-25 for the rest of the month.
Feb 13 20:57:28 <Namworld>	Possible.
Feb 13 20:57:28 <BitHub>	true, no 30?
Feb 13 20:57:29 <Bugpowder>	I have no idea
Feb 13 20:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt it.
Feb 13 20:57:46 <Bugpowder>	I just am swinging for the fences
Feb 13 20:57:47 <BitHub>	maybe a lil sniff of 30
Feb 13 20:57:53 <mircea_popescu>	the way i've seen this to work is when high volume breaks, the price gets set
Feb 13 20:58:08 <mircea_popescu>	and high volume just broke
Feb 13 20:58:09 <BitHub>	25 would be nice for a while tho
Feb 13 20:58:14 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Feb 13 20:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	pretty perfect.
Feb 13 20:58:26 <Bugpowder>	There is a LOT of overhead pressure
Feb 13 20:58:37 <Bugpowder>	25 for a while would be great for smoke
Feb 13 20:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder there was a lot of under pressure for a while.
Feb 13 20:58:46 <Bugpowder>	S.mpoe
Feb 13 20:59:02 <kakobrekla>	well that forum proves it
Feb 13 20:59:03 <Bugpowder>	Yeah and it it fcking annihilated while I had dinner
Feb 13 20:59:07 <DeadWeasel>	that overhead has released a bit too.
Feb 13 20:59:10 <kakobrekla>	whore are retarded in reality as well.
Feb 13 20:59:13 <kakobrekla>	whores*
Feb 13 20:59:19 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol
Feb 13 20:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, don't knock whores, some of my best friends were hos.
Feb 13 20:59:58 <kakobrekla>	well deze bitched be dumb.
Feb 13 21:00:00 <BitHub>	when you have all your funds tied up in bitcoin its days like this you wish your local vedor took bitcoin for a pack of smokes or something
Feb 13 21:00:07 <kakobrekla>	bitches
Feb 13 21:00:10 <kakobrekla>	meh cant type.
Feb 13 21:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub having all your funds tied in bitcoin is unsanitary.
Feb 13 21:00:35 <Bugpowder>	There is a good chance of another leg down.
Feb 13 21:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla tru dat.
Feb 13 21:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder also tru dat.
Feb 13 21:00:52 <BitHub>	well i mean not all my funds but all the fiat i put aside just for bitcoin
Feb 13 21:00:57 <Bugpowder>	Usually these moves are damped oscillations
Feb 13 21:01:11 <Bugpowder>	 23.5 looks like a settle
Feb 13 21:01:15 <Bugpowder>	But...
Feb 13 21:01:19 <Namworld>	Well if bugpowder thinks like me, I'm satisfied.
Feb 13 21:01:29 <Bugpowder>	Anything is possible, cause bitcoin.
Feb 13 21:01:34 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 13 21:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1530 @ 0.00609588 = 9.3267 BTC [+]
Feb 13 21:02:34 <BitHub>	i think i should try other stock exchanges and stuff
Feb 13 21:02:51 <BitHub>	having it all tied up into one site, real  bad idea
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Feb 13 21:04:01 <BitHub>	trying btcjam.com - i'll give you guys a review in a week. Let you know if its any good or a waste of time.
Feb 13 21:04:25 <kakobrekla>	hi, you must be new.
Feb 13 21:05:22 <DeadWeasel>	lol
Feb 13 21:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol totally.
Feb 13 21:06:13 <swhitt>	anyone have opinions on coinbr vs havelock?
Feb 13 21:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub look up the girl's suspected scam thread in btctalk
Feb 13 21:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	swhitt yes. jurov likes coinbr and topace isn't here.
Feb 13 21:06:32 <swhitt>	looking for a 2nd trading platform in addition to mpex
Feb 13 21:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006386 = 2.7594 BTC [-]
Feb 13 21:06:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12479 @ 0.0006384 = 7.9666 BTC [-]
Feb 13 21:06:41 <swhitt>	mircea_popescu: _they_ should eh?
Feb 13 21:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so hehe
Feb 13 21:08:09 <Bugpowder>	Btcjam? Lol
Feb 13 21:08:22 <pigeons>	you can buy everything on coinbr, only s.dice passthrough on havelock and 2 "mining bonds"
Feb 13 21:08:28 <BitHub>	?
Feb 13 21:08:41 <BitHub>	its only 100btc
Feb 13 21:08:48 <BitHub>	i think i'll get most of it back
Feb 13 21:08:50 <pigeons>	s.dice on coinbr pays 100% - account management fee, on havelock it only pays 95%
Feb 13 21:08:51 <Bugpowder>	Coinbr is all you need if you have under 300btc
Feb 13 21:09:10 <Bugpowder>	Mpex is all u need if you have more
Feb 13 21:09:14 <kakobrekla>	there are many better places to put 100 btc
Feb 13 21:09:20 <DeadWeasel>	where?
Feb 13 21:09:25 <BitHub>	like?
Feb 13 21:09:30 <DeadWeasel>	a hookers twat?
Feb 13 21:09:33 <swhitt>	a cold wallet?
Feb 13 21:09:37 <DeadWeasel>	how many btc can I fit in there?
Feb 13 21:09:39 <BitHub>	well it is valentines day
Feb 13 21:09:51 <BitHub>	a cold wallet?
Feb 13 21:09:53 <DeadWeasel>	maybe if I used a thumbdrive, i could keep it in her ass.
Feb 13 21:09:53 <swhitt>	∞ in a cold wallet
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Feb 13 21:09:57 <BitHub>	but i want to make a lil btc off it
Feb 13 21:10:21 <Bowjob>	lol someone wanted me to buy bitcoins for them I get 10% commision
Feb 13 21:10:22 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub so buy mpoe bonds
Feb 13 21:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	at least if you lose your btc you know why.
Feb 13 21:10:38 <swhitt>	well, ∞ as ∞ -> 21,000,000
Feb 13 21:10:54 <BitHub>	i don't even know what mpoe bonds means
Feb 13 21:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	who was runningthe pt, Namworld ?
Feb 13 21:11:07 <BitHub>	i still got lots to learn before doing that
Feb 13 21:11:13 <Bugpowder_>	coinbr
Feb 13 21:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel re thumbdrive : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136077828147.gif
Feb 13 21:11:28 <Bugpowder_>	no need to rush into things
Feb 13 21:11:34 <Bugpowder_>	learn about the market
Feb 13 21:11:43 <Bugpowder_>	there are always new opportunities arising
Feb 13 21:11:44 <BitHub>	i'm only about 6months into it
Feb 13 21:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	if he does things like dropping 100btc on btcjam he won't have much need to learn anything
Feb 13 21:11:51 <BitHub>	but learning heaps
Feb 13 21:11:53 <DeadWeasel>	those aren't thumbs
Feb 13 21:12:00 <DeadWeasel>	mircea_popescu: ^
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Feb 13 21:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel depends on your standards :D
Feb 13 21:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	they look like thumbs to me.
Feb 13 21:12:15 <BitHub>	luzl mircea i was joking about that, i just dropped 5btc to try it out
Feb 13 21:12:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3459 @ 0.0006384 = 2.2082 BTC [-]
Feb 13 21:12:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10741 @ 0.00063696 = 6.8416 BTC [-]
Feb 13 21:12:21 <DeadWeasel>	she sure seems to like it
Feb 13 21:12:30 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel buttcoin!
Feb 13 21:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub that may work. keep us appraised.
Feb 13 21:12:40 <Bowjob>	is coin br a pass thru or is it a bot that directly trades at mpex?
Feb 13 21:12:41 <DeadWeasel>	mircea_popescu: my btcs would not be safe in there.
Feb 13 21:12:45 <BitHub>	will do :)
Feb 13 21:13:01 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob it's a broker i thought ?
Feb 13 21:13:18 <Bowjob>	so i cant sell directly on mpex thru coin.br then
Feb 13 21:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	um
Feb 13 21:13:36 <DeadWeasel>	think we'll settle here? 24.5?
Feb 13 21:13:39 <BitHub>	is mpex doing the most volume right now?
Feb 13 21:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel i was sayingso but these ppl disagreed with me
Feb 13 21:13:47 <BitHub>	for stocks
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Feb 13 21:13:55 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub for everything by very far.
Feb 13 21:14:13 <DeadWeasel>	BitHub: MPEX is like the cartel.
Feb 13 21:14:23 <BitHub>	like a real drug cartel?
Feb 13 21:14:30 <DeadWeasel>	BitHub: they sell the drugs to smaller syndicates, who then open 'exchanges'
Feb 13 21:14:31 <mircea_popescu>	if frank sinatra were a website
Feb 13 21:14:35 <mircea_popescu>	he'd be frank mpexatra.
Feb 13 21:15:04 <DeadWeasel>	BitHub: which are poorly written and run websites they basically sell you what they bought from the 'Cartel'
Feb 13 21:15:13 <BitHub>	ahh ok
Feb 13 21:15:16 <DeadWeasel>	or so they would have us believe.
Feb 13 21:15:47 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Feb 13 21:15:49 <gribble>	Time since last block: 5 minutes and 47 seconds
Feb 13 21:15:52 <kakobrekla>	hrm
Feb 13 21:15:54 <DeadWeasel>	it's all completely improvable and insane, but if you're not a total twat you can make a couple BTC.
Feb 13 21:16:10 <DeadWeasel>	which is fun, but effectively not worth your time if you have a real job.
Feb 13 21:16:11 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Feb 13 21:16:14 <Diablo-D3>	people who ARENT total twats?
Feb 13 21:16:17 <Diablo-D3>	where?
Feb 13 21:16:22 <DeadWeasel>	not in here.
Feb 13 21:16:26 <DeadWeasel>	i'm a twat.
Feb 13 21:16:29 <DeadWeasel>	your a twat.
Feb 13 21:16:32 <DeadWeasel>	everywhere a twat twat
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Feb 13 21:16:45 <DeadWeasel>	*you're
Feb 13 21:16:47 <DeadWeasel>	see I just proved it
Feb 13 21:16:52 *	DeadWeasel is a twat
Feb 13 21:16:53 <mircea_popescu>	jurov's a twink
Feb 13 21:16:56 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap deadweasel
Feb 13 21:16:57 *	gribble slaps deadweasel with a whipping up guggle
Feb 13 21:16:59 <Diablo-D3>	*your
Feb 13 21:17:01 <Diablo-D3>	damnit
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Feb 13 21:17:07 <DeadWeasel>	haha
Feb 13 21:17:09 <DeadWeasel>	twat
Feb 13 21:17:14 <Bugpowder_>	Let's settle at $20
Feb 13 21:17:18 <Bugpowder_>	seems reasonable
Feb 13 21:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 13 21:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;twat deadwat
Feb 13 21:17:25 <gribble>	Error: "twat" is not a valid command.
Feb 13 21:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	!twat gnat
Feb 13 21:17:48 <DeadWeasel>	!twat MPOE
Feb 13 21:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	nu-uh
Feb 13 21:18:14 <DeadWeasel>	come on rebound!
Feb 13 21:18:17 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
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Feb 13 21:18:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.64900, Best ask: 24.72998, Bid-ask spread: 0.08098, Last trade: 24.64900, 24 hour volume: 126154.93631317, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77711
Feb 13 21:18:25 <BitHub>	mpex doesn't seem very serious tho
Feb 13 21:18:26 <BitHub>	?
Feb 13 21:18:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol it'd be so sad if it goes back to 30+
Feb 13 21:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	these guys with all the puts...
Feb 13 21:18:38 <DeadWeasel>	why, how many you dump?
Feb 13 21:18:39 <BitHub>	seems like they could close down and take your coins any day now
Feb 13 21:18:44 <kakobrekla>	mpex is a fucking joke!
Feb 13 21:18:47 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub are you being serious ?
Feb 13 21:18:51 <DeadWeasel>	BitHub: EVERYONE could
Feb 13 21:18:53 <mircea_popescu>	this is like trolling.
Feb 13 21:18:57 <mircea_popescu>	only better.
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Feb 13 21:19:08 <DeadWeasel>	hold you BTCs in a cold wallet at home and don't look back.
Feb 13 21:19:10 <DeadWeasel>	just hold
Feb 13 21:19:11 <kakobrekla>	BitHub they dont even have CSS
Feb 13 21:19:19 <BitHub>	trolling? No i'm being serious its just the impression i'm getting from first reading it
Feb 13 21:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	!css kako
Feb 13 21:19:21 <Bowjob>	maybe they have a troll MPEX contest over at SA
Feb 13 21:19:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064666 = 2.7942 BTC [+]
Feb 13 21:19:25 <pigeons>	mpex is for gypsy puppets!
Feb 13 21:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10346 @ 0.00064701 = 6.694 BTC [+]
Feb 13 21:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob totally.
Feb 13 21:19:34 <DeadWeasel>	Bowjob: that has to be it
Feb 13 21:19:34 <pigeons>	litecoin rulez
Feb 13 21:19:38 <mircea_popescu>	this is where i pimp my new tagline
Feb 13 21:19:45 <DeadWeasel>	pigeons: lol
Feb 13 21:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons is so fringe. he's always like, doing something nobody heard of
Feb 13 21:20:03 <DeadWeasel>	!twat alt coins
Feb 13 21:20:03 <BitHub>	lulz oh, this is your site mircea?
Feb 13 21:20:11 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Feb 13 21:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	hence the MP.
Feb 13 21:20:29 *	BitHub did not know that
Feb 13 21:20:48 <DeadWeasel>	mircea_popescu:  is a harsh mistress.
Feb 13 21:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	also mpoe-pr is my pr chick.
Feb 13 21:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	and this is my bitcoin.
Feb 13 21:21:14 <BitHub>	kako, i actually like the simplicity of the website, easy to understand
Feb 13 21:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	and roger ver is my son.
Feb 13 21:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	they call him bitcoin bejesus.
Feb 13 21:21:36 <BitHub>	i think it just gives off a first impression
Feb 13 21:21:40 <BitHub>	bad
Feb 13 21:22:32 <Bugpowder_>	reddit sentiment remains high
Feb 13 21:22:32 <Bugpowder_>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18haei/sell_sell_mayday_mayday/
Feb 13 21:22:34 <BitHub>	i think its more catered to insiders of the community, rather than the mainstream people
Feb 13 21:22:40 <Bugpowder_>	not sure if this is a counter indicator or not
Feb 13 21:22:43 <DeadWeasel>	30day volume is nearly 2 million BTC
Feb 13 21:22:46 <DeadWeasel>	on gox
Feb 13 21:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ that should be a meme.
Feb 13 21:23:05 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel ya was a heavy day today
Feb 13 21:23:21 <BitHub>	any discount on the 30btc fee for mpex mircea :P
Feb 13 21:23:24 <DeadWeasel>	30K this morning, 140K tonight.  crazy
Feb 13 21:23:25 <Bugpowder_>	yes
Feb 13 21:23:28 <Bugpowder_>	use my referral code
Feb 13 21:23:36 <BitHub>	oh?
Feb 13 21:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub if you use someone's fingerprint you each get 5 btc
Feb 13 21:23:49 <Bugpowder_>	1578A821
Feb 13 21:23:52 <mircea_popescu>	its in the faq
Feb 13 21:23:55 <BitHub>	neat
Feb 13 21:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	he needs the whole keyid tho
Feb 13 21:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	not just the tail
Feb 13 21:24:17 <Bugpowder_>	AA14 8EAF 40BE 9C02 F091  F382 F157 3A6B 1578 A821
Feb 13 21:24:25 <Bugpowder_>	SAVE 5BTC
Feb 13 21:24:27 <kakobrekla>	thats too much.
Feb 13 21:24:30 <BitHub>	so use that whole thing?
Feb 13 21:24:50 <kakobrekla>	neither of those is key id
Feb 13 21:24:51 <Bugpowder_>	I dunno
Feb 13 21:24:53 <Bugpowder_>	fuck
Feb 13 21:25:07 <kakobrekla>	;;getrating bugpowder
Feb 13 21:25:08 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Bugpowder, rated since Tue Sep 11 08:01:46 2012. Cumulative rating 7, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Bugpowder
Feb 13 21:25:14 <BitHub>	does mpex have a failsafe proof backup plan if a GLBSE happens?
Feb 13 21:25:17 <Bugpowder_>	1573a6b1578a821
Feb 13 21:25:18 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=Bugpowder
Feb 13 21:25:22 <Bugpowder_>	use that one
Feb 13 21:25:23 <kakobrekla>	F15
Feb 13 21:25:29 <kakobrekla>	that is what you need
Feb 13 21:25:32 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder_^^
Feb 13 21:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ he's trolling you.
Feb 13 21:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	AA148EAF40BE9C02F091F382F1573A6B1578A821 is teh right thing
Feb 13 21:26:00 <BitHub>	ahh okey, thanks
Feb 13 21:26:03 <kakobrekla>	afaik F1573A6B1578A821 is the right thing
Feb 13 21:26:06 <kakobrekla>	faq says key id
Feb 13 21:26:06 <Bugpowder_>	F1573A6B1578A821
Feb 13 21:26:10 <BitHub>	i'll go with mircea
Feb 13 21:26:11 <Bugpowder_>	its tru
Feb 13 21:26:23 <mircea_popescu>	the longer the better.
Feb 13 21:26:25 <Bugpowder_>	can we get a ROTA ruling
Feb 13 21:26:27 <kakobrekla>	you are all fucked
Feb 13 21:26:27 <Bugpowder_>	??
Feb 13 21:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, re failsafe : see the faq!
Feb 13 21:26:38 <mircea_popescu>	there's a dump and all sorts of discussions
Feb 13 21:26:40 <BitHub>	ahh check
Feb 13 21:26:43 <BitHub>	will do
Feb 13 21:26:57 <mircea_popescu>	rota rules you must all buy me a shrubbery.
Feb 13 21:27:00 <DeadWeasel>	BitHub: just remember to breathe.
Feb 13 21:27:16 *	BitHub is nervous
Feb 13 21:27:30 <BitHub>	i only half know what i'm doing
Feb 13 21:27:48 <BitHub>	but you gotta burn some btc to learn
Feb 13 21:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	so relax, take it easy
Feb 13 21:27:53 <Bugpowder_>	BitHub put all your money in S.MPOE
Feb 13 21:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	what's the hurry.
Feb 13 21:28:04 <Diablo-D3>	bithub, put all your money in dmc 2.0
Feb 13 21:28:16 <Bugpowder_>	put all your money in ART
Feb 13 21:28:27 <DeadWeasel>	or real estate.
Feb 13 21:28:30 <kakobrekla>	put all your money in pirate.
Feb 13 21:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck is art ?
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Feb 13 21:28:32 <DeadWeasel>	that has art on it.
Feb 13 21:28:41 <BitHub>	i just want to start earning 1btc a day
Feb 13 21:28:45 <BitHub>	as quickly as possible
Feb 13 21:28:48 <BitHub>	off divs or whatever
Feb 13 21:28:50 <DeadWeasel>	sell your ass
Feb 13 21:28:53 <DeadWeasel>	or that
Feb 13 21:29:01 <Bugpowder_>	BitHub divs are not where its at
Feb 13 21:29:13 <Bugpowder_>	capital appreciation outweighs it
Feb 13 21:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	he has a point.
Feb 13 21:29:27 <Bugpowder_>	So much capital flow into MPEX must go somewhere
Feb 13 21:29:28 <BitHub>	have no idea what that means
Feb 13 21:29:40 <Bugpowder_>	stock price rises have crushed the dividends
Feb 13 21:29:49 <BitHub>	oh
Feb 13 21:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	actually i don't even have that much capital
Feb 13 21:30:16 <Bugpowder_>	Like S.DICE has paid out around what, .01?
Feb 13 21:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	there's totally 5-6 mn still waiting for a home out there
Feb 13 21:30:39 <Bugpowder_>	err
Feb 13 21:30:43 <Bugpowder_>	.001
Feb 13 21:30:51 <BitHub>	i think a year from now i'll be doing alot better
Feb 13 21:30:53 <Bugpowder_>	but price has risen .0035
Feb 13 21:31:00 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 13 21:31:01 <BitHub>	just need to get that first n00b year out of the way
Feb 13 21:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	sounds about right
Feb 13 21:31:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00598092 / 0.00617859 / 0.00625 (29517 shares, 182.37 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00619263 / 0.0064 (1926831 shares, 11,932.15 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.0056144 / 0.0075 (8131062 shares, 45,651.11 BTC)
Feb 13 21:31:14 <Bugpowder_>	good, keep that positive attitude and you'll go far son.
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Feb 13 21:31:24 <BitHub>	:)
Feb 13 21:31:31 <mircea_popescu>	you know what i just realised ?
Feb 13 21:31:38 <BitHub>	you're right mircea no rush
Feb 13 21:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	there's actually perversely more room for stock appreciation than for dividends
Feb 13 21:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	because the listed busiensses are MUCH better at their business than avg btc person at allocating capital
Feb 13 21:33:07 <Bugpowder_>	As risk perception of bitcoin goes down, stock price should approach a point where dividends are paying 5% of price a year
Feb 13 21:33:14 <BitHub>	so buying and selling shares is much better than just waiting on divs?
Feb 13 21:33:23 <Bugpowder_>	buying mostly
Feb 13 21:33:30 <Bugpowder_>	but divs are nice too
Feb 13 21:33:48 <BitHub>	every share i have pays a div, which is nice, long term play
Feb 13 21:33:51 <Bugpowder_>	S.MPOE is like the daytrading stock
Feb 13 21:33:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 20*12*20 / 10000
Feb 13 21:33:53 <gribble>	0.48
Feb 13 21:33:57 <Bugpowder_>	bots are on it all the time
Feb 13 21:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	so that'd be a half bitcoin s.dice
Feb 13 21:34:05 <Bugpowder_>	S.DICE is the heavy divvy stock
Feb 13 21:34:25 <Bugpowder_>	but I have concerns about their revenue staying up
Feb 13 21:34:31 <BitHub>	yeah me too
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Feb 13 21:34:33 <mircea_popescu>	mo money mo problems
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Feb 13 21:34:38 <BitHub>	i think it might be the myspace of the bitcoin world
Feb 13 21:34:41 <Bugpowder_>	until I see more money flowing into the big betting accounts
Feb 13 21:34:57 <Bugpowder_>	S.BBET has potential, but got bought really high in the IPO
Feb 13 21:35:09 <BitHub>	might be a passing fad? sdice
Feb 13 21:35:10 <Bugpowder_>	so shares are very expensive relative to current div
Feb 13 21:35:17 <Bugpowder_>	but most growth potential there
Feb 13 21:35:18 <BitHub>	i purchased alot of s.bbet on ipo
Feb 13 21:35:25 <BitHub>	long term play as well
Feb 13 21:35:26 <Bugpowder_>	Oh?
Feb 13 21:35:31 <Bugpowder_>	so you are not a n00b
Feb 13 21:35:38 <BitHub>	kind of
Feb 13 21:35:41 <mircea_popescu>	well, bitbet made ~1400 worth of bets in jan. there's already like 1300+ and it's half february
Feb 13 21:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	or not even
Feb 13 21:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	and the div was calculated on ~400 btc that closed in january.
Feb 13 21:36:02 <Bugpowder_>	so dividend payout is...
Feb 13 21:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	prolly gonna increase
Feb 13 21:36:13 <BitHub>	i love divs hehe
Feb 13 21:36:35 <Bugpowder_>	Then you have the futures
Feb 13 21:36:42 <Bugpowder_>	but nobody will buy them
Feb 13 21:36:45 <Bugpowder_>	for some reason
Feb 13 21:36:58 <BitHub>	i don't understand those enough
Feb 13 21:36:59 <Bugpowder_>	despite the very resonable sale price on the current MAR futures
Feb 13 21:37:03 <Bugpowder_>	and the options
Feb 13 21:37:08 <Bugpowder_>	are where the real money is made
Feb 13 21:37:09 <Bugpowder_>	and lost
Feb 13 21:37:46 <mircea_popescu>	ya options can well wipe you, esp short
Feb 13 21:39:00 <BitHub>	do you think bbet would exchange some shares with me for some domains?
Feb 13 21:40:19 <Bugpowder_>	o fuk
Feb 13 21:40:24 <Bugpowder_>	2200 bid at 24.5
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Feb 13 21:41:45 <kakobrekla>	so much for cheap weekend coins
Feb 13 21:41:53 <Bugpowder_>	heh
Feb 13 21:41:56 <Bugpowder_>	we will see
Feb 13 21:42:02 <Bugpowder_>	I'm not giving up yet
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Feb 13 21:42:27 <kakobrekla>	i have more euros comming in dunno it just doesnt stop
Feb 13 21:48:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 21:48:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.20100, Best ask: 25.25167, Bid-ask spread: 0.05067, Last trade: 25.43850, 24 hour volume: 125018.23437143, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77011
Feb 13 21:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	rollercoaster of fun.
Feb 13 21:48:44 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub you mean, they give shares for your domains ?
Feb 13 21:49:32 <DeadWeasel>	unlikely
Feb 13 21:49:44 <Bugpowder_>	fuuuuuk
Feb 13 21:49:45 <Bugpowder_>	dis
Feb 13 21:49:55 <Bugpowder_>	I should have checked the reddit sentiment index
Feb 13 21:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 21:49:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.21105, Best ask: 25.29999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08894, Last trade: 25.21103, 24 hour volume: 125052.58662713, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77029
Feb 13 21:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 13 21:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ what do you have now, calls ? puts ?
Feb 13 21:50:10 <kakobrekla>	this is milk.
Feb 13 21:50:20 <Bugpowder_>	lots of puts
Feb 13 21:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	o.
Feb 13 21:50:28 <Bugpowder_>	no volume on this move
Feb 13 21:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	that may not be the best thing.
Feb 13 21:50:34 <Bugpowder_>	meh
Feb 13 21:50:37 <Bugpowder_>	we will see
Feb 13 21:51:42 <Bugpowder_>	Show me a 5k volume candleon the 15m and I'll believe it
Feb 13 21:51:44 *	DeadWeasel has a post-secret moment.  "i bought 50btc at $25"
Feb 13 21:51:53 <DeadWeasel>	fawk
Feb 13 21:52:07 <DeadWeasel>	but it looks less bad now
Feb 13 21:52:07 <truffles>	hi deadweasel
Feb 13 21:52:12 <truffles>	shouldve gotten them at 22
Feb 13 21:52:22 <Bugpowder_>	very very hard to time that shit
Feb 13 21:52:27 <DeadWeasel>	I got most at 14-16
Feb 13 21:52:37 <truffles>	im going to get them at 10
Feb 13 21:52:47 <DeadWeasel>	shoulda waited for todays dump though, but bugpowder is right
Feb 13 21:52:51 <DeadWeasel>	ain't no way to know
Feb 13 21:52:58 <DeadWeasel>	so I Hooooooooolllldd
Feb 13 21:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	ya, nobody;'s timing this crap.
Feb 13 21:53:15 <DeadWeasel>	i love the speculation thread on bitcointalk
Feb 13 21:53:15 <mircea_popescu>	i mean even if you do it,
Feb 13 21:53:19 <DeadWeasel>	i geta kick out of it
Feb 13 21:53:19 <mircea_popescu>	you prolly got lucky.
Feb 13 21:53:41 <Bugpowder_>	I think we are gonna drop from here
Feb 13 21:53:43 <DeadWeasel>	if you constantly watch the different charts, it's possible, but i work and eat and poop.
Feb 13 21:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 21:55:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.21206, Best ask: 25.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08794, Last trade: 25.30000, 24 hour volume: 125063.37060347, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77082
Feb 13 21:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	hey vwap actually moving up
Feb 13 21:55:29 <Bugpowder_>	picking out apartments in santa monica
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Feb 13 22:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19317 @ 0.00063722 = 12.3092 BTC [-]
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Feb 13 22:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2033 @ 0.00063722 = 1.2955 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1665 @ 0.00064701 = 1.0773 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:06:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064784 = 2.7993 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064784 = 2.7993 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1810 @ 0.00064785 = 1.1726 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 22:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3754 @ 0.00063696 = 2.3911 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2096 @ 0.0006368 = 1.3347 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:09:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2225 @ 0.0006368 = 1.4169 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:09:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4615 @ 0.00063679 = 2.9388 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:12:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5191 @ 0.00064785 = 3.363 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006518 = 2.8164 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:12:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00065181 = 4.2368 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:14:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 22:14:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.00929, Best ask: 25.19900, Bid-ask spread: 0.18971, Last trade: 25.19900, 24 hour volume: 126127.08330674, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77347
Feb 13 22:17:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0063 = 0.63 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:19:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00067 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:19:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.00067 = 0.335 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 692 @ 0.00065181 = 0.4511 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065205 = 2.8175 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065222 = 0.6522 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:23:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4781 @ 0.00065223 = 3.1183 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 22:29:35 <Bugpowder>	ha, the new header borked my spreadsheet
Feb 13 22:29:38 <Bugpowder>	fixed now
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Feb 13 22:35:49 <swhitt>	is there a way to subscribe to the trades feed without polling the rss feed?
Feb 13 22:36:39 <swhitt>	and how often is considered kosher (on MPEx)
Feb 13 22:37:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0157 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:38:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0156 = 0.1248 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:38:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0154 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00065223 = 8.642 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 22:41:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00595 = 0.0595 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:41:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0061 = 0.061 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:42:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0061 = 0.122 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:42:26 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 13 22:42:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.56458, Best ask: 25.57789, Bid-ask spread: 0.01331, Last trade: 25.42042, 24 hour volume: 131695.93004727, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80064
Feb 13 22:42:32 <kakobrekla>	lolz
Feb 13 22:42:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00195 = 0.0195 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:43:19 <kakobrekla>	25.9
Feb 13 22:43:22 <kakobrekla>	haha
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Feb 13 22:43:35 <kakobrekla>	unserious.
Feb 13 22:44:17 <Namworld>	wow, did it bounce back to 26?
Feb 13 22:44:26 <Namworld>	Look at the depth charts tho
Feb 13 22:44:27 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Feb 13 22:44:43 <kakobrekla>	5k buy 5 min ago
Feb 13 22:45:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00981 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:45:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00981 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:45:24 <kakobrekla>	i am aware of depth, lookin at same thing since 2011 or what was it
Feb 13 22:45:28 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 13 22:46:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00067 = 0.067 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:46:28 <Bugpowder>	fuk
Feb 13 22:46:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:46:54 <kakobrekla>	preety insane eh
Feb 13 22:47:12 <Bugpowder>	deez nuts
Feb 13 22:47:13 <kakobrekla>	there we go, bids rising
Feb 13 22:48:04 <Bugpowder>	I wish I had enough coins to destroy this rally
Feb 13 22:49:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:49:29 <Namworld>	One of the larger player off to sell off a good chunk soon before it's too late.
Feb 13 22:49:56 <Bugpowder>	stay strong NAMWORLD
Feb 13 22:50:18 <Namworld>	What for?
Feb 13 22:50:28 <Namworld>	I'm certain it will go back down hard soon.
Feb 13 22:50:41 <Namworld>	But I'm not 100% sure that soon will be before the 22th
Feb 13 22:51:07 <Namworld>	Either way, I put 280 BTC down on my puts
Feb 13 22:52:35 <Bugpowder>	sheeeit
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Feb 13 22:52:49 <Bugpowder>	there was a 5k green candle on the bounce now
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Feb 13 22:53:24 <Namworld>	Old news
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Feb 13 22:53:35 <Bugpowder>	make the dings stopppp
Feb 13 22:53:55 <Bugpowder>	I dunnot though
Feb 13 22:54:02 <Bugpowder>	that was a HEAVY move down
Feb 13 22:54:08 <Bugpowder>	not convinced the drop is done
Feb 13 22:54:46 <Bugpowder>	christ on a stick
Feb 13 22:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1130 @ 0.00065223 = 0.737 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9970 @ 0.00065228 = 6.5032 BTC [+]
Feb 13 22:54:50 <Namworld>	I am not either...
Feb 13 22:54:59 <Namworld>	Dropped a lot, then it started going back up fast
Feb 13 22:55:16 <Bugpowder>	it was a slow fall
Feb 13 22:55:16 <Namworld>	people bought... but that was because there's no market depth.
Feb 13 22:55:19 <Bugpowder>	fo a while
Feb 13 22:55:23 <Namworld>	I look at the depth charts
Feb 13 22:55:35 <Bugpowder>	Well... Cant exite
Feb 13 22:55:43 <Bugpowder>	without assrapage
Feb 13 22:55:48 <Bugpowder>	I'll sleep on it
Feb 13 22:56:07 <Bugpowder>	That dude that covered his put short
Feb 13 22:56:13 <Bugpowder>	raped again
Feb 13 22:56:21 <Bugpowder>	he is MPOEs best freind
Feb 13 22:56:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5796 @ 0.00065169 = 3.7772 BTC [-]
Feb 13 22:56:24 <Namworld>	When it's either lose 90% on exiting or stay on your decision...
Feb 13 22:56:28 <Bugpowder>	funds half the bond
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Feb 13 22:56:47 <Namworld>	Better stick to your decision. That 10% will be no consolation.
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Feb 13 22:57:09 <Bugpowder>	this still comforts me
Feb 13 22:57:10 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 13 22:57:25 <Namworld>	Well yeah, at least rally looks killed.
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Feb 13 22:58:02 <Bugpowder>	i dunno
Feb 13 22:58:08 <Bugpowder>	I just dont know
Feb 13 22:58:16 <Bugpowder>	I don't think it was a bad call though
Feb 13 22:58:20 <Bugpowder>	like
Feb 13 22:58:40 <Bugpowder>	I bought the puts at 25.00
Feb 13 22:59:02 <Bugpowder>	and it went to 21.72
Feb 13 22:59:07 <Bugpowder>	that is not a bad call
Feb 13 22:59:08 <Namworld>	I think the odds of the rally going down before the 22th are good. That first drop and more bearish ask is good enough to me.
Feb 13 22:59:27 <Namworld>	I've been waiting on it for weeks.
Feb 13 23:00:02 <Bugpowder>	going to bed
Feb 13 23:00:06 <Bugpowder>	good luck
Feb 13 23:00:11 <Namworld>	To you too.
Feb 13 23:00:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 10 @ 0.0299 = 0.299 BTC [+]
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Feb 13 23:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 23:08:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.78395, Best ask: 26.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21605, Last trade: 26.25000, 24 hour volume: 137291.37159601, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.87115
Feb 13 23:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	sooo.. back up ?
Feb 13 23:08:43 <kakobrekla>	im suprised
Feb 13 23:08:55 <Namworld>	Some bought back a few thousands...
Feb 13 23:09:07 <Namworld>	But now the bids depths are very short
Feb 13 23:09:15 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 13 23:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	methinks the mtgox book may be as meaningless as the mpex book.
Feb 13 23:13:36 <Namworld>	Maybe
Feb 13 23:14:01 <mircea_popescu>	swhitt i guess you could use feedburner or such ?
Feb 13 23:14:16 <swhitt>	mircea_popescu: hi
Feb 13 23:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> I wish I had enough coins to destroy this rally <<< one doesn't simply destroy this rally.
Feb 13 23:14:29 <swhitt>	I was just wondering how often would be considered 'impolite' by yourself
Feb 13 23:15:09 <swhitt>	if I were to be polling for changes
Feb 13 23:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	the rss ? anything over 10 times a minute i guess
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Feb 13 23:16:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7125 @ 0.00065228 = 4.6475 BTC [+]
Feb 13 23:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 13 23:16:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063679 / 0.00064992 / 0.00066142 (1336281 shares, 868.48 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00065743 / 0.0007 (18930104 shares, 12,445.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066264 / 0.0007 (72883171 shares, 48,295.65 BTC)
Feb 13 23:17:33 <swhitt>	mircea_popescu: oh, ok. I won't be anything near that. I'd let you know before I did anything close to that. How often does assbot poll?
Feb 13 23:17:49 <mircea_popescu>	assbot gets a push
Feb 13 23:18:03 <swhitt>	ah
Feb 13 23:18:05 <mircea_popescu>	you can also get the twitter feed, if you have a twitter api key
Feb 13 23:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	(twitter also gets a push)
Feb 13 23:18:19 <swhitt>	no way to subscribe to a push at this time?
Feb 13 23:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	nah, not currently.
Feb 13 23:18:40 <swhitt>	that might be easier to ensure that everything is up to date.
Feb 13 23:18:42 <swhitt>	kk
Feb 13 23:18:52 <swhitt>	thanks for the info
Feb 13 23:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	ya but you'd have to be strategically important. in general what im thinking is push to some high uptime strong distribution networks and everyone can poll those
Feb 13 23:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	seems the most stable/efficient solution
Feb 13 23:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	you can probably configure a listener bot in this chan and it can push to you wherever tho
Feb 13 23:19:52 <swhitt>	yeah, I completely understand. That makes sense.
Feb 13 23:20:14 <kakobrekla>	if you give me an intiative, i can repush.
Feb 13 23:20:15 <swhitt>	well, I'd want redundancy if it wasn't the "official" feed
Feb 13 23:20:33 <swhitt>	so I might do a combination of twitter+irc
Feb 13 23:20:42 <swhitt>	let me see.
Feb 13 23:21:28 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=&i=&c=1&s=2008-11-01&e=2013-02-14&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=SMA&m1=365&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&
Feb 13 23:21:34 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 13 23:21:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.93500, Best ask: 26.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06500, Last trade: 26.00000, 24 hour volume: 141166.77007292, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.90903
Feb 13 23:21:45 <Namworld>	That brown line is average growth on 365 days
Feb 13 23:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	that shows uptrend neh ?
Feb 13 23:22:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3455 @ 0.00065228 = 2.2536 BTC [+]
Feb 13 23:22:10 <Namworld>	yeah, uptrend. But the current price? Might be a bubble.
Feb 13 23:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12295 @ 0.00065327 = 8.032 BTC [+]
Feb 13 23:22:11 <swhitt>	is there any way to see 2nd derivative of that trendline?
Feb 13 23:23:03 <Namworld>	I don't know
Feb 13 23:24:31 <Namworld>	The price raising fast over the yearly trend seems to be near pirate end, when lots of people got burned. Dropped a bit afterward. Then everyone started to load up for some reason.
Feb 13 23:24:47 <Namworld>	Now in the last days, no asks almost. Price skyrocketed, no one was selling.
Feb 13 23:25:25 <Namworld>	It just seems like that price is not sustainable to me. Although I think Bitcoins are worth more than last year and will continue trending upward.
Feb 13 23:25:44 <Namworld>	It's just that now, we're way too high.
Feb 13 23:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	well not really.
Feb 13 23:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	the thing with bitcoin is, the larger the total value the more appealing they are to people.
Feb 13 23:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	so i think one of the reasons price is going up is to give space for various interests.
Feb 13 23:29:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.748 = 2.244 BTC [-]
Feb 13 23:30:00 <ThickAsThieves>	finally caught up on the chat log, mp, that stripper thread is great
Feb 13 23:31:36 <Namworld>	Maybe... I don't see the appeal in higher prices tho
Feb 13 23:31:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4305 @ 0.00065327 = 2.8123 BTC [+]
Feb 13 23:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7645 @ 0.00065379 = 4.9982 BTC [+]
Feb 13 23:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves totally. she owns them like....
Feb 13 23:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld well the appeal is this : if you go to iran and say hey, don't be stupid moving your dough on aplane, move it in bitcoin
Feb 13 23:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	they go "does bitcoin have enough mkt cap to cover 200mn ?!"
Feb 13 23:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	you better be able to say yes.
Feb 13 23:33:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [+]
Feb 13 23:34:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.748 BTC [-]
Feb 13 23:34:22 <ThickAsThieves>	Do BitBets resolve before their closing date if satisfied? http://bitbet.us/bet/221/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-20-24-and/
Feb 13 23:34:34 <ThickAsThieves>	or do they stick to the schedule regardless
Feb 13 23:34:54 <ThickAsThieves>	(high was 26.60)
Feb 13 23:35:08 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 13 23:35:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.20004, Best ask: 26.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04996, Last trade: 26.25000, 24 hour volume: 146215.43264948, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.60000, 24 hour vwap: 24.95764
Feb 13 23:35:18 <mircea_popescu>	<ThickAsThieves> ya that'll prolly resolve soon
Feb 13 23:35:33 <Namworld>	it doesn't... if anyone would buy for that much, would skyrocket the price. But then if he wants to sell?
Feb 13 23:36:15 <ThickAsThieves>	he doesnt sell, he keeps transacting in BTC
Feb 13 23:36:24 <ThickAsThieves>	or sells slowly
Feb 13 23:36:29 <ThickAsThieves>	or both more likely
Feb 13 23:36:39 <kakobrekla>	interesting moody shows 26.3 high?
Feb 13 23:37:12 <ThickAsThieves>	btccharts is where i got mine
Feb 13 23:37:22 <kakobrekla>	the thing is
Feb 13 23:37:33 <ThickAsThieves>	mtgox.com shows it too
Feb 13 23:37:35 <kakobrekla>	some prices are converted
Feb 13 23:37:51 <kakobrekla>	mtgox usd never reached that high
Feb 13 23:37:57 <kakobrekla>	mtgox xxx did
Feb 13 23:38:07 <kakobrekla>	converted to usd ... goes over it
Feb 13 23:38:46 <jcpham>	Up huh?
Feb 13 23:38:49 <maximian>	26.65… this rally is mad
Feb 13 23:39:12 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Feb 13 23:39:18 <jcpham>	I am without computer
Feb 13 23:39:21 <ThickAsThieves>	that good kako? :)
Feb 13 23:39:23 <ThickAsThieves>	https://mtgox.com/index.html?Currency=USD
Feb 13 23:39:25 <jcpham>	So afk it hurtz
Feb 13 23:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder hey man! new top. 26.6!
Feb 13 23:39:34 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Feb 13 23:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 13 23:39:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.19070, Best ask: 26.34181, Bid-ask spread: 0.15111, Last trade: 26.64000, 24 hour volume: 147736.52475072, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 24.97344
Feb 13 23:40:00 <kakobrekla>	yes it just passed 26.6 in gox usd
Feb 13 23:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	yuppers
Feb 13 23:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	crzy
Feb 13 23:40:13 <kakobrekla>	fucked
Feb 13 23:40:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i bet about 3btc on monday morning :)
Feb 13 23:41:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i think it was monday... no matter
Feb 13 23:41:18 <Namworld>	It's a bulltrap... don't listen to mircea... there's some dude who bought tons of calls. He wants price to go down. He just wants more people to buy calls prior to that =P
Feb 13 23:41:19 <ThickAsThieves>	after our conversation about BitBet ive been hanging there more
Feb 13 23:42:08 <Namworld>	That bitcoins are sustainably worth that much... it's a possibility but I'm betting against it.
Feb 13 23:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol wut
Feb 13 23:43:14 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im off to bed. take care all!
Feb 13 23:43:17 <ThickAsThieves>	man, people are panic buying and will for a while
Feb 13 23:43:23 <ThickAsThieves>	adios
Feb 13 23:43:27 <Namworld>	Bye
Feb 13 23:43:48 <Namworld>	Maybe I'm just a fool... put the average bitcoiner and newbies seem incredibly bearish... that gotta blow up at some point.
Feb 13 23:44:02 <ThickAsThieves>	nah, bears are just loud
Feb 13 23:44:08 <broomkorn>	ROAR
Feb 13 23:44:13 <Namworld>	eh
Feb 13 23:44:27 <Namworld>	I meant bullish >.>
Feb 13 23:44:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not saying *something* cant stop the rally
Feb 13 23:44:34 <ThickAsThieves>	but the natural course is up
Feb 13 23:44:52 <ThickAsThieves>	people are investing every day in BTC
Feb 13 23:45:35 <pigeons>	how long have you been here ThickAsThieves?
Feb 13 23:45:39 <Namworld>	That's the kind of thoughts that creates bubbles... natural course is up... everyone is investing in it... we'll always have someone else to sell to
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Feb 13 23:46:07 <Namworld>	It can't always go up.
Feb 13 23:46:24 <ThickAsThieves>	nope
Feb 13 23:46:27 <ThickAsThieves>	it can't
Feb 13 23:46:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i just think it has a lot more bubbling to do
Feb 13 23:46:41 <kakobrekla>	Its never too high to buy and too low to sell.
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Feb 13 23:56:47 <B0g4r7>	Seems probably.
Feb 13 23:56:49 <B0g4r7>	probable
Feb 13 23:57:12 <B0g4r7>	I don't have EMAs on charts, but I bet they're all firmly upward.
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Feb 14 00:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4597 @ 0.00065379 = 3.0055 BTC [+]
Feb 14 00:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121 @ 0.00065665 = 0.0795 BTC [+]
Feb 14 00:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7932 @ 0.00065666 = 5.2086 BTC [+]
Feb 14 00:01:54 <knotwork>	A lot of groups that would have liked to include bitcoins in their reserves had been delaying doing so because they would have needed more bitcoins than existed or would have driven the price up fast benefitting their opponents more than themselves
Feb 14 00:01:54 <Namworld>	Make some then
Feb 14 00:02:20 <Namworld>	knotwork: source?
Feb 14 00:02:23 <knotwork>	so for a long time they were all picking them up stealthily
Feb 14 00:02:41 <knotwork>	http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/plotbtc.html
Feb 14 00:02:58 <knotwork>	http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/plotsharesinbtc.html
Feb 14 00:03:39 <knotwork>	more generally, http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html
Feb 14 00:04:22 <aiball>	so, long time like 5 days ago?
Feb 14 00:04:54 <aiball>	sorry, I'm an idiot
Feb 14 00:04:57 <knotwork>	no, since even before the charting/plotting was started last august
Feb 14 00:05:53 <knotwork>	basically any player who thought other players, in particular, "enemies" rather than "allies" held ten or twenty or hundreds of times more bitcoin than they did didn't want to drive up its value as that would benefit opponents more than themselves
Feb 14 00:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 5 @ 0.2394984 = 1.1975 BTC [-]
Feb 14 00:06:16 <knotwork>	so they tended to mostly pick them up when they were in dips of price and try not to drive them up
Feb 14 00:06:52 <knotwork>	but that led to their own currencies going into exponential climb, which eventually broke and they all seem to have been moving into bitcoin a lot more since then
Feb 14 00:07:52 <knotwork>	so instead of constantly climbing as compared to bitcoin as they did for so long, lately they have been going down compared to bitcoin (though still up in terms of whatever, icecream or milk or peanuts etc)
Feb 14 00:09:29 <knotwork>	basically they need shitloads of bitcoins if they want significant part of reserves to be in the form of bitcoins, even at now's price still more bitcoins than remain to be minted maybe, maybe more than will ever exist, at current ridiculously low price of bitcoins
Feb 14 00:10:01 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 00:10:06 <mjr_>	it is tiny now
Feb 14 00:10:15 <knotwork>	so basically they need bitcoins to be worth shitloads more, and finally have started taking part in making it be more
Feb 14 00:10:21 <mjr_>	it is like saying that the price of gold is bubbling at $100
Feb 14 00:10:34 <knotwork>	for a long time they sat back waiting for others to drive bitcoin price up
Feb 14 00:10:38 <mjr_>	in a macro sense, their upper limit is way higher than this
Feb 14 00:10:44 <knotwork>	finally they are biting the bullet and being part of making it go up
Feb 14 00:10:52 <mjr_>	to be honest, i think that coinbase is having an effect
Feb 14 00:11:10 <knotwork>	mostly because their alternatives were skyrocking way higher than bitcoin and that just felt wrong
Feb 14 00:11:12 <mjr_>	if they are adding $1 million a month
Feb 14 00:11:33 <knotwork>	I never expected any of them to go up TO bitcoin's value yet most of them exceeded it and some still do exceed it
Feb 14 00:11:35 <mjr_>	of course prices will rise, they are very new, and i wouldn't be surprised if that was a large part of the rally
Feb 14 00:11:39 <knotwork>	so they need to bring bitcoin up a lot yet
Feb 14 00:11:56 <knotwork>	but of course prefer not to do it by driving their alternatives down
Feb 14 00:12:12 <knotwork>	kust slow the rise ofr alternatives to let bitcoin rise faster but all still rise
Feb 14 00:12:21 <mjr_>	I would not be surprised that coinbase running out of inventory is what slowed down the rise today
Feb 14 00:12:40 <pigeons>	again, who are you man?
Feb 14 00:12:52 <pigeons>	coinbase, comon
Feb 14 00:12:58 <Namworld>	cool story bro, but from where did you pull it out?
Feb 14 00:13:12 <jcpham>	Derp
Feb 14 00:13:20 <mjr_>	look, i'm just saying this
Feb 14 00:13:28 <mjr_>	demand is x, price is y
Feb 14 00:13:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00065666 = 3.2176 BTC [+]
Feb 14 00:13:36 <mjr_>	demand is x+1 million more
Feb 14 00:13:41 <mjr_>	of course price goes up
Feb 14 00:14:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [-]
Feb 14 00:14:03 <midnightmagic>	or demand offloads somewhere else.
Feb 14 00:14:11 <mjr_>	huh?
Feb 14 00:14:28 <mjr_>	they are offering out at mt. gox + 1%
Feb 14 00:14:30 <midnightmagic>	you're assuming a perfect market with no competition and rational consumers.
Feb 14 00:14:35 <mjr_>	and no, i'm not
Feb 14 00:14:46 <mjr_>	i'm assuming that demand affects price when supply is limited
Feb 14 00:14:55 <midnightmagic>	or is this the continuation of a topic and not generalized statements.
Feb 14 00:15:19 <mjr_>	i'm just saying that the biggest factor in price is demand, they have made it easier to get for many US people
Feb 14 00:15:37 <mjr_>	combined with lots more news stories
Feb 14 00:15:40 <pigeons>	its one of the people who shows up for a week and magically can tell the future
Feb 14 00:15:46 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 14 00:15:52 <mjr_>	i was "telling" the past
Feb 14 00:16:06 <mjr_>	we have had a very strong january and early february
Feb 14 00:16:16 <pigeons>	irrelephant
Feb 14 00:16:34 <aiball>	I agree about coinbase.
Feb 14 00:16:35 <mjr_>	just saying that coinbase's rise in popularity had SOME impact on that...
Feb 14 00:16:47 <mjr_>	it wasn't the only thing, but it was a factor
Feb 14 00:16:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4204 @ 0.00065169 = 2.7397 BTC [-]
Feb 14 00:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064584 = 2.7907 BTC [-]
Feb 14 00:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12875 @ 0.00064583 = 8.3151 BTC [-]
Feb 14 00:16:53 <aiball>	but it was really more about the pizza for me
Feb 14 00:16:57 <midnightmagic>	lol
Feb 14 00:17:02 <mjr_>	yeah pizza was huge
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Feb 14 00:17:08 <mjr_>	and cell phones
Feb 14 00:17:33 <aiball>	omg minutes will be huge and then some
Feb 14 00:17:51 <pigeons>	so irc channels "jump the shark" too
Feb 14 00:18:07 <aiball>	sorry I'll quit
Feb 14 00:18:53 <jcpham>	we are all jaded and don't care
Feb 14 00:18:53 <mjr_>	wait, pigeon are you arguing that coinbase is NOT affecting price
Feb 14 00:19:08 <jcpham>	I trade off market mostly
Feb 14 00:19:14 <mjr_>	yeah of course
Feb 14 00:19:17 <mjr_>	that is the way to do it
Feb 14 00:19:19 <jcpham>	No service really affects me
Feb 14 00:19:47 <jcpham>	It isn't hard to get coins
Feb 14 00:19:47 <mjr_>	ok, i am not saying affecting you directly...but since even bitcoinlocal usually says mt. gox + 5%
Feb 14 00:19:52 <jcpham>	Or unload them
Feb 14 00:19:56 <pigeons>	i blame mpoe-pr
Feb 14 00:19:58 <mjr_>	of course not
Feb 14 00:20:02 <jcpham>	Just depends on how i want to do it
Feb 14 00:20:09 <mjr_>	i never said it was hard
Feb 14 00:20:17 <mjr_>	but you are on an irc channel
Feb 14 00:20:30 <jcpham>	Yeah uber geeky
Feb 14 00:20:30 <mjr_>	which puts you in the 1% of americans technologically speaking
Feb 14 00:20:40 <jcpham>	But i also consider it the source
Feb 14 00:20:45 <mjr_>	yes of course
Feb 14 00:20:49 <jcpham>	The real source of knowlege
Feb 14 00:20:52 <mjr_>	i'm saying that WE don't have to use coinbase
Feb 14 00:20:59 <mjr_>	but random joe sixpack does
Feb 14 00:21:05 <jcpham>	I get it
Feb 14 00:21:10 <mjr_>	downloading blockchain and wallet client is too hard
Feb 14 00:21:18 <jcpham>	I agree it is
Feb 14 00:21:22 <mjr_>	they don't understand public key crypto
Feb 14 00:21:28 <mjr_>	nor do they want to YET
Feb 14 00:21:30 <jcpham>	Good luck to them
Feb 14 00:21:35 <mjr_>	exactly
Feb 14 00:21:49 <jcpham>	And on top of that who wants to pay 25 bucks
Feb 14 00:21:50 <mjr_>	i'm saying that the door to the masses is coinbase
Feb 14 00:21:54 <jcpham>	Excuse me 26
Feb 14 00:21:56 <mjr_>	i do
Feb 14 00:21:59 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 14 00:22:01 <jcpham>	Yeah
Feb 14 00:22:04 <mjr_>	need moar bitcoin
Feb 14 00:22:16 <jcpham>	That's crazy talk to me
Feb 14 00:22:22 <mjr_>	i guess
Feb 14 00:22:27 <jcpham>	Maybe i'm just poor
Feb 14 00:22:31 <pigeons>	mjr_: yes i'm arguing that coinbase is retarded
Feb 14 00:22:43 <jcpham>	Pigeons trades otc
Feb 14 00:22:50 <mjr_>	that is the best way
Feb 14 00:22:53 <mjr_>	except for local
Feb 14 00:22:54 <jcpham>	And can get coins any way he pleases
Feb 14 00:23:00 <mjr_>	obviously we all can
Feb 14 00:23:07 <mjr_>	my favorite way is at a poker game
Feb 14 00:23:41 <mjr_>	but saying everyone has the level of expertise as pigeon or namworld is crazy
Feb 14 00:23:48 <pigeons>	it has nothing to do with that
Feb 14 00:23:55 <jcpham>	Dedication is more like it
Feb 14 00:23:56 <pigeons>	it has to do with that you're talking out your ass
Feb 14 00:24:01 <mjr_>	whatever
Feb 14 00:24:05 <mjr_>	it is super simple
Feb 14 00:24:06 <pigeons>	just listen for a few more months
Feb 14 00:24:09 <mjr_>	more demand, higher price
Feb 14 00:24:13 <pigeons>	nothing is simple
Feb 14 00:24:18 <mjr_>	right
Feb 14 00:24:26 <mjr_>	let's say i bought a million dollars of btc tonight
Feb 14 00:24:29 <mjr_>	no effect?
Feb 14 00:24:30 <jcpham>	Pigeons is correct in that regard
Feb 14 00:24:42 <pigeons>	yes it would have a temporary effect
Feb 14 00:24:46 <mjr_>	ok then
Feb 14 00:24:51 <mjr_>	let's say i did it every month
Feb 14 00:25:07 <mjr_>	would i have a "temporary" effect EVERY month
Feb 14 00:25:08 <jcpham>	We'd have a wild ride every day you do it
Feb 14 00:25:17 <pigeons>	1st off, why are you believing coinbase?
Feb 14 00:25:28 <mjr_>	well...
Feb 14 00:25:34 <mjr_>	they have a super high profile
Feb 14 00:25:40 <mjr_>	because of going through ycombinator
Feb 14 00:25:47 <jcpham>	I think a million at this point is a daily volatility spike
Feb 14 00:25:50 <jcpham>	At best
Feb 14 00:25:53 <mjr_>	yeah i agree
Feb 14 00:25:55 <aiball>	why are you not believing coin base?
Feb 14 00:26:02 <pigeons>	cause i know something
Feb 14 00:26:10 <mjr_>	so spread my million out over a month and do it every month
Feb 14 00:26:15 <jcpham>	Pigeons coinbase is on fire
Feb 14 00:26:16 <mjr_>	and you add a definite effect to the chart
Feb 14 00:26:22 <jcpham>	I do read HN
Feb 14 00:26:29 <aiball>	you know what?
Feb 14 00:26:32 <jcpham>	Those guys are getting bitcoin boners
Feb 14 00:26:35 <pigeons>	i know who they are
Feb 14 00:26:45 <mjr_>	um, their names are on their website
Feb 14 00:26:58 <pigeons>	not their names
Feb 14 00:27:06 <mjr_>	you know their souls?
Feb 14 00:27:10 <pigeons>	yeah
Feb 14 00:27:16 <mjr_>	lol\
Feb 14 00:27:20 <mjr_>	nice, i'm glad
Feb 14 00:27:22 <pigeons>	dont believe me, that's fine, just saying
Feb 14 00:27:27 <mjr_>	as long as they keep demand up i'm happy
Feb 14 00:27:30 <mjr_>	and if they don't
Feb 14 00:27:35 <mjr_>	i couldn't care less
Feb 14 00:27:36 <pigeons>	you arent happy, you wont be here next week
Feb 14 00:27:40 <aiball>	I've met one of them on a few occasions at SF bitcoin meet ups.  I looked into one of them's souls.  It was just like George and Putin
Feb 14 00:27:43 <jcpham>	So i stumbled into something here
Feb 14 00:27:50 <jcpham>	Carry on pigeons
Feb 14 00:27:58 <pigeons>	i'm done
Feb 14 00:28:00 <mjr_>	why would i not be here next week?
Feb 14 00:28:04 <Namworld>	Their souls... they be growin worms and bugs. Rotten to the core.
Feb 14 00:28:09 <knotwork>	mjr_ not just your million, also a million each from each of your "opponents" that don't want you to benefit more than they do from bitcoin's climb in value
Feb 14 00:28:13 <mjr_>	the price of bitcoin in the short term has nothing to do with me being here
Feb 14 00:28:17 <aiball>	What do you know pigson?
Feb 14 00:28:38 <pigeons>	that would be telling
Feb 14 00:29:08 <mjr_>	Knotwork: yeah, i get it, i'm not saying that they are the only ones...i'm just saying that the number of people who are getting into it is rising, they aren't the only big VC's who want in
Feb 14 00:29:25 <aiball>	do you know anything about s.dice?
Feb 14 00:29:30 <mjr_>	i see btc as worth thousands some day
Feb 14 00:29:39 <mjr_>	so whatever bumpy path we take to get there doesn't really matter
Feb 14 00:29:49 <mjr_>	i wouldn't mind a crash down to $2
Feb 14 00:29:55 <mjr_>	i would love to scoop them up
Feb 14 00:30:49 <mjr_>	i see mt gox fading in market share as local exchanges start doing better...coinbase is the first example and they suck as an exchange
Feb 14 00:31:23 <knotwork>	there are more and more "private" currencies, "community" currencies and so on that all face credibility issues of people doubting they really have enough something to back their currency with
Feb 14 00:31:33 <mjr_>	agreed
Feb 14 00:31:47 <mjr_>	however, bitcoin is the biggest of all of them, and the most widely used
Feb 14 00:31:47 <knotwork>	a lot of them want to have significant reserves of bitcoin as part of what they can credibly back their currency with
Feb 14 00:32:07 <knotwork>	but at current bitcoin price all the bitcoins there will ever be just arent enough to back it all
Feb 14 00:32:19 <mjr_>	yes...that is why the market pushes the price higher
Feb 14 00:32:19 <knotwork>	no bitcoin is not biggest in fact, its just most widely used
Feb 14 00:32:32 <knotwork>	some private ones are bigger, just much much less well known
Feb 14 00:32:42 <mjr_>	ok good for them
Feb 14 00:32:50 <knotwork>	as I said, several of them caught up to bitcoin then shot up past it skyrocketing
Feb 14 00:33:23 <knotwork>	so much so it just became less and less credible, leading them to be moving more and more now into gathering more bitcoins for their reserves
Feb 14 00:34:03 <mjr_>	so bitcoin is the reserve currency of the alternate crypto cash community
Feb 14 00:34:10 <mjr_>	i like that
Feb 14 00:35:00 <knotwork>	I think the biggest on my charts is actually bitnickels, because they are worth much more than 1/20th of a martian bitcoin yet there are 20 times as many of them as the 21 million most of the other coins have as their grand total ever number of coins
Feb 14 00:35:09 <mjr_>	i just think a tipping point is coming, one of many over its life, but i think you will see larger people find bitcoin on their radar now
Feb 14 00:35:39 <knotwork>	the theiry was that if there will be 20 times as many bitnickels as other coins they should be worth 1/20 of some other coin or average other coin
Feb 14 00:35:47 <mjr_>	makes sense
Feb 14 00:35:50 <knotwork>	but in practice it has not worked out that way
Feb 14 00:36:07 <mjr_>	litecoins are supposed to be "silver" to btc "gold"
Feb 14 00:36:28 <mjr_>	this is probably going to be necessary, but still simple market rules effect
Feb 14 00:36:34 <knotwork>	yeah but litecoin all kinds of nobodies are mining it and then dumping it dirt cheap
Feb 14 00:36:45 <mjr_>	price people want to pay vs. price people want to sell
Feb 14 00:37:09 <knotwork>	people dont want to pay more because tons of idiots are minting it and throwing it away dirt cheap
Feb 14 00:37:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.35 = 2.1 BTC [+]
Feb 14 00:37:30 <mjr_>	i meant bitcoins
Feb 14 00:37:34 <mjr_>	i only use bitcoins
Feb 14 00:37:45 <mjr_>	because i find that to be speculative enough for me
Feb 14 00:37:59 <knotwork>	well even bitcoins its the same, if people were not selling it so cheap people would pay more for it
Feb 14 00:38:05 <mjr_>	true
Feb 14 00:38:16 <mjr_>	so once those people who are willing to sell cheap HAVE sold
Feb 14 00:38:21 <mjr_>	there will be a jump
Feb 14 00:38:30 <mjr_>	as only people who won't sell cheap are left
Feb 14 00:38:52 <mjr_>	what you are saying is that supply will dwindle
Feb 14 00:38:57 <mjr_>	while demand increases
Feb 14 00:39:02 <knotwork>	part of problem with idea of using bitcoin as reserves is its worth hundreds per coin so one doesnt' want to use it as if its worth lessthan that when using it as reserves e.g. to buy back your IOUs
Feb 14 00:39:10 <mjr_>	because demand is definitely increasing using any metric you wish
Feb 14 00:39:36 <knotwork>	so, its hard to cash the IOUs for bitcoins due to issuers of IOUs issued them to avoid parting with bitcoins at insanely low bitcoin prices
Feb 14 00:39:42 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 00:39:43 <mjr_>	true
Feb 14 00:39:52 <mjr_>	but i see that as a good thing
Feb 14 00:40:01 <mjr_>	again, any tightening on supply is good
Feb 14 00:40:15 <mjr_>	any increase on demand is also good
Feb 14 00:40:18 <aiball>	people will gamble price irrelavent
Feb 14 00:40:27 <knotwork>	yes, it will be nice when all the cryptocoins that have a max number ever to be minted have minted all they ever will
Feb 14 00:40:30 <mjr_>	the point is that a lot of people are just market making
Feb 14 00:40:45 <knotwork>	then all those idiots miniong them and dumping them will be gone
Feb 14 00:40:45 <mjr_>	buying low and selling high
Feb 14 00:41:06 <mjr_>	i mean, as far as bitcoins is concerned there are only...
Feb 14 00:41:17 <aiball>	miners will always have bills to pay
Feb 14 00:41:29 <knotwork>	yeah we need lots of cryptocoin types so people can lots of buy low sell high without having to touch any fiat in the process
Feb 14 00:41:32 <mjr_>	;;calc 6*25*24 per day
Feb 14 00:41:32 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Feb 14 00:41:36 <mjr_>	;;calc 6*25*24
Feb 14 00:41:36 <gribble>	3600
Feb 14 00:41:40 <mjr_>	3600 per day
Feb 14 00:41:46 <mjr_>	not a lot in the grand scheme of things
Feb 14 00:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4568 @ 0.00065666 = 2.9996 BTC [+]
Feb 14 00:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2632 @ 0.00065806 = 1.732 BTC [+]
Feb 14 00:42:08 <mjr_>	and in four years, there will be even fewer mined coins flooding the market
Feb 14 00:43:04 <mjr_>	my personal opinion got from my ass is that we will see $40 before 2014
Feb 14 00:43:37 <mjr_>	with plenty of resistance levels and pullbacks along the way
Feb 14 00:44:33 <mjr_>	most notably being when we try to create a new lifetime high
Feb 14 00:45:02 <mjr_>	but to be honest, markets are very simple things...supply demand, buy sell
Feb 14 00:45:30 <mjr_>	they are only complex in the number of participants and those participants respective decision making processes
Feb 14 00:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064603 = 2.7915 BTC [-]
Feb 14 00:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8525 @ 0.00064583 = 5.5057 BTC [-]
Feb 14 00:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064361 = 4.8914 BTC [-]
Feb 14 00:49:05 <Namworld>	Fewer mined coins but still, the amount circulating is expanding.
Feb 14 00:49:25 <Namworld>	I don't see what justify this sudden increase
Feb 14 00:49:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4029 BTC [-]
Feb 14 00:49:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.403 = 1.612 BTC [+]
Feb 14 00:50:29 <mjr_>	higher demand?
Feb 14 00:50:39 <mjr_>	new services using bitcoin
Feb 14 00:50:49 <mjr_>	new services making it easier to get bitcoins
Feb 14 00:51:11 <mjr_>	new exclusive places that only accept bitcoin (gambling and SR)
Feb 14 00:51:32 <mjr_>	much more knowledge about bitcoins
Feb 14 00:51:34 <mjr_>	and articles
Feb 14 00:51:47 <mjr_>	demand is just outpacing supply, hence price rising
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Feb 14 00:52:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
Feb 14 00:53:09 <mjr_>	they are just getting more popular and well known, that is backed up by any metric you can use
Feb 14 00:53:16 <Namworld>	nah, sure, there's more businesses accepting bitcoins, but these don't pop over alltogether overnight
Feb 14 00:53:45 <mjr_>	google trends, SR items offered, SR users, subreddit users, # of articles with the word bitcoin...
Feb 14 00:54:11 <mjr_>	as each business finds some success...it signals that this is an opportunity
Feb 14 00:54:25 <mjr_>	which some entrepreneur then says ok, i'll get in, and the cycle repeats
Feb 14 00:54:31 <Namworld>	Long term, yes
Feb 14 00:54:54 <mjr_>	i am only thinking long term, but i would say that we have just gotten a huge influx of users and services all at once
Feb 14 00:55:05 <Namworld>	Bitcoin has been growing overall over the years... but there's no reason for that much increase since January.
Feb 14 00:55:20 <mjr_>	that is why i think coinbase in particular had such a strong effect
Feb 14 00:55:24 <Namworld>	As I said, short term I'm thinking 16-18 USD/BTC
Feb 14 00:55:26 <mjr_>	they had the backing
Feb 14 00:55:51 <mjr_>	and got a ton of press, and are doing a lot of business, since there is no way i would go to mt. gox and most others don't like that byzantine system
Feb 14 00:56:24 <mjr_>	i would say that mt. gox has been a limiting factor in some sense on bitcoin adoption
Feb 14 00:56:52 <mjr_>	obviously a huge resource and necessary, but seriously, there system is so complex and takes so long with so many fees
Feb 14 00:56:57 <mjr_>	*their
Feb 14 00:58:15 <mjr_>	so i just see any new place to get bitcoins, especially when they have the credibility of ycombinator and vc cash (600k those guys are not idiots, they must have some checks in place)
Feb 14 00:58:37 <mjr_>	i'm just saying what most US/tech silicon valley people would say
Feb 14 00:58:49 <mjr_>	very herd mentality
Feb 14 00:59:20 <mjr_>	so legit people who they know just put money in, they feel validated in trying it out, and the user interface is simple
Feb 14 01:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8354 @ 0.00064073 = 5.3527 BTC [-]
Feb 14 01:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1689 @ 0.00065806 = 1.1115 BTC [+]
Feb 14 01:00:27 <mjr_>	and i wish we were at 16-18
Feb 14 01:01:07 <mjr_>	but demand in this case is "non-linear"
Feb 14 01:01:27 <mjr_>	while supply is most definitely linear in the short term
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Feb 14 01:14:30 <mjr_>	lol, just saw the coolest thing ever
Feb 14 01:14:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00625 = 0.625 BTC [+]
Feb 14 01:14:37 <mjr_>	someone compared bitcoins to "indulgences"
Feb 14 01:15:07 <mjr_>	i guess that would be the first intangible artificial currency, its useful in heaven
Feb 14 01:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064697 = 2.7956 BTC [-]
Feb 14 01:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00064706 = 8.3794 BTC [+]
Feb 14 01:20:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.72500001 BTC [-]
Feb 14 01:25:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.725 = 1.45 BTC [-]
Feb 14 01:26:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Feb 14 01:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00616999 = 9.872 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 02:05:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.01 = 0.5 BTC [+]
Feb 14 02:06:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.35 = 1.75 BTC [+]
Feb 14 02:08:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 875 @ 0.00625 = 5.4688 BTC [+]
Feb 14 02:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 293 @ 0.00065807 = 0.1928 BTC [+]
Feb 14 02:10:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065854 = 6.5854 BTC [+]
Feb 14 02:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12219 @ 0.00065858 = 8.0472 BTC [+]
Feb 14 02:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5081 @ 0.00065858 = 3.3462 BTC [+]
Feb 14 02:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1023 @ 0.0006588 = 0.674 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 02:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3301 @ 0.00065958 = 2.1773 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 02:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6451 @ 0.00066002 = 4.2578 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 02:42:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00065736 = 4.5358 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 02:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1489 @ 0.00066098 = 0.9842 BTC [+]
Feb 14 02:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065024 = 2.8097 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 03:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064191 = 2.7737 BTC [+]
Feb 14 03:00:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6101 @ 0.00064172 = 3.9151 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 03:34:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8529 @ 0.00064308 = 5.4848 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 03:52:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064128 = 0.6413 BTC [-]
Feb 14 03:52:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063993 = 2.7651 BTC [-]
Feb 14 03:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7353 @ 0.00063992 = 4.7053 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 03:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20242 @ 0.00063992 = 12.9533 BTC [-]
Feb 14 03:58:43 <Bowjob>	i want a whale
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Feb 14 04:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10617 @ 0.00063992 = 6.794 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 04:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 14 04:51:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.96624, Best ask: 26.01999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05375, Last trade: 25.96624, 24 hour volume: 158444.85494761, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.05489
Feb 14 04:51:46 <mircea_popescu>	heh. wild times
Feb 14 04:51:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00067 BTC [-]
Feb 14 04:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	Anonymous
Feb 14 04:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	fuck you bitcoin i lost.
Feb 14 04:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol sweet tears
Feb 14 05:02:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006428 = 2.7775 BTC [+]
Feb 14 05:03:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4629 @ 0.00064308 = 2.9768 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 05:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4788 @ 0.00063992 = 3.0639 BTC [-]
Feb 14 05:09:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1762 @ 0.00063917 = 1.1262 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 05:21:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2559 @ 0.00063917 = 1.6356 BTC [-]
Feb 14 05:21:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5841 @ 0.00063916 = 3.7333 BTC [-]
Feb 14 05:22:54 <Namworld>	mircea: ?
Feb 14 05:23:04 <Namworld>	Did the guy with calls cash out already?
Feb 14 05:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/221/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-20-24-and/
Feb 14 05:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	that.
Feb 14 05:23:42 <Namworld>	oh. Lol
Feb 14 05:24:10 <mjr__>	what is the vwap at now?
Feb 14 05:24:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6009 @ 0.00063916 = 3.8407 BTC [-]
Feb 14 05:24:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12891 @ 0.000638 = 8.2245 BTC [-]
Feb 14 05:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 14 05:24:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.07000, Best ask: 26.07001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 26.07001, 24 hour volume: 158889.21035303, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.05851
Feb 14 05:24:51 <mjr__>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 14 05:24:52 <gribble>	25.01
Feb 14 05:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	25.05
Feb 14 05:24:58 <mircea_popescu>	somewhere there.
Feb 14 05:25:03 <mjr__>	ok cool
Feb 14 05:26:01 <mjr__>	options can be complicated enough without worrying about fx risk on top lol
Feb 14 05:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	"Yeah, yeah, I can tell you do not have a very highly developed capacity for abstract thinking -- developers do not necessarily care much about the design of things but often prioritize functionality, i. e. you are not my target market so go and play with some lego blocks, I am sure you will find them colorful and appealing."
Feb 14 05:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	dude totally.
Feb 14 05:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno why people keep ragging on mpoe-pr, she never says shit like that.
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Feb 14 05:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.btcguild.com/halloffame.php
Feb 14 05:35:34 <mircea_popescu>	o hey that guy is going well.
Feb 14 05:39:02 <mjr__>	mircea, do you think that coinbase could be a large part of this rally?
Feb 14 05:39:36 <mjr__>	they are pretty new and supposedly doing a ton of volume
Feb 14 05:39:41 <mjr__>	expanding the user base
Feb 14 05:40:13 <mircea_popescu>	possibru
Feb 14 05:40:18 <mjr__>	has to have some impact, i think it's a combination of them and the ton of news coming out about bitcoins
Feb 14 05:41:01 <mjr__>	i even think that it is possible that if they have halted sales due to demand, that they caused the dip
Feb 14 05:41:12 <mjr__>	but purely speculative
Feb 14 05:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it's driven by people trying to get on mpex.
Feb 14 05:41:29 <mjr__>	i mean a million dollars a month is not crazy, but i think it would move the market
Feb 14 05:41:43 <mjr__>	lol, s.dice is doing well for me right now
Feb 14 05:41:50 <mjr__>	but mpoe is undervalued i think
Feb 14 05:42:16 <mjr__>	i hold both
Feb 14 05:42:26 <mjr__>	but i look forward to the end of the month report
Feb 14 05:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	won't be long now
Feb 14 05:43:45 <mjr__>	yeah, can you believe that someone said to me on reddit (of course you can) that exchange rate has nothing to do with returns
Feb 14 05:43:53 <mjr__>	ie. you either hold S.DICE or you hold Bitcoins
Feb 14 05:44:37 <mjr__>	i'm like, you sell and buy S.DICE or S.MPOE using bitcoins, it's a way to grow your bitcoins, and the value of those bitcoins changes, so your total return when measured in dollars is a function of both effects
Feb 14 05:45:19 <mircea_popescu>	well, people think that s.dice betting volumes are somehow related to bitcoin price
Feb 14 05:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	this may or may not be true. if you look at the graphs there's no relation so far.
Feb 14 05:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	but maybe because other factors drowned it out and will be more apparent in the future.
Feb 14 05:47:03 <mjr__>	true
Feb 14 05:47:36 <mjr__>	but that does not change the fact that when measured in USD, your total return is still a function of price of bitcoins and price of shares + dividends
Feb 14 05:47:56 <mjr__>	same on any stock exchange when you are in a different country
Feb 14 05:48:17 <mjr__>	if i buy japanese stocks on nikei, i have to also account for yen/usd exchange
Feb 14 05:48:40 <mjr__>	anyway, if i am expecting financial savvy on reddit, i should get my head checked
Feb 14 05:49:00 <mircea_popescu>	this is true.
Feb 14 05:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	on all counts lol
Feb 14 05:49:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0242 BTC [+]
Feb 14 05:50:28 <mjr__>	http://www.universa.net/ check out this site, the first message is amazingly true
Feb 14 05:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00064308 = 1.1254 BTC [+]
Feb 14 05:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	i get http://www.adobe.com/images/shared/download_buttons/get_flash_player.gif
Feb 14 05:52:30 <mjr__>	lol, yeah, it is a flash heavy site
Feb 14 05:52:34 <mjr__>	but the first quote is...
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Feb 14 05:53:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1962 @ 0.00064308 = 1.2617 BTC [+]
Feb 14 05:53:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3238 @ 0.00064399 = 2.0852 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 05:54:20 <mjr__>	There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.
Feb 14 05:54:43 <mjr__>	it's the hedge fund that nassim taleb works at
Feb 14 05:55:02 <mjr__>	i just finished antifragile, and i think it is a great book, i just wonder if he is aware of bitcoins
Feb 14 05:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	he's prolly right.
Feb 14 05:56:01 <mjr__>	that was a quote from ludwig von mises
Feb 14 05:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	i think the bitcoin gambit currently is to try and persuade some hedge fund people.
Feb 14 05:56:14 <mjr__>	that is what i am working on
Feb 14 05:56:21 <mjr__>	because that will change everything
Feb 14 05:56:28 <mjr__>	if you can bridge wall st and bitcoins
Feb 14 05:56:48 <mjr__>	you can first of all get a rally up to $100 if capital starts pouring in
Feb 14 05:56:57 <mjr__>	and second of all gain legitimacy as they are behind it
Feb 14 05:57:07 <wao>	http://bitbet.us/bet/153/s-mpoe-will-rise-this-spring/
Feb 14 05:57:07 <mjr__>	since they have washington in their pocket
Feb 14 05:57:59 <mjr__>	my original plan was to get a public company with bitcoins as assets
Feb 14 05:58:11 <mjr__>	but i would have to do a reverse merger for that and buy a public company
Feb 14 05:58:16 <mjr__>	so might be too hard
Feb 14 05:58:34 <mjr__>	so now i am looking at a slower approach to start a hedge fund type deal
Feb 14 05:59:06 <mjr__>	i already convinced the CEO of my company and he is meeting with some Forex guys and is going to see if they could offer a product using bitcoins
Feb 14 05:59:37 <mjr__>	at some point, people on wall st will realize that instead of gold, bitcoins are a much better opportunity against the dollar
Feb 14 05:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	they're realising.
Feb 14 05:59:54 <mjr__>	at that point, there will be an influx of capital that has never been seen in bitcoin
Feb 14 05:59:57 <mjr__>	they are
Feb 14 05:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	a bunch of mpex traders are actually traders.
Feb 14 06:00:00 <mjr__>	i agree
Feb 14 06:00:02 <mjr__>	i know
Feb 14 06:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	this has been going on for a while by now.
Feb 14 06:00:17 <mjr__>	i know that a lot of people in this field are in finance
Feb 14 06:00:21 <mjr__>	but they do this on their own
Feb 14 06:00:26 <mjr__>	soon, it will be financial companies
Feb 14 06:00:38 <mjr__>	and at that point, we will see a ton of demand all at once
Feb 14 06:00:41 <mjr__>	in my opinion
Feb 14 06:01:09 <mjr__>	egypt, argentina, venezuela etc.
Feb 14 06:01:17 <mjr__>	fiat currencies are failing hard
Feb 14 06:01:49 <mjr__>	and today i realized that our system is not tried and proven, it is very very new, we only adopted this in the US in 1971
Feb 14 06:02:03 <mjr__>	so it is still an experiment, having money not backed by any asset
Feb 14 06:02:54 <mjr__>	if someone could start an ETF that tracks bitcoins, that would change everything, that is what i was trying to do, but it is hard
Feb 14 06:03:18 <mjr__>	getting it publicly available would cost like 50k, and that is just basically a setup fee
Feb 14 06:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	so why's that hard ?
Feb 14 06:04:08 <mjr__>	well...you get no return on that 50k
Feb 14 06:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	all you need is someone start a general partnership with a few tens of mils from a dozen friends
Feb 14 06:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	and it's done
Feb 14 06:04:28 <mjr__>	well yeah
Feb 14 06:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	prolly happen this year, too.
Feb 14 06:04:38 <mjr__>	if i had a few tens of mills it would be done already
Feb 14 06:05:00 <mjr__>	its easy, you let people buy a bitcoin backed ETF with their etrade accounts
Feb 14 06:05:06 <mjr__>	they have a hedge against the dollar
Feb 14 06:05:08 <mjr__>	inflation proof
Feb 14 06:05:15 <mjr__>	and currently yielding great returns
Feb 14 06:05:33 <mjr__>	just a tiny fraction of the money on wall street could quadruple the "market cap" of bitcoin
Feb 14 06:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	o no
Feb 14 06:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	this would not be open to the masses for a decade at least.
Feb 14 06:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	you have to understand the "for people" attitude internet dweebs immediately paint over bitcoin is nothing of any consequence
Feb 14 06:06:29 <mircea_popescu>	they do it because that's all their experience allows.
Feb 14 06:06:35 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise, bitcoin is strictly for the elite.
Feb 14 06:06:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1083 @ 0.00064399 = 0.6974 BTC [+]
Feb 14 06:06:44 <mjr__>	well yeah
Feb 14 06:06:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15102 @ 0.000644 = 9.7257 BTC [+]
Feb 14 06:06:49 <mjr__>	but if you have a publicly traded stock
Feb 14 06:06:52 <mjr__>	anyone can buy it
Feb 14 06:06:55 <mircea_popescu>	but you don't.
Feb 14 06:07:03 <mjr__>	yeah :( not yet
Feb 14 06:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	you get a closed partnership with a billion under management
Feb 14 06:07:14 <mjr__>	that is a nice way to do it too
Feb 14 06:07:16 <mircea_popescu>	why bother offer it to the public ? the incentives just aren't there
Feb 14 06:07:23 <mjr__>	but i really want to offer it to the public
Feb 14 06:07:33 <mircea_popescu>	i guess you do, but that's neither here nor there.
Feb 14 06:07:35 <mjr__>	so that everyone, even old people who don't understand, can get exposure
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Feb 14 06:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	old people that don't understand shouldn't get exposure.
Feb 14 06:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	actually : they should *not* get exposure.
Feb 14 06:08:13 <mjr__>	well
Feb 14 06:08:20 <mjr__>	i don't want to see us recreate the current system
Feb 14 06:08:28 <mjr__>	but just put ourselves in positions of power
Feb 14 06:08:39 <mjr__>	i want to see everyone enjoy this new change
Feb 14 06:08:44 <mjr__>	or at least have the option to
Feb 14 06:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	dude. somebody who doesn't understand does not and can not have a position of power.
Feb 14 06:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	they'll just hurt themselves.
Feb 14 06:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00616999 = 5.553 BTC [+]
Feb 14 06:11:09 <mjr__>	well not power
Feb 14 06:11:24 <mjr__>	but i want to make it easier for them to get exposure to the bitcoin economy
Feb 14 06:11:36 <mjr__>	without having to actually get involved
Feb 14 06:11:40 <mjr__>	similar to gold ETF
Feb 14 06:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Feb 14 06:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	this is a bad idea.
Feb 14 06:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	getting involved is a guarantee they put the effort into understanding.
Feb 14 06:12:05 <mjr__>	well, not if they just buy shares using investment account
Feb 14 06:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	if they can't be bothered to do that, there's no reason to suspect they won't hurt themselves.
Feb 14 06:12:14 <mjr__>	true
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Feb 14 06:12:22 <mjr__>	but i think the option should be there
Feb 14 06:12:35 <mjr__>	so that anyone can actually have a portfolio with publicly traded shares
Feb 14 06:12:44 <mjr__>	that touches the world of bitcoins
Feb 14 06:13:26 <mjr__>	so, whether it is a hedge fund or a public company or an etf
Feb 14 06:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	anyone currently can
Feb 14 06:13:35 <mjr__>	i think something along those lines is coming
Feb 14 06:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	for 30 btc and a little gpg knowledge.
Feb 14 06:13:40 <mjr__>	:)
Feb 14 06:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1115 @ 0.00064459 = 0.7187 BTC [+]
Feb 14 06:13:49 <mjr__>	gpg is also going to be huge
Feb 14 06:13:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2385 @ 0.000638 = 1.5216 BTC [-]
Feb 14 06:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	it literally takes the average knowledgeable person 1 hour to go from holding some fiat to holding some btc stocks.
Feb 14 06:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	now, that they'e not knowledgeable is ok, but should be fixed there,
Feb 14 06:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	not at thios other end
Feb 14 06:14:15 <mjr__>	but also, i think it is so funny that someone tried to do the idea in reverse
Feb 14 06:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean ?
Feb 14 06:14:33 <mjr__>	a hedge fund wanted to raise btc so they could convert it out of btc and put it into the stock market
Feb 14 06:14:46 <mjr__>	they were on twitter called btchedgefund or something
Feb 14 06:15:06 <mjr__>	https://twitter.com/BTCHedgeFund
Feb 14 06:15:09 <mjr__>	so backwards
Feb 14 06:15:17 <mjr__>	let me take your btc and put it into dollars
Feb 14 06:15:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064498 = 2.787 BTC [+]
Feb 14 06:15:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1179 @ 0.000645 = 0.7605 BTC [+]
Feb 14 06:15:41 <mjr__>	going to grab a smoke brb
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Feb 14 06:22:40 <mjr__>	it's funny though, my friend who i work with is so impressed with nomura because they use pgp
Feb 14 06:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 534 @ 0.000638 = 0.3407 BTC [-]
Feb 14 06:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063796 = 2.7566 BTC [-]
Feb 14 06:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6773 @ 0.00063795 = 4.3208 BTC [-]
Feb 14 06:22:54 <mjr__>	he was like that is the future, they really have their shit together
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Feb 14 06:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__  ya that's nonsense
Feb 14 06:28:02 <mjr__>	what is?
Feb 14 06:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	also often these are simply scams.
Feb 14 06:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	the backwards
Feb 14 06:28:12 <mjr__>	yeah for sure
Feb 14 06:32:59 <mjr__>	one of the things that i take away from all that i've experienced in bitcoins is that if you expect scams, you are safer than getting blindsided by "mortgage-back securities" or credit default swaps
Feb 14 06:33:08 <mjr__>	the key is to know the risk and the downside
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Feb 14 06:38:55 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully at least.
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Feb 14 06:57:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063805 = 2.757 BTC [+]
Feb 14 06:57:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1179 @ 0.00063795 = 0.7521 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 07:26:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064481 = 2.7862 BTC [+]
Feb 14 07:26:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.000645 = 3.3263 BTC [+]
Feb 14 07:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64 @ 0.00063797 = 0.0408 BTC [-]
Feb 14 07:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00063796 = 1.0207 BTC [-]
Feb 14 07:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063796 = 2.7566 BTC [-]
Feb 14 07:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9932 @ 0.00063795 = 6.3361 BTC [-]
Feb 14 07:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00063754 = 1.1686 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 07:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3564 @ 0.000645 = 2.2988 BTC [+]
Feb 14 07:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064598 = 2.7913 BTC [+]
Feb 14 07:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7783 @ 0.00064599 = 5.0277 BTC [+]
Feb 14 07:52:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00067 = 0.067 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 07:59:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 232 @ 0.0095 = 2.204 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 08:05:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3817 @ 0.00064599 = 2.4657 BTC [+]
Feb 14 08:05:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064785 = 1.069 BTC [+]
Feb 14 08:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065143 = 2.8148 BTC [+]
Feb 14 08:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3212 @ 0.00065143 = 2.0924 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 08:10:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064094 = 2.7695 BTC [-]
Feb 14 08:10:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00064072 = 0.3069 BTC [-]
Feb 14 08:13:19 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143972.msg1526968#msg1526968
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Feb 14 08:17:07 <ThickAsThieves>	heh I almost linked that
Feb 14 08:17:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont remember seeing this before: http://www.gambling911.com/businessfinancial/major-us-facing-online-gambling-site-confirms-bitcoin-implemenation-012813.html
Feb 14 08:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064609 = 2.7918 BTC [+]
Feb 14 08:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20829 @ 0.0006459 = 13.4535 BTC [-]
Feb 14 08:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1109 @ 0.00064668 = 0.7172 BTC [+]
Feb 14 08:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8320 @ 0.00064699 = 5.383 BTC [+]
Feb 14 08:33:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2900 @ 0.006 = 17.4 BTC [-]
Feb 14 08:33:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92OBNsQgxU
Feb 14 08:34:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0062799 = 1.884 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 08:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000646 = 2.7914 BTC [-]
Feb 14 08:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.0006459 = 4.1848 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 08:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.0006459 = 11.0449 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 09:03:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064664 = 2.7941 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064669 = 2.7943 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:03:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8230 @ 0.00064699 = 5.3247 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:03:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00065144 = 6.7098 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16493 @ 0.0006527 = 10.765 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:03:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00065403 = 11.6417 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1435 @ 0.00065464 = 0.9394 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:04:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i have a feeling it's gonna be a wild day
Feb 14 09:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	here you go mjr__ : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-rarge-part-of-this-lally/
Feb 14 09:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	you're now famous
Feb 14 09:07:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00064591 = 1.5502 BTC [-]
Feb 14 09:07:12 <wao>	wuah
Feb 14 09:09:06 <jurov>	Nomura Securities copies MPEx after a year and a half… yeah here we go
Feb 14 09:11:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1921 @ 0.00064591 = 1.2408 BTC [-]
Feb 14 09:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9842 @ 0.0006459 = 6.3569 BTC [-]
Feb 14 09:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6137 @ 0.00064246 = 3.9428 BTC [-]
Feb 14 09:11:40 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Feb 14 09:11:45 <EskimoBob>	lol
Feb 14 09:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	but it's the fact. first financial institution to use gpg ? mpex.
Feb 14 09:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	porn & buttcoinz drive innovation irl.
Feb 14 09:12:38 <EskimoBob>	I bet they do not even know this insignificant fuck even exists
Feb 14 09:14:18 <EskimoBob>	and in other news: scumbag mp claims to be the inventor of gpg
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Feb 14 09:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064253 = 2.7764 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10547 @ 0.00064246 = 6.776 BTC [-]
Feb 14 09:27:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13319 @ 0.00064072 = 8.5337 BTC [-]
Feb 14 09:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4213 @ 0.00063888 = 2.6916 BTC [-]
Feb 14 09:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00063888 = 10.9568 BTC [-]
Feb 14 09:31:55 <mjr__>	honored to be cited...lol
Feb 14 09:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1424 @ 0.00065464 = 0.9322 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 09:32:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/18313.html#18346 that is actually pretty good.
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Feb 14 09:36:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:37:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1041 @ 0.00065464 = 0.6815 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:37:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065484 = 2.8296 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:37:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5507 @ 0.00065485 = 3.6063 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6231 @ 0.00065494 = 4.0809 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:49:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064741 = 2.7975 BTC [-]
Feb 14 09:49:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12679 @ 0.00064744 = 8.2089 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 09:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.news.com.au/technology/massive-google-security-flaw-puts-users-details-on-display-for-all-to-find/story-e6frfro0-1226577210852
Feb 14 09:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	google pulls a mtgox.
Feb 14 09:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064719 = 2.7965 BTC [-]
Feb 14 09:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11439 @ 0.00064744 = 7.4061 BTC [+]
Feb 14 09:55:22 <kakobrekla>	http://patakk.tumblr.com/zef
Feb 14 09:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	nothing there ?
Feb 14 09:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://25.media.tumblr.com/e1307953d79b9c1a6ed4233436ef77f8/tumblr_mgog6jAtha1qc0s10o1_500.gif ?
Feb 14 09:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.examiner.com/article/eu-recession-as-robin-hood-tax-begins?cid=rss
Feb 14 09:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 14 09:59:53 <kakobrekla>	its there
Feb 14 09:59:58 <kakobrekla>	just need a newer browser
Feb 14 10:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065491 = 2.8299 BTC [+]
Feb 14 10:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9446 @ 0.00065494 = 6.1866 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 10:15:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12474 @ 0.00065494 = 8.1697 BTC [+]
Feb 14 10:17:08 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 14 10:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063679 / 0.00064677 / 0.00066098 (1409926 shares, 911.90 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00065584 / 0.0007 (18889176 shares, 12,388.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066251 / 0.0007 (73333145 shares, 48,584.03 BTC)
Feb 14 10:18:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3907 @ 0.00065268 = 2.55 BTC [-]
Feb 14 10:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063895 = 2.7609 BTC [-]
Feb 14 10:18:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2263 @ 0.00063888 = 1.4458 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 10:29:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064482 = 2.7863 BTC [+]
Feb 14 10:29:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.00064504 = 7.1787 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 10:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064336 = 1.0615 BTC [-]
Feb 14 10:35:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006389 = 2.7607 BTC [-]
Feb 14 10:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10429 @ 0.00063888 = 6.6629 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 10:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45 @ 0.00063888 = 0.0287 BTC [-]
Feb 14 10:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063755 = 2.7549 BTC [-]
Feb 14 10:40:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21817 @ 0.00063754 = 13.9092 BTC [-]
Feb 14 10:40:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15667 @ 0.00063654 = 9.9727 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 10:42:27 <DeadWeasel>	bouncy bitcoin.  a lot of hungry mouths were waiting for that drop.
Feb 14 10:42:29 <DeadWeasel>	ate it up
Feb 14 10:44:42 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap deadweasel
Feb 14 10:44:43 *	gribble slaps deadweasel with a coagulated case
Feb 14 10:44:45 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 14 10:44:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.86297, Best ask: 25.89910, Bid-ask spread: 0.03613, Last trade: 25.86297, 24 hour volume: 147093.07547354, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.00466
Feb 14 10:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L3KU5eiEBo
Feb 14 10:44:54 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 14 10:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	his mudder was a modder!
Feb 14 10:44:55 <gribble>	24.96
Feb 14 10:45:12 <DeadWeasel>	mircea_popescu: at work, no videos.  already use webIRC to get around blocks.
Feb 14 10:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	seinfeld.
Feb 14 10:45:51 <DeadWeasel>	still having fun on SA i hope?
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Feb 14 10:46:22 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Feb 14 10:46:24 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221145 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 614 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 15 hours, 11 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3474257.66998 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.06916
Feb 14 10:47:06 <kakobrekla>	BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st;
Feb 14 10:47:07 <kakobrekla>	Confirmed bets:
Feb 14 10:47:08 <kakobrekla>	99
Feb 14 10:47:10 <kakobrekla>	1 moar!
Feb 14 10:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/18313.html
Feb 14 10:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	enjoy lol
Feb 14 10:47:26 <DeadWeasel>	kakobrekla: you mine?
Feb 14 10:47:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063679 = 2.7516 BTC [+]
Feb 14 10:47:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1093 @ 0.00063659 = 0.6958 BTC [-]
Feb 14 10:47:46 <kakobrekla>	ya a fpga is running somewhere in the house
Feb 14 10:47:53 <kakobrekla>	rest is gone
Feb 14 10:48:21 <DeadWeasel>	i'll take that as a yes, mircea_popescu
Feb 14 10:48:32 <DeadWeasel>	what do you make with your FPGA?
Feb 14 10:48:59 <kakobrekla>	noise
Feb 14 10:49:23 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/x/v5/oRgSUuC/img9233.jpg
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Feb 14 10:50:04 <DeadWeasel>	well, at least you're producing
Feb 14 10:50:47 <kakobrekla>	i keep it as a joke.
Feb 14 10:51:08 <kakobrekla>	might as well go solo.
Feb 14 10:51:21 <kakobrekla>	with that 260mhash
Feb 14 10:51:34 <DeadWeasel>	one day you might get a block,.
Feb 14 10:52:08 <DeadWeasel>	I get 171 with a ati 6770, but it's not worth it.
Feb 14 10:52:27 <kakobrekla>	just 171?
Feb 14 10:52:35 <kakobrekla>	i got 250 from 5770
Feb 14 10:52:39 <kakobrekla>	back in the day
Feb 14 10:52:40 <jcpham>	feel free to stalk my wasting of electric: http://mining.three41.net/
Feb 14 10:52:42 <DeadWeasel>	5770s are way betta
Feb 14 10:52:54 <DeadWeasel>	6770s just have a higher number.
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Feb 14 10:52:59 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Feb 14 10:53:06 <jcpham>	passive 7870's sound elite to me
Feb 14 10:53:17 <jcpham>	a rig box full of passive cooled gpus
Feb 14 10:53:24 <kakobrekla>	i had a passive nvidia running at 105 degrees C for years
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Feb 14 10:57:32 <kakobrekla>	bitdaytrade : Today at 12:09:28 PM : Go troll somewhere else. I'm working hard to raise the necessary funds. Very positive news are on the horizon.
Feb 14 10:57:33 <kakobrekla>	rofl.
Feb 14 10:59:43 <mircea_popescu>	ugm
Feb 14 10:59:49 <mircea_popescu>	you're not serious are you !?
Feb 14 11:00:11 <kakobrekla>	i am, alberto isnt.
Feb 14 11:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 14 11:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny how scammers always have very positive news on the horison
Feb 14 11:02:24 <kakobrekla>	>>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140366.msg1527172#msg1527172
Feb 14 11:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like gambling addicts/failed acresses
Feb 14 11:02:42 <kakobrekla>	poor eskimo, would hurt too much to write "you area right", he writes "you are not wrong"
Feb 14 11:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha good1
Feb 14 11:08:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064484 = 2.7864 BTC [+]
Feb 14 11:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6171 @ 0.00064504 = 3.9805 BTC [+]
Feb 14 11:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5149 @ 0.00065494 = 3.3723 BTC [+]
Feb 14 11:08:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10409 @ 0.00065622 = 6.8306 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 11:18:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.006 = 0.066 BTC [-]
Feb 14 11:20:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3228 @ 0.00063659 = 2.0549 BTC [-]
Feb 14 11:20:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8372 @ 0.00063654 = 5.3291 BTC [-]
Feb 14 11:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3891 @ 0.00065622 = 2.5534 BTC [+]
Feb 14 11:25:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065629 = 2.8358 BTC [+]
Feb 14 11:25:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49 @ 0.0006563 = 0.0322 BTC [+]
Feb 14 11:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 9 @ 0.99 = 8.91 BTC [+]
Feb 14 11:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
Feb 14 11:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065609 = 2.835 BTC [-]
Feb 14 11:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.0006563 = 1.9223 BTC [+]
Feb 14 11:42:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/132330.html
Feb 14 11:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	apparently llewellyn didn't much care for this week's reality tv
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Feb 14 11:51:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3399 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 11:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063676 = 2.7514 BTC [-]
Feb 14 11:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2629 @ 0.00063654 = 1.6735 BTC [-]
Feb 14 11:55:12 <Bugpowder>	fuck this shit
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Feb 14 11:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 14 11:55:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.42000, Best ask: 26.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 26.40901, 24 hour volume: 147397.72847532, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.02041
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Feb 14 11:58:56 <mod6>	Bugpowder: what up?
Feb 14 12:03:29 <Bugpowder>	btc
Feb 14 12:07:57 <Garr255_Lappy>	hey all. you can now invest in Cognitive with LTC :) https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/COGNITIVE-PT
Feb 14 12:09:32 <kakobrekla>	and by invest you mean lose money with?
Feb 14 12:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker cognitive-pt
Feb 14 12:13:26 <assbot>	Your actions are useless.
Feb 14 12:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	mkay
Feb 14 12:18:34 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap Garr255_Lappy
Feb 14 12:18:35 *	gribble slaps Garr255_Lappy with a guileful earth
Feb 14 12:19:33 <Garr255_Lappy>	kakobrekla, let me know when mining stock, not bonds, becomes unprofitable.
Feb 14 12:19:45 <kakobrekla>	im letting you know now.
Feb 14 12:20:03 <Garr255_Lappy>	back up your words with math please
Feb 14 12:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064002 = 2.7655 BTC [+]
Feb 14 12:20:19 <kakobrekla>	wheres that bug chart
Feb 14 12:22:30 <mjr__>	is there a crossed quote on mpoe?
Feb 14 12:31:38 <mircea_popescu>	0.00064089	4`321
Feb 14 12:31:38 <mircea_popescu>	4`321	0.00063996
Feb 14 12:31:40 <mircea_popescu>	neh ?
Feb 14 12:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063996 = 2.7653 BTC [-]
Feb 14 12:31:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00063967 = 1.8416 BTC [-]
Feb 14 12:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	Garr255_Lappy you got a graph of cognitive price somewhere ?
Feb 14 12:33:24 <Garr255_Lappy>	mircea_popescu yes, https://btct.co/security/COGNITIVE
Feb 14 12:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00063967 = 4.6696 BTC [-]
Feb 14 12:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	how do i make that show something like a year ?
Feb 14 12:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	(can i?)
Feb 14 12:34:33 <DeaDTerra>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1527549#msg1527549
Feb 14 12:34:39 <DeaDTerra>	ASICMINER are now up and mining :)
Feb 14 12:34:42 <DeaDTerra>	Fuck the haters!
Feb 14 12:34:55 <DeadWeasel>	DeaDTerra: nice, glad to hear it
Feb 14 12:35:03 <ThickAsThieves>	yeeuh
Feb 14 12:35:11 <kakobrekla>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=R5mMRiiCwak
Feb 14 12:35:20 <DeaDTerra>	2Thash live and 10 more coming this batch
Feb 14 12:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064037 = 2.767 BTC [+]
Feb 14 12:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064046 = 2.7674 BTC [+]
Feb 14 12:41:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2158 @ 0.00064052 = 1.3822 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 12:44:31 <leflor>	mircea_popescu warren buffet is going to buy mpex for 1 billion dollars
Feb 14 12:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think so.
Feb 14 12:44:51 *	leflor is now known as thestringpuller
Feb 14 12:45:15 <thestringpuller>	haha
Feb 14 12:45:36 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 27
Feb 14 12:45:38 <gribble>	There are currently 13428.315 bitcoins offered at or under 27.0 USD, worth 360232.300725 USD in total.
Feb 14 12:45:46 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 30
Feb 14 12:45:47 <gribble>	There are currently 34633.742 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 974142.854562 USD in total.
Feb 14 12:46:27 <thestringpuller>	mining gold is only profitable for so long
Feb 14 12:46:33 <thestringpuller>	so there will be much hate to go around
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Feb 14 12:54:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0181 BTC [-]
Feb 14 12:54:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.018 = 1.8 BTC [-]
Feb 14 12:54:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.0154 = 0.2156 BTC [-]
Feb 14 12:54:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 200 @ 0.0153 = 3.06 BTC [-]
Feb 14 12:54:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 150 @ 0.0152 = 2.28 BTC [-]
Feb 14 12:54:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 43 @ 0.0152 = 0.6536 BTC [-]
Feb 14 12:54:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.0151 = 0.755 BTC [-]
Feb 14 12:54:33 <kakobrekla>	heres some milk for mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143962.0
Feb 14 12:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	i r get milk ?
Feb 14 12:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	i shou;d prolly link that from mpex main page just for lulz.
Feb 14 12:55:59 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin is self destructive.
Feb 14 12:56:10 <kakobrekla>	it says.
Feb 14 12:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla bitcoin is backed by lulz and drama!
Feb 14 12:56:30 <kakobrekla>	no wonder price is so high.
Feb 14 12:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	and we all know those self feed and replicate
Feb 14 12:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	so it can only go the way of the butt : upupup
Feb 14 12:57:22 <kakobrekla>	is never to high to buy and never too low to sell
Feb 14 12:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	it's never too tight and never too deep
Feb 14 12:58:04 <kakobrekla>	it can be too big.
Feb 14 12:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, i don't have the full range of sensual experiences.
Feb 14 12:58:34 <kakobrekla>	well, thats what she said.
Feb 14 12:58:36 <jurov>	no matter how deep, no matter how hiiiigh
Feb 14 12:58:47 <jurov>	nono nononono nonono limiiit
Feb 14 13:05:20 <mod6>	they're beating up on MPEx in bitcoin-otc...
Feb 14 13:05:34 <mod6>	more nonsense about how "bad" teh website is lol
Feb 14 13:07:53 <mod6>	(10:04) < FonziScheme> we're talking about the website, mod6. get over it
Feb 14 13:07:56 <mod6>	(10:05) <+mod6> hahaha
Feb 14 13:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Feb 14 13:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	newfags in #bitcoin-newfags having opinions and shit.
Feb 14 13:08:51 <mod6>	these dumbshits sit in there and talk all kinds of trash.  at some point I usually jump in and tell 'em what idiots they are.
Feb 14 13:09:06 <mod6>	this is one of those moments
Feb 14 13:09:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;gettrust fonzischeme
Feb 14 13:09:26 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user fonzischeme: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=fonzischeme
Feb 14 13:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Feb 14 13:09:59 <mod6>	(10:05) < FonziScheme> but if you want to discuss how crappy the CLI scripty is, we can do that
Feb 14 13:10:02 <mod6>	(10:06) <+mod6> you want to dog on my code, feel free.
Feb 14 13:10:04 <mod6>	(10:06) <+mod6> asswipe
Feb 14 13:10:07 <mod6>	(10:06) < FonziScheme> wow. simma down.
Feb 14 13:10:10 <mod6>	(10:06) < FonziScheme> panties, meet bunch.
Feb 14 13:10:25 <mod6>	(10:07) <+mod6> then stop talking shit about stuff you don't understand FonziScheme
Feb 14 13:10:28 <mod6>	(10:07) < FonziScheme> stop claiming no one understands it, mod5
Feb 14 13:10:33 <pigeons>	fonzischeme may be under fbastage or reliablesource
Feb 14 13:10:46 <pigeons>	he's been on my ignore for a year
Feb 14 13:10:48 <mod6>	ahh, he's mildly retarded
Feb 14 13:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	wait.
Feb 14 13:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	20450	fbastage	18	mircea_popescu	2013-02-11 17:33:47	-2	spammer and megalomaniac.
Feb 14 13:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	this dude ?
Feb 14 13:11:08 <pigeons>	yes same guy
Feb 14 13:11:29 <mircea_popescu>	fucking hell all these people talking about me that i don;t even know.
Feb 14 13:11:31 <mod6>	well, that doesn't shock me in the least then. he has an axe to grind.
Feb 14 13:11:45 <mircea_popescu>	at least ver WANTS to be a celebrity.
Feb 14 13:13:34 <mod6>	they think they can just do 2minutes hate everyday and I wont call 'em out
Feb 14 13:13:39 <mod6>	fuck that shit
Feb 14 13:14:03 <mircea_popescu>	mr mod6enstein
Feb 14 13:14:06 <mod6>	(10:01) <+Scrat> neofutur: i dont care about validation either but MPOE is the worst website ive seen since geocities
Feb 14 13:14:14 <mod6>	(10:04) <+mod6> What MPEx is, is not a website.  I'm not sure why people fail to understand that.  It doesn't even really need a damn website.
Feb 14 13:14:17 <mod6>	(10:04) <+mod6> lol
Feb 14 13:14:33 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: ;)
Feb 14 13:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	any connection between these fine folks and the douches embroiled in the "highest valued currency" wiki revert war ?
Feb 14 13:15:08 <mod6>	I think there might be.
Feb 14 13:15:30 <mod6>	I don't follow in there quite close enough these days.
Feb 14 13:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	well since mpoe-pr is trolling stripper forums i kinda lost track of reddit
Feb 14 13:15:57 <mod6>	haha
Feb 14 13:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	tho in honesty is was a productive move. more lol.
Feb 14 13:16:12 <mod6>	i bet that is moar lulz
Feb 14 13:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, who's controlled-evaporating otc these days ?
Feb 14 13:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	since rg's unfortunate irl job and everything
Feb 14 13:17:26 <mod6>	seriously, its a bunch of dudes who even have neg ratings as oppers.
Feb 14 13:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	o.0
Feb 14 13:18:50 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it successfully evaporated.
Feb 14 13:18:53 <mod6>	one day last week (I forget who it was for now) there was someone op'd and I was like "WAH HOW DID DA SCAMMERZ GET OPZ?!"
Feb 14 13:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube ^
Feb 14 13:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	you about ready to purge the bitcoin-otc oplist or give it moar time ?
Feb 14 13:19:21 <mod6>	but... i guess they need some monitoring in there and there isnt a ton of trusted people left to do the job.
Feb 14 13:20:48 <mod6>	521 active nicks in the channel, so that's up about 100
Feb 14 13:21:02 <mod6>	which is good. but man, there are some real dumbasses who think they run that show.
Feb 14 13:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	i don't even remember what it used to be last year.
Feb 14 13:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	396, 693, 936, something
Feb 14 13:22:26 <imsaguy>	neg ratings aren't always a bad thing.  neg ratings from an idiot source really aren't neg ratings.
Feb 14 13:22:38 <mod6>	when I seem to check every now and then it seems to typically hover around 400-450
Feb 14 13:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	that's true.
Feb 14 13:22:48 <imsaguy>	the whole point of otc is that you go by your web of trust
Feb 14 13:22:54 <imsaguy>	not some stupid sum number
Feb 14 13:23:02 <mod6>	imsaguy: I'm with you there.  I need to find who I was talking about... the guy srsly looked like he had some scammer ratings.
Feb 14 13:23:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2594 @ 0.00063967 = 1.6593 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063655 = 2.7505 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:23:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6085 @ 0.00063654 = 3.8733 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:23:22 <imsaguy>	;;getrating imsaguy
Feb 14 13:23:22 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User imsaguy, rated since Tue Aug  2 16:24:18 2011. Cumulative rating 318, from 132 total ratings. Received ratings: 124 positive, 8 negative. Sent ratings: 124 positive, 39 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=imsaguy
Feb 14 13:23:26 <imsaguy>	8 negatives
Feb 14 13:23:32 <imsaguy>	most are trolls
Feb 14 13:23:42 <imsaguy>	half weren't active more than a week
Feb 14 13:23:57 <mod6>	*nod*
Feb 14 13:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy who was at some point negative total so the rule about rating with negative had to be reverted ?
Feb 14 13:24:04 <imsaguy>	most were because people don't/didn't understand how ratings work
Feb 14 13:24:09 <kakobrekla>	o you also have a +10 from PH
Feb 14 13:24:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063671 = 2.7512 BTC [+]
Feb 14 13:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6242 @ 0.00063654 = 3.9733 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:24:26 <imsaguy>	kakobrekla: exactly, it all depends on who you trust, not hte absolute
Feb 14 13:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla im sure he has pirate + too, it's how scamming works, you suck up to people.
Feb 14 13:25:00 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: me? no.
Feb 14 13:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	he didn't rate you !?
Feb 14 13:25:12 <imsaguy>	;;gettrust imsaguy pirateat40
Feb 14 13:25:14 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user imsaguy to user pirateat40: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 6 via 33 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=imsaguy&dest=pirateat40
Feb 14 13:25:18 <mircea_popescu>	the other way around silly.
Feb 14 13:25:27 <imsaguy>	thats why I asked.
Feb 14 13:25:40 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure pirate rated everyone
Feb 14 13:25:51 <imsaguy>	I'm surprised my L2 to pirate is still positive
Feb 14 13:25:54 <mod6>	it seriosly could have been Anduck i'm talking about
Feb 14 13:25:57 <imsaguy>	;;getrating pirateat40
Feb 14 13:25:57 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User pirateat40, rated since Mon Aug  1 14:18:45 2011. Cumulative rating -125, from 89 total ratings. Received ratings: 55 positive, 34 negative. Sent ratings: 65 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40
Feb 14 13:26:02 <kakobrekla>	rating whores are a problem.
Feb 14 13:26:02 <mod6>	*seriously
Feb 14 13:26:18 <imsaguy>	kakobrekla, I used to be one.
Feb 14 13:26:24 <pigeons>	mod6: probably starsoccer
Feb 14 13:26:35 <imsaguy>	The first few negatives take care of that though.
Feb 14 13:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	haha Keefe has one too
Feb 14 13:26:49 <imsaguy>	;;getrating keefe
Feb 14 13:26:49 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Keefe, rated since Mon Nov  8 10:37:04 2010. Cumulative rating 606, from 212 total ratings. Received ratings: 212 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 221 positive, 7 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Keefe
Feb 14 13:26:52 <mod6>	pigeons: AHHH yeah
Feb 14 13:26:55 <mod6>	thats who it was.
Feb 14 13:27:04 <mod6>	im like WTF is this guy doing with ops.
Feb 14 13:27:07 <pigeons>	starsoccer doesn't know that he's a scammer
Feb 14 13:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 anduck was the guy coming here ocasionally asking me like why im trusted and shit no ?
Feb 14 13:27:14 <mod6>	yeah.
Feb 14 13:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	seemed harmless kid rly.
Feb 14 13:27:28 <mod6>	he's just a random guy with 1 bad rating... might be somewhat superficial.
Feb 14 13:27:31 <mod6>	yeah
Feb 14 13:27:34 <imsaguy>	many of the people with ops in there atm aren't on the access list
Feb 14 13:27:38 <imsaguy>	like me for example
Feb 14 13:27:47 <imsaguy>	so we're faking
Feb 14 13:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	how does that work ?
Feb 14 13:28:01 <imsaguy>	well, if I leave and come back, I won't have ops from chanserv
Feb 14 13:28:04 <imsaguy>	I have to ask another op
Feb 14 13:28:10 <kakobrekla>	you just do /nick @imsaguy
Feb 14 13:28:13 <imsaguy>	if nanotube leaves and comes back, chanserv can/will give him ops
Feb 14 13:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	o o i see what you mean
Feb 14 13:28:20 <imsaguy>	kakobrekla, not if you're not on the access list
Feb 14 13:28:30 <kakobrekla>	i kid i kid, that doesnt work even.
Feb 14 13:28:43 <mod6>	oh so someone just does like /op imsaguy
Feb 14 13:28:45 <imsaguy>	/op $nick does ;)
Feb 14 13:28:51 <imsaguy>	mod6, exactly
Feb 14 13:28:55 <mod6>	instead of telling ChanServ to hook you up
Feb 14 13:28:57 <mod6>	got it.
Feb 14 13:29:06 <imsaguy>	I'm too emotional with the bans sometimes
Feb 14 13:29:10 <imsaguy>	so its good I'm not on the list
Feb 14 13:29:15 <imsaguy>	ban first, ask questions never
Feb 14 13:29:19 <mod6>	haha
Feb 14 13:29:27 <mircea_popescu>	the entire banningthing is nonsense.
Feb 14 13:29:37 <imsaguy>	perhaps
Feb 14 13:29:40 <imsaguy>	but it does feel good
Feb 14 13:29:42 <imsaguy>	:-x
Feb 14 13:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Feb 14 13:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	this chan is noban, it works fine. my chan is +m, works fine
Feb 14 13:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	the stuff in between tho, with the banning... not so fine.
Feb 14 13:30:04 <mod6>	it does get the point across to trolls with limited reach -- for everything else there's SupaDupa
Feb 14 13:30:19 <imsaguy>	mod6, we fixed that though
Feb 14 13:30:23 <imsaguy>	just takes persistance
Feb 14 13:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 so gives idiot kids an incentive to read up on supaduping
Feb 14 13:30:24 <mod6>	oh! sweet.
Feb 14 13:30:36 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy i thought freenode finally got their shit together ?
Feb 14 13:30:46 <imsaguy>	well, we're talking two different things
Feb 14 13:30:52 <imsaguy>	he was making tons of fake otc accounts
Feb 14 13:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	a
Feb 14 13:31:04 <imsaguy>	I would catch those almost as quickly as he made them
Feb 14 13:31:09 <imsaguy>	freenode and the assbot were something else
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Feb 14 13:31:14 <imsaguy>	not this assbot
Feb 14 13:31:18 <imsaguy>	the ass script
Feb 14 13:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	goatse
Feb 14 13:31:23 <imsaguy>	aye
Feb 14 13:31:24 <mod6>	haha
Feb 14 13:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	poor assbot
Feb 14 13:31:39 <mircea_popescu>	he's the assets assistant!
Feb 14 13:31:39 <assbot>	 wanna goatse?
Feb 14 13:31:40 *	imsaguy kicks assbot
Feb 14 13:31:52 <assbot>	 hey im sensitive.
Feb 14 13:31:58 <imsaguy>	no mod/ban channels work
Feb 14 13:32:01 <imsaguy>	#bitcoin-mining has been
Feb 14 13:32:06 <imsaguy>	then again, its mainly dead these days
Feb 14 13:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	well since luke sold his btc for 25
Feb 14 13:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	no point in it  anymore
Feb 14 13:32:36 <imsaguy>	it was back when people were trying to figure out gpumining
Feb 14 13:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which
Feb 14 13:32:47 <imsaguy>	now that the settings are pretty tried and true and almost obsolete
Feb 14 13:32:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Feb 14 13:32:51 <gribble>	Time since last block: 12 minutes and 42 seconds
Feb 14 13:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	how do we know avalons/asicminers aren't premining a huge chain!
Feb 14 13:33:32 <imsaguy>	because they're just mining
Feb 14 13:33:37 <imsaguy>	avalon is lost in space
Feb 14 13:33:40 *	x0xMaximus has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
Feb 14 13:33:40 <pigeons>	cause it would work out better for them to just mine honestly
Feb 14 13:33:40 *	x0xMaximus_ is now known as x0xMaximus
Feb 14 13:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	ya but never underestimate.
Feb 14 13:34:22 <mircea_popescu>	seems suspicious as all hell, weeks after everyonedelivered network is still humming at 25.
Feb 14 13:34:37 <imsaguy>	huh?
Feb 14 13:34:41 <imsaguy>	;;diffchange
Feb 14 13:34:42 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 6.19499 % based on data since last change | 10.21154 % based on data for last three days
Feb 14 13:34:45 <pigeons>	they just turned em up today really
Feb 14 13:34:51 <imsaguy>	yesterday
Feb 14 13:35:18 <imsaguy>	12TH is only like 50% of current network
Feb 14 13:35:24 <imsaguy>	which means they only have 33% of combined
Feb 14 13:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	that guy with the 1th was there since like the 12th neh ?
Feb 14 13:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	at btcguild
Feb 14 13:35:32 <imsaguy>	assuming full throttle
Feb 14 13:35:39 <imsaguy>	its up and down
Feb 14 13:35:49 <imsaguy>	probably dealing with heat and internet connection issues
Feb 14 13:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	ya. th mining requires some stuff other than power plug.
Feb 14 13:36:30 <imsaguy>	especially on older hardwear like theirs
Feb 14 13:36:33 <imsaguy>	ware*
Feb 14 13:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	the one thing that becomes interesting now is of course useful life.
Feb 14 13:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	if a set mines at 12th on average for 500 hours and then pops
Feb 14 13:36:51 <imsaguy>	it'll be interesting to see where things settle
Feb 14 13:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	well.... that's not gonna be much
Feb 14 13:37:11 <imsaguy>	;;genrate 12000000
Feb 14 13:37:12 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 12000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3275464.58657, is 1842.44953278 BTC per day and 76.7687305327 BTC per hour.
Feb 14 13:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	if they spike us up and then their gear dies early in a recalc cycle it'll be nasty.
Feb 14 13:37:21 <imsaguy>	lol
Feb 14 13:37:33 <imsaguy>	;;calc 500/24*1842.44953278
Feb 14 13:37:34 <gribble>	38384.3652662
Feb 14 13:37:44 <imsaguy>	500 hours would be fine.
Feb 14 13:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	not for the network tho.
Feb 14 13:37:54 <imsaguy>	they only spent 20000 for it
Feb 14 13:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	we'll be stuck with 25gh doing 5mn blocks
Feb 14 13:38:20 <imsaguy>	avalon is coming
Feb 14 13:38:21 <imsaguy>	bfl is coming
Feb 14 13:38:29 <imsaguy>	it wouldn't be for too long that we'd be 'stuck'
Feb 14 13:38:35 <imsaguy>	and right now, its only 1th anyway
Feb 14 13:38:36 <mircea_popescu>	well, a coupla weeks
Feb 14 13:38:40 <imsaguy>	not a real big deal
Feb 14 13:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	enough for everyone to scream bloody murder
Feb 14 13:38:53 <imsaguy>	gotta have something to bitch about
Feb 14 13:38:57 <imsaguy>	if not that, it'd be something else.
Feb 14 13:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	definitely.
Feb 14 13:39:02 <mod6>	heh
Feb 14 13:39:04 <imsaguy>	don't even try to fool yourself :p
Feb 14 13:39:27 <imsaguy>	ok, its time to go stick my head in a meat grinder.
Feb 14 13:39:31 <imsaguy>	enjoy the rest of your day/evening.
Feb 14 13:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	upload vids.
Feb 14 13:39:48 <mod6>	c-ya imsaguy
Feb 14 13:39:54 <kakobrekla>	better be a live stream
Feb 14 13:39:58 <kakobrekla>	or you'll get shit.
Feb 14 13:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	scamming meat grinder vid.
Feb 14 13:41:31 <imsaguy>	well you know, I am pirateat40
Feb 14 13:41:42 *	imsaguy derps
Feb 14 13:41:49 <mod6>	dude, I think that maybe you were the first person that sold me BTC.
Feb 14 13:41:53 <mod6>	so for that, I thank you :)
Feb 14 13:42:09 <imsaguy>	haha, I broke a lot of cherries back in the day
Feb 14 13:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	who's that forum kid that keeps reporting on like, what pirate did in his hood
Feb 14 13:42:20 <imsaguy>	bcb
Feb 14 13:42:23 <Diablo-D3>	pirate never existed
Feb 14 13:42:23 <imsaguy>	I gotta jet, I'm late
Feb 14 13:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	a right
Feb 14 13:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	girl usually notes him down as pcp
Feb 14 13:42:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.031 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:42:45 <mod6>	haha
Feb 14 13:43:08 <mod6>	he actually one a 10 BTC bet on over 26 USD by Noon EST today.
Feb 14 13:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	then a while back i referred to someone by her byname instead of their handle
Feb 14 13:43:12 <mod6>	*won
Feb 14 13:43:14 <mircea_popescu>	so i threw a shitfit
Feb 14 13:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	now she's adding * to the "not his real handle" nicks
Feb 14 13:44:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00066 = 0.0033 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:45:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.006 = 0.024 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:45:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1011 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:46:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.332 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 13:46:49 <mjr_>	ugh, reddit is bumming me out
Feb 14 13:47:03 <mod6>	just hang on irc then, less hassle?
Feb 14 13:47:07 <mjr_>	true
Feb 14 13:47:12 <mjr_>	i mean, so dumb though
Feb 14 13:47:17 <mjr_>	don't understand FX Risk
Feb 14 13:47:20 <mjr_>	forward contracts
Feb 14 13:47:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 49 @ 0.01 = 0.49 BTC [+]
Feb 14 13:47:39 <mod6>	yeah, this stuff is pretty far beyond most people who use the internet on a daily basis.
Feb 14 13:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	why would they ?
Feb 14 13:47:43 <mjr_>	"if the price of bitcoins doubles, the price of S.DICE halves"
Feb 14 13:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	if you made a risk you didn't make that risk.
Feb 14 13:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	also, business.
Feb 14 13:48:10 <mjr_>	i'm like OH that is why every single stock on NYSE moves the same direction at the same time
Feb 14 13:48:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 14 13:48:24 <mjr_>	yes, but you get forward contracts or options to guarantee and hedge
Feb 14 13:48:28 <mircea_popescu>	actually mjr_, these days it pretty much does
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Feb 14 13:48:36 <mjr_>	well, not for me at least
Feb 14 13:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	bernanke helicopters a trillion funbux into "economy"
Feb 14 13:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	all pres howls about how "record new index soars!!11"
Feb 14 13:48:56 <mjr_>	i'm up 6 or 7% on S.DICE
Feb 14 13:49:05 <mjr_>	and up 25% on BTC
Feb 14 13:49:26 <mjr_>	so my total gain when measured in dollars is a combo of the two effects
Feb 14 13:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	you got in late, ipo people are up like whatever, 80% on s.dice and 300% on btc
Feb 14 13:49:31 <mjr_>	i'm not saying there is NO correlation
Feb 14 13:49:40 <mjr_>	yeah of course
Feb 14 13:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	hum interesting correlation!
Feb 14 13:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 6.5/25
Feb 14 13:50:00 <gribble>	0.26
Feb 14 13:50:04 <mjr_>	but still...these returns are great and that's before i have ever even received dividends
Feb 14 13:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 8/30.0
Feb 14 13:50:07 <gribble>	0.266666666667
Feb 14 13:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	dude
Feb 14 13:50:12 <mircea_popescu>	DUDE!
Feb 14 13:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder are you copying this ?
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Feb 14 13:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	how long you been in mjr_ ?
Feb 14 13:51:01 <mjr_>	beginning of feb
Feb 14 13:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc .66 / 26
Feb 14 13:51:02 <gribble>	0.0253846153846
Feb 14 13:51:09 <Bugpowder>	wut?
Feb 14 13:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	so 5 months and 2 weeks converges to like 0.02!
Feb 14 13:51:17 <pigeons>	paper profits
Feb 14 13:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	this is totally ponzi.
Feb 14 13:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	there is just no way.
Feb 14 13:51:42 <mjr_>	0.0057 is what i got S.DICE for
Feb 14 13:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	as smooth as 16yo bikini wax
Feb 14 13:52:12 <mjr_>	;;ticker
Feb 14 13:52:12 <Bugpowder>	.0034
Feb 14 13:52:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.33672, Best ask: 26.36438, Bid-ask spread: 0.02766, Last trade: 26.30110, 24 hour volume: 143473.69366734, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.67000, 24 hour vwap: 25.03657
Feb 14 13:52:16 <Bugpowder>	http://imgur.com/a/EsExY
Feb 14 13:52:24 <mjr_>	yeah, if only i had gotten in then
Feb 14 13:52:32 <Bugpowder>	It was up to 4x till last night's bounce :(
Feb 14 13:52:38 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 14 13:52:39 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 13:53:05 <mjr_>	but that position is up...i got the bitcoins on average for 21.22 so that position is up
Feb 14 13:53:16 <mjr_>	so i am up in total by the combination of the two
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Feb 14 13:53:37 <mjr_>	also...how can people retroactively go back and make their bets smaller because bitcoins are worth more now?
Feb 14 13:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ what's your exit point ? or didn't establuish in advance ?
Feb 14 13:53:44 <mjr_>	revenue is revenue
Feb 14 13:53:47 <mjr_>	buy and hold
Feb 14 13:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Feb 14 13:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	well, there's this theory that people will bet less if btc are worth more.
Feb 14 13:54:11 <mjr_>	yes, that is true
Feb 14 13:54:13 <mjr_>	over the long run
Feb 14 13:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	cause well... gamblers are rational people and everything
Feb 14 13:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	i can totally see it.
Feb 14 13:54:21 <mjr_>	but they already bet and that is already his revenue
Feb 14 13:54:32 <mjr_>	so my tiny fraction of that revenue is already mine in dividends
Feb 14 13:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	yes, for the current month. but past months are water under the bridge far as you're concerned
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Feb 14 13:54:54 <mjr_>	they can't change that now
Feb 14 13:55:07 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 14 13:55:08 <mjr_>	true
Feb 14 13:55:09 <mjr_>	my point is that for february
Feb 14 13:55:17 <mod6>	upwards and onwards though!
Feb 14 13:55:20 <mjr_>	i hope to get 3% on my position
Feb 14 13:55:26 <mjr_>	i am happy with that
Feb 14 13:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	well if you want to look art it this way, i was making bets on diff this year as far back as aug/sept 2012
Feb 14 13:55:41 <mjr_>	as opposed to just taking the ride on btc, i am basically doubling down my bet
Feb 14 13:55:52 <mjr_>	nice
Feb 14 13:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	100 btc bet then worth like 700 or w/e, 200 btc won now worth like 5k ?
Feb 14 13:55:58 <mjr_>	they pay off well?
Feb 14 13:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 14 13:56:08 <mjr_>	i also hold MPOE
Feb 14 13:56:13 <mjr_>	which is down from where i bought it
Feb 14 13:56:18 <mjr_>	even though btc is up
Feb 14 13:56:24 <mircea_popescu>	people would take things like "diff will be under 50mn" at even money etc.
Feb 14 13:56:25 <mjr_>	again, the two are not the same
Feb 14 13:56:38 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 14 13:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1005 @ 0.00063655 = 0.6397 BTC [+]
Feb 14 13:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2805 @ 0.00063654 = 1.7855 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063654 = 3.1827 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:56:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11190 @ 0.00063653 = 7.1228 BTC [-]
Feb 14 13:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	remember, back in aug and even sept peoplethought bfl delivers 1st batch in oct
Feb 14 13:57:02 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 13:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	and by "thought" i mean swore their babies on
Feb 14 13:57:22 <mod6>	yeah. there were massive bets and everything iirc.
Feb 14 13:57:23 <mjr_>	i am not at all interested in mining hardware speculation, if they deliver they deliver
Feb 14 13:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	i was mostly into it to hedge
Feb 14 13:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	which worked out ok.
Feb 14 13:57:40 <mjr_>	yeah smart move
Feb 14 13:57:53 <TomServo>	You getting a Dell?
Feb 14 13:58:00 <mod6>	haha
Feb 14 13:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Feb 14 13:58:22 *	TomServo is retarded.  Please ignore.
Feb 14 13:58:25 <mjr_>	so my point is that the revenue they bring in and the dividends they pay is way more likely to change the share price than the price of btc at the moment
Feb 14 13:58:34 <mod6>	its a joke from the Dell commericals
Feb 14 13:58:41 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ right.
Feb 14 13:58:42 <mjr_>	dell is being taken private
Feb 14 13:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	because it sucks ?
Feb 14 13:58:55 <mjr_>	btc/usd could affect that but that remains to be seen
Feb 14 13:59:00 <mjr_>	lol i think so
Feb 14 13:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	i never quite understood this taking private business.
Feb 14 13:59:27 <mjr_>	buying back all its shares
Feb 14 13:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	i know what it means
Feb 14 13:59:35 <mjr_>	i know
Feb 14 13:59:36 <mircea_popescu>	i never understood the sense of it.
Feb 14 13:59:43 <mjr_>	oh, i love the idea
Feb 14 13:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	give me an example of a corp where it worked.
Feb 14 13:59:49 <mod6>	they must have some awful shit on the books, or they couldn't get it to an attractive price for a buyer, otherwise why take it private?
Feb 14 13:59:53 <mjr_>	no more worrying about what analysts have to say
Feb 14 14:00:02 <mjr_>	you can think long term
Feb 14 14:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 i suspect they have some wicked tax avoidance idea they'll tery
Feb 14 14:00:10 <mjr_>	without worrying about pissing people off every quarter
Feb 14 14:00:31 <mjr_>	public companies divorce the interest of the company from the interest of the owner
Feb 14 14:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	not if they're well managed.
Feb 14 14:00:59 <mjr_>	ie. it may be best to invest ahead of the growth curve for a while, take a loss, for future gain
Feb 14 14:01:02 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: could be. lot of companies upped their dividened payments before the end of '12 to front-run the up coming tax hikes.
Feb 14 14:01:18 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 yah.
Feb 14 14:01:22 <mjr_>	but convincing joe six pack that you know best about servers or the tech market is too tough
Feb 14 14:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	boy that disaster is gonna smart.
Feb 14 14:01:28 <mjr_>	they want to see pretty green arrows
Feb 14 14:01:48 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ it's not like joe six pack has sotck money
Feb 14 14:01:51 <mjr_>	hehehe
Feb 14 14:01:53 <mjr_>	good point
Feb 14 14:01:57 <mjr_>	maybe 401k
Feb 14 14:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	but self directed ?
Feb 14 14:02:14 <mjr_>	maybe
Feb 14 14:02:17 <mjr_>	i know a lot who do
Feb 14 14:02:20 <mjr_>	but then again it is nyc
Feb 14 14:02:21 <mircea_popescu>	negligible of total.
Feb 14 14:02:32 <mjr_>	even so
Feb 14 14:02:48 <mjr_>	how many times have i seen a company BEAT earnings and STILL get smoked
Feb 14 14:02:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol actually
Feb 14 14:03:01 <mjr_>	lame
Feb 14 14:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	netflix beat earnings and it went up 908534905034%
Feb 14 14:03:06 <mjr_>	to try to cater to a fickle market
Feb 14 14:03:09 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 14 14:03:13 <mjr_>	but aapl beat
Feb 14 14:03:20 <mjr_>	and went down like $50
Feb 14 14:03:34 <mjr_>	i personally wouldn't bet on direction
Feb 14 14:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, netflix didn't have every hipster tard on their wagon
Feb 14 14:03:41 <mjr_>	get a straddle and just play the volatility
Feb 14 14:03:43 <mircea_popescu>	much to their benefit.
Feb 14 14:04:15 <mjr_>	still though, i sold a record # of widgets...ok you suck, we don't want your stock
Feb 14 14:04:21 <mjr_>	but i made more money than you expected
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Feb 14 14:04:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4410 @ 0.00063653 = 2.8071 BTC [-]
Feb 14 14:04:27 <mjr_>	i don't care, sell sell sell
Feb 14 14:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9826 @ 0.00063601 = 6.2494 BTC [-]
Feb 14 14:04:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2514 @ 0.000636 = 1.5989 BTC [-]
Feb 14 14:04:36 <iz>	netflix also secured big exclusive contracts with 2 major studios in the future
Feb 14 14:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ the key is if they find a new jobs. they don't, they're dead.
Feb 14 14:04:46 <mjr_>	irrational markets, focused on short term
Feb 14 14:04:48 <mod6>	AMZN beat (barely iirc) and it went up a bunch too -- until the following week where exuberance dropped. I think traders were spooked by the -1.0% GDP print... and any good earnings news was like "heaven sent"
Feb 14 14:05:08 <mjr_>	yeah...that is my point, a private company doesn't worry about spooking anybody
Feb 14 14:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	iz that's a good point yes
Feb 14 14:05:13 <mjr_>	you do what you want
Feb 14 14:05:15 <iz>	there's more data there, than just the earnings
Feb 14 14:05:17 <mjr_>	what you think is best
Feb 14 14:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	prolly larger impact than the few cents
Feb 14 14:05:31 <iz>	so if it seems "irrational", maybe it's just that you haven't seen all the data everyone else has
Feb 14 14:05:35 <mjr_>	wall street is like a bunch of whiny spoiled children
Feb 14 14:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	iz i was using that example deliberately :)
Feb 14 14:05:52 <mjr_>	yeah...the prop traders i see...they are super inside
Feb 14 14:06:08 <iz>	well, i'm glad i could help illustate your point there then :D
Feb 14 14:06:10 <mjr_>	they are scalping and playing around, they have no idea of fundamentals
Feb 14 14:06:20 <mjr_>	they are riding the emotions of others
Feb 14 14:06:29 <mjr_>	to make a penny or two
Feb 14 14:06:35 <mjr_>	just like an algorithm
Feb 14 14:06:40 <mjr_>	which doesn't care about any of that
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Feb 14 14:06:59 <mjr_>	i think everyone gives these people WAY too much credit
Feb 14 14:07:14 <mjr_>	herd mentality
Feb 14 14:07:51 <mjr_>	in fact, some of them just buy and sell at the same price just to make liquidity rebates
Feb 14 14:08:06 <mjr_>	they could literally not care less about what the company does
Feb 14 14:08:36 <mjr_>	institutional investors are different
Feb 14 14:08:53 <mjr_>	they are a lot smarter, but still, driven by emotion to some degree
Feb 14 14:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure i dig this entire reason/emotion debate.
Feb 14 14:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	reason and emotion use the same circuitry but different heuristics is all
Feb 14 14:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	not really as fundamentally different as people paint em
Feb 14 14:13:51 <mjr_>	eh
Feb 14 14:13:53 <mjr_>	just saying
Feb 14 14:13:59 <mjr_>	selling because you see red is dumb
Feb 14 14:14:06 <mjr_>	and i see a lot of people do that
Feb 14 14:14:18 <mjr_>	it is counter to normal
Feb 14 14:14:23 <mjr_>	when many are selling you should buy
Feb 14 14:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	well, it's that intelligent markets theory or w/e
Feb 14 14:14:29 <mjr_>	and when many are buying you should sell
Feb 14 14:14:49 <mjr_>	i have seen people call up to check a position
Feb 14 14:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	advisors are actually telling people like stanford to sell when price goes down, and the more it goes down the more to sell
Feb 14 14:14:53 <mircea_popescu>	then rebuy when it's back up
Feb 14 14:14:58 <mjr_>	and i say you want me to flatten it?
Feb 14 14:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	and they get paid $$$ for this
Feb 14 14:15:09 <mjr_>	that is my point
Feb 14 14:15:17 <mjr_>	the people will say no...don't sell
Feb 14 14:15:28 <mjr_>	they wait till they lose their profit and are down and then they sell
Feb 14 14:15:42 <mjr_>	because you want to own something that is profitable and you don't want to own something that is down
Feb 14 14:15:47 <mjr_>	exactly opposite of what you should do
Feb 14 14:15:54 <mjr_>	which is buy low sell high
Feb 14 14:16:10 <mjr_>	i'm down 4% on MPOE, i am going to double my position
Feb 14 14:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, you don't know if it ever recovers is their idea
Feb 14 14:16:34 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 14:16:44 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... sure, i made money long on LEH
Feb 14 14:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	but... most people'd have been ill advised to buy it
Feb 14 14:17:02 <mjr_>	but what they end up doing is buying at the top of the hill and selling at the bottom
Feb 14 14:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	depends. some things actually go out. that's why i picked leh.
Feb 14 14:17:20 <mjr_>	cuz they get scared
Feb 14 14:17:25 <mjr_>	yeah true
Feb 14 14:17:27 <mircea_popescu>	and at that time, citi and boa seemed primed for the same fate iirc.
Feb 14 14:17:32 <mjr_>	they did
Feb 14 14:17:41 <mjr_>	even goldman had rumors of failure
Feb 14 14:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	and jpm
Feb 14 14:17:48 <mjr_>	yep
Feb 14 14:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	which was funny, at the time
Feb 14 14:17:51 <mjr_>	jpm was way closer
Feb 14 14:18:05 <mjr_>	i'm actually reading "too big to fail" right now
Feb 14 14:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	cause "everyone" knew if it comes to it fed is going to pick jpm to save
Feb 14 14:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	if all banks default or something.
Feb 14 14:18:25 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 14:18:33 <mjr_>	bailout was a very dirty word back then
Feb 14 14:18:38 <mjr_>	should still be IMO
Feb 14 14:18:48 <mjr_>	bankers are scumbags
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Feb 14 14:19:05 <mjr_>	for the most part, no offense to any bankers
Feb 14 14:19:15 *	mircea_popescu goes all nostalgic checks out prices for freddie and fannie
Feb 14 14:19:28 <mjr_>	but seriously, you get the upside, we get the downside
Feb 14 14:19:32 <mjr_>	great work if you can get it
Feb 14 14:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	both .3
Feb 14 14:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Feb 14 14:21:33 <mjr_>	hehehe, it is fun trying to front run people :)
Feb 14 14:22:38 <mjr_>	love jumping in front of a wall
Feb 14 14:22:47 <mjr_>	by the way, bitfloor is my new favorite exchange
Feb 14 14:22:48 <mjr_>	i love it
Feb 14 14:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	let me save that in my directory.
Feb 14 14:25:23 <mjr_>	i got my money in there in a half hour with no ID, and i think a $2 fee
Feb 14 14:26:05 <DeadWeasel>	nice, i just reg'd last night.  didn't have time to explore.
Feb 14 14:26:18 <mjr_>	the bank of america option is the way to go
Feb 14 14:26:21 <mjr_>	if you have one by you
Feb 14 14:26:24 <DeadWeasel>	i do.
Feb 14 14:26:27 <mjr_>	literally half hour
Feb 14 14:26:32 <DeadWeasel>	but they are open when I am at work.
Feb 14 14:26:41 <mjr_>	and roman who runs it emailed me when i asked how long within 5 min
Feb 14 14:26:43 <DeadWeasel>	close at 4 assholes
Feb 14 14:26:51 <mjr_>	lol yeah
Feb 14 14:26:53 <mjr_>	bankers hours
Feb 14 14:26:58 <DeadWeasel>	shithead hours
Feb 14 14:27:06 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 14:27:10 <mjr_>	also...nice big spreads
Feb 14 14:27:15 <mjr_>	i'm just market making for fun right now
Feb 14 14:27:19 <DeadWeasel>	yeah, i will look more tonight.
Feb 14 14:27:28 <mjr_>	think it's like a .35 spread
Feb 14 14:27:34 <DeadWeasel>	good security?  safe to keep btc there?
Feb 14 14:27:48 <DeadWeasel>	you know, a working amount?
Feb 14 14:27:50 <mjr_>	don't know
Feb 14 14:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel they had a breach and currently owe the customerbase btc
Feb 14 14:28:01 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 14 14:28:03 <DeadWeasel>	oh my
Feb 14 14:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	so, i wouldn't keep btc there. but if you're ok with the risk, hey.
Feb 14 14:28:16 <DeadWeasel>	well, i'll just watch for now, thanks mircea_popescu
Feb 14 14:28:23 <mjr_>	yeah, i don't know if i will leave btc overnight
Feb 14 14:28:35 <mjr_>	but, the guy is trying to pay back at least
Feb 14 14:28:41 <mjr_>	and i think he has started
Feb 14 14:28:45 <DeadWeasel>	i mean, Gox got hit hard.
Feb 14 14:28:49 <DeadWeasel>	but this is way after that
Feb 14 14:28:52 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 14:28:53 <DeadWeasel>	when was bitfloor?
Feb 14 14:29:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://gizmodo.com/5940507/bitcoin-exchange-bitfloor-suspends-operations-following-250k-hacker-heist
Feb 14 14:29:29 <mjr_>	i mean, for me...i can drop off cash on the corner, have it in the account in a half hour, get PAID to trade (liquidity rebates) and don't have to use Mt. Gox (best reason)
Feb 14 14:30:03 <mjr_>	so, maybe a little riskier, but also i've emailed the guy and erik said he is a good guy, so i feel somewhat comfortable with it
Feb 14 14:30:20 <mjr_>	not that he vouched in any way
Feb 14 14:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	he IS a good guy
Feb 14 14:30:23 <DeadWeasel>	I'm a good guy, send me btc
Feb 14 14:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	he did some open source stuff, whiz kid
Feb 14 14:30:35 <mjr_>	yeah, his platform is nice
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Feb 14 14:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	but prudential is what it is.
Feb 14 14:30:42 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 14:30:54 <mjr_>	i kinda want to help bring volume for many reasons
Feb 14 14:31:06 <mjr_>	he will be able to pay back if he collects more revenue
Feb 14 14:31:22 <mjr_>	i think having 80% of volume go through mt.gox is insane
Feb 14 14:31:29 <mjr_>	he is local and doesn't require id
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Feb 14 14:31:37 <mjr_>	and he gives liquidity rebates...
Feb 14 14:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ it's not the case.
Feb 14 14:31:47 <mjr_>	handles FIX messages in his API
Feb 14 14:31:55 <mjr_>	well ID to withdraw cash
Feb 14 14:31:57 <mjr_>	i think
Feb 14 14:32:02 <mjr_>	but i can drop off anonymously
Feb 14 14:32:06 <mjr_>	and i have no interest in cash
Feb 14 14:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	mt gox has something like over half, i think
Feb 14 14:32:20 <mjr_>	oh they advertise 80%
Feb 14 14:32:47 <mjr_>	well...to be fair they say july 2011
Feb 14 14:32:50 <mjr_>	but still
Feb 14 14:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Feb 14 14:33:00 <mjr_>	i think a bunch of small local exchanges is better for the ecosystem
Feb 14 14:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	this is true
Feb 14 14:33:11 <mjr_>	and i find their limits and fees onerous
Feb 14 14:33:20 <mjr_>	their process is byzantine to me
Feb 14 14:33:38 <mjr_>	i don't understand the voucher system and why we need an extra layer of annoyance
Feb 14 14:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	im curious how the recent bitcoinica drama will unfold.
Feb 14 14:34:47 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 14:34:54 <mjr_>	always drama in bitcoinland
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Feb 14 14:35:10 <mjr_>	has anyone used camp bx? they also look really good
Feb 14 14:35:50 <DeadWeasel>	the bot has changed his amount to .13 and is putting downward pressure on BTC price.
Feb 14 14:36:18 <DeadWeasel>	from .10
Feb 14 14:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	which bot ?
Feb 14 14:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 14 14:36:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.41728, Best ask: 26.42859, Bid-ask spread: 0.01131, Last trade: 26.42859, 24 hour volume: 143011.50114582, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.67000, 24 hour vwap: 25.04569
Feb 14 14:37:01 <DeadWeasel>	the one I assume is a bot because I see a .13 sell every 6 or 8 transactions, sometimes 3 in a row at .002 less than the last.
Feb 14 14:37:18 <DeadWeasel>	seems like a bot,i've got no way to know.
Feb 14 14:37:27 <mjr_>	also...i find that these exchanges are much easier to arb
Feb 14 14:37:37 <mjr_>	look at bitfloor and then look at camp bx
Feb 14 14:38:15 <mjr_>	10 coins for sale at 26.65
Feb 14 14:38:35 <B0g4r7_>	I'll buy your 10 coins for $26.65.
Feb 14 14:38:47 <mjr_>	can buy at 26.40 on bitfloor
Feb 14 14:38:55 <mjr_>	read up
Feb 14 14:39:03 <mjr_>	i'm showing the arbitrage opportunity that exists right now
Feb 14 14:39:11 <B0g4r7_>	Oh, you meant $26.65 each.  ;P
Feb 14 14:39:13 <mjr_>	.25
Feb 14 14:39:23 <mjr_>	gotta get to work on my bot
Feb 14 14:39:35 <B0g4r7_>	I had the beginnings of a bot.
Feb 14 14:39:38 <mjr_>	cuz i can transfer between these two relatively easily
Feb 14 14:39:39 <mjr_>	me too
Feb 14 14:39:46 <mjr_>	it was just a spread finder
Feb 14 14:39:57 <mjr_>	if the spread was larger than the fees it would market make
Feb 14 14:39:59 <B0g4r7_>	I was pleased to discover that once I had it talking to one exchange's API, it "just worked" with 3 others with no changes.
Feb 14 14:40:13 <mjr_>	nice
Feb 14 14:40:21 <mjr_>	i wish i could trust btc-e
Feb 14 14:40:26 <mjr_>	they have the best prices always i think
Feb 14 14:40:35 <B0g4r7_>	But you don't trust, eh?
Feb 14 14:40:59 <mjr_>	eh don't know
Feb 14 14:41:12 <mjr_>	seems too far away
Feb 14 14:41:19 <mjr_>	i don't use mt. gox
Feb 14 14:41:30 <mjr_>	i've used bitinstant, local, bitfloor, and soon camp bx
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Feb 14 14:42:04 <B0g4r7_>	I used btc-e a couple times to exchange for LTC.  Had no issues.
Feb 14 14:42:46 <mjr_>	nice
Feb 14 14:42:56 <mjr_>	just seems to hard for me personally to get money all the way there
Feb 14 14:43:01 <mjr_>	international wire
Feb 14 14:43:03 <mjr_>	wait days
Feb 14 14:43:07 <mjr_>	i want to move fast
Feb 14 14:43:13 <mjr_>	i just got btc in camp bx now
Feb 14 14:43:23 <mjr_>	so i can take advantage of that offer sitting on the books
Feb 14 14:44:03 <mjr_>	and they let you send hidden orders *drool*
Feb 14 14:44:26 <mjr_>	so much easier to front run :) i gotta get to work on this bot
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Feb 14 14:45:44 <mod6>	laaaaaaag zapped me out
Feb 14 14:52:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00063973 = 4.0943 BTC [+]
Feb 14 14:52:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1968 @ 0.00064034 = 1.2602 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 14:56:49 <DeadWeasel>	wtf 27
Feb 14 14:56:51 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 14 14:56:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.88167, Best ask: 26.91933, Bid-ask spread: 0.03766, Last trade: 27.00000, 24 hour volume: 148547.21940210, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.03987, 24 hour vwap: 25.12082
Feb 14 14:57:00 <kakobrekla>	::bc,convert eur
Feb 14 14:57:12 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 14 14:57:12 <gribble>	1 BTC = 27.00000 U.S. dollars = 20.2596233 Euros
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Feb 14 14:58:48 <DeaDTerra>	2200 Ghash ^^ go ASICMINER!
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Feb 14 15:01:10 <Bugpowder>	fuclk
Feb 14 15:01:14 <kakobrekla>	yea
Feb 14 15:01:21 <kakobrekla>	my words exactly.
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Feb 14 15:02:14 <Bugpowder>	Ireally managed tofuck up my best trade ever
Feb 14 15:02:25 <Bugpowder>	oh well
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Feb 14 15:03:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.05712394 = 57.1239 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 15:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.07274391 = 72.7439 BTC [-]
Feb 14 15:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 1000 @ 0.09149325 = 91.4933 BTC [-]
Feb 14 15:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 14 15:04:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.09800, Best ask: 27.17804, Bid-ask spread: 0.08004, Last trade: 27.23334, 24 hour volume: 151359.26250357, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.25000, 24 hour vwap: 25.15996
Feb 14 15:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	the wow
Feb 14 15:04:10 <kakobrekla>	is fucked.
Feb 14 15:04:17 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... wow.
Feb 14 15:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	27 ? srlsy ?!
Feb 14 15:04:29 <mircea_popescu>	went form 21 to 27 in 16 hours ?
Feb 14 15:04:53 <DeadWeasel>	dat not good
Feb 14 15:04:57 <DeadWeasel>	too bouncy
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Feb 14 15:05:39 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 26.5
Feb 14 15:05:41 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 26.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Feb 14 15:05:49 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 27
Feb 14 15:05:50 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 27.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Feb 14 15:05:56 <DeadWeasel>	damn
Feb 14 15:06:02 <DeadWeasel>	asks disappeared in 2 seconds
Feb 14 15:06:09 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 28
Feb 14 15:06:11 <gribble>	There are currently 10647.286 bitcoins offered at or under 28.0 USD, worth 294253.35604 USD in total.
Feb 14 15:06:17 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 29
Feb 14 15:06:19 <gribble>	There are currently 13698.669 bitcoins offered at or under 29.0 USD, worth 381539.936416 USD in total.
Feb 14 15:06:35 <DeadWeasel>	;;bids 29
Feb 14 15:06:37 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Feb 14 15:06:40 <kakobrekla>	30 here we come
Feb 14 15:07:27 <DeadWeasel>	thank you for saying that, i always get itchy trigger finger in these wild swings.  I'm such an emotional woman
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Feb 14 15:08:08 *	DeadWeasel calls himself a woman metaphorically
Feb 14 15:08:44 <Bugpowder>	fuk this
Feb 14 15:09:02 <DeadWeasel>	dumps coming
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Feb 14 15:09:52 <mjr_>	man, this is great
Feb 14 15:10:10 <mjr_>	i love these exchanges
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Feb 14 15:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.723 = 3.615 BTC [-]
Feb 14 15:12:49 <burnside>	<Bugpowder_> picking out apartments in santa monica
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Feb 14 15:13:02 <burnside>	Bugpowder - you live in Santa Monica?
Feb 14 15:14:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0063 = 0.0315 BTC [+]
Feb 14 15:22:36 <mod6>	;;ticker
Feb 14 15:22:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.07455, Best ask: 27.08704, Bid-ask spread: 0.01249, Last trade: 27.24000, 24 hour volume: 153179.59959284, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.25000, 24 hour vwap: 25.18652
Feb 14 15:23:40 <DeadWeasel>	12K to 28.   Everyone expect a big drop at 30?
Feb 14 15:23:46 <DeadWeasel>	or more ilke 32/35?
Feb 14 15:23:58 <DeadWeasel>	i know we don't know, but what does your gut expect/
Feb 14 15:24:00 <DeadWeasel>	?
Feb 14 15:24:10 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap deadweasel
Feb 14 15:24:21 <gribble>	Error: timed out
Feb 14 15:24:26 <DeadWeasel>	Gribble!
Feb 14 15:24:34 <DeadWeasel>	don't die on me!
Feb 14 15:24:41 <DeadWeasel>	I need a good spank!
Feb 14 15:24:44 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap deadweasel
Feb 14 15:24:48 *	gribble slaps deadweasel with a radioactive single reed
Feb 14 15:24:57 *	DeadWeasel is releived
Feb 14 15:25:01 <DeadWeasel>	relieved*
Feb 14 15:25:10 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 14 15:25:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.20000, Best ask: 27.22800, Bid-ask spread: 0.02800, Last trade: 27.20000, 24 hour volume: 153518.46183669, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.25000, 24 hour vwap: 25.19122
Feb 14 15:26:44 <DeadWeasel>	dinner time tonight, 40-70kBTC dum
Feb 14 15:26:45 <DeadWeasel>	p
Feb 14 15:26:50 <DeadWeasel>	probably
Feb 14 15:26:56 <DeadWeasel>	if last night is any indicator
Feb 14 15:28:06 <Diablo-D3>	jesus what
Feb 14 15:32:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 1000 @ 0.08972507 = 89.7251 BTC [-]
Feb 14 15:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.07128309 = 71.2831 BTC [-]
Feb 14 15:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.05592943 = 55.9294 BTC [-]
Feb 14 15:33:53 <maximian>	http://blog.reddit.com/2013/02/new-gold-payment-options-bitcoin-and.html
Feb 14 15:35:34 <maximian>	This will make a news splash for sure
Feb 14 15:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Feb 14 15:36:45 <mircea_popescu>	somewhatbashful will love that1.
Feb 14 15:37:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.04308293 = 43.0829 BTC [-]
Feb 14 15:40:06 <mjr_>	why is there going to be a dump?
Feb 14 15:41:33 <jurov>	a day ago or so 250k ask wall shortly appeared on mtgox
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Feb 14 15:42:01 <jurov>	if it wasn't shoped, it's likely it's perparing for dump
Feb 14 15:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.btcguild.com/halloffame.php
Feb 14 15:42:23 <Lyspooner>	i'm trying to buy reddit gold with my bitcoin gems.  someone help!
Feb 14 15:42:26 <mircea_popescu>	alleged asicminer 2.2th
Feb 14 15:42:29 <jurov>	;;sell 250000
Feb 14 15:42:29 <gribble>	(sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include expression of (1 more message)
Feb 14 15:42:48 <kakobrekla>	15 blocks found by it
Feb 14 15:42:59 <jurov>	;;bc,sell 250000
Feb 14 15:42:59 <gribble>	Error: "bc,sell" is not a valid command.
Feb 14 15:43:25 <mjr_>	oh wow, so asicminer is doing good i guess
Feb 14 15:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	by now it's 1/3 of the whole pool
Feb 14 15:44:16 <mircea_popescu>	and if indeed they have 12th it will be 16th in btcguild out of 37th total
Feb 14 15:44:21 <mircea_popescu>	closing in on 50%
Feb 14 15:44:51 <mircea_popescu>	Network total	23.541 Thash/s atm, which is even worse.
Feb 14 15:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	and makes the 2th figure look like shenanigans really.
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Feb 14 15:45:39 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 14 15:45:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.25414, Best ask: 27.30710, Bid-ask spread: 0.05296, Last trade: 27.50000, 24 hour volume: 157549.28385180, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.50000, 24 hour vwap: 25.25535
Feb 14 15:47:28 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 14 15:47:29 <gribble>	1 BTC = 27.50000 U.S. dollars = 20.6348015 Euros
Feb 14 15:47:36 <maximian>	I think with this news, it's going to $30 for sure
Feb 14 15:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	why so ?
Feb 14 15:48:16 <maximian>	fresh injection of hype
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Feb 14 15:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	a that
Feb 14 15:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Feb 14 15:50:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.0006375 = 3.9844 BTC [-]
Feb 14 15:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.000637 = 7.2937 BTC [-]
Feb 14 15:50:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00627988 = 3.1399 BTC [-]
Feb 14 15:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00628 = 4.082 BTC [+]
Feb 14 15:51:12 <mod6>	;;market --sell 250000
Feb 14 15:51:14 <gribble>	A market order to sell 250000 bitcoins right now would net 3327608.8468 USD and would take the last price down to 2.2000 USD, resulting in an average price of 13.3104 USD/BTC.
Feb 14 15:51:36 <gigavps>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144046.0;topicseen
Feb 14 15:51:36 <mod6>	wow. if that happens, i be buying.
Feb 14 15:51:51 <jurov>	reddit lulz "67117 identity reviled, it's asicminer"
Feb 14 15:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov they said so iirc
Feb 14 15:52:23 <jurov>	they're reviled
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Feb 14 15:54:43 <Diablo-D3>	I thought we already knew this?
Feb 14 15:55:08 <jurov>	;;ud reviled
Feb 14 15:55:09 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=reviled | 1. to assail with contemptuous or opprobrious language; address or speak of abusively. 2. to speak abusively.
Feb 14 15:55:18 <mircea_popescu>	hahaah owned me.
Feb 14 15:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	thought you misspelled revealed.
Feb 14 15:55:57 <mjr_>	reddit just started accepting bitcoins
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Feb 14 15:56:06 <mjr_>	going through coinbase
Feb 14 15:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Feb 14 15:56:46 <mjr_>	so now, if every redditor at least just sees the option if they go to pay
Feb 14 15:57:01 <mjr_>	they will at least think, oh that's a thing
Feb 14 15:57:30 <mjr_>	could be big publicity
Feb 14 15:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.739 = 3.695 BTC [+]
Feb 14 15:58:31 *	mjr_ drools at the possiblity of netflix accepting btc
Feb 14 15:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	that'd actually be pretty cool.
Feb 14 15:58:59 <mjr_>	it makes sense for them
Feb 14 15:59:11 <mjr_>	even just offering the option...
Feb 14 15:59:16 <mjr_>	exposure
Feb 14 15:59:24 <mjr_>	gonna start an email campaign...now
Feb 14 16:00:13 <maximian>	this is crazy good publicity
Feb 14 16:01:35 <maximian>	perhaps the most important news event since the Silk Road story on Gawker
Feb 14 16:04:40 <nanotube>	what's this, reddit takes bitcoins now? nice :)
Feb 14 16:07:23 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 16:07:31 <mjr_>	i'm sure not everyone even uses reddit gold
Feb 14 16:07:40 <mjr_>	and those that do may not even choose to use btc
Feb 14 16:07:47 <mjr_>	but at least they will have heard of it now
Feb 14 16:08:23 <mjr_>	i think if many people push to get online content providers to offer it
Feb 14 16:08:43 <mjr_>	netflix, hulu plus, spotify, pandora, etc
Feb 14 16:08:53 <mjr_>	that would be very nice
Feb 14 16:09:00 <mjr_>	and it fits in very well with their model
Feb 14 16:09:14 <mjr_>	though it would be nice if there was a wallet that did recurring payments
Feb 14 16:11:01 <nanotube>	mjr_: cool. /me doesn't use reddit, but i hear it's pretty big.
Feb 14 16:11:11 <nanotube>	also, wallet with recurring payments... that's called a cronjob :D
Feb 14 16:11:24 <maximian>	bitcoin sentiment is shifting from "lolz… monopoly money" to "wtf? really?"
Feb 14 16:11:28 <mjr_>	yeah, the bitcoin channel is ok, though not super smart financially speaking
Feb 14 16:11:32 <mjr_>	exactly
Feb 14 16:11:33 <nanotube>	though really i'm not sure i'd want to do any recurring payments automatically.
Feb 14 16:11:48 <mjr_>	and i know cron jobs :( so like i said we need a wallet with recurring payments
Feb 14 16:12:01 <nanotube>	there's a protocol being developed for payment requests and receipts and stuff, that would probably be pretty good for it.
Feb 14 16:12:06 <mjr_>	sweet
Feb 14 16:12:16 <mjr_>	just saying that would be a great feature to offer a netflix
Feb 14 16:12:32 <mjr_>	they love recurring monthly stuff vs they have to choose to pay each month
Feb 14 16:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	maximian exactly.
Feb 14 16:12:47 <nanotube>	yes, it's good for the seller, bad for the buyer....
Feb 14 16:12:57 <nanotube>	(i.e., a lot of those guys count on people forgetting to cancel)
Feb 14 16:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&
Feb 14 16:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	dat cock.
Feb 14 16:14:28 <nanotube>	howdy mircea_popescu :)
Feb 14 16:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	hey!
Feb 14 16:16:13 <mjr_>	yeah, i mean, that is kinda on the buyer
Feb 14 16:16:19 <mjr_>	you don't like, you cancel
Feb 14 16:16:49 <mjr_>	but, i kinda appreciate not having to think about netflix, just automatically take my $7...if i had to call or actually do something...probably wouldn't be worth the effort
Feb 14 16:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ prolly can have an app.
Feb 14 16:17:25 <mjr_>	true
Feb 14 16:17:39 <mjr_>	by the way...notice that reddit went through coinbase...
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Feb 14 16:17:58 <mjr_>	i think they will do better as online wallet/vendor support than as actual bitcoin exchange
Feb 14 16:18:31 <mjr_>	TBH, it is my second least favorite method after mt gox
Feb 14 16:20:58 <mjr_>	is there a way to tweet a bitcoin at someone?
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Feb 14 16:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006394 = 2.7628 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:28:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14779 @ 0.00063957 = 9.4522 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:29:11 <mod6>	;;ticker
Feb 14 16:29:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.50000, Best ask: 27.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 26.50000, 24 hour volume: 162182.55852551, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 25.32592
Feb 14 16:29:37 <mod6>	hmmm
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Feb 14 16:32:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3517 @ 0.00063744 = 2.2419 BTC [-]
Feb 14 16:33:43 <mjr_>	ok...
Feb 14 16:33:51 <mjr_>	so i went to suggest to netflix
Feb 14 16:33:59 <mjr_>	had to live chat cuz i couldn't find an email address
Feb 14 16:34:05 <mjr_>	he said they don't have one for suggestions
Feb 14 16:34:13 <mjr_>	but that he could relay my suggestion
Feb 14 16:34:24 <mjr_>	so i said my first suggestion is that you get an email address for suggestions
Feb 14 16:34:35 <mjr_>	second suggestion, accept bitcoins
Feb 14 16:35:01 <mod6>	lol
Feb 14 16:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	wrong order.
Feb 14 16:35:03 <mod6>	nice
Feb 14 16:35:36 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 14 16:35:47 <mjr_>	well...i want to be able to try and get a bunch of people to email
Feb 14 16:35:56 <mjr_>	cuz getting them to chat with jason will be tougher
Feb 14 16:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 14 16:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	this shit's so unreal. from 14 to 28 in a month ?
Feb 14 16:36:14 <mircea_popescu>	srsly ?
Feb 14 16:36:17 <mjr_>	i had the time and thought this guy would be like wtf
Feb 14 16:36:29 <mjr_>	he was like, ah i haven't heard of that in a while
Feb 14 16:36:30 <mod6>	it seems like every new leg up is met with a round of selling though. and it marches on...
Feb 14 16:36:34 <mjr_>	yep
Feb 14 16:36:42 <mjr_>	saw a great article on the rally
Feb 14 16:36:43 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 yup
Feb 14 16:36:50 <pigeons>	jurov: the wall wasn't shopped, i saw it
Feb 14 16:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	this cvan not but end up in tears.
Feb 14 16:37:21 <mjr_>	http://bitcoinmagazine.com/13-to-26-exploring-the-bitcoin-rally/
Feb 14 16:37:55 <pigeons>	i dont think bitcoinmagazine links are allowed in here
Feb 14 16:38:03 <mjr_>	this time (i believe) it is based on greater adoption and publicity
Feb 14 16:38:04 <mjr_>	oops sorry
Feb 14 16:38:18 <mjr_>	did not realize that
Feb 14 16:38:46 <mjr_>	!help
Feb 14 16:38:47 <assbot>	List of commands:
Feb 14 16:38:48 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Feb 14 16:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00063957 = 0.0134 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:39:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2353 @ 0.00064037 = 1.5068 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064051 = 0.6405 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:39:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9326 @ 0.00064052 = 5.9735 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ he's trolling you
Feb 14 16:39:48 <mircea_popescu>	"Market prediction is a difficult thing; if it were easy, Bitcoin would have immediately jumped all the way to some final price back in 2009. Perhaps the best strategy for most of us is to simply wait and see."
Feb 14 16:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	ironically... that's what apparently happened to s.mpoe.
Feb 14 16:40:08 <mjr_>	anyway, by any metric you choose, they are growing everywhere, blog mentions, google trends, SR users, SR items for sale, overall volume
Feb 14 16:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	it went way up and since then it's been roughly stable
Feb 14 16:40:24 <mjr_>	lol yeah
Feb 14 16:40:41 <mjr_>	no one can predict and i don't even want to
Feb 14 16:40:45 <mircea_popescu>	just going by how annoyed somethingbashful is tho...
Feb 14 16:40:48 <mircea_popescu>	pretty funny.
Feb 14 16:40:57 <mjr_>	but i can see baseless tulip stuff vs growing interest
Feb 14 16:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	" It's just a neat piece for people to talk about to feel tapped into the pulse of the Internet without actually having to do it. "You hear about that internet currency? Yeah it's pretty neat huh" and that's the end of it. It's just a filler piece, a blurb, not really a publicity piece.
Feb 14 16:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	There's nothing actually newsworthy about bitcoin at this point except in drug law and so on. Drugs aren't really "in" right now in the news cycle. Now, if someone started selling unregistered guns with extended magazines using bitcoin. . ."
Feb 14 16:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin isn't really happening volume 349578349
Feb 14 16:41:43 <mjr_>	is that counting other exchanges and coinbase?
Feb 14 16:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	"When this bubble bursts it won't be newsworthy because nothing of importance will be lost. There will be a few articles on Gawker or whatever but nobody will really report on this. Bitcoin will die slowly, fading into obscurity as the last true believer tries to tell his son with his dying breath "there's always money in the bitcoin shack," not realizing his son mothballed that loving shack years ago because it was st
Feb 14 16:41:45 <mircea_popescu>	upid makework and the solar panels powering it could be used for something fruitful."
Feb 14 16:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	sweet sweet tears lol
Feb 14 16:42:05 <mjr_>	hahahaha
Feb 14 16:42:39 <mjr_>	i mean, changing the world and the financial systems, giving people a more democratic method of payment, giving them power...that is all well and good...i really just want to see SA cry
Feb 14 16:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064049 = 2.7676 BTC [-]
Feb 14 16:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006405 = 2.7676 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6125 @ 0.00064052 = 3.9232 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:43:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064108 = 7.3083 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6380 @ 0.00064182 = 4.0948 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4553 @ 0.00064311 = 2.9281 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:43:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's their interwebs forum, they can cry if they want to .
Feb 14 16:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	certainly better than mangosteencoin tho.
Feb 14 16:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	which i think is the real problem here.
Feb 14 16:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	"I really hope asicminer brings all their stuff online, takes control of the network and pushes all the other mining pools out of existence by increasing the difficulty beyond profitability for anyone without their own ASICs. People desert Bitcoin in droves, the price crashes and ASIC owners are left holding the bag of worthless Bitcoins and useless, expensive hardware."
Feb 14 16:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	this was totally the best interwbs report so far.
Feb 14 16:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	so full of butthurtcoin...
Feb 14 16:45:32 <mod6>	yeah. these guys have epic amounts of butthurt.
Feb 14 16:45:54 <mod6>	this is all stuff from SA huh?
Feb 14 16:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	Someone did the math some minutes ago on the BFL chat how much a single Jalapeno would earn per day if everyone rolls out as intended and the difficulty matches that hashrate.
Feb 14 16:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	It's "0.025152 - 0.037728" BTC per day. Yup, your 150$ device makes 4 to 6 cent a day (at pre bubble burst prices).
Feb 14 16:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	also can not math any.
Feb 14 16:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	which is somewhat not surprising, i guess they're mostly the liberal arts/community college folks with a lot of debt and degrees in whore/nigger studies right ?
Feb 14 16:46:38 <mod6>	yeah
Feb 14 16:48:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.74 = 2.96 BTC [+]
Feb 14 16:48:10 <mjr_>	lol
Feb 14 16:48:30 <mjr_>	they are only going to have half the hashing power of the avalons
Feb 14 16:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	if indeed avalon delivers anything eventually then its kinda perfect that asicminer came online first
Feb 14 16:49:00 <mircea_popescu>	25 + 12 + 18 best way for this to play out
Feb 14 16:49:02 <mjr_>	avalon has been online
Feb 14 16:49:08 <mjr_>	2 of them
Feb 14 16:49:12 <mjr_>	i saw one in person
Feb 14 16:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	nah, they sent like 60 units which are awol/possibly confiscated/stuck in customs/who knows
Feb 14 16:49:26 <mjr_>	watched it hash, (well not actually the bits, but it was on)
Feb 14 16:49:30 <mircea_popescu>	and the rest are stuck in ny celebrations
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Feb 14 16:49:52 <mjr_>	yeah the first batch is not "wild" yet
Feb 14 16:50:00 <mjr_>	but the 2 PoC are
Feb 14 16:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	well yes
Feb 14 16:50:23 <mjr_>	will BFL ever deliver
Feb 14 16:50:26 <mircea_popescu>	actually im kind of curious if inaba REALLY thinks he;ll be able to walk away from the eventual bfl blow up
Feb 14 16:50:34 <mircea_popescu>	especially after what happened to buzz dave.
Feb 14 16:51:29 <mjr_>	do you know what exchange asicminer is going to be on?
Feb 14 16:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://blockchain.info/pools
Feb 14 16:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	it also seems the btc guild thing was judicious
Feb 14 16:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.999999 BTC [-]
Feb 14 16:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if the next 4th go to slush
Feb 14 16:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ they're developing their own last i heard.
Feb 14 16:52:19 <mjr_>	interesting
Feb 14 16:52:32 <Lyspooner>	when did those 23, 24, 25, 26 puts trade mircea_popescu
Feb 14 16:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	yest and earlier.
Feb 14 16:52:57 <mircea_popescu>	the forum is abuzz with commentary.
Feb 14 16:53:26 <mircea_popescu>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/952-new-account-page-website-shows-your-orders-11.html#post14508 that shit's pretty good.
Feb 14 16:53:57 <mjr_>	think idiff futures are a good call?
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Feb 14 16:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ well... i dunno.
Feb 14 16:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	kinda wide spread on them
Feb 14 16:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine sooner or later someone competent - maybe a miner - will start mming them
Feb 14 16:56:00 <mjr_>	by the way
Feb 14 16:56:09 <mjr_>	at current price, we may have broken 300 mil
Feb 14 16:56:19 <mjr_>	280 using average which is around 25
Feb 14 16:56:36 <mjr_>	think there is at least another 20 mil for $2....
Feb 14 16:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 14 16:56:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.95326, Best ask: 26.99997, Bid-ask spread: 0.04671, Last trade: 26.95326, 24 hour volume: 162515.40000499, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 25.34225
Feb 14 16:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 10.780*25.34225
Feb 14 16:56:49 <gribble>	273.189455
Feb 14 16:56:52 <mircea_popescu>	not yet
Feb 14 16:57:03 <Lyspooner>	what about the 20EUR/BTC mark?
Feb 14 16:57:06 <Lyspooner>	that's right here
Feb 14 16:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	thaty's done
Feb 14 16:57:12 <mjr_>	no, not using vwap, using mt gox last i meant
Feb 14 16:57:19 <mjr_>	not official
Feb 14 16:57:22 <mjr_>	but getting there
Feb 14 16:57:35 <Lyspooner>	the euro's still around? jesus
Feb 14 16:57:41 <mod6>	haha
Feb 14 16:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner don't hate, i bought some homeless chicks pizzas with bitcoins like yest.
Feb 14 16:58:29 <Lyspooner>	some homeless chicks' pizzas more like it
Feb 14 16:58:31 <Lyspooner>	ruthless!
Feb 14 16:58:47 <mircea_popescu>	well they claimed they were students but i dunno...
Feb 14 16:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	fuck. i said with bitcoins
Feb 14 16:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	I meant with EUROs
Feb 14 16:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	jesus it's falling into irrelevancy.
Feb 14 16:59:10 <mod6>	ahhh
Feb 14 16:59:22 <Lyspooner>	ok makes sense now
Feb 14 16:59:22 <mjr_>	yeah, think a few of them want out of the eurozone
Feb 14 16:59:25 <mod6>	i was wondering if you used the pizza.itradebtc.com thingy
Feb 14 16:59:36 <mircea_popescu>	no, i used a street vendor
Feb 14 16:59:37 <Lyspooner>	i did pizzaforbitcoins, it is worthless
Feb 14 17:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	i'll tell you something definite, i'm getting about one person a day hitting me up about advice as to how to go into bitcoin business
Feb 14 17:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	most people who aren't involved in btc
Feb 14 17:00:32 <mircea_popescu>	so the word is surely spreading
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Feb 14 17:00:51 <Lyspooner>	how *do* you go into bitcoin business?
Feb 14 17:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	same as anything else, you let it ferment...
Feb 14 17:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 804 @ 0.00063744 = 0.5125 BTC [-]
Feb 14 17:01:24 <Lyspooner>	that's wine
Feb 14 17:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00063717 = 5.1611 BTC [-]
Feb 14 17:01:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1004 @ 0.00063701 = 0.6396 BTC [-]
Feb 14 17:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	a sorry.
Feb 14 17:01:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 692 @ 0.000637 = 0.4408 BTC [-]
Feb 14 17:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	you come up with an idea, you assemble a team, you start implementing it...
Feb 14 17:04:32 <mjr_>	yeah, unfortunately you still have to have an idea
Feb 14 17:04:41 <mjr_>	step 1: bitcoins
Feb 14 17:04:45 <mjr_>	step 2: ???
Feb 14 17:04:49 <mjr_>	step 3: profit
Feb 14 17:05:23 <mjr_>	i feel like that is on at least a hundred VC's whiteboards right now
Feb 14 17:06:27 <iz>	step 2: evade local tax/gambling/trading laws somehow..
Feb 14 17:06:54 <jurov>	um, where do i assemble a team everyone is like, has to sustain wife and kids, paying mortgage and scared shitless
Feb 14 17:07:09 <jurov>	of what i;m saying about mpex
Feb 14 17:07:46 <jurov>	almost as if there was exactly one crazy fool like me on this rock
Feb 14 17:08:25 <Namworld>	You're alone, jurov. All alone. The rest is but an illusion.
Feb 14 17:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063719 = 2.7533 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12472 @ 0.000637 = 7.9447 BTC [-]
Feb 14 17:08:36 <jurov>	go away you bot
Feb 14 17:08:48 <assbot>	 you go.
Feb 14 17:11:44 <Namworld>	So is everyone on the we're gonna be rich bandwagon or do people expect a bubble to pop at any moment by now?
Feb 14 17:12:20 <kakobrekla>	if there will be widespread adoption price has to go up
Feb 14 17:12:24 <kakobrekla>	that is a fact
Feb 14 17:12:28 <kakobrekla>	now go play around it
Feb 14 17:12:36 <Lyspooner>	namworld it's not about the price relative to fiat
Feb 14 17:12:39 <Lyspooner>	it's about replacing fiat
Feb 14 17:12:52 <Lyspooner>	bitcoin rich is all that matters
Feb 14 17:13:02 <mjr_>	well
Feb 14 17:13:08 <mjr_>	i agree that is the ultimate goal
Feb 14 17:13:13 <Lyspooner>	k cool then
Feb 14 17:13:19 <mjr_>	however, there will be quite a bit of time before we can pay rent in btc
Feb 14 17:13:25 <mjr_>	or our bosses will pay us in btc
Feb 14 17:13:25 <Namworld>	So everyone finds the current price rise normal?
Feb 14 17:13:33 <mjr_>	lol what is normal
Feb 14 17:13:38 <mjr_>	its insane
Feb 14 17:13:47 <mjr_>	but i think the adoption and publicity has exploded as fst
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Feb 14 17:14:10 <mjr_>	my friend who owns a coffee shop in soho tentatively agreed to accept bitcoins
Feb 14 17:14:25 <mjr_>	pending implementation details etc
Feb 14 17:14:40 <Namworld>	by adoption, you mean people buying in on the hype or actual people buying because they need to spend bitcoins on a service/actually use bitcoins?
Feb 14 17:14:47 <mjr_>	both
Feb 14 17:14:48 <kakobrekla>	mjr_ go read http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/
Feb 14 17:17:57 <mjr_>	cool article
Feb 14 17:18:17 <mjr_>	but i don't think it will be that quick
Feb 14 17:18:26 <mjr_>	again, you can't buy a new car, pay loans etc with btc
Feb 14 17:18:33 <mjr_>	so there will always be room for exchange
Feb 14 17:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	seems jurov is one step ahead of the curve
Feb 14 17:18:45 <mjr_>	fuck, you can't even get by in the world using only the dollar
Feb 14 17:18:55 <mjr_>	apple has to pay foxconn using yuan
Feb 14 17:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner thing is even 1k btc makes you bitcoin rich
Feb 14 17:19:22 <mjr_>	exchange will always happen, price will rise
Feb 14 17:19:30 <mjr_>	but eventually stabilize at whatever the market decides
Feb 14 17:19:56 <mjr_>	if anyone, anyone at all, can tell me they do not use fiat at all for any reason, then i will be surprised
Feb 14 17:19:59 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu yes, i agree.  people should strive to get 1000 BTC if they don't have it already
Feb 14 17:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Feb 14 17:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	there's no going to be more than like 20k of those
Feb 14 17:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	which if you think about it... being in the top 20k ppl is pretty much being very rich
Feb 14 17:21:26 <mjr_>	very true
Feb 14 17:21:31 <mjr_>	but take my friends coffee shop
Feb 14 17:21:39 <mjr_>	he can peg the cost in btc to the dollar
Feb 14 17:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ are you familiar with that theory of investing whereby early on in your investing life you should never sell assets, to avoid the spreads, but simply buy something else and change portofolio that way ?
Feb 14 17:21:57 <mjr_>	seems familiar
Feb 14 17:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	okay.
Feb 14 17:22:08 <Lyspooner>	that's good advice since you set the spreads ;)
Feb 14 17:22:09 <mjr_>	but you can market make
Feb 14 17:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	from my pov i am simply conserving btc portofolio and using my fiat assets to discharge all obligations
Feb 14 17:22:20 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 14 17:22:22 <mircea_popescu>	on the net this reduces my fiat footprint over time.
Feb 14 17:22:34 <mjr_>	very true and that is the way to go, if you have a lot of btc
Feb 14 17:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	so in a sense, albeit very synthetically, i am paying for everyting in bitcoin
Feb 14 17:22:45 <mjr_>	many (most) don't have as many as you
Feb 14 17:23:13 <mjr_>	and eventually...paper money needs to be spent or it is really worthless
Feb 14 17:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 14 17:23:29 <mjr_>	so either you buy a coffee using your bitcoins
Feb 14 17:23:33 <mjr_>	releasing them into the supply
Feb 14 17:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	gersham's law still hasn't been repealed.
Feb 14 17:23:46 <mjr_>	or you exchange and then buy the coffee releasing them into the supply
Feb 14 17:23:48 <Lyspooner>	*gresham
Feb 14 17:23:58 <mjr_>	assuming you drink coffee
Feb 14 17:23:59 <mircea_popescu>	ty lypsooner!
Feb 14 17:24:34 <mjr_>	my point being, if you run out of cash, you still must spend somewhat
Feb 14 17:24:40 <mjr_>	and you will spend btc
Feb 14 17:24:54 <mjr_>	if everyone could hoard all their assets forever, everyone might do that, but life costs money
Feb 14 17:25:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1197 @ 0.00064311 = 0.7698 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:25:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064541 = 2.7888 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00064542 = 4.7116 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7482 @ 0.00065194 = 4.8778 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:25:43 <mjr_>	so, i think the two are mutually dependant
Feb 14 17:25:51 <mjr_>	if no one can buy or sell with bitcoins, their value drops
Feb 14 17:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	i think by 2100 or so i'll be out of fiat assets
Feb 14 17:25:56 <mjr_>	LOL
Feb 14 17:25:57 <mircea_popescu>	by then i guess spending btc may well be safe
Feb 14 17:26:25 <mjr_>	my point is that the transition can be done whereby you generate revenue in btc and spend btc
Feb 14 17:26:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.04105003 = 41.05 BTC [-]
Feb 14 17:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	<mjr_> if no one can buy or sell with bitcoins, their value drops << this is absolute nonsebnse.
Feb 14 17:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	all through the history, when silver was overpriced by fiat, gold was hoarded
Feb 14 17:26:44 <mjr_>	ok...if there is absolutely no trade in bitcoins
Feb 14 17:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	in all those instances people had the option to pay in gold
Feb 14 17:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	they never exercised it
Feb 14 17:26:57 <mjr_>	ie. i cannot spend my bitcoins or gain something from them
Feb 14 17:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	that DID NOT drop the price of gold
Feb 14 17:27:14 <mjr_>	yes, but gold had a *little* more history
Feb 14 17:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Feb 14 17:27:20 <mjr_>	and was not trying to prove itself
Feb 14 17:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	this is like saying you like this chick because she has more history.
Feb 14 17:27:32 <mjr_>	so with no adoption, everyone just goes back to using fiat
Feb 14 17:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard that 1.
Feb 14 17:27:52 <mjr_>	i can't buy from you using btc, i can't sell to you for btc
Feb 14 17:27:58 <mjr_>	ok, to me btc doesn't exist
Feb 14 17:28:02 <mjr_>	you have paper profits
Feb 14 17:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	you could, you just don't want to.
Feb 14 17:28:04 <jurov>	lol, gonna fund some research to be able to stay here till 2100
Feb 14 17:28:15 <mjr_>	ok, so my point is you *could*
Feb 14 17:28:22 <mjr_>	if you don't, you cease trade
Feb 14 17:28:29 <mjr_>	if you do, you release bitcoins back into the economy
Feb 14 17:28:45 <mjr_>	ie. if japan hoarded yen, we couldn't buy there shit
Feb 14 17:28:50 <mjr_>	their*
Feb 14 17:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065186 = 2.8167 BTC [-]
Feb 14 17:29:02 <mjr_>	so the yen falls in value since everyone stops caring
Feb 14 17:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1279 @ 0.00065194 = 0.8338 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:29:07 <mjr_>	and writes them off as part of the economy
Feb 14 17:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	that's not how things work.
Feb 14 17:29:25 <mjr_>	when liquidity is very low, pricing assets becomes very hard
Feb 14 17:29:40 <mjr_>	with 0 liquidity, it becomes impossible
Feb 14 17:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	did you read the above about gold ?
Feb 14 17:30:01 <mjr_>	ie. what price is someone willing to pay, i don't know because i am not willing to sell *at any price*
Feb 14 17:30:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.74449999 = 7.445 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	it wasn't at all impossible to price anything, even tho gold liquidity was 0
Feb 14 17:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	because silver liquidity acted as a proxy
Feb 14 17:30:14 <mjr_>	it was never 0
Feb 14 17:30:16 <mjr_>	ah ok
Feb 14 17:30:18 <mjr_>	true
Feb 14 17:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	this is how this works
Feb 14 17:30:24 <mjr_>	and there are other crypto currencies
Feb 14 17:30:30 <mircea_popescu>	even if not a single bitcoin is used to DIRECTLY buy services
Feb 14 17:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	fiat proxyes it
Feb 14 17:30:44 <mjr_>	in fact, litecoin was meant to be the silver
Feb 14 17:30:53 <mjr_>	that is possible too, but only if people want to
Feb 14 17:30:58 <mjr_>	you could use fiat to proxy it
Feb 14 17:31:15 <mjr_>	my point is simply this
Feb 14 17:31:32 <mjr_>	if every seller refused to part with their bitcoins at any price
Feb 14 17:31:42 <mjr_>	people would move on
Feb 14 17:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	something like, if women refused to suck cock no matter what
Feb 14 17:31:55 <mjr_>	at this point right now i mean
Feb 14 17:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	people'd stop having sex.
Feb 14 17:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	that ?
Feb 14 17:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00065194 = 9.6161 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:32:35 <mjr_>	if every woman refused to have sex, yes there would be no more sex barring rape
Feb 14 17:32:39 <mircea_popescu>	aha.
Feb 14 17:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	so then, there's your answer.
Feb 14 17:32:51 <mircea_popescu>	if holders refused to part with their btc at any price
Feb 14 17:32:53 <mjr_>	ah, you are saying people will forcibly take your bitcoins?
Feb 14 17:32:58 <mjr_>	that is my point
Feb 14 17:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	then likely most fiat would go into stealing bitcoins.
Feb 14 17:33:22 <mjr_>	my point is that if i said i refuse to part with my dollars for anything in return
Feb 14 17:33:28 <mjr_>	what use would my dollars be?
Feb 14 17:33:34 <mjr_>	i can't eat
Feb 14 17:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	same as always.
Feb 14 17:33:48 <mjr_>	there is no amount of food i would take in compensation for my dollar
Feb 14 17:33:53 <mjr_>	no service
Feb 14 17:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	the use of your dollars is not a function of what you do or don't do.
Feb 14 17:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	that's why they're dollars.
Feb 14 17:34:18 <mjr_>	my point is that money that can't/won't be spent is worthless
Feb 14 17:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	ya, i get that, but it happens to be wrong.
Feb 14 17:34:38 <mjr_>	if you say so
Feb 14 17:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	people are easily seduced by this "we the people"
Feb 14 17:34:47 <mjr_>	no
Feb 14 17:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	it's not the will of the people that enacts the value of currency.
Feb 14 17:34:58 <mjr_>	i'm saying, in order to get something, i spend money
Feb 14 17:35:02 <mjr_>	that is how a market works
Feb 14 17:35:09 <mjr_>	if you refuse to trade, there is no market
Feb 14 17:35:18 <mjr_>	hence you get nothing
Feb 14 17:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Feb 14 17:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	you get courted.
Feb 14 17:35:39 <mjr_>	i said at any price
Feb 14 17:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 14 17:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	you still get courted.
Feb 14 17:35:48 <mjr_>	so they can offer whatever they want
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Feb 14 17:35:52 <mjr_>	you would say no
Feb 14 17:35:56 <mircea_popescu>	what, you think people don't wolfwhistle the girl who wants to be a nun ?
Feb 14 17:35:56 <mjr_>	and then starve to death
Feb 14 17:36:19 <atweiden>	!help
Feb 14 17:36:20 <assbot>	List of commands:
Feb 14 17:36:21 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Feb 14 17:36:26 <mjr_>	what you are saying is..."i can spend no resources and yet get everything i need"
Feb 14 17:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063726 = 2.7536 BTC [-]
Feb 14 17:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26979 @ 0.00063701 = 17.1859 BTC [-]
Feb 14 17:36:37 <mjr_>	sounds like a free lunch to me
Feb 14 17:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	no, im just sayingthat the value of my resources isn't a function of what i do or not do.
Feb 14 17:37:00 <mjr_>	ok, you are entitled to value them however you want
Feb 14 17:37:04 <mircea_popescu>	not me.
Feb 14 17:37:15 <mjr_>	unless that "value" is activated through a market, it doesn't matter
Feb 14 17:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	teh invisible abaccus.
Feb 14 17:37:29 <mircea_popescu>	a "market" doesn't have to mean what you think it means.
Feb 14 17:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	there's a market even if nobody is trading anything.
Feb 14 17:37:44 <mjr_>	i suppose
Feb 14 17:37:56 <mjr_>	my point is, are you saying people will give you something for nothing in return?
Feb 14 17:38:02 <mircea_popescu>	prolly not.
Feb 14 17:38:06 <mjr_>	ok
Feb 14 17:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	well, me, prolly they will cause im cool and all. but as a general rule no
Feb 14 17:38:14 <mjr_>	so we agree
Feb 14 17:38:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.02369 = 0.7107 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:38:18 <mjr_>	hehehe
Feb 14 17:38:20 <mjr_>	good point
Feb 14 17:38:33 <mjr_>	so my point is that you will have to give something up to get something
Feb 14 17:38:37 <mjr_>	doesn't have to be btc
Feb 14 17:38:41 <mjr_>	but it would have to be something
Feb 14 17:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	okay
Feb 14 17:38:51 <mjr_>	if all you have is btc and your 24 hours a day
Feb 14 17:38:59 <mjr_>	you can work....
Feb 14 17:39:03 <mjr_>	that's fine
Feb 14 17:39:10 <mjr_>	but to me defeats the purpose of building up wealth
Feb 14 17:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	ok, so you spend some btc then
Feb 14 17:39:23 <mjr_>	so i can work to feed myself
Feb 14 17:39:30 <mjr_>	ok, so now btc is flowing
Feb 14 17:39:33 <mjr_>	very expensive
Feb 14 17:39:44 <mjr_>	but still...satoshi's are now worth $100
Feb 14 17:39:56 <mjr_>	and the market keeps working
Feb 14 17:40:09 <mjr_>	this is like the story of midas lol
Feb 14 17:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 14 17:40:21 <mjr_>	what if everything you touched turned to gold
Feb 14 17:40:31 <mjr_>	you would die the richest person in the world
Feb 14 17:40:56 <mjr_>	it's funny that few actually remember the moral of that story
Feb 14 17:41:03 <mjr_>	which is that midas was cursed
Feb 14 17:41:16 <mjr_>	and hated life
Feb 14 17:41:32 <mjr_>	because he was alone and couldn't touch anyone, or eat anything, classic greek god punishment
Feb 14 17:42:12 <Lyspooner>	cool story
Feb 14 17:42:18 <mjr_>	if i remember correctly, he killed his daughter by touching her
Feb 14 17:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	imagine the midas asicminer
Feb 14 17:42:40 <mjr_>	hahaha
Feb 14 17:42:43 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 14 17:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	it does 15th/s and uses no power
Feb 14 17:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	but...
Feb 14 17:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	if you plug it in it turns your computer to worthless gold!!!
Feb 14 17:43:01 <mjr_>	hahahahaa
Feb 14 17:43:16 <mjr_>	could you make a gold computer?
Feb 14 17:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Feb 14 17:43:23 <mjr_>	i think you could...it is conductive...
Feb 14 17:43:26 <mjr_>	nah you are right
Feb 14 17:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	semiconductors require semiconductance
Feb 14 17:43:30 <mjr_>	no substrate for the chips
Feb 14 17:43:51 <mjr_>	you could make a mechanical computer i suppose but would be quite slow
Feb 14 17:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	in fact computers are an item that can not be made of any single material
Feb 14 17:44:01 <mircea_popescu>	need 2
Feb 14 17:44:16 <Lyspooner>	http://i.imgur.com/tbEQR4g.jpg
Feb 14 17:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Feb 14 17:44:33 <mjr_>	good point
Feb 14 17:44:36 <mjr_>	babbage's machine
Feb 14 17:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1461 @ 0.00065194 = 0.9525 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065325 = 2.8227 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:44:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00065326 = 5.3567 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:44:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4693 @ 0.00065356 = 3.0672 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:45:07 <mod6>	an otter! :D
Feb 14 17:45:20 <mircea_popescu>	the bashies continue to deliver!
Feb 14 17:45:22 <mircea_popescu>	"I went through the shoutbox archives and it turns out that engineer has been trying to figure out how their boundary scan tester works unsuccessfully for 3 straight days now. You kinda need that thing to figure out if the chips work correctly and if they don't why they don't work correctly."
Feb 14 17:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	this apparently culled from bfl shoutbox.
Feb 14 17:45:31 <pigeons>	well someone linked this the other day i think http://www.citizen-citizen.com/collections/all/products/gold-pills
Feb 14 17:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 307 @ 0.00065356 = 0.2006 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:45:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11293 @ 0.00065357 = 7.3808 BTC [+]
Feb 14 17:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	online story mambo #5
Feb 14 17:46:03 <mircea_popescu>	seems legit
Feb 14 17:46:56 <mjr_>	anyway, see you guys later tonight
Feb 14 17:46:59 <mjr_>	i'm off to the bar
Feb 14 17:47:00 <mjr_>	:)
Feb 14 17:47:54 <Namworld>	are we still going up?
Feb 14 17:48:01 <Namworld>	This is not going to end well...
Feb 14 17:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 14 17:48:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.00244, Best ask: 27.02134, Bid-ask spread: 0.01890, Last trade: 27.00244, 24 hour volume: 159173.80620676, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 25.36964
Feb 14 17:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	bout same
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Feb 14 17:52:05 <jurov>	just watching TPB AFK.. interesting
Feb 14 17:53:06 <jurov>	lol they speak my soul "i wanted to play with things i could never afford on my own"
Feb 14 17:55:07 <maximian>	there's a theory floating around that the recent runup may have had something to do with Reddit insiders doing a little speculating before todays announcement.
Feb 14 17:55:39 <kakobrekla>	i have a theory about that theory
Feb 14 17:56:29 <maximian>	heheh… just some fun speculatin'
Feb 14 17:56:56 <Lyspooner>	redditors don't have that kind of dough
Feb 14 17:57:04 <Lyspooner>	http://m.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/pistorius-nike-ad-i-am-the-bullet-pulled-from-local-television/article8665278/?service=mobile
Feb 14 17:57:10 <Lyspooner>	poor taste
Feb 14 17:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 507 @ 0.00065357 = 0.3314 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 18:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00065378 = 9.5452 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 18:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00065378 = 1.6671 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 18:14:44 <swhitt>	300 btc bid at 0.006 on s.dice now
Feb 14 18:15:46 <mircea_popescu>	why is that wow ?
Feb 14 18:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	maximian since when do reddit insiders have money ?
Feb 14 18:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	bah Lyspooner beat me to it
Feb 14 18:16:32 <swhitt>	not wow
Feb 14 18:16:36 <Lyspooner>	now
Feb 14 18:16:48 <Lyspooner>	mircea's watching porn again or something
Feb 14 18:17:22 <mircea_popescu>	i misread :D
Feb 14 18:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	so wait, "paralympian" is now a legitimate title ?
Feb 14 18:17:40 <Lyspooner>	i used to watch the bitcoin show with bruce wagner
Feb 14 18:18:18 <Lyspooner>	don't know if you saw the news mircea_popescu, but that legless man shot his hot girlfriend in the face this morning and killed her
Feb 14 18:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1693 @ 0.00065378 = 1.1068 BTC [+]
Feb 14 18:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck is next, John Dork, fabled Sykrim Warlock ?
Feb 14 18:18:32 <Lyspooner>	and it looks like he doesn't have a leg to stand on
Feb 14 18:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	it wasn't in my feed
Feb 14 18:18:43 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Feb 14 18:18:53 <mircea_popescu>	ok that makes me half sorry i didn't see it.
Feb 14 18:19:40 <Lyspooner>	the rumor is that she wanted to give him a valentine's day surprise, and being a south african, he mistook her for an intruder and shot her face off
Feb 14 18:19:59 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 14 18:20:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.19682, Best ask: 27.24900, Bid-ask spread: 0.05218, Last trade: 27.19682, 24 hour volume: 157796.67033685, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 25.37989
Feb 14 18:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner right. let me see here, he's a gimp and she's a trophy
Feb 14 18:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	she wanted to do dp for valentine's and he mistook the two big guys for his wife
Feb 14 18:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/14/1360871599159/South-African-sprinter-Os-010.jpg nice. ducklips and everything.
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Feb 14 18:23:12 <Lyspooner>	the dude was born without fibulae
Feb 14 18:23:24 <Lyspooner>	i'd shoot her in the face if that happened to me, too
Feb 14 18:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064918 = 2.8051 BTC [-]
Feb 14 18:23:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10654 @ 0.00064917 = 6.9163 BTC [-]
Feb 14 18:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7984 @ 0.000637 = 5.0858 BTC [-]
Feb 14 18:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	The South African FHM model
Feb 14 18:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	its incredible how ready to serve the prurient interest the web is.
Feb 14 18:24:11 <mircea_popescu>	"PHOTOS: Reeva Steenkamp's modeling pictures " as an article insert
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Feb 14 18:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063723 = 2.7535 BTC [+]
Feb 14 18:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063719 = 2.7533 BTC [-]
Feb 14 18:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3908 @ 0.00063708 = 2.4897 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 18:37:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2107 @ 0.00065102 = 1.3717 BTC [+]
Feb 14 18:37:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065581 = 2.8338 BTC [+]
Feb 14 18:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2472 @ 0.00065582 = 1.6212 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 18:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 14 18:49:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.23301, Best ask: 27.27116, Bid-ask spread: 0.03815, Last trade: 27.23300, 24 hour volume: 147220.28636604, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 25.44526
Feb 14 18:49:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065552 = 2.8325 BTC [-]
Feb 14 18:49:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4679 @ 0.00065582 = 3.0686 BTC [+]
Feb 14 18:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.03984163 = 39.8416 BTC [-]
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Feb 14 18:54:14 <Namworld>	Yeah, I sold two blocks of 1000 puts at a loss. I think I'll stop there.
Feb 14 18:54:40 <Namworld>	I want to try to get puts higher at the top... looks like we're still a bit far from the top
Feb 14 18:56:05 <Namworld>	Maybe get puts around 30 USD/BTC
Feb 14 18:56:23 <Namworld>	I think I should have waited for that instead.
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Feb 14 18:59:30 <Namworld>	might be a bit risky...
Feb 14 19:04:17 <Diablo-D3>	I wouldnt need a lawyer to register an llc, would I?
Feb 14 19:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065573 = 2.8334 BTC [-]
Feb 14 19:05:05 <BitHub>	no
Feb 14 19:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7849 @ 0.00065582 = 5.1475 BTC [+]
Feb 14 19:05:25 <BitHub>	tho, it couldn't hurt
Feb 14 19:05:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 200 @ 0.01 = 2 BTC [+]
Feb 14 19:06:16 <Namworld>	Some people have trust in me, lending at 10.95% per year it seems.
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Feb 14 19:11:09 <jurov>	congrats.. they are not s.bvps shareholders, i guess.
Feb 14 19:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 its prolly best to have someone else handle it
Feb 14 19:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	in most places you need an agent of record anyway
Feb 14 19:11:52 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yes, but in maine it just has to be someone living here
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Feb 14 19:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	ya but as in all endeavours, you're best off interacting with a professional.
Feb 14 19:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	im sure they have llc reg services there too.
Feb 14 19:12:36 <Diablo-D3>	those cost money
Feb 14 19:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	without money you don't need a llc anyway
Feb 14 19:14:55 <Diablo-D3>	silly mircea_popescu, trolling is for kids
Feb 14 19:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	i am serious.
Feb 14 19:15:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00608 = 6.08 BTC [-]
Feb 14 19:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 45690 @ 0.006 = 274.14 BTC [-]
Feb 14 19:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	if the cost of registering a llc is an issue then you shouldn't make one
Feb 14 19:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9338 @ 0.00065595 = 6.1253 BTC [+]
Feb 14 19:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065595 = 0.656 BTC [+]
Feb 14 19:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4212 @ 0.00065596 = 2.7629 BTC [+]
Feb 14 19:16:56 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: lawyers cost thousands of dollars
Feb 14 19:16:59 <Diablo-D3>	registering an llc doesnt
Feb 14 19:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	it's like a hundred or w/e. you don't need a lawyer like on retainer in any case
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Feb 14 19:18:13 <jurov>	Namworld: you are buying s.bvps at 0.00001014 ?
Feb 14 19:19:10 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 10000000 / 20
Feb 14 19:19:10 <gribble>	500000
Feb 14 19:19:17 <jurov>	seems tomorrow at this time i'll be liquidating my client's holdings by selling at mkt price, you can't offer more?
Feb 14 19:19:19 <BitHub>	<mircea_popescu> ya but as in all endeavours, you're best off interacting with a professional. - good advice
Feb 14 19:20:09 <BitHub>	problem is mircea nobody wants to pay for anything haha
Feb 14 19:20:12 <Namworld>	I wouldn't liquidate at market price, we're moving to BTCT.co and we might just buyback shares
Feb 14 19:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Feb 14 19:20:43 <pigeons>	might
Feb 14 19:20:45 <BitHub>	i think a LLP is better than a LLC
Feb 14 19:20:56 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: no it isnt.
Feb 14 19:20:57 <Namworld>	yeah, well we're a bit short on funds.
Feb 14 19:20:59 <jurov>	Namworld: "probably" "might" ? these solid plans of yours again, eh?
Feb 14 19:21:02 <BitHub>	its like a company but not so official and you get alot of benefits
Feb 14 19:21:19 <Namworld>	I can't make decisions for everyone, I'm not alone in this.
Feb 14 19:21:29 <Namworld>	But BitVPS is going very well.
Feb 14 19:21:54 <Namworld>	Within a year it should turn quite profitable.
Feb 14 19:22:00 <jurov>	so you three or four can't even decide on buyback price and just place mpex order?
Feb 14 19:22:17 <jurov>	not very good outlook for bitvps if you can;t agree on such simpel thing
Feb 14 19:22:42 <Namworld>	The others are broke. And I can't afford to buyback either.
Feb 14 19:22:57 <Namworld>	We'd like to buy back shares eventually.
Feb 14 19:23:26 <BitHub>	currently am thinking to completely shut down and unregister australian operations, keep everything personalized, keep everything in btc, never let the company touch fiat, might look into setting up offsore LLC with fake company directors (this is all perfectly legal)
Feb 14 19:23:33 <jurov>	why don't you sell on btct then?
Feb 14 19:23:47 <jurov>	;;ticker btct bitvps
Feb 14 19:23:47 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Feb 14 19:23:51 <jurov>	!ticker btct bitvps
Feb 14 19:23:53 <assbot>	[BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC),  7D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Feb 14 19:24:04 <Namworld>	Why sell?
Feb 14 19:24:14 <jurov>	cuz you're broke, lol
Feb 14 19:24:33 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: you do realize, though, an LLP is a partnership, right?
Feb 14 19:24:37 <Namworld>	The individuals are broke. BitVPS is about breaking even.
Feb 14 19:24:41 <BitHub>	yes D3
Feb 14 19:24:47 <BitHub>	i am currently in a partnership
Feb 14 19:24:50 <Namworld>	We're buying servers with what we have to reduce monthly expenses.
Feb 14 19:24:54 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, see, I am not
Feb 14 19:24:56 <Namworld>	and condensing clients a bit.
Feb 14 19:25:06 <BitHub>	than a LLC is the next best thing
Feb 14 19:25:09 <Namworld>	The current servers are monthly rent and a bit empty
Feb 14 19:25:27 <jurov>	what does that have with selling shares?
Feb 14 19:25:29 <BitHub>	D3 we will probably upgrade from a LLP to a LLC if we do a offshore company.
Feb 14 19:25:35 <Namworld>	We're nto going to sell shares.
Feb 14 19:26:17 <Namworld>	Trading will resume when we're delisted and people start getting moved.
Feb 14 19:27:47 <Namworld>	as for low bids, I have low bids on everything, but that's my personal account and I put low bids on everything, as you might have noticed.
Feb 14 19:28:00 <BitHub>	i'm starting to think its better to not have your bitcoin company based where you live, better off having it in a tax haven sort of place or somewhere a bit protected from western laws. The biggest liability a bitcoin business gives you is the ability for the gov to fuck you for not doing your taxes properly
Feb 14 19:28:04 <jurov>	i'm not interested to protract this process. i'll just sell the stuf fat whatever price and send the users after you.
Feb 14 19:29:04 <Namworld>	yeah, must not fit nicely with coin.br
Feb 14 19:29:33 <jurov>	i was thinking you already started to move the shares, using MPEx PUSH function to accept shares to be moved to btct
Feb 14 19:29:41 <jurov>	and so i told the users
Feb 14 19:30:07 <jurov>	but you're waiting to muck with STAT verification instead...
Feb 14 19:30:23 <Namworld>	No
Feb 14 19:30:48 <Namworld>	I'll be accepting a signature from the same gpg key MPEx will give us.
Feb 14 19:31:09 <Namworld>	MPEx is supposed to give us a list of key with the amount of shares tied to it on delisting.
Feb 14 19:31:24 <Namworld>	A simple signature from the gpg key used for MPEx will suffice.
Feb 14 19:32:12 <Namworld>	We can even use email addresses to import, if your users give authorization for their email to be disclosed, + signature of your holdings
Feb 14 19:32:28 <Namworld>	and I'll manage their import to BTCT.co
Feb 14 19:32:33 <jurov>	Okay. Now, why this isn't announced in condensed form I can get an URL of, instead i have to collect this information from btctalk and irc?
Feb 14 19:34:03 <Namworld>	MPEx has no method to send announcement. Plus I'm here almost everyday. I think you know that by now. I haven't seen you asking before, although I see you here almost daily too =/
Feb 14 19:35:20 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 10000000 / 20
Feb 14 19:35:21 <gribble>	500000
Feb 14 19:35:29 <jurov>	i was asking on btctalk... got less information than now, with plenty of "perhaps"
Feb 14 19:35:32 <Diablo-D3>	so hrm
Feb 14 19:36:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00065596 = 4.5917 BTC [+]
Feb 14 19:36:50 <jurov>	and your announcement about the bonds made me ask..
Feb 14 19:37:05 <jurov>	cuz i just can't understand why you're so lewd in communicating with shareholders
Feb 14 19:38:19 <jurov>	can't you just hire a $10 writer from freelancer to make a statement... oh you're broke i forgot
Feb 14 19:38:54 <Diablo-D3>	>$10
Feb 14 19:38:56 <Diablo-D3>	>freelancer
Feb 14 19:39:04 <Diablo-D3>	I cant imagine it coming out any better
Feb 14 19:40:13 <Namworld>	I'm not broke personally, but making a buyback at ~0.003 for all circulating shares, I can't do that right now.
Feb 14 19:40:17 <Namworld>	Neither is arij.
Feb 14 19:41:21 <Namworld>	But we don't have money aside for that either. Would take a good chunk.
Feb 14 19:42:35 <jurov>	i see. rg's contract says equity is 1200BTC (0.0012 BTC each)
Feb 14 19:42:52 <jurov>	he should pay then, no?
Feb 14 19:43:20 <Namworld>	If you want that, I suppose.
Feb 14 19:44:00 <jurov>	i don't have them anymore, no "wants" there.
Feb 14 19:44:24 <jurov>	just that he broke the contract, so i guess he's obliged to repay at least the equity to shareholders
Feb 14 19:44:57 <Namworld>	Still, seems preferable to handle a transfer and let each coinbr user decide what they want to do with theirs.
Feb 14 19:45:42 <jurov>	yes i gave them two options
Feb 14 19:45:51 <jurov>	http://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/s-bvps-delists-soon-action-from-shareholders-required-till-february-15th/
Feb 14 19:45:58 <jurov>	sent also by email
Feb 14 19:46:31 <jurov>	almost 2 weeks ago and no one asked about transfer so far... so they'll be liquidated. punt.
Feb 14 19:47:22 <Namworld>	Ouch
Feb 14 19:47:50 <Namworld>	How many shares?
Feb 14 19:48:07 <jurov>	not many
Feb 14 19:48:42 <Namworld>	PM
Feb 14 19:49:02 <jurov>	it's users responsibility not mine.
Feb 14 19:49:18 <jurov>	what am i going to, create btct account? why?
Feb 14 19:49:36 <Namworld>	Not needed.
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Feb 14 20:03:40 <BitHub>	wow guys, i cant believe someone actually paid me back on btcjam
Feb 14 20:03:43 <BitHub>	happy days.
Feb 14 20:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00065596 = 4.7229 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 20:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0062799 = 2.512 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 932 @ 0.00628 = 5.853 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.0062999 = 25.1996 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00629999 = 6.3 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:08:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3561 @ 0.0063 = 22.4343 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:08:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00635 = 63.5 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:08:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 107 @ 0.00639987 = 0.6848 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 893 @ 0.00639987 = 5.7151 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:09:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00639989 = 12.7998 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:09:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00639998 = 12.8 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:09:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00639999 = 32 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:09:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10107 @ 0.0064 = 64.6848 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1574 @ 0.0064 = 10.0736 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00640186 = 4.4813 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00641 = 32.05 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00674999 = 11.475 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:12:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11000 @ 0.0069 = 75.9 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:17:18 <burnside>	Jurov, btct has enough of an api now that you could broker assets there too
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Feb 14 20:17:37 <burnside>	you could go 3-legged and not have to do a central db/management
Feb 14 20:17:44 <burnside>	or just go 2-legged like you are with mpex
Feb 14 20:18:53 <burnside>	docs here: https://btct.co/faq?tab=tab5  ... they're a work in progress, but I'm happy to answer any questions.
Feb 14 20:19:53 <burnside>	I have a basic LAMP ready client you can download and pull apart, it's linked as a .zip on that page.
Feb 14 20:19:55 <jurov>	thanks, will consider it.
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Feb 14 20:21:55 <jurov>	burnside you see for yourself: if this was planned/announced better in advance, i'd be aware sooner of all possibilities...
Feb 14 20:22:35 <burnside>	yeah, there's been lots of time to plan, announcement was some time ago.
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Feb 14 20:23:22 <burnside>	communication could be better, no doubt.
Feb 14 20:31:56 <kakobrekla>	inaba delivery confidence speaks: 100 BTC that BFL will deliver ASICs. I only put the 2013 timeframe on there so there's a definitive endpoint to the bet, even though it will be over long before then.
Feb 14 20:32:04 <kakobrekla>	So, october it is, 2013 this time.
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Feb 14 20:36:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.00067 = 0.006 BTC [+]
Feb 14 20:39:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 21:03:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00065596 = 26.8944 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 21:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065083 = 2.8122 BTC [-]
Feb 14 21:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7511 @ 0.00065079 = 4.8881 BTC [-]
Feb 14 21:13:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00626 = 0.0188 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 21:26:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 14 21:26:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.31002, Best ask: 27.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08998, Last trade: 27.40000, 24 hour volume: 106786.27768202, 24 hour low: 24.50000, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 26.35512
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Feb 14 21:27:54 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla by the time last block is mined bfl delivers fo sho.
Feb 14 21:28:14 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Feb 14 21:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	it may be juicers or toasters or something, not necessarily asics
Feb 14 21:28:18 <BitHub>	how can i maximize my investments?
Feb 14 21:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	but it will be SOMETHING!
Feb 14 21:28:33 <BitHub>	i would like to earn back 1btc a day
Feb 14 21:29:46 <BitHub>	what else can you do besides, investing and loaning?
Feb 14 21:30:00 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be it no ?
Feb 14 21:30:07 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 14 21:30:08 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 0 hours, 19 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 14 21:30:18 <BitHub>	i'm not sure mircea
Feb 14 21:30:20 <thestringpuller>	Oh man where has he been it's been like a week
Feb 14 21:30:24 <BitHub>	maybe that's all i can do for now
Feb 14 21:30:36 <BitHub>	i'm meeting with business partner, going to show him mpex
Feb 14 21:30:47 <thestringpuller>	smickles: hey gimme a pong when you're back from vacation ;)
Feb 14 21:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub well, i mean in general speaking. bonds and equity, loans and investments. what else is there ?
Feb 14 21:32:29 <BitHub>	mining
Feb 14 21:32:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0065 = 0.65 BTC [-]
Feb 14 21:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	that's investing neh ?
Feb 14 21:32:47 <thestringpuller>	sell shit for bitcoins yo
Feb 14 21:32:54 <thestringpuller>	stop trying to be a speculator
Feb 14 21:32:56 <thestringpuller>	and laaazy
Feb 14 21:33:25 <thestringpuller>	why not just sell all your bitcoins and give your money to the government they know what is best for you
Feb 14 21:33:35 <BitHub>	haha k
Feb 14 21:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	i'd rather give it to strippers.
Feb 14 21:33:49 <mircea_popescu>	equally clueless but at least tits.
Feb 14 21:34:09 <BitHub>	i like giving money to women
Feb 14 21:34:13 <BitHub>	makes life so much easier
Feb 14 21:34:39 <thestringpuller>	I can't believe .04btc is a 1 USD now
Feb 14 21:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	fo reals.
Feb 14 21:34:55 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im out. take care all.
Feb 14 21:35:00 <BitHub>	peace
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Feb 14 21:50:27 <n10053>	;;ticker
Feb 14 21:50:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.30001, Best ask: 27.38989, Bid-ask spread: 0.08988, Last trade: 27.30001, 24 hour volume: 106219.75391305, 24 hour low: 24.89128, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 26.37901
Feb 14 21:51:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.74449999 = 26.0575 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 21:52:41 <deadweasel>	27.3...  reddit accepts bitcoin....
Feb 14 21:52:52 <deadweasel>	to the moon..?
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Feb 14 21:52:57 <deadweasel>	:)
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Feb 14 21:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.745 = 2.235 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 22:01:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00626 BTC [+]
Feb 14 22:02:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00627 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 22:21:58 <BitHub>	hi, could someone explain the future bonds on bitfunder?
Feb 14 22:22:06 <BitHub>	worth gettinG?
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Feb 14 22:44:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3075 @ 0.0063 = 19.3725 BTC [+]
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Feb 14 23:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4751 @ 0.00065596 = 3.1165 BTC [+]
Feb 14 23:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1296 @ 0.00065629 = 0.8506 BTC [+]
Feb 14 23:07:35 <jcpham>	ASSBOT I LOVE YOU WILL YOU MARRY ME
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Feb 14 23:13:23 <pigeons>	assbot is my valentine
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Feb 14 23:16:17 <jcpham>	ASSBOT HATES PIGEONS
Feb 14 23:18:34 <pigeons>	:(
Feb 14 23:24:06 <jcpham>	Sorry bro
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Feb 14 23:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5153 @ 0.00065806 = 3.391 BTC [+]
Feb 14 23:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3025 @ 0.00065857 = 1.9922 BTC [+]
Feb 14 23:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1922 @ 0.00065858 = 1.2658 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 00:09:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065617 = 2.8353 BTC [-]
Feb 15 00:09:48 <Namworld>	Well it is time for BitVPS to be delisted it seems.
Feb 15 00:09:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00065607 = 4.7237 BTC [-]
Feb 15 00:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14315 @ 0.00065566 = 9.3858 BTC [-]
Feb 15 00:09:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8593 @ 0.00065538 = 5.6317 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 00:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00649174 = 1.9475 BTC [-]
Feb 15 00:53:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.0006567 = 2.791 BTC [+]
Feb 15 00:55:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71 @ 0.0006567 = 0.0466 BTC [+]
Feb 15 00:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00065702 = 8.147 BTC [+]
Feb 15 00:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2654 @ 0.00065845 = 1.7475 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 00:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3357 @ 0.00065538 = 2.2001 BTC [-]
Feb 15 00:58:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065213 = 2.8179 BTC [-]
Feb 15 00:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3412 @ 0.00065212 = 2.225 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 01:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2140 @ 0.00065845 = 1.4091 BTC [+]
Feb 15 01:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3328 @ 0.00065858 = 2.1918 BTC [+]
Feb 15 01:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065879 = 2.8466 BTC [+]
Feb 15 01:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 205 @ 0.0006588 = 0.1351 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 01:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.0006588 = 7.0492 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 01:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5938 @ 0.00065212 = 3.8723 BTC [-]
Feb 15 01:29:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065201 = 2.8173 BTC [-]
Feb 15 01:29:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7241 @ 0.000652 = 4.7211 BTC [-]
Feb 15 01:33:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065205 = 2.8175 BTC [+]
Feb 15 01:33:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12529 @ 0.000652 = 8.1689 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 01:54:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 158 @ 0.00627 = 0.9907 BTC [+]
Feb 15 01:55:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00627 = 0.0125 BTC [+]
Feb 15 02:02:06 <BingoBongo>	!help
Feb 15 02:02:07 <assbot>	List of commands:
Feb 15 02:02:08 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
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Feb 15 03:14:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 449 @ 0.00627 = 2.8152 BTC [+]
Feb 15 03:16:23 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 15 03:16:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.92940, Best ask: 27.02226, Bid-ask spread: 0.09286, Last trade: 27.02226, 24 hour volume: 73226.78339943, 24 hour low: 25.40000, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 26.71467
Feb 15 03:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065467 = 2.8288 BTC [+]
Feb 15 03:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2898 @ 0.0006549 = 1.8979 BTC [+]
Feb 15 03:38:21 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 15 03:38:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.93601, Best ask: 26.99248, Bid-ask spread: 0.05647, Last trade: 26.93595, 24 hour volume: 73042.97466463, 24 hour low: 25.45508, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 26.72110
Feb 15 03:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006538 = 2.8251 BTC [-]
Feb 15 03:47:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1364 @ 0.00065376 = 0.8917 BTC [-]
Feb 15 04:00:23 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 15 04:00:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.98100, Best ask: 26.99456, Bid-ask spread: 0.01356, Last trade: 26.98000, 24 hour volume: 70407.69067279, 24 hour low: 25.64000, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 26.75498
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Feb 15 04:19:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065469 = 2.8289 BTC [+]
Feb 15 04:19:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8932 @ 0.0006549 = 5.8496 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 04:29:44 <BitHub>	hey guys, we were talking about btcjam yesterday, i can report someone actually payed me back today, i couldn't believe it, so far so good. Will probably end up just using my own site tho.
Feb 15 04:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3284 @ 0.0006549 = 2.1507 BTC [+]
Feb 15 04:31:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006552 = 2.8311 BTC [+]
Feb 15 04:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1074 @ 0.00065521 = 0.7037 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 04:43:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00627 = 0.0188 BTC [+]
Feb 15 05:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5225 @ 0.00065521 = 3.4235 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 05:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065401 = 2.826 BTC [-]
Feb 15 05:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11236 @ 0.00065376 = 7.3456 BTC [-]
Feb 15 05:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5493 @ 0.00065174 = 3.58 BTC [-]
Feb 15 05:34:11 <jurov>	;;bc,diffchange
Feb 15 05:34:12 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 6.91033476761 % based on data since last change | 10.9027196453 % based on data for last three days
Feb 15 05:34:24 <jurov>	;;bc,diff
Feb 15 05:34:25 <gribble>	3275464.5865656
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Feb 15 05:41:31 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Feb 15 05:41:31 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://btct.co || https://bitfunder.com || https://icbit.se || https://cryptostocks.com || https://therocktrading.com || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || biased msg: http://bit4x.com
Feb 15 05:41:31 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Wed Feb 13 18:53:47 2013
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Feb 15 05:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://rt.com/news/meteorite-crash-urals-chelyabinsk-283/ meteor!
Feb 15 05:57:21 *	BitHub sells everything for 5$
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Feb 15 06:10:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2501 @ 0.00065521 = 1.6387 BTC [+]
Feb 15 06:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065586 = 2.834 BTC [+]
Feb 15 06:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3578 @ 0.00065587 = 2.3467 BTC [+]
Feb 15 06:14:28 <wao>	;; ticker
Feb 15 06:14:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.50300, Best ask: 26.62363, Bid-ask spread: 0.12063, Last trade: 26.62363, 24 hour volume: 71545.81308642, 24 hour low: 25.64000, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 26.79017
Feb 15 06:21:36 <mjr__>	hey all
Feb 15 06:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	hi
Feb 15 06:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4388 @ 0.00065587 = 2.878 BTC [+]
Feb 15 06:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2412 @ 0.0006588 = 1.589 BTC [+]
Feb 15 06:28:04 <thestringpuller>	shouldn't you be doing something useful mr. popescu
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Feb 15 06:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	if i ever figure out what it'd be.
Feb 15 06:29:29 <thestringpuller>	finding a surefire method for guys to get laid?
Feb 15 06:31:25 <mircea_popescu>	as long as the guys are me i kinda have that.
Feb 15 06:32:19 *	BitHub shows girls his bitcoin balance.
Feb 15 06:35:18 <EskimoBob>	LOL, only way popescu is getting laid is if he pays
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Feb 15 06:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah that works ?
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Feb 15 06:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	sooo asicminer has like 70k usd in bills to pay ?
Feb 15 06:41:13 <wao>	how big
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Feb 15 06:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	70k + 70k actually.
Feb 15 06:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	smart of them that they have liabilities denominated in fiat tho.
Feb 15 06:42:53 <BitHub>	oh jesus
Feb 15 06:43:18 <BitHub>	oh well, have faith
Feb 15 06:43:22 <BitHub>	hopefully get some divs
Feb 15 06:44:07 <BitHub>	yeah true mirceas as the price of btc rises.
Feb 15 06:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00065562 = 2.2291 BTC [-]
Feb 15 06:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	this recent jump hel[ed them a lot.
Feb 15 06:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	25 blocks * 25 btc = 20k rather than 10k
Feb 15 06:45:51 <mircea_popescu>	but still, they need 10x as much to break even on the various loans. who knows, maybe they make it.
Feb 15 06:46:15 <BitHub>	did you read friedcats update today?
Feb 15 06:46:50 <BitHub>	they'll probably raise alot of money once they sort out their share situation and actually put it on the market
Feb 15 06:47:11 <BitHub>	that's always good to have in your back pocket
Feb 15 06:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	well...
Feb 15 06:47:58 <mircea_popescu>	how do they raise money ?
Feb 15 06:48:08 <mircea_popescu>	their shares are already sold, at .1 each, for 40k btc.
Feb 15 06:48:11 <mircea_popescu>	back in june or w/e
Feb 15 06:49:03 <BitHub>	i think they got some more for this bitfountain thing
Feb 15 06:49:31 <mircea_popescu>	but they can't sell those ?
Feb 15 06:49:36 <BitHub>	and are holding alot themselves to sell later to raise money, plus a whole bunch of other things, friedcat just did a upgrade recently
Feb 15 06:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	basically asicminer ipod on a copy of mpex contracts
Feb 15 06:49:42 <BitHub>	let me look
Feb 15 06:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	the company always keeps half the shares
Feb 15 06:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	and the shareholders can buy the other half.
Feb 15 06:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	it's not quite as clearly stated as on mpex, but it's the principle.
Feb 15 06:50:57 <BitHub>	they would be silly to have sold out all their shares
Feb 15 06:51:14 <BitHub>	so so silly
Feb 15 06:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	they have tho
Feb 15 06:51:36 <mircea_popescu>	made 400k, sold 200k at .1 each for 20k btc
Feb 15 06:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	about 150k usd at the time
Feb 15 06:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	100-150, something like that.
Feb 15 06:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	they may have ended up with some leftovers since glbse exploded and maybe some people didn't claim
Feb 15 06:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	but in any case i'd be surprised if it were much %wise
Feb 15 06:52:33 <BitHub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.1700
Feb 15 06:52:36 <BitHub>	scroll down a bit
Feb 15 06:53:28 <BitHub>	This is what in our mind when doing the IPO:
Feb 15 06:53:29 <BitHub>	1. One ASICMINER (A) share is one privileged share of our partnership (A+B) compared to Bitfountain (B) shares controlled by us founders.
Feb 15 06:53:29 <BitHub>	2. The privileges (investor protection) are exactly the four ones listed in the main thread. Besides privileges, one ASICMINER share is no different to one Bitfountain share. This means that ASICMINER shareholders also pay for maintainance and re-investment, same as the rest of us three, while at the same time also enjoy the future benefits made possible from the maintainance and
Feb 15 06:53:29 <BitHub>	re-investment costs. This is why we stated that ASICMINER shareholders are always in a better position than any device buyers when the initial biggest risk disappeared.
Feb 15 06:53:29 <BitHub>	3. The rest shares, when not sold, are kept and owned by Bitfountain. When they are sold, all income will be invested in our partner ship (A+B). This is what the non-dilution privilege of ASICMINER share means. They may be sold someday when the price is right and we need really big investment costs. But now the price is not fully appreciated in our point of view and the re-investment
Feb 15 06:53:29 <BitHub>	cost in the mid-term won't be so big that we have to sell them low.
Feb 15 06:53:29 <BitHub>	4. About the portion concerns, we believe that the evaluation of (A+B) on IPO is fair to ASICMINER purchasers, because it's already much lower than most other startups seeking for angel investments. The investor protection clauses are also a pro. Of course, most angels/VCs will get more information and control, but we could still debate whether this aspect can neutralize the advantages
Feb 15 06:53:30 <BitHub>	from low evaluation and privileges.
Feb 15 06:53:35 <BitHub>	opps, sorry
Feb 15 06:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	what do you read into that ?
Feb 15 06:55:24 <BitHub>	you're the expert :P
Feb 15 06:56:11 <BitHub>	so they can sell shares to raise funds if they really need to i guess.
Feb 15 06:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	basically, they're very convolutedly going about implementing a mpex contract.
Feb 15 06:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	no, because they already issued and they promised not to dillute.
Feb 15 06:56:42 <BitHub>	3. The rest shares?
Feb 15 06:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	"when"
Feb 15 06:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	afaik there's no actual shares in that group
Feb 15 06:58:27 <BitHub>	not till the price is right, or really needed
Feb 15 06:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	if there are any i'd be surprised there be very many.
Feb 15 06:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	afaik glbse listed them at 200k shares, so, that would be "all"
Feb 15 06:58:27 <BitHub>	but "bitfountain" will be owning them.
Feb 15 06:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	looky : this company already issued its shares, on glbse
Feb 15 06:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	they were privately held.
Feb 15 06:58:28 <BitHub>	correct
Feb 15 06:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	so... maybe some people didn't claim them, and so i guess they may revert to bitfountain
Feb 15 06:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	but otherwise, there's nothing more to sell.
Feb 15 06:58:28 <BitHub>	okey, so they wont be issuing any more than 200k shares in total now or in the future.
Feb 15 06:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	its what they said.
Feb 15 06:58:29 <BitHub>	that's good in a way.
Feb 15 06:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	(which is a silly thing to say, but hey)
Feb 15 06:58:58 <BitHub>	too many s.dice shares out there :P
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Feb 15 06:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	actually let's see. if they mine about 15 blocks a day consistently that's
Feb 15 06:59:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 15 * 25 * 30
Feb 15 06:59:38 <gribble>	11250
Feb 15 06:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	about par with s.dice
Feb 15 06:59:52 <BitHub>	we were playing with some calcs in the lobby
Feb 15 07:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	course, they have about
Feb 15 07:00:01 <BitHub>	i think its 25 blocks?
Feb 15 07:00:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 150 / 28
Feb 15 07:00:11 <gribble>	5.35714285714
Feb 15 07:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	5.5k worth of debt, but that's not such a big deal
Feb 15 07:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	they do have electricity/maintenance costs, and there is the risk their miners blow up (which eventually they will, these things wear)
Feb 15 07:00:57 <BitHub>	we roughly worked as an investor you need to buy about 266 shares at .4 for about 106 btc
Feb 15 07:00:59 <BitHub>	out*
Feb 15 07:01:10 <BitHub>	to make 1btc a day off the divs
Feb 15 07:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	so as it is currently i guess asicminer is worth maybe 2-400k BTC if it were listed on MPEx
Feb 15 07:01:22 <BitHub>	so takes about 3- half months to make your money back
Feb 15 07:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	which would make each share worth up to BTC even.
Feb 15 07:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	wow.
Feb 15 07:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	of course current rate of return won't last, but what ever lasts.
Feb 15 07:01:57 <BitHub>	there was a bunch of us in #bitcoin working it out :) not sure of exact figures but it was pretty close to that
Feb 15 07:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	im curious if they end up shootingthemselves in the foot by listing on some illiquid platform and never realising those prices tho
Feb 15 07:02:42 <BitHub>	cant someone create one on mpex?
Feb 15 07:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	one what ?
Feb 15 07:02:49 <BitHub>	a p.t
Feb 15 07:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	if i allow that someone
Feb 15 07:02:59 <BitHub>	asicminer pass thru share
Feb 15 07:03:02 <BitHub>	hehe ;)
Feb 15 07:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	which i might, if they're credible.
Feb 15 07:04:12 <BitHub>	have you recieved any legal issues yet?
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Feb 15 07:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean ?
Feb 15 07:07:01 <BitHub>	with mpex, all good so far?
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Feb 15 07:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	a, sure.
Feb 15 07:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	you mean have i been sued or anything ?
Feb 15 07:14:11 <BitHub>	oh not sued but emails n stuff like threating what you guys are doing?
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Feb 15 07:14:12 <BitHub>	well threating to sue i guess
Feb 15 07:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	nope, nothing at all.
Feb 15 07:15:43 <BitHub>	sweet
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Feb 15 07:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_
Feb 15 07:16:28 <BitHub>	i was thinking about what you were saying when we first talked, about keeping things offshore, keeping everything in btc, no fiat. I think its the better way to go.
Feb 15 07:16:28 <mircea_popescu>	oops
Feb 15 07:16:53 <mircea_popescu>	i don't recall this particular one, but yes btc accounting is the better way.
Feb 15 07:18:51 <BitHub>	yeah i said to my partner, why are we so egar to turn btc back into cash? better off just taking as much fiat as you can and turning it all into btc and you can leverage it alot more, and if we really need more, we can just cash out now and again.
Feb 15 07:18:58 <BitHub>	some money*
Feb 15 07:19:57 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: huh?
Feb 15 07:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	pm.
Feb 15 07:24:57 <Bowjob>	morning
Feb 15 07:25:17 <Bowjob>	by that i mean 4:25 an
Feb 15 07:25:21 <Bowjob>	am
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Feb 15 07:29:04 <mircea_popescu>	heya
Feb 15 07:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dying-dollar-why-us-currency-213606781.html
Feb 15 07:30:08 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Feb 15 07:30:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00065474 = 2.0952 BTC [-]
Feb 15 07:30:51 <wao>	hah
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Feb 15 07:34:07 <Bowjob>	have you guys seen pbsideachannel's bitcoin video
Feb 15 07:34:27 <Bowjob>	it's about how bitcoin and hats.. yes hats are changing currency.
Feb 15 07:34:51 <Bowjob>	and before I was a bitcoiner, I first had my hand trading hats... hats!
Feb 15 07:35:05 <Bowjob>	so I graduated from hats, and switched to bitcoin
Feb 15 07:36:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 15 07:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	is this etsy university ?
Feb 15 07:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144319.0
Feb 15 07:39:02 <wao>	Bowjob: url?
Feb 15 07:39:41 <Bowjob>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_9R45RLNR0
Feb 15 07:39:55 <Bowjob>	I take a few issues with the way he described TF2 economy though.
Feb 15 07:40:12 <Bowjob>	it's a rare scenario where peole use metal to buy hats.
Feb 15 07:40:50 <Bowjob>	rather you use earbuds to purchase hats and keys and a bunny head and a beret to purchase unusuals
Feb 15 07:41:50 <Bowjob>	also, santa hats and gift boxes are used to purchase goods in tf2.. similar to how we have different bills irl
Feb 15 07:42:29 <Bowjob>	buying unusuals with metal is like buying a ferrarri with pennies. it clogs you inventory space.
Feb 15 07:42:33 <Bowjob>	apart from that, good vid
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Feb 15 07:48:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00065474 = 1.2767 BTC [-]
Feb 15 07:54:37 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 30
Feb 15 07:54:39 <gribble>	There are currently 31025.047 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 882899.724413 USD in total.
Feb 15 07:54:47 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 32
Feb 15 07:54:49 <gribble>	There are currently 35308.208 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 1016698.74139 USD in total.
Feb 15 07:55:46 <Bowjob>	whaT?
Feb 15 07:56:03 <Bowjob>	;;tocler
Feb 15 07:56:03 <gribble>	Error: "tocler" is not a valid command.
Feb 15 07:56:09 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 15 07:56:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.48457, Best ask: 26.50180, Bid-ask spread: 0.01723, Last trade: 26.50181, 24 hour volume: 79278.52254235, 24 hour low: 25.64000, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 26.77956
Feb 15 07:56:17 <Bowjob>	oh
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Feb 15 08:13:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4119 @ 0.00065474 = 2.6969 BTC [-]
Feb 15 08:13:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 301 @ 0.00065562 = 0.1973 BTC [+]
Feb 15 08:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5790 @ 0.0006588 = 3.8145 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 08:18:13 <DeadWeasel>	we should get a FOIA request for bitcoin.
Feb 15 08:18:21 <DeadWeasel>	see what the government has written about it already.
Feb 15 08:21:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00066004 = 8.5805 BTC [+]
Feb 15 08:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1664 @ 0.00066112 = 1.1001 BTC [+]
Feb 15 08:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9418 @ 0.00066133 = 6.2284 BTC [+]
Feb 15 08:21:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4368 @ 0.00066171 = 2.8903 BTC [+]
Feb 15 08:26:13 <kakobrekla>	http://say26.com/meteorite-in-russia-all-videos-in-one-place
Feb 15 08:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1032 @ 0.00066171 = 0.6829 BTC [+]
Feb 15 08:30:17 <error4733>	http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/asteroidflyby.html
Feb 15 08:35:08 <Bowjob>	we went back to 26.39 levels
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Feb 15 08:40:37 <DeadWeasel>	ask walls at 27.4
Feb 15 08:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3650 @ 0.00630919 = 23.0285 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 08:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4879 @ 0.00066202 = 3.23 BTC [+]
Feb 15 08:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00066221 = 2.6488 BTC [+]
Feb 15 08:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61 @ 0.00066261 = 0.0404 BTC [+]
Feb 15 08:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00649174 = 0.6492 BTC [+]
Feb 15 08:56:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00066261 = 2.3191 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 09:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00066261 = 0.9277 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 09:04:39 <Bowjob>	so guys, am I evil if I'm gonna hold other people's funds for 10% in BTC since they can't figure the wallet out?
Feb 15 09:05:01 <Bowjob>	they want to invest in BTC but they can't be bothered to learn how it woks, ect
Feb 15 09:05:30 <Bowjob>	I agreed but only to 150 bucks worth.. I don't want them crying when their coins become worth shit
Feb 15 09:07:24 <Anduck>	but....
Feb 15 09:07:26 <Anduck>	that will never happen, right?
Feb 15 09:07:29 <Anduck>	RIGHT????
Feb 15 09:08:01 <Bowjob>	who knows
Feb 15 09:08:15 <Bowjob>	I told them about it when it was around 15 dollars each
Feb 15 09:08:26 <Bowjob>	didnt want to act till they were 25 dollars
Feb 15 09:08:37 <Bowjob>	now.. they want to swarm me with dollars
Feb 15 09:09:05 <Anduck>	well
Feb 15 09:09:05 <Bowjob>	I told them its stupidly easy to get it.. and initially I didn't want to hold their coins
Feb 15 09:09:11 <Anduck>	tbh it will go to 50 usd easily
Feb 15 09:09:17 <Anduck>	y¨'
Feb 15 09:09:18 <Anduck>	well
Feb 15 09:09:22 <Anduck>	just...
Feb 15 09:09:22 <Bowjob>	then.. I thought, heck. that 10% could be 1000 bucks in the future
Feb 15 09:09:23 <Bowjob>	or more
Feb 15 09:09:27 <Anduck>	point them to bitaddress.org
Feb 15 09:09:30 <Bowjob>	and its free money
Feb 15 09:09:31 <Anduck>	and make them print paper wallets
Feb 15 09:09:43 <Bowjob>	no dude. these are technically impaired people
Feb 15 09:09:48 <Anduck>	well
Feb 15 09:09:52 <Anduck>	print them the paper wallets
Feb 15 09:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2866 @ 0.00065979 = 1.891 BTC [-]
Feb 15 09:09:57 <Bowjob>	who work menial jobs, ect hoping a quick buck
Feb 15 09:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065342 = 2.8234 BTC [-]
Feb 15 09:10:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11189 @ 0.00065341 = 7.311 BTC [-]
Feb 15 09:10:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00065174 = 1.9878 BTC [-]
Feb 15 09:10:07 <Bowjob>	or a "longshot" to getting rich
Feb 15 09:10:12 <Anduck>	well Bowjob sell them f2f coins and sent them to their paper wallets
Feb 15 09:10:26 <Anduck>	send*'
Feb 15 09:11:04 <Bowjob>	actually, I thought of putting it in my brain wallet instead.. they run the risk of me dying and not getting their shit back though
Feb 15 09:11:26 <Anduck>	imo paper wallet is easier
Feb 15 09:11:28 <Anduck>	paper wallets they own
Feb 15 09:11:37 <Anduck>	and sell them f2f the coins
Feb 15 09:11:42 <Bowjob>	f2f?
Feb 15 09:11:46 <Anduck>	face to face
Feb 15 09:11:47 <Anduck>	i mean
Feb 15 09:11:55 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 15 09:11:58 <Bowjob>	well
Feb 15 09:12:04 <Anduck>	make paper wallet, put like 10 btc in it and sell it for 10 btc worth of usd to them
Feb 15 09:12:19 <Bowjob>	it hurts me to sell bitcoin. idk why lol
Feb 15 09:12:23 <Anduck>	.....
Feb 15 09:12:32 <Anduck>	buy the bitcoins from market with the dollarzss
Feb 15 09:12:44 <Anduck>	then put _those_ bitcoins in the paper wallet..
Feb 15 09:12:50 <Bowjob>	well see if they'll agree
Feb 15 09:13:07 <Bowjob>	I get my 10% commision either way
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Feb 15 09:26:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065205 = 2.8175 BTC [+]
Feb 15 09:26:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1378 @ 0.00065174 = 0.8981 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 09:31:19 <DeadWeasel>	Bowjob: don't sell, you'll make more by holding
Feb 15 09:31:51 <Bowjob>	of course. thats why they hand me the cash first, then purchase bitcoins at the spot rate
Feb 15 09:31:59 <Bowjob>	then hold their coins for them
Feb 15 09:32:14 <Bowjob>	I think 10% is kinda steep, but it wasnt my idea
Feb 15 09:32:15 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 15 09:42:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
Feb 15 09:45:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39 @ 0.00066261 = 0.0258 BTC [+]
Feb 15 09:45:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4261 @ 0.00066328 = 2.8262 BTC [+]
Feb 15 09:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5360 @ 0.00065174 = 3.4933 BTC [-]
Feb 15 09:48:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1840 @ 0.0006508 = 1.1975 BTC [-]
Feb 15 09:52:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00627 BTC [+]
Feb 15 09:58:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.749 = 2.996 BTC [+]
Feb 15 09:58:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.7499999 = 2.25 BTC [+]
Feb 15 09:58:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.75 = 22.5 BTC [+]
Feb 15 10:01:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2481 @ 0.0006508 = 1.6146 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 10:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4603 @ 0.0006508 = 2.9956 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 10:36:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 73 @ 0.75 = 54.75 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 10:42:41 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 15 10:42:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.11726, Best ask: 27.15525, Bid-ask spread: 0.03799, Last trade: 27.16598, 24 hour volume: 81022.17859612, 24 hour low: 25.82200, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 26.83371
Feb 15 10:43:03 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 15 10:43:04 <gribble>	26.84
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Feb 15 10:54:10 <DeadWeasel>	when the price hits 58.50 I'll be happy
Feb 15 10:56:38 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap gribble
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Feb 15 11:09:56 <iz>	http://youtu.be/2F6YkBa_Tig
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Feb 15 11:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6767 @ 0.00065081 = 4.404 BTC [+]
Feb 15 11:16:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3483 @ 0.0006508 = 2.2667 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 11:28:32 <Diablo-D3>	iz: if she wasnt already married, I'd marry her
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Feb 15 11:33:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.759 = 6.831 BTC [+]
Feb 15 11:36:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.759 BTC [+]
Feb 15 11:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00065115 = 7.2929 BTC [+]
Feb 15 11:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00065935 = 3.0989 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 12:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065924 = 2.8486 BTC [-]
Feb 15 12:06:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6379 @ 0.00065935 = 4.206 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 12:17:59 <burnside>	any of the havelock s.dice buyers here?
Feb 15 12:18:19 <burnside>	curious as to why they're paying the 0.75 when it's 0.6x everywhere else.
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Feb 15 12:26:08 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Hey, I can't find it now: where was the original offer to shareholders to be able to trade-in 200 (or so) shares for their future boards?
Feb 15 12:26:18 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Re: asicminer.
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Feb 15 12:33:45 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: for what?
Feb 15 12:33:53 <Diablo-D3>	oh
Feb 15 12:33:58 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno if they ever offered that
Feb 15 12:34:02 <Diablo-D3>	I dont remember it, anyways
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Feb 15 12:42:05 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic: only 200 shares though? wow
Feb 15 12:42:15 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if I get the rack for free if I order a racks worth =P
Feb 15 12:47:37 <midnightmagic>	:-/
Feb 15 12:47:43 <midnightmagic>	dammit.
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Feb 15 12:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065181 = 2.8165 BTC [-]
Feb 15 12:50:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1829 @ 0.00065209 = 1.1927 BTC [+]
Feb 15 12:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065104 = 2.8131 BTC [-]
Feb 15 12:56:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00065099 = 5.4358 BTC [-]
Feb 15 12:57:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4137 @ 0.0006508 = 2.6924 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 13:26:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065188 = 2.8168 BTC [+]
Feb 15 13:26:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00065209 = 4.6161 BTC [+]
Feb 15 13:27:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00065209 = 2.804 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 13:33:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.759 = 6.831 BTC [+]
Feb 15 13:33:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.759 BTC [+]
Feb 15 13:37:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00065209 = 1.1738 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 14:00:26 <truffles>	rly quiet in here
Feb 15 14:03:29 <Bowjob>	anyone here got gored by the bear trap?
Feb 15 14:04:00 <truffles>	nope
Feb 15 14:04:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065086 = 2.8124 BTC [-]
Feb 15 14:04:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9379 @ 0.0006508 = 6.1039 BTC [-]
Feb 15 14:04:49 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 15 14:04:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.00000, Best ask: 27.06999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06999, Last trade: 27.06999, 24 hour volume: 71831.38472749, 24 hour low: 26.10300, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 26.98392
Feb 15 14:05:08 <jurov>	what bear trap?
Feb 15 14:05:40 <jurov>	i started to slowly exercise my calls, like, one per day... but otherwise am bullish
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Feb 15 14:06:17 <Bowjob>	a couple days ago when we hit 21
Feb 15 14:06:25 <Bowjob>	then rebounded to 25 the same day
Feb 15 14:07:16 <Bowjob>	Mhm, someone lost 200 BTC to the dice.. ouch
Feb 15 14:07:38 <truffles>	how can u tell this bowjob?
Feb 15 14:08:01 <Bowjob>	http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=b4d75b&limit=100&min_bet=0&status=ALL
Feb 15 14:08:16 <Bowjob>	its on the biggest losers page
Feb 15 14:08:27 <truffles>	oh
Feb 15 14:08:34 <Bowjob>	its just 10 mins ago
Feb 15 14:09:33 <Bowjob>	looks like a mini whale address.. they lost all their money
Feb 15 14:09:52 <truffles>	5k seems like a small blind..
Feb 15 14:10:04 <truffles>	if indeed a "whale"
Feb 15 14:10:20 <Bowjob>	well, mini whale. baby
Feb 15 14:10:39 <Bowjob>	it had 7k bitcoins recieved
Feb 15 14:10:47 <Bowjob>	so hes been playing for a while
Feb 15 14:10:59 <truffles>	almost busto ok
Feb 15 14:11:10 <truffles>	well i guess bitcoins are going up up up
Feb 15 14:11:16 <Bowjob>	yeah 1 btc left
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Feb 15 14:13:30 <Bowjob>	im gonna need a job soon
Feb 15 14:13:34 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 15 14:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006518 = 2.8164 BTC [+]
Feb 15 14:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00065209 = 2.8881 BTC [+]
Feb 15 14:14:08 <Bowjob>	I got like 2 weeks left then I'll be cashflow negative
Feb 15 14:16:24 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.DIFF.MAR
Feb 15 14:16:25 <assbot>	Things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun.
Feb 15 14:16:31 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m XDIFF.MAR
Feb 15 14:16:32 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Feb 15 14:17:39 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 15 14:17:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0429 / 0.0429 / 0.0429 (110 shares, 4.72 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06514848 / 0.089 (330 shares, 21.50 BTC)
Feb 15 14:17:47 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.JUN
Feb 15 14:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.JUN] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  /  /  ( shares,  BTC), 30D: 0.08995 / 0.09418269 / 0.2 (260 shares, 24.49 BTC)
Feb 15 14:17:56 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.SEP
Feb 15 14:17:57 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Feb 15 14:20:17 <Bowjob>	wtf is this..
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Feb 15 14:20:25 <Bowjob>	Avalon batch no 2's specs keep on changing
Feb 15 14:20:35 <Bowjob>	it was greater than 68, then at least 66.. now
Feb 15 14:20:42 <Bowjob>	its greater than 65
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Feb 15 14:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00065209 = 2.641 BTC [+]
Feb 15 14:27:46 <kakobrekla>	20:13.28 ( Bowjob ) im gonna need a job soon
Feb 15 14:27:52 <kakobrekla>	wrong direction of looking at things.
Feb 15 14:28:14 <Bowjob>	..mhm?
Feb 15 14:29:06 <kakobrekla>	well
Feb 15 14:29:43 <kakobrekla>	to me, having a job means you arent smart enough to live without having a job
Feb 15 14:29:54 <kakobrekla>	so you should be trying not to have a job.
Feb 15 14:30:56 <Bowjob>	eh, i can live without a job for a few years.. it just gets boring watching bitcoins grow
Feb 15 14:31:14 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: lol
Feb 15 14:31:19 <kakobrekla>	why only for a few years
Feb 15 14:31:42 <Bowjob>	my bitcoin holdings arent that worth a fortune yet
Feb 15 14:31:51 <EskimoBob>	so you invent this bs or is it copy paste from someones blog?
Feb 15 14:32:03 <kakobrekla>	the what?
Feb 15 14:32:18 <kakobrekla>	i have been living by that since dunno when
Feb 15 14:32:18 <EskimoBob>	" kakobrekla | to me, having a job means you arent smart enough to live without ..... "
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Feb 15 14:33:05 <Bowjob>	well, tbh, I'm funded by unemployment insurance, I took those monies and put it in bitcoins and watch bitcoins shoot up in value.
Feb 15 14:33:13 <Bowjob>	i'll be recalled soon
Feb 15 14:33:29 <EskimoBob>	kakobrekla: trust fund baby?
Feb 15 14:33:39 <kakobrekla>	translate?
Feb 15 14:33:58 <EskimoBob>	are you are smart enough to use google?
Feb 15 14:34:06 <EskimoBob>	you must be
Feb 15 14:34:13 <kakobrekla>	obviously NOT!
Feb 15 14:34:38 <EskimoBob>	i guess so. So, how do you make your money? LOL
Feb 15 14:35:51 <EskimoBob>	street corner scams? :)
Feb 15 14:35:54 <kakobrekla>	all sorts of stuff, i was doing some 3d photography when i was 18 then i was freelancing for a while, then building solar power plants for over a year and lots of stuff in between
Feb 15 14:36:15 <EskimoBob>	you did have a job
Feb 15 14:36:20 <kakobrekla>	not really
Feb 15 14:36:25 <EskimoBob>	???
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Feb 15 14:36:38 <kakobrekla>	well not a regular job, i was never employed
Feb 15 14:36:40 <EskimoBob>	can you define a "job"
Feb 15 14:37:11 <kakobrekla>	mostly short term well payed stuff
Feb 15 14:37:16 <kakobrekla>	paid
Feb 15 14:37:22 <EskimoBob>	"never employed"? You obviously did
Feb 15 14:37:29 <kakobrekla>	did what
Feb 15 14:37:49 <EskimoBob>	have a job
Feb 15 14:37:58 <EskimoBob>	employed
Feb 15 14:38:05 <kakobrekla>	its more of a projects thing
Feb 15 14:38:07 <kakobrekla>	i had projects
Feb 15 14:38:09 <kakobrekla>	not jobs
Feb 15 14:38:13 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Feb 15 14:38:18 <EskimoBob>	OK, never mind
Feb 15 14:38:19 <TomServo>	who's on first?
Feb 15 14:38:25 <kakobrekla>	yeah, my employment card shows 0 days
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Feb 15 14:38:59 <EskimoBob>	good for you, I guess
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Feb 15 14:39:09 <EskimoBob>	and wtf is "employment card" ?
Feb 15 14:39:31 <kakobrekla>	dunno, they have this shit here
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Feb 15 14:39:51 <kakobrekla>	to track the record of your work
Feb 15 14:39:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.00067 = 0.004 BTC [+]
Feb 15 14:41:00 <kakobrekla>	anywho i dont need to do any of that anymore i guess a part of that is btcs fault.
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Feb 15 14:45:15 <EskimoBob>	here where :)
Feb 15 14:46:07 <EskimoBob>	BTC 30 is sooooo close and still so far
Feb 15 14:46:30 <DeadWeasel>	i just got the free amazon ec2 instance setup.
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Feb 15 14:46:39 <DeadWeasel>	nice to have a free server out there.
Feb 15 14:46:46 <DeadWeasel>	i highly recommend it.
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Feb 15 14:57:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4788 @ 0.00065209 = 3.1222 BTC [+]
Feb 15 15:00:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2312 @ 0.00065503 = 1.5144 BTC [+]
Feb 15 15:00:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065097 = 2.8128 BTC [-]
Feb 15 15:00:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7517 @ 0.00065079 = 4.892 BTC [-]
Feb 15 15:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065865 = 2.846 BTC [+]
Feb 15 15:01:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60 @ 0.00065867 = 0.0395 BTC [+]
Feb 15 15:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00065868 = 10.473 BTC [+]
Feb 15 15:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4495 @ 0.00065935 = 2.9638 BTC [+]
Feb 15 15:02:05 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 15 15:02:05 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 17 hours, 51 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
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Feb 15 15:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065113 = 2.8135 BTC [-]
Feb 15 15:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5929 @ 0.00065079 = 3.8585 BTC [-]
Feb 15 15:12:14 <DeadWEasel>	it's so dead here today
Feb 15 15:12:16 <DeadWEasel>	;;slap deadweasel
Feb 15 15:12:18 *	gribble slaps deadweasel with a luxurious triple plume
Feb 15 15:12:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065107 = 2.8133 BTC [+]
Feb 15 15:12:50 <DeadWEasel>	what can I do with an amazon web server?
Feb 15 15:12:59 *	DeadWEasel is now known as DeadWeasel
Feb 15 15:13:33 <pigeons>	same stuff you can do with any web server, comeon man
Feb 15 15:13:37 <truffles>	so doing freelance means not being employed ok
Feb 15 15:13:50 <pigeons>	and its only free for a year by the way
Feb 15 15:14:14 <pigeons>	and you pay for going over on I/O and stuff
Feb 15 15:17:55 <jurov>	DeadWEasel, set up btctalk mirror
Feb 15 15:18:10 <burnside>	AWS is only a good deal if you need to compute on and off (can shutdown machine when not in use) or if you need to be able to massively scale quickly.
Feb 15 15:18:13 <jurov>	so that scumbags can't just remove posts
Feb 15 15:18:23 <burnside>	for an always-on small server, there are way better deals out there.
Feb 15 15:20:23 <DeadWeasel>	yeah, i'm just using to upgrade my sysadmin skills
Feb 15 15:20:33 <DeadWeasel>	wanted something always on
Feb 15 15:20:35 <DeadWeasel>	and it's free for a year
Feb 15 15:20:38 <DeadWeasel>	so yeah, learning
Feb 15 15:21:02 <DeadWeasel>	jurov: why?
Feb 15 15:21:09 <DeadWeasel>	who wants to be on btctalk?
Feb 15 15:21:52 <jurov>	i mean, it's easy to make mess  on btctalk and then remove whole threads as if nothing happened
Feb 15 15:22:34 <jurov>	if someone archived stuff, that couldn't happen
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Feb 15 15:28:35 <DeadWeasel>	nice though, might be a good learning tool
Feb 15 15:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4160 @ 0.00065092 = 2.7078 BTC [-]
Feb 15 15:31:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 95 @ 0.00612 = 0.5814 BTC [-]
Feb 15 15:31:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1905 @ 0.00612 = 11.6586 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 15:36:35 <pigeons>	the hardest part about mirroring forums is not geting detected and blocked
Feb 15 15:36:35 <kakobrekla>	thats not that hard.
Feb 15 15:36:35 <Namworld>	Ah, I believe it is time for S.BVPS to get delisted.
Feb 15 15:36:35 <pigeons>	no its not, but its easier than the scraping, storing and retrevial
Feb 15 15:36:35 <pigeons>	*harder
Feb 15 15:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00065079 = 3.0587 BTC [-]
Feb 15 15:45:56 <EskimoBob>	lol, bloggercom "new" styles are so badly written that google's shitty browser chrome can not display them properly
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Feb 15 15:54:09 <mod6>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 15 15:54:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.000637 / 0.0006518 / 0.00066328 (874816 shares, 570.21 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00065288 / 0.0007 (18491986 shares, 12,073.07 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066233 / 0.0007 (74190390 shares, 49,138.58 BTC)
Feb 15 15:54:14 <mod6>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 15 15:54:15 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.006 / 0.00626871 / 0.0069 (112814 shares, 707.20 BTC), 7D: 0.00556183 / 0.00620172 / 0.0069 (1415112 shares, 8,776.14 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00581855 / 0.0075 (6759704 shares, 39,331.73 BTC)
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Feb 15 15:58:44 <mod6>	whats up :]
Feb 15 16:01:26 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 15 16:01:26 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 18 hours, 50 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 15 16:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1619 @ 0.00065092 = 1.0538 BTC [+]
Feb 15 16:10:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065549 = 2.8324 BTC [+]
Feb 15 16:10:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2907 @ 0.0006555 = 1.9055 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 16:13:11 <pigeons>	https://btcjam.com/listings/1811
Feb 15 16:15:06 <mod6>	yah smickles been afk for a minute
Feb 15 16:17:25 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Feb 15 16:17:28 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: yo
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Feb 15 16:25:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065522 = 2.8312 BTC [-]
Feb 15 16:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8440 @ 0.0006555 = 5.5324 BTC [+]
Feb 15 16:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89 @ 0.00065687 = 0.0585 BTC [+]
Feb 15 16:29:13 <Namworld>	lol, pigeoons... nice find
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Feb 15 16:38:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9088 @ 0.00065687 = 5.9696 BTC [+]
Feb 15 16:38:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00065745 = 3.7475 BTC [+]
Feb 15 16:38:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2458 @ 0.00065935 = 1.6207 BTC [+]
Feb 15 16:38:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1851 @ 0.00066344 = 1.228 BTC [+]
Feb 15 16:38:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18233 @ 0.00066478 = 12.1209 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 16:53:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24617 @ 0.00066478 = 16.3649 BTC [+]
Feb 15 16:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3783 @ 0.00066511 = 2.5161 BTC [+]
Feb 15 16:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1883 @ 0.00065085 = 1.2256 BTC [-]
Feb 15 16:55:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065084 = 2.8123 BTC [-]
Feb 15 16:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38543 @ 0.00065079 = 25.0834 BTC [-]
Feb 15 16:55:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1053 @ 0.00065024 = 0.6847 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 17:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1960 @ 0.00065035 = 1.2747 BTC [+]
Feb 15 17:20:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+]
Feb 15 17:21:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.385 BTC [+]
Feb 15 17:22:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.00067 = 0.006 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 17:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00649174 = 3.5705 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 17:32:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00065901 = 5.1732 BTC [+]
Feb 15 17:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	Notification Our company’s courier couldn’t make the delivery of parcel.REASON:
Feb 15 17:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	Postal code contains an error.  LOCATION OF YOUR PARCEL: KnoxvilleFort  DELIVERY
Feb 15 17:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	STATUS: sort order  SERVICE: One-day Shipping  NUMBER OF YOUR PARCEL: OFJ1EY6KIJ
Feb 15 17:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	FEATURES: NoLabel is enclosed to the letter.  Print a label and show it at your post
Feb 15 17:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	office.
Feb 15 17:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone is wondering where the avalons are...
Feb 15 17:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	knoxville.
Feb 15 17:42:16 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: wut?
Feb 15 17:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	ya know, the lost 60 asics
Feb 15 17:45:33 <DeadWeaselX>	are in knoxville, you say?
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Feb 15 17:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	surely.
Feb 15 17:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	so says an anonymous email i got from a russian server
Feb 15 17:52:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.02295 BTC [-]
Feb 15 17:52:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00066508 = 1.3302 BTC [+]
Feb 15 17:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066509 = 2.8739 BTC [+]
Feb 15 17:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6817 @ 0.00066511 = 4.5341 BTC [+]
Feb 15 17:52:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7212 @ 0.00066592 = 4.8026 BTC [+]
Feb 15 17:59:18 <DeadWeaselX>	haha
Feb 15 18:02:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23743515.jpg haha that kid is supersweet
Feb 15 18:03:02 <Diablo-D3>	The service is unavailable.
Feb 15 18:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	aw
Feb 15 18:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 388 @ 0.00066592 = 0.2584 BTC [+]
Feb 15 18:03:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00066695 = 0.867 BTC [+]
Feb 15 18:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11471 @ 0.00066812 = 7.664 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 18:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00648 = 1.296 BTC [-]
Feb 15 18:13:41 <mircea_popescu>	Bove uses several metrics to make his point, focusing on the dollar as a percentage of total world money supply.That total has plunged from nearly 90 percent in 1952 to closer to 15 percent now. He also notes that the Chinese yuan, the yen and the euro each have a greater share of that total.
Feb 15 18:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	le ouch.
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Feb 15 18:18:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00615378 = 3.6923 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 18:27:07 <Namworld>	So mircea, S.BVPS being delisted today?
Feb 15 18:28:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4568 @ 0.00065901 = 3.0104 BTC [-]
Feb 15 18:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 897 @ 0.00065106 = 0.584 BTC [-]
Feb 15 18:31:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1142 @ 0.00065106 = 0.7435 BTC [-]
Feb 15 18:31:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065104 = 2.8131 BTC [-]
Feb 15 18:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11055 @ 0.00065103 = 7.1971 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 18:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	done deal.
Feb 15 18:35:30 *	DeadWeasel is now known as deadweasel
Feb 15 18:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76506.msg1457231#msg1457231
Feb 15 18:35:40 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld ^
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Feb 15 18:45:30 <usagi>	Hello chaps how's tea?
Feb 15 18:45:41 <deadweasel>	there is not, the wench is on the phone again.
Feb 15 18:45:55 *	deadweasel drinks fortifying wine to maintain composure
Feb 15 18:46:11 <usagi>	deadweasel you better take another sip, did you see the silver price recently?
Feb 15 18:46:23 <deadweasel>	no, please tell
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Feb 15 18:46:32 <usagi>	I can't believe this but I actually think it's going to intersect with BTC now
Feb 15 18:46:35 <usagi>	it's like 1.08/oz
Feb 15 18:46:49 <usagi>	news flash: bitcoins worth more than precious metals
Feb 15 18:46:50 <deadweasel>	forgive my ignorance, is that up or down?
Feb 15 18:47:03 <deadweasel>	I didn't know if silver crashed or btc just high enough
Feb 15 18:47:05 <usagi>	it's an all time low
Feb 15 18:47:07 <deadweasel>	not watching silver
Feb 15 18:47:10 <deadweasel>	hooray!
Feb 15 18:47:14 <deadweasel>	no worries, it will bounce
Feb 15 18:47:21 <deadweasel>	precious metal, there's a reason you got into it
Feb 15 18:47:25 <usagi>	Well both are denominated in USD, but moving in opposite directions.
Feb 15 18:47:37 <usagi>	So if your playing bitcoins, it's a neat way to get some leverage
Feb 15 18:47:45 <truffles>	still early days
Feb 15 18:47:46 <deadweasel>	they are not to be looked at relative to each other.
Feb 15 18:48:17 <usagi>	Gold stops just got taken out and sentiment is split
Feb 15 18:48:19 <deadweasel>	how would you leverage this opposite force?
Feb 15 18:48:24 <usagi>	I think metals are putting in a bottom
Feb 15 18:48:32 <usagi>	This week or next week will be the bottom, then I look for a top in BTC
Feb 15 18:48:49 <deadweasel>	you think they are related somehow?
Feb 15 18:49:02 <usagi>	Well its like this, if you think BTC is rising, what do you do, buy more BTC right?
Feb 15 18:49:15 <deadweasel>	i try not to, but I sometimes I do, stupidly
Feb 15 18:49:26 <usagi>	So at some point BTC has to fall
Feb 15 18:49:33 <deadweasel>	it will, but what distance?
Feb 15 18:49:40 <usagi>	You don't know
Feb 15 18:49:46 <deadweasel>	tell me about it
Feb 15 18:50:05 <deadweasel>	so you are saying hedge with metals when they are at the bototm?
Feb 15 18:50:08 <deadweasel>	bottom*
Feb 15 18:50:15 <deadweasel>	and btc is at a top?
Feb 15 18:50:16 <usagi>	Well, if you pick a top and sell BTC for dollars
Feb 15 18:50:18 <deadweasel>	SUPPOSEDLY
Feb 15 18:50:30 <usagi>	Then BTC falls 50% and you buy back twice the BTC
Feb 15 18:50:35 <deadweasel>	fuck I love groove salad radio station.
Feb 15 18:50:45 <deadweasel>	i  hear you
Feb 15 18:50:50 <usagi>	But say you bought silver instead. And silver rose 50%. Then you buy back 3x the BTC.
Feb 15 18:51:06 <usagi>	You could theoretically take over the world like this.
Feb 15 18:51:22 <usagi>	What is groove salad?
Feb 15 18:51:22 <deadweasel>	i am with you.  I like your jib.  only, I'd have to correctly guess one top and one bottom of unrelated commodoties
Feb 15 18:51:35 <deadweasel>	it's a radio station, one moment.
Feb 15 18:51:36 <usagi>	Yeah I thought the top was back at $20 lol
Feb 15 18:52:14 <deadweasel>	me too, but I was on here, and some asshat said to hold. so I did.
Feb 15 18:52:18 <deadweasel>	now he's not an asshat
Feb 15 18:52:29 <deadweasel>	and I try not to get too far
Feb 15 18:52:51 <deadweasel>	http://somafm.com/play/groovesalad
Feb 15 18:53:03 <deadweasel>	I hate lyrics, but I love to chill, so this fills the gap
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Feb 15 18:54:04 <usagi>	oh yeah groove salad is kind of cool
Feb 15 18:54:05 <deadweasel>	usagi, has this method worked for you repeatedly?  is there some relation in the peaks and dips of the two commodoties?
Feb 15 18:54:08 <truffles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvnkAtWcKYg
Feb 15 18:54:26 <usagi>	Deadweasel no one knows what the market will do except the big players.
Feb 15 18:54:26 <deadweasel>	are you making money with TU?
Feb 15 18:54:32 <usagi>	Yep.
Feb 15 18:54:34 <deadweasel>	true that
Feb 15 18:54:35 <deadweasel>	good
Feb 15 18:54:54 <deadweasel>	i'm glad, is it at a multiplier of the rising value of btc?
Feb 15 18:55:08 <truffles>	thought the song was fitting
Feb 15 18:55:11 <deadweasel>	as in, have you been able to sell BTC, grab silver, and then buy btc in a valley?
Feb 15 18:55:42 <Namworld>	mircea_popescu
Feb 15 18:55:46 <usagi>	My current strategy is to buy silver with bitcoins because I believe silver is putting in a bottom simultaneously with btc putting in a top
Feb 15 18:55:58 <Namworld>	signatures verified, everything looks fine. Thank you.
Feb 15 18:56:04 <deadweasel>	I've been looking at your fund for several weeks. no real movement on bitfunder.
Feb 15 18:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	np np
Feb 15 18:56:18 <deadweasel>	silver is low
Feb 15 18:56:18 <mod6>	(15:47) < usagi> it's an all time low << pretty funny since Silver was @ 9.13 in oct 2008
Feb 15 18:56:18 <deadweasel>	no doubt
Feb 15 18:56:24 <usagi>	No I suppose no one will buy it until we put out a couple reports
Feb 15 18:56:38 <deadweasel>	might help.
Feb 15 18:56:53 <deadweasel>	mircea_popescu's link to the angry mob about bitVPS was quite entertaining
Feb 15 18:57:00 <usagi>	Thanks for groove salad, this is good stuff
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Feb 15 18:57:15 <usagi>	I've never actually listened to internet radio before. This sounds like command and conquer stuff
Feb 15 18:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Feb 15 18:57:22 <deadweasel>	i hope so.  no problem.  keep me at the keyboard working for longer than i could with lyrics and pop shit.
Feb 15 18:57:40 <deadweasel>	http://somafm.com/play/groovesalad
Feb 15 18:57:41 *	truffles likes command and conquer
Feb 15 18:57:41 <deadweasel>	that
Feb 15 18:57:45 <usagi>	man this is giving me flashbacks lol
Feb 15 18:57:50 <deadweasel>	your welcome
Feb 15 18:57:54 <deadweasel>	send me btc for free drugs
Feb 15 18:58:00 <deadweasel>	:)
Feb 15 18:58:04 <usagi>	whose free drugs? :p
Feb 15 18:58:14 <deadweasel>	true dat, you paid them at some point.
Feb 15 18:58:48 <deadweasel>	1GdtkZzhZTzBssUq6bnE27cz4rv5SJ4sr5  in case your flashback is actually good enough.
Feb 15 18:58:53 <deadweasel>	they never are
Feb 15 18:59:21 <truffles>	deadweasel do u like paramore?
Feb 15 18:59:47 <deadweasel>	i have one of their t-shirts, but I got from goodwill, so I don't know.
Feb 15 18:59:51 <deadweasel>	it's very soft
Feb 15 18:59:54 <deadweasel>	so I bought it
Feb 15 19:00:13 <truffles>	bands cool imo
Feb 15 19:00:42 <deadweasel>	thx truffles , if I 'member I'll jam into pandora
Feb 15 19:01:02 <truffles>	i liked decoded ^^
Feb 15 19:01:03 <deadweasel>	mad packet loss here, waiting on new wifi card.
Feb 15 19:01:34 <deadweasel>	can't even get the new walking dead
Feb 15 19:01:51 <deadweasel>	too much loss.  IRC don't mind though.  nice old school protocol.
Feb 15 19:01:55 <deadweasel>	expects packet loss
Feb 15 19:02:21 <truffles>	this season is miles ahead of last
Feb 15 19:02:38 <deadweasel>	but fucking black samurai chick, i want to know!!!!
Feb 15 19:02:48 <deadweasel>	i bet she dies
Feb 15 19:02:52 <deadweasel>	dumb ho got shot
Feb 15 19:02:58 <deadweasel>	samurai evolution
Feb 15 19:03:07 <truffles>	what episode are u on though
Feb 15 19:03:23 <deadweasel>	so3e09 methinks, according ot torrentz.eu
Feb 15 19:03:26 <truffles>	if not the latest i wont spoiler
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Feb 15 19:03:46 <deadweasel>	she just showed up in that last, like 2 months ago, with a basket full of baby formula
Feb 15 19:04:11 <truffles>	i heard that she got raped inthe book by the gov
Feb 15 19:04:29 <truffles>	would make sense why she's all out for him
Feb 15 19:04:43 <truffles>	comic*
Feb 15 19:04:46 <deadweasel>	yeah it does.
Feb 15 19:05:06 <truffles>	the blonde is so dumb
Feb 15 19:05:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2779 @ 0.00066812 = 1.8567 BTC [+]
Feb 15 19:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066947 = 2.8928 BTC [+]
Feb 15 19:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8017 @ 0.00066948 = 5.3672 BTC [+]
Feb 15 19:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00066986 = 2.7129 BTC [+]
Feb 15 19:05:58 <truffles>	or its just the writers failing..
Feb 15 19:06:33 <deadweasel>	she is quite the twat.  she should have lez'ed up with blacky and started their own colony.
Feb 15 19:06:40 <deadweasel>	dumbasses
Feb 15 19:06:47 <truffles>	lol
Feb 15 19:06:53 <deadweasel>	i would clean up in zombie apocalypse.
Feb 15 19:07:09 <truffles>	lezed up with blacky thats a new phrase lolz
Feb 15 19:07:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00067002 = 1.34 BTC [+]
Feb 15 19:07:33 <deadweasel>	my best description.  biased, yet accurate.
Feb 15 19:07:41 <deadweasel>	they totally wanted to.
Feb 15 19:07:59 <truffles>	they couldve done fine with the walker strat the black samurai had
Feb 15 19:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00067002 = 3.6851 BTC [+]
Feb 15 19:08:22 <deadweasel>	no shit, plus she discovered the "cover myself in organs" routine.
Feb 15 19:08:35 <deadweasel>	that plus here zombie brother on chains, ain't no thang!
Feb 15 19:08:41 <deadweasel>	here * her
Feb 15 19:08:51 <deadweasel>	brothers.
Feb 15 19:08:53 <truffles>	but forgot about it when fighting earls brother
Feb 15 19:09:01 <deadweasel>	i hate that guy
Feb 15 19:09:20 <usagi>	So I was thinking about buying a Makita SP6000 plunge saw
Feb 15 19:09:30 <deadweasel>	is that circular?
Feb 15 19:09:37 <usagi>	But maybe what I really want is a mitre saw, since I already have a router.
Feb 15 19:09:37 <deadweasel>	or otherwise?
Feb 15 19:09:54 <usagi>	Well the plunge saw comes with a guiderail and I can buy an attachment to fit my jigsaw and router on it
Feb 15 19:09:58 <deadweasel>	plunge != circuluar
Feb 15 19:10:12 <usagi>	It's circular, like a normal circular saw but you can plunge it
Feb 15 19:10:50 <deadweasel>	my imagination fails me, usagi, but I will return, after I get the woman to feed me.
Feb 15 19:11:05 <usagi>	Makita has been making some really interesting tools recently, the SP6000 can do bevel cuts and groove cuts and has automatic locks at 22.5 degrees for fine furniture work
Feb 15 19:11:40 <usagi>	My problem is I can't make cross section cuts very well with my jigsaw so I am thinking of building my own jigsaw table and guiderail out of wood.
Feb 15 19:11:55 <usagi>	I've already made a number of wooden swords and bows and arrows I am considering selling on bitcointalk.org
Feb 15 19:12:12 <usagi>	I found some bird feathers (unknown bird) outside, and I sharpened a chopstick and glued them on, works great
Feb 15 19:13:02 <truffles>	link to this art?
Feb 15 19:13:17 <usagi>	You want photos? I could make some later I guess, I guess I should
Feb 15 19:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10323 @ 0.00067002 = 6.9166 BTC [+]
Feb 15 19:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00066742 = 4.6386 BTC [-]
Feb 15 19:13:43 <truffles>	yea pics or u know what
Feb 15 19:13:45 <usagi>	I'm working on a table now but it's my first one and I screwed it up. I should have glued the wood first and drilled a guidehole, I ruined it lol
Feb 15 19:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2027 @ 0.00065985 = 1.3375 BTC [-]
Feb 15 19:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18988 @ 0.00065984 = 12.529 BTC [-]
Feb 15 19:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00065544 = 6.1611 BTC [-]
Feb 15 19:13:58 <usagi>	... sure, later, lol
Feb 15 19:14:32 <truffles>	sounds like a mess though feathers.
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Feb 15 19:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4112 @ 0.0006522 = 2.6818 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 19:32:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Feb 15 19:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 438 @ 0.0006695 = 0.2932 BTC [+]
Feb 15 19:36:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00998 BTC [-]
Feb 15 19:36:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.00999 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Feb 15 19:38:43 <kakobrekla>	usagi just go long on silver with btc?
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Feb 15 19:49:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 7 @ 0.045 = 0.315 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 19:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	There's also a "Discrete Delivery" option, in which McCabe delivers the condoms to the student's door without the blue siren on his head.
Feb 15 19:55:00 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha this is insanity.
Feb 15 19:55:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/This-College-Student-Founded-A-Startup-Delivering-4279375.php
Feb 15 20:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2262 @ 0.00066452 = 1.5031 BTC [-]
Feb 15 20:02:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2438 @ 0.00066738 = 1.6271 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 20:07:08 <fullluser>	invite code for coinbr?
Feb 15 20:09:07 <pigeons>	39deGbwZts
Feb 15 20:09:42 <fullluser>	thanks
Feb 15 20:09:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 255 @ 0.0063 = 1.6065 BTC [+]
Feb 15 20:09:53 <pigeons>	no problem
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Feb 15 20:13:50 <Namworld>	Thanks pass-through buyers
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Feb 15 20:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3162 @ 0.00066738 = 2.1103 BTC [+]
Feb 15 20:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4871 @ 0.00067311 = 3.2787 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 20:21:05 <usagi>	kakobrekla; hi
Feb 15 20:21:24 <usagi>	kakobrekla; I'm not a financial advisor but if you believe that btc is topping yeah thats my strategy
Feb 15 20:21:50 <usagi>	Also a healthy dose of betting made on bitbet.us
Feb 15 20:22:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.739 = 2.217 BTC [-]
Feb 15 20:23:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.736 = 2.944 BTC [-]
Feb 15 20:23:20 <usagi>	just bet another bitcoin against bfl lol
Feb 15 20:23:54 <Namworld>	eh
Feb 15 20:24:02 <Namworld>	They might ship eventually... I hope so
Feb 15 20:24:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.735 = 3.675 BTC [-]
Feb 15 20:24:10 <Namworld>	Or I'll regret selling my ASICMINERs
Feb 15 20:24:20 <usagi>	ASICMINER is worth 1 btc/share
Feb 15 20:24:54 <Namworld>	If you say so... but no one is buying that high
Feb 15 20:25:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 65 @ 0.72000001 = 46.8 BTC [-]
Feb 15 20:26:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.72 = 14.4 BTC [-]
Feb 15 20:26:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00065993 = 4.2565 BTC [-]
Feb 15 20:27:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7102 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 20:28:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.705 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 20:29:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 129 @ 0.00067311 = 0.0868 BTC [+]
Feb 15 20:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00067312 = 4.9811 BTC [+]
Feb 15 20:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6084 @ 0.00067342 = 4.0971 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 20:34:03 <Namworld>	Where's bugpowder?
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Feb 15 20:37:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 3489 @ 0.00195 = 6.8036 BTC [-]
Feb 15 20:44:08 <Namworld>	Anyone selling some BBET for under 0.001?
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Feb 15 20:54:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00067275 = 2.4219 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 20:57:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2718 @ 0.00067275 = 1.8285 BTC [-]
Feb 15 20:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066437 = 2.8707 BTC [-]
Feb 15 20:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1461 @ 0.00066436 = 0.9706 BTC [-]
Feb 15 21:00:05 <deadweasel>	bfl won't deliver before march 1st.
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Feb 15 21:00:14 <deadweasel>	why are so many betting for it?
Feb 15 21:01:49 <deadweasel>	oh fawk.  coinbase "offline for maintenance"  8 hours after my 100 btc were sent but never received.
Feb 15 21:01:52 <deadweasel>	dafuw
Feb 15 21:01:53 <deadweasel>	q
Feb 15 21:01:59 <deadweasel>	shittles
Feb 15 21:02:24 <Namworld>	... ok ...
Feb 15 21:02:55 <Namworld>	Do they do that regularly?
Feb 15 21:02:56 <deadweasel>	holy shit, i have a confirmed transcation for .10 BTC
Feb 15 21:02:58 <deadweasel>	NO
Feb 15 21:03:02 <deadweasel>	not 100
Feb 15 21:03:32 <deadweasel>	but when they were online my 'pending' transaction (never done that before either) was not in the block yet, it said.
Feb 15 21:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00067334 = 1.818 BTC [+]
Feb 15 21:03:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067341 = 2.9098 BTC [+]
Feb 15 21:03:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13416 @ 0.00067342 = 9.0346 BTC [+]
Feb 15 21:03:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3663 @ 0.00067352 = 2.4671 BTC [+]
Feb 15 21:03:48 <deadweasel>	ohmagherd
Feb 15 21:04:46 <Namworld>	100, .100, 0.00000100, what's the difference really? There's "100" in each.
Feb 15 21:05:16 <Namworld>	Probably just an error or something. Do they do manual withdrawals or anything?
Feb 15 21:05:26 <deadweasel>	i doubt it.
Feb 15 21:05:45 <deadweasel>	they got half a million $ from ycombinator venture capital.
Feb 15 21:05:52 <deadweasel>	i doubt they are scamming, but I am still not feeling good.
Feb 15 21:05:55 <deadweasel>	sickly like.
Feb 15 21:06:10 <deadweasel>	https://coinbase.com/
Feb 15 21:06:13 <deadweasel>	yuck
Feb 15 21:07:34 <Namworld>	Do they keep large hotwallets? I don't know anything about coinbase.
Feb 15 21:07:41 <deadweasel>	less than 20% they say.
Feb 15 21:07:43 <deadweasel>	rest is offline
Feb 15 21:08:06 <Namworld>	Seems reasonable although a bit much
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Feb 15 21:08:25 <deadweasel>	their userbase has skyrocketted.
Feb 15 21:08:32 <deadweasel>	so maybe growing pains.
Feb 15 21:08:36 <deadweasel>	gonna check forums.
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Feb 15 21:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4587 @ 0.00067352 = 3.0894 BTC [+]
Feb 15 21:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1222 @ 0.00067651 = 0.8267 BTC [+]
Feb 15 21:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00066955 = 1.3726 BTC [-]
Feb 15 21:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00066458 = 0.3987 BTC [-]
Feb 15 21:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00066458 = 0.8307 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 21:31:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2471 @ 0.00066458 = 1.6422 BTC [-]
Feb 15 21:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00066436 = 4.2047 BTC [-]
Feb 15 21:33:10 <deadweasel>	Coinbase ‏@coinbase
Feb 15 21:33:12 <deadweasel>	Performing a quick upgrade, please excuse our downtime.\
Feb 15 21:33:32 <deadweasel>	what a crock.  can tweet but not respond to support emails in 3 days.  granted todays was the only real important one.
Feb 15 21:33:38 <deadweasel>	the rest just questions.
Feb 15 21:34:06 <deadweasel>	they were professional at first, but then again, they all are.
Feb 15 21:34:36 <BitHub>	people are really bad at customer support
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Feb 15 21:35:03 <BitHub>	maybe they're just too busy.
Feb 15 21:35:50 <deadweasel>	the only thing they should be busy with is telling customers where their missing 100BTC
Feb 15 21:35:53 <deadweasel>	is
Feb 15 21:36:22 <deadweasel>	I mean, a quick email to affected customers, seriously, I'm not out of line here.
Feb 15 21:36:45 <deadweasel>	i know it's bitcoin, but they really had the ability to make the first professional company out of it.
Feb 15 21:37:15 <BitHub>	yeah nah seriously that's not coool
Feb 15 21:37:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067643 = 2.9229 BTC [+]
Feb 15 21:37:27 <BitHub>	customers should always come first.
Feb 15 21:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00067651 = 2.6242 BTC [+]
Feb 15 21:37:47 <deadweasel>	their transaction have normally been 2 second to 10 minutes.  Today's never entered a block at all.
Feb 15 21:37:52 <BitHub>	especially if it involves any missing btc
Feb 15 21:38:08 <deadweasel>	no doubt.
Feb 15 21:38:12 <BitHub>	see that's worrying when that sort of stuff starts happening
Feb 15 21:38:34 <BitHub>	don't panic but i would start protecting myself, maybe
Feb 15 21:38:43 <deadweasel>	protect how?
Feb 15 21:39:03 <deadweasel>	it's not chump change, but I won't go hungry.
Feb 15 21:39:08 <deadweasel>	didn't risk what I couldn't afford.
Feb 15 21:39:17 <deadweasel>	but ain't gonna let it go, either.
Feb 15 21:39:25 <BitHub>	more than fair
Feb 15 21:39:48 <deadweasel>	i've got a screenshot of the pending transaction.
Feb 15 21:39:58 <deadweasel>	hash and all advanced details.
Feb 15 21:40:29 <deadweasel>	Coinbase ‏@coinbase
Feb 15 21:40:30 <deadweasel>	To those with unconfirmed transactions - rest assured, we're currently working to fix the issue.
Feb 15 21:40:44 <deadweasel>	haha, they got my Reddit/btctalk/support emails/tweets finally
Feb 15 21:41:08 <BitHub>	:)
Feb 15 21:41:31 <deadweasel>	dammit, I guess I would fix the problem faster than I would communicate too.   I just wish doing that wasn't more profitable for them.
Feb 15 21:41:34 <BitHub>	you have to keep an eye on these companies all the time, they could close down at any  minute or pull some dodgy crap.
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Feb 15 21:42:14 <deadweasel>	and i will.
Feb 15 21:44:03 <deadweasel>	i actually opened a twitter account to let them know.
Feb 15 21:44:06 <deadweasel>	i hate twitter
Feb 15 21:44:19 <deadweasel>	with a passion
Feb 15 21:44:19 <BitHub>	haha
Feb 15 21:49:34 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 15 21:49:34 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 0 hours, 38 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 15 21:49:40 <thestringpuller>	:(
Feb 15 21:50:04 <deadweasel>	where'd smickles go?
Feb 15 21:50:15 <deadweasel>	feel like I've seen him since 1 week?
Feb 15 21:50:20 <deadweasel>	maybe not
Feb 15 21:50:29 <deadweasel>	IRC don't lie, often.
Feb 15 21:50:50 <truffles>	smickles must be fun
Feb 15 21:52:04 <deadweasel>	;;slap truffles
Feb 15 21:52:05 *	gribble slaps truffles with a bulky catfish
Feb 15 21:52:06 <deadweasel>	not as fun as me
Feb 15 21:52:19 <deadweasel>	or more so, not sure.
Feb 15 21:52:24 <deadweasel>	;;slap truffles
Feb 15 21:52:25 *	gribble slaps truffles with a sophistical AK-47
Feb 15 21:52:30 <deadweasel>	that's better
Feb 15 21:52:39 *	deadweasel hugs truffles
Feb 15 21:52:57 <deadweasel>	S&M IRC.  it's my specialty.
Feb 15 21:54:35 <truffles>	oh
Feb 15 21:54:53 <truffles>	sure i have high pain tolerance
Feb 15 21:55:05 <deadweasel>	then you're all set.
Feb 15 21:55:26 <truffles>	yep
Feb 15 21:55:26 <deadweasel>	i will take it out on you if my 100BTC doesn't show up from coinbase, the dirty bastards.
Feb 15 21:55:55 <truffles>	lol im getting a lesson in scamcoins in #bitcoin
Feb 15 21:55:58 <truffles>	interesting stuff
Feb 15 21:56:15 <thestringpuller>	smickles is my broker
Feb 15 21:56:24 <thestringpuller>	so I can't make any trades without his presence
Feb 15 21:56:27 <deadweasel>	aw shit, strin
Feb 15 21:56:35 <truffles>	he ran off with it oh oh
Feb 15 21:56:35 <deadweasel>	gpuller
Feb 15 21:56:46 <deadweasel>	nah, well maybe, but naw
Feb 15 21:56:48 <thestringpuller>	he's a very good guy so I doubt it
Feb 15 21:57:00 <deadweasel>	I'm a very good guy, but 10,000 btc might change that.
Feb 15 21:57:03 <deadweasel>	human nature, baby.
Feb 15 21:57:05 <truffles>	is there truely a good person out there
Feb 15 21:57:09 <thestringpuller>	it's not 10,000 btc
Feb 15 21:57:11 <deadweasel>	i'm terrible at this comformating stuff.
Feb 15 21:57:20 <thestringpuller>	and he has no reason to run off with it?
Feb 15 21:57:20 <truffles>	i think im pretty good person but....
Feb 15 21:57:20 <deadweasel>	comforting*
Feb 15 21:57:29 <deadweasel>	;;slap thestringpuller
Feb 15 21:57:30 *	gribble slaps thestringpuller with a triptych trout
Feb 15 21:57:32 <deadweasel>	does that help?
Feb 15 21:57:53 *	deadweasel hugs and squeezes thestringpuller 
Feb 15 21:57:59 <thestringpuller>	do you know what CHAP is?
Feb 15 21:58:03 <deadweasel>	no
Feb 15 21:58:06 <truffles>	why tempt them to though thestringpuller
Feb 15 21:59:04 <deadweasel>	now that I opened this stupid twitter account to talk to coinbase, is there any bitcoin related twatters i should follow?
Feb 15 21:59:11 <thestringpuller>	 He is described as the personification of a sophisticated challenge-handshake authentication protocol which guards the Oracle.
Feb 15 21:59:14 <deadweasel>	I mean twatters, it's not a mistake.
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Feb 15 21:59:18 <thestringpuller>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge-handshake_authentication_protocol
Feb 15 21:59:30 <deadweasel>	then, no.
Feb 15 21:59:32 <deadweasel>	nothing.
Feb 15 21:59:34 <deadweasel>	less than nothing.
Feb 15 22:00:00 <truffles>	i havent done a single twat
Feb 15 22:00:06 <truffles>	and im chatting on the internets
Feb 15 22:00:14 <truffles>	chatty*
Feb 15 22:00:16 <deadweasel>	my first twat was tonight.
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Feb 15 22:00:38 <truffles>	no longer a twat virgin
Feb 15 22:00:41 <deadweasel>	busted my twat-cherry
Feb 15 22:00:47 <truffles>	slow pony
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Feb 15 22:02:36 <deadweasel>	bithub, who are you, like on the bitcoin circle?
Feb 15 22:02:54 <deadweasel>	i see you do smooth transcation on OTC
Feb 15 22:03:01 <deadweasel>	bye bithub
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Feb 15 22:03:20 <deadweasel>	bithub, who are you, like on the bitcoin circle?
Feb 15 22:03:24 <deadweasel>	i see you do smooth transcation on OTC
Feb 15 22:03:28 <deadweasel>	welcome back btw
Feb 15 22:03:37 <BitHub>	thanks, sorry got dc.
Feb 15 22:03:49 <BitHub>	bitcoin circle?
Feb 15 22:03:55 <deadweasel>	i made that up
Feb 15 22:04:10 <deadweasel>	you know what btc is, so you are in.   i made that up too.
Feb 15 22:04:34 <deadweasel>	srsly, i'm the guy that lurks #bitcoin-assets and watches the big-wigs make decision on their MPEX and passthoughs
Feb 15 22:04:43 <deadweasel>	it's somewhat interesting and enlightening to watch
Feb 15 22:04:56 <deadweasel>	makes much more realistic.
Feb 15 22:05:05 <deadweasel>	all I do is speculate.
Feb 15 22:05:19 <truffles>	all i do is watch
Feb 15 22:05:19 <deadweasel>	and spent 10BTC or so on passthoughs.
Feb 15 22:05:19 <truffles>	im 1 step below
Feb 15 22:05:19 <truffles>	sigh
Feb 15 22:05:28 <deadweasel>	truffles, that is fine.
Feb 15 22:05:36 <deadweasel>	learning is far more valuable that btc.
Feb 15 22:05:40 <deadweasel>	until I cash out, that is.
Feb 15 22:05:43 <deadweasel>	then it's not.
Feb 15 22:05:46 <truffles>	lol
Feb 15 22:05:54 <deadweasel>	except spritually and whatnote.
Feb 15 22:05:57 <deadweasel>	whatnote.
Feb 15 22:05:59 <deadweasel>	whatnot.
Feb 15 22:05:59 <deadweasel>	shit
Feb 15 22:06:02 <truffles>	meh i feel like im in a standstill with time
Feb 15 22:06:03 <deadweasel>	stupid E's
Feb 15 22:06:12 <deadweasel>	you are.  buy 5 BTCs.
Feb 15 22:06:18 <deadweasel>	before it hits 32
Feb 15 22:06:20 <truffles>	until ive sorted my life ...
Feb 15 22:06:27 <truffles>	its gonna go down
Feb 15 22:06:32 <truffles>	i might buy then
Feb 15 22:06:35 <deadweasel>	then back up.
Feb 15 22:06:36 <truffles>	def under 20
Feb 15 22:06:39 <deadweasel>	when down to 20 the other day
Feb 15 22:06:42 <deadweasel>	should bought
Feb 15 22:06:44 <BitHub>	ahh :)
Feb 15 22:06:45 <deadweasel>	for like 5 minutes
Feb 15 22:06:54 <truffles>	im not in a rush
Feb 15 22:06:56 <BitHub>	i'm only about 6months in
Feb 15 22:07:00 <deadweasel>	you got some of that?
Feb 15 22:07:03 <deadweasel>	 bithub?
Feb 15 22:07:07 <BitHub>	last months starting using irc seriously
Feb 15 22:07:13 <deadweasel>	me too!
Feb 15 22:07:26 <deadweasel>	was it Mircea Pop stupids article?>
Feb 15 22:07:30 <deadweasel>	that got you here?
Feb 15 22:07:48 <BitHub>	lol what?
Feb 15 22:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2060 @ 0.00066436 = 1.3686 BTC [-]
Feb 15 22:08:04 <deadweasel>	he puts IRC chat logs from this channel on his blog.
Feb 15 22:08:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1542 @ 0.00065993 = 1.0176 BTC [-]
Feb 15 22:08:09 <deadweasel>	they make it to bitcointalk.org
Feb 15 22:08:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2977 @ 0.00065764 = 1.9578 BTC [-]
Feb 15 22:08:42 <truffles>	i wonder if im a topic of discussion
Feb 15 22:08:45 <truffles>	that would be cool
Feb 15 22:08:57 <truffles>	oh wait im blocked booo
Feb 15 22:09:11 <deadweasel>	probably, if you were blocked.
Feb 15 22:09:18 <deadweasel>	it just means you can't be scammed by MP.
Feb 15 22:09:25 <deadweasel>	his MPEX is gonna die, and soon.
Feb 15 22:09:36 <truffles>	im bummed that he chose this route though
Feb 15 22:09:38 <deadweasel>	no chance in hell it stays up.  GLBSE was shut down.  MPEX will be too.
Feb 15 22:09:44 <truffles>	we were supposed to have our "debate"
Feb 15 22:10:00 <deadweasel>	fuck your debate, biggest waste of your life ever.  you have that time back.
Feb 15 22:10:10 <deadweasel>	if you wait here for that debate, then he has won.
Feb 15 22:10:27 <truffles>	depends on if u like debating or not
Feb 15 22:10:27 <deadweasel>	why discourse with an email spammer?
Feb 15 22:10:41 <deadweasel>	but your opponent must be worthy of you.
Feb 15 22:10:51 <deadweasel>	if he is, then your worth not what I thought it was.
Feb 15 22:10:54 <truffles>	meh i thought he was an interesting person
Feb 15 22:11:09 <deadweasel>	he is.  but is dragged towards the darkness.
Feb 15 22:11:18 <deadweasel>	untrustworthy, will turn on anyone for a laugh.
Feb 15 22:11:22 <deadweasel>	because he has the BTC,
Feb 15 22:11:25 <truffles>	both light and dark are interesting !!!
Feb 15 22:11:36 <deadweasel>	no doubt.
Feb 15 22:11:38 <deadweasel>	been in both.
Feb 15 22:11:54 <truffles>	since im more of "light" im drawn to the "dark" ldo
Feb 15 22:12:01 <deadweasel>	got out of rehab 2.5 years ago for christs sake.
Feb 15 22:12:26 <deadweasel>	and I know there is much darker, i've seen it go on.
Feb 15 22:12:29 <truffles>	only out of curiousity though, darkness isnt for me
Feb 15 22:12:37 <deadweasel>	me either.
Feb 15 22:13:01 <truffles>	why do u need rehab
Feb 15 22:13:05 <truffles>	just tell urself no
Feb 15 22:13:13 <deadweasel>	i do now.
Feb 15 22:13:22 <deadweasel>	i was on ritalin since age 6.
Feb 15 22:13:34 <deadweasel>	then i started pot/drinking to sleep around 12 y.o.
Feb 15 22:13:46 <truffles>	early start geez..
Feb 15 22:13:49 <deadweasel>	then high school etc, then college selling drugs, then xanax and oxycontin etc.
Feb 15 22:14:02 <deadweasel>	well, I was basically forced to take the ritalin, the rest came naturally.
Feb 15 22:14:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.68 = 17 BTC [-]
Feb 15 22:14:17 <deadweasel>	used the ritalin as excuse to keep going.
Feb 15 22:14:21 <deadweasel>	my bad.
Feb 15 22:14:21 <BitHub>	i think mpex might be okey
Feb 15 22:14:21 <truffles>	uve come a long way from there
Feb 15 22:14:32 <deadweasel>	how do you figure?
Feb 15 22:14:40 <deadweasel>	didn't glbse take $$$?
Feb 15 22:14:45 <deadweasel>	is that the only reason?
Feb 15 22:14:45 <BitHub>	yeah
Feb 15 22:14:50 <truffles>	ure here talking about some nerdy thing called bitcoin
Feb 15 22:14:51 <BitHub>	neferaio or whatever his name was
Feb 15 22:14:58 <truffles>	oh nm
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Feb 15 22:15:26 <deadweasel>	AndroUser512: quit taking steroids!
Feb 15 22:15:46 <AndroUser512>	?
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Feb 15 22:15:54 <truffles>	i only recently learned steroids only shrinks the sacks
Feb 15 22:15:54 <AndroUser512>	Oh
Feb 15 22:16:05 <deadweasel>	well, MPEX has lasted longer, and will yet.  but I don't see long term.  No way to get big w/out FEDS clamping on on echanges
Feb 15 22:16:09 <AndroUser512>	I get it :)
Feb 15 22:16:12 <deadweasel>	ha
Feb 15 22:16:12 <deadweasel>	yes
Feb 15 22:16:30 <deadweasel>	andro, pretty sure that's a roid of somekind.  or your name means you sexually androgenous.  whatever that means.
Feb 15 22:16:37 <deadweasel>	no idea
Feb 15 22:16:43 <deadweasel>	i need sleep.
Feb 15 22:16:50 <AndroUser512>	This is thickasthieves btw on my tablet on vacation
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Feb 15 22:17:05 <truffles>	"on vacation"...
Feb 15 22:17:09 <deadweasel>	haha, enjoy your vacay!
Feb 15 22:17:18 <deadweasel>	where at?  somewhere fun I hope?  a beach!?
Feb 15 22:17:21 <AndroUser512>	I am very much
Feb 15 22:17:26 <deadweasel>	yaya fun!
Feb 15 22:17:30 <AndroUser512>	St augustine fl
Feb 15 22:17:35 <deadweasel>	fuckin' A
Feb 15 22:17:40 <deadweasel>	hells to the yes.
Feb 15 22:17:59 <deadweasel>	i know it's late, but it's never to late for a walk on the beach
Feb 15 22:18:14 <AndroUser512>	Been walkinall day
Feb 15 22:18:47 <AndroUser512>	So can someone tell me why people are bidding so high on asicminer shares?
Feb 15 22:18:49 <BitHub>	hey guys what are the say top 10 highest paying divs?
Feb 15 22:18:57 <deadweasel>	asicminer
Feb 15 22:19:01 <BitHub>	check
Feb 15 22:19:02 <deadweasel>	coinbase is back up!
Feb 15 22:19:06 <deadweasel>	gonna go check my transaction
Feb 15 22:19:11 <Namworld>	They have already over 2 Terahash going, over 10 Terahash being deployed
Feb 15 22:19:12 <deadweasel>	no good palce to check that BitHub , too many exchanges
Feb 15 22:19:22 <deadweasel>	namworld, any more actuions going on?
Feb 15 22:19:23 <BitHub>	hmmmm
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Feb 15 22:19:33 <Namworld>	and like 50 more Terahash  planned afterward
Feb 15 22:19:35 <BitHub>	jah mining is paying good, frequent divs
Feb 15 22:19:38 <AndroUser512>	Right but. 37+ per share?
Feb 15 22:19:54 <Namworld>	Each share is 1/400 000 of that hashing
Feb 15 22:20:15 <AndroUser512>	That only works if no other asics come out for like way long
Feb 15 22:20:41 <Namworld>	Assuming ASICMINER doesn't keep putting out more
Feb 15 22:20:56 <deadweasel>	everyone get their bitbet.us in against BFL?
Feb 15 22:21:01 <BitHub>	how many asicminer shares do you think you need?
Feb 15 22:21:04 <deadweasel>	i mean, FOR
Feb 15 22:21:05 <deadweasel>	:P
Feb 15 22:21:12 <BitHub>	i only got about 50 so far
Feb 15 22:21:20 <BitHub>	not sure if thats a decent amount or not to see a nice return
Feb 15 22:21:23 <Namworld>	I have 200 left
Feb 15 22:21:30 <deadweasel>	really?
Feb 15 22:21:32 <Namworld>	One guy in my auction didn't pay
Feb 15 22:21:33 <deadweasel>	you sellin?
Feb 15 22:21:41 <BitHub>	hold some for me naaaaam
Feb 15 22:21:47 <BitHub>	i need another 50 i think
Feb 15 22:22:18 <deadweasel>	Namworld: pm'd you, would love to buy on the now.
Feb 15 22:22:24 <AndroUser512>	I'm bowing out of bidding on em
Feb 15 22:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2226 @ 0.00066678 = 1.4843 BTC [+]
Feb 15 22:22:47 <AndroUser512>	Sdice or mpoe or else are safer in the short term
Feb 15 22:23:55 <BitHub>	who else is paying divs?
Feb 15 22:24:09 <BitHub>	sdice bbet do
Feb 15 22:24:31 <AndroUser512>	There are a number of them
Feb 15 22:24:33 <Namworld>	S.DICE is nice
Feb 15 22:24:45 <AndroUser512>	Some are miners
Feb 15 22:25:03 <BitHub>	i invested in some miners but i think oversall mining is real dangerous right now
Feb 15 22:25:35 <AndroUser512>	Yeah the risk is, whe you are ready to sell, no one will be buying
Feb 15 22:26:19 <BitHub>	as long as you're getting divs, it can make a nice long term play.
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Feb 15 22:26:41 <BitHub>	jah mining over at bitfunder, he's paying every day so far.
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Feb 15 22:28:55 <Namworld>	problem is with ASICs coming around, profit might drop to zero
Feb 15 22:29:04 <Namworld>	What happens then?
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Feb 15 22:29:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3022 @ 0.00067634 = 2.0439 BTC [+]
Feb 15 22:29:58 <AndroUser512>	Topic: Would it be a better play to buy SDICE on the ltcglobal passthru? This would help btc flow into ltc each dividend payment and potentially elevate ltc value. Also LTC looks to be a bit resilient to BTC volatility.
Feb 15 22:30:39 <BitHub>	i have some invested in miners and some invested in gambling sites and some in asicminer so i think i should be covered.
Feb 15 22:31:18 <deadweasel>	JAH says he will buy asics.  I doubt that will happen in time.
Feb 15 22:31:29 <kakobrekla>	and by resilient you mean staying worthless
Feb 15 22:31:40 <BitHub>	he's got a decent upgrade plan
Feb 15 22:31:40 <deadweasel>	have you seen his pics!  like a campfire waiting to happen.
Feb 15 22:31:43 <BitHub>	he's also got asicminer shares
Feb 15 22:31:55 <deadweasel>	well, he's def spending the money we are giving him.
Feb 15 22:31:57 <deadweasel>	that's for sure.
Feb 15 22:32:01 <deadweasel>	:)
Feb 15 22:32:32 <AndroUser512>	Kako: but you can always comvert your divs back to btc
Feb 15 22:32:52 <AndroUser512>	At the rates that wee just pumped
Feb 15 22:33:15 <AndroUser512>	Potentially...
Feb 15 22:33:44 <BitHub>	once avalons hit the market, hopefully they'll be new players to invest in
Feb 15 22:35:26 <deadweasel>	you think they exist?
Feb 15 22:35:46 <BitHub>	we'll see :)
Feb 15 22:35:58 <deadweasel>	we will.  think BFL makes march1?
Feb 15 22:36:16 <abracadabra>	nope
Feb 15 22:36:19 <BitHub>	best thing to do is get on the ASICMINER - as that will probably be the first before everyone
Feb 15 22:37:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC
Feb 15 22:37:40 <deadweasel>	no way to get on asicminer
Feb 15 22:37:46 <deadweasel>	unless you already have it
Feb 15 22:37:53 <Namworld>	BitHub
Feb 15 22:37:59 <Namworld>	ASICMINER is ALREADY hashing
Feb 15 22:38:29 <BitHub>	yeah, i was watching the tests
Feb 15 22:38:31 <BitHub>	;)
Feb 15 22:38:40 <Namworld>	At speeds never seen before for a single miner...
Feb 15 22:38:43 <Namworld>	http://www.btcguild.com/halloffame.php
Feb 15 22:38:50 <toffoo>	did nefario ever pay back GLBSE users the remaining 10% of BTC funds after the initial 90% was refunded on Oct. 15?
Feb 15 22:39:22 <Namworld>	I was paid 100% right off the bat =/
Feb 15 22:39:30 <Namworld>	I think...
Feb 15 22:39:47 <toffoo>	lucky you.  well how about everyone else, the unlucky ones?
Feb 15 22:40:12 <Namworld>	I had more than expected by a few BTC. But I was missing a few shares of certain assets. Seemed to match so I assume some stuff sold prior to GLBSE closing.
Feb 15 22:40:26 <Namworld>	I don't think the last 10% was ever paid.
Feb 15 22:40:32 <Namworld>	I think some were never paid at all.
Feb 15 22:40:35 <toffoo>	i think you're right
Feb 15 22:40:39 <toffoo>	today is 4 months
Feb 15 22:40:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3774 @ 0.00067268 = 2.5387 BTC [-]
Feb 15 22:41:34 <toffoo>	10% of GLBSE BTC holdings at the time of shutdown is probably a pretty fancy pile of coin
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Feb 15 22:50:24 <pigeons>	http://www.theonion.com/video/internet-scam-alert-most-kickstarter-projects-just,28655/
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Feb 15 22:51:31 <deadweasel>	anybody bet on price of BTC on bitbet.us?
Feb 15 22:53:48 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 15 22:53:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.11002, Best ask: 27.24994, Bid-ask spread: 0.13992, Last trade: 27.24994, 24 hour volume: 48718.42747525, 24 hour low: 26.10300, 24 hour high: 27.50617, 24 hour vwap: 26.99280
Feb 15 22:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00066069 = 1.2223 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 23:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6776 @ 0.00066167 = 4.4835 BTC [+]
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Feb 15 23:12:25 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Feb 15 23:12:25 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://btct.co || https://bitfunder.com || https://icbit.se || https://cryptostocks.com || https://therocktrading.com || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || biased msg: http://bit4x.com
Feb 15 23:12:25 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Wed Feb 13 18:53:47 2013
Feb 15 23:14:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00067014 = 2.7476 BTC [+]
Feb 15 23:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00067047 = 3.1177 BTC [+]
Feb 15 23:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00067634 = 0.7778 BTC [+]
Feb 15 23:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5014 @ 0.0006576 = 3.2972 BTC [-]
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Feb 15 23:30:43 <leotreasure>	i never got my 8 btc from glbse
Feb 15 23:31:10 <leotreasure>	partially my fault - i provided a satoshi dice address in the automated claim form by accident
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Feb 15 23:31:27 <leotreasure>	but it was a really low chance one so the payout should have bounced
Feb 15 23:31:41 <leotreasure>	emailed nefario about 6 times - don't think i'll be getting it back
Feb 15 23:32:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00067181 = 4.7699 BTC [+]
Feb 15 23:32:18 <BitHub>	bunch of scum
Feb 15 23:32:58 <BitHub>	keep trying, you never know.
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Feb 15 23:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5981 @ 0.00067181 = 4.0181 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 00:04:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00066737 = 9.143 BTC [-]
Feb 16 00:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2436 @ 0.00066737 = 1.6257 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 00:18:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5138 @ 0.00066737 = 3.4289 BTC [-]
Feb 16 00:18:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7712 @ 0.00065811 = 5.0753 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 00:22:53 <Bowjob>	I ended up returning the ipod touch gen 5
Feb 16 00:23:03 <Bowjob>	>_> I got a free rent off of it
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Feb 16 00:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149 @ 0.00066097 = 0.0985 BTC [+]
Feb 16 00:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4601 @ 0.00066131 = 3.0427 BTC [+]
Feb 16 00:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00066131 = 6.3816 BTC [+]
Feb 16 00:46:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00065937 = 2.0111 BTC [-]
Feb 16 00:46:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065812 = 2.8437 BTC [-]
Feb 16 00:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 827 @ 0.00065811 = 0.5443 BTC [-]
Feb 16 00:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3461 @ 0.00065811 = 2.2777 BTC [-]
Feb 16 00:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1660 @ 0.0006576 = 1.0916 BTC [-]
Feb 16 00:54:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.0006576 = 2.8934 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 01:03:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000661 = 2.8562 BTC [+]
Feb 16 01:03:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10449 @ 0.00066131 = 6.91 BTC [+]
Feb 16 01:03:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1285 @ 0.00066811 = 0.8585 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 01:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00066197 = 4.3028 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 01:28:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1358 @ 0.00066197 = 0.899 BTC [-]
Feb 16 01:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.0006606 = 1.1891 BTC [-]
Feb 16 01:28:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1692 @ 0.0006576 = 1.1127 BTC [-]
Feb 16 01:34:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9519 @ 0.00066811 = 6.3597 BTC [+]
Feb 16 01:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5331 @ 0.00066948 = 3.569 BTC [+]
Feb 16 01:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.0006576 = 9.1406 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 01:41:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5812 @ 0.00066948 = 3.891 BTC [+]
Feb 16 01:41:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00067145 = 4.0287 BTC [+]
Feb 16 01:41:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1188 @ 0.00067462 = 0.8014 BTC [+]
Feb 16 01:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00067462 = 4.7898 BTC [+]
Feb 16 01:52:41 <Bowjob>	looks like havelock kinda tanked
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Feb 16 02:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00066826 = 5.9475 BTC [-]
Feb 16 02:15:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 325 @ 0.00639521 = 2.0784 BTC [+]
Feb 16 02:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1812 @ 0.00067462 = 1.2224 BTC [+]
Feb 16 02:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7988 @ 0.00067709 = 5.4086 BTC [+]
Feb 16 02:32:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12534 @ 0.00066826 = 8.376 BTC [-]
Feb 16 02:36:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2012 @ 0.00067709 = 1.3623 BTC [+]
Feb 16 02:36:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7438 @ 0.00067739 = 5.0384 BTC [+]
Feb 16 02:38:08 <Namworld>	There's one of those persons...
Feb 16 02:38:43 <Namworld>	on BitVPS list...
Feb 16 02:38:56 <Namworld>	I can't find his gpg key
Feb 16 02:40:17 <Namworld>	on any public server... or OTC
Feb 16 02:40:37 <Namworld>	Meh =/
Feb 16 02:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00639521 = 1.5988 BTC [+]
Feb 16 02:45:54 <Ukto>	tanked?
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Feb 16 02:59:06 <Namworld>	What tanked?
Feb 16 03:00:48 <BitHub>	Bowjob is thinking that Havelock have tanked
Feb 16 03:01:23 <Bowjob>	well, its just correcting
Feb 16 03:01:31 <Bowjob>	from 75xx to 68
Feb 16 03:01:37 <Bowjob>	well see what happens
Feb 16 03:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5266 @ 0.00066826 = 3.5191 BTC [-]
Feb 16 03:04:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5634 @ 0.00066094 = 3.7237 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 03:15:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4262 @ 0.00067739 = 2.887 BTC [+]
Feb 16 03:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6428 @ 0.00067787 = 4.3573 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 03:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00647999 = 3.888 BTC [+]
Feb 16 03:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.0065 = 2.275 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 03:41:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6639 @ 0.00066754 = 4.4318 BTC [-]
Feb 16 03:41:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6460 @ 0.00066094 = 4.2697 BTC [-]
Feb 16 03:41:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1551 @ 0.00066053 = 1.0245 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 03:47:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2349 @ 0.00066053 = 1.5516 BTC [-]
Feb 16 03:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2951 @ 0.00065973 = 1.9469 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 03:53:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00626 = 0.0376 BTC [-]
Feb 16 04:09:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00067708 = 3.7239 BTC [+]
Feb 16 04:09:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 556 @ 0.00067787 = 0.3769 BTC [+]
Feb 16 04:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	o, back to 67.7 huh
Feb 16 04:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 16 04:14:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.03806, Best ask: 27.09999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06193, Last trade: 27.03807, 24 hour volume: 47020.05585313, 24 hour low: 26.10300, 24 hour high: 27.50617, 24 hour vwap: 26.98591
Feb 16 04:18:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00626 = 0.0125 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 04:37:20 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: polimedia.us is some sort of spamming service?
Feb 16 04:37:28 <mircea_popescu>	what ?
Feb 16 04:37:44 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, are you some sort of idiot ?
Feb 16 04:38:40 <Anduck>	... excuse me. what?
Feb 16 04:39:16 <Anduck>	what does polimedia.us in fact do then?
Feb 16 04:39:32 <Anduck>	i just googled it and seems like ppl keep on complaining getting weird emails from polimedia.us
Feb 16 04:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	mno, we're not quite there yet.
Feb 16 04:39:46 <mircea_popescu>	we're at establishing who the fuck you are and what the fuck gives you the standing to ask stupid questions.
Feb 16 04:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	polimedia stands on its own, it's a website on the internet.
Feb 16 04:40:11 <Anduck>	well i'll google things that i find interesting, then
Feb 16 04:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that you're tolerated on an irc channel i happen to frequent does not by itself give you the position to ask loaded questions.
Feb 16 04:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	and since we're on it, look up "loaded question", it'll benefit your education.
Feb 16 04:41:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00066105 = 3.9663 BTC [-]
Feb 16 04:41:16 <Anduck>	well i googled polimedia.us and people seems to be complaining about SPAM EMAILS from your domain
Feb 16 04:41:26 <Anduck>	and u just say "dont ask me questions related to that"
Feb 16 04:41:29 <Anduck>	ok.
Feb 16 04:42:16 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Feb 16 04:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	i do not say "don't ask me questions related to that"
Feb 16 04:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	i said, look up "loaded question", it will benefit your education.
Feb 16 04:42:33 <mircea_popescu>	do that.
Feb 16 04:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2140 @ 0.00065973 = 1.4118 BTC [-]
Feb 16 04:43:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12660 @ 0.00065972 = 8.3521 BTC [-]
Feb 16 04:43:54 <Anduck>	nah i'll just search other things ;_;
Feb 16 04:44:22 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: http://billmullins.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/scamming-by-spamming-%E2%80%93-they-just-won%E2%80%99t-quit/
Feb 16 04:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1540 @ 0.00065972 = 1.016 BTC [-]
Feb 16 04:44:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 486 @ 0.00065922 = 0.3204 BTC [-]
Feb 16 04:45:35 <Anduck>	its rather funny theyve still placed those "you are 100000000th visitor of this site U WONS A LOT THINGS CLICK HERES" ads on that blog
Feb 16 04:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00066105 = 2.7764 BTC [+]
Feb 16 05:00:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 347 @ 0.00639521 = 2.2191 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 05:04:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 38 @ 0.0097 = 0.3686 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00066105 = 2.0493 BTC [+]
Feb 16 05:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00066195 = 2.2506 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 05:20:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.00601 = 0.0541 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:20:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 85 @ 0.006 = 0.51 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:20:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.006 = 0.24 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:21:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00596 = 0.0119 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:22:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00593 = 0.0593 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:22:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 17 @ 0.00592 = 0.1006 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:23:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 47 @ 0.00591 = 0.2778 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:25:18 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: are you buying back DMC shares?
Feb 16 05:25:56 <Namworld>	There's half the dividends going to buying back shares at market rate, to be destroyed.
Feb 16 05:26:22 <Namworld>	So I guess the shares count should be diminishing.
Feb 16 05:26:33 <Namworld>	I think that was the motion long ago or something like that.
Feb 16 05:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3195 @ 0.00065922 = 2.1062 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:28:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 413 @ 0.00065761 = 0.2716 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 05:28:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22892 @ 0.0006576 = 15.0538 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:30:35 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: yes, 11 DMC for 1 ASICMINER.
Feb 16 05:33:21 <Namworld>	oh that
Feb 16 05:33:33 <Diablo-D3>	So I wonder when the trolls will shut up
Feb 16 05:33:43 <Diablo-D3>	another one just popped up claiming I stole from shareholders
Feb 16 05:34:42 <Diablo-D3>	and he claims he read the whole thread too
Feb 16 05:35:01 <Diablo-D3>	if he read the whole thread, he would have already known nefario took GLBSE down before he got caught
Feb 16 05:36:50 <EskimoBob>	1 ASICMINER? This is the one not listed?
Feb 16 05:38:42 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: actually, he is right to accuse you. You did fuck up big time and then blamed GLBSE
Feb 16 05:38:52 <Diablo-D3>	Except I never did.
Feb 16 05:39:48 <Diablo-D3>	The original group of shareholders not only agreed with selling shares at below IPO price in exchange for mining bonds, but came up with the idea.
Feb 16 05:40:06 <EskimoBob>	Did you publish the transaction logs? No, you never did. That was perfect opportunity to clear this up but you refused
Feb 16 05:40:17 <EskimoBob>	so why are you surprised?
Feb 16 05:40:37 <Diablo-D3>	er, why would I publish them?
Feb 16 05:40:50 <Diablo-D3>	nefario is the only one that had access to them, and he refused
Feb 16 05:43:16 <Diablo-D3>	s/why/how/
Feb 16 05:43:53 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: infact, I'd like to know the exact total invested into DMC. I'll never know now.
Feb 16 05:44:22 <Diablo-D3>	its somewhere around 1500-2000.
Feb 16 05:44:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.0006576 = 4.9978 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:44:45 <EskimoBob>	and now it's worth what? 15 BTC? 150?
Feb 16 05:45:13 <Diablo-D3>	about 1000.
Feb 16 05:45:30 <EskimoBob>	really?
Feb 16 05:45:34 <Diablo-D3>	yes.
Feb 16 05:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck dude, some idiot making some nonsense post in 2008 is hardly anything i need explain.
Feb 16 05:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	ask him.
Feb 16 05:46:06 <EskimoBob>	fuck off mircea, we are talking here
Feb 16 05:46:23 <Anduck>	mp: fine
Feb 16 05:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	no but seriously
Feb 16 05:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's the internet, anyone can write what they please.
Feb 16 05:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	do i ask you to explain why bitcoin is a scam ?
Feb 16 05:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	because i read it on somesitenobodyknows ?
Feb 16 05:46:52 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: if 1500 went in and now it's worth 1000 how come it's not reflected in share price?
Feb 16 05:47:27 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: because people are dumb.
Feb 16 05:47:38 <Diablo-D3>	and its probably closer to 750.
Feb 16 05:47:39 <EskimoBob>	Oh, really?
Feb 16 05:47:53 <Diablo-D3>	remember, I've recovered half the shares, so I only need to clear half of whatever went in.
Feb 16 05:47:55 <EskimoBob>	so you took 2000 and now it's worth 750
Feb 16 05:48:07 <EskimoBob>	and you tell me that other people are dumb?
Feb 16 05:48:10 <EskimoBob>	:)
Feb 16 05:48:16 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: see what I just said.
Feb 16 05:48:48 <Namworld>	He recovered half the shares already... so 1000 BTC of shares left maybe.
Feb 16 05:48:49 <EskimoBob>	no wonder people are accusing you of fraud :)
Feb 16 05:48:53 <Diablo-D3>	I sold a little over 20k shares, most for under 0.10 each (in trade for ASICMINER shares)
Feb 16 05:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 how many did you sell at 1 each ?
Feb 16 05:49:28 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: like 50.
Feb 16 05:49:29 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: 0.10 was AFTER you sold this shit for way higher
Feb 16 05:49:33 <EskimoBob>	lets not forget that
Feb 16 05:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	okay.
Feb 16 05:49:56 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, no one was willing to invest at that price
Feb 16 05:50:19 <Namworld>	You could have asked nefario to do a stock split.
Feb 16 05:50:25 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: he refused
Feb 16 05:50:30 <Namworld>	oh
Feb 16 05:50:33 <Diablo-D3>	he said he was going to add the feature later
Feb 16 05:50:35 <Diablo-D3>	and never did
Feb 16 05:51:11 <Diablo-D3>	he also said he was going to add logging dumps
Feb 16 05:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	strangely enough, people post on forum about missing glbse.
Feb 16 05:51:13 <Diablo-D3>	but never did
Feb 16 05:52:05 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: you even sold me some of that crap before you pulled your 0.10 trick
Feb 16 05:52:58 <mircea_popescu>	o, also, ##buttcoin
Feb 16 05:53:00 <EskimoBob>	popescu and guess what, nobody is missing your one stock winderbazaar
Feb 16 05:53:02 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Feb 16 05:53:28 <Namworld>	No one is missing it because it's still right there...
Feb 16 05:53:54 <Diablo-D3>	of the last ~18k shares, I sold them for about 0.03 each
Feb 16 05:54:16 <Diablo-D3>	which is about 540 BTC
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Feb 16 05:55:06 <Diablo-D3>	the first 2000 shares probably average around 0.66 or so
Feb 16 05:55:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 498 @ 0.0006576 = 0.3275 BTC [-]
Feb 16 05:55:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15788 @ 0.00065759 = 10.382 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 05:55:34 <Diablo-D3>	so the amount that went in is probably closer to 1500 than 2000
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Feb 16 06:00:51 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: so if you too want to claim I stole or did fraud, um, you're going to have to actually look up the definitions of those.
Feb 16 06:01:57 <Diablo-D3>	since it was never a guaranteed investment and it was a startup, they're lucky they're getting ANYTHING back
Feb 16 06:02:28 <Diablo-D3>	btw, looking back in the records, the its closer to first 3000 than first 2000
Feb 16 06:02:41 <Namworld>	How do I check the full fingerprint when verifying a signature?
Feb 16 06:03:01 <Diablo-D3>	er, first 2500 even
Feb 16 06:03:17 <Diablo-D3>	so yeah, maybe it is closer to 2000.
Feb 16 06:03:23 <Diablo-D3>	er 2000 BTC
Feb 16 06:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	--fingerprint Namworld
Feb 16 06:04:16 <mircea_popescu>	like gpg --list-keys --fingerprint
Feb 16 06:04:48 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: I think Im going to do a postmortem later today
Feb 16 06:05:03 <Diablo-D3>	to see if I can get as close as possible to what was originally put in
Feb 16 06:05:31 <Namworld>	Hmm... no public key
Feb 16 06:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136100590180.jpg ginger polis.
Feb 16 06:08:47 <Namworld>	Ah, well thanks
Feb 16 06:09:02 <Namworld>	I got all my BitVPS shareholders confirmed now.
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Feb 16 06:13:36 <Chaang-Noi>	nice wall at 27
Feb 16 06:14:37 <Namworld>	Small wall...
Feb 16 06:15:22 <Chaang-Noi>	biggest wall i have ever seen at 27
Feb 16 06:15:22 <Namworld>	The ask side is far more bearish than before. Growth has stopped it seems.
Feb 16 06:16:04 <Chaang-Noi>	biggest ask wall ever at 27 or more btc...
Feb 16 06:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yJe2dRMJUg anyone know who this dood is ?
Feb 16 06:16:56 <Namworld>	yeah, I guess in 2011 there was less volume both side.
Feb 16 06:17:06 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 16 06:17:12 <Chaang-Noi>	mp i dont have flash, so i dont know
Feb 16 06:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi i have access to SA's free transcription service, courtesy of lollie.
Feb 16 06:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	it is pretty funny shit
Feb 16 06:17:55 <Chaang-Noi>	cool
Feb 16 06:18:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i see you like asicminer
Feb 16 06:20:23 <Namworld>	Who likes ASICMINER?
Feb 16 06:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065969 = 2.8505 BTC [+]
Feb 16 06:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00066002 = 6.1052 BTC [+]
Feb 16 06:21:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2014 @ 0.00066195 = 1.3332 BTC [+]
Feb 16 06:21:19 <Chaang-Noi>	mp's pr lady, and a bunch of others...
Feb 16 06:22:16 <Namworld>	I thought MP disliked any ASIC/Mining related securities.
Feb 16 06:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/18313.html#18385 lol that's kinda funny
Feb 16 06:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	hm. pseudo-perpetual miner bonds are bad investments.
Feb 16 06:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think much of the off-the-cuff asic manufacturers,
Feb 16 06:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	but asic technology per se is both unavoidable and necessary
Feb 16 06:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	just, it has to be done by serious people.
Feb 16 06:25:56 <Namworld>	It seems ASICMINER may have just pulled that off.
Feb 16 06:26:13 <Namworld>	It makes me sad I didn't buy more of those.
Feb 16 06:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Feb 16 06:27:05 <mircea_popescu>	the one point of concern is of course that technically anyone can create a pool user with an arbitrary hash power.
Feb 16 06:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	you could do it out of gpus, you could do it out of a botnet, you could do it out of bought hashing
Feb 16 06:27:32 <Namworld>	I'm still selling my shares while they're hot tho.
Feb 16 06:27:59 <Chaang-Noi>	4100 shares here
Feb 16 06:28:23 <Chaang-Noi>	im on the board, lol
Feb 16 06:28:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
Feb 16 06:29:05 *	Namworld hits Chaang-Noi on the head with a hammer and scampers off with his share certificates.
Feb 16 06:29:19 <Namworld>	Mwuahahaha
Feb 16 06:29:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00065918 = 1.582 BTC [-]
Feb 16 06:31:24 <Namworld>	But seriously, don't they keep only people with 5k+ shares tho?
Feb 16 06:32:58 <Chaang-Noi>	i asked him about that and yeah, once they do the count agai im out unless i get 900 more shares
Feb 16 06:33:10 <usagi>	Ahh so goat is back in business, welcome back
Feb 16 06:33:15 <Chaang-Noi>	but im on the board until they do the count, however being on the baord means nothing lol
Feb 16 06:33:24 <Chaang-Noi>	in the business?
Feb 16 06:34:05 <usagi>	yeah like that movie with eddie murphy and the stock guys and in the end eddie murphy makes a comeback on orange juice futures
Feb 16 06:34:27 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol, i have not made a stock trade since glbse fail.
Feb 16 06:34:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i just hold what i hold
Feb 16 06:34:48 <Namworld>	I keep trading.
Feb 16 06:35:07 <Chaang-Noi>	what are you getting for your asicminer shares?
Feb 16 06:35:15 <Chaang-Noi>	im thinking about selling some now...
Feb 16 06:35:21 <Namworld>	0.41-0.43 a piece now
Feb 16 06:35:47 <Namworld>	Someone is selling 5k and has it filled with bids for 0.30 already.
Feb 16 06:36:08 <usagi>	Basec on ASIC mining income they're supposed to be worth 1 to 1.5btc
Feb 16 06:36:20 <Chaang-Noi>	damn
Feb 16 06:36:32 <usagi>	So just sitting on them should yield a BTC.
Feb 16 06:36:37 <Namworld>	Assuming no other ASICs come on the market and they mine for months with the majority
Feb 16 06:36:40 <usagi>	I mean just divs
Feb 16 06:36:55 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm, take .4 now or wait and hope for 1 btc...
Feb 16 06:37:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i might do 1/2 and 1/2
Feb 16 06:37:09 <Chaang-Noi>	just sell 2000
Feb 16 06:37:11 <usagi>	the .4 now is worth a lot, depends on how btc moves
Feb 16 06:37:15 <Namworld>	I'm sure they'll have some competition soon.
Feb 16 06:38:02 <Chaang-Noi>	well anyone wants 2000 asicminer shares let me know
Feb 16 06:38:13 <usagi>	same price as last time?
Feb 16 06:38:16 <usagi>	:)
Feb 16 06:38:17 <Chaang-Noi>	lol :)
Feb 16 06:38:29 <Chaang-Noi>	id rather hold onto them lol
Feb 16 06:38:31 <Namworld>	I'll take them for 0.01 each, good discount... for me
Feb 16 06:39:16 <Namworld>	To me .20 would be worth to buy, .40+ is worth to sell.
Feb 16 06:39:24 <Chaang-Noi>	understand
Feb 16 06:39:31 <Chaang-Noi>	im going to look for the .3 ro .4 range
Feb 16 06:39:35 <Chaang-Noi>	to
Feb 16 06:39:51 <Namworld>	Yeah, I'd assume so.
Feb 16 06:41:51 <Namworld>	If you sell half for .4, you have a guaranteed 100% profit =)
Feb 16 06:42:14 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, but i doubt i will get that much
Feb 16 06:42:26 <Namworld>	... you'd be surprised.
Feb 16 06:42:30 <Chaang-Noi>	id be happy with .35, still a good chunk of money
Feb 16 06:42:43 <Namworld>	These sell like cupcakes...
Feb 16 06:42:51 <Chaang-Noi>	id rather move it in one block, not with 20 different people
Feb 16 06:43:15 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought about selling them before but thought they were going to be listed on an exchange soon
Feb 16 06:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	they were going to be listed on an exchange for 3 months or so
Feb 16 06:43:51 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142038.msg1532635#msg1532635
Feb 16 06:43:55 <Namworld>	Look at this thread
Feb 16 06:44:06 <Namworld>	113     asnonmous         4400        0.39
Feb 16 06:44:14 <Namworld>	currently among the lead for bids...
Feb 16 06:44:23 <Namworld>	that's pretty much 4400 shares for .4
Feb 16 06:44:34 <Namworld>	Guy is selling 5k shares =/
Feb 16 06:44:50 <Chaang-Noi>	who is asnonmous?
Feb 16 06:44:55 <Namworld>	No idea
Feb 16 06:45:12 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm yeah
Feb 16 06:45:19 <mircea_popescu>	all this forum carusel of assignments is bound to end in tears.
Feb 16 06:45:21 <Namworld>	I had no idea who most bidders were, but most of mine paid.
Feb 16 06:45:22 <Chaang-Noi>	not bad...
Feb 16 06:45:41 <Chaang-Noi>	still time on the auction too
Feb 16 06:45:56 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 16 06:46:13 <Namworld>	Were it not for time and others showing up, my auction would have kept going...
Feb 16 06:46:21 <Namworld>	I had to refuse a bid arriving too late
Feb 16 06:48:50 <Namworld>	I usually sell stuff when there's abnormally high demand and buying when there's abnormally no offer on something.
Feb 16 06:48:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8186 @ 0.00066195 = 5.4187 BTC [+]
Feb 16 06:48:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00066665 = 4.9999 BTC [+]
Feb 16 06:48:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00066835 = 0.6349 BTC [+]
Feb 16 06:48:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1964 @ 0.00067009 = 1.3161 BTC [+]
Feb 16 06:49:38 <Namworld>	Sometimes it keeps going up or down in value, but cashing in a profit safely and bid low again other places seems better than risking it all for a price going further up.
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Feb 16 06:49:42 <Chaang-Noi>	since im on the board i think i will offer to sell to other board members first, ill do this when i wake up.
Feb 16 06:49:57 <Namworld>	Aye, I'll be going to sleep too.
Feb 16 06:50:21 <Chaang-Noi>	peace
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Feb 16 06:55:00 <usagi>	So is brendio making a run for the border or what.. I have 100 BTC in bitvps shares.. or do I?
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Feb 16 06:55:49 <Namworld>	I don't know. I haven't kept track of anything B.BBVPS related
Feb 16 06:55:58 <Namworld>	What's happening with that?
Feb 16 06:56:07 <usagi>	no response from brendio...
Feb 16 06:56:12 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder about brendio too, did rg run as well?
Feb 16 06:56:17 <Chaang-Noi>	iv not seen either in a long time
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Feb 16 06:56:21 <Namworld>	RG is gone
Feb 16 06:56:22 <usagi>	If you know who he is please ask burnside to freeze his shares
Feb 16 06:56:27 <usagi>	I did that with patrick harnett's shares of cpa/etc
Feb 16 06:56:54 <Chaang-Noi>	brendio is in austriala,
Feb 16 06:57:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i might have some info on him somewhere :/
Feb 16 06:57:19 <Chaang-Noi>	im shocked he would just do a runner however
Feb 16 06:57:30 <Chaang-Noi>	he is someone i trusted
Feb 16 06:57:59 <usagi>	!seen brendio
Feb 16 06:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	i thought he was german
Feb 16 06:58:07 <usagi>	;seen brendio
Feb 16 06:58:13 <Namworld>	;;seen brendio
Feb 16 06:58:13 <gribble>	brendio was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 24 weeks, 0 days, 20 hours, 52 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <brendio> *nef
Feb 16 06:58:21 <usagi>	yeah so 6 months ago
Feb 16 06:58:24 <Namworld>	^^^
Feb 16 06:58:33 <Namworld>	He hasn't shown up anywhere apparently
Feb 16 06:58:52 <usagi>	I bet he will be logging into btc-tc soon
Feb 16 06:59:00 <Chaang-Noi>	im 90% sure he is in austrilia, why did you think german?
Feb 16 06:59:02 <usagi>	please don't allow him to tun with the shares
Feb 16 06:59:07 <usagi>	run*
Feb 16 06:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	ugh. i don't even remember. it's so long
Feb 16 06:59:39 <mircea_popescu>	he was i think the first person to offer mpex brokering, but it's a haze
Feb 16 06:59:45 <Namworld>	Where would he run?
Feb 16 06:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	moreover why would he run ? i don't know he had any outstanding obligations
Feb 16 07:00:15 <Chaang-Noi>	he seems to owe people money
Feb 16 07:00:15 <usagi>	If he sells them on btc-tc there will be no chance to recover my claim
Feb 16 07:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	well i mean, management for customers and such yes. but not loans or w/e
Feb 16 07:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
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Feb 16 07:00:31 <Chaang-Noi>	he also did the ppt pass though stuff
Feb 16 07:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	he did ?
Feb 16 07:00:45 <usagi>	Of course he would probably have sold them on mpex first meh
Feb 16 07:00:56 <Namworld>	yeah, that's a bit odd.
Feb 16 07:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	i don't recall him being involved
Feb 16 07:01:35 <Namworld>	He was.
Feb 16 07:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=brendio&sign=ANY&type=RECV << there's not a pirate rating
Feb 16 07:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	he was ?
Feb 16 07:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	12113	mrkent	20	brendio	2012-06-26 16:34:14	1	got paid from his pirate bonds :)
Feb 16 07:01:58 <mircea_popescu>	i guess he must have been, right you are
Feb 16 07:02:00 <Namworld>	Anyone Chaang, so yeah, RG indeed left BTC-land. He's around OTC occasionally however.
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Feb 16 07:02:29 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Feb 16 07:02:32 <Namworld>	Anyhow*
Feb 16 07:02:45 <Diablo-D3>	[06:08:08] <mircea_popescu> http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136100590180.jpg ginger polis.
Feb 16 07:02:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i get a fail loading btc on linux  "error loading blkindex.DAT"
Feb 16 07:02:56 <Diablo-D3>	amy pond. the doctor is sitting on the curb.
Feb 16 07:03:40 <Diablo-D3>	[06:35:47] <Namworld> Someone is selling 5k and has it filled with bids for 0.30 already.
Feb 16 07:03:43 <Diablo-D3>	actually its gone up
Feb 16 07:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00066396 = 0.8631 BTC [-]
Feb 16 07:03:54 <mircea_popescu>	o i c. thought it's an actual polis girl lol.
Feb 16 07:04:05 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone know how to deal with that error?
Feb 16 07:04:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: its spelled police, and no
Feb 16 07:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Amy_Pond.jpg why the fuck does she always look like someone stuck an 11 inch icedong up her butt ?
Feb 16 07:04:38 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: she doesnt. go watch the series.
Feb 16 07:04:49 <mircea_popescu>	i ain't watchin' no poliseries :D
Feb 16 07:04:52 <Diablo-D3>	and shes not even the hottest woman on the show
Feb 16 07:05:02 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: USE ENGLISH GODDAMNIT
Feb 16 07:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	she's not hot at all. lanky teeny type.
Feb 16 07:05:08 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: its doctor who you retard
Feb 16 07:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	ok diabloman i use englice
Feb 16 07:05:30 <Diablo-D3>	can someone just ban mircea_popescu until he clues up?
Feb 16 07:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	what, i have to watch doctor who now ?
Feb 16 07:07:38 <Namworld>	I'm out, goodbye
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Feb 16 07:10:25 <PsychoticBoy>	wow its getting stranger and stranger
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Feb 16 07:12:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1921 @ 0.00065918 = 1.2663 BTC [-]
Feb 16 07:12:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00065903 = 8.864 BTC [-]
Feb 16 07:13:18 <Chaang-Noi>	what is?
Feb 16 07:13:36 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu's bullshit
Feb 16 07:13:45 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Feb 16 07:14:00 <Chaang-Noi>	he seems like an unhappy guy for being so btc rich :)
Feb 16 07:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	dude what's with you and that chick.
Feb 16 07:14:15 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I was about to ask you the same exact question
Feb 16 07:14:20 <Diablo-D3>	we both know mpoe-pr doenst exist
Feb 16 07:14:20 <mircea_popescu>	you'd think i attacked mohammed's sister/gf in a taliban encampment.
Feb 16 07:14:31 <mircea_popescu>	o we do ?!
Feb 16 07:14:43 <Diablo-D3>	and you dont actually "punish" women like you described on your blog with the fake photos
Feb 16 07:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	orly ?!
Feb 16 07:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	how are they fake photos ?
Feb 16 07:15:06 <Diablo-D3>	you're like 14, have no bitcoins, and are trying to leech off people like the bitcoinica dude did
Feb 16 07:15:20 <Diablo-D3>	how are they fake? because Im pretty sure Ive seen that set before on 4chan.
Feb 16 07:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	lmao gtfo.
Feb 16 07:15:46 <mircea_popescu>	that's my motherfucking suit, you've seen me in it in like the blog header and whatnot
Feb 16 07:15:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00065903 = 2.5043 BTC [-]
Feb 16 07:15:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00065771 = 2.1376 BTC [-]
Feb 16 07:15:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00065768 = 2.2361 BTC [-]
Feb 16 07:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00065759 = 4.2415 BTC [-]
Feb 16 07:16:20 <Diablo-D3>	Ive never seen you irl, and its not like that suit wasnt mass produced
Feb 16 07:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	actually it wasn't, but that aside
Feb 16 07:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	"i think i saw that on 4chan" is about as good as "i can tell because some pixels"
Feb 16 07:17:12 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: okay, prove it, send me 400k btc.
Feb 16 07:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	...
Feb 16 07:17:38 <Diablo-D3>	if you're so fucking rich, prove it
Feb 16 07:17:47 <Diablo-D3>	people who are that rich dont hang out on IRC
Feb 16 07:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	right, because that's how being rich works. people get online with you and make demands.
Feb 16 07:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	so you're lucky that i do.
Feb 16 07:18:12 <Diablo-D3>	they sure as hell they dont admit they have money
Feb 16 07:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	well not everyone's a pussy.
Feb 16 07:18:59 <usagi>	diablo check this out: http://somafm.com/play/groovesalad
Feb 16 07:19:07 <usagi>	theyre playing some hot cuts right now
Feb 16 07:19:24 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, there : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/portret-al-artistului-la-tinerete/
Feb 16 07:19:36 <mircea_popescu>	my costarian money wad, my dollars wad, my pen, my keys...
Feb 16 07:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	did you see that on 4chan too ?
Feb 16 07:19:45 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: thats on my playlist anyhow
Feb 16 07:19:58 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: I have soma.fm installed on my roku downstairs too
Feb 16 07:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006637 = 2.8678 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 07:20:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7630 @ 0.00066396 = 5.066 BTC [+]
Feb 16 07:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00067008 = 1.4742 BTC [+]
Feb 16 07:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 836 @ 0.00067009 = 0.5602 BTC [+]
Feb 16 07:20:24 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yes? I dont know what that is.
Feb 16 07:20:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9313 @ 0.00067055 = 6.2448 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 07:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Feb 16 07:21:48 <Diablo-D3>	it looks like you folded monopoly money up
Feb 16 07:22:06 <Diablo-D3>	and whats with the paintball gun?
Feb 16 07:22:12 <usagi>	Diablo: whats that big blue thing?
Feb 16 07:22:16 <usagi>	thats what I want to know
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Feb 16 07:22:35 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: looks like a gay beer brand that used ot be on the market years ago
Feb 16 07:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	well, did you see it on 4chan ?
Feb 16 07:22:52 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yes, Ive seen both monopoly money and painball guns on 4chan
Feb 16 07:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	mebbe you spend too much time on 4chan.
Feb 16 07:23:19 <Diablo-D3>	not really
Feb 16 07:23:34 <Diablo-D3>	people point lulz threads out to me
Feb 16 07:23:52 <Diablo-D3>	like, if you were claiming that you had 400k on 4chan, people would have pointed that thread out to me
Feb 16 07:24:10 <Diablo-D3>	few things are lulzier than that
Feb 16 07:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	what is 4chan anyway ?
Feb 16 07:24:28 <Diablo-D3>	basically a site for trolls, I think you'd fit in well there
Feb 16 07:24:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5105 @ 0.00067055 = 3.4232 BTC [+]
Feb 16 07:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	ima make 400kchan
Feb 16 07:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, the girls in the pic with a switch mark on their butt weren't being punished at the time
Feb 16 07:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	we were just having st nicholas fun.
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Feb 16 07:33:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00067345 = 7.8794 BTC [+]
Feb 16 07:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4095 @ 0.00067345 = 2.7578 BTC [+]
Feb 16 07:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9055 @ 0.00066794 = 6.0482 BTC [-]
Feb 16 07:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00067493 = 3.6109 BTC [+]
Feb 16 07:54:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 500 @ 0.00449 = 2.245 BTC [-]
Feb 16 07:54:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00067493 = 8.0317 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 08:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00067347 = 5.7245 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 08:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00067493 = 3.5771 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 08:23:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1861 @ 0.00067578 = 1.2576 BTC [+]
Feb 16 08:23:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067577 = 3.3789 BTC [-]
Feb 16 08:25:30 <Chaang-Noi>	btc marketcap 300 million usd :)
Feb 16 08:25:57 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 16 08:25:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.10000, Best ask: 27.13699, Bid-ask spread: 0.03699, Last trade: 27.10000, 24 hour volume: 37314.47943457, 24 hour low: 26.32100, 24 hour high: 27.50617, 24 hour vwap: 27.12386
Feb 16 08:26:00 <Diablo-D3>	wtf.
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Feb 16 08:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	not quite.
Feb 16 08:27:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1789 @ 0.00067496 = 1.2075 BTC [-]
Feb 16 08:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3645 @ 0.00067347 = 2.4548 BTC [-]
Feb 16 08:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7566 @ 0.00066666 = 5.0439 BTC [-]
Feb 16 08:28:49 <pigeons>	CoinBr.MPBPT-O at 0.10099999 makes money if MPBOR ends up over what? to estimate what MPBOR comes in at we look at option trade history and extrapolate?
Feb 16 08:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1134 @ 0.00066666 = 0.756 BTC [-]
Feb 16 08:34:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9298 @ 0.00066455 = 6.179 BTC [-]
Feb 16 08:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2868 @ 0.00066361 = 1.9032 BTC [-]
Feb 16 08:42:37 <usagi>	CoinBr.MPBPT-O at 0.10999... makes 0.999...%
Feb 16 08:42:44 <usagi>	Or do you mean as an investor
Feb 16 08:43:17 <usagi>	I guess if you get 5% on the bonds you would get 4.0000001% on the passthru?
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Feb 16 08:46:02 <pigeons>	yes i mean if an investor was to buy the passthrough at 0.10099999
Feb 16 08:46:47 <usagi>	The funds are applied to the bond at 0.1/bond
Feb 16 08:47:03 <usagi>	so if the underlying bond then returns 5% you get back 0.105
Feb 16 08:47:30 <pigeons>	thanks
Feb 16 08:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36568 @ 0.00067578 = 24.7119 BTC [+]
Feb 16 08:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1274 @ 0.00067704 = 0.8625 BTC [+]
Feb 16 09:07:32 <Anduck>	!ticket mpex s.mpoe
Feb 16 09:07:41 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.mpoe
Feb 16 09:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00065024 / 0.0006625 / 0.00067787 (1242386 shares, 823.09 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00064333 / 0.00068254 (14678961 shares, 9,443.50 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066234 / 0.0007 (74525201 shares, 49,361.21 BTC)
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Feb 16 09:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00067704 = 5.6533 BTC [+]
Feb 16 09:18:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00067704 = 0.0677 BTC [+]
Feb 16 09:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8264 @ 0.00067799 = 5.6029 BTC [+]
Feb 16 09:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3632 @ 0.00067889 = 2.4657 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 09:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11649 @ 0.00066826 = 7.7846 BTC [-]
Feb 16 09:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1561 @ 0.00066826 = 1.0432 BTC [-]
Feb 16 09:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6783 @ 0.00066361 = 4.5013 BTC [-]
Feb 16 09:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6249 @ 0.00066361 = 4.1469 BTC [-]
Feb 16 09:30:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4001 @ 0.0006576 = 2.6311 BTC [-]
Feb 16 09:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065765 = 2.8417 BTC [+]
Feb 16 09:31:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1127 @ 0.0006576 = 0.7411 BTC [-]
Feb 16 09:31:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 752 @ 0.00065759 = 0.4945 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 09:42:28 <EskimoBob>	3909 BTC bid @ 27 :)
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Feb 16 09:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00067227 = 3.7983 BTC [+]
Feb 16 09:53:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00066832 = 1.771 BTC [-]
Feb 16 09:55:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00626 = 0.0125 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 10:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00067889 = 2.1724 BTC [+]
Feb 16 10:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067431 = 2.9137 BTC [-]
Feb 16 10:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00067432 = 9.6091 BTC [+]
Feb 16 10:06:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 394 @ 0.00067889 = 0.2675 BTC [+]
Feb 16 10:06:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2285 @ 0.00067901 = 1.5515 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 10:14:08 <Diablo-D3>	http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2013/q1/326
Feb 16 10:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00067901 = 0.9506 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 10:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7301 @ 0.00067306 = 4.914 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 10:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	now that's some seriously subtle shit.
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Feb 16 10:41:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 939 @ 0.00067306 = 0.632 BTC [-]
Feb 16 10:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067272 = 2.9068 BTC [-]
Feb 16 10:41:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6799 @ 0.00067242 = 4.5718 BTC [-]
Feb 16 10:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15 @ 0.00067901 = 0.0102 BTC [+]
Feb 16 10:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00067934 = 2.8532 BTC [+]
Feb 16 10:42:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067962 = 2.9366 BTC [+]
Feb 16 10:42:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4714 @ 0.00067963 = 3.2038 BTC [+]
Feb 16 10:44:56 <Chaang-Noi>	2000 asicminer shares for sale, contact me if interested.
Feb 16 10:46:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 286 @ 0.00067963 = 0.1944 BTC [+]
Feb 16 10:46:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00067975 = 4.5543 BTC [+]
Feb 16 10:46:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 371 @ 0.00067988 = 0.2522 BTC [+]
Feb 16 10:49:46 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: just put it in the auctions forum
Feb 16 10:50:16 <Chaang-Noi>	meh, i want to just sell it in one block with out that pain if i can avoid it.
Feb 16 10:50:27 <Diablo-D3>	no one has quite that much cash
Feb 16 10:50:34 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
Feb 16 10:50:38 <Diablo-D3>	although one guy is bidding on an entire block of 5000
Feb 16 10:50:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, im only 2k
Feb 16 10:50:58 <Chaang-Noi>	ill take his price of .39 if he bought it all
Feb 16 10:51:02 <Diablo-D3>	I'll pay 100 BTC for it.
Feb 16 10:51:17 <Chaang-Noi>	for 2k?
Feb 16 10:51:25 <Diablo-D3>	yes.
Feb 16 10:52:22 <Chaang-Noi>	.05 btc when to going rate is .4?
Feb 16 10:52:42 <Diablo-D3>	yes.
Feb 16 10:52:47 <Chaang-Noi>	im going to pass.
Feb 16 10:52:54 <Diablo-D3>	then use the auctions thread
Feb 16 10:52:59 <Diablo-D3>	btw, you can always sell in blocks of 100
Feb 16 10:53:02 <Chaang-Noi>	meh
Feb 16 10:53:02 <Diablo-D3>	the 5000 guy is
Feb 16 10:53:49 <Chaang-Noi>	if i dont sell it it wont be the end of the world
Feb 16 10:54:05 <Diablo-D3>	you can always wait for the exchange to go up
Feb 16 10:54:46 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Feb 16 10:54:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i think .4 might be undervalued honestly
Feb 16 10:57:03 <pigeons>	http://www.coboloncogs.org/INDEX.HTM
Feb 16 10:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.0065 = 4.225 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:03:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5729 @ 0.00067988 = 3.895 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:03:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00067992 = 1.5638 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00068061 = 3.6072 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00068103 = 0.7294 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:08:03 <pigeons>	https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/16538-chick-fil-a-sauce-1-oz-28-grams
Feb 16 11:08:36 <Chaang-Noi>	i saw that pigeons!
Feb 16 11:10:02 <Chaang-Noi>	once i got out bid on someone selling nothing :)
Feb 16 11:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2329 @ 0.00068103 = 1.5861 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8371 @ 0.00068136 = 5.7037 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:11:47 <pigeons>	i'll give you a second chance offer on that
Feb 16 11:12:20 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 16 11:17:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2055 @ 0.00067872 = 1.3948 BTC [-]
Feb 16 11:20:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.0065 = 8.45 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:23:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2895 @ 0.00067872 = 1.9649 BTC [-]
Feb 16 11:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3429 @ 0.00068136 = 2.3364 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:25:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00068336 = 3.6218 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:25:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00068337 = 1.3667 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:26:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121 @ 0.00068372 = 0.0827 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 11:33:35 <truffles>	are there rich people who arent assholes it seems they go handinhand
Feb 16 11:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4298 @ 0.00067881 = 2.9175 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 11:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4591 @ 0.00068372 = 3.139 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4109 @ 0.00068402 = 2.8106 BTC [+]
Feb 16 11:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00651054 = 3.2553 BTC [+]
Feb 16 12:02:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.0006821 = 4.229 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 12:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5291 @ 0.00068402 = 3.6191 BTC [+]
Feb 16 12:06:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5759 @ 0.00068506 = 3.9453 BTC [+]
Feb 16 12:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyILRoOhvyQ
Feb 16 12:09:20 <DeadWeasel>	take it off, queenie
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Feb 16 12:10:11 <Ukto>	was ciuciu scammer tagged?
Feb 16 12:10:22 <Ukto>	forums arnt loading for me
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Feb 16 12:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto we need a service to warn of those 5 minutes a day when the forum does work
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Feb 16 12:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel did you get your coinbase credit btw ?
Feb 16 12:12:52 <DeadWeasel>	Still pending, 16 hours later, not included in block.
Feb 16 12:13:01 <Ukto>	5 minutes every X per day
Feb 16 12:13:25 <DeadWeasel>	no response to support emails.
Feb 16 12:13:41 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Feb 16 12:13:56 <DeadWeasel>	i think they sold my BTCs to someone else, now waiting to refill (someone to sell?)
Feb 16 12:13:59 <DeadWeasel>	i dunno, shady shit.
Feb 16 12:14:23 <Ukto>	I would say piss n moan on the forums but.. yeah.. about that.
Feb 16 12:15:33 <DeadWeasel>	i did last night.
Feb 16 12:15:43 <Ukto>	doesnt do much good with the site being dead
Feb 16 12:15:43 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 16 12:15:57 <DeadWeasel>	reddit too.  "Fred" from coinbase said not to worry in a comment.
Feb 16 12:16:04 <DeadWeasel>	weird how they can respond their but not support emails.
Feb 16 12:16:07 <Ukto>	how many hour ago was that
Feb 16 12:16:08 <DeadWeasel>	there*
Feb 16 12:16:12 <DeadWeasel>	16+
Feb 16 12:16:15 <Ukto>	ah
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Feb 16 12:16:20 <Ukto>	then he's being honest
Feb 16 12:16:28 <Ukto>	ever had someone tell you "Don't worry" and ever be wrong?
Feb 16 12:16:29 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 16 12:16:41 <Ukto>	Thats like saying "Trust me."
Feb 16 12:17:16 <Ukto>	"I won't trust my grandma with 1 bitcoin, what makes you think I will trust you with any dollars?"
Feb 16 12:17:49 <truffles>	grandma cant run off with it though
Feb 16 12:17:50 <DeadWeasel>	dammit.  I just wanted to get them into my secure wallet, but I can't even get them there.
Feb 16 12:18:07 <Ukto>	mebbe they oversold
Feb 16 12:18:09 <Ukto>	waiting for price to drop back
Feb 16 12:18:16 <Ukto>	and if it doesnt they will just refund you
Feb 16 12:18:16 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 16 12:18:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.0006821 = 12.005 BTC [-]
Feb 16 12:18:30 *	Ukto clicks 'Undo'
Feb 16 12:18:31 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 16 12:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 665 @ 0.00664629 = 4.4198 BTC [+]
Feb 16 12:18:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1680 @ 0.00665709 = 11.1839 BTC [+]
Feb 16 12:19:01 *	DeadWeasel has a hangover from lasts nights coinbase tirade.  no energy left to care.
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Feb 16 12:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile back at the ranch
Feb 16 12:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.cnbc.com/id/100442841
Feb 16 12:23:24 <mircea_popescu>	"The emergency court order freezes assets in a trading firm based in Zurich, Switzerland. The SEC said the freeze guarantees that potentially illegal profits can't be taken out of the account while its investigation continues."
Feb 16 12:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	basically, traders make money, sec doesn't agree they may keep it, money is frozen.
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Feb 16 12:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	now, and i quote,
Feb 16 12:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	"the suspicious traders will now have to make an appearance in court to explain their trading if they want their assets unfrozen."
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Feb 16 12:24:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.0006821 = 5.3545 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 12:25:48 <B0g4r7>	:sigh:
Feb 16 12:25:55 <B0g4r7>	The forums sure break a lot.
Feb 16 12:28:13 <Chaang-Noi>	have 2000 asicminer shares for sale,
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Feb 16 12:29:44 <B0g4r7>	Why're you selling?  :trollface:
Feb 16 12:29:46 <kakobrekla>	27 wall is gonna fall
Feb 16 12:30:15 <Chaang-Noi>	i want to sell half my stake to garantee profits
Feb 16 12:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0006821 = 4.7406 BTC [-]
Feb 16 12:30:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2007 @ 0.00067881 = 1.3624 BTC [-]
Feb 16 12:30:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5904 @ 0.00067273 = 3.9718 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 12:31:36 <B0g4r7>	Just buy 1k more and get on the board.  ;)
Feb 16 12:31:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i am on the board...
Feb 16 12:32:09 <B0g4r7>	ah, cool.
Feb 16 12:32:11 <Chaang-Noi>	but id rather have 800 btc than 2000 shares
Feb 16 12:32:12 <kakobrekla>	surfing board?
Feb 16 12:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1141 @ 0.00068506 = 0.7817 BTC [+]
Feb 16 12:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4293 @ 0.00068545 = 2.9426 BTC [+]
Feb 16 12:32:43 <B0g4r7>	Yeah, a bird in the hand.
Feb 16 12:32:57 <Chaang-Noi>	got bills
Feb 16 12:33:20 <Chaang-Noi>	im still keeping over half my shares
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Feb 16 12:34:46 <B0g4r7>	I almost bought shares at 0.09.
Feb 16 12:34:50 <B0g4r7>	But then I got high.
Feb 16 12:34:58 <B0g4r7>	Actually, but then glbse collapsed.
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Feb 16 12:41:37 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Feb 16 12:41:39 <kakobrekla>	are those asic bonds paying out yet?
Feb 16 12:42:00 <kakobrekla>	or how does that work
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Feb 16 12:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00068731 = 4.7424 BTC [+]
Feb 16 12:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2872 @ 0.00068805 = 1.9761 BTC [+]
Feb 16 12:44:56 <Chaang-Noi>	not paying yet, but mining
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Feb 16 12:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6159 @ 0.00068559 = 4.2225 BTC [-]
Feb 16 12:47:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5041 @ 0.00068518 = 3.454 BTC [-]
Feb 16 12:47:17 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 16 12:47:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.09272, Best ask: 27.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00728, Last trade: 27.10000, 24 hour volume: 28637.91569860, 24 hour low: 26.80750, 24 hour high: 27.50617, 24 hour vwap: 27.16874
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Feb 16 12:48:04 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 30
Feb 16 12:48:06 <gribble>	There are currently 33232.096 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 953345.261061 USD in total.
Feb 16 12:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/fiat-vs-bitcoin-a-comparison/
Feb 16 12:51:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1978 @ 0.00068805 = 1.361 BTC [+]
Feb 16 12:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2040 @ 0.00068835 = 1.4042 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 12:59:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1220 @ 0.00068518 = 0.8359 BTC [-]
Feb 16 12:59:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067806 = 2.9299 BTC [-]
Feb 16 12:59:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8159 @ 0.00067805 = 5.5322 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 13:02:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5560 @ 0.00068835 = 3.8272 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:02:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3399 @ 0.00068845 = 2.34 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 13:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1206 @ 0.00067805 = 0.8177 BTC [-]
Feb 16 13:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.000678 = 4.5765 BTC [-]
Feb 16 13:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2544 @ 0.00067628 = 1.7205 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 13:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 922 @ 0.00068845 = 0.6348 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5528 @ 0.00068846 = 3.8058 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 13:24:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2856 @ 0.00067628 = 1.9315 BTC [-]
Feb 16 13:24:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067274 = 2.9069 BTC [-]
Feb 16 13:24:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2023 @ 0.00067273 = 1.3609 BTC [-]
Feb 16 13:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068842 = 2.9747 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2116 @ 0.00068846 = 1.4568 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:28:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00067 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:32:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7305 @ 0.00068846 = 5.0292 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:32:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7095 @ 0.00068856 = 4.8853 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 13:38:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2710 @ 0.00067273 = 1.8231 BTC [-]
Feb 16 13:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067253 = 2.906 BTC [-]
Feb 16 13:38:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8469 @ 0.00067252 = 5.6956 BTC [-]
Feb 16 13:43:18 <Ukto>	btw kimdotcom backing bitcoin https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/302844443223023616
Feb 16 13:44:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 57 @ 0.00665709 = 0.3795 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2348 @ 0.00689999 = 16.2012 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00194988 = 0.9749 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1500 @ 0.00165 = 2.475 BTC [-]
Feb 16 13:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2700 @ 0.00195 = 5.265 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.001955 = 9.775 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.00196 = 9.8 BTC [+]
Feb 16 13:53:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 3302 @ 0.001965 = 6.4884 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 14:05:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00068435 = 7.6989 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 14:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067648 = 2.9231 BTC [-]
Feb 16 14:09:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2379 @ 0.00067664 = 1.6097 BTC [+]
Feb 16 14:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5447 @ 0.00067662 = 3.6855 BTC [-]
Feb 16 14:18:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153 @ 0.00067664 = 0.1035 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 14:25:57 <error4733>	28$ !!
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Feb 16 14:26:43 <error4733>	tmrw
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Feb 16 14:29:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 16 14:29:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.23000, Best ask: 27.23700, Bid-ask spread: 0.00700, Last trade: 27.23700, 24 hour volume: 24415.94090532, 24 hour low: 26.80750, 24 hour high: 27.50617, 24 hour vwap: 27.17259
Feb 16 14:31:15 <error4733>	;;ticker m s.dice
Feb 16 14:31:15 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
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Feb 16 14:33:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00067664 = 5.6499 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 14:58:45 <jurov>	 one day away and what do i see? <usagi> [14:39:49] CoinBr.MPBPT-O at 0.10999... makes 0.999...%
Feb 16 14:59:19 <jurov>	NOPE. Since it was sold around 0.1, it made 9.999%
Feb 16 15:02:29 <jurov>	also, it's still on frontpage of bitfunder....
Feb 16 15:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067253 = 2.906 BTC [-]
Feb 16 15:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6231 @ 0.00067252 = 4.1905 BTC [-]
Feb 16 15:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2540 @ 0.00067242 = 1.7079 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 15:12:23 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 16 15:12:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.33999, Best ask: 27.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01001, Last trade: 27.37997, 24 hour volume: 24475.57973389, 24 hour low: 26.80750, 24 hour high: 27.50617, 24 hour vwap: 27.18062
Feb 16 15:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00067201 = 0.4032 BTC [-]
Feb 16 15:16:23 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 16 15:16:24 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 18 hours, 5 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 16 15:16:30 <thestringpuller>	:(
Feb 16 15:16:36 <thestringpuller>	hope he's not dead
Feb 16 15:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00067214 = 5.9148 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 15:25:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00067201 = 0.6048 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 15:27:30 <pigeons>	jurov: so if I buy CoinBr.MPBPT-O at 0.10099999, March MPBOR needs to be what for me to break even?
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Feb 16 15:28:28 <jurov>	it needs to be 0.999%
Feb 16 15:29:29 <jurov>	usagi was correct, i misread that
Feb 16 15:30:40 <pigeons>	seems to be a good deal to me
Feb 16 15:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00067201 = 5.1073 BTC [-]
Feb 16 15:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4315 @ 0.00066994 = 2.8908 BTC [-]
Feb 16 15:35:22 <jurov>	yes, i'm interested myself why anyone is selling at that price :)
Feb 16 15:35:32 <jurov>	maybe it's eskimobob
Feb 16 15:37:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00067214 = 7.864 BTC [+]
Feb 16 15:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4192 @ 0.00067214 = 2.8176 BTC [+]
Feb 16 15:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2858 @ 0.00067663 = 1.9338 BTC [+]
Feb 16 15:48:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.00067 = 0.0067 BTC [+]
Feb 16 15:54:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00449 = 0.0449 BTC [-]
Feb 16 15:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1463 @ 0.00067663 = 0.9899 BTC [+]
Feb 16 15:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7018 @ 0.00067664 = 4.7487 BTC [+]
Feb 16 15:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 719 @ 0.00067966 = 0.4887 BTC [+]
Feb 16 15:57:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3031 @ 0.00067966 = 2.06 BTC [+]
Feb 16 15:57:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6886 @ 0.00068019 = 4.6838 BTC [+]
Feb 16 16:03:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.99 = 2.97 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 16:15:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00067 = 0.067 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 16:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1214 @ 0.00068019 = 0.8258 BTC [+]
Feb 16 16:20:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6696 @ 0.00068649 = 4.5967 BTC [+]
Feb 16 16:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2905 @ 0.00068856 = 2.0003 BTC [+]
Feb 16 16:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2285 @ 0.00068894 = 1.5742 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 16:22:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067628 = 2.9222 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:22:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3479 @ 0.00067625 = 2.3527 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:27:08 <PsychoticBoy>	;;seen usagi
Feb 16 16:27:08 <gribble>	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 40 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <usagi> so if the underlying bond then returns 5% you get back 0.105
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Feb 16 16:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5371 @ 0.00067625 = 3.6321 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3711 @ 0.00066994 = 2.4861 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3187 @ 0.00066956 = 2.1339 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:33:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2481 @ 0.00066832 = 1.6581 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:36:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3219 @ 0.00066832 = 2.1513 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:36:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6756 @ 0.00066776 = 4.5114 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00066681 = 5.7346 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00066536 = 1.1976 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 16:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5383 @ 0.00066216 = 3.5644 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 16:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.0006576 = 3.3912 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5985 @ 0.00065748 = 3.935 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:55:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00065703 = 5.2562 BTC [-]
Feb 16 16:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8658 @ 0.000657 = 5.6883 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 16:58:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.000657 = 1.1826 BTC [-]
Feb 16 17:00:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00067 = 0.067 BTC [+]
Feb 16 17:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5557 @ 0.00066216 = 3.6796 BTC [+]
Feb 16 17:08:37 <wao>	http://bitcoinmagazine.com/mega-sidesteps-us-state-censorship-with-bitcoin/
Feb 16 17:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.000657 = 6.8328 BTC [-]
Feb 16 17:14:20 <dub>	what the fuck
Feb 16 17:15:59 <dub>	dude is beyond retarded
Feb 16 17:16:11 <dub>	They accused Megaupload owner Kim Dotcom of a number of criminal indictments and begun a legal case.
Feb 16 17:16:17 <dub>	ENGLISH motherfucker
Feb 16 17:17:58 <pigeons>	is anyone's name on that article?
Feb 16 17:18:05 <pigeons>	"Bitcoin is more than drugs, sex and criminal gangsters. "
Feb 16 17:18:09 <dub>	its amir
Feb 16 17:18:17 <dub>	(of course)
Feb 16 17:18:28 <pigeons>	are you fucking kidding me?
Feb 16 17:18:36 <dub>	the official drooling mouthbreather of bitcoin pr
Feb 16 17:18:36 <pigeons>	no shit
Feb 16 17:19:53 <pigeons>	i've not heard of bitvoucher
Feb 16 17:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	amir is now writing for bitcoinrag ?
Feb 16 17:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is strangely fitting.
Feb 16 17:21:51 <pigeons>	http://unsystem.net/static/ppl/taaki.jpg
Feb 16 17:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.0066063 = 0.9909 BTC [-]
Feb 16 17:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 29 @ 0.00654141 = 0.1897 BTC [-]
Feb 16 17:23:02 <dub>	you can actually see the stupid in his face in that shot
Feb 16 17:23:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4142 @ 0.000657 = 2.7213 BTC [-]
Feb 16 17:23:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00065642 = 0.9846 BTC [-]
Feb 16 17:23:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9558 @ 0.00065621 = 6.2721 BTC [-]
Feb 16 17:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	i like the door.
Feb 16 17:23:54 <pigeons>	ok bitvoucher just sells the megaupload codes, https://zipbit.co/ takes their bitcoin
Feb 16 17:25:14 <dub>	mircea_popescu: iirc him and the interscamgo set were in with vlad from teh start?
Feb 16 17:25:36 <BitHub>	can i buy any mega shares? :P
Feb 16 17:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think the minions (taaki, vlad, whatgever) are in with anyone particularly.
Feb 16 17:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	they just do what told.
Feb 16 17:26:29 <dub>	meh, I tuned out after they published teh first cover
Feb 16 17:26:36 <pigeons>	Currently, only New Zealand and Bermuda merchants can use zipbit's services
Feb 16 17:26:56 <dub>	thats like, 18 people?
Feb 16 17:27:00 <BitHub>	no Australians?
Feb 16 17:27:02 <BitHub>	wtf?
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Feb 16 17:29:53 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: kimdotcom has his own rota http://www.fscl.org.nz/
Feb 16 17:31:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol except his is stupid and fat.
Feb 16 17:31:36 <dub>	that is KDCs?
Feb 16 17:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	so basically zipbit's patrick harnett's secret grinch project
Feb 16 17:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	dub ya
Feb 16 17:32:04 <pigeons>	clickt "list of participants and its 403 forbidden
Feb 16 17:32:07 <dub>	citation needed
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Feb 16 17:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11335 @ 0.00066216 = 7.5056 BTC [+]
Feb 16 17:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2965 @ 0.00067449 = 1.9999 BTC [+]
Feb 16 17:34:23 <pigeons>	Trevor Slater, General Manager
Feb 16 17:34:46 <pigeons>	, ceo
Feb 16 17:34:52 <pigeons>	Susan Taylor
Feb 16 17:35:25 <pigeons>	sorry, i'll take a break
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Feb 16 17:36:09 <pigeons>	fuck it is patrick
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Feb 16 17:37:07 <pigeons>	Trendon did say he was "working for Bitcoin" too
Feb 16 17:37:39 <dub>	those people worked for the govt banking disputes resolution scheme, unlikely to be mega shills
Feb 16 17:37:46 <mircea_popescu>	pretty soon the scammers allied with the idiots will dominate everything
Feb 16 17:37:55 <pigeons>	no they are his rota
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Feb 16 17:38:17 <dub>	where is the link?
Feb 16 17:38:18 <pigeons>	Bruce Wagner, Human Resources
Feb 16 17:39:07 <pigeons>	Jonathan Ryan Owens, Marketing
Feb 16 17:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	this has got to be a joke
Feb 16 17:39:53 <dub>	whats jokey about it?
Feb 16 17:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00065785 = 3.5524 BTC [-]
Feb 16 17:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	cause bruce is better at marketing
Feb 16 17:40:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00065621 = 1.3124 BTC [-]
Feb 16 17:40:29 <pigeons>	but he gets to hire the interns this way
Feb 16 17:41:35 <Namworld>	xD
Feb 16 17:41:45 <dub>	fscl just looks like an advisory service for ombudsman cases
Feb 16 17:42:31 <dub>	financial ambulance chasers
Feb 16 17:43:33 <pigeons>	rota
Feb 16 17:43:39 <dub>	well no
Feb 16 17:43:57 <dub>	its nothing like that at all from first glance
Feb 16 17:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5335 @ 0.00067449 = 3.5984 BTC [+]
Feb 16 17:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068034 = 2.9397 BTC [+]
Feb 16 17:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00068035 = 1.2246 BTC [+]
Feb 16 17:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2925 @ 0.00068254 = 1.9964 BTC [+]
Feb 16 17:44:17 <pigeons>	FSCL is an independent not-for-profit External Dispute Resolution (EDR) scheme
Feb 16 17:44:30 <dub>	they take your case to the DRS and clip the ticket
Feb 16 17:45:08 <dub>	http://www.fscl.org.nz/faq.php scope is the same as the actual service
Feb 16 17:45:13 <dub>	er http://www.cab.org.nz/vat/money/bit/Pages/TheBankingOmbudsman.aspx
Feb 16 17:45:18 <truffles>	i guess i could go make a complaint about polimedia hmm
Feb 16 17:47:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.331 = 0.662 BTC [-]
Feb 16 17:47:33 <pigeons>	truffles: no, this is where you make a complaint against patrick harnett, he recuses himself and his friends say he should nake some token gesture and be cleared
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Feb 16 17:48:39 <truffles>	dont know who that is
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Feb 16 17:50:59 <pigeons>	borrowed tons of money at super-high rates, had his own "credit rating agency" that said all these stoners were "no risk", ran a passthrogh to ponzi@40,
Feb 16 17:51:37 <truffles>	sounds bad
Feb 16 17:51:51 <truffles>	scammers gonna scam
Feb 16 17:52:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5000 @ 0.00067 = 3.35 BTC [+]
Feb 16 17:52:37 <pigeons>	made an agreement with mircea_popescu to invest someof his money in his lending business that would not be in pirate, flat out lied and everyone in that security that mp ran an etf that held some, they all lost
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Feb 16 17:53:15 <pigeons>	right he was in MPCDO or whatever?
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Feb 16 18:15:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00626 = 0.0438 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 18:23:46 <pigeons>	https://sites.google.com/a/bitcoin2012.com/homepage/_/rsrc/1332304086483/config/logo-medium.png
Feb 16 18:25:08 <pigeons>	do you like that one, or this one https://sites.google.com/a/bitcoin2012.com/homepage/_/rsrc/1343922718967/config/ad_bdt.jpg
Feb 16 18:25:46 <Anduck>	both suck
Feb 16 18:26:04 <Anduck>	soz
Feb 16 18:26:10 <Anduck>	1st one sucks less
Feb 16 18:26:21 <pigeons>	oh, your  more of a https://sites.google.com/a/bitcoin2012.com/homepage/_/rsrc/1332293239618/config/intersango.png guy?
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Feb 16 18:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	lmao what is this, the logo cemetery ?
Feb 16 18:30:55 <pigeons>	https://s-media-cache-ec1.pinimg.com/550x/8f/fe/7c/8ffe7ca82beb62232e47f511294c8f8e.jpg
Feb 16 18:31:23 <pigeons>	i have these in hi-res if you want them for printing high quality posters
Feb 16 18:31:27 <pigeons>	https://s-media-cache-ec5.pinimg.com/550x/32/b8/3f/32b83feb0ae476de8bcea0c82126d014.jpg
Feb 16 18:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	a.... a gir ?!
Feb 16 18:32:04 <PsychoticBoy>	Nefario posters, get them while their hot
Feb 16 18:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	photochop am i rite ?
Feb 16 18:32:24 <PsychoticBoy>	true, or transgender
Feb 16 18:34:39 <pigeons>	https://s-media-cache-ec9.pinimg.com/550x/31/49/e0/3149e02cc3eff69ea2731d8fd0fcc1d8.jpg
Feb 16 18:35:23 <pigeons>	i'll stop, but i like to share
Feb 16 18:35:34 <pigeons>	https://s-media-cache-ec4.pinimg.com/550x/97/a8/42/97a84201ac7873ff91a3dcfaf069055a.jpg
Feb 16 18:35:53 <wao>	like someone is selfposting
Feb 16 18:35:53 <wao>	:p
Feb 16 18:43:56 <PsychoticBoy>	I am not on the pics and I was there
Feb 16 18:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065921 = 2.8484 BTC [-]
Feb 16 18:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6579 @ 0.00065906 = 4.336 BTC [-]
Feb 16 18:59:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2671 @ 0.00065906 = 1.7603 BTC [-]
Feb 16 18:59:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 31448 @ 0.00067 = 21.0702 BTC [+]
Feb 16 18:59:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00069 BTC [+]
Feb 16 19:00:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.0007 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Feb 16 19:00:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.00078 = 0.0078 BTC [+]
Feb 16 19:00:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.00079 = 0.0024 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 19:03:19 <zanz>	anyone got any info on how to actually make money using mpex.co?
Feb 16 19:03:31 <zanz>	like any info on or around the subject
Feb 16 19:04:26 *	You are now known as asciilifeform
Feb 16 19:04:50 <asciilifeform>	zanz: I made 0.4 BTC (or 1.4 BTC, depending on how you count) using MPEX
Feb 16 19:05:06 <pigeons>	zanz, you buy stuff low and sell high, or you buy and hold and receive monthly dividends, or you buy and sell puts and calls on the price of bitcoin
Feb 16 19:05:06 <asciilifeform>	zanz: details here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108
Feb 16 19:06:00 <zanz>	ah yes, my days of the eve stock exchange have come back to me. how big is it atm?  cheers for the good responses by the way
Feb 16 19:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	zanz ideally you buy low and sell high
Feb 16 19:07:00 <mircea_popescu>	if you catch bugpowder online sometime you could probably bug him for tips, i think he's one of the more successful traders
Feb 16 19:08:26 <zanz>	cheers bud. see reddit is now accepting bitcoins...
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Feb 16 19:10:27 <usagi>	hai
Feb 16 19:11:18 <pigeons>	how's your learn japanese site usagi?
Feb 16 19:11:29 <mircea_popescu>	silvery.
Feb 16 19:11:35 <usagi>	pigeons; On hold while I develop my wood shop
Feb 16 19:12:02 <usagi>	Someone gave me some really good advice a while ago
Feb 16 19:12:03 <thestringpuller>	stop being poops
Feb 16 19:12:08 <thestringpuller>	will someone buy me food for btc
Feb 16 19:12:29 <usagi>	about giving away content for free. So I'm going to move in a tangorin-like direction and offer a free dictionary on the face of it
Feb 16 19:13:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
Feb 16 19:13:47 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: buy me food lol
Feb 16 19:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	you know i've never used a credit card online ?
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Feb 16 19:16:25 <usagi>	pigeons do you run a company?
Feb 16 19:17:53 <pigeons>	no
Feb 16 19:18:12 <usagi>	My wooden swords have increased in quality since I bought a router.
Feb 16 19:18:41 <usagi>	If I get a guiderail I might try doing something pro quality
Feb 16 19:19:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.0063 = 1.89 BTC [+]
Feb 16 19:19:52 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 16 19:19:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.38000, Best ask: 27.39978, Bid-ask spread: 0.01978, Last trade: 27.14000, 24 hour volume: 18524.25762086, 24 hour low: 26.80750, 24 hour high: 27.49989, 24 hour vwap: 27.16598
Feb 16 19:19:54 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 16 19:19:55 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 22 hours, 9 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 16 19:20:02 <thestringpuller>	:(
Feb 16 19:20:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.00079 = 0.0063 BTC [+]
Feb 16 19:20:25 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: have you heard from smickles outside the channel (email/anything else) I'm slightly worried.
Feb 16 19:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 16 19:20:49 <thestringpuller>	should I be worried?
Feb 16 19:20:57 <thestringpuller>	that the assassins have been dispatched?
Feb 16 19:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	hm.
Feb 16 19:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	afaik his wife was due sometime this spring
Feb 16 19:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he had an early surprise.
Feb 16 19:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	did you try emailing him ?
Feb 16 19:22:20 <thestringpuller>	Not as of yet. I don't need anything, I was just hoping he was okay.
Feb 16 19:22:45 <pigeons>	his blog was reset
Feb 16 19:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00065792 = 12.336 BTC [-]
Feb 16 19:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2842 @ 0.00065621 = 1.8649 BTC [-]
Feb 16 19:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 358 @ 0.00065554 = 0.2347 BTC [-]
Feb 16 19:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	what was his blog again ?
Feb 16 19:23:43 <thestringpuller>	something mostofmany
Feb 16 19:24:22 <pigeons>	http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/btc-is-scammed-about-as-much-as-usd/
Feb 16 19:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	o yea
Feb 16 19:24:30 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Feb 16 19:25:22 <pigeons>	not him http://sm.ickl.es/
Feb 16 19:25:24 <thestringpuller>	did he take the money and run? I would hate to insinuate as much.
Feb 16 19:26:07 <pigeons>	he's not been around for about 2 weeks, that's not unprecedented for him
Feb 16 19:26:39 <pigeons>	oh my i dont know about money and communication
Feb 16 19:27:02 <pigeons>	if he is your broker and didnt say anything and gone for 2 weeks thats different
Feb 16 19:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	so email him
Feb 16 19:27:50 <pigeons>	right assuming he's not answered your emails
Feb 16 19:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno that he's had that much money to run with anyway
Feb 16 19:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	he certainly had hundreds of my btcs at various past points (none atm)
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Feb 16 19:30:56 <thestringpuller>	nah unofficial broker
Feb 16 19:31:05 <thestringpuller>	I just hope the assassins weren't dispatched
Feb 16 19:31:09 <thestringpuller>	and the feds got to him or something
Feb 16 19:31:16 <thestringpuller>	since we're american and we can be killed at any time :P
Feb 16 19:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	dude get out
Feb 16 19:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	life's not quite as cinematic as all that
Feb 16 19:32:30 <thestringpuller>	Hahahaha
Feb 16 19:33:02 <truffles>	until we get a chris dorner
Feb 16 19:43:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00065681 = 5.1888 BTC [+]
Feb 16 19:43:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00065806 = 8.9167 BTC [+]
Feb 16 19:44:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 372 @ 0.00637 = 2.3696 BTC [+]
Feb 16 19:45:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1509 @ 0.00654141 = 9.871 BTC [-]
Feb 16 19:46:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17142 @ 0.00065554 = 11.2373 BTC [-]
Feb 16 19:46:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14676 @ 0.00065526 = 9.6166 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:03:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00065806 = 1.9742 BTC [+]
Feb 16 20:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2674 @ 0.00065526 = 1.7522 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10757 @ 0.0006552 = 7.048 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00065493 = 5.7634 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5353 @ 0.00065485 = 3.5054 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00065476 = 10.6071 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00065465 = 8.936 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00065447 = 1.9634 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1109 @ 0.00065445 = 0.7258 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00065261 = 9.9523 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.0006519 = 1.9557 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10208 @ 0.00065072 = 6.6425 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2853 @ 0.00064875 = 1.8509 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064838 = 2.1397 BTC [-]
Feb 16 20:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1246 @ 0.0006466 = 0.8057 BTC [-]
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Feb 16 20:14:45 <pigeons>	https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/16917-secret-autowin-satoshidice-address-shhh-only-posting-this-once
Feb 16 20:14:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00639 = 0.0192 BTC [+]
Feb 16 20:15:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 47 @ 0.00639 = 0.3003 BTC [+]
Feb 16 20:15:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 700 @ 0.0063 = 4.41 BTC [+]
Feb 16 20:32:28 <dub>	listen very carefully I shall post this only once
Feb 16 20:32:36 <usagi>	sex
Feb 16 20:32:41 <dub>	zee train was bummed
Feb 16 20:44:43 <Diablo-D3>	http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/02/16/mega-update-dotcoms-service-now-accepts-bitcoin-will-expand-into-email-chat-voice-video-and-mobile/
Feb 16 20:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	dude what service, seriously.
Feb 16 20:48:29 <mircea_popescu>	nobody cares.
Feb 16 20:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	siome fat fuck nobody cares about trying to hang on so the spotlight.
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Feb 16 21:03:59 <truffles>	somebody cares itc
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Feb 16 21:04:50 <thestringpuller>	who ever makes the grubhub of bitcoin will be very rich
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Feb 16 21:05:33 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Feb 16 21:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006466 / 0.00066815 / 0.00068894 (1489738 shares, 995.38 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00064431 / 0.00068894 (13311812 shares, 8,577.03 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066235 / 0.0007 (74869311 shares, 49,589.96 BTC)
Feb 16 21:05:58 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,diff
Feb 16 21:05:59 <gribble>	3275464.5865656
Feb 16 21:06:09 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,next
Feb 16 21:06:09 <gribble>	Error: "bc,next" is not a valid command.
Feb 16 21:06:14 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,nb
Feb 16 21:06:14 <gribble>	Error: "bc,nb" is not a valid command.
Feb 16 21:06:18 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,nextblock
Feb 16 21:06:18 <gribble>	Error: "bc,nextblock" is not a valid command.
Feb 16 21:06:23 <thestringpuller>	:(
Feb 16 21:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	about 3.6
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Feb 16 21:42:50 <DeadWeasel>	what exchanges to buy/sell btc do you use?
Feb 16 21:43:03 <DeadWeasel>	first, fuck coinbase, second, what exchanges do you use?
Feb 16 21:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4171 @ 0.0006466 = 2.697 BTC [-]
Feb 16 21:43:12 <DeadWeasel>	i only want to hold, but I want my accounts set up for the future
Feb 16 21:46:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1904 @ 0.0063 = 11.9952 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 21:54:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00671476 = 1.343 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 21:55:46 <Chaang-Noi>	2000 asic miners shares for sale now before i list them on the forum pm me if interested.
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Feb 16 21:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064581 = 2.7905 BTC [-]
Feb 16 21:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5077 @ 0.0006458 = 3.2787 BTC [-]
Feb 16 21:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3767 @ 0.00064571 = 2.4324 BTC [-]
Feb 16 22:01:33 <Chaang-Noi>	who wants to be an escrow for 800 plus btc? :)
Feb 16 22:01:42 <kakobrekla>	fee?
Feb 16 22:01:57 <Chaang-Noi>	haha, what is the going rate?
Feb 16 22:02:05 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Feb 16 22:02:10 <Chaang-Noi>	also do you have a forum account?
Feb 16 22:02:19 <kakobrekla>	ya
Feb 16 22:02:34 <kakobrekla>	what does a forum account have to do with this
Feb 16 22:02:51 <Chaang-Noi>	ill be having an auction on the forum
Feb 16 22:02:59 <Chaang-Noi>	so the noobs will have to trust you
Feb 16 22:03:20 <kakobrekla>	what are you selling?
Feb 16 22:04:30 <Chaang-Noi>	2000 asic miner shares
Feb 16 22:04:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i expect to bring in 800 plus btc
Feb 16 22:04:52 <Chaang-Noi>	no one wants to buy in bulk so far
Feb 16 22:04:55 <kakobrekla>	how are they being dlivered?
Feb 16 22:04:59 <kakobrekla>	delivered?
Feb 16 22:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064624 = 2.7924 BTC [+]
Feb 16 22:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12056 @ 0.00064649 = 7.7941 BTC [+]
Feb 16 22:05:58 <Chaang-Noi>	when friedcat hands then out, i send to their account and then i get the btc from escrow
Feb 16 22:06:14 <Chaang-Noi>	i assume that is what the others are doing
Feb 16 22:06:28 <kakobrekla>	how is he handing out?
Feb 16 22:06:37 <kakobrekla>	there must be a good way to verify delivery
Feb 16 22:06:38 <Chaang-Noi>	he is going to list it
Feb 16 22:06:59 <Chaang-Noi>	honestly i dont know, but this is how the others are doing it
Feb 16 22:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 912 @ 0.00064649 = 0.5896 BTC [+]
Feb 16 22:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00065806 = 0.2632 BTC [+]
Feb 16 22:07:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11479 @ 0.00065829 = 7.5565 BTC [+]
Feb 16 22:07:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13009 @ 0.00065933 = 8.5772 BTC [+]
Feb 16 22:07:29 <Chaang-Noi>	if nothing else ill just tell friedcat who bought what, i asked him about my saelling it and he okayed it
Feb 16 22:08:17 <kakobrekla>	are those bonds going to be publicly traded?
Feb 16 22:08:28 <Chaang-Noi>	yes, soon
Feb 16 22:08:28 <kakobrekla>	on an exchange
Feb 16 22:08:32 <kakobrekla>	which one?
Feb 16 22:08:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know lol
Feb 16 22:08:46 <kakobrekla>	jeez.
Feb 16 22:08:51 <Chaang-Noi>	why you want to buy them? :)
Feb 16 22:09:03 <kakobrekla>	dunno if.
Feb 16 22:09:24 <kakobrekla>	but if you want me to do escrow i have to know how its going down
Feb 16 22:09:43 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, there are some things that have not been answered by friedcat
Feb 16 22:09:54 <Chaang-Noi>	he is working on the asics and well no one really seems to care
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Feb 16 22:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2361 @ 0.00064582 = 1.5248 BTC [-]
Feb 16 22:21:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 424 @ 0.00064571 = 0.2738 BTC [-]
Feb 16 22:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	so apparently someone's blasting btc-e off da internets.
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Feb 16 22:26:43 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah mp it has been going on for a few days
Feb 16 22:26:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i only have 20 btc left with them now
Feb 16 22:26:56 <mircea_popescu>	the novacoin drama ?
Feb 16 22:27:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i hope so
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Feb 16 22:27:20 <Chaang-Noi>	i like btc-e
Feb 16 22:27:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i trust them not to work with dea/fbi cia
Feb 16 22:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065927 = 2.8487 BTC [+]
Feb 16 22:27:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6341 @ 0.00065933 = 4.1808 BTC [+]
Feb 16 22:27:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5587 @ 0.0006633 = 3.7059 BTC [+]
Feb 16 22:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	why, just cause they're russians or w.e ?
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Feb 16 22:40:44 <usagi>	yes
Feb 16 22:42:44 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah russian cyber criminals
Feb 16 22:42:52 <Chaang-Noi>	they use btc-e to launder their money...
Feb 16 22:43:06 <Chaang-Noi>	also the best use of alt coins ever...
Feb 16 22:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064587 = 2.7908 BTC [-]
Feb 16 22:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6402 @ 0.00064571 = 4.1338 BTC [-]
Feb 16 23:04:21 <Chaang-Noi>	oh this fucking forum
Feb 16 23:04:35 <Chaang-Noi>	its not like they dont have piles of btc to pay for shit that works
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Feb 16 23:09:04 <truffles>	bitcoin sites are on the run from feds?
Feb 16 23:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 607 @ 0.00064571 = 0.3919 BTC [-]
Feb 16 23:09:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064553 = 2.7893 BTC [-]
Feb 16 23:09:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00064552 = 10.877 BTC [-]
Feb 16 23:09:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1186 @ 0.000643 = 0.7626 BTC [-]
Feb 16 23:10:16 <Chaang-Noi>	lol i highly doubt it
Feb 16 23:10:54 <truffles>	seeming like their looking over the shoulder lots
Feb 16 23:11:06 <truffles>	theyre
Feb 16 23:12:37 <Chaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144574.0   oh lol type in the title
Feb 16 23:12:39 <Chaang-Noi>	typo
Feb 16 23:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065073 = 2.8118 BTC [+]
Feb 16 23:16:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00065103 = 9.8631 BTC [+]
Feb 16 23:23:00 <B0g4r7>	Isn't there like a 2700 btc bounty for new forum software?
Feb 16 23:23:29 <broomkorn>	thats one expensive forum
Feb 16 23:25:59 <B0g4r7>	http://wedge.org/pub/off/7386/bitcointalk-org-$11k-bounty-for-new-forum-software/
Feb 16 23:26:51 <usagi>	isn't it morew like $100k now?
Feb 16 23:26:56 <usagi>	3500 bitcoins at 27
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Feb 16 23:29:57 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah it is stupid how high it is
Feb 16 23:30:07 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe theymos will kill it and run off with the money
Feb 16 23:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17723 @ 0.00066085 = 11.7122 BTC [+]
Feb 16 23:30:23 <Chaang-Noi>	forum is more or less dead now
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Feb 16 23:41:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2148 @ 0.00066085 = 1.4195 BTC [+]
Feb 16 23:47:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34 @ 0.00066085 = 0.0225 BTC [+]
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Feb 16 23:58:14 <DeadWeasel>	what charting software is good?
Feb 16 23:58:48 <broomkorn>	i like multicharts
Feb 17 00:00:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064333 = 2.7798 BTC [-]
Feb 17 00:00:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1579 @ 0.00064332 = 1.0158 BTC [-]
Feb 17 00:00:48 <DeadWeasel>	thx broom, i'll look it up.
Feb 17 00:04:04 <OneFixt>	anyone selling xrp?
Feb 17 00:07:28 <knotwork>	check offers in #ripple-market
Feb 17 00:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9392 @ 0.00064332 = 6.0421 BTC [-]
Feb 17 00:08:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 384 @ 0.000643 = 0.2469 BTC [-]
Feb 17 00:08:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9474 @ 0.00064268 = 6.0888 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 00:16:37 <Chaang-Noi>	xrp? is that ripple?
Feb 17 00:16:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess so
Feb 17 00:16:55 <jcpham>	Yes chaaaaaaang
Feb 17 00:17:05 <jcpham>	You can't have any
Feb 17 00:17:12 <jcpham>	Don't bother asking
Feb 17 00:21:16 <jcpham>	Becuase it's mysterious
Feb 17 00:21:54 <jcpham>	Xrp = ripple for sure though
Feb 17 00:22:13 <OneFixt>	yup, it's ripple
Feb 17 00:22:32 <OneFixt>	it's very mysterious, and i'd like to buy it
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Feb 17 00:24:11 <Chaang-Noi>	im not interested and wont be until they explain how things work:/
Feb 17 00:24:49 <Chaang-Noi>	also, i do not like debt and well.. it seems all they trade in is debt.
Feb 17 00:32:19 <Chaang-Noi>	selling gold and or silver shipped from the usa, will take btc or ltc, escrow is fine.
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Feb 17 00:32:55 <usagi>	ahh I just bought 40oz
Feb 17 00:33:10 <Chaang-Noi>	of gold or of malt liquir?
Feb 17 00:33:23 <usagi>	I run TU.SILVER on bitfunder.
Feb 17 00:33:30 <usagi>	I'll keep you in mind for next time, what are your prices compared to spot
Feb 17 00:33:33 <Chaang-Noi>	:)   i was just being an ass  :)
Feb 17 00:33:45 <usagi>	Oh? I didn't notice any difference
Feb 17 00:33:54 <Chaang-Noi>	most of the time im a cock.
Feb 17 00:34:22 <usagi>	playing both sides of the fence i see
Feb 17 00:34:32 <Chaang-Noi>	im not sure if i will sell in the future but feel free to ask. im sure my price will be better than anyone else.
Feb 17 00:35:01 <Chaang-Noi>	esp better than coinibul
Feb 17 00:35:14 <usagi>	I sell for 1.4/oz right now
Feb 17 00:35:35 <Chaang-Noi>	1.4 btc per oz?
Feb 17 00:35:39 <usagi>	For what you can get, 1/2oz rounds, it's a steal
Feb 17 00:35:49 <usagi>	Although I only have 76 of those left
Feb 17 00:35:52 <usagi>	yea
Feb 17 00:36:00 <Chaang-Noi>	damn i was going to sell at spot.
Feb 17 00:36:09 <usagi>	Depends what you have
Feb 17 00:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5966 @ 0.00064705 = 3.8603 BTC [+]
Feb 17 00:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2999 @ 0.00064739 = 1.9415 BTC [+]
Feb 17 00:36:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i was going to sell 1 oz englhard bars 1 oz each, they have serial numbers on them
Feb 17 00:36:38 <usagi>	Shipping is an important concern as well, you could sell for spot, but I'd have to pay more anyways because of shipping
Feb 17 00:36:47 <usagi>	Gold?
Feb 17 00:36:50 <Chaang-Noi>	if shipping to china then yeah
Feb 17 00:36:59 <Chaang-Noi>	gold i have a 1 oz swiss bar
Feb 17 00:37:13 <Chaang-Noi>	i also have 1/10 1/4 and 1/2 krugerands but not at spot
Feb 17 00:37:15 <usagi>	Well if its not a business sell for spot, sure, who cares, the important factor isn't making 3% on spot but getting in and out at a price you enjoy
Feb 17 00:37:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i need beer mone
Feb 17 00:37:33 <Chaang-Noi>	money*
Feb 17 00:37:41 <Chaang-Noi>	plus maybe an MBA....
Feb 17 00:38:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2797 @ 0.00064268 = 1.7976 BTC [-]
Feb 17 00:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.0006425 = 8.3846 BTC [-]
Feb 17 00:38:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6153 @ 0.00064237 = 3.9525 BTC [-]
Feb 17 00:38:18 <Chaang-Noi>	one thing that might hurt me is if the btc price correct down to $20 before i can get beer/education
Feb 17 00:38:34 <Chaang-Noi>	my gold/silver is more or less my fiat savings
Feb 17 00:38:39 <usagi>	lol
Feb 17 00:38:48 <Chaang-Noi>	my low risk savings...
Feb 17 00:38:57 <usagi>	that's better
Feb 17 00:39:14 <jcpham>	I'm a plain ol boring working stiff
Feb 17 00:39:27 <jcpham>	I have money rolling in all the time
Feb 17 00:39:37 <Chaang-Noi>	no one seems to want to higher me for some odd reason
Feb 17 00:40:02 <jcpham>	I live check to check and i piss on everything
Feb 17 00:40:06 <jcpham>	Woohoo
Feb 17 00:40:29 <Chaang-Noi>	checks? what are they again? :)
Feb 17 00:40:43 <jcpham>	Chaang-Noi you should definitely donate to my save the children fund
Feb 17 00:41:02 <jcpham>	My children are poor are really would enjoy heat
Feb 17 00:41:14 <jcpham>	It's nearly freezing outside...
Feb 17 00:41:25 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, i has my own children, and i do donate to kids here in thailand
Feb 17 00:41:40 <jcpham>	Isee
Feb 17 00:41:45 <Chaang-Noi>	about 5 miles from here there is an orphange for kids with aids,
Feb 17 00:41:51 <jcpham>	You are a cold hearted bastard
Feb 17 00:42:12 <jcpham>	I steal power from the local orphanage
Feb 17 00:42:26 <jcpham>	For nvidia gpu miners
Feb 17 00:42:59 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, did a big christmas thing for the last two years, two years ago took donations from the forum in the form of btc. sadly i converted that to fiat for them. btc was like $3 back then
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Feb 17 00:46:56 <usagi>	so goat do you know anything about wood shop
Feb 17 00:48:27 <usagi>	I'm trying to decide between a couple of different saws and was looking for advice
Feb 17 00:49:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i have no idea about that sort of stuff sorry
Feb 17 00:49:43 <Chaang-Noi>	my wife is more into that kinda stuff than i...
Feb 17 00:49:59 <Chaang-Noi>	and she is not at all into that sorta stuff :)
Feb 17 00:50:31 <Chaang-Noi>	og man, this forum is so fail
Feb 17 00:51:11 <usagi>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DF-ICyXWIo <-- "Available in all German and Swiss pharmacies.." "clinicly tested in urologic hospitals..."
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Feb 17 01:15:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1322 @ 0.00064739 = 0.8558 BTC [+]
Feb 17 01:15:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3411 @ 0.0006474 = 2.2083 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 01:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064706 = 2.7959 BTC [-]
Feb 17 01:34:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15427 @ 0.0006474 = 9.9874 BTC [+]
Feb 17 01:34:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7311 @ 0.00064908 = 4.7454 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 01:52:43 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... bitcoin just got mentioned on coast to coast am
Feb 17 01:52:57 <mircea_popescu>	courtesy of marta mcculler >D
Feb 17 02:03:34 <Chaang-Noi>	cool
Feb 17 02:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00064718 = 3.9154 BTC [-]
Feb 17 02:17:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21389 @ 0.00064908 = 13.8832 BTC [+]
Feb 17 02:17:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00065406 = 11.2498 BTC [+]
Feb 17 02:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00065691 = 3.2517 BTC [+]
Feb 17 02:17:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 411 @ 0.00066206 = 0.2721 BTC [+]
Feb 17 02:19:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00068 = 0.068 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 02:20:38 <Namworld>	mircea_popescu
Feb 17 02:21:29 <Namworld>	just to say that BitVPS shares still appear on STATS, somehow. I guess that was not removed yet.
Feb 17 02:23:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 647 @ 0.00064237 = 0.4156 BTC [-]
Feb 17 02:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064231 = 2.7754 BTC [-]
Feb 17 02:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6732 @ 0.0006423 = 4.324 BTC [-]
Feb 17 02:27:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6040 @ 0.0063 = 38.052 BTC [+]
Feb 17 02:27:56 <Namworld>	I'll need more S.DICE soon at this rate...
Feb 17 02:32:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.00999 = 0.04 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 02:34:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 563 @ 0.01 = 5.63 BTC [+]
Feb 17 02:41:22 <Namworld>	Someone's been buying a lot of my stuff it seems.
Feb 17 02:41:40 <Namworld>	and bitcointalk seems like it's perpetually having problems loading this past week.
Feb 17 02:41:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6000 @ 0.0064 = 38.4 BTC [+]
Feb 17 02:41:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3000 @ 0.00649 = 19.47 BTC [+]
Feb 17 02:42:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00687 BTC [+]
Feb 17 02:44:10 <Namworld>	At last some GSDPT movement
Feb 17 02:46:00 <ThickAsThieves>	that puts sdice pretty evenly priced on all exchanges now
Feb 17 02:46:06 <ThickAsThieves>	other than havelock
Feb 17 02:46:14 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 17 02:46:16 <Namworld>	indeed
Feb 17 02:51:46 <ThickAsThieves>	Do you know if Deprived hangs out in here?
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Feb 17 02:55:28 <Namworld>	I think he is around here sometimes indeed
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Feb 17 02:56:44 <ThickAsThieves>	thanks
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Feb 17 03:03:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065058 = 2.8112 BTC [+]
Feb 17 03:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13229 @ 0.00065091 = 8.6109 BTC [+]
Feb 17 03:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4271 @ 0.00065091 = 2.78 BTC [+]
Feb 17 03:19:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.00065199 = 2.5049 BTC [+]
Feb 17 03:19:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3939 @ 0.00065446 = 2.5779 BTC [+]
Feb 17 03:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6048 @ 0.00065886 = 3.9848 BTC [+]
Feb 17 03:23:46 <jurov>	!ticker btctc bitvps
Feb 17 03:23:47 <assbot>	[BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: 0.00449 / 0.0045 / 0.00449 (510 shares, 2.3 BTC),  7D: 0.00449 / 0.0 / 0.0045 (610 shares, 2.7 BTC), 30D: 0.00449 / 0.0 / 0.0045 (610 shares, 2.7 BTC)
Feb 17 03:23:58 <jurov>	wow
Feb 17 03:27:52 <Namworld>	yeah, I'm surprised too
Feb 17 03:28:11 <Namworld>	A bit out of whack, especially since we're not turning a profit at all, at least right now.
Feb 17 03:28:38 <Namworld>	We should soon have another owned server. That should slash ~600 USD a month in rent fees.
Feb 17 03:29:19 <Namworld>	But with BTC rising much faster than our USD profits...
Feb 17 03:29:42 <Namworld>	Our price are adjusted based on rate after all. More USD/BTC, less BTC we get.
Feb 17 03:35:52 <Schadenfreude>	What is bitvps exactly?
Feb 17 03:36:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064584 = 2.7907 BTC [-]
Feb 17 03:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9679 @ 0.00064555 = 6.2483 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 03:41:48 <Namworld>	It's BitVPS
Feb 17 03:42:08 <Namworld>	the most reknown server provider in Bitcoins
Feb 17 03:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064568 = 2.79 BTC [+]
Feb 17 03:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7921 @ 0.00064555 = 5.1134 BTC [-]
Feb 17 03:42:42 <Namworld>	We're hosting slush's pool and clarkmoody.com among other notorious bitcoin websites.
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Feb 17 04:02:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.331 = 0.662 BTC [-]
Feb 17 04:03:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.33 = 0.99 BTC [-]
Feb 17 04:03:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
Feb 17 04:03:38 <usagi>	You can count on me as a customer Namworld, but I have no idea when I need to pay for service next
Feb 17 04:03:40 <usagi>	Probably in a couple of months
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Feb 17 04:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064368 = 6.0506 BTC [-]
Feb 17 04:07:09 <Namworld>	Sounds good. Thanks.
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Feb 17 04:13:46 <dub>	http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/donors-trust-climate-denial
Feb 17 04:14:05 <dub>	they should use bitcoins to hide the money!
Feb 17 04:18:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00064399 = 8.0499 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 04:32:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00655 = 6.55 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 04:59:38 <thestringpuller>	mpoe is going out of style
Feb 17 04:59:39 <thestringpuller>	lol
Feb 17 04:59:42 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 17 04:59:42 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 7 hours, 49 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 17 05:03:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00064368 = 2.5425 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 05:07:19 <Namworld>	How so?
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Feb 17 05:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064399 = 3.22 BTC [+]
Feb 17 05:13:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 155 @ 0.00068 = 0.1054 BTC [-]
Feb 17 05:22:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.019 BTC [-]
Feb 17 05:33:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00064399 = 0.5474 BTC [+]
Feb 17 05:33:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14658 @ 0.00064462 = 9.4488 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 05:43:37 <jurov>	thestringpuller, just normal movement..and time to buy moar :)
Feb 17 05:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00065826 = 13.3956 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 06:19:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08899 BTC [+]
Feb 17 06:20:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.089 BTC [+]
Feb 17 06:23:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00065826 = 4.3116 BTC [+]
Feb 17 06:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12425 @ 0.0006583 = 8.1794 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 06:43:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.019 = 0.114 BTC [-]
Feb 17 06:43:14 <Chaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144574.0  if anyone wants has buy 2000 asicminer shares
Feb 17 06:44:24 <Chaang-Noi>	Namworld was BitVPS the place with RG? Or what was he involved in?
Feb 17 06:47:44 <Namworld>	yeah... He managed BitVPS
Feb 17 06:47:58 <Chaang-Noi>	but he left?
Feb 17 06:48:38 <Namworld>	Yeah
Feb 17 06:48:55 <zerokwel>	yea I was looking at that chaang-noi... undecided if I am going to bid yet
Feb 17 06:49:03 <Namworld>	Initially he was just neglecting BitVPS. Then in December he abruptly left.
Feb 17 06:49:12 <Chaang-Noi>	odd :/
Feb 17 06:49:22 <Chaang-Noi>	what is with brendio and the pass though?
Feb 17 06:49:43 <Namworld>	BitVPS was making zero money and he found a manager position at another hosting co that was very well paid.
Feb 17 06:49:57 <Chaang-Noi>	zerokwel yeah i know, it might pay out well over 1 btc, then again might not im only selling 2/5ths of what i have
Feb 17 06:49:59 <Namworld>	and he worked 60+ hours week
Feb 17 06:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 8 @ 0.07595 = 0.6076 BTC [+]
Feb 17 06:50:10 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Feb 17 06:50:14 <Chaang-Noi>	hat about brendio?
Feb 17 06:50:18 <Namworld>	He wasn't able to give time to BitVPS at all
Feb 17 06:50:20 <zerokwel>	well they are mining now so
Feb 17 06:50:22 <Namworld>	Brendio?
Feb 17 06:50:36 <Chaang-Noi>	he had a BitCPS pass though and ran with the shares right?
Feb 17 06:50:48 <Namworld>	No idea. He never answers his passthrough holders yet claimed his shares.
Feb 17 06:50:56 <Chaang-Noi>	:(
Feb 17 06:50:58 <Namworld>	They're still idling in his account now...
Feb 17 06:51:01 <zerokwel>	2,112.57 GH/s  is what they are mining at.
Feb 17 06:51:20 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah zerokewl it is awesome, i made 1 good investment lol
Feb 17 06:51:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2027 @ 0.00065824 = 1.3343 BTC [-]
Feb 17 06:51:23 <Namworld>	They have more... much more planeed
Feb 17 06:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 665 @ 0.00065252 = 0.4339 BTC [-]
Feb 17 06:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065251 = 2.8195 BTC [-]
Feb 17 06:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 987 @ 0.0006525 = 0.644 BTC [-]
Feb 17 06:52:02 <zerokwel>	lol I think we all need a few of them after past proformance
Feb 17 06:52:15 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Feb 17 06:53:19 <zerokwel>	I was lucky with other suff.. glbse I had for the most part sold off only had a few of ya passthough left and pirate I was about even still lost a few k in profit tho
Feb 17 06:53:48 <zerokwel>	so I atleast broke even  :)
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Feb 17 06:54:21 <Chaang-Noi>	lucky!
Feb 17 06:55:43 <Namworld>	Well I'm off
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Feb 17 06:56:06 <Chaang-Noi>	peace
Feb 17 06:57:21 <Anduck>	[13:50:56] <zerokwel> 2,112.57 GH/s  is what they are mining at.
Feb 17 06:57:22 <Anduck>	who
Feb 17 06:57:28 <Anduck>	asicminer?
Feb 17 06:57:29 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer
Feb 17 06:57:31 <Anduck>	cool
Feb 17 06:57:35 <Anduck>	i got a few asicminer shares
Feb 17 06:57:41 <Anduck>	where's confirm to that they are indeed mining=
Feb 17 06:57:42 <Anduck>	?
Feb 17 06:57:53 <zerokwel>	in there post
Feb 17 06:57:55 <Chaang-Noi>	they are on a pool
Feb 17 06:58:02 <zerokwel>	they are on btcguild
Feb 17 06:58:04 <Chaang-Noi>	we can see them "stress testing"
Feb 17 06:58:20 <zerokwel>	they did try another pool and it could not keep up :)
Feb 17 06:59:04 <zerokwel>	yea looks like the age of the cpu is nearly over
Feb 17 06:59:08 <zerokwel>	emm gpu
Feb 17 06:59:39 <zerokwel>	first was the age of the cpu then the gpu then the fpga and now the asic
Feb 17 07:01:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.019 = 0.057 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 07:02:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.02095 = 0.2305 BTC [+]
Feb 17 07:03:09 <Anduck>	well
Feb 17 07:03:15 <Anduck>	they should use p2pool
Feb 17 07:03:18 <Anduck>	it should keep up
Feb 17 07:03:22 <Anduck>	OR they should solo mine
Feb 17 07:03:25 <Anduck>	should work too
Feb 17 07:03:27 <PsychoticBoy>	they are now also mining on Bitminter
Feb 17 07:03:39 <Anduck>	why they dont solo/p2pool ???!??!?
Feb 17 07:03:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 55 @ 0.02096 = 1.1528 BTC [+]
Feb 17 07:04:03 <PsychoticBoy>	probably faulty mining hardware
Feb 17 07:04:07 <pigeons>	why would you think p2pool could keep up?? it generally has more latency than centralized pools
Feb 17 07:04:29 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i dont think p2p is good,
Feb 17 07:04:41 <PsychoticBoy>	https://bitminter.com/livestats/big
Feb 17 07:06:20 <zerokwel>	meh it's there kit they can mine wherevery they want
Feb 17 07:06:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.02096 = 0.0419 BTC [+]
Feb 17 07:07:04 <PsychoticBoy>	poolhopping asics lol (too bad they only mine PPLNS pools)
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Feb 17 07:15:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00686 = 0.0343 BTC [-]
Feb 17 07:15:58 <Chaang-Noi>	should be up to the board :)
Feb 17 07:18:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065493 = 2.83 BTC [+]
Feb 17 07:18:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10234 @ 0.00065492 = 6.7025 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 07:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065494 = 2.83 BTC [+]
Feb 17 07:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24729 @ 0.00065492 = 16.1955 BTC [-]
Feb 17 07:22:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.331 = 0.662 BTC [+]
Feb 17 07:22:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
Feb 17 07:23:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 07:26:36 <Chaang-Noi>	free fall :)
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Feb 17 07:35:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065797 = 2.8431 BTC [+]
Feb 17 07:35:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065815 = 2.8439 BTC [+]
Feb 17 07:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22708 @ 0.0006583 = 14.9487 BTC [+]
Feb 17 07:36:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00623 = 0.0125 BTC [-]
Feb 17 07:36:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.0044 = 0.0132 BTC [-]
Feb 17 07:38:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065499 = 2.8302 BTC [-]
Feb 17 07:38:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19294 @ 0.00065492 = 12.636 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 08:25:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08899 BTC [-]
Feb 17 08:32:40 <pigeons>	so order depth is meaningless for btct.co
Feb 17 08:33:03 <pigeons>	it can be lots of unfunded fakes
Feb 17 08:33:19 <Namworld_afk>	All orders have enough funds
Feb 17 08:33:39 <Namworld_afk>	Just executing one might auto-cancel others on other securities
Feb 17 08:34:00 <pigeons>	ok i was extrapolating from litecoinglobal
Feb 17 08:34:08 <Namworld_afk>	Ask for ask side, it's always 100% funded
Feb 17 08:34:19 <Namworld_afk>	Should be the same for litecoinglobal
Feb 17 08:34:23 <pigeons>	no
Feb 17 08:34:33 <Namworld_afk>	How so?
Feb 17 08:34:41 <pigeons>	i can make bids up to my balance for each security
Feb 17 08:35:51 <pigeons>	so my funds are multiplied so instead of 1x real funds it looks like 20x of demand but its fake
Feb 17 08:36:00 <Namworld_afk>	yes, same for BTCT.co
Feb 17 08:36:17 <Namworld_afk>	Didn't we already have this discussion?
Feb 17 08:36:21 <pigeons>	right so when you look at order depth, its not accurate
Feb 17 08:36:28 <Namworld_afk>	I think I had the same discussion with someone
Feb 17 08:36:57 <Namworld_afk>	It's accurate at the moment you look at the security and if you execute an order on it.
Feb 17 08:37:08 <pigeons>	it is never accurate
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Feb 17 08:38:04 <pigeons>	if it says 500 BTC worth of orders, and its really 5 x 100 for the same guy and only the first 100 fills, that is not accurate information
Feb 17 08:38:23 <Namworld_afk>	The 500 BTC will fill
Feb 17 08:38:29 <pigeons>	no
Feb 17 08:38:34 <pigeons>	i have 100 btc
Feb 17 08:38:44 <Namworld_afk>	Yes, you need 500 BTC to make 500 BTC bids on a single asset
Feb 17 08:38:52 <pigeons>	let me try
Feb 17 08:38:59 <Namworld_afk>	You can make up to your total ONCE per asset
Feb 17 08:39:11 <Namworld_afk>	Not make each order up to your total
Feb 17 08:39:11 <pigeons>	oh i see
Feb 17 08:39:26 <pigeons>	its still bullshit
Feb 17 08:39:46 <Namworld_afk>	It's only innacurate if you're calculating multiple sales on multiple assets. Then executing one might cancel some on others.
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Feb 17 08:40:13 <pigeons>	why accept "only innacurate in certain situations" when always accurate is possible?
Feb 17 08:40:39 <pigeons>	what is the benefit of the innacuracy except deception?
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Feb 17 08:41:33 <Namworld_afk>	Say you have 1 BTC and want assets A, C and Y. You don't have enough to bid on all of them at once, and don't know which one will have a sale on first to put your bid there.
Feb 17 08:41:48 <Namworld_afk>	Well bid 1 BTC on each, and if one is filled, the others get canceled.
Feb 17 08:41:58 <Namworld_afk>	It's actually very practical.
Feb 17 08:42:01 <pigeons>	right that's bullshit
Feb 17 08:42:29 <Namworld_afk>	I don't really see the need for the whole market to be 100%.
Feb 17 08:42:48 <pigeons>	why cloud the picture intentionally?
Feb 17 08:43:05 <Namworld_afk>	What picture?
Feb 17 08:43:07 <pigeons>	other than to allow someone to take advantage of an artificial construct
Feb 17 08:43:20 <pigeons>	the picture of total demand for stocks
Feb 17 08:44:01 <Namworld_afk>	Having the current orders on the asset you're viewing being all 100% fillable is enough when selling. It gives you an accurate view of how much demand there is at what price for that asset.
Feb 17 08:44:31 <Namworld_afk>	That someone has 1 BTC and would be willing to spend it on A, C or Y, it's still 1 BTC demand for each. First one to fill it gets the BTC.
Feb 17 08:45:01 <Namworld_afk>	Only once one trade is executed, the demand disappear for the other two.
Feb 17 08:45:25 <pigeons>	its not accurate, he doesnt have the funds to buy all 3, he only genuinely intends to buy one because that's all he can afford
Feb 17 08:45:33 <pigeons>	Ukto: back me up on this
Feb 17 08:45:37 <kakobrekla>	;;ticke
Feb 17 08:45:38 <gribble>	Error: "ticke" is not a valid command.
Feb 17 08:45:38 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 17 08:45:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.95771, Best ask: 26.95774, Bid-ask spread: 0.00003, Last trade: 26.95771, 24 hour volume: 36727.10423161, 24 hour low: 26.08801, 24 hour high: 27.40000, 24 hour vwap: 26.83700
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Feb 17 08:47:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.08899 = 0.178 BTC [-]
Feb 17 08:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006565 = 2.8367 BTC [+]
Feb 17 08:47:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065669 = 2.8376 BTC [+]
Feb 17 08:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18207 @ 0.0006567 = 11.9565 BTC [+]
Feb 17 08:47:26 <pigeons>	OK, it is convienient for the buyer. The price of that convienence is the total orderbook reflects an inaccurate picture of total demand for assets
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Feb 17 08:48:03 <pigeons>	The result is more investor confidence, but it is artifical hence dangerous
Feb 17 08:48:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08899 BTC [-]
Feb 17 08:49:10 <Namworld_afk>	But who looks at the global demand? Usually the seller is only interested by the asset he's currently viewing and all bids can be filled. And once another go on another asset to sell, the bids are already gone, so he can also see the current, accurate demand.
Feb 17 08:50:09 <pigeons>	not just global demand. 1/20 of those orders would not exist, because the bidder wouldn't have the funds to back them, because he doesn't, hence he has to make price/preference/utility decisions with his money
Feb 17 08:51:15 <EskimoBob>	artificial? dangerous? What did I miss?
Feb 17 08:51:26 <Namworld_afk>	Demand is demand, that the buyer cannot get everything does not make it any less valid demand for each asset. He's just signaling his interest to 3 markets with his single BTC.
Feb 17 08:52:07 <Namworld_afk>	It still represent will to buy the asset at that price. It's enough to valuate how much the public values the asset.
Feb 17 08:52:41 <pigeons>	no he is not signaling genuine interest because if he had to reflect the reality that his money can only buy one of the 20 stocks it is bidding on, he might spread it out amoung stocks, making less orders for each stock, so the volume demanded is innaccurate
Feb 17 08:52:52 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons in the real world when people buy on borrowed money it distorts the true demand as well.
Feb 17 08:53:16 <pigeons>	Chaang-Noi: perhaps but i am discussing this particular implementation
Feb 17 08:53:29 <EskimoBob>	pigeons is correct. This is not a true "demand", it's more like give me something for that coin I have
Feb 17 08:53:33 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons what that is doing is increasing real trade by letting sellers have more options
Feb 17 08:53:46 <pigeons>	yes it increases trade
Feb 17 08:54:07 <Chaang-Noi>	it is not perfect but i like it
Feb 17 08:54:12 <pigeons>	by clouding the true picture of demand and increasing confidence
Feb 17 08:54:16 <Chaang-Noi>	pros are better than cons
Feb 17 08:54:34 <ThickAsThieves>	I like it so far too
Feb 17 08:54:44 <pigeons>	not if you need to decide if ther eis enough depth to sell into
Feb 17 08:54:47 <ThickAsThieves>	but i do see pigeons point vert clearly
Feb 17 08:54:50 <Namworld_afk>	If he puts the bid at that price, it does signal genuine interest to buy it at that price. Because his bid is at that price, he's willing to pay that price when that orders execute.
Feb 17 08:54:56 <ThickAsThieves>	very*
Feb 17 08:55:03 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 17 08:55:04 <Chaang-Noi>	its fine if you are only selling one asset at a time
Feb 17 08:55:05 <Namworld_afk>	and yes, you know if there's enough dept to sell into.
Feb 17 08:55:08 <EskimoBob>	this stuff work on markets where turnovers are HUGE and those tiny trades make no difference.
Feb 17 08:55:08 <kakobrekla>	bulls look tierd.
Feb 17 08:55:23 <Namworld_afk>	yes kakobrekla, I've noticed
Feb 17 08:55:31 <kakobrekla>	let give em a red bull
Feb 17 08:55:34 <ThickAsThieves>	It allows players to act as catch-alls
Feb 17 08:55:34 <Chaang-Noi>	are you a bear kako?
Feb 17 08:55:36 <kakobrekla>	or some souch
Feb 17 08:55:42 <pigeons>	there isn't enough depth to sell into because in reality there are other stocks being sold it is not an isolated system
Feb 17 08:55:45 <ThickAsThieves>	when they dont actually have that kind of coin
Feb 17 08:55:48 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi its what my gf calls me!
Feb 17 08:56:09 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Feb 17 08:56:38 <kakobrekla>	but no, im no bear
Feb 17 08:56:45 <kakobrekla>	not now
Feb 17 08:56:47 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 17 08:56:59 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: what btc or ltc exchange allows now to enter  multiple bids wile you have no coin to cover them all ?
Feb 17 08:57:20 <Namworld_afk>	pigeons: I see the bids offer more like an indication of what buyers are willing to pay and how much I can immediately sell at that price than any indication of just how much purchasing power and will there is on the market total.
Feb 17 08:58:00 <Namworld_afk>	As long as I know how the system is upfront and can adjust to that, I don't see the problem to that.
Feb 17 08:58:09 <pigeons>	why doesn't mtgox let me have a bid to buy yen, pounds, dollars, and euros with the same BTC. i intend to buy each of them if it hits my price?
Feb 17 08:58:14 <Chaang-Noi>	it also lets people keep their btc ub their wallet for low ball bids
Feb 17 08:58:17 <EskimoBob>	Namworld_afk: look at it like this: someone enters 5 bid orders to share A at 5 different prices but has money only for one trade
Feb 17 08:58:26 <kakobrekla>	pigeons usd will be first
Feb 17 08:58:28 <EskimoBob>	your bid side is BS :)
Feb 17 08:58:35 <Namworld_afk>	EskimoBob: you can't do that
Feb 17 08:58:36 <kakobrekla>	since they convert everything back to usd
Feb 17 08:58:38 <EskimoBob>	it evaporates after first trade
Feb 17 08:58:49 <Namworld_afk>	You can only bid up to your total per asset, not per order.
Feb 17 08:58:53 <kakobrekla>	and they take a fee.
Feb 17 08:59:07 <EskimoBob>	Namworld_afk: it was just a illustration to the situation
Feb 17 08:59:51 <ThickAsThieves>	the problem is, no two people can be looking at different at the same time, and see reality
Feb 17 08:59:59 <ThickAsThieves>	different assets*
Feb 17 09:00:10 <EskimoBob>	or asses :)
Feb 17 09:00:59 <Namworld_afk>	They actually see reality... but it's a reality if you're not the first to take the bid, someone else with another asset might sell to the buyer first.
Feb 17 09:01:00 <ThickAsThieves>	so it would create artificial behavior
Feb 17 09:01:48 <EskimoBob>	Namworld_afk: now take my "Illustration" and use 5 different securities and 5 different bids and how few trades can evaporate the bid's.
Feb 17 09:01:57 <ThickAsThieves>	the setup creates value that doesn't exist
Feb 17 09:02:03 <EskimoBob>	This stuff is really bad idea on markets as tiny as BTC exchanges
Feb 17 09:02:16 <pigeons>	no, you really wouldn't put your fake bid on USAGI.SILVER because you really want to back your bid on S.DICE
Feb 17 09:02:17 <EskimoBob>	BTC sec exchanges
Feb 17 09:02:29 <Namworld_afk>	It doesn't create value. =/
Feb 17 09:02:41 <ThickAsThieves>	perceived value
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Feb 17 09:02:56 <pigeons>	no it doesnt create value, it creates the illusion of enough demand so sustain a false value
Feb 17 09:03:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i think, although I have enjoyed using the feature, pigeons is right on this
Feb 17 09:03:31 <Namworld_afk>	Well if you know how the system is, just adjust to it as I've said. Consider the bids as an indication of up to how much people are willing to buy. Not how much they can buy as a whole.
Feb 17 09:03:34 <EskimoBob>	even margins are stupid idea for something as unstable and illiquid as btc/ltc/etc exchanges  we have now
Feb 17 09:04:03 <ThickAsThieves>	nam, the problem is, even tho WE know about this, not everyone realizes it
Feb 17 09:04:10 <ThickAsThieves>	and it distorts the market
Feb 17 09:04:40 <Namworld_afk>	eh... if someone doesn't realize it, why are they trading without informing themselves?
Feb 17 09:04:47 <Namworld_afk>	They shouldn't be.
Feb 17 09:04:52 <pigeons>	why say, "oh we know its fake it helps us get higher prices" when its just as easy to say, "this is not artifically distorted"
Feb 17 09:04:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i like having more info than the next guy, sure
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Feb 17 09:05:32 <ThickAsThieves>	but it's fale security
Feb 17 09:05:34 <ThickAsThieves>	false
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Feb 17 09:05:49 <ThickAsThieves>	like what if there was a bitcoin crash and everyone wanted to sell assets
Feb 17 09:06:01 <ThickAsThieves>	value would plummet instantly
Feb 17 09:06:16 <pigeons>	im not selling now because i think look at all that demand if i needed to
Feb 17 09:06:17 <ThickAsThieves>	faster than people could assess
Feb 17 09:07:31 <ThickAsThieves>	in general, doesn't this setup inflate the bid prices?
Feb 17 09:08:22 <EskimoBob>	yes, and this is why it's also a problem
Feb 17 09:08:32 <Namworld_afk>	Well yes, it makes people bid higher. So it gets people to pay closer to the max they would pay instead of leaving cheap bids.
Feb 17 09:08:39 <EskimoBob>	inflated "demand" without any cover to actually execute the trade
Feb 17 09:08:43 <ThickAsThieves>	well it goes both ways
Feb 17 09:08:59 <EskimoBob>	Namworld_afk: are you serious?
Feb 17 09:09:09 <pigeons>	yes, because i am comfortable paying an inflated price or spending an inflated amount total on the asset because it looks like certain demand is ther ewhen in reality that demand is only ther ein the imaginary world where 2 dice passtrhoughs and 17 other assets dont exist and take preference on my funds
Feb 17 09:09:47 <Namworld_afk>	Yes, I acknowledge it gets people to bid higher. More competition on the bid price.
Feb 17 09:10:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont see how that's good
Feb 17 09:10:11 <pigeons>	ok so prices are higher than they should be
Feb 17 09:10:17 <pigeons>	you overcharge
Feb 17 09:10:20 <EskimoBob>	without real cover
Feb 17 09:10:23 <Namworld_afk>	You're not supposed to buy based on what others want to pay for it!? O.o
Feb 17 09:10:27 <pigeons>	by folling people into thinking demand is there
Feb 17 09:10:38 <EskimoBob>	all you do is add volatility
Feb 17 09:10:47 <ThickAsThieves>	you're not supposed to PAY what others can't actually afford for it
Feb 17 09:10:51 <pigeons>	everything is worh what others want to pay for it
Feb 17 09:11:13 <EskimoBob>	;;btc
Feb 17 09:11:13 <gribble>	Error: "btc" is not a valid command.
Feb 17 09:11:24 <Namworld_afk>	Thick, they technically can afford it. Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to put the bid in the first place.
Feb 17 09:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006565 = 2.8367 BTC [-]
Feb 17 09:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065656 = 2.837 BTC [+]
Feb 17 09:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 258 @ 0.0006567 = 0.1694 BTC [+]
Feb 17 09:11:42 <ThickAsThieves>	they ca't afford over all assets though
Feb 17 09:11:49 <Namworld_afk>	Not for assets... unless you're trading a commodity
Feb 17 09:12:07 <Namworld_afk>	The asset is NOT worth what people want to pay for it.
Feb 17 09:12:15 <pigeons>	they can pretend to afford it in a distored picture, they really have to choose to only buy what they can pay for, they can only pay for enough bids for 1 asset, not each asset on the exchange
Feb 17 09:12:28 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 17 09:12:29 <gribble>	1 BTC = 26.75000 U.S. dollars = 19.995515 Euros
Feb 17 09:12:34 <pigeons>	< Namworld_afk> The asset is NOT worth what people want to pay for it. << i know usagi agrees with that
Feb 17 09:12:46 <EskimoBob>	:)
Feb 17 09:13:09 <Namworld_afk>	The asset is worth what the underlying value is. You sell when price is higher than the value you expect it's worth and buy when it's under.
Feb 17 09:13:13 <EskimoBob>	The Book of Bitcoin Zen ?
Feb 17 09:13:25 <ThickAsThieves>	think of it this way, with 100BTC, I could have like 1500BTC+ of influence on that market
Feb 17 09:13:36 <pigeons>	exactly
Feb 17 09:14:03 <pigeons>	you don't have 1500BTC, neither do the other exchange users the effect is multiplied by
Feb 17 09:14:26 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 17 09:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006423 / 0.00066218 / 0.00068894 (1393205 shares, 922.56 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00064645 / 0.00068894 (12565936 shares, 8,123.37 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.0006621 / 0.0007 (74279384 shares, 49,180.41 BTC)
Feb 17 09:14:55 <EskimoBob>	HOLY FUCK! BTC diff is huge
Feb 17 09:15:05 <Namworld_afk>	But all this is a complete non-issue if you don't trade in the same direction as the herd for speculating or if you don't trade blindly based on what others offer for it...
Feb 17 09:15:09 <ThickAsThieves>	say you have 50 people doing that, now you have 5000BTC causing 250000BTC of influence
Feb 17 09:15:13 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Feb 17 09:15:16 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221686 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 73 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 8 hours, 56 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3645950.97113 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.31096
Feb 17 09:15:18 <ThickAsThieves>	it gets ridic fast
Feb 17 09:15:26 <kakobrekla>	asic can be felt now :)
Feb 17 09:15:38 <kakobrekla>	ouch.
Feb 17 09:16:09 <pigeons>	;;estimate
Feb 17 09:16:11 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 3647729.07667 based on data since last change | 4218553.50644 based on data for last three days
Feb 17 09:16:26 <EskimoBob>	are Avalon asic's only ones out there?
Feb 17 09:16:42 <pigeons>	asicminers are on btcguild
Feb 17 09:17:00 <Namworld_afk>	ASICMINERs are going strong...
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Feb 17 09:17:33 <Namworld_afk>	Maybe I'll start feeling bad about selling my shares soon if the other manufacturers don't enter the game fast.
Feb 17 09:17:50 <Bugpowder>	no
Feb 17 09:17:57 <Bugpowder>	ASICMINER is at 2.2TH
Feb 17 09:18:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno, i think the shares seem to have gotten way too high
Feb 17 09:18:09 <Bugpowder>	https://www.btcguild.com//halloffame.php
Feb 17 09:18:34 <Bugpowder>	All these kids are asking me for coins on localbitcoins.com
Feb 17 09:18:42 <Bugpowder>	I think its time to take some profits
Feb 17 09:19:01 <kakobrekla>	>Taaki, McCarthy, Strateman, a dozen or so names could be tacked on. When I say parade I mean parade,
Feb 17 09:19:01 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 17 09:19:24 <kakobrekla>	guess who ?
Feb 17 09:19:25 <pigeons>	just because asicminers are real doesn't mean there is no risk between you and actually getting paid your dividends
Feb 17 09:19:50 <pigeons>	mpoe-pr?
Feb 17 09:19:52 <Namworld_afk>	eheh, not regretting going short bugpowder?
Feb 17 09:19:54 <kakobrekla>	bingo.
Feb 17 09:20:07 <Namworld_afk>	I think we might not drop before the end of the month however.
Feb 17 09:20:13 <Namworld_afk>	sadly
Feb 17 09:20:51 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone happen to have any "libert dollars" the coins taht guy got jailed for?
Feb 17 09:21:31 <Bugpowder>	regretting
Feb 17 09:21:37 <Bugpowder>	why do you think I haven't been on
Feb 17 09:21:41 <Bugpowder>	too depressed
Feb 17 09:21:48 <kakobrekla>	uh
Feb 17 09:21:49 <Bugpowder>	exited most of the position
Feb 17 09:21:57 <kakobrekla>	dont take it so hard on yourself
Feb 17 09:22:02 <Bugpowder>	but If I had just not been looking at my computer
Feb 17 09:22:07 <Bugpowder>	my calls would be up even more
Feb 17 09:22:10 <Bugpowder>	fuck
Feb 17 09:22:20 <kakobrekla>	its always coulda woulda shoulda
Feb 17 09:22:27 <Bugpowder>	Namworld_afk: you are still in the puts
Feb 17 09:22:29 <Bugpowder>	I can tell
Feb 17 09:22:34 <Bugpowder>	from the volume
Feb 17 09:22:50 <Chaang-Noi>	bugpowder its all over 4chan and red edit and the like, the 25 to 15 year olds are loving btc
Feb 17 09:22:55 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 17 09:23:12 <Bugpowder>	and now Kim dot com is tweeting about MEGA taking BTC
Feb 17 09:23:13 <Chaang-Noi>	mega just took btc too
Feb 17 09:23:15 <Bugpowder>	sigh
Feb 17 09:23:15 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Feb 17 09:23:16 <Bugpowder>	yea
Feb 17 09:23:20 <Chaang-Noi>	im not selling :)
Feb 17 09:23:24 <kakobrekla>	thats is near irrelevant
Feb 17 09:23:35 <Bugpowder>	There will be a pullback
Feb 17 09:23:40 <Bugpowder>	at some point
Feb 17 09:23:43 <Chaang-Noi>	sure, has to be some time
Feb 17 09:23:43 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowder: did ASICMINER get listed or is it still OTC?
Feb 17 09:23:44 <Bugpowder>	hard to time though
Feb 17 09:23:47 <Chaang-Noi>	OTC
Feb 17 09:23:49 <Bugpowder>	OTC I think
Feb 17 09:24:03 <Chaang-Noi>	im selling 200 OTC on the forum in auctions if interested
Feb 17 09:24:10 <Chaang-Noi>	going rate there seems to be like .45
Feb 17 09:24:20 <Namworld_afk>	Yeah, well I decided to just let that sit there.
Feb 17 09:24:40 <Chaang-Noi>	2000*
Feb 17 09:24:41 <EskimoBob>	1 DMC = 1 ASIC :) Where is Diablo-D3 ?
Feb 17 09:24:56 <Namworld_afk>	11 DMC = 1 ASIC
Feb 17 09:25:02 <EskimoBob>	I can hand over the DMC crap for that and move on
Feb 17 09:25:12 <EskimoBob>	oh, now it's 11?
Feb 17 09:25:18 <kakobrekla>	wait a week its 111
Feb 17 09:25:20 <Namworld_afk>	It never was 1
Feb 17 09:25:54 <Namworld_afk>	There's 11k shares outstanding and 1k ASICMINER... why would he take 1 DMC for 1 ASIC? Makes no sense.
Feb 17 09:26:16 <Namworld_afk>	I would have long redeemed the whole 1k ASICMINERs if I could trade each for 1 DMC.
Feb 17 09:26:20 <EskimoBob>	Namworld_afk: yes, it was 11 . my bad
Feb 17 09:26:39 <EskimoBob>	Namworld_afk: you want DMC?
Feb 17 09:26:57 <Namworld_afk>	Maybe... I've been buying at 0.03
Feb 17 09:27:09 <EskimoBob>	WHY? O_O?
Feb 17 09:27:31 <Namworld_afk>	Because that makes 0.33 to get an ASICMINER?
Feb 17 09:27:42 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 17 09:27:54 <Namworld_afk>	Not sure I want to buy over that tho, too much trouble.
Feb 17 09:28:00 <EskimoBob>	yeah, if he gets the shares or has the shares and is not going to fuck up again
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Feb 17 09:30:23 <Namworld_afk>	I suppose
Feb 17 09:30:50 <Namworld_afk>	Sell them off on market into the bids then =P
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Feb 17 09:32:58 <Namworld_afk>	Ah, well it's late. I'm out.
Feb 17 09:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	nn
Feb 17 09:33:40 <pigeons>	ah i cant argue mircea_popescu against Namworld_afk in the btct.co order matching issue
Feb 17 09:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	eh ?
Feb 17 09:34:52 <pigeons>	why doesn't mpex allow asset issuers and the exchange to present a deliberately false picture of asset demand by allowing a user to bid up to his total balance for eash mpsic?
Feb 17 09:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136104976652.jpg pic related.
Feb 17 09:35:39 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons because mpex is built to be fast. when a new order comes in the trade engine does not have the time to check if its book is covered.
Feb 17 09:35:40 <pigeons>	instead of requiring full collateral to back each order
Feb 17 09:35:53 <pigeons>	oh so its only for speed?
Feb 17 09:36:13 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's not only for speed
Feb 17 09:36:18 <mircea_popescu>	but speed is a sufficient consideration :D
Feb 17 09:36:40 <pigeons>	are the non-speed issues sufficient consideration?
Feb 17 09:37:06 <EskimoBob>	sure. you need all the speed you can get, to trade that one stock
Feb 17 09:37:37 <EskimoBob>	lol
Feb 17 09:38:12 <mircea_popescu>	i am not at liberty to comment on that issue.
Feb 17 09:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	of course they are. the only reason irl books contain unpaid orders is because they are still binding, but irl has credit.
Feb 17 09:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	and people don't get to put things in the book that aren't credit-worthy and leverage-able over their eyes.
Feb 17 09:40:28 <ThickAsThieves>	would you say btctc/ltcglobal should remove the false bidding power? Or that it's no biggie?
Feb 17 09:41:18 <mircea_popescu>	it's also a race condition waiting to happen, which they'll discover just as soon as rthey're forced to implement multimachine systems
Feb 17 09:41:27 <mircea_popescu>	which is quite possibly "never", so why shouldn't they have their fun ?
Feb 17 09:41:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.71 = 1.42 BTC [-]
Feb 17 09:42:41 <pigeons>	in the case of orders backed by credit, those are acutally backed by credit, unbacked orders don't contribute less to distortion just because margin exist
Feb 17 09:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	yes, the confusion here is between "i feel i could afford a car" and "i can actually afford a car".
Feb 17 09:43:27 <mircea_popescu>	the latter can be the case even if you have no more than 3 dollars in your pocket.
Feb 17 09:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0006567 = 2.6268 BTC [+]
Feb 17 09:45:33 <pigeons>	i think intentionally profiting from a distored picture of demand and liquidity is unethical
Feb 17 09:46:01 <Ukto>	just sat back down
Feb 17 09:46:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.00068 = 0.0041 BTC [-]
Feb 17 09:46:12 <Ukto>	i have already stated my opinion on it, not going to rehash it
Feb 17 09:47:12 <pigeons>	i used to think that they should do what they like, even though you are right, but now i think all these little innacuracies add up and we shoulod draw the line sooner
Feb 17 09:47:28 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons that may be. it is also a self-limiting disease so.
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Feb 17 09:50:25 <EskimoBob>	what? Another zit of shit is starting to explode on mircea's face?
Feb 17 09:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	all orders flushed.
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Feb 17 09:52:02 <mircea_popescu>	and i just sent a 1338 byte tx. sooo close!
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Feb 17 09:54:04 <Bugpowder>	Sold a kid with braces 20BTC yesterday
Feb 17 09:54:13 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 17 09:54:22 <Bugpowder>	he was like...  I can't buy into the stock market yet
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Feb 17 09:54:28 <Bugpowder>	so I'll trade BTC
Feb 17 09:54:38 <kakobrekla>	how old?
Feb 17 09:54:45 <Bugpowder>	I bought me first coins a month and a half ago and I'm up $10 / coin
Feb 17 09:54:54 <Bugpowder>	prob 16-18
Feb 17 09:54:59 <Bugpowder>	he could drive
Feb 17 09:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	now do it with a girl.
Feb 17 09:55:14 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 17 09:55:16 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Feb 17 09:55:41 <Bugpowder>	coinbase I think is really making the US retail market explode
Feb 17 09:56:21 <Chaang-Noi>	kids are smart
Feb 17 09:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	coast to coast am got a question from a marti in romania yest
Feb 17 09:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	which made them mention bitcoin on teh airs.
Feb 17 09:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	they were like "o, i hear it's big in europe"
Feb 17 09:56:52 <mircea_popescu>	about 10 minutes after going "o, yurpeans are a lot more sensible about money and stuff"
Feb 17 09:57:09 <Chaang-Noi>	cool
Feb 17 09:57:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2335 @ 0.0006567 = 1.5334 BTC [+]
Feb 17 09:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22865 @ 0.0006583 = 15.052 BTC [+]
Feb 17 09:58:09 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 17 09:58:22 <Bugpowder>	is george noore still doing that?
Feb 17 09:58:29 <Bugpowder>	who is current host
Feb 17 09:58:48 <Bugpowder>	they must have loved the meteor
Feb 17 09:59:39 <mircea_popescu>	nah some guy wells
Feb 17 10:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065506 = 2.8305 BTC [-]
Feb 17 10:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19843 @ 0.00065492 = 12.9956 BTC [-]
Feb 17 10:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 336 @ 0.0006525 = 0.2192 BTC [-]
Feb 17 10:00:44 <Bugpowder>	Art bell was da best
Feb 17 10:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	i never followed it
Feb 17 10:01:44 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 17 10:01:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.43004, Best ask: 26.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06996, Last trade: 26.42003, 24 hour volume: 37853.90052231, 24 hour low: 26.08801, 24 hour high: 27.40000, 24 hour vwap: 26.82858
Feb 17 10:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons do you happen to have somewhere nearby the famous "with blood sweat and tears" email from our friend tom ?
Feb 17 10:05:49 <pigeons>	no
Feb 17 10:06:08 <pigeons>	tom williams neither
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Feb 17 10:07:09 <pigeons>	i listended to coast to coast years ago but when it was people calling in saying" oh my god i looked at my clock and it was 2:22, there are no coincidences" i had to give it up
Feb 17 10:07:44 <pigeons>	"like a few weeks later, i thought about it and looked at a different clock and it was 3:33
Feb 17 10:08:07 <pigeons>	what does it mea???
Feb 17 10:08:10 <pigeons>	mean
Feb 17 10:09:19 <pigeons>	thye regularly had whole shows where everyone would call in and tell about how that happens when they look at the clock too
Feb 17 10:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/whats-a-sperglord/ there we go.
Feb 17 10:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons supposedly there's ~4-5 mn listeners that got hit
Feb 17 10:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	prolly 1-5% of them had heard of bitcoin prevbiously
Feb 17 10:10:10 <Bicknellski>	Now this is a chat where it is at...
Feb 17 10:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	prolly 90% of them would fit like toes in a silk stocking on bitcointalk
Feb 17 10:10:24 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 17 10:10:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.45000, Best ask: 26.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 26.45000, 24 hour volume: 38095.04921954, 24 hour low: 26.08801, 24 hour high: 27.40000, 24 hour vwap: 26.82461
Feb 17 10:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	or at least those are my figures.
Feb 17 10:11:42 <Bicknellski>	This article is available for a fee. So sad...
Feb 17 10:11:45 <Bicknellski>	;)
Feb 17 10:12:05 <mircea_popescu>	o ? your name is new, how did you run out of credits ?
Feb 17 10:12:23 <Bicknellski>	never had any... that is how new I be
Feb 17 10:12:29 <Bicknellski>	thanks for the concern...
Feb 17 10:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	you get like 5 each week
Feb 17 10:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	possibly you're on a shared ip or something but hot damn.
Feb 17 10:13:23 <Bicknellski>	right over my head mircea_popescu
Feb 17 10:13:31 <Bicknellski>	have to slow it down for this nub
Feb 17 10:13:41 <Bicknellski>	5 each week where and how
Feb 17 10:13:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1410 @ 0.0006583 = 0.9282 BTC [+]
Feb 17 10:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065885 = 2.8469 BTC [+]
Feb 17 10:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2819 @ 0.00065886 = 1.8573 BTC [+]
Feb 17 10:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	trilema identifies users by ip. you not having credits means someone read 5+ articles this week from yoru very ip
Feb 17 10:14:21 <Bicknellski>	must be me.
Feb 17 10:14:24 <Bicknellski>	I read a few
Feb 17 10:14:46 <Bicknellski>	doubt anyone else in Indonesia reading your stuff at the moment.
Feb 17 10:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	ah ok.
Feb 17 10:15:41 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 17 10:15:46 <Bicknellski>	Nice feature
Feb 17 10:15:57 <Bicknellski>	hooked me already with your written work
Feb 17 10:15:59 <Bicknellski>	l)
Feb 17 10:16:30 <Bugpowder>	silghtly annoying that I can't have 2 ips linked to my credits though.
Feb 17 10:16:41 <Bugpowder>	gotta reestablish credentials when I take laptop to work
Feb 17 10:16:42 <Bugpowder>	and back
Feb 17 10:17:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 0.99 = 4.95 BTC [-]
Feb 17 10:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder if you get a pw you can have as many as you want
Feb 17 10:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	you can load the respective cookie in 500 systems.
Feb 17 10:18:26 <pigeons>	how many credits does EskimoBob have?
Feb 17 10:18:27 <Bugpowder>	ok I will try that
Feb 17 10:18:36 <Bicknellski>	Guessing I am going to have to do a lot of homework to make it worth my while to use MPEx... not really for the novice is it?
Feb 17 10:18:59 <mircea_popescu>	Bicknellski well look at it this way : are you interested in bitcoin to learn/widen horizons or to feed yourself ?
Feb 17 10:20:17 <Bicknellski>	Definitely... Im a Montessori teacher so we are by nature trained be just that widening horizons and feed our selves to fit in the environment we create for our students
Feb 17 10:20:53 <Bicknellski>	love to learn new stuff especially from people who have the right vision and clarity.
Feb 17 10:20:54 <mircea_popescu>	cool. so then : yes you'll have to do a ton of reading.
Feb 17 10:20:59 <Bicknellski>	love your perspective on things
Feb 17 10:21:02 <Bugpowder>	mpex is awesome
Feb 17 10:21:09 <Bugpowder>	it does have a learning curve
Feb 17 10:21:12 <Bicknellski>	figured as much blech
Feb 17 10:21:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder nu-uh! read the forums!
Feb 17 10:21:16 <Bicknellski>	nothing great is easy
Feb 17 10:21:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2404 @ 0.00065886 = 1.5839 BTC [+]
Feb 17 10:22:47 <Bicknellski>	which link above to the forums.
Feb 17 10:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Feb 17 10:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;google site:bitcointalk.org mpex sucks
Feb 17 10:23:08 <gribble>	So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right?: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.5;wap2>; [MPEx] CDO roll call for bond issuers: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76515.5;wap2>; Print Page - MPEx Accounts Spring Scrub, 2013: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=131061.0>
Feb 17 10:23:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.1 BTC [+]
Feb 17 10:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	eh um. i give.
Feb 17 10:23:29 <Bicknellski>	Merci
Feb 17 10:23:29 <pigeons>	;;google mpex is teh sux
Feb 17 10:23:30 <gribble>	Strobist: What China Doesn't Understand: <http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/04/what-china-doesnt-understand.html>; Mogliamante pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mogliamante/>; The greatest smartphone app… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-greatest-smartphone-app/>
Feb 17 10:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	how the hell does my review of mogliamante come into that
Feb 17 10:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	you know sometimes i suspect google algo is broken.
Feb 17 10:24:34 <Bicknellski>	if i was cool I'd set my name to Bicknellski away getting eduficated.
Feb 17 10:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	o, is Bicknellski  your irl pw:rn ?
Feb 17 10:25:39 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone here like beer?
Feb 17 10:25:51 <Bicknellski>	yea what you said... whoosh right over the nubs head... ya IPA please
Feb 17 10:25:56 <Bicknellski>	or a blue
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Feb 17 10:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://cheezburger.com/4669066240
Feb 17 10:26:35 <Bugpowder>	Stone IPA
Feb 17 10:26:44 <Bugpowder>	or Ruination
Feb 17 10:26:57 <Bugpowder>	Weihenstephaner Korbinian
Feb 17 10:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	pw:rn aka powerword:real name. it uses some tabletop game reference to slightly chuckle at how concerned people are with "their real name"
Feb 17 10:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	which is quite magical thinking at its core
Feb 17 10:27:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i love Ruination
Feb 17 10:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	what is ruination ?
Feb 17 10:27:54 <ThickAsThieves>	very hoppy IPA
Feb 17 10:27:58 <ThickAsThieves>	from Stone
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Feb 17 10:28:41 <mircea_popescu>	oh teh beerz
Feb 17 10:30:03 <Bicknellski>	Or... Maudite
Feb 17 10:30:13 <Bicknellski>	got one of those at the back of the cooler
Feb 17 10:30:29 <Bugpowder>	yeah dats good
Feb 17 10:30:40 <Bugpowder>	best I have had is Russian River Supplication though
Feb 17 10:30:45 <Bicknellski>	Or Canadian (Indian Pale Ale)
Feb 17 10:30:51 <Bugpowder>	to spendy though
Feb 17 10:30:51 <Bicknellski>	cant remember who brews it
Feb 17 10:30:53 <Bicknellski>	Molson?
Feb 17 10:30:54 <Bugpowder>	$13 / bottle
Feb 17 10:30:58 <Bicknellski>	or Labatts
Feb 17 10:31:05 <ThickAsThieves>	Pliny the Elder is a great IPA as well
Feb 17 10:31:12 <Bugpowder>	I want to try it
Feb 17 10:31:18 <Bugpowder>	don't have distro in DC
Feb 17 10:31:31 <ThickAsThieves>	found it online once
Feb 17 10:31:38 <ThickAsThieves>	haven't looked lately
Feb 17 10:31:40 <Bicknellski>	Ok so Microbrew check
Feb 17 10:31:52 <Bicknellski>	Intelligent conversation check
Feb 17 10:32:15 <Bicknellski>	... people that lead you around by the nose till you can communicate effectively and not be stupid... check
Feb 17 10:32:34 <Bicknellski>	be back in 6 months ish when the initiation is over lol
Feb 17 10:33:02 <Bugpowder>	the initiation is buying into a bubble and losing half your coins
Feb 17 10:33:03 <Bugpowder>	OR
Feb 17 10:33:12 <Bugpowder>	buying GLBSE stocks
Feb 17 10:33:42 <Bugpowder>	maybe no initiation for you though
Feb 17 10:34:36 <mircea_popescu>	im sure he'll find something to buy into and lose all his coins
Feb 17 10:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Feb 17 10:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00165 / 0.00193191 / 0.001965 (18002 shares, 34.78 BTC), 7D: 0.001599 / 0.00188869 / 0.001965 (25302 shares, 47.79 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00129541 / 0.001965 (139210 shares, 180.33 BTC)
Feb 17 10:34:58 <Bugpowder>	good choice
Feb 17 10:34:59 <mircea_popescu>	ok wtf happened here. 200 ? what, srsly ?
Feb 17 10:34:59 <Bugpowder>	:-P
Feb 17 10:35:05 <Bugpowder>	seeriously
Feb 17 10:35:12 <Bugpowder>	I dumped at 30000
Feb 17 10:35:18 <Bugpowder>	OOOOPS
Feb 17 10:35:25 <Bicknellski>	ya I get that...
Feb 17 10:35:37 <Bugpowder>	The nice thing is
Feb 17 10:35:45 <Bugpowder>	sometimes the initiation is you double your coins
Feb 17 10:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	haha this is also true.
Feb 17 10:36:27 <Bicknellski>	Unfortunately I dont like gambling so I am hopeful not to buy into something and lose the few coins I can afford to lose
Feb 17 10:36:35 <Bugpowder>	then you get overconfident
Feb 17 10:36:35 <Bicknellski>	not a very addictive personality.
Feb 17 10:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	truth of the matter is, mpex is liquid to the tune of 1-200k btc a month, but volatile to the tune of 1-500% a month too
Feb 17 10:36:41 <Bugpowder>	and buy puts
Feb 17 10:36:55 <Bicknellski>	and with age not so worried about proving anything.
Feb 17 10:37:03 <Chaang-Noi>	if had to pick only one, the one you could not pick you could not have for the rest of your life.. options are beer or btc, what do you pick?
Feb 17 10:37:04 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder just like in the real market amirite ?
Feb 17 10:37:11 <mircea_popescu>	btc.
Feb 17 10:37:17 <mircea_popescu>	i think i drunk a liter of beer in my entire life
Feb 17 10:37:25 <wao>	dont do it again!
Feb 17 10:37:40 <Bugpowder>	yep
Feb 17 10:37:48 <Bugpowder>	just more volitile
Feb 17 10:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	way
Feb 17 10:38:04 <Bicknellski>	beer I can pass up these days drank my fill when I was younger
Feb 17 10:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	with experience im realising this is the main warning actual people need re mpex.
Feb 17 10:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think anyone natively realises just how god damned volatile it is, even if they be otherwise sane and educated/experienced traders whatnot
Feb 17 10:39:09 <davos>	well if they're otherwise sane, educated, and experienced they'd probably realize that pretty quickly
Feb 17 10:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 17 10:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	then again that's what Bugpowder was saying... it takes a slap in the face
Feb 17 10:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	"fuck you bitch, i can remain insane longer than you can remain solvent"
Feb 17 10:39:50 <davos>	indeed
Feb 17 10:39:56 <davos>	but that's how most learning is done anyway
Feb 17 10:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	i guess that's true
Feb 17 10:41:28 <Bicknellski>	so fear is a good friend to have.
Feb 17 10:41:31 <Bicknellski>	nice to know
Feb 17 10:41:50 <davos>	"if you're not afraid you're not paying attention" or something like that.
Feb 17 10:43:18 <Bicknellski>	If you think your business plan has to be kept secret because otherwise others will steal it you are probably too stupid to be in business (not just BTC, but in general).
Feb 17 10:43:25 <Bicknellski>	LOL comedy.
Feb 17 10:43:57 <Bicknellski>	Ya flown planes before it is a lot like that...
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Feb 17 10:54:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.02094 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 11:01:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 30 @ 0.00986 = 0.2958 BTC [-]
Feb 17 11:01:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 43 @ 0.00986 = 0.424 BTC [-]
Feb 17 11:02:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Feb 17 11:03:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Feb 17 11:04:15 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld_afk: you there?
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Feb 17 11:04:53 <Diablo-D3>	nevermind, I looked it up myself
Feb 17 11:06:05 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 17 11:06:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.34001, Best ask: 26.40300, Bid-ask spread: 0.06299, Last trade: 26.30116, 24 hour volume: 40871.65631664, 24 hour low: 26.06000, 24 hour high: 27.40000, 24 hour vwap: 26.78838
Feb 17 11:06:16 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker btcmc
Feb 17 11:06:17 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Feb 17 11:06:21 <Diablo-D3>	er
Feb 17 11:06:24 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker btcmc
Feb 17 11:06:25 <assbot>	The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
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Feb 17 11:10:01 <Diablo-D3>	wait, btcmc never relisted anywhere did iyt
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Feb 17 11:13:46 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker --last
Feb 17 11:13:50 <gribble>	26.26140
Feb 17 11:15:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01653 BTC [-]
Feb 17 11:15:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01652 BTC [-]
Feb 17 11:15:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.0165 = 0.825 BTC [-]
Feb 17 11:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00657819 = 6.5782 BTC [-]
Feb 17 11:16:58 <Ukto>	hey Namworld_afk what are the chances of getting a financial update for bvps? I was actually kind of expecting it with the btct listing :/
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Feb 17 11:22:38 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 17 11:22:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.50000, Best ask: 25.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 25.70000, 24 hour volume: 47618.69244929, 24 hour low: 25.50000, 24 hour high: 27.40000, 24 hour vwap: 26.65796
Feb 17 11:25:48 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 17 11:25:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.00194, Best ask: 25.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.69806, Last trade: 25.00194, 24 hour volume: 52259.12969220, 24 hour low: 25.00000, 24 hour high: 27.40000, 24 hour vwap: 26.52656
Feb 17 11:26:26 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 17 11:26:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.00000, Best ask: 25.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 25.00000, 24 hour volume: 52347.58935410, 24 hour low: 25.00000, 24 hour high: 27.40000, 24 hour vwap: 26.52406
Feb 17 11:26:30 <DeadWeasel>	crikey, nosedive
Feb 17 11:26:41 <DeadWeasel>	i hope m t w gets a boost from media attention.
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Feb 17 11:29:51 <wao>	;;ticker
Feb 17 11:29:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.00000, Best ask: 25.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 25.00000, 24 hour volume: 52704.76362301, 24 hour low: 25.00000, 24 hour high: 27.40000, 24 hour vwap: 26.51089
Feb 17 11:29:55 <wao>	going down
Feb 17 11:30:04 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Feb 17 11:30:05 <gribble>	237.206307 seconds
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Feb 17 11:32:41 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1534415#msg1534415
Feb 17 11:32:42 <Chaang-Noi>	wow
Feb 17 11:33:05 <Chaang-Noi>	wow at gox lag
Feb 17 11:34:59 <Ukto>	wonder if hte api lags also
Feb 17 11:35:01 <Ukto>	when the site does
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Feb 17 11:35:16 <Ukto>	the*
Feb 17 11:36:45 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto, Chaang-Noi, DeadWeasel, mircea_popescu, Namworld_afk, EskimoBob: ^
Feb 17 11:38:34 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Feb 17 11:39:08 <Chaang-Noi>	im going to bed, night all
Feb 17 11:39:49 <Bicknellski>	Nite
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Feb 17 11:40:08 <Diablo-D3>	So, basically, in the end, I can pay back what was originally paid out, give or take.
Feb 17 11:41:28 <Bicknellski>	Diablo-D3: So lucky then... will you ever do this again?
Feb 17 11:41:42 <Diablo-D3>	I think so.
Feb 17 11:41:50 <Diablo-D3>	I still think the original plan works.
Feb 17 11:42:59 <Bicknellski>	Id like to learn more ... got read 40 pages in that thread
Feb 17 11:43:00 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 17 11:43:04 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 17 11:43:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.92338, Best ask: 25.92440, Bid-ask spread: 0.00102, Last trade: 25.92338, 24 hour volume: 54018.28756317, 24 hour low: 25.00000, 24 hour high: 27.40000, 24 hour vwap: 26.49505
Feb 17 11:44:44 <Bicknellski>	So the plan for maine?
Feb 17 11:44:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065274 = 2.8205 BTC [-]
Feb 17 11:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7792 @ 0.00065253 = 5.0845 BTC [-]
Feb 17 11:44:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 487 @ 0.0006525 = 0.3178 BTC [-]
Feb 17 11:45:22 <Bicknellski>	where would you get the asics?
Feb 17 11:45:34 <Diablo-D3>	the asics are going to be dropped from the dmc 2.0 plan
Feb 17 11:45:43 <Bicknellski>	really
Feb 17 11:45:45 <Bicknellski>	huh?
Feb 17 11:46:05 <Bicknellski>	but doesnt asicminer? have a viable option?
Feb 17 11:46:11 <Diablo-D3>	maybe.
Feb 17 11:46:29 <Diablo-D3>	see, the plan was three fold
Feb 17 11:46:33 <Bicknellski>	I would think it is the best route no?
Feb 17 11:46:41 <Bicknellski>	considering electricity
Feb 17 11:46:46 <Diablo-D3>	1) break even or even exceed power usage generating our own power
Feb 17 11:47:16 <Diablo-D3>	2) focus on customers that want to do high density computing, renting racks for $20-30k/mo
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Feb 17 11:47:44 <Diablo-D3>	3) use 2-3 racks for ASICs, out of 2-3 dozen.
Feb 17 11:48:06 <Bicknellski>	So why the US?
Feb 17 11:48:18 <Diablo-D3>	because most customers need to have their computers racked in the US
Feb 17 11:48:29 <Bicknellski>	just easier for you to get everything cheap I guess
Feb 17 11:48:36 <Bicknellski>	power, building etc
Feb 17 11:48:59 <Diablo-D3>	maine is also very close to the ny/boston/toronto information corridor
Feb 17 11:49:20 <Diablo-D3>	which is where most of the world's internet traffic goes through
Feb 17 11:49:28 <Bicknellski>	ya makes sense
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Feb 17 11:49:40 <Bicknellski>	so huge part is the rental
Feb 17 11:49:45 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Feb 17 11:49:49 <Bicknellski>	that offsets everything
Feb 17 11:49:53 <davos>	new england is also good because of the higher $/kWh
Feb 17 11:50:00 <Diablo-D3>	davos: yes, but thats two fold
Feb 17 11:50:07 <davos>	if you're producing your own power
Feb 17 11:50:08 <Diablo-D3>	without the generating electricity part, that'd be the biggest problem
Feb 17 11:50:10 <Diablo-D3>	HOWEVER
Feb 17 11:50:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2029 @ 0.00065886 = 1.3368 BTC [+]
Feb 17 11:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066024 = 2.8529 BTC [+]
Feb 17 11:50:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00066025 = 8.022 BTC [+]
Feb 17 11:50:21 <Diablo-D3>	large industrial customers pay much less
Feb 17 11:50:27 <Bicknellski>	Ya...
Feb 17 11:50:28 <Diablo-D3>	I mean much much less
Feb 17 11:50:35 <Bicknellski>	volume
Feb 17 11:50:42 <Diablo-D3>	they pay what industrial customers pay across the nation, instead of high maine prices
Feb 17 11:51:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Feb 17 11:51:08 <davos>	national grid pricing - which is what you'd be getting paid for surplus e2
Feb 17 11:51:14 <Bicknellski>	not looked into other countries for something similar?
Feb 17 11:51:19 <Diablo-D3>	its quirk of maine pricing, they only gouge residential and commercial
Feb 17 11:51:26 <Bicknellski>	or say secondary roll out?
Feb 17 11:51:33 <Diablo-D3>	Bicknellski: maybe secondary roll outs
Feb 17 11:51:36 <Diablo-D3>	but not the original
Feb 17 11:51:53 <Bicknellski>	maybe china or india
Feb 17 11:52:16 <davos>	for international you'd probably want to move upchain rather than down - do EU and get the tax benes and such for the power
Feb 17 11:52:34 <Bicknellski>	closer to chips in China
Feb 17 11:52:43 <Bicknellski>	lol build your own asics
Feb 17 11:52:43 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 17 11:53:32 <davos>	meh. for chips you airfreight anyway - time isn't THAT big of a deal
Feb 17 11:54:27 <Bicknellski>	so says BFL
Feb 17 11:54:27 <Bicknellski>	lol
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Feb 17 11:55:12 <Bicknellski>	It be interesting to have something akin to your idea scaled down in Indonesia
Feb 17 11:55:38 <Bicknellski>	lots of unused manufacturing properties in Jakarta
Feb 17 11:55:40 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, Im not interested in areas of hte world that constantly suffer from national or social disasters
Feb 17 11:55:52 <davos>	i'd probably go with something more like denmark - if you can get a permit for a 30m tower @ 35 KW in the $350k range pre-benes; then get decent network rates on surplus e2
Feb 17 11:56:02 <Diablo-D3>	no flooding, no tornadoes, no hurricanes
Feb 17 11:56:12 <davos>	not to mention a shitty grid
Feb 17 11:56:15 <Diablo-D3>	and no earthquakes
Feb 17 11:56:21 <Bicknellski>	Ya for your model
Feb 17 11:56:35 <Bicknellski>	... if your rent server racks
Feb 17 11:56:43 <Diablo-D3>	like, all those DCs in washington dc, north virginia, and NYC? fuck that shit
Feb 17 11:56:50 <Bicknellski>	but that must be a hard sell
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Feb 17 11:57:05 <Diablo-D3>	Bicknellski: btw, its with power included and unlimited power
Feb 17 11:57:25 <Diablo-D3>	a lot of racks down at around $5k have shitty cooling and like 1 or 2 15a circuits
Feb 17 11:57:38 <Diablo-D3>	even if you could fill the rack, it'd overheat badly
Feb 17 11:57:42 <Bicknellski>	solar cheaper here or more cost effective...
Feb 17 11:57:49 <Bicknellski>	considering on the equator
Feb 17 11:57:54 <Diablo-D3>	maine isnt magically shitty at solar
Feb 17 11:57:57 <Bicknellski>	 but youd need oil cooled
Feb 17 11:57:58 <Bicknellski>	I think
Feb 17 11:58:20 <Diablo-D3>	sun shines diagonally across the US
Feb 17 11:58:31 <Diablo-D3>	the line goes from arizona to maine
Feb 17 11:58:41 <Bicknellski>	ya we got 90 most of the time here
Feb 17 11:58:56 <Bicknellski>	roasting
Feb 17 11:59:14 <Diablo-D3>	if you look at solar panel graphs, you can see the line dragging sun hours across the north to south lines
Feb 17 12:00:01 <Bicknellski>	so basically  your miners are the hook for btc investment
Feb 17 12:00:12 <Diablo-D3>	Bicknellski: well, that was the point
Feb 17 12:00:17 <Diablo-D3>	I owuldnt need to convert USD to BTC
Feb 17 12:00:24 <Diablo-D3>	the asics would have generated everything I needed
Feb 17 12:00:26 <Bicknellski>	I wouldnt think people look twice at rack operation
Feb 17 12:00:28 <Diablo-D3>	thus lowering costs
Feb 17 12:00:42 <Bicknellski>	ya... it is a good biz model
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Feb 17 12:01:28 <Bicknellski>	maybe you should look into that for packaging that for businesses who already have data centers
Feb 17 12:01:37 <Diablo-D3>	they're already doomed
Feb 17 12:01:48 <Diablo-D3>	most datacenters simply cannot handle high density computing
Feb 17 12:01:59 <Bicknellski>	I imagine a few miners would racked in be good to offset costs?
Feb 17 12:02:12 <Diablo-D3>	they'd have to tear EVERYTHING out to reconfigure it like I wanted
Feb 17 12:02:27 <Bicknellski>	that wont fly for them
Feb 17 12:02:29 <Diablo-D3>	it'd be cheaper just to build a new DC from scratch using an existing warehouse-type building
Feb 17 12:02:37 <Diablo-D3>	which is what DMC's plan was
Feb 17 12:02:43 <Bicknellski>	target companies moving downsizing or upgrading
Feb 17 12:02:53 <Diablo-D3>	most companies dont have DCs
Feb 17 12:03:00 <Diablo-D3>	if they do, its really just a rack in a room
Feb 17 12:03:03 <Bicknellski>	they outsource
Feb 17 12:03:05 <Diablo-D3>	they rent space
Feb 17 12:03:14 <Diablo-D3>	the datacenter market is ALWAYS full
Feb 17 12:03:20 <Bicknellski>	ya been in a few state of the art ones
Feb 17 12:03:23 <Bicknellski>	in Singapore
Feb 17 12:03:33 <Diablo-D3>	you know what I find ironic?
Feb 17 12:03:38 <Diablo-D3>	google did a tour of theirs
Feb 17 12:03:40 <Diablo-D3>	its shit
Feb 17 12:03:44 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 17 12:03:51 <Diablo-D3>	they could double their effective rack space if they did it my way
Feb 17 12:03:56 <Diablo-D3>	and save a lot on costs as well
Feb 17 12:04:17 <Bicknellski>	so you do design then
Feb 17 12:04:31 <Diablo-D3>	yes and no
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Feb 17 12:04:45 <Diablo-D3>	I'd still need to hire a company or three to actually do the work
Feb 17 12:04:49 <Bicknellski>	what is your background? engineering?
Feb 17 12:04:53 <Diablo-D3>	what Im good at is running numbers.
Feb 17 12:05:47 <markedathome|wth>	Diablo-D3: certified audited accounts available?
Feb 17 12:07:20 <Bicknellski>	so will you relist on mpex?
Feb 17 12:07:28 <Bicknellski>	I mean is that an option?
Feb 17 12:08:00 <Diablo-D3>	markedathome|wth: I think Im going to have to hire a lawyer and accountant too. I'm not sure what that is, sadlyyyyyyyyyyy
Feb 17 12:08:04 <Bicknellski>	be very interested to see what you have planned for this IPO
Feb 17 12:08:10 <Diablo-D3>	vnc is sticking key events again
Feb 17 12:08:17 <Diablo-D3>	Bicknellski: its going to be corporate bonds.
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Feb 17 12:08:44 <Diablo-D3>	Bicknellski: no more shares
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Feb 17 12:08:56 <Bicknellski>	more efficient
Feb 17 12:09:06 <Diablo-D3>	more legal
Feb 17 12:09:28 <Diablo-D3>	nefario lied about his exchange and the legality of the shares glbse listed companies were issuing
Feb 17 12:09:54 <Bicknellski>	ya
Feb 17 12:10:10 <Diablo-D3>	which is why I have to buy all of these shares back before I can start on dmc 2.0
Feb 17 12:10:27 <Bicknellski>	so we lenders get a fixed interest and money back for our bonds
Feb 17 12:10:33 <Diablo-D3>	yup
Feb 17 12:10:48 <Bicknellski>	ya good on ya...
Feb 17 12:10:51 <Bicknellski>	that shows stones
Feb 17 12:10:57 <Bicknellski>	... fuck Id be pissed
Feb 17 12:11:13 <Bicknellski>	flip the chess board pissed
Feb 17 12:11:31 <Diablo-D3>	something like the equiv of 5% annually over 10 years on zero coupon OID bonds
Feb 17 12:11:50 <Bicknellski>	denominations?
Feb 17 12:11:57 <Bicknellski>	have any idea?
Feb 17 12:12:06 <Diablo-D3>	might be 1k btc each
Feb 17 12:13:14 <Diablo-D3>	Im also upping the IPO amount from $1m USD to $10m USD
Feb 17 12:13:55 <Bicknellski>	ya lawyer time
Feb 17 12:13:55 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 17 12:14:47 <Bicknellski>	3000 USD
Feb 17 12:14:49 <Bicknellski>	or less
Feb 17 12:14:50 <davos>	It sorta feels to me as though you'd be better off with a USD listing than a btc listing.
Feb 17 12:15:01 <Bicknellski>	ya
Feb 17 12:15:04 <Diablo-D3>	davos: I think Im going to accept USD as well
Feb 17 12:15:11 <Bicknellski>	seems pretty hard to get that much btc
Feb 17 12:15:15 <Diablo-D3>	but the minimum investment is going to be much higher
Feb 17 12:15:18 <davos>	well that's not really my thought
Feb 17 12:15:34 <Diablo-D3>	Bicknellski: well, we're at $26
Feb 17 12:15:37 <davos>	my thought is you'd be trapping yourself into a 5% APY payout nominally denominated in btc
Feb 17 12:15:53 <Bicknellski>	ya wicked fluctuations
Feb 17 12:16:03 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 10000000 / 26
Feb 17 12:16:04 <gribble>	384615.384615
Feb 17 12:16:11 <Diablo-D3>	thats only 385k BTC
Feb 17 12:16:15 <Diablo-D3>	thats actually less than last time
Feb 17 12:16:34 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 1000000 / 5
Feb 17 12:16:34 <gribble>	200000
Feb 17 12:16:37 <Diablo-D3>	or maybe not
Feb 17 12:17:17 <Diablo-D3>	davos: yes, and what stops me from just buying 1.60x or whatever btc early into the 10 year period
Feb 17 12:19:36 <Diablo-D3>	it could go up to $1000
Feb 17 12:19:38 <Diablo-D3>	and it wouldnt matter
Feb 17 12:19:43 <davos>	if you anticipate a long-term (10yr) general rise in the btcusd, then its not so much a problem of being unable to pay... its more an issue of profitability. If you think btc have a higher usd cost per unit in 10 years than it does now then it would make sense to have your liabilities denominated in usd
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Feb 17 12:20:27 <Bugpowder>	ASICMINER just hit 3TH
Feb 17 12:21:50 <davos>	wd
Feb 17 12:22:55 <Bugpowder>	already found 52 blocks
Feb 17 12:23:12 <Bicknellski>	wow
Feb 17 12:23:20 <Bicknellski>	they have what? 12th?
Feb 17 12:23:23 <Bicknellski>	total?
Feb 17 12:23:25 <Bicknellski>	coming?
Feb 17 12:23:27 <Bicknellski>	or more
Feb 17 12:23:29 <davos>	it's what they get for being first
Feb 17 12:25:38 <davos>	more interesting I think is that they've pushed the time to block down under 8 minutes
Feb 17 12:26:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065742 = 2.8407 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:26:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16013 @ 0.00065708 = 10.5218 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:32:01 <Bugpowder>	new diff today
Feb 17 12:32:05 <jurov>	;;bc,diffchange
Feb 17 12:32:06 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 11.2711072217 % based on data since last change | 30.4664306956 % based on data for last three days
Feb 17 12:32:27 <jurov>	how does one get absolute value?
Feb 17 12:32:41 <jurov>	;;calc [bc,diff]*1.11
Feb 17 12:32:41 <gribble>	3635765.69109
Feb 17 12:33:11 <jurov>	;;calc [bc,diff]*1.3
Feb 17 12:33:12 <gribble>	4258103.96254
Feb 17 12:34:32 <jurov>	real diff will be closer to the "based on data since last change", i guess?
Feb 17 12:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065273 = 2.8204 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:35:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065252 = 2.8195 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11390 @ 0.0006525 = 7.432 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2618 @ 0.00064653 = 1.6926 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:35:46 <Bugpowder>	yea
Feb 17 12:36:32 <Bugpowder>	Price of BTC needs to stay high till I complete a local sale in 3 hours.
Feb 17 12:36:34 <Bugpowder>	:-P
Feb 17 12:36:45 <Bugpowder>	then crash
Feb 17 12:37:10 <jurov>	lol... use vwap instead
Feb 17 12:37:15 <Bugpowder>	I am
Feb 17 12:37:24 <Bugpowder>	its still getting pounded
Feb 17 12:38:01 <kakobrekla>	that bracelet kido again :)
Feb 17 12:38:05 <kakobrekla>	?
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Feb 17 12:38:46 <Bugpowder>	nah
Feb 17 12:38:54 <Bugpowder>	braces (on the teeth)
Feb 17 12:39:03 <Bugpowder>	someone new
Feb 17 12:39:14 <kakobrekla>	ah
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Feb 17 12:41:14 <jurov>	CoinBr.iDiff-E will close in 4 days, not much volume, but quite interesting. The price converged at 3.8mil satoshi.
Feb 17 12:41:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2722 @ 0.00065539 = 1.784 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 12:43:40 <jurov>	and 10 shares sold at 0.035 .... only one who'll have a profit going long
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Feb 17 12:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00654498 = 1.9635 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064664 = 2.7941 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:44:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7249 @ 0.00064653 = 4.6867 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064506 = 3.2253 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:45:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15552 @ 0.00064496 = 10.0304 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:45:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 54 @ 0.00068 = 0.0367 BTC [-]
Feb 17 12:45:38 <jurov>	thinking what would be reasonable collateral for next iDiff-E April... somewhere  25-35 million?
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Feb 17 12:59:34 <usagi>	hihi
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Feb 17 13:08:00 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 15 hours, 57 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 17 13:08:03 <thestringpuller>	boo
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Feb 17 13:14:15 <Bugpowder>	This dump is getting exciting!
Feb 17 13:15:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 4 @ 0.02 = 0.08 BTC [-]
Feb 17 13:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 22 @ 0.0559673 = 1.2313 BTC [-]
Feb 17 13:16:17 <Diablo-D3>	[12:19:43] <davos> if you anticipate a long-term (10yr) general rise in the btcusd, then its not so much a problem of being unable to pay... its more an issue of profitability. If you think btc have a higher usd cost per unit in 10 years than it does now then it would make sense to have your liabilities denominated in usd
Feb 17 13:16:23 <Diablo-D3>	I dont anticipate it
Feb 17 13:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 978 @ 0.0559673 = 54.736 BTC [-]
Feb 17 13:16:45 <davos>	ah
Feb 17 13:16:47 <Diablo-D3>	davos: however, if I already have the btc, I dont need to atually worry
Feb 17 13:16:50 <Diablo-D3>	*actually
Feb 17 13:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064503 = 2.7872 BTC [+]
Feb 17 13:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4990 @ 0.00064497 = 3.2184 BTC [-]
Feb 17 13:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7480 @ 0.00064496 = 4.8243 BTC [-]
Feb 17 13:17:11 <Diablo-D3>	if I get 400k btc, and before 10 years is up have 400k btc
Feb 17 13:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4309 @ 0.00064408 = 2.7753 BTC [-]
Feb 17 13:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 1000 @ 0.07610454 = 76.1045 BTC [-]
Feb 17 13:17:21 <Diablo-D3>	it doesnt matter when I acquired the 400k btc
Feb 17 13:17:27 <Diablo-D3>	at $20, $5, or $1000
Feb 17 13:17:30 <Diablo-D3>	as long as its paid
Feb 17 13:20:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8241 @ 0.00064408 = 5.3079 BTC [-]
Feb 17 13:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4409 @ 0.00064388 = 2.8389 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 13:43:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00064531 = 4.5172 BTC [+]
Feb 17 13:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00064531 = 3.0975 BTC [+]
Feb 17 13:54:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 14:16:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065573 = 2.8334 BTC [+]
Feb 17 14:16:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16966 @ 0.00065574 = 11.1253 BTC [+]
Feb 17 14:16:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00065905 = 9.7869 BTC [+]
Feb 17 14:16:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00066025 = 2.575 BTC [+]
Feb 17 14:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17929 @ 0.00066046 = 11.8414 BTC [+]
Feb 17 14:16:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9338 @ 0.00066093 = 6.1718 BTC [+]
Feb 17 14:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1446 @ 0.00066206 = 0.9573 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 14:21:29 <thepok>	!bc,stats
Feb 17 14:22:59 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 17 14:23:03 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221725 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 34 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 hours, 24 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3654798.13107 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.58106
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Feb 17 14:23:27 <thestringpuller>	why iz no one doing IDIFF futures
Feb 17 14:23:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 17 14:23:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 7D: 0.0429 / 0.04628974 / 0.07595 (78 shares, 3.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC)
Feb 17 14:24:00 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: before you fly to the moon and have 400K BTC, fix that fkn DMC of yours ;)
Feb 17 14:24:24 <ThickAsThieves>	whats up with satoshidice.com
Feb 17 14:24:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6802 @ 0.00613002 = 41.6964 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 14:25:29 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: you should be trading futures
Feb 17 14:25:35 <thestringpuller>	you could become a rich man
Feb 17 14:25:57 <Bugpowder>	Plenty of asks on X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 17 14:26:10 <thestringpuller>	not enough bids
Feb 17 14:26:17 <Bugpowder>	I guess nobody expects Avalon actually shipped
Feb 17 14:26:21 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 17 14:26:23 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221725 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 34 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 hours, 13 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3654798.13107 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.58106
Feb 17 14:26:25 <Bugpowder>	and BFL will in time
Feb 17 14:26:49 <thestringpuller>	the difficult is gonna go up but probably not high enough for a .075btc contract
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Feb 17 14:26:59 <EskimoBob>	Did Avalon ship or not?
Feb 17 14:27:08 <ThickAsThieves>	my bet is not
Feb 17 14:27:12 <thestringpuller>	check the charts...
Feb 17 14:27:18 <Bugpowder>	thats all asicminer
Feb 17 14:27:22 <Bugpowder>	3TH
Feb 17 14:27:30 <Bugpowder>	is asicminer coming on
Feb 17 14:27:34 <thestringpuller>	they also shipped 1 to garzik
Feb 17 14:27:41 <thestringpuller>	:D
Feb 17 14:27:45 <ThickAsThieves>	but i still think BFL will start to ship this month
Feb 17 14:27:54 <EskimoBob>	damn, this elk meat is just too good
Feb 17 14:28:07 *	EskimoBob eats more
Feb 17 14:28:17 <thestringpuller>	stupid canadians.
Feb 17 14:28:29 <EskimoBob>	yeah, fuck canadians
Feb 17 14:28:30 <davos>	I'm a fan of elk
Feb 17 14:29:20 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: how high do you think the difficulty will go up?
Feb 17 14:29:37 <Bugpowder>	By MAR?
Feb 17 14:29:43 <Diablo-D3>	[02:24:01] <EskimoBob> Diablo-D3: before you fly to the moon and have 400K BTC, fix that fkn DMC of yours ;)
Feb 17 14:29:56 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: you missed the earlier url
Feb 17 14:30:08 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: and if you didnt realize, the 400k IS for DMC 2.0
Feb 17 14:30:11 <EskimoBob>	elk, deer, rabbit and lamb
Feb 17 14:30:13 <Bugpowder>	7.0e6
Feb 17 14:30:40 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: 2.0 ?
Feb 17 14:30:50 <Diablo-D3>	2.0
Feb 17 14:31:32 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3 is relisted? lol
Feb 17 14:31:43 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: Ive been for quite some time
Feb 17 14:31:43 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: can you please send me your business model? I really like to read it (we can sign NDA)
Feb 17 14:31:55 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: same business model, minus the mining.
Feb 17 14:32:21 <kakobrekla>	the M in DMC now stands for "minus-mining"
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Feb 17 14:32:27 <EskimoBob>	never see your business model. What ever you had in forums, was everything else
Feb 17 14:32:45 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: future trading intrigues meeeee
Feb 17 14:33:04 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: Im changing the name to the name I had selected for the vps reselling side business of dmc that never took off
Feb 17 14:33:09 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: use this http://www.businessmodelgeneration.com/canvas
Feb 17 14:33:13 <thestringpuller>	who ever got those .0429 is making out with a steal if more ASICs come online
Feb 17 14:33:23 <EskimoBob>	and read the book while you are at it :)
Feb 17 14:33:30 <thestringpuller>	That book is garbage.
Feb 17 14:33:44 <thestringpuller>	It's part of the startup bubble.
Feb 17 14:33:47 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: if you dont remember the business model, it was going to be a datacenter catering to high density computing customers
Feb 17 14:34:09 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: figure out how to make it green first.
Feb 17 14:34:13 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: you obviously have no idea wtf you are talking about. No problem, its you ;)
Feb 17 14:34:21 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: under the original $1m IPO, it was going to be 2-3 dozen racks, rented out for $15-25k/mo, electricity included
Feb 17 14:34:39 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: and the majority of electricity provided by company owned assets
Feb 17 14:34:45 <EskimoBob>	why your racks?
Feb 17 14:34:45 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: I already did long ago
Feb 17 14:34:52 <thestringpuller>	EskimoBob: I own that book. That's how I know it's garbage. It has a few very good points in it, however the canvas is retarded as a whole.
Feb 17 14:35:08 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: ... my racks? Im confused.
Feb 17 14:35:18 <EskimoBob>	thestringpuller: maybe you did not "get it"?
Feb 17 14:35:32 <Diablo-D3>	btw, Ill agree with thestringpuller, that book is shit
Feb 17 14:35:47 <EskimoBob>	"2-3 dozen racks" - why do you think anyone wants your racks
Feb 17 14:35:49 <Diablo-D3>	Ive actually seen it mentioned by silicon valley VCers as being utter shit
Feb 17 14:35:57 <thestringpuller>	A business only needs 2 things, a hustle, and revenue.
Feb 17 14:36:07 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: Im assuming you dont understand what a datacenter is.
Feb 17 14:36:12 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: one thing: mvp.
Feb 17 14:36:19 <thestringpuller>	you can make money before the mvp
Feb 17 14:36:23 <EskimoBob>	utter shit or not, if you can not describe your business ... you have no idea wtf you are doing :)
Feb 17 14:36:27 <EskimoBob>	simple
Feb 17 14:36:47 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: you're not asking me to describe my business, you're asking me to describe how datacenters work.
Feb 17 14:36:52 <thestringpuller>	Namworld_afk: we emailed you
Feb 17 14:36:54 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: if you want that, wait for a forum post.
Feb 17 14:37:00 <EskimoBob>	you guys are like 2 idiots, who blame tools :)
Feb 17 14:37:12 <Diablo-D3>	you're a tool, and yes, I blame you.
Feb 17 14:37:37 <EskimoBob>	it's just a fkn tool to make sense wtf you are building :) . If you did not understand it... oh well
Feb 17 14:38:01 <Diablo-D3>	you dont need a BOOK for that.
Feb 17 14:38:09 <EskimoBob>	:)
Feb 17 14:38:31 <thestringpuller>	"I went to school for it I know what I'm talking about"
Feb 17 14:38:36 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: Ill repeat what I said in here when you wernt
Feb 17 14:39:04 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: just for fun, download it, fill it out and post it to the forum
Feb 17 14:39:05 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: maine is near the information corridor between DC, nyc, boston, and toronto, where most of the world's internet traffic goes through
Feb 17 14:39:09 <EskimoBob>	just for fun
Feb 17 14:39:22 <EskimoBob>	lets see, how it looks. Yo do not have to use image
Feb 17 14:39:31 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: most DCs along this corridor are at capacity and have not accepted customers for quite some time
Feb 17 14:39:50 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: the DC market, as a whole, needs more DCs.
Feb 17 14:40:07 <EskimoBob>	just humor me
Feb 17 14:40:07 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: doing it in maine is cheaper, more viable, and more disaster resistant
Feb 17 14:40:35 <Diablo-D3>	why would they go with me? because they dont really have a choice.
Feb 17 14:40:48 <EskimoBob>	I rally like to see your business model described in those little "boxes"
Feb 17 14:43:28 <Diablo-D3>	why?
Feb 17 14:43:31 <Diablo-D3>	it doesnt do anything
Feb 17 14:45:07 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: you have a plan and you have a model. So it's probably really easy to use it and post it. Start our: Customer Segment (write your stuff) then Customer Real.. etc
Feb 17 14:45:29 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: Im not going to do it right now
Feb 17 14:45:33 <EskimoBob>	our - your
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Feb 17 14:45:47 <EskimoBob>	np
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Feb 17 14:45:57 <EskimoBob>	can you present it tomorrow?
Feb 17 14:46:03 <Diablo-D3>	nope
Feb 17 14:46:12 <Diablo-D3>	ask me when DMC 1.0 has been closed for good.
Feb 17 14:46:31 <EskimoBob>	so you have no idea wtf your DMC 2.0 is going to do?
Feb 17 14:46:50 <dub>	windmills
Feb 17 14:47:09 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: like I said at the beginning, its the same plan without the mining.
Feb 17 14:47:26 <EskimoBob>	DMS 1.0 closed? what do you mean by that? Are you going to pay me back what you got from me?
Feb 17 14:47:52 <EskimoBob>	you are mixing up "plan" and "model"
Feb 17 14:48:07 <Diablo-D3>	you're mixing up "mvp" vs "everything else"
Feb 17 14:48:12 <Diablo-D3>	I only care about the mvp
Feb 17 14:48:56 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: Im going to assume, btw, you just like to troll
Feb 17 14:49:00 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: you can send me back my coin I wasted on DMC :)
Feb 17 14:49:05 <EskimoBob>	start with that
Feb 17 14:49:07 <Diablo-D3>	I already gave you a url earlier that you should have read already
Feb 17 14:49:22 <EskimoBob>	i must have missed it
Feb 17 14:49:38 <EskimoBob>	can you post it
Feb 17 14:51:06 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1534415#msg1534415
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Feb 17 14:52:01 <dub>	gah 1016 mails deleted and im only back to 5pm last friday
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Feb 17 15:02:09 <thestringpuller>	lol bitfunder
Feb 17 15:02:22 <thestringpuller>	Ukto the programmer
Feb 17 15:03:34 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: interesting read but DMC is still lost 90% of it's value, under your management.
Feb 17 15:03:55 <EskimoBob>	and this is a fact
Feb 17 15:04:05 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: I dont think you actually read it.
Feb 17 15:04:11 <Diablo-D3>	dub: also, wtf did you do
Feb 17 15:05:14 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: no matter what you write, DMC is trading at 1/11 of it's previous value... or is it 1/33
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Feb 17 15:05:46 <Diablo-D3>	"Given about 1691 to 1966 BTC were paid into DMC and about 1015 BTC have been paid back plus 90 BTC in dividends, between 586 and 861 BTC are still owed." "DMC has approximately between 507 and 1212 BTC in assets."
Feb 17 15:06:05 <dub>	Diablo-D3: wat?
Feb 17 15:06:18 <Diablo-D3>	dub: 1016 mails deleted, still more to go
Feb 17 15:07:28 <dub>	yeah shit is retarded
Feb 17 15:07:53 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: so where did I lose the value? if anything, we're around breaking even.
Feb 17 15:08:45 <Diablo-D3>	dub: where did they all come from?
Feb 17 15:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065161 = 2.8156 BTC [-]
Feb 17 15:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00065155 = 4.8866 BTC [-]
Feb 17 15:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23981 @ 0.00064864 = 15.555 BTC [-]
Feb 17 15:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52598 @ 0.00064388 = 33.8668 BTC [-]
Feb 17 15:09:04 <EskimoBob>	are you retarded Diablo-D3? It was trading at 0.6-0.3 and no this shit is worth what? 0.03? Do you see the extra 0 ?
Feb 17 15:09:12 <EskimoBob>	correction
Feb 17 15:09:34 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: you're just bitching about YOUR case.
Feb 17 15:09:39 <EskimoBob>	1.00 dropped to 0.3 and then  you pulled your 0.01 bull shit
Feb 17 15:09:54 <EskimoBob>	I was your only investor?
Feb 17 15:09:57 <dub>	Diablo-D3: mostly machine generated, every time an LSP flaps for eg
Feb 17 15:10:09 <Diablo-D3>	dub: on gmail? use gmail label sorting rules
Feb 17 15:10:36 <dub>	lookout
Feb 17 15:10:55 <Diablo-D3>	not on gmail? use procmail.
Feb 17 15:11:00 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: if you think DMC is so valuable, why don you buy back my shares at what you sold it to me and we call it even
Feb 17 15:11:17 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: how many shares do you have?
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Feb 17 15:11:26 <dub>	Diablo-D3: its probably hard to understand never having had a job but some things are outside ones control
Feb 17 15:11:32 <EskimoBob>	see PM Diablo-D3
Feb 17 15:11:43 <Diablo-D3>	dub: er? Im just talking about managing your email here, dude
Feb 17 15:11:50 <dub>	Diablo-D3: also, lookout is a shining beacon of sanity after lotus notes
Feb 17 15:12:22 <Diablo-D3>	dub: oh, lookout is some business thing? never heard of it
Feb 17 15:13:12 <dub>	outlook
Feb 17 15:13:19 <Diablo-D3>	oh!
Feb 17 15:13:22 <Diablo-D3>	_that thing_
Feb 17 15:13:25 <Diablo-D3>	fuck microsoft
Feb 17 15:13:31 <dub>	dude try notes
Feb 17 15:13:39 <Diablo-D3>	Ive heard horror stories of notes
Feb 17 15:13:47 <dub>	you will pine for outlook (SWIDT!)
Feb 17 15:13:50 <Diablo-D3>	btw, you CAN feed imap to procmail
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Feb 17 15:14:20 <dub>	mutt is the one true MUA anyway
Feb 17 15:14:39 <Diablo-D3>	I agree, but gmail really isnt that bad
Feb 17 15:15:15 <Diablo-D3>	I used to use mutt + procmail + fetchmail back when I had a pop3 email box
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Feb 17 15:16:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 9 @ 0.0099 = 0.0891 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 15:19:53 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: So I guess you do not believe in this DMC BS as much as you like us to believe. :)
Feb 17 15:20:11 <Diablo-D3>	I believe in it a shitload more than you do, thats for sure
Feb 17 15:20:55 <EskimoBob>	but you are too pussy to buy your crap back and "make a million"?
Feb 17 15:21:08 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Feb 17 15:21:32 <Diablo-D3>	Ive been buying it back.
Feb 17 15:21:38 <EskimoBob>	DMC 2.0 - LOL
Feb 17 15:21:53 <Diablo-D3>	I already paid back 1015 BTC.
Feb 17 15:22:10 <EskimoBob>	not to me, asshat :)
Feb 17 15:22:30 <thestringpuller>	That's your fault EskimoBob
Feb 17 15:22:32 <EskimoBob>	I offered you the shares, you did not want because we both know it's pile of shit
Feb 17 15:22:34 <thestringpuller>	stop investing in stupid things
Feb 17 15:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol someone's address is 1JEW
Feb 17 15:22:44 <EskimoBob>	I never ever seen you offer me a buyback
Feb 17 15:22:50 <thestringpuller>	yup
Feb 17 15:23:10 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: oh man, I want that address
Feb 17 15:23:17 <DeadWeasel>	http://blog.coinbase.com/  nice blog post, but I'm still 100BTC in limbo, "pending" transaction not included in teh blockchain.  paralyzed bitcoins for 3 days now.
Feb 17 15:23:18 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: when did you offer me to buy back your DMC?
Feb 17 15:23:28 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: do you even have it for sale on the exchange?
Feb 17 15:24:36 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: what did I tell you? Buy that shit back at the price you sold it to me.
Feb 17 15:24:47 <EskimoBob>	Show me how much you believe in this
Feb 17 15:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel so leave them a comment
Feb 17 15:24:50 <OgNasty>	Anyone have any suggestions for things they'd like to see different about NastyFans.org?
Feb 17 15:24:55 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: THEN PUT IT FOR SALE ON THE EXCHANGE FOR THAT PRICE.
Feb 17 15:25:01 <DeadWeasel>	I've left them a few mircea_popescu
Feb 17 15:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	nm, their blog doesn't allow comments
Feb 17 15:25:21 <DeadWeasel>	they know.  if you read that post you realize they didn't have the coins to cover deposits
Feb 17 15:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	how very chickenshitty.
Feb 17 15:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	but they did over 1bn!!!1 there's grapsh!!!
Feb 17 15:25:37 <DeadWeasel>	support emails, and reddit posts, bitcointalk posts
Feb 17 15:25:41 <DeadWeasel>	haha
Feb 17 15:25:48 <DeadWeasel>	they sold the same coins 3 time is what they did
Feb 17 15:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	people continue to believe that coders are enough.
Feb 17 15:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like thinking all moon landing needs is some riveters and welders.
Feb 17 15:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0 hitler finds out he's really a 13yo faggoty kid.
Feb 17 15:28:33 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: I cant buy shares if they're not for sale.
Feb 17 15:29:17 <EskimoBob>	Are you really that stupid Diablo-D3. I told you "at price you sold this shit to me"
Feb 17 15:29:24 <EskimoBob>	is that really hard to understand?
Feb 17 15:29:33 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: yes. then put them on the exchange for that price.
Feb 17 15:29:59 <Diablo-D3>	you're being difficult intentionally.
Feb 17 15:29:59 <EskimoBob>	what for? it 12x over the current ask
Feb 17 15:30:06 <Diablo-D3>	yes, 12x over the current ask.
Feb 17 15:30:13 <Diablo-D3>	or whatever is appropriate
Feb 17 15:30:26 <Diablo-D3>	the buy back program will eventually reach that point
Feb 17 15:31:16 <EskimoBob>	lets make it easy, you transfer the coin and I'll send you the shares. An not in "10 years". Today is fine by me.
Feb 17 15:31:23 <Diablo-D3>	nope.
Feb 17 15:31:33 <Diablo-D3>	the only people who get to cut in line are those who want the least for their shares.
Feb 17 15:31:59 <jurov>	*puts popcorn in microwave*
Feb 17 15:32:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:32:38 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: you managed to fuck up DMC and now you are asking coin for 2.0, why you can not even describe your business, your clients, value you think you will be offering? Really?
Feb 17 15:33:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.089 = 0.178 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:35:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:35:17 <EskimoBob>	;;bc, convert eur
Feb 17 15:35:18 <gribble>	Error: "bc," is not a valid command.
Feb 17 15:35:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.02091 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:36:02 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 17 15:36:03 <gribble>	1 BTC = 26.79001 U.S. dollars = 20.0254223 Euros
Feb 17 15:36:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.02092 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:36:57 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: you do realize DMC was making a profit before nefario fucked it all up, right?
Feb 17 15:38:27 <OgNasty>	Nefario just exposed the scams.
Feb 17 15:38:28 <EskimoBob>	dud, not that crap again :)
Feb 17 15:38:37 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: yeah, his own
Feb 17 15:38:40 <OgNasty>	He didn't stop anyone from doing business.
Feb 17 15:38:43 <EskimoBob>	and yours Diablo-D3
Feb 17 15:38:58 <OgNasty>	Had you been invested in legitimate offerings, nothing bad would have happened.
Feb 17 15:39:33 <OgNasty>	the asset issuers that had outrageous terms or just disappeared, preventing you from getting back your BTC were scams that have been exposed.  Nothing more.
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Feb 17 15:39:44 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: remember, I only invested in glbse assets that nefario claimed to have vetted
Feb 17 15:39:55 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: nefario then backpeddled and said he never claimed any such thing
Feb 17 15:39:58 <OgNasty>	vetting doesn't mean foolproof
Feb 17 15:40:08 <OgNasty>	who cares if they were vetted or not
Feb 17 15:40:17 <Diablo-D3>	no it doesnt, but apparently trusting the exchange over isnt foolproof either
Feb 17 15:40:18 <OgNasty>	scammers can get vetted, obviously.
Feb 17 15:40:26 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow, dmc 2.0 has a new rule
Feb 17 15:40:32 <Diablo-D3>	no investing in BTC companies. period.
Feb 17 15:40:38 <ThickAsThieves>	Diablo, these dudes be trolling
Feb 17 15:40:48 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: yes they are, and the only way to fight trolls is with facts
Feb 17 15:40:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0065 = 0.0325 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:41:02 <ThickAsThieves>	that's also how you feed them
Feb 17 15:41:04 <midnightmagic>	Diablo-D3: Which also unfortunately doubles as a kind of food.
Feb 17 15:41:10 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Feb 17 15:41:21 <OgNasty>	I'm not trolling.  I'm just fascinated why someone who ran a fund into the ground wants to start a new one.  You're losing people's money claiming to be good at investments and you're obviously terrible.
Feb 17 15:41:29 <OgNasty>	That's messed up dude.  Find another niche.
Feb 17 15:41:29 <davos>	the only way to fight trolls is to punch oneself in the face
Feb 17 15:41:37 <EskimoBob>	sure, hide behind "trolling" every time someone ask you a serious question you can not answer
Feb 17 15:41:53 <EskimoBob>	davos: hit yourself then
Feb 17 15:42:03 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs.
Feb 17 15:42:09 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: except I never ran it into the ground
Feb 17 15:42:18 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: if all things go accordingly during the shutdown, we break even
Feb 17 15:42:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:42:31 <OgNasty>	if if was a spliff your investors would all be high
Feb 17 15:42:31 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: its EskimoBob trying to glue together numbers that dont belong together that is claiming this
Feb 17 15:42:49 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: from 1 BTC to 0.03 ... is that not low enough?
Feb 17 15:42:51 <OgNasty>	but it aint. this is real life.  don't play with people's money and pretend to know what you're doing if you don't.
Feb 17 15:42:51 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Feb 17 15:43:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00654498 = 1.9635 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:43:16 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: that number implies everyone paid at 1.
Feb 17 15:43:20 <Diablo-D3>	everyone didnt.
Feb 17 15:43:23 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: you DID NOT have a split so going from on or 0.6 to close to nothing is fucked up
Feb 17 15:43:26 <OgNasty>	I didn't invest a penny with you, because it was obvious what you and usagi and goat were all up to...
Feb 17 15:43:37 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: except usagi nor goat was part of dmc
Feb 17 15:43:46 <Diablo-D3>	and I still dont know what usagi and goat were up to
Feb 17 15:43:56 <EskimoBob>	OgNasty: I was stupid enough to buy some of that crap :)
Feb 17 15:43:59 <OgNasty>	I just wonder how much longer the community will let people get away with passing off investments that are nothing more than someone funding their silk road habits.
Feb 17 15:44:12 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: aaand now you've shifted into trolling
Feb 17 15:44:34 <EskimoBob>	now?
Feb 17 15:44:39 <EskimoBob>	so what was it before?
Feb 17 15:44:44 <Diablo-D3>	just being an ass.
Feb 17 15:45:07 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Feb 17 15:45:08 <Diablo-D3>	midnightmagic, ThickAsThieves: btw, you missed my earlier update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1534415#msg1534415
Feb 17 15:45:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00068 = 0.0034 BTC [-]
Feb 17 15:45:34 <OgNasty>	It just pisses me off that investment money that could be going to people making a real difference and providing the community with things is ending up in the hands of those who do nothing but leech the community.
Feb 17 15:45:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i saw that one, but this was all a bit before my time
Feb 17 15:45:45 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: yes, that pisses me off too
Feb 17 15:45:58 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: if the DMC IPO would have completed, BTC would be $1000 by now
Feb 17 15:46:05 <EskimoBob>	DLOL
Feb 17 15:46:05 <OgNasty>	if
Feb 17 15:46:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i see at as, in the past some shit went down, but Diablo wants to keep his name respectable so he's doing what he can to make things right
Feb 17 15:46:19 <ThickAsThieves>	sounds fine to me
Feb 17 15:46:22 <OgNasty>	everytime you use the word if, just hit the delete button and rethink your argument.
Feb 17 15:46:26 <EskimoBob>	if, but, maybe, should could would etc
Feb 17 15:46:28 <midnightmagic>	OgNasty: It amuses me when people call the bitcoin users a "community".
Feb 17 15:46:34 <Diablo-D3>	nefarios actions made me realize that what he was doing was illegal, he was giving out illegal advice
Feb 17 15:46:37 <ThickAsThieves>	if that makes people lose trust in Diablo in new ventures, just shut up and dont buy in
Feb 17 15:46:54 <EskimoBob>	nefario had NOTHING to do with your "business" Diablo-D3. NOTHING!
Feb 17 15:47:01 <OgNasty>	midnightmagic: I refer to bitcointalk as the community.
Feb 17 15:47:07 <EskimoBob>	stop using that to excuse your incompetence
Feb 17 15:47:09 <OgNasty>	That is where they peddle their "investments"
Feb 17 15:47:10 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: he claimed he had a legally registered exchange in the UK.
Feb 17 15:47:12 <Diablo-D3>	he didnt.
Feb 17 15:47:16 <EskimoBob>	so?
Feb 17 15:47:32 <ThickAsThieves>	the bitcoin assets and otc are certainly a community
Feb 17 15:47:35 <midnightmagic>	OgNasty: Gah, even worse. :)
Feb 17 15:47:35 <dub>	in that case all the community needs is a bunch of bullets
Feb 17 15:47:37 <EskimoBob>	you wher building a fkn mining farm
Feb 17 15:47:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.00068 = 0.0061 BTC [-]
Feb 17 15:47:52 <Diablo-D3>	infact, its very hard to get an exchange going AND the amount of paperwork to get a company to go public is immense
Feb 17 15:48:03 <Diablo-D3>	something nefario also lied about
Feb 17 15:48:06 <EskimoBob>	but what you did -  you traded DMC shares for shit and ended up losing 98% of the share price
Feb 17 15:48:16 <EskimoBob>	how many fkn times do w have to go over this?
Feb 17 15:48:17 <dub>	EskimoBob: no he wasnt? he was raising a million btc to start building a mining farm
Feb 17 15:48:23 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: yes, but I didnt lose 98% of the _money_
Feb 17 15:48:34 <dub>	if you thought that was a sane investment thats your problem
Feb 17 15:48:37 <OgNasty>	whoever controlled the money lost it...
Feb 17 15:48:38 <EskimoBob>	dub: OH, I am sorry :)
Feb 17 15:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00654498 = 2.618 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:48:44 <OgNasty>	it appears that was you
Feb 17 15:48:57 <OgNasty>	that's how you know you shouldn't handle other people's money
Feb 17 15:48:58 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: before continuing, read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1534415#msg1534415
Feb 17 15:49:23 <DeadWeasel>	it's the people that shouldn't send it to him.
Feb 17 15:49:24 <EskimoBob>	a fkn farce
Feb 17 15:49:41 <DeadWeasel>	if he gets rich off their ignorance, fuck it.
Feb 17 15:49:55 <DeadWeasel>	expecting people to be honest in business is dumb.
Feb 17 15:49:58 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: hey now, I never made a dime off this.
Feb 17 15:50:07 <Diablo-D3>	I think I really was the only honest one here.
Feb 17 15:50:21 <OgNasty>	D3: I understand what happened.  You made terrible investments.  I'm not saying you should burn.  I'm saying you should stop taking other people's money because it's been proven you're terrible at it.
Feb 17 15:50:24 <DeadWeasel>	probably, i realize you are paying back, i'm just trying to direct these people's anger
Feb 17 15:50:30 <DeadWeasel>	so misplaced.
Feb 17 15:50:44 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: except the only outright failure of an investment is BTC-MINING.
Feb 17 15:50:46 <EskimoBob>	what is even more funny, you fuckwit are going back to exact same game plan and buying mining turds ... HEEEELLLLPPP!
Feb 17 15:50:46 <OgNasty>	same goes to usagi, goat, giga, and everyone else who completely crashed their holdings when GLBSE went down and still clings to that defense.
Feb 17 15:51:03 <Diablo-D3>	er, why are you putting giga in there?
Feb 17 15:51:06 <Diablo-D3>	he actually owns a farm
Feb 17 15:51:14 <DeadWeasel>	i have a farm, on hay day
Feb 17 15:51:20 <DeadWeasel>	i just got pigs.
Feb 17 15:51:30 <DeadWeasel>	doopy doo.
Feb 17 15:51:43 <OgNasty>	giga took people's money and won't give it back unless you jump through hoops.  he's using glbse going down to take people's money
Feb 17 15:51:46 <EskimoBob>	DeadWeasel: and dogs and a horse
Feb 17 15:51:59 <EskimoBob>	indeed.
Feb 17 15:51:59 <OgNasty>	giga never owned the hardware behind the bonds he sold.
Feb 17 15:52:00 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: yes, you have to now comply with US Federal law
Feb 17 15:52:01 <DeadWeasel>	not yet.  i can't find enough wood planks to upgrade my silo
Feb 17 15:52:10 <OgNasty>	he sold perpetual bonds that are now expiring...
Feb 17 15:52:10 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: giga got trapped the way I did.
Feb 17 15:52:21 <OgNasty>	trapped behind an easy excuse.
Feb 17 15:52:24 <OgNasty>	that is all
Feb 17 15:52:32 <Diablo-D3>	at least Im ignoring it and buying back the shares
Feb 17 15:52:35 <EskimoBob>	hold on.. now you are going all "lgal" on us too, Diablo-D3 ?
Feb 17 15:52:44 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: nice try, failtroll
Feb 17 15:53:09 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: what Im trying to say is, giga did something ELSE wrong
Feb 17 15:53:10 <EskimoBob>	that trolling card... so soon?
Feb 17 15:53:24 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: goat and usagi sold shares into assets that didnt exist and may have never existed
Feb 17 15:53:32 <OgNasty>	yes, as did giga
Feb 17 15:53:42 <EskimoBob>	giga found a way to fuck loads of pople out of their coin and look all clean and proper
Feb 17 15:53:45 <Diablo-D3>	giga had assets of his own and was also selling upgrades into the asset
Feb 17 15:54:00 <OgNasty>	giga never owned enough hashing power to back gigamining
Feb 17 15:54:06 <EskimoBob>	That beady eyed fuck from Florida :)
Feb 17 15:54:07 <Diablo-D3>	Im not sure if he did or not
Feb 17 15:54:09 <OgNasty>	fact
Feb 17 15:54:24 <OgNasty>	that is why I'm not saying D3 is a scammer
Feb 17 15:54:30 <OgNasty>	D3 didn't do anything scammy.
Feb 17 15:54:39 <OgNasty>	He just apparently is TERRIBLE with money.
Feb 17 15:55:01 <DeadWeasel>	haha, wackadoos.  the lot of us.
Feb 17 15:55:07 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: its not that Im terrible iwth it, its that I believed people in bitcoin wanted to leave all the scammy wall street shit behind
Feb 17 15:55:07 <OgNasty>	SO STOP GIVING HIM YOUR MONEY and it's problem solved.  By continuing to take investment D3, you are being dishonest about your abilities to the community at the very least.
Feb 17 15:55:07 <EskimoBob>	D3 is just an idiot. Probably a good programmer but a total ass with business
Feb 17 15:55:40 <mjr_>	omg gosh
Feb 17 15:55:44 <mjr_>	that was quite a big moce
Feb 17 15:55:45 <mjr_>	move
Feb 17 15:55:48 <OgNasty>	believing obvious scams and investing in them = terrible with money
Feb 17 15:55:50 <OgNasty>	hello?
Feb 17 15:55:59 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: I never invested in any of these obvious scams
Feb 17 15:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066187 = 2.8599 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:56:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.02092 = 0.1883 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:56:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066192 = 2.8602 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:56:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 250 @ 0.02092 = 5.23 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:56:09 <OgNasty>	didn't you say you owned usagi funds?
Feb 17 15:56:09 <Diablo-D3>	not a dime of DMC money went to bfl or bitcoinica
Feb 17 15:56:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7158 @ 0.00066206 = 4.739 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:56:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7158 @ 0.00066206 = 4.739 BTC [+]
Feb 17 15:56:12 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: nope
Feb 17 15:56:16 <Diablo-D3>	never invested in usagi either
Feb 17 15:56:17 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: so where did all the coin go?
Feb 17 15:56:26 <Diablo-D3>	infact usagi supposidly owned a lot of dmc shares
Feb 17 15:56:27 <EskimoBob>	was 0.6, now is 0,03
Feb 17 15:56:32 <EskimoBob>	where is it?
Feb 17 15:56:38 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: I already answered that in full
Feb 17 15:56:49 <Diablo-D3>	you just dont like the answer because you have to wait longer than everyone else.
Feb 17 15:57:05 <OgNasty>	where is it?  is a simple question.
Feb 17 15:57:11 <OgNasty>	it deserves a simple answer
Feb 17 15:57:21 <OgNasty>	"I lost it with bad investments."  would be a simple answer
Feb 17 15:57:22 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: did you read the forum post I told you to read?
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Feb 17 15:57:39 <OgNasty>	simple answer is what I'm looking for
Feb 17 15:57:51 <OgNasty>	I don't even care to be honest.
Feb 17 15:58:19 <OgNasty>	I just am fascinated by the whole concept of failed asset issuers continuing to operate freely without being constantly flamed for it.
Feb 17 15:58:21 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: between 1691 and 1966 BTC went in, 1015 BTC of shares have been bought back, 90 BTC of dividends have been paid, we still hold between 507 and 1212 in assets
Feb 17 15:58:31 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: its all detailed in that forum post
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Feb 17 15:59:03 <OgNasty>	so then why are you closing?
Feb 17 15:59:13 <OgNasty>	if you have all the funds, what went horribly wrong?
Feb 17 15:59:15 <Diablo-D3>	Im not, I want to buy the shares back because they're not legal.
Feb 17 15:59:27 <Diablo-D3>	what went horribly wrong is nefario lied about legality of public shares
Feb 17 15:59:33 <OgNasty>	so then sell your assets and put up a huge bid wall
Feb 17 15:59:38 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: basically I am
Feb 17 15:59:58 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: asicminer and btcmc cant be sold yet
Feb 17 16:00:10 <Diablo-D3>	and btc-mining, the third and last asset, is the only asset of ours that went south
Feb 17 16:00:25 <OgNasty>	I was only talking smack because I thought you were continuing to take investments.
Feb 17 16:00:30 <Diablo-D3>	no, Im not
Feb 17 16:00:38 <Diablo-D3>	I cant take investments until the shares have been bought back.
Feb 17 16:00:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00068 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
Feb 17 16:01:05 <OgNasty>	So you want to buy them all back to resell them?
Feb 17 16:01:08 <Diablo-D3>	no.
Feb 17 16:01:28 <Diablo-D3>	Im going to issue zero coupon OID corporate bonds issued by a legally registered corporation in the US.
Feb 17 16:01:52 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: my shares are waiting your "Buyback" in that GLBSE 2.0 you have it listed
Feb 17 16:02:05 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: yes, a lot of people's shares are waiting.
Feb 17 16:02:17 <Diablo-D3>	EskimoBob: if this could have been done overnight, I would have already.
Feb 17 16:02:45 <OgNasty>	shoulda bought https://nastyfans.org seats instead :P
Feb 17 16:03:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064422 = 2.7837 BTC [-]
Feb 17 16:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11543 @ 0.00064388 = 7.4323 BTC [-]
Feb 17 16:03:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1645 @ 0.00064368 = 1.0589 BTC [-]
Feb 17 16:03:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3153 @ 0.00064344 = 2.0288 BTC [-]
Feb 17 16:03:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 788 @ 0.00064262 = 0.5064 BTC [-]
Feb 17 16:04:55 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: btw, worst case DMC owes 861 and only has 507 in assets, best case DMC owes 586 and has 1212 in assets.
Feb 17 16:05:04 <Diablo-D3>	OgNasty: I imagine its going to be about even when it finally comes down to it
Feb 17 16:06:06 <OgNasty>	Breaktime over... back to work I go.
Feb 17 16:06:13 <EskimoBob>	So, few more hours and it's new week ... week 08
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Feb 17 16:06:45 <EskimoBob>	my kiln will arrive
Feb 17 16:07:06 <EskimoBob>	I bet they used mules to transport that damn thing
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Feb 17 16:13:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4185 @ 0.00066206 = 2.7707 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:13:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1599 @ 0.00066273 = 1.0597 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3046 @ 0.00066274 = 2.0187 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:15:56 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 17 16:15:57 <gribble>	1 BTC = 27.02421 U.S. dollars = 20.2004859 Euros
Feb 17 16:18:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4254 @ 0.00066274 = 2.8193 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:18:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066297 = 2.8647 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18975 @ 0.00066298 = 12.58 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:20:18 <jurov>	<3 s.mpoe these days... selling at 66, buying at 64
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Feb 17 16:37:02 <mjr_>	i know
Feb 17 16:37:06 <mjr_>	it is crazy
Feb 17 16:37:14 <mjr_>	crossed quotes sitting there for like 15 minutes
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Feb 17 16:45:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00066276 = 3.3138 BTC [-]
Feb 17 16:45:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066277 = 2.8638 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006629 = 2.8644 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23033 @ 0.00066298 = 15.2704 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00066325 = 12.8007 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:45:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00066449 = 7.2429 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 16:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6364 @ 0.00066508 = 4.2326 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:49:59 <jurov>	just noticed the wall at 0.0007 is now only 4885088 high? since when?
Feb 17 16:55:24 <dub>	09-02-13-06:23<assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1811173 @ 0.0007 = 1267.8211 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:55:27 <dub>	?
Feb 17 16:56:01 <jurov>	well.. missed it
Feb 17 16:57:46 *	jurov dreams the wall will sublimate unnoticed and his order to sell at 0.01 will suddenly get hit :D
Feb 17 16:59:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11836 @ 0.00066356 = 7.8539 BTC [-]
Feb 17 16:59:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00066683 = 15.6705 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00066733 = 4.8715 BTC [+]
Feb 17 16:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00066852 = 12.0334 BTC [+]
Feb 17 17:00:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00066869 = 7.1215 BTC [+]
Feb 17 17:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5858 @ 0.00066907 = 3.9194 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 17:12:11 <EskimoBob>	Diablo-D3: posted something for your new 2.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1535149#msg1535149 ;)
Feb 17 17:12:44 <EskimoBob>	feel free to copy this to a new (2.0!) DMC thread
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Feb 17 17:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2004 @ 0.00066907 = 1.3408 BTC [+]
Feb 17 17:42:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1346 @ 0.00066974 = 0.9015 BTC [+]
Feb 17 17:43:40 <swhitt>	I'm 10 btc short on a transaction and waiting on gox for another 3 days, can anyone sell me 10 btc via BoA transfer?
Feb 17 17:50:24 <truffles>	no
Feb 17 17:51:04 *	copumpkin eats truffles
Feb 17 17:52:27 <truffles>	ohhh not there
Feb 17 17:53:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00632331 = 1.897 BTC [-]
Feb 17 17:56:56 <jurov>	BoA does btc transfers?
Feb 17 18:00:24 *	Lyspooner makes it happen
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Feb 17 18:04:13 <mjr_>	what price swhitt?
Feb 17 18:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00066973 = 1.3395 BTC [-]
Feb 17 18:04:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00066974 = 12.3902 BTC [+]
Feb 17 18:04:22 <mjr_>	oh wait never mind
Feb 17 18:04:51 <swhitt>	sorry, I'm only looking for 5 btc now
Feb 17 18:05:11 <swhitt>	~$140
Feb 17 18:09:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 95 @ 0.0099 = 0.9405 BTC [+]
Feb 17 18:11:14 <FabianB_>	swhitt: you should ask in #bitcoin-otc instead
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Feb 17 18:20:28 <wao>	,,ticker
Feb 17 18:20:35 <wao>	;;ticker
Feb 17 18:20:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.81004, Best ask: 26.98899, Bid-ask spread: 0.17895, Last trade: 26.81004, 24 hour volume: 76982.57348597, 24 hour low: 25.00000, 24 hour high: 27.39989, 24 hour vwap: 26.39660
Feb 17 18:22:10 <truffles>	going in wrong direction for me
Feb 17 18:27:39 <wao>	whats the rite
Feb 17 18:29:24 <truffles>	10usd
Feb 17 18:38:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 24 @ 0.0065 = 0.156 BTC [+]
Feb 17 18:40:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
Feb 17 18:42:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1 @ 0.0019649 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 18:44:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1 @ 0.0019649 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 18:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1 @ 0.0019649 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 18:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0063233 = 1.897 BTC [-]
Feb 17 19:03:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0065 = 0.065 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 19:10:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 19:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065408 = 2.8263 BTC [-]
Feb 17 19:16:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065398 = 2.8258 BTC [-]
Feb 17 19:16:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5377 @ 0.00065383 = 3.5156 BTC [-]
Feb 17 19:22:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0063233 = 0.6323 BTC [-]
Feb 17 19:29:00 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Feb 17 19:29:03 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221757 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 2 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 15 minutes and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3654931.77282 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.58514
Feb 17 19:29:09 <dub>	;;bc,diffchange
Feb 17 19:29:16 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 11.5851408626 % based on data since last change | 31.9570583479 % based on data for last three days
Feb 17 19:29:24 <dub>	nplz
Feb 17 19:29:48 <pigeons>	;;estimate
Feb 17 19:29:49 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 3654931.77282 based on data since last change | 4322206.71566 based on data for last three days
Feb 17 19:30:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065393 = 2.8256 BTC [+]
Feb 17 19:30:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2779 @ 0.00065383 = 1.817 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 19:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3944 @ 0.00065383 = 2.5787 BTC [-]
Feb 17 19:41:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065283 = 2.8209 BTC [-]
Feb 17 19:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 335 @ 0.00065282 = 0.2187 BTC [-]
Feb 17 19:56:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0063233 = 0.6323 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 20:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1569 @ 0.000655 = 1.0277 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 20:12:32 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Feb 17 20:12:35 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221765 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 2010 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 11 hours, 15 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10464702.0526 | Estimated Percent Change: 186.62473
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Feb 17 20:19:38 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Feb 17 20:19:39 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 51 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0 hitler finds out he's really a 13yo faggoty kid.
Feb 17 20:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 486 @ 0.00613006 = 2.9792 BTC [-]
Feb 17 20:37:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065416 = 2.8266 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 20:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7379 @ 0.00065418 = 4.8272 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 20:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00065418 = 3.827 BTC [+]
Feb 17 20:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10358 @ 0.00065418 = 6.776 BTC [+]
Feb 17 20:42:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 373 @ 0.00065519 = 0.2444 BTC [+]
Feb 17 20:49:44 <thestringpuller>	breaking news walletbit sucks
Feb 17 20:50:04 <Namworld>	We at BitVPS use BitPay
Feb 17 20:50:39 <kakobrekla>	dont you take btcs direclty?
Feb 17 20:51:12 <Namworld>	Not anymore, too much price volatility, clients were being charged different recurring rates for the same services.
Feb 17 20:51:29 <kakobrekla>	hm
Feb 17 20:51:31 <Namworld>	Now they have fixed USD invoices they can pay with BitPay and conversion is handled on the fly.
Feb 17 20:51:45 <Namworld>	It seemed more fair that way.
Feb 17 20:52:20 <kakobrekla>	hm
Feb 17 20:52:28 <kakobrekla>	so to pay the divs you buy back btc ?
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Feb 17 20:57:20 <usagi>	DeadWeasel: It's happening..
Feb 17 20:57:47 <usagi>	technical break will be confirmed in just 2 hrs from now
Feb 17 20:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0062 = 0.62 BTC [+]
Feb 17 20:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 14 @ 0.0063233 = 0.0885 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:01:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1134 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:05:40 <dub>	wats happening
Feb 17 21:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2752 @ 0.00065513 = 1.8029 BTC [-]
Feb 17 21:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065518 = 2.831 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7198 @ 0.00065519 = 4.7161 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 21:13:02 <truffles>	whats happening? usagi will be providing pics
Feb 17 21:13:21 <truffles>	of his "sword"
Feb 17 21:13:32 <dub>	of what? rabbit cockvagina I hope
Feb 17 21:14:01 <dub>	cue MP with a dtng link
Feb 17 21:14:29 <truffles>	nah he has me blocked
Feb 17 21:15:10 <truffles>	u ever have a time where u just wanna munch munch munch?
Feb 17 21:15:23 *	truffles wants pizza
Feb 17 21:19:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2869 @ 0.00065519 = 1.8797 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:20:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0063233 = 1.897 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:23:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065962 = 2.8502 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1188 @ 0.00065963 = 0.7836 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 21:28:14 <truffles>	is this mp's channel? i know that being unlikable isnt a kickable trait now heh
Feb 17 21:28:29 <dub>	it is not
Feb 17 21:28:46 <truffles>	k
Feb 17 21:29:42 <truffles>	i will have to take it all as a bit of a joke cuz some of his energy comes from the type of thing i figured bitcoiners werent in favor of
Feb 17 21:30:22 <truffles>	not the blocking me portion
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Feb 17 21:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10912 @ 0.00065963 = 7.1979 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:31:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3343 @ 0.00065991 = 2.2061 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4895 @ 0.00066234 = 3.2422 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:35:33 <pigeons>	coal? nuclear?
Feb 17 21:36:20 <dub>	the dark side
Feb 17 21:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4528 @ 0.00066234 = 2.9991 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6672 @ 0.00066841 = 4.4596 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:36:43 <truffles>	id like to be able to fly on those gliders
Feb 17 21:36:52 <Bugpowder>	up up up
Feb 17 21:36:59 <truffles>	euphoria
Feb 17 21:38:04 <truffles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPQ_M3yJTA
Feb 17 21:38:36 <truffles>	why doesnt this channel have a lobsterman
Feb 17 21:38:38 <Namworld>	kakobrekla: no, we keep everything in BTC
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Feb 17 21:43:54 <DeadWeasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144447.msg1535569#msg1535569
Feb 17 21:44:00 <DeadWeasel>	all fixed, got my coinz for coinbase.
Feb 17 21:44:05 <DeadWeasel>	3.5 days later
Feb 17 21:44:08 <DeadWeasel>	well, 3
Feb 17 21:44:24 <truffles>	justlike a bank
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Feb 17 21:49:22 <DeadWeasel>	no doubt
Feb 17 21:53:56 <truffles>	banks guarantee up to 100k though
Feb 17 21:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1628 @ 0.00066841 = 1.0882 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1072 @ 0.0006698 = 0.718 BTC [+]
Feb 17 21:55:55 <Bugpowder>	250K
Feb 17 21:56:02 <Bugpowder>	not 100k
Feb 17 21:56:19 <truffles>	ok
Feb 17 21:56:50 <truffles>	not that i have either amount just saying
Feb 17 22:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4181 @ 0.0006698 = 2.8004 BTC [+]
Feb 17 22:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1669 @ 0.00067132 = 1.1204 BTC [+]
Feb 17 22:04:29 <DeadWeasel>	FDIC insurance went down recently, lemme check
Feb 17 22:05:31 <DeadWeasel>	http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/changes.html
Feb 17 22:05:58 <DeadWeasel>	expired on dec 31, 2012.  don't knwo what it is now
Feb 17 22:06:39 <DeadWeasel>	http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/
Feb 17 22:06:42 <truffles>	well wants banks start charing fee for checking accts its gonna get ugly
Feb 17 22:06:44 <DeadWeasel>	can't deciper their doublespeak
Feb 17 22:07:00 <truffles>	not clicking that
Feb 17 22:08:54 <Bugpowder>	its 250k now
Feb 17 22:09:15 <Bugpowder>	for a few years it was unlimited for things like your checking account
Feb 17 22:09:23 <Bugpowder>	250k per bank
Feb 17 22:09:33 <DeadWeasel>	ok, good to know.
Feb 17 22:09:34 <Bugpowder>	so you just gotta spread the money around
Feb 17 22:09:42 <DeadWeasel>	as soon as I get it.
Feb 17 22:09:48 <truffles>	lol
Feb 17 22:10:03 <truffles>	more money more probs
Feb 17 22:10:05 <DeadWeasel>	I'll bury it in the gorund in the form of guns, tools, metals, bullets, and seed.
Feb 17 22:10:16 <DeadWeasel>	gorund - ground
Feb 17 22:10:57 <truffles>	might be rules about seeds
Feb 17 22:11:16 <DeadWeasel>	not pot seeds, truffles.
Feb 17 22:11:19 <DeadWeasel>	well, a few maybe.
Feb 17 22:11:22 <DeadWeasel>	food seeds.
Feb 17 22:11:29 <truffles>	coming to monsanto soon?
Feb 17 22:11:37 <DeadWeasel>	oh, isee.
Feb 17 22:12:01 <truffles>	they have like the most bad press of all time, theyre going strong
Feb 17 22:12:03 <truffles>	so weird
Feb 17 22:12:22 <DeadWeasel>	profit, divs
Feb 17 22:12:24 <DeadWeasel>	nobody cares
Feb 17 22:12:42 <truffles>	def wouldnt wanna eat shit from them
Feb 17 22:12:45 <truffles>	rather eat shit rly
Feb 17 22:12:50 <DeadWeasel>	jesus christ, why am I so stressed out that I am about to do a SR buy?  wtf is wrong with me?
Feb 17 22:12:56 <DeadWeasel>	i should know better
Feb 17 22:13:10 <truffles>	short run?
Feb 17 22:13:21 <DeadWeasel>	it's a distinct possiblity
Feb 17 22:13:47 <DeadWeasel>	if i understand your short run comment
Feb 17 22:13:52 <DeadWeasel>	it would be short.
Feb 17 22:14:03 <truffles>	SR u said
Feb 17 22:14:08 <DeadWeasel>	yeah, i did.
Feb 17 22:14:11 <DeadWeasel>	you got me then
Feb 17 22:14:17 <truffles>	no u
Feb 17 22:14:24 <truffles>	what is SR?
Feb 17 22:14:26 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ReX2Se64vPM
Feb 17 22:14:31 <DeadWeasel>	fuck me stupid, the silk road, my bad
Feb 17 22:14:44 <truffles>	oh bitcoin speak
Feb 17 22:14:50 <DeadWeasel>	whats a hoon?
Feb 17 22:15:18 <usagi>	truffles what are you talking about lol
Feb 17 22:15:21 <truffles>	oh i think ive seen that guy
Feb 17 22:15:23 <DeadWeasel>	that's pretty good.
Feb 17 22:15:25 <truffles>	poker dude
Feb 17 22:15:31 <DeadWeasel>	I don't drive in that condittion
Feb 17 22:15:41 <DeadWeasel>	this is a good vid
Feb 17 22:15:54 <truffles>	he drinks shit load
Feb 17 22:15:58 <DeadWeasel>	apparently
Feb 17 22:16:18 <DeadWeasel>	andhow, place order, don't place, order, who knows?
Feb 17 22:16:22 <truffles>	there is a whole thing where he drinks 30? beers staying up all night
Feb 17 22:16:49 <truffles>	chugs like 3 in a row
Feb 17 22:16:50 <truffles>	hehe
Feb 17 22:16:57 <dub>	;;ud hoon
Feb 17 22:16:58 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hoon | 1. To travel at speed in a confined area, or do burnouts on a public road in traffic . . 2. To show off in a dagerous manner, mostly with a vehicle ...
Feb 17 22:17:09 <DeadWeasel>	hoon, thank u
Feb 17 22:17:26 <usagi>	DeadWeasel if you're still interested here's the charts for this morning and my analysis: http://kongzi.ca/silver/20130218TSR.pdf
Feb 17 22:17:54 <DeadWeasel>	thanks!
Feb 17 22:18:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7081 @ 0.00065793 = 4.6588 BTC [-]
Feb 17 22:18:36 <usagi>	Just remember no one can predict the future, past performance is not a crystal ball hehe
Feb 17 22:18:59 <truffles>	do ppl in finance believe that though
Feb 17 22:19:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 123 @ 0.00067 = 0.0824 BTC [-]
Feb 17 22:19:00 <Chaang-Noi>	man the forum seems to be slow as fuck around this time
Feb 17 22:19:09 <DeadWeasel>	no doubt, i don't take much of any speculation seriously.
Feb 17 22:20:22 <copumpkin>	only I can predict the future
Feb 17 22:20:24 <DeadWeasel>	but i do like to hear it and take it all in, in case my subconcious picks up on something
Feb 17 22:20:34 <usagi>	yes thats the ticket
Feb 17 22:20:42 <Bugpowder>	"For more than a century, the silver price has correlated most closely with a cycle based on the combination of two further statistically significant cycles in silver prices lasting 5.58 years and 31 years, respectively. "
Feb 17 22:20:53 <Bugpowder>	Classic model overfitting right there.
Feb 17 22:21:43 <DeadWeasel>	as i said, i don't take it seriously.  i look at the the historical prices and these models don't have enough history at best.
Feb 17 22:21:51 <DeadWeasel>	although it could fit, we won't know til after
Feb 17 22:22:46 <truffles>	"Could miners collude to give themselves money or fundamentally change the nature of BitCoin? Thread coming"
Feb 17 22:23:38 <truffles>	if i had to choose between mining and things like s.dice def going with the mines
Feb 17 22:23:43 <DeadWeasel>	ok guys, i need sleep.  enjoy your evening.
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Feb 17 22:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00065375 = 0.9153 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 22:31:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 400 @ 0.00068 = 0.272 BTC [+]
Feb 17 22:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00065375 = 1.5036 BTC [-]
Feb 17 22:46:58 <truffles>	"[SOLVED] Is there an easy explanation of how Bitcoin works? A video maybe? " gee only took a week or so to make it
Feb 17 22:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00065662 = 2.4952 BTC [+]
Feb 17 22:47:28 <truffles>	i just recall asking around, no answers ..
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Feb 17 22:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00065375 = 0.406 BTC [-]
Feb 17 22:53:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11125 @ 0.00065374 = 7.2729 BTC [-]
Feb 17 22:55:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0065 BTC [+]
Feb 17 22:56:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065633 = 2.836 BTC [+]
Feb 17 22:56:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10053 @ 0.00065662 = 6.601 BTC [+]
Feb 17 23:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 766 @ 0.00065662 = 0.503 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 23:15:42 <Chaang-Noi>	a person made a bid for .5 for asic shares.. damn...
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Feb 17 23:23:28 <Bugpowder>	illogical
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Feb 17 23:39:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0065 = 0.65 BTC [+]
Feb 17 23:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3976 @ 0.00066712 = 2.6525 BTC [+]
Feb 17 23:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0006672 = 1.3344 BTC [+]
Feb 17 23:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00066721 = 2.7356 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 23:46:20 <Chaang-Noi>	seems high for me as well, but im okay with ,5 lol
Feb 17 23:46:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0065 = 0.013 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 23:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5374 @ 0.00066712 = 3.5851 BTC [-]
Feb 17 23:48:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3976 @ 0.00066312 = 2.6366 BTC [-]
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Feb 17 23:53:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00066721 = 2.8356 BTC [+]
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Feb 17 23:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9695 @ 0.00066312 = 6.4289 BTC [-]
Feb 17 23:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3405 @ 0.00066188 = 2.2537 BTC [-]
Feb 17 23:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1429 @ 0.00066188 = 0.9458 BTC [-]
Feb 17 23:58:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065544 = 2.8322 BTC [-]
Feb 17 23:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00065543 = 1.4092 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 00:13:25 <Chaang-Noi>	lets say bfl and avalon can ship for 2 months or so, and asicminer if nothing else gets 12 th for that time, what is the company worth?
Feb 18 00:13:33 <Chaang-Noi>	like crazy high?
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Feb 18 00:20:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 210 @ 0.00615 = 1.2915 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 00:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00066237 = 1.8215 BTC [+]
Feb 18 00:37:27 <Chaang-Noi>	if asic miner can hold 1/3 of the network for 1 year that is about 400,000 btc or 1 btc per share...
Feb 18 00:39:19 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: 6 months gets us 0.5?
Feb 18 00:39:22 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Feb 18 00:39:29 <Diablo-D3>	did you calculate in diff changes?
Feb 18 00:39:39 <BitHub>	nice chang
Feb 18 00:40:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont need to mess with difficulty if i assume they control 1/3 of the network
Feb 18 00:40:49 <Diablo-D3>	er, right
Feb 18 00:40:51 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Feb 18 00:40:54 <Diablo-D3>	yes you do
Feb 18 00:40:56 <Chaang-Noi>	im not saying they will but with bfl and avalon fail, it might happen
Feb 18 00:41:07 <Diablo-D3>	it changes the final outcome of the total number of blocks
Feb 18 00:41:12 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 i mad an assumption, im not saying this is what will happen
Feb 18 00:41:29 <Diablo-D3>	right now the network is processing far ahead of the norm
Feb 18 00:41:38 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, you are trying to tell me more than 21 million btcs will be made? oh lol
Feb 18 00:41:56 <Diablo-D3>	no
Feb 18 00:42:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i assumed at normal rate, so with my assumtion it will be over 400k,,, its a ball park guess
Feb 18 00:42:12 <Diablo-D3>	Im saying that we're doing blocks a lot faster than every 9 minutes
Feb 18 00:42:21 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, it works as a ballpark guess
Feb 18 00:42:38 <Chaang-Noi>	great, asicminer gets more than 400k awesome, i wont sell my other shares then
Feb 18 00:42:55 <Chaang-Noi>	asic miner get 50% of the network or maybe 5% who knows
Feb 18 00:42:56 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: why do you think I valued asicminer as much as 1btc?
Feb 18 00:43:06 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl i have no trust in... avalon, shipped? yeah right...
Feb 18 00:43:08 <Diablo-D3>	and remember, thats ONLY the asics they have now
Feb 18 00:43:20 <Diablo-D3>	friedcat has already given the goahead to produce the rest of batch 1
Feb 18 00:43:34 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i know, what will happen is asic miner gets the extra 50 th before anyone shipps
Feb 18 00:43:43 <Chaang-Noi>	IF
Feb 18 00:43:51 <Diablo-D3>	bfl wont ship
Feb 18 00:43:56 <Diablo-D3>	and avalon wont really make a dent in shit
Feb 18 00:43:58 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer will ahve like waht 805 of network?
Feb 18 00:44:05 <Chaang-Noi>	80%
Feb 18 00:44:12 <Chaang-Noi>	i think maybe selling at .45 is too low :(
Feb 18 00:44:17 <BitHub>	now they need to sort out the platform for the shares
Feb 18 00:44:25 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: only when everything is done
Feb 18 00:44:33 <Diablo-D3>	he can pay divdends without it, for example
Feb 18 00:44:39 <BitHub>	ya, i guessed that would be the last thing
Feb 18 00:45:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i still gota cash in on the 2000 im selling, i need the money
Feb 18 00:45:44 <BitHub>	nice
Feb 18 00:46:44 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: seeing as you paid 0.10-0.15 for those
Feb 18 00:46:47 <Diablo-D3>	you still made a nice profit
Feb 18 00:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00066576 = 5.8254 BTC [+]
Feb 18 00:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2751 @ 0.00066127 = 1.8192 BTC [-]
Feb 18 00:47:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066689 = 2.8816 BTC [+]
Feb 18 00:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3229 @ 0.00066704 = 2.1539 BTC [+]
Feb 18 00:50:59 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah D3 wish it covered all my losses
Feb 18 00:54:31 <Namworld>	Too much pirate?
Feb 18 00:55:43 <Chaang-Noi>	that did not help...
Feb 18 00:56:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not risk more than i could afford to lose, but it sure sucked
Feb 18 00:57:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9471 @ 0.00066704 = 6.3175 BTC [+]
Feb 18 00:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00066721 = 1.2677 BTC [+]
Feb 18 00:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 732 @ 0.00066869 = 0.4895 BTC [+]
Feb 18 00:58:26 <Diablo-D3>	you know
Feb 18 00:58:29 <Diablo-D3>	in the end
Feb 18 00:58:37 <Diablo-D3>	even though Im smarter than all of you combined
Feb 18 00:58:42 <BitHub>	it doesn't even mattter!!!!!
Feb 18 00:58:44 <Diablo-D3>	bfl and bitcoinica still stole my money
Feb 18 00:58:48 *	BitHub emo cries
Feb 18 00:58:54 <usagi>	you forgot d
Feb 18 00:58:59 <usagi>	i am back now
Feb 18 00:58:59 <Diablo-D3>	shuddup usagi
Feb 18 00:59:03 <Diablo-D3>	Im still better than you
Feb 18 00:59:12 <usagi>	:)
Feb 18 00:59:16 <BitHub>	D3 that sucks, hope you get something back.
Feb 18 00:59:23 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: well, its not mine
Feb 18 00:59:27 <Diablo-D3>	its btcmc's
Feb 18 00:59:39 <Diablo-D3>	except dmc invested in btcmc
Feb 18 00:59:45 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, its not like its all gone
Feb 18 00:59:50 <Diablo-D3>	btcmc still has $25k of hardware
Feb 18 01:00:23 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld, usagi: did either of you read the midmortem?
Feb 18 01:00:31 <usagi>	for DMC?
Feb 18 01:00:41 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Feb 18 01:00:50 <usagi>	I was forced to sell out DMC around 0.35-0.40 to make payments on BMF and NYAN.A.
Feb 18 01:00:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 4 @ 0.00249 = 0.01 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:00:56 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i lost on bitcoinica
Feb 18 01:00:59 <Chaang-Noi>	id love to see that back...
Feb 18 01:01:17 <usagi>	I would have preferred to keep operating but it seems investors decided to vote themselves a loss and prevent me from listing.
Feb 18 01:01:44 <usagi>	All I care about is silver now. And wood ;-)
Feb 18 01:01:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 12 @ 0.00068 = 0.0082 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:01:53 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: DMC prices are probably going to end up being north of 0.20 again before Im done
Feb 18 01:02:04 <usagi>	Yup, I can imagine.
Feb 18 01:02:12 <usagi>	People have no vision and no long term thinking
Feb 18 01:02:37 <Diablo-D3>	I find myself weired out that Im actually agreeing with you.
Feb 18 01:03:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 12 @ 0.0067 = 0.0804 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 01:03:34 <usagi>	Why is that weird? We share the same taste in music, operating systems, and japanese cartoons.
Feb 18 01:04:07 <Diablo-D3>	Yes, but I dont dress up as a japanese princess and pick up guys.
Feb 18 01:04:33 <BitHub>	why not?
Feb 18 01:04:34 <usagi>	See? The coincidences are too much to chalk up to mere random chance
Feb 18 01:04:37 <BitHub>	good way to earn bitcoin
Feb 18 01:04:59 <BitHub>	lul japanese princess
Feb 18 01:05:15 <Diablo-D3>	why not?! well, for one, my unix beard just wouldnt fit with a dress
Feb 18 01:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00632329 = 6.3233 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:05:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 186 @ 0.0063233 = 1.1761 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1746 @ 0.00632331 = 11.0405 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:05:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 12 @ 0.0065 = 0.078 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:06:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:07:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.726 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:07:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.725 = 2.9 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 68 @ 0.00632331 = 0.43 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:08:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.725 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 01:10:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00066524 = 3.3927 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:10:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006616 = 2.8588 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:10:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11879 @ 0.00066127 = 7.8552 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:11:16 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 18 01:11:17 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 4 hours, and 36 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 18 01:13:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.72 = 2.88 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 01:15:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.710001 = 2.13 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:16:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:18:38 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 01:18:41 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221803 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1972 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 6 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4934054.56233 | Estimated Percent Change: 35.14212
Feb 18 01:19:04 <thestringpuller>	seriously why is no one buying futures on the network diff?
Feb 18 01:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066863 = 2.8892 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:21:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6918 @ 0.00066869 = 4.626 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:21:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25161 @ 0.00067132 = 16.8911 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:21:37 <BitHub>	i dont understand them
Feb 18 01:23:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6937 @ 0.00067132 = 4.6569 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 01:25:37 <thestringpuller>	BitHub: it's pretty much a bet on the network difficulty
Feb 18 01:26:03 <thestringpuller>	If ASIC's continue to ship, and more ASIC miners go online the difficulty will go up.
Feb 18 01:26:28 <BitHub>	which one looks good on bitfunder?
Feb 18 01:26:42 <BitHub>	i had a look at a few but couldn't really get my head around it all
Feb 18 01:26:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1320 @ 0.00066127 = 0.8729 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:26:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066075 = 2.8551 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:26:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2524 @ 0.00066074 = 1.6677 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:26:53 <thestringpuller>	there are X.IDIFF.### passthru's on bitfunder?
Feb 18 01:27:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00632331 = 0.6323 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:27:34 <BitHub>	yeah
Feb 18 01:27:36 <Bowjob>	Getting an Asic myself
Feb 18 01:27:43 <BitHub>	nice bow
Feb 18 01:27:43 <Bowjob>	im camping for Avalon no 2
Feb 18 01:27:45 <thestringpuller>	right now the lowest priced X.DIFF is .076 for march
Feb 18 01:28:18 <BitHub>	whats the name string?
Feb 18 01:28:21 <thestringpuller>	given the current bc stats and the fact ASIC's ARE shipping
Feb 18 01:28:33 <Bowjob>	anyone else buying an avalon no 2
Feb 18 01:28:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 18 01:28:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC)
Feb 18 01:29:05 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,diff
Feb 18 01:29:05 <gribble>	3651011.6306932
Feb 18 01:29:23 <thestringpuller>	if the difficulty goes above 8 million it's profit at current prices
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Feb 18 01:30:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00066074 = 2.5769 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:30:44 <thestringpuller>	lol MPEX is so bold 	The only Bitcoin service that has never been hacked.
Feb 18 01:31:04 <Bowjob>	Havelock never got hacked
Feb 18 01:31:43 <thestringpuller>	the egotism spawning from MPEX is likely due to the same reason Kanye interrupts people
Feb 18 01:31:55 <BitHub>	lol stringpuller
Feb 18 01:31:57 <BitHub>	!!!
Feb 18 01:32:00 <Bowjob>	well, mpex delivers, cant deny that
Feb 18 01:32:14 <thestringpuller>	it's also not gangsta or "cool" enough for the masses
Feb 18 01:32:40 <BitHub>	the world really needs a new kanye album right now
Feb 18 01:33:28 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 18 01:33:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.54144, Best ask: 26.59000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04856, Last trade: 26.54144, 24 hour volume: 81500.99570222, 24 hour low: 25.00000, 24 hour high: 27.29997, 24 hour vwap: 26.39157
Feb 18 01:33:33 <Bowjob>	we dropped down
Feb 18 01:35:51 <thestringpuller>	it's going to continue to go up
Feb 18 01:36:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 633 @ 0.00067132 = 0.4249 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067139 = 2.9011 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10840 @ 0.0006714 = 7.278 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74 @ 0.00067152 = 0.0497 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:36:30 <Bowjob>	under the best possible scenarios.. BFL screws up and doesnt ship till Avalon ships their second and third batches
Feb 18 01:36:35 <Bowjob>	I'd lol so hard
Feb 18 01:36:44 <Bowjob>	for me at least
Feb 18 01:37:08 <thestringpuller>	the more pressing issue is the block sizes imo
Feb 18 01:37:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0065 = 0.13 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:38:32 <thestringpuller>	it's also a bit frigtening satoshi dice accounts for some obscene % of tx's
Feb 18 01:39:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.04018 BTC [-]
Feb 18 01:40:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
Feb 18 01:41:05 <Namworld>	I point that to people who point to transactions rising as adoption of bitcoins as one reason price keeps going up.
Feb 18 01:42:04 <Namworld>	It's just SatoshiDice I say. Not adoption. The price is rising because there's 100s of newcomers like you blabling about how they'll become rich.
Feb 18 01:42:16 <thestringpuller>	I'm already rich...
Feb 18 01:42:39 <thestringpuller>	save I'm a dumbass and decide to spend my money on education rather than starting a business
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Feb 18 01:43:07 <Namworld>	Well I was not talking to you, just summing up what I say. I feel like some newcomers will get burned soon enough.
Feb 18 01:43:36 <Bowjob>	We'll be rich omfg
Feb 18 01:44:35 <Namworld>	Maybe in 5-10 years
Feb 18 01:44:38 <thestringpuller>	People get burned by investing in things like Usagi's "insured fund" or DMC or any number of things
Feb 18 01:45:12 <thestringpuller>	you get rich by providing value to society just as it's been done for the past some 5 centuries...
Feb 18 01:45:32 <Namworld>	People will get burned if they keep inflating the BTC price like that. Maybe if they hold a few years, but price will probably deflate in the short term.
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Feb 18 01:46:27 <Chaang-Noi>	diablo-d3 how do i check my 7970 temps in mint?
Feb 18 01:46:42 <Diablo-D3>	the same way you'd normally do it?
Feb 18 01:46:52 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: you're going to troll too?
Feb 18 01:46:57 <Chaang-Noi>	gpu-z ?
Feb 18 01:47:24 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: ALL DA TIME
Feb 18 01:47:26 <Chaang-Noi>	i was not sure if that worked for linux, i guess ill go download it
Feb 18 01:47:31 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: no.
Feb 18 01:47:37 <thestringpuller>	Successfuly people need haters to fuel them into the next level of success
Feb 18 01:47:38 <Diablo-D3>	aticonfig --odgt
Feb 18 01:47:48 <Diablo-D3>	or use amdoverdrivectrl
Feb 18 01:48:14 <Namworld>	I need haters. I never get haters.
Feb 18 01:48:29 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 i dont have a "layout section"
Feb 18 01:48:38 <Namworld>	Why won't people hate me!
Feb 18 01:48:41 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont mine with this, but the fan is going crazy and its hot as fuck, its a 7970
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Feb 18 01:48:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i get haters, lol
Feb 18 01:49:19 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: a what who?
Feb 18 01:49:31 <Diablo-D3>	and the fan should be going crazy
Feb 18 01:49:43 <Diablo-D3>	I use a custom fan curve, and its at 66% atm on a 7970
Feb 18 01:49:49 <Diablo-D3>	at 76c
Feb 18 01:49:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i am running mint, i am not mining but i have a 7970 as a video card, at times the fan goes crazy high 100% and blows a shit load of hot air out
Feb 18 01:49:56 <Chaang-Noi>	im not even mining
Feb 18 01:50:04 <Diablo-D3>	if you're not mining
Feb 18 01:50:04 <Chaang-Noi>	im watching youtube...
Feb 18 01:50:05 <Diablo-D3>	thats normal
Feb 18 01:50:18 <Chaang-Noi>	that is normal to get 100% fan for youtube??
Feb 18 01:51:01 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck... i guess i need to use my 6990 if the 7970 is not powerful enough...
Feb 18 01:51:31 <Diablo-D3>	its powerful enough
Feb 18 01:51:34 <Diablo-D3>	your machine is just fucked up
Feb 18 01:51:39 <Chaang-Noi>	drivers are just fail?
Feb 18 01:51:39 <Diablo-D3>	or your oem did a retarded fancurve
Feb 18 01:51:45 <Diablo-D3>	drivers dont have the fan curve
Feb 18 01:51:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i see
Feb 18 01:51:54 <Diablo-D3>	its in the firmware
Feb 18 01:51:58 <Diablo-D3>	use amdoverdrivectrl
Feb 18 01:52:01 <Chaang-Noi>	why is it so damn hot?
Feb 18 01:52:06 <Diablo-D3>	its not
Feb 18 01:52:09 <Diablo-D3>	what temp is it?
Feb 18 01:52:14 <Diablo-D3>	fan doesnt mean its hot
Feb 18 01:52:18 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know how to check, that is why i asked you
Feb 18 01:52:30 <Chaang-Noi>	but the air is like hair dryer hot that is coming out of it
Feb 18 01:52:31 <Diablo-D3>	why dont you already have amdoverdrivectrl installed?
Feb 18 01:52:44 <Chaang-Noi>	no one told me to
Feb 18 01:52:47 <Chaang-Noi>	im new at linux
Feb 18 01:52:49 <Diablo-D3>	Im telling you now.
Feb 18 01:52:57 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow, open a terminal, type aticonfig --odgt
Feb 18 01:52:59 <Diablo-D3>	thats your temp
Feb 18 01:53:14 <Chaang-Noi>	i did that and i failed, i need that program first
Feb 18 01:53:16 <Chaang-Noi>	how to get?
Feb 18 01:54:18 <Diablo-D3>	it should already be installed with your drivers.
Feb 18 01:54:22 <Diablo-D3>	what distro are you on?
Feb 18 01:54:26 <Chaang-Noi>	mint
Feb 18 01:54:34 <Diablo-D3>	... you do have fglrx installed, right?
Feb 18 01:54:40 <Chaang-Noi>	i have no idea
Feb 18 01:54:48 *	Diablo-D3 facepalms
Feb 18 01:54:52 <Chaang-Noi>	atifonfig --odgt
Feb 18 01:54:54 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck
Feb 18 01:55:55 <Chaang-Noi>	how do i install aticonfig, it is telling me to do that
Feb 18 01:55:59 <Chaang-Noi>	but not how to do it
Feb 18 01:57:29 <Diablo-D3>	go ask the mint people
Feb 18 01:57:33 <Diablo-D3>	I assume you dont even have fglrx installed
Feb 18 01:57:37 <Diablo-D3>	no wonder your card is acting up
Feb 18 01:57:46 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Feb 18 02:01:16 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 mint people seaid to just type "sensors"
Feb 18 02:01:18 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 18 02:03:55 <Diablo-D3>	they are fucking retarded
Feb 18 02:04:01 <Diablo-D3>	ask them how to install fglrx
Feb 18 02:04:15 <Diablo-D3>	they probably have the drivers control panel bullshit from ubuntu
Feb 18 02:05:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2876 @ 0.00066074 = 1.9003 BTC [-]
Feb 18 02:05:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00065642 = 1.7395 BTC [-]
Feb 18 02:05:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065544 = 2.8322 BTC [-]
Feb 18 02:05:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5575 @ 0.00065543 = 3.654 BTC [-]
Feb 18 02:05:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 375 @ 0.00065374 = 0.2452 BTC [-]
Feb 18 02:06:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3203 @ 0.00065282 = 2.091 BTC [-]
Feb 18 02:06:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i think mint is from ubuntu
Feb 18 02:06:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not use ubuntu cuz their fail amazon ads
Feb 18 02:08:42 <thestringpuller>	why not debian?
Feb 18 02:09:33 <Chaang-Noi>	someone said try mint
Feb 18 02:09:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i treid ubuntu, did not like it at all
Feb 18 02:09:53 <Chaang-Noi>	mint seems fine
Feb 18 02:09:57 <Chaang-Noi>	easy to use
Feb 18 02:09:58 <Chaang-Noi>	so far
Feb 18 02:11:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0065 = 0.13 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 02:13:16 <dub>	Chaang-Noi: you rice farming yet?
Feb 18 02:13:44 <dub>	aside from using ubuntu I mean
Feb 18 02:13:55 <Chaang-Noi>	it is not time to plant
Feb 18 02:14:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i know mint is not for the hard core linux people, im new and moving from windows7...
Feb 18 02:14:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i need to adjust
Feb 18 02:18:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065304 = 2.8218 BTC [+]
Feb 18 02:18:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7326 @ 0.00065282 = 4.7826 BTC [-]
Feb 18 02:20:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4286 @ 0.00065282 = 2.798 BTC [-]
Feb 18 02:20:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4124 @ 0.00065113 = 2.6853 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 02:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00065287 = 3.8846 BTC [+]
Feb 18 02:39:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.03001 BTC [-]
Feb 18 02:43:10 <Chaang-Noi>	in linux where is the wallet.dat stored?
Feb 18 02:45:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 197 @ 0.00065568 = 0.1292 BTC [+]
Feb 18 02:45:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1503 @ 0.00065563 = 0.9854 BTC [-]
Feb 18 02:49:09 <Namworld>	I've just noticed that everytime the price starts to fall down on MtGox, a sudden order buys back up to 27...
Feb 18 02:49:42 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Feb 18 02:49:46 <Chaang-Noi>	someone wants all the coins
Feb 18 02:49:46 <Namworld>	Seems like there's downward pressure but someone is preventing it.
Feb 18 02:50:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder if it is a hedge fund, or mt gox minipulation
Feb 18 02:50:45 <Namworld>	I'd go with manipulation. Maybe some large trader who wants prices to stay stable.
Feb 18 02:52:26 <Namworld>	or the mass is so hysteric by now they think a drop is impossible and they see all slight drop as an opportunity...
Feb 18 02:54:13 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Feb 18 02:54:22 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway im happy as a cow with anything over $20
Feb 18 02:55:15 <Namworld>	I was happier when it was much lower.
Feb 18 02:56:55 <Chaang-Noi>	ha
Feb 18 02:57:08 <Chaang-Noi>	need more btc i guess?:)
Feb 18 02:57:15 <Namworld>	Nah
Feb 18 02:57:47 <Namworld>	Just seems like there's more trading occuring... now it seems people or all holding to their Bitcoins and everyone says they'll be rich...
Feb 18 02:58:11 <Namworld>	people are*
Feb 18 02:58:26 <Namworld>	I don't like it...
Feb 18 02:58:53 <Chaang-Noi>	i was holding onto mine at $4 thinking it would go to $500
Feb 18 02:59:30 <Namworld>	and?
Feb 18 03:01:12 <Bowjob>	who made buttcoins.org?
Feb 18 03:05:21 <Namworld>	some trolls or something?
Feb 18 03:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00066238 = 2.0203 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 03:17:32 <Chaang-Noi>	buttcoins has been around for ever
Feb 18 03:18:44 <Chaang-Noi>	nam im still holding
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Feb 18 03:20:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1271 @ 0.00066238 = 0.8419 BTC [+]
Feb 18 03:20:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7123 @ 0.00066239 = 4.7182 BTC [+]
Feb 18 03:20:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2416 @ 0.00066509 = 1.6069 BTC [+]
Feb 18 03:24:58 <thestringpuller>	you get a bailout
Feb 18 03:25:03 <thestringpuller>	you get a bailout
Feb 18 03:25:06 <thestringpuller>	EVERYONE GETS A BAILOUT
Feb 18 03:26:22 <usagi>	thestringpuller; How did you get burned? You are getting your full 1 btc for every share of nyan.a aren't you?
Feb 18 03:27:17 <usagi>	Did smickles give you the payments? You should have gotten at least 20 BTC from nyan.a now.
Feb 18 03:28:04 <usagi>	See, when we invest in BTC-MINING, which went from 1 to .05, people blame me and not Namworld.
Feb 18 03:28:13 <usagi>	That's why you dont have haters nam, they're too busy hating on me.
Feb 18 03:29:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066039 = 2.8535 BTC [-]
Feb 18 03:29:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2479 @ 0.00066046 = 1.6373 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 03:36:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066018 = 2.8526 BTC [-]
Feb 18 03:36:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9528 @ 0.00066046 = 6.2929 BTC [+]
Feb 18 03:37:28 <Namworld>	There was tons of others aside you...
Feb 18 03:38:03 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 18 03:38:04 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, 27 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 18 03:38:28 <Namworld>	People barely reacted... I'm pissed at amazingrando.
Feb 18 03:38:28 <thestringpuller>	also smickles stated: "Nyan.A account 3.76 BTC paid"
Feb 18 03:39:14 <thestringpuller>	I don't hate on anyone, I just make observations of what will make you money and what won't...
Feb 18 03:39:25 <Namworld>	Maybe they just don't see amazingrando as such a scammer but just a failure of GPU mining in general... but what he is doing is not fair.
Feb 18 03:39:41 <Namworld>	and had far bigger concerns =/
Feb 18 03:40:03 <Namworld>	I don't know, but not many seems to have even breathed any comment about it.
Feb 18 03:41:52 <thestringpuller>	usagi: based on my calculations (assuming smickles hasn't been assassinated by the US government) my NYAN.A liquidation will fully mature sometime in march
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Feb 18 03:49:00 <dub>	heh
Feb 18 03:49:02 <dub>	http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/gangster-bankers-too-big-to-jail-20130214
Feb 18 03:49:13 <dub>	"There is nobody anywhere growing weed strong enough to help the human mind grasp the enormity of this crime.
Feb 18 03:49:16 <dub>	Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/gangster-bankers-too-big-to-jail-20130214#ixzz2LErnNDZg
Feb 18 03:49:20 <dub>	Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook
Feb 18 03:49:22 <dub>	wtf
Feb 18 03:50:12 <dub>	I got clipboard jacked
Feb 18 03:50:49 <thestringpuller>	yes you did
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Feb 18 03:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4674 @ 0.00066045 = 3.0869 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 03:56:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7326 @ 0.00066045 = 4.8385 BTC [-]
Feb 18 03:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2393 @ 0.00066046 = 1.5805 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065586 = 2.834 BTC [-]
Feb 18 04:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2229 @ 0.00065564 = 1.4614 BTC [-]
Feb 18 04:00:17 <Namworld>	eh, news outlets/magazines auto-protecting their quotes now...
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Feb 18 04:02:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00066046 = 0.1321 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:02:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066493 = 2.8732 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:02:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00066494 = 1.1164 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:02:40 <usagi>	thats an interesting article
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Feb 18 04:02:47 <usagi>	par for the course tho
Feb 18 04:05:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00066494 = 6.2837 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:14:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065581 = 2.8338 BTC [-]
Feb 18 04:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8329 @ 0.00065564 = 5.4608 BTC [-]
Feb 18 04:16:41 <thestringpuller>	seems like selling drugs is the only thing that hasn't lost me money...
Feb 18 04:16:48 <thestringpuller>	going through my books
Feb 18 04:17:13 <thestringpuller>	how is it drug dealers have more fiduciary responsibility than BTC'ers :(
Feb 18 04:20:43 <jurov>	thestringpuller, i dod my own difficulty futures on bitfunder, slightly improved
Feb 18 04:20:45 <jurov>	*did
Feb 18 04:21:18 <jurov>	but CoinBr.iDiff-O is fully on par with X.IDIFF.MAR date- and price- wise
Feb 18 04:21:53 <jurov>	it's also partially defacto covered by X.IDIFF.MAR (and partially by bitbet lol)
Feb 18 04:23:11 <thestringpuller>	LOL partially by bitbet
Feb 18 04:23:58 <thestringpuller>	idiff-o is for october?
Feb 18 04:24:11 <jurov>	no, "O"dd month
Feb 18 04:24:25 <jurov>	after it expires, i'll reset it to expire on May
Feb 18 04:24:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1621 @ 0.00066494 = 1.0779 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:24:51 <jurov>	cause imho doing it whole quarters ahead isn't attractive
Feb 18 04:25:00 <jurov>	so i'm doing it only 2 mo ahead
Feb 18 04:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 868 @ 0.0063 = 5.4684 BTC [-]
Feb 18 04:25:36 <thestringpuller>	15m max diff?
Feb 18 04:25:41 <thestringpuller>	bc,diff
Feb 18 04:25:42 <jurov>	yes
Feb 18 04:25:44 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,diff
Feb 18 04:25:45 <gribble>	3651011.6306932
Feb 18 04:25:49 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 04:25:51 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221827 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1948 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4905699.69821 | Estimated Percent Change: 34.36549
Feb 18 04:26:17 <thestringpuller>	it's gonna hit at least 8 given the fact the "next difficulty estimate" is increasing by the hour...
Feb 18 04:26:51 <jurov>	well, i'm still selling some at 7m.. go buy :)
Feb 18 04:27:12 <thestringpuller>	:P I might. But I need to wait for smickles to return he has all my btc
Feb 18 04:27:23 <thestringpuller>	well all my investment capital
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Feb 18 04:28:00 <jurov>	lol, he better come up with good story
Feb 18 04:28:31 <jurov>	like brendio: "there were multiple hurricanes over my house, i had to clean the mud"
Feb 18 04:29:07 <thestringpuller>	He has a baby on the way from what mr. popescu has told me.
Feb 18 04:29:15 <thestringpuller>	Perhaps early delivery...
Feb 18 04:29:35 <jurov>	oh so
Feb 18 04:30:41 <thestringpuller>	I'm trying to use futures as anti-mining bonds...
Feb 18 04:31:17 <jurov>	looks like only fags living on places free of serious natural disasters should do btc finances
Feb 18 04:31:27 <thestringpuller>	futures will increase in value as mining bonds decrease...
Feb 18 04:31:39 <thestringpuller>	you are starting to sound like popescu jurov
Feb 18 04:32:12 <jurov>	maybe. if mp was fag
Feb 18 04:32:28 <jurov>	:DDD
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Feb 18 04:32:40 <thestringpuller>	jurov: the first openly gay btc broker :P
Feb 18 04:33:22 <jurov>	um...what about usagi?
Feb 18 04:34:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1484 @ 0.00066509 = 0.987 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066703 = 2.8822 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:34:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00066704 = 9.4386 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:34:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00066886 = 3.0768 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:34:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3848 @ 0.00067088 = 2.5815 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:34:49 <thestringpuller>	I thought usagi was androgynous or something...
Feb 18 04:36:32 <jurov>	dunno if he knows him/herself
Feb 18 04:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3177 @ 0.00067088 = 2.1314 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1376 @ 0.00067152 = 0.924 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:36:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3945 @ 0.00067415 = 2.6595 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:37:00 <thestringpuller>	DIFF futures are gonna be the future with all the asics coming online
Feb 18 04:37:16 <thestringpuller>	So much more volatility in network difficulty than in the price itself :)
Feb 18 04:37:40 <jurov>	but there are earthquaked in japan.. so he's disqualified on the second part anyway :)
Feb 18 04:38:21 <thestringpuller>	http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate
Feb 18 04:38:23 <jurov>	thestringpuller, i think once most asics come online, it will stabilize
Feb 18 04:38:37 <thestringpuller>	until the 2nd generation
Feb 18 04:38:56 <thestringpuller>	or what not but it's gonna be a good month for the network difficulty
Feb 18 04:38:59 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 04:39:02 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221830 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1945 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 16 hours, 29 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4886535.1906 | Estimated Percent Change: 33.84058
Feb 18 04:39:22 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 18 04:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC)
Feb 18 04:39:46 <thestringpuller>	the fucker who got the contracts at .0429 has already made money :P
Feb 18 04:40:28 <jurov>	i gon JUN ones at .03something :DD
Feb 18 04:40:46 <thestringpuller>	why? you're gonna lose money
Feb 18 04:41:02 <thestringpuller>	unless you think a bunch of miners are gonna go offline or something soon
Feb 18 04:41:32 <jurov>	why do you think? ii bought them, not sold
Feb 18 04:41:43 <thestringpuller>	oh
Feb 18 04:41:53 <thestringpuller>	well then you're going to make a bunch of money :P
Feb 18 04:43:23 <thestringpuller>	I have to make a website for class... :( even with bootstrap this is hard
Feb 18 04:45:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13089 @ 0.00067415 = 8.8239 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 04:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6649 @ 0.000665 = 4.4216 BTC [-]
Feb 18 04:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006559 = 2.8341 BTC [-]
Feb 18 04:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1380 @ 0.00065564 = 0.9048 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 04:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067413 = 2.9129 BTC [+]
Feb 18 04:57:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11979 @ 0.00067415 = 8.0756 BTC [+]
Feb 18 05:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00067415 = 5.4269 BTC [+]
Feb 18 05:02:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00629616 = 6.2962 BTC [-]
Feb 18 05:03:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9000 @ 0.0063 = 56.7 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 05:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3830 @ 0.0006579 = 2.5198 BTC [-]
Feb 18 05:04:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62 @ 0.00065564 = 0.0406 BTC [-]
Feb 18 05:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5897 @ 0.00065563 = 3.8663 BTC [-]
Feb 18 05:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1561 @ 0.00065449 = 1.0217 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 05:08:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2337 @ 0.00067415 = 1.5755 BTC [+]
Feb 18 05:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3927 @ 0.00067457 = 2.649 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 05:11:33 <dub>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 18 05:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064262 / 0.00065873 / 0.00067457 (1391416 shares, 916.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00062608 / 0.00065088 / 0.00068894 (11813230 shares, 7,689.04 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.0006619 / 0.0007 (73975536 shares, 48,965.13 BTC)
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Feb 18 05:19:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3984 @ 0.00067457 = 2.6875 BTC [+]
Feb 18 05:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2439 @ 0.00067457 = 1.6453 BTC [+]
Feb 18 05:22:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7111 @ 0.00067645 = 4.8102 BTC [+]
Feb 18 05:23:37 <Namworld>	I reloaded BTCT.co with MPOE/SDICE shares on the ask side.
Feb 18 05:24:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 138 @ 0.00629616 = 0.8689 BTC [-]
Feb 18 05:37:58 <wao>	;;ticker
Feb 18 05:37:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.65569, Best ask: 26.79889, Bid-ask spread: 0.14320, Last trade: 26.65560, 24 hour volume: 82905.44563468, 24 hour low: 25.00000, 24 hour high: 27.29997, 24 hour vwap: 26.38075
Feb 18 05:39:30 <error4733>	;;ticker m s.dice
Feb 18 05:39:30 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Feb 18 05:41:00 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stas
Feb 18 05:41:00 <gribble>	Error: "bc,stas" is not a valid command.
Feb 18 05:41:02 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 05:41:05 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221836 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1939 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 51 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 5008221.13056 | Estimated Percent Change: 37.17352
Feb 18 05:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00067123 = 1.4767 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 05:48:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5015 @ 0.00067123 = 3.3662 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 05:51:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2085 @ 0.00067123 = 1.3995 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 05:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1459 @ 0.0006742 = 0.9837 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 06:04:50 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 06:04:53 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221837 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1938 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 43 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4645039.77795 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.2261
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Feb 18 06:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00067574 = 5.7776 BTC [+]
Feb 18 06:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189 @ 0.00067645 = 0.1278 BTC [+]
Feb 18 06:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1461 @ 0.0006771 = 0.9892 BTC [+]
Feb 18 06:18:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.0006771 = 1.6928 BTC [+]
Feb 18 06:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00067491 = 1.2148 BTC [-]
Feb 18 06:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9230 @ 0.00067463 = 6.2268 BTC [-]
Feb 18 06:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 156 @ 0.0006742 = 0.1052 BTC [-]
Feb 18 06:40:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2314 @ 0.00067047 = 1.5515 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 06:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006707 = 2.8981 BTC [+]
Feb 18 06:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4879 @ 0.00067047 = 3.2712 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 06:59:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2462 @ 0.00622924 = 15.3364 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 07:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4883 @ 0.00067264 = 3.2845 BTC [+]
Feb 18 07:09:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067611 = 2.9215 BTC [+]
Feb 18 07:09:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00067612 = 7.5049 BTC [+]
Feb 18 07:09:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3379 @ 0.0006771 = 2.2879 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 07:18:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1570 @ 0.000677 = 1.0629 BTC [-]
Feb 18 07:18:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 880 @ 0.0006771 = 0.5958 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 07:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80 @ 0.0006771 = 0.0542 BTC [+]
Feb 18 07:22:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00067723 = 4.0295 BTC [+]
Feb 18 07:22:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00067768 = 4.2016 BTC [+]
Feb 18 07:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 870 @ 0.00067782 = 0.5897 BTC [+]
Feb 18 07:28:03 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 07:28:12 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221846 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1929 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 12 hours, 59 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4725250.23341 | Estimated Percent Change: 29.42304
Feb 18 07:28:31 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,block
Feb 18 07:28:31 <gribble>	Error: "bc,block" is not a valid command.
Feb 18 07:28:35 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,cb
Feb 18 07:28:36 <gribble>	Error: "bc,cb" is not a valid command.
Feb 18 07:40:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00067693 = 7.2432 BTC [-]
Feb 18 07:47:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.00068 = 0.0136 BTC [+]
Feb 18 07:49:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00067693 = 1.6585 BTC [-]
Feb 18 07:49:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067265 = 2.9065 BTC [-]
Feb 18 07:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1029 @ 0.00067264 = 0.6921 BTC [-]
Feb 18 07:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00067264 = 4.1704 BTC [-]
Feb 18 07:54:49 <jurov>	lol G.MPOE on bitfunder evaporated before my eyes... and deadterra not around
Feb 18 07:57:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11 @ 0.00067264 = 0.0074 BTC [-]
Feb 18 07:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1357 @ 0.00067047 = 0.9098 BTC [-]
Feb 18 07:57:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066524 = 2.8745 BTC [-]
Feb 18 07:57:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00066523 = 3.3594 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 08:02:45 <mircea_popescu>	PSA : if anyone has a legitimate claim against WBX, please make a claim with dooglus : https://dooglus.com/wbx/
Feb 18 08:03:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1661 @ 0.00066132 = 1.0985 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 08:07:33 <Bowjob>	cant sleeep
Feb 18 08:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067748 = 2.9274 BTC [+]
Feb 18 08:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067781 = 6.7781 BTC [+]
Feb 18 08:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7231 @ 0.00067782 = 4.9013 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 08:18:36 <DeadWeas1l>	morning all
Feb 18 08:19:43 <Bowjob>	40 more mins for asic pre orders again
Feb 18 08:20:49 <pigeons>	avalons?
Feb 18 08:20:58 <Bowjob>	yeap
Feb 18 08:21:10 <pigeons>	have the first batch made it past customs?
Feb 18 08:21:47 <Bowjob>	dont know,maybe
Feb 18 08:21:57 <Bowjob>	theres been delay do to cny
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Feb 18 08:24:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00067699 = 4.2312 BTC [-]
Feb 18 08:25:20 <jurov>	quite a mystery... how do coinbr users manage to cancel multiple orders within one microsecond?
Feb 18 08:28:46 <davos>	HFT will find a way. dinoegg.png
Feb 18 08:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00067063 = 1.2071 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 08:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00067063 = 1.3748 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 08:42:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01511 BTC [-]
Feb 18 08:42:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0151 = 0.0302 BTC [-]
Feb 18 08:42:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.01312 = 0.1181 BTC [-]
Feb 18 08:44:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4459 @ 0.000672 = 2.9964 BTC [+]
Feb 18 08:44:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91 @ 0.00067752 = 0.0617 BTC [+]
Feb 18 08:44:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Feb 18 08:48:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.03011 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 08:56:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 7 @ 0.089 = 0.623 BTC [+]
Feb 18 08:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00067752 = 2.7101 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 08:58:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 5 @ 0.0044 = 0.022 BTC [-]
Feb 18 08:59:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [-]
Feb 18 09:09:24 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons not yet
Feb 18 09:09:27 <Bowjob>	ASICs are now available for pre order
Feb 18 09:09:28 <Bowjob>	!!
Feb 18 09:09:37 <Chaang-Noi>	some people think it is not really made :/
Feb 18 09:10:12 <Chaang-Noi>	but it will be lol if they had, 5,000 people trying to buy 5 units
Feb 18 09:10:17 <Chaang-Noi>	it will still be lol though
Feb 18 09:11:24 <pigeons>	yeah well they didnt just make the 2 that made it to the us and the 2 the are mining in china
Feb 18 09:11:59 <usagi>	BTC has been trading flat for a while now
Feb 18 09:12:02 <pigeons>	but yeah not showing up makes you take pause before spending money. well maybe not, look at all the bfl orders and basic too
Feb 18 09:12:08 <usagi>	How can I bet on a reversal?
Feb 18 09:14:39 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons look at the people who paid pirate :/
Feb 18 09:14:53 <Chaang-Noi>	usagi you want to short btc?
Feb 18 09:15:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00067751 = 1.355 BTC [-]
Feb 18 09:15:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 230 @ 0.00067752 = 0.1558 BTC [+]
Feb 18 09:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 220 @ 0.00067782 = 0.1491 BTC [+]
Feb 18 09:16:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00067782 = 1.6946 BTC [+]
Feb 18 09:17:56 <usagi>	Well
Feb 18 09:18:07 <Bowjob>	k, sold
Feb 18 09:18:08 <usagi>	The 60 day chart is broken isn't it
Feb 18 09:18:55 <Chaang-Noi>	well if you want to short, why not sell?
Feb 18 09:18:59 <Chaang-Noi>	do you want leverage?
Feb 18 09:19:13 <usagi>	I'm buying commodities and stocks with it
Feb 18 09:19:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00067782 = 2.3385 BTC [+]
Feb 18 09:21:06 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Feb 18 09:21:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 468 @ 0.00067782 = 0.3172 BTC [+]
Feb 18 09:21:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32 @ 0.0006779 = 0.0217 BTC [+]
Feb 18 09:22:23 <usagi>	How can I use leverage?
Feb 18 09:26:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3798 @ 0.0006779 = 2.5747 BTC [+]
Feb 18 09:26:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8402 @ 0.00067795 = 5.6961 BTC [+]
Feb 18 09:29:13 <pigeons>	first you load the gun and point it at yourself
Feb 18 09:29:33 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 18 09:30:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i used the wrong word
Feb 18 09:32:35 <Bowjob>	Okay guys sold out
Feb 18 09:32:42 <Bowjob>	Avalon ASICS sold out
Feb 18 09:33:40 <Bowjob>	I'm gonna buy bitcoins to seal my position on buttcoins
Feb 18 09:33:51 <Bowjob>	so its just like i bought asics with cash
Feb 18 09:34:12 <Chaang-Noi>	umm, there were only 5, sure it was going to sell out
Feb 18 09:35:58 <Bowjob>	you mean 343
Feb 18 09:36:10 <Chaang-Noi>	in the latest sale?
Feb 18 09:36:20 <Bowjob>	yes.
Feb 18 09:36:39 <Bowjob>	took like 2 mins
Feb 18 09:37:04 <Chaang-Noi>	i see
Feb 18 09:37:12 <Chaang-Noi>	had i know it was 343 i would have tried
Feb 18 09:37:18 <Chaang-Noi>	known
Feb 18 09:37:23 <Chaang-Noi>	5 i was like lol
Feb 18 09:38:01 <Bowjob>	Order #1421
Feb 18 09:38:06 <Bowjob>	nb
Feb 18 09:38:12 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 09:38:15 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221858 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1917 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 6 hours, 38 minutes, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4370723.57006 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.71267
Feb 18 09:39:51 <Bowjob>	ive stayed up.. pulled an all nighter
Feb 18 09:39:55 <Bowjob>	maybe i can sleep now
Feb 18 09:40:26 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Feb 18 09:40:30 <Chaang-Noi>	are you in school?
Feb 18 09:40:36 <Bowjob>	nah
Feb 18 09:40:41 <Bowjob>	funemployed
Feb 18 09:40:44 <Chaang-Noi>	too old?
Feb 18 09:40:46 <thestringpuller>	funemployed?
Feb 18 09:40:54 <thestringpuller>	da fuck does that even mean lol
Feb 18 09:41:01 <Bowjob>	my job is to have fun
Feb 18 09:41:14 <thestringpuller>	so "retired"?
Feb 18 09:41:21 <Bowjob>	nah, im only 20
Feb 18 09:41:25 <Chaang-Noi>	you have to work first to be retired
Feb 18 09:41:34 <Bowjob>	i have a 6 month work cycle
Feb 18 09:41:44 <Chaang-Noi>	?
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Feb 18 09:41:47 <Bowjob>	i work at a nursery, dealing with plants ect
Feb 18 09:41:52 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Feb 18 09:41:57 <Chaang-Noi>	what area?
Feb 18 09:41:57 <Bowjob>	its a chill job
Feb 18 09:42:01 <Bowjob>	vancouver
Feb 18 09:42:08 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh,, "plants"
Feb 18 09:42:13 <Bowjob>	yeap
Feb 18 09:42:20 <Bowjob>	greenhouse no 13, dont go there
Feb 18 09:42:24 <Bowjob>	the rest are legit
Feb 18 09:42:25 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 18 09:42:31 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 18 09:42:42 <Bowjob>	it can get boring when im off season
Feb 18 09:42:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet
Feb 18 09:42:50 <Bowjob>	so.. i employ myself to have fun
Feb 18 09:42:56 <Bowjob>	hence, funemployed
Feb 18 09:42:57 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been out of work for a while
Feb 18 09:43:08 <Bowjob>	also, got my asic. ill retire a miner
Feb 18 09:43:09 <Bowjob>	:)
Feb 18 09:43:10 <Chaang-Noi>	i spend more when not working
Feb 18 09:43:11 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 18 09:43:18 <Chaang-Noi>	i has asicminer stock
Feb 18 09:43:20 <Bowjob>	im still rolling though
Feb 18 09:43:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i drink or smoke opium
Feb 18 09:43:34 <Bowjob>	i really got nothing to spend money on
Feb 18 09:43:50 <Chaang-Noi>	in thailand they have piles of virgins and soo much beer.....
Feb 18 09:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 471 @ 0.00067696 = 0.3188 BTC [-]
Feb 18 09:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00067663 = 11.1982 BTC [-]
Feb 18 09:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5327 @ 0.00067048 = 3.5716 BTC [-]
Feb 18 09:44:03 <Bowjob>	but.. i though thailand is full of traps
Feb 18 09:44:19 <Chaang-Noi>	they has traps if you like that, but you have to seek them out
Feb 18 09:44:26 <Chaang-Noi>	unless you are in a tourist bar!
Feb 18 09:44:37 <Bowjob>	no traps for me lol
Feb 18 09:44:48 <Chaang-Noi>	iv never tried myself
Feb 18 09:44:53 <Bowjob>	i swear i have the easiest life ever
Feb 18 09:44:58 <Bowjob>	freeest ride lol
Feb 18 09:45:10 <Chaang-Noi>	growing pot must be easy unless you get jailed
Feb 18 09:45:19 <Bowjob>	nah
Feb 18 09:45:32 <Bowjob>	i grow legit stuff lol
Feb 18 09:45:37 <Bowjob>	tomatoes and shit
Feb 18 09:45:45 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i bet lol
Feb 18 09:45:56 <Bowjob>	its a chill living, plenty comfy right now
Feb 18 09:46:02 <Chaang-Noi>	growing tomatoes for 6 months stil has btc for asics
Feb 18 09:46:09 <Bowjob>	but.. all i do is play videogames
Feb 18 09:46:09 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 18 09:46:26 <Bowjob>	hey im paid a decent wage
Feb 18 09:46:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i have a lot of video cards but i cant get into gming
Feb 18 09:46:36 <Bowjob>	for the amount of shit i do
Feb 18 09:46:39 <Chaang-Noi>	in thailand we dont make a decent wage
Feb 18 09:46:40 <Bowjob>	i guess im lucky
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Feb 18 09:46:49 <Bowjob>	yeah i bet
Feb 18 09:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00067795 = 0.5424 BTC [+]
Feb 18 09:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3012 @ 0.00067048 = 2.0195 BTC [-]
Feb 18 09:53:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006682 = 2.8873 BTC [-]
Feb 18 09:53:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3878 @ 0.00066819 = 2.5912 BTC [-]
Feb 18 09:53:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1489 @ 0.00066818 = 0.9949 BTC [-]
Feb 18 09:55:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.02299 BTC [+]
Feb 18 09:57:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067795 = 0.678 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 10:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00066819 = 2.0046 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:06:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11186 @ 0.00066818 = 7.4743 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 764 @ 0.00066253 = 0.5062 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:07:02 <jcpham>	http://i.imgur.com/nInG3dD.jpg
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Feb 18 10:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00066253 = 4.9027 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:15:05 <Chaang-Noi>	jcpham that is romania
Feb 18 10:15:19 <Chaang-Noi>	i read an artical about it somewhere that was a photo
Feb 18 10:15:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4636 @ 0.00066253 = 3.0715 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2414 @ 0.00065654 = 1.5849 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:16:45 <Chaang-Noi>	mp might know these kids
Feb 18 10:16:49 <jcpham>	Six-year old twins Gelu and Edi Petrache sit on stairs in a mansion on Easter Sunday in Buzescu, a small town in Romania. Buzescu is known for it's ultra-wealthy Roma and their bizarre mansions that line the main street. The Roma of Buzescu are part of the Kalderash clan and are known for being coppersmiths and.dealing with metal scraps. After the fall of the communist regime in the.late 80?s, they stripped old factories of their metals and so
Feb 18 10:16:49 <jcpham>	me made a small fortune re-selling them.
Feb 18 10:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3998 @ 0.00067795 = 2.7104 BTC [+]
Feb 18 10:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 328 @ 0.00067853 = 0.2226 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 10:20:10 <Chaang-Noi>	reselling the kids?
Feb 18 10:20:39 <Diablo-D3>	sounds like Chaang-Noi's thing
Feb 18 10:20:41 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, i read the text backwards...
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Feb 18 10:20:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont sell kids lol
Feb 18 10:20:58 <Diablo-D3>	no, you just buy them. for dinner.
Feb 18 10:21:04 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 18 10:21:25 <Chaang-Noi>	im picky as fuck with what i eat
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Feb 18 10:21:30 <Chaang-Noi>	id never eat a human
Feb 18 10:21:41 <Chaang-Noi>	unless i was going to die...
Feb 18 10:26:42 <usagi>	the New York Fed stores the German gold for free, reports the NYT, on the basis that the presence of the German gold is “supporting the dollar’s status as the global reserve currency.”
Feb 18 10:26:59 <usagi>	That's a quote.
Feb 18 10:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00066711 = 6.571 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 10:29:27 <Chaang-Noi>	ill store gold for free lol
Feb 18 10:30:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1907 @ 0.00065654 = 1.252 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2566 @ 0.00065653 = 1.6847 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0062955 = 2.5182 BTC [+]
Feb 18 10:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0063 = 0.63 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 10:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 984 @ 0.00065653 = 0.646 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:42:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.0006555 = 2.6548 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:42:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2760 @ 0.00065449 = 1.8064 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00065448 = 6.3812 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5037 @ 0.00065441 = 3.2963 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 10:54:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00065441 = 1.6687 BTC [-]
Feb 18 10:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00065826 = 1.7773 BTC [+]
Feb 18 11:02:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2421 @ 0.00067054 = 1.6234 BTC [+]
Feb 18 11:03:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9104 @ 0.00067077 = 6.1067 BTC [+]
Feb 18 11:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065462 = 2.8286 BTC [-]
Feb 18 11:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9179 @ 0.00065441 = 6.0068 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 11:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2196 @ 0.00067077 = 1.473 BTC [+]
Feb 18 11:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1192 @ 0.00067436 = 0.8038 BTC [+]
Feb 18 11:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00067236 = 3.0256 BTC [-]
Feb 18 11:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00065734 = 1.3147 BTC [-]
Feb 18 11:23:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2590 @ 0.00065441 = 1.6949 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 11:31:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00645 = 0.0323 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 11:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3399 @ 0.00065441 = 2.2243 BTC [-]
Feb 18 11:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10851 @ 0.0006544 = 7.1009 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 11:39:54 <mircea_popescu>	lol so gas is over 5 dollars a galon in california
Feb 18 11:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	when bush was president it went over 3.5 after katrina, you could not read anything but how gas is over 3.5
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Feb 18 11:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	now... silence. it's gonna go over 10 in a coupla years and it'll still be silent.
Feb 18 11:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	the us press is literally the new soviet press i swear.
Feb 18 11:40:57 <ThickAsThieves>	it's still about 3.5 in florida i think
Feb 18 11:41:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i don't buy much gas...
Feb 18 11:41:27 <mircea_popescu>	im just like wow, i gotta find out from people
Feb 18 11:41:40 <mircea_popescu>	cause the press is busy misquotin ron paul or w/e
Feb 18 11:42:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont follow US news for US news
Feb 18 11:42:45 <ThickAsThieves>	I use BBC and Al Jazeera
Feb 18 11:43:39 <mircea_popescu>	ima end up putting up a page filledwith what ppl living there tell me
Feb 18 11:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	end up drudge#2 or some shit
Feb 18 11:44:17 <ThickAsThieves>	us news mostly isnt news at all
Feb 18 11:44:47 <ThickAsThieves>	its various marketing packaged as news
Feb 18 11:45:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 11:45:55 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221865 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1910 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 7 hours, 14 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4193312.21943 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.85343
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Feb 18 11:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00065809 = 1.9743 BTC [+]
Feb 18 11:58:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 12:06:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3129 @ 0.00067362 = 2.1078 BTC [+]
Feb 18 12:06:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171 @ 0.00067385 = 0.1152 BTC [+]
Feb 18 12:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006584 = 2.8449 BTC [-]
Feb 18 12:10:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 329 @ 0.00065809 = 0.2165 BTC [-]
Feb 18 12:13:27 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: electric car drivers won't be affected :P
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Feb 18 12:18:05 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 18 12:18:05 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 15 hours, 7 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 18 12:18:25 <DeadWeasel>	um, where has smickles gone?
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Feb 18 12:29:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 32 @ 0.0063 = 0.2016 BTC [+]
Feb 18 12:29:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 182 @ 0.00640596 = 1.1659 BTC [+]
Feb 18 12:29:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0064096 = 1.2819 BTC [+]
Feb 18 12:30:20 <DeadWeasel>	is there a way to get mtgox price via command line, not in irc?
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Feb 18 12:32:18 <pizzaman1337>	DeadWeasel: of course, API. https://mtgox.com/api/1/BTCUSD/ticker
Feb 18 12:32:59 <DeadWeasel>	well, I guess I just have to learn some language and parse this?
Feb 18 12:33:13 <pizzaman1337>	it's json
Feb 18 12:33:15 <DeadWeasel>	json is easy though, right
Feb 18 12:33:24 <pizzaman1337>	most languages have a library to parse this
Feb 18 12:33:44 <pizzaman1337>	if you're looking for something easy to get started with, python isn't a bad place to start
Feb 18 12:34:10 <DeadWeasel>	i've installed that, just need to cross the divide
Feb 18 12:34:28 <pizzaman1337>	google is your friend
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Feb 18 12:35:17 <DeadWeasel>	what ide do you use?
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Feb 18 12:36:31 <pizzaman1337>	for python I just use vim
Feb 18 12:37:43 <DeadWeasel>	looks like PyDev with eclipse might be good for this newb
Feb 18 12:41:27 <DeadWeasel>	or geany
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Feb 18 12:51:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5411 @ 0.00065909 = 3.5663 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 12:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3289 @ 0.00066042 = 2.1721 BTC [+]
Feb 18 12:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4711 @ 0.0006581 = 3.1003 BTC [-]
Feb 18 13:04:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen evoorhees
Feb 18 13:04:42 <gribble>	evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 19 hours, 30 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <evoorhees> perfect
Feb 18 13:04:50 <ThickAsThieves>	odd
Feb 18 13:05:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5289 @ 0.0006581 = 3.4807 BTC [-]
Feb 18 13:05:13 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice website and betting has been wonky lately
Feb 18 13:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00066413 = 6.7077 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 13:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00648691 = 6.4869 BTC [+]
Feb 18 13:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 591 @ 0.0064869 = 3.8338 BTC [-]
Feb 18 13:21:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3411 BTC [-]
Feb 18 13:22:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.341 BTC [-]
Feb 18 13:22:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.341 BTC [-]
Feb 18 13:22:35 <kakobrekla>	its a scam.
Feb 18 13:23:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 29 @ 0.34 = 9.86 BTC [-]
Feb 18 13:23:32 <pizzaman1337>	it's free money!
Feb 18 13:24:27 <kakobrekla>	o hey pizza, how is it going
Feb 18 13:24:36 <pizzaman1337>	not bad
Feb 18 13:24:37 <pizzaman1337>	yourself?
Feb 18 13:24:47 <kakobrekla>	alright, busy day :)
Feb 18 13:24:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 823 @ 0.00638721 = 5.2567 BTC [-]
Feb 18 13:24:59 <pizzaman1337>	looking forward to going to vegas in 2 days
Feb 18 13:25:06 <kakobrekla>	o?
Feb 18 13:25:08 <kakobrekla>	gambling?
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Feb 18 13:25:33 <pizzaman1337>	maybe just a little, brother's bachelor party
Feb 18 13:25:45 <pizzaman1337>	if I wanted to gamble I'd play S.DICE
Feb 18 13:25:47 <pizzaman1337>	:)
Feb 18 13:25:47 <kakobrekla>	o nice.
Feb 18 13:25:49 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 18 13:25:52 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 18 13:26:03 <pizzaman1337>	my poker skills aren't that great though
Feb 18 13:26:05 <kakobrekla>	meh im missing the thrill
Feb 18 13:26:12 <kakobrekla>	withc s.dice
Feb 18 13:26:18 <kakobrekla>	with*
Feb 18 13:26:25 <pizzaman1337>	why are you missing it? is it down?
Feb 18 13:26:31 <kakobrekla>	no i mean
Feb 18 13:26:40 <kakobrekla>	i miss the excitement when playing
Feb 18 13:26:48 <kakobrekla>	since its like instant
Feb 18 13:26:58 <kakobrekla>	so there is no adrenaline rush
Feb 18 13:26:59 <pizzaman1337>	ah, yeah
Feb 18 13:27:03 <kakobrekla>	like when i short btc
Feb 18 13:27:04 <kakobrekla>	:D
Feb 18 13:27:17 <pizzaman1337>	:)
Feb 18 13:27:30 <pizzaman1337>	gotta run, bbl
Feb 18 13:27:35 <kakobrekla>	enjoy, later
Feb 18 13:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00067068 = 4.4936 BTC [+]
Feb 18 13:29:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00066435 = 0.2325 BTC [-]
Feb 18 13:30:47 <kakobrekla>	btw ill prolly mention this several times along the way
Feb 18 13:30:58 <kakobrekla>	mpex -> sierra chart almost working.
Feb 18 13:35:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0063 = 0.063 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 13:39:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 13:39:45 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221876 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1899 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 15 hours, 36 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4058614.30824 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.1641
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Feb 18 13:47:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.0006581 = 1.9743 BTC [-]
Feb 18 13:47:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2055 @ 0.00065809 = 1.3524 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 13:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00065809 = 1.7768 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 13:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065959 = 2.8501 BTC [+]
Feb 18 13:56:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8679 @ 0.00065973 = 5.7258 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 14:06:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 14:13:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.7 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:13:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.6 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 14:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1404 @ 0.00065973 = 0.9263 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 14:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00669999 = 6.7 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:18:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0067 = 6.7 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:18:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.006885 = 6.885 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:18:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00689 = 6.89 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.006895 = 6.895 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:22:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 39 @ 0.7125 = 27.7875 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:22:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.71 = 4.97 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:22:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.70799999 = 2.832 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 14:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14796 @ 0.00066488 = 9.8376 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:22:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3315 = 0.663 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:23:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3315 = 0.663 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:23:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.331 = 0.662 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 14:24:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00065988 = 0.8578 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:26:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2870 @ 0.00065809 = 1.8887 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:26:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006549 = 2.8298 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:26:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6309 @ 0.00065489 = 4.1317 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:27:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.33 = 1.65 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:29:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1730 @ 0.00065489 = 1.133 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2561 @ 0.0006544 = 1.6759 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10230 @ 0.00065409 = 6.6913 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:29:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1879 @ 0.00065256 = 1.2262 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:29:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0063 = 0.126 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:30:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00624 = 0.0125 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97 @ 0.00065988 = 0.064 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:34:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 68 @ 0.0061 = 0.4148 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3603 @ 0.00067079 = 2.4169 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00065257 = 1.1094 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1584 @ 0.00065256 = 1.0337 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00065256 = 6.9171 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 14:41:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 14 @ 0.33 = 4.62 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:41:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:42:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:43:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:45:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.70799999 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00067361 = 2.0208 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:47:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067362 = 2.9107 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00067363 = 0.3227 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:47:42 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 18 14:47:43 <gribble>	1 BTC = 26.82000 U.S. dollars = 20.0478397 Euros
Feb 18 14:49:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065959 = 2.8501 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:49:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7879 @ 0.00065948 = 5.196 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2371 @ 0.00065948 = 1.5636 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:50:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1126 @ 0.00065257 = 0.7348 BTC [-]
Feb 18 14:51:03 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: that sounds cool. I'd love to reverse engineer MT4's protocol and get mtgox on that, no margin trading though...
Feb 18 14:51:54 <kakobrekla>	hehe reverse mt4 hehe
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Feb 18 14:55:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006735 = 2.9102 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00067363 = 3.5561 BTC [+]
Feb 18 14:56:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 15:03:01 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: heh http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1776726/how-can-i-reverse-engineer-a-network-protocol-metatrader-4
Feb 18 15:10:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3799 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00067268 = 7.4331 BTC [-]
Feb 18 15:14:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00067238 = 2.8576 BTC [-]
Feb 18 15:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4242 @ 0.00067363 = 2.8575 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1126 @ 0.00067363 = 0.7585 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2432 @ 0.00067363 = 1.6383 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:38:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3382 @ 0.00067238 = 2.274 BTC [-]
Feb 18 15:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00067363 = 0.741 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 789 @ 0.00067363 = 0.5315 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12579 @ 0.00067385 = 8.4764 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3878 @ 0.00067435 = 2.6151 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5949 @ 0.00067437 = 4.0118 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:44:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2468 @ 0.00067238 = 1.6594 BTC [-]
Feb 18 15:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00066543 = 7.8521 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 15:51:37 <DeadWeasel>	volume is shit
Feb 18 15:51:40 <DeadWeasel>	 28k
Feb 18 15:52:09 <DeadWeasel>	:/
Feb 18 15:54:59 <ThickAsThieves>	3-day weekend in US
Feb 18 15:55:35 <DeadWeasel>	no banks, i know.
Feb 18 15:55:48 <DeadWeasel>	any media poke will be delayed till wed/thurs
Feb 18 15:56:15 <DeadWeasel>	reddit / mega media may hit big.  but a lot of their users are also broke.
Feb 18 15:56:23 <DeadWeasel>	curious to see
Feb 18 15:57:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.006895 = 6.895 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.0069 = 27.6 BTC [+]
Feb 18 15:57:49 <ThickAsThieves>	I have a feeling it will mostly serve to help us keep pace
Feb 18 15:58:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not convinced reddit and mega will bring a huge increase
Feb 18 15:58:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.7 = 35 BTC [-]
Feb 18 15:58:28 <ThickAsThieves>	not to say that our current pace isn't plenty :)
Feb 18 15:58:56 <Lyspooner>	our pace is roughly 25 coins every 10 minutes.  no other pace matters
Feb 18 15:59:10 <Lyspooner>	:)
Feb 18 15:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0069 = 34.5 BTC [+]
Feb 18 16:00:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.7 = 35 BTC [-]
Feb 18 16:00:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0069 = 69 BTC [+]
Feb 18 16:00:58 <DeadWeasel>	if everybody started selling and nobody bought, you might be concerned about pace
Feb 18 16:01:08 <DeadWeasel>	but maybe not
Feb 18 16:01:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 100 @ 0.7 = 70 BTC [-]
Feb 18 16:07:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.682 BTC [-]
Feb 18 16:08:55 <Lyspooner>	not so much
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Feb 18 16:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31051 @ 0.00067437 = 20.9399 BTC [+]
Feb 18 16:10:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11711 @ 0.00067476 = 7.9021 BTC [+]
Feb 18 16:10:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.0006753 = 11.0412 BTC [+]
Feb 18 16:11:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00067692 = 1.4215 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 16:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4218 @ 0.00067854 = 2.8621 BTC [+]
Feb 18 16:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31350 @ 0.00067855 = 21.2725 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 16:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3220 @ 0.00067884 = 2.1859 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 16:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00066543 = 2.5952 BTC [-]
Feb 18 16:20:00 <jurov>	this is exactly right: http://i.imgur.com/YHGMhIi.jpg
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Feb 18 16:21:53 <kakobrekla>	o well thats new pizzaman1337
Feb 18 16:21:55 <kakobrekla>	didnt know.
Feb 18 16:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00066282 = 6.6613 BTC [-]
Feb 18 16:31:07 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 16:31:10 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221902 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1873 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 11 hours, 46 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4194096.00714 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.8749
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Feb 18 16:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4 @ 0.00066398 = 0.0027 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 16:53:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 246 @ 0.00066398 = 0.1633 BTC [+]
Feb 18 16:53:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8254 @ 0.00067536 = 5.5744 BTC [+]
Feb 18 16:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00066282 = 2.3199 BTC [-]
Feb 18 16:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2055 @ 0.00066034 = 1.357 BTC [-]
Feb 18 17:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9348 @ 0.00066034 = 6.1729 BTC [-]
Feb 18 17:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1681 @ 0.0006595 = 1.1086 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 17:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 953 @ 0.00067536 = 0.6436 BTC [+]
Feb 18 17:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1847 @ 0.00067683 = 1.2501 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 17:24:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00067132 = 3.4909 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 17:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3316 @ 0.00067201 = 2.2284 BTC [+]
Feb 18 17:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1884 @ 0.00067682 = 1.2751 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 17:43:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00067132 = 5.8405 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 17:50:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.71 = 1.42 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 17:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00067132 = 1.4454 BTC [-]
Feb 18 17:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 647 @ 0.00067131 = 0.4343 BTC [-]
Feb 18 17:51:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.725 = 1.45 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 17:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00067682 = 2.3689 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 18:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00067131 = 2.9538 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 18:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00067682 = 1.8274 BTC [+]
Feb 18 18:31:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5503 @ 0.00067131 = 3.6942 BTC [-]
Feb 18 18:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3438 @ 0.00066492 = 2.286 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 18:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3801 @ 0.00067682 = 2.5726 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 18:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1441 @ 0.00066492 = 0.9581 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 19:37:37 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 18 19:37:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.81116, Best ask: 26.99895, Bid-ask spread: 0.18779, Last trade: 26.81115, 24 hour volume: 28146.94767573, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.14800, 24 hour vwap: 26.77014
Feb 18 19:38:00 <DeadWeasel>	volume 'steady' at 28,000.  I wonder what that includes
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Feb 18 20:01:46 <mod6>	rally
Feb 18 20:06:30 <Bowjob>	fuck
Feb 18 20:06:35 <Bowjob>	my bank is closed
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Feb 18 20:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 18 20:15:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.00512, Best ask: 27.00614, Bid-ask spread: 0.00102, Last trade: 27.00614, 24 hour volume: 36837.64498059, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.43194, 24 hour vwap: 26.88400
Feb 18 20:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Feb 18 20:16:45 <Bowjob>	stupid banks
Feb 18 20:16:52 <Bowjob>	i give them my money so they can invest it
Feb 18 20:16:53 <Bowjob>	..
Feb 18 20:17:11 <BitHub>	banks, paypal, never ends
Feb 18 20:17:13 <Bowjob>	they wont even answer my call
Feb 18 20:17:36 <Bowjob>	btw I was able to secure Avalon no 2
Feb 18 20:17:48 <Bowjob>	trying to replace the spent coins
Feb 18 20:19:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.11979 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 20:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2471 @ 0.00066492 = 1.643 BTC [-]
Feb 18 20:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00066116 = 5.2562 BTC [-]
Feb 18 20:41:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7179 @ 0.00065992 = 4.7376 BTC [-]
Feb 18 20:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	when's the delivery ?
Feb 18 20:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00066693 = 6.636 BTC [+]
Feb 18 20:46:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00067682 = 1.0829 BTC [+]
Feb 18 20:48:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08596 BTC [-]
Feb 18 20:48:42 <Bowjob>	march 5 to april 5th
Feb 18 20:51:01 <dub>	2013-2015
Feb 18 20:51:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.00068 = 0.0061 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 20:59:49 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 18 20:59:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.55000, Best ask: 27.59900, Bid-ask spread: 0.04900, Last trade: 27.59900, 24 hour volume: 47556.91667849, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.60000, 24 hour vwap: 27.02661
Feb 18 20:59:57 <kakobrekla>	go bitch go.
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Feb 18 21:01:40 <dub>	go down
Feb 18 21:01:57 <assbot>	 no u go down
Feb 18 21:02:16 <dub>	NO U
Feb 18 21:04:22 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 18 21:04:23 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 23 hours, 53 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 18 21:04:23 <thestringpuller>	:(
Feb 18 21:04:38 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I am putting a bounty out for you!
Feb 18 21:05:04 <kakobrekla>	did you send him an email?
Feb 18 21:06:09 <thestringpuller>	no in general I want to put out a bounty for mircea_popescu and see how many bounty hunters come forth
Feb 18 21:06:43 <kakobrekla>	depends what you got to offer really
Feb 18 21:07:06 <thestringpuller>	we'll start the bidding at 1000 btc's
Feb 18 21:07:18 <kakobrekla>	bidding?
Feb 18 21:07:24 <kakobrekla>	is this a reverse auction?
Feb 18 21:07:31 <thestringpuller>	YESSIR for the head of mircea_popescu
Feb 18 21:07:32 <kakobrekla>	"ill kill him for 5btc only srs"
Feb 18 21:07:46 <thestringpuller>	XD
Feb 18 21:08:14 <kakobrekla>	first sign a message with key holding 1k btc
Feb 18 21:08:26 <kakobrekla>	until then best to stfu.
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Feb 18 21:10:35 <thestringpuller>	i kno rite
Feb 18 21:11:11 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 21:11:14 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221932 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1843 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 27 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4156078.98122 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.83363
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Feb 18 21:14:43 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 18 21:14:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.51000, Best ask: 27.77000, Bid-ask spread: 0.26000, Last trade: 27.50000, 24 hour volume: 50030.24095015, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.77000, 24 hour vwap: 27.05526
Feb 18 21:14:56 <kakobrekla>	y u slow.
Feb 18 21:15:16 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 18 21:15:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.63282, Best ask: 27.98430, Bid-ask spread: 0.35148, Last trade: 27.98430, 24 hour volume: 51414.05905568, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.98430, 24 hour vwap: 27.07812
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Feb 18 21:15:45 <kakobrekla>	27.9 lulz
Feb 18 21:15:51 <dub>	aaaand down
Feb 18 21:16:07 <kakobrekla>	ya possibly
Feb 18 21:16:19 <kakobrekla>	under 22 we get fucked.
Feb 18 21:17:01 <kakobrekla>	take a smell of this tho http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
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Feb 18 21:18:17 <dub>	pff
Feb 18 21:18:24 <dub>	inb4 $2
Feb 18 21:18:32 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Feb 18 21:19:46 <dub>	;;ticker
Feb 18 21:19:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.68020, Best ask: 27.78485, Bid-ask spread: 0.10465, Last trade: 27.78486, 24 hour volume: 51511.72136611, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.98430, 24 hour vwap: 27.07960
Feb 18 21:21:16 <Namworld>	IT IS TIME!
Feb 18 21:21:30 <Namworld>	People will at last get their 33ish  something =/
Feb 18 21:21:44 <kakobrekla>	y u so sad
Feb 18 21:22:01 <dub>	who was it here that bought in at $32?
Feb 18 21:22:10 <dub>	smickles oslt
Feb 18 21:22:10 <thestringpuller>	smickles did
Feb 18 21:22:12 <kakobrekla>	i sold at that.
Feb 18 21:23:13 <kakobrekla>	not this time.
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Feb 18 21:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	is it high enough at least ?
Feb 18 21:27:16 <Namworld>	no
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Feb 18 21:30:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.04011 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 21:32:25 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 18 21:32:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.66000, Best ask: 27.69987, Bid-ask spread: 0.03987, Last trade: 27.66000, 24 hour volume: 52255.95488875, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.98430, 24 hour vwap: 27.09083
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Feb 18 21:34:09 <rxw>	would anybody be interested in purchasing my remaining shares of ASICMINER?
Feb 18 21:34:16 <rxw>	I only have 76 shares left
Feb 18 21:34:30 <Chaang-Noi>	.1 sure
Feb 18 21:34:35 <rxw>	haha
Feb 18 21:34:43 <Chaang-Noi>	who put the wall up at 28?? :)
Feb 18 21:34:50 <rxw>	I'm looking to sell at .4
Feb 18 21:34:50 <dub>	pirate
Feb 18 21:35:20 <rxw>	I haven't been as active as I used to be, pirate's pretty much fled the community right
Feb 18 21:35:30 <Chaang-Noi>	21:32:36 <+amphipod> Feb19 02:32:15 mtgox    x117 2,494.8955 @    27.9846635  USD
Feb 18 21:35:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i think you can find a buyer at .4 if you look for a while
Feb 18 21:35:59 <Chaang-Noi>	pirate logs onto the forum from time to time
Feb 18 21:36:29 <rxw>	there's an auction that started at that price, I'm confident the shares are worth that much, unfortunately I'm not as confident about the short-term prospects of bitcoin's price :[
Feb 18 21:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 485 @ 0.00065992 = 0.3201 BTC [-]
Feb 18 21:37:50 <Bowjob>	rally!!!
Feb 18 21:38:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10819 @ 0.0006595 = 7.1351 BTC [-]
Feb 18 21:40:10 <dub>	Chaang-Noi: did you read about pirate supposedly being in Thailand?
Feb 18 21:41:40 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Feb 18 21:41:51 <Chaang-Noi>	bcb would not tell me the hotel where so i could no go check
Feb 18 21:42:04 <Chaang-Noi>	so i assumed it was just bcb trolling
Feb 18 21:42:26 <Bowjob>	if you found pirate what would you do?
Feb 18 21:42:53 <thestringpuller>	rob him
Feb 18 21:42:54 <thestringpuller>	lol
Feb 18 21:42:58 <dub>	I'd cut little bits off him till he gave up wallet
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Feb 18 21:44:45 <Bowjob>	I got no beef with pirate, I haven't really fell for his scam
Feb 18 21:45:08 <Bowjob>	it woulda been nice to ride his ponzi and cash out before he shuts it down though
Feb 18 21:45:42 <dub>	I've got no beef either but its not like he's gonna go to the cops
Feb 18 21:46:07 <Bowjob>	if I see him here in vancouver id keep tabs on him
Feb 18 21:46:22 <Bowjob>	get a $$$ reward for his info
Feb 18 21:52:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.69880001 = 6.988 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 22:09:27 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 18 22:09:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.71173, Best ask: 27.97757, Bid-ask spread: 0.26584, Last trade: 27.97922, 24 hour volume: 59300.63225777, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 28.00000, 24 hour vwap: 27.19648
Feb 18 22:10:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7596 @ 0.00065948 = 5.0094 BTC [-]
Feb 18 22:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00066072 = 3.8322 BTC [+]
Feb 18 22:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4515 @ 0.00067682 = 3.0558 BTC [+]
Feb 18 22:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4389 @ 0.00067683 = 2.9706 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 22:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29752 @ 0.0006563 = 19.5262 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 22:28:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 22:28:19 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221940 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1835 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 11 hours, 15 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4135678.15118 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.27486
Feb 18 22:28:37 <Chaang-Noi>	wall gone
Feb 18 22:28:44 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 30
Feb 18 22:28:46 <gribble>	There are currently 23369.025 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 685141.323637 USD in total.
Feb 18 22:28:47 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 32
Feb 18 22:28:49 <gribble>	There are currently 31924.794 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 953604.207317 USD in total.
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Feb 18 22:34:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 995 @ 0.00066 = 0.6567 BTC [-]
Feb 18 22:34:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.00066 = 0.0165 BTC [-]
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Feb 18 22:35:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00065 = 0.65 BTC [-]
Feb 18 22:35:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 43 @ 0.00633 = 0.2722 BTC [+]
Feb 18 22:39:14 <Chaang-Noi>	we over $28 yet?
Feb 18 22:40:28 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 18 22:41:52 <kakobrekla>	yep
Feb 18 22:45:39 <DeadWeasel>	ever used a moneypak?
Feb 18 22:45:43 <DeadWeasel>	holy shit 28
Feb 18 22:45:45 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 18 22:45:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.01894, Best ask: 28.18357, Bid-ask spread: 0.16463, Last trade: 28.02200, 24 hour volume: 62934.30942216, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 28.21686, 24 hour vwap: 27.26228
Feb 18 22:45:59 <kakobrekla>	28, AGAIN.
Feb 18 22:46:02 <DeadWeasel>	haha
Feb 18 22:46:21 <DeadWeasel>	i just noticed, got an alert on my phone at 27.8, but just got up cos i couldn't sleep
Feb 18 22:46:43 <DeadWeasel>	anyhow, anybody ever used a moneypak?
Feb 18 22:47:14 <kakobrekla>	people in #bitcoin-otc do
Feb 18 22:47:54 <DeadWeasel>	you can pay your CC bill with it, that's cool.
Feb 18 22:48:25 <DeadWeasel>	i noticed i could withdraw at blockchain.info for moneypak, am investigating.
Feb 18 22:48:28 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Feb 18 22:48:35 <kakobrekla>	made a push on the no side, finally.
Feb 18 22:48:45 <DeadWeasel>	50-50
Feb 18 22:49:02 <DeadWeasel>	nice, what's your money on?  I'm on NO.
Feb 18 22:49:12 <DeadWeasel>	that should pay 2:1, no?
Feb 18 22:49:34 <kakobrekla>	about, depend when your weight is
Feb 18 22:49:58 <kakobrekla>	depends where your weight is
Feb 18 22:50:16 <DeadWeasel>	13`816
Feb 18 22:50:24 <DeadWeasel>	how do I calc?
Feb 18 22:51:05 <kakobrekla>	Weighted No:
Feb 18 22:51:05 <kakobrekla>	63`677`075
Feb 18 22:51:15 <kakobrekla>	you know how much your coin*weight is
Feb 18 22:51:21 <DeadWeasel>	5 btc
Feb 18 22:51:27 <kakobrekla>	so you know how much of the pot you get
Feb 18 22:51:28 <DeadWeasel>	i'm a whale
Feb 18 22:51:37 <DeadWeasel>	i see a number, but no, i don't
Feb 18 22:51:52 <kakobrekla>	whales got brains.
Feb 18 22:51:53 <DeadWeasel>	oh, 13k of 63 mil
Feb 18 22:52:04 <DeadWeasel>	fish brains
Feb 18 22:52:15 <DeadWeasel>	just keep swimming
Feb 18 22:52:43 <DeadWeasel>	ok, i see now.  my weight is my chunk of the weighted No.
Feb 18 22:52:51 <DeadWeasel>	amazing how much one fish can in 1 minute
Feb 18 22:52:58 <DeadWeasel>	just keep swimming just keep swimming
Feb 18 22:53:02 *	DeadWeasel keeps swimming
Feb 18 22:53:09 <DeadWeasel>	who am I?
Feb 18 22:53:13 <kakobrekla>	calm down son.
Feb 18 22:53:31 <DeadWeasel>	http://www.carpanglersgroup.com/forum/uploads/med_gallery_5860_50_27858.jpg
Feb 18 22:53:36 <DeadWeasel>	(I'm Dory)
Feb 18 22:54:14 <DeadWeasel>	I have a Job negotiation tomorrow and a long conversation to have with my liberal yankee girlfriend about guns.  so I'm a little excited.
Feb 18 22:54:26 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Feb 18 22:54:46 <DeadWeasel>	Diablo-D3 feels me.  stressful times.
Feb 18 22:55:02 <DeadWeasel>	plus I had 100BTC missing all weekend due to coinbase being poor business people.
Feb 18 22:55:16 *	Diablo-D3 watches external hd churn away
Feb 18 22:55:31 <DeadWeasel>	Diablo-D3: what you churnin?
Feb 18 22:55:38 <DeadWeasel>	disk butter?
Feb 18 22:55:47 <Diablo-D3>	...
Feb 18 22:55:55 <Diablo-D3>	thats perverted.
Feb 18 22:55:59 <Diablo-D3>	no, Im doing a backuo
Feb 18 22:56:17 <DeadWeasel>	i did that today too!  well done.  remastersys is ggrreeeat!
Feb 18 22:56:34 <DeadWeasel>	it's nice walking around with my personal Iso in my pocket
Feb 18 22:57:00 <DeadWeasel>	kakobrekla: you're right, i think I've got a little mania happenin'
Feb 18 22:57:04 <Diablo-D3>	Im getting a new 2TB drive soon
Feb 18 22:57:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.365 BTC [-]
Feb 18 22:57:28 <Diablo-D3>	moving from 2x400gb raid 1 + 4x750gb raid 5 to 2x2TB raid 1 and... two drives.
Feb 18 22:57:51 <Diablo-D3>	I was considering keeping the same arrangement, 2x750gb raid 1, 2x2TB raid 1
Feb 18 22:57:56 <Diablo-D3>	boot, data respectively
Feb 18 22:58:06 <DeadWeasel>	that's a big boot.
Feb 18 22:58:06 <Diablo-D3>	but I can just throw the boot drive shit on the 2TB raid 1
Feb 18 22:58:18 <DeadWeasel>	separate is better.
Feb 18 22:58:23 <Diablo-D3>	its not boot boot
Feb 18 22:58:26 <Diablo-D3>	its the entire OS and /home
Feb 18 22:58:45 <Diablo-D3>	movies, music, anime, etc is on the 4x750 raid 5
Feb 18 22:58:48 <DeadWeasel>	is your home encrypted?
Feb 18 22:58:58 <Diablo-D3>	its all encrypted
Feb 18 22:59:19 <DeadWeasel>	good
Feb 18 22:59:37 <DeadWeasel>	i didn't realize it couldn't be til after the fact until after the fact.
Feb 18 22:59:47 <DeadWeasel>	other way around.
Feb 18 22:59:51 <Diablo-D3>	and btw, not all 400GB is used for linux
Feb 18 23:00:01 <Diablo-D3>	its 200GB, the other half is windows
Feb 18 23:00:22 <Diablo-D3>	so what I was thinking is, shove everything linux onto the 2x2TB
Feb 18 23:00:24 <DeadWeasel>	I was running linux/windows split ssd on 60GB drive.  it weren't easy.
Feb 18 23:00:28 <Diablo-D3>	and then give one 750 to windows
Feb 18 23:01:05 <DeadWeasel>	23gb nix, 37 windows 7 64, just enough room if I move swap, recycle, and all new programs to data drive.
Feb 18 23:01:30 <Diablo-D3>	btw, of those 4 750s?
Feb 18 23:01:35 <Diablo-D3>	1 is already one of the 2 2TB
Feb 18 23:01:48 <Diablo-D3>	one failed, I replaced it with a 2TB just so I could do this later
Feb 18 23:01:48 <DeadWeasel>	youmust have a lot of movies/anime.
Feb 18 23:01:53 <Diablo-D3>	really, no
Feb 18 23:01:56 <Diablo-D3>	I never filled it up
Feb 18 23:02:01 <Diablo-D3>	still have like 800gb left
Feb 18 23:02:03 <DeadWeasel>	well, you're prepared
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Feb 18 23:02:10 <DeadWeasel>	like a good datacenter
Feb 18 23:02:22 <Diablo-D3>	and I have a lot of stuff I dont really want anymore that I could dump
Feb 18 23:02:34 <Diablo-D3>	and the 200gb linux / still has like 50gb left
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Feb 18 23:03:01 <Diablo-D3>	I guess I could throw osx on the other 750
Feb 18 23:03:07 <Diablo-D3>	(which leaves me with one spare 750)
Feb 18 23:03:21 <Bowjob>	whew
Feb 18 23:03:24 <Bowjob>	its a hassle
Feb 18 23:03:27 <Bowjob>	buying btc
Feb 18 23:03:29 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 18 23:03:31 <Diablo-D3>	the 2x400s will be destroyed, of course
Feb 18 23:03:33 <DeadWeasel>	where'd you buy?
Feb 18 23:03:35 <Diablo-D3>	they're just too goddamned old
Feb 18 23:03:59 <DeadWeasel>	you should wipe'em and keep them as backups, if they aren't skipping or corrupt
Feb 18 23:04:21 <DeadWeasel>	i have a hard time throwing away hardware, even past it's life
Feb 18 23:04:24 <DeadWeasel>	it shows
Feb 18 23:04:25 <Diablo-D3>	one has irrecoverable bad sectors in a part of the drive
Feb 18 23:04:26 <Namworld>	Diablo: go to 10 x 1 TB SSD...
Feb 18 23:04:32 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: fuck that
Feb 18 23:04:35 <Diablo-D3>	Im trying to get LESS drives not more
Feb 18 23:04:44 <DeadWeasel>	actually it's be safer
Feb 18 23:04:46 <Namworld>	Why get less when you can go overkill?
Feb 18 23:04:55 <Diablo-D3>	my case fits 6 drives... but I had to take the top drive cage out because the 7970 was too long
Feb 18 23:04:59 <DeadWeasel>	two raid arrays, 5  one TB drives each
Feb 18 23:05:03 <Diablo-D3>	so two drives are sitting where the cage goes
Feb 18 23:05:08 <Diablo-D3>	the bottom cage takes 4
Feb 18 23:05:19 <DeadWeasel>	don't fence me in
Feb 18 23:05:25 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: I'd just raid10 those
Feb 18 23:05:40 <Diablo-D3>	it'd be infinite drive io.
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Feb 18 23:06:19 <Diablo-D3>	but yeah, so, meh
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Feb 18 23:06:24 <Diablo-D3>	at least my box'll be faster
Feb 18 23:06:30 <DeadWeasel>	is 79 C too hot for a 6770?
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Feb 18 23:06:37 <DeadWeasel>	that's 174 F
Feb 18 23:06:39 <DeadWeasel>	seems hot
Feb 18 23:06:40 <Diablo-D3>	my 400gb 7200.8s do like 65 mb/sec sequential reads
Feb 18 23:06:42 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: "no"
Feb 18 23:06:45 <DeadWeasel>	yay!
Feb 18 23:06:47 <Diablo-D3>	max safe 24/7 operation is 85c
Feb 18 23:06:52 <Diablo-D3>	I dont like going above 75 though
Feb 18 23:06:55 <DeadWeasel>	ok good.
Feb 18 23:07:00 <DeadWeasel>	should I limit to 75?
Feb 18 23:07:06 <Diablo-D3>	peak operation is up to 120c, btw
Feb 18 23:07:07 <DeadWeasel>	i run for a couple days at a time
Feb 18 23:07:21 <DeadWeasel>	then i let it rest.
Feb 18 23:07:32 <Diablo-D3>	nvidia, and anything cpu, and anything mobile, is 75c maximum 24/7 safe, but I dont like going over 65.
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Feb 18 23:07:39 <DeadWeasel>	ati
Feb 18 23:07:44 <Diablo-D3>	desktop radeons are the one exception
Feb 18 23:07:55 <DeadWeasel>	goody
Feb 18 23:08:08 <Diablo-D3>	also, never put gpu fans over 66% 24/7.
Feb 18 23:08:33 <Diablo-D3>	most gpu fans will last at least 2 years at 66%
Feb 18 23:08:42 <Diablo-D3>	although el cheapo OEMs really skimp on fans
Feb 18 23:08:45 <DeadWeasel>	mine is at 85%
Feb 18 23:08:48 <Diablo-D3>	*cough*xfx*cough*
Feb 18 23:08:51 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, thats not good
Feb 18 23:09:09 <DeadWeasel>	ok, changed miner settings, down to 66
Feb 18 23:09:28 <DeadWeasel>	bfgminer should adjust clock/voltage... i'll keep an eye
Feb 18 23:09:35 <DeadWeasel>	nope
Feb 18 23:09:53 <DeadWeasel>	still at normal engine/memory clock
Feb 18 23:09:57 <Diablo-D3>	low end cards like 6770 just dont have the proper cooling
Feb 18 23:10:17 <DeadWeasel>	brb
Feb 18 23:10:21 <Diablo-D3>	58xx, 69xx, 79xx have massive double slot coolers
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Feb 18 23:12:19 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: btw, my external drive I use for backing up?
Feb 18 23:12:27 <Diablo-D3>	its in an usb3 enclosure
Feb 18 23:12:28 <Diablo-D3>	lawls
Feb 18 23:13:04 <Diablo-D3>	the drive in it, a samsung F3G 5400rpm, does like 120mb/sec sequential writes
Feb 18 23:13:14 <Diablo-D3>	and it still does it over usb3
Feb 18 23:13:37 <DeadWeasel>	what % of normal should I set voltage, and clocks?
Feb 18 23:13:47 <DeadWeasel>	or just set voltage?
Feb 18 23:13:52 <DeadWeasel>	I'm already up to 85!
Feb 18 23:14:04 <DeadWeasel>	I think bgfminer accounts and slows down at 65C
Feb 18 23:15:22 <DeadWeasel>	oops  *85C
Feb 18 23:15:24 <swhitt>	whoa did someone eat up the ask wall for s.dice at 0.0069?
Feb 18 23:15:29 <swhitt>	or was the ask removed
Feb 18 23:15:57 <Namworld>	Someone ate it up I think
Feb 18 23:16:13 <swhitt>	om nom nom!
Feb 18 23:16:37 <swhitt>	it was like 420 BTC
Feb 18 23:16:42 <swhitt>	delicious, delicious btc
Feb 18 23:16:55 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 18 23:16:58 <Bowjob>	mhm.. walls are delicious
Feb 18 23:17:12 <BitHub>	i want a damn div already from sdice
Feb 18 23:17:26 <swhitt>	BitHub: ... every month?
Feb 18 23:17:44 <BitHub>	yeah, i think mine is coming up real soon
Feb 18 23:17:46 <swhitt>	you'll get one on march 1 unless they lose money that month
Feb 18 23:17:49 <BitHub>	i must of joined at the wrong time
Feb 18 23:18:08 <BitHub>	have
Feb 18 23:18:09 <swhitt>	evoorhees releases the dividends on the first of the month
Feb 18 23:18:15 <swhitt>	typically
Feb 18 23:18:33 <BitHub>	ahh okey, man i love divs
Feb 18 23:18:37 <swhitt>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE
Feb 18 23:18:51 <swhitt>	the dividend amount and dates are underneath the book
Feb 18 23:18:54 <Bowjob>	well our dividend this month is gonna be a lot lower
Feb 18 23:19:03 <swhitt>	yeah, no whale
Feb 18 23:19:05 <Bowjob>	unless we get a huge whale
Feb 18 23:19:07 <BitHub>	ahhh crap
Feb 18 23:19:11 <BitHub>	is s.dice dying?
Feb 18 23:19:16 <Bowjob>	no
Feb 18 23:19:17 <Namworld>	it's still not going to be bad at all
Feb 18 23:19:24 <swhitt>	no the volume is just a bit lower
Feb 18 23:19:32 <Namworld>	No, dividends just fluctuates a lot. It's a casino after all...
Feb 18 23:19:34 <Bowjob>	its just the whales respoinsible for 40k of the profits
Feb 18 23:19:38 <Namworld>	Depends on winners
Feb 18 23:19:49 <Namworld>	and losers
Feb 18 23:19:53 <swhitt>	profit this month is about 9000 btc
Feb 18 23:19:56 <Bowjob>	its just regular joes and mini whales playing this month
Feb 18 23:20:00 <swhitt>	divide that by 100 million
Feb 18 23:20:04 <Bowjob>	mhm.. its not bad still
Feb 18 23:20:05 <BitHub>	yeah true
Feb 18 23:20:15 <Bowjob>	thats like a little less than half from last month
Feb 18 23:20:21 <BitHub>	but that huge dumping of shares they've done recently
Feb 18 23:20:21 <swhitt>	0.00009 btc / share ish atm
Feb 18 23:20:26 <BitHub>	must have raised so much money
Feb 18 23:20:39 <swhitt>	18000 btc
Feb 18 23:20:39 <Bowjob>	id hope its for advertising
Feb 18 23:20:41 <swhitt>	ish
Feb 18 23:20:49 <swhitt>	at 0.006 / share
Feb 18 23:20:56 <swhitt>	it was a bit less than that
Feb 18 23:21:12 <Bowjob>	I did an exit at 0.75 earlier lol
Feb 18 23:21:26 <swhitt>	Bowjob: did you buy any at .42?
Feb 18 23:21:29 <Bowjob>	yes
Feb 18 23:21:43 <Bowjob>	42, 48, and 56
Feb 18 23:21:51 <swhitt>	I bought 12000 at 52
Feb 18 23:21:59 <swhitt>	was too late with the funds
Feb 18 23:22:04 <Bowjob>	sold for 75.. i wanted to be out of dice for now actually
Feb 18 23:22:11 <swhitt>	regulatory issues?
Feb 18 23:22:21 <Bowjob>	buy back when the dividend isnt realized.. and factor in the dice based on regular joe, not the whale
Feb 18 23:22:52 <swhitt>	think we're going to get a readjustment at the end of the month when people who don't read dooglas' posts realize the dividend is going to be smaller?
Feb 18 23:22:59 <BitHub>	i wouldn't mind investing in mega, if there was a pass through :P
Feb 18 23:23:11 <Bowjob>	yeah a small correction
Feb 18 23:23:11 <swhitt>	i wouldn't touch mega with a long pole
Feb 18 23:23:15 <Bowjob>	then again id prolly be wrong
Feb 18 23:23:23 <swhitt>	yeah it's hard to speculate.
Feb 18 23:23:32 <swhitt>	which is what we're doing anyways...
Feb 18 23:23:35 <Bowjob>	I did read the havelock shares going down correctly though
Feb 18 23:23:45 <Bowjob>	i knew they were bound to go down on the 18th
Feb 18 23:23:47 <BitHub>	i was thinking to use havelock
Feb 18 23:23:49 <DeadWeasel>	apparenlty speculating is easy
Feb 18 23:23:52 <BitHub>	what you think of it bow?
Feb 18 23:24:06 <Bowjob>	I read the markets beautifully on havelock
Feb 18 23:24:08 <DeadWeasel>	solid guy, james has responded to me personally on several venues.
Feb 18 23:24:09 <swhitt>	havelock is good if you have less than a few hundred btc to throw around
Feb 18 23:24:19 <DeadWeasel>	you can call him on the phone and has bricks and mortar business
Feb 18 23:24:22 <Bowjob>	heres what i did
Feb 18 23:24:23 <Bowjob>	..
Feb 18 23:24:23 <DeadWeasel>	lighthouse something
Feb 18 23:24:26 <BitHub>	cool
Feb 18 23:24:26 <Bowjob>	i know that
Feb 18 23:24:31 <Bowjob>	... well i better shut up then lol
Feb 18 23:24:34 <BitHub>	might give them a go
Feb 18 23:24:45 <BitHub>	not good to have all your investments tied down to one site
Feb 18 23:24:59 <DeadWeasel>	might not be good to have them at all.  nobody really knows.
Feb 18 23:25:03 <Bowjob>	james did a private offer back then at 0.48 x 250 for me
Feb 18 23:25:03 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 18 23:25:07 <DeadWeasel>	we just speculate
Feb 18 23:25:10 <DeadWeasel>	nice
Feb 18 23:25:15 <BitHub>	yeah thats true, i only trust bitfunder for now.
Feb 18 23:25:21 <Bowjob>	when the shares were 27xx
Feb 18 23:25:27 <Bowjob>	2700 on havelock
Feb 18 23:25:29 <Bowjob>	now its 9k shares
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Feb 18 23:27:16 <Bowjob>	I got an ASIC order today
Feb 18 23:27:19 <Bowjob>	pretty happy
Feb 18 23:27:19 <Bowjob>	:3
Feb 18 23:27:24 <DeadWeasel>	hooray!
Feb 18 23:27:28 <DeadWeasel>	hope it comes soon.
Feb 18 23:28:03 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 18 23:28:03 <Bowjob>	I'm betting on the probability that BFL wont ship after Avalon ships their second batch
Feb 18 23:28:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.45000, Best ask: 27.57498, Bid-ask spread: 0.12498, Last trade: 27.57498, 24 hour volume: 68408.24847417, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 28.21686, 24 hour vwap: 27.31534
Feb 18 23:28:07 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 18 23:28:13 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 18 23:28:16 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 221946 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1829 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 13 hours, 49 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4168937.9512 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.18583
Feb 18 23:28:19 <Bowjob>	If not, then who cares
Feb 18 23:28:28 <thestringpuller>	can gribble give the hashrate?
Feb 18 23:29:23 <dub>	;;bc,nethashpersec
Feb 18 23:29:24 <gribble>	Error: "bc,nethashpersec" is not a valid command.
Feb 18 23:29:28 <dub>	;;nethashpersec
Feb 18 23:29:29 <gribble>	Error: "nethashpersec" is not a valid command.
Feb 18 23:29:44 <dub>	meh its something like that
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Feb 18 23:30:01 <dub>	its rather meaningless anyway
Feb 18 23:30:18 <dub>	look at http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
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Feb 18 23:30:46 <DeadWeasel>	up it goes dub
Feb 18 23:31:03 <dub>	what goes
Feb 18 23:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00066197 = 7.6789 BTC [+]
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Feb 18 23:31:25 <DeadWeasel>	must plateau?
Feb 18 23:32:17 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: bfgminer has an option to set what the tempt is
Feb 18 23:32:21 <Namworld>	up must come down?
Feb 18 23:32:33 <dub>	im hoping asicminer has the rest of that 12th online solo
Feb 18 23:32:34 <Diablo-D3>	and no, it doesnt set volts automatically, thats usually bad mojo, and most cards cant be set anyhow
Feb 18 23:32:47 <DeadWeasel>	Diablo-D3: thanks, i think it's under control, just changed voltage,mem,engine to low settings, down to 72C
Feb 18 23:32:52 <DeadWeasel>	still getting decent hash
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Feb 18 23:33:02 <DeadWeasel>	not an asic, but still fun.
Feb 18 23:33:05 <DeadWeasel>	:)
Feb 18 23:33:38 <DeadWeasel>	Bowjob: is that a zoidberg smile?  :3   ?
Feb 18 23:33:48 <DeadWeasel>	why not zoidberg indeed!
Feb 18 23:35:08 <Diablo-D3>	its a cat grin
Feb 18 23:35:25 <dub>	its a ballchinian
Feb 18 23:35:29 <DeadWeasel>	looks like zoidberg
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Feb 18 23:42:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14445 @ 0.0006563 = 9.4803 BTC [-]
Feb 18 23:43:21 <DeadWeasel>	abracadabra: 52DBordello2012-09-23 16:40:503met him in alley to buy his rigs, considered just stealing them from him but there were too many witnesses
Feb 18 23:43:34 <DeadWeasel>	bitocin OTC rating of dbordello...  funny shit.
Feb 18 23:44:09 <DeadWeasel>	nighty night all.
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Feb 19 00:23:23 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/YHGMhIi.jpg
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Feb 19 01:10:20 <Chaang-Noi>	rught at 28ish
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Feb 19 01:45:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i have been running the numbers, if asic miner can hold 33% of the network on average for the first year, they will bring in 1 btc per share...
Feb 19 01:45:55 <Chaang-Noi>	if bfl fails hard like bASIC then they will odds are get 80%
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Feb 19 01:48:04 <Chaang-Noi>	and that is like 2.5 btc each share just for the first year
Feb 19 01:48:11 <Chaang-Noi>	seems selling at .5 now is just silly?
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Feb 19 01:49:59 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone else run these numbers?
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Feb 19 01:50:39 <Namworld>	I already sold at .4
Feb 19 01:50:58 <Namworld>	I'm pretty sure they will have competition
Feb 19 01:51:12 <guest__>	I think it'd be harder to keep 33% for a year than you might think
Feb 19 01:51:16 <Namworld>	Don't forget electricity costs & manufacturing costs
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Feb 19 01:51:36 <Chaang-Noi>	well if bfl fails its a massive win
Feb 19 01:51:41 <Namworld>	Overall ASICMINER seems very competitive on pricing.
Feb 19 01:51:43 <guest__>	that much is true
Feb 19 01:51:56 <Namworld>	Yeah, massive win, but still... 2.5 seems a bit much
Feb 19 01:52:11 <BitHub>	any update on asicminer? in the last 48 hours?
Feb 19 01:52:18 <Chaang-Noi>	i think if bfl fails they will bring in 2 btc per share in the first year
Feb 19 01:52:19 <guest__>	asicminer minting tons of cash will motivate other competitors to crop up
Feb 19 01:53:16 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Feb 19 01:53:21 <guest__>	6 months the rough dev to deployment time?
Feb 19 01:53:29 <Chaang-Noi>	about 9
Feb 19 01:53:59 <guest__>	I guess it depends on the team you assemble.
Feb 19 01:54:09 <Namworld>	By the way, anyone got any mining stocks to lend me? I want to do some shorting.
Feb 19 01:54:12 <Chaang-Noi>	this guy is in china and does this stuff
Feb 19 01:54:28 <guest__>	get a crack Intel engineer interested and it's going to be pretty fast.
Feb 19 01:54:43 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, will take a bunch of money
Feb 19 01:55:00 <guest__>	< burnside here btw.
Feb 19 01:55:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i think bfl might just fail hard like bASIC
Feb 19 01:55:08 <Namworld>	oh hey burnside
Feb 19 01:55:12 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh hey man:)
Feb 19 01:55:28 <guest__>	using Ukto's handy-dandy web-irc page on BitFunder.  I need to get me one of these on BTC-TC.  ;)
Feb 19 01:55:31 <Namworld>	Passthroughs going well it seems
Feb 19 01:56:05 <guest__>	yeah, definitely seems to be going well.
Feb 19 01:56:08 <BitHub>	yeah i'm a fan of passthroughs instead
Feb 19 01:56:18 <guest__>	I love having the MPEx goodies so handy.
Feb 19 01:57:08 <Chaang-Noi>	is the asicminer stock so low priced becasue people expect bfl to ship?
Feb 19 01:57:20 <Namworld>	If you ever notice the mpex-statement lagging behind outstanding shares, remind me to update it please =P
Feb 19 01:57:21 <guest__>	bfl & avalon both, no?
Feb 19 01:57:31 <Chaang-Noi>	avlon is pretty small
Feb 19 01:57:36 <Namworld>	I'd say because both are expected to ship
Feb 19 01:57:45 <Namworld>	and electricity/manufacturing costs
Feb 19 01:57:56 <Namworld>	+ small USD debt for ASICMINER to pay off.
Feb 19 01:57:58 <guest__>	small now, one or two successful rollouts and they'll have a regular assembly line
Feb 19 01:58:15 <Chaang-Noi>	they have already ordered 50 th more
Feb 19 01:58:31 <Namworld>	so?
Feb 19 01:58:38 <guest__>	assembly line I meant bfl/avalon, but yeah, asicminer too
Feb 19 01:59:06 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, see we dont even know if bfl has working chips right?
Feb 19 01:59:14 <guest__>	end game is it's going to end up like it is now, where the people with free power are the only ones that'll be able to afford mining
Feb 19 01:59:28 <guest__>	question is, how long till we get there?
Feb 19 01:59:32 <Namworld>	no, not this time...
Feb 19 02:00:05 <Namworld>	I think the ASICs are too power efficient... hashing power/cost of production will be a more limiting factor I think.
Feb 19 02:00:59 <Chaang-Noi>	i think we will get there, but will take a long long time...
Feb 19 02:01:08 <Namworld>	!ticker btct S.DICE-PT
Feb 19 02:01:21 <Namworld>	yeah, bot dead
Feb 19 02:01:34 <guest__>	cost of production will play in a bit too, you're right, but I think much like there is with gpu's there will always be people that will pay for the device, regardless of if it'll pay itself off in it's lifetime, so cost of production is a lesser factor
Feb 19 02:02:33 <Namworld>	Well there's no new "next technology" this time around. At least none that actually existed since the beggining.
Feb 19 02:02:41 <guest__>	the math you do the day of the gpu purchase never seems to be the same math 4 weeks later after everyone else who did the same math has their gpu online.
Feb 19 02:02:51 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 19 02:02:54 <Namworld>	eheh
Feb 19 02:03:16 <Chaang-Noi>	i really wish i knew if bfl would ship or not
Feb 19 02:03:50 <guest__>	if you have enough skin in the game, it'd be worth trying to setup a factory tour or something.
Feb 19 02:04:16 <guest__>	just going through the front door would give you a pretty good idea if they'll see the light of day or not.
Feb 19 02:04:34 <Chaang-Noi>	im from kansas city but live in thailand now
Feb 19 02:04:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i have family there though
Feb 19 02:04:45 <guest__>	heh, that's a bit of a trip
Feb 19 02:04:58 <Chaang-Noi>	iv never bought from bfl, dont trust them
Feb 19 02:05:35 <guest__>	the preorder thing is of questionable legality and morality
Feb 19 02:05:51 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, could not bfl do what bASIC did?
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Feb 19 02:06:19 <Chaang-Noi>	what happens if the chips do not work, or something else goes bad?
Feb 19 02:06:48 <guest__>	probably then everyone gets a portion of their preorder back.  I guarantee they don't have enough on tap to do refunds in BTC
Feb 19 02:06:59 <guest__>	not full refunds I mean
Feb 19 02:07:13 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah but that would be awesome for ASICminer
Feb 19 02:07:20 <guest__>	definitely
Feb 19 02:07:39 <Namworld>	they don't do refunds in BTC, they do refunds in USD
Feb 19 02:07:47 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl should ship on the 22nd or so right?
Feb 19 02:07:53 <Namworld>	they take a price in USD and they pay back in USD
Feb 19 02:08:20 <Namworld>	the price rise shouldn't impact them at all...
Feb 19 02:08:28 <guest__>	Namworld, exactly the problem.  If you paid in BTC, then even if they give a full refund you've lost 2x your coins.
Feb 19 02:09:09 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 19 02:09:18 <Namworld>	Well the price you pay is in USD
Feb 19 02:09:32 <Namworld>	most providers have USD costs and must convert. They can't refund in BTC
Feb 19 02:09:56 <guest__>	yeah, so at least people know what to expect.
Feb 19 02:10:01 <Namworld>	You should consider you're spending USD when paying some price in USD
Feb 19 02:10:13 <Namworld>	Like you sold them for USD at that time to pay in USD
Feb 19 02:10:13 <guest__>	makes sense.
Feb 19 02:10:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i only has btc and gold :(     fuck fiat
Feb 19 02:10:43 <Namworld>	I'll take the gold. Thank you.
Feb 19 02:10:53 *	Namworld makes a golden statue of himself
Feb 19 02:11:08 <guest__>	Gold scares the crap outta me, soon as anyone found out I had it my house would be an instant target.
Feb 19 02:11:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i have 4 rottwilers...
Feb 19 02:11:43 <guest__>	put it in a safe deposit I guess, but they won't insure against theft.
Feb 19 02:11:46 <Chaang-Noi>	and an ak
Feb 19 02:11:57 <Chaang-Noi>	but most of my gold is not even here
Feb 19 02:12:43 <guest__>	and if you put it in a safe deposit, then you're back to trusting the bank.  heh
Feb 19 02:13:54 <guest__>	maybe I could put it at the office and insure it.  then it's away from the house and safer than the bank.
Feb 19 02:15:03 <guest__>	the house issue for me is a big one.  don't want the tweakers coming after the fam.
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Feb 19 02:16:52 <Namworld>	The banks may be doing stupid stuff with funds deposited in their account, but they don't touch deposit boxes contents...
Feb 19 02:17:47 <Namworld>	Even if they get up to bankruptcy, the boxes contents will stay there.
Feb 19 02:17:59 <guest__>	yeah, it's more about when the criminals clean out the boxes
Feb 19 02:18:01 <Namworld>	It's not like they loot cash and gold in them to loan =/
Feb 19 02:18:12 <guest__>	the banks don't insure the content of the boxes, you have to do that
Feb 19 02:18:32 <guest__>	and if you're going to do that, might as well insure it at home or somewhere else
Feb 19 02:18:54 <Namworld>	I guess... but in a bank it's probably incredibly cheaper to insure
Feb 19 02:19:30 <guest__>	maybe, I'm not sure.  bank of america doesn't have 24/7 staff like our office does.
Feb 19 02:19:39 <guest__>	and we have the same camera setups
Feb 19 02:20:03 <guest__>	I guess we don't have the FBI on tap tho, that'd be a big one.
Feb 19 02:20:29 <Chaang-Noi>	the gold is in a field
Feb 19 02:20:36 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck banks
Feb 19 02:20:45 <guest__>	ohhh.  treasure map?
Feb 19 02:20:56 <Chaang-Noi>	lol no
Feb 19 02:21:20 <Chaang-Noi>	some people know where it is, if we all die off it will be found 500 years from now
Feb 19 02:21:48 <guest__>	heh, sooner or later there's going to be some really good metal detectors I think
Feb 19 02:21:57 <guest__>	that'll be able to run from a crop duster or something
Feb 19 02:22:20 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah,
Feb 19 02:22:33 <Chaang-Noi>	by then i will only have btc left i hope
Feb 19 02:22:43 <guest__>	and ltc!
Feb 19 02:25:43 <guest__>	time for me to crash, catch you all later.
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Feb 19 03:12:34 <Anduck>	!ticker mpex s.dice
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Feb 19 03:27:55 <Chaang-Noi>	night, but yea ltc too haha
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Feb 19 06:33:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 19 06:33:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.54000, Best ask: 27.54999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 27.54000, 24 hour volume: 71099.00472553, 24 hour low: 26.48000, 24 hour high: 28.21686, 24 hour vwap: 27.44215
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Feb 19 06:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	soo... amazonses has no antispam policy ?
Feb 19 06:41:48 <coingenuity>	spam detected
Feb 19 06:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	new rule "if from contains amazonses.com discard message".
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Feb 19 07:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://incognito.mobi/trileme-in-timisoara
Feb 19 07:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	le woot.
Feb 19 07:23:21 <lyspooner>	cel mai bun blog yo
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Feb 19 07:25:08 <mircea_popescu>	dats me!
Feb 19 07:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	whatever i do ends up da best!
Feb 19 07:27:19 <lyspooner>	there any montreal people around this joint?
Feb 19 07:29:40 <Chaang-Noi>	auction for asicminer about an hour left if anyone wants in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144574.0
Feb 19 07:30:50 <Chaang-Noi>	why was mt gox broken?
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Feb 19 07:39:57 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi broken ? huh ?
Feb 19 07:55:54 <Chaang-Noi>	Breaking related news. BFL will ship a few this month maybe but only if all goes well. lol.
Feb 19 07:55:54 <Chaang-Noi>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/85-perennial-question-when-will-my-order-ship.html
Feb 19 07:56:00 <Chaang-Noi>	mp mt gox was failing hard
Feb 19 07:56:06 <Chaang-Noi>	their db failed for like 20 mins
Feb 19 07:56:15 <Chaang-Noi>	mp go check the charts
Feb 19 07:57:30 <jurov>	mtogxlive shows a gap, indeed
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Feb 19 07:57:51 <usagi>	hail
Feb 19 07:57:59 <jurov>	hai
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Feb 19 07:58:31 <jurov>	interesting thought - if mtgox fell flat like in 2011, would price get up or down?
Feb 19 07:58:58 <usagi>	Hey, my bet got accepted on bitbet!
Feb 19 07:59:02 <usagi>	cool stuff.
Feb 19 08:00:04 <usagi>	;;seen DeaDTerra
Feb 19 08:00:04 <gribble>	DeaDTerra was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 17 hours, 1 minute, and 16 seconds ago: <DeaDTerra> 2200 Ghash ^^ go ASICMINER!
Feb 19 08:00:12 <usagi>	whut, 4 days?
Feb 19 08:00:14 <usagi>	;;seen DeaDTerra1
Feb 19 08:00:14 <gribble>	DeaDTerra1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 17 hours, 36 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <DeaDTerra1> so the purchaser breaks the law not the provider
Feb 19 08:01:12 <usagi>	I might need to hire someone else to do financial reports for my company :<
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Feb 19 08:11:44 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl has 6000 chips that they hope to ship by june... this means even at best they will only ship out 27 TH?    wont asicminer at 62TH kill them?
Feb 19 08:13:31 <Chaang-Noi>	is my math at all right here?
Feb 19 08:15:00 <usagi>	There's something I don't get
Feb 19 08:15:14 <usagi>	If everyone has an asic isn't it just like, everyone has a GPU?
Feb 19 08:15:37 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah but if you have 80% of the gpus...
Feb 19 08:15:37 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 19 08:15:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.40000, Best ask: 28.62899, Bid-ask spread: 0.22899, Last trade: 28.63000, 24 hour volume: 78935.86425330, 24 hour low: 26.48000, 24 hour high: 28.72649, 24 hour vwap: 27.55929
Feb 19 08:16:06 <usagi>	So you have to have an asic to mine, sure, but I don't get how it won't be profitable after 1 month like some people are saying
Feb 19 08:16:27 <Chaang-Noi>	it will be
Feb 19 08:16:57 <Chaang-Noi>	but did i do my math right, bfl can only have 26 th at best, and asicminer odds are will ahve 62th?
Feb 19 08:17:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i think thats too far out in the future to predict
Feb 19 08:17:26 <Chaang-Noi>	that means asicminer will ahve like 70% of the network and like 1.5 btc per share just in the first year?
Feb 19 08:17:51 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl only has 6000 chips, each chip can only do 60 ghash
Feb 19 08:18:57 <ThickAsThieves>	but bfl has a nother wafer on the way
Feb 19 08:19:05 <ThickAsThieves>	and more afte rthat
Feb 19 08:19:47 <ThickAsThieves>	and the value of BTC will keep GPU miners in the game longer
Feb 19 08:19:55 <ThickAsThieves>	just too many factors
Feb 19 08:20:39 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Feb 19 08:20:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i have little faith in bfl
Feb 19 08:20:53 <Chaang-Noi>	i half expect it to not even work
Feb 19 08:21:41 <ThickAsThieves>	entirely possibel sadly
Feb 19 08:21:48 <ThickAsThieves>	possible*
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Feb 19 08:23:15 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not loan money to bfl so i really hope they fail
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Feb 19 08:23:30 <usagi>	hi dw
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Feb 19 08:23:52 <usagi>	I need a loan, goat
Feb 19 08:24:04 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah.. i quit doing that after pirate lol
Feb 19 08:24:12 <DeadWeasel>	is silver/btc at parity yet?
Feb 19 08:24:24 <usagi>	no, but it's close
Feb 19 08:24:29 <DeadWeasel>	awesome, glad to hear it.
Feb 19 08:24:44 <usagi>	The 60 day chart is broken, if this rally doesn't succeed I am out
Feb 19 08:24:46 <Chaang-Noi>	$1.50 differance now
Feb 19 08:25:27 <DeadWeasel>	It will, Gwern's SilkRoad/BTC article was on Hacker News later last night.
Feb 19 08:25:42 <DeadWeasel>	Pluss Reddit for Reddit gold plus Mega resellers
Feb 19 08:25:50 <DeadWeasel>	it should be a good week.
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Feb 19 08:28:53 <usagi>	This series is excellent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLC4qfX5p1g
Feb 19 08:29:07 <usagi>	If you can only watch one series on silver that's the one.
Feb 19 08:32:22 <DeadWeasel>	can't watch any at work.  i need that script that saves all urls in a log.
Feb 19 08:33:47 <usagi>	Watch that video deadweasel, when you can
Feb 19 08:33:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 19 08:33:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.41552, Best ask: 28.56999, Bid-ask spread: 0.15447, Last trade: 28.56999, 24 hour volume: 79333.36692833, 24 hour low: 26.48000, 24 hour high: 28.74018, 24 hour vwap: 27.57128
Feb 19 08:34:11 <ThickAsThieves>	gonna break 32 this week?!
Feb 19 08:34:12 <usagi>	it's important to understand why you buy silver, or you might sell it at the wrong time :)
Feb 19 08:34:21 <DeadWeasel>	ok, i'll put it in my email.
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Feb 19 08:35:07 <DeadWeasel>	why go with silver and not gold?
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Feb 19 08:40:47 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 19 08:40:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.40001, Best ask: 28.49998, Bid-ask spread: 0.09997, Last trade: 28.40000, 24 hour volume: 79717.09388889, 24 hour low: 26.48000, 24 hour high: 28.74018, 24 hour vwap: 27.57592
Feb 19 08:42:33 <usagi>	DeadWeasel; The video I just linked will explain everything :>
Feb 19 08:42:35 <usagi>	it's part of a series
Feb 19 08:42:49 <DeadWeasel>	ok, great.  i sent it to my email so I can watch when I get home.
Feb 19 08:43:41 <usagi>	basically silver is a precious metal just like gold but silver is also an industrial metal
Feb 19 08:43:52 <usagi>	secondly silver is a smaller market so it will move faster
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Feb 19 08:47:09 <usagi>	See, historically silver has been at a 16:1 ratio with gold, that's how they pull it out of the ground
Feb 19 08:47:24 <usagi>	That price has gone to 50:1 today and worse. I can't speculate on why, but,
Feb 19 08:47:37 <usagi>	we know that silver has been depleted and that aboveground stocks are now around 1:1 with gold
Feb 19 08:48:01 <usagi>	So basically, if you just look at monetary demand -- even ignoring indistrual demand
Feb 19 08:48:08 <usagi>	either silver needs to rise 50x
Feb 19 08:48:21 <usagi>	in price... or gold needs to drop 50x. What seems more likely is silver will move, because it is a much smaller market
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Feb 19 08:49:15 <DeadWeasel>	interesting.
Feb 19 08:49:49 <usagi>	Unfortunately you can't ignore industrial demand
Feb 19 08:50:18 <usagi>	There is plenty of science behind it too. We're running out of silver. The U.S. Geological society said that at current rates of production vs. use, silver will become extinct by 2030.
Feb 19 08:51:02 <usagi>	It may sound nuts but imagine if a handful of 1oz silver rounds could buy a house with a swimming pool. That is what we're talking about.
Feb 19 08:51:08 <usagi>	Of course no one can predict the future
Feb 19 08:51:31 <jurov>	we'll mine asteroids for silver should that happen
Feb 19 08:51:42 <usagi>	Imagine if an oz. of silver cost $100,000. Ok, so  the price of an imac rises by 10%. Just 10%.
Feb 19 08:52:00 <usagi>	Something like that, right?
Feb 19 08:52:20 <usagi>	Well at that price they will start digging up landfills for old computers
Feb 19 08:54:41 <DeadWeasel>	chinease peasants already burn old computers for the metals.  it's a very healthy profession.
Feb 19 08:54:45 <DeadWeasel>	chinese*
Feb 19 08:54:49 <DeadWeasel>	Chinese*
Feb 19 08:55:46 <DeadWeasel>	big ask walls went up all the way to 30
Feb 19 08:56:03 <Chaang-Noi>	usagi i agree with you but the 50x is a bit too high, wont happen  1/10 ratio is the best we will ever see in our life times is my guess
Feb 19 08:56:04 <DeadWeasel>	aaaaaaand they're gone.  removed.
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Feb 19 08:57:00 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 19 08:57:13 <usagi>	Dunno DeadWeasel
Feb 19 08:57:17 <usagi>	We will see :)
Feb 19 08:57:30 <usagi>	I expect demand to overshoot the price for a while
Feb 19 08:58:44 <usagi>	I mean goat.
Feb 19 08:58:49 <usagi>	typo day
Feb 19 08:59:12 <usagi>	The point is in the past a dime was a day's pay
Feb 19 08:59:20 <usagi>	But that was when they were pulling it out of the ground at 16:1
Feb 19 08:59:32 <usagi>	We may be looking at a dime a week or a dime a month now
Feb 19 09:02:36 <truffles>	where are them pics usagi
Feb 19 09:04:24 <Chaang-Noi>	silver has only gone over gold in recent history once and that was for 1 year in spain like 600 years ago
Feb 19 09:04:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont thin kwe will equal again
Feb 19 09:04:50 <Chaang-Noi>	gold has that marketing thing going :)
Feb 19 09:05:28 <Chaang-Noi>	and even if there is more gold above dound, that gold is stored in giant safes, the silver is floating, the real market is much higher with silver
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Feb 19 09:05:31 *	truffles wants that icecream that cost $1000 with edible gold
Feb 19 09:05:43 <Chaang-Noi>	my sister had gold on her wedding cake
Feb 19 09:05:53 <truffles>	why lol
Feb 19 09:06:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know, but i shat gold the next day...
Feb 19 09:06:53 <truffles>	hope it was worth it
Feb 19 09:07:42 <Guest55650>	i want 10k btc pizza
Feb 19 09:08:52 <truffles>	i would never pay for 1k icecream with my "own" money
Feb 19 09:10:09 <Guest55650>	usagi how much coin did you melt into silver
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Feb 19 09:11:04 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not pay
Feb 19 09:11:15 <Chaang-Noi>	he got two pizzas for 10k
Feb 19 09:11:20 <usagi>	coin? melt? silver? what?
Feb 19 09:11:31 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin to silver right?
Feb 19 09:11:33 <kakobrekla>	how much?
Feb 19 09:11:36 <usagi>	U mean how much did I buy
Feb 19 09:11:47 <kakobrekla>	how much coins you sold for it?
Feb 19 09:11:52 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah im selling silver to get btc/ltc :)
Feb 19 09:12:00 <usagi>	Oh, werll the company owns 80oz right now
Feb 19 09:12:05 <kakobrekla>	in btc?
Feb 19 09:12:20 <usagi>	No idea
Feb 19 09:12:27 <kakobrekla>	what?
Feb 19 09:12:40 <usagi>	My accountant would be able to tell you
Feb 19 09:12:53 <kakobrekla>	ask him
Feb 19 09:12:58 <truffles>	so i guess btc isnt going down in price
Feb 19 09:13:02 <usagi>	He's 5 days late on a financial report
Feb 19 09:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol this is progressing nicely
Feb 19 09:13:31 <usagi>	If BTC keeps going up I will buy another 20oz tube or something
Feb 19 09:13:54 <truffles>	i made a rash decision to "prepare" for the decline
Feb 19 09:14:08 <truffles>	guess i will have to return funds to my acct
Feb 19 09:14:42 <truffles>	so many fees everywhere
Feb 19 09:14:57 <usagi>	Oh
Feb 19 09:14:58 <truffles>	its like a bank, i might as well get another checking acct
Feb 19 09:15:10 <usagi>	Goat if you wanna back tu.silver you can drop ship for me
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Feb 19 09:15:57 <usagi>	Or I could just buy your silver.. what kind of silver do you have
Feb 19 09:16:04 <usagi>	In fact that would be ideal for me since we're both in asia
Feb 19 09:16:07 <usagi>	I have shipping fees
Feb 19 09:16:20 <truffles>	feeeees
Feb 19 09:16:42 <truffles>	sounds like feces
Feb 19 09:17:00 <usagi>	If you want to avoid vat
Feb 19 09:17:07 <usagi>	Take a shit in a plastic bag and put the rounds in that
Feb 19 09:17:22 <usagi>	Then say your shipping "biological samples"
Feb 19 09:17:27 <usagi>	It works.
Feb 19 09:18:04 <pigeons>	who is suprised that usagi mails his shit?
Feb 19 09:18:06 <truffles>	then they quarantine it and send seal team 6 afer u
Feb 19 09:18:28 <kakobrekla>	pigeons :D
Feb 19 09:18:37 <usagi>	Speaking of being suprised, for a pigeon I'm continuously suprised at what goes over your head
Feb 19 09:18:49 <truffles>	oh s...
Feb 19 09:18:53 <kakobrekla>	usagi there are many of them note the 's'
Feb 19 09:19:16 <pigeons>	we are many
Feb 19 09:19:16 <kakobrekla>	more bird, more brain i guess
Feb 19 09:19:23 <usagi>	Oh, I just assumed it was a spelling mistake.
Feb 19 09:19:38 <kakobrekla>	i always assumed it was a borg kinda thing
Feb 19 09:19:52 <kakobrekla>	whre only 1 connection is needed for all of the fleet
Feb 19 09:20:04 <truffles>	s cuz other alias taken..
Feb 19 09:20:15 <usagi>	You know I am actually pretty suprised that no animal communicates using radio waves
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Feb 19 09:21:01 <usagi>	Theoretically a brain or other specialized biological apparatus could have evolved to send and receive radio waves
Feb 19 09:21:06 <jurov>	hi kakobrekla, where's assbot?
Feb 19 09:21:23 <kakobrekla>	having sex
Feb 19 09:21:45 <jurov>	with whom? gribble's here
Feb 19 09:21:49 <truffles>	get lobsterman for utubes too
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Feb 19 09:22:24 <jurov>	;;slap assbot
Feb 19 09:22:26 *	gribble slaps assbot with a inspissated pandura
Feb 19 09:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck is an inspissated
Feb 19 09:23:13 <truffles>	learn something new everyday
Feb 19 09:24:37 <ThickAsThieves>	lol BFL ads on my Facebook
Feb 19 09:25:05 <truffles>	do u have a thumbler too?
Feb 19 09:25:32 <truffles>	or instragram
Feb 19 09:25:45 <jurov>	or twatter
Feb 19 09:26:32 <truffles>	http://open.salon.com/blog/steve_klingaman/2012/05/09/is_facebook_evil_yes
Feb 19 09:26:56 <kakobrekla>	is evil evil? yes!
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Feb 19 09:27:27 <truffles>	google actually autocompleted that for me
Feb 19 09:27:48 <truffles>	some ppl think so it seems
Feb 19 09:27:48 <jurov>	evil is not evil. it's cool.
Feb 19 09:28:18 <truffles>	evil x evil = not evil
Feb 19 09:29:24 <usagi>	You know mike maloney, the guy who played the green goblin in the spider man movies?
Feb 19 09:29:39 <truffles>	yesss?
Feb 19 09:29:50 <usagi>	Is that really mike maloney?
Feb 19 09:29:57 <usagi>	Or is it a different actor
Feb 19 09:30:15 <truffles>	meh question with question..
Feb 19 09:31:50 <jurov>	good i'm not btc developer, this is real evil, both sides just rehashing their arguments: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144895.0
Feb 19 09:32:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 15 @ 0.99 = 14.85 BTC [-]
Feb 19 09:32:44 <truffles>	im okay with there being a 1percent group in bitcoin
Feb 19 09:32:56 <jurov>	like, i'm big miner, i'll mine gigabyte block, now 15% of network can't process it and drops off, so i have 15% more part of network
Feb 19 09:33:08 <jurov>	no it does NOT work that way
Feb 19 09:33:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 19 09:33:43 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222013 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1762 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 38 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
Feb 19 09:33:45 <jurov>	one must take into account the block must be propagated successfully first
Feb 19 09:33:50 <jurov>	but i gave up....
Feb 19 09:33:53 <usagi>	the very idea of a blockchain leads towards centralization
Feb 19 09:34:14 <jurov>	centralization of what?
Feb 19 09:34:23 <ThickAsThieves>	control
Feb 19 09:34:23 <usagi>	control over who gets to spend coins
Feb 19 09:34:31 <usagi>	just "control"
Feb 19 09:34:49 <jurov>	all actors are strongly motivated to keep own copy of blockchain and thus control
Feb 19 09:34:57 <usagi>	I run a web wallet. if it was simply a decision of mine to return pirate's stolen BTC for instance
Feb 19 09:35:00 <usagi>	Do you think I would do it?
Feb 19 09:35:05 <usagi>	That's how it will start.
Feb 19 09:35:12 <truffles>	so why cant they make a system where everyone has equal chance to earn
Feb 19 09:35:26 <usagi>	Because this is money lol
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Feb 19 09:35:42 <usagi>	If you peel away the social veneer you have a bunch of stupid people being raped by a bunch of really smart people
Feb 19 09:35:58 <truffles>	all of the bad just moved over to this "currency"
Feb 19 09:35:59 <usagi>	Well, I should say, it's nature. Evolution. Survival of the fittest
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Feb 19 09:36:24 <truffles>	i feel like the smart ppl have a duty to the not as smart
Feb 19 09:36:51 <usagi>	I am willing to bet that our 'benefactors' will be the bitcoin dev team who will graciously take control of the blockchain, after all if we can't trust the devteam, who can we trust, right?
Feb 19 09:36:51 <jurov>	*rolls eyes*
Feb 19 09:37:01 <usagi>	Who else is going to store a 50 gig blockchain?
Feb 19 09:37:06 <TomServo>	usagi: could you resend the link you mentioned regarding silver?
Feb 19 09:37:34 <jurov>	i will store it.. why not?
Feb 19 09:37:38 <truffles>	duty to help*
Feb 19 09:37:54 <usagi>	yeah it's SBSS #4, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAC607AF992A840A8
Feb 19 09:38:03 <usagi>	jurov ok, how about a 2TB blockchain?
Feb 19 09:38:23 <jurov>	i'll buy bigger hdd for 30 bucks
Feb 19 09:38:39 <jurov>	or a ssd for 300
Feb 19 09:38:43 <kakobrekla>	(0.1 btc at that point)
Feb 19 09:38:50 <usagi>	At some point it will become obvious you do not need to store transactions from 50 years ago to trust someone to pay you for an ice cream cone.
Feb 19 09:39:59 <jurov>	obviously, we'll get some king of tiered storage once things go into petabytes
Feb 19 09:40:00 <usagi>	That will be another large factor in the acceptance of centralized control of a blockcgain
Feb 19 09:40:33 <truffles>	so uh what do u mean by this, non tech speak
Feb 19 09:40:49 <truffles>	" centralized control of a blockcgain"
Feb 19 09:41:17 <jurov>	i don;t understaid it either... the "centralized" word lost a meaning completely by now
Feb 19 09:41:34 <usagi>	The blockchain right now is a feature of almost every client
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Feb 19 09:41:55 <truffles>	its a surprise to me that these chains can be altered at all
Feb 19 09:42:01 <truffles>	what kinda system is this
Feb 19 09:42:15 <usagi>	Well it's an obvious issue.. At some point it will just be too big
Feb 19 09:42:21 <jurov>	truffles, what alteration?
Feb 19 09:42:32 <truffles>	scamcoins
Feb 19 09:42:38 <jurov>	?
Feb 19 09:43:06 <truffles>	havent gotten around to looking into it, but in #bitcoin it was discussed
Feb 19 09:43:28 <truffles>	let me recall an example for sec..
Feb 19 09:44:02 <truffles>	litecoin and solidcoin ?
Feb 19 09:45:05 <truffles>	makes me think of fiat with forgeries if its the same thing at all
Feb 19 09:45:21 <jurov>	look, right now petabyte suitable for blockchain can be got for under $100k... and that's negligible sum for medium and large enterprises
Feb 19 09:45:29 <pigeons>	truffles: those are seperate networks, different geneseis block, different chain, different rules,
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Feb 19 09:45:50 <jurov>	and there are plenty of them... so what fear of centralization?
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Feb 19 09:46:15 <jurov>	they'll buy just few less luxury cars
Feb 19 09:46:53 <jurov>	as i wrote there, it's strawman argument
Feb 19 09:48:03 <wao>	is this safe to generate vanity address https://bitcoinvanity.appspot.com ?
Feb 19 09:48:15 <wao>	at wiki says yes.
Feb 19 09:49:56 <jurov>	wao, dunno... i have cpu-generated addy myself with 6chars prefix in ~12 hours, didn't need more
Feb 19 09:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00064975 = 2.3716 BTC [-]
Feb 19 09:50:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00064927 = 2.0452 BTC [-]
Feb 19 09:52:07 <wao>	just testing, 4 char prefix did in few minutes..
Feb 19 09:52:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1919 @ 0.00675812 = 12.9688 BTC [+]
Feb 19 09:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3279 @ 0.00675813 = 22.1599 BTC [+]
Feb 19 09:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00675813 = 13.5163 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 09:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14361 @ 0.00064927 = 9.3242 BTC [-]
Feb 19 09:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6439 @ 0.00064882 = 4.1778 BTC [-]
Feb 19 09:54:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.713 = 2.852 BTC [-]
Feb 19 09:54:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.712 BTC [-]
Feb 19 09:54:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.712 = 5.696 BTC [-]
Feb 19 09:54:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.711 = 4.977 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 09:55:48 <truffles>	if someone with asic joined a mining pool is that good or bad for that person?
Feb 19 09:56:21 <pigeons>	it will decrease variance of payouts for that person at the cost of less overall expected payout
Feb 19 09:56:44 <truffles>	wow that sounds complicated
Feb 19 09:57:38 <DeadWeasel>	it's not, you get small regular payments instead of large irregular payments
Feb 19 09:57:57 <truffles>	oh i thought maybe it would suck the pool dry
Feb 19 09:57:58 <pigeons>	the miner will liekly get less bitcoins over time, but will consistently get them, instead of waiting perhaps years to get a block soloing
Feb 19 09:58:27 <truffles>	given that it has the most power
Feb 19 09:59:31 <pigeons>	their are several different pooled mining "payout schemes", such as PPS, PPLNS, etc, but all intend to distribute the reward amoung the contributing miners
Feb 19 10:00:25 <truffles>	in that case its not beneficial
Feb 19 10:01:00 <pigeons>	your statement is missing a few clarifications
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Feb 19 10:02:00 <truffles>	difficult to verbalize an idea sometimes without the technicla background..
Feb 19 10:02:23 <pigeons>	what is "it"? beneficial for whom?
Feb 19 10:02:50 <truffles>	oh i mean that its -ev for asic miner to pool mine right now
Feb 19 10:03:06 <Bowjob>	mornig
Feb 19 10:03:14 <truffles>	-ev i.e. not good
Feb 19 10:03:27 <pigeons>	well most asic miners are using pools and plan to use pools
Feb 19 10:03:45 <truffles>	oh
Feb 19 10:04:13 <pigeons>	the reduction of variance from pooled mining has been seen to be "beneficial", even up to particularly high fees
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Feb 19 10:05:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0065 BTC [+]
Feb 19 10:05:38 <truffles>	i would think they'd win the race more often to prefer soloing..
Feb 19 10:05:51 <truffles>	so obv i have no idea whats going on with that
Feb 19 10:06:00 <pigeons>	most people can't afford to wait to get paid
Feb 19 10:06:18 <truffles>	but can afford 1200 item hmm
Feb 19 10:06:47 <pigeons>	try #bitcoin-mining
Feb 19 10:07:06 <truffles>	oh thanks
Feb 19 10:07:22 <truffles>	ive got a few questions to ask im gonna try to smooth out in the future
Feb 19 10:16:51 <truffles>	ever make flourless chocolate cake?
Feb 19 10:16:58 <truffles>	sugar rush ftw
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Feb 19 10:33:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3711 @ 0.00064882 = 2.4078 BTC [-]
Feb 19 10:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27140 @ 0.00064881 = 17.6087 BTC [-]
Feb 19 10:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4753 @ 0.00064827 = 3.0812 BTC [-]
Feb 19 10:33:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00064791 = 1.2958 BTC [-]
Feb 19 10:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2296 @ 0.0006479 = 1.4876 BTC [-]
Feb 19 10:34:25 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 19 10:34:58 <thestringpuller>	;;gribble
Feb 19 10:34:59 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Feb 19 10:35:02 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 19 10:35:09 <thestringpuller>	:(
Feb 19 10:35:12 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 219933 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.5865656 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 1826 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: None | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3471274.16583 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.97807
Feb 19 10:36:01 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222023 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1752 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 33 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
Feb 19 10:37:53 <usagi>	Jesus christ silver is dropping like a rock, 50 cents in less than 5 minutes
Feb 19 10:38:11 <usagi>	Within a dollar of bitcoin now
Feb 19 10:38:32 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 19 10:38:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.50607, Best ask: 28.61999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11392, Last trade: 28.63999, 24 hour volume: 81890.72501130, 24 hour low: 26.50126, 24 hour high: 28.80000, 24 hour vwap: 27.67701
Feb 19 10:38:50 <kakobrekla>	we will break ze old top.
Feb 19 10:38:58 <Bowjob>	Almost parity
Feb 19 10:38:59 <Bowjob>	:)
Feb 19 10:39:48 <usagi>	time to place another bet on bitbet,us
Feb 19 10:40:16 <kakobrekla>	i bet you will bet yes on http://bitbet.us/bet/224/bitcoin-and-silver-price-to-intersect-in-february/
Feb 19 10:40:36 <usagi>	Yes I just did
Feb 19 10:40:40 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Feb 19 10:40:47 <usagi>	this is friggen insane with the silver price
Feb 19 10:41:13 <kakobrekla>	hm lemme open a chart in mt4
Feb 19 10:44:15 <kakobrekla>	i dunno where you saw any reversal to buy in
Feb 19 10:50:14 <pigeons>	lame https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144439.0
Feb 19 10:50:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2808 @ 0.0006479 = 1.8193 BTC [-]
Feb 19 10:51:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.0006479 = 10.3664 BTC [-]
Feb 19 10:51:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1932 @ 0.00064702 = 1.25 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 10:55:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2393 @ 0.00065 = 1.5555 BTC [+]
Feb 19 10:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00065 = 10.4 BTC [+]
Feb 19 10:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1107 @ 0.00065476 = 0.7248 BTC [+]
Feb 19 10:58:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [-]
Feb 19 10:58:34 <usagi>	kakobrekla there was a technical break in the 60 day btc chart
Feb 19 10:59:01 <usagi>	it wasn't a reversal so much as a falling off of demand and a new trading channel being formed as a result
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Feb 19 11:09:40 <DeadWeasel>	bitcoin-24 is selling BTC for $49.....
Feb 19 11:09:43 <DeadWeasel>	wtf
Feb 19 11:10:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3499 = 3.499 BTC [-]
Feb 19 11:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00656792 = 3.284 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 11:14:09 <usagi>	hi dt
Feb 19 11:15:09 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 30
Feb 19 11:15:11 <gribble>	There are currently 16734.788 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 495932.871704 USD in total.
Feb 19 11:16:03 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 19 11:16:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.67003, Best ask: 28.70001, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last trade: 28.67003, 24 hour volume: 82585.74381659, 24 hour low: 26.51111, 24 hour high: 28.80000, 24 hour vwap: 27.69537
Feb 19 11:16:11 <DeadWeasel>	volume is up too!
Feb 19 11:16:15 <usagi>	DeaDWeasel: here's another one, from mike maloney... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj2s6vzErqY&list=PLE28546B60EF30847&index=1
Feb 19 11:16:16 <DeadWeasel>	huzzah!
Feb 19 11:17:26 <usagi>	He looks like willem dafoe
Feb 19 11:17:38 <usagi>	For years actually I thought he was willem dafoe
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Feb 19 11:19:40 <DeadWeasel>	that woulc make for a great video
Feb 19 11:19:59 <thestringpuller>	we can follow the road
Feb 19 11:20:01 <DeadWeasel>	we are going to break 30, then dumps?  I feel ike this will continue
Feb 19 11:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 19 11:20:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.66001, Best ask: 28.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 28.66001, 24 hour volume: 82348.64395440, 24 hour low: 26.51111, 24 hour high: 28.80000, 24 hour vwap: 27.69866
Feb 19 11:20:49 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu i have put a bounty out for you!
Feb 19 11:20:58 <thestringpuller>	may the assasination attempts begin
Feb 19 11:20:59 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Feb 19 11:21:04 <mircea_popescu>	ic
Feb 19 11:21:13 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 30
Feb 19 11:21:15 <gribble>	There are currently 18047.941 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 535258.979966 USD in total.
Feb 19 11:21:22 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 32
Feb 19 11:21:24 <gribble>	There are currently 25453.538 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 765696.717139 USD in total.
Feb 19 11:21:36 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 25
Feb 19 11:21:38 <gribble>	There are currently 35652.494 bitcoins demanded at or over 25.0 USD, worth 945268.073271 USD in total.
Feb 19 11:22:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder if i should go troll the silver bugs :)
Feb 19 11:22:44 <Bugpowder>	I capitulate
Feb 19 11:22:54 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 19 11:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065475 = 6.5475 BTC [-]
Feb 19 11:22:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.66002, Best ask: 28.98999, Bid-ask spread: 0.32997, Last trade: 28.99000, 24 hour volume: 83374.63524858, 24 hour low: 26.51111, 24 hour high: 28.99000, 24 hour vwap: 27.71985
Feb 19 11:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00065476 = 2.2917 BTC [+]
Feb 19 11:22:57 <DeadWeasel>	assasination markets.
Feb 19 11:23:01 <DeadWeasel>	stupid
Feb 19 11:23:15 <DeadWeasel>	detrimental to the bitcoin
Feb 19 11:23:23 <DeadWeasel>	all hail bitcoin
Feb 19 11:23:34 *	DeadWeasel prostrates himself before the might BTC
Feb 19 11:23:38 <pigeons>	beware the ides of march
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Feb 19 11:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you capitulate which way ?
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Feb 19 11:25:48 <Bugpowder>	FUCK
Feb 19 11:25:51 <Bugpowder>	that way
Feb 19 11:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 19 11:26:06 <Bugpowder>	4000 calls from 17
Feb 19 11:26:13 <Bugpowder>	sold at 23-25
Feb 19 11:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	o those should bear nice fruit
Feb 19 11:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	o. aww!
Feb 19 11:26:20 <Bugpowder>	boght 10,000 puts
Feb 19 11:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	well you got 50% of oh
Feb 19 11:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	ouch.
Feb 19 11:26:32 <Bugpowder>	sold 8000 puts
Feb 19 11:26:37 <Bugpowder>	bought 3000 puts
Feb 19 11:26:39 <Bugpowder>	giving up
Feb 19 11:26:49 <Bugpowder>	I've lost the magic
Feb 19 11:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	tis hard to time.
Feb 19 11:27:00 <Bugpowder>	yep
Feb 19 11:27:04 <Bugpowder>	I was just lucky
Feb 19 11:27:07 <Bowjob>	bug, dice isnt going to 0.02xx
Feb 19 11:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 13 * 4000 / 30
Feb 19 11:27:13 <gribble>	1733.33333333
Feb 19 11:27:13 <Bugpowder>	ok dud
Feb 19 11:27:23 <Bugpowder>	Was I right about dice revenue or noot
Feb 19 11:27:24 <Bugpowder>	?
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Feb 19 11:27:42 <Bugpowder>	it has been ~130BTC / day since I posted.
Feb 19 11:27:48 <Bugpowder>	2 weeks ago
Feb 19 11:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	is that good or bad ?
Feb 19 11:27:59 <Bowjob>	yes but the dice isnt going to 0.002 BTC ea
Feb 19 11:28:16 <Bugpowder>	NOw, if the market chooses to support S.DICE at .0065 with 4k of monthly revenue, my pricing model was wrong
Feb 19 11:28:38 <Bugpowder>	The model was based on people paying .0075 for 20k of revenue
Feb 19 11:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	wait, is it making 4k this month ?
Feb 19 11:28:53 <Bowjob>	no
Feb 19 11:28:56 <Bowjob>	more like 9jk
Feb 19 11:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you know s.mpoe made like 500 one month nobody sold
Feb 19 11:29:02 <Bugpowder>	yes
Feb 19 11:29:13 <Bugpowder>	The whale is dead
Feb 19 11:29:17 <Bugpowder>	long live the whale
Feb 19 11:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064703 = 6.4703 BTC [-]
Feb 19 11:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12393 @ 0.00064702 = 8.0185 BTC [-]
Feb 19 11:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00064637 = 8.2089 BTC [-]
Feb 19 11:29:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17407 @ 0.00064608 = 11.2463 BTC [-]
Feb 19 11:30:24 <Bugpowder>	My puts are so far underwater I don't give a fuck
Feb 19 11:30:29 <Bugpowder>	go up bitcoin!
Feb 19 11:30:33 <Bugpowder>	up up and away!
Feb 19 11:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	well how far underwater can they be
Feb 19 11:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	not like you can lose more than their value
Feb 19 11:30:43 <Bugpowder>	yep
Feb 19 11:30:54 <Bugpowder>	180 190 210 230 250 260
Feb 19 11:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C220T] 3 @ 0.20577298 = 0.6173 BTC [+]
Feb 19 11:31:02 <Bugpowder>	pretty underwater
Feb 19 11:31:06 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck 29?
Feb 19 11:31:11 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ask 29
Feb 19 11:31:12 <gribble>	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
Feb 19 11:31:16 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 29
Feb 19 11:31:18 <gribble>	There are currently 572.03788 bitcoins offered at or under 29.0 USD, worth 16588.4874127 USD in total.
Feb 19 11:31:32 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 28.99
Feb 19 11:31:34 <gribble>	There are currently 25.127303 bitcoins offered at or under 28.99 USD, worth 728.190520058 USD in total.
Feb 19 11:31:36 <Bowjob>	sometimes I wonder if I can make monies with 200 BTC on mpex
Feb 19 11:31:40 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 19 11:31:54 <Chaang-Noi>	id play at mpex if the accounts were free
Feb 19 11:32:57 <Bowjob>	chang, you have vip status on btctalk, not sure why you dont have mpex
Feb 19 11:33:19 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: my friend had a neuroscience question for you
Feb 19 11:33:31 <Bugpowder>	sup
Feb 19 11:34:37 <thestringpuller>	do you know much about cellular science? like neuron science?
Feb 19 11:34:42 <Bugpowder>	yes
Feb 19 11:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10761 @ 0.00065476 = 7.0459 BTC [+]
Feb 19 11:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8789 @ 0.00066666 = 5.8593 BTC [+]
Feb 19 11:35:36 <thestringpuller>	yea she had a few questions activation functions, thresholds, etc
Feb 19 11:35:41 <thestringpuller>	basic stuff for someone like you
Feb 19 11:35:58 <thestringpuller>	i can have her email you if easier
Feb 19 11:36:11 <EskimoBob>	so, FPGA's for LTC? this is getting interesting...
Feb 19 11:36:57 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 19 11:36:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.76058, Best ask: 28.87997, Bid-ask spread: 0.11939, Last trade: 28.76058, 24 hour volume: 85806.98253922, 24 hour low: 26.51111, 24 hour high: 29.00000, 24 hour vwap: 27.75976
Feb 19 11:37:07 <DeadWeasel>	hit 30, somebody dumps 3k, makes sense
Feb 19 11:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder so do a ponzi graph ?
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Feb 19 11:37:32 <Bugpowder>	nooooo
Feb 19 11:38:00 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: Office hours are closed, if its quick I can answer it, but no time for a lengthy response
Feb 19 11:38:11 <Chaang-Noi>	Bowjob i turned down a free account at mpex, at the time i did not think it would take off. id not turn it down now, but i wont pay, lol
Feb 19 11:38:42 <Chaang-Noi>	EskimoBob fpga for LTC??!!??
Feb 19 11:39:04 <EskimoBob>	yes
Feb 19 11:39:45 <Chaang-Noi>	link?
Feb 19 11:40:23 <EskimoBob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144983.0
Feb 19 11:40:34 <Chaang-Noi>	and over 29 now
Feb 19 11:40:35 <Bugpowder>	Ponzi fizzle
Feb 19 11:40:35 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/IQy7HqN.png
Feb 19 11:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	aww poor ponzi
Feb 19 11:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly, it's not that bad
Feb 19 11:40:59 <coingenuity>	spam detected
Feb 19 11:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity ?
Feb 19 11:41:13 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 19 11:41:16 <gribble>	1 BTC = 29.00000 U.S. dollars = 21.6773808 Euros
Feb 19 11:41:31 <Bugpowder>	I just tell myself its a hedge
Feb 19 11:41:32 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks for the link Bob
Feb 19 11:41:33 <EskimoBob>	nice
Feb 19 11:41:37 <EskimoBob>	np
Feb 19 11:41:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder basically big deal, you got set back to early jan
Feb 19 11:41:58 <mircea_popescu>	and if you account in usd it's not even anything
Feb 19 11:42:02 <Bugpowder>	yah
Feb 19 11:42:21 <Bugpowder>	I am trying to take the position of now I'm just protecting my USD gains
Feb 19 11:42:30 <Bugpowder>	by hedgine with OOM puts
Feb 19 11:42:45 <usagi>	bugpowder is oom
Feb 19 11:42:48 <Bugpowder>	why don't people buy the XDIFF
Feb 19 11:42:48 <usagi>	hehehe
Feb 19 11:43:00 <Bugpowder>	argh
Feb 19 11:43:13 <Bugpowder>	off to lunch than work.
Feb 19 11:43:18 <Bugpowder>	l8r
Feb 19 11:43:51 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: i am buying xdiff soon
Feb 19 11:43:57 <thestringpuller>	but not enough change in diff
Feb 19 11:44:05 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 19 11:44:17 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222032 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1743 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 7 hours, 31 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
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Feb 19 11:48:01 <DeadWeasel>	silk road gwern article is back up on hacker news front page again!
Feb 19 11:48:21 <DeadWeasel>	http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road
Feb 19 11:50:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C210T] 3 @ 0.24356304 = 0.7307 BTC [+]
Feb 19 11:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	This article was commissioned by Bitcoin Weekly, which ultimately decided to not run it1; it is based on my experiences May-June 2011
Feb 19 11:52:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00656793 = 13.1359 BTC [+]
Feb 19 11:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	seriously, the bitcoin detractor bunch has some bullshit written 18 months ago and is still rehashing it ?
Feb 19 11:53:19 <thestringpuller>	how is silk road a detractor?
Feb 19 11:53:24 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bc,convert baht
Feb 19 11:53:24 <gribble>	1 BTC = 29.10998 U.S. dollars = 869.811456 Thai baht
Feb 19 11:53:31 <thestringpuller>	why you hatin on silk road all the time
Feb 19 11:53:34 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bc,convert silver
Feb 19 11:53:35 <gribble>	1 BTC = Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
Feb 19 11:53:52 <DeadWeasel>	gwern's article is a good one.
Feb 19 11:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	the article != silkroad
Feb 19 11:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel i don't see it.
Feb 19 11:54:26 <DeadWeasel>	it gives the history and implications and a how-to guide.
Feb 19 11:54:47 <DeadWeasel>	I think it's great.  You want more people using BTC, silk road and satoshi dice are the attractice parts.
Feb 19 11:54:57 <DeadWeasel>	only if you can't buy it with dollars does the average person look to bitcoin
Feb 19 11:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	it gives a rehash of history that might have been interesting in 2011
Feb 19 11:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile its banal
Feb 19 11:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	the "implications" are nonsense, and the how-to guide is out of date
Feb 19 11:55:54 <Chaang-Noi>	silber 29.37 btc 29.1
Feb 19 11:58:13 <EskimoBob>	go fuck yourself Muppet Popescu or whine about it in your fucked up diary
Feb 19 11:58:40 <DeadWeasel>	it
Feb 19 11:59:00 <DeadWeasel>	is not banal to newcomers and those with an interest, which would be anybody who's just figured out this thing exists
Feb 19 11:59:17 <DeadWeasel>	well good morning EskimoBob !
Feb 19 12:00:00 <DeadWeasel>	i wouldn't be here without that article in it's original form, I have gotten several old friends in because of it.  It was the only one of it's kind back then.
Feb 19 12:00:12 <DeadWeasel>	the only way to grasp what was going on.
Feb 19 12:00:18 <mircea_popescu>	that may well be.
Feb 19 12:00:21 <DeadWeasel>	for somebody who did not already know.
Feb 19 12:00:31 <DeadWeasel>	it actually IS well be
Feb 19 12:00:32 <mircea_popescu>	however, beating the old cyberpunk + silkroad horse is getting old.
Feb 19 12:00:41 <EskimoBob>	DeadWeasel: good morning to you too
Feb 19 12:00:42 <DeadWeasel>	only to you, old fart
Feb 19 12:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	1. whatever subculture thinks is related to bitcoin is wrong.
Feb 19 12:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	2. silkroad is a vanishingly irrelevant application of bitcoin.
Feb 19 12:01:13 <mircea_popescu>	while its true bitcoin serves it exceedinly well, it's untrue that this is representative for bitcoin.
Feb 19 12:01:23 <DeadWeasel>	mircea_popescu: you're awfully full of your perceptions this morning.
Feb 19 12:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	o, i always am, just, it doesn't always equally show
Feb 19 12:01:49 <DeadWeasel>	well I'm glad you're having an ON day.
Feb 19 12:01:52 <EskimoBob>	turn on ignore... this shit is getting old, popescu.
Feb 19 12:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 19 12:02:11 <EskimoBob>	fkn egomaniac
Feb 19 12:02:12 <DeadWeasel>	but SR and the implications are a taproot and continue to supply new blood.
Feb 19 12:02:12 <coingenuity>	spam detected
Feb 19 12:02:21 <mircea_popescu>	among many, sure.
Feb 19 12:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, it's like insisting icecreamtrucks are particularly relevant to automotive industry.
Feb 19 12:02:42 <DeadWeasel>	we don't have solid numbers, so we are both ass-flapping
Feb 19 12:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	sure, it makes icecream trucks, which are the only practical way to deliver icecream
Feb 19 12:03:01 <DeadWeasel>	ice cream trucks aren't, but police cruisers are.
Feb 19 12:03:09 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 19 12:03:14 <DeadWeasel>	18 wheeler delivery trucks are
Feb 19 12:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	ok, that.
Feb 19 12:03:26 <DeadWeasel>	the first ford model A was very important
Feb 19 12:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	but sr is nowhere near 18 wheeler range.
Feb 19 12:03:30 <coingenuity>	spam detected
Feb 19 12:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is coingenuity up to
Feb 19 12:03:58 <DeadWeasel>	it was, it's more like a VW passenger van now, dropping off new inductees to the bitcoin shark-tank
Feb 19 12:04:16 <DeadWeasel>	he's detecting spam, obviously
Feb 19 12:04:16 <coingenuity>	spam detected
Feb 19 12:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 19 12:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	someone should do that but with stupid
Feb 19 12:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	"stupidity detected"
Feb 19 12:05:03 <DeadWeasel>	is coingenuity an admin? does this place have mods?
Feb 19 12:05:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-18/european-bank-ceo-admits-whole-thing-doomed
Feb 19 12:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news
Feb 19 12:05:50 <DeadWeasel>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-18/european-bank-ceo-admits-whole-thing-doomed
Feb 19 12:05:53 <DeadWeasel>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-18/european-bank-ceo-admits-whole-thing-doomed
Feb 19 12:06:02 <DeadWeasel>	oops, sorry
Feb 19 12:06:04 <DeadWeasel>	trying to copy
Feb 19 12:07:21 <DeadWeasel>	good article.
Feb 19 12:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	spam detected
Feb 19 12:08:08 <coingenuity>	spam detected
Feb 19 12:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
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Feb 19 12:16:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00615 = 0.0615 BTC [-]
Feb 19 12:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/path-of-exile/ btw, if anyone is interested in gaming.
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Feb 19 12:21:29 <kakobrekla>	BFL: If all goes well we will ship the first units this month. Those are the orders made last June. If you order now, because of the backlog of orders, you may not get your order until May or June of this year.
Feb 19 12:22:11 <kakobrekla>	nothing ever goes well, dont ya fuckin know it already.
Feb 19 12:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 19 12:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	tghey are so losing that 1.5k bet
Feb 19 12:25:27 <Chilca>	kakobrekla: how do you know they probably will ship this month?
Feb 19 12:25:41 <kakobrekla>	i know they probably wont.
Feb 19 12:26:26 <Chilca>	I'll loose my money :)
Feb 19 12:26:54 <kakobrekla>	hedge?
Feb 19 12:27:28 <Chilca>	I bought a minirig
Feb 19 12:27:45 <Chilca>	so stupid, next time I'll buy S.dice instead.
Feb 19 12:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, mining equipment is not yet buyable i dont think
Feb 19 12:30:50 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: if you pay 30k you can buy it.
Feb 19 12:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	where ?
Feb 19 12:31:05 <Chilca>	the problem is when are they going to ship it
Feb 19 12:31:07 <Chilca>	bfl
Feb 19 12:31:11 <jcpham>	http://stockfraudstory.blogspot.com/
Feb 19 12:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	that's not buying.
Feb 19 12:31:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5202 @ 0.00067 = 3.4853 BTC [-]
Feb 19 12:31:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [+]
Feb 19 12:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	buying is you send me the item i pay within 60 days
Feb 19 12:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's what buying is.
Feb 19 12:31:38 <Chilca>	ohh, right
Feb 19 12:31:46 <Chilca>	you can pre-order it
Feb 19 12:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, consider i pre-ordered it
Feb 19 12:31:54 <Chilca>	and maybe they are going to send it
Feb 19 12:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	within a month or so of delivery i'll pay.
Feb 19 12:32:14 <Chilca>	We paid them 4 months ago.
Feb 19 12:32:29 <mircea_popescu>	i think this is literally the only place on earth where people prepay.
Feb 19 12:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... even the fabs themselves, they invoice.
Feb 19 12:32:51 <Chilca>	yea! crazy guys!
Feb 19 12:36:43 <kakobrekla>	but they had pre chip costs, like fans and souch
Feb 19 12:37:00 <kakobrekla>	such*
Feb 19 12:37:31 <Chilca>	I understand that, but it's not serious that we pay and they don't say an exact date.
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Feb 19 12:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00673703 = 2.6948 BTC [+]
Feb 19 12:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00673704 = 13.4741 BTC [+]
Feb 19 12:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00673705 = 8.7582 BTC [+]
Feb 19 12:40:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.711 = 14.22 BTC [-]
Feb 19 12:40:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.71 = 17.04 BTC [-]
Feb 19 12:40:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.705 = 3.525 BTC [-]
Feb 19 12:40:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.703 = 2.109 BTC [-]
Feb 19 12:40:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.701 = 5.608 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 12:42:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00675 = 15.525 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 12:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	take a moment to relax : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136127837953.jpg
Feb 19 12:43:59 <coingenuity>	spam detected
Feb 19 12:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://coingenuity.sux
Feb 19 12:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	hm.
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Feb 19 12:44:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://google.com/blablabla
Feb 19 12:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/blablabla
Feb 19 12:45:17 <mircea_popescu>	a well, detector's broke
Feb 19 12:45:46 <DeadWeasel>	spam detected
Feb 19 12:45:47 <coingenuity>	spam detected
Feb 19 12:45:53 <DeadWeasel>	fixed it
Feb 19 12:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 19 12:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	ham infected
Feb 19 12:47:02 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: yeah, its actively keywording
Feb 19 12:47:08 <coingenuity>	under devel at the moment
Feb 19 12:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Feb 19 12:48:03 <coingenuity>	yeah, disabled keyword "spam"
Feb 19 12:48:10 <coingenuity>	(was testing with it last night)
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Feb 19 12:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	what's it for ?
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Feb 19 12:51:01 <pigeons>	if he can teach a program to irc he won't have to
Feb 19 12:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Feb 19 12:51:44 <DeadWeasel>	that would save you hours of time mircea_popescu
Feb 19 12:51:54 <DeadWeasel>	just create a condescending bot
Feb 19 12:51:55 <DeadWeasel>	:P
Feb 19 12:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	but i enjoy it!
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Feb 19 12:52:33 <Chaang-Noi>	silver was at 29.13 today
Feb 19 12:52:40 <Chaang-Noi>	btc was over that lol, just not at the same time
Feb 19 12:52:41 <Chaang-Noi>	crazy
Feb 19 12:52:42 <Bowjob>	so we reached parity?
Feb 19 12:52:48 <Chaang-Noi>	no
Feb 19 12:52:54 <DeadWeasel>	nearly
Feb 19 12:52:59 <Chaang-Noi>	damn close
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Feb 19 12:53:09 <DeadWeasel>	think usagi has something with his silver hedging?
Feb 19 12:53:25 <Bowjob>	yea i read his report
Feb 19 12:53:34 <pigeons>	parity when an arbitrary unit of measure in one thing equals the same arbitrary digit worth of unit in another arbitrary unit of measure
Feb 19 12:53:59 <DeadWeasel>	exactly@
Feb 19 12:55:03 <DeadWeasel>	if it's arbitrarily profitable is the question
Feb 19 12:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you sound like my bot :D
Feb 19 12:55:42 <Chaang-Noi>	its meaningless but fun
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Feb 19 12:56:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i can now go to the silver bugs and goo neener neener neener....
Feb 19 12:56:09 <Bowjob>	anyone here think bfl wont ship their stuff this feb?
Feb 19 12:56:24 <pigeons>	not much feb left
Feb 19 12:56:26 <Chaang-Noi>	lol m
Feb 19 12:56:27 <Chaang-Noi>	me
Feb 19 12:56:38 <Chaang-Noi>	they might get one or two units out the first week of marh
Feb 19 12:56:41 <Chaang-Noi>	march
Feb 19 12:56:47 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 19 12:56:58 <Bowjob>	im thinking of that big bet on bitbet
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Feb 19 12:57:06 <Bowjob>	maybe sneak in a ninja bet before they close
Feb 19 12:57:11 <Chaang-Noi>	link?
Feb 19 12:57:14 <Bowjob>	doesnt look like theyll ship
Feb 19 12:57:21 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/
Feb 19 12:57:31 <Bowjob>	I'll dump a few btc just before it closes
Feb 19 12:57:33 <Chaang-Noi>	oh i see
Feb 19 12:57:47 <Bowjob>	im almost certain they wont ship it.. but im being prudent
Feb 19 12:57:48 <DeadWeasel>	then your weighted avg is shit
Feb 19 12:58:00 <Bowjob>	doesnt matter if its a certain outcome
Feb 19 12:58:09 <DeadWeasel>	how do you mean?
Feb 19 12:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob ppl put like 7-800 btc on that theory.
Feb 19 12:58:18 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 19 12:58:27 <Bowjob>	im just waiting for another BFL josh delay
Feb 19 12:58:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 19 12:58:34 <Bowjob>	then its all free money after that
Feb 19 12:58:38 <pigeons>	bfl is waiting to see when to ship based on how much money they can make betting
Feb 19 12:58:40 <DeadWeasel>	you win the same amount if you bet months ago versus today?
Feb 19 12:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	course the weight is almost down by now
Feb 19 12:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel nope
Feb 19 12:59:00 <DeadWeasel>	that's what I though..  win less now..
Feb 19 12:59:09 <Bowjob>	but it doesnt matter, the risk is less and less
Feb 19 12:59:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00065582 = 7.2468 BTC [-]
Feb 19 12:59:24 <Bowjob>	you before it ends, sneak in a couple of btcs
Feb 19 13:00:04 <Bowjob>	i cursory look over bfl forums have josh saying he didnt hear from the bumping facility
Feb 19 13:00:57 <DeadWeasel>	no way is one delivered in the next 12 days.
Feb 19 13:01:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i just bet 7 on No
Feb 19 13:01:07 <Bowjob>	so is my idea good? ninja bet on that on no at the end
Feb 19 13:01:20 <DeadWeasel>	how does that work out in winnings?
Feb 19 13:01:27 <DeadWeasel>	if you bet way back versus now?
Feb 19 13:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel it's by weight.
Feb 19 13:01:59 <Bowjob>	closing in 2 days
Feb 19 13:02:00 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 19 13:02:11 <mircea_popescu>	if you bet 1 btc at 10k weight you will get 1/10 of what someone would betting 1 btc at 100k weight
Feb 19 13:02:20 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet 7, i wonder if i will get 9 when i win
Feb 19 13:02:22 <mircea_popescu>	so he bets 1 gets 2 you bet 1 get 1.1
Feb 19 13:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 7/9
Feb 19 13:02:44 <gribble>	0.777777777778
Feb 19 13:02:48 <Bowjob>	josh is saying he'll ship this feb
Feb 19 13:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 791/802
Feb 19 13:03:03 <gribble>	0.986284289277
Feb 19 13:03:09 <Chaang-Noi>	bet says recieved
Feb 19 13:03:17 <Chaang-Noi>	he can ship in feb and bet still is lost
Feb 19 13:03:20 <Bowjob>	someone bet 500 in yes
Feb 19 13:03:22 <Bowjob>	wtf
Feb 19 13:03:32 <Chaang-Noi>	bfi fan boi?
Feb 19 13:03:35 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl
Feb 19 13:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi it's a little over even, so if your weight is at least 13k then yes
Feb 19 13:03:37 <Bowjob>	that cant be a hedge
Feb 19 13:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob i imagine that'd be blf themselves
Feb 19 13:03:49 <DeadWeasel>	thanks mircea_popescu
Feb 19 13:03:55 <DeadWeasel>	i think i can!
Feb 19 13:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	they bet right at the time people were pointing out on forum
Feb 19 13:04:10 <Chaang-Noi>	mp Weighted No: 63`682`049
Feb 19 13:04:17 <mircea_popescu>	that' total.
Feb 19 13:04:22 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
Feb 19 13:04:38 <Chaang-Noi>	Current weight: 4`698 ( from 100`000 to 1 )
Feb 19 13:04:43 <Chaang-Noi>	lol i should not have bothered
Feb 19 13:04:56 <mircea_popescu>	so that'd be about 5% of the winnings of an origianl btc. like 1.05 or w/e
Feb 19 13:05:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's been open for like 6-7 weeks by now
Feb 19 13:06:06 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice made 437btc today, a lil better...
Feb 19 13:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00675 = 33.75 BTC [+]
Feb 19 13:07:14 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Feb 19 13:07:19 <Bugpowder>	1Hz5FxwF5XYk1Emqf43Q2Vo5uUzqb7BhtM
Feb 19 13:07:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.705 BTC [+]
Feb 19 13:07:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.701 = 1.402 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:07:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:07:27 <Bugpowder>	sheeeit
Feb 19 13:07:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.689 = 6.201 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:07:27 <Bugpowder>	new dice whale
Feb 19 13:07:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.6880001 = 6.192 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:07:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.686 = 18.522 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:07:37 <Bugpowder>	5k in the acccount
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Feb 19 13:08:03 <thestringpuller>	wooot
Feb 19 13:08:09 <Bowjob>	Ooh
Feb 19 13:08:12 <Bowjob>	A Dice whale
Feb 19 13:08:19 <ThickAsThieves>	evoorhees on vacation or something?
Feb 19 13:08:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen evoorhees
Feb 19 13:08:34 <gribble>	evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <evoorhees> perfect
Feb 19 13:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00675 = 33.75 BTC [+]
Feb 19 13:09:01 <thestringpuller>	no
Feb 19 13:09:05 <thestringpuller>	he's been in meetings all week
Feb 19 13:09:08 <Bugpowder>	1Hz5FxwF5XYk1Emqf43Q2Vo5uUzqb7BhtM
Feb 19 13:09:13 <thestringpuller>	have you emailed him?
Feb 19 13:10:01 <ThickAsThieves>	nah, I just had some sdice issues and noticed he was mia
Feb 19 13:10:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.686 = 6.86 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:10:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.685 = 1.37 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:10:25 <ThickAsThieves>	turns out my issue are probably just a borked wallet in satoshi client
Feb 19 13:10:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.681 = 10.215 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 13:13:08 <ThickAsThieves>	GOOG at $802
Feb 19 13:13:20 <ThickAsThieves>	in case anyone cares...
Feb 19 13:13:32 <Bowjob>	wow
Feb 19 13:13:42 <Bowjob>	thats all time high for good
Feb 19 13:13:43 <Bowjob>	good
Feb 19 13:13:45 <Bowjob>	google
Feb 19 13:13:49 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 19 13:13:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.68100000 / 0.7063588 / 0.75100000 (500 shares, 353.17940050 BTC), 7D: 0.68000000 / 0.72236295 / 0.75900000 (1089 shares, 786.65325357 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.65852069 / 0.89000000 (11020 shares, 7256.89796546 BTC)
Feb 19 13:13:52 <ThickAsThieves>	amazing in contrast to apple
Feb 19 13:14:06 <topace>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 19 13:14:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00638721 / 0.00678696 / 0.0069 (56633 shares, 384.37 BTC), 7D: 0.00598092 / 0.00637291 / 0.0069 (269728 shares, 1,718.95 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00584452 / 0.0075 (6663734 shares, 38,946.36 BTC)
Feb 19 13:14:13 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 19 13:14:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.66001, Best ask: 28.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 28.66001, 24 hour volume: 89315.22714423, 24 hour low: 26.59111, 24 hour high: 29.20000, 24 hour vwap: 27.83974
Feb 19 13:14:24 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 19 13:14:37 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222040 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1735 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 7 hours, 51 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
Feb 19 13:14:42 <Bowjob>	I was about to buy 7k worth of apple shares
Feb 19 13:14:47 <topace>	wow havelock sdice 24h volume is almost same as mpex sdice 24h volume
Feb 19 13:14:51 <Bowjob>	good thing the brokerage fee was effing high
Feb 19 13:16:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i went heavier on goog at like half this price luckily, i am down a fair amount from apple tho...
Feb 19 13:16:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll stick out though
Feb 19 13:16:40 <ThickAsThieves>	it
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Feb 19 13:17:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.68 = 15.64 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00656793 = 6.5679 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:31:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064609 = 10.3374 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 884 @ 0.00064608 = 0.5711 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:31:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00064574 = 4.4233 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:31:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25239 @ 0.00064548 = 16.2913 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:31:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00064362 = 4.4088 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064 = 1.92 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:35:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 19 13:35:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.75511, Best ask: 29.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24489, Last trade: 29.00000, 24 hour volume: 90437.91974337, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.20000, 24 hour vwap: 27.86604
Feb 19 13:35:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C270T] 1000 @ 0.08449039 = 84.4904 BTC
Feb 19 13:35:22 <Bowjob>	so, 30 dollars by end of this week?
Feb 19 13:35:31 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Feb 19 13:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00656793 = 2.6272 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:36:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00656792 = 3.9408 BTC [-]
Feb 19 13:36:08 <DeadWeasel>	another psychological barrier, especially after this quick rise from 20
Feb 19 13:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C260T] 1000 @ 0.11217576 = 112.1758 BTC
Feb 19 13:36:25 <Bowjob>	I the btc-e people were qqing about it
Feb 19 13:36:34 <DeadWeasel>	lots will be ready to dump I think, assuming 2011 bubble pop
Feb 19 13:36:46 <error4733>	thursday night on us
Feb 19 13:36:59 <error4733>	coffee break mt gox time
Feb 19 13:37:01 <Bowjob>	wont they dump on 29 then
Feb 19 13:37:10 <Bowjob>	to one up the market
Feb 19 13:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C250T] 1000 @ 0.14430512 = 144.3051 BTC
Feb 19 13:37:34 <topace>	good thing cavirtex has stop-limit orders now.. i can place stop-loss orders and not worry about the big crash
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Feb 19 13:49:22 <Bugpowder>	29.30
Feb 19 13:49:47 <error4733>	29.343
Feb 19 13:50:06 <error4733>	burn*
Feb 19 13:50:36 <ThickAsThieves>	passed silver?
Feb 19 13:50:44 <error4733>	30 today ?
Feb 19 13:50:51 <ThickAsThieves>	could be
Feb 19 13:51:18 <error4733>	29.40 for silver
Feb 19 13:51:24 <error4733>	soooooo close
Feb 19 13:51:46 <kakobrekla>	ping me or mp when it happens
Feb 19 13:56:05 <kakobrekla>	knock knock.
Feb 19 13:56:31 <error4733>	29.400
Feb 19 13:56:39 <error4733>	CMON
Feb 19 13:58:03 <mod6>	;;ticker
Feb 19 13:58:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.22013, Best ask: 29.27000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04987, Last trade: 29.22013, 24 hour volume: 91521.57584689, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.39999, 24 hour vwap: 27.88963
Feb 19 13:58:33 <mod6>	HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN
Feb 19 13:58:50 <Bugpowder>	BOOM
Feb 19 13:58:52 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 19 13:58:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.22013, Best ask: 29.35283, Bid-ask spread: 0.13270, Last trade: 29.22013, 24 hour volume: 92639.08839484, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.50000, 24 hour vwap: 27.90838
Feb 19 14:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C250T] 1000 @ 0.14597395 = 145.974 BTC [+]
Feb 19 14:03:28 <DeadWeasel>	usagi
Feb 19 14:03:37 <DeadWeasel>	usagi
Feb 19 14:03:39 <DeadWeasel>	usagi
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Feb 19 14:05:40 <error4733>	;;ticker
Feb 19 14:05:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.51000, Best ask: 29.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 29.55000, 24 hour volume: 92840.17098132, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.55000, 24 hour vwap: 27.91427
Feb 19 14:05:47 <Bugpowder>	30
Feb 19 14:05:51 <Bugpowder>	is coming
Feb 19 14:06:26 <kakobrekla>	it just doenst wanna take a break :)
Feb 19 14:07:36 <Bowjob>	umm
Feb 19 14:07:47 <Bowjob>	so it reached parity today?
Feb 19 14:07:49 <Bowjob>	with silver??
Feb 19 14:07:52 <Bugpowder>	yes
Feb 19 14:07:56 <Bugpowder>	blew past it
Feb 19 14:08:58 <kakobrekla>	my quote for silver is 29.460 aks curretnly
Feb 19 14:09:02 <kakobrekla>	ask
Feb 19 14:09:17 <kakobrekla>	well brb
Feb 19 14:10:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0064 = 0.0128 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 14:13:31 <Bowjob>	whats silvers spot price
Feb 19 14:13:52 <Bugpowder>	http://www.kitcosilver.com/charts/24hoursspot.html
Feb 19 14:14:17 <Bowjob>	silver tanked O_O
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Feb 19 14:19:24 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 19 14:19:26 <gribble>	27.90
Feb 19 14:19:56 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 19 14:19:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.27001, Best ask: 29.39999, Bid-ask spread: 0.12998, Last trade: 29.27001, 24 hour volume: 92826.40266463, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.55000, 24 hour vwap: 27.92089
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Feb 19 14:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00674199 = 13.484 BTC [+]
Feb 19 14:22:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.691 = 1.382 BTC [+]
Feb 19 14:22:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.69 = 12.42 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 14:33:26 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 19 14:33:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.31001, Best ask: 29.48987, Bid-ask spread: 0.17986, Last trade: 29.48987, 24 hour volume: 93237.04374245, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.55000, 24 hour vwap: 27.93089
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Feb 19 14:44:56 <jurov>	as if it wanted to go 30 tonight
Feb 19 14:45:07 <Bugpowder>	fuck it
Feb 19 14:45:09 <Bugpowder>	lets go to 50
Feb 19 14:45:19 <Bugpowder>	thank you coinbase
Feb 19 14:45:52 <Bugpowder>	every afternoon they email my friend saying they sold out all their coins available for the day.
Feb 19 14:46:13 <wao>	;;ticker
Feb 19 14:46:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.45001, Best ask: 29.48999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03998, Last trade: 29.48999, 24 hour volume: 94344.71113133, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.55000, 24 hour vwap: 27.95419
Feb 19 14:46:22 <jurov>	why can't they just raise price?
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Feb 19 14:46:49 <jurov>	if i understand correctly, they follow mtgox?
Feb 19 14:47:15 <DeadWeasel>	they do
Feb 19 14:48:22 <jurov>	then they end up buying btc on mtgox at higher price, no?
Feb 19 14:48:43 <jurov>	strange
Feb 19 14:49:23 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 19 14:49:33 <Bugpowder>	they are selling out every day
Feb 19 14:50:40 <pigeons>	yeah they lose a little on each sale but they make it up on volume
Feb 19 14:51:33 <jurov>	how can they "make it up on volume"?
Feb 19 14:51:54 <pigeons>	;)
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Feb 19 14:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 19 14:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	what's the deal with coinbase anyway
Feb 19 14:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	the only btc thing to take ycombinator funds, the only btc  thing to sorta suck ?
Feb 19 14:53:08 <Bowjob>	http://ca.news.yahoo.com/meteorite-rush-begins-russian-scientists-fragments-111415119.html
Feb 19 14:53:19 <Bowjob>	forget about bitcoins, lets look for that meteorite and get rich!!
Feb 19 14:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	meteorically so.
Feb 19 14:53:53 <jurov>	;;seen diablo-d3
Feb 19 14:53:53 <gribble>	diablo-d3 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 18 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <Diablo-D3> its a cat grin
Feb 19 14:54:06 <jurov>	prolly diablo went to look for it
Feb 19 14:54:18 <Bowjob>	its in russia.. we gotta wear sum coats
Feb 19 14:54:41 <jurov>	sum coats?
Feb 19 14:54:45 <pigeons>	"we aren't an exchange. we're a sucky web wallet that keeps your private key serverside. but no one uses us as a wallet they use us as an exchange for a certain type of customer. but really we're a wallet."
Feb 19 14:55:05 <Bowjob>	russian winter is quite nasty
Feb 19 14:55:26 <Bowjob>	if we look for the meteorite we may stay there for quite a while..
Feb 19 14:55:27 <kakobrekla>	pigeons?
Feb 19 14:55:36 <pigeons>	that's what coinbase always says
Feb 19 14:56:45 <jurov>	okay. but that isn't helping me wrap my head about that mtgox-price-based business model
Feb 19 14:56:54 <Bugpowder>	They are reddit's preferred purchasing method
Feb 19 14:57:03 <pigeons>	nuff said
Feb 19 14:57:07 <kakobrekla>	so for idiots.
Feb 19 14:57:19 <Bugpowder>	yes
Feb 19 14:57:25 <Bugpowder>	people that are buying coins at $29.50
Feb 19 14:57:32 <Bugpowder>	insteady of $2.90
Feb 19 14:57:47 <Bugpowder>	kids with braces
Feb 19 14:57:50 <jurov>	for example, i know how i sell MPBPT practically for free and still end up with profit. but i somehow don't get this.
Feb 19 14:57:57 <pigeons>	they are "growth hackers" whatever that is
Feb 19 14:59:19 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons totally.
Feb 19 14:59:22 <Bowjob>	ehem. 5 years later.. people are buying coins at 2950 dollars, instead of 290 dollars
Feb 19 14:59:25 <Bowjob>	kids with braces
Feb 19 14:59:32 <kakobrekla>	:D
Feb 19 14:59:37 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: what
Feb 19 15:00:03 <Anduck>	Bugpowder: it's wiser to buy coins at 29.50 than 129.50
Feb 19 15:00:19 <Anduck>	ohh
Feb 19 15:00:22 <Anduck>	someone mentioned ma point
Feb 19 15:01:44 <kakobrekla>	dat braces kid will have gold teeth sooner or later.
Feb 19 15:01:48 <Bugpowder>	Well, I hope they are all quite wise
Feb 19 15:01:51 <jurov>	Diablo-D3 haven't you get meteorite rush?
Feb 19 15:01:53 <Bugpowder>	buying at 29.5
Feb 19 15:01:56 <kakobrekla>	prolly best to just take the braces off.
Feb 19 15:02:03 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: no?
Feb 19 15:02:12 <Diablo-D3>	those have no value to me
Feb 19 15:02:32 <pigeons>	rob the bitcoin store tell em make me a grill
Feb 19 15:03:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063879 = 6.3879 BTC [-]
Feb 19 15:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1004 @ 0.00063878 = 0.6413 BTC [-]
Feb 19 15:04:32 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 19 15:04:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.30301, Best ask: 29.47999, Bid-ask spread: 0.17698, Last trade: 29.30301, 24 hour volume: 94559.98577758, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.55000, 24 hour vwap: 27.96753
Feb 19 15:04:46 <Anduck>	volume is good
Feb 19 15:05:23 <Bowjob>	wheres that gigantic candle :)
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Feb 19 15:07:13 <Bowjob>	http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Wb5fuSmJTuQ/UQmCRnFIMCI/AAAAAAAAQmY/eSRAkiBGlYM/s1600/Green-candle3.jpg
Feb 19 15:08:36 <Anduck>	Cu lights green
Feb 19 15:08:37 <Anduck>	burns
Feb 19 15:09:49 <jurov>	*throws burning potssium in*
Feb 19 15:09:58 <jurov>	potassium
Feb 19 15:10:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 14 @ 0.00067 = 0.0094 BTC [-]
Feb 19 15:10:28 <Bugpowder>	The candle is on the 1 day
Feb 19 15:10:52 <DeadWeasel>	Coinbase Re-fucked me.  The pending transactions I had disappeared from my account history
Feb 19 15:11:05 <DeadWeasel>	so i'm down $1300 and no record of the purchase except my bank acct
Feb 19 15:11:08 <DeadWeasel>	fuckin A
Feb 19 15:12:33 <Diablo-D3>	then go talk to your bank?
Feb 19 15:14:34 <Bugpowder>	BItcoinQT v0.80 is using 720% of my CPU
Feb 19 15:14:37 <Bugpowder>	very impressive
Feb 19 15:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 19 15:18:03 <dub>	this is scary
Feb 19 15:18:12 <dub>	two FB threads about buttcoin lately
Feb 19 15:19:16 <dub>	we need an apocalypse nao
Feb 19 15:19:53 <dub>	51% asicminer panic, devs acting against dice, anything
Feb 19 15:19:56 <Bowjob>	the ltc people over at btc-e are predicting a massive sell off tomorrow
Feb 19 15:20:38 <jurov>	like, everyone dumping btc in favor of ltc?
Feb 19 15:20:52 <Bowjob>	they are saying sell btc now, crash incoming
Feb 19 15:21:19 <DeadWeasel>	I'm trying to get my 50BTC first
Feb 19 15:21:19 <Bowjob>	not necessarily in favour of ltc, but they like ltc who who knows
Feb 19 15:21:28 <DeadWeasel>	since it's work $5 more than I paid for it then.
Feb 19 15:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	last s.mpoe price 0.00066666 heh
Feb 19 15:23:43 <DeadWeasel>	who cares what ltc people think
Feb 19 15:23:44 <DeadWeasel>	nobody
Feb 19 15:25:39 <Bugpowder>	fuc yes
Feb 19 15:26:14 <Bugpowder>	Lets do this
Feb 19 15:26:18 <Bugpowder>	$33
Feb 19 15:26:20 <Bugpowder>	or bust
Feb 19 15:26:27 <Bowjob>	you mean 3000
Feb 19 15:26:41 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 19 15:26:41 <Bugpowder>	I mean by Friday
Feb 19 15:26:46 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 19 15:26:50 <Bowjob>	33 is a little too rich
Feb 19 15:27:07 <Bowjob>	i mean, right now the orders look like its smooth sailing if we break 30
Feb 19 15:27:18 <Bowjob>	but theres gonna be resistance futher,
Feb 19 15:27:35 <Bugpowder>	yes of course
Feb 19 15:28:16 <Bowjob>	30 is the conservative target
Feb 19 15:28:20 <Bowjob>	31.. optimistic, 32, thats pushing it
Feb 19 15:28:28 <Bowjob>	33.. well. shit
Feb 19 15:28:34 <Bugpowder>	32
Feb 19 15:28:40 <Bugpowder>	31.9.09
Feb 19 15:28:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 19 15:28:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.62001, Best ask: 29.63001, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 29.63001, 24 hour volume: 95220.61306534, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 27.99449
Feb 19 15:28:44 <Bugpowder>	31.909
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Feb 19 15:54:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 19 15:54:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.36903, Best ask: 29.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03097, Last trade: 29.40000, 24 hour volume: 95677.19212308, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.01492
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Feb 19 15:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 19 15:59:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.31596, Best ask: 29.36020, Bid-ask spread: 0.04424, Last trade: 29.31700, 24 hour volume: 95898.29879253, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.01890
Feb 19 15:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	oops lol
Feb 19 16:00:01 <jurov>	twas muscle memory
Feb 19 16:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 19 16:02:40 <EskimoBob>	Channel 4  - Utopia
Feb 19 16:09:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1177 @ 0.00064 = 0.7533 BTC [+]
Feb 19 16:09:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.0006507 = 0.911 BTC [+]
Feb 19 16:09:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00065582 = 5.181 BTC [+]
Feb 19 16:09:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9323 @ 0.00065828 = 6.1371 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 16:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 636 @ 0.00063878 = 0.4063 BTC [-]
Feb 19 16:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063878 = 2.108 BTC [-]
Feb 19 16:17:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1458 @ 0.00063859 = 0.9311 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 16:26:08 <mod6>	lol
Feb 19 16:26:08 <mod6>	(13:25) < btc123> MPEX is stupid.  he should price membership in fiat, not BTC.... whats gonna happen when BTC=$1000 each?  $40,000 to get an account and trade?. mira popescecu is a huge egomanic idiot
Feb 19 16:26:19 <mod6>	(13:25) < btc123> i'm gonna make btc123EX just to spite him. membership == free
Feb 19 16:26:23 <mod6>	(13:25) < btc123> fuck mpex
Feb 19 16:26:45 <mod6>	he also said that they're making a BTC ETF for the QQQ too, so lol
Feb 19 16:27:05 <kakobrekla>	what chan is this from
Feb 19 16:27:16 <mod6>	otc
Feb 19 16:27:54 <FabianB>	QQQ? what's that?
Feb 19 16:28:00 <dub>	otc is deprecated
Feb 19 16:28:10 <Bugpowder>	nasdaq etf
Feb 19 16:28:37 <mod6>	(12:32) < btc123> its mainstream now.  the  NASDAQ is adding a Bitcoin ETF next week... buy buy buy
Feb 19 16:28:43 <Bugpowder>	Lol
Feb 19 16:28:47 <Bugpowder>	yeah fucking right
Feb 19 16:28:56 <mod6>	(12:32) <+mod6> haha, no way.
Feb 19 16:29:16 <Bugpowder>	We would gap up to $100 / BTC
Feb 19 16:29:48 <mod6>	he's just trollin
Feb 19 16:30:02 <mod6>	...he certainly didn't cite anything
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Feb 19 16:30:49 <mod6>	(13:29) < btc123> it will be ready by april 1
Feb 19 16:30:56 <mod6>	(13:30) < btc123> its going to be called FMPEX (fuck mpex)
Feb 19 16:31:00 <mod6>	there should be a bbet on this
Feb 19 16:31:04 <dub>	ah undernet.  -G(announce@undernet.org)- What is a TROLL? The UnderNet User-Committee Class Project presents our LIVE Q/A & CHAT session.
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Feb 19 16:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> otc is deprecated << this.
Feb 19 16:33:40 <kakobrekla>	and im gonna rethink the no ban policy here.
Feb 19 16:33:51 <kakobrekla>	its this is getting out of hand at a times.
Feb 19 16:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	i wish it entered into record that the 123th or so idiot doing "an exchange" just "to spite me" is very effective. i am all spited and everything.
Feb 19 16:34:01 <Bugpowder>	truffles?
Feb 19 16:34:20 <kakobrekla>	yea, and a couple of others along
Feb 19 16:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla what's wrong with people fillingtheir ignore lists ?
Feb 19 16:34:43 <mircea_popescu>	i mean other than other people discussing with the idiots so you end up with a long convo in which someone is apparently talking to themself.
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Feb 19 16:36:15 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu it helps noone to have some strange and confusing echoes on the chan
Feb 19 16:36:31 <kakobrekla>	add useless to that
Feb 19 16:36:42 <jurov>	peeps are selling options on -otc for prices 3x C350N .. i couldn't resist
Feb 19 16:36:52 <mod6>	lol
Feb 19 16:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol.
Feb 19 16:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	it's maybe out of spite :D
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Feb 19 16:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00063859 = 6.6413 BTC [-]
Feb 19 16:39:02 <mircea_popescu>	unrelatedly, i absolutely LOVE people trying to escalate a request for "help" whereby they didn't read the faq
Feb 19 16:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	into a thread of dicussion where they inform the presumably mouth-agape site ops of how the world works.
Feb 19 16:39:47 <jurov>	[22:32] <FonziScheme> mpex prices page hurts my brain to look at
Feb 19 16:39:47 <kakobrekla>	what was it this time
Feb 19 16:40:10 <jurov>	^they don't read faq since their brain hurts
Feb 19 16:40:18 <kakobrekla>	y u skip my cynical comment
Feb 19 16:40:54 <mod6>	heheh
Feb 19 16:41:02 <kakobrekla>	anywho cant wait for btc123 securities exchange
Feb 19 16:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla just some knowitall dood, explaining why intrade system " would seem to have all of
Feb 19 16:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	the advantages and none of the disadvantages of the system you've selected"
Feb 19 16:41:19 <mircea_popescu>	completely blind to the fact that on such a system you can't buy more than what someone sells/etc
Feb 19 16:41:20 <kakobrekla>	ah that thing, again.
Feb 19 16:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	and obviously not being aware whart it's called. he has some bullshit (self developed ?) examples
Feb 19 16:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	basically a horde of maybe 1-500 mn people are marginally self aware enough to use a spoon (but not a fork) and windows, and they're running around explaining why everything should be made out of spoons running windows.
Feb 19 16:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile the real world happily churns away on linux, using forks and knives.
Feb 19 16:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	and the two shall never meet.
Feb 19 16:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	the end.
Feb 19 16:43:04 <dub>	not to mention the billions still using a pair of sticks to eat
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Feb 19 16:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	dub omg stop puncturing my well constructed analogies
Feb 19 16:43:58 <jurov>	lol\
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Feb 19 16:51:15 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 19 16:51:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.03000, Best ask: 29.09839, Bid-ask spread: 0.06839, Last trade: 29.23900, 24 hour volume: 98549.45901109, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.08445
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Feb 19 16:55:01 <jborkl>	-otc makes my head hurtmore than mpex any day
Feb 19 16:56:23 <Bugpowder>	I'd say we are due for another leg up...
Feb 19 16:56:47 <Bugpowder>	It's been over an hour
Feb 19 16:57:05 <mod6>	fair enough haha
Feb 19 16:57:07 *	kakobrekla puts both his legs up
Feb 19 16:57:13 <kakobrekla>	oh wait that didnt come out right.
Feb 19 16:57:16 <Bugpowder>	Third leg up
Feb 19 16:57:21 <mod6>	then there is this gem:
Feb 19 16:57:22 <mod6>	(13:52) <+FonziScheme> maybe what's bothered me is that I thought this "1`000" meant 1.000 (one) , maybe it means 1,000 (thousand)?  http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P300T
Feb 19 16:57:49 <mod6>	all this dudes hatred over a simple grave.
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Feb 19 16:58:18 <jurov>	actually it looks i put a proverbial bug into someone's head
Feb 19 16:58:45 <mod6>	haha. you have much more patience than i do :D
Feb 19 16:59:11 <jurov>	lol but when i said  "if you can raise thousands of btcs like mpoe does... no problem" looks like he lost interest
Feb 19 16:59:23 <jurov>	i'll leave it there
Feb 19 16:59:31 <mod6>	haha. werd.
Feb 19 16:59:43 <dub>	the pocket money mom gives him isnt goign to cover that
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Feb 19 17:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol i like how Bugpowder's predictions match his book
Feb 19 17:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	1`000 totally means 1.
Feb 19 17:15:10 <Bugpowder>	?
Feb 19 17:16:17 <truffles>	[23:33] <kakobrekla> and im gonna rethink the no ban policy here. <--glad i could help make some more penis lenghtening rules
Feb 19 17:17:07 <kakobrekla>	is not like it put your name fwd :)
Feb 19 17:17:18 <kakobrekla>	s/it/i
Feb 19 17:17:57 <truffles>	meh its not news, internet seem more restrictive than irl at times
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Feb 19 17:18:24 <kakobrekla>	yes this place is horrible.
Feb 19 17:18:41 <assbot>	 terrible is what it is.
Feb 19 17:19:04 <truffles>	nah i already said this was the most tolerant room ive been in
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Feb 19 17:19:18 <Bugpowder>	you should just get some bitcoins dude
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Feb 19 17:19:55 <truffles>	spectator sport for me
Feb 19 17:19:59 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 19 17:19:59 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
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Feb 19 17:20:05 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 19 17:20:07 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222063 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1712 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 10 hours, 32 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4099609.80093 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.28696
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Feb 19 17:20:26 <thestringpuller>	by X.IDIFF
Feb 19 17:21:30 <kakobrekla>	then spectate, dont speak.
Feb 19 17:21:40 <truffles>	why
Feb 19 17:22:05 <kakobrekla>	cause you are annoying to people
Feb 19 17:22:12 <truffles>	the logger has me on ignore so whats the problem
Feb 19 17:22:41 <dub>	why should everyone else have to work to stop being annoyed by you
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Feb 19 17:22:55 <kakobrekla>	if enough people ignore you, means its ripe for ban.
Feb 19 17:23:00 <dub>	when you could just not annoy people
Feb 19 17:23:35 <truffles>	ppl hardly speak in here its interesting to me
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Feb 19 17:24:04 <kakobrekla>	doesnt mean you should pour shit on the table
Feb 19 17:24:07 *	JWU_42 rolls a firecracker in the room and runs away
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Feb 19 17:24:29 <kakobrekla>	JWU_42 i saw dat!
Feb 19 17:24:32 <truffles>	dub and mp who else?`
Feb 19 17:24:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i have a feeling you guys are talking to someone I already have ignored
Feb 19 17:24:45 <kakobrekla>	i had you on ignore for a day or two
Feb 19 17:24:51 <kakobrekla>	until diablo started to talk to himself
Feb 19 17:24:51 <dub>	truffles: have you tried #bitcoin-otc? they encourage retardation
Feb 19 17:24:55 <kakobrekla>	for extended period of time
Feb 19 17:25:09 *	JWU_42 has to be quicker next time
Feb 19 17:25:18 <truffles>	if u want to ignore someone thats what the button is for
Feb 19 17:25:23 <truffles>	its even meaner to say it though
Feb 19 17:25:44 <pigeons>	no when you say it it gives the person valuable feedback about his douchery
Feb 19 17:25:59 <truffles>	im being a douche?
Feb 19 17:26:25 <ThickAsThieves>	can I ask who smickles is? he gets a lot of ";;seen"
Feb 19 17:26:45 <kakobrekla>	he is a offline mpex broker
Feb 19 17:26:48 <kakobrekla>	something like that
Feb 19 17:27:13 <ThickAsThieves>	thx
Feb 19 17:27:56 <jcpham>	dub is funny
Feb 19 17:28:14 <dub>	your face is funny
Feb 19 17:28:18 <truffles>	i will consider this feedback whether its about my anti bitcon stance or if its cuz im just annoying
Feb 19 17:28:26 <assbot>	 NO U!
Feb 19 17:28:35 <jcpham>	truffles u like bitcoins
Feb 19 17:28:51 <truffles>	to an extent
Feb 19 17:28:55 <pigeons>	i seriously thought you were the biggest bitcoin fanboi in the channel
Feb 19 17:29:13 <truffles>	lol no
Feb 19 17:29:22 <pigeons>	you sure act like one
Feb 19 17:29:24 <jcpham>	truffles all of these guys are trolls
Feb 19 17:29:42 <jcpham>	gals too
Feb 19 17:30:20 <truffles>	well its more than 1 person who actively speak in chat so im gonna try to observe myself ..
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Feb 19 17:30:23 <jcpham>	bring your light to me truffles
Feb 19 17:30:29 <jcpham>	i can be trusted
Feb 19 17:30:38 <truffles>	hehe
Feb 19 17:30:55 <truffles>	im not evil at least
Feb 19 17:31:04 <kakobrekla>	truffles this chan went a days without a word and we like it that way.
Feb 19 17:31:22 <kakobrekla>	-a
Feb 19 17:31:34 <kakobrekla>	cant type for shit.
Feb 19 17:31:39 *	jcpham words all over the place
Feb 19 17:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16777 @ 0.00065828 = 11.044 BTC [+]
Feb 19 17:31:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7123 @ 0.00066664 = 4.7485 BTC [+]
Feb 19 17:31:58 <truffles>	well its a channel designed to allow communication
Feb 19 17:32:11 <truffles>	unless lots of private communication
Feb 19 17:32:14 *	jcpham cracks the door to let some of the -otc funk in
Feb 19 17:32:14 <kakobrekla>	unfortanetly it also allows noise to pass
Feb 19 17:33:06 <truffles>	is it like the beach where ppl just go to bask in the silence
Feb 19 17:34:09 <truffles>	jcpham im not sure which side ure on here
Feb 19 17:34:35 *	jcpham is on jcpham's side
Feb 19 17:34:43 *	jcpham jcphams
Feb 19 17:35:16 <truffles>	i guess i will leave the room to mp spam
Feb 19 17:35:22 <jcpham>	no!
Feb 19 17:35:35 <jcpham>	one does not simply /part the channel
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Feb 19 17:36:08 <truffles>	its not a permanent thing for me
Feb 19 17:36:18 <truffles>	we'll see if i make it past the month
Feb 19 17:36:31 <jcpham>	did you just learn about bitcoin?
Feb 19 17:36:40 <truffles>	yea 2 weeks ago
Feb 19 17:36:48 <jcpham>	that's neat
Feb 19 17:36:57 <truffles>	counting the episode of tv show
Feb 19 17:37:10 <jcpham>	you mean the CBS show the good wife?
Feb 19 17:37:15 <truffles>	yea
Feb 19 17:37:20 <truffles>	i thought it was just a tv show thing heh
Feb 19 17:37:24 <jcpham>	the episode from 2011 or early 2012 right?
Feb 19 17:37:26 <Diablo-D3>	lol people stil lremember that?
Feb 19 17:37:32 <Diablo-D3>	2011
Feb 19 17:37:33 <jcpham>	i remeber the timeframe
Feb 19 17:37:37 <truffles>	its one of my fav shows
Feb 19 17:37:41 <Diablo-D3>	that was fucking hilarious
Feb 19 17:37:44 <Diablo-D3>	everyone was like
Feb 19 17:37:47 <jcpham>	127.09.01
Feb 19 17:37:49 <Diablo-D3>	ITS GOING TO MAKE BITCOIN FAMOUS
Feb 19 17:37:51 <jcpham>	satoshi's ip
Feb 19 17:37:56 <Diablo-D3>	it did _noootthiiiinnnnggg_
Feb 19 17:38:05 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Feb 19 17:38:09 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: home sweet home
Feb 19 17:38:10 <kakobrekla>	it brought us truffles
Feb 19 17:38:17 <kakobrekla>	you call that nothing?
Feb 19 17:38:18 <truffles>	nah word press did
Feb 19 17:38:19 <jcpham>	Diablo-D3 is a true hater truffles
Feb 19 17:38:20 <truffles>	2 weeks ago
Feb 19 17:38:21 <jcpham>	watch yourself
Feb 19 17:38:29 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: like I said, it did nothing
Feb 19 17:39:10 <kakobrekla>	to what i can measure, its a negative influence.
Feb 19 17:40:45 <jcpham>	negative and positive have no bearing on the inevitable
Feb 19 17:41:58 <kakobrekla>	jcpham just dont shut dont the matrix just yet
Feb 19 17:42:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.74399999 = 4.464 BTC [+]
Feb 19 17:42:36 <jcpham>	the adoption of philosophical principles long forgotten keep the matrix churning
Feb 19 17:42:42 <jcpham>	god is the blockchain
Feb 19 17:43:29 <truffles>	principles such as
Feb 19 17:43:36 <jcpham>	good drives adoption just like bad, either can be excluded
Feb 19 17:43:48 <jcpham>	principles such as morals. which are a toin coss at best
Feb 19 17:44:09 <jcpham>	that was 4 lines of atlas chat
Feb 19 17:44:14 <jcpham>	g'night muthafuckas
Feb 19 17:44:21 <truffles>	lol
Feb 19 17:44:36 <dub>	jcpham == atlas
Feb 19 17:44:50 <jcpham>	pretty sure i just proved it
Feb 19 17:45:22 <dub>	this is why we can't have nice rota's
Feb 19 17:45:47 <jcpham>	i can be much worse
Feb 19 17:45:56 <kakobrekla>	glad im out of the reasoning.
Feb 19 17:46:49 <jcpham>	truffles i know how to scam mpex
Feb 19 17:46:57 <jcpham>	100btc and I'll teach you
Feb 19 17:47:06 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Feb 19 17:47:10 <truffles>	i just seek understanding
Feb 19 17:47:17 <truffles>	for ppl or things i find interesting
Feb 19 17:47:28 <jcpham>	oh well i'm not interesting
Feb 19 17:47:40 <truffles>	everyone is interesting to me..
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Feb 19 17:48:16 <dub>	sadly you are not interesting to anyone
Feb 19 17:48:18 <pigeons>	STACK IS TEH INNOCENT!
Feb 19 17:48:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.74399999 = 1.488 BTC [+]
Feb 19 17:48:26 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu calls me names and treats me poorly all the time
Feb 19 17:48:45 <kakobrekla>	one meal a day.
Feb 19 17:48:48 <dub>	much like EskimoBob adding _afk to his nick, not a single fuck given
Feb 19 17:48:59 <truffles>	mp doesnt seem very nice at all
Feb 19 17:49:10 <truffles>	i think he'd be just as unpleasant poor
Feb 19 17:49:26 <jurov>	what exactly truffles did?
Feb 19 17:49:48 <kakobrekla>	yeah EskimoBob_afk cut that shit, noone gives afk fuck.
Feb 19 17:49:51 <dub>	decreased SNR
Feb 19 17:50:15 <kakobrekla>	this is the fourth reich!
Feb 19 17:50:19 <EskimoBob_afk>	I guess you 2 retards do give a fuck :)
Feb 19 17:50:24 <EskimoBob_afk>	LOL!
Feb 19 17:50:27 <truffles>	what i did? not join the SA trolling i dunno
Feb 19 17:50:29 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 19 17:50:51 <jurov>	i consider him harmless.. truffles is like white noise, almost soothing
Feb 19 17:50:53 <kakobrekla>	ya srs EskimoBob_afk, stop afk polution
Feb 19 17:50:54 <jcpham>	i'm only here to start shit and cause fights
Feb 19 17:51:02 <jcpham>	idontknowwhatimdoing.jpg
Feb 19 17:51:03 <jurov>	unlike EskimoBob_afk
Feb 19 17:51:19 <truffles>	yall so sensitive
Feb 19 17:51:22 <jurov>	that's like loud static
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Feb 19 17:51:28 <dub>	jurov: we must preserve the purity of -assets
Feb 19 17:51:47 <kakobrekla>	the machines are comming.
Feb 19 17:52:09 <jcpham>	hang out here long enought truffles and someone might impersonate you
Feb 19 17:52:21 <jcpham>	maybe we'll get a truffles`
Feb 19 17:52:29 <truffles>	lol
Feb 19 17:52:32 <truffles>	flattery imo
Feb 19 17:52:40 *	jurov eats truffles. delicious.
Feb 19 17:52:41 <jcpham>	there's a jcpham` running around scammin folks i here
Feb 19 17:52:45 <jcpham>	*hear
Feb 19 17:52:57 <truffles>	i have no money so its not me
Feb 19 17:52:57 <jurov>	yeah. and 1`000 is a scammer, too
Feb 19 17:53:16 <jcpham>	/nickserv info jcpham` isn't me
Feb 19 17:53:17 <kakobrekla>	milk is clean.
Feb 19 17:53:23 <pigeons>	and milk`
Feb 19 17:53:28 <dub>	milk is murder
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Feb 19 17:53:41 <jcpham>	i wonder if dub` is taken
Feb 19 17:54:06 <truffles>	jcpham i actually waited for that utube video
Feb 19 17:54:18 <jcpham>	what youtube video
Feb 19 17:54:21 <jurov>	we first impersonate, then expersonate.
Feb 19 17:54:27 <truffles>	that u were going to do about sdice
Feb 19 17:54:38 <jcpham>	someone fed you some bad intel my friend
Feb 19 17:54:59 <jcpham>	irc is an organized disinformation campaign
Feb 19 17:55:15 <truffles>	so he changed his mind on that?
Feb 19 17:55:37 <jcpham>	i declined because i am unqualified
Feb 19 17:55:50 <jcpham>	plus i couldn't find enough naked chicks
Feb 19 17:56:14 <jurov>	no naked chicks on rota duty?
Feb 19 17:56:21 <jurov>	kinda hard then
Feb 19 17:56:23 <jcpham>	not yet...
Feb 19 17:56:45 <truffles>	i offered to critique ur screener video with some followup questions that u could address in the "real" video
Feb 19 17:56:53 <dub>	here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDNvBidOvKg
Feb 19 17:57:29 <jcpham>	i feel better about myself for watching that
Feb 19 17:57:39 *	truffles didnt click
Feb 19 17:58:45 <truffles>	ppl should say what random links are about
Feb 19 17:58:57 <truffles>	twice as bad as doing _afk
Feb 19 17:59:13 <jurov>	you are american, don't you? need warning labels on everything
Feb 19 17:59:29 <truffles>	haha
Feb 19 17:59:44 <kakobrekla>	truffles warning, its a youtube link.
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Feb 19 18:00:15 <truffles>	about what
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Feb 19 18:00:43 <kakobrekla>	up to you to interpret really
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Feb 19 18:01:21 <truffles>	anyways jcpham u reminded me why i was still here..
Feb 19 18:01:23 <jurov>	PARENTAL ADVISORY: IMPLICIT CONTENT
Feb 19 18:01:36 *	Namworld points people toward https://btct.co/security
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Feb 19 18:01:45 <Namworld>	Don't forget, S.MPOE/S.DICE/S.BBET passthroughs available on BTCT.co
Feb 19 18:01:53 <kakobrekla>	+b jcpham
Feb 19 18:02:17 <dub>	Namworld: got anything to make my penis bigger?
Feb 19 18:02:37 <jurov>	microscope?
Feb 19 18:02:41 <dub>	maybe a nigerian lottery windfall?
Feb 19 18:02:48 <Namworld>	No, but please browse my spam folder. You might find happiness there.
Feb 19 18:02:56 <truffles>	then erik said something about not wanting too much exposure but congrats some guy doing huffington post live interview..
Feb 19 18:03:07 <dub>	Namworld: I assumed this channel was your spam folder
Feb 19 18:03:22 <jurov>	no, that's #bitvps
Feb 19 18:03:34 <Namworld>	I think he's right
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Feb 19 18:03:58 <Namworld>	All channels seem like my spam folders
Feb 19 18:04:23 <jurov>	world is my spam folder..lalala...
Feb 19 18:06:21 <Namworld>	Wait, is dub a hater or something? I've been catching up on the read a bit.
Feb 19 18:06:30 <jcpham>	kakobrekla i understand you are looking for someone to blame....
Feb 19 18:06:50 <jcpham>	in these times of stress make it...santori time
Feb 19 18:06:57 <jurov>	seems that #bitcoin-assets got into cantankerous mood.. let's move on
Feb 19 18:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00656793 = 6.5679 BTC [-]
Feb 19 18:07:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 860 @ 0.00656792 = 5.6484 BTC [-]
Feb 19 18:07:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.0065539 = 6.2262 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 18:07:32 <jurov>	;;slap assbot
Feb 19 18:07:34 *	gribble slaps assbot with a jellied manikin
Feb 19 18:07:45 <jurov>	bot bdsm... now that's something
Feb 19 18:07:46 <assbot>	 that helps.
Feb 19 18:07:48 <jcpham>	mannequin
Feb 19 18:08:36 <truffles>	native speaker didnt program that eh
Feb 19 18:08:44 <jurov>	kakobrekla, how much is assbot? wanna have some porn
Feb 19 18:09:49 *	jurov is going to be first one to be kicked off -assets ... for indecency toward bots
Feb 19 18:09:51 <kakobrekla>	how much what
Feb 19 18:10:41 <jurov>	i'll tell it bluntly... does assbot offer escort service?
Feb 19 18:11:16 *	truffles is definately in a nerd channel..
Feb 19 18:11:16 <Namworld>	Well it's an ass with two legs. What was it made for do you think?
Feb 19 18:11:17 <assbot>	 money talks.
Feb 19 18:11:25 <Namworld>	See
Feb 19 18:11:34 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 19 18:11:34 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, and 54 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 19 18:12:16 <jurov>	so, sweet assbot, how much are you tonight?
Feb 19 18:12:30 <jurov>	*for
Feb 19 18:12:40 <assbot>	 depends who the client is.
Feb 19 18:13:23 <jurov>	i thought you knew me, i'm taking care and feeding you with delicious transactions
Feb 19 18:14:22 <assbot>	 ah, for you, number of users in chan of btc.
Feb 19 18:15:03 <kakobrekla>	EVERYONE LEAVE WEHAVEA FIRE RUN FOR YER NICKS
Feb 19 18:15:24 *	jurov tries to kidnap assbot
Feb 19 18:15:41 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 19 18:15:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.16737, Best ask: 29.21862, Bid-ask spread: 0.05125, Last trade: 29.16737, 24 hour volume: 100118.61733733, 24 hour low: 26.71812, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.13348
Feb 19 18:15:49 <Bowjob>	We are crashing!!!
Feb 19 18:15:54 <Bowjob>	Upwards :D
Feb 19 18:16:28 <jurov>	some gentlemen seem to be completely unperturbed by the drama..or the fire
Feb 19 18:16:42 <Namworld>	Yeah... beware... you see the sky under you and fall upward...
Feb 19 18:16:56 <Namworld>	but after a while you wake up. Then youo're back on the ground.
Feb 19 18:17:45 <Namworld>	Dreams vanish into smoke, like all that credit card leveraged BTC investment you did, not to count your retirement savings.
Feb 19 18:18:27 <Namworld>	Oh, I am quite satisfied with the situation. I was wondering how it felt to burn alive.
Feb 19 18:18:41 <Diablo-D3>	we havent crossed 30 yet?
Feb 19 18:18:49 <Namworld>	We're getting there
Feb 19 18:19:04 *	jurov falls under assbot, can't get from under her massive ass
Feb 19 18:19:17 *	jurov is suffocating
Feb 19 18:20:20 <assbot>	 I think I farted, a little.
Feb 19 18:20:23 <truffles>	jurov u like mecha's a lot
Feb 19 18:20:28 *	jurov flails his legs wildly..
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Feb 19 18:21:52 *	jurov 's movement is ceasing...
Feb 19 18:23:15 <Namworld>	... I'm sure jurov liked it.
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Feb 19 18:23:53 <jurov>	last sparks of jurov's life vanish like credit card leveraged BTC investment, while everybody is looking with amusement
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Feb 19 18:24:59 <Diablo-D3>	what did jurov do now?
Feb 19 18:25:30 <kakobrekla>	went on a date with assbot.
Feb 19 18:25:33 *	jurov died in accident with assbot
Feb 19 18:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	which side up ?
Feb 19 18:26:34 <truffles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPCWDfxRKhA: Cuntsmacker - A.S.F.R.
Feb 19 18:30:43 <dub>	I find this offensive
Feb 19 18:32:21 <iz>	yeah, i don't see how a cunt wouldn't be offended by that.. :b  (i didn't even click on that link)
Feb 19 18:32:38 <dub>	oww, my feels
Feb 19 18:32:53 <iz>	was too perfect and you set yourself up for it :b
Feb 19 18:33:06 <truffles>	haha
Feb 19 18:33:17 <dub>	I may have to buy a house to cheer me up
Feb 19 18:33:20 <error4733>	Tokyo  8:30am  Mt Gox opening !!
Feb 19 18:33:35 <error4733>	30$ in the next 2h
Feb 19 18:39:38 <Bugpowder>	I sure hope so
Feb 19 18:39:57 <Bugpowder>	I fully capitiualted into a long position
Feb 19 18:40:04 <Bugpowder>	one might say I recapitulated
Feb 19 18:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 19 18:40:17 <jurov>	decapitulated
Feb 19 18:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	so then it goes down now ?
Feb 19 18:40:48 <dub>	after 29.7
Feb 19 18:40:52 <dub>	it goes to 2
Feb 19 18:41:07 <kakobrekla>	nah , support is now at 3
Feb 19 18:41:07 <mircea_popescu>	.97
Feb 19 18:41:22 <mircea_popescu>	actually it goes to 2`97, everone's happy
Feb 19 18:41:26 <Bugpowder>	Well...
Feb 19 18:41:30 <Bugpowder>	actually
Feb 19 18:41:35 <Bugpowder>	2.97 would be sweet
Feb 19 18:41:37 <Bugpowder>	wait
Feb 19 18:41:40 <Bugpowder>	wut
Feb 19 18:41:58 <dub>	its all about the maff
Feb 19 18:41:58 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 19 18:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	maff is backing this drama!
Feb 19 18:42:09 <Bugpowder>	Just finished a lot of maff
Feb 19 18:42:13 <Bugpowder>	paper resubmitted
Feb 19 18:42:16 <Bugpowder>	time for a drink
Feb 19 18:42:24 <dub>	time for an auction
Feb 19 18:42:26 <dub>	wish me luck
Feb 19 18:42:28 <Namworld>	So... you went long Bugpowder?
Feb 19 18:42:31 <Bugpowder>	time for a RALLY
Feb 19 18:42:33 <Bugpowder>	yess
Feb 19 18:42:37 <Namworld>	=/
Feb 19 18:42:41 <Namworld>	I'm still short
Feb 19 18:42:46 <Bugpowder>	The 250s were selling for less than exercise
Feb 19 18:42:54 <Bugpowder>	at spot
Feb 19 18:43:03 <Bugpowder>	I closed 2/3 of the short
Feb 19 18:43:09 <Bugpowder>	reopened 1/3 of it
Feb 19 18:43:13 <Bugpowder>	the left it open
Feb 19 18:43:20 <Bugpowder>	and now went long
Feb 19 18:43:28 <Bugpowder>	wide straddle
Feb 19 18:43:31 <Namworld>	I'm just sad I didn't wait till after the 22th to get puts... seems we'll still be going up for a while.
Feb 19 18:43:35 <Bugpowder>	like
Feb 19 18:43:51 <Bugpowder>	If we crash to 26.... I am fucked
Feb 19 18:44:31 <Namworld>	Before the 22th?
Feb 19 18:44:34 <Bugpowder>	yes
Feb 19 18:44:39 <Namworld>	I think we won't get that
Feb 19 18:44:43 <Bugpowder>	about 29.30 I make money on the calls
Feb 19 18:44:46 <Bugpowder>	above 2930
Feb 19 18:44:47 <Namworld>	Maybe next month tho
Feb 19 18:45:10 <Bugpowder>	good luck
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Feb 19 18:52:55 <truffles>	mp situation annoys me cuz its like, u meet someone develop a rapport then u realize theyre with the incrowd, u try to keep the facade up but eventually they just ignore u
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Feb 19 18:55:14 <jurov>	really, white noise
Feb 19 18:55:49 <truffles>	assbot cares more
Feb 19 18:57:25 <jurov>	i doubt. you have seen yourself her suffocating people whith her ass and not caring a bit
Feb 19 18:57:41 <jurov>	anyway, what kind of care do you need?
Feb 19 18:58:35 <truffles>	none rly
Feb 19 19:00:17 <truffles>	some guy quit midgame though
Feb 19 19:01:11 <jurov>	left you unfinished?
Feb 19 19:01:20 <jurov>	yeah, that's unconvenient.
Feb 19 19:01:26 <truffles>	still another here
Feb 19 19:01:27 <truffles>	we got this
Feb 19 19:01:34 <truffles>	fml
Feb 19 19:01:36 <truffles>	no we dont
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Feb 19 19:04:42 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 19 19:04:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.38401, Best ask: 29.41569, Bid-ask spread: 0.03168, Last trade: 29.41569, 24 hour volume: 99720.56117272, 24 hour low: 26.80000, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.18580
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Feb 19 19:06:36 <Namworld>	I didn't understand anything of whatever that talk was about. Me thinks if the idea that there's no girls in Bitcoins was dropped, maybe all what was said would suddenly make more sense...
Feb 19 19:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066663 = 6.6663 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1981 @ 0.00066664 = 1.3206 BTC [+]
Feb 19 19:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00066665 = 10.6664 BTC [+]
Feb 19 19:06:56 <error4733>	http://memorydealers.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/10_casascius_bitcoin_silver_gold_logo.jpeg
Feb 19 19:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7369 @ 0.00066666 = 4.9126 BTC [+]
Feb 19 19:07:55 <error4733>	the value of each btc exceeds the silver value
Feb 19 19:09:39 <Namworld>	AT LAST
Feb 19 19:10:17 <Namworld>	Amazingrando decided to share contact details on skype... that guy is slow as a turtle.
Feb 19 19:10:36 <error4733>	Homo Digitalis, here we are !
Feb 19 19:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00065748 = 6.0817 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:12:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064831 = 6.4831 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7310 @ 0.0006483 = 4.7391 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:12:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 337 @ 0.00064829 = 0.2185 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:16:07 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Feb 19 19:16:08 <gribble>	Time since last block: 14 minutes and 12 seconds
Feb 19 19:16:13 <kakobrekla>	asic work goddamit
Feb 19 19:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00066666 = 6.1999 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 19:19:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01317 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:19:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.01316 = 0.1184 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 19:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00066666 = 3.7 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 19:21:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol asics are a mytj
Feb 19 19:23:32 <iz>	Hope, Certainty, and Reassurances..
Feb 19 19:23:53 <iz>	spreading the HCR all over
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Feb 19 19:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00626285 = 5.6366 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 19:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00065825 = 7.2078 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:31:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00064829 = 4.0518 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00614503 = 6.145 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:33:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00614002 = 6.14 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:33:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00614001 = 6.14 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:33:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00613004 = 6.13 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:33:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00612069 = 12.2414 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:33:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00605001 = 18.15 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:33:24 <swhitt>	whoa
Feb 19 19:33:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16000 @ 0.00605 = 96.8 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:33:29 <swhitt>	market order.
Feb 19 19:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00598092 = 5.6819 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:33:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 22159 @ 0.0057 = 126.3063 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:34:32 <swhitt>	wtf just happened?
Feb 19 19:35:03 <Bowjob>	its a buying opportunity
Feb 19 19:35:03 <Bowjob>	!
Feb 19 19:35:32 <swhitt>	missed it.
Feb 19 19:35:58 <swhitt>	they took it off the book
Feb 19 19:36:09 <swhitt>	and put it back at 0.0065.
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Feb 19 19:40:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.00067 = 0.0067 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 19:58:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7013 @ 0.00064829 = 4.5465 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Feb 19 19:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	there's a rule that tghere must be one of these every month it seems
Feb 19 19:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5942 @ 0.00063859 = 3.7945 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063701 = 0.637 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4958 @ 0.0006313 = 3.13 BTC [-]
Feb 19 19:59:07 <kakobrekla>	i dont think that one even counts
Feb 19 19:59:11 <kakobrekla>	150 btc or so
Feb 19 19:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	true
Feb 19 19:59:31 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't add it up
Feb 19 19:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	swhitt i don't see anything in the book at 65 ?
Feb 19 20:03:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00063608 = 7.0605 BTC [+]
Feb 19 20:05:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.31001 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 20:09:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0006313 = 4.8294 BTC [-]
Feb 19 20:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00062936 = 1.6678 BTC [-]
Feb 19 20:13:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00611 = 0.0367 BTC [-]
Feb 19 20:13:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 932 @ 0.0061 = 5.6852 BTC [-]
Feb 19 20:14:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1200 @ 0.00603 = 7.236 BTC [-]
Feb 19 20:28:04 <Namworld>	Who's selling S.DICE for cheap? =/
Feb 19 20:28:38 <kakobrekla>	the power of bids is amazing.
Feb 19 20:28:56 <kakobrekla>	also nature.
Feb 19 20:31:43 <Namworld>	eh
Feb 19 20:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4929 @ 0.00063608 = 3.1352 BTC [+]
Feb 19 20:31:51 <swhitt>	mircea_popescu: it got pulled
Feb 19 20:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10421 @ 0.0006399 = 6.6684 BTC [+]
Feb 19 20:32:00 <swhitt>	looked like someone was messing with a bot
Feb 19 20:32:28 <swhitt>	and accidentally put a market order in, then tried to sell at x btc above the higest bid
Feb 19 20:36:40 <kakobrekla>	shit, i didnt even know i had bids in.
Feb 19 20:36:44 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Feb 19 20:36:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.00068 = 0.0041 BTC [+]
Feb 19 20:37:43 <Namworld>	got yourself some S.DICE, Kako?
Feb 19 20:38:08 <kakobrekla>	at 44 and 42 accually
Feb 19 20:38:13 <kakobrekla>	at least most of it
Feb 19 20:38:28 <kakobrekla>	a small bid was filled now
Feb 19 20:38:43 <Namworld>	What? You mean from weeks ago?
Feb 19 20:38:46 <kakobrekla>	ya
Feb 19 20:38:55 <Namworld>	and you realize that now =/
Feb 19 20:39:06 <Namworld>	eheh
Feb 19 20:39:12 <Namworld>	Well I'm out for a bit
Feb 19 20:39:45 <kakobrekla>	no no, figured that out earlier
Feb 19 20:40:25 <kakobrekla>	i just forgot i had some bids in that were filled now
Feb 19 20:40:53 <swhitt>	yeah there was a 300 btc market order that gobbled up abunch of the bids
Feb 19 20:41:14 <kakobrekla>	accually most of that 44 prices shares have been sold
Feb 19 20:41:24 <kakobrekla>	got the top at 69
Feb 19 20:41:52 <kakobrekla>	was a preety good deal on the end.
Feb 19 20:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7489 @ 0.0006399 = 4.7922 BTC [+]
Feb 19 20:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20127 @ 0.0006399 = 12.8793 BTC [+]
Feb 19 20:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00064729 = 2.5244 BTC [+]
Feb 19 20:51:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00064897 = 14.2773 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 21:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4501 @ 0.00064242 = 2.8915 BTC [-]
Feb 19 21:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3303 @ 0.00064211 = 2.1209 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 21:14:03 <DeadWeas1l>	howdy
Feb 19 21:14:36 <DeadWeas1l>	who runs coinabul?
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Feb 19 21:21:52 <DeadWeas1l>	;;slap deadweasel
Feb 19 21:21:53 *	gribble slaps deadweasel with a superfine tenement of clay
Feb 19 21:22:05 <DeadWeas1l>	attaboy gribble, you still got it
Feb 19 21:22:43 <abracadabra>	;;slap gribble
Feb 19 21:22:44 *	gribble slaps gribble with a exactive chuck
Feb 19 21:22:50 <abracadabra>	\o/
Feb 19 21:23:28 <DeadWeas1l>	abra, should I sell my my btc to cover my costs of getting in?
Feb 19 21:23:35 <DeadWeas1l>	cos I'm techinically in the red til i do
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Feb 19 21:25:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.0006452 = 3.8389 BTC [+]
Feb 19 21:25:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4597 @ 0.00064211 = 2.9518 BTC [-]
Feb 19 21:25:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1725 @ 0.00063466 = 1.0948 BTC [-]
Feb 19 21:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00064897 = 9.475 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 21:31:37 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 19 21:31:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.30000, Best ask: 29.33000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 29.32000, 24 hour volume: 79269.41457172, 24 hour low: 27.15430, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.52859
Feb 19 21:35:57 <dub>	no house for dub
Feb 19 21:35:58 <Namworld>	Awesome... apparently unlimited data add-ons for 10$ will soon be available at my ISP.
Feb 19 21:36:27 <Namworld>	Right now I pay like 12$ for 60GB extra =/
Feb 19 21:36:34 <dub>	sounds like shitty data
Feb 19 21:36:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6636 @ 0.0006361 = 4.2212 BTC [-]
Feb 19 21:38:08 <Namworld>	You've been sounding grouchy the whole day dub.
Feb 19 21:38:47 <dub>	because I called you out for spamming?
Feb 19 21:39:16 <Namworld>	no, because all your comments sound angry =P
Feb 19 21:40:26 <dub>	odd, I usually go for the angry asshole feel but not sure whats different today
Feb 19 21:41:08 <dub>	I did just lose an auction
Feb 19 21:44:47 <Namworld>	[16:59] <dub> the pocket money mom gives him isnt goign to cover that
Feb 19 21:44:47 <Namworld>	[17:22] <dub> why should everyone else have to work to stop being annoyed by you
Feb 19 21:44:47 <Namworld>	[17:24] <dub> truffles: have you tried #bitcoin-otc? they encourage retardation
Feb 19 21:44:47 <Namworld>	[17:28] <dub> your face is funny
Feb 19 21:44:47 <Namworld>	[17:48] <dub> sadly you are not interesting to anyone
Feb 19 21:44:47 <Namworld>	[17:48] <dub> much like EskimoBob adding _afk to his nick, not a single fuck given
Feb 19 21:44:48 <Namworld>	[18:02] <dub> Namworld: got anything to make my penis bigger?
Feb 19 21:44:49 <Namworld>	[18:32] <dub> oww, my feels
Feb 19 21:44:49 <Namworld>	[21:35] <dub> no house for dub
Feb 19 21:44:49 <Namworld>	[21:36] <dub> sounds like shitty data
Feb 19 21:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14148 @ 0.00063751 = 9.0195 BTC [+]
Feb 19 21:45:19 <Namworld>	Yeah, not really angry asshole, looks more like somewhat pissed and sad today. Tired.
Feb 19 21:45:44 <truffles>	hmm
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Feb 19 21:46:21 <Namworld>	Like someone having a gloomy day and passing the stress with crude remarks.
Feb 19 21:46:26 <truffles>	id ask dub m ore questions about self but he seems not into that
Feb 19 21:47:12 <dub>	Namworld: lol
Feb 19 21:47:26 <truffles>	actually most of the ppl itc seem rly focused on earnings not debating..
Feb 19 21:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1552 @ 0.00063658 = 0.988 BTC [-]
Feb 19 21:48:32 <truffles>	besides u guys dont have an incentive to do so since its going to be permanently stored on the internet somewhere
Feb 19 21:49:58 <Namworld>	I prefer the angry asshole dub. Not the depressed emo asshole dub that has lightly aggressive remarks and sad remarks/brooding on his self inadequacies.
Feb 19 21:50:27 <truffles>	gotta work with what we've got
Feb 19 21:50:36 <Chaang-Noi>	did we get silver and btc crossing?
Feb 19 21:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00064897 = 4.3805 BTC [+]
Feb 19 21:51:43 <Namworld>	High:$29.65000
Feb 19 21:51:48 <Namworld>	for today on MtGox
Feb 19 21:52:11 <Namworld>	Isn't silver around 29.57 today?
Feb 19 21:52:21 <Namworld>	I guess we did.
Feb 19 21:52:43 <Chaang-Noi>	cool
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Feb 19 21:55:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9348 @ 0.00064485 = 6.0281 BTC [-]
Feb 19 21:57:18 <Chaang-Noi>	oh god the forum is so shit
Feb 19 21:57:38 <Chaang-Noi>	its not like i ahve not sent them $4000 personally to help fix it... fuck
Feb 19 21:59:09 <kakobrekla>	you should send me 4k as well
Feb 19 21:59:14 <kakobrekla>	at least i wont ban you here.
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Feb 19 22:05:00 <truffles>	so its your channel
Feb 19 22:05:33 <kakobrekla>	the joke is he got banned on the forums
Feb 19 22:05:55 <kakobrekla>	after donating 50btc or smth
Feb 19 22:06:49 <truffles>	well 2 ppl on bitcointalk actually know what its all about
Feb 19 22:06:53 <truffles>	id donate too
Feb 19 22:06:58 <truffles>	to those 2
Feb 19 22:12:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 675 @ 0.00063466 = 0.4284 BTC [-]
Feb 19 22:12:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00063228 = 6.4809 BTC [-]
Feb 19 22:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6647 @ 0.00063187 = 4.2 BTC [-]
Feb 19 22:15:45 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobrekla i paid well over 100 btc in ads as well
Feb 19 22:19:16 <Namworld>	I once again beat market price. 12k S.DICE for 0.00645 BTC each on BTCT.co now.
Feb 19 22:21:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0061 = 3.05 BTC [+]
Feb 19 22:22:35 <pigeons>	;;calc 0.00140000 * .95
Feb 19 22:22:36 <gribble>	0.00133
Feb 19 22:22:41 <pigeons>	oops
Feb 19 22:22:54 <pigeons>	;;calc 0.00645 * .95
Feb 19 22:22:54 <gribble>	0.0061275
Feb 19 22:23:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 19 22:23:26 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222101 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1674 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 11 hours, 6 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4118081.63001 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.79289
Feb 19 22:24:11 <Namworld>	Eh, what are you trying to calculate?
Feb 19 22:24:26 <ThickAsThieves>	whether your sdice is truly market
Feb 19 22:25:44 <Namworld>	Eh, they only beat MPEx ask and GSDPT ask
Feb 19 22:26:30 <Namworld>	If they get 5% less each month, they should cost 5% less than market price. So he should do current MPEx ask * 0.95 to see if it's a good ask
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Feb 19 22:26:54 <Namworld>	It comes down to there's still a fee, but less than 5%
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Feb 19 22:27:36 <Namworld>	;;calc 5-(0.00645/0.00666665)
Feb 19 22:27:36 <gribble>	4.03249758124
Feb 19 22:27:47 <ThickAsThieves>	the action does seem to be at about .0061 or so this week
Feb 19 22:27:59 <Namworld>	4% under MPEx ask
Feb 19 22:27:59 <ThickAsThieves>	on the exchanges also
Feb 19 22:28:20 <ThickAsThieves>	hard to sell much at .0065+
Feb 19 22:28:45 <Chaang-Noi>	Next Difficulty Estimate: 4118081.63001
Feb 19 22:28:48 <Chaang-Noi>	daaaaaamn
Feb 19 22:29:01 <ThickAsThieves>	what do you think the diff afte rthat will reach?
Feb 19 22:29:08 <Namworld>	wait, I did that wrong...
Feb 19 22:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4152 @ 0.00064101 = 2.6615 BTC [+]
Feb 19 22:29:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10348 @ 0.00064156 = 6.6389 BTC [+]
Feb 19 22:29:50 <Namworld>	;;calc 0.05-(1-(0.00645/0.00666665))
Feb 19 22:29:50 <gribble>	0.017502418756
Feb 19 22:30:02 <Namworld>	1.7% fee for my ask vs MPEx ask
Feb 19 22:31:10 <Namworld>	You get more from my ask but 5% fee on dividends. In the end, 1.7% when comparing the two ask.
Feb 19 22:31:42 <ThickAsThieves>	99% payout on LTC Global ;)
Feb 19 22:31:54 <Namworld>	If you have a MPEx account, that's always cheaper tho.
Feb 19 22:32:14 <Namworld>	Them damn LTC-GLOBALers...
Feb 19 22:33:23 <Namworld>	;;calc 0.00707025*0.0025
Feb 19 22:33:23 <gribble>	1.7675625e-05
Feb 19 22:33:29 <Namworld>	erhm
Feb 19 22:33:35 <Bowjob>	can everyone tone down the mining until i get my asic pl0x
Feb 19 22:33:43 <Namworld>	;;calc 2.8281 * 0.0025
Feb 19 22:33:43 <gribble>	0.00707025
Feb 19 22:33:46 <ThickAsThieves>	problem being that your share value on LTCG is currently guaranteed to go down
Feb 19 22:33:53 <Namworld>	But their shares cost 0.007 each
Feb 19 22:34:03 <ThickAsThieves>	so you have to plan to hold long term
Feb 19 22:34:08 <ThickAsThieves>	for divs
Feb 19 22:34:18 <deadweasel>	big walls moved to 30.5
Feb 19 22:34:30 <Bugpowder_>	o?
Feb 19 22:34:33 <Namworld>	1-(0.007/0.00666665)
Feb 19 22:34:40 <Namworld>	;;calc 1-(0.007/0.00666665)
Feb 19 22:34:40 <gribble>	-0.0500026250066
Feb 19 22:34:47 <deadweasel>	aaaaand they moved.
Feb 19 22:34:51 <Bugpowder_>	false
Feb 19 22:34:52 <Namworld>	see, -5% because of extra ask
Feb 19 22:34:56 <deadweasel>	jesus, i can't watch this bitcoinity graph anymore
Feb 19 22:35:04 <Namworld>	Total 6% fee for LTC-GLOBAL
Feb 19 22:35:09 <ThickAsThieves>	Nam, if you catch the LTC/BTC rate and the Asks out of sync you can get SDICE at market or less sometimes
Feb 19 22:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0061 = 3.05 BTC [+]
Feb 19 22:35:43 <Namworld>	Always a good thing to abuse fast market movements on Gox
Feb 19 22:35:48 <ThickAsThieves>	but still worth less off the lot...
Feb 19 22:35:51 <Namworld>	and trade on that on other markets
Feb 19 22:36:03 <Namworld>	before they catch up
Feb 19 22:36:29 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl shipped yet?
Feb 19 22:36:35 <Namworld>	Any small trader can do that without much difficulties. Tedious task however.
Feb 19 22:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7308 @ 0.00063187 = 4.6177 BTC [-]
Feb 19 22:37:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062906 = 2.5162 BTC [-]
Feb 19 22:37:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2780 @ 0.00062864 = 1.7476 BTC [-]
Feb 19 22:39:41 <Bowjob>	No BFL shipped yet
Feb 19 22:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0061 = 6.1 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 22:41:27 <deadweasel>	holy crap, a king snake can devour another snake twice it's length.
Feb 19 22:41:34 <deadweasel>	it folds it in half in it's stomach
Feb 19 22:41:51 <truffles>	sounds painful
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Feb 19 22:45:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3221 @ 0.00062864 = 2.0248 BTC [-]
Feb 19 22:46:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 206 @ 0.00062864 = 0.1295 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 22:54:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4435 @ 0.00062793 = 2.7849 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 22:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20859 @ 0.00062793 = 13.098 BTC [-]
Feb 19 23:02:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00063023 = 4.3171 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 23:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00063023 = 2.2373 BTC [+]
Feb 19 23:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00063942 = 4.9235 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 23:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8591 @ 0.00062814 = 5.3964 BTC [-]
Feb 19 23:10:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6077 @ 0.0006264 = 3.8066 BTC [-]
Feb 19 23:13:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00063942 = 0.8952 BTC [+]
Feb 19 23:13:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00063942 = 1.8223 BTC [+]
Feb 19 23:19:01 <Bowjob>	;ticker
Feb 19 23:19:06 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 19 23:19:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.29447, Best ask: 29.35999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06552, Last trade: 29.35999, 24 hour volume: 64615.35336494, 24 hour low: 27.15430, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.71271
Feb 19 23:23:51 <swhitt>	tank!
Feb 19 23:24:04 <kakobrekla>	bomb!
Feb 19 23:31:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14523 @ 0.0006264 = 9.0972 BTC [-]
Feb 19 23:31:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12877 @ 0.00062422 = 8.0381 BTC [-]
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Feb 19 23:39:37 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 19 23:39:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.39999, Best ask: 29.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04001, Last trade: 29.35900, 24 hour volume: 62850.69195665, 24 hour low: 27.40000, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.75154
Feb 19 23:39:45 <Bowjob>	30! 30!
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Feb 19 23:48:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00063942 = 7.1295 BTC [+]
Feb 19 23:48:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7852 @ 0.00064156 = 5.0375 BTC [+]
Feb 19 23:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6727 @ 0.00064169 = 4.3166 BTC [+]
Feb 19 23:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 19 23:49:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.39999, Best ask: 29.40393, Bid-ask spread: 0.00394, Last trade: 29.40393, 24 hour volume: 62910.62323197, 24 hour low: 27.50000, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.75827
Feb 19 23:50:33 <Bowjob>	Looks like we got ourselves a satoshi wale
Feb 19 23:50:35 <Bowjob>	whale
Feb 19 23:50:42 <maximian>	oh?
Feb 19 23:50:45 <Bowjob>	everyone man the harpoons!
Feb 19 23:50:57 <Bowjob>	http://satoshidice.com/
Feb 19 23:51:03 <Bowjob>	take a look at the recent loses
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Feb 19 23:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	whales are good.
Feb 19 23:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00064169 = 9.112 BTC [+]
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Feb 19 23:57:33 <Bowjob>	but they are endangered
Feb 19 23:57:51 <Bowjob>	we should hunt more by letting them win from time to time
Feb 19 23:58:11 <Bowjob>	whale greed is infinite, if they win a bit, they might tell their whale friends
Feb 19 23:58:22 <Bowjob>	and their whale families
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Feb 20 00:02:25 <maximian>	I think the whale showed up around this time last month too… I wonder if it's the same guy.
Feb 20 00:02:59 <truffles>	im guessing its not weight being discussed
Feb 20 00:03:26 <truffles>	in poker the term is "fish" soooo
Feb 20 00:03:30 <truffles>	wonder if samemeaning
Feb 20 00:04:36 <Bowjob>	"I'm not going to tell you bad news. I just don't have any solid information at the moment." -BFL Josh
Feb 20 00:04:51 <Bowjob>	Just now.. I gave a cursory look at BFL forums
Feb 20 00:05:02 <Bowjob>	GG fuckers, I'll bet on the "No" side
Feb 20 00:05:10 <Bowjob>	at bitbet
Feb 20 00:07:29 <truffles>	maybe theyre having trouble with factory and manufaturer
Feb 20 00:10:02 <Bowjob>	" I am doing everything I can to beat that bet. I don't have any money in it, but I would like to see Mireu the douchebag lose his ass on that one."
Feb 20 00:10:21 <Bowjob>	So if its not him.. then he's not sure he'll ship
Feb 20 00:10:23 <Bowjob>	mhm
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Feb 20 00:11:02 <truffles>	small parts are difficult to acquire
Feb 20 00:15:04 <Namworld>	guy comes at the end of each month =/
Feb 20 00:15:33 <truffles>	similar problem for this tablet i wanted..
Feb 20 00:16:00 <truffles>	monthly updates to let us know things still going along
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Feb 20 00:18:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00623458 = 3.1173 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00623459 = 8.105 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:18:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 98 @ 0.00645 = 0.6321 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:18:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11102 @ 0.0066 = 73.2732 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:19:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.705 = 3.525 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:19:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.70000001 = 28 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:19:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.7 = 14 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:19:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.69200069 = 10.38 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:19:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.692 = 4.844 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:19:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.69 = 6.9 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:19:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.69 = 2.07 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0066 = 66 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:21:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 100 @ 0.66 = 66 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:21:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.68 = 6.8 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:21:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.67 = 2.68 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:21:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.666 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:21:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.661 = 9.915 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:23:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0066 = 66 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 00:23:59 <topace_>	i dont think assbot is announcing in the same order the trades are being pushed to it
Feb 20 00:24:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.661 = 23.135 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:24:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 65 @ 0.66 = 42.9 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:25:16 <Bowjob>	Aight, I want out out Havelock now.
Feb 20 00:25:44 <topace_>	lol why's that ?
Feb 20 00:26:12 <Bowjob>	you pretty much killed all arbing opportunities if you play the role of both issuer and a regular investor
Feb 20 00:26:44 <maximian>	why can't topace arb his own issue?
Feb 20 00:26:57 <topace_>	thhere's no way to automatically arb right now anyways
Feb 20 00:26:59 <Bowjob>	I've seen it coming tbh, I did an exit at 0.75 before you were here
Feb 20 00:27:05 <topace_>	because pushing to OR from havelock is a manual process
Feb 20 00:27:15 <Bowjob>	Yeah, takes like 5 seconds though
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Feb 20 00:27:25 <topace_>	only if im around to do it.
Feb 20 00:27:37 <Bowjob>	But it says on your site, you could take mpex shares pushed to havelock
Feb 20 00:27:58 <topace_>	the only way to build the size of  the  sdice passthru on havelock is for me to buy them on mpex and sell them on havelock
Feb 20 00:27:59 <Bowjob>	whats stopping you from taking the shares from someone, and beating them at arbing
Feb 20 00:28:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8941 @ 0.00062814 = 5.6162 BTC [-]
Feb 20 00:29:19 <topace_>	Bowjob: i'm trying to figure out an automatic way to allow PUSH FROM mpex to havelock, or PUSH FROM havelock to mpex.. but its not as simple as it sounds
Feb 20 00:29:41 <topace_>	i'd love nothing more than to open up arb opportunities  for others
Feb 20 00:30:58 <truffles>	whats arbing?
Feb 20 00:31:39 <Namworld>	arbitraging
Feb 20 00:31:47 <Namworld>	trading on the price difference on two markets
Feb 20 00:32:20 <truffles>	ok
Feb 20 00:32:27 <topace_>	Bowjob: i launched account/portolio ready-only API as a starting point
Feb 20 00:32:32 <topace_>	Bowjob: next comes the trading API
Feb 20 00:32:42 <topace_>	Bowjob: then comes the push/pull mpex API
Feb 20 00:32:48 <topace_>	baby steps
Feb 20 00:33:10 <topace_>	i mean, what other exchange operator can go away to cuba for 9 days and not worry at all about their site :)
Feb 20 00:33:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7057 @ 0.0066 = 46.5762 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:33:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00666662 = 3.3333 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:33:23 <topace_>	and still have it operate without issue while out of internet access
Feb 20 00:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00666663 = 6.6666 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00666666 = 3.3333 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:34:47 <topace_>	anyways. bedtime
Feb 20 00:35:09 <topace_>	Bowjob: help work with me and we'll have you arbing between havelock and other exchanges in no time, as lon as the other exchagnes can support it :)
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Feb 20 00:35:37 <Bowjob>	sure
Feb 20 00:36:10 <topace_>	night!
Feb 20 00:37:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 943 @ 0.00673998 = 6.3558 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 00:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3123 @ 0.00064169 = 2.004 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:43:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00064243 = 15.8038 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:43:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 777 @ 0.00064407 = 0.5004 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 00:47:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00064407 = 8.7594 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:51:41 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 20 00:51:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.35001, Best ask: 29.42035, Bid-ask spread: 0.07034, Last trade: 29.22113, 24 hour volume: 61658.52834654, 24 hour low: 27.50000, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.81324
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Feb 20 00:54:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25823 @ 0.00064407 = 16.6318 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00064419 = 8.1812 BTC [+]
Feb 20 00:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4031 @ 0.00064524 = 2.601 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:03:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19508 @ 0.00064524 = 12.5873 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:03:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00062814 = 4.2714 BTC [-]
Feb 20 01:03:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063498 = 10.1597 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 01:10:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
Feb 20 01:10:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.305 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 01:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 57 @ 0.00673998 = 0.3842 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:18:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6943 @ 0.00673999 = 46.7958 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5514 @ 0.00063498 = 3.5013 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10957 @ 0.00064323 = 7.0479 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4143 @ 0.00064323 = 2.6649 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 01:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4082 @ 0.00064524 = 2.6339 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13218 @ 0.00064805 = 8.5659 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2782 @ 0.00064805 = 1.8029 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:48:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13568 @ 0.00064806 = 8.7929 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1482 @ 0.00064806 = 0.9604 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15518 @ 0.00064897 = 10.0707 BTC [+]
Feb 20 01:54:49 <Bowjob>	;;rally
Feb 20 01:54:50 <gribble>	Error: "rally" is not a valid command.
Feb 20 01:54:53 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 20 01:54:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.26998, Best ask: 29.28000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01002, Last trade: 29.26996, 24 hour volume: 62082.47209777, 24 hour low: 27.50000, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.84057
Feb 20 01:57:49 <Bowjob>	https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3677674/bitcoin-mkt-cap123.jpg
Feb 20 01:57:57 <Bowjob>	Aren't we moving too fast, too soon?
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Feb 20 02:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00064397 = 9.6274 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 02:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5064 @ 0.00064475 = 3.265 BTC [+]
Feb 20 02:20:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00064861 = 7.5563 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 02:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 982 @ 0.00064897 = 0.6373 BTC [+]
Feb 20 02:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11578 @ 0.00065171 = 7.5455 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 02:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4046 @ 0.00064861 = 2.6243 BTC [-]
Feb 20 02:52:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00064397 = 0.6762 BTC [-]
Feb 20 02:52:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6457 @ 0.00064396 = 4.158 BTC [-]
Feb 20 02:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12897 @ 0.00064175 = 8.2766 BTC [-]
Feb 20 03:02:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4353 @ 0.00064175 = 2.7935 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 03:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00063413 = 4.8828 BTC [-]
Feb 20 03:26:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13774 @ 0.00062918 = 8.6663 BTC [-]
Feb 20 03:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00063599 = 24.8036 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 03:43:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1126 @ 0.00062918 = 0.7085 BTC [-]
Feb 20 03:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49859 @ 0.00062814 = 31.3184 BTC [-]
Feb 20 03:43:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13035 @ 0.00062768 = 8.1818 BTC [-]
Feb 20 03:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00063306 = 5.7608 BTC [+]
Feb 20 03:48:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10465 @ 0.00063306 = 6.625 BTC [+]
Feb 20 03:48:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5790 @ 0.00063599 = 3.6824 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 03:51:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00064087 = 4.0054 BTC [+]
Feb 20 03:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15785 @ 0.00064741 = 10.2194 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 03:55:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 265 @ 0.00064741 = 0.1716 BTC [+]
Feb 20 03:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00064871 = 4.9626 BTC [+]
Feb 20 03:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6301 @ 0.00065111 = 4.1026 BTC [+]
Feb 20 03:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14072 @ 0.0006511 = 9.1623 BTC [-]
Feb 20 04:04:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1928 @ 0.0006511 = 1.2553 BTC [-]
Feb 20 04:04:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7772 @ 0.00065111 = 5.0604 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:14:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3330 @ 0.00065111 = 2.1682 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006517 = 2.816 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:14:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3599 @ 0.00065171 = 2.3455 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 04:21:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065138 = 2.8146 BTC [-]
Feb 20 04:21:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 823 @ 0.00065171 = 0.5364 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:21:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00065172 = 7.7555 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:21:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16605 @ 0.0006527 = 10.8381 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:21:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00065292 = 2.7096 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:21:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00065321 = 4.5071 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6693 @ 0.00065368 = 4.3751 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:24:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01317 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:24:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01316 BTC [-]
Feb 20 04:24:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01314 = 0.1314 BTC [-]
Feb 20 04:24:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.01312 = 0.105 BTC [-]
Feb 20 04:24:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 12 @ 0.01311 = 0.1573 BTC [-]
Feb 20 04:24:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.01003 = 1.003 BTC [-]
Feb 20 04:24:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.01002 = 0.02 BTC [-]
Feb 20 04:24:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0073 = 0.0365 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 04:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4668 @ 0.00065368 = 3.0514 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:28:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00065562 = 2.5241 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:28:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8282 @ 0.00065569 = 5.4304 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 04:35:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.00068 = 0.136 BTC [+]
Feb 20 04:39:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 20 04:39:05 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222154 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1621 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 2 hours, 33 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4230144.20092 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.86225
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Feb 20 05:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00064269 = 5.6557 BTC [-]
Feb 20 05:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00064377 = 0.5794 BTC [+]
Feb 20 05:14:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23932 @ 0.00064377 = 15.4067 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 05:19:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 845 @ 0.00063713 = 0.5384 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 05:20:37 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 20 05:20:38 <gribble>	1 BTC = 29.55999 U.S. dollars = 22.0383136 Euros
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Feb 20 05:30:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00063618 = 4.5805 BTC [-]
Feb 20 05:30:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.00639 = 0.9585 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 05:41:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 505 @ 0.00063618 = 0.3213 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 05:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1498 @ 0.00064377 = 0.9644 BTC [+]
Feb 20 05:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.0006452 = 3.2125 BTC [+]
Feb 20 05:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11223 @ 0.00065192 = 7.3165 BTC [+]
Feb 20 06:00:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063669 = 2.7511 BTC [-]
Feb 20 06:00:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10079 @ 0.0006364 = 6.4143 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 06:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	goood morning!
Feb 20 06:13:05 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
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Feb 20 06:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	whats new ?
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Feb 20 06:14:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.00065 = 0.0026 BTC [-]
Feb 20 06:15:01 <lyspooner>	good morning to you
Feb 20 06:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000000 @ 0.00639 = 6390 BTC [-]
Feb 20 06:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	o hi there mr rainmaker.
Feb 20 06:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.dice
Feb 20 06:15:51 <assbot>	Have you got any tobacco?
Feb 20 06:15:57 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 20 06:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0057 / 0.00638746 / 0.00675813 (1133957 shares, 7,243.11 BTC), 7D: 0.0057 / 0.00638202 / 0.0069 (1351237 shares, 8,623.63 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.0059235 / 0.0075 (7743188 shares, 45,866.85 BTC)
Feb 20 06:17:53 <lyspooner>	that gwern.net article about silk road reads very much like a popescu piece
Feb 20 06:18:54 <Chaang-Noi>	<assbot> Have you got any tobacco?   oh lol
Feb 20 06:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner you think everything reads like me. mpoe-pr, gwern.net...
Feb 20 06:19:31 <mircea_popescu>	i just hope and pray you won't be saying obama sounds like me.
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Feb 20 06:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063653 = 2.7504 BTC [+]
Feb 20 06:31:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5921 @ 0.0006364 = 3.7681 BTC [-]
Feb 20 06:31:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15758 @ 0.00063639 = 10.0282 BTC [-]
Feb 20 06:39:50 <pizzaman1337>	someone bought 1 million shares of S.DICE? nice
Feb 20 06:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	!tobacco have you.got
Feb 20 06:40:54 <mircea_popescu>	pff assbot is not sufficiently ai.
Feb 20 06:42:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4337 @ 0.00063639 = 2.76 BTC [-]
Feb 20 06:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063553 = 2.7461 BTC [-]
Feb 20 06:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7227 @ 0.00063552 = 4.5929 BTC [-]
Feb 20 06:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064019 = 2.7663 BTC [+]
Feb 20 06:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9679 @ 0.00064033 = 6.1978 BTC [+]
Feb 20 06:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064032 = 2.7668 BTC [-]
Feb 20 06:54:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00064033 = 3.4443 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 07:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00063592 = 5.5961 BTC [-]
Feb 20 07:04:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064012 = 2.766 BTC [+]
Feb 20 07:04:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 942 @ 0.00064033 = 0.6032 BTC [+]
Feb 20 07:04:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15637 @ 0.00064034 = 10.013 BTC [+]
Feb 20 07:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064034 = 1.921 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 07:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 663 @ 0.00064034 = 0.4245 BTC [+]
Feb 20 07:12:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27187 @ 0.00064579 = 17.5571 BTC [+]
Feb 20 07:14:00 <ThickAsThieves>	here's some news
Feb 20 07:14:01 <ThickAsThieves>	https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130220.html
Feb 20 07:16:06 <ThickAsThieves>	this rally isn't even full throttle yet
Feb 20 07:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7955 @ 0.00064454 = 5.1273 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 07:32:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15903 @ 0.00064454 = 10.2501 BTC [-]
Feb 20 07:32:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7262 @ 0.00065048 = 4.7238 BTC [+]
Feb 20 07:34:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00065048 = 10.5703 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 07:52:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4017 @ 0.00065048 = 2.613 BTC [+]
Feb 20 07:53:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2533 @ 0.00065128 = 1.6497 BTC [+]
Feb 20 07:54:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19367 @ 0.00064953 = 12.5794 BTC [-]
Feb 20 07:54:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2303 @ 0.00064953 = 1.4959 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 07:57:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00064173 = 3.9466 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 07:59:56 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone use this? https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Feb 20 08:03:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063957 = 2.7636 BTC [-]
Feb 20 08:03:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5724 @ 0.00063956 = 3.6608 BTC [-]
Feb 20 08:05:14 <pigeons>	Chaang-Noi: yeah doublec is using it for support communication for his exchanges
Feb 20 08:06:09 <pigeons>	oh and his pool too i see by his last message
Feb 20 08:06:50 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 20 08:06:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.06000, Best ask: 29.32865, Bid-ask spread: 0.26865, Last trade: 29.32865, 24 hour volume: 57042.40054926, 24 hour low: 28.10100, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.10914
Feb 20 08:08:30 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons is it pretty cool?
Feb 20 08:08:35 <Chaang-Noi>	easy to use?
Feb 20 08:10:11 <pigeons>	yes its easy to use just run the python script and you're good
Feb 20 08:12:44 <Chaang-Noi>	cool
Feb 20 08:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063973 = 2.7643 BTC [+]
Feb 20 08:14:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6679 @ 0.00063956 = 4.2716 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 08:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5797 @ 0.00063956 = 3.7075 BTC [-]
Feb 20 08:21:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063637 = 2.7498 BTC [-]
Feb 20 08:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7373 @ 0.00063636 = 4.6919 BTC [-]
Feb 20 08:22:21 <Bugpowdery>	They unwrapped the machine!
Feb 20 08:22:21 <Bugpowdery>	http://198.245.60.111/Pix/InhouseProduction1.jpg
Feb 20 08:23:10 <Bugpowdery>	;;asks 30
Feb 20 08:23:12 <gribble>	There are currently 13585.687 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 406185.795316 USD in total.
Feb 20 08:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063933 = 2.7625 BTC [+]
Feb 20 08:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00063966 = 2.929 BTC [+]
Feb 20 08:27:49 <ThickAsThieves>	so full tour here http://198.245.60.111/Pix/
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Feb 20 08:34:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00063966 = 7.0363 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 08:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8321 @ 0.00063966 = 5.3226 BTC [+]
Feb 20 08:57:13 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone know the website run by death for taxes that buys btc?
Feb 20 08:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12097 @ 0.00064173 = 7.763 BTC [+]
Feb 20 08:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.0006515 = 13.0952 BTC [+]
Feb 20 08:57:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10509 @ 0.00065192 = 6.851 BTC [+]
Feb 20 08:57:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00065491 = 4.7808 BTC [+]
Feb 20 08:57:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15618 @ 0.00065569 = 10.2406 BTC [+]
Feb 20 08:57:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9855 @ 0.00065625 = 6.4673 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 09:05:33 <pigeons>	tangible cryptography someting
Feb 20 09:05:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006365 = 2.7503 BTC [-]
Feb 20 09:05:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063637 = 6.3637 BTC [-]
Feb 20 09:05:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3729 @ 0.00063636 = 2.373 BTC [-]
Feb 20 09:08:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 20 09:08:31 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222183 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1592 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4206644.38886 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.2186
Feb 20 09:14:52 <thestringpuller>	don't use fastcash...
Feb 20 09:16:14 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i summon theee
Feb 20 09:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111 @ 0.00063636 = 0.0706 BTC [-]
Feb 20 09:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063579 = 2.7472 BTC [-]
Feb 20 09:16:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 908 @ 0.00063578 = 0.5773 BTC [-]
Feb 20 09:17:33 <pigeons>	i think to do that you look in a mirror and say biggiesmalls 3 times
Feb 20 09:18:00 <thestringpuller>	you watch too much south park
Feb 20 09:18:21 <pigeons>	not enough
Feb 20 09:18:24 <jurov>	mirror doesn't work. ne has to pray to picture of mpoe-pr
Feb 20 09:18:42 <thestringpuller>	that's a good joke about biggie smalls
Feb 20 09:18:49 <thestringpuller>	he's trying to go to satan's birthday
Feb 20 09:18:58 <thestringpuller>	but the kids keep summoning him on halloween or something...
Feb 20 09:19:07 <pigeons>	yeah :)
Feb 20 09:19:17 <thestringpuller>	and he's like "fucking shit. I'm trying to go to a fucking party!"
Feb 20 09:19:18 <pigeons>	same thing happens to mircea_popescu
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Feb 20 09:19:49 <thestringpuller>	that would be a good premise for a webcomic
Feb 20 09:20:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00063578 = 4.9909 BTC [-]
Feb 20 09:20:25 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is fucking some broad, then some bloke summons him, and he's like "fucking shit dude, srsly?"
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Feb 20 09:21:00 <pigeons>	"can you process my 1btc withdrawal"
Feb 20 09:22:34 <thestringpuller>	yup! and I will name the article: Summoning Biggie Smalls or the case for why MPEX needs automated processing
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Feb 20 09:29:16 <Chaang-Noi>	what is wrong with fastcash4bitcoins?
Feb 20 09:30:34 <topace>	[06:15:18] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000000 @ 0.00639 = 6390 BTC [-]
Feb 20 09:30:37 <topace>	wow that kinda came out of the blue?
Feb 20 09:33:01 <jurov>	btw, if you didn't placed it yes, i can facilitate fast withdrawals.
Feb 20 09:33:12 <jurov>	for 0.1BTC fee
Feb 20 09:33:28 <jurov>	*if you didn't placed it yet
Feb 20 09:34:37 <pigeons>	yeah that's a nice block
Feb 20 09:42:49 <Guest59576>	dafuck is BFL putting this
Feb 20 09:42:50 <Guest59576>	http://www.amazon.com/FSP-CrossFire-Upgrade-BOOSTER-X5/dp/B002IZE5RE
Feb 20 09:42:53 <Guest59576>	in thir units
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Feb 20 09:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3992 @ 0.00063578 = 2.538 BTC [-]
Feb 20 09:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8773 @ 0.00063552 = 5.5754 BTC [-]
Feb 20 09:50:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7285 @ 0.0006355 = 4.6296 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 09:50:42 <thestringpuller>	so what happens if mircea_popescu dies, like has a heart attack
Feb 20 09:50:47 <thestringpuller>	will mpoe-pr get us our money?
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Feb 20 09:52:03 <pigeons>	he says he's not gonna die for a few years
Feb 20 09:52:15 <pigeons>	some people believe him
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Feb 20 09:53:26 <pigeons>	well he says his "CTO" i think, who does happen to be female, has the private keys or something and instructions to bury his ashes at archie bunker's place
Feb 20 09:54:25 <Bugpowder>	Time for another rally.
Feb 20 09:54:29 <Bugpowder>	lets do it
Feb 20 09:55:15 <pigeons>	you're nuts
Feb 20 09:56:28 <Bugpowder>	let's just get it over with
Feb 20 09:56:35 <Bugpowder>	break thru 32
Feb 20 09:57:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064279 = 2.7775 BTC [+]
Feb 20 09:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15645 @ 0.00064306 = 10.0607 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 10:00:55 <swhitt>	;;ticker
Feb 20 10:00:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.53001, Best ask: 29.53899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00898, Last trade: 29.53899, 24 hour volume: 53319.85925499, 24 hour low: 28.50600, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.20804
Feb 20 10:01:02 <swhitt>	break through 30 first :)
Feb 20 10:01:04 <swhitt>	;;asks 30
Feb 20 10:01:06 <gribble>	There are currently 13925.478 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 416323.795796 USD in total.
Feb 20 10:05:51 <Bicknellski_>	This ride doesnt like ending anytime soon does it?
Feb 20 10:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5 @ 0.00064306 = 0.0032 BTC [+]
Feb 20 10:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065062 = 2.8113 BTC [+]
Feb 20 10:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18574 @ 0.00065063 = 12.0848 BTC [+]
Feb 20 10:14:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.00733 = 0.0147 BTC [+]
Feb 20 10:14:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 98 @ 0.00732 = 0.7174 BTC [-]
Feb 20 10:17:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064151 = 2.772 BTC [-]
Feb 20 10:17:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14459 @ 0.00064122 = 9.2714 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 10:23:02 <usagi>	hihi
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Feb 20 10:23:21 <Bicknellski_>	Hola
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Feb 20 10:23:35 <usagi>	dt sent you a mail
Feb 20 10:24:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 30
Feb 20 10:24:06 <gribble>	There are currently 13565.923 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 405688.531668 USD in total.
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Feb 20 10:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00064285 = 4.1142 BTC [+]
Feb 20 10:33:25 <kakobrekla>	silver is now dollar under btc
Feb 20 10:33:34 <kakobrekla>	hows that going usagi
Feb 20 10:33:59 <truffles>	are u nervous yet?
Feb 20 10:34:22 <pigeons>	silver is still worth more by his valuation
Feb 20 10:34:26 <pigeons>	dont go by price
Feb 20 10:35:16 <truffles>	(about the feds)
Feb 20 10:38:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.0908 BTC [-]
Feb 20 10:38:24 <pigeons>	truffles is a fed
Feb 20 10:38:57 <Bicknellski_>	narc?
Feb 20 10:42:00 <truffles>	poorest narc ever..
Feb 20 10:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2627 @ 0.00065063 = 1.7092 BTC [+]
Feb 20 10:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3173 @ 0.00065069 = 2.0646 BTC [+]
Feb 20 10:44:27 <Bicknellski_>	Arent they poor?
Feb 20 10:44:45 <deadweasel>	they are
Feb 20 10:44:52 <deadweasel>	anyone used coinabul?
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Feb 20 10:46:53 <truffles>	well its the last job id ever take..
Feb 20 10:47:11 <topace>	deadweasel: yea i have
Feb 20 10:47:15 <topace>	they are VERY slow
Feb 20 10:47:29 <topace>	usually takes 2-3 weeks before they even ship
Feb 20 10:48:05 <truffles>	pigeons u seem very suspicious to me
Feb 20 10:48:06 <topace>	adn we've had a package sitting in customs now for a month because coinabul didnt put a proper description or invoice
Feb 20 10:49:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 75 @ 0.00610001 = 0.4575 BTC [-]
Feb 20 10:50:39 <deadweasel>	shit.
Feb 20 10:50:44 <deadweasel>	sounds crappy as hell.
Feb 20 10:50:54 <deadweasel>	should ready the forums before buying, stupid me.
Feb 20 10:51:03 <deadweasel>	should have read*
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Feb 20 10:57:25 <pigeons>	talk to coingenuity here on irc about coinabul and he should be able to help you.
Feb 20 10:57:47 <Bicknellski_>	Note to self... no to coinabul
Feb 20 11:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1148 @ 0.00065069 = 0.747 BTC [+]
Feb 20 11:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11752 @ 0.0006507 = 7.647 BTC [+]
Feb 20 11:02:24 <usagi>	kakobrekla, I'm making money
Feb 20 11:02:36 <kakobrekla>	care to explain?
Feb 20 11:02:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00636802 = 6.368 BTC [+]
Feb 20 11:03:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00636803 = 1.9104 BTC [+]
Feb 20 11:03:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8700 @ 0.00639 = 55.593 BTC [+]
Feb 20 11:03:17 <usagi>	Well, it's like a wood shop, if you don't have a router you can still use a table saw to do tongue and groove
Feb 20 11:03:30 <pigeons>	no dont use analogies, just say how
Feb 20 11:03:38 <topace>	hey mircea_popescu: if someone PUSH's shares to my account, would i receive any sort of notification? in STATS? or STATSJSON?
Feb 20 11:03:39 <usagi>	Pay me for consultation :p
Feb 20 11:03:49 <pigeons>	ok pirate
Feb 20 11:03:59 <usagi>	If you know how to run a silver dealership it's a no brainer pigeons.
Feb 20 11:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065066 = 2.8115 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:04:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8398 @ 0.0006507 = 5.4646 BTC [+]
Feb 20 11:04:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:04:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4764 @ 0.00065568 = 3.1237 BTC [+]
Feb 20 11:04:31 <pigeons>	but this is a secret business model that if you explain to us, then it won't work anymore?
Feb 20 11:04:53 <usagi>	Pigeons, let me put it this way
Feb 20 11:04:59 <usagi>	Is the knowledge worth 1 BTC to you?
Feb 20 11:05:16 <pigeons>	no
Feb 20 11:05:17 <kakobrekla>	cpa still owes me like 200btc or so, take it from there
Feb 20 11:05:24 <usagi>	Then I'm not going to waste my time
Feb 20 11:05:36 <usagi>	Kako, 100 BTC I think :p I'd have to check
Feb 20 11:05:44 <usagi>	Yeah Im about to tell you in PM, it's no big deal reallt
Feb 20 11:06:42 <pigeons>	usagi: please don't come around here telling us you have a super secret method to make money selling something going up and buying something going down but that your too smart too waste your time actually backing it up unless you get paid
Feb 20 11:07:43 <pigeons>	usagi: how is that different from how a scammer would behave?
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Feb 20 11:08:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.680001 = 4.76 BTC [+]
Feb 20 11:08:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.68 = 34 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:08:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.67 = 4.69 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:08:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.661 = 5.949 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:08:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.66 = 17.82 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:08:32 <truffles>	trade secrets?
Feb 20 11:10:26 <Bicknellski_>	He is a teacher Pigeons.... just looking to cash in on his textbook.
Feb 20 11:10:52 <Bicknellski_>	Little Red Book... how to make Bitcoin sing for you.
Feb 20 11:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064726 = 2.7968 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00064711 = 9.2537 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:11:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6959 @ 0.00064212 = 4.4685 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 486 @ 0.00064122 = 0.3116 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 11:12:31 <usagi>	pigeons; jesus christ man
Feb 20 11:12:34 <usagi>	read a book lol
Feb 20 11:12:41 <usagi>	Here, I'll link you something special....
Feb 20 11:12:41 <pigeons>	which book?
Feb 20 11:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064064 = 2.7682 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3929 @ 0.00064096 = 2.5183 BTC [+]
Feb 20 11:13:15 <pigeons>	really, you're smart enough to execute this strategy successfully, but not smart enough to articulate an irc summary?
Feb 20 11:13:20 <Bicknellski_>	The one he hasnt written
Feb 20 11:13:29 <usagi>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5VNAEmmBQM
Feb 20 11:13:35 <pigeons>	i dont watch videos
Feb 20 11:13:40 <usagi>	Just go educate yoruself and stop pretending to be some kind of investigator lol
Feb 20 11:13:50 <pigeons>	i'm not a fucking investigator
Feb 20 11:13:54 <Bicknellski_>	It is the SECRET...
Feb 20 11:13:55 <Bicknellski_>	omg
Feb 20 11:13:58 <usagi>	No need to be ruse.....
Feb 20 11:14:01 <usagi>	rude*
Feb 20 11:14:10 <pigeons>	i apologize for my rudeness
Feb 20 11:14:14 <Bicknellski_>	Just hope and it happens
Feb 20 11:14:38 <pigeons>	can you please give us a loose general summary?
Feb 20 11:14:56 <usagi>	oops wrong video lol
Feb 20 11:15:09 <Bicknellski_>	Man... oh man
Feb 20 11:15:15 <usagi>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=tj2s6vzErqY
Feb 20 11:15:22 <usagi>	Thats a good one though,
Feb 20 11:16:00 <Bicknellski_>	Oh boy Glenn Beck
Feb 20 11:16:02 <jurov>	topace, there is no notification for incoming PUSH. just the balance changes.
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Feb 20 11:16:42 <topace>	jurov: hmm thats going to make it very difficult to automate anything with
Feb 20 11:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00063602 = 2.7985 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063551 = 2.746 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 11:17:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3829 @ 0.00063551 = 2.4334 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:18:01 <usagi>	Pigeons I'm essentially running a silver store. I have suppliers. I can buy silver cheaper than you can.
Feb 20 11:18:18 <jurov>	topace, you can ask user the receipt and ttry to validate it
Feb 20 11:18:19 <usagi>	I make money on the spot price spread. I don't care what the price is, I work the spread.
Feb 20 11:18:24 <usagi>	Just like every other dealer lol
Feb 20 11:18:27 <Bicknellski_>	Fools Gold: Inside the Glenn Beck Goldline Scheme http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/GoldlineGlennBeck4.jpg
Feb 20 11:19:19 <topace>	usagi: whats your current pricing on silver? im looking to pickup a few more ounces
Feb 20 11:19:24 <usagi>	It's like running a restaurant. Any restaurant can buy food cheaper than you can, they have to. They source it. Anyone can source it. But do you wanna spend 3 or 4 hrs a day doing that?
Feb 20 11:19:42 <usagi>	Currently selling 1/2oz rounds for for 1.3/oz
Feb 20 11:21:22 <pigeons>	who would pay that?
Feb 20 11:22:52 <usagi>	Well, given that coinabul charges 2.21
Feb 20 11:22:56 <usagi>	I'd say, anyone and their grandma
Feb 20 11:23:11 <usagi>	Im like, 40% off. take your pick, I don't care if you buy from coinabul or me.
Feb 20 11:23:31 <Bicknellski_>	THere is a pitch
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Feb 20 11:24:02 <pigeons>	spam detected
Feb 20 11:24:08 <Bicknellski_>	40%
Feb 20 11:24:11 <Bugpowder>	Dude.  They sell 1oz coins fro 1.27
Feb 20 11:24:23 <Bugpowder>	why would you buy the 1/2oz
Feb 20 11:24:27 <usagi>	What do they sell 1/2 oz rounds for?
Feb 20 11:24:44 <Bugpowder>	1.1
Feb 20 11:24:49 <usagi>	Read again
Feb 20 11:24:51 <Bugpowder>	why would anyone buy those though?
Feb 20 11:24:59 <usagi>	Per oz it's 2.21
Feb 20 11:25:21 <usagi>	I dunno, because they're cool? hehe
Feb 20 11:25:23 <Bugpowder>	so you beat their least interesting product
Feb 20 11:25:30 <Bugpowder>	But this... http://coinabul.com/silver/index.php/silver-sorted-by-weight/liberty-eagle-silver-dollar-coins.html
Feb 20 11:25:31 <usagi>	I guess they're looking for small denomination silver
Feb 20 11:25:32 <pigeons>	they wouldn't. they don't. they can get them cheaper
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Feb 20 11:26:03 <Bugpowder>	฿1.2377 Liberty Eagle - 1 Troy ounce
Feb 20 11:26:44 <usagi>	Not really here to flog my company but, I run the only precious metals fund which can expect a positive ROI
Feb 20 11:27:01 <usagi>	every other fund has to charge you for storage fees, the long term value is always zero on any other fund
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Feb 20 11:27:28 <pigeons>	usagi, you argued with me when you came in here saying i was ridiculous for not believing "IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR CPA TO GO BANKRUPT"
Feb 20 11:27:34 <usagi>	My company pays a small dividend. There's added value.
Feb 20 11:27:44 <pigeons>	spam detected
Feb 20 11:28:03 <usagi>	pigeons; Do you like me?
Feb 20 11:28:10 <pigeons>	so you owe kakobrekla 200+ btc for cpa?
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Feb 20 11:30:34 <kakobrekla>	just checked, its exactly 200.
Feb 20 11:30:48 <usagi>	You'll be paid as soon as imsaguy returns cpa's 350 bitcoins.
Feb 20 11:30:55 <kakobrekla>	aka never.
Feb 20 11:31:20 <pigeons>	how does imsaguy have it?
Feb 20 11:31:32 <usagi>	Sorry bro, what did you get -- 1000 bitcoins? on like 100 in payments? :)
Feb 20 11:31:37 <kakobrekla>	hint: imsa doesnt have it.
Feb 20 11:31:41 <usagi>	Yeah I know
Feb 20 11:31:51 <usagi>	I'll spare you the list of the 1000+ btc we're owed
Feb 20 11:31:58 <pigeons>	why does imsaguy owe it to you?
Feb 20 11:32:07 <usagi>	Because I invested in EIEIO
Feb 20 11:32:16 <usagi>	He's repaid 150+
Feb 20 11:32:26 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 20 11:32:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.62211, Best ask: 29.64999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02788, Last trade: 29.64999, 24 hour volume: 49946.12298648, 24 hour low: 28.61200, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.26420
Feb 20 11:32:38 <usagi>	I trust him, but it may take a long time to get the rest. Imsaguy is a standup guy. he does a good job. but it will take a while.
Feb 20 11:32:38 <pigeons>	how much does imsaguy owe you now?
Feb 20 11:32:46 <usagi>	300 maybe 350 max
Feb 20 11:33:01 <pigeons>	can you find out for me, i want to talk to him about it
Feb 20 11:33:08 <usagi>	brendio has cpa's 33848 shares of bitvps which would come in handy right now too.
Feb 20 11:33:18 <usagi>	Go ahead, it's at least 300. I'll just say 300.
Feb 20 11:33:23 <usagi>	I would take 50 cents on the dollar.
Feb 20 11:34:58 <pigeons>	still odd an insurance company invests in old mcdonald the ppt operator
Feb 20 11:35:48 <usagi>	It was a mining farm.
Feb 20 11:35:57 <pigeons>	eieio
Feb 20 11:36:07 <usagi>	When pirate collapsed, inneedausername asked for a 5000 btc refund to cover gippt
Feb 20 11:36:12 <usagi>	And imsaguy collapsed
Feb 20 11:36:18 <usagi>	It was something along those lines.
Feb 20 11:36:28 <usagi>	I didn't have priority because my 500 btc investment was much smaller.
Feb 20 11:36:34 <usagi>	So I got left out in the cold.
Feb 20 11:36:44 <usagi>	GIPPT got paid back and I got screwed.
Feb 20 11:36:48 <Bicknellski_>	Brrrrr
Feb 20 11:37:01 <usagi>	Well, since you asked.
Feb 20 11:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	soo whats up ?
Feb 20 11:38:05 <Bugpowder>	bitcoins
Feb 20 11:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly ?
Feb 20 11:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	o hey 29 cool
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Feb 20 11:38:53 <imsaguy>	usagi: remember the message where you said it wasn't a rush to get paid back?
Feb 20 11:38:58 <imsaguy>	thats the last you said to me
Feb 20 11:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	topace you wouldn't receive a notification. you'd see the extra shares in your balance
Feb 20 11:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	whoever pushes them has a signed receipt they can show you.
Feb 20 11:39:06 <imsaguy>	but then in public you state something differently.
Feb 20 11:39:15 <usagi>	imsaguy like i said, it may take a long time, but I trust you.
Feb 20 11:39:22 <usagi>	<usagi> I trust him, but it may take a long time to get the rest. Imsaguy is a standup guy. he does a good job. but it will take a while.
Feb 20 11:39:35 <imsaguy>	We're getting there.
Feb 20 11:39:42 <usagi>	I realize the pressure your under, I'm under the same. Take your time.
Feb 20 11:40:00 <imsaguy>	I realize its been expensive for you, it likewise has been for me.
Feb 20 11:40:29 <usagi>	It's not your fault :)
Feb 20 11:41:09 <pigeons>	how many bitvps shares did you say brendio has?
Feb 20 11:41:18 <usagi>	Of mine? 33848 is my last record
Feb 20 11:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	i get t his feeling i'm missing out on like half the btc drama
Feb 20 11:41:24 <usagi>	it might be a bit up or down
Feb 20 11:41:30 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: more than half
Feb 20 11:41:39 <imsaguy>	there's no 'keeping up' with all of the drama
Feb 20 11:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	i will die poor.
Feb 20 11:42:02 <imsaguy>	ultimately, doesn't everyone?
Feb 20 11:42:07 <topace>	mircea_popescu: what does that receipt look like? also, do you have any sort of API, besides just scripting with the pympex script?
Feb 20 11:42:18 <imsaguy>	has brendio defaulted?
Feb 20 11:42:38 <usagi>	Brendio's story checks out, and he didn't sell any shares on btc-tc yet AFAIK
Feb 20 11:42:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 492 @ 0.00063551 = 0.3127 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:42:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5008 @ 0.00063551 = 3.1826 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	topace something like "Your request to push x of y to z has been received and will be processed." signed by mpex. and no.
Feb 20 11:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	i don't know what an api would do other than that tho ?
Feb 20 11:43:03 <topace>	mircea_popescu: yea, i guess :)
Feb 20 11:43:11 <topace>	mircea_popescu: k thanks... ill see what i can do  :)
Feb 20 11:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	it's seriously better than any api, just get py/perl going
Feb 20 11:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	and i seriously can't believe nobody's written a bitbet bot yet.
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Feb 20 11:44:29 <topace>	bitbet bot ? just to trade BBET shares?
Feb 20 11:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	nono, to fake line betting for the people too lazy to think
Feb 20 11:45:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's trivial to extract a profit from offering lines on top of bitbet.
Feb 20 11:45:40 <topace>	lines?
Feb 20 11:45:49 <topace>	sometimes i have no clue what you're talking about :p
Feb 20 11:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	you know what line betting is ?
Feb 20 11:46:46 <topace>	nope
Feb 20 11:46:50 <topace>	guess im not a gambler :p
Feb 20 11:47:04 <Bicknellski_>	What about the other half of the drama mircea_popescu ....
Feb 20 11:47:04 <pigeons>	were their 8 mpex S.BVPS holders at time of delisting? and brendio is 1?
Feb 20 11:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	hehe then it wouldn't make any sense would it.
Feb 20 11:47:20 <usagi>	There are not that many interesting bets on bitbet.us :<
Feb 20 11:47:21 <mircea_popescu>	Bicknellski_ which one other half ? there's like 3.
Feb 20 11:47:33 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news :
Feb 20 11:47:33 <usagi>	I check it every day hoping for something cool. It's because I am not into sports.
Feb 20 11:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	"The French workforce gets paid high wages but works only three hours. They get one hour for breaks and lunch, talk for three and work for three," Taylor wrote on February 8 in the letter in English to the minister, Arnaud Montebourg.
Feb 20 11:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	"Titan is going to buy a Chinese tire company or an Indian one, pay less than one Euro per hour wage and ship all the tires France needs," he said. "You can keep the so-called workers."
Feb 20 11:47:46 <mircea_popescu>	this guy is like, my new hero.
Feb 20 11:48:11 <usagi>	Chinese manufacturing is hitting a wall now.
Feb 20 11:48:26 <imsaguy>	https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/267903_522618091124242_637100570_n.jpg
Feb 20 11:48:29 <usagi>	Makita and other companies are forced to offer two brands now. For example in the sliding compound mitre saw category
Feb 20 11:48:56 <usagi>	There is the 1016 and the 1018; the 1018 is less than half the price and made in china, but the 1016 is the same saw made to a higher quality standard by higher paid workers in japan or USA
Feb 20 11:49:03 <Bicknellski_>	At some point all manufacturing will have to be "local"
Feb 20 11:49:20 <usagi>	I can buy a new 1016L for $1000+ or an older 1018 model (the 1040) for less than $200
Feb 20 11:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	not too likely.
Feb 20 11:49:37 <usagi>	But no one ever buys the cheap shit because it doesn't work properly, contractors never buy it
Feb 20 11:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	there's always going to be communes of idiots who will firmly believe they can circlejerk reality into changing.
Feb 20 11:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	those will have to be routed around by manufacturing/mattering/sanity in general.
Feb 20 11:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006357 = 2.7469 BTC [+]
Feb 20 11:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10992 @ 0.00063551 = 6.9855 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:50:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12965 @ 0.0006355 = 8.2393 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:51:00 <Bicknellski_>	Communes?
Feb 20 11:51:27 <usagi>	the closer you are to the mountain, the farther away from the emperor.
Feb 20 11:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 20 11:51:45 <Bicknellski_>	There are idiots at all levels in all walks in all ivory towers
Feb 20 11:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	group without hierarchy = commune. any bunch of people that make "we're all equal" a group norm.
Feb 20 11:52:15 <Bicknellski_>	Like open source
Feb 20 11:52:20 <Bicknellski_>	ya they are idiots
Feb 20 11:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	or more practically speaking, any group in which a majority lacks a concrete and definite understanding of their inferiority.
Feb 20 11:52:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bicknellski_ open source ain't manufacturing now is it.
Feb 20 11:52:50 <Bicknellski_>	you were talking comunes
Feb 20 11:52:57 <Bicknellski_>	they are commune
Feb 20 11:52:59 <Bicknellski_>	no?
Feb 20 11:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	open source doesn't meet the commune definitions above either.
Feb 20 11:53:12 <Bicknellski_>	it is not a commune
Feb 20 11:53:27 <mircea_popescu>	so then what are we talkin about!
Feb 20 11:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144927.0 lmao
Feb 20 11:53:46 <Bicknellski_>	groups without hierarch
Feb 20 11:53:58 <Bicknellski_>	... we are all equal
Feb 20 11:54:03 <Bicknellski_>	... commune
Feb 20 11:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy no way, that's legit ?
Feb 20 11:54:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bicknellski_ who's equal ?
Feb 20 11:54:51 <Bicknellski_>	Are they?
Feb 20 11:55:03 <Bicknellski_>	Like open sources
Feb 20 11:55:15 <Bicknellski_>	they can be tarred with the same brush no?
Feb 20 11:55:29 <Bicknellski_>	idiots.
Feb 20 11:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	...
Feb 20 11:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	i fail to see your reasoning here.
Feb 20 11:55:49 <Bicknellski_>	I think I fail to see yours
Feb 20 11:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	so who's equal to who ?
Feb 20 11:56:04 <Bicknellski_>	how are people idiots if they subscribe to communal think
Feb 20 11:56:07 <Bicknellski_>	thinking
Feb 20 11:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	by definition. that's what it takes to be an idiot : not think.
Feb 20 11:56:35 <Bicknellski_>	there's always going to be communes of idiots who will firmly believe they can circlejerk reality into changing.
Feb 20 11:56:44 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 20 11:56:57 <Bicknellski_>	so people in the open source communit are idiots
Feb 20 11:56:59 <Bicknellski_>	got it
Feb 20 11:57:02 *	jcpham not thinks
Feb 20 11:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	how do you figure ?
Feb 20 11:57:26 <Bicknellski_>	how are they different than other communes
Feb 20 11:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	this is like "water won't go uphill" "ok so icecream vendors are pervets". doth not follow.
Feb 20 11:57:44 <Bicknellski_>	no it isnt
Feb 20 11:58:02 <Bicknellski_>	there's always going to be communes of idiots who will firmly believe they can circlejerk reality into changing.
Feb 20 11:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	there's no similarity. open source is a venture centered around a project. that project actually exist.
Feb 20 11:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 728 @ 0.00063488 = 0.4622 BTC [-]
Feb 20 11:58:17 <Bicknellski_>	No one in the open source commune thinks that way?
Feb 20 11:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	people belong or don't belong by how they contribute to the actual project
Feb 20 11:58:18 <Bicknellski_>	really
Feb 20 11:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	people who just dick around and suck cock (gmaxwell, taaki, who have you) aren't even part of it.
Feb 20 11:58:39 <mircea_popescu>	now, the people actually involved may be too polite to point it out explicitly
Feb 20 11:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	but then again it doesn't really need to be made explicit.
Feb 20 11:58:55 <Bicknellski_>	so there is no commune in open source
Feb 20 11:59:00 <Bicknellski_>	elites and posers
Feb 20 11:59:11 <mircea_popescu>	not in the sense defined, no, which is what i said.
Feb 20 11:59:21 <Bicknellski_>	those who contribute and those who pose
Feb 20 11:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	open source is exactly well implemented elitism : we are better than you, and here's why.
Feb 20 12:00:17 <B0g4r7_>	1337
Feb 20 12:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	also hax.
Feb 20 12:00:32 <Bicknellski_>	after it has touched 100 posers hands... to the 1 hand of the elite to make it work?
Feb 20 12:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	"Although it shouldn't be a surprise, given the company is run by wankers, Coinbase is a leading player in the Bitcoin world that discourages anonymity, unlike similar online wallet services."
Feb 20 12:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	the forum never fails.
Feb 20 12:00:56 <Bicknellski_>	where does one determine the merit of what is added on?
Feb 20 12:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	Bicknellski_ well, it has to make it in the main repo, for one.
Feb 20 12:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	look at linus' maintenance record.
Feb 20 12:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	it also has to be used once it has. look at canonical's unite failure.
Feb 20 12:01:51 <Bicknellski_>	well above my pay grade
Feb 20 12:01:57 <Bicknellski_>	but I can follow go on
Feb 20 12:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	that's kinda it.
Feb 20 12:02:25 <Bicknellski_>	Well then I cant follow
Feb 20 12:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	which part ?
Feb 20 12:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	this "i can't follow" is like "error message : there was an error".
Feb 20 12:03:07 <Bicknellski_>	The terms that were meant to prove your point
Feb 20 12:03:14 <Bicknellski_>	never heard of that before
Feb 20 12:03:18 <Bicknellski_>	simplify
Feb 20 12:03:28 <B0g4r7_>	s/unite/unity/
Feb 20 12:03:32 <Bicknellski_>	... anyhow it proves your point
Feb 20 12:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	well mebbe one day if i get aroudn to it/figure out how to.
Feb 20 12:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 o that's right.
Feb 20 12:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	unite was opera's failure i think
Feb 20 12:03:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3922 @ 0.00063496 = 2.4903 BTC [+]
Feb 20 12:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	or something.
Feb 20 12:03:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 228 @ 0.00063425 = 0.1446 BTC [-]
Feb 20 12:03:55 <markedathome>	so - , openoffice, in a spreadsheet I want to import in a nice named area a csv file.
Feb 20 12:03:56 <markedathome>	Insert | Link to External Data -> select file, select "," and deselect tabs as separators.
Feb 20 12:03:56 <markedathome>	and.... nothing. No area to select. Just what planet are the devs on to let this idiotic stupidity through?
Feb 20 12:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome incidentally, didn't open office project implode a few years back ?
Feb 20 12:04:40 <B0g4r7_>	#openoffice
Feb 20 12:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	and it's like libre now or something ?
Feb 20 12:04:49 <pigeons>	yeah libreoffice is maintained
Feb 20 12:04:51 <B0g4r7_>	I've had better results with libreoffice.
Feb 20 12:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	"Cosmetic Surgery Crowdfunding @ theperfectboobs.net"
Feb 20 12:05:01 <mircea_popescu>	dude! SRSLY!
Feb 20 12:05:08 <markedathome>	with the disaster this "simple" process has, I am not surprised...
Feb 20 12:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	crowdsourced tits. they're for the internets anyway.
Feb 20 12:05:19 <B0g4r7_>	The perfect boobs are natural ones.
Feb 20 12:05:26 <mircea_popescu>	not dotnet.
Feb 20 12:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	dotnet's always been a fake.
Feb 20 12:06:07 <markedathome>	woohoo only 287 days to go for reindexing... (0.8)
Feb 20 12:06:29 <B0g4r7_>	I did that yesterday.  Took forever.
Feb 20 12:06:35 <B0g4r7_>	It gets slower as it goes on.
Feb 20 12:06:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00063425 = 7.611 BTC [-]
Feb 20 12:06:45 <B0g4r7_>	Give it all the cpu and IO you can spare.
Feb 20 12:06:55 <mircea_popescu>	at the risk of appearing about as clueless as i am, what is a reindexing ?
Feb 20 12:07:11 <B0g4r7_>	It's what happened to me when I upgraded to 0.8.0 of the satoshi client.
Feb 20 12:07:22 <B0g4r7_>	Spent hours "reindexing blocks".
Feb 20 12:07:34 <kakobrekla>	0.8 is out?
Feb 20 12:07:43 <B0g4r7_>	aye
Feb 20 12:07:45 <kakobrekla>	im getting old.
Feb 20 12:07:46 <B0g4r7_>	Yesterday
Feb 20 12:07:56 <markedathome>	transitioning from the old berkelydb (with 7GB of data) to google's shiny LevelDB format, unknown as to the db size at least from my end.
Feb 20 12:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	why would you ?
Feb 20 12:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	critical vuln in old version or something ?
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Feb 20 12:08:31 <B0g4r7_>	Well, I just did it as a favor to the devs, to help test it.
Feb 20 12:08:40 <markedathome>	yeah, it takes 3 days to import 1 days worth of transactions... :-)
Feb 20 12:08:40 <pigeons>	no they are still flat files of block data, just written in several smaller files in directories now
Feb 20 12:09:03 <markedathome>	6 days if you have a hard disk and not an ssd
Feb 20 12:09:07 <pigeons>	i too thought it was berkelydb but that's just the wallet and ip dbs
Feb 20 12:09:25 <B0g4r7_>	It took several hours on a SB i7 with an SSD.
Feb 20 12:09:29 <pigeons>	and yes it takes days to read in the large file and write out all the small ones
Feb 20 12:09:33 <B0g4r7_>	And quite a bit longer on a q6600 with ssd.
Feb 20 12:09:35 <markedathome>	then what format was the blkindex?
Feb 20 12:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	wouldn't it be easier to just re-dld the chain ?
Feb 20 12:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h G.BBET
Feb 20 12:09:59 <assbot>	Things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun.
Feb 20 12:10:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct G.BBET
Feb 20 12:10:08 <assbot>	Some are born to endless night.
Feb 20 12:10:12 <pigeons>	yeah blkindex.dat berkely
Feb 20 12:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	ok i give up. which is this one
Feb 20 12:11:09 <pigeons>	!ticker btct.co g.bbet
Feb 20 12:11:10 <assbot>	Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
Feb 20 12:11:16 <markedathome>	!ticker btct GGBET
Feb 20 12:11:18 <assbot>	It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money.
Feb 20 12:11:25 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: there is a bitbet bot...
Feb 20 12:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller a there is ?
Feb 20 12:11:41 <thestringpuller>	there is a mini-whale on bitbet
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Feb 20 12:11:51 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: when it re-dl's the chain it has to verify each transaction
Feb 20 12:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	well ya there's been some massive bets but i was thinking more of offering it as a service.
Feb 20 12:12:09 *	jurov just completed first street btc sale
Feb 20 12:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons it can't POSSIBLY take more than a week can it ?!
Feb 20 12:12:27 <pigeons>	no it doesnt take a week
Feb 20 12:12:30 <jurov>	feels like point of no return. i'm dealer now :D
Feb 20 12:12:41 <B0g4r7_>	You were seller?
Feb 20 12:12:42 <Bicknellski_>	need handsanitizer jurov
Feb 20 12:12:42 <markedathome>	well, it is all go this week - linux 3.8, firefox 19, bitcoin client 0.8, playstation 4... .
Feb 20 12:12:51 <thestringpuller>	jurov: what did you sell
Feb 20 12:12:57 <Bicknellski_>	sperm
Feb 20 12:13:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu well the mini-whale is a bookie, wait till baseball season
Feb 20 12:13:07 <jurov>	sold few bitcoins for euros
Feb 20 12:13:14 <B0g4r7_>	Nice.
Feb 20 12:13:24 <thestringpuller>	so I suspect he's run through a bot
Feb 20 12:13:30 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller that's ap oin ya
Feb 20 12:15:20 <thestringpuller>	ap oin ya?
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Feb 20 12:15:31 <usagi>	jurov, when do the mpoe bond passthrus mature? today?
Feb 20 12:15:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063656 = 2.7506 BTC [+]
Feb 20 12:15:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9734 @ 0.00063683 = 6.1989 BTC [+]
Feb 20 12:15:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4011 @ 0.00063782 = 2.5583 BTC [+]
Feb 20 12:15:47 <usagi>	i'm excited about it
Feb 20 12:15:51 <thestringpuller>	friday...
Feb 20 12:16:01 <thestringpuller>	friday you will see what the actual % mpoe bot made
Feb 20 12:16:06 <usagi>	Ahh
Feb 20 12:16:38 <thestringpuller>	did you not read da faq? :P
Feb 20 12:16:45 <pigeons>	no refunds!
Feb 20 12:16:54 <usagi>	I have a poor memory, the number 20 sticks in my mind
Feb 20 12:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	a point yeah
Feb 20 12:17:12 <thestringpuller>	"last friday of the month"
Feb 20 12:17:35 <thestringpuller>	!ticker X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 20 12:17:36 <assbot>	Have you got any tobacco?
Feb 20 12:17:41 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 20 12:17:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC)
Feb 20 12:17:50 <thestringpuller>	coincendental heh
Feb 20 12:17:57 <jurov>	usagi, yes today midnight. if ukto will be around
Feb 20 12:18:09 <thestringpuller>	jurov: is this for january?
Feb 20 12:18:13 <thestringpuller>	or february
Feb 20 12:18:16 <jurov>	oh no mement
Feb 20 12:18:28 <thestringpuller>	mement?
Feb 20 12:18:32 <usagi>	i think he means one moment
Feb 20 12:18:38 <jurov>	derp, moment
Feb 20 12:18:43 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 20 12:18:49 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222206 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1569 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 2 hours, 55 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4221147.10761 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.61582
Feb 20 12:18:56 <jurov>	today midnight matures only CoinBr.iDiff-E , the difficulty future
Feb 20 12:19:16 <jurov>	i'm gonna pay 0.03651011 per share
Feb 20 12:19:26 <thestringpuller>	futures mature on thursday?
Feb 20 12:19:36 <thestringpuller>	thursdays*
Feb 20 12:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller well, mpex runs imm dates. jurov took the concept of imm dates and made them monthly
Feb 20 12:19:47 <jurov>	CoinBr.MPBPT-E, the MPOE Bond passthrough, matures friday midnight
Feb 20 12:19:51 <mircea_popescu>	which is a little innovative, but hey.
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Feb 20 12:20:37 <jurov>	thestringpuller, futures mature wednesday midnight. both coinbr and mpex ones.
Feb 20 12:20:59 <thestringpuller>	i see that now
Feb 20 12:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063434 = 2.741 BTC [-]
Feb 20 12:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5579 @ 0.00063425 = 3.5385 BTC [-]
Feb 20 12:21:41 <thestringpuller>	how are you funding coinbr futures contracts?
Feb 20 12:21:51 <thestringpuller>	bonds like mircea?
Feb 20 12:22:48 <jurov>	either i sell covered by my own funds, or i just accept collateral from whoever wants to short
Feb 20 12:23:01 <jurov>	i'm not paying interest on that collateral
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Feb 20 12:23:40 <usagi>	jurov at 0.036 a share doesn't that mean a loss? I'm suprised they lost that much
Feb 20 12:24:05 <usagi>	I only bought 100 shares but I paid 0.1007 I think
Feb 20 12:24:22 <jurov>	if you bought them at 0.045 (expecting difficulty to be 4.5m) then yes,it's a loss
Feb 20 12:24:32 <thestringpuller>	diff contracts are a bit for the diff going up
Feb 20 12:24:35 <thestringpuller>	bet*
Feb 20 12:24:42 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,diff
Feb 20 12:24:42 <gribble>	3651011.6306932
Feb 20 12:24:51 <thestringpuller>	.1 is too expensive for an idiff
Feb 20 12:24:53 <usagi>	Oh I mean the even and odd mpoe bonds passthru
Feb 20 12:25:02 <jurov>	i did never sell under 0.039 so i ended up with profit this time
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Feb 20 12:25:24 <thestringpuller>	you are selling/buying your own contracts?
Feb 20 12:25:25 <thestringpuller>	lol
Feb 20 12:25:30 <thestringpuller>	jurov is his own futures bot
Feb 20 12:26:42 <jurov>	Okay. Now for mpoe bonds passthrough, I can be profitable even when selling them bit under nominal value. I won't reveal how, but it's quite hidden in plain sight.
Feb 20 12:27:22 <thestringpuller>	how do you price them?
Feb 20 12:27:51 <jurov>	the first ones sell at 0.1003 , then up to 0.101
Feb 20 12:28:05 <thestringpuller>	lol hidden in plain sight :P
Feb 20 12:28:44 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 20 12:28:46 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222208 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1567 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 2 hours, 39 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4229167.93495 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.83551
Feb 20 12:29:03 <thestringpuller>	lol asics are a myth
Feb 20 12:29:07 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,tslb
Feb 20 12:29:08 <gribble>	Time since last block: 5 minutes and 5 seconds
Feb 20 12:29:13 <thestringpuller>	:D
Feb 20 12:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://gfyi95.com/bASIC/bASIC%20Forum/www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.html
Feb 20 12:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty cool, whodunnit ?
Feb 20 12:29:53 <jurov>	 <thestringpuller> .1 is too expensive for an idiff << why?
Feb 20 12:30:29 <thestringpuller>	The difficulty is expected to stay below 10 million atm
Feb 20 12:30:35 <thestringpuller>	but soon .1 may be good
Feb 20 12:30:39 <thestringpuller>	for like a september
Feb 20 12:31:32 <thestringpuller>	but for mar .1 is too much
Feb 20 12:31:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's possibly the most volatile thing in existence atm.
Feb 20 12:31:39 <jurov>	heck, i offer collateral 0.15 for CoinBr.iDiff-O
Feb 20 12:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	diff can go up 1000x
Feb 20 12:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	over a six week period or w/e
Feb 20 12:31:55 <jurov>	the march one
Feb 20 12:31:57 <thestringpuller>	it CAN but with asics it's more likely to go up
Feb 20 12:32:23 <jurov>	and my offering at 0.7 just sold out today
Feb 20 12:32:32 <jurov>	so that's public opinion
Feb 20 12:32:49 <jurov>	* 0.07 sry
Feb 20 12:33:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i grabbed some of those
Feb 20 12:34:33 <thestringpuller>	.07 for O or E?
Feb 20 12:34:40 <ThickAsThieves>	O
Feb 20 12:34:50 <jurov>	O( march 20)
Feb 20 12:35:09 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 20 12:35:09 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 15 hours, 24 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 20 12:35:42 <kakobrekla>	can someone send him en email already
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Feb 20 12:36:27 <usagi>	isn't he in the channel
Feb 20 12:36:50 <jurov>	but away
Feb 20 12:36:55 <thestringpuller>	very away
Feb 20 12:37:15 <thestringpuller>	maternity away most likely
Feb 20 12:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20793 @ 0.00063425 = 13.188 BTC [-]
Feb 20 12:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2607 @ 0.00063407 = 1.653 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 12:38:54 <thestringpuller>	s.mpoe is at a low today lol
Feb 20 12:39:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 30
Feb 20 12:39:02 <gribble>	There are currently 10677.262 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 319913.719394 USD in total.
Feb 20 12:39:19 <jurov>	erryone cashing out
Feb 20 12:39:28 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 25
Feb 20 12:39:30 <gribble>	There are currently 49226.405 bitcoins demanded at or over 25.0 USD, worth 1341765.94829 USD in total.
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Feb 20 12:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3185 @ 0.00063407 = 2.0195 BTC [-]
Feb 20 12:41:54 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: I just sent one.
Feb 20 12:42:23 <kakobrekla>	took long enough
Feb 20 12:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	omg bfl is shipping
Feb 20 12:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8146 @ 0.00063407 = 5.1651 BTC [-]
Feb 20 12:45:13 <Bicknellski_>	<mircea_popescu> omg bfl is shipping "Words You Thought He'd Never Say"
Feb 20 12:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	i'm good at that.
Feb 20 12:45:43 <kakobrekla>	url?
Feb 20 12:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://totally-legit.com
Feb 20 12:46:15 <kakobrekla>	ah i was already on http://pirate-paid.org
Feb 20 12:46:31 <mircea_popescu>	it's pirate-paid.lol
Feb 20 12:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	how come there's not a lol tld already ?
Feb 20 12:46:48 <kakobrekla>	.lol costs like a million bucks or so
Feb 20 12:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	all the cats could be expelled there
Feb 20 12:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla no it costs 1mn internets
Feb 20 12:47:02 <jurov>	fudr.us isn't enough?
Feb 20 12:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	which is like... .06 btc or some shit
Feb 20 12:47:11 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 20 12:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	ok, well, i'm off to exile.
Feb 20 12:48:07 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone missed the psa yest,
Feb 20 12:48:11 <kakobrekla>	i forgot
Feb 20 12:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/path-of-exile/
Feb 20 12:48:14 <kakobrekla>	but its 1 or 10 mio
Feb 20 12:48:15 <kakobrekla>	for real
Feb 20 12:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	totally gotta play that game.
Feb 20 12:48:19 <kakobrekla>	to get a tld
Feb 20 12:48:25 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu see pm
Feb 20 12:51:42 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: you have a windows machine?
Feb 20 12:51:58 <pigeons>	i saw that game but its an .msi
Feb 20 12:54:06 <jurov>	pigeons, read the comments. he's running it on wine
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Feb 20 12:54:52 <pigeons>	how do i launch the msiexec installer on wine?
Feb 20 12:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2512 @ 0.00063407 = 1.5928 BTC [-]
Feb 20 12:55:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7138 @ 0.00063391 = 4.5248 BTC [-]
Feb 20 12:55:10 <jurov>	wine installer.msi doesn't work?
Feb 20 12:55:31 <pigeons>	no, but wine misexec installer.msi works, cool
Feb 20 12:55:38 <pigeons>	*msiexec
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Feb 20 12:56:34 <pigeons>	wine msiexec /i PathOfExileInstaller.msi
Feb 20 12:57:43 <pigeons>	with just wine i get wine: Bad EXE format for PathOfExileInstaller.msi
Feb 20 12:58:08 <pigeons>	i was wanting to try it too
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Feb 20 13:05:05 <jurov>	lol, anyone cares to mention mpex there? http://vincesamios.com/bitcoins/valuations-of-stocks-in-bitcoin-brain-melt
Feb 20 13:05:50 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 20 13:05:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.83010, Best ask: 29.84500, Bid-ask spread: 0.01490, Last trade: 29.83010, 24 hour volume: 49106.10612446, 24 hour low: 28.61200, 24 hour high: 29.86900, 24 hour vwap: 29.35041
Feb 20 13:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19668 @ 0.00063464 = 12.4821 BTC [+]
Feb 20 13:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1632 @ 0.00063782 = 1.0409 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 13:11:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3057 @ 0.00063782 = 1.9498 BTC [+]
Feb 20 13:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063937 = 2.7627 BTC [+]
Feb 20 13:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14622 @ 0.00063938 = 9.349 BTC [+]
Feb 20 13:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063396 = 2.7393 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9962 @ 0.00063391 = 6.315 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 517 @ 0.00063353 = 0.3275 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2583 @ 0.00063353 = 1.6364 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28917 @ 0.00063346 = 18.3178 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:18:20 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 20 13:18:21 <gribble>	29.35
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Feb 20 13:20:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00063346 = 5.7962 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 13:25:21 <topace>	Bugpowder: hey you there?
Feb 20 13:26:23 <Bugpowder>	yea
Feb 20 13:27:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10433 @ 0.00063346 = 6.6089 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13967 @ 0.0006334 = 8.8467 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:28:01 <topace>	ah excellent... pm?
Feb 20 13:29:13 <Bowjob>	looks like avalon got delayed
Feb 20 13:29:32 <Bugpowder>	ho ho ho
Feb 20 13:29:51 <Bugpowder>	I am STUNNED
Feb 20 13:29:52 <Bowjob>	"If you order now this batch is scheduled to start shipping by March 10th and before April 15th."
Feb 20 13:30:00 <Bowjob>	For batch 2
Feb 20 13:30:07 <Bugpowder>	nobody is gonna buy my XDIFFS :(
Feb 20 13:30:13 <Bowjob>	They caught a small dose of BFL syndrome
Feb 20 13:30:18 <B0g4r7_>	Source?
Feb 20 13:30:26 <Bowjob>	http://store.avalon-asics.com/?product=avalon-asic-batch-2
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Feb 20 13:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063937 = 2.7627 BTC [+]
Feb 20 13:31:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16179 @ 0.00063938 = 10.3445 BTC [+]
Feb 20 13:31:11 <B0g4r7_>	Hm, a small delay/
Feb 20 13:31:18 <B0g4r7_>	Used to be Mar 5 to April 5.
Feb 20 13:31:37 <B0g4r7_>	Still is on launch.
Feb 20 13:33:22 <Bowjob>	Another ASIC spotted
Feb 20 13:33:23 <Bowjob>	http://hhtt.1209k.com/user-details.php?user=1MngEke9hbW2RYGnw27r5QgS1TXLC68TV6
Feb 20 13:33:28 <Bowjob>	Probably an Avalon
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Feb 20 13:35:25 <Diablo-D3>	sure its not asicminer?
Feb 20 13:35:31 <Diablo-D3>	they're mining on at least 2 pools
Feb 20 13:36:57 <Bowjob>	well, its 66 GHZ
Feb 20 13:37:04 <Bowjob>	gigahash
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Feb 20 13:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00063845 = 2.4261 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:43:28 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: ghash not ghz
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Feb 20 13:44:31 <B0g4r7_>	A guy came on eligius the other day with 6 fpga mini-rigs.  162ghps.
Feb 20 13:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons runs fine on wine
Feb 20 13:48:31 <pigeons>	i can't get it installed yet
Feb 20 13:49:18 <JWU_42>	Bowjob: agreed
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Feb 20 13:49:41 <mircea_popescu>	they do use some retarded contiguous space allocation scheme so be prepared for like 2 hour's worth of "allocating space"
Feb 20 13:49:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1883 @ 0.0006334 = 1.1927 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:49:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063323 = 2.7362 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:49:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1146 @ 0.00063322 = 0.7257 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	but it's sorta like btc - retardedly long to donwload, worth it.
Feb 20 13:50:29 <jurov>	lol maybe they use blockchain for game items
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Feb 20 13:55:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 521 @ 0.00063845 = 0.3326 BTC [+]
Feb 20 13:55:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00063864 = 13.1241 BTC [+]
Feb 20 13:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8279 @ 0.00063938 = 5.2934 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 13:56:15 <ThickAsThieves>	$30.10694
Feb 20 13:56:31 <error4733>	haha :)
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Feb 20 13:56:35 <error4733>	not funny
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Feb 20 13:57:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 925 @ 0.00610001 = 5.6425 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:57:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 95 @ 0.0061 = 0.5795 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:57:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00609387 = 10.3596 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:57:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00604826 = 12.3989 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:57:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00604806 = 6.0481 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2752 @ 0.00604805 = 16.6442 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:57:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 36426 @ 0.0057 = 207.6282 BTC [-]
Feb 20 13:57:46 <dub>	the mystery of the dissappearing mircea_popescu solved
Feb 20 13:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	im dissapearing ?
Feb 20 13:58:06 <ThickAsThieves>	dang
Feb 20 13:58:15 <dub>	intothe mmo
Feb 20 13:58:18 <ThickAsThieves>	someone moving a lot of SDICE lately
Feb 20 13:58:40 <dub>	yeah, tanking
Feb 20 13:59:28 <ThickAsThieves>	someone might just wanna cash out some BTC
Feb 20 14:00:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 20 14:00:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.77001, Best ask: 29.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 29.77001, 24 hour volume: 45921.93342172, 24 hour low: 28.90000, 24 hour high: 29.87000, 24 hour vwap: 29.38454
Feb 20 14:00:20 <error4733>	100 BTC bets today on S.dice, maybe a whale need some liquidity
Feb 20 14:01:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 20 14:01:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.77001, Best ask: 29.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 29.77001, 24 hour volume: 45905.60087843, 24 hour low: 28.90000, 24 hour high: 29.87000, 24 hour vwap: 29.38453
Feb 20 14:01:06 <error4733>	cmon whales, we need 10 more grand for feb
Feb 20 14:01:15 <ThickAsThieves>	mtgox.com says 30.47
Feb 20 14:01:28 <error4733>	go home Mt gox ur drunk
Feb 20 14:01:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 14:02:16 <dub>	I dont see 30.47
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Feb 20 14:04:13 <ThickAsThieves>	was in the last price bar up top
Feb 20 14:04:52 <ThickAsThieves>	gox probly controls info to manipulate prices
Feb 20 14:05:05 <ThickAsThieves>	clarmoody, goxlive, and gox always show different
Feb 20 14:05:10 <maximian>	the s.dice action is a bit of a surprise… SD is still doing well, and it looks like the whale might even be back. I guess someone got jittery
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Feb 20 14:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	maximian may be the unwind of some other trade or w/e
Feb 20 14:07:01 <dub>	the evoorhes dumping didnt help
Feb 20 14:07:08 <maximian>	yeah
Feb 20 14:08:16 <dub>	then theres the bot
Feb 20 14:09:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00063322 = 2.3113 BTC [-]
Feb 20 14:10:55 <error4733>	11am UTC 1`000`000 S.DICE @ 0.00639000BTC = 6`390.00000000BTC
Feb 20 14:11:25 <error4733>	still 1M to dump
Feb 20 14:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 497 @ 0.00063322 = 0.3147 BTC [-]
Feb 20 14:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063227 = 2.732 BTC [-]
Feb 20 14:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1182 @ 0.00063226 = 0.7473 BTC [-]
Feb 20 14:15:02 <maximian>	there's an s.dice trading bot?
Feb 20 14:15:31 <error4733>	!ticker m s;dice
Feb 20 14:15:32 <assbot>	Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
Feb 20 14:15:54 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 20 14:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0057 / 0.00635547 / 0.00674199 (1160842 shares, 7,377.70 BTC), 7D: 0.0057 / 0.00636577 / 0.0069 (1379443 shares, 8,781.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00592531 / 0.0075 (7773132 shares, 46,058.29 BTC)
Feb 20 14:17:11 <thestringpuller>	smickles is alive!
Feb 20 14:20:23 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 20 14:20:26 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222221 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1554 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 21 hours, 7 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4235211.74448 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.00105
Feb 20 14:20:36 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 20 14:20:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.66002, Best ask: 29.83460, Bid-ask spread: 0.17458, Last trade: 29.66000, 24 hour volume: 45760.85528050, 24 hour low: 28.90000, 24 hour high: 29.87000, 24 hour vwap: 29.38712
Feb 20 14:21:16 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C300T
Feb 20 14:21:18 <assbot>	Stupid fucking white man.
Feb 20 14:21:32 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C3000T
Feb 20 14:21:32 <assbot>	Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
Feb 20 14:21:54 <jurov>	we have $300 calls nao?
Feb 20 14:22:54 <deadweasel>	where did you find smickles?
Feb 20 14:25:40 <jurov>	he sent him an email.. and presumably got reply other than EOF
Feb 20 14:28:19 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C300T
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Feb 20 14:28:20 <assbot>	I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
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Feb 20 14:29:56 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C200T
Feb 20 14:29:57 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.21602472 / 0.21602472 / 0.21602472 (745 shares, 160.94 BTC), 30D: 0.05290351 / 0.07848145 / 0.22139121 (11732 shares, 920.74 BTC)
Feb 20 14:30:02 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C300T
Feb 20 14:30:03 <assbot>	I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
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Feb 20 14:30:10 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C290T
Feb 20 14:30:11 <assbot>	Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
Feb 20 14:30:20 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C280T
Feb 20 14:30:21 <assbot>	I thought I told you not to touch me.
Feb 20 14:31:30 <deadweasel>	;;slap assbot
Feb 20 14:31:31 *	gribble slaps assbot with a mushy veiled accusation
Feb 20 14:33:07 <jurov>	!ticker mPEX O.BTCUSD.C280T
Feb 20 14:33:08 <assbot>	Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
Feb 20 14:33:21 <jurov>	!ticker mpex O.BTCUSD.C280T
Feb 20 14:33:22 <assbot>	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Feb 20 14:33:33 <jurov>	!ticker mpex s.bbet
Feb 20 14:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00165 / 0.00193192 / 0.001965 (18005 shares, 34.78 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00132284 / 0.001965 (126272 shares, 167.04 BTC)
Feb 20 14:33:50 <jurov>	options are not supported i guess
Feb 20 14:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8062 @ 0.00063447 = 5.1151 BTC [+]
Feb 20 14:34:08 <jurov>	!ticker mpex O.BTCUSD.C200T
Feb 20 14:34:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.21602472 / 0.21602472 / 0.21602472 (745 shares, 160.94 BTC), 30D: 0.05290351 / 0.07848145 / 0.22139121 (11732 shares, 920.74 BTC)
Feb 20 14:34:39 <jurov>	ah assbot knows only about traded ones
Feb 20 14:35:52 <kakobrekla>	jurov must be in the api
Feb 20 14:35:56 <kakobrekla>	and it will be here
Feb 20 14:36:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00063447 = 5.2027 BTC [+]
Feb 20 14:44:39 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Feb 20 14:44:47 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin exchange is way more centralized than forex exchange
Feb 20 14:44:50 <kakobrekla>	i just realized that.
Feb 20 14:45:00 <thestringpuller>	how?
Feb 20 14:45:03 <kakobrekla>	funny for a decentralized currency
Feb 20 14:45:04 <pizzaman1337>	oh, for sure
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Feb 20 14:49:51 <B0g4r7_>	Something should be done about that.
Feb 20 14:50:07 <B0g4r7_>	Before it manifests a problem again.
Feb 20 14:50:16 <B0g4r7_>	Too big to fail == too big to exist
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Feb 20 14:55:45 <thestringpuller>	selling beer for btc!
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Feb 20 14:57:16 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 30
Feb 20 14:57:18 <gribble>	There are currently 9885.7821 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 296231.504653 USD in total.
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Feb 20 15:03:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 538 @ 0.00063447 = 0.3413 BTC [+]
Feb 20 15:03:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16918 @ 0.00063226 = 10.6966 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11944 @ 0.0006306 = 7.5319 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 15:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26229 @ 0.0006306 = 16.54 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:05:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00062991 = 11.1494 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10232 @ 0.00062974 = 6.4435 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13489 @ 0.0006281 = 8.4724 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 15:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1989 @ 0.0006373 = 1.2676 BTC [+]
Feb 20 15:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063809 = 2.7572 BTC [+]
Feb 20 15:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4290 @ 0.0006384 = 2.7387 BTC [+]
Feb 20 15:08:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063836 = 2.7584 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:08:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15668 @ 0.0006384 = 10.0025 BTC [+]
Feb 20 15:09:05 <ThickAsThieves>	satoshidice.com profit for the day = 1106
Feb 20 15:09:57 <maximian>	nice
Feb 20 15:10:28 <ThickAsThieves>	pace for the month is 14000
Feb 20 15:10:34 <maximian>	10090 BTC profit so far this month
Feb 20 15:10:58 <ThickAsThieves>	but a whale can bump that very quickly
Feb 20 15:11:09 <ThickAsThieves>	or drop it :)
Feb 20 15:11:21 <dub>	its quite disturbing how some people manage to stay employed
Feb 20 15:12:04 <Bowjob>	Whale whale whale!
Feb 20 15:13:00 <dub>	hr/finance type girl sends note at 3:30pm that due to system migration all time accounting/expenses must be forecast for the coming month and entered before 5pm
Feb 20 15:13:39 <maximian>	whale got a big mouthful of krill and is ready for action
Feb 20 15:15:01 <deadweasel>	dub that's fucking great!
Feb 20 15:15:08 <deadweasel>	an afternoon of planning!
Feb 20 15:15:24 <dub>	except this was yesterday and I had teh afternoon off
Feb 20 15:15:52 <dub>	that and I'm far too busy for this shit at the best of times
Feb 20 15:17:39 <dub>	and of course while we knew this migration was coming many months ago, we give 1.5 hours notice
Feb 20 15:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	jurov untraded ones aren't listed at all in the json
Feb 20 15:19:17 <dub>	in dubcorp heavy industries someone would be fired so quickly their skin would possibly remain in the office
Feb 20 15:19:21 <deadweasel>	dub, classic.
Feb 20 15:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	dub no, the other way around : fire just their clothes.
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Feb 20 15:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062868 = 2.7165 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:23:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7764 @ 0.00062861 = 4.8805 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:29:10 <deadweasel>	At DeadCorp you would be fired....  out of a cannon, into the Sun.
Feb 20 15:29:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062889 = 2.7174 BTC [+]
Feb 20 15:30:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12236 @ 0.00062861 = 7.6917 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4147 @ 0.0006281 = 2.6047 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 15:37:49 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 20 15:37:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.78000, Best ask: 29.86999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 29.87000, 24 hour volume: 43817.96776925, 24 hour low: 28.90000, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.39686
Feb 20 15:38:30 <Bowjob>	Lol
Feb 20 15:38:30 <Bowjob>	BTC-e is having their own civil war.. NVC vs LTC
Feb 20 15:38:48 <kakobrekla>	ltc as lol the coin
Feb 20 15:39:23 <kakobrekla>	and nvc as NeVermind coin
Feb 20 15:39:33 <kakobrekla>	fight!
Feb 20 15:39:44 <Bowjob>	:3
Feb 20 15:39:45 <Bowjob>	I joined in I told them buy Solid coins
Feb 20 15:39:51 <kakobrekla>	good
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Feb 20 15:40:35 <Bowjob_>	mhm I got dc ??
Feb 20 15:41:48 <FabianB_>	what's nvc?
Feb 20 15:42:09 <Bowjob_>	another alt
Feb 20 15:42:12 <Bowjob_>	with pre mine
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Feb 20 15:45:27 <dub>	nvc?
Feb 20 15:45:41 <dub>	oh nm
Feb 20 15:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4264 @ 0.0006281 = 2.6782 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:46:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2098 @ 0.000628 = 1.3175 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11488 @ 0.00062799 = 7.2143 BTC [-]
Feb 20 15:47:18 <dub>	hmm wonder if my peepeecoins are worth anything yet
Feb 20 15:49:05 <jcpham>	nope
Feb 20 15:49:35 <coingenuity>	topace: aren't you the guy i've been continually calling/emailing with over the last week to get your package cleared?
Feb 20 15:49:59 <jcpham>	send it to me instead coingenuity
Feb 20 15:50:03 <jcpham>	he doesn't want it
Feb 20 15:50:06 <coingenuity>	(your invoice is in proper customs format, with correct descriptions, but your local customs office is being a pain - not our fault, and we've been working with them to clear your package)
Feb 20 15:50:16 <coingenuity>	so saying "no proper description" is not very accurate at all
Feb 20 15:51:01 <coingenuity>	jcpham: i'm kind of sick of the shitty attitude people have, it's really starting to bother me
Feb 20 15:51:16 <coingenuity>	anyway, AFK for another 20 hour work day- your package went out this AM jcpham
Feb 20 15:51:19 <jcpham>	dawwww hugs for coingenuity
Feb 20 15:51:29 <jcpham>	ty!
Feb 20 15:51:51 <coingenuity>	well, frankly, over the last week people have been goddamn obnoxious and it's driving me rather nuts
Feb 20 15:52:02 <coingenuity>	"this is why we can't have nice things"
Feb 20 15:52:25 <coingenuity>	anyway, you're welcome, my pleasure - you're a lovely client and an awesome dude
Feb 20 15:56:45 <dub>	jcpham is all about having his package handled by coingenuity
Feb 20 15:57:02 <jcpham>	fra-gee-lay
Feb 20 15:57:08 <coingenuity>	dub: i handle packages like a pro
Feb 20 15:57:10 <coingenuity>	:D
Feb 20 15:57:32 <coingenuity>	true story, i can handle 20 packages in less than an hour lololol
Feb 20 15:58:27 <deadweasel>	coingenuity: why haven't I gotten a confirmation for my purchase yesterday?
Feb 20 15:58:34 <deadweasel>	WHy haven't you responded to support emails?
Feb 20 15:58:47 <deadweasel>	Or twitter, or bitcointalk.org?
Feb 20 15:59:04 <topace>	coingenuity: no thtas my roommate :p
Feb 20 15:59:32 <deadweasel>	you run a business, if you can't run it right, expect to be driven nuts
Feb 20 15:59:39 <coingenuity>	deadweasel: you were pinging us in the middle of the night, send my support staff an email
Feb 20 15:59:47 <deadweasel>	I did.
Feb 20 15:59:52 <coingenuity>	contact@coinabul.com << emailed us directly?
Feb 20 16:00:16 <deadweasel>	yes
Feb 20 16:00:35 <coingenuity>	anyway, for your confirmation email- sometimes our confirmation emails get black-holed by spam filters(quite common)
Feb 20 16:00:38 <coingenuity>	what's your order number?
Feb 20 16:00:45 <deadweasel>	200000443
Feb 20 16:00:47 <topace>	coingenuity: i was only relaying what the customs office told my roommate.. that the description wasnt sufficient.
Feb 20 16:00:54 <thestringpuller>	coingenuity: what business?
Feb 20 16:01:07 <topace>	stupid customs
Feb 20 16:01:16 <coingenuity>	5 pamp 50gr bars, confirmed... going out in the next batch of shipping on Thursday
Feb 20 16:01:42 <deadweasel>	right, coingenuity, you should have an email sent for confirmation of purchase and then when you know shipping date.
Feb 20 16:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063705 = 2.7527 BTC [+]
Feb 20 16:01:45 <coingenuity>	it looks as if that order is a day or two old, but it's going out Thursday :P
Feb 20 16:01:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20979 @ 0.0006373 = 13.3699 BTC [+]
Feb 20 16:01:55 <deadweasel>	there is far too much money at stake ot not let customer know what hte status is
Feb 20 16:02:03 <coingenuity>	deadweasel: we send out emails for each status change, but they get black holed by spam filters
Feb 20 16:02:13 <coingenuity>	depending on the recipient email provider
Feb 20 16:02:15 <deadweasel>	Well, fix your sys admin
Feb 20 16:02:20 <deadweasel>	gmail>?
Feb 20 16:02:32 <coingenuity>	yeah, gmail is our biggest email-delivery headache
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Feb 20 16:02:49 <deadweasel>	then find another way to send, don't use a blacklisted server
Feb 20 16:03:10 <coingenuity>	topace: that's not correct, it's your local customs office being a pain, unfortunately- either way, we're working with them quite closely to force the package through without VAT taxes
Feb 20 16:03:38 <coingenuity>	topace: we mark very clearly VAT EXEMPT INVESTMENT on our invoices but the local customs office to you finds that insufficient for VAT exemption
Feb 20 16:04:01 <coingenuity>	so i'm giving them more detail to ensure they don't charge import tax...
Feb 20 16:04:14 <deadweasel>	also, nothing in my spam filter.
Feb 20 16:04:22 <deadweasel>	but thanks for checking on my order.
Feb 20 16:04:35 <coingenuity>	deadweasel: i believe it's a combination of "gold" and "purchase" which causes us to get blacklisted by various providers... i've been working on it for quite a while, actually
Feb 20 16:04:51 <coingenuity>	something about my order emails causes spam filters to absolutely panic
Feb 20 16:05:04 <coingenuity>	and, np
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Feb 20 16:06:08 <topace>	coingenuity: cool thanks, ill let my roommate know too, though im sure you've alreayd been talking to him.. he said he emailed and phoned you a few times
Feb 20 16:06:57 <coingenuity>	topace: yeah, i'm the one he talked to on the phone... been working extensively to clear his package through customs with no tax
Feb 20 16:07:00 <coingenuity>	anyway, i'm off to start my work-day, unless yall need anything else?
Feb 20 16:07:28 <deadweasel>	No, thank you
Feb 20 16:07:41 <deadweasel>	sincerely
Feb 20 16:07:49 <coingenuity>	np bud
Feb 20 16:07:55 <coingenuity>	btw, just so i know
Feb 20 16:08:02 <coingenuity>	when did you send an email to contact@coinabul.com ?
Feb 20 16:08:21 <coingenuity>	i am guessing it was just a couple hours ago, right?
Feb 20 16:08:23 <deadweasel>	5 hours ago..  7 hours ago to jon@coinabul.com from the btctalk thread
Feb 20 16:08:47 <deadweasel>	if I had a confirmation email I wouldn't have wigged out
Feb 20 16:08:52 <coingenuity>	ah, yeah, no wonder you didnt hear anything back - that's like 4AM our time
Feb 20 16:08:54 <deadweasel>	too much$$ not to wig when using BTC
Feb 20 16:09:22 <deadweasel>	get an AUTORESPONDER, that says we got your message, it is XXAM our time, will get back to you shortly, here isyour ticket number.
Feb 20 16:09:28 <deadweasel>	there are open source solutions
Feb 20 16:09:31 <deadweasel>	easy to setup
Feb 20 16:09:42 <deadweasel>	makes your customers happy
Feb 20 16:09:45 <deadweasel>	placebos are great
Feb 20 16:09:46 <deadweasel>	use them
Feb 20 16:09:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062807 = 2.7139 BTC [-]
Feb 20 16:09:49 <deadweasel>	thanks again
Feb 20 16:09:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9849 @ 0.00062799 = 6.1851 BTC [-]
Feb 20 16:09:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4834 @ 0.00062798 = 3.0357 BTC [-]
Feb 20 16:10:06 <coingenuity>	np, have a good one
Feb 20 16:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062886 = 2.7173 BTC [+]
Feb 20 16:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00062915 = 2.4405 BTC [+]
Feb 20 16:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	<Bowjob> BTC-e is having their own civil war.. NVC vs LTC <<< drama. backs titcoins!
Feb 20 16:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062815 = 2.7142 BTC [-]
Feb 20 16:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20929 @ 0.00062798 = 13.143 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 16:24:59 <FabianB_>	jurov: are you facilitating mpex deposits < 10 btc?
Feb 20 16:25:15 <jurov>	yes, can be
Feb 20 16:26:27 <jurov>	but the fee is 0.1btc (if done outside coinbr)
Feb 20 16:27:45 <FabianB_>	ok
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Feb 20 16:29:48 <jurov>	well, do you want to? or later?
Feb 20 16:31:18 <FabianB_>	jurov: later maybe, will contact you if; my 0.8 bitcoin client still indexing a while :)
Feb 20 16:35:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062914 = 2.7185 BTC [+]
Feb 20 16:35:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10671 @ 0.00062915 = 6.7137 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 16:40:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 20 16:40:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.60004, Best ask: 29.80897, Bid-ask spread: 0.20893, Last trade: 29.80897, 24 hour volume: 41976.69324376, 24 hour low: 28.90000, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.42177
Feb 20 16:40:31 <topace>	!ticker m sdice
Feb 20 16:40:32 <assbot>	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Feb 20 16:40:38 <topace>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 20 16:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0057 / 0.0063548 / 0.00673999 (1158842 shares, 7,364.22 BTC), 7D: 0.0057 / 0.00636577 / 0.0069 (1379443 shares, 8,781.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00592531 / 0.0075 (7773132 shares, 46,058.29 BTC)
Feb 20 16:40:56 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 20 16:40:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.66000000 / 0.67348406 / 0.74399999 (438 shares, 294.98601767 BTC), 7D: 0.66000000 / 0.70456134 / 0.75900000 (1412 shares, 994.84061851 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.65995542 / 0.89000000 (11423 shares, 7538.67078313 BTC)
Feb 20 16:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062803 = 2.7137 BTC [-]
Feb 20 16:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20779 @ 0.00062798 = 13.0488 BTC [-]
Feb 20 16:46:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7471 @ 0.00062798 = 4.6916 BTC [-]
Feb 20 16:46:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29 @ 0.00062768 = 0.0182 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 16:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006288 = 2.717 BTC [+]
Feb 20 16:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062915 = 4.4355 BTC [+]
Feb 20 16:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6623 @ 0.0006373 = 4.2208 BTC [+]
Feb 20 16:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2456 @ 0.0006384 = 1.5679 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1336 @ 0.0006384 = 0.8529 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:00:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006387 = 2.7598 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:00:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16843 @ 0.00063871 = 10.7578 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 17:09:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.718 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 17:14:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.00065 = 0.0039 BTC [-]
Feb 20 17:14:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4736 @ 0.00062768 = 2.9727 BTC [-]
Feb 20 17:14:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2414 @ 0.00062761 = 1.5151 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 17:21:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063223 = 2.7319 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1497 @ 0.00063255 = 0.9469 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:22:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1907 @ 0.00062761 = 1.1969 BTC [-]
Feb 20 17:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1402 @ 0.0006276 = 0.8799 BTC [-]
Feb 20 17:24:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006278 = 2.7127 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:24:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062768 = 2.7122 BTC [-]
Feb 20 17:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9116 @ 0.0006276 = 5.7212 BTC [-]
Feb 20 17:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10242 @ 0.00062686 = 6.4203 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 17:26:32 <deadweasel>	allo?
Feb 20 17:26:40 <deadweasel>	;;slap gribble
Feb 20 17:26:41 *	gribble slaps gribble with a aphroditous mountain lion
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Feb 20 17:31:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063227 = 2.732 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:31:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9705 @ 0.00063255 = 6.1389 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 17:34:56 <jurov>	interesting why mpoe buys options for 0.32184551 that can be exercised for 0.32088285 (C200T)
Feb 20 17:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00063255 = 1.8211 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006387 = 2.7598 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:35:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11727 @ 0.00063871 = 7.4902 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:35:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9873 @ 0.00063938 = 6.3126 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:35:52 <jurov>	almost exactly 1% difference
Feb 20 17:37:24 <jurov>	C250T the same...1.003%
Feb 20 17:37:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1 @ 0.32184551 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:38:15 <jurov>	dunno. so today i sell instead of exercising
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Feb 20 17:40:52 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Feb 20 17:40:55 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222256 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1519 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 0 hours, 53 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4328515.3873 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.5566
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Feb 20 17:42:07 <jurov>	;;calc 0.08-0.03651011
Feb 20 17:42:07 <gribble>	0.04348989
Feb 20 17:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00063933 = 0.3197 BTC [-]
Feb 20 17:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3821 @ 0.00063933 = 2.4429 BTC [-]
Feb 20 17:46:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00063938 = 4.1425 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00570001 = 5.7 BTC [+]
Feb 20 17:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3574 @ 0.0057 = 20.3718 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 17:57:29 <Bowjob_>	;;ticker
Feb 20 17:57:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.65101, Best ask: 29.70940, Bid-ask spread: 0.05839, Last trade: 29.70940, 24 hour volume: 38746.04227983, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.46022
Feb 20 17:57:36 <Bowjob_>	35 more cents come on
Feb 20 18:00:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00063686 = 7.9926 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 18:04:57 <Namworld>	I further reduced the price on SatoshiDice shares on BTCT.co
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Feb 20 18:09:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006331 = 2.7356 BTC [-]
Feb 20 18:09:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37179 @ 0.00063278 = 23.5261 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 18:27:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006335 = 2.7374 BTC [+]
Feb 20 18:27:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15379 @ 0.00063354 = 9.7432 BTC [+]
Feb 20 18:33:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063282 = 2.7344 BTC [-]
Feb 20 18:33:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10429 @ 0.00063278 = 6.5993 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 18:35:26 <maximian>	s.dice income goes up, share price goes down - you can't explain that
Feb 20 18:35:37 <deadweasel>	nope
Feb 20 18:36:59 <Namworld>	eh. Still had to reduce price on my passthrough
Feb 20 18:37:35 <jurov>	people cashing out of btc instead of buying the shares
Feb 20 18:38:14 <jurov>	lol, just today i sold 10btc to someone who wanted to buy asicminer
Feb 20 18:40:07 <jurov>	hm... unless ukto appears, it looks i'll have to postpone CoinBr.iDiff-E liquidation
Feb 20 18:41:52 <jurov>	while i can pay it out, someone can sell it subsequently and cash out twice - what would be unfair to buyer
Feb 20 18:43:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2548 @ 0.00063278 = 1.6123 BTC [-]
Feb 20 18:43:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063147 = 2.7286 BTC [-]
Feb 20 18:43:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00063146 = 2.589 BTC [-]
Feb 20 18:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19931 @ 0.0006285 = 12.5266 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 18:47:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063347 = 2.7372 BTC [+]
Feb 20 18:47:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8921 @ 0.00063354 = 5.6518 BTC [+]
Feb 20 18:47:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4658 @ 0.00063686 = 2.9665 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 18:49:21 <mjr_>	hi all
Feb 20 18:49:21 <Bowjob>	Ps4 being announced!
Feb 20 18:49:29 <mjr_>	nice
Feb 20 18:49:35 <mjr_>	did i miss any major news?
Feb 20 18:53:55 <truffles>	yes
Feb 20 18:54:24 <mjr_>	what's the news?
Feb 20 18:55:39 <truffles>	bitcoins are expensive
Feb 20 18:56:02 <mjr_>	yes i heard
Feb 20 18:56:20 <mjr_>	suprised i haven't seen $30 yet, but that is expected
Feb 20 18:56:29 <mjr_>	any S.DICE news?
Feb 20 18:56:30 <truffles>	it was there
Feb 20 18:56:47 <truffles>	i learned that s.dice spams the blockchain?
Feb 20 18:56:51 <mjr_>	showing the high as 29.87035
Feb 20 18:57:03 <truffles>	i saw 30 at some point
Feb 20 18:57:18 <mjr_>	from mt. gox or a smaller exchange
Feb 20 18:57:30 <mjr_>	hold on i'm gonna check the vwap
Feb 20 18:57:33 <truffles>	from tickers
Feb 20 18:57:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0079 BTC [+]
Feb 20 18:57:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.00733 = 0.0147 BTC [-]
Feb 20 18:57:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.00732 = 0.0146 BTC [-]
Feb 20 18:57:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 27 @ 0.00731 = 0.1974 BTC [-]
Feb 20 18:57:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.00731 = 0.0731 BTC [-]
Feb 20 18:57:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.00502 = 0.0402 BTC [-]
Feb 20 18:58:10 <mjr_>	jurov around?
Feb 20 18:58:16 <jurov>	yes
Feb 20 18:58:24 <mjr_>	how are you?
Feb 20 18:58:36 <jurov>	sleepy
Feb 20 18:59:02 <mjr_>	lol, just moved more btc in, if you have a chance, have some orders to place
Feb 20 18:59:32 <mjr_>	also, when i exercise option tomorrow or friday
Feb 20 18:59:43 <mjr_>	do i lock in the price of my exercise?
Feb 20 18:59:53 <mjr_>	or is that subject to the exercise being sent to mpex
Feb 20 19:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063247 = 2.7329 BTC [-]
Feb 20 19:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4745 @ 0.00063229 = 3.0002 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 19:02:36 <jurov>	the exercise is sent to mpex immediately
Feb 20 19:02:54 <jurov>	and you'll receive btc based on current vwap
Feb 20 19:03:06 <jurov>	business done.
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Feb 20 19:05:03 <jurov>	fortunately mpex includes all pertinent information in exercise reply so it could be done automatically easily
Feb 20 19:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14555 @ 0.00063229 = 9.203 BTC [-]
Feb 20 19:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3578 @ 0.0006285 = 2.2488 BTC [-]
Feb 20 19:05:36 <mjr_>	thanks jurov
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Feb 20 19:05:40 <mjr_>	that is awesome
Feb 20 19:05:49 <mjr_>	i have to say your brokerage is so nice to use
Feb 20 19:07:20 <jurov>	glad to hear
Feb 20 19:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00562961 = 4.5037 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 19:12:50 <jurov>	it has to be, i'm eating own dogfood
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Feb 20 19:15:23 <jurov>	anyway, why nobody sets tx fees? at least something like 0.00001
Feb 20 19:15:43 <jurov>	then they come and demand deposit to be processed
Feb 20 19:24:11 <deadweasel>	i agree jurov, i think the problem is not being provided advanced settings when making TXNs
Feb 20 19:24:16 <deadweasel>	in most wallets
Feb 20 19:24:24 <deadweasel>	it's a preference, not a per txn setting
Feb 20 19:24:42 <deadweasel>	and that is a pain to change, so rather than spend 30 seconds changing, they wait 10 minutes for first inclusion, or longer
Feb 20 19:27:53 <jurov>	okay, accepted all, confirmed or unconfirmed
Feb 20 19:28:19 <jurov>	if anyone asks about CoinBr.iDiff-E , send them after ukto
Feb 20 19:28:26 <jurov>	i'm off
Feb 20 19:28:29 <jurov>	cya
Feb 20 19:28:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.006 = 6 BTC [-]
Feb 20 19:29:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00602 = 0.012 BTC [-]
Feb 20 19:29:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1048 @ 0.006 = 6.288 BTC [-]
Feb 20 19:32:13 <deadweasel>	usagi
Feb 20 19:32:55 <mjr_>	sorry jurov
Feb 20 19:33:05 <mjr_>	yeah, i am transferring from exchange, so i can't set TX fees
Feb 20 19:33:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00623 = 0.0374 BTC [+]
Feb 20 19:34:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00608 = 4.864 BTC [+]
Feb 20 19:34:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00609 = 3.045 BTC [+]
Feb 20 19:52:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00063367 = 1.7743 BTC [+]
Feb 20 19:52:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063656 = 2.7506 BTC [+]
Feb 20 19:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.0006367 = 8.8183 BTC [+]
Feb 20 19:52:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 976 @ 0.00063686 = 0.6216 BTC [+]
Feb 20 19:59:26 <usagi>	hi deadweasel
Feb 20 19:59:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00063665 = 1.1778 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 20:05:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 991 @ 0.0006285 = 0.6228 BTC [-]
Feb 20 20:05:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062718 = 2.71 BTC [-]
Feb 20 20:05:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062687 = 0.6269 BTC [-]
Feb 20 20:05:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8655 @ 0.00062686 = 5.4255 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 20:09:27 <Bowjob>	PS4 Stream over
Feb 20 20:09:33 <Bowjob>	no kojima, no price announcement
Feb 20 20:09:34 <Bowjob>	fail
Feb 20 20:09:47 <OneFixt>	looking to buy XRP
Feb 20 20:10:09 <jcpham>	nanotube has set the market
Feb 20 20:10:12 <jcpham>	1:1
Feb 20 20:10:15 <OneFixt>	lol
Feb 20 20:10:16 <jcpham>	demurrage my ass
Feb 20 20:10:50 <nanotube>	hehe
Feb 20 20:11:20 <jcpham>	freicoin is where it's at
Feb 20 20:11:30 <jcpham>	currently i am the miner
Feb 20 20:12:00 <jcpham>	ripple is last week
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Feb 20 20:12:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2471 @ 0.00063665 = 1.5732 BTC [+]
Feb 20 20:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9330 @ 0.00063686 = 5.9419 BTC [+]
Feb 20 20:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5368 @ 0.00063938 = 3.4322 BTC [+]
Feb 20 20:12:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12399 @ 0.00063957 = 7.93 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 20:19:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063935 = 2.7626 BTC [-]
Feb 20 20:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9951 @ 0.00063957 = 6.3644 BTC [+]
Feb 20 20:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10359 @ 0.0006406 = 6.636 BTC [+]
Feb 20 20:20:54 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 20 20:20:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.71704, Best ask: 29.78000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06296, Last trade: 29.71704, 24 hour volume: 35931.59973145, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.48437
Feb 20 20:25:59 <Bowjob>	30 more cents. come on buy it
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Feb 20 20:34:25 <deadweasel>	.01 bot is working hard to push down the price.  weird
Feb 20 20:34:31 <deadweasel>	manipulators must be buying
Feb 20 20:34:35 <deadweasel>	for next pump and dump
Feb 20 20:34:52 <deadweasel>	who the hell buys .01 btc anyway?
Feb 20 20:35:07 <deadweasel>	bots, i think.
Feb 20 20:35:09 <deadweasel>	anybody else?
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Feb 20 20:40:59 <Namworld>	interesting
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Feb 20 20:42:53 <Bowjob>	No, its actually pump and dont dump
Feb 20 20:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000627 = 2.7093 BTC [-]
Feb 20 20:45:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7603 @ 0.00062686 = 4.766 BTC [-]
Feb 20 20:45:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3645 @ 0.00062556 = 2.2802 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 20:45:30 <thestringpuller>	deadweasel: not everyone uses FOK
Feb 20 20:45:42 <thestringpuller>	some people incremental fill the order
Feb 20 20:45:42 <deadweasel>	FOK?
Feb 20 20:45:45 <thestringpuller>	fill or kill
Feb 20 20:46:01 <thestringpuller>	either fill the order in it's entirety or kill it after a certain time
Feb 20 20:46:20 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 20 20:46:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.62201, Best ask: 29.72209, Bid-ask spread: 0.10008, Last trade: 29.72209, 24 hour volume: 35966.27130235, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.48641
Feb 20 20:47:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 20 20:47:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC)
Feb 20 20:47:34 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 20 20:47:37 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222274 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1501 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 0 hours, 38 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4297470.16991 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.70629
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Feb 20 20:54:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006256 = 2.7032 BTC [+]
Feb 20 20:54:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15579 @ 0.00062556 = 9.7456 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 21:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 20 21:07:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.60002, Best ask: 29.67849, Bid-ask spread: 0.07847, Last trade: 29.67849, 24 hour volume: 34177.53570017, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.48634
Feb 20 21:08:02 <mjr_>	hey guys...
Feb 20 21:08:12 <mjr_>	i was a little unclear on how the cash settlement works on options
Feb 20 21:08:49 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu if you have a minute can you go through this example with me?
Feb 20 21:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	sure
Feb 20 21:09:21 <mjr_>	ok
Feb 20 21:09:28 <mjr_>	i bought this months $17 call
Feb 20 21:09:41 <mjr_>	it cost me 0.33832578
Feb 20 21:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	okay
Feb 20 21:10:10 <mjr_>	depending on how you value the premium i paid (i use my average cost of bitcoins) that puts my breakeven point around $25
Feb 20 21:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	alright.
Feb 20 21:10:28 <mjr_>	since the vwap is currently around $29
Feb 20 21:10:36 <mjr_>	I am right about $4 in the money
Feb 20 21:10:41 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Feb 20 21:10:54 <mjr_>	ok, so when it settles though, I will be settled in bitcoins
Feb 20 21:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	yea.
Feb 20 21:11:10 <mjr_>	so do i get $4/$29
Feb 20 21:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Feb 20 21:11:17 <mjr_>	worth of bitcoins?
Feb 20 21:11:34 <mjr_>	this is the part i got confused on
Feb 20 21:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	you get (29 - 17) / 29 = 0.413793103 btc
Feb 20 21:12:06 <mjr_>	aha ok thanks so much
Feb 20 21:12:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062834 = 2.7151 BTC [+]
Feb 20 21:12:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17999 @ 0.0006285 = 11.3124 BTC [+]
Feb 20 21:12:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12241 @ 0.0006406 = 7.8416 BTC [+]
Feb 20 21:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	that's like 30%ish in btc, or whatever in usd
Feb 20 21:12:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10379 @ 0.00064077 = 6.6506 BTC [+]
Feb 20 21:12:18 <mjr_>	so you use the vwap
Feb 20 21:12:23 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 20 21:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	( strike minus vwap) / vwap.
Feb 20 21:12:44 <mjr_>	so in that example, i will get approximately .41 btc...
Feb 20 21:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 20 21:12:51 <mjr_>	i paid approx .33 btc
Feb 20 21:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 20 21:13:23 <mjr_>	so my real return upon exercising my option would be (value-cost)/cost right?
Feb 20 21:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	well, in btc you paid .33 you got back 41, so .08 net profit.
Feb 20 21:14:02 <mjr_>	so "return" would be .08/.33
Feb 20 21:14:09 <mjr_>	or roughly 25%
Feb 20 21:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	in usd whatever, .41 *29 - .33 * 17 or what's the case
Feb 20 21:14:29 <mjr_>	ah ok i see
Feb 20 21:14:35 <mjr_>	that is cool
Feb 20 21:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	basically you turned 6 bux into 12
Feb 20 21:15:15 <mjr_>	at the end of the day, i would get the (vwap-strike)/vwap bitcoins
Feb 20 21:15:20 <mjr_>	NICE
Feb 20 21:15:31 <mjr_>	and the worth of those bitcoins is up to my valuation
Feb 20 21:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	more than that lets see
Feb 20 21:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	(11.89 - 5.61)/5.61
Feb 20 21:15:52 <mjr_>	my avg cost of bitcoins for february was $25 now
Feb 20 21:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (11.89 - 5.61)/5.61
Feb 20 21:15:58 <gribble>	1.11942959002
Feb 20 21:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	whereas the exchange only went
Feb 20 21:16:14 <mjr_>	111%????
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Feb 20 21:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 12/17
Feb 20 21:16:19 <gribble>	0.705882352941
Feb 20 21:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	yeah so about double speed or w/e
Feb 20 21:16:31 <mjr_>	that is awesome
Feb 20 21:16:44 <mjr_>	it is funny
Feb 20 21:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	it's what options do. if you have the right trend they accelerate it
Feb 20 21:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	if you don't you lose whatever
Feb 20 21:17:01 <mjr_>	i only got the 17 call only cuz it had the lowest break even
Feb 20 21:17:16 <mjr_>	the 19 was not priced in line with the 17
Feb 20 21:17:26 <mjr_>	so i paid more premium but got much lower breakeven point
Feb 20 21:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, you know, it's not linear
Feb 20 21:17:43 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 20 21:17:54 <mjr_>	i mean, for an option chain on a very thick stock
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Feb 20 21:18:01 <mjr_>	like bank of america or something
Feb 20 21:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	heinz
Feb 20 21:18:13 <mjr_>	every strike plus premium will usually equal the same
Feb 20 21:18:24 <BitHub>	mircea you're alive :)
Feb 20 21:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	only because they expect linear price evolutions
Feb 20 21:18:31 <mjr_>	yes
Feb 20 21:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub was there any question ?!
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Feb 20 21:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ well i don't think the mpoe bot expected linear btc in the past year.
Feb 20 21:18:51 <mjr_>	its cool that you can find good value though
Feb 20 21:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006329 = 2.7348 BTC [-]
Feb 20 21:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8522 @ 0.00063295 = 5.394 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 21:26:13 <BitHub>	lol yes mircea i heard you got kidnapped
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Feb 20 21:34:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00597 = 0.0597 BTC [-]
Feb 20 21:35:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 165 @ 0.00595 = 0.9818 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 21:41:22 <mircea_popescu>	i c.
Feb 20 21:41:28 <Namworld>	Why is S.DICE so low anyway? eh
Feb 20 21:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	ppl are selling it to buy asics
Feb 20 21:42:12 <Namworld>	I guess
Feb 20 21:43:43 <BitHub>	can you buy asicminer on a exchange yet or still hush hush?
Feb 20 21:45:32 <mjr_>	yeah, i am trying to scoop up as much as i can now while it's low
Feb 20 21:46:06 <BitHub>	what?! where
Feb 20 21:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00063295 = 3.323 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 21:52:13 <jcpham>	http://vincesamios.com/bitcoins/valuations-of-stocks-in-bitcoin-brain-melt
Feb 20 21:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00063043 = 4.2869 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 21:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	"The valuation of said company, can in theory exceed the total number of bitcoins. brain melt"
Feb 20 22:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	the things people pick to get hang up on seriously.
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Feb 20 22:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham a, actually he makes sense in the end.
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Feb 20 22:04:43 <Bowjob>	bitcoin talk is down
Feb 20 22:04:43 <Bowjob>	?
Feb 20 22:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	practically twice a day.
Feb 20 22:08:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 62 @ 0.0081 = 0.5022 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:08:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00784 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:08:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.003 = 0.006 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 22:09:40 <Bowjob>	why does 29.70 feels like its low
Feb 20 22:09:42 <Bowjob>	for bitcoin
Feb 20 22:09:44 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 20 22:10:23 <Bowjob>	" The Bitcoin Forum is moving to a new server. Hold tight."
Feb 20 22:10:25 <truffles>	19 too high
Feb 20 22:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062583 = 2.7042 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8329 @ 0.00062556 = 5.2103 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:11:13 <kakobrekla>	these beans are shit.
Feb 20 22:11:33 <truffles>	shit beans, thats a new one
Feb 20 22:12:06 <Bowjob>	is a knife incoming?
Feb 20 22:15:46 <truffles>	knife for my pizza hmmm
Feb 20 22:16:29 <usagi>	TU.SILVER is now the largest precious metals fund in the community, with more than twenty times the liquidity of all other metals funds combined.
Feb 20 22:18:06 <usagi>	And my accountant is now a week late on the financial report I need before I can pay dividends :0)
Feb 20 22:18:13 <mircea_popescu>	no wai, btctalk moving off shared hosting ?!
Feb 20 22:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	i call shenanigans.
Feb 20 22:18:41 <usagi>	theymos making a run for the border :)
Feb 20 22:19:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C220T
Feb 20 22:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C220T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.20577298 / 0.20577298 / 0.20577298 (3 shares, 0.62 BTC), 30D: 0.18744462 / 0.1966088 / 0.20577298 (6 shares, 1.18 BTC)
Feb 20 22:19:59 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is the bot not quoting anymore?
Feb 20 22:20:11 <thestringpuller>	since friday is < 48 hours
Feb 20 22:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	24 is the cutoff not 48
Feb 20 22:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	there's minute-ish gaps if the orders it has in expire before it can put new ones in
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Feb 20 22:21:14 <mircea_popescu>	anyways, im off. cya all tomorrow.
Feb 20 22:21:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062824 = 2.7146 BTC [+]
Feb 20 22:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7529 @ 0.00062846 = 4.7317 BTC [+]
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Feb 20 22:29:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062552 = 2.7029 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:29:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062551 = 3.1276 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:29:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2488 @ 0.00062521 = 1.5555 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062555 = 2.703 BTC [+]
Feb 20 22:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22629 @ 0.00062521 = 14.1479 BTC [-]
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Feb 20 22:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49 @ 0.00062521 = 0.0306 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062484 = 2.6999 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4382 @ 0.00062483 = 2.738 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:44:08 <kakobrekla>	kinda majorish news http://bit4x.com/news.html
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Feb 20 22:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7268 @ 0.00062483 = 4.5413 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3490 @ 0.00062433 = 2.1789 BTC [-]
Feb 20 22:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00062816 = 1.6332 BTC [+]
Feb 20 22:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1721 @ 0.00062816 = 1.0811 BTC [+]
Feb 20 22:52:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6129 @ 0.00062846 = 3.8518 BTC [+]
Feb 20 23:06:09 <Bowjob>	"Last price:$30.52199"
Feb 20 23:06:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 20 23:06:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.67001, Best ask: 29.78499, Bid-ask spread: 0.11498, Last trade: 29.66000, 24 hour volume: 32070.29949601, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.51291
Feb 20 23:06:16 <Bowjob>	what a troll
Feb 20 23:06:47 <Namworld>	MtGox ticker?
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Feb 20 23:07:28 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 20 23:07:32 <Bowjob>	it showed 30.52
Feb 20 23:09:01 <Namworld>	yeah, it does that sometimes
Feb 20 23:09:20 <Bowjob>	whats that from though?
Feb 20 23:09:26 <Bowjob>	Is that the future? :3
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Feb 20 23:09:33 <kakobrekla>	trades in other currency
Feb 20 23:09:38 <kakobrekla>	converted over
Feb 20 23:09:39 <kakobrekla>	to usd
Feb 20 23:09:55 <kakobrekla>	they take a fee so it comes out higher
Feb 20 23:10:06 <kakobrekla>	conversion fee
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Feb 20 23:11:02 <Bowjob>	i feel for those poor people who paid BFL with bitcoins when hey were 6 dollars ea
Feb 20 23:11:04 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 20 23:11:27 <Bowjob>	I bought and Avalon, but I re bought the coins with fiat to preserve my position
Feb 20 23:11:35 <Bowjob>	id be pissed if I didn't lol
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Feb 20 23:12:35 <swhitt>	Bowjob: that's just a mental thing
Feb 20 23:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00062681 = 2.0058 BTC [-]
Feb 20 23:14:41 <Namworld>	Looks like a bug
Feb 20 23:15:50 <Bowjob>	apparently BFL exists
Feb 20 23:15:50 <Bowjob>	http://mineforeman.com/2013/02/20/kanoi-from-the-cgminer-crew-posts-photos-of-his-butterfly-labs-visit/
Feb 20 23:20:54 <Bowjob>	Guys
Feb 20 23:20:55 <Bowjob>	http://mineforeman.com/2013/02/20/kanoi-from-the-cgminer-crew-posts-photos-of-his-butterfly-labs-visit/
Feb 20 23:20:58 <Bowjob>	Oops
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Feb 20 23:32:56 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/aMXYg8l.png
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Feb 20 23:33:02 <Bowjob>	accoding to josh
Feb 20 23:43:27 <Namworld>	nice
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Feb 20 23:48:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1121 @ 0.00062681 = 0.7027 BTC [-]
Feb 20 23:48:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00062707 = 16.3665 BTC [+]
Feb 20 23:48:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 529 @ 0.00062846 = 0.3325 BTC [+]
Feb 20 23:56:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 480 @ 0.00619 = 2.9712 BTC [+]
Feb 20 23:58:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 230 @ 0.00434 = 0.9982 BTC [-]
Feb 20 23:59:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1500 @ 0.00065 = 0.975 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:01:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00249 BTC [+]
Feb 21 00:02:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 313 @ 0.00639 = 2.0001 BTC [+]
Feb 21 00:06:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.0902 = 0.902 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:06:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4660 @ 0.00062433 = 2.9094 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062412 = 2.6968 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:06:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9990 @ 0.00062411 = 6.2349 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:06:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4315 @ 0.00062404 = 2.6927 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:06:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00062362 = 3.1805 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:06:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062301 = 6.8531 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00062277 = 17.313 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062209 = 6.9052 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:07:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1612 @ 0.000622 = 1.0027 BTC [-]
Feb 21 00:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1353 @ 0.00062846 = 0.8503 BTC [+]
Feb 21 00:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062968 = 2.7208 BTC [+]
Feb 21 00:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00062969 = 6.045 BTC [+]
Feb 21 00:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2756 @ 0.00062994 = 1.7361 BTC [+]
Feb 21 00:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9967 @ 0.00063295 = 6.3086 BTC [+]
Feb 21 00:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1268 @ 0.00064077 = 0.8125 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 00:28:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 01:08:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:09:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2784 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:10:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.271 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:10:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.266 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:10:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.2401 = 1.4406 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:10:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.24 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:15:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.00065 = 0.0026 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:16:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:33:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00063613 = 3.8804 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063732 = 2.7539 BTC [+]
Feb 21 01:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2179 @ 0.00063741 = 1.3889 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 01:39:42 <josh5>	Who wants to make $$$ quick
Feb 21 01:43:29 <Namworld>	what's your proposal... I'm almost afraid to ask.
Feb 21 01:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20298 @ 0.00063644 = 12.9185 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:44:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 952 @ 0.00063644 = 0.6059 BTC [-]
Feb 21 01:44:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16034 @ 0.00063741 = 10.2202 BTC [+]
Feb 21 01:44:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15281 @ 0.00063808 = 9.7505 BTC [+]
Feb 21 01:44:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6303 @ 0.00064077 = 4.0388 BTC [+]
Feb 21 01:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7156 @ 0.00064087 = 4.5861 BTC [+]
Feb 21 01:44:59 <josh5>	Lol Namworld
Feb 21 01:45:01 <josh5>	I'm jk
Feb 21 01:45:09 <josh5>	I don't even have the slightest fucking clue how bitcoins work
Feb 21 01:45:13 <josh5>	and how to get them bitcoins
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Feb 21 01:46:57 <Namworld>	Ah. I was almost afraid you had a proposal... and that it would be ridiculous. Cued by the usual "make $$$ quick" statement which never bodes well.
Feb 21 01:47:42 <Namworld>	I see many newcomers lately, seeking Bitcoins. I insist we're in the middle of a bubble that will eventually collapse.
Feb 21 01:48:37 <Namworld>	I see many newcomers buying and insisting Bitcoin can only keep going up and how they're going to be rich. And to me that seems like bad news.
Feb 21 01:50:06 <josh5>	have they been going up?
Feb 21 01:50:15 <josh5>	how does this whole thing work
Feb 21 01:50:32 <Namworld>	Here's the last few months
Feb 21 01:50:35 <Namworld>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg180ztgSza1gEMAzm1g10za2gEMAzm2g21zv
Feb 21 01:50:45 <Namworld>	You can see the price hovering around 12-14 USD/BTC
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Feb 21 01:51:12 <Namworld>	then suddenly in two months, exponantial curve upward. We're close to 30 USD/BTC
Feb 21 01:51:27 <josh5>	what does the value of the bitcoin seem to depend on?
Feb 21 01:51:35 <josh5>	and how do you get them
Feb 21 01:51:55 <josh5>	and sell them
Feb 21 01:52:16 <Namworld>	To me it looks like it's 25% based on services and economy, and 75% based on speculation/hoarders.
Feb 21 01:52:55 <josh5>	what do you use bitcoins for, Nameworld?
Feb 21 01:53:02 <Namworld>	So mostly driven by news and people making wild assumptions of consequent fast growth.
Feb 21 01:53:55 <Namworld>	I sell services for Bitcoins. I also buy some shares of select Bitcoin businesses.
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Feb 21 01:54:58 <Namworld>	You can usually buy/sell bitcoins either by wire transfer to an exchanger, or by buying/selling locally for cash.
Feb 21 01:55:16 <Namworld>	Wide selection of places that can make the exchange.
Feb 21 01:55:49 <josh5>	have you made profit with this?
Feb 21 01:55:52 <Namworld>	But mostly, the price fluctuates a lot since it's not largely adopted.
Feb 21 01:56:27 <josh5>	probably not a stable investment for me to put 500000$ in then
Feb 21 01:56:37 <josh5>	probably high risk
Feb 21 01:56:55 <Namworld>	I've made profits the same way I would without Bitcoins. Selling services.
Feb 21 01:57:21 <josh5>	what types of services?
Feb 21 01:57:43 <Namworld>	web hosting and related.
Feb 21 01:58:03 <Namworld>	People who buy Bitcoins for investment speculate it will keep rising. But it's mostly an experimental currency. It does have some interesting properties.
Feb 21 01:58:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.00619 = 2.476 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 01:59:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 7 @ 0.58 = 4.06 BTC [-]
Feb 21 02:01:05 <Namworld>	Hmm, McGill, that's in my town.
Feb 21 02:02:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [+]
Feb 21 02:03:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.34899 BTC [+]
Feb 21 02:03:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.349 = 0.698 BTC [+]
Feb 21 02:04:19 <Namworld>	I'd like to short these mining assets...
Feb 21 02:05:47 <Namworld>	If anyone holds them and didn't intend to sell them, PM me please.
Feb 21 02:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8844 @ 0.00064087 = 5.6679 BTC [+]
Feb 21 02:06:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8955 @ 0.00064096 = 5.7398 BTC [+]
Feb 21 02:06:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10301 @ 0.00064125 = 6.6055 BTC [+]
Feb 21 02:12:06 <usagi>	namworld, I have a plan to make 1000 bitcoins that can't possibly fail.
Feb 21 02:12:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
Feb 21 02:12:18 <Namworld>	Sounds dubious
Feb 21 02:12:28 <usagi>	But first I need a loan for 2,000 bitcoins.
Feb 21 02:12:35 <usagi>	Maybe 1500, not sure
Feb 21 02:13:00 <Namworld>	Sounds perfectly safe!
Feb 21 02:13:09 <Namworld>	</sarcasm>
Feb 21 02:13:13 <usagi>	It is.
Feb 21 02:13:32 <Namworld>	I don't know of any thing requiring money to achieve that can't fail.
Feb 21 02:13:53 <usagi>	Real estate redevelopment where the counterparty will match your input dollar for dollar
Feb 21 02:16:59 <usagi>	You know those movies where someone dies and leaves some ridiculous clause in the will like, you need to redevelop a house in six months and you win a million dollars? it's like that
Feb 21 02:18:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00064125 = 8.4004 BTC [+]
Feb 21 02:18:46 <Namworld>	Sounds incredibly risky
Feb 21 02:18:51 <usagi>	Not at all :)
Feb 21 02:19:06 <usagi>	If I told you the details you would drool. But the truth is, it's troublesome to do a loan
Feb 21 02:19:21 <usagi>	Which was my point, I mean, what I was trying to say.. People asking for loans can't be trusted imo
Feb 21 02:19:38 <usagi>	since if they had a really good idea they wouldn't want to cut anyone in on it usually
Feb 21 02:22:34 <Namworld>	If someone proposed me such a deal, I'd assume it's a conman trying to sweet-talk me out of my money. I'd start by stabbing and ask questions later. You should do the same.
Feb 21 02:24:18 <usagi>	You just have to look into it. The last guy trying to sell a house for bitcoin conveniently forgot to mention the city was going to take it the following month for not paying property taxes
Feb 21 02:24:48 <usagi>	Donald Trump made all his money in real estate, twice over
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Feb 21 02:29:02 <Namworld>	I remain uninterested.
Feb 21 02:31:37 <usagi>	Well I wasn't really making an offer to you. It's just something I'm doing.
Feb 21 02:32:15 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone know anything about an update tonight with asic miner?
Feb 21 02:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063605 = 2.7484 BTC [-]
Feb 21 02:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4179 @ 0.00063592 = 2.6575 BTC [-]
Feb 21 02:33:50 <usagi>	Last price:$30.31046
Feb 21 02:33:53 <usagi>	my god lol it's over 30
Feb 21 02:34:02 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Feb 21 02:34:05 <Chaang-Noi>	troll?
Feb 21 02:34:08 <usagi>	bitcoins my man
Feb 21 02:34:10 <usagi>	BITCOINS.
Feb 21 02:34:19 <Chaang-Noi>	what exchange?
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Feb 21 02:34:23 <usagi>	mtgox
Feb 21 02:34:35 <Chaang-Noi>	what currancy?
Feb 21 02:34:39 <usagi>	;;ticker
Feb 21 02:34:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.70000, Best ask: 29.72900, Bid-ask spread: 0.02900, Last trade: 29.72900, 24 hour volume: 34684.65352865, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.53720
Feb 21 02:34:48 <usagi>	Hmm
Feb 21 02:34:54 <Chaang-Noi>	it was not in usd
Feb 21 02:34:58 <usagi>	That was a cut and paste ("Last price:$30.31046")
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Feb 21 02:35:05 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Feb 21 02:35:06 <Namworld>	No, ticker
Feb 21 02:35:09 <Namworld>	on MtGox
Feb 21 02:35:15 <Chaang-Noi>	it was something like yen or baht that has a shit exchange rate and was higher
Feb 21 02:35:17 <Namworld>	sometimes report higher price for some reason
Feb 21 02:35:33 <usagi>	lol mtgox manipulation of the true btc price
Feb 21 02:35:34 <Chaang-Noi>	its trades that are not USD converted into usd
Feb 21 02:35:41 <Chaang-Noi>	its retarded...
Feb 21 02:35:42 <usagi>	ok
Feb 21 02:35:52 <usagi>	Last price:$30.32607 <---- again
Feb 21 02:35:55 <usagi>	im watchnigit now
Feb 21 02:35:57 <Chaang-Noi>	if i cared about gox id tell them to fix their bug but i dont... so fuck them :)
Feb 21 02:36:08 <Chaang-Noi>	might be euro or pounds
Feb 21 02:36:17 <Chaang-Noi>	looks like euro
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Feb 21 02:38:22 <Bowjob>	This super cute japanese girl added me
Feb 21 02:38:23 <Bowjob>	!
Feb 21 02:38:44 <usagi>	super kawaii
Feb 21 02:38:50 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 21 02:39:25 <Bowjob>	we played SF.. out of all games
Feb 21 02:39:26 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 02:39:41 <usagi>	SF o_o
Feb 21 02:39:44 <usagi>	whats SF
Feb 21 02:39:50 <Namworld>	Street Fighter?
Feb 21 02:39:57 <Bowjob>	yes
Feb 21 02:40:18 <usagi>	yeah thats the kickass stuff... sf
Feb 21 02:40:19 <Bowjob>	Her friend is one of the top Blanka players in japan
Feb 21 02:40:26 <usagi>	blanka is op
Feb 21 02:40:33 <Bowjob>	I happen to main Blanka >:)
Feb 21 02:40:35 <usagi>	like akira in vf2.. its a rip
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Feb 21 02:40:51 <Bowjob>	I'm trying to level up my Blanka.. I recently got blown off at a tournament
Feb 21 02:41:00 <Bowjob>	I lost most of my morale, I thought I was pretty good
Feb 21 02:41:12 <usagi>	I won a SF competition once
Feb 21 02:41:21 <Bowjob>	Nice, which game?
Feb 21 02:41:23 <usagi>	just city wide tho
Feb 21 02:41:32 <usagi>	Street fighter 2.. it was a long time ago
Feb 21 02:41:35 <Bowjob>	Well, I was up against Air.. ^
Feb 21 02:41:43 <Bowjob>	Air is like one of the best Ryus in Canada
Feb 21 02:42:10 <usagi>	I prefer soul calibur to virtua fighter and virtua fighter to street fighter
Feb 21 02:42:11 <Bowjob>	Ooh.. SF2. I still play that game from time to time over GGPO
Feb 21 02:42:28 <Bowjob>	I main Honda in that game
Feb 21 02:42:46 <usagi>	I forgot there was a street fighter one.....
Feb 21 02:43:00 <Bowjob>	yes there is, it wasn't a fighting game
Feb 21 02:44:04 <Bowjob>	https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-prn1/c66.1.414.414/s160x160/154872_152055988285235_1073522788_n.jpg
Feb 21 02:44:11 <Bowjob>	shes actually pretty cute
Feb 21 02:44:33 <Bowjob>	she plays impulsively though.. but she can nail some nice combos
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Feb 21 02:48:33 <dub>	inb4 shes a dude
Feb 21 02:48:57 <Namworld>	Angry dub to the rescue.
Feb 21 02:50:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40299 BTC [+]
Feb 21 02:51:22 <Bowjob>	mhm dub you raise a good point
Feb 21 02:51:32 <Bowjob>	I need further investigation if shes a dude or not
Feb 21 02:52:28 <Bowjob>	well she doesnt sound like a dude at least lol
Feb 21 02:52:53 <Namworld>	This whole thing about asian girls being males or vice-versa is a myth. Everyone knows they're all asexual and reproduce as such. They're also not human.
Feb 21 02:54:17 <Bowjob>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp7x6hoem81qzs0p3o1_400.png
Feb 21 02:54:31 <Bowjob>	That is actually 2 dudes..
Feb 21 02:54:50 <Bowjob>	I think he knows, he wears a Trapcom shirt
Feb 21 02:55:10 <Namworld>	yeah, was about to remark that...
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Feb 21 03:00:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [-]
Feb 21 03:00:55 <Chaang-Noi>	the topic is asian school girls? lol
Feb 21 03:01:17 <Chaang-Noi>	oh and traps
Feb 21 03:01:22 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 21 03:01:34 <Namworld>	Apparently
Feb 21 03:02:21 <Chaang-Noi>	bitstamp is 29.77
Feb 21 03:02:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063954 = 2.7635 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:02:29 <Chaang-Noi>	so no one heard about the update tonight maybe?
Feb 21 03:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00063964 = 5.8847 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2432 @ 0.00064125 = 1.5595 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:02:38 <Chaang-Noi>	with asicminer?
Feb 21 03:02:40 <Namworld>	nope
Feb 21 03:02:43 <Chaang-Noi>	okay
Feb 21 03:03:19 <Bowjob>	i dont think shes a trap
Feb 21 03:03:30 <Bowjob>	id love to visit japan someday. dat kobe beef!
Feb 21 03:03:58 <Namworld>	Japanese food is nice. Actually many places' food is nice.
Feb 21 03:04:13 <Bowjob>	american food is nice?
Feb 21 03:04:19 <Bowjob>	like mcdicks?
Feb 21 03:04:22 <Namworld>	Depends on what.
Feb 21 03:05:13 <Namworld>	We french canadians have poutine. I hearty food that might just clog your heart and kill you.
Feb 21 03:05:57 <Bowjob>	nam, you from quebec?
Feb 21 03:06:07 <Namworld>	yeah. I'm in Montreal.
Feb 21 03:06:32 <Bowjob>	is it true that quebecois hate english speaking people there?
Feb 21 03:07:00 <Namworld>	No...
Feb 21 03:07:08 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 21 03:07:22 <Namworld>	It's like everywhere... there's a few haters who don't like no one from outside.
Feb 21 03:07:28 <Namworld>	Most don't care.
Feb 21 03:08:04 <Bowjob>	the impression i get from quebec is that they seem to cry alot over language laws
Feb 21 03:08:15 <Bowjob>	for instance, they wanted walmart to change into a french sounding name
Feb 21 03:08:25 <Namworld>	I hate those people...
Feb 21 03:08:28 <Bowjob>	le magasin walmart <--- instead of walmart
Feb 21 03:08:31 <Bowjob>	and le gap
Feb 21 03:08:33 <Bowjob>	instead of gap
Feb 21 03:08:40 <Namworld>	I hate them...
Feb 21 03:08:51 <Namworld>	I also hate pro-french laws...
Feb 21 03:08:56 <Bowjob>	ah, they seem to be very vocal at least
Feb 21 03:09:02 <Diablo-D3>	you know what I hate?
Feb 21 03:09:06 <Bowjob>	that thats what we vancouverites hear most
Feb 21 03:09:12 <Namworld>	Yes, those defending the french language tend to be very vocal...
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Feb 21 03:09:22 <Diablo-D3>	other languages at all.
Feb 21 03:09:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00064125 = 5.8995 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:09:54 <Diablo-D3>	Im just tired of other languages
Feb 21 03:09:57 <Diablo-D3>	theres no point to them
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Feb 21 03:10:03 <Diablo-D3>	"blah blah blah cultural reasons" fuck that
Feb 21 03:10:16 <Diablo-D3>	the moment we invented the internet, all other culture ceased to exist
Feb 21 03:10:30 <Diablo-D3>	it was absorbed into the gestalt entity of the internet
Feb 21 03:10:43 <Bowjob>	: The Office Quebecois de la Langue Francaise,:
Feb 21 03:10:50 <Bowjob>	Why does it have The as part of its name
Feb 21 03:11:14 <Diablo-D3>	maybe its the quebec french version of The Office?
Feb 21 03:11:26 <Bowjob>	"Section 63 of Quebec's French Language Charter, the name of a business must be in French."
Feb 21 03:11:37 <Bowjob>	There you go, nam. its the government lol
Feb 21 03:11:47 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: yeah, but what happens when the name contains no words.
Feb 21 03:12:07 <Namworld>	yeah... I had to register my name in french by adding french words to Namworld. But I can use Namworld as is as a trademark.
Feb 21 03:12:19 <Namworld>	The registered name must simply be in French...
Feb 21 03:12:27 <Namworld>	We have stupid laws...
Feb 21 03:12:35 <Bowjob>	Le Namworld?
Feb 21 03:12:46 <Bowjob>	sounds like something from reddit lol
Feb 21 03:12:52 <Diablo-D3>	namworld isnt a word either
Feb 21 03:12:56 <Diablo-D3>	I would register as is
Feb 21 03:13:03 <Namworld>	Namworld Business Services, but in french, on the registration. Or something like that.
Feb 21 03:13:05 <Diablo-D3>	claiming namworld is the correctly translated french
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Feb 21 03:13:19 <Bowjob>	nammonde
Feb 21 03:13:20 <Namworld>	I don't recall what I put.
Feb 21 03:13:33 <Bowjob>	is that correct.. only took french for 3 years
Feb 21 03:13:39 <Bowjob>	forgot most of it lol
Feb 21 03:13:42 <Namworld>	nah, Namworld stayed as is.
Feb 21 03:13:53 <Namworld>	But with french words along it.
Feb 21 03:14:12 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, I would have just started shooting french speakers until they moved out of the country and back to mars
Feb 21 03:14:18 <Bowjob>	in 2009 i remember quebec banned videogames with no french option
Feb 21 03:14:23 <Namworld>	But using Namworld alone is fine as a trademark when facing customers
Feb 21 03:14:26 <Bowjob>	i was like.. wow quebec needs to grow up
Feb 21 03:14:30 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: so what about The Journey?
Feb 21 03:14:41 <Bowjob>	th what?
Feb 21 03:14:59 <Diablo-D3>	a game famous for having no speech, yet having rich emotional interactions
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Feb 21 03:15:03 <Diablo-D3>	no text either
Feb 21 03:15:23 <Bowjob>	well at the back of the box
Feb 21 03:15:30 <Bowjob>	it has to have some french writing on it
Feb 21 03:15:31 <Bowjob>	or its banned
Feb 21 03:15:40 <Bowjob>	usually in canada we get english and french labels
Feb 21 03:15:41 <Diablo-D3>	no box.
Feb 21 03:15:47 <Diablo-D3>	its cloud download.
Feb 21 03:15:50 <Diablo-D3>	off PSN
Feb 21 03:15:56 <Bowjob>	clouds should be fine i thinkl
Feb 21 03:16:28 <Namworld>	no... managed networks tend to ban Quebec. Sweepstake and contests too.
Feb 21 03:17:03 <Diablo-D3>	good
Feb 21 03:17:04 <Namworld>	Sweepstakes and contests must pay part of the value of what's to win to some organisation...
Feb 21 03:17:07 <Bowjob>	http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/02/quebec-law-outlaws-english-only-titles/
Feb 21 03:17:10 <Bowjob>	it is from 2009
Feb 21 03:17:12 <Diablo-D3>	quebec should be banned
Feb 21 03:17:15 <Bowjob>	Wow. my memory is correct
Feb 21 03:17:23 <Namworld>	Our whole government is mostly retarded.
Feb 21 03:17:24 <Bowjob>	yeah, we kinda ban quebec from contests, ect
Feb 21 03:17:28 <Chaang-Noi>	quebec city is nice
Feb 21 03:17:39 <Bowjob>	the city is nice, the government isnt
Feb 21 03:17:41 <Bowjob>	maybe idk
Feb 21 03:17:55 <Chaang-Noi>	a hot police lady pulled me over when i was driving the wrong way, lol, was only there one hour i had no idea wtf i was doing:P)
Feb 21 03:17:56 <Bowjob>	they wanted to separate from canada
Feb 21 03:18:17 <Namworld>	Yeah, well the place is nice. But the laws are nonsensical at times or a bit extreme.
Feb 21 03:18:17 <Bowjob>	like.. theyd be surrounded by canada if they do lol
Feb 21 03:18:18 <Chaang-Noi>	when i was there, there was riots, was a good time
Feb 21 03:18:33 <Bowjob>	Chang, you havent seen the vancouver riots then :P
Feb 21 03:18:40 <Namworld>	students?
Feb 21 03:18:48 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: no
Feb 21 03:18:48 <Bowjob>	I was out when it happened..
Feb 21 03:18:53 <Diablo-D3>	they share a border with the US
Feb 21 03:18:54 <Chaang-Noi>	no, summit of the americas
Feb 21 03:19:04 <Chaang-Noi>	called in 10,000 canadian troops, was lol
Feb 21 03:19:16 <Chaang-Noi>	so much tears gas
Feb 21 03:19:34 <Chaang-Noi>	they has to shut down the meeting and evac the leaders of north and south america in helicopters
Feb 21 03:20:07 <Chaang-Noi>	people there hates banks even more than the btc people
Feb 21 03:20:20 <Chaang-Noi>	well, they used more fire than btc people atleast, lol
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Feb 21 03:21:15 <Bowjob>	hey i dont really hate banks
Feb 21 03:21:21 <Bowjob>	i just want to make profit
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Feb 21 03:21:37 <Bowjob>	banks hold money for me then I can use debit
Feb 21 03:21:46 <Bowjob>	carrying paper money is a hassle lol
Feb 21 03:21:54 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, did my messages get sent, internet fails here
Feb 21 03:22:01 <Namworld>	yes
Feb 21 03:22:05 <Bowjob>	 well, they used more fire than btc people atleast, lol
Feb 21 03:22:06 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Feb 21 03:22:12 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Feb 21 03:22:17 <Chaang-Noi>	was a crazy time
Feb 21 03:22:19 <Chaang-Noi>	was in uni then
Feb 21 03:22:27 <Bowjob>	well i said i didnt really hate banks
Feb 21 03:22:30 <Bowjob>	i just want to make profit
Feb 21 03:22:30 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 03:22:36 <Chaang-Noi>	just when i started to become a gold buy at $300 an oz :)
Feb 21 03:22:52 <Bowjob>	300 oz when was this
Feb 21 03:22:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i like profit, but fuck fiat:)
Feb 21 03:23:06 <Chaang-Noi>	300$ an oz about 2001ish
Feb 21 03:23:16 <Namworld>	O.o
Feb 21 03:23:19 <Namworld>	Wow...
Feb 21 03:23:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i bought big into silver at$7
Feb 21 03:23:24 <Bowjob>	gold woulda been a nice investment
Feb 21 03:23:25 <Chaang-Noi>	some even lower
Feb 21 03:23:30 <Namworld>	Never really kept track.
Feb 21 03:23:38 <Chaang-Noi>	it was, i just sold a company to amazon.com and did all gold and silver
Feb 21 03:23:44 <Namworld>	Especially since I was too young at the time.
Feb 21 03:23:49 <Chaang-Noi>	then i moved to gold and silver into btc around $3 to $5
Feb 21 03:24:04 <Namworld>	Sounds good.
Feb 21 03:24:06 <Chaang-Noi>	so, even after pirate fial im okay
Feb 21 03:24:20 <Chaang-Noi>	this weekend im going to drink soo much guniess
Feb 21 03:24:33 <Bowjob>	it woulda been nice if you were able to ride pirates ponzi
Feb 21 03:24:41 <Bowjob>	and make an exit 2 weeks before it collapses
Feb 21 03:24:42 <Chaang-Noi>	it was for a while
Feb 21 03:24:45 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah...
Feb 21 03:24:47 <Chaang-Noi>	i wish lol
Feb 21 03:24:49 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 03:24:57 <Bowjob>	who profited from pirate?
Feb 21 03:25:08 <Chaang-Noi>	pirate?
Feb 21 03:25:14 <Bowjob>	pirateat40
Feb 21 03:25:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17832 @ 0.00064125 = 11.4348 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:25:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064156 = 4.8759 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16018 @ 0.00064385 = 10.3132 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:25:19 <Chaang-Noi>	i do know some people who broke even...
Feb 21 03:25:26 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 21 03:25:31 <Bowjob>	i heard hes in thailan
Feb 21 03:25:32 <Bowjob>	d
Feb 21 03:25:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, but that guy who said that would not tell me where... no way i could check...
Feb 21 03:25:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i assumed he was trolling
Feb 21 03:25:58 <Bowjob>	BCB right?
Feb 21 03:26:04 <Chaang-Noi>	or he was getting trolled, yeah
Feb 21 03:26:16 <Bowjob>	i know what he looks like now, if I see him in Van, I'll tag him
Feb 21 03:26:19 <Chaang-Noi>	id not be too chocked if he was here but i dont think he is here
Feb 21 03:26:34 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, im watching out for him too but im off the track
Feb 21 03:26:54 <Bowjob>	theres a nice BTC reward at the end for his info :3
Feb 21 03:28:01 <Chaang-Noi>	we have his info
Feb 21 03:28:08 <Chaang-Noi>	we just cant do much until sec gets done
Feb 21 03:28:16 <Chaang-Noi>	or you mean his cirrent location?
Feb 21 03:28:19 <Bowjob>	yes
Feb 21 03:28:22 <Bowjob>	he fled right?
Feb 21 03:28:22 <Namworld>	Is the sec really doing something?
Feb 21 03:28:33 <Chaang-Noi>	right now we dont care where he is now, we need to wait for sec
Feb 21 03:28:38 <Bowjob>	its not in the secs interest to help those who get scammed
Feb 21 03:28:41 <Chaang-Noi>	and yes the sec seems to be, they are progressing
Feb 21 03:29:00 <Bowjob>	that would make them acknowledge btc
Feb 21 03:29:04 <Chaang-Noi>	they have selected witnesses to the case, and i think some ppt operatiors are working with the sec
Feb 21 03:29:13 <Namworld>	Nice
Feb 21 03:29:31 <Bowjob>	that was a ballsy move.. even genius for pirate
Feb 21 03:29:37 <Bowjob>	if sec doesnt do anything.. then what?
Feb 21 03:29:44 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 21 03:29:58 <Bowjob>	he should be lucky if he didnt cross a zeta
Feb 21 03:30:00 <Bowjob>	if he did..
Feb 21 03:30:01 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 03:30:03 <Chaang-Noi>	its not like it will go away, lol
Feb 21 03:30:30 <Bowjob>	this is just my imagination but if pirate crossed a cartel member
Feb 21 03:30:35 <Bowjob>	he might end up on bestgore
Feb 21 03:31:03 <Chaang-Noi>	if the right guy gets him thinking he has a 100,000 btc....
Feb 21 03:31:44 <Bowjob>	i didnt get scammed by him, wasnt a bitcoiner then
Feb 21 03:31:53 <Bowjob>	idk if id get scammed or not
Feb 21 03:31:54 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 21 03:32:07 <Diablo-D3>	if you dont understand the business model, dont invest
Feb 21 03:32:07 <Namworld>	Hmm... wrench/pipe treatment? Maybe a few pointy or edged stuff too.
Feb 21 03:32:16 <Diablo-D3>	no matter how good the return is
Feb 21 03:32:39 <Bowjob>	d'oh. say that to the people who got scammed
Feb 21 03:32:44 <Diablo-D3>	I did
Feb 21 03:32:44 <Chaang-Noi>	d3, i thought i did, and the thing is, no one has proved it was a ponzi... he might have just gone lol! when everyone thought it was...
Feb 21 03:32:54 <Diablo-D3>	infact from the beginning I told people not to invest in pirate
Feb 21 03:32:55 <Diablo-D3>	they did anyhow
Feb 21 03:33:03 <Diablo-D3>	people _really_ need to learn to listen to me
Feb 21 03:33:07 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 03:33:10 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 lol
Feb 21 03:33:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 441 @ 0.00064385 = 0.2839 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:33:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064406 = 10.305 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:33:16 <Bowjob>	whats your take on micon vs bfl?
Feb 21 03:33:19 <Diablo-D3>	I told people not to invest in bfl, look what happened there
Feb 21 03:33:20 <Chaang-Noi>	most people made more off of pirate than your stock d3:)
Feb 21 03:33:22 <Bowjob>	micon called pirate out too
Feb 21 03:33:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3762 @ 0.00064407 = 2.423 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:33:29 <Bowjob>	that gives him credibility imo
Feb 21 03:33:35 <Bowjob>	now micon is calling out bfl
Feb 21 03:33:40 <Bowjob>	wtf is this then
Feb 21 03:33:44 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: dude, hes just doing it because I did it
Feb 21 03:33:48 <Diablo-D3>	I called BFL since day one
Feb 21 03:33:50 <Chaang-Noi>	micron was just the loudest
Feb 21 03:34:07 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 i was the first to call the BS on the fpga.. remeber my bet with p4man?
Feb 21 03:34:12 <Diablo-D3>	dude, Im a forum mod and the author of diablominer, you cant get any louder than that
Feb 21 03:34:27 <Bowjob>	diablo im not sure if micon did it because you did
Feb 21 03:34:28 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 03:34:32 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: they DID deliver the fpgas though
Feb 21 03:34:34 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 you did not spam every other thread about PONZI!!!!!#!!! like micron
Feb 21 03:34:38 <Diablo-D3>	even though they were late and quite shitty
Feb 21 03:34:45 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 not at the specs, i won that bet
Feb 21 03:34:47 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yes, because Im not a fucktard like micron
Feb 21 03:34:48 <Chaang-Noi>	they were 4005 off
Feb 21 03:35:00 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah micron is a fuck tard, that was my point
Feb 21 03:35:05 <Chaang-Noi>	he has no credibility with me
Feb 21 03:35:05 <Diablo-D3>	and dont bring up DMC, DMC isnt dead yet
Feb 21 03:35:16 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 21 03:35:26 <Diablo-D3>	we'll end up breaking even in the end anyhow
Feb 21 03:35:31 <Bowjob>	dmc?
Feb 21 03:35:35 <Bowjob>	devil may cry?
Feb 21 03:35:36 <Bowjob>	wat
Feb 21 03:35:40 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: diablo mining company
Feb 21 03:35:44 <Bowjob>	oh lol
Feb 21 03:36:08 <Bowjob>	so I got an Asic from Avalon.. seems like Avalon got a small dose of BFL syndrome
Feb 21 03:36:20 <Bowjob>	so ill get mine maybe by may?
Feb 21 03:36:26 <Diablo-D3>	its a company I was trying to get investors for to build a datacenter that focused on high density computing
Feb 21 03:36:30 <Bowjob>	i wonder if I made the right choice
Feb 21 03:36:57 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob you got one in the mail?
Feb 21 03:37:09 <Diablo-D3>	no, he ordered batch 2
Feb 21 03:37:14 <Bowjob>	Nope, I said i ordered batch 2
Feb 21 03:37:22 <Chaang-Noi>	oh you gave them money, they got your btc, you got shit :)
Feb 21 03:37:24 <Chaang-Noi>	not an asic lol
Feb 21 03:37:36 <Diablo-D3>	he'll get his in march
Feb 21 03:37:43 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe
Feb 21 03:37:45 <Bowjob>	Well, delivery date is march
Feb 21 03:37:49 <Chaang-Noi>	batch 1 did not even ship
Feb 21 03:37:50 <Diablo-D3>	no, most likely
Feb 21 03:37:51 <Bowjob>	it takes a while for them to get it
Feb 21 03:37:52 <Chaang-Noi>	im wondering scam?
Feb 21 03:37:54 <Diablo-D3>	they're not doing anything new on those
Feb 21 03:37:59 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: no, it did
Feb 21 03:38:04 <Bowjob>	Chang, CNY
Feb 21 03:38:07 <Diablo-D3>	they shippped them but CNY shuts everything down
Feb 21 03:38:13 <Diablo-D3>	they didnt get out of the country in time
Feb 21 03:38:20 <Diablo-D3>	china is really fucking stupid
Feb 21 03:38:23 <Diablo-D3>	no wonder their economy is in shambles
Feb 21 03:38:23 <Chaang-Noi>	oh... lol   ill believe it when i see it
Feb 21 03:38:33 <Bowjob>	Well, theres a third one at least
Feb 21 03:38:36 <Bowjob>	this ones from china
Feb 21 03:38:36 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah china.. has no economy...
Feb 21 03:38:41 <Bowjob>	so it all adds up so far
Feb 21 03:38:52 <Diablo-D3>	asicminer won the game in the end, though
Feb 21 03:39:01 <Chaang-Noi>	how so?
Feb 21 03:39:07 <Diablo-D3>	they got their entire farm up before avalon could get theirs to customers
Feb 21 03:39:23 <Bowjob>	I bought some shit from japan before
Feb 21 03:39:25 <Namworld>	where are they mining
Feb 21 03:39:26 <Bowjob>	took around 20 days
Feb 21 03:39:32 <Namworld>	other than BTCguild
Feb 21 03:39:35 <Bowjob>	to ship it to canada
Feb 21 03:39:43 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: two pools now
Feb 21 03:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00562811 = 2.8141 BTC [-]
Feb 21 03:39:53 <Diablo-D3>	I think ozwhatever?
Feb 21 03:40:05 <Diablo-D3>	gaert's pool
Feb 21 03:40:11 <Namworld>	ozco.in
Feb 21 03:40:23 <Diablo-D3>	ozcoin
Feb 21 03:40:39 <Diablo-D3>	they should just switch their entire thing over to p2pool though
Feb 21 03:40:59 <Bowjob>	someone is offering 10k USD for an Avalon ASIC
Feb 21 03:41:00 <Bowjob>	wow
Feb 21 03:41:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063701 = 2.7525 BTC [-]
Feb 21 03:41:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10779 @ 0.00063674 = 6.8634 BTC [-]
Feb 21 03:41:20 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, thats pointless
Feb 21 03:41:25 <Diablo-D3>	asicminer already ate everyone's lunch
Feb 21 03:41:26 <Bowjob>	keep da asic
Feb 21 03:41:29 <Bowjob>	well
Feb 21 03:41:31 <Bowjob>	not really
Feb 21 03:41:34 <Diablo-D3>	its too late to for even batch 1 avalon customers
Feb 21 03:41:38 <Bowjob>	its still plenty profitable
Feb 21 03:41:49 <Chaang-Noi>	;;sell 50,000
Feb 21 03:41:49 <gribble>	Error: '50,000' is not a valid positive floating point number.
Feb 21 03:42:05 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 25
Feb 21 03:42:08 <gribble>	There are currently 51370.761 bitcoins demanded at or over 25.0 USD, worth 1398522.45274 USD in total.
Feb 21 03:42:17 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 80
Feb 21 03:42:20 <gribble>	There are currently 49982.784 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 1888790.99665 USD in total.
Feb 21 03:42:27 <Chaang-Noi>	sell 50k go to $25
Feb 21 03:42:33 <Chaang-Noi>	but $50k go to $80
Feb 21 03:42:36 <Chaang-Noi>	lulz
Feb 21 03:42:43 <Chaang-Noi>	who wants to sell?
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Feb 21 03:42:50 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway i got go for a bit
Feb 21 03:42:51 <Chaang-Noi>	pease
Feb 21 03:43:08 <Diablo-D3>	I think Im going to sell 100 of my btc
Feb 21 03:43:12 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 21 03:43:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.67201, Best ask: 29.73000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05799, Last trade: 29.73000, 24 hour volume: 34851.57556269, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.54424
Feb 21 03:43:16 <Bowjob>	http://organofcorti.blogspot.ca/2013/02/910-asic-choices-avalon-update-3.html
Feb 21 03:43:22 <Diablo-D3>	and buy a new laptop or some shit
Feb 21 03:43:28 <Bowjob>	still plenty for everyone
Feb 21 03:43:52 <Diablo-D3>	;;bcdiff
Feb 21 03:43:52 <gribble>	Error: "bcdiff" is not a valid command.
Feb 21 03:43:56 <Diablo-D3>	;;bc,diff
Feb 21 03:43:57 <gribble>	3651011.6306932
Feb 21 03:44:12 <Diablo-D3>	heh, we may see 10m by the end of the month
Feb 21 03:44:15 <Graet>	no acsiminer on ozcoin i'm aware of
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Feb 21 03:44:30 <Graet>	apparently p2pool is pretty shit for asic, so i guess thats why they arent
Feb 21 03:44:36 <Graet>	we have a few avalons tho :)
Feb 21 03:44:43 <Diablo-D3>	Graet: no, its fine for asic
Feb 21 03:44:49 <Diablo-D3>	avalon has fucked something up with cgminer
Feb 21 03:45:03 <Diablo-D3>	or cgminer has a bug and its never been exposed because no one pointed enough hash power at it
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Feb 21 03:45:49 <Graet>	no what i'm hearing, but i dont have oner or mine on p2pool, shrug
Feb 21 03:47:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [-]
Feb 21 03:47:35 <Diablo-D3>	I use p2pool and was helping jgzarik try to get his working right
Feb 21 03:47:48 <Diablo-D3>	forrest pushed a few patches to help avalons too
Feb 21 03:48:31 <Bowjob>	jgzarik must be fucking shitting his pants still
Feb 21 03:48:41 <Bowjob>	the thing prints money!
Feb 21 03:49:40 <Diablo-D3>	it paid for itself in 8 days.
Feb 21 03:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00063675 = 1.9739 BTC [+]
Feb 21 03:51:15 <Bowjob>	10th and before April 15th
Feb 21 03:51:22 <Bowjob>	thats when they will ship it
Feb 21 03:51:23 <Bowjob>	so ..
Feb 21 03:51:29 <Bowjob>	I'll get mine by may
Feb 21 03:51:49 <Bowjob>	id make less than 1 BTC per day with it
Feb 21 03:51:55 <Bowjob>	so much for retiring a miner
Feb 21 03:51:56 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 03:52:18 <Bowjob>	assuming BFL ships of course
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Feb 21 04:01:13 <Bowjob>	now who wants to buy my ASIC pre order for batch no 2 :P
Feb 21 04:01:32 <jurov>	;;seen Ukto
Feb 21 04:01:32 <gribble>	Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 16 hours, 26 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <Ukto> the*
Feb 21 04:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064206 = 2.7743 BTC [+]
Feb 21 04:01:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19441 @ 0.0006424 = 12.4889 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 04:02:13 <BitHub>	Bowjob - 500$?
Feb 21 04:02:28 <Bowjob>	:/
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Feb 21 04:03:03 <Namworld>	1$
Feb 21 04:03:18 <Namworld>	I prefer to distrust first by default
Feb 21 04:08:27 <Bowjob>	can bfl please fuck up until avalon ships batch 2 pweese
Feb 21 04:08:31 <Bowjob>	pretty please??
Feb 21 04:12:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00063679 = 2.4701 BTC [-]
Feb 21 04:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063678 = 2.7515 BTC [-]
Feb 21 04:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00063675 = 4.3936 BTC [-]
Feb 21 04:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5221 @ 0.00063674 = 3.3244 BTC [-]
Feb 21 04:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1479 @ 0.00063649 = 0.9414 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 04:21:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00064233 = 4.4963 BTC [+]
Feb 21 04:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064234 = 2.7756 BTC [+]
Feb 21 04:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00064239 = 2.4918 BTC [+]
Feb 21 04:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4549 @ 0.0006424 = 2.9223 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 04:43:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3717 @ 0.0006424 = 2.3878 BTC [+]
Feb 21 04:45:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063669 = 2.5786 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 05:02:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17393 @ 0.0006424 = 11.1733 BTC [+]
Feb 21 05:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 657 @ 0.00064378 = 0.423 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 05:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 271 @ 0.00063669 = 0.1725 BTC [-]
Feb 21 05:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0006365 = 4.4555 BTC [-]
Feb 21 05:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00063649 = 3.6598 BTC [-]
Feb 21 05:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13979 @ 0.00063592 = 8.8895 BTC [-]
Feb 21 05:11:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064365 = 2.7812 BTC [+]
Feb 21 05:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9343 @ 0.00064378 = 6.0148 BTC [+]
Feb 21 05:11:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5697 @ 0.00064407 = 3.6693 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 05:15:16 <jurov>	my PAMELA.BOND prediction materialized: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145296.0;topicseen
Feb 21 05:15:28 <jurov>	any passthrough operators interested?
Feb 21 05:16:48 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob do you even need to ask bfl to fuck up?
Feb 21 05:16:56 <Chaang-Noi>	it is always 4 to 6 weeks
Feb 21 05:17:12 <Bowjob>	i want them to fuck up some more, till i get my asic and recoup my investment
Feb 21 05:17:52 <Bowjob>	also, avalon started shipping again, I saw a tracking pic
Feb 21 05:17:54 <Bowjob>	at the forus
Feb 21 05:17:56 <Bowjob>	ms
Feb 21 05:18:02 <Bowjob>	looks like CNY did freeze shit up
Feb 21 05:18:29 <Bowjob>	though at this point, i wouldnt mind travelling to china to get 2 weeks early mine
Feb 21 05:18:59 <Bowjob>	so yah i hope bfl fucks up again
Feb 21 05:19:00 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 05:19:14 <Bowjob>	i sound kinda evil saying this lol
Feb 21 05:19:25 <Bowjob>	10m.. 30m? is at stake
Feb 21 05:19:35 <Bowjob>	those people who paid wjhen btc was 6 dollars each
Feb 21 05:19:37 <Bowjob>	... tsk tsk
Feb 21 05:21:04 <Chaang-Noi>	i would fly to china and mine in a hotel room for a few weed until difficulty adjusted...
Feb 21 05:21:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not buy bfl most cuz of the conversion rate, i just assumed i could pay double in fiat once they shipped and still ahve money left over, turns out i was right, but im more right than i thought id be
Feb 21 05:22:28 <Bowjob>	well at the very least, id replenish the btc
Feb 21 05:22:34 <Bowjob>	to protect my position
Feb 21 05:22:38 <Bowjob>	which I did with avalon
Feb 21 05:22:43 <jurov>	then bfl will lose flash drive with private key to all data... and gone
Feb 21 05:23:04 <jurov>	and i thought it can't get more lulzy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1540424#msg1540424
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Feb 21 05:25:35 <Bowjob>	owner of BFL is a convicted fraud
Feb 21 05:25:45 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 21 05:26:25 <Bowjob>	hopefully he does it again. then hello 10 btc a day
Feb 21 05:30:57 <usagi>	There is a simple solution to everyone's problems. Get Nefario a job at BFL.
Feb 21 05:31:07 <usagi>	Then he can pay everyone back and everyone can collect on the bets
Feb 21 05:31:59 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario should just sell preordered asics:)
Feb 21 05:33:44 <Bowjob>	well, bfl is prolly waiting on their avalon pre orders
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Feb 21 05:49:49 <Bowjob>	i wana wake up at 30 tomorrow
Feb 21 05:55:05 <Namworld>	We'll be down to 15 USD/BTC
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Feb 21 05:57:10 <Bowjob>	nuuuu u wont make me sleep
Feb 21 05:57:15 <Bowjob>	ill just watch the wall alld ay
Feb 21 05:57:46 <Namworld>	http://namcdn.com/btcalarm
Feb 21 05:58:00 <Namworld>	It wakes you up over/under certain thresholds.
Feb 21 05:58:12 <Namworld>	You can watch 24/7 now.
Feb 21 06:00:42 <Bowjob>	not loading
Feb 21 06:00:54 <Namworld>	What browser?
Feb 21 06:01:07 <Namworld>	and just a few or all currencies?
Feb 21 06:01:18 <Bowjob>	all
Feb 21 06:01:25 <Bowjob>	and im using palemoon
Feb 21 06:01:41 <Bowjob>	nvm, it loaded
Feb 21 06:02:18 <Namworld>	Tickers update when a transaction occurs to reflect the latest trade.
Feb 21 06:02:45 <Namworld>	I know on FIrefox and Chrome it's very stable and reconnections work flawlessly. Can't say for Palemoon.
Feb 21 06:03:25 <Bowjob>	i cant seem to get the sound working
Feb 21 06:03:41 <truffles>	bowjob didnt we say owls are best
Feb 21 06:03:51 <Namworld>	Palemoon must not support HTML5 audio tags
Feb 21 06:03:54 <Bowjob>	im an owl all right
Feb 21 06:03:57 <Bowjob>	3 am
Feb 21 06:04:06 <Bowjob>	gah i need a job
Feb 21 06:04:14 <truffles>	lol
Feb 21 06:04:17 <Bowjob>	not for money.. just for something to do
Feb 21 06:04:30 <truffles>	why else would u need one!
Feb 21 06:04:42 <Namworld>	You need a browser which supports HTML5 audio tags with mp3 or ogg formats.
Feb 21 06:04:47 <Bowjob>	my first job was for fun
Feb 21 06:04:51 <Bowjob>	I made 16 dollars an hour
Feb 21 06:04:55 <Bowjob>	in the name of fun
Feb 21 06:05:04 <truffles>	thats pretty sizeable
Feb 21 06:05:20 <truffles>	i need a job or i might get into trouble u know
Feb 21 06:05:21 <Bowjob>	yeah, i was surprised myself. my friends made like 10.25
Feb 21 06:05:21 <Bowjob>	ea
Feb 21 06:05:24 <Namworld>	How do you pay for things without a job?
Feb 21 06:05:35 <Bowjob>	I saved up quite a bit
Feb 21 06:05:39 <Bowjob>	and.. i dont have bills
Feb 21 06:05:41 <Namworld>	Ah, I see.
Feb 21 06:05:45 <truffles>	have other ppl pay ldo
Feb 21 06:05:53 <Bowjob>	so the whole thing is disposable income
Feb 21 06:05:59 <Bowjob>	thats how i can afford btcs, ect
Feb 21 06:06:12 <Bowjob>	the plan is to mine into retirement
Feb 21 06:06:16 <Bowjob>	im only 20 lol
Feb 21 06:06:22 <truffles>	lmao
Feb 21 06:06:24 <truffles>	gl with that
Feb 21 06:06:32 <Bowjob>	thanks :3
Feb 21 06:06:46 <Namworld>	I think that was sarcastic somehow...
Feb 21 06:06:46 <truffles>	anyways u have many years of slacking off
Feb 21 06:06:49 <Bowjob>	id have a better shot if I have the asics now damn
Feb 21 06:06:59 <truffles>	unless they want experience..
Feb 21 06:07:03 <Bowjob>	and i was entertaining his sarcasm
Feb 21 06:07:04 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 06:07:06 <Namworld>	I don't see mining into retirement as asomething feasible...
Feb 21 06:07:29 <Bowjob>	gah i want my job back now
Feb 21 06:07:29 <Namworld>	Why mine?
Feb 21 06:07:57 <Bowjob>	back then id go into fancy dinners
Feb 21 06:08:03 <Bowjob>	bills range from 100-200 dollars
Feb 21 06:08:04 <Bowjob>	damn
Feb 21 06:08:22 <Namworld>	Trade assets and do web work. It's quite fun.
Feb 21 06:08:34 <Bowjob>	i can do trading.. not web work tho
Feb 21 06:08:34 <truffles>	dollars per?
Feb 21 06:08:36 <Bowjob>	i cant do shit
Feb 21 06:08:41 <Bowjob>	per meal
Feb 21 06:08:43 <Bowjob>	^
Feb 21 06:08:49 <truffles>	craziness
Feb 21 06:08:54 <Bowjob>	I have a collection of reciepts from restaurants ive been
Feb 21 06:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20455 @ 0.00063647 = 13.019 BTC [-]
Feb 21 06:09:03 <truffles>	i could make that into 2 months
Feb 21 06:09:07 <Bowjob>	one of my more expensive ones, its from jan.. idk
Feb 21 06:09:07 <truffles>	nah
Feb 21 06:09:09 <Bowjob>	was 209 dollars
Feb 21 06:09:12 <Bowjob>	for 2
Feb 21 06:09:22 <Bowjob>	it was a 7 course dinner. delicious
Feb 21 06:09:50 <truffles>	the good life
Feb 21 06:10:00 <Bowjob>	http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2013/01/11/shokai-tasting-menu-at-miku-restaurant-vancouver/
Feb 21 06:10:04 <Bowjob>	here, ive been here
Feb 21 06:10:20 <Bowjob>	i got the reciept.. for my food porn collection
Feb 21 06:10:25 *	truffles is a food person
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Feb 21 06:10:50 <Bowjob>	then not even two weeks later, i went to this other place
Feb 21 06:10:57 <Bowjob>	170 for 2 this time
Feb 21 06:11:08 <Bowjob>	I was gonna spend 240, but the head chef wasnt there
Feb 21 06:11:13 <Bowjob>	so I settled with a smaller menu
Feb 21 06:11:25 <Bowjob>	that was probably my most expensive days
Feb 21 06:11:34 <truffles>	i might have to take that back im way too picky
Feb 21 06:11:41 <Bowjob>	second week of jan-first week of feb
Feb 21 06:11:46 <Bowjob>	crazy spending
Feb 21 06:11:50 <Bowjob>	i spent close to 1000
Feb 21 06:11:58 <Bowjob>	well.. I spent 1500 on an ASIC a couple days ago
Feb 21 06:12:01 <Bowjob>	damn
Feb 21 06:12:03 <Bowjob>	>_>
Feb 21 06:12:07 <truffles>	i rly dont like any seafood but fish
Feb 21 06:12:25 <Bowjob>	So idk. I can cook eggs and shit
Feb 21 06:12:42 <truffles>	sushi?
Feb 21 06:12:49 <Bowjob>	i cant cook sushi
Feb 21 06:12:52 <Bowjob>	or make sushi
Feb 21 06:12:59 <Bowjob>	but i can make fried eggs
Feb 21 06:13:00 <truffles>	do u eat it
Feb 21 06:13:00 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 06:13:02 <Bowjob>	yes
Feb 21 06:13:05 <Bowjob>	i love sushi
Feb 21 06:13:10 <truffles>	hate it
Feb 21 06:13:14 <truffles>	i can make lots of things
Feb 21 06:13:16 <Bowjob>	i pay quite a premium for high end sushi
Feb 21 06:13:28 <truffles>	if given some ingredients
Feb 21 06:13:28 <Bowjob>	i paid 209 for a sushi dinner
Feb 21 06:13:30 <Bowjob>	well..
Feb 21 06:13:41 <truffles>	why
Feb 21 06:13:43 <truffles>	lol
Feb 21 06:13:55 <Bowjob>	it had some endangered species
Feb 21 06:14:00 <Bowjob>	u had bluefin tuna before?
Feb 21 06:14:08 <Bowjob>	$15 for 2 pieces of nigiri
Feb 21 06:14:14 <Bowjob>	it was delicious
Feb 21 06:14:25 <truffles>	probably not
Feb 21 06:14:44 <Bowjob>	ive had some exotic fishes from that meal
Feb 21 06:14:48 <truffles>	miku stuff looks rly good
Feb 21 06:14:52 <Bowjob>	yeah it was
Feb 21 06:14:55 <Bowjob>	so good
Feb 21 06:15:14 <Bowjob>	the sablefish was a melt in your mouth kinda thing
Feb 21 06:15:29 <truffles>	dunno if id get full there though
Feb 21 06:15:46 <Bowjob>	i was full by the time i was done
Feb 21 06:15:59 <Bowjob>	i had some wagyu beef there as well
Feb 21 06:16:30 <Bowjob>	too bad it was from america.. otherwise the bill would be 400 dollars
Feb 21 06:16:46 <truffles>	i guess ud pay for $1,000 icecream made of gold?
Feb 21 06:17:00 <Bowjob>	the golden opulence?
Feb 21 06:17:01 <truffles>	with some gold flakes*
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Feb 21 06:17:11 <Bowjob>	nah, im more in it for how good the food is
Feb 21 06:17:22 <Bowjob>	that one.. id rather not pay for gold flakes
Feb 21 06:17:23 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 06:17:56 <truffles>	well i dunno how good it tastes
Feb 21 06:17:59 <Bowjob>	it wont taste any different..and the chocolate that they used.. it kinda ruins it since the flavour of the chocolate wont be fully enjoyed if its cold
Feb 21 06:18:00 <truffles>	its a small amount
Feb 21 06:18:24 <Bowjob>	well, ive had probably some of the best gelato in the world
Feb 21 06:19:11 <Bowjob>	theres this guy in vancouver.. hes canadian
Feb 21 06:19:19 <truffles>	thats something ive been wanting to make
Feb 21 06:19:27 <Bowjob>	he entered the annual gelato contest in italy
Feb 21 06:19:31 <Bowjob>	and beat the italians at their own game
Feb 21 06:19:42 <truffles>	canadian in vancouver hmmm
Feb 21 06:19:45 <Bowjob>	and thus, he got awarded the best gelato in the world
Feb 21 06:19:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00063647 = 4.1052 BTC [-]
Feb 21 06:19:54 <Bowjob>	by canadian i mean hes white lol
Feb 21 06:19:57 <Bowjob>	http://hummingbird604.com/2012/07/05/vancouverite-james-coleridge-wins-worlds-largest-gelato-competition-in-florence-italy/
Feb 21 06:20:06 <Bowjob>	I ate there at least 5 times
Feb 21 06:20:28 <Bowjob>	their 85% sorbetto got me on the hook right away
Feb 21 06:20:35 <Bowjob>	85% chocolate
Feb 21 06:21:18 <truffles>	looks rly simple
Feb 21 06:21:24 <Bowjob>	yes it does!
Feb 21 06:21:31 <truffles>	not impressed, would have to taste
Feb 21 06:21:55 <Bowjob>	the quality of the gelato is way up
Feb 21 06:22:13 <Bowjob>	actually thats probably sorbetto you're looking at
Feb 21 06:23:27 <Bowjob>	http://www.bellagelateria.com/graphics/pix/pg%20-%20ingredients-2b.jpg
Feb 21 06:23:44 <truffles>	that saying "time flys when you're having fun", u think thats true?
Feb 21 06:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00063647 = 4.9326 BTC [-]
Feb 21 06:24:04 <Bowjob>	sure
Feb 21 06:24:10 <Bowjob>	http://www.yelp.ca/biz/bella-gelateria-vancouver-2
Feb 21 06:24:30 <Bowjob>	people seem to love them. I really like his gelato. nomnom
Feb 21 06:24:58 <truffles>	the cones look good
Feb 21 06:25:28 <Bowjob>	they have unique flavours as well
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Feb 21 06:25:37 <Bowjob>	ever had lavander gelato??
Feb 21 06:25:44 <Bowjob>	or beer.. or earl grey
Feb 21 06:25:48 <Bowjob>	crazy stuff
Feb 21 06:26:10 <truffles>	uh no
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Feb 21 06:26:36 <truffles>	im gonna have to refrain from saying im a foody
Feb 21 06:27:11 <Bowjob>	he was hiring for 15 bucks an hour for a cashier.. i know hes packing
Feb 21 06:27:25 <truffles>	that seems high
Feb 21 06:27:27 <Bowjob>	i wanted to apply but its too far
Feb 21 06:27:43 <truffles>	value of canadian dollars
Feb 21 06:27:53 <Bowjob>	cad is worth a bit more than usd
Feb 21 06:28:01 <truffles>	no wai
Feb 21 06:28:12 <Bowjob>	well 1 cad is .98 usd
Feb 21 06:28:21 <Bowjob>	it was 1 cad 1.02 last time i checked
Feb 21 06:28:42 <truffles>	how much worse can the ussd get ...
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Feb 21 06:29:05 <Bowjob>	well, it used to be 1 cad = 1.25 usd
Feb 21 06:29:12 <Bowjob>	like when i was in high school
Feb 21 06:29:18 <truffles>	i remember it being way behind
Feb 21 06:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
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Feb 21 06:29:33 <truffles>	u mean like 2 years ago?
Feb 21 06:29:35 <truffles>	lol
Feb 21 06:29:39 <Bicknellski>	79 c on the 1
Feb 21 06:29:42 <Bicknellski>	before?
Feb 21 06:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob actually there's a lot of old media references. elaine (seinfeld) gets evicted for putting canadian quarters in the washing machines
Feb 21 06:30:04 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 21 06:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	used to be canadian dollars were this "inferior fake dollar" practically.
Feb 21 06:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that the usd is lower hurts a lot, im sure.
Feb 21 06:30:35 <Bowjob>	was it 2 years ago? it was  a bit before that
Feb 21 06:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that it's absolutely never mentioned proves it.
Feb 21 06:30:48 <truffles>	u said u were 20..
Feb 21 06:30:57 <Bowjob>	yeah i am
Feb 21 06:31:09 *	BitHub is proud owner of some MPOE shares
Feb 21 06:31:10 <BitHub>	:)
Feb 21 06:31:20 <Bicknellski>	Canadian Dollar used to be valued a lot more than us in the 50s I think
Feb 21 06:31:25 <Bicknellski>	up to the 60s
Feb 21 06:31:41 <truffles>	so howd it tank
Feb 21 06:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub well done.
Feb 21 06:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	Bicknellski o, was it ?
Feb 21 06:33:17 <Bicknellski>	On July 11, 1864, the Canadian dollar was worth $2.78 US.
Feb 21 06:33:23 <Bicknellski>	well not the 50s
Feb 21 06:33:30 <Bicknellski>	it was the `860s lol
Feb 21 06:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Feb 21 06:33:36 <Bicknellski>	1860s
Feb 21 06:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	yukon effect
Feb 21 06:33:50 <truffles>	civil war?
Feb 21 06:33:54 <Bicknellski>	before Canada was Canada
Feb 21 06:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	um no wait
Feb 21 06:34:07 <mircea_popescu>	1860 is too early for gold rush
Feb 21 06:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	was it because they were pegged tot he sterling ?
Feb 21 06:34:32 <Bicknellski>	50-year high of $1.0614 US set on August 21, 1957
Feb 21 06:34:39 <Bicknellski>	ya... so I remembered right
Feb 21 06:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	1.06 is hardly "a lot more" :D
Feb 21 06:34:54 <Bicknellski>	it was the 50s... my parents used to brag about it
Feb 21 06:34:56 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 06:35:03 <Bicknellski>	ya that is why I thought it was more
Feb 21 06:35:10 <Bicknellski>	most of my life it was sub 1s
Feb 21 06:35:13 <Bowjob>	Well, CAD was worth over 1 USD earlier this feb
Feb 21 06:35:24 <truffles>	sick brags
Feb 21 06:35:25 <Bowjob>	so greenback got some of it sbalue
Feb 21 06:35:30 <Bowjob>	*value
Feb 21 06:35:41 <Bicknellski>	We enjoy the lower dollar
Feb 21 06:35:57 <Bicknellski>	lots of Mericans love to come fishing with a cheap dollar
Feb 21 06:36:00 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 06:36:02 <Bowjob>	the us goods are actually cheaper than canadian ones..
Feb 21 06:36:08 <Bicknellski>	ya odd
Feb 21 06:36:12 <Bicknellski>	not meds
Feb 21 06:36:13 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 06:36:17 <truffles>	what is happening with the keystone pipeline?
Feb 21 06:36:21 <Bowjob>	I go to bellingham for cheap deals sometimes
Feb 21 06:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	ya, cheap dollar would help industry, if there were much left.
Feb 21 06:36:23 <Bicknellski>	not dead yet
Feb 21 06:36:38 <Bowjob>	Actually.. americans complained that Canadians borderhop just to shop
Feb 21 06:36:39 <Bicknellski>	we didnt have a lot of "industry"
Feb 21 06:36:41 <Bowjob>	and steal all the deals
Feb 21 06:36:48 <Bicknellski>	we sold off our resources mostly
Feb 21 06:36:50 <Bicknellski>	still do
Feb 21 06:36:52 <Chaang-Noi>	my family is involved in maufactoring in the usa, but there is not much left lol
Feb 21 06:36:55 <Bowjob>	irrc Americans complained about canadians taking milk from the US
Feb 21 06:37:03 <Bowjob>	with video proof
Feb 21 06:37:10 <Bicknellski>	weve been a service based economy for 20 or 30 years other than resources
Feb 21 06:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20375 @ 0.00063647 = 12.9681 BTC [-]
Feb 21 06:37:38 <Bicknellski>	Sold off in pieces... Mr. Noi
Feb 21 06:37:49 <Chaang-Noi>	1860 too early for goldrush? why are the 49ers called the 49ers??
Feb 21 06:37:57 <Bicknellski>	I love how detroit was basically boxed up and shipped to Mexico
Feb 21 06:37:59 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 06:38:02 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi the yukon gold rush not the california one
Feb 21 06:38:10 <Bicknellski>	diffent rush
Feb 21 06:38:17 <Bicknellski>	there was the california one
Feb 21 06:38:22 <Bicknellski>	Yukon was later
Feb 21 06:38:27 <Bicknellski>	if I am not mistaken
Feb 21 06:38:40 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Feb 21 06:38:55 <Chaang-Noi>	that is what i get for reading a wall of text in 30 seconds
Feb 21 06:38:59 <Bicknellski>	Other minor ones as well
Feb 21 06:39:00 <Bowjob>	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/13/bellingham-costco-canadians-cheap-milk_n_1773495.html#slide=1374749
Feb 21 06:39:21 <Bowjob>	hah. I want you guys to note that those people who hounded the milk.. are Indo canadians
Feb 21 06:39:30 <Bowjob>	they seem to hog all the milk. even here
Feb 21 06:39:30 <Bicknellski>	Indo?
Feb 21 06:39:34 <Bowjob>	like indians
Feb 21 06:39:34 <Bicknellski>	Indonesia?
Feb 21 06:39:36 <Bowjob>	no
Feb 21 06:39:39 <Bicknellski>	or our brothers.
Feb 21 06:39:39 <Bowjob>	indian indians
Feb 21 06:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	i love milk.
Feb 21 06:39:42 <Bowjob>	the red dot indians
Feb 21 06:39:48 <Bicknellski>	the IDLE NO MORE!
Feb 21 06:39:49 <Bowjob>	not the feather indians
Feb 21 06:39:51 <Bowjob>	red dot
Feb 21 06:40:00 <Bicknellski>	oh our brothers from India
Feb 21 06:40:00 <Bowjob>	think of dhalsim
Feb 21 06:40:00 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 06:40:13 <Bowjob>	they buy carfuls of milk all the time
Feb 21 06:40:14 <Bicknellski>	Nice good on them
Feb 21 06:40:21 <Bicknellski>	smart
Feb 21 06:40:27 <Bicknellski>	just like we did with gas
Feb 21 06:40:30 <Bicknellski>	and clothes
Feb 21 06:40:31 <Bicknellski>	etc
Feb 21 06:40:38 <Bicknellski>	in Montreal or Niagra
Feb 21 06:40:39 <truffles>	milk's not that good for u
Feb 21 06:40:42 <Bicknellski>	... smokes mostly
Feb 21 06:40:43 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 06:40:47 <Bowjob>	they seem to like milk a lot so
Feb 21 06:40:48 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 06:40:51 <Bicknellski>	ya it aint for adults
Feb 21 06:40:56 <Bicknellski>	GHEE!
Feb 21 06:41:03 <Bicknellski>	cooking with it all the time
Feb 21 06:41:07 <Bowjob>	hey brown food is pretty good
Feb 21 06:41:10 <Bowjob>	i like butter chicken
Feb 21 06:41:14 <Bicknellski>	hard to get coconut milk
Feb 21 06:41:22 <Bicknellski>	so they have to sub in real cow.
Feb 21 06:41:41 <Bicknellski>	I drink coconut milk... mostly.
Feb 21 06:41:45 <Bicknellski>	cheap here
Feb 21 06:41:47 <truffles>	http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/us/transcanada-in-eminent-domain-fight-over-pipeline.html
Feb 21 06:41:48 <Bowjob>	dont indians get queasy if they see cow meat
Feb 21 06:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136104976652.jpg
Feb 21 06:41:55 <Bicknellski>	Hindus
Feb 21 06:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	why does that look like it won't end well.
Feb 21 06:42:00 <truffles>	are canadians in favor of this
Feb 21 06:42:01 <Bicknellski>	it is a no no
Feb 21 06:42:06 <Bicknellski>	taboo...
Feb 21 06:42:23 <Bicknellski>	many Indians are vegans...
Feb 21 06:42:33 <Bicknellski>	vegetarians
Feb 21 06:42:38 <Bicknellski>	good eats...
Feb 21 06:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bicknellski i have it in confidence that it only happens because they can't afford it.
Feb 21 06:42:44 <Bicknellski>	Love Indian food
Feb 21 06:42:50 <mircea_popescu>	from this chick that came to college here. used to be vegan at home.
Feb 21 06:42:55 <truffles>	lots of misinformation itc
Feb 21 06:43:02 <Bicknellski>	you can sure peg 1 billion people?
Feb 21 06:43:07 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Feb 21 06:43:08 <Bicknellski>	sorry 800 million
Feb 21 06:43:09 <Bicknellski>	?
Feb 21 06:43:14 <Bowjob>	well.. lets see
Feb 21 06:43:20 <truffles>	lol at vegan being cheaper
Feb 21 06:43:21 <Bicknellski>	ya I am sure some actually follow their restrictions
Feb 21 06:43:39 <Bicknellski>	lumping in 800 million pretty tall order
Feb 21 06:43:41 <Bowjob>	indians here are mostly taxi drivers, and gang bangers
Feb 21 06:43:47 <Bicknellski>	nice mix
Feb 21 06:43:53 <mircea_popescu>	same thing with arabs. they don't drink alcohol ? when i visited egypt i could buy any imported alcohol at the duty free shop.
Feb 21 06:44:01 <truffles>	gang bangers rly??
Feb 21 06:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	what anyone in egypt whanted from white people is to buy them alcohol
Feb 21 06:44:10 <Bowjob>	yes i kid you not. look up surrey
Feb 21 06:44:21 <mircea_popescu>	it was like being in a junior high the side of a country.
Feb 21 06:44:22 <Bicknellski>	Like Americans love democracy then crush democracy at every turn
Feb 21 06:44:29 <Bicknellski>	lots of hypocrisy in the world
Feb 21 06:44:30 <truffles>	does not seem possible to me. so weird
Feb 21 06:44:30 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 06:44:44 <Bicknellski>	called being human...
Feb 21 06:45:14 <Bicknellski>	One "race" doesnt corner the market on hypocrisy
Feb 21 06:45:23 <truffles>	canada is basically same as US so..
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Feb 21 06:45:29 <mircea_popescu>	the us people are a race nao ?!
Feb 21 06:45:30 <Bicknellski>	Lived abroad in Asia for 17 years now...
Feb 21 06:45:36 <Bicknellski>	pretty much the same people here
Feb 21 06:45:39 <Bicknellski>	some lie
Feb 21 06:45:41 <Bicknellski>	some steal
Feb 21 06:45:44 <Bicknellski>	many work hard
Feb 21 06:45:49 <truffles>	i meant in policy
Feb 21 06:46:03 <Bicknellski>	The ones that run US policy are
Feb 21 06:46:12 <Bicknellski>	... typically WASPish
Feb 21 06:46:32 <truffles>	wasps must be killed
Feb 21 06:46:44 <Bicknellski>	Doesnt matter where you live most populations have their hypocrites
Feb 21 06:46:53 <Bicknellski>	... show me a place that doesnt
Feb 21 06:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	ugh... did you see a recent pic of the us president ?
Feb 21 06:46:58 <Bicknellski>	...Ill move there
Feb 21 06:46:59 <truffles>	including internet chatrooms
Feb 21 06:47:02 <Bowjob>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Vancouver_gang_war
Feb 21 06:47:16 <Bowjob>	Over a quarter of gangs are indians
Feb 21 06:47:28 <Bicknellski>	Used to be Native and Bikers
Feb 21 06:47:32 <Bicknellski>	that was fun
Feb 21 06:47:35 <Bicknellski>	and the Chinese
Feb 21 06:47:47 <Bicknellski>	.... floating heads in the ocean in the 90s
Feb 21 06:47:54 <truffles>	clearly canada isnt so warm and fuzzy like they make it seem
Feb 21 06:47:54 <Bicknellski>	if I remember
Feb 21 06:47:57 <Chaang-Noi>	<Bicknellski> where in asia?
Feb 21 06:47:58 <Bicknellski>	LOL
Feb 21 06:48:14 <Bicknellski>	Canada is neither WARM or FUZZY
Feb 21 06:48:19 <Bicknellski>	we have great PR
Feb 21 06:48:27 <Bicknellski>	Indonesia right now Mr. Noi
Feb 21 06:48:32 <Chaang-Noi>	cool
Feb 21 06:48:35 <Chaang-Noi>	thailand here
Feb 21 06:48:35 <Bicknellski>	... been to Thailand LOVED IT
Feb 21 06:48:36 <truffles>	oh wait, theyre blaming Mexico for their problems up there in canada
Feb 21 06:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	wait, you two both live in aha.
Feb 21 06:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 21 06:48:52 <Bicknellski>	Ya... lol
Feb 21 06:49:04 <Bicknellski>	not poverty or the fact that unions are gone etc
Feb 21 06:49:11 <Bicknellski>	it is the mexicans
Feb 21 06:49:15 <Bicknellski>	not Free Trade
Feb 21 06:49:26 <truffles>	darn mexicans ruin everything!
Feb 21 06:49:28 <Bicknellski>	or Brian Mulroney and Dipshit Harper
Feb 21 06:49:29 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 06:49:32 <Bicknellski>	cripes
Feb 21 06:49:45 <Bicknellski>	People in mexico work 2x as hard for 100x less
Feb 21 06:50:00 <Bicknellski>	Try to get a Canadian to work on tree farm
Feb 21 06:50:15 <Bowjob>	id do it for the right pay
Feb 21 06:50:17 <Bowjob>	>:)
Feb 21 06:50:17 <truffles>	easy
Feb 21 06:50:19 <Bicknellski>	They have to hire in people from Jamaica... Canadians wont last a week
Feb 21 06:50:27 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 06:50:30 <Bicknellski>	ya you would.
Feb 21 06:50:53 <Bicknellski>	but guess what... all the jobs in Canada and US are going to be not the right pay...
Feb 21 06:50:56 <Bicknellski>	give it time
Feb 21 06:51:01 <Bowjob>	lets scale it up. i get $16 an hour for my cushy job
Feb 21 06:51:05 <Bicknellski>	you wont even be able to hide in a teaching job
Feb 21 06:51:08 <Bicknellski>	and get a pension
Feb 21 06:51:28 <truffles>	thats already a reality
Feb 21 06:51:31 <Bicknellski>	You guys in the tech field... have it made
Feb 21 06:51:40 <Bicknellski>	if you have the skills
Feb 21 06:51:43 <Bicknellski>	they want you
Feb 21 06:52:00 <truffles>	pfff doubt theyll use it
Feb 21 06:52:11 <truffles>	just gonna sit in some lab prob watching porn
Feb 21 06:52:16 <Bicknellski>	NICE
Feb 21 06:52:21 <Bicknellski>	great job if you can get it
Feb 21 06:52:26 <Bicknellski>	hahaha
Feb 21 06:52:35 <Bicknellski>	You not in the states Noi?
Feb 21 06:52:44 <Bicknellski>	You hanging out in Bangkok?
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Feb 21 06:53:03 <Bicknellski>	Man I thought Jakarta was bad... but Bangkok...
Feb 21 06:53:04 <Chaang-Noi>	bought my girl a new laptop, has touch and windows 8, really fucking weird
Feb 21 06:53:09 <Bicknellski>	Not sure which is worse
Feb 21 06:53:15 <Chaang-Noi>	its like a iPad
Feb 21 06:53:18 <Chaang-Noi>	an
Feb 21 06:53:19 <Bicknellski>	ya sucks eh.
Feb 21 06:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bicknellski what's wrong with jakarta ?
Feb 21 06:53:40 <Bicknellski>	GOOD GOD
Feb 21 06:53:44 <Chaang-Noi>	well, it seems like a nice toy for her, and she likes it, i dont think i could ever use it for doing other than fucking around though
Feb 21 06:53:47 <Bicknellski>	what is right
Feb 21 06:53:51 <Bicknellski>	3 words
Feb 21 06:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol that dun help me much
Feb 21 06:53:56 <Bicknellski>	FLOODS
Feb 21 06:53:57 <Bicknellski>	HOT
Feb 21 06:53:58 <Bicknellski>	JAMMED
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Feb 21 06:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	o boy. ok.
Feb 21 06:54:07 <Bowjob>	fucking around with an ipad like device
Feb 21 06:54:08 <Bowjob>	kinky
Feb 21 06:54:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont live and almost never go to bkk, lol
Feb 21 06:54:13 <Bicknellski>	the infrastructure is 1900s
Feb 21 06:54:21 <Bicknellski>	ya nice...
Feb 21 06:54:22 <truffles>	jurvou would like that
Feb 21 06:54:31 <Bicknellski>	ChangMai... is nice
Feb 21 06:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bicknellski 1900s, you mean sorta like ny ?
Feb 21 06:54:36 <Bicknellski>	or head south
Feb 21 06:54:41 <Bicknellski>	No lot worse
Feb 21 06:54:51 <lyspooner>	that would be an advance in infrastructure for romania
Feb 21 06:54:54 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, when i go to bkk i almost always fly in or out, and while their take the sky train (subway in the sky)
Feb 21 06:54:55 <lyspooner>	sounds ok
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Feb 21 06:54:58 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner how would you know ? :D
Feb 21 06:55:04 <Bicknellski>	imagine all the old 50s and 60s electrical infrastructure sold to Indonesia
Feb 21 06:55:14 <Bicknellski>	and now they are struggling to replace it
Feb 21 06:55:16 <mircea_popescu>	no need to imagine lol, it's what happened
Feb 21 06:55:19 <Chaang-Noi>	1900's what part of bkk where you in, lol
Feb 21 06:55:25 <Bicknellski>	the old dutch system of levees and dykes
Feb 21 06:55:35 <Bicknellski>	one huge cesspit here when it rains
Feb 21 06:55:49 <truffles>	ewww
Feb 21 06:55:53 <Bicknellski>	and then throw in about 20 million people?
Feb 21 06:56:03 <Bicknellski>	and the only thing that works right
Feb 21 06:56:07 <Bicknellski>	the Bus system
Feb 21 06:56:23 <Bicknellski>	that they jerry rigged into the center of the city for a few million
Feb 21 06:56:27 <truffles>	move?
Feb 21 06:56:39 <Bicknellski>	which took 2 lanes of traffic off the main roads
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Feb 21 06:56:44 <Bicknellski>	they work
Feb 21 06:56:46 <Chaang-Noi>	what city are you talking about bicknellski?
Feb 21 06:56:50 <Bicknellski>	but the JAMS it causes lol
Feb 21 06:56:52 <Bicknellski>	Jakarta
Feb 21 06:56:58 <Chaang-Noi>	okay,
Feb 21 06:57:01 <Bicknellski>	... Bangkok I heard is a lot better
Feb 21 06:57:01 <truffles>	oh
Feb 21 06:57:02 <Bicknellski>	now
Feb 21 06:57:05 <Bicknellski>	with they train
Feb 21 06:57:10 <truffles>	just get air conditioning
Feb 21 06:57:12 <Bicknellski>	they took 20? yers
Feb 21 06:57:20 <Bicknellski>	years for that one
Feb 21 06:57:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i ahve been here 8 years and they have always had the train when i was here
Feb 21 06:57:42 <Bicknellski>	Ya gotta have the AC
Feb 21 06:57:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i have never had AC in anyplace i have lived
Feb 21 06:58:01 <Bicknellski>	Im alright though out in the Burbs of Jakarta
Feb 21 06:58:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont have it now either, did not even need it for my gpu farm :/
Feb 21 06:58:11 <Bicknellski>	ya you are the real deal
Feb 21 06:58:20 <Bicknellski>	... I cant live in Canada anymore
Feb 21 06:58:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i do however never live in the city, so that helps a lot
Feb 21 06:58:33 <Bicknellski>	and I cant acclimatize to Jakarta
Feb 21 06:58:38 <truffles>	i was just gonna ask
Feb 21 06:58:48 <truffles>	why move from sick brags canada for that
Feb 21 06:58:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i have windows open all the time, and lots of windows
Feb 21 06:58:56 <Chaang-Noi>	also fans off and on
Feb 21 06:59:02 <Bicknellski>	too cold in June in Ontario and Vancouver for me this summer
Feb 21 06:59:10 <Bicknellski>	the heat wave was a joke
Feb 21 06:59:21 <Bicknellski>	little humidity compared to here
Feb 21 06:59:25 <Bowjob>	just move to bahamas
Feb 21 06:59:27 <Bowjob>	find satoshi
Feb 21 06:59:42 <Bicknellski>	Do you mine BTC as well Mr. Noi?
Feb 21 07:00:06 <Chaang-Noi>	not right now, i did
Feb 21 07:00:10 <Bicknellski>	I was thinking about it... but the heat
Feb 21 07:00:14 <Bicknellski>	be a real problem
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Feb 21 07:00:17 <Chaang-Noi>	hold some asicminer stock if that counts
Feb 21 07:00:24 <Bicknellski>	hahaha
Feb 21 07:00:27 <Bicknellski>	I saw
Feb 21 07:00:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i had like 25 ghash at one point
Feb 21 07:00:45 <Bicknellski>	... making some return on your I for the shares you pawned in the forums
Feb 21 07:00:46 <Bicknellski>	nice
Feb 21 07:01:07 <truffles>	u guys are clearly rich but move to countries u dont enjoy what gives!
Feb 21 07:01:18 <Bicknellski>	LOVE
Feb 21 07:01:24 <truffles>	rich = can move anywhere
Feb 21 07:01:28 <Bicknellski>	I teach so I am satisfied
Feb 21 07:01:41 <Bicknellski>	and I can go golfing anytime I like if the rain aint to heavy
Feb 21 07:01:47 <Bicknellski>	... beach? hmmm not too far
Feb 21 07:01:54 <Bicknellski>	Bali only 90 mins
Feb 21 07:01:58 <Bicknellski>	etc
Feb 21 07:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063606 = 2.7484 BTC [-]
Feb 21 07:02:01 <Chaang-Noi>	i like thailand, and im not that rich
Feb 21 07:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 239 @ 0.000636 = 0.152 BTC [-]
Feb 21 07:02:05 <Bicknellski>	always a trade off
Feb 21 07:02:18 <truffles>	i wonder if they executed the british grandma for smuggling in bali yet
Feb 21 07:02:35 <Bicknellski>	I wasnt born here... Mr. Noi probably would find US a pain in the ass compared to the convenience of Thailand
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Feb 21 07:02:53 <Bicknellski>	here  (Canada)
Feb 21 07:02:56 <Bicknellski>	there... I guess
Feb 21 07:03:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i do find the USA to be a pain in the ass
Feb 21 07:03:08 <Bicknellski>	No?
Feb 21 07:03:19 <truffles>	US sucks
Feb 21 07:03:20 <Bicknellski>	can you get a good lemon grass soup?
Feb 21 07:03:25 <Chaang-Noi>	they take all meh freedomz
Feb 21 07:03:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know if i could or not:)
Feb 21 07:04:03 <Bicknellski>	Guess there would be enough good Thai places to eat...
Feb 21 07:04:07 <Bicknellski>	but never the same
Feb 21 07:04:27 <Bicknellski>	Like I used to live in Korea and I do miss a good kalbi soup
Feb 21 07:04:37 <Bicknellski>	or kimchi done the right way
Feb 21 07:04:42 <Chaang-Noi>	my wife cooks most of the time
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Feb 21 07:05:10 <truffles>	what style of food
Feb 21 07:05:10 <Bicknellski>	Asia is a great place for expats...
Feb 21 07:05:26 <Bicknellski>	once you get your head around you aint in Kansas no more...
Feb 21 07:05:39 <Bicknellski>	You have to blend and go with the flow...
Feb 21 07:05:48 <truffles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS683G2vM4w : Lindsay Sandiford Drug smuggling British grandmother faces countdown to execution in Bali
Feb 21 07:05:54 <Bicknellski>	and it is very easy to live in most countries here
Feb 21 07:06:04 <truffles>	im annoyed she gets to cover her face
Feb 21 07:06:11 <Bicknellski>	They didn't pay off the judges I guess
Feb 21 07:06:34 <Bicknellski>	usually they send people back to UK or AUS for the last year or two of a sentence.
Feb 21 07:06:48 <Bicknellski>	even in death cases
Feb 21 07:06:50 <truffles>	she had too much on her maybe
Feb 21 07:06:56 <Bicknellski>	ya obviously
Feb 21 07:06:59 <Bicknellski>	idiot
Feb 21 07:07:06 <truffles>	lol
Feb 21 07:07:07 <Bicknellski>	You dont play in Asia
Feb 21 07:07:18 <Bicknellski>	dont care if you are a granny or not
Feb 21 07:07:21 <truffles>	playing up the grandma card
Feb 21 07:07:23 <Bicknellski>	you know the risk
Feb 21 07:07:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.0948 BTC [+]
Feb 21 07:07:44 <Bicknellski>	Cripes they target the touristas in Bali
Feb 21 07:07:45 <Bicknellski>	for that
Feb 21 07:07:59 <Bicknellski>	... you don't buy drugs there either...
Feb 21 07:08:12 <truffles>	why not
Feb 21 07:08:20 <Bicknellski>	not a good situation indonesian jail
Feb 21 07:08:35 <Bicknellski>	... well the cops or locals can work together to set people up
Feb 21 07:08:50 <Bicknellski>	and to get off the charge you have to pay a bit amount
Feb 21 07:09:05 <truffles>	i saw this one movie where in some asian jail roaches hatched in ears...
Feb 21 07:09:11 <truffles>	terrified
Feb 21 07:09:12 <Bicknellski>	eww
Feb 21 07:09:20 <Bicknellski>	crap that can happen in your house
Feb 21 07:09:24 <Bicknellski>	not just jail
Feb 21 07:09:30 <truffles>	lets not think about that
Feb 21 07:09:46 <Bicknellski>	You have to get used to living with insects and geckos inside your home
Feb 21 07:09:53 <Bicknellski>	sometimes a big rat as well
Feb 21 07:09:56 <truffles>	kill on sight
Feb 21 07:10:11 <Bicknellski>	turn on the light at night in the kitchen...
Feb 21 07:10:15 <Bicknellski>	be PREPARED!
Feb 21 07:10:19 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:10:27 <Bicknellski>	I hated earwigs as kid
Feb 21 07:10:41 <Bicknellski>	imagine me with a 3 inch cockroach staring me down
Feb 21 07:10:45 <Bicknellski>	Ya!!!!!
Feb 21 07:10:47 <truffles>	wow
Feb 21 07:10:54 <Bicknellski>	Scream like a girl
Feb 21 07:10:57 <Bicknellski>	and it FLIES
Feb 21 07:11:00 <truffles>	ya
Feb 21 07:11:00 <Bicknellski>	Awwww
Feb 21 07:11:03 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:11:07 <Bicknellski>	ya... ask Noi.
Feb 21 07:11:17 <Bicknellski>	bet they have there too in Thailand
Feb 21 07:11:20 <truffles>	id just kill it though
Feb 21 07:11:27 <Bicknellski>	... I love the Giant spiders in the trees
Feb 21 07:11:42 <truffles>	id get a broom for the spider
Feb 21 07:11:45 <Bicknellski>	insects everywhere
Feb 21 07:12:08 <Bicknellski>	living in the land of perpetual summer is great
Feb 21 07:13:04 <truffles>	is there anywhere that is always spring?
Feb 21 07:13:21 <Bicknellski>	hmmm
Feb 21 07:13:21 <truffles>	or similiar to in temp.
Feb 21 07:13:25 <Bicknellski>	ya... go high enough here
Feb 21 07:13:28 <Bicknellski>	it is like that
Feb 21 07:13:30 <Bicknellski>	alpine
Feb 21 07:13:39 <Bicknellski>	tropical highlands
Feb 21 07:13:41 <truffles>	my ideal place
Feb 21 07:13:45 <Bicknellski>	just about an hour from here
Feb 21 07:13:54 <truffles>	but nah
Feb 21 07:14:03 <Bicknellski>	Temp is 22 to 23 at night
Feb 21 07:14:25 <Bicknellski>	and... 26 to 28 C daytime
Feb 21 07:14:33 <Bicknellski>	it is nice
Feb 21 07:14:42 <Bicknellski>	have to wear a light jacket
Feb 21 07:14:47 <Bicknellski>	... perfect
Feb 21 07:14:51 <Bicknellski>	year round...
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Feb 21 07:15:10 <truffles>	http://tfallspestcontrol.com/images/earwig/earwig_full.jpg thats kinda cute
Feb 21 07:15:38 <Bicknellski>	have one drop in your popcorn watching twilight zone
Feb 21 07:15:45 <Bicknellski>	and then scream
Feb 21 07:15:48 <Bicknellski>	like a girl
Feb 21 07:16:04 <truffles>	then kill it!
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Feb 21 07:16:09 <truffles>	its not that cute
Feb 21 07:16:16 <Bicknellski>	ya... after I stop screaming
Feb 21 07:16:19 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:17:09 <Bicknellski>	First time you see a monkey in the trees that is when you know you have moved a distance away from your home
Feb 21 07:17:44 <truffles>	animals are so much better than humans
Feb 21 07:18:04 <truffles>	maybe when im ancient
Feb 21 07:18:36 <truffles>	move to madagascar or something
Feb 21 07:18:37 <Bicknellski>	We could be good... just have to throw away all our modern crap
Feb 21 07:18:48 <Bicknellski>	... naw
Feb 21 07:18:50 <Bicknellski>	nevermind
Feb 21 07:18:51 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:18:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15761 @ 0.000636 = 10.024 BTC [-]
Feb 21 07:18:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17688 @ 0.00063592 = 11.2482 BTC [-]
Feb 21 07:19:12 <Bicknellski>	Not much left there either
Feb 21 07:19:18 <truffles>	in my experience lots of good out there
Feb 21 07:19:21 <Bicknellski>	cut most of the forest down
Feb 21 07:19:24 <truffles>	on the internet ppl so mean
Feb 21 07:19:26 <Bicknellski>	... same here in Indonesia
Feb 21 07:19:31 <Bicknellski>	fast losing it
Feb 21 07:19:39 <Bicknellski>	better go travel it before it is gone
Feb 21 07:19:56 <truffles>	:(
Feb 21 07:20:13 <Bicknellski>	Ya sad.
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Feb 21 07:20:50 <Bicknellski>	Alaska is pretty much intacted
Feb 21 07:20:53 <Bicknellski>	amazingly
Feb 21 07:21:04 <truffles>	prob too col
Feb 21 07:21:05 <truffles>	d
Feb 21 07:21:08 <Bicknellski>	summer
Feb 21 07:21:10 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:21:24 <Bicknellski>	blackflies and bears WOOT
Feb 21 07:22:19 <truffles>	how many times have u asked for directions and they were incorrect ones?
Feb 21 07:22:37 <truffles>	very few, ppl just wanna help many times
Feb 21 07:22:42 <Bicknellski>	http://artofmanliness.com/trunk/441/alone-in-the-wilderness/  <--- if I had grown up in the bush... I would do this for my last 20 years
Feb 21 07:23:14 <Bicknellski>	I am a man men don't ask for directions
Feb 21 07:23:18 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:23:33 <truffles>	not exactly manly myself
Feb 21 07:23:43 <truffles>	but i think id make it at least a few days
Feb 21 07:24:14 <Bicknellski>	I watch the full length video of that
Feb 21 07:24:19 <Bicknellski>	it is awesome
Feb 21 07:24:49 <truffles>	dunno if something like that would be possible in 20+ years
Feb 21 07:25:08 <Bicknellski>	he did for 30
Feb 21 07:25:12 <Bicknellski>	holy crap
Feb 21 07:25:21 <Bicknellski>	51... to 80
Feb 21 07:25:27 <Bicknellski>	man what a rock
Feb 21 07:26:01 <Bicknellski>	no power tools
Feb 21 07:26:03 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:26:06 <Bicknellski>	sheesh
Feb 21 07:26:12 <truffles>	biometric ones?
Feb 21 07:26:51 <truffles>	omg at not using gloves for sawing
Feb 21 07:26:56 <Bicknellski>	NOPE
Feb 21 07:27:05 <Bicknellski>	find the video and download it
Feb 21 07:27:12 <Bicknellski>	it is awesome
Feb 21 07:27:18 <Bicknellski>	you can go and visit the cabin
Feb 21 07:27:24 <truffles>	nah
Feb 21 07:27:42 <Bicknellski>	it is maintain by the parks service I think
Feb 21 07:28:48 <truffles>	what happens if its on top of oil and they need to drill pipeline through it
Feb 21 07:28:57 <truffles>	and it spills ..
Feb 21 07:29:15 <Bicknellski>	it goes
Feb 21 07:29:27 <Bicknellski>	not like you can maintain it forever...
Feb 21 07:29:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13804 @ 0.00063592 = 8.7782 BTC [-]
Feb 21 07:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063311 = 3.1656 BTC [-]
Feb 21 07:29:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43967 @ 0.0006331 = 27.8355 BTC [-]
Feb 21 07:29:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9829 @ 0.00063234 = 6.2153 BTC [-]
Feb 21 07:30:26 <truffles>	where was he sleeping while building
Feb 21 07:30:57 <Bicknellski>	two cabins
Feb 21 07:31:11 <Bicknellski>	one was already there his buddies I guess or another oldtimer
Feb 21 07:32:49 <truffles>	weird he'd do it solo then
Feb 21 07:34:27 <truffles>	that was way more interesting than a tv show i just watched..
Feb 21 07:34:44 <Bicknellski>	I know eh... REALITY TV before REALITY TV
Feb 21 07:36:19 <truffles>	"He was weak,no white man should attempt this,the original people are made for this,leave their lands alone" haha
Feb 21 07:37:48 <Bicknellski>	true that
Feb 21 07:37:55 <Bicknellski>	... were ill equipped
Feb 21 07:38:06 <Bicknellski>	but that is why we have 7 billion...
Feb 21 07:38:55 <jurov>	well, i know people who do it like that here, myself helped to build a cabin (only power tool was the chainsaw to chop down the trees, axes from that on for everything)
Feb 21 07:39:08 <jurov>	milked the goats, lol
Feb 21 07:39:13 <Bicknellski>	when that video was made... 3,556,946,153 	
Feb 21 07:39:28 <truffles>	i kinda want to milk something cow or goat
Feb 21 07:39:30 <Bicknellski>	hahaa
Feb 21 07:39:37 <Bicknellski>	meh...
Feb 21 07:39:46 <Bicknellski>	why bother ...
Feb 21 07:40:15 <Bicknellski>	I mean that is whole point... we dont have to anymore...
Feb 21 07:40:15 <truffles>	fresh milk
Feb 21 07:40:19 <Bicknellski>	pfft
Feb 21 07:40:26 <Bicknellski>	unpasteurized
Feb 21 07:40:29 <Bicknellski>	good luck
Feb 21 07:40:45 <truffles>	its not gonna give me herpes
Feb 21 07:40:50 <Bicknellski>	mind you I have had whole milk before
Feb 21 07:40:54 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:40:57 <jurov>	lol, ur mom fed you unpasteurized milk
Feb 21 07:41:01 <Bicknellski>	less you having sex with the goat
Feb 21 07:41:02 <jurov>	at least i hope
Feb 21 07:41:04 <Bicknellski>	... or cow
Feb 21 07:41:06 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:41:18 <Bicknellski>	Did she ?
Feb 21 07:41:25 <Bicknellski>	are you sure I wasnt bottle fed?
Feb 21 07:41:28 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:42:14 <Bicknellski>	I prefer the modern world in many ways over the ancient
Feb 21 07:42:22 <Bicknellski>	... just a lot easier to live
Feb 21 07:42:25 <Bicknellski>	I like that
Feb 21 07:42:41 <truffles>	id like to grow my own food
Feb 21 07:42:43 <Bicknellski>	dentistry
Feb 21 07:42:47 <Bicknellski>	especially
Feb 21 07:42:55 <Bicknellski>	you grow it all?
Feb 21 07:42:55 <truffles>	wont need them
Feb 21 07:43:02 <Bicknellski>	every last thing you eat?
Feb 21 07:43:06 <truffles>	yea
Feb 21 07:43:10 <Bicknellski>	wow nice
Feb 21 07:43:15 <truffles>	i would like to
Feb 21 07:43:24 <Bicknellski>	oh... so no
Feb 21 07:43:24 <truffles>	too poor for that
Feb 21 07:43:34 <Bicknellski>	ya... making your own bread be a bitch
Feb 21 07:43:39 <Bicknellski>	get the wheat
Feb 21 07:43:42 <Bicknellski>	grind it up
Feb 21 07:43:45 <Bicknellski>	etc etc
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Feb 21 07:43:54 <Bicknellski>	few people live like that today
Feb 21 07:43:56 <Bicknellski>	very few
Feb 21 07:44:09 <truffles>	id have a system
Feb 21 07:44:18 <truffles>	monsanto products scare me
Feb 21 07:44:20 <Bicknellski>	You need some space
Feb 21 07:44:24 <Bicknellski>	ya they should
Feb 21 07:44:41 <Bicknellski>	... bastards giving farmers crops that can't reseed
Feb 21 07:44:52 <Bicknellski>	that is just tip of the iceberg
Feb 21 07:45:18 <truffles>	i hope they have a special supply for themselves
Feb 21 07:45:22 <Bicknellski>	is it 420 selling heirloom veggie seeds for bitcoin?
Feb 21 07:45:46 <Bicknellski>	ya youd hate to think if the seed all failed what do you do then?
Feb 21 07:46:06 <truffles>	eat fish
Feb 21 07:46:21 <Bicknellski>	If I had more space I'd do more hydroponics
Feb 21 07:46:37 <Bicknellski>	we had a small fish and veggie set up at my last school
Feb 21 07:46:52 <Bicknellski>	got a few fish and lots of tomatoes and lettuce from it
Feb 21 07:47:00 <truffles>	i was leaning towards a greenhouse
Feb 21 07:47:06 <Bicknellski>	pretty efficient
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Feb 21 07:47:20 <Bicknellski>	did a year course on that
Feb 21 07:47:34 <Bicknellski>	... lots of issues with it
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Feb 21 07:47:43 <Bicknellski>	but doable
Feb 21 07:47:55 <Bicknellski>	use some miners to heat it
Feb 21 07:47:56 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:48:18 <jurov>	hehe
Feb 21 07:49:13 <truffles>	havent eaten a salade in a while, guess thats on my list this week
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Feb 21 07:49:41 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 21 07:49:44 <Bicknellski>	this week lol
Feb 21 07:49:47 <Bicknellski>	cripes
Feb 21 07:49:54 <Bicknellski>	dude 1 a day or more
Feb 21 07:49:57 <Bicknellski>	hahaha
Feb 21 07:50:15 <truffles>	u mean cuz its thursday
Feb 21 07:50:28 <Bicknellski>	man... get some veg in ya
Feb 21 07:50:34 <Bicknellski>	everyday
Feb 21 07:50:54 <truffles>	i dont like it that much
Feb 21 07:51:07 <Bicknellski>	get fresh stuff
Feb 21 07:51:10 <truffles>	fruit meat
Feb 21 07:51:44 <Bicknellski>	I eat salad twice a day... still a fat fuck.
Feb 21 07:51:44 <truffles>	the hydrophonics pics just added cravings..
Feb 21 07:51:51 <truffles>	lol
Feb 21 07:52:04 <truffles>	well i could lose a few
Feb 21 07:52:05 <Bicknellski>	... damn cereal
Feb 21 07:52:18 <Bicknellski>	it aint the meat it is bread that gets me
Feb 21 07:52:25 <truffles>	cereal is gone from my diet
Feb 21 07:52:31 <Bicknellski>	ya that is good
Feb 21 07:52:38 <Bicknellski>	terrible for ya
Feb 21 07:52:38 <truffles>	love bread
Feb 21 07:52:57 <Bicknellski>	bread is also a nasty one
Feb 21 07:53:05 <Bicknellski>	too good to give up
Feb 21 07:53:09 <truffles>	i eat it almost daily
Feb 21 07:53:35 <truffles>	fresh bread is the best
Feb 21 07:54:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19570 @ 0.00063647 = 12.4557 BTC [+]
Feb 21 07:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063911 = 3.1956 BTC [+]
Feb 21 07:54:22 <truffles>	is it possible to hydrophonics some weed hmmmm
Feb 21 07:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23540 @ 0.00063912 = 15.0449 BTC [+]
Feb 21 07:54:29 <truffles>	just a small 1
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Feb 21 07:57:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 3 @ 0.00299 = 0.009 BTC [+]
Feb 21 07:59:06 <truffles>	http://zedomax.com/blog/2010/12/06/the-home-hydrodome-diy-hydroponics-kit/ thats cute
Feb 21 08:00:13 <Bicknellski>	no doubt... till your electricity costs for the lamps get the cops coming
Feb 21 08:00:34 <truffles>	but i just want a tiny 1
Feb 21 08:00:35 <Bicknellski>	Pretty much anything can be hydro
Feb 21 08:00:44 <Bicknellski>	just need the right medium
Feb 21 08:00:56 <Bicknellski>	I dont know about weed.
Feb 21 08:01:16 <Bicknellski>	but the key is water flow temp and nutrients
Feb 21 08:01:29 <Bicknellski>	there are many ways to set up hydro
Feb 21 08:01:56 <Bicknellski>	and keeping things clean
Feb 21 08:01:57 <truffles>	i guess thats my next thing to look into
Feb 21 08:02:15 <Bicknellski>	doesn't take much to screw up a greenhouse
Feb 21 08:02:30 <truffles>	i like the cool names they give weed
Feb 21 08:02:33 <truffles>	kush heh
Feb 21 08:02:45 <Bicknellski>	also get a good book on house plant pests
Feb 21 08:02:56 <Bicknellski>	and be away of the signs for them
Feb 21 08:03:06 <Bicknellski>	mealy bug spider mites scale etc
Feb 21 08:03:14 <truffles>	killing pests no probs for me
Feb 21 08:03:16 <Bicknellski>	white fly
Feb 21 08:03:19 <Bicknellski>	aphids
Feb 21 08:03:28 <truffles>	if i have to get time 1 at tat ime!
Feb 21 08:03:37 <Bicknellski>	if you do it right should never get infestations
Feb 21 08:03:57 <Bicknellski>	prevention best solution
Feb 21 08:03:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063621 = 3.1811 BTC [-]
Feb 21 08:04:00 <truffles>	prob never get the weed one but def something
Feb 21 08:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.0006362 = 5.2168 BTC [-]
Feb 21 08:04:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00063234 = 4.2367 BTC [-]
Feb 21 08:04:07 <Bicknellski>	that means sterilization of the soil
Feb 21 08:04:09 <Bicknellski>	etc
Feb 21 08:04:32 <truffles>	k
Feb 21 08:04:34 <Bicknellski>	or keeping water flowing properly
Feb 21 08:04:35 <Bicknellski>	etc
Feb 21 08:04:48 <Bicknellski>	... so many little signs if you have read up on it
Feb 21 08:05:06 <truffles>	yea
Feb 21 08:05:07 <Bicknellski>	you can tell immediately when any plant is having issues
Feb 21 08:05:18 <Bicknellski>	at any stage
Feb 21 08:05:25 <truffles>	orly
Feb 21 08:05:26 <DeadWeas1l>	;;ticker
Feb 21 08:05:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.57899, Best ask: 29.60001, Bid-ask spread: 0.02102, Last trade: 29.60001, 24 hour volume: 31344.00259639, 24 hour low: 29.05809, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.61812
Feb 21 08:05:28 <truffles>	good to know
Feb 21 08:05:49 <Bicknellski>	color, leave shape, size etc
Feb 21 08:06:11 <truffles>	no its not going to break 30 today deadweasel
Feb 21 08:06:19 <Bicknellski>	some great books put out by US GOv
Feb 21 08:06:22 <Bicknellski>	on this stuff
Feb 21 08:06:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.00999 = 0.0699 BTC [-]
Feb 21 08:06:48 <truffles>	"great" gov books heh
Feb 21 08:07:06 <truffles>	recommend one
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Feb 21 08:12:03 <truffles>	ever had Durian?
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Feb 21 08:14:31 <truffles>	Sirsak or tapotapo papa'a
Feb 21 08:17:40 <Bicknellski>	nope
Feb 21 08:17:49 <Bicknellski>	stay away from Durian
Feb 21 08:17:53 <Bicknellski>	gov books?
Feb 21 08:18:00 <Bicknellski>	hmmm let me see
Feb 21 08:18:16 <truffles>	i like exotic foods
Feb 21 08:21:47 <Bicknellski>	http://vric.ucdavis.edu/pdf/greenhouse_vegproduction.pdf
Feb 21 08:21:59 <Bicknellski>	check the bibliography
Feb 21 08:22:08 <Bicknellski>	Ontario
Feb 21 08:22:13 <truffles>	k willl do later, game is starting..
Feb 21 08:22:16 <Bicknellski>	is a great resource for
Feb 21 08:22:22 <Bicknellski>	info on farming
Feb 21 08:22:28 <Bicknellski>	particularly greenhouse
Feb 21 08:22:30 *	DeadWeas1l is now known as deadweasel
Feb 21 08:22:36 <Bicknellski>	also try state level
Feb 21 08:22:40 <Bicknellski>	Ohio NY
Feb 21 08:22:42 <Bicknellski>	etc
Feb 21 08:22:45 <Bicknellski>	Michigan
Feb 21 08:22:57 <Bicknellski>	and universities also put out free publications
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Feb 21 08:30:50 <Bicknellski>	http://www.colostate.edu/Dept/CoopExt/Adams/gh/pdf/Intro_Hydroponics.pdf <-- nice little powerpoint on the key ideas you need to learn
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Feb 21 08:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 610 @ 0.00063912 = 0.3899 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063939 = 2.7628 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:35:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5119 @ 0.0006394 = 3.2731 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:37:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1827 @ 0.00576725 = 10.5368 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:38:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0060899 = 3.045 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00609 = 2.1315 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:41:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5995 @ 0.0006394 = 3.8332 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17805 @ 0.00064089 = 11.411 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 08:45:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5095 @ 0.00064089 = 3.2653 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:45:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064221 = 3.2111 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:45:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00064223 = 4.6883 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4755 @ 0.0006436 = 3.0603 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:47:14 <truffles>	lots of stuff in there..
Feb 21 08:48:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.04001 = 0.08 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:48:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.04 = 0.16 BTC [-]
Feb 21 08:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11245 @ 0.0006436 = 7.2373 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7855 @ 0.00064361 = 5.0556 BTC [+]
Feb 21 08:56:09 <Chaang-Noi>	assbot only does the mpex exchange or all other exchanges just really dead?
Feb 21 08:56:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i say this as i see btctc.. never mind
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Feb 21 08:57:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063258 = 2.7334 BTC [-]
Feb 21 08:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12471 @ 0.00063234 = 7.8859 BTC [-]
Feb 21 08:57:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5308 @ 0.00062979 = 3.3429 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 09:01:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006436 = 2.781 BTC [+]
Feb 21 09:01:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2329 @ 0.00064361 = 1.499 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 09:05:01 <ThickAsThieves>	assbot doesnt show Bitfunder
Feb 21 09:05:02 <jurov>	Chaang-Noi there's also havelock,, but not bitfunder yet
Feb 21 09:05:07 <ThickAsThieves>	nor LTCGlobal
Feb 21 09:05:22 <jurov>	nor cryptostocks
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Feb 21 09:08:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 21 09:08:15 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222378 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1397 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 6 hours, 37 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4413585.84178 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.88666
Feb 21 09:08:45 <ThickAsThieves>	that's a 5% jump in est % change in one day
Feb 21 09:09:32 <ThickAsThieves>	5 point jump, to be clear
Feb 21 09:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062991 = 2.7218 BTC [-]
Feb 21 09:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6493 @ 0.00062979 = 4.0892 BTC [-]
Feb 21 09:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3786 @ 0.00062978 = 2.3843 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 09:13:48 <Chaang-Noi>	stock trading seems slower now than 6 months ago?
Feb 21 09:14:22 <kakobrekla>	i think the btcusd ratio is getting all the attention currently
Feb 21 09:14:28 *	da2ce7_d is now known as da2ce7
Feb 21 09:14:33 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh yeah
Feb 21 09:19:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3964 @ 0.00062978 = 2.4964 BTC [-]
Feb 21 09:19:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11652 @ 0.00062951 = 7.3351 BTC [-]
Feb 21 09:20:38 <Chaang-Noi>	last second bids for asicminer here if anyone wants  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145333.20
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Feb 21 09:21:18 *	abracadabra bids 1 satoshi
Feb 21 09:21:39 <Chaang-Noi>	outbid already :)
Feb 21 09:21:45 <Chaang-Noi>	you dont have faith in asicminer?
Feb 21 09:22:07 <abracadabra>	i don't like paying someone else to do what i can do myself
Feb 21 09:27:22 <Chaang-Noi>	you can make asic chips?
Feb 21 09:29:01 <abracadabra>	...
Feb 21 09:29:32 <usagi>	financial report will show tu.silver is worth .1923/share before divs
Feb 21 09:29:49 <usagi>	that's book value
Feb 21 09:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3309 @ 0.0006364 = 2.1058 BTC [+]
Feb 21 09:33:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1012 @ 0.0006364 = 0.644 BTC [+]
Feb 21 09:33:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10288 @ 0.00063654 = 6.5487 BTC [+]
Feb 21 09:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3498 @ 0.00062951 = 2.202 BTC [-]
Feb 21 09:36:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062781 = 2.7128 BTC [-]
Feb 21 09:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15915 @ 0.0006278 = 9.9914 BTC [-]
Feb 21 09:36:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1066 @ 0.00062778 = 0.6692 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 09:44:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062802 = 2.7137 BTC [+]
Feb 21 09:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4728 @ 0.00062778 = 2.9681 BTC [-]
Feb 21 09:48:24 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 21 09:48:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.67889, Best ask: 29.67890, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 29.67889, 24 hour volume: 32569.09251823, 24 hour low: 29.31000, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.64323
Feb 21 09:48:38 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 29.67/28.66
Feb 21 09:48:38 <gribble>	1.03524075366
Feb 21 09:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 21 09:58:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.65001, Best ask: 29.67990, Bid-ask spread: 0.02989, Last trade: 29.65001, 24 hour volume: 32598.32500006, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.64408
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Feb 21 10:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00062779 = 5.6187 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 10:17:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062779 = 4.4259 BTC [+]
Feb 21 10:17:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15406 @ 0.00062778 = 9.6716 BTC [-]
Feb 21 10:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5644 @ 0.00062729 = 3.5404 BTC [-]
Feb 21 10:18:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 99 @ 0.00619 = 0.6128 BTC [+]
Feb 21 10:21:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8107 @ 0.00608999 = 49.3715 BTC [-]
Feb 21 10:21:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 19905 @ 0.00609 = 121.2215 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 10:27:03 <kakobrekla>	case you missed it
Feb 21 10:27:04 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145640.0
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Feb 21 10:28:49 <deadweasel>	urrency exchange using bitcoin?
Feb 21 10:28:53 <deadweasel>	*c
Feb 21 10:29:05 <deadweasel>	have you made any money there?
Feb 21 10:29:52 <Chaang-Noi>	wow i did not know you did that
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Feb 21 10:30:08 <Chaang-Noi>	1000x leverage, god damn, i would ahve shorted silver had i known
Feb 21 10:30:14 <kakobrekla>	...
Feb 21 10:30:43 <kakobrekla>	never too low to sell, never too high to buy
Feb 21 10:30:57 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i dont have time now but i will look into it
Feb 21 10:34:28 <usagi>	huh someone's doing 1000 leverage? wtf?
Feb 21 10:35:04 <kakobrekla>	i have 500btc account with 1000 leverage, doesnt mean i go all in.
Feb 21 10:35:22 <usagi>	Lol who can cover that
Feb 21 10:35:26 <usagi>	thats 500,000 bitcoins
Feb 21 10:35:33 <kakobrekla>	u fail maffs.
Feb 21 10:35:49 <usagi>	1000:1 on a 500 btc account?
Feb 21 10:36:01 <usagi>	Hmm I don't fail maffs but I probably don't understand what you mean.
Feb 21 10:36:06 <kakobrekla>	mebbe
Feb 21 10:39:32 <kakobrekla>	i can go short/long with ~6 lots with that, which is 0.6 MIO units
Feb 21 10:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006291 = 2.7183 BTC [+]
Feb 21 10:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00062943 = 10.0709 BTC [+]
Feb 21 10:40:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 729 @ 0.00062944 = 0.4589 BTC [+]
Feb 21 10:40:50 <usagi>	Kako forex is too risky even for me
Feb 21 10:41:08 <usagi>	you know your in over your head when usagi thinks the scheme is too risky :>
Feb 21 10:41:26 <usagi>	I cannot believe you are going to back forex with bitcoins in cold storage
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Feb 21 10:41:28 <kakobrekla>	you mean the opposite.
Feb 21 10:42:32 <usagi>	I mean wow what are you going to do if a trade goes against you? thats going to be harsh
Feb 21 10:42:40 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Feb 21 10:42:49 <kakobrekla>	you forgot our convo from yesterday?
Feb 21 10:42:58 <usagi>	I think so, what happened
Feb 21 10:43:41 <kakobrekla>	not worth going into it if you forget so quickly
Feb 21 10:44:07 <usagi>	Well I wish you luck with it, I am just saying wow, forex.. I hope you know what your doing
Feb 21 10:44:26 <usagi>	Forex has a rep for being the riskiest form of trading possible, and if your doing 1000x leverage, well...
Feb 21 10:44:32 <usagi>	Seriously, I wish you luck lol
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Feb 21 10:45:32 <kakobrekla>	wishing me luck for my personal trading? well thanks, what can i say.
Feb 21 10:45:55 <usagi>	I am a hobbyist and as a hobbyist I stay away from forex simply because I don't understand it
Feb 21 10:46:10 <usagi>	I think it's very risky because of the high amount of leverage you need to make any real money
Feb 21 10:46:57 <usagi>	Anyways I was referring to the FAQ which says you back the exchange
Feb 21 10:47:01 <usagi>	Not your personal trading
Feb 21 10:47:02 <kakobrekla>	yes like you will make any real money with your silver sellfofs
Feb 21 10:47:17 <kakobrekla>	i back the exchange?
Feb 21 10:47:22 <kakobrekla>	where does it say that
Feb 21 10:47:29 <usagi>	Are my deposits safe?
Feb 21 10:47:29 <usagi>	Yes, your Bitcoin deposits are never converted into fiat or any other form and are always kept safe in encrypted cold storage by kakobrekla, a well known member of Bitcoin OTC.
Feb 21 10:47:46 <usagi>	So basically if I deposit 500 BTC into a forex account, you hold them for me
Feb 21 10:48:09 <kakobrekla>	yes, i tell em to open 500btc account while i hold the funds
Feb 21 10:48:09 <usagi>	Your holding the value of my forex account no?
Feb 21 10:48:14 <kakobrekla>	they back it with their money
Feb 21 10:48:18 <usagi>	Ahh
Feb 21 10:48:27 <usagi>	Well that's different then, interesting
Feb 21 10:48:44 <kakobrekla>	you blow, i send them your btc
Feb 21 10:48:48 <kakobrekla>	you win, they send me more
Feb 21 10:49:18 <usagi>	Forex scares the crap outta me lol
Feb 21 10:49:36 <kakobrekla>	its a great way to pump more money into btc
Feb 21 10:49:41 <kakobrekla>	if we can get some serious earners
Feb 21 10:50:29 <kakobrekla>	(working on it) ;)
Feb 21 10:50:48 <usagi>	I might take a look if I can buy silver on leverage.
Feb 21 10:51:14 <kakobrekla>	you can
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Feb 21 10:51:31 <deadweasel>	i think usagi wants physical silver....
Feb 21 10:51:52 <usagi>	deadweasel, it depends on how well you know the market
Feb 21 10:52:18 <usagi>	I could use a way to leverage a bit, depending on various factors
Feb 21 10:52:21 <deadweasel>	not at all.
Feb 21 10:52:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.01 = 0.13 BTC [+]
Feb 21 10:52:44 <deadweasel>	i figured out we are at a low for the last 3 years in silver.
Feb 21 10:52:45 <deadweasel>	right?
Feb 21 10:53:01 <jcpham>	sell!
Feb 21 10:53:05 <jcpham>	bigh high!
Feb 21 10:53:09 <usagi>	I can't really say, I'm not a financial advisor
Feb 21 10:53:18 <usagi>	I could give you my opinion but it's worth what you pay for it.
Feb 21 10:53:25 <jcpham>	i am. sell low buy high!
Feb 21 10:53:28 <deadweasel>	I'm asking about historical data
Feb 21 10:53:38 <usagi>	We are at historic lows, yes.
Feb 21 10:53:58 <usagi>	It's already at the point where it does not really matter what price you buy in at, only that you buy in.
Feb 21 10:54:12 <kakobrekla>	same shit goes for btc heheh
Feb 21 10:54:23 <usagi>	In general yes, and in fact moreso
Feb 21 10:54:34 <usagi>	BTC is a smaller market and is not controlled via a paper market
Feb 21 10:54:41 <usagi>	So it jumps faster and higher
Feb 21 10:55:19 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18xoab/bfl_update_02202013_820_pst/
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Feb 21 10:56:08 <kakobrekla>	last call
Feb 21 10:56:09 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Feb 21 10:56:11 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Feb 21 10:58:00 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah im well into that on the no
Feb 21 10:58:59 <Chaang-Noi>	i did well on the silver one, it paid like 24% right before it closed :)
Feb 21 10:59:05 <Chaang-Noi>	124% rather
Feb 21 10:59:09 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 21 11:00:11 <deadweasel>	i have not watched it, nor do I know metals
Feb 21 11:00:21 <deadweasel>	I just knew it 2007 it was time to buy, so I did.
Feb 21 11:05:17 <deadweasel>	;;slap deadweasel
Feb 21 11:05:18 *	gribble slaps deadweasel with a flattened AK-47
Feb 21 11:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062803 = 2.7137 BTC [-]
Feb 21 11:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61 @ 0.00062779 = 0.0383 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 11:10:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 21 11:10:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.50001, Best ask: 29.56999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 29.57498, 24 hour volume: 32461.92968870, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.64290
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Feb 21 11:10:46 <Chaang-Noi>	;;slap usagi
Feb 21 11:10:47 *	gribble slaps usagi with a deep-fried entrain
Feb 21 11:10:54 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 21 11:11:30 <Chaang-Noi>	wtf is an entrain anyway?
Feb 21 11:12:15 <usagi>	entrail probably.
Feb 21 11:12:51 <usagi>	Can I help you, goat?
Feb 21 11:15:09 <deadweasel>	;;slap Chaang-Noi
Feb 21 11:15:10 *	gribble slaps Chaang-Noi with a exhilaration GPG key
Feb 21 11:15:47 <usagi>	Goat any news on your mining bond? Will we ever see a payout on it? or is that over now
Feb 21 11:15:53 <Chaang-Noi>	sorry usagi i just wanted to see gribble hurt you, seems i failed
Feb 21 11:16:06 <usagi>	Well it wouldn't be the first time ;-)
Feb 21 11:16:16 <Chaang-Noi>	im waiting to hear back from nefario or his lawyer
Feb 21 11:16:31 <usagi>	Yeah apparently nef still owes me btc too
Feb 21 11:16:33 <usagi>	sheesh
Feb 21 11:16:45 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think he really had a lawyer
Feb 21 11:17:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i think he just paid some guy for a bit of advice...
Feb 21 11:18:02 <usagi>	I think if anyone followed up on his story at all they would be able to know if he had a lawyer or not.
Feb 21 11:18:18 <usagi>	Didn't he say his lawyer's name at one time?
Feb 21 11:18:22 <usagi>	Who it was?
Feb 21 11:19:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i did my lawyer tried to contact the lawyer he claimed he had, no responce
Feb 21 11:19:37 <Chaang-Noi>	meaning i dont think he was really acting for nefario like he claimed
Feb 21 11:19:41 <usagi>	Then he does not have a lawyer.
Feb 21 11:19:48 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, that is what im saying
Feb 21 11:19:53 <usagi>	There's no such thing as no response from a lawyer if you contact them that way
Feb 21 11:20:00 <Chaang-Noi>	tempted to sell 100 btc :/
Feb 21 11:21:15 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm, i kick myself everytime i sell though...
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Feb 21 11:24:25 <Chaang-Noi>	hey james
Feb 21 11:24:45 <JWU_42>	don't quite understand the bitbet
Feb 21 11:24:47 <JWU_42>	hrm
Feb 21 11:24:52 <JWU_42>	it says "customers"
Feb 21 11:24:59 <JWU_42>	that is plural
Feb 21 11:25:19 <JWU_42>	customers would also imply somone who has paid for said item
Feb 21 11:25:33 <JWU_42>	so if supplied gratis to a dev that counts?
Feb 21 11:25:36 <JWU_42>	or no
Feb 21 11:25:50 <kakobrekla>	not a customer, then no
Feb 21 11:26:05 <JWU_42>	so - the dev pays $1 - they are a customer?
Feb 21 11:26:06 <kakobrekla>	regular sixpack joe counts
Feb 21 11:26:20 <JWU_42>	this has the potential to get very sticky
Feb 21 11:26:30 <kakobrekla>	i dont think it will be any mess at all
Feb 21 11:27:24 <usagi>	why are there two separate bets for justice against bitcoin? it would seem in spirit only one would be required
Feb 21 11:27:37 <kakobrekla>	da wat?
Feb 21 11:28:18 <usagi>	Well I guess it's different scopes, one is congress passing a law and one is the doj going after an individual
Feb 21 11:28:26 <ThickAsThieves>	those justice bets probly have more holes in them than the BFL one
Feb 21 11:28:27 <usagi>	But what if the SEC went after someone, I guess that wouldn't count?
Feb 21 11:29:08 <ThickAsThieves>	bets where "if one of these 3 happen" are lame
Feb 21 11:30:40 <kakobrekla>	submit a better one, what is the problem?
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Feb 21 11:34:15 <jcpham>	how do i access these btc-tc payouts i keep getting emailed about again
Feb 21 11:34:27 <jcpham>	i just created an account
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Feb 21 11:42:12 <Lethe>	jcpham: see if you can find an email titled such as "BTC-TC New Account Created - Claim your [assetnamehere] shares!" it contains the account info for specified asset
Feb 21 11:42:37 <jcpham>	nothing like that i checked
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Feb 21 11:42:52 <jcpham>	i contacted their support
Feb 21 11:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062929 = 2.0767 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 11:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	god i love shopping in this country.
Feb 21 11:55:54 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Feb 21 11:56:26 <kakobrekla>	can someone sell me 1 share of tu.silver here in otc gpg signed contract, you get keep holding the share for me
Feb 21 11:56:58 <usagi>	I'll pass one through for you if you give me an address
Feb 21 11:57:06 <mircea_popescu>	basically like a broker
Feb 21 11:57:10 <usagi>	unless your looking for it to be done by a 3rd party
Feb 21 11:57:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00062929 = 0.6425 BTC [+]
Feb 21 11:57:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00062943 = 10.0709 BTC [+]
Feb 21 11:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 529 @ 0.00062944 = 0.333 BTC [+]
Feb 21 11:57:40 <kakobrekla>	i give you an address?
Feb 21 11:57:48 <usagi>	a btc address for dividends
Feb 21 11:57:49 <kakobrekla>	i thought you give me an address and i send you wahtever the ask is
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Feb 21 11:58:26 <usagi>	Sure, but we pay distributions/divs too
Feb 21 12:00:25 <deadweasel>	that comes later
Feb 21 12:00:32 <deadweasel>	first he buy, then you send div.  buy first!
Feb 21 12:00:43 <kakobrekla>	you can keep the divs going towards your 200 btc debt to me
Feb 21 12:00:52 <usagi>	I don't have a 200 btc debt to you, remember?
Feb 21 12:01:05 <kakobrekla>	right.
Feb 21 12:01:10 <usagi>	CPA owes you, and CPA can't pay you because the backing defaulted.
Feb 21 12:01:10 <kakobrekla>	anywho address?
Feb 21 12:01:15 <usagi>	When I get paid, you get paid.
Feb 21 12:01:31 <usagi>	I'll give you a share for free :)
Feb 21 12:01:43 <usagi>	I'll go add it to the books stating you own a share.
Feb 21 12:01:51 <usagi>	so there's a record. And you don't want divs?
Feb 21 12:02:12 <kakobrekla>	deal.
Feb 21 12:02:16 <usagi>	I don't understand the meaning of it, but I'll do it.
Feb 21 12:02:26 <usagi>	You are now the proud owner of a share of TU.SILVER :p
Feb 21 12:02:36 <kakobrekla>	now i get to ask you questions.
Feb 21 12:02:39 <usagi>	Sure
Feb 21 12:02:58 <usagi>	You could ask me before :)
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Feb 21 12:04:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062805 = 2.7138 BTC [-]
Feb 21 12:04:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15939 @ 0.00062779 = 10.0063 BTC [-]
Feb 21 12:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 390 @ 0.00062778 = 0.2448 BTC [-]
Feb 21 12:05:26 <kakobrekla>	first question; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1546396#msg1546396
Feb 21 12:07:23 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla the guy with the gold bars, galt or w/e... he has pix of the loot, serials and whatnot.
Feb 21 12:07:54 <kakobrekla>	i wanna see maffs
Feb 21 12:11:04 <ThickAsThieves>	http://jonmillward.com/blog/studies/deep-inside-a-study-of-10000-porn-stars/
Feb 21 12:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	dat title...
Feb 21 12:11:18 <deadweasel>	saw that, shorter careers, quicker anal
Feb 21 12:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	nice way of going about extracting a grant out of jacking off all day.
Feb 21 12:13:15 <deadweasel>	wish I'd thought about it first
Feb 21 12:15:27 <ThickAsThieves>	"Foxconn: Our hiring freeze has nothing to do with iPhone 5"
Feb 21 12:15:39 <ThickAsThieves>	tomorrow's headline will be Foxconn: Our hiring freeze has everything to do with iPhone 5
Feb 21 12:15:45 <ThickAsThieves>	cuz thats how all foxconn news goes
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Feb 21 12:19:35 <jurov>	my outsider impression of porn industry is like everyone is utterly bored there
Feb 21 12:19:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062927 = 2.7191 BTC [+]
Feb 21 12:19:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8579 @ 0.00062943 = 5.3999 BTC [+]
Feb 21 12:20:02 <kakobrekla>	yes
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Feb 21 12:20:16 <kakobrekla>	always the problem of finitive amounts of holes to fuck
Feb 21 12:20:19 <mircea_popescu>	jurov not even that far off.
Feb 21 12:24:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 12:27:14 <usagi>	Hi kako I posted an answer, but I cannot discuss amounts until DeaDTerra signs off on our february report.
Feb 21 12:28:07 <usagi>	The main problem is that any number I tell you will probably change when we get the report. Actually the report is late, but, should be ready today? tomorrow? that's what he tells me.
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Feb 21 12:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://ro.stiri.yahoo.com/cna-fost-executat-silit-antena-3-pentru-plata-122221700.html
Feb 21 12:32:08 <mircea_popescu>	you won't be reading that cause it's in romanian, but!
Feb 21 12:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	the romanian FCC fined a local tv station.
Feb 21 12:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	tv station sued the fcc, and won.
Feb 21 12:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	court issued punitive damages
Feb 21 12:32:48 <mircea_popescu>	the FCC employees are now not receiving their pay because the FCC is being executed for the amount.
Feb 21 12:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	reasons to love romania.
Feb 21 12:33:40 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Feb 21 12:36:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062786 = 2.713 BTC [-]
Feb 21 12:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8229 @ 0.00062778 = 5.166 BTC [-]
Feb 21 12:38:55 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 21 12:38:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.77060, Best ask: 29.87777, Bid-ask spread: 0.10717, Last trade: 29.77060, 24 hour volume: 32710.64861839, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.87777, 24 hour vwap: 29.64796
Feb 21 12:40:19 <kakobrekla>	ok thanks usagi
Feb 21 12:40:30 <kakobrekla>	will see what dt says then ;)
Feb 21 12:43:41 <markedathome>	I see the farce that is glbse carries on - "lost the flash drive containing the gpg keys" ....
Feb 21 12:49:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.825 = 3.3 BTC [-]
Feb 21 12:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5881 @ 0.00062778 = 3.692 BTC [-]
Feb 21 12:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6116 @ 0.00062762 = 3.8385 BTC [-]
Feb 21 12:49:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 924 @ 0.0006273 = 0.5796 BTC [-]
Feb 21 12:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome eh ?! news to me. what's this ?
Feb 21 12:51:37 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1540424#msg1540424
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Feb 21 12:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-love-romania-a-guide-for-the-us-citizen/
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Feb 21 13:03:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00062908 = 2.0131 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 13:12:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 10 @ 0.0213 = 0.213 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 13:23:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1121 @ 0.00062908 = 0.7052 BTC [+]
Feb 21 13:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7421 @ 0.00062943 = 4.671 BTC [+]
Feb 21 13:24:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16208 @ 0.00062944 = 10.202 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 13:37:11 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1546642#msg1546642
Feb 21 13:39:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2834 @ 0.00062944 = 1.7838 BTC [+]
Feb 21 13:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063194 = 2.7306 BTC [+]
Feb 21 13:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1879 @ 0.00063195 = 1.1874 BTC [+]
Feb 21 13:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	"Self-mining is an option but not emergent plan. Besides having fluctuation and being the target for cyber attack, we do not want to be involved in voting with our portion of the network yet."
Feb 21 13:44:42 <mircea_popescu>	that sounds ominous enough.
Feb 21 13:46:36 <kakobrekla>	http://s2.postimage.org/okxft6fx5/2013_01_15_20_44_44.png
Feb 21 13:46:37 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Feb 21 13:46:41 <kakobrekla>	this is beyond retarded
Feb 21 13:49:18 <deadweasel>	pennybot pushing up
Feb 21 13:49:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i get uncomfortable just looking at micon
Feb 21 13:49:50 <ThickAsThieves>	nvm being heckled by him
Feb 21 13:51:46 <markedathome>	"... or other issues"  -- yeah, he's being stalked by a troll...
Feb 21 13:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15421 @ 0.00063195 = 9.7453 BTC [+]
Feb 21 13:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1964 @ 0.00063401 = 1.2452 BTC [+]
Feb 21 13:56:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39350 @ 0.00063485 = 24.9813 BTC [+]
Feb 21 13:56:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4865 @ 0.00063548 = 3.0916 BTC [+]
Feb 21 13:56:13 <error4733>	wow micon... thy dude is in a other galaxy
Feb 21 13:56:13 <dub>	All confirmation letters had been sent more than one month ago. Please check your spam folder if you did not find it. And please PM/mail me if you still could not.
Feb 21 13:56:17 <dub>	what does that mean
Feb 21 13:56:18 <error4733>	this*
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Feb 21 13:56:58 <dub>	do you need to reply to that to confirm shares? the only email I got just said 'you have N shares'
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Feb 21 14:09:29 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 21 14:09:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.90700, Best ask: 29.92700, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 29.92700, 24 hour volume: 33677.34763086, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.96800, 24 hour vwap: 29.66112
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Feb 21 14:11:28 <ThickAsThieves>	so close
Feb 21 14:11:49 <deadweasel>	volume doesn't cut it.  people will dump, backslide
Feb 21 14:11:58 <deadweasel>	but that's good too!
Feb 21 14:18:32 <deadweasel>	I don't get it, when does this rise end?
Feb 21 14:18:40 <deadweasel>	when a whale gets bored and dumps all?
Feb 21 14:18:49 <deadweasel>	it's not infinite....
Feb 21 14:18:58 <error4733>	yes is it
Feb 21 14:19:29 <error4733>	how genius whas satoshi omg
Feb 21 14:19:58 <error4733>	economy nobel the day he'll come back
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Feb 21 14:27:22 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144622.0 this is kinda concerning
Feb 21 14:27:53 <dub>	does mircea_popescu really think the only kind of trading is 'hoard forever' or is -pr off meds
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Feb 21 14:28:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063027 = 2.7234 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:28:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14666 @ 0.00063006 = 9.2405 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00062836 = 1.6966 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15076 @ 0.0006273 = 9.4572 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25137 @ 0.00062729 = 15.7682 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:28:44 <dub>	regardless you would have to be brain dead to buy g.mpoe
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Feb 21 14:32:15 <dub>	which I crecall being a key feature of past DT enterprises
Feb 21 14:32:59 <dub>	srsly, quoting from the same post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144622.msg1542790#msg1542790
Feb 21 14:33:09 <dub>	"Arbitrage is a healthy thing for the market it brings down the spread and it's part of the free market hence I encourage it. I arbitrage when I see that the spreads are great and hence causes problems for people who want to sell/buy the shares."
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Feb 21 14:33:32 <dub>	"This is some of the arguments which were used against Erik when he issued more shares, You are arguieing out of a speculation point of view, this is not investing but gambling. "
Feb 21 14:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062752 = 2.7115 BTC [+]
Feb 21 14:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00062729 = 3.3742 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:34:09 <dub>	"For a investor the short term market price should not matter other then as a way to buy or sell at that price, as long as the underlying assets are the same a investor should not see a problem with issuing more shares."
Feb 21 14:35:23 <dub>	the first quote sounds like he's going to 'arbitrage' his own passthrough
Feb 21 14:35:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2650 @ 0.00597198 = 15.8257 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:40:45 <ThickAsThieves>	isnt that what he does?
Feb 21 14:43:02 <jborkl>	That is what all market makers do, they scalp the difference. What is the problem?
Feb 21 14:43:39 <dub>	he controls the market
Feb 21 14:43:49 <dub>	he can add new stock at any time
Feb 21 14:43:51 <ThickAsThieves>	it says that on the labe
Feb 21 14:43:52 <ThickAsThieves>	l
Feb 21 14:43:55 <jborkl>	You can buy from mpex then
Feb 21 14:44:05 <dub>	yes, it does
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Feb 21 14:45:33 <ThickAsThieves>	Asset Name	G.SDICE
Feb 21 14:45:33 <ThickAsThieves>	Asset Issuer	DeaDTerra
Feb 21 14:45:33 <ThickAsThieves>	Issuer may Increase Shares:	Yes, without vote.
Feb 21 14:45:49 <dub>	its not a bad model really, make up a bunch of really shitty vehicles that outright steal from investors, sit back and profit from the endless supply of retards
Feb 21 14:46:05 <ThickAsThieves>	are you trolling?
Feb 21 14:46:12 <dub>	no
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Feb 21 14:46:36 <jborkl>	Don't be a cheap ass and buy from mpex then
Feb 21 14:46:44 <dub>	jborkl: derp
Feb 21 14:46:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll make one comment. if you don't like it, don't buy it.
Feb 21 14:46:56 <dub>	double derp
Feb 21 14:48:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.699 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:48:32 <dub>	whats scary is when someone shows up to pick it apart mircea_popescu rides in on his white horse to defend DT
Feb 21 14:49:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00064 = 0.64 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:49:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00063 = 0.63 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:49:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00063 = 0.063 BTC [-]
Feb 21 14:50:05 <jurov>	i converted some stuff into G.SDICE and wait for opportunity
Feb 21 14:50:26 <jurov>	since i noticed  DT often lags and ask side dries up completely
Feb 21 14:50:53 <jurov>	cuz he is doing it seriously u know. no filthy arbitration
Feb 21 14:51:21 <jurov>	*G.MPOE i mean
Feb 21 14:51:22 <dub>	im not saying he has but he's left the door open
Feb 21 14:51:43 <ThickAsThieves>	can someone buy shares on a passthru, and then afterwards buy an MPEX account and have those shares converted into the new MPEX account?
Feb 21 14:52:03 <jurov>	yes, DT allows that.
Feb 21 14:52:13 <ThickAsThieves>	fees?
Feb 21 14:52:28 <ThickAsThieves>	or just a gentlemanly tip?
Feb 21 14:52:37 <jurov>	free. but if you try to move there and back often he can refuse it.
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Feb 21 14:55:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 21 14:55:13 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222418 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1357 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 23 hours, 52 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4403316.2215 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.60537
Feb 21 14:56:37 <deadweasel>	Don't buy assets.  BTC is risky enough.
Feb 21 14:56:47 <deadweasel>	my two cents, worth very little
Feb 21 14:57:16 <Namworld>	Well it's two cent...
Feb 21 14:57:58 <jurov>	you'll get swayed eventually.. better do it with proper research
Feb 21 14:58:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062774 = 6.3402 BTC [+]
Feb 21 14:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 946 @ 0.00062729 = 0.5934 BTC [-]
Feb 21 15:00:25 <deadweasel>	well I did it, now I'm stuck with a few thousand SDICE shares that nobody wants.
Feb 21 15:00:38 <deadweasel>	because I did before erik decided to dump another 2 milliion or so
Feb 21 15:02:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00062 = 0.62 BTC [-]
Feb 21 15:02:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00062 = 0.062 BTC [-]
Feb 21 15:02:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3900 @ 0.00062 = 2.418 BTC [-]
Feb 21 15:04:47 <topace>	mircea_popescu: you there ?
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Feb 21 15:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	topace yea
Feb 21 15:06:05 <topace>	excellent.. got a question for you regarding the PUSH receipts...
Feb 21 15:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	shoot
Feb 21 15:06:11 <topace>	is it possible to get a UNIQUE identifier added to it ?
Feb 21 15:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	they are already unique, just hash them
Feb 21 15:06:32 <topace>	so i could, say, accept a pasted receipt into my website as a single-use receipt, to automatically credit an account
Feb 21 15:07:20 <topace>	wouldnt an identical push of an identical number of units from identical fingerprint to identical fingerprint have identical receipts (and thus, identical hashes?)
Feb 21 15:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 21 15:07:31 <mircea_popescu>	think about it, they're gpg signed
Feb 21 15:07:45 <dub>	deadweasel: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3t355y/
Feb 21 15:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	if you pgp-sign the same exact message ten million times you won't get a collision
Feb 21 15:08:17 <topace>	hmmm
Feb 21 15:08:53 <topace>	so a hash of the whole receipt could be my unique identifier, to prevent people from double-posting receipts (and trying to get double the units pushed)
Feb 21 15:09:14 <topace>	just trying to figure out a way to let others do mpex<-->havelock arbitrage automatically
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Feb 21 15:10:03 <Namworld>	don't forget that people might not have correct formatting when copying their receipt.
Feb 21 15:10:11 <topace>	Namworld: then they are stupid
Feb 21 15:10:13 <topace>	:p
Feb 21 15:10:18 <topace>	if they dont format it right, it'll just reject it
Feb 21 15:10:23 <Namworld>	I have to clean up mines for the signature to become valid.
Feb 21 15:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	topace just make sure somewhere in tyhere you actually check the sig is valid mpex.
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Feb 21 15:10:46 <Namworld>	Because the windows command line doesn't display the same as MPEx return
Feb 21 15:10:46 <mircea_popescu>	that will do the checking too.
Feb 21 15:11:06 <Namworld>	I must change spacings into actual tabs in notepad++
Feb 21 15:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the auto-crediting of pushes is a very good idea
Feb 21 15:12:03 <Namworld>	copying the command line gives you spaces instead of tabs.
Feb 21 15:12:23 <mircea_popescu>	will bridge situations where mopex price moves and you're not around quite nicely, plus it decentralizes. so ++.
Feb 21 15:12:33 <topace>	yup
Feb 21 15:13:27 <topace>	so to verify the sig is valid, AND is signed by mpex, im just looking for the DSA Key ID to match?
Feb 21 15:13:33 <topace>	gpg: Signature made Wed 20 Feb 2013 01:32:34 PM EST using DSA key ID F1B69921
Feb 21 15:14:05 <topace>	gpg: Good signature from "MP Stock Exchange (Visit http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/) <office@polimedia.us>"
Feb 21 15:15:57 <topace>	so im just looking for a) "DSA Key ID F1B69921" and   b) "Good signature"
Feb 21 15:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14379 @ 0.00063467 = 9.1259 BTC [+]
Feb 21 15:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	topace yeah
Feb 21 15:18:13 <mircea_popescu>	if it says it's a good signature by MPEx key you're golden.
Feb 21 15:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	also, make sure you read this : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/new-mpex-key/
Feb 21 15:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld is that a /n vs /r/n issue ?
Feb 21 15:19:55 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: will you be around tonight?
Feb 21 15:20:00 <topace>	ahh switching your key eh?
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Feb 21 15:21:18 <mircea_popescu>	well it expires
Feb 21 15:22:33 <topace>	so as im writing this, i should accept both  F1B69921   and    CFE0F3E1   that way things wont break because i forget to change my end on March 10th :p
Feb 21 15:22:47 <Namworld>	thestringpuller: is there some event happening or you'll just need me for something?
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Feb 21 15:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	topace prolly should at least keep[ an eye for new key.
Feb 21 15:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	implementation details left to the exchange owner :)
Feb 21 15:26:31 <topace>	indeed :) thanks.. this is gonna be awesome :)
Feb 21 15:28:31 <mircea_popescu>	:)
Feb 21 15:32:34 <dub>	!tickr m s.dice
Feb 21 15:32:42 <dub>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 21 15:32:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00562811 / 0.0060087 / 0.00609 (40513 shares, 243.43 BTC), 7D: 0.00562811 / 0.00635651 / 0.0069 (1414456 shares, 8,991.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00592989 / 0.0075 (7769457 shares, 46,072.05 BTC)
Feb 21 15:34:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00063544 = 1.3662 BTC [+]
Feb 21 15:36:39 <DeaDTerra>	New walls are up for G.SDICE,G.BBET and G.MPOE on BF and BTCT :D
Feb 21 15:39:06 <ThickAsThieves>	SCAMMER
Feb 21 15:39:08 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Feb 21 15:41:11 <DeaDTerra>	hm?
Feb 21 15:42:25 <Namworld>	He doesn't like walls that compete with his sale offers maybe? =P
Feb 21 15:43:08 <DeaDTerra>	haha I guess :P just seemed like a random outburst xD
Feb 21 15:43:29 <DeaDTerra>	The S.DICE are selling really cheap now, seems like people are losing faith now in between the divdiends xD
Feb 21 15:44:25 <dub>	nothing to do with the threat of unannounced dumping by the issuer?
Feb 21 15:44:51 <deadweasel>	^
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Feb 21 15:47:14 <ThickAsThieves>	Deadterra, I was joking about an earlier complaint from dub
Feb 21 15:47:27 <ThickAsThieves>	he doesn't like that you control your own passthru
Feb 21 15:47:38 <dub>	I didn't say its a scam, just a shitty investment
Feb 21 15:47:51 <deadweasel>	sounds more like he doesn't like unannounced dumping.
Feb 21 15:48:04 <DeaDTerra>	As I have explained myself, I am not going to misuse my contract it's simply for my own comfortability.
Feb 21 15:48:20 <deadweasel>	i take unannounced dumps all the time, just not on other people.
Feb 21 15:48:23 <DeaDTerra>	Why would I sell share below market price when I have to back them up with S.DICE shares, I would end up going on a lose for each share I sell.
Feb 21 15:48:25 <dub>	yes and any sane investors unfomfortability
Feb 21 15:48:25 <ThickAsThieves>	dub: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+joke
Feb 21 15:49:02 <deadweasel>	later!
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Feb 21 15:49:34 <DeaDTerra>	I will try to announce a head of time and announce when I put up the walls, I also try to price them approriatly according to the BF,BTCT and MPEX market, so I don't screw anyone.
Feb 21 15:50:01 <DeaDTerra>	but it's hard as if I price them to high no one wants them and the buyers gets screwed, if I place it to low then the sellers can't sell their shares and they feel screwed.
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Feb 21 15:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4821 @ 0.00063467 = 3.0597 BTC [-]
Feb 21 15:55:48 <ThickAsThieves>	if you are actively arbing then the price stays more realistic anyway
Feb 21 15:56:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i think dub's soreness stems from erik's 3mil share dump
Feb 21 15:56:45 <ThickAsThieves>	probably waiting for shares to reach .0075 again
Feb 21 15:58:57 <DeaDTerra>	I am activly arbing, the problem is the slowness of moving bitcoins around :P
Feb 21 15:59:12 <DeaDTerra>	I also encourage other to arb by allowing transfer from and to the different exchanges
Feb 21 15:59:32 <kakobrekla>	so this is lookin fleasible now http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/
Feb 21 15:59:37 <kakobrekla>	hihi.
Feb 21 16:02:28 <dub>	I think ThickAsThieves is getting defensive about his investments
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Feb 21 16:06:03 <DeaDTerra>	BBET is a pretty neat site :)
Feb 21 16:06:47 <ThickAsThieves>	dub, i'm invested all over the place
Feb 21 16:06:54 <ThickAsThieves>	it's all good
Feb 21 16:08:41 *	jurov got into fight over blocksize on #bitcoin-dev
Feb 21 16:08:43 <DeaDTerra>	Never invest more then you can afford to lose :)
Feb 21 16:08:56 <ThickAsThieves>	all money made from investing
Feb 21 16:09:33 <ThickAsThieves>	kako, we'll see hot bbet divs look next then ;)
Feb 21 16:09:38 <ThickAsThieves>	hot=how
Feb 21 16:11:17 <Namworld>	My MPEx PTs on BTCT.co are 225% better than other MPEx PTs according to flawed studies I sponsored...
Feb 21 16:13:40 <DeaDTerra>	hahah xD
Feb 21 16:13:48 <DeaDTerra>	How's it going with your PT, seeing any good volume? :)
Feb 21 16:16:42 <Namworld>	I guess the volumes are OK
Feb 21 16:17:18 <Namworld>	We have comparable volume for S.DICE on BTCT.co
Feb 21 16:17:38 <Namworld>	not monthly tho
Feb 21 16:18:56 <DeaDTerra>	oki cool :) always good with some competition
Feb 21 16:19:07 <Namworld>	aye
Feb 21 16:19:58 <thestringpuller>	anyone here have lawyers at their disposal?
Feb 21 16:21:10 <Namworld>	I'm off for lunch
Feb 21 16:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00063169 = 3.84 BTC [-]
Feb 21 16:32:11 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 21 16:32:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.69900000 / 0.7085 / 0.71800000 (2 shares, 1.41700000 BTC), 7D: 0.66000000 / 0.70371784 / 0.75900000 (1380 shares, 971.13062090 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.6615484 / 0.89000000 (11276 shares, 7459.61979386 BTC)
Feb 21 16:32:18 <topace>	havelock has pretty good sdice volume
Feb 21 16:32:28 <topace>	not today though :p lol
Feb 21 16:32:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.69 = 2.07 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 16:40:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 16:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2171 @ 0.00063544 = 1.3795 BTC [+]
Feb 21 16:46:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16949 @ 0.00063548 = 10.7708 BTC [+]
Feb 21 16:49:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063548 = 2.0971 BTC [+]
Feb 21 16:55:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.00063274 = 0.6258 BTC [-]
Feb 21 16:56:13 <Namworld>	"Seems like a huge risk to both sides with so many assets."
Feb 21 16:56:58 <jurov>	so, some vocal members want to small block size as a leverage to get off-blockchain methods developed quicker
Feb 21 16:57:02 <Namworld>	Can someone explain me how having 1 passthrough for each MPEx stock suddenly makes more risk appear out of thin air than if I had only one?
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Feb 21 16:58:04 <Namworld>	I don't get the why of that anonymous' vote
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Feb 21 17:02:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063173 = 2.7297 BTC [-]
Feb 21 17:02:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15289 @ 0.00063188 = 9.6608 BTC [+]
Feb 21 17:02:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 893 @ 0.00063548 = 0.5675 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 17:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00063072 = 3.0275 BTC [-]
Feb 21 17:07:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2140 @ 0.00063036 = 1.349 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 17:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 743 @ 0.00063548 = 0.4722 BTC [+]
Feb 21 17:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063598 = 10.1757 BTC [+]
Feb 21 17:16:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2073 @ 0.00063599 = 1.3184 BTC [+]
Feb 21 17:18:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2181 @ 0.00063036 = 1.3748 BTC [-]
Feb 21 17:18:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13805 @ 0.00063036 = 8.7021 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 17:28:39 <maximian>	s.dice is currently up 10162 BTC for the month, not bad
Feb 21 17:28:49 <maximian>	;;calc 0.00010162 / 0.00597198
Feb 21 17:28:49 <gribble>	0.0170161320031
Feb 21 17:29:00 <maximian>	yields 1.7% per month at current price
Feb 21 17:29:24 <maximian>	what other bitcoin stock performs like that and isn't a scam?
Feb 21 17:31:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2195 @ 0.00063036 = 1.3836 BTC [-]
Feb 21 17:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063036 = 2.7238 BTC [-]
Feb 21 17:31:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13805 @ 0.00063036 = 8.7021 BTC [-]
Feb 21 17:31:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7729 @ 0.00063035 = 4.872 BTC [-]
Feb 21 17:31:19 <Namworld>	BTC-BOND pays almost 1% per month
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Feb 21 17:37:40 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 21 17:37:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.80001, Best ask: 29.86000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05999, Last trade: 29.86000, 24 hour volume: 33027.28505548, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.97800, 24 hour vwap: 29.67916
Feb 21 17:37:57 <DeadWeasel>	is there a command to get gox lag?
Feb 21 17:38:45 <iz>	;;goxlag
Feb 21 17:38:46 <gribble>	0 seconds
Feb 21 17:38:55 <DeadWeasel>	thank u, iz
Feb 21 17:38:58 <iz>	np
Feb 21 17:39:02 <jurov>	How a bitcoin technical question inevitably goes political: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144895.0
Feb 21 17:39:33 <jurov>	funny how one can get psyched about it
Feb 21 17:39:39 <DeadWeasel>	christ, 17 pages on that post already?
Feb 21 17:39:48 <DeadWeasel>	i saw it start and just ignored it
Feb 21 17:39:53 <DeadWeasel>	seems like the right call
Feb 21 17:40:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4167 @ 0.00063036 = 2.6267 BTC [+]
Feb 21 17:40:43 <jurov>	well, it shouldn't worry me as a prospective btc banker at all
Feb 21 17:41:06 <jurov>	but i just don't like having 1M limit and transactions with $20 fees
Feb 21 17:41:21 <jurov>	as some "members" imagine
Feb 21 17:42:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00063036 = 2.2693 BTC [+]
Feb 21 17:42:05 <jurov>	cause they want to play with their nebulous off-blockchain schemes
Feb 21 17:42:52 <jurov>	they even propose to get funding from bitcoin foundation for it
Feb 21 17:43:14 <jurov>	as if it was more important than improving the BTC protocol itself
Feb 21 17:44:25 <kakobrekla>	makes me wanna spam the blockchain
Feb 21 17:44:30 <jurov>	they even told me that instead of having IPv4 with 64bit addresses proper and thus avoiding NAT,
Feb 21 17:44:40 <jurov>	IPv6 should have come sooner?
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Feb 21 17:46:21 <jurov>	kako, we should just join btc foundation and introduce some healthy reason there
Feb 21 17:47:10 <jurov>	fortunately gavin has his wit together, but he seems alone
Feb 21 17:47:41 <kakobrekla>	hrm
Feb 21 17:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> fortunately gavin has his wit together, but he seems alone << this.
Feb 21 17:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	being the bitcoin lead developer is part time kindergarten headmaster.
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Feb 21 17:52:53 <jurov>	sauce: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2013/02/21#l5998176
Feb 21 17:53:42 <jurov>	^ unlike btctalk, peeps are quite intelligent, you may find it bearable to read it
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Feb 21 17:56:10 <kakobrekla>	phantomcircuit	1GiB blocks doesn't seem... practical
Feb 21 17:56:12 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Feb 21 17:56:19 <kakobrekla>	well no difference on the end
Feb 21 17:56:28 <kakobrekla>	if its 10 blocks 1 gig or 1 10 gig
Feb 21 17:56:48 <kakobrekla>	you can have n blocks in a minute
Feb 21 17:56:59 <kakobrekla>	so not really a fix
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Feb 21 17:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00587398 = 7.3425 BTC [-]
Feb 21 17:59:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063579 = 2.7472 BTC [+]
Feb 21 17:59:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00063597 = 5.0242 BTC [+]
Feb 21 17:59:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13805 @ 0.00063598 = 8.7797 BTC [+]
Feb 21 17:59:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10661 @ 0.00063599 = 6.7803 BTC [+]
Feb 21 17:59:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3263 @ 0.00063654 = 2.077 BTC [+]
Feb 21 18:02:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+]
Feb 21 18:02:57 <DeadWeasel>	blockchain takes up 7.6GB on my pc.
Feb 21 18:03:15 <jurov>	don't you have terabyte hdd?
Feb 21 18:03:32 <DeadWeasel>	no, that's diablo, I have a 500gb and 60gb ssd
Feb 21 18:03:39 <DeadWeasel>	coupel of externals if I need
Feb 21 18:03:56 <DeadWeasel>	I get the best bang for the buck, and older drives are sellig cheap
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Feb 21 18:04:22 <DeadWeasel>	would like to upgrade my ssd, but I'm not sure the OS will reinstall correctly on the the ssd.
Feb 21 18:04:45 <DeadWeasel>	Do you know if remastersys is a true ISO installation after you create it?
Feb 21 18:04:50 <DeadWeasel>	or does it retain partitions?
Feb 21 18:04:56 <DeadWeasel>	nevermind, that's for #linux
Feb 21 18:04:59 <DeadWeasel>	brg
Feb 21 18:05:00 <Diablo-D3>	I dont have a 1tb hd
Feb 21 18:05:00 <DeadWeasel>	brb
Feb 21 18:05:07 <DeadWeasel>	you have 2tb
Feb 21 18:05:14 <jurov>	lol
Feb 21 18:05:17 <Diablo-D3>	I have 2 400gb in raid 1, 4x750 in raid 5, and thats now being switched over to 2x2tb raid 1 and Ill have 2 spare 750s
Feb 21 18:05:27 <DeadWeasel>	send me a 750
Feb 21 18:05:30 <Diablo-D3>	and btw, are you on 0.8.0?
Feb 21 18:05:38 <Diablo-D3>	you have two copies of the chain
Feb 21 18:05:42 <Diablo-D3>	one leveldb, one bdb
Feb 21 18:05:55 <jurov>	i have one 1.5TB 5400rpm "WD Green" and two bitcoinds happily on top of it
Feb 21 18:05:56 <Diablo-D3>	you dont need the other one anymore
Feb 21 18:05:57 <DeadWeasel>	crikey, does that mean 14gb of blockchain?
Feb 21 18:06:04 <DeadWeasel>	oh, I have two copies now?
Feb 21 18:06:11 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: no, the blockchain isnt that big to begin with
Feb 21 18:06:27 <DeadWeasel>	why did I have 7.6 gb in my bitcoin qt directory?
Feb 21 18:06:29 <Diablo-D3>	okay I lied
Feb 21 18:06:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.68 = 1.36 BTC [-]
Feb 21 18:06:35 <Diablo-D3>	apparently the chain IS 7.3gb now
Feb 21 18:06:38 <Diablo-D3>	what the fuck
Feb 21 18:06:39 <DeadWeasel>	damn
Feb 21 18:06:41 <DeadWeasel>	yeah
Feb 21 18:06:42 <Diablo-D3>	$ du -sh .bitcoin
Feb 21 18:06:44 <Diablo-D3>	7.3G	.bitcoin
Feb 21 18:06:48 <Diablo-D3>	when the fuck did that happen
Feb 21 18:06:51 <DeadWeasel>	i uninstalled that shit, I had to do a backup
Feb 21 18:06:59 <DeadWeasel>	i'll get it back later, thinking of multibit
Feb 21 18:07:00 <jurov>	while you were playing satoshidice
Feb 21 18:07:01 <Diablo-D3>	it was only like 3gb a month or tow ago
Feb 21 18:07:03 <DeadWeasel>	anyone used that?
Feb 21 18:07:14 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: I hate SD
Feb 21 18:07:15 <kakobrekla>	also on a side note, funny, i remember people saying "we are paying banks to hold a number in a db, ridiculus, use btc, be your own bank"
Feb 21 18:07:18 <Diablo-D3>	its bloating the chain with trash
Feb 21 18:07:18 <kakobrekla>	well there ya go.
Feb 21 18:07:20 <iz>	mo transactions, mo problems...
Feb 21 18:07:35 <Diablo-D3>	I wish I was friedcat
Feb 21 18:07:36 <DeadWeasel>	SD is doing that.
Feb 21 18:07:38 <Diablo-D3>	I'd solo mine and refuse tx for SD
Feb 21 18:07:50 <DeadWeasel>	but what options is there?  it's an economy.
Feb 21 18:08:01 <DeadWeasel>	what do you solo mine with?
Feb 21 18:08:07 <jurov>	what are you all on? i'll happily accept 1TB blockchain.. its still little price for btc freedom
Feb 21 18:08:37 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: I dont solo anything, I use p2pool
Feb 21 18:08:46 <DeadWeasel>	oh, i saw that wrong
Feb 21 18:08:46 <jurov>	you really want btc to be usable off a floppy with 1200 baud connection?
Feb 21 18:08:53 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: becuase if SD keeps continuing at this rate, thats 1GB a year
Feb 21 18:08:57 <DeadWeasel>	that would be hilarious.
Feb 21 18:09:11 <jurov>	1GB an year, go on!
Feb 21 18:09:19 <DeadWeasel>	my commodore 64 hashing the blockchain.  1 block every 15 years
Feb 21 18:09:45 <jurov>	we can manage 1TB a year, it's 2013!
Feb 21 18:09:57 <jurov>	someone is stuck in 1990's
Feb 21 18:10:01 <DeadWeasel>	it's true, storage technology is keeping pace
Feb 21 18:10:02 <jborkl>	I got a 32gb flash drive for 9 bucks
Feb 21 18:10:06 <DeadWeasel>	where?
Feb 21 18:10:17 <DeadWeasel>	jborkl^
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Feb 21 18:10:30 <DeadWeasel>	you keep your cold wallet on there?
Feb 21 18:10:32 <jborkl>	with my external hdd, a coupon extra from best buy
Feb 21 18:10:37 <DeadWeasel>	nice
Feb 21 18:10:43 <jborkl>	storage is cheap
Feb 21 18:10:46 <DeadWeasel>	it is.
Feb 21 18:10:51 <DeadWeasel>	i just don't need anymore.
Feb 21 18:11:10 <DeadWeasel>	i've got all of 170GB including OS and video/music/docs/dev stuff
Feb 21 18:11:19 <DeadWeasel>	lean mean machine
Feb 21 18:11:38 <DeadWeasel>	but I'll glady take a 32GB key for $9
Feb 21 18:11:59 <DeadWeasel>	I feel like there is a manipulator keepng the price just under 30 right now
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Feb 21 18:12:16 <DeadWeasel>	for the weekend, then use the lemmings and his own power to push past 30.31.32
Feb 21 18:12:23 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 21 18:12:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.78090, Best ask: 29.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11909, Last trade: 29.90999, 24 hour volume: 32622.24662481, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.97800, 24 hour vwap: 29.67901
Feb 21 18:12:24 <DeadWeasel>	then dump again
Feb 21 18:12:32 <DeadWeasel>	volume dropping for the evening it seems?
Feb 21 18:13:29 <midnightmagic>	jurov: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=135110703125929&w=2
Feb 21 18:14:05 <DeadWeasel>	coingenuity: you there?
Feb 21 18:14:25 <Diablo-D3>	Im thinking about selling my 100btc
Feb 21 18:14:26 <DeadWeasel>	why is my invoice from Cheyanne Wyoming, but you say you are all sleeping as if you ar eon the other side of the world?
Feb 21 18:14:28 <Diablo-D3>	and buy some shit I want
Feb 21 18:14:43 <DeadWeasel>	Diablo-D3: I feel you.
Feb 21 18:14:45 <jurov>	midnightmagic, what do you meant?
Feb 21 18:15:01 <DeadWeasel>	I sold to cover my investment, so my money is out, my other 150BTC is all profit if I sell
Feb 21 18:15:04 <DeadWeasel>	but I don't know what to do
Feb 21 18:15:34 <coingenuity>	DeadWeasel: yes?
Feb 21 18:15:43 <coingenuity>	what's cooking
Feb 21 18:16:08 <Diablo-D3>	DeadWeasel: people will probably bitch that Im stealing from dmc, but I dont give two fucks
Feb 21 18:16:13 <Diablo-D3>	its my money, and the money didnt come from dmc
Feb 21 18:16:18 <Diablo-D3>	so they can suck my nuts
Feb 21 18:16:18 <DeadWeasel>	coingenuity: Cheyanne WY
Feb 21 18:16:24 <DeadWeasel>	but you all sleep during the day?
Feb 21 18:16:29 <coingenuity>	no?
Feb 21 18:17:06 <midnightmagic>	jurov: What do you mean, what do I mean? I'm not trying to argue or anything, I'm just saying IPv6 kinda sucks for what it's become, and I'm not surprised at all it's not installed everywhere right now.
Feb 21 18:17:06 <DeadWeasel>	Weird, you said you were all sleeping when I sent my emails.  I'm just making sure my shipments is coming from outside the US
Feb 21 18:17:18 <DeadWeasel>	BTW, thank you for INVOICE, makes my taxes much easier
Feb 21 18:17:20 <DeadWeasel>	you da man
Feb 21 18:17:46 <DeadWeasel>	and for putting up with me.  I will likely work with you again.  Also, if you have a particular area you need a review in, let me know.
Feb 21 18:17:48 <coingenuity>	NP, that's why i made it that way(with a lot of USD numeracy) :D
Feb 21 18:18:11 <coingenuity>	your order comes from the USA, but we ship worldwide with no issues excepting some rare countries
Feb 21 18:18:28 <coingenuity>	and with special customs forms to make sure you don't get charged taxes, if that is the case in your country
Feb 21 18:18:32 <DeadWeasel>	I see, that bitctalk thread was worrisome, felt as if it wsa coming ex-USA.
Feb 21 18:18:39 <DeadWeasel>	you might want to clarify on that thread that you are US based.
Feb 21 18:18:39 <jurov>	midnightmagic, i see, but it's not so obvious. you could have meant something "ipv6 needs nat too" :)
Feb 21 18:18:57 <mircea_popescu>	what's wrong with nat anyway ?
Feb 21 18:19:00 <pigeons>	fuck nat and fuck those people that want ipv6 nat
Feb 21 18:19:02 <DeadWeasel>	Also, never found anything in my spam.  So gmail might be filtering on a higher level.
Feb 21 18:19:07 <DeadWeasel>	shitty.
Feb 21 18:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Feb 21 18:19:21 <coingenuity>	DeadWeasel: we're pretty verbose about it, not sure why people get a different impression, but yeah- always ship from the usa, no matter what
Feb 21 18:19:24 <DeadWeasel>	fuck IPV6 altogether, the protocol is still shit
Feb 21 18:19:44 <coingenuity>	DeadWeasel: even set up our distribution network such that we're close to the biggest airports in the world for expedited global processing ;)
Feb 21 18:20:00 <coingenuity>	but yeah, i agree= it looks like a high-level filter to me
Feb 21 18:20:01 <DeadWeasel>	coingenuity: that's awesome.  The most recent thread doesn't make that clear, and new customers will find that first.
Feb 21 18:20:11 <DeadWeasel>	I will update that thread since you've worked so closely with me.
Feb 21 18:20:16 <jurov>	mircea_popescu behind nat you are second class net citizen...just cuz some dumbass misallocated the bits
Feb 21 18:20:43 <coingenuity>	DeadWeasel: thanks, we do our best to be communicative despite being a small company with people working 20 hour days, lmao
Feb 21 18:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i don't get it ?
Feb 21 18:21:48 <jurov>	you share ip address with other users and nobody can connect to your computer directly, you have to initiate the connection or it has to involve third party
Feb 21 18:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that nobody can connect directly to my terminal is perfect.
Feb 21 18:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	why should they, why would they.
Feb 21 18:22:24 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: but i want to!
Feb 21 18:22:26 <coingenuity>	>.>
Feb 21 18:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	and i don't share the connection at all. i own the ip ranges and i use nat routers pretty much everwhere
Feb 21 18:22:41 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, firewall is for that purpose
Feb 21 18:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol coingenuity
Feb 21 18:23:06 <jurov>	mircea_popescu i pay 4 euros/mo for ip addy
Feb 21 18:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i trust a router more than some software solution.
Feb 21 18:23:12 <jurov>	it's normal around
Feb 21 18:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063433 = 2.7409 BTC [-]
Feb 21 18:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00063402 = 2.9032 BTC [-]
Feb 21 18:23:41 <jurov>	firewall can be dedicated, too
Feb 21 18:23:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 449 @ 0.00063654 = 0.2858 BTC [+]
Feb 21 18:23:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063688 = 2.752 BTC [+]
Feb 21 18:23:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7030 @ 0.00063688 = 4.4773 BTC [+]
Feb 21 18:24:02 <jurov>	and i really hope your router isn't $10 crap if you trust it so much
Feb 21 18:24:05 <mircea_popescu>	well sure. but a router is an inexpensive, widely available, easily deployable well specified item
Feb 21 18:24:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's perfect, i don't see whythe hate.
Feb 21 18:24:50 <pigeons>	nothing wrong with routers, for routing.
Feb 21 18:25:57 <jurov>	it's like... when i got my first non-dialup connection (by putting computer with wificard to attic and scanning the ether lol)
Feb 21 18:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	well sure, as a solution to the ip limit problem they're kludgy
Feb 21 18:26:10 <jurov>	it was fascinating i can put anything on the computer
Feb 21 18:26:23 <jurov>	and anyone in the world can come and see it, use it
Feb 21 18:26:29 <jurov>	just, freedom
Feb 21 18:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Feb 21 18:26:41 <jurov>	behing nat you cant do it
Feb 21 18:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	i don't want to do it.
Feb 21 18:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	and i specifically get non-wireless routers at that.
Feb 21 18:27:11 <jurov>	cuz you can pay $$ to get the server elsewhere
Feb 21 18:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	the isp ppl were looking at me like i was a talking bear or something
Feb 21 18:27:36 <jurov>	my crazy ideas like public linux shell server aren't welcome at any hosting
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Feb 21 18:27:57 <jurov>	at least not like at such price it earns
Feb 21 18:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	well wtf, why run a public shell
Feb 21 18:28:37 <jurov>	just for fun... and being able to do stuff from behind comapny firewall
Feb 21 18:28:45 <jurov>	that doesn't allow ssh
Feb 21 18:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	what is this, the semi competent half serious hacker ?
Feb 21 18:30:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00587398 = 11.748 BTC [-]
Feb 21 18:30:06 <jurov>	okay, you play elsewhere
Feb 21 18:31:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063679 = 2.7516 BTC [-]
Feb 21 18:31:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5679 @ 0.00063688 = 3.6168 BTC [+]
Feb 21 18:32:49 <jurov>	and you know any "fully competent" and "serious" hackers?
Feb 21 18:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	yes. also pornstars, escorts, dope dealers, politicians, investors, actresses and rockstars.
Feb 21 18:34:35 <jurov>	and were they so competent and serious in their 20s, too?
Feb 21 18:34:59 <jurov>	heck, even 30s. lol
Feb 21 18:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	actually most hackers give up hacking by the time they're 30
Feb 21 18:35:18 <mircea_popescu>	move on to more respectable endeavours like playing games and shit.
Feb 21 18:36:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3158 @ 0.00063688 = 2.0113 BTC [+]
Feb 21 18:36:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10058 @ 0.00063689 = 6.4058 BTC [+]
Feb 21 18:37:33 <midnightmagic>	jurov: Nope. I made a comment about it while you were talking with petertodd but I think it was lost in the scrollback.
Feb 21 18:37:49 <jurov>	ah now i remember
Feb 21 18:39:13 <jurov>	but i think wherther ipv6 is good or not, was besides the point
Feb 21 18:39:47 <jurov>	the point is, to allow extending capacity currently well working thing while it is possible
Feb 21 18:41:26 <jurov>	otherwise kludgy hacks ensue
Feb 21 18:41:32 <DeadWeasel>	anybody have any ideas for my shit site I put up with no original content?   http://zeroconfirmations.com
Feb 21 18:42:20 <DeadWeasel>	I figure i could review all my dealings with bitocin related businesses
Feb 21 18:42:29 <DeadWeasel>	or something
Feb 21 18:42:39 <DeadWeasel>	help a brotha out with ideas
Feb 21 18:43:06 <jurov>	bitcoin business reviews would not be bad
Feb 21 18:43:14 <pigeons>	DeadWeasel: fake quote alert on the ben franklin
Feb 21 18:43:23 <DeadWeasel>	haha thanks pigeons
Feb 21 18:43:28 <DeadWeasel>	you never know with that shit
Feb 21 18:43:31 <DeadWeasel>	how did you know?
Feb 21 18:43:41 <DeadWeasel>	i'll deal with it later.
Feb 21 18:44:03 <DeadWeasel>	the Woman is yelling at me.  Send me Ideas, they stored in the log
Feb 21 18:44:16 <pigeons>	cause its the declaration of independence not the constitution that mentions "pursuit of happiness (property)"
Feb 21 18:44:58 <pigeons>	well, really cause he never said that
Feb 21 18:48:07 <jurov>	quote Linus Torvalds instead: Bitcoin is user friendly. It just chooses who his friends are.
Feb 21 18:51:38 <kakobrekla>	DeadWeasel, you can change anon to pseudonymous to be more correct
Feb 21 18:52:11 <jurov>	or "He Who Shall Not Be Named"
Feb 21 18:52:15 <kakobrekla>	DeadWeasel and id put drugs on that list on the last place if needs to be
Feb 21 18:52:58 <jurov>	and third row should be "Virtual Private Shows"
Feb 21 18:53:53 <DeadWeasel>	I have two minutes, those are all awesome suggestions and will be fixed
Feb 21 18:54:05 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 21 18:54:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.80009, Best ask: 29.80010, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 29.80000, 24 hour volume: 34766.89802243, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.97800, 24 hour vwap: 29.68182
Feb 21 18:54:31 <DeadWeasel>	awesome stuff.  I put this together in two hours with no idea for content. The first paragraph is too preachy I think
Feb 21 18:54:45 <kakobrekla>	tldr
Feb 21 18:54:53 <DeadWeasel>	I'll reorder and word much.  It won't go truly live until I have some content
Feb 21 18:54:56 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: where you at?
Feb 21 18:54:57 <DeadWeasel>	but I wanted ya'll input
Feb 21 18:55:01 <DeadWeasel>	thank you!
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Feb 21 18:55:14 <DeadWeasel>	pigeons, good to know, thx
Feb 21 18:55:38 <jurov>	and you forgot bitcoin investments completely
Feb 21 18:55:41 <DeadWeasel>	so I'll stick to the reviews Idea
Feb 21 18:55:53 <jurov>	being on #bitcoin-assets, quite weird :)
Feb 21 18:55:54 <DeadWeasel>	I'll review investments as I try them
Feb 21 18:56:04 <DeadWeasel>	bitfunder is my only experience
Feb 21 18:56:08 *	none is now known as BTCTRader
Feb 21 18:56:09 <DeadWeasel>	i'm not an mpex high roller
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Feb 21 18:56:16 <DeadWeasel>	just a peon
Feb 21 18:56:33 <jurov>	you can try coinbr, i have some tips for bugs
Feb 21 18:56:34 <kakobrekla>	yeah #bitcoin-assets got its own page, its just not public yet
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Feb 21 18:56:39 <DeadWeasel>	i'll go through this log after dinner and make adjustments.  This is great stuff.
Feb 21 18:56:49 <jurov>	so you can write scathing review
Feb 21 18:56:52 *	Guest27829 is now known as Bitcoiner
Feb 21 18:56:56 <DeadWeasel>	jurov: thanks!   hahaha, you can let me know
Feb 21 18:57:03 *	Bitcoiner is now known as BitcoinD
Feb 21 18:57:04 <DeadWeasel>	I'll have to sort out comments
Feb 21 18:57:23 <DeadWeasel>	gotta roll before lady get's mad.
Feb 21 18:57:40 <kakobrekla>	domesticate her differently.
Feb 21 18:57:49 <jurov>	oh, you're here instead in bed with wife? good lad
Feb 21 19:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00063673 = 10.7607 BTC [-]
Feb 21 19:01:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063411 = 3.1706 BTC [-]
Feb 21 19:01:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 364 @ 0.00063403 = 0.2308 BTC [-]
Feb 21 19:02:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00584883 = 2.9244 BTC [-]
Feb 21 19:02:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00584883 = 1.7546 BTC [-]
Feb 21 19:02:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00584882 = 2.9244 BTC [-]
Feb 21 19:07:02 *	burnside_afk is now known as burnside
Feb 21 19:07:08 <burnside>	hey all, how goes it?
Feb 21 19:09:01 <burnside>	kakobrekla I've seen a few mentions of LTC-GLOBAL here.  I didn't really think there would be, but if there's interest in tying that in for trading I'm happy to.
Feb 21 19:09:15 <burnside>	could probably convert to btc on the fly or something if that made more sense.
Feb 21 19:09:34 <burnside>	with assbot that is
Feb 21 19:09:39 <thestringpuller>	18:35 < mircea_popescu> actually most hackers give up hacking by the time they're 30
Feb 21 19:10:21 <thestringpuller>	18:35 < mircea_popescu> actually most hackers give up hacking by the time they're 30 << http://24.media.tumblr.com/9a38d3e2ad6140232d68005eaa93409f/tumblr_mfr20sz41o1rmoufuo1_500.gif
Feb 21 19:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00063689 = 3.7577 BTC [+]
Feb 21 19:17:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063415 = 2.7402 BTC [-]
Feb 21 19:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10044 @ 0.00063403 = 6.3682 BTC [-]
Feb 21 19:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3507 @ 0.00063402 = 2.2235 BTC [-]
Feb 21 19:20:39 <Bowjob>	so any idea why dice tanked?
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Feb 21 19:22:46 <BitHub>	its tanking?
Feb 21 19:23:10 <pigeons>	no
Feb 21 19:23:28 <pigeons>	down a little today
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Feb 21 19:24:32 <Bowjob>	kinda far from .73
Feb 21 19:25:20 <burnside>	I bought in right before the big 2 mil sale, heh.  couldn't have timed it worse.
Feb 21 19:26:32 <Bowjob>	that whale is gonna have to work lots of hours at mcdicks
Feb 21 19:26:40 <Bowjob>	to make up for his 37k btc loss
Feb 21 19:27:02 <Namworld>	Just one million
Feb 21 19:27:04 <burnside>	maybe sleep in a cot in the corner
Feb 21 19:27:26 <Namworld>	That guy probably had the most fun of his life gambling. His 1 million lasted quite a long time for many bets
Feb 21 19:27:56 <Bowjob>	he still has around 3k left
Feb 21 19:28:03 <Bowjob>	i wonder why hed stop
Feb 21 19:28:58 <Namworld>	He's waiting for his 3k to be worth 1 million
Feb 21 19:29:09 <Namworld>	xD
Feb 21 19:29:14 <burnside>	might not be all that long.  heh
Feb 21 19:30:12 <Bowjob>	he'd be better if he just sat with his 40k
Feb 21 19:30:13 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 19:30:35 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Feb 21 19:30:38 <Bowjob>	It closed now
Feb 21 19:30:46 <Bowjob>	900 vs 800 BTC
Feb 21 19:30:51 <Bowjob>	I hope the 900 wins
Feb 21 19:32:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.00065 = 0.0039 BTC [+]
Feb 21 19:33:31 <Namworld>	I hope people buy more of these PT of mine
Feb 21 19:34:10 <Namworld>	I need to cycle selling and buying more. Reach a worthwhile outstanding amount.
Feb 21 19:35:26 <DeadWeasel>	jurov:  VPS, virutal private shows?
Feb 21 19:35:40 <DeadWeasel>	jurov: you mean cams?
Feb 21 19:35:44 <DeadWeasel>	you pulling my chain
Feb 21 19:35:45 <DeadWeasel>	?
Feb 21 19:36:31 <Bowjob>	Oh hoh ho
Feb 21 19:36:34 <Bowjob>	 Sticky: 20 - 31 cm of snow is enough to paralyse bfl.location
Feb 21 19:39:04 <Namworld>	DeadWeasel, what?
Feb 21 19:40:12 <DeadWeasel>	he's giving me feedback on a total shit site I just jammed up on an EC2 server.
Feb 21 19:47:15 <Namworld>	ah
Feb 21 19:49:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063601 = 2.7482 BTC [+]
Feb 21 19:49:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22479 @ 0.00063596 = 14.2957 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 19:52:51 <thestringpuller>	Namworld:
Feb 21 19:52:53 <thestringpuller>	i msged you
Feb 21 19:52:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2971 @ 0.00063596 = 1.8894 BTC [-]
Feb 21 19:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13229 @ 0.00063402 = 8.3875 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 20:05:01 <DeadWeasel>	here are my updates:   http://54.235.171.204/zero.html
Feb 21 20:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4142 @ 0.00063689 = 2.638 BTC [+]
Feb 21 20:06:43 <DeadWeasel>	Namworld: , kakobrekla , pigeons http://54.235.171.204/zero.html
Feb 21 20:06:45 <pigeons>	Ukto: who are these guys? https://bitfunder.com/asset/ASIC.COOP
Feb 21 20:08:39 <usagi>	ciuciu
Feb 21 20:08:53 <DeadWeasel>	usagi:  give me input if you have time  http://54.235.171.204/zero.html
Feb 21 20:09:05 <usagi>	Well DeadWeasel my question is, why are you making it?
Feb 21 20:09:19 <usagi>	If your trying to convert people into bitcoin, as I said in PM I personally prefer a softer sell
Feb 21 20:09:24 <DeadWeasel>	usagi: I DON"T KNOW
Feb 21 20:09:30 <usagi>	That's a good reason.
Feb 21 20:09:31 <BitHub>	looks a bit dodgy pigeons
Feb 21 20:09:37 <BitHub>	i wouldn't buy any :/
Feb 21 20:09:45 <usagi>	Not many people could admit that. They would try and invent a reason.
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Feb 21 20:09:50 <DeadWeasel>	usagi: I think i will mostly do reviews of services I've used
Feb 21 20:09:58 <DeadWeasel>	and continue to use.  become the angies list of bitcoin services
Feb 21 20:10:03 <DeadWeasel>	my idea anyway
Feb 21 20:10:15 <usagi>	knowledge is power.
Feb 21 20:10:16 <BitHub>	ASIC.COOP owns a 3 BitForce Single SC order. The order date is July 14th 2012. - and they want 1btc a share?
Feb 21 20:10:18 <DeadWeasel>	reputation based currency, reputation directory
Feb 21 20:10:19 <BitHub>	are they serious?
Feb 21 20:10:23 *	BitHub smells a scam
Feb 21 20:10:28 <DeadWeasel>	hahahahaha, asic.coop
Feb 21 20:10:31 <DeadWeasel>	BS
Feb 21 20:10:33 <pigeons>	DeadWeasel: check out stuffexists.com for inspiration on angies list type thing. needs updating though
Feb 21 20:10:40 <DeadWeasel>	thanks!
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Feb 21 20:12:07 <DeadWeasel>	pigeons: that is a huge resource.  gracias!
Feb 21 20:15:05 <usagi>	DeaDWeasel what about cryptostocks.com?
Feb 21 20:15:17 <usagi>	They have GMP and a few other half-decent pickings
Feb 21 20:16:04 <Namworld>	yeah but they suck...
Feb 21 20:16:08 <burnside>	deadweasel, I'd be interested in a review of btct.co
Feb 21 20:16:46 <burnside>	if you've used the other exchanges a bit, I'm always looking for ways to improve.
Feb 21 20:17:35 <DeadWeasel>	Only bitfunder and setup an account on btct.co
Feb 21 20:17:45 <usagi>	Crypto::Stocks doesn't suck, they have options trading.
Feb 21 20:17:46 <DeadWeasel>	it would take me a week, since I ahve a full time job.
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Feb 21 20:18:00 <usagi>	The problem with Crypto::Stocks is that there's no quality control on new assets
Feb 21 20:18:01 <DeadWeasel>	But I am going with the review angle.  Just got ot sort it out.  and the rest of the HTML
Feb 21 20:18:15 <DeadWeasel>	burnside: ^^
Feb 21 20:18:31 <DeadWeasel>	usagi: I'll check it out, add it to the list
Feb 21 20:18:36 <burnside>	sounds great, let me know what you come up with.
Feb 21 20:18:42 <burnside>	definitely check out cryptostocks too
Feb 21 20:18:48 <burnside>	and coinbr.com
Feb 21 20:19:00 <DeadWeasel>	it's on my  to do list now.
Feb 21 20:20:01 <burnside>	usagi I think everyone has quality control issues.  it's a huge challenge for all the exchanges.
Feb 21 20:20:19 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 21 20:20:21 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222447 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1328 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4341299.39731 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.90675
Feb 21 20:20:25 <burnside>	even MPEx which has been pretty picky has had some stuff go bad.
Feb 21 20:20:45 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 21 20:20:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC)
Feb 21 20:20:48 <usagi>	One solution is to raise listing fees to 20 BTC
Feb 21 20:21:22 <burnside>	That would definitely help
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Feb 21 20:21:38 <burnside>	I was thinking about having a requirement that you actually have been in business for at least 6 months before listing
Feb 21 20:21:41 <DeadWeasel>	listing fees should be higher
Feb 21 20:21:49 <usagi>	Yeah it's the startups that are a problem
Feb 21 20:21:50 <burnside>	at least for the stocks and bonds
Feb 21 20:21:51 <DeadWeasel>	make it an escrow kind of hting.
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Feb 21 20:23:06 <burnside>	The escrow side of things I've thought a lot about.  The problem is that if the goal is for them to raise funds, well then escrow completely negates the benefit of raising funds.
Feb 21 20:23:29 <burnside>	what's the point of selling shares if the company can't use the cash
Feb 21 20:23:31 <DeadWeasel>	i see.  well, if they want to list, they have to put up the trust cash
Feb 21 20:23:39 <usagi>	inthe real world the only barrier is money
Feb 21 20:23:50 <DeadWeasel>	they will make much more if htey are worht it.  If they do well, it is returned
Feb 21 20:23:55 <usagi>	As long as you pay the exchange fees of ~150 BTC a month your golden
Feb 21 20:24:17 <DeadWeasel>	this is the real world.  it can't always be run by the seat of our pants
Feb 21 20:24:19 <usagi>	Actually that would be good too. Every listed asset has to pay 1 BTC/month to list
Feb 21 20:24:24 <pigeons>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Contracts#Example_3:_Assurance_contracts
Feb 21 20:24:40 <burnside>	one of the things we considered early on was having trading fees higher on the new assets.  would deter traders who are not confident in the new asset.
Feb 21 20:26:08 <DeadWeasel>	to safeguard your good name as an exchange, that is totally worth it.
Feb 21 20:26:18 <DeadWeasel>	even if you have only 5 assets... it's better than 15 with 10 bad
Feb 21 20:26:26 <DeadWeasel>	more money for those 5
Feb 21 20:26:41 <DeadWeasel>	because more trust, more per person, maybe more people if the trust is high enough
Feb 21 20:27:14 <DeadWeasel>	quality over quantity, if you can prove that, you will be the #1 exchange.
Feb 21 20:27:23 <DeadWeasel>	proving that means high standards
Feb 21 20:27:34 <burnside>	that's very true
Feb 21 20:27:43 <DeadWeasel>	mirceaP is not nice, but he keeps out the riff-raff pretty well
Feb 21 20:27:47 <burnside>	that's largely why I put together the moderation system
Feb 21 20:27:59 <DeadWeasel>	i will have to check it out, sorry I haven't yet.  Will do very soon.
Feb 21 20:28:07 <burnside>	hoping that XX voters in the community will be more eyes and ears into scams than just myself
Feb 21 20:28:32 <DeadWeasel>	cannot rely on that. You can trust them, but you MUST VERIFY with your own investigation, personal communcation
Feb 21 20:28:38 <DeadWeasel>	TRUST, but VERIFY
Feb 21 20:28:45 <DeadWeasel>	without that, btc users are fucked
Feb 21 20:28:48 <DeadWeasel>	all of us
Feb 21 20:28:58 <DeadWeasel>	and it's very difficult on here
Feb 21 20:29:17 <DeadWeasel>	OTC is good start, poor execution and easily games, but it's children may be better.
Feb 21 20:29:26 <usagi>	The moderation system has no controls, however.
Feb 21 20:29:40 <DeadWeasel>	gotta see that for myself to even understand it
Feb 21 20:30:15 <burnside>	controls in which sense?
Feb 21 20:30:46 <usagi>	I can create an account and vote yes or no on a whim
Feb 21 20:30:54 <pigeons>	burnside did sniff out a user transferring shares for the purpose of voting to get an asset approved and made appropriate changes to the system
Feb 21 20:30:57 <usagi>	or leave misleading or mischaracterizing comments
Feb 21 20:31:04 <usagi>	And the issuer has no way to respond to those comments.
Feb 21 20:31:14 <usagi>	Personally you shouldn't be able to leave comments anonymously.
Feb 21 20:31:17 <DeadWeasel>	the whole asset thing i feel can be gamed by someone with enough cash and know-how
Feb 21 20:31:24 <DeadWeasel>	ont he small exchanges, anyway
Feb 21 20:31:28 <usagi>	If your going to run a court-like system people should have the right to see who is downvoting them
Feb 21 20:31:40 <usagi>	Or at least respond to comments, the way it's set up now leads to abuse.
Feb 21 20:32:55 <burnside>	creating the account to vote you now have to wait 7 days, not impossible, but spendy and a pita
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Feb 21 20:32:59 <pigeons>	i assume people will go to the url in your contract to look for the other side of the story
Feb 21 20:33:07 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 21 20:33:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.79028, Best ask: 29.89690, Bid-ask spread: 0.10662, Last trade: 29.79028, 24 hour volume: 35115.23774819, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.97800, 24 hour vwap: 29.68355
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Feb 21 20:33:42 <burnside>	I'm going to implement something that will show the public each mods vote history as well.  it'll still be anon, but if patterns don't match up, then some abuse will get caught
Feb 21 20:34:00 <usagi>	I was also really suprised at some of the stuff that got passed.
Feb 21 20:34:17 <usagi>	Some anonymous stuff which seemed amateurish got passed through relatively quickly
Feb 21 20:34:25 <burnside>	working on a way to respond to the comments too, it'll be a generic shoutbox kind of thing, but should help out.
Feb 21 20:34:32 <usagi>	I just think it needs oversight, but thats just a personal idea ;)
Feb 21 20:35:26 <usagi>	Kind of like a middle way, between total moderator control and the usual, which is where the exchange operator approves or denies everything.
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Feb 21 20:36:44 <burnside>	yeah, I'm not going to be a judge at a podium determining who passes and fails.  I don't think I have the necessary skills to be fair about it.
Feb 21 20:37:19 <usagi>	So why do you think anyone else does?
Feb 21 20:37:42 <burnside>	I don't.  I think just like GLBSE, it's going to end up being a fatal flaw in some of the other exchanges.
Feb 21 20:38:10 <burnside>	I do however feel like a pool of people with a vested interest in the well being of the exchange will do a better job.
Feb 21 20:38:42 <usagi>	yes I agree :)
Feb 21 20:39:40 <burnside>	Surely the decision to list or not list an asset on the NYSE does not come down to just one person.  I need to look into it more, but I'm almost certain there's some kind of board that gets together and works things out.
Feb 21 20:39:59 <burnside>	Of course, money talks, but you get the idea.
Feb 21 20:40:00 <usagi>	You need a lawyer and you need financial reports and you need exchange fees
Feb 21 20:40:14 <usagi>	It's basically money, but there are strict reporting requirements too.
Feb 21 20:40:22 <burnside>	I have the lawyer, that's why it's setup the way it is.
Feb 21 20:40:30 <usagi>	You have to publish quarterly reports and they need to be audited iirc
Feb 21 20:40:43 <usagi>	Like what I'
Feb 21 20:40:53 <usagi>	'm doing with Tu.SILVER hiring DeaDTerra to audit the books
Feb 21 20:41:02 <burnside>	Belize I just have to do an annual report for taxes.
Feb 21 20:41:09 <usagi>	That would also create a new employment sector in the community if you required auditing
Feb 21 20:41:31 <burnside>	The rest of the reporting I'll probably be able to code into the exchange so you could pull a report automatically if you're a current shareholder.
Feb 21 20:42:16 <usagi>	Well on BitFunder I can attach photos and documents to my business's profile page
Feb 21 20:42:16 <burnside>	We'll need to grow significantly before we can afford auditing, but it would definitely be a good problem to have.  ;)
Feb 21 20:42:33 <burnside>	Yeah, I like that feature, very cool.
Feb 21 20:42:37 <usagi>	No, require the companies to get their own books audited
Feb 21 20:42:47 <usagi>	On their own $ too.
Feb 21 20:43:04 <usagi>	If a company can't pay exchange fees and can't pay someone to audit their books they don't make money and they are not wanted.
Feb 21 20:43:05 <usagi>	seriously.
Feb 21 20:43:10 <burnside>	I get nervous about stuff like that though.  5 BTC and a user could attach a doc with a virus in it, guaranteed to reach all of the site mods.  Dangerous.
Feb 21 20:43:37 <burnside>	Ahhh, I gotcha, that makes sense.
Feb 21 20:43:51 <BitHub>	there's two phrases that scare the shit out of me "Hi, we're the government and we're here to help you with your business"
Feb 21 20:43:53 <usagi>	You can put a virus in a jpeg apparently
Feb 21 20:43:57 <burnside>	The exchange fees for the asset issuers is a vector I hadn't considered.  I'll definitely think about it.
Feb 21 20:44:37 <burnside>	yeah, jpeg, png, pdf, they all have attack vectors unfortunately
Feb 21 20:45:18 <burnside>	so while I love the feature, and would love to implement it, you kind of get a feel for the things I have to take into account.
Feb 21 20:45:55 <burnside>	I need like two different versions of a command line AV scanner in place first.  heh.
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Feb 21 20:46:24 <burnside>	even that wouldnt' catch hand-crafted attacks
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Feb 21 20:53:47 <Bugpowder>	here we go
Feb 21 20:53:51 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 21 20:53:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.79041, Best ask: 29.93315, Bid-ask spread: 0.14274, Last trade: 29.79038, 24 hour volume: 38554.58576011, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.00000, 24 hour vwap: 29.71137
Feb 21 20:54:50 <burnside>	catch y'all later.  time to clock out.
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Feb 21 20:56:35 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 30
Feb 21 20:56:37 <gribble>	There are currently 5050.5032 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 151511.635244 USD in total.
Feb 21 20:56:42 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 29
Feb 21 20:56:43 <gribble>	There are currently 7131.364 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 209361.72919 USD in total.
Feb 21 20:58:42 <Bowjob>	We reached 30 high
Feb 21 20:58:44 <Bowjob>	GG fuckers
Feb 21 20:58:45 <Bowjob>	:D
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Feb 21 21:02:02 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 21 21:02:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.89000, Best ask: 29.93314, Bid-ask spread: 0.04314, Last trade: 29.89000, 24 hour volume: 38502.76342113, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.00000, 24 hour vwap: 29.71217
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Feb 21 21:06:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00063705 = 7.8676 BTC [+]
Feb 21 21:07:15 <Bugpowder>	Bowjob: How is that S.DICE price doing???
Feb 21 21:07:39 <Bowjob>	Profits seem to be up, that dump by erik didnt help speculators
Feb 21 21:07:52 <Bugpowder>	what dump?
Feb 21 21:07:56 <Bowjob>	But its no where near your 0.2 predictions
Feb 21 21:07:59 <Bugpowder>	did he sell another million?
Feb 21 21:08:16 <Bowjob>	i dont know, there was a recent sell of, who knows from where
Feb 21 21:08:21 <Bowjob>	*off
Feb 21 21:08:25 <Bugpowder>	I think he would ahve annouced it
Feb 21 21:08:36 <Bowjob>	could be from a profiteer
Feb 21 21:08:53 <Namworld>	Well someone selling 1+ million is not unheard of...
Feb 21 21:08:54 <Bugpowder>	Well.  The funny thing is, right when a new address shows up with some decent coin, the selloff finally starts
Feb 21 21:08:56 <Bowjob>	It probably wont hit the 0.2 target price you're lookinh for
Feb 21 21:09:02 <Bugpowder>	We will see
Feb 21 21:09:09 <Bugpowder>	 if more addresses come online
Feb 21 21:09:12 <Bugpowder>	then it wont
Feb 21 21:09:14 <Bowjob>	Maybe I'll sell just before the dividends
Feb 21 21:09:19 <Bowjob>	but I see a few baby whales
Feb 21 21:09:27 <Bugpowder>	It hasn't dropped after divvys last two times
Feb 21 21:09:33 <Bugpowder>	surprisingsly
Feb 21 21:09:38 <Bowjob>	probably down this time around
Feb 21 21:09:43 <pigeons>	yeah i would at least take your dividends
Feb 21 21:09:54 <Bugpowder>	Yah could be the last great month
Feb 21 21:09:58 <Bowjob>	well.. i speculate the dividends will go down
Feb 21 21:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8848 @ 0.00063705 = 5.6366 BTC [+]
Feb 21 21:10:08 <Bowjob>	i mean the share price will go down
Feb 21 21:10:11 <Bowjob>	after the dividends
Feb 21 21:10:12 <Bugpowder>	Or we could just be warming up!
Feb 21 21:10:22 <Bowjob>	so i need to sell the shares before this thing tanks..
Feb 21 21:10:24 <Bowjob>	or goes to the moon
Feb 21 21:10:56 <Bowjob>	right now its looking stable condition
Feb 21 21:11:06 <Bowjob>	pretty soon those whales will figure out they cant win.. lol
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Feb 21 21:11:45 <Bowjob>	also it seems that bfl wont ship theirs this month
Feb 21 21:12:02 <pigeons>	yeah because gamblers always learn
Feb 21 21:13:53 <Namworld>	Bowjob: I'm pretty sure most already know they can't win...
Feb 21 21:13:54 <Bowjob>	We'll still go up from 30
Feb 21 21:14:08 <Namworld>	and gamble for fun and to show they have lots of spare money
Feb 21 21:14:22 <Bowjob>	Theres this dude, proudhon.. quite a bear. if he turns into a bull, we know the things gonna crash
Feb 21 21:14:23 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 21:14:50 <Namworld>	Thing is gonna crash no matter what
Feb 21 21:15:20 <Bowjob>	of course.. crash
Feb 21 21:15:20 <Bugpowder>	;;asks
Feb 21 21:15:21 <gribble>	(asks [--over] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoins for sale at or under <pricetarget>. If '--over' option is given, find coins or at or over <pricetarget>.
Feb 21 21:15:22 <Bowjob>	upwards
Feb 21 21:15:24 <Bowjob>	:)
Feb 21 21:15:27 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 30
Feb 21 21:15:29 <gribble>	There are currently 3601.3139 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 108039.417301 USD in total.
Feb 21 21:15:31 <Namworld>	No, downward
Feb 21 21:15:34 <Bugpowder>	I'm taking 15% off the table
Feb 21 21:15:58 <DeadWeasel>	;ticker
Feb 21 21:15:59 <Bugpowder>	as soon as I get 6 confirms
Feb 21 21:16:01 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 21 21:16:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.91002, Best ask: 29.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08997, Last trade: 29.91000, 24 hour volume: 42286.15180078, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.00000, 24 hour vwap: 29.73967
Feb 21 21:16:28 <Namworld>	and wall @ 30 is breaking
Feb 21 21:16:29 <Bugpowder>	the 30 wall is getting eaten fucking fast now that we are touching it
Feb 21 21:16:43 <Bugpowder>	people know that once it goes, we go up a dollar
Feb 21 21:16:44 <Bugpowder>	fast
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Feb 21 21:18:09 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 21 21:18:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.05000, Best ask: 30.09999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 30.10000, 24 hour volume: 44229.13560627, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.10000, 24 hour vwap: 29.75268
Feb 21 21:18:14 <DeadWeasel>	going
Feb 21 21:18:19 <Bugpowder>	gone
Feb 21 21:18:23 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 21 21:18:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.05000, Best ask: 30.17900, Bid-ask spread: 0.12900, Last trade: 30.17900, 24 hour volume: 44329.13560627, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.17900, 24 hour vwap: 29.75355
Feb 21 21:18:29 <DeadWeasel>	fast
Feb 21 21:18:47 <DeadWeasel>	whales fucking slingshot us over
Feb 21 21:19:12 <Bugpowder>	time to pull my call sales
Feb 21 21:19:48 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 21 21:21:16 <DeadWeasel>	um, whats a call sale?
Feb 21 21:21:25 <DeadWeasel>	you put in a sell at a $30?
Feb 21 21:21:35 <DeadWeasel>	ignoramus needs education
Feb 21 21:21:51 <Bugpowder>	mpex options
Feb 21 21:21:56 <DeadWeasel>	thx
Feb 21 21:22:02 <Bowjob>	suppose we hit 32
Feb 21 21:22:05 <Bowjob>	the what
Feb 21 21:22:14 <Bugpowder>	I was selling $25, 26 and 27s.
Feb 21 21:23:22 <DeadWeasel>	then my investment is safe.  and I'm making 1500, plus some btc left over to try to increase on lows/highs on gox
Feb 21 21:23:33 <DeadWeasel>	get my btc back on drops
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Feb 21 21:25:43 <Namworld>	someone buy all my PT shares. I wanna be the guy who sells at the top.
Feb 21 21:25:58 <Namworld>	I'm holding too many shares right now.
Feb 21 21:26:07 <DeadWeasel>	pt shares?
Feb 21 21:26:23 <Bugpowder>	passthru/
Feb 21 21:26:35 <Bugpowder>	argh
Feb 21 21:26:46 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 21 21:26:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.20000, Best ask: 30.23000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 30.20000, 24 hour volume: 44696.56851652, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.75824
Feb 21 21:26:51 <DeadWeasel>	going to 31
Feb 21 21:27:02 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 21 21:27:03 <gribble>	1 BTC = 30.30000 U.S. dollars = 22.6322079 Euros
Feb 21 21:27:09 <Namworld>	I'm selling S.DICE/S.MPOE/S.BBET on BTCT.co for those who can't pay 30 BTC for an MPEx account.
Feb 21 21:27:46 <DeadWeasel>	thank jebus, that wall is resetting down near 31
Feb 21 21:27:51 <DeadWeasel>	we'll see though
Feb 21 21:28:07 <Bowjob>	guys
Feb 21 21:28:10 <Bowjob>	I figured it out
Feb 21 21:28:12 <Bowjob>	.!!!
Feb 21 21:28:17 <Bowjob>	Why the recent price surge
Feb 21 21:28:18 <Bowjob>	http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/22/dead_bear_killed_and_poached.jpg
Feb 21 21:28:18 <DeadWeasel>	;;asks 31.25
Feb 21 21:28:20 <gribble>	There are currently 4662.0557 bitcoins offered at or under 31.25 USD, worth 143761.456325 USD in total.
Feb 21 21:28:20 <Bowjob>	:D
Feb 21 21:29:21 <Namworld>	lol... someone bought bitcoins and killed all the bears...
Feb 21 21:29:26 <DeadWeasel>	this is insane buying.  plutocracy of whales
Feb 21 21:29:44 <DeadWeasel>	eatne up
Feb 21 21:30:18 <Bugpowder>	fuk u gox.  I got 8 confirms
Feb 21 21:30:21 <Bugpowder>	where is my coins
Feb 21 21:30:33 <DeadWeasel>	me too
Feb 21 21:30:35 <DeadWeasel>	piss me off
Feb 21 21:31:01 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 21 21:31:06 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 30
Feb 21 21:31:09 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Feb 21 21:31:09 <Bugpowder>	maybe this will just make me more money
Feb 21 21:31:10 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 21 21:31:11 <Chaang-Noi>	hehe
Feb 21 21:31:13 <DeadWeasel>	ha
Feb 21 21:31:13 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 31
Feb 21 21:31:15 <gribble>	There are currently 3364.4518 bitcoins offered at or under 31.0 USD, worth 103884.668102 USD in total.
Feb 21 21:31:17 <DeadWeasel>	awesome
Feb 21 21:31:20 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 32
Feb 21 21:31:21 <DeadWeasel>	here we go
Feb 21 21:31:22 <gribble>	There are currently 13676.531 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 431569.109649 USD in total.
Feb 21 21:31:47 <Bowjob>	This is some historic shit going on
Feb 21 21:32:05 <DeadWeasel>	stop before 32?
Feb 21 21:32:07 <Bowjob>	Guys are we growing too fast??
Feb 21 21:32:09 <DeadWeasel>	next plateaut?
Feb 21 21:32:12 <DeadWeasel>	ahahaha
Feb 21 21:32:14 <DeadWeasel>	yes Bowjob
Feb 21 21:32:24 <DeadWeasel>	but profit now, ask questions later
Feb 21 21:32:28 <Bowjob>	LOL
Feb 21 21:32:28 <DeadWeasel>	it may crash, we buy back
Feb 21 21:32:29 <Bowjob>	:D
Feb 21 21:32:43 <Bowjob>	K, sell at 32, buy back at $1?
Feb 21 21:32:54 <DeadWeasel>	damn right, closer to 6-10, but yes
Feb 21 21:33:06 <Namworld>	I don't think it will crash to 1 this time.
Feb 21 21:33:09 <Bowjob>	Getting slightly nervous now
Feb 21 21:33:16 <Namworld>	We might just go to 50 and crash to 10.
Feb 21 21:33:18 <Bowjob>	We are going way too effing high
Feb 21 21:33:31 <Bowjob>	Id prefer 1-2 dollars per month
Feb 21 21:33:45 <kakobrekla>	too bad its not about what you prefer
Feb 21 21:33:47 <Bugpowder>	I would prefer $50 tonight
Feb 21 21:33:47 <Bowjob>	I made a bullshit prediction picture, lemme see if i can find it
Feb 21 21:34:01 <pigeons>	http://loophole4all.com/
Feb 21 21:34:04 <Bowjob>	the real results are even better
Feb 21 21:34:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 5 @ 0.58 = 2.9 BTC [-]
Feb 21 21:34:23 <DeadWeasel>	they are good fun
Feb 21 21:34:58 <DeadWeasel>	3.42 K to get to 01
Feb 21 21:35:01 <DeadWeasel>	31
Feb 21 21:35:06 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 21 21:35:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.46999, Best ask: 30.47000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 30.46999, 24 hour volume: 45550.22658526, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.55000, 24 hour vwap: 29.77235
Feb 21 21:36:17 <DeadWeasel>	struggle to break 31, sell bell curve around 31.50
Feb 21 21:36:37 <DeadWeasel>	tiny transactoins, penny bot HAMMERING
Feb 21 21:36:37 <Bowjob>	how come gox shows at 30.5
Feb 21 21:36:38 <Bowjob>	for me
Feb 21 21:36:39 <DeadWeasel>	UP UP UP
Feb 21 21:37:00 <DeadWeasel>	I just saw 30 buys at .10 up up up
Feb 21 21:37:16 <DeadWeasel>	someone is jamming this thing hard
Feb 21 21:37:22 <Bugpowder>	god
Feb 21 21:37:27 <Bugpowder>	I lost so much money on Seal
Feb 21 21:37:30 <Bugpowder>	seals
Feb 21 21:37:35 <DeadWeasel>	probably let lemming fill in, then dump at 6:50AM eastern time.
Feb 21 21:37:39 <DeadWeasel>	I've noticed that trend
Feb 21 21:37:43 <Bugpowder>	150BTC was not that much back when I started
Feb 21 21:37:49 <Bugpowder>	fuck an a
Feb 21 21:38:09 <kakobrekla>	yeah when i feel bad, i think of a pizza guy.
Feb 21 21:38:13 <DeadWeasel>	hahaha
Feb 21 21:38:15 <DeadWeasel>	pizza guy
Feb 21 21:38:25 <DeadWeasel>	he did a service to us all. the first real media
Feb 21 21:38:34 <DeadWeasel>	here's to pizza guy
Feb 21 21:38:47 <Bugpowder>	seriously though 9 confirms
Feb 21 21:38:50 <Bugpowder>	where are mah coins
Feb 21 21:38:55 <Bugpowder>	This is why its going up
Feb 21 21:38:55 <DeadWeasel>	i'm at 5
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Feb 21 21:39:00 <Bugpowder>	nobody can get their coins in
Feb 21 21:39:04 <DeadWeasel>	cos nobody can get btc in
Feb 21 21:39:09 <Bugpowder>	30.65
Feb 21 21:39:12 <kakobrekla>	i have about 50 there
Feb 21 21:39:19 <kakobrekla>	if anyone wants em
Feb 21 21:39:38 <Bugpowder>	nah
Feb 21 21:39:45 <Bugpowder>	I will wait
Feb 21 21:39:57 <Namworld>	MtGox says: No one deposits/sell before we do... all sales suspended
Feb 21 21:40:03 <Namworld>	We rich, you suck
Feb 21 21:40:10 <DeadWeasel>	haha
Feb 21 21:40:14 <DeadWeasel>	true that
Feb 21 21:41:15 <DeadWeasel>	stuck on 5 txns
Feb 21 21:41:18 <DeadWeasel>	shittles
Feb 21 21:41:28 <DeadWeasel>	good times tonight, folks.
Feb 21 21:41:31 <Bugpowder>	funded
Feb 21 21:41:35 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap Bugpowder
Feb 21 21:41:37 *	gribble slaps Bugpowder with a humid gat
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Feb 21 21:41:46 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap truffles
Feb 21 21:41:47 *	gribble slaps truffles with a out of line carafe
Feb 21 21:41:53 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap DeadWeasel
Feb 21 21:41:54 *	gribble slaps DeadWeasel with a deep-fried manliness
Feb 21 21:41:57 <DeadWeasel>	nice
Feb 21 21:42:12 <kakobrekla>	stop with the unnecessary spam
Feb 21 21:42:15 <Bugpowder>	I'm gonna kitll the rally
Feb 21 21:42:19 <DeadWeasel>	sry
Feb 21 21:42:32 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap kakobrekla
Feb 21 21:42:33 *	gribble slaps kakobrekla with a few six-shooter
Feb 21 21:42:34 <DeadWeasel>	i love you man
Feb 21 21:42:37 <DeadWeasel>	:)
Feb 21 21:43:30 <DeadWeasel>	put in your changes to my shite website, btw
Feb 21 21:43:33 <DeadWeasel>	good input
Feb 21 21:43:38 <DeadWeasel>	more will be done tomorrow
Feb 21 21:43:45 <Namworld>	BUGPOWDER, NOT YET!
Feb 21 21:43:58 <Namworld>	WAIT TILL THERE'S A LONG THIN LINE OF BIDS!
Feb 21 21:44:15 <kakobrekla>	THIS IS CAPS LOCK NATION
Feb 21 21:44:18 <Namworld>	then you can sell in multiple mini increments and crash like half a USD/BTC each time
Feb 21 21:44:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i cant load charts lol
Feb 21 21:44:31 <kakobrekla>	wtf is up with ppl here latley, all on drugs.
Feb 21 21:44:37 <Bugpowder>	gawd its so laggy
Feb 21 21:44:47 <Bugpowder>	I have asks below the bid price up for 2 minutes
Feb 21 21:44:47 <DeadWeasel>	gox is hammered
Feb 21 21:44:49 <Bowjob>	We are going to the moon landing!
Feb 21 21:44:54 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm, btc people now have a lot of btc... hmm what can they use them for.. drugs? :)
Feb 21 21:44:58 <kakobrekla>	silk road became too cheap with this btc value rise
Feb 21 21:45:02 <kakobrekla>	errybodys doing it
Feb 21 21:45:06 <Bowjob>	You know what.. this place is full of noise!!
Feb 21 21:45:17 <Bowjob>	The best strat.. is to buy bitcoins and forget them
Feb 21 21:45:17 <Chaang-Noi>	silk road going to be sold out pretty damn soon
Feb 21 21:45:30 <Bowjob>	check in 2 years and find youself a millionaire
Feb 21 21:45:34 <Bowjob>	but Nooooooooooooo
Feb 21 21:45:37 <Namworld>	Bowjob: except the private key, never forget that one.
Feb 21 21:45:46 <Bowjob>	no one simply gets out of bitcoin news
Feb 21 21:47:02 <DeadWeasel>	so, when it crashes, how to do by btc by CC?
Feb 21 21:47:06 <DeadWeasel>	:)
Feb 21 21:47:16 <DeadWeasel>	raised my limit just for that
Feb 21 21:47:30 <kakobrekla>	your actions are useless
Feb 21 21:47:35 <kakobrekla>	would assbot say.
Feb 21 21:48:30 <Bowjob>	Man. wheres my ASIC
Feb 21 21:48:31 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 21:50:59 <DeadWeasel>	sells went up
Feb 21 21:51:01 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 21 21:51:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.24001, Best ask: 30.34990, Bid-ask spread: 0.10989, Last trade: 30.24001, 24 hour volume: 46512.50490835, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.78649
Feb 21 21:51:11 <DeadWeasel>	got out at 30.4
Feb 21 21:52:36 <kakobrekla>	where is your SL ant TP?
Feb 21 21:52:45 <kakobrekla>	and
Feb 21 21:53:17 <DeadWeasel>	less acronyms, more info
Feb 21 21:53:47 <DeadWeasel>	I'm a just small time douche who got in with his life savings and got out with 50% more, plus an extra 100btc to play with now
Feb 21 21:53:51 <Bowjob>	;;ask
Feb 21 21:53:51 <gribble>	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
Feb 21 21:53:56 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 21 21:53:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.14601, Best ask: 30.35899, Bid-ask spread: 0.21298, Last trade: 30.35899, 24 hour volume: 46579.10632984, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.78865
Feb 21 21:54:16 <Bowjob>	maybe someone wants to make the price of bitcoin the same as pi
Feb 21 21:54:24 <Bowjob>	but shift the decimal place over
Feb 21 21:54:40 <kakobrekla>	right
Feb 21 21:54:50 <kakobrekla>	less talk more read
Feb 21 21:55:24 <DeadWeasel>	i need more read, no doubt
Feb 21 21:55:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4351 @ 0.00064073 = 2.7878 BTC [+]
Feb 21 21:55:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064112 = 2.7703 BTC [+]
Feb 21 21:55:42 <Bugpowder>	Time to put the Tesla deposit down :)
Feb 21 21:55:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3673 @ 0.00064113 = 2.3549 BTC [+]
Feb 21 21:55:56 <DeadWeasel>	3.14159265359
Feb 21 21:56:31 <Bugpowder>	265358929323846264338327950288419713939937510
Feb 21 21:56:39 <Bugpowder>	I think....
Feb 21 21:56:42 <Bowjob>	how about 31.4159
Feb 21 21:56:42 <DeadWeasel>	damn skippy
Feb 21 21:56:44 <Bowjob>	:)
Feb 21 21:56:57 <DeadWeasel>	close, with decimal errros
Feb 21 21:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61524 @ 0.00064113 = 39.4449 BTC [+]
Feb 21 21:58:25 <Bugpowder>	Boom
Feb 21 21:58:25 <Bugpowder>	out
Feb 21 21:58:30 <Bugpowder>	done
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Feb 21 21:58:46 <Bugpowder>	now let the rally continue
Feb 21 21:58:49 <Bugpowder>	PLEASE
Feb 21 21:58:56 <Bugpowder>	till tomorrow night at least
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Feb 21 21:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 21 21:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 21 21:59:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.10000, Best ask: 30.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 30.19999, 24 hour volume: 48532.80588620, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.80061
Feb 21 21:59:39 <Bowjob>	Oh no!!
Feb 21 21:59:41 <Bowjob>	We are crashing
Feb 21 21:59:42 <Bowjob>	:/
Feb 21 21:59:43 <DeadWeasel>	seems dead
Feb 21 22:01:26 <DeadWeasel>	dumped 2k in there
Feb 21 22:01:52 <Bugpowder>	btce needs to move a wall
Feb 21 22:02:59 <Bowjob>	I want a wall at 1000
Feb 21 22:03:35 <Diablo-D3>	we need like 5 blocks right htis second
Feb 21 22:03:35 <kakobrekla>	spam detected
Feb 21 22:03:37 <kakobrekla>	manually
Feb 21 22:04:14 <Bugpowder>	TESSSSSSLA
Feb 21 22:04:28 <Bowjob>	I want a bored billionaire play around with BTC
Feb 21 22:04:39 <DeadWeasel>	me too
Feb 21 22:04:57 <DeadWeasel>	yes, got my btc out at 30.3
Feb 21 22:05:00 <DeadWeasel>	now crash
Feb 21 22:05:20 <Diablo-D3>	you do realize
Feb 21 22:05:23 <Diablo-D3>	if I sell my btc now
Feb 21 22:05:29 <Diablo-D3>	btc will go straight to 60
Feb 21 22:05:31 <Bugpowder>	it WILL GO UP
Feb 21 22:05:32 <Bugpowder>	YES
Feb 21 22:05:33 <Bugpowder>	SELL
Feb 21 22:05:34 <Bugpowder>	SELL
Feb 21 22:05:35 <Bugpowder>	SELL
Feb 21 22:05:55 <Diablo-D3>	when I sold a lot of them at 15
Feb 21 22:05:57 <Bowjob>	ah you guys are hysterical
Feb 21 22:06:03 <Diablo-D3>	back before the last peak
Feb 21 22:06:09 <Diablo-D3>	a month later it hit the historical peak
Feb 21 22:06:16 <assbot>	 terrible is what it is.
Feb 21 22:06:20 <Bowjob>	if someone bought at 32.. then forgot about btc
Feb 21 22:06:22 <Bowjob>	and check back now
Feb 21 22:06:26 <Bowjob>	tjheyd be.. hmm
Feb 21 22:06:28 <Bowjob>	nothing wrong
Feb 21 22:06:29 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 22:06:35 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Feb 21 22:06:56 <Bowjob>	thats why.. we need to stop watching the markets
Feb 21 22:07:12 <Diablo-D3>	Im going to make some food
Feb 21 22:07:16 <Diablo-D3>	the send should be done by then
Feb 21 22:07:25 <DeadWeasel>	Bugpowder: go eat, it always goes up
Feb 21 22:07:30 <Bugpowder>	hehe
Feb 21 22:07:35 <Bugpowder>	time to drink actually
Feb 21 22:07:42 <Bugpowder>	We should do a vegas trip
Feb 21 22:07:42 <DeadWeasel>	me too
Feb 21 22:08:05 <Diablo-D3>	but yeahh, Im going to enjoy two monitors again
Feb 21 22:08:09 <Diablo-D3>	my productivity will go though the roof
Feb 21 22:08:20 <DeadWeasel>	two 24s is the shit
Feb 21 22:08:23 <DeadWeasel>	i love it
Feb 21 22:08:25 <Bowjob>	Now I actually want out of Dice now
Feb 21 22:08:31 <Bugpowder>	heh
Feb 21 22:08:32 <DeadWeasel>	me too
Feb 21 22:08:34 <Bugpowder>	I have 3 24s
Feb 21 22:08:39 <Bugpowder>	but
Feb 21 22:08:39 <DeadWeasel>	NICE!
Feb 21 22:08:39 <Diablo-D3>	I have a 26" 1920x1200 and my dead laptop
Feb 21 22:08:43 <Bowjob>	I have 49 shares
Feb 21 22:08:43 <Bugpowder>	its overkill
Feb 21 22:08:46 <Bowjob>	I mean 64 shares
Feb 21 22:08:46 <DeadWeasel>	hhahaha
Feb 21 22:08:47 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 21 22:08:47 <Diablo-D3>	IRC goes on the laptop so it doesnt distract me
Feb 21 22:08:53 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 21 22:08:59 <Bugpowder>	2 24s for matlab
Feb 21 22:09:06 <Bugpowder>	1 24 for laptop
Feb 21 22:09:09 <Bugpowder>	and laptop
Feb 21 22:09:11 <Bugpowder>	ugh
Feb 21 22:09:15 <Diablo-D3>	well Im going to buy one of those monoprice 30s
Feb 21 22:09:18 <Bugpowder>	I am being irradiated
Feb 21 22:09:21 <Diablo-D3>	turn my 26 sideways for my mbp
Feb 21 22:09:26 <Bugpowder>	they make monitors now?
Feb 21 22:09:29 <Diablo-D3>	and then have my 30 for my desktop
Feb 21 22:09:35 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: YES
Feb 21 22:09:37 <Diablo-D3>	DUDE
Feb 21 22:09:47 <Bugpowder>	are they high quality?
Feb 21 22:10:02 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=10235&seq=1&format=1#largeimage
Feb 21 22:10:15 <Diablo-D3>	thats the single dvi version
Feb 21 22:10:21 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=10234&seq=1&format=1#largeimage
Feb 21 22:10:24 <Diablo-D3>	thats the shitload of ports version
Feb 21 22:10:28 <Diablo-D3>	both identically same monitor
Feb 21 22:10:35 <Diablo-D3>	uses the same IPS as all the other 30" IPS screens
Feb 21 22:10:38 <Diablo-D3>	no scaler, no buffer
Feb 21 22:10:38 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 21 22:10:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.19898, Best ask: 30.28730, Bid-ask spread: 0.08832, Last trade: 30.19898, 24 hour volume: 48629.35769652, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.80257
Feb 21 22:10:50 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Feb 21 22:10:56 <Bugpowder>	I may get one for work
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Feb 21 22:11:28 <kakobrekla>	hm, euro dollars, better than btc i guess http://shrani.si/f/r/sY/4j1rT7UB/tmp3f19.png
Feb 21 22:11:56 <DeadWeasel>	http://www.rakuten.com/prod/24-wide-led-monitor/229409964.html?listingId=218720436
Feb 21 22:11:59 <DeadWeasel>	good deal
Feb 21 22:12:37 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: well, I would consider getting 6
Feb 21 22:12:39 <Diablo-D3>	but meh
Feb 21 22:12:48 <Diablo-D3>	thats just a tad overkill
Feb 21 22:13:13 <DeadWeasel>	plus you gotta mount them, good luck
Feb 21 22:13:19 <Bowjob>	;;ask
Feb 21 22:13:19 <gribble>	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
Feb 21 22:13:22 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 21 22:13:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.00001, Best ask: 30.15045, Bid-ask spread: 0.15044, Last trade: 30.15045, 24 hour volume: 49645.07046157, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.80740
Feb 21 22:13:30 <Bowjob>	Oh no! We are crashing!!
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Feb 21 22:14:48 <DeadWeasel>	no
Feb 21 22:15:36 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 21 22:15:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.04084, Best ask: 30.15543, Bid-ask spread: 0.11459, Last trade: 30.15543, 24 hour volume: 49622.64900365, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.80752
Feb 21 22:15:41 <Bowjob>	k nvm
Feb 21 22:15:41 <Bowjob>	klol
Feb 21 22:15:52 <DeadWeasel>	bids coming in
Feb 21 22:16:03 <DeadWeasel>	need some booze, brb
Feb 21 22:16:06 <Bugpowder>	asks coming in you mean
Feb 21 22:16:44 <Bowjob>	why dont we get warren buffet here and ask him if btc will go up or down
Feb 21 22:16:58 <Diablo-D3>	warren buffet doesnt give a shit about forex
Feb 21 22:17:05 <Diablo-D3>	he invests in value not made up shit
Feb 21 22:17:13 *	Diablo-D3 stares at wall street and scowls
Feb 21 22:17:20 <DeadWeasel>	Diablo-D3: damn right
Feb 21 22:18:02 <Diablo-D3>	so, according to goxlive
Feb 21 22:18:13 <Diablo-D3>	it'd cost a million to go to 36
Feb 21 22:18:22 <Diablo-D3>	which is only 25k btc
Feb 21 22:18:53 <Diablo-D3>	but to go to 26 it'd cost 40k btc, worth 1.2 million
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Feb 21 22:18:58 <Diablo-D3>	so I think we're still going up
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Feb 21 22:20:03 <Bugpowder>	Deep
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Feb 21 22:20:18 <Bugpowder>	nope
Feb 21 22:20:20 <Bugpowder>	going down
Feb 21 22:21:05 <Bugpowder>	u no wat wuld be so fune
Feb 21 22:21:11 <Bugpowder>	if we crashed to 15 tonight
Feb 21 22:21:17 <kakobrekla>	well i admit it would be funny if we crashed hard now
Feb 21 22:21:18 <Bugpowder>	and my puts made money
Feb 21 22:21:26 <Bugpowder>	plz
Feb 21 22:21:35 <Bowjob>	no~
Feb 21 22:21:38 <Bugpowder>	somehow i doubt it
Feb 21 22:21:49 <Bowjob>	we are going to the moon
Feb 21 22:22:08 <Bugpowder>	so when do you start buying again/
Feb 21 22:22:10 <Bugpowder>	25
Feb 21 22:22:12 <DeadWeasel>	someone big is still manipulating, possibly others too
Feb 21 22:22:14 <Bugpowder>	20? 15?
Feb 21 22:22:22 <Bugpowder>	manipulating?
Feb 21 22:22:27 <Bugpowder>	do you mean trying to sell shares?
Feb 21 22:22:31 <Bugpowder>	err coins?
Feb 21 22:22:53 <Bowjob>	buying single digits!!
Feb 21 22:23:05 <DeadWeasel>	i mean manipulating.  pump dump. then settle the price for a while, pump dump, settle the price. using bots, and everything else illegal in SEC markets
Feb 21 22:23:16 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 21 22:23:17 <usagi>	a dead bear.. it all makes sense now.
Feb 21 22:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	ugh.
Feb 21 22:23:21 <Bugpowder>	none of that is illegal
Feb 21 22:23:24 <mircea_popescu>	you know, that makes absolutely no sense.
Feb 21 22:23:39 <Bugpowder>	2) markets do not need that to display their dynamics
Feb 21 22:23:40 <DeadWeasel>	mircea_popescu: it makes perfect sense.
Feb 21 22:23:44 <Bowjob>	Yes a dead bear!
Feb 21 22:23:45 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu nothign here does anymore :(
Feb 21 22:24:09 <DeadWeasel>	kakobrekla: ever more correct you are
Feb 21 22:24:15 <DeadWeasel>	i just have theories
Feb 21 22:24:19 <DeadWeasel>	just like the rest of you
Feb 21 22:24:31 <DeadWeasel>	twats
Feb 21 22:24:36 *	DeadWeasel is a twat
Feb 21 22:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	DeadWeasel listen. the theory whereby it is feasible to buy up a commodity in order to sell it later is nonsense.
Feb 21 22:24:47 <kakobrekla>	spam detected, manually.
Feb 21 22:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	you will spend more "fixing" the price than you'll make selling.
Feb 21 22:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	people keep trying. people always fail.
Feb 21 22:25:13 <DeadWeasel>	proof?
Feb 21 22:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	most recently the notable silver market cornering, read up on that. it wasted a billion dollar fortune
Feb 21 22:25:19 <DeadWeasel>	your opinion?
Feb 21 22:25:20 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Feb 21 22:25:28 <DeadWeasel>	just saying
Feb 21 22:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;google "the hunt brothers"
Feb 21 22:25:53 <gribble>	Nelson Bunker Hunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Bunker_Hunt>; Silver Thursday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday>; Educate Yourself - The Hunt Brothers and the Silver Bubble: <http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/history/2000/hunt_bros.html>
Feb 21 22:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	seriously, this is basic stuff.
Feb 21 22:26:02 <Bugpowder>	OP delivers
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Feb 21 22:26:41 <DeadWeasel>	again, I just have opinions, and I've stated before, they are largely uneducated
Feb 21 22:26:47 <mircea_popescu>	"only new thing in this world is the history you didn't know".
Feb 21 22:26:49 <DeadWeasel>	so quit yer bitchin
Feb 21 22:27:31 <DeadWeasel>	got a problem with an uneducated twat, it's your problem.  I'd love to be educated,but ya'll don't know shit more about this than anyone else.
Feb 21 22:27:48 <DeadWeasel>	guessing at this market is bullshit
Feb 21 22:28:00 <mircea_popescu>	so read up on the stuff!
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Feb 21 22:28:33 <DeadWeasel>	the stuff. how could forget.  who's stuff'
Feb 21 22:28:36 <DeadWeasel>	your stuff?
Feb 21 22:28:39 <DeadWeasel>	usagi's stuff?
Feb 21 22:28:43 <DeadWeasel>	pirates stuff?
Feb 21 22:28:50 <DeadWeasel>	jesus' stuff?
Feb 21 22:29:05 <usagi>	[12:25] <mircea_popescu> most recently the notable silver market cornering, read up on that. it wasted a billion dollar fortune
Feb 21 22:29:07 <Bugpowder>	I would start with MPs
Feb 21 22:29:12 <Bugpowder>	and then just stop
Feb 21 22:29:23 <usagi>	No one understands silver here except me
Feb 21 22:29:26 <Bugpowder>	LOL
Feb 21 22:29:27 <Bugpowder>	YES
Feb 21 22:29:29 <DeadWeasel>	MPs stuff is shite
Feb 21 22:29:36 <DeadWeasel>	no offense,but you write crap
Feb 21 22:29:36 <Bugpowder>	ok read wikipedia
Feb 21 22:29:49 <DeadWeasel>	wiki, i can work with that, but none of it applies to BTC
Feb 21 22:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	dude, srsly. the hunt brothers and their silvery misadventure.
Feb 21 22:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck none of it applies to btc. what is btc, a meteorite ?
Feb 21 22:30:22 <kakobrekla>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite
Feb 21 22:30:43 <DeadWeasel>	thanks kakobrekla
Feb 21 22:30:44 <usagi>	By the way. The hunt brothers are back
Feb 21 22:30:51 <usagi>	and they're buying silver, but very quietly
Feb 21 22:30:52 <Bugpowder>	meteorits fall to earth
Feb 21 22:31:04 <DeadWeasel>	meteors do not
Feb 21 22:31:05 <usagi>	They're behind some very interesting developments in the precious metals market or so I hear
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Feb 21 22:31:14 <DeadWeasel>	you should know, it's your business
Feb 21 22:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	well anyway, this entire "someone is mainipulating by buying to inflate the price to sell later" stuff is the economic equivalent of the perpetuum mobile machine.
Feb 21 22:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	you can't pull yourself up by your britches.
Feb 21 22:32:54 <usagi>	Why do I always get mentioned alongside pirate and jesus?
Feb 21 22:33:10 <DeadWeasel>	no, but you can manipulate, or the SEC wouldn't exist for legit markets
Feb 21 22:33:22 <DeadWeasel>	haha, usagi, you were there
Feb 21 22:33:27 <DeadWeasel>	when jesus was born
Feb 21 22:33:30 <Bugpowder>	what do you think HFT does all day long?
Feb 21 22:33:37 <DeadWeasel>	you took his gold, silver, and myrhh
Feb 21 22:33:40 <usagi>	Your not supposed to say that out loud.
Feb 21 22:33:53 <DeadWeasel>	i know, now i have to sacrifice my child.
Feb 21 22:33:58 <usagi>	People will start getting suspicious as to why I haven't aged.
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Feb 21 22:34:18 <mircea_popescu>	yes well, the sec isn't there to do what you think it does i'm affraid.
Feb 21 22:34:59 <DeadWeasel>	it used to be.
Feb 21 22:35:03 <DeadWeasel>	not anyomore.
Feb 21 22:35:11 <DeadWeasel>	but the priciple applies
Feb 21 22:35:27 <DeadWeasel>	all the institutions have be co=opted by twats
Feb 21 22:35:44 <DeadWeasel>	that's why i like the blockchain
Feb 21 22:35:55 <DeadWeasel>	ain't no co-opting of that
Feb 21 22:35:55 <Bugpowder>	http://images.uncyc.org/en/3/3e/LeeWall_Destroy.gif
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Feb 21 22:36:26 <mircea_popescu>	ok, ok, but natural laws still apply.
Feb 21 22:36:59 <usagi>	How is it that twats have managed to get all the money and power on wall street and in washington?
Feb 21 22:37:01 <DeadWeasel>	can't argue with that
Feb 21 22:37:25 <usagi>	Why is it that intelligent, hip, "with-it" young bitcoiners like you and me can't take over and make the world a better place?
Feb 21 22:37:35 <DeadWeasel>	because we don't want to
Feb 21 22:37:59 <DeadWeasel>	the world, as it is, in terms of society and politics and industry is dying
Feb 21 22:38:20 <DeadWeasel>	renewal comes soon, unless free energy intervenes.
Feb 21 22:38:21 <usagi>	Your not supposed to say that out loud either :/
Feb 21 22:38:31 <BitHub>	my penis is dying over this conversation
Feb 21 22:38:38 <Bugpowder>	time to tip clark moody
Feb 21 22:38:53 <DeadWeasel>	then I'm going to bed.  gotta put up a few more buys for when it crashes.
Feb 21 22:38:56 <Bugpowder>	seriously
Feb 21 22:39:04 <Bugpowder>	what tha fuck would we do without that site
Feb 21 22:39:49 <Bowjob>	its Pump and dont dump
Feb 21 22:48:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60 @ 0.00063705 = 0.0382 BTC [-]
Feb 21 22:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4085 @ 0.00063402 = 2.59 BTC [-]
Feb 21 22:48:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063293 = 2.7349 BTC [-]
Feb 21 22:48:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00063292 = 8.1014 BTC [-]
Feb 21 22:48:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9784 @ 0.00063154 = 6.179 BTC [-]
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Feb 21 23:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063187 = 2.7303 BTC [+]
Feb 21 23:01:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7279 @ 0.00063154 = 4.597 BTC [-]
Feb 21 23:12:14 <truffles>	 <usagi> Why is it that intelligent, hip, "with-it" young bitcoiners like you and me can't take over and make the world a better place? >>>>> u become just like them anyways so why bother
Feb 21 23:14:17 <usagi>	truffles; Why do you become just like them?
Feb 21 23:14:29 <truffles>	power corrupts
Feb 21 23:15:38 <usagi>	But you need to have someone in power if you want to have a cohesive society with social centers like hospitals, libraries, and so forth.
Feb 21 23:15:46 <usagi>	someone/a group of people
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Feb 21 23:16:52 <novusordo>	nah
Feb 21 23:16:52 <truffles>	dont know the answer to that but it seems like very few altruistic ppl exist
Feb 21 23:17:09 <novusordo>	we'll build a distributed decentralized society
Feb 21 23:17:17 <novusordo>	where we mine for our libraries and hospitals
Feb 21 23:17:38 <usagi>	I agree novus. So, how will you institute that without having someone in power to make the transition from our modern, power-broker society?
Feb 21 23:17:41 <novusordo>	early adopters get more knowledge and better medical treatment
Feb 21 23:17:59 <truffles>	lol
Feb 21 23:18:03 <truffles>	early adopters?
Feb 21 23:18:09 <novusordo>	yes, of society
Feb 21 23:18:19 <truffles>	like the caveman
Feb 21 23:18:23 <Namworld>	It's more of a problem that being altruistic tends to get you 10 leeches stuck on you...
Feb 21 23:18:57 <truffles>	i know
Feb 21 23:19:37 <Namworld>	If there's no group in power to make rules/exclude, for one person building stuff for the community, 10 will smooch off of that work without contributing.
Feb 21 23:20:06 <truffles>	find ppl who dont care if 10 smoochers come
Feb 21 23:20:25 <Namworld>	Like people who just love working...
Feb 21 23:20:33 <Namworld>	workaholics
Feb 21 23:20:39 <truffles>	inventing or creating
Feb 21 23:20:52 <Bugpowder>	the goal is to become a power broker
Feb 21 23:21:04 <Bugpowder>	looking forward to being one!
Feb 21 23:21:12 <usagi>	But why would you want to become a power broker?
Feb 21 23:21:22 <Bowjob>	Actually I think we are the early adopters
Feb 21 23:21:24 <truffles>	the stresss...
Feb 21 23:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064104 = 2.7699 BTC [+]
Feb 21 23:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10674 @ 0.00064113 = 6.8434 BTC [+]
Feb 21 23:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5525 @ 0.00064222 = 3.5483 BTC [+]
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Feb 21 23:27:07 <Bowjob>	anyone here watched Code Geass?
Feb 21 23:27:12 <Bowjob>	I just realized something
Feb 21 23:27:56 <Diablo-D3>	meh
Feb 21 23:27:59 <Diablo-D3>	I was going to
Feb 21 23:28:02 <Diablo-D3>	then I realized how retarded it was
Feb 21 23:28:11 <truffles>	haha
Feb 21 23:28:13 <Diablo-D3>	and Im the guy that likes giant robots
Feb 21 23:28:23 <truffles>	i dislike mecha
Feb 21 23:28:29 <Bowjob>	 C.C. Loved pizza
Feb 21 23:28:38 <Bowjob>	and C.C. was helping lelouch with his rebellion
Feb 21 23:28:45 <Bowjob>	Bitcoins, are designed as a fuck you to the feds, in short a rebellion to the feds
Feb 21 23:28:54 <Bowjob>	and bitcoiners love pizza
Feb 21 23:29:02 <Bowjob>	so much that hey paid 10,000 BTC for 2 pizzas
Feb 21 23:29:11 <Bowjob>	Bitcoin = Code Geass rebellion!!
Feb 21 23:29:15 <truffles>	i dont see bitcoiners winnning though
Feb 21 23:29:19 <Bowjob>	Satoshi = zero!!
Feb 21 23:29:25 <Bowjob>	http://satoshidice.com/
Feb 21 23:29:28 <truffles>	at least they need to get it together if they want to
Feb 21 23:29:28 <Bowjob>	the chick is CC
Feb 21 23:29:31 <Bowjob>	with her green hair
Feb 21 23:29:37 <usagi>	Anime is a subtle form of propaganda
Feb 21 23:29:39 <Bowjob>	it all makes sense now
Feb 21 23:29:57 <Bowjob>	In the end we see Satoshi sacking himself for the good of everyone
Feb 21 23:30:07 <Bowjob>	but not after crazy shit happens
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Feb 21 23:31:01 <truffles>	well im seeing power dynamics similar to what bitcoiners claim to be working against within the system
Feb 21 23:31:10 <truffles>	so it puzzles me why even bother
Feb 21 23:31:55 <Bowjob>	ASICs are like the new mainframes
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Feb 21 23:32:26 <truffles>	plenty of bright minds in this "community" to figure these things out
Feb 21 23:32:29 <Bowjob>	Oh, and it just happened that http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Avalon
Feb 21 23:32:37 <Bowjob>	!!!
Feb 21 23:32:39 <Bowjob>	Fuck I knew it
Feb 21 23:32:44 <Bowjob>	this thing is a whole setup
Feb 21 23:32:56 <usagi>	a Britannian  airship?
Feb 21 23:33:00 <Bowjob>	Yes!
Feb 21 23:33:01 <usagi>	a Bitcoinian airship?
Feb 21 23:33:02 <Bowjob>	Avalon is
Feb 21 23:33:19 <BitHub>	is that what i preordered?
Feb 21 23:33:20 <Bowjob>	All hail zero!!
Feb 21 23:33:22 <Bowjob>	Yes!
Feb 21 23:33:23 <usagi>	 In the second season, it is adopted as a flagship under the command of Suzaku Nakamoto.
Feb 21 23:33:24 <BitHub>	scammers
Feb 21 23:33:27 <usagi>	OH MY GOD
Feb 21 23:33:30 <usagi>	IT FITS
Feb 21 23:33:34 <Bowjob>	IT does !!
Feb 21 23:33:35 <Bowjob>	Right??
Feb 21 23:33:36 <Bowjob>	Desho?
Feb 21 23:34:20 <usagi>	omg! And Notably, it also holds a specialized wheelchair catapult for launching Knightmares by accelerating their Landspinners, as well as research, testing and production facilities for Camelot scientists to utilize.
Feb 21 23:34:22 <Bowjob>	BFL are those eunuchs.. who didnt deliver shit
Feb 21 23:34:29 <usagi>	I can't believe how much it is JUST like avalon asics.
Feb 21 23:34:35 <Bowjob>	wait thats bASIC
Feb 21 23:34:59 <usagi>	And when When Lelouch became Emperor of the Holy Britannian Empire, he had an Avalon that had seven Electomagnetic Rail Cannons attached to it.
Feb 21 23:35:04 <Bowjob>	We need an ASIC company named Freja.. that'd be awesome
Feb 21 23:36:13 <usagi>	Seriously tho, they do this on purpose. For example, in dragonball z, everyone is named after a vegetable
Feb 21 23:36:21 <truffles>	ive wanted to watch neon genesis evangelion..
Feb 21 23:36:23 <usagi>	and in naruto everyone is named after a food or an animal too.
Feb 21 23:36:50 <Bowjob>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bernanke
Feb 21 23:37:02 <truffles>	usagi what does that mean?
Feb 21 23:37:08 <Bowjob>	that's charles
Feb 21 23:37:16 <Bowjob>	one of his children is satoshi
Feb 21 23:37:20 <usagi>	truffles; Naruto means fish cake slice, like the put in ramen soup
Feb 21 23:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 21 23:37:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.04001, Best ask: 30.16900, Bid-ask spread: 0.12899, Last trade: 30.04001, 24 hour volume: 51240.83998307, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.82270
Feb 21 23:37:27 *	truffles is up to date on naruto
Feb 21 23:37:51 <truffles>	bowjob lol if true
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Feb 21 23:38:18 <Bowjob>	Omg.. and another thing
Feb 21 23:38:24 <Bowjob>	one of the FGPAs of Avalon
Feb 21 23:38:28 <Bowjob>	is called Lancelot
Feb 21 23:38:33 <Bowjob>	O_O
Feb 21 23:38:41 <usagi>	Yeah, because it has somethign to do with Camelot
Feb 21 23:38:47 <Bowjob>	Yifu = Suzaku???
Feb 21 23:38:54 <usagi>	Dude they're pulling from the same arthurian myths
Feb 21 23:39:02 <usagi>	That's why there are similarities hehe
Feb 21 23:39:47 <usagi>	Kind of like how both sailormoon and pretty cure both copied magical angel creamy mami, and not each other
Feb 21 23:39:49 <truffles>	so theyre not original ok
Feb 21 23:39:53 <Bowjob>	I bet someone with Geass here keep telling people to buy buy buy
Feb 21 23:40:04 <truffles>	lol at u2
Feb 21 23:40:21 <truffles>	usagi do u read naruto manga?
Feb 21 23:40:25 <usagi>	Sometimes
Feb 21 23:40:28 <usagi>	I prefer the anime.
Feb 21 23:40:32 <truffles>	me2
Feb 21 23:40:36 <truffles>	cant keep up
Feb 21 23:40:39 <Bowjob>	It sucks that I can't really watch anime
Feb 21 23:40:41 <Bowjob>	coz of bitcoin
Feb 21 23:40:41 <Bowjob>	fuck
Feb 21 23:40:47 <Bowjob>	my priorites are backward
Feb 21 23:40:48 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 21 23:40:56 <truffles>	heh
Feb 21 23:40:58 <usagi>	I prefer older anime as well
Feb 21 23:41:10 <truffles>	i havent seen any newer anime that just blows me away
Feb 21 23:41:12 <Bowjob>	usagi, watched hxh?
Feb 21 23:41:24 <usagi>	I will feel very upset if my kids do not get an education watching astroboy, transformers g1, power rangers, etc.
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Feb 21 23:41:39 <truffles>	power rangers..
Feb 21 23:41:40 <truffles>	no
Feb 21 23:41:58 <usagi>	bubblegum crisis, appleseed oav, akira, kiyuuketsuki miyu
Feb 21 23:42:15 <truffles>	bubblegum crisis right here
Feb 21 23:42:17 <truffles>	im almost out
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Feb 21 23:42:28 <Bowjob>	mp left lol
Feb 21 23:42:38 <usagi>	Black Magic Mario-66
Feb 21 23:42:56 <truffles>	im gonna be sad when naruto ends
Feb 21 23:43:02 <Bowjob>	well, theres steins gate, clannad as, madoka
Feb 21 23:43:08 <Bowjob>	for the newer animes that are so good
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Feb 21 23:43:13 <usagi>	Kimagure Orange Road
Feb 21 23:43:18 <usagi>	Ranma 1/2
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Feb 21 23:43:24 <Bowjob>	clannad in particular made me cry.. then again it made everyone cry
Feb 21 23:43:29 <truffles>	dislike all sports managa
Feb 21 23:43:36 <truffles>	or anime
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Feb 21 23:44:47 <truffles>	is that boobs or lower bits
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Feb 21 23:45:18 <usagi>	it says kita
Feb 21 23:47:59 <truffles>	seen Gantz?
Feb 21 23:48:20 <truffles>	i dunno how i didnt finish that series
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Feb 21 23:55:38 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 21 23:55:41 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222467 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1308 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 15 hours, 34 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4303879.3834 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.88183
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Feb 22 00:06:59 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 00:06:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.97378, Best ask: 29.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00622, Last trade: 29.91680, 24 hour volume: 51888.39711345, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.82742
Feb 22 00:07:02 <Bowjob>	OH shit
Feb 22 00:07:06 <Bowjob>	We are crashing
Feb 22 00:08:39 <Diablo-D3>	yes we are
Feb 22 00:08:44 <Diablo-D3>	time to help the crash
Feb 22 00:09:02 <Bowjob>	buy more!
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Feb 22 00:09:20 <mjr_>	;;ticker
Feb 22 00:09:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.01000, Best ask: 30.02412, Bid-ask spread: 0.01412, Last trade: 30.02412, 24 hour volume: 52448.64750968, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.82956
Feb 22 00:09:29 <Bowjob>	Nvm false alarm
Feb 22 00:09:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064202 = 2.7742 BTC [-]
Feb 22 00:09:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16125 @ 0.00064222 = 10.3558 BTC [+]
Feb 22 00:09:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33654 @ 0.0006423 = 21.616 BTC [+]
Feb 22 00:09:48 <Bowjob>	See yah at 31 tomorrow
Feb 22 00:09:57 <Namworld>	eh
Feb 22 00:10:07 <Diablo-D3>	I guess I wont sell yet then
Feb 22 00:13:21 <Bowjob>	Selling bitcoins for 1.1 BTC each
Feb 22 00:13:27 <Bowjob>	might as well be transparent about it
Feb 22 00:15:07 <ThickAsThieves>	was reading this: http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/02/21/after-employees-opt-to-be-paid-in-bitcoin-the-internet-archive-asks-for-donations-in-the-digital-currency/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=social+media&awesm=tnw.to_i0c4U&utm_medium=Spreadus
Feb 22 00:15:18 <ThickAsThieves>	and saw evoorhees commented
Feb 22 00:15:20 <ThickAsThieves>	heh
Feb 22 00:15:22 <Diablo-D3>	okay so
Feb 22 00:15:32 <Diablo-D3>	everyone get ready to buy
Feb 22 00:15:36 <Diablo-D3>	because Im going to sell my coins
Feb 22 00:15:42 <Diablo-D3>	and we'll be $60 by the end of the month
Feb 22 00:15:52 <Namworld>	eheh...
Feb 22 00:16:04 <Namworld>	luckily two month after it will be $15
Feb 22 00:16:18 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Feb 22 00:16:20 <Namworld>	double followed by half
Feb 22 00:16:35 <Bowjob>	fuck that. 1 coins or go home
Feb 22 00:16:36 <Diablo-D3>	actually
Feb 22 00:16:39 <Bowjob>	1 cent
Feb 22 00:16:40 <Diablo-D3>	$30 plunged to $5
Feb 22 00:16:53 <Diablo-D3>	so double followed by 1/6th
Feb 22 00:17:26 <Diablo-D3>	I need the money anyhow
Feb 22 00:17:29 <Namworld>	oh, $10
Feb 22 00:17:36 <Diablo-D3>	so I can buy expensive things I deserve
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Feb 22 00:17:47 <Namworld>	like a cat?
Feb 22 00:18:22 <Namworld>	They cost and don't serve much purpose other than relieve stress.
Feb 22 00:18:40 <Diablo-D3>	I have 3 of those.
Feb 22 00:20:03 <Diablo-D3>	yesterday I bought $155 in canned food.
Feb 22 00:20:05 <Diablo-D3>	that will last 5 months.
Feb 22 00:20:07 <Bowjob>	3 pussies
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Feb 22 00:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5264 @ 0.00063154 = 3.3244 BTC [-]
Feb 22 00:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00063129 = 1.4835 BTC [-]
Feb 22 00:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063038 = 2.7239 BTC [-]
Feb 22 00:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 765 @ 0.00063037 = 0.4822 BTC [-]
Feb 22 00:21:12 <Diablo-D3>	and thats just canned soft food
Feb 22 00:21:31 <ThickAsThieves>	CampBX has like 165BTC in asks under $50
Feb 22 00:21:48 <Diablo-D3>	yeah but thats campbx
Feb 22 00:22:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm surprised more people don't use them
Feb 22 00:23:09 <Diablo-D3>	what do they offer for getting USD out?
Feb 22 00:24:00 <ThickAsThieves>	dwolla, ach, MOney Order, Wire, Int Wire
Feb 22 00:24:38 <Diablo-D3>	they havent gotten bitchslapped by dwolla yet?
Feb 22 00:24:45 <ThickAsThieves>	nope
Feb 22 00:25:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i think dwolla's thing is you have to be careful sending money in more than one direction
Feb 22 00:25:23 <Diablo-D3>	doesnt really matter I guess, all I want to do is sell mine
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Feb 22 00:29:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006421 = 2.7745 BTC [+]
Feb 22 00:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4279 @ 0.0006423 = 2.7484 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 01:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063038 = 2.7239 BTC [-]
Feb 22 01:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9235 @ 0.00063037 = 5.8215 BTC [-]
Feb 22 01:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133 @ 0.00063036 = 0.0838 BTC [-]
Feb 22 01:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 637 @ 0.00063036 = 0.4015 BTC [-]
Feb 22 01:15:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00065 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 01:31:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 01:31:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.99000, Best ask: 30.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 30.00000, 24 hour volume: 52693.52618002, 24 hour low: 29.31200, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.89423
Feb 22 01:31:16 <Bowjob>	Dropped
Feb 22 01:38:41 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 01:38:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.87000, Best ask: 30.06399, Bid-ask spread: 0.19399, Last trade: 30.06399, 24 hour volume: 52795.58367426, 24 hour low: 29.31200, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.89439
Feb 22 01:40:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00063044 = 0.4854 BTC [+]
Feb 22 01:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063044 = 3.1522 BTC [+]
Feb 22 01:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063043 = 2.7241 BTC [-]
Feb 22 01:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9609 @ 0.00063037 = 6.0572 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 01:45:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00064197 = 0.4943 BTC [+]
Feb 22 01:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064197 = 3.2099 BTC [+]
Feb 22 01:45:33 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Feb 22 01:45:33 <assbot>	Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
Feb 22 01:45:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064198 = 2.774 BTC [+]
Feb 22 01:45:37 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 22 01:45:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.86196, Best ask: 30.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.13804, Last trade: 29.85000, 24 hour volume: 52517.64142266, 24 hour low: 29.40000, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.89911
Feb 22 01:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7109 @ 0.00064229 = 4.566 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 01:50:53 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 01:50:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.91000, Best ask: 29.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 29.86195, 24 hour volume: 52454.99252579, 24 hour low: 29.40000, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.89963
Feb 22 01:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064214 = 3.2107 BTC [-]
Feb 22 01:53:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00064215 = 2.4402 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 02:02:18 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145885.0
Feb 22 02:02:23 <Bowjob>	BFL shipped!
Feb 22 02:02:34 <Bowjob>	Wait.. I mean Avalon
Feb 22 02:02:36 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 22 02:04:07 <Namworld_AFK>	neat
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Feb 22 02:15:43 <Bowjob>	MHm,. hold dice or sell dice
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Feb 22 02:18:30 <Namworld_AFK>	Sell to me....
Feb 22 02:25:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3771 @ 0.00063203 = 2.3834 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 02:29:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00063071 = 0.4856 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 02:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0006307 = 3.1535 BTC [-]
Feb 22 02:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 617 @ 0.00063038 = 0.3889 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 02:34:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 02:49:25 <Bowjob>	Mines tied at H.lock
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Feb 22 02:54:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.005 BTC [+]
Feb 22 02:54:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.69 = 8.28 BTC [+]
Feb 22 02:56:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00065 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
Feb 22 02:59:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 72 @ 0.00595 = 0.4284 BTC [-]
Feb 22 03:01:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.69 = 6.9 BTC [+]
Feb 22 03:09:32 <Namworld_AFK>	S.BBET at 0.005 O.o
Feb 22 03:10:37 <Bowjob>	So.. umm how does bitbet make money?
Feb 22 03:10:49 <Bowjob>	I see 1% to the house, and.. some from ads
Feb 22 03:11:08 <Bowjob>	.. seems awfully low to get a return on.. unless im missing something
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Feb 22 03:16:01 <Namworld_AFK>	0.00500000....
Feb 22 03:16:19 <Namworld_AFK>	I think 0.00005000 would be more than fair...
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Feb 22 03:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.0019649 = 0.1965 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 03:47:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 31 @ 0.00595 = 0.1845 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 03:48:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00591 = 0.0591 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 03:50:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 259 @ 0.0059 = 1.5281 BTC [-]
Feb 22 04:02:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 26100 @ 0.00062 = 16.182 BTC [-]
Feb 22 04:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3704 @ 0.00063123 = 2.3381 BTC [+]
Feb 22 04:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17346 @ 0.00063118 = 10.9484 BTC [-]
Feb 22 04:13:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.00063203 = 0.3476 BTC [+]
Feb 22 04:13:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00063231 = 17.1356 BTC [+]
Feb 22 04:13:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00063478 = 4.1895 BTC [+]
Feb 22 04:25:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063478 = 1.587 BTC [+]
Feb 22 04:25:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 521 @ 0.00064094 = 0.3339 BTC [+]
Feb 22 04:25:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6067 @ 0.00064095 = 3.8886 BTC [+]
Feb 22 04:25:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00064221 = 0.4945 BTC [+]
Feb 22 04:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2891 @ 0.00064229 = 1.8569 BTC [+]
Feb 22 04:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9301 @ 0.00064229 = 5.9739 BTC [+]
Feb 22 04:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9301 @ 0.00064229 = 5.9739 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 04:36:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063142 = 2.7284 BTC [-]
Feb 22 04:36:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20279 @ 0.00063118 = 12.7997 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 04:53:04 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 04:53:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.32000, Best ask: 30.32009, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 30.32000, 24 hour volume: 53549.19946882, 24 hour low: 29.40000, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.92187
Feb 22 04:58:58 <Bowjob>	;ticker
Feb 22 04:59:04 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 04:59:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.32010, Best ask: 30.34998, Bid-ask spread: 0.02988, Last trade: 30.34998, 24 hour volume: 53406.13555258, 24 hour low: 29.40000, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.92276
Feb 22 05:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063132 = 2.7279 BTC [+]
Feb 22 05:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13879 @ 0.00063118 = 8.7601 BTC [-]
Feb 22 05:02:21 <xavier23>	;;ticker
Feb 22 05:02:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.35002, Best ask: 30.42000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 30.35002, 24 hour volume: 53559.60136470, 24 hour low: 29.40000, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.92418
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Feb 22 05:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9696 @ 0.00063118 = 6.1199 BTC [-]
Feb 22 05:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063039 = 3.152 BTC [-]
Feb 22 05:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 391 @ 0.00063037 = 0.2465 BTC [-]
Feb 22 05:06:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063037 = 6.3037 BTC [-]
Feb 22 05:06:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3913 @ 0.00063036 = 2.4666 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 05:08:53 <Bowjob>	Nam
Feb 22 05:08:54 <Bowjob>	http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/quebec-language-police-duck-fight-against-italian-restaurant-150948560.html
Feb 22 05:08:55 <Bowjob>	Lol
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Feb 22 05:17:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00609 = 0.0365 BTC [+]
Feb 22 05:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00063438 = 1.8397 BTC [+]
Feb 22 05:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11317 @ 0.00063036 = 7.1338 BTC [-]
Feb 22 05:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4783 @ 0.00063035 = 3.015 BTC [-]
Feb 22 05:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064223 = 3.2112 BTC [+]
Feb 22 05:33:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064224 = 2.7751 BTC [+]
Feb 22 05:33:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 699 @ 0.00064229 = 0.449 BTC [+]
Feb 22 05:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064229 = 6.4229 BTC [+]
Feb 22 05:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11267 @ 0.0006423 = 7.2368 BTC [+]
Feb 22 05:33:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 713 @ 0.00064252 = 0.4581 BTC [+]
Feb 22 05:37:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Feb 22 05:47:40 <truffles>	language police ftw
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Feb 22 05:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0006306 = 3.153 BTC [-]
Feb 22 05:52:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00063059 = 0.8198 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 06:06:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3021 @ 0.00063059 = 1.905 BTC [-]
Feb 22 06:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7201 @ 0.00063037 = 4.5393 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 06:16:24 <mjr__>	hi all
Feb 22 06:18:02 <DeadWeasel>	hi mjr__
Feb 22 06:18:13 <mjr__>	whats new
Feb 22 06:18:24 <mjr__>	how's asicminer?
Feb 22 06:21:49 <DeadWeasel>	dunno. dpm
Feb 22 06:21:53 <DeadWeasel>	don't own any
Feb 22 06:22:09 <DeadWeasel>	i see alot of pumping going on in btc right now though.
Feb 22 06:24:40 <Bowjob>	its called pump and dont dump
Feb 22 06:26:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1996 @ 0.01 = 19.96 BTC [+]
Feb 22 06:29:24 <Bowjob>	look at that 600k Wall
Feb 22 06:29:34 <Bowjob>	600k Dice wall
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Feb 22 06:37:49 <DeadWeasel>	apparently, Bowjob -- you've been right every time you said that so far
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Feb 22 07:00:00 <DeadWeasel>	anybody use yubikeys?
Feb 22 07:01:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064242 = 2.7759 BTC [+]
Feb 22 07:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064251 = 10.2802 BTC [+]
Feb 22 07:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4929 @ 0.00064252 = 3.167 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 07:14:20 <truffles>	nope, use the ole noggin
Feb 22 07:14:40 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 22 07:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC)
Feb 22 07:14:51 <thestringpuller>	why the fuck is no one buying IDIFF?
Feb 22 07:15:05 <truffles>	wtf is IDIFF!
Feb 22 07:16:47 <truffles>	google didnt help
Feb 22 07:17:26 <truffles>	ok nm
Feb 22 07:17:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064161 = 2.7724 BTC [-]
Feb 22 07:17:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12579 @ 0.00064196 = 8.0752 BTC [+]
Feb 22 07:18:06 <BitHub>	whats your favasset exchange?
Feb 22 07:18:43 <truffles>	"There used to be futures for a multitude of commodities (cattle, metals, indexes, etc) but these were discontinued for lack of trade volume." hmmm
Feb 22 07:26:57 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller that's a mystery for the ages.
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Feb 22 07:29:03 <truffles>	;; calc 30*29.5
Feb 22 07:29:03 <gribble>	885
Feb 22 07:29:24 <truffles>	might as well buy asics..
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Feb 22 07:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063935 = 2.7626 BTC [-]
Feb 22 07:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063914 = 10.2262 BTC [-]
Feb 22 07:39:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6251 @ 0.00063913 = 3.9952 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 08:11:21 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 22 08:11:24 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222530 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1245 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 16 hours, 26 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
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Feb 22 08:27:40 <jurov>	ohh the other futures were discontinued? MUST FIX
Feb 22 08:29:10 <error4733>	+3000 BTC profit for the last 1000 bet (2days) 2500 above EV !
Feb 22 08:29:40 <error4733>	S.Dice run good  !
Feb 22 08:31:17 <DeadWeas1l>	http://uncrunched.com/2013/02/21/the-department-of-homeland-security-stole-my-boat-today/
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Feb 22 08:31:36 <truffles>	small potatoes
Feb 22 08:31:37 *	DeadWeas1l is now known as DeadWeasel
Feb 22 08:31:49 <DeadWeasel>	fingerling potatoes?
Feb 22 08:32:06 <truffles>	hehe
Feb 22 08:32:17 <truffles>	just saying they can and do take more
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Feb 22 08:35:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1531 @ 0.00587398 = 8.9931 BTC [+]
Feb 22 08:36:01 <DeadWeasel>	yeah, he'll get it back, I just hope it gets out there in the media more.
Feb 22 08:36:06 <DeadWeasel>	so people are more wary.
Feb 22 08:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00598363 = 2.9918 BTC [+]
Feb 22 08:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0060899 = 1.827 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 08:50:06 <truffles>	i like the writing style
Feb 22 08:50:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 22 08:50:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Feb 22 08:51:08 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222536 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1239 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 13 hours, 19 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
Feb 22 08:51:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.0873 = 0.1746 BTC [-]
Feb 22 08:52:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Feb 22 08:53:58 <truffles>	"I’ll probably get droned now, too." giggles
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Feb 22 09:07:42 <mjr__>	;;ticker
Feb 22 09:07:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.61955, Best ask: 30.76200, Bid-ask spread: 0.14245, Last trade: 30.76200, 24 hour volume: 55152.61716662, 24 hour low: 29.42000, 24 hour high: 30.76200, 24 hour vwap: 30.03966
Feb 22 09:12:31 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 22 09:12:32 <gribble>	30.06
Feb 22 09:13:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.008 = 0.016 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 09:32:04 <usagi>	silver is now entering major long-term support
Feb 22 09:33:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 31.99
Feb 22 09:33:20 <gribble>	There are currently 7044.8875 bitcoins offered at or under 31.99 USD, worth 221886.66444 USD in total.
Feb 22 09:34:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 22 09:34:15 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222545 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1230 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 12 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3191474.41456 | Estimated Percent Change: -12.58657
Feb 22 09:34:40 <ThickAsThieves>	why do the stats dip like that this time of day?
Feb 22 09:36:15 <Bugpowder>	weird
Feb 22 09:36:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00609 = 30.45 BTC [+]
Feb 22 09:36:33 <usagi>	thickasthieves; could be a daytrader
Feb 22 09:37:28 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 22 09:37:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.68010003 = 3.4005 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:37:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.6801 = 6.1209 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:37:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.68 = 6.8 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:37:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.68 = 2.04 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:37:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.675 = 3.375 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:37:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.674 = 1.348 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:37:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:37:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.665 = 3.99 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:37:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:37:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.637 = 2.548 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 22 09:37:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.77586, Best ask: 30.79999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02413, Last trade: 30.77586, 24 hour volume: 53263.39730356, 24 hour low: 29.42000, 24 hour high: 30.84000, 24 hour vwap: 30.07494
Feb 22 09:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	sweet.
Feb 22 09:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00609 = 30.45 BTC [+]
Feb 22 09:39:18 <Bugpowder>	large ask on S.DICE up
Feb 22 09:39:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 31 @ 0.637 = 19.747 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:39:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.62151 = 11.8087 BTC [-]
Feb 22 09:39:42 <topace>	DING DING DING -- Havelock now has 1,000,000 shares
Feb 22 09:39:55 <Bugpowder>	Thats a lot of coins
Feb 22 09:40:14 <ThickAsThieves>	http://bitbet.us/bet/255/s-dice-profit-falls-in-february/
Feb 22 09:40:19 <topace>	Market Cap    ฿6215.1000 (~$188006.78)
Feb 22 09:40:20 <topace>	indeed
Feb 22 09:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	well done
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Feb 22 09:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	who knew running PTs can be that lucrative, there's what, like 4-5 btc on the spread right there ?
Feb 22 09:42:17 <pigeons>	plus th 5% dividend rake
Feb 22 09:43:05 <topace>	indeed
Feb 22 09:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	honest money at least.
Feb 22 09:46:06 <usagi>	When will the MPOE monthly results for February 2013 be released?
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Feb 22 09:51:01 <error4733>	@thickAsThieves : in BTC or $ ?
Feb 22 09:51:44 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Feb 22 09:51:51 <error4733>	if you look in $, pretty same result, no free fall.  395K to 360k still one week
Feb 22 09:52:04 <error4733>	s.dice profit
Feb 22 09:52:17 <ThickAsThieves>	s.dice doesnt deal in USD
Feb 22 09:52:24 <error4733>	:/
Feb 22 09:53:03 <ThickAsThieves>	bet is in "bitcoin" category after all
Feb 22 09:53:11 <error4733>	yep easy bet if you not correct with the btc rise
Feb 22 09:53:41 <ThickAsThieves>	anything can happen in the next week though
Feb 22 09:53:50 <ThickAsThieves>	whale can spend 10k
Feb 22 09:55:12 <error4733>	at 30$ ? :/
Feb 22 09:55:17 <Bugpowder>	no he can't
Feb 22 09:55:26 <Bugpowder>	check the address balances.
Feb 22 09:55:41 <error4733>	he is dry ?
Feb 22 09:55:55 <Bugpowder>	Has had 3k left since Feb 4th
Feb 22 09:55:58 <error4733>	no way he blow up ALL his coin...
Feb 22 09:56:00 <Bugpowder>	out of 40k
Feb 22 09:56:08 <ThickAsThieves>	doesnt mean it's all he has
Feb 22 09:56:16 <Bugpowder>	there is a new address though
Feb 22 09:56:17 <ThickAsThieves>	and that there aren't other whales
Feb 22 09:56:17 <error4733>	yep it's the S.dice wallet :)
Feb 22 09:56:23 <Bugpowder>	that has about 3-4k too
Feb 22 09:56:33 <Bugpowder>	so that person could drive the profits
Feb 22 09:57:13 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Hz5FxwF5XYk1Emqf43Q2Vo5uUzqb7BhtM
Feb 22 09:57:17 <Bugpowder>	oops  he is out too
Feb 22 09:57:18 <ThickAsThieves>	only need about 720 or so BTC profit per day to break the bet
Feb 22 09:57:28 <Bugpowder>	did he lose it all yesterday??
Feb 22 09:57:48 <ThickAsThieves>	no profit yesterday i think
Feb 22 09:59:33 <ThickAsThieves>	but it's been nearly a day since doog's last report
Feb 22 10:00:25 <ThickAsThieves>	well, not nearly, but plenty of time for a whale to lose his btc
Feb 22 10:01:11 <error4733>	nothing big today
Feb 22 10:01:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.0021 = 0.021 BTC [-]
Feb 22 10:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	how's the small bets ?
Feb 22 10:02:13 <mircea_popescu>	prolly a better long term indicator i'd guess
Feb 22 10:02:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 90 @ 0.0021 = 0.189 BTC [-]
Feb 22 10:02:38 <error4733>	oups my bad, +2K since last dooglu update
Feb 22 10:03:22 <error4733>	i monitore only +4 bet
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Feb 22 10:06:47 <error4733>	Haha last 470 bet on s.dice : EV = 188  Result : 2134...  2K above EV. Please, a nice final week like in january
Feb 22 10:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006418 = 2.7732 BTC [+]
Feb 22 10:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10421 @ 0.00064196 = 6.6899 BTC [+]
Feb 22 10:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 258 @ 0.00064252 = 0.1658 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 10:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 you know one of these days its going to go well under ev.
Feb 22 10:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	it has to.
Feb 22 10:15:31 <Ukto>	BitFunder is now trading backed AUD/USD/CAD. https://bitfunder.com/asset/FIAT.USD for example.
Feb 22 10:15:33 <Ukto>	Have a nice day.,
Feb 22 10:15:35 <error4733>	not with small bet
Feb 22 10:16:23 <error4733>	you can't beat house edge on long term
Feb 22 10:17:30 <error4733>	obv with 3 whales & a bad run... it's possible
Feb 22 10:18:59 <mircea_popescu>	listen, you can't beat house edge on INFINITE term.
Feb 22 10:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	it's possible to beat it on a term of any arbitrary finite length
Feb 22 10:21:22 <error4733>	sure, but more small bet mean you reduce variance              i'm a math genius, i know
Feb 22 10:22:28 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Feb 22 10:26:51 <jurov>	hi Ukto, what's your plan with FIAT.USD? you will offer the shares yourself?
Feb 22 10:28:17 <Ukto>	I dont offer the shares
Feb 22 10:28:18 <Ukto>	you do
Feb 22 10:28:28 <Ukto>	or rather, any user
Feb 22 10:28:36 <Ukto>	any user can deposit their USD from weex into bitfunder
Feb 22 10:28:47 <Ukto>	which are auto converted to 1 share FIAT.USD per $1 USD
Feb 22 10:29:07 <jurov>	what's the advantage over buying bitcoins directly?
Feb 22 10:29:25 <Ukto>	this is buying fiats
Feb 22 10:29:28 <Ukto>	with bitcoins
Feb 22 10:29:35 <Ukto>	not buying bitcoins
Feb 22 10:29:37 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 22 10:29:48 <Ukto>	these basicaly make a reverse market
Feb 22 10:30:07 <Ukto>	withdrawing any number of shares of FIAT.USD (or other currencies) to WeExchange automatically converts X shares to X dollars of that currency
Feb 22 10:31:19 <mircea_popescu>	so basically like an exchange.
Feb 22 10:31:25 <Ukto>	yes, its a reverse exchange
Feb 22 10:31:29 <Ukto>	for those assets
Feb 22 10:31:40 <mjr__>	guys! only $969 to go :)
Feb 22 10:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	ok, so you're merging bitfunder and what was it called, uex ?
Feb 22 10:31:49 <Ukto>	weex
Feb 22 10:31:51 <Ukto>	and not merging
Feb 22 10:31:54 <mjr__>	lol jk
Feb 22 10:31:55 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 22 10:32:10 <Ukto>	BF is just taking more advantage of the merchant system offered by weex
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Feb 22 10:32:54 <jurov>	i mean, selling FIAT.USD is fully equivalent to buying bitcoins, no?
Feb 22 10:33:11 <Ukto>	sure. You can look at it from that point of view.
Feb 22 10:33:26 <Ukto>	You could also say buying FIAT.USD is selling bitcoins.
Feb 22 10:33:49 <Ukto>	But in fact, you are buying USD with btc.
Feb 22 10:33:55 <Ukto>	If you follow the terminology.
Feb 22 10:34:14 <Ukto>	:D
Feb 22 10:34:25 <Ukto>	Either way, someone asked for it, i said sure why not, and did it.
Feb 22 10:34:36 <ThickAsThieves>	so it's an exchange on exchange
Feb 22 10:34:45 <Ukto>	No... it's an exchange.
Feb 22 10:34:48 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Feb 22 10:34:50 <Ukto>	No one said it could only be 'assets'
Feb 22 10:35:01 <Ukto>	and the currencies ARE assets in this form
Feb 22 10:35:05 <ThickAsThieves>	will you also make it possible to buy shares of any stock with USD?
Feb 22 10:35:11 <Ukto>	they DO have a name.. its not liek they are done to the cent
Feb 22 10:35:17 <Ukto>	No
Feb 22 10:35:30 <Ukto>	You cannot buy shares of an asset, with shares from another asset
Feb 22 10:35:50 <ThickAsThieves>	why not just support USD within BF?
Feb 22 10:35:56 <ThickAsThieves>	directly
Feb 22 10:36:15 <Ukto>	Legal reasons.
Feb 22 10:36:19 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Feb 22 10:36:27 <Ukto>	also, BitFunder is not there to support USD, etc
Feb 22 10:36:31 <Ukto>	it is there to support BTC.
Feb 22 10:37:00 <BitHub>	word fiat scares me
Feb 22 10:37:28 <Ukto>	If asked "What do you do with mined bitcoins?" 'I can BUY USD with it.'
Feb 22 10:37:33 <Ukto>	That is an accurate statement.
Feb 22 10:37:48 <Ukto>	Rather than the previous limitation of 'I can SELL it for USD'
Feb 22 10:38:42 <ThickAsThieves>	seems like a thin court defense, but i know nothing of the laws
Feb 22 10:38:54 <Ukto>	defense for what?
Feb 22 10:39:00 <Ukto>	and what court?
Feb 22 10:39:06 <ThickAsThieves>	well you said not supporting USD for legal reasons
Feb 22 10:39:12 <ThickAsThieves>	but this isnt much different
Feb 22 10:39:12 <Ukto>	Correct.
Feb 22 10:39:22 <ThickAsThieves>	like i said, i'm no lawyer
Feb 22 10:39:27 <ThickAsThieves>	but it's effectively the same
Feb 22 10:39:33 <Ukto>	You misunderstand.
Feb 22 10:39:50 <Ukto>	BitFunder will not let you hold USD as an eWallet.
Feb 22 10:39:55 <Ukto>	to use/spend as you please
Feb 22 10:40:05 <Ukto>	you do not have USD in your account on BF
Feb 22 10:40:11 <ThickAsThieves>	but 1 FIATUSD = $1 constantly
Feb 22 10:40:16 <Ukto>	you have shares that may be traded out for USD by another entity
Feb 22 10:40:37 <Ukto>	yes
Feb 22 10:40:45 <Ukto>	we are not breaking any eWallet laws
Feb 22 10:40:55 <Ukto>	you cant spend FIATUSD can you?
Feb 22 10:41:10 <ThickAsThieves>	although i suppose i could sell 1 FIATUSD for more or less than $1 worth of BTC
Feb 22 10:41:26 <Ukto>	the market can valuate the usd aginst the BTC however it wants
Feb 22 10:41:29 <Ukto>	as it does currently.
Feb 22 10:41:32 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Feb 22 10:41:50 <Ukto>	My comment about legal reasons, was ment to be very broad, not specific. :)
Feb 22 10:42:05 <ThickAsThieves>	is this the only asset exchange that has somethng like this?
Feb 22 10:42:17 <BitHub>	so if i have a few g's in a certain currency can i float it as an asset onbf?
Feb 22 10:42:21 <Ukto>	Yes.
Feb 22 10:42:22 <BitHub>	of
Feb 22 10:42:30 <Ukto>	BitHub: you could try.
Feb 22 10:42:33 <Ukto>	I wont stop you
Feb 22 10:42:54 <BitHub>	is this kind of what this is? i've been following but a bit lost
Feb 22 10:42:55 <Ukto>	The diffrence is that people can instantly exchange the FIAT.*'s for real currency via BF/Weex
Feb 22 10:43:30 <Ukto>	for example, on BF, if you goto the transactions page
Feb 22 10:43:37 <BitHub>	ahh okey so instead of sending btc back to weex i can send these fiat.usd or buy em and it'll instantly show up as fiat on weex
Feb 22 10:43:38 <Ukto>	you will see you can withdraw AUD,CAD,USD shares
Feb 22 10:43:43 <Ukto>	yes
Feb 22 10:44:04 <Ukto>	you can deposit 'shares' from weex of any currency, or withdraw them
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Feb 22 10:44:28 <BitHub>	cool
Feb 22 10:44:39 <BitHub>	only these shares or all the ones on bf?
Feb 22 10:44:54 <Ukto>	yes.
Feb 22 10:45:07 <Ukto>	for example, if you have 10 AUD in weex
Feb 22 10:45:16 <Ukto>	you can deposit it into BF for 10 FIAT.AUD shares
Feb 22 10:45:18 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 22 10:45:18 <gribble>	1 BTC = 31.29999 U.S. dollars = 23.6941635 Euros
Feb 22 10:45:25 <Ukto>	you can then place them for sale at whatever rate per AUD you want.
Feb 22 10:45:41 <Ukto>	if I buy those 10, I can choose to withdraw them to weex, and have 10 AUD in weex.
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Feb 22 10:45:55 <BitHub>	nice
Feb 22 10:46:14 <BitHub>	so when you going to hit up all the countries that have a closed exchanged? :P
Feb 22 10:46:20 <BitHub>	that would be pretty amazing
Feb 22 10:46:22 <Ukto>	now think about that, with the big project for BF I am working in. ;)
Feb 22 10:46:41 *	BitHub nods
Feb 22 10:46:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063925 = 2.7622 BTC [-]
Feb 22 10:46:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 271 @ 0.00063913 = 0.1732 BTC [-]
Feb 22 10:47:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 22 10:47:18 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222554 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1221 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 40 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
Feb 22 10:58:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00979 BTC [+]
Feb 22 11:00:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064239 = 2.7758 BTC [+]
Feb 22 11:00:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36350 @ 0.00064252 = 23.3556 BTC [+]
Feb 22 11:00:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13122 @ 0.00064286 = 8.4356 BTC [+]
Feb 22 11:03:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 31.99
Feb 22 11:03:15 <gribble>	There are currently 5754.009 bitcoins offered at or under 31.99 USD, worth 181961.646777 USD in total.
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Feb 22 11:07:36 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146009.0
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Feb 22 11:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	<Ukto> Rather than the previous limitation of 'I can SELL it for USD' << this is a good point for sure.
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Feb 22 11:21:58 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/feb/21/online-poker-bill-moves-forward-nevada-legislature/
Feb 22 11:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool.
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Feb 22 11:25:09 <kakobrekla>	if its legal no need to use btc
Feb 22 11:25:18 <kakobrekla>	just stick with dat stupid dollars
Feb 22 11:27:26 <ThickAsThieves>	a job for mpoe-pr?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145919.0
Feb 22 11:27:39 <Ukto>	fucking retarded government
Feb 22 11:27:47 <Ukto>	make it illegal
Feb 22 11:27:49 <Ukto>	wipe out the competition
Feb 22 11:27:56 <Ukto>	and then make it legal again for the big boys
Feb 22 11:28:40 <BitHub>	that's how its always been
Feb 22 11:28:52 <Ukto>	I know. just shadey.
Feb 22 11:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto yep exactly.
Feb 22 11:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063915 = 2.7618 BTC [-]
Feb 22 11:29:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14179 @ 0.00063913 = 9.0622 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 11:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	big boys can be bothered to jump through all the hoops to bribe you
Feb 22 11:29:27 <mircea_popescu>	small timers couldn't do it anyway.
Feb 22 11:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves why ?
Feb 22 11:30:05 <ThickAsThieves>	nvm, i just started reading when i linked
Feb 22 11:31:06 <ThickAsThieves>	mpoe-pr is a "skidmark" hehe
Feb 22 11:31:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.686 = 5.488 BTC [+]
Feb 22 11:32:24 <kakobrekla>	sadly there are just 2 places in this whole economy where one can make any serious coin
Feb 22 11:32:35 <kakobrekla>	just had a short discussion over this
Feb 22 11:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves ya well, one doesn't need five cents to have an opinion,
Feb 22 11:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	beauty of the interwebs.
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Feb 22 11:56:13 <pigeons>	ukto i'll scroll up and read about FIAT, but what's up with https://bitfunder.com/asset/ASIC.COOP and https://bitfunder.com/asset/Biz27B-6
Feb 22 11:56:41 <Ukto>	what about them?
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Feb 22 11:57:12 <pigeons>	who are they?
Feb 22 11:57:24 <Ukto>	ASIC.COOP is ciuciu it was a prev glbse asset
Feb 22 11:57:39 <pigeons>	that guy's a nut!
Feb 22 11:57:56 *	Ukto shrugs, he wanted to relist, and make his shares available to his issuers
Feb 22 11:58:03 <Ukto>	I am just here to help
Feb 22 11:58:10 <pigeons>	well, i guess when mircea_popescu is the standard, being nuts isn't a disqualifier
Feb 22 11:58:13 <kakobrekla>	reglbsed.
Feb 22 11:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	i am nuts now ?!
Feb 22 11:58:43 <pigeons>	you're not?
Feb 22 11:58:49 <Ukto>	.. havent you always been?
Feb 22 11:58:49 <Ukto>	;)
Feb 22 11:58:56 <pigeons>	not that there's anything wrong with it...
Feb 22 11:59:34 <pigeons>	what about the super secret "we can't stop you from buyinf our secret not-for-you shares?"
Feb 22 11:59:44 <Ukto>	dont ask me
Feb 22 11:59:49 <Ukto>	i told him he needs to specify stuff
Feb 22 11:59:52 <Ukto>	or ppl will ignore it
Feb 22 11:59:53 *	Ukto shrugs
Feb 22 12:00:13 <Ukto>	he does supposedly have something to back it
Feb 22 12:00:19 <Ukto>	hes just too scared to talk abou tit
Feb 22 12:00:22 <Ukto>	afraid of legal issues
Feb 22 12:01:15 <mod6>	wat
Feb 22 12:01:31 <Ukto>	yeah, I rolled my eyes, said w/e
Feb 22 12:01:41 <mod6>	how's it goin -assets?
Feb 22 12:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064293 = 3.2147 BTC [+]
Feb 22 12:01:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064294 = 2.7781 BTC [+]
Feb 22 12:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1733 @ 0.00064311 = 1.1145 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 12:03:10 <jurov>	this is true nut: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101771.msg1407323#msg1407323
Feb 22 12:03:16 <jurov>	not our mircea
Feb 22 12:03:33 <Ukto>	honestly
Feb 22 12:03:36 <Ukto>	I think were all nuts
Feb 22 12:03:36 <Ukto>	heh
Feb 22 12:03:40 <Ukto>	bitcoin... pfft
Feb 22 12:03:49 <jurov>	In 2009 I was beaten nearly to death by a man with a tire Iron and have not been able to maintain a normal job sence which is why I fell inlove with bitcoins so much
Feb 22 12:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	?!
Feb 22 12:04:20 <jurov>	just an excerpt from said url
Feb 22 12:04:23 <mod6>	that guy is on beat-down status
Feb 22 12:04:35 <mod6>	car accident and got beat with a tire iron!?
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Feb 22 12:04:57 <mod6>	that sux
Feb 22 12:06:34 <pigeons>	crazy stuff
Feb 22 12:06:35 <jurov>	so, there are not yet relisted cases n the scene, ukto beware :D
Feb 22 12:07:06 <Ukto>	.. what?
Feb 22 12:08:22 <jurov>	the MMM above
Feb 22 12:08:35 <Ukto>	mmm?
Feb 22 12:09:13 <jurov>	the thread is about mmm glbse stuff
Feb 22 12:11:00 <jurov>	issued by a man with 15day migraines :(
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Feb 22 12:13:11 <DeaDTerra>	WTB XRP, Pm me with offer!
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Feb 22 12:29:45 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 22 12:29:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.11001, Best ask: 31.14856, Bid-ask spread: 0.03855, Last trade: 31.09901, 24 hour volume: 56442.79364155, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.27998
Feb 22 12:29:57 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 22 12:29:58 <gribble>	1 BTC = 31.09901 U.S. dollars = 23.5242133 Euros
Feb 22 12:30:36 <jurov>	mpoe results will be very interesting
Feb 22 12:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006431 = 2.7788 BTC [-]
Feb 22 12:31:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3267 @ 0.00064311 = 2.101 BTC [+]
Feb 22 12:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064312 = 10.2899 BTC [+]
Feb 22 12:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3912 @ 0.00064314 = 2.516 BTC [+]
Feb 22 12:31:22 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, you said maybe you'll do the report tomorrow morning instead of in the night, have you decided?
Feb 22 12:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	iirc what i said was that i'll publish the report and then wait a day for any errors / complaints before making payments
Feb 22 12:35:27 <jurov>	ah so!
Feb 22 12:35:47 <jurov>	Please include the vwap used into the report.
Feb 22 12:36:01 <jurov>	especially now it's changing wildly
Feb 22 12:36:39 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 22 12:36:40 <gribble>	30.27
Feb 22 12:36:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.3499 = 8.7475 BTC [-]
Feb 22 12:37:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 12:39:48 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 22 12:39:49 <gribble>	30.27
Feb 22 12:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00063937 = 1.5345 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 12:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/least-likely-to-succeed-character-the-upseller/
Feb 22 12:58:45 <mircea_popescu>	i should probably start selling my own brand of napalm
Feb 22 12:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	for customer support
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Feb 22 13:09:30 <jurov>	well,everyone has something to get angry over
Feb 22 13:10:16 <jurov>	btw, i came up with better analogy with the NAT problem... it's like telephone from which you can make outgoing calls only
Feb 22 13:10:48 <mod6>	i like this:
Feb 22 13:10:49 <mod6>	The reason I take the time to type out a response like that is because I enjoy treating people I don’t know like they’re actual human beings, take them seriously and so forth.
Feb 22 13:10:52 <jurov>	just because phone company depleted all numbers can't/doesn't
Feb 22 13:10:54 <mod6>	^^^
Feb 22 13:11:25 <jurov>	can't/doesn't make phone numbers longer
Feb 22 13:11:26 <mod6>	the "investment" statment was a bit bizzare
Feb 22 13:11:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.27 = 0.81 BTC [-]
Feb 22 13:11:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.26392 BTC [-]
Feb 22 13:18:07 <mod6>	ugh, have been sick as hell the last 2 weeks. :/
Feb 22 13:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00063937 = 1.6624 BTC [-]
Feb 22 13:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063936 = 2.7627 BTC [-]
Feb 22 13:18:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4179 @ 0.00063926 = 2.6715 BTC [-]
Feb 22 13:18:50 <mod6>	starting to feel better today thouhg.
Feb 22 13:18:53 <mod6>	*though
Feb 22 13:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064301 = 2.7784 BTC [+]
Feb 22 13:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3679 @ 0.00064314 = 2.3661 BTC [+]
Feb 22 13:20:19 <mod6>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 22 13:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062729 / 0.00063605 / 0.00064314 (1284428 shares, 816.97 BTC), 7D: 0.000622 / 0.00064942 / 0.00068894 (10515301 shares, 6,828.92 BTC), 30D: 0.00059517 / 0.00066478 / 0.0007 (72318162 shares, 48,076.07 BTC)
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Feb 22 13:32:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00591 = 0.591 BTC [-]
Feb 22 13:32:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 740 @ 0.0059 = 4.366 BTC [-]
Feb 22 13:32:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00589 = 0.0589 BTC [-]
Feb 22 13:32:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00588 = 0.147 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 13:34:04 <mod6>	so is ripple dead yet?
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Feb 22 13:38:05 <pigeons>	well the new system operaters are trying to discourage calling trust lines "credit" I noticed
Feb 22 13:38:37 <mod6>	ahh. ok. i was wondering how (or why) a system of credit would need to be established...
Feb 22 13:39:11 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> btw, i came up with better analogy with the NAT problem... it's like telephone from which you can make outgoing calls only << pretty much the only way to use a phone.
Feb 22 13:39:30 <swhitt>	anyone know how to contact evoorhees?
Feb 22 13:39:41 <swhitt>	someone just successfully pulled off a doublespend attack on sdice
Feb 22 13:39:43 <iz>	you can also answer a ringing phone
Feb 22 13:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	he idles here sometimes swhitt
Feb 22 13:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	hm, link ?
Feb 22 13:39:58 <iz>	a ringing phone with NAT would require port forwards
Feb 22 13:40:07 <swhitt>	I was playing, this was my original losing bet
Feb 22 13:40:17 <swhitt>	https://blockchain.info/tx-index/55341372
Feb 22 13:40:21 <swhitt>	258 bytes
Feb 22 13:40:27 <jurov>	oh, mircea_popescu doesn't need to answer phones, he's got people for that
Feb 22 13:40:29 <swhitt>	then a new block came in with a txn not in the mempool
Feb 22 13:40:30 <swhitt>	https://blockchain.info/tx/3947b301d36aecb53fc0c060b7815db1b426cc71dae9e2dcb2a0064bce818cd1
Feb 22 13:40:32 <iz>	haha
Feb 22 13:40:41 <swhitt>	same inputs and outputs but 1 additional byte, I believe OP_FALSE
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Feb 22 13:40:47 <swhitt>	which doesn't need to be signed
Feb 22 13:40:51 <swhitt>	so the txid changed
Feb 22 13:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	jurov literally. what am i to answer a phone !? "don't call us, we'll call you to an artform"
Feb 22 13:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 185 @ 0.006 = 1.11 BTC [-]
Feb 22 13:41:14 <jcpham>	hello mircea_popescu
Feb 22 13:41:26 <mircea_popescu>	swhitt did s.dice pay both ?
Feb 22 13:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham heya jcpham!
Feb 22 13:41:35 <swhitt>	mircea_popescu: yes
Feb 22 13:41:51 <swhitt>	it payed my original losing bet
Feb 22 13:42:01 <swhitt>	and then it paid the attacked confirmed bet
Feb 22 13:42:08 <mod6>	I saw something on btctalk about some new ways to try to exploit double-spends against s.dice.  not sure if its effective...
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Feb 22 13:42:17 <maximian>	evoorhees says that they do suffer double-spends from time to time
Feb 22 13:42:18 <mod6>	maybe it was yesterday...
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Feb 22 13:42:45 <swhitt>	it looked like the doublespend attack person is working with a miner
Feb 22 13:42:49 <maximian>	and that they implement fixes accordingly
Feb 22 13:42:59 <swhitt>	the attack bets were not in my mempool
Feb 22 13:43:03 <swhitt>	but they showed up in a block
Feb 22 13:43:09 <mircea_popescu>	swhitt i sent him a dinger.
Feb 22 13:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	thanks for reporting.
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Feb 22 13:43:36 <swhitt>	mircea_popescu: thanks, I am making a list of transactions included in the attack
Feb 22 13:43:43 <DeaDTerra>	I managed to double spend S.DICE succuessfully thought a bug in the SatoshiDice client.
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Feb 22 13:44:10 <DeaDTerra>	I managed to get 4 BTC that I would otherwise not have received. Though I reported the bug and it should be fixed now
Feb 22 13:44:11 <maximian>	he's sometimes available on Skype as evoorhees
Feb 22 13:44:35 <mod6>	DeaDTerra: what do you mean by "SatoshiDice client"?
Feb 22 13:44:37 <DeaDTerra>	best way to contact him is indeed via Skype
Feb 22 13:44:55 <DeaDTerra>	there's a SatoshiDice Client/app for android as well as Mac/pc/linux
Feb 22 13:45:02 <DeaDTerra>	search satoshidice app on the forums :)
Feb 22 13:45:05 <mod6>	OH... ok. didn't know that.
Feb 22 13:45:09 <mod6>	thx
Feb 22 13:45:13 <swhitt>	the client doens't let you spend unconfirmed change though
Feb 22 13:45:16 <DeaDTerra>	no pronlems :)
Feb 22 13:45:25 <DeaDTerra>	nope
Feb 22 13:45:26 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: nat is like asking someone else to take a piss for you
Feb 22 13:45:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 22 13:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons yeah.
Feb 22 13:45:40 <mod6>	you guys no like NAT 'eh?
Feb 22 13:45:42 <DeaDTerra>	but as said due to a bug I was able to send of a double spend and it worked out for some reason :P
Feb 22 13:45:44 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222573 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1202 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 4 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
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Feb 22 13:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	they no like nat.
Feb 22 13:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	i like nat, but they say i'm a nut.
Feb 22 13:48:13 <mod6>	;;calc 3651011/4036526
Feb 22 13:48:13 <gribble>	0.904493368803
Feb 22 13:48:30 <mod6>	so ~9% change up
Feb 22 13:48:59 <ThickAsThieves>	was like 15%-20% yesterday I think
Feb 22 13:49:01 <mod6>	(10:48) < mircea_popescu> i like nat, but they say i'm a nut.  << for someone who isn't a programmer, you have a keen eye for what makes sense in compsci
Feb 22 13:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 im the boss all software engineers wish they had.
Feb 22 13:49:37 <mod6>	:]
Feb 22 13:50:10 <mod6>	one thing that makes me laugh is about these -otc d00dz who constantly bitch about MPEx's lack of CSS or conformity to standards.
Feb 22 13:50:20 <mod6>	its like, many lulz
Feb 22 13:50:49 <jurov>	just a convenient topic to bitch about
Feb 22 13:50:54 <mod6>	ThickAsThieves: the diffiulty went up that much or just the btc spot price?
Feb 22 13:51:19 <jurov>	mod6, it was the difficulty that spiked yest
Feb 22 13:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	myeah, otc evaporatively cooled or w/e it was
Feb 22 13:51:31 <ThickAsThieves>	Est % Change
Feb 22 13:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i find that so odd, im still measuring the output at like 27th
Feb 22 13:51:40 <ThickAsThieves>	was that high
Feb 22 13:51:40 <jurov>	so gribble was thinking it will got 15% up
Feb 22 13:51:44 <jurov>	*go
Feb 22 13:52:00 <mod6>	oh hmm. ok. didn't know that.
Feb 22 13:52:02 <ThickAsThieves>	i think it was even up to 20%
Feb 22 13:52:28 <jurov>	and not difficulty but hashrate to be exact.
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Feb 22 13:53:02 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm missing something, but why would the hashrate change so much overnight?
Feb 22 13:53:18 <mod6>	maybe the asics made it out of tennekey
Feb 22 13:53:26 <ThickAsThieves>	but it went down
Feb 22 13:53:28 <jurov>	it does normally, it's variance
Feb 22 13:53:58 <jurov>	miners get more successful in finding blocks -> hashrate increas is inferred
Feb 22 13:54:07 <ThickAsThieves>	ah i see
Feb 22 13:54:09 <pigeons>	"he reason I take the time to type out a response like that is because I enjoy treating people I don’t know like they’re actual human beings, take them seriously and so forth."
Feb 22 13:54:13 <pigeons>	who said that?
Feb 22 13:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves estimating hashrate is a very noisy process
Feb 22 13:54:26 <mod6>	mircea_popescu just did in his blog
Feb 22 13:54:28 <jurov>	i don't think bitcoincharts meticulusly gathers stats from the pools how many hashes got computed actually
Feb 22 13:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	there's no actual way to measure it
Feb 22 13:55:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i was forgetting about the "luck" aspect i guess
Feb 22 13:55:26 <mod6>	well, "just" meaning like an hour ago in here: (09:58) < mircea_popescu> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/least-likely-to-succeed-character-the-upseller/
Feb 22 13:56:11 <swhitt>	it's a poisson process
Feb 22 13:56:41 <swhitt>	you can estimate what lambda is by the number of occurrences per unit time
Feb 22 13:56:42 <jurov>	dunno if it's a poisson.. we just infer from very few data points
Feb 22 13:57:03 <ThickAsThieves>	so does the difficulty prediction get more stable the closer to the end of the current diff level?
Feb 22 13:57:03 <swhitt>	and the difficulty adjustment is to get lambda back to the average time of 10 minutes
Feb 22 13:57:07 <jurov>	if the pools exported stats about work submitted, that would be more reliable
Feb 22 13:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	its a poisson process by definition neh ?
Feb 22 13:57:19 <swhitt>	yes it's a poisson process by definitions
Feb 22 13:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	jurov there's no practical way for the pools to do it either, not as hashes
Feb 22 13:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	they could perhaps report shares, but there's issues with that too (i am told, i don't really understand this)
Feb 22 13:57:50 <swhitt>	it would be more reliable but you have 20160 datapoints
Feb 22 13:58:02 <swhitt>	good enough for gubment work
Feb 22 13:58:07 <jurov>	lol
Feb 22 13:58:10 <jcpham>	normalize it, same chart
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Feb 22 13:58:48 <swhitt>	mircea_popescu: well, each pool has a different difficulty for the shares
Feb 22 13:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Feb 22 13:59:01 <jurov>	the pools must have a way to measure the work semi-precisely.. to be able to sanely compute payouts
Feb 22 13:59:05 <swhitt>	and many pools adjust diff for each user
Feb 22 13:59:31 <mircea_popescu>	ya hta'ts what i meant, they use the per-user diff thing
Feb 22 14:00:34 <jurov>	in the end difficulty really only takes into account really issued blocks, not the work behind them... so the point is moot
Feb 22 14:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	probably wuile's estimates are the better thing to go by
Feb 22 14:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
Feb 22 14:01:29 <jcpham>	http://blog.rongarret.info/2013/02/a-simple-solution-to-credit-card-fraud.html
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Feb 22 14:02:03 <ThickAsThieves>	so as an exercise, what data and info would you use in assessing XDIFFMAR?
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Feb 22 14:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham lol, i said it first omg.
Feb 22 14:02:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i know its a loaded question
Feb 22 14:02:50 <jcpham>	he's on the right path...
Feb 22 14:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	true.
Feb 22 14:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	well im too lazy to comment on google stuff, so.
Feb 22 14:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	he'll figure it out.
Feb 22 14:03:43 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, i just drawn some lines over sipa's graphs
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Feb 22 14:04:02 <jurov>	and decided it will be under 8
Feb 22 14:04:19 <jurov>	bu the moon and stars and technical analysis
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Feb 22 14:04:43 <jurov>	8 million
Feb 22 14:05:21 <ThickAsThieves>	were your eyes open or closed when you drew the lines? ;)
Feb 22 14:05:28 <mod6>	moon and stars, is that like licking your finger to determine which way the wind blows?
Feb 22 14:05:31 <mod6>	lol
Feb 22 14:05:31 <jurov>	also sold few shares of iDiff-E on bitfunder for 0.07 hedged by bitbet but won't sell for that price anymore
Feb 22 14:06:04 <ThickAsThieves>	that is specifically what i'm assessing actually
Feb 22 14:06:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i bought at .07
Feb 22 14:06:37 <jurov>	so you bought and now having second thoughts ? :D
Feb 22 14:06:59 <ThickAsThieves>	mmm, it wasnt a LOT of btc
Feb 22 14:07:29 <ThickAsThieves>	just that i did base my choice on somewhat ignorant grasp of gribbles predictions
Feb 22 14:07:50 <jurov>	i bribed gribble
Feb 22 14:08:11 <jurov>	don't trust him
Feb 22 14:08:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i knew it
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Feb 22 14:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;bribe gribble
Feb 22 14:09:23 <gribble>	Error: "bribe" is not a valid command.
Feb 22 14:09:29 <mircea_popescu>	lies.
Feb 22 14:09:32 *	jcpham sets mode +777 chmod755 
Feb 22 14:09:52 *	chmod755 sets mode +ham jcpham
Feb 22 14:09:54 <jurov>	;;sudo bribe
Feb 22 14:09:55 <gribble>	do it yourself, punk.
Feb 22 14:09:57 <jcpham>	hax
Feb 22 14:10:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7009 @ 0.00064314 = 4.5078 BTC [+]
Feb 22 14:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064339 = 6.4339 BTC [+]
Feb 22 14:10:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 341 @ 0.0006434 = 0.2194 BTC [+]
Feb 22 14:10:15 <mod6>	;;donate gribble
Feb 22 14:10:16 <gribble>	Error: "donate" is not a valid command.
Feb 22 14:10:22 <jurov>	;;botsnack
Feb 22 14:10:23 <gribble>	Forget the snack, just send me some bitcoins at 1MgD6rah5zUgEGYZnNmdpnXMaDR3itKYzU :)
Feb 22 14:10:24 <chmod755>	;;botsnack
Feb 22 14:10:24 <gribble>	Forget the snack, just send me some bitcoins at 1MgD6rah5zUgEGYZnNmdpnXMaDR3itKYzU :)
Feb 22 14:10:25 <chmod755>	^
Feb 22 14:10:28 <mod6>	ah ha
Feb 22 14:10:43 <jurov>	finally figured it
Feb 22 14:11:13 <mod6>	wow 269.69 received
Feb 22 14:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	gribble is richer than most americans
Feb 22 14:11:48 <chmod755>	you guys suck...my most recent snack is still the last botsnack
Feb 22 14:11:58 <chmod755>	0.01
Feb 22 14:12:00 <lyspooner>	mircea_popescu that is funny
Feb 22 14:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	isn't that a depressing thought
Feb 22 14:12:01 <chmod755>	lol
Feb 22 14:12:03 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: yeah, this is probably true.
Feb 22 14:12:30 <pigeons>	i'm trying to understand the differences between the exchange on weex and the bitfunder fiat assets
Feb 22 14:12:38 <chmod755>	mircea_popescu, errr. except gribble can't spend the money without nanotube
Feb 22 14:12:40 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 i dunno, i vaguely recall reading the avg net worth is teetering towards negative.
Feb 22 14:12:47 <mod6>	yeah, it seems to me that just about NO ONE has any cash to spare.  anyone who works a "regular" type job anyway...
Feb 22 14:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	chmod755 not necessarily a bad thing that :p
Feb 22 14:14:41 <mod6>	people here wont put up with this for forever.  eventually when food and gas prices get high enough... RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE
Feb 22 14:15:07 <ThickAsThieves>	pigeons, the main difference is you can use different words when you talk about your transactions now :)
Feb 22 14:15:22 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 you think ?
Feb 22 14:15:29 <mod6>	i feel it.
Feb 22 14:15:33 <mod6>	people here are angry
Feb 22 14:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i like the part of "buy dollars with bitcoins" tbh.
Feb 22 14:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 ya but against the machine ? i imagine it'll be more against each other.
Feb 22 14:15:59 <mod6>	they know they're angry. im not sure they can put a finger on it yet...
Feb 22 14:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	the govt will be fine for a while yet.
Feb 22 14:16:12 <mod6>	they don't realize quite what is happening too much disinformation
Feb 22 14:16:36 <mod6>	but someday, it will become clear. (maybe when gas hits $20/gal) and a loaf of bread is $25
Feb 22 14:16:41 <mod6>	then RAGE
Feb 22 14:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. for instance, i heard today that the irs a. moved the start of filling from 15th to 31th january
Feb 22 14:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	and also doesn't have the forms ready, so you can't file
Feb 22 14:17:01 <mircea_popescu>	but it won't extend the deadline either.
Feb 22 14:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is nowhere on the news.
Feb 22 14:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that obama is a chicken eating nigger faggot or whatever, THAT is all over the news
Feb 22 14:17:26 <ThickAsThieves>	one thing i dont get is, how can the irs even pretend to be able to verify tax returns?
Feb 22 14:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	as if anyone actually cares.
Feb 22 14:17:33 <mod6>	no, state media outlets wont publish any of these kind of things... quelling the masses.
Feb 22 14:17:45 <ThickAsThieves>	how many audits can they really do
Feb 22 14:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well, it's an intimidation racket mostly.
Feb 22 14:18:27 <mod6>	people here are beginning to understand the depth of debt problems... they don't understand the fine points, but they know that it can't be good that the fedz owe $16tn
Feb 22 14:18:27 <lyspooner>	mircea_popescu: did you see the moneyness blog article about bitcoin securities?
Feb 22 14:18:36 <jurov>	oh you wish there will be rage. they invent yet another war, the more nonsensical, the better
Feb 22 14:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner have not. link ?
Feb 22 14:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	jurov maybe they finalyl invade canada
Feb 22 14:18:53 <lyspooner>	http://jpkoning.blogspot.ca/2013/02/financial-deepening-and-currency.html
Feb 22 14:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	like it was foretold in fallout 2.
Feb 22 14:19:26 <mod6>	jurov: i hope that people here will realize the fleecing that has happened here and hold the parties responsible.
Feb 22 14:19:29 <mod6>	soon.
Feb 22 14:19:33 <mod6>	very soon.
Feb 22 14:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	"Eichengreen's theory is that the US dollar became the world's go-to currency because of the emergence of a very specific financial instrument—the banker's acceptance."
Feb 22 14:20:03 <jurov>	if they didn't realize it so far... they'll be too embarrassed to admit it now
Feb 22 14:20:03 <mircea_popescu>	certainly.
Feb 22 14:20:25 <mircea_popescu>	huh now that's a good point.
Feb 22 14:20:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.0006434 = 15.892 BTC [+]
Feb 22 14:21:01 <mod6>	yeah but embarrassed isn't really a problem. it doesnt feel good either way to have your wealth stripped away by corporations and banksters.
Feb 22 14:21:19 <mod6>	at first they will blame themselfs for being too ingnorant or some such thing...
Feb 22 14:21:26 <mod6>	but then their anger will be directed outward.
Feb 22 14:21:31 <mod6>	thats the RATM part.
Feb 22 14:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner he lists picostocks. da fuck is wrong with people.
Feb 22 14:22:47 <mod6>	most people feel helpless against the in the face of big bro. so i think people are just waiting for it to implode on itself.  which it will... but there will be twists and turns in the road.
Feb 22 14:23:29 <jurov>	i was reading a good analysis how overthrowing governments happened only after food prices rose out of reach. there was NO other correlation found
Feb 22 14:23:53 <jcpham>	starving people have much power
Feb 22 14:23:55 <jurov>	govt can do prettny much whatever it wants, as long ppl are fed
Feb 22 14:23:56 <lyspooner>	oh, mircea_popescu, i see you already posted a comment on that site
Feb 22 14:23:59 <mod6>	yeah, no one really gives a shit about government until it gets in the way of feeding yourself and your family.
Feb 22 14:24:26 <mod6>	then the torches+pitch-forks come out.
Feb 22 14:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner i have ?
Feb 22 14:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	i mean i did just now
Feb 22 14:25:11 <lyspooner>	gwern right?
Feb 22 14:26:26 <iz>	what's that mtgox page that shows bid ask walls?
Feb 22 14:26:26 <mod6>	(11:15) < mircea_popescu> mod6 ya but against the machine ? i imagine it'll be more against each other. << not sure this can be avoided any more. people are wholly divided.
Feb 22 14:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Feb 22 14:26:41 <jurov>	iz ,mtgoxlive.com
Feb 22 14:26:50 <mod6>	I guess I hope that people can come together and clean house entirely at all levels of government.
Feb 22 14:27:19 <iz>	i'm thinking of that static page..
Feb 22 14:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	never gonna happen mod6.
Feb 22 14:27:25 <mod6>	I would think that all politics are local, so it just depends on where you're at.  But there will be two sides.
Feb 22 14:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	romanians for instance had a much better shot in 1989, and still we didn't round them up and shoot the lot.
Feb 22 14:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	which i still say would have been the correct solution.
Feb 22 14:28:10 <mod6>	you did get the president and his wife thought right?
Feb 22 14:28:10 <jurov>	exactly
Feb 22 14:28:24 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 ya.
Feb 22 14:28:30 <mod6>	*nod* i remember that.
Feb 22 14:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	well, the president and the vice president or w/e
Feb 22 14:28:43 <jurov>	mod6, forget the president.. here whole secret service turned into "entrepreneurs"
Feb 22 14:28:46 <mod6>	ah.
Feb 22 14:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't on the grounds of being the wife, was on the grounds of being pretty much the #2
Feb 22 14:29:09 <mod6>	ahh i see.
Feb 22 14:29:25 <mod6>	i remember it on tv. it was like, quick trial, then outback to the woodshed.
Feb 22 14:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	on christmas eve
Feb 22 14:29:38 <mod6>	Ahh thats right!
Feb 22 14:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	half hour before abolishing the deathpenalty.
Feb 22 14:29:45 <jurov>	mod6, and the same will happen everywhere... intelligent people will see the system as unsustainable, they'll plan exit routes accordingly
Feb 22 14:29:46 <mod6>	merry christmas, you are free.
Feb 22 14:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	the trial was a monstrosity tho.
Feb 22 14:30:29 <mod6>	i don't remember the details.. i guess I was only 9.
Feb 22 14:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/procesul-ceausescu/ there's the full thing adnotated. (in romanian)
Feb 22 14:30:46 <mod6>	oh cool. :)
Feb 22 14:30:49 <mircea_popescu>	possibly the worst kangoroo court i ever saw.
Feb 22 14:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.0006434 = 7.3669 BTC [+]
Feb 22 14:31:27 <mod6>	yeah, it was def. a kangoroo deal, i do remember that.  I think they typically are after the revolutionaries take over.
Feb 22 14:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	ya but this was a brand apart.
Feb 22 14:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	the judge was prosecuting from the bench for crying out loud
Feb 22 14:32:14 <mod6>	oh.. yeah. that doesn't seem like it should make sense. couldn't the people put a good enough case together?
Feb 22 14:32:23 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 22 14:32:25 *	mod6 translates blog
Feb 22 14:32:33 <mircea_popescu>	you couldn't find five people who could actually argue a case atthe time.
Feb 22 14:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	and i mean that literally.
Feb 22 14:33:44 <mod6>	well, that happens sometimes.  im not sure that we have a lot of lawyers who could successfully prosecute any of the banksters or government officials who've broken the law.
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Feb 22 14:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, it was something like Francis Biddle or whoever being Indian and going "you're a bad man, you're a very very bad man" at Goebbels.
Feb 22 14:34:12 <mod6>	i mean, it is a raquette<sp?> and a mob of sorts after all.
Feb 22 14:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	racket ?
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Feb 22 14:34:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN29X2HCKpU this guy.
Feb 22 14:34:43 <jurov>	mircea, and you think if you started to shot communists, would that happen anywhere near accurately and effectively?
Feb 22 14:34:52 <jurov>	better not think about it
Feb 22 14:34:58 <mod6>	yeah, for some reason i thought the crime related racket had a different speling.
Feb 22 14:35:05 <mod6>	*spelling... damn i suck at spelling
Feb 22 14:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	jurov anyone who ever worked for either the party or the state, bang. simple solution.
Feb 22 14:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	be left with half the population maybe, and a clear point in mind. don't do that.
Feb 22 14:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15657 @ 0.0006434 = 10.0737 BTC [+]
Feb 22 14:36:41 <mod6>	hmm.. yeah there are a lot of people who work in goverment here, and its getting larger.
Feb 22 14:36:43 <jurov>	hm, last time such thing happened with any success was probably when israelites fled egypt
Feb 22 14:37:01 <mod6>	it used to be that you didn't want to work for government ever, unless you were already rich and "heard the call of duty"
Feb 22 14:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	hey, im not saying it's practical.
Feb 22 14:37:03 <jurov>	and torah was written by winning side anyway
Feb 22 14:37:08 <mod6>	now its like people aspire to work for big bro.
Feb 22 14:37:11 <mod6>	its crazy.
Feb 22 14:37:11 <mircea_popescu>	it never is practical.
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Feb 22 14:40:38 <mod6>	(11:29) < jurov> mod6, and the same will happen everywhere... intelligent people will see the system as unsustainable, they'll plan exit routes accordingly << some might.
Feb 22 14:41:18 <mod6>	people are waking up to all of this (four years later I'll add) but there is so much disinformation out there... think frog in pot
Feb 22 14:41:18 <jurov>	not might, they will do. and even if not, in the chaos the'yll have advantage of web of contacts.
Feb 22 14:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063935 = 2.7626 BTC [-]
Feb 22 14:41:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4999 @ 0.00063928 = 3.1958 BTC [-]
Feb 22 14:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063927 = 0.6393 BTC [-]
Feb 22 14:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 821 @ 0.00063926 = 0.5248 BTC [-]
Feb 22 14:41:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 510 @ 0.00063916 = 0.326 BTC [-]
Feb 22 14:42:31 <mod6>	and since this is like the matrix, anyone who has any wealth left defends the system.
Feb 22 14:42:50 <mod6>	they're so hoplessly dependant upon easy credit and the system they'll fight to defend it.
Feb 22 14:42:56 <mod6>	until it all comes to a screeching hault.
Feb 22 14:43:02 <mod6>	then RATM
Feb 22 14:43:53 <lyspooner>	mod6, what timeline do you expect this to happen
Feb 22 14:44:01 <jurov>	mod6, read this: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml
Feb 22 14:44:18 <jurov>	and get inspired. some things will come to halt, some do not.
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Feb 22 14:45:04 <mod6>	lyspooner: i figure 3 years or less.
Feb 22 14:45:11 <mod6>	as soon as they cut off the SNAP cards.
Feb 22 14:45:37 <jurov>	What happens when a modern economy collapses, and the complex society it supports disintegrates? A look at a country that has recently undergone such an experience can be most educational.
Feb 22 14:45:49 <jurov>	it's quite long but i thoroughly enjoyed it
Feb 22 14:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it will be horrible for many of the tense spots. new york, largely boston, most of california
Feb 22 14:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	the midwest will be mostly fine, even make a pretty penny.
Feb 22 14:47:40 <jurov>	maybe. barring any serious climate problems
Feb 22 14:48:13 <mircea_popescu>	the problem with california is water really.
Feb 22 14:48:34 <mircea_popescu>	the problems with new york are too many to list.
Feb 22 14:48:39 <Bugpowder>	Whelp....  Guess I shouldn't be moving to LA
Feb 22 14:49:14 <mod6>	yeah, they wanted me to move to mountain view this year. i was like "LOL yeah right..."
Feb 22 14:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder it's a tense place to be in, if shtf.
Feb 22 14:49:28 <Bugpowder>	oh boy
Feb 22 14:49:33 <Bugpowder>	big wall
Feb 22 14:49:35 <Bugpowder>	at 31 now
Feb 22 14:50:00 <Bugpowder>	Well...  I don't think the fan will be hit
Feb 22 14:50:29 <Bugpowder>	Time to buy some fresh real estate in downtown Santa Monica
Feb 22 14:50:33 <mod6>	hmmm.
Feb 22 14:50:36 <Bugpowder>	and ride the next asset bubble
Feb 22 14:50:48 <mod6>	Maybe I'm way off and this comedy will continue for 50 years...
Feb 22 14:50:57 <Bugpowder>	while you guys are all stressing about the end of the system.  I'm going ride it up again.
Feb 22 14:51:14 <mod6>	all ponzi schemes do come to an end though...
Feb 22 14:51:27 <mod6>	Bugpowder: enjoy it while it lasts dude.
Feb 22 14:51:52 <Bugpowder>	yes but there are many ways it could play out
Feb 22 14:51:54 <mod6>	but when the music stops, I hope you're not long.
Feb 22 14:52:13 <Bugpowder>	Are we talking about global debt crisis or bitcoin prices, BTW?
Feb 22 14:52:23 <Bugpowder>	I came in late
Feb 22 14:52:27 <mod6>	hhaha, even if you are and your portfolio is worth 100bn, you won't be able to buy 6 eggs with that.
Feb 22 14:52:39 <Bugpowder>	uhhh....
Feb 22 14:52:40 <Bugpowder>	no
Feb 22 14:52:47 <mod6>	lol no!?
Feb 22 14:52:52 <mod6>	think zimbabwe
Feb 22 14:53:03 <Bugpowder>	yes
Feb 22 14:53:07 <Bugpowder>	how is that relevant?
Feb 22 14:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder topic was us collapse not btc.
Feb 22 14:53:42 <mod6>	im like wtf
Feb 22 14:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	and ftr i didn't start it.
Feb 22 14:53:47 <mod6>	ok i gotta get some thing to eat.
Feb 22 14:53:49 <mod6>	brb.
Feb 22 14:53:56 <mod6>	i started it.
Feb 22 14:54:00 <mod6>	bbs.
Feb 22 14:55:18 <Bugpowder>	short term top?
Feb 22 14:55:22 <Bugpowder>	in BTC?
Feb 22 14:55:47 <DeadWeasel>	sounds like society collapse
Feb 22 14:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	the end of the world is nigh!
Feb 22 14:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	eat your girlfriends and fuck your wine for that's all you take with you!
Feb 22 14:56:57 <Bugpowder>	The society collapse narrative is really driven by people that want to sell you gold, guns and ammo.
Feb 22 14:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder nah
Feb 22 14:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	the society collapse narrative has been a mainstay of human culture for as long as such existed
Feb 22 14:57:34 <Bugpowder>	yah
Feb 22 14:57:35 <Bugpowder>	ok
Feb 22 14:57:37 <Bugpowder>	tru
Feb 22 14:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	it was discussed in the same terms and with the same motivs in like 1400
Feb 22 14:57:46 <mircea_popescu>	we have records.
Feb 22 14:57:53 <Bugpowder>	instead of sacrificing people to the volcano
Feb 22 14:57:59 <Bugpowder>	to stave off destruction
Feb 22 14:58:10 <Bugpowder>	buy gold and bury it in your backyard
Feb 22 14:58:37 <Bugpowder>	or bitcoins
Feb 22 14:58:41 <Bugpowder>	buy bitcoins
Feb 22 14:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is tho, human society does collapse periodically.
Feb 22 14:59:41 <jurov>	i don't believe in some value tokens so much. i think rather having web of out-of-box thinking people is the key to survival.
Feb 22 15:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	also a very good point
Feb 22 15:00:06 <jurov>	by the way, you'll come around some tokens, too
Feb 22 15:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov now you know why the secret service people ended up entrepreneurs
Feb 22 15:00:32 <mircea_popescu>	in catastrophic situations knowing the right people is most valuable.
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Feb 22 15:01:03 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: what are a couple example of societal collapse?
Feb 22 15:01:04 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 15:01:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.25000, Best ask: 30.66940, Bid-ask spread: 0.41940, Last trade: 30.25000, 24 hour volume: 61491.24221722, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.38573
Feb 22 15:01:10 <Bowjob>	Oh shit
Feb 22 15:01:11 <Bowjob>	Drop!!!
Feb 22 15:01:14 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 22 15:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo the obvious one is the fall of the roman empire.
Feb 22 15:01:22 <jurov>	TomServo, http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml
Feb 22 15:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	the old south collapsed as such after the civil war. the british empire did the same.
Feb 22 15:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	napoelon's france collapsed, royal france collapsed before that
Feb 22 15:01:44 <Bugpowder>	It's driving the 24vwap up though
Feb 22 15:01:45 <Bugpowder>	 :)
Feb 22 15:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	chinese society collapsed like 6 or 7 times
Feb 22 15:02:07 <mircea_popescu>	germany collapsed end of ww2, soviet empire end of cold war
Feb 22 15:02:10 <mircea_popescu>	how many so far, a dozen ?
Feb 22 15:02:12 <DeadWeasel>	aztecs
Feb 22 15:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	list is pretty long.
Feb 22 15:02:18 <Bugpowder>	Societies do collapse
Feb 22 15:02:33 <mircea_popescu>	the hittite empire collapsed completely. the hellenistic empire (larger than any other, incidentally) did likewise
Feb 22 15:02:49 <DeadWeasel>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse#Examples_of_civilizations_and_societies_that_have_collapsed
Feb 22 15:02:52 <TomServo>	All good examples.  I guess the difference this time being the 'shrinking' of the globe?
Feb 22 15:02:54 <Bugpowder>	BUT... the probability that in any given generation a collapse will occur rather than a muddling through is pretty low
Feb 22 15:03:02 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo i wonder why'd it be a difference.
Feb 22 15:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder black swan events. fat tail. all that jazz.
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Feb 22 15:03:24 <Bugpowder>	I would think that the collapse would be more obvious ahead of time.
Feb 22 15:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Feb 22 15:03:35 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: well, the roman collapse didn't affect anything going on in america at the time.
Feb 22 15:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	i am pretty sure the correct model for understanding them is financial crisis.
Feb 22 15:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo so ?
Feb 22 15:03:58 <Bugpowder>	Like, the metro to Santa Monica is almost complete and there are some really nice parks being built.
Feb 22 15:03:59 *	burnside_afk is now known as burnside
Feb 22 15:04:05 <Bugpowder>	that does not smell like collapes
Feb 22 15:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder some of the best surviving roman architecture is from right before and right after collapse.
Feb 22 15:04:27 <Bugpowder>	How many of these collapses were due to outside influence 'changing the game'
Feb 22 15:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	in general arts trail.
Feb 22 15:04:31 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: so america collapsing isn't going to just affect america
Feb 22 15:04:42 <Bugpowder>	vs internal collapse due to debt/corruption
Feb 22 15:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo this is a theory. we have no actual history to back it yet.
Feb 22 15:04:49 <Bugpowder>	50%
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Feb 22 15:05:07 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i don't see why you think those two are categorically distinct. seems the same thing to me.
Feb 22 15:05:24 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: correct I'm just speculating - it just seems like common sense though.
Feb 22 15:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	there's nothing common about sense :D
Feb 22 15:05:41 <TomServo>	with USD being the reserve currency
Feb 22 15:05:45 <Bugpowder>	well, getting conquered, new disease vector, etc
Feb 22 15:05:45 <TomServo>	true.
Feb 22 15:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder so has china conquered the us ?
Feb 22 15:06:10 <Bugpowder>	no
Feb 22 15:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	hah.
Feb 22 15:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	if we were archeologists we'd look at the items we find and say yes it was.
Feb 22 15:07:17 <Bugpowder>	In 1986 everyone thought Japan owned the US and soon the world
Feb 22 15:07:23 <mircea_popescu>	not my point tho.
Feb 22 15:07:27 <jurov>	and germany won the WWII
Feb 22 15:07:29 <Bugpowder>	Perspectives can change quickly
Feb 22 15:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	the way "conquest" is established is look at item production and distribution sources.
Feb 22 15:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	like, buncha minoan pottery in mainland greece? minos conquered mainland greece.
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Feb 22 15:13:16 <Bowjob>	Can we stop the madness
Feb 22 15:13:23 <Bowjob>	lets crash bitcoin..
Feb 22 15:13:26 <Bowjob>	upwards!
Feb 22 15:13:28 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 15:13:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.80001, Best ask: 30.88023, Bid-ask spread: 0.08022, Last trade: 30.80001, 24 hour volume: 61512.77047919, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.38853
Feb 22 15:13:34 <Bowjob>	Good enough lol
Feb 22 15:14:16 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... i need to add more option lines.
Feb 22 15:14:25 <mod6>	jurov: thanks for that link
Feb 22 15:14:35 <mod6>	Each half-liter bottle of vodka was exchanged for ten liters of gasoline, giving vodka far greater effective energy density than rocket fuel.
Feb 22 15:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 there's an old joke, goes something like this :
Feb 22 15:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	buncha people inside a train car stopped in the middle of nowhere. they ask the conductor why aren't they moving ?
Feb 22 15:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	"because the engineer is changing the engine".
Feb 22 15:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	after a few hours they get impatient
Feb 22 15:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	"well... why are not moving still ?"
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Feb 22 15:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	"because the engineer changed the engine for a bottle of vodka.
Feb 22 15:16:14 <mod6>	haha
Feb 22 15:16:16 <mod6>	awesome
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Feb 22 15:17:11 <Bugpowder>	more option lines are definitely needed
Feb 22 15:17:23 <mod6>	i've read a lot of russian lit, and someday if things are ever better in this world, I'd like to visit.
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Feb 22 15:19:02 <Bugpowder>	BTW your analogy about china conquering the US reflects more upon the folly of inference from archeological scraps that on the reality of the current power structure.
Feb 22 15:19:11 <Bugpowder>	than on
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Feb 22 15:19:44 <Bugpowder>	Does BTCe have a deposit problem or what?
Feb 22 15:19:44 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/btceUSD.html
Feb 22 15:19:50 <mod6>	well, i think since we owe them, and basically we buy all their shit, is that not economic conquring?
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Feb 22 15:21:40 <rp44>	any perceived risk for a retracement today? seems like there is still accelerating buying at the exchanges.
Feb 22 15:21:42 <kakobrekla>	http://i.imgur.com/EA4fk.jpeg
Feb 22 15:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder possibly so, yes.
Feb 22 15:22:05 <mod6>	lol jesus & meth
Feb 22 15:22:07 <mircea_popescu>	rp44 we dunno.
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Feb 22 15:23:17 <Bowjob>	Man.. dice isnt doing so hot
Feb 22 15:24:03 <Bugpowder>	rp44 There is massive and increasing risk of retracement today
Feb 22 15:24:06 <Bugpowder>	and tomorrow
Feb 22 15:24:15 <Bugpowder>	and until it occurs
Feb 22 15:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Feb 22 15:24:22 <Bugpowder>	in my perception
Feb 22 15:24:25 <maximian>	whoa
Feb 22 15:24:30 <maximian>	another big dump
Feb 22 15:24:57 <rp44>	~150K sell on mtgox absorbed in <20 mins
Feb 22 15:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 22 15:27:20 <Bugpowder>	MOAR volume
Feb 22 15:27:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.53481, Best ask: 30.61690, Bid-ask spread: 0.08209, Last trade: 30.82357, 24 hour volume: 63933.39569825, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.39600
Feb 22 15:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	so am i adding options to 50 or to 85 ?
Feb 22 15:27:34 <Bugpowder>	50
Feb 22 15:27:44 <lyspooner>	69
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Feb 22 15:27:46 <Bugpowder>	If it gets to 40, then maybe add some more
Feb 22 15:28:28 <lyspooner>	why are the next months' volumes so low?  usually by this time there's some open interest worth talking about
Feb 22 15:28:53 <Namworld>	S.DICE is fine...
Feb 22 15:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	lyspooner ikr?
Feb 22 15:30:51 <Bugpowder>	lyspooner: there hasn't been that much volume this moth
Feb 22 15:31:02 <Bugpowder>	me, Namworld and unknown other party
Feb 22 15:31:09 <Bugpowder>	I think were most of the action
Feb 22 15:31:32 *	Namworld would like to remind everyone that don't have an MPEx account that they can buy S.DICE-PT/S.MPOE-PT/S.BBET-PT on http://www.btct.co
Feb 22 15:31:49 <Namworld>	oh yeah... apparently I chose the wrong time for those options
Feb 22 15:32:22 <Namworld>	Unless someone drops 500k BTC on the market RIGHT NOW
Feb 22 15:32:52 <Bugpowder>	it could happen
Feb 22 15:33:01 <Namworld>	Unlikely, but...
Feb 22 15:33:27 <Bugpowder>	Give me an hour... :-P
Feb 22 15:33:29 <Namworld>	maybe if I drug some bitcoin big shot enough...
Feb 22 15:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 22 15:34:47 <Namworld>	I can make that person believe the price is currently 0.30 USD/BTC and he should stop loss...
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Feb 22 15:39:30 <mjr__>	lol
Feb 22 15:39:40 <mjr__>	it would take a million and a half to move it to 28 i think
Feb 22 15:39:48 <Namworld>	Looks like we might have a good month for S.MPOE
Feb 22 15:40:02 <mjr__>	nice
Feb 22 15:40:20 <Namworld>	sure, lots of low calls...
Feb 22 15:40:42 <Namworld>	but 70k puts bought at 33-35... these are worth almost nothing by now.
Feb 22 15:41:00 <Namworld>	They were bought for 1+ BTC each...
Feb 22 15:41:02 <Namworld>	major burn
Feb 22 15:41:13 <DeadWeasel>	.
Feb 22 15:41:13 <Namworld>	maybe...
Feb 22 15:41:32 <Namworld>	might have been exercised at some point between then and now.
Feb 22 15:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i think that was covered tho
Feb 22 15:42:35 <Namworld>	probably at some point, yes
Feb 22 15:43:08 <Namworld>	just like calls might have been executed early to take profit. It's hard to evaluate.
Feb 22 15:44:42 <jborkl>	mp, I have imported and signed the new key- It will not work until the 10th, correct
Feb 22 15:46:47 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder could you get me diff futures?
Feb 22 15:46:58 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 22 15:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC)
Feb 22 15:47:15 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 22 15:47:18 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222590 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1185 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4896611.1042 | Estimated Percent Change: 34.11656
Feb 22 15:47:44 <ThickAsThieves>	thats more like it
Feb 22 15:48:02 <Namworld>	I can also get you futures
Feb 22 15:52:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064225 = 2.7752 BTC [+]
Feb 22 15:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00064257 = 3.8554 BTC [+]
Feb 22 15:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00064258 = 13.8155 BTC [+]
Feb 22 15:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 679 @ 0.0006434 = 0.4369 BTC [+]
Feb 22 15:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/
Feb 22 15:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	new option strikes available, 5 to 75.
Feb 22 15:54:13 <Namworld>	eh, that's better
Feb 22 15:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	the even values will be exercised normally after which they will no longer be offered.
Feb 22 15:54:49 <mircea_popescu>	the bot is going to quote under supervision for the next hour or so, trades may be reverted.
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Feb 22 15:55:18 <Namworld>	no even value? odd.
Feb 22 15:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 22 15:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	that is EXACTLY why i picked it :D
Feb 22 15:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	i totally can't believe i had to do this once a month ffs.
Feb 22 15:56:54 <Namworld>	eh
Feb 22 15:57:13 <ThickAsThieves>	What is "K.KBRL Pending, due klim." ?
Feb 22 15:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	values 1 to 20 worked fine for like 6 months
Feb 22 15:57:21 <Namworld>	Well expect to repeat every few years I guess.
Feb 22 15:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves more an inside joke than anything
Feb 22 15:57:31 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Feb 22 15:57:32 <Namworld>	Thick: It's a joke apparently
Feb 22 15:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17311 @ 0.0006434 = 11.1379 BTC [+]
Feb 22 15:58:06 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: get you them?
Feb 22 15:58:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15239 @ 0.00064369 = 9.8092 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 15:59:00 <Bugpowder>	[15:40] <Namworld> but 70k puts bought at 33-35... these are worth almost nothing by now.   Those were last month right?
Feb 22 15:59:31 <Bugpowder>	That was the 10k shorted then rebought.
Feb 22 15:59:37 <Namworld>	Oh, maybe
Feb 22 15:59:38 <jurov>	btw, my pympex fork is already prepared for new key.. should switch itself automatically
Feb 22 15:59:39 <Bugpowder>	remember we are on a short moth
Feb 22 15:59:41 <Bugpowder>	month
Feb 22 15:59:46 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 22 15:59:53 <Namworld>	K.KBRL seems like Ka.KoBRekLa, the manager of this channel.
Feb 22 15:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov nice!
Feb 22 16:00:06 <Namworld>	When can I buy parts of Kako?
Feb 22 16:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld it was originally, believe it or not, preparing for a bitbond listing (amazingrando's thing)
Feb 22 16:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	that deal fell through.
Feb 22 16:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	so the entire mpex community didn't end up scammed
Feb 22 16:00:48 <Namworld>	eh
Feb 22 16:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	i kept it on the books there for months, then eventually when we were preparing to launch bitbet i moved it to k.kbrl
Feb 22 16:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	i'll get rid of it one of these days, but what's the hurry.
Feb 22 16:01:44 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller:  Herrro???
Feb 22 16:01:48 <thestringpuller>	yo
Feb 22 16:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	actually...
Feb 22 16:02:02 <Bugpowder>	what did you mean, get you futures/
Feb 22 16:02:13 <thestringpuller>	can I send you money for diff futures?
Feb 22 16:02:20 <thestringpuller>	push them to smickles
Feb 22 16:02:43 <jurov>	i can do it, too
Feb 22 16:02:45 <Bugpowder>	ok
Feb 22 16:02:45 <mircea_popescu>	there, i've updated it.
Feb 22 16:02:52 <Bugpowder>	how many and what price?
Feb 22 16:02:54 <Namworld>	I offered too jurov... no answer
Feb 22 16:03:05 <thestringpuller>	im at work
Feb 22 16:03:06 <thestringpuller>	lol
Feb 22 16:03:11 <Namworld>	He wants bugpowder.
Feb 22 16:03:12 <thestringpuller>	on a phone
Feb 22 16:03:28 <thestringpuller>	i didnt see your msg Namworld
Feb 22 16:04:04 <Bowjob>	We need some bit news about s.dice.. it seems to be out of the spotlight lately
Feb 22 16:04:11 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, do you have any new assets in the pipeline for mpex?
Feb 22 16:04:22 <Bugpowder>	probably not a bad thing to be out of the spotlight
Feb 22 16:04:26 <Bugpowder>	it got a LOT of press
Feb 22 16:04:29 <jurov>	lol, he just created option upwards to 75
Feb 22 16:04:46 <jurov>	but seems he isn't selling them atm
Feb 22 16:04:54 <Bugpowder>	only after opex
Feb 22 16:05:02 <Bugpowder>	last 24 hours are too easy to game the system
Feb 22 16:05:13 <Bugpowder>	afraid to go to the gym.
Feb 22 16:05:20 <Namworld>	bugpowder... bugpowder... bugpowder everywhere on my screen! Mothra must be around.
Feb 22 16:05:20 <Bugpowder>	might need to exercise the options
Feb 22 16:05:27 <Bugpowder>	DUST
Feb 22 16:05:38 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 22 16:05:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063035 / 0.00063769 / 0.00064369 (1230906 shares, 784.94 BTC), 7D: 0.000622 / 0.00064929 / 0.00068894 (10550014 shares, 6,850.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00059613 / 0.00066482 / 0.0007 (72358008 shares, 48,105.59 BTC)
Feb 22 16:05:49 <Bugpowder>	can we bid this shit back up to .0007 please
Feb 22 16:06:04 <thestringpuller>	it will soon
Feb 22 16:06:11 <thestringpuller>	after divs
Feb 22 16:06:17 <Bugpowder>	that makes sens
Feb 22 16:06:22 <Bugpowder>	ok
Feb 22 16:06:27 <Bugpowder>	gotta go get ripped.
Feb 22 16:06:51 <Bugpowder>	no crashing the market while I'm gone.
Feb 22 16:06:56 <Namworld>	We should have the profit statement released soon
Feb 22 16:07:03 <Namworld>	Bugpowder, no worries
Feb 22 16:07:05 <Bugpowder>	well after opex
Feb 22 16:07:16 <Namworld>	We'll just dump 5 million BTC on the market
Feb 22 16:07:25 <Bugpowder>	unless you are REALLY gonna crash it
Feb 22 16:07:29 <Bugpowder>	I'm cool with that too
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Feb 22 16:10:05 <Bowjob>	lemme cash out before you dump it lol
Feb 22 16:10:36 <Namworld>	You'll cash out at 1 USD/BTC like everyone else while I buy...
Feb 22 16:11:40 <mod6>	same
Feb 22 16:11:50 <thestringpuller>	mod6
Feb 22 16:12:09 <mod6>	thestringpuller:
Feb 22 16:12:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 148 @ 0.008 = 1.184 BTC [-]
Feb 22 16:12:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00784 BTC [-]
Feb 22 16:12:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00351 BTC [-]
Feb 22 16:12:57 <Bowjob>	cashing out at 50 bucks, buying back at 2 dollars :3
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Feb 22 16:13:42 <Bowjob>	whatever happened to erik ?
Feb 22 16:13:51 <mod6>	the bike man?
Feb 22 16:16:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070N] 1000 @ 0.95853928 = 958.5393 BTC [+]
Feb 22 16:16:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C050N] 1000 @ 0.99946531 = 999.4653 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 16:16:44 <ThickAsThieves>	someone said he's been in meetings all week
Feb 22 16:17:02 <ThickAsThieves>	assuming you mean evoor
Feb 22 16:17:08 <Bowjob>	maybe hes selling to a big player
Feb 22 16:17:36 <Namworld>	Who buys calls at 0.99946531?
Feb 22 16:17:36 <gigavps>	or talking to the feds
Feb 22 16:17:49 <Namworld>	That's almost impossible to be worth more than that...
Feb 22 16:23:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00608 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 16:25:47 <jurov>	i'd like someone to sell me C750N
Feb 22 16:25:55 <jurov>	but tomorrow
Feb 22 16:26:18 <jurov>	or at least C500N
Feb 22 16:26:59 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice profit = 1998BTC the day
Feb 22 16:27:05 <jurov>	or C1000N lol
Feb 22 16:27:14 <maximian>	awesome
Feb 22 16:27:25 <ThickAsThieves>	*for the day
Feb 22 16:27:29 <maximian>	12000+ BTC for the month
Feb 22 16:27:54 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 22 16:27:57 <maximian>	* price sinks *
Feb 22 16:27:58 <Bowjob>	nb i guess
Feb 22 16:28:15 <Bowjob>	slow month for dice
Feb 22 16:28:18 <maximian>	it's great
Feb 22 16:28:27 <maximian>	nah, everyone got spoiled by the whale
Feb 22 16:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	jurov well you're gonna be able to buy from teh bot.
Feb 22 16:28:46 <Bowjob>	how much of that 12k is from the whale
Feb 22 16:29:32 <jurov>	mircea_popescu iirc when new options up to 35 were created, there was no offer for a long time there
Feb 22 16:29:35 <maximian>	not sure
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Feb 22 16:29:54 <mircea_popescu>	jurov no ?
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Feb 22 16:30:09 <jurov>	but i may remember wrongly.
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Feb 22 16:30:25 <mircea_popescu>	they were created the 24th and were on offer normally after the 25th of last month
Feb 22 16:30:26 <Bowjob>	ah 2k profit
Feb 22 16:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	currently we're scratching heads over a VERY FUCKING WEIRD THING.
Feb 22 16:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	look at how the bot values far calls.
Feb 22 16:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	O.BTCUSD.C590N	0.02835972
Feb 22 16:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	O.BTCUSD.C590N	0.02835972
Feb 22 16:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	O.BTCUSD.C630N	0.00015275
Feb 22 16:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	O.BTCUSD.C730N	0.00020444
Feb 22 16:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	i mean da fuck ?!
Feb 22 16:32:23 <jurov>	looks like it misparsed the strike
Feb 22 16:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	c730 are worth like 30% more than c630 ? srsly ?
Feb 22 16:32:37 <jurov>	dunno
Feb 22 16:34:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064114 = 2.7704 BTC [-]
Feb 22 16:34:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3729 @ 0.00064096 = 2.3901 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 16:42:17 <ThickAsThieves>	iphone facebook app allows free calls now
Feb 22 16:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 361 @ 0.00064369 = 0.2324 BTC [+]
Feb 22 16:43:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064385 = 2.7821 BTC [+]
Feb 22 16:43:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064386 = 7.34 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 16:50:37 <mod6>	I re-read the The Ceausescu article.  I forgot that I already read it before, but it was a good review.
Feb 22 16:50:48 <mod6>	That Judge was something else though, you're right.
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Feb 22 17:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	does it get through gt at all ?
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Feb 22 17:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 315 @ 0.006 = 1.89 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:13:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 765 @ 0.00609 = 4.6589 BTC [+]
Feb 22 17:15:17 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what is the eta for mpoe financials?
Feb 22 17:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	well the month has to close first
Feb 22 17:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	that's a coupla hours away.
Feb 22 17:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	then i gotta write it. so probably later tonight.
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Feb 22 17:19:03 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Hey man!
Feb 22 17:19:13 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu:  I noticed that mispricing last month too
Feb 22 17:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	heya.
Feb 22 17:19:18 <Bugpowder>	it was less obvious though
Feb 22 17:19:30 <Bugpowder>	I figured you have some long tail fudge factor that blows up
Feb 22 17:19:42 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder not rly.
Feb 22 17:22:03 <jurov>	but the emergency retcon 2 months ago was so much fun :)
Feb 22 17:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	the who ?
Feb 22 17:23:13 <jurov>	or when it was.. you issued bogus s.mpoe dividend
Feb 22 17:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Feb 22 17:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	ya lol
Feb 22 17:23:21 <jurov>	then had to stop the world
Feb 22 17:23:21 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: does the mpoe bot actually perform a spilt to fund the positions, or does it dynamically value the exposure?
Feb 22 17:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder that's not specified.
Feb 22 17:24:28 <thestringpuller>	when will the
Feb 22 17:24:37 <thestringpuller>	february financials be up?
Feb 22 17:24:51 <jurov>	thestringpuller aome time after midnight UTC
Feb 22 17:25:05 <jurov>	on midnight the month closes
Feb 22 17:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	didn't someone ask me this like 15 minutes ago ?
Feb 22 17:25:25 <mircea_popescu>	wait. you just asked this. wtf's your hurry man ?
Feb 22 17:25:26 <jurov>	where is the pic woth the waiting cats
Feb 22 17:25:31 <jurov>	*with
Feb 22 17:26:07 <jurov>	http://www.catsncats.com/galleries/street-cats-waiting-for-fishers.gif
Feb 22 17:27:30 <jborkl>	mircea_popescu,  the new key will not work until the 10th, correct?
Feb 22 17:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl yes.
Feb 22 17:27:54 <jborkl>	Thank you
Feb 22 17:28:27 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl i dunno if you were here, but jurov announced the pympex fork is updated and will failover by itelf earlier.
Feb 22 17:28:48 <jurov>	https://github.com/jurov/pyMPEx
Feb 22 17:28:50 <jborkl>	oh, no I didn't see that- thanks
Feb 22 17:29:39 <thestringpuller>	i didnt know i already asked mircea_popescu
Feb 22 17:29:52 <thestringpuller>	i am at work on a phone hard to see things
Feb 22 17:30:09 <jurov>	other people asked... and usagi on btctalk, too
Feb 22 17:30:31 <jurov>	oh yes, phonesex... hard to concentrate
Feb 22 17:31:44 <kakobrekla>	https://intersango.com/
Feb 22 17:31:46 <kakobrekla>	lol wtf
Feb 22 17:31:51 <kakobrekla>	idiots.
Feb 22 17:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://jpkoning.blogspot.ro/2013/02/financial-deepening-and-currency.html
Feb 22 17:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	^ bitcoin is gaining attention of economist ppl.
Feb 22 17:32:35 <kakobrekla>	>Disclaimer: I am long SatoshiDice and several bitcoin mining stocks.
Feb 22 17:32:37 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Feb 22 17:33:07 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Feb 22 17:33:08 <Bugpowder>	Yeah
Feb 22 17:33:23 <Bugpowder>	but we need someone like usagi to be a buyer of last resort for S.DICE
Feb 22 17:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol that's so funny, "team intersango"
Feb 22 17:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	it's like...
Feb 22 17:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	if there WERE a team they wouldn't need this would they
Feb 22 17:33:50 <kakobrekla>	team inter-scam-go
Feb 22 17:34:09 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Feb 22 17:34:15 <Bugpowder>	That is a remarkable message
Feb 22 17:34:25 <Bugpowder>	I have never seen something less professional
Feb 22 17:34:27 <kakobrekla>	hey im going to take a crap
Feb 22 17:34:32 <kakobrekla>	so im gonna take assbot down
Feb 22 17:34:36 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder at least it has css and no numbers.
Feb 22 17:34:36 <kakobrekla>	brb 20min
Feb 22 17:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	lmao take a crap, assbot, this is too funny
Feb 22 17:35:47 <jurov>	my fantasies with assbot just got unwanted inspiration
Feb 22 17:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	hey mircea_popescu, when are the mpoe financials published ?
Feb 22 17:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	omfg!!1
Feb 22 17:38:03 <jurov>	assbot does caviar?
Feb 22 17:38:09 <jurov>	must.stop.thinking.
Feb 22 17:42:12 <mjr__>	;;ticker
Feb 22 17:42:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.16700, Best ask: 30.31000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14300, Last trade: 30.31000, 24 hour volume: 66824.74035661, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.43564
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Feb 22 17:44:05 <Bugpowder>	ouch
Feb 22 17:44:18 <Bugpowder>	this is the high
Feb 22 17:44:22 <Bugpowder>	CALLING IT
Feb 22 17:44:26 <Bugpowder>	LOAD UP ON PUTS NOW
Feb 22 17:44:39 <Bugpowder>	actually.... wait a little bit longer to confirm
Feb 22 17:44:42 <Bugpowder>	5 minutes
Feb 22 17:44:49 <mod6>	go for it
Feb 22 17:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol wup
Feb 22 17:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	wut
Feb 22 17:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	i just added options lol.
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Feb 22 17:45:32 <Bugpowder>	the 310N buy is mispriced
Feb 22 17:46:00 <mod6>	C or P?
Feb 22 17:46:06 <mod6>	oh buy
Feb 22 17:46:11 <Bugpowder>	scanning for a mispriced option that I can exploit....
Feb 22 17:47:04 <mod6>	well theta really changes things near options expiration right?
Feb 22 17:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder ya but it's mispriced as in being too low.
Feb 22 17:47:48 <Bugpowder>	yes I know
Feb 22 17:47:50 <Bugpowder>	:(
Feb 22 17:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, will sort itself presently.
Feb 22 17:48:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.00067 = 0.004 BTC [+]
Feb 22 17:49:12 <markedathome>	ummm... .https://intersango.com/  Due to unforeseen circumstances the systems administrator will not be available for three days.
Feb 22 17:49:12 <markedathome>	As a precaution Intersango will be inaccessible until Monday Feb 25th.
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Feb 22 17:51:48 <Bugpowder>	god damn it :  To which add sums deposited as surety for 4th Friday settled option and future contracts :  	1.00000000 BTC for 1	O.BTCUSD.C750N contracts. 	1.00000000 BTC for 0	O.BTCUSD.P750N contracts.
Feb 22 17:52:02 <Bugpowder>	split 2 BTC
Feb 22 17:52:52 <mircea_popescu>	what did you expect ?!
Feb 22 17:53:18 <Bugpowder>	i fergot
Feb 22 17:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2618 @ 0.00064396 = 1.6859 BTC [+]
Feb 22 17:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064129 = 2.771 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23471 @ 0.00064096 = 15.044 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	it's only like 1/5000 of a pizza anyway
Feb 22 17:53:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00063925 = 3.1323 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:53:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063917 = 3.1959 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:53:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5489 @ 0.00063916 = 3.5083 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063914 = 10.2262 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:53:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2799 @ 0.00063913 = 1.7889 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:53:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00063902 = 6.3263 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:53:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20902 @ 0.00063625 = 13.2989 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:54:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750N] 1 @ 1.51629088 BTC
Feb 22 17:55:35 <Bugpowder>	ok... this is getting silly.  Playing around with 1BTC stuff then you realize like, hey, I could buy a nice dinner with that.
Feb 22 17:56:34 <kakobrekla>	yup
Feb 22 17:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1498 @ 0.00063625 = 0.9531 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:56:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063489 = 2.7434 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:56:45 <kakobrekla>	thats why bit4x is switching to dBTC ;)
Feb 22 17:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00063488 = 3.9045 BTC [-]
Feb 22 17:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8431 @ 0.00063422 = 5.3471 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 17:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	i am looking forward to mpex options passthroughs.
Feb 22 17:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	split 1:1000 or w/e
Feb 22 17:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like people make gold etfs atm based on one ounce bar
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Feb 22 17:59:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064392 = 2.7824 BTC [+]
Feb 22 17:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00064409 = 19.4837 BTC [+]
Feb 22 17:59:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10725 @ 0.00064629 = 6.9315 BTC [+]
Feb 22 17:59:44 <Bugpowder>	just use coinbr
Feb 22 17:59:50 <Bugpowder>	coinbr has options right?
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Feb 22 18:03:14 <thestringpuller>	yea
Feb 22 18:03:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: option passthrus for selling options?
Feb 22 18:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Feb 22 18:03:58 <thestringpuller>	you can only do mkopt on mpex
Feb 22 18:05:35 <jurov>	like, the passthrough will raise funds and do mkopt on mpex, for 1 option?
Feb 22 18:06:13 *	jurov waits for Deprived to arrive with this idea
Feb 22 18:06:37 <thestringpuller>	jurov do it
Feb 22 18:06:44 <thestringpuller>	make a joe bot
Feb 22 18:07:12 <jurov>	actually i do have an user who asked me to split 2 BTC.. now i 'm gonna to watch carefully what happens with the collateral and everything
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Feb 22 18:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yes, buys one option worth 1 btc, sells 1000 shares in it or w/e
Feb 22 18:08:20 <jurov>	plus multiple users autoexercise, hope i got it right
Feb 22 18:09:21 <jurov>	lol i was just arguing for switching to uBTC in -otc, i can put it to good use here
Feb 22 18:09:38 <jurov>	!ticker mpex s.mpoe
Feb 22 18:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063035 / 0.00063869 / 0.00064629 (1248634 shares, 797.50 BTC), 7D: 0.000622 / 0.00064897 / 0.00068894 (10558696 shares, 6,852.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00059613 / 0.00066484 / 0.0007 (72433406 shares, 48,157.29 BTC)
Feb 22 18:10:12 <jurov>	one S.MPOE for 630.35 uBTC, doesn't it look nice?
Feb 22 18:10:26 <jurov>	two decimal places, no unwieldy zeroes
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Feb 22 18:14:20 <jurov>	besides, one has to convince me that passthroughs are profitable enough.. i just don't see how 5% of dividends is worth it
Feb 22 18:14:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064599 = 2.7913 BTC [-]
Feb 22 18:14:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1829 @ 0.00064629 = 1.1821 BTC [+]
Feb 22 18:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1 @ 0.00196489 BTC [-]
Feb 22 18:15:13 <jurov>	let somebody other do the dirty work, i'm completely content with 0.5% off every transaction
Feb 22 18:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	jurov they're profitable for sure.
Feb 22 18:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	read up where topace bought 5k on mpex for 60ish, sold 5k on havelock for 68ish.
Feb 22 18:18:06 <jurov>	okay, but price may as well move against him and he may end up doing other trade with a loss
Feb 22 18:19:48 <jurov>	i'm actually trying something like on deadterra's bitfunder stuff to get the feel of things... still not convinced
Feb 22 18:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	well obviously.
Feb 22 18:21:15 <BingoBongo>	Hands on the wheel drivin' drunk I'm doing my thing; Screaming out fuck that
Feb 22 18:21:40 <BingoBongo>	It is nearly always worth it for the passthrough operator
Feb 22 18:25:38 <jurov>	hm, "nearly always"... topace is the only one so far who succeeded in selling significant part of underlying asset, like million od s.dice
Feb 22 18:26:07 <jurov>	coinbr users got quite a chunk of it, and bbet too
Feb 22 18:26:13 <jurov>	but anyone other?
Feb 22 18:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	1mn is like what, 6k or so ?
Feb 22 18:26:38 <mod6>	not yet
Feb 22 18:29:08 <ThickAsThieves>	deadterra has 1mil sdice on bf
Feb 22 18:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00580004 = 1.74 BTC [-]
Feb 22 18:29:44 <jurov>	!ticker havelosk sdice
Feb 22 18:29:44 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Feb 22 18:29:47 <jurov>	!ticker havelock sdice
Feb 22 18:29:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.62151000 / 0.66050068 / 0.69000000 (132 shares, 87.18609015 BTC), 7D: 0.62151000 / 0.69016063 / 0.75100000 (1262 shares, 870.98271197 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.66366199 / 0.89000000 (11204 shares, 7435.66888393 BTC)
Feb 22 18:29:59 <thestringpuller>	BingoBongo: you quotin schoolboy q and asap rocky?
Feb 22 18:30:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00580003 = 5.8 BTC [-]
Feb 22 18:30:08 <ThickAsThieves>	cudi
Feb 22 18:30:21 <thestringpuller>	go kill yourselves
Feb 22 18:30:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 942 @ 0.00577565 = 5.4407 BTC [-]
Feb 22 18:30:23 <thestringpuller>	jk
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Feb 22 18:30:44 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 22 18:30:47 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222611 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1164 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 18 hours, 25 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4377231.32576 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.89092
Feb 22 18:31:01 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,tslb
Feb 22 18:31:02 <gribble>	Time since last block: 16 minutes and 42 seconds
Feb 22 18:31:06 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 22 18:31:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.53483, Best ask: 30.64998, Bid-ask spread: 0.11515, Last trade: 30.53483, 24 hour volume: 68196.18755830, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.43770
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Feb 22 18:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 22 18:33:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.54002, Best ask: 30.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10998, Last trade: 30.54002, 24 hour volume: 68235.20606724, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.43808
Feb 22 18:34:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-]
Feb 22 18:35:48 <kakobrekla>	has smickles been found
Feb 22 18:35:49 <kakobrekla>	?
Feb 22 18:35:58 <kakobrekla>	ah hes here.
Feb 22 18:36:14 <kakobrekla>	but idle
Feb 22 18:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	smickles' been fondled.
Feb 22 18:36:26 <kakobrekla>	hrm
Feb 22 18:36:34 <kakobrekla>	bua.
Feb 22 18:36:43 <mod6>	i might have to go to t-town to buy him a beer.  he's probably doing the whole new-dad thing.
Feb 22 18:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063433 = 3.1717 BTC [-]
Feb 22 18:36:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063432 = 2.7409 BTC [-]
Feb 22 18:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6590 @ 0.00063424 = 4.1796 BTC [-]
Feb 22 18:37:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7089 @ 0.00063423 = 4.4961 BTC [-]
Feb 22 18:38:31 <mod6>	haha, funny enough they just got snow yesterday.  doesn't usually happen in the valley. when I lived there we got 3" once. caused HAVOC in the am.
Feb 22 18:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 o, i thought new dad wasn't till april
Feb 22 18:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00609 = 0.0609 BTC [+]
Feb 22 18:44:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064619 = 2.7922 BTC [+]
Feb 22 18:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1229 @ 0.00064628 = 0.7943 BTC [+]
Feb 22 18:48:26 <BingoBongo>	S, S.BBET overtakes S.DICE sometime in Q4 2013?
Feb 22 18:49:02 <BingoBongo>	*So
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Feb 22 18:54:36 <mircea_popescu>	you think ?
Feb 22 18:55:12 <mjr__>	you should make that a bbet
Feb 22 18:55:23 <kakobrekla>	there is.
Feb 22 18:55:27 <mjr__>	ah ok
Feb 22 18:55:29 <mjr__>	cool
Feb 22 18:55:37 <BingoBongo>	Probably, betting on events seems so much more attractive for the desperate enbough to have patience
Feb 22 18:55:49 <BingoBongo>	What's the link on the bet?
Feb 22 18:56:02 <mjr__>	those who have patience...or less than 1% of the populatoin
Feb 22 18:56:09 <kakobrekla>	type bbet in the searchbar
Feb 22 18:56:12 <kakobrekla>	there are two
Feb 22 18:56:22 <mjr__>	i think they are definitely more interesting
Feb 22 18:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	i just put bitbet in the search bar, as kakobrekla said. http://www.google.com/search?q=bbet&complete=0
Feb 22 18:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	Bloed, Bodem, Eer en Trouw (BBET; "Blood, Soil, Honour and Loyalty") is a Flemish neo-Nazi group
Feb 22 18:57:30 <kakobrekla>	FU troll
Feb 22 18:57:38 <BingoBongo>	Bet made
Feb 22 18:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't even know flemishness is large enough to have subgroups.
Feb 22 18:58:06 <mjr__>	lol
Feb 22 18:58:10 <kakobrekla>	also
Feb 22 18:58:10 <kakobrekla>	Bloed, Bodem, Eer en Trouw (BBET; "Blood, Soil, Honour and Loyalty") is a Flemish neo-Nazi group, created in 2004 from a splinter of the Flemish branch of the international Nazi skinhead organization Blood & Honour.
Feb 22 18:58:17 <kakobrekla>	first SS now BBET
Feb 22 18:58:17 <mod6>	(15:40) < mircea_popescu> mod6 o, i thought new dad wasn't till april << ooh maybe you're right.
Feb 22 18:58:21 <kakobrekla>	NWO i tell you
Feb 22 18:59:32 <mod6>	maybe he's got a huge list of honey-do's
Feb 22 18:59:37 <mod6>	heheh
Feb 22 19:00:09 <mjr__>	btw, cool new options mircea
Feb 22 19:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	yee
Feb 22 19:01:32 <coingenuity>	ya, never thought i could get it with leather seats mircea_popescu
Feb 22 19:01:34 <coingenuity>	:D
Feb 22 19:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	uh wha ?!
Feb 22 19:04:19 <coingenuity>	car upgrades are called options here
Feb 22 19:04:29 <coingenuity>	i guess it was too much of a stretch for a global-compatable joke
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Feb 22 19:06:44 <lyspooner>	mircea_popescu link to your feb report?
Feb 22 19:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	x.x
Feb 22 19:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	you literally can't be serious. it's been five minutes!
Feb 22 19:07:08 <lyspooner>	i can't click those x's
Feb 22 19:07:27 <lyspooner>	i'm boarding my jet now
Feb 22 19:07:52 <lyspooner>	i don't like when you say the word literally
Feb 22 19:07:55 <lyspooner>	i told you that
Feb 22 19:08:13 <mircea_popescu>	no internet on jet ?
Feb 22 19:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a crummy model.
Feb 22 19:11:17 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, was i supposed to get data in "Exercises" statjson output when I held C200T ?
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Feb 22 19:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 22 19:13:08 <jurov>	i got nothing
Feb 22 19:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	aite, looking into it.
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Feb 22 19:14:49 <jurov>	account D0AEE7D7... and other account too
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Feb 22 19:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	jurov look now ?
Feb 22 19:20:04 <jurov>	yes it's there
Feb 22 19:23:35 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 22 19:23:36 <gribble>	30.46
Feb 22 19:24:38 <jurov>	;;calc (30.46-20)/30.46
Feb 22 19:24:39 <gribble>	0.343401181878
Feb 22 19:27:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-february-2013-statement/
Feb 22 19:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	there it is.
Feb 22 19:27:53 <mircea_popescu>	green month, interest 4.8
Feb 22 19:29:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063768 = 2.7554 BTC [-]
Feb 22 19:29:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063746 = 2.7545 BTC [-]
Feb 22 19:29:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00063741 = 6.1829 BTC [-]
Feb 22 19:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00063741 = 6.1829 BTC [-]
Feb 22 19:29:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7040 @ 0.00063656 = 4.4814 BTC [-]
Feb 22 19:29:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2718 @ 0.00063423 = 1.7238 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 19:40:29 <ThickAsThieves>	to make sure I understand how divs are dist for mpoe, what does the div per share come out to? .000000979?
Feb 22 19:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1714 @ 0.00063425 = 1.0871 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 19:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 979.88886371 / 1000000000
Feb 22 19:46:00 <gribble>	9.7988886371e-07
Feb 22 19:46:11 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Feb 22 19:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  9.7988886371e-07/0.00063423
Feb 22 19:46:48 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Feb 22 19:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	your own syntax nooblet.
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Feb 22 19:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  0.000000979/0.00063423
Feb 22 19:47:09 <gribble>	0.00154360405531
Feb 22 19:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	seems about right.
Feb 22 19:47:56 <Bugpowder>	979 was total profit?
Feb 22 19:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Feb 22 19:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-february-2013-statement/
Feb 22 19:52:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063994 = 2.7652 BTC [+]
Feb 22 19:52:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7679 @ 0.00063995 = 4.9142 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 19:52:49 <Bugpowder>	That's about what I expected
Feb 22 19:53:10 <Bugpowder>	Based on watching the entry and exit points
Feb 22 19:54:07 <Bugpowder>	Pretty amazing mpoe didn't get fcking killed this month. You would have expected more calls being bought during the run up
Feb 22 19:54:29 <thestringpuller>	YUS!
Feb 22 19:54:33 <thestringpuller>	bot wins again
Feb 22 19:54:45 <Bugpowder>	I know I got spooked out of some large  call positions
Feb 22 19:54:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder indeed.
Feb 22 19:54:52 <thestringpuller>	mpoe bot is finally fully profitable
Feb 22 19:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	i think many people were expecting a massacre.
Feb 22 19:55:42 <jurov>	interesting, why everyone went with 4.8%? just cause i announced it for MPBPT?
Feb 22 19:56:16 <thestringpuller>	what was total volume of mpbpt
Feb 22 19:56:33 <jurov>	only 100 btc, 22 of those mine
Feb 22 19:56:33 <thestringpuller>	since no bot info for bf
Feb 22 19:56:49 <jurov>	it's lol
Feb 22 19:56:52 <thestringpuller>	good use of btc for yourself jurov ;)
Feb 22 19:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2607 @ 0.00063425 = 1.6535 BTC [-]
Feb 22 19:58:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 193 @ 0.00063423 = 0.1224 BTC [-]
Feb 22 19:58:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3774 @ 0.00063422 = 2.3935 BTC [-]
Feb 22 19:58:46 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 22 19:58:49 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222617 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1158 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 17 hours, 34 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4350127.9943 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.14857
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Feb 22 20:00:00 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 19.14857 * 4350127
Feb 22 20:00:00 <gribble>	83298711.3684
Feb 22 20:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063457 = 2.742 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9579 @ 0.00063422 = 6.0752 BTC [-]
Feb 22 20:10:57 <jurov>	ufff,coinbr autoexercises seems settled... now about the collateral
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Feb 22 20:15:30 <mircea_popescu>	ok, finally.
Feb 22 20:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	part of mpoe bot's brain was hanging up on the volatility history of btc.
Feb 22 20:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	problem fixed, all better, quotes make sense again.
Feb 22 20:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	halelujah
Feb 22 20:20:22 <thestringpuller>	so mpoe bot is reveiving updates?
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Feb 22 20:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Feb 22 20:25:20 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 20:25:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2921 @ 0.00063995 = 1.8693 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:25:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.25322, Best ask: 30.45399, Bid-ask spread: 0.20077, Last trade: 30.25322, 24 hour volume: 68466.44039887, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.46492
Feb 22 20:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064263 = 2.7768 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13836 @ 0.00064264 = 8.8916 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00064482 = 22.2463 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:25:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3771 @ 0.00064628 = 2.4371 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41146 @ 0.00064629 = 26.5922 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 20:26:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00064722 = 2.4918 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00064778 = 13.992 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00064824 = 4.2136 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18562 @ 0.00064892 = 12.0453 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00064961 = 7.6654 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00065077 = 11.3885 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11190 @ 0.00065097 = 7.2844 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00065112 = 2.8649 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19730 @ 0.00065233 = 12.8705 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00065361 = 2.9086 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00065438 = 2.1595 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65900 @ 0.00065583 = 43.2192 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065624 = 6.5624 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:26:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00065883 = 11.7931 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17135 @ 0.00065902 = 11.2923 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	heh. i guess people really were worried.
Feb 22 20:28:06 <Bowjob>	damn
Feb 22 20:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news : somebody made a mpex sh : https://github.com/gabridome/mpex-sh
Feb 22 20:28:22 <Bowjob>	someone do the same for dice pweese
Feb 22 20:28:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00572194 = 2.0027 BTC [-]
Feb 22 20:28:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65688 @ 0.00066 = 43.3541 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:29:00 <Bowjob>	not that way lol
Feb 22 20:29:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 10 @ 0.28103279 = 2.8103 BTC
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Feb 22 20:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ it's fixed btw. it was choking on vol data.
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Feb 22 20:33:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 23 @ 0.006 = 0.138 BTC [-]
Feb 22 20:34:40 <Bugpowder_>	ya
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Feb 22 20:37:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065995 = 2.8516 BTC [-]
Feb 22 20:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3279 @ 0.00066013 = 2.1646 BTC [+]
Feb 22 20:37:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310N] 15 @ 0.42134962 = 6.3202 BTC
Feb 22 20:38:14 <jurov>	C750Ns have break even point near 100.. i'm not so bullish :D
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Feb 22 20:38:28 <mircea_popescu>	so go in the midmarket
Feb 22 20:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	maybe someone fills.
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Feb 22 20:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	think of it as 0.00000002 current bid 0.17214117 buyout.
Feb 22 20:45:04 <jurov>	um... but looks like whoever thinks of going long and does similar maths like me
Feb 22 20:45:26 <jurov>	ends up with decision to buy lowest call available
Feb 22 20:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	m ?
Feb 22 20:46:10 <jurov>	the higher ones seem to have no advantage at all, even considering their bit lower price
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Feb 22 20:48:19 <BitcoinG>	bitcoin price crashing
Feb 22 20:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i don't follow that logic.
Feb 22 20:48:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 22 20:49:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.12341, Best ask: 30.19250, Bid-ask spread: 0.06909, Last trade: 30.19250, 24 hour volume: 67029.45874648, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.47874
Feb 22 20:49:09 <Bowjob>	nah
Feb 22 20:49:58 <Bowjob>	we just need 50k USD to reach 31 dollars
Feb 22 20:50:21 <jurov>	simple - if i went into midmarket fo calls, what reason anyone may have to buy my C750s, when C310s looks overall more profitable?
Feb 22 20:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you were trying to buy them, so they'd be selling
Feb 22 20:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	or ?
Feb 22 20:51:57 <jurov>	yes i am buying some calls
Feb 22 20:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	right. if we're talking the C750, you can buy one right now for 0.17, but the current highest bid on it is 2 satoshi.
Feb 22 20:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone were to sell one, you might get it should you bid more than 2 satoshi.
Feb 22 20:53:46 <jurov>	oh i understand now
Feb 22 20:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	now, it may be the case some other option is better priced, sure
Feb 22 20:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	but it all depends on how much this actually ends up trading for.
Feb 22 20:56:30 <maximian>	that she blows
Feb 22 20:56:33 <maximian>	thar
Feb 22 20:56:34 <jurov>	hm, so someone might see my bid and decide to mkopt and sell the calls
Feb 22 20:56:48 <jurov>	yes that could work, then
Feb 22 20:57:24 <Namworld>	question, is it possible to see dividend per share?
Feb 22 20:57:31 <jurov>	sadly, bears were shot :)
Feb 22 20:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	kinda the point of even having the books in the first place.
Feb 22 20:57:35 <Namworld>	Seems like it just shows total on MPEx
Feb 22 20:57:51 <Namworld>	and doesn't show the current outstanding paid to.
Feb 22 20:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	maximian what blows ?
Feb 22 20:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld hm ?
Feb 22 20:58:18 <maximian>	ah, just the price dipped below 30
Feb 22 20:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, the uk just got its credit slashed.
Feb 22 20:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 22 20:58:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.99001, Best ask: 29.99360, Bid-ask spread: 0.00359, Last trade: 29.99360, 24 hour volume: 66167.24997894, 24 hour low: 29.84413, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.48630
Feb 22 20:58:28 <jurov>	Namworld, you have to find the float in the text and do the maths
Feb 22 20:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Feb 22 20:58:46 <Namworld>	Eh...
Feb 22 20:58:49 <jurov>	and there is no such thing as "price per share"
Feb 22 20:59:09 <jurov>	you'll end up with significant rounding error
Feb 22 20:59:25 <jurov>	if you started with price per share in satoshis
Feb 22 20:59:29 <Namworld>	yeah...
Feb 22 21:00:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00574098 = 8.8985 BTC [+]
Feb 22 21:00:58 <Namworld>	I was planning using MPOE results/SD results statement to get the dividend info. Just not going to get rounded numbers tho.
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Feb 22 21:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld : Total shares : 1`000`000`000. Total dividend : 979.88886371 BTC.
Feb 22 21:01:44 <jurov>	you can't use statjson output?
Feb 22 21:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	it's all there neh ?
Feb 22 21:01:45 <Namworld>	0.00000097988886371 per S.MPOE this month
Feb 22 21:01:50 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 22 21:02:17 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, but the dividend there applies to float, not to all shares, no?
Feb 22 21:02:21 <Namworld>	So it multiplies that by amount of S.MPOE you have, and then what? Round it?
Feb 22 21:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	jurov float = all shares!
Feb 22 21:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld to the nearest satoshi
Feb 22 21:03:18 <Namworld>	aye
Feb 22 21:04:12 <Namworld>	I won't be able to do that since some people have just 1 share on my passthroughs
Feb 22 21:04:41 <Namworld>	Guess I'll round it to 0.00000098 per share
Feb 22 21:05:03 <Namworld>	I'll pay it right away
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Feb 22 21:08:54 <jurov>	 Bugpowder, you went to gym and btc went crashing
Feb 22 21:09:02 <jurov>	you did it again
Feb 22 21:10:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00065717 = 2.7273 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 21:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171 @ 0.00065717 = 0.1124 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:13:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4774 @ 0.00065695 = 3.1363 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:14:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 21:14:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.70000, Best ask: 29.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 29.89000, 24 hour volume: 66974.83869919, 24 hour low: 29.68700, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.47468
Feb 22 21:14:19 <Bowjob>	uh oh
Feb 22 21:14:36 <Namworld>	So a nice 94 sathoshi per share I'll be giving out.
Feb 22 21:15:19 <Namworld>	hmm...
Feb 22 21:15:24 <Namworld>	Seems off
Feb 22 21:15:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3789 @ 0.00065695 = 2.4892 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:16:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6537 @ 0.00065695 = 4.2945 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2445 @ 0.00065201 = 1.5942 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:16:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2748 @ 0.00064255 = 1.7657 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:18:16 <Namworld>	But it's not
Feb 22 21:18:57 <Namworld>	Damn
Feb 22 21:19:07 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 21:19:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.66003, Best ask: 29.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03997, Last trade: 29.70000, 24 hour volume: 62456.87645939, 24 hour low: 29.66000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.50573
Feb 22 21:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170 @ 0.00063694 = 0.1083 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:19:15 <Namworld>	Would take 600 months to break even at that pace O.o
Feb 22 21:19:22 <Bowjob>	I cant bear to watch..
Feb 22 21:19:31 <Namworld>	Or 50 years...
Feb 22 21:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol this breakeven nonsense.
Feb 22 21:20:19 <Namworld>	The pace at which profits come in matters
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Feb 22 21:20:33 <mircea_popescu>	looky, this isn't how stocks work, "break even from dividends".
Feb 22 21:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	it's so nonsensical as to leave no room for words.
Feb 22 21:20:59 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Feb 22 21:21:51 <Namworld>	The breakeven doesn't necessarily matter, but the % matter
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Feb 22 21:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. about what a normal corp does, give or take.
Feb 22 21:23:47 <Namworld>	aye
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Feb 22 21:23:57 <Namworld>	like 2% per year
Feb 22 21:24:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.35 = 3.85 BTC [+]
Feb 22 21:24:49 <Namworld>	Normally you also want enough price share value increase to beat inflation... tho... since this is BTC.
Feb 22 21:25:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11730 @ 0.00065548 = 7.6888 BTC [+]
Feb 22 21:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00063609 = 5.4704 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:25:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1416 @ 0.00063422 = 0.8981 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2384 @ 0.00063298 = 1.509 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:26:47 <mircea_popescu>	in fairness the entire "break even" stuff probably comes from the very fly-by-night nature of many btc businesses.
Feb 22 21:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	if stuff is just going to dissapear one day a la gblse then you want to know how long you need.
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Feb 22 21:30:56 <Namworld>	Actually I think it's more due to the deflationary nature of Bitcoin. Once you get back your investment amount, you win no matter what. Compared to inflationary currencies where you need to breakeven AND beat inflation.
Feb 22 21:31:29 <Namworld>	In BTC, reaching breakeven point is more interesting as you got all initial BTC back and still have assets.
Feb 22 21:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	that's a point.
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Feb 22 21:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	i guess from a psychological pov this "breakeven" is a lot more appealing here.
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Feb 22 21:35:52 <Bugpowder>	Time 4 puts
Feb 22 21:35:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 25 @ 0.07595 = 1.8988 BTC [+]
Feb 22 21:36:05 <Bugpowder>	Yay!
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Feb 22 21:41:35 <Namworld>	Don't forget to sleep with that & speakers @ full power: http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/
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Feb 22 21:46:14 <Namworld>	Is there other stuff in JSON format other than vwap?
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Feb 22 21:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064725 = 2.7968 BTC [+]
Feb 22 21:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9975 @ 0.00064727 = 6.4565 BTC [+]
Feb 22 21:53:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0056 = 0.028 BTC [-]
Feb 22 21:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#11
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Feb 22 21:58:22 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Feb 22 21:58:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.67445, Best ask: 29.89899, Bid-ask spread: 0.22454, Last trade: 29.91474, 24 hour volume: 60390.33320751, 24 hour low: 29.51001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.49060
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Feb 22 22:08:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33450 @ 0.00064727 = 21.6512 BTC [+]
Feb 22 22:15:04 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 22:15:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.71000, Best ask: 29.87182, Bid-ask spread: 0.16182, Last trade: 29.87187, 24 hour volume: 59467.92459786, 24 hour low: 29.51001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.49554
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Feb 22 22:23:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064374 = 2.7816 BTC [-]
Feb 22 22:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00064354 = 1.8528 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 22:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0060899 = 1.218 BTC [+]
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Feb 22 22:29:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006437 = 2.7814 BTC [+]
Feb 22 22:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 329 @ 0.00064354 = 0.2117 BTC [-]
Feb 22 22:29:15 <Bowjob>	Oh, its just the weekend dip
Feb 22 22:29:19 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 22:29:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.57640, Best ask: 29.78699, Bid-ask spread: 0.21059, Last trade: 29.78699, 24 hour volume: 62404.68197545, 24 hour low: 29.40000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.44704
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Feb 22 22:33:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P290T] 1000 @ 0.2535436 = 253.5436 BTC
Feb 22 22:34:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Feb 22 22:34:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.13112771 = 131.1277 BTC [+]
Feb 22 22:38:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006472 = 2.7966 BTC [+]
Feb 22 22:38:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8579 @ 0.00064727 = 5.5529 BTC [+]
Feb 22 22:38:30 <Bugpowder>	DIVE
Feb 22 22:39:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P270T] 1000 @ 0.20866429 = 208.6643 BTC
Feb 22 22:39:34 <dub>	tora tora tora
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Feb 22 22:52:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 22:52:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.52500, Best ask: 28.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02500, Last trade: 28.55000, 24 hour volume: 69282.32487470, 24 hour low: 28.50000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.29200
Feb 22 22:52:22 <Bowjob>	WOuch
Feb 22 22:53:48 <Bugpowder>	yeahhh
Feb 22 22:53:50 <Bugpowder>	puts
Feb 22 22:53:51 <Bugpowder>	time
Feb 22 22:53:58 <mod6>	;;bids 27
Feb 22 22:54:00 <gribble>	There are currently 18764.874 bitcoins demanded at or over 27.0 USD, worth 518424.477915 USD in total.
Feb 22 22:54:18 <Bugpowder>	its the weekend
Feb 22 22:54:19 <mod6>	;;bids 23
Feb 22 22:54:21 <gribble>	There are currently 49713.014 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.0 USD, worth 1299105.90195 USD in total.
Feb 22 22:54:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3079 BTC [+]
Feb 22 22:55:54 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 22:55:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.75000, Best ask: 28.88900, Bid-ask spread: 0.13900, Last trade: 28.75000, 24 hour volume: 69845.63623394, 24 hour low: 28.50000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.27773
Feb 22 22:55:58 <Bowjob>	tsk tsk
Feb 22 22:56:07 <mod6>	;;bids 28
Feb 22 22:56:09 <gribble>	There are currently 8077.8395 bitcoins demanded at or over 28.0 USD, worth 226780.134991 USD in total.
Feb 22 22:57:40 <Bugpowder>	tank tank tank
Feb 22 22:58:07 <mod6>	BTFD
Feb 22 22:58:08 <mod6>	lol
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Feb 22 23:01:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 22 23:01:15 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222639 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1136 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 10 hours, 54 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4348149.60774 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.09438
Feb 22 23:01:32 <Bowjob>	we have support at 28 BTC per according to chart
Feb 22 23:03:42 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 23:03:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.81000, Best ask: 28.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 28.90000, 24 hour volume: 70433.13541352, 24 hour low: 28.50000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.26478
Feb 22 23:03:44 <Bugpowder>	i bought puts we will probably bounce
Feb 22 23:03:55 <Bowjob>	I can't bear to watch!! :/
Feb 22 23:03:55 <Bugpowder>	though... it is the weekend.
Feb 22 23:03:55 <mod6>	here she comes
Feb 22 23:09:28 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 22 23:09:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.02760, Best ask: 29.45669, Bid-ask spread: 0.42909, Last trade: 28.81000, 24 hour volume: 71487.83150458, 24 hour low: 28.50000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.25031
Feb 22 23:09:32 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 22 23:09:35 <Bowjob>	Fuck that
Feb 22 23:10:00 <Bowjob>	I swear to Satoshi.. the marker is playing tricks on me
Feb 22 23:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064704 = 2.7959 BTC [-]
Feb 22 23:11:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6879 @ 0.00064727 = 4.4526 BTC [+]
Feb 22 23:12:59 <Bugpowder>	tank tank tank
Feb 22 23:13:00 <Bugpowder>	please
Feb 22 23:13:43 <Bowjob>	nO!
Feb 22 23:13:57 <Bowjob>	I forbid the market to tank
Feb 22 23:14:37 <Bowjob>	isnt options trading gambling?
Feb 22 23:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35700 @ 0.00064727 = 23.1075 BTC [+]
Feb 22 23:19:11 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 22 23:19:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063035 / 0.00064332 / 0.00066013 (1620421 shares, 1,042.45 BTC), 7D: 0.000622 / 0.00064857 / 0.00068894 (10946689 shares, 7,099.72 BTC), 30D: 0.00059613 / 0.00066506 / 0.0007 (72643562 shares, 48,312.69 BTC)
Feb 22 23:20:36 <Bugpowder>	nobody can fund accounts for the next 48 hours though
Feb 22 23:20:41 <Bugpowder>	a good time for a crash
Feb 22 23:20:46 <Bugpowder>	please
Feb 22 23:21:06 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Feb 22 23:22:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064366 = 2.7813 BTC [-]
Feb 22 23:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 329 @ 0.00064354 = 0.2117 BTC [-]
Feb 22 23:22:30 <Bugpowder>	here comes another dump
Feb 22 23:23:09 <jcpham>	<googlee> but there so exspensive right now at one time i was getting them for 25 a pop
Feb 22 23:23:13 <jcpham>	quote
Feb 22 23:24:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064361 = 2.781 BTC [+]
Feb 22 23:24:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3329 @ 0.00064354 = 2.1423 BTC [-]
Feb 22 23:27:03 <Bugpowder>	I actually have a lot of USD on gox right now
Feb 22 23:27:10 <Bugpowder>	but I don't want to support the price :-P
Feb 22 23:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1110 @ 0.00064354 = 0.7143 BTC [-]
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Feb 22 23:29:58 <Bugpowder>	28 is gonna be tough to break thru though
Feb 22 23:32:15 <Bugpowder>	The reddit sentiment index is turning bearish though
Feb 22 23:32:44 <Bugpowder>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/new/
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Feb 22 23:32:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064724 = 2.7967 BTC [+]
Feb 22 23:33:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12522 @ 0.00064727 = 8.1051 BTC [+]
Feb 22 23:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.13112771 = 131.1277 BTC [+] what srsly ?!
Feb 22 23:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064374 = 2.1243 BTC [-]
Feb 22 23:35:13 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 22 23:35:15 <Bugpowder>	twas me
Feb 22 23:35:27 <Bugpowder>	one of these times its gonna pay off
Feb 22 23:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	under 23 ?!
Feb 22 23:35:43 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 22 23:35:51 <Bugpowder>	it doesnt have to hit 23 to make money on it
Feb 22 23:35:59 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 22 23:36:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.50000, Best ask: 28.50009, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 28.50009, 24 hour volume: 73966.60498852, 24 hour low: 28.50000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.20182
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Feb 22 23:36:32 <Bugpowder>	the 23s might have been a bit excessive, admittedly
Feb 22 23:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Feb 22 23:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	wtf reddit sentiment index.
Feb 22 23:37:23 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 22 23:37:23 <jcpham>	reddit matters too
Feb 22 23:37:24 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 22 23:37:26 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 22 23:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	ya tiotally matters
Feb 22 23:37:32 <kakobrekla>	ya, inverse that and use it to trade
Feb 22 23:37:36 <kakobrekla>	millions.
Feb 22 23:37:39 <Bugpowder>	this run up has been the reddit crowd driven
Feb 22 23:37:43 <Bugpowder>	I think
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Feb 22 23:37:46 <mircea_popescu>	it's like doing an index of somali pirates manufactured goods purchasing plans
Feb 22 23:38:01 <Bugpowder>	meh
Feb 22 23:38:06 <Bugpowder>	maybe I am delusional
Feb 22 23:38:36 <mircea_popescu>	dude, the reddit crowd has an aggregated 18 dollars in disposable income.
Feb 22 23:38:42 <kakobrekla>	:D
Feb 22 23:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	and there's like what, 100k of them ?
Feb 22 23:39:11 <Diablo-D3>	uh
Feb 22 23:39:13 <Diablo-D3>	huh
Feb 22 23:39:16 <Diablo-D3>	thats a lot of money
Feb 22 23:39:24 <mircea_popescu>	almost two whole pizzas.
Feb 22 23:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	so like over 10k btc
Feb 22 23:40:11 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 18 * 100000 / 28
Feb 22 23:40:11 <gribble>	64285.7142857
Feb 22 23:40:20 <Diablo-D3>	6 and a half pizzas
Feb 22 23:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	btw, all this talk of bitcoin subdivisions is for the newbs. the pizza is the one unit of bitcoin wealth. sorta like fiat millionaire.
Feb 22 23:40:43 <ThickAsThieves>	someone's pushing the price down methinks
Feb 22 23:40:50 <jcpham>	yes but now 1 bitcoin buys 2 pizzas
Feb 22 23:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	i now see the wisdom of pizzaman1337's name
Feb 22 23:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00064374 = 0.6573 BTC [-]
Feb 22 23:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5579 @ 0.00064354 = 3.5903 BTC [-]
Feb 22 23:41:14 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Feb 22 23:42:03 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: heh dude
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Feb 22 23:42:13 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: they had a sale of $4.99 pizzas here
Feb 22 23:42:18 <Diablo-D3>	frozen ones that are normally like $10
Feb 22 23:42:28 <Diablo-D3>	they said large, they were really closer to medium
Feb 22 23:42:35 <Diablo-D3>	they were surprisingly good for frozen
Feb 22 23:42:51 <Diablo-D3>	so 1 btc buys an entire week of dinner
Feb 22 23:43:19 <mod6>	;;bids 28
Feb 22 23:43:21 <gribble>	There are currently 9089.5697 bitcoins demanded at or over 28.0 USD, worth 255454.402077 USD in total.
Feb 22 23:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064711 = 2.7962 BTC [+]
Feb 22 23:43:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00064727 = 0.31 BTC [+]
Feb 22 23:43:33 <mod6>	;;asks 30
Feb 22 23:43:35 <gribble>	There are currently 2412.2888 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 70658.6301887 USD in total.
Feb 22 23:44:11 <Bugpowder>	[23:40] <mircea_popescu> i now see the wisdom of pizzaman1337's name  lol
Feb 22 23:44:29 <Diablo-D3>	;;bids 0
Feb 22 23:44:31 <gribble>	There are currently 37067587 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 3517373.93318 USD in total.
Feb 22 23:44:38 <Bugpowder>	;;bids .9
Feb 22 23:44:39 <Diablo-D3>	;;asks 999999999
Feb 22 23:44:40 <gribble>	There are currently 304891.96 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.9 USD, worth 3475777.04152 USD in total.
Feb 22 23:44:41 <gribble>	There are currently 74166.811 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 2300089391.95 USD in total.
Feb 22 23:45:02 <kakobrekla>	stop spaming Diablo-D3
Feb 22 23:45:11 <Diablo-D3>	er?
Feb 22 23:45:17 <Diablo-D3>	some of those were Bugpowders
Feb 22 23:45:27 <Diablo-D3>	and mod6s
Feb 22 23:45:32 <kakobrekla>	yes, but yours were the stupid ones
Feb 22 23:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064713 = 2.7962 BTC [-]
Feb 22 23:45:46 <Diablo-D3>	not at all, Im asking for the entire market depth in both directions
Feb 22 23:45:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 829 @ 0.00064727 = 0.5366 BTC [+]
Feb 22 23:46:19 <kakobrekla>	meh
Feb 22 23:46:21 <kakobrekla>	useless
Feb 22 23:46:26 <Diablo-D3>	to you, maybe
Feb 22 23:46:29 <Diablo-D3>	I find it interesting
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Feb 22 23:56:33 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 22 23:56:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.30166, Best ask: 28.99800, Bid-ask spread: 0.69634, Last trade: 28.30166, 24 hour volume: 75390.89745049, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.15433
Feb 23 00:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00064727 = 9.5149 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 00:06:24 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 00:06:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.42002, Best ask: 28.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.22998, Last trade: 28.67900, 24 hour volume: 75429.09520144, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.14941
Feb 23 00:06:38 <Bowjob>	i think im fainting
Feb 23 00:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	o lala check the gap
Feb 23 00:08:27 <Bowjob>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18o1kl/bitcoin_is_going_to_plummet_this_friday/
Feb 23 00:08:38 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 00:08:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.63311, Best ask: 28.66000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02689, Last trade: 28.66000, 24 hour volume: 75515.13424352, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.14770
Feb 23 00:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	lmao the bs.
Feb 23 00:09:55 <mircea_popescu>	"I'm an intern @ a hedge fund and they have been heavily investing in btc recently. We re set to stagger sell and close all our positions next week, over 6.5 million worth of btc will ensue a massive crash. Just givin fair warning so afterwards I can get credit for calling it. 18GuUNbzyifszKpBtp18cH4UsmH2EVeyG3"
Feb 23 00:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Feb 23 00:10:13 <mod6>	lol
Feb 23 00:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	truly a repository of the retarded.
Feb 23 00:10:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5845 @ 0.00064354 = 3.7615 BTC [-]
Feb 23 00:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064286 = 2.7778 BTC [-]
Feb 23 00:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1234 @ 0.00064285 = 0.7933 BTC [-]
Feb 23 00:10:50 <mod6>	SEND ME COINZ KTHX BYE
Feb 23 00:10:56 <mircea_popescu>	there's a quote this reminds me of.
Feb 23 00:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	back in 2011 some noob joined irc and was like "anonymous will hack bitcoin uness you send me bitcoins"
Feb 23 00:11:42 <mod6>	haha, i want to say that I remember that.
Feb 23 00:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	lemme see mebbe i have it logged
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Feb 23 00:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	meh nothing easy pops it
Feb 23 00:15:56 <mod6>	im trying to remember who it was...
Feb 23 00:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	and im off. take care all
Feb 23 00:16:08 <mod6>	night
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Feb 23 00:18:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064298 = 2.7783 BTC [+]
Feb 23 00:18:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.00064285 = 7.1543 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 00:39:06 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 00:39:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.25102, Best ask: 29.32999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07897, Last trade: 29.32999, 24 hour volume: 76914.56364746, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.11158
Feb 23 00:41:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064726 = 2.7968 BTC [+]
Feb 23 00:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6457 @ 0.00064727 = 4.1794 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 00:48:44 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 00:48:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.02001, Best ask: 29.15505, Bid-ask spread: 0.13504, Last trade: 29.02001, 24 hour volume: 76988.21798455, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.11012
Feb 23 00:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00064709 = 2.5237 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 01:04:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 421 @ 0.00064709 = 0.2724 BTC [-]
Feb 23 01:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4029 @ 0.00064727 = 2.6079 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 01:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 943 @ 0.00064285 = 0.6062 BTC [-]
Feb 23 01:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064068 = 2.7684 BTC [-]
Feb 23 01:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 486 @ 0.00064067 = 0.3114 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 01:18:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 20 @ 0.0792 = 1.584 BTC [-]
Feb 23 01:19:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9370 @ 0.0006467 = 6.0596 BTC [+]
Feb 23 01:19:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 230 @ 0.00064714 = 0.1488 BTC [+]
Feb 23 01:19:39 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 01:19:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.18999, Best ask: 29.29999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 29.29999, 24 hour volume: 73147.45342152, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.10040
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Feb 23 01:23:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.5137 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 01:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4091 @ 0.00064714 = 2.6474 BTC [+]
Feb 23 01:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9684 @ 0.00064727 = 6.2682 BTC [+]
Feb 23 01:41:40 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 01:41:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.25000, Best ask: 29.29799, Bid-ask spread: 0.04799, Last trade: 29.29799, 24 hour volume: 74007.34247114, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.08857
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Feb 23 01:55:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00064727 = 10.6476 BTC [+]
Feb 23 02:01:01 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 02:01:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.50000, Best ask: 29.63577, Bid-ask spread: 0.13577, Last trade: 29.40600, 24 hour volume: 74736.47049635, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.07942
Feb 23 02:04:19 <Bowjob>	someone pump up s.dice pl0x
Feb 23 02:05:22 <Namworld>	never
Feb 23 02:05:47 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 02:05:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.55000, Best ask: 29.58999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 29.60000, 24 hour volume: 74999.73818435, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.07692
Feb 23 02:06:02 <Bowjob>	bug, your puts might be in trouble
Feb 23 02:06:03 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 23 02:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00064138 = 1.86 BTC [-]
Feb 23 02:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00064094 = 1.9869 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 02:55:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064101 = 4.8717 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 02:59:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00064727 = 9.3854 BTC [+]
Feb 23 03:00:14 <Nameface>	MPEX, Bitfunder, BTCT.CO, Havelock.... what else is there?
Feb 23 03:00:50 <Nameface>	what do you recommend?
Feb 23 03:02:14 <Namworld>	MPEx if you can afford, BTCT.co
Feb 23 03:04:43 <Nameface>	hey Nam didnt you run an asset on GLBSE?
Feb 23 03:05:15 <Nameface>	Canadian mining or something? I'm in Canada
Feb 23 03:07:01 <Namworld>	I did, yes. BTC-Mining
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Feb 23 03:08:04 <Nameface>	still going?
Feb 23 03:08:08 <Nameface>	still mining?
Feb 23 03:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00064727 = 7.4112 BTC [+]
Feb 23 03:09:23 <Namworld>	eh, nope
Feb 23 03:09:28 <Bowjob>	hey guys lets just say we have infinite time as humans
Feb 23 03:09:33 <Bowjob>	how would we go about solving a block?
Feb 23 03:09:37 <Bowjob>	in hand
Feb 23 03:11:17 <Nameface>	I was thinking of getting into mining because power is cheap here, not profitable?
Feb 23 03:12:05 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141139.0
Feb 23 03:12:31 <Namworld>	Funds were lent to that guy for hashing while enough was raised for an ASIC =/
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Feb 23 03:13:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064727 = 6.0196 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 03:15:20 <Namworld>	Well I lost 770 BTC it seems.
Feb 23 03:17:23 <Bowjob>	thats not good and i know its an understatement
Feb 23 03:17:39 <Bowjob>	$23k loss
Feb 23 03:18:13 <Namworld>	It was worth less at the time. More lik 8k loss to me... which could have turned into 23k.
Feb 23 03:18:18 <Nameface>	...harsh
Feb 23 03:18:28 <Bowjob>	8k.. thats still quote a loss
Feb 23 03:18:37 <Namworld>	Quite a loss.
Feb 23 03:18:39 <Bowjob>	how much in BTC was it
Feb 23 03:18:40 <Bowjob>	?
Feb 23 03:19:04 <Namworld>	770 BTC... was around 10 USD/BTC at the time
Feb 23 03:19:11 <Namworld>	8k loss
Feb 23 03:19:58 <Bowjob>	Well
Feb 23 03:20:04 <Bowjob>	that sucks
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Feb 23 03:22:08 <Namworld>	I was putting most of my funds there
Feb 23 03:22:22 <Namworld>	Really killed all the trading I did on GLBSE
Feb 23 03:22:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00064727 = 6.8934 BTC [+]
Feb 23 03:23:07 <Namworld>	That was equivalent to all the BTC I had bought to start with at 5 USD and 10 USD each.
Feb 23 03:23:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064534 = 1.6134 BTC [-]
Feb 23 03:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1221 @ 0.00064068 = 0.7823 BTC [-]
Feb 23 03:23:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.00064067 = 7.13 BTC [-]
Feb 23 03:23:30 <Bowjob>	the best strategy is imo, buy and hold
Feb 23 03:23:45 <Namworld>	Maybe. But trading has been good to me.
Feb 23 03:23:48 <Nameface>	so far that's been a winner
Feb 23 03:23:48 <Bowjob>	theres someone who lost 500 BTC from the flash crash
Feb 23 03:23:53 <Namworld>	Holding mining stuff tho...
Feb 23 03:23:56 <Nameface>	meanwhile a lot of us got screwed in a bunch of ways
Feb 23 03:24:05 <Namworld>	Bad idea...
Feb 23 03:24:10 <Nameface>	I lost a few shekels in the glbse fiasco too
Feb 23 03:24:13 <Namworld>	They all ended up screwed
Feb 23 03:24:13 <Bowjob>	I have most BTC  on hold
Feb 23 03:24:16 <Bowjob>	1 Avalon
Feb 23 03:24:19 <Bowjob>	and some dice
Feb 23 03:24:20 <Bowjob>	thats it
Feb 23 03:24:23 <Bowjob>	i keep it simple
Feb 23 03:24:29 <Bowjob>	diversification is for pussies.
Feb 23 03:24:56 <Namworld>	diversification is important when trading... not for stashing.
Feb 23 03:24:56 <Nameface>	bought dice at passthru ipo 0037 and sold out at 0056, not bad
Feb 23 03:25:01 <Nameface>	might get back into it
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Feb 23 03:25:30 <Nameface>	too many assets and I can keep up with everything
Feb 23 03:25:40 <Namworld>	Ah, I manage a passthrough for S.DICE now
Feb 23 03:25:52 <Nameface>	oh no shit, which one?
Feb 23 03:26:02 <Namworld>	S.DICE-PT on BTCT.co
Feb 23 03:26:24 <Namworld>	I also manage BITVPS & BTC-BOND and a few others.
Feb 23 03:26:25 <Nameface>	ok I am on bitfunder, but I think I'll take a first look at btct.co
Feb 23 03:26:31 <Nameface>	seems like that the place
Feb 23 03:26:47 <Namworld>	I get twice a day the list of all holders, email + shares
Feb 23 03:26:52 <Namworld>	Convenient.
Feb 23 03:27:14 <Nameface>	good to know, in case shit hits the fan again
Feb 23 03:27:31 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGFKVlAtZVAzOGNqS1Brd05MUlFlT2c
Feb 23 03:27:43 <Namworld>	My portfolio along with BTC-BOND debt I have.
Feb 23 03:28:07 <Namworld>	In USD it looks good. But far less than if I had all the BTC I lost to amazingrando
Feb 23 03:28:20 <BitHub>	cool portfolio nam
Feb 23 03:28:26 <Namworld>	the USD+ is from BTC price rise =/
Feb 23 03:28:41 <Namworld>	@BitHub: and it auto-updates!
Feb 23 03:28:53 <BitHub>	nice, that's what i need
Feb 23 03:29:09 <BitHub>	i just manually type mine in for no
Feb 23 03:29:11 <BitHub>	now
Feb 23 03:29:24 <Namworld>	Didn't I already link you to my thread with the API script for google spreadsheets?
Feb 23 03:29:43 <BitHub>	oh? Nope.
Feb 23 03:29:49 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140427.0
Feb 23 03:29:52 <Nameface>	coool
Feb 23 03:30:09 <BitHub>	btw was just reading that other thread you posted, that's messed up what happened
Feb 23 03:30:54 <BitHub>	very nice Namworld, does it do BF as well?
Feb 23 03:31:08 <Namworld>	Can fetch MPEx average price, BTCT.co prices/amount held, MtGox BTC price, balance on BTC addresses
Feb 23 03:31:30 <Namworld>	It doesn't do BitFunder yet. There was no API at the time.
Feb 23 03:32:16 <Namworld>	hmm, and still no API
Feb 23 03:33:22 <Namworld>	Well API functions for google spreadsheet is a must. It's nice to get your value updated regularly and automatically. There's a few things it doesn't fetch however.
Feb 23 03:33:58 <Namworld>	Such as MPEx account content, would require the STAT command with gpg.
Feb 23 03:34:05 <BitHub>	be good once BF allows api
Feb 23 03:34:11 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 23 03:34:18 <BitHub>	i guess you could do the same for blockchain wallet?
Feb 23 03:34:35 <BitHub>	if you just want the balance
Feb 23 03:35:02 <Namworld>	It already does
Feb 23 03:35:09 <Namworld>	[03:31] <Namworld> Can fetch MPEx average price, BTCT.co prices/amount held, MtGox BTC price, balance on BTC addresses
Feb 23 03:35:24 <Namworld>	notice the last part, it's using blockchain API
Feb 23 03:35:39 <BitHub>	ahh check, missed that
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Feb 23 03:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1853 @ 0.00064067 = 1.1872 BTC [-]
Feb 23 03:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1347 @ 0.00064032 = 0.8625 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 03:41:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064696 = 2.7819 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 03:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1303 @ 0.00064032 = 0.8343 BTC [-]
Feb 23 03:47:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00064006 = 0.8961 BTC [-]
Feb 23 03:47:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063681 = 2.7517 BTC [-]
Feb 23 03:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1928 @ 0.0006368 = 1.2278 BTC [-]
Feb 23 03:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10798 @ 0.00063641 = 6.872 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 03:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00064696 = 0.0136 BTC [+]
Feb 23 03:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064726 = 2.7968 BTC [+]
Feb 23 03:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3058 @ 0.00064727 = 1.9794 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 03:59:53 <Bowjob>	;;ask
Feb 23 03:59:53 <gribble>	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
Feb 23 03:59:59 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 03:59:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.40111, Best ask: 29.47321, Bid-ask spread: 0.07210, Last trade: 29.37108, 24 hour volume: 75952.86899390, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.05026
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Feb 23 04:02:28 <Bowjob>	man.. does BTC seem a little cultish to you guys?
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Feb 23 04:04:16 <Namworld>	yes... people be mad
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Feb 23 04:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00064727 = 11.748 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 04:06:25 <Bowjob>	shoot. i joined a cult then
Feb 23 04:06:26 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 23 04:06:31 <Bowjob>	church of satoshi
Feb 23 04:08:46 <Namworld>	yeah
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Feb 23 04:29:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10921 @ 0.00064727 = 7.0688 BTC [+]
Feb 23 04:38:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064215 = 2.7747 BTC [-]
Feb 23 04:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2979 @ 0.00064207 = 1.9127 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 04:42:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064237 = 2.7757 BTC [+]
Feb 23 04:42:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11680 @ 0.00064207 = 7.4994 BTC [-]
Feb 23 04:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 199 @ 0.00063875 = 0.1271 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 04:43:34 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 23 04:43:36 <Bowjob>	I got booted out?
Feb 23 04:43:38 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 04:43:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.48341, Best ask: 29.49798, Bid-ask spread: 0.01457, Last trade: 29.48341, 24 hour volume: 75457.95645237, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.04455
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Feb 23 05:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006471 = 2.7961 BTC [+]
Feb 23 05:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.00064727 = 2.446 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 05:33:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.000647 = 2.6204 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 06:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064374 = 2.7816 BTC [-]
Feb 23 06:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14679 @ 0.00064341 = 9.4446 BTC [-]
Feb 23 06:02:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 271 @ 0.000647 = 0.1753 BTC [+]
Feb 23 06:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064715 = 2.7963 BTC [+]
Feb 23 06:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5536 @ 0.00064716 = 3.5827 BTC [+]
Feb 23 06:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11364 @ 0.00064716 = 7.3543 BTC [+]
Feb 23 06:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 748 @ 0.00064727 = 0.4842 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 06:08:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.3495 = 2.097 BTC [-]
Feb 23 06:14:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.09869 BTC [+]
Feb 23 06:14:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.0987 BTC [+]
Feb 23 06:14:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 7 @ 0.1 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Feb 23 06:16:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]
Feb 23 06:18:34 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 06:18:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.35003, Best ask: 29.41999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06996, Last trade: 29.35003, 24 hour volume: 74433.50986051, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.01223
Feb 23 06:28:55 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 06:29:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.33001, Best ask: 29.41999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08998, Last trade: 29.41999, 24 hour volume: 74371.81331829, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.01126
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Feb 23 06:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7162 @ 0.00064424 = 4.614 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 07:06:10 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 07:06:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.25401, Best ask: 29.26801, Bid-ask spread: 0.01400, Last trade: 29.26801, 24 hour volume: 73142.52390913, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.99905
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Feb 23 07:08:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2821 @ 0.00064341 = 1.8151 BTC [-]
Feb 23 07:08:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7419 @ 0.00063981 = 4.7468 BTC [-]
Feb 23 07:08:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063876 = 2.7601 BTC [-]
Feb 23 07:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 639 @ 0.00063875 = 0.4082 BTC [-]
Feb 23 07:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1549 @ 0.00064424 = 0.9979 BTC [+]
Feb 23 07:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3151 @ 0.00064726 = 2.0395 BTC [+]
Feb 23 07:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063904 = 2.7613 BTC [-]
Feb 23 07:30:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10812 @ 0.00063875 = 6.9062 BTC [-]
Feb 23 07:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2702 @ 0.00063641 = 1.7196 BTC [-]
Feb 23 07:30:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2865 @ 0.00063556 = 1.8209 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 07:43:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1170 @ 0.00064726 = 0.7573 BTC [+]
Feb 23 07:43:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6092 @ 0.00064727 = 3.9432 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 07:47:48 <Bugpowder>	DIVE
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Feb 23 07:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 23 07:53:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.70001, Best ask: 28.88988, Bid-ask spread: 0.18987, Last trade: 28.88988, 24 hour volume: 74279.87605875, 24 hour low: 28.30166, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.97270
Feb 23 07:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	o noes!
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Feb 23 07:54:19 <Bugpowder>	o yes!
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Feb 23 07:54:23 <Bugpowder>	ohhh yesssss
Feb 23 07:54:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006356 = 2.7464 BTC [-]
Feb 23 07:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7979 @ 0.00063556 = 5.0711 BTC [-]
Feb 23 07:54:37 <Bugpowder>	FRANK THE TANK FRANK THE TANK!
Feb 23 07:54:38 <mircea_popescu>	but it's below historical max ;/
Feb 23 07:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063586 = 2.7476 BTC [+]
Feb 23 07:55:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6867 @ 0.00063556 = 4.3644 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 08:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5747 @ 0.00064572 = 3.711 BTC [+]
Feb 23 08:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 858 @ 0.00597078 = 5.1229 BTC [-]
Feb 23 08:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2553 @ 0.00064572 = 1.6485 BTC [+]
Feb 23 08:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6147 @ 0.00063556 = 3.9068 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 08:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6001 @ 0.00063556 = 3.814 BTC [-]
Feb 23 08:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2167 @ 0.00063516 = 1.3764 BTC [-]
Feb 23 08:34:21 <mjr_>	very boring correction so far
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Feb 23 08:34:34 <mjr_>	hey namworld
Feb 23 08:35:02 <Namworld_AFK>	hey
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Feb 23 08:35:33 <mjr_>	boring correction so far
Feb 23 08:35:41 <mjr_>	i was waiting for 27
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Feb 23 08:37:14 <Bugpowder>	back to 17
Feb 23 08:37:18 <Bugpowder>	lets do this
Feb 23 08:37:28 <Bugpowder>	mjr_:
Feb 23 08:37:34 <Bugpowder>	buy some puts, it will be more exciting
Feb 23 08:37:43 <mjr_>	lol
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Feb 23 08:37:52 <mjr_>	i kinda doubt it
Feb 23 08:38:12 <Namjies>	eh
Feb 23 08:38:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly. 17 ?!
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Feb 23 08:39:00 <Namjies>	I doubt we'll see 17
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Feb 23 08:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	stranger things have happened, but i kinda don't see it either.
Feb 23 08:41:00 <Bugpowder>	don't make me draw some lines on a chart
Feb 23 08:41:04 <Bugpowder>	I will do it
Feb 23 08:43:30 <Bugpowder>	It's a long options month
Feb 23 08:43:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 23 08:43:40 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: how to calculate bitbet winning
Feb 23 08:43:46 <Anduck>	i read your article about it
Feb 23 08:44:04 <Bugpowder>	35 days
Feb 23 08:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	"LOL Well, then maybe he felt frustrated and powerless because reporting me to the police if that becomes desirable would be meaningless and inconsequential as they're already beating the poop out of me and/or arresting me approximately every 6 weeks – last time on January 17, 2013 CET when I was intercepted and arrested by Služba općeg kriminaliteta, terorizma i ratnih zločina – the General Criminality, Terrori
Feb 23 08:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	sm, and War Crimes Service – of the Republic of Croatia on charges of possession of, and/or having planted, explosives – so even if he reported me for e.g. nuclear terrorism, nothing new would happen. It would be interesting if he could get Antiteroristička jedinica "Lučko" – the "Lučko" Anti-Terrorist Unit – to attack my position in full combat gear to see if I would get startled as I've not yet had an enco
Feb 23 08:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	unter with them."
Feb 23 08:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	jessu the forum ?!
Feb 23 08:44:29 <Anduck>	you didnt tell how you actually calculate them, just throwing numbers around. so mp: how to do it
Feb 23 08:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck well listen
Feb 23 08:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	your bet has a btc value and a weight value, right ?
Feb 23 08:44:48 <Bugpowder>	r u serious
Feb 23 08:44:53 <Anduck>	yes yes
Feb 23 08:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder kid's prolly weak at math.
Feb 23 08:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck and the bet has a total BTC pool and a total weight for the winning side, right ?
Feb 23 08:45:08 <Bugpowder>	this is like 4th grade calculus
Feb 23 08:45:13 <Anduck>	in fact, i am at uni and i aint even bad at maths :D
Feb 23 08:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	ok ok, just follow it's really simple, i'ma explain it.
Feb 23 08:45:27 <Anduck>	its just poor describing by mircea popescu at that article, really.
Feb 23 08:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck focus!
Feb 23 08:45:49 <Anduck>	just tell me the way to use the weight var
Feb 23 08:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	ok let's work an example.
Feb 23 08:46:04 <Anduck>	it would work this way better:
Feb 23 08:46:07 <Bugpowder>	Can I win bitcoins in the example
Feb 23 08:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/46/gold-price-remains-below-1750-usd-oz-until-mid-february/ look at this one.
Feb 23 08:46:12 <Anduck>	A bets 1 BTC on winning side at weight of 100`000. B bets 1 BTC on winning side at weight of 50`000. C bets 10 BTC on losing side.
Feb 23 08:46:12 <Anduck>	Total bet is 12 BTC, so BitBet takes 0.12 BTC. The remainder 9.88 BTC is split according to weight : A gets 1 + 6.58666666 = 7.58666666 and B gets 1 + 3.29333333 = 4.29333333 BTC.
Feb 23 08:46:19 <Anduck>	where does those nuumbers come from?
Feb 23 08:46:31 <Anduck>	just tell me that and i get it :)
Feb 23 08:46:36 <mircea_popescu>	anduck. shut up for a moment and listen to me.
Feb 23 08:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	go to http://bitbet.us/bet/46/gold-price-remains-below-1750-usd-oz-until-mid-february/ and look at it.
Feb 23 08:46:49 <Anduck>	fine
Feb 23 08:46:55 <Anduck>	yea
Feb 23 08:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	see where it says 04-02-13 15:49	Yes	16`070	1.15000000 ?
Feb 23 08:47:19 <Anduck>	yups
Feb 23 08:47:28 <mircea_popescu>	ok. that person bet 1.15 btc and the weight was 16070.
Feb 23 08:47:36 <Anduck>	yes
Feb 23 08:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	now, the total bet pool is 0.48 + 3.15
Feb 23 08:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.48 + 3.15
Feb 23 08:47:46 <gribble>	3.63
Feb 23 08:47:52 <Anduck>	and 0.48 of that gets divided, right
Feb 23 08:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	see where it says Weighted Yes: 90`361 ?
Feb 23 08:48:11 <Anduck>	yes
Feb 23 08:48:31 <mircea_popescu>	ok. so our guy's weight is
Feb 23 08:48:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.15  * 16070
Feb 23 08:48:39 <gribble>	18480.5
Feb 23 08:48:39 <Anduck>	lost bets / bet
Feb 23 08:48:46 <Anduck>	lost bets / (bet*weight) ?
Feb 23 08:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	lost bets / bet (weight / total weight)
Feb 23 08:49:24 <Anduck>	"total weight" being the weighted yes/no ?
Feb 23 08:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	either yes or no as the case may be
Feb 23 08:49:36 <Anduck>	yep
Feb 23 08:49:39 <Anduck>	ok i'll try this
Feb 23 08:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	in our case the 90361
Feb 23 08:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	go ahead.
Feb 23 08:50:24 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder have you won any bitcoins ?
Feb 23 08:51:45 <Anduck>	(lost bets / bet) * (weight / total weight) ?
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Feb 23 08:51:56 <Anduck>	hmm
Feb 23 08:52:52 <mircea_popescu>	watch him find a bug now
Feb 23 08:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	so we can all facepalm
Feb 23 08:53:21 <kakobrekla>	stfu
Feb 23 08:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	no u
Feb 23 08:53:35 <assbot>	 NO U
Feb 23 08:53:45 <mircea_popescu>	why's the bot talking out of its ass ?
Feb 23 08:54:01 <assbot>	 these are farts that have phonetics
Feb 23 08:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	you know one of those days you'll have to fix that leading space bug you got there :D
Feb 23 08:54:26 <Anduck>	well i still seem to fail this somehow :_:
Feb 23 08:54:34 <Anduck>	ill try again later =)
Feb 23 08:54:39 <Anduck>	thanks for trying, mp
Feb 23 08:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	np.
Feb 23 08:54:51 <mircea_popescu>	thats why i'm called mp btw. it's really close to np
Feb 23 08:54:52 <kakobrekla>	where is a leading space?
Feb 23 08:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	just more lines in it.
Feb 23 08:54:58 <kakobrekla>	lol mp
Feb 23 08:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla <assbot>[  ]NO U
Feb 23 08:55:56 <kakobrekla>	hm
Feb 23 08:56:17 <kakobrekla>	strange, apparently my local client cleans it up
Feb 23 08:56:19 <kakobrekla>	ill fix.
Feb 23 08:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144335.0;all lol this escalated quickly.
Feb 23 09:02:06 <DeadWeasel>	so you think we'll drop much more this weekend?
Feb 23 09:03:36 <Namjies>	I think we might just resume back upward...
Feb 23 09:04:48 <DeadWeasel>	ok.  I sold 50 at 30.4  I just rebought them.
Feb 23 09:04:53 <DeadWeasel>	:)
Feb 23 09:05:06 <Namjies>	My advice is not sound financial advice...
Feb 23 09:05:33 <DeadWeasel>	i did not take it so, I made the purchase already, before your opinion
Feb 23 09:05:51 <DeadWeasel>	plus, I got all my money out already.
Feb 23 09:05:54 <Namjies>	Alright then
Feb 23 09:05:55 <DeadWeasel>	it's all profit I'm playing with
Feb 23 09:06:40 <Bugpowder>	DeadWeasel: you bought TOO SOON
Feb 23 09:06:49 <Bugpowder>	Should have waited till Sunday afternoon
Feb 23 09:06:54 <DeadWeasel>	good point
Feb 23 09:07:04 <Bugpowder>	possible rally sunday night when wires start getting funded
Feb 23 09:07:15 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: I have won MANY bitcoins
Feb 23 09:07:28 <Bugpowder>	also...  the BFL bet should be paying me out soon.
Feb 23 09:07:35 <DeadWeasel>	me to0!
Feb 23 09:07:44 <DeadWeasel>	if there is a rally sunday night then I bought at the right time, now?
Feb 23 09:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064706 = 2.7959 BTC [+]
Feb 23 09:07:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.00064727 = 5.8766 BTC [+]
Feb 23 09:07:58 <Bugpowder>	OK FOLKS, I called the last rally and bought calls to back up the predictions a month ago.  Now I'm calling the crash and have puts to back it up.
Feb 23 09:08:01 <BitHub>	now is a great time to buy
Feb 23 09:08:04 <Bugpowder>	OFFICIAL PREDICTION
Feb 23 09:08:05 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/AHWri8B.png
Feb 23 09:08:07 <Bugpowder>	LOL
Feb 23 09:08:09 <BitHub>	if you want to cash out sunday
Feb 23 09:08:11 <BitHub>	night
Feb 23 09:08:36 <Bugpowder>	---exclusive to bitcoin-assets memebers---
Feb 23 09:09:04 <DeadWeasel>	Why, you think next week will be a dead flat volume week?
Feb 23 09:09:27 <DeadWeasel>	steady media should keep us afloat, just wanted to reup in the weekend lull
Feb 23 09:09:28 <Bugpowder>	A great time to buy is around $15.
Feb 23 09:09:33 <DeadWeasel>	ahaha
Feb 23 09:09:36 <DeadWeasel>	I bought most then
Feb 23 09:10:05 <DeadWeasel>	but i'm trying to sell high and buy low now, which is fucking impossible int his market
Feb 23 09:10:08 <DeadWeasel>	brb
Feb 23 09:10:15 <BitHub>	i should of doubled flip this weekend, but the time differnce messes me up
Feb 23 09:10:28 <BitHub>	have
Feb 23 09:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064695 = 2.7955 BTC [-]
Feb 23 09:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5579 @ 0.00064727 = 3.6111 BTC [+]
Feb 23 09:11:08 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 23 09:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063298 / 0.00064538 / 0.00066013 (1651667 shares, 1,065.96 BTC), 7D: 0.000622 / 0.00064746 / 0.00068894 (10878160 shares, 7,043.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00060745 / 0.0006656 / 0.0007 (72247862 shares, 48,088.35 BTC)
Feb 23 09:18:08 <Bugpowder>	NEW LOW
Feb 23 09:19:17 <kakobrekla>	unless some retard sells under 27 we are good
Feb 23 09:29:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064708 = 2.796 BTC [-]
Feb 23 09:29:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5971 @ 0.00064727 = 3.8648 BTC [+]
Feb 23 09:34:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]
Feb 23 09:35:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.632 = 6.32 BTC [-]
Feb 23 09:37:07 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> also...  the BFL bet should be paying me out soon. << indeed
Feb 23 09:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	i remember inaba a month or so ago
Feb 23 09:37:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 23 09:37:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.63 = 2.52 BTC [-]
Feb 23 09:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	lmao bugpowder is influencing the market. call the bec!
Feb 23 09:45:37 <kakobrekla>	since we are talking bullshit predictions
Feb 23 09:45:39 <kakobrekla>	heres mine
Feb 23 09:45:40 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/36/x3/1yQoSMpP/critticall.png
Feb 23 09:45:47 <kakobrekla>	at least its done by something smarter than me
Feb 23 09:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	Confirmed total: 3,003 BTC
Feb 23 09:50:06 <mircea_popescu>	bitbet total over 3k!
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Feb 23 09:50:50 <mircea_popescu>	Gold Price - The spot gold price will trade below $1500 an ounce anytime during 2013
Feb 23 09:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	so far 1:1
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Feb 23 09:53:36 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 23 09:53:38 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222702 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1073 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 20 hours, 1 minute, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4282889.59309 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.30693
Feb 23 09:54:04 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 23 09:54:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.05014, Best ask: 28.09995, Bid-ask spread: 0.04981, Last trade: 28.05014, 24 hour volume: 77002.28715277, 24 hour low: 28.03100, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.80096
Feb 23 09:54:34 <thestringpuller>	damn i keep missing swimgs
Feb 23 09:54:39 <thestringpuller>	swings*
Feb 23 09:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Feb 23 09:57:15 <Namjies>	you're right there.... you didn't sell prior?
Feb 23 09:57:16 <gribble>	Time since last block: 10 minutes and 40 seconds
Feb 23 09:57:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063521 = 2.7447 BTC [-]
Feb 23 09:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9065 @ 0.00063516 = 5.7577 BTC [-]
Feb 23 10:00:03 <kakobrekla>	anywho im gonna laugh my ass off if critticall comes close to what happens
Feb 23 10:00:18 <mircea_popescu>	is it critTICall ?
Feb 23 10:00:32 <kakobrekla>	lol no
Feb 23 10:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.52897577 = 1528.9758 BTC
Feb 23 10:02:34 <Namjies>	wow... some heavy optioning...
Feb 23 10:02:45 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, i like these new option values.
Feb 23 10:03:14 <kakobrekla>	hm would having options in sierra chart along mpex stocks make any sense
Feb 23 10:03:32 <kakobrekla>	i guess not much
Feb 23 10:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	what could be useful would be some sort of merged options index
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Feb 23 10:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	if someone could manage to do it sanely.
Feb 23 10:03:48 <kakobrekla>	da what
Feb 23 10:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	take all option vwaps and merge it into a single indicator.
Feb 23 10:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	some sort of price prediction should be massage-able ouf ot that.
Feb 23 10:04:29 <davos>	vix
Feb 23 10:04:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Feb 23 10:04:45 <mircea_popescu>	something likwe that yea
Feb 23 10:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	but i'd rather someone makes something new, as vix is both stupid and trademarked.
Feb 23 10:05:20 <thestringpuller>	nuh uh
Feb 23 10:05:27 <thestringpuller>	your stupid and trademarkes
Feb 23 10:05:31 <thestringpuller>	trademarked*
Feb 23 10:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not trademarked, trilema is
Feb 23 10:05:46 <thestringpuller>	i have a trilemma
Feb 23 10:05:58 <thestringpuller>	in mah pants
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Feb 23 10:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 845 @ 1.53153505 = 1294.1471 BTC [+]
Feb 23 10:12:56 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 23 10:12:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.00000, Best ask: 28.02098, Bid-ask spread: 0.02098, Last trade: 28.00000, 24 hour volume: 77466.15415150, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.75109
Feb 23 10:14:01 <mircea_popescu>	o guise, i just realised
Feb 23 10:14:21 <mircea_popescu>	if the rise keeps going for a coupla more weeks i'll be a nominal lei billionaire.
Feb 23 10:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	there's like a dozen of those.
Feb 23 10:15:04 <kakobrekla>	gg
Feb 23 10:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	ima buy myself a tv station or something
Feb 23 10:16:14 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Feb 23 10:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	o no, wait, it's been done.
Feb 23 10:16:34 <kakobrekla>	that shit is dead
Feb 23 10:16:41 <Bugpowder>	28 is about to go
Feb 23 10:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla yeah, true.
Feb 23 10:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 23 10:17:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.00000, Best ask: 28.01099, Bid-ask spread: 0.01099, Last trade: 28.00000, 24 hour volume: 78910.12493557, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.71461
Feb 23 10:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3117 @ 0.00063516 = 1.9798 BTC [-]
Feb 23 10:18:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063472 = 2.7426 BTC [-]
Feb 23 10:18:14 <Bugpowder>	btce is down below 26.5
Feb 23 10:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7012 @ 0.00063471 = 4.4506 BTC [-]
Feb 23 10:18:28 <pigeons>	i know the perfect host for your tv station... bruce wagner
Feb 23 10:19:42 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Feb 23 10:19:42 <gribble>	0 seconds
Feb 23 10:20:19 <mircea_popescu>	i think his bf was about on the level of technical competence that's typical for local tv stations.
Feb 23 10:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	the guy shooting in demo mode
Feb 23 10:21:00 <BitHub>	help mircea
Feb 23 10:21:05 <BitHub>	the dream is over
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Feb 23 10:21:26 <Bugpowder>	bitstamp
Feb 23 10:21:28 <Bugpowder>	25.51
Feb 23 10:21:28 <BitHub>	its turned into a 28$ nightmare
Feb 23 10:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P290T] 1000 @ 0.2699455 = 269.9455 BTC [+]
Feb 23 10:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol what's so bad with 28
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Feb 23 10:26:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063473 = 2.7427 BTC [+]
Feb 23 10:26:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3079 @ 0.00063471 = 1.9543 BTC [-]
Feb 23 10:26:47 <mircea_popescu>	that sad, sad moment when i have to read the mpex faq to see dividend spec.
Feb 23 10:29:42 <Bugpowder>	bounce?
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Feb 23 10:32:53 <mircea_popescu>	pretty soon mpoe will have a full year of dividends!
Feb 23 10:33:13 <jcpham>	woohoo
Feb 23 10:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	"The list of companies that have stopped selling firearms and ammunition to law enforcement agencies in states that are restricting the Second Amendment has grown to 42"
Feb 23 10:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	this should be interesting
Feb 23 10:33:37 <jcpham>	the divide grows
Feb 23 10:33:55 <jcpham>	i bet it is fun to watch from the sidelines
Feb 23 10:34:07 <jcpham>	the deterioration of america
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Feb 23 10:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham it kinda is.
Feb 23 10:35:18 <jcpham>	it's funny to me how the original americans wanted to escape british colonialism and banking
Feb 23 10:35:28 <jcpham>	and then we did the exact same thing
Feb 23 10:35:31 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 23 10:35:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.14000, Best ask: 28.16540, Bid-ask spread: 0.02540, Last trade: 28.14000, 24 hour volume: 79576.42946820, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.64794
Feb 23 10:35:32 <jcpham>	learned nothing
Feb 23 10:35:37 <BitHub>	and religion
Feb 23 10:35:42 <jcpham>	and then took it to an all new extreme level
Feb 23 10:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham ya well its how these things work.
Feb 23 10:36:12 <jcpham>	cycles
Feb 23 10:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	all girls want to run away from home and become the oposite of their mother
Feb 23 10:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	what they don't know is exactly how their mother ended up herself.
Feb 23 10:36:31 <truffles>	i dunno how vegans do it, salad alone...
Feb 23 10:36:53 <thestringpuller>	temet nosce?
Feb 23 10:37:15 <truffles>	all girls
Feb 23 10:37:29 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's gnothi seauton.
Feb 23 10:38:45 <thestringpuller>	It's all the same thing!
Feb 23 10:38:46 <thestringpuller>	:P
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Feb 23 10:39:39 <truffles>	latin came 1st so..
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Feb 23 10:40:26 <thestringpuller>	:P
Feb 23 10:40:39 <thestringpuller>	hipster latin
Feb 23 10:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136162355089.jpg ding ding, here comes the antifashion highschool
Feb 23 10:41:36 <toffoo>	most look pretty boneable there mircea
Feb 23 10:42:00 <truffles>	pedo alert
Feb 23 10:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	they would be very boneable if someone either stripped them or dressed them.
Feb 23 10:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	the course of being 18
Feb 23 10:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	curse*
Feb 23 10:43:13 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: link? to the article on the firearms ?
Feb 23 10:43:16 <BitHub>	is that mpex headquarters?
Feb 23 10:43:20 <jcpham>	male to female ratio in that photo is amazing
Feb 23 10:43:38 <BitHub>	mircea you pimp
Feb 23 10:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham very strong gender separation in romania
Feb 23 10:43:53 <mircea_popescu>	most boys do like tech stuff, most gurls psycology or w/e
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Feb 23 10:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	old soviet guy's an engineer girl's a teacher stuff.
Feb 23 10:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto one sec
Feb 23 10:44:12 <truffles>	romania hates women though
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Feb 23 10:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/23/gaining-momentum-now-42-gun-companies-have-stopped-selling-to-law-enforcement-in-anti-2nd-amendment-states/
Feb 23 10:44:41 <Ukto>	thanks
Feb 23 10:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub if you can't see cunny it can't be my hq.
Feb 23 10:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	and women in pants ?! wtf is this.
Feb 23 10:45:12 <BitHub>	cunny = mingy?
Feb 23 10:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	mingy ?! that sounds like mange
Feb 23 10:45:55 <BitHub>	we're talking about clams here right?
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Feb 23 10:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	yeah tuna.
Feb 23 10:46:10 <BitHub>	ahh okey, the ol sushi roll
Feb 23 10:46:55 <BitHub>	is cunny slang for see you next tuesday?
Feb 23 10:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's diminutive cunt.
Feb 23 10:47:18 <BitHub>	;)
Feb 23 10:47:52 <BitHub>	where's your pr girl? :P
Feb 23 10:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno
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Feb 23 10:48:50 <BitHub>	her, "so you think you're going to start a bitcoin business" thing was good, i read it a few months ago
Feb 23 10:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	she's done a few decent pieces
Feb 23 10:51:45 <thestringpuller>	anonymous PR
Feb 23 10:51:49 <thestringpuller>	:P
Feb 23 10:55:08 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 23 10:55:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.37039, Best ask: 28.39949, Bid-ask spread: 0.02910, Last trade: 28.39999, 24 hour volume: 80010.85487400, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.57922
Feb 23 10:55:20 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 30
Feb 23 10:55:21 <gribble>	There are currently 2949.6143 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 86428.9204458 USD in total.
Feb 23 10:55:26 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: The boycott you mentioned is a cheap protest. Not one of those vendors was a major supplier for any police agency to begin with.
Feb 23 10:55:35 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 27
Feb 23 10:55:37 <gribble>	There are currently 11222.97 bitcoins demanded at or over 27.0 USD, worth 308581.534498 USD in total.
Feb 23 10:55:44 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 28
Feb 23 10:55:46 <gribble>	There are currently 4015.1111 bitcoins demanded at or over 28.0 USD, worth 112516.0971 USD in total.
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Feb 23 11:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform i have no idea.
Feb 23 11:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	link or something ?
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Feb 23 11:13:55 <mircea_popescu>	(not that i'd expect anyone on the list is actually foregoing lucrative public contracts for the sake of principles or w/e)
Feb 23 11:17:47 <Bugpowder>	seen this?
Feb 23 11:17:48 <Bugpowder>	http://www.debuggex.com/?re=&str=
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Feb 23 11:20:28 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, that should be useful
Feb 23 11:21:04 <pigeons>	yeah thanks
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Feb 23 11:21:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 378 @ 0.01 = 3.78 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 11:28:22 <Bugpowder>	fucin bounce
Feb 23 11:28:25 <Bugpowder>	dam
Feb 23 11:28:38 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 23 11:28:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.15200, Best ask: 28.30998, Bid-ask spread: 0.15798, Last trade: 28.30998, 24 hour volume: 80339.52109371, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.52515
Feb 23 11:28:46 <Bugpowder>	is gonna happen
Feb 23 11:28:54 <Bugpowder>	asks thinnning
Feb 23 11:29:17 <Bugpowder>	I hate the investment strategy that requires everyone to panic
Feb 23 11:33:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 509 @ 0.00063471 = 0.3231 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:33:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4191 @ 0.00063471 = 2.6601 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:33:38 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Feb 23 11:33:43 <thestringpuller>	I hate the investment strategy that requires everyone to panic
Feb 23 11:33:46 <thestringpuller>	I LOVE IT
Feb 23 11:33:56 <thestringpuller>	That's the perfect sentiment for how bitcoin investors operate
Feb 23 11:34:05 <thestringpuller>	the only market that panic buys
Feb 23 11:34:18 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 23 11:34:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.16751, Best ask: 28.29999, Bid-ask spread: 0.13248, Last trade: 28.16751, 24 hour volume: 80116.02261659, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.51952
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Feb 23 11:47:51 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: The two possibly largest suppliers of small arms to U.S. agencies - Colt and Glock - are nowhere to be found on the list. To no one's surprise.
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Feb 23 11:49:30 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform us agencies = federal
Feb 23 11:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	this'd be state.
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Feb 23 11:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063832 = 2.7582 BTC [+]
Feb 23 11:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1279 @ 0.00063853 = 0.8167 BTC [+]
Feb 23 11:53:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.622 = 6.22 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:53:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.621 = 6.21 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:53:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.62 = 1.24 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:54:53 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I meant both, of course.
Feb 23 11:55:33 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: Glock alone has >50% market share among U.S. police of all kinds.
Feb 23 11:56:12 <mircea_popescu>	aha
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Feb 23 11:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063626 = 2.7493 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00063619 = 5.1531 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 890 @ 0.00063471 = 0.5649 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4039 @ 0.00063444 = 2.5625 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:56:56 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 23 11:56:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.24443, Best ask: 28.43465, Bid-ask spread: 0.19022, Last trade: 28.24442, 24 hour volume: 80579.39466103, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.48633
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Feb 23 11:59:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 684 @ 0.00063444 = 0.434 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4039 @ 0.00063428 = 2.5619 BTC [-]
Feb 23 11:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1677 @ 0.00063374 = 1.0628 BTC [-]
Feb 23 12:02:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 23 12:02:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.43464, Best ask: 28.43465, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 28.43464, 24 hour volume: 79869.13925499, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.46619
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Feb 23 12:03:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.619 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 12:15:03 <Bugpowder>	askwall
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Feb 23 12:16:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00590803 = 7.9758 BTC [-]
Feb 23 12:16:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 528 @ 0.00593273 = 3.1325 BTC [+]
Feb 23 12:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0060899 = 0.609 BTC [+]
Feb 23 12:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 68022 @ 0.00609 = 414.254 BTC [+]
Feb 23 12:17:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006382 = 2.7577 BTC [+]
Feb 23 12:17:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11379 @ 0.00063853 = 7.2658 BTC [+]
Feb 23 12:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3273 @ 0.00063396 = 2.075 BTC [-]
Feb 23 12:25:35 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: what was the per share payout of mpoe ?
Feb 23 12:26:05 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 489.9/500000000
Feb 23 12:26:05 <gribble>	9.798e-07
Feb 23 12:26:16 <Bugpowder>	98 satoshi per share!
Feb 23 12:28:23 <Ukto>	correct me if I AM WRONG.. 98 - 5% = 93.1
Feb 23 12:28:36 <Ukto>	stupid caps
Feb 23 12:28:54 <Bugpowder>	close enuf
Feb 23 12:28:58 <Bugpowder>	i mean
Feb 23 12:29:03 <Bugpowder>	can't do .1 satoshi
Feb 23 12:29:13 <Ukto>	;;calc 465.405/500000000
Feb 23 12:29:13 <gribble>	9.3081e-07
Feb 23 12:29:34 <Ukto>	even .1 is high
Feb 23 12:33:52 <Bugpowder>	:(
Feb 23 12:33:57 <Bugpowder>	ask wall eaten
Feb 23 12:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	like 98 ya
Feb 23 12:35:35 <Ukto>	i msut admit.. the div payout seems awfully low compared to the share trading price
Feb 23 12:36:03 <Bugpowder>	disasterrrrr
Feb 23 12:44:57 <Bugpowder>	sigh
Feb 23 12:51:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00063843 = 5.8416 BTC [+]
Feb 23 12:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00063843 = 4.7244 BTC [+]
Feb 23 12:58:21 <kakobrekla>	eh is ok.
Feb 23 12:58:30 <kakobrekla>	above 27 is ok
Feb 23 12:58:54 <kakobrekla>	thats the old resistance
Feb 23 12:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00063843 = 0.9257 BTC [+]
Feb 23 12:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1048 @ 0.00063375 = 0.6642 BTC [-]
Feb 23 12:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8973 @ 0.00063374 = 5.6865 BTC [-]
Feb 23 12:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1029 @ 0.0006331 = 0.6515 BTC [-]
Feb 23 13:02:23 <Bugpowder>	kakobrekla: up is a disaster.  down is bliss
Feb 23 13:02:46 <kakobrekla>	flip your screen vertically
Feb 23 13:02:54 <Bugpowder>	asks disappearing
Feb 23 13:02:57 <Bugpowder>	fuck
Feb 23 13:03:31 <kakobrekla>	its bullish
Feb 23 13:03:35 <kakobrekla>	if you havent noticed
Feb 23 13:03:38 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 23 13:04:52 <Bugpowder>	I know
Feb 23 13:04:53 <Bugpowder>	i know
Feb 23 13:05:24 <Bugpowder>	need another dump by 3AM UTC
Feb 23 13:06:56 <kakobrekla>	i think we are seeing different mentalitly people comming in
Feb 23 13:07:02 <kakobrekla>	more mature
Feb 23 13:07:21 <kakobrekla>	sheep will lose their coins sooner or later
Feb 23 13:07:44 <Bugpowder>	more mature?
Feb 23 13:07:47 <Bugpowder>	reddit is coming in
Feb 23 13:07:52 <Bugpowder>	the discourse is not mature
Feb 23 13:08:03 <kakobrekla>	reddit and their 18$ bucks
Feb 23 13:08:18 <kakobrekla>	has nothing to do with it
Feb 23 13:08:20 <Bugpowder>	the coinbase crew is coming in
Feb 23 13:08:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 448 @ 0.00609 = 2.7283 BTC [+]
Feb 23 13:08:39 <kakobrekla>	i wrote dollars twice
Feb 23 13:08:42 <kakobrekla>	what an idiot.
Feb 23 13:08:52 <kakobrekla>	dollar bucks.
Feb 23 13:12:38 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 23 13:12:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.15001, Best ask: 29.26900, Bid-ask spread: 0.11899, Last trade: 29.10100, 24 hour volume: 82416.42897067, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.24800, 24 hour vwap: 29.38030
Feb 23 13:12:47 <thestringpuller>	back up lol
Feb 23 13:13:02 <Bugpowder>	not for long
Feb 23 13:13:08 <Bugpowder>	supercrash
Feb 23 13:13:08 <thestringpuller>	sell now!
Feb 23 13:13:10 <Bugpowder>	is coming!
Feb 23 13:13:19 <thestringpuller>	I supercrash really coming or are you
Feb 23 13:13:22 <thestringpuller>	just saying that?
Feb 23 13:13:38 <Bugpowder>	how should I know?
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Feb 23 13:13:59 <thestringpuller>	you're a neuroscientist
Feb 23 13:14:02 <thestringpuller>	you know everything
Feb 23 13:16:21 <Bugpowder>	I know nothing
Feb 23 13:16:25 <Bugpowder>	I am terrible at this
Feb 23 13:16:37 <thestringpuller>	Socratic words my friend.
Feb 23 13:16:45 <thestringpuller>	that means you are truly the smartest here!
Feb 23 13:18:04 <Bugpowder>	not in finance
Feb 23 13:18:27 <Bugpowder>	MP definitely has me beat in finance, and some other people here probably do too
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Feb 23 13:34:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1647 @ 0.0006331 = 1.0427 BTC [-]
Feb 23 13:35:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 23 13:35:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.21001, Best ask: 29.27993, Bid-ask spread: 0.06992, Last trade: 29.27995, 24 hour volume: 82034.99855450, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.24800, 24 hour vwap: 29.36607
Feb 23 13:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	omg it crashed to 29!!1
Feb 23 13:35:48 <thestringpuller>	it crashed to 28....
Feb 23 13:35:54 <thestringpuller>	now it's goin back up
Feb 23 13:36:05 <mircea_popescu>	im just messing with bugpowda
Feb 23 13:36:18 <thestringpuller>	and cream chowda
Feb 23 13:36:21 <thestringpuller>	let em holla
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Feb 23 13:36:49 <Bugpowder>	don't discourage your customers
Feb 23 13:37:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1824 @ 0.0006331 = 1.1548 BTC [-]
Feb 23 13:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8176 @ 0.00063292 = 5.1748 BTC [-]
Feb 23 13:38:42 *	BitHub sold his house before to cover his losses, panic over.
Feb 23 13:40:36 <thestringpuller>	I hope MPOE crashes this spring and that better gets a ton of money
Feb 23 13:40:41 <thestringpuller>	not really that's mean
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Feb 23 13:49:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 942 @ 0.00063853 = 0.6015 BTC [+]
Feb 23 13:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063953 = 2.7634 BTC [+]
Feb 23 13:49:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 337 @ 0.00063953 = 0.2155 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 13:58:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063926 = 2.7622 BTC [-]
Feb 23 13:58:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1579 @ 0.00063953 = 1.0098 BTC [+]
Feb 23 13:59:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 50 @ 0.00429 = 0.2145 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 14:04:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.43999 BTC [+]
Feb 23 14:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063456 = 2.7419 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3673 @ 0.00063432 = 2.3299 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063453 = 2.7418 BTC [+]
Feb 23 14:07:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063432 = 2.7409 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:07:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2908 @ 0.00063431 = 1.8446 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:07:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 381 @ 0.00595585 = 2.2692 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1187 @ 0.00595585 = 7.0696 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00063431 = 9.8952 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:18:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 381 @ 0.00596 = 2.2708 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 14:25:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063431 = 3.9962 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 14:29:04 <Bugpowder>	time to go back down
Feb 23 14:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063925 = 2.7622 BTC [+]
Feb 23 14:30:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11135 @ 0.00063953 = 7.1212 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 14:38:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08826 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 14:41:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.091 BTC [+]
Feb 23 14:41:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006394 = 2.7628 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:41:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2949 @ 0.00063953 = 1.886 BTC [+]
Feb 23 14:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5980 @ 0.00063954 = 3.8244 BTC [+]
Feb 23 14:41:36 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 23 14:41:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.78395, Best ask: 28.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01605, Last trade: 28.80000, 24 hour volume: 81783.91072610, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 31.24800, 24 hour vwap: 29.32910
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Feb 23 14:46:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063951 = 2.7633 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:46:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10479 @ 0.00063954 = 6.7017 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 14:48:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00063954 = 9.3693 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 14:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2542 @ 0.00063431 = 1.6124 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:56:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063293 = 2.7349 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:56:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1287 @ 0.00063292 = 0.8146 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:58:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063315 = 2.7358 BTC [+]
Feb 23 14:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6537 @ 0.00063292 = 4.1374 BTC [-]
Feb 23 14:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12342 @ 0.00063291 = 7.8114 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 15:29:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5708 @ 0.00063291 = 3.6127 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:29:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063269 = 2.7339 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:29:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063268 = 10.1229 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:29:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9221 @ 0.00063266 = 5.8338 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:37:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.0006356 = 7.6908 BTC [+]
Feb 23 15:37:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00063266 = 0.7908 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063664 = 2.7509 BTC [+]
Feb 23 15:40:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8929 @ 0.00063683 = 5.6863 BTC [+]
Feb 23 15:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2409 @ 0.00063266 = 1.5241 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:44:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00063069 = 1.7344 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:44:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063058 = 2.7247 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2263 @ 0.00063057 = 1.427 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:48:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2799 @ 0.00063037 = 1.7644 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:48:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15208 @ 0.00063036 = 9.5865 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4792 @ 0.00063036 = 3.0207 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3686 @ 0.00062981 = 2.3215 BTC [-]
Feb 23 15:54:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.00625 = 0.0188 BTC [+]
Feb 23 16:02:42 <jurov>	hello
Feb 23 16:03:24 <jurov>	both main and backup data collection for live.coinbr failed and i was not around to fix
Feb 23 16:03:42 <jurov>	so i'll prolly have to scrap assbot output... what a day
Feb 23 16:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	how do they both fail ?!
Feb 23 16:04:46 <jurov>	rebooted the backup machine and it did not start
Feb 23 16:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	ouch.
Feb 23 16:05:28 <jurov>	and the main one just couldn't time out failed connections properly
Feb 23 16:05:34 <jurov>	it just hangs.. argh
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Feb 23 16:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	graph baldspot!
Feb 23 16:06:47 <jurov>	it underwent depilation
Feb 23 16:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.0006305 = 2.6166 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 16:10:31 <jurov>	<mircea_popescu> [02:59:30] jurov float = all shares! <<< and dividend IS reported only for "outstanding shares", not all shares
Feb 23 16:10:42 <jurov>	S.MPOE paid a total dividend of 489.94443185 BTC to 500`000`000 outstanding shares.
Feb 23 16:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	a that's what you meant
Feb 23 16:11:21 <jurov>	but as namworld used the number for all shares, he got correct outcome
Feb 23 16:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	i gotta sort this out somehow so people stop thinking the 50% owned by owner is not part of the float.
Feb 23 16:11:40 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea why they even think that.
Feb 23 16:12:12 <jurov>	i have it meticulously documented here and always consult it when forwarding divs
Feb 23 16:12:31 <Bugpowder>	I think its because it is not listed anywhere on the asset page
Feb 23 16:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	(a)Mircea Popescu has elected to divide MPOE/MPEx into 1`000`000`000 (one billion) equal non-voting shares.
Feb 23 16:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	like that ?
Feb 23 16:12:59 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 23 16:13:08 <Bugpowder>	and then the dividend pays out to 500,000,000
Feb 23 16:13:14 <Bugpowder>	which is not indicated
Feb 23 16:14:04 <Bugpowder>	people need an easy way to cross reference the dividend number with the total # of shares it was paid to
Feb 23 16:14:11 <Bugpowder>	I didn't get it until I asked
Feb 23 16:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Feb 23 16:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00062981 = 4.3457 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 16:24:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.62 = 1.24 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 16:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 505 @ 0.00062981 = 0.3181 BTC [-]
Feb 23 16:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6424 @ 0.00062869 = 4.0387 BTC [-]
Feb 23 16:28:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2180 @ 0.00062862 = 1.3704 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 16:34:20 <thestringpuller>	ls
Feb 23 16:34:24 <thestringpuller>	cd ../
Feb 23 16:34:32 <benkay>	sudo rm -rf
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Feb 23 16:37:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4370 @ 0.00062862 = 2.7471 BTC [-]
Feb 23 16:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6630 @ 0.00062859 = 4.1676 BTC [-]
Feb 23 16:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MPOE how about now ?
Feb 23 16:41:13 <Bugpowder>	excellent
Feb 23 16:41:27 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 520 * 12
Feb 23 16:41:27 <gribble>	6240
Feb 23 16:42:31 <Bowjob>	diiiiiiiiiice
Feb 23 16:43:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00062859 = 3.363 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 16:44:40 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Feb 23 16:44:41 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00572194 / 0.00606379 / 0.00609 (78687 shares, 477.14 BTC), 7D: 0.00562811 / 0.006341 / 0.0069 (1385823 shares, 8,787.51 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00610597 / 0.0075 (7129155 shares, 43,530.42 BTC)
Feb 23 16:45:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 546 @ 0.0060566 = 3.3069 BTC [+]
Feb 23 16:45:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00609796 = 12.1959 BTC [+]
Feb 23 16:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.0061902 = 8.3568 BTC [+]
Feb 23 16:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	cool!
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Feb 23 16:51:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 16:53:39 <jurov>	:%s/^\[\([^]]*\)\] \+\[\([^]]*\)\] \+\[MPEX\] \+\[\([^]]*\)\] \([0-9]\+\) @ \([0-9.]\+\).*$/ ('\1 \2+01', '\3', \4, \5*100000000),/
Feb 23 16:53:56 <jurov>	live.coinbr. replenished (using above monstrosity)
Feb 23 16:54:17 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Feb 23 16:54:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00341 BTC [-]
Feb 23 16:55:35 *	mircea_popescu debugs it
Feb 23 16:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	"Backreferences are not (yet) supported"
Feb 23 16:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	FAIL
Feb 23 16:56:19 <jurov>	use vim
Feb 23 16:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	no i wanted to test that siter
Feb 23 16:56:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.debuggex.com/
Feb 23 16:57:13 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Feb 23 16:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i propose that regex as the new nick of imsaguy
Feb 23 16:57:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.60000, Best ask: 29.63679, Bid-ask spread: 0.03679, Last trade: 29.78900, 24 hour volume: 73211.72072907, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 30.84990, 24 hour vwap: 29.10116
Feb 23 16:57:26 <kakobrekla>	someone is buying or clarkmoodys fucked
Feb 23 16:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	we're crashing upwards.
Feb 23 16:57:50 <kakobrekla>	AGAIN!
Feb 23 17:00:33 <kakobrekla>	this is going nicley
Feb 23 17:00:33 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146319.0
Feb 23 17:00:35 <kakobrekla>	heh
Feb 23 17:02:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 270 @ 0.00638996 = 1.7253 BTC [+]
Feb 23 17:04:34 <Bugpowder>	fuc dis
Feb 23 17:05:04 <kakobrekla>	dont be mad
Feb 23 17:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 23 17:05:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.80000, Best ask: 29.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 29.95000, 24 hour volume: 73970.87061214, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 30.83916, 24 hour vwap: 29.10751
Feb 23 17:05:39 <Bowjob>	hey mp
Feb 23 17:05:40 <kakobrekla>	if you wanna trade you will always have drawdown
Feb 23 17:05:57 <Bowjob>	how does bitbet make money??? apart from that 1% fee and the advertising income?
Feb 23 17:06:07 <kakobrekla>	we print it
Feb 23 17:06:16 <Bowjob>	duh, but how else
Feb 23 17:06:27 <kakobrekla>	scams
Feb 23 17:07:01 <Bowjob>	okay, sounds good. ^^ just the average btc site then
Feb 23 17:07:21 <kakobrekla>	well, its listed, so its above avg. :p
Feb 23 17:08:12 <Bowjob>	above average scam site ? :P
Feb 23 17:08:34 <Bowjob>	its got the got milk slogan at least
Feb 23 17:08:42 <Bugpowder>	The options values are up a lot.  Just you know... can't exit without paying the tollbooth
Feb 23 17:09:10 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146243.msg1553949#new
Feb 23 17:09:12 <Bowjob>	this kid..
Feb 23 17:10:46 <Bowjob>	I feel bad for egging him now.. he might as well go with my suggestion.. >_>
Feb 23 17:13:26 <jurov>	Bowjob, there's a home bet, too.
Feb 23 17:14:06 <jurov>	but i'm now curious if they profited or lost on them
Feb 23 17:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3265 @ 0.00062859 = 2.0523 BTC [-]
Feb 23 17:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00062858 = 8.7373 BTC [-]
Feb 23 17:15:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1385 @ 0.00062752 = 0.8691 BTC [-]
Feb 23 17:15:40 <Bowjob>	home bet?
Feb 23 17:15:57 <jurov>	and you're not using red here. it's suspicious.
Feb 23 17:16:10 <Bowjob>	??
Feb 23 17:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob well that'd be it.
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Feb 23 17:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i think it was a slight loss in january
Feb 23 17:17:21 <mircea_popescu>	but overall should come roughly 0.05 btc per bet as a net loss
Feb 23 17:17:32 <jurov>	bowjob the first small bet everywhere is from bitbet itself
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Feb 23 17:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00062807 = 3.9882 BTC [+]
Feb 23 17:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 863 @ 0.00062752 = 0.5415 BTC [-]
Feb 23 17:21:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8037 @ 0.00062731 = 5.0417 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 17:27:18 <thestringpuller>	;;google woolong
Feb 23 17:27:19 <gribble>	Woolong - Cowboy Bebop Wiki: <http://cowboybebop.wikia.com/wiki/Woolong>; Urban Dictionary: woolong: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woolong>; A Fistful of Woolongs by *ninjaink on deviantART: <http://ninjaink.deviantart.com/art/A-Fistful-of-Woolongs-251446506>
Feb 23 17:28:56 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: I think your S.DICE per share numbers are off by a factor of 10.
Feb 23 17:29:14 <Bugpowder>	dividend per share should have been 20,000 satoshi last month
Feb 23 17:29:17 <Bugpowder>	right/
Feb 23 17:29:18 <Bugpowder>	?
Feb 23 17:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	looking
Feb 23 17:30:11 <mircea_popescu>	last month it made 20k btcs rght ?
Feb 23 17:30:17 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 23 17:30:20 <Bugpowder>	2000 div
Feb 23 17:30:25 <Bugpowder>	to 10,00,000 shares
Feb 23 17:30:40 <Bugpowder>	2000 to 10,000,000
Feb 23 17:30:54 <maximian>	yeah I calculate 20,000 satoshis per share
Feb 23 17:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	you know what you're right.
Feb 23 17:32:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2730 @ 0.00638996 = 17.4446 BTC [+]
Feb 23 17:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	fixed.
Feb 23 17:32:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 30994 @ 0.00638999 = 198.0514 BTC [+]
Feb 23 17:32:47 <Bowjob>	too many damn zeros
Feb 23 17:32:52 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 23 17:35:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [+]
Feb 23 17:36:56 <Bowjob>	I think we should use scientific notation to prevent the counting of zeroes
Feb 23 17:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00063049 = 2.522 BTC [+]
Feb 23 17:37:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4357 @ 0.0006305 = 2.7471 BTC [+]
Feb 23 17:37:27 <Bugpowder>	new whale?   same betting pattern...
Feb 23 17:37:28 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/address/12Gsb2qQA8ycGWchDxZ3XwbDcT5jUUzTwX
Feb 23 17:37:54 <Bowjob>	0.00063049 is 6.3 x 10^-4
Feb 23 17:38:13 <Bowjob>	thats better than trying to count zeroes to make sure theres no fat finger
Feb 23 17:40:54 <jurov>	or use uBTC like i said yest
Feb 23 17:41:08 <jurov>	0.00063049 is 630.49 uBTC
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Feb 23 17:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00607385 = 12.1477 BTC [-]
Feb 23 17:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00607384 = 9.7181 BTC [-]
Feb 23 17:50:21 <Bugpowder>	what happened to the crash up?
Feb 23 17:50:34 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Feb 23 17:50:34 <assbot>	It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
Feb 23 17:50:44 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 23 17:50:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.56449, Best ask: 29.77000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20551, Last trade: 29.56445, 24 hour volume: 72285.84680059, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 30.68990, 24 hour vwap: 29.06726
Feb 23 17:50:48 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Feb 23 17:50:52 <Diablo-D3>	I guess I sold out at the right time
Feb 23 17:51:01 <Bugpowder>	don't be so sure
Feb 23 17:51:19 <Diablo-D3>	Im not, because I sold out early to make the price jump to 60
Feb 23 17:51:26 <Diablo-D3>	I guess I failed :<
Feb 23 17:51:34 <Bugpowder>	I am panicked about this bounce back
Feb 23 17:52:17 <Bugpowder>	four more hours till 24hprc starts going up again
Feb 23 17:52:24 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 23 17:52:25 <gribble>	29.01
Feb 23 17:52:36 <Diablo-D3>	or not
Feb 23 17:54:18 <Bugpowder>	I am a believer in S.DICE again.
Feb 23 17:54:36 <Bugpowder>	another set of addresses with 5k in them showed up today and started betting like crazy
Feb 23 17:54:45 <Diablo-D3>	Im not
Feb 23 17:54:51 <Diablo-D3>	Im waiting for the government to crash that party
Feb 23 17:54:56 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 23 17:55:00 <Diablo-D3>	illegal ventures never succeed in the long run
Feb 23 17:55:01 <Bugpowder>	that is the other issue
Feb 23 17:55:05 <Bugpowder>	LOL
Feb 23 17:55:07 <Bowjob>	I justs pulled my sell orders at havelock
Feb 23 17:55:08 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 23 17:55:13 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, unless you're the government
Feb 23 17:55:30 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 17:55:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.56461, Best ask: 29.77979, Bid-ask spread: 0.21518, Last trade: 29.56461, 24 hour volume: 72197.98090640, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 30.68990, 24 hour vwap: 29.06509
Feb 23 17:55:38 <Bowjob>	yeah we are crashing up, give it some time'
Feb 23 17:55:45 <Bowjob>	its a bear trap
Feb 23 17:55:45 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 23 17:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	actually, it is ONLY the illegal ventures that succeed in the long run
Feb 23 17:56:10 <Bowjob>	weekend dip is halway done
Feb 23 17:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	any government failed
Feb 23 17:56:19 <Bugpowder>	I'm predicting 14,000 BTC profit for S.DICE now
Feb 23 17:56:20 <mircea_popescu>	prostitution is still here, drugs are still here, murder is still here.
Feb 23 17:56:24 <Bugpowder>	raising it
Feb 23 17:56:29 <Bowjob>	if you check the fiat values
Feb 23 17:56:45 <Bowjob>	.. 14k BTC is better than january's 20k?
Feb 23 17:56:49 <Bugpowder>	fiat values are irrelevant for us
Feb 23 17:57:02 <Bowjob>	i guess we did pay a lot for the shares
Feb 23 17:57:24 <Bugpowder>	since we are trying to determine where to distribute a set of coins amongst several possible BTC options
Feb 23 18:06:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00998 BTC [+]
Feb 23 18:07:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.00999 = 0.0899 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 18:14:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.0006286 = 5.3431 BTC [-]
Feb 23 18:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1217 @ 0.00062859 = 0.765 BTC [-]
Feb 23 18:16:35 <jurov>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-E April now open. With my prediction of difficulty to stay < 9.5m ...
Feb 23 18:16:55 <jurov>	and MPBPT-E paid out 4.8%
Feb 23 18:18:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00062859 = 1.9486 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 18:22:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00063049 = 4.0982 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 18:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4 @ 0.00601184 = 0.024 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 18:46:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00063049 = 1.261 BTC [+]
Feb 23 18:46:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.0006305 = 1.198 BTC [+]
Feb 23 18:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6283 @ 0.00062859 = 3.9494 BTC [-]
Feb 23 18:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062732 = 2.5093 BTC [-]
Feb 23 18:50:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6963 @ 0.00062731 = 4.368 BTC [-]
Feb 23 18:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1254 @ 0.0006273 = 0.7866 BTC [-]
Feb 23 19:04:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4838 @ 0.0006305 = 3.0504 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2312 @ 0.00063051 = 1.4577 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:06:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C250N] 12 @ 0.48371589 = 5.8046 BTC
Feb 23 19:11:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16377 @ 0.00063051 = 10.3259 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:11:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.9199 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:15:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7662 @ 0.00063051 = 4.831 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2788 @ 0.00063072 = 1.7584 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 19:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6912 @ 0.00063072 = 4.3595 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00063119 = 6.9115 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:35:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00063309 = 3.4187 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:35:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2288 @ 0.00063364 = 1.4498 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0006273 = 3.3247 BTC [-]
Feb 23 19:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 23 19:39:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.60001, Best ask: 29.72382, Bid-ask spread: 0.12381, Last trade: 29.60001, 24 hour volume: 71818.38413877, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 30.68990, 24 hour vwap: 29.04099
Feb 23 19:40:10 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 23 19:40:12 <gribble>	28.95
Feb 23 19:41:05 <Bugpowder>	we haven't had 2 down days in a row since Jan 2nd
Feb 23 19:42:43 <swhitt>	;;bc,stats
Feb 23 19:42:45 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222780 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 995 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 22 hours, 59 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4318739.17584 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.28884
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Feb 23 19:50:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.00275 = 0.0055 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:50:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 98 @ 0.0028 = 0.2744 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3820 @ 0.00063364 = 2.4205 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:52:59 <Bowjob>	theres bird shit on my window
Feb 23 19:53:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.31997 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:54:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.31998 = 0.64 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:54:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 20 @ 0.32 = 6.4 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:54:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [+]
Feb 23 19:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3446 @ 0.0006273 = 2.1617 BTC [-]
Feb 23 19:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1073 @ 0.00062729 = 0.6731 BTC [-]
Feb 23 19:57:23 <pigeons>	you're welcome
Feb 23 19:57:30 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 23 19:57:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 121 @ 0.006 = 0.726 BTC [+]
Feb 23 20:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://blogs.friendlybeings.com/fun/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/deal-with-it-580x385.jpg
Feb 23 20:01:06 <Bowjob>	isnt bird shit supposed to be good luckt ho
Feb 23 20:05:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 242 @ 0.00063364 = 0.1533 BTC [+]
Feb 23 20:07:57 <Bowjob>	wtf.. XRP is worth something now?
Feb 23 20:09:25 <error4733>	less than a bird shit on a window
Feb 23 20:11:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 23 20:12:14 <Bowjob>	I have 100k XRP
Feb 23 20:12:17 <Bowjob>	waiting for parity
Feb 23 20:12:18 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 23 20:12:23 <Bowjob>	dollar parity
Feb 23 20:12:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7071 @ 0.00063683 = 4.503 BTC [+]
Feb 23 20:13:27 <error4733>	who give the 50K away ?
Feb 23 20:14:19 <Bowjob>	I shouldn't say this but..
Feb 23 20:14:24 <Bowjob>	I put my name twice..
Feb 23 20:14:37 <Bowjob>	first time I fucked up, and edited my post since
Feb 23 20:14:45 <Bowjob>	I wrote other than my address
Feb 23 20:14:51 <Bowjob>	the second dimt was in case i get skipped
Feb 23 20:15:01 <Bowjob>	thats how i ended with 100k lol
Feb 23 20:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Feb 23 20:15:14 <error4733>	Haha n1
Feb 23 20:15:24 <error4733>	nice story in 10 years
Feb 23 20:15:25 <Bowjob>	now they are doing 40k per user
Feb 23 20:15:28 <error4733>	or 20
Feb 23 20:15:28 <Bowjob>	Yes of course
Feb 23 20:15:29 <Bowjob>	!
Feb 23 20:15:35 <Bowjob>	heck make it 2
Feb 23 20:15:36 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 23 20:15:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.68 = 6.8 BTC [+]
Feb 23 20:15:46 <error4733>	2 months
Feb 23 20:16:02 <Bowjob>	well we're at 1.5 BTC per 50k xrp
Feb 23 20:16:11 <Bowjob>	.. maybe its a scam. maybe its not.
Feb 23 20:16:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.6809 = 12.9371 BTC [+]
Feb 23 20:16:42 <error4733>	said some pp on 2009 :)
Feb 23 20:17:42 <Bowjob>	i saw theymos selling 1000 btc per dollar
Feb 23 20:17:43 <Bowjob>	back then
Feb 23 20:17:44 <Bowjob>	for PP
Feb 23 20:19:59 <error4733>	WTF, i slept those years. miss the train ! live changing opportunity :/
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Feb 23 20:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	i;d have bought a million if i were around
Feb 23 20:23:59 <mircea_popescu>	sadly, some fuckwit had to write about assasination markets.
Feb 23 20:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	that added 6 months to the cooldown for btc in my case.
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Feb 23 20:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13336 @ 0.00063679 = 8.4922 BTC [-]
Feb 23 20:28:36 <error4733>	when do you bouht your first BTC mp ?
Feb 23 20:28:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 650 @ 0.006 = 3.9 BTC [+]
Feb 23 20:28:57 <error4733>	price, no date
Feb 23 20:29:22 <grubles>	Bowjob: 1.5 btc/50k xrp...where?
Feb 23 20:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	july 2011
Feb 23 20:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	bought 60 at 15ish
Feb 23 20:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	would have bought 1mn at 1/10 of a cent just as well.
Feb 23 20:30:01 <grubles>	sheeeit im an older bitcoiner than you mircea_popescu meheheh
Feb 23 20:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	many are, i'm relatively new.
Feb 23 20:30:35 <grubles>	n00b
Feb 23 20:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	actually i'd say most names you've heard of / have a reputation other than scammer were here before me.
Feb 23 20:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://blockchain.info/tx-index/1229255/d0aea3947509bba9eb9e953d84115979ee1bb8044ab16d15eda4c2aad9b90a34
Feb 23 20:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	actually there it is.
Feb 23 20:32:40 <error4733>	wow 18 month after you, i bought lower my first at 13,xx
Feb 23 20:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, i don't try to time it. i do capital allocation.
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Feb 23 20:34:58 <dust-otc>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146385.0
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Feb 23 20:35:25 <dust-otc>	i'll just leave this here
Feb 23 20:35:58 <Bowjob>	forums
Feb 23 20:36:11 <Bowjob>	I forgot where but I think DeadTerra is buying lots of XRP
Feb 23 20:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	dust-otc you using opera ?!
Feb 23 20:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	wait. waitwait. is this the same fuckwit with the swedish credit cooperative etc ?
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Feb 23 20:38:59 <dust-otc>	chrome
Feb 23 20:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. this bitcoininv kid is a pretty good source of funny.
Feb 23 20:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	"I admire the ambition and for this stage of his career he's obviously cleared the bar, but it's also good for him to learn that in the real world security isn't graded on a curve, and people with more time and experience than him have failed to secure Rails apps."
Feb 23 20:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	i like this quote.
Feb 23 20:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	people with more experience being = to absolutely anyone stupid enough to try.
Feb 23 20:45:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.43999 BTC [+]
Feb 23 20:45:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 20:57:51 <ThickAsThieves>	"Newest hybird Platform"
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Feb 23 21:11:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00063679 = 8.3419 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 21:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2372 @ 0.00063679 = 1.5105 BTC [-]
Feb 23 21:26:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063177 = 3.1589 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 21:44:40 <Bowjob>	ooh theres a new beheading vid from mexico
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Feb 23 21:47:47 <dub>	yawn, seen one you've seen em all
Feb 23 21:50:58 <Bowjob>	http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/los-zetas-beheading-three-members-gulf-cartel-nightmare-screams/
Feb 23 21:51:04 <Bowjob>	this one started screaming
Feb 23 21:51:10 <Bowjob>	them mexicans are getting better at it
Feb 23 21:53:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1 @ 0.00196487 BTC [-]
Feb 23 21:53:50 <dub>	<mircea_popescu> prostitution is still here, drugs are still here, murder is still here.
Feb 23 21:54:22 <dub>	prostitution is only illegal in cultural backwaters, drugs have only been illegal for 50 years, murder is perfectly legal when you call it war
Feb 23 21:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063373 = 2.7383 BTC [+]
Feb 23 21:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2321 @ 0.00063385 = 1.4712 BTC [+]
Feb 23 21:54:44 <mircea_popescu>	dub kinda my point now isnt it.
Feb 23 21:56:09 <Bowjob>	these mexicans are swimmig in money.. and yet their cameras arent good enough
Feb 23 21:56:35 <kakobrekla>	anyone wanna play with socket mpex trades datastream?
Feb 23 21:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	omg hax
Feb 23 21:58:08 <kakobrekla>	yeah i made this shit for sierra chart
Feb 23 21:59:52 <kakobrekla>	im gonna open up the protocol
Feb 23 21:59:58 <kakobrekla>	but it aint free.
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Feb 23 22:00:57 <kakobrekla>	well it is, for a while
Feb 23 22:02:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5507 @ 0.00063385 = 3.4906 BTC [+]
Feb 23 22:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063683 = 2.7517 BTC [+]
Feb 23 22:02:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7807 @ 0.00063684 = 4.9718 BTC [+]
Feb 23 22:03:10 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 23 22:03:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.59969, Best ask: 29.59996, Bid-ask spread: 0.00027, Last trade: 29.60000, 24 hour volume: 65078.39286134, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 29.97000, 24 hour vwap: 28.93830
Feb 23 22:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha isn't this shot great ? http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136167510323.jpg
Feb 23 22:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000632 = 2.7309 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4529 @ 0.00063177 = 2.8613 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1161 @ 0.00063684 = 0.7394 BTC [+]
Feb 23 22:08:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1239 @ 0.00063954 = 0.7924 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 22:19:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5228 @ 0.00063177 = 3.3029 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:19:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063055 = 2.7246 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:19:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54900 @ 0.00063054 = 34.6166 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:20:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7751 @ 0.00063028 = 4.8853 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 459 @ 0.00578722 = 2.6563 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 541 @ 0.00601184 = 3.2524 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 22:27:15 <Bicknellski>	<dub> prostitution is only illegal in cultural backwaters, drugs have only been illegal for 50 years, murder is perfectly legal when you call it war
Feb 23 22:27:26 <Bicknellski>	or when you call it National Security...
Feb 23 22:27:47 <Bicknellski>	and off people, your own citizens even, with drones.
Feb 23 22:28:54 <Bicknellski>	So much for the right to a fair trial or due process
Feb 23 22:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17148 @ 0.00063028 = 10.808 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:31:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 918 @ 0.00062729 = 0.5759 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062663 = 1.8172 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6534 @ 0.00062653 = 4.0937 BTC [-]
Feb 23 22:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1352 @ 0.00063954 = 0.8647 BTC [+]
Feb 23 22:39:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006402 = 2.7663 BTC [+]
Feb 23 22:39:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6948 @ 0.00064021 = 4.4482 BTC [+]
Feb 23 22:51:24 <ThickAsThieves>	http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57570925-38/need-bitcoins-this-atm-takes-dollars-and-funds-your-account/
Feb 23 22:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool
Feb 23 22:56:08 <kakobrekla>	i was thinking simmilar
Feb 23 22:56:10 <kakobrekla>	but
Feb 23 22:56:15 <kakobrekla>	not for bills
Feb 23 22:56:18 <kakobrekla>	for coins
Feb 23 22:56:22 <kakobrekla>	cause i fuckin hate coins
Feb 23 22:56:33 <kakobrekla>	so if this would be around
Feb 23 22:56:37 <kakobrekla>	id just throw them in
Feb 23 22:56:43 <kakobrekla>	this doesnt have a coin hole
Feb 23 22:56:45 <kakobrekla>	:(
Feb 23 22:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	nobody wants coins anymore.
Feb 23 22:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	i haven't accepted coins since at least 1999
Feb 23 22:57:36 <kakobrekla>	what changed then?
Feb 23 22:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	i got tired of having to buy new pants cause my pockets were broken
Feb 23 22:59:17 <kakobrekla>	meh
Feb 23 22:59:24 <kakobrekla>	i have a ton of coins at home
Feb 23 22:59:33 <kakobrekla>	they take em at the bank
Feb 23 22:59:37 <kakobrekla>	the problem is
Feb 23 22:59:48 <kakobrekla>	that bitch somehow always manages to take 30min of my time
Feb 23 22:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Feb 23 22:59:55 <kakobrekla>	witch upselling
Feb 23 23:00:00 <kakobrekla>	and shit
Feb 23 23:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	the largest coin here is half a leu which is a 6th of a dollar.
Feb 23 23:00:14 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck wants a 6th of a dollar ?
Feb 23 23:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	gimme a hundred ty
Feb 23 23:00:17 <kakobrekla>	we have 2 euro here
Feb 23 23:00:34 <kakobrekla>	thats like 0.1 btc
Feb 23 23:00:38 <kakobrekla>	can be useful
Feb 23 23:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	maybe the girl likes you
Feb 23 23:00:56 <kakobrekla>	yeah well its too late for that now
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Feb 23 23:01:07 <mircea_popescu>	it's never too late for a girl to like you lol
Feb 23 23:01:26 <kakobrekla>	she can like me by not upselling.
Feb 23 23:01:33 <kakobrekla>	everyone knows its anal.
Feb 23 23:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	girls are weird like that
Feb 23 23:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	they like guys the wrong ways all teh time
Feb 23 23:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	or so i read somewhere.
Feb 23 23:02:26 <kakobrekla>	anyway im gonna send my bitch inthere
Feb 23 23:02:30 <kakobrekla>	to get rid of those coins
Feb 23 23:02:34 <kakobrekla>	lets see how long that takes
Feb 23 23:02:45 <mircea_popescu>	maybe she ends up with a new girlfriend.
Feb 23 23:02:56 <mircea_popescu>	they end up exchanging stories about you
Feb 23 23:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	advice, shit like that.
Feb 23 23:03:05 <kakobrekla>	well, what can i say, i trully wouldnt be suprised.
Feb 23 23:03:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00063662 = 5.0293 BTC [-]
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Feb 23 23:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00063662 = 2.5465 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:10:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 23 23:10:17 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222800 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 975 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 23 hours, 33 minutes, and 29 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4302700.40448 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.84954
Feb 23 23:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00063662 = 7.5121 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:10:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5202 @ 0.00064021 = 3.3304 BTC [+]
Feb 23 23:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15420 @ 0.00064162 = 9.8938 BTC [+]
Feb 23 23:11:25 <Bicknellski>	Difficult be jumpin g
Feb 23 23:11:29 <Bicknellski>	... sheesh
Feb 23 23:11:34 <Bicknellski>	good by FPGA...
Feb 23 23:11:39 <Bicknellski>	bye....*
Feb 23 23:12:01 <Bicknellski>	The window will close on them fast right?
Feb 23 23:12:15 <Bicknellski>	altcoins probably going to get a bump
Feb 23 23:15:04 <Bowjob>	novacoin is quite profitable to mine right now
Feb 23 23:16:54 <Bicknellski>	Ya I hear
Feb 23 23:17:03 <Bicknellski>	even with all the blow back
Feb 23 23:17:10 <Bicknellski>	scam coin shouting etc
Feb 23 23:18:23 <Bicknellski>	I am keen on the altcoins because of mircea_popescu's evaluation of the limited uses for Bitcoin as a useable currency
Feb 23 23:19:19 <Bicknellski>	very well reasoned.
Feb 23 23:22:19 <ThickAsThieves>	have you tried mining it?
Feb 23 23:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00064148 = 1.5716 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:23:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i know the exchange rate is high but I think the diff is obnoxiously high and it takes like 520 confirms for payout
Feb 23 23:23:42 <ThickAsThieves>	that and it being a scam coin
Feb 23 23:26:07 <grubles>	what is the exchange rate
Feb 23 23:26:24 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert nvc
Feb 23 23:26:24 <gribble>	1 BTC = Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
Feb 23 23:26:27 <kakobrekla>	meh
Feb 23 23:26:30 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert milk
Feb 23 23:26:31 <gribble>	1 BTC = Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
Feb 23 23:26:33 <kakobrekla>	fu
Feb 23 23:27:04 <ThickAsThieves>	.02022 currently
Feb 23 23:27:13 <grubles>	per btc?
Feb 23 23:27:42 <ThickAsThieves>	NVC/USD
Feb 23 23:27:48 <ThickAsThieves>	sry
Feb 23 23:27:54 <ThickAsThieves>	NVC/BTC
Feb 23 23:28:43 <ThickAsThieves>	which is ridic
Feb 23 23:28:55 <ThickAsThieves>	considering it's only purpose is to mine it
Feb 23 23:29:08 <ThickAsThieves>	and then have the rug pulled out at some point
Feb 23 23:29:53 <ThickAsThieves>	i don't understand who is buying NVC
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Feb 23 23:32:49 <Bowjob>	its a pump and dump coin
Feb 23 23:32:55 <Bowjob>	but.. might as well ride it for a bit
Feb 23 23:35:31 <ThickAsThieves>	meh
Feb 23 23:36:21 <Bicknellski>	Ya ...
Feb 23 23:36:53 <Bicknellski>	But fun way to play with coin if you are new I guess... good training ground I think for BTC
Feb 23 23:37:34 <Bicknellski>	No not mining anything right now except Freicoin... but only on my desktop for a giggle.
Feb 23 23:38:11 <Bicknellski>	Thinking about getting a few FPGA's going till the difficulty / price of BTC makes them unprofitable then switch em over to altcoins...
Feb 23 23:38:53 <Bicknellski>	Trying to get a good deal on them ... the price of them is going to drop to 0 basically
Feb 23 23:39:39 <Bicknellski>	They pretty much losing value daily with every new ASIC coming online people should just hold on to them and ride them into the ground for every bitcoin now
Feb 23 23:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1871 @ 0.00064148 = 1.2002 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12730 @ 0.00064162 = 8.1678 BTC [+]
Feb 23 23:40:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 332 @ 0.00064195 = 0.2131 BTC [+]
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Feb 23 23:41:34 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146205.0
Feb 23 23:41:35 <Bowjob>	Wow
Feb 23 23:41:42 <Bowjob>	I thought the BTC gem was a bad idea
Feb 23 23:41:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064184 = 2.1181 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:42:49 <pigeons>	Bicknellski: at least the bfl's have trade-in value if there are bfls. i think you can trade in icarus fpgas for avalons
Feb 23 23:43:00 <pigeons>	so maybe we can get some good deals on some modminers
Feb 23 23:43:07 <Bicknellski>	Ya
Feb 23 23:43:15 <Bicknellski>	that be a smart move
Feb 23 23:43:22 <Bicknellski>	if you want to wait till July
Feb 23 23:43:24 <Bicknellski>	or later
Feb 23 23:43:33 <Bicknellski>	nearly impossible to get an avalon.
Feb 23 23:43:38 <Bicknellski>	lol so much demand
Feb 23 23:44:07 <Bicknellski>	and BFL? well by the time you get one... the difficulty going to push the ROI way back I think
Feb 23 23:44:37 <Bicknellski>	Too bad ASICs werent as easy as the FPGAs to make.
Feb 23 23:45:21 <Bicknellski>	Guessing that the asicminer is going to keep adding TH/s and grow...
Feb 23 23:45:33 <Bicknellski>	I think we are going to see concentration in mining...
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Feb 23 23:46:10 <Bicknellski>	it be great if asicminer were to sell something sooner than later to the public
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Feb 23 23:46:40 <Bowjob>	well BFL will have to wait till Avalon delivers their parts to them
Feb 23 23:46:47 <Bicknellski>	hahaha
Feb 23 23:46:50 <Bicknellski>	ya maybe
Feb 23 23:47:05 <Bowjob>	So might as well order from Avalon themselves
Feb 23 23:47:08 <Bicknellski>	It is amazing how they screwed themselves
Feb 23 23:47:30 <Bicknellski>	Never seen such a fubar operation as that
Feb 23 23:47:32 <Bowjob>	The pre order started screwing around after 60 seconds
Feb 23 23:47:39 <Bowjob>	when yifu launched no 2
Feb 23 23:47:41 <Bicknellski>	if you can actually believe the forums that is
Feb 23 23:47:51 <Bowjob>	you know the demand was there lol
Feb 23 23:48:09 <Bowjob>	I know it because I got a pre order before shit hits the fan again
Feb 23 23:48:32 <Bicknellski>	I think there is a tiny window to pick up an FPGA for me pay it off and then flip it on to altcoins
Feb 23 23:48:35 <Bicknellski>	that window is now
Feb 23 23:48:54 <Bicknellski>	just to get in the game... and then get out really.
Feb 23 23:49:16 <Bicknellski>	I am keen on using it for altcoins so I can have my students learn about cryptocurrencies
Feb 23 23:50:38 <Bicknellski>	I guess maybe what? 2 - 3 months max before the difficulty for 1.2 GH/s becomes too high in BTC
Feb 23 23:51:12 <Bicknellski>	about the same amount to pay off the used fpga units if priced right
Feb 23 23:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00064184 = 0.6553 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9179 @ 0.00064195 = 5.8925 BTC [+]
Feb 23 23:52:27 <Bicknellski>	I dont see any instablity in BTC price so far... couple of dips but it rebounded back to 30.
Feb 23 23:53:13 <Bowjob>	Bugpowder will get screwed if BTC doesn't drop in price
Feb 23 23:53:18 <Bowjob>	he bought puts last night
Feb 23 23:53:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063636 = 2.7497 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:53:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23112 @ 0.00063634 = 14.7071 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:57:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.68 = 6.8 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3888 @ 0.00063634 = 2.4741 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:59:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 762 @ 0.00062898 = 0.4793 BTC [-]
Feb 23 23:59:58 <Bicknellski>	ouch...
Feb 24 00:01:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.681 = 2.043 BTC [+]
Feb 24 00:04:11 <Bowjob>	now that dice is up people wanna get in again
Feb 24 00:04:11 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 24 00:04:24 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/30/qv/4zMSrJfU/mpoe.png
Feb 24 00:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3559 @ 0.00062898 = 2.2385 BTC [-]
Feb 24 00:05:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062897 = 3.9625 BTC [-]
Feb 24 00:05:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3491 @ 0.00062835 = 2.1936 BTC [-]
Feb 24 00:06:17 <Bicknellski>	pretty graph.
Feb 24 00:08:50 <kakobrekla>	might be broken a bit
Feb 24 00:10:22 <kakobrekla>	or not
Feb 24 00:10:42 <kakobrekla>	seems gox feed is makin same strange patterns
Feb 24 00:11:28 <kakobrekla>	yup
Feb 24 00:11:41 <kakobrekla>	is all about the scale.
Feb 24 00:15:09 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Feb 24 00:15:15 <kakobrekla>	hourly is much nicer
Feb 24 00:18:36 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Feb 24 00:18:42 <kakobrekla>	a few random clicks
Feb 24 00:18:43 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/2f/xF/41DI8TjX/mpoe.png
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Feb 24 00:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1 @ 0.00196487 BTC [-]
Feb 24 00:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00062955 = 6.2325 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 00:50:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00988 BTC [-]
Feb 24 00:51:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 7 @ 0.00341 = 0.0239 BTC [-]
Feb 24 00:52:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13259 @ 0.00062835 = 8.3313 BTC [-]
Feb 24 00:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00062828 = 6.1886 BTC [-]
Feb 24 00:52:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4891 @ 0.00062653 = 3.0644 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 01:17:56 <Namworld>	IDK why but I have a shared spreadsheet and no one can edit it =/
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Feb 24 01:20:04 <Namworld>	Too bad because I have an amazing options tool
Feb 24 01:22:49 <ThickAsThieves>	i noticed i couldnt copy the sheet either
Feb 24 01:29:49 <Namworld>	Oh, I see what was going on
Feb 24 01:29:51 <Namworld>	Fixed
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Feb 24 01:29:55 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGxfRk5SS0hxT1lsVmdLdU1QY0RveGc#gid=0
Feb 24 01:30:11 <Namworld>	You can change the value you expect the average price to go to.
Feb 24 01:30:37 <Namworld>	It calculates the most profit/BTC spent option available and all sorts of data.
Feb 24 01:30:49 <Namworld>	Includes MPEx's ask price on all options.
Feb 24 01:31:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00062869 = 3.2692 BTC [+]
Feb 24 01:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063318 = 2.736 BTC [+]
Feb 24 01:31:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8079 @ 0.0006334 = 5.1172 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 01:32:13 <Namworld>	Man, I love making tools...
Feb 24 01:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062679 = 2.7084 BTC [-]
Feb 24 01:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3929 @ 0.00062653 = 2.4616 BTC [-]
Feb 24 01:45:33 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 24 01:45:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.36001, Best ask: 29.48999, Bid-ask spread: 0.12998, Last trade: 29.36001, 24 hour volume: 44725.77590865, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 29.97000, 24 hour vwap: 28.91760
Feb 24 01:45:45 <Bowjob>	dumpo
Feb 24 01:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062688 = 2.7087 BTC [+]
Feb 24 01:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24279 @ 0.00062653 = 15.2115 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 01:56:32 <Namworld>	Anyone needs to buy some S.DICE/S.MPOE and requires a broker? I can do market price for my passthroughs anytime.
Feb 24 02:02:26 <BitHub>	where is your PT hosted?
Feb 24 02:02:48 <BitHub>	yourself? or the usualy suspects
Feb 24 02:05:29 <Namworld>	BTCT.co
Feb 24 02:06:03 <BitHub>	ahh okey, what do you think of that site? I was thinking to try it out.
Feb 24 02:07:00 <Namworld>	Well quite decent interface and features. Good API, issuers get a list of holders by mail every 12 hours.
Feb 24 02:08:38 <BitHub>	i like that broker service you're offering, thinking if i open accounts at all the main exchanges/PT if i can just charge a broker fee for australian newbs and business people looking to get into bitcoin but have no idea.
Feb 24 02:09:03 <BitHub>	hmmmm
Feb 24 02:09:30 <Namworld>	I'd avoid dealing in fiat/outside of those exchanges
Feb 24 02:09:47 <BitHub>	peeps could pay you in btc
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Feb 24 02:11:24 <Namworld>	Then I see no reason they can't use the exchanges.
Feb 24 02:11:24 <BitHub>	alot of friends n stuff been asking me lately about what i'm doing and upto and want to get into bitcoin and have been like "Hey mate, can you help me out and get me started on bitcoin and look after my wallet for me?
Feb 24 02:11:30 <BitHub>	i think there's value in that service
Feb 24 02:11:54 <Namworld>	There's also considerable risk. I prefer not to touch other's money too much.
Feb 24 02:12:23 <BitHub>	very true
Feb 24 02:13:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063088 = 10.0941 BTC [+]
Feb 24 02:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00063089 = 4.5424 BTC [+]
Feb 24 02:13:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063123 = 2.7275 BTC [+]
Feb 24 02:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00063123 = 11.1728 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 02:25:41 <Bicknellski>	What would you say is the best investment you can make at this time Namworld... MOPE?
Feb 24 02:26:53 <BitHub>	asicminer
Feb 24 02:27:00 <BitHub>	if you can find
Feb 24 02:27:03 <Bicknellski>	Comparatively speaking to say buying an Avalon...
Feb 24 02:27:13 <Bicknellski>	1500 USD into asic?
Feb 24 02:27:24 <Bicknellski>	ya... that been ok before people got all hot on it
Feb 24 02:27:37 <Bicknellski>	the auctions in the forums are nutz
Feb 24 02:27:40 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 24 02:27:42 <BitHub>	if you can still find sellers at .4
Feb 24 02:27:48 <BitHub>	i would snatch them up
Feb 24 02:27:54 <Bicknellski>	ya even that is no much of return
Feb 24 02:28:01 <BitHub>	i dont know about 1500 tho
Feb 24 02:28:03 <Bicknellski>	depending if BFL gets in soon
Feb 24 02:28:18 <BitHub>	i purchased some in M.MPOE the other day
Feb 24 02:28:22 <Bicknellski>	compare someone thinking Im going to buy 1500 miner
Feb 24 02:28:30 <Bicknellski>	theyd be way better off investing
Feb 24 02:28:34 <Bicknellski>	it in BTC.
Feb 24 02:28:55 <BitHub>	its way too late to think about preordering an avalon or BFL now
Feb 24 02:28:59 <Bicknellski>	or using a service like Namworld
Feb 24 02:29:05 <Bicknellski>	exactly
Feb 24 02:29:20 <Bicknellski>	... I bet it was too late 1st round for Avalon
Feb 24 02:29:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11079 @ 0.00063123 = 6.9934 BTC [+]
Feb 24 02:30:07 <Bicknellski>	you would have cleaned up just buying 1299 $ of BTC at 13.
Feb 24 02:30:15 <BitHub>	yeah
Feb 24 02:30:21 <BitHub>	sometimes that's just the easier option
Feb 24 02:30:32 <Bicknellski>	I want to diversify
Feb 24 02:30:38 <Bicknellski>	some in MPOE
Feb 24 02:30:42 <Bicknellski>	some in BTC
Feb 24 02:30:47 <BitHub>	well
Feb 24 02:30:51 <Bicknellski>	etc
Feb 24 02:30:53 <BitHub>	i'm not 100% advising this
Feb 24 02:31:02 <Bicknellski>	all info good...
Feb 24 02:31:10 <Bicknellski>	taking with grain of salt
Feb 24 02:31:23 <Bicknellski>	my own bad if I fuck up and lose it not yous
Feb 24 02:31:24 <BitHub>	but my portfolio is a bit of s.dice bit of b.bet alot of ASICMINER shares, and some MPOE shares
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Feb 24 02:31:42 <Bicknellski>	any TU silver?
Feb 24 02:31:48 <BitHub>	and some s.dice but i dont know if i would recomend buying any s.dice
Feb 24 02:31:49 <Bicknellski>	looks like it is taking a hit
Feb 24 02:31:51 <BitHub>	no TU silver
Feb 24 02:31:53 <Bicknellski>	with silver droping
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Feb 24 02:32:00 <Bicknellski>	might be cheap
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Feb 24 02:32:15 <BitHub>	i prefer to buy my silver directly for btc
Feb 24 02:32:29 <Bicknellski>	ya and hold real silver
Feb 24 02:32:34 <Bicknellski>	or like virtual
Feb 24 02:32:41 <Bicknellski>	esilver?
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Feb 24 02:33:24 <BitHub>	investing in miners or mining companies is bit risky atm
Feb 24 02:33:42 <Bicknellski>	Would be awesome to have banks allow btc accounts
Feb 24 02:33:44 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 24 02:34:00 <Bicknellski>	ya particularly those with orders in for avalon or bfl
Feb 24 02:34:12 <Bicknellski>	and heavy with fpga
Feb 24 02:34:21 <Namworld>	Bicknellski: probably S.DICE
Feb 24 02:34:34 <Bicknellski>	what about DD3 mining bond idea?
Feb 24 02:34:34 <Namworld>	S.MPOE has low dividends currently.
Feb 24 02:34:38 <Bicknellski>	hmmm
Feb 24 02:34:46 <BitHub>	hmmm s.dice really?
Feb 24 02:34:55 <BitHub>	i thought it was starting to die a lil
Feb 24 02:35:19 <Namworld>	slightly...
Feb 24 02:35:41 <Namworld>	It got up in the last month with 17k and 20k BTC profit
Feb 24 02:35:54 <BitHub>	ride the s.dice wave i guess
Feb 24 02:35:55 <Namworld>	This month is currently around 10k I think so price is going back down a bit.
Feb 24 02:36:37 <Namworld>	But we started with negative-5k profits
Feb 24 02:37:08 <Namworld>	depending on month
Feb 24 02:37:13 <Namworld>	It can vary a lot.
Feb 24 02:37:18 <Namworld>	Still quite good overall
Feb 24 02:37:23 <maximian>	I don't think it's fair to say that s.dice is dying. December and January were extraordinary months due to a single player (a whale) placing huge bets. February so far has had some mini-whale action, and so far is up 12,000 bitcoins in profit.
Feb 24 02:37:24 <Bicknellski>	MPOE.. was 9.9% last month?
Feb 24 02:37:28 <Bicknellski>	reported in Jan?
Feb 24 02:37:34 <Bicknellski>	what is going to be in Feb?
Feb 24 02:37:38 <Bicknellski>	any ideas?
Feb 24 02:38:05 <Bicknellski>	comparing that to S.Dic?
Feb 24 02:38:06 <maximian>	S.DICE is expected to pay around 0.00012 to 0.00014 BTC per share in dividends this month.
Feb 24 02:38:33 <maximian>	And, SatoshiDice betting volume is a strong as ever.
Feb 24 02:38:41 <maximian>	in terms of number of bets
Feb 24 02:38:50 <maximian>	so interest hasn't waned
Feb 24 02:39:49 <BitHub>	so you need about 10,000 shares to make about 1btc a month
Feb 24 02:40:34 <Namworld>	MPOE is like 0.15% this month
Feb 24 02:40:37 <maximian>	around there
Feb 24 02:40:48 <BitHub>	that's crazy
Feb 24 02:40:48 <Namworld>	not 9.9%?
Feb 24 02:40:58 <BitHub>	take you about 2 years to make your money back
Feb 24 02:40:58 <Bicknellski>	Oh
Feb 24 02:41:14 <BitHub>	doubt s.dice will be around for that long
Feb 24 02:41:18 <Bicknellski>	56btc to buy 10000 shares in S.Dice
Feb 24 02:41:20 <Bicknellski>	?
Feb 24 02:41:35 <BitHub>	and around 1btc a month back on that investment
Feb 24 02:41:46 <BitHub>	damn
Feb 24 02:41:49 <BitHub>	almost 4 years
Feb 24 02:41:55 <maximian>	2.3% monthly yield at current price
Feb 24 02:41:59 <Namworld>	Actually 4.6
Feb 24 02:42:09 <BitHub>	lul
Feb 24 02:42:19 <BitHub>	do you think s.dice will be around for 4.6 years?
Feb 24 02:42:20 <Namworld>	It's not bad.
Feb 24 02:42:41 <Namworld>	If BTC stays around, I think S.DICE will stay around.
Feb 24 02:42:45 <maximian>	it's a very good yield
Feb 24 02:42:48 <Bicknellski>	not like you can put your BTC in a bank and get interest
Feb 24 02:42:48 <BitHub>	that's insane tho
Feb 24 02:42:49 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 24 02:42:57 <Bicknellski>	less you want to lend it yourself...
Feb 24 02:43:02 <BitHub>	4.6 years
Feb 24 02:43:45 <maximian>	I think it will stick around… actually I think it will be sold to an established player
Feb 24 02:44:16 <maximian>	once the big casinos get around to looking at Bitcoin, they'll be looking for acquisitions
Feb 24 02:44:19 <Bicknellski>	what about mining difficulty...
Feb 24 02:44:43 <BitHub>	bithub.com.au is already in talks with JP morgan
Feb 24 02:44:46 <BitHub>	they want in
Feb 24 02:45:50 <Bicknellski>	CoinBr.iDiff
Feb 24 02:45:54 <Bicknellski>	and such.
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Feb 24 02:46:22 <BitHub>	i heard those are really good
Feb 24 02:46:27 <BitHub>	i dont really understand them myself
Feb 24 02:46:33 <Bicknellski>	I think with asics coming online
Feb 24 02:46:43 <Bicknellski>	the difficulty jump is pretty much assured to go up
Feb 24 02:46:57 <Bicknellski>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140608.0
Feb 24 02:58:23 <Bowjob>	guys
Feb 24 02:58:28 <Bowjob>	BFL got delayed again
Feb 24 02:58:29 <Bowjob>	:p;
Feb 24 02:58:31 <Bowjob>	Lol
Feb 24 02:58:32 <Bowjob>	Fuck
Feb 24 02:58:52 <Bowjob>	shoulda dropped 100 BTC on that bet
Feb 24 03:01:00 <Bicknellski>	link/
Feb 24 03:01:15 <Bicknellski>	how long is the delay this time?
Feb 24 03:03:56 <Namworld>	Till... next decade...
Feb 24 03:04:04 <Namworld>	Would be funny
Feb 24 03:06:18 <Bowjob>	Go Yifu Go!
Feb 24 03:06:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062722 = 2.7102 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:06:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6679 @ 0.00062713 = 4.1886 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:07:01 <Bowjob>	"Josh (Shoutbox) - their head around urgency. We literally gave them a blank check to have it done ASAP and they weren't able to do it."
Feb 24 03:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9321 @ 0.00062713 = 5.8455 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4229 @ 0.00062712 = 2.6521 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:16:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00625 = 0.625 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:17:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.39299 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:21:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.0028 = 0.0056 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:22:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00062712 = 8.0898 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:22:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.003 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:22:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.004 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 40 @ 0.00196487 = 0.0786 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:23:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.005 = 0.05 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:23:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.006 = 0.06 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:23:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00224 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:23:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 39 @ 0.0021 = 0.0819 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:24:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:26:06 <Namworld>	Who's buying BBET like a mad man...
Feb 24 03:29:04 <Bowjob>	See I'm still scrating my head
Feb 24 03:29:07 <Bowjob>	over bitbet
Feb 24 03:29:13 <Bowjob>	how can we make money off of it?
Feb 24 03:29:35 <Namworld>	Not much at a time. Everyone was surprised how high the prices went.
Feb 24 03:29:47 <Namworld>	Panic buy during IPO
Feb 24 03:29:56 <Bowjob>	how about now?
Feb 24 03:30:52 <Bowjob>	panic buy or sell.. is generally a bad idea
Feb 24 03:30:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 317 @ 0.00196487 = 0.6229 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:30:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 543 @ 0.00196488 = 1.0669 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:31:10 <Bowjob>	I got burnt 800 dollars in profit over it
Feb 24 03:31:16 <Bowjob>	it was pure profit but still
Feb 24 03:31:29 <Bowjob>	so I generally stay frosty
Feb 24 03:31:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 42 @ 0.00341 = 0.1432 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:31:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 125 @ 0.002 = 0.25 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:31:42 <Bowjob>	i woulda gotten burnt over the flash crashh
Feb 24 03:31:44 <Bowjob>	..
Feb 24 03:31:46 <Bowjob>	wtf is going on??
Feb 24 03:32:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00399 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:33:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 16 @ 0.0211 = 0.3376 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:33:29 <Namworld>	Someone buying stuff on BTCT.co apparently. Comes in waves of a few BTCs
Feb 24 03:33:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0403 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:33:45 <Namworld>	Ah, someone wanted gold too apparently.
Feb 24 03:33:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:34:00 <Bowjob>	I hope they know what they're doing
Feb 24 03:34:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:34:42 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/browse/
Feb 24 03:34:48 <Bowjob>	what happened to the giant bet
Feb 24 03:34:50 <Bowjob>	i dont see it
Feb 24 03:35:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
Feb 24 03:35:45 <Namworld>	You mean the one with BFL?
Feb 24 03:35:53 <Namworld>	It's closed now I think.
Feb 24 03:36:39 <Bowjob>	yes but i dont see it
Feb 24 03:36:40 <Bowjob>	anywhere
Feb 24 03:37:10 <Bowjob>	nvm found it
Feb 24 03:37:33 <Bicknellski>	where is the latest on BFL delay?
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Feb 24 03:39:09 <Bowjob>	someone dropped the ball on the bumping side
Feb 24 03:39:17 <Bowjob>	another 2 weeks until the next fuckup occurs
Feb 24 03:41:57 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-22/guest-post-worlds-biggest-gold-storage-company-dumps-us-citizens
Feb 24 03:45:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00578039 = 2.6012 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:48:30 <Bowjob>	065/1065	฿0.75000000	฿798.7500
Feb 24 03:48:34 <Bowjob>	jesus
Feb 24 03:56:27 <Namworld>	what?
Feb 24 03:57:05 <Bowjob>	1065 share wall on Satoshi Dice at 0.75
Feb 24 03:57:15 <Bowjob>	havelock
Feb 24 03:58:25 <Namworld>	oh
Feb 24 03:59:18 <maximian>	s.dice buying action will likely pick up in a few days
Feb 24 03:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5571 @ 0.00062712 = 3.4937 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:59:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4229 @ 0.00062663 = 2.65 BTC [-]
Feb 24 03:59:41 <maximian>	people will want to load up for the div payout
Feb 24 03:59:51 <Bowjob>	yes, i concur
Feb 24 04:00:44 <maximian>	selloff after div payout is usually pretty mild
Feb 24 04:01:18 <Bowjob>	wed be at 0.8s by now if erik didnt sell
Feb 24 04:01:26 <maximian>	I think so too.
Feb 24 04:01:42 <maximian>	That dump was very destabilizing
Feb 24 04:02:14 <Bowjob>	http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1116
Feb 24 04:02:18 <Bowjob>	why dont we bet here
Feb 24 04:02:24 <Bowjob>	we know bASIC wont ship
Feb 24 04:08:49 <Bowjob>	"Your current net worth is $17,144.47 as of Friday, February 22, 2013 "
Feb 24 04:08:53 <Bowjob>	Im broke
Feb 24 04:09:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 721 @ 0.00062663 = 0.4518 BTC [-]
Feb 24 04:09:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89 @ 0.00062653 = 0.0558 BTC [-]
Feb 24 04:09:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8423 @ 0.00062632 = 5.2755 BTC [-]
Feb 24 04:10:27 <Namworld>	What's your age?
Feb 24 04:10:48 <Bowjob>	20
Feb 24 04:11:12 <Namworld>	Well that's quite decent then, really
Feb 24 04:11:24 <Bowjob>	someone owes me $4200
Feb 24 04:11:33 <Bowjob>	ill give you a sage advice
Feb 24 04:11:37 <Bowjob>	never lend money to family
Feb 24 04:11:53 <Bowjob>	ive been trying to get the money back for 2 years now
Feb 24 04:11:54 <Bowjob>	:/
Feb 24 04:12:02 <Bowjob>	didnt even want interest
Feb 24 04:12:37 <Namworld>	Yeah, I think I'm done with anything tagged "loan".
Feb 24 04:13:05 <Namworld>	Except BTC-BOND but I'm the borrower on that one.
Feb 24 04:13:37 <Bowjob>	you know it kinda sucks to be the only one with money
Feb 24 04:13:44 <Bowjob>	my friends are all broke and shit
Feb 24 04:14:13 <Namworld>	So what's the issue?
Feb 24 04:14:33 <Bowjob>	we cant go to the high end places
Feb 24 04:14:40 <Bowjob>	just stick with okayish restaurant
Feb 24 04:16:14 <Namworld>	Well you'd be broke too that the situation would be the same except you'd be broke.
Feb 24 04:16:23 <Namworld>	More stress.
Feb 24 04:16:50 <Bowjob>	i in any case, i need a job soon to preserve my net worth
Feb 24 04:17:02 <Namworld>	So doesn't really sucks... maybe unfortunate for your friends.
Feb 24 04:17:12 <Bowjob>	any job will do, really. 2 years ago i didnt really have all these money.
Feb 24 04:17:20 <Bowjob>	i used to live on like 10 bucks a day lol
Feb 24 04:17:24 <Namworld>	But you rarely see someone early 20s that ain't broke.
Feb 24 04:18:43 <Bowjob>	I think since I'm still supported by parents, my early 20s is my best chance at making some serious shit
Feb 24 04:19:14 <Namworld>	That's a big plus and a good opportunity.
Feb 24 04:19:35 <Bowjob>	one thing i dont like though.. i feel like $20 isnt $20 anymore
Feb 24 04:19:44 <Bowjob>	more like $2.00 ..
Feb 24 04:20:04 <Namworld>	Seems a bit of an hyperbole, but yeah
Feb 24 04:22:23 <Bowjob>	i may have some money.. but the only thing that id want right now is my own house
Feb 24 04:22:30 <Bowjob>	i've got a long way to go
Feb 24 04:25:05 <Bowjob>	Now, had I put some money in BTC sooner
Feb 24 04:25:06 <Bowjob>	Lol
Feb 24 04:25:10 <Bowjob>	I'd be rolling
Feb 24 04:29:16 <Namworld>	Anyone would be.
Feb 24 04:29:49 <Namworld>	I'd send myself a message to my past self about Bitcoins if I could.
Feb 24 04:30:05 <Namworld>	Didn't hear about it until a bit after the crash in 2011
Feb 24 04:30:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08826 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:31:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08827 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:31:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.09537 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:31:52 <Bowjob>	woudn't we all
Feb 24 04:31:57 <Bowjob>	heck, if i knew id tell everyone
Feb 24 04:32:00 <Bowjob>	and get laughed at..
Feb 24 04:32:08 <Bowjob>	and 2 years later.. do a aha! told u so
Feb 24 04:33:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 200 @ 0.00429 = 0.858 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:35:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 635 @ 0.0021 = 1.3335 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:35:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00212 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:36:34 <Namworld>	BitVPS ain't a bad choice... but it won't earn anything soon. We loaned to buy servers.
Feb 24 04:37:24 <Namworld>	In a few months profits should be much higher from all the costs reduction. Still, that can't match the BTC price rise that occured.
Feb 24 04:37:31 <Namworld>	Good USD investment tho.
Feb 24 04:37:44 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 24 04:37:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.53444, Best ask: 29.69997, Bid-ask spread: 0.16553, Last trade: 29.53443, 24 hour volume: 42110.27378928, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 29.97000, 24 hour vwap: 28.89313
Feb 24 04:37:54 <thestringpuller>	bah I missed the drop
Feb 24 04:38:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.00196488 = 1.9649 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:38:56 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 24 04:39:14 <Namworld>	use http://namcdn.com/btcalarm if you want to wake up on drops.
Feb 24 04:39:36 <BitHub>	hehe i had mine set to 28
Feb 24 04:39:41 <BitHub>	thankfully it wasn't needed
Feb 24 04:40:01 <Namworld>	Mine too was set to 28
Feb 24 04:40:24 <Bowjob>	look at us panicing over 2-3 drop in value
Feb 24 04:40:28 <thestringpuller>	I just don't worry about it anymore
Feb 24 04:40:36 <thestringpuller>	I'm trying to find a time to buy in
Feb 24 04:40:38 <Bowjob>	in teh future, 20-30 dollars would be the norm
Feb 24 04:40:47 <Bicknellski>	lol nice alarm awesome
Feb 24 04:40:55 <BitHub>	not panicing
Feb 24 04:41:03 <Bicknellski>	I guess it will top 32 next week
Feb 24 04:41:09 <BitHub>	its just if it had drop to 27 i would have bought some moarrr
Feb 24 04:41:19 <Bowjob>	I fucked up.. I had an order for $2000 worth
Feb 24 04:41:20 <Bowjob>	at 17
Feb 24 04:41:24 <Bowjob>	but I got too lazy
Feb 24 04:41:41 <thestringpuller>	Nevada legalizes online gambling hmm
Feb 24 04:41:42 <Bowjob>	I got punished for it and I was forced to buy at %26 instead
Feb 24 04:43:55 <Bowjob>	looking at the orderbook, seems that 28 is just 5k BTC dump away
Feb 24 04:44:00 <Bowjob>	also, weekend dip
Feb 24 04:44:42 <thestringpuller>	people will always dump profits
Feb 24 04:44:49 <thestringpuller>	it's about cashflow and not one big pay off
Feb 24 04:45:09 <thestringpuller>	unless there is someone holding onto coins that were attained at like $2
Feb 24 04:45:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062838 = 4.1473 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:45:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062839 = 2.7153 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:45:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10029 @ 0.00062873 = 6.3055 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:45:25 <thestringpuller>	MPOE is experiencing the apple effect.
Feb 24 04:45:44 <Bowjob>	whats going on with mpoe?
Feb 24 04:46:28 <BitHub>	everytime micera comes on here to chat the MPOE stock price drops a few points
Feb 24 04:47:14 <thestringpuller>	The Apple effect.
Feb 24 04:47:19 <thestringpuller>	MPOE is good for bondholders
Feb 24 04:47:32 <thestringpuller>	but in terms of dividends it's fallen short
Feb 24 04:47:46 <Bowjob>	you can still lose money as a bondholde,r yeah?
Feb 24 04:47:49 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Feb 24 04:47:50 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00578039 / 0.00616969 / 0.00638999 (116199 shares, 716.91 BTC), 7D: 0.00562811 / 0.00634012 / 0.0069 (1426879 shares, 9,046.60 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00610575 / 0.0075 (7130672 shares, 43,538.12 BTC)
Feb 24 04:47:56 <thestringpuller>	that's only happened twice though
Feb 24 04:48:07 <thestringpuller>	one time was a huge significant loss
Feb 24 04:48:22 <thestringpuller>	like a 2000 btc loss
Feb 24 04:48:28 <BitHub>	:/
Feb 24 04:48:34 <thestringpuller>	blame pirate?
Feb 24 04:48:45 <thestringpuller>	or someone who knew pirate was going to default
Feb 24 04:49:42 <Bowjob>	so how does this mpex option call and puts work
Feb 24 04:49:49 <Bowjob>	havent really paid attention much
Feb 24 04:50:07 <thestringpuller>	on the last friday of the month the options expire
Feb 24 04:50:19 <Bowjob>	this is the shit that they need to teach kids in hs
Feb 24 04:50:32 <thestringpuller>	call value = (spot price - strike price) / spot price
Feb 24 04:50:41 <Bowjob>	whats a call
Feb 24 04:50:44 <thestringpuller>	put value = (strike price - spot price)/ price
Feb 24 04:50:54 <thestringpuller>	a call is a bet for the price going up
Feb 24 04:51:01 <thestringpuller>	a put is a bet for the price going down
Feb 24 04:51:10 <Bowjob>	sure. i have a 50 btc to play around with.. how do i play
Feb 24 04:51:33 <thestringpuller>	find a broker or get an mpex account which is gonna take 30 of the btc away to begin with unfortunatley
Feb 24 04:51:35 <Namworld>	I have a tool for options too...
Feb 24 04:51:55 <Namworld>	aight, you need an MPEx account.
Feb 24 04:52:00 <Namworld>	These cost 30 BTC
Feb 24 04:52:42 <thestringpuller>	otherwise you're gonna need a broker
Feb 24 04:52:45 <Bowjob>	isnt this gambling in the end?
Feb 24 04:53:00 <thestringpuller>	isn't anything gambling when it comes to speculation?
Feb 24 04:53:15 <Bowjob>	yeah but this is gambling with gambling
Feb 24 04:53:28 <thestringpuller>	i see it more as insurance which is yes gambling
Feb 24 04:53:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006264 = 2.7067 BTC [-]
Feb 24 04:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062633 = 4.1338 BTC [-]
Feb 24 04:53:35 <BitHub>	life is a gamble you either gain or lose
Feb 24 04:53:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4570 @ 0.00062632 = 2.8623 BTC [-]
Feb 24 04:53:45 <thestringpuller>	not with puts
Feb 24 04:54:00 <thestringpuller>	but then again if you're looking for profits in BTC then yea
Feb 24 04:54:31 <BitHub>	i just stick with BitFunder for now
Feb 24 04:55:03 <Bicknellski>	that 30BTC just buys you a seat at the table?
Feb 24 04:55:08 <thestringpuller>	yea
Feb 24 04:55:09 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 24 04:55:09 <Bicknellski>	no shares
Feb 24 04:55:13 <thestringpuller>	like a seat at the NYSE or NASDAQ
Feb 24 04:55:18 <Bicknellski>	ya
Feb 24 04:55:19 <Namworld>	nothing else than access
Feb 24 04:55:20 <thestringpuller>	that 30 BTC will be worht a lot one day
Feb 24 04:55:29 <thestringpuller>	if MPEX takes off :P
Feb 24 04:55:37 <Namworld>	If MPEx stays the major player in BTC stocks, it will be worth a lot...
Feb 24 04:55:39 <BitHub>	i think it can be 25
Feb 24 04:55:42 <BitHub>	if you use a link
Feb 24 04:55:45 <Bicknellski>	you can sell the seat?
Feb 24 04:55:48 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Feb 24 04:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062632 / 0.00063413 / 0.00064727 (1305405 shares, 827.80 BTC), 7D: 0.000622 / 0.00064416 / 0.00067884 (10810295 shares, 6,963.59 BTC), 30D: 0.00061382 / 0.00066301 / 0.0007 (61698258 shares, 40,906.68 BTC)
Feb 24 04:55:50 <Bicknellski>	or ot
Feb 24 04:55:51 <Bicknellski>	not
Feb 24 04:55:57 <Namworld>	no, can't sell that
Feb 24 04:56:00 <Bowjob>	you can be a broker though
Feb 24 04:56:01 <thestringpuller>	in theory you can sell the GPG key
Feb 24 04:56:11 <thestringpuller>	but then your gpg key is not yours anymore...
Feb 24 04:56:13 <Bicknellski>	right
Feb 24 04:56:28 <thestringpuller>	and technically compromised
Feb 24 04:56:33 <BitHub>	is it worth getting a mpex account to be a broker for other peeps?
Feb 24 04:56:38 <thestringpuller>	no
Feb 24 04:56:44 <thestringpuller>	that market is filled by jurov and smickles
Feb 24 04:56:44 <Bowjob>	i heard of this dude who lost 500 BTC from the flash crash
Feb 24 04:56:46 <Bowjob>	bought puts
Feb 24 04:56:50 <Bowjob>	but then didnt go down as much
Feb 24 04:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00590307 = 3.2467 BTC [+]
Feb 24 04:56:53 <BitHub>	bugger that
Feb 24 04:57:01 <Bicknellski>	ya... then the broker idea better really if you are not really going deep enough into this
Feb 24 04:57:11 <Bicknellski>	better to start with bitfunder
Feb 24 04:57:15 <Bicknellski>	or something
Feb 24 04:57:18 <BitHub>	yeah
Feb 24 04:57:26 <BitHub>	<3 bitfunder
Feb 24 04:57:36 <BitHub>	simple, easy, can talk to the guys that run it on here
Feb 24 04:57:45 <thestringpuller>	Ukto did a good job capitalizing on the GLBSE crash
Feb 24 04:58:11 <Bicknellski>	I will play with a couple hundred there something I can lose and not be too sad
Feb 24 04:58:40 <thestringpuller>	I think BitBet will have enough bets on it in the future to run Silver prediction on it.
Feb 24 04:58:51 <thestringpuller>	in the sameway companies use reddit to determine the virality of something
Feb 24 04:59:15 <thestringpuller>	As in Nate Silver
Feb 24 04:59:21 <Namworld>	Go BTCT.co
Feb 24 04:59:32 <Namworld>	Guy is also here
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Feb 24 05:00:05 <Namworld>	Bad selection on Bitfunder, no API yet, not as nice features =P
Feb 24 05:00:07 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: the reason the SLA was so "tight" in response time is cause we are thinking of starting a BTC based brewery
Feb 24 05:00:07 <Bowjob>	man.. this shit is confusing
Feb 24 05:00:19 <thestringpuller>	To bypass the ATF
Feb 24 05:00:30 <thestringpuller>	And hosting it on our website
Feb 24 05:00:36 <Bicknellski>	messed up for a buck or two on the that pirate bond
Feb 24 05:00:37 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 24 05:00:49 <Bicknellski>	didnt realize it was closed or closing
Feb 24 05:00:59 <Bicknellski>	and lost .0047
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Feb 24 05:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3007 @ 0.00062632 = 1.8833 BTC [-]
Feb 24 05:01:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6893 @ 0.00062631 = 4.3172 BTC [-]
Feb 24 05:01:36 <Bicknellski>	gotta read stuff very carefully
Feb 24 05:02:55 <thestringpuller>	Would anyone here order beer for BTC?
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Feb 24 05:03:31 <Bicknellski>	no
Feb 24 05:04:02 <Bicknellski>	you know if you are buying anything that can't hold long term value it is not a good idea right?
Feb 24 05:04:26 <Bicknellski>	the pizza wasnt enough?
Feb 24 05:04:33 <Bicknellski>	250,000 $
Feb 24 05:04:49 <thestringpuller>	that pizza is worht 250,000 now
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Feb 24 05:04:55 <thestringpuller>	but not then
Feb 24 05:05:28 <thestringpuller>	I also ordered pizza with coins last weekend
Feb 24 05:05:35 <Bicknellski>	300
Feb 24 05:05:50 <Bicknellski>	makes no sense to buy with coins
Feb 24 05:05:59 <Bicknellski>	unless they are alt coins
Feb 24 05:06:06 <Bicknellski>	like FRC or something
Feb 24 05:06:07 <Bowjob>	imo the pizza story adds allure to the bitcoin tale
Feb 24 05:06:19 <thestringpuller>	so you think
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Feb 24 05:06:22 <Bicknellski>	sure does but really a cautionary tale
Feb 24 05:06:25 <Bowjob>	people think... 2 years ago, 10k btc
Feb 24 05:06:27 <thestringpuller>	that btc is only good for speculation?
Feb 24 05:06:32 <Bicknellski>	... value in BTC is upwards
Feb 24 05:06:40 <Bicknellski>	I think so
Feb 24 05:06:52 <Bicknellski>	I dont see why you would use it as a currency
Feb 24 05:06:59 <Bicknellski>	not yet anyhow
Feb 24 05:07:03 <Bicknellski>	maybe not ever
Feb 24 05:07:06 <thestringpuller>	cause it's easy...
Feb 24 05:07:07 <Bowjob>	imo use it like gold and silver
Feb 24 05:07:10 <Bowjob>	commodity
Feb 24 05:07:12 <Bicknellski>	ya
Feb 24 05:07:19 <Bicknellski>	limited number
Feb 24 05:07:22 <Bicknellski>	very limited
Feb 24 05:07:27 <Bowjob>	but it has no intrinisc value
Feb 24 05:07:29 <Bowjob>	at leas with gold..
Feb 24 05:07:34 <Bowjob>	you can wear it
Feb 24 05:07:37 <FabianB>	if that guy didn't buy the 10'000 pizza, maybe btc wouldn't've got so popular and didn't rise in value like it did
Feb 24 05:07:37 <Bowjob>	or eat it even
Feb 24 05:07:40 <Bicknellski>	it has as much value as gold
Feb 24 05:07:51 <Bicknellski>	it is just how we assign value
Feb 24 05:08:04 <thestringpuller>	If you're worried about spending btc as the value goes up you don't have adequate btc cash flow
Feb 24 05:08:07 <Bicknellski>	gold means little when you are thirsty
Feb 24 05:08:12 <Bowjob>	you can make golden armors of gold
Feb 24 05:08:21 <Bowjob>	you can make pills that make your shit turn goldy
Feb 24 05:08:29 <Bicknellski>	I think pack ratting it away is best move
Feb 24 05:08:33 <Bowjob>	thats intrinsic value right there
Feb 24 05:08:41 <Bicknellski>	and use it for cash flow in tight times
Feb 24 05:08:41 <Bowjob>	khanacademy covered this
Feb 24 05:08:42 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 24 05:08:44 <Bicknellski>	if value is right
Feb 24 05:08:50 <Bowjob>	suppose USD tanks
Feb 24 05:08:54 <Bowjob>	the whole economy tanks
Feb 24 05:08:59 <Bowjob>	.. how would we trade BTC
Feb 24 05:09:04 <Bowjob>	if internet goes down?
Feb 24 05:09:12 <Bowjob>	int he US at least
Feb 24 05:09:14 <Bowjob>	*the
Feb 24 05:09:25 <Bicknellski>	I think if you are in that situation
Feb 24 05:09:30 <Bicknellski>	the world is fucked
Feb 24 05:09:37 <Bicknellski>	and your gonna be fighting for food
Feb 24 05:09:45 <Bicknellski>	not worrying about gold coins
Feb 24 05:09:52 <thestringpuller>	XD
Feb 24 05:09:59 <thestringpuller>	We call that an apocalypse
Feb 24 05:09:59 <Bowjob>	well i dont think it can be that bad
Feb 24 05:10:00 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 24 05:10:07 <Bicknellski>	eaxctly
Feb 24 05:10:18 <Bowjob>	but USD fucking up is a very real thing
Feb 24 05:10:18 <Bicknellski>	I think coin is a great way to store value
Feb 24 05:10:24 <thestringpuller>	that should be on bitbet
Feb 24 05:10:26 <Bicknellski>	cant be stolen easily
Feb 24 05:10:28 <Bicknellski>	I love that
Feb 24 05:10:32 <thestringpuller>	"An Apocalypse will occur by 2013"
Feb 24 05:10:37 <Bicknellski>	but you can lose it
Feb 24 05:10:38 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 24 05:10:43 <Bowjob>	i mean. that trillions of dollars in debt
Feb 24 05:10:49 <Bicknellski>	Bah... wont happen
Feb 24 05:10:49 <Bowjob>	cant be paid off
Feb 24 05:11:10 <Bowjob>	why dont the world just forgive USD
Feb 24 05:11:12 <Bicknellski>	the conspiracy theories dont bother me much
Feb 24 05:11:14 <Bowjob>	there crisis averted
Feb 24 05:11:29 <Bowjob>	well, the debt crisis isnt a conspiracy theory
Feb 24 05:11:35 <Bicknellski>	you just have your crisis...
Feb 24 05:11:45 <Bicknellski>	they print more cash and bail out the system
Feb 24 05:11:54 <Bicknellski>	no end of that in sight
Feb 24 05:11:57 <Bowjob>	then hyperinflation happens
Feb 24 05:12:12 <Bowjob>	everyone would be a billionaire
Feb 24 05:12:37 <jurov>	hi Bicknellski, i think if you mention existing mpex account when creating a new one
Feb 24 05:12:51 <jurov>	you'll have to pay only 25 BTC and they will receive 5btc too
Feb 24 05:12:52 <thestringpuller>	It seems based on your theories, BTC will serve as the new speculation medium
Feb 24 05:13:03 <thestringpuller>	how the market is formed
Feb 24 05:13:06 <thestringpuller>	whereas
Feb 24 05:13:13 <thestringpuller>	local currency is used for spending
Feb 24 05:13:13 <Bicknellski>	the owner gets a kickback too?
Feb 24 05:13:20 <Bicknellski>	jurov
Feb 24 05:13:29 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 24 05:13:31 <Namworld>	Minimum Salary: 1 trillion zimbab... I mean US dollars per hour.
Feb 24 05:13:31 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222844 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 931 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 21 hours, 25 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4307994.02309 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.99453
Feb 24 05:13:47 <Namworld>	We're all multi-trillionaires
Feb 24 05:14:02 <jurov>	Bicknellski: yes, see: http://mpex.co/faq.html#13
Feb 24 05:14:07 <thestringpuller>	Zimbabwe Hyperinflation isn't a joke it's a real thing
Feb 24 05:14:09 <Bicknellski>	ya... let them pry your btc from your cold dead hands
Feb 24 05:14:12 <Bicknellski>	fuck guns
Feb 24 05:14:26 <Bicknellski>	Thanks Jurov.
Feb 24 05:14:36 <jurov>	feel free to use D0AEE7D7 as referral ;)
Feb 24 05:14:37 <Bicknellski>	I m going do something soon...
Feb 24 05:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062845 = 2.7155 BTC [+]
Feb 24 05:14:46 <Bowjob>	what snext after trillions
Feb 24 05:14:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5971 @ 0.00062873 = 3.7541 BTC [+]
Feb 24 05:14:48 <Bicknellski>	Got it wink wink
Feb 24 05:14:52 <Bowjob>	quadrillion
Feb 24 05:14:53 <Bowjob>	?
Feb 24 05:14:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1467 @ 0.00062873 = 0.9223 BTC [+]
Feb 24 05:15:17 <Bowjob>	i'd be happy with 1 googol of zimbabwean dollars
Feb 24 05:15:17 <Bicknellski>	Im in on the https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-O
Feb 24 05:15:19 <Bowjob>	id own the world
Feb 24 05:15:29 <Bicknellski>	for a whole 2 shares lol
Feb 24 05:15:58 <Namworld>	thestringpuller: I know the first one is not a joke.
Feb 24 05:16:15 <Bicknellski>	My real plan here is to use what I learn to teach my students about crypto currency
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Feb 24 05:16:47 <jurov>	hm, just read satoshi paper then...
Feb 24 05:16:49 <Bicknellski>	trying to rangle a few fpga's soon just to pay them off before the difficulty kills them
Feb 24 05:16:59 <jurov>	everything around it is just drama and BS
Feb 24 05:17:00 <Bicknellski>	not that level jur
Feb 24 05:17:10 <Bicknellski>	middle school and highschool
Feb 24 05:17:22 <jurov>	at least try, it's quite accessible
Feb 24 05:17:26 <Bicknellski>	probably mine altcoins and trade them
Feb 24 05:17:36 <Bicknellski>	for 'educational" value
Feb 24 05:17:49 <FabianB>	they'll loose all their pocket money
Feb 24 05:17:49 <Bicknellski>	I can read that on my own see if it fits in
Feb 24 05:17:54 <Bicknellski>	probably higher
Feb 24 05:18:01 <Bicknellski>	say 16+
Feb 24 05:18:12 <Bicknellski>	 none of their cash
Feb 24 05:18:13 <thestringpuller>	the satoshi paper is really good
Feb 24 05:18:18 <thestringpuller>	college level
Feb 24 05:18:20 <Bicknellski>	... all alt coins mined at school
Feb 24 05:18:35 <Bicknellski>	Ya pre U
Feb 24 05:18:39 <Bicknellski>	I think stringer
Feb 24 05:18:51 <Bicknellski>	a kid 16 can get value at of it
Feb 24 05:18:56 <thestringpuller>	that'd dr. stringpuller to you :P
Feb 24 05:19:00 <thestringpuller>	that's*
Feb 24 05:19:08 <Bicknellski>	Dr.
Feb 24 05:19:14 <Bowjob>	i dont really understand the satoshi paper
Feb 24 05:19:14 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Feb 24 05:19:18 <Bowjob>	way too complicated for me
Feb 24 05:19:42 <Bicknellski>	I can dumb it down if necessary
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Feb 24 05:19:57 <usagi>	Hi guys.
Feb 24 05:20:05 <Bowjob>	i'm lost on page 4
Feb 24 05:20:14 <Bowjob>	page 5
Feb 24 05:20:20 <Bicknellski>	Hey Usua
Feb 24 05:20:35 <Bowjob>	and thereafter
Feb 24 05:21:15 <Bicknellski>	I think thestringpuller will have a new nick that sticks. Dr.
Feb 24 05:21:39 <usagi>	String puller? I don't even knower.
Feb 24 05:21:48 <Bicknellski>	You know the string pullers were very important in Egypt
Feb 24 05:21:51 <usagi>	Sorry that was banal :)
Feb 24 05:22:06 <Bicknellski>	Bada BING!
Feb 24 05:22:56 <jurov>	Prof. Dr. Stringpusher, PhD.
Feb 24 05:23:04 <Bowjob>	seems like XRP is going pretty hot right now
Feb 24 05:23:22 <Bicknellski>	It will be useful
Feb 24 05:23:42 <Bicknellski>	it might allow a free movement of bitcoin globally just what it needs
Feb 24 05:23:49 <Bicknellski>	and altcoins too
Feb 24 05:23:57 <Bicknellski>	can really work it
Feb 24 05:24:59 <Bicknellski>	Nice one Jurov
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Feb 24 05:27:19 <Bowjob>	its about 1.5 BTC per 50k XRP
Feb 24 05:27:21 <Bowjob>	not bad
Feb 24 05:27:34 <BitHub>	xrp?
Feb 24 05:27:53 <BitHub>	experience points?
Feb 24 05:28:15 <Namworld>	I thought it was more like 1 million per BTC...
Feb 24 05:28:40 <Bowjob>	Uhh.. Nope.
Feb 24 05:28:54 <Namworld>	Too freakin expensive then...
Feb 24 05:28:57 <Bowjob>	it could be the new age excitement
Feb 24 05:29:12 <Bowjob>	i think if XRP will take off, it will stay at these prices for a bit
Feb 24 05:29:14 <Bowjob>	then go down
Feb 24 05:29:16 <Bowjob>	then take off
Feb 24 05:29:34 <Namworld>	If they're 1.5 BTC per 50k, that means all XRPs are worth 3 million BTC right off the bat...
Feb 24 05:29:46 <Namworld>	It's ridiculous.
Feb 24 05:30:15 <Namworld>	There was 100'000'000'000 created right off the bat. Every user on Bitcointalk can get 40k for free.
Feb 24 05:30:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5507 @ 0.00062631 = 3.4491 BTC [-]
Feb 24 05:30:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062626 = 2.7061 BTC [-]
Feb 24 05:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6206 @ 0.00062625 = 3.8865 BTC [-]
Feb 24 05:30:48 <Bowjob>	I'll wait for XRP parity
Feb 24 05:30:48 <Bowjob>	:)
Feb 24 05:30:53 <Bowjob>	with dollar
Feb 24 05:30:54 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 24 05:31:05 <Namworld>	They're not even supposed to be currency, just units to aid transactions.
Feb 24 05:31:11 <Namworld>	of other currencies.
Feb 24 05:33:09 <BitHub>	bleh
Feb 24 05:33:27 <BitHub>	most of the time better off just leaving btc in your wallet
Feb 24 05:33:50 <thestringpuller>	You shouldn't hoard value
Feb 24 05:33:59 <thestringpuller>	It's very selfish :P
Feb 24 05:34:14 <BitHub>	i just sell when i need some cash
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Feb 24 05:35:19 <thestringpuller>	The economy is based on value you put into it which is in turn translated to USD.
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Feb 24 05:35:46 <thestringpuller>	Sure you can piggy back on everyone else's contribution into the economy, but if everyone has your mindset BTC will surely collapse.
Feb 24 05:36:33 <BitHub>	that's the beauty of a free market
Feb 24 05:36:41 <Bowjob>	this is kinda like a ponzi
Feb 24 05:36:41 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 24 05:36:50 <Bowjob>	im glad others bought in after me
Feb 24 05:36:54 <thestringpuller>	If everyone makes it a ponzi...
Feb 24 05:37:14 <thestringpuller>	Why would you want it to be a ponzi? Are you really that lazy?
Feb 24 05:37:39 <Bowjob>	and why would i spend my coins again
Feb 24 05:37:44 <Bowjob>	theres fiat for that
Feb 24 05:37:48 <thestringpuller>	to make more coins
Feb 24 05:37:57 <thestringpuller>	Why the fuck do you spend money? To make money.
Feb 24 05:38:00 <Bowjob>	and i already did spend some coins, see avalon pre order 2
Feb 24 05:38:12 <BitHub>	stringpuller making no sense
Feb 24 05:38:27 <thestringpuller>	Haha! That means I am making perfect sense.
Feb 24 05:38:27 <Bowjob>	i did replenish the coins to protect my stance, however
Feb 24 05:38:44 <Bowjob>	also, feel free to spend your coins then. no ones stopping you
Feb 24 05:39:04 <BitHub>	spend your coins on me stringpuller for 10$
Feb 24 05:39:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062846 = 2.7156 BTC [+]
Feb 24 05:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14533 @ 0.00062873 = 9.1373 BTC [+]
Feb 24 05:39:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31271 @ 0.00062874 = 19.6613 BTC [+]
Feb 24 05:39:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3654 @ 0.00063284 = 2.3124 BTC [+]
Feb 24 05:39:19 <thestringpuller>	I'm still stuck on your ponzi scheme segment.
Feb 24 05:39:22 <BitHub>	lets help the bitcoin econemy, together
Feb 24 05:39:48 <Bowjob>	because thats what bitcoin really is.. the early investors get the most out of it
Feb 24 05:40:20 <Bowjob>	or if itsnot a ponzi, it has ponzi-like properties
Feb 24 05:40:44 <BitHub>	early investors take the biggest risk
Feb 24 05:40:51 <thestringpuller>	That's a property of many businesses though...those who invest early get the most money.
Feb 24 05:41:04 <thestringpuller>	As BitHub just indicated
Feb 24 05:41:07 <BitHub>	that's why they get rewarded so well
Feb 24 05:41:31 <jurov>	usually those who can't do anything useful to earn btcs scream "ponzi"
Feb 24 05:41:58 <thestringpuller>	But a VC knows that out of all the ideas brought to them, over 80% will fail.
Feb 24 05:42:46 <thestringpuller>	My point however is that if all people have the hivemind of "if I buy in now before others I will make money" then that's what the majority will do.
Feb 24 05:43:39 <Bowjob>	isnt that what everyone is doing?
Feb 24 05:43:42 <jurov>	thestringpuller, that's not happening. too many miners are uneasy with holding btcs
Feb 24 05:43:51 <jurov>	and they prefer to cash out quickly
Feb 24 05:44:05 <jurov>	i know some personally
Feb 24 05:44:25 <thestringpuller>	Thus BTC has become a giant ponzi. If people contribute to the economy as a whole, then a side effect is deflation on the currency so you're able to hold BTC and get value out of it (unlike a modern saving's account).
Feb 24 05:44:31 <jurov>	dunno why, they seem to despise "speculation"
Feb 24 05:44:41 <thestringpuller>	Most miners don't hold coins?
Feb 24 05:44:46 <jurov>	yea
Feb 24 05:44:48 <thestringpuller>	Virgin coins go into circulation rather quick?
Feb 24 05:44:55 <jurov>	some do
Feb 24 05:45:06 <thestringpuller>	Why is there such a high level of BTC-days destroyed then...
Feb 24 05:45:17 <thestringpuller>	Either someone has lost all the coins...or someone is holding.
Feb 24 05:45:45 <jurov>	"most miners" make only small part of the pie
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Feb 24 05:46:06 <jurov>	i was just tryng to say that not everyone is holding
Feb 24 05:46:23 <Bowjob>	well you guys can spend your btc, i'll save mine
Feb 24 05:46:34 <jurov>	argument against hivemind
Feb 24 05:46:38 <thestringpuller>	How many are you holding Bowjob
Feb 24 05:46:50 <Bowjob>	not a whole lot, i'm late
Feb 24 05:47:06 <Bowjob>	around ~200 and an incoming asic
Feb 24 05:47:11 <Bowjob>	depends on dice value later on
Feb 24 05:47:44 <thestringpuller>	That's more than most.
Feb 24 05:48:07 <Bowjob>	id imagine if you're in this IRC, that means you have thousands of BTC
Feb 24 05:48:22 <thestringpuller>	I do not. XD
Feb 24 05:48:36 <usagi>	I could use a couple 10k BTC
Feb 24 05:48:41 <Bowjob>	and btc isn't something thats accepted everywhere
Feb 24 05:49:04 <thestringpuller>	Neither is the Euro...? What is your point?
Feb 24 05:49:05 <Bowjob>	cant spend it on my fave restaurants, or groceries
Feb 24 05:49:36 <Bowjob>	dude, you're retarded. I'll give you one chance to take that euro comment back before i tear your logic apart
Feb 24 05:50:01 <thestringpuller>	I'm not a big fan of the Euro... :P
Feb 24 05:50:02 <Bowjob>	you're just trolling, i get it
Feb 24 05:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062639 = 2.7066 BTC [-]
Feb 24 05:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00062625 = 1.0515 BTC [-]
Feb 24 05:51:22 <thestringpuller>	If you don't have a restraurant you can go to and buy shit with BTC, why not create one? Or at least contribute to creating one?
Feb 24 05:52:17 <BitHub>	or cash out the night before and you'll have money in your bank account
Feb 24 05:52:45 <Bowjob>	i dont have to. i have enough fiat to cover
Feb 24 05:52:53 <thestringpuller>	So you're lazy?
Feb 24 05:52:58 <thestringpuller>	:P
Feb 24 05:53:08 <Bowjob>	sure, you can play the role of armchair activist
Feb 24 05:53:15 <Bowjob>	I'll sit it out
Feb 24 05:53:23 <BitHub>	i think the first step is gateways for paying for utility bills and food delivery service
Feb 24 05:53:35 <BitHub>	that is a very simple, huge step, great btc service to provide
Feb 24 05:54:10 <BitHub>	you don't need every retail type of store accepting bitcoin
Feb 24 05:54:36 <BitHub>	restraunts etc, might catch on oneday and add it as another optional payment
Feb 24 05:55:05 <thestringpuller>	the only issue is who wants a gateway for spending BTC to pay utilities?
Feb 24 05:55:11 <thestringpuller>	who has that kind of cashflow
Feb 24 05:56:56 <BitHub>	miners want this gateway so they can use btc to pay for their bills
Feb 24 05:57:21 <Bowjob>	ask the electric company if they take bitcoins
Feb 24 05:57:34 <BitHub>	i'm sure alot of people would want a way to pay for their bills via bitcoin
Feb 24 05:57:47 <thestringpuller>	I think miners should use solar, or self powering.
Feb 24 05:57:58 <BitHub>	if not just find a gateway you can give your bitcoins to and they can pay your bills
Feb 24 05:58:07 <BitHub>	that's something i'm thinking of doing for australia
Feb 24 05:58:13 <BitHub>	but eh the whole fiat thing
Feb 24 05:58:33 <thestringpuller>	baby steps :P
Feb 24 05:58:37 <BitHub>	gotta get expensive licences, etc
Feb 24 05:58:42 <BitHub>	not worth the trouble
Feb 24 06:00:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2219 @ 0.00063265 = 1.4039 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063266 = 2.7337 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11810 @ 0.00063284 = 7.4738 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:01:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 24 06:01:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.48862, Best ask: 29.65277, Bid-ask spread: 0.16415, Last trade: 29.48862, 24 hour volume: 40916.67973440, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 29.97000, 24 hour vwap: 28.87917
Feb 24 06:01:25 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 30
Feb 24 06:01:27 <gribble>	There are currently 4984.1459 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 148805.131458 USD in total.
Feb 24 06:01:34 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29
Feb 24 06:01:35 <gribble>	There are currently 2177.1827 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 63526.105328 USD in total.
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Feb 24 06:05:10 <jurov>	nope. miners should go nucleaaaar
Feb 24 06:05:44 <jurov>	thestringpuller and what did you mean "self powering"?
Feb 24 06:07:12 <jurov>	attach dynamo to stationary bicycle and power some mini rig from it?
Feb 24 06:07:24 <jurov>	lol
Feb 24 06:07:37 <thestringpuller>	"off grid powering"
Feb 24 06:07:45 <thestringpuller>	excuse my southerness :P
Feb 24 06:08:40 <thestringpuller>	jurov -^
Feb 24 06:08:59 <jurov>	np :D
Feb 24 06:09:13 <jurov>	if diablo succeeds with his DC project, he can move on such big things
Feb 24 06:09:43 <jurov>	i'd suggest molten-salt thorium reactor with mining equipment hooked directly
Feb 24 06:10:02 <thestringpuller>	LOL sounds like real mining
Feb 24 06:10:06 <thestringpuller>	"drill drill"
Feb 24 06:10:30 <jurov>	that will be 99% attack, lol
Feb 24 06:10:34 <BitHub>	and meanwhile satoshi fapps on
Feb 24 06:10:59 <thestringpuller>	satoshi isn't real
Feb 24 06:11:08 <BitHub>	DONT YOU DARE SAY THAT
Feb 24 06:11:41 <BitHub>	once we stop believing satoshi is real the price starts to crash
Feb 24 06:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2221 @ 0.00063276 = 1.4054 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063277 = 2.7342 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8213 @ 0.00063284 = 5.1975 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6945 @ 0.0006334 = 4.399 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:13:03 <thestringpuller>	Just like the Batman is real :P
Feb 24 06:13:30 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 24 06:13:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.48862, Best ask: 29.65269, Bid-ask spread: 0.16407, Last trade: 29.48862, 24 hour volume: 40897.35441831, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 29.97000, 24 hour vwap: 28.87898
Feb 24 06:15:00 <usagi>	satoshi is batman
Feb 24 06:16:23 <jurov>	lol, so it ended up like i don't comprehend what i'm doing.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1555327#msg1555327
Feb 24 06:18:46 <jurov>	cya later
Feb 24 06:20:49 <pigeons>	end result, profit for those involved
Feb 24 06:22:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1442 @ 0.00063274 = 0.9124 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2003 @ 0.00063275 = 1.2674 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3576 @ 0.0006334 = 2.265 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00063516 = 17.3716 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 06:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00063571 = 9.7264 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:33:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3245 @ 0.00063786 = 2.0699 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:36:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3229 @ 0.0006355 = 2.052 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:36:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1442 @ 0.00062643 = 0.9033 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2003 @ 0.00062642 = 1.2547 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2221 @ 0.00062641 = 1.3913 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:36:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006264 = 2.7067 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2219 @ 0.00062626 = 1.3897 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8115 @ 0.00062625 = 5.082 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00062624 = 3.4443 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00062611 = 4.0697 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:37:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2593 @ 0.00062596 = 1.6231 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8239 @ 0.00063585 = 5.2388 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 06:43:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.68000001 = 6.8 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:44:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.68 = 10.2 BTC [-]
Feb 24 06:46:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00062618 = 2.4108 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 06:56:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 471 @ 0.00062642 = 0.295 BTC [+]
Feb 24 06:56:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3575 @ 0.00062619 = 2.2386 BTC [-]
Feb 24 07:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12425 @ 0.00062619 = 7.7804 BTC [-]
Feb 24 07:00:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7307 @ 0.00062596 = 4.5739 BTC [-]
Feb 24 07:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6268 @ 0.0006255 = 3.9206 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 07:09:54 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 24 07:09:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.65269, Best ask: 29.66000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00731, Last trade: 29.66000, 24 hour volume: 40968.21828290, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 29.97000, 24 hour vwap: 28.88181
Feb 24 07:10:02 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 30
Feb 24 07:10:05 <gribble>	There are currently 4694.5951 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 140055.888148 USD in total.
Feb 24 07:10:10 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29
Feb 24 07:10:12 <gribble>	There are currently 2693.0438 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 78655.0580205 USD in total.
Feb 24 07:14:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00062551 = 4.66 BTC [+]
Feb 24 07:15:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00603899 = 12.078 BTC [+]
Feb 24 07:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00062551 = 1.5951 BTC [+]
Feb 24 07:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9699 @ 0.0006255 = 6.0667 BTC [-]
Feb 24 07:23:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1301 @ 0.00062538 = 0.8136 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 07:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063165 = 3.1583 BTC [+]
Feb 24 07:30:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063166 = 2.7294 BTC [+]
Feb 24 07:30:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8729 @ 0.00063187 = 5.5156 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 07:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063129 = 2.7278 BTC [-]
Feb 24 07:39:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12279 @ 0.00063126 = 7.7512 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 07:45:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;tickler
Feb 24 07:45:34 <gribble>	Error: "tickler" is not a valid command.
Feb 24 07:45:36 <mircea_popescu>	heh
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Feb 24 08:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 500 @ 0.08421619 = 42.1081 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P270T] 500 @ 0.14736457 = 73.6823 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P290T] 1000 @ 0.18647515 = 186.4752 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P270T] 500 @ 0.14736457 = 73.6823 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:11:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.01 = 0.07 BTC [+]
Feb 24 08:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 500 @ 0.08421619 = 42.1081 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:17:19 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.P230T
Feb 24 08:17:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1D: 0.08421619 / 0.08421619 / 0.08421619 (1000 shares, 84.22 BTC), 7D: 0.02 / 0.10749695 / 0.13112771 (2004 shares, 215.42 BTC), 30D: 0.02 / 0.06790049 / 0.13112771 (10269 shares, 697.27 BTC)
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Feb 24 08:18:07 <thestringpuller>	(23 - 29)/23
Feb 24 08:18:12 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (23 - 29)/23
Feb 24 08:18:12 <gribble>	-0.260869565217
Feb 24 08:18:40 <pigeons>	;;estimate
Feb 24 08:18:46 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4319163.31016 based on data since last change | 4308400.33984 based on data for last three days
Feb 24 08:19:11 <thestringpuller>	!ticker X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 24 08:19:11 <assbot>	I thought I told you not to touch me.
Feb 24 08:19:41 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 24 08:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (25 shares, 1.90 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06613044 / 0.089 (363 shares, 24.01 BTC)
Feb 24 08:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4201 @ 0.00063126 = 2.6519 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 660 @ 0.00062619 = 0.4133 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062542 = 3.1271 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00062541 = 6.2541 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:20:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10349 @ 0.00062538 = 6.4721 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:20:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00062516 = 16.3792 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:20:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11390 @ 0.00062443 = 7.1123 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:20:17 <Ukto>	Namworld: bad selection? how mean. :P Why dont you help out and list a btc-bond or something. And there IS a trade api. just been working to make it nice for everyone. and what 'not as nice features' are you refering to? Might be on the list. :)
Feb 24 08:21:23 <pigeons>	the only place you can get MPBOR fund is bitfunder, and XDIFF passthroughs
Feb 24 08:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	how's xdiff related to mpbor ?
Feb 24 08:23:19 <pigeons>	and the prices aren't pumped by funds multiplied to bid on all the assets
Feb 24 08:23:20 <Namworld>	email for all asset holders would be nice.
Feb 24 08:23:25 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: its not
Feb 24 08:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Feb 24 08:23:40 <mircea_popescu>	misread that
Feb 24 08:23:49 <Namworld>	And except for Deadterra's passthroughs, not much worthwile on Bitfunder yet.
Feb 24 08:23:54 <pigeons>	only place you can get those 2 sepearate things, a managed mpbor fund, and xdiff passthroughs, is bitfunder, to clarify
Feb 24 08:24:17 <Namworld>	I just like the way bids and everything is handled on BTCT.co too
Feb 24 08:24:34 <Namworld>	Not that your platform is bad =P
Feb 24 08:25:11 <Namworld>	But since I selected BTCT.co, I feel like I have to get people to use it more.
Feb 24 08:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P290T] 1000 @ 0.18644841 = 186.4484 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:31:22 <Ukto>	Namworld: agreed and understood. :)
Feb 24 08:31:48 <Ukto>	Honestly, I do like some of the features of btct, I added some originally with BF. he has had alot of good ideas
Feb 24 08:32:05 <Ukto>	I have no shame in admitting that lol
Feb 24 08:32:21 <Ukto>	Just like he's liked some of my stuff. It's all about making things better for the users.
Feb 24 08:32:32 <Namworld>	Aye. Well honestly, it's not bad to be split multiple platforms.
Feb 24 08:32:36 <Namworld>	I use both.
Feb 24 08:32:45 <Ukto>	as for notifications, I have a large notifications system partially developed. I am trying to get my big project for BF done though
Feb 24 08:32:59 <Ukto>	when i get tired of working on it and need a break, i do little things
Feb 24 08:33:23 <Ukto>	but once I finish this project for BF, I will be knocking out a ton of small stuffs
Feb 24 08:33:33 <Diablo-D3>	so I guess Im in a mostly good mood today
Feb 24 08:33:35 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: you need option passthrus
Feb 24 08:33:43 <Namworld>	Both platforms would need more assets and users tho. Not happening currently. No volume.
Feb 24 08:33:44 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: *giggle* :P
Feb 24 08:33:52 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: just you wait, until you see what I have up my sleeve.
Feb 24 08:34:18 <Ukto>	Namworld: I am working on 6 very interesting assets
Feb 24 08:35:07 <thestringpuller>	so options :P
Feb 24 08:35:20 <Ukto>	umm, not quite.
Feb 24 08:35:21 <Namworld>	yeah, that kind of thing just doesn't happen on BTCT.co with voting
Feb 24 08:35:23 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is right we need an options composite
Feb 24 08:35:38 <Namworld>	We wouldn't be able to batch import option passthroughs
Feb 24 08:35:55 <Ukto>	Namworld: I am sure burnside could figure something out..
Feb 24 08:36:14 <fydel>	hi there! can anyone tell me where the graph in this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1552103#msg1552103 comes from ?
Feb 24 08:36:49 <Ukto>	isnt that the sdice graph ?
Feb 24 08:37:18 <fydel>	yep
Feb 24 08:37:31 <Ukto>	seen it before, not sure where its hosted tho
Feb 24 08:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	fydel it comes from dooglus, if you click the link above it you'll see
Feb 24 08:37:39 <Ukto>	someone else here should
Feb 24 08:37:59 <Ukto>	oh, is douglas manually producing them based on site data?
Feb 24 08:38:12 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto it's not site data, someone wrote a chain traverser
Feb 24 08:38:20 <Ukto>	ah sou
Feb 24 08:38:20 <mircea_popescu>	they just parse all the sdice addresses periodically.
Feb 24 08:38:51 <Ukto>	as of that last post profit was: 67,956.41
Feb 24 08:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	i think bugpowder has a copy too, i don't recall where it is on github
Feb 24 08:38:57 <Ukto>	the totals column
Feb 24 08:39:02 <Ukto>	that seems awfully high
Feb 24 08:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	something like that.
Feb 24 08:39:18 <Ukto>	last month was like 20k btc wasnt it?
Feb 24 08:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	no, sdice made like 60-70k, mpoe made like 20k or so, there's a reason these are the top bitcoin corps.
Feb 24 08:39:24 <mircea_popescu>	nobody else comes even remotely close.
Feb 24 08:39:55 <fydel>	mircea_popescu ok..thank you....so internet site where I can see it in real time?
Feb 24 08:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	fydel not unless you write it yourself.
Feb 24 08:40:05 <Ukto>	there isnt one
Feb 24 08:40:06 <pizzaman1337>	how much does mtgox make?
Feb 24 08:40:07 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: bitinstant does
Feb 24 08:40:13 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think it would be too hard, just get the parser and run it
Feb 24 08:40:13 <Ukto>	you have to wait for someone to scrape the data and make one
Feb 24 08:40:27 <fydel>	mircea_popescu no way I am lazy and dump as shit
Feb 24 08:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller how do you know ?
Feb 24 08:40:41 <mircea_popescu>	fydel well then it may have to wait a little.
Feb 24 08:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 they'd be around there, possibly, but haven't had a report out in like 18 months i think
Feb 24 08:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	they did monthly reporting too for a few months but then gave up
Feb 24 08:42:18 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: its not hard to figure out gox's profits
Feb 24 08:42:26 <Ukto>	the last 30 days they made some 80~100k USD worth
Feb 24 08:42:38 <Ukto>	due tot he mass influx of cash
Feb 24 08:42:42 <pizzaman1337>	not bad
Feb 24 08:42:55 <Ukto>	thats including the BTC earnings tho
Feb 24 08:42:56 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: lemme rephrase silk road is THE top BTC business atm
Feb 24 08:43:10 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: really? last I saw it was mostly dead.
Feb 24 08:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller bs.
Feb 24 08:43:33 <Ukto>	although someone told me that there has been alot more guns and ammo lately
Feb 24 08:43:35 <Ukto>	with all the bs going on
Feb 24 08:43:39 <mircea_popescu>	you're working on maybe 2011 data. or 2010.
Feb 24 08:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto you seen the sort of expenditure they do ?
Feb 24 08:44:21 <Ukto>	nah
Feb 24 08:44:25 <Ukto>	wait SR?
Feb 24 08:44:26 <Ukto>	no
Feb 24 08:44:28 <thestringpuller>	you can check the feedback
Feb 24 08:44:30 <Ukto>	havent looked at SR in like a year
Feb 24 08:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto nono, not sr, mtgox
Feb 24 08:44:46 <Ukto>	gox's expendatures are not that high
Feb 24 08:44:48 <Ukto>	around 20~25k
Feb 24 08:44:51 <thestringpuller>	but the feedback is happening less now so most the of the transactions are ghost
Feb 24 08:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. 20-25 btc iirc.
Feb 24 08:44:57 <Ukto>	beteen mark, his few employees, the office
Feb 24 08:45:12 <Ukto>	his office is expensive
Feb 24 08:45:17 <Ukto>	but not THAT expensive
Feb 24 08:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	im too lazy to dig up the data, but most of 2012 they ran in the red.
Feb 24 08:45:33 <Ukto>	it was only like.. 5 small offices off of a hallway
Feb 24 08:45:36 <thestringpuller>	15k-18k btc per day in transaction volume for SR based on 2012 figures
Feb 24 08:45:41 <thestringpuller>	^ mircea_popescu
Feb 24 08:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	link ?
Feb 24 08:47:53 <thestringpuller>	;;google arstechnica silk road
Feb 24 08:47:53 <gribble>	Study estimates $2 million a month in Bitcoin drug sales | Ars Technica: <http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/study-estimates-2-million-a-month-in-bitcoin-drug-sales/>; Feds shutter online narcotics store that used TOR to ... - Ars Technica: <http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/04/feds-shutter-online-narcotics-store-that-used-tor-to-hide-its-tracks.ars>; (1 more message)
Feb 24 08:47:58 <thestringpuller>	^- mircea_popescu
Feb 24 08:48:10 <thestringpuller>	first link
Feb 24 08:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	dude.
Feb 24 08:48:35 <mircea_popescu>	some clueless noob calling his farting "a study" is not going to wash in this conversation.
Feb 24 08:48:59 <thestringpuller>	oh you want an abstract and a white paper too?
Feb 24 08:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Feb 24 08:49:05 <Ukto>	I do
Feb 24 08:49:14 <Ukto>	Produced br SR themselves.
Feb 24 08:49:15 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 24 08:49:22 <Ukto>	by
Feb 24 08:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	absent a statement from the owner itself, i want to see the estimate of someone i know and respect.
Feb 24 08:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise, we might as well steal the numbers off of RIAA/MPAA's piracy estimates
Feb 24 08:49:41 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: does that person exist? someone you know and respect? ;)
Feb 24 08:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	or for that matter, off of Bush's wmd's estimates.
Feb 24 08:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto surely.
Feb 24 08:50:01 <Ukto>	hehe
Feb 24 08:50:01 <thestringpuller>	then pay someone to make an estimate otherwise you can't discount them as competition
Feb 24 08:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller that's neither here nor there.
Feb 24 08:50:27 <thestringpuller>	with that logic only yourself and smickles are elgible to run the study :P
Feb 24 08:50:31 <mircea_popescu>	you wish to propose something exists, you'll have to do a lot better than that.
Feb 24 08:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller dooglus can, if he feels like it.
Feb 24 08:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	for that matter the owner himself can come out and make monthly statements like everyone else.
Feb 24 08:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	not such a big deal.
Feb 24 08:53:45 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller but you do bring an interesting point. in spite of 1mn words being written a week into this channel, there's an incredible dearth of people doing useful stuff, such as, keeping a blog with good quality research.
Feb 24 08:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	consequently, the headcount of "known and respected" is dismal.
Feb 24 08:54:35 <Namworld>	I'm the one who make tools around here =/
Feb 24 08:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 595 @ 0.00062798 = 0.3736 BTC [+]
Feb 24 08:54:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062797 = 1.5699 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:54:36 <thestringpuller>	That's not for you to decide, one scientist performs and experiment publishes results. Another verifies.
Feb 24 08:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062444 = 3.1222 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:54:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10210 @ 0.00062443 = 6.3754 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:54:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11147 @ 0.00062432 = 6.9593 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:54:50 <thestringpuller>	If enough people verify then it's valid.
Feb 24 08:54:51 <Namworld>	Seen my update to my options calculator tool, mircea?
Feb 24 08:56:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11653 @ 0.00062432 = 7.2752 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3611 @ 0.00062389 = 2.2529 BTC [-]
Feb 24 08:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller that's not how reality works i'm affraid.
Feb 24 08:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i think not
Feb 24 08:58:21 <thestringpuller>	so who determines reality?
Feb 24 08:58:27 <thestringpuller>	you?
Feb 24 08:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	agreement doth not reality make.
Feb 24 08:58:54 <mircea_popescu>	and absent actual experiments (which did NOT occur) the agreement is by definition agreement of idiots.
Feb 24 08:59:53 <thestringpuller>	could you rephrase the above stament?
Feb 24 09:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	why/into what/why/etc
Feb 24 09:00:29 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGxfRk5SS0hxT1lsVmdLdU1QY0RveGc#gid=0
Feb 24 09:00:56 <Namworld>	You can change the price you expect the average to reach and see ROI at execution.
Feb 24 09:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld o interesting!
Feb 24 09:01:15 <Namworld>	So you can select options with the most return per BTC, based on current asks
Feb 24 09:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	hey listen, why don't you make a single value ?
Feb 24 09:01:18 <mircea_popescu>	something like this :
Feb 24 09:01:25 <thestringpuller>	Does this use black-scholes?
Feb 24 09:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	go into the vwap json, calculate the implicit breakeven of each option line
Feb 24 09:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	then average this weighted by the volume of that line
Feb 24 09:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	and publish the final result.
Feb 24 09:02:20 <thestringpuller>	^- that would be very useful
Feb 24 09:02:32 <Namworld>	then average this weighted by the volume of that line << what do you mean by that?
Feb 24 09:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine you would get a bunch of people going there daily just to check that
Feb 24 09:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i give you an example.
Feb 24 09:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	"O.BTCUSD.C310T": {"1d": {"avg": "","min": "","max": "","vsh": "","vsa": "","cnt": ""}, "7d": {"avg": "28103279","min": "28103279","max": "28103279","vsh": "10","vsa": "281032790","cnt": "1"}, "30d": {"avg": "28103279","min": "28103279","max": "28103279","vsh": "10","vsa": "281032790","cnt": "1"}}
Feb 24 09:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	"O.BTCUSD.C220T": {"1d": {"avg": "","min": "","max": "","vsh": "","vsa": "","cnt": ""}, "7d": {"avg": "20577298","min": "20577298","max": "20577298","vsh": "3","vsa": "61731894","cnt": "1"}, "30d": {"avg": "19660880","min": "18744462","max": "20577298","vsh": "6","vsa": "117965280","cnt": "2"}}
Feb 24 09:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	now, working on the 7d averages
Feb 24 09:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	in the case of 310 breakeven is x, in the case of 220 breakeven is y
Feb 24 09:04:45 <mircea_popescu>	final value = (x * 281032790 + y * 61731894) / (281032790 +61731894)
Feb 24 09:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1291 @ 0.00603899 = 7.7963 BTC [+]
Feb 24 09:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00603899 = 0.0604 BTC [+]
Feb 24 09:05:13 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is there away to get the STATJSON without mpex account?
Feb 24 09:05:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1196 @ 0.00590307 = 7.0601 BTC [-]
Feb 24 09:05:30 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller no, inasmuch as it's the statjson of that account.
Feb 24 09:06:14 <thestringpuller>	how do we get ticker json of mpex?
Feb 24 09:06:17 <Namworld>	final value = (x * 281032790 + y * 61731894) / (281032790 +61731894)
Feb 24 09:06:25 <Namworld>	what is that supposed to represent?
Feb 24 09:06:37 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller that's in the faq dood. http://mpex.co/faq.html#11
Feb 24 09:06:51 <thestringpuller>	you update the faq so much
Feb 24 09:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld a sort of "btc value implied by option contracts"
Feb 24 09:06:59 <thestringpuller>	I don't know when to recheck it :P
Feb 24 09:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	allthetime:D
Feb 24 09:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	this has been there for > 6 months
Feb 24 09:07:25 <Namworld>	But that requires to mix the result for two set of options...
Feb 24 09:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 24 09:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	well, don't mix t and n
Feb 24 09:07:39 <mircea_popescu>	but mix p and c
Feb 24 09:08:04 <Namworld>	I don't think I can do that
Feb 24 09:08:07 <thestringpuller>	makes it better to price options...
Feb 24 09:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	why not ?!
Feb 24 09:08:28 <Namworld>	I'd need to let someone select the two to mix
Feb 24 09:08:40 <mircea_popescu>	no Namworld you mix all.
Feb 24 09:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	you just take the entire vwap list and calc the average for everything there.
Feb 24 09:08:51 <Namworld>	ALL?
Feb 24 09:08:54 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Feb 24 09:09:02 <Namworld>	hmm
Feb 24 09:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	pick something, like t 7d and that's it.
Feb 24 09:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	out comes a number.
Feb 24 09:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	which whiole not precise, will be a MUCH better guess than any other guess someone makes.
Feb 24 09:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	you can also publish the result of the (281032790 +61731894) sum
Feb 24 09:09:37 <thestringpuller>	guess for what?
Feb 24 09:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	so people know how much btc that guess has behind it
Feb 24 09:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller for next week's btc price i think
Feb 24 09:10:07 <thestringpuller>	oh I see
Feb 24 09:11:23 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu what would be a better way to calculate options?
Feb 24 09:11:46 <thestringpuller>	i think if the calculator had current asks at all times it would be interesting
Feb 24 09:13:36 <ThickAsThieves>	catching up on chat log, here is the github for what dooglus uses (or at least based his work on) to do SDICE reports https://github.com/etotheipi/BitcoinArmory/tree/master/extras
Feb 24 09:13:50 <ThickAsThieves>	would love to see someone implement that on a dynamic web page
Feb 24 09:14:05 <ThickAsThieves>	or even generate reports on a more freq sched than doog
Feb 24 09:14:27 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 24 09:14:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.56003, Best ask: 29.66000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09997, Last trade: 29.66000, 24 hour volume: 37518.33733560, 24 hour low: 28.00000, 24 hour high: 29.97000, 24 hour vwap: 28.92295
Feb 24 09:15:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.11979 BTC [+]
Feb 24 09:16:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1198 BTC [+]
Feb 24 09:16:58 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/d/A8/2WDF9SMB/sierra-mpex.png
Feb 24 09:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	a thanks ThickAsThieves
Feb 24 09:22:28 <mircea_popescu>	i was etotheipi!
Feb 24 09:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	jesys hard name to remember
Feb 24 09:22:59 <ThickAsThieves>	np
Feb 24 09:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla cool stuff!
Feb 24 09:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder <kakobrekla> http://shrani.si/f/d/A8/2WDF9SMB/sierra-mpex.png
Feb 24 09:23:21 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Feb 24 09:24:39 <ThickAsThieves>	what is a kakobrekla? that word gets like stuck in my head
Feb 24 09:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla is "that's what she said" in turkmenistani
Feb 24 09:26:25 <kakobrekla>	:DDDD
Feb 24 09:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10347 @ 0.00062996 = 6.5182 BTC [+]
Feb 24 09:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9189 @ 0.00062533 = 5.7462 BTC [-]
Feb 24 09:27:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5370 @ 0.0006239 = 3.3503 BTC [-]
Feb 24 09:27:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139 @ 0.00062389 = 0.0867 BTC [-]
Feb 24 09:27:10 <thestringpuller>	;;google slinky on an escalator
Feb 24 09:27:11 <gribble>	Slinky + Escalator = WIN - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIPK2NQ85Fc>; GEICO Slinky Commercial - Happier Than A Slinky On An Escalator ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOUbW2A-e2Q>; Slinky vs Escalator - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJw0L7fxbF4>
Feb 24 09:27:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3655 @ 0.00062379 = 2.28 BTC [-]
Feb 24 09:27:21 <mircea_popescu>	not to be confused with kako braka
Feb 24 09:27:25 <mircea_popescu>	which is different somehow
Feb 24 09:27:50 <ThickAsThieves>	i had to look up if turkmenistani was a real thing
Feb 24 09:27:57 <Namworld>	How to calculate breakeven... what formula...
Feb 24 09:28:59 <Namworld>	arf, after a sleepless night I got a hard time to think
Feb 24 09:29:35 <Namworld>	I have Ask = A, Struck = S, Weighted = W, trying to find what weighted gives the ask.
Feb 24 09:29:40 <kakobrekla>	ya, you look at what you paid, what you got and how much is worth
Feb 24 09:29:57 <Namworld>	So I have a formula as (W - S)/ W = A
Feb 24 09:30:12 <Namworld>	Now I need to rewrite that as a function of W...
Feb 24 09:30:41 <Namworld>	To have a formula based on ask to calculate weighted needed to breakeven...
Feb 24 09:33:42 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld forget weighted.
Feb 24 09:34:11 <mircea_popescu>	if call is struck at 31 and price paid was 0.15
Feb 24 09:34:24 <mircea_popescu>	then you have (x - 31 / x) = .15
Feb 24 09:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	get the x, the WEIGH THAT
Feb 24 09:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	i mean  (x - 31) / x = .15 obviously
Feb 24 09:39:38 <Namworld>	You still can't find X...
Feb 24 09:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	...
Feb 24 09:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	1 - 31/x = .15
Feb 24 09:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	.85 = 31/x
Feb 24 09:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	x = 31/.85
Feb 24 09:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5370 @ 0.0006318 = 3.3928 BTC [+]
Feb 24 09:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 595 @ 0.00063181 = 0.3759 BTC [+]
Feb 24 09:42:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063182 = 3.1591 BTC [+]
Feb 24 09:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063183 = 2.7301 BTC [+]
Feb 24 09:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1114 @ 0.00063187 = 0.7039 BTC [+]
Feb 24 09:46:15 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 31/.85
Feb 24 09:46:15 <gribble>	36.4705882353
Feb 24 09:46:36 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: that's the formula smickles uses...
Feb 24 09:47:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-free-cash-machine/
Feb 24 09:49:38 <thestringpuller>	that article makes me mad
Feb 24 09:49:58 <Namworld>	arf, god am I sleepy. Of course >.>
Feb 24 09:50:27 <thestringpuller>	grrr down with popescu grrrr
Feb 24 09:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller eh ?
Feb 24 09:51:57 <thestringpuller>	weren't you the one to tell me btc isn't for consumers?
Feb 24 09:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	it isn't.
Feb 24 09:54:02 <thestringpuller>	so why give "free money away" to consumers :P
Feb 24 09:54:13 <mircea_popescu>	it's not to consumers.
Feb 24 09:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	the average atm withdrawal is like 50 bux
Feb 24 09:54:27 <mircea_popescu>	i bet you the average here would be north of 500
Feb 24 09:54:38 <thestringpuller>	so why would anyone want fiat over btc?
Feb 24 09:54:52 <mircea_popescu>	keep all your wealth in btc, pay bills or w/e in cash
Feb 24 09:55:08 <kakobrekla>	i do that
Feb 24 09:55:24 <thestringpuller>	you can do that without a cash machine that will costs billions to implement.....
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Feb 24 09:55:48 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller you don't get 2 bn worth of in your face plebs neener without spending 2bn to implement it.
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Feb 24 09:56:17 <thestringpuller>	come again?
Feb 24 09:57:00 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller (you don't get) (2 bn worth of ((in your face plebs) neener)) (without spending 2bn (to implement it)).
Feb 24 09:57:08 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 24 09:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Feb 24 09:57:44 <thestringpuller>	:P
Feb 24 09:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla dude that sierra chart...
Feb 24 10:00:01 <mircea_popescu>	it looks like a stock!
Feb 24 10:00:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6222 @ 0.006 = 37.332 BTC [+]
Feb 24 10:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00606656 = 12.1331 BTC [+]
Feb 24 10:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00606657 = 10.3132 BTC [+]
Feb 24 10:00:10 <kakobrekla>	cause it is? :)
Feb 24 10:00:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 78 @ 0.00637978 = 0.4976 BTC [+]
Feb 24 10:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	for srsly!
Feb 24 10:00:57 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: where'd you get all the data from since mr. popescu permaseals mpex trades
Feb 24 10:01:19 <kakobrekla>	i steal from assbot.
Feb 24 10:01:27 <thestringpuller>	*le sigh*
Feb 24 10:01:31 <kakobrekla>	what
Feb 24 10:01:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.675 = 2.7 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:01:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.672 = 10.08 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:01:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.671 = 2.013 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:01:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.664 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:01:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.664 = 9.96 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:01:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.656 = 9.84 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:01:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.648 = 9.72 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:01:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.64 = 9.6 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:01:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.64 = 10.88 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:05:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.00527 = 0.527 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:06:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.00527 = 0.527 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:06:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 43 @ 0.00526 = 0.2262 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:06:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.00521 = 0.521 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:06:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 18 @ 0.00516 = 0.0929 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 10:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00624859 = 9.6853 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:09:30 <kakobrekla>	ok last one
Feb 24 10:09:32 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/23/qk/30Si8ztN/mpex.png
Feb 24 10:09:41 <kakobrekla>	this ones for the front page trilema :p
Feb 24 10:10:18 <thestringpuller>	i like how it says forex data lol
Feb 24 10:10:27 <thestringpuller>	what other ventures do you run besides bit4x
Feb 24 10:10:36 <kakobrekla>	bitbet
Feb 24 10:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062416 = 2.697 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6012 @ 0.00062397 = 3.7513 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:10:40 <thestringpuller>	besides that
Feb 24 10:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5269 @ 0.00062396 = 3.2876 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:10:46 <kakobrekla>	ur mom
Feb 24 10:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6545 @ 0.00062379 = 4.0827 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00062374 = 1.3722 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:10:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8698 @ 0.00062107 = 5.4021 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1855 @ 0.00062083 = 1.1516 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:10:57 <thestringpuller>	UR MOM
Feb 24 10:11:05 <mjr__>	how did dividends already come out for mpoe?
Feb 24 10:11:07 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla!  (that's what she said)
Feb 24 10:11:10 <thestringpuller>	friday
Feb 24 10:11:20 <assbot>	 no ur mom.
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Feb 24 10:12:22 <mjr__>	don't they come out at the end of the month?
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Feb 24 10:13:22 <thestringpuller>	it is the end of the month
Feb 24 10:13:25 <thestringpuller>	last friday of the month
Feb 24 10:13:50 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 24 10:13:50 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 3 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 24 10:14:49 <mjr__>	ah ok
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Feb 24 10:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ end of options month. last friday
Feb 24 10:20:11 <mjr__>	ah ok
Feb 24 10:20:20 <mjr__>	cool
Feb 24 10:21:05 <mjr__>	statements come out end of month though right? or up to 5 days into the next month?
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Feb 24 10:29:40 <thestringpuller>	no that friday
Feb 24 10:29:45 <thestringpuller>	mircea is good about financials
Feb 24 10:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ they're out already
Feb 24 10:30:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1689 @ 0.00063168 = 1.0669 BTC [+]
Feb 24 10:31:00 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu I have some research for you.
Feb 24 10:31:06 <thestringpuller>	that you may find interesting :P
Feb 24 10:31:10 <thestringpuller>	ALBEIT NOT CREDIBLE
Feb 24 10:34:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063048 = 3.1524 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:39:47 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: how many active users does mpex have? just curious
Feb 24 10:39:56 <Ukto>	pm if you want. wont repeat it :)
Feb 24 10:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/mpex-paid-accounts
Feb 24 10:41:52 <kakobrekla>	aha
Feb 24 10:42:01 <kakobrekla>	time to recheck the blockchain chart
Feb 24 10:42:04 <kakobrekla>	http://blockchain.info/charts/my-wallet-n-users
Feb 24 10:42:07 <kakobrekla>	still going.
Feb 24 10:42:41 <BitHub>	Nice Mircea
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Feb 24 10:47:51 <BitHub>	lul @ the only bitcoin service that has never been hacked.
Feb 24 10:47:58 <BitHub>	sounds like a invitation?
Feb 24 10:48:35 <thestringpuller>	social hack it
Feb 24 10:48:48 <thestringpuller>	using the facebooks and twitter
Feb 24 10:51:31 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 24 10:51:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.80001, Best ask: 29.85011, Bid-ask spread: 0.05010, Last trade: 29.80001, 24 hour volume: 29443.58889373, 24 hour low: 28.02009, 24 hour high: 29.97000, 24 hour vwap: 29.27130
Feb 24 10:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.0061 = 12.81 BTC [-]
Feb 24 10:57:19 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla does bitbet have an API yet?
Feb 24 10:58:40 <kakobrekla>	not really
Feb 24 10:59:06 <thestringpuller>	it's going to be useful in the future due to the way
Feb 24 10:59:12 <thestringpuller>	it creates the betting line
Feb 24 10:59:41 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Feb 24 11:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub yah. also, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ycgm8/freeforall_pentesting_on_mpex/
Feb 24 11:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller what would an api do you can't do as it is tho ?
Feb 24 11:00:38 <kakobrekla>	ill give you 1300 btc if you hack mt4
Feb 24 11:00:39 <kakobrekla>	:p
Feb 24 11:01:00 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you know that ad agencies use reddit to help predict virality no?
Feb 24 11:01:23 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think "ad agencies" have a clue about anything.
Feb 24 11:01:30 <BitHub>	nice mircea buy why reward so cheeeap?
Feb 24 11:01:34 <BitHub>	but&
Feb 24 11:01:55 <thestringpuller>	bitbet is far more useful, it creates an effective betting line
Feb 24 11:01:58 <mircea_popescu>	hey, knuth pays 2 dollars.
Feb 24 11:02:19 <BitHub>	i saw the best betting site the other day
Feb 24 11:02:23 <BitHub>	they actually did it right
Feb 24 11:02:30 <BitHub>	proper odds
Feb 24 11:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	and also http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/wikipedia-the-special-olympics-for-the-mentally-retarded/
Feb 24 11:03:10 <BitHub>	http://blockbet.net/
Feb 24 11:04:16 <thestringpuller>	 things that are paid for grow and develop, things that aren't wither and go away << how about linux?
Feb 24 11:05:46 <mircea_popescu>	it is paid for.
Feb 24 11:07:23 <thestringpuller>	Is it?
Feb 24 11:07:35 <thestringpuller>	;)
Feb 24 11:08:36 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 24 11:08:43 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222887 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 888 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 0 hours, 24 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4309344.79843 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.03153
Feb 24 11:11:46 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 24 11:11:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.92378, Best ask: 29.94998, Bid-ask spread: 0.02620, Last trade: 29.94999, 24 hour volume: 29511.56644135, 24 hour low: 28.02009, 24 hour high: 29.97000, 24 hour vwap: 29.32205
Feb 24 11:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063167 = 3.1584 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4323 @ 0.00063168 = 2.7308 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:17:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 990 @ 0.00063169 = 0.6254 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:19:17 <thestringpuller>	;;calc .011 * 30
Feb 24 11:19:17 <gribble>	0.33
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Feb 24 11:20:53 <Namworld>	hey mircea... that's exactly what I was talking about for sports bet
Feb 24 11:21:25 <Namworld>	anyway, I'm off
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Feb 24 11:21:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9681 @ 0.00063048 = 6.1037 BTC [-]
Feb 24 11:23:19 <thestringpuller>	blockbet is awesome
Feb 24 11:26:52 <BitHub>	:)
Feb 24 11:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3331 @ 0.00063169 = 2.1042 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4469 @ 0.00063187 = 2.8238 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:33:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4219 @ 0.00063048 = 2.66 BTC [-]
Feb 24 11:33:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062634 = 2.7064 BTC [-]
Feb 24 11:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5033 @ 0.00062633 = 3.1523 BTC [-]
Feb 24 11:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062632 = 3.57 BTC [-]
Feb 24 11:34:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4677 @ 0.00062239 = 2.9109 BTC [-]
Feb 24 11:34:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4088 @ 0.00063187 = 2.5831 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063408 = 2.7399 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:34:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5414 @ 0.00063409 = 3.433 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 11:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063379 = 2.7386 BTC [-]
Feb 24 11:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063392 = 2.7392 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:37:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11404 @ 0.00063409 = 7.2312 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 11:38:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2054 @ 0.0006354 = 1.3051 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062669 = 2.7079 BTC [-]
Feb 24 11:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10256 @ 0.00062642 = 6.4246 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 11:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3040 @ 0.00063555 = 1.9321 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 11:48:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0059 = 0.118 BTC [-]
Feb 24 11:49:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063583 = 6.3583 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063584 = 10.1734 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 11:50:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 660 @ 0.00063584 = 0.4197 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1887 @ 0.00063585 = 1.1998 BTC [+]
Feb 24 11:50:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4753 @ 0.00063702 = 3.0278 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5810 @ 0.00063555 = 3.6925 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:02:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2990 @ 0.00062671 = 1.8739 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:12:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6350 @ 0.0061 = 38.735 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:12:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 122 @ 0.00637978 = 0.7783 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:12:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00637979 = 12.7596 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:12:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00637979 = 1.276 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0063798 = 6.3798 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 328 @ 0.00637989 = 2.0926 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:12:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.65 = 16.25 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:12:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.6400001 = 3.84 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:12:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 28 @ 0.64 = 17.92 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:12:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.632 = 9.48 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:12:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:12:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.6241 = 15.6025 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1331 @ 0.00062708 = 0.8346 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4424 @ 0.00062692 = 2.7735 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:17:04 <topace_>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 24 12:17:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.60000000 / 0.6540726 / 0.68100000 (270 shares, 176.59960070 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.67973747 / 0.75100000 (1447 shares, 983.58011202 BTC), 30D: 0.52100000 / 0.66742537 / 0.89000000 (11108 shares, 7413.76098446 BTC)
Feb 24 12:19:48 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.0
Feb 24 12:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3980 @ 0.00062725 = 2.4965 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:21:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062724 = 2.7103 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:21:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11576 @ 0.00062692 = 7.2572 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:21:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00062691 = 1.8807 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:21:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10125 @ 0.0006267 = 6.3453 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6144 @ 0.00062642 = 3.8487 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:21:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5066 @ 0.00062096 = 3.1458 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5038 @ 0.00062083 = 3.1277 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3980 @ 0.00063637 = 2.5328 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:23:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063638 = 2.7498 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:23:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6749 @ 0.00063656 = 4.2961 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 12:26:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062321 = 2.9291 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 12:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3972 @ 0.00062322 = 2.4754 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:36:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6028 @ 0.00062321 = 3.7567 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:37:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14283 @ 0.00062322 = 8.9015 BTC [+]
Feb 24 12:38:22 <aethero>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/ZigGap
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Feb 24 12:54:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:55:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.00988 = 0.0889 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:55:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00984 = 0.0197 BTC [-]
Feb 24 12:55:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.00982 = 0.0786 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 12:56:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 33 @ 0.006 = 0.198 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 13:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062097 = 2.6832 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8272 @ 0.00062085 = 5.1357 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10728 @ 0.00062084 = 6.6604 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:08:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3107 @ 0.00062083 = 1.9289 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:08:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2772 @ 0.00062072 = 1.7206 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 13:11:47 <jurov>	Ukto, congrats!
Feb 24 13:12:24 <jurov>	and aethero, too
Feb 24 13:12:50 <aethero>	Thanks!
Feb 24 13:14:34 <jurov>	um, you forgot to specify whether they shares have voting power
Feb 24 13:14:55 <jurov>	ZigGap shares offer no voting rights. ic
Feb 24 13:14:57 <aethero>	I did specify
Feb 24 13:15:57 <jurov>	hm... and you keep your books in USD and just convert to BTC before div payment?
Feb 24 13:17:00 <jurov>	that may make quite a difference... $907.52 may be only 20BTC if btcusd goes to 45, for example
Feb 24 13:18:28 <jurov>	as compared to 31BTC if converted now
Feb 24 13:18:40 <jurov>	;;ticker
Feb 24 13:18:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.30141, Best ask: 30.30326, Bid-ask spread: 0.00185, Last trade: 30.30141, 24 hour volume: 25292.94444931, 24 hour low: 28.76500, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.65508
Feb 24 13:19:22 <jurov>	oh weekend dip over
Feb 24 13:20:09 <jurov>	aethero ^^^
Feb 24 13:22:39 <aethero>	We keep our books in USD and convert to BTC when payments are due.
Feb 24 13:23:03 <aethero>	It makes things easier for us legally speaking
Feb 24 13:23:37 <jurov>	hm, might be more attractive if you converted every day's earnings into BTC and collected that in the end of the month
Feb 24 13:23:44 <jurov>	and paid out
Feb 24 13:24:03 <jurov>	just my bullish self speaking :D
Feb 24 13:24:28 <aethero>	I'm a bit bearish actually
Feb 24 13:24:47 <aethero>	Not too bad though
Feb 24 13:25:46 <aethero>	That's something to consider
Feb 24 13:30:36 <ThickAsThieves>	grabbed some shares, looks like you'll have your first million shares sold very soon
Feb 24 13:30:57 <aethero>	There is someone depositing BTC right now to get the other 9. So they say./
Feb 24 13:32:15 <aethero>	So you might want to buy now before his confirm :)
Feb 24 13:32:26 <jurov>	i'd buy some, too...if you haven't come on the exact day i have to gather all outstanding cash to buy mpoe bond :(
Feb 24 13:32:57 <jurov>	but if someone wants to buy now without waiting for confirmation and repay me hour or two later...?
Feb 24 13:33:17 <jurov>	pm me ;)
Feb 24 13:37:11 <Ukto>	first mil almost gone
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Feb 24 13:41:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2722 @ 0.00062073 = 1.6896 BTC [+]
Feb 24 13:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4388 @ 0.00062072 = 2.7237 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:41:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32 @ 0.00062012 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32 @ 0.00062012 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:41:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32 @ 0.00062012 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32 @ 0.00062012 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:41:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8810 @ 0.00062007 = 5.4628 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:42:03 <Ukto>	1mil sold
Feb 24 13:42:23 <jurov>	Ukto, asssssbot!
Feb 24 13:42:37 <Ukto>	its so.. asssy
Feb 24 13:42:38 <Ukto>	:P
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Feb 24 13:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00062007 = 5.6736 BTC [-]
Feb 24 13:48:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062007 = 9.3011 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 13:49:52 <Ukto>	another 100k sold :P
Feb 24 13:51:25 <aethero>	Jeeze
Feb 24 13:51:30 <aethero>	I wonder if S.DICE sold this quickly
Feb 24 13:51:40 <Ukto>	btc amount or share vol?
Feb 24 13:51:44 <aethero>	BTC
Feb 24 13:51:54 <Ukto>	hm
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Feb 24 13:56:55 <Ukto>	another 200k sold
Feb 24 13:58:26 <aethero>	Get 'em while they're hot
Feb 24 13:58:46 <aethero>	Price is doubling after this first 10 mil.
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Feb 24 14:03:45 <aethero>	All sold
Feb 24 14:04:05 <Ukto>	and there it was
Feb 24 14:04:08 <Ukto>	8.7mil just sold
Feb 24 14:04:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 340 @ 0.00062007 = 0.2108 BTC [-]
Feb 24 14:04:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12860 @ 0.00062002 = 7.9735 BTC [-]
Feb 24 14:05:18 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Feb 24 14:05:44 <ThickAsThieves>	now that person will try and unload them on the next tranche
Feb 24 14:05:45 <Ukto>	https://bitfunder.com/market <-- 500btc out today to ZigGap :) Congrats Aethero on your first 10mil
Feb 24 14:05:54 <Ukto>	Probably not
Feb 24 14:06:02 <Ukto>	if ppl are smart, these are the shares to hold
Feb 24 14:06:06 <aethero>	Thanks!
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Feb 24 14:06:24 <Ukto>	I bought a few for myself for future prosperity/divs
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Feb 24 14:08:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28390 @ 0.00062002 = 17.6024 BTC [-]
Feb 24 14:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2510 @ 0.00062 = 1.5562 BTC [-]
Feb 24 14:12:33 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer at  4.6 GH/s
Feb 24 14:12:49 <ThickAsThieves>	increasing a little slowly if they wanna have 12 up before march
Feb 24 14:14:12 <Ukto>	From first trade, to last trade, 57minutes to sell 10mil shares for a total of 500btc.
Feb 24 14:16:38 <pigeons>	gh not th?
Feb 24 14:18:08 <ThickAsThieves>	sry
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Feb 24 14:18:45 <ThickAsThieves>	4670.82 GHs currently
Feb 24 14:19:15 <ThickAsThieves>	I believe friedcat noted theyd get to 12TH before March
Feb 24 14:21:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Feb 24 14:21:18 <Ukto>	so far the interesting thing is that no ones posted any of the shares for sale
Feb 24 14:21:19 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4286596.47932 based on data since last change | 4322543.11086 based on data for last three days
Feb 24 14:21:21 <Ukto>	even at a higher price
Feb 24 14:21:37 <ThickAsThieves>	thats good then
Feb 24 14:21:58 <ThickAsThieves>	it's a 20% dividend being waved in our faces
Feb 24 14:22:15 <Ukto>	ThickAsThieves: Told you I had some interesting things upcoming for BF.
Feb 24 14:22:21 <Ukto>	And this.. is just the tip of the iceberg ;)
Feb 24 14:22:27 <ThickAsThieves>	glad to see it
Feb 24 14:22:34 <Ukto>	I have another 4 major assets coming soon
Feb 24 14:22:40 <Ukto>	just asset wise
Feb 24 14:22:49 <ThickAsThieves>	also glad that I learned to keep BTC handy on all the PTs for stuff like this
Feb 24 14:23:07 <ThickAsThieves>	i caught sdice at .0044
Feb 24 14:23:09 <Ukto>	I like ziggap as an asset, esp with the btc market going up. the more BTC sales and the market pushes up, the more earnings ziggap will make
Feb 24 14:23:38 <jurov>	Missed ZigGap IPO? CoinBr.MPBPT-O still open (ask closes in 2 hours) on bitfunder :)
Feb 24 14:24:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm still deciding whther to grab your IDIFFAPR ;)
Feb 24 14:25:02 <jurov>	lol and i'm going to throw in discounted MPBPT-E April in, too
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Feb 24 14:27:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00062294 = 1.1213 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 14:34:10 <Ukto>	someone put up a 1.2mil buy @ 0.00006 https://bitfunder.com/asset/ZigGap  Incase anyone wants to make a quick 20% profit. lol
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Feb 24 14:36:53 <jurov>	CoinBr.MPBPT-E April opened now ;)
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Feb 24 14:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 922 @ 0.00062294 = 0.5744 BTC [+]
Feb 24 14:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062295 = 2.6918 BTC [+]
Feb 24 14:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8272 @ 0.00062321 = 5.1552 BTC [+]
Feb 24 14:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15594 @ 0.00062322 = 9.7185 BTC [+]
Feb 24 14:48:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8451 @ 0.00062322 = 5.2668 BTC [+]
Feb 24 14:48:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8375 @ 0.00062344 = 5.2213 BTC [+]
Feb 24 14:49:14 <Ukto>	6btc shy of hitting 800btc vol today
Feb 24 14:49:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 72 @ 0.006 = 0.432 BTC [+]
Feb 24 14:49:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 28 @ 0.006 = 0.168 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 14:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto if you weren't so stubborn you wouldn't have to go "another 100k sold" manually you know.
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Feb 24 14:51:26 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 24 14:51:27 <Ukto>	its fun :P
Feb 24 14:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	k lol
Feb 24 14:51:46 <Ukto>	besides.. *points @ api*
Feb 24 14:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Feb 24 14:52:03 <Ukto>	api's been in closed beta for a while
Feb 24 14:52:13 <Ukto>	meen making small adjustments to it every day or two
Feb 24 14:52:35 <Ukto>	several ppl signed up for access
Feb 24 14:52:51 <mircea_popescu>	i still don't see your trades in here.
Feb 24 14:53:01 <Ukto>	although I now really need to focus on the "Big Thing"(tm) for BitFunder
Feb 24 14:53:06 <Ukto>	want to make sure its live by the end of the month
Feb 24 14:53:18 <Ukto>	once that is done I will push on all the small stuff
Feb 24 14:53:26 <mircea_popescu>	jus' sayin'.
Feb 24 14:53:37 <Ukto>	I know. Appreciated. :)
Feb 24 14:53:46 <Ukto>	although, its kind of interesting..
Feb 24 14:53:57 <Ukto>	even outsize of ziggap, todays been a high vol day
Feb 24 14:54:01 <Ukto>	even though its a Sunday
Feb 24 14:56:32 <ThickAsThieves>	vol on sdice on BF seems so low to me, considering how many shares
Feb 24 14:56:50 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe only owned by a few people mostly...
Feb 24 14:57:17 <Ukto>	most ppl who bought them on BF en bulk that I have talked to, dont want to sell
Feb 24 14:57:34 <Ukto>	i know the owners of at least 700k shares
Feb 24 14:57:42 <Ukto>	and all agree its worth holding onto for long periods
Feb 24 14:57:52 <Ukto>	and didnt buy the shares to day trade them
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Feb 24 15:01:47 <ThickAsThieves>	no profit for sdice today, someone won the "less than 1"
Feb 24 15:01:58 <ThickAsThieves>	.02BTC = 1279 BTC
Feb 24 15:03:20 <Ukto>	0,o
Feb 24 15:03:24 <Ukto>	wish it was me
Feb 24 15:03:25 <Ukto>	lOL
Feb 24 15:03:42 <Ukto>	thats one hell of a win
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Feb 24 15:03:47 <ThickAsThieves>	it's a letdown for profit, but might be a good pr thing fopr sdice
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Feb 24 15:03:52 <Ukto>	bet someone was jumping for joy
Feb 24 15:04:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol wow.
Feb 24 15:04:01 <Ukto>	some 33,000 usd
Feb 24 15:04:14 <Ukto>	"I jsut won a new car from satoshi dice!"
Feb 24 15:04:19 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Feb 24 15:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly, bet two quarters, take home 35k
Feb 24 15:04:32 <ThickAsThieves>	evoor, spin that shit!
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Feb 24 15:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUx7kWrpQD
Feb 24 15:06:51 <mircea_popescu>	a bitcoin to whoever tells me what's going on in that vid.
Feb 24 15:07:00 <kakobrekla>	This video does not exist.
Feb 24 15:07:05 <kakobrekla>	1btc to me pls
Feb 24 15:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUx7kWrpQDs
Feb 24 15:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	missed an s
Feb 24 15:07:23 <kakobrekla>	i dont care
Feb 24 15:07:30 <kakobrekla>	i did my job!
Feb 24 15:07:41 <mircea_popescu>	fu. you're banned from this contest nao!
Feb 24 15:07:57 <kakobrekla>	scam!
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Feb 24 15:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	totally!
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Feb 24 15:09:22 <dub>	nigga stole my bike?
Feb 24 15:09:42 <ThickAsThieves>	scaring the shit outta some sneaky kid?
Feb 24 15:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	i think dub gets it.
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Feb 24 15:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	kid allegedly triedf to steal a bike, got scared straight (allegedly)
Feb 24 15:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	got an addy ?
Feb 24 15:10:28 <dub>	nah
Feb 24 15:10:33 <dub>	donate it to the foundation :)
Feb 24 15:11:06 <dub>	(I actually don't have an addy because bitcoin sucks)
Feb 24 15:11:21 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, if you are romanian, why do you have such american dialect?
Feb 24 15:11:44 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves because im not speaking french. if i were you'd wonder why am i from paris.
Feb 24 15:12:08 <ThickAsThieves>	yep that went over my head
Feb 24 15:12:20 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont mean why do you speak english
Feb 24 15:12:28 <thestringpuller>	why do you speak english?
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Feb 24 15:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	but if i do speak english, why'd you expect me to speak it different from how it's spoken ?
Feb 24 15:12:47 <thestringpuller>	cause you're not gangsta enough mircea_popescu
Feb 24 15:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	that also.
Feb 24 15:12:54 <thestringpuller>	u ain't talk lik dis
Feb 24 15:13:07 <thestringpuller>	wuz craccn mah homies
Feb 24 15:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	craccn ?!
Feb 24 15:13:25 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess usually foreigners inject some detectable phrasing that isnt "american"
Feb 24 15:13:26 <thestringpuller>	crackin'
Feb 24 15:13:44 <ThickAsThieves>	but i must underestimate how easy it is to "get it"
Feb 24 15:13:53 <ThickAsThieves>	i feel like our language is fucked up
Feb 24 15:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	all languages are fucked up
Feb 24 15:14:11 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what do you tihnk of this ziggap business?
Feb 24 15:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean what do i think ?
Feb 24 15:14:32 <dub>	I think its the number one way to exchange USD for bitcoins
Feb 24 15:14:37 <dub>	whcih is why I've never heard of it
Feb 24 15:14:39 <aethero>	We're not an exchange.
Feb 24 15:14:47 *	aethero is on the ziggap team
Feb 24 15:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol that worked.
Feb 24 15:14:52 <dub>	you might want to edit your post then
Feb 24 15:14:57 <thestringpuller>	Are you allowed to list on a BTC exchange?
Feb 24 15:15:03 <dub>	since thats what it says
Feb 24 15:15:05 <aethero>	Show me?
Feb 24 15:15:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 540 @ 0.0062 = 3.348 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:15:21 <Ukto>	should be "to purchase bitcoins for cash"
Feb 24 15:15:24 <Ukto>	not exchange
Feb 24 15:15:27 <Ukto>	if the word was used somewhere
Feb 24 15:15:29 <Ukto>	it shouldnt have been
Feb 24 15:15:32 <aethero>	Direct sales != echange
Feb 24 15:15:34 <Ukto>	but techncially its the same thing
Feb 24 15:15:43 <dub>	still, calling yourself number one when you in fact don't exist
Feb 24 15:15:50 <aethero>	Who said number 1?
Feb 24 15:15:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20 @ 0.0062 = 0.124 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:16:00 <dub>	ZigGap stands on top as the most trusted method for converting USD cash directly to BTC
Feb 24 15:16:12 <Ukto>	dub: its true..
Feb 24 15:16:14 <aethero>	On the top in what way?
Feb 24 15:16:22 <Ukto>	there is only one other company
Feb 24 15:16:26 <Ukto>	that does what ziggap does
Feb 24 15:16:28 <dub>	aethero: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.0
Feb 24 15:16:33 <Ukto>	besides, its an opinion
Feb 24 15:16:34 <Ukto>	not fact.
Feb 24 15:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	i thought that's what the death and taxes guy did
Feb 24 15:17:13 <dub>	Our company is dedicated to the furtherance of what bitcoin will soon become.
Feb 24 15:17:14 <Ukto>	as i said, its just an opinion. not worth kicking anyone over ;)
Feb 24 15:17:17 <dub>	english motherfuckers
Feb 24 15:17:21 <dub>	spaek it
Feb 24 15:17:25 <Ukto>	dub: dont be so hateful lol.
Feb 24 15:17:33 <aethero>	i du spaek et ful.
Feb 24 15:17:36 <dub>	don't post retarded waffle
Feb 24 15:17:41 <Ukto>	but that could use some better wording
Feb 24 15:17:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7654 @ 0.00062343 = 4.7717 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:18:01 <Ukto>	actually, that line could just deleted aethero
Feb 24 15:18:07 <Ukto>	serves no real purpose I think
Feb 24 15:18:20 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu DeathAndTaxes is primarily focused on: https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/
Feb 24 15:18:32 <mjr__>	jurov: is there an easy way to get average price for positions?
Feb 24 15:18:48 <jurov>	mjr__ in coinbr?
Feb 24 15:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller iirc there were two sister sites or no ?
Feb 24 15:18:57 <mjr__>	yeah
Feb 24 15:19:12 <thestringpuller>	I think he "closed them" or thinks of em as less priority?
Feb 24 15:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	oh is it ?
Feb 24 15:19:33 <jurov>	um, no... one has to copy the table to spreadsheet
Feb 24 15:19:42 <mjr__>	yeah, that's how i'm doing it now
Feb 24 15:19:51 <mjr__>	but it is hard to split up into categories
Feb 24 15:21:08 <mjr__>	unless there is a quicker way that i don't know
Feb 24 15:21:35 <jurov>	autofilter (on transaction type), average
Feb 24 15:21:37 <thestringpuller>	(32 - 29) / 32
Feb 24 15:21:46 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (32 - 29) / 32
Feb 24 15:21:46 <gribble>	0.09375
Feb 24 15:22:01 <jurov>	but would be nice to have it in coinbr, i see
Feb 24 15:22:27 <Ukto>	if shes hot, I wouldnt mind paying for different positions. :P
Feb 24 15:22:39 <Ukto>	needs to be clean tho.
Feb 24 15:22:54 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: You got the hookups in Romania, right? ;)
Feb 24 15:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	yes dood. i got all the hookups in romania. locked in my basement.
Feb 24 15:23:24 <mircea_popescu>	with my beers in romania and any and all bears.
Feb 24 15:23:26 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 24 15:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Feb 24 15:24:11 <mjr__>	ah, i haven't used the autofilter, i was just using sort
Feb 24 15:24:19 <mjr__>	that would actually make it relatively simple
Feb 24 15:24:24 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: :)
Feb 24 15:24:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062036 = 2.6806 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:24:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8179 @ 0.00062001 = 5.0711 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:24:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.687 BTC [+]
Feb 24 15:24:53 <jurov>	that's really important market indicator, average price of positions
Feb 24 15:24:55 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 24 15:24:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.55001, Best ask: 29.77800, Bid-ask spread: 0.22799, Last trade: 29.55000, 24 hour volume: 28470.05925074, 24 hour low: 28.93969, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.74696
Feb 24 15:27:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.688 = 4.128 BTC [+]
Feb 24 15:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	jurov namworld was sorta starting to do something about it earlier
Feb 24 15:28:27 <mircea_popescu>	course he ran into algebraic trouble :D
Feb 24 15:28:30 <error4733>	haha mp cheap mobile home in your country
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Feb 24 15:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136173632847.gif isn't that a nice house.
Feb 24 15:29:09 <error4733>	but still a huge WIN for 0.50$ !!
Feb 24 15:29:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00065 = 0.065 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 http://www.mhbay.com/
Feb 24 15:29:40 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Feb 24 15:29:47 <error4733>	50€ house lol
Feb 24 15:30:17 <jurov>	yes, i saw namworld's spreadsheet, clearly not finished yet
Feb 24 15:31:25 <error4733>	wow cheap... cable include ? u need FOX if you stay in a mobile home
Feb 24 15:31:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.689 = 6.89 BTC [+]
Feb 24 15:32:20 <jurov>	fox doesn't have free satellite broadcast?
Feb 24 15:32:39 <error4733>	i hope not
Feb 24 15:32:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov http://pastebin.com/NbLimjFj
Feb 24 15:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	that's the convo
Feb 24 15:33:13 <error4733>	i case some alien get the signal
Feb 24 15:33:47 <jurov>	mircea i know, i came later and just skipped it, seemed too painful
Feb 24 15:33:56 <error4733>	worst thing broadcasted ever :/
Feb 24 15:34:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 24 15:35:42 <jurov>	"you update the faq so much" lol
Feb 24 15:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Feb 24 15:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	hey, anyone know when glbse actually started ?
Feb 24 15:38:04 <mjr__>	by the way mp, i really like the per share that you list now
Feb 24 15:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__ ty! sometimes the needed improvements are hidden in plain sight
Feb 24 15:39:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7777 @ 0.00062312 = 4.846 BTC [+]
Feb 24 15:39:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062313 = 2.6925 BTC [+]
Feb 24 15:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3112 @ 0.00062343 = 1.9401 BTC [+]
Feb 24 15:39:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3663 @ 0.00062344 = 2.2837 BTC [+]
Feb 24 15:39:24 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457.0
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Feb 24 15:40:00 <jurov>	with some fun thrown it...AlpacaStocks lol
Feb 24 15:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	so wait!
Feb 24 15:40:13 <mircea_popescu>	born april 2011, dead august 2012 ?
Feb 24 15:40:17 <mircea_popescu>	like a year and a half total ?
Feb 24 15:40:27 <jurov>	yes like that
Feb 24 15:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	mmmkay.
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Feb 24 15:40:57 <mircea_popescu>	can't believe they paid 20 btc for someone to come up with "glbse" as a good name
Feb 24 15:41:49 <mjr__>	lol
Feb 24 15:41:57 <mjr__>	and yeah, it's the little things :)
Feb 24 15:42:07 <mjr__>	i like being able to notice the changes you amke
Feb 24 15:42:08 <mjr__>	make
Feb 24 15:42:12 <jurov>	official announcement https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5947.0
Feb 24 15:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	ty jurov
Feb 24 15:43:08 <jurov>	mircea_popescu , you stopped posting bondholders lists with requested interest?
Feb 24 15:43:13 <dub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pp89tTDxXuI
Feb 24 15:43:24 <dub>	this is so cool
Feb 24 15:43:45 <dub>	think about mitigating any gravity related risk of injury
Feb 24 15:44:14 <dub>	plane falling out of sky? eject passengers and swarm of these to catch them
Feb 24 15:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	jurov no ?
Feb 24 15:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	dub that'd be almost as cool as bitocins
Feb 24 15:45:45 <jurov>	no? where are they? in mpoe report is only final mpbor, not the other lower rates
Feb 24 15:46:16 <mircea_popescu>	a, that was always the case.
Feb 24 15:46:29 <mircea_popescu>	you see addresses and sums up to the final
Feb 24 15:48:01 <jurov>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-rezultate-aprilie-2012/#comment-82627 there is one listed with 4.975%
Feb 24 15:48:19 <jurov>	i thought that was cause he asked for less
Feb 24 15:48:21 <FabianB>	what's a mobile home?
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Feb 24 15:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov a yes, i used to reprint old ones, but once people got the ability to change their interest rates it became impractical.
Feb 24 15:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	you're right tho, it wasn't "always" the case.
Feb 24 15:52:17 <pigeons>	FabianB: "manufactured ousing"
Feb 24 15:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00062004 = 4.6193 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:52:48 <jurov>	i wanted to see data... cuz i was trolled on forum a bit when i said "interesting the rate ended up the same as i announced for MPBPT"
Feb 24 15:52:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+]
Feb 24 15:53:21 <FabianB>	pigeons: ah, not in the sense today in NY tomorrow in LA
Feb 24 15:53:39 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1554156#msg1554156
Feb 24 15:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB i think it's those transformed busses/trucks
Feb 24 15:54:12 <pigeons>	over here those are "motor homes" (rv's)
Feb 24 15:54:25 <pigeons>	manufactured housing is called mobile homes here
Feb 24 15:55:32 <pigeons>	cause it wasnt asbuilt on the lot it was assembled and brought there
Feb 24 15:55:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1186 @ 0.00062004 = 0.7354 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:55:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062003 = 2.6791 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:55:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7777 @ 0.00062002 = 4.8219 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:55:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2587 @ 0.00062001 = 1.604 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:55:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5090 @ 0.00062 = 3.1558 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8089 @ 0.00061986 = 5.014 BTC [-]
Feb 24 15:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
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Feb 24 16:02:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 20 @ 0.0218 = 0.436 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 16:03:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.349 BTC [-]
Feb 24 16:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2458 @ 0.00062333 = 1.5321 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062334 = 2.6935 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:05:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8636 @ 0.00062343 = 5.3839 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20019 @ 0.00062344 = 12.4806 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:05:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00062463 = 3.3418 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:05:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8869 @ 0.00062737 = 5.5641 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:05:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00062785 = 13.7499 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:05:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062949 = 5.0044 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:05:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00063218 = 1.8333 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17597 @ 0.00063336 = 11.1452 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:06:21 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: how much would you sell me price data for?
Feb 24 16:06:48 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 24 16:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (25 shares, 1.90 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06613044 / 0.089 (363 shares, 24.01 BTC)
Feb 24 16:07:50 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 24 16:07:53 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222916 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 859 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 9 hours, 39 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4287733.20605 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.43959
Feb 24 16:08:04 <thestringpuller>	;;estimate
Feb 24 16:08:05 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4287733.20605 based on data since last change | 4324634.0572 based on data for last three days
Feb 24 16:08:59 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 24 16:09:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.64002, Best ask: 29.78260, Bid-ask spread: 0.14258, Last trade: 29.78399, 24 hour volume: 27744.43316417, 24 hour low: 29.12001, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.77251
Feb 24 16:09:06 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 30
Feb 24 16:09:07 <gribble>	There are currently 1698.3492 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 50824.8847514 USD in total.
Feb 24 16:09:26 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29
Feb 24 16:09:28 <gribble>	There are currently 1866.1768 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 54305.1474477 USD in total.
Feb 24 16:10:00 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29.50
Feb 24 16:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062066 = 2.6819 BTC [-]
Feb 24 16:10:04 <gribble>	There are currently 36.722034 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.5 USD, worth 1086.11120359 USD in total.
Feb 24 16:10:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2458 @ 0.00062048 = 1.5251 BTC [-]
Feb 24 16:10:07 <kakobrekla>	thestringpuller, theres only a few days of data there, its more about the stream
Feb 24 16:10:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00062047 = 6.1737 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 16:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15263 @ 0.00061986 = 9.4609 BTC [-]
Feb 24 16:18:11 <jurov>	thestringpuller, i have more than month ;D
Feb 24 16:18:21 <jurov>	do me offer
Feb 24 16:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	do him!
Feb 24 16:19:27 <mjr__>	oh yeah, jurov, when i  got mpoe dividends it listed a positive fee...
Feb 24 16:19:46 <mjr__>	was curious what that was exactly
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Feb 24 16:20:16 <jurov>	it's fix for rounding error... gosh. i thought i had hirren it properly
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Feb 24 16:20:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 24 16:20:54 <jurov>	but anyway, it's there to make sure you got dividends exaclty to last satoshi ;)
Feb 24 16:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5842 @ 0.00062023 = 3.6234 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:21:38 <jurov>	not like these passthrough scammers
Feb 24 16:21:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.11979 BTC [-]
Feb 24 16:22:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 12 @ 0.1198 = 1.4376 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 24 16:33:16 <mjr__>	lol thanks jurov
Feb 24 16:33:35 <mjr__>	i really have nothing but good things to say about coinbr
Feb 24 16:33:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10860 @ 0.00062965 = 6.838 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9199 @ 0.00062964 = 5.7921 BTC [-]
Feb 24 16:35:32 <jurov>	only if i had ukto's zeal about developing it faster...
Feb 24 16:35:56 <Ukto>	coinbr is nice. :)
Feb 24 16:36:56 <jurov>	wait, you have an acct, too?
Feb 24 16:37:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.689 = 2.067 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:37:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.689 = 8.268 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:38:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.69 = 2.07 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:39:03 <Ukto>	jurov: I am all over the place
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Feb 24 16:40:47 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah, but how many MHs does it get? http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/24/4023898/nvidia-phoenix-superphone-hands-on-video
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Feb 24 16:42:24 <thestringpuller>	Ukto are you using boilerplate?
Feb 24 16:42:30 <Ukto>	no
Feb 24 16:43:03 <thestringpuller>	what frontend is that
Feb 24 16:43:13 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: but will it blend?
Feb 24 16:43:20 <ThickAsThieves>	obv
Feb 24 16:43:32 <ThickAsThieves>	bootstrap?
Feb 24 16:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00062964 = 5.1316 BTC [-]
Feb 24 16:46:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 19 @ 0.3498 = 6.6462 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:46:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Feb 24 16:51:14 <Ukto>	bootstrap.
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Feb 24 17:05:41 <thestringpuller>	Congrats on getting Ziggap Ukto
Feb 24 17:05:58 <Ukto>	thanks. :)
Feb 24 17:06:21 <thestringpuller>	It provides competition to the great Popescu
Feb 24 17:06:33 <Ukto>	now.. once the large biz's launch theirs, it will get interesting ;)
Feb 24 17:07:31 <ThickAsThieves>	ukto is gonna IPO mtgox
Feb 24 17:07:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
Feb 24 17:07:37 <Ukto>	pfft
Feb 24 17:07:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.56796 BTC [-]
Feb 24 17:07:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 6 @ 0.5 = 3 BTC [-]
Feb 24 17:08:25 <ThickAsThieves>	more seriously, do you have a posted process for vetting new assets?
Feb 24 17:08:57 <Ukto>	Submit a ticket with details.
Feb 24 17:09:02 <Ukto>	And then I open a discussion :)
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Feb 24 17:09:20 <Ukto>	I have turned down a great many assets.
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Feb 24 17:10:31 <jurov>	Ukto..um but the Biz27B-6 garage guys, really...
Feb 24 17:10:57 <jurov>	can't you just hide them from the list?
Feb 24 17:11:28 <jurov>	if they want to choose investors themselves
Feb 24 17:11:52 *	Ukto shrugs
Feb 24 17:11:57 <Ukto>	you will soon be able to hide them on your own
Feb 24 17:12:00 <Ukto>	I know who they are
Feb 24 17:12:06 <Ukto>	and what they represent.
Feb 24 17:12:14 <Ukto>	I told them, not listing the info publically would be hurtful
Feb 24 17:12:34 <jurov>	lol, ignore for assets... do it like btctalk, with link becoming red :D
Feb 24 17:12:43 <Ukto>	hehe
Feb 24 17:14:44 <mjr__>	wait...
Feb 24 17:14:55 <mjr__>	Ukto are you doing ziggap or bitfunder?
Feb 24 17:15:15 <Ukto>	BitFunder
Feb 24 17:15:18 <Ukto>	aethero is ziggap
Feb 24 17:15:29 <thestringpuller>	what happened to btc pantry?
Feb 24 17:15:36 <mjr__>	cool
Feb 24 17:15:48 <thestringpuller>	aethero lol
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Feb 24 17:18:21 <dub>	its one of the up coming assets
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Feb 24 17:19:00 <dub>	you can trade in 10000 shares for a cupcake at any time
Feb 24 17:19:08 <Ukto>	hmm
Feb 24 17:19:12 <Ukto>	sounds yummy
Feb 24 17:19:17 <Ukto>	where do I signup
Feb 24 17:19:54 <dub>	some scam website called bitfunder
Feb 24 17:20:00 <Ukto>	ouch
Feb 24 17:20:22 <Ukto>	well, at least the proof of owning the shares is available :P
Feb 24 17:20:29 <Ukto>	then I can demand my cupcake later
Feb 24 17:21:08 <jurov>	can i exchange back cupcakes for shares ?
Feb 24 17:21:25 <Ukto>	as long as they are not stale, and you did not give them the aids.
Feb 24 17:21:35 <PsychoticBoy>	I like chocolate chip cupcakes
Feb 24 17:22:39 <Bowjob>	meow
Feb 24 17:24:01 <aethero>	Im part of the ziggap team
Feb 24 17:24:04 <aethero>	I am not ziggap
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Feb 24 17:26:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00063322 = 8.4851 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 17:26:41 <Ukto>	there you go
Feb 24 17:30:06 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 24 17:30:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.68183, Best ask: 29.77000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08817, Last trade: 29.77000, 24 hour volume: 26032.29631832, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.78388
Feb 24 17:32:26 <Bowjob>	bfl took down their shoutbox
Feb 24 17:32:26 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 24 17:32:34 <Bowjob>	nvm it sback up
Feb 24 17:32:39 <kakobrekla>	.
Feb 24 17:32:59 <dub>	aethero: how to pronounce it? zig gap? zigg APP? zzggpp?
Feb 24 17:33:10 <aethero>	Zig app
Feb 24 17:34:04 <aethero>	지갑 when in english is jigab which when spoken by a non native english speaker sounds like jhig-ap.
Feb 24 17:34:12 <aethero>	Zig app.
Feb 24 17:34:19 <thestringpuller>	 aethero when will you guys be hiring?
Feb 24 17:34:34 <aethero>	Most likely soon.
Feb 24 17:34:45 <aethero>	it depends on how the second release goes
Feb 24 17:34:48 <thestringpuller>	i wanna intern! ooh ooh pick me
Feb 24 17:34:58 <aethero>	:)
Feb 24 17:35:13 <dub>	remember to take off every zig
Feb 24 17:36:19 <aethero>	I havent thought about all your base in so long
Feb 24 17:36:55 <dub>	you should integrate 'For great justice' into your marketing somehow
Feb 24 17:37:00 <kakobrekla>	.
Feb 24 17:37:25 <dub>	yes, sorry
Feb 24 17:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0062 = 31 BTC [-]
Feb 24 17:38:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.641 = 1.282 BTC [-]
Feb 24 17:38:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.6325 = 4.4275 BTC [-]
Feb 24 17:38:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.63 = 9.45 BTC [-]
Feb 24 17:38:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.628 = 1.884 BTC [-]
Feb 24 17:38:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.62411 = 14.3545 BTC [-]
Feb 24 17:38:58 <thestringpuller>	I'm creating a time machine company
Feb 24 17:39:00 <thestringpuller>	can I IPO?
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Feb 24 17:40:28 <aethero>	Time machine for what?
Feb 24 17:40:45 <thestringpuller>	For sending stuff backward and forward in time duuuh
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Feb 24 17:44:59 <ThickAsThieves>	but then you'll have to compete with the iWatch
Feb 24 17:45:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00063322 = 6.2689 BTC [+]
Feb 24 17:46:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 348 @ 0.006 = 2.088 BTC [-]
Feb 24 17:46:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1055 @ 0.00599999 = 6.33 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 17:56:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1 @ 0.00196487 BTC [-]
Feb 24 18:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00578774 = 11.5755 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 18:11:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063181 = 3.9804 BTC [-]
Feb 24 18:12:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063235 = 2.7324 BTC [+]
Feb 24 18:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15279 @ 0.00063265 = 9.6663 BTC [+]
Feb 24 18:15:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063255 = 2.7332 BTC [-]
Feb 24 18:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6929 @ 0.00063265 = 4.3836 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 18:24:39 <Bowjob>	someone won less than 1
Feb 24 18:24:41 <Bowjob>	Damn
Feb 24 18:24:50 <Bowjob>	http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=a874d43fb31c3a0785a6828006136c6d3a3cb79c3c19fe4c7caf770f42c6a3c7
Feb 24 18:24:53 <Bowjob>	crazy shit
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Feb 24 18:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	what again ?!
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Feb 24 18:26:31 <Bowjob>	bet 0.02 BTC
Feb 24 18:26:39 <Bowjob>	gets back 1000+ BTC
Feb 24 18:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	a  a yes.
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Feb 24 18:27:56 <kakobrekla>	lol win
Feb 24 18:28:28 <Bowjob>	be funny if they bet 0.1 BTC
Feb 24 18:28:28 <Bowjob>	lol
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Feb 24 18:31:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063197 = 2.7307 BTC [-]
Feb 24 18:31:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00063181 = 7.4554 BTC [-]
Feb 24 18:31:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12079 @ 0.00063034 = 7.6139 BTC [-]
Feb 24 18:31:25 <ThickAsThieves>	.01max bet
Feb 24 18:31:37 <ThickAsThieves>	nope
Feb 24 18:31:39 <ThickAsThieves>	nvm
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Feb 24 18:34:51 <Bowjob>	it was 0.1 befor
Feb 24 18:34:56 <Bowjob>	erik needs to capitalize on this
Feb 24 18:35:01 <Bowjob>	to attract more gamblers
Feb 24 18:35:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 24 18:35:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.85899, Best ask: 29.87306, Bid-ask spread: 0.01407, Last trade: 29.87306, 24 hour volume: 24287.24988202, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.78080
Feb 24 18:35:19 <Bowjob>	wait
Feb 24 18:35:23 <Bowjob>	its 0.1 max lol
Feb 24 18:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10860 @ 0.00063335 = 6.8782 BTC [+]
Feb 24 18:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2603 @ 0.00063336 = 1.6486 BTC [+]
Feb 24 18:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108&cpage=1#comment-5152 i lolled.
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Feb 24 18:38:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00063336 = 0.2217 BTC [+]
Feb 24 18:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00063347 = 8.8052 BTC [+]
Feb 24 18:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 115 @ 0.00578774 = 0.6656 BTC [-]
Feb 24 18:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 390 @ 0.00596019 = 2.3245 BTC [+]
Feb 24 18:49:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00063347 = 2.1221 BTC [+]
Feb 24 18:49:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00063413 = 9.2266 BTC [+]
Feb 24 18:56:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.00063034 = 0.2023 BTC [-]
Feb 24 18:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1339 @ 0.00062964 = 0.8431 BTC [-]
Feb 24 19:04:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.95 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:05:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.99 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:07:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 15 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.00062524 = 9.785 BTC [-]
Feb 24 19:15:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1898 @ 0.00061986 = 1.1765 BTC [-]
Feb 24 19:15:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061939 = 2.6764 BTC [-]
Feb 24 19:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 231 @ 0.00061938 = 0.1431 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 19:20:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062499 = 2.7006 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:20:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10340 @ 0.00062524 = 6.465 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00062975 = 11.9967 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 19:24:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 38 @ 0.00596019 = 0.2265 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:24:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.694 = 6.94 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 19:30:36 <Namworld>	Ah, fuck that, why are people adopting BitFunder? =/
Feb 24 19:31:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063101 = 2.7266 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18296 @ 0.00063091 = 11.5431 BTC [-]
Feb 24 19:32:52 <Anduck>	its got no 30 btc registering fee
Feb 24 19:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00063413 = 3.0121 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:33:58 <Namworld>	I mean over BTCT.co
Feb 24 19:34:10 <Namworld>	MPEx is already widely adopted
Feb 24 19:34:26 <thestringpuller>	BitFunder just landed Ziggap
Feb 24 19:34:31 <thestringpuller>	so I mean it's on the up and up
Feb 24 19:34:35 <thestringpuller>	like Jefferson's
Feb 24 19:34:36 <thestringpuller>	come on man
Feb 24 19:34:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 24 19:34:47 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222941 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 834 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 6 hours, 41 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4285577.28131 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.38054
Feb 24 19:35:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Feb 24 19:35:16 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4285577.28131 based on data since last change | 4294795.69727 based on data for last three days
Feb 24 19:36:19 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (.17 * 4285577.28131) + 4285577.28131
Feb 24 19:36:19 <gribble>	5014125.41913
Feb 24 19:36:24 <Namworld>	argh
Feb 24 19:36:34 <Namworld>	But btct.co is better
Feb 24 19:36:36 <thestringpuller>	looks like it's not gonna break 8 million
Feb 24 19:37:17 <thestringpuller>	not anymore
Feb 24 19:38:09 <Namworld>	Why are people going there anyway?
Feb 24 19:39:26 <thestringpuller>	I dunno. BitFunder has a pretty friendly staff.
Feb 24 19:39:37 <Namworld>	BTCT.co too =/
Feb 24 19:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15196 @ 0.00063561 = 9.6587 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 19:41:20 <ThickAsThieves>	both seem fine to me
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Feb 24 19:41:47 <thestringpuller>	Well help btct.co land a huge client?
Feb 24 19:41:56 <aethero>	BitFunder is great.
Feb 24 19:42:03 <aethero>	They've been extremely helpful.
Feb 24 19:42:07 <Namworld>	I already got BitVPS moved to BTCT.co
Feb 24 19:42:09 <aethero>	I cant say enough about their service.
Feb 24 19:42:33 <Namworld>	DeadTerra's GSDPT is there too, and a few good things too.
Feb 24 19:43:07 <ThickAsThieves>	string, you mean no 8mil diff, in regards to XDIFFMAR?
Feb 24 19:43:38 <thestringpuller>	Where are BitVPS's financials
Feb 24 19:44:32 <Namworld>	Eh, some place
Feb 24 19:45:05 <thestringpuller>	and you're the accountant?
Feb 24 19:45:09 <thestringpuller>	:|
Feb 24 19:46:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.006 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:47:03 <Namworld>	I'm fetching the links, one sec
Feb 24 19:47:10 <Namworld>	They're in my google drive.
Feb 24 19:47:29 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFvQWJnZnRZQWJfbk1mNHYtVzhPR0E#gid=0 December
Feb 24 19:47:40 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdHlkcElCUGR4a0tBc2JSM1FtQzI0VkE#gid=0 January
Feb 24 19:48:01 <thestringpuller>	Good stuff! This should be hosted on the website.
Feb 24 19:48:05 <thestringpuller>	Or at least linked to it
Feb 24 19:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6435 @ 0.00063561 = 4.0902 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11293 @ 0.00063091 = 7.1249 BTC [-]
Feb 24 19:48:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5955 @ 0.00061938 = 3.6884 BTC [-]
Feb 24 19:48:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5418 @ 0.00061905 = 3.354 BTC [-]
Feb 24 19:48:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7649 @ 0.00061783 = 4.7258 BTC [-]
Feb 24 19:48:31 <Namworld>	Will be published on our new website. We're dumping wordpress.
Feb 24 19:49:11 <Namworld>	We'll be a bit in the negative for the next few months. Purchased a server and there will be another on February's statement.
Feb 24 19:50:03 <Namworld>	We'll cut most of the server rent tho
Feb 24 19:50:15 <thestringpuller>	How do you plan on raising revenue?
Feb 24 19:50:19 <Namworld>	Except the switzerland node.
Feb 24 19:50:26 <thestringpuller>	You need more sales it seems...
Feb 24 19:50:53 <Namworld>	No... We just had too many rented servers not at full capacity.
Feb 24 19:51:08 <thestringpuller>	So what's the long term plan?
Feb 24 19:51:25 <thestringpuller>	I'm sorry to ask half retarded questions.
Feb 24 19:52:14 <Namworld>	Well a few month prior, before RG started to neglect, BitVPS was around ~3k USD income vs ~2k expenses
Feb 24 19:52:27 <Namworld>	According to our billing software
Feb 24 19:53:07 <Namworld>	It had dropped to a bit under 2k income when we got it.
Feb 24 19:53:53 <thestringpuller>	Did you lose clients due to rg's neglect?
Feb 24 19:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063578 = 2.7472 BTC [+]
Feb 24 19:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1352 @ 0.00063583 = 0.8596 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 19:56:16 <Namworld>	They were already gone when we got BitVPS
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Feb 24 19:56:46 <Namworld>	the decline occured regularly during the last month until we took over BitVPS
Feb 24 19:58:00 <Namworld>	Plus some people left after, RG was not answering us and hadn't given us all login infos/datacenter info to pay server rents/contact them if there was issues.
Feb 24 19:58:24 <Namworld>	Fortunatly, not many. We were able to talk to them and support them at least.
Feb 24 19:58:25 <thestringpuller>	good 'ol rg for you
Feb 24 19:58:35 <thestringpuller>	what is the support turn around time?
Feb 24 19:59:08 <Namworld>	Immediately to 24 hours depending on if one of us is around.
Feb 24 20:00:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062445 = 2.6982 BTC [-]
Feb 24 20:00:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.0006241 = 3.2946 BTC [-]
Feb 24 20:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld why can't some people like one and some people the other ?
Feb 24 20:02:08 <Namworld>	mircea: what?
Feb 24 20:02:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062442 = 2.6981 BTC [+]
Feb 24 20:02:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22571 @ 0.0006241 = 14.0866 BTC [-]
Feb 24 20:02:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5566 @ 0.00061783 = 3.4388 BTC [-]
Feb 24 20:02:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2545 @ 0.00061751 = 1.5716 BTC [-]
Feb 24 20:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	btct/bf
Feb 24 20:02:33 <Namworld>	oh... well that's fine really
Feb 24 20:02:50 <Namworld>	I just want BTCT.co to stay ahead
Feb 24 20:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	never was ahead was it ?
Feb 24 20:03:43 <Ukto>	?
Feb 24 20:03:48 <Ukto>	i stop reading for one second....
Feb 24 20:04:32 <Namworld>	In volume no, but strictly because of DeadTerra's GSDPT
Feb 24 20:04:46 <Namworld>	Which was almost all the volume on BitFunder
Feb 24 20:04:55 <Bugpowder>	The battle for second place...
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Feb 24 20:05:02 <Ukto>	does it really matter?
Feb 24 20:05:15 <Ukto>	both over very different and uniqe customer experiences
Feb 24 20:05:18 <Ukto>	offer
Feb 24 20:05:19 <Ukto>	not over
Feb 24 20:05:24 <Ukto>	btct has some really godo vol days
Feb 24 20:05:26 <Ukto>	good
Feb 24 20:05:34 <Ukto>	BF had some bad ones recently too
Feb 24 20:05:38 <Ukto>	it happens
Feb 24 20:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	i don't even really know, what's the volumes ?
Feb 24 20:05:46 <Ukto>	its not a competition. really.
Feb 24 20:05:52 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: depends on the day
Feb 24 20:05:56 <Ukto>	the other day BF was 20btc
Feb 24 20:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	i mean per month
Feb 24 20:05:59 <Ukto>	oh
Feb 24 20:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 24 20:06:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.62410000 / 0.6552697 / 0.69400000 (362 shares, 237.20763070 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.67835807 / 0.75100000 (1542 shares, 1046.02814202 BTC), 30D: 0.52100000 / 0.66793949 / 0.89000000 (11121 shares, 7428.15501446 BTC)
Feb 24 20:06:24 <Ukto>	https://btct.co/ <-- btct is 2,248.26
Feb 24 20:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct gsdpt
Feb 24 20:06:26 <Ukto>	for last 30 days
Feb 24 20:06:27 <assbot>	[BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.0059 / 0.006 / 0.006 (908 shares, 5.4 BTC),  7D: 0.0056 / 0.00606 / 0.0067 (6045 shares, 36.7 BTC), 30D: 0.0045 / 0.00638 / 0.0082 (182434 shares, 1164.5 BTC)
Feb 24 20:06:35 <Ukto>	i will have to calculate BFs
Feb 24 20:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... something in the 5k range or so ?
Feb 24 20:06:50 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Feb 24 20:06:54 <Ukto>	i specifically dont post BF's cause its not a war.
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Feb 24 20:07:10 <mircea_popescu>	jus' curious.
Feb 24 20:07:27 <Ukto>	BitFunder last 30 days: 5,411.3486 BTC
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Feb 24 20:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5655 @ 0.00061751 = 3.492 BTC [-]
Feb 24 20:07:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00061733 = 9.26 BTC [-]
Feb 24 20:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00061733 = 1.0803 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 20:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13495 @ 0.00061726 = 8.3299 BTC [-]
Feb 24 20:07:58 <Namworld>	BTCT.co about 2k volume
Feb 24 20:08:00 <thestringpuller>	I think MPOE is gonna hit .00059 soon
Feb 24 20:08:08 <thestringpuller>	AAPL syndrome
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Feb 24 20:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 925 @ 1.52472178 = 1410.3676 BTC [-]
Feb 24 20:08:50 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Feb 24 20:09:16 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 24 20:09:17 <Ukto>	Namworld: more than that, 2.2k.
Feb 24 20:09:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061726 / 0.00062849 / 0.00064195 (2090103 shares, 1,313.61 BTC), 7D: 0.00061726 / 0.00064099 / 0.00067884 (11486842 shares, 7,363.06 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00066219 / 0.0007 (62246075 shares, 41,218.98 BTC)
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Feb 24 20:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	so basically btct + bf = havelock sdice pt.
Feb 24 20:10:04 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: http://www.bitbillions.com
Feb 24 20:10:11 <Namworld>	mircea: yeah
Feb 24 20:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	the guy must be doing something right.
Feb 24 20:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	"The information contained herein is CLASSIFIED and only intended for an exclusive few. "
Feb 24 20:10:31 <mircea_popescu>	great.
Feb 24 20:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	let's not know what words mean
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Feb 24 20:11:25 <thestringpuller>	continue on and tell me you don't think it's a ponzi
Feb 24 20:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	i don't need to continue, it's dumbassery "internet marketing"
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Feb 24 20:13:15 <thestringpuller>	just look at this page at lease
Feb 24 20:13:18 <thestringpuller>	least*
Feb 24 20:13:19 <thestringpuller>	http://www.bitbillions.com/foundation/comp-plan.php
Feb 24 20:13:21 <thestringpuller>	now I can't english
Feb 24 20:14:05 <thestringpuller>	If GBBG earned $100,000,000 during a month, then we would deposit $10,000,000 into the 10% pool. We would deposit $5,000,000 into each of the 5% pools. We would deposit $20,000,000 into the 20% pool. You will earn your share of each pool depending upon your position in the matrix (how early you join) and the number of points you earn each month.
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Feb 24 20:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 24 20:14:20 <mircea_popescu>	except "earned" does not mean "taken in"
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Feb 24 20:15:01 <dub>	this looks like something to get in on the ground level at
Feb 24 20:15:12 <thestringpuller>	shut up and take my coin
Feb 24 20:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Feb 24 20:15:39 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller actually looking at the graphs s.mpoe took less of a beating than s.dice
Feb 24 20:16:12 <thestringpuller>	yea I guess so...
Feb 24 20:16:44 <thestringpuller>	voorhees over supplied the market
Feb 24 20:16:54 <thestringpuller>	honest mistake
Feb 24 20:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	hey, who's the guy that made a fortune shorting during the great depression ?
Feb 24 20:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	terrible lapsus i got going
Feb 24 20:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	i something
Feb 24 20:18:15 <thestringpuller>	Whitney
Feb 24 20:18:17 <thestringpuller>	or something like that
Feb 24 20:18:38 <mircea_popescu>	whitney was the president of the stock exchange
Feb 24 20:19:39 <thestringpuller>	:P
Feb 24 20:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://seekingalpha.com/article/296812-bear-raiders-the-dark-side-of-short-selling
Feb 24 20:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha this woman is SO RETARDED
Feb 24 20:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck is ellen brown
Feb 24 20:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	"Ellen Brown developed her research skills as an attorney practicing civil litigation in Los Angeles"
Feb 24 20:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	great. has no fucking idea of finance.
Feb 24 20:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00062478 = 9.1843 BTC [+]
Feb 24 20:21:13 <thestringpuller>	i wish http://bitcoin-analytics.com/ wasn't so shitty
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Feb 24 20:22:32 <thestringpuller>	Ukto you should post the IPO news on reddit
Feb 24 20:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14851 @ 0.00062478 = 9.2786 BTC [+]
Feb 24 20:23:31 <mircea_popescu>	Jesse Lauriston Livermore!
Feb 24 20:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	aha!
Feb 24 20:24:23 <dub>	that awkward moment when the company you have sworn off using via tweet offers you free shit
Feb 24 20:25:22 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: "He proceeded to lose 90% of that 1907 fortune on a blown cotton trade. He violated many of his key rules; he listened to another person's advice (he preferred working alone) and added to a losing position. He continued losing money in the flat markets from 1908.1912. He was $1 million in debt and declared bankruptcy. He proceeded to regain his fortune and repay his creditors during the World War 
Feb 24 20:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Feb 24 20:25:58 <thestringpuller>	In 1929, he noticed market conditions similar to that of the 1907 market. He began shorting various stocks and adding to his positions, and they kept declining in price. When just about everyone in the markets lost money in the Wall Street crash of 1929, Livermore was worth $100 million after his short-selling profits.
Feb 24 20:26:03 <thestringpuller>	Can never keep a good bull down
Feb 24 20:26:23 <mircea_popescu>	he was a bear.
Feb 24 20:26:52 <thestringpuller>	It was never disclosed to anyone what happened to the great fortune he had made in the crash of 1929, but he had lost it all. <- ugh come on
Feb 24 20:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	he prolly did. guy had the discipline of a candle in tropical weather.
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Feb 24 20:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00061726 = 4.2282 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 20:42:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9920 @ 0.00061726 = 6.1232 BTC [-]
Feb 24 20:42:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1980 @ 0.00061614 = 1.22 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 20:48:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.00062378 = 25.1383 BTC [+]
Feb 24 20:49:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2401 @ 0.00062378 = 1.4977 BTC [+]
Feb 24 20:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062723 = 2.7103 BTC [+]
Feb 24 20:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062723 = 2.7103 BTC [+]
Feb 24 20:49:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13157 @ 0.00062724 = 8.2526 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 20:53:55 <benkay>	is it possible to get last trade for a symbol on MPEx programmatically?
Feb 24 20:56:01 <kakobrekla>	i have a socket connection if ya need
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Feb 24 20:58:29 *	benkay blinks
Feb 24 20:58:43 <benkay>	as in you'll let me hook into live data of some sort for some value of live?
Feb 24 20:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	benkay http://mpex.co/faq.html#11
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Feb 24 21:00:31 <benkay>	thanks mircea_popescu, does the rss feed include last trades in a particular time window/number of trades window, or does it include last trade for all symbols that have been traded?
Feb 24 21:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	it includes the last dozen or so trades
Feb 24 21:01:01 <mircea_popescu>	you can also get twitter to push data to you through their api i think
Feb 24 21:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	tho im not really fresh on the details of that.
Feb 24 21:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	and there's kako's assbot socket
Feb 24 21:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	so that's three options dependign what serves you best.
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Feb 24 21:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00062724 = 16.1828 BTC [+]
Feb 24 21:03:33 <benkay>	where find assbot docs?
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Feb 24 21:03:59 <kakobrekla>	<-
Feb 24 21:04:28 <benkay>	hi kako
Feb 24 21:04:32 <benkay>	wat do
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Feb 24 21:05:27 <kakobrekla>	do much
Feb 24 21:05:33 <benkay>	hurr durr
Feb 24 21:05:43 <benkay>	:)
Feb 24 21:05:49 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 24 21:06:54 <benkay>	i would like last transaction on O.BTCUSD.C190T
Feb 24 21:06:59 <benkay>	how do make query?
Feb 24 21:08:19 <kakobrekla>	from where?
Feb 24 21:08:42 <benkay>	irc would suffice i suppose
Feb 24 21:08:48 <benkay>	for temporary testing
Feb 24 21:08:53 <benkay>	socket eventually
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Feb 24 21:13:05 <benkay>	did i answer the wrong question?
Feb 24 21:13:21 <benkay>	maybe "my development box" would be a better answer
Feb 24 21:13:28 <kakobrekla>	um
Feb 24 21:13:33 <kakobrekla>	no such command atm
Feb 24 21:13:45 <kakobrekla>	you can follow cleaner chan here tho if you need #bitcoin-assets-trades
Feb 24 21:16:15 <thestringpuller>	is that all assbot?
Feb 24 21:18:07 <kakobrekla>	e?
Feb 24 21:18:38 <thestringpuller>	nvm
Feb 24 21:20:23 <thestringpuller>	that's a big hole, kakobrekla! < did I use that correctly?
Feb 24 21:21:58 <dub>	all assbot all the time
Feb 24 21:22:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062649 = 4.3854 BTC [-]
Feb 24 21:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 493 @ 0.00062724 = 0.3092 BTC [+]
Feb 24 21:22:44 <dub>	I was feeling particularly uninspired so my PoE char is called assbot
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Feb 24 21:26:25 <thestringpuller>	dub, kakobrekla to your first one lol
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Feb 24 21:28:32 <dub>	that doesnt parse
Feb 24 21:30:03 <dub>	edit
Feb 24 21:30:39 <dub>	er, quit :/
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Feb 24 21:42:12 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 30
Feb 24 21:42:13 <gribble>	There are currently 1731.1427 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 51787.0322238 USD in total.
Feb 24 21:42:22 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29
Feb 24 21:42:24 <gribble>	There are currently 4125.5309 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 120411.699441 USD in total.
Feb 24 21:43:34 <thestringpuller>	;;;;ticker
Feb 24 21:43:35 <gribble>	Error: ";;ticker" is not a valid command.
Feb 24 21:43:37 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 24 21:43:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.78998, Best ask: 29.78999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 29.78999, 24 hour volume: 25045.65345806, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.79637
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Feb 24 21:43:47 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29.50
Feb 24 21:43:49 <gribble>	There are currently 762.10368 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.5 USD, worth 22563.8315869 USD in total.
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Feb 24 21:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14139 @ 0.00062885 = 8.8913 BTC [+]
Feb 24 21:45:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 661 @ 0.0006296 = 0.4162 BTC [+]
Feb 24 21:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1139 @ 0.0006296 = 0.7171 BTC [+]
Feb 24 21:46:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3261 @ 0.00063032 = 2.0555 BTC [+]
Feb 24 21:50:31 <kakobrekla>	bah fuck
Feb 24 21:50:43 <kakobrekla>	wasted 2 hours on something that is not a bug but a setting.
Feb 24 21:51:04 <kakobrekla>	gun. head. execute.
Feb 24 21:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 24 21:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	not a bug but a setting, that's new
Feb 24 21:53:51 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Feb 24 21:54:00 <kakobrekla>	i guess ill be regreting that most on my death bed
Feb 24 21:54:07 <kakobrekla>	"oh damn all those settings!!"
Feb 24 21:54:15 <Ukto>	.. i googled brain splatter for kako
Feb 24 21:54:18 <Ukto>	.. dont do that
Feb 24 21:54:29 <Ukto>	on the images search
Feb 24 21:54:30 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 24 21:54:39 <kakobrekla>	meh
Feb 24 21:54:47 <Namworld>	Bitcoinica: We've been hacked out of most of our funds. This is not a bug but a setting.
Feb 24 21:54:52 <kakobrekla>	i watched rotten and ate breakfast when i was 15
Feb 24 21:54:58 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 24 21:55:00 <kakobrekla>	jk jk but you get the point
Feb 24 21:55:02 <Ukto>	rotton.com
Feb 24 21:55:04 <Ukto>	that still around?
Feb 24 21:55:08 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Feb 24 21:55:10 <Ukto>	rotten
Feb 24 21:55:17 <Ukto>	rotten.. torture...
Feb 24 21:55:18 <Ukto>	all them sites
Feb 24 21:55:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00063032 = 2.931 BTC [+]
Feb 24 21:55:28 <dub>	bmezine was worse than rotten
Feb 24 21:55:34 <Ukto>	true
Feb 24 21:55:47 <kakobrekla>	you're the experts
Feb 24 21:56:01 <dub>	dudes hacking off their ballsacks and sowing them back on
Feb 24 21:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14957 @ 0.00062725 = 9.3818 BTC [-]
Feb 24 21:56:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7518 @ 0.00062651 = 4.7101 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 21:56:21 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 24 21:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	bmezine is dead ?
Feb 24 21:56:26 <kakobrekla>	why the sow back part
Feb 24 21:56:32 <dub>	--- Namworld has quit [brb masturbating]
Feb 24 21:56:36 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Feb 24 21:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	why do bitcoin people so firmly believe the gubmint is out to get them ?
Feb 24 21:57:32 <dub>	kakobrekla: so you can hack them off again derp
Feb 24 21:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	is this a movie thing or something ?
Feb 24 21:57:48 <dub>	mircea_popescu: why else are they poor and useless?
Feb 24 21:57:55 <dub>	its got to be someones fault!
Feb 24 21:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	well ostensibly cause they suck at maffs
Feb 24 21:58:03 <kakobrekla>	who is gubmint
Feb 24 21:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gubmint
Feb 24 21:58:32 <kakobrekla>	a
Feb 24 21:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	gubmint 	223 up, 221 down
Feb 24 21:58:50 <mircea_popescu>		Government, as used by right-wing pansies, used to "protest" progressive taxation against the capitalist class who stole the wealth from the working class in the first place. In the place of taxation, the right-wingers advocate charity, in other words, they ask the capitalists to be generous with other people's (working class) money!
Feb 24 21:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	"Waah! The gubmint stole my money which I got by brutally exploiting third world sweatshop employees! Waah!" - Right-winger crying over taxes
Feb 24 21:58:54 <mircea_popescu>	ok, the internet delivers.
Feb 24 21:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	so... if you have money it's because you stole the dough rightfully belonging to those that don't have it
Feb 24 21:59:25 <kakobrekla>	yeah its not that bad
Feb 24 21:59:28 <kakobrekla>	the internet.
Feb 24 21:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	as proven by the fact that they don't have it.
Feb 24 22:00:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26025 @ 0.00063032 = 16.4041 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 22:08:01 <dub>	pretty sure it was a hoax but bmezine did a peice on identical twins, one of whom cut an arm off and attached it to the other
Feb 24 22:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4832 @ 0.00062651 = 3.0273 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2001 @ 0.00062439 = 1.2494 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	half the shit they ran was nonsense.
Feb 24 22:08:34 <dub>	just under his other arm on the torso, with enough blood vessles and shit to keep it alive but not move around
Feb 24 22:08:45 <benkay>	even more hilarious, if you can steal money from someone, that proves that you have a greater right to it
Feb 24 22:08:55 <benkay>	you're a better rational actor
Feb 24 22:09:07 <dub>	then they cut a finder off one of the other twins good arms and attached it to the middle finger on the first twins remaining hand
Feb 24 22:09:12 <dub>	finger*
Feb 24 22:09:22 <dub>	so he had a quad jointed middle finder
Feb 24 22:09:38 <dub>	or at least 3(4?) knuckles
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Feb 24 22:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2364 @ 0.00063032 = 1.4901 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5230 @ 0.00063059 = 3.298 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14096 @ 0.00063395 = 8.9362 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:11:37 <dub>	benkay: well no.
Feb 24 22:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18748 @ 0.00063583 = 11.9205 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26239 @ 0.00063588 = 16.6849 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:11:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063655 = 3.1828 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9251 @ 0.00063656 = 5.8888 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00063656 = 19.0968 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:11:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00063668 = 21.1378 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00063681 = 5.4129 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063701 = 3.1851 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12847 @ 0.00063702 = 8.1838 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00063738 = 7.043 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6755 @ 0.00063786 = 4.3087 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6755 @ 0.00063786 = 4.3087 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59850 @ 0.00063787 = 38.1765 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.000638 = 8.1345 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15106 @ 0.00063827 = 9.6417 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6926 @ 0.00063873 = 4.4238 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00063974 = 11.3874 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10623 @ 0.00064082 = 6.8074 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14272 @ 0.00064084 = 9.1461 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23274 @ 0.00064092 = 14.9168 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78500 @ 0.00064175 = 50.3774 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34191 @ 0.00064281 = 21.9783 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00064292 = 20.702 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2903 @ 0.00064293 = 1.8664 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:12:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79950 @ 0.00064557 = 51.6133 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00064576 = 12.2049 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00064632 = 16.4165 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00064642 = 13.3486 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:06 <dub>	go go go
Feb 24 22:13:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21020 @ 0.00064677 = 13.5951 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9618 @ 0.00064746 = 6.2273 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4640 @ 0.00064999 = 3.016 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00065113 = 17.6131 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18124 @ 0.00065045 = 11.7888 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15926 @ 0.00065119 = 10.3709 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14803 @ 0.00065128 = 9.6409 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:31 <kakobrekla>	so cool to watch live chart
Feb 24 22:13:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00065195 = 12.6152 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00065211 = 2.8041 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5801 @ 0.0006528 = 3.7869 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00065334 = 3.2994 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00065538 = 11.6002 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00065545 = 1.2454 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00065704 = 15.8675 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00065721 = 2.7603 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00065877 = 11.4297 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00065886 = 12.2548 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00066 = 2.31 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:14:21 <maximian>	  well holy shit.
Feb 24 22:14:33 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Feb 24 22:14:50 <dub>	heh mine went last
Feb 24 22:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	the ask side looks real bare now
Feb 24 22:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	dub i thought you didn't have bitcoins cause you suck ?
Feb 24 22:15:21 <dub>	mpoe != bitcoins
Feb 24 22:15:39 <mircea_popescu>	oh ?!
Feb 24 22:15:39 <dub>	and I have bitcoins I just don;t have a working wallet I can access remote
Feb 24 22:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	ok, that's possibly the best compliment i got today.
Feb 24 22:15:50 <dub>	because bitcoind is broken
Feb 24 22:16:59 <Bowjob>	thats a lot of btcs
Feb 24 22:17:00 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 24 22:17:03 <dub>	its all erik's fault
Feb 24 22:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136176176977.jpg one tit cutie says hi,
Feb 24 22:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	whoever bought shares.
Feb 24 22:18:06 <dub>	one tit? was teh other cut off and attached to her twin?
Feb 24 22:18:10 <dub>	that would be rad
Feb 24 22:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's attached to her interior vaginal wall
Feb 24 22:18:26 <mircea_popescu>	making that canal real tight
Feb 24 22:18:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21076 @ 0.00066333 = 13.9803 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:18:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 525343 @ 0.00066 = 346.7264 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:18:50 <Bowjob>	melons
Feb 24 22:19:00 <dub>	jurov buying all the mpex
Feb 24 22:19:12 <Bowjob>	do it for s.dice
Feb 24 22:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 24 22:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061614 / 0.00063657 / 0.00066333 (3658968 shares, 2,329.22 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00064159 / 0.00067884 (13036284 shares, 8,364.05 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00066165 / 0.0007 (63578833 shares, 42,067.47 BTC)
Feb 24 22:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	pretty large day today.
Feb 24 22:23:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064454 = 0.6445 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00064454 = 2.2559 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12215 @ 0.00064454 = 7.8731 BTC [-]
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Feb 24 22:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	haha jurov nice favicon on live.
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Feb 24 22:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065988 = 2.8513 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57729 @ 0.00066 = 38.1011 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:34:33 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: I'd like to know number of outstanding contracts/shares for a particular symbol. is this data available anywhere other than the MPEx charts?
Feb 24 22:35:22 <mircea_popescu>	you mean mpex contracts ?
Feb 24 22:35:35 <benkay>	yup
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Feb 24 22:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	well... anywhere that copies it from there ?
Feb 24 22:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	maybe im not getting the q.
Feb 24 22:36:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96516 @ 0.00065938 = 63.6407 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00065999 = 0.99 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6690 @ 0.00066 = 4.4154 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:36:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1640 @ 0.000665 = 1.0906 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:36:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.0006675 = 18.3563 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.0006744 = 5.5301 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00068 = 17 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75000 @ 0.00069997 = 52.4978 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:36:57 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Feb 24 22:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37530 @ 0.00069998 = 26.2702 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:36:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 219208 @ 0.00069999 = 153.4434 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:37:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10408 @ 0.00069999 = 7.2855 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3490808 @ 0.0007 = 2443.5656 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	o lala
Feb 24 22:37:08 <kakobrekla>	...
Feb 24 22:37:32 <benkay>	i don't know if i'm articulating well. take for instance http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C170T
Feb 24 22:37:48 <benkay>	chart says 1'015 contracts
Feb 24 22:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	that's volume, not necessarily outstanding.
Feb 24 22:38:18 <benkay>	ah bad assumption on my part
Feb 24 22:38:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300000 @ 0.0007 = 910 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:38:24 <benkay>	do you provide that information?
Feb 24 22:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 24 22:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	as far as shares go the total share count is publisjhed in the contract
Feb 24 22:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	but for options the open interest is not published.
Feb 24 22:38:53 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/1z/RZ/3XgJk2UO/mpoe2.png
Feb 24 22:39:02 <benkay>	why is that?
Feb 24 22:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla is it a good thing ?
Feb 24 22:39:35 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Feb 24 22:39:39 <kakobrekla>	i was played a bit :p
Feb 24 22:40:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6939 = 1.3878 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	i guess 100 satoshi a share is a good price in the end.
Feb 24 22:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	a good dividend*
Feb 24 22:41:46 <Ukto>	i will give you 10
Feb 24 22:41:48 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 24 22:42:34 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: why not publish open interest?
Feb 24 22:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00068316 = 0.6832 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	i find it hard to believe... all that's standing between now and mpoe being worth 1mn btc is like 100k asks
Feb 24 22:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	benkay this why not stuff... why to ?
Feb 24 22:43:15 <benkay>	valid
Feb 24 22:43:44 <benkay>	is it an unusual inquiry? open interest, that is?
Feb 24 22:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is bitcoin. what's usual ?
Feb 24 22:44:32 <benkay>	wouldn't know; baby markets.
Feb 24 22:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068316 = 3.4158 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much what mpex does is what's usual.
Feb 24 22:44:41 <Namworld>	what the...
Feb 24 22:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068316 = 3.4158 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00068316 = 9.2227 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:46:28 <maximian>	someone really loves MPOE
Feb 24 22:47:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00068316 = 0.6832 BTC [-]
Feb 24 22:47:43 <Namworld>	Maybe some early adopter with a large stash thinks, hey, there's not a lot of dividends right now, but MPEx is the major player in bitcoin stocks. I want in early on that too.
Feb 24 22:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	the truth of the matter here is, there's 10mn bitcoins in circulation and 1.5ish mn worth of stocks
Feb 24 22:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	this is unbalanced.
Feb 24 22:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	some people don't want to earn on their bitcoin, but i would guess most do.
Feb 24 22:48:34 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 24 22:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	and welll... it being bitcoin, whatever return is a good return. no inflation and all that
Feb 24 22:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	course, it has to pay the risk.
Feb 24 22:50:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder if the buyer will start buying up passthru shares too
Feb 24 22:50:54 <Namworld>	aye
Feb 24 22:51:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00069659 = 16.3002 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:51:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0006999 = 3.4995 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	here we go again
Feb 24 22:51:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94280 @ 0.0007 = 65.996 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4320 @ 0.00071608 = 3.0935 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	aww false alarm
Feb 24 22:52:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess there really arent all that many on offer from the PTs
Feb 24 22:52:43 <mircea_popescu>	whoever  did this (if it's 1 person) doesn't strike me as a pt player.
Feb 24 22:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00071608 = 16.4698 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:53:38 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Feb 24 22:53:43 <maximian>	Too bad he's not spreading the love to S.DICE!
Feb 24 22:53:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.694 BTC [+]
Feb 24 22:53:58 <mircea_popescu>	even if it's two people, one with the 2k the other with the 900
Feb 24 22:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it would be like that, 2 people + maybe some followers
Feb 24 23:00:17 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: how many shares of s.mpoe have you now sold?
Feb 24 23:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	something like 100mn
Feb 24 23:06:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064455 = 2.7851 BTC [-]
Feb 24 23:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00064454 = 0.3087 BTC [-]
Feb 24 23:06:28 <maximian>	nice
Feb 24 23:06:37 <maximian>	10%
Feb 24 23:06:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.6939 = 18.0414 BTC [-]
Feb 24 23:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	about, ya.
Feb 24 23:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006532 = 2.8225 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00065334 = 18.8162 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:07:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00069393 = 1.3879 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00069395 = 0.347 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17881 @ 0.00069396 = 12.4087 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00069419 = 13.0508 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00071607 = 0.7161 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26982 @ 0.00071608 = 19.3213 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:07:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000000 @ 0.00075 = 1500 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:08:04 <maximian>	!
Feb 24 23:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	dude this is too exciting to sleep
Feb 24 23:08:27 <kakobrekla>	zp,h
Feb 24 23:08:31 <kakobrekla>	zomg
Feb 24 23:08:35 <kakobrekla>	shift.
Feb 24 23:08:36 <maximian>	goddammit, I sold way to low
Feb 24 23:08:40 <maximian>	too
Feb 24 23:08:45 <kakobrekla>	i just missed 65 :))
Feb 24 23:09:12 <mircea_popescu>	zp,h lol
Feb 24 23:09:31 <kakobrekla>	literally.
Feb 24 23:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, those 2mn were me.
Feb 24 23:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	i HAD JUST PUT THEM IN
Feb 24 23:10:10 <maximian>	so put some in at 80, see what happens
Feb 24 23:10:22 <mircea_popescu>	i think tomorrow.
Feb 24 23:10:47 <maximian>	see, all s.dice has to do is post low dividends, and it'll skyrocket!
Feb 24 23:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly.
Feb 24 23:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	actually there may be something to this.
Feb 24 23:11:29 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it helps credibility.
Feb 24 23:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	scams rarely have bad months.
Feb 24 23:11:55 <dub>	!ticket m s.mpoe
Feb 24 23:11:58 <dub>	fuck
Feb 24 23:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 24 23:12:04 <dub>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 24 23:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	for what, speeding ?
Feb 24 23:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061614 / 0.00068811 / 0.00075 (11161674 shares, 7,680.56 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00066753 / 0.00075 (20661247 shares, 13,792.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.000667 / 0.00075 (71180381 shares, 47,478.00 BTC)
Feb 24 23:12:13 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 24 23:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	<maximian> goddammit, I sold way to low << this btw
Feb 24 23:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	mpex is almost as difficult to time as the real markets
Feb 24 23:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	i think every trader has a story of this by now.
Feb 24 23:13:12 <maximian>	yeah, I thought I was real clever
Feb 24 23:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im going to have my cock sucked now.
Feb 24 23:13:57 <mircea_popescu>	catch you all later.
Feb 24 23:14:04 <maximian>	see ya
Feb 24 23:14:29 <kakobrekla>	chart porn
Feb 24 23:14:29 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/2H/ES/V2gy30r/mp.png
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Feb 24 23:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00075872 = 0.5311 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:21:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4000 @ 0.0007 = 2.8 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 23:23:11 <ThickAsThieves>	ut
Feb 24 23:23:18 <ThickAsThieves>	there go the PT shares
Feb 24 23:23:23 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Feb 24 23:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00075872 = 0.3794 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:27:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:28:39 <Namworld>	Seems like it
Feb 24 23:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00075872 = 7.1699 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:32:07 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu I want you to be the first to read our script based on an article you wrote
Feb 24 23:37:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7046 @ 0.00075872 = 5.3459 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:37:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 399716 @ 0.00075 = 299.787 BTC [-]
Feb 24 23:37:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50238 @ 0.00073278 = 36.8134 BTC [-]
Feb 24 23:38:08 <thestringpuller>	Mwahahaha
Feb 24 23:38:28 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 24 23:38:49 <kakobrekla>	amazing it is.
Feb 24 23:39:11 <thestringpuller>	soon I will be able to use BTC to finance real life business ventures
Feb 24 23:39:28 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Feb 24 23:39:32 <kakobrekla>	ah, wall at 75
Feb 24 23:39:48 <kakobrekla>	nicley done
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Feb 24 23:39:59 <kakobrekla>	now crash back bitch
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Feb 24 23:40:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00074017 = 0.3701 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 23:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00074017 = 1.1103 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00074017 = 4.219 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:44:32 <thestringpuller>	I wish smickles was around so I could short.
Feb 24 23:45:49 <thestringpuller>	This shit is literally a cash generator
Feb 24 23:45:50 <thestringpuller>	holy fuck
Feb 24 23:46:07 <thestringpuller>	Thank you for making my money mircea_popescu
Feb 24 23:50:53 <kakobrekla>	lol so many complaints over bfl bet, yet someone posts exactly the same wording for a rematch just different dates
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Feb 24 23:51:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81 @ 0.00073278 = 0.0594 BTC [-]
Feb 24 23:51:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19077 @ 0.00072073 = 13.7494 BTC [-]
Feb 24 23:52:05 <kakobrekla>	the way of the road.
Feb 24 23:54:10 <thestringpuller>	So BFL is confirmed not shipping by March 1st?
Feb 24 23:54:24 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Feb 24 23:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00074 = 1.11 BTC [+]
Feb 24 23:54:28 <kakobrekla>	its not march 1st yet eh
Feb 24 23:55:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00075 = 15.7125 BTC [+]
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Feb 24 23:55:44 <kakobrekla>	fuck me.
Feb 24 23:55:54 <kakobrekla>	another asic chip went into production.
Feb 24 23:56:05 <kakobrekla>	are these collectors items or what
Feb 24 23:56:44 <Namworld>	Very collectible, especially with golden foil on 'em.
Feb 24 23:56:58 <ThickAsThieves>	who?
Feb 24 23:57:23 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,estimate
Feb 24 23:57:23 <gribble>	4299621.26615542
Feb 24 23:57:28 <thestringpuller>	;;estimate
Feb 24 23:57:28 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4299621.26616 based on data since last change | 4269774.15066 based on data for last three days
Feb 24 23:57:33 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 24 23:57:37 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 222975 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 800 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 16 hours, 56 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4299621.26616 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.7652
Feb 24 23:59:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7694 @ 0.00074085 = 5.7001 BTC [-]
Feb 25 00:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3106 @ 0.00072876 = 2.2635 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 00:10:54 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller cool
Feb 25 00:11:04 <kakobrekla>	came already?
Feb 25 00:11:07 <kakobrekla>	:D
Feb 25 00:11:22 <kakobrekla>	she milked you good?
Feb 25 00:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	hehehe
Feb 25 00:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	it's an artform.
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Feb 25 00:29:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00075 = 4.875 BTC [+]
Feb 25 00:31:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00073996 = 8.9535 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 00:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00075 = 21.15 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 00:43:44 <maximian>	That crazy 1278 BTC win on SatoshiDice is being discussed on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin
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Feb 25 00:54:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00073996 = 2.0719 BTC [-]
Feb 25 00:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00073922 = 1.5524 BTC [-]
Feb 25 00:55:45 <Diablo-D3>	heh
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Feb 25 00:58:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 317 @ 0.01 = 3.17 BTC [+]
Feb 25 00:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00075 = 16.575 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 01:02:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Feb 25 01:04:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 998 @ 0.01 = 9.98 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 01:05:00 <Namworld>	Hmm... all my BTC-BOND is getting depleted
Feb 25 01:05:59 <Namworld>	Who's buying all that?
Feb 25 01:06:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.0879 = 0.879 BTC [-]
Feb 25 01:07:57 <Namworld>	Well only 14k left anyway
Feb 25 01:09:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.11997 BTC [+]
Feb 25 01:09:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00949 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 01:13:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 244 @ 0.01 = 2.44 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 01:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25950 @ 0.00073922 = 19.1828 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 01:32:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [+]
Feb 25 01:32:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10451 @ 0.00073922 = 7.7256 BTC [-]
Feb 25 01:34:51 <Namworld>	Well at this rate I'll be all out soon
Feb 25 01:44:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00074999 = 8.2499 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 01:55:38 <kakobrekla>	Incoming 0.00000008 B on 1BnUv8G (req#5713, id#1607, pid#213)
Feb 25 01:55:40 <kakobrekla>	a new record.
Feb 25 01:56:53 <maximian>	Should anyone doubt SatoshiDice's continuing popularity, head on over to http://blockchain.info/
Feb 25 01:57:30 <kakobrekla>	some new heat after todays mega win
Feb 25 01:57:38 <OneMiner>	Snap!
Feb 25 01:57:38 <kakobrekla>	perhaps
Feb 25 01:57:43 <maximian>	yeaah
Feb 25 01:57:56 <maximian>	fired up some imaginations…
Feb 25 02:00:11 <OneMiner>	http://blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-size
Feb 25 02:01:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5019 @ 0.00073978 = 3.713 BTC [-]
Feb 25 02:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17387 @ 0.00073923 = 12.853 BTC [-]
Feb 25 02:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1844 @ 0.00073922 = 1.3631 BTC [-]
Feb 25 02:01:23 <kakobrekla>	hrm
Feb 25 02:01:27 <kakobrekla>	sell mpoe buy dice?
Feb 25 02:01:55 <Namworld>	MPOE seems all the craze right now
Feb 25 02:01:58 <maximian>	mope seems way overpriced atm
Feb 25 02:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6266 @ 0.000741 = 4.6431 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12941 @ 0.000741 = 9.5893 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:12:17 <Bowjob>	wtf happaned to mpoe
Feb 25 02:12:38 <Bowjob>	it just went liftoff!
Feb 25 02:13:40 <Namworld>	Apparently, yeah
Feb 25 02:16:34 <Bowjob>	It appears to be the work of one person
Feb 25 02:16:45 <Bowjob>	Do the same for Dice!
Feb 25 02:16:46 <Bowjob>	:3
Feb 25 02:17:00 <Namworld>	eh
Feb 25 02:17:41 <Bowjob>	this doesnt even make sense.. why mpoe?
Feb 25 02:18:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.000741 = 8.8179 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:19:19 <Namworld>	idk
Feb 25 02:19:34 <Namworld>	Because it's the major player in BTC stocks?
Feb 25 02:19:46 <kakobrekla>	low risk of flight
Feb 25 02:20:00 <Namworld>	Right now dividend it very small. But who knows in the future.
Feb 25 02:20:43 <Bowjob>	well that doesnt explain the rocket just now
Feb 25 02:21:10 <kakobrekla>	lol you people
Feb 25 02:21:19 <kakobrekla>	still dont get it - its not about the dividend
Feb 25 02:21:50 <kakobrekla>	that is just one of n factors
Feb 25 02:22:16 <Namworld>	low risk? One could argue that many very reputed members still scammed people. And that the owner being located in Romania would make it that much more of a pain to get anything back.
Feb 25 02:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5955 @ 0.00073922 = 4.4021 BTC [-]
Feb 25 02:22:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10295 @ 0.00073563 = 7.5733 BTC [-]
Feb 25 02:22:50 <kakobrekla>	if you need to get anything back from anywho oyu are fucked anyway
Feb 25 02:23:22 <Namworld>	and easy to explain Bowjob, ~5k BTC were dumped for MPOE
Feb 25 02:23:44 <Bowjob>	why
Feb 25 02:24:21 <kakobrekla>	cause some is of opinion its worth more than the price
Feb 25 02:24:21 <Namworld>	Because some people did. Pretty much ends the why.
Feb 25 02:26:42 <Bowjob>	no shit people dumped 5k btc for mpoe. why did they dump it
Feb 25 02:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 799 @ 0.00073563 = 0.5878 BTC [-]
Feb 25 02:26:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14901 @ 0.00073215 = 10.9098 BTC [-]
Feb 25 02:26:55 <Bowjob>	thats like asking. whats for dinner. then you say food
Feb 25 02:28:23 <kakobrekla>	that what i say when someone asks me what i want for dinner... 'food'.
Feb 25 02:30:36 <Bowjob>	noooooooooooooo. i totally didnt think it was fooooooooood
Feb 25 02:32:20 <kakobrekla>	well, now you know
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Feb 25 02:38:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13843 @ 0.000741 = 10.2577 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:38:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16941 @ 0.00074327 = 12.5917 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:39:08 <Namworld>	Well what other reason do you want for the price rise? Someone thought it was worth it apparently
Feb 25 02:39:28 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Feb 25 02:39:30 <gribble>	Time since last block: 38 minutes and 51 seconds
Feb 25 02:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5409 @ 0.00074327 = 4.0203 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:41:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3891 @ 0.00074938 = 2.9158 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 02:47:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23943 @ 0.00074938 = 17.9424 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:47:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6387 @ 0.00074999 = 4.7902 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 422250 @ 0.00075 = 316.6875 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2838 @ 0.00075012 = 2.1288 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.0007512 = 23.3623 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41450 @ 0.00075266 = 31.1978 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6902 @ 0.00075259 = 5.1944 BTC [-]
Feb 25 02:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00075637 = 8.4713 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00075775 = 7.3502 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38611 @ 0.0007592 = 29.3135 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00075929 = 12.5662 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19352 @ 0.00076186 = 14.7435 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14762 @ 0.00076334 = 11.2684 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00076381 = 2.7497 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20308 @ 0.00076488 = 15.5332 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.0007656 = 2.9093 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40350 @ 0.00076652 = 30.9291 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19977 @ 0.00076844 = 15.3511 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00076977 = 20.7838 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:48:57 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 25 02:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00077011 = 6.5459 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:49:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00077221 = 27.8768 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:49:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.0007745 = 18.7429 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00077882 = 7.282 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:49:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 161770 @ 0.00078 = 126.1806 BTC [+]
Feb 25 02:51:02 <Namworld>	STAHP
Feb 25 02:53:43 <maximian>	madness!
Feb 25 02:53:44 <sgnb>	waow
Feb 25 02:54:01 <Namworld>	25% jump
Feb 25 02:54:07 <Namworld>	almost
Feb 25 02:54:17 <Namworld>	hmm... wait
Feb 25 02:54:25 <Bowjob>	???
Feb 25 02:54:37 <kakobrekla>	since im pasting it to enky
Feb 25 02:54:38 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/S/Io/4KYWT0D7/m.png
Feb 25 02:54:39 <Bowjob>	What sorcery is this
Feb 25 02:54:43 <Namworld>	~26% actually
Feb 25 02:54:58 <maximian>	Why would someone panic buy like this?
Feb 25 02:55:26 <Bowjob>	cuz they thought its worth it
Feb 25 02:55:28 <maximian>	He could have bought in for way cheaper if he was just patient
Feb 25 02:55:42 <Namworld>	not the first time something like this happened
Feb 25 02:55:43 <maximian>	yeah, seemingly so, but it's way overpriced now
Feb 25 02:56:00 <Bowjob>	this isnt making sense
Feb 25 02:56:01 <maximian>	oh well, I'm not complaining, just blown away
Feb 25 02:56:36 <Bowjob>	put some at .8
Feb 25 02:56:40 <Bowjob>	maybe hell; buy it
Feb 25 02:56:46 <Bowjob>	buy back later when it corrects
Feb 25 02:57:17 <kakobrekla>	same big vol on the 25th previous month
Feb 25 02:57:25 <kakobrekla>	and on the 22th another month ag
Feb 25 02:57:26 <kakobrekla>	o
Feb 25 02:57:32 <maximian>	interesting
Feb 25 02:57:35 <Bowjob>	do it for dice.. mr whale
Feb 25 02:57:53 <maximian>	dice has some nice buzz going now…. should pick up sooin
Feb 25 02:58:08 <Bowjob>	i wanna exit dice for a bit until erik sells more shares
Feb 25 02:58:16 <Bowjob>	i sold at 0,75
Feb 25 02:58:17 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 25 02:58:24 <maximian>	he's not going to sell any for a while
Feb 25 02:58:27 <maximian>	he learned his lesson
Feb 25 02:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00076172 = 12.9492 BTC [-]
Feb 25 02:58:50 <Bowjob>	now its starting to correct
Feb 25 02:58:53 <maximian>	he should have just followed MP's method: put the shares up for sale a little bit above market price
Feb 25 02:59:29 <Bowjob>	the mpoe whale could just be doing that to see our reactions
Feb 25 02:59:59 <maximian>	maybe it's a rich guy who's just messing around
Feb 25 03:00:31 <maximian>	but it'll be interesting to see if the price stays above the 70s
Feb 25 03:00:44 <Namworld>	aye
Feb 25 03:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00077329 = 11.87 BTC [+]
Feb 25 03:10:10 <kakobrekla>	http://bou.si/4c/1361777889423.jpg
Feb 25 03:16:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00076355 = 9.1626 BTC [-]
Feb 25 03:16:12 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/1d/lm/268D45PL/m.png
Feb 25 03:16:17 <kakobrekla>	close up
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Feb 25 03:20:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00074458 = 12.2483 BTC [-]
Feb 25 03:20:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4299 @ 0.00073215 = 3.1475 BTC [-]
Feb 25 03:20:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 901 @ 0.00073188 = 0.6594 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 03:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12699 @ 0.00073188 = 9.2941 BTC [-]
Feb 25 03:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2051 @ 0.00072888 = 1.4949 BTC [-]
Feb 25 03:40:09 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 25 03:40:13 <Bowjob>	seems down a bit now
Feb 25 03:40:48 <Namworld>	yeah
Feb 25 03:42:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8356 @ 0.00072888 = 6.0905 BTC [-]
Feb 25 03:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3044 @ 0.00072736 = 2.2141 BTC [-]
Feb 25 03:43:14 <Namworld>	Crashing down to -1 BTC each!
Feb 25 03:43:23 <Namworld>	(I'll buy some of that)
Feb 25 03:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0059106 = 3.5464 BTC [-]
Feb 25 03:59:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00073763 = 1.6965 BTC [+]
Feb 25 04:03:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00072837 = 14.4217 BTC [-]
Feb 25 04:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00072736 = 0.5819 BTC [-]
Feb 25 04:06:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00072862 = 7.2133 BTC [+]
Feb 25 04:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00073763 = 2.9136 BTC [+]
Feb 25 04:06:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8595 @ 0.00074624 = 6.4139 BTC [+]
Feb 25 04:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10082 @ 0.00074624 = 7.5236 BTC [+]
Feb 25 04:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00072834 = 7.3198 BTC [-]
Feb 25 04:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13856 @ 0.00072736 = 10.0783 BTC [-]
Feb 25 04:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26094 @ 0.00072662 = 18.9604 BTC [-]
Feb 25 04:16:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 29994 @ 0.00069 = 20.6959 BTC [-]
Feb 25 04:18:31 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 25 04:18:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.20001, Best ask: 30.25001, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 30.25001, 24 hour volume: 30302.51272563, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.87049
Feb 25 04:21:33 <thestringpuller>	Dey-shey Bah-sur-rah!
Feb 25 04:22:01 <Namworld>	I think that's called arbitraging...
Feb 25 04:23:41 <thestringpuller>	Rise!
Feb 25 04:24:10 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29
Feb 25 04:24:12 <gribble>	There are currently 4772.6441 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 139488.869201 USD in total.
Feb 25 04:24:20 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 31
Feb 25 04:24:22 <gribble>	There are currently 5503.6384 bitcoins offered at or under 31.0 USD, worth 168908.958645 USD in total.
Feb 25 04:24:44 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 25 04:24:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.20001, Best ask: 30.23005, Bid-ask spread: 0.03004, Last trade: 30.20001, 24 hour volume: 30476.10736364, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.87315
Feb 25 04:24:48 <Namworld>	I'd prefer price to go downward
Feb 25 04:24:49 <thestringpuller>	goin back down
Feb 25 04:24:51 <thestringpuller>	sellll
Feb 25 04:24:52 <Namworld>	on just everything
Feb 25 04:25:13 <Bowjob>	i just want a dice increase
Feb 25 04:25:17 <Bowjob>	so i can gtfo dice
Feb 25 04:25:18 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 25 04:25:29 <thestringpuller>	Why did you buy in at .007? XD haha
Feb 25 04:25:36 <Bowjob>	yes
Feb 25 04:25:36 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 25 04:25:39 <Bowjob>	then erik
Feb 25 04:25:40 <Bowjob>	..
Feb 25 04:25:41 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 25 04:25:44 <Namworld>	hey, .007 is not a bad price...
Feb 25 04:25:55 <Namworld>	You get like 1/70 for the month
Feb 25 04:25:57 <Bowjob>	no, more like 0.78 and 0.76
Feb 25 04:26:02 <Bowjob>	from havelock
Feb 25 04:26:04 <Namworld>	Not your bank that's going to give you that.
Feb 25 04:26:22 <Bowjob>	i just want out of dice.. i dont think dice can last that long before something hits the fan
Feb 25 04:26:27 <Bowjob>	its a good ride tho
Feb 25 04:26:46 <thestringpuller>	Dice makes about as much money as a state sponsored lottery, and you're fucking complaining?
Feb 25 04:27:02 <Bowjob>	it cant last forever
Feb 25 04:27:08 <thestringpuller>	This is like that scene in Breaking Bad where Walter White says to Jesse, "You are now, a millionaire, and you're fucking complaining?"
Feb 25 04:27:25 <Namworld>	Bowjob: state lotteries have went on for decades...
Feb 25 04:27:28 <Bowjob>	at least wait till erik dumps more
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Feb 25 04:34:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00073418 = 16.7393 BTC [+]
Feb 25 04:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00074624 = 7.4624 BTC [+]
Feb 25 04:37:59 <thestringpuller>	You should gobble up the IPO
Feb 25 04:38:17 <thestringpuller>	I hope mircea doesn't let the investors down with this new influx of capital into MPOE
Feb 25 04:38:23 <thestringpuller>	I expect upgrades to MPOE-bot
Feb 25 04:38:46 <Namworld>	Like a missile launcher maybe?
Feb 25 04:42:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00073837 = 7.3468 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 04:48:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.99 BTC [-]
Feb 25 04:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00073258 = 6.3002 BTC [-]
Feb 25 04:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00073314 = 11.437 BTC [+]
Feb 25 04:52:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8294 @ 0.00073314 = 6.0807 BTC [+]
Feb 25 04:53:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 15 BTC [+]
Feb 25 04:54:39 <Bowjob>	I find the Bitcoin Tarot reading more credible than the "TA" of some "analysts".
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Feb 25 05:02:10 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 25 05:02:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.97400, Best ask: 30.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02600, Last trade: 30.00000, 24 hour volume: 30611.51433709, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.87934
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Feb 25 05:04:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12240 @ 0.00074284 = 9.0924 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 05:10:04 <mjr_>	hi all
Feb 25 05:10:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9123 @ 0.00074624 = 6.8079 BTC [+]
Feb 25 05:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00075038 = 15.7205 BTC [+]
Feb 25 05:10:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00075341 = 13.3354 BTC [+]
Feb 25 05:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10941 @ 0.00075436 = 8.2535 BTC [+]
Feb 25 05:14:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00074623 = 13.9172 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:19:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00074284 = 9.4341 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:22:42 <jurov>	oh the things i wake up to...
Feb 25 05:22:52 <jurov>	and even being accused i did it, lol
Feb 25 05:23:06 <thestringpuller>	You did do it
Feb 25 05:23:12 <thestringpuller>	You are the shadow investor!!!!!!!
Feb 25 05:23:21 <thestringpuller>	I have proof!
Feb 25 05:23:35 <jurov>	yes? show me
Feb 25 05:23:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 185 @ 0.00580002 = 1.073 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:23:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00580001 = 2.9 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 215 @ 0.0058 = 1.247 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:24:53 <jurov>	brb. going to brunch
Feb 25 05:26:15 <thestringpuller>	...
Feb 25 05:26:19 <thestringpuller>	rich boy
Feb 25 05:26:25 <thestringpuller>	only rich people go to brunch
Feb 25 05:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24650 @ 0.00074284 = 18.311 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20333 @ 0.00074623 = 15.1731 BTC [+]
Feb 25 05:42:18 <mjr_>	what happened to MPOE's price?
Feb 25 05:42:31 <mjr_>	people just waiting till after those pesky dividends come out?
Feb 25 05:42:46 <mjr_>	accounting headache, i'll buy after the money is handed out
Feb 25 05:43:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11017 @ 0.00074623 = 8.2212 BTC [+]
Feb 25 05:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5659 @ 0.00075436 = 4.2689 BTC [+]
Feb 25 05:43:23 <mjr_>	gotta love this market...same thing with S.DICE the closer to dividends, the lower the price
Feb 25 05:43:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00075493 = 5.511 BTC [+]
Feb 25 05:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2424 @ 0.00075894 = 1.8397 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 05:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2616 @ 0.00074284 = 1.9433 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:48:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.000742 = 3.2648 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:48:30 <BitHub>	so Tradehill's making a comeback?
Feb 25 05:53:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00073751 = 3.7613 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:53:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00073169 = 9.1461 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1538 @ 0.00072662 = 1.1175 BTC [-]
Feb 25 05:56:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5219 @ 0.00072716 = 3.795 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:01:28 <Bowjob>	well this is the btc world
Feb 25 06:01:40 <Bowjob>	next thing our btcs worth 2 dollars. next day 1000
Feb 25 06:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00072662 = 10.645 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 06:04:07 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 25 06:04:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061614 / 0.00070103 / 0.00078 (12996843 shares, 9,111.23 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.000676 / 0.00078 (22498301 shares, 15,208.95 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00066943 / 0.00078 (72746047 shares, 48,698.85 BTC)
Feb 25 06:04:30 <Bugpowder>	Love waking up to a 150BTC profit
Feb 25 06:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8218 @ 0.00072716 = 5.9758 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:06:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1982 @ 0.00073952 = 1.4657 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 06:10:54 <Namworld>	Who was the other person that held a lot of GIGA.ETF?
Feb 25 06:11:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.00599 = 0.1078 BTC [-]
Feb 25 06:12:51 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: Weren't you saying S.MPOE was about to crash?
Feb 25 06:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3018 @ 0.00072662 = 2.1929 BTC [-]
Feb 25 06:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7574 @ 0.00072642 = 5.5019 BTC [-]
Feb 25 06:13:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26979 @ 0.00072528 = 19.5673 BTC [-]
Feb 25 06:14:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.00071 = 0.0178 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:14:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 95 @ 0.00072 = 0.0684 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:16:00 <Namworld>	No one recalls? Eh
Feb 25 06:16:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:17:29 <Bugpowder>	i had a lot
Feb 25 06:17:40 <Bugpowder>	but got rid of it all
Feb 25 06:17:46 <Bugpowder>	before the final crash
Feb 25 06:19:55 <Namworld>	I meant after it got delisted.
Feb 25 06:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00072528 = 3.989 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 06:37:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9463 @ 0.0007395 = 6.9979 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:40:34 <Namworld>	Well if anyone does, or knows who, PM me on the forum please.
Feb 25 06:42:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.0007395 = 15.5295 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 06:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16871 @ 0.0007395 = 12.4761 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7429 @ 0.00073952 = 5.4939 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00073744 = 6.8213 BTC [-]
Feb 25 06:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 489 @ 0.00073952 = 0.3616 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:52:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00073953 = 9.6878 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:52:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4161 @ 0.00073964 = 3.0776 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0059106 = 5.9106 BTC [+]
Feb 25 06:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 996 @ 0.00073744 = 0.7345 BTC [-]
Feb 25 06:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5004 @ 0.00073114 = 3.6586 BTC [-]
Feb 25 07:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00073964 = 7.7662 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 323 @ 0.00073964 = 0.2389 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1772 @ 0.00074815 = 1.3257 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:07:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00074827 = 13.4689 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4705 @ 0.00075623 = 3.5581 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22964 @ 0.00075623 = 17.3661 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00075336 = 8.2493 BTC [-]
Feb 25 07:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00074495 = 1.6389 BTC [-]
Feb 25 07:24:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22331 @ 0.00075623 = 16.8874 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:24:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5871 @ 0.00075894 = 4.4557 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 898 @ 0.00076234 = 0.6846 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:27:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00076234 = 4.574 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:30:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3232 @ 0.00075614 = 2.4438 BTC [-]
Feb 25 07:33:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.11 = 0.22 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 07:43:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00075615 = 2.2685 BTC [+]
Feb 25 07:43:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16568 @ 0.00075614 = 12.5277 BTC [-]
Feb 25 07:43:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1112 @ 0.0007556 = 0.8402 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 07:46:42 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: no way!
Feb 25 07:47:01 <Bugpowder_>	yup
Feb 25 07:47:06 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Feb 25 07:47:19 <thestringpuller>	I thought that a large investor would take his money out rather than put money in.
Feb 25 07:47:42 <Bugpowder_>	More money flows into MPEX than out of MPEX
Feb 25 07:47:48 <Bugpowder_>	assets go up
Feb 25 07:47:52 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 25 07:47:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.05000, Best ask: 30.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 30.05000, 24 hour volume: 31712.23336043, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.90165
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Feb 25 07:48:02 <Bugpowder_>	absent a crisis
Feb 25 07:48:34 <thestringpuller>	crisis occur when not enough capital exists for assets to bought at their minimum perceived value
Feb 25 07:49:07 <thestringpuller>	which is what I thought was happening! but given the 10 minute buyout of Ziggap stock on BF
Feb 25 07:49:51 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder_: ultimately I think MPOE will rise
Feb 25 07:49:55 <thestringpuller>	like the batman
Feb 25 07:50:35 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 29.50
Feb 25 07:50:37 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 29.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Feb 25 07:50:40 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29.50
Feb 25 07:50:42 <gribble>	There are currently 1688.777 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.5 USD, worth 50220.687149 USD in total.
Feb 25 07:50:53 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 32
Feb 25 07:50:55 <gribble>	There are currently 18538.342 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 580563.128169 USD in total.
Feb 25 07:51:03 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 31
Feb 25 07:51:05 <gribble>	There are currently 6576.899 bitcoins offered at or under 31.0 USD, worth 201452.673013 USD in total.
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Feb 25 08:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 25 08:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061614 / 0.00070305 / 0.00078 (13057759 shares, 9,180.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00067682 / 0.00078 (22659689 shares, 15,336.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00066965 / 0.00078 (72800222 shares, 48,751.11 BTC)
Feb 25 08:03:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00076106 = 6.8495 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:03:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00076232 = 2.287 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00076233 = 2.287 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6158 @ 0.00076234 = 4.6945 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:03:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1742 @ 0.0007627 = 1.3286 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:04:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0007627 = 1.983 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:15:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25106 @ 0.00075736 = 19.0143 BTC [-]
Feb 25 08:15:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00075561 = 2.2668 BTC [-]
Feb 25 08:15:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 344 @ 0.0007556 = 0.2599 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 08:23:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C250T] 87 @ 0.36450776 = 31.7122 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:23:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C270T] 214 @ 0.32470844 = 69.4876 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:23:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C290T] 389 @ 0.28918014 = 112.4911 BTC
Feb 25 08:24:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 553 @ 0.25778105 = 142.5529 BTC [-]
Feb 25 08:24:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 748 @ 0.23014246 = 172.1466 BTC
Feb 25 08:24:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 882 @ 0.18423278 = 162.4933 BTC
Feb 25 08:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 916 @ 0.2057493 = 188.4664 BTC
Feb 25 08:25:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 640 @ 0.16526197 = 105.7677 BTC
Feb 25 08:25:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 407 @ 0.14853807 = 60.455 BTC
Feb 25 08:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 215 @ 0.1337927 = 28.7654 BTC
Feb 25 08:25:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 42 @ 0.12078624 = 5.073 BTC
Feb 25 08:28:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.0007556 = 7.6316 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 08:35:36 <deadweasel>	good morning everyone
Feb 25 08:36:42 <ThickAsThieves>	mornin
Feb 25 08:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00075561 = 2.2668 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:40:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5214 @ 0.0007556 = 3.9397 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 08:42:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00076269 = 2.2881 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:42:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12908 @ 0.0007627 = 9.8449 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2792 @ 0.00076344 = 2.1315 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:48:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 680 @ 0.0007556 = 0.5138 BTC [-]
Feb 25 08:49:08 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 25 08:49:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.08134, Best ask: 30.23999, Bid-ask spread: 0.15865, Last trade: 30.24636, 24 hour volume: 32160.41669674, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.91529
Feb 25 08:56:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14302 @ 0.0007493 = 10.7165 BTC [-]
Feb 25 08:56:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 40 @ 0.0022 = 0.088 BTC [+]
Feb 25 08:59:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 40 @ 0.0022 = 0.088 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:04:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00074931 = 2.2479 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:04:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8149 @ 0.0007493 = 6.106 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:04:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0007439 = 2.9756 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:04:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.0007392 = 14.5992 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:04:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8501 @ 0.00073816 = 6.2751 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 09:07:08 *	Ukto grins
Feb 25 09:07:14 <Ukto>	working to put up another asset
Feb 25 09:07:22 <Ukto>	curious to see how this one sells
Feb 25 09:07:28 <Ukto>	it has good profits too
Feb 25 09:07:57 <Ukto>	he wants to launch his early bird asap in surprise fashion as well... so be warned. anyone
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Feb 25 09:09:57 <deadweasel>	ukto moar info
Feb 25 09:10:23 <Ukto>	cant, not yet
Feb 25 09:10:41 <Ukto>	I can tell you their dec. and jan. profits were 2x what ziggap was
Feb 25 09:10:47 <Ukto>	but its merchandise based
Feb 25 09:10:59 <Ukto>	the more the community supports bitcoin, the more profits it makes. ;)
Feb 25 09:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17199 @ 0.00073816 = 12.6956 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:11:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10073 @ 0.00073534 = 7.4071 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:11:31 <abracadabra>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0scugsLut1r786ovo1_500.jpg
Feb 25 09:11:42 <Ukto>	roflol
Feb 25 09:12:38 <deadweasel>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0scugsLut1r786ovo1_500.jpg
Feb 25 09:12:40 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHAHA
Feb 25 09:12:40 <deadweasel>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0scugsLut1r786ovo1_500.jpg
Feb 25 09:12:40 <BitHub>	?
Feb 25 09:12:41 <deadweasel>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0scugsLut1r786ovo1_500.jpg
Feb 25 09:12:41 <thestringpuller>	Hahaha
Feb 25 09:12:42 <deadweasel>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0scugsLut1r786ovo1_500.jpg
Feb 25 09:12:43 <deadweasel>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0scugsLut1r786ovo1_500.jpg
Feb 25 09:12:47 <deadweasel>	oops
Feb 25 09:12:53 <thestringpuller>	it all makes sense!
Feb 25 09:12:53 <deadweasel>	bad copy thorugh ssh, pardon
Feb 25 09:13:32 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: The community is the Bitcoin profit
Feb 25 09:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00075476 = 2.2643 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12420 @ 0.00075477 = 9.3742 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26577 @ 0.00076344 = 20.2899 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:14:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5803 @ 0.0007637 = 4.4318 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:14:26 <BitHub>	paste in bf room ukto
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Feb 25 09:14:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.00072 = 0.0058 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:14:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 19 @ 0.00072 = 0.0137 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 09:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1264 @ 0.0007637 = 0.9653 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:21:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9936 @ 0.00076424 = 7.5935 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 09:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00076423 = 13.2212 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00076424 = 0.9935 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:39:00 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: you around?
Feb 25 09:39:08 <Ukto>	>,>
Feb 25 09:39:10 <Ukto>	might be..
Feb 25 09:39:13 <Ukto>	did something break?
Feb 25 09:39:13 <thestringpuller>	I WANT MY FINAL FANTASY
Feb 25 09:39:14 <thestringpuller>	jkjkjk
Feb 25 09:39:17 <Ukto>	if so, I am not here
Feb 25 09:39:27 <Ukto>	was waiting on you && smickles
Feb 25 09:39:27 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 25 09:39:32 <thestringpuller>	i know I was jk
Feb 25 09:39:37 <thestringpuller>	He's super busy it seems
Feb 25 09:39:54 <thestringpuller>	He'll have like 2 weeks of chat logs to catch up on.
Feb 25 09:40:00 <thestringpuller>	SO HOWEVER
Feb 25 09:40:22 <thestringpuller>	he'll def get to it I think, I'm also trying to purchase something through kakobrekla too
Feb 25 09:47:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00076097 = 2.0927 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00075356 = 7.1965 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 09:50:08 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 25 09:50:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.29801, Best ask: 30.29902, Bid-ask spread: 0.00101, Last trade: 30.29800, 24 hour volume: 30648.18333089, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.93325
Feb 25 09:51:14 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29.20123
Feb 25 09:51:16 <gribble>	There are currently 3969.8947 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.20123 USD, worth 117518.199016 USD in total.
Feb 25 09:51:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 438 @ 0.00619998 = 2.7156 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00619999 = 12.4 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2562 @ 0.0062 = 15.8844 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:52:05 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 30.39877
Feb 25 09:52:07 <gribble>	There are currently 817.7338 bitcoins offered at or under 30.39877 USD, worth 24827.8732594 USD in total.
Feb 25 09:52:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.635 = 2.54 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:52:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.63334 = 1.2667 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:52:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.633335 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:52:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6333 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:52:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6326 = 1.8978 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:52:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.6325 = 6.9575 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:52:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.63 = 1.89 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:52:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.625 = 1.25 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:52:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.62411 = 1.2482 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:52:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.6241 = 13.1061 BTC [-]
Feb 25 09:53:02 <thestringpuller>	dumpthat shit
Feb 25 09:53:11 <thestringpuller>	money to mpoe
Feb 25 09:57:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00076401 = 10.6197 BTC [+]
Feb 25 09:58:04 <mjr_>	whats up everyone
Feb 25 09:59:24 <jurov>	hi mjr_, noticed s.mpoe?
Feb 25 09:59:54 <mjr_>	yep
Feb 25 10:00:02 <mjr_>	i commented on it earlier
Feb 25 10:00:21 <mjr_>	do people try to avoid the accounting headache of dividends?
Feb 25 10:00:39 <mjr_>	they were like, no way i will buy the day before i get money, too much work, let's buy after
Feb 25 10:01:10 <pigeons>	i know, just dont give me money, i hate having to keep track of it
Feb 25 10:01:11 <mjr_>	most backward prices ever...mpoe and sdice are both get cheaper the closer to dividends they get
Feb 25 10:01:24 <mjr_>	exactly
Feb 25 10:01:39 <mjr_>	i think it's awesome, i thought that they would price the future value of dividends into the stock price
Feb 25 10:01:58 <mjr_>	guess not, i will scoop up as much as possible lol
Feb 25 10:02:27 <mjr_>	looking forward to earnings for S.DICE...i kinda expect a small gain over last month...but not sure
Feb 25 10:03:07 <mjr_>	shorter month...and that one guy hit very nicely...but still overall not a big hit, i kinda hope it spurs on more gambling now that people see how much money you can make
Feb 25 10:05:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00076401 = 15.0892 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:05:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3469 @ 0.00076424 = 2.6511 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:08:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3545 @ 0.00076424 = 2.7092 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00076446 = 8.906 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4405 @ 0.00076476 = 3.3688 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:10:51 <thestringpuller>	mjr_: someone is controlling the options market
Feb 25 10:11:51 <jurov>	thestringpuller don't say it's me again
Feb 25 10:12:03 <mjr_>	lol, i'm glad
Feb 25 10:12:11 <mjr_>	and yes, i think the bot is called MPOE
Feb 25 10:12:15 <mjr_>	it makes the market in most options
Feb 25 10:12:22 <mjr_>	so you could say it controls it
Feb 25 10:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00075356 = 5.8401 BTC [-]
Feb 25 10:12:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 655 @ 0.00075355 = 0.4936 BTC [-]
Feb 25 10:12:45 <mjr_>	what i don't understand is why people would raise the price the day after dividends
Feb 25 10:13:19 <mjr_>	i have given up trying to make sense of other people, i in fact have stopped caring what price these stocks trade at, i just want dividends each month lol
Feb 25 10:14:46 <jurov>	i expected this to happen... but earlier
Feb 25 10:14:54 <thestringpuller>	no someone is controlling mpoe bot
Feb 25 10:15:11 <jurov>	thestringpuller MP is, obviously
Feb 25 10:15:19 <thestringpuller>	thats not what i meant
Feb 25 10:15:46 <thestringpuller>	someone is taking contracts from the bot and creating two winning positions
Feb 25 10:15:59 <jurov>	pla explain
Feb 25 10:16:02 <thestringpuller>	so both the shadow man and the bot make money
Feb 25 10:16:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00076476 = 11.0125 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:17:13 <jurov>	thestringpuller, in broad sense, this is well possible without any gray entity, with mkfut/split/whatever
Feb 25 10:17:30 <jurov>	but can you point to exact trades you have an issue with?
Feb 25 10:17:35 <thestringpuller>	im almost certain the btc that just went into s.mpoe came from exiting a winning position
Feb 25 10:17:57 <thestringpuller>	someone with a lot more money than mircea is using mpoe to make made profit
Feb 25 10:18:03 <thestringpuller>	mad*
Feb 25 10:18:36 <thestringpuller>	at the beginning of every month someone enters a postion with like some 1000 btc in contracts
Feb 25 10:18:51 <thestringpuller>	then throughout it slowly gets filtered and sold back to mpoe
Feb 25 10:19:14 <thestringpuller>	i want to prove this but only kako is willing to sell me long term trade data
Feb 25 10:19:47 <jurov>	if you weren't ignoring all my offers, you'd knew i have data, too
Feb 25 10:19:56 <jurov>	and kako actually has them from me
Feb 25 10:20:00 <jurov>	too :D
Feb 25 10:20:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11242 @ 0.00076476 = 8.5974 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00076569 = 8.1546 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:20:05 <thestringpuller>	how much data do you have?
Feb 25 10:20:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2408 @ 0.00076623 = 1.8451 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:20:13 <jurov>	since october 22
Feb 25 10:20:14 <thestringpuller>	what is your min offer
Feb 25 10:20:30 <jurov>	2BTC
Feb 25 10:20:37 <thestringpuller>	data on options right?
Feb 25 10:20:52 <jurov>	it's all trades,including options
Feb 25 10:20:54 <mjr_>	i don't understand
Feb 25 10:21:03 <mjr_>	so someone buys options and futures
Feb 25 10:21:05 <mjr_>	and makes money
Feb 25 10:21:10 <mjr_>	...
Feb 25 10:21:18 <mjr_>	i don't buy them to lose money...
Feb 25 10:21:31 <imsaguy>	blasphemy!
Feb 25 10:21:47 <mjr_>	and if you don't think that these markets, including mt. gox aren't manipulated constantly, then you haven't been watching
Feb 25 10:22:08 <mjr_>	and i am fine with that...if you don't really believe in your position, get out when the price moves "for no reason"
Feb 25 10:22:10 <jurov>	i don't understand,too. if that money was from mpoe, it would show as mpoe loss
Feb 25 10:22:22 <mjr_>	i know that S.DICE makes money, cuz i see the blockchain
Feb 25 10:22:37 <jurov>	if that wasn't from mpoe, then we'd clearly see options volume way above reported by mpoe
Feb 25 10:22:41 <mjr_>	i know that mpoe makes money, cuz i see the spreads on options and i see the shares being bought and sold
Feb 25 10:23:01 <mjr_>	so i get these for dividends, and i just hold them
Feb 25 10:23:50 <jurov>	i have another conspiration theory: these evoorhees investors that sold s.dice decided to go long in s.mpoe
Feb 25 10:24:17 <jurov>	seems actually more sensible to me.. they divesifying a portfolio
Feb 25 10:24:24 <thestringpuller>	if mpoe loses money the valie of mpex decreases
Feb 25 10:24:50 <thestringpuller>	someone with a lot of money has vested interest in it
Feb 25 10:25:20 <jurov>	no i think that didn't happen... s.mpoe value seems pretty independent of dividends
Feb 25 10:26:36 <jurov>	thestringpuller so do you want the data so badly or not?
Feb 25 10:27:06 <thestringpuller>	kako offered .5
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Feb 25 10:27:24 <ThickAsThieves>	can't it just be someone who wanted to control the market of the most frequently traded asset?
Feb 25 10:28:06 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves we know for certain it's someone who had the money on mpex for a long time already
Feb 25 10:28:16 <jurov>	there are no big deposits recently
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Feb 25 10:29:13 <mjr_>	eh, hard to see a scenario where mpoe loses a signifigant amount of money
Feb 25 10:29:29 <mjr_>	you can make money in options, but the premiums you pay are usually pretty high
Feb 25 10:29:30 <jurov>	so either it's someone who sold s.dice or wanted to buy and decided against it when he saw the mess
Feb 25 10:29:42 <mjr_>	what mess?
Feb 25 10:30:09 <jurov>	mjr_ i mean evoorhees changing the plans every day
Feb 25 10:30:20 <mjr_>	oh, what are the plans now?
Feb 25 10:30:26 <jurov>	nobody knows
Feb 25 10:30:36 <mjr_>	ie. there may be more shares being put on the market?
Feb 25 10:30:37 <ThickAsThieves>	evoor has also been mia for a bit
Feb 25 10:30:44 <mjr_>	he was traveling i think
Feb 25 10:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00076475 = 13.0008 BTC [-]
Feb 25 10:30:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00076623 = 6.8961 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:30:55 <ThickAsThieves>	or in meetings, i heard
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Feb 25 10:30:58 <mjr_>	but i talked to him friday
Feb 25 10:31:02 <ThickAsThieves>	oh cool
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Feb 25 10:31:36 <ThickAsThieves>	while i see great long term value in mpoe, i honestly don;t understand the level of value it's at
Feb 25 10:31:37 <mjr_>	anyway, i hope we get more shares, i'm just curious as to how that would work...if he puts them out higher than last tranche
Feb 25 10:31:54 <jurov>	mircea at least announced he will be selling several millions sometime in next 3 months iirc
Feb 25 10:32:20 <mjr_>	i think bitfunder is starting to look pretty attractive, though I think mpex still has the best stocks
Feb 25 10:32:27 <jurov>	so that wouldn't be so big surprise if another mpoe wall arises
Feb 25 10:32:33 <ThickAsThieves>	bitfunder is pretty
Feb 25 10:32:34 <mjr_>	yeah
Feb 25 10:32:42 <jurov>	but evoor... neither here nor there
Feb 25 10:32:42 <mjr_>	i like the simplicity of mpex
Feb 25 10:33:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00075528 = 7.2507 BTC [-]
Feb 25 10:33:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00075529 = 1.5106 BTC [+]
Feb 25 10:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12615 @ 0.00075528 = 9.5279 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 10:49:00 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 25 10:49:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.17693, Best ask: 30.23121, Bid-ask spread: 0.05428, Last trade: 30.23121, 24 hour volume: 30722.27582138, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.94332
Feb 25 10:52:06 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1558355#msg1558355
Feb 25 10:52:21 <jurov>	^^ MPBPT announced its bonds, let trolls descend
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Feb 25 11:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00075452 = 6.8284 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 11:07:57 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Feb 25 11:07:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.20000, Best ask: 30.29999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 30.29999, 24 hour volume: 30135.68044112, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39877, 24 hour vwap: 29.94700
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Feb 25 11:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00075356 = 12.8105 BTC [-]
Feb 25 11:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7021 @ 0.00075355 = 5.2907 BTC [-]
Feb 25 11:19:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6249 @ 0.00075355 = 4.7089 BTC [-]
Feb 25 11:19:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14711 @ 0.00074502 = 10.96 BTC [-]
Feb 25 11:20:05 <deadweasel>	http://bowdoinorient.com/article/8042
Feb 25 11:20:13 <deadweasel>	student papaer talks about SR
Feb 25 11:20:34 <deadweasel>	In the past couple of years, however, anonymous online sites such as .Silk Road. have launched and made illicit drugs widely accessible to students who choose not to buy on campus
Feb 25 11:23:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18035 @ 0.00075452 = 13.6078 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 11:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00076622 = 1.5324 BTC [+]
Feb 25 11:29:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00076623 = 10.4974 BTC [+]
Feb 25 11:31:05 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/3z/5A/4hKrTP8z/hockeystickglobalwarming.png
Feb 25 11:32:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12462 @ 0.00076623 = 9.5488 BTC [+]
Feb 25 11:32:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15288 @ 0.00076647 = 11.7178 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 11:36:12 <Bugpowder>	similar effect on my portfolio value.
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Feb 25 11:39:17 <mjr_>	where is bitfunder located?
Feb 25 11:42:14 <ThickAsThieves>	dunno, canadia?
Feb 25 11:44:46 <topace>	havelock investments is canada
Feb 25 11:44:49 <topace>	not sure about bitfunder
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Feb 25 11:49:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00075891 = 2.2767 BTC [-]
Feb 25 11:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.00076647 = 2.6911 BTC [+]
Feb 25 11:55:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1025 @ 0.00076765 = 0.7868 BTC [+]
Feb 25 11:55:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4810 @ 0.00076809 = 3.6945 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 12:01:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9490 @ 0.00076809 = 7.2892 BTC [+]
Feb 25 12:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11460 @ 0.00076982 = 8.8221 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 12:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00076339 = 5.9544 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 12:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 159 @ 0.00076099 = 0.121 BTC [-]
Feb 25 12:09:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8489 @ 0.00076982 = 6.535 BTC [+]
Feb 25 12:09:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3802 @ 0.0007702 = 2.9283 BTC [+]
Feb 25 12:09:49 <deadweasel>	http://bowdoinorient.com/article/8042   Bowdoin student newspaper article mentioning Silk Road
Feb 25 12:11:54 <jurov>	it's biased, alcohol is not included
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Feb 25 12:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00075892 = 13.357 BTC [-]
Feb 25 12:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2993 @ 0.00075891 = 2.2714 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 12:14:45 <Cylta>	could anyone give me a pyramining ref link?
Feb 25 12:15:22 <deadweasel>	it's biased, it's written by a person
Feb 25 12:15:36 <deadweasel>	Cylte try #bitcoin-mining
Feb 25 12:15:46 <deadweasel>	Cylta: ^
Feb 25 12:15:52 <Cylta>	okay, thanks
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Feb 25 12:38:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10719 @ 0.0007672 = 8.2236 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 12:39:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00077019 = 11.4758 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 12:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00077019 = 2.0795 BTC [+]
Feb 25 12:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4305 @ 0.0007702 = 3.3157 BTC [+]
Feb 25 12:41:04 <jurov>	this mpoe rally is... a bit unnerving. Is there any of the investors?
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Feb 25 12:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2193 @ 0.0007702 = 1.689 BTC [+]
Feb 25 12:45:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7407 @ 0.00077045 = 5.7067 BTC [+]
Feb 25 12:46:50 <thestringpuller>	jurov: it looks like more money has gone into MPEX than has gone out
Feb 25 12:46:56 <thestringpuller>	but a lot has gone in recently...
Feb 25 12:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00077045 = 8.629 BTC [+]
Feb 25 12:49:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11431 @ 0.0007672 = 8.7699 BTC [-]
Feb 25 12:49:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4819 @ 0.00076336 = 3.6786 BTC [-]
Feb 25 12:52:11 <Bugpowder>	How high will it go?
Feb 25 12:52:27 <Bugpowder>	Looks like a big investor made a big buy, and then the bots took over.
Feb 25 12:52:42 <Bugpowder>	with no overhead resistance, how high will it go???
Feb 25 12:53:05 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Feb 25 12:53:07 <thestringpuller>	I know right
Feb 25 12:53:10 <Bugpowder>	I'm sure MP will put a new ceiling with another share block for sale within a month or two.
Feb 25 12:53:25 <thestringpuller>	Is that the only way to keep the bots from making a bubble?
Feb 25 12:53:28 <thestringpuller>	putting up a wall?
Feb 25 12:53:29 <Bugpowder>	i KNEW loading up at .00062 was a good idea...
Feb 25 12:54:11 <Bugpowder>	I don't know how to control the bots.  Sometimes I think they react to large bid or ask walls, but I could be just inferring signal from noise.
Feb 25 12:55:02 <thestringpuller>	"inferring signal from noise" < hmmmm
Feb 25 12:55:10 <thestringpuller>	That's been said to me before by a very smart person.
Feb 25 12:55:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 730 @ 0.00076627 = 0.5594 BTC [+]
Feb 25 12:55:45 <Bugpowder>	Nate Silver?
Feb 25 12:55:57 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Feb 25 12:56:01 <thestringpuller>	...
Feb 25 12:56:07 <thestringpuller>	I like you Bugpowder
Feb 25 12:56:23 <Bugpowder>	awwww
Feb 25 12:56:30 <Bugpowder>	<3
Feb 25 12:59:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17154 @ 0.00076627 = 13.1446 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 13:00:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00076816 = 2.5733 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3043 @ 0.00077045 = 2.3445 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5688 @ 0.00077096 = 4.3852 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:01:52 <kakobrekla>	https://blog.duosecurity.com/2013/02/bypassing-googles-two-factor-authentication/
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Feb 25 13:16:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00077096 = 12.6823 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:17:18 <ThickAsThieves>	:(
Feb 25 13:18:01 <ThickAsThieves>	is that somehting goog can easily fix?
Feb 25 13:18:35 <Bugpowder_>	its fixed
Feb 25 13:18:42 <Bugpowder_>	see bottom of page
Feb 25 13:19:01 <ThickAsThieves>	ah i see now
Feb 25 13:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00077096 = 11.6029 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 13:32:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24410 @ 0.00077096 = 18.8191 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:36:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00076888 = 1.384 BTC [-]
Feb 25 13:36:51 <Mandrius>	!topic
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Feb 25 13:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00076889 = 8.5347 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:44:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.00599 = 0.0479 BTC [-]
Feb 25 13:48:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 13 @ 0.00072 = 0.0094 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:48:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.00072 = 0.144 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:48:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.00073 = 0.0365 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:48:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00073 = 0.73 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:48:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.00074 = 0.0148 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:48:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4162 @ 0.00074 = 3.0799 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 13:51:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52 @ 0.00077096 = 0.0401 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:51:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4048 @ 0.0007721 = 3.1255 BTC [+]
Feb 25 13:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00076889 = 4.152 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 14:02:46 <thestringpuller>	jurov: you were not considering profits from options exercised
Feb 25 14:03:56 <jurov>	and were there so many calls sold?
Feb 25 14:05:13 <jurov>	MPOE feb report says: contracts exercised : 694.53906764 BTC
Feb 25 14:05:33 <thestringpuller>	it could be someone collecting over time
Feb 25 14:05:47 <jurov>	what we have seen with s.mpoe need 10x as much
Feb 25 14:05:58 <thestringpuller>	do withdrawals come from
Feb 25 14:06:07 <thestringpuller>	the same address as deposits?
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Feb 25 14:06:32 <jurov>	often yes
Feb 25 14:07:04 <thestringpuller>	ill make a datagraph of cashflow going into mpex
Feb 25 14:07:43 <Bugpowder_>	http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
Feb 25 14:08:12 <Bugpowder_>	does that take into account cold storage?
Feb 25 14:08:56 <Bugpowder_>	seems unlikely given the amount in the wallet in Nov
Feb 25 14:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00076889 = 0.8458 BTC [-]
Feb 25 14:10:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00076888 = 2.4989 BTC [-]
Feb 25 14:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1446 @ 0.00076738 = 1.1096 BTC [-]
Feb 25 14:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 304 @ 0.00076336 = 0.2321 BTC [-]
Feb 25 14:12:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.0022 = 0.022 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13552 @ 0.0007721 = 10.4635 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:12:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00077211 = 19.0711 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11654 @ 0.00077218 = 8.999 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00077464 = 12.7428 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:12:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2444 @ 0.00077505 = 1.8942 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:17:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10856 @ 0.00077505 = 8.4139 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4444 @ 0.00077574 = 3.4474 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 14:19:14 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 25 14:19:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.36501, Best ask: 30.39000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02499, Last trade: 30.36501, 24 hour volume: 29335.04571180, 24 hour low: 29.20123, 24 hour high: 30.39000, 24 hour vwap: 29.95731
Feb 25 14:19:42 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 31
Feb 25 14:19:44 <gribble>	There are currently 6502.7346 bitcoins offered at or under 31.0 USD, worth 199960.733222 USD in total.
Feb 25 14:19:50 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29
Feb 25 14:19:51 <Bugpowder_>	;;asks 31.92
Feb 25 14:19:52 <gribble>	There are currently 8486.0226 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 249122.523027 USD in total.
Feb 25 14:19:54 <gribble>	There are currently 13672.915 bitcoins offered at or under 31.92 USD, worth 425740.422215 USD in total.
Feb 25 14:20:05 <Bugpowder_>	oh my... S.MPOE on a tear again
Feb 25 14:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15 @ 0.00076336 = 0.0115 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 14:32:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00599 = 0.03 BTC [-]
Feb 25 14:33:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.0062 = 0.062 BTC [-]
Feb 25 14:33:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3499 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 14:36:17 <dub>	neat
Feb 25 14:37:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8434 @ 0.00076673 = 6.4666 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 14:43:17 <Ukto>	New asset launched on BitFunder. https://bitfunder.com/asset/BitPride
Feb 25 14:43:21 <Ukto>	Already 10% of shares sold
Feb 25 14:44:28 <dub>	sounds pretty gay
Feb 25 14:44:36 <thestringpuller>	what is bitpride?
Feb 25 14:45:18 <dub>	I assume its some kind of bitcoin for homosexuals thing
Feb 25 14:46:12 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 25 14:46:18 <Ukto>	they sell shirts and other stuff
Feb 25 14:46:21 <Ukto>	70% profits
Feb 25 14:46:29 <Ukto>	bitcoin shirts, etc
Feb 25 14:46:38 <pigeons>	with rainbows on em
Feb 25 14:46:49 <Ukto>	.. you knocking the rainbows and unicorns? :P
Feb 25 14:46:57 <dub>	http://bitcoinpride.com/
Feb 25 14:47:06 <ThickAsThieves>	what will they do with the IPO coins?
Feb 25 14:47:08 <dub>	terrible designs
Feb 25 14:47:26 <dub>	this smells of MNW
Feb 25 14:47:42 <Ukto>	MNW?
Feb 25 14:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00619999 = 12.4 BTC [-]
Feb 25 14:48:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1878 @ 0.0062 = 11.6436 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1122 @ 0.00624656 = 7.0086 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-25/japan-matrix-now-reality-humans-are-used-living-batteries
Feb 25 14:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	le lol.
Feb 25 14:48:25 <Ukto>	he said fudns will be used for stock production of newer items, mousepads, mugs, etc
Feb 25 14:48:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.64 = 1.28 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:48:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 48 @ 0.63 = 30.24 BTC [-]
Feb 25 14:49:00 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> I assume its some kind of bitcoin for homosexuals thing lmao
Feb 25 14:49:24 <jurov>	already have gay colored coins
Feb 25 14:50:10 <Ukto>	jurov: for what?
Feb 25 14:50:18 <Ukto>	posting pictures of africans
Feb 25 14:50:20 <Ukto>	or some crap ?
Feb 25 14:50:27 <pigeons>	yes
Feb 25 14:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00077428 = 3.794 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:50:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4931 @ 0.00077574 = 3.8252 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2369 @ 0.00077684 = 1.8403 BTC [+]
Feb 25 14:50:59 <jurov>	http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/5695/what-are-colored-coins
Feb 25 14:51:27 <jurov>	basically, they will put all of us out of business ;)
Feb 25 14:52:10 <dub>	mircea_popescu: the word pride has been universally aquired by the GLBT community
Feb 25 14:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	dub they wish. a lion's pride is still a buncha slave chicks
Feb 25 14:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	doing the dishes and whatnot
Feb 25 14:53:14 <dub>	maybe in Romanistani BDSM vernacular, elsewhere its a bunch of homo cats
Feb 25 14:53:39 <mircea_popescu>	nohomo
Feb 25 14:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	"A pride of lions consists of related females and offspring and a small number of adult males."
Feb 25 14:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	lmao @retardopedia.
Feb 25 14:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	srsly. a pride of lions consists of a lion and his owned females + offspring.
Feb 25 14:54:18 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is this restating reality in libertard terms.
Feb 25 14:54:29 <dub>	free shipping on orders over $100, because im goign to buy 140 bitcoin t-shirts
Feb 25 14:54:48 <mircea_popescu>	dub well if you buy for the whole pride...
Feb 25 14:55:38 <ThickAsThieves>	72 cents for a shirt?
Feb 25 14:55:48 <dub>	.7 euro
Feb 25 14:56:20 <jborkl>	Mp, I want to sell covered calls- at $31 strike and a ceratin price- can you tell me properly format. Thank you
Feb 25 14:56:23 <dub>	or is that bitcoins
Feb 25 14:56:32 <ThickAsThieves>	obv
Feb 25 14:56:49 <pigeons>	jborkl: that would be providing customer service
Feb 25 14:57:00 <jurov>	jborkl, read faq and then ask concretely
Feb 25 14:57:15 <jurov>	or use coinbr. we can do it for you
Feb 25 14:57:47 <jborkl>	The MKOPT command does not state price as a option
Feb 25 14:57:51 <jborkl>	in the faq
Feb 25 14:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl SELL|O.BTCUSD310T|10|100 sells 10 at 100 satoshi each.
Feb 25 14:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	bah
Feb 25 14:58:19 <jborkl>	Thank you mp
Feb 25 14:58:23 <jurov>	jborkl cause collateral is determined by mpex
Feb 25 14:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	SELL|O.BTCUSD.C310T|10|100
Feb 25 14:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	wait. mkopt doesn't state price ?! what ?
Feb 25 14:59:37 <jborkl>	I was not sure if it was - sell - like regular options or mkopt
Feb 25 14:59:49 <jborkl>	sell to open and buy to close
Feb 25 14:59:57 <jborkl>	like nasdaq or nyse
Feb 25 14:59:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.00599 = 0.0659 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:00:01 <jurov>	mkopt/split accepts whole sum, user has to compute himself how many puts/calls will be done
Feb 25 15:00:02 <jborkl>	it is the same
Feb 25 15:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00077307 = 9.3928 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl sell sells. mkopt creates them but does't sell
Feb 25 15:00:24 <jurov>	*done->created
Feb 25 15:02:21 <jurov>	lol, mpex interface is YKWYD
Feb 25 15:02:23 <jurov>	You Know What You Did
Feb 25 15:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 25 15:03:28 <jurov>	http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouKnowWhatYouDid
Feb 25 15:03:33 <mircea_popescu>	true anonimity!
Feb 25 15:04:00 <dub>	a YTMND interface would be better
Feb 25 15:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	nocosby.
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Feb 25 15:04:28 <jborkl>	I understand, thanks for the explanation
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Feb 25 15:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	jurov your evil plan to have me lost in tvtropes for the rest of the night fails
Feb 25 15:05:31 <dub>	mircea_popescu: haha http://moonpissedrap.ytmnd.com/
Feb 25 15:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	i just forwarded the link.
Feb 25 15:05:57 <jurov>	forwarded to where? to punish the girl?
Feb 25 15:06:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00077312 = 9.4707 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:06:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1404 @ 0.00077684 = 1.0907 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, to an unfortunate victim.
Feb 25 15:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 650 @ 0.00077307 = 0.5025 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3716 @ 0.00076673 = 2.8492 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:08:01 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i borrowed your bond system for raising capital
Feb 25 15:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11684 @ 0.00076336 = 8.9191 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:08:06 <thestringpuller>	very effective....
Feb 25 15:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.0061727 = 16.049 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00624655 = 12.4931 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:08:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00624656 = 2.4986 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:08:40 <jurov>	thestringpuller, where?
Feb 25 15:08:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.631 = 1.262 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:08:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 48 @ 0.63 = 30.24 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:09:01 <jurov>	used it on your kids?
Feb 25 15:09:20 <thestringpuller>	no. for a project of mine
Feb 25 15:09:27 <thestringpuller>	promoting a concert
Feb 25 15:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol mpex leaks into rl./
Feb 25 15:10:28 <topace>	mircea_popescu: waiting for a deposit to be credited... 40 confirmations now.. can you click your magic button please?
Feb 25 15:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4282 @ 0.00077684 = 3.3264 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:11:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13068 @ 0.0007774 = 10.1591 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:12:01 <jurov>	no magic button... mircea has to open the safe behind 5 armored doors protected by DNA analyzer where the paper wallet is
Feb 25 15:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	all magic buttons clicked.
Feb 25 15:12:59 <dub>	http://struttingavenger.ytmnd.com/
Feb 25 15:13:03 <jurov>	oh noes.. i'm chitchatting here and have waiting deposits too....
Feb 25 15:13:11 <topace>	midnightmagic: thank you!
Feb 25 15:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1978 @ 0.00624656 = 12.3557 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 25 15:13:44 <mircea_popescu>	FINE! next time go to midnightmagic to halp.
Feb 25 15:13:55 <mircea_popescu>	this is thanks scamming
Feb 25 15:14:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 505 @ 0.0063798 = 3.2218 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0063798 = 12.7596 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:14:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00637989 = 3.1899 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:14:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 470 @ 0.00637989 = 2.9985 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:14:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 26525 @ 0.0063799 = 169.2268 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:14:27 <dub>	bitcointalk explained http://discordponies.ytmnd.com/
Feb 25 15:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.0007774 = 4.4312 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:16:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21093 @ 0.0007774 = 16.3977 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:17:57 <dub>	remembering why ytmnd is bad, too many lols not enough time
Feb 25 15:18:01 <dub>	last one http://mashedpotatostyle.ytmnd.com/
Feb 25 15:20:58 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu !!
Feb 25 15:21:04 <Anduck>	i pmed you, did you get my message.
Feb 25 15:21:04 <mircea_popescu>	?
Feb 25 15:21:12 <Anduck>	dont say it wasnt appropriately formatted
Feb 25 15:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	yea, it was some vague self centered crap.
Feb 25 15:21:22 <Anduck>	let me pm you again.
Feb 25 15:21:23 <mircea_popescu>	and so it got discarded.
Feb 25 15:21:29 <Anduck>	this time i will format is more srs
Feb 25 15:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	kay. try to phrase it so that it makes sense to someone who's not inside your head.
Feb 25 15:22:39 <Anduck>	i tried atleast now :I
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Feb 25 15:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13159 @ 0.00076881 = 10.1168 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:25:37 <topace>	lol damn tab button
Feb 25 15:26:00 <topace>	mircea_popescu:  thanks :)
Feb 25 15:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Feb 25 15:26:55 <topace>	13 million shares of s.dice trading on mpex right?
Feb 25 15:27:18 <Anduck>	http://bitbet.us/bet/261/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-15th/
Feb 25 15:27:22 <Anduck>	=)
Feb 25 15:27:24 <Anduck>	wanna bet?
Feb 25 15:27:56 <topace>	havelock now has 8% of the 13m -- my goal was 10% by end of feb.. which we would have passed if erik didnt release those 3m extra shares!
Feb 25 15:28:55 <mircea_popescu>	topace as long as there's buying pressure should be doable.
Feb 25 15:29:17 <Bugpowder_>	but u didn't buy any shares
Feb 25 15:29:20 <Bugpowder_>	just now
Feb 25 15:29:48 <topace>	i didnt?
Feb 25 15:30:09 <topace>	S.DICE x 1`040`000
Feb 25 15:30:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00076436 = 9.0959 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:30:42 <Bugpowder_>	no u didn't
Feb 25 15:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	someone bought 5k just before he sold 5k above neh ?
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Feb 25 15:31:20 <Azelphur>	jurov: sorry for the delay merging your commits, been away :p
Feb 25 15:31:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 750 @ 0.53093481 = 398.2011 BTC
Feb 25 15:31:49 <Azelphur>	by away I mean "spending every waking hour at #GEEK2013" :P
Feb 25 15:34:16 <jurov>	Azelphur, as long as it's done before March 10, it's OK
Feb 25 15:34:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1278 @ 0.00076336 = 0.9756 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:34:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9622 @ 0.00076164 = 7.3285 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:34:24 <Azelphur>	yea, it's already merged :)
Feb 25 15:35:29 <Azelphur>	my life over the weekend has basically been wake up, go to geek 2013 at 10am, leave at 5pm while they switch into over 18s mode and get a takeout, back in at 6pm, out at 11pm, sleep, repeat
Feb 25 15:35:30 <Azelphur>	xD
Feb 25 15:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00076164 = 3.5035 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	havbing fun ?
Feb 25 15:37:33 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: hell yes xD
Feb 25 15:37:52 <Azelphur>	mircea_popescu: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/aweozfzwfr2qwqo/5PWdlBFFrO#f:2013-02-23%2011.28.41.jpg every screen is a console, literally thousands of games, more off camera
Feb 25 15:37:59 <Azelphur>	everything from binatones to xboxes.
Feb 25 15:38:04 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Feb 25 15:38:12 <Azelphur>	6 minutes walk from my house
Feb 25 15:38:13 <Azelphur>	:D
Feb 25 15:38:49 *	Azelphur is hyped for next year, it's my new favourite thing.
Feb 25 15:41:37 <dub>	its a LAN for console gamers?
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Feb 25 15:42:08 <Azelphur>	dub: it's a retro gaming event, so they have lots of old stuff, no LAN but plenty of multiplayer going on
Feb 25 15:42:09 *	jcpham LANs
Feb 25 15:42:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1778 @ 0.00076164 = 1.3542 BTC [-]
Feb 25 15:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2422 @ 0.00076118 = 1.8436 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 15:43:19 <Azelphur>	dub: I spent most of the time playing games like goldeneye (n64), powerstone (dc), mario kart 64, etc
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Feb 25 15:43:46 <Azelphur>	got to play on an OUYA and meet with a dev, too
Feb 25 15:44:20 <DeadWeasel>	did you play any Quake?
Feb 25 15:44:33 <Azelphur>	I'm not sure if quake was there
Feb 25 15:44:53 <DeadWeasel>	not really a console game
Feb 25 15:45:03 <Azelphur>	yea, it was mostly about consoles
Feb 25 15:45:10 <Azelphur>	I'm more of a PC gamer myself, but it was still very fun
Feb 25 15:45:25 <dub>	console nerds are wierd
Feb 25 15:45:29 <DeadWeasel>	did you ask them to accept your bitcoins as payment?
Feb 25 15:45:40 <dub>	I've got a buddy with like two of every console ever made
Feb 25 15:45:47 <Azelphur>	DeadWeasel: nope haha
Feb 25 15:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3634 @ 0.00076436 = 2.7777 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 666 @ 0.00077362 = 0.5152 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:47:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.0095 = 0.0285 BTC [+]
Feb 25 15:48:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00599 = 0.03 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 15:50:23 <Ukto>	hey sgornick , another asset launched. https://bitfunder.com/asset/BitPride I think you know the owner. lol
Feb 25 15:50:33 <Ukto>	or at least you should :P
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Feb 25 15:56:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.00075 = 0.0023 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 15:57:16 <pigeons>	his wife is gay?
Feb 25 16:01:31 <aethero>	pigeons its OK if you're gay. We don't judge here. The internet is for all.
Feb 25 16:02:18 <pigeons>	i agree
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Feb 25 16:04:15 <jcpham>	aethero is ziggap still your thing
Feb 25 16:04:29 <aethero>	I'm on the team
Feb 25 16:04:35 <aethero>	why
Feb 25 16:04:37 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons is not gay
Feb 25 16:04:43 <jcpham>	i thought it was
Feb 25 16:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	he just has a single hole for all jobs.
Feb 25 16:04:49 <Ukto>	jcpham: +1 ziggap :)
Feb 25 16:04:57 <jcpham>	i read a press release and saw the florida address
Feb 25 16:05:04 <jcpham>	i didn't realize there was a team
Feb 25 16:05:06 <aethero>	Thats just the mailin gaddress.
Feb 25 16:05:12 <jcpham>	and thought it was you and the lady-chef
Feb 25 16:05:20 <jcpham>	i understand
Feb 25 16:05:34 <aethero>	Its me, the lady-chef, a developer, and more
Feb 25 16:05:43 <jcpham>	super. good for you guys
Feb 25 16:05:56 <jcpham>	lemme know if you need local help
Feb 25 16:05:59 <jcpham>	i work for bacon
Feb 25 16:06:06 <Namworld>	Hmm... new stuff on bitfunder
Feb 25 16:06:15 <aethero>	jcpham Got a dryer to sell? lol
Feb 25 16:06:18 <aethero>	And deliver?
Feb 25 16:06:26 <sgornick>	Ukto: Thanks.  I'm flummoxed that nowhere is there an "Inc.", "LLC", "Ltd", etc., in the profiles of listings.
Feb 25 16:06:27 <jcpham>	clothes dryer?
Feb 25 16:06:31 <aethero>	Yes
Feb 25 16:06:36 <aethero>	Ours burned out this morning
Feb 25 16:06:42 <sgornick>	That's two IPOs in two days where in the U.S., crowdfunding equity was raised from the public.  The SEC still hasn't published its rules or this would be more common.  (Still wouldn't be done the same way from them, ..., i.e., couldn't buy shares anonymously but there would be a path for an entrepreneur to put a company out there.)
Feb 25 16:07:05 <jcpham>	i did but I have family in college
Feb 25 16:07:05 <Namworld>	G.MPOE relatively cheap still...
Feb 25 16:07:08 <jcpham>	they took it i think
Feb 25 16:07:21 <Namworld>	sgornick: these are not IPO, these are profit lease...
Feb 25 16:07:47 <dub>	gaypride assets on buttfunder amirite
Feb 25 16:08:24 <Namworld>	apparently it's perfectly legal to sell rights to profits as long as it's not ownership in the company.
Feb 25 16:08:25 <sgornick>	There is a ZigGap LLC, on their site but the Asset listing doesn't use that,so not sure what I'ld own.
Feb 25 16:08:47 <sgornick>	BitPride isn't even an LLC or whatever, I have no idea what I'ld own if I held a share.
Feb 25 16:08:51 <Namworld>	Apparently...
Feb 25 16:08:54 <jcpham>	ooh i can buy ziggap
Feb 25 16:08:59 <jcpham>	where
Feb 25 16:09:00 <aethero>	You're not buying ziggap.
Feb 25 16:09:01 <Ukto>	sgornick: neither one are selling ownership of the companies
Feb 25 16:09:04 <Ukto>	jcpham : pm
Feb 25 16:09:20 <Namworld>	sgornick, even if you bought ziggap you wouldn't parts of ziggap LLC
Feb 25 16:09:35 <Namworld>	only the profits are sold
Feb 25 16:09:51 *	jcpham ziggaps all the llc
Feb 25 16:09:53 <Ukto>	both ziggap and bitpride are only selling rights to profits, not actual ownership of the businesses
Feb 25 16:10:01 <jcpham>	wait bitpride....
Feb 25 16:10:04 <jcpham>	wth is that
Feb 25 16:10:07 <sgornick>	Namworld: I see.   That isn't clear from the profile.  A rational person might think otherwise from viewing the site.
Feb 25 16:10:11 <aethero>	jcpham: T shirts.
Feb 25 16:10:23 <Namworld>	jcpham: it's the bitsexuals' movement
Feb 25 16:10:26 <pigeons>	with rainbows
Feb 25 16:10:30 <dub>	jcpham likes to zigegape his buttpride
Feb 25 16:10:33 <pigeons>	not that theyres anything wrong wit hit
Feb 25 16:10:35 <aethero>	Shares of ZigGap
Feb 25 16:10:35 <aethero>	ZigGap is comprised of 50,000,000 shares in total.
Feb 25 16:10:35 <aethero>	1 share of ZigGap on BitFunder represents 1/50,000,000th of monthly profits after all costs.
Feb 25 16:10:35 <aethero>	ZigGap shares offer no voting rights. Shares of ZigGap on BitFunder do not represent real world shares of the company.
Feb 25 16:10:37 <sgornick>	> Should the company be sold, the full amount of the purchase price will be evenly distributed amongst the 50,000,000 shares.
Feb 25 16:10:39 <aethero>	It says it right in the description
Feb 25 16:10:42 <jcpham>	bitpride name needs to die
Feb 25 16:10:45 <dub>	ziggape*
Feb 25 16:10:59 <sgornick>	Why would I receive a fraction of purchase price without owning part of the company?
Feb 25 16:11:08 <jcpham>	sorry last time i bought shares it worked out horribly
Feb 25 16:11:10 <Ukto>	legal reasoning
Feb 25 16:11:12 <jcpham>	so i stopped
Feb 25 16:12:05 <dub>	is that legal reasoning, like find some vaguely related statue and assume it applies to you
Feb 25 16:12:18 <sgornick>	heh, dub.
Feb 25 16:13:13 <Namworld>	dub is our official angry asshole. He looked a bit depressed a few days ago but now he's back in business.
Feb 25 16:13:43 <pigeons>	wait where does that leave esk
Feb 25 16:13:48 <pigeons>	eskimobob
Feb 25 16:14:17 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-02-25/lil-poopy-is-a-9-year-old-rapper-who-slaps-adult-womans-ass-in-music-video/
Feb 25 16:14:20 <ThickAsThieves>	Lil Poopy
Feb 25 16:14:24 <jcpham>	dead, pigeons
Feb 25 16:14:33 <jcpham>	it leaves eskimobob dead.
Feb 25 16:14:37 <dub>	I'd call Namworld the official stater of obviouslness but that would be dividing by zero
Feb 25 16:14:40 <pigeons>	he'll always be my official angry asshole
Feb 25 16:15:24 <dub>	theres angry asshole and theres psychotic foam spitting madman
Feb 25 16:16:48 <Namworld>	oh. Working to be promoted to the later?
Feb 25 16:17:16 <dub>	excuse me while I go back to mostly ignoring you
Feb 25 16:18:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
Feb 25 16:21:31 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 25 16:21:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.30723, Best ask: 30.39999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09276, Last trade: 30.39999, 24 hour volume: 26301.19175573, 24 hour low: 29.35001, 24 hour high: 30.40000, 24 hour vwap: 30.03463
Feb 25 16:22:08 <dub>	im in a webex with someone that should be the official worst presenter ever, flat monotone irish accent reading from a script too quietly, doesnt know how to drive powerpoint (clicking through preview slides)
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Feb 25 16:24:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3499 = 3.499 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 16:27:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00599 = 0.018 BTC [-]
Feb 25 16:27:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.3499 = 1.3996 BTC [-]
Feb 25 16:28:11 <dub>	and parroting too much fucking ITILspeak
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Feb 25 16:28:47 <mod6>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Feb 25 16:28:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061614 / 0.00071254 / 0.00078 (13271604 shares, 9,456.58 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00068091 / 0.00078 (23129522 shares, 15,749.21 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067084 / 0.00078 (72587273 shares, 48,695.14 BTC)
Feb 25 16:30:24 <mod6>	how's it goin today :]
Feb 25 16:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	well apparently
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Feb 25 16:36:04 <mod6>	yeah!
Feb 25 16:38:07 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 25 16:38:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.62410000 / 0.64039738 / 0.69400000 (242 shares, 154.97616500 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.66900467 / 0.75100000 (1451 shares, 970.72577407 BTC), 30D: 0.52100000 / 0.66633885 / 0.89000000 (10896 shares, 7260.42815402 BTC)
Feb 25 16:41:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.0007736 = 12.3389 BTC [-]
Feb 25 16:41:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00599 = 0.03 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 16:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/permanently-elevated-plateau/
Feb 25 16:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	recomended reading for that last paragraph.
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Feb 25 16:58:47 *	jcpham refuses to purchase credits
Feb 25 16:58:54 *	jcpham demands everything for free
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Feb 25 17:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17677 @ 0.00077015 = 13.6139 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2812 @ 0.00077014 = 2.1656 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:02:15 <dub>	so can someone explain what ziggap does
Feb 25 17:02:30 <aethero>	Get endlessly trolled
Feb 25 17:03:32 <aethero>	ziggap does direct bitcoin sales
Feb 25 17:03:54 <dub>	so its an exchange?
Feb 25 17:04:32 <dub>	or it cold calls you in the middle fo teh night/shows up at your door with a vacume cleaner
Feb 25 17:04:34 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't buy does it
Feb 25 17:04:52 <dub>	presumably its buying some fiat currency
Feb 25 17:05:07 <aethero>	We're like fastcash4bitcoins except in reverse.
Feb 25 17:05:15 <aethero>	Are they an exchange?
Feb 25 17:05:19 <dub>	I don't know what that is
Feb 25 17:05:20 <ThickAsThieves>	thx for the article mp, good stuff
Feb 25 17:05:43 <aethero>	https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/about.aspx
Feb 25 17:05:54 <aethero>	FastCash4Bitcoins is a service of Tangible Cryptography LLC. We are not an exchange; we are a direct buyer of bitcoins. In keeping with the bitcoin philosophy of limited third party trust we don't hold client's balances (bitcoins or dollars), instead we only accept a sale when we can promptly pay it
Feb 25 17:05:58 <aethero>	We're the same. In reverse.
Feb 25 17:06:05 <aethero>	We're not an exchange. We are a direct seller of Bitcoins.
Feb 25 17:07:04 <ThickAsThieves>	like he said, you buy fiat
Feb 25 17:07:08 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Feb 25 17:07:41 <ThickAsThieves>	sell btc/buy fiat, exchange fiat for btc, pay divs, right?
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Feb 25 17:08:26 <SpNg>	mircea_popescu: good article. I like your analysis.
Feb 25 17:10:08 <Bugpowder_>	wow... SP500 tanked
Feb 25 17:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	SpNg ;)
Feb 25 17:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ aww, quantitatively quantitative easing fizzled again ?
Feb 25 17:13:17 <SpNg>	mircea_popescu: i recently found your exchange and blog. It's been a good read. Just getting into BTC, but I like this S.DICE investment. I have been wanting to ask you, how does one purchase shares with your exchange?
Feb 25 17:14:13 <pigeons>	echo '|gpg --clearsign|gpg --encrypt --armor -r F1B69921
Feb 25 17:14:32 <dub>	one does not simply walk into mpex
Feb 25 17:15:09 <ThickAsThieves>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#3
Feb 25 17:15:38 <Bugpowder_>	step 1 ) purchase a 6 pack of your favorite beer.
Feb 25 17:16:15 <SpNg>	ThickAsThieves: I see. That FAQ is what I have been looking for.
Feb 25 17:17:12 <ThickAsThieves>	cool cool
Feb 25 17:17:59 <ThickAsThieves>	if that's too geeky for you, shares are also sold through brokers on other exchanges
Feb 25 17:18:26 <ThickAsThieves>	but you give up 5% of your sdice dividends
Feb 25 17:18:53 <ThickAsThieves>	the exchanges are listed when you log into this channel
Feb 25 17:18:53 <SpNg>	<-- Software dev. loves the geeky stuff.
Feb 25 17:18:59 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Feb 25 17:19:14 <SpNg>	so it's 30 BTC fee + 5% of the dividend payout?
Feb 25 17:19:30 <Bowjob>	no
Feb 25 17:20:03 <SpNg>	Bowjob: I just re read, I c
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Feb 25 17:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	SpNg well, you issue an order
Feb 25 17:25:32 <SpNg>	mircea_popescu: I was trying to figure out how to get an account. ThickAsThieves pointed me to the FAQ. Exactly what I was looking for. ;-)
Feb 25 17:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	a cool!
Feb 25 17:25:43 <jurov>	coinbr.com does NOT rob you of 5% of dividends ;)
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Feb 25 17:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	oh lovely, huffpoo has opinion pieces on cash now ?!
Feb 25 17:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	what's next, i'm going to read theosophy on somethingbawful ?
Feb 25 17:29:52 <jurov>	AUSTERITY COUNTDOWN: 4 DAYS TIL PAIN . Bitcoin users not affected.
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Feb 25 17:30:23 <Bowjob>	whats in 4 days?
Feb 25 17:30:30 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 31
Feb 25 17:30:32 <gribble>	There are currently 7358.0245 bitcoins offered at or under 31.0 USD, worth 225943.062008 USD in total.
Feb 25 17:30:34 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE div
Feb 25 17:30:35 <Bugpowder>	?
Feb 25 17:30:36 <thestringpuller>	;;bids
Feb 25 17:30:36 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
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Feb 25 17:30:43 <jurov>	Bowjob, go to huff.to
Feb 25 17:30:44 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 30
Feb 25 17:30:45 <gribble>	There are currently 930.16598 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 27935.0288526 USD in total.
Feb 25 17:30:49 <jurov>	some fearmongering
Feb 25 17:30:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 25 17:30:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.13001, Best ask: 30.14999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01998, Last trade: 30.14999, 24 hour volume: 26135.40088171, 24 hour low: 29.50001, 24 hour high: 30.40000, 24 hour vwap: 30.05456
Feb 25 17:31:24 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 30.12
Feb 25 17:31:24 <gribble>	30.12
Feb 25 17:31:28 <jurov>	i guess in 4 days a peculiar platinum coin will be unveiled
Feb 25 17:31:39 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 30.12 * .012
Feb 25 17:31:39 <gribble>	0.36144
Feb 25 17:32:00 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 29
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Feb 25 17:32:02 <gribble>	There are currently 8834.2843 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 259243.946894 USD in total.
Feb 25 17:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00077013 = 7.1622 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:32:38 <jurov>	...a top administration official warned that the nation's borders would be less secure. oh my
Feb 25 17:35:08 <jurov>	 <Bugpowder> S.DICE div? lmao somebody should tell obama to buy shares to save the US budget
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Feb 25 17:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00076119 = 12.179 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:35:29 <jurov>	or put a trillion on "lessthan 1"
Feb 25 17:35:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15478 @ 0.00076118 = 11.7815 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2464 @ 0.00075891 = 1.87 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11962 @ 0.00075883 = 9.0771 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17987 @ 0.00075864 = 13.6457 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00075743 = 27.3432 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14767 @ 0.00075619 = 11.1667 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:35:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00075518 = 5.3618 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:35:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00075418 = 5.958 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:36:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00075343 = 4.6713 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00075335 = 20.1144 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16853 @ 0.00075204 = 12.6741 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:36:32 <thestringpuller>	there she pops
Feb 25 17:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	jurov is a trillion more than 0.01 btc yet ?
Feb 25 17:37:26 <Namworld>	mircea: it's always been. I'd exchange 0.01 BTC for a trillion anytime
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Feb 25 17:37:54 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Feb 25 17:38:08 <Namworld>	Buy myself a few thousand gold bars and some companies...
Feb 25 17:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 530 @ 1.49949501 = 794.7324 BTC [-]
Feb 25 17:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	better off buying tungsten bars
Feb 25 17:39:21 <jurov>	should have sold moar at 77740.. but good :)
Feb 25 17:39:42 <Namworld>	Oh, I'm fine with buying tons of bars of every metal.
Feb 25 17:39:49 <Namworld>	Many large multinationals have a market cap uner 1 billion... I could buy myself a thousand multinationals at least
Feb 25 17:40:37 <Bowjob>	itd be nice if mr whale can bump dice to before pre erkik dump levels
Feb 25 17:41:17 <jurov>	seriously, when USG issues btc bonds, what interest rate would you ask?
Feb 25 17:41:30 <jurov>	i wouldn't go below 10% monthly
Feb 25 17:42:06 <Namworld>	I'd charge them royalties on the name BTC-BOND
Feb 25 17:42:06 <dub>	call me when its a palladium coin
Feb 25 17:42:09 <thestringpuller>	capital expenses
Feb 25 17:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	jurov why 10% ?!
Feb 25 17:42:29 <thestringpuller>	wow that put is deep in the money
Feb 25 17:42:44 <Bugpowder_>	shorting
Feb 25 17:43:02 <Bugpowder_>	its the fourth big short position added in the last 3 days
Feb 25 17:43:14 <jurov>	MPBOR+5% ... but should prolly ask more
Feb 25 17:43:31 <Bowjob>	you can lose from mpbor, right?
Feb 25 17:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ short put = long btc
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Feb 25 17:44:19 <jurov>	mpbor itself is always positive... only the end result of mpoe can be negative, that's different thing
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Feb 25 17:44:59 <Bugpowder_>	mircea_popescu: Thank you for today's lesson
Feb 25 17:45:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 25 17:46:44 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: the whale lives!
Feb 25 17:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	o?
Feb 25 17:46:56 <Namworld>	jurov: MPBOR can be negative...
Feb 25 17:47:13 <Namworld>	no?
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Feb 25 17:49:52 <thestringpuller>	no mircea eats the losses
Feb 25 17:50:21 <jurov>	look on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlhB0UHVxS67dGpBc2Rub3FtLTdHZ3ZPb09DY2pHWlE
Feb 25 17:50:32 <jurov>	the "net result" can be negative
Feb 25 17:50:56 <jurov>	but mpbor was always positive (it's not there explicitly)
Feb 25 17:51:18 <jurov>	but you can compute it as interest paid out/raised capital
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Feb 25 17:53:02 <jurov>	only when exercises + interest paid out > earnings from sales of options, then net result = mpbor
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Feb 25 17:53:13 <jurov>	derp
Feb 25 17:53:23 <jurov>	only when exercises + interest paid out < earnings from sales of options, then net result = mpbor
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Feb 25 17:58:13 <Namworld>	right
Feb 25 17:58:33 <Namworld>	still, MPBOR could be a big loser on a very bad month
Feb 25 17:58:43 <Namworld>	Although quite good history
Feb 25 17:58:50 <thestringpuller>	no
Feb 25 17:58:55 <Bugpowder_>	yes
Feb 25 17:59:06 <thestringpuller>	nooo! thats impossible
Feb 25 17:59:07 <dub>	maybe
Feb 25 17:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	has happened.
Feb 25 17:59:58 <Namworld>	MPBOR is funds lent for options? As such, losses by the options bot would be taken from MPBOR deposits nay?
Feb 25 18:00:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu usually ends up putting up capital in those scenarios
Feb 25 18:00:44 <Bugpowder_>	thestringpuller:  you don't know what you are talking about
Feb 25 18:01:01 <Bugpowder_>	MPBOR is high risk, limited reward
Feb 25 18:01:05 <jurov>	yes but in the end the proportional part is taken from all bonds
Feb 25 18:01:20 <Bugpowder_>	Not attractive IMHO
Feb 25 18:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ it's only risk if it meets your desired reward.
Feb 25 18:01:39 <Bugpowder_>	what IS attractive is owning 85% of S.MPOE and collecting all the cream off the top
Feb 25 18:01:49 <thestringpuller>	lol
Feb 25 18:01:56 <thestringpuller>	expensive endeavor :P
Feb 25 18:02:25 <jurov>	Bugpowder_ that was last feasible in April
Feb 25 18:02:26 <Bugpowder_>	start your own MPOE
Feb 25 18:02:49 <Bugpowder_>	or at least an MPOE bot
Feb 25 18:02:58 <thestringpuller>	smickles tried that
Feb 25 18:03:03 <thestringpuller>	it lost money
Feb 25 18:03:04 <Bugpowder_>	the collateral requirements will kill you though
Feb 25 18:03:12 <Bugpowder_>	I am shocked
Feb 25 18:03:25 <Bugpowder_>	he kept buying high and selling low
Feb 25 18:03:26 <thestringpuller>	SOE bot didnt do so well :/
Feb 25 18:03:45 <Bugpowder_>	or  buying high and not selling actually
Feb 25 18:03:59 <jurov>	after MPBPT will get psychologically entrenched, we'll see ;)
Feb 25 18:04:11 <jurov>	it may cease being a passthrough
Feb 25 18:04:14 <Namworld>	didn't do too well eh...
Feb 25 18:04:49 <jurov>	but i prefer to run it as is now
Feb 25 18:04:56 <Bugpowder_>	I think you need minimum 10,000 BTC nut to run an options bot effectively
Feb 25 18:05:12 <thestringpuller>	maybe 5,000 btc...
Feb 25 18:05:14 <mircea_popescu>	you need infinite capital (tm)
Feb 25 18:05:21 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Feb 25 18:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	srsly.
Feb 25 18:05:31 <thestringpuller>	ideally
Feb 25 18:06:00 <Namworld>	make a bot which keeps outbidding MPOE bot by 1 satoshi, and undercutting ask by 1 satoshi.
Feb 25 18:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 25 18:06:42 <Namworld>	guaranteed win on others' algorythm without any of the work!
Feb 25 18:06:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 97 @ 0.00075 = 0.0728 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:06:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5963 @ 0.00075 = 4.4723 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:06:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:07:43 <jurov>	Namworld, that bot still needs equal capital to most mpoe bondholders
Feb 25 18:08:19 <Namworld>	nah, not necessarily. Just make smaller amount both sides.
Feb 25 18:08:49 <jurov>	i had more devious idea... there are periods when mpoe bot is thinking and no offers are listed
Feb 25 18:09:08 <jurov>	was thinking to put some rotten apples there inbetween
Feb 25 18:09:28 <jurov>	but dunno how successfult would that be
Feb 25 18:09:43 <Namworld>	hmkay... probably not a lot considering the short timeframe
Feb 25 18:10:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 44 @ 0.00599 = 0.2636 BTC [-]
Feb 25 18:10:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 967 @ 0.006 = 5.802 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:11:14 <jurov>	actually i remembered i did the frontrunning on options few months ago but stopped
Feb 25 18:11:40 <jurov>	i had to tie the bitcoins on multiple calls/puts and wait for weeks for some order to come
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Feb 25 18:13:25 <jurov>	better to focus on frontrunning one or two most traded things
Feb 25 18:13:58 <jurov>	sigh...now if my bots weren't caught like deer in headlights on last spike
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Feb 25 18:15:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.3499 = 1.7495 BTC [-]
Feb 25 18:15:38 <jurov>	but let them stay KISS... can't optimize for everything anyway
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Feb 25 18:19:16 <Bugpowder_>	Namworld:  Acutally that bot needs MORE capital since it does not appear that the MPOE bot counts created but non-sold options against the total capital
Feb 25 18:19:25 <Bugpowder_>	which dilutes the returns
Feb 25 18:20:01 <jurov>	the collateral for unsold options returns to you
Feb 25 18:20:08 <Bugpowder_>	yeah
Feb 25 18:20:16 <Bugpowder_>	but its not available for other offers
Feb 25 18:20:27 <jurov>	?
Feb 25 18:20:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2547 @ 0.00075204 = 1.9154 BTC [-]
Feb 25 18:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4111 @ 0.00075113 = 3.0879 BTC [-]
Feb 25 18:20:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00609 = 0.0914 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:20:49 <jurov>	if you do SPLIT/MKFUT, you DO get collateral - exercises back
Feb 25 18:20:55 <jurov>	in the end of month
Feb 25 18:20:58 <Bugpowder_>	;;calc 1000*75*2
Feb 25 18:20:58 <gribble>	150000
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Feb 25 18:21:20 <Bugpowder_>	you need 150,000 BTC to offer up what the MPOE bot offers.
Feb 25 18:21:43 <Bugpowder_>	BEFORE anything gets sold
Feb 25 18:21:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.0061 = 0.366 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:24:07 <jurov>	it's 75 of them? not less? but you do have a point.
Feb 25 18:26:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3905 @ 0.00075 = 2.9288 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 18:30:37 <jurov>	;;calc 100185337*0.00075/2
Feb 25 18:30:37 <gribble>	37569.501375
Feb 25 18:32:22 <jurov>	100million s.mpoe could have sold for 30-40k  ... yea, nowhere near > 100k requried for collateral
Feb 25 18:33:30 <Bugpowder_>	It's a huge competitive advantage.
Feb 25 18:34:08 <Bugpowder_>	Other people basically are limited to placing bids and hoping someone shorts into them so they can then resell higher
Feb 25 18:36:17 <jurov>	there will be other options exchange soon, i'm interesting how they will solve this.
Feb 25 18:36:21 <jurov>	*interested
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Feb 25 18:42:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 39 @ 0.58 = 22.62 BTC [-]
Feb 25 18:42:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 12 @ 0.58 = 6.96 BTC [-]
Feb 25 18:43:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1843 @ 0.0062 = 11.4266 BTC [-]
Feb 25 18:43:42 <ThickAsThieves>	what crawled up this guy's ass? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145510.msg1559409#msg1559409
Feb 25 18:44:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 940 @ 0.0061 = 5.734 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:44:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0061 = 6.1 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:45:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00619 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:45:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0062 = 6.2 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:45:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 994 @ 0.00623 = 6.1926 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:45:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7000 @ 0.0063 = 44.1 BTC [+]
Feb 25 18:46:48 <Namworld>	Thick: He's saying "Blocking SD directly is the only known viable method of Bitcoin surviving this attack." and I think he's almost alone in that...
Feb 25 18:47:19 <pigeons>	i don't think he is
Feb 25 18:47:31 <Namworld>	Close to alone...
Feb 25 18:47:49 <pigeons>	i dont agree with him, i think fees need to go a lot higher
Feb 25 18:48:14 <Namworld>	Just doesn't fit Bitcoin's to start saying what is or what is not allowed.
Feb 25 18:48:35 <Namworld>	Only way to have a block against SD is if all miners simply exclude those transactions.
Feb 25 18:48:37 <iz>	pigeons: transactions relay to all nodes, regardless of the transaction fee
Feb 25 18:48:42 <ThickAsThieves>	fees will have to go higher if traffic slows
Feb 25 18:48:49 <ThickAsThieves>	right?
Feb 25 18:48:52 <iz>	the fees won't fix anything
Feb 25 18:49:02 <iz>	at least not with regard to SD
Feb 25 18:49:03 <ThickAsThieves>	if there's mass bitcoin adoption, people won't want to wait
Feb 25 18:49:16 <ThickAsThieves>	so paying fee is the only way to expedite
Feb 25 18:49:22 <pigeons>	iz: yes but if fees are higher people will be rewarded for their work, and spammers will be disincentivized
Feb 25 18:49:27 <ThickAsThieves>	and miners prioritize by value right?
Feb 25 18:49:30 <iz>	everyone relays transactions, even if they don't pickup the transaction and regardless of the fees
Feb 25 18:50:02 <iz>	pigeons: SD will still spam the network, regardless of the fees
Feb 25 18:50:20 <ThickAsThieves>	but the network seems to be doing fine, no?
Feb 25 18:50:24 <iz>	no
Feb 25 18:50:31 <iz>	have you seen how much the blockchain is growing?
Feb 25 18:50:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i have
Feb 25 18:50:49 <ThickAsThieves>	but all my transactions go thru quickly
Feb 25 18:50:54 <ThickAsThieves>	or, quick enough
Feb 25 18:51:01 <jurov>	oh not this again....
Feb 25 18:51:07 <iz>	basically we are recording all SD transaction history in the blockchain forever
Feb 25 18:51:10 <iz>	that everyone downloads
Feb 25 18:51:20 <ThickAsThieves>	theyd dont have to
Feb 25 18:51:30 <ThickAsThieves>	they can use web-based wallets
Feb 25 18:51:33 <Namworld>	iz: so what?
Feb 25 18:51:35 <jurov>	the blockchain is fine. I'll happily accept 1TB per month if that enables btc to be widely used
Feb 25 18:52:02 <iz>	transaction fees won't make a difference until we start hitting the max blocksize
Feb 25 18:52:03 <Bowjob>	if you didnt pay the tx fee, how long will it take?
Feb 25 18:52:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean really, the wait time to let qt sync was too long for the average person a while ago
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Feb 25 18:53:13 <iz>	i'm just saying it's not a non-problem, not that it's an insurmountable one
Feb 25 18:53:19 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Feb 25 18:53:25 <ThickAsThieves>	i wasnt trying to kick up the debate
Feb 25 18:54:14 <ThickAsThieves>	just amused that the guy thinks he can lean so far in one direction and not fall over
Feb 25 18:54:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1 @ 0.00196487 BTC [-]
Feb 25 18:57:16 <Ukto>	evening Namworld
Feb 25 18:57:57 <Ukto>	somehow I didnt see you talking earlier. hehe
Feb 25 19:01:40 <Namworld>	eh
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Feb 25 19:09:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 910 @ 0.0022 = 2.002 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 19:12:54 <dub>	jurov: how many nodes will be running under a +1tb/month scenario?
Feb 25 19:13:20 <jurov>	any business with some employees can afford that
Feb 25 19:13:30 <dub>	jurov: how much confidence will people have in bitcoin if there are only 7 nodes
Feb 25 19:13:54 <jurov>	let's say it will happen in 2 years
Feb 25 19:14:03 <jurov>	there will be 10TB hard drives
Feb 25 19:14:21 <jurov>	for the same prices as 2Tb today
Feb 25 19:15:07 <dub>	the reality is SD exploits a weakness in bitcoin
Feb 25 19:15:09 <jurov>	don't tell me only 7 nodes can afford buying one harddrive per year
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Feb 25 19:15:41 <iz>	how many would care enough to?
Feb 25 19:15:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 3 @ 0.0022 = 0.0066 BTC [+]
Feb 25 19:16:02 <iz>	maybe in 2 years there is something else that doesn't have the same flaws being actively exploited to the detriment of everyone else..
Feb 25 19:16:07 <jurov>	anyone who wants to accept transactions
Feb 25 19:16:13 <dub>	it spreads teh cost of its spam attack to idiots already willing to throw money away
Feb 25 19:16:33 <dub>	what SD does can be achieved in a scalable way easily
Feb 25 19:16:45 <iz>	just because the problem can be solved by stupidly throwing money at it, doesn't mean it's not a problem that could have a more elegant solution
Feb 25 19:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 498 @ 0.00196487 = 0.9785 BTC [-]
Feb 25 19:16:50 <maximian>	SD just amplifies that weakness. and if it wasn't SD it'd be someone else. The problem has to be solved, and it can't be solved by banning. It's a fundamental architectural problem.
Feb 25 19:16:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 457 @ 0.00196488 = 0.898 BTC [+]
Feb 25 19:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 45 @ 0.001965 = 0.0884 BTC [+]
Feb 25 19:17:19 <dub>	maximian: the weakness was always there, the cost for one person to attack was prohibitive, SD works aroudn that
Feb 25 19:17:35 <jurov>	so maybe you should stop alienating evoorhees and make that easier for him to do that way?
Feb 25 19:17:46 <maximian>	because of zero confs?
Feb 25 19:18:04 <dub>	jurov: wat
Feb 25 19:18:19 <jurov>	and my 2cents... if bitcoin will be centralized, it will not be because of blocksize, but because of asics
Feb 25 19:19:23 <dub>	my 2c.. I could run a bitcoin node on 1990's hardware before SD
Feb 25 19:19:32 <jurov>	as asicminer handily proved
Feb 25 19:19:45 <dub>	how long before we can't run one on 2012 hardware?
Feb 25 19:19:50 <iz>	yeah, everyone is a node, even if they aren't mining
Feb 25 19:20:21 <iz>	this is a problem with bitcoin p2p, not really just with bitcoin mining
Feb 25 19:21:13 <jurov>	miners' pipe dreams... bitcoins should be forever limited to 7tx/second. because obviously having $50 tx fees will give power to teh people
Feb 25 19:21:17 <dub>	and btw the '90s hardware problem is processing not disk
Feb 25 19:22:18 <jurov>	99% people will not ever see a bitcoin in whole life, but they will be able to run full node, that's the ideal
Feb 25 19:22:43 <dub>	i have no idea what you just said
Feb 25 19:23:19 <jurov>	i'll try again. how many businesses own a car?
Feb 25 19:24:15 <jurov>	why wouldn't they pay much less for a full node that can deal with 1TB/month to  enable them access to bitcoin system?
Feb 25 19:24:34 <iz>	lol
Feb 25 19:24:45 <iz>	you failed on that try
Feb 25 19:24:58 <jurov>	why not?
Feb 25 19:25:12 <dub>	typically I would say that a high end server is more expensive for a business than a car
Feb 25 19:25:29 <OneMiner>	7tx/sec = 604,800/day. Not nearly enough.
Feb 25 19:25:44 <iz>	jurov: because credit card payment processing is cheaper than that.
Feb 25 19:26:13 <jurov>	1. that does not need hig end server
Feb 25 19:26:25 <jurov>	2. credit cards are *expensive* for merchants
Feb 25 19:26:47 <iz>	why would a business pay more for bitcoin processing, when they could just do "expensive" credit card processing that is accepted by way more clients?
Feb 25 19:27:20 <jurov>	so they shouldn't use bitcoin, you say?
Feb 25 19:27:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7168 @ 0.00075677 = 5.4245 BTC [+]
Feb 25 19:27:39 <jurov>	with 604,800 txs/day they will not, indeed
Feb 25 19:27:42 <iz>	you're basically trying to say that credit card processing is too expensive out of one side of your mouth, while saying any business that wants to use bitcoin should be have plenty of money to blow
Feb 25 19:27:52 <jurov>	only banks and govts will use bitcoin in the end
Feb 25 19:28:11 <iz>	anyway.. i'm gonna head home now.. peace all
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Feb 25 19:28:42 <dub>	jurov: I don;t hink anyone is arguing against that, if adoption is successful
Feb 25 19:28:50 <dub>	don't think*
Feb 25 19:28:54 <jurov>	if you insist accepting 1TB/mon means blowing tons of money....
Feb 25 19:28:58 <jurov>	be it so
Feb 25 19:29:03 <jurov>	i can do it chepaer
Feb 25 19:29:11 <jurov>	peace
Feb 25 19:29:47 <OneMiner>	More transactions is better than less. In the future we won't have 2012 hardware, we'll have future hardware.
Feb 25 19:29:56 <dub>	do you know how much 1TB costs businesses?
Feb 25 19:30:09 <dub>	its a LOT more than it costs you
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Feb 25 19:30:37 <Bowjob>	the tx is still unconfirmed wtf
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Feb 25 19:30:57 <jurov>	if they have to back the terabyte up, then yeah
Feb 25 19:31:08 <dub>	talk to a SAN guy
Feb 25 19:31:27 <Bowjob>	http://blockchain.info/tx-index/56416802/e70e54774c58101e7a6de4bcc5a04a9f3091cee4022965aebc264a705cb3c732
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Feb 25 19:31:32 <dub>	proper storage is not cheap
Feb 25 19:31:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.0841 = 0.841 BTC [-]
Feb 25 19:31:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 20 @ 0.0841 = 1.682 BTC [-]
Feb 25 19:32:19 <jurov>	blockchain doesn't need to be stored properly. you just buy commoditized server with it preinstalled and backup only the wallet. it breaks? buy another one
Feb 25 19:32:41 <jurov>	or copy it from guy next door
Feb 25 19:32:54 <dub>	businesses don't do that
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Feb 25 19:33:18 <jurov>	okay, you say so
Feb 25 19:33:39 <jurov>	i was admin too, saw how things are done
Feb 25 19:33:50 <jurov>	just in other part of the world
Feb 25 19:34:10 <OneMiner>	Ya, the blockchain isn't going to be lost for long if it is lost. I don't think they'd need anything fancy for it.
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Feb 25 19:36:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [-]
Feb 25 19:36:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 26 @ 0.393 = 10.218 BTC [+]
Feb 25 19:36:27 <dub>	the issue is that you need to get critical mass before all the businesses are going to look after the network for you
Feb 25 19:36:59 <dub>	if you make it prohibitive for Joe Asshat to do it for you until then, then you never get there
Feb 25 19:37:11 <jurov>	how you want to get critical mass when it can't handle even one casino???
Feb 25 19:37:36 <dub>	you get that casino to keep its own database
Feb 25 19:37:45 <jurov>	errr...it can handle it finely, just some peeps fear it irrationally
Feb 25 19:37:50 <dub>	instead of using yours that isn't designed for that
Feb 25 19:37:55 <iz>	casinos usually use chips, and don't have their clients bet using credit card payments
Feb 25 19:37:59 <OneMiner>	It's how that casino is doing it's business. You don't go up and change money after every bet when you are in a casino, do you?
Feb 25 19:38:17 <dub>	OneMiner: good analogy
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Feb 25 19:38:34 *	OneMiner wins!
Feb 25 19:38:46 <jurov>	now imagine million supermarkers/car dealers/etc. in the place of that casino]
Feb 25 19:39:08 <dub>	imagine a supermarket where you can only pay for one item at a time
Feb 25 19:39:09 <jurov>	they do need to charge money every time
Feb 25 19:39:51 <iz>	one item at a time though?
Feb 25 19:39:52 <mircea_popescu>	i can't believe this debate still exists.
Feb 25 19:40:06 <dub>	I don't think its going away
Feb 25 19:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	the jesuscrazy people were defeated already. forget about it.
Feb 25 19:40:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC [+]
Feb 25 19:40:09 <OneMiner>	jurov With SD a single person can place many bets with a small amount of coins. Each bet = two transactions. If it was a supermarket, they'd have to be making a seperate transaction for each product, overcharging you by a little and sending you a satoshi back. THEN it would be similar.
Feb 25 19:40:12 <dub>	either SD changes or bitcoin does
Feb 25 19:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	it's like arguing the peace of westfalia.
Feb 25 19:41:02 <jurov>	you will kill bitcoin together with sd, then. at least prevent the mass adoption you are dreaming about.
Feb 25 19:41:31 <dub>	equally you will kill it if nobody can run a node
Feb 25 19:41:36 <OneMiner>	Not at all! I'd argue that the network is handling it very well.
Feb 25 19:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	look! it's really simple! bitcoin was designed to do 1mb blocks. if it can't do 1mb blocks it sucks, dies, we move to solidcoin.
Feb 25 19:41:59 <iz>	someone just needs to make a better version of SD that works in harmony with bitcoin
Feb 25 19:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	if it can do 1mb blocks and they get filled, tx fees increase
Feb 25 19:42:19 <jurov>	it was not designed to do 1mb blocks. it was just some limit to try with
Feb 25 19:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 25 19:42:31 <mircea_popescu>	if it can't do EVEN THAT then forget it.
Feb 25 19:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	iz no.
Feb 25 19:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin needs to be able to stfu and suck this cock.
Feb 25 19:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	suck it well, ask for seconds.
Feb 25 19:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	then maybe it gets seconds.
Feb 25 19:43:22 <jurov>	iz, you're going to cripple the whole system just because of political reason, don't you see that?
Feb 25 19:43:37 <dub>	its not political its technical
Feb 25 19:43:49 <dub>	SD does not scale
Feb 25 19:43:49 <iz>	jurov: how would my proposal of creating a better version of SD going to cripple the whole system?
Feb 25 19:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Feb 25 19:44:06 <iz>	what do you even think would "cripple the whole system"?
Feb 25 19:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	iz you do not get to tell people how to use it.
Feb 25 19:44:12 <ThickAsThieves>	because it doesnt stop someone else from making the same problem in a new way
Feb 25 19:44:22 <mircea_popescu>	why is this so difficult to grasp ?
Feb 25 19:44:25 <dub>	iz: making rules, you know like the evil state
Feb 25 19:44:32 <iz>	i'm not telling people how to use it, i just suggested making a better alternative that people could choose to use
Feb 25 19:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	so make it.
Feb 25 19:44:42 <iz>	the problem is that there isn't an alternative
Feb 25 19:44:43 <dub>	it breaks teh very libertarianality of bitcoin!!!!
Feb 25 19:44:43 <jurov>	iz, preventing bitcoin to actually accept enough transactions to be really used
Feb 25 19:44:45 <OneMiner>	SD is doing it wrong. But it's up to miners to increase the TX fee and price them out of business. But it's democratic. Each miner will have to choose to allow 0.0005BTC fees or not.
Feb 25 19:45:04 <OneMiner>	I've set my fee one unit higher personally.
Feb 25 19:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner except it's already been argued to death.
Feb 25 19:45:22 <mircea_popescu>	as it is, if miners tried it sd would just make its own miner drive the other miners out of business.
Feb 25 19:45:29 <jurov>	if it was anything other "more useful" that SD would you accept raising the limit?
Feb 25 19:45:37 <OneMiner>	That'll continue, it's up to them.
Feb 25 19:45:39 <jurov>	if yes, then it is political indeed
Feb 25 19:45:46 <ThickAsThieves>	make an alt coin for every bulky service
Feb 25 19:46:26 <iz>	mircea_popescu: i'm still afraid of the legal implications of running a gambling business
Feb 25 19:46:29 <jcpham>	if cgminer had a "no sd" flag, i'd set it
Feb 25 19:46:31 <ThickAsThieves>	if cryptocurrency is widely adopted, it's probly what will happen anyway
Feb 25 19:46:35 <iz>	that's why i'm not doing it
Feb 25 19:46:37 <jcpham>	otherwise my pools include sd blocks
Feb 25 19:46:41 <ThickAsThieves>	alt coin for every gov
Feb 25 19:46:43 <jcpham>	faik
Feb 25 19:46:46 <iz>	but SD is braindead simple to make a clone of
Feb 25 19:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Feb 25 19:46:58 <iz>	it's just rolling dice
Feb 25 19:47:04 <OneMiner>	jcpham do you pool mine?
Feb 25 19:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	i guess every coder has to be humiliated individually to get it.
Feb 25 19:47:11 <jcpham>	yes
Feb 25 19:47:32 <OneMiner>	jcpham Then the best you can do is mine in a pool that blocks those transactions.
Feb 25 19:47:41 <jcpham>	i mine at hashpower.com
Feb 25 19:47:45 <jcpham>	you can lease me
Feb 25 19:48:20 <OneMiner>	And it's not a scalpel, it's a grenade. You'd block all TXs with SDs fee or lower.
Feb 25 19:48:25 <jcpham>	see what i did there
Feb 25 19:48:35 <OneMiner>	jcpham I was too. Now I'm on p2pool.
Feb 25 19:48:51 <OneMiner>	I can make my own choices now. I'm independent. :)
Feb 25 19:49:17 <jcpham>	i think i just mined a bajillion freicon last week
Feb 25 19:49:29 <jcpham>	*freicoin
Feb 25 19:49:42 <Bowjob>	i got like 1500 friecoin.. whats the exchange rate now
Feb 25 19:49:47 <OneMiner>	haha, I've been trying to get merged mining going with p2pool. I think I messed it up somehow. :(
Feb 25 19:49:49 <jcpham>	no clue
Feb 25 19:49:58 <jcpham>	i solo mined.....
Feb 25 19:50:03 <jcpham>	36 blocks/sec
Feb 25 19:50:07 <jcpham>	i swear
Feb 25 19:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00075677 = 10.065 BTC [+]
Feb 25 19:50:36 <Guest36719>	iz : no miner has the initiative not to accept 1 satoshi fee tx
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Feb 25 19:50:57 <kakobreklaa>	except for the stupid ones
Feb 25 19:51:14 <jcpham>	i mine for profit...whoever pays the most
Feb 25 19:52:04 <dub>	you just stick your mining cock in any hole that comes along
Feb 25 19:52:06 <Bowjob>	if you dont pay the tx fee.. how long will it take to confirm?
Feb 25 19:52:10 <dub>	you don't decide what tx get through
Feb 25 19:52:42 <kakobreklaa>	moving old coins is free
Feb 25 19:52:59 <Bowjob>	e70e54774c58101e7a6de4bcc5a04a9f3091cee4022965aebc264a705cb3c732
Feb 25 19:53:00 <OneMiner>	Bowjob If my miner was the only one in the world, it wouldn't go through.
Feb 25 19:53:16 <Bowjob>	the guy didnt put a tx. -_- still waiting for it to confirm
Feb 25 19:53:32 <OneMiner>	How cheap.... The fee is almost nothing.
Feb 25 19:54:06 <Bowjob>	I clicked on "Relayed by IP"..
Feb 25 19:54:17 <Bowjob>	a bunch of ips appeared.. is taht a good thing orr..
Feb 25 19:54:50 <kakobreklaa>	its ok
Feb 25 19:54:54 <OneMiner>	Means that those nodes broadcasted the TX.
Feb 25 19:54:58 <kakobreklaa>	are you making your first btc tx?
Feb 25 19:55:05 <OneMiner>	The network has seen it.
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Feb 25 20:15:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4035 @ 0.00075 = 3.0263 BTC [+]
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Feb 25 20:22:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [+]
Feb 25 20:23:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.635 = 8.89 BTC [-]
Feb 25 20:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 25 20:25:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.25402, Best ask: 30.35001, Bid-ask spread: 0.09599, Last trade: 30.38000, 24 hour volume: 26226.94641198, 24 hour low: 29.60000, 24 hour high: 30.40000, 24 hour vwap: 30.10472
Feb 25 20:32:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 35 @ 1 = 35 BTC [+]
Feb 25 20:37:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 750 @ 0.34699613 = 260.2471 BTC [-]
Feb 25 20:37:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 1000 @ 0.29393728 = 293.9373 BTC
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Feb 25 21:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00075113 = 1.8778 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 21:30:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.3499 = 8.7475 BTC [-]
Feb 25 21:31:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.33311 = 8.3278 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 21:32:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+]
Feb 25 21:32:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.3331 = 1.9986 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 21:39:36 <mircea_popescu>	whoa less than 2!
Feb 25 21:40:17 <kakobreklaa>	the what?
Feb 25 21:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	Guest00001
Feb 25 21:41:26 <swhitt>	$36k payout
Feb 25 21:41:32 <mircea_popescu>	hit it!
Feb 25 21:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	there's kinda insufficient drama, if this keeps up bitcoin will tank
Feb 25 21:43:25 <swhitt>	manufacture some
Feb 25 21:43:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 15.9 = 31.8 BTC [+]
Feb 25 21:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	nah it'd be too easy
Feb 25 21:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.par-anoia.net/releases2013.html
Feb 25 21:47:12 <swhitt>	has there ever been a >2 part of the chain orphaned?
Feb 25 21:49:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 16 BTC [+]
Feb 25 21:50:18 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure
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Feb 25 21:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	50+ was the record iirc
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Feb 25 22:20:07 <ThickAsThieves>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-2.html#post16043
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Feb 25 22:24:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i suppose that makes the bitbet pretty much resolved...
Feb 25 22:24:19 <mircea_popescu>	The simple fact of the matter is there hasn't been any solid updates to offer.
Feb 25 22:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	myeah
Feb 25 22:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	a well.
Feb 25 22:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	"As I've written in previous posts, we are dealing with such an accelerated time scale that all of these facilities simply aren't used to dealing with."
Feb 25 22:24:59 <mircea_popescu>	le lol.
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Feb 25 22:25:44 <ThickAsThieves>	that's american industry for you i guess
Feb 25 22:25:57 <ThickAsThieves>	shoulda made em in china
Feb 25 22:26:30 <mircea_popescu>	We expect at least some of the chips to be on their way to Chicago by Tuesday, where they will be mounted and sent out to our engineers and KC for testing and final MCU programming.
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Feb 25 22:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	yup, he's not making march 1st.
Feb 25 22:27:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm no engineer, but it sounds so ghetto to be wasting 1000 chips to do a macguyver test
Feb 25 22:27:05 <mircea_popescu>	Right now, I'm planning on a week from Friday to be the day
Feb 25 22:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	way ghetto.
Feb 25 22:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	this is never delivering.
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Feb 25 22:28:02 <pigeons>	never we think they'll next tuesday, always we think they'll be on the way to another step by next tuesday
Feb 25 22:28:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.0763 BTC [-]
Feb 25 22:28:27 <mircea_popescu>	well, as it turns out that 1500 btc on bitbet will be the most btc anyone makes out of bfl
Feb 25 22:28:34 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Feb 25 22:28:37 <Bowjob>	hahah
Feb 25 22:28:44 <Bowjob>	mp have you actually bet on it?
Feb 25 22:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 25 22:28:49 <ThickAsThieves>	although, what if he's baiting the bet
Feb 25 22:28:56 <Bowjob>	you're the 200 BTC no?
Feb 25 22:28:57 <ThickAsThieves>	unlikely
Feb 25 22:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves it's closed already, so what can it do ?
Feb 25 22:29:03 <ThickAsThieves>	but a big mess if he did
Feb 25 22:29:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i meant if it resolved
Feb 25 22:29:10 <Bowjob>	theres this 500 BTC bet on yes
Feb 25 22:29:16 <Bowjob>	that hurts like a bitch
Feb 25 22:29:18 <ThickAsThieves>	before the 1st
Feb 25 22:30:31 <Bowjob>	josh could have come clean and tell us he couldnt ship by 1st
Feb 25 22:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	16-02-13 01:27	No
Feb 25 22:30:38 <Bowjob>	but instead he said "its close"
Feb 25 22:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	i like that string of no
Feb 25 22:30:51 <mircea_popescu>	like 20+ bets lol
Feb 25 22:31:40 <ThickAsThieves>	a 50btc bet at 710 weight
Feb 25 22:31:56 <ThickAsThieves>	does that even make any profit?
Feb 25 22:32:46 <mircea_popescu>	you always make a profit.
Feb 25 22:32:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Feb 25 22:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 710 * 50 / 60000000 * 800
Feb 25 22:33:15 <gribble>	0.473333333333
Feb 25 22:33:27 <Bowjob>	theres only like 3 big YES votes on the side
Feb 25 22:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	aaactually... i think you're right, he owes .5 to the house and makes .473
Feb 25 22:33:32 <Bowjob>	500, 100, and 115
Feb 25 22:33:33 <mircea_popescu>	net loss
Feb 25 22:33:45 <ThickAsThieves>	sad
Feb 25 22:34:17 <Bowjob>	was the 50 btc you?
Feb 25 22:34:30 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Feb 25 22:34:36 <ThickAsThieves>	i didnt bet in that one
Feb 25 22:34:43 <Bowjob>	so they lose money on it.. even if they won?
Feb 25 22:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	yeah like 0.03 btc
Feb 25 22:35:58 <ThickAsThieves>	the huge bets just felt like something fishy was going on
Feb 25 22:36:01 <ThickAsThieves>	so i stayed out of it
Feb 25 22:36:09 <Bowjob>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-2.html#post16043
Feb 25 22:36:14 <mircea_popescu>	only fair, bets on the 21st that bfl won't deliver by 1st
Feb 25 22:36:15 <Bowjob>	delicious update delay again
Feb 25 22:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob at least they beat all other vendors.
Feb 25 22:36:40 <Bowjob>	huh
Feb 25 22:36:41 <Bowjob>	how
Feb 25 22:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	also "everyone knows" bfl is worth more than mpex
Feb 25 22:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob : /sarcasm
Feb 25 22:36:53 <Bowjob>	lol
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Feb 25 22:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	that dude was such a lolcow i'll be sad to see him go
Feb 25 22:37:33 <Bowjob>	shits about to hit the fan.. bfl customers who used to defend josh are getting pissed
Feb 25 22:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	then again this is bitcoin, he'll prolly be making status updates in like... may.
Feb 25 22:37:39 <Bowjob>	if they werent already
Feb 25 22:37:44 <ThickAsThieves>	mp wanted drama
Feb 25 22:37:58 <Bowjob>	id have to ask josh to fuck up on this one, till my avalon arrives
Feb 25 22:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	ya, ty bitcoin goddess, satisfactory dramadelivery.
Feb 25 22:38:00 <ThickAsThieves>	does bfl allow refunds?
Feb 25 22:38:04 <Bowjob>	looks like i wont have to lol
Feb 25 22:38:09 <Bowjob>	yeah, they do
Feb 25 22:38:16 <ThickAsThieves>	ouch
Feb 25 22:38:19 <Bowjob>	but people who ordered way back then
Feb 25 22:38:26 <Bowjob>	would not get their btc back
Feb 25 22:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	they only allow refunds after jan 1st.
Feb 25 22:38:38 <Bowjob>	oh even worse lol
Feb 25 22:38:43 <Bowjob>	its like a stop loss order..
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Feb 25 22:38:47 <ThickAsThieves>	so if you ordered in 2013 you can get your money back
Feb 25 22:38:53 <mircea_popescu>	well ya, you sent 500 btc in october, you get 200 btc back today.
Feb 25 22:38:58 <ThickAsThieves>	ick
Feb 25 22:39:02 <Bowjob>	^ 300 btc for bfl free
Feb 25 22:39:03 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 25 22:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	nice biz huh.
Feb 25 22:39:12 <kakobreklaa>	those low-weight no-ers on BFL bet will be pissed.
Feb 25 22:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa they thought they were smart :D
Feb 25 22:39:40 <Bowjob>	its better to take a refund and take the loss.. before btc rallies up again
Feb 25 22:39:52 <Bowjob>	rather than go all or nothing
Feb 25 22:40:03 <Bowjob>	but they prolly wont do it.
Feb 25 22:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob nobody sensible has any money left with them anyway
Feb 25 22:40:14 <ThickAsThieves>	this is such a huge idiot trap
Feb 25 22:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	a few hardocre believers aka idiots, who got burned in any scam available.
Feb 25 22:40:20 <mircea_popescu>	starting with p[irate.
Feb 25 22:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	some people just aren't made to handle money is all.
Feb 25 22:40:30 <Bowjob>	i dodged all bullets so far lol
Feb 25 22:40:31 <ThickAsThieves>	like smarter people will get refunds
Feb 25 22:40:43 <ThickAsThieves>	and then BFL will sell to people
Feb 25 22:40:48 <ThickAsThieves>	and theyll all be late to the party
Feb 25 22:40:57 <ThickAsThieves>	making .0003 btc/day
Feb 25 22:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves actually asic is only mining what, 4-5 th ?
Feb 25 22:41:23 <ThickAsThieves>	true
Feb 25 22:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	and avalon is still in limboland
Feb 25 22:41:28 <Namworld>	.0003 BTC might be a bit exaggerated... but yeah
Feb 25 22:41:30 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer is pretty behind it seems
Feb 25 22:41:40 <ThickAsThieves>	they said 12TH by the 1st i thought
Feb 25 22:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	everyone's behind everyone else, this is like the asic olympics
Feb 25 22:41:54 <kakobreklaa>	lol
Feb 25 22:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	i tell you, if asics were girls i'd be damned worried
Feb 25 22:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	everyone's late.
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Feb 25 22:42:24 <mod6>	haha
Feb 25 22:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	"dude, i took my girlfriends to this party
Feb 25 22:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	and now three weeks later everyone's late
Feb 25 22:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno what we did there"
Feb 25 22:43:22 <mod6>	*grin*
Feb 25 22:43:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder how many people are submitting return requests tonight
Feb 25 22:44:39 <kakobreklaa>	assbot would say, they are more fucked than whores at closin time
Feb 25 22:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 25 22:45:13 <Bowjob>	josh says 1 week..(1 month) for this to be done
Feb 25 22:45:51 <dub>	do we know if people who won the BFL order number lottery have been contacted?
Feb 25 22:46:48 <dub>	ie, those that will get a 1st round unit
Feb 25 22:46:50 <ThickAsThieves>	doubtful, i think the first sign things are shipping is when they ask for people to send their trade-ins
Feb 25 22:47:28 <ThickAsThieves>	which is absent from this update
Feb 25 22:49:28 <dub>	cool, I guess there is still a chance of sprinkles on this shit sandwich
Feb 25 22:50:23 <Bowjob>	I managed to sell 50k XRP for 1 BTC
Feb 25 22:50:35 <dub>	wat is xrp
Feb 25 22:50:43 <Bowjob>	I don't know if I did something smart or stupid
Feb 25 22:50:51 <Bowjob>	ripple credits
Feb 25 22:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8355 @ 0.00075113 = 6.2757 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 22:53:21 <Namworld>	There's 100 billion XRP created right off the bat
Feb 25 22:53:32 <dub>	at this point suppose knowing what ripple is might help
Feb 25 22:53:33 <Namworld>	Making XRP worth 2,000,000 BTC at that price
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Feb 25 22:53:41 <Namworld>	So you sold them for a LOT
Feb 25 22:53:56 <Namworld>	XRP is super easily available
Feb 25 22:54:37 <ThickAsThieves>	is xrp unlimited?
Feb 25 22:54:53 <ThickAsThieves>	or just that 100bil only?
Feb 25 22:55:17 <Bowjob>	100 bill, as money get sent around theres a small fee
Feb 25 22:55:24 <Bowjob>	less than a cent
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Feb 25 22:57:56 <Namworld>	I love how my ripple address ends by Sir N
Feb 25 23:03:14 <ThickAsThieves>	another lol for you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146826.msg1558001#msg1558001
Feb 25 23:03:23 <ThickAsThieves>	"Ill pay you 1BTC to buy the goldbar so I dont lose it"
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Feb 25 23:05:24 <Namworld>	Hmm, I'll buy 10 million XRP for a BTC. Anyone? =P
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Feb 25 23:06:17 <Bowjob>	nam ill buy 50k xrp for .2 btc
Feb 25 23:06:21 <Bowjob>	deal? :p
Feb 25 23:08:05 <Namworld>	nay =/
Feb 25 23:08:18 <Namworld>	looks like it's overpriced right now
Feb 25 23:08:27 <Namworld>	I'll sell and wait to buy back
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Feb 25 23:08:56 <Namworld>	What's your ripple name?
Feb 25 23:10:05 <Bowjob>	rwAUfq4CjYut43iY8vut3KwujqFSGR1j5o
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Feb 25 23:10:09 <Bowjob>	ninjafruit
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Feb 25 23:10:49 <Bowjob>	im still trying to figure out how this thing works
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Feb 25 23:11:00 <Bowjob>	how do I view the ordebook
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Feb 25 23:13:24 <Namworld>	yeah, I don't understand that either
Feb 25 23:13:45 <Bowjob>	i'll just sit it out. i have 50k left
Feb 25 23:13:51 <Bowjob>	lets see if this goes somewhere
Feb 25 23:14:13 <Bowjob>	I want to see 1 XRP = 1 dollar
Feb 25 23:15:56 <Namworld>	good luck... would need market cap to reach 100 billion
Feb 25 23:16:23 <grubles>	selling 50k ripples
Feb 25 23:17:16 <ThickAsThieves>	seems to be a firm ceiling at 30.40 at mtgox
Feb 25 23:17:18 <Namworld>	Ok, I don't know how it works at all...
Feb 25 23:17:30 <Namworld>	How do we get other currencies?
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Feb 25 23:22:23 <Bowjob>	well the rocket is simply refueling
Feb 25 23:22:27 <Bowjob>	just wait
Feb 25 23:22:31 <Namworld>	I think I get it...
Feb 25 23:22:35 <ThickAsThieves>	arent ripples just IOUs mixed with otc ratings?
Feb 25 23:22:48 <ThickAsThieves>	or something
Feb 25 23:22:50 <Namworld>	People must assign trust to "gateways" which I think are like exchangers
Feb 25 23:23:28 <Namworld>	and these gateways assign currencies like USD/BTC/AUD/GBP/etc to users... and they can send it around if they trust the gateway...
Feb 25 23:23:44 <ThickAsThieves>	and people will treat it like Facebook Likes
Feb 25 23:23:50 <ThickAsThieves>	trust me and i'll trust you back
Feb 25 23:23:59 <Namworld>	So one has to deposit funds to a gateway to deposit it and withdraw from a gateway.
Feb 25 23:24:30 <Namworld>	I don't think it works like that Thick...
Feb 25 23:24:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 16.9 BTC [+]
Feb 25 23:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5132 @ 0.00075677 = 3.8837 BTC [+]
Feb 25 23:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4468 @ 0.00076936 = 3.4375 BTC [+]
Feb 25 23:25:25 <Bowjob>	Holee schitt
Feb 25 23:25:29 <Bowjob>	Havelockkkkkkkk
Feb 25 23:26:23 <Bowjob>	I remember when it was 12 BTCs
Feb 25 23:26:23 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not sure how it works either, i just saw some people talking about that as one of the weaknesses
Feb 25 23:26:36 <Bowjob>	and they released at 4.6 BTC per share
Feb 25 23:26:39 <Bowjob>	jezzus
Feb 25 23:30:55 <Namworld>	aye
Feb 25 23:31:10 <Namworld>	Well BitPride/Ziggap going fast it seems =/
Feb 25 23:31:40 <dub>	is ripple solidcoin 3?
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Feb 25 23:32:04 <Namworld>	ripple isn't supposed to be a currency you trade for money
Feb 25 23:32:29 <Namworld>	they're supposed to be preminted token used to create orders in the system upon which they're destroyed.
Feb 25 23:32:49 <Namworld>	People are supposed to trade in a peer to peer fashion other currencies, like BTC/USD or stuff...
Feb 25 23:33:01 <Namworld>	or something like that I think
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Feb 25 23:34:01 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/197h9g/namecheap_considering_bitcoin/
Feb 25 23:34:15 <ThickAsThieves>	top comment says they are gonna do it
Feb 25 23:34:40 <Namworld>	Good for them
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Feb 25 23:36:04 <BitHub>	i'm down for the AUD end
Feb 25 23:38:11 <BitHub>	i was thinking about that other day Nam, i was even offering people access to the australian market in exchange for access to their countries market
Feb 25 23:38:19 <BitHub>	need to build a very trusted network
Feb 25 23:38:38 <BitHub>	while also taken care of the accountanting, tax side
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Feb 25 23:39:15 <BitHub>	i'll also be working on peso next year, but doing AUD market for now.
Feb 25 23:39:26 <Ukto>	which peso?
Feb 25 23:39:30 <Ukto>	there are like 20 diff kinds
Feb 25 23:39:31 <BitHub>	;)
Feb 25 23:39:34 <Ukto>	columbian?
Feb 25 23:39:35 <Ukto>	:P
Feb 25 23:39:43 <BitHub>	why do you think i said peso hehe
Feb 25 23:39:55 <BitHub>	of course i will share that infomation later on :)
Feb 25 23:43:15 <BitHub>	i dislike this whole cashing back out for fiat tho
Feb 25 23:43:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
Feb 25 23:44:48 <BitHub>	nothing personal, just complicated things.
Feb 25 23:44:54 <BitHub>	s
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Feb 25 23:46:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1875 @ 0.0061 = 11.4375 BTC [-]
Feb 25 23:46:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3000 @ 0.006 = 18 BTC [-]
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Feb 25 23:49:22 <dub>	http://i.imgur.com/CaiOJXo.png wtf is this? 90k btc for 11k xrp?
Feb 25 23:50:20 <Bowjob>	Hey I'll take that offer
Feb 25 23:50:34 <Bowjob>	is that a fat finger or??
Feb 25 23:51:39 <Namworld>	Do you trust the guy? No? Then don't accept the trade...
Feb 25 23:51:59 <Namworld>	Ripple doesn't hold any currency, the user does.
Feb 25 23:52:10 <Namworld>	I think it's supposed to be working with Gateways.
Feb 25 23:53:31 <Namworld>	Trusted gateways give you money on Ripple. You trust the gateway. The gateway give funds to the guy, who sells it to you. You withdraw at the gateway. Or from the guy if it's not issued by a gateway and you trust the person.
Feb 25 23:53:50 <Bowjob>	whats a gateway
Feb 25 23:53:53 <Namworld>	I think it works basically with users issue BTC/USD/etc themselves
Feb 25 23:54:05 <Namworld>	and you trust money issued by certain users
Feb 25 23:54:14 <Namworld>	A gateway would be a trust user
Feb 25 23:54:30 <BitHub>	aka bitcoin agent
Feb 25 23:54:38 <BitHub>	broker
Feb 25 23:54:41 <BitHub>	etc
Feb 25 23:54:42 <Namworld>	ask Joel Katz on the forum, or something like that. Or look for it on the forum. I don't know much about how Ripple works exactly.
Feb 25 23:55:43 <Namworld>	Basically the thing is way too complicated for me to even want to mess around with it.
Feb 25 23:55:59 <Bowjob>	bitcoin is already confusing to the general public
Feb 25 23:56:08 <Bowjob>	now theres XRPs too
Feb 25 23:56:09 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 25 23:56:13 <Namworld>	I need to build a network of contact to find trade offers and have to find gateways I trust as a source to accept funds
Feb 25 23:56:49 <Namworld>	not that the concept is bad... but building itthe network from the grounds up would be considerable work...
Feb 25 23:56:52 <BitHub>	gateways taken offers at market price?
Feb 25 23:57:00 <BitHub>	what country are you in nam?
Feb 25 23:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00076936 = 2.6543 BTC [+]
Feb 25 23:58:42 <Namworld>	Canada
Feb 25 23:59:47 <BitHub>	hmm
Feb 26 00:01:38 <BitHub>	are you buying and selling btc within canada atm?
Feb 26 00:02:19 <Namworld>	On occasions, yes
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Feb 26 00:05:53 <Namworld>	mircea_popescu: sorry to be dicking around like that and asking already for a withdrawal just after depositing, but my funds are once again needed elsewhere.
Feb 26 00:06:36 <Namworld>	Sheesh, with all the BitVPS shares, S.DICE and other stuff I have, I don't have much capital laying around
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Feb 26 00:15:23 <Namworld>	Also I placed 5120 S.DICE-PT for sal at 0.0062 if someone wanted to load up before the dividend.
Feb 26 00:16:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 16.95 BTC [+]
Feb 26 00:18:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.675 = 4.05 BTC [+]
Feb 26 00:18:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.675 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Feb 26 00:19:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 17 BTC [+]
Feb 26 00:21:05 <Bowjob>	Just wtf is going on at Havelock lol
Feb 26 00:21:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc;stats
Feb 26 00:21:31 <gribble>	Error: "bc;stats" is not a valid command.
Feb 26 00:21:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 26 00:21:49 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223169 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 606 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 1 hour, 27 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4373609.64927 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.79172
Feb 26 00:21:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.678 BTC [+]
Feb 26 00:22:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Feb 26 00:22:10 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4373609.64927 based on data since last change | 4587789.77324 based on data for last three days
Feb 26 00:22:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.678 BTC [+]
Feb 26 00:23:15 <Namworld>	Havelock... the overpriced market...
Feb 26 00:23:22 <Namworld>	I want to arbitrage that =/
Feb 26 00:23:31 <ThickAsThieves>	can say the same about mpex too this week
Feb 26 00:23:41 <Namworld>	aight
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Feb 26 00:25:33 <Namworld>	Thank you mircea
Feb 26 00:26:00 <Namworld>	MPEx probably has the fastest withdrawal/deposit time for manual processing.
Feb 26 00:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	<Bowjob> Just wtf is going on at Havelock lol << what ?
Feb 26 00:28:35 <Bowjob>	the HIM fund just went up crazy
Feb 26 00:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	what's that even
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Feb 26 01:03:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4558 @ 0.00075113 = 3.4237 BTC [-]
Feb 26 01:04:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1542 @ 0.00074965 = 1.156 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 01:08:28 <Chaang-Noi>	whats up all
Feb 26 01:10:42 <Garr255_Lappy>	not much just talking to a guy on Skype. you?
Feb 26 01:10:45 <Garr255_Lappy>	;)
Feb 26 01:13:09 <Chaang-Noi>	lol :)
Feb 26 01:13:17 <Chaang-Noi>	about to get some nachos, im damn hungerz
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Feb 26 01:16:25 <Bowjob>	rally
Feb 26 01:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8088 @ 0.00075914 = 6.1399 BTC [+]
Feb 26 01:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15008 @ 0.00074965 = 11.2507 BTC [-]
Feb 26 01:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2454 @ 0.0007474 = 1.8341 BTC [-]
Feb 26 01:31:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 17 BTC [+]
Feb 26 01:40:18 <Bowjob>	I figured out why HIM went up
Feb 26 01:40:58 <Chaang-Noi>	HIM?
Feb 26 01:41:03 <Chaang-Noi>	and 7 btc? lol
Feb 26 01:41:06 <Chaang-Noi>	17*
Feb 26 01:41:12 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 26 01:41:17 <Bowjob>	share split
Feb 26 01:41:24 <Chaang-Noi>	what is it?
Feb 26 01:41:33 <Bowjob>	the shares will be split by 10
Feb 26 01:41:44 <Bowjob>	someones hoping to sell for higher
Feb 26 01:41:47 <Chaang-Noi>	still have no clue what it is..
Feb 26 01:41:54 <Bowjob>	HIM?
Feb 26 01:42:01 <Bowjob>	havelock mining fund
Feb 26 01:42:20 <Chaang-Noi>	i see
Feb 26 01:42:36 <Chaang-Noi>	shocked anyone would buy anything mining other than asicminer
Feb 26 01:42:37 <Bowjob>	well..
Feb 26 01:43:44 <Bowjob>	when Berkshire hathaway B got split, the price rose
Feb 26 01:43:48 <Bowjob>	due to liquidity
Feb 26 01:43:55 <Bowjob>	maybe that will happen to havelock too?
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Feb 26 01:50:56 <Bowjob>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/1163-february-25th-2012-update-discussion-thread-2.html#post16081
Feb 26 01:51:08 <Bowjob>	It seems to me BFL customers developed stockholm syndrome
Feb 26 01:57:53 <Chaang-Noi>	new target for bfl is end of the year right?
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Feb 26 02:05:19 <Namworld>	Hmm... so will they pull a long con in the end?
Feb 26 02:05:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.678 = 2.712 BTC [+]
Feb 26 02:18:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.679 = 3.395 BTC [+]
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Feb 26 02:46:02 <Namworld>	All the BitPride is gone =/
Feb 26 02:47:06 <Diablo-D3>	who?
Feb 26 02:47:20 <Namworld>	BitPride on bitfunder
Feb 26 02:47:35 <Diablo-D3>	never heard of them
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Feb 26 02:48:47 <Namworld>	They sell bitcoin tshirts
Feb 26 02:49:34 <Diablo-D3>	damn, they had stock?! fuck!
Feb 26 02:49:50 <Namworld>	yeah, put 20% on sale at 0.00003
Feb 26 02:49:57 <Diablo-D3>	faaaaawk
Feb 26 02:50:02 <Namworld>	just after Ziggap this weekend
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Feb 26 02:51:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [+]
Feb 26 02:51:24 <Namworld>	Ziggap from aethero and bitcoinpride.com, from the UT guy.
Feb 26 02:52:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.119 = 0.238 BTC [+]
Feb 26 02:52:55 <Namworld>	Both nice guys. The businesses ain't much yet tho.
Feb 26 02:53:23 <Diablo-D3>	so hrm
Feb 26 02:55:07 <Namworld>	If anyone wants to flip some shares for 10% gain, I'd like to buy some around 0.000033
Feb 26 02:55:49 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if the world is ready for bitcoin farming
Feb 26 02:56:08 <Namworld>	What would be the concept of that?
Feb 26 02:56:19 <Diablo-D3>	selling produce for bitcoins
Feb 26 02:56:30 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, actual farming. of food.
Feb 26 02:56:51 <Diablo-D3>	I find it strange I have to qualify that
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Feb 26 02:57:47 <Namworld>	Well I'll buy the best food that is cheapest... if you can beat the supermarket, will spend my bitcoins whenever.
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Feb 26 03:01:58 <Diablo-D3>	yeah that sthe thing
Feb 26 03:02:03 <Diablo-D3>	we'd need a non-profit to do that
Feb 26 03:02:05 <Diablo-D3>	a massive one
Feb 26 03:02:28 <dub>	wat
Feb 26 03:03:30 <Diablo-D3>	dub: what?
Feb 26 03:06:01 <dub>	exactly
Feb 26 03:19:55 <Chaang-Noi>	30.6  what is are recent high?
Feb 26 03:19:59 <Chaang-Noi>	like the monthly high?
Feb 26 03:24:59 <Namworld>	like 31.something
Feb 26 03:25:40 <Diablo-D3>	no
Feb 26 03:25:45 <Diablo-D3>	we didnt hit >31.00
Feb 26 03:25:59 <Diablo-D3>	it whammed right off it and stayed under
Feb 26 03:26:08 <Diablo-D3>	so we havent crossed the historical high yet
Feb 26 03:28:05 <Namworld>	We went over 31
Feb 26 03:28:31 <Bowjob>	http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif
Feb 26 03:28:58 <Namworld>	what's that? A pixel?
Feb 26 03:29:12 <Bowjob>	apparently
Feb 26 03:29:27 <Bowjob>	http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3t54wq/
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Feb 26 03:30:07 <Namworld>	Give it to me... You'll be happier
Feb 26 03:30:23 <Namworld>	Probably should give me your car and house too, just to be safe.
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Feb 26 03:31:16 <Bowjob>	house
Feb 26 03:31:23 <Bowjob>	thats one thing i want to buy'
Feb 26 03:31:28 <Bowjob>	but i cant afford it lol
Feb 26 03:32:02 <Bowjob>	http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3t56s5/
Feb 26 03:32:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i was thinking we did 31.4 but not sure
Feb 26 03:32:13 <Bowjob>	relevamt to what happened to me
Feb 26 03:32:24 <Bowjob>	exce[t my ipod ressurected. so i returned the gen 5
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Feb 26 04:03:10 <Diablo-D3>	woah
Feb 26 04:03:14 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Feb 26 04:03:14 <assbot>	Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
Feb 26 04:03:18 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Feb 26 04:03:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.00807, Best ask: 31.06720, Bid-ask spread: 0.05913, Last trade: 31.06720, 24 hour volume: 29384.48846701, 24 hour low: 29.77696, 24 hour high: 31.06720, 24 hour vwap: 30.39006
Feb 26 04:03:24 <Diablo-D3>	when did we cross 31?
Feb 26 04:05:50 <Bowjob>	just now
Feb 26 04:05:53 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 26 04:05:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.80000, Best ask: 31.00795, Bid-ask spread: 0.20795, Last trade: 31.00795, 24 hour volume: 28618.49223743, 24 hour low: 29.77696, 24 hour high: 31.10000, 24 hour vwap: 30.40113
Feb 26 04:06:04 <Namworld>	We had crossed 31 a few days earlier
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Feb 26 04:15:37 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: nope
Feb 26 04:15:44 <Diablo-D3>	we almost did but didnt quite make it
Feb 26 04:15:46 <Namworld>	Yes...
Feb 26 04:15:51 <Namworld>	We did cross 31...
Feb 26 04:15:56 <Diablo-D3>	you sure?
Feb 26 04:16:07 <Namworld>	100%
Feb 26 04:16:21 <Namworld>	22th I think
Feb 26 04:16:43 <Diablo-D3>	weird, I didnt see it and ive been wathcing it
Feb 26 04:17:13 <dub>	31.33
Feb 26 04:17:16 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg60zigDailyzczsg2013-02-22zeg2013-02-22ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
Feb 26 04:17:19 <dub>	er 31.3
Feb 26 04:17:31 <Namworld>	yeah, 22th, 31.3
Feb 26 04:22:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 711 @ 0.0062 = 4.4082 BTC [+]
Feb 26 04:22:54 <Chaang-Noi>	hey Diablo-D3 when i go to turn off my computer, mint, it never shuts down and keeps running some trace, wtf lol?
Feb 26 04:23:06 <Chaang-Noi>	we crossed 31 yes
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Feb 26 04:43:49 <dub>	a stack trace usually happens when you have bad drivers
Feb 26 04:44:43 <dub>	something is crashing
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Feb 26 04:47:34 <Chaang-Noi>	dub i think it is my video card drivers, thanks
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Feb 26 05:01:08 <Chaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85687.msg1560597#msg1560597   hmm
Feb 26 05:04:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00648 BTC [+]
Feb 26 05:05:43 <Diablo-D3>	[04:22:54] <Chaang-Noi> hey Diablo-D3 when i go to turn off my computer, mint, it never shuts down and keeps running some trace, wtf lol?
Feb 26 05:05:47 <Diablo-D3>	because mint sucks.
Feb 26 05:05:58 <Diablo-D3>	and it probably crashed during shutdown due to shitty drivers like dub said
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Feb 26 05:08:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00075965 = 4.1021 BTC [+]
Feb 26 05:08:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 662 @ 0.00074741 = 0.4948 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 05:11:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i failed getting my dual screens set up
Feb 26 05:17:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 734 @ 0.01 = 7.34 BTC [+]
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Feb 26 05:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00076935 = 0.9617 BTC [+]
Feb 26 05:35:35 <BingoBongo>	;;ticker
Feb 26 05:35:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.03103, Best ask: 31.11000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07897, Last trade: 31.14999, 24 hour volume: 28240.50985811, 24 hour low: 29.89550, 24 hour high: 31.15000, 24 hour vwap: 30.45454
Feb 26 05:35:55 <BingoBongo>	Are we touching the record yet?
Feb 26 05:36:49 <Diablo-D3>	not yet
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Feb 26 05:50:44 <Chaang-Noi>	1 block in 1.5 hours, hmm
Feb 26 05:51:02 <Chaang-Noi>	record is 31.92 right?
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Feb 26 06:06:25 <Bowjob>	31
Feb 26 06:06:35 <Chaang-Noi>	31.00?
Feb 26 06:06:38 <Chaang-Noi>	lol no
Feb 26 06:06:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean all time
Feb 26 06:08:01 <Bowjob>	i think it was 31.90 actually
Feb 26 06:08:06 <Bowjob>	so if we hi 31.91
Feb 26 06:11:44 <Chaang-Noi>	why do you think 31.9? im pretty sure i remember seeing 31.92
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Feb 26 06:13:07 <Chaang-Noi>	!ticker
Feb 26 06:13:08 <assbot>	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
Feb 26 06:13:15 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Feb 26 06:13:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.27000, Best ask: 31.42806, Bid-ask spread: 0.15806, Last trade: 31.27000, 24 hour volume: 29757.38041693, 24 hour low: 30.01133, 24 hour high: 31.50000, 24 hour vwap: 30.51773
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Feb 26 06:30:09 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 26 06:30:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.31101, Best ask: 31.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.18898, Last trade: 31.31100, 24 hour volume: 31109.51455139, 24 hour low: 30.01133, 24 hour high: 31.54000, 24 hour vwap: 30.56942
Feb 26 06:30:23 <Bowjob>	btc wont let me sleep
Feb 26 06:30:26 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 26 06:30:39 <leotreasure>	what was the record in 2011?
Feb 26 06:30:52 <leotreasure>	i too am losing sleep over this
Feb 26 06:31:34 <Bowjob>	it was 31.90
Feb 26 06:32:07 <Bowjob>	"31.90"
Feb 26 06:32:11 <Bowjob>	yeah according to bitbet
Feb 26 06:32:15 <Bowjob>	so if we hit 31.91
Feb 26 06:32:19 <Bowjob>	shits gonna explode
Feb 26 06:32:50 <leotreasure>	so happy i pretty much maxed my credit card last week
Feb 26 06:32:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought it was 31.92 :/
Feb 26 06:33:12 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol credit cards?
Feb 26 06:33:25 <leotreasure>	yeh i'm too poor to get good credit
Feb 26 06:33:33 <leotreasure>	my other loan is 14.something %
Feb 26 06:33:46 <Bowjob>	my credit rating is in the high 700s
Feb 26 06:33:48 <Bowjob>	master race!
Feb 26 06:34:06 <Bowjob>	they asked me to increase my credit limit lol
Feb 26 06:34:07 <leotreasure>	i didn't even know credit ratings had numbers
Feb 26 06:34:16 <leotreasure>	although maybe it's different in australia
Feb 26 06:44:17 <Bowjob>	"Seems to me everyone here developed stockholm syndrome" .. hahahha they quoted me from BFL forums
Feb 26 06:48:53 <Chaang-Noi>	my credit rating is 840's
Feb 26 06:49:07 <Chaang-Noi>	but its funny, cuz i dont accept credit, so i dont even know
Feb 26 06:49:16 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: thats basically why
Feb 26 06:49:41 <Diablo-D3>	although not sure how its THAT high without open lines of credit
Feb 26 06:49:47 <Chaang-Noi>	only credit iv ever accepted was student govt loans. paid back same month :/
Feb 26 06:49:56 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: wait a sec
Feb 26 06:49:58 <Diablo-D3>	you're foreign
Feb 26 06:50:02 <Diablo-D3>	you dont have a credit score
Feb 26 06:50:02 <Bowjob>	840s is too high
Feb 26 06:50:11 <Chaang-Noi>	im american d3, oh lol
Feb 26 06:50:18 <Diablo-D3>	er, since when?
Feb 26 06:50:18 <Bowjob>	you cant have 840.... thats way too high lol
Feb 26 06:50:19 <Chaang-Noi>	who dont even know who i am? im goat
Feb 26 06:50:35 <Diablo-D3>	I know you're goat, but I thought you lived over in asia somewhere
Feb 26 06:50:37 <Chaang-Noi>	that is what the lady at the bank told me when i got a bank account
Feb 26 06:50:44 <Bowjob>	i've paid every single credit card statement, and i got 700s
Feb 26 06:50:48 <Diablo-D3>	btw, the highest score is 850
Feb 26 06:50:49 <Chaang-Noi>	live in asia does not mean i cant be american and have a credit rating
Feb 26 06:50:56 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah she told me
Feb 26 06:51:05 <Chaang-Noi>	she was really shocked, as was i
Feb 26 06:51:11 <Chaang-Noi>	could ahve been a mistake or something
Feb 26 06:51:13 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: because hard inquiries and age of lines are BIG factors
Feb 26 06:51:32 <Diablo-D3>	if you have 0 hard inquiries and lines that are 10+ years old, its easy to get above 800 if you have zero negative factors
Feb 26 06:51:33 <Bowjob>	so chang is an old dude, got it
Feb 26 06:51:43 <Bowjob>	10+ years old?
Feb 26 06:51:47 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 26 06:51:47 <Diablo-D3>	Ive met only two people with scores >800
Feb 26 06:51:48 <Chaang-Noi>	im older than you i bet, but im not "old" :)
Feb 26 06:51:57 <Diablo-D3>	neither of them are bitcoiners
Feb 26 06:51:58 <Chaang-Noi>	my dad has 830
Feb 26 06:52:05 <Bowjob>	my mom has like 300
Feb 26 06:52:06 <Chaang-Noi>	he was not happy mine was better
Feb 26 06:52:08 <Bowjob>	dad has 500
Feb 26 06:52:14 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: well, past 800 it doesnt matter
Feb 26 06:52:20 <Bowjob>	i am NOT following their footsteps lol
Feb 26 06:52:25 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: 800 means basically you can walk into a bank and get free blowjobs.
Feb 26 06:52:26 <Chaang-Noi>	that is what my dad said lol, i thought he was just bitter
Feb 26 06:52:39 <Chaang-Noi>	she did seem like she was willing to blow me...
Feb 26 06:52:46 <Bowjob>	dude its thailand
Feb 26 06:52:52 <Chaang-Noi>	that was in the usa...
Feb 26 06:52:54 <Bowjob>	but theres lots of traps there
Feb 26 06:52:56 <Bowjob>	oh
Feb 26 06:52:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i was there like 6 months ago
Feb 26 06:52:57 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 26 06:53:01 <Bowjob>	then its USA
Feb 26 06:53:02 <Diablo-D3>	btw, one of the guys that I know that has >800 had like a $100k limit from discover
Feb 26 06:53:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i opened the account then
Feb 26 06:53:26 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah d3, my dad has something like that too
Feb 26 06:53:31 <Chaang-Noi>	uses it for business
Feb 26 06:53:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i however do not have one
Feb 26 06:53:40 <Diablo-D3>	he doesnt have it anymore though, discover started closing lines on anyone that owned a small business during the bank crash
Feb 26 06:53:49 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: this was a personal line
Feb 26 06:53:58 <Diablo-D3>	his businesses have had much bigger lines of credit
Feb 26 06:54:11 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i dont know the details.
Feb 26 06:54:21 <Diablo-D3>	I think he has like a $50k amex atm as his biggest card
Feb 26 06:54:27 <Chaang-Noi>	we like to operate pay in advance anyway, we make custom stuff...
Feb 26 06:54:29 <Diablo-D3>	he wants to up it though
Feb 26 06:54:32 <Bowjob>	id be nice to max that shit and buy buttcoins last month
Feb 26 06:54:34 <Chaang-Noi>	we try to avoid accepting credit
Feb 26 06:54:39 <Diablo-D3>	he wants to be able to walk into a tesla showroom and buy a model s.
Feb 26 06:54:41 <Diablo-D3>	just for the lulz
Feb 26 06:54:55 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, we dont do that sorta shit lol
Feb 26 06:55:08 <Diablo-D3>	he has the cash in the bank to write a check
Feb 26 06:55:23 <Diablo-D3>	he just wants to buy an expensive car on a credit card once in his life
Feb 26 06:55:24 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i understand that
Feb 26 06:55:28 <Diablo-D3>	just so he can tell the story
Feb 26 06:55:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean having the cash
Feb 26 06:55:55 <Chaang-Noi>	gold however is pretty nice... i dont like banks
Feb 26 06:55:57 <Diablo-D3>	hes also a collossal asshole for not offering to buy me a model s :<
Feb 26 06:56:00 <Chaang-Noi>	they give out credit!
Feb 26 06:56:08 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: depends on the bank
Feb 26 06:56:13 <Diablo-D3>	the bank I keep my money at does not
Feb 26 06:56:25 <Chaang-Noi>	still, fuck banks, fuck fiat:)
Feb 26 06:56:32 <Diablo-D3>	fuck BIG banks, yes
Feb 26 06:56:39 <Chaang-Noi>	alll banks!@
Feb 26 06:56:41 <Diablo-D3>	small banks are not the bad guys here
Feb 26 06:56:49 <Diablo-D3>	neither are credit unions
Feb 26 06:57:13 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: small banks got fucked by the big banks too
Feb 26 06:57:15 <Diablo-D3>	just like everyone else
Feb 26 06:58:25 <Chaang-Noi>	iv got a fucking fire in my living room
Feb 26 06:58:36 <Chaang-Noi>	thai people.. lol
Feb 26 06:59:12 <Chaang-Noi>	lets bbq pork, inside!!!
Feb 26 06:59:15 <Chaang-Noi>	atleast i get beer...
Feb 26 06:59:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4982 @ 0.00074741 = 3.7236 BTC [-]
Feb 26 07:01:56 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yeah see
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Feb 26 07:02:06 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: foreigners like that scare the shit out of me
Feb 26 07:03:53 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, its a controled fire but lol
Feb 26 07:04:08 <Chaang-Noi>	its okay, i try to be openmineded, they are with me:)
Feb 26 07:04:10 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway bbl
Feb 26 07:04:22 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 32
Feb 26 07:04:25 <gribble>	There are currently 10194.424 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 325405.164521 USD in total.
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Feb 26 07:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00075932 = 4.2902 BTC [+]
Feb 26 07:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00076935 = 1.4233 BTC [+]
Feb 26 07:15:50 <Chaang-Noi>	lol at bfl https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75802.msg1560828#msg1560828
Feb 26 07:18:32 <Chaang-Noi>	looks like i will win my bet
Feb 26 07:22:23 <Namworld>	aye
Feb 26 07:23:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet they wont make it by the 15th either...
Feb 26 07:23:37 <Chaang-Noi>	but not as much.. but im thinking about uping it
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Feb 26 07:25:55 <Chaang-Noi>	http://bitbet.us/bet/261/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-15th/
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Feb 26 07:31:45 <Namworld>	eh, not sure
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Feb 26 07:40:31 <Chaang-Noi>	too many people think bfl will fail, i wont bet more right now :/
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Feb 26 08:05:13 <Namworld>	Why was Ziggap IPO not announced with good advance? It sold out in no time. I wanted some early bird shares.
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Feb 26 08:06:02 <Namworld>	I went to sleep and when I woke up the announcement and all shares were gone.
Feb 26 08:06:34 <Namworld>	Nice work between
Feb 26 08:07:46 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hi. What's the largest exchange around here? I'm looking for something like mtgox's equivalent of sorts.
Feb 26 08:08:00 <Namworld>	MPEx is the largest
Feb 26 08:08:04 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I'm interested in liquidity.
Feb 26 08:08:11 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Namworld: I see, thanks.
Feb 26 08:08:28 <Namworld>	MPEx is the most liquid it seems. But not many choice. But quality choice.
Feb 26 08:08:40 <Namworld>	BTC/USD options, Satoshi Dice
Feb 26 08:08:53 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm, that sounds cool.
Feb 26 08:08:54 <Namworld>	The account costs 30 BTC to open however.
Feb 26 08:08:57 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Well, perhaps not the SD.
Feb 26 08:09:09 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Uh... what?
Feb 26 08:09:12 <Eduard_Munteanu>	That's a lot.
Feb 26 08:09:33 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Any 2nd best choice?
Feb 26 08:09:56 <Namworld>	MPEx is made to function as a stock exchange. It relies on account holders to either be a large trader or to create services brokering for smaller clients.
Feb 26 08:10:22 <Namworld>	Among other things I suppose because tending to small clients is time consuming.
Feb 26 08:10:41 <Namworld>	For example all deposits/withdrawals are manual from cold storage.
Feb 26 08:10:44 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Is there any broker for them?
Feb 26 08:10:58 <Namworld>	I broker the stocks on BTCT.co
Feb 26 08:11:22 <Namworld>	3 passthrough. DeaDTerra has some on BitFunder.com
Feb 26 08:11:38 <Namworld>	So those two exchange have passthrough for MPEx stocks.
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Feb 26 08:12:07 <Namworld>	BitVPS is on BTCT.co, Ziggap is on BitFunder
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Feb 26 08:12:53 <aethero>	ZIGGAP is now a registered money services business registration # 31000019972805
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Feb 26 08:13:27 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Namworld: I'm not sure I get it, is 30BTC a fee, or do you get to use it after registering?
Feb 26 08:13:38 <Namworld>	It's a fee
Feb 26 08:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu it's a fee.
Feb 26 08:14:13 <Namworld>	It goes into profits for the exchange and fees are distributed to MPOE holders
Feb 26 08:14:17 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I see.
Feb 26 08:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	also, are you romanian ?
Feb 26 08:14:34 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: yes :)
Feb 26 08:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	haha cool.
Feb 26 08:14:48 <mircea_popescu>	you're like the first i think..
Feb 26 08:15:05 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Interesting. I think I got PMed by another one on #bitcoin.
Feb 26 08:15:20 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I don't remember the nick unfortunately.
Feb 26 08:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	not in bitcoin, on mpex.
Feb 26 08:15:30 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Ah.
Feb 26 08:15:53 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I'm rather new to BTC as well.
Feb 26 08:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Feb 26 08:15:59 <Namworld>	(mircea is romanian too as you might have guessed by the name and happen to be MPEx's owner)
Feb 26 08:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 26 08:16:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.40001, Best ask: 31.40100, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 31.40100, 24 hour volume: 33370.91437260, 24 hour low: 30.07000, 24 hour high: 31.60000, 24 hour vwap: 30.66622
Feb 26 08:16:18 <Namworld>	In case that wasn't clear.
Feb 26 08:16:29 <Bowjob>	rally bitche
Feb 26 08:16:29 <Bowjob>	s
Feb 26 08:16:32 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Yeah, I figured. :)
Feb 26 08:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob where's bugpowder's graphlines when you need them!
Feb 26 08:17:15 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: I think I've seen you around #haskell lately? Not sure.
Feb 26 08:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	possibly, for some values of lately.
Feb 26 08:17:48 <Bowjob>	BFL fans developing Stockholm syndrome, its delicious
Feb 26 08:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol quote
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Feb 26 08:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	anyway Eduard_Munteanu, you're like one of the few that can read this natively :
Feb 26 08:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/
Feb 26 08:21:47 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: yep... pretty cool business you got there. Are you from Bucharest?
Feb 26 08:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	no. cluj originally, but i reside in timisoara.
Feb 26 08:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	okay, queue flushed and i shall be back later. take care all.
Feb 26 08:23:26 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I was considering buying/selling some bitcoins locally, the spreads seem pretty high.
Feb 26 08:24:31 <Namworld>	The best way to get market rate is bank transfer to an exchange
Feb 26 08:24:45 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Namworld: ah, no, I'm interested in making money :)
Feb 26 08:24:57 <Bicknellski>	Hehehe
Feb 26 08:25:02 <Namworld>	trade locally, buy low, sell high
Feb 26 08:25:08 <Bicknellski>	Yup
Feb 26 08:25:21 <Bicknellski>	especially if people are in need of fiat
Feb 26 08:25:29 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Anyway, I need to sell quite a few Pecunix to get some BTCs first.
Feb 26 08:25:47 <Bicknellski>	What is that Eduard?
Feb 26 08:25:54 <Bicknellski>	local ecurrency?
Feb 26 08:26:08 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Bicknellski: no, an ecurrency equivalent to a gram of gold
Feb 26 08:26:17 <Bicknellski>	I googled it
Feb 26 08:26:18 <Bicknellski>	thanks..
Feb 26 08:26:34 <Namworld>	Eduard: be wary however.
Feb 26 08:26:50 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Namworld: of local trading?
Feb 26 08:27:06 <Namworld>	No, the BTC price raised by over 100% in the last two months
Feb 26 08:27:23 <Namworld>	It might not keep it's worth for long. BTC is volatile.
Feb 26 08:27:33 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Yeah, I know. I'd like to wait a bit and see if it crashes.
Feb 26 08:27:36 <Namworld>	It goes up and down wildly with news.
Feb 26 08:27:55 <Namworld>	other than that, the global picture is a slow and steady raise.
Feb 26 08:28:13 <Eduard_Munteanu>	The demand might be gone after the ASICs are sold.
Feb 26 08:29:00 <Bicknellski>	same here... but the bubble seems to be more of a new normal
Feb 26 08:29:00 <Namworld>	Also be wary, many BTC stocks end up being scams or perform poorly.
Feb 26 08:29:42 <Bicknellski>	there is a lot more money in than the last time when it tanked
Feb 26 08:31:05 <Bicknellski>	But I think you are right local trading is a very good way to go
Feb 26 08:31:12 <Bicknellski>	just finding BTC locally is a hard one
Feb 26 08:31:13 <Namworld>	Lots of investigation required. There's occasional opportunities that open, usually best flipping it right back.
Feb 26 08:31:19 <Bicknellski>	at least for me anyhow
Feb 26 08:31:49 <Eduard_Munteanu>	The spreads are huge, the only ones selling are doing it for $37/BTC.
Feb 26 08:31:56 <Namworld>	ouch
Feb 26 08:32:37 <TomServo>	Anyone ever heard of a local trade 'gone wrong'?
Feb 26 08:32:45 <Chaang-Noi>	id sell at 37 $ :)
Feb 26 08:33:06 <Namworld>	I didn't... but that might have happened.
Feb 26 08:33:13 <Chaang-Noi>	no, but i bet people will get mugged over it one of these days
Feb 26 08:33:36 <Chaang-Noi>	make sure to meet in a bank loby or something, lol
Feb 26 08:33:47 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Good thing we don't carry BTCs around in our wallets.
Feb 26 08:34:09 <kakobrekla>	i do
Feb 26 08:34:29 <Eduard_Munteanu>	kakobrekla: cool, some BTC-denominated card?
Feb 26 08:34:53 <kakobrekla>	cas coin and some home made priv keys printed as bank note
Feb 26 08:35:13 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Interesting.
Feb 26 08:35:25 <Eduard_Munteanu>	That's one way to print your own notes.
Feb 26 08:35:43 <Eduard_Munteanu>	BTC rules.
Feb 26 08:39:43 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Namworld: do you have fancier stuff like options or shorting?
Feb 26 08:40:21 <Namworld>	No, unfortunatly. Not easy to set up.
Feb 26 08:40:51 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Yeah. Also I suppose shorting is risky for the lender.
Feb 26 08:40:53 <Namworld>	I can broker options manually on request.
Feb 26 08:41:16 <Namworld>	Yes, I don't lend my assets.
Feb 26 08:41:26 <kakobrekla>	Yes, I don't lend my ass.
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Feb 26 08:43:56 <DeadWeasel>	selfish lovers
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Feb 26 08:44:52 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 32
Feb 26 08:44:54 <gribble>	There are currently 11216.171 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 357926.122005 USD in total.
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Feb 26 08:45:20 <Namworld>	We'll break the all time high at this rate...
Feb 26 08:46:32 <DeadWeasel>	what psychological impact will that have?  I would guess short term dumping by a steady rise, if the dumps aren't maintained
Feb 26 08:46:45 <DeadWeasel>	followed by*
Feb 26 08:47:29 <Namworld>	I'd be more for extreme frenzy of old followed by a steep decline.
Feb 26 08:47:30 <DeadWeasel>	would like to see a dump around 32.69ish, then buy back in a few dollars cheaper if possible.
Feb 26 08:47:33 <DeadWeasel>	so impossible to know
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Feb 26 08:48:05 <DeadWeasel>	frenzy of old?
Feb 26 08:48:22 <Namworld>	in 2011
Feb 26 08:48:37 <Namworld>	Where for a short time it really skyrocketed.
Feb 26 08:49:11 <DeadWeasel>	this rise has been slightly more metered.
Feb 26 08:50:00 <Namworld>	perhaps...
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Feb 26 08:51:56 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone know the odds for this site? http://kingco.in/
Feb 26 08:52:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont mind us staying under it for a month, then i giant break out to $50
Feb 26 08:53:12 <kakobrekla>	yeah well
Feb 26 08:53:16 <kakobrekla>	a lot of people is saying that
Feb 26 08:53:21 <abracadabra>	the odds are not in your favor
Feb 26 08:53:24 <abracadabra>	;)
Feb 26 08:53:25 <kakobrekla>	lucky theres always dubasses that dump
Feb 26 08:54:53 <Chaang-Noi>	abra, im sure, but im up 120% just testing it
Feb 26 08:56:31 <Namworld>	I think the dumbasses are the ones mass buying currently.
Feb 26 08:56:59 <kakobrekla>	sell all you have then
Feb 26 08:57:40 <Namworld>	I'm not selling. On the very long term, I'm long. But in the short term, I'm short after such a large rise.
Feb 26 08:58:06 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I wish I could short BTC right now.
Feb 26 08:58:11 <Namworld>	I got BTC placed in USD based income businesses.
Feb 26 09:01:30 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 26 09:01:33 <kakobrekla>	bfl bet rehashed
Feb 26 09:01:33 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/261/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-15th/
Feb 26 09:02:15 <kakobrekla>	this time im not the author tho
Feb 26 09:03:05 <kakobrekla>	belivers went quiet?
Feb 26 09:05:53 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21589128   Bank Of England considering negative interest rates
Feb 26 09:06:16 <ThickAsThieves>	we don't want your money
Feb 26 09:06:47 <Eduard_Munteanu>	ThickAsThieves: I'm cool with that as long as they don't lend my money
Feb 26 09:06:57 <Chaang-Noi>	someone was here a while ago saying they bought on credit cards
Feb 26 09:07:02 <Bicknellski>	Man I have to buy some BTC soon no matter what yuk!
Feb 26 09:07:04 <Eduard_Munteanu>	That's how full reserve should work. Otherwise, no way, GTFO. :)
Feb 26 09:08:31 <Eduard_Munteanu>	If the interest rate doesn't cover the inflation, you're probably better off keeping your money in a warehouse, safe deposit box, full reserve bank, some other currency etc.
Feb 26 09:10:21 <Bicknellski>	Bank Of England considering negative interest rates  (Freicoin)
Feb 26 09:10:43 <Bicknellski>	:)
Feb 26 09:13:30 <Bicknellski>	BFL is so fubar
Feb 26 09:13:35 <Diablo-D3>	negative interest rates? lol
Feb 26 09:21:39 <Bicknellski>	Awesome right
Feb 26 09:21:46 <Bicknellski>	spread the wealth people...
Feb 26 09:21:47 <jurov>	lol if banks don't know what to do with money, why not fund long term infrastructure/scientific development..
Feb 26 09:21:51 <jurov>	...but that doesn't look good on quarterly report, yeah
Feb 26 09:22:06 <Bicknellski>	The money is broken
Feb 26 09:22:09 <Bicknellski>	;)
Feb 26 09:24:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00076482 = 6.0421 BTC [-]
Feb 26 09:25:07 <DeadWeasel>	the money is broken, lol.
Feb 26 09:25:16 <DeadWeasel>	very broken
Feb 26 09:25:31 <Bicknellski>	Yup
Feb 26 09:25:36 <Bicknellski>	... hahaha
Feb 26 09:33:23 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Who needs banks when you have BITCOIN! :)
Feb 26 09:34:10 <Namworld>	You said you were new but seem to already have catched the Bitcoin bug.
Feb 26 09:34:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1084 @ 0.00076482 = 0.8291 BTC [-]
Feb 26 09:35:27 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Namworld: indeed, quite fun
Feb 26 09:36:00 <thestringpuller>	Namworld:
Feb 26 09:36:09 <thestringpuller>	yt?
Feb 26 09:36:24 <Namworld>	hmm... what's yt?
Feb 26 09:36:52 <ThickAsThieves>	you there?
Feb 26 09:37:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Feb 26 09:37:05 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223218 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 557 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 6 hours, 38 minutes, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4316094.45818 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.2164
Feb 26 09:37:10 <Namworld>	ah. Well obviously since I talked two minutes ago.
Feb 26 09:37:26 <Namworld>	Eduard: then you might appreciate this tool I've made: http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/
Feb 26 09:37:38 <Bicknellski>	4316094.45818  vs 3651011.630693214
Feb 26 09:37:41 <Namworld>	I use it to wake up when price moves on MtGox
Feb 26 09:37:51 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm, interesting, thanks.
Feb 26 09:38:01 <Namworld>	thestringpuller, what did you want?
Feb 26 09:38:38 <Bicknellski>	Doctor SP.
Feb 26 09:39:42 <thestringpuller>	a vps and a new domain name
Feb 26 09:39:47 <thestringpuller>	for another project
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Feb 26 09:40:15 <Namworld>	Ah, I see.
Feb 26 09:40:33 <Namworld>	You will need to wait for Arij or Phungus to be around to set up a VPS.
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Feb 26 09:46:54 <thestringpuller>	when would that bd
Feb 26 09:46:57 <thestringpuller>	be*
Feb 26 09:49:08 <Namworld>	You have an order up on bitvps.com?
Feb 26 09:49:45 <Namworld>	Should be set somewhere this afternoon/evening then.
Feb 26 09:54:04 <Namworld>	Hmm, nothing else?
Feb 26 09:54:56 <Namworld>	I'm off for now.
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Feb 26 10:46:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C310T
Feb 26 10:46:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.25778105 / 0.25819404 / 0.28103279 (563 shares, 145.36 BTC), 30D: 0.25778105 / 0.25819404 / 0.28103279 (563 shares, 145.36 BTC)
Feb 26 10:46:46 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C350T
Feb 26 10:46:47 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.2057493 / 0.2057493 / 0.2057493 (916 shares, 188.47 BTC), 30D: 0.2057493 / 0.2057493 / 0.2057493 (916 shares, 188.47 BTC)
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Feb 26 10:57:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.68 = 1.36 BTC [+]
Feb 26 11:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1816 @ 0.00076391 = 1.3873 BTC [-]
Feb 26 11:02:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6645 @ 0.00076935 = 5.1123 BTC [+]
Feb 26 11:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17489 @ 0.00076936 = 13.4553 BTC [+]
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Feb 26 11:58:27 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 26 11:58:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.01298, Best ask: 31.03999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02701, Last trade: 31.03999, 24 hour volume: 39955.84230975, 24 hour low: 30.11000, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 30.85183
Feb 26 11:58:39 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24prc
Feb 26 11:58:39 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24prc" is not a valid command.
Feb 26 11:58:45 <DeadWeasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Feb 26 11:58:46 <gribble>	30.80
Feb 26 11:59:29 <aethero>	Updated volume and profit statements for ZIGGAP released on it's BitFunder description page
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Feb 26 12:05:50 <ThickAsThieves>	thx
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Feb 26 12:19:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00629175 = 6.2918 BTC [-]
Feb 26 12:19:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00629176 = 4.4042 BTC [+]
Feb 26 12:25:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00071 = 0.71 BTC [-]
Feb 26 12:26:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1055 @ 0.0007 = 0.7385 BTC [-]
Feb 26 12:30:42 <topace>	anyone used php's gpg extensiosn? when i gnupg_verify, i get a  "validity" field in the result, that seems to be 0 for failed, or 4 for valid... but i have no clue what the 4 means, or if i should accept 1,2,3,4,etc as valid as well?
Feb 26 12:32:16 <mod6>	On success, this function returns information about the signature. On failure, this function returns FALSE.
Feb 26 12:32:34 <mod6>	so maybe any integer returned is ok
Feb 26 12:32:51 <mod6>	http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.gnupg-verify.php
Feb 26 12:33:17 <topace>	failure doesnt mean signature invalid
Feb 26 12:33:33 <topace>	an invalid signature still returns the array of information about the sig
Feb 26 12:33:57 <mod6>	ahh, well too bad its not like perl where you can just look in the PM to find what's what.
Feb 26 12:35:54 <topace>	{"fingerprint":"8DDE8C2B4DE2278A95C3D65B9214FC6BF1B69921","validity":4,"timestamp":1361385050,"status":0,"summary":3}
Feb 26 12:35:58 <topace>	it returns things like that
Feb 26 12:36:18 <topace>	i have no clue what status, summary, or validity values are
Feb 26 12:36:45 <mod6>	what does it say if you make it fail
Feb 26 12:37:17 <topace>	{"fingerprint":"9214FC6BF1B69921","validity":0,"timestamp":0,"status":117440520,"summary":4}
Feb 26 12:38:07 <mod6>	hmm. so if validity is > 0 you're ok?
Feb 26 12:38:23 <topace>	thats what i'd like to really be sure of.. not really something i can ASSUME
Feb 26 12:38:31 <mod6>	fair enough
Feb 26 12:38:36 <topace>	im making a way to automatically push assets from MPEX to Havelock, simply by pasting in a PUSH receipt
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Feb 26 12:40:47 <mod6>	i remember you saying this before.
Feb 26 12:41:49 <mod6>	i don't know how one does that. In my mind, person A owns 1 share of XYZ and he can push to another key on the MPEx keyring (weather it exists on the keyring or not) ... but how does one push this to a remote keyring?
Feb 26 12:42:30 <mod6>	i would think that i'd have to be different to discern who person A is on the remote system and just dump the 1 XYZ in there, while keeping the 1 XYZ in holdings on MPEx
Feb 26 12:42:49 <mod6>	s/i'd/it'd/
Feb 26 12:43:02 <topace>	yes, you would push it from your mpex account to the havelock mpex account
Feb 26 12:43:21 <topace>	then paste the push receipt into the havelock website, which would verify 6 things:
Feb 26 12:44:02 <mod6>	but how? i mean, on mpex its just like "PUSH|MPSIC|LONGKEYFINGERPRINT|QTY"
Feb 26 12:44:09 <mod6>	how do you specify a destination?
Feb 26 12:44:23 <mod6>	OH
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Feb 26 12:44:39 <mod6>	ok... so with the receipt you just parse that on the remote end and use that to verify.
Feb 26 12:44:47 <topace>	//1 valid signature
Feb 26 12:44:47 <topace>	                //2 that its actually from mpex (fingerprint?)
Feb 26 12:44:47 <topace>	                //3 that its a receipt we have not processed already
Feb 26 12:44:47 <topace>	                //4 that its a push receipt to havelock account
Feb 26 12:44:47 <topace>	                //5 that we recognize what was pushed
Feb 26 12:44:47 <topace>	                //6 that the quantity if what was pushed is ok
Feb 26 12:44:52 <mod6>	yeah, this could get hairy dude.
Feb 26 12:45:37 <topace>	its actually very straightforward
Feb 26 12:45:42 <topace>	and secure
Feb 26 12:45:58 <mod6>	good luck :)
Feb 26 12:46:03 <topace>	as long as one can trust and properly interpret the result from gnupg_verify()
Feb 26 12:49:51 <mod6>	yeah, seems like if you could know for certain about 1-6 it could work pretty good.  could reek havoc though if there was any problems.
Feb 26 12:53:08 <topace>	when i launch it, it'll go through a manual approval step for the first little while, just to make sure :)
Feb 26 12:53:52 <topace>	but from my understanding, it should work just fine, i ran it by mp too and he seemed to think it should work well
Feb 26 13:01:18 <mod6>	yeah it seems like it could work out decent.  doing it manually in tandom for a while would be good to ensure that the correct values get to the correct accounts, etc.
Feb 26 13:02:28 <mod6>	its shitty when neat-o libraries don't define their return statements, nor can they be correlated to a given spec.
Feb 26 13:02:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.64798 BTC [+]
Feb 26 13:02:47 <mod6>	at least not easily found or whatever :/
Feb 26 13:03:21 <mod6>	back to the first statement: On success, this function returns information about the signature. On failure, this function returns FALSE.
Feb 26 13:03:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 25 @ 0.01 = 0.25 BTC [+]
Feb 26 13:03:35 <mod6>	i'd be nice to know what {1,2,3,4...} are for! lol
Feb 26 13:03:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
Feb 26 13:06:15 <mod6>	hahaha
Feb 26 13:06:17 <mod6>	If verification fails, the gnupg_verify() returns the key's id instead of fingerprint .  It does not return FALSE as stated above (PHP4, have not tested PHP5).  You can compare it with result of keyinfo:
Feb 26 13:06:32 <mod6>	http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.gnupg-verify.php#89192
Feb 26 13:06:54 <mod6>	so much for returning FALSE
Feb 26 13:07:07 <topace>	yea
Feb 26 13:07:15 <topace>	thats what i said, it always returns an array
Feb 26 13:07:21 <topace>	unless the function itself completely fails for some reason
Feb 26 13:07:41 <topace>	its just checking the values from the returned array (esp the "validity" field) that i need to be 100% sure about
Feb 26 13:07:57 <mod6>	yeah, i see.
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Feb 26 13:10:09 <mod6>	this seems like it could work pretty good with some testing
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Feb 26 13:14:01 <topace>	not sure how much demand there would be... its possible now, for free, just manaually processed, and nobody has taken advantage of it yet
Feb 26 13:14:32 <topace>	but for the naysayers that think im "hogging all the arbitrage" as i add more units to havelock.. it'll satisfy them at least (give them the opportunity to do the same arbitrage)
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Feb 26 13:22:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3449 BTC [+]
Feb 26 13:26:23 <mod6>	topace: yeah, seems like it would be some good arbitrage oppertunities -- im sure with this automated demand would pick up over time.
Feb 26 13:26:55 <mod6>	:]
Feb 26 13:28:38 <mod6>	<bernakazi> We're not engaged in a currency war.
Feb 26 13:28:41 <mod6>	o rly?
Feb 26 13:29:11 <mod6>	http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?play=1&video=3000150533
Feb 26 13:29:29 <mod6>	ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
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Feb 26 13:38:42 <ThickAsThieves>	top, i didnt know you did that
Feb 26 13:38:54 <ThickAsThieves>	facilitate buys from mpex
Feb 26 13:39:05 <ThickAsThieves>	so i used other exchanges in the past
Feb 26 13:39:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i started on havelock
Feb 26 13:40:00 <ThickAsThieves>	but to be fair, I didn't know anyone did it til Deadterra
Feb 26 13:41:17 <ThickAsThieves>	why wouldn't you just hog all the arbitrage if you have the ability?
Feb 26 13:44:16 <topace>	ThickAsThieves: yea havelock launched teh SDICE passthru beginning of January
Feb 26 13:44:45 <topace>	and we allow users to push existing holdings from mpex to havelock, or from havelock back to mpex
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Feb 26 13:46:04 <topace>	ThickAsThieves: i dont mind hogging all the arbitrage at all, but its kind of a conflict of interest since i run the site... if my goal is simply arbitrage at least... which it hasnt been since we launched.. my goal has been to grow the sdice holdings on havelock, and the only way to do that is to buy on mpex and sell the units on havelcok, so the arbitrage is a added side-benifit to me.
Feb 26 13:46:34 <topace>	i move things at break-even often, so no profit from the arbitrage at all
Feb 26 13:46:38 <topace>	just to get more units onto havelock
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Feb 26 13:47:02 <ThickAsThieves>	the 5% cut being plenty
Feb 26 13:47:10 <ThickAsThieves>	make sense
Feb 26 13:48:09 <topace>	but the more liquid the better, so if its easier for others to do the arbitrage as well, im all for that
Feb 26 13:48:19 <topace>	thus, why i want to setup this automatic push system
Feb 26 13:48:25 <topace>	instead of having to manually process push requests
Feb 26 13:49:20 <ThickAsThieves>	but this would only be for people who have an mpex account right
Feb 26 13:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00634999 = 12.7 BTC [+]
Feb 26 13:49:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00635 = 19.05 BTC [+]
Feb 26 13:49:37 <ThickAsThieves>	the feature you are developing, I mean
Feb 26 13:49:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.640001 = 15.36 BTC [-]
Feb 26 13:49:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.64000002 = 1.28 BTC [-]
Feb 26 13:49:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.64000001 = 9.6 BTC [-]
Feb 26 13:49:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.64 = 5.76 BTC [-]
Feb 26 13:49:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i need to just get an mpex account already
Feb 26 13:50:11 <topace>	yea exactly, it would only work if you also had an mpex account
Feb 26 13:50:28 <topace>	or, had someone with an mpex account willing to purchase/push on you rbehalf (others here have made that offer to people before i've seen)
Feb 26 13:50:49 <ThickAsThieves>	ah, thats what I was referring to with deadterra
Feb 26 13:51:09 <ThickAsThieves>	buying on mpex for me and pushing to BF
Feb 26 13:51:36 <topace>	yea.. i'd do that for havelock users too, if im around
Feb 26 13:52:01 <topace>	but im not here 24/7, and often when the good arbitrage opportunities come up, you have to act quickly
Feb 26 13:52:11 <ThickAsThieves>	right
Feb 26 13:52:49 <ThickAsThieves>	several us have had urges to cream into your bids for sdice in recent weeks
Feb 26 13:53:01 <ThickAsThieves>	of
Feb 26 13:53:43 <topace>	yea, im amazed at the demand for sdice on havelock
Feb 26 13:53:56 <topace>	and it just keeps growing
Feb 26 13:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00635 = 31.75 BTC [+]
Feb 26 13:54:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.64 = 5.12 BTC [-]
Feb 26 13:54:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.639 = 9.585 BTC [-]
Feb 26 13:54:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.63200001 = 8.216 BTC [-]
Feb 26 13:54:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.632 = 8.848 BTC [-]
Feb 26 13:55:09 <ThickAsThieves>	would this be something that could be integrated with coinbr
Feb 26 13:55:34 <topace>	^ there, i actually LOST bitcoins doing that arbigrage, just to move another 5000 shares to havelock
Feb 26 13:55:53 <ThickAsThieves>	but thats only beneficial for YOU ;)
Feb 26 13:56:03 <topace>	indeed :)
Feb 26 13:56:24 <topace>	1,050,000 SDICE shares now on havelock
Feb 26 13:57:20 <topace>	not sure about integrating with coinbr, anything is possible though
Feb 26 13:57:33 <topace>	if coinbr gives you PUSH receipts from mpex, then it would work
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Feb 26 14:01:45 <jurov>	coinbr does push completely manually, i can give you the receipt if needed
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Feb 26 14:03:24 <topace>	do users get the receipt?
Feb 26 14:03:34 <jurov>	yes if they ask
Feb 26 14:04:07 <topace>	well, let me get automatic mpex<-->havelock setup first, then lets talk about setting up coinbr<-->havelock :)
Feb 26 14:04:18 <jurov>	anyway i did it only once so far... with your offering this may get requested more and be the impetus do do it better
Feb 26 14:04:40 <jurov>	but i'm very wary of any automatic moving of stuff to/from mpex
Feb 26 14:05:44 <jurov>	not easy to fix afterwards, you know
Feb 26 14:06:50 <pigeons>	you'll have to sue the proprieotr in his own court if you make an error
Feb 26 14:07:21 <topace>	heh yea
Feb 26 14:07:26 <jurov>	if there's a know proprietor, ofc
Feb 26 14:07:31 <jurov>	*known
Feb 26 14:07:37 <topace>	the 'automatic' is going to have a final approval button for me to click for the first little while
Feb 26 14:07:39 <topace>	just to make sure
Feb 26 14:07:55 <topace>	but realistically, it should work perfectly
Feb 26 14:08:02 <topace>	and im always in favour of automating things
Feb 26 14:08:15 <topace>	i like residual income, not income i have to work for!
Feb 26 14:09:12 <jurov>	if there's only one fixed address involved it's doable
Feb 26 14:09:40 <jurov>	but the thought of supporting automatic transfers to anywhere makes my hair stand up
Feb 26 14:10:13 <jurov>	maybe i'll have to use extra account for that, move the user's stuff there
Feb 26 14:10:33 <jurov>	and then in separate step move it out
Feb 26 14:10:51 <jurov>	and accepting incoming transfers likewise on other direction
Feb 26 14:16:00 <jurov>	so that neither coinbr's core addy gets known nor successful attack of frontend enable attacker to push stuff onto his account
Feb 26 14:16:46 <topace>	heh you must not trust your own security then :p
Feb 26 14:17:16 <jurov>	i don't have to  trust the filthy bitvps machine, that's all
Feb 26 14:17:24 <topace>	ah
Feb 26 14:17:33 <topace>	own all my physical servers
Feb 26 14:17:39 <topace>	and they're locked in my own cage at the data center
Feb 26 14:17:59 <jurov>	i prefer to have frontend and backed physically separated
Feb 26 14:18:34 <jurov>	i also expect ddos, it will make it handling easier if backend is completely elsewhere
Feb 26 14:20:24 <jurov>	bootstrapping it completely, has to do things as lean as possible
Feb 26 14:20:59 <jurov>	can't expect any investor in this situation "okay, now tell me more about this mircea popescu" lol
Feb 26 14:23:26 <jurov>	even if i paint him in rosy colors, then they come around trilema blog and MPOE-PR haha
Feb 26 14:25:06 <jurov>	whatever. i'm used to doing things in this fashion.
Feb 26 14:25:16 <jurov>	alone
Feb 26 14:26:30 <thestringpuller>	jurov mircea_popescu will likely be your first big investor
Feb 26 14:27:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00636 = 0.0445 BTC [+]
Feb 26 14:27:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 93 @ 0.00636 = 0.5915 BTC [+]
Feb 26 14:27:36 <jurov>	he is not interested in doing noob interface.
Feb 26 14:27:48 <jurov>	maybe we can do some other project like he did with kakobrekla if i come around interesting idea
Feb 26 14:28:28 <thestringpuller>	bitbet is going to grow rather slow
Feb 26 14:29:40 <jurov>	but hockey stick curve for bitbet is possible, if it becomes as popular as sdice
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Feb 26 14:30:24 <jurov>	i decided to dampen things in coinbr by asking monthly fee... after several months i can say i did it right
Feb 26 14:30:56 <jurov>	the issues i had would be unsolvable with 10-100x higher volume
Feb 26 14:31:22 <swhitt>	;;bc,stats
Feb 26 14:31:24 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223259 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 516 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 2 hours, 9 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4336419.58974 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.7731
Feb 26 14:31:25 <swhitt>	,,bc,stats
Feb 26 14:31:27 <swhitt>	bleh
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Feb 26 14:37:38 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Feb 26 14:37:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.63000000 / 0.6383501 / 0.68000000 (240 shares, 153.20402432 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.65789684 / 0.74399999 (1300 shares, 855.26589784 BTC), 30D: 0.52100000 / 0.6659979 / 0.89000000 (11030 shares, 7345.95684524 BTC)
Feb 26 14:40:22 <jurov>	;;calc 4336419 * 1.5
Feb 26 14:40:22 <gribble>	6504628.5
Feb 26 14:41:13 <jurov>	how likely is the diff to go up by 50% around March 14?
Feb 26 14:42:12 <jurov>	with no signs of fpga progress... maybe i can sell some more iDiff-Os at 0.07
Feb 26 14:43:14 <ThickAsThieves>	looking less and less likely
Feb 26 14:43:42 <ThickAsThieves>	not one asic provider is meeting their projections
Feb 26 14:46:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.5008 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 14:49:25 <DeadWeasel>	;;ticker
Feb 26 14:49:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.96001, Best ask: 30.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 30.88007, 24 hour volume: 42692.62675683, 24 hour low: 30.11000, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 30.92679
Feb 26 14:49:37 <swhitt>	I bet BFL won't ship until the end of march
Feb 26 14:50:01 <DeadWeasel>	end of april, if at all
Feb 26 14:57:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00991 = 0.0991 BTC [-]
Feb 26 14:58:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 38 @ 0.0099 = 0.3762 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 15:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00076 = 2.128 BTC [-]
Feb 26 15:26:51 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap balls
Feb 26 15:26:52 *	gribble slaps balls with a mean AK-47
Feb 26 15:27:03 <mod6>	yikes
Feb 26 15:27:26 <mod6>	7.62x39 to the ball bag != good day
Feb 26 15:27:44 <DeadWeasel>	nope.  i just want to go home.
Feb 26 15:27:56 <DeadWeasel>	fucking jobs and the money they pay me.
Feb 26 15:27:59 <DeadWeasel>	jerks
Feb 26 15:28:56 <mod6>	ahh werd
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Feb 26 15:41:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [+]
Feb 26 15:44:11 <kakobrekla>	sup bitches'
Feb 26 15:44:45 <deadweasel>	;;slap balls
Feb 26 15:44:47 *	gribble slaps balls with a slushy carcass
Feb 26 15:44:54 <deadweasel>	ballsacks
Feb 26 15:44:55 <deadweasel>	that's what
Feb 26 15:45:06 <deadweasel>	sup witch u kako?
Feb 26 15:45:13 <deadweasel>	mah brudda?!?!
Feb 26 15:45:33 <kakobrekla>	:D
Feb 26 15:45:35 <deadweasel>	srsly, I just don't give a fuck about working anymore.
Feb 26 15:45:44 <deadweasel>	i gotta get out of here.
Feb 26 15:45:59 <kakobrekla>	all good, been a long day which is just about to start really
Feb 26 15:46:04 <kakobrekla>	yes, stop wroking.
Feb 26 15:46:07 <kakobrekla>	working
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Feb 26 15:46:15 <kakobrekla>	its silly!
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Feb 26 15:47:33 <deadweasel>	bugpowder, you're here!  and kakobrekla !    you can watch my apathy grow!
Feb 26 15:47:47 <kakobrekla>	show us what u got
Feb 26 15:47:50 <deadweasel>	it's thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis big.
Feb 26 15:48:02 <deadweasel>	1 million strong, and groooooowing
Feb 26 15:49:09 <deadweasel>	i'm closing this ssh session.  these people want to offer me a permament position, I should pretend to work the last 10 minutes i'm here.
Feb 26 15:49:12 <deadweasel>	adios
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Feb 26 15:49:47 <jurov>	doing things over ssh = not working? strange
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Feb 26 15:51:19 <Bugpowdr>	huh?
Feb 26 15:52:04 <Bugpowdr>	The reddit wankers are getting more pathetic by the day.  http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/199vvi/bitcoins_and_how_they_changed_my_life/
Feb 26 15:52:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 17.5 BTC [+]
Feb 26 15:53:00 <Bugpowdr>	"At this point, bitcoins could go to $0 without any regrets"  I seriously doubt that this statement is true.
Feb 26 15:53:51 <dub>	don't forget the $1000 ripples
Feb 26 15:54:05 <jurov>	i seriously expected mention of silkroad/satoshidice
Feb 26 15:54:14 <dub>	or whatever XBC is
Feb 26 15:54:39 <jcpham>	OMG dub R U SELLING XBC??????!?!?!?!
Feb 26 15:54:47 <dub>	what is xbc
Feb 26 15:54:52 <jcpham>	shrug
Feb 26 15:54:54 <dub>	and yes I am selling it
Feb 26 15:55:00 <jcpham>	schweet
Feb 26 15:55:02 <error4733>	me too 50K
Feb 26 15:55:12 <dub>	100btc each you send first
Feb 26 15:55:13 <error4733>	for 50K s.dice
Feb 26 15:55:15 <jcpham>	can iripple with it?
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Feb 26 16:05:24 <topace>	jesus, HIM trading at 17.50 BTC
Feb 26 16:05:45 <dub>	what is HIM
Feb 26 16:05:46 <topace>	thats over $500/share
Feb 26 16:05:55 <topace>	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=HIM
Feb 26 16:06:05 <topace>	good thing we're doing the 1:10 stock split on friday
Feb 26 16:06:09 <topace>	bring things back to a normal level
Feb 26 16:06:11 <dub>	eww worldwidewebternet
Feb 26 16:06:15 <dub>	I prefer not to
Feb 26 16:06:18 <topace>	we're the berkshire hathaway of bitcon investmetns right now
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Feb 26 16:10:41 <Namworld_afk>	Bugpowdr: personally I wouldn't mind that much right if BTC went to zero and died.
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Feb 26 16:12:23 <thestringpuller>	topace berkshire hathaway? bold claim
Feb 26 16:12:57 <thestringpuller>	also if you were truly B-H you wouldnt split the stock
Feb 26 16:15:08 <burnside>	what's the rough hashrate/share right now on HIM?
Feb 26 16:17:17 <topace>	thestringpuller: just from a high price perspective at least. not referring at all to possible returns
Feb 26 16:17:32 <topace>	not many people are willing to drop $500+ on a single unit of an investment
Feb 26 16:17:50 <topace>	yea, we dont want to be b-h :) we want market liquidity
Feb 26 16:18:12 <topace>	and that only comes at this point with either a) millionaires, or b) lower per-unit price
Feb 26 16:18:20 <topace>	burnside: about 25GH
Feb 26 16:18:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 17 BTC [-]
Feb 26 16:18:59 <topace>	err actually, ~23GH, we shut off a a few of the old GPU machines, only FPGA's are running now
Feb 26 16:19:10 <pigeons>	keep talking maybe someone will buy another
Feb 26 16:19:17 <topace>	ahaha apparently
Feb 26 16:19:21 <pigeons>	:)
Feb 26 16:19:39 <midnightmagic>	25GH..  per share?
Feb 26 16:19:49 <topace>	nonono
Feb 26 16:20:00 <midnightmagic>	25GH total. How many shared?
Feb 26 16:20:03 <midnightmagic>	er.. shares?
Feb 26 16:20:14 <topace>	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=HIM
Feb 26 16:20:16 <midnightmagic>	Are they ownership stakes in the mining equipment?
Feb 26 16:20:21 <topace>	yes
Feb 26 16:20:31 <topace>	a share is its percent of the total ownership of the compnay
Feb 26 16:20:39 <topace>	400 shares
Feb 26 16:20:42 <topace>	on friday it'll be 4000
Feb 26 16:21:02 <midnightmagic>	Oh, they're actual shares in a company..?
Feb 26 16:21:11 <midnightmagic>	Are the articles of incorporation available somewhere?
Feb 26 16:22:18 <midnightmagic>	aaargh there's an sdice passthrough. lol
Feb 26 16:22:56 <midnightmagic>	topace: Hey if they're ownership stakes does that mean we can trade the shares in for shipped fpga units?
Feb 26 16:23:24 <topace>	they arent shares, they are units :)
Feb 26 16:23:53 <topace>	and no, you cant trade a unit in for a shipped fpga
Feb 26 16:25:05 <midnightmagic>	topace: What FPGAs are you running? ztex?
Feb 26 16:25:06 <Bugpowdr>	Namworld_afk: you buy puts again?
Feb 26 16:25:23 <topace>	bfl
Feb 26 16:26:00 <topace>	and have pre-orders in for asic upgrades on every fpga already (since july/august).. if bfl ever ships, lol
Feb 26 16:26:26 <topace>	the delays all the asic producers have had have been great for the fund though, much better return on the FPGAs
Feb 26 16:26:54 <topace>	https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=8159181&V_TOKEN=1361913886449&crpNm=8159181&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=
Feb 26 16:27:01 <topace>	not sure if that'll work, ight have the session in it...
Feb 26 16:30:19 <midnightmagic>	it works. That's the corporation?
Feb 26 16:30:59 <midnightmagic>	Are the articles of incorporation somewhere on that page, or are they elsewhere?
Feb 26 16:31:29 <midnightmagic>	good heravens, if that's you, you're federally incorporated dude.
Feb 26 16:32:05 <dub>	federation of moosecock?
Feb 26 16:35:12 <midnightmagic>	dub: how droll
Feb 26 16:39:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00074744 = 7.4744 BTC [-]
Feb 26 16:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2015 @ 0.00074743 = 1.5061 BTC [-]
Feb 26 16:40:23 <burnside>	topace, thanks, that's pretty good.
Feb 26 16:42:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 8 @ 0.17554903 = 1.4044 BTC [-]
Feb 26 16:48:13 <topace>	yea
Feb 26 16:48:20 <topace>	we're federally incorporated
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Feb 26 16:54:11 <topace>	it costs $200 and takes 15 minutes online to get a federal corporation
Feb 26 16:54:14 <topace>	in canada
Feb 26 16:54:43 <topace>	with it comes a lot of reporting requirements of course, and those are LEGAL requirements
Feb 26 16:54:55 <topace>	so its easy to get, but not easy to do all the things you have to do once you have it
Feb 26 16:56:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 18 BTC [+]
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Feb 26 17:08:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Feb 26 17:08:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 15.90000000 / 16.815 / 18.00000000 (10 shares, 168.15000000 BTC), 7D: 14.91990000 / 16.12499375 / 18.00000000 (16 shares, 257.99990000 BTC), 30D: 12.12000000 / 14.46514286 / 18.00000000 (49 shares, 708.79200000 BTC)
Feb 26 17:08:34 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Feb 26 17:11:22 <jurov>	big brother's watching: http://otc.armed.us/otc
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Feb 26 17:11:58 <jurov>	http://otc.armed.us/otc/?mircea_popescu lol he got kicked repeatedly
Feb 26 17:11:59 <dub>	midnightmagic: I didn't realise canada was a federation
Feb 26 17:13:18 <Lyspooner>	he was kicked thrice
Feb 26 17:13:25 <jurov>	and the PREV_NICK: entries are lulzy
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Feb 26 17:26:54 <Bowjob>	wee
Feb 26 17:28:59 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/26/4031938/new-crowdfunding-platforms-let-you-sell-stock-in-yourself
Feb 26 17:30:42 <Bowjob>	hey im a bitcoiner, invest in me
Feb 26 17:30:45 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 26 17:32:33 <jurov>	"OptionsCover":[{"":{"MPSIC":"O.BTCUSD.C160T", "Quantity":"1", "TotalSum":"100000000"}},
Feb 26 17:32:34 <jurov>	{"":{"MPSIC":"O.BTCUSD.P160T", "Quantity":"1", "TotalSum":"100000000"}},
Feb 26 17:32:44 <jurov>	^ now that's a lulzy format
Feb 26 17:33:13 <Bowjob>	if bfl will ship march 9th... then
Feb 26 17:33:26 <Bowjob>	it will pretty much match avalon 2's shipment date
Feb 26 17:33:41 <dub>	do the avalons work?
Feb 26 17:34:07 <jurov>	i'm concerned only about difficulty increas, that shoudl happen around March 14... and it won't be affected much
Feb 26 17:35:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.683 = 5.464 BTC [+]
Feb 26 17:35:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6839 = 3.4195 BTC [+]
Feb 26 17:35:58 <Bowjob>	the ones we've seen works, yea
Feb 26 17:36:14 <dub>	more than 2 or 3?
Feb 26 17:36:21 <Bowjob>	yes
Feb 26 17:36:26 <Bowjob>	in china at least
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Feb 26 17:36:44 <Bowjob>	2 in NA, at lease 3 in china, and the rest are being hush hush
Feb 26 17:37:03 <dub>	so 2
Feb 26 17:37:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.683 = 5.464 BTC [-]
Feb 26 17:39:00 <dub>	hardly confidence inspiring
Feb 26 17:45:05 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147139.msg1562492#msg1562492
Feb 26 17:45:06 <kakobrekla>	lulz
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Feb 26 17:46:10 <Bugpowdr>	wow
Feb 26 17:46:22 <Bugpowdr>	i would be surprised if it really was down perm
Feb 26 17:46:27 <Bugpowdr>	it's been around for a long time
Feb 26 17:46:53 <Bugpowdr>	luckily no coins pending on it
Feb 26 17:47:05 <Bowjob>	mhm..  sucks for those with 2-3 year bets
Feb 26 17:47:07 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 26 17:47:11 <Bugpowdr>	A strong argument against betting on an even that is more than a few months out
Feb 26 17:47:14 <kakobrekla>	i never saw a bet worth registering for
Feb 26 17:47:17 <Bugpowdr>	exactly Bowjob
Feb 26 17:47:19 <kakobrekla>	on that site
Feb 26 17:47:32 <Bugpowdr>	I liked the SHA-3 bets
Feb 26 17:47:44 <Bugpowdr>	easy money
Feb 26 17:47:51 <kakobrekla>	what were they?
Feb 26 17:47:51 <Bugpowdr>	someone bet emotionally on them
Feb 26 17:48:15 <Bowjob>	"Server is down for maintenance. We'll be back in a couple of hours."
Feb 26 17:48:21 <Bowjob>	there we go
Feb 26 17:48:24 <Bugpowdr>	Which hash will become sha-3
Feb 26 17:48:36 <Bugpowdr>	someone bet like 50BTC on one
Feb 26 17:48:43 <kakobrekla>	huh
Feb 26 17:48:44 <Bugpowdr>	and quite a bit against on several others
Feb 26 17:48:58 <Bugpowdr>	So I just bet against the pro one and for all the others
Feb 26 17:49:08 <Bugpowdr>	was not disappoint with the results
Feb 26 17:49:11 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 26 17:49:28 <Bugpowdr>	Also the Ron Paul bets were awesome
Feb 26 17:49:36 <Bugpowdr>	betting against paultards
Feb 26 17:49:57 <Bugpowdr>	Ron Paul to become president.  Yeah I'll bet 50BTC against that and take your money thank you
Feb 26 17:50:04 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 26 17:51:02 <error4733>	who's next president ?
Feb 26 17:51:24 <error4733>	*next candidate
Feb 26 17:51:25 <dub>	sarah palin
Feb 26 17:51:36 <error4733>	+1
Feb 26 17:52:12 <dub>	probably Hu Jintao tbh
Feb 26 17:52:16 <error4733>	the real face of amurica
Feb 26 17:53:18 <jurov>	maybe if they had a bet about betofbitco.in ceases operation in 2013....oh nvm
Feb 26 17:53:54 <Lyspooner>	we'll say the same thing about mpex one day
Feb 26 17:53:57 <error4733>	nice toshop job ! Hu Jintao at the oval office
Feb 26 17:54:08 <dub>	jurov: to bitbet!
Feb 26 17:54:27 <Lyspooner>	"remember when you could buy shares of mpoe on mpex? boy was that stupid"
Feb 26 17:54:31 <Bowjob>	I wanted to see an apocalypse bet
Feb 26 17:54:41 <jurov>	what to bitbet? should we put that bet on bitbet?
Feb 26 17:54:56 <jurov>	yea.. and i was ..like.. a broker, hahahaha
Feb 26 17:55:08 <Lyspooner>	boy was that jurov guy stupid
Feb 26 17:55:29 <Lyspooner>	:)
Feb 26 17:55:51 <jurov>	even if it crashed tomorrow i can say i was living 2 months off it
Feb 26 17:56:05 <jurov>	not bad, don't you tihnk?
Feb 26 17:56:23 <kakobrekla>	im worse
Feb 26 17:56:26 <kakobrekla>	1year+
Feb 26 17:56:51 <jurov>	so, you're even more stupid then :D
Feb 26 17:56:56 <kakobrekla>	yes
Feb 26 17:57:01 <kakobrekla>	total retard.
Feb 26 17:57:10 <jurov>	*highfive*
Feb 26 17:57:24 <kakobrekla>	im so stupid i dunno how to do dat
Feb 26 17:57:40 <jurov>	*kakobrekla tries and misses
Feb 26 17:57:48 <kakobrekla>	darn
Feb 26 17:57:52 <kakobrekla>	better go practice
Feb 26 17:57:57 *	Lyspooner high fours
Feb 26 17:58:28 <Namworld_afk>	living off of what?
Feb 26 17:58:41 <kakobrekla>	coins
Feb 26 17:58:43 <jurov>	coinbr+mpex daytrading
Feb 26 17:58:51 <jurov>	+bitfunder shenanigans
Feb 26 17:59:05 <Namworld_afk>	oh... what's wrong with that?
Feb 26 17:59:14 <Bugpowdr>	eating the seed corn
Feb 26 17:59:20 <kakobrekla>	i bought a car with em with btc was liek 5 euro
Feb 26 17:59:21 <Bugpowdr>	of the financial revolution
Feb 26 17:59:37 <kakobrekla>	prolly im as dumb as 10k pizza guy
Feb 26 17:59:47 <Bugpowdr>	this is the main problem with plan Tesla
Feb 26 17:59:49 <Lyspooner>	dude was not dumb, he got a pizza
Feb 26 18:00:21 <Bugpowdr>	I want to like sell maybe 10% of my coins for a Tesla.
Feb 26 18:00:32 <Lyspooner>	he helped kickstart a revolution, he got a pizza and he didn't have to kill anyone
Feb 26 18:00:47 <Bugpowdr>	Which is going to take quite a bit more rise in value
Feb 26 18:00:57 <kakobrekla>	he helped himself get poor
Feb 26 18:01:01 <kakobrekla>	thats the only thing he did
Feb 26 18:01:03 <jurov>	since revolutions tend to eat its children... better eat the seeds.
Feb 26 18:01:19 <Bugpowdr>	How many coins did he still have after the pizza?
Feb 26 18:01:29 <Lyspooner>	at least 50k
Feb 26 18:01:32 <kakobrekla>	depends if he did reorder
Feb 26 18:01:36 <Bugpowdr>	I think he is doing ok
Feb 26 18:02:00 <Bugpowdr>	the guy that sold the pizza though... He is the true visionary
Feb 26 18:02:30 <Lyspooner>	papa john's sold the pizza
Feb 26 18:02:56 <Lyspooner>	they are ok
Feb 26 18:03:52 <Lyspooner>	and he did reorder
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Feb 26 18:06:10 <kakobrekla>	heheh
Feb 26 18:06:14 <kakobrekla>	50k?
Feb 26 18:06:20 <kakobrekla>	thats a number pulled out of ur ass or?
Feb 26 18:08:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6829 = 1.3658 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 18:12:42 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 26 18:12:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.17999, Best ask: 31.18000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 31.17999, 24 hour volume: 42869.02144537, 24 hour low: 30.11110, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 30.99536
Feb 26 18:12:53 <Bowjob>	crash!
Feb 26 18:13:37 <jurov>	interesting, CoinBr.iDiff-E (expires April 17) sells quite well for 0.095 ... asics hope dies last, seems.
Feb 26 18:14:22 <error4733>	no, from the screenshoot of the guy wallet when he send the 10k
Feb 26 18:14:53 <kakobrekla>	i dont think there will be any majorish price increase until there is majorish difficulty increase
Feb 26 18:15:00 <kakobrekla>	meaning some one else has to deliver
Feb 26 18:15:03 <kakobrekla>	http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php
Feb 26 18:15:24 <kakobrekla>	my guess it it will stabilize around 0.15 eur per 100mhash daily or lower
Feb 26 18:15:27 <kakobrekla>	with asics
Feb 26 18:15:39 <kakobrekla>	maybe 0.1
Feb 26 18:16:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00636 = 0.636 BTC [+]
Feb 26 18:23:14 <kakobrekla>	anywho
Feb 26 18:23:30 <kakobrekla>	according to that chart bubble starts at ~40 to 45 usds at this diff
Feb 26 18:26:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00636 = 0.0127 BTC [+]
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Feb 26 18:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	sooo
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Feb 26 18:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	topace it's a good thing to have anyway.
Feb 26 18:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> more than 2 or 3? << supposedly some  chinese ppl got delivered. it's vague.
Feb 26 18:47:59 <Bowjob>	"China customs just discovered Bitcoins and are mining like there's no tomorrow..."
Feb 26 18:48:02 <Bowjob>	Uh oh
Feb 26 18:48:51 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> depends if he did reorder << haha good 1.
Feb 26 18:49:04 <jurov>	or all rigs were "harmonized" by The Party
Feb 26 18:49:33 <mircea_popescu>	re bubble talk allow me to shamelessly plug http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/permanently-elevated-plateau/
Feb 26 18:52:04 <Bowjob>	"China customs just discovered Bitcoins and are mining like there's no tomorrow..."
Feb 26 18:52:20 <Bowjob>	" onryo : Bowjob for real?"
Feb 26 18:52:23 <Bowjob>	xD
Feb 26 18:52:37 <Bowjob>	over at Bfl shoutbox
Feb 26 18:52:55 <kakobrekla>	luck this isnt bfl shoutbox ... OR IS IT?
Feb 26 18:53:00 <kakobrekla>	lucky*
Feb 26 18:53:19 <kakobrekla>	unless its inaba crying i dun wanna hear it
Feb 26 18:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	so did they get bumped yet ?
Feb 26 18:54:52 <Bowjob>	no
Feb 26 18:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	shocking.
Feb 26 18:55:04 <Bowjob>	march 9th is the new target date
Feb 26 18:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1560469#msg1560469
Feb 26 18:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol drama
Feb 26 18:55:20 <Bowjob>	may as well make another BFL bet that they wont ship by march 30th
Feb 26 18:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob this reminds me of george costanza getting married.
Feb 26 18:55:32 <kakobrekla>	its already up
Feb 26 18:55:36 <kakobrekla>	i think
Feb 26 18:55:37 <Bowjob>	is ti?
Feb 26 18:55:38 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 26 18:55:55 <kakobrekla>	ah, its the 15th
Feb 26 18:55:56 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/261/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-15th/
Feb 26 18:55:58 <kakobrekla>	this time
Feb 26 18:56:12 <kakobrekla>	too easy
Feb 26 18:56:21 <kakobrekla>	should be the end of the month
Feb 26 18:56:26 <kakobrekla>	to make it fun
Feb 26 18:56:27 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly.
Feb 26 18:56:45 <kakobrekla>	do something!!
Feb 26 18:57:40 <dub>	mircea_popescu: anything said to have happened in china carries much lower weighting in the dubwot
Feb 26 18:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder why.
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Feb 26 18:58:22 <Ukto>	didnt bfl already say by march ?
Feb 26 18:58:35 <kakobrekla>	2012?
Feb 26 18:58:39 <Ukto>	lol
Feb 26 18:58:40 <dub>	bfl have said a great number of things
Feb 26 18:58:47 <Ukto>	tis true
Feb 26 18:59:38 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto as best we can determine bfl bet 500 btc they'll deliver by march 1st
Feb 26 18:59:41 <mircea_popescu>	back in early january
Feb 26 18:59:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.679 = 4.753 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 19:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	so two days into the new month mpoe saw like 20k volume
Feb 26 19:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	this has all the makings of yet another record month
Feb 26 19:05:22 <mod6>	:D
Feb 26 19:05:31 <Ukto>	bfl bet 500btc?
Feb 26 19:05:46 <mircea_popescu>	i think so.
Feb 26 19:06:27 <ThickAsThieves>	no worries it was all extra scratch left over from BTC returns
Feb 26 19:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	possibly ya
Feb 26 19:12:04 <Bowjob>	josh said he didnt put money on the bet
Feb 26 19:12:05 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 26 19:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	well, the bet popped, then it was discussed on the forum then the bet showed up. who knows, maybe it's some other true believer.
Feb 26 19:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	sure looked suspicious tho
Feb 26 19:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	reasonably, a third party with 500 btc to ride on "bfl delivers" would have spent it to pre-order rather than to bet
Feb 26 19:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	then again, reasonably is overrated.
Feb 26 19:17:58 <jurov>	resonably, true believers should buy difficulty futures
Feb 26 19:18:39 <jurov>	some do but not many, i feared with prices i'm offering i'll have to think hard about collateral requirement
Feb 26 19:18:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.679 = 13.58 BTC [-]
Feb 26 19:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	yea. lots of stuff to learn for many people yet.
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Feb 26 19:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00075894 = 7.5135 BTC [+]
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Feb 26 19:26:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00424 BTC [-]
Feb 26 19:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/inpractice/qa/limit-cash-payments-clients
Feb 26 19:27:34 <mircea_popescu>	this shit is fucking insane.
Feb 26 19:27:53 <mircea_popescu>	it is not nor can it be the business of a solicitor to inquire as to where money comes from for fucks sake.
Feb 26 19:28:26 <mircea_popescu>	how long till people start coming to their senses ? "i am not the police and i do not do the job of the police. do your motherfucking jobs!"
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Feb 26 19:38:39 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	hello
Feb 26 19:39:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00897 BTC [+]
Feb 26 19:39:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 15 @ 0.00897 = 0.1346 BTC [+]
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Feb 26 19:41:00 <kakobrekla>	hi
Feb 26 19:43:05 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	when you think the next crash will be?
Feb 26 19:43:16 <kakobrekla>	3
Feb 26 19:43:17 <kakobrekla>	2
Feb 26 19:43:18 <kakobrekla>	1
Feb 26 19:43:20 <kakobrekla>	now.
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Feb 26 19:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 26 19:44:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.08556, Best ask: 31.12000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03444, Last trade: 31.12000, 24 hour volume: 42956.19105260, 24 hour low: 30.11710, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.01976
Feb 26 19:44:21 <kakobrekla>	its really gonna be now at some point of time.
Feb 26 19:44:22 <mircea_popescu>	the next crash will be after bitcoin touches 100
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Feb 26 19:45:08 <kakobrekla>	reminds me of the time argument
Feb 26 19:45:09 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36SQTFIAZKU
Feb 26 19:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	it's kinda funny to me tho, all the smartasses that were explaining how bitcoin is no good feel a little left out now
Feb 26 19:45:50 <mircea_popescu>	hoping for a crash
Feb 26 19:46:03 <mircea_popescu>	well... it's going to crash, but later on, and it won't crash as low as 30, so...
Feb 26 19:46:25 <DeadWeasel>	your basis for this is?
Feb 26 19:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	this.
Feb 26 19:46:52 <DeadWeasel>	not that!
Feb 26 19:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	kay
Feb 26 19:47:22 <DeadWeasel>	we all just speculatin'
Feb 26 19:47:50 <DeadWeasel>	but you have decided that the floor is now 30?
Feb 26 19:47:50 <Bowjob>	its gonna crash upwards
Feb 26 19:47:53 <DeadWeasel>	haha
Feb 26 19:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	seems pretty clear to me, yes. floor is now 30.
Feb 26 19:48:42 <DeadWeasel>	my floor is carpet
Feb 26 19:48:53 <aethero>	My floor is tile.
Feb 26 19:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	think about it. everyone that wanted to sell at 30 could have. there's no pressure tho.
Feb 26 19:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	so logically, nobody wants to sell at 30
Feb 26 19:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	this simply means people wanting in will have to pay more.
Feb 26 19:49:28 <mircea_popescu>	and they should be thankful for anything they get. it's early yet.
Feb 26 19:49:37 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/02/nj_legislature_approves_of_chr.html
Feb 26 19:49:50 <ThickAsThieves>	NJ joined the online gambling parade
Feb 26 19:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves they won't beat nevada tho
Feb 26 19:50:37 <ThickAsThieves>	nope
Feb 26 19:51:30 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: I still think we might see people cashing in USD, perhaps ASIC manufacturers for their day-to-day operations.
Feb 26 19:52:05 <DeadWeasel>	they don't have day to day operations
Feb 26 19:52:05 <ThickAsThieves>	didnt that happen at like $24 or so?
Feb 26 19:52:07 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu sure, some btc will always be on offer.
Feb 26 19:52:25 <DeadWeasel>	but the buyers wave is steady
Feb 26 19:52:27 <DeadWeasel>	amazingly
Feb 26 19:52:50 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Yeah, I'm pretty amazed it didn't crash. Might be relatively stable after all.
Feb 26 19:52:50 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, good/bad money theory.
Feb 26 19:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	everyone tends to spend btc last.
Feb 26 19:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	the miners that saved their mined btc made a killing this year, for instance
Feb 26 19:53:17 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm, good point.
Feb 26 19:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	this lesson has not been lost on anyone i've talked to.
Feb 26 19:53:53 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Did you get a miner btw? I'm a bit sorry I'm late to the party. :(
Feb 26 19:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	there's also the fiscal consideration. spend fiat, it counts as a deduction.
Feb 26 19:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	nah, im not into mining.
Feb 26 19:55:02 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Initially it seemed like a good deal, I probably would've bought a ~ $1500 miner. I'm interested to see how much they manage to get out of it.
Feb 26 19:55:05 <ThickAsThieves>	how do you mark buying BTC as a deduction?
Feb 26 19:55:26 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves the fiat you spend to pay for fixed costs is a deduction.
Feb 26 19:55:46 <ThickAsThieves>	like a tax deduction?
Feb 26 19:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	yes like a tax deduction.
Feb 26 19:56:08 <ThickAsThieves>	what fixed cost would it be best categorized as
Feb 26 19:56:13 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I wonder if you could deduct buying BTCs here.
Feb 26 19:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu pretty sure you couldn't.
Feb 26 19:56:37 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves company A spends 50, makes 70, pays tax on the 20.
Feb 26 19:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	if next year company A spends 55, makes the same 70, it pays tax on the 15 only
Feb 26 19:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	if the extra 5 pays electricity for a rig that makes no difference in this equation.
Feb 26 19:57:12 <ThickAsThieves>	incidentally every dime i've spent on bitcoin has come froma company account
Feb 26 19:57:12 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Actually yeah, you probably can't, not to mention you need receipts and such.
Feb 26 19:57:36 <kakobrekla>	you can get receipts from bitstamp or smth
Feb 26 19:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	i know some guy that charged all his game subscription to company
Feb 26 19:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	got audited, he claimed it's for employee's productivity
Feb 26 19:58:25 <mircea_popescu>	they disallowed like half
Feb 26 19:58:30 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Feb 26 19:58:48 <ThickAsThieves>	so would i call it an investment? Or what kind of expense?
Feb 26 19:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	apparently wow is not ok but some cs-thing is or something like that. he had a list.
Feb 26 19:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves you wouldn't call it anything. when power bill comes you just pay it and that's that.
Feb 26 19:59:22 <ThickAsThieves>	but on your taxes
Feb 26 19:59:26 <ThickAsThieves>	that goes under utilities
Feb 26 19:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	not on YOUR taxes.
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Feb 26 19:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	this is corporate tax we're discussing here.
Feb 26 19:59:51 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: I wonder if BTC is a good way to get money *out* of the company's accounts
Feb 26 20:00:01 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Deductible or not.
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Feb 26 20:00:26 <DeadWeasel>	get it out of the country then handle it
Feb 26 20:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	if it's your company you can do whatever you want.
Feb 26 20:00:33 <DeadWeasel>	fucking US taxes
Feb 26 20:00:35 <ThickAsThieves>	so it's just like any other vendor expense or such
Feb 26 20:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	you can make a company to warm the atmosphere if you please.
Feb 26 20:00:57 <ThickAsThieves>	this is kinda scary
Feb 26 20:01:01 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: AFAIK it's a pain to justify taking money out of your accounts
Feb 26 20:01:15 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I've seen people complain about it.
Feb 26 20:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	what dopes that even mean ?
Feb 26 20:01:25 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I'm sure there are ways around it though.
Feb 26 20:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard of such a problem.
Feb 26 20:01:42 <ThickAsThieves>	not in US
Feb 26 20:01:51 <ThickAsThieves>	take money out for whatever whenever
Feb 26 20:01:57 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: stuff like "I can't pay you cash, I don't have it"
Feb 26 20:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	ya well that's called being bankrupt.
Feb 26 20:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	we're talking actual corps here, not the living dead.
Feb 26 20:02:39 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I still assumed people were stubborn about it, so yeah, you're probably right.
Feb 26 20:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	that's the definition. unable to pay exigible demands => bankrupt.
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Feb 26 20:03:39 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: say a company wants to employ a sizeable portion of its workers under the table, that's the sort of scenario I have in mind
Feb 26 20:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be fraud now wouldn't it.
Feb 26 20:04:30 <ThickAsThieves>	so you do all your btc/fiat transactions above board?
Feb 26 20:04:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i know youll only give one answer i guess
Feb 26 20:04:48 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: I think so... hypothetically. :)
Feb 26 20:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves what transactions tho ?!
Feb 26 20:05:01 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Feb 26 20:05:07 <ThickAsThieves>	if you stay in BTC
Feb 26 20:05:11 <ThickAsThieves>	and spend BTC
Feb 26 20:05:14 <mircea_popescu>	i've bought plenty on my own account, as any other game subscription./currency/whatever
Feb 26 20:05:17 <ThickAsThieves>	nothing to note
Feb 26 20:05:28 <mircea_popescu>	i've not sold other than negligible amts
Feb 26 20:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	and if i do sell sure it'll be reported as revenue
Feb 26 20:05:59 <Bowjob>	ah damn.. it was nice while it worked
Feb 26 20:06:00 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 26 20:06:02 <ThickAsThieves>	surely most people wouldnt
Feb 26 20:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu ya well, that has little to do with btc. you can use goats or salt to commit fraud.
Feb 26 20:06:10 <Bowjob>	that XRP giveaway, they sent me 50k twice
Feb 26 20:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves why not ?!
Feb 26 20:06:26 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm, fair point.
Feb 26 20:06:33 <ThickAsThieves>	report income from BTC?
Feb 26 20:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Feb 26 20:07:01 <ThickAsThieves>	when the cats away
Feb 26 20:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	makes no sense. in a properly structured vehicle you pay whatever, 3% if anthing at all
Feb 26 20:07:23 <ThickAsThieves>	i know most americans would default to that attitude
Feb 26 20:07:29 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Well sure, now you don't expect a company owner to admit, no? Hypothetically, of course. :)
Feb 26 20:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	dudes, srsly. you're thinking like poor hicks in arkansas or some shit.
Feb 26 20:07:59 <ThickAsThieves>	more middle class and down
Feb 26 20:08:03 <ThickAsThieves>	a lot of people
Feb 26 20:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	the entire tax system is there to help. hire good fiscal representation and use it.
Feb 26 20:08:16 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont disagree
Feb 26 20:08:17 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I am poor, FSVO poor.
Feb 26 20:08:23 <ThickAsThieves>	a system only works when used properly
Feb 26 20:08:38 <Eduard_Munteanu>	So if I can keep a lil' more to myself... :)
Feb 26 20:08:42 <ThickAsThieves>	but i do believe the sentiment of those bitcoiners
Feb 26 20:08:55 <ThickAsThieves>	woulod be to sneak around with the btc money
Feb 26 20:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	ya, because most bitcoiners have bupkiss understanding of pricing risk
Feb 26 20:09:24 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Yes, we do need legitimate business on a more serious voice.
Feb 26 20:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	so they end up "investing" in whatever, btcjam and miner bonds
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Feb 26 20:10:28 <Eduard_Munteanu>	;;ticker
Feb 26 20:10:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.02001, Best ask: 31.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17999, Last trade: 31.20000, 24 hour volume: 42934.16522334, 24 hour low: 30.11710, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.03445
Feb 26 20:10:58 <ThickAsThieves>	okay, so about the system and taxes, doesnt spending bitcoin on bitcoin offerings still break things
Feb 26 20:11:20 <ThickAsThieves>	like if evoorhees rakes in btc
Feb 26 20:11:25 <ThickAsThieves>	and spends it as btc
Feb 26 20:11:39 <ThickAsThieves>	he never pays a tax
Feb 26 20:12:00 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Possibly. For instance buying/selling securities may be subject to different tax rules.
Feb 26 20:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	why would he ?
Feb 26 20:12:04 <ThickAsThieves>	loads of money goes in
Feb 26 20:12:08 <ThickAsThieves>	but doesnt come out
Feb 26 20:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Feb 26 20:12:14 <ThickAsThieves>	well
Feb 26 20:12:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess it still comes out somewhere
Feb 26 20:12:31 <ThickAsThieves>	at least these days
Feb 26 20:12:43 <ThickAsThieves>	whatever thing you buy was probably paid to make with fiat
Feb 26 20:12:48 <Eduard_Munteanu>	For example, here they tax *every* profitable transaction by 16%. Not at the end of the year, or the month, but as soon as it happens.
Feb 26 20:12:56 <ThickAsThieves>	but still a lot less tax being collected
Feb 26 20:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	where's "here" ?
Feb 26 20:13:26 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: BVB, the stock market
Feb 26 20:13:41 <Eduard_Munteanu>	It's pretty messed up.
Feb 26 20:13:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i do wish US taxes were simpler and closer to a flat tax
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Feb 26 20:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea, haven't followed that since the late 90s
Feb 26 20:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	but that notwithstanding, btc and btc stocks have nothing to do with fiat rules and fiat definitions.
Feb 26 20:14:16 <ThickAsThieves>	so what does a government do to get the tax they need?
Feb 26 20:14:19 <ThickAsThieves>	adopt btc?
Feb 26 20:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves that'd be their problem.
Feb 26 20:14:34 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Let's just say I might break even on gold after losing quite a bit of money on the stock market.
Feb 26 20:14:48 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Not particularly hit by the crisis, but my trades weren't exactly great.
Feb 26 20:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu if that thing ain't rigged i'm a girl and don't even know about it.\
Feb 26 20:15:54 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Perhaps, besides BVB is sort of a joke market compared to other similar stuff.
Feb 26 20:16:13 <mircea_popescu>	right. i don't understand why anyone'd bother, other than to hedge speciffic risks
Feb 26 20:16:23 <mircea_popescu>	get a grown-up acct in ny or w/e
Feb 26 20:16:24 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I'd much rather do forex. Haven't tried Sibex though.
Feb 26 20:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	this is like getting .ro domains srsly.
Feb 26 20:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	nobody sane would be involved.
Feb 26 20:16:56 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Heh, yeah.
Feb 26 20:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	you wanna trade forex, get an account on the actual market
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Feb 26 20:17:48 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: I went through some random trader from US, the only thing I complain is the huge leverage
Feb 26 20:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	why trade bizarre illiquid shit... i mean, mpex and bvb are not exactly the same size, but not exactly that far off.
Feb 26 20:17:59 <Eduard_Munteanu>	forex.com IITC
Feb 26 20:18:10 <Eduard_Munteanu>	*IIRC
Feb 26 20:18:35 <mircea_popescu>	is forex.com legit ?
Feb 26 20:18:45 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Yes, I could literally influence the market on BVB, even on certain Cat I securities.
Feb 26 20:19:33 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, never heard of em. use schwab or edward jones or w/e
Feb 26 20:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	something that exists
Feb 26 20:19:52 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: yes, it worked fine for me
Feb 26 20:20:14 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I didn't put a lot of money in it, a few hundred dollars.
Feb 26 20:21:03 <mircea_popescu>	a well
Feb 26 20:21:11 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Stuff like USD/gold or USD/CHF is nice, but the leverage is a bit too high IMO. E.g. if you're betting on US inflating their money supply.
Feb 26 20:21:41 <mircea_popescu>	you don't HAVE to use leverage you don't want now do you
Feb 26 20:21:55 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Yeah, you can trade less.
Feb 26 20:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Feb 26 20:22:59 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Actually yeah, dunno why I said that. :)
Feb 26 20:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol k
Feb 26 20:23:33 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I actually did something like that at some point. Though I'd lose patience and go with more bucks at it, perhaps that was it. :D
Feb 26 20:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	ya well discipline matters.
Feb 26 20:24:09 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Luckily it's all stop-loss and you can't end up in debt, AFAIR.
Feb 26 20:24:43 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I suspect you might need something like that to short safely on BTCs.
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Feb 26 20:25:26 <dub>	sup atlas
Feb 26 20:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	bithub = atlas ?!
Feb 26 20:25:50 <dub>	surely Eduard_Munteanu is
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Feb 26 20:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	o ya think ?
Feb 26 20:26:25 <BitHub>	cheers for the divs mircea :)
Feb 26 20:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu zi bre, care-i diferenta intre o pisica alba si-una neagra ?
Feb 26 20:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	dub maybe so.
Feb 26 20:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub hehe enjoy.
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Feb 26 20:45:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.06093, Best ask: 31.20001, Bid-ask spread: 0.13908, Last trade: 31.20001, 24 hour volume: 42934.80821886, 24 hour low: 30.11710, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.04091
Feb 26 20:45:19 <Bowjob>	crash
Feb 26 20:45:30 <aethero>	Yeah a fall to 31.2 is a crash lol
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Feb 26 20:46:02 <Bowjob>	it as 31.6 earlier lol
Feb 26 20:46:07 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: heh, no, I don't think I know that one
Feb 26 20:46:19 <Eduard_Munteanu>	dub: hm?
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Feb 26 20:47:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
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Feb 26 20:50:03 <Chaang-Noi>	so no high yet, hmmm
Feb 26 20:50:08 <Chaang-Noi>	bulls wake up!
Feb 26 20:50:20 <Bowjob>	nope crash time
Feb 26 20:50:49 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah it cvould crash all the way to $31
Feb 26 20:50:51 <ThickAsThieves>	watch out
Feb 26 20:50:58 <Chaang-Noi>	anything over $20 would just be a correction anyway:)
Feb 26 20:53:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 665 @ 0.00634999 = 4.2227 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 20:57:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Feb 26 21:00:24 <BitHub>	Hey guys, you can now talk to BitHub directly from our site, I know wow real time customer service, who knew.
Feb 26 21:01:35 <kakobrekla>	what is your site?
Feb 26 21:13:09 <thestringpuller>	bithub.com?
Feb 26 21:14:09 <BitHub>	bithub.com.au
Feb 26 21:15:34 <thestringpuller>	your icon is broken
Feb 26 21:15:59 <thestringpuller>	also weird name: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=29588.0
Feb 26 21:16:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol @ last 2 posts there
Feb 26 21:17:27 <mod6>	heheh, telling this whole room of people about bitcoin...
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Feb 26 21:17:37 <mod6>	has caused quite the discussion on currency and dollars.
Feb 26 21:18:31 <mod6>	i'll tell you guys more later. but this is pretty cool conversation over here. people are really receptive to btc -- and these people totally non-technical.
Feb 26 21:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136192804573.jpg random person upon hearing "Bitcoin"
Feb 26 21:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	tru story.
Feb 26 21:19:32 <kakobrekla>	mod6 ??
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Feb 26 21:19:49 <kakobrekla>	indian malarkey?
Feb 26 21:19:59 <mod6>	kakobrekla: these are the guys who are involved with the legalized casino gaming in minnesota.
Feb 26 21:20:17 <kakobrekla>	aha
Feb 26 21:20:20 <mod6>	haha, nice mircea_popescu
Feb 26 21:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Feb 26 21:21:04 <mod6>	i passed around .1 BTC on a paper wallet, that was the basic reaction ;)
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Feb 26 21:21:33 <kakobrekla>	is that pic i want to get fucked by or for btc?
Feb 26 21:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	you know, i should probably do a buncha Bank of MPEx paper btc notes
Feb 26 21:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla it's "stfu and take my maidenhood"
Feb 26 21:21:59 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like money but for girls ?
Feb 26 21:21:59 <mod6>	that'd be sweet!
Feb 26 21:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	hm, any designers in da house ?
Feb 26 21:22:25 <mod6>	brb, these guys are having a full argument about cash and what the fed does and how in debt/fucked we are...
Feb 26 21:22:35 <aethero>	mod6 who?
Feb 26 21:22:47 <mod6>	some homies
Feb 26 21:22:54 <kakobrekla>	i know how to turn on photoshop
Feb 26 21:23:04 <mod6>	or do you mean who's fucked aethero?
Feb 26 21:23:04 <kakobrekla>	its double click on that blue PS
Feb 26 21:23:09 <aethero>	Who's fucked
Feb 26 21:23:11 <mod6>	if you mean who, i mean the world
Feb 26 21:23:26 <mod6>	or more directly, the us.
Feb 26 21:23:37 <aethero>	The who?
Feb 26 21:23:41 <mod6>	so we're talkin about what's really taking place.
Feb 26 21:23:43 <aethero>	You?
Feb 26 21:23:47 <mod6>	wat
Feb 26 21:23:51 <mod6>	dude.
Feb 26 21:23:52 <aethero>	"the us"
Feb 26 21:23:58 <aethero>	who's "us"?
Feb 26 21:24:00 <mod6>	The United States of Amerika
Feb 26 21:24:15 <aethero>	I dont know Amerika
Feb 26 21:24:41 <aethero>	I know America. And U.S. ;)
Feb 26 21:24:41 <kakobrekla>	its mostly jesus and meth.
Feb 26 21:24:42 <thestringpuller>	a bank that doesn't lend money eh popescu?
Feb 26 21:24:46 <mod6>	lol stop trollin me
Feb 26 21:24:51 <mod6>	i gotta get back to it.
Feb 26 21:24:55 <mod6>	bbl
Feb 26 21:25:20 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: lends me 1 million BTC
Feb 26 21:25:46 <BitHub>	lul stringpuller
Feb 26 21:25:48 <BitHub>	funny link
Feb 26 21:27:32 <DeadWeasel>	so, fellas, think we go down from there for a while?  or rally this week?
Feb 26 21:28:24 <DeadWeasel>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zi1gMACDzi2gStochRSIzi3gCOscillatorzi4gCOscillatorzv
Feb 26 21:28:42 <DeadWeasel>	macd looks off
Feb 26 21:28:55 <DeadWeasel>	to my untrained eyes
Feb 26 21:29:20 <DeadWeasel>	but instincts curious what anyone else sees
Feb 26 21:29:46 <DeadWeasel>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zi1gMACDzi2gStochRSIzi3gCOscillatorzi4gRSIzv
Feb 26 21:30:07 <DeadWeasel>	does it even mean anything?
Feb 26 21:31:35 <Bugpowder>	I doubt it
Feb 26 21:32:19 <DeadWeasel>	reason or feeling?
Feb 26 21:32:56 <DeadWeasel>	instinct is a bastard mutant of those two.
Feb 26 21:33:02 <DeadWeasel>	and is an acceptable answer
Feb 26 21:33:27 <DeadWeasel>	;;slap deadweasel
Feb 26 21:33:28 *	gribble slaps deadweasel with a rent GPG key
Feb 26 21:33:38 <DeadWeasel>	that was heavier than expected
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Feb 26 21:39:08 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Feb 26 21:39:25 <kakobrekla>	stop with the useless slaps
Feb 26 21:39:25 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 26 21:39:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.10002, Best ask: 31.18000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 31.18000, 24 hour volume: 43378.82060481, 24 hour low: 30.11710, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.05179
Feb 26 21:39:32 <kakobrekla>	too much noise
Feb 26 21:40:31 <kakobrekla>	you can pm gribble and slap yourself there if you really wanna
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Feb 26 21:42:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
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Feb 26 21:43:39 <asshat>	my bad
Feb 26 21:43:47 <asshat>	sorry
Feb 26 21:44:37 <mod6>	alot of these guys in here are very wealthy, and haha, bitcoin and this discussion is scaring the shit out of them
Feb 26 21:44:45 <mod6>	talk about all-time complacentcy
Feb 26 21:45:12 <mod6>	more in a bit...
Feb 26 21:48:38 <dub>	http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_oY05tYId38J:blog.glbse.com/no-electronic-devices+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz&client=firefox-a
Feb 26 21:48:58 <dub>	I know its a bit late for this but.. what a fucking idiot
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Feb 26 21:54:26 <kakobrekla>	yup
Feb 26 21:54:40 <kakobrekla>	prolly the last ppl you want to mention btc to
Feb 26 21:55:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 10 @ 0.14012133 = 1.4012 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 22:05:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 298 @ 0.00196499 = 0.5856 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 22:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 92 @ 0.00634999 = 0.5842 BTC [-]
Feb 26 22:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00075894 = 0.5844 BTC [+]
Feb 26 22:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 220 @ 0.00634999 = 1.397 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 22:17:04 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 26 22:17:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.11011, Best ask: 31.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08988, Last trade: 31.19999, 24 hour volume: 42530.67594311, 24 hour low: 30.11710, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.07588
Feb 26 22:22:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.6749 = 8.0988 BTC [-]
Feb 26 22:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.6749 = 8.7737 BTC [-]
Feb 26 22:24:11 <Bowjob>	what is this meme about some old people going crazy about an idea
Feb 26 22:24:27 <Bowjob>	the old people i assume are businessmen
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Feb 26 22:26:39 <Bowjob>	http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/408229
Feb 26 22:26:43 <Bowjob>	idk what its called
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Feb 26 22:46:48 <Bowjob>	guys, BFL wafers are real!
Feb 26 22:46:49 <Bowjob>	http://img.tradeindia.com/fp/0/237/332.jpg
Feb 26 22:47:45 <dub>	needs moar clock buffer
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Feb 26 23:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-26/alternative-currency-goes-mainstream-bitcoin-atms-emerge
Feb 26 23:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	person actually thinks the 50 bux wordpress charged for a domain reg is why btc doubled.
Feb 26 23:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	"BitCoin, brought to you by the same power elite who own the money printing industry.
Feb 26 23:05:28 <mircea_popescu>	Can you PHYSICALLY HOLD BITCOINS IN YOUR HAND?"
Feb 26 23:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	pretty great collection of idiots.
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Feb 26 23:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7985 @ 0.00074743 = 5.9682 BTC [-]
Feb 26 23:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074742 = 3.7371 BTC [-]
Feb 26 23:13:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4101 @ 0.00074741 = 3.0651 BTC [-]
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Feb 26 23:27:16 <kakobrekla>	ok
Feb 26 23:27:22 <kakobrekla>	so i bought btc with ripples
Feb 26 23:27:24 <kakobrekla>	on the market
Feb 26 23:27:26 <kakobrekla>	sent to stamp
Feb 26 23:27:30 <kakobrekla>	all the money is gone!
Feb 26 23:27:33 <kakobrekla>	lol
Feb 26 23:27:59 <kakobrekla>	ah
Feb 26 23:28:02 <kakobrekla>	now its here
Feb 26 23:28:04 <kakobrekla>	damn
Feb 26 23:28:13 <kakobrekla>	it accually works
Feb 26 23:34:07 <kakobrekla>	well got about 0.6 out of that
Feb 26 23:34:29 <kakobrekla>	so meh
Feb 26 23:34:31 <kakobrekla>	but it works.
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Feb 26 23:43:41 <Namworld>	Ripple? I don't understand how it works, not really any instructions
Feb 26 23:44:05 <kakobrekla>	dunno its fucked
Feb 26 23:44:14 <kakobrekla>	i just clicked a lot of buttons
Feb 26 23:44:20 <kakobrekla>	did a few hax
Feb 26 23:44:29 <kakobrekla>	and btc poped out
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Feb 26 23:45:15 <kakobrekla>	its not that i dont belive that the price of that shit will go up, just not as much as btc.
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Feb 27 00:01:18 <jcpham>	i just like saying ripple
Feb 27 00:01:24 <jcpham>	it creates buzz
Feb 27 00:11:25 <jcpham>	http://asportinginterest.blogspot.ca/2013/02/bitcoin-liquidity-revisited-save.html
Feb 27 00:11:28 <jcpham>	good read
Feb 27 00:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	"Recently I wrote about how the viability of bitcoin was limited by the risk of total, sudden liquidity collapse . The argument can be summarized as saying that without institutions whose business is transacted in it, bitcoin suffers from a bootstrapping problem whereby a crack in the crypto scheme would create an instant wave of counterfeit and debasement. Since there is no entity to restore trust in the currency with
Feb 27 00:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	 a guarantee, e.g. no central bank or government to offer a sovereign guarantee, a crack would make bitcoin illiquid and worthless. "
Feb 27 00:16:08 <mircea_popescu>	that is the stupidest thing i read today
Feb 27 00:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	for srsly now.
Feb 27 00:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	first off, a crack would make bitcoin useless to begin with.
Feb 27 00:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	second off, it's not illiquid.
Feb 27 00:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	third off, what ?!
Feb 27 00:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	this person does not belong writing.
Feb 27 00:17:27 <maximian>	and the presence of a bitcoin casino doesn't make an abandoned/cracked bitcoin system viable again
Feb 27 00:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 27 00:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, if god himself guaranteed a cracked currency
Feb 27 00:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	it'd still be worthless
Feb 27 00:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12543 @ 0.00074124 = 9.2974 BTC [-]
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Feb 27 00:20:13 <BTC4amazon-Away>	;;seen evoorhees
Feb 27 00:20:14 <gribble>	evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 6 hours, 46 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <evoorhees> perfect
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Feb 27 00:28:07 <jcpham>	you didn't like my link mircea_popescu
Feb 27 00:28:15 <jcpham>	dude i bring quality material
Feb 27 00:32:47 <mod6>	(18:54) < kakobrekla> prolly the last ppl you want to mention btc to
Feb 27 00:33:35 <mod6>	maybe so. but after talking to 'em and answering questions for 2 hours they're getting it.
Feb 27 00:33:56 <mod6>	they love what MPEx is, and we talked about bitbet for a while and how that works...
Feb 27 00:34:06 <mod6>	this is turning out pretty well.
Feb 27 00:34:16 <kakobrekla>	i was talking about dubs link
Feb 27 00:34:21 <kakobrekla>	nefario talking to us customs
Feb 27 00:34:28 <kakobrekla>	not about you mod6
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Feb 27 00:35:28 <mod6>	oh sorry.
Feb 27 00:37:21 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	im setting up another bitcoin server and I can't find the default bitcoin.conf on debian squeeze
Feb 27 00:37:41 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	not the user dir but the default location when it installs
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Feb 27 00:37:49 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	anyone know where it is?
Feb 27 00:37:53 <mod6>	its not ~/.bitcoin ?
Feb 27 00:38:11 <kakobrekla>	i think so too
Feb 27 00:38:12 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	nope not in ~
Feb 27 00:38:20 <mod6>	hmm
Feb 27 00:38:35 <mod6>	just do like `find / -name "bitcoin.conf"`
Feb 27 00:38:42 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	im looking for the default file not the user file
Feb 27 00:40:26 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	thats odd
Feb 27 00:40:42 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	it's only finding this /usr/share/doc/bitcoind/examples/bitcoin.conf
Feb 27 00:40:55 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	it can't be using that right now
Feb 27 00:41:06 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	hmmm
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Feb 27 00:50:25 <Ukto>	wow. "[23:19] <mircea_popescu> this person does not belong writing."
Feb 27 00:50:35 <Ukto>	never seen you get so annoyed that your english gets broken :P
Feb 27 00:51:09 <Ukto>	'does not belong writing' is something I expect to read in a chinese manual. :P
Feb 27 00:54:57 <Namworld>	Hey Ukto. Left you PMs
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Feb 27 01:20:27 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: he accidently a word
Feb 27 01:27:28 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto actually it's fine
Feb 27 01:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham in general you do but that one was for the birds
Feb 27 01:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 is the new bitcoin jesus
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Feb 27 02:14:16 <dub>	wh1t3r4bb1t: there is no default bitcoin.conf
Feb 27 02:18:14 <dub>	if you create bintcoin.conf in the datadir it will use that by default
Feb 27 02:18:26 <dub>	bitcoin.conf too
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Feb 27 02:21:33 <Chaang-Noi>	what is this ?     <kakobrekla> nefario talking to us customs
Feb 27 02:21:52 <Chaang-Noi>	when he tried to get into usa with no money from china?
Feb 27 02:23:36 <dub>	yeah
Feb 27 02:23:56 <Chaang-Noi>	thought it might have been recent, thanks
Feb 27 02:27:57 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Feb 27 02:27:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.02002, Best ask: 31.18998, Bid-ask spread: 0.16996, Last trade: 31.18998, 24 hour volume: 40177.44122778, 24 hour low: 30.22822, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.17512
Feb 27 02:28:29 <BingoBongo>	Guess this is the normal lul before the usual Thursday fireworks
Feb 27 02:33:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00896 BTC [-]
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Feb 27 02:40:57 <Namworld>	Who wants to fill the rest of my BTC-BOND borrowing capacity?
Feb 27 02:41:31 <Chaang-Noi>	are you asking if we want to borrow btc?
Feb 27 02:42:09 <Namworld>	No, I'm borrowing
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Feb 27 02:44:05 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, what rate?
Feb 27 02:44:10 <Chaang-Noi>	link to terms?
Feb 27 02:44:27 <Namworld>	https://btct.co/security/BTC-BOND
Feb 27 02:46:50 <Namworld>	Someone wanted to redeem and it dropped a bit. I'd like to get back some more trading capital.
Feb 27 02:47:00 <Chaang-Noi>	that is like 10% a year?
Feb 27 02:47:12 <Namworld>	10.95%
Feb 27 02:47:44 <Chaang-Noi>	im sure, you are good for it but with all the fails in btc land im going to have to pass
Feb 27 02:47:52 <Chaang-Noi>	glbse was epic fail for me
Feb 27 02:48:08 <Namworld>	Well BTC-BOND survived it.
Feb 27 02:48:27 <Namworld>	This time around I get updated shareholder list regularly at least.
Feb 27 02:48:47 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 27 02:48:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i lost my assets before glbse closed
Feb 27 02:49:01 <BingoBongo>	Isn't BTC_BOND just a mining bond that hedges on other shit and recently pumped their cash on hand up by dumping ASIC MINER
Feb 27 02:49:08 <Chaang-Noi>	10% it is just not worth the risk
Feb 27 02:49:33 <Namworld>	BTC-BOND ain't related to mining.
Feb 27 02:49:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold some asicminer too, but damn, im bullish on that stock
Feb 27 02:50:05 <Namworld>	Bond = Loan
Feb 27 02:50:25 <Namworld>	I did sold some ASICMINER tho. I think many did.
Feb 27 02:50:41 <Namworld>	Price was getting quite high.
Feb 27 02:51:05 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah .4x
Feb 27 02:51:16 <Chaang-Noi>	but man... if bfl fails....
Feb 27 02:51:20 <BingoBongo>	Of course bonds are "loans", but people try weird shit when BTC is involved because the tards aren't quite cut out yet
Feb 27 02:54:33 <Namworld>	Well it's a plain loan.
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Feb 27 03:01:07 <BingoBongo>	They seem to be under their 0.01 face value and have sufficient assets backing them against recall, but what were the abstention votes on your aproval about and would it be too much to ask that all new Bitcoin securities have a clause explicitly stating Usagi is not involved in them
Feb 27 03:06:15 <Namworld>	I can't know why people vote like they do. I have no means to contact them or ask them as the system is anonymous, unless they leave their name with a public comment.
Feb 27 03:06:52 <BingoBongo>	Fair enough.
Feb 27 03:07:03 <Namworld>	And according to my holdings spreadsheet, I don't hold anything related to Usagi at all.
Feb 27 03:07:09 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, you want assets to state usagi is not a part of it?
Feb 27 03:07:17 <Chaang-Noi>	why does he get so much hate? did he scam?
Feb 27 03:07:17 <BingoBongo>	Pretty much
Feb 27 03:07:35 <Namworld>	I guess some people hate Usagi that much.
Feb 27 03:07:40 <BingoBongo>	No, he just makes stupid investments because he knows to much without knowing enough
Feb 27 03:07:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i see
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Feb 27 03:08:57 <Bowjob>	someone won 700 BTC from dice
Feb 27 03:09:05 <Bowjob>	according to the recent winners
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Feb 27 03:09:20 <Namworld>	good for them
Feb 27 03:09:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i fail at btc gambling
Feb 27 03:09:31 <BingoBongo>	For example he advertised his silver fund with a statement that Bitcoin would "correct" downward before it would get pass silver this month. Not a bad guess for someone throwing darts, but too little for someone selling shit by screaming Ito Calculus.
Feb 27 03:13:10 <BingoBongo>	I do wonder what S.DICE could clear if they put shitty dice machines in small town bars
Feb 27 03:13:43 <Chaang-Noi>	wonder if feds would care
Feb 27 03:14:32 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 27 03:14:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.00000, Best ask: 31.08350, Bid-ask spread: 0.08350, Last trade: 31.08350, 24 hour volume: 39753.32652997, 24 hour low: 30.38225, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.19218
Feb 27 03:14:46 <Bowjob>	yup, we crashed
Feb 27 03:15:29 <BingoBongo>	Bowjob, how is a normal vibration in the price rane a crash?
Feb 27 03:15:43 <Namworld>	Anyone thinks price is going to crash? Still short on BTC. Not on the long term tho, strictly for the current situation.
Feb 27 03:16:38 <BingoBongo>	We probably won't know the bottom for this week till Sunday
Feb 27 03:17:22 <BingoBongo>	Only reason this week is so hesitant problably involves the stigma surrounding a record high
Feb 27 03:17:22 <Namworld>	I'm not talking about a bottom for this week... I mean a crash of at least 10 USD/BTC
Feb 27 03:18:11 <BingoBongo>	I don't know if enough people could want to sell to hit down to $10/BTC right now
Feb 27 03:19:01 <Namworld>	Not right now... but I doubt this rally can keep on like that forever.
Feb 27 03:19:28 <Namworld>	It seems most ask was removed on the way up, everyone buying and few selling.
Feb 27 03:20:22 <BingoBongo>	A lot of those asks probably left for sentimental reasons
Feb 27 03:20:52 <Namworld>	and the buying was fueled by news of large providers adding bitcoin for payments.
Feb 27 03:21:10 <BingoBongo>	Wouldn't it  be nice though if this rally ended with a flattening somewhere close to here were bitcoin began a year of being less volatile than silver
Feb 27 03:21:37 <BingoBongo>	providers didn't fuel this rally though
Feb 27 03:22:03 <BingoBongo>	Pirate liquidating before he hits the federal pound me in the ass probably did
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Feb 27 03:22:32 <Bowjob>	wait till we hit appl levels.. btc will be worth a few grand by then
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Feb 27 03:22:59 <Namworld>	I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Feb 27 03:23:30 <BingoBongo>	It will probably be a while, the westerners with money aren't accustomed to scarcity
Feb 27 03:23:51 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: Total worth would be in the billions by then. Probably not going to happen in the foreseeable future.
Feb 27 03:24:10 <Namworld>	I don't see it having a major impact however. When you think about, many providers show multiple payment options. People tend to use the convenient credit card/Paypal option. The other options are ignored when there's a trusted method in front of the others. Why look further?
Feb 27 03:24:12 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: incidentally, terrible nick dude. Almost as bad as ILoveBoobies.
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Feb 27 03:24:49 <Namworld>	Bitcoin is convenient for the seller, but for the buyer who gives transaction volume, they're hard to get and involves costs to convert.
Feb 27 03:24:58 <Namworld>	It's not practical.
Feb 27 03:26:17 <Namworld>	All this adoption by sellers do is open more options for current Bitcoiners, and possibly get a few eyeballs from the news.
Feb 27 03:26:53 <midnightmagic>	One simple exchange account later they can buy all the bitcoins they want.
Feb 27 03:27:59 <Namworld>	It's still not practical. I mean, really, is the consumer market suddenly supposed to move en masse off of Paypal? They almost always side with the buyer and so does their credit card company if the first doesn;t.
Feb 27 03:28:25 <midnightmagic>	Escrow services!
Feb 27 03:28:27 <Namworld>	They'd have to wait for bank transfers, get verified, understand how it works and secure their wallet.
Feb 27 03:29:07 <Namworld>	Bitcoin is not ready for the averager consumer.
Feb 27 03:30:15 <midnightmagic>	We shall elevate them into enlightenment.
Feb 27 03:30:32 <Bowjob>	and get us rich along the wya
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Feb 27 03:31:09 <midnightmagic>	I don't care so much about that part.
Feb 27 03:31:30 <Namworld>	Many are not libertarians and/or don't care about the properties of Bitcoin. They care about practicality.
Feb 27 03:32:17 <midnightmagic>	I'm not sure the definition of "libertarian" even exists outside the U.S.
Feb 27 03:32:29 <Namworld>	I have no idea...
Feb 27 03:33:03 <midnightmagic>	Cash and financial structures already exist to satisfy their practical needs.
Feb 27 03:33:04 <Bowjob>	well i just want to make money.. im not a libertarian or.. whatever the opposite of it is lol
Feb 27 03:33:13 <midnightmagic>	The only reason to use bitcoin is for its properties.
Feb 27 03:33:38 <midnightmagic>	crypto-anarcho-capitalist ftw!
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Feb 27 03:35:23 <dub>	oh fuck off
Feb 27 03:36:18 <Namworld>	Who is that addressed to? I hope it's not the first to ask.
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Feb 27 03:38:44 <midnightmagic>	What's going down, dub?
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Feb 27 03:47:30 <dub>	fucking people
Feb 27 03:49:02 <dub>	pitch black in this office and some shitbeak has fucked the building managment so I cant override it
Feb 27 03:50:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00636 BTC [+]
Feb 27 03:52:06 <midnightmagic>	CALL HIM AT HOME
Feb 27 03:52:08 <Namworld>	Ah, I see.
Feb 27 03:52:23 <Bowjob>	i want to correct to 300k per coin
Feb 27 03:52:25 <Bowjob>	nomnom
Feb 27 03:53:48 <Namworld>	Maybe you could stop dreaming and involve yourself in Bitcoin project and/or learning?
Feb 27 03:53:58 <Namworld>	Odds are it will bring cash faster.
Feb 27 03:55:19 <Namworld>	Dreaming might not get any results.
Feb 27 03:55:24 <Namworld>	and if Bitcoin price rise, you will be even better off to top it.
Feb 27 03:57:38 <Bowjob>	nah you guys can do all of that.. i'll just watch from the sidelines
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Feb 27 04:59:33 <Chaang-Noi>	silkroad happen to sell opium? anyone know?
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Feb 27 05:00:57 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: log in and find out
Feb 27 05:01:12 <Chaang-Noi>	lazy,
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Feb 27 05:02:35 <EskimoBob>	lazy and asks for opium...
Feb 27 05:02:36 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Feb 27 05:02:43 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 27 05:05:31 <EskimoBob>	Chaang-Noi: did you update your ppcoin client?
Feb 27 05:05:37 <Chaang-Noi>	bored and lazy
Feb 27 05:05:46 <Chaang-Noi>	iv never had a ppcoin client, what is going on?
Feb 27 05:05:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i did day trade it but kept the coins at bitparking
Feb 27 05:06:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont have much left, it did not really take off
Feb 27 05:06:43 <Chaang-Noi>	im buying shitloads of ltc however when people dump it
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Feb 27 05:17:31 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 27 05:17:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.21008, Best ask: 31.28000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06992, Last trade: 31.28000, 24 hour volume: 35340.01292573, 24 hour low: 30.80777, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.22960
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Feb 27 05:17:53 <Bowjob>	rally
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Feb 27 05:26:16 <Chaang-Noi>	amphipod> Feb27 10:25:58 mtgox             1.0000 @    21.05       GBP
Feb 27 05:26:20 <Chaang-Noi>	wtf is that bot doing?
Feb 27 05:26:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i see 1000 of these trades
Feb 27 05:26:30 <Chaang-Noi>	all buying?
Feb 27 05:34:13 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Feb27 10:33:25 mtgox    x247 2,045.0000 @    30.92570603 USD
Feb 27 05:34:18 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Feb 27 05:34:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.13938, Best ask: 31.29896, Bid-ask spread: 0.15958, Last trade: 31.29996, 24 hour volume: 37768.96982673, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.21423
Feb 27 05:34:41 <Chaang-Noi>	recovered quickly
Feb 27 05:34:51 <Diablo-D3>	man
Feb 27 05:34:54 <Diablo-D3>	even my typos are racist
Feb 27 05:35:16 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 27 05:35:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.14425, Best ask: 31.24267, Bid-ask spread: 0.09842, Last trade: 31.24267, 24 hour volume: 37757.49345071, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.21427
Feb 27 05:35:41 <Bowjob>	crash
Feb 27 05:35:53 <Diablo-D3>	[05:31:59] <Diablo-D3> in other words, I probably could gook the appropriate pins up to a power supply and it'd probably work
Feb 27 05:36:40 <Diablo-D3>	gook, v., to niggerrig and rice something at the same time
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Feb 27 05:43:13 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	What if I told you I could guarantee you a 10% increase on your Bitcoin investment per annum?
Feb 27 05:43:58 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	10% increased return that is.
Feb 27 05:44:06 <Bowjob>	how
Feb 27 05:44:32 <Diablo-D3>	what if I told you I could guarantee a 10.5% increase?
Feb 27 05:45:07 <Bowjob>	screw that. i guarantee 1% per day
Feb 27 05:46:03 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	Proprietary trading formulas applied to mutual fund development in companies that support Bitcoin transactions supplemented by mining and Bitcoin trading
Feb 27 05:46:15 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: now thats not fair, Im going to have to do math
Feb 27 05:46:32 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: 37.8% annually
Feb 27 05:46:53 <Bowjob>	..that is no where near the number
Feb 27 05:47:19 <Diablo-D3>	what, 1.01 ** 365?
Feb 27 05:47:27 <Bowjob>	no
Feb 27 05:48:24 <Bowjob>	A = P(1+r/n)^nt
Feb 27 05:48:32 <Anduck>	well
Feb 27 05:48:46 <Anduck>	send btc to my addr and there's a slight chance u will get it all back
Feb 27 05:48:58 <Anduck>	any takers??
Feb 27 05:49:03 <Anduck>	fastest hand wins!!
Feb 27 05:49:32 <Bowjob>	i can do that too. 10% increase, but theres a 20% chance it will fail
Feb 27 05:50:00 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: wow
Feb 27 05:50:00 <Bowjob>	.. i mean you're 80% likely to win, so you'll probably win anwyay
Feb 27 05:50:08 <Bowjob>	what could go wrong
Feb 27 05:50:10 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 27 05:50:12 <Diablo-D3>	I'll do 100%, but 99% likely to fail
Feb 27 05:53:19 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	10% is a better guarantee than you'll ever see on a 1 year term investment.
Feb 27 05:53:35 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	You find me a better deal in writing and I'll match it.
Feb 27 05:53:44 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	You won't.
Feb 27 05:53:53 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	But try for the rest of your life.
Feb 27 05:53:58 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	;)
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Feb 27 05:54:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00074618 = 7.611 BTC [+]
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Feb 27 06:12:25 <EskimoBob>	"wh1t3r4bb1t | Proprietary trading formulas applied to mutual..." - LOL
Feb 27 06:12:26 <EskimoBob>	sure
Feb 27 06:13:52 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	Proprietary trading formulas applied to Bitcoin trading with mutual fund development in companies that support Bitcoin transactions supplemented by mining. Sorry I'm tired.
Feb 27 06:14:19 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	Anyways laugh all you want.
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Feb 27 06:15:32 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	I'm the one with the proprietary formulas, you're just a person making comments in a chat.
Feb 27 06:15:44 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	You do the math.
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Feb 27 06:25:08 <pigeons>	haha
Feb 27 06:33:33 <Diablo-D3>	meh namworld isnt here
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Feb 27 06:34:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i need a boat...
Feb 27 06:35:17 <Diablo-D3>	a boat for a goat?
Feb 27 06:36:45 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Feb 27 06:36:59 <Chaang-Noi>	last one sunk
Feb 27 06:40:00 <EskimoBob>	wh1t3r4bb1t: "just a person making comments in a chat" not sure are you talking about yourself or me?
Feb 27 06:40:53 <EskimoBob>	btc forum is full of those "formula" guys. So far none has delivered
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Feb 27 06:41:32 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Feb 27 06:41:39 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Feb 27 06:42:15 <EskimoBob>	i guess the formula failed it's simplest test "give me some proof"
Feb 27 06:46:10 <pigeons>	neither have any of them in the real world
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Feb 27 07:01:23 <EskimoBob>	I have this "proprietary formula" in my head and it's called 'common sense
Feb 27 07:02:57 <EskimoBob>	I guess "Proprietary trading formula blaa blaa" is expected to somehow remove it
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Feb 27 07:07:54 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons the good ones are secret :)
Feb 27 07:09:11 <pigeons>	i dont even get to prove to anyone that even the "secret" ones are bs, cause they come up with some other excuse why they lost all their money
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Feb 27 07:26:47 <Chaang-Noi>	some one has to make money pigeons, even if it is luck:)
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Feb 27 07:31:00 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Feb27 12:30:38 btcde             0.1000 @    41.00       EUR
Feb 27 07:31:02 <Chaang-Noi>	????????
Feb 27 07:31:15 <Chaang-Noi>	that is really high right?
Feb 27 07:31:46 <JWU42>	yes
Feb 27 07:32:18 <JWU42>	[06:31] <amphipod> Feb27 12:31:34 btcde             1.0000 @    23.55       EUR
Feb 27 07:32:25 <JWU42>	that was next trade
Feb 27 07:32:30 <JWU42>	seems something is fubar
Feb 27 07:32:30 <Chaang-Noi>	odd
Feb 27 07:42:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.28001 = 0.56 BTC [-]
Feb 27 07:42:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [-]
Feb 27 07:54:11 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 27 07:54:12 <gribble>	1 BTC = 30.80020 U.S. dollars = 23.56557 Euros
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Feb 27 08:04:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 23 @ 0.00634999 = 0.146 BTC [-]
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Feb 27 08:19:44 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 27 08:19:44 <gribble>	1 BTC = 30.84005 U.S. dollars = 23.5960597 Euros
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Feb 27 08:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 27 08:35:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.08945, Best ask: 31.12948, Bid-ask spread: 0.04003, Last trade: 31.08945, 24 hour volume: 33052.15782040, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 31.15151
Feb 27 08:35:27 <mircea_popescu>	what, we crashed again ?
Feb 27 08:37:38 <Chaang-Noi>	crashed?
Feb 27 08:37:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought your english over all was pretty good
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Feb 27 08:40:14 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	bitcoinuser@tyler /usr/bin$ bitcoind getbalance 1361970921224185
Feb 27 08:40:14 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	 17349.26400326
Feb 27 08:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi don't get cheeky.
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Feb 27 08:54:52 <mircea_popescu>	US unemployment merits third round of money printing, says Ben Bernanke
Feb 27 08:56:16 <jurov>	http://bitcoinmagazine.com/coinlab-bringing-bitcoin-to-wall-street-with-mtgox-deal lol i read first sentence and closed the tab
Feb 27 08:56:37 <jurov>	this rarely heppens, i'm fairly bullshit-tolerant
Feb 27 08:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	i thought i was very tolerant
Feb 27 08:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	i had a reputation for such tolerance
Feb 27 08:57:06 <mircea_popescu>	then bitcoin
Feb 27 08:58:36 <pigeons>	i read the url and didnt open it
Feb 27 09:00:01 <jurov>	plus, it's linked from reddit complete with GLBSE logo
Feb 27 09:00:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol reddit
Feb 27 09:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	i guess its still better than the comments section for that zerohedge piece i linked yest
Feb 27 09:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	Subject: Transaction is completed
Feb 27 09:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	X-PHP-Script: vbwojvaixfhhwpfvgbxgjgc.uncw.edu/sendmail.php for 194.78.197.113
Feb 27 09:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	From: "Payment notification system" <shadxx@gmail.com>
Feb 27 09:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	uncw should get no grants in 2013
Feb 27 09:06:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.00071 = 0.0178 BTC [+]
Feb 27 09:06:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9975 @ 0.0007 = 6.9825 BTC [-]
Feb 27 09:11:57 <pigeons>	where is that email form
Feb 27 09:12:04 <pigeons>	from
Feb 27 09:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	some spammer
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Feb 27 09:27:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00636999 = 6.37 BTC [+]
Feb 27 09:27:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00637 = 25.48 BTC [+]
Feb 27 09:27:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.66 = 19.8 BTC [-]
Feb 27 09:27:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.65 = 3.25 BTC [-]
Feb 27 09:27:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [-]
Feb 27 09:29:28 <topace>	mircea_popescu: any idea what "validity" values are, in reference to a gpg signature verification?  when i use php's gnupg_verify() i get either validity=4 (for valid signature) or validity=0 (for invalid signature)
Feb 27 09:29:55 <topace>	i can't just assume that anything >0 is valid.... i need to be sure i know what it means
Feb 27 09:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	mmm
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Feb 27 09:30:58 <mircea_popescu>	iirc the way to use that function is set checksig to false and then see if it returns the fingerprint
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Feb 27 09:32:07 <topace>	it returns an array: {"fingerprint":"8DDE8C2B4DE2278A95C3D65B9214FC6BF1B69921","validity":4,"timestamp":1361385050,"status":0,"summary":3}
Feb 27 09:32:32 <topace>	or if invalid: {"fingerprint":"9214FC6BF1B69921","validity":0,"timestamp":0,"status":117440520,"summary":4}
Feb 27 09:32:52 <topace>	so fingerprint is always returned, but its the key id instead of the fingerprint if the signature is invalid
Feb 27 09:37:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00637989 = 12.7598 BTC [+]
Feb 27 09:37:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0063799 = 19.1397 BTC [+]
Feb 27 09:37:38 <jurov>	looks like you'll have too use the sauce
Feb 27 09:38:08 <jurov>	where do the calues come from
Feb 27 09:38:12 <jurov>	*values
Feb 27 09:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	topace so then fingerprint is NOT always returned
Feb 27 09:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	as in keyid != fingerprint
Feb 27 09:39:19 <topace>	jurov: they come from the array that gnupg_verify() returns
Feb 27 09:40:12 <topace>	mircea_popescu: right, so, if strlen(fingerprint)>15 then its a valid signature? sounds sloppy
Feb 27 09:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	not at all
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Feb 27 09:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	if returned_fingerprint == expected fingerprint then valid
Feb 27 09:43:22 <topace>	okay and you're 100% positive that is enough to confirm a signature validity?
Feb 27 09:44:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Feb 27 09:44:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.643 = 5.144 BTC [-]
Feb 27 09:44:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.6420001 = 12.84 BTC [-]
Feb 27 09:44:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.642 = 8.346 BTC [-]
Feb 27 09:45:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.641 = 1.923 BTC [-]
Feb 27 09:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.633 = 2.532 BTC [-]
Feb 27 09:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.632 BTC [-]
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Feb 27 09:55:15 <kakobrekla>	.
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Feb 27 10:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	topace nope. i've never used the php library
Feb 27 10:04:52 <mircea_popescu>	and since we're on the topic, i dunno how well it was tested, if you use it you'd prolly be well advised to protect it from buffer overflows etc
Feb 27 10:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	(limit the size message that goes in for instance)
Feb 27 10:05:24 <topace>	hmm k. yea, im already doing some basic sanity checks before the call
Feb 27 10:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	i'd guess whoever implemented it did it more for show than for banking.
Feb 27 10:09:35 <kakobrekla>	mpoe weekly
Feb 27 10:09:36 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/3f/wy/e602XO/mpoe.jpg
Feb 27 10:11:21 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/2Y/Wf/3qSHcn8W/bitbet.jpg
Feb 27 10:11:23 <kakobrekla>	bitbet daily
Feb 27 10:11:29 <kakobrekla>	bullish ;>>
Feb 27 10:13:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 2 @ 0.13944319 = 0.2789 BTC [-]
Feb 27 10:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	ponzi!
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Feb 27 10:14:26 <Bugpowder>	x diff gap narrowing
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Feb 27 10:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	what they got now, two weeks or so ?
Feb 27 10:16:53 <Bugpowder>	22 days
Feb 27 10:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	3 ya k
Feb 27 10:18:59 <mircea_popescu>	i think what happens is that 1 month = furthest future point in bitcoin
Feb 27 10:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0063799 = 0.319 BTC [+]
Feb 27 10:19:38 <mircea_popescu>	nobody plans further than hm
Feb 27 10:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	whoa.
Feb 27 10:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	do you suppose we can say that since everyone involved lives paycheck to paycheck
Feb 27 10:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	that's the furthest they can think ahead ?
Feb 27 10:20:29 <Bugpowder>	you can't argue that and also argue that the rise is not driven by the reddit/coinbase crowd
Feb 27 10:20:29 <kakobrekla>	paycheck, what is dat?
Feb 27 10:20:45 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 32
Feb 27 10:20:47 <gribble>	There are currently 22183.421 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 705987.683892 USD in total.
Feb 27 10:20:59 <Bugpowder>	jezzzus
Feb 27 10:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder unfortunately.
Feb 27 10:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	course possibly a workable model would show people buying that know business, people with large stashes that just happened by at the right time
Feb 27 10:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	after all, any tech liquidity event is geeks selling out to business people.
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Feb 27 10:23:50 <Bugpowder>	Any thoughts on the coinlab story?  It's not clear from the wording that they actually ARE buying / HAVE BOUGHT mtgox's US book or they are just TRYING to buy the book and have achieved absolutely nothing.
Feb 27 10:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the later.
Feb 27 10:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	not only is mtgox not selling, but who is coinbase again ?
Feb 27 10:24:52 <Bugpowder>	coinlab
Feb 27 10:24:57 <gigavps>	Bugpowder they are going to be mtgox's us broker essentially
Feb 27 10:25:21 <Bugpowder>	Are they?  Or are they just leaking some hype to a reporter with no actual deal
Feb 27 10:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder my point is more alongthe lines, there's about five or six of other corps doing what they do.
Feb 27 10:25:47 <gigavps>	they are "pivoting"
Feb 27 10:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that unlike the competition they have a burn rate is NOT an advantage.
Feb 27 10:26:26 <gigavps>	guess they found out that HPC work with integer maffs isn't profitable
Feb 27 10:27:47 <Bugpowder>	" The goal is to move customers’ money from overseas to Silicon Valley Bank by March 22nd."   Like by starting a new way to deposit and stealing the future international wire action, or actually pulling all the existing deposits from Japan/HK to a US bank.  Anyone have an interview transcript?
Feb 27 10:28:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you ever heard of something like this released other than as a joint item ?
Feb 27 10:28:36 <Bugpowder>	nope
Feb 27 10:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox is silent. nothing happened.
Feb 27 10:28:44 <Bugpowder>	"goal"
Feb 27 10:28:54 <mircea_popescu>	other than remarkably incompetent trade mag and remarkably incompetent coinlab pr person.
Feb 27 10:28:59 <Bugpowder>	"has worked for a year to sign an exclusive long term deal"
Feb 27 10:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	i've been working for twelve years to fuck tea leoni.
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Feb 27 10:30:23 <Bugpowder>	heh
Feb 27 10:30:33 <Bugpowder>	you may have enough bitcoins to make it happen
Feb 27 10:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	i prefer working at it by now.
Feb 27 10:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the way i read it a deal is not even close.
Feb 27 10:33:14 <Bugpowder>	I concur
Feb 27 10:33:15 <mircea_popescu>	if it were you wouldn't be pissing the op off with statements of the kind
Feb 27 10:33:33 <mircea_popescu>	prolly what happened is they finally got told to take a hike, and are trying to extrac whatever from it
Feb 27 10:34:24 <Bugpowder>	looks like VC-style hype trying to create an illusion of success, hopefully leading to actual success.
Feb 27 10:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	but on the negative side, if coinbase tech competence is anything like their pr ability,
Feb 27 10:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	they'll be the next large hack
Feb 27 10:35:26 <mircea_popescu>	at any rate they're running out of money this year, so... meh.
Feb 27 10:40:16 <Bugpowder>	coinbase ~= coinlab
Feb 27 10:41:47 <Bugpowder>	does not inspire confidence   http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jonmatonis/files/2012/10/coinlab-founders.jpg
Feb 27 10:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	not young enough ?
Feb 27 10:42:39 <Bugpowder>	They look dumb in the face
Feb 27 10:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	not jewish enough ?
Feb 27 10:43:57 <ThickAsThieves>	too "where's my mai tai" looking
Feb 27 10:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, my boeuf bourguignon  smells done. back later!
Feb 27 10:44:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Feb 27 10:44:59 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4406669.35421 based on data since last change | 4323557.47279 based on data for last three days
Feb 27 10:45:01 <Bugpowder>	Also this story mentions several possible business plans, none of which are related to the current story  http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/04/24/coinlab-attracts-500000-in-venture-capital-for-bitcoin-projects/
Feb 27 10:45:26 <Bugpowder>	So that shows they have some money but no focus.  They are likely a zero.
Feb 27 10:46:05 <Bugpowder>	Never match your hat pattern to your shirt pattern
Feb 27 10:47:06 <ThickAsThieves>	"All your gamers are gold" ??
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Feb 27 10:51:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
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Feb 27 11:02:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.684 = 1.368 BTC [+]
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Feb 27 11:15:28 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Feb 27 11:15:31 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223435 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 340 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 15 hours, 36 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4409373.22265 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.77127
Feb 27 11:15:43 <kakobrekla>	aha now we are getting somewhere
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Feb 27 11:18:17 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	Yup
Feb 27 11:29:02 <pigeons>	i declare today ridiculous idea link day in honor of coinlab
Feb 27 11:29:09 <pigeons>	http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/26/4031938/new-crowdfunding-platforms-let-you-sell-stock-in-yourself
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Feb 27 11:58:40 <mod6>	yeah, so that ended up going pretty well lastnight.
Feb 27 12:01:18 <mod6>	very lengthy and lively discussion on all things money/econ/bitcoin
Feb 27 12:01:40 <mod6>	cool beans
Feb 27 12:02:33 <ThickAsThieves>	so are they all converted?
Feb 27 12:03:11 <mod6>	haha. not exactly.  but at first the guys who are long paper had some FEAR that they're paper is going to 0.  and rightly so....
Feb 27 12:03:44 <mod6>	but after talking about this for like 3 or 4 hours... they started to understand btc a bit more and what its important
Feb 27 12:04:40 <mod6>	haha, the discussion was HEATED at first... "WHAT IS IT BACKED BY???!!!11" that kinda thing.
Feb 27 12:04:55 <mod6>	there was even talk about the Trillion Dollar Coin for like 20 minutes lol
Feb 27 12:05:47 <mod6>	my whole thing is, "if you think that platnium is $1tn because they need it to hypothicate some new money, what does that say about the price of gold, silver or bitcoin?"
Feb 27 12:05:57 <mod6>	*STARE INTO SPACE*
Feb 27 12:06:09 <mod6>	then they start to see....
Feb 27 12:06:33 <mod6>	one dude outright called me "Crazy" and "a crackhead" lol
Feb 27 12:07:20 <kakobrekla>	Jay Walker, a forex prop trader, said he’d jump to any forex broker deal that would allow him to do currency pair trades and get paid out in bitcoins. This is something the Bitcoin exchanges could do by signing deals with forex broker deals – assuming they get through each country’s regulatory process.
Feb 27 12:07:25 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Feb 27 12:08:05 <mod6>	get him on bit4x kakobrekla
Feb 27 12:09:43 <mod6>	one of the dudes over there has been blowing me up for a few weeks about these avalons.. he wants to buy a few to start to do some mining.. and that turned into a lengthy discussion.
Feb 27 12:09:54 <mod6>	but he said he's gonna contact them etc to see what he can find out lol
Feb 27 12:12:09 <mod6>	i explained the BFL and avalon stuff to them. I think they're pretty sweet on mining. But the online-poker site is something they'd like to see get built.  they own a full legal casino here, so I'm trying to get them to see how this would be awesome for gaming, mainly.
Feb 27 12:15:13 <mod6>	I think they'd be better off funding some iPad-bitcoin-slotmachines
Feb 27 12:16:23 <mod6>	right now when you go into the casino, you can put cash onto your players card -- and when you walk up to a machine you just put your card in.
Feb 27 12:17:40 <mod6>	they're getting less and less business from what I understand,.. the money is drying up quite a bit so gaming has been light
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Feb 27 12:18:18 <mod6>	im sure if they could get something like that going so that people could play their slots from their couch as opposed to driving 40 miles to the casino they'd be happy.
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Feb 27 12:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 830 @ 0.0063799 = 5.2953 BTC [+]
Feb 27 12:24:15 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 27 12:24:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.29001, Best ask: 31.38899, Bid-ask spread: 0.09898, Last trade: 31.38751, 24 hour volume: 29714.39995236, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.39000, 24 hour vwap: 31.12173
Feb 27 12:24:33 <thestringpuller>	more money is about to go into the economy heh
Feb 27 12:25:29 <mod6>	I brought 3 .1 BTC paper wallets with me to pass around, so that gave them something to hold and concider while the discussion was going on... after I left I wanted to kick myself.
Feb 27 12:25:43 <mod6>	I should have just started a live auction for 'em.  Maybe next time.
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Feb 27 12:26:55 <mod6>	This is a good thing though, because if these guys get wholly onboard, bye-bye fake-economy job, hello bitcoin land!
Feb 27 12:28:48 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Feb 27 12:28:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.30000, Best ask: 31.38999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 31.38999, 24 hour volume: 28119.55661008, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.40000, 24 hour vwap: 31.12346
Feb 27 12:29:13 <Chaang-Noi>	;;slap chaang-noi
Feb 27 12:29:14 *	gribble slaps chaang-noi with a stout war cry
Feb 27 12:29:32 <Chaang-Noi>	just what i needed to wake up, thanks gribble
Feb 27 12:29:43 <chmod755>	;;slap Chaang-Noi
Feb 27 12:29:45 *	gribble slaps Chaang-Noi with a steaming up the dead
Feb 27 12:29:54 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Feb 27 12:36:01 <Bicknellski>	;;slap Bicknellski
Feb 27 12:36:02 *	gribble slaps Bicknellski with a burly dead man
Feb 27 12:36:19 <Bicknellski>	glad he was burly
Feb 27 12:39:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [-]
Feb 27 12:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 maybe you should start a blog
Feb 27 12:41:20 <kakobrekla>	hm
Feb 27 12:41:37 <kakobrekla>	would someone be writing for bitcoin-assets.com ?
Feb 27 12:41:59 <kakobrekla>	or its gonna be preetymuch static.
Feb 27 12:44:11 <chmod755>	;;t
Feb 27 12:44:13 <gribble>	New crowdfunding platforms let you sell stock in yourself | The Verge
Feb 27 12:44:25 <chmod755>	O.o
Feb 27 12:44:39 <chmod755>	;;web fetch http://bitcoin-assets.com
Feb 27 12:44:40 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
Feb 27 12:44:43 <chmod755>	:o
Feb 27 12:45:03 <kakobrekla>	is not public yet
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Feb 27 12:48:57 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: wall street deal eminent
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Feb 27 12:49:46 <chmod755>	thestringpuller, wall street deal?....
Feb 27 12:50:38 <Bugpowder>	vaporware
Feb 27 12:50:40 <chmod755>	i'm waiting for mark to say something on the subject before commenting
Feb 27 12:51:15 <Bugpowder>	Bitcoin-assets consensus take : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19boiu/coinlab_bringing_bitcoin_to_wall_street_with/c8mmwbl
Feb 27 12:51:24 <thestringpuller>	lol
Feb 27 12:51:56 <chmod755>	bitcoin is on wall street.... *occupy* wall street....
Feb 27 12:52:00 <chmod755>	lol
Feb 27 12:52:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 27 12:52:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.31365, Best ask: 31.41000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09635, Last trade: 31.42000, 24 hour volume: 28018.45963541, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.42000, 24 hour vwap: 31.12569
Feb 27 12:53:06 <chmod755>	>$40MM << what is $xMM?
Feb 27 12:53:22 <chmod755>	:p
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Feb 27 12:54:00 <chmod755>	mt.gox is still tiny
Feb 27 12:54:23 <thestringpuller>	the price will close at 42 this month
Feb 27 12:54:36 <thestringpuller>	jldklfjs
Feb 27 12:54:57 <chmod755>	;;eightball will the price close at 42 this month?
Feb 27 12:54:58 <gribble>	You know the answer better than I.
Feb 27 12:55:03 <chmod755>	ikr^
Feb 27 12:55:14 <chmod755>	^_^
Feb 27 12:56:08 <Bugpowder>	MM is standard for million
Feb 27 12:56:24 <chmod755>	Bugpowder, oic, i thought it's just 40m
Feb 27 12:56:31 <Bugpowder>	which of you assholes has been downvoting my comment.
Feb 27 12:57:06 *	chmod755 downvotes 'cause you called everyone here asshole^
Feb 27 12:57:21 <chmod755>	:p
Feb 27 12:57:27 <jcpham>	if coinlab doesn't roll out a hpc client, they fail
Feb 27 12:57:33 <jcpham>	their pool hashrate is nil
Feb 27 12:57:37 <chmod755>	lmao 4 downvotes
Feb 27 12:57:42 <Bugpowder>	I only really see MM used as an abbrev for millions in a finance context.
Feb 27 12:58:01 <jcpham>	"I suspect that coinlab has burnt thru most of their funding without having launched any products, and are now desperately trying to get some press for another funding round before they go under."
Feb 27 12:58:15 <jcpham>	IN 2011, miners raped coinlab for 95%
Feb 27 12:58:28 <jcpham>	when the block reward halved, we gamed their PPS until it was unprofitable
Feb 27 12:58:33 <kakobrekla>	its 2013 now
Feb 27 12:58:34 <Bugpowder>	ohhhh
Feb 27 12:58:38 <kakobrekla>	wasnt that 2012
Feb 27 12:58:40 <jcpham>	now it's no longer even profitable to mine there
Feb 27 12:58:53 <jcpham>	even with their bonus PPS
Feb 27 12:59:01 <dub>	I like how the glbse logo
Feb 27 12:59:02 <Bugpowder>	that would be a great nugget for the reddit discorse.
Feb 27 12:59:06 <jcpham>	you lose money mining and their pool hashrate is literally nothing
Feb 27 12:59:28 <jcpham>	they need to release a client that allows gpou miners to get paid
Feb 27 12:59:34 <jcpham>	otherwise they are dead
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Feb 27 13:00:11 <jcpham>	2012 kakobrekla
Feb 27 13:00:15 <jcpham>	u so right
Feb 27 13:00:22 <kakobrekla>	hey i know my years.
Feb 27 13:00:29 <kakobrekla>	years
Feb 27 13:00:34 <jcpham>	that's the year the mayans came
Feb 27 13:00:37 <jcpham>	i'll never forget
Feb 27 13:00:47 <kakobrekla>	you mean went?
Feb 27 13:01:36 <chmod755>	jcpham, yeah, but nobody realized that we all died and the world ended
Feb 27 13:01:54 <jcpham>	satoshi knows
Feb 27 13:02:29 <mod6>	(09:41) < mircea_popescu> mod6 maybe you should start a blog << maybe i do need a new venue for this kinda thing
Feb 27 13:02:55 <jcpham>	i plan to blog the things one day
Feb 27 13:03:08 <mod6>	I'm not much of a writer though.
Feb 27 13:03:17 <jcpham>	i do not, however, intend to charge people "credits" to simply read my words
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Feb 27 13:14:56 <dub>	blog at me bro
Feb 27 13:15:33 <Bugpowder>	only thing worse than a blogger is someone planning on blogging
Feb 27 13:15:37 <dub>	jcpham: do you even blog?
Feb 27 13:16:34 <mod6>	YOU'RE NOT A WRITER, YOU'RE A KILLER!
Feb 27 13:16:54 <jcpham>	not really
Feb 27 13:17:05 <jcpham>	jcph.am is a wordpress blog though
Feb 27 13:17:12 <mod6>	you ever see Full Metal Jacket?
Feb 27 13:17:23 <mod6>	good show
Feb 27 13:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	no srsly, MM is NOT standard for mn.
Feb 27 13:21:06 <kakobrekla>	but we write MIRRION DORRA
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Feb 27 13:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham actually bitcoin magazine is quickly becoming a sort of elephant cemetery
Feb 27 13:21:28 <dub>	I blogged once
Feb 27 13:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	where hype things go to die.
Feb 27 13:22:17 <dub>	I was blogging on geocities when you where crapping in your hands and rubbing it in your face
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Feb 27 13:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	that's unlikely dubsy.
Feb 27 13:23:08 <dub>	dude best gary busey line in a movie ever
Feb 27 13:23:33 <mircea_popescu>	fuck me it's busey. That's unlikely dubsey*
Feb 27 13:23:38 <Bugpowder>	It's not SI, but it is common use in finance.
Feb 27 13:24:02 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 32
Feb 27 13:24:04 <gribble>	There are currently 19178.646 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 611487.663102 USD in total.
Feb 27 13:24:08 <Bugpowder>	shrinkage
Feb 27 13:24:09 <kakobrekla>	http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_709-UY_kyd8/SXk9LNp3hZI/AAAAAAAAACc/IvRE5GG9q1g/s400/you-want-mirron-dollar.jpg
Feb 27 13:24:22 <error4733>	;;asks 31.97
Feb 27 13:24:24 <gribble>	There are currently 15678.665 bitcoins offered at or under 31.97 USD, worth 499487.858446 USD in total.
Feb 27 13:24:28 <jcpham>	dub: http://jcph.am/2013/02/27/do-i-blog/
Feb 27 13:24:39 <dub>	;;t
Feb 27 13:24:40 <gribble>	do i blog? | jcph.am
Feb 27 13:26:28 <mod6>	lol geocities
Feb 27 13:27:03 <dub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS_6mR82eQk 0:45
Feb 27 13:27:27 <mod6>	point break is pretty awesome
Feb 27 13:28:42 <Bugpowder>	jcpham: you like MiHKAL's latest mix? https://soundcloud.com/mihkal/th-d-ip
Feb 27 13:29:28 <jcpham>	Bugpowder listening now
Feb 27 13:29:32 <jcpham>	unfamiliar
Feb 27 13:29:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
Feb 27 13:30:12 <jcpham>	i recognize some of the mixes in this set though
Feb 27 13:30:14 <Bugpowder>	I love his older mixes.
Feb 27 13:30:14 <jcpham>	looks like me
Feb 27 13:30:27 <jcpham>	looks like something i'd rock out to
Feb 27 13:31:16 <Bugpowder>	He was more purple music, westcoast midtempo shit with some rapping remix stuff, which sorta presages the latest trap trend really well.
Feb 27 13:31:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Feb 27 13:35:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00629 BTC [-]
Feb 27 13:39:12 <mod6>	4
Feb 27 13:39:26 <mod6>	oh shit. random acts of cat.
Feb 27 13:40:21 <dub>	I'll say it again, fuck. trap.
Feb 27 13:41:02 <dub>	I take better sounding shits
Feb 27 13:41:32 <mod6>	o.0
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Feb 27 13:49:20 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Any idea when asicminer is going to get listed?
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Feb 27 13:58:19 <ThickAsThieves>	dunno for sure yet Ed, they give status updates on Thursday, I know they intend to put their own exchange up before dividends are due,
Feb 27 13:58:26 <ThickAsThieves>	but who knows
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Feb 27 14:06:52 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 30
Feb 27 14:06:54 <gribble>	There are currently 10156.462 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 311026.132877 USD in total.
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Feb 27 14:18:15 <Bugpowder>	asks are melting
Feb 27 14:18:30 <Bugpowder>	6,000 BTC of asks below 32 disappered in the last 2 hours
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Feb 27 14:28:56 <error4733>	;;asks 31.97
Feb 27 14:28:59 <gribble>	There are currently 13148.162 bitcoins offered at or under 31.97 USD, worth 418585.522518 USD in total.
Feb 27 14:34:07 <dub>	we goin downtown bitch
Feb 27 14:34:42 <dub>	on the station that plays only platinum hits, if you lickin nuts, double you balls
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Feb 27 14:43:55 <aethero>	~1.25 left until next ZIGGAP release on BitFunder
Feb 27 14:45:26 <error4733>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/dbtgallery.php?do=gallery_image&id=588&gal=gallery&type=full
Feb 27 14:45:55 <error4733>	BFL are real !
Feb 27 14:46:03 <error4733>	next year !
Feb 27 14:46:04 <jcpham>	looks like more unfinished work to me
Feb 27 14:46:15 <jcpham>	another picture of work that remains to be done
Feb 27 14:46:31 <Bugpowder>	many things can go wrong in the bumping process.
Feb 27 14:46:53 <error4733>	cant belive they're happy to show a pictures after 9 month
Feb 27 14:47:04 <Bugpowder>	It took our project 9 months and a change of vendors to get our chips properly bumped.
Feb 27 14:47:06 <error4733>	+10 bug
Feb 27 14:47:28 <error4733>	wich one ?
Feb 27 14:47:31 <Bugpowder>	It was probably a more complex issue
Feb 27 14:47:52 <Bugpowder>	custom silicon probes for chronic in vivo neural recording
Feb 27 14:48:02 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bitbet_new_asic_pwns_bfl.jpg
Feb 27 14:48:04 <Bugpowder>	like its a more 'custom' thing
Feb 27 14:48:10 <kakobrekla>	me too!
Feb 27 14:48:16 <Bugpowder>	but it still was SUPPOSED to be easy
Feb 27 14:48:26 <Bugpowder>	the bumping part that is
Feb 27 14:48:32 <Bugpowder>	and the vendor blew it
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Feb 27 14:50:40 <error4733>	realy curious about all this ! diff, rally if they ship, avalon, etc
Feb 27 14:51:04 <error4733>	full of dramaqueen
Feb 27 14:51:22 <dub>	forum ad: Advertisement: I HATE TABLES I HATE TABLES I HA(.°.°... ... TABLES I HATE TABLES I HATE TABLES
Feb 27 14:51:37 <dub>	how much did they pay for that?
Feb 27 14:51:40 <kakobrekla>	now its also irc ad.
Feb 27 14:52:09 <dub>	and its not a link in either!
Feb 27 14:53:01 <jurov>	*sigh* just came home... was blocking the elevator 10 minutes
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Feb 27 14:53:40 <jcpham>	asicminer was close to 5TH/s last time i looked
Feb 27 14:53:53 <jurov>	cuz neighbor convincing me the banks want to crash all existing currencies to create a unified world currency
Feb 27 14:54:17 <jurov>	in 10 years. and i couldn't explain to him they will get obsolete by that time
Feb 27 14:56:00 <jcpham>	i think the united states is the only country interested in unifying the world
Feb 27 14:56:18 <jcpham>	currency/government/law/whatever
Feb 27 14:56:29 <chmod755>	wat?
Feb 27 14:56:53 <jcpham>	illuminati->united states-> united nations-> galactic alliance
Feb 27 14:56:59 <jcpham>	i think i've made my point
Feb 27 14:57:06 <chmod755>	.....
Feb 27 14:57:33 <jcpham>	i am atlas
Feb 27 14:57:41 <error4733>	;;asks 31.68
Feb 27 14:57:43 <gribble>	There are currently 145.92166 bitcoins offered at or under 31.68 USD, worth 4610.13055542 USD in total.
Feb 27 14:58:04 <chmod755>	;;asks 9000
Feb 27 14:58:07 <gribble>	There are currently 79821.88 bitcoins offered at or under 9000.0 USD, worth 7849274.53213 USD in total.
Feb 27 14:58:11 <jurov>	lol they end up being bought by romania.. with mircea as president
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Feb 27 14:58:51 <jurov>	bugpowder ragequit?
Feb 27 15:02:44 <darkmethod>	;;asks 1000
Feb 27 15:02:46 <gribble>	There are currently 79422.474 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 5916315.03342 USD in total.
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Feb 27 15:38:35 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2013/02/coinstar-adding-paypal-features-to.html?ana=RSS
Feb 27 15:49:10 <kakobrekla>	who runs bitcoin.it wiki
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Feb 27 15:55:50 <jurov>	what do you think about bet: CoinLab will close or cease bitcoin payments by June ?
Feb 27 15:55:55 <jurov>	just putting it together
Feb 27 15:56:13 <mircea_popescu>	jurov make a deadpool
Feb 27 15:56:20 <mircea_popescu>	i think there should be deadpool style betting
Feb 27 15:57:46 <jurov>	how to apply it to coinlab?
Feb 27 15:58:42 <mircea_popescu>	DEADPOOL : Coinlab dead by the end of the year.
Feb 27 15:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	something
Feb 27 15:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	(they won't die by june, as their burn rate isn't quite enough)
Feb 27 16:00:16 <kakobrekla>	Deadpool (Wade Winston Wilson) is a fictional character, a mercenary and anti-hero appearing in comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by artist Rob Liefeld and writer Fabian Nicieza, Deadpool first appeared in The New Mutants #98 (Feb. 1991).
Feb 27 16:00:17 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Feb 27 16:01:06 <kakobrekla>	Deadpool now kills btc mining pools?
Feb 27 16:05:28 <kakobrekla>	https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/8742-1-gram-silver-trading-card
Feb 27 16:05:29 <kakobrekla>	wtf
Feb 27 16:07:08 <mod6>	hmm, some sort of app promo thingy.
Feb 27 16:07:16 <mod6>	has anyone ever gotten good delivery from bitmit?
Feb 27 16:07:33 <mod6>	i haven't used it yet.
Feb 27 16:07:51 <jurov>	bet posted, has "nefario clause" too lol
Feb 27 16:07:55 <jurov>	for review
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Feb 27 16:09:18 <error4733>	some issue about the owner
Feb 27 16:10:16 <error4733>	if you dont know where you send money for escrow, better to play at satoshi dice
Feb 27 16:11:06 <error4733>	so i wait until, they refund all account etc... before risk myself in it
Feb 27 16:11:51 <error4733>	shame bc a ebay like with good trust have a HUUUUUUUUUUUGGeeeeeeee potential
Feb 27 16:11:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00889 BTC [-]
Feb 27 16:12:16 <Ukto>	[14:53] <jurov> what do you think about bet: CoinLab will close or cease bitcoin payments by June ? <-- Did I miss something?
Feb 27 16:13:14 <jurov>	they basically don't know what they're doing.. and apparently they cancel orders anytime when mtgox goes up
Feb 27 16:13:29 <Ukto>	0,o
Feb 27 16:13:45 <jurov>	quite a mess... so decided bet may be in good order
Feb 27 16:14:00 <Ukto>	I was actually talking to an old friend of mine that uses them on an extremely large website
Feb 27 16:14:09 <Ukto>	whos considering moving over to weex as soon as I make it ready
Feb 27 16:15:42 <Ukto>	only 364k shares left. https://bitfunder.com/asset/ZigGap
Feb 27 16:22:45 <jurov>	oh they're selling at same price as in sunday?
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Feb 27 16:23:46 <Ukto>	nah, 2x more
Feb 27 16:23:51 <Ukto>	was 0.00005 now its 0.0001
Feb 27 16:26:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370N] 2 @ 0.15307998 = 0.3062 BTC
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Feb 27 16:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 51 @ 0.0063799 = 0.3254 BTC [+]
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Feb 27 16:31:20 <jurov>	thought live.coinbr seized again... but there just wasn't any trade
Feb 27 16:31:36 <jurov>	anyone has a clue why?
Feb 27 16:32:29 <pigeons>	omg ICE seized coinbr.com? ;)
Feb 27 16:33:31 <jurov>	there was almost no mpex trade overall, not just coinbr... so it was prolly seized, too :D
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Feb 27 16:49:32 <pigeons>	yeah mpex volume sure has been low
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Feb 27 16:51:11 <ThickAsThieves>	SDICE divs are coming up, one whale bought all the MPOE, and BBET has no divs
Feb 27 16:51:24 <ThickAsThieves>	guessing
Feb 27 16:53:08 <kakobrekla>	this one is going nicley too
Feb 27 16:53:08 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Feb 27 16:53:28 <kakobrekla>	1:5 , but a small sample
Feb 27 16:54:57 <kakobrekla>	if this goes on theyll get their own category
Feb 27 16:57:42 <Bugpowder>	well
Feb 27 16:57:45 <Bugpowder>	looking more legit
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Feb 27 16:59:07 <Bugpowder>	http://coinlab.com/new-transition
Feb 27 16:59:25 <Bugpowder>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19boiu/coinlab_bringing_bitcoin_to_wall_street_with/c8mtykq
Feb 27 17:00:53 <jurov>	mtgox has yet to say anything
Feb 27 17:01:29 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 27 17:01:59 <Bugpowder>	Seems more likely to be real than not.
Feb 27 17:02:01 <Bugpowder>	now though
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Feb 27 17:02:09 <Bugpowder>	also probably bullish
Feb 27 17:02:38 <Bugpowder>	just bought back with my gox cash
Feb 27 17:02:38 <jurov>	even if mtgox thing materializes, don't necessarily mean they will make it through to the end of the year
Feb 27 17:03:05 <ThickAsThieves>	so does this expose americans to easier gov intervention now?
Feb 27 17:03:15 <error4733>	referal or not on bitfunder ?
Feb 27 17:03:15 <Bugpowder>	yes
Feb 27 17:03:23 <Bugpowder>	easier compliance
Feb 27 17:03:25 <Bugpowder>	with FACTA
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Feb 27 17:04:23 <ThickAsThieves>	so for example the gov could say, hey coinlab give us a list of all accounts connected to gox, we wanna run some audits
Feb 27 17:05:35 <ThickAsThieves>	it wont even be called gox for americans anymore, heh
Feb 27 17:06:16 <Bugpowder>	how many US based gox users sitting with cash in there are going to buy the coins and ship them out before the transfer occurs?
Feb 27 17:07:24 <ThickAsThieves>	will it matter?
Feb 27 17:07:33 <Bugpowder>	who knows
Feb 27 17:07:39 <ThickAsThieves>	what will people use instead
Feb 27 17:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	aethero's thing
Feb 27 17:08:05 <Bugpowder>	I'm not sure if I should be happy or pissed.
Feb 27 17:08:23 <ThickAsThieves>	ziggap is all western union stuff
Feb 27 17:08:27 <Bugpowder>	fastcash4bitcoins
Feb 27 17:08:30 <ThickAsThieves>	moneygram
Feb 27 17:08:33 <ThickAsThieves>	etc
Feb 27 17:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	o, that yea.
Feb 27 17:09:00 <Bugpowder>	I have a tangible cryptography account already, so I can still purchase from him
Feb 27 17:09:25 <Bugpowder>	where is the panic buying?
Feb 27 17:09:41 <Bugpowder>	I guess I overestimated the power of a reddit comment.
Feb 27 17:09:44 <ThickAsThieves>	waiting for their gox transfer
Feb 27 17:10:20 <dub>	is using coinlab non-optional for amerifags then?
Feb 27 17:10:34 <ThickAsThieves>	campbx takes dwolla
Feb 27 17:10:45 <ThickAsThieves>	based in GA
Feb 27 17:10:52 <dub>	gox using amerifags I mean
Feb 27 17:10:54 <Bugpowder>	dub, it might be optimal
Feb 27 17:11:08 <Bugpowder>	there are not a lot of easy options
Feb 27 17:11:15 <Bugpowder>	for n00bs
Feb 27 17:11:25 <Bugpowder>	in the bitcoin ponzi pyramid
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Feb 27 17:11:56 <Bugpowder>	coinbase is a near disaster
Feb 27 17:12:11 <dub>	I don't even know what coinbase is
Feb 27 17:12:25 <ThickAsThieves>	bitinstant
Feb 27 17:12:27 <Bugpowder>	its a gateway exchange
Feb 27 17:12:28 <ThickAsThieves>	is anothe roption
Feb 27 17:12:37 <BitHub>	anyone read that news about coinbase today?
Feb 27 17:12:38 <Bugpowder>	huge fees with bitinstant 4%
Feb 27 17:13:15 <Bugpowder>	they are hiring support specialists?
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Feb 27 17:13:41 <BitHub>	did a deal with mtgox and now going to wall street
Feb 27 17:13:42 <BitHub>	oh dear
Feb 27 17:13:42 <ThickAsThieves>	dwolla to bitinstant is 2%
Feb 27 17:13:51 *	BitHub smells so many diasters
Feb 27 17:14:07 <Bugpowder>	huh?
Feb 27 17:14:16 <Bugpowder>	dude you just joined
Feb 27 17:14:21 <ThickAsThieves>	dwolla to campbx is .25
Feb 27 17:14:21 <Bugpowder>	1) its coinlab
Feb 27 17:14:27 <ThickAsThieves>	cents
Feb 27 17:14:30 <ThickAsThieves>	not %
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Feb 27 17:14:48 <BitHub>	oh coinlab
Feb 27 17:14:49 <Bugpowder>	2) yes http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19boiu/coinlab_bringing_bitcoin_to_wall_street_with/
Feb 27 17:14:53 <BitHub>	sorry still waking up
Feb 27 17:15:00 <Bugpowder>	no worries.
Feb 27 17:15:42 <Bugpowder>	Hmm... coinbase up to $2MM in coin sales per month now.  Doubled in a month
Feb 27 17:15:52 <Bugpowder>	I guess the price doubled too hahah
Feb 27 17:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6514 @ 0.00074618 = 4.8606 BTC [+]
Feb 27 17:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9486 @ 0.00074829 = 7.0983 BTC [+]
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Feb 27 17:21:27 <pigeons>	did coinbase stop paying you with unconfirmed coins? i don't get the appeal at all
Feb 27 17:23:00 <error4733>	ppf i'm going crazy with weexchange fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Feb 27 17:30:19 <dub>	Now, whether you want to buy or sell Bitcoin there is no faster, safer or more transparent place to make your market then with CoinLab's trading platform powered by Mt. Gox. Sign up now to get ready for the all new Mt. Gox!
Feb 27 17:30:29 <dub>	I like that they speak english
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Feb 27 17:38:16 <pigeons>	wtf does coinbase's platform have aqnything to do with "wall street"
Feb 27 17:38:21 <pigeons>	*coinlab
Feb 27 17:38:42 <dub>	its in amurica
Feb 27 17:40:32 <BitHub>	i smell a wallstreet fail
Feb 27 17:41:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15199 @ 0.0063799 = 96.9681 BTC [+]
Feb 27 17:43:01 <dub>	'Coinbase brings bitcoin to the Alabama beef jerky co-operative' doesn't have the same ring
Feb 27 17:44:17 <pigeons>	"coinbase announces they are awitching business models again to improve something that they have no experience in that mtgox with the most experience doesn't like handling"
Feb 27 17:44:45 <pigeons>	*coinlab
Feb 27 17:44:46 <pigeons>	heh
Feb 27 17:45:27 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Feb 27 17:45:57 <Bugpowder>	is this bullish or bearish?
Feb 27 17:46:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.0063799 = 0.0447 BTC [+]
Feb 27 17:47:13 <ThickAsThieves>	It's Finance 2.0, bro
Feb 27 17:47:34 <swhitt>	,,bc,stats
Feb 27 17:48:08 <swhitt>	;;bc,stats
Feb 27 17:48:10 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223486 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 289 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 10 hours, 10 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4415943.46024 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.95123
Feb 27 17:49:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.119 = 0.714 BTC [+]
Feb 27 17:49:32 <swhitt>	20.1% not bad
Feb 27 17:50:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder if asicminer is waiting for the next diff to triple their hashing
Feb 27 17:50:54 <ThickAsThieves>	if that even works
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Feb 27 17:52:50 <Bowjob>	http://bitcoinmagazine.com/coinlab-bringing-bitcoin-to-wall-street-with-mtgox-deal
Feb 27 17:52:52 <Bowjob>	wtf
Feb 27 17:53:07 <kakobrekla>	story of the day
Feb 27 17:53:12 <kakobrekla>	em i ment spam by now.
Feb 27 17:53:15 <kakobrekla>	hehe
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Feb 27 18:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	lmao dub
Feb 27 18:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	im totally going to publish a selection of these quotes.
Feb 27 18:11:29 <Bowjob>	http://mineforeman.com/2013/02/28/butterfly-labs-test-wafer-pictures-and-new-chip-details/
Feb 27 18:11:50 <Bowjob>	Mhm.. it looks like bathroom tiles, doesn't it?
Feb 27 18:12:08 <iz>	trust us guys.. we really have chips... place your pre-orders!
Feb 27 18:15:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 109 @ 0.01 = 1.09 BTC [+]
Feb 27 18:16:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00879 BTC [-]
Feb 27 18:16:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.00879 = 0.0352 BTC [-]
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Feb 27 18:19:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 314 @ 0.0063799 = 2.0033 BTC [+]
Feb 27 18:22:08 <dub>	g-line wat
Feb 27 18:22:34 <dub>	oh its a quit
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Feb 27 18:29:10 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 27 18:29:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.23000, Best ask: 31.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 31.25000, 24 hour volume: 30050.19888954, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.65000, 24 hour vwap: 31.22120
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Feb 27 18:30:16 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 27 18:30:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.03998, Best ask: 31.24987, Bid-ask spread: 0.20989, Last trade: 31.24987, 24 hour volume: 30267.51838954, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.65000, 24 hour vwap: 31.21999
Feb 27 18:30:51 <Bowjob>	theres a 20k btc wall
Feb 27 18:31:19 <ThickAsThieves>	i blame coinlab
Feb 27 18:31:53 <Bowjob>	i wonder what the effects of coinlab will be
Feb 27 18:32:18 <Bowjob>	if it  hurts btc prices, then i'll buy back cheaper
Feb 27 18:33:23 <pigeons>	i hope you're sacrcastic, it will have 0 effect
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Feb 27 18:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/ycombinator-continues-to-suck-jointly-and-severally/
Feb 27 18:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's a dramaparty and everyone's quoted.
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Feb 27 18:45:00 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Feb 27 18:45:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder if coinlab is reading
Feb 27 18:46:22 <mircea_popescu>	that'd require them having a clue.
Feb 27 18:46:28 <mircea_popescu>	i give it 10:1 against.
Feb 27 18:48:43 <ThickAsThieves>	the PR says that americans wont see mtgox branding anymore
Feb 27 18:48:52 <ThickAsThieves>	itll be all Coinlabbed up
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Feb 27 18:49:07 <mod6>	BitHub I smell a wallstreet fail. << best comment
Feb 27 18:52:17 <dub>	http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jonmatonis/files/2012/10/coinlab-founders.jpg lefty looks like a dude I know (its not), righty looks like he slipped lefty a roofie and is about to get his rape on
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Feb 27 18:53:12 <dub>	hat matching shirt. instarapist
Feb 27 18:53:17 <Bugpowder>	lol
Feb 27 18:53:24 <Bugpowder>	that photo
Feb 27 18:53:47 <ThickAsThieves>	why would they choose that
Feb 27 18:54:00 <kakobreklaa>	that hat?
Feb 27 18:54:02 <ThickAsThieves>	"Oh send them that one from the cruise!"
Feb 27 18:54:05 <ThickAsThieves>	photo
Feb 27 18:54:09 <ThickAsThieves>	for the PR
Feb 27 18:54:14 <Bugpowder>	This is worse
Feb 27 18:54:15 <Bugpowder>	http://coinlab.com/about
Feb 27 18:54:23 <Bugpowder>	It is really worrisome
Feb 27 18:54:56 <ThickAsThieves>	they need a new design team
Feb 27 18:54:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00072 BTC [+]
Feb 27 18:55:20 <ThickAsThieves>	they have Buy buttons on their home page now, when you click, they ask for your phone number, wtf?
Feb 27 18:55:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00072 BTC [+]
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Feb 27 18:55:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.00072 = 0.0022 BTC [+]
Feb 27 18:55:59 <mod6>	(15:54) < ThickAsThieves> "Oh send them that one from the cruise!" << lol
Feb 27 18:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	o mz brady will be thrilled.
Feb 27 18:58:03 <ThickAsThieves>	"Taking You from Zero to Full Stack"
Feb 27 18:58:18 <ThickAsThieves>	that's the lead on their "strategy" page
Feb 27 18:58:53 <ThickAsThieves>	Rent a Petascale Cluster
Feb 27 18:58:53 <ThickAsThieves>	For as little as $80 per hour
Feb 27 18:59:30 <ThickAsThieves>	The Bitcoin network is the largest distributed computation cluster in the world. We help it's members provide their computation ability to the highest bidder.
Feb 27 18:59:48 <mircea_popescu>	it's ?!
Feb 27 18:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	what, they compete with hashpower too ?
Feb 27 19:00:15 <ThickAsThieves>	whats going on
Feb 27 19:02:13 <mod6>	(15:54) < Bugpowder> It is really worrisome << after reading the about page, I couldn't agree more
Feb 27 19:02:22 <ThickAsThieves>	They have a "Buy $1M" button
Feb 27 19:02:22 <Bowjob>	it worries me if either US or canadian gov't ask for a list of who bought bitcoins when they were cheap
Feb 27 19:02:40 <Bowjob>	assuming butcoins fetch for quite a bit
Feb 27 19:02:45 <Bowjob>	id would be a hassle for me lol
Feb 27 19:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	so don't use them
Feb 27 19:03:22 <mircea_popescu>	who is jose canseco
Feb 27 19:03:32 <mod6>	former baseball player
Feb 27 19:03:49 <Bowjob>	wheres the buy 1m button
Feb 27 19:04:01 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Feb 27 19:04:17 <ThickAsThieves>	really dumb
Feb 27 19:04:29 <ThickAsThieves>	did reality shows after he became a nobody
Feb 27 19:04:30 <Bowjob>	oh i see it
Feb 27 19:04:53 <Bowjob>	theres a sell 1m too
Feb 27 19:05:02 <Bowjob>	im sure the gov
Feb 27 19:05:09 <Bowjob>	would be very interested in it
Feb 27 19:06:36 <ThickAsThieves>	I wonder if they actually have people lined up to buy
Feb 27 19:07:17 <ThickAsThieves>	is there a gribble for how many bitcoins will $1mil get me?
Feb 27 19:08:34 <mod6>	;;market --buy --usd 1000000
Feb 27 19:08:36 <gribble>	A market order to buy 1000000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would buy 30956.035 bitcoins and would take the last price up to 34.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 32.3039 USD/BTC.
Feb 27 19:09:08 <ThickAsThieves>	not as dramatic as i imagined
Feb 27 19:09:27 <Bowjob>	they have a storage solution page
Feb 27 19:09:27 <Bowjob>	wtf
Feb 27 19:09:40 <Bowjob>	so you pay them money to store your bitcoins
Feb 27 19:09:49 <Bowjob>	sounds like debit cards
Feb 27 19:10:08 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess if youre an investment co, who do you trust with the coins?
Feb 27 19:10:24 <ThickAsThieves>	the IT dept?
Feb 27 19:11:52 <thestringpuller>	;;market --ask --usd 1000000
Feb 27 19:11:53 <gribble>	Error: The "Market" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "--ask" in it.  Try "list Market" to see the commands in the "Market" plugin.
Feb 27 19:12:00 <thestringpuller>	;;market
Feb 27 19:12:01 <gribble>	Error: "market" is not a valid command.
Feb 27 19:12:06 <thestringpuller>	;;market --help
Feb 27 19:12:07 <gribble>	Error: The "Market" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "--help" in it.  Try "list Market" to see the commands in the "Market" plugin.
Feb 27 19:12:13 <thestringpuller>	;;list Market
Feb 27 19:12:13 <gribble>	asks, bids, buy, sell, and ticker
Feb 27 19:12:25 <thestringpuller>	;;market --sell --usd 1000000
Feb 27 19:12:27 <gribble>	A market order to sell 1000000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would sell 34890.485 bitcoins and would take the last price down to 26.7800 USD, resulting in an average price of 28.6611 USD/BTC.
Feb 27 19:13:10 <ThickAsThieves>	whoa
Feb 27 19:13:15 <TomServo>	indeed.
Feb 27 19:13:21 <Bowjob>	Holy shit
Feb 27 19:13:23 <Bowjob>	we are rising
Feb 27 19:13:24 <ThickAsThieves>	price just raced up
Feb 27 19:13:26 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 27 19:13:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.22125, Best ask: 31.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.66875, Last trade: 31.89000, 24 hour volume: 38143.57222950, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.89000, 24 hour vwap: 31.32046
Feb 27 19:13:37 <Bowjob>	Come on.. just 2 fucking cents
Feb 27 19:13:41 <Bowjob>	and we beat ATH
Feb 27 19:13:54 <Bowjob>	also, DAT spread
Feb 27 19:15:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i predict new high in t-minus 300 seconds
Feb 27 19:16:58 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 27 19:16:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.35000, Best ask: 31.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 31.88000, 24 hour volume: 38153.17698435, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.89000, 24 hour vwap: 31.32077
Feb 27 19:17:05 <Bowjob>	What a tease
Feb 27 19:17:28 <Bowjob>	I was about to take a bite then it got pulled away
Feb 27 19:21:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 27 19:21:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.65000, Best ask: 31.66754, Bid-ask spread: 0.01754, Last trade: 31.63000, 24 hour volume: 38971.49310386, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.89000, 24 hour vwap: 31.33081
Feb 27 19:21:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i was wrong
Feb 27 19:22:54 <ThickAsThieves>	mp is off congregating with legion of bitcoin whales to deal with siteeation
Feb 27 19:23:40 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 27 19:23:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.65001, Best ask: 31.66754, Bid-ask spread: 0.01753, Last trade: 31.66754, 24 hour volume: 39018.81424086, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.89000, 24 hour vwap: 31.33168
Feb 27 19:23:50 <Bowjob>	yeap, we got teased
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Feb 27 19:32:45 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 27 19:32:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.70001, Best ask: 31.76999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 31.70001, 24 hour volume: 39398.25969646, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 31.89000, 24 hour vwap: 31.33667
Feb 27 19:36:15 <dub>	fuck
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Feb 27 19:42:41 <ThickAsThieves>	31.91
Feb 27 19:42:52 <ThickAsThieves>	.92
Feb 27 19:46:03 <ThickAsThieves>	.93
Feb 27 19:46:40 <kakobreklaa>	32
Feb 27 19:47:00 <Namworld>	record broken...
Feb 27 19:47:17 <mod6>	ding ding!
Feb 27 19:47:18 <BitHub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
Feb 27 19:47:26 <ThickAsThieves>	yay!
Feb 27 19:47:30 <ThickAsThieves>	CRASH time
Feb 27 19:47:32 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Feb 27 19:48:03 <kakobreklaa>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 27 19:48:08 <kakobreklaa>	ya for sure.
Feb 27 19:48:15 <kakobreklaa>	crash on the upwards.
Feb 27 19:48:24 <Bowjob>	WOOT
Feb 27 19:48:30 <Bowjob>	Congrats mentlegen!
Feb 27 19:48:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean the smart thing is to take down your asks right now
Feb 27 19:48:36 <Bowjob>	Also Adam lost his bet
Feb 27 19:48:37 <ThickAsThieves>	then boom
Feb 27 19:51:31 <kakobreklaa>	smell 33
Feb 27 19:51:39 <ThickAsThieves>	so we all just got rich
Feb 27 19:51:40 <kakobreklaa>	can you?
Feb 27 19:51:44 <ThickAsThieves>	thank you coinlab
Feb 27 19:52:07 <Bowjob>	In a couple years we will look back on this event..
Feb 27 19:52:14 <Bowjob>	when btc are thousands of dollars each
Feb 27 19:52:21 <kakobreklaa>	you will try to but you wont remember
Feb 27 19:52:27 <Bowjob>	"lol look at us.. getting excited over a dollar
Feb 27 19:52:46 <Bowjob>	now if Yifu can get his act together.. I want my aSIC
Feb 27 19:52:56 <kakobreklaa>	ya, a dollar times n is n dollars
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Feb 27 19:54:09 <Namworld>	those little stairs over 31 don't look natural on the orderbook...
Feb 27 19:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 27 19:54:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.25125, Best ask: 32.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18875, Last trade: 32.44000, 24 hour volume: 52193.36438180, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 32.44000, 24 hour vwap: 31.50409
Feb 27 19:55:13 <Namworld>	We're in all time high zone
Feb 27 19:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	getting people to sell bitcoins from now on will be a feat.
Feb 27 19:55:53 <Bowjob>	Id prefer to stay in this range for a bit actually
Feb 27 19:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	i woner how long till 100
Feb 27 19:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	a week ? a month ? a year ? a decade >?
Feb 27 19:56:44 <kakobreklaa>	2 years
Feb 27 19:57:04 <kakobreklaa>	well no
Feb 27 19:57:05 <ThickAsThieves>	a few days
Feb 27 19:57:09 <kakobreklaa>	2014
Feb 27 19:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	possibly
Feb 27 19:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	"obama. started term, btc was 1/10000 of a pizza. ended term, 10`000 pizzas bought one btc"
Feb 27 19:58:22 <dub>	down now
Feb 27 19:58:38 <kakobreklaa>	hm
Feb 27 19:58:40 <Ukto>	[18:54] <amphipod> Feb28 00:56:46 mtgox     x11   165.2808 @    32.79869778 USD
Feb 27 19:58:42 <Ukto>	;)
Feb 27 19:58:44 <Bowjob>	it was actually 10000 btc for 2 pizzas
Feb 27 19:58:52 <kakobreklaa>	strong bids at 32.7-32.5
Feb 27 19:59:06 <Bowjob>	mhm nvm
Feb 27 19:59:34 <Bowjob>	get those investors on dice and ill be happuy
Feb 27 19:59:48 <ThickAsThieves>	if they control growth, they'll make a lot more money
Feb 27 19:59:48 <kakobreklaa>	at this rate ill never run out of euros
Feb 27 19:59:56 <kakobreklaa>	but wtf.
Feb 27 20:00:02 <ThickAsThieves>	really the market has been being controlled for a week or two now it looked like
Feb 27 20:00:24 <ThickAsThieves>	the slower the rise the more fools will sell
Feb 27 20:02:08 <Bowjob>	i wonder what those ltc people will do now
Feb 27 20:02:36 <kakobreklaa>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 27 20:02:38 <kakobreklaa>	lol
Feb 27 20:02:44 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Feb 27 20:02:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.75000, Best ask: 32.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 32.75000, 24 hour volume: 55524.78325419, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 32.80000, 24 hour vwap: 31.57837
Feb 27 20:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.3881316 = 1388.1316 BTC [-]
Feb 27 20:08:18 <mircea_popescu>	1400 btc of pure profit ?
Feb 27 20:08:22 <Bowjob>	wow some stupid dude complained about my gile
Feb 27 20:09:01 <Namworld>	I've seen you encouraging someone complaining about his gambling problems to keep gambling Bowjob...
Feb 27 20:10:00 <Bowjob>	hey my math was solid
Feb 27 20:11:00 <Namworld>	A solid loss for the gambler
Feb 27 20:11:34 <Namworld>	A solid win for you...
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Feb 27 20:12:14 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Feb 27 20:12:20 <Namworld>	That looks... odd
Feb 27 20:13:34 <dub>	guys just a head up, I am satoshi and its time to dump my 500k
Feb 27 20:13:56 <mircea_popescu>	kthx.
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Feb 27 20:17:42 <Bugpowdr>	yeahhhhh
Feb 27 20:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa http://bitbet.us/bet/206/bitcoin-market-cap-above-1-billion-before-end/
Feb 27 20:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	2:1 that it's this year.
Feb 27 20:18:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 700 @ 1.38433736 = 969.0362 BTC [-]
Feb 27 20:19:13 <thestringpuller>	the whale seems to be using a bullish strategy
Feb 27 20:20:41 <Bowjob>	it would be more noble if satoshi refused to own btc due to conflict of interest
Feb 27 20:20:52 <thestringpuller>	Satoshi...doesn't...exist
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Feb 27 20:21:04 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob it's pretty well established he doesn't have much if anything.
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Feb 27 20:21:37 <dub>	;;goxlag
Feb 27 20:21:38 <gribble>	30.936965 seconds
Feb 27 20:21:41 <dub>	wowow
Feb 27 20:21:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.26888574 = 268.8857 BTC [+]
Feb 27 20:21:59 <Namworld>	wait till it reaches 666.666666 seconds
Feb 27 20:22:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 600 @ 0.23935683 = 143.6141 BTC [+]
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Feb 27 20:25:06 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (32 - 31)/ 32
Feb 27 20:25:06 <gribble>	0.03125
Feb 27 20:25:10 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (33 - 31)/ 33
Feb 27 20:25:10 <gribble>	0.0606060606061
Feb 27 20:25:19 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (42 - 31)/ 42
Feb 27 20:25:19 <gribble>	0.261904761905
Feb 27 20:25:32 <kakobreklaa>	lol mircea_popescu some hefty sums
Feb 27 20:25:41 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (42 - 33)/ 42
Feb 27 20:25:41 <gribble>	0.214285714286
Feb 27 20:25:56 <thestringpuller>	bullish position...
Feb 27 20:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Feb 27 20:26:16 <Namworld>	I've seen better
Feb 27 20:26:34 <thestringpuller>	I'm expecting 40 in march
Feb 27 20:27:00 <Bowjob>	80 in april
Feb 27 20:27:11 <kakobreklaa>	32650 in juptmeber
Feb 27 20:27:12 <thestringpuller>	80 might not hit until july
Feb 27 20:27:26 <Bowjob>	eh you guys are too bearish
Feb 27 20:27:30 <Bowjob>	300k by next year
Feb 27 20:27:36 <thestringpuller>	XD
Feb 27 20:27:40 <thestringpuller>	collapse of the US dollar
Feb 27 20:27:46 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 27 20:27:53 <thestringpuller>	Gold went up almost 100 dollars while bernanke spoke to congress
Feb 27 20:28:01 <thestringpuller>	^- in other news
Feb 27 20:28:01 <kakobreklaa>	so i btc will be like 5000 usd or 60 euros
Feb 27 20:28:05 <kakobreklaa>	i = 1
Feb 27 20:28:43 <thestringpuller>	QE infinity is going on so if the US goes into hyperinflation that could be plausible...
Feb 27 20:30:02 <Bowjob>	wed be trillionairs
Feb 27 20:30:46 <thestringpuller>	and trillion dollars will by a stick of gum in that future :P
Feb 27 20:30:54 <dub>	;;ticker --high
Feb 27 20:30:55 <gribble>	33.00000
Feb 27 20:32:09 <maximian>	40 next week at this rate
Feb 27 20:32:18 <kakobreklaa>	at this rate, today.
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Feb 27 20:32:48 <kakobreklaa>	;;ticker --high
Feb 27 20:32:49 <gribble>	33.20000
Feb 27 20:33:19 <Bowjob>	so many bears here
Feb 27 20:36:32 <Bowjob>	the wall observer went nuts
Feb 27 20:36:52 <dub>	lol fuck
Feb 27 20:36:58 <dub>	I just fat finger failed
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Feb 27 20:37:03 <Bowjob>	I wonder if that dude who shoved a sharpie up his ass is happy
Feb 27 20:37:20 <kakobreklaa>	dub?
Feb 27 20:37:23 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 27 20:37:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.03123, Best ask: 33.08039, Bid-ask spread: 0.04916, Last trade: 33.08039, 24 hour volume: 62463.10960810, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 33.20000, 24 hour vwap: 31.72613
Feb 27 20:37:37 <thestringpuller>	the economy is growing...
Feb 27 20:38:17 <dub>	kakobreklaa: I 32'd when I should have 33'd
Feb 27 20:38:19 <Bugpowdr>	so funny
Feb 27 20:38:21 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Feb 27 20:38:22 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 27 20:38:37 <dub>	where for art thou smickles
Feb 27 20:38:40 <Bugpowdr>	I bot all my gox cash 3 hours ago cause I though it was going to rocket
Feb 27 20:38:48 <Bugpowdr>	sketched out
Feb 27 20:38:56 <Bugpowdr>	sold all 20 minutes later
Feb 27 20:39:01 <Bugpowdr>	now rebought at 32.90
Feb 27 20:39:08 <Bugpowdr>	fucking retarded
Feb 27 20:39:11 <kakobreklaa>	:D
Feb 27 20:39:12 <Namworld>	I feel tainted... by trading...
Feb 27 20:39:19 <kakobreklaa>	raped its called.
Feb 27 20:39:34 <Namworld>	No... I'd be the one raping...
Feb 27 20:39:36 <Bowjob>	bug.. what happened to your btc short
Feb 27 20:39:55 <Namworld>	Tainted is the word.
Feb 27 20:41:04 <Bugpowdr>	oh I closed that
Feb 27 20:41:07 <Bugpowdr>	long time ago
Feb 27 20:41:24 <Bugpowdr>	waited till the 24hprc started going up
Feb 27 20:41:28 <Bugpowdr>	ate the loss
Feb 27 20:41:31 <Bugpowdr>	sucked
Feb 27 20:41:50 <Bugpowdr>	not shorting this rally again
Feb 27 20:42:35 <copumpkin>	when you don't short it is when you get screwed
Feb 27 20:42:40 <copumpkin>	but when you do, you also get screwed
Feb 27 20:42:47 <copumpkin>	just learn to accept the unconditional screwage
Feb 27 20:42:48 <kakobreklaa>	so do the oposite
Feb 27 20:42:52 <kakobreklaa>	go long.
Feb 27 20:43:41 <Bowjob>	win some lose some
Feb 27 20:43:46 <Bowjob>	btc is dangerous to short
Feb 27 20:43:56 <Bowjob>	I wanted to short LTC no one took me on my offer lol
Feb 27 20:48:33 <Chaang-Noi>	we broke the high and i was sleeping???
Feb 27 20:48:43 <Chaang-Noi>	fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Feb 27 20:48:44 <kakobreklaa>	go back to sleep then
Feb 27 20:49:14 <Namworld>	Go dream for a while, come back when they're 500 USD/BTC or something
Feb 27 20:49:34 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah im back to bed
Feb 27 20:49:39 <Chaang-Noi>	bufgr'
Feb 27 20:49:44 <Chaang-Noi>	night+
Feb 27 20:51:50 <Chaang-Noi>	wow, nice bid walls, and no real ask walls
Feb 27 20:53:08 <Namworld>	yeah
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Feb 27 20:59:37 <thestringpuller>	i hope someone isn't hoarding
Feb 27 20:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdr lol mtgox is grateful
Feb 27 20:59:53 <thestringpuller>	it'll go up to like 40 and some whale will begin dumping
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Feb 27 21:01:00 <Bugpowdr>	yah but now i havemoar
Feb 27 21:02:43 <error4733>	Woooooooooooooooooooow
Feb 27 21:03:15 <error4733>	WTF is going on
Feb 27 21:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 27 21:03:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.91578, Best ask: 33.05300, Bid-ask spread: 0.13722, Last trade: 33.05300, 24 hour volume: 63289.54985978, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 33.20000, 24 hour vwap: 31.75887
Feb 27 21:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda funnay.
Feb 27 21:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	31.25261933 is price implied by options
Feb 27 21:04:12 <thestringpuller>	how'd you come up with that number so fast
Feb 27 21:04:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 439 @ 0.01 = 4.39 BTC [+]
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Feb 27 21:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	cause of maffs
Feb 27 21:05:17 <thestringpuller>	are you taking total volume of each option?
Feb 27 21:05:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 235 @ 0.01 = 2.35 BTC [+]
Feb 27 21:05:36 <Namworld>	I'm still surprised at getting so much BTC loaned to me considering the interest I offer.
Feb 27 21:05:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder if we will see a bubble to $200 or something
Feb 27 21:06:53 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I got 31.653
Feb 27 21:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/
Feb 27 21:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	mpex now publishes 7day oix number
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Feb 27 21:20:00 <Namworld>	cool
Feb 27 21:21:29 <Bugpowdr>	god damn it
Feb 27 21:22:56 <Bugpowdr>	;;ticker
Feb 27 21:22:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.93788, Best ask: 32.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06212, Last trade: 32.00000, 24 hour volume: 76977.68308630, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 33.20000, 24 hour vwap: 31.89740
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Feb 27 21:26:50 <Namworld>	bugpowder: what?
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Feb 27 21:29:08 <Bugpowdr>	the twin towers fell
Feb 27 21:29:31 <Bugpowdr>	I am so bad at day trading
Feb 27 21:31:21 <Namworld>	manipulator action going on...
Feb 27 21:31:37 <Namworld>	I saw the walls form regular steps or changing place all the time
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Feb 27 21:32:45 <Bugpowdr>	Nah dude.  The got eaten
Feb 27 21:32:53 <Bugpowdr>	look at the volume
Feb 27 21:32:59 <Namworld>	ah, okay
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Feb 27 21:33:04 <Namworld>	I avoid daytrading
Feb 27 21:33:31 <Bugpowdr>	rally is back on
Feb 27 21:33:35 <Namworld>	I'm short bitcoin
Feb 27 21:33:43 <Bugpowdr>	duuuude
Feb 27 21:33:58 <Bugpowdr>	at what price do you blow up?
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Feb 27 21:34:04 <Chaang-Noi>	mtgoxlive.com fails for me, is there a better site like it?
Feb 27 21:34:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i placed a sell order for 10% of my btc at $200
Feb 27 21:34:58 <Namworld>	www.example.com
Feb 27 21:35:06 <Namworld>	It's the same but loads faster.
Feb 27 21:35:13 <Namworld>	Shows you nothing
Feb 27 21:35:17 <Namworld>	;;lag
Feb 27 21:35:18 <gribble>	Error: "lag" is not a valid command.
Feb 27 21:35:20 <Bugpowdr>	clarkmoody
Feb 27 21:35:24 <Bugpowdr>	for trades
Feb 27 21:35:26 <Namworld>	;;goxlag
Feb 27 21:35:27 <gribble>	0.204543 seconds
Feb 27 21:35:32 <Bugpowdr>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 27 21:35:36 <Bugpowdr>	for walls
Feb 27 21:35:42 <Bugpowdr>	zoom in on the pic
Feb 27 21:35:43 <Chaang-Noi>	;;goatlag
Feb 27 21:35:43 <gribble>	Error: "goatlag" is not a valid command.
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Feb 27 21:36:21 <Bugpowdr>	I think we are going to 50 now
Feb 27 21:38:52 <kakobreklaa>	prolly not far off
Feb 27 21:38:53 <kakobreklaa>	http://btctrading.wordpress.com/2013/02/16/short-term-update-mtgox-daily-chart-13/
Feb 27 21:39:20 <kakobreklaa>	and this is old.
Feb 27 21:39:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00629 BTC [-]
Feb 27 21:40:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.00629 = 0.0252 BTC [-]
Feb 27 21:40:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0063 = 6.3 BTC [+]
Feb 27 21:40:47 <kakobreklaa>	usagis silver at 29.
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Feb 27 21:42:18 <Bugpowdr>	he is selling half ounces at 1.3BTC though, much cheaper than anywhere else.
Feb 27 21:42:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 454 @ 0.00636 = 2.8874 BTC [+]
Feb 27 21:42:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00639 = 0.0192 BTC [+]
Feb 27 21:42:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10039 @ 0.0064 = 64.2496 BTC [+]
Feb 27 21:42:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0064 = 0.064 BTC [+]
Feb 27 21:42:45 <Bugpowdr>	whoa
Feb 27 21:42:52 <Bugpowdr>	thats big for BTCTC
Feb 27 21:43:26 <Namworld>	what? No
Feb 27 21:43:42 <Namworld>	BTCTC has about 2.3k 30d volume right now
Feb 27 21:44:05 <Namworld>	Done mostly on higher day.
Feb 27 21:44:18 <Namworld>	With dead periods in-between
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Feb 27 21:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/introducing-the-oix/
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Feb 27 21:48:36 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 27 21:48:41 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 27 21:48:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.45988, Best ask: 32.58915, Bid-ask spread: 0.12927, Last trade: 32.45988, 24 hour volume: 79609.88962262, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 33.20000, 24 hour vwap: 31.91584
Feb 27 21:48:48 <Bowjob>	32.45.. down from 33
Feb 27 21:48:50 <Bowjob>	CRASH!!!
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Feb 27 21:53:01 <Bugpowdr>	it hit 31.40 taking out 15,000 BTC on the way
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Feb 27 21:54:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 20 @ 0.0915995 = 1.832 BTC
Feb 27 21:56:54 <Bowjob>	i have a confession.. i actually dont know how to mine bitcoins
Feb 27 21:57:01 <Bowjob>	yet i jumped on the avalon bandwagon
Feb 27 21:57:02 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 27 21:57:39 <kakobreklaa>	#bitcoin-church
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Feb 27 22:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 27 22:02:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.60001, Best ask: 32.60490, Bid-ask spread: 0.00489, Last trade: 32.60490, 24 hour volume: 80058.57461354, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 33.20000, 24 hour vwap: 31.92017
Feb 27 22:03:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 4 @ 0.26985946 = 1.0794 BTC [+]
Feb 27 22:03:21 <Bugpowdr>	The buy must have been triggered by the are technia article
Feb 27 22:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker s.bbet
Feb 27 22:03:30 <assbot>	I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
Feb 27 22:03:30 <Bugpowdr>	God DAMN it
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Feb 27 22:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Feb 27 22:03:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00196499 / 0.00196499 / 0.00196499 (298 shares, 0.59 BTC), 7D: 0.00196487 / 0.00196488 / 0.001965 (3303 shares, 6.49 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00147341 / 0.001965 (77565 shares, 114.29 BTC)
Feb 27 22:03:42 <Bugpowdr>	I had advanced knowledge and I fucked it up.
Feb 27 22:04:22 <Bugpowdr>	Let's just get up to 50 so I can forget about this troubled time in my life.
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Feb 27 22:05:09 <Chaang-Noi>	techbia artical?
Feb 27 22:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdr i really don't think it was any article.
Feb 27 22:05:32 <Bugpowdr>	it was the coinlab news
Feb 27 22:06:01 <Bugpowdr>	people understand what easier US market access will do to the price.
Feb 27 22:06:04 <Chaang-Noi>	the one about coinlab helping instatutional investers was pretty damn bullish
Feb 27 22:06:07 <Bugpowdr>	Fucking firepower
Feb 27 22:06:09 <Chaang-Noi>	ah
Feb 27 22:06:12 <Bugpowdr>	$100
Feb 27 22:06:17 <Bugpowdr>	is gonna happen
Feb 27 22:06:25 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i wonder if people knew about that and they bought it all up
Feb 27 22:06:36 <Bugpowdr>	THat's why I bought back
Feb 27 22:06:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i never sold, have a sell over for 10% at $200
Feb 27 22:08:18 <kakobrekla>	im gonna redesign bitbet when 100 happens
Feb 27 22:08:39 <Bowjob>	eh
Feb 27 22:08:43 <Bowjob>	just hold it and forget it
Feb 27 22:08:47 <Bowjob>	simplest strategy
Feb 27 22:09:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.01 = 0.5 BTC [+]
Feb 27 22:09:13 <Bowjob>	had you forgotten about btc in 2011
Feb 27 22:09:21 <Bowjob>	and checked it in 2013, ud go.. yawn
Feb 27 22:09:21 <kakobrekla>	and if everybody does that, few years from now not a single node will be runing
Feb 27 22:09:25 <kakobrekla>	everyone forgot.
Feb 27 22:09:28 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 27 22:09:39 <Bowjob>	well, its a dillema
Feb 27 22:09:51 <Bowjob>	ill be mining soon so i wont forget
Feb 27 22:09:58 <Bowjob>	ill ride this horse wherever it takes me
Feb 27 22:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi you never sold what exactly ? whatever was left after paying out for the TYGRR.BOND (100% Insured Pirate Bonds)
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Feb 27 22:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 5 @ 0.21653437 = 1.0827 BTC [+]
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Feb 27 22:17:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.35 = 3.15 BTC [+]
Feb 27 22:32:34 <Chaang-Noi>	mircea_popescu i did pay that out in full
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Feb 27 22:34:09 <aiball>	is the s.dice dividend still 14K?
Feb 27 22:35:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Feb 27 22:35:37 <Bugpowdr>	~13
Feb 27 22:36:25 <aiball>	thanks
Feb 27 22:38:04 <Bowjob>	could it be the buy was a panic buy
Feb 27 22:38:07 <Bowjob>	because coinlab..
Feb 27 22:38:20 <Bowjob>	will bring customers closer to IRS
Feb 27 22:38:41 <Bugpowdr>	yes I considered that as well
Feb 27 22:38:48 <BitHub>	yeah good work coinlab
Feb 27 22:38:48 <Bugpowdr>	buy with cash on hand
Feb 27 22:38:51 <BitHub>	n00bs
Feb 27 22:38:53 <Bowjob>	yeah
Feb 27 22:38:54 <Bugpowdr>	then get the coins out
Feb 27 22:38:58 <BitHub>	bring wallstreet to bitcoin
Feb 27 22:39:00 <Bowjob>	that makes sense
Feb 27 22:39:01 <BitHub>	good work n0000bs
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Feb 27 22:39:13 <Bowjob>	.. i wont ever touch coinlab with a ten foot pole
Feb 27 22:39:16 <Bowjob>	that sicky
Feb 27 22:39:17 <Bugpowdr>	The cash for that buy was proablbly already in there
Feb 27 22:39:24 <BitHub>	same
Feb 27 22:39:28 <aiball>	so,  my mtgox purchase 6 months ago is on the IRS books now?
Feb 27 22:39:29 <Bugpowdr>	who knows, maybe they will do a good job
Feb 27 22:39:36 <Bugpowdr>	nah
Feb 27 22:39:38 <aethero>	aiball is it retroactive?
Feb 27 22:39:39 <BitHub>	nah
Feb 27 22:39:39 <Bowjob>	nah
Feb 27 22:39:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2457 @ 0.00074124 = 1.8212 BTC [-]
Feb 27 22:39:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00074124 = 7.4124 BTC [-]
Feb 27 22:39:44 <Bowjob>	it will be if you use coinlab
Feb 27 22:39:46 <Bugpowdr>	unless you are 50k
Feb 27 22:39:48 <BitHub>	they'll be the first to get slaughted
Feb 27 22:39:54 <Bugpowdr>	$50k+
Feb 27 22:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 618 @ 0.00073982 = 0.4572 BTC [-]
Feb 27 22:40:06 <Bugpowdr>	will be the first to be examined
Feb 27 22:40:09 <Bugpowdr>	then $10k+
Feb 27 22:40:16 <BitHub>	we're talking about taxes here
Feb 27 22:40:18 <Bugpowdr>	FACTA violators
Feb 27 22:40:18 <BitHub>	its game over
Feb 27 22:40:21 <Bugpowdr>	etc
Feb 27 22:40:27 <Bowjob>	if BTC gets high enough, the govt might actually dig through 100 dollar buys
Feb 27 22:40:32 <Bowjob>	and hunt those people
Feb 27 22:40:34 <aiball>	aethero  I was asking your question
Feb 27 22:40:38 <Bugpowdr>	i doubt it
Feb 27 22:40:44 <Bugpowdr>	just report it
Feb 27 22:40:59 <Bugpowdr>	buys don't matter anyway
Feb 27 22:40:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6795 BTC [-]
Feb 27 22:41:04 <Bugpowdr>	sales matter
Feb 27 22:41:35 <Bugpowdr>	unless they really are treating BTC as a foreign currency that is to be market to market at year end
Feb 27 22:42:12 <Bugpowdr>	If you want BTC to hit $1000, there are some things that are gonna have to happen first
Feb 27 22:43:10 <Chaang-Noi>	$1000 should be in 3 years or maybe more, lots of time
Feb 27 22:43:37 <Chaang-Noi>	what is better on linux a i3 2130 or an amd 955?
Feb 27 22:43:46 <Chaang-Noi>	most for doing btc stuff
Feb 27 22:43:48 <aiball>	Bugpowder I agree,  Like Butch and Sundance didn't need to keep watch until they had the payroll
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Feb 27 22:56:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.6795 = 4.077 BTC [-]
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Feb 27 23:03:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.278 BTC [-]
Feb 27 23:03:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.2701 = 0.5402 BTC [-]
Feb 27 23:04:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.27 = 1.89 BTC [-]
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Feb 27 23:05:47 <Bowjob>	mhm.. i wonder if this is allowed
Feb 27 23:06:04 <Bowjob>	i just cash in enough BTC to hit the limit of a poor person
Feb 27 23:06:09 <Bowjob>	so i wont have to pay income tas
Feb 27 23:06:10 <Bowjob>	x
Feb 27 23:06:23 <Bowjob>	but i have enough BTC worth hundreds of thousands of dollars
Feb 27 23:06:26 <Bowjob>	is that legit?
Feb 27 23:07:10 <Namworld>	If your BTC has appreciated in value, I think you don't need to declare that value increase until you sell them. So yes. But speak to an accountant.
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Feb 27 23:08:04 <Namworld>	It's like when you have income. You pay your taxes, then let's say you buy stocks. If they raise in value, you don't pay taxes on that until you sell, at which point the price difference becomes capital gains.
Feb 27 23:08:36 <ThickAsThieves>	IRS going back thru records is kinda pointless
Feb 27 23:08:36 <Namworld>	Laws & regulations vary by country/state tho
Feb 27 23:08:44 <ThickAsThieves>	no way for them to know how much btc you have
Feb 27 23:09:04 <ThickAsThieves>	they'd only care about coins sold
Feb 27 23:09:26 <ThickAsThieves>	income
Feb 27 23:09:38 <Namworld>	Probably that too.
Feb 27 23:10:57 <Bowjob>	i can sell around 13k
Feb 27 23:11:02 <Bowjob>	and wont have to work for the whole year
Feb 27 23:11:07 <Bowjob>	then i dont pay taxes
Feb 27 23:11:09 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 27 23:11:15 <Bowjob>	but what if i use btc directly
Feb 27 23:11:18 <Bowjob>	they wont know
Feb 27 23:11:37 <Namworld>	They might not but that's supposed to be declared.
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Feb 27 23:12:42 <Eduard_Munteanu>	The interesting thing is stock brokers here retain the tax as soon as you sell.
Feb 27 23:12:53 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Not the end of the year, or the month or anything. Immediately.
Feb 27 23:13:40 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Oh, they also report some stuff you still owe to the man.
Feb 27 23:14:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-]
Feb 27 23:15:08 <topace_>	hey mircea_popescu you there? still working on this auto-push-receipt processing...
Feb 27 23:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	topace_ ya ?
Feb 27 23:15:50 <topace_>	i cant just hash the receipt to get a unique id because  then doing something as simple as changing the comment  in th e sig would  change the hash and stilll  validate
Feb 27 23:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	change the comment in what sig ?
Feb 27 23:16:35 <topace_>	Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux)
Feb 27 23:16:47 <topace_>	i can change that line on the receipt and it still validates
Feb 27 23:17:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6214 @ 0.00074829 = 4.6499 BTC [+]
Feb 27 23:17:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.0007522 = 4.9645 BTC [+]
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Feb 27 23:17:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6935 @ 0.00075379 = 5.2275 BTC [+]
Feb 27 23:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	but you hash the signed part not the headers
Feb 27 23:17:24 <topace_>	and if i try to just grab the actual signature hash, that can still be changed adn still validate
Feb 27 23:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	how ?
Feb 27 23:17:45 <topace_>	iD8DBQFRJRZakhT8a/G2mSERAtfRAJ9LBtdI5x2a7WwNqZMTLLoaWV/rFACfRvtQ
Feb 27 23:17:45 <topace_>	n9TB69az5+U9gPxX7BRkrgg=
Feb 27 23:17:45 <topace_>	=DWpV
Feb 27 23:17:56 <topace_>	is the signature on this receipt
Feb 27 23:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	ok
Feb 27 23:18:05 <topace_>	if i add a 1 to teh end of it, it still validates
Feb 27 23:18:09 <topace_>	=DWpV1
Feb 27 23:18:11 <topace_>	as the last line
Feb 27 23:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	uhm
Feb 27 23:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	it validates with a broken checksum ?!
Feb 27 23:18:38 <mircea_popescu>	brb i gotta check this
Feb 27 23:18:45 <topace_>	i can actually add anything concatenated to the end
Feb 27 23:18:47 <topace_>	and it still validates
Feb 27 23:19:06 <topace_>	iD8DBQFRJRZakhT8a/G2mSERAtfRAJ9LBtdI5x2a7WwNqZMTLLoaWV/rFACfRvtQ
Feb 27 23:19:06 <topace_>	n9TB69az5+U9gPxX7BRkrgg=
Feb 27 23:19:06 <topace_>	=DWpVadsfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdf
Feb 27 23:19:06 <topace_>	-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Feb 27 23:19:11 <topace_>	validates too
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Feb 27 23:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	wait.
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Feb 27 23:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	none of this is actually a problem
Feb 27 23:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	the last line is always a =xyzk 4 characters checksum of the foregoing
Feb 27 23:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	if the checksum is broken it doesn't actually validate
Feb 27 23:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	if more shit is added at the end that doesn't actually matter.
Feb 27 23:22:58 <topace_>	ahh, so I should only be considering the 2 lines of the  signature hash?
Feb 27 23:23:02 <topace_>	is it always 2 lines?
Feb 27 23:23:07 <topace_>	(with a 3rd as checksum?)
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Feb 27 23:23:35 <topace_>	hmm nope, i can concatenate the two lines into one and it validates.. i can combine all 3 lines onto one, and it validates too...
Feb 27 23:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	the structure of a gpg signed message is, there's a header (begin blabla, comment whatever), then a message, then a signature ehader, then the signature
Feb 27 23:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	which may be however long, mine are usually 6 lines
Feb 27 23:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	and then a 1 line checksum as a =4char
Feb 27 23:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	and then a close
Feb 27 23:25:12 <topace_>	does the = at the end of the sig (before the checksum) designate the end of the signature?
Feb 27 23:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	no, that's base64 filler
Feb 27 23:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	you can have 0, 1 or 2
Feb 27 23:26:25 <topace_>	so how can i reliably filter out just the signature? if there's no  logical separator?
Feb 27 23:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	the gpg parser mostly ignores spaces/newlines/etc EXCEPT it wants a newline after the begin sig tag
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Feb 27 23:27:23 <topace_>	all on one line:  iD8DBQFRJRZakhT8a/G2mSERAtfRAJ9LBtdI5x2a7WwNqZMTLLoaWV/rFACfRvtQn9TB69az5+U9gPxX7BRkrgg==DWpV
Feb 27 23:27:25 <topace_>	validates too
Feb 27 23:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	put it on the same line with -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Feb 27 23:28:05 <topace_>	so if there can be crap after the end, how do i know where to stop reading characters that are actually part of the signature
Feb 27 23:28:48 <topace_>	yea it definitely needs a blank line after the BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE line
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Feb 27 23:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
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Feb 27 23:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	within the signature block, a =j61e type string is the end (cause it's the checksum)
Feb 27 23:29:39 <topace_>	but if there's no way of knowing how long the signature is expected to be, and  it allows adding crap at the end, again, how do i know where to stop reading the characters of the 'actual' signature
Feb 27 23:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	cause when you reach the checksum it's ended
Feb 27 23:30:27 <topace_>	but how can you be sure you've reached the checksum?
Feb 27 23:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	because it's a 5 char string starting with =
Feb 27 23:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	(the = char may not be part of the signature cause it's not in the base64 list)
Feb 27 23:31:16 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;ticker
Feb 27 23:31:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.14001, Best ask: 32.35299, Bid-ask spread: 0.21298, Last trade: 32.35599, 24 hour volume: 81740.26344155, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 33.20000, 24 hour vwap: 31.94954
Feb 27 23:32:19 <topace_>	so i'd also have to trim off the = before the =4chr
Feb 27 23:32:25 <topace_>	because it can be there or not and it still validates
Feb 27 23:32:28 <topace_>	iD8DBQFRJRZakhT8a/G2mSERAtfRAJ9LBtdI5x2a7WwNqZMTLLoaWV/rFACfRvtQn9TB69az5+U9gPxX7BRkrgg==DWpV
Feb 27 23:32:31 <topace_>	iD8DBQFRJRZakhT8a/G2mSERAtfRAJ9LBtdI5x2a7WwNqZMTLLoaWV/rFACfRvtQn9TB69az5+U9gPxX7BRkrgg=DWpV
Feb 27 23:32:34 <topace_>	both validate
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Feb 27 23:32:52 <topace_>	as does
Feb 27 23:32:57 <topace_>	iD8DBQFRJRZakhT8a/G2mSERAtfRAJ9LBtdI5x2a7WwNqZMTLLoaWV/rFACfRvtQn9TB69az5+U9gPxX7BRkrgg==========DWpV
Feb 27 23:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	yes, because = is padding in base64
Feb 27 23:34:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 13 @ 0.35 = 4.55 BTC [+]
Feb 27 23:34:04 <mircea_popescu>	=*\w{4} would be the regex
Feb 27 23:34:42 <topace_>	okay, so im just doing  /\n([A-Z0-9]+)/ ?
Feb 27 23:34:53 <topace_>	then using that as my unique identifier to ensure i never double-process the same receipt?
Feb 27 23:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	well no.
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Feb 27 23:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	basically, here's what you do :
Feb 27 23:37:51 <mircea_popescu>	1. you look for -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----. if not found, kill the task. if found :
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Feb 27 23:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	2. you wipe the first line after it no matter what it contains, and as many empty lines only after that
Feb 27 23:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	3. you look for the -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- tag.
Feb 27 23:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	4. you wipe the first line after it no matter what it contains, and as many empty lines only after that
Feb 27 23:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	5. you look for an = and wipe everything from that point forward (including it)
Feb 27 23:39:50 <mircea_popescu>	6. you wipe all space/newline in your string
Feb 27 23:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	7. i hope i've not forgotten anything
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Feb 27 23:40:32 <topace_>	yea.. okay that makes sense..
Feb 27 23:40:55 <topace_>	so i end up with just iD8DBQFRJRZakhT8a/G2mSERAtfRAJ9LBtdI5x2a7WwNqZMTLLoaWV/rFACfRvtQn9TB69az5+U9gPxX7BRkrgg
Feb 27 23:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 27 23:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	is mpex signature seriously that short ?!
Feb 27 23:41:32 <topace_>	heh ya
Feb 27 23:41:38 <mircea_popescu>	no wonder im changing it.
Feb 27 23:41:43 <topace_>	on the push receipt im using as a sample at least
Feb 27 23:42:24 <topace_>	then i should still take a hash of the signature, and use the hash as my unique identifier?
Feb 27 23:43:07 <mircea_popescu>	well, i guess you can use the signature only.
Feb 27 23:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	tho i'd imagine a whole message digest works too
Feb 27 23:44:32 <jurov>	interesting, this signature stuff
Feb 27 23:45:01 <topace_>	if you sign the same thing multiple times, the signature will always be different though, right?
Feb 27 23:45:38 <topace_>	if i was going to do a digest of the whole message, i'd have to do it based on a post-processed data (removing the comments and the blank lines, etc)
Feb 27 23:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	if you sign the same thing multiple times the sig will be different yes
Feb 27 23:46:23 <topace_>	becuase one stray \n would cause a different digest for the same receipt
Feb 27 23:47:21 <topace_>	okay excellent, i think that gives me enough to get this implemented tomorrow.. bedtime now! thanks for your help!
Feb 27 23:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	as long as you wipe the comment lines
Feb 27 23:47:54 <mircea_popescu>	(one after begin message tag, one after begin signature tag) and non-base64 chars you should be ok.
Feb 27 23:47:57 <topace_>	oo actually gnupg_verify() will return the plaintext portion of hte message for me (but not the signature portion)
Feb 27 23:48:13 <mircea_popescu>	i think it returns the sig digest too
Feb 27 23:48:40 <topace_>	nope.. just the fingerprint
Feb 27 23:51:16 <ThickAsThieves>	BFL wired chip: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/dbtgallery.php?do=gallery_image&id=596&gal=gallery&type=full
Feb 27 23:51:16 <topace_>	im out.. g'nite!
Feb 27 23:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves that looks ready for delivery
Feb 27 23:54:23 <jurov>	OIX looks nice... lol, good it wasn't around last weekend when i did my assorted next month calls shopping
Feb 27 23:55:10 <jurov>	they had breakeven around 50 :D
Feb 27 23:57:24 <ThickAsThieves>	in other news, a new jimi hendrix album
Feb 27 23:57:28 <ThickAsThieves>	heh
Feb 27 23:57:39 <ThickAsThieves>	sounds pretty good too, if you like jimi
Feb 28 00:02:00 <jurov>	mircea_popescu i see my coinlab bet proposal being refunded, why?
Feb 28 00:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	mmm no idea
Feb 28 00:02:52 <jurov>	or it was just already paid out? lol
Feb 28 00:02:53 <ThickAsThieves>	kako no like
Feb 28 00:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	um. link ? or be speciffic.
Feb 28 00:04:11 <jurov>	i'll try to reconstruct it from memory: CoinLab will close or cease bitcoin payments by end of this year
Feb 28 00:04:47 <jurov>	bet will resolve as YEs when coinlab.com will be unavailable through 7 days straight, too.
Feb 28 00:04:53 <jurov>	^ that
Feb 28 00:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	what time did you put it in ?
Feb 28 00:11:10 <jurov>	<jurov> [21:52:28 CET] what do you think about bet: CoinLab will close or cease bitcoin payments by June ?
Feb 28 00:11:31 <jurov>	i did it awhile after that
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Feb 28 00:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	ah ok
Feb 28 00:12:34 <mircea_popescu>	looking into this
Feb 28 00:13:07 <jurov>	i suspect i may have mixed coinbase/coinlab..
Feb 28 00:13:57 <jurov>	maybe after a while i get so confused so i'll mention coinbr along with them it and havoc ensues :D
Feb 28 00:14:06 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Feb 28 00:21:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8970 @ 0.0007 = 6.279 BTC [-]
Feb 28 00:21:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8615 @ 0.0007 = 6.0305 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 00:27:15 <jurov>	http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/in-bid-for-credibility-largest-bitcoin-exchange-moves-to-silicon-valley/
Feb 28 00:27:38 <jurov>	ars managed to put a foot into their mouth as well
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Feb 28 00:28:09 <jurov>	almost as if coinlab bought mtgox
Feb 28 00:29:08 <jurov>	And placing the exchange's funds within US jurisdiction will make it harder for the firm to disappear with customers' cash.
Feb 28 00:29:18 <jurov>	ftw
Feb 28 00:30:37 <kakobrekla>	jurov are you already or still up this morning
Feb 28 00:30:52 <toffoo>	ThickAsThieves: where did you get it?
Feb 28 00:30:56 <jurov>	still up, unfortunately
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Feb 28 00:31:23 <kakobrekla>	aha so its you, mircea and me, the three fucked yuropean
Feb 28 00:31:31 <kakobrekla>	or am i missing someone
Feb 28 00:31:39 <kakobrekla>	yuropeans*
Feb 28 00:31:47 <jurov>	yup
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Feb 28 00:32:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/introducing-the-oix/
Feb 28 00:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	updated with a historical oix graph
Feb 28 00:32:29 <mircea_popescu>	which is kinda cool
Feb 28 00:34:03 <ThickAsThieves>	toffoo, where did i get what
Feb 28 00:34:09 <jurov>	hate to nitpick, but 10 decimal places? two are sufficient for such index
Feb 28 00:34:39 <jurov>	(unless btc falls below 1, ofc)
Feb 28 00:34:43 <mircea_popescu>	jurov no, 10 decimals!!1
Feb 28 00:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	satoshicents
Feb 28 00:35:07 <kakobrekla>	yeah that is ridiculus.
Feb 28 00:35:37 <kakobrekla>	at least make it 8
Feb 28 00:35:45 <jurov>	i stand corrected. i can now imagine the hysteria on #assets "crash!! oix down 0.5 satoshi!!"
Feb 28 00:36:01 <mircea_popescu>	teh end of the werlds
Feb 28 00:36:06 <jurov>	as soon as bowjob learns about it
Feb 28 00:36:16 <toffoo>	ThickAsThieves: your new hendrix album
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Feb 28 00:36:20 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly, i envisage this being used as a replacement for satoshi dice random number generator
Feb 28 00:37:14 <jurov>	not sure if serious
Feb 28 00:37:34 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Feb 28 00:37:40 <kakobrekla>	this is getting hot-er
Feb 28 00:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol at leet bet
Feb 28 00:40:03 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.npr.org/2013/02/27/172992228/first-listen-jimi-hendrix-people-hell-and-angels?sc=fb&cc=fmp
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Feb 28 00:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	BFL_Josh
Feb 28 00:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	Chips almost bumped, shipping on week of 4 - or 11 at the latest
Feb 28 00:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	what, srsly ?
Feb 28 00:40:23 <jurov>	let the trolls descend http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/introducing-the-oix/
Feb 28 00:40:34 <jurov>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19dqcd/mpoe_introduced_bitcoin_price_sentiment_indicator/
Feb 28 00:40:39 <jurov>	^ i meant this
Feb 28 00:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Feb 28 00:41:20 <jurov>	yup it used the graph as thumbnail
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Feb 28 00:52:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00072 = 0.0036 BTC [+]
Feb 28 00:56:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.00643 = 0.9645 BTC [-]
Feb 28 00:56:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/
Feb 28 00:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	improved by user request
Feb 28 00:57:00 <kakobrekla>	cool!
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Feb 28 01:01:48 <jurov>	in the parentheses are next month/this month?
Feb 28 01:03:21 <jurov>	but then, 23.73 seems too low
Feb 28 01:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	no it's calls / puts
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Feb 28 01:07:45 <jurov>	good mornin Chaang-Noi
Feb 28 01:07:53 <kakobrekla>	tanking nao
Feb 28 01:09:30 <jurov>	we'll see when americans "wake up to" it
Feb 28 01:09:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 28 01:09:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.10207, Best ask: 32.26999, Bid-ask spread: 0.16792, Last trade: 32.26999, 24 hour volume: 83302.39912401, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 33.20000, 24 hour vwap: 31.96821
Feb 28 01:09:56 <kakobrekla>	well i was trying to be funny
Feb 28 01:09:59 <kakobrekla>	is all
Feb 28 01:10:25 <kakobrekla>	since sleeping goats have positive effects of crypto currencies price
Feb 28 01:13:14 <jurov>	what we do with goats when they wake up?
Feb 28 01:13:19 <jurov>	we milk them!
Feb 28 01:13:29 <kakobrekla>	i thought we sacrifice them
Feb 28 01:13:34 <kakobrekla>	for gods n stuff
Feb 28 01:13:34 <jurov>	lmao
Feb 28 01:13:46 <kakobrekla>	but yeah, get the milk first
Feb 28 01:13:53 <kakobrekla>	no point in waisting that.
Feb 28 01:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;google goatfucker
Feb 28 01:14:11 <gribble>	Urban Dictionary: goatfucker: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goatfucker>; The Goat Fucker | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/GoatMagnet>; Goatfucker.com | Fucking everything, one goat at a time!: <http://goatfucker.wordpress.com/>
Feb 28 01:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	ungulates only produce milk if they're pregnant you know.
Feb 28 01:16:37 <jurov>	hm, i milked goats late in summer myself... and i know they give milk for whole year
Feb 28 01:17:38 <jurov>	dunno about fucking. was never so desperate.
Feb 28 01:18:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/#c218
Feb 28 01:18:28 <mircea_popescu>	7.4 : 6.19
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Feb 28 01:22:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00072 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 01:33:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00545 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 01:36:30 <Bowjob>	http://xkcd.com/980/huge/#x=-11316&y=-1194&z=5
Feb 28 01:36:38 <Bowjob>	damn. we are a tiny dot in comparison
Feb 28 01:39:19 <kakobrekla>	smartphone average monthly fee 110 usd wtf?
Feb 28 01:39:44 <Chaang-Noi>	hi jurov :)
Feb 28 01:40:35 <Bowjob>	now if that turns to btc
Feb 28 01:40:38 <Chaang-Noi>	milking goats? you had best be a hot female if you are going to try to milk me!
Feb 28 01:40:40 <Bowjob>	prolly not but damn
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Feb 28 01:54:47 <Diablo-D3>	http://boingboing.net/2013/02/27/introducing-mandroid-google.html
Feb 28 01:55:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.0022 = 0.0044 BTC [+]
Feb 28 01:55:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 26 @ 0.00545 = 0.1417 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 02:22:33 <dub>	wow
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Feb 28 02:22:41 <dub>	not that far off 1%
Feb 28 02:23:05 <Namworld>	?
Feb 28 02:23:11 <dub>	what the fuck am i doing here ? :)
Feb 28 02:23:30 <BitHub>	i dont know
Feb 28 02:23:37 <BitHub>	i miss going out talking to girls
Feb 28 02:24:08 <BitHub>	before Lord Satoshi consumed my soul
Feb 28 02:25:06 <dub>	I thought the bar for being a 1% was higher
Feb 28 02:34:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 14 @ 0.00072 = 0.0101 BTC [+]
Feb 28 02:37:31 <dub>	I guess 1% US != 1% in a functioning economy
Feb 28 02:37:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.00073 = 0.0876 BTC [+]
Feb 28 02:39:24 <dub>	heh lifetime cost to avoid changing your oil by abandoning you car and buying a new one every 5000 miles 3.27m
Feb 28 02:40:03 <dub>	balling
Feb 28 02:53:15 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Feb 28 02:53:36 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223547 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 228 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 5 hours, 54 minutes, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4406086.60159 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.68125
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Feb 28 03:16:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11000 @ 0.0063799 = 70.1789 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 04:00:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6664999 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 04:02:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.0022 = 0.022 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 04:38:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 17.25 = 34.5 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 04:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9555 @ 0.00073979 = 7.0687 BTC [-]
Feb 28 04:58:13 <BitHub>	how do i feature the mpex and havelock tickers to my own site?
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Feb 28 05:06:51 <BitHub>	where does assbot get its data from?
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Feb 28 05:09:36 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 28 05:09:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.87000, Best ask: 32.95898, Bid-ask spread: 0.08898, Last trade: 32.87000, 24 hour volume: 86512.19293618, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 33.20000, 24 hour vwap: 32.04595
Feb 28 05:09:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1 @ 0.15476475 BTC [+]
Feb 28 05:09:44 <Bowjob>	Jesus
Feb 28 05:10:41 <Bowjob>	We will be the new wealthy elite
Feb 28 05:10:44 <Bowjob>	>:D
Feb 28 05:11:20 <Bowjob>	where owning 10 BTC will let you buy a mansion, a yacht, lambo, ect
Feb 28 05:12:32 <BitHub>	and the government put you in jail for tax evasion
Feb 28 05:13:02 <BitHub>	but meh we can afford lawyers by then
Feb 28 05:14:45 <Bowjob>	yeah, 1 btc for congress
Feb 28 05:18:51 <BitHub>	i wish i didn't give away so many bitcoin donations, opps
Feb 28 05:19:02 <BitHub>	throwing around 1btc like it was nothing
Feb 28 05:19:05 <Bowjob>	"CoinLab's trading platform averages 80% of daily global Bitcoin liquidity. We can partner with financial institutions, enterprises and high net-worth individuals to get you access to the Bitcoins you need. "
Feb 28 05:19:18 <Bowjob>	Bitcoin becoming centralized?
Feb 28 05:19:22 <BitHub>	yep
Feb 28 05:19:28 <BitHub>	and full of wallstreet sharks
Feb 28 05:19:32 <BitHub>	great isn't it
Feb 28 05:19:51 <Bowjob>	imo we should get more bitcoins, let those rich people pump the price
Feb 28 05:20:19 <BitHub>	hmmm
Feb 28 05:20:25 <Bowjob>	I wonder if satoshi will go back.. if he likes where this is going
Feb 28 05:20:40 <Bowjob>	im considering another $1000 investment
Feb 28 05:20:41 <Bowjob>	gah
Feb 28 05:20:47 <Bowjob>	I should have put 10 grand in
Feb 28 05:20:56 <Bowjob>	woulda been ballin by now
Feb 28 05:21:12 <BitHub>	i do that every 2 weeks
Feb 28 05:21:21 <BitHub>	best thing to do right now, turn all fiat into btc
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Feb 28 05:21:43 <BitHub>	leverage it against cash when i need it and have been stretching my money real far so far
Feb 28 05:21:53 <Bowjob>	mhm
Feb 28 05:22:03 <Bowjob>	but I want to see lots of fiat in my bank account
Feb 28 05:22:04 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 28 05:22:14 <Bowjob>	its hard.. i still think of my wealth in fiat terms
Feb 28 05:22:54 <Bowjob>	if those wallstreet people start playing with bitcoins
Feb 28 05:22:55 <Bowjob>	damn
Feb 28 05:23:04 <Bowjob>	$100 bitcoins wont be our problem
Feb 28 05:23:39 <Bowjob>	im waiting for yifu so i can start printing my own money
Feb 28 05:25:31 <nOgAnOo>	Sell when it's high!
Feb 28 05:26:08 <Bowjob>	we can easily reach $37 at this point
Feb 28 05:26:15 <Bowjob>	come on, this is too easy. put some barrier in
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Feb 28 05:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.0007356 = 4.8917 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 06:22:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00675 = 0.0945 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 06:31:21 <mjr_>	hi everyone
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Feb 28 06:33:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 64 @ 0.35 = 22.4 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 06:53:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.0007356 = 1.3609 BTC [-]
Feb 28 06:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00073196 = 1.8665 BTC [-]
Feb 28 06:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3391 @ 0.00073014 = 2.4759 BTC [-]
Feb 28 07:00:02 <leotreasure>	has anyone else got a dividend from asicmining just now?
Feb 28 07:00:50 <leotreasure>	i got a very small amount
Feb 28 07:01:01 <leotreasure>	figure it's just a test payment maybe
Feb 28 07:05:39 <BitHub>	yep
Feb 28 07:05:43 <BitHub>	confirm i did
Feb 28 07:07:09 <leotreasure>	did you get a tiny payment like 0.0000something?
Feb 28 07:07:45 <BitHub>	yep with the 5 on the end
Feb 28 07:08:07 <leotreasure>	ok do you know if there's significance about the last digit?
Feb 28 07:08:22 <leotreasure>	can you confirm it is a test payment?
Feb 28 07:08:48 <leotreasure>	mine ended in 8
Feb 28 07:10:51 <leotreasure>	i just found out
Feb 28 07:10:56 <leotreasure>	it is a test payment
Feb 28 07:11:04 <leotreasure>	makes sense
Feb 28 07:11:31 <leotreasure>	thought it was a bit low for a real dividend
Feb 28 07:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 413 @ 0.00073979 = 0.3055 BTC [+]
Feb 28 07:22:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00858 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 07:36:46 <mjr_>	i like the OIX
Feb 28 07:38:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 217 @ 0.01 = 2.17 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 07:41:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 443 @ 0.00675 = 2.9903 BTC [+]
Feb 28 07:45:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 155 @ 0.00642 = 0.9951 BTC [-]
Feb 28 07:47:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 62 @ 0.35 = 21.7 BTC [+]
Feb 28 07:52:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.295 = 2.065 BTC [+]
Feb 28 07:52:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.29799 = 0.596 BTC [+]
Feb 28 07:53:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.298 = 0.596 BTC [+]
Feb 28 07:54:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [+]
Feb 28 07:55:38 <Chaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1567419#msg1567419     confirm your asicminer shares if you have them :)
Feb 28 08:03:37 <mjr_>	is asicminer listed anywhere?
Feb 28 08:14:31 <Diablo-D3>	not yet
Feb 28 08:14:36 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: btw, did they just send a dividend?
Feb 28 08:15:12 <Diablo-D3>	oh! its a test send!
Feb 28 08:15:13 <Chaang-Noi>	test dividends
Feb 28 08:15:20 <Chaang-Noi>	just make sure its correct
Feb 28 08:15:23 <Diablo-D3>	why the fuck didnt the forum email of this thread being updated
Feb 28 08:15:34 <Chaang-Noi>	what?
Feb 28 08:15:38 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
Feb 28 08:15:40 <Chaang-Noi>	no idea
Feb 28 08:15:48 <Chaang-Noi>	but i did a psa:)
Feb 28 08:33:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder what the dividend will be
Feb 28 08:33:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i hope it is damn close to .1
Feb 28 08:34:27 <ThickAsThieves>	621.48 BTC was added to the wallet he sent the confirmations from
Feb 28 08:34:45 <ThickAsThieves>	if that means anyhing
Feb 28 08:34:57 <ThickAsThieves>	(after he sent confs)
Feb 28 08:35:26 <ThickAsThieves>	which is pretty far from .1 so we'll see
Feb 28 08:35:45 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Feb 28 08:36:22 <Chaang-Noi>	;;calc 621/200000
Feb 28 08:36:22 <gribble>	0.003105
Feb 28 08:36:34 <Chaang-Noi>	well, i bet that might be around it
Feb 28 08:36:50 <Chaang-Noi>	that is fine and still good assuming he has paid all debt we owe
Feb 28 08:37:04 <Chaang-Noi>	oh wait, i forgot to look at a 0
Feb 28 08:37:05 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Feb 28 08:39:32 <ThickAsThieves>	thats right
Feb 28 08:39:37 <ThickAsThieves>	.003105
Feb 28 08:39:50 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, im my mind i saw .03
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Feb 28 08:40:07 <Chaang-Noi>	sadly i think he will post when im sleeping :/
Feb 28 08:40:16 <Bicknellski>	wassup
Feb 28 08:40:27 <Bicknellski>	.... the Bitcoin...
Feb 28 08:40:42 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
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Feb 28 08:42:52 <Bicknellski>	Hey...
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Feb 28 08:46:27 <ThickAsThieves>	33.2
Feb 28 08:47:30 <Bicknellski>	I bought more today at 32.06
Feb 28 08:47:46 <Chaang-Noi>	keep it up:)
Feb 28 08:48:00 <Bicknellski>	couldn't sit on the sidelines anymore
Feb 28 08:48:06 <Bicknellski>	feeling all itchy
Feb 28 08:50:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.6664999 = 4.6655 BTC [-]
Feb 28 08:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.66666667 = 5.3333 BTC [+]
Feb 28 08:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.6685 = 4.011 BTC [+]
Feb 28 08:50:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.669 = 6.021 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 08:51:24 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4039042/bitcoin-value-reaches-new-high-against-us-dollar
Feb 28 08:51:55 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm urprised theverge hasnt covered the coinlab thing yet
Feb 28 08:52:06 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe theyre working on a feature article
Feb 28 08:52:29 <Chaang-Noi>	rally:)
Feb 28 08:53:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.669 = 4.683 BTC [+]
Feb 28 08:58:04 <Bicknellski>	Time to extrapolate...
Feb 28 08:58:10 <Bicknellski>	Im a millionaire...
Feb 28 08:58:12 <Bicknellski>	lol
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Feb 28 09:00:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 28 09:00:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.31000, Best ask: 33.33999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 33.34000, 24 hour volume: 88430.09843827, 24 hour low: 30.82300, 24 hour high: 33.34998, 24 hour vwap: 32.20188
Feb 28 09:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 4 @ 0.18339423 = 0.7336 BTC [-]
Feb 28 09:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 2 @ 0.18076231 = 0.3615 BTC [-]
Feb 28 09:13:59 <Chaang-Noi>	go btc go
Feb 28 09:14:09 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Feb 28 09:14:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.51000, Best ask: 33.54461, Bid-ask spread: 0.03461, Last trade: 33.51000, 24 hour volume: 89307.69144176, 24 hour low: 30.90000, 24 hour high: 33.54462, 24 hour vwap: 32.22276
Feb 28 09:14:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00616002 = 12.32 BTC [-]
Feb 28 09:14:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00596002 = 11.92 BTC [-]
Feb 28 09:19:07 <Bicknellski>	somebody must be priming this pump
Feb 28 09:22:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 145 @ 0.00642 = 0.9309 BTC [-]
Feb 28 09:23:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.00675 = 1.0125 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 09:28:37 <Chaang-Noi>	btc, jesus $50 here we come
Feb 28 09:29:03 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Feb28 14:28:23 mtgox            20.0000 @    33.69505    USD
Feb 28 09:29:15 <swhitt>	;;bc,stats
Feb 28 09:29:19 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223587 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 188 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 3 hours, 10 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4386294.31419 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.13915
Feb 28 09:30:04 <splnkr>	what's up with this steady rise? has anyone ever looked at whether price is correlated to network difficulty?
Feb 28 09:30:32 <thestringpuller>	splnkr: its not
Feb 28 09:30:53 <thestringpuller>	price is correlated to the index of the economy's current value
Feb 28 09:31:05 <splnkr>	ok
Feb 28 09:31:26 <splnkr>	so has anyone looked at whether there is a correlation between the economy's current value and the network difficulty then?
Feb 28 09:31:30 <Bicknellski>	There is a lot of volume
Feb 28 09:31:36 <Bicknellski>	and activity in BTC
Feb 28 09:31:48 <splnkr>	so it's more about the trading than the mining?
Feb 28 09:31:52 <Bicknellski>	so that will translate to increase price
Feb 28 09:31:58 <Bicknellski>	yes
Feb 28 09:32:08 <splnkr>	sorry for all the questions, i'm new to bitcoin, but not traditional finance
Feb 28 09:32:11 <Bicknellski>	and the fact there is a limited very limited amount of bTc
Feb 28 09:32:23 <Bicknellski>	me too... so ignore my answers
Feb 28 09:32:25 <Bicknellski>	;)
Feb 28 09:32:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 14 @ 0.01 = 0.14 BTC [+]
Feb 28 09:32:58 <Bicknellski>	what is the market cap?
Feb 28 09:33:37 <Bugpowder>	361,287,201 USD
Feb 28 09:33:42 <aiball>	seems the price moves up when a company announces that they accept it.  Price goes down when a bit scam or big hack is announced.
Feb 28 09:33:42 <Bicknellski>	so...
Feb 28 09:34:33 <splnkr>	so maybe external factors have the most influence?
Feb 28 09:34:43 <splnkr>	that makes it a totally different game once again
Feb 28 09:35:06 <aiball>	if you're measuring by external factors yes
Feb 28 09:35:17 <splnkr>	well, on price specifically
Feb 28 09:36:44 <splnkr>	but now that i think of it more, i can see why network difficulty is irrelevant since new bitcoins are generated at a more or less steady rate….but then, there's the reward reduction thing
Feb 28 09:36:59 <splnkr>	maybe the recent drop from 50 to 25 btc has something to do with this phenomenon
Feb 28 09:37:02 <splnkr>	as a reward
Feb 28 09:37:05 <Bugpowder>	probably
Feb 28 09:37:10 <splnkr>	that is my theory now. run with it!
Feb 28 09:37:13 <Bugpowder>	it cut inflation rate in half overnight
Feb 28 09:37:57 <splnkr>	why is this more interesting than business school
Feb 28 09:37:57 <splnkr>	lol
Feb 28 09:39:34 <ThickAsThieves>	the simplest answer is coinlab news, why not go with that?
Feb 28 09:39:37 <aiball>	people in recent the past have been realizing that half their net worth is in bitcoin, so they randomly dump.  That will be less and less of a factor
Feb 28 09:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00596 = 59.6 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 09:42:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.661 = 5.288 BTC [-]
Feb 28 09:42:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.641 = 3.846 BTC [-]
Feb 28 09:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6335 = 1.9005 BTC [-]
Feb 28 09:42:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 51 @ 0.6325 = 32.2575 BTC [-]
Feb 28 09:42:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 32 @ 0.632 = 20.224 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 09:49:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 28 09:49:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.54993, Best ask: 33.72942, Bid-ask spread: 0.17949, Last trade: 33.54992, 24 hour volume: 90742.57273383, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 33.77449, 24 hour vwap: 32.28487
Feb 28 09:50:20 <thestringpuller>	42 is the magic number
Feb 28 09:51:33 <Diablo-D3>	the fuck
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Feb 28 09:54:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.00675 = 1.0125 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 10:01:03 <ThickAsThieves>	https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130228.html
Feb 28 10:03:34 <Troic_>	no, or little detail of the benefits to mtgox for this move. I suppose getting rid of having to interact with people is a plus.
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Feb 28 10:04:28 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 34.00
Feb 28 10:04:30 <gribble>	There are currently 1585.9378 bitcoins offered at or under 34.0 USD, worth 53809.8203493 USD in total.
Feb 28 10:04:40 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 35.00
Feb 28 10:04:42 <gribble>	There are currently 6174.7268 bitcoins offered at or under 35.0 USD, worth 213062.369465 USD in total.
Feb 28 10:04:47 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 40.00
Feb 28 10:04:49 <gribble>	There are currently 26152.852 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 967617.475501 USD in total.
Feb 28 10:06:45 <thestringpuller>	;;market --buy 1000000
Feb 28 10:06:47 <gribble>	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 68562.596 bitcoins, for a total of 16193230367637.2344 USD and take the price to 13370133701337.0000.
Feb 28 10:07:04 <thestringpuller>	;;market --buy 10000
Feb 28 10:07:05 <gribble>	A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 349600.9532 USD and would take the last price up to 36.6755 USD, resulting in an average price of 34.9601 USD/BTC.
Feb 28 10:07:16 <thestringpuller>	;;market --buy 100000
Feb 28 10:07:17 <gribble>	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 68562.596 bitcoins, for a total of 16193230367637.2344 USD and take the price to 13370133701337.0000.
Feb 28 10:07:34 <thestringpuller>	LOL
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Feb 28 10:12:43 <ThickAsThieves>	leet!
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Feb 28 10:13:34 <ThickAsThieves>	coinlab seems to have removed the "But $1m" buttons
Feb 28 10:13:37 <ThickAsThieves>	Buy*
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Feb 28 10:20:16 <Bicknellski>	;;ticker
Feb 28 10:20:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.30052, Best ask: 33.54772, Bid-ask spread: 0.24720, Last trade: 33.54895, 24 hour volume: 92855.71018027, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 33.83941, 24 hour vwap: 32.33414
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Feb 28 10:37:19 <Bicknellski>	so... where will it top and rest?
Feb 28 10:37:25 <Bicknellski>	40?
Feb 28 10:37:29 <Bicknellski>	50?
Feb 28 10:38:35 <mjr_>	oh yeah...we can totally call the top
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Feb 28 10:38:51 <mjr_>	42.28 will be the top :)
Feb 28 10:39:02 <mjr_>	lol, jk
Feb 28 10:39:11 <mjr_>	it mostly depends on what time frame you are referencing
Feb 28 10:39:24 <mjr_>	i could see $100 by Jan 2014
Feb 28 10:39:52 <mjr_>	is jurov here?
Feb 28 10:40:40 <Bicknellski>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0f4a2c2c3c08c90e507274ef266ab963476eace37d5e62f5c95006ce
Feb 28 10:40:40 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Feb 28 10:43:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 795 @ 0.00642 = 5.1039 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 10:49:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00073 = 0.73 BTC [+]
Feb 28 10:53:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00580006 = 0.58 BTC [-]
Feb 28 10:53:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 662 @ 0.00580004 = 3.8396 BTC [-]
Feb 28 10:57:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 200 @ 0.22035473 = 44.0709 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 10:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 28 10:59:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.60110, Best ask: 33.60111, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 33.60111, 24 hour volume: 94092.99709452, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 33.83941, 24 hour vwap: 32.37123
Feb 28 10:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	le wow.
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Feb 28 11:04:50 <mod6>	she bangs
Feb 28 11:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	this month is already 10% up it hasn't even started.
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Feb 28 11:06:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_Bangs
Feb 28 11:07:03 <mircea_popescu>	what do you know, retardopedia has a 5000 word entry on the topic.
Feb 28 11:07:35 <mod6>	haha, here's the original vid quite the laugh: http://youtu.be/0d5eP0wWLQY
Feb 28 11:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	i remember teenybopers were crazy about it not so long ago.
Feb 28 11:09:03 <mod6>	i remember watching that on tv like omg SHE BANGS! this kid is on turbo mode.
Feb 28 11:09:54 <mod6>	epic fails are epic
Feb 28 11:10:05 <blu3gr1ffon>	;ticker
Feb 28 11:10:09 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;ticker
Feb 28 11:10:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.66888, Best ask: 33.88997, Bid-ask spread: 0.22109, Last trade: 33.66888, 24 hour volume: 95511.46006840, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 33.89000, 24 hour vwap: 32.39862
Feb 28 11:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	so bfl delivered yet ?
Feb 28 11:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ lol 11:7 against for april. mmmmkay
Feb 28 11:11:36 <mod6>	lol: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144422.msg1568000#msg1568000
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Feb 28 11:23:41 <thestringpuller>	mod6
Feb 28 11:23:49 <thestringpuller>	i need to talk witchoo
Feb 28 11:26:49 <mod6>	yoh ok
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Feb 28 11:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol as a result of the discussions here, mtgox came out with a forum post in support of coinbase.
Feb 28 11:32:53 <Bugpowdrr>	coinlab?
Feb 28 11:33:24 <nOgAnOo>	http://bitcoinmagazine.com/coinlab-bringing-bitcoin-to-wall-street-with-mtgox-deal/
Feb 28 11:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdrr http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/ycombinator-continues-to-suck-jointly-and-severally/#comment-92223
Feb 28 11:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	i find from commenters.
Feb 28 11:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	nOgAnOo you're about a day late ?
Feb 28 11:34:13 <nOgAnOo>	I just rejoined bitcoin today
Feb 28 11:34:15 <nOgAnOo>	after 3 years
Feb 28 11:34:16 <nOgAnOo>	thank you
Feb 28 11:34:25 <nOgAnOo>	Sorry I'm 24 hours late on the news post
Feb 28 11:34:29 <nOgAnOo>	Oh master of bitcoins.
Feb 28 11:34:42 <nOgAnOo>	Was trying to help.
Feb 28 11:34:47 <nOgAnOo>	I sincerely apologize.
Feb 28 11:34:49 <thestringpuller>	lol mircea_popescu the btc Fed chair
Feb 28 11:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	nOgAnOo now now, don't get excited. how was your vacation ?
Feb 28 11:35:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea benaneke i will call him
Feb 28 11:35:11 <nOgAnOo>	Sad, I have .43
Feb 28 11:35:14 <mircea_popescu>	aw!
Feb 28 11:35:20 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i dun has a heli.
Feb 28 11:35:30 <nOgAnOo>	I just updated my client from .3.20
Feb 28 11:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	"Liquidity requires symmetric information, which is easiest to achieve when everyone is ignorant. This determines the design of many securities, including the design of debt and securitization"
Feb 28 11:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 28 11:37:02 <nOgAnOo>	Wow it seems you posted a link a few seconds after mine quoting my link!
Feb 28 11:37:07 <nOgAnOo>	It seems I was relevant after all?
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Feb 28 11:37:10 <nOgAnOo>	:)
Feb 28 11:37:23 <ThickAsThieves>	so they are watching
Feb 28 11:37:24 <nOgAnOo>	“coinlab-bringing-bitcoin-to-wall-street-with-mtgox-deal”
Feb 28 11:37:28 <ThickAsThieves>	heh
Feb 28 11:37:37 <pigeons>	mtgox still doesnt explain what it even means
Feb 28 11:37:40 <jcpham>	2 thumbs down
Feb 28 11:38:01 <jcpham>	vague press is vague
Feb 28 11:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons yes but then again they never don't and usually don't even know what anything means.
Feb 28 11:38:15 <nOgAnOo>	Easier for corporations to buy mass amounts of bitcoins
Feb 28 11:38:15 <pigeons>	ooo, now you get another middleman!
Feb 28 11:38:20 <nOgAnOo>	Cheaper transactions
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Feb 28 11:38:28 <ThickAsThieves>	because if they did, everyone would know that gox basically raped CoinLab investors for a chance to make bitcoin available to dummies
Feb 28 11:38:32 <pigeons>	and in a horrible country for financial transactions!
Feb 28 11:38:55 <pigeons>	nOgAnOo: that makes no sense
Feb 28 11:39:05 <jcpham>	if coinlab doesn't pull a rabbit out of their hat, i predict they are over
Feb 28 11:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	well, i appreciate at tleast the part where they read up on what they fucked up and try to fix it
Feb 28 11:39:11 <jcpham>	that is a solid prediction
Feb 28 11:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	course, fixing it in their usual dodderingway, but at least the attempt is there.
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Feb 28 11:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	which all boils down to jcpham being basically right :
Feb 28 11:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	all they need now is the rabbit out of a hat and they'll survive.
Feb 28 11:40:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i think theyll do it
Feb 28 11:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, asicminer thread over 100 pages.
Feb 28 11:40:20 <ThickAsThieves>	it only takes a few million in attention
Feb 28 11:40:23 <mircea_popescu>	that's 2000 posts+
Feb 28 11:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if it ever will be the case that total blocks mined by asicminer > total posts made in asicminer thread.
Feb 28 11:41:12 <ThickAsThieves>	1000 posts confirming satoshis hehe
Feb 28 11:42:09 <pigeons>	mtgox has quite low margins anyway and coinlab has a reputation at not understanding how to make money
Feb 28 11:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons the sad news in all of this is mtgox basically saying "the us market is not worth serving"
Feb 28 11:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	if anything;'s a ghetto i dunno what else it would be.
Feb 28 11:44:19 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno dont you think gox is probably shedding 80% of the work for .2% of the profit?
Feb 28 11:44:27 <pigeons>	well its been true. exchb was a good example.
Feb 28 11:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	(meanwhile @the red house, bob woodward is "being punished")
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Feb 28 11:46:01 <pigeons>	some telling info on the faqs at http://coinlab.com/transition
Feb 28 11:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35775.msg1565186#msg1565186
Feb 28 11:46:09 <Bugpowder>	severely not severally
Feb 28 11:46:14 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty heavy, first actual usecase for ripple
Feb 28 11:46:17 <pigeons>	"Mt. Gox really wants to be 100% out of the US/Canada market."
Feb 28 11:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	transferring peter lambert assets.
Feb 28 11:46:37 <nOgAnOo>	https://twitter.com/coinlab
Feb 28 11:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you mean in the article  ?
Feb 28 11:46:46 <jcpham>	coinlab is pissing me off for changing their business model and delaying things
Feb 28 11:46:50 <Bugpowder>	the title
Feb 28 11:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/28/you-will-regret-the-full-threat-email-a-top-white-house-official-sent-bob-woodward/
Feb 28 11:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder joint and several, jointly and severally.
Feb 28 11:47:09 <Bugpowder>	multiple
Feb 28 11:47:11 <Bugpowder>	ok
Feb 28 11:47:13 <Bugpowder>	kewl
Feb 28 11:47:17 <jcpham>	i hope coinlab succeeds though
Feb 28 11:47:22 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 28 11:47:27 <Bugpowder>	coinlab better succeed
Feb 28 11:47:34 <Bugpowder>	or crash city
Feb 28 11:47:51 <Bugpowder>	if they do succeed though, gonna be nice pump
Feb 28 11:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder it will crash sometime in late summer/early autumn, probably taking some people's btc with them.
Feb 28 11:48:04 <pigeons>	they won't succeed and i dont see it affecting price either way
Feb 28 11:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	the effect on the exchange rate will be nil.
Feb 28 11:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	drat pigeons beat me to it.
Feb 28 11:48:31 <Bugpowder>	I really dislike the 'folksy' style of their communication.
Feb 28 11:48:50 <mod6>	trying to watch these idiots on CNBC/CNN/Faux others + washington try to keep the shit inside the horse is quite comica.
Feb 28 11:48:52 <Bugpowder>	Bro, be chill we are like totally secure dude
Feb 28 11:48:57 <mod6>	*comical.
Feb 28 11:49:08 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147603.msg1567583#msg1567583 sgornick has a total blank moment.
Feb 28 11:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 i get reports :)
Feb 28 11:49:35 <pigeons>	coinlab used to say they had "lots" of hpc clients lined up for gpu mininers work, anytime i tried to get details the answer was "lots of people pay for password cracking" and that work obviously never showed up so i question their honesty as well
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Feb 28 11:50:11 <splnkr>	i'd say the real question isn't whether coinlab can deliver but whether wall street will bite
Feb 28 11:50:51 <jcpham>	http://coinlab.com/liquidity
Feb 28 11:50:57 <jcpham>	wtf is this website
Feb 28 11:51:05 <pigeons>	yeah they are offering tools no one wants or needs
Feb 28 11:51:11 <ThickAsThieves>	they removed the Buy $1m bitcoins buttons
Feb 28 11:51:12 <jcpham>	coinlab.com used to point to some funky WURM online game
Feb 28 11:51:22 <jcpham>	Give us a call at 855-Lab-Coin or drop us a line to ask us about:
Feb 28 11:51:22 <jcpham>	Foreign Exchange Liquidity Provision
Feb 28 11:51:23 <jcpham>	Large Transactions
Feb 28 11:51:23 <jcpham>	Custom Orders / Standing Orders
Feb 28 11:51:23 <jcpham>	Full-Service Support for Family and Institutional Wealth
Feb 28 11:51:30 <jcpham>	goddamnit you motherfuckers coinlab
Feb 28 11:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons there's more good reason to question their honesty
Feb 28 11:53:01 <mircea_popescu>	loads of little things cropping up, like the habit of cancelling trades when price goes up then paying off those who throw a stink on forum
Feb 28 11:53:09 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: that's coinbase
Feb 28 11:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	there's a difference ?
Feb 28 11:53:26 <Bicknellski>	Mt. Gox really wants to be 100% out of the US/Canada market.
Feb 28 11:53:33 <pigeons>	yes coinbase is the ycombinator/pgraham one
Feb 28 11:53:53 <pigeons>	coinbase is a gox front end with extra fees and extra problems
Feb 28 11:53:57 <ThickAsThieves>	this is a sad twitter account
Feb 28 11:54:05 <ThickAsThieves>	210 followers
Feb 28 11:54:36 <pigeons>	coinlab is a former mining pool that overpaid so they could keep users for when they got non bitcoin hashing work that never showed up
Feb 28 11:54:37 <ThickAsThieves>	theyu follow SatoshiDice
Feb 28 11:54:57 <leotreasure>	asicmining divs are out
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Feb 28 11:56:09 <pigeons>	coinbase was giving out .1 btc for account refferals when they started and was gonna implement a big pyramid scheme but the rising price killed that
Feb 28 11:56:10 <Diablo-D3>	did asicminer just push out the real dividend?
Feb 28 11:56:17 <leotreasure>	yep :D
Feb 28 11:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you said coinbase twice.
Feb 28 11:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	i am confused.
Feb 28 11:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	isn't coinlab run by the same people who run coinbase ?
Feb 28 11:57:13 <pigeons>	no
Feb 28 11:57:47 <pigeons>	today i have been using coinbase to refer to coinbase and coinlab to refer oinlab
Feb 28 11:58:06 <pigeons>	yesterday i was not so accurate
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Feb 28 11:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 so have they scrapped their exchange or wtf are they doing ?
Feb 28 11:58:45 <mircea_popescu>	who's coinlab then ?
Feb 28 11:58:53 <pigeons>	http://coinlab.com/about
Feb 28 11:58:58 <pigeons>	https://coinbase.com/about
Feb 28 11:59:23 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: theres plans in the works Im not allowed to talk about
Feb 28 12:00:01 <pigeons>	http://pool.coinlab.com/partners/goats
Feb 28 12:00:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4537 @ 0.00075999 = 3.4481 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 12:01:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00075999 = 0.38 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 12:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons youy're kidding, right ?
Feb 28 12:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/12/y-combinator-alum-memsql-raises-2-1-million-from-ashton-kutcher-sv-angel-and-more/
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Feb 28 12:02:16 <pigeons>	i'm kidding about what?
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Feb 28 12:02:25 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I hate TC, honestly
Feb 28 12:02:29 <Diablo-D3>	they report news like shit
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Feb 28 12:02:47 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons vessenes is ycombinator.
Feb 28 12:02:53 <mircea_popescu>	the two ventures are in no way distinct.
Feb 28 12:03:06 <Diablo-D3>	y combinator is a group of VCs, btw
Feb 28 12:03:19 <Diablo-D3>	theres a few y combinator VCs that represent VC companies
Feb 28 12:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Feb 28 12:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	ycombinator is a team of dorks.
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Feb 28 12:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	the vcs that get sucked in are usually innocent
Feb 28 12:03:50 <splnkr>	well, dorks backed by vc
Feb 28 12:03:54 <splnkr>	everyone's right
Feb 28 12:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, everytime they can be fooled into it.
Feb 28 12:04:08 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: ycombinator isnt a team of dorks
Feb 28 12:04:18 <Diablo-D3>	I think they invest rather too readily, though
Feb 28 12:04:25 <jcpham>	me too
Feb 28 12:04:32 <Diablo-D3>	actually, maybe thats not it
Feb 28 12:04:37 <Diablo-D3>	they invest too much too readily
Feb 28 12:04:37 <jcpham>	vc techno-fanbois
Feb 28 12:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham nothing wrong with throwingmoney around in principle
Feb 28 12:04:49 <Diablo-D3>	its okay to invest small amounts in iffy ventures if you're hedging bets
Feb 28 12:04:55 <splnkr>	perhaps narrowly is the word
Feb 28 12:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	if you're sitting on a few bn, it makes sense to peel the odd million to aggitated kids.
Feb 28 12:05:02 <Diablo-D3>	they want to invest in the next google
Feb 28 12:05:05 <Diablo-D3>	instead, they get the next yahoo
Feb 28 12:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	you never know when you need a cock sucked.
Feb 28 12:05:38 <splnkr>	well, honestly, the vc game is like that by nature. you can't predict the future. you have to place a bunch of bets and hope one hits it big
Feb 28 12:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Feb 28 12:05:53 <splnkr>	like the hollywood box office model
Feb 28 12:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	which is why i say, teh vcs are mostly innocent
Feb 28 12:05:59 <Diablo-D3>	splnkr: actually, I _can_ predict the future
Feb 28 12:06:03 <pigeons>	thanks i thought they were distinct. the combination lowers my esteem for both of them
Feb 28 12:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	but the sort of shit ycombinator pushes is horrible.
Feb 28 12:06:18 <splnkr>	Diablo-D3: don't be wasting your time here then!
Feb 28 12:06:20 <blu3gr1f1on>	like coinbase?
Feb 28 12:06:27 <Diablo-D3>	splnkr: that isnt it
Feb 28 12:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	blu3gr1f1on like airbnb
Feb 28 12:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	which is what soured me on them entirely.
Feb 28 12:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	coupla years ago i was living with a generally good opinion of them and graham
Feb 28 12:06:53 <splnkr>	what do you mean then
Feb 28 12:06:55 <Diablo-D3>	if I understand the business plan, if I meet the founders and drill the shit out of them and they pass, and if the market they're going into is a logical choice
Feb 28 12:06:58 <Diablo-D3>	then its a sure winner
Feb 28 12:07:02 <Diablo-D3>	the problem is
Feb 28 12:07:07 <Diablo-D3>	_thats incredibly rare_
Feb 28 12:08:15 <splnkr>	but if your business model is venture capital investment, don't you have to play your cards even in the absence of those rare cases?
Feb 28 12:08:42 <Diablo-D3>	splnkr: nope.
Feb 28 12:08:42 <splnkr>	then it's throwing darts with the best available along those parameters
Feb 28 12:08:46 <Diablo-D3>	thats where they get their game wrong
Feb 28 12:08:51 <Diablo-D3>	like, okay, lets take apple
Feb 28 12:08:52 <mircea_popescu>	splnkr that's a fine way to bleed equity.
Feb 28 12:08:57 <Diablo-D3>	its not the example I want but it works
Feb 28 12:09:01 <Diablo-D3>	apple does three things
Feb 28 12:09:08 <Diablo-D3>	they build products, they sell a service, and they also invest
Feb 28 12:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	in general banking goes bust when the sort of managers that think "we have to play" rise to the top.
Feb 28 12:09:12 <splnkr>	well this is what i see happening mircea_popescu
Feb 28 12:09:14 <Diablo-D3>	apple has a huge fucking investment department
Feb 28 12:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	that sort of managers are shit.
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Feb 28 12:09:26 <Diablo-D3>	they are now being sued because they are, according to shareholders, "hoarding cash"
Feb 28 12:09:33 <Diablo-D3>	I hope apple wins, btw
Feb 28 12:09:43 <Diablo-D3>	apple is waiting for that one perfect deal and they want to buy it
Feb 28 12:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 a company that large is always goingto have activist shareholders going at it.
Feb 28 12:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	usually multiple groups.
Feb 28 12:10:00 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but this is big enough to make the financial news
Feb 28 12:10:06 <splnkr>	yeah i say good for apple for having so much cash
Feb 28 12:10:09 <Diablo-D3>	a lot of major corporate investors are running this one
Feb 28 12:10:11 <pigeons>	zipbit is the patrickharnett/jonathan ryan owens scam right?
Feb 28 12:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't often get reported (this wouldn't have except the "cash hoarding" bs meets the community aggenda of the current whiote house)
Feb 28 12:10:17 *	nOgAnOo t0ke
Feb 28 12:10:19 <pigeons>	http://coinlab.com/strategy
Feb 28 12:10:20 <splnkr>	and not debt leveraging themselves into oblivion
Feb 28 12:10:28 <Diablo-D3>	apple, as a business, is ran well
Feb 28 12:10:34 <Diablo-D3>	I dont agree with them on a lot of _technical_ issues
Feb 28 12:10:47 <Diablo-D3>	but steve jobs left behind a very competent executive staff
Feb 28 12:11:19 <pigeons>	wait zipbit is the patrick harnett/jonathan ryan owens/kimdotcom scam
Feb 28 12:11:33 <pigeons>	they are one of coinlab's 3 customers
Feb 28 12:12:02 <Diablo-D3>	so I dunno
Feb 28 12:12:22 <Diablo-D3>	I agree with mircea_popescu's wording of that though
Feb 28 12:12:25 <Diablo-D3>	its stupid to bleed capital
Feb 28 12:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons they mean bitcoini caca consultancy don't they
Feb 28 12:12:44 <pigeons>	wow looking at all these partners and startups, i guess all i need is twitter bootstrap and im a startup
Feb 28 12:12:55 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: basically
Feb 28 12:12:58 <Diablo-D3>	and that pisses me off
Feb 28 12:13:06 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, I like people starting up companies
Feb 28 12:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons yes, the zipbit scam is their userbase.
Feb 28 12:13:18 <Diablo-D3>	that pushes the economy uphill pretty hard
Feb 28 12:13:22 <Diablo-D3>	its a good thing
Feb 28 12:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the girl is starting a bitchslap programme on bitcointalk,
Feb 28 12:13:27 <Diablo-D3>	but I dont like the fucktards running around
Feb 28 12:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	this should prop the price up to 40 at least.
Feb 28 12:13:35 <Diablo-D3>	if you're going to do it, THEN OD IT
Feb 28 12:13:53 <Diablo-D3>	I am a firm believer in the GSD methodology.
Feb 28 12:14:14 <splnkr>	oooooh, bootstrap baby, you'll beget a billion beautiful sites that do nothing, oooooh
Feb 28 12:14:21 <Diablo-D3>	splnkr: and bootstrap sucks
Feb 28 12:14:22 <Diablo-D3>	Ive used it
Feb 28 12:14:33 <Diablo-D3>	its one of the worst css-in-a-box kits ever
Feb 28 12:14:39 <Diablo-D3>	foundation is pretty shitty too
Feb 28 12:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	splnkr at least it's no ruby on rails.
Feb 28 12:14:59 <splnkr>	what's any better though?
Feb 28 12:15:00 <splnkr>	lol
Feb 28 12:15:06 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: actually, it can be
Feb 28 12:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	then you know you're fucked
Feb 28 12:15:28 <Diablo-D3>	you often use foundation and bootstrap in the front with RoR or some pythonated hell in the back
Feb 28 12:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	course it can be, bitcoinica was, if you recall, a bootstrap site coded in ror and hosted on linode.
Feb 28 12:15:40 <Diablo-D3>	bootsrap only handles the css
Feb 28 12:15:43 <splnkr>	first time i heard about ruby on rails i thought it was a chick who was a coke fiend
Feb 28 12:15:47 <splnkr>	j/k
Feb 28 12:15:54 <Diablo-D3>	btw, why the fuck do people keep using jquery
Feb 28 12:15:55 <pigeons>	ok this is the best
Feb 28 12:15:59 <pigeons>	http://coinlab.com/storage
Feb 28 12:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	a chick that was a cocke fiend wouldn't have as many holes
Feb 28 12:16:06 <Diablo-D3>	I fucking hate jquery
Feb 28 12:16:06 <imsaguy>	you just found that?
Feb 28 12:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	and they wouldn't be as loose
Feb 28 12:16:10 <Diablo-D3>	it is a arge bloated pile of shit
Feb 28 12:16:13 <imsaguy>	pigeons, you're getting slow in your old age
Feb 28 12:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy he's been on a journey of discovery
Feb 28 12:16:18 <pigeons>	they have a quote calculator for storing your bitcoins for you
Feb 28 12:16:27 <imsaguy>	I'm loving the ticker quote in the <title>
Feb 28 12:16:32 <Diablo-D3>	I can store my bitcoins for me myself.
Feb 28 12:16:33 <imsaguy>	except its a 3 hours old quote
Feb 28 12:16:41 <Diablo-D3>	I dont need to pay someone to do it for me
Feb 28 12:16:49 <imsaguy>	Diablo-D3: don't tell grandma that.
Feb 28 12:16:57 <imsaguy>	then again, grandma isn't going to buy bitcoin
Feb 28 12:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136192804573.jpg
Feb 28 12:17:07 <Diablo-D3>	I fucking pgp encrypt it with a passphrase, and then upload it to multiple VPSes
Feb 28 12:17:12 <Diablo-D3>	tada, my own fucking cloud.
Feb 28 12:17:18 <imsaguy>	I just put my wallet.dat on linode
Feb 28 12:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	i tattoo it on starving children.
Feb 28 12:17:25 <imsaguy>	mirrored to lots of places
Feb 28 12:17:26 <splnkr>	and THATs why wall street won't bite.
Feb 28 12:17:27 <splnkr>	lol
Feb 28 12:17:31 <pigeons>	i like the "how technically minded are you " question to prequalify who is dumb enough to pay them to store bitcoins
Feb 28 12:17:37 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: dont care for blondes
Feb 28 12:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons lol.
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Feb 28 12:18:02 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 just, the position bitcoin venture capitalists imagine the gramma in missouri to be in.
Feb 28 12:18:28 <splnkr>	exactly.
Feb 28 12:18:34 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, I dont care about non-technical markets
Feb 28 12:18:36 <splnkr>	i don't think wall street is quite that dumb
Feb 28 12:18:37 <Diablo-D3>	they make no sense to me
Feb 28 12:18:57 <Diablo-D3>	and you know what one of warren buffet's rules are?
Feb 28 12:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	splnkr wall street is neither that dumb nor that innocent.
Feb 28 12:19:11 <Diablo-D3>	if you dont understand the business model, dont invest in it
Feb 28 12:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	these muppets are bringing bitcoin to ws about a year too late.
Feb 28 12:19:15 <Diablo-D3>	and I dont understand the business model.
Feb 28 12:19:27 <Diablo-D3>	I have been stuck in the land of technology far too long to think stupid enough anymore
Feb 28 12:19:55 <splnkr>	i tell my friends that too just from a personal investment standpoint! invest in what you know
Feb 28 12:19:58 <splnkr>	it just makes more sense
Feb 28 12:20:05 <ThickAsThieves>	Coinlab charts: Current Price 163m ago $33.70
Feb 28 12:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol win.
Feb 28 12:20:39 <pigeons>	current enough for wall street
Feb 28 12:20:42 <imsaguy>	;;ticker
Feb 28 12:20:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.61711, Best ask: 33.63998, Bid-ask spread: 0.02287, Last trade: 33.61711, 24 hour volume: 94251.07565531, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 33.89000, 24 hour vwap: 32.44369
Feb 28 12:20:51 <pigeons>	;;coinlag
Feb 28 12:20:52 <gribble>	Error: "coinlag" is not a valid command.
Feb 28 12:21:09 <imsaguy>	Good thing people got those loyalty points
Feb 28 12:21:15 <imsaguy>	worth fractions of a dollar
Feb 28 12:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	hey, one day when a dollar is worth 1mn bitcoins you'll be happy you saved those.
Feb 28 12:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	o no wait.
Feb 28 12:24:35 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't work that way.
Feb 28 12:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7687 @ 0.00074911 = 5.7584 BTC [-]
Feb 28 12:25:25 <Bicknellski>	fuck that took a good 40 minutes to catch up the thread here
Feb 28 12:25:26 <Bicknellski>	lol
Feb 28 12:25:36 <Bicknellski>	Must be a slow reader.
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Feb 28 12:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you're one of the select elite that actually understands what they read.
Feb 28 12:26:18 <Bicknellski>	pff
Feb 28 12:26:33 <Bicknellski>	no but I am honest enough to admit I dont
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Feb 28 12:26:43 <Bicknellski>	or smart enough to read more to find out
Feb 28 12:27:13 <Bicknellski>	There are some pretty slimey people in Bitcoin... I like that
Feb 28 12:27:47 <kakobrekla>	you like slimey people??
Feb 28 12:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	lampreys.
Feb 28 12:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	make delicious rice
Feb 28 12:28:09 <Bicknellski>	ya
Feb 28 12:28:29 <Bicknellski>	eels lampreys jawless fish
Feb 28 12:28:35 <pigeons>	http://coinlab.com/investors
Feb 28 12:28:46 <pigeons>	good ole Tihan Seale
Feb 28 12:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons all the good people huh.
Feb 28 12:30:02 <pigeons>	yeah man
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Feb 28 12:30:41 <mircea_popescu>	(im pretty certain bitcoinca consultancy ppl are involved)
Feb 28 12:30:56 <mircea_popescu>	(no actual proof, but enough for an otr)
Feb 28 12:31:09 <kakobrekla>	i dont know these ppl
Feb 28 12:31:14 <kakobrekla>	who is tihan
Feb 28 12:31:16 <pigeons>	thye have the perfect credentials for this job
Feb 28 12:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla tihan seale is the guy who stole from bitcoinica
Feb 28 12:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	the azn millionaire card fraudster / antique collector
Feb 28 12:31:37 <kakobrekla>	the sourcE?
Feb 28 12:31:42 <pigeons>	tihan bought bitcoinica from zhou and brought in phantomcircuit and the rest is history
Feb 28 12:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	he's the guy zhou supposedly convinced to give the moneyz back
Feb 28 12:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	"because international"
Feb 28 12:32:29 <kakobrekla>	oh
Feb 28 12:32:38 <kakobrekla>	smells dirty.
Feb 28 12:32:55 <pigeons>	coinlab will have all us/canada mtgox users moved over by march 22. is that bfl time?
Feb 28 12:33:22 <imsaguy>	they're beta testing on march 15
Feb 28 12:33:25 <imsaguy>	and alpha is even sooner
Feb 28 12:33:28 <imsaguy>	vroom
Feb 28 12:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol bfl time
Feb 28 12:35:01 <pigeons>	i predict smooth as danieldaniels face
Feb 28 12:35:15 <ThickAsThieves>	kako, pm'd
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Feb 28 12:36:42 <ThickAsThieves>	thx
Feb 28 12:36:47 <kakobrekla>	np
Feb 28 12:37:12 <kakobrekla>	now you can talk dirty.
Feb 28 12:37:16 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Feb 28 12:38:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Feb 28 12:38:58 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4398067.36359 based on data since last change | 4676975.06762 based on data for last three days
Feb 28 12:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;tricker
Feb 28 12:39:45 <gribble>	Error: "tricker" is not a valid command.
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Feb 28 12:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6895 = 2.0685 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 12:53:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 28 12:53:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.63000, Best ask: 33.63646, Bid-ask spread: 0.00646, Last trade: 33.63646, 24 hour volume: 97723.77922444, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 33.89000, 24 hour vwap: 32.48150
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Feb 28 12:57:36 <error4733>	;;ticker
Feb 28 12:57:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.63000, Best ask: 33.64000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 33.64000, 24 hour volume: 97810.83398230, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 33.89000, 24 hour vwap: 32.48455
Feb 28 13:00:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 13:09:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 28 @ 0.3 = 8.4 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 13:14:18 <jurov>	kakobrekla, don't you happen to know anything about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147599.0;topicseen ?
Feb 28 13:14:26 <jurov>	or it's just smear?
Feb 28 13:15:27 <kakobrekla>	i think its bogus
Feb 28 13:15:39 <kakobrekla>	but hey
Feb 28 13:15:52 <kakobrekla>	we have seen banks deny txes to btc exchanges before
Feb 28 13:16:01 <kakobrekla>	even with gox iirc
Feb 28 13:16:18 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Feb 28 13:16:20 <Bugpowder>	all the time
Feb 28 13:16:33 <Bugpowder>	I couldn't wire from BofA to gox for a while
Feb 28 13:16:52 <Bugpowder>	'recieving account suspended'
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Feb 28 13:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	it is a little concerning that mtgox keep bleeding market share.
Feb 28 13:19:25 <kakobrekla>	hm
Feb 28 13:19:35 <kakobrekla>	they still have that fee bug at bitstamp
Feb 28 13:20:01 <kakobrekla>	i guess its becoming even less obvious with btc price going up
Feb 28 13:20:05 <kakobrekla>	cocksuckers.
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Feb 28 13:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	by the way as a psa : i hope everyone is aware of http://www.nilsschneider.net/2013/01/28/recovering-bitcoin-private-keys.html
Feb 28 13:30:32 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Feb 28 13:30:32 <gribble>	1 BTC = 33.58999 U.S. dollars = 25.5826276 Euros
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Feb 28 13:40:54 <ThickAsThieves>	0.00013045 per share for sdice divs it looks like
Feb 28 13:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	maybe someone wins the <1 again on .01 btc this time
Feb 28 13:41:40 <mircea_popescu>	there's still what, 12 hours
Feb 28 13:42:08 <ThickAsThieves>	not sure what time they use
Feb 28 13:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	well unless they're in macau it's not yet march
Feb 28 13:42:40 <ThickAsThieves>	dooglus implies that estimate as "rough and ready"
Feb 28 13:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	i think he's right.
Feb 28 13:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	also no, http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57331947/df4d038d7734abe9385ae2d8973d8a6d42e3214489d54e6d53e30e3e0ff31076 is not me being stolen from. even if it was relied via moscow.
Feb 28 13:45:33 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 28 13:45:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.85000, Best ask: 33.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 33.90000, 24 hour volume: 98135.00942093, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 33.90000, 24 hour vwap: 32.52226
Feb 28 13:45:58 <Bugpowder>	I was wondering when you were going to put that wad into cold storage.
Feb 28 13:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Feb 28 13:46:22 <mircea_popescu>	it was in cold storage to begin with.
Feb 28 13:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	just changed freezers
Feb 28 13:46:46 <B0g4r7_>	Got my asicminer div.  0.0023544 BTC per share.
Feb 28 13:46:53 <Bugpowder>	ah.  half a milli.
Feb 28 13:47:21 <mircea_popescu>	so like 2%. is this for the current month as feb or as march ?
Feb 28 13:47:32 <Bugpowder>	20%
Feb 28 13:47:40 <Bugpowder>	oh o
Feb 28 13:47:42 <Bugpowder>	no
Feb 28 13:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder no, they ipod .1
Feb 28 13:47:44 <Bugpowder>	2 %
Feb 28 13:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	and are trading like .5 atm
Feb 28 13:47:56 <Bugpowder>	insanity
Feb 28 13:48:08 <Bugpowder>	although, they are the only game in town
Feb 28 13:48:55 <B0g4r7_>	Looks like 23% to me, of the IPO price.
Feb 28 13:49:08 <B0g4r7_>	Sadly I paid somewhat above IPO, but I still expect good things.
Feb 28 13:49:36 <B0g4r7_>	I think it's for Feb's earnings.  Or rather, all up to this point.
Feb 28 13:49:52 <Bugpowder>	minus the expenses
Feb 28 13:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 let's try gribble.
Feb 28 13:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  0.0023544 / 0.1 * 100
Feb 28 13:50:03 <gribble>	2.3544
Feb 28 13:50:06 <B0g4r7_>	Ok.  I typo'd it.
Feb 28 13:50:10 <B0g4r7_>	Take off a leading zero.
Feb 28 13:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	you mean a trailing zero :D
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Feb 28 13:54:04 <ThickAsThieves>	what % of divs get paid per share after the initial payoff?
Feb 28 13:54:35 <B0g4r7_>	I think divs get cut in half after the IPO price is raid in divs.
Feb 28 13:54:46 <B0g4r7_>	Maybe less if some debts need to be paid.
Feb 28 13:54:53 <B0g4r7_>	s/raid/repaid/
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Feb 28 13:57:39 <Bugpowder>	$34.00
Feb 28 13:58:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 28 13:58:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.91100, Best ask: 34.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08900, Last trade: 34.00000, 24 hour volume: 99306.03255539, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.00000, 24 hour vwap: 32.54358
Feb 28 13:58:48 <ThickAsThieves>	yay
Feb 28 13:59:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 750 @ 0.27963952 = 209.7296 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 14:01:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 900 @ 0.24959007 = 224.6311 BTC [+]
Feb 28 14:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	aaand the oix takes a full dollar jump
Feb 28 14:03:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 28000 @ 0.00636 = 178.08 BTC [+]
Feb 28 14:09:10 <jcpham>	http://www.aeonmagazine.com/being-human/tom-chatfield-technology-intimacy/
Feb 28 14:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19dqcd/mpoe_introduced_bitcoin_price_sentiment_indicator/ methings you're banned
Feb 28 14:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	"Whatever happens, the very meat of our physical being is to be left behind."
Feb 28 14:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	this has been the socialist utopia for about 500 years now.
Feb 28 14:10:35 <jurov>	i did not notice anything untoward on reddit...looks just like it never got much above threshold
Feb 28 14:11:00 <jurov>	11 up votes 9 down votes
Feb 28 14:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	but that one has 1 vote i thought that's how they do banning there
Feb 28 14:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	o i am on a stale page ?
Feb 28 14:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	this post was submitted on 28 Feb 2013
Feb 28 14:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	1 point (100% like it)
Feb 28 14:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	1 up vote 0 down votes
Feb 28 14:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	it says
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Feb 28 14:12:40 <jurov>	you're in parallel universe maybe
Feb 28 14:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	maybe so!
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Feb 28 14:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	maybe some broken caching
Feb 28 14:16:52 <jurov>	so, most trivial transaction possible to send 0.5BTC requires 0.0005 fee? i'm totally patching this
Feb 28 14:16:59 <jurov>	https://blockchain.info/tx/8903532f06070433f8d95125dcd1909298b004ffb95d35ef3e371d19c95c6110
Feb 28 14:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	hum
Feb 28 14:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	odd, it's under the tx limit no ?
Feb 28 14:18:48 <jurov>	dunno what limit it's under
Feb 28 14:19:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i notice the windows client will sometimes say you need a larger fee than makes sense
Feb 28 14:19:38 <pigeons>	oh you can calculate the size in kb of your inputs and the age in your head?
Feb 28 14:19:39 <ThickAsThieves>	then i'd cancel and try again
Feb 28 14:19:42 <ThickAsThieves>	and it'd work
Feb 28 14:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons yes
Feb 28 14:20:27 <jurov>	but that input is smallest possible
Feb 28 14:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	for the record i don't recall when i last paid a tx fee.
Feb 28 14:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	possibly last summer.
Feb 28 14:21:11 <pigeons>	WELL YOUR NOT TRYING TO SCREW WITH PEOPLE ENOUGH THEN
Feb 28 14:21:23 <pigeons>	oops sorry capslock
Feb 28 14:21:44 <pigeons>	why do they even have that key
Feb 28 14:22:08 <mircea_popescu>	what key ?!
Feb 28 14:22:41 <pigeons>	caps lock
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Feb 28 14:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	for when you type mpex commands.
Feb 28 14:23:27 <jurov>	exchange it wot ctrl... or pry it off altogether
Feb 28 14:23:57 <ThickAsThieves>	it's a Search button on Chromebooks
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Feb 28 14:26:05 <mircea_popescu>	so let the debate rage : when i add mining indexes to mpex, should they be called MIX or DIX ?
Feb 28 14:27:30 <ThickAsThieves>	BFL
Feb 28 14:27:48 <Lyspooner>	indices?
Feb 28 14:28:55 <mircea_popescu>	ungulates!
Feb 28 14:29:00 <Bugpowder>	what does DIX stand for?
Feb 28 14:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	diff
Feb 28 14:29:52 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Feb 28 14:29:55 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223637 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 138 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 19 hours, 2 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4419440.20387 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.047
Feb 28 14:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	also! shameless plug : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/permanently-elevated-plateau/
Feb 28 14:30:23 <pigeons>	spam detected.
Feb 28 14:30:32 <Bugpowder>	34.25 detected
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Feb 28 14:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134259334770.jpg
Feb 28 14:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	detect a little overthere why dontcha :D
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Feb 28 14:39:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 50 @ 0.0022 = 0.11 BTC [+]
Feb 28 14:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	jurov re fees : (Fee: $ 0.00 - Size: 1878 bytes) 2013-02-28 18:17:40. (Fee: $ 0.00 - Size: 2808 bytes) 2013-02-28 18:13:12.
Feb 28 14:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	etc
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Feb 28 14:51:05 <jurov>	mircea, your wallet is well oiled so it hasn't problem to choose optimal unspent outputs
Feb 28 14:51:38 <jurov>	i drain the coinbr one frequently, exposing such behavoir
Feb 28 14:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Feb 28 14:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	i think "cold storage optimisation specialist" will become one of the better earning specialisations in the future.
Feb 28 14:54:21 <nOgAnOo>	Mircea I love you
Feb 28 14:55:28 <jurov>	nOgAnOo, are you a girl?
Feb 28 14:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	cause if you;re not jurov would like to propose you love him instead.
Feb 28 14:58:27 <kakobrekla>	good point ill add that to my linked in ;)
Feb 28 14:58:39 <kakobrekla>	people will be like wtf frozen meat?
Feb 28 14:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 28 14:59:14 <jurov>	hehe
Feb 28 14:59:58 <mod6>	haha
Feb 28 15:00:00 <mod6>	nice
Feb 28 15:00:21 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWu9TFJjHaM
Feb 28 15:00:22 <Diablo-D3>	jesus christ
Feb 28 15:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, shake your booty as a command.
Feb 28 15:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	literally magic.
Feb 28 15:01:35 <Diablo-D3>	yes, this qualifies as magic
Feb 28 15:02:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Feb 28 15:02:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.17109, Best ask: 34.40710, Bid-ask spread: 0.23601, Last trade: 34.40736, 24 hour volume: 102949.56666322, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.67158
Feb 28 15:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	is this mature ?
Feb 28 15:02:21 <mircea_popescu>	i'd totally get a set for the girls.
Feb 28 15:03:30 <Diablo-D3>	its brand new
Feb 28 15:03:37 <Diablo-D3>	but the military HAS been experiementing with that shit for years
Feb 28 15:03:43 <Diablo-D3>	like, you know apple's siri?
Feb 28 15:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Feb 28 15:03:52 <Diablo-D3>	its the end result of a 20 year military project
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Feb 28 15:09:43 <jurov>	my god. so the discussion on #bitcoin-dev turned to proposals to round the outputs or add bitdust to them... just to spite mpex, perhaps
Feb 28 15:10:01 <Bugpowder>	uhhh
Feb 28 15:10:02 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Feb 28 15:10:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.93294, Best ask: 33.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06706, Last trade: 33.00000, 24 hour volume: 120954.92202604, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.58998
Feb 28 15:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov obviously no actual devs present.
Feb 28 15:10:50 <Bugpowder>	$30.90 daym..  15kBTC sale
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Feb 28 15:11:34 <Bugpowder>	gap http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Feb 28 15:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.google.com/search?q=Ycombinator&complete=0&tbs=qdr:d
Feb 28 15:12:51 <mircea_popescu>	that's nice. twitter and trilema in that order.
Feb 28 15:13:19 <ThickAsThieves>	thats funny
Feb 28 15:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder 15% gap
Feb 28 15:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	we are living interesting times
Feb 28 15:13:42 <Bugpowder>	biggest gap I ever saw on gox
Feb 28 15:13:59 <ThickAsThieves>	probly from delayed tickers on Coinlab and goxlive and such
Feb 28 15:14:14 <ThickAsThieves>	sell for $31, you got it!
Feb 28 15:14:32 <Bugpowder>	looked like a 15k market sell
Feb 28 15:14:51 <Bugpowder>	maybe someone hit the sell $500k button on coinlab
Feb 28 15:14:54 <Bugpowder>	by accident
Feb 28 15:14:57 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Feb 28 15:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 28 15:15:05 <nOgAnOo>	Right
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Feb 28 15:15:07 <mod6>	haha, "what's this do..."
Feb 28 15:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	no , that can only happen on places where people actually have a lot of wealth
Feb 28 15:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	like, you know, mpex.
Feb 28 15:15:14 <nOgAnOo>	The 7000 bitcoin is right next to the 1 bitcoin
Feb 28 15:15:17 <nOgAnOo>	I noticed that.
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Feb 28 15:15:59 <Bugpowder>	weird that its not filling at all really
Feb 28 15:16:04 <Bugpowder>	wonder if ordering if fucked up
Feb 28 15:16:11 <ThickAsThieves>	there's only like 100 coins for sale under 33
Feb 28 15:16:16 <Bugpowder>	or the bots just are in wait in see mode
Feb 28 15:16:16 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Feb 28 15:16:17 <gribble>	75.78574 seconds
Feb 28 15:16:20 <Bugpowder>	oh
Feb 28 15:16:23 <Bugpowder>	my
Feb 28 15:16:24 <Bugpowder>	god
Feb 28 15:16:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 28 15:16:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.00000, Best ask: 32.01371, Bid-ask spread: 0.01371, Last trade: 32.00000, 24 hour volume: 121637.16767579, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.58503
Feb 28 15:16:37 <Ukto>	you called? :P
Feb 28 15:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	derping.
Feb 28 15:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	i mean dropping
Feb 28 15:17:06 <Bugpowder>	clark moody has it at 32.92
Feb 28 15:17:07 <ThickAsThieves>	Ukto, shoudlnt you be working on The Next Big Thing tm?
Feb 28 15:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i see it down to 31
Feb 28 15:17:26 <Ukto>	lunch break
Feb 28 15:17:30 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Feb 28 15:17:31 <mod6>	32.06 was last on clark moody
Feb 28 15:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=2&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&
Feb 28 15:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	it gapped down at any rate.
Feb 28 15:18:01 <mod6>	yea
Feb 28 15:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	funny cause earlier ppl were buying calls.
Feb 28 15:18:26 <Ukto>	sounds like a big long distance bill
Feb 28 15:18:34 <mod6>	yeah some healthy sell volume.
Feb 28 15:18:38 <mod6>	it'll go back up
Feb 28 15:19:12 <Ukto>	just give the bots an hour or two to resituate
Feb 28 15:19:40 <gigavps>	hey mircea_popescu, how come you didn't own any Gigamining when GLBSE close?
Feb 28 15:19:56 <gigavps>	*closed
Feb 28 15:20:03 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno. how come you're beating your wife ?
Feb 28 15:20:08 <Ukto>	I think I just saw a bomb get dropped
Feb 28 15:20:27 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu that would go against your giga.etf contract, would it not?
Feb 28 15:20:59 <mircea_popescu>	you beating your wife you mean ?
Feb 28 15:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	not rly. i don't include people's wives in contracts.
Feb 28 15:21:21 <gigavps>	why are you evading a direct question?
Feb 28 15:21:24 <Ukto>	err
Feb 28 15:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	because it's a loaded question, and a poorly loaded one at that.
Feb 28 15:21:35 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: did you not actually own giga shares to back it? x.x
Feb 28 15:21:42 <mircea_popescu>	course i did
Feb 28 15:21:50 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, but now the shares are worthless
Feb 28 15:21:53 <mircea_popescu>	he's running out of air with his various lies, so he's pulling a goat.
Feb 28 15:21:54 <Diablo-D3>	because giga is fucking investors around
Feb 28 15:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	which is cute, but hey.
Feb 28 15:22:22 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu, every person that own over 900 contracts has claimed and been paid
Feb 28 15:22:46 <gigavps>	so it would seem that your position is weakening
Feb 28 15:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps here's the thing : this sort of fake drama x months late won't save you from the fact that you've taken about 40k worth of investor's btc
Feb 28 15:22:52 <Ukto>	hmm, this is a pretty serious accusation
Feb 28 15:22:52 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73vGdCaC048
Feb 28 15:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	which is nowhere to be see.
Feb 28 15:23:00 <mod6>	we've been over all this like 69x
Feb 28 15:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	not getting into the details of pushing pirate, pushing amazingrando, pushing all the other scams.
Feb 28 15:23:17 <Ukto>	alright, there is obviously only one easy way to settle this
Feb 28 15:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	so, find something better to do with your time. like, say, a way to pay back.
Feb 28 15:23:24 <mircea_popescu>	lambert at least is trying.
Feb 28 15:23:26 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu the ice you are standing on is cracking
Feb 28 15:23:30 <Diablo-D3>	ahaha
Feb 28 15:23:31 <mircea_popescu>	right-o.
Feb 28 15:23:32 <Ukto>	lets send an open email to james/nefario asking him to confirm MP's claim
Feb 28 15:23:35 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: guess what came out
Feb 28 15:23:37 <Diablo-D3>	foundation 4
Feb 28 15:23:43 <Diablo-D3>	they fixed basically every single thing I bitched about
Feb 28 15:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they were listening
Feb 28 15:23:59 <Diablo-D3>	maybe
Feb 28 15:24:02 <Diablo-D3>	a lot of people were bitching
Feb 28 15:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto nefario, the scammertagged chav from bitcointalk you mean ?
Feb 28 15:24:23 <Diablo-D3>	they switched to zepto.js for their js (although to be fair, none of their js was REQUIRED to be used, it was purely optional)
Feb 28 15:24:28 <Ukto>	heh yes, the person who has been giving out accurate information
Feb 28 15:24:34 <Diablo-D3>	zepto > query by a shitload
Feb 28 15:24:34 <Ukto>	he has no reason to lie
Feb 28 15:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i can dig up the logs for some accurate info he gave, if you're interested.
Feb 28 15:25:02 <Ukto>	hey, I am just trying to help
Feb 28 15:25:15 <Ukto>	i have never owned shares of giga/etf
Feb 28 15:25:25 <Ukto>	just dont like seeing false accusations fly.
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Feb 28 15:25:34 <Ukto>	shouldnt be hard to get proof otherwise
Feb 28 15:25:53 <gigavps>	a word of waring to all, mircea_popescu doesn't live up to his own contracts
Feb 28 15:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	here's a start : nefario makes "conference". nobody goes, but hey.
Feb 28 15:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	Sep 16 01:13:36 <nefario>	mircea_popescu:  would you like me to mention you or mpex?
Feb 28 15:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	Sep 16 01:14:01 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Feb 28 15:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	end result ? nefario explains the idiots present how much of a scam mpex is.
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Feb 28 15:26:30 <mircea_popescu>	lalala. has no reason to lie indeed.
Feb 28 15:26:40 <mircea_popescu>	gigavps your cheek is incredible.
Feb 28 15:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	you are insolvent talking about ice under me !?
Feb 28 15:26:58 <Ukto>	eh.. honestly, nefario has made some shit decisions, we all agree with that
Feb 28 15:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	you've fucked over your investors, talking about my contracts ?
Feb 28 15:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	piss off scammer
Feb 28 15:27:06 <gigavps>	lol
Feb 28 15:27:13 <Ukto>	but even ppl he has had disagreements with like Diablo-D3 has gotten accurate info
Feb 28 15:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Feb 28 15:27:15 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Feb 28 15:27:15 <gigavps>	so you have to resort to calling me a scammer
Feb 28 15:27:27 <gigavps>	when you know the truth
Feb 28 15:27:46 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:88727e3706f37e445789b628889e38b864a9257925711655a385f20f
Feb 28 15:27:48 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Feb 28 15:28:07 <Ukto>	and honestly, i dont see what reason gigavps has to lie about it. other than just wanting to bully and pick on you to keep your shares?
Feb 28 15:28:12 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: yeah, I think Im the only one that got that level of treatment
Feb 28 15:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate gigavps -10 Defrauded direct investors of something like 40k BTC. Lied about pretty much everything, changed his contract. Also one of the main pirate ponzi supporters.
Feb 28 15:28:31 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user gigavps has been recorded.
Feb 28 15:28:32 <jborkl>	Giga, did you even have the hash power to back up your dividend payout?? I seem to remember not
Feb 28 15:28:39 <Ukto>	all the other giga share holoders I know who claimed got theirs
Feb 28 15:28:42 <gigavps>	jborkl yes
Feb 28 15:28:50 <jborkl>	ok
Feb 28 15:28:51 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu prove me wrong and claim
Feb 28 15:28:55 <gigavps>	o wait, you can't
Feb 28 15:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto at the very minimum trying to get this false theory accepted whereby people actually claimed.
Feb 28 15:29:33 <kakobrekla>	i dont see how giga doing smth potentially wrong could be related to mp doing smth potentially wrong
Feb 28 15:30:16 <Ukto>	heh, I just want to solve the issue before it become some crazy drama
Feb 28 15:30:25 <mod6>	BEFORE?
Feb 28 15:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	the issue is solved.
Feb 28 15:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	and in general, scammers may get away with it cause i don't care
Feb 28 15:30:44 <burnside>	is giga's nick registered?  how do you check that?
Feb 28 15:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	but if they start being uppity, they'll get bitchslapped.
Feb 28 15:30:58 <mircea_popescu>	simple thing to understand.
Feb 28 15:31:09 <Ukto>	i think the biggest issue regardless
Feb 28 15:31:15 <Ukto>	is GLBSE's failure
Feb 28 15:31:16 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Feb 28 15:31:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.03000, Best ask: 33.29995, Bid-ask spread: 0.26995, Last trade: 33.01234, 24 hour volume: 123154.64224059, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.59041
Feb 28 15:31:30 <gigavps>	my nick is both registered and protected
Feb 28 15:31:32 <Ukto>	because it comes down to your word vs GLBSE & Issuer's word
Feb 28 15:31:35 <gigavps>	i've just authed
Feb 28 15:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Feb 28 15:31:49 <burnside>	cool, just wanted to make sure it was the one true giga
Feb 28 15:32:07 <mod6>	que up the retaliation ratings
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Feb 28 15:32:15 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu you have a pretty clear path for proving me wrong
Feb 28 15:32:36 <gigavps>	easy one at that for a man of stature such as yourself
Feb 28 15:32:57 <gigavps>	;;ident gigavps
Feb 28 15:32:57 <gribble>	Nick 'gigavps', with hostmask 'gigavps!~me@rrcs-97-79-110-50.se.biz.rr.com', is not identified.
Feb 28 15:33:06 <Ukto>	heh
Feb 28 15:33:10 <Ukto>	not very reassuring :P
Feb 28 15:33:40 <gigavps>	;;ident gigavps
Feb 28 15:33:40 <gribble>	Nick 'gigavps', with hostmask 'gigavps!~me@rrcs-97-79-110-50.se.biz.rr.com', is identified as user gigavps, with GPG key id F83554D76ADE3A3F, key fingerprint C4D30ACE7ACB2C16BCE9FD55F83554D76ADE3A3F, and bitcoin address None
Feb 28 15:33:54 <gigavps>	how is that
Feb 28 15:34:01 <Ukto>	i suppose that works :P
Feb 28 15:34:19 <gigavps>	so, here is the deal
Feb 28 15:34:22 <jcpham>	;;rated gigavps
Feb 28 15:34:23 <gribble>	You rated user gigavps on Fri Aug 17 15:27:07 2012, giving him a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: Excellent trust.
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Feb 28 15:35:05 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu had a contract called giga.eft for some such that he resold on his mpex exchange
Feb 28 15:35:27 <gigavps>	this contract stated that he would *always* own the 900 gigamining shares resold
Feb 28 15:36:01 <gigavps>	since the closing of glbse, mircea_popescu has refused to claim for one reason or another
Feb 28 15:36:26 <mod6>	well why would he want to deal with that nitwit anyway?
Feb 28 15:36:29 <gigavps>	and in that time, every major contract holder (aka at or over 900 contracts) has claimed and been paid
Feb 28 15:36:29 <mod6>	what would be the point?
Feb 28 15:36:58 <mod6>	bah. this is old news giga
Feb 28 15:37:02 <gigavps>	so i am simply asking mircea_popescu if he is a man of his word
Feb 28 15:37:13 <thestringpuller>	gigaetf had no value
Feb 28 15:37:25 <thestringpuller>	it became illiquid too
Feb 28 15:37:26 <gigavps>	did you have someone lie on notarized documentation mircea_popescu?
Feb 28 15:38:00 <gigavps>	this effects me greatly, because giga.eft owners want to make claims against me
Feb 28 15:38:22 <jcpham>	this drama seems rota-ish
Feb 28 15:38:24 <gigavps>	when i am not the one who offered or agreed to the giga.etf contract
Feb 28 15:38:42 <Ukto>	how about this
Feb 28 15:38:58 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: can you provide the btc address/email address used for glbse
Feb 28 15:39:02 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4032718/apple-deleting-icloud-emails-containing-barely-legal-teen
Feb 28 15:39:05 <Ukto>	let nefario make the statement weather the shares existed or noit
Feb 28 15:39:12 <mod6>	jcpham: NO
Feb 28 15:39:12 <Ukto>	and then the etf holders can deal with nefario
Feb 28 15:39:16 <Ukto>	and not gigavps
Feb 28 15:39:20 <Ukto>	and all is settled
Feb 28 15:39:41 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: not nefario
Feb 28 15:39:41 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto no.
Feb 28 15:39:47 <Diablo-D3>	whoever issued the passthrough
Feb 28 15:39:49 <jcpham>	i pre de-nominamte myself
Feb 28 15:40:01 <Ukto>	0,o
Feb 28 15:40:06 <Diablo-D3>	the passthrough owner is on the hook for it, not giga or nefari
Feb 28 15:40:06 <Ukto>	well
Feb 28 15:40:08 <Ukto>	at this point
Feb 28 15:40:17 <Ukto>	its an issue between MP and glbse
Feb 28 15:40:39 <gigavps>	if mircea_popescu is unwilling to prove me wrong or is unable to offer another creditable reason, he has broken his word to "double dip"
Feb 28 15:40:51 <mod6>	bullshit
Feb 28 15:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	no. at this point it's an issue between some idiot who thinks he can deflect attention from his misdealings by starting shit with me and the world.
Feb 28 15:41:13 <gigavps>	you and the world?
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Feb 28 15:41:31 <gigavps>	i have no problems with anyone. i am simply trying to get to the bottom of what is going on
Feb 28 15:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	the time for this sort of putative implication was last year,
Feb 28 15:41:37 <mod6>	these scammers are like wack-a-mole
Feb 28 15:41:45 <mircea_popescu>	not now that it became clear bfl isn't delivering
Feb 28 15:42:02 <thestringpuller>	you defrauded your investors gigavps
Feb 28 15:42:06 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: so if mpex says I dont own shares of sdice, I sue Erik for my missing shares? >,>
Feb 28 15:42:21 <gigavps>	thestringpuller i've paid back payments on over 70% of gigamining
Feb 28 15:42:35 <gigavps>	so i'm not sure how that is defrauding ppl
Feb 28 15:42:39 <thestringpuller>	blackmailed them into submitting OFAC requests
Feb 28 15:42:49 <thestringpuller>	with id etc
Feb 28 15:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto no. on mpex you have receipts
Feb 28 15:43:03 <mircea_popescu>	you can prove what's what.
Feb 28 15:44:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]
Feb 28 15:44:04 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: f.giga.etf held the underlying asset at time of glbse closing [ ] Yes [ ] No
Feb 28 15:44:10 <jurov>	that's all
Feb 28 15:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Feb 28 15:45:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6889999 BTC [-]
Feb 28 15:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	that said, i did not hold it directly, i never had a GLBSE acct.
Feb 28 15:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	that said, there's no doubt in my mind the proper qtys were actually beingheld for me.
Feb 28 15:45:49 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: sure, but if mpex went away in an instant
Feb 28 15:45:53 <Ukto>	and I have a buy receipt
Feb 28 15:45:58 <Ukto>	and delete my sell receipt
Feb 28 15:46:02 <Ukto>	its now you word aginst mine
Feb 28 15:46:03 <Ukto>	right
Feb 28 15:46:04 <Ukto>	?
Feb 28 15:46:14 <gigavps>	funny mircea_popescu, why i sent the shares to you for the IPO i sent them to glbse username mircea_popescu
Feb 28 15:46:17 <Ukto>	no different than glbse
Feb 28 15:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto in principle there'd be at the very least a decoded db dump
Feb 28 15:46:18 <burnside>	newest receipt wins I think
Feb 28 15:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	but even if that's not the case : the trade history is public,
Feb 28 15:46:37 <Ukto>	are they constantly backed up offsite out of your control ?
Feb 28 15:46:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Feb 28 15:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	and you can match up what's what.
Feb 28 15:46:45 <Ukto>	ah
Feb 28 15:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	yes. http://mpex.co/faq.html#22
Feb 28 15:47:15 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu are you saying that you never owned the glbse account with the username mircea_popescu
Feb 28 15:47:22 <mircea_popescu>	the catastrophic failure mode is for each issuer to get a gpg-encypted list of the holder's fingerprints. much like rg got on the delisting of s.bvps
Feb 28 15:47:40 <mircea_popescu>	this can just be a pastebin if it comes to it
Feb 28 15:47:46 <gigavps>	seems a little odd
Feb 28 15:50:57 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu you never answered my question. I have records that the glbse account to take ownership of your 900 bonds was to the account with a username of mircea_popescu
Feb 28 15:51:45 <Ukto>	is that a question?
Feb 28 15:51:49 <Ukto>	seems more of a statement
Feb 28 15:52:31 <gigavps>	well, i'd like to know if my records are wrong
Feb 28 15:52:37 <gigavps>	seems to me they are not
Feb 28 15:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	is what a question
Feb 28 15:52:51 <ThickAsThieves>	what is a word
Feb 28 15:53:02 <grubles>	he is asking if mircea_popescu owned the mircea_popescu account on glbse
Feb 28 15:53:06 <grubles>	ffs
Feb 28 15:53:07 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu you never owned a glbse account with the username mircea_popescu?
Feb 28 15:53:12 <ThickAsThieves>	spam detected
Feb 28 15:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	herpderp
Feb 28 15:53:39 <gigavps>	seems a little odd if you did not
Feb 28 15:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	i don't own a mircea_popescu account on icbit.se either, since we're talking
Feb 28 15:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	i don't have a mtgox acct
Feb 28 15:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	and on it goes.
Feb 28 15:54:13 <gigavps>	they why did i transfer 900 gigamining bonds to that account?
Feb 28 15:54:23 <gigavps>	they/then/s
Feb 28 15:54:30 <Ukto>	so he did have them?
Feb 28 15:54:37 <dub>	its certainly not like mircea_popescu is known for employing lackeys for that kind fo thing
Feb 28 15:54:40 <gigavps>	when he first bought them
Feb 28 15:54:41 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe the person he had manage the account decided to make an account as his name?
Feb 28 15:55:16 <gigavps>	it's just weird tbh
Feb 28 15:55:18 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe it was mp and he's just fucking with you
Feb 28 15:55:40 <gigavps>	why? what good does it do anyone?
Feb 28 15:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe we'd best focus on how many people got separated from their residual btc because they didn't want to cough up for whatever apositlle bs
Feb 28 15:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	and break whatever local laws in the process.
Feb 28 15:56:15 <gigavps>	mircea_popescu why are you deflecting?
Feb 28 15:56:31 <gigavps>	like i said, over 70% of gigamining has been claimed and paid
Feb 28 15:56:42 <gigavps>	that is over 4k btc returned
Feb 28 15:56:57 <thestringpuller>	oooh 4k btc sooo much
Feb 28 15:57:06 <mod6>	smh
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Feb 28 15:57:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 28 15:57:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.12357, Best ask: 33.31649, Bid-ask spread: 0.19292, Last trade: 33.12257, 24 hour volume: 124639.50823768, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.60481
Feb 28 15:57:29 <mircea_popescu>	well at least the drama worked, price back up.
Feb 28 15:57:49 <grubles>	so mircea_popescu on glbse was not the mircea_popescu that is chatting in this channel?
Feb 28 15:58:14 <Ukto>	well thats good at lesat
Feb 28 15:58:25 <Ukto>	as I said, bots just needed time to resituate after a selloff
Feb 28 15:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	it wasn't even much of a selloff. 5k ?
Feb 28 15:58:45 <Bugpowder>	15
Feb 28 15:58:47 <mircea_popescu>	maybe things are a lot more fragile than the bull run past week suggests
Feb 28 15:59:06 <Bugpowder>	Just one person dumping
Feb 28 15:59:14 <Bugpowder>	I think
Feb 28 15:59:21 <Bugpowder>	it happened so fast, must have been
Feb 28 15:59:35 <grubles>	no one wants to answer my question? lol
Feb 28 15:59:37 <mod6>	retracement
Feb 28 15:59:49 <mod6>	little bit of profits are needed somewhere in the mix
Feb 28 15:59:53 <mod6>	then onwards and upwards
Feb 28 16:00:33 <mod6>	wake me up if it breaks past 27.5
Feb 28 16:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	you mean under ?
Feb 28 16:00:43 <mod6>	right
Feb 28 16:00:50 <grubles>	lol
Feb 28 16:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	hm, how accurate is blockchain.info when calcing the fees ?
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Feb 28 16:06:25 <burnside>	If all of the shareholders with over 900 shares have claimed, it sounds like whomever claimed the 900 shares of MP's on behalf of MP owes the passthru shareholders some BTC?
Feb 28 16:06:55 <gigavps>	burnside not if mircea_popescu sold them all before glbse closed
Feb 28 16:07:23 <burnside>	Yeah, I was operating on the assumption that he was being honest when he answered the question of ownership.
Feb 28 16:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	burnside this if we trust nefario
Feb 28 16:08:17 <mircea_popescu>	and for that matter, if we trust gigavps.
Feb 28 16:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	both appear very dubious atm.
Feb 28 16:08:27 <burnside>	heh, the twisted web we weave.
Feb 28 16:08:59 <Lyspooner>	*tangled web
Feb 28 16:09:12 <burnside>	that too
Feb 28 16:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	but pro memoria :
Feb 28 16:09:44 <jurov>	mircea_popescu did you claim you account after glbse closed?
Feb 28 16:09:56 <jurov>	of whoever was on mpex behalf
Feb 28 16:10:05 <jurov>	*of->or
Feb 28 16:10:12 <Lyspooner>	Oh! what a tangled web we weave
Feb 28 16:10:20 <Lyspooner>	When first we practice to deceive!
Feb 28 16:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't have an account to claim and i trust the op to not have claimed gigavps.
Feb 28 16:10:30 <Ukto>	what?
Feb 28 16:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	1. very dubious character noteworthy mostly for being detained at the border takes exchange down, which nets him a scammer tag.
Feb 28 16:10:37 <Ukto>	you didnt have an account?
Feb 28 16:10:44 <Ukto>	so someone else claimed the shares on your behalf?
Feb 28 16:10:47 <Ukto>	er bought them ?
Feb 28 16:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	2. some lists of shareholders are issued. these are wrong.
Feb 28 16:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	3. some more lists are issued. these are right, they say.
Feb 28 16:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	by now it's been about 3-4 months, and all this communication happened over email in plain text.
Feb 28 16:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	it would not surprise me if any of the three were the case :
Feb 28 16:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	a. nefario waited to see what's nto claimed, released lists including himself as beneficiary.
Feb 28 16:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	b. someone eavesdropped successfully, made claim.
Feb 28 16:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	c. gigavps is simply lieing (if nothing else for the simple interest that a 5 to 10% claim rate isn't something he'd like to admit)
Feb 28 16:13:01 <Ukto>	Sure, those are all reasonable
Feb 28 16:13:03 <gigavps>	well, we can rule out c, i have block chain transaction to prove what i have paid
Feb 28 16:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	now, all these may be or may not be true, tho i lean towards thinking at least one probably is.
Feb 28 16:13:14 <Ukto>	I am curious now that you mentioned it
Feb 28 16:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	this state of affairs does NOT give some confused individual license to come in here and ask loaded questions implying i did something wrong.
Feb 28 16:13:28 <Ukto>	did you yourself not actually have a GLBSE account and hold 900 shares?
Feb 28 16:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	he is welcome to appologise to me at any time for being an idiot and involving himself in this mess,
Feb 28 16:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	not that it'd make a difference,
Feb 28 16:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	just as he's welcome to appologise to other people for involving them in the other many messes he's created since his presence in bitcoin
Feb 28 16:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	but all this is not here nor there, and certainly has no point in our discussion.
Feb 28 16:14:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Feb 28 16:14:27 <grubles>	he said he 'didnt have an account to claim'
Feb 28 16:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i use brokers. i happen to think it's the correct way to do it.
Feb 28 16:14:37 <grubles>	so there mustve been an imposter on glbse with mircea_popescu 's name?
Feb 28 16:14:41 <Ukto>	ah
Feb 28 16:15:07 <Ukto>	but in your contract you didnt disclose that you held the shares via third party, right?
Feb 28 16:15:22 <Ukto>	MP is the OP for the etf asset, right?
Feb 28 16:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	it was amply disclosed here for instance.
Feb 28 16:15:40 <Ukto>	then that makes things simple
Feb 28 16:15:48 <Ukto>	can we get the third party to vrify your shares?
Feb 28 16:16:08 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto the problem is people work in bitcoin because they want to be anon.
Feb 28 16:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	for many people being involved in these things is professionally iffy
Feb 28 16:16:30 <Ukto>	um
Feb 28 16:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	you can lose your license as a stock broker for instance.
Feb 28 16:16:53 <mircea_popescu>	is it likely ? no. is it a risk people would run ? hell no.
Feb 28 16:16:55 <Ukto>	so your saying, that you used a 3rd party to buy the shares, and this person cannot be revealed?
Feb 28 16:17:09 <Ukto>	and that this person is a licensed stock broker?
Feb 28 16:17:16 <jurov>	http://web.archive.org/web/20121124181409/http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=F.GIGA.ETF
Feb 28 16:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not saying anything of the sort.
Feb 28 16:17:28 <Ukto>	wondering what the commentary is for then
Feb 28 16:17:45 <Ukto>	leaves the basic question again, can we hav this third party simply verify things?
Feb 28 16:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	it will not happen.
Feb 28 16:17:52 <Ukto>	"Yes, I held 900 shares of giga for MP"
Feb 28 16:18:03 <Ukto>	Reason ?
Feb 28 16:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	there's no reason for a reason.
Feb 28 16:18:22 <mircea_popescu>	nobody can suddenly decide "hey, i want your id"
Feb 28 16:18:24 <Ukto>	well, the issuer is claiming the shares didnt exist
Feb 28 16:18:26 <Ukto>	sounds like a reason :P
Feb 28 16:18:35 <mircea_popescu>	issuer can claim w/e the fuck he pleases.
Feb 28 16:18:50 <mircea_popescu>	once his cratered asset is worth something, the people holding it on mpex might be able to recover something
Feb 28 16:18:51 <Ukto>	i just think its sad that you wont clear your name if its that easy :(
Feb 28 16:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	as it is... heh.
Feb 28 16:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i happen to respect anonimity.
Feb 28 16:19:05 <Ukto>	alot of ppl respect you
Feb 28 16:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	and if im the only one here, that's great, i don't care.
Feb 28 16:19:15 <Ukto>	and while they should continue to
Feb 28 16:19:23 <Ukto>	its still best to show good faith in that respect
Feb 28 16:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	but this is a forewarning of things to come : i don't care what people manouver,
Feb 28 16:19:35 <mircea_popescu>	i won't reveal jack shit as a matter of going concern.
Feb 28 16:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	you don't get to spy on people just by manufacturing some concern trollage.
Feb 28 16:21:07 <Ukto>	heh
Feb 28 16:21:12 <Ukto>	well
Feb 28 16:21:15 <Ukto>	I give up
Feb 28 16:21:27 <Ukto>	I was just trying to be helpfull and make sure you got a clear name and everyone knew that giga was wrong
Feb 28 16:21:30 <Ukto>	you obviously dont care
Feb 28 16:21:31 <mircea_popescu>	thanks for playing.
Feb 28 16:21:57 <Ukto>	back to business as usual then. :)
Feb 28 16:22:33 <Lyspooner>	where were we?
Feb 28 16:22:45 <Ukto>	;;ticker
Feb 28 16:22:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.27001, Best ask: 33.33000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05999, Last trade: 33.33000, 24 hour volume: 125332.84318558, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.61138
Feb 28 16:22:48 <Ukto>	there
Feb 28 16:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	33land lol
Feb 28 16:22:54 <Lyspooner>	ah yes
Feb 28 16:22:59 <Lyspooner>	A Palmer too! No wonder why
Feb 28 16:23:07 <Lyspooner>	I felt rebuked beneath his eye.[
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Feb 28 16:24:33 <mod6>	Lyspooner == limerick king from zh?
Feb 28 16:25:10 <mod6>	that guy is hilarious
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Feb 28 16:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1485 @ 0.00637777 = 9.471 BTC [+]
Feb 28 16:33:41 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you know i just realised romanian YEARLY salary is like 100 btc
Feb 28 16:34:04 <kakobrekla>	hm
Feb 28 16:34:23 <Lyspooner>	unfair comparison
Feb 28 16:35:07 <Lyspooner>	romanian median yearly BTC salary is zero
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Feb 28 16:36:38 <mjr_>	whats up everyone
Feb 28 16:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	hater.
Feb 28 16:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ AAPL
Feb 28 16:38:16 <ThickAsThieves>	doubtful
Feb 28 16:38:39 <ThickAsThieves>	down -3.17
Feb 28 16:38:52 <ThickAsThieves>	AAPL is always down
Feb 28 16:39:10 <Lyspooner>	"what happens to bitcoin if the internet stops working?"... apparently if we look at romania where there still is no internet, there is at least one node, and that node becomes very wealthy
Feb 28 16:39:20 <mjr_>	AAPL Shall rise again!
Feb 28 16:39:31 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner literally the stuff involved in bitcoin could be done pen on paper
Feb 28 16:39:40 <mircea_popescu>	it'd take an army of slaves doing it, but it'd be done just fine.
Feb 28 16:39:47 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu that is true
Feb 28 16:40:04 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/28/girls-gone-wild-bankruptcy/1954419/   'Girls Gone Wild' goes bankrupt to dodge legal awards
Feb 28 16:40:30 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu: i just wanted to make fun of romania
Feb 28 16:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	but you suck so badly at it!
Feb 28 16:41:41 <mircea_popescu>	dude i love blogging. there's all these people making comments.
Feb 28 16:41:52 <mircea_popescu>	TIL that most ycombinator ventures use godaddy as a registrar.
Feb 28 16:42:48 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu you just closed -eu 1 min too soon
Feb 28 16:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Feb 28 16:43:37 <kakobrekla>	22:34.06 .•• mircea_popescu ( ~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu ) left #bitcoin-otc-eu ( "Leaving" )
Feb 28 16:43:37 <kakobrekla>	22:37.07 .•• allex ( bd6eb8e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.110.184.231 ) joined #bitcoin-otc-eu
Feb 28 16:43:37 <kakobrekla>	22:37.15 ( allex ) Hello
Feb 28 16:43:37 <kakobrekla>	22:37.43 ( allex ) I need some traders to join my p2p bitcoin exchange site
Feb 28 16:43:37 <kakobrekla>	22:38.01 ( allex ) the name of the site is
Feb 28 16:43:39 <kakobrekla>	22:38.03 ( allex ) http://www.p2pbitexchange.com
Feb 28 16:43:39 <kakobrekla>	22:39.39 ( kakobrekla ) what scam is this now
Feb 28 16:43:43 <ThickAsThieves>	wasnt your post 2nd on google like a few hours ago?
Feb 28 16:43:52 <ThickAsThieves>	for 'ycombinator'
Feb 28 16:43:53 <kakobrekla>	22:40.22 ( allex ) ?
Feb 28 16:43:53 <kakobrekla>	22:40.32 ( allex ) haha isnt a scam
Feb 28 16:43:54 <kakobrekla>	22:41.15 ( allex ) there is no midle man (as it were) involved. Only p2p
Feb 28 16:43:54 <kakobrekla>	22:42.12 ( allex ) <kakobrekla>
Feb 28 16:43:54 <kakobrekla>	22:43.47 ( kakobrekla ) how is it better than irc and -otc wot allex
Feb 28 16:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yeah
Feb 28 16:44:35 <ThickAsThieves>	gone
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Feb 28 16:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	aww!
Feb 28 16:45:06 <ThickAsThieves>	coinlab called up Brin
Feb 28 16:45:13 <ThickAsThieves>	was like yo axe that shit
Feb 28 16:45:52 <mjr_>	i have to say that godaddy's superbowl commercial and subsequent ad campaign was probably the most successful campaign of any internet company
Feb 28 16:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves http://www.google.com/search?q=Ycombinator&complete=0&tbs=qdr:d
Feb 28 16:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	i still see it. you don't ?
Feb 28 16:46:25 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ that may be, but they suck at the actual soup.
Feb 28 16:46:37 <mjr_>	definitely
Feb 28 16:46:40 <mjr_>	they are the worst
Feb 28 16:46:42 <mjr_>	i use namecheap
Feb 28 16:46:48 <jurov>	i don't see it
Feb 28 16:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla well... wait till he finds about localbitcoins or w/e its called
Feb 28 16:46:53 <mjr_>	but still, why does everyone use them, when it is known that they suck
Feb 28 16:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i use nc too.
Feb 28 16:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	and imo they're so far ahead of anyone in their field it's rare.
Feb 28 16:47:06 <kakobrekla>	22:44.14 ( allex ) The idea is to build a comunity of trders
Feb 28 16:47:07 <kakobrekla>	22:44.23 ( allex ) once again only P2P
Feb 28 16:47:07 <kakobrekla>	22:44.47 ( allex ) to build trust
Feb 28 16:47:07 <kakobrekla>	22:45.02 ( allex ) by rating the trades
Feb 28 16:47:07 <kakobrekla>	22:45.32 ( allex ) the focus is on exchange of bitcoins only nothing else
Feb 28 16:47:07 <kakobrekla>	22:46.13 ( allex ) There is groups os paypal, nettler , poker , cash , western union
Feb 28 16:47:08 <kakobrekla>	22:46.37 ( allex ) Got the idea?
Feb 28 16:47:16 <kakobrekla>	prolly built the site firt then come to -ot
Feb 28 16:47:17 <kakobrekla>	c
Feb 28 16:47:22 <kakobrekla>	first*
Feb 28 16:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla see how lucky you are he's enlightening you ?
Feb 28 16:47:48 <mircea_popescu>	ask him if he's romanian.
Feb 28 16:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	he sounds like 100 btc / year.
Feb 28 16:48:17 <kakobrekla>	meh
Feb 28 16:48:28 <kakobrekla>	im le tierd from those kind of conversations.
Feb 28 16:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	im lucky. i think i have a reputation for an asshole, so most fragile minds avoid me or something.
Feb 28 16:49:25 <ThickAsThieves>	when you link, yes
Feb 28 16:49:30 <kakobrekla>	dont push it, ill send him here
Feb 28 16:49:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i see it
Feb 28 16:49:40 <ThickAsThieves>	but when i use URL bar to search, no
Feb 28 16:49:52 <ThickAsThieves>	whatever the hell reason that is
Feb 28 16:50:08 <ThickAsThieves>	it gives me much more sensible listings
Feb 28 16:50:13 <ThickAsThieves>	like their home page
Feb 28 16:50:22 <ThickAsThieves>	and wikipedia, etc
Feb 28 16:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves it's 24 hours
Feb 28 16:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	not any time
Feb 28 16:52:09 <mircea_popescu>	&tbs=qdr:d that's what it does.
Feb 28 16:52:09 <gribble>	Error: "tbs=qdr:d" is not a valid command.
Feb 28 16:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	saywut ?!
Feb 28 16:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	&ticker
Feb 28 16:52:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.60000, Best ask: 33.69300, Bid-ask spread: 0.09300, Last trade: 33.60000, 24 hour volume: 126392.80990105, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.62583
Feb 28 16:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	aHAHAHA
Feb 28 16:52:26 <mod6>	nice
Feb 28 16:52:31 <mircea_popescu>	today we learn to hax BOTH google and gribble.
Feb 28 16:52:51 <ThickAsThieves>	&estimate
Feb 28 16:52:53 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4413018.97089 based on data since last change | 4676975.06762 based on data for last three days
Feb 28 16:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	is this even documented anywhere ?!
Feb 28 16:53:08 <ThickAsThieves>	now i only have to hit two keys at once!
Feb 28 16:53:10 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Feb 28 16:53:24 <Lyspooner>	&!estimate
Feb 28 16:53:25 <gribble>	Error: "!estimate" is not a valid command.
Feb 28 16:53:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;&estimate
Feb 28 16:53:37 <gribble>	Error: "&estimate" is not a valid command.
Feb 28 16:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	&bitchslap
Feb 28 16:53:44 <ThickAsThieves>	&;;estimate
Feb 28 16:53:44 <gribble>	Error: "bitchslap" is not a valid command.
Feb 28 16:53:44 <gribble>	Error: ";;estimate" is not a valid command.
Feb 28 16:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	&slap bitch
Feb 28 16:53:52 *	gribble slaps bitch with a smarmy flask
Feb 28 16:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Feb 28 16:54:18 <Lyspooner>	&ticker
Feb 28 16:54:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.66100, Best ask: 33.68999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02899, Last trade: 33.66100, 24 hour volume: 126401.21754295, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.62637
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Feb 28 16:54:41 <ThickAsThieves>	undocumented feature for realz
Feb 28 16:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	&roulette
Feb 28 16:54:44 <gribble>	*click*
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Feb 28 16:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	awesome.
Feb 28 16:55:02 <ThickAsThieves>	&easteregg
Feb 28 16:55:03 <gribble>	Error: "easteregg" is not a valid command.
Feb 28 16:55:05 <ThickAsThieves>	boo
Feb 28 16:55:17 <Lyspooner>	$ticker
Feb 28 16:55:32 <ThickAsThieves>	you broke it
Feb 28 16:55:34 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Feb 28 16:59:17 <dub>	did people get the right asicminer test payment?
Feb 28 16:59:28 <dub>	they seem to have missed a 0 of mine
Feb 28 16:59:41 <mircea_popescu>	didn't they testy with 1 satoshi first
Feb 28 16:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	and then send the real deal, like 2.35% ?
Feb 28 16:59:54 <ThickAsThieves>	they sent already
Feb 28 17:00:01 <ThickAsThieves>	its done
Feb 28 17:00:07 <dub>	fucking china
Feb 28 17:00:25 <ThickAsThieves>	friedcat will posting more deets after his nap
Feb 28 17:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/131/btc-will-have-a-new-highest-price-in/
Feb 28 17:02:31 <dub>	what was the actual payment per share?
Feb 28 17:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	resolved. who'd have thunk it will be february seriously.
Feb 28 17:02:46 <dub>	this is lulzy
Feb 28 17:03:05 <mircea_popescu>	dub Feb 28 20:46:46 <B0g4r7_>	Got my asicminer div.  0.0023544 BTC per share.
Feb 28 17:03:23 <dub>	ok actual payment was good
Feb 28 17:03:25 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu: according to your permanent plateau article, you would've thunk it
Feb 28 17:03:36 <dub>	I only got 0.1 satoshi per share int eh test though
Feb 28 17:03:37 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner yeah.
Feb 28 17:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	dub weren't all payments = 1 satoshi irrespective of shares ? just to check addy
Feb 28 17:03:59 <dub>	I DEMAND MY ADDITIONAL SATOSHIS
Feb 28 17:04:14 <dub>	mircea_popescu: no, mine was missing a zero
Feb 28 17:04:42 <dub>	oh wait
Feb 28 17:04:57 <dub>	wat?
Feb 28 17:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	lmao. so now we know you have 10 shares ?
Feb 28 17:05:07 <dub>	no
Feb 28 17:05:11 <dub>	try to keep up
Feb 28 17:05:25 <ThickAsThieves>	dub they did a test first
Feb 28 17:05:26 <dub>	also how the fuck do you send 0.1 satoshi ? ;)
Feb 28 17:05:32 <ThickAsThieves>	1 satoshi x shares you own
Feb 28 17:05:42 <ThickAsThieves>	then they did payout
Feb 28 17:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	you had 10 shares got 1 satoshi computed per share div. right ?
Feb 28 17:05:44 <dub>	yes, except in my case they didnt
Feb 28 17:05:49 <dub>	no
Feb 28 17:05:55 <mircea_popescu>	my theory ;/
Feb 28 17:05:57 <dub>	I got 0.1 satoshi per share
Feb 28 17:06:15 <ThickAsThieves>	did you get correct divs?
Feb 28 17:06:19 <dub>	yes
Feb 28 17:06:27 <ThickAsThieves>	let's get the pitchforks then
Feb 28 17:06:33 <dub>	my carefactor is 0.00001
Feb 28 17:06:39 <dub>	except its kinda retarded of them
Feb 28 17:07:27 <ThickAsThieves>	one thing i love about bitbet
Feb 28 17:07:28 <dub>	one retarded action begets another
Feb 28 17:07:33 <ThickAsThieves>	is when i forget that i bet on something
Feb 28 17:07:36 <ThickAsThieves>	and the money comes in
Feb 28 17:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it makes a pretty decent gift too
Feb 28 17:09:34 <dub>	this fucking thread
Feb 28 17:09:42 <jurov>	yes it's nice... now if i could learn to make acceptable bets :/
Feb 28 17:09:57 <dub>	I wanna buy 2.7 shares please PM me its srs bsns
Feb 28 17:10:17 <jurov>	with coinlab it's hard cause nobody knows what they're even doing/wanna do
Feb 28 17:10:49 <ThickAsThieves>	i was thinking, a good round of bets might be for those tv competition shows
Feb 28 17:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yeah srsly i don't think it's your fault
Feb 28 17:10:56 <ThickAsThieves>	like who will win Top Chef
Feb 28 17:11:02 <ThickAsThieves>	Top Model, etc
Feb 28 17:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves that's a point yea
Feb 28 17:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/39/network-difficulty-under-6-million/
Feb 28 17:11:25 <dub>	I like the fatest americans show
Feb 28 17:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	i find this incredible. 3:2 srsly ?!
Feb 28 17:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	how the fuck is output growing 50% in three weeks
Feb 28 17:11:51 <dub>	biggest loser
Feb 28 17:12:10 <ThickAsThieves>	ha i bet on ttaht one too and didnt remember
Feb 28 17:12:11 <Bugpowder>	This is why nobody buys my XDIFFMAR
Feb 28 17:12:14 <Bugpowder>	like
Feb 28 17:12:19 <Bugpowder>	damn
Feb 28 17:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	only 15 btc total...
Feb 28 17:12:34 <dub>	its pretty much teh only tv I watch, gf calls out 'fatties are on' and I run
Feb 28 17:12:54 <ThickAsThieves>	Survivor
Feb 28 17:12:57 <ThickAsThieves>	thats a good one
Feb 28 17:13:05 <ThickAsThieves>	for betting
Feb 28 17:13:24 <dub>	nah, I want to kill americans if I watch that
Feb 28 17:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	the last i saw something on tv tiffani amber thiessen was like 17
Feb 28 17:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	and pretty hawt at that.
Feb 28 17:13:42 <dub>	the only thing worse than an american is an american out of america
Feb 28 17:13:43 <ThickAsThieves>	she's still pretty hot
Feb 28 17:14:04 <ThickAsThieves>	she play The Perfect Wife on that show White Collar
Feb 28 17:14:05 <mod6>	dub: you're not gonna let me live on your couch?
Feb 28 17:14:30 <mod6>	</sarc!>
Feb 28 17:14:31 <dub>	wait thats not survivor, im thinking greatest race
Feb 28 17:14:54 <kakobrekla>	btw whats the max diff change per diff change
Feb 28 17:14:57 <ThickAsThieves>	horrible show
Feb 28 17:14:58 <kakobrekla>	i forgot
Feb 28 17:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla 400
Feb 28 17:15:05 <kakobrekla>	400 what
Feb 28 17:15:08 <kakobrekla>	%?
Feb 28 17:15:29 <dub>	survivor I can't watch because I am basically bear grylls and I want them to die for lack of survival skills
Feb 28 17:16:04 <ThickAsThieves>	amazing race, my wife goes oh we should do that! i'm like, why, these people all wanna kill each other in the end
Feb 28 17:16:12 <Lyspooner>	kakobrekla, yes 4x
Feb 28 17:16:27 <kakobrekla>	aha
Feb 28 17:16:30 <kakobrekla>	ok
Feb 28 17:16:33 <Lyspooner>	happened once to the namecoins
Feb 28 17:16:51 <kakobrekla>	death also happend to those once
Feb 28 17:17:00 <Lyspooner>	easy
Feb 28 17:17:30 <mircea_popescu>	yes %
Feb 28 17:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	i had some namecoins once i think
Feb 28 17:18:54 <dub>	did you? or did mircea_popescu?
Feb 28 17:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah! actually,
Feb 28 17:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	someone had them for me, cause *they* registered some domains for me.
Feb 28 17:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	tru story, fo realz.
Feb 28 17:19:37 <dub>	what on earth for?
Feb 28 17:19:54 <mircea_popescu>	dub well at the time a. i was new and b. the entire dns seemed like it may work
Feb 28 17:19:59 <dub>	you're that guy that registered the dictionary right?
Feb 28 17:20:05 <mircea_popescu>	it wasn't anything worth the mention anyway.
Feb 28 17:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Feb 28 17:20:16 <dub>	probably the glbse ticker squatter too
Feb 28 17:20:27 <mircea_popescu>	no i think i had mpoe or w/e
Feb 28 17:22:05 <ThickAsThieves>	LTC is doing pretty well this week
Feb 28 17:22:25 <ThickAsThieves>	considering
Feb 28 17:22:27 <kakobrekla>	compared to bananas?
Feb 28 17:22:32 <mircea_popescu>	is ltc the scam one ?
Feb 28 17:22:35 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Feb 28 17:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	solidsomething ?
Feb 28 17:22:44 <kakobrekla>	yes L = solid
Feb 28 17:22:45 <dub>	ripple
Feb 28 17:22:46 <kakobrekla>	lul
Feb 28 17:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	a ltc is the one altchain that's not really scammy ?
Feb 28 17:22:54 <ThickAsThieves>	nvc is the loud scam currently
Feb 28 17:23:04 <dub>	ppcoin is the jesuscoin
Feb 28 17:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla soLid hater :D
Feb 28 17:23:12 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 28 17:23:32 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc back at 7 cents ea
Feb 28 17:23:42 <kakobrekla>	usd or btc
Feb 28 17:23:44 <kakobrekla>	?
Feb 28 17:23:48 <ThickAsThieves>	usd
Feb 28 17:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	what's the block count ?
Feb 28 17:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/S.MPOE-PT o hey, mpoe shares worth like a quarter ltc.
Feb 28 17:29:31 <ThickAsThieves>	303599
Feb 28 17:29:33 <ThickAsThieves>	blox
Feb 28 17:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	"I have updated average hashrates used in our calculations. Currently LTC is 1.15 times more profitable than BTC. We don't take into account energy costs in our calculations."
Feb 28 17:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	sounds legit.
Feb 28 17:29:53 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah i like litecoinglobal
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Feb 28 17:30:31 <ThickAsThieves>	whenever btc rises too fast ltc plummets
Feb 28 17:30:44 <ThickAsThieves>	then you snag em up and buy btc stocks on ltc global
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Feb 28 17:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	interesting
Feb 28 17:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves is there a webwallet like blockchain.info's ?
Feb 28 17:32:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno
Feb 28 17:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	this looks kinda promising https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Feb 28 17:32:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont store any ltc
Feb 28 17:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	anyone know Jonathan Warren ?
Feb 28 17:32:20 <ThickAsThieves>	just play it against btc
Feb 28 17:32:45 <jurov>	bitcoin gods have smitten me for the blasphemy of questioning tx fees: https://blockchain.info/tx/ff83b94bbcfd52f84e205edebb8dd1c30253d785c666776cb735edba7a93f6b4
Feb 28 17:32:58 <jurov>	still unconfirmed... i shall repent
Feb 28 17:33:17 <mircea_popescu>	two hours
Feb 28 17:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 17.25 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 17:40:51 <ThickAsThieves>	&ticker
Feb 28 17:40:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.33000, Best ask: 33.39527, Bid-ask spread: 0.06527, Last trade: 33.39547, 24 hour volume: 127753.02919259, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.64861
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Feb 28 17:41:17 <jcpham>	)ticker
Feb 28 17:41:25 <jcpham>	*ticker
Feb 28 17:41:33 <jcpham>	$ticker
Feb 28 17:41:54 <ThickAsThieves>	•ticker
Feb 28 17:42:01 <jcpham>	~ticker
Feb 28 17:42:06 <jcpham>	^ticker
Feb 28 17:42:10 <ThickAsThieves>	¢ticker
Feb 28 17:42:22 <ThickAsThieves>	׎ticker
Feb 28 17:42:31 <ThickAsThieves>	+ticker
Feb 28 17:43:00 <jurov>	ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ ticker
Feb 28 17:43:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.2999 = 2.6991 BTC [-]
Feb 28 17:43:48 <dub>	!ticker ,,ticker
Feb 28 17:43:48 <assbot>	Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
Feb 28 17:45:58 <kakobrekla>	Just lucky i guess.
Feb 28 17:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	ah im the coolest ticker boy
Feb 28 17:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	other boys wanna be as cool but
Feb 28 17:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	there can only be one
Feb 28 17:47:17 <mircea_popescu>	lalala
Feb 28 17:47:55 <jurov>	very suspicious good mood there
Feb 28 17:48:06 <jcpham>	i concur
Feb 28 17:48:39 <mircea_popescu>	my 1.76 liter bottle of vodka is still mostly full.
Feb 28 17:52:05 <dub>	mix it with red grapefruit juice
Feb 28 17:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	im mixing it with fresh orange juice actually.
Feb 28 17:56:12 <dub>	for bonus points find some elderflower to infuse in it then mist with the red grapefruit
Feb 28 17:56:41 *	dub has some home distilled elderflower vodka
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Feb 28 17:57:12 <BitHub>	hey did you guys get another payment from asicminer?
Feb 28 17:57:28 <dub>	2nd or 3rd?
Feb 28 17:58:09 <BitHub>	i woke up to a payment this morning
Feb 28 17:58:13 <BitHub>	a nice chunky worth
Feb 28 17:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	dub since you happen to mention this
Feb 28 17:58:55 <dub>	they paid a ~2% div after the test run
Feb 28 17:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/elderberry-cordial/
Feb 28 17:59:35 <BitHub>	sweeet
Feb 28 17:59:37 <BitHub>	that's duuuubs
Feb 28 17:59:42 <BitHub>	thanks
Feb 28 18:00:22 <dub>	mircea_popescu: cool
Feb 28 18:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	one of my fav drinks.
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Feb 28 18:02:19 <dub>	goog fails to translate it, do the bugs go in the cordial a la tequila worms?
Feb 28 18:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	nah, they're extraneous. just happened to have a lot of them
Feb 28 18:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	for some odd reason. it was like a sort of comedy routine, another bug kept popping p
Feb 28 18:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, elderberry cordial is one of those things that make eastern europe eastern europe
Feb 28 18:07:05 <dub>	I don't know if berry and flower are even related but only flowers are harvested in our case
Feb 28 18:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	i call it elderberry cause it's the name of the plant.
Feb 28 18:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise yes, the flower in full bloom are used.
Feb 28 18:08:04 <dub>	probably the same then, you should try mixing some with the vodka
Feb 28 18:08:18 <mircea_popescu>	nah cause it has sugar added
Feb 28 18:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136209270610.jpg i wonder if she catches many bad guys.
Feb 28 18:08:43 <dub>	just to flavour not as the acutal mixer
Feb 28 18:09:10 <kakobrekla>	impractical footwear.
Feb 28 18:09:19 <BitHub>	i'm here for you mircea
Feb 28 18:09:29 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla maybe she ain't made for walkin'.
Feb 28 18:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub you love me too ?
Feb 28 18:10:13 <kakobrekla>	i dunno, id be afraid to hurt myself around her
Feb 28 18:10:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;google love hurts
Feb 28 18:10:41 <gribble>	Love Hurts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Hurts>; nazareth love hurts (1976) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soDZBW-1P04>; Nazareth - Love Hurts - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ7Myy7Hpxw>
Feb 28 18:10:54 <kakobrekla>	;;google fuck shouldnt hurt (too much)
Feb 28 18:10:55 <gribble>	Olivia Newton-John - Love Shouldn't Hurt Lyrics: <http://www.lyricsmania.com/love_shouldnt_hurt_lyrics_olivia_newton-john.html>; Heartbreak Quotes: <http://members.tripod.com/mi_ruka0/id17.html>; Breastfeeding is not supposed to hurt: <http://nurturedchild.ca/index.php/2011/10/11/breastfeeding-is-not-supposed-to-hurt/>
Feb 28 18:11:06 <BitHub>	of course mircea i love you very much (no homo)
Feb 28 18:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;google you're just being sexist.
Feb 28 18:11:13 <gribble>	Seth MacFarlane and the Oscars' Hostile, Ugly, Sexist Night : The ...: <http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/02/seth-macfarlane-and-the-oscars-hostile-ugly-sexist-night.html>; Seth MacFarlane's Sexist Oscar Night: Why everyone is outraged ...: <http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/not-just-another-sexist-night-at-the-oscars--nope--this-one-took-the-cake--thanks-to-host- (1 more message)
Feb 28 18:11:27 <kakobrekla>	;;google fine w/e
Feb 28 18:11:28 <gribble>	WeLoveFine - for fans by fans: <http://www.welovefine.com/>; We Feel Fine / by Jonathan Harris and Sep Kamvar: <http://www.wefeelfine.org/>; Weekly Standard's Fred Barnes: Fine, We're The Party Of Whitey ...: <http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/plank/110264/fred-barnes-fine-were-the-party-whitey>
Feb 28 18:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;google spam detected
Feb 28 18:11:37 <gribble>	Why is my Message Detected as Spam?: <http://www.arclab.com/products/amlc/email-message-detected-as-spam-junk.html>; Bayesian spam filtering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_spam_filtering>; Email Spam Detection, Prevention, and Protection Solution – Anti ...: <http://www.proofpoint.com/products/protection/spam-detection.php>
Feb 28 18:11:42 <kakobrekla>	;;google where?
Feb 28 18:11:43 <gribble>	Where's My Refund - It's Quick, Easy and Secure.: <http://www.irs.gov/Refunds/Where's-My-Refund-It's-Quick,-Easy,-and-Secure.>; where - Wiktionary: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary:where>; Where | Define Where at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/where>
Feb 28 18:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	ok i give.
Feb 28 18:12:47 <kakobrekla>	00:11.43 ( gribble ) Where's My Refund
Feb 28 18:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	actually the nazareth song is pretty good.
Feb 28 18:12:51 <kakobrekla>	no refund, this is bitcoin
Feb 28 18:12:55 <kakobrekla>	cant do dat!
Feb 28 18:12:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5599 @ 0.00071771 = 4.0185 BTC [-]
Feb 28 18:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071528 = 3.5764 BTC [-]
Feb 28 18:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 17.25 BTC [-]
Feb 28 18:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1651 @ 0.0007147 = 1.18 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 18:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	four score and eight years ago back when i was still a kid you couldn't finish a party w/o love hurts.
Feb 28 18:13:51 <mircea_popescu>	it was the final my place or your place settlement.
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Feb 28 18:17:31 <BitHub>	i dont think i've heard that song
Feb 28 18:18:48 <dub>	watch the movie dazed and confused for its standard application
Feb 28 18:19:23 <dub>	as mircea_popescu says
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Feb 28 18:19:39 <mod6>	that guy jason london was in the news lately LOL
Feb 28 18:19:41 <mod6>	http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/29/jason-london-arrested-crapped-assault-mug-shot/
Feb 28 18:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	is that the one with the jovovich woman ?
Feb 28 18:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	the fetish joan of arc / 5th element, lanky model ?
Feb 28 18:20:09 <dub>	yus
Feb 28 18:20:26 <dub>	mila jojojojoYOLOvish
Feb 28 18:21:00 <dub>	in fact one of teh best movies ever
Feb 28 18:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	"Guess what fa**ot?  I f***ing love this.  I f***ing own you guys so hard.  I'm rich and I'm a motherf***ing famous actor!  F***ing look me up, bitch."
Feb 28 18:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	sad.
Feb 28 18:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	why do actors end up living such sad, empty existences ?
Feb 28 18:21:31 <BitHub>	she was real hot in 5th element
Feb 28 18:21:34 <mod6>	no clue
Feb 28 18:21:39 <mod6>	what a fucking douche bag
Feb 28 18:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	they're almost like boxers, except without the soothing cranial nerve numbing
Feb 28 18:21:49 <BitHub>	because its hollywood
Feb 28 18:21:59 <BitHub>	and you got to do some reall queer ghey ritual stuff to make it
Feb 28 18:21:59 <mod6>	haha, he got his shit rocked though
Feb 28 18:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	"Some guy thought I was hitting on his girl and had me jumped. My wife was in the next room, had no idea what even happened. I hate Arizona."
Feb 28 18:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	dude srsly ? i loved arizona
Feb 28 18:22:37 <mod6>	same
Feb 28 18:22:41 <dub>	http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0518715/ he's been in a great many things I've never heard of
Feb 28 18:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	possibly for the same reasons.
Feb 28 18:22:53 <mod6>	speaking of which...
Feb 28 18:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	i guess now i have to see Dazed and Confused huh
Feb 28 18:23:00 <mod6>	any smickles these days?
Feb 28 18:23:01 <dub>	yes you do
Feb 28 18:23:09 <mod6>	;;seen smickles
Feb 28 18:23:10 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 12 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Feb 28 18:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	nope smickles has been awol.
Feb 28 18:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	i hope he's fine
Feb 28 18:23:51 <dub>	it came out when I was in high school, my parents saw it and told me someone had made a movie about me and my friends
Feb 28 18:24:12 <mod6>	i bet he's just at the bunny ranch
Feb 28 18:24:16 <mod6>	i know i would be
Feb 28 18:24:49 <Namworld>	does TMZ really counts as news...
Feb 28 18:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	dub lmao
Feb 28 18:24:59 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld dude totally. i trust them above reddit.
Feb 28 18:25:23 <BitHub>	don't see the movie dazed and confused
Feb 28 18:25:28 <BitHub>	unless you enjoy comas
Feb 28 18:33:37 <mircea_popescu>	France’s industry minister Tuesday called for a lower euro and said the European Central Bank’s [ECB] role should be reinterpreted, wading back into a currency debate that had been calmed by an agreement between the world’s top finance ministers earlier in the month to refrain from competitive devaluations of their currencies
Feb 28 18:33:39 <mircea_popescu>	o boy.
Feb 28 18:35:21 <dub>	the movie proceeded to be watched by my group of friends any time a night wsa over and people were in varios states of stupor/comedown
Feb 28 18:35:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00849 BTC [-]
Feb 28 18:35:47 <dub>	conservatively I'd guess I've watched it 100 times
Feb 28 18:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	at 10 bux a pop the movie industry of america made > 1k dolla off this great success.
Feb 28 18:37:41 <dub>	in the western world we had innovated to the point of VHS by that time
Feb 28 18:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	piracy!
Feb 28 18:38:53 <dub>	this was also far enough int eh past that a movie ticket was closer to $5
Feb 28 18:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	also piracy.
Feb 28 18:39:22 <mircea_popescu>	and tax evasion.
Feb 28 18:40:33 <BitHub>	el mariachi
Feb 28 18:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4113 @ 0.0007306 = 3.005 BTC [+]
Feb 28 18:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00074007 = 1.8872 BTC [+]
Feb 28 18:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00074837 = 12.161 BTC [+]
Feb 28 18:42:11 <BitHub>	damu assbot
Feb 28 18:42:17 <BitHub>	how u do that
Feb 28 18:47:28 <dub>	has anyone tried calling smickles?
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Feb 28 18:57:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3313 @ 0.00642 = 21.2695 BTC [-]
Feb 28 18:57:53 <mod6>	i didn't wanna bother him really
Feb 28 19:01:16 <mod6>	just an address here, no number: http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/corp-detail.p?name-id=L18030781
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Feb 28 19:08:52 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Feb 28 19:08:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.40000, Best ask: 33.43800, Bid-ask spread: 0.03800, Last trade: 33.43800, 24 hour volume: 126480.50958443, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.69548
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Feb 28 19:28:03 <Bowjob>	So maybe Yifu ran away with the money after all
Feb 28 19:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 17.25 BTC [-]
Feb 28 19:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6815 = 2.0445 BTC [-]
Feb 28 19:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.682 = 3.41 BTC [+]
Feb 28 19:37:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.687 = 3.435 BTC [+]
Feb 28 19:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]
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Feb 28 19:40:17 <Bowjob>	oh yeah dividends
Feb 28 19:42:42 <mircea_popescu>	it paid ?
Feb 28 19:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	dub im with mod6
Feb 28 19:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	no pressing business, just hoping he's ok.
Feb 28 19:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob wait,what ? link ?
Feb 28 19:47:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9809 @ 0.00075 = 7.3568 BTC [+]
Feb 28 19:49:08 <dub>	im just curious, I know he was holding coin for at least mrstringpuller
Feb 28 19:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12356 @ 0.0007537 = 9.3127 BTC [+]
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Feb 28 19:57:39 <Bowjob>	wait no it did not lol
Feb 28 19:57:50 <Bowjob>	i just said.. oh yeah, meaning dividends coming up
Feb 28 19:57:52 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 28 19:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	i meant re yifu
Feb 28 19:58:52 <Bowjob>	Well, we haven't heard from him yet, we'll see
Feb 28 19:59:07 <Bowjob>	but today is the deadline, so i expected him to go.. blah blah, batch 1 all sent
Feb 28 19:59:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0064 BTC [-]
Feb 28 19:59:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 399 @ 0.0065 = 2.5935 BTC [+]
Feb 28 20:01:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 60 @ 0.00417 = 0.2502 BTC [-]
Feb 28 20:07:11 <dub>	Avalols will be had
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Feb 28 20:11:30 <Bowjob>	if it turns out to be a scam, ill consider it a failed 50% satoshi bet
Feb 28 20:12:49 <kakobrekla>	i think its good to se new faces in mining
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Feb 28 20:13:12 <Bowjob>	i still have no clue on how to run avalon
Feb 28 20:13:13 <Bowjob>	lol
Feb 28 20:13:14 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Feb 28 20:13:17 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223671 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 104 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 14 hours, 51 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4400531.71063 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.52911
Feb 28 20:13:19 <Bowjob>	it cant be that hard
Feb 28 20:13:27 <dub>	kakobrekla: how is project x coming along?
Feb 28 20:13:41 <kakobrekla>	which of the four?
Feb 28 20:14:11 <dub>	damn. come on bfl
Feb 28 20:14:29 <dub>	right now there still a chance of making my coin back
Feb 28 20:14:36 <Bowjob>	bullshit fabrication lab
Feb 28 20:14:38 <kakobrekla>	on what?
Feb 28 20:14:42 <dub>	on bfl
Feb 28 20:14:51 <kakobrekla>	you bought their shit?
Feb 28 20:14:51 <Bowjob>	how much did u spend
Feb 28 20:15:16 <dub>	I bought a pga single early on and an i teh top 100 order for an upgrade
Feb 28 20:15:40 <Bowjob>	ur prolly better off hoarding the coins
Feb 28 20:15:40 <kakobrekla>	and we had respect for you!
Feb 28 20:16:26 <dub>	like fuck you did. but hey, I waited till their pga existed and there wasnt a whole lot of choise about upgrading
Feb 28 20:16:33 <dub>	choice*
Feb 28 20:17:12 <Bowjob>	damn. ASIC miner
Feb 28 20:17:14 <Bowjob>	:/
Feb 28 20:17:21 <Bowjob>	i didnt get any
Feb 28 20:17:22 <Bowjob>	lol
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Feb 28 20:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	avalols lol
Feb 28 20:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol wait. waitwait
Feb 28 20:27:45 <mircea_popescu>	dub doesn't have btc cause they suck but he has bfl receipts of equity investing becauise they don't suck ?!
Feb 28 20:27:46 <mircea_popescu>	ajhahahaha
Feb 28 20:28:44 <dub>	yeah man bfl ? btc any day
Feb 28 20:28:54 <dub>	s/?/>
Feb 28 20:29:14 <BitHub>	i got an email from bfl asking for another 100btc, just to secure my order more, legit?
Feb 28 20:29:23 <dub>	wat
Feb 28 20:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	no wai ?!
Feb 28 20:29:26 <BitHub>	jk
Feb 28 20:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	hi sir please send money to secure your sent money more
Feb 28 20:29:45 <BitHub>	haha
Feb 28 20:29:47 <BitHub>	imagine that
Feb 28 20:29:50 *	BitHub shakes head
Feb 28 20:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	what we mean is this : we put the money you sent as a payment for a toyota camry
Feb 28 20:30:01 <mircea_popescu>	now if we don't make the next payment we lose the car
Feb 28 20:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	 so...
Feb 28 20:30:06 *	Ukto sends mircea_popescu a toy-yoda
Feb 28 20:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	toyadda lol
Feb 28 20:30:35 <BitHub>	what we mean is "we need to go on another holiday, so.......yeah could you send another secure payment to make the last payment more secure?"
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Feb 28 20:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	please to securitize your previous payment
Feb 28 20:31:02 <dub>	camry shmamry, corolla or nothing
Feb 28 20:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	toyota coyote.
Feb 28 20:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	that'd kickass.
Feb 28 20:31:26 <BitHub>	"we need to go on another holiday because we're so stressed up and people keep calling us all the time where are the bfl's and we just need to get away to france for a month or something yaknow?"
Feb 28 20:31:29 *	dub lubs his corolla
Feb 28 20:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	everyone lubes their machinery
Feb 28 20:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's required for functioning
Feb 28 20:32:10 <dub>	moar like "we're going to need a lot more than a quarter to buy micon a clue"
Feb 28 20:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	wait. wait omg wtf. we have ycombinator to thank for disqus ?!
Feb 28 20:32:22 <mircea_popescu>	o burn them with fire.
Feb 28 20:34:12 <Bowjob>	*sigh,. avalol got the bflu
Feb 28 20:35:50 <Bugpowder>	My god... Zerohedge commenters are significantly more retarded than redditors
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Feb 28 20:36:43 <Bugpowder>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-28/bitcoin-your-thoughts
Feb 28 20:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is true
Feb 28 20:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	i quoted a diff article yest, was horribly clueless.
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Feb 28 20:39:09 <Bugpowder>	Where are the intelligent forums these days?  Reddit and slashdot used to be ok 4 and 12 years ago
Feb 28 20:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-26/alternative-currency-goes-mainstream-bitcoin-atms-emerge
Feb 28 20:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	get a load of that
Feb 28 20:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	replete with the "hands stuffed in ears going lalala bitcoin is a scam"
Feb 28 20:39:38 <Bugpowder>	I guess it's all on twitter now
Feb 28 20:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i would guess some sections of irc.
Feb 28 20:39:52 <Bugpowder>	My twitter feed is excellent
Feb 28 20:39:57 <mircea_popescu>	something bashful likes to pretend they're the solution, but i dunno.
Feb 28 20:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, you probably curate it.
Feb 28 20:40:46 <Bugpowder>	I interact with nature editors, star scientists, great writers, etx
Feb 28 20:40:55 <Bugpowder>	Yes curation is
Feb 28 20:40:56 <Bugpowder>	Key
Feb 28 20:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	well if you curate it then everything is fine.
Feb 28 20:41:22 <mircea_popescu>	you can turn zh into gold by selecting the one nugged to be found in there
Feb 28 20:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	(somewhere)
Feb 28 20:41:34 <mircea_popescu>	the idea is to have something that works by itself.
Feb 28 20:41:40 <Bugpowder>	Also a 3:1 ratio of following to followers
Feb 28 20:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	followers means pretty much jack.
Feb 28 20:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	i turned my twitter acct into a rss feed of trilema, i still have k's of followers.
Feb 28 20:42:55 <Bugpowder>	I try to maintain a ratio that makes me look important.  Like the line at the club
Feb 28 20:43:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 28 20:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	then 1:3 ?
Feb 28 20:43:17 <Bugpowder>	Yah
Feb 28 20:43:19 <Bugpowder>	Oops
Feb 28 20:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	at least it wasn't brains.
Feb 28 20:46:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00075 = 8.85 BTC [-]
Feb 28 20:47:30 <Bowjob>	satoshi dice not getting much love these days
Feb 28 20:48:20 <mircea_popescu>	whats it at, 13k ?
Feb 28 20:49:19 <Bowjob>	yah
Feb 28 20:49:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.2999 = 1.7994 BTC [-]
Feb 28 20:51:26 <Bugpowder>	People are always about a week slow on sdice
Feb 28 20:52:13 <Bugpowder>	I am pretty sure there is another whale network with at least 10,000 coins doing a fair amount of betting
Feb 28 20:52:23 <mircea_popescu>	well da fuck.
Feb 28 20:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	so i quit twitter about 2 years ago ? cause it fucked up the site and it didn't work for me anymore.
Feb 28 20:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	so now you had me test it out and it works
Feb 28 20:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	i guess ima have to get back into it now ;/
Feb 28 20:53:37 <Bugpowder>	Yeah dude, get back in.  It is not busted anymore
Feb 28 20:53:54 <Bugpowder>	And the quality level is very high in the right circles
Feb 28 20:54:07 <Bugpowder>	Plus it only takes a minute to write a post
Feb 28 20:54:17 <Bugpowder>	Rather than the 2 hours a good blog
Feb 28 20:54:18 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Feb 28 20:54:21 <Bugpowder>	Post takes
Feb 28 20:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	it only takes me 20-30 minutes really.
Feb 28 20:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5018 @ 0.0007537 = 3.7821 BTC [+]
Feb 28 20:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	o wow, they added a request archive link
Feb 28 20:56:43 <mircea_popescu>	bejesus twitter desuckified in the interim
Feb 28 20:57:15 *	burnside is now known as burnside_afk
Feb 28 21:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	haha i followed mod6
Feb 28 21:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	what's your name bugsy ?
Feb 28 21:02:46 <BitHub>	Are you hiring mircea?
Feb 28 21:02:56 <thestringpuller>	XD
Feb 28 21:03:43 <thestringpuller>	The whales live! Are the whales really rich people? Or just people who acquired BTC early on and held it.
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Feb 28 21:04:43 <mircea_popescu>	now the monster task of purging the 1k+ romanian hotties i used to follow
Feb 28 21:04:49 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub yes.
Feb 28 21:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;google mpex old style pr
Feb 28 21:05:00 <gribble>	MPEx hiring: old style PR : Bitcoin: <http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1743ib/mpex_hiring_old_style_pr/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter>; MPEx hiring : old style PR pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-hiring-old-style-pr/>; FAQ - MPEx: <http://mpex.co/faq.html>
Feb 28 21:06:10 <thestringpuller>	This is the best reddit post I've ever thing!
Feb 28 21:06:15 <thestringpuller>	seen*
Feb 28 21:06:21 <thestringpuller>	wtf
Feb 28 21:06:42 <thestringpuller>	I made a lisp when I typed...
Feb 28 21:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol ?
Feb 28 21:08:30 <thestringpuller>	Is bitcoinstore.com down for anyone else?
Feb 28 21:08:34 <thestringpuller>	Roger Ver is a poop.
Feb 28 21:09:01 <BitHub>	old style pr?
Feb 28 21:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	yea.
Feb 28 21:09:11 <thestringpuller>	leflor@machine-zero:~/bitcoin/src$ ping bitcoinstore.com
Feb 28 21:09:13 <thestringpuller>	PING bitcoinstore.com (50.97.67.189) 56(84) bytes of data.
Feb 28 21:09:16 <thestringpuller>	 
Feb 28 21:09:18 <thestringpuller>	 
Feb 28 21:09:19 <thestringpuller>	 
Feb 28 21:09:31 <thestringpuller>	Ctrl-^
Feb 28 21:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	dude all these nineteen yearolds that meanwhile are like... stale.
Feb 28 21:10:22 <thestringpuller>	wtf you on about?
Feb 28 21:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	my twitter acct
Feb 28 21:15:36 <mircea_popescu>	purging the lists
Feb 28 21:16:18 <thestringpuller>	what is your twitter
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Feb 28 21:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	mircea_popescu
Feb 28 21:17:08 <thestringpuller>	!ticker X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 28 21:17:09 <assbot>	These beans is shit.
Feb 28 21:17:14 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR
Feb 28 21:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (25 shares, 1.90 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06479693 / 0.07595 (343 shares, 22.23 BTC)
Feb 28 21:17:37 <thestringpuller>	25 have sold since last Thursday? Hmm.
Feb 28 21:18:21 <Bugpowder>	Buy buy buy
Feb 28 21:18:21 <thestringpuller>	LOL the X.IDIFF mini Bidwall at .59 came down
Feb 28 21:18:30 <thestringpuller>	HAHA
Feb 28 21:18:46 <Bugpowder>	.52 I think
Feb 28 21:18:59 <thestringpuller>	oh yea .529 :P
Feb 28 21:21:04 <thestringpuller>	;;calc .20 * 4407941.34969 + 4407941.34969
Feb 28 21:21:05 <gribble>	5289529.61963
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Feb 28 21:21:16 <thestringpuller>	guess he didn't wanna take the chance :P
Feb 28 21:25:43 <thestringpuller>	mpex is a scam waaaah
Feb 28 21:25:56 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is a big meanie head who runs a stock exchange
Feb 28 21:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	what'd i do now
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Feb 28 21:32:53 <Chaang-Noi>	asic miner dividend was less than i hoped, but at least they paid off debt:)
Feb 28 21:34:01 <thestringpuller>	;;rating
Feb 28 21:34:01 <gribble>	Error: "rating" is not a valid command.
Feb 28 21:34:02 <BitHub>	how often is it suppose to be, once a month?
Feb 28 21:34:07 <thestringpuller>	;;rate
Feb 28 21:34:07 <gribble>	(rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.
Feb 28 21:34:19 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating
Feb 28 21:34:19 <gribble>	(getrating <nick>) -- Get rating information for <nick>.
Feb 28 21:34:24 <thestringpuller>	;;trust
Feb 28 21:34:25 <gribble>	Error: "trust" is not a valid command.
Feb 28 21:34:28 <thestringpuller>	;;help
Feb 28 21:34:29 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Feb 28 21:34:32 <thestringpuller>	;;commands
Feb 28 21:34:32 <gribble>	8ball, ?, about, action, add, alert, alias, announce, announce add, announce list, announce remove, any, aol, apply, apropos, asks, at, auth, author, avgprc, azn, balance, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, bashorg, bc,24hprc, bc,avgprc, bc,bitpenny, bc,blockdiff, bc,blocks, bc,bounty, bc,btcguild, bc,calc, bc,calcd, bc,convert, bc,deepbit, bc,diff, bc,diffchange, bc,eligius, (10 more messages)
Feb 28 21:34:49 <mod6>	&8ball
Feb 28 21:34:50 <gribble>	One would be wise to think so.
Feb 28 21:34:53 <mod6>	;)
Feb 28 21:35:12 <mod6>	wassup nao
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Feb 28 21:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	oookay...
Feb 28 21:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	so my twitter is back in business.
Feb 28 21:40:26 <mod6>	:D
Feb 28 21:40:50 <BitHub>	need me to run it for you mircea?
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Feb 28 21:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	haha run it for me ?
Feb 28 21:43:30 <BitHub>	the social media marketing side of mpex
Feb 28 21:44:02 <BitHub>	1btc a week :)
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Feb 28 21:46:30 <mod6>	there is a website!?
Feb 28 21:46:36 <kakobrekla>	it is now
Feb 28 21:46:48 <thestringpuller>	;;everify
Feb 28 21:46:49 <gribble>	(everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
Feb 28 21:46:56 <thestringpuller>	;;eauth thestringpuller
Feb 28 21:46:57 <gribble>	Request successful for user thestringpuller, hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/0FF2943DA179E169
Feb 28 21:47:14 <mod6>	kakobrekla: haha sweet
Feb 28 21:47:26 <kakobrekla>	:)
Feb 28 21:47:44 <thestringpuller>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5af29369e5025bbf7423455eb3d2b10f55b11c8fc3be18129ad56e58
Feb 28 21:47:45 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user thestringpuller with key 0FF2943DA179E169
Feb 28 21:47:45 <mod6>	you kids and your python
Feb 28 21:47:48 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Feb 28 21:47:48 <gribble>	You are identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
Feb 28 21:49:42 <thestringpuller>	new rating mr popescu
Feb 28 21:49:44 <thestringpuller>	:P
Feb 28 21:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Feb 28 21:49:50 <thestringpuller>	;;rated mircea_popescu
Feb 28 21:49:50 <gribble>	You rated user mircea_popescu on Thu Feb 28 18:49:21 2013, giving him a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: upgraded to mah nigga.
Feb 28 21:49:56 <BitHub>	racist
Feb 28 21:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 28 21:51:17 <thestringpuller>	the "what'd I do now" made me trust you more
Feb 28 21:51:21 <thestringpuller>	comment*
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Feb 28 21:57:20 <pigeons>	site looking good kakobrekla
Feb 28 21:57:27 <kakobrekla>	ty
Feb 28 21:58:10 <pigeons>	if you'd use bootstrap you might get some VC money
Feb 28 21:58:20 <kakobrekla>	lolzz
Feb 28 22:01:22 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Feb 28 22:02:21 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu << so i brought my old twitter out of retirement
Feb 28 22:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone cares.
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Feb 28 22:26:47 <ThickAsThieves>	so NVC is falling, LTC is rising further
Feb 28 22:26:54 <ThickAsThieves>	.0755 USD now
Feb 28 22:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Feb 28 22:29:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.41001, Best ask: 33.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08998, Last trade: 33.41001, 24 hour volume: 75885.19008028, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 33.00577
Feb 28 22:30:12 <kakobrekla>	its a different feeling
Feb 28 22:30:19 <kakobrekla>	lookin at 31.90 from this side
Feb 28 22:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Feb 28 22:31:01 <kakobrekla>	;;tsbl
Feb 28 22:31:02 <gribble>	Error: "tsbl" is not a valid command.
Feb 28 22:31:05 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Feb 28 22:31:22 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 33 seconds
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Feb 28 22:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#11
Feb 28 22:38:06 <mircea_popescu>	added socket and sierracharts plugin courtesy of kako
Feb 28 22:39:31 <BitHub>	i need the ticker data
Feb 28 22:40:18 <mod6>	lol, i was just thinking "hmm, i wonder if there is a python plug in for vim..." the first return from google is this stack-exchange article where this has 11 points:
Feb 28 22:40:30 <mod6>	I really like the emacs editor for python because of it's smart tabbing for instance if I have something like this
Feb 28 22:40:35 <mod6>	EMACS?!
Feb 28 22:40:38 <mod6>	haha f that
Feb 28 22:40:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 400 @ 0.00643 = 2.572 BTC [+]
Feb 28 22:41:10 <mod6>	http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9172802/setting-up-vim-for-python
Feb 28 22:43:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 18 @ 0.35 = 6.3 BTC [+]
Feb 28 22:43:27 <mod6>	maybe i'll have to try something like this: http://sontek.net/blog/detail/turning-vim-into-a-modern-python-ide#window-splits
Feb 28 22:44:26 <mod6>	perl is seemingly on constant decay mode
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Feb 28 22:49:18 <Namworld>	People loading up for the dividend it seems
Feb 28 22:50:13 <kakobrekla>	whats the div gonna be
Feb 28 22:50:28 <ThickAsThieves>	like 1.4%
Feb 28 22:50:37 <ThickAsThieves>	a little less maybe
Feb 28 22:50:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Feb 28 22:54:16 <Namworld>	;;calc (14000/100000000)/0.006
Feb 28 22:54:17 <gribble>	0.0233333333333
Feb 28 22:54:22 <Namworld>	More like 2.3%
Feb 28 22:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	hey! like asicminer!
Feb 28 22:55:33 <BitHub>	ALL HAIL ASICMINER
Feb 28 22:55:38 <BitHub>	AND ITS GLORIOUS DIVS
Feb 28 22:57:56 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Feb 28 22:58:03 <gribble>	Time since last block: 8 minutes and 11 seconds
Feb 28 22:59:36 <mircea_popescu>	course if we consider something like the .5 asicminer is trading instead of the original .1 in the calculation
Feb 28 22:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	the div drops to something more like .45%
Feb 28 23:02:50 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Have they listed it on any exchange yet?
Feb 28 23:02:55 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I kinda want to buy.
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Feb 28 23:03:40 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Maybe someone in here is selling.
Feb 28 23:03:56 <BitHub>	no selling
Feb 28 23:04:01 <BitHub>	stay away from me
Feb 28 23:04:06 <Eduard_Munteanu>	:)
Feb 28 23:04:16 *	BitHub hugs his asicminer shares
Feb 28 23:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol i think the forum was doing the selling
Feb 28 23:04:44 <BitHub>	its too late
Feb 28 23:04:58 <Eduard_Munteanu>	On bitcointalk? I've seen that thread, but I have no idea how to buy one.
Feb 28 23:04:59 <BitHub>	selling, trading was suppose to stop on the 28th.
Feb 28 23:05:10 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Why?
Feb 28 23:05:38 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I don't want in on the IPO, I know that's over. Just the secondary market.
Feb 28 23:05:39 <BitHub>	so friedcat could go through all the request and emails and assign shares to new people, its alot of work yaknow
Feb 28 23:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	prolly a klundy implementation of post-ex date
Feb 28 23:05:45 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Ah.
Feb 28 23:06:04 <BitHub>	just wait a few weeks
Feb 28 23:06:06 <ThickAsThieves>	.006?
Feb 28 23:06:15 <ThickAsThieves>	sry i'm late
Feb 28 23:06:15 <BitHub>	i think they're doing something under the name bitfountain
Feb 28 23:06:56 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Any idea when trading will resume?
Feb 28 23:07:12 <BitHub>	well they just paid the first div, sooooo
Feb 28 23:07:18 <BitHub>	few weeks?
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Feb 28 23:07:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [-]
Feb 28 23:07:38 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm.. what's BASIC-MINING?
Feb 28 23:07:47 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I know, probably unrelated.
Feb 28 23:07:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.63899 BTC [-]
Feb 28 23:08:02 <BitHub>	be ready to pay high for them tho
Feb 28 23:08:10 <Eduard_Munteanu>	BitHub: how high?
Feb 28 23:08:28 <BitHub>	where you are, look at the moon or sun.
Feb 28 23:08:33 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Heh.
Feb 28 23:08:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Feb 28 23:08:50 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I've been told 1 BTC is a borderline acceptable price.
Feb 28 23:09:01 <BitHub>	yeah i was think around that
Feb 28 23:09:04 <BitHub>	1btc
Feb 28 23:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144319.0
Feb 28 23:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	girl says .5 to .75 or so
Feb 28 23:12:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i was pretty far off with that sdice div
Feb 28 23:12:53 <ThickAsThieves>	i think i just got the 14k mixed up with the % in my head
Feb 28 23:13:12 <ThickAsThieves>	although i dont think .0060 is fair avg price to use
Feb 28 23:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Feb 28 23:13:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00580004 / 0.00626259 / 0.0063799 (55247 shares, 345.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00572194 / 0.0062105 / 0.00638999 (316226 shares, 1,963.92 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00602991 / 0.007395 (6837075 shares, 41,226.99 BTC)
Feb 28 23:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	wh not ? 30 day vwap.
Feb 28 23:13:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i suppose
Feb 28 23:13:53 <ThickAsThieves>	but that includes the tranches
Feb 28 23:14:10 <ThickAsThieves>	which were flipped
Feb 28 23:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	um
Feb 28 23:14:45 <BitHub>	lul mircea, not a real girl
Feb 28 23:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	huh ?
Feb 28 23:17:01 <BitHub>	is she real or is it just you?
Feb 28 23:17:21 <BitHub>	you can tell me :)
Feb 28 23:18:09 <mircea_popescu>	she's real.
Feb 28 23:18:19 <ThickAsThieves>	how come she doesnt hang in here
Feb 28 23:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	well, she wouldn't hang on the forum either if it weren't her job
Feb 28 23:18:54 <BitHub>	yeah she should be on irc, marketing/pr
Feb 28 23:19:09 <BitHub>	keeping BitHub company
Feb 28 23:19:49 <BitHub>	why are you cockblocking the rest of us mircea? :(
Feb 28 23:20:43 <Namworld>	Because that would be extra work for PR, so more salary to pay?
Feb 28 23:20:56 <Namworld>	and mircea is already handling IRC
Feb 28 23:21:18 <BitHub>	extra? i thought it was included ontop of social media?
Feb 28 23:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	ya there's little benefit of redundancy.
Feb 28 23:21:50 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, any new IPOs this spring?
Feb 28 23:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	if any companies worth listing get their shit together...
Feb 28 23:22:16 <BitHub>	lul
Feb 28 23:22:37 <BitHub>	when are you going to do a deal with wallstreet like coinlab?
Feb 28 23:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	so far we're still at the "but we don't need more btc" / "we are making our own exchange" phase it seems.
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Feb 28 23:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub in 2012.
Feb 28 23:23:33 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, who do you think are the best non-"public" bitcoin companies that would feasible IPO someday
Feb 28 23:24:26 <ThickAsThieves>	not necessarily on mpex
Feb 28 23:24:33 <ThickAsThieves>	wherever
Feb 28 23:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	hard to tell.
Feb 28 23:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much everything is needed.
Feb 28 23:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	we need a bitcoin ebay. that bitmit thing ain't it. once it exists it could ipo
Feb 28 23:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	something like bitmessage.org could ipo if it actually finished the product and monetized it
Feb 28 23:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	in between these there's a huge space. pretty much anything could if it made sense.
Feb 28 23:30:41 <mircea_popescu>	currently there's not that many people focused on making sense tho.
Feb 28 23:31:12 <ThickAsThieves>	whats bitmit's problem
Feb 28 23:31:22 <ThickAsThieves>	other than that it feels scammy to surf
Feb 28 23:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	complete lack of relevance basically.
Feb 28 23:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	what's the value proposition, why am i using it instead of ebay ?
Feb 28 23:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	"because bitcoin" ? that dun wash, it's not 2011.
Feb 28 23:32:44 <ThickAsThieves>	while i dont disagree i cant think of what could make a bitbay more relevant
Feb 28 23:33:00 <mircea_popescu>	there's this failed "web entrepreneur" mindset at work, "we make the site, the users fill it with stuff". that's nonsense.
Feb 28 23:33:17 <mircea_popescu>	simple : large supply of actually in demand goods cheaper than in fiat.
Feb 28 23:33:36 <ThickAsThieves>	like a retailer
Feb 28 23:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	show me a bottle of coke costing 99 cents on ebay and 96 cents on bitmit.
Feb 28 23:33:45 <BitHub>	bithub.asia will ipo
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Feb 28 23:36:08 <ThickAsThieves>	sry all i could find was a $32 weed stash https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/16772-soda-can-safe
Feb 28 23:36:15 <ThickAsThieves>	no coke
Feb 28 23:37:26 <kakobrekla>	> ideal for hiding your valuables in plain sight.
Feb 28 23:37:38 <kakobrekla>	hey dude why is your beer not in the fridge?
Feb 28 23:37:52 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Feb 28 23:38:14 <ThickAsThieves>	put it in the fridge then
Feb 28 23:38:22 <ThickAsThieves>	"hey man why is there weed in your beer"
Feb 28 23:38:30 <kakobrekla>	hey dude why there is no beer in this beer
Feb 28 23:38:47 <ThickAsThieves>	still a lot of room for online gambling
Feb 28 23:38:49 <kakobrekla>	problems all around.
Feb 28 23:38:57 <ThickAsThieves>	sealswithclubs is a trainwreck website
Feb 28 23:39:18 <kakobrekla>	it is.
Feb 28 23:39:33 <ThickAsThieves>	bitbet poker then?
Feb 28 23:39:36 <BitHub>	something better will come along
Feb 28 23:40:00 <BingoBongo>	I'm not sure I haven't seen any online poker that doesn't look like a shit show.
Feb 28 23:40:30 <BitHub>	bitpoke.com
Feb 28 23:41:28 <ThickAsThieves>	you think a bitstaprint.com would take?
Feb 28 23:42:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume vistaprint.com is wellknown in the world
Feb 28 23:42:23 <ThickAsThieves>	forgive me if that was a random reference
Feb 28 23:43:06 <BingoBongo>	A Bitstaprint might take, but the margins might suck.
Feb 28 23:43:36 <ThickAsThieves>	vistaprint really did fuck everyone in that sense
Feb 28 23:43:43 <ThickAsThieves>	no margin left
Feb 28 23:44:04 <ThickAsThieves>	although i still broker printing thru my biz for way more than vistraprint charges
Feb 28 23:44:14 <ThickAsThieves>	small biz will pay for better printing
Feb 28 23:44:54 <ThickAsThieves>	ive debated doing a bitcoin printer site
Feb 28 23:45:02 <BingoBongo>	The Vistaprint model seems to be:
Feb 28 23:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves what's wrong with seals ?
Feb 28 23:45:11 <BingoBongo>	1. Collect a lot of capital
Feb 28 23:45:25 <BingoBongo>	2. Die way too slowly undercutting the competition
Feb 28 23:45:26 <ThickAsThieves>	its totally unappealling to even consider reading their offerings
Feb 28 23:45:30 <kakobrekla>	lame ops, lame client, lame lamers
Feb 28 23:45:36 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Feb 28 23:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	so someone should make a poker site then
Feb 28 23:45:51 <ThickAsThieves>	seals looks like a scam
Feb 28 23:46:09 <ThickAsThieves>	if they just spent a few grand on some hot design
Feb 28 23:46:12 <ThickAsThieves>	tahts go a long way
Feb 28 23:46:18 <ThickAsThieves>	thatd*
Feb 28 23:46:24 <mircea_popescu>	this "design solves problems" approach is naive.
Feb 28 23:46:30 <ThickAsThieves>	not solves
Feb 28 23:46:32 <ThickAsThieves>	facilitates
Feb 28 23:46:42 <mircea_popescu>	design is not cocksucking.
Feb 28 23:46:50 <ThickAsThieves>	it's makeup though
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Feb 28 23:47:24 <BingoBongo>	Seals big problem now seems to be Micon can't take a little bit of retliatory trolling from BFL and his gamlbing instincts are betraying his lack of marketing instincts
Feb 28 23:47:49 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah he isnt doing his biz any favors
Feb 28 23:47:55 <ThickAsThieves>	with those youtube vids and shit
Feb 28 23:48:10 <ThickAsThieves>	or maybe he is
Feb 28 23:48:21 <ThickAsThieves>	no such thing as bad publicity some say
Feb 28 23:48:49 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, i dont think great design is required for utility, but it is a part of salesmanship and interactivity
Feb 28 23:49:11 <ThickAsThieves>	(aside from uix design, which is a diff converation)
Feb 28 23:49:19 <BingoBongo>	I've bet against BFL, but BFL can probably stay at the edge of shipping another 9 months and still keep some trust. The problem is that Josh is just a better troll than Micon.
Feb 28 23:49:40 <ThickAsThieves>	and people want what josh is selling
Feb 28 23:50:23 <ThickAsThieves>	compare avalon and BFL designwise
Feb 28 23:50:41 <ThickAsThieves>	which one can get away with more
Feb 28 23:50:53 <ThickAsThieves>	and appears more trustable
Feb 28 23:50:58 <BingoBongo>	Micon's problem is he revealed his scammer intuition on BFL, but he played the Queen's gambit and is falling apart now that Black took his bishop's pawn.
Feb 28 23:51:08 <ThickAsThieves>	even the product design of BFL is considered
Feb 28 23:51:22 <BingoBongo>	BFL and Avalon both look insufficiently competent to do what they do.
Feb 28 23:51:45 <BingoBongo>	Avalon's shipped maybe 5, 7 products in a month
Feb 28 23:52:06 <BingoBongo>	BFL "killed" a wafer to test their layout.
Feb 28 23:52:12 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Feb 28 23:52:27 <BingoBongo>	BFL also sent chips to get bumped without a goddam map.
Feb 28 23:52:37 <splnkr>	they did it cause of the lateness of everything else
Feb 28 23:52:57 <BingoBongo>	provided they did get chips into "bumping"
Feb 28 23:52:57 <ThickAsThieves>	the lateness was their own fault though
Feb 28 23:53:12 <ThickAsThieves>	they didnt have to ever be late
Feb 28 23:53:17 <splnkr>	i think that was a good idea, to 'kill' that wafer for testing given lateeness, cause that testing through which the killed wafer is going is the next step of the pipeline
Feb 28 23:53:22 <ThickAsThieves>	if they planned and managed the project properly
Feb 28 23:53:28 <splnkr>	and we at this poing should expect delays at every point
Feb 28 23:53:39 <ThickAsThieves>	it was a good idea PRwise
Feb 28 23:53:43 <splnkr>	so the testing's lateness is going in parallel
Feb 28 23:53:56 <BingoBongo>	If it was a 200mm wafer they easily killed $45,000 though
Feb 28 23:54:24 <splnkr>	45000 in sales, but $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in long-term revenue, but -$$$$ in gain for those waiting
Feb 28 23:55:02 <BingoBongo>	Not in sales, in pure expense. Like BFL said that is roughly a thousand chips once it is broken up.
Feb 28 23:55:51 <splnkr>	yeah still, a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme
Feb 28 23:55:58 <ThickAsThieves>	splnkr dont overestimate how quickly these devices will be delivered because they killed that wafer
Feb 28 23:56:00 <BingoBongo>	The lost retail product that wafer might have delivered would probably be mid six figures if the box and fans are free
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Feb 28 23:56:14 <splnkr>	let's say for argument they have 10000 orders.
Feb 28 23:56:23 <ThickAsThieves>	their first shipments will be small
Feb 28 23:56:28 <splnkr>	average out to like 50ghs a sec
Feb 28 23:56:32 <ThickAsThieves>	also
Feb 28 23:56:43 <ThickAsThieves>	dont pretend they wont prioritize minirig buyers
Feb 28 23:56:46 <BingoBongo>	Raw order numbers mean nothing when you segment the market like BFL did
Feb 28 23:56:54 <ThickAsThieves>	cuz they will
Feb 28 23:57:25 <splnkr>	well that's why i'm saying average, from minirig to jalapeno
Feb 28 23:57:26 <ThickAsThieves>	minirig buyers can afford to fly out there and tear them a new asshole
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Feb 28 23:58:07 <ThickAsThieves>	they will probably hide that though
Feb 28 23:58:12 <ThickAsThieves>	by shipping slowly
Feb 28 23:58:28 <ThickAsThieves>	or lying about what portion of chips got used for what
Feb 28 23:58:37 <splnkr>	so we're talking 500THz capacity, i doubt one wafer loss is really that big a deal
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Mar 01 00:01:34 <ThickAsThieves>	yknow i could actually compete with vistaprint on some things
Mar 01 00:01:40 <BingoBongo>	One might not be bad,  but it is one out of six, with some of those six apparently unfinished. It could be very bad if the tests fail.
Mar 01 00:01:47 <ThickAsThieves>	they arent as cheap as they used to be it seems
Mar 01 00:01:53 <BingoBongo>	Better cardstock?
Mar 01 00:02:06 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Mar 01 00:02:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7420 @ 0.00075999 = 5.6391 BTC [+]
Mar 01 00:02:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5151 @ 0.00076 = 3.9148 BTC [+]
Mar 01 00:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.725 = 6.9 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 00:03:39 <ThickAsThieves>	damn they arent that cheap at all anymore
Mar 01 00:03:51 <ThickAsThieves>	$140 for 1000postcards
Mar 01 00:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.679 = 2.037 BTC [-]
Mar 01 00:04:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.68 = 4.76 BTC [+]
Mar 01 00:05:01 <BingoBongo>	Fuck postcards. How many  business cards do you think you could deliver for $100 printing on veal parchment?
Mar 01 00:05:19 <ThickAsThieves>	0
Mar 01 00:06:49 <ThickAsThieves>	but my wholesale cost on 1000 UV gloss color business cards is like $17
Mar 01 00:07:04 <ThickAsThieves>	printed both sides
Mar 01 00:07:34 <ThickAsThieves>	which i retail for like $80
Mar 01 00:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [+]
Mar 01 00:08:04 <topace_>	woohoo my HIM split script worked
Mar 01 00:08:12 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe grats
Mar 01 00:08:33 <topace_>	now down to ~$60/share instead of $600 :p
Mar 01 00:09:22 <ThickAsThieves>	but when will you release your asicssssss
Mar 01 00:09:32 <topace_>	haha talk to BFL :p
Mar 01 00:11:04 <topace_>	you know i wasnt bothered about the delays at all , since it just meant better return from the FPGA's...  as long as everyone was delayed... but no w that some asics are out.. its gonna get annoying reaaaaaal quick
Mar 01 00:11:41 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,diff
Mar 01 00:11:42 <gribble>	3651011.6306932
Mar 01 00:11:46 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
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Mar 01 00:11:49 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223698 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 77 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 10 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4400426.03912 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.52621
Mar 01 00:12:06 <ThickAsThieves>	annoying in about 11 hours
Mar 01 00:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	ahhh
Mar 01 00:14:27 <topace_>	lol yea
Mar 01 00:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	shrimp + pasta in garlic white sauce (whole flour!)
Mar 01 00:14:46 <mircea_popescu>	breakfast of champions
Mar 01 00:15:51 <BingoBongo>	Who has solid food for breakfast. Vodka + Simple Syrup FTW.
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Mar 01 00:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	thats for yesterday.
Mar 01 00:18:49 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 01 00:18:53 <kakobrekla>	ez money?
Mar 01 00:18:54 <BingoBongo>	Was Yesterday a special occasion that deserved better?
Mar 01 00:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 01 00:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	lalala
Mar 01 00:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 01 00:47:56 <jurov>	very suspicious good mood there
Mar 01 00:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 01 00:48:07 <jcpham>	i concur
Mar 01 00:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 01 00:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	my 1.76 liter bottle of vodka is still mostly full.
Mar 01 00:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 01 00:52:06 <dub>	mix it with red grapefruit juice
Mar 01 00:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 01 00:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	im mixing it with fresh orange juice actually.
Mar 01 00:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	nothing much
Mar 01 00:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00637776 = 6.3778 BTC [-]
Mar 01 00:21:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00637777 = 25.5111 BTC [+]
Mar 01 00:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.651 = 1.953 BTC [-]
Mar 01 00:22:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.6505 = 9.107 BTC [-]
Mar 01 00:22:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.65 = 19.5 BTC [-]
Mar 01 00:22:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.649 = 1.947 BTC [-]
Mar 01 00:22:25 <BingoBongo>	I mean we passed the Mt Gox high, but apparently some exchange Blockchain.info follows had the  high price at $35, so I've saving the cigars
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Mar 01 00:26:44 <Bowjob>	fuck the rain
Mar 01 00:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.679 = 2.037 BTC [+]
Mar 01 00:28:23 <BingoBongo>	So, BFL is is Kansas City. Is Josh/Inaba Rock chalk like a Jayhawk or like General Quantrill does e see all of the common sense reasons why Lawrence should burn?
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Mar 01 00:29:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5655 @ 0.00076 = 4.2978 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 00:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.9988 = 1.9976 BTC [+]
Mar 01 00:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 6 @ 1 = 6 BTC [+]
Mar 01 00:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/LPmQ46C.jpg
Mar 01 00:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin entrepreneur (he thinks)
Mar 01 00:35:24 <Namworld>	who's that?
Mar 01 00:35:35 <BitHub>	mircea wtf
Mar 01 00:35:48 <BitHub>	stop sharing my fb profile pic
Mar 01 00:35:48 <BingoBongo>	What happpened to his forhead?
Mar 01 00:36:06 <kakobrekla>	brain has to grow somewhere
Mar 01 00:36:09 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1568249#msg1568249
Mar 01 00:36:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00637777 = 31.8889 BTC [+]
Mar 01 00:36:17 <Namworld>	Oh, it's BitHub
Mar 01 00:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	hes' the "bitmillions new" guy
Mar 01 00:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.650005 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 00:37:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.650005 = 4.55 BTC [-]
Mar 01 00:37:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 22 @ 0.65000001 = 14.3 BTC [-]
Mar 01 00:37:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.65 = 4.55 BTC [-]
Mar 01 00:37:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.649 = 7.788 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 00:37:43 <BitHub>	so this guy is an aussie scammer?
Mar 01 00:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	more like aussie idiot
Mar 01 00:38:13 <BitHub>	want me to bash him?
Mar 01 00:38:16 <BitHub>	i have a crew
Mar 01 00:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	no cause you might accidentally fix his hairline
Mar 01 00:38:31 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 01 00:38:39 <BitHub>	its no problem
Mar 01 00:38:53 <mircea_popescu>	he's bashed enough as it is
Mar 01 00:38:58 <BitHub>	okey
Mar 01 00:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	since bitcoin i've become real good at counting zeros
Mar 01 00:39:46 <BitHub>	i'm joking anyway i dont really do that
Mar 01 00:40:54 <BingoBongo>	MP, this trolling something awful deal is taking a while. In the interim could you maybe hold a contest for spotting extra chromosones on bitcointalk?
Mar 01 00:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 01 00:41:18 <Namworld>	lol what
Mar 01 00:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	actually the trolling sa thing delivered in spades
Mar 01 00:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	tho i was doing most of the trolling
Mar 01 00:42:47 <BingoBongo>	I've recieved one of your gift certificates. I've got time now though where I am looking at the long troll. Get to the moderator control pnel and make threads disapear like thie twin towers.
Mar 01 00:43:44 <Bowjob>	so how many people got the ten btc trolling price
Mar 01 00:43:51 <Bowjob>	prize
Mar 01 00:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]
Mar 01 00:46:27 *	splnkr sometimes wishes troll wasn't a verb
Mar 01 00:47:17 <splnkr>	i give just enough a damn about the IRC community to actually hang out; can't understand how some see it as the target for misanthropic gratification
Mar 01 00:47:25 <splnkr>	ther are SOOOOOOO many better targets
Mar 01 00:48:12 <BingoBongo>	What's a better target than SA?
Mar 01 00:48:37 <splnkr>	um, media?govt? fortune 500? stodgy educators?
Mar 01 00:48:43 <splnkr>	the list is practially endless
Mar 01 00:49:10 <splnkr>	scuse my spelling at this late hour
Mar 01 00:50:07 <BingoBongo>	Media's too easy. I've done local and regional papers a few too many times. Government trolls itself. I'm a stodgy educator... What targets are left nao?
Mar 01 00:50:32 <splnkr>	check yoself fool
Mar 01 00:50:35 <splnkr>	=)
Mar 01 00:52:13 <BingoBongo>	Ok, checked...
Mar 01 00:53:02 <BingoBongo>	I'm ready to fuck, been ready to fuck, these pants are so tight
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Mar 01 00:56:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 219 @ 0.0065 = 1.4235 BTC [+]
Mar 01 00:56:12 <mod6>	HAHA WAT
Mar 01 00:56:48 <splnkr>	sheesh, sorry i asked
Mar 01 00:57:04 <BingoBongo>	So... What's the deal with that Blockchain.info mixer?
Mar 01 00:57:43 <Namworld>	It mixes
Mar 01 00:58:22 <BingoBongo>	I mean the part where it has been phasing in and out of existence these past couple days.
Mar 01 00:58:45 <Namworld>	oh. No idea.
Mar 01 00:58:47 <BingoBongo>	Is that some bullshit, or  is    that  some     bull         shit?
Mar 01 00:58:58 <Namworld>	both?
Mar 01 01:04:53 <BingoBongo>	I'm kind of wondering, where's the BitBets on the first S.BBET passthrough?
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Mar 01 01:07:46 <Namworld>	Which passthrough was the first one?
Mar 01 01:08:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
Mar 01 01:08:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
Mar 01 01:10:18 <BingoBongo>	I don't know that there is an S.BBET passthrough yet.
Mar 01 01:11:08 <BingoBongo>	You'd think as much as Kumala wants to monetize Virecurex and Crypto::Stocks he would race to set one up.
Mar 01 01:11:30 <Namworld>	There's one I manage and another on BitFunder
Mar 01 01:11:53 <BingoBongo>	Namworld, where's yours at?
Mar 01 01:12:01 <Namworld>	BTCT.co
Mar 01 01:12:15 <Namworld>	I find BitBet overpriced right now tho.
Mar 01 01:12:36 <aiball>	coinbr.com has bbet for sale
Mar 01 01:12:47 <Namworld>	makes 3
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Mar 01 01:13:07 <BingoBongo>	I don't know. I find it a bit underpriced for all the bets I've bought in on that won't realize till the end of the year...
Mar 01 01:14:12 <aiball>	definitely a buy and hold if anything
Mar 01 01:14:41 <BingoBongo>	If you are calling it overpriced Namworld I might finally have to get my shit together and finally register for that MPEX dealio
Mar 01 01:15:30 <Namworld>	I'm calling the shares as a whole overpriced.
Mar 01 01:15:46 <Namworld>	0.002 right now
Mar 01 01:16:21 <Namworld>	200'000 satoshi a pop. 20 000 BTC valuation.
Mar 01 01:16:29 <BingoBongo>	I now, that's thy I think they are qorth quite a bit more. Especially since the initial valuation for the whole enterprise was only 100 BTC.
Mar 01 01:17:17 <Namworld>	They take 1% in fees. Would take 2 million BTC in bets to make a 100% dividend.
Mar 01 01:18:01 <Namworld>	0.002 is 200x initial valuation
Mar 01 01:18:05 <aiball>	has anyone figured out the dividend for bbet this month?  I might take a crack at it but just as likely might wait to see the number
Mar 01 01:18:10 <BingoBongo>	Details, details. There's also the house bets and idiots who bet against any sense.
Mar 01 01:18:23 <Namworld>	I think it was over-buyed at IPO, people panic buying.
Mar 01 01:18:32 <BingoBongo>	The BFL bet is going to throw everything for fruit loops
Mar 01 01:18:40 <Namworld>	now no one buys, no one sells. Almost.
Mar 01 01:19:14 <aiball>	the bets are boring
Mar 01 01:20:12 <BingoBongo>	Right now too many are. There is very little action on most bets.
Mar 01 01:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	well so make some good ones
Mar 01 01:20:44 <aiball>	I'm boring
Mar 01 01:22:26 <aiball>	how about a major us bank will deploy ripple by 2013
Mar 01 01:22:35 <aiball>	fuck,  that's boring too
Mar 01 01:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	ill take the no on that.
Mar 01 01:23:28 <aiball>	I wanted no, but you're on if I can't think of something better in 30 minutes
Mar 01 01:23:43 <aiball>	1 btc, nobody gets hurt
Mar 01 01:24:23 <BingoBongo>	I have tried. A critical user mass is missing
Mar 01 01:24:32 <aiball>	tried what
Mar 01 01:24:34 <aiball>	?
Mar 01 01:24:44 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno about that,
Mar 01 01:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	the april bfl bet is alreayd over 20 btc
Mar 01 01:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	that's a healthy sum of change if you think about it.
Mar 01 01:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	scratch that, it's over 40 btc 0.0
Mar 01 01:25:45 <Bowjob>	how about one for avalon too to make it interesting
Mar 01 01:25:49 <aiball>	because none writing bets reads people magazine.  I'm not going to volunteer, but I think that's what is needed here.
Mar 01 01:26:23 <mircea_popescu>	people magazine ?!
Mar 01 01:26:39 <aiball>	that's what I said.
Mar 01 01:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	i dun get it tho
Mar 01 01:27:27 <aiball>	celebrities and kittens get eyeballls.
Mar 01 01:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	there were a buncha oscars i recall
Mar 01 01:28:14 <aiball>	true
Mar 01 01:28:59 <aiball>	I'm heading over to people.com now.  then I'll hit up oprah's site
Mar 01 01:29:21 <aiball>	eww
Mar 01 01:29:23 <BingoBongo>	Pari seems to  still lack enough market  makers
Mar 01 01:30:30 <aiball>	Is Tom trying to get custody of his daughter?  maybe that's something.  I can't believe I'm thinking of investigating this.
Mar 01 01:30:55 <BingoBongo>	Oh shit
Mar 01 01:34:09 <aiball>	anyone want to take a side on  "Tom gets custody of Suri by the End of April? "
Mar 01 01:34:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 120 @ 0.25512908 = 30.6155 BTC [+]
Mar 01 01:34:18 <Bowjob>	I made a bet for avalon on bitbet. lets get this shit rollin
Mar 01 01:34:26 <mircea_popescu>	who's suri
Mar 01 01:35:01 <mod6>	his daughter
Mar 01 01:35:14 <aiball>	By the way I'm talking about Tom Cruise.  Suri is his daughter.  Tom Cruise just divorced his Wife Katie Holmes
Mar 01 01:36:10 <aiball>	I sending up a 1 btc bet, just giving you insiders a chance to pick a side and I'll take the other.
Mar 01 01:36:41 <aiball>	I think that would be best for Suri and the other children.
Mar 01 01:36:41 <BingoBongo>	I just know bit365.eu won't be around long if they keep paying so much for betting against the Astros and Marlins...
Mar 01 01:37:14 <BingoBongo>	Suri stays with Katie, family law isn't that fucked yet
Mar 01 01:37:40 <aiball>	I guess that means I'm taking yes.
Mar 01 01:38:54 <BingoBongo>	I might throw a bitdime on no if it posts
Mar 01 01:40:29 <aiball>	.1 btc?
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Mar 01 01:41:50 <BingoBongo>	I imagine it would get too lopsided too fast for real money
Mar 01 01:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.725 = 8.625 BTC [-]
Mar 01 01:42:11 <aiball>	I'm asking what is a btcdime
Mar 01 01:42:23 <BingoBongo>	0.1 BTC
Mar 01 01:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 01 01:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	there it is
Mar 01 01:43:24 <Bowjob>	you added more stipulatons?
Mar 01 01:43:25 <Bowjob>	:3
Mar 01 01:43:55 <mircea_popescu>	tried to make it into something
Mar 01 01:44:11 <Bowjob>	thats the one i submitted, right?
Mar 01 01:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Mar 01 01:44:27 <Bowjob>	prototypes lol wtf
Mar 01 01:44:37 <Bowjob>	inclined to vote no as a hedge
Mar 01 01:44:49 <mircea_popescu>	well the jgarzik stuff
Mar 01 01:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo how's lopsided ?
Mar 01 01:46:33 <aiball>	I voted no on avalon
Mar 01 01:46:56 <aiball>	I used .5 btc from Tom's basic refund.
Mar 01 01:47:32 <BingoBongo>	Cruise tends to lose in court
Mar 01 01:50:19 <aiball>	I put it up there,  but didn't take a side by mistake.  I'll take yes as soon as it's approved.  That is unless your comment about court is some way to convince me to take no.
Mar 01 01:50:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00072 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 01:51:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00620001 = 1.86 BTC [-]
Mar 01 01:51:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.00620001 = 1.488 BTC [-]
Mar 01 01:51:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1811 @ 0.0062 = 11.2282 BTC [-]
Mar 01 01:51:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4687 @ 0.00610821 = 28.6292 BTC [-]
Mar 01 01:52:44 <aiball>	why sell s.dice right before the dividend?
Mar 01 01:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.725 BTC [-]
Mar 01 01:53:19 <mircea_popescu>	heh, 10.56 on no
Mar 01 01:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	avalon ppl get no credit around here huh
Mar 01 01:53:51 <aiball>	all from you?
Mar 01 01:53:55 <mircea_popescu>	mnope
Mar 01 01:54:36 <Bowjob>	i wanna put no, but theres no yes
Mar 01 01:54:37 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 01 01:54:40 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 01 01:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im off. gl all
Mar 01 01:54:45 <Bowjob>	night
Mar 01 01:54:54 <aiball>	night
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Mar 01 01:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.725 BTC [-]
Mar 01 01:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.68765432 = 2.063 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 01:59:50 <BingoBongo>	Sorry, Steam's fucking with my keyboard.
Mar 01 02:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21474 @ 0.00075814 = 16.2803 BTC [-]
Mar 01 02:03:27 <BingoBongo>	I wanted games, but not like this
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Mar 01 02:19:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Mar 01 02:25:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 02:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00076 = 7.714 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 03:21:02 <Chaang-Noi>	hey guys, anyone how long it will take a bank to cash a "cashiers check" ?    in the usa that is
Mar 01 03:27:54 <Diablo-D3>	3 business days
Mar 01 03:28:11 <Diablo-D3>	doenst mean the full amount will be available to you, however
Mar 01 03:30:48 <Chaang-Noi>	damn
Mar 01 03:30:51 <Chaang-Noi>	okay bank wire it is
Mar 01 03:31:05 <Diablo-D3>	bank wires take longer
Mar 01 03:31:16 <Chaang-Noi>	how so?
Mar 01 03:31:17 <Diablo-D3>	its 1-3 business days per hop
Mar 01 03:31:24 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 01 03:31:34 <Diablo-D3>	its usually at least 3 hops
Mar 01 03:31:34 <Chaang-Noi>	mailing a check and then trying to enter it into the bank will take longer
Mar 01 03:31:46 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, i doubt that, its us to us
Mar 01 03:31:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 01 03:31:51 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: erm
Mar 01 03:31:51 <Chaang-Noi>	then to thailand:)
Mar 01 03:31:52 <Diablo-D3>	then ACH it
Mar 01 03:32:00 <Diablo-D3>	oh
Mar 01 03:32:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know that number
Mar 01 03:32:23 <Chaang-Noi>	im going to smoke sooo much opium, i love haz btc:)
Mar 01 03:32:23 <Diablo-D3>	also, since you're in thailand
Mar 01 03:32:26 <Diablo-D3>	checks take longer
Mar 01 03:32:38 <Diablo-D3>	banks don't trust foreign checks
Mar 01 03:32:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i was going to have a guy cash the check in my us account
Mar 01 03:32:46 <Chaang-Noi>	in the usa
Mar 01 03:32:50 <Chaang-Noi>	then wire it to me from the usa
Mar 01 03:32:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 30 @ 0.01 = 0.3 BTC [+]
Mar 01 03:33:06 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yeah, which would take awhile
Mar 01 03:33:16 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i have btc in thailand...
Mar 01 03:33:20 <Diablo-D3>	it'd be quicker to use fedex to same day mail the check
Mar 01 03:33:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i need $10,00 what do?
Mar 01 03:33:32 <Diablo-D3>	wire fees will probably be about that much too
Mar 01 03:33:44 <Chaang-Noi>	in thailand they wont take a check
Mar 01 03:33:49 <Chaang-Noi>	id have to fexex cash
Mar 01 03:33:57 <Chaang-Noi>	fed ex cash
Mar 01 03:34:04 <Diablo-D3>	they'd probably take a cashiers check
Mar 01 03:34:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 376 @ 0.00075814 = 0.2851 BTC [-]
Mar 01 03:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5224 @ 0.00075631 = 3.951 BTC [-]
Mar 01 03:35:32 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm, maybe
Mar 01 03:35:49 <Chaang-Noi>	tangable cryptogtaphy only sells to people in the usa however
Mar 01 03:35:54 <Diablo-D3>	btw, do you have an account in the US at HSBC?
Mar 01 03:35:56 <Chaang-Noi>	that might piss them off
Mar 01 03:36:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i do not have a hsbc account
Mar 01 03:36:12 <Diablo-D3>	you really should to be honest
Mar 01 03:36:40 <Diablo-D3>	HSBC is a shitty ugly evil bank, but there is an HSBC branch EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD
Mar 01 03:37:27 <Diablo-D3>	worldwide, they're not the richest bank (citigroup still beats them I believe), but they have the most branches in the most countries
Mar 01 03:38:05 <Diablo-D3>	HSBC US is also a fedwire hub
Mar 01 03:38:15 <Diablo-D3>	so sometimes ACHes only take 2 days
Mar 01 03:38:24 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i mostly do just btc
Mar 01 03:38:30 <Chaang-Noi>	but i want to buy a truck
Mar 01 03:38:36 <Chaang-Noi>	so gold and btc wont cover me this time
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Mar 01 03:42:04 <jurov>	;;later tell BingoBongo https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/S.BBET-PT
Mar 01 03:42:05 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 01 03:44:14 <jurov>	lol, 1055 to 19 that avalon won't deliver this month?
Mar 01 03:51:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought they shipped?
Mar 01 03:51:57 <jurov>	this bet says "ship majority of preorders"
Mar 01 03:53:38 <jurov>	lol if it stays so, i know where i'm hedging iDiff-E 's
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Mar 01 04:04:36 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
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Mar 01 04:26:55 <Enky>	hi
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Mar 01 04:30:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4044 @ 0.00075999 = 3.0734 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 04:46:57 <Zillion>	anyone from bitbet around?
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Mar 01 04:47:59 <Bowjob>	it says my ripple account is offline
Mar 01 04:48:02 <Bowjob>	waht gives
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Mar 01 04:51:13 <Zillion>	anyone else still waiting for payment from bitbet on the BFL March 1st bet? Says it's resolved.  Usually they show right up in my wallet at that point.
Mar 01 04:51:54 <BitHub>	they're probably almost bankrupt after that bet
Mar 01 04:52:03 <Zillion>	lol
Mar 01 04:52:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.687 = 1.374 BTC [-]
Mar 01 04:53:11 <Zillion>	there are a couple nice payouts involved....not mine so much
Mar 01 04:53:28 <Zillion>	a lot for me
Mar 01 04:55:24 <jurov>	Zillion, afaik mircea_popescu does the payouts upon receiving data from bitbet
Mar 01 04:55:31 <jurov>	he'll be around in few hours
Mar 01 04:56:57 <jurov>	interesting, the last No bets have so low weight that they have lost anyway
Mar 01 04:57:32 <mjr__>	hi Jurov
Mar 01 04:57:39 <jurov>	hi
Mar 01 04:57:41 <Zillion>	jurov thanks, np i didn't think he handled it personally....i was more curious at this point if anyone else here knew anything
Mar 01 04:58:03 <mjr__>	any word on S.DICE ?
Mar 01 04:59:17 <jurov>	mjr__ it looks like they'll get roaring drunk on 1st, then next day pay out after sobering up :D
Mar 01 04:59:22 <jurov>	every month
Mar 01 04:59:29 <Bowjob>	imo you shouldnt lose money on bitbet ever if you win
Mar 01 04:59:49 <jurov>	Bowjob : http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ scroll to end
Mar 01 04:59:49 <mjr__>	cool
Mar 01 05:00:10 <mjr__>	cool, was hping i wouldn't have to trim any positions today for fees
Mar 01 05:00:20 <Bowjob>	ywah
Mar 01 05:00:35 <mjr__>	also, the way that it looks on mpex is a little misleading
Mar 01 05:00:50 <mjr__>	there is an entry for 2/1 and then one on 2/2
Mar 01 05:00:54 <Bowjob>	damn.. that bet is fucking amazing
Mar 01 05:00:55 <Bowjob>	250
Mar 01 05:00:57 <Bowjob>	wow.. to 250
Mar 01 05:00:59 <Bowjob>	to 510
Mar 01 05:01:00 <Bowjob>	damn
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Mar 01 05:01:41 <Zillion>	more amazing when ya get paid for winning in it
Mar 01 05:02:54 <mjr__>	also, pretty amazing that the price doesn't seem to move at all in relation to dividends
Mar 01 05:03:10 <Bowjob>	had i known, id put 200 on "no"
Mar 01 05:03:10 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 01 05:03:12 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 01 05:03:45 <Bowjob>	hows this
Mar 01 05:03:45 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
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Mar 01 05:13:01 <Bowjob>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/DiffusionOfInnovation.png
Mar 01 05:13:05 <Bowjob>	Where are we here?
Mar 01 05:13:58 <jurov>	we are just before "crash caused by ineptitude" stage
Mar 01 05:15:36 <jurov>	http://www.whiteboardmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/startup-pain.jpeg?f22064
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Mar 01 05:38:26 <Bowjob>	http://blockchain.info/address/152mAXabBVjB58bASMzZEJzPPU84gEgjZR
Mar 01 05:38:43 <Bowjob>	wtf.. why does it say i have 131 BTC
Mar 01 05:38:47 <Bowjob>	I have way more than that
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Mar 01 05:53:25 <Anduck>	well
Mar 01 05:53:33 <Anduck>	not all your btc is at same address?
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Mar 01 05:59:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 502 @ 0.00196499 = 0.9864 BTC [-]
Mar 01 05:59:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1653 @ 0.001965 = 3.2481 BTC [+]
Mar 01 05:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 845 @ 0.00197 = 1.6647 BTC [+]
Mar 01 06:00:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.00211 = 0.211 BTC [-]
Mar 01 06:00:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 530 @ 0.0021 = 1.113 BTC [-]
Mar 01 06:00:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00201 = 0.0201 BTC [-]
Mar 01 06:01:01 <Bowjob>	thats not the case
Mar 01 06:01:06 <Bowjob>	i checked all my addresses
Mar 01 06:01:11 <Bowjob>	it says i have 157 btc
Mar 01 06:01:13 <Bowjob>	but.. wtf
Mar 01 06:01:19 <Bowjob>	on electru,
Mar 01 06:01:20 <Bowjob>	m
Mar 01 06:01:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2000 @ 0.002 = 4 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 06:03:41 <EskimoBob>	is electrum the one where those huge dat files are kept somewhere else and you only have you wallet?
Mar 01 06:10:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00075632 = 6.8069 BTC [-]
Mar 01 06:10:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00075631 = 3.9706 BTC [-]
Mar 01 06:19:17 <Bowjob>	yeahh
Mar 01 06:19:21 <Bowjob>	u mean blockchain
Mar 01 06:25:26 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/KzY4tPF.jpg
Mar 01 06:25:29 <Bowjob>	I nearly cried
Mar 01 06:27:02 <Bowjob>	Christmas comes early this year. The present we got was the BFL March 1st bet earnings.
Mar 01 06:27:06 <Bowjob>	"Christmas comes early this year. The present we got was the BFL March 1st bet earnings." ahahah
Mar 01 06:27:38 <EskimoBob>	"Bowjob | I nearly cried" -  why?
Mar 01 06:28:45 <Bowjob>	The picture is too beautiful
Mar 01 06:30:50 <Diablo-D3>	hey guys, what was the name of the guy who moved to arizona to start his CPA business?
Mar 01 06:32:51 <Anduck>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Mar 01 06:32:55 <Anduck>	this havent paid out yet =(
Mar 01 06:32:56 <mjr__>	has anyone used bitfinex
Mar 01 06:32:58 <Anduck>	it's been 12 hours
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Mar 01 06:47:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4956 @ 0.00075999 = 3.7665 BTC [+]
Mar 01 06:47:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10132 @ 0.00076 = 7.7003 BTC [+]
Mar 01 06:54:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29150 @ 0.00075631 = 22.0464 BTC [-]
Mar 01 06:55:53 <Zillion>	Anduck are you too waiting to be paid for the BFL March 1st bet?
Mar 01 06:58:31 <Anduck>	yes.
Mar 01 06:58:35 <Anduck>	how much did u win?
Mar 01 06:58:39 <Anduck>	and how much u bet?
Mar 01 06:59:18 <Zillion>	ahhh your here
Mar 01 06:59:50 <Zillion>	Not much but glad to know I am not the only one
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Mar 01 07:02:20 <pigeons>	Diablo-D3: smickles?
Mar 01 07:02:37 <Diablo-D3>	yeah smickles
Mar 01 07:02:46 <pigeons>	he hasn't been around in a month
Mar 01 07:03:02 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
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Mar 01 07:11:01 <fydel>	hi there! is there a specific date when satoshidice will anounce the dividend for feb ?
Mar 01 07:12:14 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 01 07:12:21 <ThickAsThieves>	but i dont know what it is
Mar 01 07:12:43 <Bowjob>	so avalon
Mar 01 07:12:46 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 01 07:14:07 <fydel>	ThickAsThieves: ok..thank you
Mar 01 07:15:28 <Bugpowder>	Today
Mar 01 07:15:42 <Bowjob>	okay now BFL please fuckup please
Mar 01 07:15:57 <Bugpowder>	It may be paid anytime in the next few days
Mar 01 07:16:06 <Bowjob>	you've done well fucking up all this time, just fuck up for 3 more months
Mar 01 07:16:14 <Bowjob>	heck make it an entire year lol
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Mar 01 07:16:51 <Bugpowder>	Well Avalon isn't exactly on time either
Mar 01 07:17:03 <Bowjob>	yeah 1 week vs 4 months
Mar 01 07:17:08 <Bugpowder>	Except for the prototypes the shipped
Mar 01 07:17:18 <pigeons>	fydel: no not specific but within the next few days. http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE "Statements of Profit and Loss for each calendar month will be published by them no later than by the fifth day of the new month."
Mar 01 07:17:22 <Bowjob>	their  shipping date was feb 28, 2013
Mar 01 07:17:27 <Bowjob>	missed it by a week
Mar 01 07:17:38 <Bowjob>	as opposed to months by bfl
Mar 01 07:19:29 <fydel>	pigeons: thank you
Mar 01 07:21:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.724 BTC [-]
Mar 01 07:22:41 <Zillion>	the two products are not comparable
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Mar 01 07:26:07 <pigeons>	cause one doesnt exist
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Mar 01 07:34:07 <pigeons>	interesting to see bitbit profits too
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Mar 01 07:54:36 <ThickAsThieves>	just submitted a couple bet ideas
Mar 01 07:54:40 <ThickAsThieves>	was wondering
Mar 01 07:55:04 <ThickAsThieves>	would it be unacceptable to say "The next winner of Project Runway will be homosexual"?
Mar 01 07:55:08 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
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Mar 01 07:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	well, it may be difficult to check
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Mar 01 07:56:21 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Mar 01 07:56:34 <ThickAsThieves>	so much infiltrating of these peoples lives online probly
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Mar 01 07:57:16 <ThickAsThieves>	i suppose being flamboyant isnt proof...
Mar 01 07:57:20 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Mar 01 07:57:25 <mircea_popescu>	if they say so it's one thing
Mar 01 07:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	if they don't tho...
Mar 01 08:00:45 <pigeons>	pics or gtfo
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Mar 01 08:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	pix of what ? their dilated bunghole ?
Mar 01 08:01:54 <pigeons>	goatse style
Mar 01 08:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 01 08:07:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.00641 = 0.1154 BTC [-]
Mar 01 08:07:17 <Chaang-Noi>	 6-8 watts/G   this is okay for asic?
Mar 01 08:07:39 <Bowjob>	hey mp
Mar 01 08:07:40 <Chaang-Noi>	from here, friedcat updated https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1571278#msg1571278
Mar 01 08:07:44 <Bowjob>	your bet
Mar 01 08:07:46 <Bowjob>	umm
Mar 01 08:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Mar 01 08:08:04 <Bowjob>	what do you mean by majority ships
Mar 01 08:08:17 <Bowjob>	because avalon 2's shipping is april 10th
Mar 01 08:08:35 <mircea_popescu>	jesus fuck these things are impossible aren't they.
Mar 01 08:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	majority of batch 1, not majority of all items they will ever produce
Mar 01 08:08:53 <mircea_popescu>	(and it is your bet!!1)
Mar 01 08:08:53 <Bowjob>	oh
Mar 01 08:08:55 <Bowjob>	okay then
Mar 01 08:08:58 <Bowjob>	Yeah
Mar 01 08:09:02 <Bowjob>	I will bet on Yes :P
Mar 01 08:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	that'll be a first.
Mar 01 08:11:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i wanna complain that he doesnt really give any dates or schedules, but then again, who ever really lives up to those...
Mar 01 08:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	well ya but still, things irl happen on some sort of timescale
Mar 01 08:11:31 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/KzY4tPF.jpg
Mar 01 08:11:35 <ThickAsThieves>	update essentially says "we're working on it, we;ll get better!"
Mar 01 08:11:52 <Bowjob>	"Starting from next Monday, units will be en route to their country of destination and tracking numbers will follow maybe 2~3 days after (it is at this point onward which you can expect an email from us with the tracking information), we expect this process to continue to the 10th of March until all the units have been shipped out, if all is well people will get their units in-hand in the middle of March."
Mar 01 08:12:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i was refering to asicminer
Mar 01 08:13:11 <ThickAsThieves>	nice pic, but we've seen so many boxes of fans
Mar 01 08:14:09 <Bowjob>	this one prints money
Mar 01 08:16:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.685 BTC [-]
Mar 01 08:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob based on that text the bet is pretty relevant
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Mar 01 08:17:46 <Bowjob>	i guess
Mar 01 08:17:57 <Bowjob>	its a matter of shipping..
Mar 01 08:18:18 <Bowjob>	which monday however
Mar 01 08:18:23 <Bowjob>	i havent set the bet yet :P
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Mar 01 08:20:08 <Bowjob>	yifu said christmas came early to them
Mar 01 08:20:20 <Bowjob>	from winning the huge bfl bet
Mar 01 08:20:32 <Bowjob>	i guess they bet either 300+ or the 250 bet
Mar 01 08:20:38 <Bowjob>	prolly the 300+
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Mar 01 08:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	coolness.
Mar 01 08:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	wait, wasn't newyears just last week ?
Mar 01 08:22:22 <Bowjob>	umm month, but he's referring to this years xmas
Mar 01 08:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 01 08:23:29 <ThickAsThieves>	&ticker
Mar 01 08:23:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.08001, Best ask: 34.17002, Bid-ask spread: 0.09001, Last trade: 34.08001, 24 hour volume: 71974.65510805, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 33.23048
Mar 01 08:24:28 <Bowjob>	if this rally continues, I'll be able to afford a nice house at the end of the year
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Mar 01 08:24:44 <Bowjob>	then after that perhaps go back to school..
Mar 01 08:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol cool
Mar 01 08:25:00 <Bowjob>	my priorities are backwards.. usually people go to school first
Mar 01 08:25:04 <Bowjob>	..
Mar 01 08:25:04 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 01 08:28:22 <Zillion>	mircea has the BFL March 1st bet paid out?
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Mar 01 08:29:24 <kakobrekla>	tecnical difficulites
Mar 01 08:29:36 <kakobrekla>	technical*/
Mar 01 08:29:44 <kakobrekla>	fuckin fucked fuck keyboad.
Mar 01 08:29:50 <kakobrekla>	rd
Mar 01 08:29:51 <blu3gr1ffon>	Zillion: I haven't seen my bet in my wallet yet
Mar 01 08:29:59 <Diablo-D3>	spacex is going to launch the dragon again at 10:10AM EST http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html
Mar 01 08:30:01 <blu3gr1ffon>	not sure how long it takes.
Mar 01 08:30:23 <blu3gr1ffon>	if we are talking about the the bitbet.us one.
Mar 01 08:30:30 <mircea_popescu>	Zillion not yet. will be paid out presently.
Mar 01 08:30:56 <blu3gr1ffon>	mircea_popescu: thanks!
Mar 01 08:31:11 <Zillion>	blu3gr1ffon ok thanks just curious...usually they are fast but this one is big
Mar 01 08:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	np np
Mar 01 08:31:55 <Zillion>	cool mircea
Mar 01 08:34:17 <blu3gr1ffon>	anyone getting in on the BTC/USD at Mt.Gox will hit $35 in March 2013 bet?
Mar 01 08:34:55 <mircea_popescu>	im sure some people are
Mar 01 08:36:04 <blu3gr1ffon>	i wonder why not more.
Mar 01 08:36:10 <blu3gr1ffon>	so close already
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Mar 01 08:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya srslty.
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Mar 01 08:39:11 <Bugpowder>	Spacexxxxx
Mar 01 08:39:24 <Bugpowder>	Big day
Mar 01 08:41:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 08:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	"Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-CA) claimed today that "over 170 million jobs" could be lost due to sequestration. "
Mar 01 08:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	why are these people even in congress ?
Mar 01 08:44:01 <mircea_popescu>	they're basically as dumb as reddit.
Mar 01 08:44:29 <ThickAsThieves>	coinlab's Buy $1M buttons are back
Mar 01 08:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	im sure that makes all the difference :D
Mar 01 08:47:23 <splnkr>	maxine waters might say extreme stuff sometimes but she's no fool
Mar 01 08:47:31 <splnkr>	she's among the best Congress has to offer
Mar 01 08:48:16 <splnkr>	she was the one to bring allegations of CIA crack cocaine trafficking to light in DC
Mar 01 08:48:23 <splnkr>	that's a pretty big deal in my book
Mar 01 08:48:48 <mircea_popescu>	splnkr that's my point
Mar 01 08:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	she's among the best congress has to offer and that's what she says
Mar 01 08:48:58 <pigeons>	yawn
Mar 01 08:49:00 <mircea_popescu>	does not compute
Mar 01 08:49:14 <splnkr>	in politics, sometimes you hyperbolize to make a point
Mar 01 08:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons spam detracted
Mar 01 08:49:19 <splnkr>	that's what you do when you're not lying
Mar 01 08:49:21 <pigeons>	spam retracted
Mar 01 08:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	splnkr ya well, here's the deal : if there actually existed 170mn jobs in the us it wouldn't be in the crapper would it
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Mar 01 08:49:49 <splnkr>	sometimes you take an extreme position to reach a better compromise
Mar 01 08:49:53 <splnkr>	it's called negotiation
Mar 01 08:50:17 <splnkr>	but i do see your point in this particular case
Mar 01 08:50:25 <splnkr>	she maybe meant to say 176K
Mar 01 08:50:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.00641 = 12.82 BTC [-]
Mar 01 08:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 01 08:51:08 <splnkr>	however I think a lot of us often react to what people say when they're taking extreme positions for negotiation purposes
Mar 01 08:51:30 <splnkr>	for example an apt. complex i was advising decided to build their own cogen plant because the electricity service was threatening much higher rates
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Mar 01 08:51:44 <splnkr>	well, now the electricity service backpedaled and is offering a continuation at the same rate
Mar 01 08:51:57 <splnkr>	but the apt managers were too dumb to realize they were just bandstanding
Mar 01 08:52:29 <splnkr>	now i wonder how this affects BTC speculation =P
Mar 01 08:52:35 <pigeons>	lieing and misleading sucks. even though lying and misleading is expected of politicians, it still sucks, and because of their position, perhaps sucks more
Mar 01 08:52:58 <splnkr>	well, maybe, or maybe it's that people suck, and force politicians to lie.
Mar 01 08:53:08 <pigeons>	people suck so im forced to kill and steal
Mar 01 08:53:21 <pigeons>	dont blame the poor politicians
Mar 01 08:53:24 <splnkr>	whoa whoa the killing and stealing are another issue altogether
Mar 01 08:53:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 9 @ 0.38 = 3.42 BTC [-]
Mar 01 08:53:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.39 = 1.95 BTC [+]
Mar 01 08:53:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.395 = 1.975 BTC [+]
Mar 01 08:54:24 <splnkr>	look, if you view a type of person as completely inhuman and one-dimensional so you can scapegoat them, you're never going to really understand why they are the way they are
Mar 01 08:54:40 <splnkr>	i had the experience of running for an elected office once and it totally changed my perspective
Mar 01 08:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	<pigeons> lieing and misleading sucks. even though lying and misleading is expected of politicians, it still sucks, and because of their position, perhaps sucks more <<< this. nonspam detected.
Mar 01 08:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	just make your motherfucking point, that's what a congress is for.
Mar 01 08:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	it's not a set of survivor or w/e
Mar 01 08:55:52 <splnkr>	so for example, sometimes what looks like stupidity from the outside is really willful ignorance
Mar 01 08:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	but it's always easier to self aggrandize and hyperbolize than make points
Mar 01 08:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	that's why the internet is so fulla hyperbolae
Mar 01 08:56:51 <splnkr>	well the irony here is that story about maxine waters misquoting a number probably got more exposure than the story about her exposing the CIA-crack connection in the 90's
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Mar 01 08:57:34 <pigeons>	im suprised you lost, you are a politician, now its "misquoting"
Mar 01 08:58:08 <mircea_popescu>	i guess this teaches the importance of not fudging numbers.
Mar 01 08:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	i certainly dislike people that do that more than people that do coke.
Mar 01 08:59:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 700 @ 0.00641 = 4.487 BTC [-]
Mar 01 09:00:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.73 = 3.46 BTC [+]
Mar 01 09:01:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.685 = 1.37 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 09:01:54 <splnkr>	pigeons: i'm not trying to defend politicians, but explain them
Mar 01 09:02:02 <splnkr>	i have less than zero time for their BS
Mar 01 09:02:25 <splnkr>	they are leading the way to 100 years ago
Mar 01 09:02:40 <splnkr>	it's a joke and i don't care to stick around for the punchline
Mar 01 09:03:14 <splnkr>	to be constantly wrapped up in their misdeeds is paralyzing
Mar 01 09:03:22 <splnkr>	i'd rather just ignore and proceed =)
Mar 01 09:04:45 <mircea_popescu>	nice that you found btc then
Mar 01 09:05:30 <splnkr>	yeah i guess if you're going to jump down a rabbit hole it might as well be the one with the most potential to lead somewhere better
Mar 01 09:12:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.63899 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 09:12:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 09:19:19 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu ; I summon thee from da depths.
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Mar 01 09:19:53 <Zillion>	Still no love on that bet here mircea_popescu
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Mar 01 09:21:06 <mircea_popescu>	Zillion dun' worry, it'll be paid before bfl ships :)
Mar 01 09:21:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.63899 = 2.556 BTC [-]
Mar 01 09:21:42 <Zillion>	LOL yeah but I am not the tycoon as you and need my measly coins
Mar 01 09:22:10 <thestringpuller>	BFL did not ship. Confirmed?
Mar 01 09:22:25 <mircea_popescu>	cooonfirmed
Mar 01 09:22:33 <Zillion>	checking one sec
Mar 01 09:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	Zillion srsly, we ran into some sendmany hairs, working at it, it will not be long.
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Mar 01 09:23:13 <Zillion>	np just wanting to be sure no wallet problems is all really
Mar 01 09:23:24 <mircea_popescu>	you can be sure of that.
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Mar 01 09:24:23 <Zillion>	thank ya sir...sorry, patience never been a strong suit for me
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Mar 01 09:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	np np
Mar 01 09:25:24 *	jurov expects trilema article with serious bashing of bitcoind rpc interface :D
Mar 01 09:25:48 <mjr__>	i think it would be awesome if we could lend our shares out on mpex...with an escrow feature of some sort
Mar 01 09:26:56 <Zillion>	why would you do that?
Mar 01 09:27:11 <Zillion>	very new to all this if that is a dumb question
Mar 01 09:27:13 <mjr__>	so others could short
Mar 01 09:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ and why can' you ?!
Mar 01 09:27:31 <mjr__>	and i could have my shares which are just sitting there earn extra income
Mar 01 09:27:34 <ThickAsThieves>	while ive never used btcjam, i like how the integrated using btct assets as collateral
Mar 01 09:27:39 <mjr__>	you COULD, but there is no escrow
Mar 01 09:27:39 <Zillion>	i see what you mean\
Mar 01 09:27:40 <thestringpuller>	jurov: why do you expect that?
Mar 01 09:27:41 <ThickAsThieves>	they*
Mar 01 09:27:49 <mjr__>	risk averse
Mar 01 09:28:03 <jurov>	thestringpuller, cause mp mentioned sendmany hairs
Mar 01 09:28:16 <thestringpuller>	sendmany hairs?
Mar 01 09:28:32 <thestringpuller>	mjr__: smickles is working on something for that purpose I thik
Mar 01 09:28:34 <thestringpuller>	think*
Mar 01 09:29:05 <jurov>	mjr__, shorting is by definition incompatible with simple escrow
Mar 01 09:29:17 <mjr__>	mircea_popescu: I would rather have my shares in a pool for lending with the understanding that the guy has to have assets to back it up. Similar to bitfinex's system
Mar 01 09:30:00 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ you can find an escrow you trust, push to them.
Mar 01 09:30:06 <mjr__>	but instead of BTC or USD, S.DICE and S.MPOE
Mar 01 09:30:11 <mircea_popescu>	unlike the bitfinex system w./e that is, you actually have signed receipts to prove this on mpex.
Mar 01 09:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	what's the impediment ?
Mar 01 09:30:28 <mjr__>	yes true
Mar 01 09:30:52 <mircea_popescu>	im sure any of the pt ops would do this, for instance.
Mar 01 09:30:57 <mircea_popescu>	possibly for a fee tho
Mar 01 09:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol jurov
Mar 01 09:31:50 <jurov>	i understood mjr__ looks for a broker he'll just push the shares to and broker does the legwork
Mar 01 09:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	this may be a decent line of business
Mar 01 09:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	at least it is irl
Mar 01 09:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	locating shortable blocks
Mar 01 09:32:40 <thestringpuller>	jurov you should add a shorting pool
Mar 01 09:32:52 <thestringpuller>	set up some interest rates, you already have one donor :P
Mar 01 09:33:49 <mjr__>	i meant a more automated system, yes Jurov and collects a portion of the interest or fees i generate
Mar 01 09:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	there's no reason it can't be automated, for sure.
Mar 01 09:34:14 <mjr__>	ie. i can just leave my shares in that pool, but i specificy that my term will expire before dividends
Mar 01 09:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	actually iirc topace was working on some automation for crediting pushes to his PT
Mar 01 09:34:33 <mjr__>	even better win, if they win the bet, i can double down
Mar 01 09:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	this probably can be reused
Mar 01 09:34:41 <mjr__>	true
Mar 01 09:35:15 <mjr__>	my whole point is that i want to increase my long position, but i don't want to buy at market, so if people want to sell at market, and then have to cover, i can buy back my own shares
Mar 01 09:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00075632 = 1.6639 BTC [+]
Mar 01 09:36:03 <mjr__>	if they are right and the short position works, i can increase my position for cheaper, if they are wrong, i get my original shares back anyway, and still rely on dividends
Mar 01 09:36:07 <jurov>	i'd prefer to run it closed with fixed interest, without dosclosing when i or someone other shorted and how much.
Mar 01 09:36:43 <mjr__>	exactly, i don't care who they are, i would rather trust mpex or coinbr than an individual person, provided that there is an autoclose out feature and there account is liquid enough to be able to buy back
Mar 01 09:36:46 <jurov>	transparency leads to somilar things like MPBPT investors bitching that i endangered their investment by setting the rate too high, lol
Mar 01 09:36:50 <mjr__>	some risk monitoring system
Mar 01 09:37:15 <jurov>	lmao maybe i can adapt bitcoinica code
Mar 01 09:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol listen
Mar 01 09:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	paying a fixed fee per week makes sense
Mar 01 09:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	0.1% or w/e
Mar 01 09:38:02 <mircea_popescu>	and dividends pass through to original owner
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Mar 01 09:38:54 <jurov>	yes that side is clear... but on the other side, maybe i can lend out to coinbr users where i can force liquidate them (hence bitcoinica reference)
Mar 01 09:39:02 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 01 09:39:28 <pigeons>	i dont mind being force liquidated as long as you give it a cute nickname like "starfished" or "juroved"
Mar 01 09:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, certainly a valid development direction, this.
Mar 01 09:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	juroved works.
Mar 01 09:39:43 <mircea_popescu>	like brejnev'd except worse
Mar 01 09:40:34 <mjr__>	yes exactly, i don't want to rely on trusting them to return shares and be solvent
Mar 01 09:40:53 <mjr__>	if their account approaches insolvency they should get a margin call
Mar 01 09:41:11 <mjr__>	and if it reaches the point where they would be insolvent, they should be autoliquidated
Mar 01 09:41:57 <jurov>	okay, will plan it. but that even increases the risk of orders mismatch... mircea, how far are you with full tracking? did you determine it can be done?
Mar 01 09:42:33 <jurov>	who isn't following this - the "track" feature works basically only on half of transactions
Mar 01 09:44:07 <jurov>	the other half shows digest of other user's order
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Mar 01 09:45:20 <mircea_popescu>	are these connected somehow ?
Mar 01 09:45:40 <Anduckk>	yay
Mar 01 09:45:44 <Anduckk>	bitbet payment recvd
Mar 01 09:45:45 <jurov>	if i mismatch leveraged orders the mess will be bigger
Mar 01 09:45:50 <jurov>	brb
Mar 01 09:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	Zillion there you go.
Mar 01 09:46:28 <mircea_popescu>	sorry for the delay everyone. bitcoind is not yet exactly mature, needs a little expert oiling
Mar 01 09:46:39 <mjr__>	ah, good idea too, if you were to allow me to lend my btc out for margin on people it could work in the same system...but again, need very robust risk controls
Mar 01 09:46:43 <Zillion>	thats a BTC short for me???
Mar 01 09:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	it is ?!
Mar 01 09:47:02 <Zillion>	yes sir
Mar 01 09:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	which line we talking about ?
Mar 01 09:47:57 <Zillion>	weight 37`870
Mar 01 09:48:04 <Zillion>	2 btc
Mar 01 09:48:22 <Zillion>	you sent me 1.99
Mar 01 09:48:44 <Zillion>	1.98876913
Mar 01 09:48:59 <mircea_popescu>	um looking into this
Mar 01 09:49:08 <Zillion>	thank you
Mar 01 09:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	you mean 21-02-13 19:54	No	357	2.00000000	19PN8	1.98876913 	1Bye9 ?
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Mar 01 09:51:25 <Zillion>	holy crap you are so right sir
Mar 01 09:51:37 <Zillion>	how did i screw that up
Mar 01 09:51:40 <Zillion>	sorry man
Mar 01 09:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57549707/fead082c83a0625eb8cc22452b7f213d7be041e29a7d2c203e704b01ec6bb04b
Mar 01 09:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	check that out, 3.5kb tx :D
Mar 01 09:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	Zillion np  np
Mar 01 09:52:16 <Zillion>	nothing like whining just to find out your wrong and last money :)
Mar 01 09:52:32 <mircea_popescu>	gotta be careful with the weights
Mar 01 09:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	becauyse site rtakes 1%
Mar 01 09:52:44 <Zillion>	i was up too late
Mar 01 09:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	so if odds are even and weight under 1k (out of the orig 100k) you may end up -
Mar 01 09:53:06 <Zillion>	i know the deal sir
Mar 01 09:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57549811/c6258eff0639d758015ed5dcdd8a1f1dcf7580ac833d52336b6ec4469f9281b5 and a 2.8kb tx with 0 fees ahaha
Mar 01 09:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	this bitbet stuff is informative.
Mar 01 09:58:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [+]
Mar 01 09:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/the-grid/bitcoin-virtual-currency-legitimacy-online-retailers
Mar 01 10:01:03 <mjr__>	i am curious if you could use blockchain analysis to get an accurate NPV of S.DICE dividends
Mar 01 10:01:24 <mjr__>	at the very least gross profit
Mar 01 10:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	people already do on the forum no ?
Mar 01 10:01:26 <blu3gr1ffon>	Zillion: I got my bitbet return
Mar 01 10:01:32 <mjr__>	haven't seen that yet
Mar 01 10:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	dooglus' stuff, no ?
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Mar 01 10:04:28 <jurov>	maybe the default end weight should be 1000 to account for this
Mar 01 10:04:35 <jurov>	not 1
Mar 01 10:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov what about a bet like http://bitbet.us/bet/2/s-mpoe-will-crash-this-spring/
Mar 01 10:05:08 <mircea_popescu>	that's 100:1. end weight of even 11 makes you money.
Mar 01 10:05:45 <jurov>	mhm
Mar 01 10:10:45 <blu3gr1ffon>	so these bets with, so and so will happen by 4/1/2013, are they over if that something happpens on 3/5/3013?
Mar 01 10:10:54 <blu3gr1ffon>	or do they just sit there until the end to pay out?
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Mar 01 10:16:15 <mjr__>	do you do underwriting mircea?
Mar 01 10:16:24 <mjr__>	at this point i mean
Mar 01 10:16:28 <mjr__>	or do you just list
Mar 01 10:16:54 <mjr__>	i wanna get into the private equity game lol
Mar 01 10:19:02 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Mar 01 10:19:02 <assbot>	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Mar 01 10:19:08 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 01 10:19:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075259 / 0.00076 (207052 shares, 155.83 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069755 / 0.00078 (17890704 shares, 12,479.69 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067287 / 0.00078 (67719739 shares, 45,566.99 BTC)
Mar 01 10:19:21 <ThickAsThieves>	horsemeat found in tacobell
Mar 01 10:19:25 <ThickAsThieves>	heh
Mar 01 10:20:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: how bout this guy?
Mar 01 10:20:07 <Guest31034>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 01 10:20:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.64000000 / 0.65926621 / 0.68950000 (139 shares, 91.63800308 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.65115724 / 0.69400000 (1192 shares, 776.17942766 BTC), 30D: 0.52100000 / 0.66313431 / 0.89000000 (11178 shares, 7412.51528089 BTC)
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Mar 01 10:20:12 <thestringpuller>	http://bitbet.us/bet/153/s-mpoe-will-rise-this-spring/
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Mar 01 10:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	that doesn't seem to get as much love for some reason
Mar 01 10:20:50 <thestringpuller>	it
Mar 01 10:20:52 <pigeons>	i would think horsemeat would cost more than cornfed cow meat
Mar 01 10:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__  i do a mix of both
Mar 01 10:21:00 <thestringpuller>	's too much of a futures bet
Mar 01 10:21:10 <thestringpuller>	June is a far away mr. popescu
Mar 01 10:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	blu3gr1f1on in general they're over
Mar 01 10:21:31 <mircea_popescu>	depends on the exact circumstances tho
Mar 01 10:21:52 <Chaang-Noi>	horse meat is cheap if it comes from a horse no one wants
Mar 01 10:22:00 <thestringpuller>	mircea, how do I find that article you wrote on the bonds
Mar 01 10:22:05 <pigeons>	mmm satoshi's daemon
Mar 01 10:22:51 <Chaang-Noi>	race horses are dog food
Mar 01 10:23:10 <ThickAsThieves>	meateater problems
Mar 01 10:23:36 <pigeons>	not a problem
Mar 01 10:24:07 <ThickAsThieves>	not in any meangingful sense, no it isnt
Mar 01 10:24:18 <ThickAsThieves>	but sure has a lot of people chatting
Mar 01 10:24:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i like horse
Mar 01 10:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller which one ?
Mar 01 10:27:18 <mjr__>	what i don't understand is that they eat horse meat when it's labeled horse
Mar 01 10:27:31 <mjr__>	i really wouldn't care if i found out i ate pork when i thought it was only beef
Mar 01 10:27:39 <mjr__>	big deal
Mar 01 10:27:50 <thestringpuller>	if within a few weeks’ time you find yourself in the position of having to decide whether a few million dollars go to a. free drinks and garter inserts at a number of strip clubs or to b. coinbase “second round of funding”, the correct business decision is certainly a. At least the strippers can actually provide an answer should anyone happen to ask “what the fuck are you doing”. <<< I think many VC's w
Mar 01 10:28:33 <ThickAsThieves>	in the US, mostly the only meat-switching news you hear about is with fish
Mar 01 10:28:37 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I found the one I was looking for.
Mar 01 10:28:43 <ThickAsThieves>	cheap fish being sold as expensive fish in restaurants
Mar 01 10:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	a kk
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Mar 01 10:30:14 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I was looking for http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/ btw
Mar 01 10:30:37 <Anduckk>	mircea_popescu is the string puller!!!
Mar 01 10:30:39 <Anduckk>	now i know everything
Mar 01 10:30:47 <Anduckk>	(btw thats is actually true)
Mar 01 10:31:07 <Anduckk>	gz on ur success
Mar 01 10:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	um wut
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Mar 01 10:34:52 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 344 + 364 + 6074 + -632
Mar 01 10:34:53 <gribble>	6150
Mar 01 10:35:03 <thestringpuller>	MPBOR is in the overall green
Mar 01 10:35:36 <thestringpuller>	nominal green* congrats mr. popescu!
Mar 01 10:36:03 <thestringpuller>	it's like the pirate month never happened...
Mar 01 10:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Mar 01 10:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	cool
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Mar 01 10:43:18 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Feb 28 21:46:00 2013
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Mar 01 10:43:45 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 01 10:43:45 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.25001 U.S. dollars = 26.2693741 Euros
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Mar 01 10:44:23 <Diablo-D3>	fucking xchat
Mar 01 10:44:33 <BitHub>	hey now
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Mar 01 10:44:44 <EskimoBob>	who even reads that shit he writes?
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Mar 01 10:45:53 <mjr__>	so you underwrite and marketmake?
Mar 01 10:47:53 <EskimoBob>	who mjr__ ?
Mar 01 10:48:11 <mjr__>	mircea
Mar 01 10:48:49 <EskimoBob>	pff.. that retard? LOL, he has no idea what those words even mean
Mar 01 10:49:08 <EskimoBob>	you must be new here mjr__ :)
Mar 01 10:50:46 <jcpham>	EskimoBob tell me about the things that make you angry
Mar 01 10:50:59 <EskimoBob>	jcpham: ?
Mar 01 10:51:12 <jcpham>	i figured you were angry about something
Mar 01 10:51:21 <EskimoBob>	why?
Mar 01 10:51:31 <jcpham>	you normally seem angry
Mar 01 10:51:46 <EskimoBob>	really?
Mar 01 10:51:49 <jcpham>	I imagine you having steam coming from your ears
Mar 01 10:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__ to some degree. the way it practically works is mostly by putting min bids in during ipos
Mar 01 10:51:57 <jcpham>	like a cartoon
Mar 01 10:52:00 <EskimoBob>	you have active imagination jcpham
Mar 01 10:52:05 <jcpham>	i really do
Mar 01 10:52:09 <mircea_popescu>	nothing much came of it in the case of bitbet for instance, it took off way
Mar 01 10:55:02 <blu3gr1ffon>	is g.bbet on bitfunder bitbet.us?
Mar 01 10:55:12 <BitHub>	yes
Mar 01 10:55:24 <blu3gr1ffon>	BitHub: danke
Mar 01 10:55:31 <BitHub>	no problem
Mar 01 10:55:46 <topace>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 01 10:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00610821 / 0.00633093 / 0.00637777 (46523 shares, 294.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00572194 / 0.00621997 / 0.00638999 (320933 shares, 1,996.19 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00602873 / 0.007395 (6844333 shares, 41,262.64 BTC)
Mar 01 10:56:12 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 01 10:56:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.64000000 / 0.65926621 / 0.68950000 (139 shares, 91.63800308 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.65115724 / 0.69400000 (1192 shares, 776.17942766 BTC), 30D: 0.52100000 / 0.66313431 / 0.89000000 (11178 shares, 7412.51528089 BTC)
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Mar 01 10:56:59 <BitHub>	blu3gr1ffon - https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.BBET
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Mar 01 10:57:27 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 01 10:57:27 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.49900 U.S. dollars = 26.4603467 Euros
Mar 01 10:57:38 <EskimoBob>	fuuuck.... :)
Mar 01 10:57:58 <EskimoBob>	diff chart looks also crazy
Mar 01 10:58:02 <blu3gr1ffon>	any hope for ziggap?
Mar 01 10:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	who are those ?
Mar 01 10:58:32 <BitHub>	ziggap are on bitfunder as well
Mar 01 10:59:07 <EskimoBob>	what is it?
Mar 01 10:59:09 <blu3gr1ffon>	they are, newly so.  anybody used the service?
Mar 01 10:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	"Anonymous
Mar 01 10:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	I am done using this site. When you place a bet with a professional you want to be paid when the bet has resolved. Not when someone is good and ready to pay you. Mircea Popescu is a no better than any scammer before him."
Mar 01 10:59:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 01 10:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is wrong with people srsly!
Mar 01 10:59:45 <ThickAsThieves>	PAY ME NAO
Mar 01 10:59:56 <BitHub>	yes blue i have
Mar 01 11:00:01 <BitHub>	its a place to buy bitcoins from
Mar 01 11:00:05 <BitHub>	they do a few countries
Mar 01 11:00:20 <EskimoBob>	i stopped reading after " most trusted method for buying BTC"
Mar 01 11:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves ok but i mean... today is still the 1st wtf.
Mar 01 11:00:45 <ThickAsThieves>	for realz
Mar 01 11:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	banks regularly hold payments 2-3 days, what about that.
Mar 01 11:01:29 <blu3gr1ffon>	i guess people expect the perks of bitcoin to apply to bitbet
Mar 01 11:01:32 <ThickAsThieves>	guaranteed that person will bet agai
Mar 01 11:01:33 <ThickAsThieves>	n
Mar 01 11:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	stuff has to be checked, for one, it's not exactly pennies we're dealing here. stuff breaks half the time, as it was indeed the case this time. new code and all that.
Mar 01 11:01:37 <blu3gr1ffon>	he will
Mar 01 11:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	gotta give scammers like mircea_popescu some slack eh.
Mar 01 11:02:11 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yea prolly.
Mar 01 11:02:21 <ThickAsThieves>	he probly had some other bet or debt he needed to fill
Mar 01 11:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	i guess if you sit there and mash the f5 there's little difference between an hour and all eternity
Mar 01 11:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	who knows, maybe bad experiences.
Mar 01 11:03:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.68 = 2.04 BTC [-]
Mar 01 11:03:08 <EskimoBob>	I guess it's just a matter of time when even is loyal sock puppets realize what a sack of shit he really is
Mar 01 11:03:36 <ThickAsThieves>	who's the sack of shit now?
Mar 01 11:03:42 <ThickAsThieves>	ugh why did i ask...
Mar 01 11:05:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.685 = 6.165 BTC [+]
Mar 01 11:05:20 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 01 11:05:20 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.49489 U.S. dollars = 26.4571944 Euros
Mar 01 11:05:24 <ThickAsThieves>	aww you guys didnt like my TV bets?
Mar 01 11:05:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00637776 = 31.8888 BTC [+]
Mar 01 11:07:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 38 @ 0.64500001 = 24.51 BTC [-]
Mar 01 11:07:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.645 = 6.45 BTC [-]
Mar 01 11:07:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.635 = 1.27 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 11:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 01 11:09:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.49501, Best ask: 34.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00499, Last trade: 34.50000, 24 hour volume: 63944.06343327, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 33.24964
Mar 01 11:09:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1689.81 * 33.25
Mar 01 11:09:55 <gribble>	56186.1825
Mar 01 11:10:03 <mircea_popescu>	bitbet is like vegas nao
Mar 01 11:10:40 <ThickAsThieves>	you can get hooker sthere?
Mar 01 11:10:43 <ThickAsThieves>	or what?
Mar 01 11:11:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i see my bet
Mar 01 11:11:19 <ThickAsThieves>	you were this close to a scammer tag
Mar 01 11:11:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i like the Survivor bet better though
Mar 01 11:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	https://blockchain.info/tx/36d2d306bf3798b9e3730239f58095cd7baeea5963cb9bcc736b6aa20b0b90c5?show_adv=true
Mar 01 11:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	15kb tx, no fee
Mar 01 11:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	this is afaik the record
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Mar 01 11:13:18 <ThickAsThieves>	you get the btc-pincher award
Mar 01 11:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	oldest coinbase award moar like it
Mar 01 11:18:29 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 01 11:18:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.60000, Best ask: 34.83988, Bid-ask spread: 0.23988, Last trade: 34.83990, 24 hour volume: 65618.15625339, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.28810
Mar 01 11:18:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 01 11:18:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.60000, Best ask: 34.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 34.83990, 24 hour volume: 65618.15625339, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.28810
Mar 01 11:18:47 <ThickAsThieves>	oops
Mar 01 11:19:03 <ThickAsThieves>	the  ;; is def easier than the & sadly
Mar 01 11:19:09 <Chaang-Noi>	echo:)
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Mar 01 11:24:32 <ThickAsThieves>	Isn't Google Glass already scheduled to ship in 2013?
Mar 01 11:24:52 <ThickAsThieves>	which was accelerated from when they said 2014 last year
Mar 01 11:25:45 <ThickAsThieves>	btw it's called Google Glass
Mar 01 11:25:51 <ThickAsThieves>	not Google Glasses
Mar 01 11:30:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00075999 = 3.04 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 11:31:44 <error4733>	TAKE MY MONEY !!
Mar 01 11:31:51 <error4733>	google glass ftw
Mar 01 11:37:44 <mjr__>	yeah i need google glass
Mar 01 11:37:49 <mjr__>	the new video was awesome
Mar 01 11:37:58 <mjr__>	and i saw a picture of sergey brin on the subway in nyc wearing them
Mar 01 11:38:47 <ThickAsThieves>	from the looks of their promo photos, you have to look pretty hip to own a pair
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Mar 01 11:41:22 <Chaang-Noi>	bulllls on parade!
Mar 01 11:42:20 <mjr__>	strong move
Mar 01 11:42:23 <mjr__>	!!!
Mar 01 11:42:40 <mjr__>	here comes 35
Mar 01 11:43:01 <mjr__>	no one ever went broke taking profits...sell sell sell
Mar 01 11:43:19 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold a bit today
Mar 01 11:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-01/consumer-spending-in-u-s-climbs-even-as-taxes-hurt-incomes.html
Mar 01 11:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	"Consumer spending in the U.S. rose in January even as incomes dropped by the most in 20 years, showing households were weathering the payroll-tax increase by socking away less money in the bank."
Mar 01 11:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	these people were already not saving enough.
Mar 01 11:44:13 <mjr__>	i was saying that as i kept my finger on the buy button, following goldman sach's modus operandi...tell people to do the exact opposite of what you plan on doing, and have them pay you for the "service"
Mar 01 11:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	the vote is in : the us public does not care whether the us ends.
Mar 01 11:44:47 <mjr__>	yes, but it is the system that makes savers into suckers
Mar 01 11:45:16 <mjr__>	i honestly think it may even be a partly subconscious effect whereby without concsciously realizing it, you know that saving is stupid when the value goes down so rapidly
Mar 01 11:45:33 <mjr__>	QE infinity and beyond
Mar 01 11:45:58 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 01 11:46:04 <Chaang-Noi>	mp. america is fucked
Mar 01 11:47:42 <ThickAsThieves>	americans are so ignorant and detached from the political and financial world it isnt funny
Mar 01 11:47:52 <Chaang-Noi>	they have no clue
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Mar 01 11:48:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i can have an intelligent conversation with maybe 5% of the people i come across
Mar 01 11:48:16 <Chaang-Noi>	their parents or grandparents made all the money, now everyone has credit
Mar 01 11:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	actually seeing how the expenditure is in large part houses,
Mar 01 11:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's pretty smart. buy a house today for 100k of debt, wait for obama to make 100k = 1 pizza
Mar 01 11:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	then pay back, get free house.
Mar 01 11:49:06 <mjr__>	i like that plan
Mar 01 11:49:10 <mjr__>	but that is the point
Mar 01 11:49:12 <ThickAsThieves>	they even messed up real estate as investment for the middle and lower class
Mar 01 11:49:13 <mjr__>	debt is good
Mar 01 11:49:14 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves that's not limited to the us you know
Mar 01 11:49:22 <mjr__>	and they want eveeryone in as much debt as possible
Mar 01 11:49:32 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont know really :)
Mar 01 11:49:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i try to be worldly
Mar 01 11:49:43 <ThickAsThieves>	but i know i'm not
Mar 01 11:50:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i follow BBC and some Al Jazeera news
Mar 01 11:50:08 <ThickAsThieves>	but not much more than that
Mar 01 11:50:40 <ThickAsThieves>	and even that is WAY more than most people i know
Mar 01 11:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	i could carry on an intelligent conversation with maybe 5% of the egyptians in either cairo or luxor
Mar 01 11:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	turks in istanbul
Mar 01 11:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	russians in sevastopol
Mar 01 11:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	you name it
Mar 01 11:51:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont really understand why so many people dont want to think for themselves
Mar 01 11:51:23 <ThickAsThieves>	dont
Mar 01 11:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	the jools of twitter :
Mar 01 11:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	@MarkCalabria
Mar 01 11:54:18 <mircea_popescu>	Will be moderating panel here at Cato, March 13. Would a Financial Transaction Tax Affect Financial Market Activity? http://www.cato.org/events
Mar 01 11:54:23 <mircea_popescu>	@MarkCalabria Only in the sense that finance will move to Bitcoin faster.
Mar 01 11:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	@Mircea_Popescu Does the EU transaction tax proposal apply to Bitcoin transactions?
Mar 01 11:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	@MarkCalabria No, Bitcoin is structurally immune to imposed taxation.
Mar 01 11:54:34 <mircea_popescu>	le win.
Mar 01 11:55:36 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Mar 01 11:56:51 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 01 11:56:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.53318, Best ask: 34.79987, Bid-ask spread: 0.26669, Last trade: 34.80000, 24 hour volume: 67402.19246156, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.33373
Mar 01 11:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136209288816.jpg did i mention i love those pants ?
Mar 01 11:59:34 <ThickAsThieves>	is that horse or cow leather?
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Mar 01 12:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	it's prolly mare leather substituted for heifer.
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Mar 01 12:01:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.68499999 BTC [+]
Mar 01 12:01:11 <ThickAsThieves>	scams
Mar 01 12:03:32 <ThickAsThieves>	this coinlab ticker,
Mar 01 12:03:39 <ThickAsThieves>	shows negative time since
Mar 01 12:03:41 <ThickAsThieves>	someitmes
Mar 01 12:03:51 <ThickAsThieves>	they are time travelers
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Mar 01 12:03:59 <ThickAsThieves>	-11s ago
Mar 01 12:04:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00075632 = 5.143 BTC [-]
Mar 01 12:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4927 @ 0.00075542 = 3.722 BTC [-]
Mar 01 12:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5478 @ 0.00075 = 4.1085 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 12:07:57 <ThickAsThieves>	Spiers, responding to a question about whether he regretted Groupon going public with "I feel like the only reason you could be asking me that question is because you think I’m stupid or because you’re trying to see if I’m going to lie to you."
Mar 01 12:08:14 <blu3gr1ffon>	speaking of pants:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l3nCqOWua4
Mar 01 12:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 01 12:08:27 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.fastcompany.com/3006439/where-are-they-now/exclusive-andrew-masons-last-interview-groupon-ceo
Mar 01 12:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	he blew his plural. reasonS.
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Mar 01 12:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	and for the record i totally called this on trilema, when they ipod
Mar 01 12:09:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i had every client asking me about groupon for a while
Mar 01 12:09:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i was like NO
Mar 01 12:09:50 <ThickAsThieves>	are you dumb?!
Mar 01 12:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	investing, heh.
Mar 01 12:13:37 <ThickAsThieves>	oh, i meant as an mktg solution
Mar 01 12:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	"We sat in the dining room at Madera, a Michelin 1-star rated restaurant in the Rosewood, a luxury hotel that’s partly owned by Stanford University."
Mar 01 12:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol 1 star better than no star!
Mar 01 12:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	why do us restaurants suck so bad.
Mar 01 12:14:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i think michelin stars work diff than hotel ratings
Mar 01 12:14:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think you can get 5
Mar 01 12:15:16 <ThickAsThieves>	up to 3
Mar 01 12:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
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Mar 01 12:16:00 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 01 12:16:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.75002, Best ask: 34.81892, Bid-ask spread: 0.06890, Last trade: 34.81895, 24 hour volume: 68172.45866000, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.35396
Mar 01 12:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	He softened a bit. “I think in the first phase of our company, we were a glorified mailing list. We had a completely unintelligent email that we sent out once a day and we had a human sales force that was going around and procuring the deals... "
Mar 01 12:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha o god.
Mar 01 12:16:43 <mircea_popescu>	why don't they say this sort of shit in autumn 2011 ?
Mar 01 12:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	why do they wait for it to be 2013 and everyone be pissed off ?
Mar 01 12:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	this is what so called CEOs should learn from me, seriously. say it dude.
Mar 01 12:17:32 <jcpham>	what is the lesson, i'm listening
Mar 01 12:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	say nigger. tell people to fuck off. say your company sucks and is a glorified mailing list. say whatever the hell is the case.
Mar 01 12:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	no matter how apparently impolite, impolitical, inappropriate or whatever the fuck.
Mar 01 12:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	just say it.
Mar 01 12:17:57 <jcpham>	i'm a big proponent of telling the truth
Mar 01 12:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	truth has nothing to do with it.
Mar 01 12:18:13 <blu3gr1ffon>	if you have shareholders, it is illegal to do anything that would lower the price of your company
Mar 01 12:18:14 <ThickAsThieves>	any company that is largely a sales team sucks
Mar 01 12:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	blu3gr1f1on fuck that.
Mar 01 12:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves coca cola is largely a sales team.
Mar 01 12:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	it can be done, marginally.
Mar 01 12:18:39 <Chaang-Noi>	new ATH
Mar 01 12:18:52 <ThickAsThieves>	exception to prove the rule?
Mar 01 12:18:52 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu believes in falsifying histroy
Mar 01 12:18:56 <thestringpuller>	history*
Mar 01 12:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	i do "?
Mar 01 12:19:30 <thestringpuller>	How much of the full story does anyone person know?
Mar 01 12:19:38 <mircea_popescu>	that's exactly the motherfucking point.
Mar 01 12:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	say it. it doesn't have to be "the truth"
Mar 01 12:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	it just has to be what you see.
Mar 01 12:19:57 <thestringpuller>	Or what you want everyone else to see.
Mar 01 12:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	that only sets you up for the unpleasant situation of this guy
Mar 01 12:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.fastcompany.com/3006439/where-are-they-now/exclusive-andrew-masons-last-interview-groupon-ceo
Mar 01 12:20:21 <jcpham>	sorry i was distracted by imgur and now I'm watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtS2Ikk7A9I
Mar 01 12:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	you're better off ignoring what people want entirely.
Mar 01 12:20:26 <jcpham>	what were we talking about
Mar 01 12:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham buttseks
Mar 01 12:20:46 <jcpham>	i do not like this topic
Mar 01 12:20:53 <thestringpuller>	aha! thats why the bot shorted them. Poor guy.
Mar 01 12:21:52 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 01 12:21:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.81100, Best ask: 34.86999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05899, Last trade: 34.81100, 24 hour volume: 68642.46395107, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.89000, 24 hour vwap: 33.36688
Mar 01 12:22:16 <jcpham>	wtf is a groupon anyways
Mar 01 12:22:26 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: seriously?
Mar 01 12:22:26 <mircea_popescu>	a glorified mailing list. literally.
Mar 01 12:22:30 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no
Mar 01 12:22:31 <jcpham>	didn't they go out of business
Mar 01 12:22:32 <ThickAsThieves>	lol at this video
Mar 01 12:22:34 <Diablo-D3>	its basically a volume discount
Mar 01 12:22:50 <jcpham>	well i do not shop so idgaf
Mar 01 12:22:51 <Diablo-D3>	a lot of people collectively take up a discount
Mar 01 12:22:57 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: not just items, services too
Mar 01 12:23:15 <jcpham>	broup buy coupons
Mar 01 12:23:16 <jcpham>	i get it
Mar 01 12:23:22 <Diablo-D3>	a lot of companies pulled out of groupon and refuses to honor groupon deals because groupon wouldn't set limits and shit
Mar 01 12:23:28 <jcpham>	i see
Mar 01 12:23:36 <Diablo-D3>	group on also had pretty fucked up internal financials
Mar 01 12:23:54 <jcpham>	groupon promotes consumerism
Mar 01 12:24:00 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 which is a polite way of saying they cooked the books for the ipo
Mar 01 12:24:02 <jcpham>	i'm violently anti-consumer
Mar 01 12:24:08 <pigeons>	it has a high carbon footprint
Mar 01 12:24:26 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: basically
Mar 01 12:24:37 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: consumerism isn't bad inherently
Mar 01 12:24:53 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: like, I'll buy mass produced products…. they just have to be high quality ones
Mar 01 12:25:03 <jcpham>	when people band together in facebook hoardes to groupon their rent money?
Mar 01 12:25:04 <Diablo-D3>	like I just bought a $99 9" frying pan
Mar 01 12:25:24 <jcpham>	why the fuck would you pay 100$ for a pan
Mar 01 12:25:33 <Diablo-D3>	its an all copper frying pan with a thin layer of 18/10 stainless steel for the cooking surface
Mar 01 12:25:36 <jcpham>	i barely eat let alone spend money on retarded kitchen goods
Mar 01 12:25:37 <Diablo-D3>	they normally go for $200+
Mar 01 12:25:43 <pigeons>	a good pre-seasoned cast-iron skillet?
Mar 01 12:25:45 <Diablo-D3>	I took advantage of a pricing error
Mar 01 12:25:52 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: a good one of those is $20 =P
Mar 01 12:25:54 <Diablo-D3>	fuck yeah lodge
Mar 01 12:25:55 <jcpham>	pigeons that's a hand me down
Mar 01 12:26:03 <Diablo-D3>	can't beat lodge cast iron
Mar 01 12:26:10 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: its like this
Mar 01 12:26:12 <pigeons>	yeah that's what i have ;>
Mar 01 12:26:13 <jcpham>	grandma hooked us up with the cast iron
Mar 01 12:26:18 <Diablo-D3>	Im going to own one frying pan the rest of my life thats not cast iron
Mar 01 12:26:21 <Diablo-D3>	so why not buy the best?
Mar 01 12:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i have some cast iron stuff. the problem with it is the womenz can barely lift the stuff. some sauces require lifting the pot with one hand while stirring with the other
Mar 01 12:26:47 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, I wouldn't use cast iron for sauces
Mar 01 12:26:49 <jcpham>	i'm just poking at you Diablo-D3, if you want to spend money on copper pans and mine bitcoins on Nvidia
Mar 01 12:26:49 <Diablo-D3>	you use it for meats
Mar 01 12:26:50 <pigeons>	need stronger womerns
Mar 01 12:26:51 <jcpham>	be my guest
Mar 01 12:27:10 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: get a 18/10 stainless pot
Mar 01 12:27:13 <Diablo-D3>	they're light and inexpensive
Mar 01 12:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you fuck 24 inch bicep amazon pikewomen k ?
Mar 01 12:27:23 <Diablo-D3>	you can get one for like $50-75 depending on what size
Mar 01 12:27:33 <jcpham>	;;google pikewoman
Mar 01 12:27:34 <gribble>	Pepper Pike woman driving force behind Arts Summit in Cleveland ...: <http://www.cleveland.com/chagrinsolonsun/index.ssf/2011/05/pepper_pike_woman_driving_forc.html>; Pepper Pike woman overcomes multiple sclerosis and publishes ...: <http://www.cleveland.com/chagrinsolonsun/index.ssf/2011/04/pepper_pike_woman_overcomes_mu.html>; Northern Pike - Woman River Camp: (1 more message)
Mar 01 12:27:34 <Chaang-Noi>	you guys know too much about cooking stuff
Mar 01 12:27:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 01 12:27:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.89769, Best ask: 34.89989, Bid-ask spread: 0.00220, Last trade: 34.89990, 24 hour volume: 68050.93419775, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.89990, 24 hour vwap: 33.36805
Mar 01 12:27:42 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: cooking is a man's art
Mar 01 12:27:42 <pigeons>	not pikewomen, just healthy
Mar 01 12:27:45 <thestringpuller>	to 42
Mar 01 12:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 often enough you make the sauce in the same skillet you cooked the meat for juice economy.
Mar 01 12:28:00 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: it depends on the sauce
Mar 01 12:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00637776 = 0.6378 BTC [+]
Mar 01 12:28:04 <mircea_popescu>	ofcourse
Mar 01 12:28:10 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: like, I don't ike putting tomatoes in a cast iron pan
Mar 01 12:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	no acids.
Mar 01 12:28:17 <Diablo-D3>	or other acidic foods
Mar 01 12:28:29 <Diablo-D3>	but a white sauce or gravy? thats fine
Mar 01 12:28:31 <jcpham>	i can honestly say I'm never experienced the word juice followed by the word economy
Mar 01 12:28:32 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Mar 01 12:28:50 <jcpham>	i think i should take a nap or bleed out or something
Mar 01 12:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham you never lived having to save your juice to satisfy many hungry mouths either.
Mar 01 12:28:54 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: he basically said "gravy without getting another pan dirty"
Mar 01 12:29:00 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: HAH
Mar 01 12:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	good one huh.
Mar 01 12:29:19 <Diablo-D3>	I laughed out loud, Im a bad person. No wait, that other thing, Im awesome.
Mar 01 12:29:35 <jcpham>	i can't wait to drop "juice economy" on someone
Mar 01 12:29:39 <jcpham>	when they least expect it
Mar 01 12:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	then make them pay you bitcoin dust for it.
Mar 01 12:30:02 <Diablo-D3>	but yeah, I wouldn't have paid $200 for this
Mar 01 12:30:06 <Diablo-D3>	infact, I didn't even want to pay $100
Mar 01 12:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	7 bitcoin, who cares.
Mar 01 12:30:11 <Diablo-D3>	I was aiming for the $50s
Mar 01 12:30:16 <Diablo-D3>	but when something like that comes up
Mar 01 12:30:17 <Diablo-D3>	you snag it
Mar 01 12:30:39 <Chaang-Noi>	$100 for a pan?
Mar 01 12:30:46 <Chaang-Noi>	why it is good again?
Mar 01 12:31:04 <Chaang-Noi>	other than not being cast iron?
Mar 01 12:31:14 <mircea_popescu>	copper is good cause very conductive
Mar 01 12:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	medical steel coating cause resistant and healthy
Mar 01 12:31:31 <mircea_popescu>	(unlike teflon and crap)
Mar 01 12:31:54 <Chaang-Noi>	what do they make woks out of?
Mar 01 12:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	bronze i thinl
Mar 01 12:32:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i think i have a few of them
Mar 01 12:32:15 <Diablo-D3>	woks are often cast iron or annonized steel
Mar 01 12:32:16 <Chaang-Noi>	bronze good or bad?
Mar 01 12:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol inb4 new wok selling bitcoin business
Mar 01 12:32:25 <Diablo-D3>	bronze is fine, although you usually don't see it anymore
Mar 01 12:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i think he's in asia neh ?
Mar 01 12:32:39 <Diablo-D3>	stainless steel is the best for the surface though
Mar 01 12:32:56 <Chaang-Noi>	im pretty sure they are mostly steel that we have
Mar 01 12:32:58 <Diablo-D3>	you can get pans that are pure 18/10 stainless, and they're good
Mar 01 12:33:08 <Diablo-D3>	copper bottoms are better
Mar 01 12:33:19 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck, im going to go check.. iv not been in the kitchen for months and im going in to see pots...
Mar 01 12:33:21 <Diablo-D3>	almost pure copper is 1%er kind of shit
Mar 01 12:33:35 <Diablo-D3>	there are pro chefs that don't use shit like this
Mar 01 12:34:56 <Diablo-D3>	Im like this
Mar 01 12:34:59 <Diablo-D3>	Im too poor to buy cheap shit
Mar 01 12:35:04 <Diablo-D3>	nanotube knows what Im talking about
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Mar 01 12:35:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i think the stuff we ahve is mostly steel
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Mar 01 12:36:07 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: 18/10 steel is what a lot of people have
Mar 01 12:36:23 <Chaang-Noi>	why is steel bad again?
Mar 01 12:36:29 <Diablo-D3>	like, commercial grade shit is usually pure 18/10 or aluminum/18/10 bonded
Mar 01 12:36:32 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: its not
Mar 01 12:36:37 <Chaang-Noi>	okay
Mar 01 12:36:38 <Diablo-D3>	the best cooking surface you can get is 18/10 stainless
Mar 01 12:36:46 <Diablo-D3>	its not the best _conductor_ though
Mar 01 12:36:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i see
Mar 01 12:37:03 <Diablo-D3>	thats why a lot of high grade 18/10 stainless pans have a copper layer inside
Mar 01 12:37:29 <Diablo-D3>	the only thing better is as much copper as possible with a thin layer of 18/10 as the cooking surface
Mar 01 12:37:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think im picky enough id notice the differance
Mar 01 12:37:38 <Diablo-D3>	how often do you cook?
Mar 01 12:37:42 <Chaang-Noi>	cook?
Mar 01 12:37:47 <Diablo-D3>	unless you cook every single day and do hardcore shit, you'd never see it
Mar 01 12:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	omfg what is with the difficulty ?!
Mar 01 12:38:02 <mircea_popescu>	am i seeing this right, we're getting a downtrend retarget ?!
Mar 01 12:38:03 <Chaang-Noi>	if i cant go out of have some one cook for me i will eat bread from the bag and beer...
Mar 01 12:38:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: gpis are being powered down
Mar 01 12:38:19 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: its the calm before the storm
Mar 01 12:38:26 <Chaang-Noi>	of = or
Mar 01 12:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	omfg this is insanity
Mar 01 12:38:41 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yeah see, Im rejecting most pre made foods
Mar 01 12:38:48 <Namworld>	I guess a lot of the 25 terahash of GPUs are being removed
Mar 01 12:38:49 <Chaang-Noi>	so do i
Mar 01 12:38:49 <Diablo-D3>	Im doing it Real Man (™) style
Mar 01 12:39:00 <Diablo-D3>	holy shit
Mar 01 12:39:06 <Chaang-Noi>	we grow much of what we eat
Mar 01 12:39:06 <Diablo-D3>	osx can automatically spellcheck that
Mar 01 12:39:28 <Chaang-Noi>	and get local the rest, in the market
Mar 01 12:39:32 <Chaang-Noi>	but i neer cook it
Mar 01 12:39:35 <Chaang-Noi>	never
Mar 01 12:39:58 <Diablo-D3>	huh, why not?
Mar 01 12:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	why not ?
Mar 01 12:40:26 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know, i never have. also spending more than 10 mins trying to get a meal is a waste of time
Mar 01 12:40:36 <Chaang-Noi>	my wife will spend 2 hours on a meal some times... fucking insane
Mar 01 12:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	its an artform
Mar 01 12:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	i hear you say that im thinking "this is like saying spending more than 2 minutes to get laid is a waste of time"
Mar 01 12:41:37 <Chaang-Noi>	who spends more than 2 hours to get laid?
Mar 01 12:41:49 <Chaang-Noi>	you know i live in thailand right?
Mar 01 12:41:54 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think i spent two hours actually cooking yet tho
Mar 01 12:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	i don't mean the part between meeting the girl and getting her naked.
Mar 01 12:42:18 <mircea_popescu>	i mean the part between her being naked and you being done
Mar 01 12:42:18 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, i do BBQ, but i dont really count that as cooking
Mar 01 12:42:22 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: 2 minutes getting laid? wtf, must be an asian thing
Mar 01 12:42:33 <mircea_popescu>	more like rabbit thing
Mar 01 12:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	he prolly does it 49 times on an avg day
Mar 01 12:42:46 <Diablo-D3>	I couldn't get off in 2 minutes if I tried. Infact, I did. Didn't happen.
Mar 01 12:43:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 01 12:43:02 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 17471712.2288 based on data since last change | 4610091.30003 based on data for last three days
Mar 01 12:43:14 <ThickAsThieves>	???
Mar 01 12:43:14 <mircea_popescu>	what the fucking fuck
Mar 01 12:43:16 <mircea_popescu>	are we forked ?!
Mar 01 12:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	we're forked. there's just no way.
Mar 01 12:43:28 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh sex time, yeah i have done over 2 hours before but not for a while.... 30 mins to an hour is fine...
Mar 01 12:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi most cooking takes about the same.
Mar 01 12:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	yest i made shrimp in white sauce with garlic + pasta, took like 25.
Mar 01 12:43:56 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, but sex is so much better than food
Mar 01 12:44:01 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 01 12:44:19 <Chaang-Noi>	if im goig to spend 1 hour doing something its going to be sex, not cooking:)
Mar 01 12:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	well obviously different, but both sensual delights.
Mar 01 12:44:27 <Diablo-D3>	hell, I wouldn't mind doing 8 hours on a meal
Mar 01 12:44:31 <Diablo-D3>	depends entirely what you're doing
Mar 01 12:44:54 <ThickAsThieves>	but really, whats going on with the diff
Mar 01 12:45:05 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Mar 01 12:45:08 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223776 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 2015 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 16 hours, 9 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17471712.2288 | Estimated Percent Change: 300.00477
Mar 01 12:45:24 <thestringpuller>	uh
Mar 01 12:45:34 <thestringpuller>	I'm getting June futures
Mar 01 12:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	wait
Mar 01 12:45:42 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Mar 01 12:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	17 mn ?!
Mar 01 12:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	holy sheit i read that as 1.7mn
Mar 01 12:46:07 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah asics on fire
Mar 01 12:46:09 <Namworld>	not sure we're forked... but looks like someone could do a 50% +
Mar 01 12:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	look at http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ tho
Mar 01 12:46:22 <mircea_popescu>	they have very diff numbers.
Mar 01 12:46:23 <Chaang-Noi>	that would suck, lol
Mar 01 12:46:28 <Namworld>	unless BFL is testing on top of ASICMINER
Mar 01 12:46:38 <thestringpuller>	bot isn't in sync...
Mar 01 12:46:52 <mod6>	yeah, they're showing 3m estimated
Mar 01 12:47:05 <mod6>	much different than the numbers gribble is giving
Mar 01 12:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder wtf.
Mar 01 12:47:17 <ThickAsThieves>	where does gibble pull from
Mar 01 12:47:22 <ThickAsThieves>	r'
Mar 01 12:47:41 <mod6>	even the diff change is saying 914 blocks, and gribble is saying 2015 blocks
Mar 01 12:47:54 <mod6>	err s/914/974
Mar 01 12:47:58 <mircea_popescu>	gribble wins tho, it's about 2k
Mar 01 12:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	retarget was earlier today
Mar 01 12:48:04 <mod6>	yeah, werid
Mar 01 12:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	maybe charts is off
Mar 01 12:48:40 <mod6>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 01 12:48:42 <gribble>	33000.822494620807
Mar 01 12:48:49 <ThickAsThieves>	http://bitcoindifficulty.com/
Mar 01 12:48:53 <Chaang-Noi>	http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
Mar 01 12:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	it's clearly up
Mar 01 12:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	charts is fucked up, must be
Mar 01 12:50:29 <thestringpuller>	is the estimate off?
Mar 01 12:50:42 <thestringpuller>	or is the estimate highest the farther away the next retarget it
Mar 01 12:50:51 <thestringpuller>	I think it's going to go down very quickly
Mar 01 12:50:54 <thestringpuller>	;;estimate
Mar 01 12:50:55 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 17471712.2288 based on data since last change | 4610091.30003 based on data for last three days
Mar 01 12:51:07 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Mar 01 12:51:11 <Chaang-Noi>	wait three days i guess
Mar 01 12:51:14 <ThickAsThieves>	stringpuller wins
Mar 01 12:51:34 <thestringpuller>	good charts Chaang-Noi
Mar 01 12:51:39 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks
Mar 01 12:51:44 <Chaang-Noi>	that is what i use
Mar 01 12:51:48 <Chaang-Noi>	not mine btw
Mar 01 12:52:14 <mircea_popescu>	sipa is wuile
Mar 01 12:52:48 <thestringpuller>	wuile? wut dat meen?
Mar 01 12:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	Pieter Wuille aka sipa, https://github.com/sipa
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Mar 01 13:04:33 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bc,stats
Mar 01 13:04:35 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223778 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 2013 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12559483.346 | Estimated Percent Change: 187.54212
Mar 01 13:04:45 <Chaang-Noi>	12M now
Mar 01 13:14:12 <blu3gr1ffon>	who runs bitbet.us?
Mar 01 13:14:23 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu does
Mar 01 13:14:26 *	kakobrekla hides
Mar 01 13:14:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 01 13:14:48 <blu3gr1ffon>	cool, you made me .7btc mr. mircea_popescu
Mar 01 13:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	watch me get a cake for doing such a good job
Mar 01 13:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha win
Mar 01 13:14:56 <kakobrekla>	FUUUU
Mar 01 13:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	lmao totally.
Mar 01 13:15:28 <Namworld>	oh, bitbet report is in?
Mar 01 13:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	soonish
Mar 01 13:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	just as soon as im done cooking the motherfucking books
Mar 01 13:15:57 <mircea_popescu>	who knew accounting is this hard ;/
Mar 01 13:16:45 <Namworld>	It's more of being a PITA than being hard.
Mar 01 13:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	yes exactly.
Mar 01 13:17:09 <ThickAsThieves>	"This is not the apocalypse. It's just dumb," Mr. Obama told reporters
Mar 01 13:17:15 <ThickAsThieves>	re: sequester
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Mar 01 13:17:42 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: What is the basis for your difficulty prediction?
Mar 01 13:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	whioch one ?
Mar 01 13:17:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 8 @ 0.03401 = 0.2721 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 13:18:32 <Bugpowder>	"Bitcoin next difficulty looks like 17mn, a 300%ish increase. Possibly largest gap since the very early days."
Mar 01 13:19:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 01 13:19:30 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 5830327.65884 based on data since last change | 4610091.30003 based on data for last three days
Mar 01 13:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	it was the early estimate.
Mar 01 13:20:34 <Bugpowder>	that was like 15 minutes ago though
Mar 01 13:21:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074307 = 3.7154 BTC [-]
Mar 01 13:21:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00074306 = 4.867 BTC [-]
Mar 01 13:21:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00074306 = 0.9288 BTC [-]
Mar 01 13:22:06 <ThickAsThieves>	it will change in 15 more minutes too
Mar 01 13:25:55 <mircea_popescu>	yes, early on estimates are noisy
Mar 01 13:26:51 <mod6>	i just got an email from my bank...they'd like me to donate some food to them.
Mar 01 13:27:04 <mod6>	o_O
Mar 01 13:27:25 <kakobrekla>	"people guarding the safes are hungry, f1"
Mar 01 13:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	mkay, first version of cooked books. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-february-2013-statement/
Mar 01 13:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	now let's see if we can get this shit past the auditors
Mar 01 13:28:54 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla what say you ?
Mar 01 13:29:39 <kakobrekla>	lemme see here
Mar 01 13:33:06 <imsaguy>	There's really not much to cook
Mar 01 13:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy i gave up the weird cash-basis monstrosity i was doing last month
Mar 01 13:33:45 <mircea_popescu>	because if i kept up with it the report would have been literally uninteligible
Mar 01 13:33:48 <imsaguy>	just hire smickles already
Mar 01 13:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	much lighter version now
Mar 01 13:33:53 <mircea_popescu>	he's pregnant
Mar 01 13:34:06 <imsaguy>	jesus?
Mar 01 13:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	jesus had the flu
Mar 01 13:34:33 <imsaguy>	oh, I thought jesus was coming again
Mar 01 13:37:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 01 13:38:14 <blu3gr1ffon>	that's why smickles is pregnant
Mar 01 13:44:10 <jcpham>	http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-01-27/1233029874506.jpg
Mar 01 13:46:43 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 01 13:46:44 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 36 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Mar 01 13:46:49 <thestringpuller>	smickles is super afk
Mar 01 13:47:01 <thestringpuller>	^ imsaguy
Mar 01 13:48:48 <jcpham>	i bet smickles killed someone
Mar 01 13:48:54 <jcpham>	and he's just laying low
Mar 01 13:49:24 <jcpham>	he's 182% gangster to the core, that smickles
Mar 01 13:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/678-march-magic-month.html#post10143
Mar 01 13:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda funnay.
Mar 01 13:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	the person that i'm pretending to be pretending to be or somesuch found it for me. imagine, a girl actually read bfl forums!
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Mar 01 13:54:12 <[\\\]>	heh
Mar 01 13:54:13 *	jcpham is now known as FonziSource
Mar 01 13:54:33 <jurov>	bitbet referrals need whole addy or firstbits are okay?
Mar 01 13:54:36 <[\\\]>	I'm gonna make a bunch of claims, but then turn around and make a disclaimer that the claims could be false
Mar 01 13:55:00 <kakobrekla>	whole addy
Mar 01 13:55:13 <[\\\]>	He's too busy to do his own research but not too busy to make the initial claim
Mar 01 13:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	moreover... he disclaims whether bitbet is in fact owned by me or not
Mar 01 13:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	but he knows for a fact i'm a sad panda
Mar 01 13:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	because you see, there's some girl that keeps beating up on him on the interwebs
Mar 01 13:55:50 <mircea_popescu>	totally legit.
Mar 01 13:56:49 <[\\\]>	"one more day, I promise"
Mar 01 13:56:54 <[\\\]>	cross my heart, hope to die.
Mar 01 13:57:00 <[\\\]>	ok fine, I hope you die.
Mar 01 13:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;google one more day
Mar 01 13:57:08 <gribble>	Spider-Man: One More Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_One_More_Day>; One More Day by Diamond Rio - The Last Time - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UWx-shGM0g>; One More Day Lyrics - Diamond Rio: <http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/diamond+rio/one+more+day_20039940.html>
Mar 01 13:57:20 <mircea_popescu>	wss this cheezy 90s song
Mar 01 13:57:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00611 = 0.0917 BTC [-]
Mar 01 13:57:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0061 BTC [-]
Mar 01 13:57:31 <[\\\]>	I'll take your word for it, panda.
Mar 01 13:57:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00609 = 0.609 BTC [-]
Mar 01 13:57:50 <[\\\]>	oh wait, inaba said you're a liar
Mar 01 13:57:54 <[\\\]>	and mommy said I can't talk to liars.
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Mar 01 13:58:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.7 = 10.2 BTC [-]
Mar 01 13:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	ya except after mpoe-pr walked all over his face on btctalk he has to say it in blfcloset
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Mar 01 13:59:56 <[\\\]>	its easier to make up the rules in your own sandbox
Mar 01 14:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	"This person seams pretty sure of him self to bet so much money that we wont be seeing
Mar 01 14:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	A shipment before march, this has me a little worried."
Mar 01 14:01:01 <mircea_popescu>	very cute tho.
Mar 01 14:01:37 <[\\\]>	are there april bets yet?
Mar 01 14:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah there's one like 60 btc
Mar 01 14:02:26 <[\\\]>	how about may or june?
Mar 01 14:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	not yet those.
Mar 01 14:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 01 14:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	avalon too
Mar 01 14:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 01 14:02:48 <[\\\]>	I wouldn't take the avalon
Mar 01 14:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	10:13 and 24:33 respectvely
Mar 01 14:03:33 <mircea_popescu>	apparently ppl think avalon has more of a shot ?!
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Mar 01 14:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	in any case this makes me realise, bet arbitraging is now possible. yes one no the other or we
Mar 01 14:03:49 <[\\\]>	avalon has at least proven a device
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Mar 01 14:03:55 <[\\\]>	even if not shipping en masse
Mar 01 14:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	that is a point.
Mar 01 14:04:11 <[\\\]>	what did kanoi hack on?
Mar 01 14:04:33 <[\\\]>	they shipped him to bfl to develop software, but what did he test with?
Mar 01 14:04:35 <FonziSource>	the avalon is not the quality i would expect
Mar 01 14:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't he on asicminers ?
Mar 01 14:04:43 <FonziSource>	but i would certainly rock the hashes
Mar 01 14:05:07 <pigeons>	damint fonzi, pick a nick
Mar 01 14:05:08 <[\\\]>	FonziSource: I'd expect there to be revisions between what Jeff got and what everyone else will receive
Mar 01 14:05:19 <FonziSource>	for avalon? yeah
Mar 01 14:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Mar 01 14:05:26 <FonziSource>	maybe a more poished product
Mar 01 14:05:41 <FonziSource>	I've read about the bugs and such
Mar 01 14:06:00 <mircea_popescu>	my guess would be thatm ost actual units would struggle to reach the prototype performance
Mar 01 14:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	it's the chinese way after all. soviet import.
Mar 01 14:06:11 <FonziSource>	but if the only bug is that it hangs every so x
Mar 01 14:06:21 <[\\\]>	that's not a bug
Mar 01 14:06:22 <FonziSource>	i'd reboot it prior to x and have a coke and a smile too
Mar 01 14:06:23 <[\\\]>	thats a feature
Mar 01 14:06:41 <[\\\]>	the windows miners still like to freak out after 5 days
Mar 01 14:06:45 <[\\\]>	so its not much different
Mar 01 14:06:50 <[\\\]>	schedule the reboot and be done
Mar 01 14:06:52 <FonziSource>	mine is rock-steady mostly yo
Mar 01 14:07:00 <FonziSource>	i just have the one
Mar 01 14:07:04 <[\\\]>	it is a bug in cgminer
Mar 01 14:07:07 <[\\\]>	don't tell them that tho
Mar 01 14:07:10 <[\\\]>	they'll blame windows
Mar 01 14:07:14 <FonziSource>	but I've got a cgminer running now since november on linux
Mar 01 14:07:17 <FonziSource>	non-stop
Mar 01 14:07:24 <[\\\]>	but basically, there were a few versions of cgminer that run for weeks
Mar 01 14:07:28 <[\\\]>	the new versions don't anymore
Mar 01 14:07:33 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 01 14:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	upgrade!
Mar 01 14:07:38 <[\\\]>	there's a leak somewhere :D
Mar 01 14:08:04 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: the whole stratum thing is forcing upgrades
Mar 01 14:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so
Mar 01 14:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	from what i gather the stratum is kinda unavoidable tho
Mar 01 14:08:25 <FonziSource>	cgminer version 2.4.0 - Started: [November 29, 2012, 12:47 pm]    Rig: leviathan
Mar 01 14:08:25 <FonziSource>	(avg): 1040.85 Mh/s |  Q:1714540  A:1896580  R:19689  HW:0  U:14.31/m  ST:2258  DW:414493  NB:15431  LW:4265417  GF:292  RF:658
Mar 01 14:08:30 <FonziSource>	killing it
Mar 01 14:09:00 <pigeons>	no you can avoid if if you use Luke-Jr's bfgnet
Mar 01 14:09:07 <pigeons>	what's it called Luke-Jr
Mar 01 14:09:12 <FonziSource>	GBT
Mar 01 14:09:15 <FonziSource>	iirc
Mar 01 14:09:22 <FonziSource>	or is that a street drug
Mar 01 14:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	big fag net ?
Mar 01 14:10:04 <imsaguy>	great big tatas
Mar 01 14:10:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/41/network-difficulty-under-3-75-million/
Mar 01 14:10:44 <mircea_popescu>	oddly enough this is almost even money.
Mar 01 14:10:50 <Luke-Jr>	pigeons: I don't maintain BFGMiner old versions very long either
Mar 01 14:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,diff
Mar 01 14:10:53 <gribble>	4367876.0008422
Mar 01 14:10:56 <FonziSource>	;;bc,stats
Mar 01 14:10:58 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223785 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 2006 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 18 hours, 38 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 5112621.65753 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.05052
Mar 01 14:11:05 <Luke-Jr>	thought [\\\] should know better, and use it since it's got less bugs :P
Mar 01 14:11:06 <FonziSource>	20 percent yesterday
Mar 01 14:11:22 <FonziSource>	so how much did the diff increase
Mar 01 14:11:26 <pigeons>	doesnt eligius support another overlay protocol in addition to stratum as an alternative?
Mar 01 14:11:28 <FonziSource>	the last estimate i saw was 20%
Mar 01 14:11:37 <Luke-Jr>	pigeons: Eligius supports standard GBT of course
Mar 01 14:11:45 <pigeons>	that's what i was looking for
Mar 01 14:11:55 <pigeons>	the name of gbt as an alternative to stratum
Mar 01 14:12:05 <pigeons>	gay bisexual lesbian,
Mar 01 14:12:12 <pigeons>	err transgender
Mar 01 14:12:17 <FonziSource>	gay bisexual thespian
Mar 01 14:12:25 <Diablo-D3>	oh my~
Mar 01 14:12:31 <pigeons>	gbt miner
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Mar 01 14:12:36 <pigeons>	bitpride.com
Mar 01 14:12:43 <mircea_popescu>	gluttonous belching thracian why not
Mar 01 14:12:45 <FonziSource>	definitely bitpride
Mar 01 14:14:22 <pigeons>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0023
Mar 01 14:14:35 <mircea_popescu>	ackageShell provides an environment for software packages to run in.
Mar 01 14:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	from bitpride.com
Mar 01 14:15:00 <pigeons>	chef don't judge
Mar 01 14:15:39 <topace>	has sdice dividend been announced yet ?
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Mar 01 14:18:52 <kakobrekla>	wtf is this free money here
Mar 01 14:18:53 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/41/network-difficulty-under-3-75-million/
Mar 01 14:19:03 <kakobrekla>	i mean, was.
Mar 01 14:19:09 <kakobrekla>	silly ppl.
Mar 01 14:20:04 <kakobrekla>	ah i see im late to the party, was this was already beaten moments ago
Mar 01 14:20:12 <kakobrekla>	nevermind me
Mar 01 14:20:48 <midnightmagic>	gbt is really an unfortunate name.
Mar 01 14:21:45 <midnightmagic>	Hey wasn't there a bet that Josh (from BFL) did about BFL delivery times not that long ago?
Mar 01 14:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0007499 = 3.7495 BTC [+]
Mar 01 14:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5262 @ 0.00074991 = 3.946 BTC [+]
Mar 01 14:22:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075999 = 3.8 BTC [+]
Mar 01 14:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21238 @ 0.00076 = 16.1409 BTC [+]
Mar 01 14:23:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Mar 01 14:24:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00610824 = 0.6108 BTC [-]
Mar 01 14:24:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00610823 = 5.4974 BTC [-]
Mar 01 14:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla especially as bet was made after the new diff lol
Mar 01 14:26:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 138 @ 0.006 = 0.828 BTC [-]
Mar 01 14:27:49 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 01 14:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic if you mean the bitbet thing it closed recently.
Mar 01 14:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	topace not yet
Mar 01 14:29:59 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: It was pretty big wasn't it?
Mar 01 14:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	1.6k
Mar 01 14:29:59 <Bugpowder>	13.33k
Mar 01 14:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Mar 01 14:30:04 <midnightmagic>	jesus, 1.7k.
Mar 01 14:34:51 <topace>	mircea_popescu: doh i was hoping it would come today so i coud not work this weekend :p
Mar 01 14:34:51 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Oh, does the site not escrow bets?
Mar 01 14:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	topace possibly might
Mar 01 14:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic the site itself is the escrow.
Mar 01 14:34:51 <jurov>	kakobrekla, that 3-75-million bet wasn't very visible. i remember myself thinking about it, but then it scrolled down into oblivion
Mar 01 14:34:51 <kakobrekla>	myeah
Mar 01 14:34:51 <kakobrekla>	bbl gotta go
Mar 01 14:34:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
Mar 01 14:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	i guess after this march 1st bfl will stand for butteryfly lols
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Mar 01 14:37:58 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/
Mar 01 14:37:58 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Feb 28 21:46:01 2013
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Mar 01 14:39:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]
Mar 01 14:39:19 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: What the hell is that last comment bitching at you then..?! When one bets, they actually send BTC to the site right? Who mediates ambiguous bets?
Mar 01 14:39:41 <mircea_popescu>	tghe site. which last comment ?
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Mar 01 14:40:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-]
Mar 01 14:40:28 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Scroll way down to the "I am done using this site."
Mar 01 14:41:22 <midnightmagic>	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
Mar 01 14:41:22 <mircea_popescu>	o o. yeah, i dunno. person got bored or w/e
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Mar 01 14:41:22 <mircea_popescu>	if you grep the log there was some wtfing about it earlier
Mar 01 14:41:22 <mircea_popescu>	"The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) has filed Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security, in response to a failure by the agency to release any documents pertaining to the “Emergency Wireless Protocols,” (Standard Operating Procedure 303 or “SOP 303″)."
Mar 01 14:41:37 <mircea_popescu>	the lol is strong with this one. this sop 303 thing is supposedly the procedure of how to turn off internets.
Mar 01 14:41:45 <mircea_popescu>	im sure it exists. especially if called "standard".
Mar 01 14:42:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.006 = 0.03 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 14:42:48 <midnightmagic>	Doesn't SOP usually imply something that's done all the time?
Mar 01 14:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	in real world or in obamaworld ?
Mar 01 14:42:50 <midnightmagic>	Uh.
Mar 01 14:43:02 <midnightmagic>	Real world I guess!
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Mar 01 14:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	then yes.
Mar 01 14:43:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 14:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	in obamaworld things that were never done and can't in principle be done apparently qualify.
Mar 01 14:44:25 <midnightmagic>	Lame.
Mar 01 14:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	don't worry, he's creating jobs too
Mar 01 14:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	that's prolly sop 69
Mar 01 14:44:25 <midnightmagic>	gobble gobble
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Mar 01 14:44:26 <midnightmagic>	Holy fuck I make good coffee..
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Mar 01 14:45:43 <jurov>	There will be legal action resulting in injuction against or outright ban of sale of Google Glasses (or equivalent Google product) country-wide or state-wide in any country or US state, effective before 1st January 2014. Cited reason may be privacy concerns, patent violation or anything other.
Mar 01 14:45:43 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Seriously man. I make fucking awesome coffee.
Mar 01 14:45:43 <jurov>	is such bet preliminary acceptable?
Mar 01 14:46:10 <jurov>	kakobrekla ^^^
Mar 01 14:47:10 <midnightmagic>	jurov: Hey.
Mar 01 14:47:42 <midnightmagic>	jurov: Guess what.
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Mar 01 14:49:03 <jurov>	what? they're already banned somewhere?
Mar 01 14:49:03 <midnightmagic>	jurov: No. I make awesome coffee.
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Mar 01 14:50:19 <jurov>	midnightmagic enjoy. i'll keep gulping here this instant shit with stevia.
Mar 01 14:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic wd.
Mar 01 14:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i think so
Mar 01 14:55:02 <jurov>	well it's too broad scope... maybe they'll get banned in baluchistan and we won't know it
Mar 01 14:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	you said us state neh ?
Mar 01 14:55:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 299 @ 0.01 = 2.99 BTC [+]
Mar 01 14:55:03 <jurov>	i said us state or anywhere else
Mar 01 14:55:03 <jurov>	maybe limit it to US state or EU country
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Mar 01 14:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	o yeah
Mar 01 14:57:34 <jurov>	submitted. we'll see.
Mar 01 14:58:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7 = 3.4 BTC [-]
Mar 01 15:03:52 <jurov>	;;ticker
Mar 01 15:04:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.48000, Best ask: 34.50999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 34.48001, 24 hour volume: 61642.33337937, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 33.38684
Mar 01 15:04:37 <jurov>	34.9 ftw
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Mar 01 15:15:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6835 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 15:22:25 <mircea_popescu>	we're breaking 35 arent we
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Mar 01 15:26:02 <SudsyForce>	http://i.imgur.com/81Jun1Q.jpg
Mar 01 15:26:03 <SudsyForce>	sfw
Mar 01 15:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	only have one weapon = moustache ?
Mar 01 15:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_rage_(law) also, lol.
Mar 01 15:29:17 <SudsyForce>	written, produced, and directed by Chris Robinson
Mar 01 15:29:24 <SudsyForce>	I wonder is Chris is angry
Mar 01 15:29:38 <SudsyForce>	;;google chris robinson black rage
Mar 01 15:29:39 <gribble>	Black Rage (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rage_(film)>; Amazon.com: Black Rage [VHS]: Chris Robinson, Ted Cassidy ...: <http://www.amazon.com/Black-Rage-VHS-Chris-Robinson/dp/B00005IBN8>; Charcoal Black (1972) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079969/>
Mar 01 15:30:09 <SudsyForce>	Two slave brothers, one black, one an albino, discover a treasure map which is taken from them by their foreman. They take it back but are pursued by the foreman. Originally, the foreman seeks the aid of two bounty hunters who pursue the protagonists throughout the film. At the end, both the foreman and the bounty hunters catch up with the two escaped slaves, and the foreman has a change of heart, helping to kill the bounty hunters.
Mar 01 15:33:24 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 01 15:33:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075292 / 0.00076 (264833 shares, 199.40 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069845 / 0.00078 (17743462 shares, 12,393.01 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067298 / 0.00078 (67591125 shares, 45,487.52 BTC)
Mar 01 15:34:08 <thestringpuller>	mpex has almost his 0.0008 BTC
Mar 01 15:34:24 <mircea_popescu>	SudsyForce course irl it works more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Ferguson_(convict)
Mar 01 15:34:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2241 @ 0.006 = 13.446 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 15:57:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4710 @ 0.00075142 = 3.5392 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 15:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	https://blockchain.info/hub-nodes
Mar 01 15:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	the us gets a honorable 4th position.
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Mar 01 16:11:57 <fydel>	MR mircea_popescu: Is there a way to see the exact trade volumes of the mpex stocks? The graphs on mpex.com are nice but I would like to have more infos, Sir.
Mar 01 16:13:32 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoin-assets.com/mpex-socket/
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Mar 01 16:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	fydel well, there's the stuff in http://mpex.co/faq.html#11
Mar 01 16:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 01 16:19:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0007147 / 0.0007529 / 0.00076 (269543 shares, 202.94 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069867 / 0.00078 (17683122 shares, 12,354.72 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067298 / 0.00078 (67573650 shares, 45,476.39 BTC)
Mar 01 16:19:29 <mircea_popescu>	the 30 day volume comes from the json there for instance
Mar 01 16:19:43 <fydel>	mircea_popescu: thank you, sir
Mar 01 16:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	yw
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Mar 01 16:26:18 <fydel>	kakobrekla: thank you,,this looks nice
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Mar 01 16:45:51 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 01 16:45:51 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Mar 01 16:55:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 45 @ 0.35 = 15.75 BTC [+]
Mar 01 16:56:44 <assbot>	 brb
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Mar 01 17:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [TEST] [PAID] 1.23456789 BTC to 1`000`000 shares, 0.00000123BTC per share
Mar 01 17:01:07 <kakobrekla>	aw fuck it went here
Mar 01 17:01:12 <kakobrekla>	a well fuck it then
Mar 01 17:01:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 15 @ 0.2999 = 4.4985 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 17:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 01 17:04:26 <thestringpuller>	;;estimate
Mar 01 17:04:27 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4920122.48034 based on data since last change | 4642001.13651 based on data for last three days
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Mar 01 17:04:36 <thestringpuller>	there wr go more accurate data
Mar 01 17:05:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 38 @ 0.2999 = 11.3962 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 17:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 2.72083959 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 0.00000054 BTC per share
Mar 01 17:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	that seems to work.
Mar 01 17:11:49 <mircea_popescu>	tho it'd prolly be a good idea if per share div was quoted in satoshi
Mar 01 17:12:59 <kakobrekla>	ok sure
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Mar 01 17:13:51 <kakobrekla>	done
Mar 01 17:14:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WZOAlyVJY98/TSZt835TmwI/AAAAAAAARwU/CX-qqFCUmJ0/s1600/IMG_1178.JPG
Mar 01 17:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	isn't she grinning suspiciously.
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Mar 01 17:24:26 <SudsyForce>	in other news I'm having difficulty reconciling this: http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/technical/optical_illusion.html
Mar 01 17:24:33 <SudsyForce>	i may have to take an internet break
Mar 01 17:30:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [-]
Mar 01 17:32:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 17:41:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.6805 = 4.083 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 17:44:55 <mjr_>	whats up :)
Mar 01 17:45:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 17:49:25 <mjr_>	mpex website is down?
Mar 01 17:49:42 <mjr_>	or is it me?
Mar 01 17:50:21 <kakobrekla>	works here
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Mar 01 17:58:20 <Bugpowder>	hey dudes, got a little troubleshooting question
Mar 01 17:58:25 <Bugpowder>	anyone game?
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Mar 01 17:59:01 <kakobrekla>	game what?
Mar 01 17:59:11 <Bugpowder>	importing a cold wallet.dat into my main bitcoin-qt client
Mar 01 17:59:17 <Bugpowder>	and no balance shows up
Mar 01 17:59:28 <Bugpowder>	despite it showing the right addresss
Mar 01 17:59:41 <Bugpowder>	and being fully synced with network
Mar 01 17:59:43 <kakobrekla>	did you try that rescan option
Mar 01 17:59:51 <Bugpowder>	and blockchain shows it in there
Mar 01 17:59:52 <Bugpowder>	no
Mar 01 17:59:56 <Bugpowder>	did not rescan
Mar 01 18:00:03 <Bugpowder>	Will that redownload the blockchain?
Mar 01 18:00:11 <kakobrekla>	no
Mar 01 18:00:22 <kakobrekla>	-rescan Rescan the block chain for missing wallet transactions
Mar 01 18:00:37 <Bugpowder>	could it potentially damage my hot wallet?
Mar 01 18:00:48 <Diablo-D3>	I really should beat Ukto with a cluebat
Mar 01 18:01:07 <kakobrekla>	well bitcoin can potentially do preetymuch anything including with stabbing you in the face
Mar 01 18:01:10 <kakobrekla>	make a copy
Mar 01 18:01:34 <kakobrekla>	bitcoind*
Mar 01 18:01:41 <Bugpowder>	yes I have a copy
Mar 01 18:01:47 <Bugpowder>	multiple copies
Mar 01 18:01:48 <kakobrekla>	well not to worry then
Mar 01 18:01:52 <Bugpowder>	OK.
Mar 01 18:01:55 <kakobrekla>	close it, run it with -rescan
Mar 01 18:02:00 <kakobrekla>	it will take a while
Mar 01 18:02:00 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 01 18:02:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.82300, Best ask: 34.84999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02699, Last trade: 34.82300, 24 hour volume: 37832.17788346, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.18692
Mar 01 18:02:11 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 01 18:02:12 <Bugpowder>	I am trying to move my main stash into cold storage, just testing how it works now
Mar 01 18:02:17 <Bugpowder>	thanks for the input
Mar 01 18:02:27 <kakobrekla>	k
Mar 01 18:02:35 <Bowjob>	bug, had you been so stubborn you woulda been crushed by your puts
Mar 01 18:03:00 <Bugpowder>	yes I know
Mar 01 18:03:04 <Bugpowder>	that is why I exited them
Mar 01 18:03:12 <Bugpowder>	at the bottom of the 24hr dip
Mar 01 18:03:22 <Bugpowder>	this market is too damn strong
Mar 01 18:03:26 <Bugpowder>	trend is your friend
Mar 01 18:03:41 <Bugpowder>	not that I'm complaining
Mar 01 18:08:40 <Bowjob>	eh
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Mar 01 18:09:08 <Bowjob>	I'm looking at private islands for a near future purchase.. i wonder which one's the best value for buck
Mar 01 18:09:16 <Bowjob>	:)
Mar 01 18:11:03 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3 ?
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Mar 01 18:11:04 <Ukto>	what now ?
Mar 01 18:11:10 <Bugpowder>	excellent. Thanks kakobrekla
Mar 01 18:11:32 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: you don't accept bitcoins directly
Mar 01 18:11:46 <Ukto>	hopefully in the next 30 days
Mar 01 18:12:09 <Ukto>	new stuff will be in effect
Mar 01 18:12:12 <Ukto>	that will make your head spins
Mar 01 18:12:14 <Ukto>	and it wont matter
Mar 01 18:12:21 <Ukto>	spin
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Mar 01 18:14:21 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: mpex dossed again?
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Mar 01 18:19:47 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/277/bitbet-haxxed-in-2013/
Mar 01 18:19:48 <Bowjob>	wtff
Mar 01 18:20:31 <Bowjob>	nvm
Mar 01 18:24:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00075557 = 9.8224 BTC [+]
Mar 01 18:26:12 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Mar 01 18:27:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006389 = 0.6389 BTC [+]
Mar 01 18:29:04 <Bugpowder>	now we wait for the weekend dip...
Mar 01 18:29:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.00072 = 0.018 BTC [-]
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Mar 01 18:29:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 925 @ 0.00073 = 0.6753 BTC [+]
Mar 01 18:29:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Mar 01 18:30:10 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148212.new;boardseen#new
Mar 01 18:30:11 <Bowjob>	O:
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Mar 01 18:31:10 <Bowjob>	"Lessons learned. Batch #2 process will have improvements, minor design adjustments and other goodies."
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Mar 01 18:31:51 <Bugpowder>	O_o
Mar 01 18:31:57 <Bugpowder>	damn son
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Mar 01 18:32:07 <Bugpowder>	that is like $15,000 down the tubes
Mar 01 18:32:09 <Bowjob>	theres more avalons than we discovered
Mar 01 18:32:24 <Bowjob>	but why did both fuck up at the exact same time?
Mar 01 18:33:40 <Bugpowder>	he stacked them on top of each other
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Mar 01 18:33:48 <Bugpowder>	or there is a faulty batch
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Mar 01 18:34:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6795 = 3.3975 BTC [-]
Mar 01 18:34:18 <Bowjob>	hopefull batch two will resolve that
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Mar 01 18:34:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.006389 = 0.0703 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 18:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB is it ?
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Mar 01 18:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob that avalon bet adjustment seems prescient in retrospect huh
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Mar 01 18:40:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.68 = 23.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 18:57:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 1000 @ 0.11319853 = 113.1985 BTC [-]
Mar 01 19:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075999 = 3.8 BTC [+]
Mar 01 19:02:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00076 = 7.372 BTC [+]
Mar 01 19:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	"Sir, they are two avalon located in different rooms. No one touch them because they are all working well last night before I went to sleep."
Mar 01 19:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	o this poor guy
Mar 01 19:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	has the distinct sound of ruined family hopes and aspirations to it.
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Mar 01 19:24:34 <jurov>	if anyone desperately needs to place orders, mpex.coinbr.com still works
Mar 01 19:24:43 <jurov>	at leat stat does
Mar 01 19:25:01 <Bowjob>	im withholding my bet.. im uncertain'
Mar 01 19:25:01 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 01 19:25:12 <Bowjob>	I already bet $1500 on avalon anyyway
Mar 01 19:26:13 <jurov>	mircea_popescu , no comment? it's ddos?
Mar 01 19:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	what is ?!
Mar 01 19:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	site's fine ?
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Mar 01 19:26:43 <jurov>	i can't access mpex.co .. times out
Mar 01 19:26:50 <jurov>	only via proxy
Mar 01 19:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	tehn you may have a dns issue locally
Mar 01 19:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	but the site is on the web.
Mar 01 19:27:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.685 = 8.22 BTC [+]
Mar 01 19:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mpex.co
Mar 01 19:27:25 <mircea_popescu>	and it never was down today either.
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Mar 01 19:28:00 <jurov>	wtf is this
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Mar 01 19:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	interesting, are you going through the same hub as fabian ?
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Mar 01 19:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 1000 @ 0.11319853 = 113.1985 BTC [-]
Mar 01 19:29:12 <mod6>	i havent had any problems
Mar 01 19:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	besides, it trades
Mar 01 19:29:49 <jurov>	traaaceroute gets this: http://bitbin.it/Malhw4h3
Mar 01 19:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news, pinkhouse : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134290700472.jpg
Mar 01 19:30:15 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB are you also going through the same node as jurov http://bitbin.it/Malhw4h3 ?
Mar 01 19:30:32 <kakobrekla>	does this pinkhouse have a street address?
Mar 01 19:30:56 <kakobrekla>	has*
Mar 01 19:31:02 <kakobrekla>	fuckin iliteral
Mar 01 19:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla only for the initiated
Mar 01 19:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it looks like atlas.cogentco is having issues and perhaps dropping packets
Mar 01 19:33:01 <jurov>	good you have put the proxies in place, i just switched
Mar 01 19:33:43 <kakobrekla>	well hmm
Mar 01 19:33:48 <kakobrekla>	im initiated in various stuffs
Mar 01 19:33:52 <jurov>	interesting that from my bitvps from zurich it works
Mar 01 19:35:46 <Bowjob>	basically theres more avalons in the wild than we previously thought
Mar 01 19:35:55 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Mar 01 19:35:57 <Bowjob>	so.. 298/300 avalons work
Mar 01 19:36:38 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148212.new;boardseen#new
Mar 01 19:36:49 <Bowjob>	One thing that bothers me.. 2 of them shut off at the exact same time
Mar 01 19:37:01 <Bowjob>	was it on his end?
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Mar 01 19:40:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.685 = 1.37 BTC [+]
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Mar 01 19:58:57 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell Bugpowder
Mar 01 19:58:57 <gribble>	(later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
Mar 01 19:59:01 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell Bugpowder http://gizmodo.com/5987639/scientists-wire-two-rats-brains-together-and-share-a-thought-across-the-internet
Mar 01 19:59:02 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 01 19:59:20 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 298/300
Mar 01 19:59:20 <gribble>	0.993333333333
Mar 01 19:59:40 <thestringpuller>	99% of all Avalon's work, seems like a good job. A+ no?
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Mar 01 20:03:55 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 01 20:03:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.27669, Best ask: 34.58835, Bid-ask spread: 0.31166, Last trade: 34.27626, 24 hour volume: 41270.19696629, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.26412
Mar 01 20:04:06 <Bowjob>	only 34.27?
Mar 01 20:04:08 <Bowjob>	crash!!!
Mar 01 20:04:25 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 10000
Mar 01 20:04:27 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 333181.4110 USD and would take the last price down to 32.5000 USD, resulting in an average price of 33.3181 USD/BTC.
Mar 01 20:04:31 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 100000
Mar 01 20:04:33 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2800852.7112 USD and would take the last price down to 19.5000 USD, resulting in an average price of 28.0085 USD/BTC.
Mar 01 20:04:55 <thestringpuller>	;;market buy 100000
Mar 01 20:04:57 <gribble>	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 71717.994 bitcoins, for a total of 16174263427823.8477 USD and take the price to 13370133701337.0000.
Mar 01 20:05:01 <thestringpuller>	;;market buy 1000
Mar 01 20:05:04 <gribble>	A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 34837.9787 USD and would take the last price up to 34.9100 USD, resulting in an average price of 34.8380 USD/BTC.
Mar 01 20:05:07 <thestringpuller>	;;market buy 10000
Mar 01 20:05:08 <gribble>	A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 352432.4425 USD and would take the last price up to 35.9775 USD, resulting in an average price of 35.2432 USD/BTC.
Mar 01 20:05:57 <thestringpuller>	We very well may soon see how many bitcoins have actually been lost...
Mar 01 20:06:19 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 1000000
Mar 01 20:06:21 <gribble>	A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 4530174.0465 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 4.5302 USD/BTC.
Mar 01 20:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/all-thatll-do-is-drive-financiers-to-bitcoin/
Mar 01 20:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	jurov pretty nifty system after all huh.
Mar 01 20:10:10 <jurov>	<thestringpuller> 99% of all Avalon's work, seems like a good job. A+ no?  <<<sauce?
Mar 01 20:10:49 *	You are now known as asciilifeform
Mar 01 20:11:21 <thestringpuller>	sauce?
Mar 01 20:11:26 <thestringpuller>	wut dat meen?
Mar 01 20:11:45 <jurov>	where are all the other 98% ?
Mar 01 20:12:59 <jurov>	in other news, coinbr unanimously voted to pay me bonuses
Mar 01 20:13:11 <jurov>	few trillions satoshis
Mar 01 20:13:22 <jurov>	untaxed
Mar 01 20:14:10 <jurov>	thestringpuller oh you just made fun, i see
Mar 01 20:14:19 *	jurov hides
Mar 01 20:14:59 <Bowjob>	i want to see 1 satoshi 1 cent
Mar 01 20:15:00 <Bowjob>	:3
Mar 01 20:16:40 <kakobrekla>	i will sell you a satoshi for 1 cent
Mar 01 20:16:47 <kakobrekla>	and you can have it.
Mar 01 20:17:19 <Bowjob>	:/
Mar 01 20:17:27 <kakobrekla>	what?
Mar 01 20:17:34 <kakobrekla>	isnt that what you said you wanted?
Mar 01 20:17:42 <Bowjob>	yeah totally
Mar 01 20:18:06 <jurov>	i can buy the satoshi for 1.5 cents
Mar 01 20:18:22 <jurov>	and we'll push the tx to assbot thus making them official
Mar 01 20:18:55 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 01 20:19:10 <Bowjob>	does paypal even allow 1 cent txs
Mar 01 20:19:32 <kakobrekla>	what is paypal?
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Mar 01 20:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	paypal is this amazon scamcoin
Mar 01 20:20:35 <thestringpuller>	ebay scamcoin*
Mar 01 20:20:47 <thestringpuller>	ebay owns paypal :P
Mar 01 20:20:56 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is going senile it seems.
Mar 01 20:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	a distinction without a difference.
Mar 01 20:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00637772 = 0.6378 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00637773 = 1.9133 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:21:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00637775 = 6.3778 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:21:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4900 @ 0.00637776 = 31.251 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:22:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 24700 @ 0.00637777 = 157.5309 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:22:15 <jurov>	nice
Mar 01 20:22:19 <jurov>	you remember the story about detergent becoming..er..money?
Mar 01 20:22:32 <jurov>	i think that was least scammy money ever
Mar 01 20:22:47 <jurov>	and oh so liquid
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Mar 01 20:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00637777 = 1.2756 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:26:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00075557 = 10.8802 BTC [-]
Mar 01 20:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00075142 = 7.4391 BTC [-]
Mar 01 20:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 01 20:29:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 750 @ 0.14253227 = 106.8992 BTC [-]
Mar 01 20:30:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.6675 = 10.0125 BTC [-]
Mar 01 20:30:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.667 = 2.001 BTC [-]
Mar 01 20:30:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 38 @ 0.645 = 24.51 BTC [-]
Mar 01 20:30:31 <jurov>	pity that beercoin didn't catch up
Mar 01 20:30:45 <kakobrekla>	you have like a million of those?
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Mar 01 20:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 01 20:31:45 <jurov>	i was given some
Mar 01 20:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/277/bitbet-haxxed-in-2013/
Mar 01 20:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	1000:1!
Mar 01 20:32:29 <kakobrekla>	is not gonna happen pft
Mar 01 20:33:42 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla is russian
Mar 01 20:33:49 <mircea_popescu>	he's turkish
Mar 01 20:33:56 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 01 20:33:58 <jurov>	azerbaijan
Mar 01 20:34:13 <thestringpuller>	a distinction without a difference << this
Mar 01 20:34:41 <jurov>	named nationals would mightily disagree
Mar 01 20:35:08 <thestringpuller>	mircea said it not me
Mar 01 20:35:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 01 20:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	there's plenty of diff between turks and russians.
Mar 01 20:35:31 <jurov>	and thestringpusher is from burkina faso
Mar 01 20:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	turks fuck their wives in the ass. russians beat them up.
Mar 01 20:35:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00639 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	granted it's painful either way, but still.
Mar 01 20:36:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00639 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:38:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.006388 = 0.0128 BTC [-]
Mar 01 20:38:21 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 33 / (-0.25512908+1)
Mar 01 20:38:21 <gribble>	44.3029780247
Mar 01 20:38:43 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 33 / (-0.13944319+1)
Mar 01 20:38:43 <gribble>	38.3472649528
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Mar 01 20:38:59 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 33 / (-0.17529893+1)
Mar 01 20:38:59 <gribble>	40.0144988293
Mar 01 20:39:58 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 35 / (-0.22035473+1)
Mar 01 20:39:58 <gribble>	44.8922110436
Mar 01 20:40:32 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 37 / (-0.18423278+1)
Mar 01 20:40:32 <gribble>	45.3560759649
Mar 01 20:41:06 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 31 / (-0.27963952+1)
Mar 01 20:41:06 <gribble>	43.0340098613
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Mar 01 20:44:39 <Bugpowder>	Stunt science.
Mar 01 20:44:49 <thestringpuller>	Stunt science?
Mar 01 20:44:58 <Bugpowder>	Nicolelis is a genius of stunts
Mar 01 20:45:09 <thestringpuller>	stunt as in the gangsta phrase? Like
Mar 01 20:45:09 <Bugpowder>	I was tempted
Mar 01 20:45:16 <thestringpuller>	"nigga you be stuntin"
Mar 01 20:45:18 <Bugpowder>	To propose that expt
Mar 01 20:45:33 <Bugpowder>	He is tight with Lula
Mar 01 20:45:45 <Bugpowder>	Here is the criticism
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Mar 01 20:46:00 <Bugpowder>	We learn nothing from that experiment
Mar 01 20:46:11 <Bugpowder>	It's just a cool demo
Mar 01 20:46:38 <Bugpowder>	But it is a pretty cool demo
Mar 01 20:47:31 <Bugpowder>	I proposed that expt to a postdoc in his lab and he was like... Yah I'm not supposed to say anything but we already have done that
Mar 01 20:47:42 <Bugpowder>	6. Months ago
Mar 01 20:48:29 <Bugpowder>	Nicolelis has a great sense for sexy science
Mar 01 20:48:48 <thestringpuller>	Dr. Bugpowder
Mar 01 20:49:10 <Bugpowder>	For b
Mar 01 20:49:20 <Bugpowder>	For now...
Mar 01 20:49:27 <Bugpowder>	Soon to be prof
Mar 01 20:49:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 98 @ 0.006388 = 0.626 BTC [-]
Mar 01 20:49:46 <thestringpuller>	Professor Bugpowder, you should take bribes from your students in BTC.
Mar 01 20:49:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1120 @ 0.006389 = 7.1557 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:49:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00639 = 0.639 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:49:50 <thestringpuller>	or S.DICE stock
Mar 01 20:49:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4731 @ 0.00639 = 30.2311 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:49:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2241 @ 0.0064 = 14.3424 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:49:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6659 @ 0.00641 = 42.6842 BTC [+]
Mar 01 20:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 750 @ 0.23606086 = 177.0456 BTC [-]
Mar 01 20:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	puts capitulation ?
Mar 01 20:52:30 <Bugpowder>	I would never
Mar 01 20:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha so basically avalon 1st april delivery bet is about to overtake bfl 1st april delivery.
Mar 01 20:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	talk about collapse into irrelevance.
Mar 01 20:54:12 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 01 20:54:20 <Bowjob>	dont i get anything for that bet
Mar 01 20:54:21 <Bowjob>	?
Mar 01 20:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	you put it in ?
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Mar 01 20:54:35 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 01 20:54:42 <Bowjob>	i didnt take a side however
Mar 01 20:54:47 <mircea_popescu>	then yes, when it settles. your addy should be on one of the inputs
Mar 01 20:54:52 <mircea_popescu>	you automatically get the lower house bet.
Mar 01 20:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	go check
Mar 01 20:55:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/274/bernard-hopkins-vs-tavoris-cloud-hopkins-to-win/
Mar 01 20:55:09 <mircea_popescu>	like 100 btc ? who's hopkins even
Mar 01 20:56:03 <Bugpowder>	Bernard??
Mar 01 20:56:40 <Bugpowder>	Is he retired
Mar 01 20:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	seems not
Mar 01 20:57:36 <Bugpowder>	Like 5 years ago
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Mar 01 21:05:44 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 01 21:05:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.02125, Best ask: 34.02600, Bid-ask spread: 0.00475, Last trade: 34.02124, 24 hour volume: 43518.84638286, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.27453
Mar 01 21:05:56 <Bowjob>	$34.02.. crash!
Mar 01 21:06:02 <mod6>	here comes some coins!
Mar 01 21:06:45 <Bowjob>	mhm, its weekend
Mar 01 21:06:54 <Bowjob>	oh yeah, weekend dip. nothing to worry about
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Mar 01 21:13:23 <Bowjob>	i wanna sell my avalon batch 2 as a collectors item someday
Mar 01 21:13:44 <Bugpowder>	Fucking 10000 BTC wall
Mar 01 21:13:56 <Bowjob>	might fetch quite a price at sotheby's
Mar 01 21:14:00 <Bugpowder>	Hory weekend dump
Mar 01 21:14:28 <Bugpowder>	Logging into mtgox
Mar 01 21:14:52 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 01 21:14:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.37000, Best ask: 33.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 33.40000, 24 hour volume: 46971.71104167, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.23265
Mar 01 21:15:01 <Bowjob>	the bears are attacking
Mar 01 21:15:16 <Bowjob>	brb, dumping. see you at single digits
Mar 01 21:15:38 <Bugpowder>	Massive ask wall at 33.50
Mar 01 21:16:03 <kakobrekla>	u scared much?
Mar 01 21:16:15 <kakobrekla>	infidels
Mar 01 21:16:29 <Bugpowder>	Nah
Mar 01 21:16:32 <Bugpowder>	Just need to
Mar 01 21:16:38 <Bugpowder>	Position my buy orders
Mar 01 21:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	bots need to get repositioned
Mar 01 21:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	"161 arrested in Saudi Arabia protest over detentions, including 15 women and 6 children"
Mar 01 21:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... they have more reason to protest now
Mar 01 21:18:02 <Bowjob>	saudi people are very good at beheading
Mar 01 21:18:06 <Bowjob>	way better than the mexicans
Mar 01 21:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	ya well... they failed to protect irak,
Mar 01 21:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	then fgailed to protect lybia
Mar 01 21:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	syria is pretty much lost
Mar 01 21:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	so now it's their turn.
Mar 01 21:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	the old jewish story about "when they finally came for me there was no one else around"
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Mar 01 21:20:45 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stat
Mar 01 21:20:46 <gribble>	Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
Mar 01 21:20:49 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 01 21:20:52 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223830 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1961 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 17 hours, 36 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4843098.93958 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.87995
Mar 01 21:23:16 <Bugpowder_>	the economist cover on Syria was cool
Mar 01 21:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	it ain't gonna happen.
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Mar 01 21:39:01 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 01 21:39:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.71000, Best ask: 33.89879, Bid-ask spread: 0.18879, Last trade: 33.89879, 24 hour volume: 60515.34646797, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.09078
Mar 01 21:39:15 <Bowjob>	dat spread
Mar 01 21:39:25 <mod6>	wow
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Mar 01 21:39:58 <mod6>	someone's back'in up the truck
Mar 01 21:41:46 <maximian>	well, that dump was absorbed easily
Mar 01 21:41:56 <maximian>	this perma-rally is crazy
Mar 01 21:43:20 <mod6>	shorts have been getting crushed
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Mar 01 21:44:39 <kakobrekla>	http://i.imgur.com/KzY4tPF.jpg
Mar 01 21:44:42 <kakobrekla>	not too shabby
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Mar 01 21:46:39 <mod6>	dang kakobrekla
Mar 01 21:47:21 <kakobrekla>	not mine, but i wouldnt mind.
Mar 01 21:47:50 <mod6>	srsly
Mar 01 21:47:59 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 01 21:48:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.02502, Best ask: 34.13582, Bid-ask spread: 0.11080, Last trade: 34.13583, 24 hour volume: 62126.92918597, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.08840
Mar 01 21:48:07 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 1500/34
Mar 01 21:48:08 <gribble>	44.1176470588
Mar 01 21:48:13 <kakobrekla>	44 btc
Mar 01 21:48:31 <kakobrekla>	each
Mar 01 21:49:04 <mod6>	wow.
Mar 01 21:49:22 <kakobrekla>	cheap
Mar 01 21:49:39 <kakobrekla>	you need to find 2 blocks and you are even
Mar 01 21:51:26 <mod6>	gtfo you don't have any of those lol
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Mar 01 21:52:21 <mod6>	if I push you 44BTC you'll send?
Mar 01 21:52:31 <kakobrekla>	03:47.20 ( kakobrekla ) not mine, but i wouldnt mind.
Mar 01 21:52:39 <mod6>	yah. aight hahaha
Mar 01 21:52:47 <mod6>	im like dude, i want one!!!
Mar 01 21:53:23 <mod6>	you probably would have scammed me for 2
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Mar 01 21:53:27 <mod6>	ass
Mar 01 21:53:38 <mod6>	*ahem*
Mar 01 21:53:48 <mod6>	not you FabianB_, scammar kakobrekla
Mar 01 21:53:56 <mod6>	:P
Mar 01 21:54:23 <mod6>	tryin to pull the ole "i got asic's!!!" one on mod6
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Mar 01 21:54:31 <kakobrekla>	nah
Mar 01 21:54:34 <mod6>	hahaa
Mar 01 21:54:36 <kakobrekla>	but i wouldnt sell em
Mar 01 21:54:39 <kakobrekla>	even if i had em
Mar 01 21:54:52 <mod6>	im sayin!
Mar 01 21:55:10 <kakobrekla>	bbl
Mar 01 21:55:23 <mod6>	ok.
Mar 01 21:55:55 <Bugpowder>	Wall got bot?!
Mar 01 21:56:21 <mod6>	well, then I saw another like 10000 show up on the ask side.
Mar 01 21:56:42 <mod6>	but yeah, the first 10000 did!
Mar 01 21:56:45 <mod6>	it was fast
Mar 01 21:58:07 <mod6>	lets see what gribble says
Mar 01 21:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	dub http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/dazed-and-confused/
Mar 01 21:58:37 <mod6>	;;asks 33
Mar 01 21:58:39 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 33.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
Mar 01 21:58:55 <mod6>	;;asks 35
Mar 01 21:58:57 <gribble>	There are currently 5933.3105 bitcoins offered at or under 35.0 USD, worth 206963.560478 USD in total.
Mar 01 21:59:03 <mod6>	oh hmm.
Mar 01 21:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 01 21:59:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.69391, Best ask: 33.84351, Bid-ask spread: 0.14960, Last trade: 33.84351, 24 hour volume: 62235.33867428, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.08873
Mar 01 21:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	the calls are gonna make bank.
Mar 01 22:00:08 <mod6>	yeah, i think my clark moody was screwed up
Mar 01 22:03:18 <mod6>	i wish kako had those asics
Mar 01 22:03:55 <mod6>	one of those guys from the other night was like, "LETS GET TWO!!" heh
Mar 01 22:10:34 <mod6>	they're something of a unicorn methinks
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Mar 01 22:17:16 <BingoBongo>	;; ticker
Mar 01 22:17:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.66001, Best ask: 33.89669, Bid-ask spread: 0.23668, Last trade: 33.65062, 24 hour volume: 62649.19977577, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.08709
Mar 01 22:18:00 <BingoBongo>	http://bitbet.us/bet/254/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-be-above-35-on/ Resolved?
Mar 01 22:18:55 <kakobrekla>	it says there
Mar 01 22:18:56 <kakobrekla>	Betting closed. Pending resolution.
Mar 01 22:19:13 <BingoBongo>	Is it UTC?
Mar 01 22:19:37 <kakobrekla>	yea
Mar 01 22:20:06 <BingoBongo>	Cool
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Mar 01 22:38:04 <mircea_popescu>	did it ?
Mar 01 22:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 01 22:38:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.41001, Best ask: 34.42509, Bid-ask spread: 0.01508, Last trade: 34.40738, 24 hour volume: 62436.63064572, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.09427
Mar 01 22:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	seems not.
Mar 01 22:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	"stabilization of expected inflation..are products of the increasing credibility of the Fed's commitment to price stability"
Mar 01 22:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha duuude.
Mar 01 22:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what's in their tokes.
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Mar 01 22:47:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00412 BTC [-]
Mar 01 23:08:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00198 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
Mar 01 23:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10690 @ 0.00075142 = 8.0327 BTC [-]
Mar 01 23:11:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1860 @ 0.00074926 = 1.3936 BTC [-]
Mar 01 23:20:31 <ThickAsThieves>	burnside exchanges down?
Mar 01 23:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	seems fine
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Mar 01 23:30:31 <ThickAsThieves>	I get Error: Xcoind backend failure in getbalance at 774
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Mar 01 23:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	are you logged in as mircea_popescu ?
Mar 01 23:33:16 <ThickAsThieves>	nah i sold those 900 shares
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Mar 01 23:34:41 <ThickAsThieves>	works fine in a diff browser
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Mar 01 23:35:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://mises.org/daily/6361/Monetary-Origins-of-the-Poker-Bubble
Mar 01 23:35:27 <mircea_popescu>	actually a pretty good read.
Mar 01 23:36:12 <ThickAsThieves>	ok so i opened another browser,
Mar 01 23:36:17 <ThickAsThieves>	but when i log in
Mar 01 23:36:22 <ThickAsThieves>	it gives me the error again
Mar 01 23:36:34 <ThickAsThieves>	when you tested did you log in?
Mar 01 23:36:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume you dont have an account...
Mar 01 23:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 8 @ 0.26455015 = 2.1164 BTC [+]
Mar 01 23:37:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.681 = 2.043 BTC [+]
Mar 01 23:39:21 <mircea_popescu>	i just pinged
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Mar 01 23:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	burnside_afk ^
Mar 01 23:40:04 <Chaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147504.msg1572916#msg1572916  seen this lol
Mar 01 23:41:13 <ThickAsThieves>	such an expesive lesson to learn!
Mar 01 23:41:24 <Chaang-Noi>	well, they lost just a bit
Mar 01 23:41:33 <Chaang-Noi>	bet right, still lose money however is fucking lol
Mar 01 23:41:49 <ThickAsThieves>	it's certainly not good for publicity,
Mar 01 23:42:13 <ThickAsThieves>	but i also kinda fon't care about people trying to sneak bets in at low risk
Mar 01 23:42:18 <Chaang-Noi>	well people should not make a bet when weight is only 75 out of 100,000
Mar 01 23:42:19 <ThickAsThieves>	don't*
Mar 01 23:42:53 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i made like 9% on my late bet
Mar 01 23:43:02 <Chaang-Noi>	people need to do mathz
Mar 01 23:43:09 <ThickAsThieves>	also, as mp pointed out, if it was a higher ratio bet
Mar 01 23:43:15 <ThickAsThieves>	lower weight can still get coin
Mar 01 23:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	<ThickAsThieves> but i also kinda fon't care about people trying to sneak bets in at low risk << this.
Mar 01 23:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	scalper self-owned. duh.
Mar 01 23:44:51 <ThickAsThieves>	that guy who bet 50 BTC
Mar 01 23:44:56 <ThickAsThieves>	lost like 11 cents
Mar 01 23:45:00 <ThickAsThieves>	cry me a river
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Mar 01 23:54:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i just found it funny
Mar 01 23:54:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i was not complaining
Mar 01 23:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	i guess bitbet is busting into the mainstream,
Mar 01 23:56:09 <mircea_popescu>	there's fiddy threads about that it seems
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Mar 02 00:00:00 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, people who like btc love gambling
Mar 02 00:00:10 <Chaang-Noi>	crazy...
Mar 02 00:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	i think people love gambling a liot more than anyone suspects
Mar 02 00:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	it's just too difficult to do
Mar 02 00:01:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i had someone justify scratch tickets to me the other day
Mar 02 00:01:40 <ThickAsThieves>	basically, you can't win if you don't play!
Mar 02 00:02:56 <B0g4r7>	I liked scalping BoB bets.  Lately they've stopped me tho.
Mar 02 00:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	how ?
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Mar 02 00:08:14 <ThickAsThieves>	dang them DMC shares paid nicely
Mar 02 00:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147314.msg1568293#msg1568293
Mar 02 00:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	i like it when she totally shots threads dead
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Mar 02 00:11:46 <ThickAsThieves>	i think one appealing aspect of the company retaining shares as payment
Mar 02 00:12:01 <ThickAsThieves>	is it make figuring dividends per share simpler
Mar 02 00:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	how you figure ?
Mar 02 00:14:10 <ThickAsThieves>	on the fly i mean, like while checking out stock prices on the exchanges
Mar 02 00:14:38 <ThickAsThieves>	you dont need to memorize or look up how many shares are public
Mar 02 00:15:20 <ThickAsThieves>	like sdice, how 10% of profit goes to public
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Mar 02 00:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Mar 02 00:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	what you say seems to contradict what you say.
Mar 02 00:15:50 <ThickAsThieves>	i realize that
Mar 02 00:15:51 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 02 00:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	so, normal company. issues 100 shares, makes 100 profit, retains 30% pays out 70%. dividend is .7 per share
Mar 02 00:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	weirdo glbse abomination : issues 100 shares, of which it sells 70 and keeps 30 "for growth". makes 100 profit now it pays out 1 per share
Mar 02 00:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	except each actual share gets a further .3 from the retainment
Mar 02 00:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	and wtf
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Mar 02 00:17:52 <ThickAsThieves>	pretty much yeah
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Mar 02 00:19:24 <mircea_popescu>	and then later maybe it sells some of the "kept" shares
Mar 02 00:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	in general it's just a way to equivocate ownership, which practically works as a way for the operator to steal equity.
Mar 02 00:19:54 <mircea_popescu>	not something you wish to see.
Mar 02 00:20:37 <ThickAsThieves>	expenses arent exactly difficult to fake either
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Mar 02 00:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	true
Mar 02 00:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	this is a major problem going forward actually.
Mar 02 00:24:25 <ThickAsThieves>	for example, this bitcoinpride ipo
Mar 02 00:24:35 <ThickAsThieves>	who knows what the hell his expenses are
Mar 02 00:24:39 <ThickAsThieves>	selling shirts
Mar 02 00:24:45 <ThickAsThieves>	is he printing on demand?
Mar 02 00:24:51 <ThickAsThieves>	screenprinting in batches?
Mar 02 00:25:00 <ThickAsThieves>	using a vendor?
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Mar 02 00:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
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Mar 02 00:29:14 <Chaang-Noi>	mp, i was told if we deposit 1000 btc on mpex we get a free account. true or not?
Mar 02 00:30:57 <mircea_popescu>	not.
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Mar 02 00:50:51 <Chaang-Noi>	ah your mp-pr girl told that to theymos in a thread somewhere
Mar 02 00:51:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought it was odd as i had never seen that offer before
Mar 02 00:52:18 <Eduard_Munteanu>	He quit.
Mar 02 00:57:26 <Chaang-Noi>	right
Mar 02 00:57:28 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Mar 02 01:01:34 <aiball>	;;ticker s.dice
Mar 02 01:01:34 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
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Mar 02 01:32:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.645001 = 9.675 BTC [-]
Mar 02 01:32:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.645 = 2.58 BTC [-]
Mar 02 01:38:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00074926 = 6.4436 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 02:15:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.00927 = 0.0371 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 02:47:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00074927 = 7.4927 BTC [+]
Mar 02 02:47:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6669 @ 0.00074926 = 4.9968 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 03:27:40 <Bowjob>	k, avalon isnt broken
Mar 02 03:27:40 <Bowjob>	lo
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Mar 02 03:50:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4371 @ 0.00074926 = 3.275 BTC [-]
Mar 02 03:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074909 = 3.7455 BTC [-]
Mar 02 03:50:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11429 @ 0.0007476 = 8.5443 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 04:06:17 <guest_____>	Chaang-Noi, hey, burnside here
Mar 02 04:06:32 <guest_____>	heh, using bitfunder's IRC Chat web thing again
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Mar 02 05:00:58 <usagi>	hai
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Mar 02 05:19:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00565 = 0.0339 BTC [-]
Mar 02 05:20:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 05:22:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 06:12:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6451 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 06:31:56 <Bowjob>	meow
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Mar 02 06:41:23 <Chaang-Noi>	;;btc;;stats
Mar 02 06:41:24 <gribble>	Error: "btc;;stats" is not a valid command.
Mar 02 06:42:20 <Bowjob>	  so it turns out avalon isnt defective
Mar 02 06:42:20 <Bowjob>	:3
Mar 02 06:44:24 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 02 06:44:25 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.26930 U.S. dollars = 26.3245506 Euros
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Mar 02 06:57:50 <Bowjob>	Damn, LTC went up in value
Mar 02 06:57:53 <Bowjob>	not what I expected
Mar 02 06:58:01 <Bowjob>	.. 8 cents a piece now
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Mar 02 07:47:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not yet get to buy 100% back, im pissed :/
Mar 02 07:47:39 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone know anything about trucks?  2012 Toyota Hilux Vigo Double Cab 2.7 E VVT-i Manual 4x2      what does the 4x2 mean?
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Mar 02 07:49:54 <Chaang-Noi>	ah it means 2WD lol, fucking marketers
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Mar 02 08:01:22 <mircea_popescu>	Hi there, I would like to start correspondence with you, i have seen your profile and i'm very interested. I'm looking for loyal, romantic and intelligent guy for serious relations.
Mar 02 08:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	ok, who's been spreading shit about me ?
Mar 02 08:01:56 <BitHub>	that's cheating spamming whore
Mar 02 08:02:04 <BitHub>	-'s
Mar 02 08:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	I dunno dood. she signs "Respectfully yours, Tanya" and her email is Sorokian83@yandex.ru
Mar 02 08:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	seems legit.
Mar 02 08:02:58 <BitHub>	don't let her go bro, follow your heart
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Mar 02 08:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	"[WTB] $ Get Me a Digital File(s) From the Internet $ 	johnniewalker"
Mar 02 08:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	is this guy serious ?!
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Mar 02 08:36:20 <kakobrekla>	mornin.
Mar 02 08:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	dude bitbet was haxed!
Mar 02 08:39:03 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 02 08:39:40 <BitHub>	not again
Mar 02 08:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 02 08:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148350.0
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Mar 02 08:41:58 <mircea_popescu>	gotta love this stuff. asicminer/bitfountain dropped the ball on handling their shares ?
Mar 02 08:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	that's ok, the market will do what it can.
Mar 02 08:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps the next company learns to be less retarded from this.
Mar 02 08:43:11 <BitHub>	hmmmm
Mar 02 08:43:23 <BitHub>	asicminer PT
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Mar 02 08:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00074766 = 7.5514 BTC [+]
Mar 02 08:51:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.0007476 = 0.4486 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 08:53:27 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 02 08:53:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00610823 / 0.00637054 / 0.00637777 (37300 shares, 237.62 BTC), 7D: 0.00578039 / 0.00624256 / 0.00638999 (351758 shares, 2,195.87 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00601894 / 0.007395 (6807830 shares, 40,975.93 BTC)
Mar 02 08:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.00601894*40000
Mar 02 08:53:42 <gribble>	240.7576
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Mar 02 08:55:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 02 08:55:58 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4194032.01349 based on data since last change | 4324654.12955 based on data for last three days
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Mar 02 09:02:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+]
Mar 02 09:02:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 02 09:02:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.1199 = 0.2398 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 09:03:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 18 @ 0.00849 = 0.1528 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 09:09:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.35 = 2.45 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 09:12:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.00849 = 0.0679 BTC [-]
Mar 02 09:15:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20845732 = 208.4573 BTC [+]
Mar 02 09:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23388811 = 233.8881 BTC [+]
Mar 02 09:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26266949 = 262.6695 BTC [-]
Mar 02 09:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 8 @ 0.27533866 = 2.2027 BTC [-]
Mar 02 09:16:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 992 @ 0.29501916 = 292.659 BTC [+]
Mar 02 09:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	aaand the oix jumps two dolla
Mar 02 09:18:16 <kakobrekla>	36 O_o
Mar 02 09:18:27 <kakobrekla>	almost 37
Mar 02 09:18:47 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Mar 02 09:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	these are exciting times
Mar 02 09:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi what you're probably thinking about is the fact that if you trade worth somethign like a few k's worth you make your mpex reg fee back out of the fees difference.
Mar 02 09:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	also i nthe news, http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/28/girls-gone-wild-bankruptcy/1954419/
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Mar 02 09:23:33 <BitHub>	oh no
Mar 02 09:23:52 <BitHub>	who will document these beautiful creatures?
Mar 02 09:23:56 *	BitHub steps up
Mar 02 09:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	their bfs ?
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Mar 02 09:36:52 <Chaang-Noi>	mp it was something your pr girl told theymos
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Mar 02 09:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	a, a that.
Mar 02 09:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, but that was strictly an offer related to his forum moneyz.
Mar 02 09:38:06 <mircea_popescu>	like a one off sort of thing. (he missed out on it too)
Mar 02 09:38:19 <Chaang-Noi>	that did not seem to be clear
Mar 02 09:38:43 <mircea_popescu>	a well. we live, we clarify.
Mar 02 09:39:06 <Chaang-Noi>	just wondering, i passed up the free account with no string attached anyway.
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Mar 02 09:39:41 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda found why he was doing that with the forum moneies, he wanted to do fraction reserves...
Mar 02 09:39:45 <Chaang-Noi>	seems like a cover to spend it..
Mar 02 09:39:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.0906 = 0.1812 BTC [+]
Mar 02 09:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	from what i recall you got really hot and bothered because you missent something like a 1 btc
Mar 02 09:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	back before mpex, in the mpoe days
Mar 02 09:40:30 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 02 09:40:41 <Chaang-Noi>	mpoe?
Mar 02 09:42:04 <Chaang-Noi>	i passed it up cuz i assumed an exchange with high fees would never work, and other than s,dice that seems to be true, and i think s.dice is way to high and i would not ahve invested in it anyway.
Mar 02 09:42:43 <BitHub>	my lawyer advised me to not use mpex
Mar 02 09:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub did you get a signed paper and everything ?
Mar 02 09:43:07 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, why did you waste your lawyers time? what did you really think he would say?
Mar 02 09:43:34 <Chaang-Noi>	what lawyer anywhere would think an unregistered stock exchange in fake internet money was a good idea??
Mar 02 09:44:09 <BitHub>	i'm jk :)
Mar 02 09:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	well inasmuch as it's fake internet money, what diff does it make.
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Mar 02 09:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub pity, i'd totally have put it up in the faq
Mar 02 09:45:14 <BitHub>	haha
Mar 02 09:45:23 <BitHub>	i like your faq
Mar 02 09:45:27 <BitHub>	"this is dog"
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Mar 02 09:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	it may be dog, but it's a bitch for translators.
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Mar 02 09:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-03-01/business/chi-square-told-to-stop-processing-mobile-payments-in-ill-20130301_1_mobile-payments-illinois-regulators-cell-phone
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Mar 02 10:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20812111 = 208.1211 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:03:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23354686 = 233.5469 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:03:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26232486 = 262.3249 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:03:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29467593 = 294.6759 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:04:03 <ThickAsThieves>	lol http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/1/4054762/obama-strikes-back-after-illogical-jedi-mind-meld-comment
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Mar 02 10:18:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.68 = 5.44 BTC [+]
Mar 02 10:19:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20807672 = 208.0767 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23350323 = 233.5032 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26228253 = 262.2825 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	oh my.
Mar 02 10:19:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29463549 = 294.6355 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:19:52 <error4733>	can some1 can explain thids for me please ?
Mar 02 10:20:01 <Bugpowder>	Big beta
Mar 02 10:20:07 <Bugpowder>	Bets
Mar 02 10:20:19 <error4733>	still a noob for this kind of stuff
Mar 02 10:20:32 <error4733>	bet on 37$ ?
Mar 02 10:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	on just a little under 37 i think
Mar 02 10:21:13 <Bugpowder>	More like $50
Mar 02 10:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	no wait. actually, on 44
Mar 02 10:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 02 10:21:22 <mircea_popescu>	oix calls  side says 44.0
Mar 02 10:21:35 <error4733>	what the name of this order ? (needed for google)
Mar 02 10:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	but i guess the person is probably going for the psychological 50
Mar 02 10:21:44 <Bugpowder>	Yah
Mar 02 10:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 call options ?
Mar 02 10:21:48 <error4733>	this
Mar 02 10:22:00 <error4733>	thanks ;) i told you i'm a noob hehe
Mar 02 10:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	dude if we have a new max in feb and break 50 in march...
Mar 02 10:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	true that it's a long (5 week) month
Mar 02 10:23:28 <Bugpowder>	Those need it to hit 46.5
Mar 02 10:23:55 <ThickAsThieves>	not unlikely
Mar 02 10:23:56 <Bugpowder>	At least the 37s
Mar 02 10:24:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 47
Mar 02 10:24:37 <gribble>	There are currently 38136.24 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 1443933.18817 USD in total.
Mar 02 10:24:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 37
Mar 02 10:24:57 <gribble>	There are currently 18088.055 bitcoins offered at or under 37.0 USD, worth 641235.039706 USD in total.
Mar 02 10:25:11 <error4733>	same wall as 32$
Mar 02 10:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	mil and a half. somehow it doesn't look like much at all.
Mar 02 10:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if this signals the top is in.
Mar 02 10:25:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20803246 = 208.0325 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:25:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23345974 = 233.4597 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:25:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26224033 = 262.2403 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:26:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29459517 = 294.5952 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:26:05 <Bugpowder>	If its that other big fish, it will prob tank within 24 hours
Mar 02 10:26:08 <mircea_popescu>	he's gonna buy the whole book isnt he.
Mar 02 10:26:23 <Bugpowder>	He will exit for a 30% loss
Mar 02 10:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol i recall that.
Mar 02 10:26:32 <Bugpowder>	And it will then bounce
Mar 02 10:26:38 <mircea_popescu>	to 50
Mar 02 10:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 02 10:26:42 <mircea_popescu>	it totally happened once
Mar 02 10:26:44 <Bugpowder>	And continue up to 50
Mar 02 10:26:52 <Bugpowder>	Last month
Mar 02 10:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't it end of jan ?
Mar 02 10:27:05 <Bugpowder>	Happened twice
Mar 02 10:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	i recall the huge puts scramble end of jan
Mar 02 10:27:19 <Bugpowder>	End of jan with the short puts
Mar 02 10:27:22 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Mar 02 10:27:26 <Bugpowder>	And again mid feb
Mar 02 10:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0063777 = 63.777 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:27:54 <Bugpowder>	Heyyo
Mar 02 10:28:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.646 = 17.442 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	777 is that some sort of payout ?
Mar 02 10:28:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.646 = 12.92 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:28:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6455 = 1.9365 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:28:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6452 = 1.9356 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:28:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.6451 = 7.7412 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:28:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.642 = 22.47 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 10:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	hmm, i have an idea.
Mar 02 10:29:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0063777 = 31.8885 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:30:47 <error4733>	? i'm still drunk ? those order should normlay got a  [+]
Mar 02 10:32:17 <ThickAsThieves>	price went down -
Mar 02 10:32:46 <ThickAsThieves>	interested in hearing this idea
Mar 02 10:34:05 <error4733>	http://www.onerandomb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/jackie-chan-meme.png
Mar 02 10:34:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.642 = 12.84 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:36:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.665 = 4.655 BTC [+]
Mar 02 10:36:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20799254 = 207.9925 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23342052 = 233.4205 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 18 @ 0.262 = 4.716 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 982 @ 0.26220227 = 257.4826 BTC [+]
Mar 02 10:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29455881 = 294.5588 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 02 10:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00000027 / 0.00000041 / 0.00000045 ( shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 02 10:37:48 <mircea_popescu>	aha.
Mar 02 10:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 02 10:39:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 26.99890377 / 41.78034705 / 44.6280476 ( shares, 8,354.47 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 02 10:39:18 <ThickAsThieves>	so the more people factor this OIX into their decisions, the more it manifests it's own value
Mar 02 10:39:20 <ThickAsThieves>	genius
Mar 02 10:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	ok so, the low is put oix, the high is call oix, the avg is mixed oix.
Mar 02 10:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves virus :D
Mar 02 10:40:42 <Bugpowder>	Love the oix idea btw
Mar 02 10:40:57 <mircea_popescu>	:)
Mar 02 10:41:15 <ThickAsThieves>	so is an oix asset coming up too?
Mar 02 10:41:22 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 02 10:41:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 26.99890377 / 41.78034705 / 44.6280476 (no shares, 8,354.47 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 02 10:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha check that out, i can now hax assbot.
Mar 02 10:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well possibly. i think it's not heavy enough yet to trade.
Mar 02 10:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	maybe a decent idea for a PT, but i'd be loath to introduce it to mpex, have someone dump 5k on it
Mar 02 10:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	when itself it's only based on like 8k atm and may at any time zero out even
Mar 02 10:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20795276 = 207.9528 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23338143 = 233.3814 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:44:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26216435 = 262.1644 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:44:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29452258 = 294.5226 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	yup he's buying the book, no doubt about it
Mar 02 10:45:02 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah i was mostly thinking about potential PT too
Mar 02 10:45:27 <ThickAsThieves>	now this is def beyond my knowledge,
Mar 02 10:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	actually it would prolly make a wunderbar hedge for anchoring tyhings like ltc
Mar 02 10:45:39 <ThickAsThieves>	but buying the book essentially puts him in control?
Mar 02 10:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves in a sense. it takes the bot out of the offer market, so he might be able to offer them back at w/e price suits him
Mar 02 10:46:16 <mircea_popescu>	but its limited
Mar 02 10:46:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i think there's a lot of potential for playing ltc assets and ltc in general against btc
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Mar 02 10:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	ya possibly.
Mar 02 10:47:02 <ThickAsThieves>	ive been buying up stuff
Mar 02 10:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	it's unlikely you'd make a oix bet that's too big in ltc, because ltc is kinda small.
Mar 02 10:48:26 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc=.0788 usd
Mar 02 10:48:33 <ThickAsThieves>	.00243 BTC
Mar 02 10:49:26 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm tempting to get into botting on BTCe
Mar 02 10:49:37 <ThickAsThieves>	but its one more thing for me to learn
Mar 02 10:49:49 <ThickAsThieves>	you can push the price so easy
Mar 02 10:50:10 <ThickAsThieves>	even a 5000ltc buy at the right time of day sways the price for a while
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Mar 02 10:51:02 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 5000*.00243
Mar 02 10:51:03 <gribble>	12.15
Mar 02 10:51:06 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Mar 02 10:51:33 <kakobrekla>	LETS FUCK UP LTC WITH 12 BTC
Mar 02 10:52:17 <error4733>	it's the plan with my SD div
Mar 02 10:52:17 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe,
Mar 02 10:52:46 <ThickAsThieves>	depends on time of day
Mar 02 10:52:57 <ThickAsThieves>	like right now 5000ltc doesnt make a big dent
Mar 02 10:53:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20790871 = 207.9087 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:53:02 <ThickAsThieves>	but last night it did
Mar 02 10:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23333813 = 233.3381 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26212234 = 262.1223 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29448245 = 294.4825 BTC [-]
Mar 02 10:53:48 <mircea_popescu>	5k ltc is what, like twenny bux ?
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Mar 02 10:54:08 <ThickAsThieves>	413
Mar 02 10:54:41 <ThickAsThieves>	if someone took 100-150btc into btc-e
Mar 02 10:54:46 <ThickAsThieves>	you could control it probably
Mar 02 10:55:44 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of socks, http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/482780_10151514214651427_1000150296_n.jpg
Mar 02 10:56:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 5000 * .0788
Mar 02 10:56:16 <gribble>	394
Mar 02 10:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Mar 02 10:56:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;gettrust ThickAsThieves
Mar 02 10:56:53 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=ThickAsThieves
Mar 02 10:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	aww y not in the wot
Mar 02 10:58:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm a noob
Mar 02 10:58:15 <ThickAsThieves>	is why
Mar 02 10:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	so get reg'd.
Mar 02 10:58:28 <ThickAsThieves>	i should
Mar 02 10:58:44 <ThickAsThieves>	curious, why did you look me up?
Mar 02 10:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	because i am looking for a ltc broker.
Mar 02 10:59:00 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Mar 02 10:59:34 <kakobrekla>	what are your evil plans mp
Mar 02 10:59:50 <ThickAsThieves>	crash ltc
Mar 02 10:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	they're not evil he said knowingly.
Mar 02 11:00:00 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 02 11:01:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20734514 = 207.3451 BTC [-]
Mar 02 11:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23274072 = 232.7407 BTC [-]
Mar 02 11:01:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26148834 = 261.4883 BTC [-]
Mar 02 11:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29382066 = 293.8207 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 11:08:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i think i did that right
Mar 02 11:08:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;gettrust ThickAsThieves
Mar 02 11:08:16 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=ThickAsThieves
Mar 02 11:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20730639 = 207.3064 BTC [-]
Mar 02 11:11:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23270264 = 232.7026 BTC [-]
Mar 02 11:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating ThickAsThieves
Mar 02 11:11:58 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Mar 02 11:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 642 @ 0.26145139 = 167.8518 BTC [-]
Mar 02 11:12:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 697 @ 0.29378535 = 204.7684 BTC [-]
Mar 02 11:12:26 <mircea_popescu>	seems you're there.
Mar 02 11:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	and the book's gone on the low end
Mar 02 11:13:17 <ThickAsThieves>	ok now i did it
Mar 02 11:13:31 <ThickAsThieves>	missed the bcverify step
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Mar 02 11:13:59 <ThickAsThieves>	so now i should call in some recent people i transacted with to get some ratings in there right?
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Mar 02 11:20:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;getrating ThickAsThieves
Mar 02 11:20:54 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask ThickAsThieves!ThickAsThi@c-98-231-58-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net . User thickasthieves, rated since Sat Mar  2 08:19:18 2013. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 0 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=thickasthieves
Mar 02 11:20:59 <ThickAsThieves>	yay
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Mar 02 11:25:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 1.6 = 14.4 BTC [-]
Mar 02 11:25:38 <jurov>	_;;rate ThickAsThieves -10 welcome
Mar 02 11:26:08 <ThickAsThieves>	:P
Mar 02 11:26:42 <jurov>	>:D
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Mar 02 11:38:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
Mar 02 11:39:15 <topace_>	mircea_popescu: in the push receipt, quantity will be split with a thousands separator right? like 1`456`231 ?
Mar 02 11:39:19 <topace_>	Your order to push 1xS.DICE ...etc
Mar 02 11:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	let me check that for you
Mar 02 11:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	no, it will not.
Mar 02 11:41:47 <topace_>	ah k thanks.  just /[0-9]+/ then?
Mar 02 11:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	uyp
Mar 02 11:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	no dots either, an integer value
Mar 02 11:42:06 <topace_>	perfect
Mar 02 11:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally : you can test push by pushing to your own account
Mar 02 11:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	to your heart's content.
Mar 02 11:42:41 <topace_>	ooo good to know!
Mar 02 11:42:42 <topace_>	thanks
Mar 02 11:42:57 <topace_>	im _almost_ ready to do a test :)
Mar 02 11:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	it person is like "yes, you said no separators there because people may want to use it programatically"
Mar 02 11:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	im like... dude... totally. back in january
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Mar 02 11:47:04 <topace_>	haha nice
Mar 02 11:47:16 <topace_>	well programatically i wouldnt care, just need to konw one way or another
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Mar 02 11:47:34 <topace_>	no difference between /[0-9`]+/ and /[0-9]+/
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Mar 02 11:53:02 <Bugpowder>	36000 calls
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Mar 02 11:53:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 30 @ 0.3 = 9 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 12:00:14 <kakobrekla>	frizz is stickin to it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147914.msg1575388#msg1575388
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Mar 02 12:03:41 <ThickAsThieves>	many will agree with him
Mar 02 12:03:48 <ThickAsThieves>	idc
Mar 02 12:03:52 <ThickAsThieves>	but they will
Mar 02 12:05:53 <B0g4r7>	I don't know the story, but if the fees are disclosed in the terms and he didn't read or agree to them, then tough hash.
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Mar 02 12:25:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6771 @ 0.0007476 = 5.062 BTC [-]
Mar 02 12:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1671 @ 0.00074398 = 1.2432 BTC [-]
Mar 02 12:38:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6799 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 12:44:18 <mjr_>	hello everyone
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Mar 02 12:50:23 <mjr_>	whats new everyone?
Mar 02 12:56:37 <topace_>	just finishing my mpex->havelock push code
Mar 02 12:56:42 <topace_>	looking for testers soon :)
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Mar 02 13:08:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 13:43:53 <blu3gr1ffon>	 /j #nachatroom
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Mar 02 13:55:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7794 @ 0.00074398 = 5.7986 BTC [-]
Mar 02 13:55:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41791 @ 0.00073993 = 30.9224 BTC [-]
Mar 02 13:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4446 @ 0.00073886 = 3.285 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 13:57:53 <Bowjob>	mhm
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Mar 02 14:01:06 <blu3gr1ffon>	man motion
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Mar 02 14:02:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 02 14:02:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.00002, Best ask: 34.09012, Bid-ask spread: 0.09010, Last trade: 34.09012, 24 hour volume: 45679.51468007, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 34.01969
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Mar 02 14:05:46 <error4733>	;;ticker m s.dice
Mar 02 14:05:47 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
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Mar 02 14:11:34 <mjr_>	is there a unicode character for bitcoin yet?
Mar 02 14:13:30 <error4733>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_symbol
Mar 02 14:14:23 <mjr_>	thanks :)
Mar 02 14:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla big surprise there.
Mar 02 14:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/277/bitbet-haxxed-in-2013/
Mar 02 14:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol bet clearly says "all nos will be refunded"
Mar 02 14:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	people bet no.
Mar 02 14:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	win.
Mar 02 14:23:03 <jurov>	someone used faucet to annoying end?
Mar 02 14:23:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4446 @ 0.00075672 = 3.3644 BTC [+]
Mar 02 14:23:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23938 @ 0.00075673 = 18.1146 BTC [+]
Mar 02 14:23:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00075712 = 7.5712 BTC [+]
Mar 02 14:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14713 @ 0.00075713 = 11.1397 BTC [+]
Mar 02 14:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8427 @ 0.00075999 = 6.4044 BTC [+]
Mar 02 14:23:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37974 @ 0.00076 = 28.8602 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 14:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 502 @ 0.000763 = 0.383 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 14:24:38 <jurov>	btw, mpex.co is still unavailable from here
Mar 02 14:24:42 <Bowjob>	now where is that mpoe havelock pt
Mar 02 14:25:13 <jurov>	maybe i fell into their new anti-ddos filter :(
Mar 02 14:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	there's a filter ?
Mar 02 14:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	"Evernote resets all passwords after user information stolen in security breach"
Mar 02 14:26:26 <jurov>	maybe they decided to start one... it's too specific and long-standing to be some routing issue
Mar 02 14:27:26 <jurov>	mircea, can you pls ask the datacenter or at least give me their email?
Mar 02 14:27:39 <jurov>	or whoever might be responsible
Mar 02 14:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure there's no such thing.
Mar 02 14:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	can you see trilema ?
Mar 02 14:28:16 <jurov>	nope
Mar 02 14:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 02 14:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	lesee, can you see ukavra.com ?
Mar 02 14:29:22 <jurov>	"You’ve found Pe fuga …"
Mar 02 14:29:45 <jurov>	so, yes
Mar 02 14:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, that's in the same dc, so.
Mar 02 14:30:25 <mircea_popescu>	try ditching your dns service provided by yiour isp and use google instead for a day
Mar 02 14:30:27 <mircea_popescu>	see if it clears it
Mar 02 14:30:49 <jurov>	look into the traceroute i put yest, if the ip is correct
Mar 02 14:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	gimme link again ?
Mar 02 14:31:23 <jurov>	http://bitbin.it/Malhw4h3 63.247.64.94
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Mar 02 14:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Mar 02 14:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	hm
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Mar 02 15:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134024.msg1493309#msg1493309
Mar 02 15:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	what a thread killer.
Mar 02 15:19:54 <Bugpowder>	Maybe this is a catchier headline... http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/
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Mar 02 15:53:26 <mod6>	frickin finally
Mar 02 15:54:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.59 BTC [-]
Mar 02 15:54:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.588 BTC [-]
Mar 02 15:54:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.56 = 3.12 BTC [-]
Mar 02 15:54:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.56 = 4.68 BTC [-]
Mar 02 15:54:24 *	mircea_popescu looks
Mar 02 15:54:33 <mod6>	just got this huge problem fixed
Mar 02 15:54:50 *	mod6 bangs head
Mar 02 15:57:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.55 = 6.2 BTC [-]
Mar 02 16:00:05 <mod6>	damn grails app was shitting the bed.
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Mar 02 16:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	good for you
Mar 02 16:06:41 <kakobrekla>	in the news ...Bit4X Affiliate program
Mar 02 16:06:42 <kakobrekla>	http://bit4x.com/news.html
Mar 02 16:06:44 <kakobrekla>	is it clear?
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Mar 02 16:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder pretty cool stuff
Mar 02 16:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla haha cool
Mar 02 16:08:23 <mircea_popescu>	sounds eerily familiar :D
Mar 02 16:08:28 <kakobrekla>	:DDD
Mar 02 16:08:30 <kakobrekla>	i admit.
Mar 02 16:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	"The bonuses may be withdrawn"
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Mar 02 16:08:56 <mircea_popescu>	this makes it sound like it's taken away
Mar 02 16:09:25 <kakobrekla>	its not taken away, you just dont have the right to withdraw it before that
Mar 02 16:09:37 <kakobrekla>	its abuse protection
Mar 02 16:09:43 <mircea_popescu>	yeah i figure
Mar 02 16:09:48 <kakobrekla>	costs nothing to register unlike in your case
Mar 02 16:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	"To protect against the situation where someone deposits, gets the bonus and immediately withdraws this offer is only valid for accounts which trade at least X"
Mar 02 16:11:08 <kakobrekla>	ok sounds better
Mar 02 16:11:15 <kakobrekla>	gonna switch
Mar 02 16:11:20 <kakobrekla>	ty
Mar 02 16:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	np
Mar 02 16:12:54 <error4733>	what is the last div for asicminer ?
Mar 02 16:18:48 <Bugpowder>	you could have the bonus vest after x days or y trading volume
Mar 02 16:19:34 <kakobrekla>	hm, i guess so
Mar 02 16:19:40 <kakobrekla>	ah well it is what it is now
Mar 02 16:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	i read that as a bonus vest originally
Mar 02 16:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	and i was thinking whoa mmorpg
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Mar 02 16:30:19 <Bugpowder>	up to 4th place
Mar 02 16:30:19 <Bugpowder>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/
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Mar 02 16:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	who;'s got a reddit acct ? vote the man's story!
Mar 02 16:31:43 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 02 16:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bitcoin Options Index (^OIX) price sentiment indicator hits all time high ($42.66 / BTC) (self.Bitcoin)
Mar 02 16:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	submitted 1 hour ago* by Bugpowder
Mar 02 16:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	commentshare
Mar 02 16:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	6
Mar 02 16:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	15
Mar 02 16:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	Bitcoins price sentiment at a bearish weekly high, still twice as many believe in higher prices within 6 months. You agree? (self.Bitcoin)
Mar 02 16:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	funny.
Mar 02 16:32:04 <Bugpowder>	no link karma unfortunately
Mar 02 16:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	right next to each other.
Mar 02 16:32:17 <Bugpowder>	Yah that dude has a little internet vote button
Mar 02 16:32:20 <Bugpowder>	yawn
Mar 02 16:32:23 <mircea_popescu>	what's a "bearish weekly high" ?!
Mar 02 16:32:31 <Bugpowder>	I couldn't figure it out
Mar 02 16:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	it's one of those cases where his point is like the puss in a zit
Mar 02 16:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	you're sure it must be in there somewhere, but you really don't want to dig it out
Mar 02 16:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, romanian politics (in english) : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/no-seriously-not-much-of-a-priority-anymore/
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Mar 02 16:43:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.35 = 2.45 BTC [+]
Mar 02 16:43:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.3 = 2.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 16:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you're up 12 votes now, and check ouit the comment
Mar 02 16:52:22 <jurov>	too just looking on it
Mar 02 16:52:24 <jurov>	lol
Mar 02 16:55:00 <Bugpowder>	<sigh>
Mar 02 16:57:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.675 = 1.35 BTC [-]
Mar 02 16:58:58 <mircea_popescu>	with a little luck the comment'll get more upvotes than the article itself
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Mar 02 16:59:10 <Bowjob>	aight. my electrum wallet doesnt work wtf
Mar 02 17:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00075923 = 12.1477 BTC [-]
Mar 02 17:01:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1262 @ 0.00075924 = 0.9582 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10457 @ 0.000763 = 7.9787 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00076342 = 7.6342 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00076508 = 10.9024 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:02:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00076655 = 8.892 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00076844 = 7.6844 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:02:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6799 = 1.3598 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:02:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00076944 = 8.8486 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:03:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 650 @ 0.2674139 = 173.819 BTC [-]
Mar 02 17:04:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 02 17:04:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 27.06923527 / 42.61596516 / 44.80704907 (no shares, 12,332.19 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 02 17:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 02 17:04:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.19001, Best ask: 34.24800, Bid-ask spread: 0.05799, Last trade: 34.24800, 24 hour volume: 40994.03888350, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 33.96591
Mar 02 17:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 12332.19*33.96
Mar 02 17:04:33 <gribble>	418801.1724
Mar 02 17:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	this oix thing... it's actually pretty grounded
Mar 02 17:05:56 <Bugpowder>	I just wonder how much of the tracking of it to BTC price is due to the MPOE bot's algorithm vs. true market sentiment
Mar 02 17:06:18 <Bugpowder>	there is, of course, a limit to how far a put or call imbalance can push the OIX
Mar 02 17:06:33 <Bugpowder>	also, have you examined its predictive power?
Mar 02 17:06:35 <mircea_popescu>	actually, there was a point where the oix was pushed to like 90
Mar 02 17:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	the red horiz line on the graph
Mar 02 17:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	but how do you mean about mpoe bot ?
Mar 02 17:06:48 <Bugpowder>	was that near opex?
Mar 02 17:06:59 <Bugpowder>	whatever you call the option market making bot
Mar 02 17:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i think miodterm. i think it was on an otherwise empty book someone buying some weird far out call
Mar 02 17:07:43 <Bugpowder>	like at this time horizion out, even a 100-0 call put ratio can only push the OIX so high dependent on the call price
Mar 02 17:08:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0064 = 0.64 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:08:11 <Bugpowder>	Is the OIX the like CO2?  A trailing indicator?
Mar 02 17:08:12 <Bugpowder>	:)
Mar 02 17:08:44 <mod6>	ahh, its in the vwap now :)
Mar 02 17:08:46 <mod6>	sweet
Mar 02 17:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder well, haerd to tell really.
Mar 02 17:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	what do you make of that graph ?
Mar 02 17:09:16 <Bugpowder>	it's highly correlated!
Mar 02 17:09:47 <Bugpowder>	you, or someone (or me) should look at it's predictive power
Mar 02 17:09:59 <Bugpowder>	is there historical option trade data available?
Mar 02 17:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	well, if you kept the logs...
Mar 02 17:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	tell you what, if you promise to write a good statistical analysis and publish it i'll send you the ~300 datapoints on that graph
Mar 02 17:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	daily oix and daily btc/usd vwap
Mar 02 17:11:28 <Bugpowder>	Let me consult with my statistical wizard friend
Mar 02 17:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	by all means.
Mar 02 17:11:59 <jurov>	to me it looks more just glorified call/put sold ratio
Mar 02 17:12:05 <Bugpowder>	of course if there IS predictive power
Mar 02 17:12:20 <Bugpowder>	maybe I don't want to publish ;)
Mar 02 17:12:21 <jurov>	because most of calls have same breakeven point, puts likewise
Mar 02 17:12:44 <Bugpowder>	jurov the C750T calls dont
Mar 02 17:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the thing is, my bet is that there is predictive power of arbitrary precision for contiguous subsets
Mar 02 17:12:51 <mircea_popescu>	which are dispersed in the full dataset
Mar 02 17:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	it'd only be fair in the fucked sense that term takes in any natural science/
Mar 02 17:13:27 <mircea_popescu>	jurov they don't really have the same breakeven point
Mar 02 17:13:44 <jurov>	i found them being +- 1BTC
Mar 02 17:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	draw the graph if you will, it's a symetrical butterfly.
Mar 02 17:13:53 <jurov>	er... +-1USD
Mar 02 17:14:14 <mircea_popescu>	O.BTCUSD.P290T sells 0.14869039
Mar 02 17:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	O.BTCUSD.P590T sells 0.96290455
Mar 02 17:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 29 / (1 - 0.14869039)
Mar 02 17:14:59 <gribble>	34.0651622622
Mar 02 17:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	eh my bad
Mar 02 17:15:06 <ThickAsThieves>	gonna try and explain bitcoin to the wife tomorrow...
Mar 02 17:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 29 / (1 + 0.14869039)
Mar 02 17:15:07 <gribble>	25.2461413906
Mar 02 17:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 59 / (1 + 0.96290455)
Mar 02 17:15:18 <gribble>	30.057498211
Mar 02 17:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	5.
Mar 02 17:16:04 <jurov>	so,i remember wrong again.. maybe i considered just narrower range
Mar 02 17:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	O.BTCUSD.C290T = 0.32626257 ; O.BTCUSD.C590T = 0.06210314
Mar 02 17:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 29 / (1 -  0.32626257)
Mar 02 17:16:18 <gribble>	43.0434746664
Mar 02 17:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 59 / (1 -  0.06210314)
Mar 02 17:16:26 <gribble>	62.9067038352
Mar 02 17:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	19
Mar 02 17:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	there's a very speciffic=looking graph of the options breakeven points if you calc them all out
Mar 02 17:18:41 <thestringpuller>	it's all pointing to 42
Mar 02 17:18:41 <thestringpuller>	imo
Mar 02 17:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 02 17:18:47 <thestringpuller>	:)
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Mar 02 17:23:32 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 02 17:23:33 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.06157 U.S. dollars = 26.1649793 Euros
Mar 02 17:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136226300119.png
Mar 02 17:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	looking at it roughly : A totally took a bite of concrete, B sort of predicted something, but muchkly exaggerated.
Mar 02 17:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	C however actually predicts.
Mar 02 17:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	so maybe predictive power is actually monotonous.
Mar 02 17:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	monotonic*
Mar 02 17:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	also the crazyspike pre-A does sort of predict
Mar 02 17:26:24 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 02 17:26:24 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.02000 U.S. dollars = 26.1330466 Euros
Mar 02 17:26:37 <Bugpowder>	Hmmm.... Is this 24hprc?
Mar 02 17:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Mar 02 17:27:24 <Bugpowder>	A lot of the option purchases occur when there is a large divergence between realtime spot price and 24hprc
Mar 02 17:28:03 <Bugpowder>	in which case, we might be able to say (the spot price predicts future 24hprc)
Mar 02 17:28:19 <Bugpowder>	as filtered through options purchases.
Mar 02 17:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	this is not actually true tho.
Mar 02 17:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	for instance right now
Mar 02 17:28:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 02 17:28:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.10101, Best ask: 34.20462, Bid-ask spread: 0.10361, Last trade: 34.02000, 24 hour volume: 40252.89496290, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 33.95090
Mar 02 17:28:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.00073 = 0.365 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	the difference is small, yet i just sold 80% of the month's book
Mar 02 17:28:51 <Bugpowder>	that big option buy today is the exception that proves the rule
Mar 02 17:29:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.67 = 2.01 BTC [-]
Mar 02 17:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	many times it was the case that large buys didn't match the theory
Mar 02 17:29:14 <Bugpowder>	bah
Mar 02 17:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, there was a huge differential for days till yest
Mar 02 17:29:19 <Bugpowder>	maybe
Mar 02 17:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	that yielded no actual purchases
Mar 02 17:29:29 <Bugpowder>	bah
Mar 02 17:29:32 <Bugpowder>	humbug
Mar 02 17:29:36 <Bugpowder>	ok
Mar 02 17:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	well it was a good theory, but i don't think it meets the data so far
Mar 02 17:29:46 <EskimoBob>	"cu | this is not actually true tho." really? Most of the stuff you spew out is not true
Mar 02 17:29:56 <Bugpowder>	well MY options purchases occur during divergence periods
Mar 02 17:30:00 <Bugpowder>	hehehe
Mar 02 17:30:01 <mircea_popescu>	that's fine :)
Mar 02 17:30:11 <mircea_popescu>	but sometimes you made and sometimes you lost on that strategy
Mar 02 17:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	so in short i doubt the short term anything but weakly predicts the vwap
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Mar 02 17:54:31 <Bugpowder>	It's available!   http://imgur.com/UBC60Vf
Mar 02 17:54:36 <Bugpowder>	BITCOIN is not though
Mar 02 17:56:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 94 @ 0.002125 = 0.1998 BTC [+]
Mar 02 17:57:00 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 02 17:57:01 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.12900 U.S. dollars = 26.2167768 Euros
Mar 02 18:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7549 @ 0.00077 = 5.8127 BTC [+]
Mar 02 18:04:43 <Bugpowder>	sweet
Mar 02 18:04:59 <Bugpowder>	love getting SMS from localbitcoins.com
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Mar 02 18:19:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7382 @ 0.00077 = 5.6841 BTC [+]
Mar 02 18:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	haha for the tesla ?
Mar 02 18:23:53 <Bugpowder>	still working on that
Mar 02 18:24:03 <Bugpowder>	got a USB stick for that wallet
Mar 02 18:24:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.6 = 9.6 BTC [+]
Mar 02 18:24:12 <Bugpowder>	just waiting for coins to go up a bit more...
Mar 02 18:24:22 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 02 18:24:30 <Bugpowder>	Also need to move to LA
Mar 02 18:24:39 <Bugpowder>	so you know, I can charge my car
Mar 02 18:24:47 <Bugpowder>	my bit car
Mar 02 18:25:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.674 = 13.48 BTC [+]
Mar 02 18:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	"Sums up this subreddit pretty well."
Mar 02 18:25:25 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha wibn
Mar 02 18:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	who did that ?
Mar 02 18:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/c8omekb
Mar 02 18:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	that's your guy.
Mar 02 18:27:31 <jurov>	hehe thx
Mar 02 18:28:20 <jurov>	i'm just engrossed deep into taming mktdepth data to be used in google spreadsheet
Mar 02 18:28:30 <jurov>	since namworld failed in that
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Mar 02 18:29:13 <jurov>	or he just exhausted all time in making pretty background, dunno
Mar 02 18:29:59 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Mar 02 18:30:52 <Anduck>	yea man listen him!
Mar 02 18:31:03 <Anduck>	remove 30btc fee and make it point + click
Mar 02 18:31:10 <Anduck>	and preferable drag&drop too
Mar 02 18:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	im too busy with http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134290700472.jpg
Mar 02 18:31:31 <jurov>	also, existing coinbr users may want to put their referral link there... but i may as well keep these 0.2% to myself :P
Mar 02 18:34:33 <Bugpowder>	oh my
Mar 02 18:34:41 <Bugpowder>	that's nice
Mar 02 18:35:05 <thestringpuller>	Images sent from mircea_popescu pie chart: http://i.imgur.com/1Y97ZnK.png
Mar 02 18:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller :D
Mar 02 18:35:46 <kakobrekla>	you are overestimating bitcoin part
Mar 02 18:35:57 <kakobrekla>	take of a zero.
Mar 02 18:36:01 <Bugpowder>	there is no overlap?
Mar 02 18:36:01 <kakobrekla>	off
Mar 02 18:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you take it off.
Mar 02 18:36:29 *	kakobrekla takes it off.
Mar 02 18:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder yes there is. proof : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136026418899.jpg
Mar 02 18:36:56 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 02 18:37:25 <Bugpowder>	I liked the previous one 100,000,000% more
Mar 02 18:37:27 <thestringpuller>	He photobombed us with balls
Mar 02 18:42:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 110 @ 0.00610825 = 0.6719 BTC [-]
Mar 02 18:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00610824 = 3.0541 BTC [-]
Mar 02 18:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00610823 = 0.6108 BTC [-]
Mar 02 18:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1747 @ 0.00601401 = 10.5065 BTC [-]
Mar 02 18:42:41 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 02 18:42:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.00501, Best ask: 34.12401, Bid-ask spread: 0.11900, Last trade: 34.12401, 24 hour volume: 37039.65816349, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.80800, 24 hour vwap: 33.87769
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Mar 02 18:43:07 <mircea_popescu>	a well.
Mar 02 18:43:26 <thestringpuller>	when do satoshi dice dividends pay?
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Mar 02 18:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	any day now.
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Mar 02 18:44:01 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, off to play path of exile with my all-female clan. bbiab.
Mar 02 18:47:10 <thestringpuller>	You get some good potential sitcom/dark comedy plots in /r/BreakUps: http://www.reddit.com/r/BreakUps/comments/19jjeu/one_of_his_five_girlfriendsat_the_same_time/
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Mar 02 18:57:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00073887 = 11.8219 BTC [-]
Mar 02 18:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5554 @ 0.00073886 = 4.1036 BTC [-]
Mar 02 18:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96 @ 0.00073315 = 0.0704 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 19:03:52 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134799.msg1576586#msg1576586
Mar 02 19:03:55 <kakobrekla>	kinda funny.
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Mar 02 19:05:12 <jurov>	fuck, i forgot to run monthly fee :D
Mar 02 19:05:22 <Bugpowde_>	Wonder how much time he spent on that
Mar 02 19:08:00 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowda
Mar 02 19:08:20 <thestringpuller>	You are my favorite scientist atm. Bill Nye ain't got nuttin on you.
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Mar 02 19:10:29 <Bugpowde_>	<3
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Mar 02 19:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 85 @ 0.71002991 = 60.3525 BTC
Mar 02 19:15:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 225 @ 0.64837795 = 145.885 BTC
Mar 02 19:15:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 450 @ 0.58814383 = 264.6647 BTC
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Mar 02 19:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 675 @ 0.52952177 = 357.4272 BTC
Mar 02 19:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 815 @ 0.47272814 = 385.2734 BTC
Mar 02 19:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 680 @ 0.41800212 = 284.2414 BTC
Mar 02 19:16:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 445 @ 0.36560587 = 162.6946 BTC [+]
Mar 02 19:16:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 295 @ 0.31582454 = 93.1682 BTC
Mar 02 19:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 105 @ 0.26896955 = 28.2418 BTC [+]
Mar 02 19:17:24 <jurov>	;;ticker m oix^
Mar 02 19:17:25 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Mar 02 19:17:53 <jurov>	;;ticker m ^oix
Mar 02 19:17:53 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Mar 02 19:17:58 <jurov>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 02 19:17:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 28.20780706 / 40.92334054 / 44.82313733 (no shares, 14,082.43 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 02 19:18:28 <jurov>	just 0.02 change?
Mar 02 19:18:51 <Bugpowde_>	shorting
Mar 02 19:18:56 <Bugpowde_>	?
Mar 02 19:19:04 <Bugpowde_>	Bot buys don't count
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Mar 02 19:19:23 <jurov>	why? only sells?
Mar 02 19:19:29 <jurov>	that's nonsense
Mar 02 19:19:44 <Bugpowde_>	Nprpreents double counting
Mar 02 19:19:48 <Bugpowde_>	Prevents
Mar 02 19:20:00 <jurov>	if i do split and short sell, that sell is counted in, no?
Mar 02 19:21:07 <thestringpuller>	(42 - 51) / 51
Mar 02 19:21:12 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (42 - 51) / 51
Mar 02 19:21:12 <gribble>	-0.176470588235
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Mar 02 19:21:31 <Bugpowde_>	Dunno
Mar 02 19:22:04 <Bugpowde_>	Those were real buys
Mar 02 19:22:06 <Bugpowde_>	Not shorts
Mar 02 19:22:41 <jurov>	it should have no regard where the options come from
Mar 02 19:23:11 <jurov>	anyway based on my spreadsheet shenanigans, the breakeven point is a bit different from real profitability
Mar 02 19:23:41 <Bugpowde_>	It moved over $2 btw
Mar 02 19:24:01 <Bugpowde_>	The calls only price didn't move
Mar 02 19:24:13 <Bugpowde_>	But tr joint price dropped to $40
Mar 02 19:24:16 <jurov>	from 44.80704907 -> 44.82313733
Mar 02 19:24:37 <jurov>	avg is the middle number? ah yes
Mar 02 19:25:28 <thestringpuller>	Topic jack: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100426131644AAKwLMj - discuss
Mar 02 19:25:33 <Bugpowde_>	Inhibitor23 reddit comment reeks of mp writing it
Mar 02 19:25:52 <Bugpowde_>	I never answer questions that end with "discuss"
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Mar 02 19:26:10 <Bugpowde_>	Such a presumption that the question is worth discussion!
Mar 02 19:26:25 <TradeFortress>	Selling up to 100 ASICMINER shares, pm me with offers.
Mar 02 19:27:03 <kakobrekla>	5btc
Mar 02 19:27:05 <jurov>	TradeFortress ask topace he's doing pt
Mar 02 19:27:18 <jurov>	or burnside?
Mar 02 19:27:28 <TradeFortress>	hmm I thought burnside had enough shares for now
Mar 02 19:27:28 <thestringpuller>	"mircea, if you were half as smart as you think you are, you wouldn't confuse coinbase and coinlab. you'd also have invented antigravity and a time machine, but that's beside the point." - whatcha have to say about that mr. popescu?
Mar 02 19:27:34 <TradeFortress>	but thanks jurov
Mar 02 19:29:10 *	Guest69212 is now known as denialdenial
Mar 02 19:29:32 <jurov>	;;id denialdenial
Mar 02 19:29:33 <gribble>	Error: "id" is not a valid command.
Mar 02 19:29:52 <denialdenial>	what up yo
Mar 02 19:30:03 <denialdenial>	i let my slip show
Mar 02 19:30:06 <thestringpuller>	jurov: is my account just inactive? I don't have to register and blah blah blah aain no?
Mar 02 19:30:10 <thestringpuller>	again*
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Mar 02 19:30:38 <jurov>	you don't have to do anything. but it's good to check just in case
Mar 02 19:31:14 <denialdenial>	y u ident me
Mar 02 19:31:42 <denialdenial>	i havve a new nick so waht want to fight about it
Mar 02 19:31:42 <jurov>	i remember paying out s.bvps to someone who has withdrawn everything (perhaps thinking he'll avoid monthly fee which isn't the case)
Mar 02 19:31:59 <jurov>	;;dox denialdenial
Mar 02 19:31:59 <gribble>	Error: "dox" is not a valid command.
Mar 02 19:32:45 <TradeFortress>	lol
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Mar 02 19:33:47 <thestringpuller>	that was me jurov
Mar 02 19:33:57 <thestringpuller>	SO
Mar 02 19:34:02 <thestringpuller>	what's that supposed to mean
Mar 02 19:34:09 <thestringpuller>	I'm going to have HUGE monthly fee?
Mar 02 19:34:13 <thestringpuller>	>:(
Mar 02 19:34:29 <thestringpuller>	IF and only if I were to ever go back.
Mar 02 19:34:41 <jurov>	as long as there's anything on your account (even if you have 0 btc), you pay
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Mar 02 19:35:16 <thestringpuller>	congratulations! the first BTC Debt account ever created by moi cause I'm never logging back in if that's the case har har har
Mar 02 19:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 24 @ 0.20220992 = 4.853 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 19:36:06 <jurov>	thestringpuller, i went to extra hassle to intimidate poor namworld into paying out
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Mar 02 19:36:24 <mjr_>	hi all
Mar 02 19:36:38 <kakobrekla>	hi
Mar 02 19:36:45 <jurov>	and this is the result. in the future i'll just terminate the asset without any recompensation >:D
Mar 02 19:36:49 <mjr_>	thanks for following me :)
Mar 02 19:36:57 <jurov>	and refer everyone to thestringpuller :D
Mar 02 19:37:05 <mjr_>	@btcshares
Mar 02 19:37:12 <thestringpuller>	all the money that I had in conibr went to smickles
Mar 02 19:37:16 <thestringpuller>	so I will refer people to smickles
Mar 02 19:37:20 <mjr_>	you are bets of bitcoins right?
Mar 02 19:37:28 <kakobrekla>	no
Mar 02 19:37:32 <mjr_>	oh nvm
Mar 02 19:37:40 <mjr_>	thought that was a nickname for bbet
Mar 02 19:37:54 <kakobrekla>	bitbet?
Mar 02 19:38:09 <kakobrekla>	bets of bitcoins is some other site
Mar 02 19:38:29 <jurov>	thestringpuller, srsly. so you want to wipe the acct completely?
Mar 02 19:38:45 <mjr_>	yes, i see they are two different sites now
Mar 02 19:39:53 <mjr_>	hey jurov, sorry i am negative, should i liquidate a position or can we wait for s.dice dividends?
Mar 02 19:40:17 <mjr_>	i thought they would be in by now
Mar 02 19:40:31 <jurov>	they will be anytime till March 5
Mar 02 19:40:59 <mjr_>	k, if that is too long i can liquidate mpoe
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Mar 02 19:41:17 <mjr_>	or i will just fund some more
Mar 02 19:43:30 <TradeFortress>	prehaps it's because S.DICE wants bigger dividends this month so they're delaying it until the 5th
Mar 02 19:43:38 <mjr_>	yeah, i'll fund some more, should be in by tomorrow morning, hopefully i can scoop up some more s.dice too lol
Mar 02 19:44:02 <mjr_>	TradeFortress: pretty sure they will just cut it off at the 28th and the rest goes toward next month
Mar 02 19:44:19 <mjr_>	i know that whole group is on a trip at the moment
Mar 02 19:44:49 <mjr_>	but from what i saw on a forum post, it seems they had a good month
Mar 02 19:44:52 <TradeFortress>	hmm yeah
Mar 02 19:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-disaster/
Mar 02 19:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> if i do split and short sell, that sell is counted in, no? << no. bot's sales only.
Mar 02 19:46:38 <TradeFortress>	LOL
Mar 02 19:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller : that's nice, my antigrav unit is humming quietly in the basement. now what ?
Mar 02 19:47:01 <mjr_>	lol nice post mp
Mar 02 19:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	i bet.
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Mar 02 19:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	<TradeFortress> prehaps it's because S.DICE wants bigger dividends this month so they're delaying it until the 5th << that's not how it works, divs are for feb
Mar 02 19:50:42 <thestringpuller>	voorhees is busy atm
Mar 02 19:50:45 <thestringpuller>	just like everyone
Mar 02 19:51:01 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, yeah, I get it now
Mar 02 19:51:04 <TradeFortress>	:)
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Mar 02 19:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 02 19:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	4:1 for. i wonder
Mar 02 19:53:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 38 @ 0.006296 = 0.2392 BTC [-]
Mar 02 19:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	EDIT: I found a formula which is almost correct for WEIGHT > 3000, it is:
Mar 02 19:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	Reward = TOTAL * 0.99 * MY_BET * SQRT(LOG(WEIGHT))*WEIGHT^(1/6.0) / Sum_all(winning_bets * SQRT(LOG(WEIGHT))*WEIGHT^(1/6.0))
Mar 02 19:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla dude that's rad.
Mar 02 19:55:20 <kakobrekla>	:DD
Mar 02 19:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	he actually interpolated with logs and whatnot ?!
Mar 02 19:55:33 <kakobrekla>	yeah i was liek wtf mate
Mar 02 19:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	at least he doesn't have cauchy operators in there
Mar 02 19:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	or like, wave functions.
Mar 02 19:56:03 <kakobrekla>	:)
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Mar 02 19:56:18 <kakobrekla>	maybe even rand()
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Mar 02 19:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	stfu giving away secret bitbet sauce like that
Mar 02 19:56:42 <kakobrekla>	;)
Mar 02 19:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	"This is awesome! I didn't even know such an exchange existed."
Mar 02 19:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	reddit.
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Mar 02 20:01:46 <jurov>	maybe that dude ran critticall over bbet data
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Mar 02 20:02:56 <TradeFortress>	reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/c8ol2c0
Mar 02 20:03:01 <mjr_>	lol, this is the best irc channel ever
Mar 02 20:03:18 <mjr_>	someone should really make a tv show about bitcoin...the drama lol
Mar 02 20:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress yea totally.
Mar 02 20:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ it is!
Mar 02 20:04:31 <mjr_>	note to self: start writing pilot based on bitcoins
Mar 02 20:04:46 <jurov>	er... plot?
Mar 02 20:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	jurov like seinfeld.
Mar 02 20:05:00 <mjr_>	no pilot
Mar 02 20:05:18 <mjr_>	pilot episode for people to watch and decide to buy a season
Mar 02 20:05:32 <mjr_>	not that i have ever done that
Mar 02 20:05:40 <mjr_>	but hey how hard can it be right lol
Mar 02 20:05:58 <mjr_>	maybe go straight to netflix or something
Mar 02 20:06:00 <jurov>	i recommend it to involve satoshi building it all only for him be able to raise money for clay mugs workshop and troll around
Mar 02 20:06:04 <mircea_popescu>	i'd like to do a porny show.
Mar 02 20:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be a sitcum
Mar 02 20:06:11 <mjr_>	HAHAHA
Mar 02 20:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	sadly i don't have the time / it doesn't pay enough
Mar 02 20:06:24 <mjr_>	you know what they say...
Mar 02 20:06:42 <mjr_>	the man who does what he loves never works a day in his ligfe
Mar 02 20:06:46 <TradeFortress>	Unexpected token )
Mar 02 20:06:47 <TradeFortress>	fuuu
Mar 02 20:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly, the funny life of this guy who lives with like, 5 chicks.
Mar 02 20:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	that are naked while indoors
Mar 02 20:07:18 <mircea_popescu>	and sometimes outdoors
Mar 02 20:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	and sometimes wear strange contraptions
Mar 02 20:07:36 <mjr_>	if anyone wants to see a really crappy website, feel free to check out btcshares.com
Mar 02 20:07:44 <mjr_>	its basically just a placeholder
Mar 02 20:07:46 <jurov>	and judging from the photos, never wear hair
Mar 02 20:07:46 <mjr_>	for now
Mar 02 20:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	did TradeFortress make it ?
Mar 02 20:07:56 <mjr_>	nope, yours truly
Mar 02 20:08:03 <mjr_>	100% mjr original
Mar 02 20:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	jurov notice that all hair is wet ?
Mar 02 20:08:14 <TradeFortress>	what?
Mar 02 20:08:15 <mjr_>	except for all the copying and pasting
Mar 02 20:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	lmao welcome to donate bitcoin
Mar 02 20:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	that's a concept
Mar 02 20:08:26 <mjr_>	hahaha
Mar 02 20:08:26 <mjr_>	yes
Mar 02 20:08:33 <mjr_>	that is the service i provide
Mar 02 20:08:39 <mjr_>	a place to donate bitcoins to me
Mar 02 20:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	it's also not alligned
Mar 02 20:08:47 <mjr_>	i know
Mar 02 20:08:53 <mjr_>	which is extremely annoying to me
Mar 02 20:09:07 <mjr_>	like i said, placeholder
Mar 02 20:09:19 <mjr_>	i worked on all the backend stuff today
Mar 02 20:09:24 <mjr_>	tomorrow i try to do design stuff
Mar 02 20:09:40 <jurov>	data-address="1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX"
Mar 02 20:09:42 <mjr_>	but i set up twitter, email, admin stuff...and got the website online
Mar 02 20:09:46 <jurov>	i stole ya address
Mar 02 20:09:50 <TradeFortress>	mjr_ doesn't even change the cursor
Mar 02 20:09:52 <mjr_>	tomorrow we design
Mar 02 20:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress just jabbing at you re your forum encounter
Mar 02 20:10:07 <mjr_>	which cursor?
Mar 02 20:10:15 <mjr_>	oh for the donate button?
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Mar 02 20:11:00 <TradeFortress>	yup
Mar 02 20:11:01 <mjr_>	yeah, well, i included that only to try it out
Mar 02 20:11:12 <mjr_>	and cuz i wanted to get the btcshares label for an address
Mar 02 20:11:13 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, lol
Mar 02 20:11:19 <mjr_>	although maybe i will try to get a vanity address
Mar 02 20:11:46 <mjr_>	i made that site in under an hour just to test switching domain stuff and getting dns in order
Mar 02 20:12:01 <mjr_>	like 5 min might be more accurate as far as design and aesthetics
Mar 02 20:12:10 <jurov>	do you sell ads?
Mar 02 20:12:18 <mjr_>	no
Mar 02 20:12:21 <mjr_>	don't plan on it
Mar 02 20:12:33 <mjr_>	i plan on just hosting my performance and financials there
Mar 02 20:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	are you in the wot ?
Mar 02 20:12:39 <mjr_>	eventually
Mar 02 20:12:42 <mjr_>	i am not as of yhet
Mar 02 20:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	do that first.
Mar 02 20:12:58 <mjr_>	good idea
Mar 02 20:13:07 <mjr_>	how do you establish trust though?
Mar 02 20:13:12 <mjr_>	i am not going to trade at all
Mar 02 20:13:16 <mjr_>	i just use exchanges
Mar 02 20:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	performance as financials as to what then ?
Mar 02 20:13:54 <mjr_>	oh, i am getting $ clients
Mar 02 20:14:10 <mjr_>	people who know about bitcoins probbably can figure it out for themselves
Mar 02 20:14:14 <mjr_>	but old people with cash can't
Mar 02 20:14:14 <jurov>	mjr_ if you use coinbr you can ask me to look up. i'll then rate you like "-10 did not pay coinbr monthly fee"
Mar 02 20:14:25 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 02 20:14:26 <mjr_>	true
Mar 02 20:14:40 <mjr_>	although to be fair i paid most of it so far
Mar 02 20:14:42 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ lisrten, that's half of the story. what do you do with the bitcoins ?
Mar 02 20:14:48 <mjr_>	s.dice
Mar 02 20:14:50 <mjr_>	mpoe
Mar 02 20:14:53 <mjr_>	options
Mar 02 20:14:53 <mjr_>	etc
Mar 02 20:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	so suppose one day you loan some shares out to someone
Mar 02 20:15:01 <mjr_>	hopefully lend them
Mar 02 20:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	rated.
Mar 02 20:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	some other day maybe you borrow.
Mar 02 20:15:06 <BitHub>	i currently do this for older or newb people as well
Mar 02 20:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	rated.
Mar 02 20:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Mar 02 20:15:15 <mjr_>	yes very true
Mar 02 20:15:18 <mjr_>	i will need it
Mar 02 20:15:27 <mjr_>	and i will probably eventually need a seat on mpex
Mar 02 20:15:33 <BitHub>	i charge a 10% helpers fee
Mar 02 20:15:58 <mjr_>	i also have a mining operation getting under way
Mar 02 20:16:04 <mjr_>	FPGA's...
Mar 02 20:16:09 <mjr_>	but not little puny ones
Mar 02 20:16:12 <mjr_>	BIG ones
Mar 02 20:16:18 <mjr_>	hoping for 10GH per card
Mar 02 20:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 02 20:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	which cards are these ?
Mar 02 20:16:28 <BitHub>	make sure you try ordering from BFL labs today
Mar 02 20:16:37 <mjr_>	start with 3 cards...not the best, but still half an avalon almost
Mar 02 20:16:43 <mjr_>	Virtex-6's
Mar 02 20:16:56 <mjr_>	way larger than spartans or altera's
Mar 02 20:17:03 <mjr_>	40nm process
Mar 02 20:17:07 <mjr_>	hoping for 10gh per
Mar 02 20:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno if i'd buy new fpga's today tho
Mar 02 20:17:12 <mjr_>	maybe overly optimistic
Mar 02 20:17:15 <mjr_>	lol, buy
Mar 02 20:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	but if used and a good price i guess may be a good deal
Mar 02 20:17:24 <mjr_>	free and sitting around
Mar 02 20:17:29 <mjr_>	no electricity
Mar 02 20:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	o that works
Mar 02 20:17:31 <mjr_>	yep
Mar 02 20:17:37 <jurov>	mjr_ there's sometimes a good deal on -otc too, i got amazon codes, small paypal payments and like
Mar 02 20:17:51 <mjr_>	3 of those, plus maybe one virtex 5 if worth it
Mar 02 20:18:00 <mjr_>	jurov: good point
Mar 02 20:18:13 <mircea_popescu>	he has a point. also, you'd think i'd never trade. yet recently i got like a dozen sa gift certs.
Mar 02 20:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	it was nice and easy
Mar 02 20:18:25 <mjr_>	what is sa?
Mar 02 20:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	some forum
Mar 02 20:18:34 <jurov>	haha
Mar 02 20:18:35 <mjr_>	oh yeah i remember
Mar 02 20:18:38 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 02 20:18:40 <mjr_>	that was funny
Mar 02 20:20:05 <mjr_>	anyways, i have 3 small projects and one big one
Mar 02 20:20:17 <jurov>	the bitch ain't one
Mar 02 20:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Mar 02 20:20:20 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 02 20:20:27 <mjr_>	the fpga miners, the boutique hedge fund, and a bitcoin horseracing sitte
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Mar 02 20:20:48 <mjr_>	the big one...is big
Mar 02 20:20:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]
Mar 02 20:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:651ee0e4570cc2d14ea53173c276c5bce82d794a92202d3779ffbf90
Mar 02 20:21:06 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
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Mar 02 20:21:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate kakobrekla 5 too much stuff to list. inquire within.
Mar 02 20:21:32 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 3 to 5.
Mar 02 20:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated nefario
Mar 02 20:22:15 <gribble>	You rated user nefario on Tue Sep 25 02:55:21 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: runs a scammy btc securities exchange . associated with the bitcoin consultancy scammer group..
Mar 02 20:22:26 <mircea_popescu>	whoa i got him early.
Mar 02 20:22:39 <mjr_>	who is nefario?
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Mar 02 20:23:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated davout
Mar 02 20:23:24 <gribble>	You rated user davout on Sat Dec  8 05:09:24 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: bitcoin-central.net paymium etc.
Mar 02 20:23:28 <jurov>	mjr_ do you know about glbse? he was its owner
Mar 02 20:23:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate davout 3 bitcoin-central.net paymium etc.
Mar 02 20:23:35 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user davout has changed from 1 to 3.
Mar 02 20:23:36 <mjr_>	oh yea
Mar 02 20:23:38 <mjr_>	i heard about that
Mar 02 20:23:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 180 @ 0.006296 = 1.1333 BTC [-]
Mar 02 20:24:05 <mjr_>	asicminer is from there right?
Mar 02 20:24:28 <mjr_>	just starting to get everything back together from what i read
Mar 02 20:25:09 <mjr_>	mircea do you ever use btc-e?
Mar 02 20:25:19 <mjr_>	or anyone else for that matter...
Mar 02 20:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	i never used btc-e
Mar 02 20:26:12 <jurov>	mjr_ only for small litecoin trades
Mar 02 20:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	if i used anything it'd prolly be davout's ting
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Mar 02 20:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated jurov
Mar 02 20:27:07 <gribble>	You rated user jurov on Fri Sep 28 03:13:37 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: runs coinbr.com, MPEx broker website.
Mar 02 20:27:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate jurov 4 runs coinbr.com, MPEx broker website.
Mar 02 20:27:38 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user jurov has changed from 3 to 4.
Mar 02 20:27:47 <mjr_>	lol nice $17 spread
Mar 02 20:28:04 <jurov>	where?
Mar 02 20:28:11 <mjr_>	on bitcoin central
Mar 02 20:28:17 <mjr_>	only ask is at $47
Mar 02 20:28:18 <mircea_popescu>	what srsly ?
Mar 02 20:28:24 <mjr_>	bids at 30
Mar 02 20:28:27 <mjr_>	yep
Mar 02 20:28:28 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ they're euro tho
Mar 02 20:28:30 <mjr_>	no
Mar 02 20:28:35 <mjr_>	i switched to dollars
Mar 02 20:28:38 <mjr_>	oh i get what you mean
Mar 02 20:28:43 <mjr_>	very small dollar volume
Mar 02 20:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	well their dollar market has like... no epth
Mar 02 20:29:18 <mjr_>	ah yeah, their euro book is a lot better
Mar 02 20:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	inexplicably they have little euro depth too
Mar 02 20:29:32 <mjr_>	well yeah, but better than dollar for sure
Mar 02 20:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	but they seem to me more trustworthy than anyone else on the strength of actually getting the bank partnerships right
Mar 02 20:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea why uptake so low.
Mar 02 20:30:10 <mjr_>	well, i hope to change that
Mar 02 20:30:23 <mjr_>	working on an aggregated order book...and then hopefully a routing and matching engine
Mar 02 20:30:28 <mjr_>	that is the big thing
Mar 02 20:31:01 <mjr_>	hoping to get a big source of volume soon
Mar 02 20:31:06 <mjr_>	open up a new market
Mar 02 20:31:20 <mjr_>	and need to provide a steady access to all markets to convince them
Mar 02 20:32:01 <mjr_>	that is basically what my company already does for equity markets in US
Mar 02 20:32:06 <mjr_>	routing and flow
Mar 02 20:32:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.00996 = 0.1992 BTC [-]
Mar 02 20:32:18 <mjr_>	buy from this dark pool, sell on that one
Mar 02 20:32:19 <mjr_>	etc
Mar 02 20:32:42 <mjr_>	so if someone would just do that for btc it would make everyone's lives a lot easier
Mar 02 20:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	you can probably handle it on otc if you know the rifght people
Mar 02 20:34:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.008299 = 0.0581 BTC [-]
Mar 02 20:34:22 <mircea_popescu>	which is what makes your wot suddenly crucial for your success.
Mar 02 20:34:30 <mjr_>	well, its all about automating it
Mar 02 20:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	not until you've made your contacts it isn't.
Mar 02 20:35:19 <mjr_>	well, my partner is working on the order flow
Mar 02 20:35:28 <mjr_>	and we already have some sick back end infrastructure
Mar 02 20:35:35 <mjr_>	data center colocation etc
Mar 02 20:35:48 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is primarily about who you know.
Mar 02 20:35:55 <mjr_>	and some really nice enterprise level matching engine and algorithmic trading unit
Mar 02 20:36:01 <mjr_>	and yes it
Mar 02 20:36:02 <mjr_>	is
Mar 02 20:36:11 <mjr_>	i def do need WoT
Mar 02 20:36:17 <mjr_>	can i work on it tomorrow?
Mar 02 20:36:22 <mjr_>	if you guys are around?
Mar 02 20:36:34 <jurov>	tomorrow is sunday, we're closed
Mar 02 20:36:59 <jurov>	:P
Mar 02 20:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol you just need the bot
Mar 02 20:37:19 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 02 20:37:26 <mjr_>	i mean, what address should i use?
Mar 02 20:37:44 <mjr_>	should i maintain a separate one for business and personal?
Mar 02 20:38:14 <jurov>	mjr_ i think most of us have one common address/privkey
Mar 02 20:39:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.66 = 9.9 BTC [-]
Mar 02 20:39:20 <jurov>	and it isn't clear to me why/how would you want to manage separate webs of trust
Mar 02 20:40:11 <mjr_>	well
Mar 02 20:40:33 <mjr_>	i mean as long as i run my business it would be important for me to have a high wot rating
Mar 02 20:40:42 <mjr_>	but if i were to leave...i couldn't leave it to someone else
Mar 02 20:40:44 <BitHub>	it depends
Mar 02 20:40:46 <mjr_>	could i?
Mar 02 20:40:56 <BitHub>	is your business pandering hard to the community or mainstream?
Mar 02 20:41:01 <mjr_>	mainstream
Mar 02 20:41:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.0007449 = 8.29 BTC [+]
Mar 02 20:41:10 <BitHub>	then i wouldn't worry about WOT so much
Mar 02 20:41:15 <mjr_>	well, still important
Mar 02 20:41:22 <BitHub>	to the community
Mar 02 20:41:23 <mjr_>	even from marketing perspective
Mar 02 20:41:27 <BitHub>	mainstream have no clue about it
Mar 02 20:41:30 <mjr_>	of course
Mar 02 20:41:36 <mjr_>	but you know how people list stuff on websites
Mar 02 20:41:42 <mjr_>	and i may need to do stuff using otc
Mar 02 20:41:54 <BitHub>	yeah
Mar 02 20:42:00 <mjr_>	but would rather my corporate persona was the one who had the trust
Mar 02 20:42:11 <mjr_>	i don't plan on doing a lot personally
Mar 02 20:42:14 <BitHub>	don't get caught up in a rating war tho
Mar 02 20:42:20 <mjr_>	yeah
Mar 02 20:42:21 <BitHub>	could be damaging to business rep
Mar 02 20:42:24 <mjr_>	true
Mar 02 20:42:32 <mjr_>	like i said, i haven't used otc yet
Mar 02 20:42:40 <mjr_>	and maybe i might toy with it
Mar 02 20:42:49 <mjr_>	but i want computers to deal with stuff like that
Mar 02 20:43:03 <jurov>	we'll see how it goes. dunno if there was anyone who maintained corporate persona on wot
Mar 02 20:43:04 <mjr_>	the matching engine and such
Mar 02 20:43:15 <mjr_>	yeah, i kind of like how it is very personal here
Mar 02 20:43:15 <BitHub>	yeah there's no point
Mar 02 20:43:29 <BitHub>	better off having a customer feedback thing on your site or osmething
Mar 02 20:43:42 <BitHub>	quotes from mainstream professionals
Mar 02 20:43:49 <mjr_>	well, as i said, my goal is to be a layer between a big mainstream source and a bunch of exchanges
Mar 02 20:43:58 <BitHub>	"wow this site is really good" Mark Cuban
Mar 02 20:44:08 <mjr_>	ideally the mainstream end users wouldn't even be aware of me
Mar 02 20:44:08 <BitHub>	compared to
Mar 02 20:44:17 <BitHub>	+1 yeah we had a good trade - BitHub
Mar 02 20:44:19 <mjr_>	there are some companies that have 20-30k accounts
Mar 02 20:44:34 <mjr_>	and all those guys do is trade forex
Mar 02 20:44:47 <mjr_>	but they would need a STRONG source of liquidity
Mar 02 20:44:53 <mjr_>	and the best bids and asks
Mar 02 20:45:09 <BitHub>	BitHub is currently building infrastructure, investing and networking within the Bitcoin community and the Mainstream to bridge the two together to provide a very straight forward, trustworthy, professional services.
Mar 02 20:45:29 <mjr_>	and enterprise level hardware with some big financial people behind it
Mar 02 20:45:38 <mjr_>	yeah that is the goal right
Mar 02 20:46:01 <mjr_>	i have been disheartened by how hard it is for people on wall street to get in the game
Mar 02 20:46:06 <mjr_>	for example
Mar 02 20:46:17 <mjr_>	traders at my firm have half a mill to play with at work
Mar 02 20:46:19 <BitHub>	isn't it about to get alot easier for them
Mar 02 20:46:22 <BitHub>	via coinlab
Mar 02 20:46:28 <mjr_>	yeah...believe it when i see it
Mar 02 20:46:41 <BitHub>	or tell your wall street buddies to buy into a bitcoin company
Mar 02 20:46:43 <mjr_>	not to mention...it would just be a mt gox pass through
Mar 02 20:46:52 <mjr_>	prop traders
Mar 02 20:46:56 <mjr_>	they don't own their positions
Mar 02 20:47:01 <mjr_>	and they trade with high leverage
Mar 02 20:47:04 <mjr_>	intra day
Mar 02 20:47:11 <BitHub>	that's where you come in my friend as a Bitcoin Broker and you do it for these people and charge them a broker fee
Mar 02 20:47:12 <mjr_>	they couldn't invest outside of work
Mar 02 20:47:15 <BitHub>	don't teach them
Mar 02 20:47:19 <mjr_>	yes
Mar 02 20:47:23 <mjr_>	true
Mar 02 20:47:34 <mjr_>	but they can't press buttons to make bitcoins appear on their screens
Mar 02 20:47:40 <BitHub>	outsource some helpers from china
Mar 02 20:47:59 <mjr_>	and till someone makes it so that you can use etrade (def not what we use) or like a sterling or laser type platform
Mar 02 20:48:04 <BitHub>	they don't need to, they just go to your site, type in a code or whatever and can see their balance
Mar 02 20:48:06 <mjr_>	professional traders can't get involved
Mar 02 20:48:21 <mjr_>	i mean, their accounts with their money can't connect to my website
Mar 02 20:48:31 <mjr_>	and it isn't really their website
Mar 02 20:48:37 <mjr_>	i mean their money
Mar 02 20:48:46 <mjr_>	they get to trade with 20x or more leverage
Mar 02 20:48:54 <BitHub>	cant you set up your own bank account and get these people to dump the fiat in there?
Mar 02 20:48:58 <mjr_>	but they leave all that at the office
Mar 02 20:49:01 <BitHub>	and then you make the bitcoin buys for them?
Mar 02 20:49:06 <mjr_>	i would love to
Mar 02 20:49:07 <mjr_>	but again
Mar 02 20:49:15 <mjr_>	basically they have to use their trading accounts
Mar 02 20:49:32 <mjr_>	and their trading accounts connect to nyse, nasdaq, edgea, edgex, bats etc
Mar 02 20:49:40 <mjr_>	so they can buy stuff from there
Mar 02 20:49:43 <mjr_>	and that's all
Mar 02 20:49:49 <BitHub>	i see
Mar 02 20:49:54 <jurov>	mjr_ have you seen bit4x.com or 1broker.com ?
Mar 02 20:49:54 <mjr_>	and that is how most of finance is
Mar 02 20:50:15 <BitHub>	so you need a bitcoin platform that can kind of plug into that exisiting platform?
Mar 02 20:50:54 <mjr_>	yes
Mar 02 20:51:01 <BitHub>	because they're using their coporate trading accounts
Mar 02 20:51:02 <mjr_>	i need them to be able to plug in bloomberg
Mar 02 20:51:06 <mjr_>	or whatever
Mar 02 20:51:07 <BitHub>	which is like really big money
Mar 02 20:51:09 <mjr_>	yes
Mar 02 20:51:20 <mjr_>	if they open up their own accounts it might be 500
Mar 02 20:51:30 <mjr_>	their professional accounts might be over 1 mill
Mar 02 20:51:32 <BitHub>	500g's?
Mar 02 20:51:33 <BitHub>	jesus
Mar 02 20:51:38 <mjr_>	no $500
Mar 02 20:51:42 <BitHub>	oh
Mar 02 20:51:44 <mjr_>	traders don't do it at home
Mar 02 20:51:50 <mjr_>	or maybe a little
Mar 02 20:52:01 <mjr_>	but again typically with their 401k or their investment account
Mar 02 20:52:10 <mjr_>	the goal for me is to not make them open up a new account
Mar 02 20:52:11 <thestringpuller>	what the fuck are you all on about?
Mar 02 20:52:15 <BitHub>	hmmm follow the coinlab stuff
Mar 02 20:52:18 <mjr_>	but rather give them something to buy with their existing accounts
Mar 02 20:52:28 <mjr_>	i've been watching
Mar 02 20:52:55 <BitHub>	maybe you can act as a broker for them via that site
Mar 02 20:53:05 <BitHub>	so they only have to deal with you
Mar 02 20:53:13 <mjr_>	too long; didn't read: wall street professionals don't open up new accounts for all their trades, they use their existing high margin accounts
Mar 02 20:53:27 <mjr_>	that's the goal for the platform, plug into existing infrastructure
Mar 02 20:53:38 <mjr_>	and become the gateway for that infrastructure to the bitcoin world
Mar 02 20:54:05 <BitHub>	but the exisiting infrastructure its not like you could plug gox right into it yeah?
Mar 02 20:54:10 <mjr_>	nope
Mar 02 20:54:13 <mjr_>	not as of yet
Mar 02 20:54:17 <BitHub>	there's alot of licences, government approval wallstreet approval etc etc
Mar 02 20:54:22 <mjr_>	well yeah
Mar 02 20:54:29 <Ukto>	BitHub: I wouldtn btoher with coinlab
Mar 02 20:54:32 <mjr_>	but it is mostly a matter of getting the deal
Mar 02 20:54:35 <Ukto>	there will be other options for gox
Mar 02 20:54:38 <Ukto>	before their thing hits
Mar 02 20:54:39 <mjr_>	yeah
Mar 02 20:54:44 <Ukto>	trust me on this. ;)
Mar 02 20:54:44 <BitHub>	Ukto ;)
Mar 02 20:54:55 <mjr_>	my point is that everyone doesn't use nasdaq to trade aapl
Mar 02 20:54:56 <BitHub>	we talked about it yesterday
Mar 02 20:55:05 <mjr_>	even though aapl is listed on nasdaq
Mar 02 20:55:20 <mjr_>	i can buy aapl on any one of a ton of differrent venues
Mar 02 20:55:35 <mjr_>	and they all have different fees, volume, prices
Mar 02 20:55:43 <mjr_>	so i can pick and choose
Mar 02 20:55:59 <mjr_>	so someone has to offer choices and volume
Mar 02 20:56:06 <mjr_>	its a long tough road i think
Mar 02 20:56:18 <mjr_>	which is why i am more excited abvout my small easy projects
Mar 02 20:56:27 <mjr_>	which are already coming together
Mar 02 20:56:33 <mjr_>	lol build a miner
Mar 02 20:57:03 <mjr_>	when i showed a trader what i was doing, he was like "why aren't you scalping this all day, like do it right now"
Mar 02 20:57:06 <BitHub>	so i dont understand the problem
Mar 02 20:57:14 <BitHub>	why they cant buy bitcoins using their coporate accounts
Mar 02 20:57:25 <mjr_>	well
Mar 02 20:57:28 <mjr_>	lets go through it
Mar 02 20:57:38 <mjr_>	of course they have no way of sending an electronic order
Mar 02 20:57:42 <mjr_>	so let's say they call me
Mar 02 20:57:45 <mjr_>	because they trust me
Mar 02 20:57:51 <BitHub>	or do an order via your site
Mar 02 20:57:56 <BitHub>	if you had a live chat option like i do
Mar 02 20:57:59 <mjr_>	and say hey, i wanna get 1000 btc right now, what kind of price am i looking at?
Mar 02 20:58:14 <mjr_>	let's assume i actually had the market data to tell them
Mar 02 20:58:22 <mjr_>	looking at all the exchanges and finding the best price
Mar 02 20:58:22 <BitHub>	okey
Mar 02 20:58:28 <mjr_>	ok, i wanna buy it
Mar 02 20:58:32 <mjr_>	give me the money
Mar 02 20:58:34 <BitHub>	it would probably just be based on mtgox price
Mar 02 20:58:50 <mjr_>	ok, well, i have to wire the money out of my account, and then i have to wire you the money
Mar 02 20:59:01 <mjr_>	ok see you in 5 days then
Mar 02 20:59:08 <mjr_>	see the problem?
Mar 02 20:59:09 <BitHub>	you cant float it for him?
Mar 02 20:59:15 <mjr_>	i suppose i could
Mar 02 20:59:21 <BitHub>	lul
Mar 02 20:59:24 <mjr_>	but not at that amount
Mar 02 20:59:32 <mjr_>	and not in any way that would make me money
Mar 02 20:59:50 <mjr_>	the point is to be able to use the existing accounts so i don't hve to worry about their funding
Mar 02 20:59:53 <BitHub>	start off baby steps
Mar 02 21:00:00 <BitHub>	start with 1000 dollar limit maybe
Mar 02 21:00:00 <mjr_>	since funding is always the worst part of bitcoin trading
Mar 02 21:00:23 <mjr_>	mt. gox...10+ days to verify using dwolla
Mar 02 21:00:35 <BitHub>	let me tell you a secret
Mar 02 21:00:47 <BitHub>	i buy outside of mtgox and its always cheaper than the current market price at that time
Mar 02 21:00:50 *	Ukto pokes BitHub
Mar 02 21:00:51 <mjr_>	and again, they just did a trade with their own money and it didn't really relate to their job at all
Mar 02 21:01:01 <mjr_>	yeah of course
Mar 02 21:01:10 <mjr_>	but speed is the key here
Mar 02 21:01:23 <mjr_>	and also, your P&L will show your account
Mar 02 21:01:36 <mjr_>	not what you do with some person outside of the system
Mar 02 21:02:08 <mjr_>	ie. you want to have this be a trade done as part of their profession, not as a side job or something
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Mar 02 21:02:15 <BitHub>	you need direct relationships with miners
Mar 02 21:02:19 <mjr_>	true
Mar 02 21:02:28 <mjr_>	that is the synergy with the fpga project i have going on
Mar 02 21:02:30 <BitHub>	or set up a seperate branch to your company that's strickly a bitcoin mining company
Mar 02 21:02:37 <mjr_>	if i can get the equivalent of half an avalon
Mar 02 21:02:43 <mjr_>	it'll be a nice little start
Mar 02 21:02:53 <mjr_>	but suffice it to say
Mar 02 21:02:53 <BitHub>	and you can start writing off equipment and electricity against your bitcoin mining company
Mar 02 21:03:05 <mjr_>	lol, no cost equipment or electricity
Mar 02 21:03:15 <mjr_>	but yeah
Mar 02 21:03:17 <mjr_>	i see your point
Mar 02 21:03:24 <mjr_>	what i am planning on doing
Mar 02 21:03:29 <mjr_>	and what we are working on
Mar 02 21:03:43 <mjr_>	is a symbol on a platform where people already trade dollars, euros, pounds and yen
Mar 02 21:03:55 <mjr_>	so now it is dollars, euros, pounds yen and bitcoins
Mar 02 21:04:19 <mjr_>	ie. i don't have to worry abourt your funding, or settlement, i just worry about executing orders against the bitcoin exchanges
Mar 02 21:04:24 <mjr_>	and collecting fees
Mar 02 21:04:52 <BitHub>	sounds good
Mar 02 21:04:53 <thestringpuller>	I'm taking preorders for bitcoin beer.
Mar 02 21:04:54 <mjr_>	their forex company, who has said they are interested, would take care of the accounts, but they would offer one more symbol for their traders
Mar 02 21:04:57 <BitHub>	so you're actually working on software?
Mar 02 21:05:12 <mjr_>	we have a top tier software system in place
Mar 02 21:05:14 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 02 21:05:35 <mjr_>	my boss at my day job called it "a ferrari on a dirt road" lol
Mar 02 21:05:46 <BitHub>	haha nice
Mar 02 21:05:58 <BitHub>	sounds good and a bit crazy what you're doing, keep my updated :)
Mar 02 21:05:59 <BitHub>	me
Mar 02 21:06:29 <mjr_>	yeah, but it basically would have like a matching engine so say account #25671 wants to buy and account #12543 wants to sell, it can match them internally, saving us the fees from mt. gox or wherever
Mar 02 21:06:35 <mjr_>	that is internalization
Mar 02 21:06:54 <mjr_>	with 30k accounts...we can prob do quite a bit of internalization
Mar 02 21:07:17 <mjr_>	and with volume, we can lower our rates at gox, and cut better deals with others
Mar 02 21:07:34 <BitHub>	just you know whatever you do, don't let those guys ruin bitcoin hey?
Mar 02 21:07:41 <mjr_>	of course not
Mar 02 21:07:48 <mjr_>	i want them to see this as an introduction
Mar 02 21:07:53 <mjr_>	so they start using it in everyday life
Mar 02 21:08:05 <mjr_>	AND, if it works, get interviewed on CNBC
Mar 02 21:08:06 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 02 21:08:09 <BitHub>	:)
Mar 02 21:08:10 <mjr_>	and that day
Mar 02 21:08:20 <mjr_>	my little boutique tiny hedge fund will post some amazing gains
Mar 02 21:08:22 <BitHub>	how far off are you?
Mar 02 21:08:24 <BitHub>	1 year?
Mar 02 21:08:37 <mjr_>	well...not sure, we got the software and the servers and the location
Mar 02 21:09:02 <mjr_>	my partner/boss is meeting with those guys for our company (day job) but also selling them on this idea (our own side thing)
Mar 02 21:09:07 <BitHub>	based in the usa?
Mar 02 21:09:11 <mjr_>	NYC
Mar 02 21:09:22 *	BitHub slaps head
Mar 02 21:09:25 <mjr_>	so, if our deal goes through
Mar 02 21:09:27 <BitHub>	yeah of course heh nyc exchange
Mar 02 21:09:30 <mjr_>	for my day job
Mar 02 21:09:40 <mjr_>	it is fairly reasonable odds that this other thing goes through
Mar 02 21:09:51 <mjr_>	providing we can deliver a stable good source of liquidity to them
Mar 02 21:10:02 <mjr_>	so i am mostly working on that right now
Mar 02 21:10:25 <mjr_>	i think its probably 50/50 at best that it'd done in a year
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Mar 02 21:10:26 <mircea_popescu>	what's your idea of liquidity ?
Mar 02 21:10:39 <mjr_>	depends, i am not exactly sure what the demand would be
Mar 02 21:10:56 <BitHub>	i'm still a startup myself trying to figure this stuff out, based in Australia / Asia check us out sometime - bithub.asia bithub.com.au bithub.biz
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Mar 02 21:11:37 <mjr_>	but ideally, they could move large amounts of money relatively quickly and without too much slippage
Mar 02 21:11:52 <mjr_>	very cool BitHub
Mar 02 21:12:06 <mjr_>	i'm definitely hoping to partner with people in some way or another in the future
Mar 02 21:12:14 <mjr_>	if they can provide access to markets
Mar 02 21:12:37 <mjr_>	i would really like to work with bitfloor since they are NYC based, but i would like to have routes everywhere
Mar 02 21:12:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 21:13:09 <mjr_>	also i could hopefully leave orders on bitfloors books to get liquidity rebates
Mar 02 21:13:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.006296 = 1.574 BTC [-]
Mar 02 21:14:40 <BitHub>	btw does anyone have any of those ASICMINER shares?
Mar 02 21:14:56 <jurov>	here someone was offering just few hrs ago
Mar 02 21:15:15 <jurov>	<TradeFortress> Selling up to 100 ASICMINER shares, pm me with offers.
Mar 02 21:15:43 <mjr_>	darn
Mar 02 21:15:48 <mjr_>	i missed that
Mar 02 21:15:52 <mjr_>	actually talked to him too
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Mar 02 21:16:00 <mjr_>	i would love to pick up some
Mar 02 21:16:33 <mjr_>	lol whats funny is that that company is more like a private equity thing than public company
Mar 02 21:16:47 <mjr_>	people always making back room deals and stuff
Mar 02 21:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-february-2013-statement/
Mar 02 21:16:53 <mircea_popescu>	updated with nice graph
Mar 02 21:17:51 <BitHub>	mjr i'm all about partnering up and collaboration if you want help or access to australian/asian markets in the future, lets hook it up :)
Mar 02 21:18:27 <mjr_>	k guys gotta run
Mar 02 21:18:30 <mjr_>	def
Mar 02 21:18:37 <mjr_>	good talking to you all
Mar 02 21:18:43 <mjr_>	best channel on IRC bar none
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Mar 02 21:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	jurov for my curiosity, the guy on reddit that "couldn't waiot" till another nonfee exchange opened
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Mar 02 21:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	and then got all excited about coinbr
Mar 02 21:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	did he perchance actually make an account ?
Mar 02 21:24:29 <jurov>	maybe, he did not let me know
Mar 02 21:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	twitter "Why do the same people that say A baby in the womb is not life Say bacteria is considered "life" on Mars?"
Mar 02 21:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	me "Because there's plenty of wombs and scarcely any bacteria on Mars. Abundance cheapens."
Mar 02 21:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kC5MT2r5U8s/TBk0BAwNKkI/AAAAAAAAPLw/5wYilxC2V2c/s1600/nuke+explosion.jpg
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Mar 02 21:33:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 21:41:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 24 @ 0.00643 = 0.1543 BTC [+]
Mar 02 21:42:16 <TradeFortress>	^ lol
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Mar 02 21:48:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 22:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00580008 = 5.8001 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00580007 = 2.9 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:08:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00580006 = 2.9 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 38 @ 0.00580004 = 0.2204 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00580004 = 2.9 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00580002 = 11.6 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00580002 = 29.0001 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00577614 = 11.5523 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:08:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00569655 = 11.3931 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550002 = 5.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:08:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:10:40 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Mar 02 22:11:13 <kakobrekla>	maybe that ian baked got some shares to sell
Mar 02 22:11:27 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 02 22:11:48 <Bugpowder>	.0055 pre div is pretty nice
Mar 02 22:11:59 <Bugpowder>	wish I had a bid up
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Mar 02 22:15:48 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: he wants a large price :)
Mar 02 22:16:00 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Mar 02 22:16:03 <Ukto>	ian
Mar 02 22:16:13 <kakobrekla>	how much does he want?
Mar 02 22:16:35 <Ukto>	was very high is what I was told
Mar 02 22:17:28 <kakobrekla>	no number?
Mar 02 22:17:38 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/l/uy/1RdE4K2G/sdice.png
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Mar 02 22:18:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00077011 = 7.7011 BTC [+]
Mar 02 22:18:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00077012 = 0.3851 BTC [+]
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Mar 02 22:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0055 = 2.2 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 22:19:48 <thestringpuller>	Ukto
Mar 02 22:19:50 <thestringpuller>	You stole my coins
Mar 02 22:19:54 <Ukto>	0,o
Mar 02 22:19:55 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating Ukto
Mar 02 22:19:55 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Ukto, rated since Tue Jun 14 21:24:56 2011. Cumulative rating 17, from 12 total ratings. Received ratings: 12 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Ukto
Mar 02 22:20:03 <Ukto>	I deed?
Mar 02 22:20:07 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
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Mar 02 22:21:01 <Ukto>	hehe
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Mar 02 22:22:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00076144 = 1.4467 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 22:35:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00500051 = 10.001 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 23879 @ 0.0050005 = 119.4069 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:35:44 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 02 22:35:46 <Bugpowder>	YES
Mar 02 22:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0055 = 3.3 BTC [+]
Mar 02 22:35:56 <pizzaman1337>	why yes?
Mar 02 22:36:03 <Bugpowder>	my bid got hit
Mar 02 22:36:07 <pizzaman1337>	ah
Mar 02 22:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [+]
Mar 02 22:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16121 @ 0.0050005 = 80.6131 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:36:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00500002 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00500001 = 2 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:36:45 <pizzaman1337>	when do S.DICE divs come out?
Mar 02 22:36:52 <Bugpowder>	soon
Mar 02 22:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 40000 @ 0.0050005 = 200.02 BTC [+]
Mar 02 22:37:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00500002 = 5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:37:43 <Bugpowder>	oh shyt
Mar 02 22:37:52 <pizzaman1337>	that's a lot of movement
Mar 02 22:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 02 22:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00500001 / 0.00529899 / 0.0063777 (116945 shares, 619.69 BTC), 7D: 0.00500001 / 0.00595337 / 0.0063799 (353812 shares, 2,106.38 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.0060038 / 0.007395 (6898878 shares, 41,419.50 BTC)
Mar 02 22:38:15 <Bugpowder>	I'm out of powder
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Mar 02 22:38:25 <pizzaman1337>	just don't run out of bugs
Mar 02 22:38:32 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 02 22:38:47 <Bugpowder>	will it actually dump below .005?
Mar 02 22:39:03 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/k/IK/1ptRixZ7/sdice.png
Mar 02 22:39:12 <kakobrekla>	its fun to watch rt :)
Mar 02 22:39:13 <Bugpowder>	Even with no whale, I think S.DICE is worth .005
Mar 02 22:39:31 <mircea_popescu>	pts are missing out lol
Mar 02 22:39:31 <kakobrekla>	at least mpex is not closed on the weekend, right pizzaman1337 ;)
Mar 02 22:39:48 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: yeah, rest of the world is closed
Mar 02 22:39:52 <Bugpowder>	;;calc .000133/.005
Mar 02 22:39:52 <gribble>	0.0266
Mar 02 22:40:50 <pizzaman1337>	is that what percentage the dividend will be if the price is at 5?
Mar 02 22:41:14 <Bugpowder>	yes
Mar 02 22:41:33 <Bugpowder>	I also believe that the whale lives
Mar 02 22:41:52 <Bugpowder>	with a different address allocation strategy
Mar 02 22:42:19 <mircea_popescu>	remarkably sparse book on s.dice
Mar 02 22:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	0.00637769	64`615  / 13`131	0.00444440
Mar 02 22:42:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:42:45 <Bugpowder>	damn
Mar 02 22:42:51 <Bugpowder>	need more coins
Mar 02 22:43:02 <pizzaman1337>	don't we all
Mar 02 22:43:02 <Bugpowder>	someone really wants to dump a big load
Mar 02 22:43:09 <Bugpowder>	but not below .005
Mar 02 22:43:24 <Bugpowder>	aha
Mar 02 22:43:36 <Bugpowder>	the 637k ask wall is gone
Mar 02 22:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	ya seems like someone putting in a wall at 50 would prolly get a good chunk
Mar 02 22:43:40 <Bugpowder>	must be that guy
Mar 02 22:43:44 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: "How you gonna choke a legend ? You don't think I want to choke people ? You can't just choke all your problems, it takes hard work. If I had my way, I'd never work. I could stay home all day watch Scarface 50 times, eat a turkey sandwich and have sex all fuckin day. Then I'd dress up like a clown and surprise kids at schools. Then I'd take a dump in the back of a movie theater and just wait til s
Mar 02 22:43:58 <Bugpowder>	yup
Mar 02 22:44:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:44:12 <Bugpowder>	I'm gonna be sad if he drops to .004
Mar 02 22:44:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4537 @ 0.00077012 = 3.494 BTC [+]
Mar 02 22:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5963 @ 0.00077014 = 4.5923 BTC [+]
Mar 02 22:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:44:29 <Bugpowder>	quick someone by the fucking x.idiff.mar
Mar 02 22:44:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:44:40 <Bugpowder>	I'm selling for fucking .0599
Mar 02 22:44:45 <Bugpowder>	a steal
Mar 02 22:44:46 <thestringpuller>	what's your X.IDIFF priced?
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Mar 02 22:44:57 <mircea_popescu>	how;'s it gonna get to 6mn ?!
Mar 02 22:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	it has one retarget till then, and it's not going up 200%
Mar 02 22:45:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6431 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:45:14 <Bugpowder>	SHUT UP
Mar 02 22:45:16 <Bugpowder>	!!
Mar 02 22:45:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 02 22:45:23 <Bugpowder>	It could retarget twice
Mar 02 22:45:35 <Bugpowder>	if the hash rate really ramps up
Mar 02 22:45:36 <mircea_popescu>	well sure, if we go to like 50 Ph
Mar 02 22:45:46 <Bugpowder>	only really needs to double
Mar 02 22:45:57 <Bugpowder>	right after next diff
Mar 02 22:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	next diff is in like 2 weeks-ish
Mar 02 22:46:41 <Bugpowder>	yes
Mar 02 22:46:43 <pigeons>	;;estimate
Mar 02 22:46:43 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4555697.65506 based on data since last change | 4400318.08082 based on data for last three days
Mar 02 22:46:44 <Bugpowder>	Mar 14
Mar 02 22:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:46:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:46:50 <Bugpowder>	oh  fuk
Mar 02 22:46:54 <pigeons>	;;nextdiff
Mar 02 22:46:54 <gribble>	Error: "nextdiff" is not a valid command.
Mar 02 22:47:14 <Bugpowder>	he is gonna dump
Mar 02 22:47:18 <Bugpowder>	I can feel it
Mar 02 22:47:19 <kakobrekla>	no
Mar 02 22:47:26 <kakobrekla>	dude leave 100 shares
Mar 02 22:47:28 <kakobrekla>	leaves
Mar 02 22:47:30 <kakobrekla>	each time
Mar 02 22:47:31 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 02 22:47:38 <kakobrekla>	at 5
Mar 02 22:48:00 <kakobrekla>	well maybe he is going to lose patience
Mar 02 22:48:06 <kakobrekla>	lets get ready or smth
Mar 02 22:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	back to .00008
Mar 02 22:48:20 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e da fguck it was
Mar 02 22:49:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.643 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:49:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.642001 = 1.284 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:50:22 <pizzaman1337>	let's have some fun, I put 1 S.DICE buy on the book... maybe he'll take it :)
Mar 02 22:50:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00500001 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:50:52 <kakobrekla>	im setting a few
Mar 02 22:50:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 99 @ 0.00500001 = 0.495 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:50:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00500001 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:50:54 <pizzaman1337>	:D
Mar 02 22:50:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00500001 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:51:02 <Bugpowder>	heh
Mar 02 22:51:12 <Bugpowder>	won't go below .005
Mar 02 22:51:19 <Bugpowder>	lets test his will
Mar 02 22:51:20 <pizzaman1337>	or below 0.00500001
Mar 02 22:51:47 <kakobrekla>	see again he left 100 sitting there
Mar 02 22:51:51 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 02 22:51:54 <kakobrekla>	lets pull a trick
Mar 02 22:52:05 <Bugpowder>	that's weird
Mar 02 22:52:09 <Bugpowder>	that is botlink
Mar 02 22:52:12 <Bugpowder>	botlike
Mar 02 22:52:17 <kakobrekla>	nah
Mar 02 22:52:23 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: is that your 0.00499999?
Mar 02 22:52:27 <Bugpowder>	mine
Mar 02 22:52:30 <Bugpowder>	:)
Mar 02 22:52:45 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Mar 02 22:52:46 <kakobrekla>	let me try smth see if it works
Mar 02 22:52:47 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 223988 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1803 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 0 hours, 28 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4550550.25106 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.18222
Mar 02 22:52:55 <thestringpuller>	wow
Mar 02 22:53:15 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if like 20 years from now when s.dice is like better than microsoft
Mar 02 22:53:20 <Bugpowder>	500,000 shadow S.DICE shares being sold at .005
Mar 02 22:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	people will look back to like, 10k btc pizza moment
Mar 02 22:54:20 <Bugpowder>	http://heliacal.net/~solar/bitcoin/pizza/
Mar 02 22:54:25 <pizzaman1337>	nobody is keeping track of trades, are they? Besides on twitter
Mar 02 22:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00500001 = 2 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:54:33 <Bugpowder>	oooo
Mar 02 22:54:55 <Bugpowder>	tempted to deposit
Mar 02 22:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00500001 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:55:55 <kakobrekla>	fuck
Mar 02 22:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	wha ?
Mar 02 22:56:02 <kakobrekla>	i missed it
Mar 02 22:56:14 <kakobrekla>	that cocksucker leaves 100 shares there
Mar 02 22:56:17 <kakobrekla>	from the last order
Mar 02 22:56:23 <kakobrekla>	i wanted to get mine hit and cancel it
Mar 02 22:56:26 <kakobrekla>	before new one comes
Mar 02 22:56:30 <kakobrekla>	so there is nothing at 5
Mar 02 22:56:36 <kakobrekla>	was too late
Mar 02 22:56:50 <kakobrekla>	somebody placed it after me and mine leftover was hit
Mar 02 22:56:56 <kakobrekla>	now someone else has a leftover
Mar 02 22:57:15 <pigeons>	ok canceled it
Mar 02 22:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 02 22:57:19 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Mar 02 22:57:21 <kakobrekla>	i see
Mar 02 22:57:48 <kakobrekla>	now lets see if he drops
Mar 02 22:57:48 <pizzaman1337>	I wonder if the seller is in this room, watching amused
Mar 02 22:57:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.005 = 2 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	ok time to rollback all trades
Mar 02 22:58:50 <thestringpuller>	stop cheating
Mar 02 22:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 02 22:59:21 <Bugpowder>	my .00499999 gonna get hit?
Mar 02 22:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00499999 BTC [-]
Mar 02 22:59:48 <kakobrekla>	THERE
Mar 02 22:59:48 <Bugpowder>	oh my
Mar 02 22:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 02 23:00:10 <Bugpowder>	who bought it?
Mar 02 23:00:16 <Bugpowder>	SHOW YOURSELF
Mar 02 23:00:32 <kakobrekla>	you did?
Mar 02 23:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00599993 BTC [+]
Mar 02 23:00:41 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Mar 02 23:00:44 <Bugpowder>	BOUNCE
Mar 02 23:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 02 23:01:10 <pizzaman1337>	that was the share I bought earlier
Mar 02 23:01:10 <kakobrekla>	scalpin the mpex spread with 1sd share
Mar 02 23:01:12 <pizzaman1337>	profit! :P
Mar 02 23:01:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0048 BTC [-]
Mar 02 23:01:20 <kakobrekla>	a
Mar 02 23:01:23 <Bugpowder>	now its getting serious
Mar 02 23:01:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00599994 BTC [+]
Mar 02 23:01:34 <Bugpowder>	who is trolling
Mar 02 23:01:37 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 02 23:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	dudes keep filling my db with bs
Mar 02 23:01:52 <thestringpuller>	fuck yo db
Mar 02 23:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	ima implement the eu tx fee
Mar 02 23:02:03 <pizzaman1337>	no, that'd be lame
Mar 02 23:02:07 <mircea_popescu>	except keep the proceeds for buying ho's skimpy outfits
Mar 02 23:02:40 <pizzaman1337>	you need to distribute those outfits among shareholders
Mar 02 23:03:09 <pigeons>	prolly wont fit me tho
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Mar 02 23:03:50 <kakobrekla>	100@0.00500001
Mar 02 23:03:57 <kakobrekla>	im thinking its himself.
Mar 02 23:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	ha
Mar 02 23:04:12 <mircea_popescu>	that's a thought, somebody trying to cause a panic to load up
Mar 02 23:04:16 <Bugpowder>	most likely
Mar 02 23:04:25 <Bugpowder>	nah
Mar 02 23:04:29 <Bugpowder>	not a panic
Mar 02 23:04:30 <pizzaman1337>	right before a div?
Mar 02 23:04:33 <Bugpowder>	but the 100 bid
Mar 02 23:04:38 <kakobrekla>	ya
Mar 02 23:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder nah ?! that's exactly what you would say
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Mar 02 23:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	IF YOU WERE DOING IT
Mar 02 23:04:52 <mircea_popescu>	konspiraci
Mar 02 23:04:56 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 02 23:05:28 <Bugpowder>	I dumped my dice when I figured out no whale
Mar 02 23:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news, i ate out today.
Mar 02 23:05:45 <Bugpowder>	I bought some back when I found another network of 10,000+ coins
Mar 02 23:05:46 <pigeons>	it probably is him cause the other 500001's were me and this one isnt
Mar 02 23:05:55 <mircea_popescu>	law here is you can use receipts for deductions if < 100 lei per.
Mar 02 23:06:04 <mircea_popescu>	so i told the waitress to split up my bill accordingly.
Mar 02 23:06:08 <mircea_popescu>	she came up with three things.
Mar 02 23:06:12 <pigeons>	i figured i'll buy at that price and take the div
Mar 02 23:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	first was a total of 69
Mar 02 23:06:16 <mircea_popescu>	2nd was a total of 69
Mar 02 23:06:20 <mircea_popescu>	third was a total of... 69.
Mar 02 23:06:40 <Bugpowder>	69 is a restricted number on california license plates
Mar 02 23:06:47 <Bugpowder>	only cars from 1969 can use it
Mar 02 23:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol!
Mar 02 23:07:14 <Bugpowder>	I learned this today when checking custom plates
Mar 02 23:07:30 <mircea_popescu>	what you're serious ?!
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Mar 02 23:09:05 <Bugpowder>	yes
Mar 02 23:09:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00550001 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Mar 02 23:09:44 <Bugpowder>	https://www.dmv.ca.gov/ipp2/initPers.do
Mar 02 23:09:47 <Bugpowder>	look it up
Mar 02 23:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	this is why that country is going to shit
Mar 02 23:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	too many dumbass "rules".
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Mar 02 23:12:17 <Bugpowder>	Is deprived on IRC?
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Mar 02 23:15:50 <Bugpowder>	he seems awefully well informed for not being on irc
Mar 02 23:16:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder pretty much the only guy with a clue outside of irc
Mar 02 23:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen deprived
Mar 02 23:16:55 <gribble>	I have not seen deprived.
Mar 02 23:17:04 <ThickAssLaptop>	Deprived doesnt do IRC
Mar 02 23:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	he does show up ocasionally tho, we've chatted
Mar 02 23:17:06 <ThickAssLaptop>	i asked him
Mar 02 23:21:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00996 BTC [-]
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Mar 02 23:26:31 <ThickAssLaptop>	Deprived knows his shit, runs some great ltc assets
Mar 02 23:27:07 <runeks>	DAMN. this one is taken. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/wasapp/ipp2/processPers.do?plateChar0=H&plateChar1=8&plateChar2=S&plateChar3=G&plateChar4=N&plateChar5=H&plateChar6=8
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Mar 02 23:29:43 <Bugpowder>	H8SGNH8?
Mar 02 23:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	try P4NT1E5
Mar 02 23:31:43 <runeks>	Bugpowder: yes, I was going to get H8RSGNH8, but there's a 7 character limit
Mar 02 23:31:58 <runeks>	mircea_popescu: I bet that wouldn't be allowed. I mean if they ban 69...
Mar 02 23:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	wait. panties aren't allowed ?
Mar 02 23:32:25 <runeks>	mircea_popescu: dunno. I'm just guessing.
Mar 02 23:32:26 <mircea_popescu>	gotta go commando now ?
Mar 02 23:32:28 <swhitt>	there was some dude that had CUN7 or something in west virginia
Mar 02 23:32:46 <swhitt>	crazy west virginians.
Mar 02 23:32:57 <runeks>	it's always west virginians
Mar 02 23:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	there should be a law all virginians must be named Ian
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Mar 02 23:33:41 <swhitt>	Ian doesn't sound very west virginian
Mar 02 23:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	Virgin Ian ?
Mar 02 23:34:09 <swhitt>	haha
Mar 02 23:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, what's the big deal, some dork has CUNT on his license plate. so who cares.
Mar 02 23:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	"yes officer, i saw it, was a pink and green 1971 pontiac with CUNT license plates"
Mar 02 23:34:48 <swhitt>	http://instantrimshot.com/
Mar 02 23:35:14 <swhitt>	it's america so everyone without anything else to do decides they have to care
Mar 02 23:35:17 <swhitt>	and start a crusade against it
Mar 02 23:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	sad state of affairs.
Mar 02 23:36:20 <swhitt>	indeed
Mar 02 23:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	i blame men.
Mar 02 23:36:43 <mircea_popescu>	women that don't get fucked often enough and raw enough get bored
Mar 02 23:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	and a bored woman is the bane of all government.
Mar 02 23:37:01 <swhitt>	you'd do wonderfully in american politics :)
Mar 02 23:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	i bet.
Mar 02 23:37:20 <swhitt>	probably'd get ~50% of the vote
Mar 02 23:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	as long as i'm counting them i ain't getting under 90
Mar 02 23:38:15 <swhitt>	blame it on the hanging chad
Mar 02 23:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 02 23:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/23/where-are-they-now-the-hanging-chad-guy/
Mar 02 23:39:07 <swhitt>	anyone have any bets on whom one should bet ~$20k on for asic hardware (actual hardware, not shares)?
Mar 02 23:39:48 <swhitt>	foregoing the fact that it is still a gamble at this point
Mar 02 23:40:05 <runeks>	good question
Mar 02 23:40:17 <swhitt>	I have a cilent or two who are interested
Mar 02 23:40:38 <ThickAssLaptop>	there's no good answer
Mar 02 23:40:44 <swhitt>	yeah...
Mar 02 23:40:46 <swhitt>	that's what I said
Mar 02 23:40:56 <ThickAssLaptop>	bfl is the most real company i guess
Mar 02 23:41:08 <ThickAssLaptop>	asicminer shares might be a stable choice...
Mar 02 23:41:12 <ThickAssLaptop>	but all risky
Mar 02 23:41:12 <runeks>	If I had $20k to invest in Bitcoin it wouldn't go to any ASIC company
Mar 02 23:41:30 <swhitt>	runeks: yeah, I said "buy bitcoin, throw some at SDICE but keep most of it in BTC"
Mar 02 23:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	swhitt http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 02 23:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	take your pick
Mar 02 23:41:46 <runeks>	swhitt: I think that's good advice.
Mar 02 23:41:47 <swhitt>	but they are interested in hashing etc.
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Mar 02 23:42:15 <ThickAssLaptop>	start a litecoin farm
Mar 02 23:42:20 <ThickAssLaptop>	thats my advice
Mar 02 23:42:30 <runeks>	swhitt: what do you mean? are they interested in making money or supporting the network?
Mar 02 23:43:05 <swhitt>	what's ltcbtc fx rate now
Mar 02 23:43:33 <swhitt>	the guy's loaded and wants to geek out
Mar 02 23:43:44 <swhitt>	plus the prospect of making money makes it more fun I guess
Mar 02 23:44:36 <swhitt>	1 ltc is only 0.0024 via btc-e now...
Mar 02 23:44:50 <swhitt>	0.0024 btc
Mar 02 23:45:42 <ThickAssLaptop>	look at the usd rate too
Mar 02 23:45:47 <runeks>	I have a hard time believing BFL will deliver within the next two months. but on the other hand Avalon won't either, probably (for new customers). so it doesn't look too good.
Mar 02 23:46:04 <ThickAssLaptop>	and run a litecoin mining calc befre you judge
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Mar 02 23:54:52 <mod6>	that was an awesome hockey game
Mar 02 23:57:15 <mod6>	was i on tv?
Mar 03 00:00:56 <mod6>	musta been
Mar 03 00:01:08 <mod6>	missed the s.dice sale 'eh
Mar 03 00:02:48 <ThickAssLaptop>	any word from evoorhees lately?
Mar 03 00:03:12 <swhitt>	when is the march dividend out?
Mar 03 00:03:22 <swhitt>	i thought it was supposed to be today.
Mar 03 00:05:52 <pigeons>	complete and accurate Statements of Profit and Loss for each calendar month will be published by them no later than by the fifth day of the new month.
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Mar 03 00:13:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.642 BTC [-]
Mar 03 00:14:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.64 = 5.12 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 00:38:18 <Bowjob>	hey guys
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Mar 03 00:39:30 <Bowjob>	i cant seem to access my coins
Mar 03 00:39:33 <Bowjob>	via electrum
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Mar 03 00:41:19 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob why not ?
Mar 03 00:41:43 <Bowjob>	When I double click on the .exe, it doesn't start
Mar 03 00:41:50 <Bowjob>	I'm redownloading electrum to see whats up
Mar 03 00:41:52 <mod6>	did you try rebooting
Mar 03 00:41:56 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 03 00:42:04 <mod6>	<.<
Mar 03 00:42:32 <Bowjob>	I have the seed so I'm good
Mar 03 00:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	"Electrum is an easy to use Bitcoin client. It protects you from losing coins"
Mar 03 00:43:02 <mircea_popescu>	i find this funny in the circumstances.
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Mar 03 00:43:25 <mod6>	does the process show up in the running executables list?
Mar 03 00:43:29 <Bowjob>	No
Mar 03 00:43:48 <Bowjob>	funny, I re downloaded it, doesnt open up
Mar 03 00:43:48 <Bowjob>	mhm
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Mar 03 00:43:59 <mod6>	what if you try to execute it from the command line, what happens?
Mar 03 00:45:11 <Bowjob>	reboot once again
Mar 03 00:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
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Mar 03 00:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0048 / 0.00527802 / 0.0063777 (125950 shares, 664.77 BTC), 7D: 0.0048 / 0.00592985 / 0.0063799 (362817 shares, 2,151.45 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00600141 / 0.007395 (6901876 shares, 41,421.02 BTC)
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Mar 03 00:54:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11239 @ 0.00077013 = 8.6555 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 00:56:45 <Bowjob>	gah
Mar 03 00:56:48 <Bowjob>	no dice
Mar 03 00:57:15 <mod6>	do you still have your wallet.dat and all?
Mar 03 00:58:58 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 03 00:59:02 <Bowjob>	electrum wallet.dat
Mar 03 00:59:13 <Bowjob>	also i have the brain wallet for it
Mar 03 00:59:22 <Bowjob>	i redl'd it, doesnt work
Mar 03 01:00:44 <mod6>	maybe just not do anything for a little while.
Mar 03 01:00:44 <mod6>	sometimes maybe it just needs a break
Mar 03 01:01:34 <Bowjob>	150+ coins are in there
Mar 03 01:01:45 <Bowjob>	sheesh, i need a more reliable client
Mar 03 01:02:03 <mod6>	but you've got the private key with the brain wallet thingy right?
Mar 03 01:02:19 <Bowjob>	thats only for electrum
Mar 03 01:03:29 <mod6>	what does block chain say, your coins still there?
Mar 03 01:03:54 <mod6>	or did they go to pirate school of business?
Mar 03 01:04:09 <Bowjob>	still there
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Mar 03 01:07:16 <mod6>	hmm
Mar 03 01:07:20 <mod6>	that sux
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Mar 03 01:15:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 5 @ 0.22837831 = 1.1419 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 01:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 5 @ 0.20293542 = 1.0147 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 01:24:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 5 @ 0.20293542 = 1.0147 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 01:44:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.67499 = 1.35 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 02:02:59 <Bowjob_>	damn
Mar 03 02:03:08 <Bowjob_>	Yeah, I got my wallet back
Mar 03 02:03:11 <Bowjob_>	I had to redownload the whole thing
Mar 03 02:03:19 <Bowjob_>	If it wasn't for my brain wallet..
Mar 03 02:03:20 <Bowjob_>	damn
Mar 03 02:03:24 <Bowjob_>	Id be shit out of luck
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Mar 03 02:09:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5445 @ 0.00072 = 3.9204 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 02:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4761 @ 0.00077013 = 3.6666 BTC [-]
Mar 03 02:27:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 637 @ 0.00077014 = 0.4906 BTC [+]
Mar 03 02:27:35 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 03 02:27:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.11001, Best ask: 34.19697, Bid-ask spread: 0.08696, Last trade: 34.10999, 24 hour volume: 11231.75585876, 24 hour low: 33.70000, 24 hour high: 34.40000, 24 hour vwap: 34.06863
Mar 03 02:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7802 @ 0.00077361 = 6.0357 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 03:06:14 <Bowjob>	hey guys
Mar 03 03:06:17 <Bowjob>	wtf happened to dice?
Mar 03 03:14:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.00996 = 0.1295 BTC [-]
Mar 03 03:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00076846 = 2.2285 BTC [-]
Mar 03 03:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00076144 = 0.9899 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 04:35:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.67499 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Mar 03 04:35:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.67499 = 6.7499 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 04:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12198 @ 0.00077361 = 9.4365 BTC [+]
Mar 03 04:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1903 @ 0.00077835 = 1.4812 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 04:48:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.67499 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Mar 03 04:48:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.679 = 10.864 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 04:49:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.679 = 20.37 BTC [+]
Mar 03 04:49:15 <usagi>	Hello.
Mar 03 04:49:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00988 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
Mar 03 04:49:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 12 @ 0.00987 = 0.1184 BTC [-]
Mar 03 04:50:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.679 = 6.111 BTC [+]
Mar 03 04:50:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.00985 = 0.0887 BTC [-]
Mar 03 04:50:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 60 @ 0.00984 = 0.5904 BTC [-]
Mar 03 04:51:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 898 @ 0.00982 = 8.8184 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 05:05:04 <Zedster>	troubles at BTC-e?
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Mar 03 05:14:19 <Zedster>	anyones sites down?
Mar 03 05:19:13 <jurov>	whole cloudflare down
Mar 03 05:19:29 <jurov>	bitstamp, bitfunder, etc.
Mar 03 05:19:36 <Zedster>	yeps
Mar 03 05:19:44 <Zedster>	just now figuring that out
Mar 03 05:20:00 <jurov>	mpex users not affected
Mar 03 05:20:08 <Zedster>	of course just as i am trying to by some btc
Mar 03 05:20:17 <Zedster>	LOL
Mar 03 05:20:43 <BitHub>	why is everything down
Mar 03 05:20:52 <Zedster>	sorry laughing at the users not affected
Mar 03 05:21:26 <Zedster>	cause cloudflare is choking bithub
Mar 03 05:21:39 <BitHub>	cloudflare?
Mar 03 05:22:30 <Zedster>	DNS server
Mar 03 05:22:40 <BitHub>	never mind i'm reading it :)
Mar 03 05:22:49 <Zedster>	u go girl
Mar 03 05:26:56 <BitHub>	lul
Mar 03 05:27:32 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob, at what happened to dice is btc went up...
Mar 03 05:27:41 <Chaang-Noi>	that why i never invested
Mar 03 05:28:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 05:43:59 <Anduck>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 03 05:44:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0048 / 0.00527802 / 0.0063777 (125950 shares, 664.77 BTC), 7D: 0.0048 / 0.00593008 / 0.0063799 (361817 shares, 2,145.60 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00599968 / 0.007395 (6892546 shares, 41,353.08 BTC)
Mar 03 05:51:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.620001 = 1.24 BTC [-]
Mar 03 05:52:48 <Bowjob>	eh, i cashed out just in time
Mar 03 05:58:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.62 = 31 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 06:43:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.295 BTC [-]
Mar 03 06:43:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.291 = 2.91 BTC [-]
Mar 03 06:43:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.29 = 0.87 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 06:50:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 140 @ 0.006 = 0.84 BTC [-]
Mar 03 06:52:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.00595 = 1.19 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 07:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8347 @ 0.00077835 = 6.4969 BTC [+]
Mar 03 07:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1353 @ 0.00077935 = 1.0545 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 07:44:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.00999 = 0.0699 BTC [+]
Mar 03 07:46:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 499 @ 0.00599994 = 2.994 BTC [+]
Mar 03 07:46:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00599996 = 11.9999 BTC [+]
Mar 03 07:46:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00599997 = 2.4 BTC [+]
Mar 03 07:46:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00599997 = 3.6 BTC [+]
Mar 03 07:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1853 @ 0.00599998 = 11.118 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 08:12:04 <leotreasure>	what's going on with these bets on sd atm?
Mar 03 08:12:34 <leotreasure>	looks like someone is trying to profile the randomness
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Mar 03 08:16:23 <leotreasure>	bets are decrementing by 0.016125
Mar 03 08:18:05 <ThickAsThieves>	probly just someone trying to make their own martingale strategy or some shit
Mar 03 08:18:22 <leotreasure>	it was all bets above max on the 64000x
Mar 03 08:19:49 <ThickAsThieves>	so they are testing to see if the max is really the max?
Mar 03 08:20:14 <leotreasure>	it was a lot of bets
Mar 03 08:20:21 <leotreasure>	automated for sure
Mar 03 08:20:35 <ThickAsThieves>	did they get responses from sdice?
Mar 03 08:20:41 <ThickAsThieves>	could also be a borked bot
Mar 03 08:21:19 <leotreasure>	i assume they would have had their bets returned being above the max
Mar 03 08:21:50 <leotreasure>	wonder if sd uses a hardware rng
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Mar 03 08:23:17 <ThickAsThieves>	got link to one of the bets?
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Mar 03 08:32:38 <StarenseN>	hi, can someone point me to the article where MP explain the PGP key to change ?
Mar 03 08:32:50 <StarenseN>	to trade on mpex
Mar 03 08:35:12 <FabianB_>	CFE0F3E1
Mar 03 08:37:16 <leotreasure>	ThickAsThieves: sorry i didn't think to copy a tx - but you can see the .0015% chance address is being hammered now
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Mar 03 08:37:48 <StarenseN>	thx FabianB_ but I need to check the fix in the python script
Mar 03 08:38:17 <leotreasure>	and it's stopped
Mar 03 08:38:49 <ThickAsThieves>	right when i checked
Mar 03 08:38:52 <Azelphur>	StarenseN: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/new-mpex-key/
Mar 03 08:39:47 <leotreasure>	ThickAsThieves: https://blockchain.info/address/1dice1e6pdhLzzWQq7yMidf6j8eAg7pkY?offset=650&filter=0
Mar 03 08:40:11 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 03 08:40:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0048 / 0.00530745 / 0.0063777 (131302 shares, 696.88 BTC), 7D: 0.0048 / 0.0059305 / 0.0063799 (365169 shares, 2,165.64 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00599801 / 0.007395 (6888944 shares, 41,319.96 BTC)
Mar 03 08:41:10 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like all the bets over max are getting no return
Mar 03 08:41:50 <ThickAsThieves>	theres a lot of em
Mar 03 08:42:13 <ThickAsThieves>	free money for sdice
Mar 03 08:44:57 <leotreasure>	ok i think i was misreading the blockchain
Mar 03 08:45:03 <ThickAsThieves>	wait i think i am too
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Mar 03 08:48:00 <leotreasure>	cos when it showed up in the live feed the amounts were high
Mar 03 08:48:33 <leotreasure>	but looking at the txs it looks like the actual btc transferred was in the .01 to .02 range
Mar 03 08:48:52 <Bugpowder>	Yes people make that mistake all the time
Mar 03 08:49:21 <Bugpowder>	Omg someone is betting 100btc every 2 seconds!!!
Mar 03 08:49:26 <Bugpowder>	Nop
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Mar 03 09:01:48 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/
Mar 03 09:01:48 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Feb 28 21:46:01 2013
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Mar 03 09:56:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.0919 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 10:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3713 @ 0.00076397 = 2.8366 BTC [-]
Mar 03 10:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 787 @ 0.00076396 = 0.6012 BTC [-]
Mar 03 10:07:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i hear beer
Mar 03 10:07:51 <Chaang-Noi>	heart
Mar 03 10:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/orice-cuplu-functional/
Mar 03 10:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	the text reads
Mar 03 10:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	"any functional couple...
Mar 03 10:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	... includes a little secret"
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Mar 03 10:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	“I really have no idea how money works or budgets work.”
Mar 03 10:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	that seriously explains everything
Mar 03 10:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	at least the man's occasionally honest.
Mar 03 10:37:01 <Zedster>	do you always pat yourself on the back?
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Mar 03 10:41:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.00073 = 0.365 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 10:44:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.349 = 1.745 BTC [+]
Mar 03 10:45:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.0919 = 0.2757 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 10:49:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+]
Mar 03 10:53:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Mar 03 10:53:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Mar 03 10:53:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 16 @ 0.00999 = 0.1598 BTC [+]
Mar 03 10:53:38 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you have a minute?
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Mar 03 11:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	last saturday john wells had no idea bitcoin even exists. this saturday he's asking his guests cogent questions about it.
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Mar 03 11:12:29 <mjr_>	lol what up everyone
Mar 03 11:13:17 <mjr_>	this is too funny, every month you have people running away from s.dice's money
Mar 03 11:13:29 <mjr_>	quick guys they are about to pay us, sell sell sell
Mar 03 11:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 03 11:16:32 <Bugpwoder>	In a mature, efficient market, the stock price generally drops by the amount of the dividend upon dividend payout.  Last two months, this anticipated drop did not occur with S.DICE.
Mar 03 11:17:04 <lottoBTC>	TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/
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Mar 03 11:21:19 <thestringpuller>	Bugpwoder: in fact it went up no?
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Mar 03 11:32:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.349 = 0.698 BTC [+]
Mar 03 11:33:34 <mjr_>	yep
Mar 03 11:33:42 <mjr_>	in fact it drops right BEFORE dividends
Mar 03 11:33:45 <mjr_>	then rises after
Mar 03 11:34:34 <thestringpuller>	it's because people are trying to short
Mar 03 11:34:36 <thestringpuller>	not really
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Mar 03 11:58:04 <Bugpwoder>	thestringpuller: yes
Mar 03 12:01:02 <Zedster>	anyone aware of BTC-e having problems taking deposits?
Mar 03 12:01:38 <lottoBTC>	TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/
Mar 03 12:03:39 <Bugpwoder>	^ spam detected....
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Mar 03 12:35:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 17 @ 1.56 = 26.52 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 12:40:22 <thestringpuller>	spam detected
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Mar 03 12:49:18 <kakobrekla>	mornin
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Mar 03 12:51:37 <Bugpwoder>	lottoBTC needs to be banned
Mar 03 12:53:35 <kakobrekla>	lottoBTC read chan rules and obey them, if you wish to stay.
Mar 03 12:56:45 <kakobrekla>	you can also pay me 1337 btc and ill leave you alone
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Mar 03 12:58:24 <Zedster>	go with option B
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Mar 03 13:00:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00591 = 0.591 BTC [-]
Mar 03 13:00:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 85 @ 0.0059 = 0.5015 BTC [-]
Mar 03 13:04:21 <mjr_>	good morning
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Mar 03 13:13:52 <topace_>	anyone know when the sdice dividend is going ot be paid?
Mar 03 13:14:04 <kakobrekla>	any day now
Mar 03 13:15:09 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Weird, I remember there was a list of exchanges in the topic, where is it?
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Mar 03 13:21:48 <mjr_>	should be by tuesday the 5th i think
Mar 03 13:23:04 <Eduard_Munteanu>	kakobrekla: does bit4x provide a web interface for trading? I'm on Linux.
Mar 03 13:23:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.29 = 1.45 BTC [-]
Mar 03 13:23:47 <kakobrekla>	Eduard_Munteanu, no, you need to use MT4, you can use it in virtual machine
Mar 03 13:24:01 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I see.
Mar 03 13:24:49 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I guess Wine might do too.
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Mar 03 13:25:32 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Mar 03 13:25:50 <kakobrekla>	google says its possible but i havent tested how well it works under wine
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Mar 03 13:32:26 <mjr_>	does MT4 have an API?
Mar 03 13:33:17 <kakobrekla>	well yea, it has an internal api
Mar 03 13:33:25 <kakobrekla>	you can code your stuff there with MQL
Mar 03 13:33:31 <mjr_>	ok cool
Mar 03 13:33:55 <mjr_>	i'm working on plugging different exchanges into a smart order router/virtual crossing engine
Mar 03 13:35:42 <mjr_>	i'm installing it now, to play around with it, looks like a cool piece of software
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Mar 03 13:36:47 <mjr_>	looks like a really cool app, who do you set up an account with exactly?
Mar 03 13:37:54 <kakobrekla>	what do you mean?
Mar 03 13:38:09 <kakobrekla>	i open live accounts in btc denomination
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Mar 03 13:41:21 <jurov>	hi kakobrekla: http://live.coinbr.com/images/logofinal.png
Mar 03 13:42:26 <jurov>	aka siren-maintained corporate identity xD
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Mar 03 13:45:34 <kakobrekla>	its up http://bitcoin-assets.com/
Mar 03 13:50:55 <jurov>	lol, looks even better with these rounded corners
Mar 03 13:51:06 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 03 13:51:16 <kakobrekla>	shhhhs mp will hear you.
Mar 03 13:52:21 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm, what other broker is there for MPEx, other than nam's?
Mar 03 13:52:36 <kakobrekla>	hit f5 on bitcoin-assets
Mar 03 13:52:39 <kakobrekla>	.com
Mar 03 13:52:40 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 03 13:52:56 <dub>	Eduard_Munteanu: https://coinbr.com/ref?c=A3R7Tstq16
Mar 03 13:53:24 <jurov>	yup
Mar 03 13:54:26 <Eduard_Munteanu>	dub: thanks, I'll add you as a referral if I register
Mar 03 13:56:16 <dub>	gah what happened to rule 1 of -assets
Mar 03 13:56:50 <kakobrekla>	eggs bacon and spam.
Mar 03 14:01:40 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm, only 3 assets listed on coinbr?
Mar 03 14:01:49 <Bugpowder>	only 3 assets listed on mpex
Mar 03 14:01:51 <Bugpowder>	dude
Mar 03 14:02:08 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I see, I recall a few more on nam's.
Mar 03 14:02:46 <jurov>	there are also options and futures
Mar 03 14:02:56 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Oh, nice.
Mar 03 14:03:22 <jurov>	but were not so often trade to make this type of graph usable
Mar 03 14:03:27 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm, I suppose I can't see a list of assets until I deposit some BTCs?
Mar 03 14:03:51 <jurov>	yes, new order screen is accessible only after initial deposit
Mar 03 14:04:00 <jurov>	but it's the same list as mpex.co
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Mar 03 14:10:09 <error4733>	F*** the bast*** playing less than 2000 on SDICE... 2x 15 BTC to 955 BTC
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Mar 03 14:12:06 <Zedster>	mirc won't let me list my touring polka band
Mar 03 14:15:57 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Why are those options so cheap? E.g. strike price 19USD/BTC, valued at 0.566 BTC.
Mar 03 14:16:28 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Err...
Mar 03 14:16:46 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Nevermind, I read USD instead of BTC.
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Mar 03 14:30:03 <lottoBTC>	TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/
Mar 03 14:30:20 <Bugpowder>	SPAM DETECTED
Mar 03 14:31:59 <kakobrekla>	yeah yeah
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Mar 03 14:33:18 <Zedster>	got him!
Mar 03 14:33:39 <Zedster>	wtg bug
Mar 03 14:40:37 <Lyspooner>	what if i said the same thing
Mar 03 14:41:10 <Lyspooner>	TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/
Mar 03 14:41:12 <Zedster>	every 5 mins and nothing else?
Mar 03 14:41:30 <Lyspooner>	oh that was the first one i saw
Mar 03 14:42:09 <Zedster>	it's a bot
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Mar 03 14:42:34 <Bugpowder>	never try to reason with a robot
Mar 03 14:43:09 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 03 14:43:10 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.24860 U.S. dollars = 26.3086496 Euros
Mar 03 14:51:25 <dub>	Is it racist of me to ignore SebastianJu purely because I can't parse his linglinglish
Mar 03 14:52:24 <kakobrekla>	well not if you ignore his rase too
Mar 03 14:58:20 <chmod755>	lol
Mar 03 15:01:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.006 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Mar 03 15:02:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.0059 = 0.885 BTC [-]
Mar 03 15:03:51 <jurov>	Zedster, try btct for the polka band
Mar 03 15:06:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00077843 = 5.449 BTC [+]
Mar 03 15:07:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.349 = 0.698 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 15:09:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000745 BTC [+]
Mar 03 15:11:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.00076 = 0.0228 BTC [+]
Mar 03 15:11:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.00077 = 0.0154 BTC [+]
Mar 03 15:12:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.00078 = 0.0156 BTC [+]
Mar 03 15:13:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 40 @ 0.00079 = 0.0316 BTC [+]
Mar 03 15:13:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 278 @ 0.00079 = 0.2196 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 15:18:55 <dub>	heh just got expense report for a week long road trip with 5 friends last month
Mar 03 15:19:59 <dub>	more of a historic pub crawl, wine tour and whiskey binge
Mar 03 15:20:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00505 BTC [-]
Mar 03 15:20:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 70 @ 0.00504 = 0.3528 BTC [-]
Mar 03 15:20:39 <dub>	we spent $10003
Mar 03 15:21:44 <kakobrekla>	not bad
Mar 03 15:22:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0059 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 15:40:12 <Bugpowder>	finally about to break out of this channel
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Mar 03 15:42:49 <kakobrekla>	the what?
Mar 03 15:43:28 <kakobrekla>	you cant do that.
Mar 03 15:44:48 <Zedster>	bugs gotta do whats bugs gotta do
Mar 03 15:46:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6745 = 2.698 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 15:53:47 <Lyspooner>	taser sword https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0F-VVjqarZE#!
Mar 03 15:59:40 <dub>	amurica fuck yeah
Mar 03 16:00:39 <dub>	comment win:  Occams Taser 3 minutes ago Now try building yourself a girlfriend...
Mar 03 16:00:49 <Diablo-D3>	I still want taser brass knuckles
Mar 03 16:01:32 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 03 16:01:33 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.34800 U.S. dollars = 26.3850054 Euros
Mar 03 16:01:59 <dub>	Diablo-D3: beserker punch doom style
Mar 03 16:02:12 <dub>	berserker*
Mar 03 16:02:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550004 = 5.5 BTC [-]
Mar 03 16:02:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00550003 = 3.85 BTC [-]
Mar 03 16:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0055 = 3.85 BTC [-]
Mar 03 16:03:15 <jurov>	pre-divs sale goes on
Mar 03 16:03:27 <Diablo-D3>	dub: the only thing I remember from doom is the fucking lobster claw
Mar 03 16:08:40 <thestringpuller>	I wish I could short.
Mar 03 16:08:50 <thestringpuller>	The market is so reactive
Mar 03 16:08:57 <thestringpuller>	rather than proactive
Mar 03 16:17:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00999 = 0.0599 BTC [+]
Mar 03 16:18:18 <dub>	I wish I was a little bit shorter, wish I wasnt a baller, wish I had a girl who looked bad, I wouldnt call her?
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Mar 03 16:19:37 <dub>	wish I had usagi in a hat with a bat and a '84 skoda
Mar 03 16:22:07 <dub>	mtgox   x85     0.0675
Mar 03 16:22:08 <dub>	wat
Mar 03 16:25:20 <dub>	mtgox  x110     0.0338
Mar 03 16:25:38 <dub>	the fuck is going on
Mar 03 16:25:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00076889 = 0.8842 BTC [-]
Mar 03 16:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21495 @ 0.00077069 = 16.566 BTC [+]
Mar 03 16:26:08 <dub>	we gettin goxxed
Mar 03 16:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0055001 = 2.7501 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 16:42:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 03 16:42:30 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4663223.55823 based on data since last change | 4470188.64953 based on data for last three days
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Mar 03 16:48:47 <jurov>	iDiff-E selling for 6.1 now for beliebers ;)
Mar 03 16:49:17 <jurov>	*no, it's iDiff-O  March
Mar 03 16:49:24 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 03 16:49:24 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.36999 U.S. dollars = 26.4018974 Euros
Mar 03 16:51:53 <Ukto>	First backed asicminer shares trading live
Mar 03 16:51:54 <Ukto>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.ASICMINER-PT
Mar 03 16:55:24 <dub>	backed
Mar 03 16:56:14 <Ukto>	backed
Mar 03 16:58:14 <dub>	strangely that word (as much as it is worth) doesn't appear in the profile
Mar 03 17:00:08 <dub>	Shares total: 1 bajillion/Shares Issued: tiny fraction/Issuer may arbitrarily manipulte share value: yes
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Mar 03 17:01:57 <Ukto>	it states that all shares are verified with friedcat
Mar 03 17:02:00 <Ukto>	but your right
Mar 03 17:02:06 <Ukto>	I will get that changed
Mar 03 17:02:11 <Ukto>	terra went to be already tho -_-
Mar 03 17:07:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00208 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:07:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 15 @ 0.002 = 0.03 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:07:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 84 @ 0.0019 = 0.1596 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:08:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0059 = 0.59 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 17:10:00 <jurov>	Any public votes presented by ASICMINER to all shareholders of ASICMINER may be voted on BitFunder towards a single decision by the G.ASICMINGER-PT shareholder account.
Mar 03 17:10:18 <jurov>	Ukto either there will be voting support or someone is due for a headache?
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Mar 03 17:11:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.00581 = 2.905 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:14:17 <Ukto>	well
Mar 03 17:14:24 <Ukto>	supposedly there will be no public votes
Mar 03 17:14:29 <Ukto>	but just in case
Mar 03 17:14:32 <Ukto>	that was put in
Mar 03 17:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3147 @ 0.00599998 = 18.8819 BTC [+]
Mar 03 17:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1853 @ 0.00599999 = 11.118 BTC [+]
Mar 03 17:17:19 <jurov>	better to just say shares have no voting rights
Mar 03 17:17:33 <jurov>	cuz trolls will be trolling inevitably
Mar 03 17:18:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.624 = 6.24 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:18:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.6235 = 14.964 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:18:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.6221 = 6.221 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:18:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.621 = 3.726 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:18:46 <jurov>	OT: if anyone uses postgres, i recommend: http://postgres-bits.herokuapp.com . several things blew me away, like, it can store dictionaries
Mar 03 17:19:25 <jurov>	natively
Mar 03 17:19:37 <jurov>	and query them
Mar 03 17:22:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0059 = 5.9 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 17:24:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.41 = 2.82 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:25:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.4 = 4.2 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:36:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000789 = 0.0237 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:37:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.621 = 3.726 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 17:51:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 19 @ 0.0058 = 0.1102 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:51:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00572 = 0.572 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 17:51:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 31 @ 0.00571 = 0.177 BTC [-]
Mar 03 17:52:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.00799 = 0.799 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 18:07:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.002129 = 0.2129 BTC [+]
Mar 03 18:09:31 <topace_>	anyone want to test pushing units from mpex to havelock?
Mar 03 18:09:58 <kakobrekla>	is it free?
Mar 03 18:10:08 <kakobrekla>	i dont even have havelock acc thb
Mar 03 18:10:10 <kakobrekla>	tbh
Mar 03 18:10:26 <topace_>	yup its free
Mar 03 18:10:36 <kakobrekla>	this is for arb or what?
Mar 03 18:10:52 <topace_>	yea, to allow others to get in on the mpex->havelock arbitrage
Mar 03 18:11:02 <kakobrekla>	cute
Mar 03 18:11:39 <topace_>	1) push shares to my fingerprint
Mar 03 18:11:40 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Cool.
Mar 03 18:11:43 <topace_>	2) paste receipt into havelock website
Mar 03 18:11:59 <topace_>	3) i manually approve transfer (for now)
Mar 03 18:12:08 <topace_>	once im sure its working well, ill remove the manual transfer
Mar 03 18:12:18 <topace_>	or, only require it on very large transfers
Mar 03 18:12:32 <kakobrekla>	hmmm
Mar 03 18:12:55 <kakobrekla>	i mean the question here is y u open this at all
Mar 03 18:13:02 <kakobrekla>	you could just automate it
Mar 03 18:13:04 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Mar 03 18:13:05 <kakobrekla>	the arb
Mar 03 18:13:50 <kakobrekla>	no?
Mar 03 18:13:54 <topace_>	yea, i could
Mar 03 18:14:27 <kakobrekla>	well there some money on the table
Mar 03 18:14:41 <kakobrekla>	theres*
Mar 03 18:15:44 <topace_>	i think there needs to be a way for people to freely move shares between mpex and the passthru's and maybe even between the passthrus themselves
Mar 03 18:16:20 <kakobrekla>	ok imma gonna try this
Mar 03 18:16:25 <kakobrekla>	lets register
Mar 03 18:18:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 455 @ 0.00072 = 0.3276 BTC [-]
Mar 03 18:18:56 <topace_>	cool thanks
Mar 03 18:20:22 <kakobrekla>	Receipt is valid
Mar 03 18:20:22 <kakobrekla>	Your request to push 1000 unit(s) of S.DICE to Havelock Investments has been received. Push requests are currently processed manually (so expect 1-48 hours processign time), but will be automated in the future.
Mar 03 18:20:26 <thestringpuller>	passthru
Mar 03 18:21:38 <mircea_popescu>	hai.
Mar 03 18:22:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 500 @ 0.00213 = 1.065 BTC [+]
Mar 03 18:22:42 <kakobrekla>	topace_ where are ze shares? :p
Mar 03 18:22:47 <topace_>	kakobrekla: approved. should show in your account now
Mar 03 18:22:53 <topace_>	refresh portfolio page
Mar 03 18:23:00 <kakobrekla>	aha ok i see something
Mar 03 18:23:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 935 @ 0.0022 = 2.057 BTC [+]
Mar 03 18:24:16 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> hi kakobrekla: http://live.coinbr.com/images/logofinal.png ?<< haha cool
Mar 03 18:24:39 <topace_>	hmm wonder what its showing for your book value? obviously it wont be able to calculate that...
Mar 03 18:25:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.00249 = 0.005 BTC [+]
Mar 03 18:25:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00249 = 0.0249 BTC [+]
Mar 03 18:25:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 497 @ 0.0025 = 1.2425 BTC [+]
Mar 03 18:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	seems i didn't miss much huh
Mar 03 18:26:11 <topace_>	kakobrekla:  umm somethings wrong tho.
Mar 03 18:26:17 <topace_>	my multiple is off
Mar 03 18:26:18 <topace_>	lol
Mar 03 18:26:20 <kakobrekla>	hey yeah
Mar 03 18:26:24 <topace_>	it should have given you 10 shares, not 100
Mar 03 18:26:24 <kakobrekla>	i was just wondering
Mar 03 18:26:25 <topace_>	haha
Mar 03 18:26:33 <kakobrekla>	says 100 on the contract
Mar 03 18:27:12 <kakobrekla>	still no bbet tho ? :p
Mar 03 18:28:56 <topace_>	think i might add bbet this week
Mar 03 18:29:00 <topace_>	and mpoe as well
Mar 03 18:29:14 <kakobrekla>	the recent tx still shows 100
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Mar 03 18:29:45 <topace_>	just fixed that too
Mar 03 18:29:52 <kakobrekla>	kk
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Mar 03 18:30:02 <topace_>	well at least there was nothing wrong with the code, i just had the multiple set wrong.
Mar 03 18:30:17 <kakobrekla>	no way to push back now?
Mar 03 18:30:29 <kakobrekla>	i mean automagic or smth
Mar 03 18:30:41 <topace_>	not yet... but thats the easier of the two to code
Mar 03 18:30:51 <topace_>	give me your fingerprint and ill push em back
Mar 03 18:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00077069 = 7.2445 BTC [+]
Mar 03 18:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	push it push it
Mar 03 18:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU
Mar 03 18:32:01 <kakobrekla>	its ok, ima gonna leave em there
Mar 03 18:32:07 <topace_>	oh okay :)
Mar 03 18:32:37 <topace_>	ill add the push back form probably tomrrow or tuesday
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Mar 03 18:33:06 <topace_>	it'll be a push request, and manually approved on my side, same as the push in request.. at least until im sure its working 100%
Mar 03 18:33:19 <kakobrekla>	cool
Mar 03 18:33:44 <topace_>	gotta go vacuum now, or gf will kill me when she gets home
Mar 03 18:33:49 <topace_>	ttyl
Mar 03 18:33:52 <kakobrekla>	enjoy
Mar 03 18:35:23 <mircea_popescu>	that;s so backwards...
Mar 03 18:36:02 <kakobrekla>	first pusing off mpex now cleaning before the lady gets home
Mar 03 18:36:06 <kakobrekla>	endoftheworld.swf
Mar 03 18:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 03 18:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 03 18:37:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.40001, Best ask: 34.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 34.40001, 24 hour volume: 12439.22704040, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.50000, 24 hour vwap: 34.12774
Mar 03 18:38:31 <jurov>	next door at -otc, litecoin fpga firmware is cooking
Mar 03 18:38:50 <jurov>	"dont fpgas go out of style as fast as CPUs do?"
Mar 03 18:39:02 <mircea_popescu>	i thought litecoin was like all cpu
Mar 03 18:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	</facetious>
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Mar 03 18:39:57 <jurov>	just because it needs much memory. if someone figures out how to hook memory to fpga and make it fast...sky is the limit
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Mar 03 18:43:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6216 = 3.108 BTC [+]
Mar 03 18:43:39 <jurov>	and on -dev they took on to optimize satoshidice, again :)
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Mar 03 18:48:10 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 03 18:53:06 <jurov>	i wonder why i haven't seen the idea of applying hashcash to *every* transaction
Mar 03 18:53:46 <jurov>	like, tx won't be accepted if you didn't some little hashing yourself
Mar 03 18:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ask them when are they gonna actually get crackin on the actual problems http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/
Mar 03 18:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	buncha fuckwits
Mar 03 18:54:22 <jurov>	asked about that yest
Mar 03 18:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	aha ? and ?
Mar 03 18:54:46 <jurov>	can't remember any concrete outcome
Mar 03 18:55:27 <jurov>	some discussion about optimized choosing of unspent outputs at most
Mar 03 18:57:43 <jurov>	i guess you'll end up having to defragment the bitbet wallet occassionally
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Mar 03 18:57:58 <jurov>	to prevent situations
Mar 03 18:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	so why the fuck are they fixing other people's problems
Mar 03 18:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	jesus christ these dudes.
Mar 03 18:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	"o, what needs to be done is too hard, o, we're too stupid, let's do something else instead"
Mar 03 18:58:30 <mircea_popescu>	psccccchhhh
Mar 03 18:59:50 <jurov>	lol, i have to make closed source wallet defrag tool.. and sell it for 1BTC. or at least accept donations
Mar 03 19:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	and have the same dorks whine about how you're ruining bitcoin
Mar 03 19:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	which they broke
Mar 03 19:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	i strongly suspect the reason satoshi made himself scarce was that he was getting sick of dealing with the current team of devs.
Mar 03 19:03:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.6216 = 4.3512 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 19:04:17 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131012.0
Mar 03 19:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	aww they got chunge guy
Mar 03 19:05:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6197 BTC [-]
Mar 03 19:07:10 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 03 19:07:15 <Bowjob>	LTC went up to 10 cents
Mar 03 19:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	lmao wait. waitwait.
Mar 03 19:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	Cloudflare was down ?!
Mar 03 19:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaha
Mar 03 19:15:20 <Eduard_Munteanu>	BTW, how do you manage shares traded on your exchange? I hear asicminer people had to do some manual bookkeeping. Do you keep an exchange-local tab?
Mar 03 19:15:54 <Eduard_Munteanu>	But then I suppose you can't trade shares outside the exchange.
Mar 03 19:16:21 <jurov>	Eduard_Munteanu, you asking mircea?
Mar 03 19:16:26 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Anyone. :)
Mar 03 19:16:35 <jurov>	he already admitted he has girls for that
Mar 03 19:16:41 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Heh.
Mar 03 19:17:18 <jurov>	and yes, the shares don't go outside exchange. this is why we have all these passthroughs
Mar 03 19:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	an exchange is an exchange, it has a trade engine
Mar 03 19:17:46 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Ideally shares could work like BTC, I wonder if that's possible.
Mar 03 19:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	what friedcat is doing is inhuman
Mar 03 19:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	but i guess people gotta try it out.
Mar 03 19:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu that's not ideal. it's actually a bad idea. the horse has been discussed to death
Mar 03 19:18:32 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm.
Mar 03 19:19:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.61 = 3.05 BTC [-]
Mar 03 19:19:27 <Eduard_Munteanu>	But isn't there a crypto way to accomplish the same thing, perhaps different than BTC? You still need exchanges.
Mar 03 19:20:06 <Eduard_Munteanu>	If this has been discussed on the forums, I'd be glad to read those threads.
Mar 03 19:21:41 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Unlike BTCs, shares are by definition centralized I suppose.
Mar 03 19:21:53 <Eduard_Munteanu>	At least wrt how they're issued.
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Mar 03 19:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/
Mar 03 19:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135778037437.png lmao deliciouscake
Mar 03 19:30:06 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm, makes sense, reading... thanks.
Mar 03 19:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bitcoin Pride Stats
Mar 03 19:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	Feb 2013: Income: $2,200 USD Profit: $1,186.00 USD
Mar 03 19:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	(Selling was halted during the month of Feb. to change payment methods.)
Mar 03 19:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	Jan 2013: Income: $3,270 USD Profit: $2,218.35 USD
Mar 03 19:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	Dec 2012: Income: $4,521.75 USD Profit: $3,784.00 USD
Mar 03 19:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bitcoin pride averages a 70% profit. Don't you want a piece of the pie too?
Mar 03 19:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	wait, their income went from 4.5 to 3.2 then 2.2 ?!
Mar 03 19:31:14 <mircea_popescu>	who was saying they've eaten up their market earlier ? they had a point it seems
Mar 03 19:32:42 <BitHub>	so they're losing money each month?
Mar 03 19:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	well, losing incom
Mar 03 19:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	still showing a (growing) profit
Mar 03 19:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	i've never seen that sort of dynamic before.
Mar 03 19:36:04 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 03 19:36:06 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: I see the problem. Still, wouldn't an exchange / market-maker be able to eliminate all those delays for things traded within the exchange? Not sure how one'd deal with double spending if you don't wait for confirmations.
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Mar 03 19:36:33 <kakobrekla>	the formula it seems is Income( rand() ) - 1 grand = profit
Mar 03 19:37:32 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu by keeping a central book, obviously.
Mar 03 19:37:49 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla unless the sqrt log guy has a better solution,  i think you're spot on.
Mar 03 19:37:58 <kakobrekla>	;))
Mar 03 19:38:41 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: yes. And committing changes to the blockchain periodically. The exchange is still pretty important, but at least you can move stuff between exchanges in a standard way.
Mar 03 19:38:51 <mircea_popescu>	you ALREADY can do that.
Mar 03 19:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	mpex issues push receipts.
Mar 03 19:39:04 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm.
Mar 03 19:40:32 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Actually yeah, that kinda solves the entire issue.
Mar 03 19:40:51 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Not sure about OTC trading, but presumably you could do it manually somehow.
Mar 03 19:41:00 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Using your receipts.
Mar 03 19:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	if you can do it automatically like topace is trying you necessarily can do it manually too
Mar 03 19:41:56 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Indeed.
Mar 03 19:45:16 <mircea_popescu>	the way asicminer is playing this game makes me scratch my head.
Mar 03 19:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	so they're pointedly not coming to be listed on mpex, jump through the hoops and get my ok.
Mar 03 19:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	instead they're waiting for btct/bf/others run passthroughs
Mar 03 19:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	obviously there's no contract involved there.
Mar 03 19:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	now what happens if six months down the road friedcat pulls a gigavps ?
Mar 03 19:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto, burnside and whoever else involved gets scammer tags ? or what ?
Mar 03 19:47:49 <Eduard_Munteanu>	You're saying they're intentionally delaying listing on MPEx?
Mar 03 19:48:23 <mircea_popescu>	i'm saying they're either through sheer incompetence, sheer lack of resources or by actually being frauds behave just like a fraud would.
Mar 03 19:48:39 <mircea_popescu>	maybe i'm not understanding something.
Mar 03 19:49:43 <Eduard_Munteanu>	IDK, getting listed should've been negotiated even before the IPO, in my opinion. People have to have some way to buy / sell those stocks easily.
Mar 03 19:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Mar 03 19:50:40 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, they've liquidity-trapped their "investors"
Mar 03 19:50:46 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Yeah.
Mar 03 19:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	which is something you really don't want to do
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Mar 03 20:07:30 <dub>	whats liquidity?
Mar 03 20:08:16 <dub>	sound slike something to do with selling shares
Mar 03 20:08:24 <dub>	which is, as we know, not how you invest!
Mar 03 20:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	o ok
Mar 03 20:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	welcome back among the living
Mar 03 20:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130947.msg1576297#msg1576297
Mar 03 20:16:40 <mircea_popescu>	wow, eskimobob actually published a readable balance.
Mar 03 20:18:07 <dub>	wat
Mar 03 20:19:29 <dub>	oh right, where he lists bitcoins: he is counting litecoins
Mar 03 20:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	converted at an unspecified rate etc.\
Mar 03 20:24:27 <mircea_popescu>	still, i had no idea ltc tanked that bad in btc
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Mar 03 20:25:29 <pigeons>	yeah as btc was going up, ltc was going down to track the dollar and stay at .07 usd rather than stay at a ratio to btc
Mar 03 20:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	otoh lct seems all set for bubble territory.
Mar 03 20:26:34 <dub>	bfl realy do deserve some kind of award
Mar 03 20:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	since btc folks love a good bubble...
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Mar 03 20:27:10 <dub>	they should be held up as a shining example of how to fail at pr
Mar 03 20:27:24 <mircea_popescu>	nah, coinlab is the shining example of how to fail at pr.
Mar 03 20:27:45 <pigeons>	we brought bitcoin to wall street in silicon valley
Mar 03 20:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	"drunk whore stumbles into wallstreet bar, announces she's brining the clap to wall street"
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Mar 03 20:28:27 <dub>	im not sure if hiring inaba or letting your userbase add content at a yourdomain.com/blog/ url IS DUMBER
Mar 03 20:28:59 <dub>	it took quite a few moments to decipher that I was not actually reading an official bfl blog
Mar 03 20:29:03 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 03 20:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	truth be told those are pretty good too
Mar 03 20:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	ah, so much fail, so hard to pick a winner
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Mar 03 20:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	sooo, three chicks drank four liters of vodka in two days.
Mar 03 20:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck is this, dnipopetrovsk ?!
Mar 03 20:32:27 <dub>	I should delve into this road trip expenses sheet
Mar 03 20:32:52 <mircea_popescu>	hey, was it like 10k ?
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Mar 03 20:33:12 <dub>	yes, 6 people, 6 days, 10k
Mar 03 20:33:18 <mircea_popescu>	list it
Mar 03 20:33:20 <mircea_popescu>	LTC-BARF
Mar 03 20:33:31 <Bowjob>	apparently we have a new ASIC company that is ready to ship
Mar 03 20:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	about the same size as eskimo's thing
Mar 03 20:33:48 <Bowjob>	this one's from hungary
Mar 03 20:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob which one is that ?
Mar 03 20:33:49 <BitHub>	where can i place a bet that coinlab will be out of business by end of year?
Mar 03 20:33:56 <Bowjob>	PrimeAsic
Mar 03 20:34:06 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148832.0
Mar 03 20:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub on bitbet, if you can well define out of business
Mar 03 20:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	iirc jurov tried
Mar 03 20:34:30 <BitHub>	well maybe not out of business
Mar 03 20:34:35 <BitHub>	what i want to bet on this being a huge fail
Mar 03 20:35:22 <dub>	theres only $633 worth of whiskey listed here, I don't think thats accurate
Mar 03 20:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	hm, actually hungary, might be worth a visit.
Mar 03 20:35:46 <dub>	I recall at least 4 bottles that where brought from home
Mar 03 20:36:29 <BitHub>	oh that's cool
Mar 03 20:36:35 <BitHub>	wish i live near hungary
Mar 03 20:36:36 <Bowjob>	if its legit, I'll fly over there to pick a couple of them
Mar 03 20:36:43 <BitHub>	i would sell my car today and go get one tomorrow
Mar 03 20:36:48 <Bowjob>	I don't know the price yet
Mar 03 20:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	i could be in budapest literally by sunup
Mar 03 20:37:31 <mircea_popescu>	but meh... worth it ?
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Mar 03 20:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	~300 km awai
Mar 03 20:38:43 <BitHub>	really?
Mar 03 20:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	yes really.
Mar 03 20:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	that's why i live here, it's close to shit.
Mar 03 20:40:19 <BitHub>	i live in a fuck hole
Mar 03 20:40:27 <BitHub>	where everything is expensive
Mar 03 20:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	sucks. move to yurp
Mar 03 20:40:40 <BitHub>	i'm trying
Mar 03 20:40:40 <dub>	mircea_popescu: I thought it was teh lion/bear licesning regime
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Mar 03 20:41:01 <mircea_popescu>	dub huh ?!
Mar 03 20:41:02 <BitHub>	:D
Mar 03 20:41:07 <dub>	http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/27/lions-bears-removed-from-romanian-gangsters-property/
Mar 03 20:41:07 <BitHub>	couch
Mar 03 20:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 03 20:41:28 <dub>	I heard that on the radio a few days ago, first thought 'wonder if mp shows up on irc today'
Mar 03 20:41:34 <BitHub>	better not touch my pet tiger
Mar 03 20:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 03 20:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	the idea that you need a permit for stuff is certainly new here
Mar 03 20:42:16 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck, permits.
Mar 03 20:43:24 <BitHub>	bit of a long shot but would anyone be able to help me out and send one of those to Australia?
Mar 03 20:44:29 <mircea_popescu>	this stuff is a mess to export
Mar 03 20:44:44 <BitHub>	yeah thats true
Mar 03 20:44:54 <BitHub>	customs will probably take it and start mining themselves
Mar 03 20:44:56 <BitHub>	pricks
Mar 03 20:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
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Mar 03 20:47:28 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: You are beginning to see some of the strange contradictory nature of the asicminer people, I think, that I've been complaining about for months.
Mar 03 20:47:48 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic perhaps. what specifically ?
Mar 03 20:48:30 <mircea_popescu>	o, asicminer not asic miners. yeah.
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Mar 03 20:49:01 <dub>	why is it a mess to export?
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Mar 03 20:49:28 <dub>	its a computer, we have been shipping these around the place for a wee while now
Mar 03 20:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	dub ya well, maybe it's a bomb
Mar 03 20:50:12 <dub>	customs can test for bombliness
Mar 03 20:50:45 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it's a nuclear bomb producing item
Mar 03 20:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it'll fuck their mothers.
Mar 03 20:51:16 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: You mentioned earlier that they are behaving fraudulently-like.. This is permeating more than just the way they are handling their stocks, but elsewhere as well, and it's troubling because unethical people in their position, could conceivably have done a much larger order to start with than what they are reporting, and the attraction of doing double-spends is quite large if, indeed, the evidence is correct when
Mar 03 20:51:22 <midnightmagic>	it points to short-term thinking.
Mar 03 20:52:03 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic well, i don't know the whole thing, but from this angle it looks more like they're clueless/haven't been thinking things through/haven't slept in weeks
Mar 03 20:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	tho its quite possible they're ill intended too, sure.
Mar 03 20:52:30 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I would be very interested to hear from you if you discover that they aren't just clueless, but seemingly deliberately clueless.
Mar 03 20:52:43 <dub>	they are chinese
Mar 03 20:52:47 <midnightmagic>	Or if you begin to make observations that suggest it is not pure ignorance.
Mar 03 20:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	i'll certinly say something
Mar 03 20:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	but so far my belief is they just don't understand finance
Mar 03 20:53:07 <mircea_popescu>	which is in fact common so.
Mar 03 20:53:21 <midnightmagic>	dub: And yet ngzhang is one of the most ethical businesspeople I've seen in a long time.
Mar 03 20:53:34 <mircea_popescu>	i dun think chineseness has much to do with anything
Mar 03 20:53:38 <dub>	midnightmagic: I'll assume you're being facetious?
Mar 03 20:53:41 <midnightmagic>	dub: Being Chinese doesn't really mean much.
Mar 03 20:53:51 <midnightmagic>	dub: I am not. ngzhang is extremely ethical, or else Icarus wouldn't exist.
Mar 03 20:54:00 <dub>	lets deal with teh first question, my mind is somewhat boggling
Mar 03 20:54:05 <mircea_popescu>	there's plenty of scummy americans, iranians, turks and eskimos in this world
Mar 03 20:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	and plenty of trustworthy same etc.
Mar 03 20:54:18 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Eskimos don't like being called Eskimos. :)
Mar 03 20:54:21 *	midnightmagic ducks.
Mar 03 20:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 03 20:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	well whatever, inuits. northern russian people.
Mar 03 20:54:37 <dub>	midnightmagic: this is the the same dude involved in avalon right? the 'we shipped' guy
Mar 03 20:55:43 <midnightmagic>	dub: The "we shipped and they're sitting in customs at the beginning of CNY." and also , "Geez, with all this negativity, maybe we'll just be quiet until there's actually something to talk about." guys..
Mar 03 20:56:53 <midnightmagic>	dub: Also the latest update, "Rest of the units will have been shipped by around Mar 10, everyone should have batch #1 in hand by about mid-March" people.
Mar 03 20:57:39 <dub>	pitty they're not 'here are the tracking numbers' people though really
Mar 03 20:58:09 <dub>	anyway, being chinese decreases ones ability to think strategically and reason counterfactually
Mar 03 20:58:34 <dub>	this is a genetic/language thing thats been done to death
Mar 03 20:58:39 <midnightmagic>	...  I can't actually tell if you're serious.
Mar 03 20:59:08 <midnightmagic>	If you're jerking my chain, your delivery is too dry.
Mar 03 20:59:19 <dub>	im not, try meeting some chinese people
Mar 03 20:59:34 <dub>	I hear there are a couple up your way
Mar 03 21:00:41 <midnightmagic>	And how do you know I'm not Chinese origin?
Mar 03 21:01:27 <dub>	we'll I don't but based on past discussions I think its rather unlikely
Mar 03 21:01:47 <dub>	you are far too empathetic for one
Mar 03 21:03:01 <kakobrekla>	https://twitter.com/BitBets
Mar 03 21:03:03 <kakobrekla>	https://twitter.com/BitBetsBets
Mar 03 21:03:05 <midnightmagic>	dub: I'm at a loss here to meaningfully discuss this with you. I don't know where to start. If you're serious, I'm fairly sure we are so alien that there is basically no common ground on which to meaningfully converse for this topic.
Mar 03 21:03:06 <kakobrekla>	fyi
Mar 03 21:03:07 <dub>	anyway, if you remove any racist overtones you have automatically inferred, it explains a lot about the comms we've seen from avalon and asicminer
Mar 03 21:03:11 <kakobrekla>	no spam.
Mar 03 21:03:30 <midnightmagic>	dub: I haven't called you a racist yet.
Mar 03 21:03:57 <dub>	midnightmagic: you're gettign there, its par for the course with you (you'd make a terrible anthropologist)
Mar 03 21:04:46 <midnightmagic>	dub: Is it now. I'm..  glad you're paying such close attention to my activity that you think you have me pegged.
Mar 03 21:04:48 <kakobrekla>	ZOMG https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93445.msg1580072#msg1580072
Mar 03 21:05:51 <dub>	midnightmagic: I don't really have time to go through this, there is quite a bit of literature out there
Mar 03 21:05:53 <kakobrekla>	During the BDT experience, because i was very concerned about the high interest bond and the lack of supporting high revenues i've made the decision (unethical, possibly illegal) to repurpose some of the funds raised with the IPO.
Mar 03 21:05:54 <kakobrekla>	Those funds were invested through some chinese partners of mine in asic equipment.
Mar 03 21:06:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0059 = 0.0295 BTC [+]
Mar 03 21:06:49 <midnightmagic>	dub: Much of the literature usually cited to conclude such things has been thoroughly debunked, so perhaps someday when you're willing to cite, after making such assertions, I'd be glad to read and evaluate such studies.
Mar 03 21:06:55 <dub>	midnightmagic: regarding the chinese, not your culteral naivety
Mar 03 21:08:11 <dub>	yes, well I'm more of an experience guy than a take debunkment at face value guy. Dorkins calls it the belief gene, though I don't really believe it exists.
Mar 03 21:08:23 <midnightmagic>	dub: Making negative assertions about the person you are having a discussion with is not usually productive. I'm readjusting my evaluation of your random, seemingly-connected comments post-statement.
Mar 03 21:08:48 <dub>	midnightmagic: its an observation grounded in experience, not a negative assertion
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Mar 03 21:09:13 <midnightmagic>	dub: I'm fairly sure your evaluation of my cultural "naivete" is based on incomplete data.
Mar 03 21:10:01 <midnightmagic>	dub: Also, if you are an experience guy, then why are you pointing to external data as the foundation of your assertions rather than just your experience?
Mar 03 21:10:17 <dub>	midnightmagic: thats easy, it closely mirrors what I have observed
Mar 03 21:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> this is a genetic/language thing thats been done to death << it's not genetic, it's cultural.
Mar 03 21:10:31 <midnightmagic>	dub: I'll presume you are aware of the notion of confirmation bias.
Mar 03 21:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	whoop, you just did it :D
Mar 03 21:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> Those funds were invested through some chinese partners of mine in asic equipment. <<< ahaha epic
Mar 03 21:12:32 <dub>	midnightmagic: and I'f I were a victim of that would I need to have read about this before or after observing it?
Mar 03 21:13:17 <midnightmagic>	dub: ALl that's required is that you reject well-grounded studies that disagree with your opinion, while selecting out those studies which agree with it or reinforce it in some fashion.
Mar 03 21:13:59 <dub>	I guess at some point, some people like to actually form an opinion
Mar 03 21:15:19 <midnightmagic>	dub: Sure, course. Nothing wrong with an opinion so long as data can update it.
Mar 03 21:16:11 <dub>	the problem is you can likely produce data to refute any opinion as can I
Mar 03 21:16:37 *	mircea_popescu is popcorning this one.
Mar 03 21:16:57 <midnightmagic>	dub: Lots of people think that, but it is also possible to assess the quality of the data. So, IMO, no, it's not possible to find quality data which refutes any opinion.
Mar 03 21:17:17 <midnightmagic>	dub: Or rather, it's not possible for me..
Mar 03 21:18:53 <dub>	i'd like to continue this and know it looks like weasling out
Mar 03 21:19:04 <dub>	but im not in a meeting, on teh phone, and working to a thight deadline
Mar 03 21:19:10 <dub>	/snot/now
Mar 03 21:19:17 <midnightmagic>	I'm sorry you think that. You should realise that the implication is that I am aserting my mind can be changed.
Mar 03 21:19:19 <dub>	and typing without looking at my screen
Mar 03 21:20:52 <midnightmagic>	Unlike most people, I am not interested (this time) in simply honing my ability to refute. If and when you come up with actual cites, I'd be happy to look them up. I still have fulltext research credentials at the local university.
Mar 03 21:22:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.29 = 0.87 BTC [-]
Mar 03 21:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	now how'dja get that eh ? by exploiting the masses
Mar 03 21:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	by 'olding on to outdated imperialist dogma
Mar 03 21:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	which perpetuates the social and economic differences
Mar 03 21:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	within our society.
Mar 03 21:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	If there's ever going to be any progress...
Mar 03 21:25:01 <midnightmagic>	dub: Also, stop asserting stupid things about me.
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Mar 03 21:28:41 <BitHub>	so what happened with sdice divs?
Mar 03 21:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen evoorhees
Mar 03 21:29:34 <gribble>	evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, 55 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <evoorhees> perfect
Mar 03 21:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	well, contract says they got till the 5th
Mar 03 21:29:57 <BitHub>	hmm
Mar 03 21:30:45 <dub>	midnightmagic: a little while ago there was a conversation where you appeared to be floored by the notion that in some locations/cultures the base assumption of a strangers actions being altruistic was false
Mar 03 21:31:30 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I wonder if bitcoiners are going to experiment with different governance rules / contracts than you usually see in the real world. Which is usually majority of shares.
Mar 03 21:31:36 <midnightmagic>	dub: I was floored by the fact that it was so *in that specific locale*.
Mar 03 21:32:08 <dub>	midnightmagic: its not the only time you have appeared to me to base your arguments around a world view couched in priviledged western culture
Mar 03 21:33:21 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I guess mircea_popescu pledges to be the benevolent dictator of MPEx forever, after reading a bit through the contract.
Mar 03 21:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu let me dig that out for you
Mar 03 21:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/so-whats-the-plan-with-mpoempex/
Mar 03 21:34:25 <error4733>	haha mp you made my day ! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1517002#msg1517002
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Mar 03 21:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu also, re the rules etc, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-mpex-rota/ http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rota-post-mortem/
Mar 03 21:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 lol
Mar 03 21:35:35 <mircea_popescu>	if at least he had the guts to post something like "Same"
Mar 03 21:35:41 <mircea_popescu>	that'd have earned him some respect
Mar 03 21:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	but... weasels everywhere.
Mar 03 21:35:57 <dub>	midnightmagic: my memory of it is different, I don't think we were discussing a specific place, only the existence of such places
Mar 03 21:36:01 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes i suspect there's like five balls in three ballsacks available in the entire continental us.
Mar 03 21:36:36 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, did Silk Road ever approach you? To get listed, raise money and so forth.
Mar 03 21:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	i've not made a comment on the topic so far.
Mar 03 21:37:15 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I see.
Mar 03 21:37:23 <dub>	anyway, if I don't want this PM to actually climb up my ass I need to deliver some shit so I'm closing this term
Mar 03 21:37:37 *	Eduard_Munteanu was also reading on your stuff on SEC regulation
Mar 03 21:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Mar 03 21:37:58 <midnightmagic>	dub: It is a cultural perversion of what appears to be the most successful strategy for human progress.
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Mar 03 21:39:26 <BitHub>	good read mircea
Mar 03 21:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	;)
Mar 03 21:41:35 <BitHub>	take the girls up and down the river? wtf
Mar 03 21:41:50 <BitHub>	i thought you were talkig about your daughters or something, till i click on the pics lul wtf
Mar 03 21:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	im not married / don't have kids.
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Mar 03 21:42:33 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hmm, you know... they also said underground resources belong to the state... wouldn't surprise me if they deem Bitcoin mining a national resource as well. :)
Mar 03 21:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	that'll be very much their problem entirely.
Mar 03 21:42:56 <BitHub>	lul and these girls are your friends and you just hang out wtih them?
Mar 03 21:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub im hung so i hang.
Mar 03 21:43:54 <BitHub>	making a porno or something?
Mar 03 21:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	to quote, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2009/eu-am-un-succes-nebun-la-femei/
Mar 03 21:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	(nu means no)
Mar 03 21:44:37 <BitHub>	i hope that's me in 5 years haha
Mar 03 21:45:13 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Heh.
Mar 03 21:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	why wait five years, i always say.
Mar 03 21:46:06 <BitHub>	trying to be realistic
Mar 03 21:46:25 <BitHub>	it did just give me a huge boost of motivation tho
Mar 03 21:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	srsly, girls are easy. you just have to make them feel safe they'll do anything.
Mar 03 21:47:32 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Like investors. :P
Mar 03 21:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Mar 03 21:47:59 <BitHub>	money first, then girls
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Mar 03 21:53:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1134 = 0.2268 BTC [+]
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Mar 03 21:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 8 @ 0.29248665 = 2.3399 BTC [+]
Mar 03 21:55:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22360455 = 223.6046 BTC [-]
Mar 03 21:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.19808896 = 198.089 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 22:08:19 <Chaang-Noi>	BitHub> money first, then girls       (this does work well)
Mar 03 22:08:45 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone happen to know off the top of their head how many avolons were made in batch one? or the total hashing power?
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Mar 03 22:14:00 <thestringpuller>	approx 200
Mar 03 22:14:26 <thestringpuller>	based on a 500,000 NRE cost on the chips I assume there will be at least 600 total on the first "batch" of chips
Mar 03 22:14:29 <thestringpuller>	why do you want to know?
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Mar 03 22:19:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i want to know how much asic miner shares are worth
Mar 03 22:22:19 <Chaang-Noi>	600 times 60 ghs....
Mar 03 22:22:42 <Chaang-Noi>	that is a lot, hmm
Mar 03 22:23:06 <Chaang-Noi>	just wonder if bfl will fail hard, are they still bumping or whatever?
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Mar 03 22:27:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550011 = 5.5001 BTC [-]
Mar 03 22:27:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0055001 = 2.7501 BTC [-]
Mar 03 22:36:06 <dub>	midnightmagic: indeed, saw an interesting article about the very young having much greater altrustic tendancies which increases survival odds in an 'all the adults are dead' scenario
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Mar 03 22:47:20 <midnightmagic>	dub: I'm trying to dig up the log because I'm curious what I was thinking at the time. I've actually grown up in a place (yes, they exist even in Canada) where one must assume the stranger is evil.
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Mar 03 22:47:30 <midnightmagic>	dub: Do you have any more keywords for me to search on?
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Mar 03 22:51:28 <dub>	midnightmagic: egrep -i '(dub.*eastern.*europe)' \#bitcoin-assets.log
Mar 03 22:51:38 <midnightmagic>	thanks
Mar 03 22:51:51 <midnightmagic>	stupid split logs anyway..
Mar 03 22:52:07 <dub>	amusing false positive: 29-11-12-13:45<mircea_popescu> kakobreklaaa it's sharpie in pooper you person of dubious eastern european origin you
Mar 03 22:52:28 <dub>	midnightmagic: 12-12-12-20:59
Mar 03 22:52:41 <dub>	thats US eastern
Mar 03 22:53:09 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Mar 03 22:55:47 <midnightmagic>	dub: *AWESOME* you just found for me the reference to the mpoe-pr boob pic that I've been searching for forever.
Mar 03 22:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol ?!
Mar 03 22:56:07 <dub>	we aim to please
Mar 03 22:56:24 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Hey man, in that log on that day you're talking about that boobpic I've been trying to grep for forever.
Mar 03 22:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Mar 03 22:57:29 <mircea_popescu>	you've prolly given bithub even more determination charges.
Mar 03 22:57:49 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Who me?
Mar 03 22:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	yes you.
Mar 03 22:58:04 <midnightmagic>	What are determination charges?
Mar 03 22:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	"<BitHub> it did just give me a huge boost of motivation tho"
Mar 03 22:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	i guess i used the wrong word
Mar 03 23:01:33 <midnightmagic>	dub: All I see is "[18:01:08] <midnightmagic> dub: What a horrible way to live, in constant fear." I guess all I can say is that's not a statement born of ignorance.
Mar 03 23:01:54 <midnightmagic>	I may have been quoting blade runner.
Mar 03 23:03:30 <midnightmagic>	(alternatively)
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Mar 03 23:04:15 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 03 23:04:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.42598, Best ask: 34.57010, Bid-ask spread: 0.14412, Last trade: 34.42349, 24 hour volume: 14866.21945414, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.21380
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Mar 03 23:10:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 72000 @ 0.00175 = 126 BTC [-]
Mar 03 23:10:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00196988 = 0.9849 BTC [+]
Mar 03 23:10:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 555 @ 0.00196989 = 1.0933 BTC [+]
Mar 03 23:10:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1945 @ 0.00197 = 3.8317 BTC [+]
Mar 03 23:11:47 <Bowjob>	dice took a beating today
Mar 03 23:12:30 <pigeons>	up 10% from yesterday
Mar 03 23:13:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.00999 = 0.3497 BTC [+]
Mar 03 23:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Mar 03 23:16:28 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Mar 03 23:16:30 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00175 / 0.00175879 / 0.00197 (75000 shares, 131.91 BTC), 7D: 0.00175 / 0.00177002 / 0.00197 (79299 shares, 140.36 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00165663 / 0.00197 (127408 shares, 211.07 BTC)
Mar 03 23:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol more than half the month;s volume
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Mar 03 23:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	(28+74) * 1.1/1.5
Mar 03 23:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (28+74) * 1.1/1.5
Mar 03 23:20:11 <gribble>	74.8
Mar 03 23:22:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 29 @ 0.0059 = 0.1711 BTC [+]
Mar 03 23:23:04 <Bowjob>	I got out of dice just before it came tumbling
Mar 03 23:23:10 <Bowjob>	im pissed I have900 shares left..
Mar 03 23:23:13 <Bowjob>	>_>
Mar 03 23:24:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 70 @ 0.099 = 6.93 BTC [-]
Mar 03 23:27:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00550001 = 11 BTC [-]
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Mar 03 23:30:32 <midnightmagic>	Why's SD tanking..?
Mar 03 23:30:42 <midnightmagic>	..  er..  if it's tanking.
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Mar 03 23:33:07 <Bowjob>	BTC is getting more and more valuable
Mar 03 23:33:13 <Bowjob>	and less and less people bet
Mar 03 23:36:13 <maximian>	less and less people bet? Doesn't look like it
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Mar 03 23:36:39 <maximian>	head over to http:///blockchain.info
Mar 03 23:36:57 <maximian>	it's the SatoshiDice show
Mar 03 23:37:31 <maximian>	Bitcoin should be renamed "Satoshi Dice presents Bitcoin"
Mar 03 23:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 03 23:38:48 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic i think people are shifty yet.
Mar 03 23:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	after 2 years of pretty much nothing but scam after scam after scam many feel uneasy about keeping btc invested in same place
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Mar 03 23:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	you know the joke about the guy who cashed his bank account because he wanted to count his money ? something of the sort.
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Mar 03 23:40:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7 @ 0.00077068 = 0.0054 BTC [-]
Mar 03 23:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 493 @ 0.00077068 = 0.3799 BTC [-]
Mar 03 23:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00550001 = 11 BTC [-]
Mar 03 23:42:46 <midnightmagic>	hrm. interesting.
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Mar 03 23:51:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550001 = 5.5 BTC [-]
Mar 03 23:51:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 700 @ 0.0059 = 4.13 BTC [+]
Mar 03 23:52:17 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 03 23:52:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.60667, Best ask: 34.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00333, Last trade: 34.61000, 24 hour volume: 14786.71661983, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.22162
Mar 03 23:52:25 <Bowjob>	 hm
Mar 03 23:55:28 <Bowjob>	low volume
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Mar 04 00:05:42 <Namworld>	mircea_popescu &/or kakobrekla
Mar 04 00:05:49 <Namworld>	Any of you around?
Mar 04 00:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	yea ?
Mar 04 00:08:15 <Namworld>	BBET statement says 5.44167918 BTC to be distributed as dividends. On 10 million shares, that's like 54.4 satoshi per share, but MPEx shows 32 satoshi per share. What's with that?
Mar 04 00:09:11 <iz>	;;ticker
Mar 04 00:09:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.45894, Best ask: 34.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04106, Last trade: 34.50000, 24 hour volume: 15041.28017977, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.22749
Mar 04 00:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld mpex got confused by the mistaken notion that 5mn shares are actually out
Mar 04 00:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	in reality only 3 are
Mar 04 00:23:27 <Namworld>	odd
Mar 04 00:24:41 <Namworld>	So long as the amount shown in my stats are good. But odd for the display.
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Mar 04 01:03:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.61 = 2.44 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 01:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	"с умопомрачительным дизайном и таким же юзабилити :)"
Mar 04 01:34:56 <mircea_popescu>	ok, who dunnit!
Mar 04 01:53:30 <swhitt>	me
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Mar 04 02:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	for shame
Mar 04 02:08:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.0059 = 0.885 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 02:10:01 <molecular>	anyone know what's the holdup with paying out the march 1st bfl bet http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ ?
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Mar 04 02:11:36 <Bowjob>	http://www.unifycall.com/update/3avalon.jpg
Mar 04 02:13:44 <Bugpowder>	Molecular. That bet paid out already
Mar 04 02:14:29 <Bugpowder>	There was some issues with transaction size limits, info in a triilrma post
Mar 04 02:14:47 <molecular>	Bugpowder, oh
Mar 04 02:15:04 <Bugpowder>	I got my coins
Mar 04 02:15:07 <Bugpowder>	At least
Mar 04 02:15:10 <molecular>	Bugpowder, me too. lol
Mar 04 02:15:25 <molecular>	Bugpowder, I thought it'd state the payouts on the site... rechecking, maybe I just overlooked
Mar 04 02:15:46 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: what the hell man where's that
Mar 04 02:15:49 <Bugpowder>	1mb was too small for the total transaction!  Had to be split
Mar 04 02:15:59 <Bowjob>	China
Mar 04 02:16:05 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: Oh. I guess I knew that.
Mar 04 02:16:07 <Bowjob>	The dude now has 5 of those babies
Mar 04 02:16:17 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: One of their Chinese customers stripped it apart I think and took a picture.
Mar 04 02:16:26 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 04 02:16:30 <Bowjob>	ballsy move
Mar 04 02:16:35 <midnightmagic>	very, imo
Mar 04 02:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	molecular ya was paid like 2 days ago
Mar 04 02:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	or 3
Mar 04 02:16:54 <Bowjob>	when i get mine, id be making $30 a day lol
Mar 04 02:17:09 <Bowjob>	I just hope BFL fucks up again, just pleaseee
Mar 04 02:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 04 02:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	what's the april one at
Mar 04 02:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	60ish not bad
Mar 04 02:17:59 <Bowjob>	looks like avalon will deliver their promise by april 1st
Mar 04 02:18:06 <Bowjob>	not sure on bfl
Mar 04 02:18:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [+]
Mar 04 02:18:38 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: Last update said something about all b#1 orders will have been shipped by mar 10, and everyone should have them by mid- to end of march..
Mar 04 02:18:57 <mircea_popescu>	so then bet is right on point
Mar 04 02:19:01 <midnightmagic>	I really never thought Avalon would beat them all to the punch like this.
Mar 04 02:19:23 <midnightmagic>	I threw some orders at them just for the appreciation of their work with Icarus.
Mar 04 02:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic it's an avalon/asicminer tie so far, apparently.
Mar 04 02:19:37 <Bowjob>	so its avalon 1, then bfl 1.. then avalon 2?
Mar 04 02:19:39 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: *technically* Avalon boxes started hashing first. :)
Mar 04 02:20:02 <Bowjob>	then theres this hungarian company that apparently made an asic as well
Mar 04 02:20:02 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: And in the hands of actual customers..
Mar 04 02:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	okay, but you need eyeglasses to separate it
Mar 04 02:20:09 <Bowjob>	available for pick up
Mar 04 02:20:18 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: Is that Reclaimer?
Mar 04 02:20:26 <midnightmagic>	I thought he was russian..
Mar 04 02:20:32 <Bowjob>	no
Mar 04 02:20:40 <midnightmagic>	Not Tycho then.
Mar 04 02:20:46 <Bowjob>	primeasic
Mar 04 02:21:06 <Bowjob>	hungary.. is it a safe place?
Mar 04 02:21:12 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: There's also a 22nm asic SOC vendor that's farming out chips to board designers.
Mar 04 02:21:24 <Bowjob>	yeah, yifu is interested in that as well
Mar 04 02:21:28 <Bowjob>	in sweden i think
Mar 04 02:21:57 <Bowjob>	mining competition is gonna be really tough this year
Mar 04 02:22:08 <Bowjob>	my electricity costs are 10 cents per kwh
Mar 04 02:23:27 <Bowjob>	well, its 6.8 cents for the first 1350 KW, then the rest is billed at 10.12 cents thereafter
Mar 04 02:23:28 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 04 02:23:36 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: I'm currently at 0.0865 CAD/KwH
Mar 04 02:23:43 <midnightmagic>	or..  kWh or whatever.
Mar 04 02:23:48 <Bowjob>	where
Mar 04 02:24:10 <Bowjob>	electricity doesnt matter at this point.. not yet anyway
Mar 04 02:24:11 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: consumer wins, we just have to time our buys right..
Mar 04 02:24:14 <Bowjob>	its the first who gets the asic
Mar 04 02:24:40 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: I suspect if we care about power consumption now, we'll end up winning in the long run. They're all priced approximately the same.
Mar 04 02:27:10 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: There's an *enormous* wave of mining customers coming soon-ish due to the sudden tidal wave price. Getting in line at this point for summertime asic is going to be a bad move..
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Mar 04 02:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 17 @ 0.00560002 = 0.0952 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 02:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	getting in line is always a bad move.
Mar 04 02:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is this even, "getting in line"
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Mar 04 02:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6115 @ 0.00076564 = 4.6819 BTC [-]
Mar 04 02:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00077068 = 3.391 BTC [+]
Mar 04 02:56:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1357 @ 0.00077069 = 1.0458 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 03:06:21 <Chaang-Noi>	who here holds ltc :)
Mar 04 03:07:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00983 = 0.0983 BTC [-]
Mar 04 03:08:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.009821 = 0.108 BTC [-]
Mar 04 03:08:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 28 @ 0.0075 = 0.21 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 03:18:43 <ThickAssLaptop>	i hold ltc y
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Mar 04 03:55:35 <Chaang-Noi>	8 cents to 13 cents in a few hours:)
Mar 04 04:00:41 <BitHub>	could someone please help me get a PrimeAsic
Mar 04 04:01:05 <BitHub>	i will send my wife as down payment
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Mar 04 04:41:32 <Zedster>	LTC is the new NVC :)
Mar 04 04:42:16 <Zedster>	PrimeASIC hasn't even posted a price let alone a product
Mar 04 04:42:54 <Zedster>	anyone from BTC-e ever here?
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Mar 04 04:50:42 <BitHub>	i'm ready to give PrimeASIC my house
Mar 04 04:50:51 <BitHub>	based purely on faith and hope
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Mar 04 04:52:21 <Zedster>	hehe how about Lightning Miner 4.0???
Mar 04 04:52:34 <BitHub>	SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!
Mar 04 04:52:40 <Zedster>	hehee
Mar 04 04:53:11 <BitHub>	even if its legit i cant get one anyway, too far
Mar 04 04:53:32 <Zedster>	thats what i say about BTC...everytime I tried to buy BTC it takes days instead of minutes
Mar 04 04:53:49 <Zedster>	whats? too far?
Mar 04 04:54:21 <BitHub>	PrimeAsic
Mar 04 04:55:15 <Zedster>	13 hour for me and I think 80GHs @ 800 watts...gotta see a picture first
Mar 04 04:56:27 <Zedster>	i can't unstand today how there are not more pictures of these things....thats what makes ya wonder...everyone has a camera in their pocket
Mar 04 04:56:42 <Zedster>	understand*
Mar 04 04:56:57 <BitHub>	really?
Mar 04 04:57:51 <thepok>	iam sure its a scam
Mar 04 04:58:08 <thepok>	they fake some visitors
Mar 04 04:58:08 <Zedster>	which?
Mar 04 04:58:20 <thepok>	and than sell millions worth online and are gone
Mar 04 04:58:33 <thepok>	primeasic
Mar 04 04:58:54 <Zedster>	too many people too close to budpest with the address now
Mar 04 04:59:06 <Zedster>	budapest
Mar 04 04:59:28 <thepok>	yeah me too
Mar 04 04:59:30 <thepok>	700 km
Mar 04 04:59:36 <thepok>	iam tempted
Mar 04 04:59:41 <BitHub>	haha
Mar 04 04:59:53 <BitHub>	lucky guys
Mar 04 05:00:02 <Zedster>	gotta see the price could be unreal
Mar 04 05:00:05 <thepok>	lucky europeans ;D
Mar 04 05:00:12 <BitHub>	what the hell am i doing in australia when i could live near budapest :(
Mar 04 05:00:32 <Zedster>	ewww BitHub stay where yoour at
Mar 04 05:00:45 <BitHub>	apparently they going to ship world wide?
Mar 04 05:01:19 <Zedster>	yep
Mar 04 05:01:27 <BitHub>	omg yes, i might have a chance
Mar 04 05:01:42 *	BitHub unties his family "it's okey guys"
Mar 04 05:01:52 <Zedster>	you have no BFL preorders?
Mar 04 05:01:57 <Zedster>	hehe
Mar 04 05:01:57 <BitHub>	nope
Mar 04 05:02:01 <BitHub>	or avalon :(
Mar 04 05:02:17 <Zedster>	me either I just invested
Mar 04 05:02:24 <BitHub>	lul same man
Mar 04 05:02:48 <Zedster>	safer that way until we thing how things go really..
Mar 04 05:02:49 <BitHub>	i just hope that this is legit and i can order one
Mar 04 05:03:44 <Zedster>	I think the whole Lightning Miner 4.0 is much more interesting... a better soap opera
Mar 04 05:03:46 <thepok>	just build your own asic  with apes ;D ape specif intigrated design ;D
Mar 04 05:04:31 <BitHub>	to learn another new thing right now, might cause a melt down.
Mar 04 05:05:17 <Zedster>	you haven't seen this? http://www.multiversecomputers.com/Mining-Products.html
Mar 04 05:06:07 <BitHub>	nope
Mar 04 05:06:34 <BitHub>	is this legit? hah
Mar 04 05:07:04 <Zedster>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148685.0
Mar 04 05:07:33 <Zedster>	I have gotten a reply from them
Mar 04 05:07:52 <Zedster>	They are swearin up and down they are legit
Mar 04 05:08:59 <BitHub>	you could always pay with CC and do a chargeback
Mar 04 05:10:02 <BitHub>	apparently that link doesn't work but the mtgox merchant one does.
Mar 04 05:10:36 <Zedster>	international is BTC only
Mar 04 05:11:18 <BitHub>	let's go x 10
Mar 04 05:11:48 <Zedster>	he says he will stop making the little ones on the 25th and switch to just his Mammoth miner....
Mar 04 05:12:37 <Zedster>	he says he is going to give some of the mammaths to people for testing soon
Mar 04 05:12:43 <Zedster>	yes give
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Mar 04 05:14:53 <BitHub>	okey dokey
Mar 04 05:15:05 <BitHub>	how much are they suppose to be?
Mar 04 05:17:33 <Zedster>	no price yet output 280K? it says Meaning 2.8THs? the word bitcoin is never said on in the advertisement
Mar 04 05:17:41 <Zedster>	it's a bit miner
Mar 04 05:17:54 <Zedster>	it's quite a story
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Mar 04 05:30:42 <BitHub>	i just ordered one of the x 10
Mar 04 05:30:46 *	BitHub crosses fingers
Mar 04 05:32:59 <thepok>	oh no
Mar 04 05:33:03 <thepok>	sure a scam
Mar 04 05:33:12 <thepok>	i hope you didnt pay with btc?
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Mar 04 05:38:52 <Zedster>	i didn't pay anything
Mar 04 05:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00597988 = 2.6909 BTC [+]
Mar 04 05:45:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3450 @ 0.00597988 = 20.6306 BTC [+]
Mar 04 05:46:01 <Zedster>	BitHub: wow just saw that...did you really?
Mar 04 05:46:22 <BitHub>	yeah you said it was okey?
Mar 04 05:46:36 <Zedster>	LOL yeah blame it on me
Mar 04 05:46:49 <BitHub>	i told my daughter it'll be okey, i can mine back her college fund
Mar 04 05:47:22 <Zedster>	yeah I I will throw my Nvidia card in the pool to help
Mar 04 05:48:11 <Zedster>	we gonna be rich huny!
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Mar 04 05:50:09 <BitHub>	zedster
Mar 04 05:50:17 <BitHub>	there's a price up for Primeasic
Mar 04 05:50:36 <Zedster>	1249
Mar 04 05:50:54 <BitHub>	whats that in us
Mar 04 05:51:07 <BitHub>	well more importantly btc
Mar 04 05:51:58 <Zedster>	around 1900 usd
Mar 04 05:52:13 <BitHub>	oh
Mar 04 05:52:18 <Zedster>	1878.75
Mar 04 05:52:25 <BitHub>	i got 1624 here
Mar 04 05:52:31 <Zedster>	sorry!
Mar 04 05:52:43 <Zedster>	that was from pound
Mar 04 05:52:45 <Zedster>	oops
Mar 04 05:53:24 <Zedster>	1624
Mar 04 05:53:50 <BitHub>	;;calc 1232/35.07
Mar 04 05:53:50 <gribble>	35.129740519
Mar 04 05:54:06 <BitHub>	hmmm
Mar 04 05:54:51 <Zedster>	i just see the price in the forum i don't see the site...do you have an url?
Mar 04 05:55:21 <BitHub>	primeasic.com
Mar 04 05:55:50 <Zedster>	ok the obv one
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Mar 04 06:07:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.4767 = 0.9534 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 06:13:11 <Bowjob>	jesus
Mar 04 06:13:13 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 04 06:13:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.89918, Best ask: 34.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02082, Last trade: 34.89918, 24 hour volume: 21405.00870614, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.92000, 24 hour vwap: 34.46282
Mar 04 06:13:16 <Bowjob>	Wooo
Mar 04 06:13:17 <Bowjob>	h
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Mar 04 06:16:48 <Chaang-Noi>	new ath 34.92
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Mar 04 06:25:26 <Bowjob>	hey chang
Mar 04 06:25:38 <Bowjob>	asics are for sale now 1294 euros
Mar 04 06:25:41 <Bowjob>	.. in hungary
Mar 04 06:26:52 <Bowjob>	wanna go there?
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Mar 04 06:31:10 <jurov>	;;asks 35
Mar 04 06:31:15 <gribble>	There are currently 4624.9521 bitcoins offered at or under 35.0 USD, worth 161818.959495 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
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Mar 04 06:32:37 <jurov>	data vintage lol
Mar 04 06:32:52 <Bowjob>	Avalon could be obsolete quick
Mar 04 06:32:54 <Bowjob>	:/
Mar 04 06:33:19 <jurov>	i'll try to call tomorrow, but seems they'll be overloaded
Mar 04 06:33:24 <Bowjob>	Aight, I'm getting out of dice.
Mar 04 06:33:29 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob they had a price?
Mar 04 06:33:32 <Bowjob>	someone buy my shares at havelock
Mar 04 06:33:33 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 04 06:33:43 <jurov>	here: http://primeasic.com/
Mar 04 06:33:53 <Chaang-Noi>	how many do they have in stock?
Mar 04 06:33:59 <jurov>	nobody knows
Mar 04 06:34:08 <jurov>	no photos, anything
Mar 04 06:34:16 <Bowjob>	we dont know
Mar 04 06:34:33 <Bowjob>	i was wondering if i could go with a bitcointalk memeber.. go to hungary and buy it ourselves
Mar 04 06:34:51 <Bowjob>	I'll grab maybe 2
Mar 04 06:34:53 <Bowjob>	depending
Mar 04 06:34:59 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i think the first people are going to show up in person with cash
Mar 04 06:35:00 <jurov>	maybe i'll go too..only 200km away
Mar 04 06:35:05 <jurov>	but it's fishy
Mar 04 06:35:20 <Bowjob>	prime asic.. i did not see that coming
Mar 04 06:35:23 <Chaang-Noi>	if i was 200km away i would have left 5 hours ago :)
Mar 04 06:35:25 <Bowjob>	they just showed up.
Mar 04 06:35:35 <Bowjob>	chaang, are you planning on visiting hungary?
Mar 04 06:35:40 <Chaang-Noi>	no
Mar 04 06:35:45 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 04 06:36:11 <Bowjob>	idk if it would be good to buy it and rent a place.. and mine there for like 2 weeks
Mar 04 06:36:15 <Bowjob>	then go home
Mar 04 06:36:32 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 04 06:36:36 <Bowjob>	Congrats gentlemen
Mar 04 06:36:39 <Bowjob>	$35.00
Mar 04 06:36:40 <Bowjob>	:)
Mar 04 06:37:09 <Chaang-Noi>	Mar04 11:36:13 mtgox     x14    69.2189 @    34.99569381 USD not yet
Mar 04 06:37:39 <Bowjob>	chang
Mar 04 06:37:51 <Chaang-Noi>	would be cool to go to hungrey to get one... but i dont think i will
Mar 04 06:37:51 <Bowjob>	34.995 is 35.00
Mar 04 06:38:00 <Bowjob>	learn significant figures!
Mar 04 06:38:16 <Chaang-Noi>	...
Mar 04 06:38:32 <Bowjob>	so we did break 35
Mar 04 06:38:47 <jurov>	;;ticker
Mar 04 06:38:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.98900, Best ask: 35.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01100, Last trade: 34.98900, 24 hour volume: 24097.16084728, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 35.00000, 24 hour vwap: 34.52767
Mar 04 06:39:05 <jurov>	yup
Mar 04 06:40:33 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 04 06:40:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.98902, Best ask: 34.99990, Bid-ask spread: 0.01088, Last trade: 34.99990, 24 hour volume: 24148.58918032, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 35.00000, 24 hour vwap: 34.52876
Mar 04 06:41:05 <Bowjob>	someone buy my dice shares, its just 900 shares lol
Mar 04 06:42:14 <jurov>	sry i alread bought 3 days ago.. and for higher price :/
Mar 04 06:42:29 <Bowjob>	mines cheaper
Mar 04 06:42:31 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 04 06:43:21 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135760.0
Mar 04 06:43:31 <Bowjob>	I've already thought about this way back..
Mar 04 06:43:39 <jurov>	not interested... it may as well even more misbehave and crash further
Mar 04 06:44:10 <Bowjob>	my investments were actually conflicting.. I can't win both ways if I invest in S.Dice and bitcoin for long term
Mar 04 06:44:12 <Bowjob>	one has to go
Mar 04 06:44:27 <Bowjob>	I want BTC up, but for BTC to go up, dice has to go down
Mar 04 06:44:41 <Bowjob>	I want Dice to go down, but if I want dice volume to go down, BTC has to go down
Mar 04 06:45:12 <Bowjob>	*I want dice to go up, but if I want dice volume to go up, BTC has to go down
Mar 04 06:45:22 <Bowjob>	fuck the middle sentence it doesjnt make sense
Mar 04 06:45:22 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 04 06:45:29 <jurov>	unless evoor announces some expansion plans
Mar 04 06:45:47 <jurov>	like, russian roulette lol
Mar 04 06:45:54 <Bowjob>	having said that, ian is shorting dice lol
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Mar 04 06:55:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6075 = 3.0375 BTC [-]
Mar 04 06:55:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.6031 = 3.6186 BTC [-]
Mar 04 06:56:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.595 = 2.38 BTC [-]
Mar 04 06:56:20 <Bowjob>	omg
Mar 04 06:56:21 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 04 06:56:23 <Bowjob>	Dice
Mar 04 06:56:25 <Bowjob>	!!
Mar 04 06:56:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0059 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 07:02:53 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 04 07:02:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.99903, Best ask: 35.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00097, Last trade: 35.00000, 24 hour volume: 24572.60076911, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 35.00000, 24 hour vwap: 34.53776
Mar 04 07:03:16 <Bowjob>	cheap coins for everyone
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Mar 04 07:03:33 <Bowjob>	whats $35 vs $1000s of dollars in a few years?
Mar 04 07:04:30 <Anduck>	you bought at >30usd?
Mar 04 07:05:07 <Bowjob>	no, i bought at 13.29 lol
Mar 04 07:05:17 <Bowjob>	and at 26.xx to cover my asic purchase
Mar 04 07:05:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.57 = 1.14 BTC [-]
Mar 04 07:05:52 <Bowjob>	it woulda been nicer if i got in at 2 dollars. id be rolling on dough right now
Mar 04 07:06:43 <Anduck>	asic purchase?
Mar 04 07:06:49 <Anduck>	avalon batch 2?
Mar 04 07:07:06 <Bowjob>	yes
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Mar 04 07:07:24 <Bowjob>	im still wondering if i made the right choice, will i even profit from it?
Mar 04 07:07:47 <Bowjob>	i was betting on BFL not getting their shit together.. seems like they are getting their shit together
Mar 04 07:08:11 <Bowjob>	or would i have been golden just holding dice instead
Mar 04 07:08:18 <BitHub>	asicminer shares
Mar 04 07:08:34 <pigeons>	you talk a lot :)
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Mar 04 07:24:10 <usagi>	Hmm
Mar 04 07:24:18 <usagi>	Maybe you should rate him -1 for talking too much :p
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Mar 04 07:25:38 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Mar 04 07:25:50 <usagi>	hi diablo, i have something you may have missed
Mar 04 07:26:01 <usagi>	scarred and wild -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzpDJRPwTMs
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Mar 04 07:26:26 <the_silent_wande>	hey guys, who wants to make more bitcoins? http://bitbet.us/bet/267/btc-usd-at-mt-gox-will-hit-35-in-march/
Mar 04 07:26:40 <kakobrekla>	late bets get refunded.
Mar 04 07:26:41 <the_silent_wande>	bet yes = profit
Mar 04 07:26:47 <usagi>	it already hit 35
Mar 04 07:27:07 <Diablo-D3>	you know, I still haven't seen bubblegum crisis
Mar 04 07:27:29 <the_silent_wande>	anyone know what time zone BitBet is in?
Mar 04 07:27:34 <usagi>	It's good.
Mar 04 07:27:51 <usagi>	It's on the trackers now, search for thora
Mar 04 07:27:55 <usagi>	good quality
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Mar 04 07:28:36 <usagi>	I love it for how it dealt with real life issues like corporate greed and corruption
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Mar 04 07:29:21 <Diablo-D3>	fucking thora
Mar 04 07:29:30 <Diablo-D3>	HEY LETS RIP A BLURAY AND PRODUCE A 10GB RIP
Mar 04 07:29:50 <usagi>	these are from laserdisc and the quality is good.
Mar 04 07:30:26 <kakobrekla>	heavy weights came out
Mar 04 07:30:27 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 04 07:31:10 <usagi>	Lol, that guy wants his 500 BTC back right
Mar 04 07:31:41 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 04 07:31:49 <Bowjob>	I was not part of the bet but.. :D
Mar 04 07:34:15 <usagi>	I'm not sure if I make more money as a shareholder or betting
Mar 04 07:34:44 <kakobrekla>	hm i think im gonna drive to budapest over night.
Mar 04 07:34:50 <Bowjob>	im trying to get out of satoshi dice right now
Mar 04 07:34:54 <Bowjob>	help. :/
Mar 04 07:35:09 <usagi>	You know how I got out of satoshidice
Mar 04 07:35:13 <Bowjob>	how
Mar 04 07:35:21 <usagi>	I said screw it and spent 20 BTC and said I would never ever play satoshidice again
Mar 04 07:35:26 <kakobrekla>	Bowjob put all your coins in on a bitbet that resolves in 2014
Mar 04 07:35:48 <Bowjob>	oh yeah
Mar 04 07:35:56 <usagi>	Luckily I won
Mar 04 07:36:17 <Bowjob>	i lost quite a bit on dice actuallyy
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Mar 04 07:36:56 <Bowjob>	bought in at 0.7xx
Mar 04 07:37:00 <Bowjob>	then erik dumped
Mar 04 07:37:14 <Bowjob>	then whale quit
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Mar 04 07:37:24 <Bowjob>	then btc went up
Mar 04 07:37:25 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 04 07:37:27 <usagi>	!!ticker s.dice
Mar 04 07:37:42 <usagi>	Whats the price now
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Mar 04 07:38:33 <Bowjob>	seems to recovered a bit
Mar 04 07:38:36 <Bowjob>	it was 0.51 earlier
Mar 04 07:38:37 <Bowjob>	i think
Mar 04 07:38:39 <Bowjob>	0.59
Mar 04 07:38:58 <usagi>	Could be a massive buying opportunity.
Mar 04 07:39:22 <Bowjob>	ifeel bearish on dice gah
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Mar 04 07:39:30 <Bowjob>	doesnt help ian is shorting it
Mar 04 07:39:38 <Bowjob>	perhaps he caused the slump too?
Mar 04 07:40:07 <usagi>	I bet.. you will be able to /really/ short it soon
Mar 04 07:41:32 <Bowjob>	i avoided a massive headache earlier
Mar 04 07:41:39 <Bowjob>	my wallet.dat got corrupted or something
Mar 04 07:41:54 <Bowjob>	thank satoshi for the seed words
Mar 04 07:42:06 <Anduck>	Bowjob: erik was the.. whale!!
Mar 04 07:42:17 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 04 07:42:40 <usagi>	It's possible, but unlikely
Mar 04 07:42:46 <Bowjob>	idk if some whale would play dice still.. i mean
Mar 04 07:42:56 <Bowjob>	they got rich by not doing stupid things, right?
Mar 04 07:43:02 <Bowjob>	unless its a trust fund baby
Mar 04 07:43:54 <Bowjob>	maybe our little whale figured out he'd make a lot more money by holding bitcoins instead
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Mar 04 07:46:18 <Bowjob>	itd be more fun if wallstreet plays with bitcoins
Mar 04 07:56:43 <Bicknellski>	There are some from wallstreet that do.
Mar 04 07:56:49 <usagi>	If wall street played with bitcoins there'd be a flat 1 bitcoin trading fee.
Mar 04 07:56:57 <usagi>	for each buy and sell order
Mar 04 07:57:04 <usagi>	Discount brokers would charge you .25
Mar 04 07:57:14 <Bicknellski>	... that is coming
Mar 04 07:57:14 <Chaang-Noi>	gone with the wind is a 4 hour movie?
Mar 04 07:57:18 <Bicknellski>	right?
Mar 04 07:57:41 <usagi>	Wall street will come if there's money in it
Mar 04 07:57:48 <usagi>	By money we are talking a billion
Mar 04 07:57:55 <usagi>	maybe three billion
Mar 04 07:57:58 <Bicknellski>	size is tiny
Mar 04 07:58:02 <Bowjob>	much more than that
Mar 04 07:58:15 <usagi>	Bitcoins would need to be $150
Mar 04 07:58:20 <Bowjob>	yeah, actually.. I gotta thank wall street for charging such prics
Mar 04 07:58:31 <Bowjob>	because.. I was this close to blowing 7 grand on appl shares
Mar 04 07:58:35 <usagi>	Oh and also
Mar 04 07:58:36 <Bowjob>	when they where 700 each
Mar 04 07:58:45 <Bowjob>	... id get charged like $40 bucks
Mar 04 07:58:48 <Bowjob>	which was a turn off
Mar 04 07:58:51 <Bowjob>	so im like.. nnope
Mar 04 07:58:52 <usagi>	You won't hold the bitcoins, they will. They'll just tell you how many bitcoins you "own".
Mar 04 07:59:11 <Bowjob>	isnt that what coinlab is doing
Mar 04 07:59:23 <Bowjob>	.. put the coins in their storage
Mar 04 07:59:36 <Bicknellski>	ya
Mar 04 07:59:40 <Bicknellski>	scammers
Mar 04 07:59:41 <Bowjob>	im thinking.. whats the point. it will come under US scrutiny
Mar 04 07:59:53 <Bowjob>	and we can protect it ourselves.. and anonymous
Mar 04 07:59:56 <Bicknellski>	best to steer clear of em
Mar 04 08:00:05 <Bowjob>	and theyd be charging to hold bitcoins?
Mar 04 08:00:06 <Bowjob>	WTf
Mar 04 08:00:12 <Bowjob>	i dont see any + to it
Mar 04 08:00:40 <Bowjob>	so yeah, the trade fee turned me off so much
Mar 04 08:00:50 <Bowjob>	that i didnt invest in appl... lol
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Mar 04 08:20:56 <Chaang-Noi>	7 blocks 22 mins
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Mar 04 08:32:47 <ThickAsThieves>	&estimate
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Mar 04 08:32:57 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4773936.44517 based on data since last change | 4780679.07307 based on data for last three days
Mar 04 08:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00076643 = 5.0968 BTC [-]
Mar 04 08:33:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00076145 = 0.2665 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 08:34:12 <Bicknellski>	I am hoping my fpga's get here this week
Mar 04 08:34:26 <Bicknellski>	want to pay em back if I can....
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Mar 04 08:34:44 <Bicknellski>	... before I switch them to altcoins
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Mar 04 08:40:14 <blu3gr1ffon>	http://bitbet.us/bet/267/btc-usd-at-mt-gox-will-hit-35-in-march/
Mar 04 08:40:19 <blu3gr1ffon>	does this mean weighted average?
Mar 04 08:41:51 <Chaang-Noi>	;;stats
Mar 04 08:41:51 <gribble>	I have 16 registered users with 21 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
Mar 04 08:41:59 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 04 08:42:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.10001, Best ask: 35.11000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 35.11000, 24 hour volume: 27346.56729371, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 35.11000, 24 hour vwap: 34.61383
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Mar 04 08:46:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 200 @ 0.00675 = 1.35 BTC [-]
Mar 04 08:46:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 311 @ 0.0065 = 2.0215 BTC [-]
Mar 04 09:00:09 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 35.99
Mar 04 09:00:15 <gribble>	There are currently 5060.2254 bitcoins offered at or under 35.99 USD, worth 180633.379121 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
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Mar 04 09:35:09 <ThickAsThieves>	gasp!
Mar 04 09:36:09 <kakobrekla>	blu3gr1ffon no
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Mar 04 09:41:02 <Anduck>	;;seen smickls
Mar 04 09:41:03 <gribble>	I have not seen smickls.
Mar 04 09:41:04 <Anduck>	;;seen smickles
Mar 04 09:41:04 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 2 days, 12 hours, 30 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Mar 04 09:41:39 <kakobrekla>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19mdl7/you_can_now_buy_anything_from_any_website_using/
Mar 04 09:42:09 <Anduck>	WHERE IS S.DICE DIVS!!??
Mar 04 09:42:30 <kakobrekla>	he has like 7 days to do it or smth
Mar 04 09:42:36 <kakobrekla>	so like 3 more days tops
Mar 04 09:42:38 <kakobrekla>	whats the rush
Mar 04 09:42:44 <kakobrekla>	you buyin your bread with that?
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Mar 04 09:45:19 <ThickAsThieves>	evoorhees just signed in and out
Mar 04 09:45:27 <ThickAsThieves>	odds are he'll do it today
Mar 04 09:46:05 <Anduck>	so
Mar 04 09:46:07 <Anduck>	where's smickles?
Mar 04 09:46:28 <Anduck>	kakobrekla: no, just drama
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Mar 04 09:49:23 <ThickAsThieves>	welcome back
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Mar 04 09:51:06 <blu3gr1ffon>	kakobrekla: thanks!  it's closed now.  yay.
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Mar 04 10:11:43 <jurov>	did some googling around that EDI-Max company that's doing asics
Mar 04 10:11:48 <jurov>	supposedly
Mar 04 10:11:59 <jurov>	found only some registration data
Mar 04 10:12:05 <jurov>	like http://firemny-register.sk/firma/44217854-VP--MAX-2000-sro/
Mar 04 10:12:23 <jurov>	they own some slovak company that's again unknown to google
Mar 04 10:12:36 <Zedster>	EDI-max thats a new one to me thats like 4 or 5 today
Mar 04 10:14:00 <jurov>	and they have registered both primeasic.com and btcasic.com eith the same contents
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Mar 04 10:27:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00597988 = 0.598 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 10:38:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 117 @ 0.00560001 = 0.6552 BTC [-]
Mar 04 10:39:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Mar 04 10:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500002 = 0.5 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 10:43:53 <Bugpowder>	Sorry for the delay this month. I'm currently travelling with spotty internet access. I moved some funds into MPEX today and will be sending the dividend out within 24 hrs.  Total dividend on mpex will be about 1721 BTC  Thanks for your patience.
Mar 04 10:44:45 <ThickAsThieves>	interesting
Mar 04 10:44:56 <ThickAsThieves>	wonder why his amount is so far from doog's
Mar 04 10:47:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00597989 = 0.299 BTC [+]
Mar 04 10:48:29 <Anduck>	Bugpowder: s.dice?
Mar 04 10:48:48 <Anduck>	orwut
Mar 04 10:51:10 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 04 10:51:20 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1581606#msg1581606
Mar 04 10:52:02 <Anduck>	lol
Mar 04 10:52:07 <Anduck>	fail wit tag
Mar 04 10:53:33 <jurov>	div is really only paid to 10% of shares, so it should be 10% of total profit
Mar 04 10:53:57 <jurov>	maybe it will be a bit more this month since erik sold some this month
Mar 04 10:55:31 <Bugpowder>	13%
Mar 04 10:55:33 <Bugpowder>	of shares
Mar 04 10:56:06 <Bugpowder>	anyone ordered from Roger's BitcoinStore.com?
Mar 04 10:56:29 <ThickAsThieves>	oh yeah i forgot it was 13% now
Mar 04 10:56:31 <ThickAsThieves>	good call
Mar 04 10:57:50 <topace>	Net Profit    13242.81849617
Mar 04 10:57:50 <topace>	13% MPEX Dividend    1721.5664045021
Mar 04 10:59:04 <ThickAsThieves>	So 0.00013243 per share
Mar 04 10:59:10 <Bugpowder>	yup
Mar 04 10:59:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5896 @ 0.0007782 = 4.5883 BTC [+]
Mar 04 11:00:08 <Anduck>	Bugpowder: bitcoinstore seems to be working, yes
Mar 04 11:00:15 <Anduck>	i know people who ordered from there and it works
Mar 04 11:00:17 <Anduck>	they got their items
Mar 04 11:00:24 <Bugpowder>	I'm gonna get some earphones
Mar 04 11:00:37 <Bugpowder>	it all sounds so cheap when priced in BTC
Mar 04 11:00:43 <Anduck>	=)
Mar 04 11:00:50 <Anduck>	for real it seems to be cheaper
Mar 04 11:00:57 <Anduck>	a lot items
Mar 04 11:01:05 <Anduck>	maybe its because of btc
Mar 04 11:01:18 <Bugpowder>	use some of the S.DICE div
Mar 04 11:02:20 <topace>	havelock's website now lets you push shares from mpex->havelock, simply paste in your mpex push receipt and it'll process it and credit your account
Mar 04 11:02:28 <pigeons>	nice
Mar 04 11:02:57 <topace>	(for all you people that want to do the arbitrage for me )
Mar 04 11:03:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00597989 = 5.6809 BTC [+]
Mar 04 11:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00598 = 0.299 BTC [+]
Mar 04 11:04:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 11:13:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00573 = 0.573 BTC [-]
Mar 04 11:14:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00561 = 0.561 BTC [-]
Mar 04 11:15:11 <iz>	;;ticker
Mar 04 11:15:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.20000, Best ask: 35.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 35.30000, 24 hour volume: 28845.84682379, 24 hour low: 33.98600, 24 hour high: 35.35000, 24 hour vwap: 34.73691
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Mar 04 11:22:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 290 @ 0.00561 = 1.6269 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 11:39:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 319 @ 0.00561 = 1.7896 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 11:51:27 <Namworld>	Who wants some S.DICE before the dividend arrives?
Mar 04 11:51:39 <Namworld>	(PT)
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Mar 04 12:10:37 <ThickAsThieves>	&estimate
Mar 04 12:10:37 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4859710.18648 based on data since last change | 4903754.75592 based on data for last three days
Mar 04 12:10:46 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;ticker
Mar 04 12:10:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.00000, Best ask: 36.00714, Bid-ask spread: 0.00714, Last trade: 36.00000, 24 hour volume: 34856.36975002, 24 hour low: 33.99871, 24 hour high: 36.15000, 24 hour vwap: 34.95547
Mar 04 12:12:28 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
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Mar 04 12:15:17 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;goxlag
Mar 04 12:15:22 <gribble>	106.133771 seconds
Mar 04 12:15:37 <kakobrekla>	washappening
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Mar 04 12:20:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.595 = 1.785 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 12:25:02 <Namworld>	price going up again and again
Mar 04 12:25:14 <Namworld>	is what is happening
Mar 04 12:25:26 <Namworld>	No one wants S.DICE-PT?
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Mar 04 12:28:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.595 = 2.975 BTC [-]
Mar 04 12:33:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.595 = 7.14 BTC [-]
Mar 04 12:34:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 555 @ 0.00594999 = 3.3022 BTC [-]
Mar 04 12:34:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 445 @ 0.00595 = 2.6478 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 12:44:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.034 = 0.068 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 12:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6771 @ 0.00076784 = 5.199 BTC [-]
Mar 04 12:48:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00077999 = 1.3876 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 13:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.595 = 3.57 BTC [-]
Mar 04 13:05:27 <maximian>	Anyone know where Erik has been travelling?
Mar 04 13:08:45 <Namworld>	I think he went to the Earth's core or something. Unfortunately there's no vehicle capable of reaching there and he started his journey by jumping in a volcano.
Mar 04 13:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol what ?!
Mar 04 13:11:27 <Namworld>	Spouting random made up stuff.
Mar 04 13:11:32 <TomServo>	Isn't that the beginning of the Scientology story?
Mar 04 13:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	yeah lol
Mar 04 13:11:41 <maximian>	Maybe he's working on selling S.DICE to the crab people
Mar 04 13:11:53 <Namworld>	What? Is it?
Mar 04 13:12:11 <Namworld>	I thought spouting random stuff was Bitcoin's national sport.
Mar 04 13:12:22 <Namworld>	But apparently what I'm saying was not random at all.
Mar 04 13:12:43 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 04 13:12:43 <ZedsterX>	depends on who ya ask
Mar 04 13:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	"everything new in this world is the history you didn't know"
Mar 04 13:13:26 <maximian>	So, someone moved 10,000 BTC back into MPEx:
Mar 04 13:13:28 <maximian>	http://blockchain.info/tx/34ee8eb5d04ec6a278223b0ea02a36c9104710e6cdd02a5d5ece9b03533d6b5e
Mar 04 13:14:03 <ZedsterX>	yeah that was me
Mar 04 13:14:46 <maximian>	Buy everything!
Mar 04 13:14:54 <Bugpowder>	too bad its erik
Mar 04 13:14:56 <maximian>	I'm thinking it's evoorhees
Mar 04 13:15:09 <ZedsterX>	be my guess
Mar 04 13:15:10 <Namworld>	I'm thinking S.DICE dividend
Mar 04 13:15:17 <Namworld>	Go S.DICE!
Mar 04 13:15:37 <Bugpowder>	its funny that he moved it all in instead of just 1750 though
Mar 04 13:15:40 <maximian>	But why 10k?
Mar 04 13:16:03 <Namworld>	hmm... nvm
Mar 04 13:16:13 <Bugpowder>	it is definitely him
Mar 04 13:16:30 <Namworld>	How do you know?
Mar 04 13:16:34 <Namworld>	Not sure why 10k
Mar 04 13:16:46 <Bugpowder>	because that address is from when he withdrew 10k last time
Mar 04 13:16:54 <Bugpowder>	and he said on the forum that he just deposited
Mar 04 13:16:54 <Namworld>	ah
Mar 04 13:17:02 <Namworld>	great
Mar 04 13:17:20 <Bugpowder>	Dunno why the whole 10k though
Mar 04 13:17:43 <Bugpowder>	prop up the S.DICE value post div ;-)
Mar 04 13:17:45 <maximian>	maybe he just didn't think about it, was in a hurry
Mar 04 13:18:17 <topace>	i dunno, if i was moving $350000 wort of coins, i think i'd stop to "think about it"
Mar 04 13:18:17 <Bugpowder>	on a mobile phone
Mar 04 13:18:40 <Bugpowder>	correction $363,800
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Mar 04 13:19:16 <midnightmagic>	Namworld: scientoglogist prophet!
Mar 04 13:21:08 <Bugpowder>	correction 365,000
Mar 04 13:23:02 <mircea_popescu>	<maximian> But why 10k? he has to pay 50mn shares
Mar 04 13:23:42 <Bugpowder>	Only 13mn shares on the market.
Mar 04 13:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1868 @ 0.00077999 = 1.457 BTC [+]
Mar 04 13:23:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9982 @ 0.00078 = 7.786 BTC [+]
Mar 04 13:24:06 <Bugpowder>	but maybe I don't understand the backend
Mar 04 13:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	13mn in third party hands on the market + 37 mn in erik's hands on the market = 50mn
Mar 04 13:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	+50mn which make up the golden ticket = 100mn, whole float.
Mar 04 13:26:10 <Namworld>	price is going... up
Mar 04 13:26:14 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Mar 04 13:26:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.31083, Best ask: 36.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12917, Last trade: 36.33499, 24 hour volume: 41528.95196789, 24 hour low: 33.99871, 24 hour high: 36.50000, 24 hour vwap: 35.17091
Mar 04 13:26:37 <maximian>	So he still has to pay divs to the 37mn shares that aren't on the market?
Mar 04 13:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	how aren't they on the market ?
Mar 04 13:26:56 <Bugpowder>	I new I should have waited a few more hours before buying something on bitcoinstore.com
Mar 04 13:27:02 <maximian>	I should say, that he hasn't sold yet
Mar 04 13:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 04 13:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	maximian well yes, shares get dividends.
Mar 04 13:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	makes no diff who owns them
Mar 04 13:28:22 <Bugpowder>	the confusion may come in the Dividends box
Mar 04 13:28:24 <Bugpowder>	info
Mar 04 13:28:32 <maximian>	So shouldn't last month's divs have been 10,000 BTC instead of 2,000?
Mar 04 13:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	maximian but last month there literally were only 10mn on the market.
Mar 04 13:28:55 <Bugpowder>	Hashrate over 40TH/s
Mar 04 13:29:01 <maximian>	ah, ok
Mar 04 13:29:40 <maximian>	as per contract
Mar 04 13:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	maximian this is designed to reinforce proof.
Mar 04 13:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	mpex won't let someone pay fewer shares than actually are issued
Mar 04 13:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	so every time a dividend is pay you actually know the actual exact total, from the receipt.
Mar 04 13:30:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00078 = 4.68 BTC [+]
Mar 04 13:31:47 <maximian>	good to know. I had forgotten that the contracted allowed for evoorhees to put another 40mn shares on the market last month.
Mar 04 13:32:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00594999 = 5.95 BTC [-]
Mar 04 13:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	it also works to reinforce proof the other way
Mar 04 13:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	someone declares X dividends, he'd better be able to show the cash too
Mar 04 13:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 355 @ 0.00595 = 2.1123 BTC [+]
Mar 04 13:34:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00597999 = 11.96 BTC [+]
Mar 04 13:34:52 <ThickAsThieves>	&estimate
Mar 04 13:35:12 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4825329.9214 based on data since last change | 4946742.16185 based on data for last three days
Mar 04 13:36:02 <Bugpowder>	36.53
Mar 04 13:36:13 <Bugpowder>	AAPL @ 2 year low
Mar 04 13:36:22 <Bugpowder>	GOOG at all time hi
Mar 04 13:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident burnside
Mar 04 13:36:31 <gribble>	Nick 'burnside', with hostmask 'burnside!~burnside@12.9.242.2', is not identified.
Mar 04 13:37:04 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder im curious how Ts will go.
Mar 04 13:38:04 <jurov>	;bc,convert eur
Mar 04 13:38:12 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 04 13:38:13 <gribble>	1 BTC = 36.70000 U.S. dollars = 28.2568525 Euros
Mar 04 13:39:01 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 04 13:39:04 <Bugpowder>	me too
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Mar 04 13:41:00 <ZedsterX>	;;bc,xau
Mar 04 13:41:01 <gribble>	1 XAU = 1573.500000000000 USD = 43.0861572542 BTC
Mar 04 13:41:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.3333 = 0.9999 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 13:41:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 30 @ 0.33317 = 9.9951 BTC [-]
Mar 04 13:42:35 <Bugpowder>	Got a good one for bitbet
Mar 04 13:42:59 <Bugpowder>	The price of a 25BTC Casascius coin > 1 Kruggerand.
Mar 04 13:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	haha put it in
Mar 04 13:43:28 <Bugpowder>	I should take a side by side pic and post to reddit as well.
Mar 04 13:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 04 13:43:57 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 36.70*25
Mar 04 13:43:57 <gribble>	917.5
Mar 04 13:44:49 <Bugpowder>	Hmm
Mar 04 13:44:55 <Bugpowder>	Whats a good time frame
Mar 04 13:45:00 <Bugpowder>	April 1?
Mar 04 13:45:04 <Bugpowder>	nah
Mar 04 13:45:15 <Bugpowder>	April 15?
Mar 04 13:45:41 <ZedsterX>	need at least a month
Mar 04 13:45:57 <Bugpowder>	lets just extrapolate linearly
Mar 04 13:46:02 <Bugpowder>	and use that as the date
Mar 04 13:46:33 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 43/25
Mar 04 13:46:33 <gribble>	1.72
Mar 04 13:47:13 <Bugpowder>	34% growth last month
Mar 04 13:47:18 <Bugpowder>	lets do 2 months
Mar 04 13:48:35 <ZedsterX>	hate when ppl use math :)
Mar 04 13:50:29 <mircea_popescu>	1st of may, worker's day
Mar 04 13:53:13 <Bugpowder>	yah
Mar 04 13:54:46 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Don't tell me MPEx is closed for 1st of May. :)
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Mar 04 13:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 04 13:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	mpex hasn't actually been closed yet
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Mar 04 13:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	much unlike everyone else.
Mar 04 13:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	there was a ~hour ddos a while back, but that's all.
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Mar 04 14:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.6 = 5.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 14:03:35 <blu3gr1ffon>	who runs betsofbitco.in?
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Mar 04 14:13:33 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident FabianB
Mar 04 14:13:34 <gribble>	Nick 'FabianB', with hostmask 'FabianB!~ogg@unaffiliated/fabianb', is identified as user fabianb, with GPG key id 797C1106D52E79DF, key fingerprint 9B854E5F36B927C9C365F208797C1106D52E79DF, and bitcoin address 18Wnjc1fcWDboZDHNsn48URtwGaqRjPnAt
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Mar 04 14:23:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.655 = 3.275 BTC
Mar 04 14:23:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.65 = 5.2 BTC [-]
Mar 04 14:23:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [-]
Mar 04 14:23:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.65 = 7.15 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 14:23:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [-]
Mar 04 14:23:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.65 = 10.4 BTC [-]
Mar 04 14:23:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.65 = 3.9 BTC [-]
Mar 04 14:23:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 04 14:23:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.65 = 32.5 BTC [-]
Mar 04 14:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol @O.BTCUSD.C370T
Mar 04 14:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	bot's out of options so the people are fighting!
Mar 04 14:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 04 14:29:10 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC)
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Mar 04 14:29:34 <jurov>	you're out of options? so early in month?
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Mar 04 14:32:26 <ZedsterX>	there goes all my shares cuz getting BTC in DK over the weekend sucks
Mar 04 14:32:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.34499 = 1.725 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 14:33:29 <jurov>	lmao "Budapest is known for a hub of scamming activity"
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Mar 04 14:33:52 <jurov>	that primeasic thread starts being juicy
Mar 04 14:35:02 <ZedsterX>	heheh i just read that too
Mar 04 14:35:14 <jurov>	well, if the hungarian govt is considered, that's fair assessment
Mar 04 14:35:22 <ZedsterX>	ouch
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Mar 04 14:37:22 <parseval>	Nice, the asicminer pass-through went active
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Mar 04 14:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	jurov a shitton sold on those lines
Mar 04 14:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	actually budapest is known as a hub for porn.
Mar 04 14:38:59 <jurov>	mircea, have you seen wikipedia's world penis length map?
Mar 04 14:39:31 <jurov>	hungary looks like a piece of africa there
Mar 04 14:41:46 <dub>	fuuu .65
Mar 04 14:42:03 <dub>	temptation to sell rising
Mar 04 14:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0055 = 0.0165 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 14:44:58 <Lyspooner>	i hope kim dotcom gets credit for inventing bitcoin
Mar 04 14:45:23 <Lyspooner>	he's a much more flamboyant leader than, say, gavin
Mar 04 14:45:36 <ZedsterX>	isn't budapest Rocco Siffredi's home?
Mar 04 14:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	how's he a leader ?
Mar 04 14:45:55 <dub>	he is the man
Mar 04 14:46:06 <ZedsterX>	amen
Mar 04 14:46:06 <Lyspooner>	he will portray himself that way and the media will follow along
Mar 04 14:46:21 <mircea_popescu>	so like obama.
Mar 04 14:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	hey, i'm with you, i hope it happens
Mar 04 14:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	more drama -> more value for btc.
Mar 04 14:46:43 <dub>	kim is jesus
Mar 04 14:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	dub to quote some cartoon, he's jsut stupid and fat.
Mar 04 14:47:55 <dub>	idk about stupid, takes some ability to copy a business model and make buttloads off it
Mar 04 14:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	dub this crashes into your ideas about the chinese.
Mar 04 14:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	since they took ford's model and are currently raping the americans with it.
Mar 04 14:48:54 <dub>	I didn't say they were stupid
Mar 04 14:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	but you didn't say they're jesus either.
Mar 04 14:49:12 <dub>	that is true
Mar 04 14:49:23 *	mircea_popescu shows midnightmagic how it's done.
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Mar 04 14:51:09 <Lyspooner>	what is NAT.ROUTERS
Mar 04 14:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	kim's new project.
Mar 04 14:51:50 <dub>	I thought his new project was inventing crypto
Mar 04 14:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	broken js crypto, to be precise. he's done that.
Mar 04 14:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	now he invents ips
Mar 04 15:00:36 <dub>	Lyspooner: what does your question relate to?
Mar 04 15:01:06 <Lyspooner>	it's on the bottom of the mpex list of contracts
Mar 04 15:01:54 <dub>	right
Mar 04 15:04:31 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139337.0 deathbylolipop need to get in on this
Mar 04 15:07:53 <burnside>	;;ident burnside
Mar 04 15:07:54 <gribble>	Nick 'burnside', with hostmask 'burnside!~burnside@12.9.242.2', is identified as user burnside, with GPG key id 990D4DB54ECDA3C6, key fingerprint 2EEB40C9DF5E25E6BD3A7BF8990D4DB54ECDA3C6, and bitcoin address None
Mar 04 15:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	who pays 4 btc for that ?!
Mar 04 15:08:28 <Lyspooner>	caffeinewriter
Mar 04 15:08:30 <burnside>	<mircea_popescu> now what happens if six months down the road friedcat pulls a gigavps ?  -- I think we would have to do the AML paperwork.
Mar 04 15:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	burnside i'm just saying, you are underwriting a lot of risk that you can't control.
Mar 04 15:09:44 <burnside>	definitely.  thus the disclaimers in the contract.
Mar 04 15:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	thus also the liquidity disparity.
Mar 04 15:10:05 <burnside>	I'm more worried about their competition beating them out though than I am about friedcat running off.
Mar 04 15:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	it's not your fault, best i can see, just asicminer acting very weird.
Mar 04 15:10:33 <burnside>	Yeah, I can't figure out if it's the lack of sleep, or what.
Mar 04 15:10:34 <dub>	what is the weird acting?
Mar 04 15:10:58 <mircea_popescu>	dub baiscally they choked their investors by refusing to list to the point that people out of sheer desperations made private pts
Mar 04 15:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	now one of the most promising ipos of the year so far has been reduced to a 70 btc opening day.
Mar 04 15:11:17 <dub>	oh right
Mar 04 15:11:34 <Namworld>	god, why did I sold all these ASICMINER shares for 0.40 =/
Mar 04 15:11:47 <dub>	Namworld: want to buy some?
Mar 04 15:11:51 <dub>	0.7 :)
Mar 04 15:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 04 15:11:59 <Namworld>	no, not buying
Mar 04 15:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld the girl said .75 to 1.5
Mar 04 15:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	why don't you listen to the girl ? :D
Mar 04 15:12:28 <Namworld>	I sold some time ago? Before she even said anything I believe.
Mar 04 15:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	a well then there's your answer !
Mar 04 15:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	you sold earlier.
Mar 04 15:12:56 <burnside>	tbh tho, 0.4 is still 4x what you got 'em for, no?
Mar 04 15:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	i think he paid a little premium
Mar 04 15:13:09 <burnside>	not a bad return on ~6 months?
Mar 04 15:13:27 <ZedsterX>	i want to buy some but banks are too slow
Mar 04 15:13:57 <Namworld>	Also if Friedcat had shares trading again after GLBSE closed you would probably have been able to buy back my ASICMINER cheap to fill that short contract.
Mar 04 15:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld at any point between october and january they could have listed and been tip top shape
Mar 04 15:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	all through february and still acceptable
Mar 04 15:15:55 <dub>	mircea_popescu: so in reality your 'acting weird' could simply be explained by, inability to strategize
Mar 04 15:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	but march is already dropping the ball.
Mar 04 15:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	dub that is acting weird.
Mar 04 15:16:12 <dub>	to you maybe
Mar 04 15:16:19 <dub>	to me its just acting chinese
Mar 04 15:16:33 <burnside>	doh
Mar 04 15:16:35 <mircea_popescu>	i've not fucked enough chinese girls to have a clue so far.
Mar 04 15:16:46 <Namworld>	I should have bought these
Mar 04 15:16:57 <Namworld>	Instead of lending to Amazingrando.
Mar 04 15:16:57 <dub>	the failure here is your preconception of normal thiking
Mar 04 15:17:03 <dub>	thinking*
Mar 04 15:17:03 <Anduck>	Namworld: how much they're paying now?
Mar 04 15:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck they paid like 2% or something  like that.
Mar 04 15:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	2.5% mebbe
Mar 04 15:17:41 <Namworld>	ASICMINER already sent a first payment?
Mar 04 15:17:48 <dub>	yes
Mar 04 15:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, mpex db dump has been optimized to take up less space. nothing's broken, it's just naturally halfsized.
Mar 04 15:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld yes.
Mar 04 15:18:18 <mod6>	sweet!
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Mar 04 15:18:59 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: yeah they paid 0.025 btc/share
Mar 04 15:19:02 <Anduck>	or smth like that
Mar 04 15:19:03 <Namworld>	hmm... If you had bought back then 10k USD of bitcoins at 5 USD each for 2k BTC
Mar 04 15:19:07 <Anduck>	but i mean
Mar 04 15:19:12 <Anduck>	how much are they selling those shares for?
Mar 04 15:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck !ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 04 15:19:40 <Anduck>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 04 15:19:41 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC)
Mar 04 15:19:43 <Anduck>	couldnt do it urself???
Mar 04 15:19:44 <Namworld>	and bought 20k ASICMINER (10k USD). You'd now have 20k x 0.65 BTC = 13 000 BTC worth
Mar 04 15:20:01 <Anduck>	yup
Mar 04 15:20:03 <Anduck>	=)
Mar 04 15:20:09 <Namworld>	or close to half a million dollar at today's prices
Mar 04 15:20:10 <Anduck>	i was lucky
Mar 04 15:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld no. things don't scale like that. you'd have ~70 btc's worth of shares and 12930 btc worth of paper & dreams.
Mar 04 15:20:17 <Anduck>	i bought asicminer with all my glbse stack xD
Mar 04 15:20:48 <Namworld>	mircea: I'm only evaluating current trading price.
Mar 04 15:20:50 <Anduck>	but -really- they buy asicminer for 0.65?? =D
Mar 04 15:20:51 <Anduck>	I LIKE THAT
Mar 04 15:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	ya but you'r extrapolating a little out of band
Mar 04 15:21:23 <Namworld>	As long as ASICMINER keeps up like that.
Mar 04 15:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck i think if you push burnside your stocks you get the pt and can trade
Mar 04 15:21:33 <Namworld>	Probably achievable.
Mar 04 15:21:50 <Namworld>	You could sell part for your initial 2k BTC no problem tho.
Mar 04 15:21:54 <ThickAsThieves>	you can push to Deadterra on BF too, he's free, and takes 0% of divs
Mar 04 15:21:58 <Anduck>	nah i dont wanna trade, mp
Mar 04 15:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	no Namworld. if asicminer keeps up like it's currently doing it'll go to shit.
Mar 04 15:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	they have to seriously adjust themselves.
Mar 04 15:22:16 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer better get more hashing online soon
Mar 04 15:22:22 <Namworld>	eh
Mar 04 15:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	this is certainly an exciting spring
Mar 04 15:23:11 <Namworld>	on a sidenote
Mar 04 15:23:25 *	Namworld is borrowing BTC @ 0.03% daily, 166.89/500 BTC left to fill. https://btct.co/security/BTC-BOND
Mar 04 15:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.03 ** 30
Mar 04 15:23:51 <gribble>	0
Mar 04 15:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.03 ** 30.0
Mar 04 15:23:56 <gribble>	0
Mar 04 15:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck ?!
Mar 04 15:24:05 <mircea_popescu>	o
Mar 04 15:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.03 ** 30.0
Mar 04 15:24:08 <gribble>	2.42726247119
Mar 04 15:24:09 <dub>	scale owned
Mar 04 15:24:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.0003 ** 30.0
Mar 04 15:24:20 <gribble>	1.00903925984
Mar 04 15:24:28 <Anduck>	uhh
Mar 04 15:24:32 <mircea_popescu>	wait. what ? you're paying 1% a month ?~
Mar 04 15:24:42 <Namworld>	Yeah
Mar 04 15:24:50 <Namworld>	A bit less
Mar 04 15:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	and people are actually sending you btc ?!
Mar 04 15:24:54 <Namworld>	10.95% per year
Mar 04 15:25:00 <Namworld>	Yeah...
Mar 04 15:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
Mar 04 15:25:22 <dub>	this is btc
Mar 04 15:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	but this is a. less than dividends for most stocks b. much less than mpoe bonds etc.
Mar 04 15:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so lol
Mar 04 15:25:53 <Namworld>	But daily interest, callable at face value anytime.
Mar 04 15:26:10 <Namworld>	I guess the possibility to withdraw at face value anytime is interesting enough.
Mar 04 15:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	we totally have to shed these paycheck loan faces off btc already
Mar 04 15:27:48 <dub>	Namworld: you pay interest daily? as divs oslt
Mar 04 15:27:56 <blu3gr1ffon>	I used to work in title loans and payday lending.
Mar 04 15:28:07 <blu3gr1ffon>	got away with %300 on title loans.
Mar 04 15:28:13 <blu3gr1ffon>	customers loved us too.
Mar 04 15:28:34 <Namworld>	dub: yes
Mar 04 15:28:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1231 = 12.31 BTC [+]
Mar 04 15:29:37 <Namworld>	Comes to 300 satoshi per 0.01 BTC share daily.
Mar 04 15:30:12 <B0g4r7_>	Did you look at the cars?
Mar 04 15:30:25 <B0g4r7_>	I always wondered what would happen if I brought in the title to my wrecked car.
Mar 04 15:30:26 <Namworld>	It's not that bad actually.
Mar 04 15:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 50-50 you'd get a loan
Mar 04 15:31:51 <burnside>	wow ltc is back on the rise.  Network Hash Rate	1,018.123 GH/s
Mar 04 15:32:12 <B0g4r7_>	If I tried at a few different loan places the odds get pretty good.
Mar 04 15:32:18 <blu3gr1ffon>	B0g4r7_: we did, full checks.  does it run, does it go into reverse, is anything spewing.
Mar 04 15:32:19 <B0g4r7_>	heh
Mar 04 15:32:39 <blu3gr1ffon>	then we'd give them 1/4 - 1/2 NADA value.  they'd give us title
Mar 04 15:33:30 <blu3gr1ffon>	only way around lending laws.
Mar 04 15:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	did you have your lot and everything ?
Mar 04 15:34:49 <blu3gr1ffon>	we housed at our associates property.  tow lot.
Mar 04 15:35:15 <B0g4r7_>	title loans and tows.
Mar 04 15:35:26 <blu3gr1ffon>	good times.
Mar 04 15:35:39 <B0g4r7_>	Throw in a bail bondsman, a PI, and a debt collection agency and you've got a full house.
Mar 04 15:36:04 <blu3gr1ffon>	WE got into it from check cashing, so we were half-way there.
Mar 04 15:36:29 <blu3gr1ffon>	in house collections. nice to know a skilled skip tracer
Mar 04 15:36:41 <blu3gr1ffon>	course, internets makes their job easier these days
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Mar 04 15:53:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.005501 = 5.501 BTC [+]
Mar 04 15:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.005501 = 5.501 BTC [+]
Mar 04 15:55:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.005501 = 5.501 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 15:56:31 <Lyspooner>	in 2001 kim dotcom bought 375,000 EUR worth of shares in letsbuyit.com and subsequently announced is intention to invest 50 million euros in the company.
Mar 04 15:56:52 <Lyspooner>	the announcement caused the share value of letsbuyit.com to jump and dotcom cashed out, making a profit of 1.5 million eur
Mar 04 15:58:15 <dub>	an den?
Mar 04 15:58:37 <Lyspooner>	and then he was arrested
Mar 04 15:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 661 @ 0.005501 = 3.6362 BTC [+]
Mar 04 15:59:06 <Lyspooner>	this time he won't be arrested
Mar 04 15:59:38 <dub>	pretty sure he's gettign extradited from nz
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Mar 04 15:59:52 <pgp>	::ticker
Mar 04 16:00:04 <pgp>	;;ticker
Mar 04 16:00:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.27000, Best ask: 36.27099, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 36.27700, 24 hour volume: 44153.48588405, 24 hour low: 34.16966, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.37953
Mar 04 16:00:14 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner he's in jail already neh ?
Mar 04 16:00:25 <dub>	no
Mar 04 16:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	orly ?
Mar 04 16:01:20 <dub>	he's on some form of bail iirc
Mar 04 16:02:39 <dub>	judge gave him bail after a bunch of illegal shit about his arrest surfaced
Mar 04 16:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	o o i recall
Mar 04 16:04:01 <mircea_popescu>	illegal surveillance, nz being a puppet state, yeah
Mar 04 16:04:08 <dub>	yeah
Mar 04 16:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	the usual "we confiscate all your money now you go ahead hire lawyers"
Mar 04 16:04:29 <mircea_popescu>	and all that jazz.
Mar 04 16:05:56 <dub>	and the lulzy.. spook dept. that isnt allowed to spy on nz citizens, didn't know he was a citizen
Mar 04 16:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 04 16:06:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.27100, Best ask: 36.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02900, Last trade: 36.30000, 24 hour volume: 44219.25916777, 24 hour low: 34.16966, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.38096
Mar 04 16:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	dude the oix is coming true omfg.
Mar 04 16:06:36 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 04 16:06:37 <gribble>	1 BTC = 36.30000 U.S. dollars = 27.9488759 Euros
Mar 04 16:06:48 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you seeing this shit ?
Mar 04 16:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Mar 04 16:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00525106 = 2.6255 BTC [-]
Mar 04 16:07:48 <kakobrekla>	fuck this
Mar 04 16:08:00 <kakobrekla>	avearage iq on the forum is -20
Mar 04 16:08:05 <Bugpowder>	seiing what?
Mar 04 16:08:08 <dub>	nowai?
Mar 04 16:08:10 <Bugpowder>	Kim?
Mar 04 16:08:21 <dub>	Kim is about to dump, suggset panic selling
Mar 04 16:08:28 <Bugpowder>	Lol
Mar 04 16:08:43 <Bugpowder>	nah  he is gonna pump this shit up.
Mar 04 16:09:01 <Bugpowder>	Now my wife's girlfriends are asking me how to buy coins.
Mar 04 16:09:08 <dub>	FUCK
Mar 04 16:09:14 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 04 16:09:18 <kakobrekla>	its a bubble when u get that.
Mar 04 16:09:21 <kakobrekla>	jk
Mar 04 16:09:23 <Bugpowder>	not yet
Mar 04 16:09:23 <dub>	yerp
Mar 04 16:09:29 <Bugpowder>	gotta be the shoeshiners
Mar 04 16:09:39 <Bugpowder>	when they tip you off.  Time to sell.
Mar 04 16:10:15 <error4733>	it's a trap
Mar 04 16:10:16 <pgp>	hi
Mar 04 16:10:39 <dub>	sup, you Kim Dotcom?
Mar 04 16:11:05 <Bugpowder>	dude
Mar 04 16:11:14 <Bugpowder>	you gotta get MEGA to IPO on MPEX
Mar 04 16:11:15 <dub>	he invented pgp yo
Mar 04 16:11:27 <pgp>	lol initials
Mar 04 16:11:39 *	pgp is now known as mjr___
Mar 04 16:11:45 <mjr___>	jurov: you around?
Mar 04 16:12:16 <mjr___>	by the way, good job on the OIX mircea
Mar 04 16:13:10 <jurov>	mjr___ what's up?
Mar 04 16:13:21 <mjr___>	just referred my friend
Mar 04 16:13:24 <mjr___>	:)
Mar 04 16:13:27 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Mar 04 16:13:47 <mjr___>	he signed up for coinbr, did the referral code and all that work out right?
Mar 04 16:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00077308 = 6.7258 BTC [-]
Mar 04 16:14:06 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea tbh
Mar 04 16:14:25 <jurov>	nice.
Mar 04 16:14:40 <jurov>	but he has to fund to be able to do anything ofc.
Mar 04 16:14:51 <mjr___>	yeah he sent 30
Mar 04 16:15:13 <jurov>	ah, that was him. yes, it's well.
Mar 04 16:15:24 <mjr___>	waiting on it to verify now, i think
Mar 04 16:15:33 <mjr___>	haven't checked blockchain info in a few min
Mar 04 16:15:55 <mjr___>	ok, got two so far :)
Mar 04 16:15:57 <jurov>	oh someone sent 30 yest.. so this is other one
Mar 04 16:16:07 <mjr___>	buy buy buy
Mar 04 16:16:15 <mjr___>	yes, just sent it
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Mar 04 16:17:11 <mjr___>	i'm actually on his comp right now, he prob goes by pgp
Mar 04 16:17:21 <mjr___>	but he hasn't talked much on this channel
Mar 04 16:18:38 <mjr___>	your the best jurov thanks a bunch
Mar 04 16:20:19 <jurov>	:) had to forward it, need to wait a bit
Mar 04 16:21:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0056 = 16.8 BTC [+]
Mar 04 16:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [+]
Mar 04 16:23:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.596 = 12.516 BTC [-]
Mar 04 16:23:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.595 = 2.975 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 16:26:15 <dub>	dice div come through?
Mar 04 16:26:26 <Bugpowder>	not yet
Mar 04 16:26:34 <Bugpowder>	deposit is in though
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Mar 04 16:26:37 <kakobrekla>	assbot will tell you when that happens
Mar 04 16:26:38 <mircea_popescu>	where's that pic of the cats
Mar 04 16:26:42 <mircea_popescu>	and yes, assbot now says
Mar 04 16:26:55 <kakobrekla>	he will fart out the dividend.
Mar 04 16:26:57 <kakobrekla>	it
Mar 04 16:27:01 <kakobrekla>	she for jurov
Mar 04 16:27:22 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, will you delist s.dice if erik won't make it in 3 hours?
Mar 04 16:27:30 <kakobrekla>	DOO IT
Mar 04 16:27:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Mar 04 16:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	well, actually, the 5th is tomorrow
Mar 04 16:27:44 *	mircea_popescu goes to read the contract
Mar 04 16:27:54 <jurov>	it says before 5th
Mar 04 16:28:21 <Bowjob>	OMG
Mar 04 16:28:24 <Bowjob>	Look at that bitbet
Mar 04 16:28:25 <Bowjob>	xD
Mar 04 16:28:28 <Bowjob>	200 BTC on NO
Mar 04 16:28:30 <Bowjob>	Woww
Mar 04 16:28:31 <Bowjob>	hahahaha
Mar 04 16:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	(e)The representatives of SatoshiDice solemnly promise and warrant that complete and accurate Statements of Profit and Loss for each calendar month will be published by them no later than by the fifth day of the new month.
Mar 04 16:28:59 <mircea_popescu>	(f)Immediately upon publication of each Statement of Profit and Loss SatoshiDice will pay to shareholders
Mar 04 16:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	well... e he did, f however no. let's see what he's up to
Mar 04 16:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob which one ?
Mar 04 16:30:24 <Bowjob>	the BFL one
Mar 04 16:30:43 <Bowjob>	I was leaning on "yes"  since apparently they are getting their shit together.. now im not sure again
Mar 04 16:31:05 <Bowjob>	Yifu apparently bet on the BFL march bet and won a fuckton
Mar 04 16:31:22 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 04 16:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	which was he, the 700 or the 600 ?
Mar 04 16:32:36 <Bowjob>	huh,.?
Mar 04 16:32:59 <Bowjob>	he's probably the one who put up 300++ BTC
Mar 04 16:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 04 16:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	le wow, 10:1 huh
Mar 04 16:33:40 <Bowjob>	mhm. I thought it was you
Mar 04 16:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it's josh
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Mar 04 16:37:41 <dub>	haha wtf
Mar 04 16:38:00 <dub>	trendon shavers showing up in my linkedin cloud
Mar 04 16:38:05 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Mar 04 16:38:29 <iz>	lol
Mar 04 16:38:38 <iz>	add him
Mar 04 16:38:39 <dub>	I have no bitcoiners on there so srsly wtfing
Mar 04 16:38:46 <iz>	and endorce him for pyramid marketing
Mar 04 16:38:59 <dub>	PH there too
Mar 04 16:39:14 <kakobrekla>	maybe its groping the scammurs
Mar 04 16:39:18 <dub>	I must have stalked them at some point
Mar 04 16:44:43 <iz>	dub: http://www.bash.org/?115
Mar 04 16:45:48 <guruvan>	what's up in here - been a minute since I've been in
Mar 04 16:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/284/primeasic-has-a-miner/
Mar 04 16:45:51 <mircea_popescu>	there we go.
Mar 04 16:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	o hi guruvan
Mar 04 16:46:17 <guruvan>	ohai MP - how's things? good to see you
Mar 04 16:46:19 <dub>	iz: lol
Mar 04 16:47:05 <B0g4r7_>	Does bitbet work linke BoB where they close the statement to betting if it becomes moot?
Mar 04 16:47:15 <guruvan>	mircea_popescu:  bitbet looks pretty good - was checking it out today some
Mar 04 16:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's getting some traction
Mar 04 16:47:35 <B0g4r7_>	Like, suppose BFL ships March 10, will the bet still be open?
Mar 04 16:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	at least by the cooked graphs i have here.
Mar 04 16:48:00 <B0g4r7_>	I know they won't but if they did...
Mar 04 16:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7 nah, once it's clear a bet ended early they get closed
Mar 04 16:48:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's not INSTANTANEOUS mind you,
Mar 04 16:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	but nevertheless.
Mar 04 16:49:27 <B0g4r7_>	http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=447
Mar 04 16:49:29 <B0g4r7_>	"If no product has shipped by February 28th/2013, the product shall be considered vapourware and the statement shall be ruled as draw."
Mar 04 16:49:35 <B0g4r7_>	I just got refunded for that one.
Mar 04 16:49:36 <mircea_popescu>	umm
Mar 04 16:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	wait,d raw ?!
Mar 04 16:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	wtf bullshit bfl sponsored meni rosenfeld crap is this
Mar 04 16:50:06 <B0g4r7_>	ya rly
Mar 04 16:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	"we're making a bet except if we lose it's really get our money back"
Mar 04 16:50:46 <dub>	why does only faggy shit get through bash.org mods
Mar 04 16:50:47 <dub>	http://www.bash.org/?952948
Mar 04 16:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	no wonder josh was spewing all that bs about bitbet.
Mar 04 16:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	kinda hurts to have people that won't push scams huh.
Mar 04 16:51:12 <Bugpowder>	yeah I was going to drop major coin on that bfl bet, then I read the fine print.... DRAW?
Mar 04 16:51:24 <dub>	none of the comedy gold I've submitted over the years has made it
Mar 04 16:53:07 <B0g4r7_>	"This is gold, Jerry!  Pure gold!"
Mar 04 16:53:21 <kakobrekla>	bah bitbet is so red
Mar 04 16:53:25 <kakobrekla>	cmon guys be more positive
Mar 04 16:55:02 <Bowjob>	lol. Im confused now.. I want to be on blue.. but WTF
Mar 04 16:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 846 @ 0.005501 = 4.6538 BTC [-]
Mar 04 16:55:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/284/primeasic-has-a-miner/ somebody likes prime ?
Mar 04 16:55:43 <Bugpowder>	It's the 10% of advertised specs part that has me worried
Mar 04 16:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 12/0.07
Mar 04 16:55:52 <gribble>	171.428571429
Mar 04 16:55:56 <ThickAsThieves>	&estimate
Mar 04 16:55:57 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4900626.90236 based on data since last change | 4958374.43923 based on data for last three days
Mar 04 16:56:24 <B0g4r7_>	Maybe primeasic pirated Avalon's chip design.
Mar 04 16:56:32 <B0g4r7_>	It'd be about right for the power numbers.
Mar 04 16:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5951 = 2.3804 BTC [+]
Mar 04 16:57:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.595 = 2.975 BTC [-]
Mar 04 16:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	chinese guy's hungarian girlfriend ?
Mar 04 16:57:11 <jurov>	if avalon is really a fpga's hardcopy, baybe they just used same blob
Mar 04 16:57:12 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 04 16:57:31 <B0g4r7_>	hardcopy doesn't come in QFN.
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Mar 04 16:58:30 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be really retarded to make asics as fpga hardcopy wtf.
Mar 04 16:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	nobody can be that dumb
Mar 04 16:59:27 <Bowjob>	who knows about blockhain.info here
Mar 04 16:59:33 <Bowjob>	they are posting the wrong totals on my account
Mar 04 16:59:51 <Bowjob>	http://blockchain.info/address/152mAXabBVjB58bASMzZEJzPPU84gEgjZR
Mar 04 17:00:02 <Bowjob>	it should have 195 BTC on that address, not 169
Mar 04 17:00:13 <Bowjob>	my electrum says 195..
Mar 04 17:01:04 <Bowjob>	this transaction doesnt make sense, I only spent 56 BTC here
Mar 04 17:01:04 <Bowjob>	http://blockchain.info/tx/a1a8111cb8c26e8ae1a06dcf1895e0b0e52c084673a9df5cc703abff0a48336c
Mar 04 17:01:08 <Bowjob>	it says 82 total
Mar 04 17:01:08 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 04 17:01:26 <dub>	every other bash quote is from some homo efnet oper
Mar 04 17:01:59 <dub>	its a fucking circlejerk
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Mar 04 17:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	dub welcome to internets
Mar 04 17:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob prolly best harass piuk in forum
Mar 04 17:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	and also tell him to get on irc :D
Mar 04 17:04:15 <B0g4r7_>	Bowjob, the rest got sent to a "balance address".
Mar 04 17:04:31 <Bowjob>	whats a balance address
Mar 04 17:04:40 <Bowjob>	fyi, I only used 1 address ^
Mar 04 17:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob that's how we make money.
Mar 04 17:05:07 <B0g4r7_>	I'm not entirely clear on it.  I think it happens when it needs to split funds or something.
Mar 04 17:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin financial elite steals from ordinary users by redirecting some random % of some txs
Mar 04 17:05:20 <B0g4r7_>	It gets sent to a newly-generated address that then gets placed i your wallet.
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Mar 04 17:05:27 <B0g4r7_>	in
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Mar 04 17:05:46 <B0g4r7_>	The ppl in #bitcoin-dev would know better.
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Mar 04 17:06:08 <Bowjob>	eh.. i dont understand lol
Mar 04 17:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob it's like this : you can only spend a WHOLE input.
Mar 04 17:06:26 <iz>	B0g4r7_: so you had 82.308 in a single bitcoin address, and you wanted to spend 56.82.. so 56.82 goes to where you want to spend it, and then 25.48 comes back in change to one of your new randomly generated wallet addresses
Mar 04 17:06:29 <mircea_popescu>	like, if you have 50 btc, the next time you spend ANY btc yougotta spend the whole 50
Mar 04 17:06:39 <B0g4r7_>	iz: pretty much.
Mar 04 17:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	the way this works in practice is that you send however much to who you owe
Mar 04 17:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	and the rest to another address of yours
Mar 04 17:07:10 <mircea_popescu>	and iz iz fasterz than mez ;/
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Mar 04 17:07:24 <Bowjob>	but.. one thing I don't get.. where is that 25 BTC sent?
Mar 04 17:07:29 <Bowjob>	I use electrum, only 5 addys
Mar 04 17:07:36 <Bowjob>	I checked the rest, I don't have them
Mar 04 17:07:39 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 04 17:07:41 <B0g4r7_>	It goes to a newly-generated address in your wallet.
Mar 04 17:07:50 <Bowjob>	but I can't see the address?
Mar 04 17:07:54 <B0g4r7_>	The addresses are hidden somehow (maybe?)
Mar 04 17:08:05 <B0g4r7_>	idk Electrum really.
Mar 04 17:08:21 <Bowjob>	yes, its hidden.. umm, but my total says 200 BTC
Mar 04 17:08:31 <Bowjob>	so it must be here, then its hidden? wtf
Mar 04 17:08:49 <B0g4r7_>	Maybe ask #electrum
Mar 04 17:08:55 <Bowjob>	mmk
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Mar 04 17:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00175 = 0.875 BTC [-]
Mar 04 17:20:05 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;ticker
Mar 04 17:20:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.01100, Best ask: 36.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28900, Last trade: 36.01100, 24 hour volume: 45723.66365557, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.42630
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Mar 04 17:26:57 <Bowjob>	yeap.
Mar 04 17:26:59 <Bowjob>	1G6evBnvqzZ3mDoxbjWivFLVzcG9JBhfXR
Mar 04 17:27:10 <Bowjob>	It's in this address.. I just don't see it on my client
Mar 04 17:31:54 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: so evoorhees will actually have to issue a dividend of 6619BTC to cover all 50,000,000 shares?
Mar 04 17:32:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 17:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	maximian im not sure of the exact figure. how much did sdice make in feb ?
Mar 04 17:34:38 <maximian>	13000+ BTC
Mar 04 17:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	then yes
Mar 04 17:35:34 <maximian>	evoorhees wrote that he'll be paying 1721BTC, which I assume he calculated based on 13M shares, which works out to 0.00013238 per share
Mar 04 17:35:37 <maximian>	OK
Mar 04 17:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	course most of it goes back to him i imagine, so it prolly works out to that
Mar 04 17:36:04 <maximian>	right
Mar 04 17:36:17 <maximian>	but yeah, a great way to verify income
Mar 04 17:36:51 <maximian>	at least half of it anyway
Mar 04 17:40:00 <kakobrekla>	o looky https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147914.msg1582968#msg1582968
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Mar 04 17:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	maximian kinda the idea.
Mar 04 17:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	o hey check that stuff out!
Mar 04 17:49:33 <Lyspooner>	on bitbet, create a long-dated bet with a close to 50-50 outcome, bet both sides of it, take advantage of the early weighting part of the algorithm
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Mar 04 17:49:43 <Lyspooner>	amirite
Mar 04 17:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	may work, yes.
Mar 04 17:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	you underwrite the marketmaker risk for a possible profit down the road.
Mar 04 17:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	im sure as more people figure out what's what there's going to be bookmaking of this sort, for everyone's benefit
Mar 04 17:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	(ocasional better gets stabler odds)
Mar 04 17:53:06 <Lyspooner>	it's an interesting way to earn positive interest rates on deposits at the expense of later bettors
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Mar 04 17:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	leading bitcoin financial instruments since 2012.
Mar 04 17:53:40 <Lyspooner>	what, bitbet?
Mar 04 17:53:42 <Bugpowder>	Lyspooner: yes of course
Mar 04 17:53:50 <Bugpowder>	This is what I did with the NFL bets
Mar 04 17:54:06 <Bugpowder>	Also set the ratio at the real moneyline
Mar 04 17:54:26 <Lyspooner>	nice
Mar 04 17:54:47 <Lyspooner>	i did something like that, where i just bought a bunch of bitcoins with money
Mar 04 17:54:52 <Bugpowder>	There is actually an optimal amount to rebet as well, against any bets that move the odds away from the line
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Mar 04 17:55:20 <Bugpowder>	however rebetting only works well if you have set the time decay such that there is little or no decay
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Mar 04 17:58:55 <Bowjob>	http://i45.tinypic.com/2uz8ao3.png
Mar 04 17:59:05 <Bowjob>	My prediction back in december
Mar 04 17:59:08 <Bowjob>	boy I was wrong
Mar 04 17:59:09 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 04 17:59:27 <kakobrekla>	critticall did a better job.
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Mar 04 18:02:34 <Bowjob>	LTC is now at 13 cents.. da fuck is going on
Mar 04 18:05:24 <dub>	retards
Mar 04 18:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	retards must has bubble.
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Mar 04 18:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4018 @ 0.00078 = 3.134 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:10:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000781 = 7.81 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:10:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00078284 = 2.6617 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 18:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0055001 = 3.3001 BTC [-]
Mar 04 18:12:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 04 18:12:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.01300, Best ask: 36.33600, Bid-ask spread: 0.32300, Last trade: 36.01300, 24 hour volume: 46753.53869852, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.45420
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Mar 04 18:25:39 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 04 18:25:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.07110, Best ask: 36.33000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25890, Last trade: 36.07110, 24 hour volume: 46733.12002181, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.45680
Mar 04 18:26:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 65 @ 0.0059 = 0.3835 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 18:32:10 <Bowjob>	the electrum irc is useless
Mar 04 18:32:16 <Bowjob>	everyone there is in limbo
Mar 04 18:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4001 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4001 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:42:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 5 @ 0.18595405 = 0.9298 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 18:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.595 = 2.38 BTC [-]
Mar 04 18:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 6,621.40925 BTC to 50`000`000 shares, 13242 satoshi per share
Mar 04 18:48:18 <maximian>	nice!
Mar 04 18:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Mar 04 18:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4000101 BTC [-]
Mar 04 18:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 15 @ 1.40001001 = 21.0002 BTC [-]
Mar 04 18:51:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34499 = 0.69 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:53:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1620 @ 0.005967 = 9.6665 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	wait.
Mar 04 18:53:51 <mircea_popescu>	what the fucking hell it downtrends pre div and then UPTRENDS post div ?
Mar 04 18:54:44 <Bugpowder>	As usual
Mar 04 18:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	does this make any sense ?!
Mar 04 18:55:45 <Bugpowder>	Maybe if people think he ain't gonna pay
Mar 04 18:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	i guess...
Mar 04 18:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	maybe somebody was trying to create a sell panic
Mar 04 18:56:37 <Bugpowder>	Small volume anyway
Mar 04 18:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	this is true
Mar 04 18:57:59 <mircea_popescu>	maybe some people reinvesting divs
Mar 04 18:58:14 <Bugpowder>	Yeah that is it
Mar 04 18:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00596998 = 2.388 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:58:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00596999 = 11.94 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:58:22 <Bugpowder>	Most likely
Mar 04 18:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4600 @ 0.00597 = 27.462 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:58:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 619 @ 0.00598 = 3.7016 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:58:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 147 @ 0.00599999 = 0.882 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:58:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1661 @ 0.00599999 = 9.966 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:58:43 <maximian>	oooh
Mar 04 18:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.006 = 30 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:58:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00600768 = 6.0077 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7695 @ 0.00611032 = 47.0189 BTC [+]
Mar 04 18:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3536 @ 0.00620077 = 21.9259 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 19:00:33 <error4733>	"maybe some people reinvesting divs"
Mar 04 19:01:50 <ThickAsThieves>	is why it always goes up after divs, it's a testament to SDICE's allure
Mar 04 19:02:47 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 04 19:02:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00500002 / 0.00587605 / 0.00620077 (53227 shares, 312.76 BTC), 7D: 0.0048 / 0.00584889 / 0.0063799 (341165 shares, 1,995.44 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00595448 / 0.007395 (6741410 shares, 40,141.61 BTC)
Mar 04 19:04:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 700 @ 0.0015 = 1.05 BTC [-]
Mar 04 19:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5652 @ 0.00078628 = 4.4441 BTC [+]
Mar 04 19:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1399 @ 0.00075212 = 1.0522 BTC [-]
Mar 04 19:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16940 @ 0.00075072 = 12.7172 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 19:14:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2280000 @ 0.00075 = 1710 BTC [-]
Mar 04 19:14:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 96 @ 0.0059 = 0.5664 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 19:15:56 <blu3gr1f1on>	I wish betbet resolutions were as fast as s.dices.
Mar 04 19:16:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00620076 = 1.2402 BTC [-]
Mar 04 19:16:18 <the_silent_wande>	hey, can anyone tell me if this last bet on http://bitbet.us/bet/267/btc-usd-at-mt-gox-will-hit-35-in-march/ will be refunded?
Mar 04 19:16:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5336 @ 0.00620077 = 33.0873 BTC [+]
Mar 04 19:16:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 134464 @ 0.006225 = 837.0384 BTC [+]
Mar 04 19:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	if only that were possible.
Mar 04 19:17:00 <the_silent_wande>	because I made that bet like three hours before it got confirmed, and I really want it to not be refunded.
Mar 04 19:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	the_silent_wande not likely
Mar 04 19:17:09 <blu3gr1f1on>	it would make you a sort of magical unicorn, able to determine outcomes of user submitted gobshite bets
Mar 04 19:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	still like 5 days to go or w/e
Mar 04 19:17:22 <the_silent_wande>	mircea_popescu thank you.
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Mar 04 19:18:03 <blu3gr1f1on>	the_silent_wande: are you the last bet for 1btc?
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Mar 04 19:18:14 <the_silent_wande>	yes
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Mar 04 19:18:27 <the_silent_wande>	<blu3gr1f1on> yeah
Mar 04 19:18:51 <blu3gr1f1on>	good timing
Mar 04 19:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6295 = 2.518 BTC [+]
Mar 04 19:19:09 <blu3gr1f1on>	did you include a mining fee?
Mar 04 19:19:16 <blu3gr1f1on>	when you sent your bet?
Mar 04 19:19:23 <the_silent_wande>	I sent via Coinbase.com
Mar 04 19:19:47 <blu3gr1f1on>	you should not keep coins there.  buy them, and MOVE THEM.
Mar 04 19:20:13 <blu3gr1f1on>	great way to get your hands on them.   poor way to store them.
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Mar 04 19:23:31 <blu3gr1f1on>	unless interested in privacy
Mar 04 19:23:34 <blu3gr1f1on>	btw
Mar 04 19:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136243652861.jpg
Mar 04 19:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	pic unrelated.
Mar 04 19:24:27 <blu3gr1f1on>	flexible
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Mar 04 19:28:06 <BitHub>	what happened with PrimeAsic?
Mar 04 19:28:08 <BitHub>	legit?
Mar 04 19:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	we don't know yet.
Mar 04 19:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	bitbet says like 100:1 legit, but i dunno.
Mar 04 19:29:23 <BitHub>	i like those odds
Mar 04 19:29:41 *	BitHub sells his house to buy up PrimeAsic, BLF and LIGHTING MINER 4.0
Mar 04 19:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6295 BTC [+]
Mar 04 19:33:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.12260046 = 1122.6005 BTC [-]
Mar 04 19:37:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 96 @ 0.0061 = 0.5856 BTC [+]
Mar 04 19:38:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 564 @ 0.00617 = 3.4799 BTC [+]
Mar 04 19:44:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
Mar 04 19:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.12080012 = 1120.8001 BTC [-]
Mar 04 19:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	eh
Mar 04 19:45:18 <mircea_popescu>	this has all the makings of adventuer
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Mar 04 19:47:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 19:52:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.34499 = 2.0699 BTC [+]
Mar 04 19:54:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00617 = 0.617 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 19:58:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
Mar 04 19:58:48 <BitHub>	.65 hey
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Mar 04 20:02:46 <jcpham>	36.40 nbd
Mar 04 20:10:21 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 04 20:10:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.22123, Best ask: 36.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17877, Last trade: 36.40000, 24 hour volume: 47630.33370173, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.51830
Mar 04 20:10:36 <Chaang-Noi>	wow.. i really should sleep more often
Mar 04 20:10:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34600 @ 0.00075 = 25.95 BTC [-]
Mar 04 20:10:49 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc too...
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Mar 04 20:21:51 <dub>	a wild libertard appears http://dailyreckoning.com/boycott-bitcoin/
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Mar 04 20:35:33 <error4733>	hey, i need 3 mate to try poker at https://strikesapphire.com/
Mar 04 20:35:58 <error4733>	freeroll in 20min but need 4 players to start
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Mar 04 20:41:00 <Namworld>	I'll login
Mar 04 20:41:01 <mircea_popescu>	dub sign bitcoin's breaking into mainstream
Mar 04 20:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 who runs that ?
Mar 04 20:43:50 <Bowjob>	Ooh. quite a huge buy
Mar 04 20:44:09 <Namworld>	where?
Mar 04 20:44:29 <Bowjob>	oh , i was talking about dice
Mar 04 20:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 04 20:45:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.39746, Best ask: 36.39929, Bid-ask spread: 0.00183, Last trade: 36.39930, 24 hour volume: 47668.19097261, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.52726
Mar 04 20:46:25 <BitHub>	hey anyone selling BTC in AUD? yeah i've tried otc
Mar 04 20:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	maybe ukto
Mar 04 20:47:27 <BitHub>	hmmm nah
Mar 04 20:47:31 <BitHub>	maybe mircea
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Mar 04 20:53:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.00078 = 0.0031 BTC [+]
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Mar 04 20:56:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00196 BTC [-]
Mar 04 20:56:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.00196 = 0.196 BTC [-]
Mar 04 20:56:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.00195 = 0.195 BTC [-]
Mar 04 20:56:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 30 @ 0.00195 = 0.0585 BTC [-]
Mar 04 20:57:43 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 1000
Mar 04 20:57:51 <gribble>	There are currently 62067.62 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 6529233.27387 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0033 seconds
Mar 04 20:58:21 <Chaang-Noi>	who has 6 million fiat on gox?
Mar 04 20:59:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075 = 3.75 BTC [-]
Mar 04 21:00:19 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 04 21:00:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.16100, Best ask: 36.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18900, Last trade: 36.39999, 24 hour volume: 46677.07588137, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.55065
Mar 04 21:00:30 <Bowjob>	just an ordinary day in bitcoinland
Mar 04 21:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075 = 3.75 BTC [-]
Mar 04 21:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11601409 = 1116.0141 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 21:07:51 <error4733>	sorry Namworld.. i forgot about asking here... I just want so see if it's better than sealclub
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Mar 04 21:09:53 <error4733>	mp : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137440.msg1465041#msg1465041
Mar 04 21:12:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11601409 = 1116.0141 BTC [-]
Mar 04 21:15:27 <dub>	error4733: haven't been on there for a while, have they actually got players these days? used to be a ghost town
Mar 04 21:15:48 <Chaang-Noi>	;;calc 47.08908/2000
Mar 04 21:15:48 <gribble>	0.02354454
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Mar 04 21:16:19 <dub>	I for one support any site that takes users away from micon
Mar 04 21:17:41 <Chaang-Noi>	micron sold it right?
Mar 04 21:17:52 <dub>	seals?
Mar 04 21:17:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought so
Mar 04 21:18:03 <pigeons>	he's the pro, he didn't own it
Mar 04 21:18:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i might be wrong
Mar 04 21:18:16 <Chaang-Noi>	okay, well who ever had it i think sold it
Mar 04 21:18:33 <dub>	oh, I stopped playing there because he's an assclown
Mar 04 21:18:44 <[\\\]>	micon never owned seals afaik
Mar 04 21:18:49 <Chaang-Noi>	when your paid pro gets business to stop playing lol
Mar 04 21:18:56 <[\\\]>	he was just a talking head
Mar 04 21:19:19 <Chaang-Noi>	i just remeber reading about seals being sold, i dont know by whom or to whom
Mar 04 21:19:31 <pigeons>	way to spread the facts ;)
Mar 04 21:19:41 <Chaang-Noi>	i try!
Mar 04 21:20:34 <Bugpowder>	Seals is run by shady poker scammers
Mar 04 21:20:39 <dub>	I like this ssaCEO's style however, he's like the al swearengen of pr
Mar 04 21:21:02 <Bugpowder>	According to a friend who knows them from way back in poker land
Mar 04 21:22:26 <pigeons>	this channel is the no gossip express today
Mar 04 21:22:32 <[\\\]>	cocksucka!
Mar 04 21:22:40 <[\\\]>	Wu!
Mar 04 21:23:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11601409 = 1116.0141 BTC [-]
Mar 04 21:23:27 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc is not a btc assets but anyone know why it went up 100% in 1.5 days?
Mar 04 21:24:00 <pigeons>	kimdotcom is accepting it for mega and pirate will pay everyone back in ltc
Mar 04 21:24:58 <[\\\]>	Chaang-Noi: same reason bitcoin has gone up 5% a day for the last several weeks.
Mar 04 21:25:13 <dub>	I think more likely because eskimobobs ugly mug mining operation is getting underway
Mar 04 21:25:35 <pigeons>	i've got one of those mugs and it is gorgeous actually
Mar 04 21:26:02 <pigeons>	but eskimobobs ugly mug mining operation sounds better
Mar 04 21:26:07 <[\\\]>	its like calling a chunk of frozen tundra greenland
Mar 04 21:26:18 <[\\\]>	and a chunk of beautiful land iceland
Mar 04 21:27:30 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons the mug is pretty cool?
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Mar 04 21:27:52 <Chaang-Noi>	ill have to look into getting one
Mar 04 21:27:59 <pigeons>	yeah i already posted pictures maybe again later
Mar 04 21:28:13 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, yeah if you do send link please, thanks
Mar 04 21:28:26 <dub>	inb4 the mug gives you aids
Mar 04 21:28:49 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, are we all drunk/high on caffine today? :)
Mar 04 21:29:10 <Chaang-Noi>	or did i miss out on a meme
Mar 04 21:29:38 <[\\\]>	high on rice
Mar 04 21:30:00 <pigeons>	i don't think its aids, i think maybe i just have mono
Mar 04 21:30:21 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh, pigeons is sick, sorry to hear that man
Mar 04 21:30:52 <pigeons>	but its a pretty mug
Mar 04 21:31:09 <dub>	pretty fucking ugly
Mar 04 21:31:56 <Chaang-Noi>	beer mug, coffee mug?
Mar 04 21:32:07 <dub>	aids mug
Mar 04 21:32:11 <[\\\]>	mug shot
Mar 04 21:32:30 <Chaang-Noi>	lol,
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Mar 04 21:40:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5815 @ 0.00074361 = 4.3241 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 21:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11362916 = 1113.6292 BTC [-]
Mar 04 21:45:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00614 = 0.0307 BTC [+]
Mar 04 21:45:47 <dub>	srsly though a home made out of who knows what mixture of clay, mud and the feces eskimoboob probably smears all over himself
Mar 04 21:46:56 <dub>	poorly glazed, porous, harbouring all manner bacteria and auto-immune disease
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Mar 04 21:48:02 <dub>	be prepared for a slow and painful death shitting yourself inside out from dysentery
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Mar 04 21:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11303376 = 1113.0338 BTC [-]
Mar 04 21:52:10 <Bugpowder_>	some big fucking positions
Mar 04 21:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	dub srsly ?
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Mar 04 21:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	i been sorta watching his venture peripherally, i find the idea rather amusing
Mar 04 21:53:07 <dub>	well, if you are comfortable easting your cornflakes out of any random homless persons asshole then go right ahead
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Mar 04 21:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ like 5k went today
Mar 04 21:53:15 <Bugpowder_>	7k
Mar 04 21:53:16 <dub>	in food hygene terms its the same thing
Mar 04 21:53:19 <Bugpowder_>	so far
Mar 04 21:53:23 <Bugpowder_>	going to 10k
Mar 04 21:53:25 <Bugpowder_>	probably
Mar 04 21:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	yah right you are
Mar 04 21:53:34 <mircea_popescu>	definitely record month
Mar 04 21:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	and it's only the 5th o wow.
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Mar 04 21:54:21 <[\\\]>	congrats
Mar 04 21:54:26 <[\\\]>	give the girl a raise
Mar 04 21:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if i'm gonna live to regret these
Mar 04 21:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	worst racket in the world, if you have no trade you're depressed, if you get trade you're worried.
Mar 04 21:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	dub it's amusing inasmuch as there's this new trend among the terminally retarded lefties
Mar 04 21:55:44 <mircea_popescu>	"make art a business"
Mar 04 21:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	as fucking if a. what they did was art and b. you can make money at art w/o an elite
Mar 04 21:56:04 <dub>	mircea_popescu: hey if he can scrape a living out of exploiting hippies thats fine. Putting anything you plan to ingest in a home made pottery receptacle is gastric russian roulette
Mar 04 21:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	it's so broken i can't put it in words
Mar 04 21:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	dub right, cause the hippies have dough.
Mar 04 21:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	through the process of what ? alchemy ?
Mar 04 21:56:38 <dub>	its not my model bro
Mar 04 21:56:45 <mircea_popescu>	unless he starts distributing tokes as dividends...
Mar 04 21:57:08 <[\\\]>	wait, you invested in dankbank?
Mar 04 21:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	someone invested in that ?
Mar 04 21:58:51 <dub>	as long has pigeons has exploding colon insurance he'll be fine too
Mar 04 21:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	you know there's some vitamin that you only get by eating dirt basically ?
Mar 04 21:59:30 <[\\\]>	yeah, its called "vitamin stupid"
Mar 04 21:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	no dood.
Mar 04 21:59:40 <dub>	vitamin lysteria
Mar 04 21:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.google.com/search?q=vitamin+dirt&complete=0
Mar 04 21:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha totally. vitamin b. haters.
Mar 04 21:59:51 <dub>	er listeria
Mar 04 22:01:18 <dub>	firstly there's no vitamin b its a group of vitamins and you get them from lots of places
Mar 04 22:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	dirt!
Mar 04 22:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11124958 = 1111.2496 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	well really, some bacteria which unlike us can synthesize it
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Mar 04 22:02:47 <dub>	eatign dirt is not a good idea, listeria is a very nasty way to die
Mar 04 22:03:48 <dub>	need vit. b? drink red bull you'll live longer
Mar 04 22:05:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00408 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:07:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.65 = 9.1 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:07:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 91 @ 0.00614 = 0.5587 BTC [+]
Mar 04 22:09:51 <Chaang-Noi>	36.8    crazy
Mar 04 22:10:07 <Chaang-Noi>	oh shit asicminer-pt is trading:)
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Mar 04 22:10:38 <BitHub>	i just got some on BitFunder
Mar 04 22:10:50 <Chaang-Noi>	what is it trading at bitfunder?
Mar 04 22:10:59 <BitHub>	same price i think
Mar 04 22:11:06 <Chaang-Noi>	cool, .65 is a good number
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Mar 04 22:11:56 <Chaang-Noi>	what is the webiste for btctc ?
Mar 04 22:12:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 49 @ 0.00615 = 0.3014 BTC [+]
Mar 04 22:13:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know the name of that other exchange :/
Mar 04 22:13:26 <BitHub>	this might sound really n00b but is there a way to exchange between PT's
Mar 04 22:13:49 <Namworld>	No, not really, why?
Mar 04 22:14:04 <Chaang-Noi>	btct.co
Mar 04 22:14:19 <Namworld>	What PT do you hold?
Mar 04 22:14:19 <Chaang-Noi>	you could but it would be a pain in the ass
Mar 04 22:14:39 <BitHub>	for example say i want an asset on BF but i only have a mpex account but i could buy an asset on BF using or leveraging an asset i have on MPEX to buy that asset on BF
Mar 04 22:15:17 <Namworld>	Not sure I understand what you mean...
Mar 04 22:15:43 <dub>	havelock has just implemented that
Mar 04 22:15:46 <BitHub>	i dont know like i said i'm probably being a real n00b
Mar 04 22:15:52 <dub>	(if I understood correctly)
Mar 04 22:15:57 <thestringpuller>	Don't trust havelock
Mar 04 22:16:11 <thestringpuller>	Havelock is controlled by the Borg.
Mar 04 22:16:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34499 BTC [+]
Mar 04 22:17:09 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 04 22:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00074361 / 0.00075087 / 0.00078628 (2432192 shares, 1,826.28 BTC), 7D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075245 / 0.00078628 (3534723 shares, 2,659.72 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067759 / 0.00078628 (62988367 shares, 42,680.30 BTC)
Mar 04 22:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.1100618 = 1110.0618 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:17:14 <BitHub>	ahh okey dub
Mar 04 22:18:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 04 22:18:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 41.20198681 / 46.0855546 (no shares, 6,242.04 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 04 22:18:20 <Namworld>	some S.DICE-PT available for 0.00599
Mar 04 22:18:42 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 04 22:18:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.85901, Best ask: 36.89300, Bid-ask spread: 0.03399, Last trade: 36.89300, 24 hour volume: 48595.38328206, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 36.90000, 24 hour vwap: 35.65034
Mar 04 22:18:57 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Mar 04 22:19:15 <Namworld>	what, we're already hitting 37
Mar 04 22:21:15 <error4733>	not fun for me, since i start in december
Mar 04 22:21:27 <error4733>	it was ALWAYS rally time
Mar 04 22:21:52 <Namworld>	I bought in at 5 USD and 10 USD
Mar 04 22:21:59 <error4733>	and sold at ?
Mar 04 22:22:22 <Namworld>	Haven't sold, lost them to some bad "miner"
Mar 04 22:22:27 <Namworld>	Mostly
Mar 04 22:22:34 <error4733>	sick
Mar 04 22:22:42 <error4733>	but u're still in
Mar 04 22:22:45 <dub>	bad miner?
Mar 04 22:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00584168 = 0.5842 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:23:05 <error4733>	bad invest in ASCISMINER right ?
Mar 04 22:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 give it time, it may collapse once more.
Mar 04 22:24:17 <Namworld>	ASICMINER is selling for 6x what it IPOed at
Mar 04 22:24:51 <error4733>	mp : obv, i'm not like i bet my house on infinite rally
Mar 04 22:25:06 <error4733>	in fact yes, but it's a other question
Mar 04 22:25:36 <error4733>	i hope a crash for a good re entry spot
Mar 04 22:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol wghat ?!
Mar 04 22:26:08 <BitHub>	i'm going to make a long term 100 play
Mar 04 22:26:17 <BitHub>	so anything under 100$ is good enough for me
Mar 04 22:26:27 <BitHub>	lets do it
Mar 04 22:26:38 *	BitHub taps into the kids college funds
Mar 04 22:26:49 <error4733>	so u mining with gpu ?
Mar 04 22:27:43 <Namworld>	no, was lending to Amazingrando, waiting to have enough for a BFL rig. But Amazingrando never repaid.
Mar 04 22:28:02 <error4733>	when i should stop mining with GPU if i thinks BTC'll hit 200$ ?
Mar 04 22:28:31 <dub>	how much does your power cost
Mar 04 22:28:34 <error4733>	i never start but
Mar 04 22:28:55 <mircea_popescu>	if you never started then don't start.
Mar 04 22:29:00 <BitHub>	so i guess PrimeAsic was fake?
Mar 04 22:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub why ?
Mar 04 22:29:20 <BitHub>	that's what i'm asking
Mar 04 22:29:21 <BitHub>	was it?
Mar 04 22:29:30 <aiball>	!ticker .sbbet
Mar 04 22:29:30 <assbot>	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
Mar 04 22:29:30 <BitHub>	site's down
Mar 04 22:29:40 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 04 22:29:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.82002, Best ask: 36.94000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11998, Last trade: 36.80000, 24 hour volume: 49186.53224211, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.00000, 24 hour vwap: 35.67406
Mar 04 22:29:46 <Chaang-Noi>	37 wow
Mar 04 22:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	afaik we don't know yet.
Mar 04 22:29:57 <aiball>	;;ticker s.bbet
Mar 04 22:29:57 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Mar 04 22:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Mar 04 22:30:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0015 / 0.00175636 / 0.00197 (76200 shares, 133.83 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00176507 / 0.00197 (79498 shares, 140.32 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00165614 / 0.00197 (128608 shares, 212.99 BTC)
Mar 04 22:30:16 <aiball>	thanks!
Mar 04 22:30:20 <BitHub>	ahhh okey
Mar 04 22:30:42 <mircea_popescu>	bitbet bet gives them good odds of being real, but i dunno.
Mar 04 22:30:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 375 @ 1.10887536 = 415.8283 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:33:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00878 BTC [+]
Mar 04 22:33:39 <dub>	error4733: if you had cheap power and efficient GPUs you're good till around 100mn diff
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Mar 04 22:36:09 <error4733>	neither of the two...
Mar 04 22:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	sooo, is that the end of it ?
Mar 04 22:36:26 <error4733>	thinks so
Mar 04 22:36:48 <BitHub>	hmmmm
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Mar 04 22:38:39 <error4733>	but i want try, i think it's a good way to learn BTC
Mar 04 22:41:02 <error4733>	don't care about the 0.000000475 btc/day
Mar 04 22:41:50 <error4733>	good way also to understand altcoin, why is good, why is a scam
Mar 04 22:42:16 <dub>	not sure it is tbh, theres also teh heat, noise, decreased MTBF of your hardware
Mar 04 22:43:43 <dub>	might be fun to give it a try but I wouldn't be buying new GPUs at this point unless you plan to pwn n00bs with them on the side
Mar 04 22:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00561 = 28.05 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00560001 = 11.2 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.005501 = 2.2004 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:44:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.005501 = 1.1002 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:44:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 19900 @ 0.0054 = 107.46 BTC [-]
Mar 04 22:44:54 <error4733>	no one be objective with altcoin bc they old one but hate the new one, etc
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Mar 04 22:48:38 <Chaang-Noi>	og fuck yeah http://www.namecheap.com/support/payment-options/bitcoin.aspx
Mar 04 22:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	ok, that's great.
Mar 04 22:50:08 <thismustb>	hey guys, do you know any MT4 trading platforms that allow leverage and would let you have a live account with not that much money?
Mar 04 22:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	thismustb kakobrekla's thing maybe ?
Mar 04 22:50:41 <thismustb>	yea thats why i went to this channel but his site says 50BTC min deposit
Mar 04 22:50:46 <thismustb>	that's a bit steep at current rates
Mar 04 22:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 04 22:51:10 <Chaang-Noi>	i use namecheap, can wait to pay my next bills :)
Mar 04 22:51:15 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't he saying something about deci bitcoin lots or something ?
Mar 04 22:51:46 <thismustb>	hehe i dont know, i've only traded forex before, no experience in btc yet
Mar 04 22:52:04 <thismustb>	i just forgot 40$ in bitcoins about a year ago. then i saw btc is at 36$ now
Mar 04 22:52:10 <thismustb>	opened my BTC and bam 400$
Mar 04 22:52:17 <thismustb>	i was like wow, i should just try trading that
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Mar 04 22:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 04 22:54:58 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/308235762103644161
Mar 04 22:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	tweeter liked that one lol
Mar 04 22:55:29 <Eduard_Munteanu>	You guys don't celebrate? We just broke $37! :)
Mar 04 22:55:31 <dub>	dude.. that picture
Mar 04 22:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	dub which ?
Mar 04 22:55:55 <dub>	you are a fucking baller
Mar 04 22:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 04 22:55:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.80002, Best ask: 36.99960, Bid-ask spread: 0.19958, Last trade: 36.99960, 24 hour volume: 49556.91047748, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.00000, 24 hour vwap: 35.70360
Mar 04 22:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	yes im a baller lol
Mar 04 22:56:05 <dub>	the background
Mar 04 22:56:08 *	Eduard_Munteanu lols at mircea_popescu's photo
Mar 04 22:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	that was me in mexico, eating chocolate bonbons in the street
Mar 04 22:56:45 <mircea_popescu>	with like, a red purse, white suit. sent it back home the agape silence could be heard across the ocean.
Mar 04 22:57:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00616 = 0.0123 BTC [-]
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Mar 04 22:58:59 <ThickAsThieves>	the photo is quite epic indeed
Mar 04 23:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's fair tho, girl was carying my jacket, so.
Mar 04 23:00:44 <ThickAsThieves>	are you wearing her pants too?
Mar 04 23:01:01 <mircea_popescu>	no, those are my pants.,
Mar 04 23:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	girls don't get pants.
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Mar 04 23:02:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.65 = 7.15 BTC [-]
Mar 04 23:02:56 <Chaang-Noi>	go asic miner :)
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Mar 04 23:03:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont understand why people are buying on btct when they are 100% divs on BF
Mar 04 23:03:49 <ThickAsThieves>	at same price
Mar 04 23:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	they prefer the design.
Mar 04 23:04:29 <Chaang-Noi>	trust in the exchange
Mar 04 23:04:55 <Chaang-Noi>	if i used one already id not make a new account for 10 shares and just lose the 5%
Mar 04 23:05:38 <ThickAsThieves>	trust could be an answer
Mar 04 23:05:55 <Ukto>	hopfully soon there will be more reasons to want one exchange over another, at least regarding the services that the exchange offers. >:P
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Mar 04 23:06:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i have nothing against either, but i do find myself on BF more and more
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Mar 04 23:07:36 <ThickAsThieves>	Namworld gets props for being the fastes sdice PT div payer
Mar 04 23:09:04 <Namworld>	I try to give dividends the same day.
Mar 04 23:09:45 <Namworld>	I even got the div on S.MPOE out before it was actually made
Mar 04 23:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	that's nice.
Mar 04 23:10:28 <ThickAsThieves>	took me a couple days to notice that one
Mar 04 23:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	maybe i should pay negative divs
Mar 04 23:11:09 <Ukto>	LOL
Mar 04 23:11:13 <ThickAsThieves>	should make the price go up higher
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Mar 04 23:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	bit tit ?!
Mar 04 23:12:22 <ThickAsThieves>	BitIT probly
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Mar 04 23:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	a while back the girl went on some stripper forum to give them free btc
Mar 04 23:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	the airheads wouldn't take it.
Mar 04 23:13:51 <mircea_popescu>	i guess there's no bit tit ;/
Mar 04 23:14:07 <ThickAsThieves>	that was a good read
Mar 04 23:14:44 <dub>	that was your girl?
Mar 04 23:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	dub "that"
Mar 04 23:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	the dilemma of cluelessness. if you give it free then it must be worthless or else you wouldn't give it for free. if you sell it then it's not worth it.
Mar 04 23:15:21 <dub>	on the cam girl forum
Mar 04 23:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	trying to go through life without a head must be painful.
Mar 04 23:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	dub mpoe-pr is mpoe-pr ya know ?
Mar 04 23:15:53 <ThickAsThieves>	yeesh 37.34 already
Mar 04 23:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 04 23:15:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.21510, Best ask: 37.34000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12490, Last trade: 37.21510, 24 hour volume: 50374.26609504, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.34000, 24 hour vwap: 35.73039
Mar 04 23:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	shit's crazy
Mar 04 23:16:31 <ThickAsThieves>	when do we start to worry
Mar 04 23:16:33 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I'm pondering what price should I leave a sell order at for the night.
Mar 04 23:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	i'd say if it goes over 100
Mar 04 23:16:40 <ThickAsThieves>	seems like it can't end now
Mar 04 23:16:51 <ThickAsThieves>	everyone be speculatin
Mar 04 23:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	50 i would guess is possible, but over 100 is bubble territory.
Mar 04 23:17:06 <ThickAsThieves>	but can't we reach the sungularity soon
Mar 04 23:17:17 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I think we've just begun attracting the Wall Street guys into it.
Mar 04 23:17:24 <ThickAsThieves>	singularity
Mar 04 23:17:29 <Chaang-Noi>	it looks like to me all the bears who tried to sell are gone... we dont even get small correctios anymore
Mar 04 23:17:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i think eduard is right,
Mar 04 23:17:55 <Chaang-Noi>	and also the mega guys...
Mar 04 23:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	ya, all those millions coinlab is selling.
Mar 04 23:18:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 50
Mar 04 23:18:09 <gribble>	There are currently 18100.683 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 776692.059089 USD in total. | Data vintage: 67.7184 seconds
Mar 04 23:18:18 <ThickAsThieves>	that's nothing
Mar 04 23:18:24 <Eduard_Munteanu>	You kinda get a sort of correction, but it's not much to scalp.
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Mar 04 23:18:53 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I do try to scalp a bit though, I don't make a lot compared to the trend, but it's still something.
Mar 04 23:19:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i don;t under stand why some millionaire hasn't bought it into oblivion yet
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Mar 04 23:19:29 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Because volatility...
Mar 04 23:19:41 <Ukto>	they are not millionaires for nothing. well, not most
Mar 04 23:19:42 <Eduard_Munteanu>	But as time passes that may become less of a problem.
Mar 04 23:19:43 <Ukto>	and what about MP?
Mar 04 23:19:46 <dub>	I think to be safe some millionair would need to buy a proper dev team first
Mar 04 23:19:47 <Ukto>	he has lots of btc
Mar 04 23:19:47 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 04 23:20:12 <ThickAsThieves>	now lite coin is .00353btc/.125usd
Mar 04 23:20:24 <ThickAsThieves>	sry .00367btc
Mar 04 23:20:25 <dub>	failure there is the biggest risk imo
Mar 04 23:20:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i heart ltc
Mar 04 23:20:50 <Chaang-Noi>	sold some btc to buy wife a truck, then made it back in one day with ltc
Mar 04 23:21:16 *	Ukto sells Chaang-Noi
Mar 04 23:21:33 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, i doubt im worth anything
Mar 04 23:21:41 <Chaang-Noi>	most people pay to get rid of me! :)
Mar 04 23:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	of course, all this was foretold http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/
Mar 04 23:22:08 *	mircea_popescu grins
Mar 04 23:22:11 *	Eduard_Munteanu hands Chaang-Noi three fitty
Mar 04 23:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	"As a complete aside: putting a 5mn BTC buywall @ $200 each up in MtGox might actually be the most rational use of a billion dollars currently. You'll end up with 2-3 mn BTC and the price will be permanently in the hundreds. Profit."
Mar 04 23:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130941.msg1403357#msg1403357
Mar 04 23:26:23 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: what's your background btw? Anything economics-related or not?
Mar 04 23:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	physics adn philosophy.
Mar 04 23:27:15 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Interesting. Mine's systems / control engineering, though I'm mostly a software dude.
Mar 04 23:27:34 <ThickAsThieves>	has missed that article thx
Mar 04 23:27:36 <ThickAsThieves>	had
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Mar 04 23:28:07 <ThickAsThieves>	i imagine the bit time alt coins wars is a likely part of butcoins future
Mar 04 23:28:11 <mircea_popescu>	i was in what they called at the time a "suprareal" class in highschool. basically romania's gifted kids programme.
Mar 04 23:28:12 <ThickAsThieves>	liek a Google coin
Mar 04 23:28:16 <ThickAsThieves>	or a US altcoin
Mar 04 23:28:21 <ThickAsThieves>	EU altcoin
Mar 04 23:28:22 <ThickAsThieves>	etc
Mar 04 23:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	got admitted to bbu with 10 on grounds of olympiads
Mar 04 23:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	and finished philosophy/antrhopology at aiu
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Mar 04 23:31:15 <ThickAsThieves>	typing like shit tonight... not exactly sober
Mar 04 23:31:35 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Nice, mircea_popescu.
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Mar 04 23:37:50 <topace_>	hey mircea_popescu you there?
Mar 04 23:38:01 <topace_>	any chance you can approve my withdraw so i can pay my dividends? :)
Mar 04 23:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 04 23:40:21 <topace_>	thanks!
Mar 04 23:41:19 <topace_>	think someone was trying to be sneaky and push units from mpex->havelock to get the dividend twice
Mar 04 23:41:39 <topace_>	pay dividend first, THEN ill approve the push :)
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Mar 04 23:41:51 <topace_>	i guess thats a "gotcha" for automatic push processing
Mar 04 23:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 04 23:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	yeah totally.
Mar 04 23:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	too much automation isn't healthy in finance anyway
Mar 04 23:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	course it may be a good idea to just ignore the thing and let people fleece you.
Mar 04 23:44:20 <mircea_popescu>	paying a 2% for new business may not be a bad deal, and besides, people value a dollar they think they stole above one they had to earn.
Mar 04 23:44:39 <topace_>	haha thats true
Mar 04 23:51:25 <topace_>	excellent dividend paid... g'nite
Mar 04 23:52:09 <topace_>	(and pending mpex push approved)
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Mar 04 23:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 04 23:58:55 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 1 second
Mar 04 23:59:02 <mircea_popescu>	is it me or are blocks incredibly fast.
Mar 04 23:59:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 04 23:59:42 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 224327 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1464 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 19 hours, 39 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4826833.94454 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.50758
Mar 04 23:59:59 <Chaang-Noi>	we had 7 blocks in 15 mins last night...
Mar 05 00:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	10% huh.
Mar 05 00:00:11 <Chaang-Noi>	14 hours ago
Mar 05 00:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	so basically, 1k blocks went by in 2 days ?
Mar 05 00:01:22 <Chaang-Noi>	closer to 8500?
Mar 05 00:01:34 <Chaang-Noi>	lol wait what?
Mar 05 00:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	iirc about 2 days ago we were just starting this current diff
Mar 05 00:01:48 <Chaang-Noi>	1 blocks in 2 days?
Mar 05 00:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	1k = 1000
Mar 05 00:01:54 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe something to do with why the diff est was so high at first
Mar 05 00:02:12 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think we did 1k blocks in 2 days, thats crazy
Mar 05 00:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 05 00:02:15 <gribble>	Time since last block: 4 minutes and 22 seconds
Mar 05 00:02:39 <Chaang-Noi>	288 blocks are normal for 2 days
Mar 05 00:03:07 <Chaang-Noi>	1k in 2 days is 4004 normal
Mar 05 00:03:09 <Chaang-Noi>	400$
Mar 05 00:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	we did ~480 in the past 48 hours
Mar 05 00:03:14 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck,,, 400%
Mar 05 00:03:24 <Chaang-Noi>	480 i could buy that... 1k no ;)
Mar 05 00:03:33 <mircea_popescu>	i was just guessing.
Mar 05 00:03:53 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i knew it was higher than normal but seemed pretty high even for a ballpark guess
Mar 05 00:04:14 <Chaang-Noi>	i saw the 7 block in 15 mins and was like shiiit...
Mar 05 00:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 05 00:04:25 <gribble>	Time since last block: 6 minutes and 32 seconds
Mar 05 00:04:32 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is more normal
Mar 05 00:04:36 <Chaang-Noi>	http://blockchain.info/    last 7 blocks and time
Mar 05 00:04:54 <Chaang-Noi>	6, 8, 13, 38, 42, 46, and 52 mins ago
Mar 05 00:05:00 <Chaang-Noi>	fast but somehwat close to normal
Mar 05 00:05:41 <mircea_popescu>	8 instead of 6
Mar 05 00:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/308799432818839552
Mar 05 00:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	hehe ver is late
Mar 05 00:08:07 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah he is
Mar 05 00:08:15 <Chaang-Noi>	but still, cant hurt to post
Mar 05 00:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	absolutely.
Mar 05 00:08:43 <Chaang-Noi>	its a significant site for tech type people
Mar 05 00:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://endthelie.com/2013/02/28/ulterior-motives-behind-the-copyright-alert-system/#axzz2MdgHZkPO
Mar 05 00:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	this is hysterical.
Mar 05 00:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	Brooke: What happens if you get 7, 8 and 9 strikes?
Mar 05 00:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	Jill: We hope by the time people get to alerts 5 or 6, they’ll stop.  Once they’ve been mitigated, once they received several alerts, we’re just not going to send them any more alerts because they’re not the kind of customer we’re going to reach with this program
Mar 05 00:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck is this bs.
Mar 05 00:11:13 <mircea_popescu>	"Once they’ve been mitigated"
Mar 05 00:11:17 <Chaang-Noi>	tor everything :/
Mar 05 00:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	have you been mitigated ?
Mar 05 00:12:19 <ThickAsThieves>	these guys have the right idea, www.bitfetch.com
Mar 05 00:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	0.005 BTC / GB
Mar 05 00:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	so basically pay them the 15 cents per movie that the miaa won't take.
Mar 05 00:13:15 <Chaang-Noi>	was their not already a bitcoin service taht did this?
Mar 05 00:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	why not just get netflix
Mar 05 00:13:37 <ThickAsThieves>	youc an dl any torrent
Mar 05 00:13:41 <ThickAsThieves>	apps, etc
Mar 05 00:13:42 <Chaang-Noi>	my parents in the us got rid of tv and got netflixs
Mar 05 00:13:49 <ThickAsThieves>	also netflix doesnt have everything
Mar 05 00:13:52 <Chaang-Noi>	they dont pirate...
Mar 05 00:14:03 <Chaang-Noi>	what is netflixs each month?
Mar 05 00:14:10 <ThickAsThieves>	$10?
Mar 05 00:14:16 <ThickAsThieves>	i have it and i dont know
Mar 05 00:14:18 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh cable tv was like $60
Mar 05 00:14:18 <ThickAsThieves>	cheap
Mar 05 00:14:26 <Chaang-Noi>	i see why they moved
Mar 05 00:14:33 <Chaang-Noi>	they dont even watch much tv...
Mar 05 00:14:34 <ThickAsThieves>	fukn comcast cable package is like $150 or some shit
Mar 05 00:14:41 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 05 00:14:55 <Chaang-Noi>	if i go back to the usa ill get google fiber
Mar 05 00:16:56 <maximian>	looks like assbot is dead
Mar 05 00:17:24 <Chaang-Noi>	or no action?
Mar 05 00:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker assbot is dead
Mar 05 00:17:44 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 05 00:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 05 00:18:48 <ThickAsThieves>	37.70
Mar 05 00:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 00:19:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.25001, Best ask: 37.37400, Bid-ask spread: 0.12399, Last trade: 37.37400, 24 hour volume: 51650.54746078, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.79829
Mar 05 00:19:36 <ThickAsThieves>	40 in 12hrs?
Mar 05 00:19:54 <pizzaman1337>	it's just nuts
Mar 05 00:20:05 <BitHub>	way overpiced
Mar 05 00:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	ponzi.
Mar 05 00:20:27 <BitHub>	throwing cash at this thing and losing out
Mar 05 00:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	how are you losing out ?
Mar 05 00:20:52 <BitHub>	i dont know
Mar 05 00:21:00 <ThickAsThieves>	still plenty of atmosphere for this bubble
Mar 05 00:21:24 <BitHub>	tell me if you think this is a good idea
Mar 05 00:21:40 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 05 00:21:44 <BitHub>	from now till end of the year i'm not going to sell any btc and just keep buying and buying up till end of the year
Mar 05 00:21:55 <ThickAsThieves>	thats what everyone else is doing
Mar 05 00:22:00 <BitHub>	so anything under 100$ is good right?
Mar 05 00:22:07 <Chaang-Noi>	damn 37.7
Mar 05 00:22:08 <mircea_popescu>	haha how should i know ?!
Mar 05 00:22:40 <ThickAsThieves>	what kind of bitcoin messiah are you?
Mar 05 00:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	me ?!
Mar 05 00:23:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess not!
Mar 05 00:23:18 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 05 00:23:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=4days
Mar 05 00:23:39 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, you obv server a paternal role here
Mar 05 00:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	this is ther sound of btcguild crushing everyone
Mar 05 00:23:42 <BitHub>	i just need to know
Mar 05 00:23:45 <ThickAsThieves>	peeps gonna ask for guidance
Mar 05 00:23:50 <BitHub>	do we have a chance of hitting 500 onday?
Mar 05 00:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	well ok, but ask me for guidance about how to stuff the vagoo, not about wtf the price will be
Mar 05 00:24:04 <ThickAsThieves>	we have a chacne to hit many numbers
Mar 05 00:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub in principle we have a chance to hit any finite ratio within a finite interval.
Mar 05 00:24:37 <BitHub>	oh jesus
Mar 05 00:24:40 *	BitHub panics
Mar 05 00:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	deepbit + 50btc + slush < btc guild.
Mar 05 00:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	i should have had a bet up for this
Mar 05 00:26:11 <ThickAsThieves>	if you make a bet for any pool vs BTCguild, that pool's userbase will grow
Mar 05 00:30:25 <ThickAsThieves>	there i submitted one
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Mar 05 00:31:10 <grubles>	i think i just now got the reason for naming assbot it's name
Mar 05 00:31:45 <BitHub>	should be trollbot
Mar 05 00:33:30 <mircea_popescu>	someone shuld make buttobt
Mar 05 00:33:56 <grubles>	just change everything to butt
Mar 05 00:33:57 <grubles>	buttsets
Mar 05 00:34:11 <grubles>	it's much more politically correct
Mar 05 00:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	ok buttbles
Mar 05 00:34:59 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe buttbot can kick spammers (spam detected)
Mar 05 00:35:21 <grubles>	buttbles works
Mar 05 00:35:23 <mircea_popescu>	buttbot and assbot cvould have an assbutt baby
Mar 05 00:35:41 <grubles>	(if you google the urban dictionary definition of grubbles, that is)
Mar 05 00:35:52 <ThickAsThieves>	Would it be possible to definively know if someone bought the entire Gox ask wall for one moment?
Mar 05 00:36:18 <grubles>	no
Mar 05 00:36:27 <mircea_popescu>	volume
Mar 05 00:36:53 <grubles>	what about bots
Mar 05 00:37:50 <ThickAsThieves>	wouldn't it be represented visually on goxlive by the center line touching the right side?
Mar 05 00:38:25 <ThickAsThieves>	or i guess it would move
Mar 05 00:38:28 <ThickAsThieves>	meh
Mar 05 00:38:41 <ThickAsThieves>	thought it might a decent bet
Mar 05 00:38:50 <ThickAsThieves>	be
Mar 05 00:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Mar 05 00:41:49 <grubles>	you still couldnt tell if there were 100 people buying coins or 1
Mar 05 00:42:20 <ThickAsThieves>	oh well
Mar 05 00:42:47 <grubles>	unless you were magicaltux
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Mar 05 00:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13624623944.gif
Mar 05 00:47:41 <ThickAsThieves>	the force is strong in that one
Mar 05 00:47:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 00:48:38 <grubles>	since when do stormtroopers wear sheets
Mar 05 00:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	since katrina
Mar 05 00:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	blew away their other gear
Mar 05 00:49:22 <grubles>	everything but their stormtrooper helmet?
Mar 05 00:49:27 <grubles>	thats a bit ironic isnt it?
Mar 05 00:49:30 <BitHub>	one of your camping trips again mircea?
Mar 05 00:49:31 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so. yeah
Mar 05 00:49:36 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like he's still getting blown away
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Mar 05 00:49:44 <grubles>	hiyooooo!
Mar 05 00:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub no, i'm not geek enough
Mar 05 00:49:59 <grubles>	mircea_popescu: youre missing out
Mar 05 00:50:15 <mircea_popescu>	prolly
Mar 05 00:50:21 <BitHub>	haha
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Mar 05 00:52:21 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/05/bicyclists_as_polluters/   When contacted by the Seattle Bike Blog, representative Orcutt stuck to his guns. "You would be giving off more CO2 if you are riding a bike than driving in a car," he said, but he admitted that he had not "done any analysis"
Mar 05 00:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	"Well I was looking for a trader to grab 5 bitcoins from for days,and this asshole pm'ed me saying he had them. I should've known better,but was desperate and time was of the essence. I really needed these 5 bitcoins for an emergency too. Anyway I gave him my mpak and receipt and he hasnt been back since (3 days)."
Mar 05 00:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	what may that emergency have been'
Mar 05 00:55:56 <ThickAsThieves>	drugs
Mar 05 00:56:00 <BitHub>	btc4cam.com
Mar 05 00:56:22 <grubles>	drugs
Mar 05 00:56:46 <ThickAsThieves>	he needed to save his kidnapped daughter from human traffickers, using mostly karate chops
Mar 05 00:56:58 <ThickAsThieves>	and bitcoins
Mar 05 01:01:08 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 05 01:01:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.65364, Best ask: 37.76034, Bid-ask spread: 0.10670, Last trade: 37.65364, 24 hour volume: 52475.05497893, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.76034, 24 hour vwap: 35.85542
Mar 05 01:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149198.0
Mar 05 01:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;title
Mar 05 01:02:20 <gribble>	(title <url>) -- Returns the HTML <title>...</title> of a URL.
Mar 05 01:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149198.0
Mar 05 01:02:29 <gribble>	Bitcoin protocol broken?
Mar 05 01:06:29 <Chaang-Noi>	dat wall at 37
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Mar 05 01:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82184.msg1581015#msg1581015
Mar 05 01:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	lulzy.
Mar 05 01:13:56 <Chaang-Noi>	mp check out he blocks http://blockchain.info/
Mar 05 01:14:02 <Chaang-Noi>	7 in 21 mins
Mar 05 01:14:41 <mircea_popescu>	le ouch
Mar 05 01:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	so is there anything to this story about asicminer chips blowing out like baloons or just bs ?
Mar 05 01:15:54 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer has not been proven to mine over 5th
Mar 05 01:16:04 <Chaang-Noi>	we seem to have hit a wall and no one knows why
Mar 05 01:16:18 <BitHub>	:/
Mar 05 01:16:20 <BitHub>	what?
Mar 05 01:16:25 <Chaang-Noi>	this could be for 1000 different reasons
Mar 05 01:16:37 <Chaang-Noi>	im not worried
Mar 05 01:16:41 <BitHub>	i am
Mar 05 01:16:44 <Chaang-Noi>	the chips blowing out i call bs
Mar 05 01:16:44 <BitHub>	wtf
Mar 05 01:17:20 <Chaang-Noi>	clearly they are mining like crazy... also i expect the next dividend to be crazy
Mar 05 01:18:05 <mircea_popescu>	well which is it, like crazy or hit a wall ?
Mar 05 01:18:57 <BitHub>	the forum post don't look good
Mar 05 01:23:05 <dub>	friedcat said they were having power problems
Mar 05 01:23:08 <[\\\]>	why would the next dividend by crazy?
Mar 05 01:23:45 <[\\\]>	they've onyl paid out 30% of ipo to date and once they hit that threshold, twice as many shares will be collecting future dividends
Mar 05 01:24:03 <[\\\]>	be*, only*
Mar 05 01:24:04 <Chaang-Noi>	first dividend they took out paying off a lot of debt, i assume second dividend all debt has been delat with
Mar 05 01:24:12 <BitHub>	here we go
Mar 05 01:24:37 <[\\\]>	and what about in 2 weeks when 300 avalons finally arrive?
Mar 05 01:24:42 <[\\\]>	and bfl starts shipping?
Mar 05 01:24:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i said next dividend, not in a month...
Mar 05 01:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	isn't div monthly ?
Mar 05 01:25:07 <Chaang-Noi>	every wednesday in OP
Mar 05 01:25:10 <[\\\]>	its whenever friedcata gets to it
Mar 05 01:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	weekly ? that's kinda silly.
Mar 05 01:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway
Mar 05 01:25:24 <Chaang-Noi>	op says weekly and every wednesday...
Mar 05 01:25:44 <Chaang-Noi>	will that happen i dont know...
Mar 05 01:25:50 <Chaang-Noi>	but i bought assuming it would...
Mar 05 01:25:55 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: some say thats not soon enough
Mar 05 01:26:06 <[\\\]>	you know, miners should be paid instantaneously
Mar 05 01:26:10 <BitHub>	sweet weekly
Mar 05 01:26:11 <Chaang-Noi>	might get changed to thursday however cuz of last week but i expect weekly and i expect this week to be like .05 maybe
Mar 05 01:26:30 <BitHub>	each share?
Mar 05 01:26:36 <[\\\]>	how long did they mine before paying the first dividend?
Mar 05 01:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] heh. yeah.
Mar 05 01:26:41 <Chaang-Noi>	they got atleast 15% of the network right?
Mar 05 01:26:46 <[\\\]>	no
Mar 05 01:26:49 <[\\\]>	well, close
Mar 05 01:26:52 <[\\\]>	;;nethahs
Mar 05 01:26:52 <gribble>	Error: "nethahs" is not a valid command.
Mar 05 01:26:55 <[\\\]>	;;nethash
Mar 05 01:26:55 <gribble>	36234.3320016
Mar 05 01:27:05 <ThickAsThieves>	they mined for what, 2 weeks?
Mar 05 01:27:06 <BitHub>	awww yeah i hope its .05 per share
Mar 05 01:27:18 <[\\\]>	2 they mined for 2 weeks, paid debt, paid .03 div
Mar 05 01:27:22 <[\\\]>	so now they've mined for 1 week
Mar 05 01:27:24 <[\\\]>	and diff went up
Mar 05 01:27:30 <[\\\]>	expecting .05 is a bit much
Mar 05 01:27:45 <Chaang-Noi>	okay i did the math, maybe .02 is beter
Mar 05 01:27:49 <Chaang-Noi>	my guess was high
Mar 05 01:28:13 <Chaang-Noi>	still a very nice weekly div
Mar 05 01:28:18 <[\\\]>	it won't last
Mar 05 01:28:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i kow
Mar 05 01:28:26 <[\\\]>	another week, another 15% diff jump
Mar 05 01:28:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i never said it would:)
Mar 05 01:28:30 <ThickAsThieves>	or will it?
Mar 05 01:28:32 <[\\\]>	another week, 300 avalons
Mar 05 01:28:43 <Chaang-Noi>	but if 5th gos to 12 th and 12 th goes to 60 th....
Mar 05 01:28:55 <[\\\]>	Chaang-Noi: after .1, your div gets cut in half
Mar 05 01:28:55 <ThickAsThieves>	right
Mar 05 01:28:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought batch one shipped in jan? :)
Mar 05 01:29:01 <[\\\]>	so it takes doubling just to keep even
Mar 05 01:29:15 <[\\\]>	it was never to ship in jan
Mar 05 01:29:18 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah the .1 get cut in half, but that money gets invested into new asics right?
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Mar 05 01:29:36 <Chaang-Noi>	new asics means more TH/s...
Mar 05 01:29:44 <[\\\]>	that will cost money
Mar 05 01:29:49 <[\\\]>	those shares aren't the company
Mar 05 01:29:50 <Chaang-Noi>	im pretty happy with asicminer, and if bfl keeps failing...
Mar 05 01:29:54 <[\\\]>	friedcat has to get paid
Mar 05 01:30:03 <[\\\]>	those three own the other half
Mar 05 01:30:22 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh. then they will be rich mofos...
Mar 05 01:30:27 <[\\\]>	yeah
Mar 05 01:30:55 <Chaang-Noi>	still im pretty happy
Mar 05 01:31:00 <[\\\]>	perhaps
Mar 05 01:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 05 01:31:10 <[\\\]>	anyone paying .6/share is gonna take a long while to pay off
Mar 05 01:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	aww assbot!
Mar 05 01:31:26 <Chaang-Noi>	im going to assume they keep 10% network for a year and see what that brings in...
Mar 05 01:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] last i saw it was like 100 btc
Mar 05 01:31:41 <[\\\]>	huh?
Mar 05 01:31:47 <[\\\]>	who is paying 100 btc a share?
Mar 05 01:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	no, total volume
Mar 05 01:31:52 <[\\\]>	I've got a bunch to sell then
Mar 05 01:31:54 <[\\\]>	oh
Mar 05 01:31:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i think he means vol
Mar 05 01:31:59 <[\\\]>	yeah, no depth
Mar 05 01:32:06 <[\\\]>	point still remains
Mar 05 01:32:17 <[\\\]>	anyone buying at .6 will take a while to pay off
Mar 05 01:32:24 <ThickAsThieves>	you dont necessarily need to "pay off" the share at all
Mar 05 01:32:26 <ThickAsThieves>	you can sell it
Mar 05 01:32:32 <Chaang-Noi>	;;calc 25 x 6 x 24 x 365
Mar 05 01:32:33 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 05 01:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	throwing * a litte* away on a long bet isn't necessarily a bad strategy
Mar 05 01:32:35 <[\\\]>	assuming the company survives
Mar 05 01:32:49 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: aye, been there, done that ;)
Mar 05 01:32:52 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 05 01:33:26 <[\\\]>	until they can answer why they're stuck on 5
Mar 05 01:33:28 <[\\\]>	I'm jaded
Mar 05 01:33:31 <Chaang-Noi>	okay assuming they only keep 105 of the network on average for a year that is .3285 in two years double that to about what it is selling for now...
Mar 05 01:33:43 <[\\\]>	two years in bitcoin is forever
Mar 05 01:34:06 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i sold some at .6 but keeping the alst half,
Mar 05 01:34:15 <Chaang-Noi>	also if they get 20% on average for a eyar that is much higher
Mar 05 01:34:21 <ThickAsThieves>	they really should give info about what the hold up is
Mar 05 01:34:22 <[\\\]>	what happens when the sec decides to start investigating us holders?
Mar 05 01:34:24 <Chaang-Noi>	and bfl fucks up hard and they get 40%....
Mar 05 01:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	they won't get 20% for a year tho, that's excessive.
Mar 05 01:34:37 <[\\\]>	Chaang-Noi, now you're just being stupid
Mar 05 01:34:38 <Chaang-Noi>	sec goes to china lol?? wtf
Mar 05 01:34:44 <mircea_popescu>	at these prices market will be awash in real asics this year
Mar 05 01:34:46 <[\\\]>	Chaang-Noi, the sec doesn't have to go to china
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Mar 05 01:34:56 <Chaang-Noi>	im in thailand i dont give a shit...
Mar 05 01:35:02 <Chaang-Noi>	they cant get my wallet i dont care
Mar 05 01:35:08 <[\\\]>	ah right, because you're untouchable
Mar 05 01:35:11 <Chaang-Noi>	friedcat has my shares
Mar 05 01:35:19 <[\\\]>	is that why you were pissing your pants about your passthrough?
Mar 05 01:35:21 <BitHub>	yay for not being USA resident
Mar 05 01:35:26 <Chaang-Noi>	the sec is not realisticly going to fly to china or thailand or hack my wallet...
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Mar 05 01:35:47 <BitHub>	you know they got cia agents there?
Mar 05 01:35:49 <Chaang-Noi>	sec might take down a glbse like exchange that asicminer is not involved with...
Mar 05 01:36:04 <Chaang-Noi>	cia right now is not after btc... mostly drugs
Mar 05 01:36:12 <[\\\]>	oh yeah?
Mar 05 01:36:17 <[\\\]>	you're an expert on the cia now?
Mar 05 01:36:19 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Mar 05 01:36:33 <BitHub>	i was in a country similar to thailand
Mar 05 01:36:38 <BitHub>	hotel blew up
Mar 05 01:36:40 <Chaang-Noi>	the agents here in thailand that i know are mostly involved in the drug trafficing stuff in the north
Mar 05 01:36:42 <ThickAsThieves>	cia, sec no one knows shit about what will happen in those regards
Mar 05 01:36:49 <ThickAsThieves>	btc is not a US thing
Mar 05 01:36:50 <BitHub>	some cia agents came and got the bodies
Mar 05 01:36:55 <BitHub>	the mayor was pissed
Mar 05 01:37:01 <Chaang-Noi>	the sec cant do shit in thail;and or china.. thinking they can is silly
Mar 05 01:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149130.0;all
Mar 05 01:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	jesus the retard parade
Mar 05 01:37:48 <[\\\]>	lol
Mar 05 01:37:53 <[\\\]>	its not even a new concept
Mar 05 01:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	it's not even a concept really.
Mar 05 01:38:10 <[\\\]>	(jesus, retards, parades)
Mar 05 01:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Mar 05 01:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 01:38:44 <[\\\]>	;;seen usagi
Mar 05 01:38:44 <gribble>	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 39 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <usagi> You won't hold the bitcoins, they will. They'll just tell you how many bitcoins you "own".
Mar 05 01:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	that came out nice
Mar 05 01:38:47 <ThickAsThieves>	no diff than the otc wot, no?
Mar 05 01:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1583670#msg1583670
Mar 05 01:39:21 <ThickAsThieves>	gain trust, spend it on an adequate payout
Mar 05 01:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	help me -assets. is he saying that like it's a bad thing ?
Mar 05 01:40:05 <ThickAsThieves>	he's saying they're after you
Mar 05 01:40:08 <[\\\]>	I can't be bothered to figure it out
Mar 05 01:40:17 <ThickAsThieves>	and will get you as soon as they can find you
Mar 05 01:40:17 <[\\\]>	its not like what he meant changes anything
Mar 05 01:40:39 <[\\\]>	I don't bother reading that particular forum much anymore
Mar 05 01:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] i get the selected bits.
Mar 05 01:41:08 <[\\\]>	I'm not sexing someone to watch it for me ;)
Mar 05 01:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 01:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	help me -assets. is he saying that like it's a bad thing ?
Mar 05 01:42:07 <[\\\]>	lol ThickAsThieves
Mar 05 01:42:13 <[\\\]>	50 btc
Mar 05 01:42:16 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 05 01:42:50 <[\\\]>	its like that 100 btc roulette from back in the day
Mar 05 01:42:56 <[\\\]>	everyone passed around 100 btc as if it meant something
Mar 05 01:43:12 <[\\\]>	then again, it was only worth about $200 at the time
Mar 05 01:43:50 <ThickAsThieves>	I wonder if I got the Op's heart racing
Mar 05 01:44:09 <[\\\]>	probably not his heart..
Mar 05 01:44:13 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 05 01:44:32 <[\\\]>	;;ticker
Mar 05 01:44:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.87000, Best ask: 37.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 37.99000, 24 hour volume: 53627.32358050, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 37.99000, 24 hour vwap: 35.91832
Mar 05 01:44:35 <[\\\]>	oh nice
Mar 05 01:44:39 <mircea_popescu>	terry gilliam renounced his u.s. citizenship
Mar 05 01:44:43 <[\\\]>	almost $38
Mar 05 01:44:47 <[\\\]>	wtf is terry gilliam
Mar 05 01:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	pretty soon there's not going to be any us citizens left.
Mar 05 01:45:08 <Chaang-Noi>	no wall until 40, and that is only 2k btc
Mar 05 01:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] possibly the only american filmmaker worth the notice ?
Mar 05 01:45:26 <[\\\]>	he renounced his citizenship in 2006
Mar 05 01:45:31 <[\\\]>	way to be 6 years late
Mar 05 01:45:38 <[\\\]>	are you reading your news on the wayback machine?
Mar 05 01:45:50 <ThickAsThieves>	where would be a good place for an american to leave for?
Mar 05 01:45:58 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] twitter.
Mar 05 01:46:03 <[\\\]>	ThickAsThieves: I heard North Korea is nice this time of year.
Mar 05 01:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves romania.
Mar 05 01:46:22 <[\\\]>	TPB is going to base themselves out of NK
Mar 05 01:46:25 <ThickAsThieves>	they like americans?
Mar 05 01:46:34 <[\\\]>	If you play basketball
Mar 05 01:46:36 <ThickAsThieves>	i havent been out of the country in a while
Mar 05 01:46:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i imagine everyone hates us
Mar 05 01:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves not particularly.
Mar 05 01:46:52 <[\\\]>	ThickAsThieves: got any kids?
Mar 05 01:46:56 <ThickAsThieves>	not yet
Mar 05 01:46:58 <ThickAsThieves>	soon
Mar 05 01:47:02 <[\\\]>	you'd be pretty popular in italy soon ;)
Mar 05 01:47:16 <[\\\]>	well, not you
Mar 05 01:47:18 <[\\\]>	but the kids
Mar 05 01:47:24 <[\\\]>	serving the church
Mar 05 01:47:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol wut?
Mar 05 01:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 05 01:47:30 <ThickAsThieves>	we have catholic chuches here too
Mar 05 01:47:44 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Mar05 06:46:59 mtgox      x8    47.4170 @    38.08999282 USD
Mar 05 01:47:58 <[\\\]>	;;market asks 40
Mar 05 01:48:03 <gribble>	There are currently 6343.2892 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 250361.11051 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
Mar 05 01:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which, have they got a new pope yet ?
Mar 05 01:48:10 <[\\\]>	haven't started yet
Mar 05 01:48:15 <[\\\]>	not before next week
Mar 05 01:48:24 <[\\\]>	but most likely before the end of the month
Mar 05 01:48:31 <BitHub>	is there a bitcoin bet for it?
Mar 05 01:48:32 <[\\\]>	they want a new one for the sunday before easter sunday
Mar 05 01:49:43 <[\\\]>	https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/429649_560954803925535_1871233442_n.jpg
Mar 05 01:50:48 <[\\\]>	;;ticker
Mar 05 01:50:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.00000, Best ask: 39.01100, Bid-ask spread: 0.01100, Last trade: 39.00000, 24 hour volume: 55901.80471473, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 39.00000, 24 hour vwap: 36.01882
Mar 05 01:50:50 <[\\\]>	woo
Mar 05 01:50:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i wanta  new pope:)
Mar 05 01:50:52 <[\\\]>	39
Mar 05 01:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno that there's a bet for it
Mar 05 01:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	howly. shit
Mar 05 01:51:09 <Chaang-Noi>	yeas holy shit
Mar 05 01:51:24 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck me running
Mar 05 01:51:25 <BitHub>	there needs to be
Mar 05 01:51:27 <BitHub>	for teh lulz
Mar 05 01:51:34 <[\\\]>	Chaang-Noi: no wonder you want a new pope
Mar 05 01:51:39 <[\\\]>	I didn't realize you were kinky like that
Mar 05 01:51:43 <[\\\]>	I'm sure they're into that.
Mar 05 01:52:48 <Chaang-Noi>	im open minded
Mar 05 01:52:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 50
Mar 05 01:52:57 <gribble>	There are currently 16268.94 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 722719.888071 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.5782 seconds
Mar 05 01:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	open kneed matters mroe than open minded
Mar 05 01:53:19 <pizzaman1337>	;;asks 40
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Mar 05 01:53:20 <gribble>	There are currently 4749.7778 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 188971.229954 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.8562 seconds
Mar 05 01:54:30 <Bowjob>	exciting times
Mar 05 01:54:31 <Bowjob>	Jesus
Mar 05 01:54:48 <[\\\]>	<Chaang-Noi> fuck me running << that sounds a bit more than open minded
Mar 05 01:55:11 <Chaang-Noi>	not in thailand...
Mar 05 01:55:59 <Chaang-Noi>	you should see some of the shows for tourists
Mar 05 01:56:17 <BitHub>	mmm thai girls
Mar 05 01:56:27 <BitHub>	getting harder to pick them these days
Mar 05 01:56:38 <[\\\]>	BitHub: are you sure its a girl?
Mar 05 01:56:47 <BitHub>	haha
Mar 05 01:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi they fuck running ?
Mar 05 01:57:03 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: they have to.. cia and all
Mar 05 01:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 01:57:45 <Chaang-Noi>	mp they will do what every you want them to do
Mar 05 01:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	"Vatican dismisses reports linking pope's resignation to gay conclave discovery"
Mar 05 01:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi that's not remarkable is it ?
Mar 05 01:58:20 <[\\\]>	of course they did
Mar 05 01:58:40 <Chaang-Noi>	thai girls are submissive by nature
Mar 05 01:59:02 <Chaang-Noi>	the feminist bs did not happen here yet...
Mar 05 01:59:35 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 05 01:59:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.99000, Best ask: 39.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 38.99000, 24 hour volume: 59388.87350464, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 39.20000, 24 hour vwap: 36.19533
Mar 05 01:59:42 <Bowjob>	Eh, $39.
Mar 05 01:59:45 <Bowjob>	Its cheap
Mar 05 01:59:52 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 01:59:53 <gribble>	0.833684 seconds
Mar 05 02:01:08 <[\\\]>	meanwhile the rates on bitfinex usd keep going up
Mar 05 02:01:23 <[\\\]>	are there bets on how long bitfinex goes before a default?
Mar 05 02:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	"Canon law states that a resignation must be made freely and properly manifested and that the pope resigning must be of sound mind."
Mar 05 02:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	kickass. insane pope may not resign.
Mar 05 02:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] not afaik
Mar 05 02:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	may be a good bet to hedge
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Mar 05 02:06:21 <[\\\]>	insane pope would probably find the wrong side of a pillow
Mar 05 02:06:48 <[\\\]>	according to Luke-Jr, there is no pope
Mar 05 02:06:56 <[\\\]>	there has been no pope for quite some time
Mar 05 02:07:54 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: lol, interesting observation
Mar 05 02:10:15 <[\\\]>	g'night folks
Mar 05 02:10:36 <Chaang-Noi>	night
Mar 05 02:10:52 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah that is the first thing i saw too, crazy pope cant quit...
Mar 05 02:11:05 <Chaang-Noi>	but then again, i guess a pope cant really be crazy or if so gods will?
Mar 05 02:12:16 <Luke-Jr>	it makes sense in a way, but at the same time creates practical problems
Mar 05 02:12:43 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 05 02:13:16 <Chaang-Noi>	id geuss if the pope was crazy crazy he would just be locked in his room and they would say he is sick
Mar 05 02:13:45 <Chaang-Noi>	why is 39 to 40 so much slow than 38 to 39 :(
Mar 05 02:14:11 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 05 02:14:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.90000, Best ask: 38.91000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 38.91000, 24 hour volume: 61314.60667593, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 39.50000, 24 hour vwap: 36.31836
Mar 05 02:14:15 <Bowjob>	Oh no..
Mar 05 02:14:17 <Bowjob>	We're crashing!!
Mar 05 02:16:14 <Chaang-Noi>	;bids 38
Mar 05 02:16:25 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 38
Mar 05 02:16:30 <gribble>	There are currently 1824.2403 bitcoins demanded at or over 38.0 USD, worth 70529.8432092 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0079 seconds
Mar 05 02:16:48 <Chaang-Noi>	wow that was fast depth
Mar 05 02:17:39 <Chaang-Noi>	almost 30 euro
Mar 05 02:18:35 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 37]
Mar 05 02:18:36 <gribble>	Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
Mar 05 02:18:38 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 37
Mar 05 02:18:43 <gribble>	There are currently 7610.7434 bitcoins demanded at or over 37.0 USD, worth 285610.913583 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0067 seconds
Mar 05 02:19:00 <Chaang-Noi>	almost $300,000 came in since 27...
Mar 05 02:19:20 <Chaang-Noi>	that is just crazy, i wonder once sellers run out of coins if we dont go to $100 in a week...
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Mar 05 02:23:48 <Bowjob>	umm guys. I wanna get rich as much as the next person but.. isn't this a little to fast?
Mar 05 02:24:25 <BitHub>	yeah
Mar 05 02:24:36 <BitHub>	maybe its making up for that mtgox hack
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Mar 05 02:25:31 <Bowjob>	eh..
Mar 05 02:25:32 <aiball>	no, this is people finally realizing the dollar is over.
Mar 05 02:25:37 <Bowjob>	Idk. it doesnt feel to real to me
Mar 05 02:25:42 <Bowjob>	and i hope u guys are right but..
Mar 05 02:25:47 <Bowjob>	this feels wierd
Mar 05 02:26:00 <Bowjob>	I wrote a bullshit bull chart
Mar 05 02:26:11 <aiball>	draper is a big name
Mar 05 02:26:12 <Bowjob>	i say bullshit because.. it wasn't bullish enough and i was just joking
Mar 05 02:26:14 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 05 02:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 05 02:26:54 <Bowjob>	http://i45.tinypic.com/2uz8ao3.png
Mar 05 02:26:56 <Bowjob>	this.
Mar 05 02:26:58 <Bowjob>	like really
Mar 05 02:26:58 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 05 02:27:11 <Bowjob>	I'll just sit this rocket out, hopefully I don't fall
Mar 05 02:27:24 <aiball>	its going inverted
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Mar 05 02:28:21 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 05 02:29:01 <aiball>	next up boeing accepts bitcoin
Mar 05 02:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	srsly over 39 ?!
Mar 05 02:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	40 can't hold.
Mar 05 02:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	we're 50.
Mar 05 02:29:33 <Bowjob>	yawn
Mar 05 02:29:35 <mircea_popescu>	it jumped 1.25 a tick
Mar 05 02:29:49 <Bowjob>	wake me up when bitcoins are at least 5 grand each, then I'll be interested
Mar 05 02:30:12 <Bowjob>	and a millionaire too
Mar 05 02:30:12 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 05 02:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile i'm worth over 1 bn lei, which is remarkably enough not the first time
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Mar 05 02:31:22 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 05 02:31:23 <Bowjob>	heh
Mar 05 02:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	it sounds better than it is tho. romania cut 4 zeroes in like 2004
Mar 05 02:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much every third guy was a billionaire before that.
Mar 05 02:32:50 <BitHub>	how much is that in us?
Mar 05 02:33:06 <pizzaman1337>	298846000.00
Mar 05 02:33:16 <pizzaman1337>	that's a big number
Mar 05 02:33:20 <mircea_popescu>	currently it's like 0.3 ish leis to the dollar
Mar 05 02:33:31 <BitHub>	jesus are you serious?
Mar 05 02:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	vice versa
Mar 05 02:33:39 <mircea_popescu>	sorry
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Mar 05 02:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	bout 100ish leis to the bitcoin
Mar 05 02:34:20 <BitHub>	far out
Mar 05 02:35:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 05 02:35:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.80000, Best ask: 38.81100, Bid-ask spread: 0.01100, Last trade: 38.80000, 24 hour volume: 62576.26296810, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 39.50000, 24 hour vwap: 36.37897
Mar 05 02:35:49 <Chaang-Noi>	lei?
Mar 05 02:35:54 <Chaang-Noi>	romonian money?
Mar 05 02:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	yea
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Mar 05 02:36:46 <Bowjob>	k guys we are crashing
Mar 05 02:36:48 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 05 02:36:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.80000, Best ask: 38.83266, Bid-ask spread: 0.03266, Last trade: 38.81100, 24 hour volume: 62580.46590463, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 39.50000, 24 hour vwap: 36.37914
Mar 05 02:36:53 <Bowjob>	see. its not 40
Mar 05 02:36:59 <Bowjob>	see you at single digits!
Mar 05 02:37:08 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: do you do philanthropic stuff with your wealth?
Mar 05 02:37:18 <mircea_popescu>	occasionally.
Mar 05 02:37:26 <BitHub>	he goes boat rowing
Mar 05 02:37:37 <Bowjob>	his PR gave this dude 10 BTC to stick a sharpie up his ass
Mar 05 02:37:40 <BitHub>	with teh girls
Mar 05 02:37:45 <Chaang-Noi>	81 million usd is not bad
Mar 05 02:37:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 02:37:46 <Bowjob>	thats philantrophic
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Mar 05 02:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	hey, i paid for otc/gpg lessons
Mar 05 02:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	and for like, story writing
Mar 05 02:38:09 <Bowjob>	that too
Mar 05 02:38:10 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 05 02:38:20 <mircea_popescu>	and i forget. variosu things
Mar 05 02:38:29 <BitHub>	are you in a big mansion?
Mar 05 02:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	but principally helping poor tall girls through college
Mar 05 02:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Mar 05 02:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	lemme see where was it
Mar 05 02:38:57 <BitHub>	81 million
Mar 05 02:38:59 <Chaang-Noi>	<mircea_popescu> but principally helping poor tall girls through college     yeah... i know that...
Mar 05 02:39:04 <BitHub>	jesus!!!!!
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Mar 05 02:39:08 <Chaang-Noi>	lucky for me uni is cheap in thailand
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Mar 05 02:39:35 <kakobreklaaa>	so
Mar 05 02:39:38 <kakobreklaaa>	sup
Mar 05 02:39:39 <Bowjob>	but degrees from other countries are worth shit here in canada
Mar 05 02:39:57 <Bowjob>	maybe from US and UK... the rest are pretty much worthless here
Mar 05 02:40:09 <Bowjob>	we have doctors who drive cabs
Mar 05 02:40:15 <BitHub>	lul
Mar 05 02:40:17 <Chaang-Noi>	2 million btc = 81 million, you dont ahve 2 million btc do you? :)
Mar 05 02:40:50 <Chaang-Noi>	much of this wealth must be on paper and in things that if sold out to cash would crash the market
Mar 05 02:41:05 <Chaang-Noi>	still not bad and congrats
Mar 05 02:41:19 <BitHub>	yeah man that's insane :) well done.
Mar 05 02:41:28 <BitHub>	i would be happy with just 1 million
Mar 05 02:41:36 <BitHub>	but 81? god dayam
Mar 05 02:42:18 <mircea_popescu>	wha ?
Mar 05 02:42:29 <Chaang-Noi>	im well over 1 million baht :)
Mar 05 02:42:49 <BitHub>	yeah i got about a 1 million pesos as well :P
Mar 05 02:42:51 <Bowjob>	im well over 1 million cents
Mar 05 02:43:01 <Bowjob>	also in yen and pesos
Mar 05 02:43:03 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 05 02:43:12 <Chaang-Noi>	but i live in thailand lol
Mar 05 02:43:32 <BitHub>	is 1 million baht alot?
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Mar 05 02:43:54 <ThickAsThieves>	CoinLab Current Price: $38.91 24m ago
Mar 05 02:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	o hey BitHub this one's for you http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/test-de-cultura-vizuala-xii/
Mar 05 02:44:29 <BitHub>	where's teh gap?
Mar 05 02:44:45 <BitHub>	hehe she got some meat on her mate
Mar 05 02:45:08 <BitHub>	nice wide curves tho
Mar 05 02:45:12 <BitHub>	gusto
Mar 05 02:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i had some pix with m,y "mansion" but now can't motherfuckin find em
Mar 05 02:45:52 <BitHub>	oh?
Mar 05 02:46:08 <Chaang-Noi>	6000 baht is the average wage here so 1,000,000 baht is about 14 years of average work
Mar 05 02:46:24 <BitHub>	ahh okey chang
Mar 05 02:46:49 <BitHub>	what's the bitcoin market like there?
Mar 05 02:46:53 <Chaang-Noi>	so yeah its okay but no, its not bill gates rich either
Mar 05 02:46:57 <BitHub>	many people into it?
Mar 05 02:47:03 <Chaang-Noi>	there are a lot of expats who do computer work
Mar 05 02:47:07 <Chaang-Noi>	thailand is shokcingly active
Mar 05 02:47:11 <Chaang-Noi>	also russians here...
Mar 05 02:47:19 <BitHub>	tourist as well
Mar 05 02:47:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i think there are three small btc exchagnes in thailand
Mar 05 02:47:34 <BitHub>	oh nice stuff
Mar 05 02:47:40 <BitHub>	i'll be in philippines next year
Mar 05 02:47:42 <Chaang-Noi>	from time to time a fourum user will call me up and be like shit, ran out of money, will you take btc...
Mar 05 02:48:06 <Chaang-Noi>	they are mostly drunk tourists
Mar 05 02:48:32 <Bowjob>	bithub what are u doing there
Mar 05 02:48:43 <Chaang-Noi>	going to get bowjobs...
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Mar 05 02:48:48 <BitHub>	i'll tell you once i'm there
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Mar 05 02:49:12 <mircea_popescu>	aha, found it. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/mutatis-mutandis/
Mar 05 02:49:31 <BitHub>	good to know there's some bitcoin action in Thailand :)
Mar 05 02:49:41 <BitHub>	i'm in Australia myself at the moment
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Mar 05 02:50:10 <Bowjob>	i hear they decapitate tourists in the philippines. watch out
Mar 05 02:50:32 <BitHub>	ya they're do
Mar 05 02:50:36 <BitHub>	they
Mar 05 02:50:39 <BitHub>	especially in mindanao
Mar 05 02:50:51 <Chaang-Noi>	mp what did you do for the school girls? :)
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Mar 05 02:51:25 <Chaang-Noi>	btc is 40 at "rock" waht exchagne is "rock" ?
Mar 05 02:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	nothing
Mar 05 02:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	you get that shit in the mailbox over here
Mar 05 02:51:39 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Mar05 07:52:53 rock             46.9000 @    40.00       USD
Mar 05 02:51:46 <BitHub>	i think mircea makes pornos
Mar 05 02:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	therock ?
Mar 05 02:52:00 <Chaang-Noi>	is it an exchagne i dont know of?
Mar 05 02:52:19 <mircea_popescu>	i think it;s the exchange noone knows of.
Mar 05 02:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 02:52:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.92087, Best ask: 38.94809, Bid-ask spread: 0.02722, Last trade: 38.92087, 24 hour volume: 63162.27334246, 24 hour low: 34.41000, 24 hour high: 39.50000, 24 hour vwap: 36.41416
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Mar 05 02:52:52 <BitHub>	what lanuage is that on your site mircea?
Mar 05 02:53:00 <BitHub>	romanian?
Mar 05 02:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	romanian
Mar 05 02:53:09 <BitHub>	ahh k
Mar 05 02:53:21 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 39
Mar 05 02:53:26 <gribble>	There are currently 107.26203 bitcoins offered at or under 39.0 USD, worth 4182.97936833 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds
Mar 05 02:54:41 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc .147 crazy
Mar 05 02:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148832.msg1584465#msg1584465
Mar 05 02:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	the plot thinnens.
Mar 05 02:55:06 <BitHub>	is it worth getting into ltc?
Mar 05 02:55:10 <BitHub>	been thinking about it
Mar 05 02:55:14 <Chaang-Noi>	altbot> Mar05 07:52:08 btc-e         x4   2546.4950 @     0.147000   USD
Mar 05 02:57:14 <ThickAsThieves>	kako actually went there?
Mar 05 02:58:15 <Bowjob>	damn LTC
Mar 05 02:58:22 <Bowjob>	perhaps I was wrong
Mar 05 02:58:32 <Bowjob>	I should get back at LTC.. maybe
Mar 05 02:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes.
Mar 05 02:59:23 <Bowjob>	fuck me. I sold 10k LTC for like 5 cents each
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Mar 05 03:01:18 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc just went to 15.5
Mar 05 03:01:35 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Mar 05 03:01:58 <ThickAsThieves>	fuck ME. I didn't sell my LTC
Mar 05 03:02:01 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 05 03:02:03 <Chaang-Noi>	altbot> Mar05 07:57:02 btc-e               100.0000 @     0.155000   USD
Mar 05 03:04:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 03:04:19 <Bowjob>	aight, i'll ride the LTC train again. choochoo
Mar 05 03:10:30 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah ltc was way undervalued, but i did not think it would pop until btc started to go down
Mar 05 03:11:25 <ThickAsThieves>	https://www.ozcoin.net/content/user-top-20
Mar 05 03:12:23 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves the problem with that stuff is that if i want to i can bunch up some gpu miners
Mar 05 03:12:45 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Mar 05 03:12:51 <ThickAsThieves>	and name them bitfountain
Mar 05 03:14:32 <Bowjob>	Choochoo
Mar 05 03:14:41 <Chaang-Noi>	bitfountian is asicminer?
Mar 05 03:14:49 <Chaang-Noi>	or avalon?
Mar 05 03:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	asicminer
Mar 05 03:14:56 <Bowjob>	asicminer
Mar 05 03:15:09 <Bowjob>	gah my Avalon 2 looks outdated
Mar 05 03:15:10 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 05 03:15:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i assume that first annon must be asicminer as well
Mar 05 03:15:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet these are racks that are ready to go and fully done
Mar 05 03:15:51 <Chaang-Noi>	the big anon is just testing...
Mar 05 03:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	tgheory is the anon guy is primeasic
Mar 05 03:16:35 <Chaang-Noi>	still only 3.5 TH hmmm
Mar 05 03:17:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00073421 = 0.5139 BTC [+]
Mar 05 03:19:15 <Chaang-Noi>	trollcointalk.org down for you guys?
Mar 05 03:20:31 <Chaang-Noi>	did not asicminer mine on some other pool than oz??
Mar 05 03:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	btcguild
Mar 05 03:22:39 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm ill see waht they ahve there
Mar 05 03:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0051 = 2.04 BTC [-]
Mar 05 03:23:10 <Chaang-Noi>	oh shit they ahve 3.8 there too
Mar 05 03:23:26 <Chaang-Noi>	so maybe 7.2 th/s nice
Mar 05 03:27:44 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 39
Mar 05 03:27:49 <gribble>	There are currently 511.39728 bitcoins offered at or under 39.0 USD, worth 19944.4939902 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 05 03:29:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34499 = 0.69 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 03:45:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.65 = 2.6 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 03:48:08 <jurov>	it's past 9am CET... and primeasic number still unavailable
Mar 05 03:48:14 <jurov>	bitbet time
Mar 05 03:48:47 <jurov>	owww, 5 to 1 already
Mar 05 03:49:08 <Bowjob>	bitcoin wont let me sleep
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Mar 05 03:59:34 <Chaang-Noi>	40?
Mar 05 03:59:36 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 05 03:59:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.75500, Best ask: 39.91992, Bid-ask spread: 0.16492, Last trade: 39.72207, 24 hour volume: 64417.80796908, 24 hour low: 34.70000, 24 hour high: 39.92002, 24 hour vwap: 36.71227
Mar 05 03:59:51 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck.. what do we even do after 40.. there are no coins for sale...
Mar 05 04:00:15 <Bowjob>	$1000 each
Mar 05 04:00:17 <Bowjob>	here we go
Mar 05 04:00:21 <BitHub>	would anyone be intrested in renting some land in australia for btc? or something
Mar 05 04:00:28 <BitHub>	just trying to work this out
Mar 05 04:02:10 <Atruk>	;;asks 50
Mar 05 04:02:10 <gribble>	There are currently 16401.106 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 737152.101207 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.5468 seconds
Mar 05 04:02:34 <Atruk>	;;asks 1000
Mar 05 04:02:34 <gribble>	There are currently 56208 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 6405651.58308 USD in total. | Data vintage: 101.3502 seconds
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Mar 05 04:12:39 <dub>	;;bids 1
Mar 05 04:12:40 <gribble>	There are currently 311805.4 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 4196229.42728 USD in total. | Data vintage: 42.9318 seconds
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Mar 05 04:13:08 <dub>	sup
Mar 05 04:13:16 <dub>	g0t asic?
Mar 05 04:13:23 <kakobreklaaa>	scam
Mar 05 04:13:33 <dub>	say it aint so
Mar 05 04:14:57 <kakobreklaaa>	hmmm
Mar 05 04:15:06 <kakobreklaaa>	the number is ringing now tho
Mar 05 04:15:18 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149244.0
Mar 05 04:15:20 <kakobreklaaa>	i talked to edi greens accountant
Mar 05 04:15:58 <Bowjob>	Free 5 BTC, check my topic
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Mar 05 04:20:51 <jurov>	kakobreklaaa, and? what did they say?
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Mar 05 04:21:45 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 04:21:46 <gribble>	83.707984 seconds
Mar 05 04:21:54 <dub>	fuu-
Mar 05 04:22:13 <saulimus>	:D
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Mar 05 04:22:53 <dub>	goxlive working for anyone?
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Mar 05 04:25:37 <kakobr>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Mar 05 04:25:37 <kakobr>	gribble?
Mar 05 04:25:40 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> btcguild
Mar 05 04:26:19 <dub>	;;ticker
Mar 05 04:26:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.25000, Best ask: 40.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 40.25000, 24 hour volume: 69682.43749186, 24 hour low: 34.70533, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 37.01123
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Mar 05 04:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.618 = 9.27 BTC [+]
Mar 05 04:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6189 = 1.2378 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 04:48:02 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 05 04:48:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.04002, Best ask: 39.04999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00997, Last trade: 39.04999, 24 hour volume: 74469.77125533, 24 hour low: 34.76100, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 37.24551
Mar 05 04:48:23 <Bowjob>	$40.64 high
Mar 05 04:48:26 <Bowjob>	we clearly crashed
Mar 05 04:48:33 <Bowjob>	now that its $39 dollars
Mar 05 04:48:34 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 05 04:49:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16685 @ 0.00073421 = 12.2503 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 04:54:44 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 05 04:54:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.03475, Best ask: 39.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01525, Last trade: 39.05000, 24 hour volume: 75308.05560655, 24 hour low: 34.76100, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 37.27642
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Mar 05 05:04:26 <TradeFortress>	yup, crazy
Mar 05 05:04:54 <Bowjob>	dont forget u guys can get 5 btc for 100 dollars
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Mar 05 05:05:20 <jurov>	Bowjob where?
Mar 05 05:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 420 @ 0.00577 = 2.4234 BTC [+]
Mar 05 05:05:37 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149244.0
Mar 05 05:06:14 <TradeFortress>	pretty sure that there's no more btc sent
Mar 05 05:06:40 <TradeFortress>	"
Mar 05 05:06:41 <TradeFortress>	!!! BUT !!!
Mar 05 05:06:41 <TradeFortress>	when this limit (overall 250 btc) is reached i will have to stop. SO IF YOU WANT TO DONATE ONLY IF YOU ARE GETTING BTC IN RETURN PLEASE, PLEASE wait some time until i go through all the donations made already an state how much btc i've got left to give away (if any)**"
Mar 05 05:07:39 <Bowjob>	100 btc left
Mar 05 05:09:35 <TradeFortress>	oh cool he's still onlne
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Mar 05 05:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.65 = 3.3 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 05:12:27 <TradeFortress>	Bowjob, looks like a huge queue
Mar 05 05:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 05:12:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.04000, Best ask: 39.26886, Bid-ask spread: 0.22886, Last trade: 39.26886, 24 hour volume: 76899.63793808, 24 hour low: 34.77000, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 37.33416
Mar 05 05:12:41 <Bowjob>	well the worst that can happen is you donate to a good cause
Mar 05 05:12:51 <Bowjob>	i donated to khanacademy, will write a letter
Mar 05 05:12:56 <Bowjob>	that would help btc a lot
Mar 05 05:15:03 <Bowjob>	TF
Mar 05 05:15:12 <Bowjob>	make sure you send him an unaltered PM
Mar 05 05:15:16 <Bowjob>	with your reciept
Mar 05 05:15:19 <Bowjob>	dont block anything
Mar 05 05:17:25 <TradeFortress>	Bowjob, yeah, it's not like I wasted $100 :)
Mar 05 05:18:25 <Bowjob>	http://lurkerfaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/64857965/
Mar 05 05:18:37 <Bowjob>	I tried to gave away 1 bitcoin.. but i just go snubbed
Mar 05 05:18:38 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 05 05:18:42 <Bowjob>	*got
Mar 05 05:20:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1120 @ 0.0050999 = 5.7119 BTC [-]
Mar 05 05:22:00 <TradeFortress>	someone still dumping s.dice :P
Mar 05 05:22:54 <bit14>	someone could always donate more btc to the guy so he has more to give away :)
Mar 05 05:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5065 @ 0.00073421 = 3.7188 BTC [+]
Mar 05 05:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3429 @ 0.00073821 = 2.5313 BTC [+]
Mar 05 05:24:19 <bit14>	quick count, 48 bitcointip tips in that thread, they're not all for 5 btc but most of them are, so it's close to 250 max
Mar 05 05:25:21 <Bowjob>	I got in at least
Mar 05 05:27:28 <TradeFortress>	bit14, don't forget PM
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Mar 05 05:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/primeasic-most-likely-a-scam/
Mar 05 05:27:53 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, was that a surprise?
Mar 05 05:28:20 <Bowjob>	scam eh
Mar 05 05:28:32 <Bowjob>	lookit. i wanted to go to hungary too lol
Mar 05 05:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress well, checking things out beats guessing you know
Mar 05 05:29:11 <TradeFortress>	sounded fishy from the first post
Mar 05 05:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Mar 05 05:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	so did everyone else, including asicminer, avalon, etc.
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Mar 05 05:35:39 <TradeFortress>	the most "reputable" one at that time as BFL, hehe
Mar 05 05:36:10 <Bowjob>	so TF, got your btc?
Mar 05 05:36:16 <BitHub>	so its a scam?
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Mar 05 05:37:07 <TradeFortress>	Bowjob, nope
Mar 05 05:37:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 110 @ 0.00599 = 0.6589 BTC [-]
Mar 05 05:37:28 <Bowjob>	it took me a couple of hours. he seems to scrutinize every detail of the reciept
Mar 05 05:38:29 <TradeFortress>	ehh, I'm more worried of him running out
Mar 05 05:38:57 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 05 05:38:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.12002, Best ask: 39.48900, Bid-ask spread: 0.36898, Last trade: 39.48900, 24 hour volume: 77600.93915183, 24 hour low: 34.77648, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 37.38694
Mar 05 05:39:04 <Bowjob>	mhm.. $39.12
Mar 05 05:39:09 <Bowjob>	we are crashing
Mar 05 05:39:12 <Bowjob>	everyone sell!!!
Mar 05 05:39:16 <Bowjob>	jokes.
Mar 05 05:39:47 <Bowjob>	http://blockchain.info/address/19RjKjBP5Z3vNrGvqXCCgBd4X5et6kvLZ5
Mar 05 05:39:54 <BitHub>	TradeFortress, do you sell?
Mar 05 05:40:01 <Bowjob>	I'm still getting my mind wrapped around the bitcoin tipbot..
Mar 05 05:40:11 <Bowjob>	its 2.40, i do not want to screw this one up.
Mar 05 05:40:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 05 05:40:27 <TradeFortress>	OMG CRASH!
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Mar 05 05:40:33 <BitHub>	nice read mircea
Mar 05 05:40:34 <BitHub>	heh
Mar 05 05:40:38 <TradeFortress>	BitHub, nope
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Mar 05 05:43:48 <TradeFortress>	;;ticker
Mar 05 05:43:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.46514, Best ask: 39.47000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00486, Last trade: 39.47000, 24 hour volume: 77502.24063668, 24 hour low: 34.77648, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 37.39439
Mar 05 05:43:52 <TradeFortress>	yeah crash
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Mar 05 05:47:47 <Bowjob>	I wonder who it is.. he's giving away 250 BTC
Mar 05 05:47:49 <Bowjob>	thats crazy
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Mar 05 05:49:26 <mjr_>	wow crazy night from what i can see
Mar 05 05:50:26 <TradeFortress>	Yeah
Mar 05 05:50:38 <TradeFortress>	It would have being better to simply match the donation in bitcoins.
Mar 05 05:51:38 <TradeFortress>	;;ticker
Mar 05 05:51:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.74614, Best ask: 39.98176, Bid-ask spread: 0.23562, Last trade: 39.98276, 24 hour volume: 77859.45465554, 24 hour low: 34.77648, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 37.41932
Mar 05 05:52:02 <TradeFortress>	Bowjob, wonder if it's kim dotcom. probably not.
Mar 05 05:52:05 <BitHub>	bitcoin marketing :)
Mar 05 05:52:13 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 05 05:52:25 <Bowjob>	could it be new ppl
Mar 05 05:52:37 <BitHub>	foundation, coinlab
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Mar 05 05:52:52 <TradeFortress>	if they're trying to get pr they'd mention it
Mar 05 05:52:52 <Bowjob>	we are the new 1%
Mar 05 05:52:53 <BitHub>	mircea's crazy pr girl
Mar 05 05:53:00 <TradeFortress>	LOL no
Mar 05 05:53:10 <BitHub>	wait a few days for a new bitcoin donations company to come out
Mar 05 05:53:45 <Bowjob>	yeao we are the 1%. less than that actually
Mar 05 05:54:02 <Bowjob>	if you own 0.1 BTC.. you'd be able to live comfortably..
Mar 05 05:54:16 <Bowjob>	owning 1 BTC will be considered a legendary wealth
Mar 05 05:54:34 <Bowjob>	just give it some time
Mar 05 05:54:54 <TradeFortress>	Bowjob, or time for btc to fizzle out
Mar 05 05:55:15 <BitHub>	yeah how about patent trolling?
Mar 05 05:55:18 <BitHub>	that's pretty neat
Mar 05 05:55:52 <Bowjob>	i bought an avalon 2.. yet i dont know how to mine
Mar 05 05:55:58 <Bowjob>	did i just shoot myself in the foot
Mar 05 05:56:22 <BitHub>	yeah
Mar 05 05:57:48 <TradeFortress>	lol no
Mar 05 05:57:58 <TradeFortress>	mining isn't hard
Mar 05 05:58:06 <TradeFortress>	if you have troubles just camp out on the irc channel for a while
Mar 05 05:58:15 <Bowjob>	i got a  whole mont h to figure this out lol
Mar 05 05:58:18 <TradeFortress>	looks like I just missed the 5 btc thru
Mar 05 05:58:22 <TradeFortress>	looking at the new posts
Mar 05 05:58:31 <Bowjob>	aw :/
Mar 05 05:59:20 <Bowjob>	"SERIOUSLY people, i love your enthusiasm and all but if i run out of coins before i get to your donation in my inbox you will NOT be getting btcs, just so we're clear. >50btc left"
Mar 05 05:59:25 <Bowjob>	its almost dried up
Mar 05 05:59:31 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 05 05:59:35 <Bowjob>	how far are you in
Mar 05 05:59:40 <mjr_>	what up bithub bowjob and tradefortress
Mar 05 05:59:48 <Bowjob>	I had to send him 3 pms
Mar 05 05:59:53 <Bowjob>	since he got swarmed
Mar 05 05:59:56 <Bowjob>	wutup
Mar 05 05:59:57 <mjr_>	S.DICE was a little underwhelming, but not too bad i must say
Mar 05 06:00:00 <BitHub>	yo
Mar 05 06:00:08 <Bowjob>	I got out of dice lol
Mar 05 06:00:15 <Bowjob>	then it went poof
Mar 05 06:00:17 <mjr_>	why? you got out before dividends?
Mar 05 06:00:18 <TradeFortress>	like a dozen posts after his last tip
Mar 05 06:00:32 <Bowjob>	yesm but look what happened after dividends
Mar 05 06:00:34 <TradeFortress>	hey mjr_
Mar 05 06:00:37 <mjr_>	thats fine
Mar 05 06:00:40 <TradeFortress>	what do you mean what happened after dividends?
Mar 05 06:00:43 <mjr_>	i am a buy and hold kinda guy
Mar 05 06:00:44 <Bowjob>	im better off selling it before the dividends when theres demand
Mar 05 06:00:45 <mjr_>	price dropped
Mar 05 06:00:52 <mjr_>	if you want to get out i suppose
Mar 05 06:00:57 <TradeFortress>	that was before the dividends went out wasn't it
Mar 05 06:01:03 <mjr_>	if i can get 2.25% every month i am happy
Mar 05 06:01:16 <Bowjob>	well, you wont be getting 2.25% at this rate
Mar 05 06:01:25 <TradeFortress>	it's being in the low 0.005s for a while
Mar 05 06:01:26 <mjr_>	i just got that on the shortest month of the yeazr
Mar 05 06:01:31 <mjr_>	time to buy
Mar 05 06:01:33 <TradeFortress>	when someone dumped a lot
Mar 05 06:01:35 <Bowjob>	.. my investment portfolio conflits with dice
Mar 05 06:01:38 <mjr_>	it wasn't someone lol
Mar 05 06:01:39 <Bowjob>	conflicts
Mar 05 06:01:51 <mjr_>	it was the owner...he released 3% more now
Mar 05 06:01:58 <Bowjob>	my assumption is that the more BTC goes up, the less the volume is
Mar 05 06:01:58 <TradeFortress>	mjr_, now 16%?
Mar 05 06:02:04 <TradeFortress>	or still talking about the earlier 3%?
Mar 05 06:02:06 <mjr_>	no only 13% total
Mar 05 06:02:14 <mjr_>	but it had been up to 75 before that
Mar 05 06:02:20 <TradeFortress>	yeah well the drop to 0.005 was sparked off with large sells
Mar 05 06:02:25 <mjr_>	ah yes true
Mar 05 06:02:31 <mjr_>	more for me to buy
Mar 05 06:02:44 <TradeFortress>	Bowjob, that's only if no more people get in btc :)
Mar 05 06:02:46 <mjr_>	i see his profits declining over time
Mar 05 06:02:52 <mjr_>	as btc gets more expensive
Mar 05 06:03:02 <mjr_>	but i think his growth will keep up, and i don't mind getting more bitcoins ever
Mar 05 06:03:10 <mjr_>	easy way to get more bitcoins every month
Mar 05 06:03:12 <TradeFortress>	mjr_, buy asicminer maybe
Mar 05 06:03:16 <mjr_>	i wish
Mar 05 06:03:19 <Bowjob>	no dude, as btc goes up.. i dont think people will gamble
Mar 05 06:03:20 <mjr_>	it is kinda expensive
Mar 05 06:03:24 <mjr_>	well
Mar 05 06:03:30 <mjr_>	if btc = 20 and i gamble 1
Mar 05 06:03:31 <Bowjob>	or if they gamble, its gonna be relative to fiat
Mar 05 06:03:39 <TradeFortress>	mjr_, what do you mean it's kinda expensive?
Mar 05 06:03:44 <mjr_>	it btc = 200 i gamble .1
Mar 05 06:03:44 <Bowjob>	no doubt dice is gonna be successful
Mar 05 06:03:49 <Bowjob>	but.. it wont be btc successful
Mar 05 06:03:57 <TradeFortress>	Do you think shares are a good deal after a split -.-
Mar 05 06:04:18 <mjr_>	like i said, i could let my money passively grow and just get appreciation
Mar 05 06:04:29 <mjr_>	or i can just put my btc in sdice and then get appreciation plus dividends
Mar 05 06:04:42 <mjr_>	jurov and them might be working on a system whereby i can lend out my shares for people to short
Mar 05 06:04:54 <mjr_>	all about revenue streams for me
Mar 05 06:05:06 <mjr_>	by the way, i think we made a really cool breakthrough on the mining front
Mar 05 06:05:21 <Bowjob>	plus this rally scared me
Mar 05 06:05:35 <Bowjob>	if bitcoins hit $60 a piece
Mar 05 06:05:36 <mjr_>	i think, and this is wildly speculative, that i may be able to beat asics...though i haven't really looked at their design
Mar 05 06:05:45 <Bowjob>	what do you think will happen to dice volume
Mar 05 06:05:48 <mjr_>	yeah
Mar 05 06:05:51 <mjr_>	it will get slower
Mar 05 06:05:53 <Bowjob>	But the problem is
Mar 05 06:05:58 <mjr_>	but as long as there is revenue, there is dividends
Mar 05 06:06:03 <Bowjob>	you paid a lot for the initial shares
Mar 05 06:06:09 <mjr_>	and as i get cheaper and cheaper shares
Mar 05 06:06:10 <Bowjob>	when btc was cheaper
Mar 05 06:06:14 <mjr_>	my avg price goes down
Mar 05 06:06:22 <mjr_>	making my returns overall higher
Mar 05 06:06:29 <Bowjob>	and march doesnt look too good right now
Mar 05 06:06:29 <mjr_>	or at least hanging steady
Mar 05 06:06:35 <Bowjob>	we dont know if mr whale will be back
Mar 05 06:06:58 <mjr_>	i mean, if i asked you, would you like 13% of S.DICE's revenues for the next year...i think it would be an obvious yes
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Mar 05 06:07:25 <Bowjob>	sure, for the right share price
Mar 05 06:07:28 <mjr_>	true
Mar 05 06:07:36 <TradeFortress>	mjr_, if you brought at 0.6
Mar 05 06:07:37 <TradeFortress>	or 0.7
Mar 05 06:07:38 <mjr_>	but i think the shares are relatively cheap for the returns
Mar 05 06:07:43 <TradeFortress>	you suffered an loss.
Mar 05 06:07:46 <mjr_>	true...
Mar 05 06:07:49 <mjr_>	on paper
Mar 05 06:08:00 <mjr_>	i bought at .57
Mar 05 06:08:03 <Bowjob>	yeah but.. fundamentally dice isnt sustainable
Mar 05 06:08:12 <mjr_>	not at its current level
Mar 05 06:08:19 <mjr_>	but i think it will continue to generate revenue
Mar 05 06:08:23 <Bowjob>	of course
Mar 05 06:08:28 <Bowjob>	but.. if btc rallies
Mar 05 06:08:29 <mjr_>	so i just want a revenue stream
Mar 05 06:08:34 <Bowjob>	then you pretty much paid for OP share
Mar 05 06:08:34 <Bowjob>	s
Mar 05 06:09:04 <Bowjob>	to make it simple, imagine you bought dice shares when BTC was 20 dollars ea
Mar 05 06:09:13 <Bowjob>	.. now BTC becomes 1000 ea
Mar 05 06:09:20 <mjr_>	thats all i mean, if i get 2.25% a month, (or more if i buy lower priced shares to drop my avg cost) i am still looking at a great year overall
Mar 05 06:09:23 <Bowjob>	yeah, the volume goes down.. and you paid too muxh
Mar 05 06:09:35 <Bowjob>	if
Mar 05 06:09:37 <Bowjob>	thats a big if
Mar 05 06:09:41 <mjr_>	i don't know
Mar 05 06:09:47 <mjr_>	feb was a short month
Mar 05 06:09:55 <mjr_>	and he took a big hit from that one guy
Mar 05 06:09:59 <mjr_>	but still profit
Mar 05 06:10:12 <Bowjob>	dude it has nothing to do witht he month
Mar 05 06:10:17 <mjr_>	also, everyone is missing the obvious thing
Mar 05 06:10:20 <mjr_>	market share
Mar 05 06:10:20 <Bowjob>	if feb was 31 days your div would be lower
Mar 05 06:10:39 <mjr_>	how...that is not possible...he did not lose money in the last 3 days did he?
Mar 05 06:10:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 185 @ 0.007 = 1.295 BTC [-]
Mar 05 06:10:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [-]
Mar 05 06:10:51 <Bowjob>	dice is down around 2k right now
Mar 05 06:10:53 <Bowjob>	freom feb
Mar 05 06:11:04 <mjr_>	are you talking about stock price or earnings
Mar 05 06:11:12 <Bowjob>	earnings
Mar 05 06:11:20 <mjr_>	are you watching the blockchain to figure that?
Mar 05 06:11:46 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/creAY0i.png
Mar 05 06:11:50 <Bowjob>	k, its worse than 2k
Mar 05 06:11:57 <TradeFortress>	yeah
Mar 05 06:11:59 <TradeFortress>	bad luck
Mar 05 06:12:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00601 BTC [-]
Mar 05 06:12:16 <Bowjob>	so.. feb being a short month was actually good for your dividend
Mar 05 06:12:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Mar 05 06:12:25 <TradeFortress>	I wonder why it's always above the 1.9% house edge
Mar 05 06:12:36 <mjr_>	i am not getting that chart
Mar 05 06:12:38 <Bowjob>	the whales kept losing
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Mar 05 06:12:47 <mjr_>	he seems to be up more than i expect
Mar 05 06:13:03 <Bowjob>	well the dice got some whale oil
Mar 05 06:13:04 <mjr_>	my point is did he LOSE money over the last 3 days
Mar 05 06:13:13 <Bowjob>	no
Mar 05 06:13:17 <Bowjob>	idk, prolly not
Mar 05 06:13:19 <mjr_>	because dividends is just money/shares
Mar 05 06:13:31 <mjr_>	so if i get 3 more days of money, i get more dividends
Mar 05 06:13:46 <mjr_>	ie every day he makes 1 btc i get a tiny share of that btc
Mar 05 06:14:04 <Bowjob>	no you'd get less if dividends were calculated +3 days
Mar 05 06:14:15 <Bowjob>	dice lost quite a bit
Mar 05 06:14:34 <mjr_>	how? he takes his total profits (you agree that his profits for 28 days < 31 days) and then divides it by shares
Mar 05 06:14:54 <mjr_>	28 days profit is smaller than 31 days profit
Mar 05 06:15:15 <Bowjob>	tell me your joking
Mar 05 06:15:19 <Bowjob>	you're
Mar 05 06:15:37 <mjr_>	am i missing something? like i said, did he lose money the last 3 days? ie. did he not make profit over the last 3 days
Mar 05 06:16:37 <Bowjob>	Dice profit was 67k BTC. 3 days later, dice profit is now 64,8k BTC
Mar 05 06:16:49 <mjr_>	ah ok
Mar 05 06:16:50 <Bowjob>	gee.. i wonder
Mar 05 06:16:55 <mjr_>	so he did lose money over the last 3 days
Mar 05 06:17:12 <mjr_>	where do you see those numbers?
Mar 05 06:17:14 <Bowjob>	it doenst matter if he lost or not end result is dice is down by 2k
Mar 05 06:17:16 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/creAY0i.png
Mar 05 06:17:23 <mjr_>	yes so profits are down
Mar 05 06:17:28 <mjr_>	in that case you are right
Mar 05 06:17:40 <mjr_>	i would have gotten a smaller share in feb, though i will just take that hit in march
Mar 05 06:18:01 <Bowjob>	the profit isnt really what you should be looking at
Mar 05 06:18:10 <Bowjob>	its the red line that you should be focused on
Mar 05 06:18:38 <TradeFortress>	mjr_, you have got to be kidding
Mar 05 06:18:48 <TradeFortress>	they are at a loss this month
Mar 05 06:19:01 <TradeFortress>	dividends, if paid out now would be 0 and the negatives would be carried next month
Mar 05 06:19:05 <Bowjob>	the month/length of time argument doesnt hold candle
Mar 05 06:19:22 <Bowjob>	i think my concern is a legitimate one
Mar 05 06:19:26 <Bowjob>	regarding dice activity
Mar 05 06:19:29 <mjr_>	yes true
Mar 05 06:19:30 <Bowjob>	its flat right now
Mar 05 06:19:50 <mjr_>	i see that now, if they were to pay out dividends for the last 3 days they would be 0 and the loss would be carried forward
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Mar 05 06:20:32 <mjr_>	but whatever, its still not a big deal, all i expect is that they will make 1.9% of the total bets over time
Mar 05 06:21:01 <mjr_>	so whatever their volume is i just want my percentage of 1.9% over the long haul
Mar 05 06:21:07 <mjr_>	i think its a nice revenue stream
Mar 05 06:21:19 <mjr_>	and what everyone forgets is market share
Mar 05 06:21:32 <mjr_>	all our projections are based on what we see now
Mar 05 06:21:50 <mjr_>	they have a user base, and could conceivably branch into other areas
Mar 05 06:21:59 <TradeFortress>	mjr_, it wouldn't be a bad idea to diversify
Mar 05 06:22:04 <mjr_>	oh of course
Mar 05 06:22:10 <mjr_>	i have my options, mpoe etc
Mar 05 06:22:17 <TradeFortress>	cool :)
Mar 05 06:22:20 <Bowjob>	you're looking at 1.9% of a small pie later on when BTC reaches to the moon
Mar 05 06:22:30 <mjr_>	and of course btc is only a part of my overall portfolio
Mar 05 06:22:34 <mjr_>	yes of course
Mar 05 06:22:42 <mjr_>	but 1.9% > 0
Mar 05 06:22:59 <mjr_>	unless of course they have 0 revenue
Mar 05 06:23:20 <mjr_>	but as long as they have any revenue, and i think they will continue to earn
Mar 05 06:23:27 <mjr_>	i will get more btc than i had
Mar 05 06:23:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00615 BTC [-]
Mar 05 06:23:52 <Bowjob>	well, that depends if they earn enough BTC to cover the cost of your share purchase
Mar 05 06:24:00 <mjr_>	oh i suppose yes
Mar 05 06:24:00 <Bowjob>	otherwise it would be better for you to simply hold
Mar 05 06:24:12 <mjr_>	dude $40.12
Mar 05 06:24:14 <mjr_>	this is nuts
Mar 05 06:24:25 <mjr_>	i had to check my computer when i woke up cuz i didn't believe it
Mar 05 06:24:27 <Bowjob>	once you get the share price back in dividends, then go nuts
Mar 05 06:24:31 <mjr_>	true
Mar 05 06:24:58 <Bowjob>	holding BTC and holding dice will conflict a lot later
Mar 05 06:25:11 <mjr_>	yes, unless dice branches out into other areas
Mar 05 06:25:11 <Bowjob>	I want BTC to go up, dice volume will go down
Mar 05 06:25:21 <TradeFortress>	mjr_, dice will not branch in other areas
Mar 05 06:25:23 <mjr_>	so they are naturally hedging each other
Mar 05 06:25:26 <Bowjob>	I want dice to go up, BTC has to go down for bigger volume
Mar 05 06:25:27 <TradeFortress>	evoorhees will most likely make a new site
Mar 05 06:25:34 <mjr_>	true
Mar 05 06:25:44 <Bowjob>	they cant co exist as a portfolio
Mar 05 06:25:49 <mjr_>	i disagree
Mar 05 06:25:50 <Bowjob>	so.. i had to pick one
Mar 05 06:26:15 <mjr_>	like i said, if they were perfectly correlated (they aren't) my value would remain the exact same
Mar 05 06:26:33 <mjr_>	like i get fewer and fewer bitcoins that are worth more and more money
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Mar 05 06:27:22 <Bowjob>	but the question is, are you better off holding BTC at this rate or just taking 1.9% slice of whatever pie dice earns
Mar 05 06:27:33 <mjr_>	like i said, if bitcoin is $10 and i get one, if they go to $100 and i get .1 i am in the same exact situation
Mar 05 06:27:59 <TradeFortress>	blindly holding shares of something just to get the dividends is probably the worst thing you can do
Mar 05 06:28:11 <mjr_>	depends
Mar 05 06:28:20 <mjr_>	on time frame i suppose
Mar 05 06:28:35 <TradeFortress>	long term? still a bad idea
Mar 05 06:28:40 <Bowjob>	mrj, lets use your logic for a second. gimme 1 million dollars, you get 1% of what i earn
Mar 05 06:28:42 <Bowjob>	hows that
Mar 05 06:28:59 <mjr_>	ok...how much do you earn?
Mar 05 06:29:08 <TradeFortress>	five chickens a year
Mar 05 06:29:11 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 05 06:29:23 <mjr_>	if the market for chickens was skyrocketing i would say yes
Mar 05 06:29:45 <mjr_>	if i hold 10 bitcoins, the market can go up, i still hold 10 bitcoins
Mar 05 06:29:54 <mjr_>	the market can go through the roof
Mar 05 06:29:59 <TradeFortress>	if you hold 10 bitcoin worth of satoshiDICE
Mar 05 06:30:00 <mjr_>	i still have only 10 bitcoins
Mar 05 06:30:08 <TradeFortress>	you no longer hold 10 bitcoins worth of asset
Mar 05 06:30:12 <TradeFortress>	(if btc goes through the roof)
Mar 05 06:30:16 <mjr_>	well
Mar 05 06:30:18 <mjr_>	maybe maybe not
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Mar 05 06:30:26 <mjr_>	first off, the stock can't go to 0
Mar 05 06:30:39 <TradeFortress>	it will if sdice goes down one dahy
Mar 05 06:30:44 <mjr_>	i think he has an automatic buy back price for shareholders
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Mar 05 06:30:45 <TradeFortress>	Erik Voorhees arrested
Mar 05 06:30:47 <mjr_>	that is very low
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Mar 05 06:31:24 <mjr_>	hmmm not sure that that would change anything with sdice
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Mar 05 06:32:30 <TradeFortress>	it would if satoshidice.com redirected to a seized page
Mar 05 06:32:42 <TradeFortress>	you'd be losing ~90% at least
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Mar 05 06:33:02 <mjr__>	weird got dc'd
Mar 05 06:33:21 <TradeFortress>	use a real irc client :P
Mar 05 06:33:59 <mjr__>	lol yeah
Mar 05 06:34:12 <mjr__>	do you guys think ASICMINER is worth it at this point?
Mar 05 06:34:20 <mjr__>	shares are pretty pricey no?
Mar 05 06:34:42 <TradeFortress>	ye
Mar 05 06:34:44 <TradeFortress>	it's worth it
Mar 05 06:34:51 <mjr__>	i am working on a cool mining rig right now
Mar 05 06:34:53 <mjr__>	fpga based
Mar 05 06:35:04 <mjr__>	but not like any fpga that i have ever seen yet
Mar 05 06:35:06 <TradeFortress>	I'm going to say around 0.02 / week in dividends AFTER the first 0.1 goes
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Mar 05 06:35:47 <mjr__>	these are big boy fpga's and i think that we are going to make them a bunch more efficient than the code i've seen online
Mar 05 06:37:32 <TradeFortress>	mjr__, name it advancedFPGAs!
Mar 05 06:37:50 <mjr__>	yeah good idea
Mar 05 06:37:53 <mjr__>	maybe i should sell shares lol
Mar 05 06:38:10 <TradeFortress>	sure
Mar 05 06:38:11 <mjr__>	anyway, we basically have an idea to try and do like "hyperthreading"
Mar 05 06:38:14 <TradeFortress>	have a n early bird offer
Mar 05 06:38:25 <TradeFortress>	you'll sell them without any documentation or proof :P
Mar 05 06:38:33 <mjr__>	nah wouldn't do that
Mar 05 06:38:40 <mjr__>	i would post a video and the code
Mar 05 06:39:10 <mjr__>	but the basic idea is like at airports when you have one plane starting to land before the one before it has touched the ground
Mar 05 06:39:19 <mjr__>	pipelining
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Mar 05 06:40:12 <mjr__>	hopefully each part of the core that is working on the algorithm can be always up
Mar 05 06:40:50 <TradeFortress>	cool
Mar 05 06:40:56 <TradeFortress>	come back when you have one mining on a pool
Mar 05 06:41:18 <mjr__>	yeah still in testing phase
Mar 05 06:41:32 <mjr__>	but could be cool
Mar 05 06:41:41 <mjr__>	has anyone used bit4x?
Mar 05 06:42:07 <TradeFortress>	nope
Mar 05 06:42:36 <TradeFortress>	mjr__, go with 1broker
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Mar 05 06:45:06 <mjr__>	looks interesting
Mar 05 06:47:13 <TradeFortress>	they actually paid out
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Mar 05 06:48:56 <mjr__>	i really like the OIX by the way, and it seems to be a pretty good indicator lol
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Mar 05 07:05:22 <blu3gr1f1on>	;;ticker
Mar 05 07:05:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.92295, Best ask: 40.19900, Bid-ask spread: 0.27605, Last trade: 40.19900, 24 hour volume: 80253.84311645, 24 hour low: 34.77648, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 37.72249
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Mar 05 07:06:35 <blu3gr1f1on>	we went to 40 overnight?
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Mar 05 07:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00564999 = 0.565 BTC [+]
Mar 05 07:24:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 07:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15971 @ 0.00073821 = 11.79 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 07:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6189 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 07:52:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 50
Mar 05 07:52:44 <gribble>	There are currently 20324.925 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 903986.766474 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0027 seconds
Mar 05 07:56:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00500001 = 5 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 07:58:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 60
Mar 05 07:59:01 <gribble>	There are currently 24539.595 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 1136730.85374 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0028 seconds
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Mar 05 08:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00500001 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Mar 05 08:10:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.000731 = 0.731 BTC [-]
Mar 05 08:10:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00073 = 0.73 BTC [-]
Mar 05 08:12:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.00985 = 0.1084 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 08:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.618899 = 3.7134 BTC [-]
Mar 05 08:21:09 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 08:21:09 <gribble>	38.542993 seconds
Mar 05 08:22:41 <pigeons>	topace_: i tried i push to havelock, interface is clear and easy
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Mar 05 08:48:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 05 08:48:51 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 224377 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1414 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 2 hours, 56 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4762212.46003 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.02811
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Mar 05 08:51:43 <jurov>	anyone noticed s.mpoe?
Mar 05 08:51:54 <jurov>	looks like mp put hefty ask wall
Mar 05 08:52:26 <jurov>	;;calc 0.00075*7650000
Mar 05 08:52:26 <gribble>	5737.5
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Mar 05 08:55:44 <ThickAsThieves>	how do you know its from MP?
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Mar 05 08:56:10 <ThickAsThieves>	someone bought a crap ton of mpoe last week
Mar 05 08:56:42 <jurov>	i said "looks like" don't know. maybe it was them
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Mar 05 09:04:52 <usagi>	Hi guys
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Mar 05 09:05:04 <BitHub>	yo
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Mar 05 09:05:38 <Bicknellski_>	Yo.
Mar 05 09:09:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.0007 = 0.7 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 09:28:26 <Namworld>	!ticker
Mar 05 09:28:26 <assbot>	Your actions are useless.
Mar 05 09:28:39 <Namworld>	Good, the bot is back
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Mar 05 09:38:54 <Bicknellski_>	!ticker
Mar 05 09:38:55 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Mar 05 09:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6189 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 09:52:46 <ThickAsThieves>	"Hey guys, I just received official confirmation from friedcat that the ozcoin users are ours.  We're really at 6 TH/s"
Mar 05 09:53:09 <Bicknellski_>	wow
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Mar 05 10:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.955 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 10:13:33 <mjr__>	new all time high on the DOW
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Mar 05 10:18:27 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Mar 05 10:20:41 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc...
Mar 05 10:20:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:21:00 <Chaang-Noi>	20 cents
Mar 05 10:21:20 <ZedsterX>	20 cents? reealy?
Mar 05 10:22:04 <ZedsterX>	wow close
Mar 05 10:23:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00579 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:23:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.00073 = 0.0073 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 10:24:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00073 = 0.0037 BTC [+]
Mar 05 10:24:34 <Chaang-Noi>	20.5 cents
Mar 05 10:24:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00565 = 0.565 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:24:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.0056 = 0.056 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:24:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 160 @ 0.0055 = 0.88 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:24:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00073 BTC [+]
Mar 05 10:25:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1288 BTC [+]
Mar 05 10:25:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.12897 BTC [+]
Mar 05 10:25:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.12899 = 12.899 BTC [+]
Mar 05 10:28:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 10:28:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08018 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:29:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08017 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:30:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0055 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:31:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00547 = 0.0109 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:32:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.0054 = 0.0378 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:33:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00667 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:33:56 <Chaang-Noi>	21 cents btc
Mar 05 10:34:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00666 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:39:18 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 05 10:39:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.00000, Best ask: 40.03485, Bid-ask spread: 0.03485, Last trade: 40.03485, 24 hour volume: 87156.08717114, 24 hour low: 35.03400, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.29189
Mar 05 10:39:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 96 @ 0.00579 = 0.5558 BTC [+]
Mar 05 10:39:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 96 @ 0.00579 = 0.5558 BTC [+]
Mar 05 10:39:48 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 05 10:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 41.20198681 / 46.0855546 (no shares, 6,242.04 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 05 10:40:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.587 = 1.174 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 10:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.586 = 3.516 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 10:43:51 <usagi>	looks like a blow-off top.
Mar 05 10:44:13 <usagi>	We broke the trending upward resistance
Mar 05 10:45:02 <thestringpuller>	shouldn't you be paying off debts before btc hits 100
Mar 05 10:45:14 <usagi>	What debts?
Mar 05 10:45:53 <thestringpuller>	apparently your shareholders havent been fully paid
Mar 05 10:46:12 <thestringpuller>	:D
Mar 05 10:46:21 <usagi>	Oh that, Yeah, as soon as imsaguy gives us the rest of the coins, and brendio transferrs us our 33,848 shares of bitvps, I'll be happy to pass them along.
Mar 05 10:46:44 <thestringpuller>	hoorah
Mar 05 10:47:02 <Chaang-Noi>	brendio is awol?
Mar 05 10:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5851 = 1.1702 BTC [-]
Mar 05 10:47:07 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 10000
Mar 05 10:47:10 <usagi>	He sent me an e-mail last week
Mar 05 10:47:12 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 384135.5818 USD and would take the last price down to 37.2500 USD, resulting in an average price of 38.4136 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Mar 05 10:47:23 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 100000
Mar 05 10:47:24 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2863474.6369 USD and would take the last price down to 16.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 28.6347 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 11.8681 seconds
Mar 05 10:47:25 <usagi>	I'm also waiting on up to 100 BTC from nefario. So is goat, right?
Mar 05 10:47:30 <Chaang-Noi>	usagi really?
Mar 05 10:47:33 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 1000000
Mar 05 10:47:33 <gribble>	A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 4128657.4952 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 4.1287 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 21.4781 seconds
Mar 05 10:47:39 <usagi>	Well I still own 100 shares of your bond or something
Mar 05 10:47:53 <usagi>	It's only worth 10 btc but I think the last you said, when nefario sends you the coins you will send them out
Mar 05 10:48:05 <Chaang-Noi>	usagi pirate bond?
Mar 05 10:48:17 <usagi>	I have no idea, lol
Mar 05 10:48:21 <usagi>	Not that, tygrr-a or something
Mar 05 10:48:25 <usagi>	I have a claim code.
Mar 05 10:48:31 <Chaang-Noi>	you dont think pirate will pay bak?
Mar 05 10:48:45 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
Mar 05 10:48:51 <Chaang-Noi>	mining bond
Mar 05 10:49:04 <Chaang-Noi>	what did nefario say?
Mar 05 10:49:08 <thestringpuller>	oh goodness the bubble at 42 will collapse significantly when a large horde goes to dump coins
Mar 05 10:49:15 <thestringpuller>	miners have mercy
Mar 05 10:49:19 <Chaang-Noi>	we hit 42?
Mar 05 10:49:20 <usagi>	!seen nefario
Mar 05 10:49:21 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 05 10:49:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.00000, Best ask: 40.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 40.00000, 24 hour volume: 87145.55081638, 24 hour low: 35.12102, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.30823
Mar 05 10:49:26 <usagi>	;;seen nefario
Mar 05 10:49:26 <gribble>	nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Mar 05 10:49:39 <usagi>	Nefario said: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Mar 05 10:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 10:49:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.00000, Best ask: 40.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 40.00000, 24 hour volume: 87145.55081638, 24 hour low: 35.12102, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.30823
Mar 05 10:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	o, not 50 yet ? okay.
Mar 05 10:50:06 <Chaang-Noi>	usagi he sold you them, talk to him, what can i do?
Mar 05 10:50:09 <thestringpuller>	50 is too high to sustain
Mar 05 10:50:24 <usagi>	Chaang-Noi: Probably nothing.
Mar 05 10:50:38 <usagi>	I asked nefario about my CSV file to see if we had shares of certain companies who denied we held their shares and I heard nothing back from him.
Mar 05 10:50:58 <usagi>	I bet he's in the channel right now under a new name
Mar 05 10:52:21 <kakobrekla>	ok its me.
Mar 05 10:52:58 <usagi>	No, you can code a website. It can't be you.
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Mar 05 10:53:52 <kakobrekla>	which loads in the same minute.
Mar 05 10:54:40 <Chaang-Noi>	usagi i know he stole shares...
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Mar 05 10:55:03 <usagi>	Well it's possible, but I don't think he stole any from me. I verified the share count by hand
Mar 05 10:55:05 <mjr__>	do you guys think the dow is correlated at all to bitcoin?
Mar 05 10:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	so visa just signed huge chase deal
Mar 05 10:55:26 <Chaang-Noi>	usagi i dont doubt you, but legally what can i do?
Mar 05 10:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	more traction than all bitcoin's historical cummulative.
Mar 05 10:55:43 <usagi>	I have some ideas :)
Mar 05 10:55:43 <Chaang-Noi>	if i pay you my suit is void
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Mar 05 10:56:21 <ThickAsThieves>	goog at 835
Mar 05 10:57:01 <kakobrekla>	boob at a boob
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Mar 05 10:59:50 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, can you proces deadterra's withdrawal so we can get our divs?
Mar 05 11:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	yep
Mar 05 11:00:36 <ThickAsThieves>	thank you sir
Mar 05 11:02:46 <ZedsterX>	;;bcauth
Mar 05 11:02:47 <gribble>	(bcauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
Mar 05 11:03:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1299 BTC [+]
Mar 05 11:04:06 <DeaDTerra>	my bad seems like I never submitted the withdraw
Mar 05 11:04:12 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 05 11:04:14 <DeaDTerra>	so I just did now, sorry Mp for the blame.
Mar 05 11:04:43 <DeaDTerra>	signed and encrypted it seems like I forgot to send it :P
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Mar 05 11:06:06 <Chaang-Noi>	hey d3 surprize 40$
Mar 05 11:06:09 <DeaDTerra>	ThickAsThieves, can you poke MP again and say sorry from me :P My bad (he has me on ignore)
Mar 05 11:06:19 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 05 11:06:21 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: huh?
Mar 05 11:06:27 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
Mar 05 11:06:41 <Diablo-D3>	hi
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Mar 05 11:09:08 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, deadterra is trying to talk to you i think
Mar 05 11:09:18 <ThickAsThieves>	says he's on ignore?
Mar 05 11:09:40 <ThickAsThieves>	he says sorry it was his fault he forgot to make the withdrawal
Mar 05 11:10:17 <DeaDTerra>	thanks :)
Mar 05 11:10:33 <Chaang-Noi>	mp lol are we 5?   :)
Mar 05 11:10:54 <Chaang-Noi>	dead t is a solid guy
Mar 05 11:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	he got on my ignore months ago for being the fuck out of line. then ppl intervened cause oh, he's a good guy etc, he did it again within like... a day.
Mar 05 11:11:23 <usagi>	Muh what, mircea put DT on ignore?????
Mar 05 11:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	he can be all solid he wants, but much like gigavps he got to get it in his skull that the hierarchy is on the ground not in his imagination.
Mar 05 11:11:35 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah what did he do?
Mar 05 11:11:46 <usagi>	DT puts bread on Mircea's table lol
Mar 05 11:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	iirc arguing with me about how solid & trustworthy nefario  is.
Mar 05 11:12:00 <DeaDTerra>	I simply stated my opinion in a matter, in a non aggressive non rude way.
Mar 05 11:12:11 <DeaDTerra>	I just said, you have no proof and you can't speak as if you have any.
Mar 05 11:12:27 <Chaang-Noi>	ill say there is no proof pirate is a ponzi :)
Mar 05 11:12:29 <usagi>	Yeah well guess what, mircea put me on ignore months ago too, because I told him it was unethical to host porn on the same site as his exchange
Mar 05 11:12:48 <DeaDTerra>	When arguing you have to make a difference between a opinion and a fact and I pointed out that you didn't. We have different opinions, but that's not a reason to ignore me.
Mar 05 11:12:48 <Chaang-Noi>	im shocked im not on mps ignore...
Mar 05 11:13:07 <mod6>	;;ticker
Mar 05 11:13:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.00101, Best ask: 40.07000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06899, Last trade: 40.07000, 24 hour volume: 89799.91641713, 24 hour low: 35.20000, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.39301
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Mar 05 11:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi you're too cowardly to actually make it.
Mar 05 11:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	DeaDTerra don't blow it.
Mar 05 11:16:16 <DeaDTerra>	did MP indirectly say I have balls?
Mar 05 11:16:37 <DeaDTerra>	Yay I guess :p
Mar 05 11:16:43 <Chaang-Noi>	and he said im a pussy lol
Mar 05 11:16:58 <DeaDTerra>	hahah xD
Mar 05 11:17:04 <usagi>	Mircea Popescu thinks I was a majority owner in glbse global
Mar 05 11:17:09 <Chaang-Noi>	he is still trying for my business i guess poor fail mp
Mar 05 11:17:17 <DeaDTerra>	I guess you can't have balls and not be ignored at the same time, you have to chose :P
Mar 05 11:17:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess he knew from the start i thought mp was fail so never was shocked when i rejected his fail
Mar 05 11:18:13 <DeaDTerra>	lol
Mar 05 11:18:20 <Chaang-Noi>	mp.. what a sad clown...
Mar 05 11:19:32 <mod6>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 05 11:19:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00072612 / 0.00075028 / 0.00078628 (2480324 shares, 1,860.96 BTC), 7D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075192 / 0.00078628 (3500340 shares, 2,631.98 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067771 / 0.00078628 (61872804 shares, 41,932.14 BTC)
Mar 05 11:20:11 <Chaang-Noi>	in b 4 mod6 is mp
Mar 05 11:20:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;asks 45
Mar 05 11:21:18 <DeaDTerra>	withdraw on it's way :D
Mar 05 11:21:24 <DeaDTerra>	dividends will come in about 12 confirms
Mar 05 11:21:47 <ThickAsThieves>	cool
Mar 05 11:21:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 45
Mar 05 11:21:58 <gribble>	There are currently 11532.914 bitcoins offered at or under 45.0 USD, worth 482883.431677 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0022 seconds
Mar 05 11:21:58 <DeaDTerra>	thanks mp <3
Mar 05 11:22:56 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 05 11:24:05 <usagi>	huh
Mar 05 11:24:12 <usagi>	Oh. I get it now
Mar 05 11:24:22 <usagi>	So that's what he's been on about.
Mar 05 11:24:28 <usagi>	For fuck sakes
Mar 05 11:24:51 <B0g4r7_>	What's up with bitinstant?  Anyone got the inside word?
Mar 05 11:24:57 <usagi>	The whole "milk" thing on bitbet is a poke at me.
Mar 05 11:25:13 <usagi>	A loooooong long time ago I said something like, if nefario is a scammer, then milk is a scammer
Mar 05 11:25:37 <usagi>	That must be what made him put me on ignore lol
Mar 05 11:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7_  what's the issue tho ?
Mar 05 11:25:55 <usagi>	Then he blogs about it, calling me a scammer by my real name, and now the whole bitbet thing
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Mar 05 11:26:11 <usagi>	Nice. Got milk indeed.
Mar 05 11:26:11 <JimRogers>	Why is the sendto address on my wager wrong?
Mar 05 11:26:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i do find it odd bitinstant is down...
Mar 05 11:26:25 <B0g4r7_>	That's what I'm trying to find out.  They've been down for days now.
Mar 05 11:26:46 <B0g4r7_>	"BitInstant.com is currently down due to site revisions."  "We apologize for the downtime. BitInstant will be back online after the weekend."
Mar 05 11:27:09 <B0g4r7_>	I think this calls for a bet on whether they will resurface.
Mar 05 11:27:23 <B0g4r7_>	...that someone else will write and post
Mar 05 11:27:39 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 05 11:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	B0g4r7_ i had no idea
Mar 05 11:27:53 <B0g4r7_>	ppl on btc-e are not happy.
Mar 05 11:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	JimRogers which wager is that ?
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Mar 05 11:28:06 <B0g4r7_>	not being able to get funds in.
Mar 05 11:28:22 <JimRogers>	http://bitbet.us/bet/283/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-hit-50-in-march/
Mar 05 11:28:32 <JimRogers>	05-03-13 08:30	Yes	97`003	1.00000000	16fUs	 /	13rnD
Mar 05 11:28:39 <JimRogers>	not the "Send To" address i put
Mar 05 11:28:41 <JimRogers>	but the exact amount bet
Mar 05 11:28:44 <JimRogers>	and the timing is right
Mar 05 11:28:46 <JimRogers>	so what the fuck?
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Mar 05 11:29:10 <JimRogers>	i've placed multiple bets successfully
Mar 05 11:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	JimRogers now that's a good question. do you have autocomplete or anything else on the browser side messing up your bets ?
Mar 05 11:29:16 <JimRogers>	this one seemed to have gotten fucked up
Mar 05 11:29:19 <JimRogers>	nope
Mar 05 11:29:21 <B0g4r7_>	That would suck.
Mar 05 11:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	a guy earlier had his browser autopick no whether he clicked yes or no
Mar 05 11:29:26 <JimRogers>	i have placed 9 wagers successfully
Mar 05 11:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	is the address wrong as in, not the one you intended to use or wrong as in, never seen it before ?
Mar 05 11:30:52 <JimRogers>	wrong, as in, no the "Send To" address i have used numerous times
Mar 05 11:30:57 <JimRogers>	and intended for this wager
Mar 05 11:31:02 <JimRogers>	and pasted into the box
Mar 05 11:32:43 <JimRogers>	are my coins gone?
Mar 05 11:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	likely ;/
Mar 05 11:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla's looking into it tho
Mar 05 11:35:12 <Chaang-Noi>	mp are you conected to that site in anyway other than a user?
Mar 05 11:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	"that site" ? bitbet you mean ?
Mar 05 11:35:35 <Chaang-Noi>	yup
Mar 05 11:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	Owner : Matic "kakobrekla" Kočevar and Mircea "mircea_popescu" Popescu
Mar 05 11:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	says so right on teh asset page http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET
Mar 05 11:36:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont use mpex
Mar 05 11:36:22 <Chaang-Noi>	and no longer bitbet lol
Mar 05 11:36:36 <JimRogers>	has anyone else had their bits go to a random Send To address
Mar 05 11:36:39 <JimRogers>	I demand my money back
Mar 05 11:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	JimRogers it's totally a new one.
Mar 05 11:37:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i doubt mp scammed you, fucked up mabe...
Mar 05 11:37:16 <JimRogers>	thats not the address i entered into the Send To
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Mar 05 11:39:02 <JimRogers>	write I'm done wit this fucking website scam
Mar 05 11:39:04 <JimRogers>	stealing my bitcoin
Mar 05 11:39:07 <JimRogers>	gay ass coding
Mar 05 11:39:10 <JimRogers>	unreliable
Mar 05 11:39:16 <JimRogers>	other ppl having same problem?
Mar 05 11:39:26 <kakobrekla>	you are the only one.
Mar 05 11:39:40 <B0g4r7_>	I only started using bitbet yesterday.
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Mar 05 11:39:58 <B0g4r7_>	I guess I could check the send-to address if I were in front of that wallet.
Mar 05 11:40:27 <B0g4r7_>	But I'm not.
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Mar 05 11:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	what he quit ?
Mar 05 11:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is wrong with people ;/
Mar 05 11:40:59 <B0g4r7_>	emoquit
Mar 05 11:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally! the address he paid his 1 btc to is 16fUs2yD4xLyxYy6863SMX3PP8Lw1xvZog
Mar 05 11:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	https://blockchain.info/address/16fUs2yD4xLyxYy6863SMX3PP8Lw1xvZog that's the tx
Mar 05 11:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	he paid from 1M1Ugbk2P2L3ekZPESywAyfF5aeZ3wNi5d
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Mar 05 11:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	if you look at taint analysis on that https://blockchain.info/taint/1M1Ugbk2P2L3ekZPESywAyfF5aeZ3wNi5d
Mar 05 11:42:01 <JimRogers>	huh?
Mar 05 11:42:09 <JimRogers>	should i send some coin to the address and see if i get it?
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Mar 05 11:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	the address the payout goes to (13rnDnrH8zBAkNpxXFEyphj3EFcvDKd9Ws) is there : 	18.5851316787%
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Mar 05 11:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	well, there's relation between the two addresses, it didn't pop out of randomness
Mar 05 11:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it's yours ?
Mar 05 11:43:35 <JimRogers>	i don't understand the taint analysis
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Mar 05 11:43:45 <JimRogers>	what can i do to see if those funds will end up in one of my accounts
Mar 05 11:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	it looks through the blockchain to see if two addresses are related.
Mar 05 11:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	send a 0.001 btc or w/e small dust to it see ?
Mar 05 11:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	it's somewhat improbable the two addies got 8 txs in between themselves and yet they're totally unrelated.
Mar 05 11:45:23 <JimRogers>	i don't understand the second sentence
Mar 05 11:45:28 <JimRogers>	which two addresses
Mar 05 11:45:30 <JimRogers>	13rnDnrH8zBAkNpxXFEyphj3EFcvDKd9Ws
Mar 05 11:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	the address you paid from, and the address that's listed as beneficiary
Mar 05 11:45:39 <JimRogers>	is the one the gay ass website says "send to"
Mar 05 11:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	are not strangers.
Mar 05 11:45:51 <JimRogers>	i sent it from sealswithclubs
Mar 05 11:46:06 <JimRogers>	the send to is gonna fuck me huh?
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Mar 05 11:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	so you don't control the sending address ?
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Mar 05 11:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	bah how is one ot talk with people that keep leaving.
Mar 05 11:47:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1326 BTC [+]
Mar 05 11:47:16 <kakobrekla>	he is parting and joining
Mar 05 11:47:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.13717 BTC [+]
Mar 05 11:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	so you don't control the sending address ? <<
Mar 05 11:47:18 <kakobrekla>	JimRogers: well, the only thing i can really say is you pasted an address (which you also say you did), bitbet did no further processing as in establishing the return address. what you pasted is in the db. whats in the db is on the site. but i can do one thing - add your payout destination notification at the last step if that would help to prevent any mistakes in the future.
Mar 05 11:47:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 18 @ 0.1372 = 2.4696 BTC [+]
Mar 05 11:47:24 <JimRogers>	i am not trying to leave
Mar 05 11:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	kay.
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Mar 05 11:47:53 <JimRogers>	i sent a micropayment to that address
Mar 05 11:47:59 <JimRogers>	hopefully it ends up in one of my accounts
Mar 05 11:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.59 = 3.54 BTC [+]
Mar 05 11:48:07 <JimRogers>	this fucking website is lacking serious functionality
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Mar 05 11:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	what functionality would that be ?
Mar 05 11:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	https://blockchain.info/tx/1d65ace8daa117bcd97fe7bff9672e8e5c174aba8ab7d0217694f3cf55c4afea .001337
Mar 05 11:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	does it show in your wallet ?
Mar 05 11:49:49 <B0g4r7_>	Maybe you clicked on "send to originating address" accidentally and then clicked SUBMIT.
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Mar 05 11:49:59 <kakobrekla>	nope
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Mar 05 11:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	nah cause it's not listed as the orig addy.
Mar 05 11:50:24 <B0g4r7_>	mmm
Mar 05 11:50:42 <B0g4r7_>	It would be nice if the "Send bitcoins to fund the bet" screen showed the chosen payout address.
Mar 05 11:50:50 <JimRogers>	this fucking website needs account history
Mar 05 11:50:52 <JimRogers>	or something
Mar 05 11:50:54 <JimRogers>	to track bets
Mar 05 11:51:03 <kakobrekla>	use your bitcoin addy
Mar 05 11:51:10 <JimRogers>	this website just ate my bitcoin
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Mar 05 11:51:16 <JimRogers>	i put the correct "Send To" address in
Mar 05 11:51:24 <JimRogers>	and then sent a bitcoin to the supplied addy
Mar 05 11:51:32 <JimRogers>	your website registered the bet, but put a different send to
Mar 05 11:51:38 <JimRogers>	thats functionality that sucks
Mar 05 11:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	JimRogers the problem here is this : you state what you did, but we have no way of knowing it's true or false
Mar 05 11:51:48 <JimRogers>	i get that
Mar 05 11:51:50 <kakobrekla>	17:47.17 ( kakobrekla ) JimRogers: well, the only thing i can really say is you pasted an address (which you also say you did), bitbet did no further processing as in establishing the return address. what you posted is in the db. whats in the db is on the site. but i can do one thing - add your payout destination notification at the last step if that would help to prevent any mistakes
Mar 05 11:51:50 <kakobrekla>	in the future.
Mar 05 11:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	the two addresses are related, and you just declared you don't control the originating address
Mar 05 11:52:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is very difficult to resolve because it's basically no leads
Mar 05 11:52:17 <JimRogers>	gay
Mar 05 11:52:18 <JimRogers>	gay
Mar 05 11:52:19 <JimRogers>	gay
Mar 05 11:52:25 <JimRogers>	your website put the wrong send to
Mar 05 11:52:29 <JimRogers>	why would i put that addy
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Mar 05 11:52:40 <B0g4r7_>	spaz
Mar 05 11:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol totally.
Mar 05 11:53:10 <Namworld>	How much was the bet for?
Mar 05 11:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	1
Mar 05 11:53:34 <Namworld>	Why don't people check their inputs before submitting?
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Mar 05 11:53:50 <JimRogers>	why does it keep kicking me
Mar 05 11:53:55 <JimRogers>	1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
Mar 05 11:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea.
Mar 05 11:54:00 <B0g4r7_>	It's not us, it's you.
Mar 05 11:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	most likely.
Mar 05 11:54:06 <B0g4r7_>	Says you've left the channel.
Mar 05 11:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	JimRogers : run a virus scanner ?
Mar 05 11:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	you might have a trojan or something.
Mar 05 11:54:21 <B0g4r7_>	Stop closing the window or whatever you're doing.
Mar 05 11:54:22 <JimRogers>	1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
Mar 05 11:54:28 <JimRogers>	was the bitcoin address i sent the money to
Mar 05 11:54:32 <JimRogers>	only i would have access to that
Mar 05 11:54:34 <JimRogers>	right?
Mar 05 11:54:40 <JimRogers>	so give me my coins back
Mar 05 11:54:44 <JimRogers>	or set the send to to the right addy
Mar 05 11:55:03 <B0g4r7_>	Are you sure someone doesn't have remote control of your PC?
Mar 05 11:55:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 05 11:55:31 <B0g4r7_>	idk why your client would randomly leave the channel.
Mar 05 11:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	JimRogers srsly, run a scanner.
Mar 05 11:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 149 @ 0.00528554 = 0.7875 BTC [+]
Mar 05 11:55:55 <JimRogers>	well heres a new wrinkly
Mar 05 11:56:01 <JimRogers>	it seems the addy 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
Mar 05 11:56:03 <JimRogers>	never received it
Mar 05 11:56:15 <mircea_popescu>	received what ?!
Mar 05 11:56:21 <JimRogers>	1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
Mar 05 11:56:29 <JimRogers>	was the addy bit bet supplied as the bet destination address
Mar 05 11:56:35 <JimRogers>	seals with clubs sent 1 bitcoin to 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
Mar 05 11:56:43 <JimRogers>	the block chain doesn't recognize the transfer
Mar 05 11:57:18 <B0g4r7_>	So maybe you're seeing a bet that's not yours, and yours still is not confirmed?
Mar 05 11:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	uhm
Mar 05 11:57:23 <JimRogers>	thats possible
Mar 05 11:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	well then ?!
Mar 05 11:57:35 <JimRogers>	seals claims to have sent last night
Mar 05 11:57:36 <B0g4r7_>	It took a while for my bets to confirm.
Mar 05 11:57:42 <B0g4r7_>	(sent from local wallet)
Mar 05 11:57:47 <kakobrekla>	this is just ridonculus.
Mar 05 11:57:59 <B0g4r7_>	Take it up w/ Seals.  If it's not in the blockchain, they didn't send.
Mar 05 11:58:20 <kakobrekla>	Seals with Scams
Mar 05 11:58:27 <B0g4r7_>	In the future, I advise always sending from a local wallet.
Mar 05 11:58:32 <kakobrekla>	im sorry im just sleep deprived.
Mar 05 11:59:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1851 @ 0.00528554 = 9.7835 BTC [+]
Mar 05 11:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 649 @ 0.0055 = 3.5695 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 12:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.59 = 7.67 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:00:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5817 = 2.9085 BTC [-]
Mar 05 12:00:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.5815 = 4.0705 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 12:00:56 <B0g4r7_>	Showing the payout address on the bet confirmation/funding screen would be nice to have.
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Mar 05 12:01:08 <B0g4r7_>	Would help avoid mistakes.
Mar 05 12:01:10 <kakobrekla>	ill add that.
Mar 05 12:01:13 <B0g4r7_>	thx.
Mar 05 12:01:18 <kakobrekla>	not that many mistakes were made
Mar 05 12:01:24 <kakobrekla>	maybe in total 1?
Mar 05 12:01:47 <JimRogers>	i didn't make a mistake
Mar 05 12:01:49 <B0g4r7_>	That's good.  If that can be reduced to 0.1, even better.
Mar 05 12:01:53 <JimRogers>	i have records of everything i have done
Mar 05 12:01:58 <JimRogers>	either your guys system fucked up
Mar 05 12:02:01 <kakobrekla>	with over 2k bets placed - yeah its preety good
Mar 05 12:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5815 = 5.2335 BTC [-]
Mar 05 12:02:07 <B0g4r7_>	Your mistake was in thinking the listed bet was yours.
Mar 05 12:02:19 <JimRogers>	or seals is claiming a cash out happened that never happened, coincidentally at the same timing and same amount as what i sent
Mar 05 12:02:58 <B0g4r7_>	1.0 BTC is not exactly a unique bet amount.
Mar 05 12:02:59 <mod6>	...
Mar 05 12:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5809 BTC [-]
Mar 05 12:03:06 <JimRogers>	good point
Mar 05 12:03:18 <kakobrekla>	JimRogers if its not in a blockchain on the correct address
Mar 05 12:03:22 *	TomServo boggles.
Mar 05 12:03:24 <kakobrekla>	what do you expect bitbet to do
Mar 05 12:03:28 <kakobrekla>	guess?
Mar 05 12:03:31 <JimRogers>	bit bet aint doing shit
Mar 05 12:03:31 <JimRogers>	i get it
Mar 05 12:03:36 <JimRogers>	i get how this bitcoin world work
Mar 05 12:03:38 <JimRogers>	works
Mar 05 12:03:40 <JimRogers>	dog eat dog
Mar 05 12:04:25 <kakobrekla>	also, if addy is not used in 24hrs is not active anymore
Mar 05 12:04:30 <kakobrekla>	i might remove that now
Mar 05 12:04:37 <kakobrekla>	since the last bitcoind upgrade
Mar 05 12:04:39 <JimRogers>	wait
Mar 05 12:04:40 <JimRogers>	wait wait
Mar 05 12:04:52 <JimRogers>	so you can confirm that 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
Mar 05 12:04:54 <JimRogers>	was a bitbet addy
Mar 05 12:05:28 <kakobrekla>	yes, requested as a bet on betid 283
Mar 05 12:05:46 <JimRogers>	right
Mar 05 12:05:48 <JimRogers>	that's me
Mar 05 12:05:54 <kakobrekla>	sure
Mar 05 12:05:54 <JimRogers>	and seals claims to have sent it to that addy
Mar 05 12:05:59 <kakobrekla>	that address is empty
Mar 05 12:06:00 <JimRogers>	i guess they lie?
Mar 05 12:06:09 <mod6>	yeah, 0 tx's for that address
Mar 05 12:06:11 <JimRogers>	2013-03-04 23:31	1 BTC	 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
Mar 05 12:06:12 <Namworld>	Nothing was ever sent to http://blockchain.info/address/1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
Mar 05 12:06:15 <JimRogers>	directly from seals backend
Mar 05 12:06:17 <JimRogers>	yea i get you
Mar 05 12:06:19 <JimRogers>	thanks for the help
Mar 05 12:06:21 <JimRogers>	i emailed seals
Mar 05 12:06:28 <JimRogers>	and if i lose the money i won't fault you guys
Mar 05 12:06:34 <JimRogers>	but the site could still use much more functionality
Mar 05 12:06:44 <JimRogers>	and perhaps binary options, instead of this weird time weighting bullshit
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Mar 05 12:07:05 <JimRogers>	keep getting kicked out
Mar 05 12:07:06 <B0g4r7_>	Srsly, consider a local wallet.  You should be using one anyway.
Mar 05 12:07:16 <JimRogers>	thats also a good suggestion
Mar 05 12:07:19 <JimRogers>	i won't do it this way again
Mar 05 12:08:15 <B0g4r7_>	Colloquy on OS X huh.  I use that at home and don't have that issue.  I run version 2.3 tho, which I think is a lot different.
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Mar 05 12:08:48 <kakobrekla>	i moved the 24hrs limit to 3 days now
Mar 05 12:09:05 <kakobrekla>	so you have 3 days to send the bet in since the time you requested an address
Mar 05 12:09:16 <kakobrekla>	once first bet is in - addy is kept active until the bet is over
Mar 05 12:09:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 82 @ 0.1372 = 11.2504 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:09:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1379 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:09:20 <kakobrekla>	so you can use the same one
Mar 05 12:09:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.13997 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:09:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.156 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:09:26 <kakobrekla>	and it will use same settings
Mar 05 12:09:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1599 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:09:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:09:31 <kakobrekla>	just weight will be different
Mar 05 12:09:33 <kakobrekla>	mkay?
Mar 05 12:09:39 <B0g4r7_>	Hm, that's handy.
Mar 05 12:09:46 <kakobrekla>	its how it works.
Mar 05 12:10:09 <B0g4r7_>	What happens if I bet .01 BTC, and then days later, after betting is closed, I send another 5 BTC?
Mar 05 12:10:27 <kakobrekla>	you made a 5 btc mistake.
Mar 05 12:10:39 <blu3gr1ffon>	you tipped kakobrekla
Mar 05 12:10:39 <B0g4r7_>	:nom nom nom:
Mar 05 12:10:58 <kakobrekla>	well you tipped mircea
Mar 05 12:11:12 <kakobrekla>	but i will scan the blockchain to findout how much he is getting and take half.
Mar 05 12:11:19 <kakobrekla>	muahaha
Mar 05 12:11:20 <jurov>	lol... at least it should be added to dividends, like mpex mispayments
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Mar 05 12:11:37 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 05 12:11:40 <kakobrekla>	prolly
Mar 05 12:11:47 <kakobrekla>	would be the smart thing to do
Mar 05 12:12:08 <B0g4r7_>	Earlier I made a whole new "bet", when I could have just sent more to the same address.
Mar 05 12:12:19 <kakobrekla>	yes
Mar 05 12:12:24 <kakobrekla>	what a waste of time and resources
Mar 05 12:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	totally
Mar 05 12:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	and his conclusion, he generously won't blame us guys
Mar 05 12:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	 but the site could still use much more functionality
Mar 05 12:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	i get it.
Mar 05 12:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	totally posting this one, too.
Mar 05 12:13:50 <jurov>	so i can add to a bet for someone else, causing confusion and else >:D
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Mar 05 12:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you cause confusion mostly for yourself, bitbet will just pay him
Mar 05 12:14:32 <JimRogers>	ok hopefully sealswithclubs can help me understand what happened to my coin
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Mar 05 12:15:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 91 @ 0.1647 = 14.9877 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:15:15 <JimRogers>	do they have an IRC room with helpful ppl ilk eyou guys?
Mar 05 12:15:30 <mircea_popescu>	JimRogers not afaik, bitbet is one of the few gay sites that do
Mar 05 12:15:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 9 @ 0.1647 = 1.4823 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 12:16:47 <B0g4r7_>	You'll have to PM Micon, or use their "contact" email.
Mar 05 12:16:52 <pigeons>	you outed bitbet
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Mar 05 12:17:53 <ZedsterX>	i didn't know bitbet was gay?
Mar 05 12:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6499 BTC [-]
Mar 05 12:18:03 <pigeons>	all the good bitcoin sites are apparently
Mar 05 12:18:13 <ZedsterX>	am i missing the pr0n?
Mar 05 12:18:20 <JimRogers>	GAY PORN HARD
Mar 05 12:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	mpex is straight as a falopian tube
Mar 05 12:18:34 <B0g4r7_>	If you look, you'll see that most of the bets are more pink than blue.  Definitely gay.
Mar 05 12:18:39 <ZedsterX>	aight
Mar 05 12:18:42 <pigeons>	lavender
Mar 05 12:19:01 <ZedsterX>	don't know how i missed it before
Mar 05 12:19:40 <ZedsterX>	;;ticker
Mar 05 12:19:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.04000, Best ask: 40.05995, Bid-ask spread: 0.01995, Last trade: 40.04000, 24 hour volume: 85295.59320849, 24 hour low: 35.99900, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.66891
Mar 05 12:19:59 <JimRogers>	the whole weighting system is retarded
Mar 05 12:20:04 <JimRogers>	if you guys did binary futures
Mar 05 12:20:07 <JimRogers>	you could buy/sell bets
Mar 05 12:20:12 <JimRogers>	but instead your dumb
Mar 05 12:20:29 <ZedsterX>	don't talk about mp's weighting
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Mar 05 12:22:35 <JimRogers>	which time zone are the time stamps on the website?
Mar 05 12:23:08 <jurov>	UTC
Mar 05 12:24:00 <jurov>	and I'm sure someone will someday start betting site with binary futures
Mar 05 12:24:20 <mod6>	if it was binary would it just be like 50`000 per side?
Mar 05 12:24:47 <JimRogers>	I'm trying to
Mar 05 12:24:48 <jurov>	kakobrekla, bit it isn't a bad ide to make the bets resellable
Mar 05 12:24:55 <JimRogers>	u fags need to pay me
Mar 05 12:25:03 <JimRogers>	give me the money back someone stole
Mar 05 12:25:22 <mod6>	stfu
Mar 05 12:25:24 <jurov>	if you submit request with payout addy signature, you can chenge it
Mar 05 12:25:51 <jurov>	thus effectively selling the bet
Mar 05 12:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?!
Mar 05 12:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ?
Mar 05 12:27:41 <jurov>	just my proposal
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Mar 05 12:28:40 <B0g4r7_>	Seems like an interesting idea.
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Mar 05 12:29:31 <mod6>	wait, isn't the weighting just a time based thing -- so if you want to "sell your bet" to a third party, it still doesn't change the time when the wager was placed.
Mar 05 12:29:43 <JimRogers>	thats why this website is fucking gay
Mar 05 12:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i don't understand it tho. explain it to me like i'm JimRogers
Mar 05 12:29:46 <JimRogers>	needs to do binary
Mar 05 12:29:48 <JimRogers>	to hace liquidity
Mar 05 12:29:52 <JimRogers>	0-100
Mar 05 12:29:58 <B0g4r7_>	idk how you'd implement it tho.
Mar 05 12:30:00 <JimRogers>	buy-sell whatever reality dictates
Mar 05 12:30:09 <mod6>	JimRogers: bowties are gay.
Mar 05 12:30:18 <JimRogers>	you can start by finding my money that was stolen
Mar 05 12:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	JimRogers are you the guy discussed in this article : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/least-likely-to-succeed-character-the-upseller/ ?
Mar 05 12:30:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00074914 = 6.3677 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:30:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00074999 = 1.125 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00074999 = 4.3874 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 604 @ 0.00075 = 0.453 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:30:53 <JimRogers>	nope not me
Mar 05 12:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 05 12:31:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:31:43 <jurov>	mircea_popescu say you made bet with 99999 weight but you want the moeny now not wait
Mar 05 12:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	well, the reasons bitbet does betting correctly, rather than what you propose, are discussed there.
Mar 05 12:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yes
Mar 05 12:31:51 <JimRogers>	not even reading all that bullshit as its too long
Mar 05 12:31:54 <JimRogers>	and written retardely
Mar 05 12:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	i see.
Mar 05 12:32:02 <mod6>	lol
Mar 05 12:32:05 <JimRogers>	I'm not proposing changing ur ways
Mar 05 12:32:06 <jurov>	so you find someone who wants it, you'll sign the request with existing payout address
Mar 05 12:32:07 <JimRogers>	im saying
Mar 05 12:32:09 <JimRogers>	ur ways are retarded
Mar 05 12:32:16 <JimRogers>	Binary Futures are thousands of years old
Mar 05 12:32:16 <jurov>	and submit it to bitbet with new payout address
Mar 05 12:32:20 <mod6>	you want him to change it, and you won't bother to read on how it works. clever.
Mar 05 12:32:25 <jurov>	so the bet will now pay to the buyer
Mar 05 12:32:27 <JimRogers>	i understand how it works
Mar 05 12:32:30 <JimRogers>	 i use the system
Mar 05 12:32:33 <JimRogers>	have multiple bets in
Mar 05 12:32:33 <mircea_popescu>	jurov hmmm
Mar 05 12:32:36 <JimRogers>	one of which is fucked up
Mar 05 12:32:41 <JimRogers>	binary options would be better
Mar 05 12:32:43 <JimRogers>	simple suggestion
Mar 05 12:32:44 <JimRogers>	eat a dick
Mar 05 12:32:45 <JimRogers>	also
Mar 05 12:32:46 <mircea_popescu>	you know this is not in any way a bad idea.
Mar 05 12:32:53 <JimRogers>	im right
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Mar 05 12:32:55 <JimRogers>	u guys are wrong
Mar 05 12:32:56 <JimRogers>	suck a duck
Mar 05 12:32:57 <JimRogers>	period
Mar 05 12:32:59 <mod6>	ban this toolbox
Mar 05 12:33:03 <ZedsterX>	plz
Mar 05 12:33:03 <JimRogers>	ok
Mar 05 12:33:13 <JimRogers>	first my money gets eaten by ur website
Mar 05 12:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	JimRogers when you're done being riught read the comments too
Mar 05 12:33:16 <JimRogers>	and you blame someone else
Mar 05 12:33:30 <JimRogers>	now u wanna ban me cuz i make as olid suggestion
Mar 05 12:33:31 <mod6>	no it doesn't
Mar 05 12:33:54 <mod6>	you had some site payout to a different betting site... all bets are off, check with the sender as NOTHING is in the blockchain
Mar 05 12:34:15 <mod6>	kakobrekla tried to help you, now kindly stfu or change the attitude.
Mar 05 12:34:43 <JimRogers>	dude i sent an email
Mar 05 12:34:45 <Namworld>	The blockchain is public and everyone can clearly see no transaction was ever sent to your bet's address.
Mar 05 12:34:46 <JimRogers>	i no longer blame you guys
Mar 05 12:34:49 <mod6>	we get signal
Mar 05 12:34:51 <JimRogers>	and then i get ban threatedn
Mar 05 12:34:53 <JimRogers>	i don't give a fuck
Mar 05 12:35:10 *	usagi is entertained
Mar 05 12:35:15 <usagi>	do it
Mar 05 12:35:16 <pigeons>	yawn
Mar 05 12:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons show him btcjam
Mar 05 12:35:39 *	blu3gr1ffon uses ignore for fun and profit
Mar 05 12:35:44 <pigeons>	no im waiting for them to use twitter bootstrap
Mar 05 12:36:12 <pigeons>	bootstrap shpould randomize defaults or something
Mar 05 12:36:27 <mircea_popescu>	no, they should just use old tripod and myspace looks as default
Mar 05 12:36:30 *	Namworld is borrowing BTC @ 0.03% daily, 194.25/500 BTC left to fill. Get 300 satoshi daily per 0.01 BTC
Mar 05 12:37:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 91 @ 0.1619 = 14.7329 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 12:41:11 <mod6>	;;ticker
Mar 05 12:41:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.08000, Best ask: 40.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 40.10000, 24 hour volume: 83684.96974197, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.73271
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Mar 05 12:45:33 <ThickAsThieves>	guys, can i um maybe get a bit more functionality out of BitBet?!
Mar 05 12:45:42 <ThickAsThieves>	like, don't change anything, but it should be better ok?
Mar 05 12:45:56 <jurov>	http://www.xkcd.com/1181/ rmunroe must be somewhere around hiding
Mar 05 12:46:41 <mod6>	sooo.. i my mind, the weighting has nothing to do with if a bet is "binary" meaning like "over/under" or "true/false" ... the weighting is just to encourage early betting.
Mar 05 12:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136246895277.jpg
Mar 05 12:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	does that halp ?
Mar 05 12:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 he's hung up on the itrade model.
Mar 05 12:47:30 <mod6>	yeah, im re-reading that blog - he seems to fall into this category
Mar 05 12:48:45 <ThickAsThieves>	working much better now, thx mp
Mar 05 12:49:30 <ThickAsThieves>	where do the bitcoins come out though?
Mar 05 12:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	wherever you put them in
Mar 05 12:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	careful tho, runny.
Mar 05 12:50:24 <ThickAsThieves>	gonna have to talk to micon about this then
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Mar 05 12:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.581 = 2.324 BTC [+]
Mar 05 12:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.5809 = 8.7135 BTC [-]
Mar 05 12:58:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
Mar 05 12:58:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.56 = 2.8 BTC [-]
Mar 05 12:58:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.555 = 3.885 BTC [-]
Mar 05 12:58:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.55 = 2.75 BTC [-]
Mar 05 12:58:45 <ZedsterX>	my god mp bring MPEX into the 21st century with some better charts and graphics...it's like looking at a 70s movie :)
Mar 05 12:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX got sierra ?
Mar 05 12:59:26 <jurov>	ZedsterX, shhh, that's opportunity ;)
Mar 05 12:59:30 <ZedsterX>	obv not if i am bitching and shouldn't be
Mar 05 12:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#11
Mar 05 12:59:48 <ZedsterX>	oh jurov sorry
Mar 05 12:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	can get a sierracharts plugin
Mar 05 13:00:33 <ZedsterX>	ya know i probably read that 4 times but the ADD just let it slip right on by
Mar 05 13:00:57 <ZedsterX>	i will checkin it out...and i was just yankin your chain
Mar 05 13:01:56 *	jurov expects dtng pic with chains in it
Mar 05 13:02:22 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is most everything is so dense
Mar 05 13:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	people just naturally skip over bits
Mar 05 13:03:29 *	ZedsterX wonders if he just called me dense?
Mar 05 13:04:21 <jurov>	lol, even if yes, that's honour :DD
Mar 05 13:04:33 <ZedsterX>	lol
Mar 05 13:04:42 <ZedsterX>	rofl
Mar 05 13:04:57 <ZedsterX>	in his mind
Mar 05 13:05:10 <ZedsterX>	juuusssst playing here
Mar 05 13:05:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 13:05:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 05 13:05:47 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4746628.77934 based on data since last change | 4836522.12241 based on data for last three days
Mar 05 13:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	informationally dense you bucnha trolls! :D
Mar 05 13:06:22 <ZedsterX>	ok now i know he called me troll
Mar 05 13:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	to quote the girl,
Mar 05 13:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	*MPOE-PR* it's almost like he's a made up caricature for an irc play
Mar 05 13:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	*MPOE-PR* (also i imagine everything he says in no pok voice)
Mar 05 13:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	<mircea_popescu> ahahaha no pok hiar!
Mar 05 13:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	*MPOE-PR* this gay ass website ate my bitcoin i tell you! no send to, no (quit) ... (enter) send to at all!
Mar 05 13:10:23 <ZedsterX>	i do remember looking at the sierra thing....i turned out to be way too incompetent to figure it out
Mar 05 13:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX jurov also made some charts
Mar 05 13:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	live.coinbr.com
Mar 05 13:10:55 <ZedsterX>	yeah i use his :)
Mar 05 13:11:27 <kakobrekla>	ZedsterX whats so hard about sierra
Mar 05 13:11:56 <ZedsterX>	but really no matter which chart i look at DICE is diving :P
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Mar 05 13:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	o is it ?
Mar 05 13:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 05 13:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005 / 0.0059661 / 0.006225 (233405 shares, 1,392.52 BTC), 7D: 0.0048 / 0.00589302 / 0.0063799 (532527 shares, 3,138.20 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00593929 / 0.007395 (6854653 shares, 40,711.83 BTC)
Mar 05 13:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	yest was rebounding
Mar 05 13:13:09 <ZedsterX>	kakobrekla: probably nothing sir i am just unsure how to use it
Mar 05 13:13:21 <kakobrekla>	which part
Mar 05 13:14:06 <ZedsterX>	i have download the file...i am assuming its command line?
Mar 05 13:14:10 <jurov>	"most everyone" prolly got trolled by that "bitcoin's moar expensive, s.dice revenue must go down" and other nonarguments
Mar 05 13:14:29 <kakobrekla>	ZedsterX, do you have sierra chart installed?
Mar 05 13:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	jurov prolly. also, some cycles are natural.
Mar 05 13:14:41 <mircea_popescu>	i'd be much more worried if it just marched up
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Mar 05 13:15:02 <kakobrekla>	ZedsterX, you can run the exe with a double click, you done need to go to cmd.
Mar 05 13:15:08 <kakobrekla>	you dont*
Mar 05 13:15:18 <ZedsterX>	one sec
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Mar 05 13:15:59 <ZedsterX>	oops i see what i did...my bad gimme a minute
Mar 05 13:18:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.65 = 3.25 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 13:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.555 = 5.55 BTC [+]
Mar 05 13:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.55 = 5.5 BTC [-]
Mar 05 13:30:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/288/bitcoin-mining-distribution/
Mar 05 13:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	that's kinda interesting
Mar 05 13:30:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/289/unknowns-come-to-dominate-bitcoin-mining/ actually that one too
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Mar 05 13:34:39 <blu3gr1ffon>	that unknowns one has problems.   simply because blockchain can't identify a pool and all of a sudden it's unknown.
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Mar 05 13:35:22 <blu3gr1ffon>	i mean, the largest  pool could change their IPs just to manipulate the bet at the last second
Mar 05 13:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	think they would ?
Mar 05 13:36:14 <mircea_popescu>	and it wouldn't be a last second thing
Mar 05 13:36:20 <mircea_popescu>	they'd have to mine with the new ip, for 4 days
Mar 05 13:36:31 <dub>	you could possibly game with ddos
Mar 05 13:36:44 <pigeons>	blockchain.info goes longer than 4 days misidentifying pools
Mar 05 13:36:53 <pigeons>	like months
Mar 05 13:37:11 <kakobrekla>	which is like decades in real time
Mar 05 13:37:20 <B0g4r7_>	game with hashpower.com
Mar 05 13:37:22 <pigeons>	its just so people will start a who is the mystery miner thread
Mar 05 13:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons im not saying it's like, gospel.
Mar 05 13:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	identifying anyting in bitcoin is an exercise in weighing tits.
Mar 05 13:38:03 <B0g4r7_>	lol @ expression
Mar 05 13:38:30 <jurov>	so, i got email from coinbr customer that wanted to buy just one call and ignored the "1 BTC initial funding required"
Mar 05 13:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 05 13:38:37 <jurov>	he's prolly coing here soon
Mar 05 13:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol jurov's awas
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Mar 05 13:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	"you can estimate the health of a system by counting how often tail appears in history"
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Mar 05 13:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnmMNdiCz_s re listeria
Mar 05 13:46:14 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 05 13:46:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.16990, Best ask: 39.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03010, Last trade: 39.16990, 24 hour volume: 80328.52310126, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.96510
Mar 05 13:46:27 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: thought you didnt have flash
Mar 05 13:46:36 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 42
Mar 05 13:46:41 <gribble>	There are currently 11784.191 bitcoins offered at or under 42.0 USD, worth 483266.145112 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0023 seconds
Mar 05 13:46:46 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 37
Mar 05 13:46:46 <gribble>	There are currently 12980.381 bitcoins demanded at or over 37.0 USD, worth 492895.066255 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.8729 seconds
Mar 05 13:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	i don't.
Mar 05 13:46:58 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 38
Mar 05 13:46:58 <gribble>	There are currently 7685.7263 bitcoins demanded at or over 38.0 USD, worth 295264.074332 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.3235 seconds
Mar 05 13:47:23 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu doesn't support flash lol
Mar 05 13:47:31 <thestringpuller>	mpex
Mar 05 13:47:40 <thestringpuller>	now with actionscript
Mar 05 13:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	i don't support apple either.
Mar 05 13:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	"mpex. only available on rooted boxes"
Mar 05 13:49:03 <thestringpuller>	mpex available only in romania
Mar 05 13:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	actually im not even sure it is availavle in romania
Mar 05 13:50:15 <thestringpuller>	mpex the facebook of stock exchanges
Mar 05 13:50:48 <jcpham>	needs moar blue
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Mar 05 13:51:35 <ThickAsThieves>	deadterra still hasnt paid sdice divs...
Mar 05 13:52:56 <thestringpuller>	he is too busy rolling in money
Mar 05 13:53:06 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 05 13:53:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005 / 0.00596607 / 0.006225 (230050 shares, 1,372.50 BTC), 7D: 0.0048 / 0.00588869 / 0.0063799 (527527 shares, 3,106.45 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00593892 / 0.007395 (6852829 shares, 40,698.42 BTC)
Mar 05 13:53:18 <thestringpuller>	haha
Mar 05 13:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300000 @ 0.00075 = 975 BTC [+]
Mar 05 13:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.555 = 4.44 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 13:55:57 <pigeons>	thats a lot of mpoe
Mar 05 13:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.55 = 4.95 BTC [-]
Mar 05 13:56:13 <mircea_popescu>	yay
Mar 05 13:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.53 = 5.3 BTC [-]
Mar 05 13:59:59 <Namworld>	Thick: As far as I know it always take DeaDTerra a few days.
Mar 05 14:00:10 <Namworld>	My passthroughs 2 weeks I think.
Mar 05 14:00:13 <topace>	pigeons: hows the arbitrage working for you?
Mar 05 14:00:14 <Namworld>	say*
Mar 05 14:00:25 <Namworld>	topace: arbitrage?
Mar 05 14:00:35 <Namworld>	Is MPEx arbitrage ready?
Mar 05 14:00:40 <Namworld>	with havelock
Mar 05 14:00:43 <topace>	mpex->havelock is available
Mar 05 14:00:43 <topace>	yes
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Mar 05 14:00:57 <pigeons>	topace: thanks for the quick service, it will work out fine as long as dice doesnt spike up before i get deposited with mpex
Mar 05 14:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.52 = 5.2 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:01:32 <pigeons>	just testing with small amounts and of course there wasnt a large amount of liquidity
Mar 05 14:01:36 <pigeons>	great feature thanks
Mar 05 14:02:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.505 = 4.545 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 14:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't even know pigeons had an account
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Mar 05 14:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	this chan delivers.
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Mar 05 14:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.505 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:05:08 <pigeons>	i have an account with everyone, even btcjam
Mar 05 14:05:31 <kakobreklaaa>	you dont with biitbet or bit4x
Mar 05 14:05:46 <pigeons>	oh yeah
Mar 05 14:05:54 <pigeons>	maybe later
Mar 05 14:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5001 = 1.0002 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 14:06:22 <kakobreklaaa>	esp for bb
Mar 05 14:06:34 <jurov>	muhahaha bratislava hackerspace thinks about providing discount accomodation to amir/genjix... if he'll do some dish washing
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Mar 05 14:06:50 <jcpham>	pigeons i'm laughing at you right now for the btcjam account
Mar 05 14:07:00 <jcpham>	no out loud though, that would be rude
Mar 05 14:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.50000001 = 6.5 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:07:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.495 = 2.97 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:07:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.49 = 2.94 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:07:18 <jcpham>	:)
Mar 05 14:07:31 <mircea_popescu>	jurov le linque ?
Mar 05 14:07:36 <Namworld>	What's up with S.DICE?
Mar 05 14:07:42 <Namworld>	Why is everyone selling?
Mar 05 14:07:47 <pigeons>	dunno
Mar 05 14:07:54 <mircea_popescu>	prolly to invest in asicminer
Mar 05 14:07:56 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: just chat in #progressbar.sk
Mar 05 14:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	and primeasic
Mar 05 14:08:01 <Namworld>	I would guess it's due to BTC's high price in USD. Maybe people want to cash that money out.
Mar 05 14:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	^ that
Mar 05 14:08:35 <Namworld>	Only thing I can see. S.DICE is still great as usual.
Mar 05 14:08:37 <pizzaman1337>	don't they know they should hold btc? :P
Mar 05 14:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.49 = 9.31 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:09:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.4874999 = 7.8 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:09:04 <jurov>	if they really include amir in some vip gallery, i'll definitely link ya :P
Mar 05 14:09:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.48 = 2.88 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:09:08 <Namworld>	They should lend the BTC to me instead
Mar 05 14:09:18 *	Namworld is borrowing BTC @ 0.03% daily, 194.25/500 BTC left to fill. Get 300 satoshi daily per 0.01 BTC
Mar 05 14:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld lol s.dice divs are about 2.5x neh ?
Mar 05 14:09:30 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 05 14:09:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
Mar 05 14:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	so basically, get 300 btc at 1, buy s.dice,
Mar 05 14:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a plan, i should be doing this
Mar 05 14:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.48 = 9.12 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:10:25 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 05 14:10:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.89000, Best ask: 39.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 39.90000, 24 hour volume: 81687.70130217, 24 hour low: 36.00012, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 39.02022
Mar 05 14:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	its interesting how the pts amplify movements. when it went to 6x on mpex it went to 7x on pt.
Mar 05 14:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	now that it retraced to 5x on mpex its at 4x on pt
Mar 05 14:10:47 <jurov>	it depends on which
Mar 05 14:10:58 <jurov>	the bitfunder one is dampened instead
Mar 05 14:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	well iiutc havelock has like 50% of the pt float
Mar 05 14:11:30 <pigeons>	less precision on the pts, since 100 = 1 on havelock at least
Mar 05 14:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	so ? they still take 8 decimals or no ?
Mar 05 14:12:09 <pigeons>	and btct doesnt goout as many satoshi
Mar 05 14:12:16 <pizzaman1337>	Namworld: what will you be doing with the borrowed btc?
Mar 05 14:12:38 <jurov>	pigeons what do you need such precision for?
Mar 05 14:12:52 <pigeons>	i'm trying to spread fud, at least let someone agree first
Mar 05 14:12:59 <Namworld>	I place bids for assets I want.
Mar 05 14:13:09 <Namworld>	I always need capital to place bids.
Mar 05 14:13:18 <Namworld>	Mostly trade BTC denominated assets
Mar 05 14:13:24 <jcpham>	Silicon Valley Bank, a company that provides financial services to emerging growth companies, will be holding deposits of bitcoin and dollars for Coinlab. However, they will not be providing insurance for these deposits.
Mar 05 14:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaah WHAT ?
Mar 05 14:14:06 <mircea_popescu>	can they do this even ?
Mar 05 14:14:09 <pigeons>	i think i'd rather trust magic the gathering online exchange
Mar 05 14:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	in yurp you legally have to insure
Mar 05 14:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	not something you can contract away
Mar 05 14:14:29 <Namworld>	Here's my public portfolio pizzaman: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGFKVlAtZVAzOGNqS1Brd05MUlFlT2c
Mar 05 14:14:32 <jcpham>	the more i read, the less i like
Mar 05 14:14:35 <Guest8179>	GSDPT dividend paid :)
Mar 05 14:14:40 <topace>	mircea_popescu: what do you mean 50% of pt float ?
Mar 05 14:14:41 <Namworld>	hurra
Mar 05 14:14:52 <topace>	we have 100% of the shares issued and trading on havelock
Mar 05 14:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.47 = 4.7 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	topace of the total s.dice shares held by all pts
Mar 05 14:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	i tink you have about half on havelock
Mar 05 14:15:16 <topace>	oh!
Mar 05 14:15:18 <topace>	yea probably
Mar 05 14:15:30 <pizzaman1337>	Namworld: pretty spreadsheet
Mar 05 14:15:32 <topace>	we're at         S.DICE x 1`125`000
Mar 05 14:15:42 <Namworld>	I love making spreadsheets
Mar 05 14:15:52 <Namworld>	It auto-updates
Mar 05 14:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham that quote belongs on the forum
Mar 05 14:16:07 <kakobreklaaa>	i make love on sheets with spreaded stuff
Mar 05 14:16:19 <Namworld>	at least the private section. I have to republish for the public spreadsheet regularly.
Mar 05 14:16:41 <Namworld>	thanks for the unneeded information, kakobrekla
Mar 05 14:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaaa do you know the aspirin joke ?
Mar 05 14:17:10 <kakobreklaaa>	dunno
Mar 05 14:17:17 <Guest8179>	GSDPT currently has 1,4 Mill shares
Mar 05 14:17:22 <mircea_popescu>	big tits girl goes to cunny doctor
Mar 05 14:17:22 <Guest8179>	lol
Mar 05 14:17:25 <Guest8179>	why I guest...
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Mar 05 14:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	"is it true that aspirin can be used as an anticonceptional ?"
Mar 05 14:17:45 <DeaDTerra>	there we go
Mar 05 14:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	"uhhh... i guess if you hold it between your knees it might"
Mar 05 14:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	"so then... what, you just sit on it ?"
Mar 05 14:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	ok so 1.125 on hl, 1.4mn on btctc, who's got bf ?
Mar 05 14:18:38 <jcpham>	sorry source
Mar 05 14:18:40 <jcpham>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/saranyakapur/2013/03/05/bitcoin-ready-to-go-mainstream-with-first-u-s-exchange/
Mar 05 14:18:55 <DeaDTerra>	I got BF
Mar 05 14:19:11 <DeaDTerra>	I have 1,4 mill spread out between BF,BTCT and private deals
Mar 05 14:19:13 <pigeons>	DeaDTerra: you'll get used to it. try spending some time in jail
Mar 05 14:19:18 <DeaDTerra>	most of the shares are on BF
Mar 05 14:19:28 <DeaDTerra>	hahah lol :P
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Mar 05 14:19:52 <Namworld>	I lost $14 getting my GSDPT pushed a few hours before the dividends... =P
Mar 05 14:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [+]
Mar 05 14:20:12 <Namworld>	Well on the plus side, I saved on getting cheap shares from Bitfunder.
Mar 05 14:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://blog.bitinstant.com/blog/2013/3/4/events-of-friday-bitinstant-back-online.html
Mar 05 14:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	seems bitinstant is back
Mar 05 14:20:36 <mod6>	(11:17) < mircea_popescu> "so then... what, you just sit on it ?" << lol
Mar 05 14:20:56 <topace>	im actually amazed at how quickly havelocks sdice passthru adjusts to match mpex
Mar 05 14:21:04 <pigeons>	congrats! success! you're funds are safe! "Overall, due to major choke points and redundancies in our system, the hacker was only able to walk away with $12,480 USD in BTC, and send them in 3 installments of 333 BTC to bitcoin addresses. "
Mar 05 14:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	topace people must be watchin'. and since you made it easy...
Mar 05 14:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?
Mar 05 14:21:21 <mircea_popescu>	haxed ?!
Mar 05 14:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	Could not connect to remote server
Mar 05 14:21:31 <mircea_popescu>	jesus.
Mar 05 14:21:42 <topace>	bitinstant got haxx0red ?
Mar 05 14:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	"Welcome to MPEx		The only Bitcoin service that has never been hacked. Established August 2011."
Mar 05 14:21:50 *	mircea_popescu smug
Mar 05 14:22:10 <topace>	mircea_popescu: havelock hasnt been hacked
Mar 05 14:22:12 <topace>	:p
Mar 05 14:22:15 <topace>	nor has canadianbitcoins
Mar 05 14:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	shh!
Mar 05 14:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	im obviously only comparing to the other ones that were hacked
Mar 05 14:22:48 <topace>	hehe
Mar 05 14:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 14:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons their site actually load for you ?
Mar 05 14:23:47 <jcpham>	http://blogs.barrons.com/emergingmarketsdaily/2013/03/05/meet-bitcoin-the-worlds-best-performing-currency/
Mar 05 14:23:50 <ZedsterX>	safer putting "yet" on the end of the sentence
Mar 05 14:23:50 <pigeons>	yes
Mar 05 14:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons times out for me
Mar 05 14:25:01 <pigeons>	http://pastebin.com/uTKTTzwk
Mar 05 14:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	ty kind sir
Mar 05 14:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	"None of your personal or transactional information has been leaked. We keep all that data offline to protect everyones privacy."
Mar 05 14:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	wait... how does that work ?!
Mar 05 14:26:42 <pigeons>	oh you were expecting honesty about a hack?
Mar 05 14:26:57 <mircea_popescu>	The attacker contacted our domain registrar at Site5 posing as me and using a very similar email address as mine, they did so by proxying through a network owned by a haulage company in the UK whom I suspect are innocent victims the same as ourselves. Armed with knowledge of my place of birth and mother's maiden name alone (both facts easy to locate on the public record) they convinced Site5 staff to add their email ad
Mar 05 14:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	dress to the account and make it the primary login (this prevented us from deleting it from the account).
Mar 05 14:27:03 <mircea_popescu>	wait so ...
Mar 05 14:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	omg wtf.
Mar 05 14:27:22 <mircea_popescu>	After changing this info and locking the attacker out, overnight he was able to revert my changes and point our website somewhere else. Site5 is denying any damages, but we suspect this was partly their fault.
Mar 05 14:27:33 <mircea_popescu>	dude, and they sat on it ?!
Mar 05 14:27:35 <mircea_popescu>	omfg.
Mar 05 14:27:57 <pigeons>	these hacks always coincide with "system maintenance"
Mar 05 14:27:59 <mircea_popescu>	a. this is why mpex model has to take over bitcoinworkd ;
Mar 05 14:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	b. fucking hell people need to learn to report. the good and the bad.
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Mar 05 14:29:41 <Lyspooner>	hello, how are everyone's assets performing?
Mar 05 14:30:04 <kakobreklaaa>	my ass is set and performing well
Mar 05 14:30:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 14:30:09 <kakobreklaaa>	in a sitting position
Mar 05 14:30:16 <kakobreklaaa>	fuck
Mar 05 14:30:20 <kakobreklaaa>	this sounds so jurovy
Mar 05 14:32:14 <topace>	bitcoin businesses just shouldnt host their sites in places like that... you need my iris scan to change anything on any of my accounts at the data center, and even if they had access t my account, they couldnt do anything with it, as the physical boxes belong to me and no settings can be changed from the datacenter admin staff without having my own system's root passwords
Mar 05 14:32:47 <kakobreklaaa>	ill just pop your eye
Mar 05 14:32:50 <kakobreklaaa>	and use a wrench.
Mar 05 14:33:02 <topace>	they say their system can detect a live eye form a dead one
Mar 05 14:33:11 <kakobreklaaa>	wrench is for psswd, not for the eye
Mar 05 14:33:26 <kakobreklaaa>	fine ill take the head and keep it warm
Mar 05 14:33:30 <topace>	haha
Mar 05 14:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.469 = 0.938 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:35:04 <kakobreklaaa>	would be one life better for you if they had worse eye decetion system
Mar 05 14:36:25 <kakobreklaaa>	detection*
Mar 05 14:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.469 = 0.938 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.4681 = 21.0645 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:40:53 <kakobreklaaa>	;;bc,stats
Mar 05 14:40:55 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 224416 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1375 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 2 hours, 32 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4771119.08352 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.23202
Mar 05 14:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00499969 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:41:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 157 @ 0.00485 = 0.7615 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 14:42:41 <Namworld>	Goodbye S.DICE price
Mar 05 14:43:27 <kakobreklaaa>	S.DICE price has left the channel.
Mar 05 14:43:34 <ThickAsThieves>	funny that a 2.5% paying asset isn't good enough now
Mar 05 14:43:35 <topace>	drop some more, i wanna buy back in
Mar 05 14:43:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 840 @ 0.0055 = 4.62 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:44:35 <Namworld>	Thick: if many want to withdraw to have BTC ready...
Mar 05 14:44:54 <Namworld>	might mean many are expecting the current BTC price to be a bubble and want to be ready to sell
Mar 05 14:45:00 <Namworld>	I know I do.
Mar 05 14:45:15 <Namworld>	You can see very low amount of asks...
Mar 05 14:45:18 <ThickAsThieves>	i think btc dropping anything notable is far off
Mar 05 14:45:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13729 @ 0.00074448 = 10.221 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:45:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4889 @ 0.00074218 = 3.6285 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:45:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5932 @ 0.00074217 = 4.4026 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:45:38 <pigeons>	way to jinx it ThickAsThieves
Mar 05 14:45:52 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Mar 05 14:46:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i just think people will be panic buying for a bit
Mar 05 14:46:30 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 05 14:46:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.51020, Best ask: 39.58506, Bid-ask spread: 0.07486, Last trade: 39.51020, 24 hour volume: 82491.79614755, 24 hour low: 36.00012, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 39.07380
Mar 05 14:46:59 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 05 14:47:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 41.20198681 / 46.0855546 (no shares, 6,242.04 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 05 14:47:11 <Namworld>	I hope we reach 100 USD/BTC
Mar 05 14:47:20 <ZedsterX>	since its virgin territory on one really knows what to do
Mar 05 14:48:23 <ZedsterX>	Namworld: when?
Mar 05 14:48:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 41
Mar 05 14:48:28 <gribble>	There are currently 7344.3475 bitcoins offered at or under 41.0 USD, worth 299081.1159 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0019 seconds
Mar 05 14:48:47 <Namworld>	in the near future as in next 2 months
Mar 05 14:48:58 <Namworld>	Price would certainly crash soon afterward
Mar 05 14:49:16 <ZedsterX>	yeah too fast...this is too fast
Mar 05 14:49:56 <Namworld>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#igWeeklyztgSza1gEMAzm1g10za2gEMAzm2g21zv
Mar 05 14:50:02 <Namworld>	I love parabolic curves
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Mar 05 14:50:17 <ZedsterX>	hehe
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Mar 05 14:52:00 <thestringpuller>	waves not parabolas...
Mar 05 14:52:15 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 100000
Mar 05 14:52:20 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2846687.2846 USD and would take the last price down to 16.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 28.4669 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0103 seconds
Mar 05 14:52:47 <thestringpuller>	there still isnt enough depth to resist manipulation
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Mar 05 14:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	i dedicate http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-events-of-failday/ to pigeons
Mar 05 14:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	who halped.
Mar 05 14:55:52 <ZedsterX>	thestringpuller: i was wondering just that last night how big a chunk it would take
Mar 05 14:55:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00667 BTC [+]
Mar 05 14:57:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00667 BTC [+]
Mar 05 14:57:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 15 @ 0.00666 = 0.0999 BTC [-]
Mar 05 14:58:01 <dub>	hehThe URL that you are attempting to access is a potential security risk. Trend Micro OfficeScan has blocked this URL in keeping with network security policy.
Mar 05 14:58:10 <dub>	URL: http://eligius.st/
Mar 05 14:58:25 <dub>	the first time trend has ever been useful
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Mar 05 14:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 15:02:55 <pigeons>	http://crypto-trade.com/  April 1 is always a great day to launch
Mar 05 15:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is the guy with the vircurex ipo right ?
Mar 05 15:04:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.00609 = 0.0548 BTC [+]
Mar 05 15:05:07 <pigeons>	this is the guy who runs the esecurity assets which supposedly run a ddos prevention service
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Mar 05 15:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	a
Mar 05 15:10:41 <Lyspooner>	but what if i want to send an order to buttplox
Mar 05 15:10:50 <ThickAsThieves>	it looks like BF & BTCT designs had a baby together
Mar 05 15:11:07 <ThickAsThieves>	(the crypto-trade design)
Mar 05 15:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner now that i dunno
Mar 05 15:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	gotta join #bitcoin-buttploxets mebbe
Mar 05 15:12:01 <jurov>	Lyspooner, we run our own buttplox : mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 05 15:12:59 <jurov>	and there are more
Mar 05 15:13:12 <jurov>	that will surface if needed
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Mar 05 15:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;google “he was holding a really big gun“
Mar 05 15:16:37 <gribble>	BFG - Television Tropes & Idioms: <http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BFG>; Down With Big Gun: <http://gawker.com/5968807/down-with-big-gun>; Stormers holding back their big guns | Southern HemisphereNews ...: <http://www.rugbyrugby.com/news/more_news/southern_hemisphere/7008471/stormers_holding_back_their_big_guns>
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Mar 05 15:19:01 <jurov>	lol, rape with BFG... quite an overkill
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Mar 05 15:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	im the overking of overmetaphors.
Mar 05 15:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	overtly.
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Mar 05 15:24:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18158 @ 0.00074708 = 13.5655 BTC [+]
Mar 05 15:24:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816842 @ 0.00075 = 612.6315 BTC [+]
Mar 05 15:29:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 23 @ 0.0052 = 0.1196 BTC [+]
Mar 05 15:30:12 <kakobreklaaa>	S.DICE price joined the channel.
Mar 05 15:31:11 <jurov>	816842 @ 0.00075 = 612.6315 wat
Mar 05 15:31:23 <Namworld>	there was another for much more earlier
Mar 05 15:31:29 <jurov>	yes
Mar 05 15:31:54 <jurov>	i don't understand what's happening here anymore
Mar 05 15:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	abandon any hope
Mar 05 15:32:14 <jurov>	or rather, i was thinking i understand and i was wriong
Mar 05 15:32:24 <B0g4r7_>	I don't know how I understand some of this stuff.
Mar 05 15:32:37 <B0g4r7_>	Sometimes if I take a step back and look at it, I'm like 'wat?'
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Mar 05 15:33:34 <B0g4r7_>	"I got mah GPUs mining LTC"  :step back:  'wat?'
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Mar 05 15:34:46 <jurov>	at least you got nice heating. that's what matters.
Mar 05 15:34:48 <dub>	s.dice moar like s.deuce
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Mar 05 15:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	well it's good news in any event, helps support the book.
Mar 05 15:36:22 <Ukto>	pigeons: that crypto-trade is by Neotrix the eSecurity assets on btct/ltc
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Mar 05 15:36:52 <Ukto>	being in HK I believe its highly illegal there too :)
Mar 05 15:37:10 <Ukto>	seeing as eCurrencies are very illegal in china/hk
Mar 05 15:39:02 <mircea_popescu>	they are ?
Mar 05 15:39:32 <Ukto>	yup
Mar 05 15:39:40 <Ukto>	there are actual laws aginst eCurrencies in china/hk
Mar 05 15:39:48 <pigeons>	yeah explicitly illegal now
Mar 05 15:39:58 <jcpham>	neat
Mar 05 15:40:07 <Ukto>	china MUST maintain control.
Mar 05 15:40:11 <pigeons>	e-mooncakes
Mar 05 15:40:16 <Ukto>	in their eyes. :)
Mar 05 15:40:20 <jcpham>	laws are always fun when they chnge
Mar 05 15:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	so wait. bitcoin is a. illegal in china ; b. on some senator's deathlist in the us ; c. sorta neutral in europe.
Mar 05 15:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	i am guessing you guise have picked a life of crime ?
Mar 05 15:41:27 <jcpham>	i like morality
Mar 05 15:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	a moral criminal
Mar 05 15:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	this sounds like a tv show.
Mar 05 15:41:52 <pigeons>	its moral until Luke-Jr says its wrong
Mar 05 15:42:02 <jcpham>	laws that are moral and laws that are cultoral have different meaning to me
Mar 05 15:42:25 <jcpham>	*cultural
Mar 05 15:42:42 <jcpham>	china's new law is cultural and has nothing to do with morality
Mar 05 15:43:16 <mircea_popescu>	and you get to pick ?
Mar 05 15:43:23 <jcpham>	apparently so
Mar 05 15:43:27 <jcpham>	or so far
Mar 05 15:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	you know i can bringa pretty good set of arguments that rape is cultural not moral in this scheme
Mar 05 15:44:01 <jcpham>	we're getting dangerous close to the idea of right vs. wrong
Mar 05 15:44:05 <kakobreklaaa>	but he likes rape
Mar 05 15:44:38 <jcpham>	rape can be either
Mar 05 15:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	i just like pestering people.
Mar 05 15:44:55 <jcpham>	that's the beauty of it, it is all arbitrary
Mar 05 15:45:06 <kakobreklaaa>	im just dicking around, since i sound like a tits but mean dick.
Mar 05 15:45:45 <jcpham>	situationally speaking the act of rape can be amoraaly wrong or culturally wrong or both
Mar 05 15:45:50 <jcpham>	not my decison
Mar 05 15:45:54 <mircea_popescu>	so you get to decide ?
Mar 05 15:46:07 <mircea_popescu>	well what the fuck am i doing here, am i beheading this rapist guy or not ?
Mar 05 15:46:12 <jcpham>	everyone else can decide as long as i'm not raped
Mar 05 15:46:29 <jcpham>	once i'm raped then i have to decide
Mar 05 15:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	wait, what ?!
Mar 05 15:47:02 <kakobreklaaa>	continiue
Mar 05 15:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	what's this, victim discrimination ?!
Mar 05 15:47:31 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 05 15:47:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.79000, Best ask: 39.99400, Bid-ask spread: 0.20400, Last trade: 39.99400, 24 hour volume: 83112.64777389, 24 hour low: 36.00012, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 39.12581
Mar 05 15:47:32 <jcpham>	i forgot what we were talking about
Mar 05 15:47:43 <asa1024>	lol
Mar 05 15:48:34 <jcpham>	the point i was making is that rape is strictly prohibited
Mar 05 15:49:35 <Ukto>	financially or physically? :P
Mar 05 15:50:40 <dub>	remember beign raped is punishable by death in places
Mar 05 15:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	some places discriminate for the victim, some for the perpetrator
Mar 05 15:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	some even inssit they marry.
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Mar 05 15:53:11 <Ukto>	and those countries usually hit the woman for cheating if married
Mar 05 15:53:52 <kakobreklaaa>	21:51.52 ( mircea_popescu ) some even inssit they marry.
Mar 05 15:53:56 <kakobreklaaa>	useful stuff
Mar 05 15:54:31 <dub>	Ukto: there was a case in dubai a while back where the wife/gf of a guy who cheated on her was jailed because she caught them having sex and three people in a room where sex is happening is a crime
Mar 05 15:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	that dumbass law btw is the reason i never went to dubai.
Mar 05 15:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck, i've not had pairsex in years
Mar 05 15:57:20 <dub>	yeah fuck that place
Mar 05 15:59:08 <dub>	the mandatory 4 years in jail for drugs thing.. when they don;t publish what drugs are illegal and frequently jail people carrying over the counter pharmacy drugs perfectly legal int eh country of origin
Mar 05 15:59:45 <dub>	oh you had a headache and bought ibuprofen with you? tough shit, see you in 4 years
Mar 05 16:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	no wonder they're the us' most stalwart ally.
Mar 05 16:02:15 <pigeons>	yes even if you are only stopping over on the plane en route to another country and never get out
Mar 05 16:03:05 <pigeons>	melatonin is the one that gets the press for leaving you in jail in dubai if you're travelling from Britain to australia and stop in dubia
Mar 05 16:03:35 <pigeons>	although if poppy seeds fall off your in-flight bagel onto your shirt you're jailed as well
Mar 05 16:03:46 <dub>	lol yeah
Mar 05 16:04:09 <pigeons>	and don't forget their magic machines that can detect undetectable amounts of cannabis under the dirt clung to your shoes
Mar 05 16:04:42 <pigeons>	allah admiral ackbar
Mar 05 16:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	the only upside is that they have two law tiers, which is nice (the us does too)
Mar 05 16:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	so you can go on a special "is not a mook" ticket and just do coke off model butt with the sheiks
Mar 05 16:07:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.548 = 1.096 BTC [+]
Mar 05 16:07:15 <pigeons>	forein women are allowed to read if they do it in private
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Mar 05 16:08:34 <dub>	sooner the jews and arabs nuke each other into oblivion the better
Mar 05 16:09:47 <Lyspooner>	i was disappointed to learn that the 1500 russians injured when the meteorite exploded above their heads were mostly treated for cuts related to broken glass
Mar 05 16:11:43 <kakobreklaaa>	broken bones would be better?
Mar 05 16:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	what did you expect ?
Mar 05 16:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	pyroglass.
Mar 05 16:11:54 <Lyspooner>	that they got hit with space rocks
Mar 05 16:11:57 <Lyspooner>	not windows
Mar 05 16:12:07 <kakobreklaaa>	or bsd
Mar 05 16:12:26 <dub>	better if they started growing tentacles
Mar 05 16:12:38 <Lyspooner>	tentacles probably take weeks to grow
Mar 05 16:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner si is one of the more common elements. when heated it makes glass. most meteorites that ain't metallic are obsydian basically.
Mar 05 16:13:11 <iz>	what's cooler, obsidian from a meteorite or obsidian from a volcano?
Mar 05 16:13:43 <pigeons>	a pound of feathers
Mar 05 16:14:06 *	gwillen read that as "Lyspooner is one of the more common elements."
Mar 05 16:14:24 <Lyspooner>	i am heavy metal
Mar 05 16:14:35 <Lyspooner>	and i stink like sulphur
Mar 05 16:14:44 <mircea_popescu>	change the water
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Mar 05 16:15:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5489 = 2.7445 BTC [+]
Mar 05 16:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.53162 = 10.6324 BTC [-]
Mar 05 16:17:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 05 16:17:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.01667, Best ask: 40.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17333, Last trade: 40.16999, 24 hour volume: 83584.00647079, 24 hour low: 36.00012, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 39.14721
Mar 05 16:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]
Mar 05 16:22:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 646 @ 0.00569 = 3.6757 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 16:27:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 05 16:27:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]
Mar 05 16:33:39 <ZedsterX>	jurov: A new motion has been posted on ASICMINER-PT i see no motion?
Mar 05 16:34:21 <jurov>	i have nothing wrt asicminer-pt
Mar 05 16:35:08 <ZedsterX>	well i stand corrected
Mar 05 16:35:18 <ZedsterX>	burnie is who i meant
Mar 05 16:35:27 <ZedsterX>	oops
Mar 05 16:35:32 <jurov>	:)
Mar 05 16:35:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00608 = 0.0912 BTC [-]
Mar 05 16:35:47 <burnside>	heh
Mar 05 16:35:53 <burnside>	hit the motions tab
Mar 05 16:36:03 <ZedsterX>	i did big guy
Mar 05 16:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX they're all mpoe-pr anyway.
Mar 05 16:36:16 <ZedsterX>	No motions yet
Mar 05 16:36:22 <burnside>	hmmm
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Mar 05 16:36:40 <burnside>	gotta be a caching thing, one sec.
Mar 05 16:36:41 <ZedsterX>	i am aware of that mp :)
Mar 05 16:37:13 <ZedsterX>	i gotta run just thought ya should know
Mar 05 16:37:14 <Namworld>	0.00608? Common, S.DICE-PT is like 6.5% cheaper
Mar 05 16:37:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00569 = 0.0854 BTC [+]
Mar 05 16:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.53162 BTC [-]
Mar 05 16:38:49 <B0g4r7_>	Heya burnside.  You gonna have some Startum h4wtness for us?
Mar 05 16:38:52 <burnside>	thar she is, try it again now
Mar 05 16:39:10 <burnside>	had a 600 second cache when it should have only been 60
Mar 05 16:39:11 <B0g4r7_>	Stratum too
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Mar 05 16:40:53 <burnside>	I really want to get stratum going, I'm testing it via our DDoS service.
Mar 05 16:41:14 <burnside>	Gotta make sure it works through 'em
Mar 05 16:42:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18055 @ 0.00074217 = 13.3999 BTC [-]
Mar 05 16:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 05 16:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00500001 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Mar 05 16:48:38 <burnside>	hey all, the motion is up on ASICMINER-PT, grants 90 days no maintenance fees (in theory, should be long enough for Friedcat to get his exchange going) and also reduces the maintenance in tiers down to 0.5% if there are more than 10k shares being maintained.
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Mar 05 16:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.525 = 1.05 BTC [-]
Mar 05 16:49:11 <dub>	anyone here want 100 asicminer?
Mar 05 16:49:14 <burnside>	should cover all the bases, highly recommend approval, as there's no downside for shareholders.
Mar 05 16:49:56 <ThickAsThieves>	dub, how much?
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Mar 05 16:50:50 <dub>	idk, what are the going for?
Mar 05 16:51:02 <dub>	looks like .65 on teh PTs
Mar 05 16:51:13 <ThickAsThieves>	.55 on forums, .65 on PTs i think
Mar 05 16:51:28 <dub>	why the disparity?
Mar 05 16:51:39 <ThickAsThieves>	they sell fast on forums
Mar 05 16:51:43 <ThickAsThieves>	and slow on PT
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Mar 05 16:52:29 <burnside>	ours are more expensive because I had to secure a call option to get it started.
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Mar 05 16:52:57 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> why the disparity? << because not beingon an exchange sucks.
Mar 05 16:53:03 <ThickAsThieves>	there are only 2 ppl selling on the PT's. INAU, and Burnside, right?
Mar 05 16:54:47 <burnside>	but there's benefits there too.  don't have to deal with trust issues, escrow, etc.
Mar 05 16:55:14 <burnside>	yeah, liquidity will be much better on and exchange if you need to move fast
Mar 05 16:55:33 <ThickAsThieves>	but i could, say,
Mar 05 16:55:35 <burnside>	yeah, I think right now it's INAU's shares on BF.  I'm not certain of that.
Mar 05 16:55:40 <ThickAsThieves>	dub pass your shares into BF
Mar 05 16:55:41 <Anduckkk>	okay
Mar 05 16:55:44 <ThickAsThieves>	then push to me
Mar 05 16:55:48 <Anduckkk>	how much asicminer got mining hash rate?
Mar 05 16:55:52 <ThickAsThieves>	and escrow my coins
Mar 05 16:56:09 <Anduckkk>	i can sell 18 shares (asicminer) for 0.65 each
Mar 05 16:56:15 <Anduckkk>	pm me if interested.,
Mar 05 16:56:48 <ThickAsThieves>	you and everyone else
Mar 05 16:56:52 <burnside>	heh
Mar 05 16:57:41 <burnside>	I'm hoping I can sell all 1000 in short order because it'll let me issue a small refund that'll bring the price down a bit.
Mar 05 16:57:46 <dub>	buttfunder?
Mar 05 16:58:01 <burnside>	with the premium on the option the shares are more expensive in lower volume
Mar 05 16:58:04 <ZedsterX>	burnie like the motion but ya know nice guys never win
Mar 05 16:58:34 <burnside>	haha, ZedsterX, I kinda like my utopian bubble.
Mar 05 16:58:54 <ZedsterX>	hehe
Mar 05 16:58:55 <ThickAsThieves>	burn, if you wanna sell 1000 shares
Mar 05 16:58:59 <ThickAsThieves>	put em at 55
Mar 05 16:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5489 = 2.7445 BTC [+]
Mar 05 16:59:44 <burnside>	I hear ya, didn't get 'em at 55 tho.  breakeven is around 64 if all 1000 sell
Mar 05 17:00:19 <burnside>	sucks, I know, but that's the option I got.
Mar 05 17:00:35 <ThickAsThieves>	you could get rid of that complicated tier scheme
Mar 05 17:00:52 <ThickAsThieves>	and promo them as pnly 1% cit from divs, nor service fees
Mar 05 17:00:54 <burnside>	in a week when asicminer is doing 12TH and they're 1 BTC/ea the 3 weeks remaining on the option are going to look pretty nice.
Mar 05 17:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	they're doing 12th in a week ?
Mar 05 17:02:17 <ZedsterX>	now if i only have 4 shares I still fall the 10000 share catergory right?
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Mar 05 17:02:29 <burnside>	that was a prediction, I think I heard that they're doing 7.2TH today
Mar 05 17:02:39 <burnside>	ZedsterX, definitely
Mar 05 17:02:44 <ZedsterX>	sweet
Mar 05 17:02:49 <burnside>	it's how many are in the passthru total
Mar 05 17:02:59 <ZedsterX>	cool
Mar 05 17:03:36 <ZedsterX>	once again i was miss reading...geez its hard to be so slow sometimes
Mar 05 17:04:08 <Lyspooner>	http://www.finalsatoshi.com/
Mar 05 17:04:43 <burnside>	ThickAsThieves, I hear ya, but contracts are for when things go bad as much as they are for when things go good.
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Mar 05 17:05:14 <pigeons>	that's so much cooler than a gem, take my money!
Mar 05 17:05:16 <ZedsterX>	Lyspooner: do they give those sites out with every BTC?
Mar 05 17:05:30 <ThickAsThieves>	my idea could be a contract too
Mar 05 17:05:36 <ZedsterX>	pigeons: lol
Mar 05 17:06:51 <ZedsterX>	but it does have twist
Mar 05 17:06:58 <ZedsterX>	a twist*
Mar 05 17:07:30 <burnside>	ThickAsThieves, definitely, but imagine you're a PT operator.  You try to do something you see the community has a need for, roll it out, and a few hours later a competitor clones it and you don't sell as many as you needed to cover the costs.  That's the "bad" possibility, and everything I predicted would happen pretty much has.
Mar 05 17:08:34 <burnside>	So now, if I only sell 100 shares, a straight 1% on the div isn't going to come anywhere near covering the costs.
Mar 05 17:08:49 <dub>	latest in teh AM thread is that they are the top three on ozcoin making it 7.4Th right now
Mar 05 17:09:00 <burnside>	dub, nice, that's awesome.  ;)
Mar 05 17:09:59 <ThickAsThieves>	if i were a PT operator i wouldnt have borrowed 100 shares
Mar 05 17:10:03 <ThickAsThieves>	1000
Mar 05 17:10:04 <ThickAsThieves>	*
Mar 05 17:10:26 <ThickAsThieves>	i wouldve gotten someone with more resources to run their own PT on my exchange
Mar 05 17:10:26 <ZedsterX>	be nice
Mar 05 17:10:34 <burnside>	They're not borrowed.  Option = good as owned.
Mar 05 17:11:19 <burnside>	I approached several people.  None seemed interested.
Mar 05 17:12:27 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Mar 05 17:13:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder if asicminer will really make an exchange anytime soon
Mar 05 17:14:07 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: I'll leave it for the moment, I don't trust DT (or have a bf acct)
Mar 05 17:15:05 <ThickAsThieves>	no worries
Mar 05 17:15:41 <ThickAsThieves>	dont have to use BF necessarily, but I'm on the fence about putting that much in too
Mar 05 17:15:51 <burnside>	Someone had a pretty good comment on the asicminer thread... something like 'you should concentrate on mining, focus on your core business'.  I have a skewed perspective of course but as a shareholder I tend to agree.
Mar 05 17:16:06 <ThickAsThieves>	definitely
Mar 05 17:16:19 <mod6>	hugo chaves died huh
Mar 05 17:16:34 <burnside>	So I hope they go with an exchange that is already out there.
Mar 05 17:16:47 <burnside>	course I worry it won't be mine, but 'eh, stuff happens.
Mar 05 17:16:55 <burnside>	I'll do the best I can.
Mar 05 17:17:18 <ThickAsThieves>	honestly i'd rather have it on both BTCT and BF
Mar 05 17:17:29 <ThickAsThieves>	and LTCglobal too
Mar 05 17:17:38 <ThickAsThieves>	the more the merrier
Mar 05 17:17:39 <Ukto>	burnside: just like all the other pt's, its best to beon all exchanges
Mar 05 17:17:42 <Ukto>	it increases arb
Mar 05 17:17:47 <Ukto>	and makes more trades for both of us
Mar 05 17:17:49 <burnside>	people keep PM'ing me asking why I don't do one on LTC-GLOBAL.  heh
Mar 05 17:17:58 <burnside>	I tell 'em it's to give someone else a chance.  ;)
Mar 05 17:18:08 <ThickAsThieves>	tell Deprived
Mar 05 17:18:16 <burnside>	yeah, Deprived would be great.
Mar 05 17:18:16 <ThickAsThieves>	he'd do it i bet
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Mar 05 17:19:10 <burnside>	I suspect he has the same issues I had, which is going to be securing enough shares up front to make it worthwhile.
Mar 05 17:19:29 <burnside>	I only had 100 shares on GLBSE.  (sad face)
Mar 05 17:19:39 <ThickAsThieves>	he has some of his own
Mar 05 17:19:46 <ThickAsThieves>	i forget how many
Mar 05 17:19:57 <burnside>	If it's less than ~500 it's probably not enough.
Mar 05 17:21:20 <ThickAsThieves>	no idea, but yeah probly less than that as far as his fund goes
Mar 05 17:21:33 <ZedsterX>	well deprived likes AM thats for sure after the tongue lashing he gave me in the forums for joking around about AMs dividends :P
Mar 05 17:22:27 <burnside>	heh, he's a pretty smart guy.  has set me straight more than once.
Mar 05 17:22:55 <ThickAsThieves>	Deprived is the shit
Mar 05 17:23:13 <ThickAsThieves>	only talked to him briefly, but he's all bizness
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Mar 05 17:24:11 <ZedsterX>	his thoughts on AM: ASICMINER isn't some shitty mining bond that pays out dividends whilst it values decline - the plan is very clearly to grow the company and profits.  And if that means foregoing dividends at times, so be it.
Mar 05 17:25:51 <EskimoBob>	ZedsterX: who?
Mar 05 17:26:03 <ZedsterX>	Deprived
Mar 05 17:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5488 = 1.0976 BTC [-]
Mar 05 17:26:05 <burnside>	I think he's spot-on.
Mar 05 17:26:17 <EskimoBob>	he is right about mining bonds :)
Mar 05 17:26:35 <ZedsterX>	i was only joking about something at the time
Mar 05 17:27:06 <ZedsterX>	about you losing money actually burnie
Mar 05 17:27:58 <EskimoBob>	lots of people got really upset when I wrote badly about mining bonds (aka turds) in rising diff market.
Mar 05 17:28:43 <burnside>	yeah, nobody wants to be told they made a bad investment
Mar 05 17:28:50 <burnside>	or worse, all their investments are bad
Mar 05 17:28:55 <EskimoBob>	yeah
Mar 05 17:29:12 <burnside>	they're figuring it out though.
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Mar 05 17:29:48 <EskimoBob>	People are still throwing money at gigavps :)
Mar 05 17:30:17 <burnside>	man, do they know that the teramining is only 9 months?
Mar 05 17:30:30 <EskimoBob>	and his farm of fpgas and vid cards :)
Mar 05 17:30:31 <burnside>	then they have nothing.
Mar 05 17:31:29 <EskimoBob>	if it was a typical 9 month short note, why not but this one has no maturity value
Mar 05 17:31:58 <burnside>	heh, or at least a guarantee to run it until the principal is returned
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Mar 05 17:32:13 <EskimoBob>	or did he set a maturity price?
Mar 05 17:32:22 <burnside>	I predict much pain and suffering.
Mar 05 17:32:26 <burnside>	I don't think so.
Mar 05 17:32:28 <EskimoBob>	lol, this can take about .... forever?
Mar 05 17:35:15 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 05 17:35:16 <gribble>	1 BTC = 40.46599 U.S. dollars = 30.9823061 Euros
Mar 05 17:35:30 <EskimoBob>	AAAHHH!! fuck! WHAT!
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Mar 05 17:41:06 <EskimoBob>	LTC price is also doing tricks :)
Mar 05 17:41:57 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 05 17:42:00 <Namworld>	Everything is
Mar 05 17:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5488 = 1.6464 BTC [-]
Mar 05 17:50:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5488 BTC [-]
Mar 05 17:52:10 <jcpham>	http://adamdraper.com/post/44563343164/boost-vc-welcomes-bitcoin
Mar 05 17:54:28 <ZedsterX>	everything except SDICE
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Mar 05 17:56:34 <pigeons>	bitcoin jumped the shark
Mar 05 17:56:56 <jcpham>	checkout the discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5323867
Mar 05 17:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3445 @ 0.00073653 = 2.5373 BTC [-]
Mar 05 17:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1005 @ 0.00074999 = 0.7537 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 18:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5489 = 2.7445 BTC [+]
Mar 05 18:23:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [-]
Mar 05 18:23:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.277 = 1.385 BTC [-]
Mar 05 18:23:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.275 = 0.55 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 18:42:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3884 @ 0.00074999 = 2.913 BTC [+]
Mar 05 18:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5333 @ 0.00075 = 3.9998 BTC [+]
Mar 05 18:43:26 <Anduckkk>	;;seen smickles
Mar 05 18:43:26 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, 32 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
Mar 05 18:43:31 <Anduckkk>	any1 know where's smickles?
Mar 05 18:51:15 <dub>	mars
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Mar 05 18:52:47 <Anduckkk>	did s.dice. pay divs?
Mar 05 18:53:52 <Namworld>	smickles operates a passthrough?
Mar 05 18:54:08 <Namworld>	or are the questions completly unrelated?
Mar 05 18:54:16 <Namworld>	S.DICE did pay divs
Mar 05 18:54:18 <BitHub>	i believe divs have been paid
Mar 05 18:55:43 <mod6>	smickles used to run a S.MPOE ETF, i don't think he has a s.dice PT
Mar 05 18:56:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 971 @ 0.00569 = 5.525 BTC [+]
Mar 05 18:56:22 <mod6>	he's been on hiatus for a bit
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Mar 05 19:00:53 <dub>	perhaps smickles was just one of usagi/atlas' personalities that they got bored of
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Mar 05 19:06:17 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;ticker
Mar 05 19:06:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.62634, Best ask: 40.64625, Bid-ask spread: 0.01991, Last trade: 40.64625, 24 hour volume: 85354.08241107, 24 hour low: 36.15000, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 39.35453
Mar 05 19:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00073798 = 0.7011 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 19:43:20 <Anduckkk>	Namworld: smickles is a mpex broker.
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Mar 05 19:55:01 <blu3gr1ffon>	;ticker
Mar 05 19:55:03 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;ticker
Mar 05 19:55:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.66321, Best ask: 40.69998, Bid-ask spread: 0.03677, Last trade: 40.69998, 24 hour volume: 84910.05251016, 24 hour low: 36.15000, 24 hour high: 40.69998, 24 hour vwap: 39.41449
Mar 05 19:55:17 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 05 19:55:18 <gribble>	39.42
Mar 05 19:55:40 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;bids 39
Mar 05 19:55:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.1588 = 1.588 BTC [-]
Mar 05 19:55:45 <gribble>	There are currently 7732.9822 bitcoins demanded at or over 39.0 USD, worth 305910.459906 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0068 seconds
Mar 05 19:56:03 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;asks 41
Mar 05 19:56:03 <gribble>	There are currently 5029.1988 bitcoins offered at or under 41.0 USD, worth 205595.523373 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.2062 seconds
Mar 05 19:56:08 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 19:56:09 <gribble>	0.354137 seconds
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Mar 05 19:57:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7894 @ 0.00073798 = 5.8256 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 20:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5489 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 20:24:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
Mar 05 20:25:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.30001 BTC [-]
Mar 05 20:25:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 20:41:32 <Chaang-Noi>	there goes 41...
Mar 05 20:42:01 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 42
Mar 05 20:42:12 <Chaang-Noi>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 20:42:12 <gribble>	34.449227 seconds
Mar 05 20:42:13 <gribble>	There are currently 2214.5656 bitcoins offered at or under 42.0 USD, worth 92873.1441695 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0023 seconds
Mar 05 20:42:27 <Chaang-Noi>	34 seconds, wow
Mar 05 20:42:35 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 05 20:42:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.60000, Best ask: 41.62391, Bid-ask spread: 0.02391, Last trade: 41.63459, 24 hour volume: 92904.55302421, 24 hour low: 36.15200, 24 hour high: 41.63459, 24 hour vwap: 39.57403
Mar 05 20:43:06 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 20:43:07 <gribble>	46.712659 seconds
Mar 05 20:43:09 <blu3gr1ffon>	nice
Mar 05 20:43:21 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 20:43:21 <gribble>	57.465356 seconds
Mar 05 20:43:51 <Namworld>	lag going up, price going up
Mar 05 20:44:00 <blu3gr1ffon>	correlation
Mar 05 20:44:16 <blu3gr1ffon>	bugpowder eating used to make the price go up.
Mar 05 20:44:35 <blu3gr1ffon>	bugpowder, are you eating?
Mar 05 20:45:44 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 05 20:45:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.50011, Best ask: 41.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09989, Last trade: 41.60000, 24 hour volume: 93000.46592471, 24 hour low: 36.15200, 24 hour high: 41.70000, 24 hour vwap: 39.57724
Mar 05 20:46:00 <blu3gr1ffon>	93k volume
Mar 05 20:46:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 05 20:46:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 107 @ 0.005 = 0.535 BTC [-]
Mar 05 20:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.005 = 4 BTC [-]
Mar 05 20:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00073315 = 7.3315 BTC [-]
Mar 05 20:56:18 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 05 20:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 41.20198681 / 46.0855546 (no shares, 6,242.04 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Mar 05 20:56:36 <thestringpuller>	oh wow
Mar 05 20:56:45 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 05 20:56:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.10000, Best ask: 41.19659, Bid-ask spread: 0.09659, Last trade: 41.19659, 24 hour volume: 93498.98495416, 24 hour low: 36.15200, 24 hour high: 41.70000, 24 hour vwap: 39.58850
Mar 05 20:56:54 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 20:56:54 <gribble>	0.399 seconds
Mar 05 20:57:16 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 05 20:57:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.10000, Best ask: 41.19659, Bid-ask spread: 0.09659, Last trade: 41.19659, 24 hour volume: 93498.71295416, 24 hour low: 36.15200, 24 hour high: 41.70000, 24 hour vwap: 39.58853
Mar 05 20:58:08 <thestringpuller>	how much slippage is available...
Mar 05 20:58:18 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 10000
Mar 05 20:58:25 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 395627.4894 USD and would take the last price down to 38.7399 USD, resulting in an average price of 39.5627 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
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Mar 05 21:00:19 <ThickAssLaptop>	;;market sell 50000
Mar 05 21:00:35 <gribble>	A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 1794513.4099 USD and would take the last price down to 31.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 35.8903 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0047 seconds
Mar 05 21:01:54 <thestringpuller>	oh wow. haha. this is a powder keg. all the people with coins are gonna conspire and make it go boom
Mar 05 21:02:52 <ThickAssLaptop>	;;asks 50
Mar 05 21:03:07 <gribble>	There are currently 16884.215 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 777442.816738 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
Mar 05 21:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6498 BTC [-]
Mar 05 21:04:14 <ThickAssLaptop>	;;market buy 16885
Mar 05 21:04:14 <gribble>	A market order to buy 16885 bitcoins right now would take 777482.0700 USD and would take the last price up to 50.0010 USD, resulting in an average price of 46.0457 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 66.8273 seconds
Mar 05 21:04:33 <thestringpuller>	i wonder if someone is waiting to drop a sell order on this keg
Mar 05 21:04:48 <Namworld>	All assets prices are falling like crazy =/
Mar 05 21:04:55 <Namworld>	I can't sell anything
Mar 05 21:05:10 <Namworld>	I want to sell BTC for USD =/
Mar 05 21:05:56 <jcpham>	derp
Mar 05 21:06:08 <error4733>	wait tmrw, sell at 50$...
Mar 05 21:06:29 <Namworld>	I'd need to be able to cash out
Mar 05 21:06:57 <jcpham>	you can check out any time you like
Mar 05 21:07:02 <jcpham>	but you may neverleave
Mar 05 21:07:07 *	Ukto puts Namworld up for auction
Mar 05 21:07:08 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 05 21:07:27 <Namworld>	Very rare! Only 2k BTC!
Mar 05 21:07:47 <Ukto>	just send to my address
Mar 05 21:07:47 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 05 21:10:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 24 @ 0.569 = 13.656 BTC [-]
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Mar 05 21:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 21:12:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.56001, Best ask: 41.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 41.65000, 24 hour volume: 94505.95802205, 24 hour low: 36.15200, 24 hour high: 41.79000, 24 hour vwap: 39.61246
Mar 05 21:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	what, only 41 ?!
Mar 05 21:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	i wish to speak to the manager.
Mar 05 21:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.56001 - the oix fuckin' predicted, man!
Mar 05 21:13:06 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 05 21:13:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 20 @ 0.63494 = 12.6988 BTC [-]
Mar 05 21:13:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2504 @ 0.00485 = 12.1444 BTC [-]
Mar 05 21:15:04 <Chaang-Noi>	http://falkvinge.net/2013/03/06/the-target-value-for-bitcoin-is-not-some-50-or-100-it-is-100000-to-1000000/
Mar 05 21:15:18 <Chaang-Noi>	100,000 here we come
Mar 05 21:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 21:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	while that's true for later on,
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Mar 05 21:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	for now i'd be worried
Mar 05 21:16:12 <Chaang-Noi>	he says starting around 2019
Mar 05 21:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	like that i can see it
Mar 05 21:16:28 <Chaang-Noi>	like when it will start to go mainstream
Mar 05 21:16:44 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu should drop a sell bomb
Mar 05 21:16:44 <TomServo>	really, just 6 years?
Mar 05 21:16:45 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah that is kinda what i was thinking too, but 100,000 each is a bit high
Mar 05 21:16:54 <thestringpuller>	pop the bubble
Mar 05 21:16:57 <thestringpuller>	pop it
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Mar 05 21:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/309115529589829632
Mar 05 21:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda worrisome.
Mar 05 21:17:17 <Chaang-Noi>	fbi got him?
Mar 05 21:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo 6 years you know ? look what happened in 2.
Mar 05 21:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	interwebs move fast.
Mar 05 21:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	i still believe my old 1 month - 1 year thing.
Mar 05 21:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller you didn't buy enough under 20 cause it was too expensive last month, did you.
Mar 05 21:18:00 <Chaang-Noi>	bitinstant still down and out with peoples money?
Mar 05 21:18:05 <TomServo>	I get 6 years would be an eternity for bitcoin, but that still seems...aggressive.
Mar 05 21:18:16 <mod6>	im suprised that's his only reponse to the trilema blog
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Mar 05 21:18:23 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi they got fucked but it's not their fault and their #1 priority is security except not rly.
Mar 05 21:18:29 <gwillen>	Chaang-Noi: huh, did he just publish that?
Mar 05 21:18:40 <gwillen>	we've only been at $41.50 for like an hour
Mar 05 21:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 it's easier.
Mar 05 21:18:52 <mod6>	they seem extra scammy
Mar 05 21:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99999999 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, they don't seem scammy to me, but certainly veering into the "we're 18 hear us roar" sorta attitude.
Mar 05 21:19:52 <mod6>	yeah, they're old than that though...and they ought to start caring about security
Mar 05 21:20:10 <mod6>	before they have gaping anus'
Mar 05 21:20:36 <mod6>	*older
Mar 05 21:21:06 <mircea_popescu>	i think the perspective shift from "we're trying and so nobody should criticise us" to "w'ere doing" is really difficult for most kids
Mar 05 21:21:12 <mircea_popescu>	and extra difficult for all americans.
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Mar 05 21:22:17 <mod6>	well, in my 13 years of software dev in this country, it has /always/ been: Dollars first, security when we can get to it.
Mar 05 21:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	kinda hard to secure platforms that weren't build around security from the very beginning.
Mar 05 21:22:45 <mod6>	absolutly /never/ do they build shit with any security model in mind.
Mar 05 21:23:02 <mircea_popescu>	yea...welll... the trillions in yearly online fraud have to come from somewhere.
Mar 05 21:23:06 <mod6>	its constantly bolted on the side.
Mar 05 21:23:08 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: no i just like seeing self inflicted crashes so rich people can profiteer
Mar 05 21:23:13 <thestringpuller>	smickles has all my btc :(
Mar 05 21:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	Confirmed total: 3,735 BTC
Mar 05 21:24:12 <mircea_popescu>	dude i totally like this bitbet. wouldn't it be the laugh of all time if i end up retiring over my bitbet stock
Mar 05 21:24:34 <mod6>	:]
Mar 05 21:24:39 <dub>	stupid people
Mar 05 21:24:56 <thestringpuller>	what bet?
Mar 05 21:25:26 <dub>	I try to give them my money but nooo, their property is a unique snowflake that is clearly worth more than people are willing to pay
Mar 05 21:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller site total.
Mar 05 21:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	dub stop buying girlfriends.
Mar 05 21:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, bfl 210:50 against april 1st delivery.
Mar 05 21:26:08 <mod6>	HEH
Mar 05 21:26:10 <dub>	ouch
Mar 05 21:26:20 <Chaang-Noi>	bitinstant was down, people could not get their money/btc   maybe people know now but when i went to bed 8 hours ago i had no idea why
Mar 05 21:26:29 <Chaang-Noi>	mp how did they get fucked?
Mar 05 21:26:33 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi basically the story is,
Mar 05 21:26:38 <BitHub>	apirl 1st bfl comes out saying it they were joking all along
Mar 05 21:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	someone got their dns host through social engineering
Mar 05 21:26:47 <mircea_popescu>	they saw the foreign email, removed it and went to bed
Mar 05 21:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	then the next morning got phished
Mar 05 21:26:56 <mircea_popescu>	then lost 1k btc off one of the exchanges
Mar 05 21:27:03 <thestringpuller>	mod6 :P
Mar 05 21:27:04 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Mar 05 21:27:05 <mircea_popescu>	then "the community should learn a lesson"
Mar 05 21:27:21 <mircea_popescu>	they make no mention of what actual measures they took for the future, and don't seem to have learned anything at all.
Mar 05 21:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	so i wrote a piece explaining why and wherefore
Mar 05 21:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	which shrem just went on the record saying he doesn't comprehend.
Mar 05 21:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	so i'm thinking... best stick to smpake and d&t's services.
Mar 05 21:27:52 <Chaang-Noi>	well i like veer and think bitinstant is needed for btc, but that charlie guy... lol
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Mar 05 21:28:14 <mircea_popescu>	i don't really know either two of them, tbh. never used the bitinstant thing
Mar 05 21:28:29 <Ukto>	erik and charlie are both very nice
Mar 05 21:28:39 <Ukto>	charlie has been very busy personally lately
Mar 05 21:28:53 <Ukto>	and erik has been out and about traveling
Mar 05 21:28:56 <Chaang-Noi>	that charlie guy honestly i think might be mildly retarded. he said he was scared to take money form the fbi in his thread and i was like why? are doing something illegal? he responce was the "fedral bra inspectors" i was like wtf??
Mar 05 21:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-events-of-failday/ << it kinda explains what my issue is with the entire thing.
Mar 05 21:30:02 <Chaang-Noi>	atleast they only lost 1000 btc, could ahve been much much higher
Mar 05 21:30:03 <error4733>	welcome to 42$
Mar 05 21:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi there was recently a rash of small arms manufacturers refusing to deal with their rogue government there
Mar 05 21:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	maybe this is of the same sort.
Mar 05 21:30:11 <dub>	erik is clearly retarded, doesn't bode well if both of them are
Mar 05 21:30:13 <Ukto>	fbi doing something illegal? happens. prosocutors offering compromise to get you to do illegal acts on their behalf? happens. kimdotcom? happened.
Mar 05 21:30:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1262 @ 0.00608 = 7.673 BTC [-]
Mar 05 21:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 21:30:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.00000, Best ask: 42.05750, Bid-ask spread: 0.05750, Last trade: 42.00000, 24 hour volume: 97498.99357980, 24 hour low: 36.47000, 24 hour high: 42.50689, 24 hour vwap: 39.76206
Mar 05 21:30:32 <Chaang-Noi>	mp where?
Mar 05 21:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 that's more like it. are you the manager ?
Mar 05 21:31:00 <Chaang-Noi>	Ukto that is what i said, is using bitinstant an illegal act, and he would not answer me yes or no...
Mar 05 21:31:23 <Chaang-Noi>	Ukto he went on some childish tanget about bras to avoid the topic
Mar 05 21:31:58 <mod6>	weak
Mar 05 21:32:03 <Chaang-Noi>	we are well into 42... i wake up and pop 41 and pop 42.. damn
Mar 05 21:32:31 <error4733>	welcome to 42$
Mar 05 21:32:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i told him i cant tell people to use bitinstant any more if he cant tell me that he does not think using it is not illegal...
Mar 05 21:32:39 <Ukto>	$42.68 is current high
Mar 05 21:32:43 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 05 21:32:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.00000, Best ask: 42.47121, Bid-ask spread: 0.47121, Last trade: 42.47121, 24 hour volume: 97587.14426085, 24 hour low: 36.50000, 24 hour high: 42.68943, 24 hour vwap: 39.76494
Mar 05 21:33:13 <Chaang-Noi>	if it was not for all the strong bids id say this is bubble:/ but it does not look like bubble:/
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Mar 05 21:33:41 <Chaang-Noi>	i think the sellers who were going to sell sold at 28-32 expecting to get them cheaper...
Mar 05 21:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi Feb 23 17:44:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/23/gaining-momentum-now-42-gun-companies-have-stopped-selling-to-law-enforcement-in-anti-2nd-amendment-states/
Mar 05 21:34:03 *	Bugpowder is now known as Guest11426
Mar 05 21:34:15 <Chaang-Noi>	america and guns :)
Mar 05 21:34:19 <Guest11426>	Sold 7% @ $40.40
Mar 05 21:34:26 <Guest11426>	3 hours ago
Mar 05 21:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	hi guest
Mar 05 21:34:29 <Guest11426>	LOL
Mar 05 21:34:44 *	Guest11426 is now known as Bugpowderr
Mar 05 21:34:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold about 5% at 35ish...
Mar 05 21:35:00 <Bugpowderr>	;;ticker
Mar 05 21:35:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.05850, Best ask: 42.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24150, Last trade: 42.05850, 24 hour volume: 97857.41109838, 24 hour low: 36.56000, 24 hour high: 42.69000, 24 hour vwap: 39.77385
Mar 05 21:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	i've not sold
Mar 05 21:35:11 <ThickAssLaptop>	sold 0%
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Mar 05 21:35:25 <Bugpowderr>	Selling a little makes me have courage
Mar 05 21:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	selling is for girls
Mar 05 21:35:29 <Bugpowderr>	for the long hold
Mar 05 21:35:32 <Bugpowderr>	yes
Mar 05 21:35:37 <Bugpowderr>	it actually is for girls
Mar 05 21:35:41 <Chaang-Noi>	selling a little makes my family have food and nice things...
Mar 05 21:35:42 <Bugpowderr>	wife is happy
Mar 05 21:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	so then great :D
Mar 05 21:35:48 <Bugpowderr>	now let my coins be...
Mar 05 21:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 05 21:35:56 *	jcpham continues to hoard and watch
Mar 05 21:36:04 <Bugpowderr>	Now S.DICE needs to bounce
Mar 05 21:36:08 <Bugpowderr>	this is redic
Mar 05 21:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham more than a house, less than a car ?
Mar 05 21:36:32 <Bugpowderr>	I should deposit and buy that block at .0047
Mar 05 21:36:45 <jcpham>	i traded afe wbitcoinf or 800$ in amazon the other day
Mar 05 21:36:52 <Chaang-Noi>	mp that is lol but just a stunt, the cops will get arms
Mar 05 21:36:53 <jcpham>	wth
Mar 05 21:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	"Swarm Economy"... i originally read "Smarm Economy
Mar 05 21:37:12 <jcpham>	anyways Ilaunder my money through my family
Mar 05 21:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi yeah, asciilifeform was making the same point, marketing gimmick.
Mar 05 21:37:16 <jcpham>	buy them the things they need
Mar 05 21:37:32 <Chaang-Noi>	gets in the press, make a point
Mar 05 21:37:57 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu i noticed that reference btw
Mar 05 21:38:00 <jcpham>	good one
Mar 05 21:38:09 <dub>	s.duece is never bouncing
Mar 05 21:38:16 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 05 21:38:22 <jcpham>	i only had about 300 BTC stolen from me
Mar 05 21:38:28 <jcpham>	1600btc if i count the interest
Mar 05 21:38:32 <dub>	lol
Mar 05 21:38:36 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i'm the agent of "never forget"
Mar 05 21:38:39 <jcpham>	so no big deal
Mar 05 21:38:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1262 @ 0.00569 = 7.1808 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:39:00 <mircea_popescu>	1600 btc wouldn't have bought a car back in sept would it have ?
Mar 05 21:39:07 <jcpham>	but this time last year i mined a few hundred bucks a day
Mar 05 21:39:15 <jcpham>	and gave it to strangers for shits and giggles
Mar 05 21:39:19 <mircea_popescu>	i guess just about yeah.
Mar 05 21:39:19 <jcpham>	my how we change
Mar 05 21:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i'm still in that phase, just, the rate supports my extravagance.
Mar 05 21:39:43 <Bugpowderr>	$43
Mar 05 21:39:47 <error4733>	43$
Mar 05 21:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	no fucking way ?!
Mar 05 21:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 21:39:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.99998, Best ask: 43.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 42.99998, 24 hour volume: 98119.15011464, 24 hour low: 36.69989, 24 hour high: 43.00000, 24 hour vwap: 39.80119
Mar 05 21:39:52 <jcpham>	it might have bought me a yugo
Mar 05 21:39:54 <error4733>	haha
Mar 05 21:39:57 <error4733>	WTF
Mar 05 21:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	ok mr manager, i withdraw my complaint.
Mar 05 21:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13497 @ 0.00073462 = 9.9152 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34806 @ 0.00075 = 26.1045 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:40:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 908 @ 0.00608 = 5.5206 BTC [-]
Mar 05 21:40:23 <mircea_popescu>	50 is happening this week.
Mar 05 21:40:27 <jcpham>	i regret all the silver bullion i've bought
Mar 05 21:40:34 <jcpham>	facepalm
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Mar 05 21:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i never bouight any! ha!
Mar 05 21:40:48 <jcpham>	good for you
Mar 05 21:41:03 <error4733>	i regret not invented bitcoin
Mar 05 21:41:04 <jcpham>	i've brought in about 100 ounces
Mar 05 21:41:17 <jcpham>	that i payed way to much for at this juncture
Mar 05 21:41:18 <mircea_popescu>	my problem was, so buy 100 ounces. da fuck do i do with it now ?
Mar 05 21:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	more shit to stumble over.
Mar 05 21:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	i think many people love bitcoin PRECISELY because it's so ethereal.
Mar 05 21:42:38 <dub>	so all these librariantarians hoard metal for the econopocalypse right?
Mar 05 21:42:45 <jcpham>	i really hope this price finds long term support
Mar 05 21:42:57 <dub>	because when everyone is starving they are goign to care about silver and gold
Mar 05 21:43:08 <Ukto>	[20:39] <amphipod> Mar06 02:40:52 mtgox             0.4000 @    43.00       USD
Mar 05 21:43:09 <jcpham>	i have some metal on hand in case i need to trade one day
Mar 05 21:43:22 <asciilifeform>	speaking of physical investments with use value (unlike metals) ...
Mar 05 21:43:26 <dub>	protip: hoard food and ammo, nobody is goign to want your shiney metal
Mar 05 21:43:27 <error4733>	god job prepper !
Mar 05 21:43:32 <jcpham>	i like to think i have enough shiny stuff to purchase something i might need
Mar 05 21:43:33 <asciilifeform>	you know what has been doing almost as well as BTC? Ammo.
Mar 05 21:43:40 <jcpham>	but what i might need i do not know
Mar 05 21:43:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 24 @ 0.22 = 5.28 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:43:53 <jcpham>	i also have several thousand rounds of ammo
Mar 05 21:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 10 @ 0.24103982 = 2.4104 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:43:56 <jcpham>	just in case
Mar 05 21:44:23 <jcpham>	i also have plans to lock down my little island
Mar 05 21:44:28 <jcpham>	should shit hit the fan
Mar 05 21:44:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 5 @ 0.20618917 = 1.0309 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23521087 = 235.2109 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:44:35 <dub>	i don't understand how metal is supposed to have value when fiat doesnt
Mar 05 21:44:42 <jcpham>	i fell you there
Mar 05 21:44:51 <jcpham>	the more i think about it the more i tend to agree
Mar 05 21:44:53 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 43
Mar 05 21:44:59 <jcpham>	my thoughts on metal have changed
Mar 05 21:45:00 <gribble>	There are currently 112.41585 bitcoins offered at or under 43.0 USD, worth 4833.88037854 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 05 21:45:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21048426 = 210.4843 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:45:16 <Chaang-Noi>	that wont hold lol
Mar 05 21:45:35 <ThickAssLaptop>	lol
Mar 05 21:45:38 <dub>	sure you can make ammo out of metal but its probably cheaper ot hoard lead?
Mar 05 21:45:47 <ThickAssLaptop>	;;asks 50
Mar 05 21:45:47 <gribble>	There are currently 14803.645 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 693447.9213 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.9849 seconds
Mar 05 21:45:52 <mircea_popescu>	<jcpham> i really hope this price finds long term support << it just might. the reason is that bitcoin with large marketcap is more useful than bitcoin with low mkt cap.
Mar 05 21:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform ammo is almost pure metal :D
Mar 05 21:46:11 <asciilifeform>	AU/AG have value if the collapse is less-than-global, and there are speculators who might trade you food/etc from abroad in exchange for some shiny metal.
Mar 05 21:46:15 <Ukto>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 21:46:15 <gribble>	78.10124 seconds
Mar 05 21:46:18 <Ukto>	ouch
Mar 05 21:46:29 <mircea_popescu>	<gribble> There are currently 112.41585 bitcoins offered at or under 43.0 USD, << epic.
Mar 05 21:46:42 <dub>	asciilifeform: you gonna sail to another country to trade with them?
Mar 05 21:46:50 <dub>	asciilifeform: do you know how to make a sailboat?
Mar 05 21:47:03 <asciilifeform>	no, they do the traveling. See "shuttles" in the collapsing USSR period.
Mar 05 21:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.18844965 = 188.4497 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	ok, the quantity of options i've sold is staggering.
Mar 05 21:47:42 <asciilifeform>	when a nation collapses, people from nearby (and not so nearby) places come to vacuum up the valuables.
Mar 05 21:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	<asciilifeform> when a nation collapses, people from nearby (and not so nearby) places come to vacuum up the valuables. << word on that.
Mar 05 21:48:00 <asciilifeform>	sometimes via trade in basic necessities, sometimes with brute force
Mar 05 21:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	on the collapse of bulgaria in the 90s i went there with a truck full of cans
Mar 05 21:48:03 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu a lot of these numbers and amths are going to be staggering from now on
Mar 05 21:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	came back with truck full of joolry and shit.
Mar 05 21:48:21 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i guess you're right.
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Mar 05 21:48:38 <jcpham>	if this 50 ish range finds support
Mar 05 21:48:42 <dub>	mircea_popescu: what? were they hoarding the jools in their ass?
Mar 05 21:48:47 <jcpham>	the math gets crazier
Mar 05 21:48:48 *	dub rimshot
Mar 05 21:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 21:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	dub they had it real bad at one point. so bad in fact
Mar 05 21:49:07 <error4733>	some1 can sell 20K Sdice ?
Mar 05 21:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	the accepted bus fare was 1 egg
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Mar 05 21:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	in like, sofia.
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Mar 05 21:49:20 <error4733>	just for crush the market to 0.003
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Mar 05 21:49:28 <jcpham>	an egg as currency makes sense if perople are hungry though
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Mar 05 21:49:41 <jcpham>	if i was starving i'd gladly accept an egg
Mar 05 21:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, provided it doesn't stay currency for too long.
Mar 05 21:49:49 <jcpham>	hahha
Mar 05 21:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	a three week old egg in the summer is more of a weapon than a food item
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Mar 05 21:50:15 <jcpham>	yeah idefinitely infuse rotten egs in the supply
Mar 05 21:50:25 <mircea_popescu>	then call yourself bernanke.
Mar 05 21:50:29 <dub>	unless you're in china
Mar 05 21:50:30 <Bugpowderr>	the big sale on S.DICE just got pulled
Mar 05 21:50:34 <dub>	and also have a horse
Mar 05 21:50:35 <jcpham>	buy ketchup
Mar 05 21:50:41 <jcpham>	that what bernanke tells me
Mar 05 21:50:52 <dub>	jcpham: amm and 'turkey
Mar 05 21:51:00 <dub>	ammo*
Mar 05 21:51:00 <jcpham>	or is that warren buffet
Mar 05 21:51:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00075 = 75 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:52:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 10 @ 0.21068324 = 2.1068 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 21:52:51 <asciilifeform>	of course speculators in necessities might as well have bull's eyes painted on them (both for idiot idealists and for marauders)
Mar 05 21:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.18863313 = 188.6331 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 21:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23542766 = 235.4277 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:53:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 990 @ 0.21068324 = 208.5764 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 10 @ 0.23622767 = 2.3623 BTC [+]
Mar 05 21:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	o boy.
Mar 05 21:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	this is one of those.
Mar 05 21:53:51 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: how was your Bulgarian bus defended?
Mar 05 21:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform i am not at liberty to discuss.
Mar 05 21:54:08 <asciilifeform>	didn't think so
Mar 05 21:54:36 <mircea_popescu>	but for the record, there wasn't much violence at the time.
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Mar 05 21:54:48 <mircea_popescu>	certainly less than what counts as a "quiet day" in washington dc or la.
Mar 05 21:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	for that matter, the collapse of the serbian govt during the allied bombing didn't engender much violence at all.
Mar 05 21:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	direct experience shows that without a government people are pretty much doing the exact same things.
Mar 05 21:55:38 <dub>	just some casual genocide
Mar 05 21:55:50 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the Serbs took care of their diversity problem prior to the bombing. In fact, that was the official excuse for the latter...
Mar 05 21:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Mar 05 21:56:11 <jcpham>	'murica: ruining your culture with economics and technology since 1944
Mar 05 21:56:53 <jcpham>	mostly i blame the japanese and perl harbor for the sad state of world affairs
Mar 05 21:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	why bnot go the extra mile and
Mar 05 21:57:04 <jcpham>	*pearl
Mar 05 21:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	blame godzilla.
Mar 05 21:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha PERL HARBOR! totally.
Mar 05 21:57:19 <jcpham>	i've never seen godzilla irl so...
Mar 05 21:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	fuck it. perl ruined the world.
Mar 05 21:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	we can't has good twang because perl.
Mar 05 21:57:37 <mod6>	lol
Mar 05 21:57:45 <asciilifeform>	let's go the whole hog and blame... Cromwell.
Mar 05 21:57:51 <Bugpowderr>	$43.50
Mar 05 21:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform i have a piece about how lincoln is the original cause america sucks.
Mar 05 21:58:11 <mircea_popescu>	why cromwell ?
Mar 05 21:58:20 <jcpham>	British colonialism is really to blame
Mar 05 21:58:30 <jcpham>	or the romans if we want to really point fingers
Mar 05 21:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	colonialism is the solution, not the problem.
Mar 05 21:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	english misunderstanding of french socialism is the problem.
Mar 05 22:00:04 <asciilifeform>	Cromwell pulled the first modern idiot revolution.
Mar 05 22:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	why not alaric, king of the goths ?
Mar 05 22:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	why not the kingdom of bulgaria, to come full circle.
Mar 05 22:00:45 <jcpham>	that was efore my time
Mar 05 22:01:00 <jcpham>	i've only been around for a few hundred years
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Mar 05 22:01:19 <asciilifeform>	Alaric didn't specifically target the concept of nobility.
Mar 05 22:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	orly ?!
Mar 05 22:01:37 <jcpham>	beer.
Mar 05 22:02:47 <error4733>	44
Mar 05 22:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	o no fucking way
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Mar 05 22:03:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.65 = 13 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	twitter sez "discosync.co just won $25k on stage at @Launch."
Mar 05 22:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like.. chuckle. 25k ? 25k whats ?
Mar 05 22:03:54 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoins ?
Mar 05 22:04:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23679642 = 236.7964 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.18982587 = 189.8259 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21195868 = 211.9587 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:05:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 22:05:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.90000, Best ask: 44.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 100112.20743136, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 44.00000, 24 hour vwap: 39.94269
Mar 05 22:05:47 <ThickAssLaptop>	"and though may never have to, it's good to have options"
Mar 05 22:05:51 <ThickAssLaptop>	i
Mar 05 22:08:39 <mod6>	!ticker m "^OIX"
Mar 05 22:08:40 <assbot>	These beans is shit.
Mar 05 22:08:45 <mod6>	lol
Mar 05 22:08:50 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 05 22:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 43.71874246 / 47.83958615 (no shares, 8,160.59 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 05 22:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	hm can that be right ?!
Mar 05 22:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 05 22:09:05 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 43.71874246 / 47.83958615 (no shares, 8,160.59 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 05 22:09:06 <mod6>	thx!
Mar 05 22:09:59 <mod6>	I guess it could be right, have to do the calculation, but someone bought a bunch of puts @ 75
Mar 05 22:10:27 <mod6>	14`375 actually
Mar 05 22:10:34 <error4733>	A LOT !
Mar 05 22:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	i think those were short
Mar 05 22:10:45 <mod6>	ah
Mar 05 22:11:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19079917 = 190.7992 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23791328 = 237.9133 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21299953 = 212.9995 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 22:12:33 <error4733>	45
Mar 05 22:12:56 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Mar06 03:10:42 mtgox     x88 1,000.0000 @    44.93371459 USD
Mar 05 22:13:07 <Chaang-Noi>	the bloody fuck
Mar 05 22:13:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 10 @ 0.17096796 = 1.7097 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:13:16 <Chaang-Noi>	where did 43 and 44 go?
Mar 05 22:13:23 <error4733>	10 min each
Mar 05 22:13:52 <Chaang-Noi>	jesus, i go take a shit and they are gone...
Mar 05 22:13:56 <mod6>	43's are gone, and the even's wern't created this month
Mar 05 22:14:03 <mircea_popescu>	this is sorta like mining
Mar 05 22:14:51 <mircea_popescu>	wow the last few ticks... totally ponzi looking
Mar 05 22:15:31 <mod6>	lots of buy and holders
Mar 05 22:16:05 <mod6>	;;asks 50
Mar 05 22:16:12 <Chaang-Noi>	amphipod> Mar06 03:03:55 mtgox    x138 1,395.9533 @    43.97145535 USD
Mar 05 22:16:13 <gribble>	There are currently 11448.341 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 548166.438908 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Mar 05 22:16:39 <Chaang-Noi>	people are buying 1000 plus coins at a time at this price...
Mar 05 22:16:41 <Chaang-Noi>	wtf?
Mar 05 22:16:42 <mircea_popescu>	data vintage eh ?
Mar 05 22:16:53 <jcpham>	lag
Mar 05 22:17:03 <Chaang-Noi>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 22:17:05 <gribble>	456.476647 seconds
Mar 05 22:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool way of sayin' it.
Mar 05 22:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 22:17:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.06075, Best ask: 44.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23925, Last trade: 44.30000, 24 hour volume: 101787.86062457, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.04730
Mar 05 22:17:12 <dub>	neat
Mar 05 22:17:42 <Chaang-Noi>	and this is with people trying to buy via bitinstant and being left out of the game...
Mar 05 22:19:02 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 05 22:19:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.01000, Best ask: 44.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 44.13135, 24 hour volume: 101769.80421578, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.09091
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Mar 05 22:21:17 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 45
Mar 05 22:21:22 <gribble>	There are currently 274.49811 bitcoins offered at or under 45.0 USD, worth 12352.4148497 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 05 22:21:22 <dub>	dollar spread?
Mar 05 22:21:37 <jcpham>	3 minute trade excution reported in #bitcoin
Mar 05 22:21:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 05 22:21:52 <Chaang-Noi>	;;goxlag
Mar 05 22:21:53 <gribble>	356.027482 seconds
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Mar 05 22:23:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23876878 = 238.7688 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:23:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19154283 = 191.5428 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:23:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21379583 = 213.7958 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 22:24:37 <keith_hanson>	Hm. So... I took a look at the site, but it doesn't really talk about what this channel is for. Is it just general trading talk?
Mar 05 22:24:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 20 @ 0.29732419 = 5.9465 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:24:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 60 @ 0.26660605 = 15.9964 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:24:47 <keith_hanson>	Sorry if the question is a newbtastical one heh
Mar 05 22:24:57 <dub>	its for rational discussion
Mar 05 22:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	keith_hanson try bitcoin-assets.com ?
Mar 05 22:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	but in general, it's for bitcoin securities related talk + porn.
Mar 05 22:25:34 <jcpham>	porn eh
Mar 05 22:25:36 <dub>	by containing rational discussion it is set apart from any other bitcoin forum
Mar 05 22:25:41 <keith_hanson>	mircea_popescu: haha, nice. I gave the website a shot, but... you have to admit, it's pretty light on any sort of information :P
Mar 05 22:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	yeah kakobrekla is a lover not a writer.
Mar 05 22:26:11 <keith_hanson>	dub: Well, so far so good then :P
Mar 05 22:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 05 22:26:23 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 44.86994706 / 48.55677484 (no shares, 9,470.06 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 05 22:28:03 <Chaang-Noi>	39$ btc on btc-e
Mar 05 22:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	risk discount ?
Mar 05 22:29:01 <ThickAssLaptop>	sry guys, i hit the Buy $1m button by accident
Mar 05 22:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	dub why do you disparage reddit
Mar 05 22:29:09 <ThickAssLaptop>	my bad
Mar 05 22:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAssLaptop did it do anything ?
Mar 05 22:29:29 <ThickAssLaptop>	made price hit 45
Mar 05 22:29:35 <dub>	mircea_popescu: I don't pay much attention
Mar 05 22:29:40 *	mircea_popescu falls over laughing
Mar 05 22:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	fol > lol ftr.
Mar 05 22:29:53 <ThickAssLaptop>	looks like coinlabs ticker is not lagging
Mar 05 22:29:59 <Chaang-Noi>	the spread at btc-e is about $2 most of the time, but they get cash in via bitinstant, and that is fail
Mar 05 22:30:08 <ThickAssLaptop>	farting out loud?
Mar 05 22:30:10 <Chaang-Noi>	only way to get cash now is sell ltc for cash, lol
Mar 05 22:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	falling over
Mar 05 22:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi soo is ltc goingdown ?
Mar 05 22:30:28 <keith_hanson>	bitinstant was working for me a bit ago?
Mar 05 22:30:28 <dub>	are you folling at my expense?
Mar 05 22:30:48 <Chaang-Noi>	mo a but now yes, but its sill up 250% in 3 days
Mar 05 22:31:09 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck i cant type... mp yes, it is going down a bit now, but still well up
Mar 05 22:31:30 <Chaang-Noi>	18.5 cents to 16 cents cuz cheap ass btc
Mar 05 22:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	dub it happens to me when ppl push 1mn buttons
Mar 05 22:31:38 <Chaang-Noi>	39.5 still
Mar 05 22:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	still, it was 14 yest.
Mar 05 22:32:07 <ThickAssLaptop>	actually when i press it just tells me how many btc i wanna buy, 18889
Mar 05 22:32:18 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc was 7 cents on friday
Mar 05 22:32:23 <ThickAssLaptop>	and then they want my pph#
Mar 05 22:32:32 <Chaang-Noi>	i hold about 200k so im happy
Mar 05 22:32:36 <ThickAssLaptop>	i'm not even single
Mar 05 22:32:47 <mircea_popescu>	pph = Postpartum hemorrhage ?
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Mar 05 22:33:02 <ThickAssLaptop>	youve got my number
Mar 05 22:34:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23924296 = 239.243 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21423593 = 214.2359 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:34:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19195264 = 191.9526 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:36:16 <Chaang-Noi>	back to 43.. atleast i get to see it trade there :)
Mar 05 22:36:41 <keith_hanson>	I've never understood how people arbitrage across exchanges... doesn't the transfer of bitcoins from one account to the other take hours?
Mar 05 22:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.examiner.com/article/wash-state-bill-allows-police-to-search-students-without-parental-consent
Mar 05 22:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	that place srsly.
Mar 05 22:37:04 <ThickAssLaptop>	not hours
Mar 05 22:37:13 <mircea_popescu>	keith_hanson more like days.
Mar 05 22:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	also the fees.
Mar 05 22:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	so count two of us, i've never understood it either.
Mar 05 22:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 22:37:37 <ThickAssLaptop>	unless you are transferring from BTCT
Mar 05 22:37:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.33624, Best ask: 43.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.65376, Last trade: 43.99000, 24 hour volume: 102601.01478656, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.14144
Mar 05 22:37:48 <keith_hanson>	BTCT?
Mar 05 22:38:02 <ThickAssLaptop>	sry its sorta a joke
Mar 05 22:38:05 <ThickAssLaptop>	btct.co
Mar 05 22:38:08 <ThickAssLaptop>	is an exchange
Mar 05 22:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi the concern is that volume is still low
Mar 05 22:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	we've not seen it peak.
Mar 05 22:38:23 <ThickAssLaptop>	and they do manual withdrawals over like 5btc or so
Mar 05 22:38:37 <keith_hanson>	o.O
Mar 05 22:38:42 <dub>	I keep reading BCST instead of BTCT
Mar 05 22:39:02 <dub>	momentary WATing ensues
Mar 05 22:39:04 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah mo, im happy with anything over 25 really...
Mar 05 22:39:11 <Chaang-Noi>	mp i cant type for shit today...
Mar 05 22:39:40 <ThickAssLaptop>	i wanna buy in, but... shrug
Mar 05 22:40:36 <error4733>	33 to 45$ in 6 days ???
Mar 05 22:40:37 <dub>	im waiting for $2 again
Mar 05 22:40:37 <ThickAssLaptop>	;;asks 55
Mar 05 22:40:37 <gribble>	There are currently 16666.852 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 807037.068585 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.2206 seconds
Mar 05 22:40:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 05 22:40:44 <gribble>	Time since last block: 12 minutes and 17 seconds
Mar 05 22:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile... wtf. i thought it was 12th this week ?
Mar 05 22:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	where are the th!
Mar 05 22:40:57 <ThickAssLaptop>	;;estimate
Mar 05 22:41:03 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4749417.28355 based on data since last change | 4789887.21932 based on data for last three days
Mar 05 22:41:20 <ThickAssLaptop>	supposedly they added a few TH at ozcoin
Mar 05 22:41:44 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer is still kicking bfls ass:)
Mar 05 22:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	you know i suspect they've not been able to keep hash within 10% for six hour straight since the beginning of the month.
Mar 05 22:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	either their chips keep burning or software sucks or lots of overactive cats or wtf.
Mar 05 22:42:16 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi i have a dead fish in the fridge that's kicking bfl's ass.
Mar 05 22:42:31 <ThickAssLaptop>	lots of shaking things up to mask hashing for themselves
Mar 05 22:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAssLaptop wait wut ? it's asicminer's business model to mine for themsleves.
Mar 05 22:42:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i hope bfl fails just as hard
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Mar 05 22:43:10 <ThickAssLaptop>	you know what i mean tho
Mar 05 22:43:11 <Chaang-Noi>	hope only 5% of bfls chips work:)
Mar 05 22:43:20 <ThickAssLaptop>	backroom hashig
Mar 05 22:43:22 <ThickAssLaptop>	n
Mar 05 22:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 05 22:43:27 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Mar06 03:42:56 btce              1.1179 @    39.53       USD
Mar 05 22:43:32 <mircea_popescu>	they wouldn't do THAT now would they ?
Mar 05 22:43:32 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 05 22:43:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.50000, Best ask: 43.99000, Bid-ask spread: 1.49000, Last trade: 42.50000, 24 hour volume: 103543.75360681, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.17722
Mar 05 22:43:48 <ThickAssLaptop>	i mean WHY would they to THAT?
Mar 05 22:43:49 <error4733>	1.5$ spread lulz
Mar 05 22:43:50 <Chaang-Noi>	mp they own over half the company, i dont think they will cheat much...
Mar 05 22:44:13 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 looks like fiat supply problems
Mar 05 22:44:18 <ThickAssLaptop>	no way to know anyway
Mar 05 22:44:19 <Chaang-Noi>	he has like 60% he is going to be one rich motherfucker
Mar 05 22:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi if it ever gets to s,mpoe sort of market cap then yes.
Mar 05 22:44:44 <ThickAssLaptop>	maybe he wants to be two rich motherfuckers
Mar 05 22:46:10 <Chaang-Noi>	assuming they get 10% of the coins in one year his 60% share is about 79k btc
Mar 05 22:46:26 <Chaang-Noi>	3.5 million us dollars
Mar 05 22:46:39 <Chaang-Noi>	just 1 year, i doubt he will need to cheat
Mar 05 22:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.955 = 1.91 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:48:05 <ThickAssLaptop>	greed doesnt requir eneed
Mar 05 22:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.1921324 = 192.1324 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:48:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.2144312 = 214.4312 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23945589 = 239.4559 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:49:27 <keith_hanson>	Sorry if I keep asking basic questions, but I'm taking you up on the intelligent discussion :P I get asked a lot where the value is coming from, and the only real answer I have is the "black market"/SR. Is that the general opinion or am I misinformed?
Mar 05 22:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	you are misinformed.
Mar 05 22:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;google what are bitcoin market drivers
Mar 05 22:49:53 <gribble>	What are the Bitcoin market drivers ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/what-are-the-bitcoin-market-drivers/>; George Clooney roils the Bitcoin market | FT Alphaville: <http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2011/06/21/600441/george-clooney-roils-the-bitcoin-market/>; Bitcoin Exchange Scam – Bitcoins Are Now Worthless | NERDr.com: <http://nerdr.com (1 more message)
Mar 05 22:50:12 <keith_hanson>	Nice, thanks mircea_popescu
Mar 05 22:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	 “It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States.”
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Mar 05 22:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	the us attorney general delivers.
Mar 05 22:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	afaik it wasn't possible, under the constitution.
Mar 05 22:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.529 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:51:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.528 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	maybe we're reading different copies.
Mar 05 22:51:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5278 = 1.5834 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:51:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5275 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:51:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.526 = 2.63 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:51:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5252 = 1.0504 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:51:23 <ThickAssLaptop>	thats regarding drones?
Mar 05 22:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	well, it's regarding weaseling
Mar 05 22:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	but was brought about by drone discussion.
Mar 05 22:53:17 <ThickAssLaptop>	yes, we would like the convenience of attacking you with robots, let's keep that option open
Mar 05 22:54:01 <ThickAssLaptop>	we also want to wiretap so we can listen to your reaction lol
Mar 05 22:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 05 22:54:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.004551 = 0.4551 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00444446 = 0.4444 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00444444 = 4.4444 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:54:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7000 @ 0.0044444 = 31.1108 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 13031 @ 0.0044444 = 57.915 BTC [-]
Mar 05 22:54:53 <ThickAssLaptop>	bargain prices
Mar 05 22:55:29 <dub>	flushing the s.deuce
Mar 05 22:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Mar 05 22:56:24 <ThickAssLaptop>	it's the ghost of the 1st tranche
Mar 05 22:56:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21475103 = 214.751 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:56:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23980148 = 239.8015 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:56:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19242937 = 192.4294 BTC [+]
Mar 05 22:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	you suppose people are selling anything they can to get options funds ?
Mar 05 22:57:30 <ThickAssLaptop>	doesnt add up
Mar 05 22:57:35 <mircea_popescu>	yea indeed.
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Mar 05 23:00:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00568 = 0.568 BTC [-]
Mar 05 23:01:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19340518 = 193.4052 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.2157941 = 215.7941 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.24091935 = 240.9194 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:02:33 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 05 23:02:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 46.44009073 / 49.47150622 (no shares, 12,058.61 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 05 23:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	fun fact of the day : mpoe option book notional exposure passes 3mn usd.
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Mar 05 23:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	this is more than the combined total of all venture capital taken in by all bitcoin ventures iirc.
Mar 05 23:05:22 <ThickAssLaptop>	but coinlab
Mar 05 23:05:30 <mircea_popescu>	they got like 500k neh ?
Mar 05 23:05:36 <ThickAssLaptop>	thats it?
Mar 05 23:05:39 <mircea_popescu>	afaik.
Mar 05 23:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, just throwing that out there, see if anyone has better data.
Mar 05 23:05:55 <ThickAssLaptop>	how do get a deal with gox holding tht little
Mar 05 23:06:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 350 @ 0.00073 = 0.2555 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	they maybe had really good collectible cards ?
Mar 05 23:07:59 <Chaang-Noi>	mp ltc back over 28 cents, crazy
Mar 05 23:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	rising tide raises all boats
Mar 05 23:08:13 <mircea_popescu>	or so ppl hope maybe
Mar 05 23:08:26 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i dont know
Mar 05 23:08:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought it was way undervalued but this was one hell of a pop
Mar 05 23:08:45 <mircea_popescu>	4x
Mar 05 23:08:51 <ThickAssLaptop>	not 28
Mar 05 23:08:53 <ThickAssLaptop>	18
Mar 05 23:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5252 BTC [-]
Mar 05 23:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://falkvinge.net/2013/03/06/the-target-value-for-bitcoin-is-not-some-50-or-100-it-is-100000-to-1000000/#comment-111758
Mar 05 23:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol poor falkvinge
Mar 05 23:09:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i posted that here an hour ago:)
Mar 05 23:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	i know. and i commented
Mar 05 23:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	and then passed it along
Mar 05 23:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	and now he's being stomped like "gtfo, old news" etc.
Mar 05 23:10:16 <Chaang-Noi>	im using it to troll /g/ on 4chan they think bitcoin is a scam
Mar 05 23:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol something bawful is in a fret too
Mar 05 23:10:54 <mircea_popescu>	kinda funny being internet's cool kids, by 185 degrees of magnitude
Mar 05 23:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.2159899 = 215.9899 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:11:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.24113267 = 241.1327 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19358548 = 193.5855 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	"the buyings shall continue until morale improves"
Mar 05 23:11:44 <dub>	lol something bawful
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Mar 05 23:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, time for http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136254317934.jpg
Mar 05 23:13:29 <Chaang-Noi>	You don't have permission to access /dtng/c/src/136254317934.jpg on this server.
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Mar 05 23:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.5251 = 7.8765 BTC [-]
Mar 05 23:14:45 <Chaang-Noi>	https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32052146   if anyone wants to troll...
Mar 05 23:15:08 <Chaang-Noi>	. /g/ has been calling bitcoin a scam for years now... they missed the boat
Mar 05 23:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	"When is coinbase going to start selling bitcoins again? They've been "over their limit" for the past couple days."
Mar 05 23:15:36 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 05 23:16:58 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah.. its like the meme with fry holding the cash saying shut up and take my money...
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Mar 05 23:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 23:17:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.03099, Best ask: 43.37291, Bid-ask spread: 0.34192, Last trade: 42.99000, 24 hour volume: 104489.74859354, 24 hour low: 36.91110, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.28010
Mar 05 23:18:19 <ThickAssLaptop>	;;asks 69
Mar 05 23:18:19 <gribble>	There are currently 34857.932 bitcoins offered at or under 69.0 USD, worth 1979397.98148 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.1042 seconds
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Mar 05 23:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	so two button pushes
Mar 05 23:19:38 <ThickAssLaptop>	69 is top
Mar 05 23:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAssLaptop 69 is bottom for thick ass.
Mar 05 23:21:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 592 @ 0.21606942 = 127.9131 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:21:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 785 @ 0.19365695 = 152.0207 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:21:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 355 @ 0.24122141 = 85.6336 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	and we're sold out.
Mar 05 23:24:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 05 23:24:27 <gribble>	Time since last block: 19 minutes and 11 seconds
Mar 05 23:24:30 <mircea_popescu>	holy hell.
Mar 05 23:26:28 <ThickAssLaptop>	waiting forever for my deposit
Mar 05 23:27:46 <mircea_popescu>	ppl are wanting to buy options, i'm like... well i guess you might have sent it two hours ago but if it ain't confirmed it ain't confirmed.
Mar 05 23:27:54 <mircea_popescu>	the value of keeping your liquidity in the right places i guess.
Mar 05 23:28:35 <ThickAssLaptop>	indeed
Mar 05 23:29:17 <mircea_popescu>	this is officially the most exciting time of bitcoin i've ever lived.
Mar 05 23:31:38 <Chaang-Noi>	went to troll /g/      /g/ wants to buy... fuuuck what just happened....
Mar 05 23:32:02 <dub>	/g/ == ?
Mar 05 23:32:07 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc for the win, that is the fastness
Mar 05 23:32:20 <Chaang-Noi>	. /g/ on 4chan, said btc was a scam for years.. now they want to buy
Mar 05 23:32:26 <Chaang-Noi>	https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32052146
Mar 05 23:32:30 <dub>	yes, what is /g/
Mar 05 23:32:40 <dub>	no fucking way I am hitting 4chan from work
Mar 05 23:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	twink pron ?
Mar 05 23:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	g/ - Technology
Mar 05 23:33:29 <dub>	I was dude the other day with dog paw tattoo with TWINK under it, hope he never goes to teh states
Mar 05 23:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	why not ?
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Mar 05 23:34:21 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah dont go to 4chan at work,... even the calm and mostly safe /g/
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Mar 05 23:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	so eu stocks at 4 year high mark, dow is busting records
Mar 05 23:34:28 <dub>	he probbly doesnt know knwat twink means in teh states
Mar 05 23:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	btc goes up 50% in A DAY
Mar 05 23:34:40 <dub>	(its a brand name here)
Mar 05 23:34:43 <mircea_popescu>	clearly our idiotarian policymaker friends are doing things right.
Mar 05 23:34:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i get a truck, im happy
Mar 05 23:35:14 <mircea_popescu>	us inflation will be triple digit in 2013.
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Mar 05 23:38:03 <keith_hanson>	being a web developer, I want to take mtgox and overhaul their UI. Their new mobile site is atrocious.
Mar 05 23:38:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00075 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Mar 05 23:39:23 <dub>	just make a new exchange, gox is going to self destruct in a week anyway
Mar 05 23:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	replace week with a few months
Mar 05 23:40:04 <dub>	I thought migration to coinlol happens on the 12th
Mar 05 23:41:45 <ThickAssLaptop>	nite
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Mar 05 23:43:06 <keith_hanson>	mircea_popescu: uh, seriously? that's... concerning.
Mar 05 23:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	keith_hanson it is.
Mar 05 23:43:43 <keith_hanson>	mircea_popescu: What do you guys use then?
Mar 05 23:45:07 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 05 23:45:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 106697.45574715, 24 hour low: 36.93101, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.37604
Mar 05 23:45:16 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 45
Mar 05 23:45:16 <gribble>	There are currently 1236.3618 bitcoins offered at or under 45.0 USD, worth 55413.0152492 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.7067 seconds
Mar 05 23:45:26 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 50
Mar 05 23:45:26 <gribble>	There are currently 12874.465 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 614113.730099 USD in total. | Data vintage: 64.7913 seconds
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Mar 05 23:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	keith_hanson i don't use anything, not really buying.
Mar 05 23:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	when i do buy i use the otc.
Mar 05 23:51:47 <keith_hanson>	oh, wow. Didn't realize that existed :D
Mar 05 23:52:18 <keith_hanson>	I have learned more in an hour here than I have in months on reddit, bitcointalk, or any other web sources :P much appreciated
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Mar 05 23:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	you're welcome
Mar 05 23:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	the otc system revolves around the wot, ask gribble about that.
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Mar 05 23:54:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.12633113 = 31.5828 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 23:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 6 @ 0.12633113 = 0.758 BTC [+]
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Mar 05 23:57:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 05 23:57:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 107173.30759404, 24 hour low: 37.01715, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.42137
Mar 06 00:01:01 <Namworld>	We're going skyhigh
Mar 06 00:02:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 75 @ 0.15734141 = 11.8006 BTC
Mar 06 00:05:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19207 @ 0.00075 = 14.4053 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 00:08:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00450001 = 9 BTC [+]
Mar 06 00:09:00 <Namworld>	When people buy lots of options, usually a good time to buy S.MPOE
Mar 06 00:09:07 <maximian>	s.dice not so sky high
Mar 06 00:09:13 <Namworld>	Hmm, S.DICE going down down down
Mar 06 00:10:02 <maximian>	no buyers
Mar 06 00:10:33 <Namworld>	indeed, no buyers
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Mar 06 00:12:29 <maximian>	there's a big fat ask there at 0.0047
Mar 06 00:12:38 <maximian>	that would have gone in a flash last week I think
Mar 06 00:12:49 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 06 00:12:56 <Namworld>	that was before price skyrocketed
Mar 06 00:13:04 <Namworld>	Now everyone wants BTC in their hands
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Mar 06 00:14:36 <maximian>	makes sense
Mar 06 00:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00450001 = 4.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 00:16:36 <dub>	DT going on 'holiday' to italy
Mar 06 00:17:01 <Chaang-Noi>	crawling back up to 45...
Mar 06 00:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 06 00:17:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0044444 = 0.4444 BTC [-]
Mar 06 00:17:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00300001 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Mar 06 00:17:15 <dub>	praps catchign up with his best buddy alberto
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Mar 06 00:19:28 <pizzaman1337>	S.DICE trading at 0.00300001? gosh...
Mar 06 00:19:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00450001 = 0.45 BTC [+]
Mar 06 00:19:57 <dub>	what is surprising about that?
Mar 06 00:20:07 <pizzaman1337>	huge drop
Mar 06 00:21:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 863500 @ 0.00075 = 647.625 BTC [+]
Mar 06 00:22:12 <Namworld>	Only 100 traded that low
Mar 06 00:22:17 <maximian>	MPOE is in demand, on the other hand
Mar 06 00:22:35 <Namworld>	Of course, lots of options being traded
Mar 06 00:22:45 <maximian>	even though its divs performance is consistently worse than s.dice's
Mar 06 00:23:17 <maximian>	like way worse
Mar 06 00:23:56 <maximian>	it must be a confidence thing. perhaps people have little faith that s.dice will be around long term.
Mar 06 00:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 175000 @ 0.00075 = 131.25 BTC [+]
Mar 06 00:24:10 <Namworld>	I guess if you consider MPEx's track record and long term, if people expect Bitcoins to become mainstream and MPEx to retain it's #1 position to trade assets...
Mar 06 00:24:15 <dub>	maximian: or that there won't be any more surprise share splits
Mar 06 00:24:36 <Chaang-Noi>	dice at .003? id buy at that price some...
Mar 06 00:24:41 <Namworld>	Well S.MPOE could dramatically improve with a majority of assets trading moving to MPEx
Mar 06 00:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 4000 @ 0.0015 = 6 BTC [-]
Mar 06 00:25:12 <dub>	Namworld: why would htat affect s.mpe?
Mar 06 00:25:14 <Chaang-Noi>	asic miner is the next big hot trader i bet
Mar 06 00:25:24 <maximian>	actually, MP has regularly dumped mpoe shares as well, but he did it differently: he placed large asks well above the market price
Mar 06 00:25:28 <maximian>	so nobody cared
Mar 06 00:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	maximian actually more an attempt to keep it from bubbling up than anything.
Mar 06 00:26:02 <maximian>	evoorhees, on the other hand, sold way below market price for some crazy unfathomable reason, which was a big WTF
Mar 06 00:26:19 <maximian>	evoorhees could have done the same
Mar 06 00:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	i think the fact that mpoe/mpex can't have a lossy month for shareholders may be a factor.
Mar 06 00:26:27 <dub>	yes but he's an idiot
Mar 06 00:26:31 <maximian>	but oh well. it shook a lot of people's confidence.
Mar 06 00:26:45 <Namworld>	dub: fees?
Mar 06 00:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	if people are thinking "s.dice has consistantly been over EV" it may be a consideration.
Mar 06 00:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	tho tbh... it doesn't seem to account for the disparity.
Mar 06 00:27:18 <dub>	Namworld: I didn't know fees contributed to s.mpoe, its not just the options?
Mar 06 00:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	dub http://polimedia.us/trilema/mpoe-february-2013-statement
Mar 06 00:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	Revenue from sales fee : 187.80380028 BTC (Total trade : 93`901.90014227 BTC)
Mar 06 00:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	Revenue from new accounts : 70 BTC
Mar 06 00:28:00 <maximian>	I think people know that mope is here to stay, but there's a lot of uncertainty around s.dice
Mar 06 00:28:24 <maximian>	and unfortunately, evoorhees is distracted with conferences and his other hobbies
Mar 06 00:28:26 <mircea_popescu>	maximian ironically enough s.mpoe shares were bought as low as 2k satoshi.
Mar 06 00:28:33 <Namworld>	no, fees, options, incorrect deposits, etc
Mar 06 00:28:36 <dub>	so they do
Mar 06 00:28:45 <Namworld>	It's all of MPEx's income, really
Mar 06 00:29:10 <pigeons>	lol incorrect deposits
Mar 06 00:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	ftr an incorrect deposit has yet to make it to shareholders. there was a grand total of like, 1 so far.
Mar 06 00:29:56 <Namworld>	good to know that people with enough BTC to trade on MPEx can manage not to screw up deposits.
Mar 06 00:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, s.dice has so far paid ~50k satoshi per share in dividends to s.mpoe's ~2k
Mar 06 00:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	yet their marketcaps are like 2:1 in favour of s.mpoe
Mar 06 00:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	on a strictly dividend basis of accounting it's a huge gap.
Mar 06 00:32:37 <maximian>	it's a stark difference
Mar 06 00:32:44 <mircea_popescu>	so there must be other factors
Mar 06 00:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	course if you think about it, a corp that issues 10% divs a year is not automatically better than one that issues 3%
Mar 06 00:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	irl i mean
Mar 06 00:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	actually i'd be much surprised if the average retail investor could even tell you what dividend his portofolio paid
Mar 06 00:35:42 <Namworld>	Coca-Cola has low yearly yield.
Mar 06 00:35:45 <maximian>	not if everyone expects it to flame out early
Mar 06 00:36:05 <Namworld>	I think. Still great stock. Stable, very old company. Popular as ever.
Mar 06 00:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	maximian i guess maybe that's it, in spite of early explosive success people expect it to flame
Mar 06 00:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	or maybe not in spite.
Mar 06 00:36:57 <Namworld>	There's a few multinationals like that with low yield and high demand. Safety and stability are good to consider.
Mar 06 00:37:44 <maximian>	yep, high uncertainty over its future: can it maintain its market share, will evoorhees get arrested, etc
Mar 06 00:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	course there's another thing : on the strength of the book so far, s.mpoe could walk home with 20-30k btc.
Mar 06 00:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	motnh has barely started.
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Mar 06 00:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	on the strength of the action so far, s.dice is ahead what, 2k yet ?
Mar 06 00:38:36 <maximian>	yeah, amazing
Mar 06 00:38:53 <maximian>	s.dice not doing so well so far this month, but that's to be expected now and then
Mar 06 00:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	so maybe that's what's driving prices really
Mar 06 00:39:15 <maximian>	nobody had a problem back in november when s.dice paid zero
Mar 06 00:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	the immediate outlook. "shot at 20-30k with no downside" vs "not so great, maybe 2k, maybe negative"
Mar 06 00:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	thus one goes 65 to 75 the other 62 to 45
Mar 06 00:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	maximian yeah but investor composition changed a lot, lots of pt holders,
Mar 06 00:39:50 <mircea_popescu>	lots of small holders
Mar 06 00:39:52 <maximian>	yep, I agree
Mar 06 00:39:54 <mircea_popescu>	those are always volatile
Mar 06 00:40:03 <maximian>	true
Mar 06 00:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 06 00:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00300001 / 0.0046852 / 0.00579999 (39585 shares, 185.46 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.0058052 / 0.0063799 (554773 shares, 3,220.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00589794 / 0.007395 (6726620 shares, 39,673.22 BTC)
Mar 06 00:40:31 <mircea_popescu>	day's volume is 200 btc. that's not much really.
Mar 06 00:41:38 <maximian>	evoorhees has to get cracking and start promoting this thing again!
Mar 06 00:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	he was saying something about irl gambling deal.
Mar 06 00:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	course he's been saying that for a while
Mar 06 00:42:41 <maximian>	It wasn't clear that he was talking about s.dice, but it would be nice if he's hinting at an acquisition or partnership
Mar 06 00:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 00:43:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.20000, Best ask: 44.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 44.15000, 24 hour volume: 108129.84604915, 24 hour low: 37.41306, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.54922
Mar 06 00:43:35 <maximian>	imo, the best case scenario for s.dice is an acquisition by a big player looking for a quick entrance into btcland
Mar 06 00:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 46852 * 40.55
Mar 06 00:43:36 <gribble>	1899848.6
Mar 06 00:43:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00075 = 13.425 BTC [+]
Mar 06 00:43:55 <mircea_popescu>	19 mn or so are certainly nothing for sometyhing like s,dice
Mar 06 00:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	so a deal will prolly be a nice payout for btc shareholders.
Mar 06 00:44:05 <maximian>	exactly
Mar 06 00:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	course, it has to happen first.
Mar 06 00:44:27 <maximian>	tremendous mindshare/brand awareness for a bargain price of 19-20m
Mar 06 00:44:29 <mircea_popescu>	but i can see erik reasonably walking away from anything under 100mn total
Mar 06 00:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	which you know... would be a 500% gain
Mar 06 00:44:52 <maximian>	yep, it's a possibility, and I believe he's the kind of guy who could pull it off.
Mar 06 00:44:55 <pigeons>	spam detected
Mar 06 00:45:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 500 @ 0.17591975 = 87.9599 BTC [+]
Mar 06 00:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine he's pretty motivated to do it too.
Mar 06 00:46:11 <mircea_popescu>	no better way to showcase btc success than a successful exit for him.
Mar 06 00:47:33 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144611.msg1585748#msg1585748
Mar 06 00:48:18 <Namworld>	I think the current success would be shorting your BTC for USD
Mar 06 00:48:24 <Namworld>	Buy back later at a lower price
Mar 06 00:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	you can sell calls short which would be doing exactly that.
Mar 06 00:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	but it'd take a brave man.
Mar 06 00:49:59 <Namworld>	eh, none of that for me
Mar 06 00:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	I think 67117 is  proxy pool. The hash output is always simillar to SLUSH's. SLUSH has 2.6% rejection rate -they obviusly  proxy pooling. Still not real proof of working ASIC.
Mar 06 00:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Mar 06 00:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	anyone rthat understands mining, how sensible is that ?
Mar 06 00:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	specifically, how traceable is hashing based on the reject rate ?
Mar 06 00:51:52 <Namworld>	network hashing is estimated based on blocks found...
Mar 06 00:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	no i mean
Mar 06 00:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	obviously i can set up a mining pool account and proxy other peoples mining there.
Mar 06 00:52:30 <mircea_popescu>	question is, can this be at all traced based on some qualities of the hash flux
Mar 06 00:53:43 <Namworld>	Not sure how it works.
Mar 06 00:53:47 <Chaang-Noi>	sales on gox slowed
Mar 06 00:53:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 00:53:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.12509, Bid-ask spread: 0.12509, Last trade: 43.66490, 24 hour volume: 108414.79454220, 24 hour low: 37.41306, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.57198
Mar 06 00:54:03 <Namworld>	about time it slowed a bit...
Mar 06 00:54:17 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 06 00:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	108k is some decent volume anyway
Mar 06 00:58:51 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, it occurs to me, this is the right time to get hacked right ?
Mar 06 00:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.49100001 = 22.095 BTC [-]
Mar 06 00:59:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.491 BTC [-]
Mar 06 00:59:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4682 = 4.682 BTC [-]
Mar 06 00:59:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4681 = 0.9362 BTC [-]
Mar 06 00:59:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4674 = 0.9348 BTC [-]
Mar 06 00:59:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4588 BTC [-]
Mar 06 00:59:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.4511 = 8.1198 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:00:31 <aiball>	mr. p. I'd say that's the biggest wild card at the moment - a high profile hack.  your shit is safe right?
Mar 06 01:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	aiball as safe as i know how to make it.
Mar 06 01:02:10 <aiball>	do you know what's wrong with s.dice price?  is this just a dollar based stock?
Mar 06 01:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	if you read history it's been discussed just hourish ago
Mar 06 01:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1586172#msg1586172 lmao
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Mar 06 01:08:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.63494 = 1.9048 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	"If you're looking for a loan for  Bitcoin Poker at Seals, let me know."
Mar 06 01:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	how does that work ? paid if the op wins only ?
Mar 06 01:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	"I notice there are some BTC bookies. So I thought I would help bettors win more bets. I began betting on sports back in December 2012 with a nice record so far. "
Mar 06 01:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	jumpin' jesus  on a stick, three months is now a track record ;/
Mar 06 01:11:49 <mircea_popescu>	haha check this out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149496.msg1587971#msg1587971 the whale emerges.
Mar 06 01:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 516 @ 0.00073315 = 0.3783 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11784 @ 0.00073156 = 8.6207 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 01:16:54 <mod6>	well -assets, its been an exciting day!
Mar 06 01:17:28 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 06 01:21:02 <mod6>	s.dice has had an interesting ride into divs, and even after... seems to be doing the inverse of what you would expect.
Mar 06 01:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	nn mod6
Mar 06 01:23:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
Mar 06 01:23:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 98 @ 0.00999 = 0.979 BTC [+]
Mar 06 01:23:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00300002 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:24:35 <BitHub>	its amazing the amount of amatures that i come across sometimes, they dont even have a business plan or anything and think they're going to land on an exchange or PT and be taken seriously?
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Mar 06 01:25:06 <Chaang-Noi>	got security cams on my house, pretty need seeing my yard from my phone:)
Mar 06 01:25:11 <Chaang-Noi>	neat*
Mar 06 01:25:22 <mod6>	lol from your phone even 'eh?
Mar 06 01:25:32 <mod6>	BitHub: well, we all have to start somewhere.
Mar 06 01:25:46 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, had no idea it could do that but hell, same price
Mar 06 01:26:00 <BitHub>	I know, i'm about 6 months old and i wouldn't even consider doing it yet
Mar 06 01:26:18 <mod6>	too many amatures not enough pros, too many bitches, not enough ho's...
Mar 06 01:26:24 <Chaang-Noi>	got 4 rotts to garud the house, neighbors start to fuck with the rotts... so i get video camerias to protect the rotts, fucking crazy
Mar 06 01:26:35 <BitHub>	i met this guy maybe a month into it? no business plan, its crazy
Mar 06 01:26:45 <BitHub>	no sales?
Mar 06 01:26:49 <Chaang-Noi>	and i need a truck for the rotts... cuz 4 large dogs are big... but its good cuz the rotts can gaurd the truck... fucking crazy
Mar 06 01:26:55 <BitHub>	how do you value your company without sales?
Mar 06 01:27:03 <mod6>	rotts are supposed to be awesome dogs.
Mar 06 01:27:26 <Chaang-Noi>	they are really good, have 3 females and a male, im breeding them
Mar 06 01:27:31 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc back to 20 cetns lol
Mar 06 01:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 270 @ 0.17776447 = 47.9964 BTC [+]
Mar 06 01:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.0046 = 4.37 BTC [+]
Mar 06 01:28:02 <Chaang-Noi>	bid is at .003 for dice ask is .0045? massive spread?
Mar 06 01:28:08 <mircea_popescu>	<mod6> too many amatures not enough pros, too many bitches, not enough ho's... << good one
Mar 06 01:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	it's spelled amateurs tho
Mar 06 01:28:23 <mod6>	eek! my bad.
Mar 06 01:28:54 <mircea_popescu>	i liked that line enough im now digging to find who the fuck came up with it
Mar 06 01:28:55 <mircea_popescu>	loverance ?
Mar 06 01:29:45 <mod6>	its an old ludacris song
Mar 06 01:30:19 <mod6>	lol and i mis-remembered how it goes
Mar 06 01:30:42 <Chaang-Noi>	who wants to be coinabul gets scammer tag? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149253.20;topicseen
Mar 06 01:30:51 <Chaang-Noi>	they cant send the silver cuz they will lose money
Mar 06 01:31:28 <mod6>	"i hate it when its too many niggas, not enough hoes, too many rookies, not enough pros!"
Mar 06 01:31:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4 @ 0.0046 = 0.0184 BTC [+]
Mar 06 01:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 your mistaken version was better
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Mar 06 01:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi he's not getting it what, are you kidding ?
Mar 06 01:32:26 <eeeCurrencyDotCo>	lookin for mah man Mircea!
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Mar 06 01:32:43 <Chaang-Noi>	he is saying he cant give the silver because he would run out of money
Mar 06 01:32:55 <Chaang-Noi>	he admits the guy paid for it
Mar 06 01:33:07 <Chaang-Noi>	and coinibul fucked up on insurance...
Mar 06 01:33:17 <mod6>	coingenuity?! say it aint so!?
Mar 06 01:33:25 *	mod6 reads
Mar 06 01:33:27 <Chaang-Noi>	how can someone who as been in btc land so long be so fucking poor?
Mar 06 01:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.00073156 = 0.597 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1030 @ 0.00073043 = 0.7523 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7259 @ 0.00073042 = 5.3021 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	what i got from the digest was, customer paid, provider shipped, insurance blew up.
Mar 06 01:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	why's provider getting a scammer tag again ?
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Mar 06 01:33:57 <Chaang-Noi>	fail to insure it correctly
Mar 06 01:34:04 <mircea_popescu>	what's that mean ?
Mar 06 01:34:08 <Chaang-Noi>	correct insurance was paid for but not recived
Mar 06 01:34:39 <eeeCurrencyDotCo>	Mircea, its' peter from eee - you sent me a link to chat with you here.
Mar 06 01:34:42 <Chaang-Noi>	if i send you a gold bar and tell you it is insured and you pay a fee for that, but it is not insured then its a scam
Mar 06 01:34:42 <mircea_popescu>	as in, they insured the wrong item ?
Mar 06 01:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	hello eeeCurrencyDotCo
Mar 06 01:34:59 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi but it was insured neh ?
Mar 06 01:35:06 <Chaang-Noi>	it seems they did not insure the item in the correct way, coinibul fucked up
Mar 06 01:35:16 <Chaang-Noi>	it was not insured correctly
Mar 06 01:35:26 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean correctly ? like they insured the wrong item or soemthing ?
Mar 06 01:35:28 <Chaang-Noi>	if i ship you a gold bar, but insure a taco... its a scam
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Mar 06 01:35:52 <Chaang-Noi>	the insureance company said the item was not insured even thought coinibal did pay a fee
Mar 06 01:36:04 <Chaang-Noi>	coinibul did not read the fine print
Mar 06 01:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	so how's that on him lol.
Mar 06 01:36:16 <eeeCurrencyDotCo>	:) (hi everybody) - I'm here for a specific reason, but I saw someone mention insurance. is there someone offering insurance on btc? I had ben contemplating getting my US license to offer to be an insurance broker and perhaps do somethng
Mar 06 01:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	if you give me a hundred bucks to give to mod6 for towing your car
Mar 06 01:36:29 <mircea_popescu>	and i give him 100 but he doesn't tow your car
Mar 06 01:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	well.., talk to mod6
Mar 06 01:36:34 <Chaang-Noi>	if i send you a car from thailand and insure it, but fine print says we dont insure cars whos fault is it?
Mar 06 01:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	haha that's ridiculous. so are they dropping that insurer now ?
Mar 06 01:37:03 <Chaang-Noi>	but mp i paid you a preiumuim to do the insurance for me...
Mar 06 01:37:18 <Chaang-Noi>	yes mp they did a differnt insurance company cuz turned out they did not have insurance
Mar 06 01:37:24 <Chaang-Noi>	they moved
Mar 06 01:37:33 <mod6>	i would guess yah, just change insuance co's and that should set it right.
Mar 06 01:37:38 <Chaang-Noi>	but coinibul still fucked up, the buyer is not at fault here
Mar 06 01:37:52 <Chaang-Noi>	well, one guy is out of 80 btc worht of silver
Mar 06 01:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	well for all you know buyer got the silver
Mar 06 01:37:55 <eeeCurrencyDotCo>	isn't the liability on the person with the implied or definitive contract?
Mar 06 01:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, these word against word things are difficult to break up
Mar 06 01:38:07 <Chaang-Noi>	package never arived
Mar 06 01:38:09 <mod6>	yeah :/
Mar 06 01:38:13 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi so the guy says
Mar 06 01:38:15 <Chaang-Noi>	they have tracking to priove buyer never got package
Mar 06 01:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	other guy says package was sent
Mar 06 01:38:23 <Chaang-Noi>	coinibul posted tracking number
Mar 06 01:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 06 01:38:27 <eeeCurrencyDotCo>	if you contract with person a and bring person b in to it, isnt the contract with person a, not b?
Mar 06 01:38:29 <Chaang-Noi>	conibul said it got lost in customs
Mar 06 01:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	so then wait. if package never arrived it's the post ?
Mar 06 01:38:43 <Chaang-Noi>	post or customs stole it, yeah
Mar 06 01:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	ah it's one of those
Mar 06 01:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	ya those never end up well.
Mar 06 01:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	still. customs should get the tag.
Mar 06 01:39:01 <Chaang-Noi>	so buy was like wtf, i want silver
Mar 06 01:39:10 <Chaang-Noi>	the coinibul was like sorry, silver not insured, fuck off
Mar 06 01:39:21 <mircea_popescu>	nobody insures against customs confiscations.
Mar 06 01:39:22 <eeeCurrencyDotCo>	ups just delivered a package today and left it with no sig - who should replace the loss? ups or the shipper?
Mar 06 01:39:54 <Chaang-Noi>	if there is insurance they need to cover it, but if it was sold as insured and not insured its a fucking scam
Mar 06 01:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	i guess this is why i am not in the business of delivering bullion to the retail postage market.
Mar 06 01:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	sucks for margins, sucks for operations, sucks all around.
Mar 06 01:40:11 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah... reading fine print help...
Mar 06 01:40:14 <BitHub>	yep
Mar 06 01:40:34 <Chaang-Noi>	but jesus he willl destroy his rep for 80 btc saying he has no money to give the guy silver,,, how can he be so poor and be in btc that long...
Mar 06 01:40:43 <BitHub>	need in house vaults
Mar 06 01:40:44 <mod6>	well, who knows dude.
Mar 06 01:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi it's liability management
Mar 06 01:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	if he does this then he's going to have a rash of people trying it.
Mar 06 01:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	don't underestimate the interwebs slave culture.
Mar 06 01:41:10 <Chaang-Noi>	the buyer has proof he never got the shit...
Mar 06 01:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	people will do incredible things for pennies.
Mar 06 01:41:27 <BitHub>	i hope coinabul works it out :) seems like a good kind
Mar 06 01:41:32 <Chaang-Noi>	the buyer could not have scammed here
Mar 06 01:41:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i ordered from coinibul myself once, ill never do it again...
Mar 06 01:41:55 <BitHub>	but you two are like broooos
Mar 06 01:42:01 <Chaang-Noi>	and that was cuz he fucked my order up, not this
Mar 06 01:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:42:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0035 = 0.35 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:42:47 <eeeCurrencyDotCo>	Mircea, when is a good time to come back and chat with you about setting up an exchange, or becoming a broker, or getting listed?
Mar 06 01:42:51 <mod6>	well, personally, i think its a cool business (many others think its pretty neat-o too), I hope he gets it squared away.
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Mar 06 01:43:50 *	mod6 has never ordered, but nearly has about 200x
Mar 06 01:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	eeeCurrencyDotCo now is fine
Mar 06 01:44:13 <mircea_popescu>	you go /query mircea_popescu to talk in private.
Mar 06 01:44:21 <BitHub>	aww
Mar 06 01:44:26 <eeeCurrencyDotCo>	Thanks
Mar 06 01:44:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol is that the mtgox 1satoshi bot pushing the s.dice down ?
Mar 06 01:46:06 <maximian>	Hey, at least there's some action!
Mar 06 01:48:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136255249324.png "plz to insert buttcoinz"
Mar 06 01:48:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0046 BTC [+]
Mar 06 01:49:25 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Mar 06 01:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	what, you slept ?!
Mar 06 01:50:02 <kakobrekla>	myeah
Mar 06 01:50:06 <kakobrekla>	it sucks!
Mar 06 01:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 06 01:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0046 BTC [+]
Mar 06 01:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	so runup to 45, retrace to 44, back for another go
Mar 06 01:54:00 <kakobrekla>	;;stats
Mar 06 01:54:00 <gribble>	I have 16 registered users with 21 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
Mar 06 01:54:05 <kakobrekla>	no that u silly
Mar 06 01:54:07 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 06 01:54:09 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 224491 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1300 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 21 hours, 41 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4775657.49997 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.33592
Mar 06 01:54:14 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 06 01:54:17 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 06 01:54:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.34351, Best ask: 44.68217, Bid-ask spread: 0.33866, Last trade: 44.68217, 24 hour volume: 105246.62244956, 24 hour low: 37.72771, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.78103
Mar 06 01:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	16 users, that little ?>!
Mar 06 01:54:20 <gribble>	1 BTC = 44.68217 U.S. dollars = 34.1999005 Euros
Mar 06 01:54:37 <kakobrekla>	damn.
Mar 06 01:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla recall what you said about btc ?
Mar 06 01:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	YOU WERE WRONG. it's not 32, its 34.
Mar 06 01:55:03 <kakobrekla>	dunn o said a lot of stuff
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Mar 06 01:55:34 <kakobrekla>	ah ah
Mar 06 01:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 06 01:55:39 <kakobrekla>	:DD
Mar 06 01:55:47 <kakobrekla>	i said 33 then.
Mar 06 01:55:55 <kakobrekla>	close eh?
Mar 06 01:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	yeah lol
Mar 06 01:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	you should start a subscrtiption service.
Mar 06 01:56:12 <kakobrekla>	hahah
Mar 06 01:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	"i'ma go take a piss. by the time im back, btc is 1 ford escort per"
Mar 06 01:56:38 <kakobrekla>	:DDDDDD
Mar 06 01:56:47 <mircea_popescu>	then it turns true and everyone is "buy kakobrekla escorts"
Mar 06 01:56:50 <kakobrekla>	"and i havent pissed in a long while"
Mar 06 01:57:05 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Mar 06 02:03:59 <[\\\]>	so when's the correction?
Mar 06 02:04:13 <kakobrekla>	you mean the 100$?
Mar 06 02:04:15 <Chaang-Noi>	after 125
Mar 06 02:04:17 <kakobrekla>	need to wait a bit more
Mar 06 02:04:29 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] the way my book is loaded if we go back to 30 im'a be floating in a pond of btc
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Mar 06 02:06:35 <Chaang-Noi>	fuuuuck 45.77
Mar 06 02:06:44 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 06 02:06:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.50000, Best ask: 44.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 45.77190, 24 hour volume: 105273.67523350, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 45.77190, 24 hour vwap: 40.95523
Mar 06 02:07:02 <Chaang-Noi>	lo wat?
Mar 06 02:07:14 <kakobrekla>	no, its hi wat.
Mar 06 02:07:15 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 06 02:07:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.50000, Best ask: 44.56634, Bid-ask spread: 0.06634, Last trade: 44.56634, 24 hour volume: 105176.47600550, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 45.77190, 24 hour vwap: 40.95719
Mar 06 02:07:45 <Chaang-Noi>	amphipod> Mar06 07:05:44 mtgox    x221 1,000.0000 @ 4,319.05105821 JPY
Mar 06 02:07:49 <Chaang-Noi>	it was in yen
Mar 06 02:07:52 <Chaang-Noi>	lol fuck
Mar 06 02:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 06 02:08:21 <Namworld>	;;ticker yen
Mar 06 02:08:21 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Mar 06 02:08:41 <Namworld>	;;ticker JPY
Mar 06 02:08:41 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Mar 06 02:08:54 <Namworld>	;;ticker --JPY
Mar 06 02:08:55 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Mar 06 02:09:13 <Namworld>	;;ticker --currency JPY
Mar 06 02:09:13 <gribble>	BTCJPY ticker | Best bid: 4200.899, Best ask: 4292.351, Bid-ask spread: 91.45200, Last trade: 4371.772, 24 hour volume: 5026.74060167, 24 hour low: 3531.751, 24 hour high: 4371.772, 24 hour vwap: 4236.634
Mar 06 02:14:03 <mod6>	did i just see that right?
Mar 06 02:14:06 <mod6>	nearly hit 46
Mar 06 02:14:07 <mod6>	;;ticker
Mar 06 02:14:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.60001, Best ask: 44.94191, Bid-ask spread: 0.34190, Last trade: 44.51434, 24 hour volume: 105828.92739695, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 45.98000, 24 hour vwap: 41.05239
Mar 06 02:14:16 <Chaang-Noi>	in yen not usd
Mar 06 02:14:36 <mod6>	;;asks 46
Mar 06 02:14:37 <gribble>	There are currently 573.51808 bitcoins offered at or under 46.0 USD, worth 26378.2569228 USD in total. | Data vintage: 69.3444 seconds
Mar 06 02:14:44 <Chaang-Noi>	it looks to me like mt gox is bidding this shit up...
Mar 06 02:14:45 <mod6>	o thats why
Mar 06 02:14:58 <mod6>	just only 573 to 46 USD
Mar 06 02:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.50000001 BTC [+]
Mar 06 02:15:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:15:09 <[\\\]>	You know, I'm surprised people don't bring that up more
Mar 06 02:15:20 <mod6>	Chaang-Noi: yeah
Mar 06 02:15:20 <[\\\]>	mtgox has a vested interest in having the price of bitcoin go up
Mar 06 02:15:22 <Chaang-Noi>	no one cares
Mar 06 02:15:26 <[\\\]>	since they charge half their fees in btc
Mar 06 02:15:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00667 BTC [+]
Mar 06 02:15:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 54 @ 0.00666 = 0.3596 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:15:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 19 @ 0.0066 = 0.1254 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:15:45 <Chaang-Noi>	went from 12 to 45, now the public is buying... i dont give a fuck if it is gox or not, but i bet it is partly them...
Mar 06 02:15:58 <kakobrekla>	[\\\], depends on your settings
Mar 06 02:16:13 <Chaang-Noi>	you know the gox people are old timers who have a shit load of btc... lose some fiat, make massive gain in btc...
Mar 06 02:16:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i do that in ltc at time...   pump and dump
Mar 06 02:16:23 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] everyone does, tho.
Mar 06 02:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	the thing with btc is that it's useful worth 1 unit at a market cap < 1bn, and worth significantly more than 10 units at a market cap > 10bn
Mar 06 02:17:49 <[\\\]>	kakobrekla, what do you mean?
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Mar 06 02:18:07 <kakobrekla>	[\\\] you can set it so fees are taken from fiat side only
Mar 06 02:18:24 <[\\\]>	yeah, but you still pay the same amount
Mar 06 02:18:30 <kakobrekla>	in dollars
Mar 06 02:18:35 <[\\\]>	they just take the equivalent amount in USD
Mar 06 02:18:36 <kakobrekla>	or whatever
Mar 06 02:18:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i quit?
Mar 06 02:18:43 <[\\\]>	it is still the same fee
Mar 06 02:18:45 <kakobrekla>	so it doesnt matter if btc goes up for them
Mar 06 02:18:50 <kakobrekla>	if they have ur dollars
Mar 06 02:19:17 <[\\\]>	taking a fee of .5% of a $30 btc vs a $5 btc
Mar 06 02:19:42 <Chaang-Noi>	if i have 1,000,000 btc and it costs me 1,000,000 fiat to move the price from $15 to $30 then i spend 1 million to get 15 million...
Mar 06 02:19:49 <kakobrekla>	ya but its 30 000 usd not 5 000 usd
Mar 06 02:20:04 <[\\\]>	that isn't a yeah but
Mar 06 02:20:07 <[\\\]>	you're making my point
Mar 06 02:20:26 <kakobrekla>	you are moving more fiat
Mar 06 02:20:30 <kakobrekla>	ofc there will be more fee
Mar 06 02:20:32 <[\\\]>	regardless of how you express it, they're getting more USD
Mar 06 02:20:32 <kakobrekla>	halooo
Mar 06 02:21:04 <[\\\]>	they're still moving the same amount of btc, why should the fee go up? ;)
Mar 06 02:21:46 <kakobrekla>	casuse its more dwollars
Mar 06 02:22:22 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Mar06 07:21:21 mtgox     x62   414.2822 @    45.90051627 USD
Mar 06 02:22:22 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Mar06 07:21:21 mtgox     x66   532.4452 @ 4,387.21444939 JPY
Mar 06 02:23:28 <Chaang-Noi>	946... maybe out of money?
Mar 06 02:23:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00568 = 0.0454 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 02:23:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.44733, Best ask: 45.68716, Bid-ask spread: 0.23983, Last trade: 45.44733, 24 hour volume: 106156.27636265, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.11371
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Mar 06 02:24:18 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 06 02:24:19 <gribble>	1 BTC = 45.68716 U.S. dollars = 34.8251848 Euros
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Mar 06 02:25:46 <Chaang-Noi>	46 lol almost
Mar 06 02:25:48 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 06 02:25:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.67000, Best ask: 45.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.31000, Last trade: 45.98000, 24 hour volume: 106101.67272176, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.12159
Mar 06 02:26:05 <Chaang-Noi>	oh shit we killed 46 already
Mar 06 02:26:12 <[\\\]>	red bold text makes for easy reading: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75802.msg1589202#msg1589202
Mar 06 02:26:33 <mircea_popescu>	noway
Mar 06 02:26:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 02:26:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.67000, Best ask: 45.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.31000, Last trade: 45.98000, 24 hour volume: 106146.37381511, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.12535
Mar 06 02:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	dude this needs to simmer down
Mar 06 02:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	i need to go shower, get laid, do human stuff
Mar 06 02:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	i can't be spending my days watching the screens ;/
Mar 06 02:27:25 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i hear ya... girls dont like giving bjs when you look at charts...
Mar 06 02:29:01 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos has some tricky shit dealing with glbse and scammer tags
Mar 06 02:29:23 <Chaang-Noi>	he has to be careful or he will need to give him self a few lol
Mar 06 02:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	girls don't mind, that's what slavery was invented for.
Mar 06 02:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	however, i mind.
Mar 06 02:30:58 <Chaang-Noi>	i at this time do not have a slave.
Mar 06 02:32:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:32:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 99 @ 0.0035 = 0.3465 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:34:03 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 50
Mar 06 02:34:08 <gribble>	There are currently 11272.36 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 542707.482662 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Mar 06 02:34:33 <Chaang-Noi>	at this rate we will be at $50 this time tomorrow
Mar 06 02:36:03 <Chaang-Noi>	oh shit, just found 5000 ltc i forgot about
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Mar 06 02:44:08 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 06 02:44:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.00100, Best ask: 46.41402, Bid-ask spread: 0.41302, Last trade: 46.00000, 24 hour volume: 107455.02852074, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.49000, 24 hour vwap: 41.24338
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Mar 06 02:45:45 <Namworld>	bwuahahaha
Mar 06 02:46:25 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 06 02:46:29 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc over 20 cetns too
Mar 06 02:46:57 <Namworld>	So that's a $1000 you just found
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Mar 06 02:47:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i was checking old wallets
Mar 06 02:47:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i knew where it was, but i forgot it had coin in it
Mar 06 02:47:48 <Chaang-Noi>	thought id check cuz new hights...
Mar 06 02:50:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.005401 = 0.054 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:50:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0054 = 0.0162 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:51:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00502 = 0.1255 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:51:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0053 = 0.53 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:51:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 92 @ 0.005 = 0.46 BTC [-]
Mar 06 02:54:47 <Chaang-Noi>	dice trades for .0035 on exchange pt is .0054? lol
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Mar 06 02:59:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 84 @ 0.65 = 54.6 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 03:01:06 <Namworld>	PTs lag behind a bit.
Mar 06 03:04:37 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Mar06 07:48:37 bitfloor          6.3606 @    48.49       USD
Mar 06 03:04:46 <Chaang-Noi>	seems bullish
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Mar 06 03:07:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
Mar 06 03:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Mar 06 03:12:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.43 = 2.15 BTC [-]
Mar 06 03:12:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.425 = 0.85 BTC [-]
Mar 06 03:12:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.42 = 2.1 BTC [-]
Mar 06 03:13:39 <Namworld>	S.DICE on the other hand is going down the drain
Mar 06 03:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.955 = 1.91 BTC [-]
Mar 06 03:15:52 <Chaang-Noi>	never thought it would last, shocked it did as well as it has
Mar 06 03:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.41 = 2.05 BTC [-]
Mar 06 03:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	sooo i just realised
Mar 06 03:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe bot traded ~30k calls today, + 10k or so puts
Mar 06 03:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	this is like a good fraction of mtgox's day.
Mar 06 03:16:45 <Chaang-Noi>	seems people are bullish eh?
Mar 06 03:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	way.
Mar 06 03:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 03:16:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.20199, Best ask: 46.83966, Bid-ask spread: 0.63767, Last trade: 46.90000, 24 hour volume: 108408.53715162, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 41.38489
Mar 06 03:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4 = 4 BTC [-]
Mar 06 03:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	apparently with good reason.
Mar 06 03:17:30 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah... its smart to buy up all the calls, then dump 10 million on gox....
Mar 06 03:17:44 <coingenuity>	Chaang-Noi: not at all
Mar 06 03:17:52 <Chaang-Noi>	get tones of shit, sell back 10 million btc, at the much higher price, and do it again
Mar 06 03:17:54 <Chaang-Noi>	free money
Mar 06 03:18:02 <coingenuity>	Chaang-Noi: i explained that it's the insurance company's choice to insure any parcel...
Mar 06 03:18:18 <coingenuity>	:P
Mar 06 03:18:25 <Chaang-Noi>	man he never got his silver, you never gave it to him, end of stopry
Mar 06 03:18:33 <coingenuity>	incorrect 100%
Mar 06 03:18:38 <Chaang-Noi>	he got the silver/
Mar 06 03:18:39 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 06 03:18:51 <Chaang-Noi>	you need to post in the thread if he got the silver man...
Mar 06 03:18:55 <coingenuity>	he was given his silver, his country's goverment stole it, i was going to replace it until he wrote a script to annoy me
Mar 06 03:19:00 <coingenuity>	end of story
Mar 06 03:19:09 <coingenuity>	anyway, i can't talk with you, i'm eating dinner
Mar 06 03:19:12 <Chaang-Noi>	you failed to get him the silver
Mar 06 03:19:30 <Chaang-Noi>	your going to get killed in that thread man, just man up and pay it back
Mar 06 03:21:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18460872 = 184.6087 BTC [+]
Mar 06 03:21:20 <Namworld>	Doesn't coinabul specify the user must research import laws for his country himself? If the silver/gold is seized at the customs, no coinabul's problem.
Mar 06 03:22:04 <coingenuity>	Namworld: yes, we do
Mar 06 03:22:51 <Chaang-Noi>	customs clearly will claim there was no silver...  (as they stole it) its not like shipping to Austriala is illegal
Mar 06 03:23:00 <coingenuity>	Namworld: aside from insuring, and paying premiums on said insurance, for all parcels who's owners request it, we cannot do anything to change the minds of insurance companies nor governments...
Mar 06 03:23:11 <coingenuity>	(although we always do our best to try)
Mar 06 03:23:39 <Chaang-Noi>	you need to say on your website insured shipping does not imp[ly the shipping is insured and delivery is not guarranteed
Mar 06 03:23:52 <Chaang-Noi>	also 47... almost
Mar 06 03:24:02 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 47
Mar 06 03:24:06 <gribble>	There are currently 3915.0774 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 183856.80088 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
Mar 06 03:24:12 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh nice wall on 47
Mar 06 03:24:16 <coingenuity>	Chaang-Noi: i'm going to ignore your instigation, insured shipping is insured
Mar 06 03:24:28 <coingenuity>	i have more important work to do than bicker about nothing with you
Mar 06 03:24:35 <Chaang-Noi>	you came here buddy
Mar 06 03:24:39 <Chaang-Noi>	best of luck
Mar 06 03:25:04 <coingenuity>	Chaang-Noi: come back to me when you've contributed anything more than trolling to the bitcoin community as a whole...
Mar 06 03:25:09 <coingenuity>	anyway, /ignore
Mar 06 03:26:04 <Chaang-Noi>	oh slam, a scammer called me a troll, buuuurn :)
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Mar 06 03:27:00 <coingenuity>	Chaang-Noi: i'm almost certain you've 1. ordered gold from me 2. had that gold delivered to you successfully
Mar 06 03:27:08 <coingenuity>	so yeah, really?
Mar 06 03:27:16 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah it took a month
Mar 06 03:27:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i felt cheated i needed it right away,
Mar 06 03:27:47 <Chaang-Noi>	you did not steal from me, but id never use you again...
Mar 06 03:28:02 <Chaang-Noi>	however i need that gold to sell for fiat and you fucked me over by taking forever
Mar 06 03:28:10 <Chaang-Noi>	and i lost a lot of value while waiting
Mar 06 03:28:25 <Chaang-Noi>	dont have have me on ignore? im going afk anyway
Mar 06 03:28:37 <Chaang-Noi>	46.9 new ath,
Mar 06 03:29:02 <Chaang-Noi>	that small wall at 47 should slow us down a bit
Mar 06 03:30:57 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 47
Mar 06 03:31:03 <gribble>	There are currently 2982.5833 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 140147.42823 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Mar 06 03:32:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18488932 = 184.8893 BTC [+]
Mar 06 03:39:57 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 47
Mar 06 03:40:04 <gribble>	There are currently 3728.5372 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 175132.256038 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
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Mar 06 03:45:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0066 = 0.033 BTC [-]
Mar 06 03:46:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18548653 = 185.4865 BTC [+]
Mar 06 03:52:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.27 = 1.08 BTC [-]
Mar 06 03:53:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18619661 = 186.1966 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 03:53:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 03:53:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.06200, Best ask: 46.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03800, Last trade: 46.10000, 24 hour volume: 109292.22019850, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 41.61645
Mar 06 03:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 06 03:54:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 47.44997453 / 50.14846327 (no shares, 13,996.17 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 06 03:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	over 50. this is historix.
Mar 06 03:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 06 03:59:36 <gribble>	Time since last block: 9 minutes and 32 seconds
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Mar 06 04:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18991695 = 189.917 BTC [+]
Mar 06 04:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/291/bitcoin-over-50-by-march-13th/
Mar 06 04:07:06 <mircea_popescu>	put a bitcoin in teh oix!
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Mar 06 04:23:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.190908 = 190.908 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 04:28:59 <ZedsterX>	ouch dice is dead
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Mar 06 04:31:06 <kakobrekla>	nah
Mar 06 04:31:14 <kakobrekla>	some will pull out, sell the coin
Mar 06 04:31:22 <kakobrekla>	other people will buy the coins and put it back in
Mar 06 04:31:26 <kakobrekla>	just a shuffle
Mar 06 04:32:43 <ZedsterX>	has $45 really come and gone today
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Mar 06 04:33:16 <kakobrekla>	i sold 100 for my father for 4670
Mar 06 04:34:08 <ZedsterX>	i am trying to buy a few :P
Mar 06 04:34:33 <ZedsterX>	only 42 on BTC-e just hard to get USD there
Mar 06 04:35:01 <ZedsterX>	hard to get them there fast at least
Mar 06 04:35:35 <ZedsterX>	well i did get em for 45
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Mar 06 04:38:43 <TradeFortress>	ZedsterX, you can always just long it
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Mar 06 04:41:28 <dub>	;;goxlag
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Mar 06 04:41:46 <gribble>	245.37453 seconds
Mar 06 04:41:50 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 06 04:42:07 <dub>	it was 600 earlier
Mar 06 04:42:34 <kakobrekla>	no hardware can make up for bad code
Mar 06 04:42:36 <dub>	its retarded, pretty much random whether your order hits
Mar 06 04:43:47 <kakobrekla>	yes gox is retarded
Mar 06 04:43:51 <kakobrekla>	also stamp is retarded
Mar 06 04:43:59 <kakobrekla>	but just a little less
Mar 06 04:44:08 <kakobrekla>	or maybe even not that
Mar 06 04:44:24 <kakobrekla>	just the money is out quicker there
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Mar 06 04:44:37 <kakobrekla>	sill no solid platform to trade btc
Mar 06 04:44:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00548 BTC [+]
Mar 06 04:45:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 191 @ 0.00548 = 1.0467 BTC [+]
Mar 06 04:46:33 <dub>	market buy around 43.9 buys at 44.50
Mar 06 04:46:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.63494 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 04:53:10 <TradeFortress>	woha
Mar 06 04:53:17 <TradeFortress>	sdiec bid is at IPO prices
Mar 06 04:54:16 <TradeFortress>	yet people are still buying it for 0.0052 on bf
Mar 06 05:00:15 <TradeFortress>	keep putting up bids on BF please
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Mar 06 05:06:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 06 05:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 05:14:57 <Bowjob>	meow
Mar 06 05:15:01 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 05:15:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.14403, Best ask: 46.47898, Bid-ask spread: 0.33495, Last trade: 46.14403, 24 hour volume: 105262.95331360, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.31133
Mar 06 05:15:27 <Bowjob>	holy titfuck
Mar 06 05:15:44 <TradeFortress>	morning!
Mar 06 05:15:58 <TradeFortress>	expect $50 tommorow when you wake up.
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Mar 06 05:17:54 <TradeFortress>	mpex down or just me?
Mar 06 05:18:26 <leotreasure>	it looks down to me
Mar 06 05:18:36 <TradeFortress>	hmm yea so does downforeveryoneorjustme.com
Mar 06 05:18:53 <leotreasure>	must be a recent thing it was working not too long ago
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Mar 06 05:20:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.65 = 32.5 BTC [-]
Mar 06 05:20:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 25 @ 0.00999 = 0.2498 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 05:21:05 <dub>	try http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 06 05:21:14 <Bowjob>	oh god
Mar 06 05:21:26 <Bowjob>	guys I won the bet.. LTC will reach 20cents
Mar 06 05:21:29 <Bowjob>	.. damj
Mar 06 05:21:36 <Bowjob>	I feel like I deserved a bit more coins
Mar 06 05:21:41 <TradeFortress>	dub, doesn't work.
Mar 06 05:21:59 <dub>	does for me
Mar 06 05:22:35 <TradeFortress>	504 Gateway Time-out
Mar 06 05:22:35 <TradeFortress>	nginx
Mar 06 05:22:56 <jurov>	yep, none is working
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Mar 06 05:23:08 <jurov>	like someone cooked their router again
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Mar 06 05:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6498 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 05:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [+]
Mar 06 05:28:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.4 = 6.8 BTC [-]
Mar 06 05:28:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 05:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 06 05:32:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
Mar 06 05:33:31 <Bowjob>	Ooh
Mar 06 05:33:34 <Bowjob>	Look at Dice go
Mar 06 05:33:34 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 05:33:39 <Bowjob>	I got out just in time
Mar 06 05:34:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00073198 = 5.2703 BTC [+]
Mar 06 05:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-]
Mar 06 05:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
Mar 06 05:35:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [-]
Mar 06 05:35:44 <jurov>	interesting... mpex offline but it does report trades
Mar 06 05:36:28 <jurov>	at least mpex.coinbr.com works now
Mar 06 05:38:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 84 @ 0.00549 = 0.4612 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 05:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
Mar 06 05:47:14 <Bowjob>	I'll be a bro and give some of my friends an opportunity to buy BTC
Mar 06 05:47:15 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 06 05:47:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00549 = 0.0824 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 05:50:24 <kakobrekla>	lol wtf is this shit
Mar 06 05:50:25 <kakobrekla>	Kim Dotcom @KimDotcom
Mar 06 05:50:25 <kakobrekla>	#Megacard: I would love to create a #Bitcoin credit card! Who can help us make it happen? Email: twitter@kim.com
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Mar 06 05:55:39 <Bowjob>	that ianbakewell is gonna get slaughtered
Mar 06 05:55:46 <Bowjob>	with 600 BTC loan
Mar 06 05:57:37 <Namworld>	?
Mar 06 05:58:43 *	fishfish|AFK is now known as fishfish
Mar 06 05:58:55 <Bowjob>	ian borrowed 600 BTC when they were 34 dollars each
Mar 06 06:01:46 <Bowjob>	btc-e is down
Mar 06 06:02:37 <Namworld>	For what purpose?
Mar 06 06:02:44 <Namworld>	I'm also borrowing BTC
Mar 06 06:03:08 <Bowjob>	shorting?
Mar 06 06:03:08 <Bowjob>	,h,
Mar 06 06:03:50 <Namworld>	nah, I'll grab some S.DICE or stuff like that for my passthroughs while it's cheap.
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Mar 06 06:07:51 <Troic_>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 06 06:08:13 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Mar 06 06:12:24 <Troic_>	!ticker h s.dice
Mar 06 06:12:27 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Mar 06 06:12:51 <kakobrekla>	ask on bitstamp at 48 heh
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Mar 06 06:16:39 <Namworld>	what's happening with MPEx?
Mar 06 06:17:12 <fydel1>	yeah..that's a good question
Mar 06 06:17:27 <jurov>	i don't know. at least the backend works
Mar 06 06:17:30 <maximian>	probably a DoS attack, happened a few weeks ago
Mar 06 06:17:49 <Namworld>	backend works... I guess the web interface is being updated
Mar 06 06:19:14 <jurov>	it's more complicated... http://mpex.coinbr.com is a proxy (accepts orders/stat, too)
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Mar 06 06:19:39 <jurov>	and it works fine now (but it was not for a while, too)
Mar 06 06:19:41 <mjr_>	hi all
Mar 06 06:19:48 <mjr_>	whats up with mpex?
Mar 06 06:19:59 <jurov>	hello, no idea
Mar 06 06:20:09 <jurov>	coinbr works atm
Mar 06 06:20:25 <jurov>	cuz we access alternate mpex ip
Mar 06 06:20:25 <mjr_>	yep
Mar 06 06:20:29 <mjr_>	ah nice
Mar 06 06:20:55 <jurov>	but that can change anytime
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Mar 06 06:21:21 <mjr_>	this is just crazy right now
Mar 06 06:21:36 <kakobrekla>	which part
Mar 06 06:21:42 <mjr_>	46?
Mar 06 06:21:46 <kakobrekla>	a that
Mar 06 06:21:49 <mjr_>	so fast
Mar 06 06:22:11 <mjr_>	i bought the 41 calls as a long shot
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Mar 06 06:22:27 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 06 06:22:49 <kakobrekla>	apparently you shot accuratley on long distances
Mar 06 06:24:24 <jurov>	coinbr user support is becoming fun. got another email "i bought C37Ts, now i'm selling and nobody wants them, help!"
Mar 06 06:24:55 <jurov>	explained to him how to click Exercise link right on dashboard...
Mar 06 06:25:15 <jurov>	but looks like thay sold in meantime anyway
Mar 06 06:26:22 <jurov>	whale gobbled everything
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Mar 06 06:26:59 <jurov>	looks like we need to create MPOE Emergency Relief fund
Mar 06 06:27:04 *	gribble (~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Mar 06 06:28:26 <jurov>	or MP can start selling extraordinary mpoe bonds
Mar 06 06:33:07 <mjr_>	troubled asset relief?
Mar 06 06:33:35 <mjr_>	why would he sell or exercise now? there is like 21 days left...
Mar 06 06:34:09 <jurov>	he did not explain.. seems he didn't know what he's doing
Mar 06 06:34:18 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
Mar 06 06:34:21 <kakobrekla>	kinda interesting
Mar 06 06:34:57 <jurov>	Oo bitstamp is at 48? time to sell a bit
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Mar 06 06:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.51 = 3.06 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 06:44:04 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/AAPO3vk.png
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Mar 06 06:44:21 <kakobrekla>	i asked that question a week or so ago
Mar 06 06:44:32 <kakobrekla>	no answer in this chan
Mar 06 06:44:42 <kakobrekla>	thought we had smart ppl here.
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Mar 06 06:52:50 <jurov>	Rule 1. We do not know what is paypal
Mar 06 06:53:07 <jurov>	Rule 2. Even if we know, we never speak about it.
Mar 06 06:53:17 <kakobrekla>	shit, might add that to the bitcoin-assets.com
Mar 06 06:53:42 <kakobrekla>	cause i herd its useless
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Mar 06 06:55:02 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 47
Mar 06 06:55:08 <gribble>	There are currently 5140.5779 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 240829.255427 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 06 06:55:30 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids-35
Mar 06 06:55:31 <gribble>	Error: "bids-35" is not a valid command.
Mar 06 06:58:43 <jurov>	bitcoin-central at 38.5 , bitstamp at 47, lol
Mar 06 06:58:52 <jurov>	must do something about
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Mar 06 07:02:55 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 07:02:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.42009, Best ask: 45.42019, Bid-ask spread: 0.00010, Last trade: 45.42021, 24 hour volume: 99525.39008012, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.60348
Mar 06 07:03:05 <Bowjob>	crash
Mar 06 07:03:14 <jurov>	ooooh the btccentral price is in eur.. even moar intriguing
Mar 06 07:03:20 <Bowjob>	see you at single digits
Mar 06 07:03:24 <jurov>	;;bc,convert,eur
Mar 06 07:03:25 <gribble>	Error: "bc,convert,eur" is not a valid command.
Mar 06 07:03:32 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 06 07:03:33 <gribble>	1 BTC = 45.39100 U.S. dollars = 34.761066 Euros
Mar 06 07:08:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34499 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 07:11:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00549 = 0.2196 BTC [+]
Mar 06 07:13:02 <Bugpowder>	Alt link for mpex? Getting ddosed?
Mar 06 07:14:04 <jurov>	Bugpowder, mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 07:14:26 <Bugpowder>	Tx
Mar 06 07:15:16 <Bugpowder>	Wow .003
Mar 06 07:15:55 <Bowjob>	whats 0.003
Mar 06 07:16:27 <Bugpowder>	Sdice
Mar 06 07:16:37 <Bowjob>	ah
Mar 06 07:16:42 <Bowjob>	ive seen it coming, really
Mar 06 07:16:56 <Bugpowder>	I called it first
Mar 06 07:16:57 <Bowjob>	the dice is just worth as the month's volume
Mar 06 07:17:05 <Bowjob>	well, I got out of the dice just in time lolz
Mar 06 07:17:22 <Bowjob>	someone gave away over 300 BTC last night
Mar 06 07:17:25 <Bowjob>	that was delicious
Mar 06 07:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-]
Mar 06 07:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 06 07:20:06 <Bowjob>	also bug
Mar 06 07:20:15 <Bowjob>	you were like.. dice is safe now, get back in
Mar 06 07:20:18 <Bowjob>	i remember :P
Mar 06 07:20:45 <Bowjob>	the overall profit doesnt really matter to a new shareholder
Mar 06 07:20:52 <Bowjob>	its that month that matters
Mar 06 07:20:53 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 06 07:23:32 <Bugpowder>	Whatever
Mar 06 07:23:47 <Bugpowder>	It will bounce from here
Mar 06 07:23:55 <Bugpowder>	Or near hear
Mar 06 07:24:08 <Bugpowder>	Might take a few weeks
Mar 06 07:24:16 <Bugpowder>	I will wait
Mar 06 07:24:32 <kakobrekla>	techical support at 2.50 mBTC
Mar 06 07:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.38 = 2.66 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 07:27:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 375 @ 0.19683239 = 73.8121 BTC [+]
Mar 06 07:30:49 <Bowjob>	ian was right to short dice it seems
Mar 06 07:31:01 <Bowjob>	shorting is such a ballsy move it scares me
Mar 06 07:31:46 <kakobrekla>	did i mention this here before,
Mar 06 07:31:51 <kakobrekla>	i am sure that he bitstamp owners
Mar 06 07:31:54 <kakobrekla>	do not use bitstamp.
Mar 06 07:32:18 <kakobrekla>	he=the
Mar 06 07:32:53 <Bowjob>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19oiht/rbitcoin_lets_share_with_those_in_need_for_every/
Mar 06 07:32:54 <Bowjob>	Damn
Mar 06 07:33:05 <jurov>	kakobrekla and now what should i think about that?
Mar 06 07:33:07 <Bowjob>	I was posting this link last night anyone got their bitcoins
Mar 06 07:33:24 <kakobrekla>	i dont know, they are idiots
Mar 06 07:34:05 <jurov>	judging from long-standing fee bugs i hear about, it may be as well true
Mar 06 07:34:55 <jurov>	or they fear to fix it cuz they have no unit tests
Mar 06 07:35:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00073247 = 1.4283 BTC [+]
Mar 06 07:35:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11303 @ 0.00074548 = 8.4262 BTC [+]
Mar 06 07:35:24 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 47
Mar 06 07:35:25 <gribble>	There are currently 4711.5328 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 220954.276368 USD in total. | Data vintage: 115.7926 seconds
Mar 06 07:36:16 <jurov>	sigh. i have updated the coinbr engine to use mpex track code, all fine and dandy
Mar 06 07:36:20 <kakobrekla>	the problem is most of bitcoins users are idiots as well
Mar 06 07:36:29 <kakobrekla>	to it goes along just fine.
Mar 06 07:36:37 <jurov>	but now the unit tests must be fixed. and that's much bigger task
Mar 06 07:37:13 <jurov>	and new ones added for the "track used/track not used" cases
Mar 06 07:37:59 <Bowjob>	http://imgur.com/r/Bitcoin/UqYgqRy
Mar 06 07:38:39 <jurov>	dis wrong. bitcoin is always mean.
Mar 06 07:39:05 <kakobrekla>	yes we are at the first selloff
Mar 06 07:39:08 <kakobrekla>	or something
Mar 06 07:39:11 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 06 07:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16243 @ 0.00073204 = 11.8905 BTC [-]
Mar 06 07:39:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1144 @ 0.00073198 = 0.8374 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 07:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5063 @ 0.0007313 = 3.7026 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 07:45:28 <Bowjob>	actually were in the take off phase
Mar 06 07:55:10 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 07:55:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.20000, Best ask: 46.48800, Bid-ask spread: 0.28800, Last trade: 46.20000, 24 hour volume: 99179.19073160, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.70440
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Mar 06 08:02:15 <kakobrekla>	https://twitter.com/SilkRoadDrugs/status/309238128097517568
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Mar 06 08:03:27 <thestringpuller>	wtf is this shit
Mar 06 08:03:54 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 06 08:04:15 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Mar 06 08:04:24 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 06 08:04:33 <thestringpuller>	give me the option index dammit!!!!!
Mar 06 08:04:46 <assbot>	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
Mar 06 08:05:33 <jurov>	!ticker m OIX^
Mar 06 08:05:49 <Guest98560>	47.45
Mar 06 08:05:54 <assbot>	Some are born to endless night.
Mar 06 08:06:10 <jurov>	i guess assbot fails to access the website
Mar 06 08:06:33 <jurov>	although it reports trades fine, dunno
Mar 06 08:06:52 <assbot>	 Nope, some are just born to endless night.
Mar 06 08:08:41 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 08:08:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.23825, Best ask: 46.33559, Bid-ask spread: 0.09734, Last trade: 46.23824, 24 hour volume: 99397.65043641, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.72776
Mar 06 08:08:52 <Bowjob>	what do you know. i get richer just by fapping
Mar 06 08:08:54 <Bowjob>	hehe
Mar 06 08:09:57 <jurov>	url of webcam or didnt happen
Mar 06 08:12:33 <kakobrekla>	here, to help you whore out http://www.cam4btc.com/
Mar 06 08:13:07 <jurov>	unittests hacking brings nostalgia "Your order to BUY 1 O.BTCUSD.C110T @0.20000000BTC each has been received and will be processed."
Mar 06 08:14:30 <jurov>	going even deeper "Your order to BUY 2 O.BTCUSD.P040T @0.00014536BTC each has been received" now they don't exist lol
Mar 06 08:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 08:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 08:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8891 @ 0.0007313 = 6.502 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 08:32:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5356 @ 0.0007313 = 3.9168 BTC [-]
Mar 06 08:35:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00414309 = 1.2429 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 08:37:05 <gesell>	mpex down?
Mar 06 08:37:20 <jurov>	gesell yes, use mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 08:37:27 <jurov>	we bought it
Mar 06 08:37:40 <gesell>	what tha
Mar 06 08:37:49 <PsychoticBoy>	I thought MP said, mpex never down
Mar 06 08:37:50 <gesell>	you what
Mar 06 08:37:54 <gesell>	?
Mar 06 08:38:00 <PsychoticBoy>	big lie
Mar 06 08:38:06 <PsychoticBoy>	hehe
Mar 06 08:38:08 <gesell>	what happened to the vps that used to be on mpex?
Mar 06 08:38:13 <PsychoticBoy>	L
Mar 06 08:38:20 <gesell>	or was there?
Mar 06 08:38:24 <gesell>	thought bitvps was there
Mar 06 08:38:26 <jurov>	yup. went yest to timisoara and bought mpex, for a few lines of blow
Mar 06 08:38:26 <TomServo>	PsychoticBoy: Never hacked I think... he reported a DDOS outage a while back I believe.
Mar 06 08:38:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.0007313 = 0.7233 BTC [-]
Mar 06 08:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00072769 = 2.6925 BTC [-]
Mar 06 08:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 985 @ 0.00072612 = 0.7152 BTC [-]
Mar 06 08:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00072378 = 5.5369 BTC [-]
Mar 06 08:38:57 <PsychoticBoy>	hope it stays down
Mar 06 08:39:00 <ZedsterX>	lol jurov
Mar 06 08:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00071218 = 6.4452 BTC [-]
Mar 06 08:39:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00071077 = 1.1017 BTC [-]
Mar 06 08:39:54 <gesell>	jurov: this is insane
Mar 06 08:39:56 <PsychoticBoy>	MP is preventing ppl to leave his crap imperium hehe ppl
Mar 06 08:40:28 <PsychoticBoy>	the one assety that did good/not bad was sdice and sdice is crapping in
Mar 06 08:40:40 <PsychoticBoy>	hooray for mpex
Mar 06 08:40:43 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
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Mar 06 08:41:42 <jurov>	gesell, you actually believe it? btw, i have picked up few nifty asic rigs en route in budapetst
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Mar 06 08:41:59 <ZedsterX>	stop now!
Mar 06 08:42:08 <ZedsterX>	send me one
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Mar 06 08:42:41 <gesell>	btw, just posted this on redit but... pretty ascii graphs with:  curl  -s "http://bitcoincharts.com/t/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxEUR&start=`date -v-1H +%s`" | gnuplot -e 'set datafile separator ","; set xdata time; set timefmt "%s"; unset key; set format x "%H%M"; set parametric;  set y2tics; set tics nomirror out; set y2tics format "%.2f"; unset mxtics; set border 9;  unset my2tics; unset ytics; set xtics scale 0; set term dumb; plot "-" using
Mar 06 08:42:44 <jurov>	bah... i'm owning btc now, u think i'll just send someone somethig?
Mar 06 08:42:47 <PsychoticBoy>	LMFAO, east european ASICS,k just a shoebox
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Mar 06 08:43:56 <gesell>	jurov: sorry yeah i havent been in this room in a while so getting used to the troll factor again ;)
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Mar 06 08:44:26 <PsychoticBoy>	http://www.zalando.nl/asics-retro-rocket-sneakers-laag-wit-as115a009-055.html
Mar 06 08:45:30 <PsychoticBoy>	More like I have the X factor
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Mar 06 08:46:17 <PsychoticBoy>	http://imgur.com/kKPy8
Mar 06 08:47:03 <PsychoticBoy>	silence at last ;)
Mar 06 08:47:10 <PsychoticBoy>	back to work
Mar 06 08:48:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P730T] 1 @ 0.90910719 BTC
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Mar 06 08:53:03 <Guest98560>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 06 08:53:26 <assbot>	Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
Mar 06 08:53:32 <Guest98560>	assbot feed donw :(
Mar 06 09:02:53 <ThickAsThieves>	ayo! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1590335#msg1590335
Mar 06 09:04:12 <BitHub>	is there an official asicminer room here?
Mar 06 09:04:25 <BitHub>	i'm in #asicminer btw
Mar 06 09:04:35 <ThickAsThieves>	this is better than an asicminer room
Mar 06 09:04:53 <jurov>	we have anything "official" in bitcoinland?
Mar 06 09:05:37 <PsychoticBoy>	a room, an official room just for us ahhhh
Mar 06 09:05:39 <kakobrekla>	this is officially official bitcoin chan
Mar 06 09:06:10 <pigeons>	nice padded walls
Mar 06 09:06:20 <BitHub>	hehe yeah this room is better
Mar 06 09:06:24 <BitHub>	more info
Mar 06 09:06:27 <jurov>	official with Slightly Smoky Dragon and Double Cherry Truck insignia
Mar 06 09:13:52 <pigeons>	i can't get the only service that has never been hacked to come up
Mar 06 09:14:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 06 09:14:31 <BitHub>	its been hacked
Mar 06 09:14:49 <maximian>	http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 06 09:14:53 <maximian>	proxy site
Mar 06 09:15:15 <maximian>	the front end http server is down, not the MPEX backend
Mar 06 09:15:29 <ZedsterX>	i told him to put yet on the end of his never been hacked sentence
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Mar 06 09:16:52 <Chaang-Noi>	asic miner payment incoming :)
Mar 06 09:16:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i assume
Mar 06 09:17:05 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz testpaymesnt, oh i cant wait, muhahahah biiig money
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Mar 06 09:18:08 <BitHub>	correcto :)
Mar 06 09:18:19 <BitHub>	its exciting ^_^
Mar 06 09:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.381 = 2.667 BTC [+]
Mar 06 09:19:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3801 = 3.801 BTC [-]
Mar 06 09:19:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 09:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [-]
Mar 06 09:22:38 <error4733>	hello, maybe the question was asked 10.000time but MPEX down ? :/
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Mar 06 09:23:08 <ZedsterX>	topic should be changed here maybe
Mar 06 09:23:41 <ZedsterX>	but  http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 06 09:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00070613 = 10.0977 BTC [-]
Mar 06 09:24:00 <ZedsterX>	try that
Mar 06 09:24:35 <error4733>	it'a clone where you scam my gpg order ?
Mar 06 09:24:50 <error4733>	;)
Mar 06 09:24:54 <error4733>	thanks
Mar 06 09:25:08 <ZedsterX>	nah the front of the server is down
Mar 06 09:25:21 <ZedsterX>	he is renting the host :)
Mar 06 09:25:35 <ZedsterX>	so they say
Mar 06 09:25:38 <error4733>	why down ? attack ?
Mar 06 09:25:44 <ZedsterX>	thats only what i hear
Mar 06 09:25:44 <pigeons>	never!
Mar 06 09:25:49 <ZedsterX>	never!
Mar 06 09:25:54 <error4733>	to much porn on server ?
Mar 06 09:26:08 <ZedsterX>	MP spreads way too luv for that
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Mar 06 09:27:13 <error4733>	haha thanks for this morning joke, need it
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Mar 06 09:27:57 <BitHub>	think the cia kidnapped mircea again
Mar 06 09:28:43 <jurov>	then prolly the domain would be seized
Mar 06 09:29:09 <kakobrekla>	must be the dns cache
Mar 06 09:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.46899999 = 0.938 BTC [+]
Mar 06 09:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.469 = 2.345 BTC [+]
Mar 06 09:32:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.46999999 = 0.94 BTC [+]
Mar 06 09:32:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.47 = 4.7 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 09:36:43 <BitHub>	i think i'm getting the same amount of jah mining divs than i would at asicminer shares at 0.65 hah
Mar 06 09:36:51 <thestringpuller>	lol mircea_popescu got on bitinstants case but mpex is down
Mar 06 09:37:11 <BitHub>	anyone else finding that?
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Mar 06 09:37:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu we summon thee!
Mar 06 09:38:05 <thestringpuller>	he took the money and ran
Mar 06 09:38:12 <thestringpuller>	mpex is scam after al
Mar 06 09:38:14 <thestringpuller>	all
Mar 06 09:38:16 <thestringpuller>	waaah
Mar 06 09:38:17 <thestringpuller>	waaah
Mar 06 09:38:19 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Mar 06 09:41:04 <smickles>	thestringpuller: i owe you some monies :)
Mar 06 09:41:19 <Ukto>	smickles!
Mar 06 09:41:22 <smickles>	anduck too, if he's around
Mar 06 09:41:35 *	jurov leverages the panic and raises the fee for quick mpex withdrawals to 0.5btc
Mar 06 09:41:42 <jurov>	oh hi smickles
Mar 06 09:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00070613 = 2.3302 BTC [-]
Mar 06 09:42:58 <thestringpuller>	smickles returns, does he return with news of a second born?
Mar 06 09:47:32 <mjr_>	;;ticker
Mar 06 09:47:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.77107, Best ask: 46.78122, Bid-ask spread: 0.01015, Last trade: 46.77107, 24 hour volume: 94579.93372571, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 43.05662
Mar 06 09:48:07 <Guest98560>	who
Mar 06 09:48:14 *	Guest98560 is now known as Bugpowdrr
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Mar 06 09:49:22 <Bugpowdrr>	he took it down cause he don't wanna sell anymore calls.
Mar 06 09:50:05 <Bugpowdrr>	46.90
Mar 06 09:50:31 <Chaang-Noi>	mpex down?
Mar 06 09:50:39 <Chaang-Noi>	mp ran with the btc or hacked?
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Mar 06 09:50:44 <jurov>	Chaang-Noi yes and no
Mar 06 09:50:46 <DeaDTerra>	wh yis mPEX down?
Mar 06 09:50:51 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 06 09:50:54 <DeaDTerra>	why is *
Mar 06 09:51:07 <jurov>	dunno
Mar 06 09:51:28 <error4733>	bug : haha
Mar 06 09:51:43 <error4733>	sooo much call sold last week !
Mar 06 09:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00069034 = 3.1065 BTC [-]
Mar 06 09:52:09 <jurov>	but the backend is working ( and proxied by mpex.coinbr.com ).. don't know why they can't move the domain elsewhere
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Mar 06 09:52:40 <jurov>	or make any statement
Mar 06 09:52:59 <unbalanced>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 06 09:53:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.37000000 / 0.49368267 / 0.59000000 (622 shares, 307.07061895 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.58757632 / 0.68950000 (1682 shares, 988.30336796 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.6373535 / 0.76500000 (10868 shares, 6926.75789072 BTC)
Mar 06 09:53:01 <maximian>	thanks for your proxy service jurov :)
Mar 06 09:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.401 = 4.01 BTC [-]
Mar 06 09:53:03 <smickles>	< thestringpuller> smickles returns, does he return with news of a second born? shouldn't be until mid-may
Mar 06 09:53:07 <ThickAsThieves>	mp went to go do "human" things a few hours ago
Mar 06 09:53:25 <smickles>	mpex is not down
Mar 06 09:53:34 <smickles>	use one of the proxies
Mar 06 09:53:35 <thestringpuller>	i know I was just trolling
Mar 06 09:54:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Mar 06 09:54:14 <smickles>	heh, i have excellent log-reading skills
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Mar 06 09:54:35 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 06 09:54:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.94000, Best ask: 47.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 47.00000, 24 hour volume: 97426.47255291, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.00000, 24 hour vwap: 43.18923
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Mar 06 09:56:41 <Bugpowdrr>	$47.50
Mar 06 09:56:49 <unbalanced>	!ticker mpex
Mar 06 09:56:49 <assbot>	I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
Mar 06 09:56:50 <jurov>	smickles, I take it as you reading 3 weeks of this chan logs?
Mar 06 09:57:13 <unbalanced>	!ticker mpex sdice
Mar 06 09:57:20 <Bugpowdrr>	Selling into this rally
Mar 06 09:57:22 <smickles>	jurov: I
Mar 06 09:57:25 <smickles>	er,
Mar 06 09:57:25 <Bugpowdrr>	this pace is stupid
Mar 06 09:57:28 <smickles>	jurov: i'm trying
Mar 06 09:57:35 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Mar 06 09:57:54 <jurov>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 06 09:58:16 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Mar 06 09:58:17 <unbalanced>	Thanks jurov
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Mar 06 09:58:31 <unbalanced>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 06 09:58:37 <jurov>	assbot got some malarkey
Mar 06 09:58:46 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 09:58:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.01700, Best ask: 47.30807, Bid-ask spread: 0.29107, Last trade: 47.01700, 24 hour volume: 98301.12712212, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.22614
Mar 06 09:58:52 <assbot>	I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
Mar 06 09:58:53 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 09:58:57 <error4733>	50$ today, i put some champagne in the fridge
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Mar 06 09:59:51 <unbalanced>	Where I can read logs of this channel so I ask 8% fewer stupid questions?
Mar 06 09:59:52 *	chmod755|rofl is now known as chmod755
Mar 06 10:00:00 <Bugpowdrr>	parabolic top
Mar 06 10:00:18 <Bowjob>	heresy! off with your head!
Mar 06 10:00:25 <Bugpowdrr>	dude
Mar 06 10:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00414309 = 4.1431 BTC [+]
Mar 06 10:00:35 <jurov>	unbalanced, they aren't public afaik
Mar 06 10:00:35 <smickles>	unbalanced: you might have to log it yourself
Mar 06 10:00:44 <Bugpowdrr>	there is going to be a major pullback
Mar 06 10:00:46 <unbalanced>	ah thanks
Mar 06 10:00:48 <Bugpowdrr>	very very soon
Mar 06 10:00:56 <Bowjob>	lemme guess. you bought puts?
Mar 06 10:00:57 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 10:00:59 <Bugpowdrr>	no
Mar 06 10:01:02 <Bugpowdrr>	not touching that shit
Mar 06 10:01:04 <ThickAsThieves>	there's a log somewhere online actually
Mar 06 10:01:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i stumbled on it at one point
Mar 06 10:01:19 <Bowjob>	there will be a major pullback..
Mar 06 10:01:20 <Bowjob>	upwards
Mar 06 10:01:21 <Bowjob>	:)
Mar 06 10:01:33 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves: complete? not just some pastebin?
Mar 06 10:01:39 <ThickAsThieves>	cant remember
Mar 06 10:02:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 100 @ 0.06498108 = 6.4981 BTC [-]
Mar 06 10:02:42 <Chaang-Noi>	47 gone?
Mar 06 10:02:48 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 06 10:02:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.50001, Best ask: 47.58770, Bid-ask spread: 0.08769, Last trade: 47.49990, 24 hour volume: 98269.41406670, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.58770, 24 hour vwap: 43.23820
Mar 06 10:02:53 <Chaang-Noi>	man...
Mar 06 10:02:56 <Chaang-Noi>	insane
Mar 06 10:03:06 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 06 10:03:07 <Bowjob>	amazon partnered up with bitinstant
Mar 06 10:03:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.37000000 / 0.4917805 / 0.59000000 (635 shares, 312.28061895 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.58614358 / 0.68950000 (1695 shares, 993.51336796 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.63707085 / 0.76500000 (10881 shares, 6931.96789072 BTC)
Mar 06 10:03:11 <Bowjob>	fun stuff
Mar 06 10:03:13 <Bugpowdrr>	fastcash4bitcoins is out
Mar 06 10:03:16 <Bugpowdrr>	of cash
Mar 06 10:03:30 <Chaang-Noi>	not shocked, i got 13k out of them at 35$
Mar 06 10:03:37 <Bowjob>	it was bitinstant actually
Mar 06 10:03:38 <Bowjob>	http://www.fortmilltimes.com/2013/03/06/2538174/bitpay-integrates-bitcoin-with.html
Mar 06 10:03:38 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 10:03:41 <Bowjob>	gg
Mar 06 10:03:48 <Bowjob>	.. and i kinda feel bad for dice owners
Mar 06 10:04:05 <jurov>	meh.. tomorrow it may change
Mar 06 10:04:14 <Bugpowdrr>	s.DICE will bounce
Mar 06 10:04:15 <blu3gr1ffon>	yeah, trance #4 will be dumped
Mar 06 10:04:16 <maximian>	don't worry about us - a bounce back is coming
Mar 06 10:04:23 <blu3gr1ffon>	and it will bounce down
Mar 06 10:04:32 <blu3gr1ffon>	although I like divs
Mar 06 10:04:53 <blu3gr1ffon>	just can I get them out before SEC finds a way to prosecute.  :P
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Mar 06 10:05:13 <Bowjob>	mhm.. it looks like an opportunity to arb s.dice at havelock
Mar 06 10:05:21 <Bowjob>	buy at 0.37, sell at 0,.46
Mar 06 10:05:24 <Bowjob>	rinse and repeat
Mar 06 10:05:28 <jurov>	then i'll hide evoorhees in my apt.. and won't be alone i guess
Mar 06 10:05:32 <Bugpowdrr>	The last bubble top was a $13 rise in one day
Mar 06 10:05:51 <Bugpowdrr>	then crash of $22 in 3 days
Mar 06 10:06:02 <Bowjob>	you should sell the btcs now if they are gonna crash
Mar 06 10:06:08 <Bowjob>	its very hard to predict the top
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Mar 06 10:06:46 <Bowjob>	I tried to give away 1 BTC to a gaming website
Mar 06 10:06:50 <Bowjob>	I just got laughed at
Mar 06 10:06:50 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 10:06:59 <Bowjob>	gamefaqs..
Mar 06 10:07:00 <Bowjob>	bah
Mar 06 10:07:02 <m0mchil>	howdy... what's up with MPEX right now, DDoS or what?
Mar 06 10:07:05 <Bugpowdrr>	we are now up over $10 in the last 24 hours.
Mar 06 10:07:10 <Bugpowdrr>	mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 10:07:39 <blu3gr1ffon>	what are you trying to say Bugpowdrr ?
Mar 06 10:07:49 <blu3gr1ffon>	pAnIc!
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Mar 06 10:08:07 <Bugpowdrr>	I'm trying to say that I'm am selling 25%
Mar 06 10:08:20 <Bowjob>	charities will accept more BTC.. there was a campaign last night about BTC
Mar 06 10:08:29 <JWU42_>	mpex down?
Mar 06 10:08:31 <Bowjob>	about $12000 was given away in BTC
Mar 06 10:08:45 <Bugpowdrr>	mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 10:08:47 <Bowjob>	to various charities, from $20-100 dollars ea
Mar 06 10:08:48 <smickles>	Bugpowdrr: so that was you buying puts at 31?
Mar 06 10:08:55 <Bugpowdrr>	uh?
Mar 06 10:08:59 <Bugpowdrr>	I don't remember
Mar 06 10:09:00 <Bugpowdrr>	I did
Mar 06 10:09:04 <Bugpowdrr>	a while ago
Mar 06 10:09:06 *	[\\\] has quit ()
Mar 06 10:09:06 <Bugpowdrr>	but closed them
Mar 06 10:09:11 <Bowjob>	mpex seems down from here.
Mar 06 10:09:11 <Bugpowdrr>	at 28.5
Mar 06 10:09:37 <Bowjob>	does ddos count as a hack?
Mar 06 10:09:42 <smickles>	nop
Mar 06 10:09:49 <smickles>	not imo anyway
Mar 06 10:10:03 <smickles>	and it's not down, all the proxies are working
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Mar 06 10:10:16 <kakobrekla>	does a nuke count as a slap on the wrist
Mar 06 10:10:20 <smickles>	so it's really just the one url which is down
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Mar 06 10:10:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 06 10:10:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.51677, Best ask: 47.58770, Bid-ask spread: 0.07093, Last trade: 47.58770, 24 hour volume: 98083.19810957, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.75000, 24 hour vwap: 43.26076
Mar 06 10:10:54 <imsaguy>	is this where we panic?
Mar 06 10:11:00 <ThickAsThieves>	48 soon
Mar 06 10:11:04 <chmod755>	imsaguy, no
Mar 06 10:11:06 <imsaguy>	seriously, one more person asking if mpex is down
Mar 06 10:11:22 <EskimoBob>	I don't :)
Mar 06 10:11:22 <chmod755>	mpex has been hacked. hackers are dumping soon
Mar 06 10:11:25 <imsaguy>	I swear its a bunch of 12 y/o lemmings in bitcoin
Mar 06 10:11:26 <chmod755>	#fakenews
Mar 06 10:11:32 <ZedsterX>	someone change the subject onthe channel
Mar 06 10:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00414309 = 8.2862 BTC [+]
Mar 06 10:11:59 <smickles>	 /topic mpex down, bitcoin to crash
Mar 06 10:11:59 <imsaguy>	why?
Mar 06 10:12:11 <BitHub>	mircea has been kidnapped
Mar 06 10:12:12 <imsaguy>	this is #bitcoin-assets, not ##mpex
Mar 06 10:12:16 <chmod755>	can i has $1,000,000 per BTC?
Mar 06 10:12:32 <kakobrekla>	imsaguy this is the shit.
Mar 06 10:12:40 <jcpham>	hi
Mar 06 10:12:41 <smickles>	chmod755: i have an interested buyer, but they want the usd first
Mar 06 10:12:48 <jcpham>	imsaguy are you buying all these coins
Mar 06 10:12:50 <EskimoBob>	BitHub: he deserves to be hanged by the balls
Mar 06 10:12:53 <imsaguy>	kakobrekla: urmom
Mar 06 10:12:56 <imsaguy>	jcpham, only some
Mar 06 10:12:56 <chmod755>	smickles, wat
Mar 06 10:12:58 <pigeons>	NO U
Mar 06 10:13:06 <BitHub>	why EskimoBob?
Mar 06 10:13:11 <assbot>	 NO U
Mar 06 10:13:18 <imsaguy>	pigeons: did you find the i in team?
Mar 06 10:13:18 <smickles>	chmod755: nvm, bad joke
Mar 06 10:13:25 <imsaguy>	its hidden in the A hole
Mar 06 10:13:39 <Bugpowdrr>	imsaguy: My wife's girlfriends are buying no
Mar 06 10:13:40 <Bugpowdrr>	now
Mar 06 10:13:43 <EskimoBob>	BitHub: all gypsy scumbags deserve that :)
Mar 06 10:13:45 <Bugpowdrr>	Time to get out
Mar 06 10:13:51 <jcpham>	yes it is hidden in ther A hole!
Mar 06 10:13:52 <imsaguy>	Bugpowdrr: sounds for a kinky night
Mar 06 10:14:44 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 06 10:14:46 <gribble>	1 BTC = 47.88000 U.S. dollars = 36.7375125 Euros
Mar 06 10:14:46 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 48
Mar 06 10:14:52 <Bowjob>	we are crashing
Mar 06 10:14:52 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 50
Mar 06 10:14:53 <gribble>	There are currently 464.05826 bitcoins offered at or under 48.0 USD, worth 22255.6760062 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
Mar 06 10:14:54 <gribble>	There are currently 9879.8201 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 489143.829799 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
Mar 06 10:15:03 <EskimoBob>	this BTC price is not funny any more :)
Mar 06 10:15:07 <Bowjob>	upwards
Mar 06 10:15:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda think we need a correction, then i read more news and im wow... so i dont know
Mar 06 10:15:44 <Bowjob>	yes this is the correction
Mar 06 10:15:56 <Bugpowdrr>	Cameras ready, prepare to crash
Mar 06 10:16:01 <Bowjob>	Bug. when
Mar 06 10:16:04 <Bowjob>	gimme a number
Mar 06 10:16:06 <Bowjob>	>:)
Mar 06 10:16:15 <EskimoBob>	50K+ EUR trades :) LOL
Mar 06 10:16:24 <Chaang-Noi>	before i thought we might correct to 20, now im pretty sure we wont go much under 30 if we get tht far down... :/
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Mar 06 10:17:04 <Bugpowdrr>	49.88 is the top
Mar 06 10:17:16 <Bugpowdrr>	maybe
Mar 06 10:18:04 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 06 10:18:04 <smickles>	I say the top is 51.33
Mar 06 10:18:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.00000, Best ask: 48.34801, Bid-ask spread: 0.34801, Last trade: 48.34801, 24 hour volume: 99201.77387837, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 48.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.35730
Mar 06 10:18:13 <Chaang-Noi>	wow
Mar 06 10:18:37 <Bugpowdrr>	I don't want to go over the FACTA limit :-P
Mar 06 10:18:40 <Chaang-Noi>	low 39, high 48.5
Mar 06 10:18:48 <ThickAsThieves>	no correction needed yet if we're on our way to 150 or such
Mar 06 10:18:55 <EskimoBob>	FACTA limit?
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Mar 06 10:19:12 <Bowjob>	Mentlegen, we are the new wealty elite
Mar 06 10:19:35 *	aiball is now known as doctor_pullfinge
Mar 06 10:19:38 <Bowjob>	We need to focus on the bigger picture. Hookers and blow are gonna be so cheap for us.. real estate, ect
Mar 06 10:19:44 <Bugpowdrr>	$50k in foriegn account
Mar 06 10:19:56 <Bowjob>	How about we think of a way to help the world
Mar 06 10:19:57 <Bugpowdrr>	triggers facta issues
Mar 06 10:20:24 <Bugpowdrr>	$10k is FBAR reporting req
Mar 06 10:20:26 <ThickAsThieves>	we can help the world by telling them to buy more coins
Mar 06 10:20:37 <Bowjob>	it be hilarious if a small country's GDP would be like 10 BTC
Mar 06 10:20:44 <EskimoBob>	is it 4K USD?
Mar 06 10:20:51 <Bugpowdrr>	FATCA
Mar 06 10:20:55 <Bugpowdrr>	not FACTA sorry
Mar 06 10:21:26 <EskimoBob>	OK
Mar 06 10:21:29 <EskimoBob>	Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act
Mar 06 10:21:46 <Bugpowdrr>	http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Corporations/InformationforUSTaxpayers
Mar 06 10:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00414309 = 1.6117 BTC [+]
Mar 06 10:21:55 <Bugpowdrr>	$4850
Mar 06 10:22:00 <Bugpowdrr>	$48.50
Mar 06 10:23:14 <blu3gr1ffon>	.001BTC is apparently not enough off TXN fee anymore, is it?
Mar 06 10:23:21 <Bugpowdrr>	Bunch of bubbleheads in here
Mar 06 10:23:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 200 @ 0.005025 = 1.005 BTC [-]
Mar 06 10:23:56 <EskimoBob>	Bugpowdrr: gigavps will introduce many to the joys of IRS tax returns
Mar 06 10:24:08 <Bugpowdrr>	LOL
Mar 06 10:24:10 <doctor_pullfinge>	Bugpowdrr - since when (at what price) did you go negative?
Mar 06 10:24:19 <Bugpowdrr>	it's not so much the price
Mar 06 10:24:24 <Bugpowdrr>	as the RATE of increase
Mar 06 10:24:25 <Bowjob>	how can btc gain global traction if the blocksize limit is so small
Mar 06 10:24:33 <EskimoBob>	it can not
Mar 06 10:24:38 <Bugpowdrr>	I am long term bullish
Mar 06 10:24:48 <EskimoBob>	if one spmmer like s.dice can bring it almost to it's knees ...
Mar 06 10:25:01 <Bugpowdrr>	but this is CLASSIC parabolic blow off top
Mar 06 10:25:19 <error4733>	prove it
Mar 06 10:25:26 <doctor_pullfinge>	classic as in the DOW?
Mar 06 10:25:29 <unbalanced>	EskimoBob: doesn't s.dice pay a lot to miners through fees?
Mar 06 10:25:32 <Bowjob>	sell 100% of your coins
Mar 06 10:25:33 <Bowjob>	do itt
Mar 06 10:25:34 <ThickAsThieves>	nothing classic about bitcoin
Mar 06 10:25:38 <unbalanced>	Or am I ill informed?
Mar 06 10:25:39 <Bugpowdrr>	well
Mar 06 10:25:42 <EskimoBob>	imagine 100K people doing daily transactions... puff
Mar 06 10:25:48 <Bugpowdrr>	I'm putting my money where my mouth is here
Mar 06 10:26:03 <doctor_pullfinge>	me too FAZ
Mar 06 10:26:11 <doctor_pullfinge>	and BTC
Mar 06 10:26:16 <Bugpowdrr>	FAZ has way too much slippage
Mar 06 10:26:18 <ThickAsThieves>	will you eat your hat next week when price is 65?
Mar 06 10:26:23 <EskimoBob>	unbalanced: so the future is more expensive transactions than bank and CC?
Mar 06 10:26:30 <EskimoBob>	what's the point then :)
Mar 06 10:26:33 <Bugpowdrr>	I will be VERY HAPPY if its $65 next week
Mar 06 10:26:42 <Bowjob>	bug, buy puts as well
Mar 06 10:26:42 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 10:27:02 <Bugpowdrr>	Puts prices are being set at 43.57 right now!
Mar 06 10:27:11 <Bugpowdrr>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 06 10:27:12 <gribble>	43.47
Mar 06 10:27:17 <Bugpowdrr>	43.47
Mar 06 10:27:22 <Bugpowdrr>	so NO don't buy puts
Mar 06 10:27:33 <Bowjob>	if I sleep.. ill wake up to $50
Mar 06 10:27:33 <Bugpowdrr>	calls make sense if you think it will stay here for more than 24 hours
Mar 06 10:27:35 <Bowjob>	jeez
Mar 06 10:27:43 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 06 10:27:45 <gribble>	1 BTC = 48.49800 U.S. dollars = 37.2116934 Euros
Mar 06 10:28:06 <unbalanced>	EskimoBob: Ah so the fee rate won't adjust somehow and if someone wants to buy a coffee with BTC the fees will be bigger than the coffee?
Mar 06 10:28:26 <unbalanced>	Just trying to grok all this, my head is spinning.
Mar 06 10:28:58 <doctor_pullfinge>	unbalanced - buy low sell high - ignore everything else
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Mar 06 10:29:27 <imsaguy>	ACtually, the way things are trigger, it costs more in fees to buy a coffee than it does to buy a house
Mar 06 10:29:34 <imsaguy>	triggered*
Mar 06 10:29:43 <EskimoBob>	unbalanced: yes and mining will be only for huge banks ... we are back where we started
Mar 06 10:29:44 <imsaguy>	small tx amounts require larger fees
Mar 06 10:30:15 <imsaguy>	your $5 coffee will cost more in fees than a $50k car
Mar 06 10:30:22 <Bugpowdrr>	bitcoin is not for coffee
Mar 06 10:30:26 <EskimoBob>	expencive, centrally controlled ... h
Mar 06 10:30:32 <imsaguy>	Bugpowdrr: but currency
Mar 06 10:30:32 <Chaang-Noi>	that is why LTC :)
Mar 06 10:30:32 <Bugpowdrr>	its for shipments of coffee
Mar 06 10:30:43 <Bugpowdrr>	its not good for POS transactions
Mar 06 10:30:51 <imsaguy>	but currency
Mar 06 10:30:52 <Bowjob>	someone crash LTC please, I wanna buy in
Mar 06 10:30:54 <Bugpowdrr>	unless there is another frontend on it
Mar 06 10:31:00 <Bugpowdrr>	48.70
Mar 06 10:31:06 <jurov>	Chaang-Noi: did LTC resolve the blocksize/fees problem intelligently? if not, stfu
Mar 06 10:31:33 <Chaang-Noi>	jurov they can do a significant more than btc yeah
Mar 06 10:31:34 <unbalanced>	Anyone have theories as to why this runup is so fast then? Is it driven by MPEX futures, or trader manipulation, or is this how the Fed kills BTC: it just buys them all?
Mar 06 10:31:34 <jcpham>	i'm willing to sell one bitcoin today for 50 bucks
Mar 06 10:31:37 <jcpham>	but only one
Mar 06 10:31:44 <jurov>	plus, ltc is still at 0.6, thrashing the hdd like hell
Mar 06 10:31:52 <jurov>	*version 0.6
Mar 06 10:32:02 <doctor_pullfinge>	unbalanced - Ashton Kutcher invested last week.
Mar 06 10:32:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i think the coinlab stuff, the amazon bitpay stuff, anme cheap, mega.. everything....
Mar 06 10:32:05 <EskimoBob>	unbalanced: mpex has NOTHING to do with this
Mar 06 10:32:06 <doctor_pullfinge>	he's bigtime
Mar 06 10:32:08 <Chaang-Noi>	its all massive good news...
Mar 06 10:32:29 <pigeons>	what is "the amazon bitpay stuff"?
Mar 06 10:32:39 <EskimoBob>	pigeons: what?
Mar 06 10:32:49 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons http://www.fortmilltimes.com/2013/03/06/2538174/bitpay-integrates-bitcoin-with.html
Mar 06 10:33:00 <pigeons>	how is coinlab good news
Mar 06 10:33:15 <unbalanced>	doctor_pullfinge: hence someone's reference to 12yo's investing above?
Mar 06 10:33:19 <Bugpowdrr>	its possibly good news
Mar 06 10:33:23 <EskimoBob>	"BitPay, the world’s leading payment processor for bitcoin payments, announces that it has integrated its service with Amazon.com’s"
Mar 06 10:33:24 <Bugpowdrr>	possible disaster
Mar 06 10:33:26 <EskimoBob>	no shit!
Mar 06 10:33:28 <Chaang-Noi>	coinlabs making it so walls treat people can pour in 1 billion or whatever of other peoples money to "invest"
Mar 06 10:33:29 <BitHub>	how much is expected from ASICMINER per share this div?
Mar 06 10:33:30 <pigeons>	will people outside of us still have access to the coinlab usd market?
Mar 06 10:33:43 <Bowjob>	yawn
Mar 06 10:33:50 <Bowjob>	see you guys at 50
Mar 06 10:33:54 <Bowjob>	oyasumi.
Mar 06 10:34:14 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons i dont know.. but we need more than mt gox/coin lab anyway, let wall street have that, we can do our own...
Mar 06 10:34:16 <pigeons>	holy shit fort mill times
Mar 06 10:34:27 <pigeons>	i lived there no one else uses bitcoin there
Mar 06 10:34:35 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 06 10:34:36 <Bugpowdrr>	yah bitpay news sounds big
Mar 06 10:34:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess no one knew about it but me?
Mar 06 10:34:56 <smickles>	EskimoBob: it's a little less centrally controlled than usd tho
Mar 06 10:35:04 <imsaguy>	but is it?
Mar 06 10:35:13 <Chaang-Noi>	eskimoob i heard your mugs are cool, can i see a photo?
Mar 06 10:35:16 <imsaguy>	a handful of people make the rules that the rest of the network blindly follows
Mar 06 10:35:17 <smickles>	yeah, clients have to approve a change too
Mar 06 10:35:25 <smickles>	and clients are individuals
Mar 06 10:35:28 <imsaguy>	most people run unmodified clients
Mar 06 10:35:31 <imsaguy>	they are isheep
Mar 06 10:35:42 <imsaguy>	lemmings
Mar 06 10:35:46 <Bugpowdrr>	48.80
Mar 06 10:35:47 <smickles>	well, i did say "a little"
Mar 06 10:36:09 <smickles>	i mean, i can't really oppose changes to the USD
Mar 06 10:36:16 <jcpham>	someone at the fortmill times is a nerd
Mar 06 10:36:37 <smickles>	but I can participate in a hard fork if things go sour
Mar 06 10:36:44 <imsaguy>	you could use euros
Mar 06 10:36:46 <jcpham>	hi smickles
Mar 06 10:36:48 <Chaang-Noi>	that is pretty big ass news.. how did they only have it?
Mar 06 10:36:50 <jcpham>	i need an accountant
Mar 06 10:36:58 <jcpham>	specificalyy an estate accountant
Mar 06 10:37:00 <smickles>	I have an accounting service
Mar 06 10:37:05 <Chaang-Noi>	eskimobob link to photos of your mugs? still ahve more to sell?
Mar 06 10:37:11 <jcpham>	i have a 24k check i want to keep
Mar 06 10:37:17 <jcpham>	and not deposit in abank
Mar 06 10:37:27 <jcpham>	how do i keep it for myself
Mar 06 10:37:37 <jcpham>	and not pay any to the government
Mar 06 10:37:52 <smickles>	jcpham: sounds like you want a lawyer first
Mar 06 10:38:00 <jcpham>	fudge
Mar 06 10:38:10 <jcpham>	the check is made out to my dead grandmother's estate
Mar 06 10:38:14 <smickles>	as an accountant in 'merica, i can't give legal advice
Mar 06 10:38:16 <jcpham>	you can't help me launder it?
Mar 06 10:38:23 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitpay-integrates-bitcoin-with-fulfillment-by-amazoncom-2013-03-06
Mar 06 10:38:37 <jcpham>	that was both rhetorical and a joke
Mar 06 10:39:00 <imsaguy>	jcpham: who's the executor?
Mar 06 10:39:05 <jcpham>	me
Mar 06 10:39:07 <smickles>	jcpham: if you are trying to launder money, why not endorse the check to someone for bitcoins
Mar 06 10:39:16 <Chaang-Noi>	BitPay's integration with Amazon currently works with WordPress.com, the world's most popular web publishing software, and WooCommerce, a comprehensive eCommerce platform for WordPress.
Mar 06 10:39:59 <smickles>	send the coins through some mixers, and then buy wooden Austin,TX farmers market coins with the bitcoins
Mar 06 10:40:04 <doctor_pullfinge>	jcpham - USD cash way better for laundering
Mar 06 10:40:09 <smickles>	it's a fool-proof plan
Mar 06 10:40:18 <jcpham>	channel full of criminals
Mar 06 10:40:20 <jcpham>	i knew it
Mar 06 10:40:24 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 06 10:40:32 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer pay out already, i need sleep:)
Mar 06 10:40:47 <unbalanced>	EskimoBob: re: mpex has nothing to do with this, I didn't mean mpex's site issue today, I just meant does trading futures/options on mpex lead to more (less?) volatility in BTC?
Mar 06 10:40:53 <imsaguy>	asicminer doesn't pay until Thursday
Mar 06 10:40:56 <imsaguy>	its only Wednesday
Mar 06 10:40:57 <imsaguy>	derp
Mar 06 10:41:11 <Chaang-Noi>	op says wednesday....
Mar 06 10:41:23 <imsaguy>	Wednesday is 24 hours long
Mar 06 10:41:23 <Chaang-Noi>	he never said he was going to change it... derp
Mar 06 10:41:23 <Ukto>	there was a test payment earlier
Mar 06 10:41:30 <imsaguy>	not everyone is awake on your timezone
Mar 06 10:41:35 <Chaang-Noi>	wednesday in china is almost up...
Mar 06 10:41:45 <Ukto>	its 9:42 in the us tho
Mar 06 10:42:00 <Ukto>	14ish hours until its fully gone
Mar 06 10:42:04 <Bugpowdrr>	So were to set the bids for the crash?
Mar 06 10:42:07 <Bugpowdrr>	$36?
Mar 06 10:42:21 <Chaang-Noi>	36 seems fair
Mar 06 10:42:27 <imsaguy>	and now the thread has 300 people all saying they got 1 satoshi/share
Mar 06 10:42:31 <imsaguy>	lemmings!
Mar 06 10:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
Mar 06 10:43:13 <Chaang-Noi>	if friedcat wants to pay on thursdays thats cool, but he should tell us:)
Mar 06 10:43:19 <imsaguy>	and you're right, the last payment was 4 hours ago last week
Mar 06 10:43:39 <imsaguy>	but considering not all the test payments have confirmed yet
Mar 06 10:43:44 <imsaguy>	I doubt he'll send the full amount
Mar 06 10:43:46 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
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Mar 06 10:43:54 <Chaang-Noi>	he did not wait last time
Mar 06 10:44:04 <imsaguy>	yes he did
Mar 06 10:44:04 <Chaang-Noi>	he cant wait, somepeople wont ever confirm
Mar 06 10:44:09 <imsaguy>	they ere 5 hours apart
Mar 06 10:44:14 <Chaang-Noi>	49!
Mar 06 10:44:15 <imsaguy>	confirmed by the blockchain twit
Mar 06 10:44:22 <imsaguy>	not by some lemming on the forum
Mar 06 10:44:34 <Chaang-Noi>	he waited some time, he did not wait for 100% of people to confirm
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Mar 06 10:44:42 <smickles>	< imsaguy> Wednesday is 24 hours long << or 28, depending on how you count timezones
Mar 06 10:44:44 <imsaguy>	I didn't say he waited for people to confirm
Mar 06 10:44:52 <imsaguy>	I said he waited for the blockchain to confirm
Mar 06 10:44:58 <Chaang-Noi>	okay, im multi tasking, calm down
Mar 06 10:45:05 <imsaguy>	ok twit
Mar 06 10:45:12 <Chaang-Noi>	classy...
Mar 06 10:45:18 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 49
Mar 06 10:45:18 <gribble>	There are currently 420.09147 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 20573.7459579 USD in total. | Data vintage: 93.0439 seconds
Mar 06 10:45:54 <Bowjob>	were rich
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Mar 06 10:46:16 <Chaang-Noi>	i haz 5 btc! fuck yeah!
Mar 06 10:46:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 06 10:46:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.90000, Best ask: 48.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 48.90000, 24 hour volume: 98725.47056383, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.00000, 24 hour vwap: 43.52904
Mar 06 10:47:04 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 10:47:07 <gribble>	176.105766 seconds
Mar 06 10:48:05 <Chaang-Noi>	49.1
Mar 06 10:48:13 <doctor_pullfinge>	drink!
Mar 06 10:48:26 <doctor_pullfinge>	where's apex anyone have news on site being down?
Mar 06 10:48:29 <doctor_pullfinge>	mpex
Mar 06 10:48:36 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 50
Mar 06 10:48:36 <gribble>	There are currently 8385.6763 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 416077.619858 USD in total. | Data vintage: 71.0702 seconds
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Mar 06 10:49:42 <smickles>	doctor_pullfinge: weren't you here for that discussion?
Mar 06 10:50:09 <doctor_pullfinge>	I was not - not looking for a book, just has mp acknowledged anything
Mar 06 10:50:33 <smickles>	it's either that mircea's sex dungeon prisoners finally revolted, or use mpex.coinbr.com while mpex.co is down
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Mar 06 10:51:31 <smickles>	mpex.coinbr.com is one of many proxies to the mpex backend, and since all you send is encrypted, it doesn't matter that you are sending info thru a third party
Mar 06 10:51:45 <Chaang-Noi>	Most Online Today: 1541. Most Online Ever: 3809         we have a long way to go :)
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Mar 06 10:52:35 <doctor_pullfinge>	so, mp is sleeping.  I'm not looking to make a trade,  just worried about another pirate40 situation.
Mar 06 10:52:56 <blu3gr1ffon>	you should be, now'd be a good time to disappear.
Mar 06 10:53:03 <blu3gr1ffon>	but he has no need to.
Mar 06 10:53:06 <imsaguy>	smickles: good point (tz)
Mar 06 10:54:06 <doctor_pullfinge>	is coiner able to send trades through to the backend?  I have a seat on the back end and STAT don't works
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Mar 06 10:54:06 <smickles>	blu3gr1ffon: thing is, as long as the traders keep s.mpoe worth more than he would get by running with the money, he has a financial interest to stay
Mar 06 10:54:16 <doctor_pullfinge>	coinbr
Mar 06 10:54:26 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 49.999
Mar 06 10:54:29 <gribble>	There are currently 6264.6484 bitcoins offered at or under 49.999 USD, worth 310249.908414 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.1208 seconds
Mar 06 10:55:09 <BitHub>	did anyone see his post recently about thinking of retirement?
Mar 06 10:55:11 <BitHub>	eeeo
Mar 06 10:55:20 <smickles>	doctor_pullfinge: my stats are working tru mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 10:55:31 <smickles>	*thru
Mar 06 10:56:18 <doctor_pullfinge>	smickles - thanks - I feel better.  Back to worrying about why s.dice is tanking.
Mar 06 10:56:24 <Chaang-Noi>	http://blockchain.info/  last two blocks... ooopsss
Mar 06 10:56:28 <smickles>	and what do you mean 'a seat on the backend', if you have a connection to the backend which isn't a proxy, why are you worried about the other proxies?
Mar 06 10:56:38 <BitHub>	people sick of s.dice?
Mar 06 10:56:49 <BitHub>	div was smaller
Mar 06 10:57:19 <doctor_pullfinge>	I paid the 30 btc for a seat directly on mpex.  coin.br is a passthrough, so may be cacheing the info.
Mar 06 10:57:51 <Ukto>	i bought my sdice at or below 0.0044
Mar 06 10:57:54 <smickles>	doctor_pullfinge: i think you are a little confused here
Mar 06 10:57:57 <Ukto>	so im not that worried about it yet
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Mar 06 10:58:18 <doctor_pullfinge>	I think the div was bigger in terms of USD, but mainly I think people spend x% of their USD based paycheck on s.dice.  So, BTC dividend amount goes down
Mar 06 10:58:28 <doctor_pullfinge>	when price of btc goes up
Mar 06 10:58:33 <smickles>	coinbr is a broker (passthru, whatever) mpex.coinbr.com is a proxy to the backend system which is mpex
Mar 06 10:58:37 <Ukto>	besides, JAH is a better deal atm. daily divs at 10% or something, plus compounded earnings from reinvestment
Mar 06 10:58:50 <BitHub>	yeah the jah shares are crazy Ukto
Mar 06 10:58:55 <smickles>	you can send a STATJSON or whatever you want through that proxy
Mar 06 10:59:04 <BitHub>	seems to be better than ASICMINER atm
Mar 06 10:59:04 <smickles>	as if you sent it to mpex.co
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Mar 06 10:59:06 <doctor_pullfinge>	thanks smickles.  you cleared it up for me
Mar 06 10:59:13 <smickles>	glad to help :)
Mar 06 10:59:18 <kakobrekla>	JAH got asics or what
Mar 06 10:59:24 <Ukto>	i think by 30 days of jah its like a 15%+ monthly profit
Mar 06 10:59:26 <BitHub>	yeah he got asicminer shares
Mar 06 10:59:31 <kakobrekla>	a
Mar 06 10:59:47 <Ukto>	well worth over the .3
Mar 06 10:59:51 <ThickAsThieves>	random off-topic idea, skype and facebook should show squiggly underlines on mispelled words, could teach the masses so easily
Mar 06 11:00:11 <BitHub>	that's why div so good
Mar 06 11:00:25 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: that's more of an OS issue, isn't it?
Mar 06 11:00:49 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: I mean, nearly all text input fields on my compy do spelling correction
Mar 06 11:01:20 <ThickAsThieves>	facebook does?
Mar 06 11:01:26 <ThickAsThieves>	skype does?
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Mar 06 11:02:06 <ThickAsThieves>	oh,
Mar 06 11:02:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean on the output
Mar 06 11:02:11 <Ukto>	btw, 6,345 asicminer shares confirmed by fridcat on G.ASICMINER-PT now
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Mar 06 11:02:19 <ThickAsThieves>	so everyone can see
Mar 06 11:02:35 <jurov>	doctor_pullfinge, since pgp is used,coinbr has no way to tamper with your orders nor replies
Mar 06 11:02:43 <Chaang-Noi>	6k wow
Mar 06 11:02:55 <Ukto>	thats just the confirmed
Mar 06 11:03:00 <EskimoBob>	"BitHub | people sick of s.dice?" have you ever plaid this game?
Mar 06 11:03:00 <jurov>	and as for caching, make sure to check signature date so it's aways different
Mar 06 11:03:04 <Ukto>	not including alot more pending in transit
Mar 06 11:03:07 <jurov>	for example
Mar 06 11:03:14 <BitHub>	yeah just recently
Mar 06 11:03:16 <BitHub>	really boring
Mar 06 11:03:20 <EskimoBob>	it is
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Mar 06 11:03:25 <Ukto>	you dont play it for fun
Mar 06 11:03:27 <Ukto>	you play it for odds
Mar 06 11:03:30 <EskimoBob>	?
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Mar 06 11:03:37 <doctor_pullfinge>	I just went to coinbr and don't see any "last update" information.  So I still think that could just be the last time that mpex was up.
Mar 06 11:03:44 <error4733>	1.9 edge is nothing
Mar 06 11:03:54 <error4733>	so it's good for a gambler to pay there
Mar 06 11:03:59 <Chaang-Noi>	ceasssh
Mar 06 11:04:00 <error4733>	even if it's boring
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Mar 06 11:04:21 <smickles>	coinbr != mpex.coinbr
Mar 06 11:04:22 <EskimoBob>	where do you see mpex real time trade charts with history
Mar 06 11:04:27 <blu3gr1ffon>	I'm sending larger txn fees in the future.
Mar 06 11:04:44 <BitHub>	i might sell off some dice and buy up some jah instead
Mar 06 11:04:44 <smickles>	EskimoBob: how long of a history?
Mar 06 11:04:45 <EskimoBob>	those numbers that pr-fluff throws around sound like total BS
Mar 06 11:04:46 <blu3gr1ffon>	what's a good fee these days for sub 10 minute 6 confirmations?
Mar 06 11:04:52 <BitHub>	increase teh divs
Mar 06 11:04:57 <EskimoBob>	smickles: 6 months?
Mar 06 11:05:22 <EskimoBob>	not some crap they show on their page. Something aggregated
Mar 06 11:05:33 <jurov>	doctor_pullfinge, since mpex didn't issue any statement, we don't have anything for an update
Mar 06 11:05:56 <EskimoBob>	jurov: it had a sigh on the page - never hacked blaa blaa blaa
Mar 06 11:05:58 <smickles>	EskimoBob: i don't think anyone who is recording that info has mad it public
Mar 06 11:06:12 <jurov>	coinbr just runs the proxy alongside our broker interface
Mar 06 11:06:21 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 06 11:06:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.71000, Best ask: 48.71350, Bid-ask spread: 0.00350, Last trade: 48.71000, 24 hour volume: 98576.32628072, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.71889
Mar 06 11:06:29 <EskimoBob>	smickles: so pr-fluff can pull any number out of her bloated head and present it as a fact?
Mar 06 11:06:31 <error4733>	in fact is not hacked, you can make order
Mar 06 11:06:37 <EskimoBob>	wonderful
Mar 06 11:06:42 <Bugpowdrr>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 11:06:44 <gribble>	353.26605 seconds
Mar 06 11:07:19 <EskimoBob>	or is is "bloated ass".. in her case, there is no difference
Mar 06 11:07:26 <doctor_pullfinge>	jurov - is the mpex back end down and mp not around?
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Mar 06 11:08:02 <EskimoBob>	mp is getting his ass kicked buy local gypsy thugs
Mar 06 11:08:05 <EskimoBob>	LOL
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Mar 06 11:08:37 <smickles>	http://imgur.com/JHhGmR0
Mar 06 11:08:44 <smickles>	what mpex looks like to me currently
Mar 06 11:09:00 <jurov>	doctor_pullfinge i don't know anything about mp... except he does have irc client opened, that's a good sign perhaps
Mar 06 11:09:01 <smickles>	(well, moments ago, anyway)
Mar 06 11:09:27 <Bugpowdrr>	getting goxxed
Mar 06 11:09:35 <Bugpowdrr>	order pending for 5 minutes
Mar 06 11:09:45 <Ukto>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 11:09:46 <gribble>	342.802364 seconds
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Mar 06 11:09:49 <doctor_pullfinge>	but that's a pass-through page that might be cached from last night.
Mar 06 11:09:50 <Ukto>	not that bad :P
Mar 06 11:10:25 <smickles>	doctor_pullfinge: not the thing that I screenshotted
Mar 06 11:10:25 <doctor_pullfinge>	I agree this is not freak out time.  I'm trying to understand what this mpex.coinbr.com thing really is.
Mar 06 11:10:30 <jurov>	doctor_pullfinge, scroll back to last trade by assbot, compare to the site
Mar 06 11:10:42 <Ukto>	Bugpowdrr: wait another 5 min, see if it goes through
Mar 06 11:10:43 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 06 11:10:49 <blu3gr1ffon>	that goxlag is thick
Mar 06 11:10:52 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 06 11:10:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.58643, Best ask: 48.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11357, Last trade: 48.90000, 24 hour volume: 97948.57311533, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.75867
Mar 06 11:10:54 <smickles>	doctor_pullfinge: it is pretty much a replication of mpex.co
Mar 06 11:10:56 <Ukto>	only over 5min
Mar 06 11:10:56 <Diablo-D3>	lol.
Mar 06 11:10:58 <jurov>	doctor_pullfinge it's a proxy that we sewt up after last ddos
Mar 06 11:10:59 <smickles>	the mpex frontend
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Mar 06 11:11:10 <smickles>	and there are other proxies too
Mar 06 11:11:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 06 11:11:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.58643, Best ask: 48.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11357, Last trade: 48.70000, 24 hour volume: 97945.57336925, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.75887
Mar 06 11:11:22 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 06 11:11:32 <thestringpuller>	>:(
Mar 06 11:11:38 <smickles>	and "proxy" does not equal "passthrough"
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Mar 06 11:11:46 <assbot>	I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
Mar 06 11:11:52 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 10000
Mar 06 11:11:52 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 453945.1459 USD and would take the last price down to 43.3310 USD, resulting in an average price of 45.3945 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 106.9176 seconds
Mar 06 11:12:03 <Ukto>	on CNN http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/
Mar 06 11:12:09 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 100000
Mar 06 11:12:09 <smickles>	thestringpuller: 7day OIX :
Mar 06 11:12:09 <smickles>	47.45 (50.15 / 29.08)
Mar 06 11:12:10 <smickles>	13`996.17 (87.2 / 12.8)
Mar 06 11:12:15 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2998627.3527 USD and would take the last price down to 16.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 29.9863 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0098 seconds
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Mar 06 11:12:38 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 1000000
Mar 06 11:12:38 <gribble>	A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 4312499.9219 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 4.3125 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 23.1310 seconds
Mar 06 11:12:52 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 06 11:12:53 <Bugpowdrr>	still pending
Mar 06 11:12:54 <gribble>	1 BTC = 48.71000 U.S. dollars = 37.3743574 Euros
Mar 06 11:12:58 <Bugpowdrr>	fuck it
Mar 06 11:13:00 <Bugpowdrr>	whatever
Mar 06 11:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.45 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Mar 06 11:13:06 <Ukto>	cnn will drag in more bidders
Mar 06 11:13:32 <smickles>	cnn?
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Mar 06 11:13:58 <smickles>	oooh
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Mar 06 11:14:16 <smickles>	why is this cyber currency trading at an all time high?
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Mar 06 11:14:23 <smickles>	pleas tell me steve hargreaves
Mar 06 11:14:27 <jurov>	doing test buy order for 123 S.DICE...
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Mar 06 11:14:42 <Bugpowdrr>	ask is up!
Mar 06 11:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 123 @ 0.0045 = 0.5535 BTC [+]
Mar 06 11:15:02 <jurov>	so, all is working except mpex.co website
Mar 06 11:15:04 <EskimoBob>	dice, go down a bit more so I can buy 2x what I sold :)
Mar 06 11:15:12 <EskimoBob>	or nor
Mar 06 11:15:15 <error4733>	smiclkles, you have to finish your taxreturn ?
Mar 06 11:15:15 <smickles>	jurov: but will doctor_pullfingr believe that assbot gets data from a reliable source?
Mar 06 11:15:18 <EskimoBob>	*not
Mar 06 11:15:36 <EskimoBob>	any of you have gigamining?
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Mar 06 11:16:05 <EskimoBob>	any thoughts on how you fill your tax returns, especially if you are not in US
Mar 06 11:16:10 <jurov>	smickles, doctor_pullfingr should pull fingers out of his ass and try it himself
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Mar 06 11:16:46 <doctor_pullfingr>	doctor_pullfingr just needs a timestamp  not a big deal.  I can see the site,  but assbot only shows HAVELOCK trades.
Mar 06 11:16:48 <jurov>	pardon the pun
Mar 06 11:18:05 <jurov>	doctor_pullfingr so you did a mpex trade like i just did and assbot did not show it?
Mar 06 11:18:19 <jurov>	nor http://mpex.coinbr.com/?mpsic=<asset> did?
Mar 06 11:18:30 <jurov>	it shows most recent trade in title
Mar 06 11:18:31 <smickles>	i saw assbot show it
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Mar 06 11:19:12 <smickles>	16:14 <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 123 @ 0.0045 = 0.5535 BTC [+]
Mar 06 11:19:34 <smickles>	which came shortly after "16:14 < jurov> doing test buy order for 123 S.DICE..."
Mar 06 11:19:44 <doctor_pullfingr>	sorry jurov - I see the assbot trade and the timestamp.  I'll shut my mouth now and get to work.  Fluorescent lighting awaits.
Mar 06 11:19:57 <jurov>	no problem ;)
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Mar 06 11:20:41 <Bugpowdrr>	this is the top
Mar 06 11:20:49 <doctor_pullfingr>	again?
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Mar 06 11:20:55 <jcpham>	"The U.S. dollar is an obvious Ponzi scheme," said Thomas, who thinks the U.S. government has too much debt to raise interest rates high enough to defend the dollar if there were ever a run on it. With Bitcoin, "you feel like you're in control of your money."
Mar 06 11:20:57 <Bugpowdrr>	darn
Mar 06 11:21:03 <Bugpowdrr>	gox was to sow
Mar 06 11:21:03 <jcpham>	last paragraph of that CNN article wins
Mar 06 11:21:13 <Bugpowdrr>	slow
Mar 06 11:21:20 <smickles>	jcpham: i was just about to quote that too
Mar 06 11:21:25 <jcpham>	http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/
Mar 06 11:21:33 <jcpham>	it's nice
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Mar 06 11:21:37 <jcpham>	to see it so bluntly
Mar 06 11:21:39 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 11:21:40 <gribble>	310.220931 seconds
Mar 06 11:21:45 <Bugpowdrr>	god damn
Mar 06 11:21:54 <Bugpowdrr>	missed the top
Mar 06 11:21:58 <deadweasel>	me too
Mar 06 11:22:02 <Bugpowdrr>	too slow to change the order now
Mar 06 11:22:05 <smickles>	Bugpowdrr: at least they arn't running a CS server
Mar 06 11:22:55 <Bugpowdrr>	they are running a site that is trading $5MM in currency a day
Mar 06 11:23:14 <deadweasel>	srsly, get the servers together, have peak resources
Mar 06 11:23:15 <deadweasel>	this is stupid
Mar 06 11:25:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00070427 = 8.6273 BTC [+]
Mar 06 11:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1326 @ 0.0007105 = 0.9421 BTC [+]
Mar 06 11:32:30 <ThickAsThieves>	that cnn article is a little retarded
Mar 06 11:32:57 <ThickAsThieves>	"Because the number of transactions and overall value of coins in circulation is relatively low, the currency is quite volatile -- it went from under $1 to over $28, then back to $7 in 2011 alone."
Mar 06 11:33:22 <PsychoticBoy>	will happen again
Mar 06 11:33:23 <ThickAsThieves>	one event means volatility in 2013?
Mar 06 11:33:27 <Bugpowdrr>	tanking
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Mar 06 11:33:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
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Mar 06 11:33:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35100, Best ask: 48.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.64900, Last trade: 47.35100, 24 hour volume: 97534.97841476, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.87966
Mar 06 11:34:10 <Bugpowdrr>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 11:34:12 <gribble>	690.899964 seconds
Mar 06 11:34:16 <ThickAsThieves>	ugh
Mar 06 11:34:24 <Bugpowdrr>	prepare for tankage
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Mar 06 11:36:41 <deadweasel>	dafuq 45 minutes only at 5 confirmations, with .005 fee
Mar 06 11:37:11 <smickles>	deadweasel: the fee will only affect when it gets conf 1
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Mar 06 11:37:21 <Bugpowdrr>	when those confirmations go thru, price is gonna drop
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Mar 06 11:38:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.0045 = 0.8505 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 11:39:37 <Bugpowdrr>	why did I sell at 48 insteady of 47.99? why
Mar 06 11:39:38 <deadweasel>	smickles:  I did not know that.
Mar 06 11:39:57 <deadweasel>	smickles: thank you
Mar 06 11:40:50 <imsaguy>	ThickAsThieves: the example is a bad analogy, sure
Mar 06 11:40:56 <imsaguy>	give it time, there will be another tanking
Mar 06 11:41:22 <Bugpowdrr>	yesssss
Mar 06 11:41:24 <Bugpowdrr>	getting filled
Mar 06 11:41:24 <imsaguy>	how much of the tx volume today is the same coins being sent over and over?
Mar 06 11:41:39 <jurov>	"Mt. Gox found its operations hindered by its lack of proximity to the tech sector." lol now that's an excuse
Mar 06 11:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00072389 = 1.8821 BTC [+]
Mar 06 11:42:10 <imsaguy>	mtgox was a hackjob originally trading magic cards
Mar 06 11:42:19 <imsaguy>	they always leave that part out
Mar 06 11:42:34 <deadweasel>	Magix; The Gatherings, online exchange
Mar 06 11:42:53 <deadweasel>	I fireballed your leviathan
Mar 06 11:42:55 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 06 11:42:58 <gribble>	1 BTC = 47.75000 U.S. dollars = 36.6377657 Euros
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Mar 06 11:43:07 <jurov>	i should ask mp about his "proximity to the tech sector"
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Mar 06 11:43:26 <jurov>	or evoorhees
Mar 06 11:43:44 <jurov>	or eskimobob lmao
Mar 06 11:43:49 <imsaguy>	I'm sure mp is fairly proximal to the tech 'sector' right now ;)
Mar 06 11:44:19 <mircea_popescu>	hi all.
Mar 06 11:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	if you're having trouble loading trilema, please flush your dns.
Mar 06 11:44:47 <mjr_>	yay
Mar 06 11:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	and otherwise, mpex,co is being ddosed by someone too stupid to know that doesn't work.
Mar 06 11:44:54 <ZedsterX>	i never load it no problem
Mar 06 11:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	use the various proxies, such as
Mar 06 11:45:05 <ZedsterX>	:)
Mar 06 11:45:15 <error4733>	hi mp
Mar 06 11:45:26 <smickles>	damn, i thought your sexdungeon revolted
Mar 06 11:45:31 <mod6_>	smickles!
Mar 06 11:45:38 *	mod6_ is now known as mod6
Mar 06 11:45:48 <smickles>	mod6: hiya, sorry for being away
Mar 06 11:45:55 <EskimoBob>	jurov: you are my "proximity to the tech sector"
Mar 06 11:45:58 <smickles>	hug? \o/
Mar 06 11:45:59 <EskimoBob>	lmao
Mar 06 11:46:08 *	mod6 is now known as Guest60737
Mar 06 11:46:15 <imsaguy>	smickles: \0/
Mar 06 11:46:26 <smickles>	aww
Mar 06 11:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	mpex.5gbfree.com mpex.host56.com mpex.coinbr.com etc
Mar 06 11:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	whoa smickles in da house ?!
Mar 06 11:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	when did you get out ?
Mar 06 11:46:53 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: load up a free instance of amazon?
Mar 06 11:46:54 <Guest60737>	smickles: glad u stopped back in. :)
Mar 06 11:47:05 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: earlier today
Mar 06 11:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy yeah, i got a few of those too
Mar 06 11:47:20 <kakobrekla>	5gbfree dont work
Mar 06 11:47:23 <Guest60737>	bah.. its "mod6" -- gotta reauth
Mar 06 11:47:43 <imsaguy>	Guest60737: you know about /ns release, right?
Mar 06 11:47:43 <smickles>	lol, EskimoBob, you troll https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1590968#msg1590968
Mar 06 11:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	smickles so is it a boy or a girl ?
Mar 06 11:48:05 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: tabloids say girl ;)
Mar 06 11:48:08 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: heh, well, it's a boy, and he is expected to come mid may
Mar 06 11:48:09 <deadweasel>	it's a bitbaby
Mar 06 11:48:34 <Bugpowdrr>	FILLED
Mar 06 11:48:35 <mircea_popescu>	o
Mar 06 11:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you got in early.
Mar 06 11:48:48 <Guest60737>	imsaguy: ya. working on those things now with ns & grib
Mar 06 11:49:04 <smickles>	;;seen anduck
Mar 06 11:49:05 <gribble>	anduck was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 20 hours, 24 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Anduck> uhh
Mar 06 11:49:21 <imsaguy>	oh, anduck said I was supposed to hold his coins
Mar 06 11:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	also http://pastebin.com/xfSBf759
Mar 06 11:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	for future records
Mar 06 11:49:28 <imsaguy>	he said I could have them forever
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Mar 06 11:50:17 <Chaang-Noi>	nothing from asicminer yet, hmm
Mar 06 11:51:09 <imsaguy>	scammertag!
Mar 06 11:51:13 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Mar 06 11:51:16 <gribble>	Time since last block: 7 minutes and 46 seconds
Mar 06 11:51:28 <jcpham>	for the bears: http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/7761841-patrik-korda/1616371-bitcoin-bubble-2-0
Mar 06 11:51:30 <imsaguy>	their test tx still hasn't confirmed
Mar 06 11:51:59 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, why would they need to wait though?
Mar 06 11:52:00 <imsaguy>	just goes to show that sending a bunch of microdust without paying a respectible fee is silly
Mar 06 11:52:02 <smickles>	imsaguy: lol
Mar 06 11:52:46 <imsaguy>	estimated btc transacted: .00023055
Mar 06 11:52:48 <smickles>	;;later tell anduck pm or email me when you get a chance
Mar 06 11:52:49 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 06 11:52:55 <imsaguy>	fees: .0005
Mar 06 11:53:54 <imsaguy>	asicminer full payment just hit
Mar 06 11:54:13 <Chaang-Noi>	just got it
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Mar 06 11:54:16 <mod6>	(08:48) < smickles> mircea_popescu: heh, well, it's a boy, and he is expected to come mid may << Nice! It's getting closer.  :]
Mar 06 11:54:19 <DeaDTerra>	yay
Mar 06 11:54:22 <DeaDTerra>	dividend received
Mar 06 11:54:26 <imsaguy>	less than the first
Mar 06 11:54:37 <imsaguy>	as expected :)
Mar 06 11:54:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i bought more shares so got more:)
Mar 06 11:55:07 <Chaang-Noi>	im going to try and guess and see their mining rate...
Mar 06 11:55:15 <imsaguy>	that doesn't make the dividend per share go up
Mar 06 11:55:16 <smickles>	mod6: indeed, and the first one is starting to walk around
Mar 06 11:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	also everyone's deposits/withdrawals flushed.
Mar 06 11:55:56 <mod6>	smickles: thats awesome man. :)
Mar 06 11:56:01 <jcpham>	The myopic are extrapolating the price trend of the past three months, which they deem is normal, and in so doing they exacerbate it to the upside, thus attracting even greater fools. The inflection point will come when the continuity of bullish thought is broken, which could be anywhere between $49/bc to $69/bc. One thing is for sure, the amount of suckers left who are willing to jump on the moving and ever accelerating train is drawing thin,
Mar 06 11:56:01 <jcpham>	 and so are their pockets.
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Mar 06 11:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham ftr the oix totally called the 50.
Mar 06 11:56:52 <Chaang-Noi>	0.01916298   per share
Mar 06 11:57:15 <imsaguy>	jcpham: where'd you copy and paste that from?
Mar 06 11:57:22 <ThickAsThieves>	didnt i say top was 69?
Mar 06 11:57:30 <imsaguy>	so now they're up to .06/share
Mar 06 11:57:31 <jcpham>	http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/7761841-patrik-korda/1616371-bitcoin-bubble-2-0
Mar 06 11:57:33 <Chaang-Noi>	3832.596   paid out...
Mar 06 11:57:36 <jcpham>	LONG READ
Mar 06 11:57:44 <jcpham>	bring a lunch
Mar 06 11:57:51 <imsaguy>	once it hits .1, divs will halve
Mar 06 11:58:23 <jurov>	mircea_popescu dunno where would the oix be if calls were available throughout
Mar 06 11:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov thing is a certain strike can't push it past a certain level
Mar 06 11:58:41 <Chaang-Noi>	okay so they ahve about 15% of the weekly coins...
Mar 06 11:58:42 <mircea_popescu>	you know what i mean ?
Mar 06 11:59:21 <Chaang-Noi>	36th x .15 = about 5.4
Mar 06 11:59:23 *	jurov wants to see C1000T
Mar 06 11:59:38 <Chaang-Noi>	hmmm... about expected, i guess tehy are not solomining
Mar 06 12:00:18 <Chaang-Noi>	imsaguy less tha halve, 20% or so will aslo be collected for new hardware
Mar 06 12:01:03 <Chaang-Noi>	so we will get like 40% of what they mine...
Mar 06 12:01:27 <PsychoticBoy>	so in the end the shares are worth under .3
Mar 06 12:01:36 <Chaang-Noi>	imsaguy how did you get .06 per share?
Mar 06 12:02:04 <Chaang-Noi>	buying more asics means more coins... and a company worth more.. cant just look at dividends
Mar 06 12:03:01 <imsaguy>	the first dividend was like .03x
Mar 06 12:03:05 <smickles>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin%2C%20mainstream&cmpt=q
Mar 06 12:03:05 <Chaang-Noi>	PsycoticBoy if we take the 40% of todays dividends and x 52 we get .416  pretty damn solid
Mar 06 12:03:06 <imsaguy>	the second was .02x
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Mar 06 12:03:09 <imsaguy>	I rounded
Mar 06 12:03:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 12:03:14 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Mar 06 12:03:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.61000, Best ask: 47.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 47.77175, 24 hour volume: 99687.93083192, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.99952
Mar 06 12:03:37 <smickles>	look, there is a corelated rise of "mainstream" with the recent rise in "bitcoin"
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Mar 06 12:03:40 <Chaang-Noi>	i think first was .2x and second .19x
Mar 06 12:04:20 <Chaang-Noi>	i see this stock being worth .5 easy, and much much more if bfl fail
Mar 06 12:04:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.21046328 = 210.4633 BTC [+]
Mar 06 12:06:20 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin&date=today%201-m&cmpt=q  lol at related terms
Mar 06 12:07:20 <mod6>	lol "bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin"
Mar 06 12:08:25 <mircea_popescu>	so how's the drama today ?
Mar 06 12:08:33 <Chaang-Noi>	drama?
Mar 06 12:08:41 <ThickAsThieves>	it's waiting
Mar 06 12:09:13 <jurov>	it's about to fall any minute purportedly
Mar 06 12:09:18 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Mar 06 12:09:56 <Chaang-Noi>	what are you guys talking about?
Mar 06 12:10:03 <mod6>	mp: thanks for getting http://mpex.5gbfree.com/ up so quick
Mar 06 12:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 06 07:58:51 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, it occurs to me, this is the right time to get hacked right ?
Mar 06 12:10:15 <mircea_popescu>	le lol.
Mar 06 12:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 it was up from before tho
Mar 06 12:10:35 <jurov>	oh and how is your proximity to the tech sector today, mircea?
Mar 06 12:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	i did nuffin
Mar 06 12:10:38 <mod6>	ah! didn't know that
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Mar 06 12:10:56 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 was a ddos back in jan, set up the entire proxy structure then. that's when jurov made his, i think smickles has one too
Mar 06 12:10:58 <mircea_popescu>	buncha them
Mar 06 12:11:00 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 12:11:02 <gribble>	75.495775 seconds
Mar 06 12:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	jurov my who ?!
Mar 06 12:11:09 <jcpham>	apparently i pasted a one liner in -otc and stopped someone from dropping 50k from a BoA from their cell phone on bitcoin
Mar 06 12:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	o rly ? cool.
Mar 06 12:11:22 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: it's the only thing i remembered from http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/
Mar 06 12:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	im just grepping this log for "hacked" atm, it's loads of fun
Mar 06 12:11:39 <jcpham>	"Rising asset prices create euphoria, and euphoria significantly drops the IQ of the participants."
Mar 06 12:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	liek Mar 06 16:13:53 <pigeons>	i can't get the only service that has never been hacked to come up
Mar 06 12:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i dunno about that. euphoria makes me sharper.
Mar 06 12:12:13 <jcpham>	i'm pretty sharp
Mar 06 12:12:17 <jcpham>	pissed off or happy
Mar 06 12:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	you're like a cheddar
Mar 06 12:12:34 <Chilca>	It's mpex working?
Mar 06 12:12:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i wouldnt call it work
Mar 06 12:12:46 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 06 12:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca it's always been working!
Mar 06 12:13:23 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: maybe is something wrong in my notebook
Mar 06 12:13:38 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: is mpex down?
Mar 06 12:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca there's a pretty dumb ddos going on the main domain. but you can use any of the proxies jsut fine
Mar 06 12:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy no.
Mar 06 12:13:57 *	imsaguy is now known as notimsaguy
Mar 06 12:14:00 <notimsaguy>	mircea_popescu: is mpex down?
Mar 06 12:14:02 <jurov>	no sorry, the proximity gem was here: http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/
Mar 06 12:14:12 *	notimsaguy is now known as imsaguy
Mar 06 12:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol wtf
Mar 06 12:14:12 <smickles>	guys, I think mpex is down
Mar 06 12:14:25 <imsaguy>	Can anyone get to mpex?
Mar 06 12:14:30 <jurov>	i can
Mar 06 12:14:30 <Chilca>	I can't
Mar 06 12:14:37 <imsaguy>	I heard mpex got hacked
Mar 06 12:14:44 <ThickAsThieves>	"The U.S. dollar is an obvious Ponzi scheme," said Thomas, who thinks the U.S. government has too much debt to raise interest rates high enough to defend the dollar if there were ever a run on it. With Bitcoin, "you feel like you're in control of your money."
Mar 06 12:14:47 <imsaguy>	the cia probably did it
Mar 06 12:14:47 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Mar 06 12:14:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.21064341 = 210.6434 BTC [+]
Mar 06 12:15:00 <Chilca>	urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 60] Operation timed out>
Mar 06 12:15:02 <mircea_popescu>	ya totally down
Mar 06 12:15:05 <mircea_popescu>	also trading.
Mar 06 12:15:07 <smickles>	I just knew the sec would get to mpex sooner or later
Mar 06 12:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	SINGULARITY
Mar 06 12:15:10 <assbot>	 imma gonna start banning
Mar 06 12:15:20 <jurov>	oh and i almost convinced a dude that coinbr bought mpex
Mar 06 12:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca : use something like mpex.coinbr.com to connect
Mar 06 12:15:30 <Chaang-Noi>	assbot :)
Mar 06 12:15:31 <ThickAsThieves>	why is assbot angry?
Mar 06 12:15:33 <smickles>	jurov: you could've too
Mar 06 12:15:36 <ThickAsThieves>	caps?
Mar 06 12:15:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol
Mar 06 12:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	watch the guy post scamtag request on you now.
Mar 06 12:16:04 <Chilca>	That's work
Mar 06 12:16:35 <Chilca>	and with ./mpex.py  ?
Mar 06 12:16:46 <jurov>	edit the url in source
Mar 06 12:16:53 <mircea_popescu>	yeah edit the url to a proxy
Mar 06 12:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	then edit it back
Mar 06 12:17:01 <imsaguy>	assbot: did you know that mpex is down?
Mar 06 12:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	and forth
Mar 06 12:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	and faster
Mar 06 12:17:05 <mircea_popescu>	slower
Mar 06 12:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	right there
Mar 06 12:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	aaahhh
Mar 06 12:17:30 <kakobrekla>	caffeine or cocaine?
Mar 06 12:17:33 <jurov>	you know i was yest in timisoara and bough some fine asics in budapest en route, that announcement raised some eyebrows, too
Mar 06 12:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	this before or after you fucked that giraffe ?
Mar 06 12:18:05 <jurov>	can't remember zactly
Mar 06 12:18:31 <mod6>	jurov must be tall to fuck a giraffe, or he likes to fuck on a ladder. ;)
Mar 06 12:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	guy got totally plastered, hitched it with the zoo inventory.
Mar 06 12:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 when you're hung like a snake gotta do what you gotta do.
Mar 06 12:18:54 <mod6>	hahah
Mar 06 12:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	neck has to be long enough or else you dip your tip in acid.
Mar 06 12:19:01 <Chilca>	Thanks
Mar 06 12:19:15 <mod6>	ah! i'll have to keep that in mind.
Mar 06 12:19:19 <mod6>	lol
Mar 06 12:19:53 <jurov>	yea, without mircea's expert advice, that would've ended badly
Mar 06 12:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	my host guy is like "you know we nullrooted some stuff"
Mar 06 12:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like "yea, whatever"
Mar 06 12:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	he's like "o.o"
Mar 06 12:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 10 @ 0.00062096 = 0.0062 BTC
Mar 06 12:20:45 <mod6>	heh, i nullroute stuff all the time
Mar 06 12:20:55 <mod6>	abuse? to the blackhole you go!
Mar 06 12:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 how often do customers go "mmkay"
Mar 06 12:21:45 <jurov>	like "nono no nullroutes, i have important businss in nigeria"
Mar 06 12:22:17 <Chaang-Noi>	night guy
Mar 06 12:22:20 <Chaang-Noi>	guys*
Mar 06 12:22:23 <iz>	;;ticker
Mar 06 12:22:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35500, Best ask: 47.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14500, Last trade: 47.50000, 24 hour volume: 101716.35730182, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.12712
Mar 06 12:22:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 12:22:48 <gribble>	91.606923 seconds
Mar 06 12:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 06 12:22:54 <gribble>	Time since last block: 12 minutes and 53 seconds
Mar 06 12:22:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00072389 = 14.9845 BTC [+]
Mar 06 12:22:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.21125709 = 211.2571 BTC [+]
Mar 06 12:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;when does bfl deliver
Mar 06 12:22:58 <gribble>	Error: "when" is not a valid command.
Mar 06 12:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	right-o
Mar 06 12:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	btw, wtf is with the longass blocks
Mar 06 12:23:10 <ThickAsThieves>	scam detected
Mar 06 12:23:12 <Chaang-Noi>	mp 4 to 6 weeks
Mar 06 12:23:12 <jurov>	!when does bfl deliver
Mar 06 12:23:24 <jurov>	watch out
Mar 06 12:23:31 <assbot>	 fuck you.
Mar 06 12:23:36 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi i think that's when inaba gets his period
Mar 06 12:23:38 <jurov>	right on the money
Mar 06 12:23:43 <mircea_popescu>	i was asking more about the rigs
Mar 06 12:23:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.65 = 19.5 BTC [-]
Mar 06 12:23:52 <mod6>	hmm
Mar 06 12:24:03 <Chaang-Noi>	<assbot> [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.65 = 19.5 BTC [-]      nice :)
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Mar 06 12:24:34 <Rick_>	When can i use mpex.co?
Mar 06 12:24:43 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/9fBZl3m.png
Mar 06 12:24:55 <smickles>	Rick_: as soon as you can type mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 12:25:51 <smickles>	Rick_: full story and other proxies at http://pastebin.com/xfSBf759
Mar 06 12:26:08 <mod6>	(09:20) < mircea_popescu> mod6 how often do customers go "mmkay" << haha, 0.  the one guy I do a actual website for doesn't give a shit since he cuts down trees for a living lol
Mar 06 12:26:43 <Rick_>	cant open http://pastebin.com/xfSBf759 eaither
Mar 06 12:26:53 <mod6>	im like, "russian hackers are fucking with the site so i tossed their packets in the bitbucket..." "huh? whats that?" ".... don't worry it's all good."
Mar 06 12:26:58 <Rick_>	but i am using coinbr now
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Mar 06 12:27:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 12:29:04 <Rick_>	now i can see http://pastebin.com/xfSBf759,reading it
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Mar 06 12:31:50 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 12:31:52 <gribble>	128.598356 seconds
Mar 06 12:34:05 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 anyway, if you can't get to trilema, it's here http://pastebin.com/vRzjux7e
Mar 06 12:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	all tghe proxy shit was set-up back in jan when somebody tried to ddos mpex
Mar 06 12:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	smickles so what've you been up to ? did you get ddosed or something ?
Mar 06 12:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	Rick_ hey, actually, the full pastebin is http://pastebin.com/vRzjux7e
Mar 06 12:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	for some reason the other one got truncated.
Mar 06 12:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 06 12:38:59 <assbot>	Stupid fucking white man.
Mar 06 12:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha he's proxy unaware huh
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Mar 06 12:40:25 <maximian>	looks like the worst of the s.dice selloff is over
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Mar 06 12:43:39 <deadweasel>	think the price will drop anymore today?
Mar 06 12:43:44 <jurov>	mircea_popescu but it did work till 2 hours ago
Mar 06 12:43:49 <jurov>	assbot
Mar 06 12:44:01 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it gets the pushes
Mar 06 12:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	but it doesn;t know how to get the stats
Mar 06 12:44:19 <jurov>	ic
Mar 06 12:44:25 <assbot>	 yea im stupid like dat.
Mar 06 12:44:36 <jurov>	;;slap assbot
Mar 06 12:44:38 *	gribble slaps assbot with a exasperation entrain
Mar 06 12:45:04 <assbot>	 watch out there. i might be dumb but i have muscle. does that erause you?
Mar 06 12:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	erause ?!
Mar 06 12:45:47 <jurov>	;;facepalm
Mar 06 12:45:47 <gribble>	Error: "facepalm" is not a valid command.
Mar 06 12:46:33 <assbot>	 arouse, mirce, arouse. was ment for jurov.
Mar 06 12:47:46 *	mod6 scratches head
Mar 06 12:48:02 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 12:48:05 <gribble>	152.106485 seconds
Mar 06 12:48:25 <keith_hanson>	christ.
Mar 06 12:48:27 <jurov>	^ it's not over
Mar 06 12:48:45 <keith_hanson>	have they mentioned any reasons for all the lag?
Mar 06 12:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	<unbalanced>	Anyone have theories as to why this runup is so fast then? Is it driven by MPEX futures, or trader manipulation, or is this how the Fed kills BTC: it just buys them all? << historically mpex futures tend to quench rallies (and probably drops too) rather than amplify them
Mar 06 12:49:07 <deadweasel>	shitty sysadmins
Mar 06 12:49:08 <kakobrekla>	beatles yesterdays goes through my mind when you do ;;goxlag
Mar 06 12:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	the reason is that bitcoin which'd normally hit the exchanges pushing the price gets sterilized on derivative trades on mpex
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Mar 06 12:52:21 <jurov>	;;asks 49
Mar 06 12:52:27 <gribble>	There are currently 3655.519 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 177792.647437 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
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Mar 06 13:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00072389 = 3.4747 BTC [+]
Mar 06 13:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 13:01:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.23000, Best ask: 47.40500, Bid-ask spread: 0.17500, Last trade: 47.40500, 24 hour volume: 106149.33438063, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.27059
Mar 06 13:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	so eerie
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Mar 06 13:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	"Karen Webster ‏@karenmpd
Mar 06 13:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	Regulation can stand in the way of innovation in the interest of protecting consumers. What do entrepreneurs do?"
Mar 06 13:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	Mircea Popescu ‏@Mircea_Popescu
Mar 06 13:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	@karenmpd They move. Consumers don't get a say, that's what the definition of consumer implies : "stfu, swallow the menu, say ty".
Mar 06 13:04:40 <mircea_popescu>	i think it was about time twitter got a dose of mp.
Mar 06 13:06:52 <ThickAsThieves>	wtb faster bitcoin confirmations
Mar 06 13:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	primeasic sells 1000 fast confirmations for 0.5 btc
Mar 06 13:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	5000 for 2 btc
Mar 06 13:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	10000 for 3 btc
Mar 06 13:07:34 <ThickAsThieves>	can kako pick them up for me?
Mar 06 13:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	only if you wait till he's not slept for a day first.
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Mar 06 13:11:37 <unbalanced>	mircea_popescu, thanks for the reply above. Could someone rich in cash & BTC, holding BTC futures/options at say a $50 strike could have an incentive to buy up BTC to that level to not lose on the option trade?
Mar 06 13:12:01 <unbalanced>	Or am I a) paranoid? b) ill-informed? c) both? Probably c)
Mar 06 13:12:30 <jurov>	unbalanced, there were tries , but mostly not successful afaik
Mar 06 13:12:47 <Namworld>	oh, I missed mircea's reply. What's up with MPEx?
Mar 06 13:12:55 <ThickAsThieves>	ddos
Mar 06 13:13:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0073 = 0.073 BTC [+]
Mar 06 13:13:46 <unbalanced>	Namworld: see http://mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 13:14:26 <Namworld>	ah, an alternative frontend
Mar 06 13:14:55 <jurov>	not a frontend, just proxy
Mar 06 13:14:56 <[\\\]>	whatever happened to solidcoin?
Mar 06 13:15:10 <Namworld>	Still a scam?
Mar 06 13:15:15 <jurov>	[\\\]: you're digging it out of grave
Mar 06 13:16:23 <[\\\]>	oh, damn
Mar 06 13:16:30 <[\\\]>	I went to the website and the latest news is from January
Mar 06 13:16:33 <[\\\]>	2012
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Mar 06 13:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced in theory this is possible. however this theory tends to blow up in practice. it's no different from any attempt to corner a market, and those have historically ended up poorly.
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Mar 06 13:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	more importantly, the mpoe bot book is limited. you can't get much more than 20k or so notional exposure  per strike
Mar 06 13:26:38 <mircea_popescu>	with a lot of finesse you could construct synthetic positions of maybe 100k, but not 1mn and over.
Mar 06 13:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	moreover because all trade settles in btc on mpex that defacto sterilizes some currency too
Mar 06 13:27:53 <mircea_popescu>	in short : i've put a lot of thinking into creating macrostability here, i obviously may have overlooked holes/been stupid/etc, but it won't be trivial in any case.
Mar 06 13:29:49 <mod6>	(10:04) < mircea_popescu> i think it was about time twitter got a dose of mp. << yes!
Mar 06 13:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 06 13:30:04 <jcpham>	guerilla gardening: http://youtu.be/EzZzZ_qpZ4w
Mar 06 13:30:08 <jcpham>	^ worth watching
Mar 06 13:31:25 <unbalanced>	mircea_popescu, jurov: thx for the replies
Mar 06 13:31:37 <mod6>	jcpham: oh man, <3 Del Taco
Mar 06 13:31:55 <unbalanced>	glad to know all is well in mpex-land... time to get back to work
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Mar 06 13:32:18 <jcpham>	I manufacture my own reality
Mar 06 13:32:23 <jcpham>	i like this guy
Mar 06 13:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;whowas unbalanced
Mar 06 13:32:50 <gribble>	Error: "whowas" is not a valid command.
Mar 06 13:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;was unbalanced
Mar 06 13:32:54 <gribble>	Error: "was" is not a valid command.
Mar 06 13:32:54 <kakobrekla>	someone should tell him about btc
Mar 06 13:32:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00469999 = 1.88 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 13:33:02 <kakobrekla>	you dont need to grow food
Mar 06 13:33:10 <kakobrekla>	aka money
Mar 06 13:33:16 <kakobrekla>	you can just grow money straight up
Mar 06 13:33:24 <mircea_popescu>	so did s.dice get massacred because people thought mpex is gone ?
Mar 06 13:33:25 <deadweasel>	can't eat money
Mar 06 13:33:37 <kakobrekla>	cant encrypt food
Mar 06 13:33:49 <deadweasel>	fungal encryption
Mar 06 13:33:52 <jcpham>	dude this guys mind is primed for bitcoin
Mar 06 13:33:57 <deadweasel>	nobody would try to reverse that
Mar 06 13:33:57 <kakobrekla>	eating cas coins
Mar 06 13:34:17 <deadweasel>	cas coins would be hard to pass
Mar 06 13:34:33 <deadweasel>	and not very nutriional
Mar 06 13:34:40 <jcpham>	7:15 t-shirt says "unkuck the world"
Mar 06 13:34:44 <kakobrekla>	so would be fungal encrypted food
Mar 06 13:34:45 <jcpham>	*unfuck
Mar 06 13:35:11 <deadweasel>	I just need to clean my fridge
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Mar 06 13:35:48 <kakobrekla>	also planting that shit in the middle of the LA
Mar 06 13:35:56 <kakobrekla>	its not useful for eating
Mar 06 13:36:02 <kakobrekla>	so i dunno what that dude is on
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Mar 06 13:36:29 <jcpham>	the man has got him down kakobrekla
Mar 06 13:36:30 <kakobrekla>	meh
Mar 06 13:36:55 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, no that happened yesterday. today dice it didn't move much
Mar 06 13:38:41 <mod6>	this guy is awesome
Mar 06 13:38:51 <kakobrekla>	awsome in a stupid way
Mar 06 13:39:07 <mircea_popescu>	jurov aha.
Mar 06 13:39:33 <mod6>	well, na. fuck the man, plant a garden. mine some bitcoins, etc.
Mar 06 13:40:27 <jcpham>	fuck tha man, plant a garden, mine bitcoins sounds like a tshirt i need
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Mar 06 13:40:37 <dub>	friedcat did it again
Mar 06 13:40:49 <mod6>	jcpham: ya!
Mar 06 13:41:01 <dub>	sent 0.000000001/share then a div
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Mar 06 13:41:29 <dub>	0.1 satoshi
Mar 06 13:41:39 <mod6>	haha ya! "PLANT SOME SHIT!"
Mar 06 13:41:44 <mod6>	thats just great
Mar 06 13:42:02 <mod6>	america needs more people like this guy who are devoted to action
Mar 06 13:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.00469999 = 0.188 BTC [+]
Mar 06 13:42:05 <dub>	im going aquaponics when I finally get a house
Mar 06 13:42:15 <dub>	grow FISH and PLANTS
Mar 06 13:42:54 <mod6>	jcpham: the UNFUCK THE WORLD t-shirt was pretty great too
Mar 06 13:43:02 <mod6>	i'd prolly wear it everyday if I had one
Mar 06 13:43:21 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 06 13:43:22 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4789366.42662 based on data since last change | 4948929.82503 based on data for last three days
Mar 06 13:44:51 <dub>	looks like om not the only one anyway https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149750.msg1591216#msg1591216
Mar 06 13:46:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i have the same issue
Mar 06 13:46:51 <ThickAsThieves>	gave up and moved my wallet
Mar 06 13:47:19 <dub>	wat issue
Mar 06 13:47:50 <ThickAsThieves>	client issues
Mar 06 13:48:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i havent tried rescan yet
Mar 06 13:48:34 <ThickAsThieves>	send coin but transaction never updates
Mar 06 13:48:37 <dub>	is the txn confirmed?
Mar 06 13:49:17 <ThickAsThieves>	basically it does the transactions but displays incorrectly
Mar 06 13:49:22 <dub>	the asicminer div txn isnt
Mar 06 13:49:22 <ThickAsThieves>	if i recall correctly
Mar 06 13:49:30 <ThickAsThieves>	oh
Mar 06 13:49:35 <ThickAsThieves>	thats not confirmed
Mar 06 13:49:36 <dub>	so its normal to show up like that
Mar 06 13:49:46 <ThickAsThieves>	i wasnt referring to asicminer
Mar 06 13:49:59 <ThickAsThieves>	referring to someone suspecting there is an issue with desltop clienbt
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Mar 06 13:54:12 <dub>	holy fuck
Mar 06 13:54:14 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1590649#msg1590649
Mar 06 13:54:16 <dub>	ITS ALIVE
Mar 06 13:56:09 <mod6>	EB is like, "O if you move S.DICE I'll buy some!!! JUST KIDDING! LOL I'VE ALREADY BOUGHT HIGH AND SOLD LOW!"
Mar 06 13:56:35 <dub>	surpise, guy is ubertarded
Mar 06 13:58:31 <mod6>	haha he trolls hard
Mar 06 13:59:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol what ?
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Mar 06 14:00:01 <jcpham>	aww man dank got scammer tagged
Mar 06 14:00:01 <ThickAsThieves>	http://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
Mar 06 14:00:06 <jcpham>	but he had a soul guarantee
Mar 06 14:00:08 <ThickAsThieves>	going up?
Mar 06 14:00:24 <ThickAsThieves>	yes, top floor plz
Mar 06 14:01:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 06 14:01:19 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 224570 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1221 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 31 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4779207.20236 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.41719
Mar 06 14:01:24 <chmod755>	;;ticker
Mar 06 14:01:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.00000, Best ask: 48.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 48.05000, 24 hour volume: 104401.10769022, 24 hour low: 39.50000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.61632
Mar 06 14:02:01 <mod6>	eat your heart out bernakazi
Mar 06 14:03:13 <EskimoBob>	mod6: welcome to my fan club :)
Mar 06 14:03:29 <mod6>	EskimoBob: :)
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Mar 06 14:04:00 <EskimoBob>	it's kinda cute how you fuckwits get worked up if someone makes fun of that gypsy scumbag
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Mar 06 14:05:18 <mod6>	MPOE-PR stepped on your nuts huh?
Mar 06 14:06:02 <EskimoBob>	how did she do that?
Mar 06 14:06:11 <EskimoBob>	she is borderline retarded
Mar 06 14:06:19 <mod6>	i dunno, why all the hard trolls & h8tred?
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Mar 06 14:06:35 <EskimoBob>	and cant really "step on anyone"
Mar 06 14:06:57 <EskimoBob>	hatred? Are you serious?
Mar 06 14:07:01 <EskimoBob>	LOL
Mar 06 14:07:18 *	mod6 slaps EskimoBob with a large trout.
Mar 06 14:07:25 <EskimoBob>	I find that insignificant troll girl funny
Mar 06 14:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-delusion-of-infrastructure/
Mar 06 14:07:32 <EskimoBob>	no, she is pathetic
Mar 06 14:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	the latest installment in mpanthropology.
Mar 06 14:07:51 <mod6>	EskimoBob: *shrug*
Mar 06 14:08:04 <EskimoBob>	who even reads that shit he writes?
Mar 06 14:08:45 <EskimoBob>	mp is like blabbering egomaniac
Mar 06 14:09:41 <ZedsterX>	does bitpay being on amazon make us legit now?
Mar 06 14:09:46 <deadweasel>	I'm pretty sure you are MP, being your own troll
Mar 06 14:10:33 <mod6>	dutifully moved right along to the next helping of predigested yet certifiedly safe circlejerk product. << exactly.
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Mar 06 14:11:24 <EskimoBob>	any gnucash specialists here?
Mar 06 14:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel im who ?
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Mar 06 14:12:08 <EskimoBob>	deadweasel: lol :)
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Mar 06 14:12:42 <EskimoBob>	so my prediction of 0
Mar 06 14:13:07 <EskimoBob>	 my prediction of 0.002 for sdice can actually become a reality?
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Mar 06 14:13:43 <chmod755|catfish>	-0.002!
Mar 06 14:13:58 <EskimoBob>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 06 14:13:59 <gribble>	1 BTC = 47.93000 U.S. dollars = 36.7758766 Euros
Mar 06 14:17:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00072389 = 4.6691 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 14:20:28 <Namworld>	What's up with options?
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Mar 06 14:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	now what sort of unanswerable question is that ?
Mar 06 14:22:48 <Namworld>	ah, nvm. I guess I was consistently refreshing right when options were not up.
Mar 06 14:23:11 <Namworld>	I refreshed twice and no options were showing up from the market bot.
Mar 06 14:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	ya there's ocasionally a momentary gap
Mar 06 14:23:52 *	deadweasel gets 1BTC s.dice divs, loses 5BTC in s.dice share value
Mar 06 14:24:21 <deadweasel>	i think it's broken.  ;)
Mar 06 14:24:45 <Namworld>	your reasoning seems broken... time to get some S.DICE
Mar 06 14:25:05 <deadweasel>	you're right! buy moar!
Mar 06 14:25:55 <ZedsterX>	time not panic yet
Mar 06 14:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel the valuation by last trade algo is prolly dubious
Mar 06 14:27:21 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 06 14:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00300001 / 0.00452788 / 0.0052 (39220 shares, 177.58 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00577697 / 0.0063799 (549867 shares, 3,176.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00588503 / 0.007395 (6670790 shares, 39,257.82 BTC)
Mar 06 14:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	30day avg prolly more reasonable.
Mar 06 14:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 06 14:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08954763 / 47.56142347 / 49.63791534 (no shares, 17,752.74 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 06 14:27:43 <doctor_pullfingr>	deaweasel - measure in USD make you feel a bit better
Mar 06 14:28:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 3 @ 0.0639995 = 0.192 BTC [-]
Mar 06 14:28:50 <deadweasel>	yeah, I need to stop looking at bitfunder. I just want to watch things happen.
Mar 06 14:29:13 <deadweasel>	i like observing this thing.  this, bitcoin, thing.
Mar 06 14:29:39 <deadweasel>	i'm addicted to bitcoins
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Mar 06 14:37:47 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: how often is the oix updated?
Mar 06 14:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	every time options sell pretty much
Mar 06 14:42:40 <mod6>	has any one else been eating popcorn and watching Krugman try to battle the guys on ZH?
Mar 06 14:43:25 <mod6>	not sure if its really him... but it's entertaining either way
Mar 06 14:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Mar 06 14:43:55 <Bugpowder>	EURO is $1.2999?!?
Mar 06 14:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	hard to tell which is the larger idiot, the zh borg or krugman
Mar 06 14:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	about there ya
Mar 06 14:45:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 06 14:45:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35000, Best ask: 47.45780, Bid-ask spread: 0.10780, Last trade: 47.35000, 24 hour volume: 105673.56321148, 24 hour low: 39.51020, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.82315
Mar 06 14:45:56 <dub>	new video of avalon trying to ship units
Mar 06 14:45:58 <dub>	http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/the-strange-beauty-of-the-chinese-politician-who-lost-his-shit-at-the-airport
Mar 06 14:46:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 06 14:48:10 <mod6>	yeah, some of those guys on ZH are somewhat entertaining
Mar 06 14:49:05 <mod6>	there seems to be a real lack of brains when it comes to bitcoin on there though
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Mar 06 14:50:34 <deadweasel>	I have seen no surplus in brains anywhere in bitcoin, except a few here and there.
Mar 06 14:51:15 <deadweasel>	bitcoin has been my financial baptism by fire.  lucky I made money while learning
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Mar 06 15:02:24 <Lyspooner>	this is not the normal channel welcome message
Mar 06 15:03:22 <chmod755>	Lyspooner, wat?
Mar 06 15:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner the scams there got moved to bitcoin-assets.com
Mar 06 15:03:57 <Lyspooner>	"channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? Please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp"
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Mar 06 15:04:28 <mircea_popescu>	a, that's standard freenode stuff
Mar 06 15:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4405 = 4.405 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:05:55 <Lyspooner>	normally it's a list of all the sites that house bitcoin assets
Mar 06 15:06:18 <Bugpowder>	you mean the topic?
Mar 06 15:06:24 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93445.msg1591950#msg1591950 this is cute.
Mar 06 15:08:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:08:46 <Lyspooner>	bugpowder yeah
Mar 06 15:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	"Hi everyone!
Mar 06 15:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	Massage4BTC.com is now operational and lets anyone offer local massage services for BTC."
Mar 06 15:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	le lol.
Mar 06 15:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	"herpderp i learned sort-of webcoding over the summer so now i start a business where other people do the work. it's a platform."
Mar 06 15:10:02 <chmod755>	lmao
Mar 06 15:11:02 <chmod755>	mircea_popescu, wait...isn't that what mpex does?
Mar 06 15:11:17 <chmod755>	S.DICE makes the money - you get rich lol
Mar 06 15:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	haha not quite.
Mar 06 15:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	what've they traded since august, say 200k btc or so ? i've made 400 btc off that.
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Mar 06 15:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4205 = 1.2615 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:14:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:14:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.335 = 3.35 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:14:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.335 = 1.34 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 15:15:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.33317 = 3.3317 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 15:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.42 = 2.1 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:18:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.41 = 2.87 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 15:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.41 = 2.05 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:18:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.65 = 16.25 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 15:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:19:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:21:15 <deadweasel>	I was just wondering where I could find a massage for BTC?
Mar 06 15:21:23 <deadweasel>	is there like, an internet site for that?
Mar 06 15:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	the best massages are free
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Mar 06 15:25:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33317 = 0.6663 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:26:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 640 @ 0.22052312 = 141.1348 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 15:33:10 <jurov>	!tciker m oix^
Mar 06 15:33:16 <jurov>	!ticker m oix^
Mar 06 15:33:18 <assbot>	Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
Mar 06 15:33:23 <deadweasel>	assbot is dead
Mar 06 15:33:27 <jurov>	amen
Mar 06 15:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	prefix not postfix
Mar 06 15:33:29 <jurov>	!ticker m oix^
Mar 06 15:33:30 <assbot>	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
Mar 06 15:33:35 <jurov>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 06 15:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08954763 / 47.63946252 / 49.7064472 (no shares, 17,893.87 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 06 15:33:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:33:56 <jurov>	deadweasel is dead
Mar 06 15:34:15 <jurov>	mpex.co is back online so all should work
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Mar 06 15:36:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:36:07 <deadweasel>	isn't that nanotube's bot?
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Mar 06 15:40:08 <Bugpowder>	tankage
Mar 06 15:40:09 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 06 15:40:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.00000, Best ask: 46.59790, Bid-ask spread: 0.59790, Last trade: 46.00000, 24 hour volume: 109849.30848531, 24 hour low: 39.79000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.00791
Mar 06 15:41:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:42:29 <jurov>	deadweasel,no,gribble is nanotube's. assbot has borrowed intelligence from kakobrekla.
Mar 06 15:42:42 <jurov>	maybe muscles,too, dunno
Mar 06 15:44:06 <deadweasel>	jurov: ok, thx.  they are both nice bots.  even S&M assbot, but I do that in PMs now.
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Mar 06 15:44:46 <jurov>	consider yourself lucky, i was rejected by assbot :/
Mar 06 15:44:50 <deadweasel>	tankage indeed, people must be market selling
Mar 06 15:45:29 <deadweasel>	but there are some hungry sponges out there too
Mar 06 15:45:52 <jurov>	i think today's bank wires and whatever went into bitcoins, tomorrow it may repeat
Mar 06 15:46:11 <jurov>	when fresh fiat arrives
Mar 06 15:46:20 <jurov>	bitcoin will eat it
Mar 06 15:47:10 <Bugpowder>	 see u at $36.
Mar 06 15:48:15 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 15:48:17 <gribble>	80.139706 seconds
Mar 06 15:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 15:48:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.27057, Best ask: 45.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.71943, Last trade: 45.99000, 24 hour volume: 111972.55000310, 24 hour low: 39.79001, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.02130
Mar 06 15:48:49 <dub>	BASIC-MINING what
Mar 06 15:49:07 <Lyspooner>	80 seconds lag? is that normal?
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Mar 06 15:50:40 <Bugpowder>	it wat 680sec a few hours ago
Mar 06 15:50:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.65 = 32.5 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:50:56 <dub>	yeah newsflash gox sux
Mar 06 15:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0046 = 1.38 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	they're good at what they do
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Mar 06 15:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:56:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:56:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.4 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:56:20 <leotreasure>	asicmining divs are out
Mar 06 15:56:32 <Ukto>	yup
Mar 06 15:56:39 <Ukto>	as soon as confirms are done, DT will be paying on BF
Mar 06 15:56:52 <DeaDTerra1>	stil sitting on 0 confirms...
Mar 06 15:56:55 <DeaDTerra1>	comeone mining pools
Mar 06 15:57:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 62 @ 0.00549 = 0.3404 BTC [+]
Mar 06 15:57:36 <Ukto>	btw, G.ASICMER-PT now holders 1,020,273 confirmed ASICMINER shares
Mar 06 15:57:48 <Ukto>	er
Mar 06 15:57:53 <Ukto>	that wrong
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Mar 06 15:58:07 <Ukto>	11,032 shares
Mar 06 15:58:10 <Ukto>	stupid copy buffer
Mar 06 15:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	leotreasure how much ?
Mar 06 15:59:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
Mar 06 15:59:13 <leotreasure>	.01916298
Mar 06 15:59:38 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 06 15:59:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.71051, Best ask: 45.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28949, Last trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 114058.31082349, 24 hour low: 39.85750, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.04732
Mar 06 15:59:44 <Ukto>	the last was 0.02354460
Mar 06 15:59:49 <Ukto>	and it was for all earnings up to that point
Mar 06 15:59:55 <Ukto>	that means the last week picked up a lot of earnings
Mar 06 16:00:17 <Ukto>	next week should easily surpass it
Mar 06 16:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	going down !?
Mar 06 16:00:40 <Ukto>	btc or AM?
Mar 06 16:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	ah, what interval was the first for ?
Mar 06 16:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	am
Mar 06 16:00:53 <Ukto>	like 2~3 weeks?
Mar 06 16:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	ah i c
Mar 06 16:01:14 <DeaDTerra1>	HAHAH one million shares was a bit strong xD
Mar 06 16:01:19 <Ukto>	yeah
Mar 06 16:01:21 <Ukto>	I has sdice open
Mar 06 16:01:27 <Ukto>	and copied the wrong thing :P
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Mar 06 16:05:46 <jcpham>	hey gais
Mar 06 16:06:01 <Ukto>	sup
Mar 06 16:06:05 <jcpham>	i sold some coins for $50 today
Mar 06 16:06:09 <jcpham>	;;ticker
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Mar 06 16:06:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.20000, Best ask: 44.71051, Bid-ask spread: 0.51051, Last trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 114660.97979107, 24 hour low: 39.85750, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.05104
Mar 06 16:06:41 <jcpham>	how is that even acceptable or possible
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Mar 06 16:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	bad deal.
Mar 06 16:06:59 <mircea_popescu>	you'll regret it later.
Mar 06 16:07:03 <Bugpowder>	I sold a nice chunk at 46-49
Mar 06 16:07:13 <Bugpowder>	I do not regret it now
Mar 06 16:07:13 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu: 5 coins...
Mar 06 16:07:19 <jcpham>	!
Mar 06 16:07:36 <swhitt>	i ;;ticker
Mar 06 16:07:41 <swhitt>	;;ticker
Mar 06 16:07:49 <jcpham>	i sold 5 coins during the height of the day for shits and giggles
Mar 06 16:07:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.20000, Best ask: 44.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 44.50000, 24 hour volume: 114844.81528356, 24 hour low: 39.85750, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.05435
Mar 06 16:07:55 <swhitt>	i wish mtgoxlive would work better.
Mar 06 16:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1592056#msg1592056
Mar 06 16:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol girl laying the smackdown
Mar 06 16:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	i can't believe forum idiots actually propose btctalk as a comparison for anything.
Mar 06 16:08:36 <Lyspooner>	"girl"
Mar 06 16:08:55 <Lyspooner>	try "me"
Mar 06 16:08:57 <Bugpowder>	anyone know EXACTLY how wash sale rules effect a long-term cap gain?  As in, if I buy a stock for $5, sell it 8  months later for $10, rebuy for $9 the next day then sell again for $50 8 months after that.
Mar 06 16:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner why does her gender bother you so ?
Mar 06 16:09:08 <jcpham>	http://www.economicsofbitcoin.com/2013/03/re-bitcoin-bubble-20-by-patrik-korda.html
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Mar 06 16:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	who is patrik-korda
Mar 06 16:10:14 <Bugpowder>	Is the $50 sale considered long-term or short term
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Mar 06 16:10:36 <Bugpowder>	I know the $10 sale is short term, despite the wash sale repurchase.
Mar 06 16:10:39 <jcpham>	http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/7761841-patrik-korda/1616371-bitcoin-bubble-2-0
Mar 06 16:10:41 <jcpham>	^ korda
Mar 06 16:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham ok, some idiot who came up with the brilliant idea that because the cost of making websites is small, the internet will never exist
Mar 06 16:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	because myspace profiles will compete each other into irrelevance
Mar 06 16:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	i am impressed. who spawns all these idiots ?
Mar 06 16:11:45 <Bugpowder>	http://apoplithorismosphobia.com/files/ex.pdf
Mar 06 16:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 06 16:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	spontaneous idiogeneration ?
Mar 06 16:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	Study Program: Liberal Arts
Mar 06 16:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	Field of Study: 3. 1. 6 Political Science
Mar 06 16:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	ok nm.
Mar 06 16:13:35 <jurov>	According to the Communist Manifesto, there were three major reasons why capitalism would come to a halt.
Mar 06 16:13:42 <jurov>	^from abstract
Mar 06 16:14:14 <mircea_popescu>	one of them being that youthful cocks with milkstrings still atached will end up publishing on wanna-be "respectable" venues a la seeking alpha as if they were people.
Mar 06 16:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	basically, we're being trolled.
Mar 06 16:15:02 <jurov>	lol i never heard about this school.. prolly too many "higher education" schools around
Mar 06 16:15:18 <jurov>	in one 450-thousand city
Mar 06 16:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	every halfwit with a "liberal arts" degree in nothing specifically from Nowhere University is going to, on the mid term, publish a finite nonzero number of papers
Mar 06 16:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	consisting of nothing at all.
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Mar 06 16:16:29 <jurov>	From a historical standpoint, major economic bubbles are a rare phenomenon. Unlike business cycles, which occur quite frequently and with great regularity, there have not been many bubbles throughout history.
Mar 06 16:16:40 <jurov>	first two sentences from the body text
Mar 06 16:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	i can't even write about this shit, it'd be doing it favours ;/
Mar 06 16:16:46 <jurov>	i cant even...
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Mar 06 16:19:12 <Lyspooner>	scott sumner on bitcoin bubbles http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=19705&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Themoneyillusion+%28TheMoneyIllusion%29
Mar 06 16:21:11 <BitHub>	so...how much did asicminer share pay per share?
Mar 06 16:21:57 <BitHub>	0.020 or something?
Mar 06 16:22:03 <dub>	.01916298
Mar 06 16:22:09 <BitHub>	cool
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Mar 06 16:22:37 <dub>	they sent it anyway, hadn't confirmed last I looked
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Mar 06 16:22:55 <Diablo-D3>	it confirmed
Mar 06 16:23:00 <Diablo-D3>	the share count tx didn't yet
Mar 06 16:23:28 <Diablo-D3>	oh wait, sorry, its only 4/6 atm
Mar 06 16:23:32 <Diablo-D3>	its partially confirmed =P
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Mar 06 16:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner left him an oix.
Mar 06 16:26:28 <Lyspooner>	?
Mar 06 16:27:22 <mircea_popescu>	link you posted.
Mar 06 16:28:51 <Lyspooner>	to what end?  he doesn't care about bitcoin so much as he just wants people who cry "bubble!" to be held to certain standards
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Mar 06 16:38:56 <AndroUser512>	;;estimate
Mar 06 16:38:58 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4749889.19275 based on data since last change | 4913870.80684 based on data for last three days
Mar 06 16:42:08 <jurov>	i daresay marketmaking for difficulty is less risky than one for price
Mar 06 16:42:39 <jurov>	but the asics are still big unknowns
Mar 06 16:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner so i made a spurious comment on the interwebs.
Mar 06 16:42:50 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it's gotten to that point hasn't it. funny how things topple in btc.
Mar 06 16:47:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: were you ddosed again?
Mar 06 16:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Mar 06 16:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	didn't do much if anything at all this time.
Mar 06 16:48:28 <thestringpuller>	people must just not like you
Mar 06 16:48:51 <thestringpuller>	but girls love em
Mar 06 16:48:57 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu the jay z of btc
Mar 06 16:49:08 <thestringpuller>	can I produce your rap album?
Mar 06 16:49:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol sure
Mar 06 16:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, prolly kids getting their teeth cut.
Mar 06 16:49:36 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 06 16:49:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08954763 / 47.63946252 / 49.7064472 (no shares, 17,893.87 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 06 16:49:44 <thestringpuller>	nice
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Mar 06 16:49:51 <thestringpuller>	OIX is a good metric
Mar 06 16:50:03 <mircea_popescu>	im totally in love with it
Mar 06 16:50:07 <jcpham>	Your money is stored securely in the cloud (with 90% offline in secure storage), so if you lose your phone your money is still safe.
Mar 06 16:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	after it said 47+ about a day early.
Mar 06 16:50:13 <jcpham>	http://blog.coinbase.com/post/44730207780/the-coinbase-android-app-has-launched
Mar 06 16:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham remember the polish exchange that mtgox acquired in 2011 ?
Mar 06 16:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	that btc is to this day securely in the cloud.
Mar 06 16:50:48 <thestringpuller>	does that mean option marketers are manipulating the price?
Mar 06 16:50:51 <jcpham>	bitomat.pl i think
Mar 06 16:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham exactly, that's them.
Mar 06 16:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller possibly that they draw from the same reservoir of future as the price does.
Mar 06 16:51:20 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 10000
Mar 06 16:51:26 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 428772.0536 USD and would take the last price down to 40.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 42.8772 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 06 16:51:30 <AndroUser512>	Is it mer SAY uh  po PESS coo?
Mar 06 16:51:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: thats some oracle wisdom there
Mar 06 16:51:55 <thestringpuller>	hahaha
Mar 06 16:52:18 <thestringpuller>	AndroUser512 wow that made me lol in this huge meeting
Mar 06 16:52:26 <AndroUser512>	:)
Mar 06 16:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	mirˈt͡ʃe̯a poˈpes.ku
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Mar 06 16:53:08 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu are you at odds with bitinstant now?
Mar 06 16:53:12 <BitHub>	heh mircea rap album
Mar 06 16:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Mar 06 16:53:20 <thestringpuller>	also how the fuck did they get social engineered?
Mar 06 16:53:59 <thestringpuller>	ziggap is gonna surpass bitinstant at this rate
Mar 06 16:54:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 634 @ 0.00073 = 0.4628 BTC [+]
Mar 06 16:54:23 <AndroUser512>	Ziggap wad down earlier, still?
Mar 06 16:54:27 <thestringpuller>	Ukto: stop being lazy and have assbot announce BF
Mar 06 16:54:35 <AndroUser512>	For realz
Mar 06 16:55:00 <thestringpuller>	whoa is ziggap getting ddosed too?
Mar 06 16:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller it is kinda funny, shrem gets owned, site is offline for three days, customers miss rally, popescu is ddosed nothing happens.
Mar 06 16:55:17 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine it must be bruising egos but other than that... heh. who cares.
Mar 06 16:55:27 <thestringpuller>	well i was mad popescu!
Mar 06 16:55:35 <thestringpuller>	i couldnt get my oix from assbot
Mar 06 16:55:42 <thestringpuller>	unacceptable!!!!
Mar 06 16:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	hehe ok
Mar 06 16:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.torahinmotion.org/sites/default/files/50_asian_experiences_sheep.jpg
Mar 06 16:56:07 <thestringpuller>	mpex by design is built like a vault
Mar 06 16:56:09 <mircea_popescu>	here, have a bunch of oix's for later
Mar 06 16:56:19 <AndroUser512>	Shoulda found a way to call it OINX
Mar 06 16:56:28 <thestringpuller>	someone would to assassinate popescu
Mar 06 16:56:31 <thestringpuller>	have to*
Mar 06 16:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	MPOIX was in the list.
Mar 06 16:56:44 <dub>	I was expecting a much different picture
Mar 06 16:56:49 <thestringpuller>	in order to social engineer mpex
Mar 06 16:56:51 <BitHub>	peeps are working on it
Mar 06 16:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	im assassinating myself
Mar 06 16:57:25 <mircea_popescu>	death by chocolate.
Mar 06 16:57:37 <BitHub>	chocolate and pu$$y
Mar 06 16:57:39 <thestringpuller>	not by cuban cigars?
Mar 06 16:57:49 <deadweasel>	cuban pussy is cheaper
Mar 06 16:57:55 <AndroUser512>	Yep ziggap still down
Mar 06 16:58:01 <jurov>	everyone calm down and enjoy nice family photo: http://imgur.com/a4HcmCq
Mar 06 16:58:01 <BitHub>	mark cuban's mangina?
Mar 06 16:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	iz siggap aethero's thing ?
Mar 06 16:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	that ipo'd recently ?
Mar 06 16:58:39 <BitHub>	yeah
Mar 06 16:58:40 <AndroUser512>	Yes
Mar 06 16:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaah that's a slovak duck
Mar 06 16:58:57 <BitHub>	just a buy and sell service
Mar 06 16:59:09 <BitHub>	well not even sell, just buy
Mar 06 16:59:09 <jurov>	no it's romanian. we don't use children.
Mar 06 16:59:12 <AndroUser512>	He says it means wallet in vietnamese or sumth
Mar 06 16:59:24 <BitHub>	north korean or something
Mar 06 16:59:31 <mircea_popescu>	jurov only because couldn't figure out how to make any :D
Mar 06 16:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	so why is it down ?
Mar 06 16:59:56 <BitHub>	teh hax0rs?
Mar 06 17:00:04 <mircea_popescu>	sucks.
Mar 06 17:00:06 <AndroUser512>	Haven't  seen aethero today to ask
Mar 06 17:00:16 <jurov>	i see nothing untoward on frontpage
Mar 06 17:00:27 <BitHub>	alot of people were asking were you were about 8 hours ago mircea
Mar 06 17:00:34 <BitHub>	told them you got kidnapped by the CIA again
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Mar 06 17:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	cia party & barhopping special unit
Mar 06 17:02:14 <jurov>	poor smickles,just came after 3wks and immediately had to calm the situation
Mar 06 17:02:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.00549 = 2.745 BTC [+]
Mar 06 17:03:02 <mircea_popescu>	it was funny, cause when he went the other ddos was recent
Mar 06 17:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like a bridge in tiem for him
Mar 06 17:05:09 <kakobrekla>	oh god.
Mar 06 17:05:14 <kakobrekla>	glbse drama still aint over
Mar 06 17:05:39 <Namworld>	where?
Mar 06 17:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	necessarily on the forum
Mar 06 17:06:03 <kakobrekla>	naaa
Mar 06 17:07:14 <kakobrekla>	http://pastebin.com/XU3Wf9gu
Mar 06 17:08:24 <BitHub>	glbse drama fo life
Mar 06 17:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol so our friendly ddosers actually wiped the upstream provider.
Mar 06 17:10:08 <mircea_popescu>	NOW mpex is offline.
Mar 06 17:10:22 <jurov>	indeed
Mar 06 17:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	i guess never scorn a script kiddie.
Mar 06 17:11:17 <Lyspooner>	hell hath no fury like a script kiddie scorned
Mar 06 17:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. should be resolved momentarily.
Mar 06 17:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	the worst case scenario is we move over to tor.
Mar 06 17:12:26 <mircea_popescu>	that'd likely be a coupla days of downtime.
Mar 06 17:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	in between these extremes a number of intermediate solutions.
Mar 06 17:13:01 <Lyspooner>	Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a script kiddie scorned
Mar 06 17:13:15 <kakobrekla>	so the proxy idea doesnt work after all
Mar 06 17:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla well anything on the internet is limited by the internet actually existing.
Mar 06 17:14:04 <BitHub>	it is?
Mar 06 17:14:07 <BitHub>	dear god
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Mar 06 17:14:39 <jurov>	mircea_popescu can't the engine just get moved to completely different dc?
Mar 06 17:14:46 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yes, it could.
Mar 06 17:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	but i dislike this sort of solutions, just hop around dcs ?
Mar 06 17:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	what if i need to take a piss one day ?
Mar 06 17:15:16 <jurov>	and only proxies would know where.. as long as it stays secret, no hoppin necessary
Mar 06 17:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	this is a small scale garden variety tor implementation.
Mar 06 17:15:53 <kakobrekla>	tor sux
Mar 06 17:15:56 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Mar 06 17:15:58 <Lyspooner>	Uncertainty and expectation are the joys of life. Security is an insipid thing.
Mar 06 17:16:15 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner shush you, you're not the one with the suspended exchange.
Mar 06 17:16:32 <Lyspooner>	that's not me, that's william congreve
Mar 06 17:16:46 <kakobrekla>	tor is not friendly
Mar 06 17:16:54 <mod6>	for whom?
Mar 06 17:16:58 <kakobrekla>	to ME
Mar 06 17:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla mpex would be on tor, proxies would be on normal web.
Mar 06 17:17:22 <mircea_popescu>	problem is it's slow
Mar 06 17:17:36 <kakobrekla>	what the point then
Mar 06 17:17:52 <kakobrekla>	if proxies hide location
Mar 06 17:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	well look, ddos mitigation is an exercise in moving upstream.
Mar 06 17:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	what i had here was enough to make 10-100 Gb attacks ineffectual.
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Mar 06 17:18:35 <mircea_popescu>	someone taking down all tor nodes is a coupla degrees of magnitude over that.
Mar 06 17:19:21 <kakobrekla>	ya but they still know your current location
Mar 06 17:19:32 <kakobrekla>	and you need to change that
Mar 06 17:19:44 <kakobrekla>	if they are fuckin your isp
Mar 06 17:19:49 <kakobrekla>	or what
Mar 06 17:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	half of gnax atlanta is dark atm.
Mar 06 17:20:13 <kakobrekla>	and if you change it to unknown its same shit if you keep it hidden via tor or via decent http proxies
Mar 06 17:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla not really, you can actually trace to source with http proxies.
Mar 06 17:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	may take a week or two, sure.
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Mar 06 17:21:40 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Mar 06 17:21:51 <kakobrekla>	if they cant take tpb down with a solution like that
Mar 06 17:21:57 <kakobrekla>	they cant take you down
Mar 06 17:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Mar 06 17:23:00 <jcpham>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19s3jh/dear_coinbase_please_order_some_more_coins_asap/
Mar 06 17:23:13 <jcpham>	"If Coinbase borrowed inventory off btcjam (as btcquick does) they'd probably fund pretty quickly and have a better cost basis"
Mar 06 17:23:20 <jcpham>	the internet is full of idiots today
Mar 06 17:23:23 <jcpham>	i give up
Mar 06 17:23:29 <chmod755>	lol
Mar 06 17:23:48 <jcpham>	so the btcjam coins are being sold, eh
Mar 06 17:23:49 <BitHub>	good idea
Mar 06 17:24:01 <jcpham>	this idea is familiar
Mar 06 17:24:20 <BitHub>	mpex should lend out 100btc on btcjam and never see any of teh btc again
Mar 06 17:24:20 <jurov>	do we know where the bticointalk coins ended up?
Mar 06 17:24:33 <jurov>	btw
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Mar 06 17:24:38 <jcpham>	selling borrowed coins was tried a few times at least once already
Mar 06 17:24:47 <jcpham>	none of the borrowed coins were returned afaik
Mar 06 17:24:56 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 06 17:25:06 <BitHub>	btcjam should be ddosed
Mar 06 17:25:13 <BitHub>	piece of shit site/service
Mar 06 17:25:17 <kakobrekla>	point mpex dns to them
Mar 06 17:25:22 <jcpham>	apparently they are more liquid that coinbase
Mar 06 17:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	lmao ahaghaha
Mar 06 17:25:25 <jcpham>	which boggles me
Mar 06 17:25:49 <BitHub>	demented animals that invent this crap
Mar 06 17:25:53 <jcpham>	so apparently reddit can't find btc
Mar 06 17:25:59 <jcpham>	and gox orders are stacking up
Mar 06 17:26:19 <jcpham>	all the bitcoins are gone!
Mar 06 17:26:26 <mod6>	kakobrekla: that's a one out of the rg playbook :)
Mar 06 17:26:27 <pigeons>	coinlab will roll out its instawallet clone
Mar 06 17:26:39 <BitHub>	powered by SEC
Mar 06 17:26:50 <jcpham>	maybe coinlab should roll out a lending service
Mar 06 17:26:51 <pigeons>	Tom Williams
Mar 06 17:26:56 <jcpham>	those work great for liquidity
Mar 06 17:27:19 <jcpham>	ooh ooh iknow
Mar 06 17:27:22 <pigeons>	coinlab is gonna bring bitcoin to wallstreet man
Mar 06 17:27:26 <jcpham>	they could pay interest on deposits
Mar 06 17:27:26 <BitHub>	stop giving coinlab ideas
Mar 06 17:27:29 <BitHub>	jesus
Mar 06 17:27:47 <BitHub>	next you'll be telling them how to offer insurance
Mar 06 17:27:48 <BitHub>	fuck ya
Mar 06 17:27:54 <jcpham>	they could pay interest on deposits and then use those deposited coins to sell
Mar 06 17:27:58 <pigeons>	ooh and they should offer coin storage
Mar 06 17:28:09 <BitHub>	NO PIGEON
Mar 06 17:28:21 <jcpham>	ooh maybe even a mixer
Mar 06 17:28:23 <pigeons>	and a gpu farm integrated into independent video games
Mar 06 17:28:24 <jcpham>	for MAX ANON
Mar 06 17:28:26 <BitHub>	they're already cutting into BitHub's market share
Mar 06 17:28:30 <jcpham>	ooh yeah that too
Mar 06 17:28:52 <pigeons>	all ur gamerz r teh goldz
Mar 06 17:29:00 <jcpham>	just wait until one of these guys starts offering interest on deposits
Mar 06 17:29:10 <pigeons>	7% a week
Mar 06 17:29:10 <kakobrekla>	like 7% a week.
Mar 06 17:29:14 <pigeons>	;)
Mar 06 17:29:14 <kakobrekla>	first.
Mar 06 17:29:16 <BitHub>	you mean like divs?
Mar 06 17:29:18 <jcpham>	yeah exactly like 7% a week
Mar 06 17:29:23 <BitHub>	what a mind blowing concept
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Mar 06 17:29:59 <jcpham>	it will be a revolutionary concept to the internet at large
Mar 06 17:30:09 <pigeons>	i thought 7% a week must be a scam, BUT YCOMBINATOR!
Mar 06 17:30:14 <jurov>	heh, mtgoxlive loaded for me first time today
Mar 06 17:30:17 <jcpham>	exactly
Mar 06 17:30:24 <jcpham>	buy ycombinator
Mar 06 17:30:40 <jcpham>	*but
Mar 06 17:30:42 <jcpham>	not buy
Mar 06 17:31:05 <pigeons>	why ask why?
Mar 06 17:31:24 <jurov>	deflationary currency. with 7% weekly interest. austrian economists, take that.
Mar 06 17:31:35 <jurov>	better than perpetuum mobile
Mar 06 17:31:45 <pigeons>	well we are still at 25 btc/block inflation
Mar 06 17:31:56 <jcpham>	<doctor_pullfingr> -I don't know where coinbase buys.  All I'm saying is that they're out and have been for a couple of days.  When they no longer say they're out.  I think the price of BTC stabilizes.  Maybe it's a leading indicator.
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Mar 06 17:32:09 <jcpham>	newbs in -otc talking about coinbase out of money
Mar 06 17:32:28 <pigeons>	how can they be out of money? YCOMBINATOR
Mar 06 17:32:38 <jcpham>	because bitcoin.
Mar 06 17:32:55 <jurov>	anyone named the source?
Mar 06 17:33:07 <Pucilowski>	what happened to mpex.co?
Mar 06 17:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	try mpex.co nao
Mar 06 17:33:08 <jcpham>	nope
Mar 06 17:33:25 <pigeons>	OMG surely there are no alternative sites using twitter bootstrap that will buy bitcoins for us off an exchange for an extra fee
Mar 06 17:33:35 <doctor_pullfingr>	I'm the source.  not really a newb - in since 6.43
Mar 06 17:33:45 <jcpham>	my bad
Mar 06 17:34:01 <doctor_pullfingr>	just changed my name lots of times
Mar 06 17:34:03 <jcpham>	i'm totally a noob though
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Mar 06 17:34:09 <jurov>	btw, didn't anyone try to compare coinlab sales with pirate's loot? whether the amount isn't approximately similar, perchance
Mar 06 17:34:14 <pigeons>	why'd you wait till june, japan had gained a lot by then
Mar 06 17:34:25 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 06 17:34:30 <Bugpowder>	very patriotic
Mar 06 17:34:54 <iz>	jurov: how much did pirate actually make off with?  i think it's unknown, b/c everyone won't fess up about how much they got paid back in interest
Mar 06 17:35:01 <pigeons>	it is unknown
Mar 06 17:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	hey, people wanna show off their muscle, let them show it off to people who care.
Mar 06 17:35:14 <pigeons>	i doubt he had much left
Mar 06 17:35:18 <iz>	pigeons: same
Mar 06 17:35:35 <Bugpowder>	is that going to redirect the ddos to wh?
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Mar 06 17:35:39 <Bugpowder>	no right?
Mar 06 17:35:50 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine yes.
Mar 06 17:35:59 <jurov>	mpex.co -> http://www.whitehouse.gov LMAO
Mar 06 17:36:20 <mircea_popescu>	i figure i got a 1% shot of making us national news.
Mar 06 17:36:24 <Bugpowder>	heh
Mar 06 17:36:34 <Bugpowder>	its a very clever idea
Mar 06 17:36:40 <mod6>	lol, that actually worked.
Mar 06 17:37:01 <mod6>	WE GET SIGNAL
Mar 06 17:37:03 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 what ?!
Mar 06 17:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	don't tell me it's down
Mar 06 17:37:18 <mod6>	redirect from mpex.co to whitehouse.gov
Mar 06 17:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Mar 06 17:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 06 17:37:23 <mod6>	i luld
Mar 06 17:37:35 <mod6>	and needed to subsequently quote zero-wing
Mar 06 17:37:57 <jcpham>	that's terrible mircea_popescu
Mar 06 17:38:13 <jurov>	everyone, now try to submit post requests to whitehouse
Mar 06 17:38:25 <jurov>	with gpg encrypted mpex stuff
Mar 06 17:39:06 <Bugpowder>	not working
Mar 06 17:39:08 <doctor_pullfingr>	mircea_popescu - I got STAT earlier today if you care.
Mar 06 17:39:12 <Bugpowder>	mpex.co down
Mar 06 17:39:12 <pigeons>	romainian bitterrorist pornagrapher points site at whitehouse to direct shadowy hackers to take down usa's "critical infrastructure"
Mar 06 17:39:17 <Bugpowder>	whitehouse.gov not down
Mar 06 17:39:31 <dub>	inb4 black helicopters
Mar 06 17:39:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol it has no hole
Mar 06 17:39:46 <mod6>	inb4 drone strike
Mar 06 17:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol i just got an actual proper page
Mar 06 17:39:58 <Bugpowder>	its back!
Mar 06 17:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	30day Total Volume 133`707.57454204 BTC
Mar 06 17:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	this look stale to anyone ?
Mar 06 17:40:25 <BitHub>	l33t
Mar 06 17:40:57 <mircea_popescu>	im guffawing over here
Mar 06 17:41:19 <jurov>	pointing pympex to whitehouse.gov got HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Mar 06 17:41:29 <jurov>	completely appropriate
Mar 06 17:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	interesting
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Mar 06 17:42:17 <dub>	250k btc I think was the popular rumour
Mar 06 17:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	went as high as 500k
Mar 06 17:43:16 <jurov>	http://mpex.coinbr.com/ back online
Mar 06 17:43:18 <BitHub>	So Henry Paulson is the new C.E.O of coinlab?
Mar 06 17:43:32 <mod6>	jurov: nice
Mar 06 17:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	well that worked.
Mar 06 17:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	leson learned : when someone throws a quarter tb of crap at you
Mar 06 17:44:14 <jcpham>	His name was Robert Paulsen
Mar 06 17:44:23 <mircea_popescu>	point to something  white and get out of the way
Mar 06 17:44:33 <doctor_pullfingr>	confirmed mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 17:44:44 *	BitHub chants "his name was robert paulsen"
Mar 06 17:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	he's thinking of robert's sister, henry.
Mar 06 17:45:24 <BitHub>	ya
Mar 06 17:46:25 <Bugpowder>	This bothers me " Whether you are a savvy investor, Bitcoin merchant, or crypto-hobbiest, trading Bitcoin in the US and Canada is about to get faster, easier, and even more secure."
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Mar 06 17:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 06 17:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	"also, no coins"
Mar 06 17:46:46 <Bugpowder>	You have a misspelling in the first sentence of your splash page
Mar 06 17:46:54 <mod6>	haha
Mar 06 17:47:21 <mod6>	i shouldnt laugh at that, i misspell tons of words :/
Mar 06 17:47:24 <Bugpowder>	Current Price 541m ago  Mt. Gox sockets are down. Trade data will not update until they come back online, and depth data will only update once every 15 minutes. Sorry!
Mar 06 17:47:28 <doctor_pullfingr>	from mpex.co front page "The time has come to fill important judicial vacancies"
Mar 06 17:47:33 <Bugpowder>	weird that all the other websites still work
Mar 06 17:47:40 <BitHub>	"Thanks to our partnerships with SEC, Taxoffice and the Whitehouse, we can now provide these services"
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Mar 06 17:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	wait
Mar 06 17:47:59 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox got flumoxxed too ?
Mar 06 17:48:14 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu is jealous
Mar 06 17:48:20 <dub>	;;goxlag
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Mar 06 17:48:30 <mircea_popescu>	lmao ok ok
Mar 06 17:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 17:48:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.90000, Best ask: 46.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 45.90000, 24 hour volume: 119925.05033138, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.19828
Mar 06 17:48:33 <Bugpowder>	coinlab got flummoxed
Mar 06 17:48:41 <jcpham>	Ashton Kutcher’s A-Grade Investments joined with Ben Davenport and Trace Mayer in another round of seed founding for BitPay.
Mar 06 17:48:57 <BitHub>	thank christ for ashton kutcher
Mar 06 17:48:59 <dub>	ok, so with bitcoin roken, where is the bottom
Mar 06 17:49:04 <dub>	broken*
Mar 06 17:49:04 <mod6>	lol BitHub
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Mar 06 17:49:29 <BitHub>	Charlie Sheen bitcoin company will be better
Mar 06 17:49:52 <iz>	BitHub: you'll take that back once you find out he's just punking the btc community for a new MTV series
Mar 06 17:50:09 <BitHub>	ahh so that's who's been trolling the price lately
Mar 06 17:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	mtv still exists ?!
Mar 06 17:50:10 <jcpham>	^ iz may have a point
Mar 06 17:50:27 <jcpham>	if ashton gets to play satoshi ina bitcoin movie i'll be upset
Mar 06 17:50:37 <BitHub>	lulz jcpham
Mar 06 17:50:42 <BitHub>	holy shit
Mar 06 17:51:17 <mod6>	Dude, where's my bitcoins?
Mar 06 17:51:43 <dub>	its gotta be ryan gosling
Mar 06 17:51:44 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu has a doctor evil suit
Mar 06 17:51:58 <kakobrekla>	tru dat.
Mar 06 17:52:01 <pigeons>	piefucker played a good satoshi
Mar 06 17:52:03 <mod6>	dub: then all girls will want to go and see it
Mar 06 17:52:23 <BitHub>	would you guys ever fund a movie with bitcoins?
Mar 06 17:52:41 <dub>	sounds like an IPO
Mar 06 17:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 120 @ 0.22222082 = 26.6665 BTC [+]
Mar 06 17:52:55 <pigeons>	Richard Simmons as usagi
Mar 06 17:53:02 <mod6>	LOL
Mar 06 17:53:04 <BitHub>	i think you should fund my movie
Mar 06 17:53:04 <doctor_pullfingr>	BitHub - girlsgonebitcoin does that all the time
Mar 06 17:53:05 <dub>	haha
Mar 06 17:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub i acrtually had some outfit in chicago to do me a short
Mar 06 17:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	sadly they flaked out.
Mar 06 17:53:39 <jcpham>	i asked Ashton who is going to play Satoshi
Mar 06 17:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	was last year.
Mar 06 17:53:48 <jcpham>	we'll see if he responds
Mar 06 17:53:50 <BitHub>	a short for what mircea?
Mar 06 17:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	a short film.
Mar 06 17:54:08 <jcpham>	https://plus.google.com/115257212064017961354/posts/Pmd1sPVby5A
Mar 06 17:54:08 <BitHub>	yes
Mar 06 17:54:14 <BitHub>	with you acting in it?
Mar 06 17:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Mar 06 17:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	you know the "are you the brain specialist" monthy python sketch ?
Mar 06 17:54:38 <mod6>	nice jcpham
Mar 06 17:54:41 <BitHub>	probably
Mar 06 17:54:49 <mircea_popescu>	so it was going to be a remake of that, except with the
Mar 06 17:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	Are you the Bitcoin Financialist
Mar 06 17:55:14 <BitHub>	i was suppose to make a short film this year to take to Robert Rodriguez and troublemaker studios for their new television network EL REY
Mar 06 17:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	would have been hysterical
Mar 06 17:55:17 <kakobrekla>	hey mircea you gonna have to switch the slogan nao https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1592841#msg1592841
Mar 06 17:55:17 <BitHub>	but doing this crap instead
Mar 06 17:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	was just about the time the various idiots were popping post-pirate
Mar 06 17:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla the only bitcoin service hacked by the white house ?
Mar 06 17:55:47 <kakobrekla>	smth like dat
Mar 06 17:56:11 <pigeons>	i dont know anything about ianbakeweall, but kinda weird to just say, "i suspect this guy is involved in the ddos"
Mar 06 17:56:13 *	kakobrekla points bitbet dns servers to CIA
Mar 06 17:56:54 <BitHub>	hah mircea i'm pretty intrested in making some bitcoin commercials
Mar 06 17:57:19 <kakobrekla>	also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1592861#msg1592861
Mar 06 17:57:21 <BitHub>	i had this one idea of like a Mr. Satoshi montage
Mar 06 17:57:22 <mod6>	get the sham-wow guy
Mar 06 17:57:36 <pigeons>	why do they say that guy would ddos mpex?
Mar 06 17:59:38 <BitHub>	bakewell mining
Mar 06 17:59:47 <BitHub>	he's been a lil off lately
Mar 06 17:59:51 <BitHub>	sold my shares
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Mar 06 18:00:30 <kakobrekla>	he has a sock on his head
Mar 06 18:00:30 <BitHub>	got some jah ones instead better divs
Mar 06 18:00:32 <Bugpowder>	he called the S.DICE short pretty well
Mar 06 18:00:35 <kakobrekla>	what more do you need to know?
Mar 06 18:00:45 <Bugpowder>	great timing
Mar 06 18:00:51 <Bugpowder>	if he really did sell at .0062
Mar 06 18:00:59 <Bugpowder>	instead of borrow at .0062 and not sell it in time
Mar 06 18:01:01 <pigeons>	well he still has to buy them back
Mar 06 18:01:12 <Bugpowder>	I didn't see a sale go off at .0062 of that size
Mar 06 18:01:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 32 @ 0.65 = 20.8 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 18:01:44 <Namworld>	erhm... MPEx redirects to the whitehouse.gov website? lol...
Mar 06 18:01:45 <kakobrekla>	hm so acsic miner aint that hot all of a sudden?
Mar 06 18:01:48 <BitHub>	JAH shares atm are much better value to buy than AISCMINER and BAKEWELL
Mar 06 18:01:52 <kakobrekla>	asicminer-pt
Mar 06 18:02:01 <pigeons>	oh so the ddos comment was so that people couldnt buy up s.dice
Mar 06 18:02:32 <BitHub>	i dont get why you would buy asicminer shares where jah's are much better value and get roughly the same pay out div for alot cheaper
Mar 06 18:02:51 <Bugpowder>	does jah have asics?
Mar 06 18:02:51 <pigeons>	but asic right in the name!
Mar 06 18:02:55 <BitHub>	yep
Mar 06 18:03:03 <BitHub>	that's why may as well get jah
Mar 06 18:03:14 <pigeons>	he actually has avalons in his hands?
Mar 06 18:03:16 <Namworld>	BitHub: JAH has nowhere near the same potential tho...
Mar 06 18:03:32 <BitHub>	no avalons in his hands but his asicminer divs are kicking in
Mar 06 18:03:34 <Namworld>	Would go down while ASICMINER will go up in mined coins.
Mar 06 18:03:39 <pigeons>	so he has no asics
Mar 06 18:04:01 <Bugpowder>	dude
Mar 06 18:04:04 <BitHub>	hes got 2 on preorder
Mar 06 18:04:09 <Bugpowder>	DUDE
Mar 06 18:04:15 <pigeons>	2 on preorder = 0 asics
Mar 06 18:04:17 <Bugpowder>	PREORDER IS WORTHLESS
Mar 06 18:04:26 <Bugpowder>	PREORDER IS FUCKED
Mar 06 18:04:36 <BitHub>	wait
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Mar 06 18:04:57 <Bugpowder>	80% chance of worthless
Mar 06 18:05:00 <BitHub>	i'm getting 0.00072538btc a share atm
Mar 06 18:05:06 <dub>	remember they guy runnning JAH is retarded
Mar 06 18:05:12 <BitHub>	daily
Mar 06 18:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol @forum
Mar 06 18:05:17 <dub>	though that hasn't hurt dice
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Mar 06 18:05:45 <Namworld>	Can I short JAH?
Mar 06 18:05:53 <pigeons>	"coming soon"
Mar 06 18:05:58 <dub>	short btc
Mar 06 18:06:09 <dub>	were seeign $2 this week
Mar 06 18:06:17 <Namworld>	Currently I'd be shorting almost anything.
Mar 06 18:06:28 <BitHub>	it was like .06 a few weeks ago hey
Mar 06 18:06:49 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld just because of btc/usd ?
Mar 06 18:07:02 <BitHub>	now its hmmm 2.8?
Mar 06 18:07:05 <Namworld>	No... because those small mining ops don't look good.
Mar 06 18:07:11 <BitHub>	i mean 0.28
Mar 06 18:07:37 <Namworld>	plus USD/BTC price just further promotes shorting
Mar 06 18:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00072389 = 13.9349 BTC [+]
Mar 06 18:07:46 <BitHub>	how much is asicminer paying per share atm?
Mar 06 18:07:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9076 @ 0.00073711 = 6.69 BTC [+]
Mar 06 18:07:54 <BitHub>	div wise
Mar 06 18:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5247 @ 0.00074548 = 3.9115 BTC [+]
Mar 06 18:08:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41427 @ 0.00074999 = 31.0698 BTC [+]
Mar 06 18:08:30 <Namworld>	How much Terahash is ASICMINER at now?
Mar 06 18:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	o hey. "mpoe surges on news of failed ddos"
Mar 06 18:08:46 <BitHub>	6 or something?
Mar 06 18:08:56 <dub>	mircea_popescu: new of USG backing
Mar 06 18:09:00 <dub>	news*
Mar 06 18:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	o that too ya
Mar 06 18:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	"mpex the first bitcoin business to implement quantitative easing"
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Mar 06 18:10:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.262 = 0.524 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:10:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2576 = 1.288 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:10:30 <Namworld>	So, anyway
Mar 06 18:10:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.255 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:11:37 <mod6>	;;ticker
Mar 06 18:11:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.01002, Best ask: 45.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03998, Last trade: 45.05000, 24 hour volume: 120957.15085783, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.23178
Mar 06 18:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	in case anyone doesn't know what http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-05/merkel-looks-east-for-austerity-allies-in-talks-with-hollande.html is all about :
Mar 06 18:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	holland was forever trying to block romania's access to schengen zone
Mar 06 18:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	germany joined them recently
Mar 06 18:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	bucharest shocked them by going fu, we don't want in anymore.
Mar 06 18:12:13 <Namworld>	Who has mining stocks to lend me? As always I have lots of backings available and good borrowing habits.
Mar 06 18:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	merkel is now backpedalling.
Mar 06 18:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	bucharest 1 : berlin 0.
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Mar 06 18:13:42 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: probably a really good call.
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Mar 06 18:14:07 <mod6>	the eurozone will be the zone of misery once this thing starts to unwravel faster than it already is.
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Mar 06 18:15:12 <mod6>	and no one in their right mind would want to lose soverignty to some EU technocrat
Mar 06 18:15:33 <mod6>	btc ftw
Mar 06 18:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 06 18:15:44 <BitHub>	Namworld what sort of stocks?
Mar 06 18:15:59 <BitHub>	which mining stocks
Mar 06 18:16:14 <Namworld>	Pretty much anything that is not ASICMINER
Mar 06 18:16:39 <BitHub>	i got some jah
Mar 06 18:16:50 <BitHub>	i had some bakewell but got rid of them and got some jah
Mar 06 18:17:03 <Namworld>	Any signigicant amount?
Mar 06 18:17:18 <kakobrekla>	first you got baked well now you have rasta jah. in style.
Mar 06 18:17:32 <BitHub>	nice kako
Mar 06 18:17:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 750 @ 0.28155951 = 211.1696 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:17:50 <BitHub>	maybe about 20 to play with nam?
Mar 06 18:18:00 <BitHub>	rest i'm holding
Mar 06 18:18:11 <Namworld>	eh, not enough for me.
Mar 06 18:18:32 <Namworld>	How many do you have total and how long were you planning to hold them?
Mar 06 18:18:48 <jurov>	finally call to miners to increase blocksize: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149668.0
Mar 06 18:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol kakobrekla http://pastebin.com/XU3Wf9gu
Mar 06 18:19:20 <kakobrekla>	what
Mar 06 18:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov hearn is a muppet.
Mar 06 18:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i enjoyed the reply.
Mar 06 18:19:45 <kakobrekla>	:p
Mar 06 18:20:21 <Namworld>	I'll just PM you
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Mar 06 18:22:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.33317 = 1.3327 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 18:23:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	o wait, puts trading ?
Mar 06 18:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	that's new.
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Mar 06 18:23:42 <BitHub>	philly time
Mar 06 18:24:16 <BitHub>	think peeps realizing, overpricing on asicminer
Mar 06 18:24:21 <BitHub>	at teh moment
Mar 06 18:24:51 <dub>	94btc tx fee wat
Mar 06 18:25:23 <dub>	http://blockchain.info/tx/13dffdaef097881acfe9bdb5e6338192242d80161ffec264ee61cf23bc9a1164
Mar 06 18:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, everyone got their mpex/wh screencaps etc ?
Mar 06 18:25:57 <BitHub>	<Line> http://mpex.co  hope no one was using them!
Mar 06 18:25:58 <BitHub>	<ozbot> The White House
Mar 06 18:26:11 <BitHub>	made me lulz
Mar 06 18:26:14 <mod6>	HEH
Mar 06 18:26:31 <mod6>	pretty good depth on the ask side now... (looking at bitcoincharts.com)
Mar 06 18:26:43 <kakobrekla>	yes juding by the traffic, noone was using them. duh!
Mar 06 18:26:56 <kakobrekla>	judging
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Mar 06 18:27:18 <BitHub>	hahha peeps are taking this seriously
Mar 06 18:27:21 <kakobrekla>	was afraid of that.
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Mar 06 18:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	dub badly composed tx ? (insufficient outputs)
Mar 06 18:27:33 <BitHub>	they think mircea has becomea  CIA snitch
Mar 06 18:27:34 <kakobrekla>	ah lone != line
Mar 06 18:27:36 <kakobrekla>	my bad
Mar 06 18:27:36 <BitHub>	lul!
Mar 06 18:28:10 <BitHub>	heh this is probably a huge PR for mp
Mar 06 18:28:22 <BitHub>	time to contact cnn news
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Mar 06 18:28:31 <Bugpowder_>	I called da top
Mar 06 18:28:34 <dub>	mircea_popescu: nobody knows
Mar 06 18:28:36 <BitHub>	troll it a lil further
Mar 06 18:29:48 <dub>	if you want to uber troll stick up an ICE takedown
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Mar 06 18:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	dub sadly i was going to do that april 1st
Mar 06 18:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	but now it's lost all its cache ;/
Mar 06 18:30:15 <doctor_pullfingr>	Bugpowder if that's you,  you called the top every 10 minutes for two months straight
Mar 06 18:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	cachet*
Mar 06 18:30:20 <Bowjob>	mpex.co is .. wtf
Mar 06 18:30:32 <Bowjob>	did usg just sieze it?
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Mar 06 18:30:48 <Bugpowder_>	dude
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Mar 06 18:30:57 <BitHub>	yeah its been seized
Mar 06 18:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 06 18:31:02 <dub>	yeah
Mar 06 18:31:06 <BitHub>	run!!!
Mar 06 18:31:11 <Bugpowder_>	you should redirect to an FBI 'seized domain' page
Mar 06 18:31:12 <dub>	mpex and bitcion protocol hacked at the same time
Mar 06 18:31:13 <mod6>	well, mpex.co still goes to wh.gov so *shrug*
Mar 06 18:31:14 <doctor_pullfingr>	did you have shares there?
Mar 06 18:31:15 <Bugpowder_>	if you really want to troll
Mar 06 18:31:18 <dub>	probably time to panic
Mar 06 18:31:20 <BitHub>	yeah do it mircea
Mar 06 18:31:20 <ineededausername>	huh
Mar 06 18:31:23 <BitHub>	huge PR
Mar 06 18:31:24 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 18:31:30 <Bugpowder_>	could this be causing the fall in BTC prices?
Mar 06 18:31:32 *	mod6 restarts tor
Mar 06 18:31:33 <BitHub>	people will be like WTF MPEX?
Mar 06 18:31:40 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 18:31:40 <Bugpowder_>	AskReddit
Mar 06 18:31:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.30000, Best ask: 44.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 44.40000, 24 hour volume: 121935.01959325, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.24020
Mar 06 18:31:46 <Bowjob>	holy shit
Mar 06 18:31:47 <dub>	Bugpowder_: probably the block size issue
Mar 06 18:31:49 <Bowjob>	we are crashing
Mar 06 18:31:50 <BitHub>	making a reddit post now
Mar 06 18:31:55 <dub>	Bugpowder_: /sprobably/hopefully
Mar 06 18:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	doctor_pullfingr flush your dns
Mar 06 18:32:07 <ineededausername>	oh no, we have lost a few hours of gains
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Mar 06 18:32:09 <Bowjob>	single digits
Mar 06 18:32:14 <Bugpowder_>	I still need to take a pic of the Kruggerand vs 25BTC Casascius coin
Mar 06 18:32:18 <dub>	$2
Mar 06 18:32:24 <Bugpowder_>	would have been better at $49
Mar 06 18:32:32 <Bugpowder_>	than at 44 and falling
Mar 06 18:32:34 <ineededausername>	what was the news?
Mar 06 18:32:43 <dub>	bitcoin is broken
Mar 06 18:32:45 <BitHub>	tweeting fox news now mircea
Mar 06 18:32:45 <Bugpowder_>	I sold
Mar 06 18:32:47 <doctor_pullfingr>	mircea - why? are you pointing to girlsgonebitcoin now?
Mar 06 18:32:47 <ineededausername>	is something happening aside from the block size problem
Mar 06 18:32:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 06 18:33:02 <BitHub>	tweeting all the news networks
Mar 06 18:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	ineededausername not rly.
Mar 06 18:33:12 <Bugpowder_>	ineededausername: I think its the $12 price rise in 36hours
Mar 06 18:33:15 <ineededausername>	oh lol
Mar 06 18:33:19 <Bugpowder_>	that is NOT sustainable
Mar 06 18:33:29 <Bugpowder_>	Sequester shut down MPEX
Mar 06 18:33:31 <Bowjob>	i feel bad now
Mar 06 18:33:35 <ineededausername>	yeah I'd be happy about a crash to $25
Mar 06 18:33:50 <dub>	I expect a lot of people watching their transactiosn not going through
Mar 06 18:33:51 <ineededausername>	because that would make me feel confident about the price again
Mar 06 18:34:05 <dub>	seeing the devs begging miners to fix it
Mar 06 18:34:21 <BitHub>	i don't feel confident in mpex its been seized
Mar 06 18:34:38 <Bowjob>	http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01980/markets_1980043c.jpg
Mar 06 18:34:39 <mircea_popescu>	i personally blame nefario
Mar 06 18:34:55 <dub>	I heard kim dotcom is dumping
Mar 06 18:35:09 <BitHub>	jesus you dont want to be near that guy when he dumps
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Mar 06 18:35:15 <doctor_pullfingr>	Kutcher is still in though right?
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Mar 06 18:35:42 <Bowjob>	49.09, the high of 2013
Mar 06 18:35:45 <Bowjob>	see ya folks
Mar 06 18:35:46 <dub>	oh yeah theres a bitcoin movie called dude where my coins announced too
Mar 06 18:36:07 <Namworld>	ugh... fucking whitehouse.gov, that ain't interesting
Mar 06 18:36:09 <mod6>	(15:34) < dub> I heard kim dotcom is dumping << and if you believe btctalk, he's changing his name to kim bitcoin
Mar 06 18:36:14 <ineededausername>	lol
Mar 06 18:36:29 <BitHub>	haha
Mar 06 18:36:35 <BitHub>	he should
Mar 06 18:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	why not to bit kimdoing
Mar 06 18:36:41 <mod6>	yeah, Dude, where's my Bitcoins?
Mar 06 18:36:50 <BitHub>	kim bit
Mar 06 18:36:59 <Bugpowder_>	Sold at 48.98
Mar 06 18:37:03 <mircea_popescu>	bit baitboom
Mar 06 18:37:08 <Bugpowder_>	and 48.5
Mar 06 18:37:14 <BitHub>	kimdotcomcoin
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Mar 06 18:37:33 <Bugpowder_>	and 48.0, 47.98, 46.5 46, 40.5, 40, 35.0 etc
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Mar 06 18:37:51 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 18:37:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.93469, Best ask: 43.95602, Bid-ask spread: 0.02133, Last trade: 43.93469, 24 hour volume: 122933.59660769, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.23253
Mar 06 18:37:59 <Bowjob>	Tsk
Mar 06 18:38:04 <deadweasel>	time to buy
Mar 06 18:38:23 <deadweasel>	i think 40 is floor maybe?  unless more of the same tomorrow.
Mar 06 18:38:26 <Bugpowder_>	we have erased half of today's gains
Mar 06 18:38:31 <deadweasel>	oh yes
Mar 06 18:38:35 <Bowjob>	this is actually a flash crash
Mar 06 18:38:35 <Bugpowder_>	$36
Mar 06 18:38:36 <deadweasel>	but it was a 10 dollar day
Mar 06 18:38:37 <Bowjob>	50 later
Mar 06 18:38:42 <deadweasel>	or more
Mar 06 18:38:51 <deadweasel>	you think 36 is settling?
Mar 06 18:38:52 <Bugpowder_>	The weekend is coming
Mar 06 18:38:58 <Bugpowder_>	nah, I think we go back up
Mar 06 18:39:09 <dub>	this is awesome
Mar 06 18:39:10 <Bugpowder_>	maybe we will touch 36
Mar 06 18:39:13 <BitHub>	buy now
Mar 06 18:39:14 <deadweasel>	i know.  I think we do to, if only after the weekend and the media gets through
Mar 06 18:39:18 <BitHub>	see a big surge in a hour
Mar 06 18:39:21 <Bugpowder_>	I just wanted to take some profits
Mar 06 18:39:23 <deadweasel>	people will be catching on again
Mar 06 18:39:26 <Bugpowder_>	been holding since $2.65
Mar 06 18:39:26 <deadweasel>	smart man
Mar 06 18:39:32 <Bowjob>	whats going on with mpex
Mar 06 18:39:33 <Bowjob>	really
Mar 06 18:39:34 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 18:39:34 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 06 18:39:37 <deadweasel>	can always buy in again at 36
Mar 06 18:39:43 <Bugpowder_>	I have an order
Mar 06 18:39:43 <deadweasel>	if it goes there
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Mar 06 18:39:45 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 06 18:39:47 <error4733>	obama  TFW
Mar 06 18:39:48 <deadweasel>	i bet you do!
Mar 06 18:40:02 <Bugpowder_>	but I need to figure out this wash sale shit with long term vs. short term cap gains
Mar 06 18:40:04 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 18:40:06 <Bowjob>	wow
Mar 06 18:40:07 <Bowjob>	xD
Mar 06 18:40:11 <BitHub>	kimdotcom just dumped
Mar 06 18:40:12 <Bugpowder_>	Don't want to be taxed at 39.6%
Mar 06 18:40:14 <BitHub>	and it was nasty
Mar 06 18:40:18 <Bugpowder_>	;;ticker
Mar 06 18:40:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.86000, Best ask: 43.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 42.86000, 24 hour volume: 123951.17643418, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.21823
Mar 06 18:41:09 <Namworld>	10k to go back to 43
Mar 06 18:41:13 <Namworld>	49*
Mar 06 18:41:17 <Namworld>	meh
Mar 06 18:41:23 <Namworld>	not really a huge dump
Mar 06 18:41:35 <dub>	just wait
Mar 06 18:41:44 <Namworld>	So where's my MPEx now?
Mar 06 18:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ actually tax thing is a major disincentive to selling for many ppl.
Mar 06 18:41:57 <Bugpowder_>	shouldn't S.DICE be rallying right about now???
Mar 06 18:42:06 <Bugpowder_>	mircea_popescu: no shit!
Mar 06 18:42:19 <Bugpowder_>	How tha fuc am I gonna get my Tesla
Mar 06 18:42:27 <Bugpowder_>	if I'm taxed at income
Mar 06 18:42:30 <Namworld>	S.DICE can't rally if MPEx is unavailable
Mar 06 18:42:31 <Bugpowder_>	+ state
Mar 06 18:42:59 <Bugpowder_>	Now my mtgox account is getting moved to US
Mar 06 18:43:03 <Bugpowder_>	FATCA is in effect
Mar 06 18:43:09 <Bugpowder_>	FBAR is in effect
Mar 06 18:43:20 <Bugpowder_>	can't hide those transactions, gotta report it.
Mar 06 18:43:33 <Bugpowder_>	or risk the wrath of IRS
Mar 06 18:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	sucks to be you.
Mar 06 18:43:45 <Bugpowder_>	I cry myself to sleep
Mar 06 18:43:49 <deadweasel>	make a plan, determine where/what denomination/ how to store your wealth.  Find property, do the research to dtermine best course of action.
Mar 06 18:44:02 <BitHub>	that's terrible Bug
Mar 06 18:44:04 <mod6>	and S.DICE isn't unavailble, the mpex.coinbr.com is processing orders
Mar 06 18:44:08 <Bowjob>	just do irl transactions, no record
Mar 06 18:44:15 <BitHub>	any americans want acces to a mtgox account?
Mar 06 18:44:17 <mod6>	well, at least my stat went through anyway
Mar 06 18:44:22 <Namworld>	I can't connect to mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 18:44:26 <Bugpowder_>	I am selling below gox on localbitcoins
Mar 06 18:44:33 <Bugpowder_>	in a major metro area
Mar 06 18:44:38 <Bugpowder_>	well
Mar 06 18:44:43 <BitHub>	where?
Mar 06 18:44:43 <Bugpowder_>	not below gox right now :)
Mar 06 18:44:47 <Bugpowder_>	DC
Mar 06 18:44:48 <mod6>	works fine for me Namworld, just tried it again
Mar 06 18:44:52 <BitHub>	mmk
Mar 06 18:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 18:44:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.43692, Best ask: 42.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.46308, Last trade: 42.43692, 24 hour volume: 124522.10296094, 24 hour low: 40.01120, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.20818
Mar 06 18:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	o le wow.
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Mar 06 18:45:12 <BitHub>	Bugpowder i have a mtgox account
Mar 06 18:45:16 <Bugpowder_>	I have one too
Mar 06 18:45:18 <BitHub>	want to go through me?
Mar 06 18:45:21 <Bugpowder_>	no
Mar 06 18:45:24 <BitHub>	i'm not us resident
Mar 06 18:45:25 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/
Mar 06 18:45:31 <Bowjob>	look at the sell off
Mar 06 18:45:33 <Bugpowder_>	I don't want to get fucked
Mar 06 18:45:37 <Bugpowder_>	not worth the risk
Mar 06 18:45:40 <Namworld>	I don't have tools to trade on it I mean. I could do it manually tho
Mar 06 18:45:48 <mod6>	ahh.
Mar 06 18:46:02 <BitHub>	you're going to get fucked by coinlab anyway
Mar 06 18:46:09 <Bugpowder_>	I told all my friends to sell this morning too.
Mar 06 18:46:10 <Bugpowder_>	some did
Mar 06 18:46:11 <BitHub>	while still wearing your pants
Mar 06 18:46:22 <BitHub>	at least i remove your pants first
Mar 06 18:46:23 <Bugpowder_>	it will prob bounce though
Mar 06 18:46:34 <mod6>	i think we're gonna retrace down to say $35, and the rally will continue
Mar 06 18:46:38 <Bugpowder_>	yeah
Mar 06 18:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85433966 = 854.3397 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:46:47 <dub>	I dunno
Mar 06 18:46:48 <Bugpowder_>	UH OH
Mar 06 18:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	oho
Mar 06 18:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	boys and girls... this looks like the end.
Mar 06 18:46:59 <dub>	when news hits that the network is broken..
Mar 06 18:47:10 <dub>	its gonna be a fire sale
Mar 06 18:47:15 <Bowjob>	network is broken?
Mar 06 18:47:22 <mod6>	im still long term bullish. if it goes down low, i'll just BTFD :D
Mar 06 18:48:02 <mod6>	and I don't think the network is "broken" its just piling up with tx's
Mar 06 18:48:05 <dub>	Bowjob: block size limit hit, transactiosn are piling up
Mar 06 18:48:11 <mod6>	so one guy was asking to increase the block size
Mar 06 18:48:21 <Bowjob>	i vote ban S.Dice for the meantime
Mar 06 18:48:22 <Bugpowder_>	That put short was profitable though right?
Mar 06 18:48:25 <Bowjob>	then fix the blocksize
Mar 06 18:48:32 <Bowjob>	then let dice have its fill
Mar 06 18:48:51 <Bowjob>	or at least make the bets 1 BTC min
Mar 06 18:48:54 <Bowjob>	stop the dust
Mar 06 18:48:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27233775 = 272.3378 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:48:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.31662031 = 316.6203 BTC [+]
Mar 06 18:48:56 <Bugpowder_>	how much of dice profits are from bets below .1?
Mar 06 18:49:01 <Bowjob>	not a lot
Mar 06 18:49:05 <dub>	I think a healthy return to $2 first
Mar 06 18:49:11 <dub>	is what we need
Mar 06 18:49:14 <Bowjob>	its below 4 BTC from doogs
Mar 06 18:49:16 <Bowjob>	chart
Mar 06 18:49:18 <dub>	and when I say we I mean I
Mar 06 18:49:22 <Bugpowder_>	shake out the weak hands
Mar 06 18:49:24 <Bugpowder_>	lol
Mar 06 18:49:30 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ the put short was sold 1.3-1.1 iirc
Mar 06 18:49:33 <BitHub>	s.dice should pay higher fees
Mar 06 18:49:34 <Bugpowder_>	yeah
Mar 06 18:49:37 <BitHub>	spamming cents
Mar 06 18:49:45 <dub>	s.deuce is paying higher fees as of today
Mar 06 18:49:55 <BitHub>	s.douche
Mar 06 18:50:03 <dub>	its part of the problem
Mar 06 18:50:07 <BitHub>	s stands for spam
Mar 06 18:50:20 <dub>	instead of only their txn stalling errybodys are
Mar 06 18:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	nobody can afford to outpay s.dice
Mar 06 18:50:42 <doctor_pullfingr>	maybe s.dice could charge a rpx for bets
Mar 06 18:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	consequently, all the libertards will get pushed out of bitcoin
Mar 06 18:50:47 <Bugpowder_>	42.00
Mar 06 18:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	i'm rejoicing.
Mar 06 18:50:52 <BitHub>	someone should hax them for a week
Mar 06 18:51:02 <doctor_pullfingr>	mircea why rejoicing?
Mar 06 18:51:05 <BitHub>	i'm sick of sitting at cafes for 4 hours waiting for a transaction to confirm
Mar 06 18:51:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.3428 = 0.6856 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:51:19 <Bowjob>	this is such a bear day
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Mar 06 18:51:24 <Bowjob>	i cant bear to watch this bullshit
Mar 06 18:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27169201 = 271.692 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:51:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3160137 = 316.0137 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	definitely covering
Mar 06 18:52:01 <Bugpowder_>	yup
Mar 06 18:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.5300001 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:52:06 <Bugpowder_>	41.93
Mar 06 18:52:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85593586 = 855.9359 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 18:52:21 <Bugpowder_>	The dude finally made a profit
Mar 06 18:52:24 <mircea_popescu>	nice race too, i wonder how much they manage to squeeze through
Mar 06 18:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ he made pretty good loot, .3-4 over what, 15k ?
Mar 06 18:52:44 <Bugpowder_>	yeah
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Mar 06 18:52:54 <BitHub>	mircea
Mar 06 18:52:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.344 = 5.16 BTC [+]
Mar 06 18:52:56 <Bugpowder_>	is 24hprc even dropping yet?
Mar 06 18:52:57 <BitHub>	are u seeing this?
Mar 06 18:53:00 <mircea_popescu>	actuallly i think the calls are slightly ahead too
Mar 06 18:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub "this"
Mar 06 18:53:05 <BitHub>	otc room lulz
Mar 06 18:53:10 <mircea_popescu>	im not in -otc
Mar 06 18:53:28 <BitHub>	oh man its so lulz
Mar 06 18:53:48 <Bowjob>	dump dump dump USD
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Mar 06 18:54:25 <BitHub>	<+starsoccer> wtf do you mean cia snitch
Mar 06 18:54:29 <Bugpowder_>	so which txns were stalled?  All mine went thru?
Mar 06 18:54:47 <mod6>	starsoccer is a scammer
Mar 06 18:54:51 <mod6>	and for some reason, an op
Mar 06 18:54:52 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/283/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-hit-50-in-march/
Mar 06 18:55:00 <BitHub>	<danieldaniel> mircea got raided - lul
Mar 06 18:55:00 <Bowjob>	lots of free btc here
Mar 06 18:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 bitcoin-otc "selective evaporation" succeeded.
Mar 06 18:55:13 <mod6>	:]
Mar 06 18:55:17 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone wonders why gmaxwell is an idiot, that's it right there.
Mar 06 18:55:38 <BitHub>	people are really getting upset in otc mircea
Mar 06 18:55:44 <BitHub>	they think you're really gone haha
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Mar 06 18:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 06 18:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	that they don't know about this chan i can see
Mar 06 18:56:00 <BitHub>	i should paste bin it for you
Mar 06 18:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	but they don't know twitter, either ? anything ?
Mar 06 18:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	so go ahead.
Mar 06 18:56:20 <BitHub>	i've never used it
Mar 06 18:56:38 <BitHub>	its funny as hell tho, main topic of discussion atm
Mar 06 18:56:43 <Bowjob>	someone is clearly dumping
Mar 06 18:56:45 <mod6>	no dandan fled, they were just spreading disinformation
Mar 06 18:56:50 <mod6>	i set 'em straight
Mar 06 18:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.5300001 BTC [-]
Mar 06 18:57:06 <BitHub>	<bitcoinbubble> what happened to mpex.co
Mar 06 18:57:09 <dub>	I tried :( [18:55] <dub> bitcoinbubble: jews did mpex
Mar 06 18:57:13 <Bugpowder_>	Oooohhh yeah
Mar 06 18:57:17 <Bugpowder_>	41.12
Mar 06 18:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	o boy.
Mar 06 18:57:28 <BitHub>	lul dub
Mar 06 18:57:31 <BitHub>	i saw some of those
Mar 06 18:57:36 <Namworld>	5k BTC purchase and we'd be back to 48... thin line...
Mar 06 18:57:53 <Namworld>	I'm not sure we're done rising yet.
Mar 06 18:57:56 <mod6>	(15:53) <+mod6> (15:52) < danieldaniel> MPEX is gone << DDOS brought down the main site, you can get to it here: mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 18:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [+]
Mar 06 18:58:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.47 = 3.76 BTC [+]
Mar 06 18:58:08 <BitHub>	<bitcoinbubble> did mpex guy run off with the money?
Mar 06 18:58:11 <BitHub>	lul!
Mar 06 18:58:32 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 18:58:35 <gribble>	471.638897 seconds
Mar 06 18:58:38 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 18:58:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.11111, Best ask: 41.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38889, Last trade: 42.00000, 24 hour volume: 126252.65323883, 24 hour low: 40.14460, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.18147
Mar 06 18:58:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol jesus it's gonna be a day soon
Mar 06 18:58:48 <Bowjob>	:(
Mar 06 18:58:54 <Bowjob>	just go to coinlab
Mar 06 18:58:57 <Bowjob>	watch the dump
Mar 06 18:59:06 <Bugpowder_>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets?theme=dark
Mar 06 18:59:18 <Bugpowder_>	is doing well
Mar 06 18:59:21 <blu3gr1ffon>	i like to watch it go up.
Mar 06 18:59:21 <BitHub>	"sell out to coinlab you know you want to"
Mar 06 18:59:22 <dub>	oh shi bitcoinity came back?
Mar 06 18:59:34 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 18:59:35 <Bugpowder_>	ya
Mar 06 19:00:01 <BitHub>	they should have that on their site
Mar 06 19:00:06 <Bowjob>	this is actually called a bear trap
Mar 06 19:00:19 <blu3gr1ffon>	how so?
Mar 06 19:00:23 <Namworld>	7 minute lag
Mar 06 19:00:25 <Bugpowder_>	LOL
Mar 06 19:00:30 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 19:00:34 <gribble>	505.11974 seconds
Mar 06 19:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 420 @ 0.0046 = 1.932 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:00:37 <blu3gr1ffon>	holy crap
Mar 06 19:00:37 <Bowjob>	5k buy then 48
Mar 06 19:00:38 <Bugpowder_>	fastcash4bitcoins suddenly has funds available to buy again
Mar 06 19:00:38 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 19:00:50 <Bugpowder_>	I KNEW they just shut down buying into the blow off top
Mar 06 19:00:55 <BitHub>	heh all of a sudden hey bug
Mar 06 19:00:56 <Bugpowder_>	they had funds all along :)
Mar 06 19:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ prolly ppl sold to them tho
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Mar 06 19:01:23 <Bugpowder_>	mircea_popescu:
Mar 06 19:01:29 <Bugpowder_>	Bot from them
Mar 06 19:01:35 <Bugpowder_>	and only via bitcoinsdirect
Mar 06 19:01:36 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:01:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27153039 = 271.5304 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:01:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.12100, Best ask: 41.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.77900, Last trade: 41.02010, 24 hour volume: 126502.71591685, 24 hour low: 40.30100, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.17366
Mar 06 19:01:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.31586188 = 315.8619 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 19:01:42 <Bugpowder_>	which is an email based service, so I doubt it.
Mar 06 19:01:45 <thestringpuller>	hahahahahahahahahabaha
Mar 06 19:01:48 <Bowjob>	we just hit under 41
Mar 06 19:01:52 <Bowjob>	its a market manipulator
Mar 06 19:01:55 <thestringpuller>	the algorithm worked!!!!!
Mar 06 19:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:02:02 <Bugpowder_>	Annoyed that I didn't sell more
Mar 06 19:02:11 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/
Mar 06 19:02:13 <Bowjob>	watch this
Mar 06 19:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ i didn't sell any.
Mar 06 19:02:19 <Bugpowder_>	didn't want trigger fatca
Mar 06 19:02:21 <mod6>	check out the depth now though: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Mar 06 19:02:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85630842 = 856.3084 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:02:33 <Bowjob>	fuck that fuckta
Mar 06 19:02:35 <Bowjob>	who cares
Mar 06 19:02:36 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 19:02:37 <mod6>	i think we're going right backup
Mar 06 19:02:51 <Bowjob>	we just hot $40
Mar 06 19:03:04 <Bowjob>	https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/
Mar 06 19:03:13 <Bowjob>	Canadian bitcoins.. buy $55.. sell $42
Mar 06 19:03:13 <blu3gr1ffon>	forty, wow.
Mar 06 19:03:14 <Bowjob>	ol
Mar 06 19:03:19 <Bowjob>	$39
Mar 06 19:03:23 <jurov>	10 minute lag... and bitcoincharts not with out either
Mar 06 19:03:53 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 10000
Mar 06 19:03:56 <Bugpowder_>	hmm... wonder if my mtgox bids actually got cancells
Mar 06 19:03:59 <Bugpowder_>	or not
Mar 06 19:04:02 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 100000
Mar 06 19:04:03 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 392180.3720 USD and would take the last price down to 37.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 39.2180 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds
Mar 06 19:04:03 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2549350.7477 USD and would take the last price down to 14.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 25.4935 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds
Mar 06 19:04:25 <Bugpowder_>	39.5
Mar 06 19:04:26 <thestringpuller>	ick thank you gribble
Mar 06 19:04:30 <jurov>	ooooh quite a difference
Mar 06 19:04:54 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 06 19:05:02 <thestringpuller>	42 is the real price
Mar 06 19:05:16 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Mar 06 19:05:18 <thestringpuller>	assbot....
Mar 06 19:05:29 <dub>	;;obip 1000
Mar 06 19:05:29 <gribble>	The weighted average price of BTC, 1000.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 41.38470 USD. | Data vintage: 86.2046 seconds
Mar 06 19:05:34 <blu3gr1ffon>	i'm glad it's happening now.
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Mar 06 19:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	 "^OIX": "7d": {"avg": "4746815366","min": "3024983876","max": "4950599490","vsh": "no","vsa": "1.89472677534E+12","cnt": ""}
Mar 06 19:05:58 <blu3gr1ffon>	it's been too nuts lately.  need some stability
Mar 06 19:05:59 <mircea_popescu>	ftr.
Mar 06 19:06:54 <thestringpuller>	we still at 47 on OIX hmm
Mar 06 19:07:05 <Bowjob>	you can still sell bitcoins at 47 dollars each
Mar 06 19:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 200 @ 0.05329654 = 10.6593 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:07:07 <doctor_pullfingr>	mircea - I thought you were in jail?
Mar 06 19:07:07 <Bowjob>	i mean
Mar 06 19:07:09 <Bowjob>	43.
Mar 06 19:07:14 <jurov>	pssst, gox is falling
Mar 06 19:07:16 <mircea_popescu>	doctor_pullfingr me ?
Mar 06 19:07:33 <jurov>	seems the lag grows faster than clock time
Mar 06 19:07:42 <mircea_popescu>	jurov cheeze
Mar 06 19:07:45 <jurov>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 19:07:48 <gribble>	814.286864 seconds
Mar 06 19:07:51 <blu3gr1ffon>	lol
Mar 06 19:08:15 <Namworld>	xD
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Mar 06 19:08:43 <kakobrekla>	mpex deposits - faster than mtgox trading engine.
Mar 06 19:08:49 <blu3gr1ffon>	36 does seem right Bugpowder_
Mar 06 19:09:04 <blu3gr1ffon>	then up from there
Mar 06 19:09:32 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ya but mtgox is free*
Mar 06 19:09:57 <thestringpuller>	mpex is free too
Mar 06 19:10:05 <kakobrekla>	its free to read.
Mar 06 19:10:08 <thestringpuller>	if you know the right people
Mar 06 19:10:14 <thestringpuller>	:)
Mar 06 19:10:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.85668542 = 856.6854 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:11:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.27136871 = 271.3687 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:11:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.31571 = 315.71 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:11:49 <Bugpowder_>	OOOOooooooo
Mar 06 19:11:53 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: mpex seems inaccessible atm?
Mar 06 19:12:03 <blu3gr1ffon>	so is coinbase out of btc?
Mar 06 19:12:13 <Bugpowder_>	here we go
Mar 06 19:12:15 <Bugpowder_>	28.5
Mar 06 19:12:17 <Bugpowder_>	38.5
Mar 06 19:12:19 <blu3gr1ffon>	haha
Mar 06 19:12:19 <Bugpowder_>	hehehe
Mar 06 19:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube main site is being ddosed. use proxies
Mar 06 19:12:27 <kakobrekla>	>Bitcoin Price Reaches All-Time High after Mt. Gox Announces CoinLab Partnership
Mar 06 19:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	mpex.coinbr.com etc.
Mar 06 19:12:34 <kakobrekla>	yeah, i also farted twice before the high.
Mar 06 19:12:53 <Bugpowder_>	So funny, coinlab didn't even have a chance to fuck it up
Mar 06 19:12:56 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: ah, didn't know there were proxies. :)
Mar 06 19:13:08 <Bugpowder_>	I wonder if my bids will get hit?
Mar 06 19:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/309349518632157185
Mar 06 19:13:42 <Bugpowder_>	This is definitely a bad time for a market order
Mar 06 19:13:45 <jurov>	seems for mtgox is easier to split US off than to fix their engine
Mar 06 19:14:03 <Namworld>	this trend could revert in an instead like all the previous rises
Mar 06 19:14:14 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld true.
Mar 06 19:14:19 <Bugpowder_>	will my bids clear in time to catch the dump?
Mar 06 19:14:38 <Bugpowder_>	Namworld, the last 48 hours were very very simlar to last top
Mar 06 19:14:44 <Bugpowder_>	rise of over $10 in a day
Mar 06 19:14:57 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:14:59 <Namworld>	eh, who knows
Mar 06 19:15:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.89000, Best ask: 39.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 39.89000, 24 hour volume: 133904.00033926, 24 hour low: 38.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.87318
Mar 06 19:15:05 <Bowjob>	fuck
Mar 06 19:15:24 <Bugpowder_>	broke the 40 like nothing
Mar 06 19:15:30 <Bugpowder_>	the 36 is the real support though
Mar 06 19:15:44 <Bugpowder_>	err  35
Mar 06 19:15:48 <kakobrekla>	34
Mar 06 19:16:03 <Bugpowder_>	ya
Mar 06 19:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	12
Mar 06 19:16:05 <Bugpowder_>	33
Mar 06 19:16:08 <Bugpowder_>	13.5
Mar 06 19:16:13 <kakobrekla>	no, 34.
Mar 06 19:16:27 <Bugpowder_>	34 from the chart, 33 from the bids
Mar 06 19:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:17:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.25000, Best ask: 39.90000, Bid-ask spread: 1.65000, Last trade: 39.90000, 24 hour volume: 134097.13923724, 24 hour low: 38.25000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.85953
Mar 06 19:17:35 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: ah cool. so i presume your twitter will keep listing the latest proxies?
Mar 06 19:17:46 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube if need be, yeah. or here.
Mar 06 19:18:14 <nanotube>	mmk
Mar 06 19:18:15 <Bugpowder_>	this is what happens when 100 people hit SELL MARKET at the same time
Mar 06 19:18:44 <Bugpowder_>	some bit now at 40.2
Mar 06 19:18:46 <Bugpowder_>	bid
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Mar 06 19:19:59 <hctib>	hello
Mar 06 19:20:08 <hctib>	what's the damage?
Mar 06 19:20:11 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:20:23 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 06 19:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox exploded
Mar 06 19:20:44 <hctib>	40.4 is my best guess at the ticker
Mar 06 19:20:59 <hctib>	and mpex?
Mar 06 19:21:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23556839 = 235.5684 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:21:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26615673 = 266.1567 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3108139 = 310.8139 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:21:47 <mircea_popescu>	hctib ppl are covering long positions desperately for the past hour or so
Mar 06 19:22:00 <error4733>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149803.msg1591395#msg1591395
Mar 06 19:22:06 <error4733>	nice read
Mar 06 19:22:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.86980593 = 869.8059 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:22:37 <jurov>	lol slush saw the mpex page and said "alpaca socks eshop was never hacked, too."
Mar 06 19:22:49 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:23:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.89000, Best ask: 40.51000, Bid-ask spread: 0.62000, Last trade: 39.89000, 24 hour volume: 137698.19346541, 24 hour low: 38.00100, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.72163
Mar 06 19:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yes but he's sore, cause he got linoded.
Mar 06 19:23:40 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what is your private key?
Mar 06 19:23:43 <thestringpuller>	lol
Mar 06 19:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	but tell him i said his pool never saw as much btc as mpex saw this year alone.
Mar 06 19:24:54 <Bugpowder_>	nice, bids finnally are open
Mar 06 19:25:01 <Bugpowder_>	probably will bounce now :)
Mar 06 19:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:25:14 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 19:25:14 <gribble>	469.590851 seconds
Mar 06 19:25:20 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 06 19:25:48 <kakobrekla>	still whole infrastructure is falling apart
Mar 06 19:25:52 <kakobrekla>	when major movements happen
Mar 06 19:26:06 <kakobrekla>	unserious
Mar 06 19:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla this is true.
Mar 06 19:26:31 <Bowjob>	;ticker
Mar 06 19:26:46 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:26:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.00100, Best ask: 38.03130, Bid-ask spread: 0.03030, Last trade: 38.03130, 24 hour volume: 138552.24765830, 24 hour low: 37.90000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.68042
Mar 06 19:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	funny thing is, the 49-39 drop happened on 30k bitcoins worht of volume
Mar 06 19:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	which is like jackshit
Mar 06 19:27:57 <Bugpowder_>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png   is STALE
Mar 06 19:28:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.26 = 2.6 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:28:42 <kakobrekla>	everything is broke
Mar 06 19:28:45 <kakobrekla>	txes dont get confirmed
Mar 06 19:28:52 <kakobrekla>	goxlag is days
Mar 06 19:29:00 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla mpex trades!
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Mar 06 19:29:02 <kakobrekla>	last price uknown
Mar 06 19:29:05 <dub>	a LOT more coin jsut showed up for sale
Mar 06 19:29:13 <kakobrekla>	unknown
Mar 06 19:29:26 <jurov>	kakobrekla can't you just make assbot query proxy address?
Mar 06 19:29:28 <dub>	if it bounces its only gonna be for a minute
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Mar 06 19:30:04 <kakobrekla>	some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.
Mar 06 19:30:36 <dub>	fucking pastebin down too
Mar 06 19:30:43 <dub>	shit is fucked up
Mar 06 19:31:09 <blu3gr1ffon>	dub, what do you mean it will only bounec for a minute?
Mar 06 19:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	Why is your site redirecting to the whitehouse?  I thought it was secure?
Mar 06 19:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	Whitehouse was hacked.
Mar 06 19:31:55 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 06 19:32:07 <dub>	I think some people realised they might miss out on selling at 50, a shitload more asks showed up there recently, presumably to catch teh bounce
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Mar 06 19:32:11 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:32:22 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 06 19:32:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.87894633 = 878.9463 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:32:45 <Bowjob>	hold on tight, we are bouncing back
Mar 06 19:32:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23360747 = 233.6075 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:32:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26253021 = 262.5302 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:32:58 <Bowjob>	panic selling and panic buying is always a bad idea
Mar 06 19:32:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.30740716 = 307.4072 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:33:05 <kakobrekla>	after someone makes a fast trading engine
Mar 06 19:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	tell it to the options ppl lol
Mar 06 19:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:33:24 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 06 19:33:33 <Bowjob>	thats cuz someone dumped USD
Mar 06 19:33:39 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox is becoming as useful as bitcoinica.
Mar 06 19:33:40 <Bowjob>	it caused BTC to go billions
Mar 06 19:33:42 <hctib>	I can't connect to mpex.co
Mar 06 19:33:57 <Bowjob>	cant we have an anonymous exchange
Mar 06 19:34:00 <dub>	kakobrekla: perhaps something in teh /topic?
Mar 06 19:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	hctib mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 06 19:34:04 <Bowjob>	and an anonymous debit card
Mar 06 19:34:06 <Bowjob>	..
Mar 06 19:34:11 <hctib>	thanks
Mar 06 19:34:12 <kakobrekla>	dub noone reads that
Mar 06 19:34:25 <dub>	but right now we cant go READ TEH FUCKING TOPIC
Mar 06 19:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	dub misses his creature conforts.
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Mar 06 19:35:14 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:35:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.00000, Best ask: 38.00190, Bid-ask spread: 1.00190, Last trade: 37.00000, 24 hour volume: 142568.29851439, 24 hour low: 37.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.49249
Mar 06 19:35:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1573 = 15.73 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 19:37:20 *	kakobrekla has changed the topic to: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ || CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 06 19:37:21 *	kakobrekla has changed the topic to: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ || CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 06 19:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you were gonna go CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://whitehouse.gov
Mar 06 19:38:26 <kakobrekla>	:p
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Mar 06 19:39:56 <dub>	it'd sure be nice to trade on this
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Mar 06 19:41:25 <dub>	oh hey gox farted out an update
Mar 06 19:41:26 <dub>	<bitcoinRT> Mar07 00:33:45 mtgox  x499 5,774.6084 @    37.8195421  USD
Mar 06 19:41:33 <jurov>	coinbr keeps getting mpex deposits as if nothing was happening
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Mar 06 19:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67800 @ 0.00073204 = 49.6323 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67800 @ 0.00073204 = 49.6323 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8573 @ 0.00074999 = 6.4297 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:42:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8573 @ 0.00074999 = 6.4297 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6515 @ 0.00074999 = 4.8862 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6515 @ 0.00074999 = 4.8862 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:42:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1817112 @ 0.00075 = 1362.834 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1817112 @ 0.00075 = 1362.834 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P210T] 10 @ 0.05264551 = 0.5265 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:42:28 <jurov>	business.as.usual
Mar 06 19:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol now there's an echo ?
Mar 06 19:42:52 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:42:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.31000, Best ask: 37.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.69000, Last trade: 36.31000, 24 hour volume: 146035.97593336, 24 hour low: 36.31000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.31001
Mar 06 19:43:19 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 06 19:44:08 <Bowjob>	i shoulda listned to bug that time
Mar 06 19:44:09 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 19:45:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 200 @ 0.05608295 = 11.2166 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 19:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	o nelly
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Mar 06 19:47:46 <jcpham>	y hello
Mar 06 19:47:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23340951 = 233.4095 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:47:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26219875 = 262.1988 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:47:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3070958 = 307.0958 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:48:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 76 @ 0.65 = 49.4 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.87975412 = 879.7541 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:48:40 <dub>	mpex making banque
Mar 06 19:48:55 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HruSsPKVjuc   :P
Mar 06 19:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:49:13 <Eduard_Munteanu>	s/copacul/bitcoinul/
Mar 06 19:49:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.15664416 = 156.6442 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:49:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.17343444 = 173.4344 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:49:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.19179501 = 191.795 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:49:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.2117738 = 211.7738 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23340951 = 233.4095 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	ohoho. capitulation eh
Mar 06 19:49:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26219875 = 262.1988 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:49:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.3070958 = 307.0958 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:50:54 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:50:58 <Bowjob>	gah
Mar 06 19:51:00 <Bowjob>	fuck
Mar 06 19:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.425 = 2.975 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:51:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.31000, Best ask: 36.34608, Bid-ask spread: 0.03608, Last trade: 36.31000, 24 hour volume: 157207.79114001, 24 hour low: 33.83133, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.69425
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Mar 06 19:51:31 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I should really go play a game or something, else I might do something stupid like buy in again too early.
Mar 06 19:51:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Mar 06 19:51:38 *	Eduard_Munteanu sold at 48.5
Mar 06 19:51:54 <jcpham>	i did some profit taking at 50 otc
Mar 06 19:51:54 <Bowjob>	http://blockchain.info/tx/13dffdaef097881acfe9bdb5e6338192242d80161ffec264ee61cf23bc9a1164
Mar 06 19:51:58 <Bowjob>	Look at this guys
Mar 06 19:52:00 <jcpham>	which i am mildly proud of
Mar 06 19:52:00 <jurov>	maybe start buying slowly
Mar 06 19:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.44 = 14.4 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:52:12 <Bowjob>	bug
Mar 06 19:52:12 <Bowjob>	dude
Mar 06 19:52:17 <Bowjob>	how did u see that coming
Mar 06 19:52:18 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 06 19:52:26 <jcpham>	eligius mined it
Mar 06 19:52:29 <Bowjob>	i woulda believed u honestly if u didnt buy puts and got killed
Mar 06 19:52:29 <jcpham>	i asked luke
Mar 06 19:52:30 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I'm worried bad news might hit US, then Europe by tommorow and they'll sell further. The market depth is rather pathetic.
Mar 06 19:52:41 <jcpham>	eligius mined the 95btc txn block
Mar 06 19:52:51 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu and to think ppl were whining about s.dice mkt depth
Mar 06 19:53:11 <Eduard_Munteanu>	mircea_popescu: market depth seemed much better before we hit $40
Mar 06 19:53:23 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Like, a couple of days ago.
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Mar 06 19:53:32 <blu3gr1ffon>	yup, coinbase is empty
Mar 06 19:53:48 <dub>	this is glorious
Mar 06 19:53:50 <blu3gr1ffon>	how do I get BTC now?
Mar 06 19:53:59 <Eduard_Munteanu>	blu3gr1ffon: mtgox?
Mar 06 19:54:03 <dub>	why would you want it?
Mar 06 19:54:05 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Oh, you have USD.
Mar 06 19:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	blu3gr1ffon you can't, it has to crash for the iluminati to make bank first.
Mar 06 19:54:16 <blu3gr1ffon>	oh fuck it
Mar 06 19:54:22 <dub>	there will be plenty for everyone under $1
Mar 06 19:54:29 <jcpham>	hahahaha dub
Mar 06 19:54:31 <blu3gr1ffon>	hooray?  :/
Mar 06 19:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	fudb
Mar 06 19:54:50 <dub>	shh
Mar 06 19:54:58 <jcpham>	hooray if you sold today
Mar 06 19:55:03 <jcpham>	not hooray if you bought
Mar 06 19:55:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:55:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.00000, Best ask: 35.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 35.60000, 24 hour volume: 157738.28216881, 24 hour low: 33.83133, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.65915
Mar 06 19:55:18 <Bowjob>	Wow
Mar 06 19:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	le 35
Mar 06 19:55:21 <Bowjob>	I can't watch
Mar 06 19:55:22 <Bowjob>	it hurts
Mar 06 19:55:26 <jcpham>	hge haircut today for any buyer
Mar 06 19:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	teaches them to buy into scams.
Mar 06 19:55:49 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 19:55:55 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 06 19:56:02 <blu3gr1ffon>	so laggy it's broken
Mar 06 19:56:03 <jcpham>	buy before noon, lose %20 by dinner
Mar 06 19:56:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 06 19:57:08 <dub>	;;calc 157738*43.66
Mar 06 19:57:08 <gribble>	6886841.08
Mar 06 19:57:13 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 19:57:17 <dub>	record?
Mar 06 19:57:19 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 06 19:57:26 <jcpham>	borked
Mar 06 19:57:31 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 19:57:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.10667, Best ask: 35.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.88333, Last trade: 34.70000, 24 hour volume: 157860.94560379, 24 hour low: 33.83133, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.64208
Mar 06 19:57:35 <error4733>	7M$ wow
Mar 06 19:57:36 <dub>	USD$7m volume
Mar 06 19:59:10 <Bowjob>	capitulation
Mar 06 19:59:29 <dub>	this is not france
Mar 06 19:59:41 <dub>	this is BITCOIIIIIN
Mar 06 19:59:55 <blu3gr1ffon>	parlay!
Mar 06 20:00:03 <Bowjob>	RIP guys, see you at single digits
Mar 06 20:00:24 <blu3gr1ffon>	to change!
Mar 06 20:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	abnd now the mpoe bot can't quote anymore because the pricefeed finally died.
Mar 06 20:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	somebody needs to make a motherfucking exchange.
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Mar 06 20:01:47 <jurov>	it doesn't use bitcoincharts?
Mar 06 20:01:48 <dub>	nah, just use one from magic teh gathering, It'll do
Mar 06 20:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	jurov mpioe ? yes.
Mar 06 20:02:02 <Bowjob>	i wanna ignore bitcoin
Mar 06 20:02:05 <Bowjob>	like for a mont
Mar 06 20:02:09 <Bowjob>	its hard
Mar 06 20:02:10 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 20:02:22 <assbot>	 want some help?
Mar 06 20:02:50 <mod6>	ahh 34!
Mar 06 20:02:56 <jurov>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 06 20:03:05 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 20:03:11 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 20:03:11 <Bowjob>	yeap, back to where we started
Mar 06 20:03:12 <gribble>	217.923764 seconds
Mar 06 20:03:19 <assbot>	It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
Mar 06 20:03:21 <mod6>	ups and downs.
Mar 06 20:03:22 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 20:03:22 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 06 20:03:24 <gribble>	185.819061 seconds
Mar 06 20:03:27 <jurov>	assbot, you better watch ur own stuff
Mar 06 20:04:05 <assbot>	 Whitehouse does not know S.MPOE.
Mar 06 20:04:20 <error4733>	omg
Mar 06 20:04:20 <jurov>	live.coinbr.com does. shame on you
Mar 06 20:04:51 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 06 20:04:57 <gribble>	1 BTC = 34.40000 U.S. dollars = 26.3945369 Euros
Mar 06 20:05:01 <Namworld>	what happened to options?
Mar 06 20:05:11 <mod6>	(17:04) <@assbot>  Whitehouse does not know S.MPOE. << O.O ?! LOL
Mar 06 20:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 06 20:05:26 <jurov>	Namworld, 1. whale dumped them
Mar 06 20:05:41 <jurov>	2. mpoe bot doesn't know what the price is
Mar 06 20:05:48 <jurov>	due to general breakage
Mar 06 20:06:29 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 20:06:35 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 06 20:06:39 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 06 20:06:50 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 06 20:07:11 <kakobrekla>	facepalm
Mar 06 20:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	lag to retrieving lag : 500 seconds
Mar 06 20:07:23 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 20:07:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.42000, Best ask: 35.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.07800, Last trade: 35.42000, 24 hour volume: 162587.00601570, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.31335
Mar 06 20:07:37 <Bowjob>	well fuck
Mar 06 20:07:42 <Bowjob>	ill bury my coins
Mar 06 20:07:44 <Bowjob>	be right
Mar 06 20:07:48 <kakobrekla>	33.something on stamp
Mar 06 20:07:48 <Bowjob>	back
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Mar 06 20:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.91703169 = 917.0317 BTC [+]
Mar 06 20:10:38 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 06 20:10:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.87188, Best ask: 35.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12812, Last trade: 35.00000, 24 hour volume: 163347.55998439, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.27533
Mar 06 20:10:41 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 20:10:46 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 06 20:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18440754 = 184.4075 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:11:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20415297 = 204.153 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22560969 = 225.6097 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	a ok we be back
Mar 06 20:11:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.24880864 = 248.8086 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.2932762 = 293.2762 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:11:29 <mircea_popescu>	crazy shit, 43.8 vwap
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Mar 06 20:11:58 <Bugpowder>	Got filled. Now bounce dammit!
Mar 06 20:12:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 82 @ 0.06075508 = 4.9819 BTC [+]
Mar 06 20:12:14 <kakobrekla>	where at
Mar 06 20:13:14 <Bugpowder>	36.33 and maybe 35, don't remember. Had a 33.33 too but not hit yet
Mar 06 20:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 255 @ 0.06075508 = 15.4925 BTC [+]
Mar 06 20:13:38 <mircea_popescu>	p31 selling srsly ?
Mar 06 20:13:58 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 20:14:03 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 06 20:14:49 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 20:14:55 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 06 20:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxfag
Mar 06 20:15:08 <gribble>	Error: "goxfag" is not a valid command.
Mar 06 20:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	orly.
Mar 06 20:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	like the other is.
Mar 06 20:15:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00899 BTC [+]
Mar 06 20:15:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 19 @ 0.009 = 0.171 BTC [+]
Mar 06 20:15:56 <jurov>	gribble chokes on something in https://mtgox.com/api/1/generic/order/lag
Mar 06 20:16:14 <AndroUser512>	Whoa why is btc so low?
Mar 06 20:16:28 <mircea_popescu>	AndroUser512 because white house hacked mpex
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Mar 06 20:16:49 <AndroUser512>	Nah
Mar 06 20:16:52 <assbot>	 [MPEX] [WHITEHOUSE] 1 @ 0.1337 [+]
Mar 06 20:17:07 <jurov>	!ticker m whitehouse
Mar 06 20:17:10 <Bugpowder>	Yesss
Mar 06 20:17:29 <assbot>	I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
Mar 06 20:17:57 <Bugpowder>	Holy shit!  Ingot filled at 33.35
Mar 06 20:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	10k ?
Mar 06 20:18:23 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 20:18:24 <gribble>	24.677975 seconds
Mar 06 20:18:24 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 06 20:18:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.16249, Best ask: 37.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.83751, Last trade: 37.00000, 24 hour volume: 167512.14667412, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.08314
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Mar 06 20:18:43 <Bugpowder>	33.335 actually
Mar 06 20:18:47 <Bugpowder>	I am
Mar 06 20:18:51 <Bugpowder>	In the zone
Mar 06 20:19:47 <jurov>	ineresting, bitcoinity thinks lag is 18s and price going up to 38
Mar 06 20:20:07 <kakobrekla>	37 on stamp
Mar 06 20:20:14 <kakobrekla>	from 33
Mar 06 20:20:18 <kakobrekla>	first rebounce
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Mar 06 20:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18362231 = 183.6223 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20334305 = 203.3431 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22478093 = 224.7809 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.24796781 = 247.9678 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29181519 = 291.8152 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:21:15 <AndroUser512>	But for real did something notable happen or is this a good ole correction? Im mobile n cant research atm
Mar 06 20:21:19 <kakobrekla>	40 at stamp
Mar 06 20:21:28 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 06 20:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	AndroUser512 nothing really happened.
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Mar 06 20:21:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.14195, Best ask: 39.47423, Bid-ask spread: 2.33228, Last trade: 39.47423, 24 hour volume: 168473.22517826, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.05309
Mar 06 20:21:34 <AndroUser512>	Thx
Mar 06 20:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.92096486 = 920.9649 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 20:22:35 <jurov>	AndroUser512 Maybe something behind scenes with coinlab or so.
Mar 06 20:22:35 <Chaang-Noi>	bulls on parade!
Mar 06 20:22:58 <kakobrekla>	42 on stamp hehe
Mar 06 20:23:03 <Chaang-Noi>	sp gpx dead?
Mar 06 20:24:05 <Chaang-Noi>	btc-e is higher than gox? oh lol
Mar 06 20:27:05 <Chaang-Noi>	gox really does seem dead?
Mar 06 20:27:08 <Chaang-Noi>	;;gox lag
Mar 06 20:27:08 <gribble>	Error: "gox" is not a valid command.
Mar 06 20:27:10 <dub>	yeah it is
Mar 06 20:27:12 <Chaang-Noi>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 20:27:14 <gribble>	288.353468 seconds
Mar 06 20:27:24 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 06 20:27:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.47800, Best ask: 39.87296, Bid-ask spread: 0.39496, Last trade: 39.87296, 24 hour volume: 164990.11107081, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.09008
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Mar 06 20:29:24 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4YrGaR8E4
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Mar 06 20:31:10 <Chaang-Noi>	okay we need to really start a collection fuind for mt gox to get them new hardware...
Mar 06 20:31:32 <kakobrekla>	like any hw can fix that.
Mar 06 20:31:55 <Chaang-Noi>	what does the nyse have?
Mar 06 20:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla 3-4k btc didn't help the forum
Mar 06 20:32:13 <Chaang-Noi>	also is it not a hardware issue? where they hacked?
Mar 06 20:32:14 <kakobrekla>	its a sw issue
Mar 06 20:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	if you can't get a forum to run stable out of > 100k usd, mtgox is outside of what the world can affoerd
Mar 06 20:32:17 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
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Mar 06 20:32:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder if theymos just kept/spent the fourm money, his plan of fractional reserves i was lik ewtf...
Mar 06 20:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.92093144 = 920.9314 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	his what ?
Mar 06 20:33:02 <kakobrekla>	he invested in bitcoinica or asic
Mar 06 20:33:04 <kakobrekla>	im sure
Mar 06 20:33:12 <mod6>	lol bitcoinica
Mar 06 20:33:23 <Chaang-Noi>	he was going to let people hold some of the funds but let them spend them...
Mar 06 20:33:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i was thinking yeah, he is doing that so he can, its retarded
Mar 06 20:33:37 <dub>	he's best buddies with interscamgo and nefario
Mar 06 20:33:45 <dub>	so its probably invested there
Mar 06 20:33:52 <Chaang-Noi>	he is no longer friends with nefario lol
Mar 06 20:34:02 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos holds glbse money
Mar 06 20:34:05 <Chaang-Noi>	im pretty sure...
Mar 06 20:34:14 <dub>	be great if he could refund me
Mar 06 20:34:23 <Chaang-Noi>	he was just saying how if neferio lost his keys theymos cant release the money
Mar 06 20:34:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00072486 = 7.7198 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:34:33 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos, lol...
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Mar 06 20:35:14 <dub>	;;ticker
Mar 06 20:35:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.91161, Best ask: 38.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08839, Last trade: 38.00000, 24 hour volume: 166111.09431322, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.05643
Mar 06 20:35:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.14910824 = 149.1082 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:35:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.16554201 = 165.542 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18359431 = 183.5943 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20331669 = 203.3167 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:35:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22475653 = 224.7565 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:35:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.24794567 = 247.9457 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29181519 = 291.8152 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:37:14 <Pasko_>	;;goxlag
Mar 06 20:37:17 <gribble>	356.354255 seconds
Mar 06 20:37:46 <joallard>	bluh
Mar 06 20:37:50 <Namworld>	Seriously...
Mar 06 20:37:54 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
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Mar 06 20:38:07 <Chaang-Noi>	gox seems dead... like dead dead
Mar 06 20:38:10 <Namworld>	I'm freakin exhausted by this freakin never fixed lag issues.
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Mar 06 20:38:25 <Namworld>	It just keeps happening again and again and again
Mar 06 20:38:25 <mod6>	well, there are 69,000 people hitting refresh on gox
Mar 06 20:38:26 <mod6>	so...
Mar 06 20:38:52 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah im doing f5 over and over about as fast as i cant type   :)
Mar 06 20:39:10 <Namworld>	Should hardly be an issue with a proper setup.
Mar 06 20:39:17 <Chaang-Noi>	agree
Mar 06 20:39:27 <Namworld>	With on demand nodes filling in for demand.
Mar 06 20:39:27 <Chaang-Noi>	oh well coinlab will take over anyway
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Mar 06 20:39:37 <Namworld>	Elastic computing...
Mar 06 20:40:40 <jurov>	even reddit noticed: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19szhx/mpexco_is_redirecting_to_whitehousegov/
Mar 06 20:41:25 <pigeons>	cheap PR
Mar 06 20:41:57 <jurov>	yea, but nobody was around to explain them what happened for 2 hours
Mar 06 20:42:10 <jurov>	that's abput their attn span
Mar 06 20:42:16 <jurov>	*about
Mar 06 20:42:22 <dub>	wait noagendamarket is eskimobob?
Mar 06 20:42:28 <jcpham>	hahahha
Mar 06 20:42:54 <Chaang-Noi>	was mpex hacked?
Mar 06 20:43:00 <pigeons>	he's not but that would be good
Mar 06 20:43:06 <Namworld>	nope, was not
Mar 06 20:43:12 <jurov>	Chaang-Noi, no it was just bought by coinbr
Mar 06 20:43:23 <Namworld>	lol jurov... right...
Mar 06 20:43:24 <Chaang-Noi>	what?
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Mar 06 20:43:26 <pigeons>	us mpex customers now need to use coinlab
Mar 06 20:43:28 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 06 20:43:39 <Namworld>	Chaang: being DDoS'ed
Mar 06 20:43:46 <Chaang-Noi>	cant take this trolling before coffee:)
Mar 06 20:43:48 <jurov>	Chaang-Noi read my comment on reddit
Mar 06 20:43:51 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh okay thanks
Mar 06 20:43:51 <Namworld>	so mpex.co now redirects to whitehouse.gov
Mar 06 20:43:53 <jurov>	it's tldr
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Mar 06 20:44:07 <Namworld>	you can access using mpex.coinbr.com for now
Mar 06 20:44:20 <Namworld>	which proxies the backend
Mar 06 20:44:38 <dub>	jurov: how about my comment
Mar 06 20:44:38 <Namworld>	only the mpex.co frontend is being DDoS'ed
Mar 06 20:44:45 <Namworld>	I think
Mar 06 20:44:54 *	BitHub protects the backend at all costs
Mar 06 20:44:54 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol, they redirected the attack to the whitehouse? is that a good idea? :)
Mar 06 20:45:18 <dub>	its an idea
Mar 06 20:45:30 <Chaang-Noi>	yes it is:)
Mar 06 20:45:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.14908358 = 149.0836 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.16551813 = 165.5181 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:45:50 <dub>	we have had no word of a drone strike to date
Mar 06 20:45:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.18357148 = 183.5715 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:45:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20329519 = 203.2952 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22473663 = 224.7366 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:46:01 <jurov>	Namworld if this causes to overstep my bitvps bandwidth, or causes bitvps to be included in ddos outright
Mar 06 20:46:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 18 @ 0.24792761 = 4.4627 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:46:08 <jurov>	what will you do?
Mar 06 20:46:36 <dub>	eww coinbr is on bitvps?
Mar 06 20:46:42 <jurov>	jeeez
Mar 06 20:46:53 *	mircea_popescu shoots pigeons with a rusty fork
Mar 06 20:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.9209042 = 920.9042 BTC [-]
Mar 06 20:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi what can it hurt ? ddoser gets to be first drone victim ?
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Mar 06 20:48:11 <Namworld>	i would be surprised, jurov
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Mar 06 20:48:27 <jurov>	lmao
Mar 06 20:48:32 <Chaang-Noi>	mp, they might think you are part of the attack
Mar 06 20:48:51 <Chaang-Noi>	i know how americans with drones think....
Mar 06 20:49:02 <jcpham>	easy to explain
Mar 06 20:49:11 <jcpham>	just say you meant whitehouse.com
Mar 06 20:49:11 <Chaang-Noi>	not that anything will come of it but still
Mar 06 20:49:13 <jcpham>	total typo
Mar 06 20:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	i thought the sec was watching this chan
Mar 06 20:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	what, they lack reading comprehension ?
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Mar 06 20:49:36 <Chaang-Noi>	who told you sec was here?
Mar 06 20:49:43 <Chaang-Noi>	and why would they be here?
Mar 06 20:50:01 <Chaang-Noi>	fbi/dea maybe but sec? lol
Mar 06 20:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	nefario.
Mar 06 20:52:20 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 20:52:23 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm, i highly doubt they can get decent evidance from this chan
Mar 06 20:52:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.00000, Best ask: 41.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.92000, Last trade: 41.00000, 24 hour volume: 167242.60774519, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.02128
Mar 06 20:52:28 <Bowjob>	$41 now wtf
Mar 06 20:52:29 <Bowjob>	 is going on\
Mar 06 20:52:34 <dub>	bitcoin
Mar 06 20:52:46 <Chaang-Noi>	in a stong bull market corrects are sharp and fast bowjob
Mar 06 20:53:03 <Bowjob>	I just sait it out
Mar 06 20:53:05 <Bowjob>	*sat
Mar 06 20:53:10 <jurov>	in case of drone strike i'm using human shield
Mar 06 20:53:12 <Bowjob>	none of this bullshit panic buy and sell
Mar 06 20:53:15 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, i thought we were going to buy back in at $36?
Mar 06 20:53:23 <jurov>	they have built here insanely dense residential blocks , like 10k people per square kilometer
Mar 06 20:53:26 <Bowjob>	I got burned 800 dollars
Mar 06 20:53:27 <Bowjob>	fuck that
Mar 06 20:53:30 <jurov>	and i'm sitting inthe middle
Mar 06 20:53:32 <Bowjob>	no more panic sell
Mar 06 20:53:37 <Bowjob>	and panic buy
Mar 06 20:53:38 <Chaang-Noi>	800 dollars? its just fiat anyway...
Mar 06 20:53:45 <dub>	jurov: ask pakistan how that worked out
Mar 06 20:53:47 <Bowjob>	well it was unrealized gain
Mar 06 20:53:50 <Bowjob>	so its all good
Mar 06 20:53:50 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 20:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	dub has a point.
Mar 06 20:54:16 <Bowjob>	man
Mar 06 20:54:21 <Bowjob>	some of my classmates have babies now
Mar 06 20:54:22 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 06 20:54:35 <Bowjob>	i've known them since second grade.. i still remember those days
Mar 06 20:54:38 <Bowjob>	.. wtf time
Mar 06 20:54:39 <Chaang-Noi>	you dont know how sex works?
Mar 06 20:54:40 <Bowjob>	stahp
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Mar 06 20:55:05 <Bowjob>	no, just saying. if i could wake up as a third grader, i could blend in
Mar 06 20:55:06 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 20:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/global-slavery-by-the-numbers/?smid=tw-nytimesbits&seid=auto
Mar 06 20:55:22 <Bowjob>	just with 12 extra years of exp
Mar 06 20:55:30 <Chaang-Noi>	would be odd trying to date a 3rd grader however...
Mar 06 20:55:46 <jurov>	at least such casualties need obama's signature. mircea i doubt you have 30 girls around you in the mansion at all times
Mar 06 20:55:48 <mircea_popescu>	While slavery is illegal across the globe, the SumAll Foundation noted, there are 27 million slaves worldwide, more than in 1860, when there were 25 million.
Mar 06 20:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	this is like... lincoln won the war on slavery.
Mar 06 20:56:11 <pigeons>	praise be upon him
Mar 06 20:56:15 <Chaang-Noi>	 Sexual slavery brings the slave’s owner $18,000 over the slave’s working life in Thailand      (this used to be a big problem, they used to go around in van and steal kids)
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Mar 06 20:56:59 <Bowjob>	it woulda nice to panic sell for a bit
Mar 06 20:57:02 <Bowjob>	then bought back
Mar 06 20:57:02 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 20:57:14 <Bowjob>	mammon has a huge grip on us
Mar 06 20:57:16 <Bowjob>	its delicious
Mar 06 20:57:30 <Bowjob>	we are all going burn in hell for it. might as well enjoy life
Mar 06 20:57:31 <jurov>	third grader, ic
Mar 06 20:57:31 <Bowjob>	hehe
Mar 06 20:59:02 <mircea_popescu>	!!Please note!! that the Bitcoin value is changing in daily basis! Therefore the price might also change if the invoice is not paid right away!
Mar 06 20:59:02 <mircea_popescu>	Reference Number: 11714
Mar 06 20:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	Error getting json fileThe current exchange rate we accept for Bitcoin:
Mar 06 20:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	1 BTC = -0.3 USD
Mar 06 20:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	what the fucking fuck.
Mar 06 20:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	100 btc for 30 bux ? rly ?!
Mar 06 20:59:25 <Chaang-Noi>	where?
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Mar 06 20:59:42 <grubles>	i, too, have heard the sec watches this chan
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Mar 06 20:59:56 <Bowjob>	where
Mar 06 20:59:58 <Bowjob>	ill buy it
Mar 06 20:59:58 <grubles>	<_< >_>
Mar 06 21:00:13 <pigeons>	I heard they are wondering about goat
Mar 06 21:00:24 <Chaang-Noi>	they have been trying to talk to me
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Mar 06 21:00:35 <pigeons>	they want some insured pass through
Mar 06 21:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	some dumbass "orangesite" hoster
Mar 06 21:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	wants to charge me 100 btc for 30 bux
Mar 06 21:01:09 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, that insured ppt cost me pigeons, that was some fail
Mar 06 21:01:19 <Chaang-Noi>	did you buy into that?
Mar 06 21:01:37 <pigeons>	no
Mar 06 21:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.btcwebhost.com/cart.php?a=view
Mar 06 21:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	emote server or file not found
Mar 06 21:02:38 <Chaang-Noi>	well i paid it back quickly
Mar 06 21:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	dude bitcoin hiosting is a joke.
Mar 06 21:03:09 <dub>	namecheap takes btc nao
Mar 06 21:03:36 <dub>	and does hosting in addition to names
Mar 06 21:03:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i heart namecheap cant wait to pay next bill
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Mar 06 21:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	dub i been hosting with nc since 2001 i think
Mar 06 21:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	but i won't host there
Mar 06 21:04:05 <Chaang-Noi>	action at gox now, a bit, near 42
Mar 06 21:04:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.91731637 = 917.3164 BTC [-]
Mar 06 21:04:35 <Guest4040>	yeah, trying to get my sells in
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Mar 06 21:04:58 <kakobrekla>	45 on stamp
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Mar 06 21:05:43 <Chaang-Noi>	glad we got that correction out of the way
Mar 06 21:05:56 <Bowjob_>	that was merely a bear trap
Mar 06 21:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	 #  You did not enter your first name  #  You did not enter your last name  #  You did not enter your email address  #  You did not enter your address (line 1)  #  You did not enter your city  #  You did not enter your state  #  You did not enter your postcode  #  You did not enter your phone number  #  You are required to enter a security answer  #  You did not enter a password  #  Date of Birth is required  #
Mar 06 21:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	dude srlsy ?!
Mar 06 21:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin hosting, date of birth is required ?
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Mar 06 21:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	what is WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE
Mar 06 21:06:28 <Bugpowdrrr>	sweeeet.
Mar 06 21:06:42 <jurov>	you forgot gender and boob size
Mar 06 21:07:50 <[\\\]>	https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/309345069461303296
Mar 06 21:07:55 <[\\\]>	didn't pirate say the same thing?
Mar 06 21:08:05 <jcpham>	pretty sure he did
Mar 06 21:08:15 <jcpham>	maybe i've heard gmaxwell say it too
Mar 06 21:08:28 <jcpham>	you think they are all the same person [\\\]
Mar 06 21:08:33 <[\\\]>	duh!
Mar 06 21:08:39 <jcpham>	man what a trip
Mar 06 21:09:00 <Bugpowdrrr>	43.15
Mar 06 21:09:06 <dub>	gavin gonna jump ship
Mar 06 21:09:10 <Bugpowdrrr>	Got out on the bouuuuunce
Mar 06 21:09:37 <Chaang-Noi>	lol war in the dev leadership we dont know about?
Mar 06 21:09:59 <dub>	sould you want to work with those toolbags?
Mar 06 21:10:03 <dub>	would*
Mar 06 21:10:29 <smickles>	so ;;ticker
Mar 06 21:10:36 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 06 21:10:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.50001, Best ask: 41.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39999, Last trade: 41.90000, 24 hour volume: 169395.11137261, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.01063
Mar 06 21:10:47 <Bowjob_>	what dev war lol
Mar 06 21:10:50 <Bowjob_>	;;ticker
Mar 06 21:10:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.50001, Best ask: 41.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39999, Last trade: 41.90000, 24 hour volume: 169388.95028261, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.01069
Mar 06 21:11:18 <Bugpowdrrr>	probably will fade back down from here...
Mar 06 21:11:27 <Chaang-Noi>	gavin just seemed like grumbelinz, but you know he has coins.. he gots to be a rich guy by now
Mar 06 21:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	how do you know he got coins ?
Mar 06 21:12:26 <[\\\]>	because satoshi
Mar 06 21:12:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know he has coins, but i highly suspect
Mar 06 21:12:56 <Bowjob_>	well he probably has coins since he gave away a fuckton
Mar 06 21:12:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21961 @ 0.00075 = 16.4708 BTC [+]
Mar 06 21:13:02 <Bowjob_>	to the faucet
Mar 06 21:13:11 <Bowjob_>	its a good bet to assume he has tons of it
Mar 06 21:13:13 <Chaang-Noi>	also if he shorted on bitcoinica, lol
Mar 06 21:13:16 <smickles>	;;calc 31/1.06498
Mar 06 21:13:16 <gribble>	29.1085278597
Mar 06 21:13:36 <smickles>	mpex options so imba
Mar 06 21:13:52 <Bugpowdrrr>	 !ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 06 21:14:02 <Bugpowdrrr>	someone bought 7M shares
Mar 06 21:14:05 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 06 21:14:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.59217, Best ask: 41.59320, Bid-ask spread: 0.00103, Last trade: 43.90000, 24 hour volume: 169891.04250013, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.01660
Mar 06 21:14:09 <Bowjob_>	http://s24.postimage.org/onppwxshx/35808271.jpg
Mar 06 21:14:22 <Bugpowdrrr>	And MPOE is probably down 5k right now.
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Mar 06 21:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdrrr it sold like 70k of calls you know ?
Mar 06 21:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	or 80k even
Mar 06 21:22:20 <mod6>	yeah, 89`125 CALL
Mar 06 21:23:09 <mod6>	13`587 PUT
Mar 06 21:23:42 <Namworld>	Someone was selling calls?
Mar 06 21:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	something like 14k iirc
Mar 06 21:24:04 <Namworld>	Oh... right... price is low... can't be purchases
Mar 06 21:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld yes they were selling calls bought yest
Mar 06 21:26:09 <[\\\]>	I see we had a 30% swing in the price today
Mar 06 21:26:37 <[\\\]>	I hope people realize just how shallow the kiddie pool still is
Mar 06 21:26:40 <Bugpowdrrr>	Customers made money on the calls right?
Mar 06 21:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Mar 06 21:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	maybe on the lowo nes,
Mar 06 21:28:17 <Namworld>	Apparently not, price is popping right back up.
Mar 06 21:28:46 <Bugpowdrrr>	the short put covering was pretty big too thoguh
Mar 06 21:28:50 <Bugpowdrrr>	hmm
Mar 06 21:28:51 <Bugpowdrrr>	ok
Mar 06 21:29:05 <mircea_popescu>	the short put guy made like .2-3 per contract
Mar 06 21:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	i wouyld guess
Mar 06 21:29:09 <Bugpowdrrr>	Wasn't watching.  Eat dinner.  Was a good day for me :)
Mar 06 21:29:42 <Bugpowdrrr>	Now if we blast thru 50, I will be seriously impressed.
Mar 06 21:29:43 <dub>	network is still pretty hosed
Mar 06 21:30:08 <Bugpowdrrr>	I made a few transfers today, no problem at all
Mar 06 21:30:20 <dub>	currently 2.5k unconfirmed
Mar 06 21:31:27 <dub>	still some scope for confidence trashing news hits
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Mar 06 21:32:03 <dub>	gox is still lagged by 8 minutes
Mar 06 21:32:35 <dub>	mpex still hacked by the gubbermint
Mar 06 21:33:10 <dub>	$2 still imminent
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Mar 06 21:34:46 <Bowjob_>	;;ticker
Mar 06 21:34:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.00000, Best ask: 43.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 43.00000, 24 hour volume: 167804.82008240, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.03618
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Mar 06 21:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1569 @ 0.0046 = 7.2174 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 21:39:05 <Bugpowdrrr>	bitcoinity is really holding up the best in these tough conditions
Mar 06 21:39:23 <Chaang-Noi>	thats where im at, i tipped him yesterday
Mar 06 21:39:34 <Bugpowdrrr>	yah I should tip too
Mar 06 21:39:42 <Bugpowdrrr>	first time I saw the site was today
Mar 06 21:39:48 <Chaang-Noi>	frolm the site whiskey fund: 1EWjHKPYGAJ3v5LnDyBo3Fn1PFsazBstqk |
Mar 06 21:39:51 <Bugpowdrrr>	was very helpful.
Mar 06 21:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	what does it do ?
Mar 06 21:40:10 <Chaang-Noi>	i sent .1337 should buy him a beer or two
Mar 06 21:40:13 <Chaang-Noi>	its live charts mp
Mar 06 21:40:19 <Chaang-Noi>	charts that work
Mar 06 21:40:33 <dub>	its been down for like a year though right?
Mar 06 21:40:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i honestly dont know
Mar 06 21:41:06 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 49
Mar 06 21:41:22 <gribble>	There are currently 18888.341 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 892422.114396 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds
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Mar 06 21:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	ah
Mar 06 21:43:02 <mircea_popescu>	cool, nice to have.
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Mar 06 21:46:21 <Bugpowdrrr>	and now its down?!?
Mar 06 21:46:35 <Bugpowdrrr>	nah just lagged
Mar 06 21:47:15 <Bugpowdrrr>	expecting retrace to 40 here
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Mar 06 21:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	yeah lagged again
Mar 06 21:52:56 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
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Mar 06 21:53:03 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 06 21:53:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.60000, Best ask: 43.01009, Bid-ask spread: 0.41009, Last trade: 43.02000, 24 hour volume: 168407.58530743, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.04250
Mar 06 21:53:18 <assbot>	I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
Mar 06 21:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	^OIX: "7d": {"avg": "4711973083","min": "3024713516","max": "4855255527","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.56240676575E+12","cnt": ""}
Mar 06 21:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like the new assbot
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Mar 06 22:01:00 <Chaang-Noi>	lol assbot :)
Mar 06 22:01:08 <Chaang-Noi>	!goat
Mar 06 22:02:07 <Chaang-Noi>	45
Mar 06 22:02:43 <Bugpowdrrr>	strong
Mar 06 22:02:45 <Bugpowdrrr>	impressive
Mar 06 22:02:52 <Chaang-Noi>	mp how much is a slave in romania, i feel too rich/lazy to do my work...
Mar 06 22:02:53 <Bugpowdrrr>	Taking the Kruggerand photo
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Mar 06 22:07:35 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno that they have those here.
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Mar 06 22:09:35 <mod6>	(17:16) <@assbot>  [MPEX] [WHITEHOUSE] 1 @ 0.1337 [+]
Mar 06 22:09:40 <mod6>	^^^ lol @ that
Mar 06 22:09:54 <mod6>	and yeah +1 on "WE NEED A MOTHERFUCKING EXCHANGE"
Mar 06 22:10:10 <mod6>	we need like 3 that are all independant of eachother
Mar 06 22:10:32 <mod6>	and good ones that don't fucking break when a guy wants to sell a few, or more.
Mar 06 22:11:23 <mod6>	and then with MPEx serving up options and futures, we'll have a nice little btc finance ecosystem
Mar 06 22:11:36 <mod6>	but all of this reliance on gox is for the birds.
Mar 06 22:12:37 <dub>	I've been waiting a long time for someone to simply dos gox for a few weeks
Mar 06 22:12:53 <dub>	completely kill bitcoin
Mar 06 22:13:27 <Bugpowdrrr>	http://i.imgur.com/iLyZxUZ.jpg
Mar 06 22:14:06 <pgp>	hopefully coinlab will be able to "improve" the mtgox experience...
Mar 06 22:14:51 <pgp>	smaller exchanges are starting to get some traction, though...
Mar 06 22:15:08 <pgp>	bitfloor and bitstamp do a decent job of it...
Mar 06 22:15:19 <Chaang-Noi>	36 again. fuck me
Mar 06 22:15:43 <Bugpowdrrr>	told ya
Mar 06 22:16:00 <Bugpowdrrr>	that was more violent than expected though
Mar 06 22:16:23 <Namworld>	Wait, back down to 36?
Mar 06 22:16:42 <dub>	someone needs to tell gox
Mar 06 22:16:43 <doctor_pullfingr>	bid still at 43
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Mar 06 22:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 06 22:17:19 <gribble>	Time since last block: 40 minutes and 10 seconds
Mar 06 22:17:22 <Bugpowdrrr>	eep  1740.26	2 minutes ago	36.000
Mar 06 22:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	holy hell
Mar 06 22:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	what is this about asics and whatnot ?
Mar 06 22:17:32 <mod6>	(19:12) < dub> I've been waiting a long time for someone to simply dos gox for a few weeks << exactly.
Mar 06 22:18:18 <Bugpowdrrr>	;;tslb
Mar 06 22:18:21 <gribble>	Time since last block: 41 seconds
Mar 06 22:18:33 <Namworld>	;;bids 35
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Mar 06 22:18:43 <gribble>	There are currently 2015.0753 bitcoins demanded at or over 35.0 USD, worth 70734.225723 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0052 seconds
Mar 06 22:19:14 <Bugpowdrrr>	clark moody is fd up
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Mar 06 22:20:41 <dub>	bitcoincharts feed has been dead for an hour
Mar 06 22:20:58 <Namworld>	[22:19] <@gribble> There are currently 2.189923 bitcoins demanded at or over 36.0 USD, worth 82.4772267629 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.4769
Mar 06 22:20:58 <Namworld>	[22:19] <@gribble> There are currently 181.27547 bitcoins offered at or under 42.0 USD, worth 7608.18637359 USD in total. | Data vintage: 35.9463 seconds
Mar 06 22:21:21 <Namworld>	I just checked on OTC. These spreads are ridiculous
Mar 06 22:21:35 <dub>	I wouldnt trust that
Mar 06 22:21:49 <dub>	there is basically no way of knowing what the price is
Mar 06 22:21:53 <Namworld>	Maybe delayed... but clarkmoody shows the same
Mar 06 22:21:58 <Bugpowdrrr>	clarkmoody is dead
Mar 06 22:22:02 <Namworld>	It looks like the spread is gone
Mar 06 22:22:05 <mod6>	breathe
Mar 06 22:22:07 <Bugpowdrrr>	bitcoinity
Mar 06 22:22:15 <Namworld>	the bids/asks I mean
Mar 06 22:22:20 <dub>	the gox trade page has 0.04 spread
Mar 06 22:22:23 <Bugpowdrrr>	ah
Mar 06 22:22:24 <Bugpowdrrr>	lol
Mar 06 22:22:29 <Chaang-Noi>	back to 42 :)
Mar 06 22:22:45 <Chaang-Noi>	i think people just cant make orders at gox, so no vol so crazy movements
Mar 06 22:22:52 <Namworld>	dub: so does clarkmoody says, 0.04 spread
Mar 06 22:22:54 <Bugpowdrrr>	.04 spread on the orders that were placed 10 minutes ago.  What about the population that is in the queue ahead of you?
Mar 06 22:23:42 <dub>	its pretty lulzy
Mar 06 22:24:08 <dub>	the entire bitcoin economy is a casino at this point
Mar 06 22:24:29 <dub>	price is some random value between 33 and 49
Mar 06 22:24:56 <Namworld>	and it's killing commerce
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Mar 06 22:25:14 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah... it will stabilize around $1000 in a few years...
Mar 06 22:25:17 <Namworld>	These swings will undo all the adoption by serious businesses at this rate.
Mar 06 22:25:25 <dub>	hopefully
Mar 06 22:25:39 <dub>	as I keep saying, inb4 $2
Mar 06 22:26:05 <mod6>	mtgox must go away after this
Mar 06 22:26:17 <dub>	its been worse before
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Mar 06 22:26:45 <dub>	I dunno if its still there but at one point a 20k btc trade halted teh engine until mark woke up and confirmed it
Mar 06 22:26:45 <mod6>	yeah, but something better must be constructed, and then have peers that are the same in construction
Mar 06 22:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets
Mar 06 22:26:56 <dub>	as in, its a hard coded failsafe
Mar 06 22:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	that graph looks like it's had a heart attack
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Mar 06 22:27:17 <Namworld>	MtGox doesn't need to go. Just replace the hardware. It appears they are running on a Commodore 64 currently.
Mar 06 22:27:21 <Namworld>	Need an upgrade
Mar 06 22:27:26 <mod6>	lol
Mar 06 22:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	they're spending something like 10k a month on hardware.
Mar 06 22:27:33 <dub>	its not the hardware its teh retard driving it
Mar 06 22:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	which is you kniow... more than the market cap of all but a few bitcoin businesses.
Mar 06 22:28:14 <mod6>	thats insane
Mar 06 22:28:18 <mod6>	$10K USD?!
Mar 06 22:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	it's what they declare(d)
Mar 06 22:29:12 <mod6>	i guess maybe for the hosting... *shrug*, but its got to be rebuilt better
Mar 06 22:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	heh. mtgox jusrt stole .2 btc from me.
Mar 06 22:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno why i went ahead and used them as a pp for some obscure host
Mar 06 22:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	7 confirms, "There are not enough bitcoins on this address."
Mar 06 22:29:57 <mircea_popescu>	in spite of you know, having showed it "about to confirm" earlier.
Mar 06 22:30:04 <mircea_popescu>	when it had 5
Mar 06 22:31:26 <mod6>	:<
Mar 06 22:31:31 <Chaang-Noi>	lol 2013.. using gox!
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Mar 06 22:33:25 <Bowjob>	so what now
Mar 06 22:33:27 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 22:33:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.36000, Best ask: 41.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 41.89000, 24 hour volume: 181522.58600462, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.83448
Mar 06 22:35:47 <Bugpowdrrr>	take a nap
Mar 06 22:36:05 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah im going afk.. crazyu shit
Mar 06 22:37:29 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 22:37:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.31407, Best ask: 40.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.63593, Last trade: 40.95000, 24 hour volume: 181582.58134847, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.83060
Mar 06 22:37:34 <Bowjob>	can we go to 50 please
Mar 06 22:37:35 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 22:37:41 <Bugpowdrrr>	unlikely
Mar 06 22:38:07 <Bugpowdrrr>	America just needs to go to bed
Mar 06 22:38:15 <Bugpowdrrr>	and let gox recover
Mar 06 22:38:36 <Bowjob>	http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1054
Mar 06 22:38:38 <Bowjob>	I won this bet
Mar 06 22:39:04 <Bowjob>	I feel that I should get a bit more than 0.3 for winning the bet. sigh
Mar 06 22:39:21 <Bugpowdrrr>	hey, that's like 20 LTC!
Mar 06 22:39:49 <Bowjob>	200
Mar 06 22:39:52 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 06 22:40:02 <Bowjob>	well i got .83 now
Mar 06 22:40:07 <Bowjob>	it was 0,5 my bet
Mar 06 22:40:08 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 06 22:42:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i missed the crash of 2013!
Mar 06 22:42:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 49
Mar 06 22:43:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 06 22:43:07 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 224620 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1171 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 12 hours, 9 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4738813.84956 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.49241
Mar 06 22:43:08 <gribble>	There are currently 22518.834 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 1059107.62381 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds
Mar 06 22:43:12 <Bugpowdrrr>	ThickAsThieves: It won't be the last
Mar 06 22:43:44 <Bugpowdrrr>	We have not seen REAL fear yet
Mar 06 22:43:49 <ThickAsThieves>	hopefully they won't be any bigger
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Mar 06 22:44:12 <Bugpowdrrr>	Protip : when the price is up more than $10 in a day, sell some.
Mar 06 22:44:34 <Bugpowdrrr>	Set a bid at 33% below
Mar 06 22:44:36 <Bowjob>	yep sell some USD to buy BTC
Mar 06 22:44:37 <Bowjob>	!
Mar 06 22:44:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 9 @ 0.00549 = 0.0494 BTC [+]
Mar 06 22:53:29 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1594354#msg1594354
Mar 06 22:54:36 <dub>	pitty it didnt say 'so I whipped up assbot api integration'!
Mar 06 22:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 06 22:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	500 Internal Server Error
Mar 06 22:56:00 <mircea_popescu>	nginx/1.2.1
Mar 06 22:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	who was saying this bitcoinity thing is the best since sliced mpex ?
Mar 06 22:56:18 <dub>	heh apparently SA hacked mpex
Mar 06 22:56:18 <Bugpowdrrr>	oops
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Mar 06 22:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	dub haha
Mar 06 22:56:45 <mircea_popescu>	don't tell me they just owned themselves.
Mar 06 22:57:20 <dub>	no, this is just some aspie shutin wisdom from the forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1594343#msg1594343
Mar 06 22:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile txs sent 3 hours ago are still unincluded
Mar 06 22:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	dude people wanted bitcoin to be the new visa ?
Mar 06 22:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	lay down the pipe.
Mar 06 22:57:58 <dub>	yeah back up to 3k unconfirmed
Mar 06 22:58:32 <dub>	you need to beat s.deuce fee of .001 to play bitcoin now
Mar 06 22:58:36 <Bowjob>	increase th limit
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Mar 06 23:07:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.00549 = 0.0329 BTC [+]
Mar 06 23:08:49 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/4dhQMDS.png
Mar 06 23:08:54 <Bowjob>	just saying
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Mar 06 23:09:37 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 23:09:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.25430, Best ask: 41.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04570, Last trade: 41.25330, 24 hour volume: 180985.14101528, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.80335
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Mar 06 23:14:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.00999 = 0.999 BTC [+]
Mar 06 23:16:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0051 = 0.51 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 23:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4645 BTC [+]
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Mar 06 23:30:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 06 23:32:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1537 = 0.3074 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 23:36:32 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 06 23:36:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.80000, Best ask: 40.90102, Bid-ask spread: 0.10102, Last trade: 40.80000, 24 hour volume: 182448.07724014, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.76346
Mar 06 23:36:40 <Bowjob>	what a crash
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Mar 06 23:36:52 <Bowjob>	actually i cant complain lol
Mar 06 23:36:55 <Bowjob>	we need more good news
Mar 06 23:37:04 <Bowjob>	how about warren buffer dumping 1 bil to play with
Mar 06 23:37:08 <Bowjob>	buffet
Mar 06 23:37:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 608 @ 0.005 = 3.04 BTC [-]
Mar 06 23:37:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.005 = 0.035 BTC [-]
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Mar 06 23:45:18 <Bowjob>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oeu_EMPd038
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Mar 06 23:46:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0049 = 0.0392 BTC [-]
Mar 06 23:46:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0048 BTC [-]
Mar 06 23:46:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0044 = 0.22 BTC [-]
Mar 06 23:46:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0044 = 0.044 BTC [-]
Mar 06 23:46:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00261 BTC [-]
Mar 06 23:46:38 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/M3QffS5.jpg
Mar 06 23:46:56 <Namworld>	Nope
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Mar 06 23:47:10 <Namworld>	We're in the bulltrap/return to normal
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Mar 06 23:49:49 <Namworld>	I'm saying hello to 16-18 USD/BTC already
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Mar 06 23:51:00 <BitHub>	ballz out
Mar 06 23:51:30 <Bowjob>	wall street didn't play yet
Mar 06 23:51:34 <Bowjob>	def bear trap
Mar 06 23:52:05 <Namworld>	if we're at that part of the bubble, we didn't start going parabolic yet... and what we've seen so far is "slow growth"
Mar 06 23:52:30 <Namworld>	So we'd hit like 10 000 USD/BTC at the peak or something...
Mar 06 23:52:44 <Namworld>	Why would "wall street" play?
Mar 06 23:52:46 <BitHub>	i thought that was wall street the last few days?
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Mar 06 23:53:09 <BitHub>	n today
Mar 06 23:53:33 <BitHub>	i wonder how merchants went today that do pricing
Mar 06 23:54:45 <Namworld>	Seriously, why would the whole world suddenly adopt Bitcoins? It doesn't solve any of their problem nor is it convenient for their daily transactions.
Mar 06 23:55:07 <Namworld>	We reached the top of the speculative bubble with the near 50 USD/BTC today
Mar 06 23:55:14 <Namworld>	What I think.
Mar 06 23:57:38 <BitHub>	i dont think the whooooole world
Mar 06 23:57:42 <BitHub>	cash is still king
Mar 06 23:58:25 <BitHub>	but its very good replacement for credit cards
Mar 06 23:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0046 = 0.46 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 00:06:10 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 00:06:21 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 07 00:06:35 <Bowjob>	mt goxxxxxxxx
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Mar 07 00:14:50 <Chaang-Noi>	mtgox is dead dead... crazy
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Mar 07 00:15:38 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 00:15:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.39000, Best ask: 40.40002, Bid-ask spread: 0.01002, Last trade: 40.60000, 24 hour volume: 181729.26901555, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.70517
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Mar 07 00:19:15 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 00:19:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.80001, Best ask: 40.84934, Bid-ask spread: 0.04933, Last trade: 40.80000, 24 hour volume: 182163.30359383, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.69988
Mar 07 00:19:37 <Bowjob>	49.09, the high of 2013
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Mar 07 00:22:40 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Mar 07 00:23:00 <Namworld>	I haven't seen the orderbook looking bearish like that since forever.
Mar 07 00:23:34 <Chaang-Noi>	still we are over $40 we were 12 at the new year
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Mar 07 00:23:49 <Chaang-Noi>	that site wont load for me
Mar 07 00:24:06 <Chaang-Noi>	im damn pleased with anything stable over 30
Mar 07 00:24:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0046 = 0.92 BTC [-]
Mar 07 00:24:18 <Chaang-Noi>	but then i bought in at 3.5  :/
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Mar 07 00:34:32 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 00:34:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.75068, Best ask: 41.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24932, Last trade: 40.75068, 24 hour volume: 181704.41636332, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.68779
Mar 07 00:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.14351396 = 143.514 BTC [-]
Mar 07 00:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.1597016 = 159.7016 BTC [-]
Mar 07 00:41:58 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 00:41:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.93627, Best ask: 41.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06373, Last trade: 41.00000, 24 hour volume: 181664.32887886, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.68317
Mar 07 00:42:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.17755199 = 177.552 BTC [-]
Mar 07 00:42:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.19711386 = 197.1139 BTC [-]
Mar 07 00:42:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.21844012 = 218.4401 BTC [-]
Mar 07 00:47:03 <Bowjob>	My TX wont confirm
Mar 07 00:47:03 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 07 00:47:17 <Bowjob>	nvm it confirmed now. 2 hour wait
Mar 07 00:47:18 <Bowjob>	with tx
Mar 07 00:47:19 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 07 00:52:44 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 07 00:53:32 <Namworld>	I received one with 0 fees... it's just not getting included at all no matter how long I wait...
Mar 07 00:53:48 <Namworld>	stupid no fee
Mar 07 00:55:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-]
Mar 07 00:55:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [-]
Mar 07 00:55:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.20704 BTC [-]
Mar 07 00:56:44 <Bowjob>	should raise the min fee on dice
Mar 07 00:56:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+]
Mar 07 01:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-X-Au9HrmI&feature=youtu.be
Mar 07 01:02:22 <mircea_popescu>	check out about minute 3
Mar 07 01:02:33 <mircea_popescu>	keiser really likes bitcoin
Mar 07 01:03:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00074252 = 9.5785 BTC [-]
Mar 07 01:03:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00073731 = 1.2903 BTC [-]
Mar 07 01:04:10 <ThickAsThieves>	https://btct.co/security/CRYPTO-TRADE
Mar 07 01:04:37 <ThickAsThieves>	that's $160,000 USD for 20% of profits in IPO
Mar 07 01:04:52 <ThickAsThieves>	thems some big britches
Mar 07 01:10:13 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, this guy is following your PR advice http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,1125.msg7813.html#msg7813
Mar 07 01:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	4k btc ?
Mar 07 01:10:49 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Mar 07 01:11:02 <ThickAsThieves>	is what they want
Mar 07 01:11:49 <ThickAsThieves>	suatmm
Mar 07 01:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 01:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 07 01:12:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.50540, Best ask: 41.54691, Bid-ask spread: 0.04151, Last trade: 41.54691, 24 hour volume: 185495.99289508, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.64250
Mar 07 01:12:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 07 01:12:43 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 59 seconds
Mar 07 01:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00075 = 13.2375 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 01:22:02 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 01:22:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.96634, Best ask: 41.96636, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 41.96634, 24 hour volume: 185593.98262870, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.64002
Mar 07 01:30:00 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 01:30:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.10081, Best ask: 42.10082, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 42.10082, 24 hour volume: 185130.68959519, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.63475
Mar 07 01:32:52 <Bowjob>	we need satoshi to go back
Mar 07 01:32:56 <Bowjob>	and fix the blocksize limit
Mar 07 01:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	let people add tx fees.
Mar 07 01:43:12 <Bowjob>	just like the dude who sent 94 BTC as tx fee
Mar 07 01:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol tya
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Mar 07 01:46:33 <Chaang-Noi>	any word on gox?
Mar 07 01:46:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13424 @ 0.00075 = 10.068 BTC [+]
Mar 07 01:47:10 <Bowjob>	wheres that topic again
Mar 07 01:47:16 <Bowjob>	of the dude who sent 94 BTC as tx
Mar 07 01:50:19 <Namworld>	I want to see that one
Mar 07 01:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	bah bitcoincharts is crashed so bad
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Mar 07 02:07:40 <maximian>	who can think that BTC is ready for primetime with all these service failures
Mar 07 02:07:54 <maximian>	needs another year in the oven
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Mar 07 02:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	maximian indeed.
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Mar 07 02:16:25 <Chaang-Noi>	about gox...
Mar 07 02:16:26 <Chaang-Noi>	<neofutur> 02:08 <@MagicalTux> Blitzboom: we're working on some changes that will improve this a lot
Mar 07 02:16:26 <Chaang-Noi>	<neofutur> 02:08 < Blitzboom> ETA?
Mar 07 02:16:26 <Chaang-Noi>	<neofutur> 02:08 <@MagicalTux> we're pushing this urgently (but still after testing), so whithin next 24 hours
Mar 07 02:16:27 <Chaang-Noi>	<neofutur> probably this update is being pushed to prod
Mar 07 02:16:28 <Chaang-Noi>	<neofutur> and it will be back within hours
Mar 07 02:18:01 <saulimus>	improve what?
Mar 07 02:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	their 10 minute to half hour execution delay
Mar 07 02:21:54 <Chaang-Noi>	if you get a trade done in 30 mins seems you are lucky :/
Mar 07 02:22:17 <Chaang-Noi>	however now it is starting to flow a bit
Mar 07 02:22:23 <mircea_popescu>	ya, people went to bed
Mar 07 02:22:45 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i should too but its 2pm
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Mar 07 02:47:18 <Ukto>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.ASICMINER-PT <-- graphs are now on a 15 sec live feed. no more refreshing to see trades
Mar 07 02:48:10 <TradeFortress>	Ukto, does the orderbook refill too?
Mar 07 02:48:25 <Ukto>	it will soon
Mar 07 02:48:30 <Ukto>	alot easier now
Mar 07 02:48:31 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 02:48:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.08002, Best ask: 42.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.31998, Last trade: 42.40000, 24 hour volume: 177673.50153615, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.48382
Mar 07 02:48:36 <Ukto>	with the changes i setup tonight
Mar 07 02:48:42 <Ukto>	I was just taking a quick break from the big project
Mar 07 02:48:52 <Bowjob>	I call that.. the bear trap
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Mar 07 03:01:43 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 03:01:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.20000, Best ask: 42.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 42.20000, 24 hour volume: 177432.50058775, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.47390
Mar 07 03:04:39 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 07 03:04:39 <gribble>	441.561708 seconds
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Mar 07 03:10:03 <Enky>	440 sec lag? eternity...
Mar 07 03:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
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Mar 07 03:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7411 @ 0.0046 = 34.0906 BTC [-]
Mar 07 03:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00469999 = 1.8283 BTC [+]
Mar 07 03:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0048 = 5.76 BTC [+]
Mar 07 03:32:23 <oizotov>	;;ticker
Mar 07 03:32:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.90001, Best ask: 42.95100, Bid-ask spread: 0.05099, Last trade: 42.90001, 24 hour volume: 175372.31802034, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.41063
Mar 07 03:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+]
Mar 07 03:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+]
Mar 07 03:43:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 03:43:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.01590, Best ask: 44.12068, Bid-ask spread: 0.10478, Last trade: 44.01590, 24 hour volume: 177965.13484133, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.40520
Mar 07 03:44:33 <Chaang-Noi>	movement at gox, and the direction is up
Mar 07 03:50:04 <Bowjob>	The bear trap
Mar 07 03:52:51 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Mar 07 03:52:52 <gribble>	0.687269 seconds
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Mar 07 03:56:56 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 03:56:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.17120, Best ask: 44.20001, Bid-ask spread: 0.02881, Last trade: 44.39000, 24 hour volume: 177233.90169868, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.37772
Mar 07 03:56:59 <Bowjob>	not bad
Mar 07 03:57:15 <Anduck>	well
Mar 07 03:57:21 <Anduck>	IT SHOULD BE 60 USD ALREDY
Mar 07 03:57:24 <Anduck>	BUY BUY BUY
Mar 07 03:59:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00075 = 7.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 04:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol rebound ?
Mar 07 04:15:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.65 = 12.35 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 04:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00075 = 37.5 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:16:42 <Chaang-Noi>	mp hard to say if gox is even working
Mar 07 04:16:52 <Chaang-Noi>	for all we know gox is hand picking the trades
Mar 07 04:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 07 04:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe hasn't been quoting for like 6 hours because it can't get a coherent feed
Mar 07 04:19:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets bitcoinity is back online at least.
Mar 07 04:19:35 <Anduck>	i heard mpex got ddos'd
Mar 07 04:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck still going.
Mar 07 04:19:52 <Anduck>	well, anything you will do to stop it?
Mar 07 04:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Mar 07 04:20:04 <Anduck>	absorb it somewhere
Mar 07 04:20:14 <Anduck>	call ISP for dat?
Mar 07 04:20:33 <mircea_popescu>	they've been playing muscial chairs for what, 12 hours now ?
Mar 07 04:20:47 <Anduck>	so your isp dont know how to absorb a ddos?
Mar 07 04:21:23 <mircea_popescu>	is this some topic you fancy yourself an expert in ?
Mar 07 04:21:38 <Anduck>	no
Mar 07 04:21:42 <Anduck>	but isp should know how to fix it
Mar 07 04:21:53 <Anduck>	its shitty job but they should get it done by now
Mar 07 04:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like the doctor should know how to make you healthy, right ?
Mar 07 04:22:16 <Anduck>	well i am 100% sure i know way more about these things than you do.
Mar 07 04:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	what difference does it make anyway ? you're so desperate to read my blog today rather than tomorrow ?
Mar 07 04:22:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33317 = 0.6663 BTC [-]
Mar 07 04:22:44 <Anduck>	no but it's just funny cuz you said "mpex cant be taken down"
Mar 07 04:22:48 <Anduck>	or smth similar - in your blog, yes
Mar 07 04:22:58 <mircea_popescu>	i said it's immune to ddos. which it is.
Mar 07 04:23:17 <Anduck>	is it unusable right now-+-
Mar 07 04:23:17 <Anduck>	?
Mar 07 04:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Mar 07 04:23:26 <Anduck>	ok
Mar 07 04:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	can't you see it trading lol
Mar 07 04:23:36 <Anduck>	not really
Mar 07 04:23:42 <Anduck>	where would i see that?
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Mar 07 04:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00075 = 37.5 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/mpex1
Mar 07 04:24:50 <Anduck>	ok
Mar 07 04:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	that's kinda the idea. i saidf before a government couldn't take it down.
Mar 07 04:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	today is the proof. ddos it ? fine. so ?
Mar 07 04:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	who cares.
Mar 07 04:26:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 134 @ 0.0007 = 0.0938 BTC [-]
Mar 07 04:27:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 15 @ 0.00182 = 0.0273 BTC [-]
Mar 07 04:28:27 <Anduck>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 07 04:28:36 <Anduck>	duhh
Mar 07 04:28:48 <assbot>	The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
Mar 07 04:28:49 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: where can i see bid/ask of s.mpoe?
Mar 07 04:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	"S.MPOE": {"1d": {"avg": "74815.940534","min": "69034","max": "75000","vsh": "4149547","vsa": "310452261595","cnt": "41"}, "7d": {"avg": "74981.9993279","min": "69034","max": "78628","vsh": "11012234","vsa": "825719322387","cnt": "218"}, "30d": {"avg": "68500.398679","min": "61530","max": "78628","vsh": "65503018","vsa": "4486982847676","cnt": "5975"}},
Mar 07 04:29:15 <Anduck>	ty
Mar 07 04:30:04 <maximian>	also http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 07 04:30:15 <maximian>	which is also in the channel topic :)
Mar 07 04:30:26 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: did someone buy s.mpoe a lot?
Mar 07 04:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	past few days yeah
Mar 07 04:30:36 <Anduck>	i think i saw it at like 0.00060 or smth
Mar 07 04:30:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00986 = 0.0197 BTC [-]
Mar 07 04:30:48 <mircea_popescu>	i put a 10mn shares block up at 75 monday
Mar 07 04:30:53 <mircea_popescu>	and it's all but gone
Mar 07 04:31:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 48 @ 0.00982 = 0.4714 BTC [-]
Mar 07 04:31:41 <Anduck>	you took the wall off?
Mar 07 04:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	no, it was bought
Mar 07 04:31:56 <Anduck>	no way all 10,000,000 was bought?
Mar 07 04:32:05 <Anduck>	gz!
Mar 07 04:32:07 <BitHub>	Hey, i'm with my friend and he wants to know how did Satoshi gain his powers?
Mar 07 04:32:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.01552 = 0.0621 BTC [-]
Mar 07 04:32:18 <Anduck>	he talked to me.
Mar 07 04:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	like 500k left
Mar 07 04:32:33 <BitHub>	he doesn't believe me that sataoshi blew himself up with his mind
Mar 07 04:33:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1394 = 0.2788 BTC [-]
Mar 07 04:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	Mtgox trading engine lag: 10.51s
Mar 07 04:34:53 <mircea_popescu>	it almost caught up actually.
Mar 07 04:34:56 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 04:34:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.01000, Best ask: 44.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 44.50000, 24 hour volume: 173347.40604858, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.30310
Mar 07 04:35:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 58800 @ 0.0048 = 282.24 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:35:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5851 @ 0.0055 = 32.1805 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:35:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00564998 = 5.65 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.005769 = 2.3076 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:35:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 157 @ 0.005779 = 0.9073 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:35:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.005789 = 1.0941 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:35:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2504 @ 0.00578949 = 14.4969 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00579999 = 2.9 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00579999 = 5.8 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9376 @ 0.00584168 = 54.7716 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 04:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 223 @ 0.00588401 = 1.3121 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:35:54 <maximian>	s.dice not dead after all :)
Mar 07 04:36:13 <mircea_popescu>	just needed to meditate a little lol
Mar 07 04:38:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00596 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:39:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00597 = 0.0597 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 04:39:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 04:43:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00545 = 0.1363 BTC [-]
Mar 07 04:44:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 19 @ 0.00599 = 0.1138 BTC [+]
Mar 07 04:44:21 <Anduck>	hey
Mar 07 04:44:24 <Anduck>	did asicminer pay divs?
Mar 07 04:44:28 <Anduck>	-again-
Mar 07 04:44:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00545 = 0.0273 BTC [-]
Mar 07 04:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	ya like 19 iirc
Mar 07 04:44:53 <Anduck>	ij
Mar 07 04:44:53 <Anduck>	ok
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Mar 07 04:50:14 <Chaang-Noi>	so are we back to normal at gox, vol is okay?
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Mar 07 04:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	10 secondish
Mar 07 04:52:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah but is trade volume back, i can live with that delay
Mar 07 04:53:45 <Chaang-Noi>	when downloading the block chain, will more than 4 ram spead it up or is it only the cpu that matters?
Mar 07 04:55:48 <mircea_popescu>	disk is the bottleneck iirc
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Mar 07 04:58:46 <Chaaang-Noi>	http://pokerfuse.com/features/in-depth/winpoker-bitcoin-comes-worlds-largest-online-poker-network-ipoker-06-03/    fuuuuck yeah
Mar 07 05:02:05 <maximian>	mircea_popescu where is that list of proxies again? mpex.coinbr.com isn't responding for me (I hope juror isn't under attack now)
Mar 07 05:02:23 <maximian>	jurov I should say
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Mar 07 05:09:36 <Namworld>	both mpex.coinbr.com and mpex.co seem unavailable now.
Mar 07 05:09:49 <Namworld>	Someone is really DDoS'ing everything
Mar 07 05:10:07 <dub>	;;tslb
Mar 07 05:10:10 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 35 seconds
Mar 07 05:10:18 <maximian>	yeah looks like coinbr.com is getting the DDoS treatment
Mar 07 05:10:49 <Namworld>	Who the fuck has time to DDoS stuff anyway
Mar 07 05:11:08 <maximian>	someone who's really, really pissed off at MP
Mar 07 05:11:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 42 @ 0.00599 = 0.2516 BTC [+]
Mar 07 05:11:56 <dub>	probably extortion
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Mar 07 05:13:02 <maximian>	MP should have received a demand by now
Mar 07 05:13:07 <Namworld>	extortion seems possible
Mar 07 05:13:59 <Namworld>	If no one ever pays extortion, there goes the incentive. Anti-DDoS measures are more cost effective.
Mar 07 05:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	hey all.
Mar 07 05:19:27 <mircea_popescu>	mpex servers will be offline for a few hours. we are reconfiguring the router system, putting in new optics
Mar 07 05:19:34 <mircea_popescu>	and doing a lot of other overhauling.
Mar 07 05:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	no need to panic, all data is safe, by the time this is done mpex will have 10gb dedicated.
Mar 07 05:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	and a few other perks.
Mar 07 05:20:25 <Namworld>	10 Gbps?
Mar 07 05:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 07 05:20:42 <Namworld>	Seems massive.
Mar 07 05:20:46 <Namworld>	Good thing.
Mar 07 05:20:49 <mircea_popescu>	hey. 1gb x2 seemed massive.
Mar 07 05:21:10 <Namworld>	I'll hog 2 or 3 all for myself.
Mar 07 05:21:22 *	fishfish is now known as fishfish|AFK
Mar 07 05:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	to avoid any possible inconsistencies in dbases i am taking the ordering offline tho.
Mar 07 05:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	data may still be visible for a little bit.
Mar 07 05:21:59 *	fishfish|AFK is now known as fishfish
Mar 07 05:22:18 <maximian>	great
Mar 07 05:22:19 <Namworld>	Guess I'll go sleep and get back to trading tomorrow then.
Mar 07 05:22:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6616 @ 0.00073732 = 4.8781 BTC [-]
Mar 07 05:22:22 <Namworld>	Goodbye.
Mar 07 05:22:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2834 @ 0.00073731 = 2.0895 BTC [-]
Mar 07 05:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	i'm going to sleep too. techs have it from here.
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Mar 07 05:26:09 <jurov>	hello
Mar 07 05:26:58 <jurov>	coinbr has network dificulties, but it doesn't look like attack
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Mar 07 05:29:05 <oizotov>	;;ticker
Mar 07 05:29:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.65507, Best ask: 43.99100, Bid-ask spread: 0.33593, Last trade: 43.65507, 24 hour volume: 169564.38034507, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.22189
Mar 07 05:31:00 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 05:31:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.50000, Best ask: 43.54000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 43.54000, 24 hour volume: 170125.43926848, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.22377
Mar 07 05:32:00 <Ukto>	 BF last 24hrs, over 450btc vol
Mar 07 05:33:05 <BitHub>	BF ticker :)
Mar 07 05:38:48 <jurov>	so mpex is completely offline now, right?
Mar 07 05:39:18 <kakobrekla>	you can send a sign order via snail mail
Mar 07 05:39:25 <kakobrekla>	singed
Mar 07 05:39:41 <jurov>	okay... just situational awareness
Mar 07 05:40:17 <jurov>	and next time i meet Namworld i do something nasty to him
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Mar 07 05:40:42 <jurov>	he knows coinbr is on bitvps, plus i reminded him yest
Mar 07 05:41:08 <jurov>	but he was talking about it being attacked as if it was no concern for him
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Mar 07 05:42:08 <jurov>	i tried to give third chance to bitvps, but looks like these guys are incredibly dense
Mar 07 05:42:26 <jurov>	europe hosting, anyone?
Mar 07 05:42:57 <dub>	tell me more about how you want me to host your ddos magnet :)
Mar 07 05:43:37 <jurov>	ic
Mar 07 05:43:40 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 07 05:43:40 <gribble>	61.855174 seconds
Mar 07 05:45:56 <dub>	it sucks though, I'd be removing the proxy tbh, unless MP chips in for mitigation
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Mar 07 05:46:38 <jurov>	but it is not outright attack, but  something more weird
Mar 07 05:47:15 <jurov>	ping says >80% pkt loss, yet the machine is not loaded and counters show only 8GB transferred
Mar 07 05:47:22 <kakobrekla>	jurov im un yurope
Mar 07 05:47:37 <kakobrekla>	all my shit works tho
Mar 07 05:47:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 07 05:48:08 <jurov>	nobody awake on #bitvps, ofc... gonna put a ticket
Mar 07 05:48:42 <dub>	not sure how you could even tell from a vps
Mar 07 05:51:19 <dub>	I mean you wouldnt necessarily be able to tell, they don't need to be hitting your IP
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Mar 07 05:51:59 <jurov>	dunno why they suddenly shown such sophistication
Mar 07 05:52:12 <jurov>	not hitting the ip dorectly
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Mar 07 05:53:16 <dub>	they went after MPs nameservers and it sounds like he has a reasonable network. bvps is likely some resold horseshit
Mar 07 05:53:33 <mjr_>	yeah i was watching that
Mar 07 05:54:12 <mjr_>	is coinbr having any trouble?
Mar 07 05:55:04 <dub>	yes but not sure its dos
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Mar 07 05:59:56 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 05:59:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.00001, Best ask: 43.24994, Bid-ask spread: 0.24993, Last trade: 43.27359, 24 hour volume: 172756.47026311, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.22030
Mar 07 06:00:12 <jurov>	i really don't understand it. namworld happily gives out coinbr mpex proxy to everyone
Mar 07 06:00:27 <jurov>	he knows it is on bitvps
Mar 07 06:00:46 <jurov>	yet when it starts to have problems, he just goes to sleep
Mar 07 06:01:01 <jurov>	someone pls explain it to me
Mar 07 06:02:12 <jurov>	i can only assume tat they want to get rid of me
Mar 07 06:02:22 <dub>	actually looks like mp is pretty soft and 10G is the same as 56k to even a half assed 11 year old
Mar 07 06:03:30 <mjr_>	i think it is mostly just do to more volume
Mar 07 06:03:41 <mjr_>	there are a ton of btc websites that are slow or not working
Mar 07 06:04:18 <jurov>	dub, mjr_ wtf?
Mar 07 06:04:40 <mjr_>	huh?
Mar 07 06:04:42 <kakobrekla>	how much do you pay'
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Mar 07 06:04:59 <dub>	mpex is under dos, coinbr provided alternate access, there is no surprise here
Mar 07 06:05:13 <mjr_>	yeah, that is what i figured
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Mar 07 06:05:44 <mjr_>	i wouldn't mind hosting a proxy
Mar 07 06:05:48 <mjr_>	if anyone needs me to
Mar 07 06:05:58 <jurov>	i expected that there will be problems
Mar 07 06:06:13 <jurov>	but not that bitvps just ignores it
Mar 07 06:06:38 <dub>	I think kakobrekla has asked the pertinent question here
Mar 07 06:07:08 <jurov>	*looks it up*
Mar 07 06:08:06 <jurov>	it's just $20/mo atm . now i can afford more, but unsure what i should invest into
Mar 07 06:08:19 <jurov>	dedicated? cloudflare?
Mar 07 06:08:32 <dub>	cloudflare is terrible
Mar 07 06:08:48 <jurov>	...
Mar 07 06:09:08 <mjr_>	i would go with the dedicated server + CDN
Mar 07 06:09:22 <kakobrekla>	hetzner FTW
Mar 07 06:09:29 <jurov>	which cdn?
Mar 07 06:09:52 <kakobrekla>	http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix-ex
Mar 07 06:10:16 <kakobrekla>	i am abusing the shit of that that box and it works like a clock
Mar 07 06:10:30 <mjr_>	https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/service
Mar 07 06:10:41 <mjr_>	basically google
Mar 07 06:10:55 <mjr_>	i like GAE...personally
Mar 07 06:11:02 <jurov>	coinbr is pretty lean, it wasn't even approaching that vps limits
Mar 07 06:11:14 <jurov>	just the network...
Mar 07 06:11:45 <mjr_>	has anyone looked at putting a recaptcha as a gateway?
Mar 07 06:13:04 <mjr_>	i really don't know what you specifically need Jurov
Mar 07 06:13:21 <mjr_>	but i would guess network not hardware right?
Mar 07 06:13:57 <jurov>	yes. ddos protection. the site itself would prolly run on rpi :)
Mar 07 06:14:29 <mjr_>	yeah, that's part of the reason i like google app engine (also i'm lazy)
Mar 07 06:14:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 46 @ 0.00545 = 0.2507 BTC [-]
Mar 07 06:16:14 <jurov>	brb
Mar 07 06:17:11 <mjr_>	they have a very easy to implement blacklist...i think right now they have 100% uptime
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Mar 07 06:22:30 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 07 06:22:30 <gribble>	0.59654 seconds
Mar 07 06:22:34 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 06:22:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.88802, Best ask: 42.99997, Bid-ask spread: 0.11195, Last trade: 42.99997, 24 hour volume: 172750.16688273, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.20894
Mar 07 06:22:45 <Bowjob>	im okay with this
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Mar 07 06:36:42 *	kakobrekla has changed the topic to: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ || CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : tough shit
Mar 07 06:36:46 *	kakobrekla removes channel operator status from kakobrekla
Mar 07 06:38:07 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 06:38:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.38001, Best ask: 43.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11998, Last trade: 43.38001, 24 hour volume: 173881.76732166, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.21114
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Mar 07 06:46:31 <TradeFortress>	anyone interested in a put option on asicminer @ 0.6? 50 shares
Mar 07 06:46:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 07 06:46:51 <TradeFortress>	pm me on bitcointalk / email with offers, I'm going to go to sleep now.
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Mar 07 06:50:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.345 = 1.38 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 07:01:35 <Chaang-Noi>	tradefortress details on the put?
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Mar 07 07:15:50 <jurov>	i'll prolly rather move to amazon ec2 , GAE would require me to denormalize the db
Mar 07 07:16:18 <jurov>	must research the terms of service
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Mar 07 08:37:30 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2013/03/20133710449989855.html  N Korea, master strategists
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Mar 07 08:47:35 <error4733>	!ticker m sdice
Mar 07 08:47:56 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Mar 07 08:52:08 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 45
Mar 07 08:52:13 <gribble>	There are currently 4730.0602 bitcoins offered at or under 45.0 USD, worth 211648.081609 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0027 seconds
Mar 07 08:52:15 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 40
Mar 07 08:52:15 <gribble>	There are currently 9811.6646 bitcoins demanded at or over 40.0 USD, worth 404361.223178 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1.7030 seconds
Mar 07 08:52:25 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 47
Mar 07 08:52:25 <gribble>	There are currently 11873.925 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 540641.456853 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.3103 seconds
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Mar 07 08:52:43 <Chaang-Noi>	 CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : tough shit      lulz
Mar 07 08:53:03 <ZedsterX>	lol
Mar 07 08:53:03 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 40
Mar 07 08:53:03 <gribble>	There are currently 9811.6646 bitcoins demanded at or over 40.0 USD, worth 404361.223178 USD in total. | Data vintage: 50.4524 seconds
Mar 07 08:53:04 <BitHub>	hehe
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Mar 07 08:55:18 <jurov>	;;bids 50
Mar 07 08:55:24 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0066 seconds
Mar 07 08:55:35 <jurov>	;;asks 50
Mar 07 08:55:36 <gribble>	There are currently 35803.172 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 1713107.28124 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.8269 seconds
Mar 07 08:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00074695 = 8.6646 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 09:02:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 09:09:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0073 BTC [+]
Mar 07 09:10:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72 @ 0.00073731 = 0.0531 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 09:31:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9320 @ 0.00073113 = 6.8141 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 09:32:15 <imsaguy>	uh oh
Mar 07 09:32:17 <imsaguy>	http://blog.utorrent.com/2013/01/24/introducing-btc-a-torrenting-shortcut/
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Mar 07 09:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 09:51:44 <blu3gr1ffon>	aaaaaand we're back at $45
Mar 07 09:51:46 <blu3gr1ffon>	;;ticker
Mar 07 09:51:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.90000, Best ask: 44.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 44.90000, 24 hour volume: 176716.45617518, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 42.15543
Mar 07 09:51:58 *	blu3gr1ffon is now known as deadweasel
Mar 07 09:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10130 @ 0.00073113 = 7.4063 BTC [-]
Mar 07 09:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.43 = 1.72 BTC [-]
Mar 07 09:53:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.425001 BTC [-]
Mar 07 09:53:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42500001 BTC [-]
Mar 07 09:53:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.425 = 5.525 BTC [-]
Mar 07 09:53:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.42 = 4.62 BTC [-]
Mar 07 09:53:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 47 @ 0.4151 = 19.5097 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 10:00:26 <Chaang-Noi>	45
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Mar 07 10:14:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 10:19:29 <jurov>	mpex.coinbr.com back online (using amazon ec2, fuck bitvps)
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Mar 07 10:19:46 <jurov>	but it shows just "MPEx infrastructure is being overhauled" anyway
Mar 07 10:20:18 <mod6>	that's better then just the default page for the hosting co though. so no worries.
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Mar 07 10:20:35 <Rick__>	Hey
Mar 07 10:21:02 <Rick__>	Anyone can tell me which site I can use
Mar 07 10:21:25 <BitHub>	what do you want to do and what assets?
Mar 07 10:21:31 <Rick__>	every website I know is down
Mar 07 10:21:41 <BitHub>	bitfunder.com?
Mar 07 10:21:52 <Rick__>	I want to use MPEx
Mar 07 10:21:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0073 = 0.0292 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:22:08 <jurov>	Rick__ they are overhauling
Mar 07 10:22:08 <BitHub>	then read up
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Mar 07 10:22:30 <jurov>	send them gpg-encrypted commands by email if urgent
Mar 07 10:22:31 <Rick__>	for how long?
Mar 07 10:22:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00776 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:22:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 181 @ 0.00849 = 1.5367 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:22:49 <jurov>	should be today por tomorrow
Mar 07 10:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.46478 = 1.8591 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46479999 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:23:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.464999 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:23:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:23:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 58 @ 0.0085 = 0.493 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:23:59 <Rick__>	You are one of the staff?
Mar 07 10:24:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.00879 = 0.0527 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 10:24:26 <jurov>	Rick__ no, but i'm coinbr owner
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Mar 07 10:24:48 <Rick__>	why coinbr is also down?
Mar 07 10:25:43 <jurov>	i don't know. maybe it was also attacked but got no response from bitvps so far
Mar 07 10:26:26 <jurov>	as soon as i can get to it, am moving it away from bitvps for good
Mar 07 10:27:02 <jurov>	with everything nicely hidden behind amazon
Mar 07 10:27:54 <Rick__>	so there is no one can open Mpex
Mar 07 10:28:01 <Rick__>	now?
Mar 07 10:28:25 <jurov>	you can send encrypted STAT by email, that's that all can be done
Mar 07 10:28:51 <mod6>	there was a massive DDOS attack on it yesterday -- they're beefin up the pipes and other things
Mar 07 10:29:29 <B0g4r7_>	jeez, mpex down, gox was lagged, btc-e was having problems, bitinstant's been down...
Mar 07 10:29:45 <B0g4r7_>	At least the forums work, lol.
Mar 07 10:29:47 <B0g4r7_>	for now
Mar 07 10:29:53 <jurov>	it's wild west, after all
Mar 07 10:29:55 <mod6>	otc works :)
Mar 07 10:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.48749999 = 0.975 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:30:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4898 = 0.9796 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:30:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.48999999 = 0.98 BTC [+]
Mar 07 10:30:15 <B0g4r7_>	I was offline yesterday.  Snowstorm knocked out my grid power all day, and also knocked down my internet antenna.
Mar 07 10:31:19 <deadweasel>	lucky you B0g4r7_
Mar 07 10:31:35 <deadweasel>	it was a big emotional mess, all for naught.
Mar 07 10:32:13 <B0g4r7_>	Also knocked down a tree across my driveway that I had to cut up and clean up.
Mar 07 10:33:58 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 45
Mar 07 10:33:59 <gribble>	There are currently 1945.6553 bitcoins offered at or under 45.0 USD, worth 87553.9859663 USD in total. | Data vintage: 104.5508 seconds
Mar 07 10:35:07 <Rick__>	could
Mar 07 10:35:15 <Rick__>	could you give me your email address
Mar 07 10:36:04 <jurov>	me?
Mar 07 10:36:24 <jurov>	can you please ask bit more inteligently?
Mar 07 10:37:58 <Rick__>	yes
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Mar 07 10:38:20 <Rick__>	you.I dont konw how to send you private massage
Mar 07 10:38:34 <jurov>	it's /msg <nick>
Mar 07 10:39:33 <kakobrekla>	is it msg nick? i thought we prepare the client with rm -rf * and then open the query with halt
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Mar 07 10:39:56 <jurov>	kakobrekla you forgot sudo
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Mar 07 10:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.49 = 3.43 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 10:43:07 <Rick__>	could you give me your email address?
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Mar 07 10:44:42 <mod6>	just send him a pm: /msg jurov
Mar 07 10:45:10 <jurov>	we're in a pm already... but he can't say outright what he needs
Mar 07 10:45:15 <jurov>	maybe it's a bot
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Mar 07 10:45:26 <mod6>	ahh. yeah could be.
Mar 07 10:48:45 <Rick__>	I am not a bot
Mar 07 10:49:00 <Rick__>	I just dont know how to use this thing
Mar 07 10:49:09 <deadweasel>	it's a computer
Mar 07 10:49:22 <Rick__>	I type /msg jurov
Mar 07 10:49:37 <deadweasel>	then space and type some words
Mar 07 10:49:37 <Rick__>	then I enter,I can see nothing
Mar 07 10:49:55 <Rick__>	yeah I did so
Mar 07 10:50:37 <ZedsterX>	;;seen burnside
Mar 07 10:50:38 <gribble>	burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 17 hours, 18 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <burnside> I don't think so.
Mar 07 10:50:51 <BitHub>	"/query"
Mar 07 10:52:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 07 10:53:02 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4820231.69908 based on data since last change | 4695365.71573 based on data for last three days
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Mar 07 11:03:01 <jcpham>	i guess everyone burned out
Mar 07 11:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4151 = 4.151 BTC [-]
Mar 07 11:03:06 <jcpham>	too much bitcoin
Mar 07 11:03:30 <mod6>	is that possible?
Mar 07 11:04:42 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Mar 07 11:04:44 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 07 11:04:50 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 224701 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1090 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 13 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4738813.84956 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.49241
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Mar 07 11:31:09 <benkay>	tough shit? any more information available than that?
Mar 07 11:31:18 <kakobrekla>	oh yeah
Mar 07 11:31:22 <kakobrekla>	lemme fix dat
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Mar 07 11:31:41 *	kakobrekla has changed the topic to: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ || CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://mpex.coinbr.com/
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Mar 07 11:32:32 <benkay>	is there a place I should look for advance notice of MPEx outages?
Mar 07 11:33:00 <error4733>	any proxy for mpex ?
Mar 07 11:33:31 <kakobrekla>	benkay this would be the place
Mar 07 11:34:55 <benkay>	"advance"
Mar 07 11:35:18 <benkay>	?
Mar 07 11:35:49 <_scrybe>	like an official outage announcement for a hardware upgrade or something
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Mar 07 11:36:43 <benkay>	or something, sure.
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Mar 07 11:37:15 <jborkl>	I am sure someone will preannounce the ddos next time
Mar 07 11:37:41 <benkay>	ah there was a ddos
Mar 07 11:37:43 <jurov>	error4733, i restored mpex.coinbr.com but mpex itself is down
Mar 07 11:37:50 <jurov>	and coinbr too
Mar 07 11:38:15 <benkay>	I read "overhaul" and do not parse that as "ddos"
Mar 07 11:38:25 <jurov>	overhaul following ddos
Mar 07 11:41:59 <benkay>	who was targeted in ddos? mpex/coinbr? others? who didn't get slammed?
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Mar 07 11:43:44 <error4733>	*popcorn
Mar 07 11:43:58 <error4733>	thanks jurov
Mar 07 11:44:54 <jurov>	benkay, only mpex was, coinbr was functioning normally most of the time
Mar 07 11:45:23 <jurov>	then today they took mpex offline for overhaul and coinbr vps got strange network issue
Mar 07 11:45:39 <benkay>	related?
Mar 07 11:45:40 <jurov>	that makes bitvps' heads scratching
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Mar 07 11:45:46 <jurov>	possible,dunno
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Mar 07 11:48:20 <benkay>	when did mpex go down?
Mar 07 11:48:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00661 BTC [-]
Mar 07 11:48:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 120 @ 0.00661 = 0.7932 BTC [-]
Mar 07 11:49:15 <jurov>	benkay you mean mpex.co or?
Mar 07 11:49:29 <benkay>	.co
Mar 07 11:49:34 <jurov>	since technically it isn't down, it trades via email
Mar 07 11:49:49 <jurov>	mpex.co since yest morning
Mar 07 11:50:01 <benkay>	right, i remember that.
Mar 07 11:50:37 <error4733>	ok, i make simple ! FFS where i can see the last trade for SD hehe
Mar 07 11:52:24 <Troic_>	#bitcoin-assets-trades ?
Mar 07 11:55:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 3 @ 0.0191 = 0.0573 BTC [-]
Mar 07 11:58:07 <error4733>	just open irc...
Mar 07 11:58:36 <kakobrekla>	or here
Mar 07 11:58:37 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoin-assets.com/mpex-socket/
Mar 07 11:59:52 <Troic_>	that was ~8 hours ago. <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 223 @ 0.00588401 = 1.3121 BTC [+]
Mar 07 12:00:25 <Troic_>	last PT was<assbot> [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4151 = 4.151 BTC [-] about an hour ago
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Mar 07 12:02:54 <error4733>	0.0058 wuuuuuuuuuut ? thanks Troic
Mar 07 12:03:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4120 @ 0.00072873 = 3.0024 BTC [-]
Mar 07 12:04:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00075 = 1.35 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 12:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	sooo what's new ?
Mar 07 12:30:00 <deadweasel>	a bunch of emotionally drained bitcoin crazed monkeys.
Mar 07 12:30:02 <deadweasel>	so nothing new.
Mar 07 12:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	haha sounds about right
Mar 07 12:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	jurov did you get nuked in the end ?
Mar 07 12:34:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18001 BTC [-]
Mar 07 12:34:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18001 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 12:38:29 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, it's still not clear it it was really me
Mar 07 12:38:34 <jurov>	[18:31] <arij> yea there is a massive amount of traffic hitting the node
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Mar 07 12:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol mkay
Mar 07 12:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	CoinBr under maintenance/overhaul, should be available before March 8. Contact us on support()coinbr.com .
Mar 07 12:40:13 <mircea_popescu>	i get that much.
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Mar 07 12:40:39 <jurov>	well, this is new server. the original one is not reachable
Mar 07 12:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	o
Mar 07 12:40:54 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Mar 07 12:41:00 <jurov>	should it stay unreachable, i'll install everything there
Mar 07 12:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny, last year the forum crowd was all aggitated about "o, da gubbinmint"
Mar 07 12:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	i knew then that it's not the freaking government that'll be the issue on the midterm.
Mar 07 12:42:45 <mod6>	yeah, I might give out my second neg rating to Luke-Jr
Mar 07 12:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	why Luke-Jr ?
Mar 07 12:43:54 <mod6>	all his nonsense about SD spamming the blockchain
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Mar 07 12:44:16 <mod6>	and the fact that he published some mining code that breaks protocol and promotes it to other miners.
Mar 07 12:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, attention ho.
Mar 07 12:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	retaliatory rating if some idiot negs you i can see
Mar 07 12:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	going out of your way to politically rate people... meh. not so much.
Mar 07 12:44:52 <mod6>	i dunno what to call it if I rate him down, but im tired of this shit.
Mar 07 12:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 12:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	what difference does it make to you tho ? there's going to be an onion in any soup
Mar 07 12:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	do you mind that it's called Luke-Jr or whatever else ?
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Mar 07 12:46:32 <mod6>	i can't articulate myself enough -- im just against all his SD blockchain spamming bullshit
Mar 07 12:47:10 *	mod6 is angry 
Mar 07 12:47:46 <mircea_popescu>	hey, most people are
Mar 07 12:47:52 <Luke-Jr>	you'd rather see SD flood Bitcoin to death
Mar 07 12:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	well... not as much against as amused.
Mar 07 12:48:16 <mod6>	i've been reading all this btctalk stuff today, and he's just wrong about SD spamming. just because he'd design SD differently.... or believes that gambling is immoral because he loves jesus.
Mar 07 12:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr dude, still with this ? sd is the only thing happening on bitcoin, forget about it already.
Mar 07 12:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	o, is it a loving bejezuz issue really ?
Mar 07 12:49:02 <error4733>	if blockchain can't support SD now, what happen with 1M user ?
Mar 07 12:49:06 <Luke-Jr>	no, it's a mod6-is-a-troll issue
Mar 07 12:49:16 <mod6>	im not trolling shit motherfucker
Mar 07 12:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	this wouldn't be by any chance related to the girl bitchslapping that hearn muppet earlier, would it ?
Mar 07 12:49:22 <Luke-Jr>	error4733: 1M user with 1000 tx/sec is easier than 10 users with 1000 tx/sec
Mar 07 12:49:23 <error4733>	all bs, erik is right, better now than to late
Mar 07 12:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	1M user with 1000 tx/sec is easier than 10 users with 1000 tx/sec <<< you can't even distinguish users apart.
Mar 07 12:50:14 <Luke-Jr>	error4733: 1mil users can provide infra for 1000 tx/sec; what we have today, no way
Mar 07 12:50:24 <mircea_popescu>	i can make 1mn txs right now, you won't be able to produce an accurate usercount.
Mar 07 12:50:36 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: it's easy. just go to #bitcoin and ask SD players to PM you.
Mar 07 12:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha, if you think retail users will run that braindamaged abomination called "the bitcoin client" you're off your rocker.
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Mar 07 12:52:31 <mircea_popescu>	if there were 1mn users drawn to bitcoin because of satoshi dice, they'd just run piuk's wallet into the ground, and you'd whine about how "blockchain is spamming the network"
Mar 07 12:52:51 <mircea_popescu>	this sort of internecine bullshit may be appropriate in fringe churches of weird and other midwestern concerns
Mar 07 12:52:59 <Luke-Jr>	I don't care who it is, if they flood the network it's miners' job to filter them out
Mar 07 12:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	but it does not belong in technology. technology is for smart people.
Mar 07 12:53:10 <mircea_popescu>	you literally have no idea what you are talking about.
Mar 07 12:53:12 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: you'd better leave then
Mar 07 12:53:29 <Luke-Jr>	after all, technology is for smart people..
Mar 07 12:53:48 <Luke-Jr>	not anarchist lunatics who can't figure out the most obvious legal scenario
Mar 07 12:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 07 12:54:13 <mod6>	smh
Mar 07 12:54:17 <mircea_popescu>	listen, how do you figure you're a mioner anyway
Mar 07 12:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	best i can make out you're a concern troll with a checkered past.
Mar 07 12:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4298 @ 0.00072873 = 3.1321 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 13:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	looking through the forum digests this is motherfucking sad
Mar 07 13:01:52 <mod6>	i mean seriously
Mar 07 13:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	Gateway capacity trouble at Coinbase?  	Is anyone else having problems with Bitme deposits? Mt.Gox Payment system problem  What the fuck Bitfinex? MtGox should halt trading when Order Lag time is this long.  	Anyone's bitfloor deposits working?
Mar 07 13:02:29 <mircea_popescu>	it's like fucking extravaganza.
Mar 07 13:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	and the cherry on top, Website performance is going to be the bane of many n00bs when it's time to sell
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Mar 07 13:02:57 <mircea_popescu>	dude i dunno about noobs. it'd be the bane of me.
Mar 07 13:03:44 <deadweasel>	bugpowder and I were all jammed up about goxlag of 10 minutes
Mar 07 13:04:08 <deadweasel>	it was a learning opportunity
Mar 07 13:04:13 <mircea_popescu>	heh. i think the lag reporting was laggy
Mar 07 13:04:24 <mod6>	heheh
Mar 07 13:04:29 <mircea_popescu>	at some point they were pasting half hour old trades out of order into the feed
Mar 07 13:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	classical meltdown.
Mar 07 13:04:52 <mircea_popescu>	actually it looked a lot like nasdaq when facebook.
Mar 07 13:04:55 <Diablo-D3>	lol goxlag
Mar 07 13:06:44 <BTCTrader2>	what are people using for cli? is it faster?
Mar 07 13:07:08 <jurov>	mircea_popescu , is there any place for mpex chinese/pakistani users to inquiry about the outage?
Mar 07 13:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	jurov here basically.
Mar 07 13:07:29 <jurov>	one dude came and seemd completely out of his mind
Mar 07 13:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	have him join the chan it can be explained to him.
Mar 07 13:07:47 <deadweasel>	which one?
Mar 07 13:07:57 <deadweasel>	Rick___?
Mar 07 13:08:03 <jurov>	yes. he's gone now.
Mar 07 13:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	awww that poor dude was sending me crazed messages too.
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Mar 07 13:08:52 <mircea_popescu>	but to sum up the situation, cause i imagine many people are curious :
Mar 07 13:09:24 <mircea_popescu>	mpex consists of a trade server and webservers which the users talk to.
Mar 07 13:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	if you look at it practically these webservers are practically proxies.
Mar 07 13:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	there is five of them sharing two gigabit uplinks through a balancer.
Mar 07 13:10:31 <mircea_popescu>	the first time mpex was ddosed in january the attack took out the actual datacenter top level router.
Mar 07 13:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	there were two more layers of routing to get to the router that handled the webservers.
Mar 07 13:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	now, the reason admittedly was that the thing was a little old and kidna loaded. but still.
Mar 07 13:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	so at that time i split the tubes up north/east, and started a bunch of proxies
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Mar 07 13:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	jurov was hosting one, for instance.
Mar 07 13:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	since the attack started yesterday a total of 100+ of these were taken offline.
Mar 07 13:12:26 <mircea_popescu>	granted, it's not easy to blow up a small shared setup like that.
Mar 07 13:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	but somebody did have the determination to spend a day and a half looking for them, setting up the ddosing for them individually bla bla.
Mar 07 13:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	the thing with that system is that it works by division. if there's 100 of them there jurov can stay online.
Mar 07 13:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	if there's 9 left the remainder ddos is available to hit him
Mar 07 13:13:51 <mircea_popescu>	i could allow anyone to start a proxy right now, the trade server is fine, etc. the problem is
Mar 07 13:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	you'd be nuked in half an hour or something, and it's just hassle.
Mar 07 13:14:29 <imsaguy>	mmm, shake n bake
Mar 07 13:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	right.
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Mar 07 13:14:44 <mircea_popescu>	now, a humongo 10gb dedicated solution is being set up as we speak
Mar 07 13:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	i had this sort-of prepared, but not actually provisioned and ready because the shit is expensive
Mar 07 13:15:51 <imsaguy>	so you're having more babies to win the war?
Mar 07 13:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	basically.
Mar 07 13:15:55 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Mar 07 13:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy the alternative is handle mpex trades by email.
Mar 07 13:15:59 <Diablo-D3>	email, the original next generation mail queue
Mar 07 13:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	yep.
Mar 07 13:16:02 <imsaguy>	how about mpex trades via telnet?
Mar 07 13:16:08 <imsaguy>	:D
Mar 07 13:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	to what ip ?
Mar 07 13:16:19 <imsaguy>	127.0.0.1
Mar 07 13:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	see, mail is diffuse.
Mar 07 13:16:20 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if that makes uunet the original original message queue
Mar 07 13:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 13:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 prolly.
Mar 07 13:16:30 <imsaguy>	how about mpex over irc?
Mar 07 13:16:37 <Diablo-D3>	fuck we need uunet back
Mar 07 13:16:41 <Diablo-D3>	that shit was baus
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Mar 07 13:16:45 <imsaguy>	let freenode get ddos
Mar 07 13:16:47 <imsaguy>	I hear they like that
Mar 07 13:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy the problem is irc doesn't handle pgp so well
Mar 07 13:16:58 <imsaguy>	yes it does
Mar 07 13:16:59 <imsaguy>	ask gribble
Mar 07 13:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	(and i don't think they have enough to cope, but maybe)
Mar 07 13:17:00 <Diablo-D3>	I could name a box "chicks" and name a user "i"
Mar 07 13:17:01 <imsaguy>	:)
Mar 07 13:17:02 <Diablo-D3>	and it'd be funny
Mar 07 13:17:18 <imsaguy>	people pastebin the pgp
Mar 07 13:17:22 <imsaguy>	feed the bot the raw url
Mar 07 13:17:24 <imsaguy>	simple as pie
Mar 07 13:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy yeah. last i talked to nanotube he was like "i don't want this in production handling opm"
Mar 07 13:17:34 <imsaguy>	I'm not saying graft onto gribble
Mar 07 13:17:37 <imsaguy>	I'm saying clone
Mar 07 13:17:43 <imsaguy>	steal the concept
Mar 07 13:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	dawg...
Mar 07 13:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	fuck you srsly.
Mar 07 13:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	why didn't i think opf that
Mar 07 13:17:57 <imsaguy>	dee oh gee
Mar 07 13:18:05 <mircea_popescu>	people can just paste a pastebin link or w/e
Mar 07 13:18:06 <Diablo-D3>	oh em gee
Mar 07 13:18:13 <imsaguy>	derp
Mar 07 13:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 13:18:29 <imsaguy>	and then the bot filters anything not formed as url
Mar 07 13:18:32 <imsaguy>	thats the first line
Mar 07 13:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy wanna code an irc proxy for me ?
Mar 07 13:18:38 <imsaguy>	second line is it only parses text
Mar 07 13:18:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: dude, just use perl
Mar 07 13:18:49 <mircea_popescu>	all you have to do is take urls from people and feed them into server as pgp strings
Mar 07 13:18:52 <imsaguy>	no, just fork gribble
Mar 07 13:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	so fork gribble, i dun care.
Mar 07 13:19:06 <imsaguy>	the code for reading pastebin to gpg
Mar 07 13:19:11 <imsaguy>	its already written
Mar 07 13:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	im trying to hire you over here ;/
Mar 07 13:19:27 <imsaguy>	what's it pay?
Mar 07 13:19:30 <imsaguy>	gypsie man
Mar 07 13:19:31 <mircea_popescu>	pm.
Mar 07 13:20:57 <jurov>	waitwhat? ppl will publish urls to encrypted orders on irc to be picked up by mpoe bot?
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Mar 07 13:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yup
Mar 07 13:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	i like this chan, srsly.
Mar 07 13:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	ppl are facepalming left and right around me
Mar 07 13:22:20 <imsaguy>	working on it now
Mar 07 13:24:22 <jurov>	lol you should accept clearsigned orders, too, then.
Mar 07 13:24:27 <jurov>	unencrypted
Mar 07 13:24:44 <jurov>	moar phun
Mar 07 13:25:04 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
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Mar 07 13:28:44 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: Can I help you guys with the infrastructure for the site?
Mar 07 13:28:53 <wiggzz>	so coinbr and mpex are down?
Mar 07 13:29:03 <mircea_popescu>	wiggzz atm, yes.
Mar 07 13:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca do you have a gb+ pipe you can play with ?
Mar 07 13:29:17 <wiggzz>	ok.  no worries, thanks
Mar 07 13:29:39 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: are you having a DDOS attack? what's the problem.
Mar 07 13:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	yes. read up the chat i just explained it 5 minutes ago
Mar 07 13:29:57 <Chilca>	let me read it
Mar 07 13:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	o you just joined huh. brb pastebin
Mar 07 13:30:29 <Chilca>	I just joined. Pastebin will be great
Mar 07 13:30:44 <mod6>	 Any paste or usage pattern not related to that goal which results in unusually high traffic will be flagged for investigation.
Mar 07 13:30:51 <mod6>	this could become a problem
Mar 07 13:31:06 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 they can use their own domains tho
Mar 07 13:31:12 <mod6>	as well, is it a good idea to store everyones cyphertexts indefinately?
Mar 07 13:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/8dWy851p Chilca wiggzz
Mar 07 13:31:17 <jcpham>	yes thank you my vps is fubar
Mar 07 13:31:40 <jcpham>	bee tee double you
Mar 07 13:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 now that i don't know.
Mar 07 13:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	but if someone breaks pgp in 2049, what do they get ? a lot of BUY|S.BLABLA|350|45000 ?
Mar 07 13:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham y-double-y-cum.
Mar 07 13:32:45 <jcpham>	switzerland is down
Mar 07 13:32:49 <jcpham>	too many bandwidths
Mar 07 13:32:56 <jcpham>	angry netizens
Mar 07 13:33:14 <mod6>	yea. i just figure maybe having our asses hanging in the breeze is a great oppertunity for the NSA to try to extract data on a sort of chosen cypertext attack
Mar 07 13:33:30 <imsaguy>	that why you expire the pastebin
Mar 07 13:33:51 <imsaguy>	it only needs to live for <10 minutes
Mar 07 13:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 listen, the pastebins would be encrypted with mpex key
Mar 07 13:33:59 <mod6>	ok imsaguy, that should work
Mar 07 13:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	if they get anywhere they broke pgp.
Mar 07 13:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	because
Mar 07 13:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	you can take a string and encrypt it with mpex key right now
Mar 07 13:34:00 <jurov>	jcpham, now imagine they could have started resolving it 6 hours earlier
Mar 07 13:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	locally
Mar 07 13:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	for one trillion times
Mar 07 13:34:17 <jurov>	if namworld was able to remember that coinbr in on bitvps
Mar 07 13:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	jurov no cause i was sleeping.
Mar 07 13:34:30 <mod6>	*nod* im with you.
Mar 07 13:34:33 <mircea_popescu>	and contrary to what everyone thinks, great ideas also need sane management to get anywhere.
Mar 07 13:34:48 <jurov>	mircea i'm speaking about bitvps to jcpham
Mar 07 13:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	o i got confused :D
Mar 07 13:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	sorry.
Mar 07 13:35:23 <jcpham>	sorry jurov
Mar 07 13:35:30 <jurov>	can't get over it... namworld said "o mpex.coinbr.com has problems, prolly ddos" and he went to sleep
Mar 07 13:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 13:35:40 <jcpham>	my opinion of switzerland is that it is not for critical stuff
Mar 07 13:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't exactly like that lol
Mar 07 13:35:46 <jurov>	despite i did tell him it's to be expected
Mar 07 13:36:06 <mod6>	im not even sure I ever noticed the pastebin expire time lol
Mar 07 13:36:37 <Chilca>	do you guys have a firewall on top the servers?
Mar 07 13:36:40 <mod6>	this is a pretty sweet idea tho imsaguy
Mar 07 13:36:45 <imsaguy>	lol
Mar 07 13:36:49 <imsaguy>	Chilca, first ddos?
Mar 07 13:37:02 <imsaguy>	mod6, I'm pretty stupid, most of the time
Mar 07 13:37:08 <imsaguy>	but the rest of the time, I try to make up for it.
Mar 07 13:37:10 <mod6>	naw
Mar 07 13:37:15 <mod6>	werd :)
Mar 07 13:37:27 <Chilca>	imsaguy: In my company we use radware to stop ddos.
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Mar 07 13:37:59 <Chilca>	I can talk with the CEO and he can ship one to your dc if you want.
Mar 07 13:38:03 <Chilca>	for free
Mar 07 13:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	that's a nice thought, but
Mar 07 13:39:25 <imsaguy>	its hosted out of his bedroom
Mar 07 13:39:33 <imsaguy>	I doubt you want in that dungeon
Mar 07 13:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	in the middle of installing gear so might not be the best time
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Mar 07 13:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42424242 BTC [+]
Mar 07 13:42:59 <jurov>	 <phungus> we've found out that it is indeed coinbr.com being ddos'ed
Mar 07 13:43:39 <jurov>	<phungus> we've shut it all down, working on restoring everyone else, please be patient
Mar 07 13:43:46 <jurov>	oh my
Mar 07 13:43:53 <mircea_popescu>	dudes not paying attention are they.
Mar 07 13:44:17 <jurov>	yea, after 8 hours
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Mar 07 13:45:38 <jcpham>	i could've told them coinbr was going to get ddos'd yesterday
Mar 07 13:45:50 <jcpham>	it seems like maybe you attemtped to notify them
Mar 07 13:46:05 <jurov>	i told namworld myself. but he's just not the right person for that.
Mar 07 13:46:19 <imsaguy>	!mpex url email
Mar 07 13:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.495 = 9.9 BTC [+]
Mar 07 13:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Mar 07 13:49:22 <dub>	;;ticker
Mar 07 13:49:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.50001, Best ask: 42.69899, Bid-ask spread: 0.19898, Last trade: 42.50001, 24 hour volume: 174284.00806825, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 48.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.65273
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Mar 07 14:17:55 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: should be pretty trivial to set up an irc bot that just takes user input and passes it along to your server. if you set it up with a cloak, attackers can't even know its ip.
Mar 07 14:18:10 <nanotube>	so they'd have to take down all of freenode.
Mar 07 14:18:34 <nanotube>	and if you use gribble/supy as base, it by default limits number of commands per user per time, so they can't even flood it out.
Mar 07 14:18:59 <jurov>	nanotube, imsaguy is on it
Mar 07 14:19:38 <nanotube>	jurov: ah cool :)
Mar 07 14:22:36 <imsaguy>	nanotube: pgp over irc
Mar 07 14:22:38 <imsaguy>	PITA
Mar 07 14:22:41 <imsaguy>	:)
Mar 07 14:23:49 <nanotube>	imsaguy: heh well, just have it take a pastebin link, and pass it along to mpex.
Mar 07 14:23:52 <nanotube>	should be trivial
Mar 07 14:24:07 <imsaguy>	but then mpex passes pgp back :p
Mar 07 14:24:13 <imsaguy>	thats the poitn of ddos
Mar 07 14:24:25 <nanotube>	well, mpex passes back another pastebin link
Mar 07 14:24:27 <nanotube>	easy peasy
Mar 07 14:24:31 <nanotube>	unless they ddos pastebin.com
Mar 07 14:24:38 <imsaguy>	:)
Mar 07 14:24:41 <nanotube>	but there are so many pastebins out there, you can easily cycle among them
Mar 07 14:24:58 <imsaguy>	they all use captcha
Mar 07 14:25:12 <Diablo-D3>	PASTEBINCLOUD
Mar 07 14:25:14 <Diablo-D3>	lawlz
Mar 07 14:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube it shall be done.
Mar 07 14:25:17 <nanotube>	some provide apis for pasting. like paste.debian
Mar 07 14:25:18 <Diablo-D3>	sounds like the shit devcoin does
Mar 07 14:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	this of course has no bearing on the new pipe coming online.
Mar 07 14:25:44 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: make sure to have the bot communicate with another secret proxy, not core server. so if bot is cracked open, they only discover one of your proxies, not real location.
Mar 07 14:25:48 <dub>	pastebin.com was hosed yesterday
Mar 07 14:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube yes.
Mar 07 14:26:09 <nanotube>	also, another option, mircea_popescu : set up an amazon ec instance. they give you unlimited BW, only care about disk and cpu usage.
Mar 07 14:26:18 <nanotube>	so if all it does is take requests and pass them on
Mar 07 14:26:27 <nanotube>	you don't have to pay
Mar 07 14:26:31 <nanotube>	(much)
Mar 07 14:26:38 <imsaguy>	the cpu can get costly if its being bogged
Mar 07 14:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube a coupla of the proxies were on amazon
Mar 07 14:26:45 <jurov>	amazon ec, exactly what i'm doing. cool shit.
Mar 07 14:26:58 <nanotube>	hmm
Mar 07 14:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	im too busy to investigate exactly wtf happned to them right now
Mar 07 14:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.51 = 9.69 BTC [+]
Mar 07 14:27:04 <nanotube>	heh ic
Mar 07 14:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	and not sure i actually care.
Mar 07 14:27:17 <nanotube>	anyway, imsaguy let know if you need help. :)
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Mar 07 14:29:50 <deadweasel>	mircea_popescu: keep your friends close...  might want to sort out who/what this was
Mar 07 14:29:55 <deadweasel>	help protectin the future.
Mar 07 14:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel nah, i literally do not care.
Mar 07 14:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	understand : this was planned for. sooner or later someone was going to attack mpex.
Mar 07 14:30:23 <deadweasel>	i can tell, fuckin' Rick James up in here
Mar 07 14:30:28 <deadweasel>	I'm Rich Bitch!
Mar 07 14:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	proving that mpex can't be effectually attacked is part of the game
Mar 07 14:30:34 <mircea_popescu>	the attackers are on our team here.
Mar 07 14:30:44 <jurov>	deadweasel, how would you do it? it can be half of btctalk
Mar 07 14:31:02 <jborkl>	Hell, anyone not expecting this attack at some point was not paying attention
Mar 07 14:31:19 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl the only disputer was, "will it be government or not"
Mar 07 14:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	turns out not. so... heh.
Mar 07 14:31:36 <deadweasel>	i don't know how to do it.
Mar 07 14:31:42 <deadweasel>	i probably wouldn't care either.
Mar 07 14:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	just the fact that traders could close > 50k btc worth of option positions normally whiole mpex was being ddosed to hell
Mar 07 14:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	already speaks volumes.
Mar 07 14:31:54 <jborkl>	yeah, a few months ago Bank of America got ddos for I think 3 days
Mar 07 14:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	that the bot later was w/o a feed cause mtgox went bananas is a diff story
Mar 07 14:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	but pain was avoided here.
Mar 07 14:32:13 <deadweasel>	it was interesting to watch people show up here, get a proxy addy, then go trade.
Mar 07 14:32:31 <deadweasel>	they were all jibberred up, then like, ok, i'm ok now.
Mar 07 14:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	cool, huh ?
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Mar 07 14:32:53 <jborkl>	this was a really good test for MPEX
Mar 07 14:32:54 <deadweasel>	very
Mar 07 14:33:11 <deadweasel>	there are no problems, only opportunities
Mar 07 14:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, sure, i'm not keeping 10k worth of pipe as a hot and ready to go backup, i admit
Mar 07 14:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand, i am getting it deployed, so.
Mar 07 14:33:41 <error4733>	mp, they ask something ?
Mar 07 14:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik.
Mar 07 14:35:26 <mjr_>	ugh, the discussion on the forums is so fucking silly
Mar 07 14:35:42 <mjr_>	its like they don't understand what "free market" means
Mar 07 14:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think they understand a lot of things tbh
Mar 07 14:36:19 <mjr_>	i literally saw someone say "sdice actually gets the gambler to pay MORE fees, they should be banned"
Mar 07 14:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	some people were on a kick of "bitbet should charge less"
Mar 07 14:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Mar 07 14:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	well... cause then it'd be less.
Mar 07 14:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	im like... yaok.
Mar 07 14:37:20 <jborkl>	99% of all people are retarded
Mar 07 14:37:25 <mjr_>	yes, because the miners should get less money? not to mention the fact that it's about people enjoying and using bitcoins...so you will take away a popular service to further your cause?
Mar 07 14:37:33 <mjr_>	fucking retarded
Mar 07 14:37:47 <jcpham>	somewhere between the two "e" in free market, there is tiny subscript begging for gubment oversight
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Mar 07 14:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, exciting stuff
Mar 07 14:38:22 <dub>	mjr_: they're probably arguing the wrong thing but factually SD using the blockchain for accountign is retarded
Mar 07 14:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	thy name be bitcoin
Mar 07 14:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	dub mpex uses the blockchain for accounting a different way.
Mar 07 14:38:51 <mjr_>	dub: if they include fees fuck what they use it for
Mar 07 14:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	this is what the blockchain is : accounting
Mar 07 14:38:54 <dub>	mjr_: sanest comparison I've seen was from this channel, imagine a casine where you had to cash out and back in after every bet
Mar 07 14:38:57 <mircea_popescu>	that's why it's called a ledger.
Mar 07 14:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	dub : accounts DO NOT WORK.
Mar 07 14:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	there is no such thing as "an account"
Mar 07 14:39:24 <mircea_popescu>	there is no such thing as "log in"
Mar 07 14:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	forget that braindamage.
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Mar 07 14:39:46 <mjr_>	yep it is only transactions
Mar 07 14:40:03 <mjr_>	although i can see your point about cashing in and out...
Mar 07 14:40:08 <mjr_>	and i think it is a good image
Mar 07 14:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	the reason you cash out after every bet is that there's no "you"
Mar 07 14:40:22 <mjr_>	i would think of it as...does the casino not calculate your payout after each hand?
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Mar 07 14:40:39 <mjr_>	you put money in, and then they push money back at you
Mar 07 14:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	thinking in terms of "you" and pretending to be involved in bitcoin is the ultimate lulz.
Mar 07 14:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	obviously it didn't sink in what bitcoin is.
Mar 07 14:41:44 <mjr_>	mircea: to be fair, i don't think that the protocol EXCLUDES the use of a layer on top of it that could replicate "accounts"...
Mar 07 14:41:45 <dub>	the blockchain is not intented for this level of nanotransactions
Mar 07 14:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ the protocol doesn't exclude it
Mar 07 14:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	but im motherfucking excluding it. it doesn't work.
Mar 07 14:42:10 <mjr_>	yes, that makes sense
Mar 07 14:42:14 <dub>	if you had to pay for every grain of rice you bought individually with a CC, amex would crumble too
Mar 07 14:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	dub this is great.
Mar 07 14:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	the day we go in the marketplace with a workable solution that would crtumble amex
Mar 07 14:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	is the day we see usd/satoshi rates quoted
Mar 07 14:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	instead of usd/btc
Mar 07 14:43:12 <jborkl>	Who said the blockchain is only for a certain transaction?
Mar 07 14:43:21 <mjr_>	dub: i feel that what they are saying is that "the blockchain shouldn't be used for individual grains of rice, so no rice for anyone"
Mar 07 14:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, who the fuck said what the blockchain is for ?
Mar 07 14:43:27 <jborkl>	who decided this nonsense
Mar 07 14:43:28 <dub>	jborkl: its design
Mar 07 14:43:30 <dub>	derp
Mar 07 14:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	the blockchain is for everything it works for.
Mar 07 14:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	as long as it's useful for something, that's what it's for.
Mar 07 14:43:39 <mjr_>	i agree
Mar 07 14:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	natural law.
Mar 07 14:43:46 <mjr_>	it is like the internet
Mar 07 14:43:47 <dub>	making it take up an unrealistic amount fo resource is goign to break it
Mar 07 14:44:01 <jborkl>	then those people will quit
Mar 07 14:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	dub the only thing that's going to break it is pseudo-governmental posturing.
Mar 07 14:44:03 <mjr_>	what is the internet "designed" for? so university professors could share scholarly work
Mar 07 14:44:06 <dub>	driving fees up to counter the problem is goign to kill adoption
Mar 07 14:44:20 <jcpham>	m/join #bitcoin
Mar 07 14:44:22 <mircea_popescu>	nobody has license to come out with the sort of bullshit "shoulds"
Mar 07 14:44:28 <jcpham>	FUDGEPACKER
Mar 07 14:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	the only shoulds here are the devs should stfu and fix bitcoind.
Mar 07 14:44:36 <dub>	mjr_: yes and 'the internet' has fundamentally changed a few times to cope with scaling
Mar 07 14:44:40 <mjr_>	i think that there is what IS...what the market has decided
Mar 07 14:44:48 <mjr_>	dub: as will bitcoin
Mar 07 14:44:57 <jborkl>	dub are you Luke? cause this sounds like his stupid logic
Mar 07 14:45:10 <dub>	jborkl: fuck you :)
Mar 07 14:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl i think he's trying to make sense of that position.
Mar 07 14:45:12 <mjr_>	think about it this way
Mar 07 14:45:15 <jborkl>	only biblethumperrs can use bitcoin
Mar 07 14:45:18 <jcpham>	pretty sure dub and Luke-Jr are same person
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Mar 07 14:45:24 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham troll.
Mar 07 14:45:27 <mjr_>	there is nothing stopping miners to band together and block whatever traffic they want to
Mar 07 14:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	you're grubles
Mar 07 14:45:42 <mjr_>	so if it is so important, they will
Mar 07 14:45:43 <jcpham>	how did you figure it out mircea_popescu
Mar 07 14:45:44 <dub>	mjr_: yes there is, economic incentive
Mar 07 14:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ and yet nobody mines at elegius
Mar 07 14:45:54 <jborkl>	lol
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Mar 07 14:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i looked in the colon
Mar 07 14:45:57 <mjr_>	LOL
Mar 07 14:46:06 <jborkl>	dead pool
Mar 07 14:46:07 <mjr_>	exactly, the free market has decided that sdice is a good thing
Mar 07 14:46:07 <jcpham>	rectal exam, eh
Mar 07 14:46:08 <mjr_>	so it is
Mar 07 14:46:18 <dub>	there is no such thing as free market
Mar 07 14:46:26 <mjr_>	there are all our individual choices
Mar 07 14:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	dub now there is.
Mar 07 14:46:29 <mjr_>	in aggregate
Mar 07 14:46:34 <jcpham>	implying no such thing as free will
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Mar 07 14:46:46 <dub>	to have a free market you need informed players
Mar 07 14:46:47 <mjr_>	the point is that no one can say "i want to shape the future of bitcoin"
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Mar 07 14:46:52 <mjr_>	no you don't
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Mar 07 14:47:02 <mjr_>	you just need players
Mar 07 14:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	sexy playas
Mar 07 14:47:14 <mjr_>	that is like saying "in natural selection you can only have fast deer"
Mar 07 14:47:16 <jborkl>	That is fucking stupid to say, you only need participants
Mar 07 14:47:23 <jcpham>	the only free market i know of is freicoin
Mar 07 14:47:23 <dub>	we know from the abject failure of capitalism that there are not enough informed players to make it work
Mar 07 14:47:30 <mjr_>	hmmm yes
Mar 07 14:47:31 <dub>	mining is the same
Mar 07 14:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	dub the only reason capitalism failed was because idiots with "should" abandoned it
Mar 07 14:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	to make "a better version"
Mar 07 14:47:45 <mjr_>	obviously america has not gotten a stranglehold over the world
Mar 07 14:47:50 <mjr_>	it hasn't worked for them AT ALL
Mar 07 14:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	the soviet union, the united soviets of america, the blabla
Mar 07 14:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	as long as people submit to natural law the take over the world.
Mar 07 14:48:08 <jborkl>	you cant inflate bitcon 10 million percent now can you
Mar 07 14:48:12 <dub>	mjr_: its not scaling
Mar 07 14:48:12 <jborkl>	bitcoin
Mar 07 14:48:13 <jcpham>	i'm pretty sure the united nations is an illuminati sect
Mar 07 14:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	as soon as they start thinking they know what *should* be what
Mar 07 14:48:15 <mjr_>	for anyone to say that the people who came up with this system didn't get what they want is retarded
Mar 07 14:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	... blamo
Mar 07 14:48:48 <mjr_>	that is the point, if what you think "should" happen, then if it really should, it will...if it shouldn't it won't
Mar 07 14:48:52 <jcpham>	Kim Dotcom is Satoshi Nakamoto in .... Point Break
Mar 07 14:49:03 <mjr_>	because if the majority agree...they do it, if they don't, you were wrong
Mar 07 14:49:11 <dub>	the majority don't agree
Mar 07 14:49:20 <dub>	the majority are not capable of participating
Mar 07 14:49:24 <jborkl>	the majority with money agree, the rest dont count
Mar 07 14:49:25 <mjr_>	um...the fact that sdice transactions are included begs to differ
Mar 07 14:49:27 <dub>	because they are stupid
Mar 07 14:49:37 <mjr_>	irrelevant
Mar 07 14:49:43 <dub>	the are included now sure
Mar 07 14:49:45 <mjr_>	they verify the transactions
Mar 07 14:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	<jborkl> the majority with money agree, the rest dont count << this guy is mircea_popescu
Mar 07 14:49:59 <mjr_>	so if the market decides to stop then they are right
Mar 07 14:50:17 <dub>	the market wont decide to stop because teh mining 'market' is not informed
Mar 07 14:50:22 <dub>	this has been shown plenty of times
Mar 07 14:50:26 <mjr_>	ok...so it is not important to them to stop this
Mar 07 14:50:32 <mjr_>	if it were
Mar 07 14:50:33 <dub>	it will take a technical probelm to change them
Mar 07 14:50:33 <mjr_>	they would
Mar 07 14:50:40 <dub>	which is hwat is happening
Mar 07 14:50:41 <mjr_>	ok, so let one come, and then they will adjust
Mar 07 14:50:47 <mjr_>	i see no problem
Mar 07 14:50:53 <mjr_>	transactions still working
Mar 07 14:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol the old holdout of marauding socialism
Mar 07 14:51:10 <dub>	sure if you accept that 6 confs doesnt take an hour anymore
Mar 07 14:51:14 <mircea_popescu>	"the poor aren't voting to steal from the rich because they've not been sufficiently explaining the benefits of theft"
Mar 07 14:51:18 <mjr_>	seriously, why does everyone feel the need to nurture something that is bigger than them and smarter
Mar 07 14:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	"we gotta go out there and really inform them"
Mar 07 14:51:23 <dub>	bitcoin adoption as a whole may not accept that
Mar 07 14:51:32 <jcpham>	is atlas in here right now
Mar 07 14:51:41 <jcpham>	is that what just happened
Mar 07 14:51:56 <mjr_>	my point is that everyone votes with their mining power
Mar 07 14:52:04 <dub>	were people asleep yesterday?
Mar 07 14:52:12 <dub>	did you notice it took all day to send coin?
Mar 07 14:52:16 <jborkl>	only one person filters SD transactions that I know of, and his pool is dying
Mar 07 14:52:27 <jcpham>	dub i got my txns in before noon central
Mar 07 14:52:28 <mjr_>	exactly
Mar 07 14:52:28 <jcpham>	no delays
Mar 07 14:52:33 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl to be fair, they've been fading for a while
Mar 07 14:52:37 <jborkl>	true
Mar 07 14:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	dub because of sdice ?
Mar 07 14:52:56 <jborkl>	His point of view caused that
Mar 07 14:53:00 <dub>	mircea_popescu: yes
Mar 07 14:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	oh get out
Mar 07 14:53:07 <mircea_popescu>	it was a small day for s.dice
Mar 07 14:53:22 <mircea_popescu>	this incidentallty shows clearly how misplaced all the sd trolling is.
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Mar 07 14:53:39 <dub>	mircea_popescu: they raised their fee, pushing all their usually slow confirming txn to the front of the queue
Mar 07 14:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	the network works fine with sd. what it doesn't work fine with is the appalingly poor quality of coding
Mar 07 14:53:45 <jborkl>	The new bitcoin client .8, uses all cpu cores correct- where .7 only used one?
Mar 07 14:53:57 <dub>	mircea_popescu: it was teh tipping point for block size limit
Mar 07 14:53:58 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl i think so
Mar 07 14:54:09 <jborkl>	so, as people upgrade clients- transactions get passed faster
Mar 07 14:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	dub for the arbitrarily stupid 250k block limit baked in
Mar 07 14:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	by the sort of idiots that also broke the way bitcoind creates txns
Mar 07 14:54:28 <dub>	ok so we're back to the scaling argument
Mar 07 14:54:30 <jborkl>	I changed my client to 500, it took like 5 seconds
Mar 07 14:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	basically, bitcoin needs actual devs.
Mar 07 14:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	no.
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Mar 07 14:54:47 <mircea_popescu>	most of the people who had bitcoin for no reason are out, thanks to pirate and the other scasmmers
Mar 07 14:54:53 <mjr__>	anyways, i just am tired of hearing about what people "should" do
Mar 07 14:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	the problem is most of the people who think they're devs for no reason aren;t out yet.
Mar 07 14:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	but it will filter out.
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Mar 07 14:55:21 <mircea_popescu>	people like gmaxwell, hearn, luke etc are just dead weight
Mar 07 14:55:23 <dub>	that is very much part of the problem
Mar 07 14:55:29 <mircea_popescu>	too stupid to realise how stupid they actually are
Mar 07 14:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	taaki is already gone,
Mar 07 14:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	they're next
Mar 07 14:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	and so it goes.
Mar 07 14:55:42 <mjr__>	i don't think they are stupid necessarily
Mar 07 14:55:44 <dub>	but is it easier to replace teh dev team or get SD to implement their own ledger
Mar 07 14:55:52 <mjr__>	i just think they are used to systems where they are in charge
Mar 07 14:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	dub you always remove the broken thing
Mar 07 14:56:00 <mircea_popescu>	you never fix the easy thing to "fix"
Mar 07 14:56:01 <dub>	bullshit
Mar 07 14:56:02 <jborkl>	you are trying to control one thing, what aboput the next thing
Mar 07 14:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's how it works.
Mar 07 14:56:10 <dub>	jesus
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Mar 07 14:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	dub there's no dealmaking here.
Mar 07 14:56:18 <dub>	that is laughable
Mar 07 14:56:20 <mircea_popescu>	if they suck they go
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Mar 07 14:56:58 <mjr__>	i am just saying, if you have the mining hardware, then your thoughts on this (actually your actions) may matter...no one else's opinion really does
Mar 07 14:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1596786#msg1596786
Mar 07 14:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov is rthat you ?
Mar 07 14:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	or do they mean me ?
Mar 07 15:00:19 <dub>	mjr__: I'm not suggesting miners will exclude SD
Mar 07 15:00:27 <mjr__>	i take it you don't like the Soft BP?
Mar 07 15:00:45 <mjr__>	I am just tired of hearing about how bad sdice is
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Mar 07 15:01:03 <mjr__>	let's see...provided successful model for crowdsourcing anonymously? check
Mar 07 15:01:13 <dub>	and romantic ideals aside, this is really just a question of, will the everyman use bitcoin if its p2p'ness goes away
Mar 07 15:01:23 <mjr__>	gave a lot of publicity to bitcoin? check
Mar 07 15:01:37 <mjr__>	brought in users? check
Mar 07 15:02:15 <dub>	personally I think the problem will be solved differently
Mar 07 15:02:33 <dub>	but there is a scaling problem due to SD, you can't argue against that
Mar 07 15:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	dub sd exposed bad coding in the bitcoin base.
Mar 07 15:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	i can agree with that much.
Mar 07 15:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	then again every practical use of prototype code will expose bad code
Mar 07 15:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	it's the fucking point
Mar 07 15:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	the idea is to take the correct dev attitude "o sorry we eat c0x. working to fix"
Mar 07 15:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	rather than the incorrect dev attitude of "so don't do that!"
Mar 07 15:03:49 <MobPhone>	burnside you around
Mar 07 15:04:40 <Lyspooner>	mpex.co is eating c0x, no?
Mar 07 15:05:12 *	fishfish is now known as fishfish|AFK
Mar 07 15:09:11 *	fishfish|AFK is now known as fishfish
Mar 07 15:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner yes.
Mar 07 15:09:48 <Lyspooner>	that's the attitude!
Mar 07 15:09:55 <mircea_popescu>	now where was that pastebin
Mar 07 15:10:00 <Lyspooner>	you see how it's done, people?
Mar 07 15:10:22 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner http://pastebin.com/8dWy851p
Mar 07 15:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	you missed out on all the fun
Mar 07 15:10:32 <mjr__>	oh nice
Mar 07 15:10:39 <mjr__>	mt gox finally got their websockets back up
Mar 07 15:10:57 <MobPhone>	! help
Mar 07 15:11:09 <MobPhone>	hmm
Mar 07 15:11:16 <mjr__>	no space mobphone
Mar 07 15:11:19 <MobPhone>	!help
Mar 07 15:11:20 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 07 15:11:21 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 07 15:11:45 <mjr__>	!ticker mpoe s.dice
Mar 07 15:11:46 <assbot>	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
Mar 07 15:11:46 <MobPhone>	!ticker mpex
Mar 07 15:11:47 <assbot>	These beans is shit.
Mar 07 15:12:11 <mjr__>	!ticker mpoe
Mar 07 15:12:12 <assbot>	You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship.
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Mar 07 15:12:20 <mjr__>	!ticker s.mpoe
Mar 07 15:12:21 <assbot>	Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
Mar 07 15:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	the correct syntax is !ticker m s.mpoe, but assbot is not talking to mpex atm.
Mar 07 15:12:33 <MobPhone>	!ticker havelock
Mar 07 15:12:34 <assbot>	Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
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Mar 07 15:12:50 <MobPhone>	hmm
Mar 07 15:12:51 <dub>	mircea_popescu: so in a free market world, you should be joining the foundation, lobbying for and funding your own devs to correct the problem
Mar 07 15:13:10 <mjr__>	if it was worth his time or if he found it worthwihle
Mar 07 15:13:17 <deadweasel>	so we all eat c0x and hence improve.
Mar 07 15:13:18 <MobPhone>	mjr__ hello
Mar 07 15:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/hUcC01nB here's a paste of the vwap page current
Mar 07 15:13:24 <dub>	its not like it would be unwelcome, gavin has tried to get rid of luke before
Mar 07 15:13:24 <mjr__>	that is the whole point of the free market, everyone does what they want
Mar 07 15:13:27 <FabianB>	finding good devs is not easy
Mar 07 15:13:30 <mircea_popescu>	dub i am not joinint no bs foundation.
Mar 07 15:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	i am telling the devs what things are
Mar 07 15:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	if they don't follow i'm going to start my own devteam and fork bitcoin.
Mar 07 15:14:06 <dub>	well do that then but its chosing the harder option
Mar 07 15:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	i like hard options.
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Mar 07 15:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	and this is not about me either
Mar 07 15:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	the miners, the larger ones anyway, will be starting their own clients
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Mar 07 15:15:47 <dub>	right, so much like we won't have teh market you percieve as free for much longer, bitcoin will stop working
Mar 07 15:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	maybe not this year, but the next or in 2015 for sure
Mar 07 15:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	it won't stop working.
Mar 07 15:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	it will stop caring about people's wishes tho.
Mar 07 15:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	to the degree that it does now, which is tenuous
Mar 07 15:16:21 <dub>	yes that is the opnly option
Mar 07 15:16:33 <dub>	stop carign about peoples wish for decentralisation and low fees
Mar 07 15:16:42 <mircea_popescu>	people's wish for low fees they can shove
Mar 07 15:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	fees will be exactly as high as the market will bear.
Mar 07 15:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	there's no room for the entitled poor in the new world.
Mar 07 15:17:01 <dub>	its still kinda one of teh selling points
Mar 07 15:17:30 <dub>	and with centralisation you extinguish the last facade of anonynimity
Mar 07 15:17:45 <dub>	so you're gettign back to being a credit card
Mar 07 15:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	and people thought stalin was hardline.
Mar 07 15:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	mircea_popescu. more hardline than stalin. just... the other direction.
Mar 07 15:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	dub anonimity is doing fine.
Mar 07 15:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	it never existed to begin with. pseudonimity however is just as 100% as it always was.
Mar 07 15:19:31 <dub>	we're not talkign about now
Mar 07 15:19:54 <mircea_popescu>	forever.
Mar 07 15:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	in my estimation, asic mining wll be a lot more decentralised than gpu mining
Mar 07 15:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	which was VERY centralised, but by idiots
Mar 07 15:21:06 <mircea_popescu>	people like gigavps, amazingrando, hashking et all had a disproportionate share of power in the ecosystem
Mar 07 15:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	which they went and fucked up.
Mar 07 15:21:27 <mircea_popescu>	it was based on the shaky foundation of marginal personal ability, cause running a gpu farm is a logistic nightmare.
Mar 07 15:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	it did use the cheap "anyone can run a gpu" fud tactic, but in fact it was as centralised as it can get.
Mar 07 15:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	anyone can run an asic. so... que the end of that system.
Mar 07 15:22:12 <dub>	its NO different
Mar 07 15:22:22 <mircea_popescu>	it's different in some ways at least.
Mar 07 15:22:46 <dub>	not once teh generational change has completed
Mar 07 15:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	it will be a case of "he who has 1000 bucks gets a vote"
Mar 07 15:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	instead of "he who has 200 dollars and spends his time f5-ing amazon and knows how to make fire hazard pics in his basement"
Mar 07 15:23:35 <mircea_popescu>	i much prefer the former. it's cleaner.
Mar 07 15:23:57 <dub>	im not following
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Mar 07 15:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	well... where ?
Mar 07 15:24:16 <dub>	you think mining will be more distributed with higher cost to play?
Mar 07 15:24:26 <dub>	or more solo miners?
Mar 07 15:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	there will be a SMALLER cost to play.
Mar 07 15:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	it will however be cash upfront.
Mar 07 15:24:53 <dub>	mining has been centralised since pools appeared
Mar 07 15:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	before the cost to play was, 200 bucks + 5k worth of computer competence.
Mar 07 15:25:01 <mircea_popescu>	now it's 1k bucks and a power outlet.
Mar 07 15:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	overall cost went down by 80%
Mar 07 15:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's just some people don't know how to account, and so the 5k "is free"
Mar 07 15:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	but let me put it this other way :
Mar 07 15:26:08 <mircea_popescu>	there are at least 100mn people in this world who can spend 1k dollars.
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Mar 07 15:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	there are MAYBE 1mn people in this world who have the skills to run gpu rigs but do not have gainful employment
Mar 07 15:26:31 <miscreanity>	asics are plug and play - gpus required a considerable amount of experise and se to manage
Mar 07 15:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	unsuirprisingly, they;'re mostly mental deffecrtive / weird / marginal doods.
Mar 07 15:26:47 <dub>	bullshit
Mar 07 15:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	so our miner putative market increased by a factor of 10k%
Mar 07 15:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub hey, it may well be bullshit
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Mar 07 15:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	but it's what i think on the matter.
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Mar 07 15:28:29 <deadweasel>	I think we can all agree that the continued eating of c0x by all users/miners/devs will improve bitcoin or it's bastard children.
Mar 07 15:28:37 <dub>	it sounds like youa re arguing that like gamers mining on their 1-2 gpus, a lot of randoms will decide to grab an asic and mine
Mar 07 15:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets
Mar 07 15:28:40 <deadweasel>	*its
Mar 07 15:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	 do these graphs look right to anyone ?!
Mar 07 15:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	dub no.
Mar 07 15:29:15 <dub>	reality is asic mining will centralise much more than gpu mining did
Mar 07 15:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	i am arguing that for every wanna-break the world kid / bank clerk who thinks he's a banker / duimbass kid who thinks writing "options" on a webpage makes him an options trader
Mar 07 15:29:31 <jurov>	bitcoinity workd
Mar 07 15:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	that get pushed our mercilessly
Mar 07 15:29:36 <jurov>	*works here
Mar 07 15:29:37 <mircea_popescu>	there will be 10 to 100 actual sane people
Mar 07 15:29:46 <dub>	as soon as diff normalises its the same game
Mar 07 15:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	dub no because the cost to be the top dog will have went from own 500 items worth 200 each
Mar 07 15:30:08 <dub>	either eek out a tiny margin on your gaming rig/hobby asic or go large
Mar 07 15:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	to own 50`000 items worth 1k each
Mar 07 15:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	so from 100k to 50mn
Mar 07 15:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it does work, but the graph looks like wtf.
Mar 07 15:30:33 <jborkl>	instead of "he who has 200 dollars and spends his time f5-ing amazon and knows how to make fire hazard pics in his basement <LOL
Mar 07 15:31:21 <jurov>	yes the debpth (bottom graph) is wtf in firefox. but in konqueror+webkit it's fine
Mar 07 15:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	and if you think people won't be buying asics at 1k a pop, let me tell you something :
Mar 07 15:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	when that hungarian scammer showed up it he was checked out the next day
Mar 07 15:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	by independent teams.
Mar 07 15:32:46 <mircea_popescu>	there is demand. come out with an inventory of asics you will sell 10-100k units in a month if you can actuyally deliver them.
Mar 07 15:32:49 <ZedsterX>	;;burnside
Mar 07 15:32:49 <gribble>	Error: "burnside" is not a valid command.
Mar 07 15:32:57 <ZedsterX>	;;seen burnside
Mar 07 15:32:57 <gribble>	burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 22 hours, and 30 seconds ago: <burnside> I don't think so.
Mar 07 15:33:16 <dub>	mircea_popescu: exactly the same thing will happen as happened with gpu
Mar 07 15:34:20 <ZedsterX>	i have been given a free scam lightning miner 4.0 unit
Mar 07 15:34:21 <jborkl>	people that know what to do with them made money?
Mar 07 15:34:27 <dub>	when people get sick of the heat, noise and earning $2/week they will get out
Mar 07 15:35:02 <dub>	which will leave people who are doign ot as a business
Mar 07 15:35:32 <kakobrekla>	funny, 100mhash revenue in euro dollars is same as 1 year ago give or take
Mar 07 15:35:33 <kakobrekla>	http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php
Mar 07 15:36:05 <dub>	sure for 10 minutes
Mar 07 15:36:26 <ThickAsThieves>	what a captivating update... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1597133#msg1597133
Mar 07 15:36:45 <deadweasel>	                           https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1597133#msg1597133
Mar 07 15:36:51 <deadweasel>	sry
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Mar 07 15:39:01 <dub>	<mircea_popescu> when that hungarian scammer showed up it he was checked out the next day
Mar 07 15:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves does that say anything ?!
Mar 07 15:39:13 <jcpham>	i've been debating whether or not to run more gpu/more fpga every day
Mar 07 15:39:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i cant tell
Mar 07 15:39:15 <dub>	I don't need to tell you that the only people who checked it out are serious miners
Mar 07 15:39:26 <jcpham>	i'd really like to acquire 3x singles
Mar 07 15:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	you do need to tell me that so i can lol.
Mar 07 15:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	i had it checked out dood. im no miner at all.
Mar 07 15:40:00 <dub>	a few extra mindless forum babies does not a decentralised verification network make
Mar 07 15:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	think about it : i am going to get a mining cluster which i will run for purely strategic reasons
Mar 07 15:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	mpex needs assurance that idiots like luke-jr stay irrelevant.
Mar 07 15:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	so will pretty much every single service built on top of bitcoin
Mar 07 15:40:54 <dub>	stop being trite
Mar 07 15:40:55 <mircea_popescu>	then add the pro miners
Mar 07 15:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.45 = 7.25 BTC [+]
Mar 07 15:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	then add all the people who want to run a 1k unit
Mar 07 15:41:06 <dub>	if you got into mining you it would not be with one asic
Mar 07 15:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	dub i can calculate how many asics i need to have in order to guarantee my payments make it witin an arbitrary timeframe
Mar 07 15:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	this is basic provisioning.
Mar 07 15:41:46 <dub>	yes which is beyond 90% of would be miners
Mar 07 15:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Mar 07 15:41:58 <jcpham>	strategic mining is a subject i like
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Mar 07 15:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i bet you in 2013 we will have special mining software allowing miner to issue orders much like ip routing tables
Mar 07 15:42:21 <ThickAsThieves>	what is even being argued here?
Mar 07 15:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	"always include my txs, irrespective of fee"
Mar 07 15:42:29 <ThickAsThieves>	whether there will be more and more prosumer miners?
Mar 07 15:42:32 <jcpham>	hrm
Mar 07 15:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	"always include txs to these addies, if fee is x"
Mar 07 15:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Mar 07 15:43:07 <mircea_popescu>	there will be a dedicated box preparing the mempool for mine rigs in most farms
Mar 07 15:43:23 <dub>	so every bitcoin merchant has a mining farm to confirm its txn
Mar 07 15:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	dub yep.
Mar 07 15:43:33 <dub>	hell, why not an altchain each
Mar 07 15:43:35 <jcpham>	jeebus
Mar 07 15:43:44 <jcpham>	i'm getting hella paid leasing my rigs then
Mar 07 15:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	dub if bitcoin fucks up you  bet your sweet life an altchain each.
Mar 07 15:44:00 <jcpham>	mining cooperatives are an excellent idea
Mar 07 15:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	the girl hinted as much at some point arguing with the hearn&co idiot parade.
Mar 07 15:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham a revenue stream will be table leasing
Mar 07 15:44:18 <jcpham>	even though everyone hates on it
Mar 07 15:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	people will pay you to include their rules.
Mar 07 15:44:42 <mircea_popescu>	soon enough there will be a market for mempool gatway rules.
Mar 07 15:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	talk about driving innovation.
Mar 07 15:45:01 <mjr__>	yep
Mar 07 15:45:23 <dub>	yeah, you just invented fiat
Mar 07 15:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	suddenly yet another reason for 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx emerges.
Mar 07 15:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	it will be a LOT easier to handle those issues with fixed addies
Mar 07 15:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	sdice has an advantage too.
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Mar 07 15:47:26 <dub>	you realise that your anonymity model is bunk when you only connect to nodes you transact with
Mar 07 15:48:22 <BingoBongo>	So this got Hearn's panties in a bunch even though he does so much work with SPV clients?
Mar 07 15:49:14 <mjr__>	mircea, how can i get quotes right now?
Mar 07 15:50:38 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__ right now you can't. what are you trying to do ?
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Mar 07 15:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	dub i am not interested in being anon.
Mar 07 15:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	obviously other people will implement other models.
Mar 07 16:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 1.45 = 29 BTC [+]
Mar 07 16:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo i dunno what his problem was.
Mar 07 16:04:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
Mar 07 16:04:45 <BingoBongo>	Too soft for the interwebz maybe?
Mar 07 16:05:04 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
Mar 07 16:06:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.45 = 2.9 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 16:07:05 <BingoBongo>	I could see getting pissed about colored coins or the dude who put and MP3 on testnet trying that on the real blockchain, but miners filtering transactions? Gavin reccommends conf settings for miners.
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Mar 07 16:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo o, no, no. the argument was about hm
Mar 07 16:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck was it about
Mar 07 16:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	o yes, i think he wanted increased block size.
Mar 07 16:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	and honestly i think colored coins are a horrible nonstarter. i can only imagine the sort of crap that'd occur if they caught on
Mar 07 16:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.45 = 8.7 BTC [+]
Mar 07 16:10:12 <mircea_popescu>	and there'd be satoshi's running around everywhere
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Mar 07 16:10:27 <mjr__>	mircea: just wanted to see where my positions were at
Mar 07 16:10:32 <mjr__>	no big deal
Mar 07 16:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__ trade is practgically frozen so nothing much would have changed.
Mar 07 16:10:53 <mjr__>	cool
Mar 07 16:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	that;s kinda it, i could have come up with a pure vpn solution
Mar 07 16:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	and only allow trusted people on the network to talk to the exchange
Mar 07 16:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	(which incidentally is how things work irl )
Mar 07 16:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	however, i judged that'd create a haves/havesnot disparity that's both huge and sudden
Mar 07 16:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	better and fairer just freeze things for a little bit.
Mar 07 16:14:12 <mjr__>	i agree
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Mar 07 16:15:14 <mjr__>	i like the protected message open channel
Mar 07 16:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	but to expand on the plan : as an absolute rock bottom if things can't be otherwise resolved within a week, i will publish a gmail address, and trade will work via email (you email your paste instead of putting into site, you get it back)
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Mar 07 16:15:54 <mjr__>	out of curiosity and i haven't really thought this all the way through
Mar 07 16:15:56 <mircea_popescu>	as a relative rock bottom, if things can't be otherwise resolved within a couple of days i will have a vpn installed. this has the disadvantage that it puts the brokers in an iffy spot
Mar 07 16:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.55 = 3.1 BTC [+]
Mar 07 16:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	also, we are currently working on using irc bot much like gribble works. there should be one up soon and another during weekend.
Mar 07 16:16:32 <mjr__>	would a recaptcha and session timeout not solve most of it?
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Mar 07 16:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	and also, much larger infrastructure should be coming online during the 8th.
Mar 07 16:16:43 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__ nope.
Mar 07 16:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	it would solve nothing at all. routers are getting friend, not boxes.
Mar 07 16:17:00 <mjr__>	oh ok
Mar 07 16:17:02 <mjr__>	true
Mar 07 16:17:31 <mjr__>	and i'm sure that they are randomizing the addresses enough to bypass any sort of blacklist rirght?
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Mar 07 16:17:50 <mjr__>	and CDN couldn't fix either?
Mar 07 16:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	cdn doesn't do this. there are ddos protection services out there, but all have their own issues
Mar 07 16:18:13 <mjr__>	i'm sure you have thought this through
Mar 07 16:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	it's a long story.
Mar 07 16:18:18 <mjr__>	yeah
Mar 07 16:18:24 <mjr__>	i was just curious for my own benefit
Mar 07 16:18:29 <mjr__>	as to how one combats this
Mar 07 16:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	well, for your own benefit :
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Mar 07 16:18:40 <mjr__>	i'm really fine regardless
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Mar 07 16:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	cloudflare is very cheap (like200 a month) but it's mostly intended for random kid dickery.
Mar 07 16:18:46 <mjr__>	buy and hold
Mar 07 16:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is not what we're dealing with here.
Mar 07 16:19:01 <mjr__>	yeah lol;
Mar 07 16:19:05 <mjr__>	this is quite sustained
Mar 07 16:19:15 <BingoBongo>	Cloudflare goes down enough on its own
Mar 07 16:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	blacklotus is expensive, and i have yet to locate anyone that can give me the straight dope about what they actually do./
Mar 07 16:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	incapsula is sorta like more of a midmarket thing
Mar 07 16:19:59 <mjr__>	hmmm, and since it is routers not boxes, proxies won't really help?
Mar 07 16:20:25 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__ proxies help in the exact sort of way i had it set-up : open web proxy which connects on a sort of private vpn to mpex webservers
Mar 07 16:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	but the thing is, they actually took the time to blow up all these.
Mar 07 16:20:41 <mjr__>	hmmm, i have a little idea
Mar 07 16:20:51 <mjr__>	but it is rough
Mar 07 16:21:09 <mjr__>	and would depend on what router capabilities
Mar 07 16:21:19 <mjr__>	and whether you have control/access to it
Mar 07 16:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	hm ?
Mar 07 16:21:30 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 07 16:21:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.72301, Best ask: 42.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11699, Last trade: 42.72301, 24 hour volume: 162226.99314014, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 46.74900, 24 hour vwap: 41.19641
Mar 07 16:21:39 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
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Mar 07 16:21:52 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what is the OIX
Mar 07 16:22:01 <assbot>	It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money.
Mar 07 16:22:04 <mjr__>	i'm wondering if you could basically require a signed message in the http header request to get to the webserver
Mar 07 16:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__ the ddos is not actually containing headers.
Mar 07 16:22:23 <mjr__>	ie. the router would drop all traffic that did not contain the signed header
Mar 07 16:22:28 <mjr__>	damn UTP shit?
Mar 07 16:22:33 <mjr__>	UDP
Mar 07 16:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	a complete mess and mix.
Mar 07 16:22:36 <mjr__>	typo lol
Mar 07 16:22:45 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller it's the options sentiment index.
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Mar 07 16:26:19 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I meant what is it currently atm
Mar 07 16:26:24 <thestringpuller>	SINCE YOU HAVEN'T FIXED MPEX
Mar 07 16:26:28 <thestringpuller>	stop making people angry at you
Mar 07 16:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	lemme see
Mar 07 16:27:01 <Lyspooner>	my sentiment is that the options aren't there right now
Mar 07 16:27:06 <mjr__>	hmm couldn't you conceivably use QoS to give http traffic priority on the router
Mar 07 16:27:24 <dub>	not if the router is on fire
Mar 07 16:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	{"avg": "4713745617","min": "3024713516","max": "4853472885","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.62504497419E+12","cnt": ""}
Mar 07 16:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__ understand, the box was doing something like 0.07 load all through the ddos.
Mar 07 16:28:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's not the server at all.
Mar 07 16:28:20 <thestringpuller>	damn
Mar 07 16:28:27 <thestringpuller>	option index is still bullish on the current price
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Mar 07 16:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	well yeah, because
Mar 07 16:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	a. a lot of calls closed up past 24 hours. those don't count.
Mar 07 16:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	b. a lot of longass short puts were closed, which does count
Mar 07 16:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	but it counts from way up, so it makes the put side kinda high too
Mar 07 16:29:24 <Lyspooner>	yowch
Mar 07 16:29:38 <thestringpuller>	I hope MPOE-bot is holding it together...
Mar 07 16:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	i mean put side is up to 30, from like 22 earlier
Mar 07 16:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe bot is like... wtf did everyone go ?
Mar 07 16:29:57 <mircea_popescu>	getting depressed and loneyl.
Mar 07 16:30:58 <BingoBongo>	Mircea, maybe you should tweet @binarybits about this interesting bitcoin story he could run on Ars... Any publicity is good publicity...
Mar 07 16:31:48 <dub>	im not sure 'we had to close doors due to ddos' is great publicity
Mar 07 16:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 16:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	anything can be turned into great publicity.
Mar 07 16:32:29 <dub>	and singing of imminent mitigation may be premature
Mar 07 16:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	your wife's a whore ? well... at least she's hawt.
Mar 07 16:32:46 <BingoBongo>	Gox is alive after all of those Haxxed stories
Mar 07 16:33:01 <mircea_popescu>	i think there's enough presence to keep the stakeholders appraised.
Mar 07 16:33:01 <dub>	gox is alive because nobody has mannned up to replace it
Mar 07 16:33:06 <jcpham>	send a cryptic email explaining how the hot wallet backup was unencrypted and accesible via telnet
Mar 07 16:33:08 <dub>	nobody is a willing user of gox
Mar 07 16:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	other than that... heh.
Mar 07 16:34:18 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i think someone might have noticed that mpex didn't answer on 23
Mar 07 16:34:23 <mircea_popescu>	or wait, was 23 ftp ?
Mar 07 16:34:44 <jurov>	no, telnet iirc
Mar 07 16:34:45 <jcpham>	jokes
Mar 07 16:35:06 <jcpham>	you should make aup along crytpic convoluted story
Mar 07 16:35:14 <jborkl>	rackspace?
Mar 07 16:35:17 <jcpham>	involving backups and password in source codes
Mar 07 16:35:23 <jurov>	and vampires
Mar 07 16:35:23 <jcpham>	secret agents
Mar 07 16:35:28 <jcpham>	mos def vampires
Mar 07 16:36:02 <jcpham>	make the story long enough and people will stop caring about halfway through reading
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Mar 07 16:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	maybe mpoe-pr could be a vamp
Mar 07 16:36:09 <jcpham>	they'll just figure it's another scam
Mar 07 16:36:09 <mircea_popescu>	ire
Mar 07 16:36:34 <dub>	you could use nntp tbh
Mar 07 16:36:36 <jcpham>	then add the word "Psyche" at the end.
Mar 07 16:36:58 <jurov>	http://live.coinbr.com/ THE SHOW MUST GO ON
Mar 07 16:37:03 <mircea_popescu>	dub i was more considering that guy's bitmessage p2p thing
Mar 07 16:37:15 <dub>	google groups can probably take teh dos
Mar 07 16:40:50 <dub>	heh, I've been ddos'd ~700 times in teh last month
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Mar 07 16:41:22 <dub>	acording to arbor anyway, I don't recall noticing any of them
Mar 07 16:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, they gotta sell themselves somehow.
Mar 07 16:42:12 <dub>	yep
Mar 07 16:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	that's kind of the problem, very chinese market out there. "yes sir i tell you we do ddosprotection"
Mar 07 16:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	"o wait, you mean ddos as in, 6-7 gb sustained with 20gb peaks ?! OMG TAKE A HIKE"
Mar 07 16:42:32 <dub>	its a racket for sure
Mar 07 16:45:16 <Lyspooner>	http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html
Mar 07 16:47:28 <mircea_popescu>	Visa processed 37 billion
Mar 07 16:47:28 <mircea_popescu>	transactions in FY2008
Mar 07 16:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	afaik that number is off
Mar 07 16:47:38 <mircea_popescu>	more like 3.7
Mar 07 16:48:58 <Lyspooner>	well at least satoshi was considering very big block sizes
Mar 07 16:49:25 <Lyspooner>	and specialized mining hardware
Mar 07 16:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	If a small number of entities are issuing new coins,
Mar 07 16:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	this is more resistant to state attack that with a
Mar 07 16:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	single issuer, but the government regularly attacks
Mar 07 16:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	financial networks, with the financial collapse ensuing
Mar 07 16:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	from the most recent attack still under way as I write
Mar 07 16:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	this.
Mar 07 16:49:46 <mircea_popescu>	Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in
Mar 07 16:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil
Mar 07 16:49:51 <mircea_popescu>	financial network is bigger than the honest financial
Mar 07 16:49:54 <mircea_popescu>	network, with the result that even though everyone knows
Mar 07 16:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	what is happening, people continue to use the paper
Mar 07 16:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	issued by the evil financial network, because of network
Mar 07 16:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use
Mar 07 16:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	if you want to do business.
Mar 07 16:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	that guy is smart.
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Mar 07 16:51:24 <mod6>	;;calc 3700000000/365
Mar 07 16:51:25 <gribble>	10136986.3014
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Mar 07 16:52:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 07 16:52:35 <mod6>	so ~10 million
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Mar 07 16:53:08 <thestringpuller>	mod6, side bar
Mar 07 16:53:12 <mod6>	http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-total << says we're between 12-14m per day
Mar 07 16:53:33 *	mod6 ponders
Mar 07 16:54:02 <Lyspooner>	*not per day
Mar 07 16:54:05 <Lyspooner>	*per ever
Mar 07 16:54:44 <Lyspooner>	mod6, you're looking for this? http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions
Mar 07 16:55:11 <mod6>	oh my bad
Mar 07 16:55:42 <Lyspooner>	we're like Visa transactions in Kansas City
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Mar 07 16:55:57 <mod6>	that seems much more realistic.
Mar 07 16:56:04 <mod6>	i should have examined that closer
Mar 07 16:56:04 <jborkl>	Mp, what about using bitcoin to send the trade message to your address. cant ddos the entire network, put the encypted message inside a signed transactions- use it just like SD does
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Mar 07 16:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl " cant ddos the entire network" << o but they can.
Mar 07 16:56:45 <jborkl>	well, it would be much harder
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Mar 07 16:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	it would be painful, especially if they go after nodes one at a time
Mar 07 16:57:08 <dub>	yeah, tell that to dalnet
Mar 07 16:57:26 <jborkl>	yes, if they tracked your first relay and knocked it off, then next one
Mar 07 16:57:53 <jborkl>	but you can change your relay in bitcoind easily
Mar 07 16:57:55 <dub>	but I support this move, if only to see the rage from Luke-Jr
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Mar 07 16:58:37 <jborkl>	and you could build trusted relay nodes to push transactions
Mar 07 16:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	dub i could start with his relays lol
Mar 07 16:58:57 <jborkl>	lol, that would piss him off so bad
Mar 07 16:59:00 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl what i'd do is cause a lot of grief to people otherwise ill equipped to cope.
Mar 07 16:59:02 <jborkl>	it would be worth it
Mar 07 16:59:17 <jborkl>	ok, fair enough
Mar 07 16:59:29 <mircea_popescu>	im not here to cause trouble, contrary to what you might have heard.
Mar 07 16:59:36 <mircea_popescu>	i'll be bringing more capacity online and that's that.
Mar 07 16:59:41 <jborkl>	I don't think you are
Mar 07 16:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	was just being facetious hehe
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Mar 07 17:01:54 <BingoBongo>	I heard PrimeAsic, that 99% chance of scam is responsive to inquiries again...
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Mar 07 17:02:38 <jborkl>	If you were a asshole scammer, you would probably run off with Nefario, Piratits, and the list goes on. I am not concerned if you are a asshole, that is not my problem
Mar 07 17:03:00 <jborkl>	:)
Mar 07 17:03:42 <jborkl>	people seem to get confused, you are one of the only ones that has not run away, yet they accuse you all the time
Mar 07 17:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 07 17:04:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43500001 BTC [-]
Mar 07 17:04:12 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo i kinda stopped following
Mar 07 17:04:24 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... this is vegas. you get a chance.
Mar 07 17:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl sometimes people say the things they most fear. it's a defense mechanism.
Mar 07 17:05:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.65 = 13 BTC [-]
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Mar 07 17:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43500001 BTC [-]
Mar 07 17:09:10 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 07 17:09:14 <thestringpuller>	dude seriously
Mar 07 17:09:23 <thestringpuller>	MIRCEA FIX THIS
Mar 07 17:09:31 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Mar 07 17:09:46 <thestringpuller>	This is what you get for making people mad.
Mar 07 17:10:08 <dub>	fix what?
Mar 07 17:10:38 <dub>	http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif this is possibly the most useful gif ever
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Mar 07 17:12:19 <thestringpuller>	dub you rule sometimes
Mar 07 17:12:22 <thestringpuller>	just wow
Mar 07 17:13:20 <dub>	I can't take credit its from the forum
Mar 07 17:14:23 <BingoBongo>	Eh, I figured PrimeAsic blew their chance earlier this week. I'm having trouble figuring out if they are a well planned scam, troll, or both.
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Mar 07 17:17:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 17:19:16 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Is mpex.co down?
Mar 07 17:19:30 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Err... /topic. Sorry. :)
Mar 07 17:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu you've missed out on an entire saga.
Mar 07 17:20:20 <jborkl>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 1000 BTC [+]
Mar 07 17:20:45 <jurov>	bitvps gets 2nd round
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Mar 07 17:21:28 <jurov>	poor jcpham
Mar 07 17:21:31 <mircea_popescu>	jurov what's that mean ?
Mar 07 17:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl lol you gave me a start.
Mar 07 17:21:44 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Nothing important, I just wanted to peek at the options prices. Placing my overnight orders on mtgox...
Mar 07 17:21:44 <jborkl>	Lol
Mar 07 17:21:59 <mircea_popescu>	Eduard_Munteanu mostly the open interest covered yest.
Mar 07 17:22:10 <jborkl>	I should have /nick but I didnt want people to really have a heart attack
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Mar 07 17:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoinity dead again ? ;/
Mar 07 17:22:20 <jurov>	we were making my vps accessible under another addy, suddenly mgmt froze again
Mar 07 17:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 17:22:33 <Eduard_Munteanu>	bitcoincharts.com is dead as well. :(
Mar 07 17:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	oix : "7d": {"avg": "4713745617","min": "3024713516","max": "4853472885","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.62504497419E+12","cnt": ""}
Mar 07 17:23:13 <jurov>	it works here
Mar 07 17:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	it's relatively stale tho.
Mar 07 17:23:30 <Eduard_Munteanu>	jurov: can you see any chart here? http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/
Mar 07 17:23:55 <jurov>	yes, dispalyes quickly
Mar 07 17:23:57 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Only the top ribbon on that page loads.
Mar 07 17:24:01 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Hm.
Mar 07 17:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	i cant see it either
Mar 07 17:24:34 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Some #mtgox op told me they've banned most of my provider (RDS).
Mar 07 17:24:44 <mircea_popescu>	heh
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Mar 07 17:24:54 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I should probably switch to IPv6 or get a static address.
Mar 07 17:25:19 <Eduard_Munteanu>	The former sounds like a better idea.
Mar 07 17:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	i think more than just mpex, tis a test for bitcoins in general.
Mar 07 17:25:34 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Yeah.
Mar 07 17:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much every service is getting hit someway
Mar 07 17:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	the network itself was struggling with txs yest
Mar 07 17:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	growth pains.
Mar 07 17:26:23 <thestringpuller>	blockchain.info is down
Mar 07 17:26:37 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Also, all those chart / live data services merely do client-side lookups through the mtgox API, it seems. Instead of caching and relaying data.
Mar 07 17:26:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24999 BTC [+]
Mar 07 17:26:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.24999 = 0.5 BTC [+]
Mar 07 17:27:18 <Eduard_Munteanu>	I guess mtgox is suddenly getting DDoSed by that, not to mention the actual transactions.
Mar 07 17:27:35 <jurov>	blockchain up here
Mar 07 17:28:19 <Eduard_Munteanu>	Oh, well, I've placed my orders for the night, pretty conservative.
Mar 07 17:28:27 <mircea_popescu>	live data would not cache by the definition of the term
Mar 07 17:28:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Mar 07 17:32:54 <FabianB>	;;tslb
Mar 07 17:32:58 <gribble>	Time since last block: 36 minutes and 4 seconds
Mar 07 17:33:41 <kakobrekla>	prime asic broke ze chain
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Mar 07 17:38:55 <mircea_popescu>	dude again over half hour ?!
Mar 07 17:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	this is atrocious.
Mar 07 17:39:12 <kakobrekla>	smpake would be useful.
Mar 07 17:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	yest i had txs lay stale for > 6 hours before being included in a block.
Mar 07 17:39:19 <BingoBongo>	Pools getting attacked?
Mar 07 17:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	and im not exactly talking 10 bitcoins here
Mar 07 17:39:35 <kakobrekla>	it was 11.
Mar 07 17:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	people were liek "o, your bitcoind is ddosed too ?" and i was like no dude, the tx is out since noon '/
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Mar 07 17:40:47 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 07 17:40:53 <kakobrekla>	paypal looks nice again
Mar 07 17:41:07 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 07 17:41:50 <benkay>	same question as BingoBongo: are pools being ddosed as well?
Mar 07 17:42:32 <thestringpuller>	http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif
Mar 07 17:42:59 <jurov>	so, phungus from bitvps blames me and he won't enable my vps access anymore
Mar 07 17:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 17:43:14 <jurov>	best time to withdraw everything and leave
Mar 07 17:43:21 <jurov>	mircea_popescu , will you let me?
Mar 07 17:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	let you what ?
Mar 07 17:43:35 <thestringpuller>	coinbr is down?
Mar 07 17:43:41 <jurov>	sell&withdraw everything from coinbr acct
Mar 07 17:43:55 <jurov>	and blame bitvps
Mar 07 17:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	yes, but you have to consider if you sell right now you're hurting customers.
Mar 07 17:44:13 <mircea_popescu>	not sure what consolation blaming bitvps will be.
Mar 07 17:44:50 <jurov>	you didn't understand me.. i can now vanish with all customers funds
Mar 07 17:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, par for the course for "hosting" out there : sure we can do it sir! o you mean things actually need to be done ? sorry, pls go to somewhere else.
Mar 07 17:45:01 <jurov>	as so many ppl did
Mar 07 17:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	if you ask them they're hosting corps, offer things like unlimited bw.
Mar 07 17:45:18 <mircea_popescu>	tghen if you serve 500 pages in a day it's suddenly... we're only hosters if you don't get traffic.
Mar 07 17:46:03 <jurov>	and if you attract ddos, you must apologize.
Mar 07 17:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, their upstream/colo host prolly told them to not do it again or else get a real connection
Mar 07 17:47:44 <jurov>	but yeah, I do have recent enough coinbr backups and am not running away.
Mar 07 17:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	good.
Mar 07 17:47:55 <jurov>	dunno if i should make me killer coffee and set it up or it can wait till tomorrow
Mar 07 17:48:06 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, how it looks on your side?
Mar 07 17:48:07 <mircea_popescu>	i think it can wait till tomorrow.
Mar 07 17:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	should be getting everything online today technically since it's almost 1am
Mar 07 17:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	but maybe get an account with a good ddos protected host.
Mar 07 17:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	because i tell you something, when they won't be able to take me down they'll harass you
Mar 07 17:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	and you have a much larger userbase crossection, you'll read plenty of shit in the forum
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Mar 07 17:50:17 <jurov>	i know... hope i bought some time with amazon, plan to set up some load balancing there quickly
Mar 07 17:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	prolly your best path of action on a personal level is
Mar 07 17:51:34 <mircea_popescu>	get some sleep now
Mar 07 17:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	wake naturally
Mar 07 17:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	deal with it then
Mar 07 17:51:55 <jurov>	heh okay.. if i manage to get asleep
Mar 07 17:52:57 <PsychoticBoy>	today is a joyfull day, I bought a new car with bitcoin (sold bitcoin for euro)
Mar 07 17:53:16 <Anduck>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 07 17:53:37 <assbot>	Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
Mar 07 17:53:43 <PsychoticBoy>	my new subaru Impreza wrx is standing at my carport
Mar 07 17:53:56 <jborkl>	Mp or Jurov - are there a bunch of pending market orders to fill?
Mar 07 17:54:23 <jurov>	no, they are filled normally - see live.coinbr.com
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Mar 07 17:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl nope.
Mar 07 17:55:07 <jborkl>	good
Mar 07 17:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	today is mpex sunday :D
Mar 07 17:56:22 <jborkl>	all of the coinbr are down for me and have been
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Mar 07 17:57:28 <jurov>	jborkl, prolly stale DNS entries
Mar 07 17:58:17 <jurov>	same problem here, my isp insists caching them, had to change dns server
Mar 07 17:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	page hangs for me atm
Mar 07 17:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	but it does find your domain/favicon
Mar 07 17:59:55 <jurov>	http://coinbr.com should work at least, https is not set up yet so it fails
Mar 07 18:00:23 <jurov>	and mpex. and live. did not have dns expiration so they linger up pointing to bitvps
Mar 07 18:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	ah i c
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Mar 07 18:05:14 <BingoBongo>	224744 	2 minutes	 443 	 25.33651677 BTC 	 Deepbit 	 249kb; 224743 	4 minutes	 581 	 25.48650003 BTC 	 199.101.100.218 	 243kb
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Mar 07 18:05:29 <BingoBongo>	Interesting last couple blocks
Mar 07 18:06:04 <BingoBongo>	Barely more than the block reward in transactions and nearly a quarter megabyte each
Mar 07 18:06:49 <mircea_popescu>	indeed
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Mar 07 18:11:05 *	smickles brags about selling a significant portion of his btc at 49.2 then buying it back at 33.98
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Mar 07 18:12:00 *	smickles will now have shortterm capital gains to report in the next tax season
Mar 07 18:12:33 <BingoBongo>	And these big barely more than 25 BTC blocks continue...
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Mar 07 18:13:29 <benkay>	;;tslb
Mar 07 18:13:38 <gribble>	Time since last block: 4 minutes and 12 seconds
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Mar 07 18:19:35 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: how goes the botting? :)
Mar 07 18:19:50 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: lol you asshole
Mar 07 18:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	slowly it seems
Mar 07 18:21:01 <BitHub>	Hey, anyone seen Namworld around?
Mar 07 18:21:44 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: heh ic
Mar 07 18:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub he just joined
Mar 07 18:22:12 <BitHub>	lulz
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Mar 07 18:22:24 <BitHub>	ahh man i really shouldn't use this thing when i first wake up
Mar 07 18:22:42 <BitHub>	thanks mircea, how are you by the way?
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Mar 07 18:24:08 <Namworld>	I'm here now. What do you need?
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Mar 07 18:24:20 <BitHub>	i'll pm you
Mar 07 18:24:23 <BitHub>	brb first tho
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Mar 07 18:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	i'm great.
Mar 07 18:31:21 <Namworld>	Did you get any demand for fees to stop the DDoS yet??
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Mar 07 18:31:39 <Namworld>	Or is the DDoS done out of spite or something
Mar 07 18:32:20 <Namworld>	I need to go in and make a deposit/trade
Mar 07 18:32:49 <Namworld>	Can you take manual deposits for now?
Mar 07 18:33:02 <Diablo-D3>	heh what ddos?
Mar 07 18:33:13 <Namworld>	MPEx getting ddos'ed
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Mar 07 18:33:34 <Diablo-D3>	lame
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Mar 07 18:34:05 <BitHub>	meanwhile btcjam goes on
Mar 07 18:34:07 *	BitHub rolls eyes
Mar 07 18:35:16 <Namworld>	No one cares about BTCjam... that's why
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Mar 07 18:35:43 <BitHub>	haha
Mar 07 18:37:08 <kmg>	test
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Mar 07 18:39:35 <deadweasel>	nice topic
Mar 07 18:39:56 <deadweasel>	anybody else listen to Takenobu?
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Mar 07 18:40:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.005979 = 0.1196 BTC [-]
Mar 07 18:40:13 <deadweasel>	asian violinist.
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Mar 07 18:40:33 <deadweasel>	he killed my weasel with music.
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Mar 07 18:41:31 <smickles>	namworld yeah, ddos
Mar 07 18:42:06 <mod6>	6 blocks mined in 17 minutes?!
Mar 07 18:42:11 <smickles>	sillything to Do to
Mar 07 18:42:14 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld no demands.
Mar 07 18:42:16 <mod6>	its like faaaasst, then sloooow
Mar 07 18:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 weirdhuh
Mar 07 18:42:50 <smickles>	mod6 I've heard that randomness is clumsy
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Mar 07 18:43:05 <smickles>	we, clumpy
Mar 07 18:43:08 <mod6>	heheh
Mar 07 18:43:28 <mod6>	it is strange though... its like they kick up the ASCIs and grab a few blocks then turn 'em down to keep the difficulty in check?
Mar 07 18:43:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 18:43:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.00899 = 0.0809 BTC [+]
Mar 07 18:43:51 <smickles>	thatwouldn't work afaik
Mar 07 18:43:58 <mod6>	thats good! lol
Mar 07 18:44:02 <mod6>	im not sure wtf is goin on
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Mar 07 18:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 maybe overheating issues
Mar 07 18:48:19 <mod6>	ahh.
Mar 07 18:48:34 <kakobrekla>	clock buffers.
Mar 07 18:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,diff
Mar 07 18:53:59 <gribble>	4367876.0008422
Mar 07 18:54:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;estimate
Mar 07 18:54:08 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4749519.86453 based on data since last change | 4759411.19664 based on data for last three days
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Mar 07 18:59:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08999 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 19:02:03 <benkay>	allo kakobrekla
Mar 07 19:02:18 <kakobrekla>	allo allo
Mar 07 19:02:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [-]
Mar 07 19:02:39 <benkay>	may i please have user name for mpex socket?
Mar 07 19:02:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.00899 = 0.036 BTC [+]
Mar 07 19:03:09 <kakobrekla>	see pm
Mar 07 19:04:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.009 = 0.9 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 19:16:16 <benkay>	;;tslb
Mar 07 19:16:18 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 20 seconds
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Mar 07 19:47:50 <error4733>	freenode under DDoS
Mar 07 19:48:00 <error4733>	SELL SELL SELL
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Mar 07 19:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 07 19:52:10 <Bowjob>	selll
Mar 07 19:52:11 <Bowjob>	sell
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Mar 07 19:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 did they announce ?
Mar 07 19:55:02 <Bowjob>	mp is your trolling SA contest still up for grabs?
Mar 07 19:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
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Mar 07 19:55:39 <Bowjob>	im trolling gfaqs with coins as practice.. still training
Mar 07 19:55:39 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 07 19:55:40 <Bowjob>	kk
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Mar 07 19:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol remember when i used to pay .5 btc for an account there
Mar 07 19:55:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 389 @ 0.0007 = 0.2723 BTC [-]
Mar 07 19:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	now it's like... 0.2 ?
Mar 07 19:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
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Mar 07 19:56:10 <Bowjob>	yah i guess
Mar 07 19:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	they shrunk.
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Mar 07 19:59:37 <Bowjob>	someone gambled 17 BTC to S.Dice with their Mt gox account
Mar 07 19:59:43 <Bowjob>	it seems the gamble won..
Mar 07 19:59:55 <Bowjob>	but theres no way to tel from which account it came from...
Mar 07 20:00:02 <Bowjob>	so the gambler is SOL it seems
Mar 07 20:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Mar 07 20:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	pity we don't have the rota anymoar.
Mar 07 20:02:30 <Bowjob>	maybe that guy was angle shooting
Mar 07 20:02:39 <Bowjob>	saying he accidentally sent it to dice instead of his account
Mar 07 20:02:47 <Bowjob>	so erik would refund him
Mar 07 20:03:00 <Bowjob>	the same thing happened to this dude back then in dec, lost 50 btc
Mar 07 20:05:01 <mircea_popescu>	possibly so.
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Mar 07 20:12:32 <sgornick>	Bowjob: There's someone on the forum just claiming 21 lost that way.
Mar 07 20:12:48 <Bowjob>	yeah were tlking about the same guy
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Mar 07 20:13:01 <Bowjob>	he bet 17, won it.. but then the money got sent to mt gox
Mar 07 20:13:22 <sgornick>	> but theres no way to tel from which account it came from...
Mar 07 20:13:29 <sgornick>	You mean to which Mt. Gox account it went.
Mar 07 20:14:49 <sgornick>	Well, Mt Gox can tell.  They have better things to do than track down mistakenly made SD payments though.
Mar 07 20:16:06 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 20:16:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.38580, Best ask: 42.39209, Bid-ask spread: 0.00629, Last trade: 42.39209, 24 hour volume: 118703.21738512, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.39283
Mar 07 20:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	that guy must be real confused.
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Mar 07 20:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	hey, is it the guy who misidentified someone else's bet on bitbet as his own and rose hell here a few days ago ?
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Mar 07 20:25:10 <BingoBongo>	If only I could reread that post on Trilema...
Mar 07 20:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo which ?
Mar 07 20:25:37 <BingoBongo>	The BBet post.
Mar 07 20:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Mar 07 20:25:45 <BingoBongo>	Mr. Imaginary bet.
Mar 07 20:26:29 <BingoBongo>	I actually came on here today because i was wondering why I couldn't ready your classic on the housing crisis.
Mar 07 20:26:44 <BingoBongo>	*read
Mar 07 20:27:28 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo http://pastebin.com/TkqAG5ie
Mar 07 20:28:17 <BingoBongo>	Thanks. Have you though about just storing a copy of the Trilema archive in the namecoin blockchain. I don't think they'd mind.
Mar 07 20:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	you know trilema is like 7k articles, over 10mb of plaintext
Mar 07 20:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	ahem
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Mar 07 20:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	over 10mn words = like 70mb of text
Mar 07 20:28:53 <BingoBongo>	It's namecoin. They'll take anything.
Mar 07 20:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 07 20:29:16 <mod6>	lol oh yeah JimRogers
Mar 07 20:38:41 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 2.5 / 7
Mar 07 20:38:41 <gribble>	0.357142857143
Mar 07 20:38:54 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (2.5 / 7) * 140
Mar 07 20:38:55 <gribble>	50
Mar 07 20:39:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 07 20:39:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.70000, Best ask: 42.81500, Bid-ask spread: 0.11500, Last trade: 42.78384, 24 hour volume: 114078.83449030, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.60795
Mar 07 20:39:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 07 20:39:45 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4755826.83674 based on data since last change | 4747165.78694 based on data for last three days
Mar 07 20:39:49 <BingoBongo>	;;asks 1000
Mar 07 20:39:56 <gribble>	There are currently 111370.77 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 9613421.27709 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0052 seconds
Mar 07 20:40:35 <BingoBongo>	Sell orders about trippled since the last time I asked that...
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Mar 07 20:41:50 <Bowjob>	eh
Mar 07 20:41:56 <Bowjob>	wait till they hit 10k
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Mar 07 20:43:07 <Namworld>	They won't hit 10k...
Mar 07 20:43:33 <BingoBongo>	;;asks 10000
Mar 07 20:43:42 <gribble>	There are currently 115133.36 bitcoins offered at or under 10000.0 USD, worth 17157717.7085 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0056 seconds
Mar 07 20:44:02 <BingoBongo>	Maybe they will...
Mar 07 20:44:21 <Namworld>	No...
Mar 07 20:44:36 <Namworld>	as price go up, people tend to start putting money in the way.
Mar 07 20:45:52 <BingoBongo>	;;asks 100
Mar 07 20:46:02 <gribble>	There are currently 98810.011 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 5632319.28639 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0051 seconds
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Mar 07 20:47:58 <Namworld>	So no manual deposit I get it...
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Mar 07 20:53:02 <aethero>	What happened to MPEX?
Mar 07 20:53:37 <Namworld>	being DDoS'ed
Mar 07 20:53:49 <aethero>	What type of ddos?
Mar 07 20:53:57 <Namworld>	I have no idea
Mar 07 20:54:07 <Namworld>	anyway, MPEx will be getting an upgrade too
Mar 07 20:54:27 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 20:54:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.75902, Best ask: 41.98351, Bid-ask spread: 0.22449, Last trade: 41.75902, 24 hour volume: 112921.07904056, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.64678
Mar 07 20:54:30 <Namworld>	You can access MPEx from a proxy such as: http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 07 20:54:36 <Bowjob>	oh no. we are crashing again
Mar 07 20:54:40 <Namworld>	But you'll see there's an updating message.
Mar 07 20:54:45 <Namworld>	Bowjob: of course...
Mar 07 20:55:02 <aethero>	erk
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Mar 07 20:55:27 <Namworld>	Why would price madly like that and stay like that?
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Mar 07 20:56:16 <jcpham>	i'm gona have to say bitcoin
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Mar 07 20:58:37 <Namworld>	Wrong answer... that's the answer to why it raised, not why it would stay like that.
Mar 07 20:59:02 <jcpham>	heh
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Mar 07 21:03:49 <dub>	its a jcsham
Mar 07 21:03:56 <BingoBongo>	You'd be surprised Namworld the things that Dunning-Kruger can explain. It's like the new Goodwin, but for the Slate crowd.
Mar 07 21:06:38 <Namworld>	What does Dunning-Kruger has to do with it?
Mar 07 21:07:22 <Namworld>	Everyone thinks they're skilled because they buy BTC higher and higher because it keeps going higher and higher?
Mar 07 21:07:39 <BingoBongo>	It's why we could hit 10,000. Coinlab biting off more than they can chew and somehow instead of a flash crash we get a flash rally when they are hacked. Also yes your second point.
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Mar 07 21:08:48 <BingoBongo>	A combination of the two could probably make a new normal though.
Mar 07 21:08:59 <Chilca>	mpex still down?
Mar 07 21:09:24 <dub>	yes
Mar 07 21:09:50 <Chilca>	thanks, is there any status of the DDOS?
Mar 07 21:10:09 <Namworld>	I bet after it all settles, people who kept buying will be apoplectic with explanations and sound just like people after the dotcom bubble...
Mar 07 21:11:18 <Bugpowder>	I will tell u skilled
Mar 07 21:11:45 <Bugpowder>	Sell 500 at 47-48.89
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Mar 07 21:12:04 <Bugpowder>	Buy 200 @ 36.17 and 33.335
Mar 07 21:12:25 <Bugpowder>	Sell 100@ 44.47
Mar 07 21:12:42 <dub>	Chilca: sounds like it is ongoing but mpex has now been taken offline for upgrades
Mar 07 21:12:45 <Bugpowder>	Sign up for gox wire
Mar 07 21:13:03 <Bugpowder>	Come back mpex
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Mar 07 21:14:15 <jborkl_>	Bitcoin chart reminds me of silver chart,just compressed
Mar 07 21:14:27 <Namworld>	MPEx is a bit late on schedule for the upgrades
Mar 07 21:14:44 <dub>	he said the 8th
Mar 07 21:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	well... it's like 4am on the 8th so.
Mar 07 21:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	a bit later than 1am
Mar 07 21:15:47 <Namworld>	yeah
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Mar 07 21:15:54 <dub>	its actually 3pm on teh 8th
Mar 07 21:16:01 <dub>	in the earliest TZ anyway
Mar 07 21:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	a well
Mar 07 21:16:07 <Namworld>	Honestly, with upgrades, it's always hard to estimate.
Mar 07 21:16:25 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 21:16:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.80100, Best ask: 41.98351, Bid-ask spread: 0.18251, Last trade: 41.91771, 24 hour volume: 109127.80902302, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.65552
Mar 07 21:16:36 <Namworld>	Can take twice or half the time or more.
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Mar 07 21:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	anyweay, the first irc bot should be around in a few hours i think
Mar 07 21:17:28 <Namworld>	irc bot?
Mar 07 21:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
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Mar 07 21:18:44 <Namworld>	I'm curious about that now.
Mar 07 21:20:57 <Diablo-D3>	oh?
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Mar 07 21:22:08 <reddddd>	@CoinBr What's the point of having a support forum if you're not going to use it more major stuff like this?
Mar 07 21:23:09 <dub>	you can get to coinbr?
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Mar 07 21:25:17 <dub>	oh bitcoinforum.com, good point
Mar 07 21:25:43 <reddddd>	@dub, yeah
Mar 07 21:28:04 <error4733>	jborkl @ 3:14  http://www.businessinsider.com/this-chart-of-bitcoins-is-bananas-and-it-looks-a-lot-like-the-price-of-gold-2013-3
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Mar 07 21:30:43 <reddddd>	CoinBr also seems to have a twitter account that could have used an update.  There are so many better ways to let customers know what the hell is going on than just IRC.
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Mar 07 21:34:24 <mircea_popescu>	reddddd there's nothing better than irc.
Mar 07 21:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld you'll be able to go something like #post blabla and the bot will answer with an url to a pastebin with your response.
Mar 07 21:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	where ofcourse blabla is the pastebin id
Mar 07 21:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.444 = 0.888 BTC [+]
Mar 07 21:36:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.440001 = 1.76 BTC [-]
Mar 07 21:36:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.44000006 = 1.32 BTC [-]
Mar 07 21:37:23 <Namworld>	neat
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Mar 07 21:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.5 = 4 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 21:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [+]
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Mar 07 21:50:42 <dub>	-dev is so retarded
Mar 07 21:51:02 <Namworld>	What's happening in there?
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Mar 07 21:51:42 <dub>	novels are being written to explain how fees work to a novice
Mar 07 21:52:21 <dub>	the simple answer is bitcoin is stupid wrt fees
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Mar 07 21:59:53 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 07 21:59:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.62827, Best ask: 42.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16173, Last trade: 42.80000, 24 hour volume: 104745.97636275, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.61786
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Mar 07 22:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	"Pimples can be treated by various acne medications prescribed by a dermatologist, or purchased at a drug store with a wide variety of treatments."
Mar 07 22:13:45 <mircea_popescu>	dude i dunno if i'd purchase pimples
Mar 07 22:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	even at the store.
Mar 07 22:14:58 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: ...
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Mar 07 22:15:37 <BingoBongo>	You know medicine is fucked when leukemia is easier to treat than pimples.
Mar 07 22:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	im just quoting from the retardopedia.
Mar 07 22:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	you know, back 300 years ago when the encyclopedists came up with the first one, it was a monument of erudition
Mar 07 22:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	and good writing.
Mar 07 22:16:23 <BingoBongo>	No encyclopedia has ever been good
Mar 07 22:17:11 <Diablo-D3>	pimples is very easy to treat
Mar 07 22:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	diderot & d'alembert's was.
Mar 07 22:17:23 <Diablo-D3>	modern medicine refuses to accept the treatment because they can't charge obscene amounts of money for it
Mar 07 22:17:41 <Diablo-D3>	take high doses of omega 6 for the rest of your life.
Mar 07 22:17:41 <BingoBongo>	My french isn't good enough to make an informed opinion on Diderot's
Mar 07 22:17:54 <Diablo-D3>	not only does it cure pimples, it cures and lessens lots of other things
Mar 07 22:18:13 <BingoBongo>	Leukemia is easy to treat too. Eat a bunch of methotrexate and live.
Mar 07 22:18:18 <Diablo-D3>	through in 5000 IU of vitamin D daily, and you'll probably add another ten years to your life
Mar 07 22:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo pick a page and read outloud
Mar 07 22:18:55 <mircea_popescu>	im willing to go on a limb and say you'll get my point
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Mar 07 22:23:03 <BingoBongo>	What am I reading from again, Retardo-wiki'wiki'wiki'wha?
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Mar 07 22:23:35 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo l'encyclopedie.
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Mar 07 22:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	l'encyclopedie
Mar 07 22:29:38 <BingoBongo>	Rubeta: a poison derived from the juice of a frog. Juvenal wrote of a lady who mingled this kind of poison in wine and presented it to her husband
Mar 07 22:31:07 <BingoBongo>	from http://www.alembert.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=611399672&catid=665689230:poison&Itemid=127
Mar 07 22:32:59 <BingoBongo>	Seems almost more like a dictionary
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Mar 07 22:33:15 <BingoBongo>	I'll dig deeper
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Mar 07 22:35:45 <BingoBongo>	What little french I've read mircea_popescu has been at least 200 years newer
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Mar 07 22:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	:p
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Mar 07 22:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	you don't have to translate it
Mar 07 22:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	just read it, outloud.
Mar 07 22:38:51 <BitHub>	almost time for teh weekend
Mar 07 22:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	Ce qu'on appelle bonheur, est une idée abstraite, composée de quelques idées de plaisir ; car qui n'a qu'un moment de plaisir n'est point un homme heureux ; de même qu'un moment de douleur ne fait point un homme malheureux. Le plaisir est plus rapide que le bonheur, & le bonheur plus passager que la félicité. Quand on dit je suis heureux dans ce moment, on abuse du mot, & cela ne veut dire que j'ai du plaisir : q
Mar 07 22:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	uand on a des plaisirs un peu répétés, on peut dans cet espace de tems se dire heureux ; quand ce bonheur dure un peu plus, c'est un état de félicité ; on est quelquefois bien loin d'être heureux dans la prospérité, comme un malade dégoûté ne mange rien d'un grand festin préparé pour lui.
Mar 07 22:44:00 <Bowjob>	"bonheur"
Mar 07 22:44:05 <Bowjob>	=boner?
Mar 07 22:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like a low roar happines
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Mar 07 22:48:55 <BingoBongo>	mircea_popescu it isn't that unlike James
Mar 07 22:49:46 <BingoBongo>	It is a familiar sentiment
Mar 07 22:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	james who ?
Mar 07 22:51:10 <BitHub>	mircea coming to australia this weekend?
Mar 07 22:51:25 <BingoBongo>	William James, one of maybe three Americans introspective enough about the pecuiar brand of manic misery here to approach a reasonble target for a philosopher
Mar 07 22:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	ah william james. okay
Mar 07 22:52:22 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub not bloody likely :D
Mar 07 22:52:33 <BitHub>	haha
Mar 07 22:52:38 <BitHub>	where the bloody hell are ya
Mar 07 22:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	timisoara.
Mar 07 22:53:22 <BitHub>	lets go visit kimdotcom i'm bored
Mar 07 22:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	bloody hell.
Mar 07 22:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	send a wire. nothing happens.
Mar 07 22:53:57 <BitHub>	lul
Mar 07 22:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	call the bank ready to bite their head off for being idiots
Mar 07 22:54:04 <BitHub>	bloody hell
Mar 07 22:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	turns out... the... wire...system... is... down.
Mar 07 22:54:18 <BitHub>	seems odd when someone else says it
Mar 07 22:54:18 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck are these people doing over there.
Mar 07 22:54:29 <BitHub>	being a bunch of cunty's?
Mar 07 22:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	the us is falling apart.
Mar 07 22:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, bitcoin transactions taking 6 hours ? okay. its some internet funny money nobody heard about.
Mar 07 22:55:04 <BitHub>	dood stop complaining
Mar 07 22:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	but when my banker has to tell me he failed because the wire system is down...
Mar 07 22:55:13 <BitHub>	i had to sit a cafe for 6 hours just to wait for 1 confirm
Mar 07 22:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	it's not even complaining. i'm awed i guess.
Mar 07 22:55:15 <BitHub>	it was hell
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Mar 07 23:07:40 <mod6>	sup mpexbot
Mar 07 23:09:43 <mod6>	(20:09) < BitHub> DEATH TO SD
Mar 07 23:09:56 <mod6>	here we go again
Mar 07 23:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol he's trolling.
Mar 07 23:10:30 <BitHub>	i didn't care before till i had to start waiting hours and hours and hours for 1 confirm
Mar 07 23:10:32 <BitHub>	now its personal
Mar 07 23:10:40 <mod6>	ahh, successfull troll 9/10
Mar 07 23:10:53 <mod6>	oh no troll then
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Mar 07 23:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	guess that makes me successfull troll 10/10
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Mar 07 23:16:29 <jcpham>	mod6 agreed
Mar 07 23:16:33 <jcpham>	like adhd chat
Mar 07 23:16:55 <mod6>	this stuff about SD is getting out of hand
Mar 07 23:17:17 <jcpham>	i don't care so much about SD
Mar 07 23:17:28 <jcpham>	if txns aren't going through that's a problem
Mar 07 23:17:39 <jcpham>	a problem i think miners should capitalize on
Mar 07 23:18:19 <jcpham>	i'm not sure how though
Mar 07 23:18:33 <jcpham>	if SD wants its blocks mined it needs to pay a toll
Mar 07 23:18:39 <jcpham>	it needs a pool in its pocket
Mar 07 23:18:44 <topace_>	how goes the mpex upgrades/"overhaul" ?
Mar 07 23:19:25 <jcpham>	that's why i pay a fee on my txns, because i want them to go through
Mar 07 23:20:01 <BitHub>	i agree
Mar 07 23:20:08 <BitHub>	slap a toll in there
Mar 07 23:20:21 <jcpham>	specialized pools should crop up soon
Mar 07 23:20:41 <mod6>	what is going on...
Mar 07 23:20:46 <BitHub>	so you mean just a mining farm just for SD transactions?
Mar 07 23:20:47 <mod6>	so tx's are not being processed at all?
Mar 07 23:21:05 <jcpham>	in some cases they are backing up because of the 250kb block limit
Mar 07 23:21:10 <jcpham>	afaiunderstand it
Mar 07 23:21:26 <jcpham>	luke-jr and others primarily blame this on SD
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Mar 07 23:22:04 <jcpham>	and then some say the devs should all hold hands and increase it
Mar 07 23:22:48 <BingoBongo>	I blame bitvisitor. At least some SD transactions carry appreciable amunts of bitcoins.
Mar 07 23:22:54 <mod6>	yeah, read about that shit earlier...
Mar 07 23:23:17 <mod6>	today has been insane even outside of btc today, hard to keep up
Mar 07 23:23:34 <mod6>	so basically btc is fucked
Mar 07 23:24:42 <BingoBongo>	Btc is only fucked in the sense it is having fun getting its dick wet
Mar 07 23:24:46 <mod6>	if they move up to 1Mb that buys them some time, but isn't any different then what the global central banks are doing
Mar 07 23:24:49 <mod6>	buying time
Mar 07 23:24:51 <jcpham>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150405.0;topicseen
Mar 07 23:25:03 <jcpham>	the "SD is spam" idea has traction
Mar 07 23:26:51 <mod6>	yeah, looks like it
Mar 07 23:27:07 <jcpham>	http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html
Mar 07 23:27:21 <jcpham>	 At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the
Mar 07 23:27:22 <jcpham>	network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to
Mar 07 23:27:22 <jcpham>	specialists with server farms of specialized hardware.  A server farm would
Mar 07 23:27:22 <jcpham>	only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with
Mar 07 23:27:22 <jcpham>	that one node.
Mar 07 23:27:42 <jcpham>	assume we're close to the point of full node/ merkle nodes
Mar 07 23:27:59 <jcpham>	what happens to SD if pools or full nodes implement that patch
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Mar 07 23:28:24 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: dude
Mar 07 23:28:26 <Diablo-D3>	as it stands
Mar 07 23:28:32 <Diablo-D3>	without any patch
Mar 07 23:28:42 <Diablo-D3>	bitcoin will just shove SD tx out because they don't pay fees
Mar 07 23:28:59 <BitHub>	i got so angry i sold over 1000 sdice shares for whatever the fuck price, something cheap and nasty
Mar 07 23:28:59 <jcpham>	too much tin foil
Mar 07 23:29:02 <BitHub>	fuck them
Mar 07 23:29:11 <jcpham>	not enough beer. my apologies
Mar 07 23:29:25 <mod6>	i'm gonna guess they will cut SD out, and then SD will just pay fees and maybe raise betting levels?
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Mar 07 23:30:23 <mod6>	there was talk about raising min fee to .01 or something, but that doesn't give incentive to not use anything else gay like PP
Mar 07 23:31:41 <mod6>	now, see, i thought that EV kept sayin how he pays fee's and the miners are getting rich off the fee's alone...
Mar 07 23:32:01 <mod6>	ala, something like `SD has paid more in fee's than all the rest of the tx's combined'... must find link...
Mar 07 23:32:05 <mod6>	one sec.
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Mar 07 23:33:17 <mod6>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145510.msg1559267#msg1559267
Mar 07 23:33:20 <mod6>	there
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Mar 07 23:33:52 <smickles>	$coin
Mar 07 23:33:52 <mpexbot>	smickles: Error: "coin" is not a valid command.
Mar 07 23:34:02 <smickles>	fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
Mar 07 23:36:06 <mod6>	so i think that SD pays the fee's which is what got me so worked up this morning reading all of Luke-jr's crusade to rid the world of SD
Mar 07 23:36:36 <mod6>	but the blocksize thing is a seperate problem.
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Mar 07 23:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	<BingoBongo> Btc is only fucked in the sense it is having fun getting its dick wet << this.
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Mar 07 23:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	<topace_> how goes the mpex upgrades/"overhaul" ? << the mpexbot just showed up
Mar 07 23:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham read the next reply from that dude.
Mar 07 23:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09968.html
Mar 07 23:39:22 <mircea_popescu>	he's brilliant.
Mar 07 23:39:24 <BingoBongo>	$OIX
Mar 07 23:39:25 <mpexbot>	BingoBongo: Error: "OIX" is not a valid command.
Mar 07 23:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	who is he anyway ?
Mar 07 23:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	$dix
Mar 07 23:39:38 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Error: "dix" is not a valid command.
Mar 07 23:39:45 <doctor_pullfingr>	can we speculate that the ddos against mpex is retaliation for SD spam?
Mar 07 23:39:57 <mod6>	maybe
Mar 07 23:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol i don't think luke has the resources for something like this.
Mar 07 23:40:18 <BitHub>	what's the price of SD now?
Mar 07 23:40:30 <BitHub>	wonder if its gone down a bit
Mar 07 23:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub not appreciably changed.
Mar 07 23:40:47 <BitHub>	not like yesterday when everyone thought mpex was done for hey
Mar 07 23:41:02 <BingoBongo>	Luke has too well developed though weird sense of ethics for a DDOS
Mar 07 23:41:18 <jcpham>	that message thread may wind up framed in the luvre or some shit
Mar 07 23:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	they did ?!
Mar 07 23:41:48 <BitHub>	yeah remember mircea everyone in otc was panicing
Mar 07 23:41:50 <BitHub>	lulz
Mar 07 23:41:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 23:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	mpex ain't done for till i say
Mar 07 23:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	and i'm niot even fat.
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Mar 07 23:42:29 <BitHub>	fiat :P
Mar 07 23:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	anyone saw "seek and destroy" ?
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Mar 07 23:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	christopher walken movie
Mar 07 23:43:06 <BitHub>	ummm nope
Mar 07 23:43:11 <BitHub>	good?
Mar 07 23:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	its surreal
Mar 07 23:43:40 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu you should partake in -otc for a bit
Mar 07 23:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno why it didn't get more traction, should be a cult classic.
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Mar 07 23:43:48 <jcpham>	it's total anarchy
Mar 07 23:43:48 <BitHub>	what year?
Mar 07 23:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	1995
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Mar 07 23:43:55 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham lol
Mar 07 23:43:58 <jcpham>	it's total anarchy
Mar 07 23:44:01 <BitHub>	my bad jcpham
Mar 07 23:44:04 <BitHub>	i think its my fault
Mar 07 23:44:11 <jcpham>	nope
Mar 07 23:44:28 <jcpham>	channel needs desperately to be +m
Mar 07 23:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	pity it's +m and not +fuckyouyourestupid
Mar 07 23:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	which would be the proper name of that flag
Mar 07 23:44:49 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it's too long
Mar 07 23:45:11 <BitHub>	are you sure he's in that movie mircea?
Mar 07 23:45:16 <BitHub>	nothing on imdb
Mar 07 23:45:17 <mircea_popescu>	yes im sure.
Mar 07 23:45:22 <mircea_popescu>	hum lets see
Mar 07 23:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114371/
Mar 07 23:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	tghere. scorsese also has a cameo
Mar 07 23:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	he plays a tax accountant for the state of florida lol
Mar 07 23:45:51 <BitHub>	ahh search not seek :P
Mar 07 23:45:54 <BitHub>	lul scorses wtf
Mar 07 23:45:57 <mircea_popescu>	o sorry my bad
Mar 07 23:46:00 <jcpham>	i just realized the other day that mario puzo did superman
Mar 07 23:46:06 <jcpham>	the original screenplay
Mar 07 23:46:16 <BitHub>	nice same guy as godfather
Mar 07 23:46:18 <jcpham>	and jor-el is the fucking godfather
Mar 07 23:46:37 <BitHub>	ahh yeah that's right he did play jor-el
Mar 07 23:46:52 <jcpham>	do you think when they were filming the godfather and made money
Mar 07 23:46:57 <jcpham>	marlon brando was like
Mar 07 23:47:04 <jcpham>	you know i'd really like to be superman
Mar 07 23:47:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 23:47:25 <BitHub>	fuck man how good was marlon brando
Mar 07 23:47:28 <jcpham>	and that was as close as he came to it
Mar 07 23:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham do you know the one where marlon brando went like... hey, i'd like to rape this 19 yo
Mar 07 23:47:37 <mircea_popescu>	and so they did it ?
Mar 07 23:47:51 <jcpham>	hrm sounds questionably legal
Mar 07 23:47:52 <BitHub>	wat?
Mar 07 23:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 07 23:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	girl got total rape victim shock syndrome
Mar 07 23:48:08 <maximian>	These morons are gonna kill Bitcoin with this anti-SD crusade…
Mar 07 23:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	became like, a feminist and everything. total tableau.
Mar 07 23:48:19 <BitHub>	he raped someone?
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Mar 07 23:48:33 <mircea_popescu>	maximian tell you something : if morons are gonna kills anything then fuck that anything.
Mar 07 23:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub yes.
Mar 07 23:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	anal sex too
Mar 07 23:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	with butter.
Mar 07 23:48:48 <BitHub>	i doubt it
Mar 07 23:48:54 <mircea_popescu>	its a fact.
Mar 07 23:49:05 <BitHub>	nah
Mar 07 23:49:27 <BingoBongo>	The anti-SD crusade isn't going to kill bitcoin. The crusaders are more people who liberated their bitcoins by freeing them into S.Dice's arms. Probably... except for Luke.
Mar 07 23:49:30 <maximian>	the problem is their little "SD is spam" meme is starting to spread
Mar 07 23:49:48 <mod6>	(20:48) < maximian> These morons are gonna kill Bitcoin with this anti-SD crusade... <<< this
Mar 07 23:49:49 <BitHub>	the coolest thing about brando was when he sent an indian woman to collect his oscar for his role in the godfather
Mar 07 23:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-469646/I-felt-raped-Brando.html
Mar 07 23:50:21 <BitHub>	i "felt" raped
Mar 07 23:50:22 <BitHub>	lulz
Mar 07 23:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	maximian mod6 people fail to realise this, but there's a good reason and great strategic advantage in the girl's fuck you attitude.
Mar 07 23:50:31 <mod6>	(20:46) <+mod6> "First, SD has paid more mining fees than everyone else in the world, combined." << Is this a lie?
Mar 07 23:50:38 <mod6>	(20:46) <+Luke-Jr> mod6: yes
Mar 07 23:50:43 <mod6>	there it is folks
Mar 07 23:50:59 <BitHub>	oh yeah i remember this movie
Mar 07 23:51:06 <BitHub>	it was pretty friggen psycho
Mar 07 23:51:08 <mircea_popescu>	no meme spreads past the point where someone's holding a club
Mar 07 23:51:17 <BitHub>	i doubt it tho mircea
Mar 07 23:51:28 <maximian>	DailyAnarchist put it right it a bitcointalk thread: if nobody knew what the source of these "spam" transactions were, then the discussion would be about how to improve the system to handle more transactions. The fact that the crusaders know these transactions are from SatoshiDice has clouded their judgement.
Mar 07 23:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 the guy's insane, sd paid like 55% of all fees ever paid
Mar 07 23:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	maximian its not even that.
Mar 07 23:51:52 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: im /nearly/ at a loss for words.
Mar 07 23:51:53 <BitHub>	but even if he did, meh that's his personal life, still the best actor
Mar 07 23:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's simple drama. some people who mean very little started to notice.
Mar 07 23:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	and are trying to inject themselves into the public eye
Mar 07 23:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	how is that accomplished ? why, crusade for "the betterment".
Mar 07 23:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr is a sort of bitcoin obama.
Mar 07 23:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is... unlike fiat that shit doesn't work here.
Mar 07 23:52:32 <BitHub>	bitcoin obama lulz
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Mar 07 23:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	well... for anything other than comedic relief.
Mar 07 23:52:48 <BitHub>	he gave me a pretty lulz neg review
Mar 07 23:52:48 <mod6>	heheh
Mar 07 23:52:52 <mircea_popescu>	at any rate, drama backs bitcoin, so, all this is good.
Mar 07 23:53:05 <mod6>	BitHub: and you're on Luke-jr's side?!?!?
Mar 07 23:53:13 <maximian>	it raises my hackles, I tell you! :)
Mar 07 23:53:30 <BitHub>	heh i'm not on his side
Mar 07 23:53:37 <BitHub>	but i do have beef with sdice atm
Mar 07 23:53:37 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: haha drama is right. BTC has more drama than Lifetime Channel.
Mar 07 23:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 imagine how it'll be when women finally discover it.
Mar 07 23:54:21 *	BitHub starts hiding his bitcoin wallet now
Mar 07 23:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	otc made out of ~100 middle aged women with nothing better to do
Mar 07 23:55:17 <BingoBongo>	bitcoin-assets we've taken the family car apart six times today just to get some quiet time
Mar 07 23:55:37 <mod6>	(20:54) < jcpham> luke-jr if you don't stfu about SD i'm going to burn your church down
Mar 07 23:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 23:55:48 <mod6>	(20:54) <+Luke-Jr> jcpham: I'll be there to shoot you when you try.
Mar 07 23:55:48 <mod6>	(20:55) < jcpham> :)
Mar 07 23:55:53 <mod6>	(20:55) <+mod6> wwjd
Mar 07 23:55:56 <mircea_popescu>	where's that church anyway ?
Mar 07 23:56:50 <BingoBongo>	Rome isn't it? He's catholic his local stuff doesn't matter. I just wonder which of the BitBet pope bets are his.
Mar 07 23:56:51 <mod6>	FL i guess
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Mar 07 23:57:39 <doctor_pullfingr>	GoDaddy got semi famous off the savetoby controversy.  Then got really famous off the Superbowl controversy.  I think S.Dice should milk this controversy for everything it's got.  shout S.Dice is spam from the mountaintops
Mar 07 23:58:01 <doctor_pullfingr>	I own shares btw
Mar 07 23:58:40 <doctor_pullfingr>	http://savetoby.com/
Mar 07 23:59:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 07 23:59:41 <mod6>	(20:58) <+Luke-Jr> anyhow, I was just trying to get a feel for how many people would run a counter-SD client if I take the time to write the code
Mar 07 23:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, goddady is a piece of shit.
Mar 07 23:59:46 <mod6>	this is like his own fork isn't it?
Mar 07 23:59:51 <maximian>	evoorhees should reinvest his profits into a massive mining pool - that's probably the surest way to make the crusaders irrelevant.
Mar 08 00:00:04 <mod6>	i mean he's not saying that, but thats what it is.
Mar 08 00:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	maximian at this point in the game it's the surest way to go bankrupt.
Mar 08 00:00:09 <BitHub>	POS name
Mar 08 00:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	all the scams...
Mar 08 00:00:16 <Luke-Jr>	maximian: the surest way is to stop flooding and implement SD properly
Mar 08 00:00:20 <Luke-Jr>	maximian: far cheaper too
Mar 08 00:00:26 <mircea_popescu>	this is properly dood.
Mar 08 00:00:33 <maximian>	"properly"
Mar 08 00:00:36 <mod6>	Luke-Jr: what you're proposing is a hard fork of the blockchain right?
Mar 08 00:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 so he starts his own client, what's the big deal ?
Mar 08 00:00:45 <Luke-Jr>	heck, I'd even offer to do it for him except my stupid State has laws against writing code for gambling -.-
Mar 08 00:00:49 <Luke-Jr>	mod6: no
Mar 08 00:00:50 <mod6>	ok. i don't care if he starts his own client.
Mar 08 00:00:54 <mircea_popescu>	face facts : sooner or later Luke-Jr will end up in a little corner playing with some correct toys nobody cares about
Mar 08 00:00:58 <BitHub>	serious Luke?
Mar 08 00:01:02 <mod6>	as long as everyone else figures out how to solve the block size issue.
Mar 08 00:01:03 <BitHub>	laws against writing code?
Mar 08 00:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	this is how it goes, nothing wrong in it.
Mar 08 00:01:04 <maximian>	If you didn't know the origin of the transactions, what would you say?
Mar 08 00:01:06 <mod6>	SD is another problem
Mar 08 00:01:06 <BitHub>	that's crazy
Mar 08 00:01:07 <Luke-Jr>	BitHub: yes, it's stupid
Mar 08 00:01:08 <mod6>	or not
Mar 08 00:01:23 <mod6>	but... whatever. they're two seperate topics
Mar 08 00:01:25 <BitHub>	Luke so you could fly to mexico and be all sweet?
Mar 08 00:01:26 <Luke-Jr>	why the USA has such a big problem with gambling, I'll probably never understand
Mar 08 00:01:39 <mod6>	what if SD wasnt a gaming site?
Mar 08 00:01:40 <Luke-Jr>	BitHub: I'm not interested in relocation to Mexico.
Mar 08 00:01:44 <BitHub>	so online gambling is illegal but guns is sweet? haha
Mar 08 00:01:52 <mod6>	what if it was just some random tx's from the same host that paid the fee's?
Mar 08 00:01:55 <mod6>	would you say the same thing?
Mar 08 00:02:01 <Luke-Jr>	mod6: a flood is a flood.
Mar 08 00:02:03 <BitHub>	Luke-Jr ya i know was thinking if you spent a week there adn wrote the code, would that be legal?
Mar 08 00:02:06 <Luke-Jr>	mod6: I don't care how it's financed
Mar 08 00:02:14 <Luke-Jr>	BitHub: dunno
Mar 08 00:02:25 <BitHub>	hmm i think you would get away with it :)
Mar 08 00:02:43 <mod6>	Luke-Jr: ok. so what happens when there are 1,000,000 bitcoin users and they all create 5 new tx's per day.
Mar 08 00:02:52 <mod6>	what then? we just shut the fucking doors and go home?
Mar 08 00:03:14 <mod6>	christ on a pony this is idiotic
Mar 08 00:03:16 <Luke-Jr>	mod6: no, that's far less than SD does
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Mar 08 00:03:42 <mod6>	you're saying that SD does more than 5 million tx's per day?
Mar 08 00:03:54 <Luke-Jr>	mod6: I'm saying adoption matters.
Mar 08 00:04:00 <Luke-Jr>	1,000,000 nodes can handle 5 mil txs
Mar 08 00:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.446 = 2.23 BTC [-]
Mar 08 00:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	with the current broken bitcoin-qt there will never, ever, no matter what be 1mn nodes.
Mar 08 00:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	ever.
Mar 08 00:04:47 <mod6>	Luke-Jr: yes, adoption matters, you know what I have guys download? something for their android
Mar 08 00:04:51 <mod6>	not the full client.
Mar 08 00:04:55 <mod6>	i don't want them to wait 3 days
Mar 08 00:05:03 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: 1,000,000 users also brings a number more developers onboard
Mar 08 00:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr what the fuck are you thinking this is, chicken lay eggs ?
Mar 08 00:05:18 <Luke-Jr>	mod6: eventually, Bitcoin-Qt will be instant-on
Mar 08 00:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	herpderp joe sixpack becomes a dev if you aggregate 5000 of them !?
Mar 08 00:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	money brings devs.
Mar 08 00:05:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Mar 08 00:05:51 <Luke-Jr>	http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html <-- Satoshi on the necessity of adoption to scale
Mar 08 00:05:58 <mircea_popescu>	there was never good myspace code. ever.
Mar 08 00:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	myspace had a billion users.
Mar 08 00:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	the best thing you can do for adoption to scale right now is to fix the motherfucking client.
Mar 08 00:06:48 <mircea_popescu>	rather than trying to argue with a tank.
Mar 08 00:07:14 <Luke-Jr>	the client isn't broken.
Mar 08 00:07:20 <BitHub>	lul myspace
Mar 08 00:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lBXQVHyQ1VA/TNczMI1ojSI/AAAAAAAAAq4/7tE5YUtGIz4/s1600/Tank_over_car.jpg
Mar 08 00:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	car that tried to argue with a tank.
Mar 08 00:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	the client is beyond broken.
Mar 08 00:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	actually it may be the worst piece of crap ever used by this many people.
Mar 08 00:09:16 <mod6>	so you're gonna make your own client, that'll have your branch (exclusion of '1dice') in there native?
Mar 08 00:09:21 <mircea_popescu>	simple illustrative point : i can pick a torrent worth 7gb right now, anything with less than 20 seeders
Mar 08 00:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	and it will be downloaded in an hour.
Mar 08 00:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	this means blockchain MUST be downloaded in 15 minutes tops.
Mar 08 00:09:36 <mircea_popescu>	TOPS.
Mar 08 00:09:46 <mod6>	yeah, torrents are uber fast
Mar 08 00:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	until the point that's the case none of you people have any business eating even.
Mar 08 00:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	forget having oppinions. just tap the kbd till it does it.
Mar 08 00:10:17 <jcpham>	lots of info for SD investors to speculate on
Mar 08 00:10:45 <mod6>	vote with your coins!
Mar 08 00:10:50 <mod6>	lol
Mar 08 00:11:07 <jcpham>	i think this entire chat would be insider trading somehow
Mar 08 00:11:21 <jcpham>	now all we have to do is collude
Mar 08 00:11:24 <jcpham>	publicly
Mar 08 00:11:27 <mod6>	bah
Mar 08 00:11:43 <BingoBongo>	It's IRC this is public enough...
Mar 08 00:11:58 <jcpham>	you would think, but...
Mar 08 00:12:00 <BitHub>	it is?
Mar 08 00:12:05 *	BitHub puts his pants back on
Mar 08 00:12:30 <BingoBongo>	any one know who Guest 11382 is?
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Mar 08 00:15:13 <Bowjob>	mhm anyone think bfl wont deliver by april?
Mar 08 00:15:55 <BitHub>	april 1st
Mar 08 00:16:15 <BitHub>	deliver you a big box with a letter inside it asking for money money
Mar 08 00:16:20 <BitHub>	more
Mar 08 00:16:22 <BingoBongo>	I bet they might, BitCOin's just playmoney anyway
Mar 08 00:17:36 <Bowjob>	gah
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Mar 08 00:22:43 <BingoBongo>	At least BitBet is online...
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Mar 08 00:22:57 <mod6>	are tx's going through though?
Mar 08 00:24:29 <BingoBongo>	Investigating that now
Mar 08 00:26:17 <BingoBongo>	Blockchain saw it... Let's see if it confirms...
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Mar 08 00:27:09 <mod6>	well, this one isn't too old, and it's got 19 confs: http://blockchain.info/tx/d8dac0508d27e922f957c893c896f6f887a7dc614c1aec1c89b27b943ff5be0f
Mar 08 00:27:26 <mod6>	ima keep lookin
Mar 08 00:28:06 <BingoBongo>	http://blockchain.info/tx-index/59136614/289e2dc6ac2cd1f3e8d5ec126741b304caf1e16b3e746eadd0a402dbc9910870 because the Dutch ar fucking Cuba's shit up right now...
Mar 08 00:28:34 <mod6>	thanks BingoBongo
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Mar 08 00:31:40 <BingoBongo>	You're welcome. It's one of those World Baseball Classic penny bets, because apparently that didn't have enough chutzpah to attract much interest. I've had too much vodka tonight to mess with the python script so I don't know at this weight if I will clear anything, but fuck it. Bitcoin is an MMORPG and that's what I'm telling the 5-0
Mar 08 00:32:41 <mod6>	for real lol
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Mar 08 00:34:15 <SpNg>	hey mircea_popescu I have been out of the loop the last couple days. What's going on with MPEx? I see that it's down right now.
Mar 08 00:34:20 <BingoBongo>	Bitcoin is a drama role playing game and it just so happens the tokens to play the game happen to be valued quite a bit. Like WoW gold.
Mar 08 00:34:54 <mod6>	im starting to think the same thing. like fast-times-at-btc-high.
Mar 08 00:35:37 <BitHub>	haha bingo, too true
Mar 08 00:35:42 <BitHub>	an expensive game of emotions
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Mar 08 00:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	SpNg well, past coupla days its been being ddosed
Mar 08 00:36:26 <mircea_popescu>	finally yest they got the proxies and everything.
Mar 08 00:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	working on bringing all back online.
Mar 08 00:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	there's a forum post the girl made summing up everything
Mar 08 00:36:56 <SpNg>	mircea_popescu: seriously? wtf? you have a link to the post?
Mar 08 00:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	ok 1 sec
Mar 08 00:37:05 <SpNg>	any public motive?
Mar 08 00:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1598165#msg1598165
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Mar 08 00:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno dood, god knows i'm well loved and i can't think of anyone or anything that'd have it in for me.
Mar 08 00:38:07 <SpNg>	haha. love it.
Mar 08 00:38:26 <BingoBongo>	Maybe Coinlab, You just debuted that OIX thing that kind of threatened to replace MT Gox spot... Though you presented it more modestly.
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Mar 08 00:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo maybe.
Mar 08 00:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	tho tbh... what diff would it make to anyone if its gox spot or oix or a random number coming out of a hat.
Mar 08 00:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	as long as it's the consensus it's as good as any other, for a service provider.
Mar 08 00:40:09 <BingoBongo>	I mean the girl's been hammering the Gox is dead mantra and some noobs seem to be trusting her for a change. You might have survived the game long enough that people start to assume you're legit.
Mar 08 00:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	i think the legit part came in a while ago.
Mar 08 00:40:39 <mod6>	;;gpg info mircea_popescu
Mar 08 00:40:39 <gribble>	User 'mircea_popescu', with keyid 8A736F0E2FB7B452, fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri Jul 22 05:39:10 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=mircea_popescu . Currently not authenticated.
Mar 08 00:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	and the girl's been hammering the what ?!
Mar 08 00:40:51 <mod6>	july 22, 2011
Mar 08 00:41:00 <BitHub>	hammering BitHub
Mar 08 00:41:02 <mod6>	that's been a while now, longer than most of us
Mar 08 00:41:09 <BitHub>	u*
Mar 08 00:41:15 <BingoBongo>	The Coinlab buying Gox's USD book threatens Gox's sustainability angle
Mar 08 00:41:16 <BitHub>	:B
Mar 08 00:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo im not even sure they seriously want the #1 spot.
Mar 08 00:41:33 <BitHub>	Bingo incorrect
Mar 08 00:41:50 <BingoBongo>	Ah, that's just my reading.
Mar 08 00:41:53 <BitHub>	they're are many peeps many working on ways for americans to get around coinlab into gox
Mar 08 00:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	but im pretty sure nothing was bought.
Mar 08 00:42:22 <mod6>	;;bc,tslb
Mar 08 00:42:23 <gribble>	Time since last block: 19 minutes and 16 seconds
Mar 08 00:42:30 <mod6>	of course
Mar 08 00:42:31 <BitHub>	i think you'll see a lil bump but gox should be okey :)
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Mar 08 00:44:31 <BingoBongo>	I dunno yCombinator has all of that renting apartments out to methheads money Mircea, it was probably either bought, hyped, or humiliated.  I don't think Gox was forced, but I say this with a low degree of confidence.
Mar 08 00:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo i'm with pigeons on that score :
Mar 08 00:44:53 <BingoBongo>	BitHub I trust it will be smooth, but the newbs opions shape the shouting
Mar 08 00:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox dispensed itself of the liabilitous us book
Mar 08 00:45:18 <mircea_popescu>	quite ellegantly at that.
Mar 08 00:45:41 <BingoBongo>	Coinlab probably though it was a bargain
Mar 08 00:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	it's how these things usually work.
Mar 08 00:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	after the french fiasco they certainly didn't feel the need for a replay, so.
Mar 08 00:47:12 <mircea_popescu>	it's a win-win : the noobs get bragging rights (which they don't know how to use, but hey, youth), mtgox gets out of some stick.
Mar 08 00:47:25 <mircea_popescu>	the us public becomes even more underserved, isolated, ghettoized
Mar 08 00:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	but then again that's unavoidable.
Mar 08 00:47:45 <BingoBongo>	Gox never really had the staff or skill to handle the low information customers
Mar 08 00:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, there's some lessons being learned here. everyone wants to be more like mpex.
Mar 08 00:48:40 <BitHub>	be nice is there was something just as big or popular as mtgox
Mar 08 00:48:43 <BitHub>	at least 4 places
Mar 08 00:48:55 <BitHub>	not good to depend just on mtgox?
Mar 08 00:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they'll crop up.
Mar 08 00:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is tho, the net result of mtgox's however we call it, incompetence, being stretched too thin
Mar 08 00:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	is that otc trade exploded,.
Mar 08 00:49:46 <BingoBongo>	ANd that's the crucial difference from 2011
Mar 08 00:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	they have been bleeding market share month by month by month. by now i wouldn't even bet they do a third.
Mar 08 00:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	in 2011 they had 80% hands down
Mar 08 00:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	this of course becomes problematic for pricing options.
Mar 08 00:51:02 <mod6>	;;bc,tslb
Mar 08 00:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.63 BTC [+]
Mar 08 00:51:03 <gribble>	Time since last block: 27 minutes and 56 seconds
Mar 08 00:51:10 <mod6>	hardy fuckin har miners
Mar 08 00:51:32 <BitHub>	so is mpex going to do its own gox? :D
Mar 08 00:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	And thus it came to pass that the splendid son of bright-minded Keleos,
Mar 08 00:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	Dêmophôn, who was born to well-girded Metaneira
Mar 08 00:51:57 <mod6>	cross your fingers and pray to dog
Mar 08 00:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4999988 BTC [+]
Mar 08 00:52:02 <mircea_popescu>	well girded lol. that's a woman i'd like to meet.
Mar 08 00:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub nope
Mar 08 00:52:16 <mod6>	awe
Mar 08 00:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	it's not a business i know anything about whatsoever.
Mar 08 00:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	nor do i think it has much future
Mar 08 00:52:39 <BitHub>	and that's stopped you before?
Mar 08 00:52:41 <BitHub>	lulz
Mar 08 00:52:49 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub yea ?
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Mar 08 00:53:40 <BitHub>	meh fiats
Mar 08 00:53:58 <mircea_popescu>	accincta.
Mar 08 00:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	do you suppose they meant tits ?
Mar 08 00:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	or ass ?
Mar 08 00:55:32 <BitHub>	hehe
Mar 08 00:55:39 <mod6>	this next block should be sizeable
Mar 08 00:55:54 <BitHub>	its such a good word, i use it for slang all the time
Mar 08 00:56:16 <mod6>	but its a 250k limit so the joke's on me LOL
Mar 08 00:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	i never understood how that 250k limit got to be there
Mar 08 00:56:29 <BingoBongo>	mod6 I would bet my bet makes it in this next block...
Mar 08 00:56:39 <mod6>	yeah, it should
Mar 08 00:56:51 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: yeah, that seems pretty strange to me now.
Mar 08 00:56:53 <Bowjob>	1 TB limit
Mar 08 00:56:56 <Bowjob>	raise dat limit
Mar 08 00:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 and you see, here's the problem  :
Mar 08 00:57:19 <mircea_popescu>	recently i discovered the way bitcoind works is all quirky and based on assumptive limitations like that.
Mar 08 00:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	im starting to think one or several idiots can't code
Mar 08 00:57:33 <mircea_popescu>	and just write magic numbers everywhere
Mar 08 00:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	never heard of code and data sepparation etc.
Mar 08 00:58:27 <mod6>	do you believe there should be a block size limit at all?
Mar 08 00:58:32 <BingoBongo>	Another point for SD over most miners, BitcoinJ isn't as poorly coded as BitcoinD
Mar 08 00:58:47 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 well, that's moot. there was one to begin with.
Mar 08 00:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo i've never read it/used it
Mar 08 00:59:18 <mod6>	oh... it seems to me that if 1 billion people send 1 satoshi in 5 years, it could be a 10gb block... who cares, process it
Mar 08 00:59:42 <mod6>	maybe im just retarded
Mar 08 01:00:15 <mod6>	i have been hit in the head a lot :S
Mar 08 01:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 the problem here tho is that bitcoin as it is is bitcoin as it is.
Mar 08 01:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	if i get married to you on the understanding that you always wear red underwear
Mar 08 01:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	as stupid as that may turn out to be, it's still in the fucking contract
Mar 08 01:00:57 <BingoBongo>	mircea_popescu it still follows many of the arbitrary limits (because bitcoind), but the code organization is much better. Kind of sad because well, Java.
Mar 08 01:01:01 <mod6>	right, so yeah, they wrote it in, no going back.
Mar 08 01:01:17 <mircea_popescu>	now, the only way to change something like that is the way gavin proposed it
Mar 08 01:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	ie, "let they who have anything to lose decide where it should be"
Mar 08 01:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	they who have anything to lose are, of course, the miners. so a system where miners vote somehow on standard block size may be a replacement, maybe.
Mar 08 01:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo ya srsly. why the fuck do these people make these choices.
Mar 08 01:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	ruby on rails. java. what the fuck.
Mar 08 01:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it's a bad idea for coders to be allowed to chose their language.
Mar 08 01:03:02 <mod6>	na, gotta be able to pick the right tool for the job... but that doesn't always mean that the guy will make the best choice
Mar 08 01:03:12 <mod6>	i can still use a butter knife as a screwdriver
Mar 08 01:03:21 <mod6>	but its not best... im just retarded
Mar 08 01:03:31 <BingoBongo>	WordPress and a watch only wallet powered by ArmoryD is probably how I'd write a bitcoin site if I had to.
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Mar 08 01:04:08 <mod6>	yeah, wow. im blown away by some of this. how did I not zero in on these things?
Mar 08 01:04:23 <mod6>	its like punching myself in the dick
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Mar 08 01:04:48 <mod6>	;;bc,tslb
Mar 08 01:04:49 <gribble>	Time since last block: 41 minutes and 42 seconds
Mar 08 01:04:51 <mod6>	lol
Mar 08 01:06:34 <Bowjob>	s;;ticker
Mar 08 01:06:36 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 08 01:06:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.50000, Best ask: 42.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 42.50000, 24 hour volume: 78229.70545564, 24 hour low: 40.11000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.23642
Mar 08 01:06:56 <BingoBongo>	Honestly the miners'll probably roll with whatever, making the margins work is their business. Let the pool operators cap block sizes and open up the daemon for everyone else.
Mar 08 01:08:17 <BingoBongo>	mod6 the bet made it in, miracle what a decent transaction fee can do
Mar 08 01:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	there's problem with open ended blocksize
Mar 08 01:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	for one, the bloat
Mar 08 01:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	for the other, security strictly depends on the block being finite.
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Mar 08 01:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	and is inverse of the block length
Mar 08 01:10:16 <BingoBongo>	pragmatism will lead miners to cap the size of their own blocks unless they want to birth hydrocephalitic orphans
Mar 08 01:10:53 <mod6>	BingoBongo: ok thanks man, i see you got one conf in this block: http://blockchain.info/block-index/355466/00000000000003bbf75f37b8a331938d6fb7dc61addf7bf6a97e95f8c9c0e5f0
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Mar 08 01:11:44 <mod6>	right, well i guess you dont want people putting in the wayback machine into the blockchain...
Mar 08 01:11:48 <BingoBongo>	mod6 and it is the first one. BitBet shows the bet as registered as well
Mar 08 01:12:00 <mod6>	good deal.
Mar 08 01:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.vice.com/read/new-york-cops-will-arrest-you-for-carrying-condoms
Mar 08 01:12:09 <mircea_popescu>	progress
Mar 08 01:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	have a large soda in a condom
Mar 08 01:13:14 <mod6>	yeah they're a bunch of Fascists
Mar 08 01:13:31 <mod6>	hitler was against very against smoking too
Mar 08 01:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	"Maybe some quota-filling cop thinks you look like a whore."
Mar 08 01:14:27 <BingoBongo>	Eh, take Canthaxanthin for a few months and walk around New York, some Cop will grab a real good feel.
Mar 08 01:15:25 <mod6>	BingoBongo: 2 confs now...
Mar 08 01:15:50 <mod6>	so at least with your .0025 fee, that was good enough
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Mar 08 01:16:34 <BingoBongo>	mod6 It has been my standard fee for about a month now. I'm not patient enough to send with less.
Mar 08 01:18:25 <BingoBongo>	Even on small transactions it is cheaper than a wire
Mar 08 01:19:50 <mod6>	*nod*
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Mar 08 01:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	what's that one do ?
Mar 08 01:20:52 <BingoBongo>	Canthaxanthin is a tanning pill
Mar 08 01:21:01 <mod6>	lol
Mar 08 01:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	a
Mar 08 01:21:14 <mod6>	ok gentlemen.
Mar 08 01:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	10 cents. seems legit.
Mar 08 01:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/dita-von-teese-stuns-first-ever-3-d-175606524.html
Mar 08 01:21:59 <mircea_popescu>	no, she's not baring cunt. it's worse.
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Mar 08 01:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.63 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 01:36:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00072776 = 5.9312 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 01:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00075 = 3.8625 BTC [+]
Mar 08 01:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.96000001 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 01:40:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-]
Mar 08 01:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
Mar 08 01:41:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24998 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 01:56:47 <Rick__>	When will you fix MPEx
Mar 08 01:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	hi Rick__
Mar 08 01:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	hang on for a minute here.
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Mar 08 02:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	$post ew4aaH8L
Mar 08 02:00:51 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Server's response: http://pastebin.com/gZhCDu2b
Mar 08 02:01:01 <ZedsterX>	I just got up to having my comp hacked....so what is your sitch now MP?
Mar 08 02:02:10 <mircea_popescu>	$depth
Mar 08 02:02:11 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Server's response: http://pastebin.com/7iJS63TY
Mar 08 02:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap
Mar 08 02:02:16 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached
Mar 08 02:02:22 <smickles>	wtf?!!
Mar 08 02:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 08 02:02:36 <smickles>	i'm pro yo!
Mar 08 02:02:38 <ZedsterX>	anyone else in the channel have problem with attacks on their comp last night?
Mar 08 02:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	ok so! what you folks see here is a historical moment.
Mar 08 02:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	mpexbot is capable of proxing mpex trade server now.
Mar 08 02:03:01 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
Mar 08 02:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	cute.
Mar 08 02:04:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
Mar 08 02:04:30 <ZedsterX>	i guees not thx
Mar 08 02:04:45 <smickles>	for watever reason mpexbot's pro pastebin feature of posting >25 posts per day hasn't been enabled yet
Mar 08 02:04:49 <Rick__>	so what's mpexbot?
Mar 08 02:05:01 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ it is a method of talking to mpex that can not be ddosed
Mar 08 02:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	as it has no known ip.
Mar 08 02:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	now, mpex infrastructure is being upgraded, and it will be back sometime today.
Mar 08 02:05:25 <Rick__>	okay,understand a bit
Mar 08 02:05:46 <Rick__>	Okay cool
Mar 08 02:06:02 <Rick__>	so many computer things that I dont understand
Mar 08 02:06:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1337 @ 0.00075 = 1.0028 BTC [+]
Mar 08 02:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ :)
Mar 08 02:06:46 <BitHub>	1337
Mar 08 02:06:57 <mircea_popescu>	ok so, im closing the ordering now, because i don't want inconsistencies. this is all testnet stuff.
Mar 08 02:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	but the good news is here to stay. mpexbot.
Mar 08 02:07:55 <BitHub>	is it hard to make a ticker from your api mircea?
Mar 08 02:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	worst case scenario just moved to "if 10 Gb pipe isn't enough to stop ddos, we just trade via mpexbot"
Mar 08 02:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub not really an api but still,  i don't think so, it's all json after all.
Mar 08 02:09:13 <BitHub>	okey, hopefully i can feature a mpex ticker on my site soon, if its okey with you of course
Mar 08 02:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	surely.
Mar 08 02:10:03 <BitHub>	:) sweet
Mar 08 02:10:24 <Rick__>	so what's the s.dice price now?
Mar 08 02:10:47 <Rick__>	what command can I use to check the price
Mar 08 02:11:44 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ the price hasn't appreciably changed since trade has been locked for the past ~12 hours
Mar 08 02:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	the PTs trade about the same levels.
Mar 08 02:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct gsdpt
Mar 08 02:12:03 <assbot>	[BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.00596 / 0.00599 / 0.00599 (92 shares, 0.6 BTC),  7D: 0.00261 / 0.00621 / 0.0065 (28529 shares, 177.2 BTC), 30D: 0.00261 / 0.00621 / 0.00687 (139940 shares, 868.7 BTC)
Mar 08 02:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock sdice
Mar 08 02:12:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.41510000 / 0.4566318 / 0.51000000 (197 shares, 89.95646538 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.55221757 / 0.68700000 (1696 shares, 936.56099770 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.63685913 / 0.76500000 (8993 shares, 5727.27416254 BTC)
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Mar 08 02:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4999988 = 2 BTC [+]
Mar 08 02:13:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4999988 = 2.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 02:13:32 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 08 02:13:36 <Bowjob>	shoulda bought some dice shares
Mar 08 02:13:40 <Bowjob>	coulda arb'd by now
Mar 08 02:13:40 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 08 02:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49999999 BTC [+]
Mar 08 02:14:29 <deadweasel>	lordy they tanked on bitfunder, .004
Mar 08 02:14:35 <deadweasel>	are they higher somewheres else?
Mar 08 02:14:36 <BitHub>	jesus
Mar 08 02:14:42 <BitHub>	that is low
Mar 08 02:14:56 <maximian>	last s.dice trade on mpex was something like 0.0058
Mar 08 02:15:30 <maximian>	it rebounded
Mar 08 02:15:34 <ZedsterX>	gotta be in for the long haul and ho-pe or dump
Mar 08 02:15:43 <deadweasel>	what should I do with 1600 shares on bitfunder?
Mar 08 02:15:45 <deadweasel>	oh that
Mar 08 02:15:49 <deadweasel>	hold and hope
Mar 08 02:15:53 <BitHub>	i doubt s.dice will be here for the long run
Mar 08 02:16:07 <BitHub>	i would dump and pump into jah mining and collect daily divs
Mar 08 02:16:12 <BitHub>	that's what i been doin
Mar 08 02:16:29 <maximian>	I wouldn't be so sure about that. S.dice is more than just a dice game, it's a brand
Mar 08 02:16:44 <BitHub>	a brand>
Mar 08 02:16:46 <BitHub>	?
Mar 08 02:16:48 <deadweasel>	i had some jah, was good, but I can't get rid of these sdice.  bought at .55 sold at 75, then bought back in at .6 cos I'm still learning, that's why
Mar 08 02:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 08 02:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	so then if you sell at .4 you're even money
Mar 08 02:17:20 <BitHub>	just get rid of them all deadweasel
Mar 08 02:17:42 <deadweasel>	if they are 58 on mpex, know anybody who wants them at .55!
Mar 08 02:17:42 <BitHub>	and pump it into jah, anything you'll loose you'll make up in the dail divs
Mar 08 02:17:44 <deadweasel>	it's a firesale!
Mar 08 02:18:07 <maximian>	yes, building brand awareness is expensive. the value of s.dice's brand awareness justifies the stock price alone.
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Mar 08 02:18:22 <deadweasel>	yeah, i'm going for divs only stocks these days.  sdice may not make it to the next divs, as it is.  the brand may make it through w/out the assets
Mar 08 02:18:31 <maximian>	Some big gaming concern is probably going to come in and scoop up s.dice
Mar 08 02:18:42 <deadweasel>	exactly, no more bitcoin divs
Mar 08 02:18:52 <BitHub>	lul gaming company
Mar 08 02:18:53 <deadweasel>	they'
Mar 08 02:18:59 <ZedsterX>	who/where is JAH?
Mar 08 02:19:05 <BitHub>	the core of the community hates S.DICE
Mar 08 02:19:06 <maximian>	An acquisition would be a great exit for all investors
Mar 08 02:19:20 <BitHub>	its spam
Mar 08 02:19:21 <maximian>	That's not true - some of the core devs, not all
Mar 08 02:19:29 <BitHub>	we just had a 5 hour tango convo about this before
Mar 08 02:19:35 <BitHub>	sorry some :)
Mar 08 02:19:38 <maximian>	There are enough mining pools who will always confirm s.dice transactions
Mar 08 02:19:50 <deadweasel>	let's not start this again
Mar 08 02:19:56 <maximian>	agreed :)
Mar 08 02:20:02 <BitHub>	agreed :)
Mar 08 02:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 39 @ 0.5 = 19.5 BTC [+]
Mar 08 02:20:11 <BitHub>	its been a good day, have you seen all the giveaways on otc?
Mar 08 02:20:24 <BitHub>	i even got in on the action
Mar 08 02:20:42 <BitHub>	gave away some btc for twitter followers heh
Mar 08 02:21:17 <deadweasel>	that's good business right now.  +1s and followers and likes
Mar 08 02:21:36 <ZedsterX>	jah mining is on MPEX? I have never seen this or is it called something else
Mar 08 02:21:39 <deadweasel>	bitpride is going to do the same thing as sdice?
Mar 08 02:21:59 <BitHub>	yep when i eventually get into full marketing mode i'll pay offering btc tips for peeps who paste their address to me on twitter or fb
Mar 08 02:22:03 <BitHub>	:)
Mar 08 02:22:23 <BitHub>	better than fb's advertising system
Mar 08 02:22:24 <deadweasel>	you should automate it ---  mechanical turk for likes.
Mar 08 02:22:36 <deadweasel>	real people, can't get around that
Mar 08 02:22:37 <BitHub>	ahh i wish i could
Mar 08 02:22:41 <deadweasel>	you could
Mar 08 02:22:54 <BitHub>	but the coding, programming stuff, me doing it? is like getting the janitor to fly the airplane
Mar 08 02:22:58 <BitHub>	instead of a pilot
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Mar 08 02:23:14 <deadweasel>	spend some time to interview local college kids for an 'internship'.  orjust pay them shit
Mar 08 02:23:37 <deadweasel>	until you get bigger then hire a better coder and scrap and redo
Mar 08 02:23:37 <BitHub>	lul i'm paying a few programmers on here atm, slowly
Mar 08 02:23:41 <BitHub>	it gets exe
Mar 08 02:23:52 <deadweasel>	yup
Mar 08 02:24:00 <BitHub>	:)
Mar 08 02:24:04 <deadweasel>	get the ones from india
Mar 08 02:24:06 <Namworld>	ZedsterX: no
Mar 08 02:24:12 <deadweasel>	srsly though, expectations of bitpride?
Mar 08 02:24:26 <Namworld>	idk about bitpride
Mar 08 02:24:32 <BitHub>	um bitpride i was looking at those shares but felt a bit shy
Mar 08 02:24:40 <ZedsterX>	Namworld: thx so where is it listed?
Mar 08 02:24:45 <BitHub>	its cool its something different but i dont know
Mar 08 02:24:46 <Namworld>	I got a few shares for the heck of it.
Mar 08 02:24:54 <BitHub>	bitfunder.com
Mar 08 02:25:03 <deadweasel>	i'd just rather have my btc going up than my shares going down.
Mar 08 02:25:07 <Namworld>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/JAH
Mar 08 02:25:14 <ZedsterX>	was buttfunder pointed at me?
Mar 08 02:25:21 <ZedsterX>	hehe thx guys
Mar 08 02:25:26 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/7iJS63TY has been removed already
Mar 08 02:25:40 <BitHub>	is jah the only onepaying daily divs on BF?
Mar 08 02:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	maximian i think they die in 10 minutes
Mar 08 02:25:49 <BitHub>	everyone else is weekly or monthly yeah?
Mar 08 02:25:52 <maximian>	ah, ok
Mar 08 02:26:05 <maximian>	I like the idea… but what if pastebin gets DDoS'd?
Mar 08 02:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap
Mar 08 02:26:21 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached
Mar 08 02:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 08 02:26:27 <maximian>	that sucks
Mar 08 02:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	maximian move to a diff one
Mar 08 02:26:32 <maximian>	yeah
Mar 08 02:26:37 <maximian>	need a higher limit
Mar 08 02:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	maximian it's temporary tho. they've not credited the acct to pro status yet
Mar 08 02:26:50 <maximian>	i see
Mar 08 02:26:54 <BitHub>	ddos sucks
Mar 08 02:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the surface keeps growing.
Mar 08 02:27:12 <BitHub>	is it really hard to combat it?
Mar 08 02:27:22 <mircea_popescu>	now the attacker has to take out all pastebins too ?
Mar 08 02:27:26 <BitHub>	or just really expensive?
Mar 08 02:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub it's impossible to combat it, in principle.
Mar 08 02:27:53 <BitHub>	shitty
Mar 08 02:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	mpex is pretty much the only thing that even has a prayer at it, but otherwise... nope.
Mar 08 02:28:14 <BitHub>	ahh yep true
Mar 08 02:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	they ARE expensive to do tho, so in a sense a self limiting condition
Mar 08 02:28:17 <Rick__>	when will be the new version of bitvps's website on?
Mar 08 02:28:26 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ today.
Mar 08 02:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	o sorry
Mar 08 02:28:36 <BitHub>	any idea who's behind it?
Mar 08 02:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you were asking about mpecx
Mar 08 02:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub nope
Mar 08 02:28:47 <Rick__>	o,hehe
Mar 08 02:28:51 <BitHub>	bounty time?
Mar 08 02:29:08 <Rick__>	I have been waiting the new bitvps for a month
Mar 08 02:29:18 <Rick__>	they always say soon
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Mar 08 02:29:31 <Bowjob>	" * Show your support in asking the MPOE exchange where the S.DICE security is located, to de-list the security until the problem is addressed."
Mar 08 02:29:34 <BitHub>	free membership and 5btc to whoever finds
Mar 08 02:29:55 <Bowjob>	guys a huge dump is happening
Mar 08 02:30:01 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150493.0
Mar 08 02:30:14 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/
Mar 08 02:31:35 <maximian>	that misterbigg guy is a little slow
Mar 08 02:31:36 *	BitHub pressures mircea
Mar 08 02:31:53 <Bowjob>	just increase the min bet
Mar 08 02:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	maximian he;s a funny guy. he was active in the s.dice thread back in august
Mar 08 02:32:03 <Bowjob>	0.1 BTC per bet or gtfo
Mar 08 02:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	then the girl found out about his dirty past
Mar 08 02:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	so he took a break
Mar 08 02:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	i see he's back now
Mar 08 02:32:17 <maximian>	hehheh…I wonder why he bothers
Mar 08 02:32:33 <Bowjob>	well, it took like over an hour to confirm my tx last night
Mar 08 02:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is where the cool kids are. hard to stay away
Mar 08 02:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob i had some quwued for 6.
Mar 08 02:32:47 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 08 02:32:47 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 08 02:33:03 <Bowjob>	imo we need a compromise. this blockchain bloat is annoying
Mar 08 02:33:05 <deadweasel>	can i push from bitfunder to havelock?
Mar 08 02:33:18 <Bowjob>	how about increasing the min bet on all dice games
Mar 08 02:33:21 <Bowjob>	0.1 or gtfo
Mar 08 02:33:26 <Bowjob>	that seems reasonable
Mar 08 02:33:39 <deadweasel>	i like that idea, until BTC is worth $100, 1000
Mar 08 02:33:43 <BitHub>	it wouldn't be that hard to get s.dice shut down
Mar 08 02:33:47 <BitHub>	i mean really
Mar 08 02:34:06 <BitHub>	they're based in usa right?
Mar 08 02:34:11 <deadweasel>	I think Sdice needs to handle the issue on their end, do their own gambling fork.
Mar 08 02:34:20 <maximian>	I do like all this s.dice exposure… being talked about is what keeps it on top
Mar 08 02:34:21 <deadweasel>	i dunno I'm not a dev,
Mar 08 02:34:39 <deadweasel>	anyway, how could I get my SDICE from bitfunder to havelock?
Mar 08 02:34:39 <BitHub>	yeah its good pr for sure
Mar 08 02:35:39 <Namworld>	They could easily take bitcoin deposits and have a fork for the sole purpose of calculating lucky numbers, nay?
Mar 08 02:35:56 <BitHub>	i just hope s.dice pays taxes
Mar 08 02:35:59 <Namworld>	giving a fork balance that can be cashed out... inconvenient tho
Mar 08 02:36:01 <BitHub>	for their sake
Mar 08 02:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld nay
Mar 08 02:36:15 <Namworld>	I don't know about that.
Mar 08 02:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	it wouldn't be trustworthy.
Mar 08 02:37:48 <deadweasel>	yeah, i don't know.  I have no solutions.  just shrinking asset value.
Mar 08 02:37:52 <smickles>	gaaw, wtf are these people on about, do the really thing some script,ajax heavy site would do better against a sustained ddos than a few <tr> tags?
Mar 08 02:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	which people ?
Mar 08 02:38:18 <Bowjob>	the dice share holders will be opposed to delisting their shares
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Mar 08 02:38:23 <Bowjob>	wtf is mrbig thinking
Mar 08 02:38:28 <smickles>	people like that mrbig and such
Mar 08 02:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	define thinking.
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Mar 08 02:38:53 <mircea_popescu>	smickles the stupid want everything remade in their image
Mar 08 02:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	that such nonsense would require throwing away the edges doesn't worry them : they don't know what those are anyway
Mar 08 02:39:29 <smickles>	srsly, that was what I came back to when i went to the forum for the first time in a while
Mar 08 02:39:42 <smickles>	"grinds my gears" so to speak
Mar 08 02:40:08 <Bowjob>	the tx fees are there on top of the house edge yeah
Mar 08 02:40:12 <smickles>	and all the chuckleheads talking about raising the blocksize
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Mar 08 02:40:35 <smickles>	yogs! all of them yogs!
Mar 08 02:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 08 02:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	now imagine how bitcoin would work if it were you know... like fiat
Mar 08 02:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	where the mobile vulgus actually had power.
Mar 08 02:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	it's kind of interesting how this all worked out btw. the -otc and forum, home of the unwashed masses, all revolutionary and shit. the -assets, where the landed gentry naturally gathers, all conservative.
Mar 08 02:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	apparently all political history is contained within people themselves.
Mar 08 02:43:08 <smickles>	human nature at work
Mar 08 02:49:22 <BitHub>	so we're making history right now?
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Mar 08 02:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	well history is made all the time
Mar 08 02:54:59 <BitHub>	yeh but none of it really matters
Mar 08 02:55:14 <BitHub>	especially before the internet was born, real pointless stuff
Mar 08 02:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Mar 08 02:56:04 <BitHub>	i've liked how things have played out so far but are we about to see a real dark turn in the road?
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Mar 08 02:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	always the question.
Mar 08 02:56:59 <BitHub>	hmmm
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Mar 08 03:03:06 <OneMiner>	The whole issue is wildly overblown. Some extra action will be taken to penalize spammy transactions and the blocksize always had to go up at some point. Not right now though, I think.
Mar 08 03:04:26 <maximian>	the issue is very polarizing for some reason
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Mar 08 03:05:45 <maximian>	did mpexbot get ddos'd too?!
Mar 08 03:05:54 <OneMiner>	It's all the anarchists railing about the injustice (nay TYRANNY) of the concept that the blockchain shouldn't contain an unlimited amount of garbage.
Mar 08 03:06:33 <OneMiner>	Bah, I need to stop phrasing it that way. I'm not doing any good with this noise.
Mar 08 03:06:34 <maximian>	unlimited garbage is a problem, and needs to be dealt with
Mar 08 03:07:12 <OneMiner>	It will be worked out, I'm sure people will be upset for a while. But when the sun rises the next day things will look brighter.
Mar 08 03:07:19 <maximian>	agreed
Mar 08 03:07:46 <maximian>	the drama is compelling, hence the topic goes on and on
Mar 08 03:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	maximian haha nah
Mar 08 03:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner the problem is the definition, of course.
Mar 08 03:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	selecting what is garbage is an overstretch of the licenses granted.
Mar 08 03:08:59 <OneMiner>	We feed on it right? Here we are trying to adopt a new currency, pretty much out of the blue. Right away we are overly invested relative to the rest of the world. We are all a bit nutty.
Mar 08 03:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	or in other words, the president don't have that authority.
Mar 08 03:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://thebotnet.com/guides-and-tutorials/49828-how-to-access-the-hidden-wiki/
Mar 08 03:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	that first post is hysterical.
Mar 08 03:10:00 <OneMiner>	mircea_popescu Except in this case we do have the authority. It's a collective as opposed to unilateral action.
Mar 08 03:10:15 <mircea_popescu>	"a collective" is scarce basis for authority.
Mar 08 03:10:25 <OneMiner>	What would be your standard?
Mar 08 03:10:46 <OneMiner>	We all choose which clients to run right? There's the vote right there.
Mar 08 03:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	unless you get your subject to agree with you, there's no basis.
Mar 08 03:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Mar 08 03:10:59 <OneMiner>	Bam, problem solved.
Mar 08 03:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.5 = 13 BTC [+]
Mar 08 03:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	if it actually was solvable that way therer wouldn't be all the whining.
Mar 08 03:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	the problem is tghat there's no problem, and random selection of idiots are trying to manufacture one for poluitical reasons.
Mar 08 03:11:40 <mircea_popescu>	which is ridiuclous, but hey, americans.
Mar 08 03:11:40 <OneMiner>	Well... It WILL be solved that way and there STILL will be whining.
Mar 08 03:11:49 <mircea_popescu>	thats how much they can do.
Mar 08 03:13:00 <OneMiner>	It's ok though. The alt coins proove that there is no absolute authority. Miners each have a choice of what transactions to include, the world keep turning.
Mar 08 03:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	indubitably.
Mar 08 03:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny tho, because in real world politics people consider the media's focusing on margianl nonissues as signs of some sort of conspiracy.
Mar 08 03:13:57 <mircea_popescu>	yet in bitcoin there's no media, and yet in bitcoin people focus on marginal nonissues instead of facing the hard stuff. like fixing the damned client.
Mar 08 03:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	no conspiracy. just... the nature of the human herd.
Mar 08 03:14:20 <OneMiner>	Cool. I just wanted to pop in with that PSA, the topic is on everybodies mind. :P  I've been speaking about this all day. I'm going to bed. :)
Mar 08 03:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	nn
Mar 08 03:15:15 <Namworld>	Damn... MPEx needs to come back up. I want to put some orders in =/
Mar 08 03:15:43 <OneMiner>	I don't hold their views against them. The details do matter. Maybe it's the need for sleep but I can sympathize to a degree.
Mar 08 03:16:12 <maximian>	I have mpex withdrawal myself
Mar 08 03:16:12 <OneMiner>	nn
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Mar 08 03:17:52 <smickles>	$vwap
Mar 08 03:17:54 <mpexbot>	smickles: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached
Mar 08 03:18:03 <smickles>	scumbag pastebin
Mar 08 03:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	eh wtf is with them ppls.
Mar 08 03:18:23 <smickles>	they have an excellent business model
Mar 08 03:18:28 <smickles>	1. take you money
Mar 08 03:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	ya. charge and don't deliver
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Mar 08 03:40:10 <Namworld>	What's the new time estimates on MPEx availability?
Mar 08 03:40:42 <Namworld>	Should I just go sleep and come back tomorrow or is it almost done?
Mar 08 03:41:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.0342 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 03:47:37 <ZedsterX>	looks like time for bed
Mar 08 03:48:08 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 08 03:48:19 <Namworld>	Nothing else to do.
Mar 08 03:48:29 <Namworld>	Goodbye
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Mar 08 04:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	namworld actually imminent
Mar 08 04:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	o boy poor guy
Mar 08 04:01:41 <BitHub>	hehe
Mar 08 04:03:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+]
Mar 08 04:04:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.089 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 08 04:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	maximian ^
Mar 08 04:06:50 <maximian>	ahhh…. relief
Mar 08 04:07:03 <maximian>	ty
Mar 08 04:07:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.005978 = 0.0179 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:07:41 <maximian>	so this is on the new 10Gb connection?
Mar 08 04:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 450 @ 0.18400178 = 82.8008 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	ill be around to process withdrawals/deposits for anyone needing.
Mar 08 04:09:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00195 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 04:09:51 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2013/03/08/a-letter-to-my-son/
Mar 08 04:10:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 815 @ 0.13708413 = 111.7236 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 04:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	you have a son ?!
Mar 08 04:10:45 <jcpham>	youngest bitcoin owner ever
Mar 08 04:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 680 @ 0.11119696 = 75.6139 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:10:56 <mircea_popescu>	interesting, puts are covering ?!
Mar 08 04:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 100 @ 0.06940607 = 6.9406 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	learn something every day.
Mar 08 04:13:08 <jcpham>	is 2175 the correct year
Mar 08 04:13:14 <jcpham>	why can i not verify that
Mar 08 04:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 650 @ 0.05313042 = 34.5348 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 04:16:06 <jcpham>	also i'm serious about a screenplay
Mar 08 04:16:15 <jcpham>	consider that an opening a prologue
Mar 08 04:16:24 <Namworld>	I think I'll stay until my MPEx deposit is processed.
Mar 08 04:16:26 <jcpham>	opening scene
Mar 08 04:16:30 <jcpham>	kid open letter
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Mar 08 04:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is backwards world.
Mar 08 04:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	mpex is closed for a day, when it reopens everyone wants to deposit.
Mar 08 04:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	i imagined there'd be withdrawals
Mar 08 04:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld hey
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Mar 08 04:17:42 <mjr__>	lol nice
Mar 08 04:17:45 <Namworld>	Why? Because someone DDoS it?
Mar 08 04:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	i was just saying, poor guy. you went off like 5 minutes before
Mar 08 04:18:03 <maximian>	anyone who isn't a nervous nelly knows that it was just a temporary issue
Mar 08 04:18:10 <Namworld>	Yeah, well sleeping is not my forte.
Mar 08 04:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha good 1
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Mar 08 04:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 20 @ 0.05216909 = 1.0434 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:19:10 <jurov>	hi Namworld, can i redirect coinbr.com to bitvps, should the need arise?
Mar 08 04:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	halelujah some calls.
Mar 08 04:19:37 <mjr__>	mpex is back up?
Mar 08 04:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	mjr__ yeh
Mar 08 04:20:12 <Namworld>	I'd prefer if you didn't...
Mar 08 04:20:17 <jurov>	;)
Mar 08 04:20:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 08 04:20:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 195 @ 0.06938646 = 13.5304 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:20:50 <BitHub>	mpex trading via social media when its down?
Mar 08 04:21:14 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub but it's not down.
Mar 08 04:21:14 <jurov>	yes, facebook app coming shortly
Mar 08 04:21:24 <BitHub>	hehe
Mar 08 04:22:03 <jurov>	but twatter wouldn't be bad... if they had sane interface
Mar 08 04:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C270T] 214 @ 0.37437884 = 80.1171 BTC [+]
Mar 08 04:22:25 <mircea_popescu>	now those must have been some juicy calls.
Mar 08 04:22:32 <BitHub>	yeah that's what im thinking, twitter could come in handy for situations like that
Mar 08 04:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7076 @ 0.00072764 = 5.1488 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:23:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00069034 = 31.4105 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:23:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42424 @ 0.00067334 = 28.5658 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:23:47 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: so what about http://mpex.co ?
Mar 08 04:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 78 @ 0.00413 = 0.3221 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:24:10 <Namworld>	still being DDoS'ed I presume
Mar 08 04:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	maximian there's a lot of hardware being set up. i wanted to get people a lifeline as soon as possible
Mar 08 04:24:32 <maximian>	ok
Mar 08 04:24:41 <maximian>	not critical anyway
Mar 08 04:24:59 <mircea_popescu>	access may be spotty over the next coupla days as everything's being assembled, but hey.
Mar 08 04:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	better than stone cold, i would think.
Mar 08 04:25:24 <maximian>	as long as trades can be executed, it's all good
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Mar 08 04:25:57 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham if your son's called jackson are you jack ?
Mar 08 04:26:10 <jcpham>	definitely
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Mar 08 04:26:58 <jcpham>	he has the same initals as me so he can assume my identity one day
Mar 08 04:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 445 @ 0.08865601 = 39.4519 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:27:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00588401 BTC [+]
Mar 08 04:27:16 <jcpham>	people can live forever on the internet you know
Mar 08 04:27:22 <jcpham>	or at least an identity can
Mar 08 04:27:26 <Bowjob>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozWGvWpEamU
Mar 08 04:27:28 <mircea_popescu>	aha
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Mar 08 04:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 750 @ 0.20943788 = 157.0784 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 04:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C290T] 389 @ 0.3278143 = 127.5198 BTC [+]
Mar 08 04:34:26 <Namworld>	hmm
Mar 08 04:34:42 <Namworld>	Who sold those P490T?
Mar 08 04:34:51 <jurov>	you did
Mar 08 04:35:06 <Namworld>	Nope.
Mar 08 04:35:31 <Namworld>	But if someone still wants to sell a few, I'd take some.
Mar 08 04:35:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [-]
Mar 08 04:35:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 176 @ 0.00899 = 1.5822 BTC [+]
Mar 08 04:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	it seems to me most sales are either deep calls  takingprofits
Mar 08 04:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	or short plays like puts trying to cut losses
Mar 08 04:36:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 150 @ 0.009 = 1.35 BTC [+]
Mar 08 04:36:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 43 @ 0.01 = 0.43 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 04:36:53 <Namworld>	maybe
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Mar 08 04:38:25 <mircea_popescu>	"The properties and procedures of bitcoin can solve real world problems like voting and tokenization, but for now, we use it as money."
Mar 08 04:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	"and we bitch like a virgin in hell if anyone explores alternate uses"
Mar 08 04:38:57 <Schadenfreude>	What's going on with coinbr?
Mar 08 04:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
Mar 08 04:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude what is ?
Mar 08 04:42:57 <Schadenfreude>	Ah, figures, they removed https during maintenance
Mar 08 04:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	he's moved hosts iirc
Mar 08 04:50:13 <Bowjob>	http://life.nationalpost.com/2013/03/06/ultra-exclusive-4-7-million-lamborghini-veneno-to-challenge-ferrari-and-mclaren/
Mar 08 04:50:46 <Bowjob>	I'll pay maybe 50 bitcoins for that
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Mar 08 04:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 08 05:00:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 225 @ 0.20947704 = 47.1323 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 05:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 85 @ 0.23623458 = 20.0799 BTC [-]
Mar 08 05:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200000 @ 0.00075 = 150 BTC [+]
Mar 08 05:12:43 <Bowjob>	http://www.pinballcoin.com/#
Mar 08 05:12:46 <Bowjob>	this looks fun
Mar 08 05:12:47 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 08 05:23:02 <error4733>	haha 11 fail on pinballcoin
Mar 08 05:23:11 <Bowjob>	what happened on 11
Mar 08 05:23:12 <Bowjob>	i didnt see it
Mar 08 05:23:13 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 08 05:23:28 <Bowjob>	still pending
Mar 08 05:23:31 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 08 05:23:47 <error4733>	12 same
Mar 08 05:23:53 <Bowjob>	do you see it if i spam the free button?
Mar 08 05:24:14 <error4733>	and me ?
Mar 08 05:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	Up to 17.5 million RBS banking group customers were left without their money last night as the bank’s systems crashed.
Mar 08 05:24:39 <Bowjob>	Mhm, is the free button provably fair
Mar 08 05:24:41 <Bowjob>	i seem to lose a lot
Mar 08 05:24:42 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 08 05:24:57 <Bowjob>	shouldnt i win a lot on the free button
Mar 08 05:25:56 <Namworld>	the center stuff have way more paths leading to them than others... assuming each spot has the actual odds the same as if the coin had 50% falling either side of each nail.
Mar 08 05:27:07 <Bowjob>	i hit a 5
Mar 08 05:28:09 <error4733>	cool, add then with all your imaginary coin
Mar 08 05:28:10 <Bowjob>	mhm, i hit the free button 104 times, i made my browser slow to a crawl
Mar 08 05:28:28 <jurov>	finally managed to sneak into my bitvps vps..
Mar 08 05:28:37 <jurov>	just did mount / -f -o remount,ro ; dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/root
Mar 08 05:28:46 <jurov>	>:D
Mar 08 05:29:27 <jurov>	leave burned ground to them
Mar 08 05:29:33 <error4733>	haaa fail, i just try but with instawallet
Mar 08 05:30:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 05:38:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00075 = 13.5 BTC [+]
Mar 08 05:42:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [-]
Mar 08 05:45:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00801 BTC [-]
Mar 08 05:45:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-]
Mar 08 05:45:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 77 @ 0.00725 = 0.5583 BTC [-]
Mar 08 05:56:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.65 = 3.9 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 06:13:58 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer? :)
Mar 08 06:14:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 335 @ 0.65 = 217.75 BTC [-]
Mar 08 06:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	starting to move a little.
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Mar 08 06:14:48 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc asicminer-pt
Mar 08 06:14:49 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.65 / 0.65 (383 shares, 249 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.65004 / 0.655 (625 shares, 406.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.65004 / 0.655 (625 shares, 406.3 BTC)
Mar 08 06:14:52 <Chaang-Noi>	price or volume?
Mar 08 06:14:58 <mircea_popescu>	volume is what i meant
Mar 08 06:15:20 <Chaang-Noi>	otc there was a lot of movement
Mar 08 06:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	ah
Mar 08 06:15:40 <Chaang-Noi>	more than 10,000 shares sold in the last 2 to 3 weeks
Mar 08 06:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	price seems glued to 65 tho
Mar 08 06:15:59 <Chaang-Noi>	that was my fault, im fixing that right now
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Mar 08 06:16:39 <Chaang-Noi>	only 40 shares left at .65 and then im no longer under contract to sell at that price
Mar 08 06:17:20 <Chaang-Noi>	after bfl fails to ship and asicminer gets 50% of the network i think 1.5 btc might trade
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Mar 08 06:19:44 <Chaang-Noi>	you still getting ddossed?
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Mar 08 06:23:06 <TradeFortress>	well it looks likes it
Mar 08 06:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Mar 08 06:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	use mpex.coinbr.com for now.
Mar 08 06:25:36 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, are they just targeting mpex.co and not mpex.coinbr.com?
Mar 08 06:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Mar 08 06:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	i used tghe ddos to make a lot of upgrades, not everything's ready to come up online
Mar 08 06:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	but i wanted to open up trade for people, so
Mar 08 06:26:35 <mircea_popescu>	sorta midway solution for now.
Mar 08 06:30:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 675 @ 0.15947462 = 107.6454 BTC [-]
Mar 08 06:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i notice you're conspicuously absent https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1599582#msg1599582
Mar 08 06:35:25 <mircea_popescu>	and wtf is going on in these people's heads, they're simultaneously arguing which exchanges should list and delist s.dice
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Mar 08 06:35:41 <mircea_popescu>	what is this, the dictature of the proletariat or someshit ?! who even asked them.
Mar 08 06:37:19 <Namworld>	Why is the return amount needed on losses?
Mar 08 06:37:34 <Namworld>	the 1 satoshi or so outputs by S.DICE?
Mar 08 06:37:53 <BitHub>	bitcoin isn't a dictatorship?
Mar 08 06:38:34 <Namworld>	Can't Erik remove those? I don't see much point anyway. You can check your lucky number regardless... If you don't win, don't confirm by sending 1 satoshi?
Mar 08 06:40:31 <Ukto>	heh
Mar 08 06:40:38 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: they are just going overkill
Mar 08 06:40:40 <Ukto>	it wont happen
Mar 08 06:40:53 <Ukto>	I was talking to Erik the other day
Mar 08 06:40:59 <Ukto>	yesterday? day before
Mar 08 06:41:01 *	Ukto eyes the time
Mar 08 06:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4600001 = 2.3 BTC [-]
Mar 08 06:41:06 <Ukto>	not worth posting
Mar 08 06:41:39 <Namworld>	No, but is the 1 satoshi return on loss needed?
Mar 08 06:41:48 <Namworld>	Seems that part could be killed at least
Mar 08 06:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i guess maybe that is in fact superfluous
Mar 08 06:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea why they do it this way.
Mar 08 06:43:48 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: is erik even under any kind of permentant "cant just up and move" contract with mpex anyways?
Mar 08 06:43:53 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 08 06:44:09 <Ukto>	how to enforce?
Mar 08 06:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	some people stick to their contracts ?
Mar 08 06:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	what enforce.
Mar 08 06:44:29 <Ukto>	i mean, seems a bit draconian ?
Mar 08 06:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Mar 08 06:44:39 <Ukto>	"you can never leave"
Mar 08 06:44:43 <Ukto>	i dunno
Mar 08 06:44:43 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, yet BF does the 2nf most volume
Mar 08 06:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto if you think about it the only practical effect it has is it prevents accounting becoming a mess a la asicminer.
Mar 08 06:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	or whatever other post-glbse assets
Mar 08 06:45:30 *	Ukto points to bvps
Mar 08 06:45:32 <Ukto>	it worked fine there
Mar 08 06:45:47 <Namworld>	SD offers a lookup tool to check your lucky numbers anyway. If you lose, you can see it from the tool.
Mar 08 06:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't get that impression.
Mar 08 06:45:52 <Ukto>	Namworld ?
Mar 08 06:45:56 <mircea_popescu>	even with the relatively few shareholders.
Mar 08 06:46:03 <Namworld>	A lookup search box should be palced prominently on SD
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Mar 08 06:46:18 <Ukto>	Namworld: join the conversation for a sec pls :P
Mar 08 06:46:20 <Namworld>	If you don't win, don't reply with a 1 satoshi transaction
Mar 08 06:46:25 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i dunno, did erik even say at any point why they're sending it that way ?
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Mar 08 06:47:00 <Namworld>	no... I guess so people know the bet has been processed?
Mar 08 06:47:06 <Namworld>	and that they lost?
Mar 08 06:47:09 <TradeFortress>	Namworld, people want to know if they won or not
Mar 08 06:47:25 <Namworld>	You can check that without a transaction... that's the point
Mar 08 06:47:40 <Namworld>	The 1 satoshi "You lose" transaction is kind of pointless.
Mar 08 06:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	well it does give closure on the spot
Mar 08 06:47:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 40 @ 0.65 = 26 BTC [-]
Mar 08 06:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	maybe that's what it was.
Mar 08 06:48:08 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh i was going to buy them shares
Mar 08 06:48:10 <TradeFortress>	It worked pretty well in the early ages
Mar 08 06:48:17 <TradeFortress>	Maybe it's due for a change now.
Mar 08 06:48:22 <mircea_popescu>	ya, possibly something that's no longer needed
Mar 08 06:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	has erik commented on the thing at all ?
Mar 08 06:48:35 <Namworld>	Not sure...
Mar 08 06:48:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 105 @ 0.05283354 = 5.5475 BTC [-]
Mar 08 06:49:02 <Namworld>	I don't want to read 1 billion forum posts and stupidities just to find if Erik ever considered/commented
Mar 08 06:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	heh yeah.
Mar 08 06:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure what their point is anyway. "unspendable" ?!
Mar 08 06:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	well holly molly, if 1 satoshi is unspendable then what are we doing here
Mar 08 06:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	basically bitcoin will die a thermic death
Mar 08 06:50:15 <mircea_popescu>	of satoshi
Mar 08 06:51:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 08 06:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	how come colored coins are spendable but satoshi aren't ? isn't this exactly the same thing ?
Mar 08 06:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps im missing something.
Mar 08 06:52:14 <TradeFortress>	it bloats the unspent inputs
Mar 08 06:52:33 <mircea_popescu>	ok
Mar 08 06:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	but there must be a mechanism to reclaim those
Mar 08 06:52:49 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise we slowly leak btc
Mar 08 06:53:59 <Namworld>	apparently not... 1 satoshi takes more fees to transact than the satoshi itself.
Mar 08 06:54:10 <Namworld>	and people tend to exclude 1 satoshi transactions
Mar 08 06:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	interesting
Mar 08 06:54:55 <Namworld>	I guess that's mostly that. Not that it's actually impossible to try to send it without any fee.
Mar 08 06:55:01 <Bowjob>	http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19utdu/hey_rstarcraft_its_my_7th_cake_day_and_youre_my/
Mar 08 06:55:06 <Bowjob>	Free 1 dollar to everyone
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Mar 08 06:55:11 <Bowjob>	just commen
Mar 08 06:55:12 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 08 06:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld if they get to be old enough don't they become free ?
Mar 08 06:56:27 <Chaang-Noi>	have some dust in wallet, send to dice for lulz to get rid of it, win under12000     lol
Mar 08 06:56:45 <mircea_popescu>	you can't really spend specified inputs can you
Mar 08 06:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	or are you using the pythin toolbox
Mar 08 06:57:45 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, any output smaller than 0.01 requires fee
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Mar 08 06:57:59 <TradeFortress>	so you can't send 1 satoshi. must send a million 1 satoshi inputs and the size of TX will make fees kill
Mar 08 06:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress days destroyed ruyles don't appply ?
Mar 08 06:58:16 <TradeFortress>	nope.
Mar 08 06:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Mar 08 06:58:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.005977 BTC [-]
Mar 08 06:58:32 <Namworld>	I see
Mar 08 06:58:42 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder why ?
Mar 08 06:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	more of the same magic number business i guess
Mar 08 06:59:07 <TradeFortress>	It's to apply a penalty to people who try to bloat the blockchain
Mar 08 06:59:14 <Namworld>	I believe in making hardblocks
Mar 08 06:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	i don't care so much what people intend to do TradeFortress
Mar 08 06:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	the point is that serious coders don't use magic numbers.
Mar 08 07:00:00 <Namworld>	and prunning the blockchain
Mar 08 07:00:10 <TradeFortress>	then be a miner and choose which TXes to accept :)
Mar 08 07:00:37 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 08 07:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	but its more of a codingissue
Mar 08 07:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	how did they come up with 0,01 ?
Mar 08 07:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	why not e / 100
Mar 08 07:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	why not fifty bitcoins
Mar 08 07:01:12 <TradeFortress>	because a small group of coders decided on it. a customizable fee system would be better
Mar 08 07:01:21 <TradeFortress>	set your own fee policy.
Mar 08 07:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	stupid way to code, this.
Mar 08 07:02:22 <TradeFortress>	it could (not saying it is) be based on the cost it takes to process/store the TX
Mar 08 07:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	and for that matter, if you're trying to apply a penalty to people who tryt to bloat the blockchain
Mar 08 07:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	you want to impose a fee on txs that have small OUTPOUTS
Mar 08 07:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	not small inputs.
Mar 08 07:02:50 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, it is small outputs!
Mar 08 07:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	if it is small outputs
Mar 08 07:03:06 <TradeFortress>	<TradeFortress> mircea_popescu, any output smaller than 0.01 requires fee
Mar 08 07:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	then i can use 10 satoshi inputs just fine
Mar 08 07:03:38 <TradeFortress>	sure, but you need tons of them, and kb fee.
Mar 08 07:03:48 <TradeFortress>	either way the fee system isn't optimal
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Mar 08 07:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	okay, im off. later all
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Mar 08 07:11:59 <Namworld>	later
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Mar 08 07:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4600001 = 2.3 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 07:28:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.00071 = 0.142 BTC [+]
Mar 08 07:28:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 191 @ 0.0007 = 0.1337 BTC [-]
Mar 08 07:28:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 137 @ 0.0007 = 0.0959 BTC [-]
Mar 08 07:28:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 391 @ 0.0007 = 0.2737 BTC [-]
Mar 08 07:32:25 <Bowjob>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WCTn4FljUQ
Mar 08 07:32:26 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 08 07:33:17 <Bowjob>	5 dollars per hour to use the internet? what robbery
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Mar 08 08:02:04 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 08 08:02:26 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Mar 08 08:03:53 <thestrin1puller>	mircea stop fucking up mpex is down
Mar 08 08:04:44 <Namworld>	MPEx still being DDoS'ed
Mar 08 08:04:52 <Namworld>	MPEx is still fine
Mar 08 08:05:06 <thestrin1puller>	I wouldn't know if I can receive data it's down to me.
Mar 08 08:05:14 <thestrin1puller>	smickles said it wasn't accepting trades last night
Mar 08 08:05:19 <thestrin1puller>	irrelevant I"m late for school
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Mar 08 08:05:25 <Namworld>	Was getting an upgrade last night
Mar 08 08:05:26 <Namworld>	http://mpex.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE
Mar 08 08:05:39 <Namworld>	You can access again now through proxy
Mar 08 08:05:45 <Namworld>	like coinbr's
Mar 08 08:05:51 <Namworld>	and trade
Mar 08 08:06:00 <thestrin1puller>	there is a .00007 BTC spread?????
Mar 08 08:06:00 <Namworld>	just not on mpex.co
Mar 08 08:06:08 <thestrin1puller>	WTF IS GOING ON
Mar 08 08:08:48 <Namworld>	Well not much people trading
Mar 08 08:08:53 <Namworld>	or placing orders
Mar 08 08:09:02 <Namworld>	I guess because they don't know about using the proxy
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Mar 08 08:18:05 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 08 08:18:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.61324, Best ask: 42.99994, Bid-ask spread: 0.38670, Last trade: 42.99994, 24 hour volume: 65775.47690017, 24 hour low: 40.83579, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.18512
Mar 08 08:18:17 <scrybe>	is coinbr itself up?
Mar 08 08:22:43 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone have the link to that chart service that works? i formated and lost it
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Mar 08 08:25:54 <Bowjob>	so calm
Mar 08 08:26:03 <Bowjob>	bitcoin price is..
Mar 08 08:26:58 <blu3gr1ffon>	after that last tantrum, it should be.
Mar 08 08:27:09 <Troic_>	http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE ?
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Mar 08 09:02:08 <blu3gr1ffon>	BBET, SDICE, BITPRIDE.....  how did I end up with such shit assets at just the wrong time?
Mar 08 09:02:28 <blu3gr1ffon>	I blame everyone but myself.
Mar 08 09:02:42 *	blu3gr1ffon actually is flogging himself with a cat o nine tails
Mar 08 09:04:04 <Namworld>	What's wrong with those?
Mar 08 09:04:16 <Namworld>	except BBET
Mar 08 09:04:24 <Namworld>	BBET is overpriced IMO
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Mar 08 09:05:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09998 BTC [+]
Mar 08 09:06:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 17 @ 0.00999 = 0.1698 BTC [+]
Mar 08 09:08:07 <blu3gr1ffon>	they only seem to lose value slowly.
Mar 08 09:08:39 <blu3gr1ffon>	except quick jumps where the ones who can constantly watch dump.
Mar 08 09:08:59 <blu3gr1ffon>	i'm honestly just getting sick and looking at bitfunder is making me cranky.
Mar 08 09:09:13 <blu3gr1ffon>	fuck me, I might as well go do some work.
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Mar 08 09:12:00 <Namworld>	Well MPEx is getting DDoS'ed... but it looks fine otherwise. Still working, not hacked or anything.
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Mar 08 09:18:50 <pgp>	is coinbr back up?
Mar 08 09:18:52 <maximian>	blu3gr1ffon give s.dice some time… it'll recover. the fundamentals are still sound.
Mar 08 09:19:28 <pgp>	different address?
Mar 08 09:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4999988 = 2.5 BTC [+]
Mar 08 09:23:12 <pgp>	anyone?  I see that MPEX is back up through coinbr, but can't seem to get to coinbr itself...
Mar 08 09:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.5 = 3.5 BTC [+]
Mar 08 09:24:13 <Namworld>	DDoS issues
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Mar 08 09:44:47 <Anduck>	bbet BUY is at 0.00150000 btc.. that is 150000 satoshi. and they pay div of 54 satoshi
Mar 08 09:45:07 <Anduck>	thats 0,00036 % div
Mar 08 09:45:10 <Anduck>	think about it
Mar 08 09:45:40 <Anduck>	S.DICE buy is at 0.00413002 btc.. that is 413002 satoshi
Mar 08 09:46:00 <Anduck>	and their last div was 13242 satoshi
Mar 08 09:46:25 <Anduck>	that's 3% div
Mar 08 09:46:38 <Anduck>	and yeah sorry, bbet div was 0,036 %
Mar 08 09:46:54 <Anduck>	so i'd make a conclusion of this: bbet is 100x overpriced
Mar 08 09:47:03 <Anduck>	100 times - think about that
Mar 08 09:47:37 <ZedsterX>	you just talkin to ur self there big guy?
Mar 08 09:47:52 *	ZedsterX thinking about it
Mar 08 09:48:26 <Anduck>	ahh! first one to announce he's got BBET shares, ZedsterX !!!
Mar 08 09:48:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 08 09:48:51 <Anduck>	(also fyi IRC messages aint vanishing even though nobody would read them asap they pop up)
Mar 08 09:49:02 <ZedsterX>	hehe a few in LTC though...BTC to rich for my blood
Mar 08 09:49:16 <Anduck>	but srsly, how much have you "invested" in S.BBET?
Mar 08 09:49:28 <Anduck>	1 btc?
Mar 08 09:49:30 <Anduck>	10 btc?
Mar 08 09:49:44 <ZedsterX>	lol maybe 100 ltc
Mar 08 09:50:31 <ZedsterX>	and you know your talkin bad about MPs stock right?
Mar 08 09:51:28 <pigeons>	ooooo
Mar 08 09:51:44 <ZedsterX>	learning with LTC is much easier on the heart
Mar 08 09:53:01 <Anduck>	ZedsterX: yes i know i'm talking about his stock, yes!!
Mar 08 09:53:11 <Anduck>	kakob and mp made s.bbet yes
Mar 08 09:53:20 <Anduck>	but srsly
Mar 08 09:53:27 <Anduck>	dont you guys see the overpricing??
Mar 08 09:53:40 <Anduck>	they pay 54 SATOSHIs div and it's valued at 1/4 of s.dice
Mar 08 09:53:46 <Anduck>	and s.dice pays 15000 satoshis
Mar 08 09:54:35 <pigeons>	yes we see that ;)
Mar 08 09:56:16 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,24hrpc
Mar 08 09:56:17 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrpc" is not a valid command.
Mar 08 09:56:25 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,24pc
Mar 08 09:56:25 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24pc" is not a valid command.
Mar 08 09:56:31 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,hrpc
Mar 08 09:56:31 <gribble>	Error: "bc,hrpc" is not a valid command.
Mar 08 09:56:42 <thestrin1puller>	;;help
Mar 08 09:56:43 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Mar 08 09:56:49 <thestrin1puller>	;;help bc
Mar 08 09:56:50 <gribble>	Error: There is no command "bc".
Mar 08 09:57:00 <thestrin1puller>	;;help bc,stats
Mar 08 09:57:00 <gribble>	(bc,stats <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "bcstats $*".
Mar 08 09:57:05 <kakobrekla>	Anduck the thing is, stock market is not about the dividend or the ROI
Mar 08 09:57:12 <Anduck>	bullshit.
Mar 08 09:57:25 <thestrin1puller>	kakobrekla: whats the command for hr price
Mar 08 09:57:26 <Anduck>	it should always -in some scale- mirror it.
Mar 08 09:57:34 <Anduck>	sorry but thats just the way it is.
Mar 08 09:57:42 <kakobrekla>	thats the way you think it is.
Mar 08 09:57:44 <Anduck>	well
Mar 08 09:57:53 <Anduck>	okay, tell me, kakobrekla, how are bitbet.us going to advance?
Mar 08 09:58:09 <thestrin1puller>	24hr prc
Mar 08 09:58:18 <Anduck>	the current price of that stock is -pure hype-
Mar 08 09:58:19 <kakobrekla>	advance?
Mar 08 09:58:21 <Anduck>	i mean..
Mar 08 09:58:23 <kakobrekla>	right.
Mar 08 09:58:29 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,24hrprc
Mar 08 09:58:30 <Anduck>	how would you ever going to get 3% div like s.dice?
Mar 08 09:58:30 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 08 09:58:33 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,24hrpc
Mar 08 09:58:33 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrpc" is not a valid command.
Mar 08 09:58:34 <kakobrekla>	so much hype so much volume
Mar 08 09:58:36 <Anduck>	or even 0.1% div?
Mar 08 09:58:37 <kakobrekla>	its a bubble!
Mar 08 09:58:56 <Anduck>	well investors of S.BBET are -never- going to meet the ROI
Mar 08 09:58:59 <Anduck>	truth.
Mar 08 09:59:07 <thestrin1puller>	kakobrekla: did smickles pay you yet?
Mar 08 09:59:08 <Anduck>	investors of S.DICE will
Mar 08 09:59:14 <kakobrekla>	thestrin1puller no.
Mar 08 09:59:32 <thestrin1puller>	whats thr bc 24 hr command? lol
Mar 08 09:59:32 <kakobrekla>	Anduck i made 10 times the dividend payments on sdice with trading
Mar 08 09:59:38 <Anduck>	yeah
Mar 08 09:59:43 <Anduck>	me too
Mar 08 09:59:46 <Anduck>	but it's not the point
Mar 08 09:59:55 <kakobrekla>	lol ok
Mar 08 10:00:00 <Anduck>	the point is, nobody wants S.BBET since it doesnt give its owners anything
Mar 08 10:00:01 <Anduck>	right?
Mar 08 10:00:19 <Anduck>	s.dice gives a generous 3% A MONTH (avg)
Mar 08 10:00:19 <kakobrekla>	well somebody obviously wants it
Mar 08 10:00:26 <Anduck>	well they're idiots imo
Mar 08 10:00:31 <kakobrekla>	cool.
Mar 08 10:00:31 <thestrin1puller>	smickles: pay kakobrekla
Mar 08 10:00:33 <Anduck>	there's no sane reason to want it at that price
Mar 08 10:00:42 <kakobrekla>	ok, move along now :)
Mar 08 10:00:45 <Anduck>	kakobrekla: would you buy S.BBET at 1/2 of the current buy price?
Mar 08 10:01:04 <Anduck>	it's just weird how stock markets work.. people indeed dont look at the numbers :D
Mar 08 10:01:14 <thestrin1puller>	kakobrekla: :(((( gimme command!
Mar 08 10:01:19 <kakobrekla>	most look, they just dont understand.
Mar 08 10:03:09 <kakobrekla>	command for what
Mar 08 10:03:37 <thestrin1puller>	24 hr cross market price
Mar 08 10:04:42 <kakobrekla>	wvap?
Mar 08 10:04:45 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 08 10:05:06 <thestrin1puller>	:P
Mar 08 10:05:16 <kakobrekla>	;;help
Mar 08 10:05:17 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Mar 08 10:05:25 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,help
Mar 08 10:05:25 <gribble>	Alias bc,24hprc, Alias bc,avgprc, Alias bc,bear, Alias bc,bitpenny, Alias bc,blockdiff, Alias bc,blocks, Alias bc,bounty, Alias bc,btcguild, Alias bc,calc, Alias bc,calcd, Alias bc,convert, Alias bc,deepbit, Alias bc,diff, Alias bc,diffchange, Alias bc,eligius, Alias bc,estimate, Alias bc,fx, Alias bc,gen, Alias bc,gend, Alias bc,help, Alias bc,hextarget, Alias bc,intersango, Alias (2 more messages)
Mar 08 10:05:46 <kakobrekla>	thestrin1puller ^^
Mar 08 10:05:47 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 08 10:05:48 <gribble>	42.73
Mar 08 10:05:53 <thestrin1puller>	:D
Mar 08 10:06:13 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,avgprc
Mar 08 10:06:14 <gribble>	{"JPY": {"7d": "3920.87", "30d": "3203.49", "24h": "4043.39"}, "USD": {"7d": "40.30", "30d": "30.92", "24h": "42.73"}, "AUD": {"7d": "39.50", "30d": "30.05", "24h": "42.05"}, "CHF": {"7d": "37.50", "30d": "27.87", "24h": "39.76"}, "RUB": {"7d": "1174.45", "30d": "904.50", "24h": "1293.77"}, "timestamp": 1362754805, "THB": {"7d": "1004.99", "30d": "964.32"}, "SLL": {"7d": "10340.60", (2 more messages)
Mar 08 10:06:35 <scrybe>	you know you can talk to gribble over /msg, right?
Mar 08 10:07:33 <thestrin1puller>	you know you can stop being a meanie
Mar 08 10:07:39 <scrybe>	sorry, wrong channel
Mar 08 10:08:32 <scrybe>	actually was just trying to help somone else, funny that the context worked here, carry on
Mar 08 10:08:42 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m S MPOE
Mar 08 10:08:48 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 08 10:08:52 <thestrin1puller>	lol
Mar 08 10:09:03 <assbot>	I thought I told you not to touch me.
Mar 08 10:09:24 <assbot>	You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship.
Mar 08 10:09:47 <kakobrekla>	i think i need to fix that
Mar 08 10:09:51 <kakobrekla>	when i get back.
Mar 08 10:09:54 <scrybe>	is it just me or are the declarations of value getting a bit vauge...
Mar 08 10:10:35 <thestrin1puller>	vague like your sentences?
Mar 08 10:11:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.00069 = 0.0138 BTC [-]
Mar 08 10:11:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 70 @ 0.00068 = 0.0476 BTC [-]
Mar 08 10:11:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.00067 = 0.0335 BTC [-]
Mar 08 10:11:34 <smickles>	thestrin1puller: i'm on it, there are a couple people who I still have to pay
Mar 08 10:11:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00066 = 0.066 BTC [-]
Mar 08 10:11:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 08 10:12:49 <smickles>	thestrin1puller: and I don't recall saying that mpex wasn't accepting trades, but soon enough you'll be able to send trades via irc
Mar 08 10:13:00 <smickles>	so a ddos wouldn't matter
Mar 08 10:13:12 <thestrin1puller>	me personally?
Mar 08 10:13:16 <thestrin1puller>	via you?
Mar 08 10:13:26 <smickles>	anyone with an mpex account, sry
Mar 08 10:13:30 <thestrin1puller>	boo
Mar 08 10:13:39 <smickles>	it's a higher level solution that you <-> me
Mar 08 10:13:44 <smickles>	*than
Mar 08 10:13:53 <thestrin1puller>	;)
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Mar 08 10:14:19 <thestrin1puller>	can you get the current OIX?
Mar 08 10:14:21 <scrybe>	brokers are the ones that will have to build DDOS resistant websites, but it's not like we have a lot of them yet
Mar 08 10:14:53 <scrybe>	7day OIX :
Mar 08 10:14:53 <scrybe>	47.09 (48.54 / 33.88)
Mar 08 10:14:53 <scrybe>	26`883.51 (90.1 / 9.9)
Mar 08 10:15:28 <thestrin1puller>	the bears are gonna win da superbowl!
Mar 08 10:16:01 <smickles>	ya know, i'm sure I could make it to where you (thestrin1puller) could send trades, if you were willing to give up security and pay a fee as well
Mar 08 10:16:09 <smickles>	*some security
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Mar 08 10:16:48 <smickles>	but would I want to do that
Mar 08 10:16:59 <scrybe>	IRC brokerage opening up? could be popular!
Mar 08 10:17:14 <thestrin1puller>	ahh fees :(
Mar 08 10:17:33 <smickles>	scrybe: well, it will be an irc frontend to mpex first
Mar 08 10:17:39 <smickles>	not brokerage
Mar 08 10:17:44 <smickles>	$ping
Mar 08 10:17:44 <mpexbot>	pong
Mar 08 10:17:46 <scrybe>	someone needs to do a coop structured brokerage
Mar 08 10:18:23 <smickles>	what do you mean by coop structured?
Mar 08 10:18:23 <thestrin1puller>	just buy an account
Mar 08 10:19:47 <smickles>	$vwap
Mar 08 10:19:50 <mpexbot>	smickles: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached
Mar 08 10:20:07 <smickles>	bah, i'ma gho'na fix that soon
Mar 08 10:20:35 <scrybe>	(I'm rough on this but is't something like the following) everyone can buy-in to the brokerage for a small fee until they are vested (having paid a proportional amount of the initial and ongoing fees/expenses from the brokerage operation) and then be a part owner of the brokerage and be essentially fee-less (beyond expenses)
Mar 08 10:21:31 <scrybe>	that way folks who complain about fees can know they are getting the best possible deal by being a part-owner.
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Mar 08 10:23:46 <scrybe>	in theory the early-adopters of the coop (who paid the initial fee from only a few hands) would get rebates as other join the coop and get vested, but they would also lose ownership shares comeurate with that compensation
Mar 08 10:24:18 <pigeons>	folks who complain about fees want to complain
Mar 08 10:25:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 08 10:26:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.46977, Best ask: 43.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03022, Last trade: 43.46977, 24 hour volume: 60617.74573688, 24 hour low: 40.83579, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.99534
Mar 08 10:26:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc.stats
Mar 08 10:26:10 <gribble>	Error: "bc.stats" is not a valid command.
Mar 08 10:26:12 <scrybe>	But what if you could pay 1/1000 of the fee (but be limited to 1/1000 of the fund?) or 1/100,000? it opens trading up to a lot of small players on a self-supporting system. I'm basing this ideal loosely on farm coop groups in the US
Mar 08 10:26:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 08 10:26:18 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 224851 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 940 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 22 hours, 47 minutes, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4729986.6233 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.29031
Mar 08 10:26:22 <scrybe>	pigeons: true that
Mar 08 10:26:59 <jurov>	coinbr announcement: https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/3713-coinbr-site-down
Mar 08 10:28:41 <ThickAsThieves>	how do i move all my sites to bitvps?
Mar 08 10:29:05 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 08 10:31:25 *	thestrin1puller is now known as thestringpuller
Mar 08 10:32:04 <thestringpuller>	lol
Mar 08 10:33:56 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 08 10:33:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.61000, Best ask: 43.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 43.46100, 24 hour volume: 58213.59407117, 24 hour low: 40.83579, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.90989
Mar 08 10:35:14 <kakobrekla>	anyone registered on bfl forums?
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Mar 08 10:35:37 <smickles>	thestringpuller: wait, what do I owe kakobrekla ?
Mar 08 10:36:01 <thestringpuller>	.5
Mar 08 10:36:08 <thestringpuller>	want me to autg
Mar 08 10:36:11 <thestringpuller>	auth
Mar 08 10:36:46 <smickles>	I honestly don't remember why I owe kakobrekla .5 anything
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Mar 08 10:37:03 <smickles>	can you tell me :) plz
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Mar 08 10:38:19 <thestringpuller>	from my account
Mar 08 10:38:22 <thestringpuller>	for data
Mar 08 10:38:25 <thestringpuller>	he sent me
Mar 08 10:38:42 <smickles>	ah
Mar 08 10:38:46 <smickles>	will do then
Mar 08 10:38:54 <thestringpuller>	so I could do data mining on options :P
Mar 08 10:39:13 <thestringpuller>	want me to auth?
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Mar 08 10:40:11 <smickles>	to send btc for you? that's probably a good idea
Mar 08 10:40:17 <smickles>	;;ident thestringpuller
Mar 08 10:40:17 <gribble>	Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
Mar 08 10:40:27 <thestringpuller>	i needs to auth
Mar 08 10:40:40 <thestringpuller>	from car
Mar 08 10:41:02 <thestringpuller>	on phone. dont keep key on here for obvious reasons
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Mar 08 10:41:51 <thestringpuller>	brb
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Mar 08 10:42:05 <smickles>	hmm, i feel like there's an email i'm missing, what address am I to sent to so that it reaches kakobrekla
Mar 08 10:43:05 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Mar 08 10:43:07 <kakobrekla>	see pm
Mar 08 10:44:14 <jurov>	it's matic.kocevar@infosec.gov.si
Mar 08 10:44:41 <kakobrekla>	stfu,. that one is private
Mar 08 10:44:50 <ThickAsThieves>	oh i didnt notice BFL posted an update yesterday
Mar 08 10:45:19 <ThickAsThieves>	Got an update from the packaging house. As some of you may know already, there was some trouble with the fiduciary marks and the current alignment of the machines for the substrates. That was worked out and the machines were re-calibrated today to use the current markings. I am going to be flying to California either Friday night or Saturday morning and moving the packaged chips to the
Mar 08 10:45:19 <ThickAsThieves>	ASIC teams location as well as making sure they get off to Chicago as fast as possible. We expect the packaging to be complete either Saturday night or Sunday. The packaging house is working on the weekend to finish the job.
Mar 08 10:45:19 <ThickAsThieves>	I will update when I have more information, but it looks like Saturday or Sunday for the full testing to begin. Simultaneously, the chips will be in Chicago being mounted on the boards, so we should see boards starting to arrive in KC early to mid next week.
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Mar 08 10:46:38 <jurov>	wtf fiduciary marks?
Mar 08 10:46:38 <pigeons>	just dont say shit till you have something
Mar 08 10:47:15 <jurov>	tha't some machine to avoid fiduciary responsibility?
Mar 08 10:47:42 <ThickAsThieves>	is that like the little symbols the imprint into the metal?
Mar 08 10:47:46 <ThickAsThieves>	like FCE whatevs
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Mar 08 10:48:28 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm guessing electronics compliance shit, but i dont actually know
Mar 08 10:54:18 <smickles>	$vwap
Mar 08 10:54:20 <mpexbot>	smickles: Server's response: http://pastebin.com/53YuZvBg
Mar 08 10:54:24 <smickles>	bingo
Mar 08 10:54:48 <kakobrekla>	i have the same task to do
Mar 08 10:54:58 <kakobrekla>	i suggest we pick 3 pastebins for reduncancy
Mar 08 10:55:00 <ThickAsThieves>	neat
Mar 08 10:55:04 <kakobrekla>	and keep same ones supported between bots
Mar 08 10:55:16 <kakobrekla>	also i was thinking to just run our own pastebin
Mar 08 10:55:21 <smickles>	kakobrekla: we'll, i've getting the api limit raised on pastebin
Mar 08 10:55:26 <smickles>	*i'me
Mar 08 10:55:29 <smickles>	**i'm
Mar 08 10:55:29 <kakobrekla>	ah
Mar 08 10:55:34 <kakobrekla>	they have that
Mar 08 10:55:41 <smickles>	so I claim pastebin.com
Mar 08 10:55:49 <kakobrekla>	then ill parse from about 3 different ones
Mar 08 10:55:53 <kakobrekla>	and use self to host result
Mar 08 10:56:09 <kakobrekla>	fuck rate limited apis
Mar 08 10:56:11 <imsaguy>	Mine's almost ready too! :D I ran out of time yesterday.
Mar 08 10:56:21 <kakobrekla>	i havent even started working
Mar 08 10:56:25 <kakobrekla>	but its like 30min of work
Mar 08 10:56:27 <kakobrekla>	to slam it to assbot
Mar 08 10:56:30 <kakobrekla>	maybe 15
Mar 08 10:56:32 <smickles>	damn, mp want's this thing to be bulletproof, eh?
Mar 08 10:57:13 <imsaguy>	how does having multiples hurt anything? Makes it harder to take a single avenue out
Mar 08 10:57:25 <smickles>	next we'll need a bot that agrigates them :D
Mar 08 10:57:34 <imsaguy>	nah
Mar 08 10:57:40 <imsaguy>	you just pick one
Mar 08 10:57:47 <imsaguy>	just like the web proxies
Mar 08 10:57:59 <imsaguy>	if one isn't responsive, use a different
Mar 08 10:58:00 <smickles>	aw, we can't have like mpex ircbot brokers?
Mar 08 10:58:16 <imsaguy>	mine doesn't do any decoding
Mar 08 10:58:18 <imsaguy>	pure proxy
Mar 08 10:58:41 <kakobrekla>	read the string, slam it to mpex and return the output
Mar 08 10:58:45 <imsaguy>	yep
Mar 08 10:58:46 <smickles>	same here
Mar 08 10:58:55 <imsaguy>	then why was your pastebin plaintext?
Mar 08 10:59:05 <smickles>	it's what mpex gave me
Mar 08 10:59:08 <kakobrekla>	it was api call
Mar 08 10:59:12 <imsaguy>	ah, ok
Mar 08 10:59:16 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 08 10:59:20 <imsaguy>	I dont actually use mpex
Mar 08 10:59:25 <imsaguy>	I'm not paying for an account :D
Mar 08 10:59:37 <kakobrekla>	that shit was free back in da day
Mar 08 11:00:00 <imsaguy>	back in the day, nothing was listed and not worth the time to sign up
Mar 08 11:00:19 <kakobrekla>	and btc was 2$
Mar 08 11:02:26 <imsaguy>	and that
Mar 08 11:02:27 <smickles>	$depth
Mar 08 11:02:30 <mpexbot>	smickles: Server's response: http://pastebin.com/ALsTqxL4
Mar 08 11:03:51 <smickles>	oooh, imsaguy depth and vwap are plaintext, an mpex command would still be encrypted. (just to 'drive the point home')
Mar 08 11:04:06 <kakobrekla>	is what i said
Mar 08 11:04:58 <smickles>	so, what was the last on that s.mpoe passthru?
Mar 08 11:05:09 <smickles>	.00066?
Mar 08 11:05:27 <smickles>	24hr low on mpex is .00067ish
Mar 08 11:05:30 <smickles>	not far off
Mar 08 11:06:37 <imsaguy>	smickles: shorten to just: smickles: http://
Mar 08 11:06:41 <smickles>	nice, the vwap call gives you that ^OIX too :) *squee*
Mar 08 11:06:57 <imsaguy>	kakobrekla: making your own pastebin gives a ddos target
Mar 08 11:07:05 <imsaguy>	that is the whole poitn of using pastebin.com
Mar 08 11:07:08 <imsaguy>	;-)
Mar 08 11:07:21 <kakobrekla>	hmhm
Mar 08 11:08:01 <smickles>	imsaguy: i was wondering what I'd do with that cruft
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Mar 08 11:10:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.249 BTC [-]
Mar 08 11:12:32 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 08 11:12:33 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150493.0
Mar 08 11:12:36 <kakobrekla>	fuckin retarded
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Mar 08 11:13:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i had to put him on ignore
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Mar 08 11:13:49 <ThickAsThieves>	i kept resisting urges to respond
Mar 08 11:13:57 <kakobrekla>	i just responded
Mar 08 11:14:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume you saw his plea to sdice shareholders
Mar 08 11:14:57 <kakobrekla>	hey brainfreeze
Mar 08 11:15:05 <kakobrekla>	yea*
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Mar 08 11:19:36 <imsaguy>	every few months, we get a new micon
Mar 08 11:19:42 <imsaguy>	set on saving the morons from themselves
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Mar 08 11:29:48 <ZedsterX>	lol
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Mar 08 11:39:54 <nanotube>	smickles: 'help depth' and 'help vwap' error out.
Mar 08 11:40:00 <nanotube>	put in some help strings, dude.
Mar 08 11:41:32 <Chilca>	good morning, how the status of mpex?
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Mar 08 11:41:50 <imsaguy>	nanotube, no need for help for those ;)
Mar 08 11:41:54 <imsaguy>	thats like having a help message for help
Mar 08 11:42:15 <nanotube>	well, if you like having a bunch of tracebacks in your log, sure, no need. :P
Mar 08 11:42:30 <imsaguy>	disable logging, duh
Mar 08 11:43:08 <nanotube>	ah yes, of course. >_>
Mar 08 11:43:32 <nanotube>	also, still no way to post queries to the site?
Mar 08 11:43:45 <nanotube>	i gave mp plugin code yesterday with posting ability
Mar 08 11:44:28 <nanotube>	(minus the pastebin posting api glue code, but i see vwap and depth have that part handled already)
Mar 08 11:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
Mar 08 11:46:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.47999999 BTC [-]
Mar 08 11:46:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.46050001 = 2.3025 BTC [-]
Mar 08 11:46:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4605 = 0.921 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 11:52:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.3449 = 0.6898 BTC [-]
Mar 08 11:56:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24899 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 12:16:21 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 08 12:16:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.94001, Best ask: 43.96901, Bid-ask spread: 0.02900, Last trade: 43.96901, 24 hour volume: 58059.58558649, 24 hour low: 40.83579, 24 hour high: 44.73999, 24 hour vwap: 42.79435
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Mar 08 12:25:16 <smickles>	thanks nanotube, is that happening b/c i didn't put a docstring in the method?
Mar 08 12:25:38 <nanotube>	yes, probably, smickles
Mar 08 12:25:41 <smickles>	and yes, there is a post query, disable atm by reques of the big guy
Mar 08 12:25:50 <smickles>	tested and functioning tho
Mar 08 12:26:01 <nanotube>	smickles: nice nice :)
Mar 08 12:26:33 <smickles>	supybot seems fairly well designed
Mar 08 12:26:45 <nanotube>	heh yes, it's a pretty good piece of software.
Mar 08 12:27:38 <nanotube>	smickles: another thing: disable all commands except for whatever you have in your mpex plugin.
Mar 08 12:30:07 <imsaguy>	<nanotube> heh yes, it's a pretty good piece of software. << I can almost hear the fapfapfap
Mar 08 12:30:49 <nanotube>	imsaguy: well, i didn't write the original supybot.
Mar 08 12:31:03 <nanotube>	so you should get your hearing checked. :)
Mar 08 12:31:16 <imsaguy>	perhaps, but you've all but rewritten it
Mar 08 12:31:50 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2013/03/08/a-letter-to-my-son/
Mar 08 12:31:55 <jcpham>	thanks nanatube
Mar 08 12:32:00 <jcpham>	*nanotube
Mar 08 12:32:05 <nanotube>	nah, that's an exaggeration. i've written a bunch of plugins for it, i've fixed some bugs in the core, and have improved the core a bit, but all of that is not even 10% of the code. maybe not even 5%.
Mar 08 12:32:11 <jcpham>	i've been sort of rough drafting that since last night
Mar 08 12:32:46 <nanotube>	jcpham: nice :)
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Mar 08 12:33:03 <imsaguy>	jcpham: dying soon?
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Mar 08 12:33:57 <jcpham>	seems like it right
Mar 08 12:34:11 <jcpham>	ELI5
Mar 08 12:34:15 <jcpham>	but literally
Mar 08 12:34:50 <jcpham>	when my son is 5, how do i start
Mar 08 12:34:59 <jcpham>	i can't bable on about sha256
Mar 08 12:35:24 <imsaguy>	who knows, by then it might not be sha256
Mar 08 12:35:36 <imsaguy>	and by 5, he'll probably be writing code
Mar 08 12:36:00 <jcpham>	the point is there is a one year old sitting on 100 coins that he has no clue about
Mar 08 12:36:09 <jcpham>	and it's given me an idea for a much larger story
Mar 08 12:36:34 <jcpham>	we all keep saying the bitcoin movie
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Mar 08 12:36:51 <jcpham>	well the facts are one thing but plot progressiona nd back story are another
Mar 08 12:37:17 <nanotube>	jcpham: i think it's a good idea. :)
Mar 08 12:37:20 <jcpham>	i'm going to write a screenplay, bother ashton kutcher, make amovie
Mar 08 12:37:28 <jcpham>	i decided it last night
Mar 08 12:37:47 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Mar 08 12:37:50 <Diablo-D3>	I just had a funny idea
Mar 08 12:37:56 <jcpham>	you are welcome to collaborate
Mar 08 12:38:03 <Diablo-D3>	a game that natively uses bitcoins
Mar 08 12:38:03 <jcpham>	we need a script wiki
Mar 08 12:38:09 <imsaguy>	no
Mar 08 12:38:14 <imsaguy>	you need copyrights
Mar 08 12:38:20 <imsaguy>	otherwise, someone else will make your movie
Mar 08 12:38:27 <imsaguy>	and you'll just be a broke joker
Mar 08 12:38:34 <Diablo-D3>	imsaguy: er, copyrights dont mean what you think they mean
Mar 08 12:38:41 <Diablo-D3>	learn how licensing and contracts work.
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Mar 08 12:39:09 <jcpham>	i was thinking more along the lines of 20 bloggers with acces to a CMS
Mar 08 12:39:16 <jcpham>	or awiki
Mar 08 12:39:18 <smickles>	aw, jcpham has a heart
Mar 08 12:39:28 <Diablo-D3>	yeah thats a liability
Mar 08 12:39:34 <jcpham>	yeah
Mar 08 12:39:45 <jcpham>	but i trust you guys!
Mar 08 12:39:53 <Diablo-D3>	trust no one.
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Mar 08 12:40:38 <jcpham>	either way, that blog post is an prologue to an outline
Mar 08 12:40:48 <jcpham>	although i've classified it as fiction for myself
Mar 08 12:40:50 <jcpham>	it is not
Mar 08 12:41:00 <jcpham>	insomnia gripped me last night
Mar 08 12:41:05 <imsaguy>	Diablo-D3, you're a douche
Mar 08 12:41:10 <Diablo-D3>	imsaguy: I'm a realist.
Mar 08 12:41:24 <imsaguy>	how do you know I don't know how licensing works
Mar 08 12:41:39 <Diablo-D3>	because you wouldn't have blurted out copyrights
Mar 08 12:42:03 <imsaguy>	heh, you're one to criticize blurting
Mar 08 12:42:19 <Diablo-D3>	the only thing he needs from contributors are copyright assignment statements
Mar 08 12:42:35 <Diablo-D3>	thats the ONLY place where copyright comes into this
Mar 08 12:42:36 <imsaguy>	until the whole thing gets dragged into court
Mar 08 12:42:42 <imsaguy>	regardless of some statement
Mar 08 12:42:47 <Diablo-D3>	the rest is NDAs and contracts
Mar 08 12:42:52 <imsaguy>	thats why its easier if its not posted to the public internet
Mar 08 12:43:04 <Diablo-D3>	why would it be posted in public?
Mar 08 12:43:07 <Diablo-D3>	hard to NDA the public
Mar 08 12:43:39 <imsaguy>	private wikis are a waste of wiki
Mar 08 12:43:52 <Diablo-D3>	only because php sucks
Mar 08 12:44:31 <Diablo-D3>	there are smaller scale mu wikis that can write to files instead
Mar 08 12:44:37 <Diablo-D3>	much more appropriate for this
Mar 08 12:46:34 <nanotube>	bah, make a github repo.
Mar 08 12:46:45 <nanotube>	whoever isn't smart enough to figure out git, shouldn't be contributing to the story anyway :)
Mar 08 12:47:23 <smickles>	git would be much better than a wiki
Mar 08 12:51:06 <smickles>	$help vwap
Mar 08 12:51:06 <mpexbot>	smickles: (vwap Takes no arguments.) -- Returns all available market data, excepting depth
Mar 08 12:51:23 <Diablo-D3>	WELL
Mar 08 12:51:24 <smickles>	$help depth
Mar 08 12:51:24 <mpexbot>	smickles: (depth Takes no arguments.) -- Returns the full market depth.
Mar 08 12:51:27 <Diablo-D3>	there is a wiki that runs on git
Mar 08 12:51:33 <Diablo-D3>	I saw it on HN like a year or two ago
Mar 08 12:51:40 <Diablo-D3>	thought that was clever
Mar 08 12:51:50 *	smickles mindblown
Mar 08 12:51:54 <Diablo-D3>	its basically a markdown JS editor glued into code that calls git
Mar 08 12:52:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.00511 = 0.0409 BTC [-]
Mar 08 12:52:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.0051 = 0.204 BTC [-]
Mar 08 12:53:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.005065 = 0.7598 BTC [-]
Mar 08 12:53:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 90 @ 0.00506 = 0.4554 BTC [-]
Mar 08 12:53:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.005046 = 0.0505 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 12:54:26 <jcpham>	git would work
Mar 08 12:54:35 <jcpham>	i love obvious answers
Mar 08 12:54:39 <jcpham>	they elude me
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Mar 08 12:56:55 <imsaguy>	just use a google doc and be done with it
Mar 08 12:58:21 <Diablo-D3>	google doc sucks, to be honest
Mar 08 12:58:57 <imsaguy>	why tack on 'to be honest'?
Mar 08 12:59:11 <imsaguy>	Does that imply you aren't honest at other times?
Mar 08 13:00:45 <nanotube>	jcpham: see also github pages - they can automagically generate from your git repo.
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Mar 08 13:01:30 <jcpham>	imsaguy wanna fight about something?
Mar 08 13:01:46 <smickles>	jcpham: i think it's just meta-trolling
Mar 08 13:01:48 <jcpham>	i say the sky is red and fuck you
Mar 08 13:01:56 <jcpham>	what's your opinion
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Mar 08 13:02:33 <nanotube>	i always tell the truth, or 2+2=4.
Mar 08 13:03:02 <jcpham>	truthiness is fun
Mar 08 13:03:07 <nanotube>	heh
Mar 08 13:03:19 <jcpham>	imsaguy just seems violent
Mar 08 13:03:26 <jcpham>	like he's about to explode today
Mar 08 13:03:45 <jcpham>	i thought asicminer was paying now and he might relax
Mar 08 13:04:36 <imsaguy>	actually, I have better news than asicminer
Mar 08 13:04:42 <imsaguy>	avalon :)
Mar 08 13:04:45 <jcpham>	share it dude
Mar 08 13:04:50 <imsaguy>	I already did, slowman
Mar 08 13:04:57 <nanotube>	hehe
Mar 08 13:05:03 <jcpham>	so you are in possesion
Mar 08 13:05:09 <imsaguy>	no, but I have confirmation
Mar 08 13:05:13 <imsaguy>	from 3rd party :)
Mar 08 13:05:14 <jcpham>	neato neato
Mar 08 13:05:23 <jcpham>	did you order
Mar 08 13:05:52 <imsaguy>	why would I be excited about a competitor to asicminer shipping if I hadn't ordered from said competitor?
Mar 08 13:05:58 <jcpham>	i tried on that 2nd batch when ever they had problems and gave up
Mar 08 13:06:04 <imsaguy>	I see
Mar 08 13:06:09 <imsaguy>	I'm glad you did ;)
Mar 08 13:06:14 <jcpham>	blah blah
Mar 08 13:06:19 <jcpham>	3 basic units on preorder
Mar 08 13:06:23 <jcpham>	had to chargeback those
Mar 08 13:06:24 <imsaguy>	heh
Mar 08 13:06:28 <imsaguy>	I understand
Mar 08 13:06:30 <imsaguy>	been there, done that
Mar 08 13:06:35 <imsaguy>	didn't even get the tshirt
Mar 08 13:06:38 <jcpham>	still nothing with BFL
Mar 08 13:07:04 <imsaguy>	sucks
Mar 08 13:07:11 <jcpham>	I'll buy something from BFL when they can deliver it within 6 weeks
Mar 08 13:07:14 <jcpham>	which is never, btw
Mar 08 13:07:15 <imsaguy>	glwt
Mar 08 13:07:20 <imsaguy>	yep
Mar 08 13:07:32 <imsaguy>	even the singles way back when only got down to about 4 weeks
Mar 08 13:07:38 <imsaguy>	and that was only for a week or two
Mar 08 13:08:08 <imsaguy>	I'm sure not everyone gets crappy service from them
Mar 08 13:08:17 <imsaguy>	gotta be VIP
Mar 08 13:09:00 <imsaguy>	so am I going to regret upgrading my 7 to 8?
Mar 08 13:09:11 <imsaguy>	I hated it the first time, but people tell me I didn't give it a chance to grow on me
Mar 08 13:09:41 <Chilca>	jurov: hey Jurov, how are you? any news about mpex?
Mar 08 13:10:00 <Diablo-D3>	imsaguy: what, windows?
Mar 08 13:10:03 <Diablo-D3>	its not so bad
Mar 08 13:10:07 <Diablo-D3>	just turn classic mode on
Mar 08 13:10:25 <jurov>	mpex runs fine behind proxy (see chan topic)
Mar 08 13:10:46 <jurov>	and i just turned on coinbr in readonly mode
Mar 08 13:12:35 <smickles>	jurov: are commands enabled? i could turn that part of mpexbot on too, but i vaguely recall mp asking me not to for now, then going to sleep
Mar 08 13:12:52 <jurov>	yes commands work
Mar 08 13:13:28 <jurov>	i mean, directly via proxy. coinbr users have yet to wait a bit
Mar 08 13:14:03 <jurov>	mp prolly wanted to see if there will be attack
Mar 08 13:14:20 <jurov>	but nothing so far
Mar 08 13:24:59 <imsaguy>	am I screwing myself wiht a hibernation file on ssd?
Mar 08 13:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.50999999 = 1.02 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 13:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 1.6 = 32 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 13:39:59 <ColdHardMetal>	bitcoind-opscustomer6listed
Mar 08 13:42:41 <pigeons>	why did you oaste bitcoind-*****
Mar 08 13:42:50 <imsaguy>	to piss me off
Mar 08 13:42:55 <imsaguy>	since I'm looking to fight
Mar 08 13:42:56 <ColdHardMetal>	misfire
Mar 08 13:43:00 <pigeons>	thats just weird that you pasted a bunch of asterix
Mar 08 13:47:57 <smickles>	bah, so mpexbot can send commands to mpex directly, but mircea went to be saying to hold of on enabling that
Mar 08 13:48:09 <imsaguy>	/ns ident P@$$w0rd
Mar 08 13:48:48 <jurov>	------- BEGIN PGP PRIVATE KEY -----------
Mar 08 13:48:56 <jurov>	:P
Mar 08 13:49:00 <pigeons>	;)
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Mar 08 13:51:14 <smickles>	$help post
Mar 08 13:51:15 <mpexbot>	smickles: (post <paste key>) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.
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Mar 08 13:51:31 <smickles>	$post ALsTqxL4
Mar 08 13:51:32 <mpexbot>	smickles: Temporarily disabled by reques of the romanian
Mar 08 13:51:44 <smickles>	no spellcheck ftw
Mar 08 13:51:53 <jurov>	can't it use any source url?
Mar 08 13:52:15 <smickles>	it can and does
Mar 08 13:52:19 <smickles>	er
Mar 08 13:52:42 <smickles>	what, like rout it thru mpex.coinbr?
Mar 08 13:52:56 <smickles>	hmm, i think my keyboard is getting old
Mar 08 13:53:07 <jurov>	no i mean $post http://myserver.com/mycmd.txt
Mar 08 13:54:34 <smickles>	well, i suppose it could, i'll just start adding in features :D
Mar 08 13:55:00 <jurov>	cause pastebin can have limit exceeded easily
Mar 08 13:55:09 <smickles>	not me :)
Mar 08 13:55:20 <smickles>	i'm special
Mar 08 13:55:29 <jurov>	noturjob
Mar 08 13:57:09 <smickles>	heh, mp wakes up to find mpexbot is not just irc access to mpex backend, but a full service broker and geocities clone
Mar 08 13:58:33 <jurov>	also you should integrate elisa or similar AI. like assbot has.
Mar 08 13:58:58 <jurov>	"Tell me more about you relationship with parents."
Mar 08 13:59:56 <jurov>	we really ought to have some empathic bot here. assbot is obnoxious whore
Mar 08 14:12:35 <Anduck>	totally
Mar 08 14:13:07 <smickles>	I wonder. This might take some clever implementation.
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Mar 08 14:28:59 <kakobrekla>	so, whats the news
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Mar 08 14:31:29 <kakobrekla>	http://www.springwise.com/food_beverage/consumers-paint-pizza-online-delivery-door/
Mar 08 14:31:32 <kakobrekla>	someone do this
Mar 08 14:31:34 <kakobrekla>	but for btc
Mar 08 14:31:42 <kakobrekla>	pizza is already famous
Mar 08 14:31:56 <kakobrekla>	or should i say pizza ordering
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Mar 08 14:50:56 <thestringpuller>	heh smickles
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Mar 08 14:55:00 <mircea_popescu>	hey all!
Mar 08 14:55:40 <Namworld>	Hello
Mar 08 14:55:47 <Namworld>	not much trading going on right now
Mar 08 14:55:57 <deadweasel>	howdy
Mar 08 14:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	i guess not huh
Mar 08 15:00:57 <jcpham>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19wq78/my_horrible_bitinstantzipzapmoneygram7eleven/
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Mar 08 15:07:49 <smickles>	i guess pizza is what we should stick too
Mar 08 15:07:53 <smickles>	er, to
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Mar 08 15:14:17 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149892.0
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Mar 08 15:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	im preparing a little bomb over here.
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Mar 08 15:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	blockchain.info down too huh
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Mar 08 15:20:25 <pizzaman1337>	oh noes, http://mpex.coinbr.com/ just died
Mar 08 15:20:51 <topace>	zomg bitcoin is exploding!
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Mar 08 15:21:26 <Namworld>	topace: what?
Mar 08 15:22:04 <topace>	mpex down, blockchain.info down, block softlimit filesize reached...
Mar 08 15:22:21 <topace>	BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE
Mar 08 15:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	o srsly ?!
Mar 08 15:23:19 <kakobrekla>	ass related http://heahea.org/img/743-Toilet_tissue_promotion.jpg
Mar 08 15:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's fine dood
Mar 08 15:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 what are you talkin' about you troll you
Mar 08 15:23:47 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: it's back now
Mar 08 15:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	you prolly had a dns flicker
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Mar 08 15:24:09 <deadweasel>	you're not kiddin.  blockchain is undermaintenance
Mar 08 15:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	i wasn;t,no
Mar 08 15:24:24 <kakobrekla>	its all misterbiggs fault!
Mar 08 15:24:31 <topace>	what should mpex.co resolve to ?
Mar 08 15:24:34 <deadweasel>	that mofo
Mar 08 15:24:46 <deadweasel>	it should resolve to be a profitable venture
Mar 08 15:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	topace mpex.co nothing yet. mpex.coinbr.com is what you want
Mar 08 15:25:14 <topace>	yea thats fine here
Mar 08 15:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	also, let me introduce everyone to mpexbot
Mar 08 15:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	$help
Mar 08 15:25:17 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
Mar 08 15:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	$whois
Mar 08 15:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	bah i mean
Mar 08 15:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap
Mar 08 15:25:41 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/QhtV1Hu5
Mar 08 15:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	$mdepth
Mar 08 15:25:48 <jurov>	coinbr.com fully functional nao
Mar 08 15:26:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol pastebin is slow
Mar 08 15:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	anyway : in case our proxies get taken down, you can use mpexbot to check the json for vwap prices and market depth.
Mar 08 15:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	you can also issue orders through it, via $post blabla, where blabla is the url of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order
Mar 08 15:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	this functionality is disabled currently for administrative reasons, but can be flipped on at will
Mar 08 15:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	this ensures us against trade being taken down via ddos, unless someone manages to ddoss frenode.
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Mar 08 15:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	there will be a 2nd bot coming online this weekend, doing roughly the same thing, just for redundancy.
Mar 08 15:27:50 <jurov>	and trades by email are supported automatically?
Mar 08 15:27:59 <jurov>	or you do the manually?
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Mar 08 15:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	trades by email was an absolute lowest level of desperation.
Mar 08 15:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	we haven't reached it.
Mar 08 15:28:34 <jurov>	ah okay
Mar 08 15:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's just there as a possibility so people understand that no matter what happens, mpex will trade.
Mar 08 15:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	but atm no need for such inconvenience.
Mar 08 15:29:00 <mircea_popescu>	any questions ?
Mar 08 15:29:15 <pizzaman1337>	noob question: I've been watching some options books' and I've noticed some have buy/sell orders of 1000, with constantly changing prices. Is someone running a script with those orders, or are they mpex provided or something?
Mar 08 15:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 the 1k blocks are mpoebot quoting
Mar 08 15:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated smickles
Mar 08 15:30:22 <gribble>	You rated user smickles on Sat Aug 25 08:39:34 2012, giving him a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: He's been running MPOE.ETF and releasing THE monthly reports, a model for all Bitcoin financial reporting. Also handled k's of BTC as broker for various clients..
Mar 08 15:31:42 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: is that just to provide liquidity or something?
Mar 08 15:31:57 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: you totally should change the whole MPEX to be used via IRC
Mar 08 15:31:58 <Anduck>	-totally-
Mar 08 15:32:07 <Anduck>	just hide the ip of the bot
Mar 08 15:32:12 <Anduck>	and youre safe from ddos
Mar 08 15:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck ;;ident mpexbot
Mar 08 15:32:25 <Anduck>	;;ident mpexbot
Mar 08 15:32:26 <gribble>	Nick 'mpexbot', with hostmask 'mpexbot!~supybot@unaffiliated/smickles/bot/mpexbot', is not identified.
Mar 08 15:32:32 <Anduck>	indeed
Mar 08 15:32:39 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 well, it's part of mpex business.
Mar 08 15:33:07 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck when i say mpex is the superior design this is what i mean.
Mar 08 15:33:11 <pizzaman1337>	ok, I see
Mar 08 15:33:18 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: it's far away from superior, sorry.
Mar 08 15:33:24 <Anduck>	but hey
Mar 08 15:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	indeed. far away in the upwards.
Mar 08 15:33:30 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: wanna know how to really make it superior?
Mar 08 15:33:40 <Anduck>	i'll tell you. really.
Mar 08 15:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 08 15:33:55 <Anduck>	the question will be do you have the possibilities to make it happenj
Mar 08 15:33:57 <Anduck>	which i guess, no.
Mar 08 15:34:08 <Anduck>	but if someone did, it would be superior.
Mar 08 15:34:14 <Anduck>	it's totally doable
Mar 08 15:34:18 <Anduck>	just that nobody has done it, yet.
Mar 08 15:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	so do it.
Mar 08 15:34:23 <jurov>	orders by phone
Mar 08 15:34:30 <jurov>	lol
Mar 08 15:34:43 <Anduck>	colored coins.
Mar 08 15:34:44 <deadweasel>	easy, sms via ec2 amazon services sms abilities
Mar 08 15:35:03 <deadweasel>	i'm from the south, we don't like colored coins 'round here
Mar 08 15:35:04 <Anduck>	make a system based on colored coin basis
Mar 08 15:35:15 <Anduck>	it would be totally awesome
Mar 08 15:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck after all the shit about s.dice
Mar 08 15:35:22 <Anduck>	and if you can, hire a group to make it happen.
Mar 08 15:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins ?
Mar 08 15:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	i'd double the blockchain.
Mar 08 15:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	this is discussed on trilema, read that article when i get it back online.
Mar 08 15:36:07 <Anduck>	but... i saw porn on there :(
Mar 08 15:36:24 <Anduck>	well tbh i dont think colored coins would make it worse
Mar 08 15:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	who are you to think ?
Mar 08 15:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg773413#msg773413
Mar 08 15:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	oops
Mar 08 15:37:43 <Anduck>	ok..?
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Mar 08 15:38:02 <mircea_popescu>	wrong paste.
Mar 08 15:40:23 <Anduck>	yeh i see
Mar 08 15:42:55 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> you can also issue orders through it, via $post blabla, where blabla is the url of a pastebin  where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order
Mar 08 15:43:01 <smickles>	$help post
Mar 08 15:43:01 <mpexbot>	smickles: (post <paste key>) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.
Mar 08 15:43:12 <smickles>	$post bi232
Mar 08 15:43:13 <mpexbot>	smickles: Temporarily disabled by reques of the romanian
Mar 08 15:43:15 <jurov>	smickles, this i asked about
Mar 08 15:43:55 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 08 15:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	jurov this isn;tt email tho is it ?!
Mar 08 15:44:29 <jurov>	no i asked smickles earlier why mpexbot doesn't do whole urls
Mar 08 15:44:33 <mircea_popescu>	o o
Mar 08 15:44:52 <smickles>	basically, because mircea_popescu didn't ask for that
Mar 08 15:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	jurov because a. its much easier to parse and b. because the bot can't be touching random servers
Mar 08 15:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	as its ip is secret
Mar 08 15:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	it's not that i didn't ask for it, it's that i asked for non-it.
Mar 08 15:46:44 <jurov>	ok, we'll see if ppl start running into pastebin limit
Mar 08 15:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	pro acct is 25 a year
Mar 08 15:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	le bomb : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1601463#msg1601463
Mar 08 15:53:20 <jcpham>	http://vimeo.com/61144193#
Mar 08 15:53:29 <jcpham>	something to get involved in finally
Mar 08 15:55:11 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Mar 08 15:55:45 <kakobrekla>	i dont think newbs should be doing this
Mar 08 15:55:50 <smickles>	hmm, 25 pastes per day for an unidentified user, doable
Mar 08 15:56:06 <kakobrekla>	id rather make a proxy parser
Mar 08 15:56:12 <kakobrekla>	than pay anything
Mar 08 15:56:47 <kakobrekla>	there must be some paste something that is not rate limited
Mar 08 15:57:08 <jurov>	yes, it's reddit
Mar 08 15:57:28 <kakobrekla>	good
Mar 08 15:57:36 <kakobrekla>	lets paste the mpex output to reddit
Mar 08 15:57:40 <kakobrekla>	let em get ddosed
Mar 08 15:57:59 <smickles>	heh
Mar 08 15:58:09 <smickles>	how about 4chan
Mar 08 15:59:22 <deadweasel>	couldn't you start an IRC channel that was invite only, pw protected, and people could trade with your bot in there?
Mar 08 15:59:32 <deadweasel>	that way you keep the rif raf from being able to poke around
Mar 08 16:00:04 <deadweasel>	i don't know much about IRC, but I'm sure your own system of IRC networks and servers could manage any load
Mar 08 16:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> lets paste the mpex output to reddit <<< thart was considered, and is still on the list :D
Mar 08 16:00:25 <deadweasel>	course EC2 doesn't allow IRC servers, not the free ones anyhow
Mar 08 16:00:45 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel the idea isn't to keep the "rifraf"
Mar 08 16:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is a very heavy political issue and i won't solve it that way.
Mar 08 16:01:04 <kakobrekla>	or just push to github
Mar 08 16:01:07 <kakobrekla>	i hate github
Mar 08 16:01:13 <smickles>	https://gist.github.com/
Mar 08 16:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	well... i don't and i think the attack i've seen could actually blow them offline
Mar 08 16:01:29 <deadweasel>	i can see you with half you face painted blue right now, mircea_popescu
Mar 08 16:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol y blue ?
Mar 08 16:01:45 <deadweasel>	"but they will never take our, MPEX!!!!!!"
Mar 08 16:01:51 <deadweasel>	braveheart
Mar 08 16:02:01 <smickles>	lol
Mar 08 16:03:59 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/8/4080160/hackers-steal-over-12000-of-bitcoins-from-bitinstant
Mar 08 16:04:10 <ThickAsThieves>	also wired
Mar 08 16:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 08 16:04:27 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/03/digital-thieves-pull-off-12000-bitcoin-heist/?cid=co6246174
Mar 08 16:07:00 <deadweasel>	holy shitsnacks
Mar 08 16:08:18 <deadweasel>	social engineering is great
Mar 08 16:08:34 <deadweasel>	teaches people to 'trust, but verify'
Mar 08 16:10:22 <smickles>	lol, "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my harddrive?"
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Mar 08 16:15:44 <jcpham>	PC Load Letter _ wtf does that mean!?!
Mar 08 16:21:22 <smickles>	$markov
Mar 08 16:21:22 <mpexbot>	pizza is what i mean.
Mar 08 16:21:31 <smickles>	lol
Mar 08 16:22:28 <mircea_popescu>	capitalize first letter tho
Mar 08 16:22:41 <Diablo-D3>	wtf
Mar 08 16:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	also smickles you ever saw seek and destroy, the film ?
Mar 08 16:22:44 <Diablo-D3>	bitinstant got raped?
Mar 08 16:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 last week
Mar 08 16:22:55 <Diablo-D3>	heh, didnt hear about that
Mar 08 16:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	you don't read trilema enouygh, i tore them a new asshole.
Mar 08 16:23:09 <Diablo-D3>	why did they let that happen
Mar 08 16:23:14 <Diablo-D3>	its not hard to secure a machine
Mar 08 16:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	total stupidity.
Mar 08 16:23:20 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i haven't seen that
Mar 08 16:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	saw a new unknown email in their dns account
Mar 08 16:23:31 <mircea_popescu>	deleted it and went to bed
Mar 08 16:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	in the morn herpderp logged into their site as admin
Mar 08 16:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	had credentials stolen
Mar 08 16:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	made post about how "security focus"
Mar 08 16:23:53 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, they should have immediately took the site offline
Mar 08 16:23:59 <mircea_popescu>	im like omgwtfbbq. wut wut wut ?!
Mar 08 16:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5105 = 1.021 BTC [+]
Mar 08 16:24:04 <davout>	bitinstant got hacked
Mar 08 16:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 at the fucking least change dns pws, argue with their dns provider, and leave someone to watch that accoutn
Mar 08 16:24:22 <davout>	?
Mar 08 16:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	davout yes.
Mar 08 16:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	1 second ima pastebin
Mar 08 16:24:34 *	davout is heading to trilema
Mar 08 16:24:34 <Diablo-D3>	why did they even have a password for their dns shit?
Mar 08 16:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	not properly.
Mar 08 16:24:45 <Diablo-D3>	they should have been using secure certs
Mar 08 16:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	site5 bs
Mar 08 16:24:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3449 BTC [-]
Mar 08 16:25:18 <smickles>	anyone know how I can get supybot to send the return of my markov command instead of the 'invalid command' error mesage?
Mar 08 16:26:03 <smickles>	if not, i'm going code diving
Mar 08 16:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	davout http://pastebin.com/mHYq6g2u
Mar 08 16:27:05 <davout>	mircea_popescu: your blog fails to load
Mar 08 16:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	which is why i sent you a paste
Mar 08 16:27:31 <davout>	which is why I want a refund for your stupid trilema credits
Mar 08 16:27:43 <davout>	reading
Mar 08 16:27:49 <davout>	popcorn
Mar 08 16:28:04 <mircea_popescu>	nuh-uh
Mar 08 16:28:09 <smickles>	ButtPlox
Mar 08 16:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	i tell you sir strictly no refunds
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Mar 08 16:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	why you come here bother me i call the police i tell you
Mar 08 16:28:30 <smickles>	davout: i was able to sell some of mine at a profit
Mar 08 16:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha noway
Mar 08 16:28:41 <smickles>	put it on the order book
Mar 08 16:28:43 <davout>	smickles: wow
Mar 08 16:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	dude im starting to think smickles is that kid
Mar 08 16:28:55 <davout>	smickles: which order book
Mar 08 16:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	you know, the kid that you take to the park in the stroller, comes back with 3 strollers and a motorbike
Mar 08 16:29:06 <smickles>	;;book "trilema credits"
Mar 08 16:29:07 <gribble>	Error: No orders for this currency present in database.
Mar 08 16:29:45 <smickles>	aw, mircea_popescu, you flatter me :)
Mar 08 16:30:04 <mircea_popescu>	they should elect you president over there
Mar 08 16:30:22 <davout>	smickles: haha i guess i'm not really used to the over-the-counter exchange
Mar 08 16:30:36 <mircea_popescu>	davout you know it does more trade than mtgox ?
Mar 08 16:30:47 <mircea_popescu>	those are the people you need to sell yourself to.
Mar 08 16:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.62 = 16.2 BTC [+]
Mar 08 16:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.62 = 3.24 BTC [+]
Mar 08 16:31:05 <smickles>	an easy way to do it is to go to home depot with 5 usd, buy stuff to make a water pipe, construct it and sell it to a pothead for 70 usd
Mar 08 16:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 08 16:31:17 <davout>	mircea_popescu: lol fuck you
Mar 08 16:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	im not even kidding
Mar 08 16:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	(if anyone doens't know, davout is the frenchie that sold bitcoin to the banking system. bitcoin-central.net)
Mar 08 16:32:32 <smickles>	you still use that pic of some guitar guy as you forum avitar?
Mar 08 16:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	some gypo yeah
Mar 08 16:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	then he wonders why he's not got da volume.
Mar 08 16:33:03 <davout>	lol
Mar 08 16:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Mar 08 16:35:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 1.63 = 13.04 BTC [+]
Mar 08 16:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C250T] 87 @ 0.41809214 = 36.374 BTC [+]
Mar 08 16:35:51 <smickles>	21:35 <mpexbot> do you have an inknling of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order
Mar 08 16:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	smickles that film... you should totally watch it.
Mar 08 16:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	some kickass quotes in it
Mar 08 16:37:24 <smickles>	21:35 <mpexbot> do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins would make it superior?
Mar 08 16:37:53 <smickles>	this is going to get wacky
Mar 08 16:37:56 <mircea_popescu>	lmao wtf
Mar 08 16:38:03 <smickles>	$markov
Mar 08 16:38:03 <mpexbot>	but... i saw porn on there :(
Mar 08 16:38:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 08 16:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	$markov
Mar 08 16:38:27 <smickles>	oh, i should open it up to the public
Mar 08 16:38:30 <smickles>	one sec
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Mar 08 16:39:32 <smickles>	try it now :)
Mar 08 16:39:45 <mircea_popescu>	$markov
Mar 08 16:39:45 <mpexbot>	i don't know much about IRC, but I'm sure your own system of IRC networks and servers could manage any load
Mar 08 16:39:52 <mircea_popescu>	$markov
Mar 08 16:39:52 <mpexbot>	21:35 <mpexbot> do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins 'round here
Mar 08 16:39:59 <smickles>	woah
Mar 08 16:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	should nuke strings that contain his name in <>
Mar 08 16:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000676 = 1.352 BTC [-]
Mar 08 16:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1601667#msg1601667
Mar 08 16:44:13 <mircea_popescu>	status update.
Mar 08 16:47:35 <smickles>	the forum is unreachable for me
Mar 08 16:47:44 <pizzaman1337>	me too
Mar 08 16:47:46 <smickles>	$markov
Mar 08 16:47:46 <mpexbot>	who are you talkin' about you troll you
Mar 08 16:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	eh no fucking way
Mar 08 16:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	brb paste.
Mar 08 16:48:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/DVMiCcff
Mar 08 16:48:35 <pizzaman1337>	just loaded for me
Mar 08 16:48:49 <smickles>	oh wait. it just had 60 second load times
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Mar 08 16:50:26 <mircea_popescu>	derp
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Mar 08 16:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.005884 BTC [-]
Mar 08 16:52:09 <smickles>	mpexbot: markov is
Mar 08 16:52:10 <mpexbot>	is heading to trilema
Mar 08 16:52:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.679 BTC [-]
Mar 08 16:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	smickles "Respondes " is not english btw
Mar 08 16:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	you want responds
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Mar 08 16:58:16 <deadweasel>	your bot's outta control mp!
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Mar 08 16:59:47 <mircea_popescu>	what'd iot do ?
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Mar 08 17:01:06 <deadweasel>	it quoted me@  16:39:45
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Mar 08 17:01:12 <deadweasel>	it's ok, i'm famous now
Mar 08 17:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol that's a point
Mar 08 17:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it shouldn't mention people by name cause of hilighting issue
Mar 08 17:01:42 <deadweasel>	i shall never die!
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Mar 08 17:03:15 <deadweasel>	blockchain:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150730.msg1601711#msg1601711
Mar 08 17:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	yeah it's been down for a while.
Mar 08 17:06:00 <deadweasel>	i've been in aspergers irc channel all day and only 3 people have spoken
Mar 08 17:06:09 <deadweasel>	not really my place.
Mar 08 17:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 08 17:06:43 <deadweasel>	#aspietalk
Mar 08 17:06:48 <deadweasel>	fuckin dead in there
Mar 08 17:08:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 206 @ 0.18392015 = 37.8876 BTC [-]
Mar 08 17:08:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 144 @ 0.22 = 31.68 BTC [+]
Mar 08 17:08:21 <pigeons>	try #bitcoin-otc
Mar 08 17:09:02 <deadweasel>	yuck
Mar 08 17:09:22 <deadweasel>	I'm gonna get these apies to talk if it kills me
Mar 08 17:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	but... why
Mar 08 17:10:11 <deadweasel>	why not?
Mar 08 17:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	k
Mar 08 17:12:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000725 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 17:16:47 <smickles>	bah, i'll just stop the markov stuffs
Mar 08 17:17:21 <smickles>	and i spell poorly too often
Mar 08 17:17:48 <mircea_popescu>	markov may be a fun little side project
Mar 08 17:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	but it takes a lot of fiddling
Mar 08 17:24:56 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 08 17:24:57 <gribble>	1 BTC = 43.98000 U.S. dollars = 33.8047656 Euros
Mar 08 17:25:07 <jurov>	^ finally back to normal concerns
Mar 08 17:27:22 <jurov>	yup, CoinBr.MPBPT-E sells nicely
Mar 08 17:27:52 <jurov>	that trust amazes me... jumping now into something that will pay in the end of april.. maybe.
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Mar 08 17:33:41 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 08 17:33:46 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 224907 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.0008422 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 884 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4768367.08384 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.16901
Mar 08 17:34:52 <jurov>	CoinBr.iDiff-O March SALE: Now at 0.0580 only!
Mar 08 17:34:59 <kakobrekla>	http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 08 17:35:00 <kakobrekla>	dis works?
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Mar 08 17:36:35 <kakobrekla>	jurov?
Mar 08 17:36:38 <ThickAsThieves>	not for me
Mar 08 17:36:49 <jurov>	hmmm
Mar 08 17:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.5105 = 7.147 BTC [+]
Mar 08 17:37:05 <kakobrekla>	mpex servers are up
Mar 08 17:37:11 <kakobrekla>	so its not that.
Mar 08 17:37:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 1000
Mar 08 17:37:33 <gribble>	There are currently 105784.75 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 9308184.03323 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0048 seconds
Mar 08 17:37:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 08 17:37:53 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4770622.24721 based on data since last change | 4705708.63176 based on data for last three days
Mar 08 17:40:24 <jurov>	well, looks like it's hit
Mar 08 17:40:34 <jurov>	disconnected it, iptables time
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Mar 08 17:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lolz
Mar 08 17:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	smickles bring mpexbot post online pls.
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Mar 08 17:53:15 <jurov>	Mar  8 22:31:49 ip-10-48-233-64 kernel: [114573.916044] TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 80. Sending cookies.  Check SNMP counters.
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Mar 08 18:02:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.679 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 18:15:09 <kakobrekla>	!mp
Mar 08 18:15:10 <assbot>	Please use http://dpaste.com/
Mar 08 18:15:14 <kakobrekla>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016618/
Mar 08 18:15:15 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 08 18:15:17 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016619/
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Mar 08 18:18:45 <jborkl_>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016621/
Mar 08 18:18:45 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 08 18:18:46 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016623/
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Mar 08 18:22:39 <kakobrekla>	well there you have it
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Mar 08 18:34:16 <jborkl_>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016636/
Mar 08 18:34:16 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 08 18:34:18 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016637/plain/
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Mar 08 18:35:26 <kakobrekla>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016640/
Mar 08 18:35:27 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 08 18:35:28 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016641/plain/
Mar 08 18:35:42 <kakobrekla>	werks.
Mar 08 18:37:26 <jborkl_>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016642/
Mar 08 18:37:27 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 08 18:37:28 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016643/plain/
Mar 08 18:37:54 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Mar 08 18:38:12 <jborkl_>	it is saying unrecognized key
Mar 08 18:38:20 <kakobrekla>	i can see that
Mar 08 18:39:01 <kakobrekla>	can someone else try it
Mar 08 18:39:03 <jborkl_>	my key manager might be using the wrong default key
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Mar 08 18:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5299 = 5.299 BTC [+]
Mar 08 18:44:40 <jborkl_>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016647/
Mar 08 18:44:41 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 08 18:44:43 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016648/plain/
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Mar 08 18:52:57 <mod6>	hey nanotube
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Mar 08 18:53:09 <mod6>	what's up with gribble.. needed to re-auth and it gave me this:
Mar 08 18:53:09 <mod6>	Forbidden
Mar 08 18:53:10 <mod6>	You don't have permission to access /otps/D655A630A13E8C69 on this server.
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Mar 08 18:54:10 <mod6>	Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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Mar 08 18:56:19 <mod6>	HALP!
Mar 08 18:56:49 <kakobrekla>	call nanotube
Mar 08 18:56:50 <asa1024>	Having a problem, Citizen?
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Mar 08 18:57:14 <mod6>	(15:52) < mod6> hey nanotube
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Mar 08 18:59:12 <mod6>	i can verify that this failure occurs on two sepearte hosts
Mar 08 19:00:28 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> smickles bring mpexbot post online pls. << right away capin'
Mar 08 19:01:27 <jurov>	$hrlp
Mar 08 19:01:30 <jurov>	$help
Mar 08 19:01:31 <mpexbot>	jurov: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
Mar 08 19:02:47 <smickles>	online tested and working
Mar 08 19:03:06 <smickles>	hmm, how to have help list the 3 commands
Mar 08 19:03:21 <smickles>	there are depth, vwap, and post
Mar 08 19:03:48 <smickles>	you can do a 'help <command>' to get specifics
Mar 08 19:03:57 <smickles>	$help vwap
Mar 08 19:03:57 <mpexbot>	smickles: (vwap Takes no arguments.) -- Returns all available market data, excepting depth
Mar 08 19:05:29 <kakobrekla>	hm?
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Mar 08 19:06:12 <FabianB>	$depth
Mar 08 19:06:14 <mpexbot>	FabianB: http://pastebin.com/4isFGaWt
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Mar 08 19:13:28 <mod6>	ok i was able to use MPEx via dpaste & assbot
Mar 08 19:13:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00074998 BTC [+]
Mar 08 19:15:14 <FabianB>	works nicely
Mar 08 19:15:45 <kakobrekla>	cool mod6 thanks
Mar 08 19:15:50 <mod6>	np
Mar 08 19:16:27 <mod6>	i gotta see if any of the proxies can process PGP messages similar to mpex.co used to -- otherwise I gotta change my perl scripts
Mar 08 19:17:09 <FabianB>	if they are online, yes, works exactly the same
Mar 08 19:17:42 <mod6>	that'll be l33t
Mar 08 19:17:54 <mod6>	cause i can be lazy until i gotta update 'em with the new mpex key
Mar 08 19:17:57 <mod6>	;)
Mar 08 19:23:45 <jurov>	pympex should be spewing out messages with new key by now
Mar 08 19:23:52 <jurov>	*checks*
Mar 08 19:26:16 <jurov>	no it's not
Mar 08 19:26:21 <jurov>	datetime.utcnow() < datetime(2013, 3, 10, 23, 59, 59)
Mar 08 19:26:34 <jurov>	^something is wrong here
Mar 08 19:29:00 <jurov>	i understood the change will be tomorrow... March 10 midnight
Mar 08 19:29:07 <mod6>	yeah
Mar 08 19:29:09 <mod6>	same
Mar 08 19:30:03 <jurov>	looks like it's indeed switched
Mar 08 19:30:12 <midnightmagic>	;;calc 45*25
Mar 08 19:30:12 <gribble>	1125
Mar 08 19:30:23 <jurov>	everyone fix ya code to datetime.utcnow() < datetime(2013, 3, 9, 23, 59, 59)
Mar 08 19:30:42 <jurov>	sigh.
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Mar 08 19:31:09 <mod6>	when it rains, it pours
Mar 08 19:34:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.69 = 6.9 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 19:35:21 <mod6>	well, ok gotta run for a bit here... but got lots more to do.
Mar 08 19:35:35 <mod6>	The good news is that MPEx orders are processing with ye ole assbot
Mar 08 19:35:36 <mod6>	:)
Mar 08 19:36:33 <jurov>	actually looks like both keys work now
Mar 08 19:36:37 <jurov>	so false alarm
Mar 08 19:36:53 <mod6>	oh thats cool. thanks for checking that out.
Mar 08 19:38:26 <mod6>	nanotube: when you get back... im still getting a 403 Forbidden when trying to get my OTP from gribble.  I'll be back perhaps after midnight CDT if you need help or anything...
Mar 08 19:38:29 <jurov>	hm, mpex.coinbr.com back online although very slowly
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Mar 08 19:42:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 20:04:06 <Bowjob>	meow
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Mar 08 20:16:16 <smickles>	;;depth
Mar 08 20:16:16 <gribble>	Error: "depth" is not a valid command.
Mar 08 20:16:20 <smickles>	lol
Mar 08 20:16:22 <smickles>	woops
Mar 08 20:16:25 <smickles>	$depth
Mar 08 20:16:28 <mpexbot>	smickles: http://pastebin.com/4AHkvU29
Mar 08 20:20:02 <smickles>	$post ZNbMDwrk
Mar 08 20:20:06 <mpexbot>	smickles: http://pastebin.com/uWhRX9Br
Mar 08 20:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 75 @ 0.02656921 = 1.9927 BTC [-]
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Mar 08 20:29:22 <Namworld>	mpx.coinbr.com no long works?
Mar 08 20:29:48 <BitHub>	blockchain not working?
Mar 08 20:32:29 <pigeons>	Namworld: he's using a bitvps
Mar 08 20:33:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24899 BTC [-]
Mar 08 20:33:55 <kakobrekla>	not anymore
Mar 08 20:34:00 <kakobrekla>	afaik
Mar 08 20:34:03 <pigeons>	rackspace?
Mar 08 20:34:10 <kakobrekla>	he got kicked or smth
Mar 08 20:34:18 <jurov>	no quickly grabber amazon
Mar 08 20:34:23 <jurov>	*grabbed
Mar 08 20:35:08 <jurov>	but had to drop mpex.coinbr.com, it's just not manageable
Mar 08 20:35:09 <kakobrekla>	i have a proxy runing but only for people i death with this one aint leakin
Mar 08 20:35:19 <kakobrekla>	death = dealth
Mar 08 20:35:24 <kakobrekla>	but close.
Mar 08 20:35:27 <jurov>	me similarly
Mar 08 20:35:50 <Namworld>	Damn, mpex.coinbr.com was my only access
Mar 08 20:35:55 <jurov>	and messed up the setup a bit, coinbr.com will be available when dns clears out
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Mar 08 20:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5299 = 1.0598 BTC [+]
Mar 08 20:56:58 <pigeons>	really kind of ridiculous to make a story and pretend it means more than absolutely nothing
Mar 08 20:57:02 <pigeons>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/03/08/first-bitcoin-hedge-fund-launches-from-malta/
Mar 08 20:57:57 <pigeons>	http://bitcoinfund.eu/joinus
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Mar 08 20:58:44 <B0g4r7>	http://bitbet.us/bet/261/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-15th/
Mar 08 20:59:37 <B0g4r7>	^ Suppose Luke-jr travels to BFL HQ next week and obtains BFL ASICs before the 15th.  Will the bet be decided as true?  Does it still count as "delivery" if he picks them up?
Mar 08 21:00:05 <B0g4r7>	I think he's an order-holding customer.
Mar 08 21:00:08 <B0g4r7>	preorder
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Mar 08 21:01:12 <pigeons>	he's a customer, it says customers
Mar 08 21:01:17 <pigeons>	plural
Mar 08 21:01:20 <pigeons>	so 2 people
Mar 08 21:02:29 <pigeons>	luke and giga
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Mar 08 21:03:52 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 08 21:04:09 <kakobrekla>	the bet for May will exclude luke and giga
Mar 08 21:10:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [+]
Mar 08 21:12:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.749 = 2.247 BTC [+]
Mar 08 21:15:38 <smickles>	!help
Mar 08 21:15:38 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 08 21:15:39 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 08 21:15:40 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
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Mar 08 21:18:25 <smickles>	$post WKARrrYc
Mar 08 21:18:28 <mpexbot>	smickles: http://pastebin.com/BQPH63iF
Mar 08 21:22:21 <kakobrekla>	>>Bitcoin is beta, SatoshiDICE is taking advantage of bugs in the software.
Mar 08 21:22:23 <kakobrekla>	ZOMG
Mar 08 21:25:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.249 BTC [+]
Mar 08 21:26:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.249 BTC [+]
Mar 08 21:32:15 <Namworld>	hmm, I can't decode MPEx's replies
Mar 08 21:34:35 <smickles>	Namworld: usin mpexbot?
Mar 08 21:34:55 <Namworld>	using a proxy just like mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 08 21:35:28 <smickles>	I was just recently able to decode an mpex reply
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Mar 08 21:36:45 <jurov>	just found out amazon s3 allows POSTS
Mar 08 21:36:48 <Namworld>	It says perhaps i didn't sign the key. But it worked before.
Mar 08 21:36:59 <Namworld>	jurov: so?
Mar 08 21:37:11 <jurov>	i'll do mpex proxy there, FUCK YA DDoSers
Mar 08 21:37:17 <BitHub>	is this done in real time?
Mar 08 21:37:17 <Namworld>	wow
Mar 08 21:37:18 <nanotube>	mod6: kakobrekla fixed now.
Mar 08 21:37:18 <BitHub>	https://twitter.com/MPEx1
Mar 08 21:37:29 <kakobrekla>	the what?
Mar 08 21:37:33 <Namworld>	that's neat of you.
Mar 08 21:37:53 <Namworld>	I'm booting my Bitcoin Armory. Tip incoming.
Mar 08 21:38:00 <Namworld>	It takes a while to boot tho
Mar 08 21:38:02 <jurov>	i can mirror mpex to the s3 cdn
Mar 08 21:38:09 <jurov>	continously
Mar 08 21:38:23 <[\\\]>	Namworld, get ssd, it loads in <1 minutes
Mar 08 21:38:26 <[\\\]>	-s
Mar 08 21:38:35 <jurov>	and it can accept post requests that show as files in s3 storage
Mar 08 21:39:04 <[\\\]>	lol, ddos amazon!
Mar 08 21:39:06 <Namworld>	... 1 minute?
Mar 08 21:39:18 <Namworld>	It takes me 40 minutes to boot the damn thing
Mar 08 21:39:26 <jcpham>	http://www.redstate.com/2013/03/06/tech-at-night-sacco-vanzetti-and-aaron-swartz-were-all-guilty-its-time-to-break-up-the-bitcoin-ring/
Mar 08 21:39:27 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 08 21:39:35 <[\\\]>	you need more ram
Mar 08 21:39:38 <[\\\]>	and an i7
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Mar 08 21:40:51 <Namworld>	I have hexacore with 8 GB ram... the ressources are hardly being used.
Mar 08 21:41:06 <[\\\]>	then you're doing something wrong
Mar 08 21:41:09 <[\\\]>	it shouldn't take that long
Mar 08 21:41:11 <Namworld>	Armory still takes it's goddamn sweet time to load
Mar 08 21:41:18 <[\\\]>	have you updated it?
Mar 08 21:41:27 <Namworld>	It also keeps crashing randomly. And yes, I update it.
Mar 08 21:41:35 <Namworld>	It just keeps screwing up.
Mar 08 21:41:38 <[\\\]>	heh
Mar 08 21:42:09 <Namworld>	months ago, it used to load in 3 minutes
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Mar 08 21:42:42 <Namworld>	now it crashes, doesn't update confirmations while running and take 40 minutes to boot.
Mar 08 21:42:51 <Namworld>	Reinstalling doesn't help.
Mar 08 21:43:14 <[\\\]>	bitcoin .8?
Mar 08 21:43:59 <Namworld>	.8?
Mar 08 21:45:07 <Namworld>	oh, a new bitcoind is out.
Mar 08 21:45:12 <Namworld>	I'll upgrade
Mar 08 21:45:35 <Namworld>	But I've been upgrading bitcoind/armory when new versions come out for quite some time and it never fixed anything.
Mar 08 21:45:52 <jurov>	this one makes a difference
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Mar 08 21:46:49 <Namworld>	I think it's more of a problem with Armory but eh
Mar 08 21:48:11 <Namworld>	I'm reloading the blockchain now...
Mar 08 21:48:24 <Namworld>	Damn, 0.8 is going much faster
Mar 08 21:48:51 <Namworld>	But .7 wasn't really slow to start with.
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Mar 08 21:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	ahh
Mar 08 22:00:06 <mircea_popescu>	so mpex.coinbr.com was down earlier and back up now ?
Mar 08 22:00:21 <Namworld>	no, still not back
Mar 08 22:00:43 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, 504
Mar 08 22:00:59 <Namworld>	the DDoS is persistent... It's been what, 2 or 3 days?
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Mar 08 22:03:58 <nanotube>	so, do we now have a complete bot interface to mpex?
Mar 08 22:04:07 <Namworld>	yes
Mar 08 22:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube two.
Mar 08 22:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	and imsaguy is working on the 3rd
Mar 08 22:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	the drawbacks of having a dayjob lol. it was his idea to start with
Mar 08 22:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i see it ?
Mar 08 22:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	hm now its timing out
Mar 08 22:06:27 <nanotube>	great. :)
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Mar 08 22:06:53 <Namworld>	It was down. I think jurov is currently putting it back up on amazon
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Mar 08 22:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 08 22:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067334 / 0.00073042 / 0.00075 (329638 shares, 240.77 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074909 / 0.00078628 (11033986 shares, 8,265.55 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00068474 / 0.00078628 (60249830 shares, 41,255.72 BTC)
Mar 08 22:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	so basically all systems are a go except web
Mar 08 22:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	this must be pissing the web crowd off
Mar 08 22:08:37 *	BitHub rages at mircea, throws monitor out the window
Mar 08 22:08:51 <Namworld>	Well I could sign orders manually and use the bot
Mar 08 22:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	7day OIX :
Mar 08 22:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	46.96 (48.56 / 33.66)
Mar 08 22:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	27`206.06 (89.3 / 10.7)
Mar 08 22:09:10 <Namworld>	But that's slow to swiftly switch orders around.
Mar 08 22:09:18 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 08 22:09:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.90000, Best ask: 43.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.09900, Last trade: 43.99900, 24 hour volume: 43158.15323252, 24 hour low: 42.00000, 24 hour high: 44.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.43720
Mar 08 22:09:27 <Namworld>	Good for just placing an order or two.
Mar 08 22:09:29 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i suppose you could write an irc bot of your own
Mar 08 22:09:39 <Bowjob>	why dont we stop selling BTC for USD and jus BTC all together
Mar 08 22:09:50 <Bowjob>	that way gox prices wont go down, and if we pay with BTC the value doesnt go down
Mar 08 22:09:54 <Namworld>	That would be assuming I could even program such a thing. I don't have the know-how to.
Mar 08 22:10:08 <Bowjob>	seems like a win win situation if everyone does that
Mar 08 22:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld im sure one will crop up soon enough, much like pympex did
Mar 08 22:10:28 <Bowjob>	if they sell to USD, its lose-lose. btc value goes down and they get fiat
Mar 08 22:10:29 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 08 22:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob don't tell me about it, i aint sellin :)
Mar 08 22:10:46 <Namworld>	Because merchants being paid in BTC needs to sell them to buy the goods from others in USD...
Mar 08 22:11:09 <jurov>	and i'm researching users posting orders directly into amazon s3 :)
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Mar 08 22:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://blockchain.info/ still dead ?
Mar 08 22:11:27 <Bowjob>	those merchants that need goods should pay other merchants in btc
Mar 08 22:11:29 <Bowjob>	and so forth
Mar 08 22:11:31 <Namworld>	a DDoS resistant MPEx interface.
Mar 08 22:11:34 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 08 22:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol well folks... i hate to be the one feeding the conspiracy theories, but
Mar 08 22:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	while it's marginally possible some random internet bloke has the power to be doing all this, it seems somewhat unlikely.
Mar 08 22:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	there is a lot of skill and there are a lot of resources involved with such ample ddosing
Mar 08 22:12:55 <jborkl_>	i already thought of this, and I know who
Mar 08 22:13:02 <Namworld>	Anyone with a good botnet could do so, but why?
Mar 08 22:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	just the traffic i've clocked, and i've not clocked all of it, would have cost on the black market a good few thousand $$$
Mar 08 22:13:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 11 @ 0.62997 = 6.9297 BTC [-]
Mar 08 22:13:31 <Namworld>	Where's the request for money for it to stop?
Mar 08 22:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	even if im getting half of all ddos bitcoing is getting , that puts the total cost of this adventure in the 10k range
Mar 08 22:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	not counting the time and effort involved on the admin side
Mar 08 22:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld no, not anyone.
Mar 08 22:14:16 <mircea_popescu>	there's literally not that many people with a botnet good enough
Mar 08 22:14:21 <Namworld>	Unless it was started by a botnet owner, not purchased off the black market.
Mar 08 22:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	also there's risks involved (if you run it continuously isps find your zombies)
Mar 08 22:14:32 <Namworld>	Infected computers don't cost much to operate.
Mar 08 22:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	ya but ideologically speaking, it'd seem an odd fit to ddos bitcoin
Mar 08 22:14:58 <Namworld>	Seems it's targeting MPEx only.
Mar 08 22:15:15 <Namworld>	MPEx has a huge wallet... I would have thought ransom request.
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Mar 08 22:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	some people have thought so/asked, but...
Mar 08 22:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	nothing so far.
Mar 08 22:15:57 <jborkl_>	whoo is the biggest dipshit with a grudge? There is your answer
Mar 08 22:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	and blockchain.info wallet for instance isn't all that fat.
Mar 08 22:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ i dunno ?
Mar 08 22:16:37 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/44886495299/audio-erik-voorhees-on-the-peter-schiff-show
Mar 08 22:17:06 <jborkl_>	that Has 24hr access to botnets
Mar 08 22:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 08 22:17:45 <smickles>	eskimo!
Mar 08 22:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol totally.
Mar 08 22:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	muggos
Mar 08 22:17:59 <smickles>	no
Mar 08 22:18:01 <smickles>	ciuciu
Mar 08 22:18:23 <smickles>	that guy was off a whole other hinge
Mar 08 22:18:29 <Namworld>	I don't think any of these individuals have such botnet access.
Mar 08 22:18:38 <smickles>	prolly not
Mar 08 22:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	ciuciu couldn't afgford to retire his 50 btc debt are you kidding m,e ?
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Mar 08 22:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	deposits/withdrawals flushed
Mar 08 22:24:00 <pigeons>	if someone wants to pm me a proxy
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Mar 08 22:28:02 <BitHub>	hey guys check out my ticker bithub.asia hope to be adding some assets prices and gold and silver prices soon :)
Mar 08 22:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [+]
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Mar 08 22:28:32 <mircea_popescu>	anyone want to process a coupla donations to freenode for me ? you need cc/pp
Mar 08 22:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.52998999 BTC [+]
Mar 08 22:29:10 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: how much money are we talking?
Mar 08 22:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	like 60 gbp
Mar 08 22:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.54879 BTC [+]
Mar 08 22:31:14 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub o wow, marquee.. haven't seen that in a while
Mar 08 22:31:24 <dub>	you can get a spoof for free just ask in #freenode
Mar 08 22:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	i want to pay them tho.
Mar 08 22:32:14 <BitHub>	thanks mircea, hope to have some mpex in there soon and have it in real time
Mar 08 22:32:43 <kakobrekla>	pigeons did you get it?
Mar 08 22:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.569 = 9.104 BTC [+]
Mar 08 22:35:20 <jborkl_>	Illlsend it Mp, tell me the detdeta
Mar 08 22:35:27 <jborkl_>	details
Mar 08 22:35:34 <Chaang-Noi>	blockchain.info down?
Mar 08 22:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi since this morning
Mar 08 22:35:47 <jborkl_>	goddam. Phone
Mar 08 22:35:49 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks
Mar 08 22:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	something/somebody is going after crucial bitcoin infrastructure
Mar 08 22:36:13 <Chaang-Noi>	im not too shocked, someone just wants lower priced coins
Mar 08 22:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Mar 08 22:36:45 <mircea_popescu>	mpex is hanging by a thread, mostly because it doesn't actually need a website
Mar 08 22:36:54 <mircea_popescu>	but website centric services are going to be painful.
Mar 08 22:37:03 <Namworld>	Someone manipulated the price. Convinced businesses to accept Bitcoin and newswriter to make good articles.
Mar 08 22:37:27 <Namworld>	Now that he's sold at a hefty price all he got, he's attacking stuff to send it all back down.
Mar 08 22:37:41 *	Namworld puts his tinfoil hat
Mar 08 22:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	it won't work.
Mar 08 22:38:45 <Namworld>	Doesn't seem to be.
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Mar 08 22:39:25 <BitHub>	so
Mar 08 22:39:29 <BitHub>	government, trolls?
Mar 08 22:39:48 <Chaang-Noi>	holy shit, is today saterday?
Mar 08 22:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Mar 08 22:40:01 <Namworld>	yes, for you at least
Mar 08 22:40:04 <Namworld>	almost for me
Mar 08 22:40:11 <BitHub>	yep saturday lunch time
Mar 08 22:40:13 <Chaang-Noi>	oh fuck, i thought it was sunday
Mar 08 22:40:51 <Chaang-Noi>	oh wow
Mar 08 22:41:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i got messed up on thursday
Mar 08 22:41:37 <BitHub>	niiiice
Mar 08 22:41:43 <BitHub>	good break from bitcoin
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Mar 08 22:43:31 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: what have you been drinking recently?
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Mar 08 22:53:35 <dub>	mircea_popescu: fatter tube holding up?
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Mar 08 22:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	dub so far we're doing irc bot trade.
Mar 08 22:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	!help
Mar 08 22:54:03 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 08 22:54:04 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 08 22:54:05 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 08 22:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	$help
Mar 08 22:54:16 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
Mar 08 22:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	bah
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Mar 08 22:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	$help post
Mar 08 22:54:24 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (post <paste key>) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.
Mar 08 22:54:31 <BitHub>	irc trade is cool
Mar 08 22:54:50 <BitHub>	i like the idea of twitter trading for mainstreamers for situations like this
Mar 08 22:55:04 <Chaang-Noi>	on bitfunder can you not see the market if you do not have an account?
Mar 08 22:55:16 <BitHub>	you can see what each asset is worth
Mar 08 22:55:22 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 08 22:55:26 <BitHub>	and bids and asks on teh asset
Mar 08 22:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	actually brokers also work fine, the only thing off is the website
Mar 08 22:55:48 <dub>	Chaang-Noi: https://bitfunder.com/market
Mar 08 22:56:06 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks dub facepalm for no link to that one the homepage...
Mar 08 22:56:31 <dub>	its there the site doesnt work in some browsers
Mar 08 22:56:36 <dub>	I had the same problem
Mar 08 22:56:51 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
Mar 08 22:56:59 <dub>	you can still facepalm
Mar 08 22:57:01 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer at .7 on both sites, not bad
Mar 08 22:57:09 <BitHub>	brokers?
Mar 08 22:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub yes. jurov, smickles etc
Mar 08 22:57:30 <BitHub>	ahh so you actually have mpex brokers that can trade outside of mpex?
Mar 08 22:57:50 <BitHub>	sorry i thought it was something dif
Mar 08 22:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean outside of mpex ?!
Mar 08 22:58:25 <BitHub>	so i could be a broker for outsiders just by having a membership? :)
Mar 08 22:58:27 <pigeons>	yawn http://www.pymnts.com/briefing-room/PYMNTS-International/2013/02/How-Owning-Bitcoin-Is-Owning-An-ETF-On-The-Whole-Bitcoin-Space
Mar 08 22:58:33 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Mar 08 22:58:33 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 08 22:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub yup
Mar 08 22:59:33 <BitHub>	ima have to sign up if i ever see 30btc to spare
Mar 08 22:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:f1d64cbfe5e2c1cd476971545c0677c8865a7770210dd351e8d0d57a
Mar 08 22:59:38 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 08 22:59:39 <BitHub>	have*
Mar 08 23:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate pizzaman1337 2 Official supplier of freenode chains.
Mar 08 23:00:11 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user pizzaman1337 has been recorded.
Mar 08 23:03:03 <pizzaman1337>	;;rate mircea_popescu 2 MPEx and one otc deal
Mar 08 23:03:04 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
Mar 08 23:04:29 <Bowjob>	this btc sell off is mildly entertaining
Mar 08 23:04:40 <Bowjob>	watching coinlab.. bulls vs bears fighting
Mar 08 23:05:45 <pigeons>	sel off? its higher than last time i looked by a few dollars
Mar 08 23:06:22 <pizzaman1337>	;;rate kakobrekla 3 Great experience with Bit4X, highly recommended
Mar 08 23:06:23 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user kakobrekla has been recorded.
Mar 08 23:06:50 <kakobrekla>	thanks :)
Mar 08 23:07:00 <pizzaman1337>	np, thank you, man
Mar 08 23:07:05 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> what do you mean outside of mpex ?! << transfer ownership of mpex assest as people, preferrably with contracts
Mar 08 23:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	that'd seem to be inside of mpex :p
Mar 08 23:08:29 <smickles>	just because it's in my mpex account, doesn't mean i necessarily own it. I may hold it for another who then wants to trade with a third who wants me to hold it for them as well
Mar 08 23:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	hm is kakobrekla catching up ?
Mar 08 23:08:39 <smickles>	trade happened off mpex
Mar 08 23:08:45 <kakobrekla>	yeah, better downrate me quick mircea_popescu
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Mar 08 23:08:50 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 08 23:08:53 <kakobrekla>	;)
Mar 08 23:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	smickles well, let's see here.
Mar 08 23:09:10 <mircea_popescu>	on one hand, if you're a broker, then you enter trades into the exchange at the behest of customers.
Mar 08 23:09:11 <kakobrekla>	id be at 200 if id been a rating whore
Mar 08 23:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	if you don't enter the trades you're not a broker, you're a bucket shot.
Mar 08 23:09:36 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand, if you're acting in a private capacity obviously you can do whatever you want with your own assets.
Mar 08 23:09:51 <doctor_pullfingr>	what's a bucket shot?
Mar 08 23:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	now, as long as the third party knows this, ie, you're not presenting yourself as a broker when you're not brokering this is all fine
Mar 08 23:10:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;google bucket shop
Mar 08 23:10:00 <gribble>	Bucket shop (stock market) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_shop_(stock_market)>; Bucket shop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_shop>; The Bucket Shop Cafe: <http://www.bucketshopcafe.com/>
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Mar 08 23:10:42 <smickles>	also there is the taboo way to trade off mpex
Mar 08 23:10:52 <smickles>	or actually
Mar 08 23:11:01 <pigeons>	ripple ious for mpex assets
Mar 08 23:11:07 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 08 23:11:12 <smickles>	how about this, register, buy X, sell the gpg key
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Mar 08 23:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	well, it's not taboo, it's just kinda stupid
Mar 08 23:11:39 <smickles>	or rather, sell X and deliver the key
Mar 08 23:11:49 <doctor_pullfingr>	has anyone tried open transactions ious?  I like that ripple idea but they don't have a server
Mar 08 23:12:23 <doctor_pullfingr>	I think you only get one key
Mar 08 23:12:34 <pigeons>	doctor_pullfingr: knotwork runs 2 open-transactions servers. ripple does have a server. do you mean cause they didnt open source the server yet?
Mar 08 23:12:41 <smickles>	i tried OT, but it took so much to install on my system that i kinda burned out on it
Mar 08 23:13:26 <doctor_pullfingr>	i don't care if they open source the server or whatever, private licensees is fine, I just want my own server.
Mar 08 23:13:27 <smickles>	afaik, you get as many keys as you buy
Mar 08 23:13:41 <smickles>	(well, that's a silly way to put it)
Mar 08 23:13:58 <doctor_pullfingr>	yes, I meant one key for 30 btc.
Mar 08 23:14:19 <pigeons>	you can have as many keys as you like but the keys arent "active" without 200 xrp owner reserve + 50 xrp + 50 xrp per trust line
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Mar 08 23:15:39 <kakobrekla>	any practical uses for ripple yet?
Mar 08 23:16:26 <pigeons>	same as before, private payment networks, plus now the integration with bitstamp and ukto's weexchange
Mar 08 23:16:40 <doctor_pullfingr>	Oh,  I thought you meant sell the mpex key.  I got the free ripples so I can sign up people already have,  but I still want my own server.
Mar 08 23:16:58 <doctor_pullfingr>	for arbitrage or something
Mar 08 23:17:13 <doctor_pullfingr>	maybe one of those fancy ripple gateways
Mar 08 23:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	is bitstamp the russian one ?
Mar 08 23:18:20 <kakobrekla>	slovenian
Mar 08 23:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	with the novacocacoin ?
Mar 08 23:18:41 <kakobrekla>	that is btc-e
Mar 08 23:18:42 <kakobrekla>	i think
Mar 08 23:19:20 <kakobrekla>	bitstamp is retarded, the only reason they have so big market share is cause they dont hassle folks with ids n stuff
Mar 08 23:19:51 <doctor_pullfingr>	thanks mp for the lesson  I'll be changing my nick to bucketshop soon
Mar 08 23:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Mar 08 23:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 08 23:21:28 <doctor_pullfingr>	kakobrekla aren't we discussing the practical use of ripple?
Mar 08 23:21:57 <kakobrekla>	the practical use of ripple invloves bitstamp which involves retardation
Mar 08 23:22:33 <Bowjob>	http://www.runtogold.com/images/potential-bitcoin-prices.jpg
Mar 08 23:22:37 <Bowjob>	This got me a boner
Mar 08 23:22:38 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 08 23:22:43 <Bowjob>	lalaland
Mar 08 23:24:01 <doctor_pullfingr>	I think there is a ripple gateway client in the wild but to make it work with mpex seat you need the to server.  I'm floating the idea for comments,  I don't know for sure if this will work.
Mar 08 23:24:20 <doctor_pullfingr>	*ot server
Mar 08 23:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	you need the what ?
Mar 08 23:25:25 <knotwork>	There is some kind of ubunto install now for OT, you just tell your system about the repo and use apt-get or somesuch to install it
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Mar 08 23:27:12 <doctor_pullfingr>	mp Open Transactions Server
Mar 08 23:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Mar 08 23:29:33 <knotwork>	no idea, I dont see how OT helps with mpex really
Mar 08 23:29:39 <maximian>	can someone pm me an mpex proxy?
Mar 08 23:30:10 <doctor_pullfingr>	If I want to sell ripple ious where people pay me bullshit fiat and I automatically purchase beloved satoshi dice, then I need something that talks to mpex.  I think OT is the closest tool for that,,but some automation is probably lacking.
Mar 08 23:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	what's wrong with pympex ?
Mar 08 23:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	maximian :
Mar 08 23:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	!help
Mar 08 23:31:47 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 08 23:31:48 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 08 23:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	$help post
Mar 08 23:31:49 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (post <paste key>) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.
Mar 08 23:31:49 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 08 23:32:16 <maximian>	I'm lazy… just wanted to replace a string in pympex
Mar 08 23:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	a kk
Mar 08 23:32:26 <mircea_popescu>	didn't know if you knew or not
Mar 08 23:32:34 <doctor_pullfingr>	nothing at all wrong with pympex.  I use it happily.  Are you
Mar 08 23:32:48 <maximian>	does pympex now work with this irc bot?
Mar 08 23:33:30 <Namworld>	Would be nice, but no.
Mar 08 23:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	nah, it would have to be encapsulated into a supybot
Mar 08 23:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	kinda trivial but someone has to sit down and do it
Mar 08 23:34:59 <doctor_pullfingr>	I;lll give it a shot
Mar 08 23:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	doctor_pullfingr im just thinking, you want to talk to mpex programatically, pympex is like two pages of python
Mar 08 23:35:11 <mircea_popescu>	there's also a perl script
Mar 08 23:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	seem the easiest, just use as a lib
Mar 08 23:35:54 <maximian>	mircea_popescu: what about setting up 100 AWS t1.micro instances (only $23/year if reserved, or $1.91/month), and install the proxy server and bind on each. Then add all 100 instance IPs as A records to mpex.co.
Mar 08 23:36:07 <doctor_pullfingr>	I'm kinda worried about security on that approach because Im just some warehouse developer.
Mar 08 23:36:54 <mircea_popescu>	maximian wanna do it ?
Mar 08 23:37:04 <maximian>	LOL… I have a life :)
Mar 08 23:37:17 <mircea_popescu>	doctor_pullfingr i scarcely see how more code can mean more security, in principle.
Mar 08 23:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	maximian :p
Mar 08 23:37:59 <Bowjob>	someone in the us got their Avalon now
Mar 08 23:38:01 <Bowjob>	take that BFL
Mar 08 23:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	bfl is so dead...
Mar 08 23:38:33 <Bowjob>	i wonder how likely it is that by the time my avalon 2 ships, bfl still hasn't shipped?
Mar 08 23:38:38 <doctor_pullfingr>	I'm not at all against that, just voicing a concern.  I had the idea that the developer for the OT server thought more about authentication more than I care to think about it
Mar 08 23:38:46 <Bowjob>	theres 200 BTC say NO on bitbet
Mar 08 23:38:50 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 08 23:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 08 23:38:56 <Bowjob>	was it you?
Mar 08 23:39:04 <Bowjob>	or bfl themselves lol
Mar 08 23:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	doctor_pullfingr yeah, i'm mostly talking outloud on the topic too
Mar 08 23:39:24 <knotwork>	mpex uses gpg authentication though so why you need OT's auth on top of that?
Mar 08 23:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob who knows
Mar 08 23:39:45 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork i took it he meant he's concerned as to what to do with the data coming out of pympex
Mar 08 23:39:46 <Bowjob>	i feel bad for mr 500 BTC on yes
Mar 08 23:39:48 <knotwork>	though I suppose you could plug in GPG libs instead of OTs currencty crypto libs since it meant to be pluggable
Mar 08 23:40:17 <doctor_pullfingr>	I don't have enough rich friends where I can convince them to spend 30 BTC per account.
Mar 08 23:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob bitbet is doing some brisk trade this month for sure
Mar 08 23:40:29 <knotwork>	what is the actual use case? own things in mpex on behalf of people you act as broker for?
Mar 08 23:40:56 <doctor_pullfingr>	pretty much.  yes.
Mar 08 23:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	prolly jurov can help you there
Mar 08 23:41:27 <Namworld>	I have passthrough
Mar 08 23:41:35 <Namworld>	passthroughs*
Mar 08 23:41:35 <knotwork>	so you want to tamper-proof your own records of what you are holding on behalf of who?
Mar 08 23:41:46 <maximian>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016859/
Mar 08 23:41:46 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 08 23:41:48 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016860/plain/
Mar 08 23:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	dude this irc bot thing is so cute...
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Mar 08 23:42:38 <maximian>	That's so fucking cool
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Mar 08 23:42:52 <mircea_popescu>	maximian ikr ?!
Mar 08 23:42:53 <maximian>	it just needs to be integrated into pympex and we're done
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Mar 08 23:43:18 <knotwork>	its suprising people actually use IRC bot. I made entire exchanges between umpteen coin types before and no one ever used it
Mar 08 23:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork when i brought mpex back after it's half day pause yest
Mar 08 23:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	trades kept dinging i dunno if any under 50 btc
Mar 08 23:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	like maybe 1k in an hour
Mar 08 23:44:46 <knotwork>	yeah weird, as it even still needs the gpg that people complain about
Mar 08 23:45:07 <knotwork>	mine was plain IRC bot, just say hello to it give it password, standard insecure crap like normal people seem to prefer
Mar 08 23:45:31 <knotwork>	held wallet for you based on your IRC nick, one wallet per type of altcoin
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Mar 08 23:46:27 <knotwork>	is it true at all that using Tor .onion site or i2p site these DDOS attacks would not work?
Mar 08 23:46:42 <knotwork>	I would've though the DDOS might just kind of clog entire Tor or i2p system
Mar 08 23:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.545 = 1.635 BTC [-]
Mar 08 23:51:08 <maximian>	It looks like you can actually start 100 t1.micro instances in Amazon's Ireland data centre… tempting
Mar 08 23:51:21 <maximian>	keep it out of the U.S.
Mar 08 23:51:33 <pizzaman1337>	but Amazon is a US company
Mar 08 23:51:39 <maximian>	true
Mar 08 23:51:44 <maximian>	I wonder how that plays out legally
Mar 08 23:51:50 <doctor_pullfingr>	so, sounds like old school irc server and irc bot/supybot/pympex is all I need
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Mar 08 23:53:00 <doctor_pullfingr>	to hook up mpex to ripple
Mar 08 23:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork the tor proposition is a little more complicated
Mar 08 23:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	there are chokepoints
Mar 08 23:53:34 <mircea_popescu>	maximian so go for it, you'll have a second life
Mar 08 23:53:51 <mircea_popescu>	doctor_pullfingr i don't see why you'd need an irc server
Mar 08 23:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	just get a vps, run a supybot on it,
Mar 08 23:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	to talk to the irc bots, and you're golden
Mar 08 23:54:14 <maximian>	it'd be $437/month on a spot-price basis
Mar 08 23:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	alternatively, wait till main mpex.co comes online
Mar 08 23:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	maximian if you do it i'll cover your first month.
Mar 08 23:55:17 <knotwork>	does email still work for communicating with mpex?
Mar 08 23:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork what do yo umean still ?
Mar 08 23:55:54 <knotwork>	its how I originally isgned up I think?
Mar 08 23:56:06 <knotwork>	tho hmm maybe I did use web for status command
Mar 08 23:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	a yeah, t osign up. you gotta send me your public key
Mar 08 23:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	but mx down atm. send me a pastie
Mar 08 23:56:26 <knotwork>	oh but thats it, email doesnt work for whole panoply of commands?
Mar 08 23:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	knotwork it never did. i said at some point day before yest that if the worst comes to worst im taking mpex to email
Mar 08 23:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	as a sort of bottom.
Mar 08 23:57:59 <Namworld>	Someone would have to be strongly dedicated for that to happen tho
Mar 08 23:58:15 <Namworld>	Anyway, I'm off to sleep. Night
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Mar 09 00:00:08 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137534.1360
Mar 09 00:00:14 <Bowjob>	These are some delicious pictures
Mar 09 00:01:31 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Mar 09 00:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	so avalon hashing
Mar 09 00:01:47 <Bowjob>	68 gigahash
Mar 09 00:02:04 <Bowjob>	printing over $300 equivalent
Mar 09 00:02:06 <Bowjob>	per day
Mar 09 00:02:08 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 09 00:02:09 <Bowjob>	not bad
Mar 09 00:03:24 <Bowjob>	Also,
Mar 09 00:03:25 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.0
Mar 09 00:03:34 <Bowjob>	Looks like BFL might downgrade their specs
Mar 09 00:04:03 <maximian>	$depth
Mar 09 00:04:06 <mpexbot>	maximian: http://pastebin.com/ESBV6WRm
Mar 09 00:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	bfl wil lgo down in history.
Mar 09 00:07:12 <jcpham>	who wants me to tell them how paranoid i am
Mar 09 00:07:40 <jcpham>	it's an interesting story about two events
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Mar 09 00:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	go ahead
Mar 09 00:08:05 <jcpham>	i received two phone calls this evening within 10 minutes on different phones
Mar 09 00:08:10 <jcpham>	unintelligellible speech
Mar 09 00:08:18 <jcpham>	one by voicemail
Mar 09 00:08:23 <jcpham>	one i spoke to
Mar 09 00:08:32 <jcpham>	i think it was information gathering
Mar 09 00:08:38 <pizzaman1337>	https://blockchain.info/ is back
Mar 09 00:09:04 <jcpham>	i'm downloading the voicemail recording to study the waveform
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Mar 09 00:15:05 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham what information would be gathered ?
Mar 09 00:15:41 <jcpham>	i'm not sure... my voice, my location
Mar 09 00:15:59 <jcpham>	considering how often my phone rings
Mar 09 00:18:19 <Ukto>	Bowjob: so that was another batch 1 shipment that got delivered today? 0,o
Mar 09 00:18:21 <Ukto>	seems a bit behind
Mar 09 00:19:13 <Bowjob>	behind against?
Mar 09 00:19:43 <Bowjob>	its not like all the people who got them are posting
Mar 09 00:19:57 <Bowjob>	this chinese dude didnt tell the forums until he had problems
Mar 09 00:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	well, they did take forever]
Mar 09 00:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	originally it was going to be shipped in january
Mar 09 00:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	but still. deliveries are deliveries.
Mar 09 00:20:31 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 09 00:20:33 <gribble>	Time since last block: 14 minutes and 31 seconds
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Mar 09 00:21:33 <Ukto>	ahh, i saw the package picture and thought it just arrived
Mar 09 00:24:41 <jcpham>	gavin emailed some pools
Mar 09 00:24:51 <jcpham>	suggested increasing block limit
Mar 09 00:25:04 <mircea_popescu>	paste ?
Mar 09 00:25:05 <jcpham>	or reminded them of where the config settings for this are located
Mar 09 00:25:15 <jcpham>	bitcoinfoundation blog
Mar 09 00:25:21 <jcpham>	prolly wanna follow that one
Mar 09 00:28:04 <jcpham>	https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=135
Mar 09 00:28:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol at this guy
Mar 09 00:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	he's not recommending anything but here's some guesswork.
Mar 09 00:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	gavin should working in the bitcoin diplomatic corps
Mar 09 00:28:38 <mircea_popescu>	with nanotube
Mar 09 00:29:18 <jcpham>	it's better than nothing
Mar 09 00:30:00 <mircea_popescu>	hey, i'm for it.
Mar 09 00:30:08 <jcpham>	i like how he does fear, uncertainty, and doubt as three separate bitcointalk forum links
Mar 09 00:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	i had closed it before that
Mar 09 00:30:30 <jcpham>	awwwwww
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Mar 09 00:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	i skim.
Mar 09 00:33:28 <nanotube>	>_>
Mar 09 00:34:02 <jcpham>	nanotube how goes the diplomatic corps
Mar 09 00:34:35 <jcpham>	the kids are totally abusing gribble
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Mar 09 00:48:03 <nanotube>	:)
Mar 09 00:49:48 <jborkl>	! Mp http://pastebin.com/FZPJL3V6
Mar 09 00:50:19 <jborkl>	!mp http://pastebin.com/FZPJL3V6
Mar 09 00:50:19 <assbot>	Please use http://dpaste.com/
Mar 09 00:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl the mpexbot uses pastebin
Mar 09 00:50:31 <mircea_popescu>	you got them mingled
Mar 09 00:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	$post FZPJL3V6
Mar 09 00:50:57 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/VEWf0P3T
Mar 09 00:50:58 <jborkl>	Ok, I almost have it worked out, to take mpex on your phone
Mar 09 00:51:05 <jborkl>	Trade
Mar 09 00:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	kickass
Mar 09 00:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 you hear that ? they're stealing your pie man!
Mar 09 00:51:25 <jborkl>	Two steps, working out the kinks
Mar 09 00:51:49 <nanotube>	!help
Mar 09 00:51:50 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 00:51:51 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 00:51:52 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 00:52:06 <nanotube>	mmm :)
Mar 09 00:52:38 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube $help post
Mar 09 00:53:00 <nanotube>	$help post
Mar 09 00:53:01 <mpexbot>	nanotube: (post <paste key>) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.
Mar 09 00:53:07 <nanotube>	nice :)
Mar 09 00:53:25 <nanotube>	maybe consider making a separate channel with some help in topic.
Mar 09 00:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Mar 09 00:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	tho... to what benefit ?
Mar 09 00:53:47 <nanotube>	to make the different bots and their commands more discoverable...
Mar 09 00:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	bots also rtake pms
Mar 09 00:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	yeah the topic might use some reworking. things very fluid still.
Mar 09 00:54:45 <nanotube>	k. looking good :)
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Mar 09 00:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. the main mpex should be online soon and maybe maximian brings online a suite of tinies ?
Mar 09 00:57:40 <jborkl>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016902/
Mar 09 00:57:41 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 00:57:42 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016904/plain/
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Mar 09 01:00:22 <jborkl>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016906/
Mar 09 01:00:23 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 01:00:25 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016907/plain/
Mar 09 01:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl which mpex key are you using?
Mar 09 01:01:29 <jborkl>	F3e1
Mar 09 01:02:19 <jborkl>	I got it off the key server,since I am doing this on my phone
Mar 09 01:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's only the 9th
Mar 09 01:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	F1B69921 not expired yet
Mar 09 01:03:42 <jborkl>	Ok, thanks. The phone will trade easily with the bot
Mar 09 01:04:02 <jborkl>	Only a couple steps, and they could be combined
Mar 09 01:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool
Mar 09 01:05:00 <jborkl>	It opens the potential, so people don't have to use python or be proficient with gpg
Mar 09 01:05:30 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Mar 09 01:10:43 <jborkl>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016911/
Mar 09 01:10:43 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 01:10:45 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016913/plain/
Mar 09 01:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	Nearly 80 percent of New York City high school graduates need to relearn basic skills before they can enter the City University’s community college system. They had to re-learn basic skills — reading, writing and math — first before they could begin college courses.
Mar 09 01:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	win.
Mar 09 01:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl i wonder what the trouble is there.
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Mar 09 01:15:57 <Rick__>	Hi,why MPEx still cant be used?
Mar 09 01:16:32 <Rick__>	And I withdrawed 423bitcoin yesterday,and didnt receive yet
Mar 09 01:17:10 <jborkl>	¡
Mar 09 01:17:27 <Bowjob>	shit
Mar 09 01:17:30 <Bowjob>	i forgot how to read
Mar 09 01:17:41 <Bowjob>	how the fuck do you forget how to read
Mar 09 01:18:28 <Rick__>	any MPEx staff here?
Mar 09 01:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ sup rick
Mar 09 01:20:31 <mircea_popescu>	looky here :
Mar 09 01:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	$help
Mar 09 01:20:33 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
Mar 09 01:20:34 <Rick__>	MPEx,I still cant open the website
Mar 09 01:20:43 <mircea_popescu>	yes, but you can use these bots to trade with.
Mar 09 01:20:49 <mircea_popescu>	$help post
Mar 09 01:20:49 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (post <paste key>) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.
Mar 09 01:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	!help
Mar 09 01:20:54 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 01:20:55 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 01:20:56 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 01:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	you put your command into either pastebin or dpaste
Mar 09 01:21:18 <mircea_popescu>	then you give the bot the id of it
Mar 09 01:21:23 <mircea_popescu>	and it gives you back a link to the response
Mar 09 01:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	i've flushed deposits/withdrawals a number of times since yesterday,
Mar 09 01:21:46 <Rick__>	so complicated for me~~~~~~
Mar 09 01:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	if you didn't get yours processed tghere was a problem with it (such as it being larger than the amt available, for instance)
Mar 09 01:22:27 <Rick__>	so when can I receive my withdraw?
Mar 09 01:22:32 <Rick__>	it's 423
Mar 09 01:22:38 <jborkl>	Mp, I am just tired. But I have it worked out to trade from the phone easily
Mar 09 01:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ if you've not received it yet there was a problem with it
Mar 09 01:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	do a STAT to make sure what you can withdraw the do a withdrawal.
Mar 09 01:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl very cool
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Mar 09 01:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ do you understand ?
Mar 09 01:25:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.74 = 13.32 BTC [-]
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Mar 09 01:25:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.749 = 1.498 BTC [+]
Mar 09 01:25:40 <Rick__>	o shit,you are right,I put a number big then I have
Mar 09 01:25:50 <Rick__>	my mistake
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Mar 09 01:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	np.
Mar 09 01:26:26 <Rick__>	and about the bots,I can only use them here?
Mar 09 01:26:28 <mircea_popescu>	issue a fixed order, i'm arround so it will be processed fast.
Mar 09 01:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ yes, at the moment.
Mar 09 01:26:42 <mircea_popescu>	we are working to bring much more power online, but it may take a little longer.
Mar 09 01:26:46 <Rick__>	and when will the MPEx be back/
Mar 09 01:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	as soon as possible. you can read a status update on the forum
Mar 09 01:27:11 <Rick__>	link
Mar 09 01:27:21 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1598165#msg1598165
Mar 09 01:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	here and read down it's the whole story.
Mar 09 01:27:26 <Rick__>	thank you
Mar 09 01:27:54 <mircea_popescu>	also people like jborkl_ are working to bring trade interface to phones
Mar 09 01:28:00 <Rick__>	and how can I give a withdraw command here/
Mar 09 01:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	i'll walk you through it.
Mar 09 01:28:16 <mircea_popescu>	first make the clearsigned and encrypted text for it as normal
Mar 09 01:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	then put it in pastebin.com
Mar 09 01:28:42 <Rick__>	okay,wait
Mar 09 01:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	np
Mar 09 01:29:27 <Rick__>	about trade interface to phones,that's very very useful,I want know more later
Mar 09 01:30:06 <Rick__>	pastebin.com is a website?I cant open it
Mar 09 01:30:36 <mircea_popescu>	yes http://pastebin.com/
Mar 09 01:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	you can not open that ?
Mar 09 01:31:13 <Rick__>	cant dame Chinese net
Mar 09 01:31:25 <Rick__>	Let me try another way
Mar 09 01:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	ok alternative :
Mar 09 01:32:23 <mircea_popescu>	dpaste.com
Mar 09 01:32:26 <mircea_popescu>	can you see that ?
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Mar 09 01:32:57 <Rick__>	yes,this one works
Mar 09 01:33:08 <Rick__>	and put my text in this one?
Mar 09 01:33:30 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Mar 09 01:33:39 <Rick__>	and what's Syntax
Mar 09 01:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	then say !mp url
Mar 09 01:33:58 <Rick__>	title name and email
Mar 09 01:34:05 <mircea_popescu>	nono
Mar 09 01:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	you put the gpg result.
Mar 09 01:34:19 <mircea_popescu>	first you make your order
Mar 09 01:34:23 <mircea_popescu>	then gpg --clearsign
Mar 09 01:34:53 <Rick__>	yes, just the code,leave other things along?
Mar 09 01:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	yes they dnot matter
Mar 09 01:35:17 <mircea_popescu>	dont*
Mar 09 01:38:26 <Rick__>	Okay,done
Mar 09 01:38:39 <Rick__>	can you see my order?
Mar 09 01:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	you've not ordered it to the bot
Mar 09 01:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	say !mp your paste url
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Mar 09 01:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ what's the url to the paste you made ?
Mar 09 01:40:36 <Rick__>	sorry
Mar 09 01:40:54 <Rick__>	first which is the url you are talking about,i dont understand
Mar 09 01:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	something like
Mar 09 01:41:15 <Rick__>	"url" define it please
Mar 09 01:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://dpaste.com/1016940/
Mar 09 01:41:36 <Rick__>	yes,mine is http://dpaste.com/1016930/
Mar 09 01:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1016930/
Mar 09 01:41:51 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 01:41:53 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1016944/plain/
Mar 09 01:41:58 <mircea_popescu>	there's your response from mpex.
Mar 09 01:42:06 <Rick__>	Okay,cool
Mar 09 01:42:17 <Rick__>	now understand a bit
Mar 09 01:42:27 <Rick__>	sorry,I dont know much about computer
Mar 09 01:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	flushed.
Mar 09 01:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 09 01:45:45 <gribble>	Time since last block: 13 minutes and 9 seconds
Mar 09 01:46:19 <Rick__>	Okay,I gott go,and waiting for MPEx back
Mar 09 01:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	later!
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Mar 09 02:05:04 <BitHub>	is the mpex api data working atm?
Mar 09 02:05:29 <the-bucket-shop>	checking
Mar 09 02:05:46 <BitHub>	thank you
Mar 09 02:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap
Mar 09 02:05:52 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/KcmBKFe0
Mar 09 02:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	seems so
Mar 09 02:06:43 <BitHub>	ahh sweet thank you sir
Mar 09 02:08:51 <mod6>	hey guys
Mar 09 02:08:54 <mod6>	thanks nanotube!
Mar 09 02:10:58 <BitHub>	i guess i have to wait for website to come back to get a website version of the api?
Mar 09 02:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 09 02:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	answer kinda included in the questions innit :D
Mar 09 02:18:33 <jcpham>	i have another super awesome blog-a-ma-post
Mar 09 02:18:36 <jcpham>	coming soon!
Mar 09 02:18:51 <jcpham>	about how me and this dude are video collaborating using mega.co.nz
Mar 09 02:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Mar 09 02:19:40 <jcpham>	me and my friend nick were bitching about how we don't have dropbox accounts
Mar 09 02:19:51 <jcpham>	that hold hundreds of gbs
Mar 09 02:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ 220 to 52 against
Mar 09 02:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ 100 to 13 for
Mar 09 02:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	dude avalon is wiping the floor with bfl
Mar 09 02:20:22 <jcpham>	i should've ordered
Mar 09 02:20:29 <jcpham>	they were quick to deliver on fpga
Mar 09 02:20:37 <jcpham>	nzghang or whatever his name is
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Mar 09 02:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 09 02:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	isn't he the guy whi discovered the chips bfl used in fpga ?
Mar 09 02:22:54 <jcpham>	probably most likely
Mar 09 02:23:03 <jcpham>	seems like he reverse engineered it
Mar 09 02:23:18 <jcpham>	or identified it using all knowlege available
Mar 09 02:25:19 <dub>	he scraped the plastic off
Mar 09 02:26:12 <jcpham>	http://imgur.com/6Xe1Gw9
Mar 09 02:26:25 <jcpham>	maybe he watched the history channel
Mar 09 02:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 09 02:49:06 <midnightmagic>	ngzhang is the one who reverse-engineered the identities of the fpga in bfl singles.
Mar 09 02:49:40 <midnightmagic>	ngzhang reconnected a trace that had been destroyed which prevented the chip from identifying itself normally.
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Mar 09 02:50:36 <midnightmagic>	he is also the most ethical businessperson, next to magicaltux, I have ever seen operating in the ethics-challenged bitcoinland.
Mar 09 02:51:53 <midnightmagic>	present company excepted from such a comparison of course.
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Mar 09 02:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla http://goldprice.org/axstone/uploaded_images/gold_pull-723168.jpg
Mar 09 02:54:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00575 BTC [+]
Mar 09 02:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	have you seen that before ?
Mar 09 02:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic what's some highlights of magicaltux ethicalness ?
Mar 09 02:56:45 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Paying out-of-pocket for all hacks/malfunctions, giving out free yubikeys to help secure accounts, sponsoring events, fighting legal battles to help keep bitcoin legal, maintaining privacy of accounts (excepting the coinlab thing,) participating in infrastructure rollout, keeping permanent historical account trade records..
Mar 09 02:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	i do recall the absorbing of the failed polish exchange
Mar 09 02:57:43 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: he also strongly fights against illegal activities and thefts that use his systems for laundry activities.
Mar 09 02:57:52 <mircea_popescu>	but otherwise, no. trades were rolled back during their hack
Mar 09 02:58:04 <midnightmagic>	he lost 2000 btc from that, and paid out-of-pocket.
Mar 09 02:58:10 <midnightmagic>	so.. yes.
Mar 09 02:58:16 <mircea_popescu>	keyword being all.
Mar 09 02:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	they were out about 180mn dollars on that trade
Mar 09 02:58:42 <Ukto>	"avalon is wiping the floor with bfl" and "asicminer is wiping the floor with avalon"
Mar 09 02:59:13 <midnightmagic>	I'm failing to see how doing an exchange rollback as a result of unauthorized account activity is itself unethical.
Mar 09 02:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto how much do they have online yet ?
Mar 09 02:59:22 <midnightmagic>	;-)
Mar 09 02:59:26 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic i didn't say it's ethical.
Mar 09 02:59:41 <Ukto>	over 9000
Mar 09 02:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	paying out of pocked for all hacks/malfunctions means they honor every single order at 1 cent a bitcoin that was ever made.
Mar 09 02:59:45 <Ukto>	well, over 10th
Mar 09 02:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto so like 150 nominal avalons ?
Mar 09 03:00:02 <midnightmagic>	not in the context of ethical outline
Mar 09 03:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	okay.
Mar 09 03:00:27 <Ukto>	more I am sure
Mar 09 03:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto they were 60gh each, by spec iirc
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Mar 09 03:00:59 <Ukto>	therebouts
Mar 09 03:01:19 <Ukto>	except AMs turnup time is far faster
Mar 09 03:01:34 <Ukto>	I can only say so much
Mar 09 03:01:34 <Ukto>	:)
Mar 09 03:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic the sticky issues in my mind is whether the hacked account at that time was mtgox selftrading on customer credit, and whether the email leak at that time is something they failed to prevent
Mar 09 03:01:48 <Ukto>	kinda sad since i bought avalons and rooting for them
Mar 09 03:01:58 <Ukto>	but i know the reality of things hehe
Mar 09 03:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	well, so they come out to about even as best i can see.
Mar 09 03:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	both had product in january-ish
Mar 09 03:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	bought bring online something like 10-20th by march.
Mar 09 03:02:31 <Ukto>	wiwthin the next 2~6 days
Mar 09 03:02:36 <Ukto>	that wont be true
Mar 09 03:02:55 <mircea_popescu>	okay
Mar 09 03:03:06 <Ukto>	although if I get my avalons in the next week, i will be stoked :P
Mar 09 03:03:09 <Ukto>	but I doubt it
Mar 09 03:03:12 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: There is no evidence that is the case, nor is there any evidence from our perspective that MtGox themselves did anything less than they could have to prevent the account leaks. From what we know, it was either two hacks, one of them being a readout from a financial analyst who had privileged access, and the other being completely unknown, or one hack, being the financial analyst.
Mar 09 03:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic it's a fact that customers had been reporting passwords being broken into which tux/gox blamed on customers, for weeks prior.
Mar 09 03:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	and the guy with the emails db claimed that it was mtgox poor practices (course... he's the thief)
Mar 09 03:04:22 <midnightmagic>	And we have no evidence that that is not the case. Also, many of those who complained publically disappeared and did not pursue the matter when confronted.
Mar 09 03:04:29 <mircea_popescu>	this is also true
Mar 09 03:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	in fact, afaik none did pursue the matter when confronted
Mar 09 03:05:22 <midnightmagic>	One of them did, but only on the forum, and did not seem at all concerned about losing $50k worth of bc.
Mar 09 03:05:33 <midnightmagic>	(that I'm aware of)
Mar 09 03:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	anyways. just taking the opportunity to compare notes.
Mar 09 03:05:57 <midnightmagic>	Point is, MtGox has been exceedingly ethical, especially when contrasted with real-world banks and other financial institutions.
Mar 09 03:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto re avalons, some deliveries have been popping up in the us
Mar 09 03:06:45 <midnightmagic>	Most of the inconsistencies we can see are just as likely to be MT's lack of perfect knowledge of what's going on, which of course I know of no people who are perfectly aware of their own systems.
Mar 09 03:06:55 <midnightmagic>	Yeah, Avalons are being delivered in California already
Mar 09 03:07:00 <Ukto>	yeah, but those are batch 1
Mar 09 03:07:01 <Ukto>	right?
Mar 09 03:07:09 <midnightmagic>	Correct.
Mar 09 03:07:11 <Ukto>	batch 2 shipping eta was mar 5 ~ april 5
Mar 09 03:07:23 <midnightmagic>	Batch #2, as far as I'm aware, hasn't even fully been order-filled.
Mar 09 03:07:24 <Bowjob>	Oh man.. BFL victims caught a bad case of Stockholm Syndrome
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Mar 09 03:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto batch 1 was like 200 units iirc. that's a total 12th or thereabouts.
Mar 09 03:08:25 <mircea_popescu>	this was supposedly ready on january.
Mar 09 03:08:36 <Ukto>	bach 1 was 300
Mar 09 03:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	asicminer, also ready in january, also 12 th, has slowly been bringing units online to about what, 5-7th now
Mar 09 03:08:40 <Bowjob>	well mp, their deadline was actually feb 28
Mar 09 03:08:41 <Ukto>	http://launch.avalon-asics.com/
Mar 09 03:08:51 <Ukto>	yes, as I said
Mar 09 03:08:55 <Bowjob>	the jan 20 was a "bonus"
Mar 09 03:08:57 <Ukto>	I know alot about AM that I cant discuss. :)
Mar 09 03:08:59 <Ukto>	just be ready to be surprised.
Mar 09 03:09:00 <Bowjob>	that never materialized
Mar 09 03:09:23 <Ukto>	technically all of batch 1 was supposed to be shipped by march 1st
Mar 09 03:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob ya well, keeping accurate accounting of all the weird communication people pour into the market out of noobishness and whatever other reasons is difficult.
Mar 09 03:09:35 <Bowjob>	yeah, they were 10 days late
Mar 09 03:09:50 <midnightmagic>	No, not all of it. Only a few dozen units.
Mar 09 03:09:51 <mircea_popescu>	let's just go with a very barebone summary i say
Mar 09 03:10:01 <midnightmagic>	And in China, a few users did in fact receive their units.
Mar 09 03:10:13 <Bowjob>	yifu said feb 28.. then he moved it to possible jan 20 deliver
Mar 09 03:10:25 <Bowjob>	he did deliver 2 on jan, but got shut down by the chinese
Mar 09 03:10:34 <Bowjob>	then resumed on march up to march 10,
Mar 09 03:10:39 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, it's very fortunate and convenient that 1. asics are delivered by two companies with roughly equal output
Mar 09 03:10:40 <midnightmagic>	Some users did get their units outside of jgarzik and the btc foundation.
Mar 09 03:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	and 2. that these are producing each less than about half the network
Mar 09 03:10:55 <Bowjob>	yeah there was this chinese dude that didnt tell the forums
Mar 09 03:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	safest scenario possible, it really surprised me.
Mar 09 03:11:01 <Bowjob>	until he got problems
Mar 09 03:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob there were some who did report privately. i knew of a few.
Mar 09 03:11:23 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 09 03:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	people are in the end allowed to keep their privacy.
Mar 09 03:12:00 <Bowjob>	so avalon did deliver, they are late for the rest though, since their deadline was by march 1st
Mar 09 03:12:26 <Bowjob>	theres this one dude at the forums offering $10000 for an avalon
Mar 09 03:12:35 <Bowjob>	hes lowballing
Mar 09 03:12:49 <BitHub>	primeasic?
Mar 09 03:12:49 <Bowjob>	if bfl fails to deliver, batch 2 avalon will ship
Mar 09 03:13:00 <Bowjob>	no, its just some random dude at the forums
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Mar 09 03:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	10k is lowballing ?!
Mar 09 03:13:12 <Bowjob>	offering to buy an avalon for $10000
Mar 09 03:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	they retailed for like 1300 neh ?
Mar 09 03:13:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 10/13
Mar 09 03:13:31 <gribble>	0.769230769231
Mar 09 03:13:41 <Bowjob>	lemme find the thread
Mar 09 03:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	this is a little more than what asicminer increased. so... he's about in the market atm.
Mar 09 03:14:35 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140519.0
Mar 09 03:14:42 <Bowjob>	is he?
Mar 09 03:14:42 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 03:16:53 <mircea_popescu>	i wou;dn't pay 10k for one.
Mar 09 03:16:59 <Chaang-Noi>	i would odds are pay $10k for a working alalon that was right here right now.
Mar 09 03:17:20 <Chaang-Noi>	could make it back in 15 days
Mar 09 03:17:31 <Chaang-Noi>	at current rates, and bfl wont get there in that time...
Mar 09 03:18:04 <Bowjob>	when will bfl realistically ship?..
Mar 09 03:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	i would pay 1300 dollars within 60 days for a delivered and guaranteed asic.
Mar 09 03:18:11 <Chaang-Noi>	1.5 months is soonest i think
Mar 09 03:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	that's about it.
Mar 09 03:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	computer equipment is computer equpiment.
Mar 09 03:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	what i do with it is nobody's business, what the heck is this.
Mar 09 03:18:33 <Bowjob>	i mean, 200 BTC.. thats says no on bitbet
Mar 09 03:18:35 <Bowjob>	wtf is that
Mar 09 03:18:42 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't pay 10k for a computer just because i can make 10k on a computer in 15 days
Mar 09 03:18:47 <BitHub>	i'm intrested in that film stuff you were saying the other day mircea
Mar 09 03:18:56 <BitHub>	where you doing a commercial for mpex?
Mar 09 03:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	me ? no /
Mar 09 03:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	what film you mean ?
Mar 09 03:19:09 <Chaang-Noi>	not paying something for $10k when you could odds are get $50k from it in 3 months?
Mar 09 03:19:14 <BitHub>	you were going to film a renactment or osmething
Mar 09 03:19:18 <BitHub>	but canceled
Mar 09 03:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi nope. i pay by costs not by what seller judges "i might make"
Mar 09 03:19:23 <Chaang-Noi>	im all about 500%
Mar 09 03:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	that's none of his busioness.
Mar 09 03:19:40 <Chaang-Noi>	well, it was a buyer giving an offer
Mar 09 03:19:41 <BitHub>	do you like films?
Mar 09 03:19:41 <Bowjob>	mhm, i find it good news that the asics that were shipped took a week only
Mar 09 03:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub o, the gumpys. i never cancelled, the other party vanished.
Mar 09 03:19:47 <Bowjob>	considering its from china
Mar 09 03:19:58 <Chaang-Noi>	i doubt anyone would really sell one for only 10k
Mar 09 03:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is so bubbly i swear.
Mar 09 03:20:23 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 09 03:20:24 <Bowjob>	cant wait to get my hands on it. it even comes with gloves
Mar 09 03:20:25 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 03:20:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet asicminer shares are going to bubble soon
Mar 09 03:20:47 <Chaang-Noi>	!ticker
Mar 09 03:20:48 <assbot>	I thought I told you not to touch me.
Mar 09 03:20:55 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 09 03:20:57 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 09 03:20:57 <Bowjob>	damn chang, touching assbot
Mar 09 03:20:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.40666, Best ask: 44.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08334, Last trade: 44.94000, 24 hour volume: 40002.15598561, 24 hour low: 42.41100, 24 hour high: 44.94000, 24 hour vwap: 43.69874
Mar 09 03:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	well, they got as high as the girl's low band.
Mar 09 03:21:03 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they get as high as her high
Mar 09 03:21:08 <Bowjob>	oh.. well as for the asic
Mar 09 03:21:15 <Bowjob>	thats considering you convert it to fiat
Mar 09 03:21:20 <BitHub>	ASICMINER
Mar 09 03:21:22 <Chaang-Noi>	mp i would see 1.5 really
Mar 09 03:21:23 <Bowjob>	which is very difficult for me to do
Mar 09 03:21:24 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 03:21:24 <BitHub>	in all its glory
Mar 09 03:21:26 <Chaang-Noi>	cou7ld*
Mar 09 03:21:42 <Bowjob>	I wonder what people were thinking when they bought Avalon 1
Mar 09 03:21:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i almost bought one
Mar 09 03:21:56 <Bowjob>	josh said theyd deliver faster, and bfl were superior tech wise
Mar 09 03:22:03 <Bowjob>	.. then whats the point of avalon then
Mar 09 03:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi possibly.
Mar 09 03:22:16 <Bowjob>	heck, yifu said avalon wont deliver first
Mar 09 03:22:26 <Bowjob>	.. did someone see through josh's lie?
Mar 09 03:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob i think midnightmagic bought some, you can ask him
Mar 09 03:22:56 <Bowjob>	yeah midnight, if you're from batch 1
Mar 09 03:25:25 <Bowjob>	$44.50
Mar 09 03:25:26 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 03:26:06 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: What was I thinking for batch #1?
Mar 09 03:26:20 <Bowjob>	Yeah.. coz, back then BFL said they would deliver sooner
Mar 09 03:26:24 <Bowjob>	and they had better specs
Mar 09 03:26:32 <Bowjob>	so.. why would anyone buy from Avalon?
Mar 09 03:26:50 <Bowjob>	and yifu announced after bfl announced
Mar 09 03:28:05 <midnightmagic>	Diversity of hardware in the event of asic doomsday, ethics of ngzhang, BFL's past history of late delivery, and I've been mining since Dec '10.
Mar 09 03:28:25 <midnightmagic>	Heck, I was about to order one from cablepair before he went insane.
Mar 09 03:28:48 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 09 03:29:08 <Bowjob>	mhm.. the whole thing was a minefild
Mar 09 03:29:09 <Bowjob>	field
Mar 09 03:29:19 <Bowjob>	2 scames 1 legit
Mar 09 03:29:21 <midnightmagic>	I'm fairly sure that electricity won't be the lower bound of price for some time. The first time was market reaction to the bubble crash, and lots of doofuses predicting the death of bitcoin.
Mar 09 03:29:48 <midnightmagic>	and yet it.. never.. quite.. dipped below electricity costs.
Mar 09 03:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic i'd guess electricity will never be the bound. fixed costs amortisation will always be larger from now on
Mar 09 03:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	take a while for a 60gh asic to cost 1.x k usd in electricity.
Mar 09 03:30:34 <Bowjob>	heck, if this becomes profitable for me I'll rent a warehouse
Mar 09 03:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	by then probably better units need to be bought. and so...
Mar 09 03:30:36 <midnightmagic>	well growth is fairly significant right now
Mar 09 03:30:58 <Bowjob>	and avalon users will get credit for a trade in, yeah?
Mar 09 03:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is before a large portion of mining cost was hidden (as "free" expertise)
Mar 09 03:31:08 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: The amusing part is, people who do that simply can't compete with the long tail of people doing for "free" in their hobby time and getting the cheap tier of residential electrical costs. :)
Mar 09 03:31:19 <mircea_popescu>	since now all that is being paid for, people get a much better idea of their actual costs.
Mar 09 03:31:35 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: Avalon customers are getting credit for Icarus trade-in and .. the other one. Lancelot.
Mar 09 03:31:42 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 09 03:31:44 <Bowjob>	in the future
Mar 09 03:31:52 <Bowjob>	Trade in Avalon 1 for something else
Mar 09 03:32:04 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: There is no indication that will happen.
Mar 09 03:32:11 <midnightmagic>	FPGA have a use outside of bitcoin.
Mar 09 03:32:17 <midnightmagic>	Avalon 1? Not so much.
Mar 09 03:33:18 <Bowjob>	oh well.. decades from now, it will be a collector's item
Mar 09 03:33:20 <Bowjob>	heh
Mar 09 03:33:36 <midnightmagic>	"This thing made a whole bunch of money and then suddenly became completely useless!"
Mar 09 03:33:53 <Bowjob>	"It produced 7 BTC in its heyday"
Mar 09 03:33:54 <Bowjob>	Damn
Mar 09 03:34:02 <Bowjob>	7 BTC/Day
Mar 09 03:34:03 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 03:34:06 <midnightmagic>	"What is it?" "Don't know, every time we plug it in it keeps trying to connect to a weird IP address and port.."
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Mar 09 03:34:48 <midnightmagic>	I'll tell you one thing. I am *SO* looking forward to the near-future day when I can shut all my g-d miners right the hell off.
Mar 09 03:35:12 <Bowjob>	are you moving to LTC?
Mar 09 03:35:23 <Bowjob>	wait nvm
Mar 09 03:35:28 <midnightmagic>	I mean my GPU and FPGA. I've been itching to do some FPGA development for some time now.
Mar 09 03:35:58 <midnightmagic>	I don't even bother RMA'ing my GPU anymore. Total waste of time.
Mar 09 03:36:05 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 09 03:36:13 <mircea_popescu>	the first gpu miner...
Mar 09 03:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	o boy. what a bomb
Mar 09 03:36:49 <midnightmagic>	ArtForz was pretty badass..
Mar 09 03:37:05 *	midnightmagic is fanboy of Art.
Mar 09 03:38:25 <Bowjob>	Is it viable to live off of BTC
Mar 09 03:38:31 <Bowjob>	just by mining?
Mar 09 03:38:47 <Bowjob>	It seems a crazy idea to me.. that might just work
Mar 09 03:38:49 <Bowjob>	>_>
Mar 09 03:39:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i was told he has 60,000 btc locked in his offline never spend coins
Mar 09 03:40:04 <Chaang-Noi>	;;calc 60000x44.5
Mar 09 03:40:04 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
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Mar 09 03:45:07 <midnightmagic>	He reported having 60,000 bitcoind not in his never-spend, but in his "don't sell right now" 20% holdback from mining profits.
Mar 09 03:45:25 <midnightmagic>	He mined, and sold 80%, and kept 20%.
Mar 09 03:45:53 <midnightmagic>	;;calc 60000*45
Mar 09 03:45:54 <gribble>	2700000
Mar 09 03:46:17 <midnightmagic>	That was before he mined for another bunch of months and then started selling his designs to unknown third parties.
Mar 09 03:48:51 <midnightmagic>	mrb_ came in one time and started talking about something he'd heard existed: a preimage-like attack on the hashing algo which allowed a 2x speedup algorithmically, to any miner implementing it.
Mar 09 03:50:16 <midnightmagic>	it would be pretty awesome if that were real.
Mar 09 03:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	how would it be awesome
Mar 09 03:52:57 <midnightmagic>	it would be awesome because FPGA would kill asic then.
Mar 09 03:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	fpga needs a lot more than 2x to stay competitive.
Mar 09 03:56:09 <midnightmagic>	nah it doesn't. ;-)
Mar 09 04:06:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]
Mar 09 04:06:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Mar 09 04:08:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00549999 = 5.5 BTC [-]
Mar 09 04:08:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.0055 = 3.575 BTC [+]
Mar 09 04:08:55 <Chaang-Noi>	.9 go asicminer :)
Mar 09 04:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc asicminer-pt
Mar 09 04:09:08 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.65923 / 0.9 (449 shares, 296 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.65303 / 0.9 (1046 shares, 683.1 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.65303 / 0.9 (1046 shares, 683.1 BTC)
Mar 09 04:09:14 <BitHub>	.9 hey
Mar 09 04:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	still low volume.
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Mar 09 04:09:33 <BitHub>	i might cash out
Mar 09 04:09:39 <BitHub>	at 1
Mar 09 04:10:17 <Chaang-Noi>	i expect this weeks or next weeks dividend to be awesome, and thus make more demand
Mar 09 04:10:42 <BitHub>	whens teh next one due?
Mar 09 04:10:52 <zefir>	Goat, people seem to expect ASICMINER to continue paying 2 cents dividends per week for a year, which is a bit of too much confidence imho
Mar 09 04:11:42 <Chaang-Noi>	zefir i think they can hold on average 10% of the network for 2 years
Mar 09 04:12:07 <zefir>	if they could, 0.9 is fair. still speculative
Mar 09 04:12:14 <Chaang-Noi>	and honestly bfl is 1.5 months away at best i think, if we get to 12 th and then 60 th, we will be killing it:)
Mar 09 04:12:15 <BitHub>	crazy to pay those prices for asicminer
Mar 09 04:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	zefir well, finance is speculative.
Mar 09 04:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	bfl is never delivering anything.
Mar 09 04:12:52 <zefir>	not right, my BFLS are the most stable mining devices i had so far
Mar 09 04:12:59 <Chaang-Noi>	if bfl did fail on the chips it would be awesome for asicminer, we would have 50% not 10% of the network
Mar 09 04:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	zefir http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 09 04:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	just going by that
Mar 09 04:13:30 <BitHub>	is there going to be a new primeasic thing?
Mar 09 04:13:35 <BitHub>	i need to buy one hey
Mar 09 04:13:51 <zefir>	expect there to be more competitors than BFL in July
Mar 09 04:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi about one third asicminer, one third avalon, one third old network + others
Mar 09 04:13:57 <mircea_popescu>	is the best reasonable expectation.
Mar 09 04:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	zefir for sure.
Mar 09 04:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	the actual asic producer has not yet been born i would guess.
Mar 09 04:14:20 <BitHub>	i'm ready to buy now
Mar 09 04:14:23 <BitHub>	can i buy anything?
Mar 09 04:14:44 <Chaang-Noi>	even if bfl does ship, first batch is only 25 th right?   avalon is less?
Mar 09 04:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	avalon has about 10-20th being delivered atm and making another what, 20-50
Mar 09 04:15:11 <zefir>	0.9 is tempting for a quick buck i must say. but if bitcoin as a whole takes of (like is currently doing) long term, holding some asicminer could be your retirement ;)
Mar 09 04:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	asicminer has a 10ish being delivered and making another 20-50
Mar 09 04:15:22 <mircea_popescu>	they're really very equal.
Mar 09 04:15:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 0.9 = 18.9 BTC [+]
Mar 09 04:15:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah zefir, i bought back much of what i sold around .5 to .6
Mar 09 04:15:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.975 = 19.5 BTC [+]
Mar 09 04:16:01 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 09 04:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol what a strategy
Mar 09 04:16:07 <zefir>	Goat, you're in the board again?
Mar 09 04:16:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1 = 25 BTC [+]
Mar 09 04:16:19 <zefir>	this is insane!
Mar 09 04:16:22 <Chaang-Noi>	zefir saldy im still short
Mar 09 04:16:39 <BitHub>	wow
Mar 09 04:16:51 <zefir>	i have the remaining shares for you. 1BTC each ;)
Mar 09 04:16:56 <BitHub>	anyone want to buy 50 for 2btc?
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Mar 09 04:17:36 <Chaang-Noi>	zefir that was my shares that just got sold at 1 btc
Mar 09 04:17:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.0057 = 2.85 BTC [+]
Mar 09 04:17:54 <zefir>	;) congrats!
Mar 09 04:18:05 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks
Mar 09 04:18:19 <Chaang-Noi>	i think we could go higher, but i can part with 25 :)
Mar 09 04:18:23 <BitHub>	let me know when it gets to 1.5 or 2 - i'm out then.
Mar 09 04:18:49 <zefir>	Goat, how much coins do i need in hand to retire in Thailand?
Mar 09 04:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.21735385 = 217.3539 BTC [-]
Mar 09 04:19:13 <Bowjob>	we're about to ram $45 per coin
Mar 09 04:19:15 <BitHub>	1000bat
Mar 09 04:19:26 <Chaang-Noi>	zefir i have a wife and a kid, very nice house, and everything, i live very well here on $15,000 a year
Mar 09 04:19:38 <BitHub>	nice
Mar 09 04:19:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.19526866 = 195.2687 BTC [-]
Mar 09 04:20:00 <Chaang-Noi>	if you did $30k a year you would really live it up
Mar 09 04:20:02 <Bowjob>	$15,000.. thats what I earned 2 years ago as a cashier
Mar 09 04:20:07 <Bowjob>	in 6 months btw
Mar 09 04:20:08 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 04:20:13 <Bowjob>	k, 7 actually
Mar 09 04:20:17 <Chaang-Noi>	pay is lower here
Mar 09 04:20:19 <zefir>	ok, so like 10k coins and i'm done. that is 1.5BTC per ASICMINER and you see me there ;)
Mar 09 04:20:28 <Chaang-Noi>	average wage here is $200 a month
Mar 09 04:20:34 <BitHub>	nice zefir
Mar 09 04:20:36 <Bowjob>	so around 4 bitcoins then
Mar 09 04:20:39 <BitHub>	i might do the same and go to phils
Mar 09 04:20:52 <Bowjob>	200 bucks a month
Mar 09 04:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	i've done it already. retirement is boring as shit.
Mar 09 04:21:01 <Bowjob>	thats what i spend on a nice meal in vancouver
Mar 09 04:21:08 <Chaang-Noi>	costs are lower here
Mar 09 04:21:17 <BitHub>	whatever mircea lul
Mar 09 04:21:22 <Bowjob>	woudlnt it be grand if i make money here
Mar 09 04:21:22 <mircea_popescu>	srsly.
Mar 09 04:21:24 <zefir>	this is too easy, there must be some hook in there
Mar 09 04:21:26 <Chaang-Noi>	my 3 bed room house with garden and all that is only $160 a month rent
Mar 09 04:21:27 <Bowjob>	then spend it in some 3rd world country
Mar 09 04:21:28 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 04:21:34 <BitHub>	ya
Mar 09 04:21:35 <Bowjob>	why dont u just buy it
Mar 09 04:21:39 <BitHub>	that's what i would do if i was bored
Mar 09 04:21:41 <BitHub>	help others
Mar 09 04:22:08 <mircea_popescu>	i am.
Mar 09 04:22:20 <BitHub>	then you cant get that bored
Mar 09 04:22:20 <Chaang-Noi>	zefir hook?
Mar 09 04:22:21 <BitHub>	:)
Mar 09 04:22:30 <mircea_popescu>	well atm im not bored, all with mpex and shit.
Mar 09 04:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	but a few years ago it was major yawn time.
Mar 09 04:22:52 <BitHub>	you just dont know how to have fun with your money
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Mar 09 04:22:57 <toffoo>	how did you retire the first time?
Mar 09 04:23:02 <zefir>	Goat, it can't be that easy. but well, my problem is my wife will not follow to Thailand, so i'm out for now :(
Mar 09 04:23:15 <BitHub>	you can get about 10 wives in thailand
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Mar 09 04:23:17 <BitHub>	her lost
Mar 09 04:23:28 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh zefir i got a thai wife, thats the smart way to do it:)
Mar 09 04:23:39 <zefir>	maybe, but not the one wife you get used to ;)
Mar 09 04:23:47 <BitHub>	doesn't that get boring?
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Mar 09 04:23:57 <BitHub>	like watching the same movie over and over and over again every day?
Mar 09 04:23:59 <zefir>	you mean the only one wife?
Mar 09 04:24:07 <Chaang-Noi>	bithub is right, you can have more than one here, in thai they even have words for ranking them
Mar 09 04:24:24 <BitHub>	chaaang i'm thinking
Mar 09 04:24:31 <BitHub>	if i send you some btc
Mar 09 04:24:35 <zefir>	no, can't complain. it is a give and take - she also has to watch the same tv show
Mar 09 04:24:42 <BitHub>	can you jsut buy thai women for me and put them all in a house?
Mar 09 04:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo what do you mean how ?
Mar 09 04:24:49 <BitHub>	i want a stable
Mar 09 04:25:09 <toffoo>	well i imagine you'll retire a second time from mpex someday soon,
Mar 09 04:25:14 <BitHub>	highly unethical
Mar 09 04:25:15 <BitHub>	hehe
Mar 09 04:25:19 <Chaang-Noi>	in thailand you can only rent thai women, however you can buy women from outher countries
Mar 09 04:25:20 <mircea_popescu>	zefir BitHub i guess there's about 20 years keeping you apart.
Mar 09 04:25:32 <toffoo>	just curious how you did it the first time .. before bitcoin
Mar 09 04:25:33 <zefir>	i'm 40
Mar 09 04:25:34 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo i don't think it'll be too soon.
Mar 09 04:25:43 <BitHub>	how old are you mate? :)
Mar 09 04:25:49 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo i sold everythign and went to costa rica, basically.
Mar 09 04:25:59 <toffoo>	but went back?
Mar 09 04:26:03 <BitHub>	heh i heard that's the best place to setup a company
Mar 09 04:26:03 <toffoo>	too boring there?
Mar 09 04:26:12 <BitHub>	is that why you went to costa?
Mar 09 04:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	well eventually you have enough of playing poker with aging american expats
Mar 09 04:26:32 <BitHub>	tax breaks
Mar 09 04:26:35 <mircea_popescu>	the rum was good, the aguacate nice, the mango fantastic an so on
Mar 09 04:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	but after a while retirement becomes unbearable.
Mar 09 04:26:59 <toffoo>	missing the good life back in romania?
Mar 09 04:27:18 <BitHub>	because you cant cash out a million dollars worth of btc?
Mar 09 04:27:33 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo hehe, romania of the 90s was... exciting.
Mar 09 04:27:46 <BitHub>	i don't get it mircea
Mar 09 04:27:53 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub what's that ?
Mar 09 04:28:06 <BitHub>	how you can be bored
Mar 09 04:28:11 <BitHub>	i'm bored but i'm poor
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Mar 09 04:28:31 <mircea_popescu>	cause how bored you are depends on what you're doing not on how rich you are.
Mar 09 04:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	heck, i know plenty of bored rich people.
Mar 09 04:28:43 <BitHub>	its all about the numbers baby
Mar 09 04:28:55 <BitHub>	if you're rich and bored you don't deserve to have money
Mar 09 04:29:05 <mircea_popescu>	what'd you do ?
Mar 09 04:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	there's only so much flan a person can eat, to quote one of the recent billionaires.
Mar 09 04:29:22 <BitHub>	stayed poor
Mar 09 04:29:29 <BitHub>	haha
Mar 09 04:29:40 <BitHub>	flange
Mar 09 04:30:34 <BitHub>	hmm what would i do
Mar 09 04:30:54 <BitHub>	well first step i would look at all the people in my life, family and really close friends and solve all their money problems
Mar 09 04:30:57 <BitHub>	that's fun
Mar 09 04:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	that's stupid.
Mar 09 04:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	within a coupla years they'll have worse money problems.
Mar 09 04:31:43 <BitHub>	but i solved them
Mar 09 04:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	there's a reason they have them now, and that reason ain't the aliens.
Mar 09 04:31:59 <BitHub>	nah they wont they
Mar 09 04:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	you can't solve people's problems for them.
Mar 09 04:32:03 <BitHub>	'll be sweet
Mar 09 04:32:24 <BitHub>	that's true, good thing i've got no friends so i would just help my family
Mar 09 04:33:18 <mircea_popescu>	mkay, so that's murky. what else ?
Mar 09 04:33:23 <BitHub>	i'm pretty sure i would be dead within a month, i would just go to psycho with the money
Mar 09 04:33:37 <BitHub>	driving pass people throwing wads of cash at them
Mar 09 04:33:45 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, that's the thing. takes a lot of brains to be rich and bored in the end.
Mar 09 04:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	most dumbasses that win the lottery end up dead / in jail / poor again
Mar 09 04:34:13 <BitHub>	i guess its boring when you're not just burning through it without caring
Mar 09 04:34:15 <BitHub>	that's when its really fun
Mar 09 04:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	no, that's when it's really obvious how empty/pointless/mindless you really are.
Mar 09 04:35:43 <BitHub>	not really, sometimes just dont care
Mar 09 04:37:07 <BitHub>	um what else, probably hire 100 social media trolls and have them in a office and just kick back and watch them troll certain celebs or public figures
Mar 09 04:38:45 <BitHub>	actually mircea i would just be making movies
Mar 09 04:38:47 <BitHub>	full time
Mar 09 04:38:59 <BitHub>	that would be really fun to me
Mar 09 04:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	that may work yea
Mar 09 04:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	but it is not retirement.
Mar 09 04:40:34 <BitHub>	ahh okey hmm retirement lets see, all you can do is just travel the world hey getting into adventures, meeting random girls
Mar 09 04:41:04 <BitHub>	definitly got to check out alot more countries in my time :)
Mar 09 04:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, tghat may be fun
Mar 09 04:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	but after a while it gets utterly boring.
Mar 09 04:43:10 <BitHub>	how old are you, if you dont mind me asking?
Mar 09 04:43:11 <Bowjob>	mentlegen, we hit $45 once again
Mar 09 04:43:41 <Bowjob>	now where is that troll who said btc top was $24 dollars
Mar 09 04:43:42 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 04:43:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 09 04:43:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.29000, Best ask: 45.46212, Bid-ask spread: 0.17212, Last trade: 45.46212, 24 hour volume: 42365.65870584, 24 hour low: 42.50000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.84294
Mar 09 04:43:55 <BitHub>	nice i want to see 50 after weekend tho
Mar 09 04:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	funny, calls sold earlier lol
Mar 09 04:44:50 *	nonick is now known as darkee
Mar 09 04:45:14 <Bowjob>	i just a fucking house in vancouver
Mar 09 04:45:15 <Bowjob>	geez
Mar 09 04:45:29 <Bowjob>	i thought that was the whole point of life in vancouver. be the landowner master race
Mar 09 04:45:43 <Bowjob>	so that you can charge rent on the basement, get the basement to pay for the mortgage
Mar 09 04:45:51 <Bowjob>	then watch hockey
Mar 09 04:45:53 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 04:45:58 <Bowjob>	thats the canadian dream
Mar 09 04:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 09 04:46:03 <Bowjob>	or vancouver dream.
Mar 09 04:46:12 <Bowjob>	everyone here is crazy about houses
Mar 09 04:46:29 <Bowjob>	my uncle owns 3, he gets about 8k a month on his houses
Mar 09 04:46:32 <Bowjob>	for rent
Mar 09 04:46:45 <Bowjob>	i didnt tell him about bitcoins.. hes too rich already
Mar 09 04:46:46 <Bowjob>	heh
Mar 09 04:48:12 <Anduck>	you should
Mar 09 04:48:21 <Anduck>	(make him buy like, 200k usd worth of btc?"
Mar 09 04:48:25 <Anduck>	xD
Mar 09 04:48:29 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 04:48:36 <Anduck>	then slowwly sell it back and make negative profit
Mar 09 04:48:50 <Bowjob>	nah, hes a batshit religious person.. conservative
Mar 09 04:48:53 <Bowjob>	he wont touch btc anyway
Mar 09 04:49:11 <Anduck>	ok
Mar 09 04:49:13 <Bowjob>	i feel bad for his kid
Mar 09 04:49:18 <Anduck>	well
Mar 09 04:49:21 <Bowjob>	his kid is like 18 now, cant go out
Mar 09 04:49:29 <Anduck>	what does that have to do with bitcoin?
Mar 09 04:49:35 <Anduck>	if he's religious batshit person
Mar 09 04:49:42 <Anduck>	he might still like btc xD
Mar 09 04:49:47 <Anduck>	batshit is a nice term, +1
Mar 09 04:49:47 <Bowjob>	i doubt it lol
Mar 09 04:49:56 <Anduck>	hmm
Mar 09 04:50:01 <Anduck>	well tell his kid about it
Mar 09 04:50:03 <Anduck>	and shake his hed
Mar 09 04:50:04 <Bowjob>	when we arrived in canada
Mar 09 04:50:05 <Anduck>	head*
Mar 09 04:50:11 <Bowjob>	.. he gave us free rent
Mar 09 04:50:16 <Bowjob>	.. but..
Mar 09 04:50:25 <Bowjob>	when we told him, we're not converting to your religion
Mar 09 04:50:31 <Bowjob>	he started charging us rent
Mar 09 04:50:31 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 04:50:42 <Anduck>	=)
Mar 09 04:50:45 <Anduck>	whatta douche
Mar 09 04:50:46 <Bowjob>	im like. lol
Mar 09 04:50:51 <Anduck>	you know what
Mar 09 04:50:54 <Anduck>	i would've laugh at him
Mar 09 04:50:55 <Anduck>	:D
Mar 09 04:51:07 <Bowjob>	its not really him tho
Mar 09 04:51:08 <Bowjob>	its his wife
Mar 09 04:51:13 <Bowjob>	thats the boss
Mar 09 04:51:17 <Anduck>	whats his religion btc
Mar 09 04:51:18 <Anduck>	btw*
Mar 09 04:51:19 <Anduck>	?
Mar 09 04:51:25 <Bowjob>	protestant or something
Mar 09 04:51:27 <Anduck>	wut
Mar 09 04:51:33 <Bowjob>	thinks everyone will go to hell
Mar 09 04:51:56 <Bowjob>	protestant.. its like a branch of christianity
Mar 09 04:52:25 <Bowjob>	kinda like how catholic is bitcoin, then a protestant would be a fork of it
Mar 09 04:52:29 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 04:52:40 <Anduck>	good it wasnt this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology
Mar 09 04:52:52 <Anduck>	yeah
Mar 09 04:52:54 <Bowjob>	nah. hes not that batshit
Mar 09 04:52:58 <Anduck>	:D
Mar 09 04:53:10 <Anduck>	in finland there's 2 places where they recruit for that thing
Mar 09 04:53:16 <Anduck>	so, me and my friend once went there
Mar 09 04:53:19 <Bowjob>	theres one in vancouver too
Mar 09 04:53:26 <Bowjob>	not going in there. lol
Mar 09 04:53:29 <Anduck>	made some kind of test
Mar 09 04:53:39 <Anduck>	then they wanted us to be in separate rooms
Mar 09 04:53:51 <Anduck>	so they could turn ur individually to the scientology
Mar 09 04:53:59 <Anduck>	well, we ain't stupid so.. xD
Mar 09 04:54:11 <Bowjob>	they killed this chick
Mar 09 04:54:13 <Anduck>	didnt take much time to see they're scientologists
Mar 09 04:54:14 <Bowjob>	i forgot her name
Mar 09 04:54:16 <Bowjob>	lisa or something..
Mar 09 04:54:18 <Bowjob>	in 1996
Mar 09 04:54:23 <Bowjob>	lisa mcpherson
Mar 09 04:54:24 <Bowjob>	there we go
Mar 09 04:54:25 <Anduck>	why
Mar 09 04:54:30 <Bowjob>	starved her to death
Mar 09 04:54:34 <Anduck>	ok
Mar 09 04:54:36 <Anduck>	hmm
Mar 09 04:54:43 <Bowjob>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Lisa_McPherson
Mar 09 04:54:51 <Bowjob>	okay, 1995. im off
Mar 09 04:54:56 <Anduck>	btw, we went to that scientology recruiment place cuz we were handed a note in the city
Mar 09 04:58:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.00999 = 0.999 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 05:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	ehh what's this, ian bakewell default ?
Mar 09 05:04:19 <Bowjob>	Mhm.. he disappeared
Mar 09 05:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Mar 09 05:04:37 <Bowjob>	Damn, and to think I thought I was gonna send him some BTC
Mar 09 05:04:42 <Bowjob>	I cleared a land mine. heh
Mar 09 05:05:01 <Bowjob>	He said he should have no problem paying unless BTC hits $40/BTC
Mar 09 05:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok.
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Mar 09 05:07:39 <Bowjob>	"Short BTC600 @ $34.50 Short 40,000 S.DICE @ .0062  Cover date: May 17 2013 | Before 12Noon MST"
Mar 09 05:07:45 <Bowjob>	According to Ian's signature
Mar 09 05:07:51 <Bowjob>	he's gonna have a bad time
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Mar 09 05:08:57 <Bowjob>	"I should have no problem repaying this as long as BTC stays bellow $41.66 ... if it goes above we would need to work something out for a bit more time to repay."
Mar 09 05:09:02 <Bowjob>	Tsk tsk tsk
Mar 09 05:09:20 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 09 05:09:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.86278, Best ask: 45.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03722, Last trade: 45.90000, 24 hour volume: 45521.41888267, 24 hour low: 42.50000, 24 hour high: 45.90000, 24 hour vwap: 43.97923
Mar 09 05:09:30 <Bowjob>	I lent some $100 worth of BTC back in january for 3 weeks
Mar 09 05:09:35 <Bowjob>	that was some agonizing days
Mar 09 05:09:43 <Bowjob>	I didn't know if the guy was a scammer or not
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Mar 09 05:09:53 <Bowjob>	.. i am not willing to put myself through that again
Mar 09 05:09:56 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 05:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.90144085 = 901.4409 BTC [-]
Mar 09 05:11:45 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 09 05:12:16 <Bowjob>	lending out to someone with btc is similar to gambling imo
Mar 09 05:12:25 <Bowjob>	just put it thru dice, at least its faster
Mar 09 05:12:26 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 09 05:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	with dice it's provably fair.
Mar 09 05:16:24 <Bowjob>	I told an acquiantance about BTC when they were 17 dollars, they were on the fence about it. They wanted to buy at 28 dollars, but got scared when the price dropped to $20
Mar 09 05:16:38 <Bowjob>	now that its $45.. they want to buy again
Mar 09 05:16:49 <Bowjob>	but never follow through
Mar 09 05:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	how it works.
Mar 09 05:17:38 <Bowjob>	I told him hey, I think BTC will go up. I've put a bit of fiat in it to show my conviction
Mar 09 05:18:14 <Bowjob>	if BTC goes up, they say.. it's a fucking bubble! if BTC goes down.. "It's dying/fad/crash"
Mar 09 05:18:22 <Bowjob>	hilarious
Mar 09 05:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Mar 09 05:19:17 <Bowjob>	I told him I'll sell him $100 worth for 2 BTC. They wanted 5. They could have gotten 5+ from me back in Jan
Mar 09 05:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	it recovered nicely after the correction 2 days ago
Mar 09 05:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	indeed a bear trap
Mar 09 05:19:57 <Bowjob>	I'm looking forward to the day that that guy still hasn't bought a coin where BTC reaches $1000
Mar 09 05:20:26 <Bowjob>	I'll be like, yeah I'll sell you $500 worth for 0.5 BTC, just remember it could go down, ect
Mar 09 05:20:28 <Bowjob>	gonna be fun.
Mar 09 05:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	haha that's a plan.
Mar 09 05:21:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.90009169 = 900.0917 BTC [-]
Mar 09 05:22:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell namworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87358.60
Mar 09 05:22:17 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 09 05:25:06 <Bowjob>	it sucked for me canadianbitcoins sold at $55 dollars when BTC dropped to $33
Mar 09 05:25:11 <Bowjob>	pretty smart move
Mar 09 05:25:24 <Bowjob>	I would have dumped more fiat into it
Mar 09 05:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 375 @ 0.89918038 = 337.1926 BTC [-]
Mar 09 05:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m 750
Mar 09 05:31:48 <assbot>	I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
Mar 09 05:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.P750
Mar 09 05:31:55 <assbot>	The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy.
Mar 09 05:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m P750t
Mar 09 05:32:07 <assbot>	Your actions are useless.
Mar 09 05:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	:(
Mar 09 05:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.P750T
Mar 09 05:32:15 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.89918038 / 0.90051586 / 0.90144085 (2375 shares, 2,138.73 BTC), 7D: 0.85433966 / 0.9786482 / 1.12260046 (23750 shares, 23,242.89 BTC), 30D: 0.85433966 / 1.06533167 / 1.53153505 (28750 shares, 30,628.29 BTC)
Mar 09 05:32:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol this put
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Mar 09 05:43:16 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 46
Mar 09 05:43:21 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 46.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
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Mar 09 05:43:33 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 09 05:43:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.50000, Best ask: 46.53000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 46.53000, 24 hour volume: 47202.58375913, 24 hour low: 42.50000, 24 hour high: 46.53000, 24 hour vwap: 44.11301
Mar 09 05:43:42 <Chaang-Noi>	well shit
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Mar 09 05:43:57 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 49.1
Mar 09 05:43:57 <gribble>	There are currently 26201.882 bitcoins offered at or under 49.1 USD, worth 1266194.78506 USD in total. | Data vintage: 36.3364 seconds
Mar 09 05:44:18 <Bowjob>	chang
Mar 09 05:44:26 <Bowjob>	check the price real time at coinlab
Mar 09 05:44:29 <Bowjob>	its entertaining
Mar 09 05:44:30 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 05:45:19 <Chaang-Noi>	interesting, auto refreshes?
Mar 09 05:45:34 <Chaang-Noi>	guess so damn
Mar 09 05:46:00 <Bowjob>	yah
Mar 09 05:46:03 <Bowjob>	you watching?
Mar 09 05:46:11 <Bowjob>	46.80
Mar 09 05:46:16 <Bowjob>	im okay with this
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Mar 09 05:46:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess we are going to keep on trucking up
Mar 09 05:46:59 <Bowjob>	imo just drive the price up and dont sell
Mar 09 05:47:04 <Bowjob>	use BTC for transactions
Mar 09 05:47:14 <Bowjob>	.. that ends up being win win
Mar 09 05:47:18 <Bowjob>	as opposed to lose lose
Mar 09 05:47:29 <Bowjob>	where the seller gets fiat and the BTC value goes down
Mar 09 05:47:52 <Bowjob>	we're about to break 47
Mar 09 05:48:32 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 09 05:48:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.64600, Best ask: 46.74600, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 46.64600, 24 hour volume: 48033.54388684, 24 hour low: 42.50000, 24 hour high: 46.99000, 24 hour vwap: 44.16232
Mar 09 05:48:41 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 47
Mar 09 05:48:46 <gribble>	There are currently 1303.7427 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 61254.5594943 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
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Mar 09 05:56:44 <Bowjob>	mhm, i see lots of resistance before 50
Mar 09 05:56:49 <Bowjob>	i see little fiat
Mar 09 05:56:56 <Bowjob>	we need moe support
Mar 09 06:01:09 <Bowjob>	sell off
Mar 09 06:01:09 <Bowjob>	hah
Mar 09 06:08:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2201 BTC [-]
Mar 09 06:08:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.22003 BTC [-]
Mar 09 06:08:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-]
Mar 09 06:08:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.22 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Mar 09 06:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	it's the weekend
Mar 09 06:15:17 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah $45 is still pretty epic
Mar 09 06:17:46 <Bowjob>	"still"?
Mar 09 06:18:02 <Bowjob>	Id stay breaking $32 barrier was epic!
Mar 09 06:18:57 <Anduck>	btw..
Mar 09 06:19:08 <Anduck>	it's funny mp has rated gigavps -10 and pirateat40 -1
Mar 09 06:20:08 <Anduck>	so huh, whats worse, running a ponzi or pt to ponzi?
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Mar 09 06:24:35 <Bowjob>	and the dump continues
Mar 09 06:24:38 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 09 06:24:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.27000, Best ask: 45.28000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 45.26000, 24 hour volume: 49103.52015343, 24 hour low: 42.50000, 24 hour high: 46.99000, 24 hour vwap: 44.22567
Mar 09 06:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck i rated pirate before his scam went bust
Mar 09 06:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	and then didn't want to update the rating out of vanity
Mar 09 06:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	i like being the first one with the neg.
Mar 09 06:25:07 <Anduck>	k
Mar 09 06:30:43 <Bowjob>	coinlab should update their logo with the recent correction
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Mar 09 06:59:12 <Bowjob>	"Whoever bet that is a fool.. I suspect it's Mircea Popescu... good luck winning your bet against when you lose, though.  I'm sure he'll force close the bet and negate all bets after we ship so he doesn't lose the 250 BTC."
Mar 09 06:59:23 <Bowjob>	BFL_Josh back in Jan
Mar 09 06:59:24 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 09 07:11:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00901 BTC [+]
Mar 09 07:13:48 <ZedsterX>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/03/08/first-bitcoin-hedge-fund-launches-from-malta/
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Mar 09 07:53:47 <topace_>	!help
Mar 09 07:53:48 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 07:53:49 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 07:53:50 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
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Mar 09 07:54:34 <topace_>	is there a url for mpex that works now?
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Mar 09 08:22:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0057 = 0.114 BTC [-]
Mar 09 08:23:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.0057 = 0.114 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 08:58:39 <ZedsterX>	sure is quiet in here
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Mar 09 09:11:23 <fydel>	hej! oh no....mpex down? again?
Mar 09 09:11:51 <FabianB_>	fydel: you can trade via irc now
Mar 09 09:11:59 <FabianB_>	!help
Mar 09 09:11:59 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 09:12:00 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 09:12:01 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 09:12:10 <B0g4r7>	What's with all this?  gox was down, btc-e, bitinstant, and now mpex.
Mar 09 09:12:10 <Namworld>	I am not aware of MPEx ever coming back online...
Mar 09 09:12:37 <Namworld>	DDoS for MPEx
Mar 09 09:12:43 <Namworld>	possibly the same for others
Mar 09 09:12:49 <B0g4r7>	lame
Mar 09 09:13:24 <B0g4r7>	also ghey
Mar 09 09:13:25 <fydel>	hmmm...ok...thanks for the info
Mar 09 09:13:28 <Namworld>	Quite the massive attack...
Mar 09 09:13:52 <Namworld>	Someone important must want to hurt Bitcoins
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Mar 09 09:14:16 <B0g4r7>	goldman
Mar 09 09:14:17 <Namworld>	And by important, I mean self-appointed importance
Mar 09 09:14:19 <ZedsterX>	children
Mar 09 09:18:17 <ThickAsThieves>	someone important might also be trying to slow bitcoin down
Mar 09 09:18:36 <ThickAsThieves>	not necessarily to hurt it, but gain from it
Mar 09 09:19:03 <ThickAsThieves>	important is the wrong word
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Mar 09 09:20:19 <smickles>	;;later tell 06:20 < mircea_popescu> $help < I think you want $list which will lead to $list supympex
Mar 09 09:20:20 <gribble>	Error: That is an invalid IRC nick. Please check your input.
Mar 09 09:22:24 <Namworld>	What would that person gain from that?
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Mar 09 09:26:42 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 09 09:26:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00550022 / 0.005884 (1651 shares, 9.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00550795 / 0.0063777 (518030 shares, 2,853.29 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616229 / 0.0069 (3768951 shares, 23,225.38 BTC)
Mar 09 09:32:47 <ThickAsThieves>	they could gain by stalling the value of bitcoin
Mar 09 09:32:54 <ThickAsThieves>	to buy more
Mar 09 09:33:23 <ThickAsThieves>	same as any assets
Mar 09 09:34:10 <ThickAsThieves>	the attacks influence the liquidity
Mar 09 09:34:31 <ThickAsThieves>	also,
Mar 09 09:34:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not saying i believe either way,
Mar 09 09:34:51 <ThickAsThieves>	but what do they gain on the flipside then?
Mar 09 09:35:10 <ThickAsThieves>	by "hurting" mpex, blockchain, etc
Mar 09 09:35:15 <ThickAsThieves>	why bother?
Mar 09 09:36:33 <kakobrekla>	wow
Mar 09 09:36:39 <kakobrekla>	someone just put 60 down on Yes
Mar 09 09:36:40 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 09 09:37:00 <kakobrekla>	inside info? :)
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Mar 09 09:40:25 <Namworld>	Well for stalling, it's stalling. Activity is down to a crawl.
Mar 09 09:40:41 <Namworld>	But price is not stalling at all.
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Mar 09 09:42:44 <vampireb>	why this address marked as mpex? https://blockchain.info/address/1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
Mar 09 09:42:52 <vampireb>	that's the address that made the 60btc bet
Mar 09 09:45:46 <kakobrekla>	aha
Mar 09 09:45:53 <kakobrekla>	twas mircea then i guess
Mar 09 09:45:58 <Namworld>	Because apparently, mircea must have made the bet
Mar 09 09:46:07 <kakobrekla>	yea
Mar 09 09:48:40 <vampireb>	that would be a conflict of interest? i wonder what is defined by majority.
Mar 09 09:48:47 <vampireb>	51%?
Mar 09 09:49:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01101 BTC [+]
Mar 09 09:50:17 <kakobrekla>	why?
Mar 09 09:51:48 <vampireb>	because bitbet is ran by mircea? no? so he can decide in his favor in a not very clear case
Mar 09 09:54:07 <kakobrekla>	he doesnt decide what the outcome is
Mar 09 09:54:26 <vampireb>	who does?
Mar 09 09:54:32 <kakobrekla>	mods
Mar 09 09:55:02 <vampireb>	mods?
Mar 09 09:55:18 <kakobrekla>	moderators
Mar 09 09:55:26 <vampireb>	mods of what
Mar 09 09:55:33 <kakobrekla>	bitbet
Mar 09 09:55:46 <vampireb>	http://bitbet.us/
Mar 09 09:55:53 <vampireb>	try to search for them
Mar 09 09:55:54 <vampireb>	nada
Mar 09 09:56:02 <kakobrekla>	search for who
Mar 09 09:56:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.005637 = 0.0113 BTC [-]
Mar 09 09:56:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00564 BTC [+]
Mar 09 09:56:12 <vampireb>	who are the mods?
Mar 09 09:56:19 <vampireb>	mircea and himself?
Mar 09 09:56:45 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 09 09:56:56 <kakobrekla>	peoeple manage the bets
Mar 09 09:57:04 <kakobrekla>	people that *
Mar 09 09:57:52 <vampireb>	well not the ones who create them, so since they arent listed. I'd assume its just mircea
Mar 09 09:58:02 <kakobrekla>	you assume wrong
Mar 09 09:58:24 <vampireb>	so who are the mods?
Mar 09 09:58:34 <kakobrekla>	people who resolve the bets
Mar 09 09:58:44 <vampireb>	if you cannot answer that question
Mar 09 09:58:49 <kakobrekla>	do you want their phone number or what?
Mar 09 09:58:52 <vampireb>	names?
Mar 09 09:59:00 <vampireb>	forum names
Mar 09 09:59:07 <kakobrekla>	they are not on the forums
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Mar 09 10:06:56 <smickles>	I'm one :D
Mar 09 10:07:04 <smickles>	-_- not really
Mar 09 10:07:07 <vampireb>	grrr
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Mar 09 10:07:42 <vampireb>	i will take the otc-identity of the moderators.
Mar 09 10:07:45 <smickles>	vampireb: i vaguely recall it being kakobrekla at first, but they might have employees now
Mar 09 10:08:02 <kakobrekla>	accually i never resolved any bets
Mar 09 10:08:18 <vampireb>	so it's mircea and his alter egos
Mar 09 10:09:18 <smickles>	kakobrekla: How come you don't answer this? or give just one example. (other party willing ofc)
Mar 09 10:09:36 <kakobrekla>	one example of ?
Mar 09 10:09:44 <kakobrekla>	theres plenty of talk about that on trilema
Mar 09 10:09:45 <smickles>	who resolves the bets
Mar 09 10:09:48 <kakobrekla>	just its down now
Mar 09 10:10:28 <kakobrekla>	i think the reference can be found here
Mar 09 10:10:30 <kakobrekla>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-events-of-failday/
Mar 09 10:10:33 <kakobrekla>	when its back.
Mar 09 10:10:53 <vampireb>	ok. thx.
Mar 09 10:11:10 <kakobrekla>	np
Mar 09 10:11:28 <vampireb>	mpex should set up as a tor service
Mar 09 10:11:40 <smickles>	well, darn. not caught by the wayback machine
Mar 09 10:12:00 <vampireb>	he probably has robots.txt preventing indexing
Mar 09 10:12:03 <kakobrekla>	i can see the trilema frontpage with knowing the real ip
Mar 09 10:12:08 <smickles>	nope, others were caught
Mar 09 10:12:09 <kakobrekla>	but i cant navigate articles
Mar 09 10:12:12 <kakobrekla>	or else id pastebin it
Mar 09 10:12:27 <vampireb>	well he could do cloudflare
Mar 09 10:13:33 <vampireb>	VPS are cheap he can get a bunch of 128MB instances and reverse proxy to this real site
Mar 09 10:14:13 <kakobrekla>	that is kinda what the setup was now
Mar 09 10:14:23 <kakobrekla>	and they took all the instances down
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Mar 09 10:44:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 09 10:44:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.25000, Best ask: 45.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 45.35000, 24 hour volume: 48546.53739714, 24 hour low: 43.03000, 24 hour high: 46.99000, 24 hour vwap: 44.50309
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Mar 09 10:48:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 09 10:48:38 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4749725.03979 based on data since last change | 4795224.63048 based on data for last three days
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Mar 09 10:48:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Mar 09 10:49:02 <gribble>	Time since last block: 12 minutes and 21 seconds
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Mar 09 10:55:15 <Chilca>	still mpex page down?
Mar 09 10:55:28 <Chilca>	or http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 09 10:56:08 <pigeons>	!help
Mar 09 10:56:09 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 10:56:10 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 10:56:11 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
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Mar 09 10:57:34 <Chilca>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 09 10:57:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00550022 / 0.005884 (1651 shares, 9.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00548202 / 0.006225 (503030 shares, 2,757.62 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616244 / 0.0069 (3765951 shares, 23,207.45 BTC)
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Mar 09 11:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.567 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 11:35:40 <ineededausername>	anyone want to sell any ASICMINER shares?
Mar 09 11:36:04 <BitHub>	i'm thinking about it
Mar 09 11:36:11 <ineededausername>	I'm paying .58 for up to 190 shares
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Mar 09 11:36:31 <BitHub>	i'm selling at 1.5 2btc each
Mar 09 11:36:38 <ineededausername>	lol
Mar 09 11:36:57 <ineededausername>	yeah, I think everyone is
Mar 09 11:37:48 <BitHub>	!ticker mpex asicminer
Mar 09 11:37:50 <assbot>	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Mar 09 11:38:26 <ineededausername>	it's not on mpex
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Mar 09 11:40:13 <BitHub>	rightio
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Mar 09 11:54:11 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151081.0
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Mar 09 11:56:59 <Ukto>	hey ineededausername :)
Mar 09 11:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.63 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 11:59:31 <ineededausername>	hi ukto!
Mar 09 12:00:21 <Ukto>	dont see you on skype hehe
Mar 09 12:00:27 <ineededausername>	I'm there now
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Mar 09 12:28:04 <jMyles>	Hello everyone.  This is my first time in this channel.  I think I'm interested in investing; I want to learn more.
Mar 09 12:28:21 <kakobrekla>	heya
Mar 09 12:28:58 <jMyles>	Hi.  :-)
Mar 09 12:29:00 <ZedsterX>	you picked a quiet day.....lucky for you
Mar 09 12:29:14 <jMyles>	I just signed up for bitfunder - I had no idea there were so many assets.
Mar 09 12:29:21 <kakobrekla>	might be a quiet day, but at least its the right place
Mar 09 12:31:04 <jMyles>	A few days ago (like everybody else?), I thought I wanted to get my hands on an ASIC miner.  I mean, I still do, but I'm accepting that it's not a reality right now.
Mar 09 12:31:20 <jMyles>	However, if somebody is paying dividends on ASIC mining, that seems reasonable, right?
Mar 09 12:31:32 <kakobrekla>	the prime miner? :)
Mar 09 12:31:55 <Thinker_>	I put in an order for a Butterfly Labs 30GH/s miner over two months ago, and haven't received it yet.
Mar 09 12:32:04 <kakobrekla>	ya no shit.
Mar 09 12:32:05 <Diablo-D3>	you probably never will receive it
Mar 09 12:32:22 <Thinker_>	that is what i figured.  they need to refund my money then
Mar 09 12:32:29 <ZedsterX>	all you BFL ppl will happy you waited I think
Mar 09 12:32:58 <kakobrekla>	first few prolly
Mar 09 12:33:06 <Diablo-D3>	ZedsterX: I doubt it
Mar 09 12:33:19 <Diablo-D3>	Thinker_: get the refund while you can
Mar 09 12:33:25 <Diablo-D3>	ZedsterX: remember btc/usd prices
Mar 09 12:33:31 <Thinker_>	Diablo-D3:  good point
Mar 09 12:33:34 <Diablo-D3>	people paid usd prices with btc
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Mar 09 12:34:06 <Diablo-D3>	and btc has tripled since the first bfl preorders
Mar 09 12:34:17 <B0g4r7>	More than.
Mar 09 12:34:21 <Diablo-D3>	ergo, even if bfl fills those orders, they're still a massive scam
Mar 09 12:34:25 <jMyles>	So, are we thinking that BFL (or whomever) actually has at least some of the ASICs and they're using them to mine?  What's the best way of looking at the overall muscle being thrown at the system and figuring out from whence it's coming?
Mar 09 12:34:28 <BitHub>	yeah true
Mar 09 12:34:37 <ZedsterX>	and you blame BFL for BTC increase?
Mar 09 12:34:38 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: no, there is no proof there is any existence of bfl asics
Mar 09 12:34:39 <BitHub>	they just leverage their time and doubled their money
Mar 09 12:34:46 <BitHub>	probably mor
Mar 09 12:34:48 <Diablo-D3>	ZedsterX: no, I blame them for violating US Federal law to begin with
Mar 09 12:35:03 <Diablo-D3>	ZedsterX: it is illegal to take preorders until the item is ready to ship
Mar 09 12:35:17 <B0g4r7>	paid-in-full preorders.
Mar 09 12:35:34 <Diablo-D3>	ZedsterX: its only a matter of time until someone from the government notices what BFL does and shuts their shit down
Mar 09 12:35:39 <ZedsterX>	ahhh but you want to be on the internet all anon and use anon money?
Mar 09 12:35:39 <Diablo-D3>	ZedsterX: which means no one ever gets their money back
Mar 09 12:35:52 <kakobrekla>	just like with dmc ;)
Mar 09 12:35:53 <Diablo-D3>	even people who paid in usd will most likely never see their money
Mar 09 12:35:54 <ZedsterX>	then whine when things don't go your way
Mar 09 12:36:07 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: not at all, we're on track to becoming even soon
Mar 09 12:36:08 <Thinker_>	I paid them in USD via PayPal
Mar 09 12:36:32 <kakobrekla>	you gonna pay out 1btc per share or what?
Mar 09 12:36:47 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: no, but we're going to cross what was put into dmc
Mar 09 12:36:55 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: remember, most people never bought into dmc at 1btc per share
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Mar 09 12:37:12 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: I did a mid mortem about a month ago estimating how much was put into DMC
Mar 09 12:37:25 <kakobrekla>	so you gonna base your value on 0.05 btc per share or what
Mar 09 12:37:26 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: we should be able to cross the highest estimate in about 6 months to a year
Mar 09 12:37:33 <jMyles>	I'm interested in dividends.  Is there a way I can search bitfunder by dividend frequency?
Mar 09 12:37:41 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: thats a bad way of investing
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Mar 09 12:37:56 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: you want to invest in the asset value of the company and its ability to turn a profit, not in how much they give you
Mar 09 12:38:16 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: giving you dividends means money that can't be reinvested into the business
Mar 09 12:38:19 <Diablo-D3>	which means no growth
Mar 09 12:38:44 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: not 0.05, but I've told people who bought in at higher amounts to wait until the end
Mar 09 12:38:50 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: whoever waits the longest will get the most
Mar 09 12:38:54 <B0g4r7>	There's different investment styles.  I'm liking my asicminer dividends so far.
Mar 09 12:39:02 <B0g4r7>	And the "resale value" is also nice.
Mar 09 12:39:05 <Diablo-D3>	B0g4r7: yes, but asicminer is a prime example of a good company
Mar 09 12:39:24 <Diablo-D3>	they have actual assets, they are a real company, and they have a worthwhile business model
Mar 09 12:39:26 <jMyles>	I understand the conventional wisdom, but isn't this a bit of a special case?  With ASICs hitting the blockchain, I'm looking for a way to participate.  It looks like I'm not going to get a miner myself this week, but dividends allow me to cooperatively participate.
Mar 09 12:39:59 <B0g4r7>	Has dmc invested in any asic hardware aside from asicminer?
Mar 09 12:40:00 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: I tried the "ignore conventional wisdom" route, it ended up destroying an exchange (GLBSE) and it cost my shareholders some money
Mar 09 12:40:10 <Diablo-D3>	B0g4r7: no, we have no place of physical hardware
Mar 09 12:40:14 <jMyles>	B0g4r7: When you say "asicminer," is that distinct from "G.ASICMINER-PT"?
Mar 09 12:40:23 <Ukto>	jMyles: yes
Mar 09 12:40:27 <Ukto>	asicmine is the actual shares
Mar 09 12:40:32 <Ukto>	g.asicminer-pt is a passthru
Mar 09 12:40:34 <jMyles>	Diablo-D3: Interesting.  What do you do?  Where can I learn more about your operation?
Mar 09 12:40:36 <Diablo-D3>	B0g4r7: ergo, the entire point of taking 2 racks in the DC for ourselves was for hosting the hardware
Mar 09 12:40:40 <Ukto>	since asicminer is not an an exchange at the moment
Mar 09 12:40:55 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: DMC is a company that is trying to build a high efficiency data center for high density computing
Mar 09 12:41:09 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: the primary income is supposed to be renting the racks in the data center, not playing the mining game]
Mar 09 12:41:18 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: ironic given the name of the company
Mar 09 12:41:28 <B0g4r7>	^ indeed
Mar 09 12:41:53 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: however, nefario, the guy who started GLBSE, basically fucked everybody. he fucked me, he fucked my shareholders, he fucked people who weren't my shareholders, I think he even fucked people who don't even know what bitcoin is
Mar 09 12:42:18 <BitHub>	anyone bashed him yet?
Mar 09 12:42:27 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: he hasn't come out of hiding
Mar 09 12:42:34 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: theres a few people who plan on suing the shit out of him
Mar 09 12:42:46 <BitHub>	cant be that hard, we found osama
Mar 09 12:42:54 <B0g4r7>	:rolleyes:
Mar 09 12:42:59 <Diablo-D3>	dude, we knew where osama was long before we killed him
Mar 09 12:43:09 <Diablo-D3>	we knew where he was in late 2002, hiding in pakistan
Mar 09 12:43:26 <BitHub>	made a funny joke about that last night
Mar 09 12:43:37 <B0g4r7>	In Russia, Osama knows where *you* are!
Mar 09 12:43:42 <Diablo-D3>	B0g4r7: hah
Mar 09 12:44:04 <BitHub>	i always call obama osama now its becomming so confusing have they morph into the same person?
Mar 09 12:44:05 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: but yeah, to fix nefario's damage, I'm slowly buying back all the shares, and I'm going to issue corporate bonds after that
Mar 09 12:44:17 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: only if you watch fox news
Mar 09 12:44:29 <iz>	BitHub: that's okay, that's how it works for highlanders
Mar 09 12:44:40 <BitHub>	since osama died its become very hard to not get teh names mixed up
Mar 09 12:44:47 <iz>	kill one and that dude takes his quickening energy
Mar 09 12:44:49 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: the company is going to be registered here in maine, and we're going to hire as many local businesses to get this done
Mar 09 12:46:36 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150481.0 reminds me of my nonprofit experience
Mar 09 12:46:49 <jurov>	1. found nonprofit organization
Mar 09 12:46:52 <jurov>	2. ban people
Mar 09 12:47:10 <jurov>	(no 3. profit, sadly)
Mar 09 12:47:36 <Diablo-D3>	hah
Mar 09 12:47:53 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: but yeah, I think mining may be at the end of its game, its going to be whoever does it efficiently as possible wins
Mar 09 12:48:23 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: the only reason DMC was to maintain mining hardware at all is to protect our investment in Bitcoin, and to lessen the chance of a 51% attack
Mar 09 12:49:39 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: the original million dollar plan was to be 2 or 3 dozen racks, only 2 devoted to mining
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Mar 09 12:50:01 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: in high density data centers, its not uncommon to see racks go for $15-20k a year
Mar 09 12:50:24 <Diablo-D3>	er a month, I mean
Mar 09 12:50:46 <Diablo-D3>	jMyles: but if you want to invest in DMC, you're going to have to wait for the reboot
Mar 09 12:53:54 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/#c297
Mar 09 12:53:55 <kakobrekla>	i lold
Mar 09 12:54:37 <Diablo-D3>	oh man
Mar 09 12:54:40 <Diablo-D3>	what if they ship ON april first
Mar 09 12:54:49 <Diablo-D3>	what if they've been waiting for this joke all along
Mar 09 12:54:58 <kakobrekla>	then they lose the bet
Mar 09 12:55:09 <Diablo-D3>	WHAT IF BFL IS REALLY GOOGLE!?
Mar 09 12:55:20 <kakobrekla>	ok diablo, take a chill pill
Mar 09 13:00:02 <ineededausername>	anyone want to sell asicminer?  paying .58, negotiable
Mar 09 13:00:28 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: you need to learn when Im being funny
Mar 09 13:00:52 <kakobrekla>	well that aint funny
Mar 09 13:03:11 <Diablo-D3>	no, its fucking hilarious
Mar 09 13:03:52 <B0g4r7>	I wonder how many shares you'll need to exchange for a device if they were to start offering them.
Mar 09 13:03:59 <B0g4r7>	Or if it will work like that.
Mar 09 13:04:16 <Namworld>	trading is so silent...
Mar 09 13:13:24 <Ukto>	well.. isnt mpex down or something?
Mar 09 13:13:26 <Ukto>	I might be wrong
Mar 09 13:13:31 <Ukto>	but someone mentioned it to me
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Mar 09 13:14:36 <Ukto>	not trying to pick on mpex.. just usually thats the main channel announcer. lol
Mar 09 13:14:56 <keith_hanson>	So, I only just saw the news about bitinstant. Is there truth in that?
Mar 09 13:15:04 <Ukto>	depends on what you read
Mar 09 13:15:26 <Ukto>	their domain registrar gave a random unknown person access to their domain, who redirected it.
Mar 09 13:15:26 <keith_hanson>	a $12,000 social engineering hack or some such?
Mar 09 13:15:37 <Ukto>	and managed to withdrwa btc from the one exchange partner that did not offer 2fa
Mar 09 13:15:39 <Ukto>	end of story.,
Mar 09 13:15:39 <maximian>	!help
Mar 09 13:15:40 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 13:15:41 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 13:15:42 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 13:15:44 <keith_hanson>	ah
Mar 09 13:16:00 <keith_hanson>	I love this channel :)
Mar 09 13:16:12 <Ukto>	not meaning to be rude. just short and simple. hehe
Mar 09 13:16:13 <keith_hanson>	thanks Ukto
Mar 09 13:16:21 <jurov>	Ukto, virwox did offer 2fa but bitinstant hasn't it enabled
Mar 09 13:16:24 <keith_hanson>	oh, no, wasn't being sarcastic ;)
Mar 09 13:16:27 <maximian>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017452/
Mar 09 13:16:27 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 13:16:29 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017453/plain/
Mar 09 13:16:33 <Ukto>	news stories/blogs often enlarge things :P
Mar 09 13:16:59 <Ukto>	jurov: I wonnder if they will continue with them either way
Mar 09 13:17:04 <keith_hanson>	I actually am surprised they don't have an explanation on their own blog, where I went first
Mar 09 13:17:23 <jurov>	cuz their blog is on the same machine
Mar 09 13:17:37 <Ukto>	i thought there was a blog post on it
Mar 09 13:17:38 <Ukto>	heh
Mar 09 13:17:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.972 = 29.16 BTC [-]
Mar 09 13:18:11 <Ukto>	Namworld: there you go
Mar 09 13:18:12 <Ukto>	:)
Mar 09 13:18:17 <Ukto>	feel better?
Mar 09 13:18:29 <keith_hanson>	Ah, I assumed that was outdated since it was 5 days ago, haha
Mar 09 13:18:51 <maximian>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017455/
Mar 09 13:18:52 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 13:18:54 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017456/plain/
Mar 09 13:19:17 <keith_hanson>	And yes :P
Mar 09 13:20:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.972 BTC [-]
Mar 09 13:21:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.972 BTC [-]
Mar 09 13:21:21 <kakobrekla>	maximian some linebreak issues there eh
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Mar 09 13:21:48 <kakobrekla>	the second try seems almost correct
Mar 09 13:21:52 <Namworld>	Ukto: what? What happened?
Mar 09 13:22:10 <maximian>	yeah, not sure what's causing that
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Mar 09 13:24:19 <maximian>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017459/
Mar 09 13:24:19 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 13:24:21 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017460/plain/
Mar 09 13:24:29 <kakobrekla>	great success
Mar 09 13:24:29 <maximian>	that worked
Mar 09 13:24:35 <Ukto>	Namworld: you said it was quiet for trades :P
Mar 09 13:24:58 <Namworld>	ah, that
Mar 09 13:25:03 <Ukto>	G.ASICMINER-PT - +250 shares trasnfered in today. New total: 11,282
Mar 09 13:25:12 <kakobrekla>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017463/
Mar 09 13:25:12 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 13:25:14 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017464/plain/
Mar 09 13:25:17 <Ukto>	+250 not - + :P
Mar 09 13:25:47 <maximian>	!depth
Mar 09 13:26:16 <kakobrekla>	that the other bot i think
Mar 09 13:26:18 <kakobrekla>	$depth
Mar 09 13:26:19 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/L9HrBrG4
Mar 09 13:26:20 <kakobrekla>	or smth
Mar 09 13:26:27 <maximian>	ah right
Mar 09 13:26:31 <parseval>	The shares are a lot cheaper on the bitfunder PT..  not that I'm complaining, I like selling for more
Mar 09 13:26:46 <maximian>	$depth
Mar 09 13:26:49 <mpexbot>	maximian: http://pastebin.com/6asfdRkn
Mar 09 13:27:14 <parseval>	It's a matter of depth with the bitfunder having over 11k shares to btc-tc having 1k.  More demand on btc-tc raises the price, I guess.
Mar 09 13:27:42 <maximian>	we just need a good command line tool to automate this, and it'll be perfect
Mar 09 13:27:51 <kakobrekla>	i was thinking of this
Mar 09 13:28:12 <kakobrekla>	but it would require each user to run its own vpn node with a small script and priv key on it
Mar 09 13:28:24 <Ukto>	parseval: the prices will even out over the next day or three
Mar 09 13:28:27 <kakobrekla>	vpn = vps
Mar 09 13:28:46 <maximian>	why a dedicated node?
Mar 09 13:29:04 <kakobrekla>	you dont want to share the priv key
Mar 09 13:29:11 <Ukto>	.. i just realised.. there are a lot of new nicks in here today. someone advertising -assets?
Mar 09 13:29:12 <kakobrekla>	and you want to automate singing
Mar 09 13:29:28 <parseval>	It'd be nice if I could get some more of those at .65 :D
Mar 09 13:29:31 <kakobrekla>	Ukto its been happening for like a week or so, dunno why
Mar 09 13:29:40 <Ukto>	parseval: I am with you. lol
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Mar 09 13:29:54 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: sounds like asicminer users mebbe ?
Mar 09 13:30:07 <kakobrekla>	dunno, new ppl in any case.
Mar 09 13:30:23 <Ukto>	wanna place a bet on how long before they run away? :P
Mar 09 13:30:24 <parseval>	I'm somewhat new, I've been lurking the last week or two
Mar 09 13:30:56 <Ukto>	parseval: ah, you prolly know who most of the talkers are then.
Mar 09 13:31:24 <keith_hanson>	Ukto: I went hunting for IRC rooms on bitcoin trading, and somehow landed in here. Sadly can't remember how
Mar 09 13:31:36 <kakobrekla>	sadly, this is the best bitcoin chan.
Mar 09 13:31:43 <keith_hanson>	Someone mentioned this is where intelligent discussion resides :)
Mar 09 13:31:48 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: kinda think so
Mar 09 13:31:59 <Ukto>	keith_hanson: i think you were lied to. LOL
Mar 09 13:32:00 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 09 13:32:05 <keith_hanson>	haha
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Mar 09 13:32:18 <keith_hanson>	seems a lot more intelligent than most channels :P
Mar 09 13:32:19 <Ukto>	at least I try to psh for the opposite. :P
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Mar 09 13:33:52 <keith_hanson>	I'm in the very beginnings of writing a tradebot, and figured this would be a decent place to lurk while working :)
Mar 09 13:34:19 <keith_hanson>	of course, I end up just lurking in IRC instead of working, haha
Mar 09 13:34:46 <daybyter>	what language you want to use?
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Mar 09 13:35:18 <Ukto>	and trading in what, assets or btc ?
Mar 09 13:35:40 <Ukto>	porn? MP has lots of that
Mar 09 13:35:59 <keith_hanson>	daybyter: Ruby
Mar 09 13:36:14 <keith_hanson>	Ukto: haha, btc, over mtgox atm
Mar 09 13:36:18 <Ukto>	go python. seriously. :P
Mar 09 13:36:27 <daybyter>	oh...ok...
Mar 09 13:36:36 <Ukto>	if your in the us
Mar 09 13:36:42 <Ukto>	i wouldnt bother with integrating gox api
Mar 09 13:36:46 <keith_hanson>	I've been writing ruby and also rails apps for... most of my career :P
Mar 09 13:36:51 <daybyter>	no help then...I use Java...
Mar 09 13:36:53 <Ukto>	since you prolly wont use gox anymore after april
Mar 09 13:37:00 *	keith_hanson sigh
Mar 09 13:37:04 <keith_hanson>	sucks.
Mar 09 13:37:07 <keith_hanson>	probably right
Mar 09 13:37:16 <keith_hanson>	But the overall architecture should be able to remain the same.
Mar 09 13:37:17 <Ukto>	there are two alternatives coming up
Mar 09 13:37:20 <Ukto>	one is coinlab
Mar 09 13:37:22 <daybyter>	or javascript....
Mar 09 13:37:22 <Ukto>	and one is
Mar 09 13:37:26 <Ukto>	well, unannounced. :P
Mar 09 13:37:41 <Ukto>	that will act as gox passthru for usd
Mar 09 13:37:47 <keith_hanson>	Javascript and Node.js would be fun, but there are so many things that are already setup for me in my comfort zones :P
Mar 09 13:37:50 <daybyter>	as long as they implement a similar api, I don't care...
Mar 09 13:37:54 <Ukto>	they wont
Mar 09 13:37:59 <keith_hanson>	haha
Mar 09 13:38:00 <Ukto>	no one wants to be anything like gox api
Mar 09 13:38:05 <Ukto>	thats just torture
Mar 09 13:38:10 <keith_hanson>	that would be too nice to all us early adopters :P
Mar 09 13:38:16 <Ukto>	you will find easy websockets if they are done right
Mar 09 13:38:21 <Ukto>	one of which I know is doing it right
Mar 09 13:38:22 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 09 13:38:34 <daybyter>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135392
Mar 09 13:38:35 <Ukto>	daybyter : do you have a running arb bot
Mar 09 13:38:45 <keith_hanson>	so I thought coinlab was doing something *with* mtgox?
Mar 09 13:38:53 <daybyter>	it's not running at the moment, I think...
Mar 09 13:38:58 <Ukto>	keith_hanson: they are
Mar 09 13:39:04 <Ukto>	they are taking over all us/ca gox clients
Mar 09 13:39:09 <Ukto>	and acting as a platform passthru
Mar 09 13:39:14 <Ukto>	IF you accept the tos
Mar 09 13:39:21 <Ukto>	cause gox is dropping most USD methods
Mar 09 13:39:27 <keith_hanson>	Ah, I see.
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Mar 09 13:39:31 <Ukto>	including dwolla
Mar 09 13:39:58 <keith_hanson>	Hm... well shit. No API docs.
Mar 09 13:40:03 <daybyter>	http://i.imgur.com/dmsqG.jpg
Mar 09 13:40:25 <Ukto>	well
Mar 09 13:40:33 <Ukto>	not many positive results
Mar 09 13:40:38 <keith_hanson>	slick
Mar 09 13:40:55 <keith_hanson>	I have a few grand ideas I'm thinking about
Mar 09 13:41:21 <keith_hanson>	I want to make the rules themselves have certain parameters, and then the rule logic in ruby
Mar 09 13:41:39 <keith_hanson>	code stored in the database, which would normally be terrible, but it would be a pretty flexible system
Mar 09 13:42:02 <keith_hanson>	and later try for some genetic algorithms, mainly because I'm just interested in that :P
Mar 09 13:42:03 <daybyter>	I use drools to load rule sets...
Mar 09 13:42:24 <daybyter>	But I'd like to develop a better trading language...looking for a collab...
Mar 09 13:42:35 <keith_hanson>	ah, nice. I think we may have some similar tools in rubygems
Mar 09 13:42:43 <keith_hanson>	Hm, that would be interesting.
Mar 09 13:42:53 <keith_hanson>	I've never tried to develop a meta language
Mar 09 13:43:15 <keith_hanson>	One thing that might be interesting is to develop it in JRuby
Mar 09 13:43:28 <daybyter>	my rules look too complicated...
Mar 09 13:44:04 <keith_hanson>	the beginnings of what I'm doing are from an opensource C# client
Mar 09 13:44:05 <keith_hanson>	one sec
Mar 09 13:44:21 <daybyter>	when
Mar 09 13:44:22 <daybyter>	        eval( ( AccountManager.getBalance( "BTCe", "btc<=>usd") > new Price( "1.0"))
Mar 09 13:44:23 <daybyter>	              && ChartProvider.getTicker( "BTCe", "btc<=>usd").getBuy() > ChartProvider.getSMA( "BTCe", "btc<=>usd", 6L*60L*60L*1000000L).multiply( new Price( "1.1")))
Mar 09 13:48:00 <keith_hanson>	https://github.com/br00t999/MtGox-Trading-API-Wrapper/
Mar 09 13:48:10 <keith_hanson>	daybyter: ^^
Mar 09 13:49:48 <daybyter>	it's a start...
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Mar 09 13:50:03 <daybyter>	but I would get rid of the gox dependencies...
Mar 09 13:50:25 <keith_hanson>	right. I just liked his domain models
Mar 09 13:50:29 <daybyter>	I wrote a generic TradeSite interface.
Mar 09 13:50:33 <keith_hanson>	and the rules looked simple enough with that interface
Mar 09 13:50:43 <daybyter>	and implement it for each trade site.
Mar 09 13:51:20 <deadweasel>	http://youtu.be/d1hjqg057mY   funny aikido demonstration
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Mar 09 13:52:35 <daybyter>	http://i.imgur.com/MqHfF.jpg
Mar 09 13:52:55 <daybyter>	That interface does not use any site specific methods.
Mar 09 13:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5666 BTC [-]
Mar 09 13:53:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.56699999 BTC [+]
Mar 09 13:53:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.56899999 BTC [+]
Mar 09 13:53:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.57 = 1.14 BTC [+]
Mar 09 13:53:26 <daybyter>	So it works with any trade site, that I implement the interface for.
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Mar 09 13:54:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.972 = 7.776 BTC [-]
Mar 09 13:55:14 <keith_hanson>	daybyter: wow that's great
Mar 09 13:55:27 <keith_hanson>	daybyter: keeping it private I Assume? :)
Mar 09 13:55:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.973 = 12.649 BTC [+]
Mar 09 13:55:57 <daybyter>	I'm looking for a collab, but I haven't found a good partner yet...
Mar 09 13:56:44 <daybyter>	I gave the sources to a couple of folks, but noone has ever contributed anything...
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Mar 09 13:57:00 <Ukto>	i have something similar
Mar 09 13:57:06 <Ukto>	written in c#/mono
Mar 09 13:57:16 <daybyter>	Maybe it's too complex. > 100 classes and many thousand lines of code.
Mar 09 13:57:20 <Ukto>	but its not a bot
Mar 09 13:59:05 <daybyter>	It's a framework, that you can use to write bots.
Mar 09 13:59:23 <daybyter>	It has a trade bot core and the utility classes for bots.
Mar 09 13:59:26 <Ukto>	i ment, mine
Mar 09 13:59:26 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 09 13:59:37 <daybyter>	OrderBook, ChartProvider etc.
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Mar 09 14:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6999999 BTC [+]
Mar 09 14:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.25 = 5 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 14:24:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00431 BTC [-]
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Mar 09 14:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [+]
Mar 09 14:29:50 <teazery>	!help
Mar 09 14:29:51 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 14:29:52 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 14:29:53 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 14:34:31 <teazery>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 09 14:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00550022 / 0.005884 (1651 shares, 9.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00548202 / 0.006225 (503030 shares, 2,757.62 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616231 / 0.0069 (3750175 shares, 23,109.75 BTC)
Mar 09 14:35:00 <teazery>	!ticker mpex s.bbet
Mar 09 14:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00174357 / 0.00197 (80200 shares, 139.83 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00178893 / 0.00197 (111808 shares, 200.02 BTC)
Mar 09 14:43:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-]
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Mar 09 14:47:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]
Mar 09 14:51:02 <ThickAsThieves>	madness
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Mar 09 15:08:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.513 = 1.026 BTC [-]
Mar 09 15:09:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.19 = 0.95 BTC [-]
Mar 09 15:09:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.04033 BTC [-]
Mar 09 15:09:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1398 BTC [+]
Mar 09 15:10:05 <Namworld>	So no one can lend me things to short?
Mar 09 15:10:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00586 BTC [-]
Mar 09 15:10:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 99 @ 0.00585 = 0.5792 BTC [-]
Mar 09 15:10:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.33001 BTC [-]
Mar 09 15:11:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
Mar 09 15:12:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.33317 = 1.6659 BTC [-]
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Mar 09 15:22:44 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151182.0
Mar 09 15:22:48 <kakobrekla>	"Only Satoshi the Bitcoin Cyber-Christ is going to save us." -Max Keiser
Mar 09 15:22:49 <kakobrekla>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_t39jCXXIrY
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Mar 09 15:27:41 <MJR_>	Hi
Mar 09 15:27:44 <kakobrekla>	hi
Mar 09 15:28:00 <MJR_>	Mp still having trouble?
Mar 09 15:28:11 <kakobrekla>	half way, see topic
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Mar 09 15:28:37 <MJR_>	I read it
Mar 09 15:28:47 <kakobrekla>	maybe mircea_popescu has some updates
Mar 09 15:28:54 <mircea_popescu>	hi all.
Mar 09 15:29:10 <MJR_>	Hey
Mar 09 15:29:13 <kakobrekla>	21:28.00 ( MJR_ ) Mp still having trouble?
Mar 09 15:29:13 <kakobrekla>	21:28.10 ( kakobrekla ) half way, see topic
Mar 09 15:29:13 <kakobrekla>	21:28.27 .•• mircea_popescu ( ~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu ) joined #bitcoin-assets
Mar 09 15:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ trade is atm going on through the irc bots.
Mar 09 15:29:36 <MJR_>	Cool
Mar 09 15:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	this is actually fully functional, if a little inconvenient still
Mar 09 15:29:56 <MJR_>	Noticed S.DICE rebounded a little bit
Mar 09 15:29:57 <mircea_popescu>	until someone makes a pympex equivalent
Mar 09 15:30:01 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 09 15:30:18 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu:
Mar 09 15:30:18 <kakobrekla>	21:22.48 ( kakobrekla ) "Only Satoshi the Bitcoin Cyber-Christ is going to save us." -Max Keiser
Mar 09 15:30:18 <MJR_>	Was wondering about an mpex.onion
Mar 09 15:30:19 <kakobrekla>	21:22.48 ( kakobrekla ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_t39jCXXIrY
Mar 09 15:30:43 <MJR_>	I think that guy is on meth before every show
Mar 09 15:30:51 <Ukto>	MJR_: PM
Mar 09 15:30:54 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ i am having a few set up.
Mar 09 15:31:05 <MJR_>	Cool
Mar 09 15:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is,
Mar 09 15:31:23 <mircea_popescu>	tor network may not be solid enough to cope
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Mar 09 15:32:08 <MJR_>	Yeah I was worried about that
Mar 09 15:32:36 <Namworld>	How do I encrypt with MPEx's public key?
Mar 09 15:32:36 <MJR_>	I am trying out a new irc client
Mar 09 15:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld gpg --encrypt --armor -r F1B69921
Mar 09 15:33:45 <Namworld>	Ah, thanks. I keep forgetting how to write the command.
Mar 09 15:34:01 <Namworld>	I can't seem to find a good website that lists commands and common operations
Mar 09 15:38:24 <kakobrekla>	make one
Mar 09 15:41:03 <pigeons>	man2htm
Mar 09 15:41:18 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 09 15:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 09 15:45:24 <jborkl_>	!Ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 09 15:46:03 <kakobrekla>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 09 15:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00067638 BTC [-]
Mar 09 15:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00550022 / 0.005884 (1651 shares, 9.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00548202 / 0.006225 (503030 shares, 2,757.62 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.0061622 / 0.0069 (3739840 shares, 23,045.67 BTC)
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Mar 09 15:46:16 <mircea_popescu>	caps not allowed on irc
Mar 09 15:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the evolution of s.dice is beyond funny,
Mar 09 15:46:39 <MJR_>	Yes
Mar 09 15:46:49 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: porn not allowed on blog
Mar 09 15:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	1. price collapse pre dividends ; 2. short rebound post dividends ; further rebound while mpex is beinh ddosed
Mar 09 15:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	if this is not contrary to what you'd expect i dunno what is
Mar 09 15:47:07 <MJR_>	🐤
Mar 09 15:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck who told you that ?!
Mar 09 15:47:22 <Anduck>	it's the will of internet gods
Mar 09 15:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	im with the internet goddesses, sorry.
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Mar 09 15:48:08 <MJR_>	Lol, I thought we were the Internet gods
Mar 09 15:48:21 <Anduck>	LOL guys been trolled again
Mar 09 15:48:29 <Anduck>	srs, no. you cant hang out with them.
Mar 09 15:48:35 <Anduck>	dunno bout' dem goddesses
Mar 09 15:48:48 <mircea_popescu>	it shows.
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Mar 09 15:49:58 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: Can you see the symbol between the quotes? "⚡"
Mar 09 15:50:32 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Mar 09 15:50:38 <MJR_>	Cool
Mar 09 15:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Mar 09 15:50:56 <MJR_>	Was not sure if other symbols would be able to be seen
Mar 09 15:51:11 <MJR_>	I suppose it depends on the client
Mar 09 15:51:14 <jborkl>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017561/
Mar 09 15:51:15 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 15:51:16 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017563/plain/
Mar 09 15:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150818.0 ahaha dude the forum's so funny
Mar 09 15:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap
Mar 09 15:51:31 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/605WGNKB
Mar 09 15:52:53 <dub>	.9 for AM eh
Mar 09 15:53:05 <mircea_popescu>	dub girl said .75 to 1.5
Mar 09 15:53:10 <mircea_popescu>	am dully follows.
Mar 09 15:53:41 <dub>	hmm, could be my new truck
Mar 09 15:54:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell vampirebb the mpex inbound address will be linked to most mpex withdrawals. a user can withdraw to an arbitrary address of his choice.
Mar 09 15:54:05 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 09 15:54:26 <jborkl>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017564/
Mar 09 15:54:27 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 15:54:28 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017566/plain/
Mar 09 15:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl you're doing something wrong because people have been trading ok on this system
Mar 09 15:55:19 <jborkl>	I am on my phone trying to get android to work
Mar 09 15:55:21 <mircea_popescu>	are you cleanly doing your encoding ? is your key correct ? (siometimes gpg defaults to wrong key, use a ! at the end of your keyid to force)
Mar 09 15:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150818.0 lol these people.
Mar 09 15:58:51 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1604192#msg1604192 friedcat speaks
Mar 09 15:59:04 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: is the mpex FAQ somewhere available in a pastie or can it be included in an mpex client?
Mar 09 15:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ 1 sec
Mar 09 16:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/6HuinLvf
Mar 09 16:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	if you wish to include a local copy in a bundle you distribute, such as a client or anything
Mar 09 16:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	i want you to commit that all new versions will include a faq current at the time of their release.
Mar 09 16:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty much the only condition.
Mar 09 16:03:35 <MJR_>	It should be complete as well
Mar 09 16:03:37 <FabianB_>	ok, in case i release my client to the public i'll include it in all releases; in case i don't maintain it anymore i'll make a release with FAQ removed with just a link to then current mpex site
Mar 09 16:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ if you don't maintain it anymore you're not in breach.
Mar 09 16:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	the only thing is to not ship client august 11th with faq from june 3rd
Mar 09 16:04:09 <MJR_>	If you neglect to keep the smoky dragon award
Mar 09 16:04:25 <FabianB_>	ok, that won't be a problem then
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Mar 09 16:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	you can do all languages available or pick one
Mar 09 16:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	but be a sport and don't pick "some".
Mar 09 16:07:33 <FabianB_>	heh, yeah, just thought of the english one
Mar 09 16:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	works.
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Mar 09 16:08:23 <FabianB_>	dunno if i like to include chinese and persian as long as the clients documentation itself is just english
Mar 09 16:08:36 <MJR_>	Hmmm I think I am going to enter the WOT today
Mar 09 16:08:37 <mircea_popescu>	sure, just one language is ok
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Mar 09 16:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	If we get the 60TH/s online (conservative) in late April, and the hashrate of the full network from that time is 200TH/s which linearly increases to 1,000TH/s in late December. (200+1000)/2 = 600. So we will have 10% in average of the full network from late April to late December. That translates to about 88,000 Bitcoins total mined. That is 0.22BTC/share of gross income in eight months.
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Mar 09 16:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	so where's the "you get your money back in 8 months therefore asicminer is worth like .15" talk ?
Mar 09 16:13:56 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Mar 09 16:19:39 <MJR_>	What do you think it's worth?
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Mar 09 16:20:43 <mircea_popescu>	worth ? about .05 - .1
Mar 09 16:20:50 <benkay>	!help
Mar 09 16:20:50 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 16:20:51 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 16:20:52 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 16:20:54 <mircea_popescu>	that has no bearing however, idiots are in full mania mode, so,
Mar 09 16:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	you'll be able to sell up to 10x-100x that
Mar 09 16:22:15 <jborkl>	!mp help
Mar 09 16:22:16 <assbot>	Please use http://dpaste.com/
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Mar 09 16:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	!help mp
Mar 09 16:22:35 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 16:22:36 <jborkl>	Thanks assbot
Mar 09 16:22:36 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 16:22:37 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 16:23:00 <MJR_>	yeah, I think understanding net present value may be beyond some members of the bitcoin community
Mar 09 16:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla : can you make assbot ticker identifier to be hungry ?
Mar 09 16:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	such as !ticker m C600T
Mar 09 16:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ what makes me very glad & happy is this :
Mar 09 16:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 09 16:23:53 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.679 / 0.90043 / 1 (167 shares, 150.4 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC)
Mar 09 16:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that the bitcoindiots are reduced to < 1k btc disposable income is indeed good news.
Mar 09 16:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	one year ago this would have been two degrees of magnitude larger if not more.
Mar 09 16:24:21 <jborkl>	Mircea, are the orders formatted the same in!mp
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Mar 09 16:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl the same aswhat ?
Mar 09 16:24:58 <benkay>	!mp
Mar 09 16:24:59 <assbot>	Please use http://dpaste.com/
Mar 09 16:25:11 <jborkl>	BUY|S.DICE...
Mar 09 16:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	yup
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Mar 09 16:25:22 <jborkl>	Ok thanks
Mar 09 16:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	you makr you order, you sign it, then you encrypt it, then you paste that
Mar 09 16:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	then you feed the bots
Mar 09 16:25:48 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu ?
Mar 09 16:25:54 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.C610N
Mar 09 16:25:56 <assbot>	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Mar 09 16:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m C610N
Mar 09 16:25:59 <assbot>	Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
Mar 09 16:26:00 <kakobrekla>	hm
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Mar 09 16:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	ghe doesn't find that one cause it hasn't traded
Mar 09 16:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	but since p750n is sufficient identification
Mar 09 16:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	why doesn't he find it ?
Mar 09 16:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m P750T
Mar 09 16:26:33 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Mar 09 16:26:42 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m O.BTCUSD.P750T
Mar 09 16:26:42 <kakobrekla>	the key is O.BTCUSD.C610N
Mar 09 16:26:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.89918038 / 0.90051586 / 0.90144085 (2375 shares, 2,138.73 BTC), 7D: 0.85433966 / 0.9786482 / 1.12260046 (23750 shares, 23,242.89 BTC), 30D: 0.85433966 / 1.06533167 / 1.53153505 (28750 shares, 30,628.29 BTC)
Mar 09 16:26:49 <kakobrekla>	in the depth
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Mar 09 16:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	basically, it should take the provided string, see how many of the available mpsics regex-match it
Mar 09 16:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	if 1 then report on that. if 0 or >1 then say sorry.
Mar 09 16:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	and since we're talking about this, would it be possible to have a !depth
Mar 09 16:30:04 <mircea_popescu>	which reports say 6 or 8 items either side from midmarket ?
Mar 09 16:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	like : !depth blabla
Mar 09 16:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	10x.5 100x.4 13x.22 .21 x 19 .20x150
Mar 09 16:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	etc
Mar 09 16:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	with a | down te middle.
Mar 09 16:31:55 <MJR_>	!ticker
Mar 09 16:31:56 <assbot>	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
Mar 09 16:32:10 <MJR_>	$sdice
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Mar 09 16:32:18 <jborkl>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017589/
Mar 09 16:32:19 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 16:32:20 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017591/plain/
Mar 09 16:32:40 <jborkl>	Dammit
Mar 09 16:32:44 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl
Mar 09 16:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	mind doing one pass not off the phone ?
Mar 09 16:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	to make sure your process works ?
Mar 09 16:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise if you're trying to implement somethingthat doesn't work you'll kill yourself
Mar 09 16:33:15 <kakobrekla>	it works
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Mar 09 16:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	a ok nm then
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Mar 09 16:33:40 <MJR_>	!help
Mar 09 16:33:40 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 16:33:41 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 16:33:42 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 16:34:16 <MJR_>	is gribble here?
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Mar 09 16:35:28 <jborkl>	Let me try it off normal desktop
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Mar 09 16:36:32 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m P750T
Mar 09 16:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.89918038 / 0.90051586 / 0.90144085 (2375 shares, 2,138.73 BTC), 7D: 0.85433966 / 0.9786482 / 1.12260046 (23750 shares, 23,242.89 BTC), 30D: 0.85433966 / 1.06533167 / 1.53153505 (28750 shares, 30,628.29 BTC)
Mar 09 16:36:58 <kakobrekla>				if($ticker[0] == "P" || $ticker[0] == "C" ){
Mar 09 16:36:58 <kakobrekla>					$ticker = "O.BTCUSD.".$ticker;
Mar 09 16:36:58 <kakobrekla>				}
Mar 09 16:36:59 <kakobrekla>	:p
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Mar 09 16:37:56 <MJR_>	!ticker s.dice
Mar 09 16:37:57 <assbot>	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
Mar 09 16:38:11 <kakobrekla>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 09 16:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00550022 / 0.005884 (1651 shares, 9.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00548202 / 0.006225 (503030 shares, 2,757.62 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.0061622 / 0.0069 (3739840 shares, 23,045.67 BTC)
Mar 09 16:38:25 <MJR_>	aha
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Mar 09 16:49:53 <kakobrekla>	apparently being bitcoin pr is the new hype thing
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Mar 09 16:50:49 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 09 16:50:50 <kakobrekla>	got hit with "the bitcoin catalog", "the bitcoin documentary" and "bitcoin pr buzz" in like one day
Mar 09 16:50:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.47999, Best ask: 46.54400, Bid-ask spread: 0.06401, Last trade: 46.54400, 24 hour volume: 44070.26922702, 24 hour low: 43.41100, 24 hour high: 46.99000, 24 hour vwap: 45.27764
Mar 09 16:51:13 <MJR_>	also the bitcoin hedge fund
Mar 09 16:51:19 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 09 16:51:21 <MJR_>	in Malta
Mar 09 16:51:22 <gribble>	45.12
Mar 09 16:51:40 <MJR_>	Yay for the OIX
Mar 09 16:51:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00568 BTC [+]
Mar 09 16:51:51 <kakobrekla>	yeah but that doesnt have much in common with being a bitcoin PR
Mar 09 16:52:03 <kakobrekla>	http://thebitcoincatalog.com/
Mar 09 16:52:06 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/
Mar 09 16:52:12 <MJR_>	Public relations?
Mar 09 16:52:28 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcointhedocumentary.org/wordpress/
Mar 09 16:53:01 <mircea_popescu>	heh
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Mar 09 16:55:38 <MJR_>	you know http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/ is actually pretty reasonably priced
Mar 09 16:55:49 <MJR_>	4.5 bitcoins?
Mar 09 16:55:57 <MJR_>	at most
Mar 09 16:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	Our services involve writing a professional Press Release for you and submitting it to anywhere from over 1000 to 30 000 + USA based media organisations
Mar 09 16:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	that doesn't mean anything to me.
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Mar 09 16:59:43 <Bowjob>	ianbakewell is still not here
Mar 09 17:00:06 <Bowjob>	this is looking more like a 600 BTC heist
Mar 09 17:00:15 <Bowjob>	and 30,000 dice share heist
Mar 09 17:00:23 <MJR_>	yeah, they aren't doing anything that you or I couldn't do ourselves
Mar 09 17:00:40 <MJR_>	but they are using their time to do those stupid tasks
Mar 09 17:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ i dunno what the use is tho
Mar 09 17:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	basically... more spam
Mar 09 17:01:08 <MJR_>	maybe. SEO
Mar 09 17:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 09 17:01:19 <MJR_>	Attract new customers
Mar 09 17:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob sucks.
Mar 09 17:02:01 <kakobrekla>	Bowjob urlpls?
Mar 09 17:02:15 <MJR_>	mostly have your article reposted with a Forbes.com or CNN.com domain attached
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Mar 09 17:03:36 <MJR_>	ok guys I am switching to my real name
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Mar 09 17:05:03 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 09 17:05:09 <Josh_Rossi>	this is weird
Mar 09 17:05:43 <Josh_Rossi>	my first name is reall Maximo
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Mar 09 17:06:07 <kakobrekla>	Bowjob link?
Mar 09 17:06:59 <Bowjob>	umm
Mar 09 17:07:00 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63614
Mar 09 17:07:06 <Bowjob>	Hasn't been online since the 4th
Mar 09 17:07:15 <Bowjob>	he was due for march 8th for his first payment
Mar 09 17:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	tho in fairness, isn't he working in like shipping ?
Mar 09 17:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	or oil or something ?
Mar 09 17:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	like, away for weeks ?
Mar 09 17:07:35 <Bowjob>	mhm, not sure
Mar 09 17:07:39 <Bowjob>	if he works in oil..
Mar 09 17:07:45 <Bowjob>	there should be some internet at least
Mar 09 17:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	depends.
Mar 09 17:08:03 <pigeons>	heh, not on the rigs
Mar 09 17:08:06 <Bowjob>	he works in alberta,.. yah its like 34 dollars per hour there
Mar 09 17:08:17 <Bowjob>	mcdonalds people make $14 per hour
Mar 09 17:08:28 <Bowjob>	but rent there is very exp
Mar 09 17:08:35 <Bowjob>	ill stay in vancouver lol
Mar 09 17:08:54 <Bowjob>	also, again he's late in his first payment thats defaulting right there
Mar 09 17:09:00 <Josh_Rossi>	good luck :)
Mar 09 17:09:14 <Bowjob>	"Short BTC600 @ $34.50"
Mar 09 17:09:17 <Bowjob>	Says on his profile
Mar 09 17:09:21 <Josh_Rossi>	yep
Mar 09 17:09:28 <Bowjob>	bad move imo
Mar 09 17:09:36 <Bowjob>	you do not short BTC
Mar 09 17:09:37 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 17:09:37 <Josh_Rossi>	$6000 down or so?
Mar 09 17:10:03 <mircea_popescu>	le ouch
Mar 09 17:10:05 <Bowjob>	yah
Mar 09 17:10:15 <Bowjob>	oh and thats just principal
Mar 09 17:10:20 <Josh_Rossi>	he is up on his sdice though
Mar 09 17:10:20 <Bowjob>	theres interest too
Mar 09 17:10:30 <Bowjob>	dude his dice short isnt much to cover for it
Mar 09 17:10:35 <Josh_Rossi>	yeah
Mar 09 17:10:40 <Josh_Rossi>	just saying
Mar 09 17:10:48 <FabianB_>	if anyone is interested in an MPEx client that supports its IRC bots: https://github.com/fawuxi/mpex
Mar 09 17:10:55 <FabianB_>	still a little rough, but works for me
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Mar 09 17:11:05 <Bowjob>	around march 22 we should see something interesting
Mar 09 17:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140472.msg1589556#msg1589556
Mar 09 17:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	seems cablepair was well known scammer ?! is this factual ?
Mar 09 17:11:17 <Bowjob>	thats where coinlab starts playing
Mar 09 17:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob where he shiorted at ? 60 ?
Mar 09 17:11:34 <Bowjob>	0.62
Mar 09 17:11:37 <Josh_Rossi>	do you calculate based on last or on bid?
Mar 09 17:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	o wow FabianB_ !
Mar 09 17:11:44 <mircea_popescu>	ppl please test his bot.
Mar 09 17:12:28 <Josh_Rossi>	cuz at one point it was at 35
Mar 09 17:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	well, if he closed at 35 then he's golden
Mar 09 17:13:04 <Josh_Rossi>	yes
Mar 09 17:13:04 <FabianB_>	didn't try it on non-unix systems yet, hope it works there too though
Mar 09 17:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	if not, he's up
Mar 09 17:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	like 3-4 btc
Mar 09 17:14:21 <Josh_Rossi>	!calc 40,000 * .0012
Mar 09 17:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 40,000 * .0012
Mar 09 17:15:03 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Mar 09 17:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 40000 * .0012
Mar 09 17:15:07 <gribble>	48.0
Mar 09 17:15:36 <mircea_popescu>	course mkt depth shows lowest ask at 58.8
Mar 09 17:15:39 <Josh_Rossi>	up 48 btc if its at .005
Mar 09 17:15:40 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be 3.2 not 12
Mar 09 17:15:47 <Josh_Rossi>	oh nice
Mar 09 17:15:58 <Josh_Rossi>	for me that is
Mar 09 17:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	and cause of slippage buying 40k takes avg price more to like 59.5
Mar 09 17:16:32 <Josh_Rossi>	ooh, when does he have to settle his position?
Mar 09 17:16:40 <Bowjob>	may 1st
Mar 09 17:16:44 <Bowjob>	i think
Mar 09 17:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	that may be painful.
Mar 09 17:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	with asicminer blowing over...
Mar 09 17:17:05 <Bowjob>	May 17 2013.
Mar 09 17:17:07 <Bowjob>	there
Mar 09 17:19:00 <Bowjob>	I weep for Basic victims
Mar 09 17:19:16 <Bowjob>	but I laugh at BFL victims.. I seem to be irrational
Mar 09 17:19:19 <Bowjob>	>_>
Mar 09 17:19:30 <Bowjob>	Stockholm syndrome is hilarious
Mar 09 17:21:08 <Josh_Rossi>	hehehe
Mar 09 17:21:48 <Josh_Rossi>	who lent him the shares to short?
Mar 09 17:22:13 <Bowjob>	it was tradefortress for 7k, and some random dude at 30k
Mar 09 17:22:43 <kakobrekla>	and TF runs a 'fund'
Mar 09 17:22:48 <kakobrekla>	prolly shares from there?
Mar 09 17:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Mar 09 17:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.0
Mar 09 17:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	it does look sad.
Mar 09 17:24:26 <Bowjob>	i just skimmed thru it, asic miner, popped?
Mar 09 17:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	financials don't look too good
Mar 09 17:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	and they blew their ipo
Mar 09 17:24:46 <Bowjob>	oh i see
Mar 09 17:25:15 <Bowjob>	im watching max keiser.. show. he seems like a nutjob over btc
Mar 09 17:25:28 <Bowjob>	i mean i want btc to go as much as the next person, but he seems shady
Mar 09 17:25:29 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 17:25:40 <kakobrekla>	he mentioned before, but now he met everwhores
Mar 09 17:25:44 <kakobrekla>	and he is hyped
Mar 09 17:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaaaa
Mar 09 17:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	omfg that is totally it.
Mar 09 17:25:57 <Bowjob>	is he for real lol
Mar 09 17:26:11 <kakobrekla>	for srs
Mar 09 17:26:24 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151182.0
Mar 09 17:27:22 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 17:27:32 <Bowjob>	i dunno. max seems like a used car salesman
Mar 09 17:27:45 <Bowjob>	and a snake oil peddler
Mar 09 17:27:53 <kakobrekla>	hes fucked up on btc
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Mar 09 17:27:58 <Josh_Rossi>	yes
Mar 09 17:28:11 <Josh_Rossi>	I said earlier that he sounds like he's on meth
Mar 09 17:28:32 <smickles>	bitcoin jesus? i'll just go back in my hole
Mar 09 17:28:33 <Josh_Rossi>	also, he loves btc, but I don't think he knows a lot about them
Mar 09 17:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	smickles how many geebuses have we had so far?
Mar 09 17:29:29 <smickles>	I really don't keep track
Mar 09 17:29:46 <Bowjob>	i tell my friends every now and then about bitcoin.. but i dont say i'll be rich over it
Mar 09 17:29:56 <smickles>	once, at a beer pong table, I was called jesus. I forgave them.
Mar 09 17:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	you do look kinda jesusy
Mar 09 17:30:27 <smickles>	'specially with my hair down
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Mar 09 17:39:33 <mjr_>	lol my whole office asks me every day
Mar 09 17:39:47 <mjr_>	so where are they at today?
Mar 09 17:39:59 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 09 17:40:01 <mjr_>	a coworker wanted to short them
Mar 09 17:40:37 <Bowjob>	ouch
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Mar 09 17:40:43 <Bowjob>	how much are asicminer shares now
Mar 09 17:41:08 <mjr_>	so at first he told me that we should just say that i would owe him a dollar for every dollar it goes down and he would owe me a dollar for every dollar it goes up
Mar 09 17:41:10 <kakobrekla>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 09 17:41:11 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.679 / 0.90177 / 1 (166 shares, 149.7 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC)
Mar 09 17:41:22 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 09 17:41:40 <Bowjob>	0.6 per share???
Mar 09 17:41:43 <mjr_>	I was too nice and told him I didn't want him writing naked calls
Mar 09 17:41:48 <kakobrekla>	0.6 was the low
Mar 09 17:41:59 <Bowjob>	so almost 1 btc [er share
Mar 09 17:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [+]
Mar 09 17:42:03 <Bowjob>	isnt that kinda too high
Mar 09 17:42:03 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 17:42:05 <kakobrekla>	0.9 avg
Mar 09 17:42:25 <mjr_>	like I know my risk it's $45
Mar 09 17:42:35 <mjr_>	you could be on the hook for millions
Mar 09 17:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ why not just use the mpex options i don't get it ?!
Mar 09 17:43:07 <mjr_>	he doesn't have any bitcoins
Mar 09 17:43:19 <mjr_>	and I already use the mpex options
Mar 09 17:43:29 *	mjr_ bought the 41 call
Mar 09 17:43:40 <mjr_>	this month
Mar 09 17:44:10 <mjr_>	that was before it had hit 32 I think but I don't remember
Mar 09 17:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 09 17:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	so if he doesn't have btc, why are we talking to huim lol
Mar 09 17:44:38 <mjr_>	OIX :)
Mar 09 17:44:50 <mjr_>	like I said he's my coworker
Mar 09 17:45:15 <mircea_popescu>	o you two work together ?
Mar 09 17:45:19 <mjr_>	yep
Mar 09 17:45:24 <mircea_popescu>	o nm nm
Mar 09 17:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	i was thinking we're still discussing bakewell
Mar 09 17:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	my bad
Mar 09 17:45:43 <mjr_>	nah all good
Mar 09 17:46:22 <mjr_>	ok so I registered
Mar 09 17:46:35 <mjr_>	now I want to set up the pgp signature
Mar 09 17:46:37 <Bowjob>	http://blockchain.info/charts/market-price?timespan=180days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=
Mar 09 17:47:22 <Namworld>	the heck
Mar 09 17:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld Bowjob they had a db issue
Mar 09 17:47:58 <Namworld>	BTC was worth 45 USD all that time, just no one knew about it...
Mar 09 17:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	lost some data it seems
Mar 09 17:48:13 <Namworld>	I prefer my explanation
Mar 09 17:48:23 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
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Mar 09 17:49:51 <jborkl_>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017659/
Mar 09 17:49:52 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 17:49:54 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017661/plain/
Mar 09 17:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ paste an address
Mar 09 17:50:26 <mircea_popescu>	this is getting painful to watch
Mar 09 17:51:21 <kakobrekla>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017669/
Mar 09 17:51:22 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 17:51:23 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017670/plain/
Mar 09 17:51:26 <PsychoticBoy>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150405.msg1598258#msg1598258
Mar 09 17:51:28 <PsychoticBoy>	:D
Mar 09 17:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58999999 BTC [+]
Mar 09 17:52:11 <Bowjob>	quite a nice recovery
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Mar 09 17:52:13 <Bowjob>	on dice
Mar 09 17:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	i like how this channel jumped to like 130 users lately.
Mar 09 17:53:44 <kakobrekla>	moar spam
Mar 09 17:54:12 <kakobrekla>	well accually is not bad.
Mar 09 17:54:19 <kakobrekla>	seen it worse
Mar 09 17:54:47 <benkay>	what's in the !mp output - a dump of the current order book?
Mar 09 17:56:52 <kakobrekla>	!help
Mar 09 17:56:52 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 17:56:53 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 17:56:54 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 17:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 17:59:30 <benkay>	"returns the response from MPEX order" - means that i can place orders via dpaste (given encryption etc)?
Mar 09 17:59:38 <kakobrekla>	ya
Mar 09 17:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	benkay exactly.
Mar 09 18:00:02 <benkay>	thank you.
Mar 09 18:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	if you want a dump of the book do
Mar 09 18:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	$mdepth
Mar 09 18:00:26 <mircea_popescu>	if you want a dump of the vwap do
Mar 09 18:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap
Mar 09 18:00:30 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/F8TXg0DP
Mar 09 18:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	wtf, i got them mixed ?
Mar 09 18:00:38 <mircea_popescu>	$help
Mar 09 18:00:39 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
Mar 09 18:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	$help mdepth
Mar 09 18:00:42 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Error: There is no command "mdepth".
Mar 09 18:00:45 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 09 18:00:46 <kakobrekla>	its w/o m
Mar 09 18:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	o ty
Mar 09 18:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	$depth
Mar 09 18:00:58 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/k55tiUtd
Mar 09 18:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	and if you want details of individual symbols in easier format here, benkay
Mar 09 18:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	you do
Mar 09 18:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 09 18:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00549999 / 0.0055 (1650 shares, 9.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00548202 / 0.006225 (503030 shares, 2,757.62 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616219 / 0.0069 (3738644 shares, 23,038.26 BTC)
Mar 09 18:02:46 <mjr_>	;;gpg eregister JoshRossi C286BB96FE9B6CD3
Mar 09 18:02:51 <gribble>	Request successful for user JoshRossi, hostmask mjr_!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C286BB96FE9B6CD3
Mar 09 18:03:42 <mjr_>	nice
Mar 09 18:04:05 <mjr_>	so now I'm part of the web of trust?
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Mar 09 18:04:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;gettrust mjr_
Mar 09 18:04:38 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user mjr_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=mjr_
Mar 09 18:04:43 <mircea_popescu>	not for me :D
Mar 09 18:04:49 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 09 18:05:07 <mjr_>	I meant ability to be trusted not trusted yet
Mar 09 18:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident joshrossi
Mar 09 18:05:15 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Mar 09 18:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;gpg info joshrossi
Mar 09 18:05:23 <gribble>	No such user registered.
Mar 09 18:05:26 <mircea_popescu>	npe.
Mar 09 18:05:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;gpg info JoshRossi
Mar 09 18:05:40 <gribble>	No such user registered.
Mar 09 18:05:53 <mjr_>	;;eauth JoshRossi
Mar 09 18:05:53 <gribble>	Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
Mar 09 18:06:06 <mjr_>	ok...
Mar 09 18:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	you need to handle the opt first.
Mar 09 18:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	i guess
Mar 09 18:07:27 <mircea_popescu>	btw FabianB_ do you read chinese ?
Mar 09 18:07:52 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: not really, just speak very little
Mar 09 18:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Mar 09 18:07:56 <Bowjob>	so is ian bakewell a scam or not
Mar 09 18:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob give it a week or two.
Mar 09 18:08:06 <kakobrekla>	;;eightball ian
Mar 09 18:08:06 <gribble>	It is possible.
Mar 09 18:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Mar 09 18:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;cookie gribble
Mar 09 18:08:16 <gribble>	Error: "cookie" is not a valid command.
Mar 09 18:08:20 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 18:08:22 <Bowjob>	hehe
Mar 09 18:08:28 <Bowjob>	the bot
Mar 09 18:08:29 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 18:09:23 <jMyles>	So - I'm not sure if I'm being too forward by asking this - is there a way to invest in asicminer?
Mar 09 18:09:26 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: chinese traders asking you and the faq translater where mpex went?
Mar 09 18:09:32 <jMyles>	(and to see what kind of activity is happening?)
Mar 09 18:10:00 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ no, just wanted to see about how sucky the chiense version is
Mar 09 18:10:12 <mircea_popescu>	jMyles you're never too forward by asking.
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Mar 09 18:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	there's a btct passthrough and a bitfunder passthrough.
Mar 09 18:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	their contractual basis is maybe shaky, do your dd
Mar 09 18:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	to see activity,
Mar 09 18:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 09 18:10:43 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.69 / 0.90312 / 1 (165 shares, 149 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC)
Mar 09 18:10:52 <jMyles>	mircea_popescu: but it looks like the passthroughs have only paid two dividends?
Mar 09 18:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	ukto has yet STILL NOT ADDED BF
Mar 09 18:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	jMyles i really haven't been keeping tabs so i dunno
Mar 09 18:11:58 <Ukto>	me add what?
Mar 09 18:12:01 <Ukto>	to the bot?
Mar 09 18:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	your feed! yes!
Mar 09 18:12:06 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/MSEOcWe.png
Mar 09 18:12:09 <Ukto>	i have websocket
Mar 09 18:12:10 *	Ukto shrug
Mar 09 18:12:15 <Bowjob>	we've been oddly stable for a while now
Mar 09 18:12:17 <Ukto>	assbot doesnt support it
Mar 09 18:12:25 <Bowjob>	the bids look weak however
Mar 09 18:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob looks like mpoe lol
Mar 09 18:12:45 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 18:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto can't you just make a json somewhere ?
Mar 09 18:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	at least !ticker will work then
Mar 09 18:13:00 <mjr_>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2c057cc8dff074ee13a20df82b057767f81844e56105610c250b4618
Mar 09 18:13:00 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Mar 09 18:13:05 <Bowjob>	this is calm before the storm. come monday theres gonna be a shitstorm
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Mar 09 18:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	ya but prolly on the upside.
Mar 09 18:13:24 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but its being changed due to request
Mar 09 18:13:27 <Ukto>	and its low priority
Mar 09 18:13:32 <Ukto>	whereas websocket is ready
Mar 09 18:13:36 <Ukto>	besides
Mar 09 18:13:42 <Ukto>	i am debating not doing get/post anymore
Mar 09 18:13:46 <Ukto>	and leaving it purely to websocket
Mar 09 18:13:52 <Ukto>	to keep load off the server
Mar 09 18:13:56 <mircea_popescu>	we're going to end up with a third party interpreter here ?
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Mar 09 18:14:31 <Ukto>	get/post is so archaic
Mar 09 18:14:42 <Ukto>	websockets are far far superior. lets get with the times :)
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Mar 09 18:15:02 <mircea_popescu>	whatever way you do it, it pisses me off when i can't ticker.
Mar 09 18:15:09 <mod6>	getting there!
Mar 09 18:15:10 <mod6>	(15:00) < BitOTTer755> $vwap
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Mar 09 18:15:36 *	mod6 keeps building 
Mar 09 18:16:02 <mjr_>	ident JoshRossi
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Mar 09 18:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol cool mod6
Mar 09 18:16:18 <mjr_>	;;ident JoshRossi
Mar 09 18:16:18 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Mar 09 18:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	also! mod6 : look at FabianB_ commit
Mar 09 18:16:35 <mircea_popescu>	https://github.com/fawuxi
Mar 09 18:16:35 <mjr_>	ident mjr_
Mar 09 18:16:44 <mircea_popescu>	might have stuff there you need for your own botcode
Mar 09 18:16:50 <mjr_>	;;ident mjr_
Mar 09 18:16:51 <gribble>	Nick 'mjr_', with hostmask 'mjr_!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is not identified.
Mar 09 18:18:15 <gabridome>	!help
Mar 09 18:18:16 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 18:18:16 <FabianB_>	it's still pretty ugly and needs refactoring, but it's there and it works
Mar 09 18:18:17 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 18:18:18 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 18:19:51 <mod6>	thx mircea_popescu, his is Ruby but might come in handy...
Mar 09 18:20:17 <mircea_popescu>	o wow, ruby ?
Mar 09 18:20:28 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ aren;'t you concerned by the numerous breaches lately ?
Mar 09 18:20:44 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: not at all, all those braches are Rails related
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Mar 09 18:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	ah, this is not ror just ruby ?
Mar 09 18:21:04 <FabianB_>	jup
Mar 09 18:21:08 <FabianB_>	never liked ror
Mar 09 18:21:12 <FabianB_>	ror is not ruby
Mar 09 18:21:26 <benkay>	never liked ruby
Mar 09 18:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	kk
Mar 09 18:21:31 <benkay>	;
Mar 09 18:21:34 <benkay>	;)
Mar 09 18:21:36 <FabianB_>	and of course a commandline client doesn't need any web stuff
Mar 09 18:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB_ the concern is that some unwittign user may be running a web server on his home computer w/o knowing
Mar 09 18:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	this is common for windows users for instance
Mar 09 18:22:31 <mircea_popescu>	then he could end up raped unexpectedly.
Mar 09 18:22:42 <mjr_>	rape is rarely expected
Mar 09 18:22:49 <mircea_popescu>	exactly :D
Mar 09 18:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.595 = 1.19 BTC [+]
Mar 09 18:23:31 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: not through my code, only if my code (or a library i use) is itself insecure or if that user is integrating it into his lame ror
Mar 09 18:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	kay.
Mar 09 18:24:00 <benkay>	i would expect at least one rorbro to do something like that
Mar 09 18:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	benkay at least it's been publicly mentioned, it's known about etc.
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Mar 09 18:25:44 <mjrIII>	ok now i can try to get this WOT thing working
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Mar 09 18:26:02 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu: actually it started as a more featureful alternative to pympex for me; used it for a while
Mar 09 18:26:09 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Mar 09 18:26:16 <FabianB_>	i just added the IRC stuff today
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Mar 09 18:29:50 <aethero>	!help
Mar 09 18:29:51 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 18:29:52 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 18:29:53 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
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Mar 09 18:35:17 <aethero>	what's the latest on mpex?
Mar 09 18:35:36 <Namworld>	DDoS
Mar 09 18:35:53 <Josh_Rossi>	;;gpg eregister Josh_Rossi C286BB96FE9B6CD3
Mar 09 18:35:55 <gribble>	Request successful for user Josh_Rossi, hostmask Josh_Rossi!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C286BB96FE9B6CD3
Mar 09 18:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	aethero https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1605252#msg1605252 is a good point to staert
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Mar 09 18:36:42 <aethero>	Expected ETA for the site itself?
Mar 09 18:36:47 <aethero>	Going strictly onion?
Mar 09 18:38:54 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 18:38:54 <gribble>	Nick 'Josh_Rossi', with hostmask 'Josh_Rossi!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None
Mar 09 18:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	aethero there are bots trading here. there will be an onion up, but im not sure tor can take the load.
Mar 09 18:39:19 <mircea_popescu>	there is a 10gb dedicated connection with muchly beefed up setups coming online asap.
Mar 09 18:39:24 <aethero>	ever going on clearweb again
Mar 09 18:39:35 <mircea_popescu>	there have been problems with supplying the hardware and so forth. I think next week is a safe estimate
Mar 09 18:40:39 <Josh_Rossi>	nice...arista?
Mar 09 18:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Mar 09 18:41:04 <Josh_Rossi>	we got one arista 10gb
Mar 09 18:41:21 <Josh_Rossi>	and i also got to play with a force10
Mar 09 18:41:52 <mircea_popescu>	aethero anyway, proving that mpex can work w/o website is an important point here.
Mar 09 18:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	i want that to sink in well.
Mar 09 18:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.7 = 5.1 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 18:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 720 @ 0.18196843 = 131.0173 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 18:52:45 <Josh_Rossi>	;;gettrust Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 18:52:46 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user Josh_Rossi to user Josh_Rossi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=Josh_Rossi&dest=Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 18:53:04 <Josh_Rossi>	;;gettrust mircea_popescu
Mar 09 18:53:04 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user Josh_Rossi to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=Josh_Rossi&dest=mircea_popescu
Mar 09 18:53:23 <Josh_Rossi>	well looks like i got it working
Mar 09 18:53:37 <Josh_Rossi>	but i would like to add an address to it
Mar 09 18:53:40 <FabianB_>	;;ident Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 18:53:41 <gribble>	Nick 'Josh_Rossi', with hostmask 'Josh_Rossi!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None
Mar 09 18:55:02 <Josh_Rossi>	;;rate mircea_popescu +3
Mar 09 18:55:02 <gribble>	Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users.
Mar 09 18:55:11 <Josh_Rossi>	ah ok
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Mar 09 18:55:49 <mjr_>	;;eauth Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 18:55:51 <gribble>	Request successful for user Josh_Rossi, hostmask mjr_!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C286BB96FE9B6CD3
Mar 09 18:57:37 <Josh_Rossi>	;;getinfo Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 18:57:37 <gribble>	Error: "getinfo" is not a valid command.
Mar 09 18:58:37 <Josh_Rossi>	.authenticate
Mar 09 18:59:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Mar 09 18:59:56 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
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Mar 09 19:01:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3f37b219dbeef705e0d0715acbc922c60d94b6b639c29a17c94779ac
Mar 09 19:01:52 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 09 19:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate Josh_Rossi 1 He's a noob.
Mar 09 19:02:19 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Josh_Rossi has been recorded.
Mar 09 19:02:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7752 BTC [-]
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Mar 09 19:07:32 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 19:07:32 <gribble>	Nick 'Josh_Rossi', with hostmask 'Josh_Rossi!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is not identified.
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Mar 09 19:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.7 = 8.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 19:21:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.01001 BTC [-]
Mar 09 19:21:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 9 @ 0.01 = 0.09 BTC [-]
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Mar 09 19:21:55 <mod6>	ok this is getting a bit better... (16:21) <@mod6> http://pastebin.com/C1dT6RrM
Mar 09 19:21:58 <mod6>	(16:21) < BitOTTer569> PasteBin Key: C1dT6RrM
Mar 09 19:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	haha is that your little ircbot ?
Mar 09 19:22:35 <mod6>	yeah. the old Net::IRC is like uber deprecated
Mar 09 19:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	supy ?
Mar 09 19:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	or no cause you were doing perl neh ?
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Mar 09 19:23:20 <mod6>	just changing these scripts to be able to connect to IRC and issue a command, get a response, parse it, then grab the URL or Key parsed, grab the raw data from the paste, and then display.
Mar 09 19:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	ya but what bot is it ? bitch ?
Mar 09 19:23:41 <mod6>	haha, i rolled my own
Mar 09 19:23:50 <Josh_Rossi>	nice mod6
Mar 09 19:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	o all the wya ?!
Mar 09 19:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	wow. well done.
Mar 09 19:24:01 <Josh_Rossi>	I am trying to set this up now
Mar 09 19:24:04 <mod6>	well, with this lib: POE::Component::IRC
Mar 09 19:24:22 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:24:22 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Mar 09 19:24:35 <Josh_Rossi>	;;eauth
Mar 09 19:24:35 <mod6>	so that has all of the commands and some subroutines to help with connect and sessions, etc.
Mar 09 19:24:36 <gribble>	(eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
Mar 09 19:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	someone should totally make a lispbot implementation.
Mar 09 19:25:00 <mod6>	thx mircea_popescu, ima keep working on it for the next few days. hopefully get it to a spot that's pretty functional.
Mar 09 19:25:12 <mod6>	ahh lisp
Mar 09 19:25:16 <mod6>	even seen scheme?
Mar 09 19:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 isn't it funny that as you make progress mpex also adds shit ?
Mar 09 19:25:25 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Mar 09 19:26:05 <mod6>	yeah its good though
Mar 09 19:26:08 <mod6>	:D
Mar 09 19:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Mar 09 19:26:19 <mod6>	ima keep going here. thx guys.
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Mar 09 19:27:54 <Josh_Rossi>	awesome
Mar 09 19:27:58 <Josh_Rossi>	this is starting to work
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Mar 09 19:30:12 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:30:13 <gribble>	You are not identified.
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Mar 09 19:30:57 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker m s.bbet
Mar 09 19:30:57 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00174357 / 0.00197 (80200 shares, 139.83 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00178893 / 0.00197 (111808 shares, 200.02 BTC)
Mar 09 19:31:16 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 09 19:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00549999 / 0.0055 (1650 shares, 9.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00547927 / 0.006225 (500573 shares, 2,742.78 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616216 / 0.0069 (3735257 shares, 23,017.26 BTC)
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Mar 09 19:34:28 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:34:28 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None
Mar 09 19:34:33 <Josh_Rossi>	awesome
Mar 09 19:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5949999 = 1.19 BTC [-]
Mar 09 19:35:04 <Josh_Rossi>	got the mirc script to work
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Mar 09 19:38:36 <mircea_popescu>	wd
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Mar 09 19:38:50 <BitHub>	whats the price for asicminer today fokes?
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Mar 09 19:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 09 19:39:35 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.7 / 0.91596 / 1 (156 shares, 142.9 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.68597 / 1 (1171 shares, 803.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68597 / 1 (1171 shares, 803.3 BTC)
Mar 09 19:39:52 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:39:53 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None
Mar 09 19:40:04 <BitHub>	thanks mircea
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Mar 09 19:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m p750t
Mar 09 19:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.89918038 / 0.90051586 / 0.90144085 (2375 shares, 2,138.73 BTC), 7D: 0.85433966 / 0.9786482 / 1.12260046 (23750 shares, 23,242.89 BTC), 30D: 0.85433966 / 1.06533167 / 1.53153505 (28750 shares, 30,628.29 BTC)
Mar 09 19:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	aaa kickass
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Mar 09 19:42:14 <BitHub>	!ticker m asicminer
Mar 09 19:42:16 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Mar 09 19:42:32 <BitHub>	!ticker m asicminer-pt
Mar 09 19:42:33 <assbot>	Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
Mar 09 19:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asic
Mar 09 19:43:32 <assbot>	The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
Mar 09 19:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicmin
Mar 09 19:43:36 <assbot>	You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
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Mar 09 19:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 09 19:43:42 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.7 / 0.91596 / 1 (156 shares, 142.9 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.68597 / 1 (1171 shares, 803.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68597 / 1 (1171 shares, 803.3 BTC)
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Mar 09 19:44:16 <MJR_>	hi
Mar 09 19:44:36 <BitHub>	selling my asicminer shares for 1.8 each
Mar 09 19:44:40 <BitHub>	i'm out
Mar 09 19:45:01 <MJR_>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:45:02 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Mar 09 19:45:10 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:45:10 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None
Mar 09 19:45:16 <jcpham>	What is asicminer paying per dividend
Mar 09 19:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	like 0.019 last one iirc
Mar 09 19:46:30 <Josh_Rossi>	hmmm this is weird
Mar 09 19:47:04 <Josh_Rossi>	if you look my other nick
Mar 09 19:47:07 <Josh_Rossi>	mjr_
Mar 09 19:47:18 <Josh_Rossi>	you can see i have identified as Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 19:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	Josh_Rossi gribble doens't go by nickserv accounts
Mar 09 19:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	it just looks at the user.
Mar 09 19:47:48 <Josh_Rossi>	ah ok
Mar 09 19:47:57 <Josh_Rossi>	so it has to see Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 19:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 09 19:48:04 <Josh_Rossi>	in order to identify me?
Mar 09 19:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	no
Mar 09 19:48:11 <Josh_Rossi>	aha
Mar 09 19:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	if you identify as Josh_Rossi from any account
Mar 09 19:48:24 <jcpham>	Facepalmdeskfloor
Mar 09 19:48:34 <mircea_popescu>	it will keep track of that name you identified from.
Mar 09 19:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	so mjr can identify as Josh_Rossi and for gribble mjr will be Josh_Rossi for as long as mjr doesn't part.
Mar 09 19:49:28 <Josh_Rossi>	ok
Mar 09 19:49:55 <Josh_Rossi>	going to be hard to get an ident script working with my phone
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Mar 09 19:50:08 <Bowjob>	;;eightball ian
Mar 09 19:50:08 <gribble>	Obviously.
Mar 09 19:50:15 <Bowjob>	hes a scammer
Mar 09 19:50:18 <Bowjob>	eight ball says so lol
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Mar 09 19:50:26 <Josh_Rossi>	lol
Mar 09 19:51:21 <Josh_Rossi>	so basically how it works is that NickServe and gribble BOTH maintain separate identity for a given user
Mar 09 19:51:35 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:51:35 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None
Mar 09 19:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	Josh_Rossi exactly.
Mar 09 19:51:58 <Josh_Rossi>	hmmm
Mar 09 19:52:13 <Bowjob>	;;eightball is Ian Bakewell a scammer?
Mar 09 19:52:13 <gribble>	_I_ don't know.
Mar 09 19:52:16 <Bowjob>	Mhm
Mar 09 19:52:21 *	MJR_ is now known as mjrIII
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Mar 09 19:52:48 <Bowjob>	We will test eightball's honesty
Mar 09 19:53:01 <Bowjob>	;;eightball Did I play with myself lastnight?
Mar 09 19:53:01 <gribble>	Naturally.
Mar 09 19:53:03 *	mjrIII is now known as Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 19:53:06 <Bowjob>	Fuck. He's legit
Mar 09 19:53:19 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:53:20 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Mar 09 19:53:24 <mjr_>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:53:24 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None
Mar 09 19:53:49 <mjr_>	well that didn't work
Mar 09 19:54:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1000 @ 0.18345453 = 183.4545 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 19:54:34 <BitOTTer983>	$vwap
Mar 09 19:54:36 <mpexbot>	BitOTTer983: http://pastebin.com/dS1nAB1R
Mar 09 19:54:37 <BitOTTer983>	http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=dS1nAB1R
Mar 09 19:54:37 <mjr_>	how am i supposed to decrypt my OTP from my phone...i mean i could write a program that does it, but it is tough
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Mar 09 19:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ mod6 is working on stuff like that.
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Mar 09 19:55:47 <mod6>	yeah, i'm re-building all scripts to interact with the bots.
Mar 09 19:56:34 <jborkl_>	!mp http://dpaste.com/#webpg-link
Mar 09 19:56:34 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 19:56:36 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017761/plain/
Mar 09 19:56:43 <mod6>	and mainly what i can make work in this one is gonna go into the end thingy, whatever it becomes
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Mar 09 19:57:21 <mjr_>	hmmm but i thought he was doing it for android
Mar 09 19:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	android is a phone neh ?
Mar 09 19:57:37 <mjr_>	oh yes, of course
Mar 09 19:57:37 <mod6>	lol, doing it for that too, but now that's gonna be all f'd up
Mar 09 19:57:41 <mjr_>	i just meant i have an iphone
Mar 09 19:57:57 <jborkl_>	Ok, I finally figured it out- key managers are conflicting
Mar 09 19:58:11 <mod6>	thanks again guys, just needed to make sure that i could ping mpexbot and get the respone and all
Mar 09 19:58:13 <mjr_>	this is funny though...to me at least
Mar 09 19:58:14 *	mod6 goes back to it
Mar 09 19:58:21 <mjr_>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:58:22 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None
Mar 09 19:58:32 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 09 19:58:33 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Mar 09 19:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ not much surprise there.
Mar 09 19:59:26 <jborkl_>	No, it is not- they are a pain in the ass
Mar 09 19:59:59 <mjr_>	ok my iphone is at least jailbroken so let's see if we can get gpg :)
Mar 09 20:00:35 *	scrybe is now known as _scrybe
Mar 09 20:01:35 <jborkl_>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017771/
Mar 09 20:01:36 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 20:01:38 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017772/plain/
Mar 09 20:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 316 @ 0.18372792 = 58.058 BTC [+]
Mar 09 20:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 09 20:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 38.36519878 / 50.18328999 / 50.5301272 (no shares, 16,402.55 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 09 20:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	50 again huh
Mar 09 20:07:27 <mjr_>	yep, i think that is so far the best leading indicator i've seen
Mar 09 20:08:07 <mjr_>	so, i have gpg on my iphone now
Mar 09 20:08:29 <the-bucket-shop>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017775/
Mar 09 20:08:29 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 20:08:30 <error4733>	TAKE MY MONEY
Mar 09 20:08:31 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017776/plain/
Mar 09 20:08:37 <mjr_>	but i really don't want to go back and forth between a terminal window with a touchscreen and colloquy
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Mar 09 20:13:37 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 09 20:13:37 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Mar 09 20:13:57 <Josh_Rossi>	;;eauth Josh_Rossi
Mar 09 20:13:59 <gribble>	Request successful for user Josh_Rossi, hostmask Josh_Rossi!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C286BB96FE9B6CD3
Mar 09 20:14:37 <mod6>	ok sorry guys, but after 10 mins the pastebin expires, gotta re-conn and get a fresh one
Mar 09 20:14:55 <mod6>	im now getting back the raw vwap, just need to make sure that I'm parsing correctly as before...
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Mar 09 20:15:18 <BitOTTer315>	$vwap
Mar 09 20:15:20 <mpexbot>	BitOTTer315: http://pastebin.com/ZTNPuLZJ
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Mar 09 20:18:42 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 09 20:18:44 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067638 / 0.00067638 / 0.00067638 (1 shares, 0.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074892 / 0.00078628 (10680545 shares, 7,998.94 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00068474 / 0.00078628 (58685013 shares, 40,184.02 BTC)
Mar 09 20:19:55 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 nothing to be sorry about lol
Mar 09 20:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, the #bitcoin-assets log for this current month (9 days!) is over 1mb
Mar 09 20:21:43 <the-bucket-shop>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017790/
Mar 09 20:21:44 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 20:21:46 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017791/plain/
Mar 09 20:23:35 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: i just feel bad for the conn/dis-conns
Mar 09 20:23:39 <mod6>	but check it out ;)
Mar 09 20:23:39 <mod6>	http://dpaste.com/1017793/
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Mar 09 20:23:47 <mod6>	she works
Mar 09 20:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	a cool
Mar 09 20:27:01 <mod6>	ok one more quick test, i'll check a different MPSIC
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Mar 09 20:27:43 <BitOTTer509>	$vwap
Mar 09 20:27:46 <mpexbot>	BitOTTer509: http://pastebin.com/PXDfa3ar
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Mar 09 20:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
Mar 09 20:28:23 <mod6>	ok works pretty decent, a good rough start: http://dpaste.com/1017798/
Mar 09 20:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	i tell you this shit's pretty exciting
Mar 09 20:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	challenge brings innovation, as they say
Mar 09 20:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	ddos is one of the better things that happened to mpex so far
Mar 09 20:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	incredible huh.
Mar 09 20:30:40 <mjr_>	its amazing
Mar 09 20:30:54 <mjr_>	this is the future
Mar 09 20:31:09 <mod6>	=)
Mar 09 20:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	good designs well administered shall prevail
Mar 09 20:32:09 <mod6>	ok i cleaned that up, now i gotta do one more test then i can check it into github for yall
Mar 09 20:32:25 <Bowjob>	What do you guys think of google glasses
Mar 09 20:32:26 <mod6>	(just vwap is finished for now, will finish others over next few days...)
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Mar 09 20:33:01 <BitOTTer578>	$vwap
Mar 09 20:33:05 <mpexbot>	BitOTTer578: http://pastebin.com/xBthcKyb
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Mar 09 20:33:43 <mjr_>	this kinda reminds me of an xkcd... http://xkcd.com/504/
Mar 09 20:35:00 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 09 20:35:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.54224, Best ask: 47.89850, Bid-ask spread: 0.35626, Last trade: 47.89858, 24 hour volume: 46494.02049522, 24 hour low: 43.41100, 24 hour high: 47.89860, 24 hour vwap: 45.71103
Mar 09 20:35:07 <Bowjob>	...
Mar 09 20:35:08 <Bowjob>	wtf is this
Mar 09 20:35:14 <Bowjob>	Weekend rally
Mar 09 20:35:27 <Bowjob>	What vodoo is this
Mar 09 20:35:38 <mjr_>	http://xkcd.com/1181/ or this one LOL
Mar 09 20:35:48 <mjr_>	i know, i was hoping for a dip
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Mar 09 20:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	where's the coinlab pr spam with "mpex indomitable, btc surges"
Mar 09 20:41:17 <mod6>	ok, the vwap one is finished (for the moment) and checked in: https://github.com/modsix/bitotter_perl/blob/master/bitotter_vwap.pl
Mar 09 20:41:29 <mjr_>	hmmm
Mar 09 20:41:42 <mod6>	anyway, im ciked that was so simple. can't do more must find a cold pizza to eat somewherez!
Mar 09 20:41:47 <mjr_>	just realized that now mpex is only for mpex registered people...
Mar 09 20:41:56 <benkay>	ouch
Mar 09 20:42:02 <benkay>	dat fee
Mar 09 20:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ that was always the case ?!
Mar 09 20:42:08 <mjr_>	from market data perspective i mean
Mar 09 20:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Mar 09 20:42:41 <mjr_>	do the other commands not come encrypted?
Mar 09 20:42:46 <mjr_>	hold on i am gonna try it out
Mar 09 20:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Mar 09 20:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	plaintext
Mar 09 20:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	$depth
Mar 09 20:42:58 <mjr_>	oh ok cool
Mar 09 20:43:00 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/RCZCr6Uk
Mar 09 20:44:19 <benkay>	!help
Mar 09 20:44:19 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 20:44:20 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 20:44:21 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 20:44:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00074997 = 1.4999 BTC [+]
Mar 09 20:44:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27999 @ 0.00074998 = 20.9987 BTC [+]
Mar 09 20:44:42 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: what commands are available for the mpexbot?
Mar 09 20:44:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00074999 = 29.9996 BTC [+]
Mar 09 20:44:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19317 @ 0.00075 = 14.4878 BTC [+]
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Mar 09 20:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	benkay $post $depth $vwap
Mar 09 20:45:05 <benkay>	thank you.
Mar 09 20:45:06 <mjr_>	ah very cool
Mar 09 20:45:16 <benkay>	$vwap
Mar 09 20:45:17 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/xaBQwgvC
Mar 09 20:45:33 <benkay>	what does vwap stand for?
Mar 09 20:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	volume weighted average price
Mar 09 20:45:41 <mjr_>	volume weighted average price
Mar 09 20:45:42 <benkay>	volume weighted average..
Mar 09 20:45:43 <benkay>	price!
Mar 09 20:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	ha!
Mar 09 20:45:46 <benkay>	thanks.
Mar 09 20:46:40 <mircea_popescu>	you can also inspect these one at a time with assbot's !ticker
Mar 09 20:46:49 <mjr_>	lol, was just thinking about back in the days when we were discussing mpex fee being around $450
Mar 09 20:47:03 <mjr_>	and just realized that it will now be around $1500
Mar 09 20:47:10 <benkay>	jeeze mp
Mar 09 20:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	i always said it's only going up.
Mar 09 20:47:19 <mjr_>	hyperinflation
Mar 09 20:47:23 <mjr_>	in the usd
Mar 09 20:47:32 <mjr_>	and that is true
Mar 09 20:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	the usual consumerist "o, i'll just wait" is suicide here.
Mar 09 20:47:35 <mjr_>	you did say that
Mar 09 20:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	the longer one waits the more painful it gets.
Mar 09 20:47:49 <mjr_>	hmmm that is a good point
Mar 09 20:48:04 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149892.0
Mar 09 20:48:05 <mjr_>	this is a whole new world
Mar 09 20:48:12 <Bowjob>	I nominate pirateat40 for the documentary
Mar 09 20:48:41 <mjr_>	typically...if you wait, prices usually fall
Mar 09 20:48:49 <mjr_>	on most consumable things
Mar 09 20:49:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 09 20:49:17 <mjr_>	but in a bitcoin economy, the opposite may be true until you can finally do most of your transactions in bitcoin
Mar 09 20:49:36 <benkay>	assets denominated in btc just keep increasing in price
Mar 09 20:49:37 <mjr_>	in which case you would still be paying the same 30 btc you would have before
Mar 09 20:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	back in april 2012 when it was introduced fee was like, 100 bux irrc
Mar 09 20:49:52 <the-bucket-shop>	new metric:  1 seat mpex vs. 1 seat nyse
Mar 09 20:50:00 <the-bucket-shop>	wait for parity
Mar 09 20:50:01 <mjr_>	lol great idea
Mar 09 20:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 09 20:50:24 <mjr_>	oh...i emailed freenode and asked if they would accept bitcoin donations
Mar 09 20:50:31 <mjr_>	they only take credit card and paypal right now
Mar 09 20:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 09 20:51:02 <mjr_>	and i mean, it is pretty much exactly what they believe in as far as distributed systems and freedom
Mar 09 20:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
Mar 09 20:51:06 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha somebody just pm'd me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg773754#msg773754
Mar 09 20:52:12 <benkay>	where did homegirl running MPOE-PR pick up all dat econ?
Mar 09 20:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	benkay she is ocassionally allowed a quiet seat at the board meetings.
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Mar 09 20:54:34 <the-bucket-shop>	!mp http://pastebin.com/TMmbMjc3
Mar 09 20:54:34 <assbot>	Please use http://dpaste.com/
Mar 09 20:55:16 <the-bucket-shop>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1017811/
Mar 09 20:55:16 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 09 20:55:18 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1017812/plain/
Mar 09 20:56:18 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: preferred capitalization MPEx or MPEX?
Mar 09 20:56:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's always been MPEx
Mar 09 20:56:50 <benkay>	thanks.
Mar 09 20:56:54 <Bowjob>	money printing exchange
Mar 09 20:57:02 <Bowjob>	everyone makes money
Mar 09 20:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	haha totally.
Mar 09 20:57:31 <Bowjob>	does it it suck for people with bad calls and puts
Mar 09 20:57:34 <benkay>	!post
Mar 09 20:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	multi purpose excalibur
Mar 09 20:57:46 <benkay>	$post
Mar 09 20:57:47 <the-bucket-shop>	I got a STAT from irc.  officially idiot proof.
Mar 09 20:57:47 <mpexbot>	benkay: (post <paste key>) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.
Mar 09 20:57:49 <Bowjob>	i remember a 500 BTC squeezed out of a poor speculator
Mar 09 20:57:56 <Bowjob>	from the 26 to 20 dollar flash crash
Mar 09 20:58:00 <Bowjob>	hilarious
Mar 09 20:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob end of jan somebody got wiped for like 5k actually
Mar 09 20:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5949999 BTC [-]
Mar 09 20:58:09 <Bowjob>	yikes
Mar 09 20:58:17 <Bowjob>	Buy and hold, doesnt cost a dime
Mar 09 20:58:20 <Bowjob>	and it works so far
Mar 09 20:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	i think the record is that one time when s.dice got sold to like 0.0008
Mar 09 20:58:33 <Bowjob>	oh yeah
Mar 09 20:58:34 <Bowjob>	i remember that
Mar 09 20:58:35 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 20:58:38 <Bowjob>	fat finger
Mar 09 20:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	we mostly came to the conclusion it must have been a msitake
Mar 09 20:58:45 <Bowjob>	that was an 80k USD mistake
Mar 09 20:58:47 <Bowjob>	was it
Mar 09 20:58:49 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: i'm aware of the email and irc channels for posting trades to MPEx, are there others I'm not aware of?
Mar 09 20:58:54 <mircea_popescu>	was pretty huge.
Mar 09 20:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.595 BTC [+]
Mar 09 20:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	benkay email is not atm such a channel.
Mar 09 20:59:05 <Bowjob>	and of course this being the wild wild west of finance
Mar 09 20:59:16 <Bowjob>	they cant.. they cant reverse it
Mar 09 20:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	i had mentioned that if the worst comes to worst we will take it to email,
Mar 09 20:59:19 <Bowjob>	fat finger
Mar 09 20:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	but it hasn't come to that.
Mar 09 20:59:33 <benkay>	thanks for the clarification. is irc then the only channel over which you're accepting transactions?
Mar 09 20:59:33 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 09 20:59:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.95900, Best ask: 47.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29100, Last trade: 47.33203, 24 hour volume: 47013.01597736, 24 hour low: 43.41100, 24 hour high: 47.89860, 24 hour vwap: 45.74036
Mar 09 20:59:41 <mircea_popescu>	other than that there are private proxies available atm, and the public irc bots.
Mar 09 21:01:04 <Bowjob>	"I wish I had bought some when they were cheap :(" - On the current events forums of gamefaqs
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Mar 09 21:01:08 <benkay>	is one more robust than the other? do you prefer to receive over irc?
Mar 09 21:01:14 <Bowjob>	I was telling them about BTC since it was 13 dollars..
Mar 09 21:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	i woulsd guess irc is the most robust
Mar 09 21:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	this is a difficult question tho, robust by what standard ?
Mar 09 21:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	anything manmade is in principle doomed.
Mar 09 21:02:31 <benkay>	fuck iono
Mar 09 21:02:49 <benkay>	some arbitrary heuristic?
Mar 09 21:03:02 <benkay>	your team's hunches about these things?
Mar 09 21:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	irc is robust as long as freenode stays online.
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Mar 09 21:04:34 <benkay>	thanks again.
Mar 09 21:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	don't mention it.
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Mar 09 21:08:21 <mjr_>	yeah i think this is a great system
Mar 09 21:08:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0056 = 0.0112 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.24110904 = 241.109 BTC
Mar 09 21:11:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.21525757 = 215.2576 BTC
Mar 09 21:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.19052144 = 190.5214 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.16701309 = 167.0131 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:11:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.14485191 = 144.8519 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:14:19 <mjr_>	hmmm
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Mar 09 21:14:30 <mjr_>	i managed to import your pub key mircea
Mar 09 21:14:41 <mjr_>	still getting used to gpg
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Mar 09 21:18:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
Mar 09 21:20:30 <mjr_>	B|
Mar 09 21:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Mar 09 21:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	aand we're officially over 200k option contracts traded this month.
Mar 09 21:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	new record.
Mar 09 21:23:53 <mjr_>	does anyone know how to type the double barred B
Mar 09 21:25:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.33318 = 4.9977 BTC [+]
Mar 09 21:26:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.33317 = 1.3327 BTC [-]
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Mar 09 21:27:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 23 @ 0.21 = 4.83 BTC [+]
Mar 09 21:27:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.215 = 0.43 BTC [+]
Mar 09 21:28:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.22 = 0.66 BTC [+]
Mar 09 21:32:34 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/j8L5hhZ.jpg
Mar 09 21:32:37 <Bowjob>	Do want
Mar 09 21:33:15 <kakobrekla>	infinity sign is kinda unapropriate
Mar 09 21:33:20 <kakobrekla>	this not being fiat.
Mar 09 21:33:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.23978602 = 239.786 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:34:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.21402821 = 214.0282 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.1893874 = 189.3874 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:34:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.16597581 = 165.9758 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:34:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.14391278 = 143.9128 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:35:45 <the-bucket-shop>	that seem like a big deal to anyone?
Mar 09 21:36:06 <MadSweeney>	mpex being dos'd can be ironically considered a milestone ;-)
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Mar 09 21:41:19 <mircea_popescu>	so basically someone thinks btc will stay over 50ish
Mar 09 21:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	and has a coupla k's to back that thinking
Mar 09 21:45:48 <jcpham>	Whhoosh
Mar 09 21:48:54 <pigeons>	;;ticker
Mar 09 21:48:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.53000, Best ask: 47.54224, Bid-ask spread: 0.01224, Last trade: 47.53000, 24 hour volume: 48358.44194382, 24 hour low: 43.41100, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 45.90546
Mar 09 21:51:03 <Bowjob>	;;eightball Will BTC rise higher this week?
Mar 09 21:51:04 <gribble>	The answer is a resounding no.
Mar 09 21:51:08 <Bowjob>	:/
Mar 09 21:51:15 <Bowjob>	Sell sell sell!
Mar 09 21:53:16 <Bowjob>	Someone offered me 112 BTC for my Avalon
Mar 09 21:53:18 <Bowjob>	MHmm
Mar 09 21:53:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.23956955 = 239.5696 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:53:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.21382268 = 213.8227 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:53:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.1891934 = 189.1934 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.16579394 = 165.7939 BTC [-]
Mar 09 21:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.14374371 = 143.7437 BTC [-]
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Mar 09 21:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it ain't gribble shorting them
Mar 09 21:54:10 <jcpham>	jeebus
Mar 09 21:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	MadSweeney indeed.
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Mar 09 21:55:06 <Bowjob>	MadSweeny do people use BTC in the philippines?
Mar 09 21:55:35 <MadSweeney>	Bowjob, yes
Mar 09 21:55:36 <Bowjob>	id imagine people earn lik 1.5 BTC for 1 month
Mar 09 21:55:38 <Bowjob>	there
Mar 09 21:55:55 <MadSweeney>	that's too low
Mar 09 21:56:08 <kakobrekla>	doing what?
Mar 09 21:56:13 <Bowjob>	whats the average salary there
Mar 09 21:56:48 <Bowjob>	k, maybe 4 BTC im guessing
Mar 09 21:56:49 <Bowjob>	just a guess
Mar 09 21:56:50 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 09 22:00:27 <kakobrekla>	https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6988024064/h23C3D98F/
Mar 09 22:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.2390698 = 239.0698 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.21335791 = 213.3579 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.18876427 = 188.7643 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:00:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.16540104 = 165.401 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:00:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.1433876 = 143.3876 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:01:09 <kakobrekla>	hmmm
Mar 09 22:01:16 <pizzaman1337>	that's a lot of BTC
Mar 09 22:01:32 <pizzaman1337>	maybe they know something we don't...
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Mar 09 22:01:48 <Bowjob>	I havent really paid attention..what does it mean
Mar 09 22:01:50 <Bowjob>	those btcs
Mar 09 22:02:47 <mjr_>	whats the oix at?
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Mar 09 22:02:54 <kakobrekla>	those are put options Bowjob
Mar 09 22:02:55 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 09 22:02:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 40.68083871 / 49.87693675 / 50.5301272 (no shares, 17,066.74 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 09 22:03:06 <mircea_popescu>	50ish
Mar 09 22:03:16 <mjr_>	cool thats what i was figuring
Mar 09 22:03:34 <mjr_>	lol i just realized that i had kleopatra installed already and i was doing everything from the command line
Mar 09 22:04:36 <mjr_>	yeah i figured someone was hedging something with those
Mar 09 22:05:08 <benkay>	all the way down to 47...
Mar 09 22:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	if coinlab etc had a clue they could actually insure their coins
Mar 09 22:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	so they could deliver to customers rather than cancel orders
Mar 09 22:05:27 <Bowjob>	put options.. meaning they expect btc prices to go down.. to 47?
Mar 09 22:05:33 <benkay>	past.
Mar 09 22:05:35 <mjr_>	well
Mar 09 22:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob nah. these were sold not bought
Mar 09 22:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	person is basically saying "btc will stay over 50 the entire month, and maybe even over 55"
Mar 09 22:06:09 <benkay>	purchaser?
Mar 09 22:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	the bot bought.
Mar 09 22:06:22 <mircea_popescu>	the customer sold.
Mar 09 22:06:28 <Bowjob>	so it's a "call" then
Mar 09 22:06:30 <Bowjob>	?
Mar 09 22:06:35 <mircea_popescu>	you can tell cause the bids were taken out not the asks
Mar 09 22:06:37 <mjr_>	no selling a put = buying a call
Mar 09 22:06:37 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's a put.
Mar 09 22:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Mar 09 22:06:56 <mjr_>	if you are "short" a put
Mar 09 22:07:01 <mjr_>	it is a bullish move
Mar 09 22:07:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59499999 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:07:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.595 = 5.355 BTC [+]
Mar 09 22:07:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.599 = 1.198 BTC [+]
Mar 09 22:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	thats true.
Mar 09 22:07:30 <mircea_popescu>	just the net gain as a function of btc price changes
Mar 09 22:07:36 <mjr_>	so if you think something is going up you can sell puts and collect premiums and buy calls as well
Mar 09 22:07:36 <Bowjob>	nice recovery on havelock
Mar 09 22:07:49 <Bowjob>	i sold at 0.75, lets see what happens
Mar 09 22:08:10 <mjr_>	some people sell puts in order to buy calls (lowers their cost)
Mar 09 22:08:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, that actually may work
Mar 09 22:08:45 <Bowjob>	They should have taught me this in hs
Mar 09 22:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob absolutely.
Mar 09 22:09:03 <Bowjob>	but if they taught me about this in hs, there wont be time for shakespear
Mar 09 22:09:03 <mjr_>	shit they should teach people what a debit and a credit is
Mar 09 22:09:09 <Bowjob>	yeah ^
Mar 09 22:09:33 <mjr_>	i was actually thinking about trying to create a web based class
Mar 09 22:09:42 <mjr_>	like kahn academy or something about finance
Mar 09 22:09:47 <Bowjob>	thankfully, unlike most of my 20 year old contemporaries, I had this fine idea of saving more than i've been spending
Mar 09 22:09:48 <benkay>	fuck hs
Mar 09 22:09:54 <mjr_>	well...
Mar 09 22:10:00 <mjr_>	that is a smart idea
Mar 09 22:10:02 <benkay>	the whole education stack needs to be online
Mar 09 22:10:05 <Bowjob>	and i put it in bitcoins
Mar 09 22:10:08 <mjr_>	but not when you have rampant inflation
Mar 09 22:10:10 <Bowjob>	before they blew up from 13 dollars
Mar 09 22:10:11 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 22:10:16 <mjr_>	so in your case smart
Mar 09 22:10:17 <Bowjob>	i wish i put more
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Mar 09 22:10:25 <Bowjob>	oh well
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Mar 09 22:10:34 <benkay>	meh
Mar 09 22:10:35 <Bowjob>	and i did put in what i can lose and just write off
Mar 09 22:10:38 <benkay>	don't fixate on short term
Mar 09 22:10:38 <BitHub>	selling asicminer shares 1.8 each get at me
Mar 09 22:10:44 <benkay>	you're only 20
Mar 09 22:11:09 <benkay>	do you want to do the trading thing?
Mar 09 22:11:10 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu: what is the capital requirement for someone to sell the amount of puts we just saw
Mar 09 22:11:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84999 BTC [+]
Mar 09 22:11:32 <Bowjob>	mhm, lets just say i'm "interested" not sure yet
Mar 09 22:11:55 <Bowjob>	i'm an owl for now. just observing
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Mar 09 22:11:58 <BitOTTer906>	$depth
Mar 09 22:12:01 <mpexbot>	BitOTTer906: http://pastebin.com/Hhw3k9Bi
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Mar 09 22:12:26 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ probably about .5 btc per contract
Mar 09 22:12:27 <benkay>	what kind of work do you do?
Mar 09 22:12:34 <mircea_popescu>	something like 2500 per batch
Mar 09 22:13:13 <mod6>	sorry about the in and out, but it works better now, does both depth and vwap -- its all in one code file now too.
Mar 09 22:13:18 <mod6>	http://dpaste.com/1017874/
Mar 09 22:13:27 <mod6>	depth output successful
Mar 09 22:13:42 <kakobrekla>	is that in and out going to be a casual thing ?
Mar 09 22:13:57 <mod6>	na, i need to figure out how to msg the bot directly :/
Mar 09 22:14:07 <kakobrekla>	/msg <nick>
Mar 09 22:14:15 <mod6>	heh, this doesn't work quite like that
Mar 09 22:14:35 <kakobrekla>	ok
Mar 09 22:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	whtats the big deal, noobs join/part all da time
Mar 09 22:15:29 <kakobrekla>	ya but if we have 10 people using the script and all joining and parting
Mar 09 22:15:32 <kakobrekla>	its meh
Mar 09 22:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	a that'd be insane
Mar 09 22:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	im sure finished version won't be doing thatl ol
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Mar 09 22:16:25 <mjr_>	;;calc 239+213+188+165+143
Mar 09 22:16:26 <gribble>	948
Mar 09 22:16:36 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 09 22:16:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.52311, Best ask: 47.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37689, Last trade: 47.92886, 24 hour volume: 49410.60996836, 24 hour low: 43.41100, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 45.95456
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Mar 09 22:16:44 <Chaang-Noi>	oh btc... are we going to 100?
Mar 09 22:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	55 seems likely.
Mar 09 22:17:11 <Chaang-Noi>	yea 55 berfore 100 :)
Mar 09 22:17:18 <mjr_>	so, that guy just collected 948 bitcoins
Mar 09 22:17:29 <kakobrekla>	who?
Mar 09 22:17:36 <mjr_>	whoever sold those puts
Mar 09 22:17:41 <mjr_>	the bot bought them
Mar 09 22:17:50 <kakobrekla>	a
Mar 09 22:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
Mar 09 22:18:10 <kakobrekla>	there were two bursts
Mar 09 22:18:12 <mjr_>	what's the equation for collateral?
Mar 09 22:18:14 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 48
Mar 09 22:18:23 <gribble>	There are currently 3929.1374 bitcoins offered at or under 48.0 USD, worth 188482.186888 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Mar 09 22:18:34 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 50
Mar 09 22:18:35 <gribble>	There are currently 33194.542 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 1619455.56147 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.2957 seconds
Mar 09 22:18:44 <Chaang-Noi>	it si trhe weekend and we are trucking on up....  crazy
Mar 09 22:18:52 <mjr_>	i know
Mar 09 22:19:06 <mjr_>	s.dice is back up too
Mar 09 22:19:10 <mjr_>	mpoe is up
Mar 09 22:19:21 <Chaang-Noi>	o kinda wan t to just walk away from btc land for a month come back and see what is going on...
Mar 09 22:19:35 <Chaang-Noi>	litecoin is near 25 cents
Mar 09 22:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	ya ltc is crazy lol
Mar 09 22:19:45 <mjr_>	i am actually trying to mine litecoin
Mar 09 22:19:56 <mjr_>	not because i particularly like them
Mar 09 22:22:52 <mjr_>	but because i can send them to btc-e
Mar 09 22:22:52 <Chaang-Noi>	many many gpu miners will mine and support ltc now asics
Mar 09 22:22:52 <Chaang-Noi>	make the network stronger:)
Mar 09 22:22:52 <dub>	does cpu mining still work for ltc?
Mar 09 22:22:52 <benkay>	hahaha best
Mar 09 22:22:52 <mjr_>	lol it hasn't worked for me
Mar 09 22:22:52 <Bowjob>	Stupid move on my part, I sold 10k LTC
Mar 09 22:22:52 <Chaang-Noi>	it works but like cpu mining in btc dont do it:)
Mar 09 22:22:52 <Bowjob>	maybe I should buy back
Mar 09 22:22:52 <mjr_>	well...if you move them to btc-e
Mar 09 22:22:52 <mjr_>	you can get access to better prices
Mar 09 22:22:52 <mjr_>	i just don't like the other funding options
Mar 09 22:22:52 <mjr_>	to clarify: i meant you could end up with more bitcoins
Mar 09 22:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.23838313 = 238.3831 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.21271752 = 212.7175 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.18817119 = 188.1712 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.16485623 = 164.8562 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:22:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.14289205 = 142.8921 BTC [-]
Mar 09 22:22:52 <Bowjob>	holy shi
Mar 09 22:22:52 <Bowjob>	t
Mar 09 22:22:52 <mjr_>	;;calc 239+213+188+165+143
Mar 09 22:22:52 <gribble>	948
Mar 09 22:22:52 <benkay>	;;calc 948*47.8
Mar 09 22:22:52 <gribble>	45314.4
Mar 09 22:22:52 <mjr_>	almost 2k bitcoins
Mar 09 22:22:52 <pizzaman1337>	every time the bot puts up more blocks they're taken out
Mar 09 22:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	ddos
Mar 09 22:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	v2.0
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Mar 09 22:23:47 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu: i have to imagine that your bot buys them as part of a hedging strategy
Mar 09 22:23:51 <Namworld>	Who's selling that amount of puts...
Mar 09 22:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe bot is just marketmaking
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Mar 09 22:24:53 <mod6>	sorry guys, just a few more tests..
Mar 09 22:25:09 <mjr_>	no worries...to be honest, i think you can just turn off showing joins and parts
Mar 09 22:25:30 <mjr_>	i know you can in colloquy, but not sure about MIRC
Mar 09 22:25:50 <kakobrekla>	but thats like turning off 1 satoshi txes
Mar 09 22:26:01 <kakobrekla>	u dont do dat.
Mar 09 22:26:08 <mjr_>	no i didn't mean you
Mar 09 22:26:17 <pizzaman1337>	in order for that person to "cash out" they need to buy puts back, right?
Mar 09 22:26:18 <mjr_>	i meant you can send them, but i can not display them
Mar 09 22:26:28 <mjr_>	no
Mar 09 22:26:28 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 yes, or they autoexercise at month end
Mar 09 22:26:33 <mjr_>	yes true
Mar 09 22:26:50 <pizzaman1337>	and what exactly happens when they autoexercise?
Mar 09 22:27:04 <mjr_>	do they always autoexercise?
Mar 09 22:27:15 <mjr_>	thought they would only do that if they are in the money
Mar 09 22:27:34 <mjr_>	they probably will just expire worthless
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Mar 09 22:27:37 <BitOTTer86>	$vwap
Mar 09 22:27:38 <mpexbot>	BitOTTer86: http://pastebin.com/KnN9A22z
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Mar 09 22:27:43 <benkay>	/msg mirceau_popescu
Mar 09 22:27:49 <benkay>	wtb
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Mar 09 22:28:13 <pizzaman1337>	but if they expire worthless, than means they made pure profit because they don't have to buy back worthless options?
Mar 09 22:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ well, if they're not in the money they just dissapear
Mar 09 22:28:28 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 yes
Mar 09 22:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	if btc goes to like 55 and stays htere, all the btc he got selling he keeps
Mar 09 22:28:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [+]
Mar 09 22:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	if btc goes to 40, he's on the hook for the difference
Mar 09 22:29:06 <pizzaman1337>	what if the diff is greater than the amount of money he has?
Mar 09 22:29:31 <mjr_>	you technically expose yourself to unlimited liability when you write options (at least calls)
Mar 09 22:30:05 <mjr_>	but usually you have to have something to back against the most likely scenario
Mar 09 22:31:04 <mjr_>	thats why i was wondering the specific collateral requirements
Mar 09 22:31:51 <Namworld>	With a call, you need to put up 1 BTC collateral so it's always 100% covered
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Mar 09 22:32:10 <mjr_>	but for puts
Mar 09 22:32:17 <mjr_>	it varies doesn't it?
Mar 09 22:32:48 <Namworld>	For calls, their value tends toward 1. For puts tho, their value tends toward the infinite.
Mar 09 22:33:11 <mjr_>	hmmm yes when writing them
Mar 09 22:33:14 <Namworld>	For example, if price becomes 1/1000 of the put's strike, the put would be worth 1000 BTC
Mar 09 22:33:29 <Namworld>	If it goes to a lower fraction, even more.
Mar 09 22:33:32 <mjr_>	i know
Mar 09 22:33:46 <mjr_>	my point is that since you COULD be on the hook for millions of bitcoins
Mar 09 22:33:59 <benkay>	at most 21
Mar 09 22:33:59 <mjr_>	how many are required
Mar 09 22:34:04 <Namworld>	They're not fully covered. It would require infinite BTC.
Mar 09 22:34:09 <mjr_>	yes
Mar 09 22:34:17 <mjr_>	but what is the capital requirement
Mar 09 22:34:33 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 it can't be, cause he deposits collateral
Mar 09 22:34:55 <Namworld>	It varies depending on strike and current rate/BTC
Mar 09 22:35:11 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld they are fully covered, since you do put up enough btc to cover for the put in usd atthe time you write it
Mar 09 22:35:22 <mircea_popescu>	you put up a little more, which pays for insurance.
Mar 09 22:36:09 <mjr_>	just for example...let's say the vwap hits $100
Mar 09 22:36:17 <mjr_>	and you sold puts at $50
Mar 09 22:36:38 <mjr_>	wait reverse that lol
Mar 09 22:36:56 <Chaang-Noi>	;;48.5
Mar 09 22:36:56 <gribble>	Error: "48.5" is not a valid command.
Mar 09 22:37:01 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 48.5
Mar 09 22:37:01 <gribble>	There are currently 17873.054 bitcoins offered at or under 48.5 USD, worth 863731.319966 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.7354 seconds
Mar 09 22:37:12 <Chaang-Noi>	massive wall up
Mar 09 22:37:33 <kakobrekla>	maybe from the sam guy who sold the puts
Mar 09 22:37:38 <kakobrekla>	now to be removed
Mar 09 22:37:40 <kakobrekla>	konspiraci
Mar 09 22:38:11 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: I think I understand it all, thanks. I'll have to give it a shot sometime.
Mar 09 22:38:14 <mjr_>	so anyway, let's say the vwap is 50 and you sell puts at 50, the price drops to 25
Mar 09 22:38:18 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: but wouldln't that person want the price to increase?
Mar 09 22:38:39 <kakobrekla>	yes pizzaman1337, 04:37.38 ( kakobrekla ) now to be removed
Mar 09 22:38:44 <kakobrekla>	the ask wall.
Mar 09 22:38:57 <pizzaman1337>	ah
Mar 09 22:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	konspiraci!
Mar 09 22:38:58 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 09 22:39:25 <mjr_>	each contract would be liable for 2 bitcoins right?
Mar 09 22:40:32 <Namworld>	hmm, 1 BTC actually
Mar 09 22:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Mar 09 22:41:00 <Namworld>	AActually in my example earlier, I think it should have been 999 BTC
Mar 09 22:41:18 <Namworld>	1/(x-1)
Mar 09 22:41:47 <Namworld>	you get your fraction with x and remove 1 to that.
Mar 09 22:41:59 <Namworld>	Since at strike value, the put has 0 value.
Mar 09 22:42:08 <mjr_>	yeah
Mar 09 22:42:59 <mjr_>	my point is just this...if you sold the put, and the price goes up 10x
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Mar 09 22:43:39 <Namworld>	put is worth 0 so 0 collateral is eaten.
Mar 09 22:43:44 <mjr_>	yes
Mar 09 22:43:52 <mjr_>	but if it drops to 0
Mar 09 22:44:04 <Namworld>	You have infinity BTC value
Mar 09 22:44:11 <mjr_>	i think i see what mircea was saying
Mar 09 22:44:19 <Namworld>	So you must pay an infinity of worthless BTC...
Mar 09 22:44:19 <jborkl>	you can only write covered options, no naked
Mar 09 22:44:30 <mjr_>	yes exactly
Mar 09 22:44:37 <pizzaman1337>	"You don't hold enough assets to trade even one single unit of that MPSIC. Sad, sad, sad." < lulz
Mar 09 22:44:54 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 09 22:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	fortunately because btc is small and fiart is large it is kinda trivial for me to insure against that
Mar 09 22:45:30 <mjr_>	yes
Mar 09 22:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	so if btc goes to zero outstanding puts just get setrtled in fiat
Mar 09 22:45:35 <mircea_popescu>	and that's that.
Mar 09 22:45:47 <mjr_>	yeah
Mar 09 22:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	anyway if btc is zero nobody would want to be settled in btc
Mar 09 22:46:02 <Namworld>	except you pay infinity x 0 USD per BTC...
Mar 09 22:46:47 <mjr_>	i am going to do some exploring on a pairs strategy
Mar 09 22:46:51 <Namworld>	if the price is 0.01 and strike is 1, you pay 99 BTC at 0.01 cent each...
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Mar 09 22:47:20 <Namworld>	The lower the price goes, the more you owe. But the less the BTC costs to cover those larger BTC amounts.
Mar 09 22:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	basically a p500 can never cost more than 50 bucks
Mar 09 22:48:35 <mircea_popescu>	whatever that comes to
Mar 09 22:49:35 <mjr_>	although that is true...
Mar 09 22:49:48 <mjr_>	technically if you need btc in order to unwind your position
Mar 09 22:49:57 <mjr_>	and have to buy it on the open market
Mar 09 22:50:11 <mjr_>	someone would have to sell it
Mar 09 22:50:26 <mjr_>	and if you are obligated to buy a lot
Mar 09 22:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	price goes up and put is no longer under water
Mar 09 22:50:36 <mjr_>	you could be pushing the price up
Mar 09 22:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	it's a self limiting issue
Mar 09 22:50:43 <mjr_>	yep
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Mar 09 22:51:06 <bgupta>	!help
Mar 09 22:51:07 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 09 22:51:08 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 09 22:51:09 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 09 22:52:10 <mjr_>	i was going to say that the other possibility is that you can cover the position very easily with another option
Mar 09 22:52:24 <mjr_>	if you sell one call for every put
Mar 09 22:53:11 <mjr_>	i meant buy a call for each put sold
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Mar 09 22:54:53 <BitOTTer501>	$depth
Mar 09 22:54:57 <mpexbot>	BitOTTer501: http://pastebin.com/gV101v9A
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Mar 09 22:55:11 <mod6>	hmm, ok well anyway, it works, kinda.
Mar 09 22:55:20 <mod6>	needs more work, but gotta run for now lol
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Mar 09 22:58:03 <mjr_>	i was just looking at the last one, really great job mod6
Mar 09 22:59:09 <bgupta>	Hey is it ontopic to discuss pricing of bitcoin denominates securities in this channel?
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Mar 09 22:59:44 <bgupta>	mostly wondering about ASICMINER share and their passthrough derivates.
Mar 09 23:00:47 <mjr_>	lol its all we talk about really
Mar 09 23:01:06 <bgupta>	excellent!!
Mar 09 23:01:06 <dub>	 that and porn
Mar 09 23:01:21 <mod6>	wow, thx mjr_ :}
Mar 09 23:01:28 <mjr_>	bitcoin is finance porn
Mar 09 23:01:52 <benkay>	bitcoin is disruptive tech porn
Mar 09 23:01:57 <mjr_>	mod6: no prob, it is really really cool
Mar 09 23:01:59 <mod6>	so, I cleaned up the dir a bit on github, got rid of bitotter_vwap.pl and bitotter_depth.pl and its merged into this now: https://github.com/modsix/bitotter_perl/blob/master/bitotter_market_data.pl
Mar 09 23:02:00 <bgupta>	totally
Mar 09 23:02:02 <benkay>	but yes, that too
Mar 09 23:02:29 <mod6>	right on heheh. its awesome just to see it work, kinda lol
Mar 09 23:03:01 <mjr_>	whats interesting is that we are sending our GET requests via irc
Mar 09 23:03:20 <mjr_>	and retrieving a dynamic web page at a different address
Mar 09 23:03:25 <mjr_>	i think that is really cool
Mar 09 23:03:28 <mod6>	oh, so the bummer so far is... i maybe shouldn't have done a commit in there and had left those files to be still able to interface with mpex or a proxy in a way thats outward facing... if that ever happens again
Mar 09 23:03:39 <mod6>	cause with that, it was still tor capable
Mar 09 23:04:04 <mod6>	so i'll probably just re-introduce those files if/when that happens so tor may be utililzed
Mar 09 23:04:41 <bgupta>	so back when btw rallied from zero to about 10 it caught my attention… and I made a decision to invest in gnu mining gear. by the time I got my gear up and running it had spiked up to to 30+ and then crashed… I ran my rigs at a loss for almost a year, but when the algorithm changed, I decided that investing the wrk to reprogram them was a loser and shut it all down.. I managed to hang onto a minuscule 500 b
Mar 09 23:04:42 <bgupta>	though..
Mar 09 23:04:47 <mjr_>	i kinda thought that maybe you could host the website on tor with no order functionality
Mar 09 23:05:18 <mod6>	anyway, just thought yall should know what was happening.
Mar 09 23:05:24 <bgupta>	held it fallow for the past year or so… but the recent spike in price got me wondering if spinning up made sense (I decided no since the a sic stuff is imminent)
Mar 09 23:05:25 <mod6>	mjr_: that is pretty neat-o huh :)
Mar 09 23:05:39 <mjr_>	well
Mar 09 23:05:50 <mjr_>	do you get cheap electricity bgupta?
Mar 09 23:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 tor is coming i think.
Mar 09 23:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta btw = btc, gnu = gpu ?
Mar 09 23:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	and when did the algo change ?!
Mar 09 23:06:57 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu: also i can host a mirror if you like...it will be pretty tough for them to take out a GAE instance
Mar 09 23:06:57 <mod6>	ok, i'll reintroduce those files with needed changes as that approches. that'll be awesome
Mar 09 23:07:02 <bgupta>	In the past no, unfortunately…. now… I have a partner willing to pay electricity if I provide hardware and we split proceeds 50/50.. I think it's a loser for him though.. mircea_popescu yes sorry not reading what I am typing..
Mar 09 23:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ they already have, three times. and amazon x2
Mar 09 23:07:27 <mod6>	i have basically only accessed mpex over tor since you moved it all over to that early last year
Mar 09 23:07:30 <mod6>	its always been fast for me
Mar 09 23:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	if by hardware you mean gpus bgupta it's a loser for him. and prolly for you too.
Mar 09 23:08:24 <mjr_>	well...not really for him, if he alrady has the hardware
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Mar 09 23:08:30 <bgupta>	well… they are paid for… so not really
Mar 09 23:08:38 <mjr_>	he will just get to keep half of the small number of bitcoins he gets
Mar 09 23:09:10 <bgupta>	the loss will be a day of my time figuring out how to setup the softare
Mar 09 23:09:17 <mod6>	any amt of satoshi will be signifigant eventually
Mar 09 23:09:22 <mjr_>	i thought you already had it running?
Mar 09 23:10:19 <mjr_>	i am debating installing visual studio 2012 on my home computer
Mar 09 23:10:20 <bgupta>	I had it running was paying way to much for hosting in a real datacenter.. so shut it down last april when they changed the algorithm,,
Mar 09 23:10:33 <mjr_>	what do you mean changed the algorithm?
Mar 09 23:10:48 <mjr_>	if you mean when the pay rate halved
Mar 09 23:10:53 <bgupta>	mmm… existing miners had to upgrade the software..
Mar 09 23:10:56 <bgupta>	no
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Mar 09 23:11:09 <bgupta>	let me see if i can find the deets
Mar 09 23:11:23 <mjr_>	upgrading version?
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Mar 09 23:12:05 <bgupta>	yeah bitcoind changed… and all pools and miners had to upgrade
Mar 09 23:12:43 <Chaang-Noi>	network is mining blocks like crazy
Mar 09 23:13:02 <bgupta>	my pool at the time didn't upgrade and shutdown.. and since I was losing close to 50% at the time (due to the ridiculously low price of btw at the time) I followed them
Mar 09 23:13:25 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker m.dice
Mar 09 23:13:26 <assbot>	Have you got any tobacco?
Mar 09 23:13:39 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker s m.dice
Mar 09 23:13:39 <assbot>	You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
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Mar 09 23:13:54 <bgupta>	I probably mined close to 10k coins while I had my rigs up.. but only managed to walk away with 500 btw after all was said and done..
Mar 09 23:13:57 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 09 23:13:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00549999 / 0.0055 (1650 shares, 9.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00558182 / 0.006225 (392080 shares, 2,188.52 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616213 / 0.0069 (3732757 shares, 23,001.76 BTC)
Mar 09 23:14:11 <bgupta>	err btc not btw
Mar 09 23:14:21 <bgupta>	don'w know why I keep doing the same type
Mar 09 23:14:23 <bgupta>	typo
Mar 09 23:14:39 <Bowjob>	mhm. what will happen to SR when mt gox stops their service to NA
Mar 09 23:14:48 <bgupta>	SR?
Mar 09 23:14:57 <bgupta>	Guessing NA is north america?
Mar 09 23:15:01 <Namworld>	Anywaym I'm out. Goodbye
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Mar 09 23:15:13 <bgupta>	goodnight
Mar 09 23:15:54 <bgupta>	Bowjob ^^
Mar 09 23:16:08 <bgupta>	ooooo
Mar 09 23:16:09 <Bowjob>	yea\
Mar 09 23:16:19 <bgupta>	SR is satoshi dice?
Mar 09 23:16:34 <pizzaman1337>	SR is silk road, SD is satoshi dice
Mar 09 23:16:38 <bgupta>	ahh...
Mar 09 23:16:38 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone here selling off some of their btc and buying something crazy? or are we all just holing untill $1000 plus?
Mar 09 23:16:53 <Bowjob>	bought ASICs
Mar 09 23:17:09 <dub>	Chaang-Noi: im thinking about turnign some asicminer into a truck
Mar 09 23:17:19 <bgupta>	I am willing to sell my premium domain for 4000 btc..
Mar 09 23:17:46 <Bowjob>	it better start with mt. and and with gox
Mar 09 23:17:46 <Bowjob>	if its that much
Mar 09 23:17:46 <dub>	whats the domain
Mar 09 23:17:46 <bgupta>	nah just vj.com
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Mar 09 23:17:59 <Chaang-Noi>	dub i did that already, traded my car in and got a truck
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Mar 09 23:21:54 <bgupta>	If it was USD I'd want a bit more, but it is a digital only transaction, so I'm willing to do it for a little less
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Mar 09 23:21:54 <bgupta>	unfortunately the folks that would be interested don't deal in btc
Mar 09 23:21:54 <bgupta>	Quick question in the flow… Are BitFunder, btct.co and apex the main securities exchanges ATM?
Mar 09 23:21:54 <Chaang-Noi>	how much did you buy that site for?
Mar 09 23:21:54 <bgupta>	$0… registered it before they charged for registering domains..
Mar 09 23:21:54 <Chaang-Noi>	cool, why not get more then?
Mar 09 23:21:54 <bgupta>	been paying whatever a year for the standard domain registration..
Mar 09 23:21:54 <Chaang-Noi>	im sure its a good name but you are going to have to hit the right people to get that much out of it
Mar 09 23:21:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess it is reasonable though
Mar 09 23:21:54 <bgupta>	well I had it appraised for $250,000.. but to sell it, i'd need to put a lot of time into adverttising, and likely need to retain a domain broker.. and then take a huge hit on taxes..
Mar 09 23:21:55 <bgupta>	realistically if I tried I could probably pocket close to $200,000
Mar 09 23:22:10 <bgupta>	It's the most valuable thing I own, and it goes up about 7% a year in value
Mar 09 23:22:18 <bgupta>	(Well other than my apt)
Mar 09 23:22:51 <mjr_>	my friend who owns an it consulting company said that that is his biggest regret
Mar 09 23:22:53 <bgupta>	It's a fallow asset..
Mar 09 23:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta mpex is, yes.
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Mar 09 23:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	and wth, it boggles that anyone'd pay 200k for a domain.
Mar 09 23:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	i certainly wouldn't.
Mar 09 23:23:39 <bgupta>	well not an individual for sure..
Mar 09 23:23:47 <mjr_>	companies
Mar 09 23:23:50 <bgupta>	think startup or large company
Mar 09 23:23:54 <pizzaman1337>	with tons of users
Mar 09 23:24:02 <mjr_>	200k is not much for a big company
Mar 09 23:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	that's besides thew point.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	200k isn'r much for me, either
Mar 09 23:27:12 <bgupta>	they don't even allow people to register two letter domains any more.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	but it is very much for a domain
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	which is what we're discussing.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mjr_>	i meant as part of a budget involving web presence
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	even so.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <bgupta>	memorable domains are getting harder to come by...
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mjr_>	that is a scarce resource
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	eh get out
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	it never was scarce, it's never gettingscarce.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mjr_>	when i was looking into getting a domain name for my site
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mjr_>	huh?
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	seriously.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <benkay>	ad buys are made by advertisers
Mar 09 23:27:12 <benkay>	they don't think like that
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mjr_>	it is hard to get a one word domain
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	ya, they think like stupid.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	no "memorable domain" has a site worth anything on it.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	all the good sites are on new names
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	google
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	twitter
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	mpex
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <bgupta>	amazon
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mjr_>	and getting those domains
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mjr_>	would be expensive
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	amazon is only memorable because of amazon
Mar 09 23:27:12 <benkay>	coca cola's ad company isn't smart enough for that shit
Mar 09 23:27:12 <Chaang-Noi>	i hold tygrr.com and bitcoins.lc    not really worth a whole lot.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <benkay>	they're herd followers
Mar 09 23:27:12 <benkay>	worse than traders
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mjr_>	i got btcshares.com
Mar 09 23:27:12 <Chaang-Noi>	and litecoin.me :)
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mjr_>	btc-etf.com
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	point in case : btc.com
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mjr_>	gone
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	did any of the large btc players bother with it ? nope.
Mar 09 23:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	well... whoopdedo. why not ?
Mar 09 23:27:14 <mjr_>	bitcoins are still very new
Mar 09 23:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	forget that.
Mar 09 23:27:24 <mjr_>	i bet that domain will be very valuable in the future
Mar 09 23:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	there's people in btc that can afford 200k for a domain.
Mar 09 23:27:35 <mjr_>	of course
Mar 09 23:27:43 <Chaang-Noi>	btc.com is a porn site oh lol
Mar 09 23:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	i bet it will be very valuable in the sense 10 bucks are very valuable.
Mar 09 23:27:47 <Chaang-Noi>	brain trust company
Mar 09 23:27:54 <benkay>	their capital is best put to work in profitable ventures
Mar 09 23:28:00 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 09 23:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi some bs wannabe japanese co.
Mar 09 23:28:06 <bgupta>	well we are a bit different in that we use irc and weirdly named forums for most of our info. we seek out knowledge
Mar 09 23:28:08 <dub>	btc.com is too generic, like dollar.com
Mar 09 23:28:19 <dub>	you don't want that for a brand
Mar 09 23:28:26 <mircea_popescu>	dub yet bitcoin.com was all the bruhaha
Mar 09 23:28:31 <bgupta>	yeah the problem with too generic is they aren't trademarkable.
Mar 09 23:28:51 <bgupta>	which means you can't build a company or a brand around them
Mar 09 23:28:58 <bgupta>	e.g business.com
Mar 09 23:29:07 <Chaang-Noi>	sex.com
Mar 09 23:29:25 <dub>	sex.com sold for $14mn in 2010
Mar 09 23:29:29 <bgupta>	http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/26/businesscom-sold-for-345-million/ look what it's being used of now
Mar 09 23:29:32 <Chaang-Noi>	pretty generic:)
Mar 09 23:29:45 <benkay>	wankery
Mar 09 23:29:47 <benkay>	lotteries
Mar 09 23:29:55 <dub>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name#Resale_of_domain_names
Mar 09 23:29:57 <mjr_>	i'm just saying
Mar 09 23:30:02 <benkay>	spend your energy on creating value
Mar 09 23:30:06 <dub>	insure.com for $16mn
Mar 09 23:30:08 <benkay>	capture a small fraction
Mar 09 23:30:12 <benkay>	don't wager with your life work
Mar 09 23:30:17 <mjr_>	typically we think of being creative
Mar 09 23:30:24 <dub>	man up and use it for a shock site tbh
Mar 09 23:30:30 <bgupta>	yeah.. I've been holding it, because one day when I do a startup, I want a unique domain name to do it with.
Mar 09 23:30:45 <mjr_>	but that is way harder for some people than just throwing money at stuff
Mar 09 23:30:49 <benkay>	lolwut
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Mar 09 23:31:06 <benkay>	that domain's taking up too much of your brainspace
Mar 09 23:31:06 <mjr_>	seriously
Mar 09 23:31:12 <benkay>	not you mjr_
Mar 09 23:31:15 <mjr_>	i know
Mar 09 23:31:28 <mjr_>	i am just saying that domains are valuable, cuz people want them
Mar 09 23:31:28 <benkay>	if you're wasting cycles on thinking about domains
Mar 09 23:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> sex.com sold for $14mn in 2010 << and it never generated 1mn of revenue in its entire lifetime
Mar 09 23:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta i simply don't believe the sort of bs
Mar 09 23:31:52 <benkay>	you're not going to be successful in running your own business
Mar 09 23:32:05 <Chaang-Noi>	sex.com made shit loads on money?
Mar 09 23:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	i am aware the domain name scam people are really working hard to make their coolaid credible
Mar 09 23:32:08 <Chaang-Noi>	of
Mar 09 23:32:09 <benkay>	not in a high-competition, high-growth, environment
Mar 09 23:32:14 <mjr_>	benkay: that is the point, most people do not want to own their own business
Mar 09 23:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	but a ny times blog hit is nothing in this discussion.
Mar 09 23:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	345mn didn't happen
Mar 09 23:32:25 <benkay>	i get it man, i get it
Mar 09 23:32:25 <bgupta>	The reality is google kinda made domain names less relevant.. that and the fact that browsers changed how they deal with stuff you type into the address bar.
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Mar 09 23:32:54 <benkay>	doesn't mean i don't think that putting it all on a specific slot on the fucking roulette table is a good idea
Mar 09 23:33:01 <dub>	yeah for most people google is the address bar
Mar 09 23:33:03 <benkay>	bgupta++
Mar 09 23:33:10 <benkay>	i infrequently type domains
Mar 09 23:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 09 23:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	the way to go is just invent a name and use that as your tm and domains
Mar 09 23:33:30 <benkay>	it's like gm <enter>
Mar 09 23:33:47 <dub>	yep, and remember bookmarks? lol
Mar 09 23:33:49 <benkay>	bi <enter>
Mar 09 23:34:07 <bgupta>	point is that if I worked really hard I could sell it for $200,000, or if I worked even harder, I could build a kick ass business with a cool domain name that's easy to type.. I have time for neither atm.
Mar 09 23:34:09 <benkay>	ca <arrow down> <arrow down> <enter>
Mar 09 23:34:24 <benkay>	aren't there things you'd enjoy working on more?
Mar 09 23:34:35 <benkay>	i mean
Mar 09 23:34:35 <bgupta>	if someone flush with btw wanted to take it off my hands I'd be cool.. but that's a side bar..
Mar 09 23:34:38 <benkay>	i'm tired of hustling
Mar 09 23:34:54 <benkay>	it's fucking nice to build stuff people value enough to cut checks for
Mar 09 23:35:02 <bgupta>	Yeah sure.. I run a LUG.. which I LOVE.
Mar 09 23:35:05 <dub>	its probably worht throwing a thread up about it
Mar 09 23:35:17 <benkay>	no sarcasm?
Mar 09 23:35:21 <bgupta>	I do OSS stuff, love that too
Mar 09 23:35:29 <benkay>	what's your profit center?
Mar 09 23:35:30 <dub>	the great thing about bitcoin is there is no shortage of idiots, some with too much money
Mar 09 23:35:40 <bgupta>	my profit center?
Mar 09 23:35:43 <benkay>	true of any market of a reasonable size
Mar 09 23:35:46 <benkay>	trivial conclusion
Mar 09 23:35:49 <mjr_>	dub: yep, the market fixes that situation
Mar 09 23:36:14 <bgupta>	I do consulting which is a brutal business.
Mar 09 23:36:14 <benkay>	meh
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Mar 09 23:36:25 <benkay>	what space?
Mar 09 23:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	<benkay> it's fucking nice to build stuff people value enough to cut checks for << this.
Mar 09 23:36:31 <bgupta>	cloud shit
Mar 09 23:36:53 <benkay>	how brutal?
Mar 09 23:37:33 <bgupta>	mmm.. to make a dollar you need to sell a body, brutal.. no real leverage, no real product.
Mar 09 23:37:58 <dub>	tis potentially a nice way for someone to cash out $200k of btc too
Mar 09 23:38:23 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: the best part is that everything i get checks for, i also learn new skills that multiply my rate
Mar 09 23:38:25 <bgupta>	dub what forum would I post it to if I wanted to pursue?
Mar 09 23:39:02 <dub>	bgupta: the bitcointalk market or auction forums
Mar 09 23:39:17 <bgupta>	benkay: I run a small consulting company.. it's not just me… so most of my time is spent doing business stuff not learning
Mar 09 23:39:34 <benkay>	i've seen that happen man
Mar 09 23:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	i've done plenty of consulting and it was always fun
Mar 09 23:39:41 <mircea_popescu>	what the heck.
Mar 09 23:39:47 <benkay>	i've never seen someone run the shop and still make commits
Mar 09 23:40:02 <benkay>	i love it
Mar 09 23:40:10 <Bowjob>	stupid parents took my piano away
Mar 09 23:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	"Japan needs to face up to reality, and take real steps to correct its mistakes... so as to prevent a further escalation,"
Mar 09 23:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	the chinese are about to bitchslap them
Mar 09 23:40:27 <bgupta>	The one thing I do like about it is the flexibility...
Mar 09 23:40:44 <benkay>	flex is nice
Mar 09 23:40:49 <benkay>	i get to bill anywhere i am
Mar 09 23:40:56 <benkay>	boss-folks like to see my face from time to time
Mar 09 23:41:01 <bgupta>	I get to pick my priorities..
Mar 09 23:41:09 <benkay>	but it's part of my mystique that i show up at the office kind of randomly
Mar 09 23:41:15 <bgupta>	been growing my lug and getting some pretty cool speakers..
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Mar 09 23:41:36 <benkay>	what's the appeal in the lug?
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Mar 09 23:41:53 <bgupta>	this is the next event: http://www.meetup.com/nylug-meetings/events/82181872/
Mar 09 23:42:00 <dub>	benkay: I had that at ibm, nobody (besides customers) had any clue what I did
Mar 09 23:42:15 <benkay>	big bluuuuue
Mar 09 23:42:20 <benkay>	corporate honky
Mar 09 23:42:22 <benkay>	;)
Mar 09 23:42:32 <bgupta>	and this is the one after: http://www.meetup.com/nylug-meetings/events/102722692/
Mar 09 23:42:53 <bgupta>	and even cooler this is the one after that: http://www.meetup.com/nylug-meetings/events/82181952/
Mar 09 23:43:09 <bgupta>	I get to onsite awesome folks to NYC to talk to a bunch of geeks
Mar 09 23:43:19 <benkay>	that is pretty neat
Mar 09 23:43:23 <bgupta>	s/onsite/invite/
Mar 09 23:43:31 <bgupta>	afk for 5 smoke..
Mar 09 23:43:38 <benkay>	that's a lot...
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Mar 09 23:45:08 <Bowjob>	btc crashing
Mar 09 23:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	lmao no way
Mar 09 23:45:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 09 23:45:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.30215, Best ask: 47.30587, Bid-ask spread: 0.00372, Last trade: 47.30215, 24 hour volume: 50842.40617608, 24 hour low: 43.60001, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.10288
Mar 09 23:45:23 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/
Mar 09 23:45:26 <Bowjob>	it was 46.60
Mar 09 23:45:26 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 09 23:45:41 <Bowjob>	by "crashing" i mean volatility
Mar 09 23:45:41 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 09 23:49:56 <bgupta>	always volitile
Mar 09 23:50:04 <bgupta>	nbd
Mar 09 23:50:50 <bgupta>	so the real reason I can into this channel was to ask what folks think about ASICMINER shares, and the passthrough variants.
Mar 09 23:51:35 <bgupta>	I perhaps overshared, and for that I apologize, I;m a bit too open that way.
Mar 09 23:52:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident jborkl
Mar 09 23:52:04 <gribble>	Nick 'jborkl', with hostmask 'jborkl!~jborkl_@unaffiliated/jborkl', is not identified.
Mar 09 23:52:09 <the-bucket-shop>	I've not looked at numbers for asicminer but I've met people at meet ups that seem to like it alot
Mar 09 23:52:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;get info jborkl
Mar 09 23:52:10 <gribble>	Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
Mar 09 23:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;getinfo jborkl
Mar 09 23:52:15 <gribble>	Error: "getinfo" is not a valid command.
Mar 09 23:52:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;gpginfo jborkl
Mar 09 23:52:22 <gribble>	Error: "gpginfo" is not a valid command.
Mar 09 23:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck
Mar 09 23:52:42 <dub>	;;ident jborkl
Mar 09 23:52:42 <gribble>	Nick 'jborkl', with hostmask 'jborkl!~jborkl_@unaffiliated/jborkl', is not identified.
Mar 09 23:52:52 <dub>	;;getrating jborkl
Mar 09 23:52:52 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Mar 09 23:53:06 <jborkl>	hmm, let me auth
Mar 09 23:53:08 <bgupta>	trying to value the shares, as they are starting to climb… faster than I can transfer btc out of mtgox (which is where has been my wallet for the past year.)
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Mar 09 23:53:25 <bgupta>	am I idented?
Mar 09 23:53:47 <bgupta>	I set that up ages ago… not sure if it's enabled
Mar 09 23:53:55 <dub>	;;ident bgupta
Mar 09 23:53:55 <gribble>	Nick 'bgupta', with hostmask 'bgupta!~bgupta@207-237-250-126.c3-0.80w-ubr1.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com', is not identified.
Mar 09 23:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.msg1605413#msg1605413 if you mean asicminer
Mar 09 23:55:27 <bgupta>	thanks for the link will read..
Mar 09 23:55:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01398 = 0.1398 BTC [+]
Mar 09 23:56:03 <jborkl>	;;ident jborkl_
Mar 09 23:56:04 <gribble>	Nick 'jborkl_', with hostmask 'jborkl_!~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl', is not identified.
Mar 09 23:56:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01599 BTC [+]
Mar 09 23:56:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 18 @ 0.01999 = 0.3598 BTC [+]
Mar 09 23:56:39 <bgupta>	so one thing I discovered is once the initial asicminer investors have been paid dividends drop by half.. since the real investors own half of the whole thing.
Mar 09 23:56:51 <jborkl>	;;ident jborkl
Mar 09 23:56:52 <gribble>	Nick 'jborkl', with hostmask 'jborkl!~jborkl_@unaffiliated/jborkl', is identified as user jborkl_, with GPG key id 3ABA925F1676E0DA, key fingerprint BEDA499D84B3F11FAC2C98C13ABA925F1676E0DA, and bitcoin address 1assBEfKxpuhv3HdYfQwf9h2TR43DwVke
Mar 09 23:57:21 <bgupta>	considering initial investors bought shares at ~0.1btc that should happen sooner than later
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Mar 09 23:58:06 <Bowjob>	Fuck
Mar 09 23:58:10 <Bowjob>	I'm mad
Mar 09 23:58:20 <Bowjob>	... stupid fucking parents taking my piano downstairs
Mar 09 23:58:22 <Bowjob>	bpjhwsipghsipfghipaefghiaef
Mar 10 00:00:20 <dub>	firstworldproblems
Mar 10 00:00:36 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Without asking you to divulge too much roughly what part of the world are you in?
Mar 10 00:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/274/bernard-hopkins-vs-tavoris-cloud-hopkins-to-win/
Mar 10 00:00:47 <dub>	lol
Mar 10 00:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	whoa hopkins won by like, 1
Mar 10 00:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta timisoara
Mar 10 00:01:11 <Bowjob>	i swear i have rage building right now
Mar 10 00:01:14 <Bowjob>	fuck
Mar 10 00:02:02 <bgupta>	very cool...
Mar 10 00:02:22 <bgupta>	Bowjob.. go deal.
Mar 10 00:02:30 <bgupta>	be sweet
Mar 10 00:04:25 <bgupta>	mircea: Is there a way to buy straight up shares of asicminer, without doing passthrough stuff?
Mar 10 00:04:37 <bgupta>	err: mircea_popescu ^^
Mar 10 00:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	no. they blew their mpex listing.
Mar 10 00:05:02 <bgupta>	what does that mean they "blew a listing"
Mar 10 00:05:16 <bgupta>	delisted?
Mar 10 00:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	nah, just, failed to list.
Mar 10 00:05:30 <bgupta>	blew their chance?
Mar 10 00:05:45 *	bgupta passed on the opportunity?
Mar 10 00:05:46 <Bowjob>	I feel so violated.. that piano is my personal one
Mar 10 00:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	think of it in these terms : company pops up, doesn't list on nyse, lists on pink sheets
Mar 10 00:05:55 <Bowjob>	theres a second piano downstairs that i do not care about
Mar 10 00:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	through a weird agreement they don't sign
Mar 10 00:05:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's a little lala
Mar 10 00:06:14 <bgupta>	ok..
Mar 10 00:06:41 <bgupta>	SO the muse thing that everyone bitches about the 30btc thing.. that's just a one time thing, no?
Mar 10 00:07:09 <dub>	Bowjob: 1%problems
Mar 10 00:07:11 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 10 00:07:12 <bgupta>	s//muse/mpex/
Mar 10 00:07:35 <bgupta>	ok.. that would make trading difficult for me if it was a trading cost.
Mar 10 00:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	"everyone". hm. it's more of a "everyone that's bitching about it is bitching about it".
Mar 10 00:07:38 <dub>	bgupta: there are lots of otc asicminer trades happening, check the auction forum
Mar 10 00:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	obviously those that don't bitch don't bitch.
Mar 10 00:08:16 <dub>	bgupta: friedcat (asicminer guy) is timely about transferring etc
Mar 10 00:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, there's a large assignment market in it too, otc.
Mar 10 00:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	well...large. 100s of btc or so
Mar 10 00:09:08 <bgupta>	err.. lot me clarify "everything that bitches" means "everyone that bitches about mpex"… I believe that's the biggest complaint. and I'm ok with it…
Mar 10 00:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	i thought the biggest complaint was that i'm not nice.
Mar 10 00:10:11 <bgupta>	I am ready to buy sink 300 some odd btw into asicminer.. these penny-ante exchanges aren't quite cutting it.
Mar 10 00:10:31 <bgupta>	ohh.. you are mpex?
Mar 10 00:10:47 <bgupta>	very cool. sorry for being oversharing.
Mar 10 00:11:15 <bgupta>	(Realising that 300 btw is penny-ante)
Mar 10 00:11:18 <bgupta>	btc
Mar 10 00:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	what's oversharing ?
Mar 10 00:11:39 <bgupta>	the sharing of internet complaints..
Mar 10 00:11:39 <Bowjob>	I'll warn them next time they try to pull this shit again, I will yell at them so that all the guests will hear it.
Mar 10 00:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol that's not a problem, the internet was born to kvetch
Mar 10 00:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. it's a gamble on multiple scores.
Mar 10 00:13:03 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: are your trades listed publicly? IE: do I need to buy in to see traffic?
Mar 10 00:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	nope. it streams here for one.
Mar 10 00:13:16 <bgupta>	fuck it's all a gamble
Mar 10 00:13:20 <bgupta>	opps
Mar 10 00:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	all the earlier excitement about the trading puts for instance
Mar 10 00:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	twitter.com/mpex1 or you could just follow the twitter.
Mar 10 00:13:45 <mircea_popescu>	there's also a rss but atm unavailable.
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Mar 10 00:15:04 <bgupta>	Ohhhh… was gonna ask what these things are..
Mar 10 00:15:15 *	bgupta realized they are derivatives not securities
Mar 10 00:15:37 <bgupta>	me hates me some derivatives. (unless of course.. I am issuing them)
Mar 10 00:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	puts for this month around 50usd/btc
Mar 10 00:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	you can issue, sure. ths person was selling short.
Mar 10 00:16:23 <bgupta>	mircea: I am looking for a "stock exchange"
Mar 10 00:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	mpex does shares, options, futures
Mar 10 00:16:44 <mircea_popescu>	the whole thing
Mar 10 00:17:01 <bgupta>	http://mpex.coinbr.com/ ??
Mar 10 00:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	techbnically speaking options are securities anyway
Mar 10 00:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	that;s a proxy.
Mar 10 00:17:22 <bgupta>	err Ok I like equity
Mar 10 00:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	currently dead.
Mar 10 00:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap
Mar 10 00:17:47 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/d6AS1y6d
Mar 10 00:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	there, that's a list of what traded past month
Mar 10 00:18:09 <bgupta>	JSON?
Mar 10 00:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Mar 10 00:18:12 <bgupta>	ok
Mar 10 00:18:43 <mircea_popescu>	grep S\. for shares
Mar 10 00:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	ie equity
Mar 10 00:19:20 <bgupta>	json is human readable.. but… I need to whip out cli shit to deal.. one moment.. (I'm slow)
Mar 10 00:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 10 00:20:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067638 / 0.00074998 / 0.00075 (89317 shares, 66.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074889 / 0.00078628 (10735832 shares, 8,040.01 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00068483 / 0.00078628 (58572634 shares, 40,112.83 BTC)
Mar 10 00:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 10 00:20:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00549999 / 0.0055 (1650 shares, 9.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00558182 / 0.006225 (392080 shares, 2,188.52 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616213 / 0.0069 (3732756 shares, 23,001.75 BTC)
Mar 10 00:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	there, that sorta thing
Mar 10 00:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Mar 10 00:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00174357 / 0.00197 (80200 shares, 139.83 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00178893 / 0.00197 (111808 shares, 200.02 BTC)
Mar 10 00:24:56 <bgupta>	gotcha… ok I have to admit, I think the shit futures/options/derivatives are gonna make a number of folks very rich, I wish we could leave all that baggage behind is in the fiat world. We don't need wall street and hedge funds and institutional folks to "help us along"
Mar 10 00:25:11 <bgupta>	brb
Mar 10 00:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	uhm
Mar 10 00:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	how do you expect btc to work without financial instruments.
Mar 10 00:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	just because your master stripped you naked and beat you with a whip doesn't mean there's no need for whips in this new state you're making "for freedom".
Mar 10 00:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	they have their utility.
Mar 10 00:31:18 <bgupta>	fair enough… they have their utility.
Mar 10 00:33:15 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/
Mar 10 00:33:21 <Bowjob>	some serious resistance this is
Mar 10 00:35:28 <bgupta>	meh… guessing price is gonna need to consolidate a bit.. before it can go up again
Mar 10 00:35:47 <bgupta>	could collapse too…
Mar 10 00:36:33 <bgupta>	it's had an amazing run… (I think it's not gonna collapse below 20 or so… but that's just me).. I think it has huge potential
Mar 10 00:36:57 <bgupta>	but
Mar 10 00:37:35 <bgupta>	I've starting thinking about things in btw… not USD… it's hard
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Mar 10 00:38:47 <bgupta>	how do i get post access on bitcointalk??
Mar 10 00:39:29 <bgupta>	I get "be odd on newbie: but that's %^&ing retarded.
Mar 10 00:39:35 <bgupta>	err ocd
Mar 10 00:40:15 <bgupta>	ok my typing has suffered tonight as I drank a bottle of manzanilla
Mar 10 00:40:44 <the-bucket-shop>	bgupta I think you make 5 posts on the newbie section
Mar 10 00:41:40 <bgupta>	the-bucket-shop: Like mods are retards x 5? <jk>
Mar 10 00:42:30 <bgupta>	hard to post there…
Mar 10 00:42:32 <the-bucket-shop>	no,  I would add +1 to each retard mod.  multiplying will put you way over
Mar 10 00:43:43 <bgupta>	ok now have posted two
Mar 10 00:45:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0056 BTC [-]
Mar 10 00:45:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0056 BTC [-]
Mar 10 00:45:53 <bgupta>	now post three
Mar 10 00:45:55 <the-bucket-shop>	you can skip the updates, try to keep this room on point
Mar 10 00:46:09 <bgupta>	sorry…
Mar 10 00:46:34 *	bgupta thought folks might want to read them.
Mar 10 00:47:24 <bgupta>	although (sidetracked now)… They probably don't
Mar 10 00:49:02 <Bowjob>	whats up with LTC
Mar 10 00:49:02 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 10 00:49:56 <the-bucket-shop>	problems in the litecoin community?  I don't follow the news there, but would love to hear complaints if any.
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Mar 10 01:00:49 <Bowjob>	;;eightball Will LTC crash?
Mar 10 01:00:49 <gribble>	The outlook is good.
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Mar 10 01:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 10 01:03:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.34445, Best ask: 47.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15555, Last trade: 47.50000, 24 hour volume: 51372.27442917, 24 hour low: 43.70101, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.15373
Mar 10 01:03:11 <bgupta>	ltc will go wonky one way or another when all the gnu miners drop out of btw and point at ltc.
Mar 10 01:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	ahh my huge roast is in the oven
Mar 10 01:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	huuuuuge
Mar 10 01:05:42 <bgupta>	roast what?
Mar 10 01:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	a 2lb pork chop
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Mar 10 01:08:33 <Bowjob>	;;eightball Will LTC rise in value?
Mar 10 01:08:33 <gribble>	_I_ don't know.
Mar 10 01:10:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.005884 = 2.942 BTC [+]
Mar 10 01:14:39 <ThickAsThieves>	bgupta, doesn't mining difficulty push coin value up with it?
Mar 10 01:15:07 <bgupta>	Bowjob.. a big chunk of BTC miners are gonna be mining LTC so...
Mar 10 01:15:32 <bgupta>	yes and no
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Mar 10 01:15:58 <bgupta>	supply and demand is what ultimately drives value
Mar 10 01:16:19 <bgupta>	demand just deals with one end of that equation.
Mar 10 01:16:53 <bgupta>	err difficulty just deals with one end of that equation.. and that's supply.
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Mar 10 01:19:08 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc has a use just in that you can play it against btc
Mar 10 01:19:21 <ThickAsThieves>	then you have litecoinglobal.com
Mar 10 01:19:35 <ThickAsThieves>	where there are btc and ltc-denominated assets
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Mar 10 01:20:06 <bgupta>	so I here
Mar 10 01:20:09 <bgupta>	hear
Mar 10 01:20:10 <ThickAsThieves>	as long as people mostly stay focused on 1 alt-coin, it will do well
Mar 10 01:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	aite boys and girls. laters!
Mar 10 01:20:22 <bgupta>	dev coins.
Mar 10 01:20:31 <bgupta>	are wack
Mar 10 01:20:34 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 10 01:20:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i was like dev coins what?
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Mar 10 01:21:56 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc/btc .00582
Mar 10 01:22:34 <bgupta>	btw is where I think it's at.. lite/name and all are wannabe. sorry for saying something unpopular in puplic. (If I am wrong I will say so)
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Mar 10 01:22:47 <bgupta>	arg btc not btw
Mar 10 01:23:02 <bgupta>	why do i keep typing that
Mar 10 01:23:03 <bgupta>	?
Mar 10 01:23:16 <bgupta>	don't answer please.
Mar 10 01:23:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i think btc is the primary, yes
Mar 10 01:23:32 <ThickAsThieves>	but there's a place for a secondary
Mar 10 01:28:31 <the-bucket-shop>	bgupta have you looked at xrp/ripple?
Mar 10 01:28:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8499 = 2.5497 BTC [-]
Mar 10 01:29:27 <bgupta>	xrp no, ripple, sorta (really confusing to me -- free coins to anyone that asks, if I understand.)?
Mar 10 01:32:45 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Mar 10 01:33:07 <the-bucket-shop>	they give out 40 k coins and it takes 500 to set up a trust relationship.
Mar 10 01:33:09 <ThickAsThieves>	xrp isn't supposed to be a currency
Mar 10 01:33:13 <ThickAsThieves>	so much as an IOU
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Mar 10 01:33:22 <ThickAsThieves>	if i understand it correctly...
Mar 10 01:33:41 <ThickAsThieves>	and the IOUs are managed through trust within the ripple system
Mar 10 01:34:02 <the-bucket-shop>	so you can trust 80 people for free.
Mar 10 01:34:10 <the-bucket-shop>	not sure why though...
Mar 10 01:36:51 <ThickAsThieves>	i think the point is,
Mar 10 01:37:01 <ThickAsThieves>	that you dont trust someone, unless you trust them
Mar 10 01:38:42 <the-bucket-shop>	I think you can trust someone that has a gateway pointing to real assets.
Mar 10 01:39:06 <the-bucket-shop>	even if you don' t trust them
Mar 10 01:39:20 <the-bucket-shop>	still trying to figure it out myself
Mar 10 01:40:47 <Ukto>	the-bucket-shop: but your shouldnt trust anyone
Mar 10 01:40:52 <Ukto>	except gateways
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Mar 10 01:55:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009989 BTC [-]
Mar 10 01:58:27 <gabridome>	 !ticker m s.dice
Mar 10 03:01:10 <gabridome>	!help
Mar 10 03:01:11 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 10 03:01:12 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 10 03:01:13 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
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Mar 10 03:02:32 <jborkl_>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 10 03:02:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00558929 / 0.005884 (2150 shares, 12.02 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.0055822 / 0.006225 (392580 shares, 2,191.46 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616209 / 0.0069 (3733256 shares, 23,004.69 BTC)
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Mar 10 03:06:34 <gabridome>	thank you jbork
Mar 10 03:08:03 <gabridome>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1018021/
Mar 10 03:08:04 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 10 03:08:06 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1018023/plain/
Mar 10 03:11:00 <benkay>	that's a weird thing to see go by
Mar 10 03:11:31 <benkay>	exchanging messages via link to encrypted text on public hosting
Mar 10 03:11:33 <benkay>	*shakes head*
Mar 10 03:12:07 <benkay>	i'm glad the internet still surprises me.
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Mar 10 03:15:19 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah wow
Mar 10 03:15:59 <benkay>	but at the same time, totes meh
Mar 10 03:16:11 <benkay>	because incremental improvements in a wide variety of things
Mar 10 03:16:25 <benkay>	world is amazing but also completely normal
Mar 10 03:16:28 <benkay>	*shrug*
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Mar 10 03:23:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.71 = 6.39 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 03:29:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1 @ 0.18829925 BTC [+]
Mar 10 03:34:00 <dub>	whats wrong with it?
Mar 10 03:34:14 <dub>	its not like there is such a thing as private hosting
Mar 10 03:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59999998 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 03:56:37 <benkay>	nothing wrong with it man
Mar 10 03:56:44 <benkay>	i judge no technology
Mar 10 03:57:09 <benkay>	it's a fascinating evolution
Mar 10 03:57:23 <benkay>	biological evolution is this long boring refined process
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Mar 10 03:57:49 <benkay>	technological evolution is this wacky, occasionally nearly step-changey curve
Mar 10 03:58:02 <benkay>	paste for exchange transmissions is like
Mar 10 03:58:05 <benkay>	dpaste*
Mar 10 03:58:26 <benkay>	excessive mating rituals
Mar 10 03:58:48 <benkay>	or something else silly that biological evolution barfed out randomly after a couple million years of random iteration
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Mar 10 04:06:10 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 49
Mar 10 04:06:30 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm?
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Mar 10 04:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.699999 = 10.2 BTC [-]
Mar 10 04:26:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.7 = 5.1 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 04:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.725 = 8.625 BTC [+]
Mar 10 04:35:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.7499 = 6.9996 BTC [+]
Mar 10 04:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.59999998 = 4.2 BTC [+]
Mar 10 04:39:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.59999999 = 1.2 BTC [+]
Mar 10 04:39:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.6 = 8.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 04:54:07 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc 26 cents
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Mar 10 05:11:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.71 = 2.13 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 05:18:47 <Rick__>	MPEx is still not ready?
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Mar 10 05:24:16 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 10 05:24:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.13381, Best ask: 47.48986, Bid-ask spread: 0.35605, Last trade: 47.08000, 24 hour volume: 47012.88078377, 24 hour low: 44.30000, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.37786
Mar 10 05:26:55 <benkay>	what do you mean ready?
Mar 10 05:28:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.225 = 0.9 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 05:32:49 <Rick__>	back
Mar 10 05:32:55 <Rick__>	back on line
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Mar 10 05:43:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 17 @ 0.00566 = 0.0962 BTC [-]
Mar 10 05:50:10 <dub>	Rick__: web is still down but you can trade via irc bots
Mar 10 05:50:17 <dub>	!help
Mar 10 05:50:17 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 10 05:50:18 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 10 05:50:19 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 10 05:50:20 <dub>	$help
Mar 10 05:50:20 <mpexbot>	dub: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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Mar 10 06:29:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.71 = 2.13 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 06:32:53 <Chaang-Noi>	nice how selling into a bid is still over .7 :)
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Mar 10 06:46:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01001 BTC [-]
Mar 10 06:47:24 <FabianB>	Rick__: are you using windows or a unix?
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Mar 10 07:11:13 <DeaDTerra>	!ticker S.DICE
Mar 10 07:11:13 <assbot>	Are you sure you have no tobacco?
Mar 10 07:11:23 <DeaDTerra>	!help
Mar 10 07:11:23 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 10 07:11:24 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 10 07:11:25 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 10 07:11:34 <DeaDTerra>	!ticker MPEX S.DICE
Mar 10 07:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.005884 / 0.005884 (500 shares, 2.94 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.0055822 / 0.006225 (392580 shares, 2,191.46 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616219 / 0.0069 (3724206 shares, 22,949.27 BTC)
Mar 10 07:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.6 = 9.6 BTC [+]
Mar 10 07:20:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.009 = 0.36 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 07:28:07 <FabianB>	$vwap
Mar 10 07:28:10 <mpexbot>	FabianB: http://pastebin.com/ap7QVrZe
Mar 10 07:37:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009989 BTC [-]
Mar 10 07:38:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01995 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 08:20:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.71 = 7.81 BTC [-]
Mar 10 08:20:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.7051 = 6.3459 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 08:32:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 17 @ 0.005635 = 0.0958 BTC [-]
Mar 10 08:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 08:39:02 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 10 08:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [+]
Mar 10 08:39:04 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 40.86787592 / 49.80381297 / 50.5311083 (no shares, 17,228.61 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 10 08:39:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 10 08:39:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.28030, Best ask: 47.30009, Bid-ask spread: 0.01979, Last trade: 47.30009, 24 hour volume: 38523.58082220, 24 hour low: 44.30000, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.52796
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Mar 10 08:44:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.705 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 08:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	ok so : jurov's coinbr has been nuked too, for the 2nd time. working on maximian's idea atm, probably back online soon.
Mar 10 08:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	3rd generation, here we come.
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Mar 10 08:55:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 99 @ 0.000725 = 0.0718 BTC [+]
Mar 10 08:56:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 38 @ 0.000725 = 0.0276 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 09:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen ineedausername
Mar 10 09:05:22 <gribble>	I have not seen ineedausername.
Mar 10 09:11:41 <AndChat567216>	It's perhaps discussed already... but why not a MPEX proxy as TOR hidden service?
Mar 10 09:16:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [-]
Mar 10 09:18:02 <mircea_popescu>	AndChat567216 the concern is that may cause trouble to tor.
Mar 10 09:18:05 <mircea_popescu>	but it's being worked on
Mar 10 09:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 09:24:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 25 @ 0.00194 = 0.0485 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 09:50:12 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 10 09:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.005884 / 0.005884 (500 shares, 2.94 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00557643 / 0.006225 (387228 shares, 2,159.35 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616219 / 0.0069 (3723806 shares, 22,946.81 BTC)
Mar 10 09:50:45 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker m s.bbet
Mar 10 09:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00174357 / 0.00197 (80200 shares, 139.83 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00178893 / 0.00197 (111808 shares, 200.02 BTC)
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Mar 10 10:13:47 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 10 10:13:54 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225191 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 600 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 3 hours, 23 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4771864.53206 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.24908
Mar 10 10:15:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79899 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 10:19:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 10:22:09 <MJR__>	hi all
Mar 10 10:22:16 <Olive6767>	Hi all :)
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Mar 10 10:22:56 <MJR__>	!help
Mar 10 10:22:57 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 10 10:22:58 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 10 10:22:59 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
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Mar 10 10:23:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.75 = 2.25 BTC [-]
Mar 10 10:24:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009989 = 0.0499 BTC [-]
Mar 10 10:24:16 <FabianB>	[ANN] new release of my mpex client 0.4.2 with improved user experience to use mpex irc bots https://github.com/fawuxi/mpex/
Mar 10 10:24:37 <MJR__>	;;ticker m s.dice
Mar 10 10:24:37 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Mar 10 10:25:13 <MJR__>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 10 10:25:15 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.005884 / 0.005884 (500 shares, 2.94 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00557643 / 0.006225 (387228 shares, 2,159.35 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616219 / 0.0069 (3723806 shares, 22,946.81 BTC)
Mar 10 10:25:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.345 = 1.725 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 10:36:36 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Mar 10 10:36:42 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc at 30 cents
Mar 10 10:36:44 <Chaang-Noi>	morning
Mar 10 10:36:52 <kakobrekla>	how much was yesterday?
Mar 10 10:36:56 <Chaang-Noi>	23 cents
Mar 10 10:36:59 <Chaang-Noi>	or 21
Mar 10 10:37:00 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Mar 10 10:37:01 <Chaang-Noi>	hard to say
Mar 10 10:37:10 <kakobrekla>	what the vol there / depth?
Mar 10 10:37:12 <Chaang-Noi>	i hold a shit load of ltc so its all lulz to me
Mar 10 10:37:27 <Chaang-Noi>	3000 btc
Mar 10 10:37:27 <kakobrekla>	how much can you dump in btc worth
Mar 10 10:37:32 <kakobrekla>	aha
Mar 10 10:37:39 <kakobrekla>	that is not bad
Mar 10 10:37:46 <Chaang-Noi>	3000 btc is todays volume on btc-e the btc/ltc echange
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Mar 10 10:37:55 <Chaang-Noi>	but they has fiat too
Mar 10 10:37:57 <kakobrekla>	why would it be going up
Mar 10 10:37:58 <Chaang-Noi>	usd and ruibble
Mar 10 10:38:02 <kakobrekla>	its still same useless as yesterda
Mar 10 10:38:03 <kakobrekla>	y
Mar 10 10:38:06 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc was way under valued
Mar 10 10:38:16 <kakobrekla>	cause?
Mar 10 10:38:20 <Chaang-Noi>	the btc ratio is only .007ish and that is not even a high
Mar 10 10:38:42 <Chaang-Noi>	gpu pervz leaving in mass to ltc cuz money
Mar 10 10:38:51 <Chaang-Noi>	difficulty gouing to money, price following
Mar 10 10:39:00 <Chaang-Noi>	money = moon
Mar 10 10:39:03 <Chaang-Noi>	im drubnk sorry
Mar 10 10:39:06 <kakobrekla>	well
Mar 10 10:39:12 <kakobrekla>	if its going to resembe the other alt chanis
Mar 10 10:39:17 <kakobrekla>	it will be worth 0 in 2 months
Mar 10 10:39:26 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc has been here 1.5 yers
Mar 10 10:39:38 <Chaang-Noi>	and its not at a high to btc
Mar 10 10:39:39 <kakobrekla>	but noone to develop it
Mar 10 10:39:43 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 10 10:39:48 <kakobrekla>	what?
Mar 10 10:39:50 <Chaang-Noi>	trolling?
Mar 10 10:39:58 <kakobrekla>	dunno i read on the forums yesterday
Mar 10 10:40:03 <kakobrekla>	that the client is old ?
Mar 10 10:40:06 <Chaang-Noi>	you got trolled then
Mar 10 10:40:16 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 10 10:40:21 <Chaang-Noi>	the client is a few months old? so what?
Mar 10 10:40:29 <kakobrekla>	i have no clue man
Mar 10 10:40:32 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 10 10:40:59 <Chaang-Noi>	gpu miners in mass are flowing to ltc
Mar 10 10:41:06 <Chaang-Noi>	network getts stronger
Mar 10 10:41:10 <kakobrekla>	still dont see the advantages except for the obvious lower difficulty due to unpopularity
Mar 10 10:41:13 <Namworld>	How does this looks? http://www.namworld.net/pf/bitvps.com/openvz-vps
Mar 10 10:41:26 <kakobrekla>	can someone explain it to me?
Mar 10 10:41:29 <Namworld>	BitVPS new design in progress
Mar 10 10:41:56 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobrekla it is a true alt crypto coin, differnt code for mining, it is truly gpu
Mar 10 10:42:15 <Chaang-Noi>	the masses who supported btc now support ltc
Mar 10 10:42:31 <Chaang-Noi>	the btc elite with asics support btc
Mar 10 10:43:20 <Namworld>	It used to be truly CPU...
Mar 10 10:43:26 <Namworld>	It will end up with LTC asics
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Mar 10 10:46:13 <Chaaang-Noi>	i had fail
Mar 10 10:46:20 <Chaaang-Noi>	im going to shoot this computer with a shoot gun
Mar 10 10:46:53 <kakobrekla>	15:43.19 ( Namworld ) It used to be truly CPU...
Mar 10 10:46:54 <kakobrekla>	15:43.26 ( Namworld ) It will end up with LTC asics
Mar 10 10:46:56 <kakobrekla>	no point then
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Mar 10 10:48:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	if it will be good enough for asics then we will go sky high in the price
Mar 10 10:48:35 <Chaaang-Noi>	im okay with that
Mar 10 10:48:50 <kakobrekla>	https://btc-e.com/exchange/ltc_btc
Mar 10 10:48:55 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 10 10:48:58 <kakobrekla>	the way i see it price is going down
Mar 10 10:49:03 <Chaaang-Noi>	?
Mar 10 10:49:09 <Chaaang-Noi>	it was .002 a week ago?
Mar 10 10:49:13 <Chaaang-Noi>	it is .006 now
Mar 10 10:49:16 <kakobrekla>	a ok
Mar 10 10:49:18 <Chaaang-Noi>	how is that in anyway down?
Mar 10 10:49:27 <kakobrekla>	on the chart they show me
Mar 10 10:49:32 <kakobrekla>	the tendency is down
Mar 10 10:49:38 <Chaaang-Noi>	i just made it go crazy to .007 and there is some reaction
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Mar 10 10:49:45 <Chaaang-Noi>	that is like a 5 min chart
Mar 10 10:50:07 <kakobrekla>	its what they gave me
Mar 10 10:50:17 <Chaaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 10 10:50:24 <Chaaang-Noi>	looking at the line is silly
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Mar 10 10:50:36 <Chaaang-Noi>	you have to look at the details on the bottem and left ahnd
Mar 10 10:51:30 <kakobrekla>	meh
Mar 10 10:51:38 <kakobrekla>	im not convinced
Mar 10 10:52:28 <Chaaang-Noi>	ok
Mar 10 10:52:40 <Chaaang-Noi>	i have 200,000 ltc
Mar 10 10:52:52 <Chaaang-Noi>	i got in around .002 to .003 btc
Mar 10 10:52:56 <Chaaang-Noi>	im pretty damn happy
Mar 10 10:53:42 <kakobrekla>	dont forget to sell at 31
Mar 10 10:53:59 <Chaaang-Noi>	:) to what btc or fiat?
Mar 10 10:54:04 <Chaaang-Noi>	LX8VXosxLLfxM8NPeXTsJZ2po5xpKW5mHR   is one of my addresses
Mar 10 10:54:44 <Chaaang-Noi>	im not saying ltc is better than btc but it will be accept with btc and it is undervalued even now
Mar 10 10:54:46 <kakobrekla>	im suspecting ltc is in hypee bubble
Mar 10 10:55:14 <kakobrekla>	once ppl figure out 'oh i need to dump these into btc to use em for anything'
Mar 10 10:55:28 <kakobrekla>	they will drop back down to useless pricing
Mar 10 10:57:05 <Chaaang-Noi>	you forget ltc is not even at a high
Mar 10 10:57:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.725 = 1.45 BTC [-]
Mar 10 10:58:09 <Chaaang-Noi>	.0085 is the high
Mar 10 10:58:15 <Chaaang-Noi>	i think we will break that
Mar 10 10:58:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.164 = 0.328 BTC [+]
Mar 10 11:00:12 <kakobrekla>	Chaaang-Noi make a bitbet
Mar 10 11:00:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	?
Mar 10 11:00:41 <kakobrekla>	on the LTC price
Mar 10 11:00:49 <Chaaang-Noi>	how much are you going to pay me to use your site?
Mar 10 11:01:20 <kakobrekla>	>Your bet being funded means that BitBet will split a total pool of 0.1 BTC (or more) between the two sides of your proposed bet. Your own address will be linked to the smaller amount. This way you can earn BTC by proposing interesting, worthwhile new bets.
Mar 10 11:01:36 <Chaaang-Noi>	send me 10 btc and i will make a bet...
Mar 10 11:01:39 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 10 11:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.59999999 = 1.8 BTC [-]
Mar 10 11:02:15 <Chaaang-Noi>	i have 200k in ltc why in the fuck would i need to "make a bet" on your site?
Mar 10 11:02:36 <kakobrekla>	since you are conviced it going above the 0085
Mar 10 11:02:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72499 BTC [-]
Mar 10 11:02:42 <kakobrekla>	i thought you will take my money
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Mar 10 11:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.6 = 10.2 BTC [+]
Mar 10 11:03:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1688 BTC [+]
Mar 10 11:03:41 <Chaaang-Noi>	yeah i will take your 10 btc, do you want an address?
Mar 10 11:04:01 <kakobrekla>	i understand you are drunk, no worries.
Mar 10 11:04:59 <Chaaang-Noi>	go check out the 5 min chart
Mar 10 11:05:05 <Chaaang-Noi>	its way up[ :/
Mar 10 11:05:34 <Chaaang-Noi>	im going to lerave now cuz im drunk, but have a good one, peace :)
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Mar 10 11:05:45 <kakobrekla>	yeah a whole 2 btc depth
Mar 10 11:05:54 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Mar 10 11:06:07 <pigeons>	hah he was drunk. i didn't notice the difference
Mar 10 11:06:14 <kakobrekla>	:))
Mar 10 11:06:24 <kakobrekla>	maybe he was just making exsuses
Mar 10 11:07:46 <pigeons>	i know several people who switched from gpu mining to ltc because at the moment you make more, well of course all they're interested in is dumping it asap
Mar 10 11:08:15 <kakobrekla>	that happend like 5 times before
Mar 10 11:08:20 <kakobrekla>	with the alt chains
Mar 10 11:08:24 <kakobrekla>	and it lasted a week or two
Mar 10 11:08:32 <pigeons>	yeah
Mar 10 11:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499999 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 11:10:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll make an ltc bitbet
Mar 10 11:10:05 <ThickAsThieves>	and back it for a few btc
Mar 10 11:10:17 <ThickAsThieves>	what do you suggest
Mar 10 11:10:23 <kakobrekla>	i dunno
Mar 10 11:10:28 <kakobrekla>	lookin at the market now
Mar 10 11:10:35 <kakobrekla>	its shallow
Mar 10 11:10:57 <ThickAsThieves>	the way i see it, is if it's reasonable, and we publicize it, it'll bubble up to the amount
Mar 10 11:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.605 = 2.42 BTC [+]
Mar 10 11:11:15 <ThickAsThieves>	.01?
Mar 10 11:11:25 <kakobrekla>	maybe ltc will cross 0.01 btc and stay above for a week?
Mar 10 11:11:35 <kakobrekla>	in the next 30 days
Mar 10 11:11:44 <ThickAsThieves>	we not just reach .01?
Mar 10 11:12:01 <ThickAsThieves>	it just hit ,07
Mar 10 11:12:05 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe we should aim higher
Mar 10 11:12:06 <kakobrekla>	0.007 i see on btce
Mar 10 11:13:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00564 = 0.2256 BTC [+]
Mar 10 11:14:37 <ThickAsThieves>	still moving
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Mar 10 11:16:43 <ThickAsThieves>	it's nuts people just keep moving up their asks
Mar 10 11:17:10 <ThickAsThieves>	.734
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Mar 10 11:19:27 <kakobrekla>	yea
Mar 10 11:19:33 <kakobrekla>	maybe .1 is too low
Mar 10 11:19:40 <kakobrekla>	hard to say
Mar 10 11:20:12 <kakobrekla>	.15?
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Mar 10 11:24:32 <ThickAsThieves>	ok i submitted one
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Mar 10 11:24:42 <ThickAsThieves>	feel free to edit if you prefer
Mar 10 11:25:03 <kakobrekla>	cool, ill wait for the mods to do their job
Mar 10 11:25:20 <ThickAsThieves>	k
Mar 10 11:25:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i went with .02
Mar 10 11:25:38 <kakobrekla>	its just the way it goes - they dont code and i dont mess with the bets
Mar 10 11:25:47 <ThickAsThieves>	probly for the best
Mar 10 11:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499999 BTC [-]
Mar 10 11:26:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.72498 = 4.3499 BTC [-]
Mar 10 11:26:14 <deadweasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151470.msg1607522#msg1607522
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Mar 10 11:27:05 <jurov>	coinbr back online, we'll see for how long
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Mar 10 11:29:59 <deadweasel>	Chooser starting his own gambling/shares site?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151470.msg1607522#msg1607522
Mar 10 11:30:02 <ThickAsThieves>	is there someone i can bug to process manual withdrawals from BTCT/LTCglobal
Mar 10 11:30:03 <ZedsterX>	that's the spirit
Mar 10 11:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves burnside
Mar 10 11:30:27 <ThickAsThieves>	he's the only one :/
Mar 10 11:31:31 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc at .0785 alrdy
Mar 10 11:31:40 <ThickAsThieves>	oops
Mar 10 11:31:42 <ThickAsThieves>	.00785
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Mar 10 11:32:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc .00785 * 45
Mar 10 11:32:49 <gribble>	0.35325
Mar 10 11:32:53 <mircea_popescu>	heh srsly ?!
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Mar 10 11:33:07 <ThickAsThieves>	it went up 10% in 10min
Mar 10 11:33:32 <kakobrekla>	at this rate you gonna have to update that bitbet proposition soon
Mar 10 11:33:52 <kakobrekla>	or make another bet
Mar 10 11:34:00 <kakobrekla>	"ltc will be woth more than btc"
Mar 10 11:34:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm gonna get all the ltc kiddies betting on it
Mar 10 11:36:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 10 11:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	is there a ltc chart like bitcoincharts anywhere ?
Mar 10 11:36:21 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 10 11:36:25 <kakobrekla>	all i have i 5min chart
Mar 10 11:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol sux
Mar 10 11:37:00 <kakobrekla>	https://btc-e.com/exchange
Mar 10 11:37:04 <kakobrekla>	ltc/btc
Mar 10 11:37:15 <kakobrekla>	action realtime
Mar 10 11:37:31 <mircea_popescu>	i can't believe they dion't have a chart system
Mar 10 11:37:37 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.ltc-charts.com/period-charts.php?period=today&resolution=hour&pair=ltc-btc&market=btc-e
Mar 10 11:37:43 <ThickAsThieves>	its a little wonky
Mar 10 11:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Mar 10 11:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Mar 10 11:38:05 <ThickAsThieves>	np
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Mar 10 11:40:43 <ThickAsThieves>	rally is pulling back
Mar 10 11:41:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i sold 1050 ltc for 7.5btc :)
Mar 10 11:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	well done.
Mar 10 11:42:23 <ThickAsThieves>	wouldve been another 3000 if burnside did use Flintstone withdrawal method
Mar 10 11:42:32 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 10 11:42:39 <pigeons>	http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=2-days&resolution=hour&pair=ltc-btc&market=btc-e
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Mar 10 11:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 10 11:43:42 <ThickAsThieves>	same chart but for black people?
Mar 10 11:43:56 <pigeons>	yep, black is cooler
Mar 10 11:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol black is what the pros use!
Mar 10 11:44:25 <ThickAsThieves>	i have too many other windows that are white
Mar 10 11:44:35 <ThickAsThieves>	kills my eyes to flip back and forth
Mar 10 11:44:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess if i had more monitors i could set up some for charts
Mar 10 11:45:04 <ThickAsThieves>	but i still have a day job
Mar 10 11:45:06 <ThickAsThieves>	for now
Mar 10 11:45:18 <kakobrekla>	dump dat shit
Mar 10 11:45:25 <ThickAsThieves>	tough to,
Mar 10 11:45:31 <ThickAsThieves>	it's my own business
Mar 10 11:45:37 <ThickAsThieves>	and ive pared it down a lot
Mar 10 11:45:53 <ThickAsThieves>	but still serve about 60 websites and 25 clients as designer
Mar 10 11:46:01 <ThickAsThieves>	then some adwords account mgmt
Mar 10 11:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [+]
Mar 10 11:46:07 <kakobrekla>	you are a designer?
Mar 10 11:46:11 <ThickAsThieves>	yessir
Mar 10 11:46:18 <kakobrekla>	got a portfolio?
Mar 10 11:46:33 <pigeons>	why are there still designers? we have bootstrap
Mar 10 11:46:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i do mostly branding stuff
Mar 10 11:46:48 <ThickAsThieves>	web design occassionally
Mar 10 11:47:00 <ThickAsThieves>	my portfolio are all busted atm
Mar 10 11:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [-]
Mar 10 11:47:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i put up a new wordpress site that wasnt finished
Mar 10 11:47:33 <ThickAsThieves>	what kind of design are you looking for? i could dig up relavant samples
Mar 10 11:47:42 <Namworld>	lol... everybody use basic bootstrap only! A la GLBSE.
Mar 10 11:47:46 <ThickAsThieves>	relevant*
Mar 10 11:48:08 <Diablo-D3>	fucking bootstrap
Mar 10 11:48:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd rather see bootstrap than a lot of other shit
Mar 10 11:48:30 <mircea_popescu>	did you get your portofolio ddosed ?
Mar 10 11:48:34 <Namworld>	I prefer hand coded website
Mar 10 11:48:36 <Diablo-D3>	the newest version of foundation actually looks nice
Mar 10 11:48:44 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: isn't worth it anymore
Mar 10 11:48:46 <ThickAsThieves>	no, cuz i havent linked to it here yet mp
Mar 10 11:48:50 <Diablo-D3>	too many flakey devices that get css wrong
Mar 10 11:49:14 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc:)
Mar 10 11:49:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont do any programming other than tertiary stuff
Mar 10 11:49:25 <ThickAsThieves>	some server mgmt
Mar 10 11:49:33 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: you should
Mar 10 11:49:36 <Diablo-D3>	its good for you
Mar 10 11:49:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i know
Mar 10 11:49:39 <Diablo-D3>	teaches you how to think
Mar 10 11:49:45 <Namworld>	What? How would it not be worth it?
Mar 10 11:49:51 <ThickAsThieves>	i have so many projects already
Mar 10 11:49:55 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I just told you why
Mar 10 11:50:10 <ThickAsThieves>	ive been learning plenty
Mar 10 11:50:13 <Namworld>	That's not even a good reason.
Mar 10 11:50:18 <ThickAsThieves>	just not programming
Mar 10 11:50:38 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: if you want your website to look correct on every device ever, yes, it is a good reason
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Mar 10 11:51:02 <Namworld>	The same can be done manually...
Mar 10 11:51:12 <Diablo-D3>	yes, if you OWN every device ever
Mar 10 11:51:23 <Namworld>	Plus bootstrap doesn't support everything...
Mar 10 11:51:33 <Diablo-D3>	bootstrap supports everything worthwhile
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Mar 10 11:52:04 <ThickAsThieves>	oh geez
Mar 10 11:52:06 <Diablo-D3>	and supports a lot of older mobile browsers that really should just be tossed in the trash
Mar 10 11:52:17 <Namworld>	Same can be done manually...
Mar 10 11:52:24 <Diablo-D3>	not reliably
Mar 10 11:52:45 <Diablo-D3>	dude, I've written frameworks like bootstrap and foundation before, you haven't
Mar 10 11:52:50 <ThickAsThieves>	$vwap
Mar 10 11:52:52 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: http://pastebin.com/q5kdCh3m
Mar 10 11:52:59 <Diablo-D3>	its a pain in the fucking ass, and not worth wasting your time on
Mar 10 11:53:16 <Diablo-D3>	if a team wants to dedicate their shitty little lives to it, let them, it saves me the time of having to hit phones with hammers until they work
Mar 10 11:54:03 <ThickAsThieves>	and what are your feelings on Wordpress
Mar 10 11:54:07 <ThickAsThieves>	dare i ask
Mar 10 11:54:17 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: I fucking hate it and I'm seriously considering replacing mine with a static blog
Mar 10 11:54:49 <Diablo-D3>	do like some git cron job or something
Mar 10 11:54:58 <ThickAsThieves>	you hate it personally, and/or you think others shouldn't use it?
Mar 10 11:55:05 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: yes
Mar 10 11:55:09 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 10 11:55:14 <Diablo-D3>	Ive ran a wordpress blog for like 7 or 8 years now
Mar 10 11:55:20 <Diablo-D3>	it makes me hate php more and more
Mar 10 11:55:25 <ThickAsThieves>	like all my clients use it for their small biz sites
Mar 10 11:55:28 <ThickAsThieves>	so many hax
Mar 10 11:55:35 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: they shouldn't, its a security hazard
Mar 10 11:55:42 <ThickAsThieves>	i hate it now
Mar 10 11:55:46 <Diablo-D3>	this is why I run it on an isolated vps
Mar 10 11:55:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean i dont mind using it
Mar 10 11:55:51 <ThickAsThieves>	but all the hax
Mar 10 11:55:51 <Diablo-D3>	just so it can't fuck other shit up
Mar 10 11:55:56 <ThickAsThieves>	so hard to explain to a plumber
Mar 10 11:56:06 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: its easy to explain to a plumber
Mar 10 11:56:30 <Diablo-D3>	"wordpress is written in php, php makes it easy for you to write code wrong so hackers can come in and fuck your website up"
Mar 10 11:56:35 <Diablo-D3>	"but why would they do this?"
Mar 10 11:56:44 <Diablo-D3>	"because they're assholes, Bob, they're assholes"
Mar 10 11:56:47 <ThickAsThieves>	because its free
Mar 10 11:57:08 <ThickAsThieves>	his name is actually Bob, lol
Mar 10 11:57:14 <Diablo-D3>	plumbers are always named Bob
Mar 10 11:57:22 <Diablo-D3>	its a rule
Mar 10 11:57:42 <Diablo-D3>	if you name your kid bob, he will grow up to either be a plumber or an electrician
Mar 10 11:57:57 <ThickAsThieves>	What if you call him Robert
Mar 10 11:58:04 <Diablo-D3>	mass murderer
Mar 10 11:58:21 <ThickAsThieves>	Bert the mass murderer, yep
Mar 10 11:58:35 <Namworld>	...
Mar 10 11:59:18 <ThickAsThieves>	namworld is named Robert i guess
Mar 10 11:59:27 <Diablo-D3>	but yeah, storing your blog statically in git and then outsourcing the comments to a service
Mar 10 11:59:33 <Diablo-D3>	would really cut down on the bullshit
Mar 10 11:59:55 <ThickAsThieves>	clients want to edit their content in Word tho
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Mar 10 12:00:05 <pigeons>	lots of sites i dont realize they have comments cause they use javascript to display them from a 3rd party service
Mar 10 12:00:07 <Diablo-D3>	so? they can copy paste
Mar 10 12:00:28 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: er, except said 3rd party services email you on comment
Mar 10 12:00:33 <Diablo-D3>	which is REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING
Mar 10 12:00:52 <Diablo-D3>	unless they explicitly set it up as moderation, then thats fine
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Mar 10 12:01:06 <pigeons>	that's why i use your email address
Mar 10 12:01:24 <Diablo-D3>	lol but its gmail and gmail filters like a baus
Mar 10 12:03:11 <pigeons>	bwais
Mar 10 12:07:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 10 12:08:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 32 @ 0.00564 = 0.1805 BTC [+]
Mar 10 12:08:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00565 = 0.2825 BTC [+]
Mar 10 12:08:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.00567 = 1.701 BTC [+]
Mar 10 12:08:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.005709 = 0.0571 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 12:16:12 <Rick__>	Is MPEx back on line/
Mar 10 12:16:15 <Rick__>	?
Mar 10 12:16:29 <FabianB>	Rick__: still only here on irc
Mar 10 12:16:49 <Rick__>	when will it be back on line?
Mar 10 12:17:08 <Namworld>	No one can know... it's being DDoS'ed
Mar 10 12:17:30 <Namworld>	Whenever however is DDoS'ing it stops.
Mar 10 12:18:33 <smickles>	$ping
Mar 10 12:18:33 <mpexbot>	pong
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Mar 10 12:19:57 <Rick__>	mircea cant do anything with the "ddos"?
Mar 10 12:20:18 <Rick__>	what if the ddosing wont stop?
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Mar 10 12:20:50 <jurov>	i'm working on bringing mpex.coinbr.com onlinw with amazing powers
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Mar 10 12:20:57 <jurov>	hopefully others, too
Mar 10 12:21:41 <Rick__>	looking forword to have mpex.coinbr.com back
Mar 10 12:22:25 <Namworld>	Amazing amazonian powers?
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Mar 10 12:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ as i said, there;'s more hardware coming online, and meanwhile trading works through the bots
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Mar 10 12:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	have you been reading the forum updates ?
Mar 10 12:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	also possibly of interest to you, FabianB has released an equivalent of pympex capable of going through the irc bots
Mar 10 12:24:19 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: would you mind if '$vwap s.dice' returned what one might expect?
Mar 10 12:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	not at all
Mar 10 12:24:32 <smickles>	same with $depth s.dice
Mar 10 12:24:58 <smickles>	ooh, what's this FabianB thing?
Mar 10 12:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	https://github.com/fawuxi/mpex
Mar 10 12:25:26 <FabianB>	smickles: it's like pympex
Mar 10 12:25:47 <FabianB>	just a little smoother interface, more features and can talk to the irc bots
Mar 10 12:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	someone's gonna one day make a gui
Mar 10 12:25:59 <FabianB>	as alternative to the http api
Mar 10 12:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	smickles also of possible interest to you
Mar 10 12:27:44 <Namworld>	I want a GUI...
Mar 10 12:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 09 23:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla : can you make assbot ticker identifier to be hungry ?
Mar 10 12:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 09 23:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	such as !ticker m C600T
Mar 10 12:28:07 <pigeons>	did you turn normal during your time away from irc smickles?
Mar 10 12:28:30 <Rick__>	mircea,I can read English,but lots of computer things I dont understand,it's very diffcult for me
Mar 10 12:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ ok. basically, don't panic, we're working on it. even if ddos never stops.
Mar 10 12:29:26 <pigeons>	Rick__: do you need some trades executed now?
Mar 10 12:29:39 <Rick__>	nope
Mar 10 12:29:47 <Rick__>	just care about the website
Mar 10 12:30:16 <pigeons>	yes, we all cared about her, she's very pretty
Mar 10 12:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 10 12:30:27 <Rick__>	I invest hundreds of coin in it
Mar 10 12:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	for all the hate that website got, seriously.
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Mar 10 12:31:17 <Rick__>	so basicly,when will it be back on line?do you have a schedule?
Mar 10 12:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ do you understand how ddos works ?
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Mar 10 12:31:35 <Rick__>	nope,not at all
Mar 10 12:31:40 <mircea_popescu>	want me to explain ?
Mar 10 12:31:50 <FabianB>	problem with GUIs is that its majority of users are ms windows users
Mar 10 12:31:54 <Rick__>	If you thing I can understand
Mar 10 12:32:08 <Rick__>	think
Mar 10 12:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ ok lets see. suppose you have a shop somewhere. you make ok money selling things in your shop.
Mar 10 12:32:29 <Rick__>	yeah
Mar 10 12:32:30 <mircea_popescu>	one day a customer comes in and says "hi i want to buy a carrot".
Mar 10 12:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	your shop doesn't sell carrots. you tell him this. he leaves.
Mar 10 12:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	this is no big deal, really, mistakes happen.
Mar 10 12:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	the next day, 167`855`212 peopel come to your shop. each of them goes "hi i want to buy a carrot".
Mar 10 12:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	the queues reach as far as the next town
Mar 10 12:33:23 <mircea_popescu>	the police wants to fine you because your shop is blocking the traffic
Mar 10 12:33:28 <Rick__>	okay,that's making sence
Mar 10 12:33:31 <mircea_popescu>	what can you do ?
Mar 10 12:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	when will your shop be back taking normal orders ?
Mar 10 12:33:52 <Rick__>	shut the shop down?
Mar 10 12:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	well that's not very good is it ?
Mar 10 12:34:16 <Rick__>	yeah,want shot somebody!
Mar 10 12:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	hehe.
Mar 10 12:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	ok so, what you do is either make a much larger shop, or make the shop location secret, or both.
Mar 10 12:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	i am doing both. however, building a supermarket is not instantaneous.
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Mar 10 12:35:04 <Rick__>	so the carrot here,what exacly the hacker do ,
Mar 10 12:35:06 <Rick__>	okay
Mar 10 12:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	it should have been online by yest, but we ran into supplier problems. that's detailed here :
Mar 10 12:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1601667#msg1601667
Mar 10 12:35:48 <mircea_popescu>	read the messages from there on.
Mar 10 12:36:01 <Rick__>	okay,thank you very much
Mar 10 12:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	np.
Mar 10 12:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB hey, does opengl work on windoze ?
Mar 10 12:37:16 <pigeons>	yes
Mar 10 12:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	is there opengl gui lib for py/perl ?
Mar 10 12:38:19 <pigeons>	dunno, i've played with OGLE for capturing geometry
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Mar 10 12:38:46 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: probably, but opengl is good for games and maybe charts, but not so much for normal guis
Mar 10 12:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	o really ?!
Mar 10 12:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	why not ?
Mar 10 12:39:24 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: it's useful for 3D stuff etc.
Mar 10 12:39:42 <smickles>	FabianB: looks nice, and good thing to add the ability to go via IRC :)
Mar 10 12:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	i understand that, but i mean... if it can do that why couldn't it do some window boxes
Mar 10 12:40:06 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: did kako say he wasn't going to make assbot 'hungry'?
Mar 10 12:40:20 <FabianB>	sure you can, but it's easier to do GUIs with QT, GTK, Cocoa or Windows native stuff
Mar 10 12:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m P470T
Mar 10 12:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1D: 0.14289205 / 0.14375761 / 0.14485191 (5000 shares, 718.79 BTC), 7D: 0.14289205 / 0.14708052 / 0.18400178 (5450 shares, 801.59 BTC), 30D: 0.14289205 / 0.18072094 / 0.58814383 (5900 shares, 1,066.25 BTC)
Mar 10 12:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB a ok
Mar 10 12:40:43 <pigeons>	yes opengl doesn't have some of the same positioning microsoft's directx has, but opengl is ued on windows
Mar 10 12:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	i was just thinking one could make a single codebase that's then independently compilable by os
Mar 10 12:41:13 <FabianB>	qt and gtk are kinda cross OS too; packaging is some work though for windows
Mar 10 12:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	but maybe that isn't the best way
Mar 10 12:41:31 <jonny3>	!help
Mar 10 12:41:32 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 10 12:41:33 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 10 12:41:34 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 10 12:41:40 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: the code can be done in a single codebase, but not the packaging
Mar 10 12:42:04 <pigeons>	ncurses
Mar 10 12:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB well if you use win stuff for instance, that won't be compilable in linux
Mar 10 12:42:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol ncurses
Mar 10 12:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	if mpex gui ends up as a wine supported thing ima shoot myself
Mar 10 12:43:11 <pigeons>	yeah wine has a lib for exactly that, building cross-platform gui apps
Mar 10 12:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	somebody just mentioned it here :p
Mar 10 12:43:25 <smickles>	lol, opengl. Let's make a 3d gui for mpex. heh, or maybe something like a minecraft interface to mpex :D
Mar 10 12:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's why i said
Mar 10 12:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	smickles hey, didn't you have a minecraft server ?
Mar 10 12:44:16 <gabridome>	thank you mircea that was really illuminating:"the next day, 167`855`212 peopel come to your shop. each of them goes "hi i want to buy a carrot".
Mar 10 12:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	gabridome :p
Mar 10 12:44:55 <Namworld>	Well that's pretty much what a DDoS is.
Mar 10 12:44:57 <pigeons>	i could go for telnet to an mpex mud
Mar 10 12:44:58 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, i've got a minecraft server
Mar 10 12:45:10 <Namworld>	Except the people are mindless zombies controlled by a hacker.
Mar 10 12:45:19 <smickles>	well, it's tekkit, specifically
Mar 10 12:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what do you want to build a mpex hq on minecraft ?
Mar 10 12:45:32 <smickles>	and we'll probably move to feed the beast
Mar 10 12:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	complete with being able to put in orders ?
Mar 10 12:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons make it!
Mar 10 12:45:56 <smickles>	heh, could be fun
Mar 10 12:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	indeed lol
Mar 10 12:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	i might even try out minecraft for this
Mar 10 12:46:28 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i should have said "voters" shouldn't i have.
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Mar 10 12:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60399999 BTC [-]
Mar 10 12:48:08 <smickles>	the thing about minecraft mods is, text based ones are quick and easy, in-game gui ones are a bit tougher, and 'in-game in-game' ones take a lot of time
Mar 10 12:48:53 <smickles>	and a text one would be useless because it be like irc, but take longer open
Mar 10 12:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.604 = 2.416 BTC [+]
Mar 10 12:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499995 BTC [+]
Mar 10 12:50:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.72 = 2.88 BTC [-]
Mar 10 12:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's nothing but  fun side-project really
Mar 10 12:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	if you ever felt like getting into game-making this'd be a great in
Mar 10 12:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499997 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 12:53:18 <smickles>	I did make a minecraft market mod which allowed players to buy and sell items/blocks at prices based on server-wide demand
Mar 10 12:53:26 <FabianB>	well java would be cross platform too, but no-one likes java guis (both users and developers)
Mar 10 12:53:38 <smickles>	ugly things those are
Mar 10 12:53:42 <mircea_popescu>	java is evil.
Mar 10 12:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	BUT
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Mar 10 12:53:58 <mircea_popescu>	because of the way mpex works, the worst that can happen isn't really too bad at all
Mar 10 12:54:14 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 10 12:54:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.30807, Best ask: 47.39936, Bid-ask spread: 0.09129, Last trade: 47.40000, 24 hour volume: 33231.78608909, 24 hour low: 45.23481, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.88175
Mar 10 12:54:44 <mircea_popescu>	smickles "a lot of work" is it because you need art made ?
Mar 10 12:55:45 <smickles>	naw, minecraft art is simple stuff, the issue is fitting it into play in a way that makes sence
Mar 10 12:55:46 <FabianB>	and on top: GUIs attract people that need a lot of support; telling someone to type XY into a commandline is easy (can be copy/pasted); telling someone to first click on Y, type X and point the mouse to Z is cumbersome
Mar 10 12:55:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 499 @ 0.005884 = 2.9361 BTC [+]
Mar 10 12:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7176 @ 0.00588401 = 42.2237 BTC [+]
Mar 10 12:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9410 @ 0.00593938 = 55.8896 BTC [+]
Mar 10 12:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5415 @ 0.00598314 = 32.3987 BTC [+]
Mar 10 12:56:02 <smickles>	;;ident
Mar 10 12:56:02 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Mar 10 12:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB this is very true
Mar 10 12:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	gui is really a stupid way to interact with numeric machines, but hey.
Mar 10 12:56:42 <gabridome>	what about a javascript platform? security not enough?
Mar 10 12:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	gabridome security is not an issue really, because the messaging itself is encrypted
Mar 10 12:57:03 <FabianB>	gabridome: already exists: coinbr.com
Mar 10 12:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	the only concern is not losing the user's gpg keys
Mar 10 12:57:45 <gabridome>	I use WebPG
Mar 10 12:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	as long as it doesn't get cracked.
Mar 10 12:58:29 <smickles>	just make the gui look exactly like bitcoinica did
Mar 10 12:58:51 <smickles>	;;sell 20 btc @ 49.82 usd
Mar 10 12:58:52 <gribble>	Order id 13941 created.
Mar 10 12:59:03 <gabridome>	yeah. And there's also the esclamation point issue I couldn't deal with probably..
Mar 10 12:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 10 12:59:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35000, Best ask: 47.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 47.35000, 24 hour volume: 33191.53570187, 24 hour low: 45.23481, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.88337
Mar 10 12:59:18 <mircea_popescu>	aww i thought we're at 49.x
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Mar 10 13:00:34 <FabianB>	good thing i did the IRC extension, coz it made me implement the interactive mode; very nice to work with mpex in its own shell
Mar 10 13:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	i actually think there is a new business model being born here.
Mar 10 13:01:05 <gabridome>	is it easy to install ruby on Mac?
Mar 10 13:01:23 <mircea_popescu>	offer saas to mpex users : give them a fixed ip vps and handle support for mpex connectivity
Mar 10 13:01:25 <FabianB>	gabridome: it's shipped with mac, but old version and yes it's easy
Mar 10 13:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	charge whatever
Mar 10 13:01:59 <gabridome>	thanks. Will give it a try
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Mar 10 13:03:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00591 = 0.0296 BTC [+]
Mar 10 13:04:30 <Bowjob>	damn, litecoin
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Mar 10 13:06:56 <kakobrekla>	ThickAsThieves looks like its live http://bitbet.us/bet/297/litecoin-surges-to-02-bitcoins-per-litecoin/
Mar 10 13:07:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00591 = 0.0296 BTC [+]
Mar 10 13:10:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 62 @ 0.000725 = 0.045 BTC [+]
Mar 10 13:10:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000725 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 13:13:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
Mar 10 13:13:23 <gabridome>	coinbr.com looks like down. Is it?
Mar 10 13:13:41 <Bowjob>	litecoin at 35 cents
Mar 10 13:13:42 <Bowjob>	damn
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Mar 10 13:16:43 <ThickAsThieves>	still cant get my withdrawal from burnside...
Mar 10 13:19:31 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/298/mpex-co-still-offline-friday-march-15th/ lmao
Mar 10 13:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	who's the smartass
Mar 10 13:21:30 <gabridome>	FabianB:upgraded last version with brew (1.8.7) and tryed to install but:ERROR:  Error installing mpex: 	ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension. Don't want to spam the channel but could you give me a way to support?
Mar 10 13:22:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.005905 = 0.1476 BTC [-]
Mar 10 13:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	what;'s the logfiles say ?
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Mar 10 13:24:14 <gabridome>	mircea_popescu: that look like a challenge. I'ignore it
Mar 10 13:24:25 <gabridome>	I'd ignore it
Mar 10 13:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol. but seriously, it probably spits out something more useful in a log somewhere.
Mar 10 13:25:08 <mircea_popescu>	you're prolly missing some itam.
Mar 10 13:25:32 <gabridome>	I'llgo find the logs...
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Mar 10 13:27:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009989 BTC [-]
Mar 10 13:27:48 <gabridome>	xcode-select: Error: No Xcode is selected. Use xcode-select -switch <path-to-xcode>, or see the xcode-select manpage (man xcode-select) for further information.
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Mar 10 13:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck is xcode
Mar 10 13:31:25 <pigeons>	apple's compiler/environment whatever
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Mar 10 13:33:21 <gabridome>	?m downloading the new version right now
Mar 10 13:34:23 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: what's vsa again?
Mar 10 13:34:30 <pigeons>	yeah use a computer not an apple
Mar 10 13:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	smickles volume in satoshi
Mar 10 13:34:52 <pigeons>	well an apple II is a computer, but not a imacbook
Mar 10 13:34:57 <smickles>	thx :)
Mar 10 13:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons so a sort of borland pascal ?
Mar 10 13:35:36 <pigeons>	TURBO pascal
Mar 10 13:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	heh i think pastebin.com is getting ddosed too.
Mar 10 13:36:19 <pigeons>	Delphi++
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Mar 10 13:38:23 <FabianB>	gabridome: as the readme says you need ruby > 1.9 or 2.0
Mar 10 13:38:34 <smickles>	ok, it's privitive, but it's there:
Mar 10 13:38:38 <smickles>	$help vwap
Mar 10 13:38:39 <mpexbot>	smickles: (vwap [<MPSIC>]) -- Returns a pastebin link with all available market data, excepting depth. If an MPSIC is specified, returns only the data relevant to that MPSIC in IRC.
Mar 10 13:38:43 <smickles>	$help depth
Mar 10 13:38:44 <mpexbot>	smickles: (depth [<MPSIC>]) -- Returns the full market depth. If an MPSIC is specified, returns only the depth of the specified MPSIC.
Mar 10 13:39:10 <benkay>	nice
Mar 10 13:39:21 <benkay>	$depth
Mar 10 13:39:25 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/pNPn50Nk
Mar 10 13:39:48 <smickles>	benkay: there is also $post to send mpex commands, if you didn't know already ;)
Mar 10 13:39:55 <benkay>	i am familiar
Mar 10 13:39:57 <benkay>	thank you
Mar 10 13:40:08 <benkay>	do you have a moment to answer some rando questions, smickles?
Mar 10 13:40:20 <smickles>	go ahead :)
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Mar 10 13:42:39 <kakobrekla>	what is the air speed velocity of an african swallow?
Mar 10 13:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	unswallowed ?
Mar 10 13:43:01 <pigeons>	do you like gladiator movies?
Mar 10 13:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	how many memes are there ?
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Mar 10 13:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	hmm, smickles has failed to answer our questions. this is clearly a scam
Mar 10 13:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	there has been a full minute elapsed already.
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Mar 10 13:47:05 <smickles>	philosophically speaking from a radical skepticism point of view, the answer to all of those is "i don't know"
Mar 10 13:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	$post U4KC19nM
Mar 10 13:47:08 <smickles>	:P
Mar 10 13:47:13 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/5ZNPXqdz
Mar 10 13:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's official, mpex is using new signature
Mar 10 13:50:24 <mircea_popescu>	3D57448E80A56F64F1D35E8F14460196CFE0F3E1 / CFE0F3E1
Mar 10 13:50:32 <Bowjob>	so mp, doing any LTC mpex soon
Mar 10 13:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	make sure you update if you haven't already.
Mar 10 13:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob nah
Mar 10 13:50:44 <Bowjob>	i find it baffling it reaches 35 cents
Mar 10 13:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	mania.
Mar 10 13:51:04 <Bowjob>	considering it's a get rich quick
Mar 10 13:51:10 <Bowjob>	scheme..
Mar 10 13:51:21 <Bowjob>	heck they openly admitted it on litecoin.org until recently
Mar 10 13:51:22 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 10 13:54:49 <ThickAsThieves>	ozcoin is already #2 pool
Mar 10 13:54:56 <ThickAsThieves>	so much for that bet maturing
Mar 10 13:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves http://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=4days conspicuously absent
Mar 10 13:57:26 <kakobrekla>	;;getrating benkay
Mar 10 13:57:28 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net .
Mar 10 13:57:39 <benkay>	hence my request :)
Mar 10 13:57:45 <kakobrekla>	;;rate benkay 1 mpex socket subscriber
Mar 10 13:57:46 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user benkay has been recorded.
Mar 10 13:58:05 <benkay>	my first rating!
Mar 10 13:58:16 <kakobrekla>	congrats :)
Mar 10 13:58:51 <benkay>	;;rate kakobrekla 1 mpex socket hookup
Mar 10 13:58:52 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user kakobrekla has been recorded.
Mar 10 13:59:11 <benkay>	thanks
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Mar 10 14:01:09 <gabridome>	Pardon FabianB: seen just now. There's no brew formula for ruby 1.9. I guess I have to wait...
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Mar 10 14:01:47 <ThickAsThieves>	ah my mistake the chart i was viewing says top pools that are 'asic ready'
Mar 10 14:01:49 <ThickAsThieves>	http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/
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Mar 10 14:02:18 <mod6>	Hey all. So I think I'm just gonna play with this thing a bit today, but it should be a lot less testing in here.  I'm gonna change this thing so when it just sits in here, it looks for a msg from the owner defined by a pgp keyid and it'll verify with gribble via keyid & hostmask & if authenticated currently.
Mar 10 14:03:06 <mod6>	Then it can just msg mpexbot and get the stuff back without the additional join/part spammyness.
Mar 10 14:03:16 <mod6>	That code from yesterday worked, but kinda fucks a donkey.
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Mar 10 14:03:20 <mod6>	=)
Mar 10 14:03:47 <deadweasel>	i wish the devs I work with were as honest as you.
Mar 10 14:03:49 <benkay>	only mod6 smiles about fucking donkeys
Mar 10 14:04:09 <benkay>	humility
Mar 10 14:04:17 <deadweasel>	i dunno, donkey shows are pretty big in the mexico
Mar 10 14:04:20 <benkay>	my favorite coders are ultra humble
Mar 10 14:04:26 <deadweasel>	mine too
Mar 10 14:04:34 <benkay>	i seek to emulate that
Mar 10 14:05:02 <deadweasel>	i'm lucky, my team is quite humble, except for the crappy two.  they fuck everything up and spend a whole sprint doing one shite feature.
Mar 10 14:05:18 <benkay>	fire them
Mar 10 14:05:18 <deadweasel>	which everyone else fixes in the next sprint
Mar 10 14:05:27 <benkay>	are they shit or juniors?
Mar 10 14:05:32 <deadweasel>	I think she is leaving, I saw her updating her resume last week, AT WORK.
Mar 10 14:05:37 <deadweasel>	she is not bright.
Mar 10 14:05:47 <deadweasel>	juniors
Mar 10 14:05:47 <benkay>	sad
Mar 10 14:06:04 <benkay>	but *could* they be trained into high performers?
Mar 10 14:06:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01111 BTC [-]
Mar 10 14:06:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 99 @ 0.0111 = 1.0989 BTC [-]
Mar 10 14:06:25 <benkay>	i'm only moderately competent due to the generosity of senior engineers at every firm i've ever been a part of.
Mar 10 14:06:35 <benkay>	w/r/t time, energy...
Mar 10 14:06:39 <deadweasel>	no.  :(
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Mar 10 14:08:27 <benkay>	fire them.
Mar 10 14:09:01 <benkay>	what kind of shop do work in?
Mar 10 14:10:18 <mod6>	lol, its been so long since i've written anything that interacts with irc.  its kinda fun to write something like this.  250 million internet years ago, when the aol ice caps were still melting, I used Net::IRC a bunch, but now its deprecated. :/
Mar 10 14:10:53 <mod6>	this new lib seems to do the trick though
Mar 10 14:11:37 <deadweasel>	the aol ice caps, lol
Mar 10 14:11:54 <deadweasel>	theres a few left, adrift in the north seas, they're like retarded unicorns
Mar 10 14:12:03 <mod6>	haha
Mar 10 14:12:12 <mod6>	yes.
Mar 10 14:12:16 <FabianB>	gabridome: yep, wait or use http://rvm.io or compile yourself
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Mar 10 14:12:18 <deadweasel>	i cringe when someone has @aol.com email
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Mar 10 14:12:37 <gabridome>	FabianB: I've succeded to compile it with the new version of Xcode!!! Now it gives me errors about No definition for rb_s_gpgme* maybe is the ruby version...
Mar 10 14:14:40 <deadweasel>	benkay: it's an AGILE/SCRUM team about 12 big, doing vetconnectplus.com
Mar 10 14:14:51 <FabianB>	gabridome: with xcode? ok.
Mar 10 14:15:02 <FabianB>	gabridome: well, you need > 1.9
Mar 10 14:15:21 <deadweasel>	it aggregates data from local vetinary machines and labs sent to regional labs, displays it altogether one historical graphs for vetinary diagnoses
Mar 10 14:15:23 <FabianB>	and gpg needs to installed
Mar 10 14:15:37 <benkay>	WHAT DEADWEASAL LETS GET BEERS
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Mar 10 14:15:54 <benkay>	assuming you're working out of the idexx facility in portland
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Mar 10 14:15:58 <deadweasel>	haha, yes
Mar 10 14:16:03 <benkay>	omgaweseom
Mar 10 14:16:06 <deadweasel>	westbrook
Mar 10 14:16:11 <benkay>	omgawesome
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Mar 10 14:16:36 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 10 14:16:43 <deadweasel>	benkay: where are you?
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Mar 10 14:16:49 <gabridome>	Sincerly FabianB: thank you for your assistance but to manage more than one version of ruby or to compile Ruby on a non Linux environment is much further my knowledge. I'll wait a bit if brew issue a new formula for Ruby
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Mar 10 14:17:14 <FabianB>	gabridome: np
Mar 10 14:17:39 <gabridome>	ruby
Mar 10 14:17:59 <gabridome>	np?
Mar 10 14:18:17 <gabridome>	ah no problem.
Mar 10 14:19:25 <gabridome>	what
Mar 10 14:19:26 <FabianB>	if i'm around i like to help, but i probably won't support 1.8, since it's old and no good irc libs out for it
Mar 10 14:20:06 <FabianB>	also in a high speed train right now, not really stable internet :)
Mar 10 14:20:13 <gabridome>	yeah I guessed it. better to wait for better libs
Mar 10 14:21:07 <gabridome>	http://mpex.coinbr.com/ on line! Am I drunk?
Mar 10 14:22:06 <benkay>	nope
Mar 10 14:22:06 <FabianB>	Rick__: ^^
Mar 10 14:22:08 <benkay>	*cheers*
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Mar 10 14:22:30 <mircea_popescu>	sweet.
Mar 10 14:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	applause for jurov.
Mar 10 14:23:01 <jurov>	oh, that remains to be seen
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Mar 10 14:23:24 <gabridome>	clap clap. Is it possible to remove:"The only Bitcoin service that has never been hacked. Established August 2011" it looks strange... ;)
Mar 10 14:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	strange, how ? :D
Mar 10 14:24:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 99 @ 0.1737 = 17.1963 BTC [+]
Mar 10 14:24:43 <gabridome>	I swear I swear that I wanted to bet...
Mar 10 14:26:29 <gabridome>	I have to modify my shell script..
Mar 10 14:29:21 <gabridome>	changed my shell script: https://github.com/gabridome/mpex-sh/blob/master/mpex.sh
Mar 10 14:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.60499999 = 1.21 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 14:35:51 <Lyspooner>	did the mpex ddos'er at least pay a subscription fee to MP?
Mar 10 14:36:00 <Lyspooner>	seems unfair if not
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Mar 10 14:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner lol how do you figure ?
Mar 10 14:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	also kakobrekla, mind changing the topic ?
Mar 10 14:38:07 <smickles>	"These keys are only used when there are other recipients given either by use of --recipient or  by the asked user id. No trust checking is performed for these user ids and even disabled keys  can be used."
Mar 10 14:38:12 <smickles>	lol, woops
Mar 10 14:40:20 <jurov>	Lyspooner, like, he issued gigabytes of STAT requests?
Mar 10 14:41:14 <smickles>	gabridome: pull request ;)
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Mar 10 14:41:31 <maximian>	FabianB: your mpex gem is excellent
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Mar 10 14:42:58 <smickles>	oh hey mircea_popescu, you should ident and repost the new keyid
Mar 10 14:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	okay
Mar 10 14:43:15 <smickles>	so we know it's fo' realzies
Mar 10 14:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Mar 10 14:43:19 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 10 14:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	(you know it was published ion trilema a while back)
Mar 10 14:43:43 <smickles>	did not know, is trilema back up?
Mar 10 14:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.60499999 = 1.21 BTC [+]
Mar 10 14:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3b6fd8223825264e5fc51a61232399173363cd6a3672c77d8374c3e7
Mar 10 14:44:07 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 10 14:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	aha. ok so : new mpex key 3D57448E80A56F64F1D35E8F14460196CFE0F3E1 / CFE0F3E1
Mar 10 14:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	also mpex.coinbr.com back online
Mar 10 14:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	smickles nope
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Mar 10 14:45:27 <smickles>	mpex PUSH is awesome :D
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Mar 10 14:49:22 <dub>	coinbr still down though eh
Mar 10 14:49:32 <pizzaman1337>	why a new key?
Mar 10 14:49:42 <dub>	not processing orders anyway
Mar 10 14:49:45 <pizzaman1337>	I noticed it was rejecting my orders
Mar 10 14:49:45 <pigeons>	cause he's too lasy to extend expiration
Mar 10 14:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	dub make sure you're using new mpex key/
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Mar 10 14:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 cause the old one expired
Mar 10 14:50:43 *	kakobrekla has changed the topic to: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ || CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Mar 10 14:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	and it was too short anyway
Mar 10 14:50:57 <kakobrekla>	like ziz?
Mar 10 14:50:58 <dub>	mircea_popescu: using coinbr ont the proxy
Mar 10 14:51:01 <dub>	not*
Mar 10 14:51:09 <mircea_popescu>	a, coinbr sucks, don't use it
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Mar 10 14:51:30 <gabridome>	smickless: remember to change youKeyID and to put eventually the esclamation point
Mar 10 14:52:03 <mircea_popescu>	dub but seriously, will be back momentarily.
Mar 10 14:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499999 BTC [+]
Mar 10 14:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499997 BTC [-]
Mar 10 14:54:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [+]
Mar 10 14:54:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.605 = 1.21 BTC [+]
Mar 10 14:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499999 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 14:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499999 BTC [-]
Mar 10 14:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.605 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 15:01:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.18 = 0.54 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2758 @ 0.00598314 = 16.5015 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:05:19 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: gpg doesn't seem to be able to find that key for me, would you mind posting the key block somewhere?
Mar 10 15:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Mar 10 15:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59999999 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 15:07:03 <kakobrekla>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1018523/
Mar 10 15:07:04 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 10 15:07:06 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1018524/plain/
Mar 10 15:07:39 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 http://pastebin.com/9M25zBr7
Mar 10 15:07:49 <pizzaman1337>	thanks
Mar 10 15:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:09:51 <kakobrekla>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1018525/
Mar 10 15:09:51 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 10 15:09:54 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1018527/plain/
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Mar 10 15:12:55 <kakobrekla>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1018529/
Mar 10 15:12:56 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 10 15:12:58 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1018530/plain/
Mar 10 15:13:44 <kakobrekla>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1018531/
Mar 10 15:13:45 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 10 15:13:47 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1018532/plain/
Mar 10 15:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:14:55 <pizzaman1337>	nice to see S.DICE up a bit
Mar 10 15:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.60499999 = 1.21 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla did it work ?
Mar 10 15:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.60499998 = 1.21 BTC [-]
Mar 10 15:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.60499999 = 1.815 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:18:19 <kakobrekla>	who what where?
Mar 10 15:18:24 <kakobrekla>	the bot, works.
Mar 10 15:18:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.225 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [-]
Mar 10 15:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	a kk.
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Mar 10 15:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [-]
Mar 10 15:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.60499999 = 2.42 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:21:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.605 = 1.21 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 846 @ 0.00599989 = 5.0759 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1654 @ 0.006 = 9.924 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:22:36 <gabridome>	mircea_popescu:the new key is 1024 long and has no expiry date. Is it ok?
Mar 10 15:23:03 <pigeons>	dont bother asking the fingerprint, just the lenght and expiry date
Mar 10 15:23:24 <mircea_popescu>	it has no expiry date but it's 4kb
Mar 10 15:24:16 <gabridome>	key ID: 14460196CFE0F3E1?
Mar 10 15:24:19 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: bot to arb S.DICE on mpex/havelock?
Mar 10 15:24:26 <FabianB>	maximian: thanks, if you have any suggestions i'll constantly try to improve it
Mar 10 15:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	gabridome sounds right.
Mar 10 15:25:04 <kakobrekla>	pizzaman1337 it should be done, but depth is kinda meh
Mar 10 15:25:17 <pigeons>	speaking of
Mar 10 15:25:20 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, really small
Mar 10 15:25:39 <pigeons>	topace_: looks like your mpex transfer script needs to look for the sig by the new mpex key
Mar 10 15:25:40 <gabridome>	so I guess gpg tools keyring doesn't read well the lenght(?) mmhhh
Mar 10 15:25:57 <kakobrekla>	pigeons doing manual arb?
Mar 10 15:26:00 <gabridome>	I've got to check something
Mar 10 15:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	gabridome the old one was 1k/4k
Mar 10 15:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	im sorry. 1k/2k
Mar 10 15:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	thios one is 1k/4k.
Mar 10 15:28:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71997 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 15:31:26 <gabridome>	yeah..Beg your pardon. You should be tierd to answer question to newbies. I didn't check the subkeys...
Mar 10 15:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	i don't mind
Mar 10 15:31:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000725 = 0.0022 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:32:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 35 @ 0.00549 = 0.1922 BTC [-]
Mar 10 15:33:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 12 @ 0.00066 = 0.0079 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 15:34:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00585 = 0.2925 BTC [-]
Mar 10 15:36:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 37 @ 0.00999 = 0.3696 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:37:14 <maximian>	Here's something interesting - the average SatoshiDice bet size doesn't appear to relate to the BTC/USD exchange rate as many assume. Analysis by dooglus: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1606184#msg1606184
Mar 10 15:38:38 <gabridome>	I've updated the shell script with the id of the new key https://github.com/gabridome/mpex-sh/blob/master/mpex.sh
Mar 10 15:38:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00585 = 0.0878 BTC [-]
Mar 10 15:38:46 <maximian>	it could be that the rise in the exchange rate is being offset by more players
Mar 10 15:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	maximian interesting.
Mar 10 15:42:47 <mircea_popescu>	when was that released ?
Mar 10 15:43:01 <maximian>	today
Mar 10 15:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	might explain the s.dice surge
Mar 10 15:44:09 <maximian>	could be… we might see a nice recovery back to the .0070s
Mar 10 15:44:45 <pizzaman1337>	big wall at 0.00622500 though
Mar 10 15:46:58 <maximian>	yep, and trade volume is still light. probably no big moves without some news.
Mar 10 15:47:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71997 BTC [-]
Mar 10 15:48:41 <maximian>	still, nice to see some some demand return
Mar 10 15:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00075 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:51:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71998 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:53:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71998 BTC [+]
Mar 10 15:55:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 15:58:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1799 = 0.3598 BTC [-]
Mar 10 15:59:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.23 = 1.38 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 16:00:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:00:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:00:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.67 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:00:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.66 = 1.98 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:00:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:00:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:00:46 <topace_>	pigeons: yea, i need to get that new key in there
Mar 10 16:01:06 <topace_>	gotta find the details on it.. since mpex is down i dont know where to look
Mar 10 16:01:16 <topace_>	(mpex.co website down, i mean)
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Mar 10 16:02:54 <topace_>	is there a working mpex proxy besides the bot here?
Mar 10 16:03:27 <MJR__>	lol mined 50 Ltc last night dumping it now
Mar 10 16:03:30 <topace_>	can't even get to mp's blog to get the gpg key  data
Mar 10 16:04:18 <MJR__>	yeah I miss polimedia
Mar 10 16:04:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7 = 3.5 BTC [+]
Mar 10 16:06:20 <jurov>	https://github.com/jurov/pyMPEx new mpex key was not done properly, changing mpex url via -m commandline switch
Mar 10 16:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	topace yes, mpex.coinbr.com works
Mar 10 16:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	also, key :
Mar 10 16:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/9M25zBr7
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Mar 10 16:07:06 <mjr_>	whats up jurov how you been?
Mar 10 16:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	i mean topace_ ^
Mar 10 16:07:46 <EskimoBob>	Hi, what was the name of that guy here who knew accounting?
Mar 10 16:07:55 <mjr_>	that was a nice experience, ltc into btc-e, traded for btc, and gone back to coinbr in less than a half hour
Mar 10 16:08:11 <jurov>	mjr_ well, i got sick of the whole situation (as if i catched cold)
Mar 10 16:08:30 <mjr_>	what situation?
Mar 10 16:10:17 <topace_>	mircea_popescu: please confirm fingerprint: 3D57 448E 80A5 6F64 F1D3  5E8F 1446 0196 CFE0 F3E1 ?
Mar 10 16:10:39 <mircea_popescu>	3D57448E80A56F64F1D35E8F14460196CFE0F3E1 / CFE0F3E1 yeh
Mar 10 16:11:02 <FabianB>	released mpex cli 0.4.5 which includes new mpex key in default config, basic orderbook in http and irc version (https://github.com/fawuxi/mpex)
Mar 10 16:11:20 <jurov>	mjr_ had to very quickly move whole site and learn how amazon ec2 works
Mar 10 16:11:26 <FabianB>	if there are existing users: key can be changed in ~/.mpex/config.yaml
Mar 10 16:15:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.23 = 0.46 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 16:21:37 <topace_>	pympex keeps telling me invalid signature,. but i have the new one in my keyring, and its signed
Mar 10 16:23:45 <topace_>	oh its telling me to email you my public key first
Mar 10 16:23:51 <topace_>	2013-03-10T16:21:04.028098 Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first.
Mar 10 16:24:13 <FabianB>	topace_: did you edit in the new one in the source?
Mar 10 16:24:19 <jurov>	topace, did you upgrade to my versionabove?
Mar 10 16:24:29 <topace_>	jurov: yes i did just did a fresh git clone
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Mar 10 16:24:44 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 10 16:25:30 <pizzaman1337>	pympex works for me, I just edited the key. Make sure you sign the new one too.
Mar 10 16:25:49 <topace_>	ah there we go
Mar 10 16:25:56 <topace_>	got it
Mar 10 16:27:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0059998 = 11.9996 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 16:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.602 = 3.01 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.601 = 3.005 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:29:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.600002 = 5.4 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:29:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:29:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:29:12 <topace_>	pigeons: mpex transfer should work again now
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Mar 10 16:42:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 14 @ 0.00999 = 0.1399 BTC [+]
Mar 10 16:43:25 <EskimoBob>	wow, LOOK! A 11 btc trade at pervert bazaar. Must be a killer week of trading :)
Mar 10 16:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.59 = 5.9 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.59 = 2.95 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:47:09 <kakobrekla>	what that, two klins?
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Mar 10 16:49:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.59 = 4.72 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 16:56:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:56:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 31 @ 0.1853 = 5.7443 BTC [-]
Mar 10 16:56:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.18521 = 1.4817 BTC [-]
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Mar 10 16:58:20 <dub>	rule 1 of amurika, thou shalt not disparage driving around in a circle http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/racing/news/20130308/nascar-fine-denny-hamlin-las-vegas-preview/
Mar 10 16:59:11 <mircea_popescu>	dub the funny thing is, one of the things american ppl in england tend to mock is the roundabouts
Mar 10 16:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	and yet...
Mar 10 16:59:40 <deadweasel>	i'm american, I love roundabouts
Mar 10 17:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	well maybe i was stereotyping unwarrantedly.
Mar 10 17:00:28 <MJR__>	gonna drive straight, then turn to the left
Mar 10 17:00:52 <dub>	turning right is the devils work
Mar 10 17:00:54 <MJR__>	did you see that South Park?
Mar 10 17:02:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7 = 7 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 17:12:22 <topace_>	mircea_popescu: so i just got a push receipt, that validates, but there arent any extra units in my account to account for the push?
Mar 10 17:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	that is strange. let me look
Mar 10 17:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident topace_
Mar 10 17:12:52 <gribble>	Nick 'topace_', with hostmask 'topace_!~kvirc@CPEc0c1c03be745-CM00407b85cf6f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com', is not identified.
Mar 10 17:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	id please ?
Mar 10 17:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.0059998 = 0.36 BTC [-]
Mar 10 17:13:24 <topace_>	08AEAC40F3086E6131B39762A49472A32D4FCE50
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Mar 10 17:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	if you can't id with that i'll have to ask you to sign something.
Mar 10 17:14:44 <topace_>	;;ident topace
Mar 10 17:14:44 <gribble>	Nick 'topace', with hostmask 'topace!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace', is not identified.
Mar 10 17:14:56 <pigeons>	;;ident topace_
Mar 10 17:14:56 <gribble>	Nick 'topace_', with hostmask 'topace_!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace', is not identified.
Mar 10 17:15:00 <topace_>	hmm guess i never setup gpg with gribble
Mar 10 17:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	sign a short explanation, date it, limit it and pastebin
Mar 10 17:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	"this is to prove key ownership over irc session 10 mar 2013 not valid for any other purpose"
Mar 10 17:17:29 <topace_>	http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603186/
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Mar 10 17:24:00 <mjr_>	how do i link a btc address with gribble?
Mar 10 17:24:06 <mjr_>	;;identr
Mar 10 17:24:06 <gribble>	Error: "identr" is not a valid command.
Mar 10 17:24:08 <mjr_>	;;ident
Mar 10 17:24:08 <gribble>	You are not identified.
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Mar 10 17:25:54 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 10 17:25:55 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None
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Mar 10 17:32:55 <Josh_Rossi>	so i can't find any info on the wiki about adding a bitcoin address
Mar 10 17:34:23 <Azelphur>	Josh_Rossi: care to elaborate on what you're trying to do?
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Mar 10 17:36:50 <dub>	add btc address to his otc user I think
Mar 10 17:36:58 <dub>	;;guide
Mar 10 17:36:58 <gribble>	Error: "guide" is not a valid command.
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Mar 10 17:40:19 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 10 17:40:19 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
Mar 10 17:40:36 <pigeons>	its ;;changeaddress
Mar 10 17:40:36 <Josh_Rossi>	thanks guys
Mar 10 17:40:51 <Josh_Rossi>	yeah, i got it, i thought that was going to change my pgp address
Mar 10 17:40:53 <dub>	the docs are retarded
Mar 10 17:41:07 <Josh_Rossi>	but i realized that you are just changing the btc address from none to whatever
Mar 10 17:41:20 <Josh_Rossi>	well, i got that all taken care of
Mar 10 17:41:52 <dub>	so can you ident via bitcoin key now?
Mar 10 17:42:38 <Josh_Rossi>	i think so
Mar 10 17:42:41 <Anduck>	yes
Mar 10 17:42:47 <Anduck>	do ;;bcauth and when you get the string
Mar 10 17:42:51 <Anduck>	sign it with the btc addr
Mar 10 17:42:53 <Josh_Rossi>	but i already set up a script to do it with pgp
Mar 10 17:42:56 <Anduck>	then do ;;bcverify <string>
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Mar 10 17:43:02 <Anduck>	bitcoin is so much better imo
Mar 10 17:43:02 <Anduck>	xD
Mar 10 17:43:13 <Anduck>	i havent touched my gpg since that
Mar 10 17:43:25 <vampireb>	!help
Mar 10 17:43:25 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 10 17:43:26 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 10 17:43:27 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 10 17:43:32 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 10 17:43:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.00594534 / 0.006 (30318 shares, 180.25 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.0056036 / 0.006225 (414146 shares, 2,320.71 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616133 / 0.0069 (3639066 shares, 22,421.49 BTC)
Mar 10 17:43:38 <Josh_Rossi>	well, i kind of want to start using pgp for certain emails
Mar 10 17:44:34 <Josh_Rossi>	i had a long discussion with someone about how online identities may become much more valuable than social security numbers or drivers licenses
Mar 10 17:44:54 <Josh_Rossi>	because while you do need those
Mar 10 17:45:03 <Josh_Rossi>	you don't use them as often as you go online
Mar 10 17:45:12 <vampireb>	that's why you start creating few seperate identities
Mar 10 17:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	certainly true.
Mar 10 17:45:20 <Josh_Rossi>	and for the most part in real life, people trust you to be you cuz you look the same
Mar 10 17:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, if i lost my id i would be meh, send someone to get a new one
Mar 10 17:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	if i lost my gpg key i'd be like...
Mar 10 17:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	o god.
Mar 10 17:45:42 <Josh_Rossi>	hehehe yeah
Mar 10 17:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	there's no words.
Mar 10 17:46:01 <Josh_Rossi>	scary thought
Mar 10 17:46:09 <error4733>	amnesia
Mar 10 17:46:11 <Josh_Rossi>	is there some sort of certificate system?
Mar 10 17:46:18 <error4733>	car accident or what
Mar 10 17:46:34 <Josh_Rossi>	like key signing? or does gribble basically do that for us
Mar 10 17:47:05 <Josh_Rossi>	i mean fulfill the role that a key signing party would have fulfilled
Mar 10 17:47:31 <Josh_Rossi>	i literally feel like i'm living cryptonomicon
Mar 10 17:49:13 <Josh_Rossi>	i assume that everyone has read or is aware of that book...but if not it is amazing book about cryptography and digital currencies that was written before btc took off i think
Mar 10 17:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	Josh_Rossi you mean the wot ?
Mar 10 17:49:36 <Josh_Rossi>	yeah '99 it was written
Mar 10 17:49:50 <Josh_Rossi>	yes, does the WoT take the role of a key signing party
Mar 10 17:49:59 <Josh_Rossi>	or a certificate authority
Mar 10 17:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 10 17:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	rather than the nominalist approach, try the functional
Mar 10 17:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	what are you trying to do ?
Mar 10 17:50:29 <Josh_Rossi>	lol, as of right now, nothing
Mar 10 17:50:30 <dub>	no, wot is just a wot
Mar 10 17:50:50 <Josh_Rossi>	or i guess more accurately, learn more about how trust and cryptography are related
Mar 10 17:50:57 <Josh_Rossi>	for example
Mar 10 17:51:18 <Josh_Rossi>	i saw MPOE-PR show a sig that verified that she was authorized to speak on behalf of MPOE
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Mar 10 17:51:35 <Josh_Rossi>	So, I imported your key
Mar 10 17:51:40 <Josh_Rossi>	and verified that you signed it
Mar 10 17:52:30 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Mar 10 17:53:03 <Josh_Rossi>	but it also said something like "this message is signed by this key, but that does not mean that it is really him"
Mar 10 17:53:22 <mircea_popescu>	that's nonsense.
Mar 10 17:53:28 <Josh_Rossi>	no no no
Mar 10 17:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	what they mean is, anyone can create a key which would be named "Joe"
Mar 10 17:53:38 <Josh_Rossi>	someone with access to that private key
Mar 10 17:53:41 <Josh_Rossi>	yes exactly
Mar 10 17:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	however, you didn't identify the key by it being named joe
Mar 10 17:53:46 <FabianB>	Josh_Rossi: yeah stephensons cryptonomicon is a fantastic book
Mar 10 17:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	you identified it by my keyid. so...
Mar 10 17:54:15 <Josh_Rossi>	i guess they are saying that while that key is definitely valid
Mar 10 17:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	the label on it is arbitrary
Mar 10 17:54:49 <Josh_Rossi>	yes true
Mar 10 17:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Mar 10 17:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 10 17:54:58 <Josh_Rossi>	and in your case, it is known that that is your key
Mar 10 17:55:04 <Josh_Rossi>	but in the case of someone else
Mar 10 17:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	ya hence the key signing parties and whatnot.
Mar 10 17:55:15 <Josh_Rossi>	all i know is that they say "this is my pub key"
Mar 10 17:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	originally these keys were invented for and used by people whose real world presence was more important to each other
Mar 10 17:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	gpg kinda predates the internet
Mar 10 17:55:46 <Josh_Rossi>	yeah
Mar 10 17:56:12 <Josh_Rossi>	just checking if i understood it correctly
Mar 10 17:56:23 <Josh_Rossi>	i trust that they key i used was really you
Mar 10 17:56:40 <dub>	for us it doesnt matter if its really him
Mar 10 17:56:40 <Josh_Rossi>	and then i can see that the key actually signed that statement
Mar 10 17:56:49 <dub>	or that he is who he says he is
Mar 10 17:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	that's the idea, whart dub says
Mar 10 17:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	you're not really verifying that the key is really this bloke in timisoara you couldn't care less about
Mar 10 17:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	you're really veryifying that the key signing here is the same key signing there
Mar 10 17:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	as for instance on mpex etc.
Mar 10 17:57:22 <Josh_Rossi>	yes of course
Mar 10 17:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	so it's an identity in that more mathematical sense, not in the more psychological sense of the term.
Mar 10 17:57:46 <Josh_Rossi>	that is what i was trying to say, that it is consistent across different channels
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Mar 10 17:58:15 <Josh_Rossi>	the same person who runs mpex also wrote a statement saying that mpoe-pr is authorized to speak on its behalf
Mar 10 17:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	yah
Mar 10 17:58:42 <mircea_popescu>	if that matches, it could be called obama for all you care.
Mar 10 17:58:45 <Josh_Rossi>	yes
Mar 10 17:58:47 <Josh_Rossi>	true
Mar 10 17:59:40 <Josh_Rossi>	i'm trying to build a ticker now using websockets
Mar 10 17:59:52 <Josh_Rossi>	but the rest of the front end uses C#
Mar 10 18:00:09 <Josh_Rossi>	so i have to write a web based tech thing in a desktop application language that is not great for it
Mar 10 18:00:32 <Josh_Rossi>	i found some libraries, but trying to get javascript and c# working together is not fun
Mar 10 18:01:41 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 10 18:01:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.34000, Best ask: 46.39990, Bid-ask spread: 0.05990, Last trade: 46.34000, 24 hour volume: 35159.39827638, 24 hour low: 45.63000, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.92297
Mar 10 18:01:45 <Bowjob>	omg
Mar 10 18:01:46 <Bowjob>	crash
Mar 10 18:01:54 <Josh_Rossi>	lol
Mar 10 18:02:21 <Josh_Rossi>	FabianB: yes, i really like all his books (except Anathem) and think it is amazing how prescient it is
Mar 10 18:03:04 <vampireb>	huh? c# is easy to integrate with the JS
Mar 10 18:03:09 <Josh_Rossi>	really?
Mar 10 18:03:21 <vampireb>	create an ajax service
Mar 10 18:03:22 <mircea_popescu>	aren't they basically the same thing ?!
Mar 10 18:03:40 <Josh_Rossi>	C# is similar to Java
Mar 10 18:03:53 <Josh_Rossi>	javascript is not similar to javascript or C# really...
Mar 10 18:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://sharpkit.net/ like
Mar 10 18:04:15 <dub>	Bowjob: would you mind saving this tanking/rally rubbish every time a trade occur for #bitcoin-otc
Mar 10 18:04:19 <Josh_Rossi>	and with trying to connect to Socket.IO, you are basically trying to send javascript commands to a server
Mar 10 18:04:33 <vampireb>	i use vs2012 it was a snap
Mar 10 18:04:38 <Bowjob>	no, i like doing it
Mar 10 18:04:51 <mircea_popescu>	i always tghought js and c# are practically the same thing
Mar 10 18:05:10 <dub>	Bowjob: so do they, why not share with teh other idiots
Mar 10 18:05:11 <Josh_Rossi>	i am using vs2012 too
Mar 10 18:05:15 <vampireb>	c# is a better version of java, but the java world is much better. hell i love osx
Mar 10 18:05:25 <Bowjob>	well what are you gonna do about it
Mar 10 18:05:25 <Josh_Rossi>	i am not a fan of either
Mar 10 18:05:34 <dub>	Bowjob: I'll start to dislike you
Mar 10 18:05:39 <Bowjob>	go ahead
Mar 10 18:05:50 <Josh_Rossi>	my roots are more like scripting and stuff, so i love python and dynamic typing
Mar 10 18:06:08 <dub>	tbh that started when you were crying to us about your parents moving your piano downstairs with teh other pianos
Mar 10 18:06:10 <Josh_Rossi>	but if i was going to bother with types, i would want to actually compile to the native code
Mar 10 18:06:23 <vampireb>	in an enterprise enviroment with too many monkey that code, its better to have a strongly typed language
Mar 10 18:06:27 <Bowjob>	right. i'm still mad about that
Mar 10 18:06:30 <dub>	of all the ridiculous problems a person could have
Mar 10 18:06:51 <Josh_Rossi>	yeah, i suppose that is true, i basically do all coding by myself
Mar 10 18:06:58 <Josh_Rossi>	and just want it to work
Mar 10 18:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	this conversation o.o
Mar 10 18:07:30 <Josh_Rossi>	drama in #bitcoin-assets :)
Mar 10 18:08:22 <PsychoticBoy>	I hate coding etc but hey it makes a good living
Mar 10 18:08:44 <Josh_Rossi>	i think its so fun
Mar 10 18:09:05 <Josh_Rossi>	such a thrill when something works...and the design part can be creative...
Mar 10 18:09:21 <Josh_Rossi>	feel like you are building something, that many people could find useful
Mar 10 18:09:42 <PsychoticBoy>	I am rather lazy than tired
Mar 10 18:09:48 <dub>	I'm always annoyed to be fixing a problem that should already be solved
Mar 10 18:10:02 <Josh_Rossi>	hehehe, i usually google for libraries that do what i need
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Mar 10 18:10:31 <Josh_Rossi>	our 3 C++ developers are Romanian
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Mar 10 18:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	big surprise there
Mar 10 18:12:47 <Lyspooner>	our 3 homeless newspaper sellers outside the subway are Romanian
Mar 10 18:12:57 <Lyspooner>	and hello everyone!
Mar 10 18:13:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Mar 10 18:21:22 <Josh_Rossi>	i guess there is no way to write options on coinbr?
Mar 10 18:21:23 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ticker
Mar 10 18:21:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.13000, Best ask: 46.37591, Bid-ask spread: 0.24591, Last trade: 46.37591, 24 hour volume: 35421.00568840, 24 hour low: 45.63000, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.91767
Mar 10 18:21:24 <Josh_Rossi>	;;calc (46.91767-41)/46.91767
Mar 10 18:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 10 18:21:24 <gribble>	0.12612881245
Mar 10 18:21:24 <Josh_Rossi>	was that not correct for the formula?
Mar 10 18:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be the value of a call struck at 41
Mar 10 18:21:25 <Josh_Rossi>	yep thats mine :)
Mar 10 18:21:25 <Lyspooner>	i'm not good at charts, but this index seems particularly unuseful: http://bitcoinsentiment.com/
Mar 10 18:21:25 <Lyspooner>	its usefulness is stuck in a tarpit of bias, small sample size and stupidity
Mar 10 18:21:25 <Josh_Rossi>	that is why i love the OIX
Mar 10 18:21:25 <Josh_Rossi>	money votes a lot more honestly than opinions
Mar 10 18:21:26 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ticker m oix
Mar 10 18:21:29 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Mar 10 18:21:57 <Josh_Rossi>	nevermind
Mar 10 18:22:24 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker s.mpoe
Mar 10 18:22:25 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 10 18:22:25 <assbot>	Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
Mar 10 18:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00074997 / 0.00074998 / 0.00075 (91316 shares, 68.49 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074861 / 0.00078628 (10612769 shares, 7,944.90 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00068478 / 0.00078628 (57848323 shares, 39,613.60 BTC)
Mar 10 18:22:31 <the-bucket-shop>	;;ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 10 18:22:39 <Josh_Rossi>	OIX:49.80
Mar 10 18:24:28 <Josh_Rossi>	;;calc (49.80-41)/49.80
Mar 10 18:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	gribble's ded
Mar 10 18:24:28 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Mar 10 18:24:29 <gribble>	0.176706827309
Mar 10 18:25:20 <Josh_Rossi>	hmmm think that 41 call is a good price right now on the ask side
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Mar 10 18:25:55 <mircea_popescu>	if it keeps going up yeah
Mar 10 18:26:37 <Josh_Rossi>	well, i just meant in relation to the OIX
Mar 10 18:27:17 <Josh_Rossi>	but also 41: .17 | 43: .15 | 45 .17
Mar 10 18:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	haha yeah
Mar 10 18:29:11 <Josh_Rossi>	those were actually bids, not asks...
Mar 10 18:30:42 <mircea_popescu>	yeah somebody is overbidding the bot on the 45s
Mar 10 18:30:56 <Josh_Rossi>	yep
Mar 10 18:30:59 <Josh_Rossi>	interesting
Mar 10 18:31:11 <Josh_Rossi>	wish i could write some options
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Mar 10 18:31:57 <Josh_Rossi>	could write next month puts at 43 and basically buy this months 43 call
Mar 10 18:33:01 <mircea_popescu>	so go ahead
Mar 10 18:33:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 47 @ 0.000725 = 0.0341 BTC [+]
Mar 10 18:35:04 <Josh_Rossi>	can you do that in coinbr?
Mar 10 18:35:28 <Josh_Rossi>	too poor for mpex at the moment, but hopefully soon
Mar 10 18:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	i think jurovdoes it by request
Mar 10 18:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	smickles might be doing it too
Mar 10 18:36:12 <Josh_Rossi>	oh nice
Mar 10 18:36:32 <Josh_Rossi>	kinda pissed i didn't get into s.dice at .35
Mar 10 18:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	it was there for what, like 3 months ?
Mar 10 18:36:58 <mircea_popescu>	then suddenly whooosh
Mar 10 18:37:01 <Josh_Rossi>	yeah
Mar 10 18:37:11 <Josh_Rossi>	but it finally pulled back
Mar 10 18:37:18 <topace_>	at 20000 btc profit in a month will do that :p
Mar 10 18:37:24 <Josh_Rossi>	yep
Mar 10 18:37:34 <Josh_Rossi>	last month was only 17k though right?
Mar 10 18:37:40 <topace_>	yea
Mar 10 18:37:55 <topace_>	but those 17k were worth like, 40% more when converted to fiat
Mar 10 18:38:02 <Josh_Rossi>	yes for sure
Mar 10 18:38:10 <Josh_Rossi>	record setting in fiat
Mar 10 18:38:14 <Josh_Rossi>	usd at least
Mar 10 18:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	i saw recently s.dice paid like 70k total
Mar 10 18:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	over 7 months
Mar 10 18:39:38 <Josh_Rossi>	yeah, it is a great stock to own i think
Mar 10 18:39:52 <Josh_Rossi>	i have mpoe and sdice and i contract
Mar 10 18:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	i've been spending the past hours looking at various mpex graphs
Mar 10 18:41:35 <Josh_Rossi>	ok, think later this week i will try some otc purchases
Mar 10 18:41:41 <mircea_popescu>	the stuff is fascinating somehow
Mar 10 18:42:23 <Josh_Rossi>	yeah, i like looking at historical data, but i rarely think it predicts the future
Mar 10 18:42:36 <Josh_Rossi>	i think "chart analysis" = augury
Mar 10 18:43:19 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 10 18:43:27 <Josh_Rossi>	well...i mean in btc it is pretty easy to see that it is trending upwards
Mar 10 18:43:38 <Josh_Rossi>	but once people say "cup and handle"
Mar 10 18:43:43 <Josh_Rossi>	"head and shoulders"
Mar 10 18:43:51 <BitHub>	hows the contract stuff going?
Mar 10 18:44:28 <Josh_Rossi>	me?
Mar 10 18:44:43 <BitHub>	yeah :)
Mar 10 18:44:58 <Josh_Rossi>	hmmm...i only have 1 option contract at 41 sso that is decent
Mar 10 18:45:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00899 BTC [+]
Mar 10 18:45:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00899 BTC [+]
Mar 10 18:45:20 <Josh_Rossi>	but as far as business stuff i am trying to write drivers to grab market data for a crossing engine
Mar 10 18:45:42 <Josh_Rossi>	but that is kinda tough
Mar 10 18:45:57 <Josh_Rossi>	when i am good at neither c# or javascript
Mar 10 18:46:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 48 @ 0.009 = 0.432 BTC [+]
Mar 10 18:46:09 <Josh_Rossi>	but i'll muddle through
Mar 10 18:46:12 <BitHub>	i'm good at making movies
Mar 10 18:46:40 <Josh_Rossi>	seen the documentary?
Mar 10 18:47:39 <Josh_Rossi>	also, i am having a lot of fun with trying to do different roles to set up a company
Mar 10 18:47:39 <Josh_Rossi>	looking into gnucash for my accounting stuff
Mar 10 18:47:39 <Josh_Rossi>	going to try and design the logo (fingers crossed)
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Mar 10 18:48:27 <Josh_Rossi>	has anyone seen a font that includes the double barred B?
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Mar 10 18:53:40 <the-bucket-shop>	!mp
Mar 10 18:53:40 <the-bucket-shop>	;;mp
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Mar 10 18:54:55 <gribble>	Error: "messageparser" is not a valid command.
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Mar 10 18:56:34 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Mar 10 18:56:36 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225257 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 534 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 23 hours, 12 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4880505.1893 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.73635
Mar 10 18:56:45 <BitHub>	yeah watched a bit of it, pretty good
Mar 10 18:57:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.61199999 BTC [+]
Mar 10 18:57:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.612 BTC [+]
Mar 10 18:57:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6149999 = 3.075 BTC [+]
Mar 10 18:57:50 <assbot>	Please use http://dpaste.com/
Mar 10 19:00:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 19:01:41 <the-bucket-shop>	;;mp http://dpaste.com/1018705/
Mar 10 19:01:41 <the-bucket-shop>	little help?
Mar 10 19:01:41 <the-bucket-shop>	mp! http://dpaste.com/1018705/
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Mar 10 19:01:41 <gribble>	Error: The "MessageParser" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "http://dpaste.com/1018705/" in it.  Try "list MessageParser" to see the commands in the "MessageParser" plugin.
Mar 10 19:02:12 <the-bucket-shop>	that's not what mp stands for gribble.  you must be new
Mar 10 19:02:25 <kakobrekla>	the-bucket-shop
Mar 10 19:02:30 <kakobrekla>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1018705/
Mar 10 19:02:31 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 10 19:02:33 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1018708/plain/
Mar 10 19:02:36 <kakobrekla>	there ya go
Mar 10 19:02:46 <kakobrekla>	(its yours)
Mar 10 19:02:48 <the-bucket-shop>	thanks kakobrekla
Mar 10 19:03:42 <the-bucket-shop>	my key stopped working.  not sure how to use the right one.  sorry for the noise everyone.
Mar 10 19:04:40 <kakobrekla>	did you update your mpex public key
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Mar 10 19:05:02 <kakobrekla>	ah its your private that is off
Mar 10 19:05:22 <kakobrekla>	hrm
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Mar 10 19:05:34 <kakobrekla>	check you are signing with the right one
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Mar 10 19:06:29 <the-bucket-shop>	thanks kafka
Mar 10 19:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	the-bucket-shop make sure you're using the right mpex key
Mar 10 19:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	if you're not it will say YOUR key is blown.
Mar 10 19:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	it just basically means "couldn't get a key we know"
Mar 10 19:07:03 <the-bucket-shop>	do I need to change the mpex key to use apex.coinbr.co
Mar 10 19:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.0059998 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Mar 10 19:07:05 <the-bucket-shop>	m
Mar 10 19:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	no, you have to use the new mpex key
Mar 10 19:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	it switched on the 10th. this was announced like last month. do you have it ?
Mar 10 19:08:34 <the-bucket-shop>	I did nothing to update a key.  must have ignored the announcement.
Mar 10 19:08:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
Mar 10 19:08:52 <mircea_popescu>	a ok 1 sec
Mar 10 19:09:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/9M25zBr7 the-bucket-shop
Mar 10 19:10:06 <the-bucket-shop>	mp sending you some money if I can get through this.
Mar 10 19:10:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 130 @ 0.000726 = 0.0944 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 19:13:30 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 10 19:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.00594579 / 0.006 (30568 shares, 181.75 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.005599 / 0.006225 (409396 shares, 2,292.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616121 / 0.0069 (3629525 shares, 22,362.28 BTC)
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Mar 10 19:26:25 <Bugpowder>	!help
Mar 10 19:26:25 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 10 19:26:25 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 10 19:26:26 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
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Mar 10 19:30:00 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder mpex.coinbr.com
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Mar 10 19:30:56 <Bugpowder>	I see its back
Mar 10 19:31:19 <Bugpowder>	I totally forgot how to manually sign and encrypt the orders
Mar 10 19:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 10 19:33:32 <Bugpowder>	looks like the panic has subsided
Mar 10 19:34:08 <the-bucket-shop>	I've got a working STAT, but I'd like to get rid of this message before sending money There is no assurance this key belongs to the named user
Mar 10 19:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	sign the key
Mar 10 19:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 10 19:34:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.62989, Best ask: 45.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16011, Last trade: 45.79000, 24 hour volume: 36079.61301029, 24 hour low: 45.51000, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.85896
Mar 10 19:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.61887999 = 5.5699 BTC [+]
Mar 10 19:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.61887999 = 12.9965 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 19:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.6188888 = 5.57 BTC [+]
Mar 10 19:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.61899899 BTC [+]
Mar 10 19:40:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.618999 = 1.238 BTC [+]
Mar 10 19:40:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.619 = 1.238 BTC [+]
Mar 10 19:40:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.619 = 3.095 BTC [+]
Mar 10 19:40:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.6199991 = 3.72 BTC [+]
Mar 10 19:40:12 <Bugpowder>	gotta prep for job talk.  Peace out.  See yall in a few days.
Mar 10 19:40:30 <Bugpowder>	make S.DICE hit .0065 while i'm gone please
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Mar 10 19:41:31 <error4733>	http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/satoshidice.com/
Mar 10 19:42:01 <pizzaman1337>	oh noes
Mar 10 19:42:34 <pizzaman1337>	bets are still active and working though, it appears
Mar 10 19:43:26 <dub>	at least its showing the same market reaction as mpex, site down price up
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Mar 10 19:43:56 <the-bucket-shop>	seems there's a need for a distributed list of addresses.  wikileaks style.  not sure how to prevent fraud on that though
Mar 10 19:44:47 <pizzaman1337>	the addresses are built into blockchain.info's wallet
Mar 10 19:46:41 <the-bucket-shop>	anyone care to make that known on bitcointalk.org,  or is this my responsibility?  I haven't seen satoshidice at the top of the agenda over there for at least 12 hours.
Mar 10 19:48:44 <the-bucket-shop>	my friend, fancy_pants is going to ham it up sky is falling where are the bitcoin police.  hopefully someone will correct any inaccuracies.
Mar 10 19:49:03 <pizzaman1337>	I wonder if it's getting DDoS'd by the same people/person who are/is attacking mpex
Mar 10 19:49:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 10 19:50:38 <error4733>	80% yes
Mar 10 19:51:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 10 19:51:16 <error4733>	make sens
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Mar 10 19:52:26 <error4733>	but like say above, the script is ok ! pp play atm
Mar 10 19:54:26 <Ukto>	http://i.imgur.com/KzY4tPF.jpg - avalons in stacks and what appears alot more already packaged in the background (older image, but amusing)
Mar 10 19:54:30 <smickles>	jurov: how come http://mpex.coinbr.com/mpex-mktdepth.php starts with a "JurovP"
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Mar 10 19:55:06 <smickles>	er, "JurovP(" and ends with a ")", that's not json :P
Mar 10 19:55:26 <smickles>	oh, and there's a semi-colon at the end too @.@
Mar 10 19:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's some javascript thing i tihnk
Mar 10 19:55:50 <mircea_popescu>	there's two files. one's made like a function for some browsingreason
Mar 10 19:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	jurvo asked for it.
Mar 10 19:56:21 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i'm coding a nice looking gui client for mpex and plan on selling it for 1 btc
Mar 10 19:56:27 <mircea_popescu>	haha cool idea.
Mar 10 19:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, let me look here.
Mar 10 19:57:05 <smickles>	it'll be for linux, win, mac, and android
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Mar 10 19:57:51 <the-bucket-shop>	that ruby thing doesn't compile on my mac or hacked iPhone.
Mar 10 19:58:21 <the-bucket-shop>	it doesn't matter, but thought you'd like the feedback
Mar 10 19:58:39 <smickles>	the-bucket-shop: FabianB's ruby thing?
Mar 10 19:58:42 <mircea_popescu>	smickles one's vwap-json and the other jsonp
Mar 10 19:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	you using the jsonp ?
Mar 10 19:59:03 <smickles>	uh, mpex-mktdepth.php?
Mar 10 19:59:06 <the-bucket-shop>	that name doesn't ring a bell.  it was called mpex
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Mar 10 19:59:40 <the-bucket-shop>	Fa Wuxi copyright
Mar 10 20:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	mpex-mktdepth.php / mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php
Mar 10 20:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	mpex-vwap.php / mpex-vwap-jsonp.php
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Mar 10 20:01:14 <smickles>	both mpex-mktdepth.php / mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php have that JurovP bit at the beginning
Mar 10 20:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	o noway
Mar 10 20:01:57 <pizzaman1337>	heh, yeah
Mar 10 20:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	for chrissakes. bleeding cache.
Mar 10 20:02:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's getting fixed.
Mar 10 20:02:23 <smickles>	my cache?
Mar 10 20:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	nono mine
Mar 10 20:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	smickles hm, i just loaded mpex-mktdepth.php
Mar 10 20:04:00 <mircea_popescu>	and it is behaving normally ?
Mar 10 20:04:31 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: thru the coinbr proxy or directly?
Mar 10 20:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	that's a point o.o
Mar 10 20:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck ?!
Mar 10 20:05:52 <error4733>	yes !
Mar 10 20:05:55 <smickles>	i dunno, but i'd hate to code in something to handle that, then when the main site comes back online it fucks stuff up
Mar 10 20:06:29 <mircea_popescu>	this is so weird, because vwap does not show the same behaviour
Mar 10 20:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	and it's just a proxy, wtf, it randomly changes ONE url ?
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Mar 10 20:08:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 10 20:08:46 <pizzaman1337>	when you update the .php on mpex's servers does it need to be manually updated on proxies?
Mar 10 20:09:07 <pizzaman1337>	I'm not sure how the proxy system works
Mar 10 20:09:19 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 a. the file;s never been updated in montsh (really, since jurov wanted the procedure thing)
Mar 10 20:09:21 <pizzaman1337>	it would be cool if you could distribute something for people to setup their own proxies
Mar 10 20:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	and b. the proxies just php proxy, it's fixed
Mar 10 20:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	this has been distributed already hehe
Mar 10 20:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	let me find it
Mar 10 20:09:48 <pizzaman1337>	oh, ok
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Mar 10 20:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 http://pastebin.com/vRzjux7e scroll
Mar 10 20:11:57 <pizzaman1337>	ok, cool
Mar 10 20:12:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1999 = 0.3998 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 20:15:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 9 @ 0.009 = 0.081 BTC [+]
Mar 10 20:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65000 @ 0.00075 = 48.75 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 20:21:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 7 @ 0.000726 = 0.0051 BTC [+]
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Mar 10 20:29:09 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 10 20:29:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.00594579 / 0.006 (30568 shares, 181.75 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.005599 / 0.006225 (409396 shares, 2,292.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616121 / 0.0069 (3629525 shares, 22,362.28 BTC)
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Mar 10 20:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb hey, are you vampire on forum ?
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Mar 10 20:31:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 108 @ 0.0059998 = 0.648 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:31:39 <vampireb>	correct.
Mar 10 20:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 10 20:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	thanks for the offer, but vps couldn't really take it.
Mar 10 20:33:45 <vampireb>	you probably should extend the irc bot to show depth
Mar 10 20:34:33 <mircea_popescu>	$depth
Mar 10 20:34:36 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/5Xw7ySxD
Mar 10 20:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, you can go to mpex.coinbr.com
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Mar 10 20:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	and enjoy the mpex site in all its glory.
Mar 10 20:35:37 <vampireb>	i dont really need to go there
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Mar 10 20:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.592 = 1.184 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:37:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.59100005 = 8.865 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:37:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59100001 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:37:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.591 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:37:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:39:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5850001 = 5.265 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:39:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.585 = 2.925 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:39:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.581 = 20.335 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.581 = 2.324 BTC [-]
Mar 10 20:41:59 <vampireb>	chromebooks are awesome, except can't remap keys. which makes using irssi a challenge
Mar 10 20:43:52 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 10 20:43:55 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225274 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 517 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 19 hours, 4 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4893908.51557 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.04321
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Mar 10 20:44:30 <vampireb>	by the time i;ll get my asic from brl the diff will be at 10mil
Mar 10 20:44:33 <vampireb>	bfl
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Mar 10 20:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	yu'e getting an asic from bfl ?
Mar 10 20:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	what sorcery is this
Mar 10 20:45:32 <vampireb>	the hot one, jalapeno. ~160 is pocket change
Mar 10 20:45:36 <dub>	the only thing for sure with bfl is that there will be eleventy threads created about them today
Mar 10 20:45:43 <kakobrekla>	i read that 'yu'e getting an ascii from bfl ?'
Mar 10 20:45:54 <vampireb>	oh may be getting
Mar 10 20:46:03 <vampireb>	i dont follow "hardware" topics
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Mar 10 20:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	thing is the asic market is huge.
Mar 10 20:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	i'd buy some if there actually existed any.
Mar 10 20:47:11 <vampireb>	i just needed a coffee cup warmer, i hopefully they can deliver that at least
Mar 10 20:47:52 <kakobrekla>	coffe cup warmers dont work
Mar 10 20:48:04 <kakobrekla>	i had a glass made specifically for it
Mar 10 20:48:09 <kakobrekla>	with a flat and metal surface
Mar 10 20:48:12 <kakobrekla>	and it worked shit.
Mar 10 20:48:24 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148335.msg1609151#msg1609151 I thought those looked like even worse underfill examples not chipped die
Mar 10 20:48:28 <kakobrekla>	suface = bottom
Mar 10 20:48:37 <BitHub>	can i buy something right now they'll at least make me 1btc a day, even when all the avalons come or whatever i can still mine 1btc a day?
Mar 10 20:48:54 <BitHub>	that will sorry
Mar 10 20:49:21 <vampireb>	no?
Mar 10 20:49:27 <vampireb>	the mining diffuculty will go up
Mar 10 20:49:30 <BitHub>	ghey
Mar 10 20:49:45 <dub>	you could buy a 1btc/day mining contract
Mar 10 20:49:53 <BitHub>	i could?
Mar 10 20:50:02 <dub>	sure, I'll sell you one for 60btc/month
Mar 10 20:50:21 <BitHub>	done send me all your details
Mar 10 20:50:33 <kakobrekla>	earth months?
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Mar 10 20:51:49 <BitHub>	anyone want any asicminer shares? i want out
Mar 10 20:52:14 <dub>	how much?
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Mar 10 20:52:25 <BitHub>	1.8 btc each
Mar 10 20:52:35 <dub>	sounds legit
Mar 10 20:52:57 <BitHub>	for you dubs 2.0
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Mar 10 20:54:07 <mod6>	well looks like intrade is done: http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/
Mar 10 20:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	heh
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Mar 10 20:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	"make bitbet more like intrade"
Mar 10 20:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub maybe shares or bonds.
Mar 10 20:55:56 <BitHub>	hmmm
Mar 10 20:56:02 <BitHub>	i already tried that
Mar 10 20:56:07 <dub>	has dice commented on the downtime?
Mar 10 20:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	didn't work too good ?
Mar 10 20:56:13 <mircea_popescu>	dub not afaik.
Mar 10 20:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	but im guessing ddos.
Mar 10 20:57:15 <BitHub>	it was okey just want to do something myself or mine some coins myself or something
Mar 10 20:57:29 <vampireb>	dice is on amazon
Mar 10 20:57:29 <mircea_popescu>	ah yes
Mar 10 20:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	that drives many.
Mar 10 20:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb so ?
Mar 10 20:57:56 <vampireb>	so ddos shouldnt be as effective :)
Mar 10 20:58:18 <BitHub>	waiting for something new to put my coins into
Mar 10 20:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb i lost some amazons,
Mar 10 20:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lost one too. it can be done.
Mar 10 20:59:06 <vampireb>	it can be done, no denying that.
Mar 10 21:02:30 <dub>	looks like its up
Mar 10 21:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	i just sent a less than 1
Mar 10 21:04:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 10 21:08:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01989 BTC [+]
Mar 10 21:08:54 <benkay>	$depth
Mar 10 21:08:58 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/06Yf5w4j
Mar 10 21:16:14 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 10 21:16:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.71717, Best ask: 45.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18283, Last trade: 45.90000, 24 hour volume: 36180.55424484, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.81412
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Mar 10 21:18:59 <benkay>	was the mpex bot not spitting back at dpaste  just recently?
Mar 10 21:19:03 <benkay>	i coulda swore...
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Mar 10 21:22:41 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 10 21:22:42 <gribble>	0 seconds
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Mar 10 21:32:12 <Josh_Rossi>	whats up everyone
Mar 10 21:34:07 <Josh_Rossi>	http://imgur.com/O7ioK9D&NkxCSHS
Mar 10 21:34:26 <Josh_Rossi>	let me know what you think lol
Mar 10 21:34:27 <kakobrekla>	whats that
Mar 10 21:34:36 <Josh_Rossi>	my first attempt at logo design lol
Mar 10 21:34:39 <kakobrekla>	a duck
Mar 10 21:34:41 <Josh_Rossi>	it's not great
Mar 10 21:34:46 <Josh_Rossi>	black swan
Mar 10 21:34:54 <kakobrekla>	goes quack no?
Mar 10 21:34:57 <Josh_Rossi>	hehehe
Mar 10 21:34:58 <Josh_Rossi>	yeah
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Mar 10 21:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	that's not a logo dood. what do you think a logo is ?
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Mar 10 21:44:05 <dub>	at first glance its says bitches
Mar 10 21:44:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
Mar 10 21:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	benkay assbot spits dpaste, mpexbot pastebin
Mar 10 21:44:49 <mircea_popescu>	redundancy ftw
Mar 10 21:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.74 BTC [-]
Mar 10 21:45:22 <benkay>	y u no give me plain json?
Mar 10 21:45:34 <benkay>	with this freepaste services
Mar 10 21:45:42 <benkay>	parse all the things...
Mar 10 21:45:51 <mircea_popescu>	they have raw ?
Mar 10 21:46:08 <benkay>	i'm not serious
Mar 10 21:46:33 <Josh_Rossi>	well it was mostly for the login page on the google apps website
Mar 10 21:46:47 <Josh_Rossi>	so it wouldn't need to have google logo
Mar 10 21:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	Josh_Rossi a logo is not an image, as in, a bmp.
Mar 10 21:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	a logo is a design, such as a vector file.
Mar 10 21:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	a concept anyway. must be scalable.
Mar 10 21:48:14 <Josh_Rossi>	yes
Mar 10 21:48:21 <Josh_Rossi>	this was just for that specific image
Mar 10 21:48:32 <Josh_Rossi>	which was limited to 159x43 px or something like that
Mar 10 21:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	mkay.
Mar 10 21:48:41 <Josh_Rossi>	hold on, i'll show you how it looks
Mar 10 21:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	i lost my less than 1 bet
Mar 10 21:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	fucking scam.
Mar 10 21:49:55 <Josh_Rossi>	http://imgur.com/5UYrCwq
Mar 10 21:50:29 <Josh_Rossi>	anyway, just a first step
Mar 10 21:50:43 <Josh_Rossi>	i was masochistic, so I used GIMP
Mar 10 21:50:53 <kakobrekla>	whats the service about
Mar 10 21:51:10 <Josh_Rossi>	Eventually it should be an investment vehicle
Mar 10 21:51:52 <Josh_Rossi>	ie. you can get shares in your brokerage account, and basically track the broad based bitcoin economy
Mar 10 21:52:04 <Josh_Rossi>	that's the ultimate goal
Mar 10 21:52:13 <Josh_Rossi>	an etf
Mar 10 21:52:26 <Josh_Rossi>	till then, just having fun trying to build things
Mar 10 21:53:10 <Josh_Rossi>	have a few projects, but I figured I would need a site, and all the other stuff eventually and that was the best domain name i could find
Mar 10 21:53:43 <BitHub>	i'm selling digicreds.com if you're intrested
Mar 10 21:56:02 <Josh_Rossi>	i got btcshares, btc-etf, and one other one
Mar 10 21:56:47 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ticker
Mar 10 21:56:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.00000, Best ask: 46.22987, Bid-ask spread: 0.22987, Last trade: 46.22887, 24 hour volume: 33473.44140151, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.74346
Mar 10 21:57:27 <kakobrekla>	i have bitcoin-assets.com and it has ass so beat that.
Mar 10 21:57:53 <Josh_Rossi>	that is an awesome one
Mar 10 21:58:19 <Josh_Rossi>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 10 21:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.00594598 / 0.006 (30676 shares, 182.40 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.0055991 / 0.006225 (409504 shares, 2,292.86 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616274 / 0.0069 (3619271 shares, 22,304.65 BTC)
Mar 10 21:58:24 <kakobrekla>	ya it was free until like a week ago
Mar 10 22:04:53 <Josh_Rossi>	pretty sweet
Mar 10 22:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	titsets.
Mar 10 22:07:12 <BitHub>	hehe @ it has ass
Mar 10 22:08:12 <BitHub>	i think i found the right music for a bitcoin type action film
Mar 10 22:08:14 <BitHub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JuBsif1RqM
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Mar 10 22:15:40 <dub>	I think this is more appropriate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1EG-MKy4so
Mar 10 22:15:50 <error4733>	BitHub : or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCuYX4ZGLuA
Mar 10 22:16:36 <BitHub>	hehe checking them out
Mar 10 22:16:52 <BitHub>	hah dub wtf
Mar 10 22:17:14 <BitHub>	that's definitly the soundtrack to the mircea character
Mar 10 22:17:20 <dub>	please tell me you've seen that before
Mar 10 22:17:27 <BitHub>	haha nah man
Mar 10 22:17:32 <dub>	if not, you've failed at internet
Mar 10 22:17:42 <BitHub>	that's because i win at real life
Mar 10 22:18:04 <BitHub>	rubber chicken, nice
Mar 10 22:19:03 <error4733>	old school
Mar 10 22:19:04 <dub>	if the film coveres bitcointalk you'll need this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q15fB7E28Zs
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Mar 10 22:19:33 <BitHub>	hah yeah this one i've seen
Mar 10 22:19:38 <BitHub>	seems like more of a 4chan theme
Mar 10 22:20:26 <dub>	4chan is a much more serious and useful site than bitcointalk
Mar 10 22:20:45 <error4733>	sunday : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_JmXCNPs6Y
Mar 10 22:20:47 <kakobrekla>	meh
Mar 10 22:20:49 <kakobrekla>	id put this one
Mar 10 22:20:51 <kakobrekla>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdvTkddp1F0
Mar 10 22:21:46 <dub>	seen teh new one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq57BjBVq7o
Mar 10 22:21:52 <BitHub>	i'm not working on a bitcoin film heh but i am intrested in making some bitcoin commercials
Mar 10 22:23:59 <kakobrekla>	lyrics aint that bad
Mar 10 22:24:02 <kakobrekla>	but the song
Mar 10 22:24:06 <kakobrekla>	ugh.
Mar 10 22:24:46 <error4733>	This is Bitcoin ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qAfUhoubbDQ   200m/h
Mar 10 22:25:53 <error4733>	kako : haha priceless
Mar 10 22:26:39 <BitHub>	hah error heard that one
Mar 10 22:31:15 <error4733>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WiXMcsfvXE
Mar 10 22:31:46 <error4733>	BTC at  $5 in background
Mar 10 22:31:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.0059998 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Mar 10 22:32:42 <benkay>	$depth
Mar 10 22:32:46 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/P3vXpBCB
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Mar 10 22:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
Mar 10 22:46:16 <smickles>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 10 22:46:18 <mpexbot>	smickles: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Mar 10 22:46:22 <smickles>	bah
Mar 10 22:48:06 <benkay>	$depth
Mar 10 22:48:09 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/4QrxFBuQ
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Mar 10 23:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies
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Mar 10 23:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/9920666/Germanys-anti-euro-party-is-a-nasty-shock-for-Angela-Merkel.html
Mar 10 23:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	fuckwit should never have allied with the russians.
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Mar 10 23:07:15 <smickles>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 10 23:07:17 <mpexbot>	smickles: {u'S': [[100000, 10000], [75000, 244641], [77988, 1399], [78500, 500000], [78000, 500000], [76718, 17454], [100000000, 10000], [78984, 23163], [79000, 450000], [1000000, 2000], [10000000, 2000], [77999, 54540], [1000000, 100000]], u'B': [[53500, 168150], [101, 10000000], [55000, 340602], [100, 10000000], [38150, 14391957], [55500, 150000], [40000, 150000], [55501, 500], [38151, 5000], (1 more message)
Mar 10 23:07:23 <smickles>	har!
Mar 10 23:07:47 <benkay>	$depth
Mar 10 23:07:49 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/LfUZXwdm
Mar 10 23:08:00 <benkay>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 10 23:08:04 <mpexbot>	benkay: {u'S': [[100000, 10000], [75000, 244641], [77988, 1399], [78500, 500000], [78000, 500000], [76718, 17454], [100000000, 10000], [78984, 23163], [79000, 450000], [1000000, 2000], [10000000, 2000], [77999, 54540], [1000000, 100000]], u'B': [[53500, 168150], [101, 10000000], [55000, 340602], [100, 10000000], [38150, 14391957], [55500, 150000], [40000, 150000], [55501, 500], [38151, 5000], (1 more message)
Mar 10 23:08:25 <benkay>	implying there's a max message size on this irc network?
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Mar 10 23:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	that's kinda spammy
Mar 10 23:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	smickles could it return just 4 each side ?
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Mar 10 23:18:26 <benkay>	$depth
Mar 10 23:18:29 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/3Xs9nGD8
Mar 10 23:24:35 <benkay>	$depth
Mar 10 23:24:45 <benkay>	this is getting annoying.
Mar 10 23:24:48 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/MgkTxcBr
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Mar 10 23:40:03 <kakobrekla>	fuckin people.
Mar 10 23:40:31 <benkay>	what now?
Mar 10 23:41:43 <kakobrekla>	im no good for support
Mar 10 23:41:48 <kakobrekla>	get too upset.
Mar 10 23:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	aww!
Mar 10 23:47:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it's spammy now b/c it's just the primitive. I plan to do exactly what you say, a range around the center. for now, peeps should just use it in pm
Mar 10 23:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	kk
Mar 10 23:48:06 <smickles>	benkay: can I make it better somehow?
Mar 10 23:48:33 <smickles>	like this http://imgur.com/fwa71Fj maybe?
Mar 10 23:48:36 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg1609580#msg1609580 repentance I am dissapoint
Mar 10 23:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	what, repentance is here ?
Mar 10 23:49:11 <dub>	idk
Mar 10 23:49:15 <dub>	doubt it
Mar 10 23:49:42 <benkay>	what's that?
Mar 10 23:49:45 <benkay>	something custom?
Mar 10 23:49:52 <benkay>	product in the wild?
Mar 10 23:50:19 <smickles>	benkay: an mpex gui which i'm developing
Mar 10 23:50:37 <smickles>	should work on linux, win, mac, and android
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Mar 10 23:51:17 <smickles>	each of those platforms has all the dependancies it requires
Mar 10 23:51:25 <smickles>	iOS? no
Mar 10 23:51:28 <benkay>	neat
Mar 10 23:51:34 <benkay>	of course not
Mar 10 23:51:40 <benkay>	that damn platform
Mar 10 23:51:52 <smickles>	not to mention i don't have a mac, and you need xcode to make an ios app
Mar 10 23:51:58 <benkay>	see above
Mar 10 23:52:09 <benkay>	that's cool
Mar 10 23:52:17 <dub>	that and nobody uses iphone
Mar 10 23:52:25 <dub>	barrign fanboys and homosexuals
Mar 10 23:52:35 <smickles>	you could sa the same about windows
Mar 10 23:52:38 <smickles>	;D
Mar 10 23:52:38 <benkay>	there's this one market i'm interested in
Mar 10 23:52:43 <benkay>	lots of disposable income
Mar 10 23:52:50 <benkay>	sold on ui investments
Mar 10 23:53:03 <dub>	its homos
Mar 10 23:53:13 <benkay>	enlightened commentary
Mar 10 23:53:27 <MJR_>	nice
Mar 10 23:53:28 <smickles>	dub, not homos, dinks
Mar 10 23:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	dub homosexuals trade too you know
Mar 10 23:53:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01301 BTC [-]
Mar 10 23:53:41 <MJR_>	I finally got pgp working on the iPhone
Mar 10 23:53:49 <MJR_>	;;ident
Mar 10 23:53:50 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
Mar 10 23:53:58 <benkay>	bigotry aside, i'd actually like the full json in this irc channel
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Mar 10 23:54:13 <benkay>	or another
Mar 10 23:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	wd MJR_
Mar 10 23:54:18 <smickles>	wow, I thought you addy was 1Loki for a sec there
Mar 10 23:54:31 <dub>	im a dink and she's only got one cause its work provided
Mar 10 23:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	benkay full json what ?
Mar 10 23:54:42 <benkay>	depth
Mar 10 23:54:48 <benkay>	$vwap
Mar 10 23:54:49 <pigeons>	dont talk to him, we dont need his kind here, fuckin macs
Mar 10 23:54:51 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/3Z4a24q1
Mar 10 23:54:51 <smickles>	dub: work provided baby?
Mar 10 23:54:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.013 BTC [-]
Mar 10 23:54:57 <MJR_>	I know, it was a close one
Mar 10 23:55:07 <MJR_>	I kinda want a vanity address
Mar 10 23:55:12 <dub>	smickles: iphone
Mar 10 23:55:16 <benkay>	i just don't really like the tiny little bit of fragility that parsing that url introduces
Mar 10 23:55:17 <dub>	you can't be a dink with a baby
Mar 10 23:55:28 <benkay>	it's not a big deal though because i think i'm going to cache the ticker
Mar 10 23:55:56 <benkay>	*shrug*
Mar 10 23:56:19 <benkay>	thoughts?
Mar 10 23:56:26 <smickles>	benkay: would you prefer the raw pastebin?
Mar 10 23:56:31 <benkay>	much
Mar 10 23:56:40 <benkay>	a url pointing directly to raw makes me much more the happy
Mar 10 23:56:43 <smickles>	i'll switch it then
Mar 10 23:56:46 <benkay>	!
Mar 10 23:56:48 <benkay>	thanks.
Mar 10 23:56:51 <dub>	this is gold http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtZs4Gj2lKw
Mar 10 23:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	benkay incidentally, why not suck directly the url ?
Mar 10 23:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	or what are you trying to do ?
Mar 10 23:57:16 <benkay>	'cause scraping
Mar 10 23:57:21 <benkay>	don' wanna
Mar 10 23:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	uh listen
Mar 10 23:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.coinbr.com/mpex-vwap.php
Mar 10 23:57:51 <benkay>	bril.
Mar 10 23:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.coinbr.com/mpex-mktdepth.php
Mar 10 23:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	it's where the bot gets them from
Mar 10 23:58:10 <benkay>	okay
Mar 10 23:58:11 <benkay>	thanks
Mar 10 23:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	obviously you shoudl code proxy-aware and bot-aware, but for a begining this should bridge you i think
Mar 10 23:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	at least to prototype
Mar 10 23:58:26 <benkay>	i'm going to go ragedelete a whole branch
Mar 10 23:58:31 <benkay>	brb
Mar 10 23:58:38 <benkay>	back
Mar 10 23:59:09 <benkay>	jokes, 90% of it's reusable.
Mar 10 23:59:25 <Ukto>	wonder how long it will be till someone ddos' coinbr
Mar 10 23:59:36 <Ukto>	i'm sure bitvps will love that :P
Mar 11 00:00:01 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto that was yest's news,
Mar 11 00:00:03 <dub>	presumably he moved off shitvps
Mar 11 00:00:10 <Ukto>	oh?
Mar 11 00:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	they got their dinky little dc blown to bits, jurov moved
Mar 11 00:00:20 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: sorry, i spend my days working. :P
Mar 11 00:00:21 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: what data feeds do you recommend for production sites hooking into mpex?
Mar 11 00:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	benkay my name is going to become "what are you trying to do"
Mar 11 00:00:43 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: i am offering a new service
Mar 11 00:00:47 <Ukto>	or considering making it available
Mar 11 00:00:56 <Ukto>	that would be very good for this kinda thing
Mar 11 00:00:59 <Ukto>	pm me if your interested
Mar 11 00:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ?
Mar 11 00:01:00 <Ukto>	:)
Mar 11 00:01:09 <mircea_popescu>	is it secret ?!
Mar 11 00:01:10 <Ukto>	since its not public yet
Mar 11 00:01:11 <Ukto>	:)
Mar 11 00:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol k
Mar 11 00:03:41 <smickles>	benkay: try it now :)
Mar 11 00:03:47 <benkay>	$depth
Mar 11 00:03:49 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hzJcCSeG
Mar 11 00:03:58 <benkay>	beautimous
Mar 11 00:04:06 <benkay>	except that now i know about the coinbr data feed
Mar 11 00:04:13 <benkay>	and that doesn't change urls every 2 minutes
Mar 11 00:04:21 <benkay>	;)
Mar 11 00:04:36 <smickles>	heh, it's much the same data, no worries :)
Mar 11 00:04:43 <benkay>	thanks
Mar 11 00:04:53 <smickles>	the bot is mostly a backup anyway
Mar 11 00:04:57 <benkay>	it's great that you're open to suggestions like that
Mar 11 00:05:03 <benkay>	fast turnaround on something i didn't even ask for
Mar 11 00:05:55 <smickles>	thanks for the kind words
Mar 11 00:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	actually the raw response is prolly better
Mar 11 00:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250N] 15 @ 0.07613082 = 1.142 BTC
Mar 11 00:07:37 <benkay>	low bar for kindness in these parts
Mar 11 00:07:39 <benkay>	;)
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Mar 11 00:08:17 <mircea_popescu>	<MJR_> -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
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Mar 11 00:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Mar 11 00:08:37 <MJR_>	was a test...crashed my app
Mar 11 00:08:57 <smickles>	heh, have you seen some of the trolls around bitcoin. I should take it as kind that you haven't called me an incestuous pole vaulter or smt
Mar 11 00:09:02 <MJR_>	but you should be able to decrypt
Mar 11 00:09:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.35007 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:09:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.35 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Mar 11 00:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ it kicked you for spam.
Mar 11 00:09:43 <MJR_>	oh ok
Mar 11 00:10:01 <MJR_>	the message was too long?
Mar 11 00:10:08 <mircea_popescu>	too fast.
Mar 11 00:10:12 <kakobrekla>	that would be excess flood then
Mar 11 00:10:12 <MJR_>	oh
Mar 11 00:10:19 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 11 00:10:27 <MJR_>	should have pasted to dpaste
Mar 11 00:10:28 <kakobrekla>	not a closed connect.
Mar 11 00:10:36 <kakobrekla>	anyway im off
Mar 11 00:10:38 <kakobrekla>	later
Mar 11 00:10:42 <MJR_>	see
Mar 11 00:10:45 <MJR_>	you later
Mar 11 00:11:11 <benkay>	i've seen what constitutes ye olde online community
Mar 11 00:11:21 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: could you decrypt it?
Mar 11 00:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ it kicked you for spam. <<
Mar 11 00:11:49 <MJR_>	ah, you didn't get the whole thing then?
Mar 11 00:11:50 <benkay>	arguably the only thing i
Mar 11 00:11:58 <benkay>	i've ever learned about irc is to just rise above it
Mar 11 00:12:02 <benkay>	no matter what "it" is
Mar 11 00:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [-]
Mar 11 00:12:15 <benkay>	drama wise
Mar 11 00:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	just what you saw.
Mar 11 00:12:26 <MJR_>	oh ok hold on
Mar 11 00:12:51 <smickles>	;;gpg info smickles
Mar 11 00:12:51 <gribble>	User 'smickles', with keyid EA62D7CEB2450C3F, fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6, registered on Mon Jun 20 12:24:35 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=smickles . Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@67.222.146.32 .
Mar 11 00:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.69 BTC [-]
Mar 11 00:13:11 <topace_>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 11 00:13:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.58100000 / 0.59986625 / 0.61999910 (296 shares, 177.56040896 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.51862844 / 0.62950000 (1570 shares, 814.24665115 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.63440004 / 0.76500000 (5705 shares, 3619.25223897 BTC)
Mar 11 00:13:22 <MJR_>	http://dpaste.com/1018904/
Mar 11 00:13:33 <topace_>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 11 00:13:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.00594641 / 0.006 (30926 shares, 183.90 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00559971 / 0.006225 (408254 shares, 2,286.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616299 / 0.0069 (3616799 shares, 22,290.33 BTC)
Mar 11 00:13:51 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: that should work
Mar 11 00:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	okay.
Mar 11 00:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	it did.
Mar 11 00:14:10 <topace_>	!ticker h him
Mar 11 00:14:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.69000000 / 1.72102475 / 1.75000000 (24 shares, 41.30459400 BTC), 7D: 1.40001001 / 1.56164063 / 1.75000000 (149 shares, 232.68445435 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 3.13202977 / 18.00000000 (247 shares, 773.61135435 BTC)
Mar 11 00:14:20 <MJR_>	nice! encryption on the iPhone :)
Mar 11 00:14:27 <MJR_>	and tor browser
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Mar 11 00:15:41 <MJR_>	I would like to create a text message app that would auto encrypt texts, and allow the other side to decrypt easily
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Mar 11 00:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	not a bad idea
Mar 11 00:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	careful not to mess the key safety tho
Mar 11 00:18:43 <the-bucket-shop>	lot of dead bodies of companies who've tried encrypted im
Mar 11 00:19:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01989 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:19:07 <MJR_>	yeah
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Mar 11 00:19:19 <BitHub>	silentcircle.com
Mar 11 00:19:25 <the-bucket-shop>	sigaba
Mar 11 00:19:30 <MJR_>	figure the key exchange maps to "friend request"
Mar 11 00:19:32 <BitHub>	do this for bitcoin plz :)
Mar 11 00:20:32 <smickles>	;;gpg info mircea_popescu
Mar 11 00:20:32 <gribble>	User 'mircea_popescu', with keyid 8A736F0E2FB7B452, fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri Jul 22 05:39:10 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=mircea_popescu . Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu .
Mar 11 00:20:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.01989 = 0.0597 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:20:51 <MJR_>	I've always thought someone should make a social network/im that is totally encrypted, so no one but your "friends" can even possibly see your content
Mar 11 00:21:26 <MJR_>	like not even the host knows what you are posting
Mar 11 00:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	kinda a good idea
Mar 11 00:21:58 <BitHub>	blockchain.info style
Mar 11 00:22:15 <BitHub>	it's badly needed mjr
Mar 11 00:23:39 <the-bucket-shop>	badly needed until you ask for money.  then suddenly in the clear is just fine.  except for day trading of course
Mar 11 00:23:58 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 11 00:24:09 <MJR_>	im just an ADHD person
Mar 11 00:24:23 <MJR_>	silent circle looks interesting
Mar 11 00:24:24 <BitHub>	and being able to catgorize posts
Mar 11 00:24:33 <BitHub>	fb timeline is so shit
Mar 11 00:24:40 <MJR_>	yes exactly!
Mar 11 00:24:45 <BitHub>	i want to click on youtube and see all the youtube links i've posted
Mar 11 00:24:48 <MJR_>	and they mine your data
Mar 11 00:25:19 <BitHub>	and intergrate it with bitcoin
Mar 11 00:25:24 <BitHub>	so can have social media payments
Mar 11 00:25:33 <MJR_>	yeah that would be awesome
Mar 11 00:25:54 <MJR_>	I actually think that there can be a role for banks as service providers
Mar 11 00:26:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00544 BTC [-]
Mar 11 00:26:10 <MJR_>	as opposed to lenders/crooks
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Mar 11 00:26:23 <the-bucket-shop>	banks think that too
Mar 11 00:26:48 <MJR_>	well...in bitcoin land it actually makes sense
Mar 11 00:26:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00544 BTC [-]
Mar 11 00:27:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.344 BTC [-]
Mar 11 00:27:32 <MJR_>	I think one problem is that of convenience...and they can handle recurring payments etc.
Mar 11 00:27:33 <BitHub>	i'd like to see like a youtube clone where you can pay for a stream or HQ dl via bitcoin or tipstream
Mar 11 00:27:50 <MJR_>	that would be cool
Mar 11 00:27:51 <the-bucket-shop>	corncobs can handle recurring payments
Mar 11 00:28:02 <MJR_>	what is that?
Mar 11 00:28:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:28:04 <BitHub>	i'm working on something
Mar 11 00:28:22 <the-bucket-shop>	spelling corncobs = cronjobs
Mar 11 00:28:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1999 = 0.3998 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:28:38 <MJR_>	true
Mar 11 00:28:41 <the-bucket-shop>	corncobs are for smoking
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Mar 11 00:28:47 <MJR_>	also true
Mar 11 00:28:55 <[\\\]>	hey mircea_popescu
Mar 11 00:28:55 <BitHub>	well i want to make a movie and as an experiment see if maybe it plays for 5mins or something and then'll it'll stop and ask for like some btc to watch the rest of the stream or you can dl my video with a quick bitcoin payment
Mar 11 00:28:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0057 = 0.0114 BTC [-]
Mar 11 00:29:00 <[\\\]>	tap your bish on the head for me
Mar 11 00:29:01 <[\\\]>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.msg1607217#msg1607217
Mar 11 00:29:01 <MJR_>	I meant for people who know how to check email
Mar 11 00:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] hey slashes
Mar 11 00:29:13 <[\\\]>	I lol'd for that one
Mar 11 00:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 11 00:29:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000726 = 0.0015 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	she's got teeth on her that one does she.
Mar 11 00:30:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 00:30:26 <MJR_>	im really curious if someone will try a fractional reserve banking thing with bitcoins
Mar 11 00:30:56 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox
Mar 11 00:31:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.18997 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:31:26 <MJR_>	oh yeah true...though I thought the coupons were based on their cash
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Mar 11 00:31:45 <MJR_>	also I heard they had to stop that
Mar 11 00:32:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:32:26 <mircea_popescu>	it's not really proven or anything. more like konspiraci theory
Mar 11 00:33:23 <MJR_>	well, I guess it could be done aboveboard...more like CD's than demand deposits
Mar 11 00:34:10 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ nobody will wait for the bitcoin payment to clear to watch their movie.
Mar 11 00:34:40 <MJR_>	well that was BitHub
Mar 11 00:34:59 <MJR_>	but also with micropayments I doubt you will wait
Mar 11 00:35:13 <BitHub>	do you mean because of the confirm?
Mar 11 00:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Mar 11 00:35:39 <BitHub>	bitcoin fail
Mar 11 00:35:44 <MJR_>	also, 6 confirms is arbitrary...really comes down to your levels of trust
Mar 11 00:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	i had txs waited for 6 hours just to be included two days ago
Mar 11 00:36:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	when the chaos was happening.
Mar 11 00:36:13 <BitHub>	try sitting at cafe for 6hours
Mar 11 00:36:22 <BitHub>	run out of shit to talk about after 2
Mar 11 00:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	and i have old coinbases and etc. average joe with smallish inputs... ouch.
Mar 11 00:36:48 <BitHub>	i never want to see that person again
Mar 11 00:36:48 <MJR_>	the Jon Stewart vs Bill O'Reilly was like that, $5 to watch
Mar 11 00:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	were they naked ?
Mar 11 00:37:16 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 11 00:37:17 <BitHub>	lul
Mar 11 00:37:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:37:34 <MJR_>	Im so glad you didn't mean bill O'Reilly
Mar 11 00:37:45 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] btw, you seen inau anywhere ?
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Mar 11 00:39:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.5789 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:40:10 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140472.msg1608597#msg1608597
Mar 11 00:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	cablepair tagged
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Mar 11 00:41:25 <MJR_>	I miss polimedia
Mar 11 00:41:41 <MJR_>	the forum is boring
Mar 11 00:42:42 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ im all backed up here lol, get prepared cause when it goes back online it'll rain articles
Mar 11 00:42:55 <MJR_>	nice
Mar 11 00:45:37 <pizzaman1337>	interesting to see the face behind S.DICE, he also mentions the "bitinstant bitcoin debit card" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbLYmjXsydM
Mar 11 00:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	you never saw evoorhees' ugly mug before ?
Mar 11 00:46:15 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 11 00:46:17 <pizzaman1337>	only the mask
Mar 11 00:46:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:46:28 <MJR_>	his office is 7 blocks from mine
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Mar 11 00:47:22 <MJR_>	I wish I knew the overlap between iPhone jailbreakers and bitcoins
Mar 11 00:47:47 <BitHub>	?
Mar 11 00:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ there was some dude jailbreaking anything in the forum,
Mar 11 00:48:19 <MJR_>	for example, cydia doesn't let you pay with btc
Mar 11 00:48:29 <MJR_>	which to me seems obvious
Mar 11 00:48:47 <pizzaman1337>	MJR_: I asked saurik about that once, let me see if I can find his response
Mar 11 00:48:55 <MJR_>	I've never bought one thing there
Mar 11 00:49:12 <MJR_>	cuz too much hassle and don't want my cc info floating around
Mar 11 00:49:28 <MJR_>	also, freenode
Mar 11 00:49:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.19879 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:49:36 <MJR_>	another obvious one
Mar 11 00:50:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Mar 11 00:50:34 <mircea_popescu>	obvious what ?
Mar 11 00:51:14 <MJR_>	they seem sorry that they can only accept cc and Paypal
Mar 11 00:51:31 <MJR_>	on their donation page
Mar 11 00:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Mar 11 00:51:48 <MJR_>	I was going to get a cloak
Mar 11 00:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	o yeah wtf happened to those
Mar 11 00:52:29 <pizzaman1337>	MJR_: http://pastie.org/pastes/6448246/text?key=s0rdeomgzommfp93xtapw
Mar 11 00:53:16 <MJR_>	pizzaman1337: lol taxes
Mar 11 00:54:07 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 11 00:54:29 <MJR_>	what chan are they usually on?
Mar 11 00:54:35 <pizzaman1337>	if he needed to convert it to fiat to payout devs, it might not be unavoidable
Mar 11 00:54:48 <pizzaman1337>	private chans, different irc server..
Mar 11 00:54:58 <dub>	MJR_: just ask in #freenode
Mar 11 00:55:25 <MJR_>	pizzaman1337: sucks
Mar 11 00:55:33 <pizzaman1337>	yeah
Mar 11 00:55:49 <MJR_>	also, anonymous...also seems like an obvious fit
Mar 11 00:56:01 <MJR_>	and perhaps they are using it
Mar 11 00:56:12 <MJR_>	they are after all anonymous
Mar 11 00:56:36 <MJR_>	but you would think they would be more vocal as they hate banks etc
Mar 11 01:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.583 = 5.83 BTC [-]
Mar 11 01:00:41 <dub>	whats anonymous?
Mar 11 01:01:04 <BitHub>	did mircea pay his taxes this year?
Mar 11 01:01:07 <BitHub>	:P
Mar 11 01:01:10 <MJR_>	the hacktivist group
Mar 11 01:01:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.005425 = 0.0109 BTC [-]
Mar 11 01:01:19 <dub>	there is no hacktavist group
Mar 11 01:01:27 <MJR_>	whatever
Mar 11 01:01:38 <dub>	there is thousands of retarded children with a handfull of hackers hiding behind them
Mar 11 01:01:48 <MJR_>	the people who "hack" and refer to themselves as "Anonymous"
Mar 11 01:01:57 <dub>	thats like 7 people
Mar 11 01:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5810005 BTC [-]
Mar 11 01:02:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5810003 = 5.81 BTC [-]
Mar 11 01:02:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.581 = 5.81 BTC [-]
Mar 11 01:02:09 <dub>	the rest are just hitting f5
Mar 11 01:02:16 <MJR_>	that's fine
Mar 11 01:02:24 <MJR_>	was not referring to their skill
Mar 11 01:02:33 <MJR_>	but rather their inferred ideals
Mar 11 01:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub sure dood.
Mar 11 01:02:41 <dub>	it requires at least as much skill to use bitcoins as breath through ones nose
Mar 11 01:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	dub how do you explain most cocksuckers can't use bitcoin ?
Mar 11 01:03:15 <dub>	which excludes anyone that refers to themself as anon
Mar 11 01:03:17 <MJR_>	dub: wait, not sure if you mean it's easy or hard
Mar 11 01:03:28 <BitHub>	its hard
Mar 11 01:03:34 <dub>	its harder than hitting f5
Mar 11 01:03:37 <BitHub>	even for people who aren't totally noob at internet
Mar 11 01:03:47 <MJR_>	really?
Mar 11 01:03:51 <BitHub>	just takes some time
Mar 11 01:03:55 <MJR_>	ok. I agree
Mar 11 01:04:05 <MJR_>	but I think it's relatively easy
Mar 11 01:04:18 <MJR_>	the hardest part is getting btc
Mar 11 01:04:24 <BitHub>	that is getting harder
Mar 11 01:04:53 <MJR_>	and that is only hard because of lame banks and difficulty of moving money
Mar 11 01:05:02 <BitHub>	sorry i mean it is hard at first
Mar 11 01:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.580001 = 1.74 BTC [-]
Mar 11 01:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.571 = 1.713 BTC [-]
Mar 11 01:05:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.570001 = 1.71 BTC [-]
Mar 11 01:05:06 <BitHub>	really hard
Mar 11 01:05:07 <MJR_>	once you have some it is simple
Mar 11 01:05:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 0.7 = 16.1 BTC [+]
Mar 11 01:06:00 <MJR_>	tell me the tipbot on Reddit is hard
Mar 11 01:06:12 <BitHub>	reddit is hard
Mar 11 01:06:29 <BitHub>	i only go to the bitcoin subredit
Mar 11 01:06:30 <MJR_>	hahaha, maybe hard to set up if you want to donate
Mar 11 01:06:44 <MJR_>	but I think for people receiving it, it's easy
Mar 11 01:06:46 <BitHub>	life's hard
Mar 11 01:06:50 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 11 01:06:50 <BitHub>	!
Mar 11 01:06:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.719999 = 7.2 BTC [+]
Mar 11 01:07:04 <MJR_>	it creates a wallet for you
Mar 11 01:07:19 <jurov>	hi all, http://mpex.coinbr.com/mpex-mktdepth.php fixed to be plain json
Mar 11 01:07:26 <BitHub>	i'm just over learning new shit all the time
Mar 11 01:07:38 <MJR_>	hi jurov
Mar 11 01:07:53 <jurov>	there's special config for it  cause by default things are cached 15 mins
Mar 11 01:08:01 <jurov>	and i left jsonp part there
Mar 11 01:08:12 <mircea_popescu>	mystery unravelled
Mar 11 01:09:18 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: give $proxies a go
Mar 11 01:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies
Mar 11 01:09:25 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ["http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 11 01:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	coolness.
Mar 11 01:09:33 <jurov>	oh no
Mar 11 01:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ; this is intended to function as a permanent and maintained proxy list
Mar 11 01:09:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.72 = 1.44 BTC [+]
Mar 11 01:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	so that everyone can write code referencing here and always be online.
Mar 11 01:10:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Mar 11 01:10:03 <BitHub>	how come no mpex room?
Mar 11 01:10:03 <dub>	really its a ddos c&c
Mar 11 01:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	even with distributed clients, or w/e
Mar 11 01:10:06 <dub>	:)
Mar 11 01:10:10 <jurov>	seems like everyone else is too afraid to get listed?
Mar 11 01:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	dub ayup
Mar 11 01:10:20 <dub>	dupe it to $target
Mar 11 01:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you get the standing ovation of being the only one there for a bit :D
Mar 11 01:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, anyone writing code for mpex interfacing, bear the list in mind.
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Mar 11 01:11:23 <smickles>	mircea_popescu and myself can add to the list with $proxies <pastebin paste key to a signed json array of proxies>
Mar 11 01:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	the end scenario here is that the internet ends but mpex survives by now.
Mar 11 01:12:26 <smickles>	and now...
Mar 11 01:12:27 <smickles>	beer
Mar 11 01:12:30 <the-bucket-shop>	bbs?
Mar 11 01:12:58 <smickles>	let me pull out my 8000 baud modem
Mar 11 01:13:16 <smickles>	the-bucket-shop: no, next step, global meshnet
Mar 11 01:13:42 <MJR_>	smickles: that would be awesome
Mar 11 01:13:48 <dub>	someone was talking about a bitcoin over ham radio protocol a while bac
Mar 11 01:13:49 <smickles>	with nodes receiving their due in bitcoin for opperating
Mar 11 01:14:06 <smickles>	automagically
Mar 11 01:14:09 <MJR_>	ham would be cool
Mar 11 01:14:12 <dub>	but a network of phone numbers with modems would be really easy
Mar 11 01:14:23 <MJR_>	but I think at least in urban areas
Mar 11 01:14:30 <MJR_>	wifi will work best
Mar 11 01:14:51 <jurov>	don't forget to throw some fax numbers in the mix
Mar 11 01:14:56 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 11 01:14:59 <smickles>	multi-frequency mesnet. hams could jump the long distances, wifi for cities
Mar 11 01:15:06 <MJR_>	yeah
Mar 11 01:15:16 <MJR_>	now with 5ghz wifi
Mar 11 01:15:17 <smickles>	ham > 250 or w/o line of site < 250
Mar 11 01:15:19 <the-bucket-shop>	i was sitting on sidelines for mpoe shares until I watched you guys knock this thing up.  I'm a shareholder now because of it…
Mar 11 01:15:24 <smickles>	250 miles that is
Mar 11 01:15:26 <MJR_>	bandwidth is no problem
Mar 11 01:16:00 <dub>	dialup nodes should already be there tbh
Mar 11 01:16:04 <MJR_>	the-bucket-shop: welcome :)
Mar 11 01:16:11 <dub>	costs nothing but a phone number
Mar 11 01:16:27 <dub>	much more resilient than internet and most radio
Mar 11 01:17:02 <MJR_>	well...relies on existing infrastructure under others control
Mar 11 01:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	actually the plan was to have tcp/ip reimpremented over pigeons
Mar 11 01:17:24 <MJR_>	lolz
Mar 11 01:17:25 <dub>	no different to anything else
Mar 11 01:17:40 <dub>	and pstn still stays up well after teh lights go out (mostly)
Mar 11 01:17:46 <smickles>	see, that's why meshnet is awesome, you contribute what you have, even if it is just a pigeon
Mar 11 01:17:49 <MJR_>	well a community could implement a wireless mesh network under their control
Mar 11 01:18:08 <smickles>	it all falls down to power tho
Mar 11 01:18:14 <dub>	MJR_: thats other peoples infrastructure too
Mar 11 01:18:16 <smickles>	they can shut off the grid
Mar 11 01:18:29 <smickles>	they can stop shipments of gas
Mar 11 01:18:31 <MJR_>	I meant AT&T not your neighbor
Mar 11 01:18:37 <jurov>	let us bouce teh orderz from ionosphere
Mar 11 01:18:40 <MJR_>	and get sun/wind
Mar 11 01:18:42 <jurov>	*bounce
Mar 11 01:18:49 <dub>	only ham works in that case
Mar 11 01:19:05 <smickles>	solar and wind power would be easily spotted,dissappeared
Mar 11 01:19:11 <MJR_>	bitcoin in a walking dead type world
Mar 11 01:19:17 <smickles>	we're just fucked. lets stop now
Mar 11 01:19:24 <smickles>	;D
Mar 11 01:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/xiaolai/status/302410515953623040
Mar 11 01:19:50 <mircea_popescu>	dafuck
Mar 11 01:20:07 <dub>	walking dead world only takes a few years to resolve though
Mar 11 01:20:22 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: what's the scribbles mean on that?
Mar 11 01:20:28 <dub>	theres what 400k people in america?
Mar 11 01:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	no idea
Mar 11 01:20:44 <MJR_>	guy Fawkes mask
Mar 11 01:20:49 <BitHub>	is that who did the ddos?
Mar 11 01:20:53 <dub>	probably at least that many bullets in your avg small town
Mar 11 01:21:11 <MJR_>	dub: 400k in America?
Mar 11 01:21:16 <pizzaman1337>	google translate says "It turned out that the Chinese people do ah! Mailboxes are"
Mar 11 01:21:17 <dub>	idk
Mar 11 01:21:26 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 11 01:21:29 <dub>	is it less?
Mar 11 01:21:30 <smickles>	most people with guy fawkes masks want to overthrow the gov't and replace it w/ a theocracy. just like guy fawkes, right?
Mar 11 01:21:42 <dub>	400M rather
Mar 11 01:21:46 <MJR_>	smickles: not that I know of
Mar 11 01:22:01 <MJR_>	dub: there u go lol, I was confused
Mar 11 01:22:03 <dub>	still, not that many zombies to clean up
Mar 11 01:22:04 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub i don't think so.
Mar 11 01:22:13 <smickles>	MJR_: so why do they wear guy fawkes masks?
Mar 11 01:22:43 <dub>	smickles: because they want to hit f5
Mar 11 01:23:07 <smickles>	they should turn it up to f11
Mar 11 01:23:15 <BitHub>	betsotbitcoin who ddos mpex?
Mar 11 01:23:18 <BitHub>	of
Mar 11 01:23:23 <dub>	that scientology raid has a lot to answer for
Mar 11 01:23:40 <dub>	there is no mask wearing legion
Mar 11 01:23:44 <MJR_>	anti-cyber-surveillance;
Mar 11 01:23:52 <mircea_popescu>	gabridome hey, link to your github again ?
Mar 11 01:23:55 <MJR_>	well
Mar 11 01:24:28 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: https://github.com/gabridome/mpex-sh
Mar 11 01:24:33 <smickles>	go figure
Mar 11 01:24:35 <MJR_>	they apparently want to fight against banks, religions that are mean, and govt spying
Mar 11 01:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Mar 11 01:25:01 <dub>	occupy wasn't anon
Mar 11 01:25:07 <MJR_>	yes
Mar 11 01:25:09 <MJR_>	t
Mar 11 01:25:14 <MJR_>	you are right
Mar 11 01:25:22 <MJR_>	but there was some overlap
Mar 11 01:25:46 <MJR_>	anti-cyber-surveillance;
Mar 11 01:26:04 <pizzaman1337>	I'm assuming the options with ids ending in "T" are "this month" and "N" are "next month"?
Mar 11 01:26:11 <smickles>	yup
Mar 11 01:26:20 <smickles>	last friday of the month
Mar 11 01:26:35 <jurov>	pizzaman1337, yes
Mar 11 01:27:23 <pizzaman1337>	it might be a good idea to put that in the FAQ, didn't see it there
Mar 11 01:27:26 <dub>	fighting against govt spying is just trolling
Mar 11 01:27:34 <smickles>	i loved it when some guy said that the options' ids were needlessly complicated and incomprehensible... i pointed out an option on google. i won.
Mar 11 01:27:39 <dub>	govt has been looking at everything for a long time
Mar 11 01:28:01 <dub>	that cow is out the gate
Mar 11 01:28:34 <smickles>	dub: cow tipping is a prized sport where i come from
Mar 11 01:29:28 <dub>	THATs why the right to bear arms is so important
Mar 11 01:29:41 <smickles>	shoot the cow tippers
Mar 11 01:29:49 <smickles>	?
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Mar 11 01:29:58 <dub>	you need arms to tip a cow
Mar 11 01:30:04 <smickles>	lol
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Mar 11 01:30:42 <[\\\]>	not true
Mar 11 01:30:43 <dub>	its all clear now
Mar 11 01:30:44 <[\\\]>	feet.
Mar 11 01:31:12 <dub>	how are you going to open the gate?
Mar 11 01:31:33 <MJR_>	lol, I don't understand the logic in maintaining a "right" from the people you need that right to protect yourself from
Mar 11 01:31:48 <[\\\]>	feet.
Mar 11 01:31:59 <[\\\]>	Cow gates aren't complicated.
Mar 11 01:32:08 <MJR_>	govt. give me the right to have a gun, so that I can stop you from taking my gun?
Mar 11 01:32:09 <[\\\]>	Its not like they've got combo dials
Mar 11 01:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	smickles lol
Mar 11 01:32:16 <dub>	MJR_: neither, its like but you elected them?
Mar 11 01:32:42 <smickles>	MJR_: well, it started out from the perspective that gov't should be subserviant (sp?) to individuals
Mar 11 01:32:45 <MJR_>	to me, it is seeming like gives are increasingly less relevant
Mar 11 01:33:00 <mircea_popescu>	subservient
Mar 11 01:33:02 <MJR_>	govts*
Mar 11 01:33:03 <smickles>	the right doesn't come from the gov't
Mar 11 01:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [-]
Mar 11 01:33:13 <smickles>	it is put upon the gov't
Mar 11 01:33:14 <MJR_>	I agree
Mar 11 01:33:24 <smickles>	thx mircea_popescu :)
Mar 11 01:33:39 <MJR_>	point being, what they choose to do doesn't matter
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Mar 11 01:34:10 <MJR_>	only brought up govt bc most people in murica refer to the 2nd amendment
Mar 11 01:34:27 <dub>	[\\\]: you've got to lift the little springy bit holding the chain latching teh gate shut
Mar 11 01:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	you can do that with your tit
Mar 11 01:35:16 <smickles>	MJR_: thing is, the 2nd amendment doesn't prevent them from taking the guns, it just prevents them from making a law to prohibit gun ownership
Mar 11 01:35:51 <MJR_>	if you trust them to follow rules...
Mar 11 01:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	A dollar spent mining bitcoins in 2010 now worth $53K.
Mar 11 01:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	hehe.
Mar 11 01:36:31 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 11 01:36:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.72010, Best ask: 46.98800, Bid-ask spread: 0.26790, Last trade: 46.98898, 24 hour volume: 30169.98410034, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 47.70000, 24 hour vwap: 46.51254
Mar 11 01:36:32 <the-bucket-shop>	2nd amendment protects encryption too - as well as probably bitcoin
Mar 11 01:36:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.72 = 2.16 BTC [+]
Mar 11 01:36:53 <smickles>	;;view
Mar 11 01:36:54 <gribble>	#13941 Sun Mar 10 09:58:52 2013 smickles SELL 20.0 btc @ 49.82 usd (None)
Mar 11 01:36:55 <MJR_>	they stopped classifying encryption as a munition
Mar 11 01:37:06 <smickles>	yeah, pgp busted that
Mar 11 01:37:22 <MJR_>	I posted a link to that xkcd
Mar 11 01:37:35 <smickles>	i've got a copy of the original pgp source code somewhere
Mar 11 01:37:44 <smickles>	printed when that whole debacle was going on
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Mar 11 01:38:34 <smickles>	people are great, gov't is liek: it's illegal to distribute that code!! peeps are like: let's print it in a book and send it everywhere!!!!
Mar 11 01:38:55 <mircea_popescu>	lo lyup
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Mar 11 01:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla so intrade is shut down. where's all the experts advising bitbet should be more like intrade ?
Mar 11 01:39:16 <smickles>	a good copy of that book is worth upwards of 100 usd now iirc
Mar 11 01:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's what i want to know. for all the posturing and pretense when they're wrong but don't know it yet,
Mar 11 01:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	where's the humility and apologetics when it's proven they were in fact wrong ?
Mar 11 01:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	*crickets*
Mar 11 01:39:50 <[\\\]>	I'm sorry.
Mar 11 01:39:54 <[\\\]>	There, I said it.
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Mar 11 01:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol were you the guy with the emails ?
Mar 11 01:40:06 <MJR_>	:)
Mar 11 01:40:25 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: not likely, imsa is quite a good troll
Mar 11 01:40:26 <[\\\]>	I made no comments about intrade or bitbet
Mar 11 01:40:35 <smickles>	;)
Mar 11 01:40:41 <[\\\]>	but I can be humble and apologetic.
Mar 11 01:40:41 <mircea_popescu>	there was this one guy, jesus, i even blogged about him
Mar 11 01:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] wd!
Mar 11 01:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] for this weeks' bitcoin jesus
Mar 11 01:41:00 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: you're blogging about jesus?
Mar 11 01:41:07 <[\\\]>	is that bible 2.0?
Mar 11 01:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Mar 11 01:41:17 <smickles>	wait, bitcoin jesus was an actual topic?
Mar 11 01:41:18 <mircea_popescu>	nono, this guy explaining to me the virtues of intradelineness
Mar 11 01:41:23 <smickles>	not just a joke the other day?
Mar 11 01:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	jesus is just an expletive
Mar 11 01:41:26 <mircea_popescu>	like fuck
Mar 11 01:41:33 <[\\\]>	but that isn't clear from your text
Mar 11 01:41:37 <[\\\]>	your girl would rip you on it.
Mar 11 01:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 11 01:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	i pay her to point outwards
Mar 11 01:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	not inwards.
Mar 11 01:42:06 <smickles>	so, it's "bitcoin JESUS!"
Mar 11 01:42:11 <MJR_>	not to confuse but I think bitcoin Jesus was def a topic
Mar 11 01:42:15 <[\\\]>	is that why she wears a strapon?
Mar 11 01:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] it's a spikeon
Mar 11 01:42:30 <[\\\]>	you're a kinky fellow
Mar 11 01:42:31 *	smickles claps for [\\\] 
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Mar 11 01:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	better kinky than cooky i always say.
Mar 11 01:43:00 <[\\\]>	smickles, its well after bedtime.  I claim no credit for my antics.
Mar 11 01:43:02 <MJR_>	👍
Mar 11 01:43:03 <bitfoo>	+1 for informative titles
Mar 11 01:43:14 <mircea_popescu>	also max keiser is going bitcoincrazy
Mar 11 01:43:21 <[\\\]>	who is max keiser?
Mar 11 01:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	this nutjob guy
Mar 11 01:43:33 <smickles>	[\\\]: beer 4 here, any neat stuff i say is lucky
Mar 11 01:43:34 <[\\\]>	did anyone see the tweet from the old, self proclaimed bitcoin jesus?
Mar 11 01:43:40 <MJR_>	that's when bitcoin Jesus came up
Mar 11 01:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	Timothy Maxwell "Max" Keiser is an American broadcaster and film-maker. He hosts Keiser Report, a financial program broadcast on RT.
Mar 11 01:43:50 <smickles>	s/neat/witty/
Mar 11 01:44:00 <MJR_>	I like that chick from RT
Mar 11 01:44:05 <smickles>	his name would be timothy
Mar 11 01:44:07 <[\\\]>	smickles, I knew what you meant.  You're well paste neat, trending towards sloppy.
Mar 11 01:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	that;'s him MJR_
Mar 11 01:44:16 <[\\\]>	past*
Mar 11 01:44:36 <MJR_>	He is crazy
Mar 11 01:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] he';s not sloppy, shampoo is just very expensive where he lives.
Mar 11 01:44:48 <[\\\]>	Whatever happened to all of the different bitcoin vblogs?
Mar 11 01:44:50 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 11 01:45:02 <[\\\]>	There used to be all of these different 'shows'
Mar 11 01:45:06 <MJR_>	avoid the keiser report
Mar 11 01:45:08 <[\\\]>	back when coins were like 'free'
Mar 11 01:45:10 <smickles>	lol, mircea_popescu my wife just told me to wash my hair too
Mar 11 01:45:20 <mircea_popescu>	we clearly have a konspiraci
Mar 11 01:45:25 <[\\\]>	smickles, I'm pretty certain she was talking about your ass.
Mar 11 01:45:52 <Rick__>	f1b69921 expired?
Mar 11 01:45:57 <MJR_>	I think there is a conspiracy going on to change the spelling to konspiraci
Mar 11 01:46:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 14 @ 0.000726 = 0.0102 BTC [+]
Mar 11 01:46:03 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ yes rick, need to switch over to new key.
Mar 11 01:46:08 <smickles>	/¯(°_o)/¯
Mar 11 01:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	did you see the announcement last month ?
Mar 11 01:46:13 <Rick__>	where is the new key?
Mar 11 01:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	k 1 sec
Mar 11 01:46:20 <[\\\]>	smickles, what is that?
Mar 11 01:46:38 <jurov>	[\\\] drunk reddit alien
Mar 11 01:46:44 <smickles>	[\\\]: it's the i dunno lol dog with one arm backwards
Mar 11 01:46:45 <[\\\]>	oh
Mar 11 01:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/9M25zBr7
Mar 11 01:46:52 <smickles>	looks like a zombie to me
Mar 11 01:46:58 <[\\\]>	it was blending with Rick__
Mar 11 01:47:00 <[\\\]>	confusing the look
Mar 11 01:47:12 <Rick__>	I cant open this website
Mar 11 01:47:16 <Rick__>	dont know why
Mar 11 01:47:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
Mar 11 01:47:26 <[\\\]>	jesus
Mar 11 01:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	oh
Mar 11 01:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	mk 1 sec
Mar 11 01:47:32 <Rick__>	did you put the new key in the faq?
Mar 11 01:47:35 <smickles>	woah, can't open pastebin?
Mar 11 01:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	he;s in china
Mar 11 01:47:44 <Rick__>	yeah
Mar 11 01:47:51 <Rick__>	it's chinese issue
Mar 11 01:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ http://dpaste.com/1018975/
Mar 11 01:48:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Mar 11 01:48:16 <smickles>	that's like not being able to go to Rick__.isgay.com back in the 90's
Mar 11 01:48:17 <jurov>	Rick__ and mpex.coinbr.com works or it was harmonized, too?
Mar 11 01:48:30 <mircea_popescu>	harmonized lol
Mar 11 01:48:31 <mircea_popescu>	roflmao
Mar 11 01:48:41 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 11 01:48:43 <Rick__>	yes it works now
Mar 11 01:48:46 <mircea_popescu>	a cool.
Mar 11 01:48:48 <jurov>	yea, that's official term
Mar 11 01:49:00 <mircea_popescu>	more like hummerized
Mar 11 01:49:03 <[\\\]>	aww
Mar 11 01:49:05 <Rick__>	thank you all
Mar 11 01:49:09 <[\\\]>	they got ride of the wildcard cna
Mar 11 01:49:10 <[\\\]>	cname
Mar 11 01:49:13 <mircea_popescu>	poor rick tho. he's had a full weekend
Mar 11 01:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	what with all the emerging surprises
Mar 11 01:49:19 <[\\\]>	it was always fun to point people to meatspin
Mar 11 01:49:27 <[\\\]>	http://smickles.loves.meatspin.com
Mar 11 01:49:28 <smickles>	was?
Mar 11 01:49:42 <[\\\]>	but the wildcard is gone, so it doesn't work now
Mar 11 01:49:47 <[\\\]>	only http://meatspin.com
Mar 11 01:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't resolve smickles
Mar 11 01:50:12 <MJR_>	error 503...
Mar 11 01:50:13 <smickles>	it's hard enough to find goatse, even, anymore
Mar 11 01:50:18 <MJR_>	for me
Mar 11 01:50:37 <MJR_>	I was talking about mpex.coinbr
Mar 11 01:50:40 <[\\\]>	http://www.goatse.bz/
Mar 11 01:50:50 <MJR_>	!proxies
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Mar 11 01:50:51 <smickles>	what's leve is http://youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0
Mar 11 01:50:54 <smickles>	and such
Mar 11 01:50:58 <smickles>	MJR_: $
Mar 11 01:50:58 <[\\\]>	http://www.prolapseman.com/
Mar 11 01:51:05 <MJR_>	$proxies
Mar 11 01:51:07 <mpexbot>	MJR_: ["http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 11 01:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	hum it's fine here MJR_
Mar 11 01:51:12 <[\\\]>	http://www.walkthedinosaur.com/
Mar 11 01:51:23 <smickles>	badgerbadgerbadger.com
Mar 11 01:51:45 *	MJR_ works
Mar 11 01:51:49 <Rick__>	did you put the new key in the faq?
Mar 11 01:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ not yet.
Mar 11 01:52:02 <smickles>	i don't think so
Mar 11 01:52:07 <Rick__>	okay
Mar 11 01:52:08 <smickles>	;;ident mircea_popescu
Mar 11 01:52:08 <gribble>	Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user mircea_popescu, with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
Mar 11 01:52:13 <smickles>	but he's legit
Mar 11 01:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	Rick__ i'll be doing the updates of that nature once we get stuff back online and runnign smoothly
Mar 11 01:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	it was announced early feb and since then but
Mar 11 01:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	obviously some people missed it
Mar 11 01:52:48 <Rick__>	okay
Mar 11 01:55:07 <MJR_>	Ltc hit .40 should have waited a few hours to dump lol
Mar 11 01:57:21 <error4733>	srlsy ?
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Mar 11 01:57:49 <jurov>	MJR_: don't worry over it, prolly will crash soon
Mar 11 01:57:56 <MJR_>	oh I know
Mar 11 01:58:03 <error4733>	please yes
Mar 11 01:58:15 <error4733>	need to load hehe
Mar 11 01:58:17 <MJR_>	I only am mining it because I have 28 cores doing nothing
Mar 11 01:58:33 <error4733>	make sens
Mar 11 01:58:37 <error4733>	...
Mar 11 01:58:37 <MJR_>	and I can't get cash to btc-e otherwise
Mar 11 01:58:41 <jurov>	i guess it will crash while i'll be waiting for litecoind to sync. i have such luck
Mar 11 01:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	the june 2010 peak looks so pathetic from up here
Mar 11 01:59:07 <MJR_>	that's where my deposit came from today jurov :)
Mar 11 01:59:42 *	jurov gets an idea about litecoin mining and amazon.. gets postponed to end of everything
Mar 11 01:59:59 <MJR_>	by the way, im not sure what you guys use, but im loving gnucash
Mar 11 02:01:14 <MJR_>	and if it's at all possible to generate ofx files it would be awesome!
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Mar 11 02:07:26 <smickles>	so if you anticipated the rise, amazon cloud mining would've been very profitable
Mar 11 02:08:49 <smickles>	may 15 2011, was when that howto was posted
Mar 11 02:09:32 <BitHub>	can i pay miner fees in ltc instead?
Mar 11 02:10:04 <smickles>	miner fees? like bitcoin tx fees?
Mar 11 02:11:32 <smickles>	jesus fuck, bitcoin was under 6 usd on may 11 2011. leveraging amazon cloud would made bank
Mar 11 02:11:50 <smickles>	then you still had that whole fall to 2
Mar 11 02:14:56 <smickles>	;;calc .38 / 9 * 45
Mar 11 02:14:57 <gribble>	1.9
Mar 11 02:15:24 <smickles>	oh, maybe not :/
Mar 11 02:15:55 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=8405.msg126121#msg126121
Mar 11 02:16:07 <smickles>	"Congratulations! You've just discovered a ceiling above which price of bitcoin will never rise (at current difficulty).  20/0.38 = 52.63 USD/BTC."
Mar 11 02:22:24 <MJR_>	wtf? tesla only gets 80mh/s
Mar 11 02:22:57 <smickles>	MJR_: that was some time ago
Mar 11 02:23:03 <smickles>	improvements have been made
Mar 11 02:23:15 <MJR_>	I can imagine
Mar 11 02:23:43 <MJR_>	my fpga project is coming along
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Mar 11 02:26:10 <MJR_>	hmm. think getting a ticker price on Bloomberg is possible
Mar 11 02:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.74 BTC [+]
Mar 11 02:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 02:36:39 <random_cat>	mpex dead?
Mar 11 02:36:48 <smickles>	nope
Mar 11 02:36:54 <smickles>	$proxies
Mar 11 02:36:56 <mpexbot>	smickles: ["http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 11 02:37:02 <smickles>	$list SupyMPEx
Mar 11 02:37:02 <mpexbot>	smickles: depth, post, proxies, and vwap
Mar 11 02:37:13 <smickles>	$help post
Mar 11 02:37:13 <mpexbot>	smickles: (post <paste key>) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.
Mar 11 02:37:16 <random_cat>	nm.. had wrong url
Mar 11 02:37:28 <mircea_popescu>	hi random_cat
Mar 11 02:37:56 <random_cat>	howdy mircea_popescu
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Mar 11 02:38:50 <Franktank>	Anyone selling ASICMiner shares at 0.6/share?
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Mar 11 02:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 11 02:39:46 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.70633 / 0.79899 (146 shares, 103.1 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.68884 / 1 (1322 shares, 910.6 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68884 / 1 (1322 shares, 910.6 BTC)
Mar 11 02:39:53 <mircea_popescu>	not yet that ow is it.
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Mar 11 02:40:22 <Franktank>	What?
Mar 11 02:40:31 <smickles>	kakobrekla: what do you think about putting !help and $list SupyMPEx in the topic?
Mar 11 02:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	asicminer. not yet quite at .6
Mar 11 02:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	smickles pms
Mar 11 02:41:09 <Franktank>	I don't know what you mean mircea
Mar 11 02:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	asicminer-pt is the btct.co listed passthrough for asicminer.
Mar 11 02:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	it has traded between .65 and about 1.
Mar 11 02:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	it dropped recently, but not as low as .6
Mar 11 02:42:39 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: what was the bond interest rate last month?
Mar 11 02:42:40 <Franktank>	Why has it dropped? It's current the best stock right now, isn't it?
Mar 11 02:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	not in any estimation i'm familiar with. what do you mean "best" ?
Mar 11 02:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ 5%ish iirc.
Mar 11 02:43:14 <mircea_popescu>	want me to look ?
Mar 11 02:43:25 <Franktank>	MJR?
Mar 11 02:43:41 <MJR_>	no worries
Mar 11 02:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/310915333592588289 lol this guy.
Mar 11 02:44:00 <MJR_>	just want to diversify this month, we'll see
Mar 11 02:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	he's been on some interview, and every 5 minutes, "hey, did i mention i'm a bitcoin millionaire ?"
Mar 11 02:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [+]
Mar 11 02:45:08 <Franktank>	Well what is considered better than ASICMiner in your opinion?
Mar 11 02:45:25 <mircea_popescu>	by what criteria betteR ?
Mar 11 02:45:27 <MJR_>	is this to be our rockefellers and Astors?
Mar 11 02:45:53 <MJR_>	Franktank: it really only depends on what you have to pay
Mar 11 02:46:02 <Franktank>	Dividend payout, increased resale value, etc
Mar 11 02:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	by historical resale value s.mpoe, indubitably. it opened like 2.9k satoshi, now trading 75s
Mar 11 02:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	by dividend payout s.dice, it paid out something like 68k btc so far
Mar 11 02:47:37 <mircea_popescu>	course s.bbet also saw some crazy appreciation but most of it happened on ipo day
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Mar 11 02:50:39 <mircea_popescu>	mindblown.
Mar 11 02:51:25 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 11 02:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/311005716737581057
Mar 11 02:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	incredible what fits in 140 chars.
Mar 11 02:53:41 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: do you recall what was in that bag?
Mar 11 02:53:50 <smickles>	(twitter background pic)
Mar 11 02:54:05 <mircea_popescu>	girl clothes, some chocolate. water.
Mar 11 02:54:31 <smickles>	I had it down for a bag full of chocolate
Mar 11 02:54:37 <smickles>	i was close, i suppose
Mar 11 02:54:51 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 11 02:55:12 <ZedsterX>	it's a fuckin purse
Mar 11 02:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's not a purse.
Mar 11 02:55:22 <mircea_popescu>	it's european.
Mar 11 02:55:34 <ZedsterX>	purse
Mar 11 02:55:57 <smickles>	not that there's anything wrong with that
Mar 11 02:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 11 02:56:16 <ZedsterX>	depends on your outlook i guess
Mar 11 02:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX you missed some references there m'lad.
Mar 11 02:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	smickles https://si0.twimg.com/profile_background_images/9854979/tweetar.jpg
Mar 11 02:57:14 <ZedsterX>	i could be you father btw
Mar 11 02:57:20 <ZedsterX>	lad
Mar 11 02:57:40 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: http://youtu.be/-d_VAWyCFE8
Mar 11 02:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX pix or it never happened.
Mar 11 02:58:26 <ZedsterX>	so if i have no pix of me being 48 i am not 48?
Mar 11 02:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	no, if you have no pix with my (preferably naked) mom
Mar 11 02:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	you couldn't have been my dad.
Mar 11 02:59:26 <ZedsterX>	hehe
Mar 11 02:59:30 <smickles>	if you really want something done, you have to admit it's a purse
Mar 11 02:59:40 <smickles>	micera gets things done
Mar 11 02:59:58 <smickles>	er, mircea
Mar 11 03:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol ima call you scrabbles.
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Mar 11 03:00:50 <smickles>	i should've typed 'a crime'
Mar 11 03:01:00 <jurov>	lol, tim ferriss calls such a "man bag". quite a fag there.
Mar 11 03:01:43 <smickles>	tim ferris? that well off dude who writes books?
Mar 11 03:02:04 *	fishfish|AFK is now known as fishfish
Mar 11 03:02:14 <jurov>	yes. in 5 hour body he admitted to carrying a protable weights in his man bag
Mar 11 03:02:23 <jurov>	to weight his poop
Mar 11 03:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	i don't what
Mar 11 03:02:29 <jurov>	i'm not making this up
Mar 11 03:02:33 <smickles>	maybe you're just 'mi acre'
Mar 11 03:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	who weighs their shit !?
Mar 11 03:02:52 <mircea_popescu>	does he taste it ?
Mar 11 03:03:09 <smickles>	best way to grasp the texture
Mar 11 03:03:25 <ZedsterX>	nice
Mar 11 03:03:58 <jurov>	okay let's get back to choco bonbons
Mar 11 03:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx902wVrSI1qfsmaho1_1280.jpg
Mar 11 03:04:06 <mircea_popescu>	somewhat related.
Mar 11 03:04:06 <smickles>	come to think of it, oral retention, anal retention. BY YOUR POWERS COMBINE!
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Mar 11 03:04:48 <ZedsterX>	wonder twin powers!
Mar 11 03:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 11 03:05:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.55100, Best ask: 47.94000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38900, Last trade: 47.55000, 24 hour volume: 35518.49297168, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.68101
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Mar 11 03:07:13 <smickles>	that's a pretty sharp rise
Mar 11 03:07:25 <mod6>	one more try here ;)
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Mar 11 03:08:07 <mod6>	or not...?
Mar 11 03:08:09 <smickles>	~46 to ~48 in a tick's life
Mar 11 03:08:43 <smickles>	wow, lotta off-gox trading
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Mar 11 03:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it'd surprise me if they actually had 1/3 of exchange mkt atm.
Mar 11 03:10:46 <smickles>	iknow iknow, but this is what's easily reported
Mar 11 03:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	kinda going the way of tradehill unfortunately.
Mar 11 03:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	i think i'm going to end up feeding my options with a usd fixing price
Mar 11 03:12:04 <smickles>	orly?
Mar 11 03:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	i see no other way.
Mar 11 03:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	hold daily meetings, have a fixing, end of story.
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Mar 11 03:13:47 <smickles>	daily meeting sorta-kinda seem like they might be your thing
Mar 11 03:13:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol how do you mean ?
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Mar 11 03:15:48 <jurov>	lmao totally should have foreseen that... btcusd being officially quoted by mpex
Mar 11 03:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it wouldn't be, no.
Mar 11 03:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	do you know how fixing works?
Mar 11 03:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 244641 @ 0.00075 = 183.4808 BTC [+]
Mar 11 03:16:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5359 @ 0.00076718 = 4.1113 BTC [+]
Mar 11 03:17:03 <mod6>	well, it works better kinda, takes direct messages... but it blew up on the second message.
Mar 11 03:17:06 <mod6>	http://dpaste.com/1019032/
Mar 11 03:17:20 <mod6>	lemme see...
Mar 11 03:17:26 <smickles>	like you maybe-might be in the position to have the time for them and beyond that your bouyant bayance by speech is not much matched here ;)
Mar 11 03:17:46 <mircea_popescu>	hahaah saywut!
Mar 11 03:17:47 <jurov>	mircea_popescu perhaps not fully in this situation
Mar 11 03:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	ok, it's like this. suppose the three main dealers are A, B  and C.
Mar 11 03:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	chair X calls the meeting. X proposes price, say 47.5
Mar 11 03:18:28 <mircea_popescu>	a, b and c go through their books, see what customers want, see what they want on their own account
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Mar 11 03:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	then they say. a buys 50k usd. b sells 25k usd. c sells 70k usd.
Mar 11 03:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	25 + 70 > 50k so its not fixed
Mar 11 03:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	x has to call a lower price now
Mar 11 03:19:00 <jurov>	ah that kind of meeting you mean
Mar 11 03:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	say 47.3
Mar 11 03:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	now a b and c review their books
Mar 11 03:19:14 <mod6>	think i just need to add some sleep time....
Mar 11 03:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	42 12 40
Mar 11 03:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	etc
Mar 11 03:19:27 <mircea_popescu>	this process is called fixing, it's widely used to obtain a price.
Mar 11 03:19:34 <smickles>	you get that going and you'll have all the fun
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Mar 11 03:19:55 <mircea_popescu>	well, fun goes to the mean in general.
Mar 11 03:20:35 <smickles>	i think fun occurs most in the regression. the mean is just incidental
Mar 11 03:20:44 <mircea_popescu>	tat's a point.
Mar 11 03:21:10 <jurov>	heh i first understood "mean" as in the other meaning
Mar 11 03:21:27 <mircea_popescu>	tht's what i originally meant :D
Mar 11 03:21:46 <smickles>	yeah, english is fucked that way
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Mar 11 03:21:57 <mod6>	darn
Mar 11 03:21:59 <jurov>	english is mean
Mar 11 03:22:12 <smickles>	oh, lol
Mar 11 03:22:59 <smickles>	wtf? past historic first singular: bayai
Mar 11 03:23:02 <smickles>	????
Mar 11 03:23:25 <smickles>	baierai
Mar 11 03:23:34 <smickles>	how the fuck is that a word!!?!?!
Mar 11 03:23:52 <mircea_popescu>	to dance.
Mar 11 03:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	french
Mar 11 03:24:14 <smickles>	wuh?
Mar 11 03:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	o no wait
Mar 11 03:24:23 <mircea_popescu>	this is wtf, yawning ?
Mar 11 03:24:28 <smickles>	supposedly, this is english
Mar 11 03:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	maybe via french in the middle ages
Mar 11 03:25:04 <smickles>	baieraient
Mar 11 03:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	eh cmon this is french
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Mar 11 03:25:51 <smickles>	oh, i'm on the wrong wikipedia
Mar 11 03:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha lmao
Mar 11 03:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB :
Mar 11 03:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies
Mar 11 03:26:07 <smickles>	there's a lot of french here which i didn't notice
Mar 11 03:26:07 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ["http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
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Mar 11 03:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	and ima be off. later all!
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Mar 11 03:27:06 <mod6>	later!
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Mar 11 03:27:27 <smickles>	!later
Mar 11 03:27:41 <mod6>	heh
Mar 11 03:27:47 *	mod6 waves 
Mar 11 03:28:00 <mod6>	im talkin to da mpex bot via private message
Mar 11 03:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.46 = 2.92 BTC [-]
Mar 11 03:28:12 <mod6>	at least thats working ok lol
Mar 11 03:28:36 <mod6>	got the depth back and output is good, now to see if I can successfully get another request
Mar 11 03:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5451 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 03:29:14 <mod6>	wtf
Mar 11 03:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	call it bitchhotter
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Mar 11 03:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.12 BTC [-]
Mar 11 03:30:19 <mod6>	heheh
Mar 11 03:30:45 <mod6>	so it seems like it gets the first request and weather, vwap or depth, works great.
Mar 11 03:31:17 <mod6>	but on the second request i only seem to get a <title>Pastebin.com Unknown Paste ID</title>
Mar 11 03:31:23 <mod6>	in html... ok
Mar 11 03:31:26 *	mod6 looks again
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Mar 11 03:32:52 <mod6>	maybe one just needs to wait a bit between requests?
Mar 11 03:34:05 <mod6>	ok one more try... its already way less shitty than yesterday
Mar 11 03:35:00 <jurov>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 03:35:01 <gribble>	2025.557307 seconds
Mar 11 03:35:10 <jurov>	what is the record?
Mar 11 03:37:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.719999 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 03:38:55 <mod6>	first command worked good
Mar 11 03:39:08 <mod6>	gonna wait before i issue next command
Mar 11 03:39:47 <mod6>	here's the output from the first, smpoe vwap: http://dpaste.com/1019052/
Mar 11 03:42:16 <mod6>	ok lets try second one?
Mar 11 03:43:01 <mod6>	ok. heh.
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Mar 11 03:43:45 <mod6>	s.dice depth returned fine: http://dpaste.com/1019055/
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Mar 11 03:48:33 <mod6>	third command worked fine, maybe I got it fixed... http://dpaste.com/1019058/
Mar 11 03:49:01 <mod6>	gonna check this in quick
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Mar 11 03:58:59 <mod6>	ok here you go guys: https://github.com/modsix/bitotter_perl/blob/master/bitotter_market_data.pl
Mar 11 03:59:59 <mod6>	i'll still add more stuff, like it checking stuff out with gribble... so thats still coming yet
Mar 11 04:01:47 <mod6>	anyway, have a good one :]
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Mar 11 04:04:46 <dub>	jurov: was over ten minutes a couple days ago
Mar 11 04:05:09 <jurov>	dub ?
Mar 11 04:05:17 <dub>	goxlag
Mar 11 04:05:40 <jurov>	2000 seconds is more than 10 min
Mar 11 04:06:15 <dub>	oh i missed a 0
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Mar 11 04:20:37 <googoo>	!help
Mar 11 04:20:37 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 11 04:20:38 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 11 04:20:39 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 11 04:21:22 <googoo>	!ticker SDICE
Mar 11 04:21:22 <assbot>	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Mar 11 04:21:41 <googoo>	!ticker G.SDICE
Mar 11 04:21:42 <assbot>	Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
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Mar 11 04:23:30 <googoo>	!ticker MPEX
Mar 11 04:23:31 <assbot>	Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
Mar 11 04:23:54 <googoo>	!ticker MPEX S.DICE
Mar 11 04:23:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.00594744 / 0.006 (30426 shares, 180.96 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00560095 / 0.006225 (403237 shares, 2,258.51 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616304 / 0.0069 (3614671 shares, 22,277.39 BTC)
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Mar 11 04:30:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.22001 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 04:49:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01231 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 06:22:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.719999 BTC [-]
Mar 11 06:22:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.719999 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Mar 11 06:23:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [+]
Mar 11 06:23:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.72 = 5.04 BTC [+]
Mar 11 06:24:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00569 = 0.569 BTC [-]
Mar 11 06:32:09 <Azelphur>	jurov: why are all your pull requests unable to be automatically merged? o.O
Mar 11 06:32:57 <dub>	jurov: while yor attention is here, coinbr orders arent processing?
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Mar 11 06:34:00 <Azelphur>	jurov: I gave you commit access, so now you can just commit direct to the main repo :)
Mar 11 06:34:06 <Azelphur>	then I don't have to fumble through git merge again lol
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Mar 11 06:40:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09998 BTC [+]
Mar 11 06:41:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.09999 = 0.6999 BTC [+]
Mar 11 06:41:13 <MJR_>	;;help
Mar 11 06:41:14 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Mar 11 06:41:26 <MJR_>	!facts
Mar 11 06:45:26 <MJR_>	;;market sell --usd 200000
Mar 11 06:45:26 <gribble>	A market order to sell 200000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would sell 4310.8978 bitcoins and would take the last price down to 45.8000 USD, resulting in an average price of 46.3940 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 111.1695 seconds
Mar 11 06:46:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.71999 = 7.1999 BTC [-]
Mar 11 06:47:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 82 @ 0.72 = 59.04 BTC [+]
Mar 11 06:47:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7249 = 3.6245 BTC [+]
Mar 11 06:49:03 <Anduck>	so, asicminer sells for 0.72 now?
Mar 11 06:51:00 <Ukto>	pretty normal
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Mar 11 07:06:15 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer sells for .8 on the other exchange
Mar 11 07:06:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i ahve seen (cuz i sold it) it trade at 1 btc
Mar 11 07:07:16 <Chaang-Noi>	the bfl chips look like massive fail, with no bfl, asicminer will get massive amounts of the network
Mar 11 07:07:26 <Chaang-Noi>	im not sure what is hotter ltc or asicminer
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Mar 11 07:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 10 @ 0.16621623 = 1.6622 BTC
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Mar 11 07:28:44 <Ukto>	https://bitfunder.com/market I like it when its all green. :P
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Mar 11 07:29:27 <BitHub>	:)
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Mar 11 07:34:04 <jurov>	on new machine that stupid thing hangs in python socket library on
Mar 11 07:34:05 <jurov>	data = self._sock.recv(left)
Mar 11 07:34:22 <jurov>	and orders arent processing then
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Mar 11 07:43:31 <Chaang-Noi>	green is good:)
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Mar 11 07:49:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00999 = 0.05 BTC [+]
Mar 11 07:52:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 34 @ 0.0056 = 0.1904 BTC [-]
Mar 11 07:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 520 @ 0.00550122 = 2.8606 BTC [-]
Mar 11 07:54:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.00550121 = 0.3301 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 07:54:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550103 = 5.501 BTC [-]
Mar 11 07:55:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00550102 = 27.5051 BTC [-]
Mar 11 07:55:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00550001 = 11 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 08:05:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09998 BTC [-]
Mar 11 08:05:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.09999 = 0.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 08:43:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09998 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 08:45:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 21 @ 0.09999 = 2.0998 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 08:51:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.44998 BTC [+]
Mar 11 08:51:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.44998 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 08:59:08 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 50
Mar 11 08:59:08 <gribble>	There are currently 33556.683 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 1653432.43668 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.7974 seconds
Mar 11 08:59:20 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 45
Mar 11 08:59:21 <gribble>	There are currently 10841.139 bitcoins demanded at or over 45.0 USD, worth 498914.857274 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.1572 seconds
Mar 11 08:59:24 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 40
Mar 11 08:59:25 <gribble>	There are currently 36780.311 bitcoins demanded at or over 40.0 USD, worth 1592725.01243 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.3440 seconds
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Mar 11 09:06:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.774999 BTC [+]
Mar 11 09:10:29 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 52
Mar 11 09:10:35 <gribble>	There are currently 39295.719 bitcoins offered at or under 52.0 USD, worth 1945806.11529 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0030 seconds
Mar 11 09:19:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.005425 = 0.0271 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 09:45:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.005425 = 0.2713 BTC [-]
Mar 11 09:46:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 09:47:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 09:48:15 <Franktank_>	anyone have ASICMiner shares to sell?
Mar 11 09:48:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.0056 = 0.196 BTC [-]
Mar 11 09:49:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 38 @ 0.000726 = 0.0276 BTC [+]
Mar 11 09:49:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 262 @ 0.000726 = 0.1902 BTC [+]
Mar 11 09:50:07 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 11 09:50:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00550001 / 0.00584919 / 0.006 (39006 shares, 228.15 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00559522 / 0.006225 (407917 shares, 2,282.39 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00614392 / 0.0069 (2523251 shares, 15,502.66 BTC)
Mar 11 09:50:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 20 @ 0.009 = 0.18 BTC [+]
Mar 11 09:51:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00192 BTC [-]
Mar 11 09:52:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 5 @ 0.00435 = 0.0218 BTC [+]
Mar 11 09:53:03 <Franktank_>	Looking for a quick loan, do have collateral to use; duration would be for about 14 hours
Mar 11 09:53:54 <Franktank_>	Whoops, wrong channel
Mar 11 09:54:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.00999 = 0.1998 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 09:55:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38999 BTC [+]
Mar 11 09:56:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.07899 BTC [+]
Mar 11 09:56:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.079 BTC [+]
Mar 11 09:56:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.09999 = 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 11 09:59:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.19879 BTC [+]
Mar 11 10:01:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.358 BTC [-]
Mar 11 10:02:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 12 @ 0.0191 = 0.2292 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 10:07:04 <Franktank_>	!ticker ASICMiner
Mar 11 10:07:05 <assbot>	Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
Mar 11 10:07:36 <Franktank_>	The TICKER CAN TALK?!?
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Mar 11 10:17:57 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc lulz
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Mar 11 10:38:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00436 BTC [+]
Mar 11 10:38:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 45 @ 0.00435 = 0.1958 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 10:45:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.774999 = 2.325 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 11:04:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00689 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 11:26:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000681 = 0.0034 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 11:28:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.000661 = 0.1322 BTC [-]
Mar 11 11:28:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 38 @ 0.00066 = 0.0251 BTC [-]
Mar 11 11:28:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 193 @ 0.000651 = 0.1256 BTC [-]
Mar 11 11:28:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 69 @ 0.000651 = 0.0449 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 11:29:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.774999 BTC [+]
Mar 11 11:31:08 <BitHub>	77 nice
Mar 11 11:31:24 <kakobrekla>	litecoin at .92 or smth
Mar 11 11:31:27 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Mar 11 11:32:45 <jurov>	;;asks 49
Mar 11 11:32:50 <gribble>	There are currently 9917.5088 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 482305.059903 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
Mar 11 11:32:59 <BitHub>	wow go litecoin
Mar 11 11:33:25 <kakobrekla>	i dumped some btc innit yesterday for joke
Mar 11 11:33:58 <vampireb>	should i sell some btc at 50.. gmm
Mar 11 11:37:53 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 11 11:37:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.00000, Best ask: 48.14800, Bid-ask spread: 0.14800, Last trade: 48.00000, 24 hour volume: 44628.51805905, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 48.39000, 24 hour vwap: 46.97845
Mar 11 11:41:17 <smickles>	;;view
Mar 11 11:41:17 <gribble>	#13941 Sun Mar 10 09:58:52 2013 smickles SELL 20.0 btc @ 49.82 usd (None)
Mar 11 11:41:21 <smickles>	;;remove 13941
Mar 11 11:41:22 <gribble>	Order 13941 removed.
Mar 11 11:41:23 <smickles>	:)
Mar 11 11:50:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1825 = 0.5475 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 11:53:56 <BitHub>	would be strange if litecoin was worth more than bitcoin?
Mar 11 11:54:41 <pigeons>	yay default twitter bootstrap https://www.bitspend.net/
Mar 11 11:55:29 <kakobrekla>	i should do one of those
Mar 11 11:55:37 <kakobrekla>	or seven
Mar 11 11:55:59 <BitHub>	haha
Mar 11 11:56:07 <pigeons>	first, hire a "growth hacker"
Mar 11 11:56:19 <pigeons>	then post it to ycombinator
Mar 11 11:56:22 <kakobrekla>	gonna launch bitbet competitor, bootbet
Mar 11 11:56:48 <kakobrekla>	or bitboot?
Mar 11 11:56:50 <kakobrekla>	not sure
Mar 11 11:57:00 <kakobrekla>	bitstrap mebbe
Mar 11 11:57:06 <kakobrekla>	bitstrap.on
Mar 11 11:57:22 <BitHub>	haha
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Mar 11 12:00:48 <kakobrekla>	my bitcoin is more reliable than my gf's regular job salary ... sad.
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Mar 11 12:01:54 <BitHub>	gf's are just another overhead
Mar 11 12:02:08 <kakobrekla>	this one can take of itself, mostly.
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Mar 11 12:02:14 <BitHub>	that get in the way of bitcoin profits
Mar 11 12:02:14 <kakobrekla>	take care*
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Mar 11 12:02:33 <kakobrekla>	she has her own coins
Mar 11 12:02:36 <kakobrekla>	:p
Mar 11 12:02:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 11 12:02:38 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225380 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 411 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 9 hours, 41 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4905349.51308 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.30515
Mar 11 12:02:42 <BitHub>	:)
Mar 11 12:03:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 11 12:03:03 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4905349.51308 based on data since last change | 5314600.93904 based on data for last three days
Mar 11 12:03:05 *	BitHub waits for girls to start getting their bitcoin qr codes tattoed on their cheeks.
Mar 11 12:03:11 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Mar 11 12:03:24 <kakobrekla>	BitHub do a regular whore checkup
Mar 11 12:03:31 <ThickAsThieves>	hookers can get their wallet on their ass
Mar 11 12:03:40 <BitHub>	lul
Mar 11 12:03:53 <kakobrekla>	or insert cas coin in the ass slot
Mar 11 12:03:54 <smickles>	;;bc,price
Mar 11 12:03:55 <gribble>	Next Price Estimate: 52.888 | Next Price In About 2 days, 23 hours, 38 minutes, and 14 seconds
Mar 11 12:04:30 <ThickAsThieves>	what is that?!
Mar 11 12:04:37 <kakobrekla>	ass slot or cas coin?
Mar 11 12:04:44 <ThickAsThieves>	nah bc,price
Mar 11 12:05:00 <kakobrekla>	close to oix or smth
Mar 11 12:05:14 <ThickAsThieves>	what factors?
Mar 11 12:05:29 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 11 12:05:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i like it
Mar 11 12:06:10 <ThickAsThieves>	as long as it always predicts a price i like
Mar 11 12:06:39 <kakobrekla>	its prolly smth like 24hrs vwap * 1.2
Mar 11 12:06:46 <kakobrekla>	or wait less, 1.05
Mar 11 12:07:04 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc at .0095btc, .418USD
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Mar 11 12:07:50 <ThickAsThieves>	it's also moving in a wave
Mar 11 12:07:59 <ThickAsThieves>	so if you want you can buy low sell high all day
Mar 11 12:08:13 <kakobrekla>	will we see 0.2?
Mar 11 12:08:16 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 11 12:08:26 <ThickAsThieves>	well .02
Mar 11 12:08:36 <kakobrekla>	ya 0.02
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Mar 11 12:09:14 <pigeons>	lucky for bitcoin sites that the favicon.ico is default a B bootstrap so you don't even have to change that
Mar 11 12:10:29 <kakobrekla>	loool
Mar 11 12:12:16 <jurov>	like, another level of laziness
Mar 11 12:13:17 <BitHub>	noone can seem to hire a decent programmer
Mar 11 12:13:41 <BitHub>	or web designer, i'm not sure why
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Mar 11 12:14:57 <ThickAsThieves>	small and new businesses undervalue those services greatly
Mar 11 12:15:19 <ThickAsThieves>	also, there are limited providers tahtw ill do it for bitcoin
Mar 11 12:16:10 <ThickAsThieves>	even CoinLab as a ghetto ass logo
Mar 11 12:16:13 <ThickAsThieves>	has
Mar 11 12:16:53 <ThickAsThieves>	!ticker
Mar 11 12:16:53 <assbot>	It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
Mar 11 12:16:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 11 12:16:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.44002, Best ask: 47.88173, Bid-ask spread: 0.44171, Last trade: 47.88173, 24 hour volume: 46940.18600458, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 48.39000, 24 hour vwap: 47.04225
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Mar 11 12:21:25 <pigeons>	"even" coinlab? what is more ghetto-ass than coinlab?
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Mar 11 12:22:39 <smickles>	"over the hill"
Mar 11 12:22:50 <smickles>	it's back to 2 now
Mar 11 12:22:56 <thestringpuller>	smickles: make me stop playing simcity
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Mar 11 12:23:23 <smickles>	thestringpuller: it's always on drm is about the most unethical thing a game dev can do
Mar 11 12:23:32 <smickles>	you shouldn't have paid for that game
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Mar 11 12:23:44 <ThickAsThieves>	"even someone with the budget and resources" like coinlab
Mar 11 12:23:48 <smickles>	and it makes you a bad person if you keep playing it
Mar 11 12:23:49 <thestringpuller>	I didn't? My friend worked for Maxis this summer...
Mar 11 12:24:33 <smickles>	plus, clearly they are going to try to force people into 'micro transaction' in order to get the full game expierence
Mar 11 12:24:40 <thestringpuller>	It's not really always on DRM, it uses a server to determine the global market and make sure you're playing legit in non-sandbox mode.
Mar 11 12:24:58 <smickles>	thestringpuller: but you can't play it unless you are connected
Mar 11 12:25:37 <pigeons>	paci: do you happen to be paci from throck?
Mar 11 12:25:40 <smickles>	it's the most pervasive sort of always on drm
Mar 11 12:25:50 <paci>	pigeons: yes
Mar 11 12:25:58 <smickles>	;;google throck
Mar 11 12:25:59 <gribble>	Urban Dictionary: throck: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=throck>; Urban Dictionary: throck morton: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=throck%20morton>; Throckmorton ISD: <http://www.throck.org/>
Mar 11 12:25:59 <thestringpuller>	you can't play most steam games without being connected to steam...
Mar 11 12:26:11 <pigeons>	smickles: therocktading.com
Mar 11 12:26:19 <smickles>	ah
Mar 11 12:26:30 <pigeons>	therocktrading.com i mean
Mar 11 12:26:41 <smickles>	thestringpuller: all the single player steam games i have can be played offline
Mar 11 12:27:07 <pigeons>	paci has not yet been rescued from the cult of ruby
Mar 11 12:27:11 <thestringpuller>	simcity isn't as single play as the sims online...but I mean I don't mind it, for the experience at least.
Mar 11 12:27:38 <thestringpuller>	The Glass Box engine is pretty epic, Andrew Whitton should be congratulated.
Mar 11 12:27:41 <smickles>	you're part of the group of people who are making the gaming industry worse
Mar 11 12:27:44 <smickles>	:P
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Mar 11 12:27:50 <thestringpuller>	I don't work for Maxis!
Mar 11 12:27:53 <jcpham>	i like to play simcity with paper and pencil
Mar 11 12:27:53 <thestringpuller>	My friend does
Mar 11 12:28:10 <thestringpuller>	The game was free. I contribute to this nonsense in neither way, I am just a huuuuge SimCity fan.
Mar 11 12:28:11 <smickles>	it wasn't so much maxis (as i understan)
Mar 11 12:28:17 <pigeons>	i hate my friends who are city planners and try to play sim city with real people, fuckers
Mar 11 12:28:24 <smickles>	it was EA forcing them to do it
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Mar 11 12:28:40 <thestringpuller>	Maxis designed it to run with servers. That's just how Glassbox runs...
Mar 11 12:29:36 <smickles>	ask your friend, i'd be interested to know, I think they designed glassbox to run with servers because EA wanted to do this
Mar 11 12:29:40 <pigeons>	thestringpuller: you really sound like a puppet/shill
Mar 11 12:29:59 <imsaguy>	+1
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Mar 11 12:30:43 <smickles>	I was going to buy this simcity, until i realized all this, then i spent 90 usd on a humble bundle :P
Mar 11 12:35:29 <thestringpuller>	That's because EA is greedy. Maxis is still Maxis though. I really do feel Will Wright would say it's worthy of being a spiritual successor sans "EA troubles".
Mar 11 12:36:29 <thestringpuller>	Play SimCity 2000, it's pretty much the same thing :P
Mar 11 12:36:59 <smickles>	no doubt it's a fun game, i wish ea wasn't so greedy as to try this stunt and I hope they get burned buy it.
Mar 11 12:37:00 <pigeons>	on snes
Mar 11 12:37:55 <thestringpuller>	smickles: you don't burn them by boycott however. You boycott by rallying wall street...
Mar 11 12:37:55 <smickles>	I actually have that simcity on snes within 20 feet of me :)
Mar 11 12:39:42 <thestringpuller>	you should convice people you know who own EA stock to take a bearish position :P
Mar 11 12:39:52 <smickles>	heh, not possible. wall street loves a company who will put the screws to the consumer like that while the consumer thanks them for it
Mar 11 12:40:24 <smickles>	it's share price has been up all thru the launch
Mar 11 12:40:26 <thestringpuller>	SquareEnix will out pace them...
Mar 11 12:40:34 <thestringpuller>	from the east...
Mar 11 12:40:41 <thestringpuller>	their acquisition process is a lot neater
Mar 11 12:41:01 <thestringpuller>	so I would rather put money into SquareEnix rather than EA
Mar 11 12:41:41 <smickles>	wow, ea is up 3% just today
Mar 11 12:43:51 <thestringpuller>	so smickles how would you teach EA a lesson
Mar 11 12:43:56 <thestringpuller>	they have their acquisitions by the balls
Mar 11 12:44:04 <thestringpuller>	they pay them ridiculous salaries
Mar 11 12:44:17 <thestringpuller>	the lead architect of sim city made ball-player money
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Mar 11 12:44:38 <smickles>	me personally or though expierement
Mar 11 12:44:49 <smickles>	er, spelling
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Mar 11 12:47:26 <smickles>	open source tends to win out in the end in mature markets, just look at the os wars
Mar 11 12:48:02 <jcpham>	OS/2 is crushing the competition
Mar 11 12:48:17 <smickles>	it was things like atari, then windows, but guess what, more android than any other individual os
Mar 11 12:49:33 <smickles>	i dunno, the issue with ea, it's much the same as people giving up liberty for security
Mar 11 12:50:10 <thestringpuller>	well people are notorious for stealing computer games
Mar 11 12:50:22 <smickles>	so it would probably take an overall cultrue shift
Mar 11 12:50:24 <thestringpuller>	and PC is the smallest market share in the game industry....
Mar 11 12:50:46 <smickles>	thestringpuller: but time and time again it is shown that piracy increases sales
Mar 11 12:51:36 <thestringpuller>	i think it does now, some people are stuck on old business models
Mar 11 12:51:48 <thestringpuller>	as you said
Mar 11 12:51:50 <thestringpuller>	culture shift
Mar 11 12:51:56 <smickles>	it did even back in the days of buying screensavers
Mar 11 12:52:25 <smickles>	people pirated those things like all fuck, passing floppies around the office
Mar 11 12:52:31 <thestringpuller>	however nowadays games that once would be placed on DVD's can be downloaded straight to disk as a legitimate option
Mar 11 12:53:02 <thestringpuller>	so there are no disks to pass around
Mar 11 12:53:18 <kakobrekla>	BFL can be saved! http://phys.org/news/2013-03-caltech-self-healing-electronic-chips.html
Mar 11 12:53:24 <smickles>	oh, and 'the law' has to realize that a digital download should have the same rights as a 'physical' copy
Mar 11 12:53:36 <smickles>	even though they are both physical things
Mar 11 12:54:04 <thestringpuller>	unless you're oracle and "license" seats
Mar 11 12:54:18 <kakobrekla>	> the team destroyed various parts of their chips by zapping them multiple times with a high-power laser, and then observed as the chips automatically developed a work-around in less than a second.
Mar 11 12:54:27 <kakobrekla>	can replace clock buffers!
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Mar 11 13:11:57 <Namworld>	Did MPEx change gpg key or something?
Mar 11 13:12:04 <mod6>	ya
Mar 11 13:12:21 <Namworld>	Explains why I can't decode reply...
Mar 11 13:16:02 <jcpham>	if mpex changed it key doesn't that fuck up everything
Mar 11 13:17:10 <Namworld>	How so?
Mar 11 13:21:30 <pigeons>	it means for mpex to understand your orders and for you to understand mpex replies you must use the new key
Mar 11 13:22:03 <Namworld>	Yeah, but that doesn't fuck up everything. Just requires a small adjustment
Mar 11 13:23:03 <jcpham>	mircea when does rota get paid
Mar 11 13:23:14 <jcpham>	i'll take quarterly installements
Mar 11 13:23:17 <pigeons>	anything little mircea_popescu can do to improve the customer experience, don't worry the opposite will happen
Mar 11 13:25:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.01231 = 0.1354 BTC [-]
Mar 11 13:26:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00999 = 0.0599 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 13:33:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.01231 = 0.0246 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 13:42:11 <ThickAsThieves>	Just got .002 in bitbet referalls, what should i buy?
Mar 11 13:42:13 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 11 13:42:54 <ZedsterX>	go to disney world!
Mar 11 13:42:55 <kakobrekla>	a bitbet!
Mar 11 13:43:07 <ZedsterX>	or that
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Mar 11 14:01:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 14:37:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00530001 = 5.3 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 14:55:59 <kakobrekla>	so if my maff is right, bit4x leveraged ~50 mio units so far un forex
Mar 11 14:56:12 <kakobrekla>	s/un/on
Mar 11 14:57:13 <mod6>	nice kakobrekla
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Mar 11 15:00:32 <kakobrekla>	is not bad, but could be easily 100 times that
Mar 11 15:00:44 <kakobrekla>	im waiting for coinbase to bring wallstret into bitcoin or whatever
Mar 11 15:00:54 <mod6>	lol
Mar 11 15:01:31 <pigeons>	they aren't even using a wall street bank
Mar 11 15:01:37 <pigeons>	silicoin valley bank
Mar 11 15:01:42 <pigeons>	oops silicon
Mar 11 15:01:46 <mod6>	you're like 24 moves ahead
Mar 11 15:01:52 <kakobrekla>	maybe they know someone there ya know'
Mar 11 15:01:56 <Anduck>	i like silicoins
Mar 11 15:02:32 <kakobrekla>	my neibghours brothers mother in law has a friend whos boss worked for someone at wallstreet
Mar 11 15:02:35 <kakobrekla>	theres a connect
Mar 11 15:03:16 <pigeons>	i'm waiting for coinlab to bring bitcoin mining to pc game economies, but they failed at that, so maybe starting smaller like bringing bitcoin to wallstreet will work
Mar 11 15:03:29 <kakobrekla>	:D
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Mar 11 15:05:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Mar 11 15:05:55 <gribble>	Time since last block: 12 minutes and 43 seconds
Mar 11 15:06:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 11 15:06:05 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4947308.77993 based on data since last change | 5380829.27594 based on data for last three days
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Mar 11 15:15:23 <deadweasel>	pigeons, you should go buy silicoins.com
Mar 11 15:15:30 <deadweasel>	and start an alt currency
Mar 11 15:15:43 <deadweasel>	it's a great name you just made up
Mar 11 15:15:55 <Anduck>	hmmmm
Mar 11 15:16:07 <Anduck>	silicoins r as g00d as buttcoins?
Mar 11 15:16:26 <pigeons>	depends on your preference
Mar 11 15:16:29 <deadweasel>	.com is already taken
Mar 11 15:16:34 <Anduck>	is there buttcoinz yet+
Mar 11 15:16:47 <deadweasel>	.net .biz .org or silico.in
Mar 11 15:16:53 <pigeons>	yes buttcoins have already failed
Mar 11 15:16:54 <deadweasel>	i like silico.in
Mar 11 15:17:04 <Anduck>	shitco.in
Mar 11 15:17:23 <Anduck>	sorry
Mar 11 15:17:26 <Anduck>	couldnt resist
Mar 11 15:17:51 <deadweasel>	haha
Mar 11 15:18:02 <deadweasel>	silico.in is taken
Mar 11 15:18:27 <deadweasel>	shitcoin is available, Anduck
Mar 11 15:18:36 <Anduck>	yaay
Mar 11 15:18:43 <deadweasel>	you're set
Mar 11 15:18:52 <Anduck>	i could premine it like..
Mar 11 15:18:57 <Anduck>	shitload of premining
Mar 11 15:19:04 <Anduck>	then pump n dump
Mar 11 15:19:23 <Anduck>	SH*TCOIN IS THE NEW B*TCOIN
Mar 11 15:19:34 <deadweasel>	It's the SHIT!
Mar 11 15:19:37 <deadweasel>	coin
Mar 11 15:19:43 <Anduck>	but you will -never- know, i might mean batcoin!
Mar 11 15:22:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 13 @ 0.005101 = 0.0663 BTC [-]
Mar 11 15:22:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 119 @ 0.0051 = 0.6069 BTC [-]
Mar 11 15:22:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 131 @ 0.0051 = 0.6681 BTC [-]
Mar 11 15:22:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0045 = 0.0135 BTC [-]
Mar 11 15:22:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 31 @ 0.00442 = 0.137 BTC [-]
Mar 11 15:22:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1003 @ 0.004401 = 4.4142 BTC [-]
Mar 11 15:23:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Mar 11 15:23:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.774999 BTC [+]
Mar 11 15:24:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.775 = 3.875 BTC [+]
Mar 11 15:25:38 <dub>	new bitcoin pos terminals?
Mar 11 15:25:39 <dub>	http://www.itnews.com.au/News/336046,herp-derp-eftpos-update-goes-public.aspx
Mar 11 15:27:18 <ZedsterX>	ahhh so shatcoin i like it
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Mar 11 15:51:37 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 15:51:37 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 11 15:52:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 11 15:52:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.10003, Best ask: 48.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34997, Last trade: 48.45000, 24 hour volume: 42245.32165635, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 48.45000, 24 hour vwap: 47.30002
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Mar 11 15:59:06 <ThickAsThieves>	crypto-trade ipo is open it seems https://btct.co/security/CRYPTO-TRADE
Mar 11 15:59:28 <kakobrekla>	nice bid wall
Mar 11 15:59:49 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
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Mar 11 16:02:01 <pigeons>	what is "crypto trade"?
Mar 11 16:02:15 <kakobrekla>	its a trade made out of crypto.
Mar 11 16:02:27 <pigeons>	i'll give you one blowfish for 3 ceaser ciphers
Mar 11 16:02:30 <Lyspooner>	or hard-to-decipher trading
Mar 11 16:02:52 <Lyspooner>	I will 3Sx2Bgg 400 of the hri££443.x
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Mar 11 16:04:07 <ThickAsThieves>	it's just way overpriced
Mar 11 16:06:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC
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Mar 11 16:07:06 <ThickAsThieves>	balla
Mar 11 16:08:23 <benkay>	you guys
Mar 11 16:08:30 <benkay>	with the silly
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Mar 11 16:10:36 <pigeons>	of course the stock is out before the business, see what bitbet has given us
Mar 11 16:12:16 <jcpham>	i just updated my bitcoin-qt
Mar 11 16:12:26 <pigeons>	"I will own 34% of the company. My associate of esecurity SA will own 33%. The main developer working on this project will own 33%."
Mar 11 16:12:27 <jcpham>	6 hours to reindex
Mar 11 16:12:32 <pigeons>	"Marketing Strategy: The listing itself and the fact that 50% of the company will be publically owned, make the promotion done mainly by itself. Each shareholder will have great interest to use our service instead another."
Mar 11 16:12:38 <pigeons>	jcpham: not bad, took me 3 days
Mar 11 16:12:42 <jcpham>	so i just did a 6 hour software upgrade on bitcoin-qt
Mar 11 16:12:51 <jcpham>	jeez
Mar 11 16:13:00 <jcpham>	they maybe should warn peeps
Mar 11 16:13:07 <jcpham>	beforehand considering it is money
Mar 11 16:13:17 <pigeons>	so crypto-trade is a 150% company
Mar 11 16:13:23 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 11 16:16:30 <ThickAsThieves>	Initial IPO is $96k worth
Mar 11 16:16:42 <ThickAsThieves>	initial ipo... sry
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Mar 11 16:21:48 <Bowjob>	meow
Mar 11 16:22:26 <mod6>	sup
Mar 11 16:22:51 <Bowjob>	nm,
Mar 11 16:23:22 <Bowjob>	i just found out charlie shrem wanted to work with kimdotcom for a bitcoin card?
Mar 11 16:23:23 <Bowjob>	O_O
Mar 11 16:24:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.0145 = 0.3625 BTC [+]
Mar 11 16:24:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.014 = 0.14 BTC [-]
Mar 11 16:24:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0135 = 0.0675 BTC [-]
Mar 11 16:25:52 <kakobrekla>	what came in between? wall street?
Mar 11 16:27:44 <pigeons>	if you are kimdotcom, why would you want to get in the bitcoin card business? if you were in the bitcoin debit card business, why would you want anything to do with kimdotcom while you are getting dumped by all your banking partners?
Mar 11 16:28:15 <benkay>	because if you are kimdotcom you can throw money at a business problem + moderately trusted peeps and see if shit sticks
Mar 11 16:28:46 <Bowjob>	you can ask him yourself
Mar 11 16:28:46 <Bowjob>	https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/311196890354036737
Mar 11 16:28:48 <benkay>	dunno if you looked into the team he rounded up to do mega2
Mar 11 16:29:07 <benkay>	oh yes let me sign up for a twitter account and communicate with public enemy number one in public
Mar 11 16:29:25 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 11 16:30:04 <FabianB>	MPEx.rb 0.4.6 released (http://github.com/fawuxi/mpex), now with active mpex proxy discovery
Mar 11 16:30:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC
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Mar 11 16:32:41 <maximian>	FabianB: can you give an example of how to interact with the irc bots using MPEx.rb?
Mar 11 16:33:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC
Mar 11 16:33:32 <FabianB>	maximian: run 'mpex -i'
Mar 11 16:33:47 <FabianB>	maximian: then type 'irc', it'll connect to irc
Mar 11 16:33:53 <ThickAsThieves>	yay SDICE finally had a killer day
Mar 11 16:34:01 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1612222#msg1612222
Mar 11 16:34:01 <FabianB>	maximian: then all the commands are run through the irc bots
Mar 11 16:34:40 <maximian>	ok, I wanted to ensure that commands were running through IRC, so I removed the URL from the config file, and this is what I get:
Mar 11 16:34:40 <maximian>	Sending order to MPEX: STAT
Mar 11 16:34:41 <maximian>	--url option is required
Mar 11 16:34:41 <maximian>	exit
Mar 11 16:35:31 <FabianB>	maximian: oh, never thought of that; the option checking always requires it so far
Mar 11 16:35:44 <maximian>	I suppose some kind of verification that IRC is indeed being used would be nice
Mar 11 16:36:07 <FabianB>	maximian: good suggestion, will do that
Mar 11 16:36:08 <maximian>	but anyway, great work, and thanks for the update. auto-proxy discovery is a good idea.
Mar 11 16:37:03 <FabianB>	maximian: it's not really auto yet, but if it can't connect to the current proxy via http it'll tell you to connect to irc and type 'proxies' which you can add to your config
Mar 11 16:37:17 <maximian>	ic - cool
Mar 11 16:38:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.09999 = 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 11 16:38:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 18 @ 0.1 = 1.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 16:39:40 <maximian>	ThisAsThieves wow
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Mar 11 16:40:07 <maximian>	ThickAsThieves wow on the latest S.DICE report
Mar 11 16:40:32 <ThickAsThieves>	yep 1000btc in one day
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Mar 11 16:42:25 <maximian>	I love it… flies in the face of the idea that as the exchange rate goes up, s.dice profits go down
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Mar 11 16:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.00569995 = 0.342 BTC [+]
Mar 11 16:43:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1940 @ 0.00569996 = 11.0579 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 16:44:22 <ThickAsThieves>	well, remember we can just as easily lose 2000btc tomorrow
Mar 11 16:44:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 7 @ 0.02001 = 0.1401 BTC [-]
Mar 11 16:44:55 <maximian>	true, but nice to see that kind of betting action
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Mar 11 16:47:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 16:51:13 <ThickAsThieves>	poor guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg1610708#msg1610708
Mar 11 16:51:45 <Anduck>	!ticker btctc asicminer
Mar 11 16:51:47 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Mar 11 16:51:49 <Anduck>	:I
Mar 11 16:51:52 <Anduck>	dude
Mar 11 16:51:58 <Anduck>	assbot, i dare you
Mar 11 16:52:06 <Anduck>	i double dare you
Mar 11 16:52:11 <Anduck>	TELL ME
Mar 11 16:52:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker b asic
Mar 11 16:52:27 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Mar 11 16:54:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01988 BTC [+]
Mar 11 16:55:47 <FabianB>	maximian: added irc conversation logging on master, will be included in next release
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Mar 11 16:57:07 <kakobrekla>	> luck has been terrible enough for the last week.
Mar 11 16:57:10 <kakobrekla>	oh boo hoo.
Mar 11 16:57:28 <kakobrekla>	hes taking a fat 7% or something
Mar 11 16:58:51 <Anduck>	how much ASICMINER pays divs?
Mar 11 16:58:52 <Anduck>	in %?
Mar 11 16:59:33 <maximian>	FabianB that's great, looking forward to it
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Mar 11 17:00:18 <Anduck>	btw
Mar 11 17:00:21 <Anduck>	the  guy in that pastebin
Mar 11 17:00:25 <FabianB>	will try to add another small feature and might release in about half an hour
Mar 11 17:00:32 <Anduck>	he's probably jew
Mar 11 17:00:34 <Anduck>	sorry jews
Mar 11 17:00:35 <Anduck>	no offence
Mar 11 17:00:52 <Anduck>	but he wrote so bad english too so he might be br
Mar 11 17:01:05 <Anduck>	or russian... but russians speak -no english- at all so it's not possibru
Mar 11 17:02:52 <benkay>	bigotry aside, pool-bro updated his live copy of bitcoind
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Mar 11 17:05:32 <benkay>	good for him, he had a hot wallet
Mar 11 17:05:45 <benkay>	bad for him, it had a significant amount of btc
Mar 11 17:06:28 <benkay>	lessons like these turn people who don't care about cross-checking into people who care lots about cross-checking
Mar 11 17:06:54 <kakobrekla>	:)
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Mar 11 17:07:13 <Anduck>	well
Mar 11 17:07:19 <Anduck>	that hot wallet had a bit too much imo..
Mar 11 17:07:49 <jcpham>	btc guild is the monster right now too
Mar 11 17:07:56 <Anduck>	hmm
Mar 11 17:07:57 <Anduck>	yes
Mar 11 17:07:57 <jcpham>	"emptied the hot wallet"
Mar 11 17:08:11 <jcpham>	on the pool with the most network hashrate
Mar 11 17:08:13 <jcpham>	atm
Mar 11 17:09:31 <jcpham>	so how many sites had press on the 333btc lost for 12k last week
Mar 11 17:09:41 <jcpham>	bam here's 60k at a pool this week
Mar 11 17:10:14 <kakobrekla>	and noone will cover it
Mar 11 17:10:20 <kakobrekla>	as in press
Mar 11 17:10:24 <Anduck>	hmm
Mar 11 17:10:37 <Anduck>	whatcha guess, who will pay back the btc taken from eleuthrias pool?
Mar 11 17:10:44 <Anduck>	i mean, what kind of %
Mar 11 17:10:45 <jcpham>	i doubt this gets any attention, right
Mar 11 17:11:20 <jcpham>	oopsie i restarted upgraded bitcoind on a production system and there was no db
Mar 11 17:11:33 <jcpham>	so the miners were doing super low diff shares
Mar 11 17:11:44 <Anduck>	indeed..
Mar 11 17:11:57 <jcpham>	because btcguild was forked
Mar 11 17:12:05 <jcpham>	except this is the largest pool
Mar 11 17:12:10 <jcpham>	that's areal problem
Mar 11 17:12:28 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 11 17:12:35 <kakobrekla>	even the pool ops are incapable fucks
Mar 11 17:12:41 <benkay>	hey now
Mar 11 17:12:42 <jcpham>	i'm not sure I would have written that post
Mar 11 17:12:49 <benkay>	make mistakes
Mar 11 17:12:50 <jcpham>	if he doesn't understand how bad that can be
Mar 11 17:13:08 <benkay>	even capable fucks were incapable at one time
Mar 11 17:13:12 <benkay>	not immutable state
Mar 11 17:14:19 <jcpham>	do you think it took two minutes to empty the wallet
Mar 11 17:14:20 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Mar 11 17:14:24 <kakobrekla>	look at deepbit
Mar 11 17:14:24 <jcpham>	and that's how he found out
Mar 11 17:14:38 <jcpham>	the empty wallet was the first indicator of a problem
Mar 11 17:14:44 <kakobrekla>	retarded guy with pool falling apart
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Mar 11 17:14:54 <kakobrekla>	guild cant manage his hot wallet apparently
Mar 11 17:15:06 <kakobrekla>	god know what else is flanky
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Mar 11 17:15:38 <kakobrekla>	and with this recent redesign dunno
Mar 11 17:15:42 <kakobrekla>	went a step back
Mar 11 17:15:43 <kakobrekla>	the guild
Mar 11 17:18:11 <kakobrekla>	"welcome to the news site, its not just black and white any more"
Mar 11 17:18:17 <kakobrekla>	yeah well its white and dark blue now
Mar 11 17:18:20 <kakobrekla>	much better.
Mar 11 17:18:49 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder how many coins asicminer slurped up
Mar 11 17:18:53 <ThickAsThieves>	and if they are returning them
Mar 11 17:18:54 <kakobrekla>	(i was quoting him, srsly)
Mar 11 17:18:56 <Anduck>	hopefully not much
Mar 11 17:21:27 <kakobrekla>	benkay its like this, everyone being active in btc biz will sooner or later make a double payment
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Mar 11 17:21:44 <kakobrekla>	you gotta expect that
Mar 11 17:21:47 <kakobrekla>	and be ready to handle it
Mar 11 17:22:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.2 = 1.2 BTC [+]
Mar 11 17:22:54 <benkay>	my attitude is "how will the bitcoin community endeavour to fuck me today"?
Mar 11 17:23:06 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Mar 11 17:23:18 <benkay>	well
Mar 11 17:23:18 <benkay>	subset
Mar 11 17:23:24 <benkay>	subset of whole community
Mar 11 17:23:38 <benkay>	also "how am i going to fuck myself with this setup"
Mar 11 17:24:16 <kakobrekla>	well thats entierly up to you
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Mar 11 17:33:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 17:37:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 11 17:38:07 <kakobrekla>	china pwns america in hashrate
Mar 11 17:38:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Mar 11 17:39:08 <pigeons>	how many crypto-trade shares sold before he can open the website
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Mar 11 17:40:38 <jcpham>	http://youtu.be/rO54gzfite4
Mar 11 17:41:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00999 = 0.05 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 17:43:22 <gesell>	mpex is still down?
Mar 11 17:43:37 <kakobrekla>	proxy is up
Mar 11 17:43:52 <gesell>	at coinbr  you mean?
Mar 11 17:43:58 <kakobrekla>	correct
Mar 11 17:44:04 <gesell>	so why is it still down though?
Mar 11 17:44:09 <gesell>	what are the reasons?
Mar 11 17:44:11 <kakobrekla>	ddos
Mar 11 17:44:17 <gesell>	ahuh
Mar 11 17:44:33 <gesell>	he's not using cloudfare or the likes?
Mar 11 17:44:40 <kakobrekla>	thats for kids
Mar 11 17:44:58 <gesell>	well if you cant act like an adult at least keep up with the kids
Mar 11 17:45:05 <gesell>	i dont mean you
Mar 11 17:45:08 <gesell>	but i mean in general
Mar 11 17:45:17 <gesell>	the natural extent of the analogy
Mar 11 17:45:23 <kakobrekla>	its not something cloudfare is ment to handle
Mar 11 17:45:34 <gesell>	and what is the plan?
Mar 11 17:45:39 <gesell>	thought it would only be down for a day
Mar 11 17:45:54 <kakobrekla>	you can use bots on irc or proxies for now
Mar 11 17:46:22 <gesell>	i live my life ghetto but this is just lame
Mar 11 17:46:26 <gesell>	the excuses are lame
Mar 11 17:46:39 <gesell>	i dont mean this against you at all
Mar 11 17:46:52 <gesell>	not against anyone actually
Mar 11 17:46:55 <jcpham>	it's my fault gesell
Mar 11 17:47:04 <jcpham>	i accidentally cut the fiber
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Mar 11 17:47:10 <jcpham>	it is being spliced as we speak
Mar 11 17:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	soo what's new ?
Mar 11 17:47:35 <jcpham>	channel flaming you
Mar 11 17:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	o rly ?
Mar 11 17:47:40 <jcpham>	busted ass mpex
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Mar 11 17:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	must increase fee ?
Mar 11 17:47:59 <jcpham>	mos def
Mar 11 17:48:00 <gesell>	im not flaming. just saying id like to know more about why its down
Mar 11 17:48:02 <jcpham>	50btc
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Mar 11 17:48:23 <mircea_popescu>	gesell ddos.
Mar 11 17:48:32 <jurov>	to be mitigated using .... RAID???
Mar 11 17:48:35 <gesell>	why not host some static pages on free cloud services?
Mar 11 17:48:40 <jcpham>	that's not good enough mircea_popescu
Mar 11 17:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	jurov that's unrelated.
Mar 11 17:48:46 <jcpham>	we'll need a graph or something
Mar 11 17:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	gesell you can use the proxy listed in topic or else the irc bots to trade
Mar 11 17:48:55 <jurov>	yes... but it looked liike i'm ddosed
Mar 11 17:49:19 <mircea_popescu>	jurov all cloud is yet kinda shaky you know ?
Mar 11 17:49:25 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: proxy is fine. just curious the logic. seems that loosing the face of mpex (which the web presense is part of) would make some question
Mar 11 17:49:44 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: the questions are natural for investors. and also natural to want more details...
Mar 11 17:49:58 <gesell>	if its ddos, whats the plan. just no web presence?
Mar 11 17:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	gesell surely. there's been ample disucssion here and also reports regularly posted in the forum.
Mar 11 17:50:06 <gesell>	okay
Mar 11 17:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	let me get you a link eh ?
Mar 11 17:50:15 <gesell>	yup, cool
Mar 11 17:50:20 <dub>	its raining in the cloud today
Mar 11 17:50:46 <dub>	jurov: you did tick the persistent storage box rite? don't do a poland
Mar 11 17:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	gesell https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1598165#msg1598165
Mar 11 17:51:19 <mircea_popescu>	o, he moved all coinbr to amazon ?
Mar 11 17:51:21 <jurov>	dub yes that was first thing i checked
Mar 11 17:51:46 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, pretty much. except keys and such
Mar 11 17:53:11 <jurov>	i did except flaky performance...but 25 second I/O delays causing whole machine to drop connections? er, uhm.
Mar 11 17:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	heh latest update from tech
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Mar 11 17:54:27 <mircea_popescu>	"We got the server rebuilt. Issues as expected. It's working in RAID 10 right now. I know you said RAID 6 but before we take this down again, can you live with 10?"
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Mar 11 17:55:10 <dub>	true ballers roll raid 1000
Mar 11 17:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like... meh, watch me go 10 and then have two disks fail.
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Mar 11 17:56:40 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu when does rota get paid
Mar 11 17:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	end of the year.
Mar 11 17:56:49 <jcpham>	you can pay me quarterly, I'm fine with it
Mar 11 17:56:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 11 17:57:10 <jcpham>	what if you can't afford it by then
Mar 11 17:57:19 <mircea_popescu>	then you're sol aren;t you
Mar 11 17:57:24 <jcpham>	hurrrrr
Mar 11 17:58:03 <jurov>	jcpham, go to btcjam and show them your proof of employment
Mar 11 17:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	he's employed now ?!
Mar 11 17:58:20 <jcpham>	no thank you jurov
Mar 11 17:58:27 <jurov>	"employed" in rota
Mar 11 17:58:36 <jcpham>	why would i even have a btcjam account
Mar 11 17:58:46 <jcpham>	i heard they loan liquidity to an exchange
Mar 11 17:58:56 <jurov>	haha... ashamed, better forgot
Mar 11 17:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i wouldn't wory about that, it's kinda like coinlab bringing rupees to wall street
Mar 11 18:00:15 <jurov>	no they're all about bahts, have you seen the symbol?
Mar 11 18:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, things are getting pretty much wrapped up, im upgrading mpex.co back online from "this week" to "today".
Mar 11 18:00:52 <jurov>	yup, congrats
Mar 11 18:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	youtube being fags : http://www.youtube.com/embed/8c1BQkKUsx0 < does not need flash ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c1BQkKUsx0 does need flash
Mar 11 18:03:19 <jurov>	have you seen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg1610708#msg1610708 ?
Mar 11 18:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	howly fuck
Mar 11 18:04:01 <mircea_popescu>	it just never ends does it
Mar 11 18:04:57 <mircea_popescu>	wait. this is asicminer pool ?
Mar 11 18:04:59 <dub>	this DrG idiot
Mar 11 18:05:30 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: thanks for the link
Mar 11 18:05:36 <jcpham>	yeah mircea_popescu
Mar 11 18:05:48 <jcpham>	the op of the asicminer pool decided to fork his pool for a few minutes
Mar 11 18:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	so basically asicminer made a shitton
Mar 11 18:05:53 <jcpham>	accidentally
Mar 11 18:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	and there's going to be drama ?
Mar 11 18:06:03 <dub>	not commiserate with teh ideals of bitcoin, kind of person bitcoin does not need.. The person is blatantly and willfully violating the trust of Bitcoin network and for that he/she should be reprimanded.
Mar 11 18:06:06 <jcpham>	so while bitcoind was running with no db
Mar 11 18:06:12 <dub>	what is this shit
Mar 11 18:06:13 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: are you seriously considering a gmail protocol? this seems nuts. maybe you should consider https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149 first
Mar 11 18:06:14 <jcpham>	i assume the miners were doing diff 0 shares
Mar 11 18:06:16 <mircea_popescu>	dub da fck is this ?!
Mar 11 18:06:28 <jcpham>	until the hot wallet was empty
Mar 11 18:06:48 <PsychoticBoy>	btcguild is fucked, hopefully he did not lose that much
Mar 11 18:06:57 <mircea_popescu>	gesell mail is not nuts. mail is the strongest, oldest and in general best service ever implemented on the internet.
Mar 11 18:07:01 <dub>	I didn't think bitcoind offered work until it was synced
Mar 11 18:07:10 <mircea_popescu>	in the worst case scenario, mail is the backstop.
Mar 11 18:07:20 <jborkl_>	I think it would have been network diff at the point of the blockchain download you were mining
Mar 11 18:07:20 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: yes mail is but using google as a trusted host gate, not sure
Mar 11 18:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	dub it was prolly bugged.
Mar 11 18:07:27 <jcpham>	i upgraded bitcoind today
Mar 11 18:07:30 <jcpham>	it resyncs
Mar 11 18:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	gesell just had that as an arbitrary name
Mar 11 18:07:36 <dub>	yeah new db
Mar 11 18:07:36 <jcpham>	dunno how a pool handles the resync
Mar 11 18:07:39 <jborkl_>	at block 195000 it was i think 1.95 m for example
Mar 11 18:07:41 <mircea_popescu>	it wouldn't certainly be a case of trusting google.
Mar 11 18:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	the discussion was anyway an "in principle" thing.
Mar 11 18:08:14 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: okay
Mar 11 18:08:25 <FabianB>	MPEx.rb 0.5.0 released (https://github.com/fawuxi/mpex/) includes irc convo logging and a new 'portfolio' command with prediction of your total portfolio value
Mar 11 18:08:28 <jborkl_>	so while he was dl, blocks would have been synching fast- but mining at 200k diff
Mar 11 18:08:35 <FabianB>	maximian: ^^
Mar 11 18:08:57 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: also proxy discovery included now :)
Mar 11 18:08:59 <jborkl_>	for example
Mar 11 18:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB :D
Mar 11 18:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	irc logging is a good idea. include a ticker to bold my lines ? :D
Mar 11 18:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	i mean a tickbox
Mar 11 18:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	"If bank places by mistake 10k into your account, and you cash it out, your will probably rot in jail.."
Mar 11 18:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	what world do these people live in, seriously ?!
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Mar 11 18:10:20 <dub>	thats true, at least here
Mar 11 18:10:25 <pigeons>	if you dont give it back you will
Mar 11 18:10:44 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: it's just the conversation of MPEx.rb with the irc bots, not of this channel
Mar 11 18:10:52 <jcpham>	if the pool with the most hashrate is mining on a non -up-to-date copy of the blockchain
Mar 11 18:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB :p
Mar 11 18:10:54 <jcpham>	that's an issue
Mar 11 18:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	dub they will have to sue for unjust enrichment. they may win it,
Mar 11 18:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	but then again they may not.
Mar 11 18:11:39 <pigeons>	they always will
Mar 11 18:11:40 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: why not use google spreadsheets for graphs and orderbook review?
Mar 11 18:11:57 <pigeons>	which is why mp lost in his own hand picked rota
Mar 11 18:11:59 <gesell>	in that scenerio you would script updates (not pull from an api, as this might overrun google apps limits)
Mar 11 18:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons not really true. they always will try to convince the person to return it
Mar 11 18:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	but afaik such claims are rare. usually cost more to sue than they'd get
Mar 11 18:12:18 <pigeons>	really, absoulutely trye. give me one example where its not
Mar 11 18:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	gesell you can go right ahead, or what are you asking ?
Mar 11 18:12:33 <kakobrekla>	i have seen it happen here and the bank gets the money back one way or another
Mar 11 18:12:35 <pigeons>	ive seen plenty where it is true, none where it isnt
Mar 11 18:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you've seen a case where a bank sued the recipient of an error for unjust enrichment ?
Mar 11 18:13:01 <pigeons>	yes
Mar 11 18:13:03 <pigeons>	more than one
Mar 11 18:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	link or docket or anything ?
Mar 11 18:13:13 <dub>	pretty sure its straight up law here
Mar 11 18:13:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01401 BTC [-]
Mar 11 18:13:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01401 BTC [-]
Mar 11 18:13:23 <dub>	bank fucks up, give it back or the police come get you
Mar 11 18:13:23 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: well i would be happy to make some spreadsheets to pull the order books but this would require some sort of mpex api (json or xml or whatever) for that and again, leave you open to ddos. but if you pushed the data onto your own public spreadsheet you would avoid any ddos on your public facing graphs and orderbooks
Mar 11 18:13:25 <pigeons>	dont have my lexisnexis here
Mar 11 18:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	not an expert but iirc it was rare shit.
Mar 11 18:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	gesell you seen the faq ?
Mar 11 18:13:38 <pigeons>	but sure, i'll remember
Mar 11 18:13:47 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: not in  bit. checking again
Mar 11 18:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	specifically, http://mpex.coinbr.com/faq.html#11
Mar 11 18:14:26 <gesell>	oh didnt see the sierra chart feed
Mar 11 18:14:30 <gesell>	and json
Mar 11 18:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	json been there for a while. sierra recent addition
Mar 11 18:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	also kakobrekla has a websocket feed he's been selling people.
Mar 11 18:15:45 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: are those feeds not effected by the ddos?
Mar 11 18:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	nothing's affected other than the website which people somehow get fixated on.
Mar 11 18:18:07 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: it's the face. but is interesting to contemplate what that means and reshaping it.
Mar 11 18:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	let's think together what that means.
Mar 11 18:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	domain gets "confiscated", somehow.
Mar 11 18:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	nobody cares. moving on.
Mar 11 18:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	that's what it means.
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Mar 11 18:20:27 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: well its also strange that the proxy seems to be a mirror. as apposed to it being it's own form of interface.
Mar 11 18:20:52 <pigeons>	it proxies
Mar 11 18:20:54 <FabianB>	well stock trading volume went down, but never stopped; options as usual
Mar 11 18:21:31 <gesell>	if the face effects trades then, well, recovery should be monitored. and hopefully there is recovery
Mar 11 18:22:12 <pigeons>	or, the face can go away
Mar 11 18:22:22 <pigeons>	and people can learn to trade anyway
Mar 11 18:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	gesell say what ? i don't follow
Mar 11 18:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	the proxy mirror part
Mar 11 18:23:40 <smickles>	so the ddoser's name is "the face"?
Mar 11 18:23:45 <smickles>	nice
Mar 11 18:24:13 <deadweasel>	lol. the face
Mar 11 18:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140472.msg1610300#msg1610300 << most likely to be agreed with forum person.
Mar 11 18:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	you'd never guess it.
Mar 11 18:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151880.msg1612122#msg1612122 another one
Mar 11 18:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is going on over there
Mar 11 18:25:15 <smickles>	'... or else nazi and nazi'
Mar 11 18:25:27 <mircea_popescu>	she called him thermos too
Mar 11 18:25:36 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: for lack of a better comparison... say for instance that some brokerage firm was had their own interface to nyse showing trades and tickers. this would "feel" decoupled from the excchange itself so people would not associate the two. if nyse decided to change how they present themselves that brokerage face would not be percieved as, i dont know, a quick crutch to fill the gap. where as when it is mirroring nyse so closely 
Mar 11 18:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	gesell are you a web developer by any chance ?
Mar 11 18:26:28 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: hobby web dev for aesthetics. serious code and hardware hacker for the $
Mar 11 18:26:35 <mircea_popescu>	okay.
Mar 11 18:26:56 <pigeons>	basically, mircea_popescu does not care how it "feels"
Mar 11 18:27:00 <gesell>	hacker meaning reverse engineer (meaning, f;ing serious)
Mar 11 18:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	aha.
Mar 11 18:27:46 <gesell>	pigeons: even if he doesnt care. it is still interesting to consider what the market effects of change of face are, and where the middle ground is, and where there is space to innovate in a intuitive way. or maybe there isnt really
Mar 11 18:27:56 <pigeons>	not interesting
Mar 11 18:28:04 <smickles>	gesell: did you notice that my mpexbot has a direct line into mpex, yet doesn't look like a mirror?
Mar 11 18:28:05 <gesell>	pigeons: if change of face did effect trade volume, that is interesting to explore
Mar 11 18:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons that is exactly the opposite of reality. i very much care how it feels. which is why the proxy doesn't have spurious dongles, but feels just like the real tihng.
Mar 11 18:28:07 <smickles>	;D
Mar 11 18:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	what i don't care about is appearance bullshit. there's a very good reason for that : unlike the web, the retail market for plastic figurines and fake fags,
Mar 11 18:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	i actually have a business.
Mar 11 18:29:34 <gesell>	smickles: yeah mpexbot... so it could be that just as mpex forces people to understand that the odd security model is better (and forces people to learn why and learn what pgp is) maybe it is of value to force them to use a different interface in a similar way. but the cause and effect is not as clear with the Web vs Mpexbot, as it was with the gpg protocol
Mar 11 18:30:04 <mircea_popescu>	for some reason i have a lot of trouble following this guy.
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Mar 11 18:30:22 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: that mpex gui i'm developing is nearly functionally complete
Mar 11 18:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	0.0
Mar 11 18:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	what do they feed you over there, uppers in speedball sauce ?
Mar 11 18:30:40 <pigeons>	it better have minecraft
Mar 11 18:30:42 <FabianB>	gesell: in both cases you need gpg to trade
Mar 11 18:31:05 <smickles>	pigeons: not minecraft, but opengl like was discussed yesterday
Mar 11 18:31:15 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: not sure. i think i just dont explain abstract thoughts well.
Mar 11 18:31:22 <pigeons>	i want bricks of some sort then
Mar 11 18:31:22 <smickles>	i have a screenshot of it
Mar 11 18:31:31 <pigeons>	lego mpex
Mar 11 18:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	totally. opengl.
Mar 11 18:31:50 <pigeons>	zork mpex too
Mar 11 18:31:53 <smickles>	http://imgur.com/fwa71Fj
Mar 11 18:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons lemme quote a person familiar with the matter, for your benefit :
Mar 11 18:32:11 <gesell>	smickles: is that QT based?
Mar 11 18:32:20 <smickles>	nope
Mar 11 18:32:23 <gesell>	gtk?
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Mar 11 18:32:27 <smickles>	nope
Mar 11 18:32:35 <gesell>	tcl/tk??
Mar 11 18:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	"i get the feeling ima wake up one of these days and like there will be a little mpex anthill, and mpex transaction wallpaint and i can order a stat from the magazin alimentar"
Mar 11 18:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's uppers in speedball sauce based.
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Mar 11 18:33:31 <da-art-o-peas>	http://i.imgur.com/JHEHg14.jpg
Mar 11 18:33:32 <pigeons>	hopped up on goofballs
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Mar 11 18:33:49 <gesell>	then i hope the buy button creates a buy event on button down and not button released ;)
Mar 11 18:33:53 <smickles>	gesell: it's a toolkit which uses opengl, i don't know too much about it
Mar 11 18:34:05 <smickles>	i just know how to use it
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Mar 11 18:34:21 <smickles>	and that i should be able to make binaries for win, mac, linux and android with it
Mar 11 18:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	what are you using like allegro ?
Mar 11 18:35:04 <smickles>	kivy
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Mar 11 18:35:25 <smickles>	gesell: aw, i picked button released, is that bad?
Mar 11 18:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	it is yeah.
Mar 11 18:35:57 <gesell>	smickles: yes, they people on upper speedball sauce will have to click for each buy whereas on button down they could just Hooooooold and buy shit loads
Mar 11 18:36:31 <dub>	lol
Mar 11 18:36:38 <smickles>	lol, well, the buy button goes to a detailed asset page with price and quantity inputs
Mar 11 18:36:48 <gesell>	aaaah
Mar 11 18:37:13 <smickles>	yeah, i'd figure you'd want to know the best ask if you planned to buy
Mar 11 18:37:47 <dub>	why?
Mar 11 18:38:02 <dub>	this is mpex, we invest for the future, regardless of price
Mar 11 18:38:06 <pigeons>	http://www.businessinsider.com/intrade-shutting-down-2013-3
Mar 11 18:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	sutmm ?
Mar 11 18:38:13 <smickles>	i have that one drawn up right now. left side full depth (scrollable) right 2/3's has details up at top and input middle, confirmation button at bottom
Mar 11 18:38:24 <gesell>	smickles: sounds good
Mar 11 18:38:35 <gesell>	kivy is interesting. new to me
Mar 11 18:38:36 <dub>	if you care about price you are the wrong kind of investor
Mar 11 18:38:43 <dub>	remember that
Mar 11 18:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	intrade news is old! https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/310988017236049921
Mar 11 18:38:50 <smickles>	also, the thing is proxy aware and checks for updated proxy lists
Mar 11 18:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	smickles almost like a botnet.
Mar 11 18:39:13 <smickles>	shhh :P
Mar 11 18:39:39 <smickles>	that is how botnets work tho, isn't it?
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Mar 11 18:40:38 <smickles>	i think i've lost every bitbet bet i've made
Mar 11 18:40:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19999 BTC [-]
Mar 11 18:40:56 <smickles>	except the ufo ones
Mar 11 18:41:20 <kakobrekla>	i can make you a special 'yes and no is switched' interface
Mar 11 18:41:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 11 18:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you know this may be a workable idea ?
Mar 11 18:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	put a link on main page, "Bad luck lately ?"
Mar 11 18:42:07 <kakobrekla>	ahah
Mar 11 18:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	if person clicks it site is color switched (everything)
Mar 11 18:42:16 <smickles>	lol, what an idea
Mar 11 18:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	and yes/no also switched in menus but not in actual effect.
Mar 11 18:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	so they go for yes but it bets no
Mar 11 18:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	and we see how many people actyually use that.
Mar 11 18:42:56 <kakobrekla>	first get your email working
Mar 11 18:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	dude i'm asking you for the difficult, you're asking me for the impossible.
Mar 11 18:43:20 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 11 18:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	email is too hard. i can get finger working this week
Mar 11 18:43:27 <mircea_popescu>	and maybe gopher
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Mar 11 18:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	maybe i should upgrade the php proxies to also forward mail.
Mar 11 18:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	tux will just die.
Mar 11 18:44:00 <pigeons>	i'm down with finger instead of this twitter stuff
Mar 11 18:44:21 <smickles>	haha, come to mpexbot to check your email !
Mar 11 18:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 11 18:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	hey smickles! implement an $email command
Mar 11 18:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	it just returns "No new emails received"
Mar 11 18:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	to mess with noobs.
Mar 11 18:45:08 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 11 18:45:09 <smickles>	$mail \n <mpexbot> 3 ways to a larger PENIS
Mar 11 18:45:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 11 18:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	it should have a list. if person is not on that list, "You're not cool enough for this service sorry."
Mar 11 18:45:39 <mod6>	need a mutt plugin
Mar 11 18:45:51 <smickles>	$markov
Mar 11 18:45:52 <mpexbot>	and if you can, hire a group to make it happenj
Mar 11 18:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	you can charge like .01 btc for lifetime membership or something
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Mar 11 18:47:12 <mircea_popescu>	and it's spelled PEN1S anyway
Mar 11 18:47:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00999 = 0.0599 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 18:49:18 <dub>	you goddamn hacker how did you get my password
Mar 11 18:49:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19999 BTC [-]
Mar 11 18:49:51 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 11 18:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;slab puq
Mar 11 18:49:56 <gribble>	Error: "slab" is not a valid command.
Mar 11 18:50:17 <kakobrekla>	how do you mean no slab?
Mar 11 18:50:22 <kakobrekla>	nano should fix this
Mar 11 18:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	is of no comprehension his.
Mar 11 18:50:39 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 11 18:50:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.16000, Best ask: 48.18310, Bid-ask spread: 0.02310, Last trade: 48.16000, 24 hour volume: 41803.52824419, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 47.48502
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Mar 11 18:52:10 <dub>	no this is fucking logo http://alerts.gw.gd/
Mar 11 18:52:19 <dub>	now*
Mar 11 18:52:57 <gesell>	its a shame geocities is down. mpex hosted via geocities would just be perfect
Mar 11 18:53:16 <dub>	I swear its synergy throwing away half my keystrokes
Mar 11 18:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	dub ahaha totally all the gimp effects
Mar 11 18:54:26 <smickles>	$email
Mar 11 18:54:27 <mpexbot>	smickles: No new messages received.
Mar 11 18:55:26 <ThickAsThieves>	$email
Mar 11 18:55:27 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: To sign up for this service, contact smickles. Cost will be 0.01 BTC.
Mar 11 18:55:31 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 11 18:55:54 <smickles>	$list SupyMPEx
Mar 11 18:55:55 <mpexbot>	smickles: depth, email, post, proxies, and vwap
Mar 11 18:56:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 11 18:56:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume all email revenue goes to making mpex aesthetic improvements
Mar 11 18:56:28 <smickles>	the list just keeps growing. In two weeks, we'll have something like nano's gribble on our hands
Mar 11 18:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	$email
Mar 11 18:56:47 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: No new messages received.
Mar 11 18:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	omg im so cool
Mar 11 18:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	eat that hat3rs
Mar 11 18:57:07 <mod6>	smickles: nice!
Mar 11 18:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla as you can see, i received no mail.
Mar 11 18:57:38 <kakobrekla>	fu :P
Mar 11 18:57:48 <ThickAsThieves>	check ur spam folder
Mar 11 18:57:55 <kakobrekla>	$spam
Mar 11 18:58:05 <ThickAsThieves>	spam detected
Mar 11 18:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	Intel X25-E Extreme SSDSA2SH064G1GC
Mar 11 18:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	go me.
Mar 11 18:59:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00401 BTC [-]
Mar 11 18:59:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 50 @ 0.004 = 0.2 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 19:03:22 <FabianB>	;;ticker
Mar 11 19:03:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.19322, Best ask: 48.19341, Bid-ask spread: 0.00019, Last trade: 48.19322, 24 hour volume: 41895.49680393, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 47.48907
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Mar 11 19:04:28 <FabianB>	thank you maximian, if that was you
Mar 11 19:04:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19999 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 19:09:52 <gesell>	what tha, btc24 now second largest exchange? that was fast
Mar 11 19:10:23 <mircea_popescu>	whos btc24 even ?
Mar 11 19:10:27 <gesell>	beh, they got their own bots on the exchnage <shakes fist> not that it matters
Mar 11 19:10:34 <gesell>	bitcoin-24.com http://bitdata.com/articles/102
Mar 11 19:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	i see bitstamp at 150k
Mar 11 19:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	or you meant eur ?
Mar 11 19:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	ya ok
Mar 11 19:11:53 <gesell>	not sure how bitdata compiled that chart. it isnt eur specific
Mar 11 19:12:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 192 @ 0.19228973 = 36.9196 BTC [+]
Mar 11 19:12:20 <gesell>	puts bitstamp and btc24 at %2 behind mtgox both
Mar 11 19:12:29 <gesell>	sorry #2 not %2
Mar 11 19:13:31 <gesell>	i swear to god they have their own bots running on the exchange. not sure what the objective is but see some bots responding with <200ms timing
Mar 11 19:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	marketmaking neh ?
Mar 11 19:14:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 11 19:14:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.10003, Best ask: 48.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08997, Last trade: 48.19000, 24 hour volume: 41520.07762161, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 47.51308
Mar 11 19:14:38 <gesell>	perhaps. just mapped their bots edges and it tends to push it's own reserve volume over other bids that it thinks are too low
Mar 11 19:15:01 <gesell>	up to a certain limit, perhaps set based on numbers of averages on other exchnages
Mar 11 19:15:08 <gesell>	maybe its an arbitrage protection bot, or not sure
Mar 11 19:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	this is probably a recipe for disaster
Mar 11 19:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	have everyone entering fake trades based on the other people's fake trades averages
Mar 11 19:15:27 <kakobrekla>	bitstamp is fucked and ran by idiots
Mar 11 19:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	in fact it's probably the main source of volatility atm
Mar 11 19:16:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.19999 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 11 19:16:43 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: what do you mean by fake trades? I think on btc24, unlike mtgox, if you buy your fiat gets locked and you cant make another order. same on sell. of course their own local bots could fake, but i could not prove this. and actually they wouldnt have to fake, if all they really want to do is some moderate protection from arbitrage
Mar 11 19:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	gesell if the exchange is running it's own bot,
Mar 11 19:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	and it is feeding it from the trades on other exchanges
Mar 11 19:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	except everyone does this
Mar 11 19:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	the net result is a positive feedback loop of great danger
Mar 11 19:18:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Mar 11 19:18:55 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: i cant wrap my head around how that would all play out. just assume before running any bot one would make comfortable limits, and some way to guage when things are getting out of control so you know when to turn off
Mar 11 19:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 11 19:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	i hear that, i'm thinking bitcoinica.
Mar 11 19:21:02 <gesell>	other than being hacked dont remember bitcoinica gaming the market
Mar 11 19:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	did you read their leaked emails ?
Mar 11 19:21:40 <benkay>	where find ^^?
Mar 11 19:22:18 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: havent no
Mar 11 19:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/Ya6iN8RT
Mar 11 19:24:12 <benkay>	tempted to pause timer and read
Mar 11 19:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	what timer is that
Mar 11 19:24:49 <benkay>	billing.
Mar 11 19:26:25 <benkay>	but also would like to close out workblock, make commits, email people "yay" and go play with dog and lady
Mar 11 19:26:26 <benkay>	so
Mar 11 19:26:40 <benkay>	balancing priorities.
Mar 11 19:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	such balance is apparent in the sorting of the [dog ; lady] set.
Mar 11 19:27:38 <benkay>	oh you
Mar 11 19:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 11 19:28:00 <benkay>	maybe i alpha sort everything on the outfeed, huh?
Mar 11 19:28:31 <benkay>	in reality, dog needs tiring first
Mar 11 19:28:32 <benkay>	otherwise
Mar 11 19:28:48 <benkay>	INAPPROPRIATE CUDDLES
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Mar 11 19:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 11 19:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	PSA : starting yest MPEx is adding 0.001 fee to all txs, whether needed or not (it's almost never actually needed). Support teh network!
Mar 11 19:33:57 <benkay>	wat.
Mar 11 19:34:26 <benkay>	oic.
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Mar 11 19:56:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.00557 = 0.1671 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 19:59:45 <mircea_popescu>	reading a digest of the bitcoin-dev chan, i am struck by how incredibly pompous these people are.
Mar 11 19:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	seriously know. who told them they know shit and when exactly ?!
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Mar 11 20:00:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00524 = 0.1048 BTC [+]
Mar 11 20:04:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01987 BTC [+]
Mar 11 20:05:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.01988 = 0.2187 BTC [+]
Mar 11 20:06:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1796 = 0.3592 BTC [-]
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Mar 11 20:26:23 <smickles>	mircea_popescu:
Mar 11 20:26:27 <smickles>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 11 20:26:29 <mpexbot>	smickles: Bids: ['5 @ 73163', '5539 @ 73162', '4961 @ 72543', '10000 @ 71102', '10000 @ 70102']
Mar 11 20:26:30 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['502 @ 76717', '12095 @ 76718', '1399 @ 77988', '54540 @ 77999', '500000 @ 78000']
Mar 11 20:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	that;'s not bad actually
Mar 11 20:28:46 <mircea_popescu>	here's a tricky thing :
Mar 11 20:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	would it be possible for the bot to keep a count of the chat lines during past 5 minutes and send that response by pm if value > 50 ?
Mar 11 20:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	and also send it by pm if it's been sent to the main chat during the past 1 hr
Mar 11 20:30:02 <kakobrekla>	basically just send it to pm.
Mar 11 20:30:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 11 20:30:44 <mircea_popescu>	not EXACTLY
Mar 11 20:30:44 <smickles>	it would be easist to just send it to pm
Mar 11 20:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	well i guess it would, yeah.
Mar 11 20:30:57 <mircea_popescu>	up to you
Mar 11 20:31:07 <smickles>	do you think it's spammy as is?
Mar 11 20:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	as is no
Mar 11 20:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	but it has the potential to become.
Mar 11 20:31:20 <kakobrekla>	also side note, pm is short for 'picku mater' which roughty translates for 'mothers cunt'
Mar 11 20:31:26 <kakobrekla>	to*
Mar 11 20:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	pizda ma-tii.
Mar 11 20:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	eastern europe is firmly decided on pm = yo momma's.
Mar 11 20:32:03 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 11 20:32:14 <smickles>	well, kakobrekla if you think people are using it too often, let me know and I will switch it to pm response
Mar 11 20:32:37 <kakobrekla>	aha
Mar 11 20:32:43 <kakobrekla>	lets see what happens then
Mar 11 20:34:22 *	smickles imagines kakobrekla adding 'use $depth s.mpoe 5 times an hour or be banned!' to the topic
Mar 11 20:34:56 <kakobrekla>	wait so one must use it 5 times an hour ?
Mar 11 20:35:17 <mircea_popescu>	lol totally.
Mar 11 20:35:25 <kakobrekla>	mkay better get started
Mar 11 20:35:26 <smickles>	yup, also, i added email service to mpexbot
Mar 11 20:35:30 <kakobrekla>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 11 20:35:30 <kakobrekla>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 11 20:35:30 <kakobrekla>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 11 20:35:30 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Bids: ['5 @ 73163', '5539 @ 73162', '4961 @ 72543', '10000 @ 71102', '10000 @ 70102']
Mar 11 20:35:31 <kakobrekla>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 11 20:35:31 <kakobrekla>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 11 20:35:32 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Asks: ['502 @ 76717', '12095 @ 76718', '1399 @ 77988', '54540 @ 77999', '500000 @ 78000']
Mar 11 20:35:33 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Bids: ['5 @ 73163', '5539 @ 73162', '4961 @ 72543', '10000 @ 71102', '10000 @ 70102']
Mar 11 20:35:34 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Asks: ['502 @ 76717', '12095 @ 76718', '1399 @ 77988', '54540 @ 77999', '500000 @ 78000']
Mar 11 20:35:35 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Bids: ['5 @ 73163', '5539 @ 73162', '4961 @ 72543', '10000 @ 71102', '10000 @ 70102']
Mar 11 20:35:36 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Asks: ['502 @ 76717', '12095 @ 76718', '1399 @ 77988', '54540 @ 77999', '500000 @ 78000']
Mar 11 20:35:37 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Bids: ['5 @ 73163', '5539 @ 73162', '4961 @ 72543', '10000 @ 71102', '10000 @ 70102']
Mar 11 20:35:38 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Asks: ['502 @ 76717', '12095 @ 76718', '1399 @ 77988', '54540 @ 77999', '500000 @ 78000']
Mar 11 20:35:39 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Bids: ['5 @ 73163', '5539 @ 73162', '4961 @ 72543', '10000 @ 71102', '10000 @ 70102']
Mar 11 20:35:41 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Asks: ['502 @ 76717', '12095 @ 76718', '1399 @ 77988', '54540 @ 77999', '500000 @ 78000']
Mar 11 20:35:44 <smickles>	T_T
Mar 11 20:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	i still think my idea was the most elegant
Mar 11 20:35:45 <kakobrekla>	no spam.
Mar 11 20:36:09 <dub>	;;echo $depth s.mpoe
Mar 11 20:36:09 <gribble>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 11 20:36:10 <mpexbot>	gribble: Bids: ['5 @ 73163', '5539 @ 73162', '4961 @ 72543', '10000 @ 71102', '10000 @ 70102']
Mar 11 20:36:11 <mpexbot>	gribble: Asks: ['502 @ 76717', '12095 @ 76718', '1399 @ 77988', '54540 @ 77999', '500000 @ 78000']
Mar 11 20:36:23 <smickles>	i might need to fiddle with the 'abuse' configs
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Mar 11 20:36:43 <kakobrekla>	o looky.
Mar 11 20:36:45 <smickles>	$depth s.dice
Mar 11 20:36:46 <mpexbot>	smickles: Bids: ['100 @ 530012', '81 @ 530011', '800 @ 530000', '500 @ 520000', '10 @ 520000']
Mar 11 20:36:47 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['9299 @ 569996', '1000 @ 569997', '2000 @ 570000', '148 @ 599990', '48346 @ 600000']
Mar 11 20:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 11 20:37:56 <mircea_popescu>	evoorhees good thinking on upping the you lost returns.
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Mar 11 20:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151593.msg1609610#msg1609610
Mar 11 20:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	totally qualified to give advice.
Mar 11 20:42:56 <Troic>	fork drama next
Mar 11 20:43:20 <pigeons>	yeah be careful with the big bucks till the fork is resolved
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Mar 11 20:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	how long is it yet ?
Mar 11 20:46:29 <pigeons>	looks like about 5 blocks
Mar 11 20:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	fleshwound
Mar 11 20:47:17 <dub>	yuss
Mar 11 20:47:22 <dub>	inb4 $2
Mar 11 20:47:38 <smickles>	dub: i called 2 hours ago
Mar 11 20:47:42 <pigeons>	satoshi dice pausing till resolved
Mar 11 20:47:58 <smickles>	er, i called $2, hours ago
Mar 11 20:48:10 <smickles>	curse you ambiguity
Mar 11 20:48:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 8 @ 0.1796 = 1.4368 BTC [-]
Mar 11 20:48:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 11 20:48:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.75902, Best ask: 47.83005, Bid-ask spread: 0.07103, Last trade: 47.83005, 24 hour volume: 42125.00556719, 24 hour low: 45.54000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 47.65497
Mar 11 20:51:18 <dub>	now would be a great time to dos guild
Mar 11 20:51:30 <dub>	any kids watching? :)
Mar 11 20:52:20 <mircea_popescu>	is this fork in any way related to the two asic miners ?
Mar 11 20:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	ie, is one avalon sponsored and the other am sponsored ?
Mar 11 20:52:48 <BitHub>	is this a scam?
Mar 11 20:53:08 <dub>	no its a block size issue affecting BDB in 0.7
Mar 11 20:53:12 <dub>	according to -dev
Mar 11 20:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	so basically they fucvked up the upgrade.
Mar 11 20:53:37 <dub>	0.8 is unaffected so 0.7 and 0.8 miners have forked
Mar 11 20:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	as in, "it's a blocksize issue we've introduced with 0.8"
Mar 11 20:53:53 <dub>	fix is to move majority hashing back to 0.7
Mar 11 20:54:00 <jcpham>	anyone want to help me with a e-poll
Mar 11 20:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	these pompous assholes.
Mar 11 20:54:04 <dub>	so if guild went down now it would be teh bitpocalypse
Mar 11 20:54:05 <jcpham>	it has real world results
Mar 11 20:54:26 <dub>	mircea_popescu: no
Mar 11 20:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	oh ?
Mar 11 20:54:31 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 11 20:54:31 <gribble>	1 BTC = 47.70000 U.S. dollars = 36.6923077 Euros
Mar 11 20:54:35 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu switch dns? :p
Mar 11 20:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol.
Mar 11 20:54:44 <dub>	mircea_popescu: its a previously unheard of issue with BDB, the block size triggered it
Mar 11 20:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	dub SO THEY FUCKED UP THE UPGRADE.
Mar 11 20:55:04 <mircea_popescu>	jesus passing the buck is like a tradition in bitcoin-devtalk
Mar 11 20:55:11 <dub>	mircea_popescu: well no, dice fucked up the blockchain
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Mar 11 20:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	yaya
Mar 11 20:55:22 <dub>	by creating blocks too big for 0.7
Mar 11 20:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	"let's hide the fact that we suck at coding by falsely accusing someone else of doing things such as trying to externalise their costs on others"\
Mar 11 20:55:40 <dub>	we only know about it because half the network is on 0.8
Mar 11 20:55:42 <mircea_popescu>	"which happens to be exactly what we're doing"
Mar 11 20:55:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.774998 = 1.55 BTC [-]
Mar 11 20:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	tell them i expect an apology for this idiocy.
Mar 11 20:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	fuckwits need to learn some humility presto.
Mar 11 20:56:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Mar 11 20:56:26 <ThickAsThieves>	seems like they could really fuck things up from this point still
Mar 11 20:56:34 <jcpham>	http://micropoll.com/t/KE9JQZQhrI vote for "good love"
Mar 11 20:56:40 <jcpham>	top three bands get to play
Mar 11 20:56:47 <jcpham>	trying to make sure my frind's band plays
Mar 11 20:56:52 <jcpham>	its a big venue for him
Mar 11 20:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	mkay.
Mar 11 20:56:56 <dub>	fixing the network to make dice fit is the trigger
Mar 11 20:56:59 <jcpham>	do it or die
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Mar 11 20:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	dub would you stop already ?
Mar 11 20:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	their mommies made them do it ?
Mar 11 20:57:33 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham done. they owe me a bra now.
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Mar 11 20:57:52 <jcpham>	k
Mar 11 20:58:10 <dub>	mircea_popescu: big blocks are the problem here
Mar 11 20:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	dub no.
Mar 11 20:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	they did not know what their own code did.
Mar 11 20:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	that is the problem here.
Mar 11 20:58:34 <mircea_popescu>	they pushed an unsafe upgrade, without a clue.
Mar 11 20:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	that is the problem.
Mar 11 20:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	they only discovered it once it blew up.
Mar 11 20:58:45 <mircea_popescu>	that is the problem.
Mar 11 20:58:45 <dub>	well, no
Mar 11 20:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	how no ?
Mar 11 20:58:52 <dub>	but I can see you are decided
Mar 11 20:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	i'm askin.
Mar 11 20:59:03 <dub>	because the problem is increasing teh blocksize not 0.8
Mar 11 20:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 11 20:59:11 <mircea_popescu>	dude.
Mar 11 20:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	how is the problem "increasing the blocksizer"
Mar 11 20:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	this is the same coolaid of saying "sd is hte problem"
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Mar 11 20:59:29 <dub>	because 0.7 nodes can't handle them
Mar 11 20:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	no dood. the problem is bad code, not the real world constraints that expose it sucks.
Mar 11 20:59:36 <mircea_popescu>	WHY NOT
Mar 11 21:00:07 <dub>	because the database sucks
Mar 11 21:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	orly
Mar 11 21:00:14 <mircea_popescu>	it;'s the db now right ?
Mar 11 21:00:22 <dub>	no
Mar 11 21:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	why not jesus ? jesus sucks so devs can't code.
Mar 11 21:00:37 <pigeons>	because the bug in BDB wasn't encountered before because the number of transactions in a block that trigger it wasnt valid before
Mar 11 21:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Mar 11 21:00:46 <dub>	<evoorhees> Okay SatoshiDice is on pause now. Receiving bets but not processing anything.
Mar 11 21:00:50 <dub>	fyi
Mar 11 21:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	so what, we write bugs and that's ok if nobody forces our nose in it "?
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Mar 11 21:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	cause we're too busy acting the knowful shitheads on -dev ?
Mar 11 21:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	fuck that.
Mar 11 21:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	dub so ?
Mar 11 21:01:37 <dub>	I think its too early to know if its bdb itself or bitcoins implementation
Mar 11 21:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	how about bitcoin implementing something that failed is on the devs
Mar 11 21:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	period.
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Mar 11 21:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's not tested enough to release yet, do not release it.
Mar 11 21:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	what is this, 1955, we're discovering software engineering ?
Mar 11 21:02:35 <BitHub>	heh
Mar 11 21:03:10 <dub>	im just annoyed that we're not at $2 yet
Mar 11 21:03:20 <dub>	come on guys, its panic time if ever there was
Mar 11 21:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	i'm sick and tired of the young cocks circlejerk attitude.
Mar 11 21:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	a. they know shit ; b. they don't even know a. wtf.
Mar 11 21:05:22 <jcpham>	let's see how this plays out
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Mar 11 21:07:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.56 = 2.8 BTC [+]
Mar 11 21:12:25 <dub>	speakign of circlejerk
Mar 11 21:12:46 <dub>	fucking assholes now want to talk about my offer after a week of bullshit
Mar 11 21:13:10 <ThickAsThieves>	sooo what happens if i do this
Mar 11 21:13:12 <dub>	and I'm now ready to buy a different house
Mar 11 21:13:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 11 21:13:17 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225435 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 356 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
Mar 11 21:13:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 11 21:13:44 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 5496120.07656 based on data for last three days
Mar 11 21:14:27 <dub>	0 diff would be neat
Mar 11 21:15:33 <ThickAsThieves>	so if they are forked, then anyone mining the dropped fork is fukt
Mar 11 21:15:35 <ThickAsThieves>	right?
Mar 11 21:15:40 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 11 21:15:46 <mircea_popescu>	also an issue of doublespends.
Mar 11 21:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	(incoming)
Mar 11 21:15:58 <ThickAsThieves>	and anyone helping to push the old fork gets super low diff
Mar 11 21:16:00 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Mar 11 21:16:08 <mircea_popescu>	nah both ends are same diff
Mar 11 21:16:27 <ThickAsThieves>	oh cuz it wont change til the specific block
Mar 11 21:18:09 <mircea_popescu>	if one forks gets to actually the diff block
Mar 11 21:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	then they will have divergent difficulty
Mar 11 21:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	luckily there's still a ways to go
Mar 11 21:19:09 <dub>	gox better not stop this crash
Mar 11 21:19:25 <ThickAsThieves>	you know they will
Mar 11 21:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 11 21:19:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.50110, Best ask: 45.60134, Bid-ask spread: 0.10024, Last trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 55914.86095949, 24 hour low: 45.00000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 47.30466
Mar 11 21:19:54 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 11 21:20:27 <ThickAsThieves>	gox didnt halt trading?
Mar 11 21:21:03 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine they only halted payouts
Mar 11 21:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	trading can in principle continuewith what they have deposited in btc and freely on usd.
Mar 11 21:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	payins i mean. people paying them.
Mar 11 21:23:05 <dub>	whois defunctzombie?
Mar 11 21:23:14 <dub>	he'so offering to halt trading if gox does
Mar 11 21:23:18 <pigeons>	and halted processing deposits
Mar 11 21:23:29 <Chaang-Noi>	crash?
Mar 11 21:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi more like momentary panic.
Mar 11 21:24:03 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 11 21:24:12 <dub>	blockchain is firked
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Mar 11 21:24:15 <Chaang-Noi>	litecoin is moving on up, crazy
Mar 11 21:24:19 <dub>	and forked
Mar 11 21:24:21 <dub>	and fucked
Mar 11 21:24:40 <Chaang-Noi>	what is the news with gox, just woke up?
Mar 11 21:24:53 <Ukto>	update regarding effects of blockchain issues on bitfunder. https://bitfunder.com/market
Mar 11 21:24:59 <dub>	bitcoin forked into 0.7 and 0.8 chains
Mar 11 21:25:11 <Ukto>	pools were todl to increase blocksize
Mar 11 21:25:12 <dub>	pools are rolling back to 0.7 to fix
Mar 11 21:25:15 <Ukto>	someo made them too big
Mar 11 21:25:18 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.0
Mar 11 21:25:19 <Chaang-Noi>	it forked?   oh fuuuuck
Mar 11 21:25:23 <Ukto>	and olrder clients shat themselves
Mar 11 21:25:31 <Ukto>	end of story.
Mar 11 21:25:35 <Ukto>	nothing malicious
Mar 11 21:25:48 <Chaang-Noi>	so coins in our new clients are they gone?
Mar 11 21:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	no, just stupid.
Mar 11 21:25:55 <mircea_popescu>	nah chang
Mar 11 21:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	you just shouldn't credit payments for a bit.
Mar 11 21:26:03 <Ukto>	Chaang-Noi: that depends on what happens after blockchain merger
Mar 11 21:26:09 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu is correct
Mar 11 21:26:11 <Ukto>	you SHOULD be fine
Mar 11 21:26:16 <Chaang-Noi>	oh fuck me
Mar 11 21:26:16 <Ukto>	but put things on hold
Mar 11 21:26:27 <pigeons>	everyone go take a walk and get some food and come  bac in a few hours
Mar 11 21:26:40 <Chaang-Noi>	glad i has 150,000 as a back up crypto currancy
Mar 11 21:26:49 <Chaang-Noi>	LTC
Mar 11 21:26:57 <Ukto>	you have 150k ?
Mar 11 21:26:57 <Ukto>	x.x
Mar 11 21:27:01 <mod6>	heh you sold 50k 'eh
Mar 11 21:27:05 <dub>	mircea_popescu: loving the WTC ref
Mar 11 21:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub heh.
Mar 11 21:27:22 <pigeons>	yeah ltc could never get this bug because that many transactions in litecoin would never propogate quickly enough to get included in a block
Mar 11 21:27:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i have not made a btc payment for about 12 hours, will this make me saffer even if i use the new client?
Mar 11 21:27:43 <pigeons>	Chaang-Noi: just wait
Mar 11 21:28:09 <Chaang-Noi>	is there a link with more info on the forum or something?
Mar 11 21:28:20 <pigeons>	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=30587843
Mar 11 21:28:25 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks
Mar 11 21:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi your outgoing payments are safe
Mar 11 21:28:50 <davos>	meh - its only down 4, less than 10%
Mar 11 21:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	crediting incomingpayments may be unsafe, if they are doublespent across the forks
Mar 11 21:28:53 <davos>	not a crash
Mar 11 21:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	and then they merge into one that doesn't include you being paid.
Mar 11 21:29:03 <davos>	and wrong chat. =D
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Mar 11 21:33:49 <Chaang-Noi>	mp i sold 50k ltc yesterday for btc, odds on this being accepted?
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Mar 11 21:33:56 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 11 21:33:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.12000, Best ask: 44.50000, Bid-ask spread: 1.38000, Last trade: 43.12000, 24 hour volume: 62664.75566320, 24 hour low: 43.12000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 46.92695
Mar 11 21:34:06 <Bowjob>	Meow
Mar 11 21:34:11 <Bowjob>	All right, what the fuck is going on
Mar 11 21:34:26 <smickles>	SELL SELL SELL !!!
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Mar 11 21:36:18 <kakobrekla>	hm 1k sold and price went down 3$
Mar 11 21:36:26 <Bowjob>	This is a huge blow to bitcoin. WTF I thought its supposed to be secure
Mar 11 21:36:29 <the-bucket-shop>	 my guess miner hardware related.  total wild guess
Mar 11 21:37:01 <ThickAsThieves>	why do they even need to change the code
Mar 11 21:37:02 <BitHub>	bitcoin been failing a bit lately
Mar 11 21:37:17 <BitHub>	alot of flaws being exposed
Mar 11 21:37:21 <dub>	this is glorious
Mar 11 21:37:23 <smickles>	BitHub: http://bit.ly/wAIBGJ
Mar 11 21:37:38 <BitHub>	?
Mar 11 21:37:45 <Ukto>	btw
Mar 11 21:37:50 <Ukto>	this will rpolyl drive ltc prices up
Mar 11 21:37:50 <Ukto>	;)
Mar 11 21:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub they've been doing this shit since day one
Mar 11 21:37:57 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 11 21:38:02 <mircea_popescu>	wallet was plaintext for like 2 years
Mar 11 21:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	it's just that now btc is worth half a bn dollars
Mar 11 21:38:10 <Ukto>	almost done with my mini ltc project
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Mar 11 21:38:18 <BitHub>	mircea do you think the bitcoin foundation will pay out a compensation? lul
Mar 11 21:38:31 <smickles>	reparations!
Mar 11 21:38:39 <BitHub>	damn straight
Mar 11 21:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub i'd be more than happy if the usual pompous idiots came out with an apology.
Mar 11 21:38:51 <Chaang-Noi>	Ukto tell me more, i heart ltc
Mar 11 21:39:04 <BitHub>	mircea who's fault is it?
Mar 11 21:39:04 <dub>	mircea_popescu: you know the answer right
Mar 11 21:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	dub yes.
Mar 11 21:39:16 <dub>	mircea_popescu: because 'not ready for primetime'
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Mar 11 21:39:24 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub i'm not going to go into that level of detail.
Mar 11 21:39:37 <dub>	mircea_popescu: its obvious they don't want adoption
Mar 11 21:39:48 <Bowjob>	wow.. what will the institutional investors think
Mar 11 21:39:50 <mircea_popescu>	dub yes, they want it forever this niche toy where they matter.
Mar 11 21:40:00 <dub>	mircea_popescu: at least for the next 100 years
Mar 11 21:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	when i told them they'll be pushed aside coupla months ago i guess they groked it
Mar 11 21:40:04 <BitHub>	all good, but yeah, makes me think they could just do this sort of stuff on purpose just to manipulate the price
Mar 11 21:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub they're for the most part not intelligent enough to understand the point or value of money.
Mar 11 21:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	they just want dorks admiring them.
Mar 11 21:40:56 <BitHub>	to be honest i have noticed the lack of like really really god like programmers
Mar 11 21:41:46 <dub>	oh this is gettgin good
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Mar 11 21:41:56 <kakobrekla>	what is getting good
Mar 11 21:41:59 <kakobrekla>	where is the url
Mar 11 21:42:00 <dub>	you cant downgrade to 0.7
Mar 11 21:42:01 <kakobrekla>	feed us
Mar 11 21:42:04 <pizzaman1337>	or getting bad
Mar 11 21:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.0
Mar 11 21:42:07 <dub>	without prev blkindex
Mar 11 21:42:10 <Bowjob>	satoshi, save us
Mar 11 21:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	dub obviously ?
Mar 11 21:42:21 <BitHub>	yeah where is Lord Satoshi?
Mar 11 21:42:22 <kakobrekla>	mistebigg again
Mar 11 21:42:28 <kakobrekla>	someone stab him in teh face
Mar 11 21:42:28 <BitHub>	he needs to come in and fix these n00bs mistake
Mar 11 21:42:31 <mircea_popescu>	the only way is basically foer the people who upgraded to downtime
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Mar 11 21:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	let the smarter folks merge it
Mar 11 21:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	then pay for a blk
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Mar 11 21:42:44 <dub>	and no reindex in 0.7 so you have to download and validate the chain
Mar 11 21:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck did you think tho ?
Mar 11 21:42:53 <dub>	which workd REALLY WELL
Mar 11 21:43:01 <BitHub>	lul @ In re Bitcoin Devs are idiots
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Mar 11 21:43:13 <dub>	BitHub: they kinda are
Mar 11 21:43:17 <smickles>	i've got an uptodate .7 chain for s2cm funds
Mar 11 21:43:21 <BitHub>	ima have to read this :)
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Mar 11 21:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	smickles see if anyone wants to pay you 50 btc for it
Mar 11 21:44:56 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 11 21:44:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.00000, Best ask: 45.10989, Bid-ask spread: 0.10989, Last trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 66465.70498496, 24 hour low: 43.11000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 46.77472
Mar 11 21:44:59 <Bowjob>	hey
Mar 11 21:45:00 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 11 21:45:01 <Bowjob>	45
Mar 11 21:45:10 <smickles>	;;sell 1 "0.7 blockchain" @ 50 btc
Mar 11 21:45:11 <gribble>	Order id 13963 created.
Mar 11 21:45:15 <gesell>	Bowjob: see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152030
Mar 11 21:45:18 <Bowjob>	what bullshit is this
Mar 11 21:45:18 <Bowjob>	this actually scares me.. that bitcoin can be compromised like this
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Mar 11 21:45:25 <mod6>	there you go smickles
Mar 11 21:45:29 <Bowjob>	I thought we're supposed to be unhackable and shit
Mar 11 21:45:36 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 11 21:45:37 <BitHub>	yeah bowjob
Mar 11 21:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Mar 11 21:45:42 <BitHub>	its getting scammy hey
Mar 11 21:45:49 <BitHub>	the pyramid is being exposed
Mar 11 21:45:49 <kakobrekla>	btc is fragile as a cracked egg
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Mar 11 21:45:59 <Bowjob>	Everyone move to lite coin!
Mar 11 21:46:06 <mod6>	i've got a chain that was last updated dec 29th...
Mar 11 21:46:07 <kakobrekla>	i mean bitcoind
Mar 11 21:46:34 <BitHub>	just email your wallet.dat to the bitcoin foundation tell them they've won and then hang yourself
Mar 11 21:47:10 <mod6>	heheh
Mar 11 21:47:12 <Bowjob>	Umm I'm using electrum does it run ot 0.08
Mar 11 21:47:13 <Bowjob>	..
Mar 11 21:47:16 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 11 21:47:32 <evoorhees>	Bowjob don't be a fool. If you actually saw the devs react to this and remedy it, you'd be very impressed
Mar 11 21:47:44 <evoorhees>	people should expect bugs
Mar 11 21:47:58 <evoorhees>	it's how resilient btc is in the face of them that matters
Mar 11 21:48:29 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob the design is very strong.
Mar 11 21:48:34 <mircea_popescu>	the implementation is very poor.
Mar 11 21:48:49 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: have you considered hiring people to work on it?
Mar 11 21:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 suppose bitcoin was written by mpex devs.
Mar 11 21:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	would you use it ?
Mar 11 21:49:09 <pizzaman1337>	if everyone else did
Mar 11 21:49:11 <dub>	bitcoin is so resilient it only took one satoshidice to break it
Mar 11 21:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	that's no way to go about things.
Mar 11 21:49:26 <Bowjob>	btc-e trollbox is celebrating
Mar 11 21:49:28 <pizzaman1337>	so what's the best solution?
Mar 11 21:49:33 <mircea_popescu>	there's a lot of intrinsic strength in the open and independent dev model.
Mar 11 21:49:41 <BitHub>	hand the code over to bill gates
Mar 11 21:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	the problem is that much like anything else of the kind, it depends on keeping politics low.
Mar 11 21:49:51 <mircea_popescu>	wikipedia for instance is similar, and failed for similar reasons.
Mar 11 21:49:54 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: shorting possitions on mpex?
Mar 11 21:49:59 <BitHub>	politics, emotions, egos
Mar 11 21:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	gesell not so far.
Mar 11 21:50:06 <gesell>	ack
Mar 11 21:50:10 <vampireb>	well not a bitcoin issue, the old db was a problem
Mar 11 21:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	go ahead
Mar 11 21:50:17 <gesell>	no, just curious
Mar 11 21:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb don't you start. read up a little eh.
Mar 11 21:50:44 <smickles>	gesell: you want to short s.mpoe?
Mar 11 21:50:45 <BitHub>	why doesn't the bitcoin foundation use all that money to actually hire proper programmers
Mar 11 21:50:49 <BitHub>	with resumes and stuff
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Mar 11 21:50:53 <vampireb>	hmm? start what? i read pleter's explanation, what isnt clear?
Mar 11 21:51:04 <Bowjob>	are asics safe and compatible after this?
Mar 11 21:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb read up the context in the channel you're talking.
Mar 11 21:51:11 <BitHub>	isn't that the foundation job? or not really?
Mar 11 21:51:17 <gesell>	will this spill over into the discussion of soft limits and sdice foo?
Mar 11 21:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob doesn't have much to do with asics this
Mar 11 21:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub well... i have no idea.
Mar 11 21:51:30 <Bowjob>	k thats all i care about
Mar 11 21:51:30 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 11 21:51:34 <mircea_popescu>	gesell prolly.
Mar 11 21:51:36 <benkay>	lol@ bithub resumes
Mar 11 21:51:38 <dub>	gesell: this will spill over into all manner of discussion
Mar 11 21:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	this will probably be the foundation of all further discussions
Mar 11 21:51:57 <mircea_popescu>	dja see what i did there ?
Mar 11 21:52:00 <smickles>	well, if anyone want's to short s.mpoe, i have a fair amout of shares available
Mar 11 21:52:06 <BitHub>	what is the point of the foundation
Mar 11 21:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i think op was discussing shorting btc
Mar 11 21:52:18 <smickles>	oh
Mar 11 21:52:20 <dub>	BitHub: they supply the biscuit
Mar 11 21:52:20 <smickles>	poo
Mar 11 21:52:27 <vampireb>	i dont have the context, but ok
Mar 11 21:52:36 <smickles>	buy puts :P
Mar 11 21:52:38 <benkay>	dub: biscuit?
Mar 11 21:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb mkay. who put the db in there ?
Mar 11 21:52:47 <dub>	the one in the middle
Mar 11 21:53:01 <vampireb>	who? i dont know, satoshi?
Mar 11 21:53:13 <vampireb>	bdb has issues, not 0.8
Mar 11 21:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 11 21:53:18 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 21:53:19 <gribble>	38.016469 seconds
Mar 11 21:53:27 <mircea_popescu>	you make an upgrade that fucks up the network, it's not the db, it's not satoshi, it;s you.
Mar 11 21:53:28 <dub>	;;ticker
Mar 11 21:53:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.01000, Best ask: 45.90277, Bid-ask spread: 0.89277, Last trade: 46.50000, 24 hour volume: 70342.96544144, 24 hour low: 43.11000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 46.71424
Mar 11 21:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	that's how things work.
Mar 11 21:53:36 <benkay>	hurr.
Mar 11 21:53:51 <kakobrekla>	again
Mar 11 21:53:53 <kakobrekla>	untradable
Mar 11 21:53:53 <benkay>	did testnet testing not catch this due to atomic transaction size blah blah?
Mar 11 21:53:56 <kakobrekla>	38 seconds
Mar 11 21:54:00 <kakobrekla>	and no ddos afaik
Mar 11 21:54:01 <dub>	its only 38 man
Mar 11 21:54:04 <kakobrekla>	fuckin lame
Mar 11 21:54:06 <vampireb>	well guess what, that's why when I last time I met gavin he was looking to hire QA
Mar 11 21:54:07 <kakobrekla>	tards.
Mar 11 21:54:09 <dub>	it was over 2000 last night
Mar 11 21:54:15 <dub>	with no volume at all
Mar 11 21:54:23 <kakobrekla>	over 9k really pisses me.
Mar 11 21:54:48 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: gotta fix it :)
Mar 11 21:54:51 <dub>	I've only seen it >9000 once
Mar 11 21:55:04 <kakobrekla>	myea.
Mar 11 21:55:10 <dub>	but today would be a good candidate
Mar 11 21:55:18 <dub>	if the 20k failsafe is still there
Mar 11 21:55:41 <smickles>	"an easy way to do it is to go to home depot with 5 usd, buy stuff to make it happenj"
Mar 11 21:56:30 <smickles>	;;proxies
Mar 11 21:56:30 <gribble>	Error: "proxies" is not a valid command.
Mar 11 21:56:31 <gesell>	dub: 20k failsafe means what?
Mar 11 21:56:35 <smickles>	$proxies
Mar 11 21:56:36 <mpexbot>	smickles: ["http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 11 21:56:49 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 11 21:56:50 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00530001 / 0.00552804 / 0.0059998 (11830 shares, 65.40 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00514724 / 0.006 (228107 shares, 1,174.12 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00614247 / 0.0069 (2518785 shares, 15,471.58 BTC)
Mar 11 21:57:07 <smickles>	$depth s.dice
Mar 11 21:57:08 <mpexbot>	smickles: Bids: ['100 @ 530012', '81 @ 530011', '800 @ 530000', '500 @ 520000', '10 @ 520000']
Mar 11 21:57:09 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['9299 @ 569996', '1000 @ 569997', '2000 @ 570000', '148 @ 599990', '48346 @ 600000']
Mar 11 21:57:10 <smickles>	:)
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Mar 11 21:57:19 <pizzaman1337>	smickles: nice
Mar 11 21:57:21 <Bowjob>	now lucif is gonna make some bullshit up how he calculated this could happen
Mar 11 21:57:32 <Bowjob>	and we're gonna look like emperors with no clothes
Mar 11 21:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb so he was looking to hire a qa. good for him.
Mar 11 21:58:25 <benkay>	too bad he never got around to it.
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Mar 11 21:58:42 <benkay>	egg -> face
Mar 11 21:58:45 <vampireb>	well devs dont wanna do qa, and u can't really qa your own shit
Mar 11 21:58:56 <benkay>	http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_E1j8gmCIr9w/TIQDRAZ9fbI/AAAAAAAAIOA/lYRso7Tr_fY/s1600/egg+on+your+face.png
Mar 11 21:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb so ?
Mar 11 21:59:14 <Bowjob>	meanwhile, LTC is surging
Mar 11 21:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob it would.
Mar 11 21:59:59 <vampireb>	so what? it isn't the end of the world. a minor hiccup
Mar 11 21:59:59 <smickles>	"Every be very careful about accepting any transactions for the the next few hours" << what is that supposed to mean :P
Mar 11 22:00:18 <benkay>	i'd take a bearish position on ltc, settled next month...
Mar 11 22:00:21 <smickles>	how is one to be careful?
Mar 11 22:00:32 <the-bucket-shop>	never let a tragedy go to waste fellas.  Plaster Satoshi Dice's name all over the news and posts if you can.
Mar 11 22:00:35 <vampireb>	the result: bitcoin foundation would be promoted as a saviour
Mar 11 22:00:38 <BitHub>	it not the end of the world?
Mar 11 22:00:43 *	BitHub unties his family
Mar 11 22:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	smickles that incoming txs might be wiped on fork merge
Mar 11 22:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	vampireb it's hopefully the end of a certain misplace attitude.
Mar 11 22:01:39 <gesell>	the-bucket-shop: what do you mean?
Mar 11 22:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	in the devteam.
Mar 11 22:01:51 <vampireb>	attitudes? yea.
Mar 11 22:01:51 <mircea_popescu>	aka "we know shit".
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Mar 11 22:01:59 <the-bucket-shop>	I mean satoshidice can get famous off of this news
Mar 11 22:02:04 <gesell>	also, what effect would this split have on hash/mining opporutunities?
Mar 11 22:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	gesell it's a temporary thing.
Mar 11 22:02:21 <gesell>	brief opportunities if that
Mar 11 22:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	if it's not temporary then there's no mining oportunities
Mar 11 22:02:36 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i know, but how would you be careful about it. seems binary to me
Mar 11 22:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	just stall them
Mar 11 22:02:55 <mircea_popescu>	im not processing incoming on mpex till its resolved for instance.
Mar 11 22:02:56 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: even if it is, it will take time for everyone to get on the proper chain, no... since apparently some versions will have to upgrade
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Mar 11 22:03:04 <benkay>	i'm out. this shit's boring.
Mar 11 22:03:06 <mircea_popescu>	(course i have the advantaghe that my system is designed so such things don't affect me)
Mar 11 22:03:20 <mircea_popescu>	gesell it seems downgrade moreover.
Mar 11 22:03:20 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:03:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.50000, Best ask: 44.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 43.10000, 24 hour volume: 75255.63737110, 24 hour low: 43.10000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 46.55735
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Mar 11 22:03:43 <vampireb>	ah good that i sold at 47. need to figure when to rebuy
Mar 11 22:04:23 <smickles>	2
Mar 11 22:04:26 <kakobrekla>	ltc crossed 1
Mar 11 22:04:29 <gesell>	so, just trying to understand this. how is mtgox processing tx's now. this effects minders and merchants, not exchanges?
Mar 11 22:04:33 <dub>	<dub> im buying at $10
Mar 11 22:04:40 <vampireb>	they dont process tx now?
Mar 11 22:04:49 <smickles>	gsi don't think they are processing deposits/withdrawals
Mar 11 22:04:50 <vampireb>	you can trade with existing funds
Mar 11 22:04:51 <dub>	they dont process tx
Mar 11 22:05:00 <dub>	unless you fund or withdraw
Mar 11 22:05:13 <dub>	which is frozen iirc
Mar 11 22:05:17 <gesell>	dub: perhaps i got the wrong term. if miners and merchants are told to wait, why not exchanges?
Mar 11 22:05:29 <vampireb>	miners need to switch to 0.7?
Mar 11 22:05:43 <smickles>	echanges != merchant?
Mar 11 22:05:48 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc now at all time high to btc, and well over its old all time high to fiat
Mar 11 22:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	gesell nobody is crediting incoming txs atm
Mar 11 22:06:05 <gesell>	im trying to guage if there will be a queu of sells waiting to flood through exchanges once things get back to speed
Mar 11 22:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	withdrawals are fine, but prolly people aren't doing it just to be safe.
Mar 11 22:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	gesell its possible.
Mar 11 22:06:25 <dub>	gesell: there will, and wait till it hits the press
Mar 11 22:06:35 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, outlook is a little bearish i guess
Mar 11 22:06:44 <dub>	I think $10 might be a bit bullish
Mar 11 22:07:00 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker --last
Mar 11 22:07:01 <gribble>	44.15000
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Mar 11 22:07:15 <Bowjob>	I'm dropping down 200 BTC
Mar 11 22:07:21 <pizzaman1337>	well, I can't wait to get myself some cheap coins if it drops
Mar 11 22:07:22 <gesell>	so its a selfish question now but ive always invested long term. and now im wondering if its time to pull and wait
Mar 11 22:07:28 <mod6>	pizzaman1337: same
Mar 11 22:07:38 <Bowjob>	pull put. i'll sell 200 BTC for 8k
Mar 11 22:08:28 <the-bucket-shop>	still 25 coins every 10 minutes as far as I know.  long term should be good gesell
Mar 11 22:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	so far options aren't moving at all.
Mar 11 22:09:07 <gesell>	the-bucket-shop: the long term is great. but the bible says to be a good steward with your money so im just wondering if im being a total  idiot just holding at this point
Mar 11 22:09:09 <gesell>	;)
Mar 11 22:09:10 <mircea_popescu>	im guessing people don't judge major drop likely.
Mar 11 22:09:14 <smickles>	;;view
Mar 11 22:09:15 <gribble>	#13963 Mon Mar 11 18:45:10 2013 smickles SELL 1.0 0.7 blockchain @ 50 btc (None)
Mar 11 22:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	got any offers yet ?
Mar 11 22:09:31 <smickles>	yup
Mar 11 22:09:43 <kakobrekla>	r u srs?
Mar 11 22:09:54 <kakobrekla>	ill sell for 25
Mar 11 22:10:01 <smickles>	nope
Mar 11 22:10:03 <smickles>	;D
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Mar 11 22:10:08 <gesell>	what are you selling smickles, dont get it
Mar 11 22:10:14 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 11 22:10:15 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 11 22:10:30 <gesell>	just selling the dat files? huh
Mar 11 22:10:37 <smickles>	gesell: because of the current situation, people who are on .8 and want .7 need to redownload the chain
Mar 11 22:10:37 <Bowjob>	heck ill sell for $13.29
Mar 11 22:10:39 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker --last
Mar 11 22:10:39 <gribble>	43.49999
Mar 11 22:10:39 <Bowjob>	what i paid for
Mar 11 22:10:40 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 11 22:10:52 <smickles>	a direct transfer from me to them would be a lot faster
Mar 11 22:11:00 <gesell>	heh, okay
Mar 11 22:11:14 <gesell>	im on 0.7 with last update 25 days ago
Mar 11 22:11:25 <Chaang-Noi>	bit is 42
Mar 11 22:11:30 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:11:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.20000, Best ask: 43.20758, Bid-ask spread: 0.00758, Last trade: 43.20000, 24 hour volume: 81127.52521536, 24 hour low: 42.00000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 46.26895
Mar 11 22:11:35 <Chaang-Noi>	or was lol
Mar 11 22:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
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Mar 11 22:12:04 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 11 22:12:05 <smickles>	!ticker ^OIX
Mar 11 22:12:06 <assbot>	You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship.
Mar 11 22:12:07 <kakobrekla>	book aint problematic
Mar 11 22:12:14 <the-bucket-shop>	hold on  if  I'm still not upgraded I can sell something?
Mar 11 22:12:19 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 11 22:12:20 <mpexbot>	smickles: {u'7d': {u'cnt': u'', u'min': u'4086787592', u'max': u'5325215905', u'vsa': u'954675808260', u'vsh': u'no', u'avg': u'5157005239'}, u'30d': {u'cnt': u'', u'min': u'', u'max': u'', u'vsa': u'', u'vsh': u'', u'avg': u''}, u'1d': {u'cnt': u'', u'min': u'', u'max': u'', u'vsa': u'', u'vsh': u'', u'avg': u''}}
Mar 11 22:12:22 <the-bucket-shop>	I'm trying to catch up
Mar 11 22:12:25 <kakobrekla>	but its impossible to trade
Mar 11 22:12:28 <kakobrekla>	with 30 sec lag
Mar 11 22:12:34 <dub>	its just a correction
Mar 11 22:12:37 <smickles>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:12:38 <gribble>	157.044926 seconds
Mar 11 22:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Mar 11 22:12:43 <kakobrekla>	or 157
Mar 11 22:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	bejaysus
Mar 11 22:13:00 <mod6>	:/
Mar 11 22:13:19 <Bowjob>	we need to summon satoshi
Mar 11 22:13:21 <Bowjob>	Earth!
Mar 11 22:13:45 <gesell>	does delay translate to some meaningful guage of load on gox?
Mar 11 22:13:48 <smickles>	the OIX is at 51?
Mar 11 22:13:54 <mod6>	yea
Mar 11 22:13:55 <smickles>	wtf?
Mar 11 22:14:44 <toffoo>	help me satoshi nakamoto, you're our only hope
Mar 11 22:14:49 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 11 22:14:51 <gribble>	46.31
Mar 11 22:14:59 <mod6>	only options today were 192 CALL @ 47
Mar 11 22:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	smickles nothing moved.
Mar 11 22:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	yet at least.
Mar 11 22:15:13 <dub>	gesell: it translates to 'gox is incapable of handling moderate load'
Mar 11 22:15:14 <smickles>	;;calc 41/1.11
Mar 11 22:15:14 <gribble>	36.9369369369
Mar 11 22:15:30 <mircea_popescu>	dub for some values of moderate such as
Mar 11 22:15:30 <smickles>	;;calc 43/1.14
Mar 11 22:15:31 <gribble>	37.7192982456
Mar 11 22:15:36 <gesell>	hmm, any predictions on bit bets effected by this
Mar 11 22:15:38 <dub>	gesell: alternatively 'bitcoin is a joke'
Mar 11 22:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	"what the average metro payment terminal in tokyo processes"
Mar 11 22:15:52 <smickles>	;;calc 75/1.62
Mar 11 22:15:52 <gribble>	46.2962962963
Mar 11 22:16:20 <smickles>	woops
Mar 11 22:16:27 <smickles>	;;calc 75/1.79
Mar 11 22:16:28 <gribble>	41.8994413408
Mar 11 22:16:29 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:16:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.00000, Best ask: 42.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99000, Last trade: 42.99000, 24 hour volume: 82087.73745767, 24 hour low: 42.00000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 46.19856
Mar 11 22:16:37 <pizzaman1337>	$1 spread
Mar 11 22:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	oh i see the girl is adequately incensed
Mar 11 22:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	paying her in btc was the best move ever.
Mar 11 22:17:08 <dub>	lol
Mar 11 22:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	she's like "they did what"
Mar 11 22:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	and im like "yes. here's pike bring heads"
Mar 11 22:17:43 <dub>	no rly?
Mar 11 22:17:45 <dub>	No cause we're too cool for testnet and elbow grease, gotta spend 16 hours a day on -dev talking about what we think of Satoshi Dice and how many whales fatass Gmaxwell could swallow whole.
Mar 11 22:17:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 10 @ 0.79079695 = 7.908 BTC [-]
Mar 11 22:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 11 22:18:10 <mod6>	bunch of cock-meat sandwiches
Mar 11 22:19:14 <dub>	man, if those ddos kids were on to it
Mar 11 22:19:21 <dub>	they could REALLY fuck shit up right now
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Mar 11 22:19:31 <mircea_popescu>	ya let's keep that part a little quieter shall we.
Mar 11 22:19:39 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 11 22:19:42 <dub>	but I want $2
Mar 11 22:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	nevertheless.
Mar 11 22:20:02 <smickles>	i see that as a goos ~8 btc spent
Mar 11 22:20:05 <smickles>	*good
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Mar 11 22:20:11 <gesell>	this one might get closer http://bitbet.us/bet/283/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-hit-50-in-march/
Mar 11 22:20:25 <ThickAsThieves>	so in a situation like this, where the usd/btc may fall on confidence, am i safer being mostly invested in assets?
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Mar 11 22:20:33 <ThickAsThieves>	or more exposed?
Mar 11 22:20:38 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves possibly. hard to gauge
Mar 11 22:20:40 <davout>	why are you guys even here
Mar 11 22:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	we have very little mkt history to go by
Mar 11 22:20:52 <davout>	all the cool kids are on bitcoin-dev
Mar 11 22:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	davout urmom was on the rag.
Mar 11 22:21:03 <gesell>	davout: to take advantage of fallouts?
Mar 11 22:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	no, only the dubiously metrosexual are on -dev
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Mar 11 22:21:12 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: if a significat amount of investors view their assets in terms of usd, then mebbe
Mar 11 22:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	smickles this is the time to buy eskimoblobs thing!
Mar 11 22:21:27 <smickles>	else: no
Mar 11 22:21:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i spent all day buying ltc assets
Mar 11 22:21:54 <grubles>	where da ltc assets at
Mar 11 22:21:56 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: no, this was clearly the time to <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 10 @ 0.79079695 = 7.908 BTC [-]
Mar 11 22:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	grubles btcto ?
Mar 11 22:22:03 <ThickAsThieves>	litecoinglobal.com
Mar 11 22:22:10 <davout>	bitcoin just became fun again
Mar 11 22:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	smickles short puts ?
Mar 11 22:22:25 <smickles>	well, from your end
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Mar 11 22:22:35 <the-bucket-shop>	I think s.dice and bitvps would benefit.  except that s.dice money faucet is turned off.
Mar 11 22:22:44 <the-bucket-shop>	because of a bad btc price
Mar 11 22:22:47 <grubles>	mircea_popescu: link?
Mar 11 22:22:47 <gesell>	davout: totally
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Mar 11 22:23:11 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:23:12 <gribble>	199.519792 seconds
Mar 11 22:23:15 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i bought them, if the bc,24hprc moves to the current spot, they break even
Mar 11 22:23:16 <kakobrekla>	...
Mar 11 22:23:27 <kakobrekla>	go gox.
Mar 11 22:23:34 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker --last
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Mar 11 22:23:34 <gribble>	41.40000
Mar 11 22:23:44 <smickles>	wasn't it over 1500 goxlag the other day
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Mar 11 22:24:24 <pgp2>	coinbr down again?
Mar 11 22:24:36 <gesell>	by all intents and purposes this is most definitely a crash
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Mar 11 22:24:50 <dub>	this is early days
Mar 11 22:25:06 <smickles>	lol, coinbr down. mpex.coinbr up
Mar 11 22:25:08 <vampireb>	imo a crash is good
Mar 11 22:25:15 <davout>	is mtgox even still trading ?
Mar 11 22:25:17 <dub>	crash comes when the media wakes up
Mar 11 22:25:33 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i also have those p310t's i bought a while back
Mar 11 22:25:47 <davout>	dub: not necessarily if it was taken care of quickly
Mar 11 22:25:54 <Bowjob>	All right, I'm not panicking. Stay frosty
Mar 11 22:26:12 <gesell>	Bowjob: don't panik, just buy when it all settles
Mar 11 22:26:16 <gesell>	well
Mar 11 22:26:40 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:26:40 <gesell>	i shouldnt give any advice. i dont know jack. but i will hedge a little when it bottoms out anyway, for myself
Mar 11 22:26:40 <gribble>	256.034339 seconds
Mar 11 22:26:41 <smickles>	best thing to do now is buy beer with bitcoin
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Mar 11 22:26:43 <kakobrekla>	;;ticer
Mar 11 22:26:43 <gribble>	Error: "ticer" is not a valid command.
Mar 11 22:26:47 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:26:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.21110, Best ask: 41.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18890, Last trade: 41.40000, 24 hour volume: 86823.51454120, 24 hour low: 41.20000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 45.94411
Mar 11 22:26:49 <smickles>	possibly free beer
Mar 11 22:26:55 <dub>	gox is trying to trade as always
Mar 11 22:27:04 <Bowjob>	actually, I could sell a few coins and buy back cheaper
Mar 11 22:27:05 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 11 22:27:08 <dub>	the little trading engine that could
Mar 11 22:27:17 <dub>	('nt)
Mar 11 22:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	sorry grubles link for what ?
Mar 11 22:28:47 <Chaang-Noi>	odd 12 ours oga this chan was dead as dead, wake up to panic, ahhh btc :)
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Mar 11 22:29:28 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:29:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.60269, Best ask: 41.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59731, Last trade: 41.20000, 24 hour volume: 91789.11504056, 24 hour low: 40.01110, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 45.66073
Mar 11 22:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	holy.
Mar 11 22:29:45 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 11 22:29:46 <Bowjob>	Brb, panicking now
Mar 11 22:30:37 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:30:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.37260, Best ask: 40.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12740, Last trade: 40.50000, 24 hour volume: 91802.34794623, 24 hour low: 40.01110, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 45.65939
Mar 11 22:30:44 <Chaang-Noi>	gox cant fall to far..people cant send gox coins to sell :)
Mar 11 22:30:54 <wiggzz>	so what're the running odds that puts on mpex actually pay out if btc crashes very low?
Mar 11 22:30:57 <mircea_popescu>	that's a point.
Mar 11 22:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	wiggzz 100%.
Mar 11 22:31:09 <wiggzz>	are they hedged?
Mar 11 22:31:13 <pizzaman1337>	Chaang-Noi: but when they open it up, there could be a selloff
Mar 11 22:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	yes, the only way to write them is by depositing capital
Mar 11 22:31:33 <Chaang-Noi>	after 6 trasactions could be a sell off yes... but people seeing it is fixed will be like, cheap coinz!!!!!!!
Mar 11 22:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 very likely actually.
Mar 11 22:31:43 <Chaang-Noi>	im pretty sure i know how this drama will play out
Mar 11 22:31:44 <wiggzz>	but, on a put required capital is not as great as they can fall
Mar 11 22:32:03 <Chaang-Noi>	fiat in the gox will beat the 6 confirm sell off
Mar 11 22:32:17 <gesell>	something that really disturbs me right now is the number of way overpriced buy bids still sitting on bitcoin.de (a p2p exchange with pretty high volume)
Mar 11 22:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490N] 10 @ 0.1721919 = 1.7219 BTC
Mar 11 22:32:25 <Chaang-Noi>	even if we go to $25 we will bounce right back up if this shit gets sorted quickly
Mar 11 22:32:35 <Chaang-Noi>	btw eta on this being fixed?
Mar 11 22:32:50 <gesell>	mtgox price is at 31eu but you could still sell on bitcoin.de for 36
Mar 11 22:32:58 <Bowjob>	should be a few hours
Mar 11 22:32:59 <pizzaman1337>	Chaang-Noi: as soon as the 0.7 chain is longer, I think. Not sure how far behind it is.
Mar 11 22:33:04 <the-bucket-shop>	gesell what time is it in de 4 am?
Mar 11 22:33:10 <gesell>	yeah 3:30
Mar 11 22:33:14 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:33:15 <gribble>	299.836034 seconds
Mar 11 22:33:22 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah id like to know the leanth of the chains
Mar 11 22:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	wiggzz puts are bounded by fiat value
Mar 11 22:33:32 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:33:34 <mircea_popescu>	you can't make more than 50 bucks on a 50 struck put
Mar 11 22:33:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.01000, Best ask: 40.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 40.01000, 24 hour volume: 92084.38009144, 24 hour low: 40.01000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 45.64045
Mar 11 22:33:41 <kakobrekla>	we are at 35 or 45 imho
Mar 11 22:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla likely 35-37 ya
Mar 11 22:33:52 <gesell>	im a bit worried selling on bitcoin.de though because if the buyer doesnt care to loose a bit of reputation they could just backout
Mar 11 22:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi i would guess it will be solved within a couple of hourd.
Mar 11 22:34:27 <gesell>	35, really? what, end of the month or just tomorrow or something?
Mar 11 22:35:00 <Chaang-Noi>	okay, ill go pay insurance for my truck.. and ship off some wild honey... i need to get afk anyway:)
Mar 11 22:35:00 <gesell>	the thing with the bitcoin market is the reaction extends over a long period. so what you see happening now will continue in a similar manner with the EU wakes up
Mar 11 22:35:20 <kakobrekla>	hey, EU is awake
Mar 11 22:35:26 <gesell>	nope
Mar 11 22:35:32 <kakobrekla>	well we are up
Mar 11 22:35:37 <kakobrekla>	me mircea_popescu and jurov
Mar 11 22:35:50 <kakobrekla>	is there some one else relevant?
Mar 11 22:35:51 <wiggzz>	right, but in BTC the required collateral was only strike / spot
Mar 11 22:35:52 <gesell>	ive watched it happen. a lul for a few hours then around 10am de time (8 9 whatever UK) a lot of activity
Mar 11 22:35:54 <Bowjob>	;;eightball Is this the end for bitcoin?
Mar 11 22:35:55 <gribble>	No chance.
Mar 11 22:36:01 <mod6>	:]
Mar 11 22:36:03 <Bowjob>	The eightball has spoken!
Mar 11 22:36:13 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: I'm not really relevant, but most of the time I'm over there
Mar 11 22:36:19 <Bowjob>	Everyone quit panicking, its just a few blocks. Tomorrow, we shall see $50
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Mar 11 22:36:29 <mod6>	i <3 gribble
Mar 11 22:36:30 <Chaang-Noi>	davout> Chaang-Noi: approx 12 blocks difference
Mar 11 22:36:41 <kakobrekla>	pizzaman1337 i was just messing with gesell
Mar 11 22:36:47 <pizzaman1337>	:)
Mar 11 22:36:51 <gesell>	Bowjob: im not paniking. just aknowledging that the market is filled with a significant number of people investing more short term that will panik
Mar 11 22:37:04 <dub>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:37:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.00000, Best ask: 40.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 40.00000, 24 hour volume: 99762.92721491, 24 hour low: 38.01051, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 45.12452
Mar 11 22:37:05 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker --last
Mar 11 22:37:05 <gribble>	40.00000
Mar 11 22:37:10 <kakobrekla>	a round number!
Mar 11 22:37:22 <pizzaman1337>	quick, take a screenshot!
Mar 11 22:37:26 <kakobrekla>	quick play SD
Mar 11 22:37:28 <dub>	shit is broken?
Mar 11 22:37:47 <kakobrekla>	prolly
Mar 11 22:37:47 <smickles>	wiggzz: the additions funds needed would probably come from mpbor
Mar 11 22:37:49 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:37:50 <gribble>	355.023263 seconds
Mar 11 22:37:52 <wiggzz>	say you write a put at 21, with USDBTC at 40, required collateral is 0.525 BTC?
Mar 11 22:38:06 <kakobrekla>	so does lag go only up?
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Mar 11 22:38:19 <wiggzz>	but if USDBTC drops to 1, payout is 20 USD which would be 20 BTC... way more than required collateral?
Mar 11 22:38:27 <kakobrekla>	imma go long on lag
Mar 11 22:38:30 <smickles>	wiggzz: the mpbor assumes the risk of mpex options
Mar 11 22:38:35 <kakobrekla>	who can help me out?
Mar 11 22:38:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 1000 @ 0.14725493 = 147.2549 BTC [+]
Mar 11 22:39:00 <smickles>	kakobrekla: help with what?
Mar 11 22:39:02 <pigeons>	i'll take the over on lag
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Mar 11 22:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	heh there we go
Mar 11 22:39:08 <kakobrekla>	smickles to go long on lag
Mar 11 22:39:10 <pizzaman1337>	we need an MPSIC for goxlag
Mar 11 22:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 1000 @ 0.17572879 = 175.7288 BTC [+]
Mar 11 22:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 11 22:39:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 40.86787592 / 51.57005239 / 53.25215905 (no shares, 9,546.76 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 11 22:39:55 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:39:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.90000, Best ask: 38.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 38.00000, 24 hour volume: 101521.68067860, 24 hour low: 37.90000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 45.00561
Mar 11 22:40:01 <smickles>	woo
Mar 11 22:40:03 <kakobrekla>	deep.
Mar 11 22:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	wiggzz that issue is taken care of by a little insurance premium on oputs issuance
Mar 11 22:40:13 <smickles>	;;bids 31
Mar 11 22:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	and in exchange i settle puts in fiat in case of utter collapse
Mar 11 22:40:29 <gribble>	There are currently 33593.186 bitcoins demanded at or over 31.0 USD, worth 1149514.37586 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0061 seconds
Mar 11 22:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 1000 @ 0.15522008 = 155.2201 BTC [+]
Mar 11 22:40:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 1000 @ 0.18486613 = 184.8661 BTC [+]
Mar 11 22:41:00 <wiggzz>	ok, good to know
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Mar 11 22:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 1000 @ 0.1040628 = 104.0628 BTC [+]
Mar 11 22:41:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 1000 @ 0.12826263 = 128.2626 BTC [+]
Mar 11 22:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 11 22:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 11 22:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 40.86787592 / 51.57005239 / 53.25215905 (no shares, 9,546.76 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Mar 11 22:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	no srsly ?
Mar 11 22:42:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i should have shorted btc :)
Mar 11 22:42:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: is that unchanged on the 7day?
Mar 11 22:42:56 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
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Mar 11 22:43:07 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:43:08 <gribble>	365.309178 seconds
Mar 11 22:43:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.80000, Best ask: 38.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 38.00000, 24 hour volume: 101597.26956421, 24 hour low: 37.80000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 45.00044
Mar 11 22:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	smickles yeh. i wonder wtf.
Mar 11 22:43:28 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 11 22:43:29 <mpexbot>	smickles: {u'7d': {u'cnt': u'', u'min': u'4086787592', u'max': u'5325215905', u'vsa': u'954675808260', u'vsh': u'no', u'avg': u'5157005239'}, u'30d': {u'cnt': u'', u'min': u'', u'max': u'', u'vsa': u'', u'vsh': u'', u'avg': u''}, u'1d': {u'cnt': u'', u'min': u'', u'max': u'', u'vsa': u'', u'vsh': u'', u'avg': u''}}
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Mar 11 22:43:54 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 11 22:43:55 <gribble>	45.11
Mar 11 22:45:37 <wiggzz>	bitcoin.clarkmoody.com down...
Mar 11 22:46:14 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 11 22:47:30 <Bowjob>	$45.51
Mar 11 22:47:32 <Bowjob>	according to coinlab
Mar 11 22:47:32 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 11 22:47:40 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:47:41 <gribble>	564.66904 seconds
Mar 11 22:47:43 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 11 22:47:45 <kakobrekla>	37 on bitstamp
Mar 11 22:47:48 <Bowjob>	89 min ago
Mar 11 22:47:58 <dub>	nicely scaling there gox
Mar 11 22:48:02 <dub>	linear even
Mar 11 22:48:08 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:48:09 <gribble>	584.930613 seconds
Mar 11 22:48:12 <kakobrekla>	so gox is turning in historcial btc chart reading site
Mar 11 22:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 11 22:48:50 <Bowjob>	how much will BTC drop by do you think
Mar 11 22:48:51 <Chaang-Noi>	https://coinbase.com/network/blocks     block races website
Mar 11 22:48:58 <kakobrekla>	this is a serious problem
Mar 11 22:48:59 <gesell>	to $25
Mar 11 22:49:04 <kakobrekla>	even if you guys find it funny
Mar 11 22:49:18 <kakobrekla>	serious tranders dont suffer shit like this
Mar 11 22:49:22 <kakobrekla>	traders
Mar 11 22:49:36 <kakobrekla>	you want to bring wall street to btc?
Mar 11 22:49:37 <pigeons>	https://blockchain.info/orphaned-blocks
Mar 11 22:49:38 <kakobrekla>	kill gox
Mar 11 22:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 7 @ 0.12612881 = 0.8829 BTC [-]
Mar 11 22:50:20 <gesell>	kakobrekla: first, im sorry this is all happening. im sure it is ruining some peoples day. but why do you see it as a mtgox problem?
Mar 11 22:50:34 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons see my link, i found that helpful
Mar 11 22:50:48 <smickles>	gesell: traditional markes shut down at times like these
Mar 11 22:50:56 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 11 22:51:00 <kakobrekla>	tell me something
Mar 11 22:51:05 <kakobrekla>	when you go to a foregin country
Mar 11 22:51:12 <kakobrekla>	and you need some of their currecny
Mar 11 22:51:17 <kakobrekla>	do you go to your FX broker to get it?
Mar 11 22:51:25 <kakobrekla>	or to buy phycal gold?
Mar 11 22:51:25 <pizzaman1337>	I wish
Mar 11 22:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you're telling me ?
Mar 11 22:51:43 <kakobrekla>	im telling gesell
Mar 11 22:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 11 22:51:53 <mircea_popescu>	fuycking painful shit.
Mar 11 22:51:55 <dub>	whats a time like this for traditional markets?
Mar 11 22:51:56 <kakobrekla>	or if you trade stocks
Mar 11 22:52:00 <kakobrekla>	do you have a broker
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Mar 11 22:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons are we merged ?
Mar 11 22:52:05 <kakobrekla>	or do you go on the trading floor yourself
Mar 11 22:52:07 <kakobrekla>	and yell there
Mar 11 22:52:12 <smickles>	dub: movements over x%
Mar 11 22:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	halelujah
Mar 11 22:52:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1 @ 0.17769942 BTC [-]
Mar 11 22:52:25 <gesell>	kakobrekla: sorry, im not following
Mar 11 22:52:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 9 @ 0.12120114 = 1.0908 BTC [-]
Mar 11 22:52:33 <kakobrekla>	:\
Mar 11 22:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	11 blocks
Mar 11 22:52:40 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker --last
Mar 11 22:52:41 <gribble>	36.80000
Mar 11 22:52:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 1000 @ 0.10590572 = 105.9057 BTC [+]
Mar 11 22:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 1000 @ 0.15775711 = 157.7571 BTC [+]
Mar 11 22:53:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 1000 @ 0.13044382 = 130.4438 BTC [+]
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Mar 11 22:53:46 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:53:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.68160, Best ask: 38.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.31840, Last trade: 38.00000, 24 hour volume: 105824.64907266, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.68534
Mar 11 22:53:59 <Bowjob>	Are we allowed to do transactions
Mar 11 22:54:00 <Bowjob>	?
Mar 11 22:54:06 <smickles>	yea
Mar 11 22:54:21 <smickles>	it might be risky on the chain tho
Mar 11 22:54:57 <gesell>	i dont know, im not a fan of kill switches so i'd like to see bitcoin-dev's learn from this so that similar bugs in the future can be handled without shutting anything down
Mar 11 22:55:16 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:55:16 <gribble>	444.693169 seconds
Mar 11 22:55:17 <Bowjob>	I can sell coins now at 38.50 now
Mar 11 22:55:23 <Bowjob>	before this shit blows out of proportions
Mar 11 22:55:24 <smickles>	goxlag is dropping?
Mar 11 22:55:33 <smickles>	it was over 600 a moment ago
Mar 11 22:55:49 <gesell>	;;goxlag-but-make-it-intersting-please
Mar 11 22:55:50 <gribble>	Error: "goxlag-but-make-it-intersting-please" is not a valid command.
Mar 11 22:56:23 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:56:24 <gribble>	369.036619 seconds
Mar 11 22:56:29 <smickles>	gesell: i think most btc exchanges are anti-killswitch
Mar 11 22:57:22 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 11 22:57:23 <gribble>	44.92
Mar 11 22:58:03 <smickles>	;;calc 45/1.18
Mar 11 22:58:03 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 22:58:03 <gribble>	38.1355932203
Mar 11 22:58:04 <gribble>	338.887145 seconds
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Mar 11 22:59:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 1000 @ 0.08420338 = 84.2034 BTC [+]
Mar 11 22:59:18 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 11 22:59:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.01138, Best ask: 40.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.98862, Last trade: 40.00000, 24 hour volume: 107876.01377001, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.55733
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Mar 11 22:59:51 <kakobrekla>	this somehow reminds me of http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/estimation.png
Mar 11 23:00:54 <dub>	lol
Mar 11 23:01:20 <gesell>	question... so just curious would the initial errors that 0.7 clients were reporting (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=30587843) that sipa mentions, would those just be bug reports to bitcointalk or to sourceforge bug tracker or? just curious where alerts of such issues before its plastered everywhere would come from
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Mar 11 23:01:43 <gesell>	did anyone see where this first started and was coming to the surface?
Mar 11 23:02:30 <the-bucket-shop>	blockchain.info is still scrolling satoshidice bets.  I wonder which blockchain
Mar 11 23:03:35 <dub>	they only disabled payouts
Mar 11 23:03:44 <dub>	(obv)
Mar 11 23:03:49 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 23:03:50 <gribble>	483.195032 seconds
Mar 11 23:04:36 <gesell>	i wonder if apart from the discussion about soft limits, we will also start to see features that give more oversight and regulation, even if more symbolic than bernanke like. such letting bitcoin-dev patch or blacklist more quickly or perhaps at will
Mar 11 23:04:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 23 @ 0.86122741 = 19.8082 BTC [+]
Mar 11 23:05:12 <Bowjob>	Aight, I guaratneed 75 BTC to be sold at.. $2799
Mar 11 23:05:17 <Bowjob>	for the next 3 hours
Mar 11 23:05:23 <Bowjob>	lets see what happenes
Mar 11 23:05:55 <dub>	gesell: the attitude of the dev team has always been that bitcoin is their little science experiment and its not intended for production
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Mar 11 23:06:14 <Uglux>	<satoshinakamoto> I'm back to save the day
Mar 11 23:06:15 <Uglux>	lol
Mar 11 23:06:51 <kakobrekla>	no no
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Mar 11 23:07:08 <digiJesusSatoshi>	must be liek dat.
Mar 11 23:07:16 <gesell>	dub: i dont think my statement disagress with that at all. just looking at new horizons for the experiment
Mar 11 23:07:26 <digiJesusSatoshi>	Luke-Jr YOU MUST BEHAVE U HEAR ME
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Mar 11 23:07:41 <dub>	you're going to have a hard time selling these guys oversight
Mar 11 23:08:11 <gesell>	dub: i agree. if it comes though it would be slowly and with a different label
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Mar 11 23:09:23 <pigeons>	gesell: https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin/commit/ca7739797ce7990ebb9f33852412f2c3f6950b0d
Mar 11 23:09:30 <gesell>	saw it
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Mar 11 23:10:15 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 11 23:10:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.60000, Best ask: 42.65559, Bid-ask spread: 0.05559, Last trade: 42.60000, 24 hour volume: 109984.04612509, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.45198
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Mar 11 23:10:20 <Bowjob>	hey did we recover
Mar 11 23:10:25 <gesell>	this event is fascinating actually
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Mar 11 23:10:39 <kakobrekla>	nature is amazing. ~ ron swanson
Mar 11 23:10:50 <vampireb>	not recovered, there still a fork.
Mar 11 23:12:12 <vampireb>	;;ticker
Mar 11 23:12:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.60000, Best ask: 42.72770, Bid-ask spread: 0.12770, Last trade: 42.60000, 24 hour volume: 109893.67866310, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.44885
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Mar 11 23:13:04 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 23:13:04 <gribble>	482.005774 seconds
Mar 11 23:13:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 11 23:13:59 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225452 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 339 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 21 hours, 12 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
Mar 11 23:14:24 <dub>	;;bc,price
Mar 11 23:14:26 <gribble>	Next Price Estimate: 46.86 | Next Price In About 3 days, 1 hour, 50 minutes, and 34 seconds
Mar 11 23:14:34 <ThickAsThieves>	lies
Mar 11 23:15:50 <Bowjob>	;;eightball How's LTC
Mar 11 23:15:51 <gribble>	One would be wise to think so.
Mar 11 23:16:11 <Bowjob>	erm, i shoulda asked a yes or no q
Mar 11 23:16:11 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 11 23:16:30 <gesell>	blacklistblock = regulation. though peer agreed. which is fascinating because we do not have such language in traditional finance
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Mar 11 23:17:00 <gesell>	or we do but a bit more abstracted and not so clear as it is here
Mar 11 23:17:12 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 11 23:17:16 <kakobrekla>	looks like flipper.
Mar 11 23:17:28 <gesell>	that is a huge spread
Mar 11 23:17:44 <kakobrekla>	pres B for left side and S for right side
Mar 11 23:17:46 <kakobrekla>	play!
Mar 11 23:17:47 <Line_>	In gaven we trust
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Mar 11 23:18:43 <Bowjob>	Maybe Satoshi is looking from afar
Mar 11 23:19:59 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 11 23:20:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.03000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 111563.57296537, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.44028
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Mar 11 23:21:23 <gesell>	just for the record the drop started at 2:41am GMT+1  (had some logs)
Mar 11 23:21:37 <davos>	Bowjob: I'd rather put money on satoshi being 2 or 3 people over in -dev
Mar 11 23:22:08 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball Buy! Buy! Buy?
Mar 11 23:22:09 <gribble>	_I_ don't know.
Mar 11 23:22:28 <Bowjob>	;;eightball Is Satoshi Nakamoto 1 person?
Mar 11 23:22:28 <gribble>	What are you asking me for?
Mar 11 23:22:36 <Bowjob>	>_>
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Mar 11 23:23:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball Sell all BTC for LTC?
Mar 11 23:23:27 <gribble>	The outlook is good.
Mar 11 23:23:31 <gesell>	"(04:04:59) gmaxwell: jeffgarzik is /msging me telling me that jgarzik is an imposter." --- heh, and people still have the heart to troll.  oh internets
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Mar 11 23:24:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 11 23:24:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00000039 / 0.00000053 / 0.00000053 (50897 shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Mar 11 23:25:41 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: what's up with that?
Mar 11 23:25:45 <ThickAsThieves>	oix killed bitcoin
Mar 11 23:25:57 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i just dug up oix to see wtf.
Mar 11 23:26:04 <gesell>	;;ticker --last
Mar 11 23:26:05 <gribble>	45.00000
Mar 11 23:26:10 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 23:26:11 <gribble>	559.099063 seconds
Mar 11 23:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	but basically nothing is wrong with it
Mar 11 23:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	just... the weight of the calls sold is so much heavier than the weight of the puts bought just now
Mar 11 23:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	that the oix still points to high btc
Mar 11 23:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	so it is working as intended, be that useful or not
Mar 11 23:27:04 <Bowjob>	so its still bullish btc?
Mar 11 23:27:08 <ThickAsThieves>	devs dont seem to be using public chat now
Mar 11 23:27:23 <ThickAsThieves>	btc always bullish (in betweeen crashes)
Mar 11 23:27:40 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: isn't it off by about 8 digits?
Mar 11 23:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 11 23:28:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 39.89104856 / 0.00000053 / 53.27237035 (50897 shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 11 23:28:16 <Bowjob>	okay everything fixed
Mar 11 23:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	heh yeah 1 sec
Mar 11 23:28:19 <mircea_popescu>	bad cache
Mar 11 23:29:12 <smickles>	http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:chart_patterns:double_top_reversal
Mar 11 23:29:31 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 11 23:29:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 39.89104856 / 53.82025731 / 53.27237035 (50897 shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 11 23:29:45 <smickles>	yay:D
Mar 11 23:30:11 <mircea_popescu>	wait volume went away nao lo;\
Mar 11 23:30:56 <smickles>	$markov
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Mar 11 23:30:57 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: your blog fails to load
Mar 11 23:31:02 <smickles>	lol
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Mar 11 23:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 11 23:35:16 <BitHub>	how many hours till next asicminer divy?
Mar 11 23:35:27 <BitHub>	48?
Mar 11 23:36:46 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 23:36:47 <gribble>	166.108439 seconds
Mar 11 23:37:30 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker --last
Mar 11 23:37:31 <gribble>	44.90000
Mar 11 23:39:33 <topace_>	jesus whats going on with the blockchain??
Mar 11 23:39:42 <pizzaman1337>	http://bitcoin.org/chainfork.html
Mar 11 23:39:57 <smickles>	know waht? pps pool are boned
Mar 11 23:40:15 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin split, price crashed all while you were takign a piss
Mar 11 23:40:19 <kakobrekla>	all well now.
Mar 11 23:40:34 <BitHub>	safe to recieve payments again?
Mar 11 23:40:44 <smickles>	nope
Mar 11 23:41:17 <smickles>	you ought to wait until the .7 (short) chain grows longer than the main chain
Mar 11 23:41:27 <smickles>	and some miners are still adding to the main chain
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Mar 11 23:41:48 <ThickAsThieves>	Schrödinger's BitBet - This bet will have more total BTC bet on Yes than on No before it closes.
Mar 11 23:41:49 <smickles>	and there is still confusion among the devs
Mar 11 23:41:56 <ThickAsThieves>	good?
Mar 11 23:42:17 <pizzaman1337>	ThickAsThieves: awesome
Mar 11 23:42:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i had a few ideas for meta bets
Mar 11 23:42:38 <ThickAsThieves>	had to submit one
Mar 11 23:43:01 <BitHub>	hmmm
Mar 11 23:43:02 <kakobrekla>	dunno if those are approved
Mar 11 23:43:58 <BitHub>	so if someone sends me coins now they're gone for good?
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Mar 11 23:44:35 <ThickAsThieves>	the bet has a fault, or a bonus depending on how you look at it
Mar 11 23:44:40 <kakobrekla>	imho they will be respendable with the longer chain not containing that tx
Mar 11 23:44:53 <ThickAsThieves>	people will bet til it closes ... and after
Mar 11 23:45:32 <the-bucket-shop>	ThickAsThievs - you just blew my mind
Mar 11 23:45:34 <kakobrekla>	which mean a few bitbets will have to be invalidated
Mar 11 23:45:41 <kakobrekla>	or something
Mar 11 23:45:43 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 11 23:46:42 <kakobrekla>	>The risk is small because this is not a network split-- transactions are being sent to both sides of the chain split, and it is unlikely (but possible) that somebody could get two versions of the same transaction into the two sides of the chain.
Mar 11 23:46:43 <kakobrekla>	ah
Mar 11 23:46:50 <kakobrekla>	apparently not a real problem
Mar 11 23:46:50 <smickles>	< BitHub> so if someone sends me coins now they're gone for good? << no, it's up to which chain it's included in
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Mar 11 23:47:12 <BitHub>	mmk
Mar 11 23:47:36 <smickles>	basically, it's just risky
Mar 11 23:48:00 <kakobrekla>	totoally oposite of bitcoin in general.
Mar 11 23:48:09 <smickles>	yup
Mar 11 23:48:16 <kakobrekla>	fuckin keboard fails
Mar 11 23:48:35 <mircea_popescu>	and it is unlikely (but possible) <><< yeah. they know.
Mar 11 23:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	because it's just a prototype, right ?
Mar 11 23:49:13 <mircea_popescu>	what is the barrier to entry to this, make two txs,b roadcast it to two diff nodes.
Mar 11 23:49:17 <kakobrekla>	the version is below 1 right?
Mar 11 23:49:21 <kakobrekla>	so don fuck around.
Mar 11 23:50:27 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Mar 11 23:50:27 <gribble>	17.295316 seconds
Mar 11 23:50:36 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 11 23:50:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.01000, Best ask: 45.89900, Bid-ask spread: 0.88900, Last trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 119265.24377758, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.50395
Mar 11 23:50:44 <topace_>	how can you tell if your bitcoin daemon is on the right chain?
Mar 11 23:50:48 <topace_>	(on the 0.7 chain)
Mar 11 23:51:24 <smickles>	topace_: as a regualr user, i dunno. but it'll switch over automatically when the .7 chain is longer
Mar 11 23:51:25 <kakobrekla>	by the block height
Mar 11 23:51:34 <kakobrekla>	?
Mar 11 23:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	topace_ you can't
Mar 11 23:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	bsically.
Mar 11 23:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	cause it's not a matter of your daemon
Mar 11 23:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	you just emit txs. the miners add them on their mempools
Mar 11 23:52:19 <mircea_popescu>	you have no idea what they run
Mar 11 23:53:26 <smickles>	right now, you can 'bitcoind getinfo' and look at the height. current 'wrong' chain is at 225453, .7 is at 225442
Mar 11 23:53:43 <kakobrekla>	what i said.
Mar 11 23:54:10 <smickles>	kakobrekla: but the differenc will be more and more difficult to tell soon
Mar 11 23:54:15 <kakobrekla>	yep
Mar 11 23:54:44 <mircea_popescu>	good luck getting the miners to accept a 14 block loss
Mar 11 23:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	that's like 350 btc
Mar 11 23:54:56 <kakobrekla>	pool are gonna hurt
Mar 11 23:55:01 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: some arn't, the largest pools are
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Mar 11 23:55:12 <smickles>	only pps pools are fucked
Mar 11 23:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	smickles explain why the "wrong" one is longer then.
Mar 11 23:55:15 <kakobrekla>	good day for not to be a pool op
Mar 11 23:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla it prolly destroyes those unfortunate fucks that paid out on the 0 diff
Mar 11 23:55:41 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it mined a block sized larger than 250k
Mar 11 23:55:52 <smickles>	funny, no?
Mar 11 23:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	no i meant blocvk height
Mar 11 23:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	the wrong chain is lionger yet you're telling me the miners are moving.
Mar 11 23:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	proof ?
Mar 11 23:56:22 <smickles>	the wrong one mined a block which .7 clients couldn't see
Mar 11 23:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	yeah...
Mar 11 23:56:55 <dub>	good day for not being the guild pool op
Mar 11 23:56:58 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: look at blockchain.info, the major pools are mining an orphaned chain
Mar 11 23:57:02 <dub>	double whammy there
Mar 11 23:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	EXACTLY
Mar 11 23:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	and my point is, they will continue to do so.
Mar 11 23:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	because they have no incentive not to.
Mar 11 23:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	and if they move back in they're 400 btc out.
Mar 11 23:57:26 <smickles>	you've got it backwards tho
Mar 11 23:57:30 <kakobrekla>	well bitbet seems to be on the right one
Mar 11 23:57:30 <mircea_popescu>	have i ?
Mar 11 23:57:34 <smickles>	the orphaned chain is the 'right' one
Mar 11 23:57:43 <smickles>	it's just not long enough yet
Mar 11 23:57:49 <mircea_popescu>	ah
Mar 11 23:57:53 <mircea_popescu>	this makes sense.
Mar 11 23:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	let me guess... so the longer chain is the wrong one. because that's why it's longer
Mar 11 23:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	cause nobody mines on it.
Mar 11 23:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	wtf ?!
Mar 11 23:58:13 <smickles>	yeah, gotta love all those peeps encouraging the pool ops to mine blocks larger than 250k b/c of SD
Mar 11 23:58:41 <gesell>	the crash and recovery in ascii glory http://i.imgur.com/hgYAta0.gif
Mar 11 23:58:43 <smickles>	they mined on the 'wrong' one for some time b/f peeps realized there was a problem
Mar 11 23:59:02 <smickles>	now the 'right' one is trying to catch up
Mar 11 23:59:15 <Bowjob>	i thoguht its solved already
Mar 11 23:59:18 <mircea_popescu>	i love the various people on bitcointalk trying to move the conversation
Mar 11 23:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	anywhere but away from the point that devs fucked up
Mar 11 23:59:41 <smickles>	Bowjob: they have a band=aid fix, revert to the old chain
Mar 11 23:59:43 <mircea_popescu>	anything and everything shall be discussed, but god forbid someone gets bitchslapped
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Mar 12 00:00:06 <Bowjob>	and i hope everyone is actually mining on the 0.72 chain
Mar 12 00:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob we see their rate of gain
Mar 12 00:00:29 <smickles>	Bowjob: some are, some arnt
Mar 12 00:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	if in an hour the "werong" one is +2...
Mar 12 00:00:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 12 00:00:45 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225453 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 338 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 21 hours, 4 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
Mar 12 00:00:54 <smickles>	225453 is the 'wrong' chain
Mar 12 00:01:20 <smickles>	225443 is the .7 chain
Mar 12 00:01:25 <kakobrekla>	from now on ill be runing 0.1 legacy
Mar 12 00:01:57 <smickles>	if i had enough coins to justify it, i might run one of each
Mar 12 00:02:08 <smickles>	it's only 8 right now
Mar 12 00:03:55 <smickles>	ya know, there's a chance this band-aid fix won't work, the .8 chain looks like it might be going faster than the .7
Mar 12 00:04:00 <error4733>	BFL_Josh : 11 March 2013 Update :  Say what you want about BFL, but we make ASICs look good.
Mar 12 00:04:08 <error4733>	best joke ever
Mar 12 00:04:21 <Bowjob>	They make Avalon look good
Mar 12 00:04:39 <Bowjob>	heck, Avalons come with gloves
Mar 12 00:05:30 <mircea_popescu>	smickles aha
Mar 12 00:06:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P730T] 15 @ 0.81355 = 12.2033 BTC [-]
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Mar 12 00:07:05 <Bowjob>	mhm.. http://coinlab.com/
Mar 12 00:07:12 <Bowjob>	watching this is entertaining as fuck
Mar 12 00:07:59 <PeterL>	The 'right' chain is definately catching up to the 'wrong' one
Mar 12 00:08:38 <PeterL>	I think in the past hour the 'right' chain has gone up 5 blocks, the 'wrong' one has gone up 2
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Mar 12 00:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	PeterL they're even now or am i on delayed data ?
Mar 12 00:09:04 <smickles>	ah, i think i screwed up my look at it then
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Mar 12 00:09:50 <smickles>	they're still 9 blocks from forcing the  switch
Mar 12 00:10:11 <smickles>	8 blocks to be even
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Mar 12 00:11:22 <PeterL>	how will this outage affect satoshiDice share price?
Mar 12 00:11:26 <Bowjob>	bt we're winnign at least
Mar 12 00:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	is the wrong one taller than 445 ?
Mar 12 00:11:49 <smickles>	453
Mar 12 00:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 12 00:11:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00530001 / 0.00551785 / 0.00569996 (11580 shares, 63.90 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.0051045 / 0.006 (200407 shares, 1,022.98 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00614247 / 0.0069 (2518785 shares, 15,471.58 BTC)
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Mar 12 00:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	PeterL so far doesn't seem to have affected it
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Mar 12 00:12:22 <smickles>	PeterL: it was the anti-SD'ers who forced this issue
Mar 12 00:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	smickles the 250k arbitrary limit had to go anyway
Mar 12 00:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	it had no point being there in the first place
Mar 12 00:13:04 <smickles>	yeah, but not now. it could've undergone more testing
Mar 12 00:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	not putting bullshit in the codebase takes no testing
Mar 12 00:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	it just takes some firm adherence to coding principle.
Mar 12 00:13:47 <smickles>	so you think there should be no limit?
Mar 12 00:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	the 1mb limit is THE limit.
Mar 12 00:14:25 <kakobrekla>	why a souch arbitrary number
Mar 12 00:14:31 <mircea_popescu>	they need to go through the whole code and take out all the bs of the sort.
Mar 12 00:14:33 <kakobrekla>	its no better than 250k
Mar 12 00:14:37 <kakobrekla>	really
Mar 12 00:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, but
Mar 12 00:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	the 1mb is baked in now
Mar 12 00:14:58 <Bowjob>	If we hit 1mb limit
Mar 12 00:15:00 <Bowjob>	then what
Mar 12 00:15:01 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 12 00:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	the (undocumented) limit to client tx size for instance, is not.
Mar 12 00:15:06 <smickles>	txfees rise
Mar 12 00:15:10 <Bowjob>	Satoshi envisioned 100 GB per day
Mar 12 00:17:05 <gesell>	jesus multiplied 7 fishes
Mar 12 00:17:30 <Bowjob>	he had fishes under the table
Mar 12 00:17:50 <smickles>	btcguild gunning for 5 in a row now
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Mar 12 00:19:00 <mod6>	http://youtu.be/c0SuIMUoShI << my gf sends her regards
Mar 12 00:20:36 <mod6>	\:
Mar 12 00:21:08 <smickles>	ya know, it's quite possible that there is only one electron in the whole universe
Mar 12 00:21:54 <jborkl_>	better not tell the protons
Mar 12 00:23:16 <smickles>	the protons can't tell one electron from the other anyway
Mar 12 00:23:24 <smickles>	they all look alike
Mar 12 00:23:53 <mod6>	depends on the scale. at the plank scale everything is a different
Mar 12 00:24:06 <mod6>	s/a//
Mar 12 00:24:13 <mod6>	so there is a 1mb limit now?
Mar 12 00:24:49 <dub>	no theres a 250k limit
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Mar 12 00:26:13 <smickles>	mod6: i thought all electrons were indistinguishable as far as our best tech can tell
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Mar 12 00:27:02 <smickles>	and the wiki says that electrons can't be distinguished even in principle
Mar 12 00:27:07 <mod6>	uhhh, i dunno
Mar 12 00:27:17 <mod6>	if its on the internet it must be true
Mar 12 00:27:45 <smickles>	it's stuff i recall from studying science tho
Mar 12 00:28:09 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 00:28:09 <gribble>	0.802029 seconds
Mar 12 00:28:15 <dub>	<smickles> PeterL: it was the anti-SD'ers who forced this issue
Mar 12 00:28:16 <dub>	wat
Mar 12 00:28:21 <mod6>	im not trying to troll, i don't know srsly.
Mar 12 00:28:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 12 00:28:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.64974, Best ask: 44.87125, Bid-ask spread: 0.22151, Last trade: 44.88000, 24 hour volume: 126419.84432523, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.49347
Mar 12 00:29:08 <smickles>	dub: this would not have happened now if people were not encouraging pool ops to raise the soft limit on block size because of 'satoshiDice spam'
Mar 12 00:29:43 <dub>	uh they had to raise it
Mar 12 00:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	no
Mar 12 00:29:48 <dub>	because of the dice spam
Mar 12 00:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	it would have happened later
Mar 12 00:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	when it'd have been worse.
Mar 12 00:30:07 <smickles>	or after it got caught in testing
Mar 12 00:30:17 <smickles>	and had no issue at all
Mar 12 00:30:21 <smickles>	who knows
Mar 12 00:30:33 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. right.
Mar 12 00:30:36 <dub>	the soft limit was hit
Mar 12 00:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	because bitcoin is tested.
Mar 12 00:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 there always was a 1mb limit
Mar 12 00:31:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: they do do a little on the testnet, it's just that the queue of stuff to test is long, and noone want's to help out
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Mar 12 00:31:45 <smickles>	dub: http://blockchain.info/block-index/357948/000000000000015c50b165fcdd33556f8b44800c5298943ac70b112df480c023 the soft limit was raised
Mar 12 00:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 12 00:31:53 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 12 seconds
Mar 12 00:31:58 <smickles>	that's the offending block
Mar 12 00:32:02 <jurov>	uff, coinbr back online
Mar 12 00:32:16 <dub>	smickles: yes it was raised to accomodate dice
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Mar 12 00:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	france
Mar 12 00:32:28 <mircea_popescu>	should have known
Mar 12 00:32:36 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: 23 minutes on the .7 chain
Mar 12 00:32:56 <smickles>	dub: we weren't hitting the softcap that offten
Mar 12 00:33:05 <mircea_popescu>	smickles maybe they'll merge then
Mar 12 00:33:24 <dub>	smickles: yes we were, there was 4000 unconfirmed txn when the call went out to up the limit
Mar 12 00:33:43 <dub>	smickles: it became a problem when dice increased their fee
Mar 12 00:33:55 <dub>	pushing everyone else out of the way
Mar 12 00:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	right
Mar 12 00:33:59 <smickles>	hmm, i recall there being thousands of unconfirmed txns for months and months
Mar 12 00:34:07 <dub>	smickles: yeah dice txns
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Mar 12 00:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	size 980kb nice block lol
Mar 12 00:34:45 <dub>	which everyone was used to living with, when it suddenly turned into mom and pop's txns taking days to confirm somethign had tobe done
Mar 12 00:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	dub mom and pop need to stfu and pay for tx
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Mar 12 00:35:15 <dub>	yes but they didn't know that
Mar 12 00:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 12 00:35:23 <dub>	had no forewarning
Mar 12 00:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	its on the interwebs so its free etc.
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Mar 12 00:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	not like iot says right there, "put a little tx fee, it helps the network" etc
Mar 12 00:35:59 <dub>	so sayign teh anti-dice crew are responsible is wrong
Mar 12 00:36:21 <smickles>	dub: i can see that we disagree, but i don't think the limit should be raised until the necessary txfee is unreasonably high
Mar 12 00:36:26 <mircea_popescu>	the idiots are responsible.
Mar 12 00:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 12 00:36:31 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 39.76255342 / 44.74483325 / 53.27237035 (65320 shares, 22,376.48 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 12 00:36:42 <mircea_popescu>	heh 44
Mar 12 00:36:57 <smickles>	dub: and i don't think i said they were responsible, i said they forced the issue
Mar 12 00:37:14 <dub>	anti-dice would be work to exclude their tsn not increas the limit
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Mar 12 00:37:37 <smickles>	some were saying that, some were saying raise the limit
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Mar 12 00:39:15 <benkay>	what's the mtgox lag command?
Mar 12 00:39:21 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 00:39:21 <benkay>	;;lag
Mar 12 00:39:21 <gribble>	0.156882 seconds
Mar 12 00:39:22 <gribble>	Error: "lag" is not a valid command.
Mar 12 00:39:26 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 00:39:26 <gribble>	1.148831 seconds
Mar 12 00:39:28 <benkay>	cool thanks.
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Mar 12 00:43:49 <benkay>	"antifragility"
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Mar 12 00:46:33 <benkay>	what was the delay between blockchain fork and broadcast?
Mar 12 00:46:46 <benkay>	i bet < 5 minutes
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Mar 12 00:47:37 <dub>	broadcast?
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Mar 12 00:48:02 <smickles>	$mpexlag
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Mar 12 00:48:03 <mpexbot>	smickles: 0.0727469921112 seconds
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Mar 12 00:48:27 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: ^^
Mar 12 00:49:06 <dub>	was there an alert sent to 0.8? I don't see it in .7
Mar 12 00:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 12 00:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 12 00:49:22 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.103024959564 seconds
Mar 12 00:49:26 <smickles>	benkay: it was less than 6 block according to one claim by someone in -dev
Mar 12 00:49:30 <mircea_popescu>	dude this will be so humiliating to mtgox
Mar 12 00:49:36 <mircea_popescu>	thing about it, you're getting it through 2 proxies
Mar 12 00:49:47 <benkay>	naw man
Mar 12 00:49:52 <benkay>	rubes don't care
Mar 12 00:50:00 <benkay>	they have a fancy website
Mar 12 00:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 12 00:50:16 <benkay>	oh wait, you said "humiliating"
Mar 12 00:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	and they're bringing the clap to wallstreet
Mar 12 00:50:23 <benkay>	yeah maybe.
Mar 12 00:50:42 <benkay>	i hope morgan and co drop the ball hard
Mar 12 00:51:06 <benkay>	be a shame to see the us consolidate under their iron grip
Mar 12 00:51:20 <topace_>	bitcoind listtransactions bitches abotu safe mode, is there a way to tell it to just show me the transactions anyways?
Mar 12 00:51:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i cant see wall st investing in something that is controlled by devs in IRC
Mar 12 00:51:54 <benkay>	"wall st" != jp
Mar 12 00:52:23 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 12 00:52:24 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.104865074158 seconds
Mar 12 00:52:24 <pigeons>	topace_: bitcoind -disablesafemode
Mar 12 00:52:33 <mircea_popescu>	topace_ careful with that one
Mar 12 00:53:10 <BingoBongo>	;;wallstreet
Mar 12 00:53:10 <gribble>	Error: "wallstreet" is not a valid command.
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Mar 12 00:53:28 <Ukto>	topace: at least you didnt freeze trading :D
Mar 12 00:53:45 <topace_>	yea, no need to do that :p
Mar 12 00:53:53 <Ukto>	i found that funny >,>
Mar 12 00:54:13 <smickles>	who freezed trading?
Mar 12 00:54:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 1000 @ 0.08731834 = 87.3183 BTC [+]
Mar 12 00:54:15 <Ukto>	i suppose its an okay response to kneejerk reaction
Mar 12 00:54:19 <Ukto>	btct
Mar 12 00:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 1000 @ 0.10970785 = 109.7079 BTC [+]
Mar 12 00:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 12 00:55:08 <smickles>	geez, we're still 9 blocks from a re-org
Mar 12 00:55:09 <Ukto>	having tie-ins with ozco's systems, and others, my system keeps a close eye on all transactions lol
Mar 12 00:55:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 39 / 1.109
Mar 12 00:55:21 <gribble>	35.1668169522
Mar 12 00:55:26 <mircea_popescu>	35 ? srsly ?
Mar 12 00:55:33 <Ukto>	pools offline
Mar 12 00:55:37 <Ukto>	and/or miners
Mar 12 00:55:55 <Ukto>	only those pools who were properly setup/unefected continue
Mar 12 00:55:55 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: we had a double top and a crisis. we're going to 2
Mar 12 00:55:59 <Ukto>	like.. ozco :P
Mar 12 00:56:12 <Ukto>	who didnt set their block size to 1bazillion
Mar 12 00:56:14 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: what are you calculating there?
Mar 12 00:56:40 <smickles>	benkay: break even of a put
Mar 12 00:56:45 <topace_>	225445 still the top of the 0.7 ? my 0.8 client still shows 225453
Mar 12 00:56:52 <benkay>	what's the 1.109? interest rate?
Mar 12 00:57:00 <smickles>	topace_: yeah
Mar 12 00:57:00 <benkay>	oh, cost?
Mar 12 00:57:06 <benkay>	shit this is embarrassing.
Mar 12 00:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	benkay what those puts imply pricewise
Mar 12 00:57:19 <smickles>	benkay: 1+cost
Mar 12 00:57:35 <topace_>	smickles:so the 0.8 clients wont switch until the height is more?
Mar 12 00:57:47 <smickles>	topace_: yea
Mar 12 00:57:55 <smickles>	1 more
Mar 12 00:58:01 <topace_>	cool im going to bed then, lol
Mar 12 00:58:03 <smickles>	er, 1 more than the current
Mar 12 00:58:06 <benkay>	thanks you two
Mar 12 00:58:14 <smickles>	so , 9 more blocks to go
Mar 12 00:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	still at 8 ?
Mar 12 01:00:05 <smickles>	yeah, still 8 blocks different
Mar 12 01:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 12 01:00:36 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 hour, 31 minutes, and 55 seconds
Mar 12 01:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	at least that didn't move.
Mar 12 01:01:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.38403908 = 384.0391 BTC [+]
Mar 12 01:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.34210801 = 342.108 BTC [+]
Mar 12 01:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.30194268 = 301.9427 BTC [+]
Mar 12 01:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.26374232 = 263.7423 BTC [+]
Mar 12 01:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	shorts covering
Mar 12 01:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.22771516 = 227.7152 BTC [+]
Mar 12 01:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	smickles maybe you're right
Mar 12 01:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	!m ^oix
Mar 12 01:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 12 01:02:33 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i only have a self taught understanding of technicals and i see it, so people who trade on technicals probably see it too and are taking action
Mar 12 01:03:03 <assbot>	It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money.
Mar 12 01:03:20 <pizzaman1337>	$mpexlag
Mar 12 01:03:22 <mpexbot>	pizzaman1337: 0.0712060928345 seconds
Mar 12 01:04:35 <the-bucket-shop>	peter - if satoshi dice can land some press out of this, then probably there will be some more betting next few weeks.
Mar 12 01:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	"s.dice grows too large for bitcoin"
Mar 12 01:05:01 <mod6>	omg she is just gloating over here lol, she's been calling 'em mario coins since day one.
Mar 12 01:05:26 <mircea_popescu>	who lol
Mar 12 01:05:28 <mod6>	she's like, "oh gonna go play more dungons and dragons 'eh...."
Mar 12 01:05:34 <mod6>	my gf
Mar 12 01:05:40 <mod6>	she's a btc hater
Mar 12 01:05:48 <mod6>	and now shes gloating
Mar 12 01:06:37 <mod6>	:/
Mar 12 01:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	lo
Mar 12 01:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	l
Mar 12 01:07:20 <the-bucket-shop>	mp s.dice grows too large for bitcoin sounds way better than "bitcoin is forked"  btc people who talk to the press have no option but to blame satoshidice very loudly.
Mar 12 01:07:44 <the-bucket-shop>	I'm an s.dice shareholder btw
Mar 12 01:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	heh
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Mar 12 01:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	sure, blame canada why not.
Mar 12 01:08:14 <maximian>	good thing this happened now and not when the market cap is $5B
Mar 12 01:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	maximian if the idiots hadn't put in the 250k limit it would have jhappened and been resolved in 2011
Mar 12 01:08:36 <Chaang-Noi>	nice to see the gap getting shorter
Mar 12 01:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	when you know... 1 single block would have caused it, it'd have been immediately noticed but no forking
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Mar 12 01:08:59 <the-bucket-shop>	I'm sure this stuff will happen at $5B too.  that's like the size of the New York School district
Mar 12 01:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5949999 BTC [+]
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Mar 12 01:09:23 <Chaang-Noi>	mp the idots was satoshi, he just assumed we would change it later
Mar 12 01:09:27 <smickles>	8 blocks to go
Mar 12 01:09:30 <Chaang-Noi>	they did it to protect from spamming
Mar 12 01:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	the-bucket-shop basically it will happen indefinitely for as long as we have a devteam that mostly works at trying to play government.
Mar 12 01:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi i don't care what the excuse is.
Mar 12 01:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	they did it because their heads don't work.
Mar 12 01:10:00 <mod6>	he's not an idiot. he was very smart, if these new idiots can't hack their way out of a wet paper sack, thats not really his fault.
Mar 12 01:10:07 *	mircea_popescu rage
Mar 12 01:10:13 <Chaang-Noi>	in the frist few months someone could ahve attacked it with spam and killed it, who is to say that would not have happened?
Mar 12 01:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	dude first frw months
Mar 12 01:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	it is 2013 have some mercy
Mar 12 01:10:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i agree it should ahve been changed by now
Mar 12 01:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	long by!
Mar 12 01:10:42 <Chaang-Noi>	but having it in the first place was a good idea
Mar 12 01:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	jesus i'm clueless about bitcoin internals.
Mar 12 01:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	if it gets to the point where i am raising objections and they make sense
Mar 12 01:10:59 <Chaang-Noi>	honestly this issue is one of the reasons i went so hard core into ltc
Mar 12 01:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	IT IS WAY TOO LONG
Mar 12 01:11:14 <Chaang-Noi>	and that was over a year ago...
Mar 12 01:11:29 <kakobrekla>	how does ltc fix that ?
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Mar 12 01:11:47 <Chaang-Noi>	faster blocks can fit more transactions
Mar 12 01:12:09 <Chaang-Noi>	also i have more faith in the ltc pools to change this cuz it is a small network now
Mar 12 01:12:22 <Chaang-Noi>	we can fix it with out too much issue, and i ahve been trying to get peole to move
Mar 12 01:12:24 <pigeons>	well the bdb index lock bug isnt only triggered by pure # of transactions
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Mar 12 01:12:49 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons it is size of the blocks right?
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Mar 12 01:12:52 <pigeons>	no
Mar 12 01:12:57 <Chaang-Noi>	what is it then?
Mar 12 01:12:57 <pigeons>	not directly
Mar 12 01:13:07 <Chaang-Noi>	well indirectly then
Mar 12 01:13:15 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 12 01:13:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.01200, Best ask: 45.35277, Bid-ask spread: 0.34077, Last trade: 45.42658, 24 hour volume: 129864.74982214, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.47226
Mar 12 01:14:02 <pigeons>	to say that litecoin is in anyway better on this issue is ridiculous
Mar 12 01:14:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 275 @ 0.38399185 = 105.5978 BTC [-]
Mar 12 01:14:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 275 @ 0.34205951 = 94.0664 BTC [-]
Mar 12 01:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	hm.
Mar 12 01:14:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 275 @ 0.30189328 = 83.0207 BTC [-]
Mar 12 01:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 275 @ 0.26369245 = 72.5154 BTC [-]
Mar 12 01:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps things are actually settling down ?
Mar 12 01:14:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 12 01:14:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 275 @ 0.22766534 = 62.608 BTC [-]
Mar 12 01:14:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.01200, Best ask: 45.42580, Bid-ask spread: 0.41380, Last trade: 45.42600, 24 hour volume: 129868.46652021, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.47196
Mar 12 01:14:38 <benkay>	how are the chain size and this recent fork related?
Mar 12 01:15:09 <pigeons>	benkay: not chain size, block size
Mar 12 01:15:59 <benkay>	okay
Mar 12 01:16:29 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons you have not explained what you think the issue is yet you say what i said is silly... it is hard to attack a point you wont state
Mar 12 01:16:44 <benkay>	what's this referring to: mircea_popescu: maximian if the idiots hadn't put in the 250k limit it would have jhappened and been resolved in 2011
Mar 12 01:17:32 <mircea_popescu>	benkay the presence of a 250k arbitrary block limit
Mar 12 01:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	prevented the underlying problem of the db from being discovered
Mar 12 01:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	until that moment when a perfect storm composed out of a db upgrade and the limit removal
Mar 12 01:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	created two almost equal miner bases
Mar 12 01:18:08 <benkay>	oh i see, chain size and this fork i are idiots
Mar 12 01:18:11 <mircea_popescu>	this could have easily been avoided by simply not relying on magic numbers.
Mar 12 01:18:26 <benkay>	heh
Mar 12 01:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	and it will ever be the case that whenever code contains a number based on an assumption
Mar 12 01:18:33 <benkay>	developers hate unconstrained systems
Mar 12 01:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	that code wuill break spectacularly.
Mar 12 01:18:42 <Bowjob>	3.00% fee of CaVirtex
Mar 12 01:18:46 <Bowjob>	thats steep
Mar 12 01:18:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 3 @ 0.15129407 = 0.4539 BTC [+]
Mar 12 01:19:29 <kakobrekla>	it can be constrained to 2tb for start
Mar 12 01:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	it's just not how you code.
Mar 12 01:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	0, 1, infinity.
Mar 12 01:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	that's the motherfucking rule.
Mar 12 01:21:49 <topace_>	Bowjob: cavirtex is only 3% to start with, its volume based... pretty easy to get down tto 1%
Mar 12 01:21:51 <topace_>	or even 0.5%
Mar 12 01:22:13 <smickles>	$mpex lag
Mar 12 01:22:17 <smickles>	$mpexlag
Mar 12 01:22:19 <mpexbot>	smickles: 0.10756111145 seconds
Mar 12 01:22:28 <Bowjob>	dont i get charged per trade?
Mar 12 01:22:36 <Bowjob>	so I have to keep trading until I bring it down to 1%
Mar 12 01:22:58 <pigeons>	yeah it was .5% for its first couple years but couldnt make any money + scammers
Mar 12 01:23:23 <pigeons>	that interac email transfer thing was a mistake
Mar 12 01:23:27 <Chaang-Noi>	some trolling fun if you are up for it http://buttcoin.org/bitcoin-has-forked-markets-are-fucked-massive-sell-off-ship-is-sinking
Mar 12 01:23:31 <Bowjob>	mhm yah thevolume isnt that high on virtex
Mar 12 01:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi the something bawwwfull crowd... btc goes 15 to 45, they're like whelp
Mar 12 01:24:27 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin goes 45 to 40 for 15 minutes... omg MUST MAKE ALL THE POSTS
Mar 12 01:24:38 <smickles>	pigeons: check your $mail
Mar 12 01:24:42 <smickles>	pigeons: check your $email
Mar 12 01:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	tomorrow it'll be like... what, nothing happened. so what if it's 50. doesn't prove anything
Mar 12 01:24:45 <smickles>	imean
Mar 12 01:25:02 <Chaang-Noi>	mp yeah 15 to 45, then a short dip to 38 and they are like, told you its over, lulz
Mar 12 01:26:19 <smickles>	uh oh, badchain got longer
Mar 12 01:26:47 <Bowjob>	whos mining on badchain
Mar 12 01:27:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 12 01:27:04 <gribble>	Time since last block: 9 minutes and 53 seconds
Mar 12 01:27:06 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Mar 12 01:29:30 <error4733>	make sens
Mar 12 01:31:08 <maximian>	;;ticker
Mar 12 01:31:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.00000, Best ask: 46.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 46.25000, 24 hour volume: 132000.71686851, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.48727
Mar 12 01:31:18 <maximian>	panic! oh wait...
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Mar 12 01:42:35 <mod6>	;;tslb
Mar 12 01:42:40 <gribble>	Time since last block: 25 minutes and 29 seconds
Mar 12 01:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	so what's best case scenario here, something like 16 blocks chain orphaned ?
Mar 12 01:44:14 <mod6>	oh looks like btcguild got another
Mar 12 01:44:17 <mod6>	;;tslb
Mar 12 01:44:20 <gribble>	Time since last block: 27 minutes and 9 seconds
Mar 12 01:44:26 <mod6>	oh wtf
Mar 12 01:44:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 12 01:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 this is the bad chain gribble sees
Mar 12 01:44:55 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225454 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 337 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 23 hours, 34 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4838985.15316 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.78577
Mar 12 01:44:57 <Chaang-Noi>	back to 27, oh lulz btc. how you troll us
Mar 12 01:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 12 01:45:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.46002, Best ask: 46.75436, Bid-ask spread: 0.29434, Last trade: 46.93566, 24 hour volume: 134874.62479342, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.53366
Mar 12 01:45:19 <Chaang-Noi>	https://coinbase.com/network/blocks    us this
Mar 12 01:45:24 <Chaang-Noi>	use*
Mar 12 01:45:39 <Chaang-Noi>	it has been 44 mins
Mar 12 01:45:48 <ThickAsThieves>	https://blockchain.info/blocks
Mar 12 01:46:10 <Bowjob>	im not sure how to interpret the data
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Mar 12 01:46:15 <Bowjob>	so.. are we all good then?
Mar 12 01:46:30 <ThickAsThieves>	we want the "orphaned" one to win I believe
Mar 12 01:46:43 <Bowjob>	oh god
Mar 12 01:47:19 <ThickAsThieves>	it'll be a few hours i guess
Mar 12 01:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.msg1614614#msg1614614
Mar 12 01:47:28 <Bowjob>	who is mining on 0.8 then?
Mar 12 01:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	consensus emerges.
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Mar 12 01:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin devs to stop all development of new versions, work on bitcoin specification exclusively, then release one cleanned up bitcoin version.
Mar 12 01:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	an' take it from there.
Mar 12 01:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 12 01:49:35 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.110903978348 seconds
Mar 12 01:49:45 <Bowjob>	BFL should atone for their sins and mine with the ASICs if they have them and help save the network
Mar 12 01:50:28 <ThickAsThieves>	overall this still lowers difficulty next round a little right?
Mar 12 01:50:38 <maximian>	Bowjob the network is being saved right now…. it's just taking some time because hashing power is split between two chains.
Mar 12 01:50:41 <ThickAsThieves>	they had to remine blocks right?
Mar 12 01:50:53 <ThickAsThieves>	and a portion of the hashing is still going to dead blocks
Mar 12 01:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes it does
Mar 12 01:50:57 <Bowjob>	yeah but who is mining on 0.8 still?
Mar 12 01:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	diff shall have a hole in it
Mar 12 01:51:04 <Bowjob>	they have no clue?
Mar 12 01:51:27 <ThickAsThieves>	people sleep
Mar 12 01:51:29 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob prolly p2pool
Mar 12 01:51:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i wanna sleep
Mar 12 01:51:56 <Bowjob>	sleep?
Mar 12 01:51:57 <Bowjob>	whats that
Mar 12 01:51:58 <ThickAsThieves>	but i also wanna watch the fireworks
Mar 12 01:53:03 <ThickAsThieves>	so this is good for asicminer(s), they get an extra day of lower diff, maybe more
Mar 12 01:53:18 <BitHub>	whens the nev div due?
Mar 12 01:53:22 <BitHub>	40 hours?
Mar 12 01:53:24 <ThickAsThieves>	wed/thu
Mar 12 01:53:36 <BitHub>	sweeet
Mar 12 01:53:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 12 01:53:44 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225454 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 337 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 23 hours, 34 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4838985.15316 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.78577
Mar 12 01:53:48 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves they are the largest losers mining on dead chain
Mar 12 01:54:00 <BingoBongo>	Interesting how p2pool was supposed to "prevent network centralization" seems to be doing the job...
Mar 12 01:54:08 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer is on the main chain, btcguild
Mar 12 01:54:21 <Bowjob>	so basically if i get this right, those mining on 0.8 are wasting their time
Mar 12 01:54:30 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 12 01:54:37 <ThickAsThieves>	their blocks will never get confirmed
Mar 12 01:54:56 <Bowjob>	by "main" you mean 0.7
Mar 12 01:54:57 <ThickAsThieves>	unless they fork intentionally...
Mar 12 01:55:24 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 12 01:55:33 <BitHub>	any press conference release statements from the devs yet?
Mar 12 01:55:33 <ThickAsThieves>	the one with majority hashing power
Mar 12 01:55:44 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo exactly.
Mar 12 01:55:48 <ThickAsThieves>	essentially btcguild and the other big ones are doing a 51% attack
Mar 12 01:55:59 <ThickAsThieves>	to go back to the .7 chain
Mar 12 01:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves and it's not trivial to get the fuck off .8
Mar 12 01:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	because you'll need old chain
Mar 12 01:56:12 <kakobrekla>	eleuretheria or whatever wants his coins back
Mar 12 01:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla that poor guy you know ?
Mar 12 01:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	fucked by .8 x2
Mar 12 01:56:38 <kakobrekla>	yea
Mar 12 01:56:41 <Bowjob>	skip the 0.8
Mar 12 01:56:47 <Bowjob>	next release should be 0.9
Mar 12 01:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	NEXT TIME devs want ppl to upgrade ppl will be like
Mar 12 01:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	"sure, got escrow ?"
Mar 12 01:56:58 <ThickAsThieves>	too bad for him, but maybe now he'll have better protocol for changing his software
Mar 12 01:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	yea. as in, not change it.
Mar 12 01:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	perfect protocol.
Mar 12 01:57:46 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice can support the forked chain for bet processing
Mar 12 01:57:59 <kakobrekla>	im lucky bitbet runs 0.72
Mar 12 01:58:23 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume my bet was rejected
Mar 12 01:58:30 <Bowjob>	gah btc is very complicated lol
Mar 12 01:58:57 <ThickAsThieves>	bet idea*
Mar 12 02:00:05 <kakobrekla>	no idea
Mar 12 02:00:09 <kakobrekla>	a
Mar 12 02:00:13 <BingoBongo>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 12 02:00:13 <kakobrekla>	not processed yet
Mar 12 02:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 39.70080218 / 44.63179932 / 53.27201335 (66598 shares, 22,713.19 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 12 02:00:25 <kakobrekla>	but dunno if it fits the rules
Mar 12 02:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves give bets a day or so
Mar 12 02:00:49 <mod6>	i have 0.7.1 ...
Mar 12 02:01:06 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu he wants to do these meta bets
Mar 12 02:01:19 <ThickAsThieves>	np, just interested to see if it fits within rules
Mar 12 02:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	well whatever he wants, if you don't see it in a day it's prolly been rejected
Mar 12 02:02:17 <rodeo>	Once the ophaned chain take over again BTCguild will get > 10 blocks I wounder how they will credit it
Mar 12 02:03:05 <ThickAsThieves>	proportionally, like always?
Mar 12 02:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	ironic that the end result of the Luke-Jr & co group of idiots starting their little jihad on s.dice
Mar 12 02:04:10 <mircea_popescu>	will be the extinction of their c++ only "refernece" implementation and in general the end of their centralist chokehold on bitcoin
Mar 12 02:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the lesson here is that programmers have no business arguing with financiers.
Mar 12 02:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	won't be learned tho, i bet.
Mar 12 02:06:03 <ThickAsThieves>	almost done
Mar 12 02:06:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Mar 12 02:06:13 <gribble>	Time since last block: 49 minutes and 1 second
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Mar 12 02:11:28 <Chaang-Noi>	last 3 blocks were prphaned, ??? not good?
Mar 12 02:11:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.00181 = 0.181 BTC [+]
Mar 12 02:11:57 <Chaang-Noi>	https://coinbase.com/network/blocks   last 3 blocks? wtf?
Mar 12 02:12:44 <maximian>	they're part of the 0.7 chain
Mar 12 02:12:49 <maximian>	it's catching up
Mar 12 02:13:38 <maximian>	just two more blocks and it'll be the main chain
Mar 12 02:14:44 <ThickAsThieves>	tied now
Mar 12 02:14:54 <Bowjob>	yay. go 51% attack
Mar 12 02:16:32 *	BingoBongo throws all my 11mH/s on the 0.8 chain, because principle
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Mar 12 02:16:51 <ThickAsThieves>	well i see one problem
Mar 12 02:16:57 <ThickAsThieves>	my balance on btc-e
Mar 12 02:17:00 <ThickAsThieves>	-18
Mar 12 02:17:11 <ThickAsThieves>	should be about 0
Mar 12 02:17:35 <Bowjob>	ah.. btc-e. I lose my mind on that trollbox
Mar 12 02:17:40 <ThickAsThieves>	same on other exchanges
Mar 12 02:17:41 <Bowjob>	its bad for my health
Mar 12 02:17:45 <ThickAsThieves>	negative balance
Mar 12 02:17:58 <ThickAsThieves>	whoa
Mar 12 02:18:06 <ThickAsThieves>	a bunch of incoming deposits
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Mar 12 02:22:30 <maximian>	so it's all over
Mar 12 02:24:04 <kakobrekla>	at least we had some good drama ya know
Mar 12 02:24:41 <Bowjob>	so thats it? crisis averted?
Mar 12 02:25:00 <maximian>	yep
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Mar 12 02:25:13 <BingoBongo>	Crisis averted, drama unleased.
Mar 12 02:25:14 <maximian>	now come the personal attacks, panic selling, etc
Mar 12 02:25:30 <maximian>	but bitcoin marches on
Mar 12 02:25:45 <rodeo>	I thought the ending was a bit anti climatic
Mar 12 02:26:11 <Bowjob>	Aight, preparing fiat
Mar 12 02:26:22 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 12 02:26:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.05186, Best ask: 45.05187, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 45.05187, 24 hour volume: 136276.60628425, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.54592
Mar 12 02:26:32 <maximian>	big forks have happened before, not really a big deal
Mar 12 02:26:52 <BingoBongo>	It's not the ending. It is the opening chapter in the Latest DLC. BitCoin: Mission Standardization
Mar 12 02:27:00 <Bowjob>	I printed an order page for topace, but then hes like nope. dont transact
Mar 12 02:27:10 <Bowjob>	so my free option didnt work out
Mar 12 02:27:11 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 12 02:27:34 <maximian>	the tech blogs will have a field day with this. orgasming over the opportunity to spread some FUD
Mar 12 02:27:54 <maximian>	I think we can expect the exchange rate to be depressed for a while.
Mar 12 02:27:57 <Ukto>	well, as I stated before.. weex wallet is the perfect example of correctnes
Mar 12 02:28:11 <ThickAsThieves>	here it goes
Mar 12 02:28:12 <Ukto>	wonder what other sites are like :P
Mar 12 02:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;tslb
Mar 12 02:29:08 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 50 seconds
Mar 12 02:30:17 <ThickAsThieves>	so will there be a mass selloff afte rpeople get their btc to gox?
Mar 12 02:30:22 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 12 02:30:40 <maximian>	yeah, lots of nervous nellies out there
Mar 12 02:30:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 12 02:30:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.99646, Best ask: 44.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00354, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 137786.72229724, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.54643
Mar 12 02:30:47 <maximian>	people who don't understand the system… pure speculators
Mar 12 02:31:18 <Bowjob>	I'm watching from coinlab
Mar 12 02:31:38 <ThickAsThieves>	me too
Mar 12 02:31:40 <pigeons>	you're at coinlab? or coinlab has an actual product out?
Mar 12 02:31:54 <ThickAsThieves>	a fancy ticker
Mar 12 02:31:59 <ThickAsThieves>	and a working goxwall
Mar 12 02:32:06 *	Ukto tickers ThickAsThieves
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Mar 12 02:32:19 <ThickAsThieves>	and of course the Buy $1m button
Mar 12 02:32:20 <pigeons>	cant be fancier than clarkmoody?
Mar 12 02:32:26 <Bowjob>	http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=bitcoin-assets
Mar 12 02:32:29 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 12 02:32:30 <Bowjob>	45
Mar 12 02:32:34 <Bowjob>	Bulls fighting back?
Mar 12 02:32:38 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 12 02:32:42 <ThickAsThieves>	it wont last
Mar 12 02:32:46 <Bowjob>	I'd let the bears have a go at it for now
Mar 12 02:32:47 <ThickAsThieves>	people just waiting for confirms
Mar 12 02:32:51 <Bowjob>	oh
Mar 12 02:32:52 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 12 02:36:59 <BingoBongo>	I imagine there's a large low information"Investor" population that through inertia or ignorance recognizes what a small hiccup this should have been... When they start looking for people to inform them though....
Mar 12 02:39:02 <Chaang-Noi>	so did we fix yet?
Mar 12 02:39:08 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 12 02:39:10 <pigeons>	just waiting for you to reboot
Mar 12 02:39:28 <Bowjob>	wheres that gif of this anime chick drinking coffee
Mar 12 02:39:30 <Chaang-Noi>	awesome thanks
Mar 12 02:39:32 <BingoBongo>	I'm making a trip to the Pawn Shop tomorrow and loading up on fiat for the opportunity that should arise these next few weeks. The DFI I use is indicating a "correction" to $15-$35 within 2 or 3 weeks, confidence interval of 66.7%
Mar 12 02:40:01 <pigeons>	partly cloudy, chance of rain
Mar 12 02:40:25 <BingoBongo>	EH, its just the Drama FUD Index
Mar 12 02:40:48 <pigeons>	omg! bitcoin didnt die! buy!
Mar 12 02:42:06 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 12 02:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 12 02:42:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.16000, Best ask: 44.43000, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 44.54000, 24 hour volume: 137292.69111752, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.50843
Mar 12 02:43:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not sure if gox is fully open yet
Mar 12 02:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	so 24 blocks in the end.
Mar 12 02:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 24 * 25 * 48.47
Mar 12 02:43:48 <gribble>	29082
Mar 12 02:43:53 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 12 02:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	we just blew somalia's current week budget.
Mar 12 02:44:37 <BingoBongo>	That's about a used VW Phaeton
Mar 12 02:49:46 <Chaang-Noi>	mp lol
Mar 12 02:52:05 <BingoBongo>	Appear to be roughly the ask for this real estate http://www.trulia.com/property/3107337882-2640-Arsenal-St-Saint-Louis-MO-63118
Mar 12 02:53:20 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.msg1614847#msg1614847 <<
Mar 12 02:53:26 <mircea_popescu>	anybody here actually interested in this btw ?
Mar 12 02:53:46 <BitHub>	lulz mircea
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Mar 12 02:57:52 <BingoBongo>	Lulz Jeff G, How many support threads on that forum have ended in essentially: export your private keys and import into X software other than what you have been using
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Mar 12 03:03:41 <Bowjob>	If felt that we would have a tremendous rally today this bug didnt happen
Mar 12 03:03:52 <Bowjob>	oh well. i'll take what i can
Mar 12 03:03:59 <BingoBongo>	A software neutral specification has been needed for too long
Mar 12 03:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	i am starting to see that.
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Mar 12 03:07:59 <BingoBongo>	I give it probably 3 years for a full move from code control to stardardized and documented.
Mar 12 03:10:09 <BingoBongo>	There's the long fight over what the spec is, and then theres the awkward grace period until the spec forces people to leave the old code controlled version (unless crisis compells it earlier)
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Mar 12 03:11:03 <midnightmagic>	Probably not going to happen. People like mystical chains-of-heredity.
Mar 12 03:11:47 <midnightmagic>	It's in their nature--right beside the part that thinks god talks directly to them.
Mar 12 03:13:30 <BingoBongo>	Some things are more powerful than heredity
Mar 12 03:13:38 <Bowjob>	http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/343/462/79a.gif
Mar 12 03:15:51 <midnightmagic>	The magic Satoshi? You think the huge number of sociopaths running bitcoin are interested in an outside non-mystic taking the reins?
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Mar 12 03:16:54 <kakobrekla>	that bottle looks almost like a gun
Mar 12 03:16:59 <kakobrekla>	pointed at him
Mar 12 03:17:42 <BingoBongo>	Happier bottle http://i.imgur.com/jUQ6z.jpg?1
Mar 12 03:27:59 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo so five years ain't that bad.
Mar 12 03:28:24 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic i wouldbn't bet on "people" mattering
Mar 12 03:28:26 <mircea_popescu>	we are discussing money.
Mar 12 03:28:42 <midnightmagic>	people who use bitcoin are the people I'm talking about.
Mar 12 03:28:54 <midnightmagic>	they are who create the economy which bitcoin encompasses.
Mar 12 03:28:59 <mircea_popescu>	people who use bitcoin have not a fucking clue.
Mar 12 03:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	allow me to quote :
Mar 12 03:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	I think this means that bitcoin is in jeopardy.
Mar 12 03:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	and they hate mpex shares!
Mar 12 03:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	WHY ARENT the bitcoin police doing anything about these DDOS attacks?
Mar 12 03:29:37 <midnightmagic>	correct, they don't. the thing is a lot of them know that, so what do they do? social proof. and they pick a guy (like satoshi) and decide he is the nearest thing to god.
Mar 12 03:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	problem is the god is gone
Mar 12 03:30:15 <mircea_popescu>	and it left behind a coven of idiots.
Mar 12 03:30:25 <midnightmagic>	And he left a minor southern deity in charge.
Mar 12 03:30:25 <mircea_popescu>	the way things play out is popemassacre
Mar 12 03:30:55 <midnightmagic>	You know for someone who complains about it so much I'm surprised you're taking such an interest in leading a takeover.. :-)
Mar 12 03:31:07 <midnightmagic>	(and by surprised, I mean, "not very surprised")
Mar 12 03:31:24 <Ukto>	btw, bitfunder is 100% online. withdraws/ deposits
Mar 12 03:31:30 <Ukto>	you guys do okay? :)
Mar 12 03:31:35 <midnightmagic>	course.
Mar 12 03:31:40 <midnightmagic>	god talks to me. :)
Mar 12 03:31:45 <BingoBongo>	mircea_popescu Not at all. Maybe tie the definitive switch to standards only to the next halving? God is gone so let's send things to committee.
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Mar 12 03:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic im not leading anything, but i'm not standing for nonsensical crap either.
Mar 12 03:33:37 <midnightmagic>	You're trying to suggest you could be the lead of a Real bitcoin replacement. :)
Mar 12 03:33:59 <midnightmagic>	Or rather..  boob lady is. :)
Mar 12 03:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	not really. but i am saying that the current stuff has to go.
Mar 12 03:34:44 <mircea_popescu>	actually, i said it months ago.
Mar 12 03:34:52 <midnightmagic>	Yes I read that.
Mar 12 03:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	i said the moment devs try to act like priests and leverage the obscurity of their bad code into political theosophy... they're screwed.
Mar 12 03:35:17 <mircea_popescu>	i guess they don't read english any better than they read their own code.
Mar 12 03:35:51 <midnightmagic>	Actually, the reference implementation was never meant to be the end-all canonical version. Satoshi always hoped someone would write a properly-funded, properly engineered client and it would become the canonical client.
Mar 12 03:35:55 <midnightmagic>	(sort of
Mar 12 03:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	i am aware.
Mar 12 03:36:21 <midnightmagic>	I see no examples of political theosophy. You clearly have something in mind: out with it. :)
Mar 12 03:36:43 <mircea_popescu>	if you recall, this all started with people knowing which transactions are good.
Mar 12 03:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	and which usecases are acceptable.
Mar 12 03:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	and on and on.
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Mar 12 03:38:34 <midnightmagic>	I don't see how a rationale (which Satoshi himself started, btw, by requesting that Wikileaks not use bitcoin yet,) is the snowball accretion of full-blown theosophy.
Mar 12 03:38:54 <BingoBongo>	And mircea_popescu many will probably try to sweep it under the rug as LevelDB is broken, because it isn't BerkelyDB. You're on the right track, but I think this was probably the wrong error...
Mar 12 03:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo does it make much of a difference ?
Mar 12 03:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic wrong step on satoshi's part. let it be broken, rebuild. why protect it ?
Mar 12 03:39:53 <midnightmagic>	Currently, the best choice is sipa's blacklist patch, as it allows us to remain on the faster 0.8 while still mining.
Mar 12 03:40:00 <mircea_popescu>	if it's good it will prevail. if it sucks it will just crack and something else will come out of it
Mar 12 03:40:11 <BingoBongo>	mircea_popescu the difference is probably how much they will try to reiforce their canon against sense...
Mar 12 03:40:23 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: blockchain-destroying events tend to set back adoption progress amongst people who are afraid of what everyone else will think.
Mar 12 03:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic so ?
Mar 12 03:40:40 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: the bootstrapping itself is still going on.
Mar 12 03:40:55 <BingoBongo>	"Good" bitcoin will probably have to overtake old by 51% As worse overtook bad tonight
Mar 12 03:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	look, like it or not, for this reason or for some other reason, bitcoin is at a point where you can't reasonably pour more moneuy into it
Mar 12 03:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	before it's been specified.
Mar 12 03:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	if it can't be specified that's a dealbreaker
Mar 12 03:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	not such a huge notion this, is it ?
Mar 12 03:41:25 <midnightmagic>	BingoBongo: it will overtake depending on its technical and UX merits.
Mar 12 03:41:32 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo have you read the girl's explanation of why multiforks resolve and aren't a problem economically ?
Mar 12 03:42:08 <BingoBongo>	mircea_popescu I might have, I'll recheck her post history.
Mar 12 03:42:19 <midnightmagic>	BingoBongo: Think about it this way. uTorrent killed everything else on Windows.
Mar 12 03:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	in short : suppose chain forks into 3 different chains today, a b and c
Mar 12 03:42:39 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: On the same network?
Mar 12 03:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	if you had 10 bitcoins today prefork, you will have 10 a 10b and 10 c bitcoins after the fork.
Mar 12 03:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	if you sell b and buy a the price of all will go up and the price of b down.
Mar 12 03:43:10 <mircea_popescu>	eventually the fork resolves economically simply because mining costs money.
Mar 12 03:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	end of story. money itself is a centralising factor, and as such the slightest flicker amplifies
Mar 12 03:43:55 <midnightmagic>	bleah.. the crosschatter would be ridiculous..
Mar 12 03:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Mar 12 03:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	more drama, more market cap.
Mar 12 03:44:28 <BingoBongo>	Ah, this is kind of what I was thinking. I must have read without expressing the sentiment. I believe I've read similar on Trilema as well.
Mar 12 03:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	i think so.
Mar 12 03:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	to be perfectly candid, many people involved in bitcoin are good honest and well meaning individuals, who know about things. usually those things are coding.
Mar 12 03:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	there's a lot more to know than coding in thsi world.
Mar 12 03:45:10 <midnightmagic>	crosschatter and high-bandwidth reorg battles would hurt individual consensus. presume the forks are all equal hashrate to begin with: due to the nature of POW, it would be far, far worse in terms of strength against attack.
Mar 12 03:45:23 <midnightmagic>	(like way less than 1/3)
Mar 12 03:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic no. because attacker wouldn't know which to attack.
Mar 12 03:45:35 <BingoBongo>	midnightmagic Win32 killed everything on Windows... Crosschatter happened before, some altcoin late last year did it (no halving fork) and had to be euthanized.
Mar 12 03:45:37 <midnightmagic>	that's not the case.
Mar 12 03:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	or even... why.
Mar 12 03:46:00 <midnightmagic>	you must presume technical acumen on the part of the attacker.
Mar 12 03:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	technical yes.
Mar 12 03:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	but selecting the coin to attack is not a technical problem.
Mar 12 03:46:21 <mircea_popescu>	and you must never presume political acumen on the part of anyone.
Mar 12 03:46:25 <midnightmagic>	also economical savvy (as all attackers I have seen have been extremely insightful economically)
Mar 12 03:46:32 <midnightmagic>	you must when modelling attack.
Mar 12 03:46:40 <mircea_popescu>	here's a bomb for you midnightmagic :
Mar 12 03:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	if the devs were a little looser in the ass, would the sort of econ savvy attackers stay that side or join this side ?
Mar 12 03:47:00 <midnightmagic>	not godlike power, but intellectually perfect decisions, plus funded by $x dollars.
Mar 12 03:47:13 <midnightmagic>	I don't know what that means.
Mar 12 03:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	looser in the ass ? it means being used with being fucked in that orrifice.
Mar 12 03:48:19 <midnightmagic>	Yeah but what has that to do with anything? Is this your way of saying you're done arguing?
Mar 12 03:48:35 <midnightmagic>	"Argument stopper man!"
Mar 12 03:48:48 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Mar 12 03:48:48 <midnightmagic>	You could just say so, I'd stop.
Mar 12 03:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it doesn't convey, let me try another way.
Mar 12 03:49:04 <midnightmagic>	Okay.
Mar 12 03:49:36 <mircea_popescu>	suppose buttcoin has some devs that think all usecases are equally valid, and dorkcoin has some devs who believe using the coin for gambling is spam.
Mar 12 03:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	suppose there is one attacker such as you've modeled him.
Mar 12 03:49:49 <Anduck>	selling ASICMINER @ 0.76
Mar 12 03:49:51 <mircea_popescu>	which chain is getting attacked ?
Mar 12 03:49:54 <Anduck>	pm if interested
Mar 12 03:50:24 <pigeons>	by the way people dont think using bitcoin for gambling is spam, they think using bitcoin transactions to signal a lost bet is spam
Mar 12 03:50:29 <midnightmagic>	I'd preferentially attack the ones who appeared to be more philosophically aligned with the notion of attack.
Mar 12 03:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	same thing pigeons. as long as you're making that call your ass is too tight.
Mar 12 03:50:53 <midnightmagic>	Also, if the money is on the side of the all-use-cases-are-valid (i.e. gambling and drugs, hypothetically) then obviously the money is where the attacker goes.
Mar 12 03:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	live a little.
Mar 12 03:51:14 <pigeons>	ok maybe we should just encode files and upload them to the blockchain ala namecoin too
Mar 12 03:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic not so. you will be surprised to find attackers routinely forego hitting higher payoff cooler targets
Mar 12 03:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	to focus on the uncool ones.
Mar 12 03:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons if we shouldn't, there should not be call for doing it.
Mar 12 03:51:46 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Well, not in my personal experience. But perhaps that's out-of-date these days.
Mar 12 03:52:19 <midnightmagic>	The gambling servers at least are very popular targets. Extorting them is almost a Russian pastime.
Mar 12 03:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	that;s brancing the discussion off the germane path tho
Mar 12 03:52:43 <pigeons>	alpaca socks can only pay so much ransom
Mar 12 03:52:49 <midnightmagic>	^^ this
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Mar 12 03:53:12 <midnightmagic>	Even btcexpress preferred to leave his attacks on the altcoins.
Mar 12 03:53:27 <mircea_popescu>	sure, irrelevant ventures aren't part of the discussion, if bitcoin stays alpacca we're wasting our time with these concerns/
Mar 12 03:54:05 <midnightmagic>	..  but you defined the two choices earlier. I'm not agreeing that the choices match reality. I'm just hanging out in your hypothetical land because you invited me.
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Mar 12 03:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic that's fine, but you pervert the choices when you add riders such as "one is really vanishingly small"
Mar 12 03:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	or "neither are payment systems, but gaming servers"
Mar 12 03:54:51 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Mar 12 03:55:03 <midnightmagic>	Well if that's not what you meant, perhaps you should define things more narrowly. :)
Mar 12 03:55:22 <mircea_popescu>	just leave it stand as it is. the theoretical response to a 51% attack is that the attacker would make more by mining.
Mar 12 03:55:41 <mircea_popescu>	the same applies ideologically too. the network won't get attacked for as long as it manages to not stupidly offend.
Mar 12 03:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	keeping money ideologically neutral, implementing the old pecunia non olet
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Mar 12 03:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	is the main strategic purpose of having a devteam in the first place.
Mar 12 03:56:07 <midnightmagic>	I think gpumax is the counterexample to that assertion (that they'd make more by mining)
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Mar 12 03:56:37 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think so. gpumax dissapeared with pirate, as the sane people were saying back in february 2012.
Mar 12 03:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	completely unrelated topic, gpumax
Mar 12 03:57:24 <midnightmagic>	nah it's not. It's an example of hashrate for sale, and successfully for sale for that matter.
Mar 12 03:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	yes, for the purpose of covering a side attack
Mar 12 03:57:43 <mircea_popescu>	ie, pirate's confidence scam.
Mar 12 03:58:01 <midnightmagic>	I don't know why you say that.
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Mar 12 03:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 12 03:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	what, this is still disputed ?
Mar 12 03:58:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
Mar 12 03:58:59 <midnightmagic>	More likely it was a side-business for coin laundry, but none of the miners could ever (far as I know) figure out where the coins were coming *from*.
Mar 12 03:59:28 <midnightmagic>	That is, none of them were ever tainted.
Mar 12 03:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	be that as it may
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Mar 12 04:02:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.076 BTC [-]
Mar 12 04:04:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.00524 = 0.021 BTC [+]
Mar 12 04:04:36 <Ukto>	looks like trading on btct is back
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Mar 12 04:08:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.18 = 0.54 BTC [-]
Mar 12 04:14:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 12 04:16:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 25 @ 0.00193 = 0.0483 BTC [+]
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Mar 12 04:17:15 <Bowjob>	Massive sell off occuring
Mar 12 04:18:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 12 04:18:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.50000, Best ask: 43.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 43.00000, 24 hour volume: 143829.74796654, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.38319
Mar 12 04:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	10k, not so massive.
Mar 12 04:19:45 <Bowjob>	well, i watched it from 45, drop to 42.5 .. i see each cent dropping
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Mar 12 04:28:07 <Ukto>	https://bitfunder.com/editAssetProfile/CRYPTO.LTC now live
Mar 12 04:28:27 <Ukto>	Native LTC deposit/withdraw supported. "And as always. Has good day."
Mar 12 04:28:56 <kakobrekla>	unaffection comes to bitbet so naturally i wont be posting any signes.
Mar 12 04:29:54 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 12 04:29:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.51000, Best ask: 41.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.48900, Last trade: 41.99900, 24 hour volume: 146092.87031245, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.35230
Mar 12 04:29:56 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 04:29:57 <gribble>	23.174488 seconds
Mar 12 04:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 12 04:32:10 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.147304058075 seconds
Mar 12 04:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	no srsly
Mar 12 04:42:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5 @ 0.00073163 = 0.0037 BTC [-]
Mar 12 04:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5539 @ 0.00073162 = 4.0524 BTC [-]
Mar 12 04:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 456 @ 0.00072543 = 0.3308 BTC [-]
Mar 12 04:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	In Australia, IPv6 adoption is almost non-existent, reports Josh Taylor.
Mar 12 04:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	"It's about as bad as everywhere else on the planet, I guess, with the single exception of Romania," Asia Pacific Network Information Centre's chief scientist, Geoff Huston, said in an interview with ZDNet Australia.
Mar 12 04:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 12 04:57:11 <Anduck>	selling ASICMINER @ 0.76, pm me if interested (at btct.co ASICMINER-PT asks are at 0.7699)
Mar 12 04:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck you know about the tradebook ?
Mar 12 04:57:28 <Anduck>	no.
Mar 12 04:57:31 <Anduck>	....yeeees
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Mar 12 05:00:50 <Anduck>	;;view
Mar 12 05:00:51 <Anduck>	now!
Mar 12 05:00:51 <gribble>	#13970 Tue Mar 12 02:00:37 2013 Anduck SELL 48.0 ASICMINER-shares @ 0.76 1 (selling ASICMINER-shares at 0.76 btc each)
Mar 12 05:00:59 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 12 05:01:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.02622, Best ask: 44.09896, Bid-ask spread: 0.07274, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 149155.81495746, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.29673
Mar 12 05:07:39 <Olivius67>	Hi There :)
Mar 12 05:08:10 <Olivius67>	How can I have real volume numbers for bitcoin trades in SierraChart?
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Mar 12 05:10:06 <kakobrekla>	Olivius67 set the multiplier
Mar 12 05:10:24 <kakobrekla>	10:09.58 ( Enky ) for mtgox trades by 0.01
Mar 12 05:10:24 <kakobrekla>	10:10.13 ( Enky ) hit F5
Mar 12 05:10:24 <kakobrekla>	10:10.17 ( Enky ) advanced settings 2
Mar 12 05:10:31 <kakobrekla>	10:10.24 ( Enky ) multiplier set to 0.01
Mar 12 05:11:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [-]
Mar 12 05:13:08 <Olivius67>	kakobrekla: Value Per Point: ?
Mar 12 05:13:21 <kakobrekla>	go to #bit4x
Mar 12 05:13:26 <kakobrekla>	enky will tell you
Mar 12 05:14:01 <Olivius67>	ok thx :)
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Mar 12 05:25:52 <MJR_>	hi all
Mar 12 05:25:57 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Mar 12 05:25:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.68409, Best ask: 44.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.31591, Last trade: 43.68407, 24 hour volume: 150079.49651515, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.28824
Mar 12 05:31:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73511 BTC [-]
Mar 12 05:31:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7351 = 1.4702 BTC [-]
Mar 12 05:31:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.735 BTC [-]
Mar 12 05:34:20 <MJR_>	what happened to the hash rate?
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Mar 12 05:50:11 <MJR_>	wow it's quiet...too quiet
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Mar 12 05:55:02 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 12 05:55:05 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225475 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 316 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 18 hours, 50 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4835005.91707 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.69467
Mar 12 05:59:30 <MJR_>	hash rate is half what it was
Mar 12 06:00:31 <kakobrekla>	cause the number of blockchains doubled :D
Mar 12 06:00:41 <MJR_>	lol yeah
Mar 12 06:00:58 <MJR_>	think a lot of miners are still setting up
Mar 12 06:01:16 <MJR_>	wish I had had cash in at that point
Mar 12 06:09:40 <MJR_>	nice! I got filled on my contracts
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Mar 12 06:19:50 <dub>	;;ticker
Mar 12 06:19:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.03670, Best ask: 44.31275, Bid-ask spread: 0.27605, Last trade: 44.16336, 24 hour volume: 151512.48690065, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.24835
Mar 12 06:20:13 <dub>	unacceptable
Mar 12 06:20:51 <dub>	I taste 11 different expressions of the same malt
Mar 12 06:20:58 <dub>	and the price is not yet $2
Mar 12 06:22:24 <dub>	my favorite distillery no less
Mar 12 06:22:41 <MJR_>	what up dub
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Mar 12 06:23:21 <MJR_>	that's a lie
Mar 12 06:23:40 <MJR_>	nirvana oh me
Mar 12 06:24:53 <dub>	http://www.thebalvenie.com/
Mar 12 06:37:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00530012 = 2.6501 BTC [-]
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Mar 12 06:38:46 <Chaang-Noi>	the forum having issues or just me?
Mar 12 06:39:46 <dub>	im having issues trying to ditchs.deuce
Mar 12 06:40:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 81 @ 0.00530011 = 0.4293 BTC [-]
Mar 12 06:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.0053 = 4.24 BTC [-]
Mar 12 06:41:04 <dub>	botsbe trippin
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Mar 12 07:29:43 <Bowjob>	crazy
Mar 12 07:29:49 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 12 07:29:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.30195, Best ask: 43.38067, Bid-ask spread: 1.07872, Last trade: 43.45000, 24 hour volume: 159770.00072363, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.17460
Mar 12 07:29:55 <Bowjob>	huh
Mar 12 07:30:11 <Bowjob>	$3 spread
Mar 12 07:30:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 12 07:30:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.30195, Best ask: 42.94924, Bid-ask spread: 0.64729, Last trade: 43.45000, 24 hour volume: 159770.00072363, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.17460
Mar 12 07:30:17 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 07:30:17 <gribble>	238.136401 seconds
Mar 12 07:30:20 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 12 07:34:06 <MJR_>	love the volume on days like this
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Mar 12 07:35:16 <MJR_>	7 million dollars traded in the last 24 hours
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Mar 12 07:36:16 <MJR_>	think mt gox made at least 350k in the last 24 hours
Mar 12 07:37:57 <Bowjob>	no way dude
Mar 12 07:39:08 <Bowjob>	they made less than 45k
Mar 12 07:39:28 <Bowjob>	they take 0.65% per trade, looking at the volume which is 7 mil
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Mar 12 07:39:36 <MJR_>	how?
Mar 12 07:39:44 <Bowjob>	simple math?
Mar 12 07:39:45 <MJR_>	ah yeah true
Mar 12 07:39:53 <MJR_>	wrong decimals
Mar 12 07:40:01 <Bowjob>	if the volume is 7m, 0.65% of it is 45500
Mar 12 07:40:14 <Bowjob>	but there are high profile trades that charges less
Mar 12 07:40:15 <MJR_>	I did do the math wrong
Mar 12 07:40:19 <Bowjob>	d'oh
Mar 12 07:40:27 <MJR_>	I estimated .5%
Mar 12 07:40:38 <Bowjob>	dude, still wrong
Mar 12 07:40:42 <MJR_>	to get closer to avg
Mar 12 07:40:42 <Bowjob>	even at 0.5% lol
Mar 12 07:40:46 <MJR_>	I know
Mar 12 07:40:49 <MJR_>	BUT
Mar 12 07:40:56 <MJR_>	they get it on both sides
Mar 12 07:41:10 <MJR_>	so I would say it was around 70k
Mar 12 07:41:25 <MJR_>	still pretty dope
Mar 12 07:41:39 <Bowjob>	ii thought volume means on both sides?
Mar 12 07:42:02 <Bowjob>	yah volume is on both sides. no sense making it on sell or buy
Mar 12 07:42:02 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 12 07:43:17 <Bowjob>	we have a dollar spread
Mar 12 07:43:18 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 12 07:43:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.16000, Best ask: 43.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 160178.76684778, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.16995
Mar 12 07:43:24 <Bowjob>	mhm, its remedied now
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Mar 12 08:10:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.749 = 10.486 BTC [+]
Mar 12 08:10:50 <BitHub>	cmon asicminer get to 1
Mar 12 08:12:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 45 @ 0.2 = 9 BTC [+]
Mar 12 08:14:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 8 @ 0.2 = 1.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 12 08:19:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [+]
Mar 12 08:20:04 <deadweasel>	so what was the outcome of the hardfork?  Miners downgraded to .7 and followed that one?
Mar 12 08:20:39 <deadweasel>	and today sould see some major sell offs as people wake up and lose faith in the blockchain?
Mar 12 08:20:54 <deadweasel>	on, nm, 42.6, already happened quite a bit
Mar 12 08:24:38 <Ukto>	its been up and down
Mar 12 08:24:49 <Ukto>	i sodl at 47
Mar 12 08:24:55 <Ukto>	bought at 68
Mar 12 08:24:56 <deadweasel>	well done
Mar 12 08:25:00 <deadweasel>	aw
Mar 12 08:25:00 <Ukto>	sold at 45
Mar 12 08:25:06 <deadweasel>	68?
Mar 12 08:25:11 <Ukto>	38
Mar 12 08:25:12 <Ukto>	sorry
Mar 12 08:25:12 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 12 08:25:17 <Ukto>	about to pass out lol
Mar 12 08:25:21 <Ukto>	phat fingers
Mar 12 08:25:39 <deadweasel>	no worries.  glad you got in on that low.
Mar 12 08:26:03 <Ukto>	i'm doing good atm
Mar 12 08:26:11 <deadweasel>	i was too terrified to move coins
Mar 12 08:26:11 <Ukto>	problem was I only had a small qty available to do this all with
Mar 12 08:26:27 <deadweasel>	i know the feelings
Mar 12 08:26:29 <Ukto>	and I was focused most of my time getting the new asset up
Mar 12 08:26:37 <Ukto>	isntead of day trading
Mar 12 08:27:26 <deadweasel>	but the blockchain fork -- all is well?
Mar 12 08:28:05 <Ukto>	yeah
Mar 12 08:28:08 <Ukto>	for me at least. hehe
Mar 12 08:28:11 <Ukto>	cant speak much about others
Mar 12 08:28:26 <Ukto>	some ppl lost. others .. well. really lost
Mar 12 08:30:02 <deadweasel>	that's why I moved no coins.
Mar 12 08:31:19 <deadweasel>	i just backed up my wallet and went to sleep.  was the best possible decision I could make.
Mar 12 08:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00530012 = 2.12 BTC [+]
Mar 12 08:47:41 <maximian>	nobody's coins were in danger. the only real potential danger from the fork was double-spends, but otherwise the system recovered nicely.
Mar 12 08:58:07 <deadweasel>	so nobody lost any BTC other than miners mining on the wrong chain?
Mar 12 08:59:08 <maximian>	yep
Mar 12 08:59:31 <maximian>	which isn't a bad result at all
Mar 12 08:59:37 <deadweasel>	no, it's not.
Mar 12 09:00:23 <maximian>	all transactions on the bad chain were automatically re-added to the 0.7 chain when it became the main chain
Mar 12 09:01:27 <maximian>	now that we all understand what a fork is and what its consequences are, perhaps there'll be less freaking out the next time around
Mar 12 09:04:27 <MJR_>	a
Mar 12 09:04:38 <Ukto>	b
Mar 12 09:11:44 <BitHub>	c
Mar 12 09:12:30 <deadweasel>	d
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Mar 12 09:43:11 <ThickAsThieves>	wow so we really havent crashed
Mar 12 09:43:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 12 09:43:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.45000, Best ask: 43.48700, Bid-ask spread: 0.03700, Last trade: 43.45000, 24 hour volume: 163556.53486023, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.04314
Mar 12 09:43:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 12 09:43:28 <maximian>	we'll see what happens when the west coast wakes up
Mar 12 09:44:09 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225492 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.0008422 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 299 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 20 hours, 1 minute, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4808426.70585 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.08615
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Mar 12 09:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0052 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Mar 12 09:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.0052 = 0.052 BTC [-]
Mar 12 09:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00500104 = 5.001 BTC [-]
Mar 12 09:57:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.005 = 6 BTC [-]
Mar 12 10:01:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00530012 = 0.53 BTC [+]
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Mar 12 10:08:33 <pgp2>	mtgox down?
Mar 12 10:10:38 <maximian>	up for me
Mar 12 10:10:56 <maximian>	as expected the press is having fun spinning the fork as a huge disaster
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Mar 12 10:11:41 <pgp2>	last price 43.35 for 40 min...    lag?
Mar 12 10:11:56 <maximian>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 10:11:57 <gribble>	2359.766339 seconds
Mar 12 10:12:00 <maximian>	yep
Mar 12 10:12:02 <maximian>	wow
Mar 12 10:12:23 <pgp2>	can't be good...
Mar 12 10:12:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 139 @ 0.00557 = 0.7742 BTC [-]
Mar 12 10:12:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00557 = 0.0111 BTC [-]
Mar 12 10:12:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 359 @ 0.00559 = 2.0068 BTC [+]
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Mar 12 10:23:06 <pgp>	gox must be down hard...
Mar 12 10:23:32 <maximian>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 10:23:33 <gribble>	3055.243187 seconds
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Mar 12 10:29:02 <maximian>	looks like trades have completely stopped
Mar 12 10:29:09 <deadweasel>	;;calc 3055 % 60
Mar 12 10:29:09 <gribble>	55
Mar 12 10:29:24 <deadweasel>	i'm sorry, mtgox, I think you just said you are 1 hour behind
Mar 12 10:29:31 <maximian>	but the website is still up
Mar 12 10:29:37 <maximian>	so it's probably not a DDoS
Mar 12 10:30:10 <deadweasel>	fortunately my work environment is down so I can focus on bitcoin.
Mar 12 10:30:30 <MJR_>	;;mtgoxlag
Mar 12 10:30:31 <gribble>	Error: "mtgoxlag" is not a valid command.
Mar 12 10:30:49 <MJR_>	;;gox lag
Mar 12 10:30:50 <gribble>	Error: "gox" is not a valid command.
Mar 12 10:30:55 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 10:30:56 <gribble>	3498.498363 seconds
Mar 12 10:31:00 <MJR_>	lolz
Mar 12 10:31:15 <deadweasel>	right?
Mar 12 10:31:31 <MJR_>	that would be an hour
Mar 12 10:32:01 <MJR_>	bitfloor has almost no lag
Mar 12 10:33:07 <deadweasel>	wish I'd been up when it hit 38
Mar 12 10:33:15 <deadweasel>	or put up a bid
Mar 12 10:33:18 <deadweasel>	duh
Mar 12 10:33:23 <pgp>	bitfloor is best place to trade imo
Mar 12 10:33:27 <deadweasel>	where is stop nobody knows!
Mar 12 10:33:46 <MJR_>	wish I was up too
Mar 12 10:33:48 <pgp>	looks like CampBX is totally offline...
Mar 12 10:33:58 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Mar 12 10:34:01 <ThickAsThieves>	annoying
Mar 12 10:34:27 <MJR_>	got filled on my 41 call orders at only .12 :)
Mar 12 10:34:33 <ThickAsThieves>	also bitcointalk is down
Mar 12 10:34:41 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Mar 12 10:34:51 <imsaguy>	and that's a bad thing how?
Mar 12 10:35:15 <imsaguy>	the trolls could use some UPTO
Mar 12 10:35:41 <MJR_>	did you see the hashing chart?
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Mar 12 10:37:10 <pgp>	gox is back..  sort of...
Mar 12 10:37:14 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 10:37:14 <gribble>	1575.684976 seconds
Mar 12 10:37:39 <deadweasel>	maybe we'll get to 38 again!
Mar 12 10:37:41 <deadweasel>	and we can buy!
Mar 12 10:37:42 <MJR_>	;;ident
Mar 12 10:37:42 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
Mar 12 10:37:42 <deadweasel>	:)
Mar 12 10:38:57 *	MJR_ set up my auth on my phone :)
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Mar 12 10:42:15 <pgp>	it's just unbelieveable just how bad mtgox is - one day they will be dethroned..
Mar 12 10:42:33 <gesell>	pgp: why is it bad? whats bad?
Mar 12 10:42:36 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 10:42:37 <gribble>	254.134423 seconds
Mar 12 10:44:14 <pgp>	pronlems with liquidity will only depress the price of BTC
Mar 12 10:46:53 <gesell>	i love how every time there are issues with bitcoind on a technical level the response is ALWAYS "well it was actually good this happened because now we know about the problem before bitcoin is huge" always
Mar 12 10:47:33 <pgp>	lol
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Mar 12 10:50:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 243 @ 0.005225 = 1.2697 BTC [-]
Mar 12 10:52:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 243 @ 0.00525 = 1.2758 BTC [-]
Mar 12 10:59:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 10:59:26 <gribble>	0.241681 seconds
Mar 12 10:59:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 12 10:59:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.29460, Best ask: 43.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20540, Last trade: 43.50000, 24 hour volume: 164731.60259301, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 43.89073
Mar 12 10:59:39 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 12 10:59:43 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 4803993.73691 based on data since last change | 4747391.32422 based on data for last three days
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Mar 12 11:10:23 <MJR_>	pgp: I can't wait for gox to be dethroned...time is $ after all
Mar 12 11:11:07 <MJR_>	that being said I love a nice dip
Mar 12 11:11:54 <aethero>	Yup
Mar 12 11:12:00 <aethero>	They're getting people moved over to bitstamp
Mar 12 11:12:21 <ThickAsThieves>	and how did ziggap fair thru all this?
Mar 12 11:12:35 <aethero>	Other than a few delays on a few orders because confirmations were slow?
Mar 12 11:12:37 <aethero>	Perfectly fine.
Mar 12 11:12:56 <ThickAsThieves>	cool
Mar 12 11:13:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm anticipating your next report
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Mar 12 11:16:16 <ThickAsThieves>	you guys see that BF supports an LTC wallet and currency trading for it now? https://bitfunder.com/asset/CRYPTO.LTC
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Mar 12 11:29:03 <iz>	;;ticker
Mar 12 11:29:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.03567, Best ask: 44.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.26433, Last trade: 44.03567, 24 hour volume: 165232.46687792, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 43.86845
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Mar 12 11:29:23 <iz>	whoa.. what happened with low of 36.65?
Mar 12 11:29:30 <iz>	in the last 24 hrs
Mar 12 11:29:46 <ThickAsThieves>	you didnt hear?
Mar 12 11:29:54 <ThickAsThieves>	about the big forcked chain problem for miners
Mar 12 11:30:01 <ThickAsThieves>	forkeg*
Mar 12 11:30:03 <ThickAsThieves>	forked...
Mar 12 11:30:08 <ThickAsThieves>	they fixed it
Mar 12 11:30:22 <ThickAsThieves>	trading was halted all ove rthe place
Mar 12 11:30:27 <ThickAsThieves>	then came the dip
Mar 12 11:30:30 <smickles>	also, it was the perfect time for chartists to start selling
Mar 12 11:30:44 <ThickAsThieves>	things looks stable no, so far
Mar 12 11:30:49 <MJR_>	very
Mar 12 11:31:20 <smickles>	i see the offending block was orphaned, so the 'good' chaing has taken over?
Mar 12 11:31:24 <MJR_>	in my humble opinion augury is more useful than "chart analysis" (you get to eat the cow)
Mar 12 11:31:41 <ThickAsThieves>	yes, smickles, as of around 3am EST last nite i think
Mar 12 11:31:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01451 BTC [-]
Mar 12 11:32:14 <ThickAsThieves>	most exchanges are working again
Mar 12 11:32:20 <ThickAsThieves>	campbx and btc- are not
Mar 12 11:32:24 <ThickAsThieves>	btc-e*
Mar 12 11:33:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 39 @ 0.01401 = 0.5464 BTC [-]
Mar 12 11:33:27 <smickles>	MJR_: heh, may well be. just because i think i understand what an adherrent would do, doesn't mean i am one ;)
Mar 12 11:33:48 <MJR_>	yeah lol, I think you are totally right
Mar 12 11:34:09 <MJR_>	I've been very happy to be a buy and hold kinda guy...
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Mar 12 11:34:53 <smickles>	MJR_: the best part of that plan is you don't have to worry about taxes untill the end
Mar 12 11:35:02 <MJR_>	lol :)
Mar 12 11:35:04 <MJR_>	yes
Mar 12 11:35:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00746 BTC [-]
Mar 12 11:35:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00524 = 0.524 BTC [+]
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Mar 12 11:35:30 <MJR_>	ideally I will worry about them from my island fortress lol
Mar 12 11:35:30 <iz>	ThickAsThieves: ah, cool.. no, i hadn't heard, ty for the info
Mar 12 11:35:57 <smickles>	MJR_: can i have a place in your court?
Mar 12 11:36:16 <MJR_>	lol, it will more than likely be your island fortress
Mar 12 11:36:26 <MJR_>	or lets be honest...mircea's
Mar 12 11:36:42 <smickles>	i think he started with an iland fortress tho
Mar 12 11:36:48 <MJR_>	hehehe
Mar 12 11:37:12 <MJR_>	only reason I think of that is from cryptonomicon
Mar 12 11:37:21 <MJR_>	a technocratic island
Mar 12 11:37:39 <MJR_>	based on p2p and crypto
Mar 12 11:38:35 <smickles>	so the news iw putting it as "Technical problems cause Bitcoin to plummet from record high, Mt. Gox suspends deposits"
Mar 12 11:38:45 <smickles>	s/iw/is/
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Mar 12 11:39:30 <MJR_>	FUD bullshit
Mar 12 11:39:54 <ThickAsThieves>	got link?
Mar 12 11:40:03 <smickles>	MJR_: you would've preferred the "SatoshiDice grows too big for Bitcoin?"
Mar 12 11:40:07 <MJR_>	it's gox high was over a week ago, the last "crash"
Mar 12 11:40:10 <maximian>	yeah, the tech blogs are jerking off over this
Mar 12 11:40:12 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/12/4092898/technical-problems-cause-bitcoin-to-plummet-from-record-high
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Mar 12 11:40:23 <smickles>	with links to arstechnica and gox
Mar 12 11:40:50 <ThickAsThieves>	hmm i was checking my verge feed and that didnt show
Mar 12 11:40:54 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe i'm just fried
Mar 12 11:41:13 <ThickAsThieves>	lol at the comments
Mar 12 11:41:16 <MJR_>	it hadn't even hit 49 again...so it was off its high as of last time mt gox fail whales
Mar 12 11:41:23 <ThickAsThieves>	it's actually not that complicated!
Mar 12 11:41:27 <ThickAsThieves>	Wall of TExt
Mar 12 11:41:41 <maximian>	price is still 120% or so higher than 30 days ago ffs
Mar 12 11:41:50 <MJR_>	yeah
Mar 12 11:41:52 <maximian>	for some reason, that = "plummet"
Mar 12 11:42:05 <gesell>	people have short term memory
Mar 12 11:42:10 <MJR_>	plummeted down to 14 higher than 2011 price
Mar 12 11:42:56 <gesell>	also dont forget that a lot of new worth (and new users, buyers) came in and probably have lots a lot in the past few days. so, im just saying, there are going to be some grumpy people around. but they will live. anyway.
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Mar 12 11:47:43 <saulimus>	someone should do a noob's guide to investing in bitcoin assets, or is there one yet?
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Mar 12 11:55:22 <Namworld>	saulimus: I don't think there's one. "Choose your poison" might be accurate.
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Mar 12 11:59:17 <ThickAsThieves>	saul, what are you having trouble with
Mar 12 12:00:08 <Namworld>	I think he just doesn't know where to start.
Mar 12 12:01:08 <MJR_>	easiest is to join coinbr
Mar 12 12:01:24 <MJR_>	from there it's the same as any other brokerage account
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Mar 12 12:02:57 <ThickAsThieves>	wouldnt bitfunder or btct be easier?
Mar 12 12:03:26 <saulimus>	Namworld, correct. I have some trading experience, but not with stocks. I know nothing about dividends.. as there isn't much happening in the charts, how do I know if it is a good buy or not?.. most stocks list something like P/E ratio etc. but afaik there isn't anything like that available
Mar 12 12:03:52 <ThickAsThieves>	saul, some tips
Mar 12 12:04:01 <ThickAsThieves>	every stock has a description
Mar 12 12:04:24 <saulimus>	yes, I've read some :)
Mar 12 12:04:27 <ThickAsThieves>	they each show div history as well as frequency
Mar 12 12:04:43 <ThickAsThieves>	you can see which are popular by looking at volume
Mar 12 12:04:58 <ThickAsThieves>	each asset usually has a thread on bitcointalk.org for it
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Mar 12 12:05:43 <ThickAsThieves>	whether somehting is a "good buy" is up to your judgement
Mar 12 12:06:49 <ThickAsThieves>	if you are looking for dividends, some assets pay daily/weekly/monthly
Mar 12 12:06:56 <imsaguy>	https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/601486_302260993236009_1961406465_n.jpg
Mar 12 12:07:07 <ThickAsThieves>	and many pay 1%-5% per month
Mar 12 12:07:39 <ThickAsThieves>	if you want stability then you'll need to do more research
Mar 12 12:07:52 <ThickAsThieves>	but stability is kind of a unicorn in bitcoin
Mar 12 12:07:56 <deadweasel>	although the worth of your shares will likely drop at 10-15% per month
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Mar 12 12:08:41 <ThickAsThieves>	dead, you shouldnt focus on stock value fluctuating on stokcs you are holding for long term divs
Mar 12 12:08:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume you are referring to sdice
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Mar 12 12:09:08 <MJR_>	good points ThickAsThieves
Mar 12 12:09:30 <ThickAsThieves>	of course it is good to have predictably stock valuie
Mar 12 12:09:31 <deadweasel>	i have a hard time believing there is a long term.
Mar 12 12:09:32 <saulimus>	and I got disconnected and missed all that..
Mar 12 12:09:39 <ThickAsThieves>	in case you need to cash out
Mar 12 12:09:43 <ThickAsThieves>	doh
Mar 12 12:10:38 <saulimus>	well, there's a sort of etf on bitfunder, I guess that would be a good start?
Mar 12 12:11:04 <ThickAsThieves>	link?
Mar 12 12:11:36 <saulimus>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/BTCINVEST
Mar 12 12:12:48 <ThickAsThieves>	that was is okay, it holds some asicminer, which is hot right now
Mar 12 12:13:00 <ThickAsThieves>	but i think the divs are a bit low
Mar 12 12:13:13 <ThickAsThieves>	that asset also does too much loaning for my taste
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Mar 12 12:13:58 <saulimus>	aha
Mar 12 12:16:00 <ThickAsThieves>	go slow at first
Mar 12 12:16:05 <ThickAsThieves>	theres a lot to take in
Mar 12 12:16:18 <ThickAsThieves>	and the more you read here and on the forums
Mar 12 12:16:25 <ThickAsThieves>	and each individual asset thread
Mar 12 12:16:31 <ThickAsThieves>	the better decisions youll make
Mar 12 12:16:56 <ThickAsThieves>	there's also a bitfunder channel
Mar 12 12:17:04 <ThickAsThieves>	not as busy as here tho
Mar 12 12:17:12 <saulimus>	k
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Mar 12 12:21:09 <Namworld>	I offer 0.03% daily on funds here.
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Mar 12 12:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 12 12:29:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.41654, Best ask: 43.41666, Bid-ask spread: 0.00012, Last trade: 43.50000, 24 hour volume: 166958.61630911, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 43.77197
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Mar 12 12:30:15 <smickles>	We're Going Down!
Mar 12 12:30:23 <jcpham>	twss
Mar 12 12:30:34 <jborkl_>	It is holding up well considering what a collosal fuck up this was
Mar 12 12:31:09 <jborkl_>	colossal
Mar 12 12:31:46 <Namworld>	It wasn't that colossal... just a little forking
Mar 12 12:32:22 <Namworld>	The miners voted which would be used going forward
Mar 12 12:32:25 <smickles>	yeah, and it's not likely that many lost btc due to incidental double spends
Mar 12 12:32:32 <Troic_>	it could have been colossal, if the pool ops weren't so cooperative
Mar 12 12:32:33 <jborkl_>	That they encouraged people to change the block size and not knowing it was going to break BDB was a big fuck up
Mar 12 12:32:35 <MJR_>	Namworld: what is your bonds URL again?
Mar 12 12:32:52 <smickles>	Troic_: beauty of the system, they have a financial incentive to cooperate
Mar 12 12:32:58 <Namworld>	https://btct.co/security/BTC-BOND
Mar 12 12:33:20 <deadweasel>	smickles: that's what keeps me sane
Mar 12 12:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 12 12:33:44 <smickles>	jborkl_: I do wish they had tested .8 better. tis could've been caught
Mar 12 12:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ the idea is strong, the implementation horrible
Mar 12 12:33:50 <Namworld>	they can still mass object to changes and refuse... but the longest chain will be the one with most miners.
Mar 12 12:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	in a sense this backhandedly proves how strong the idea is
Mar 12 12:33:59 <Namworld>	The issue is not in .8 at all...
Mar 12 12:34:01 <smickles>	gavin had admitted to testing 500k blocks
Mar 12 12:34:08 <smickles>	but not 1m blocks
Mar 12 12:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	smickles heh.
Mar 12 12:34:14 <Namworld>	It's in .7
Mar 12 12:34:33 <Namworld>	No amount of testing would have found the issue. .7 would have needed to be tested.
Mar 12 12:34:39 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld would you stop ?
Mar 12 12:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	any statement that claims "no amout of testing" is a lie by its nature
Mar 12 12:34:52 <jcpham>	red light.
Mar 12 12:34:56 <smickles>	Namworld: depends how you look at it no? the iss presented with the interaction of .8 and .7
Mar 12 12:35:16 <smickles>	something gavin was testing, just not toroughly enough
Mar 12 12:35:27 <Namworld>	The issue was in .7, if they tested .8 forever, they'd never have found the issue if they didn't use .7 in the testing.
Mar 12 12:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	obviously not the amount of testing they were willing to do in between chat session and harassinfg the userbase found it
Mar 12 12:35:29 <jborkl_>	I ran .7 and .8 versions, If I had run testnet and made a 1mb block I would have most likely broken .7
Mar 12 12:35:35 <mircea_popescu>	still, more testing WOULD have eventually found it.
Mar 12 12:35:53 <smickles>	Namworld: gavin said he would've caught it if he had tested a larger block on the testnet
Mar 12 12:36:15 <Namworld>	aye
Mar 12 12:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	smickles gotta give props to gavin, he's one of the few that are actually contrite enough.
Mar 12 12:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	he might be the only pro in the bunch, too.
Mar 12 12:36:27 <smickles>	he only tested 500k blocks, and it happened on a 900k block
Mar 12 12:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	967 or some shit
Mar 12 12:36:54 <Namworld>	I'm not saying it couldn't have been found, I'm just refuting that doing more testing on .8 would have given any result.
Mar 12 12:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	unauthoritatively my it says berkley seems to choke in this case over about 10k records
Mar 12 12:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld the "on .8" is a meaningless constraint.
Mar 12 12:37:26 <mircea_popescu>	who and why would be testing on .8 only ?!
Mar 12 12:37:45 <jborkl_>	really, only test a part of the code against itself?
Mar 12 12:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ for great lulz.
Mar 12 12:38:10 <Namworld>	I know... but people everywhere say that .8 should have been tested more so the issue would have been found.
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Mar 12 12:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	well yes. that is correct, it should have been,
Mar 12 12:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	nobody is saying "shouldhave been tested more by itself in a vacuum"
Mar 12 12:38:43 <jborkl_>	I just solo mined on .72 again last night until it was all figured out- I knew I kept .72 around and running for a reason
Mar 12 12:38:52 <Namworld>	ARGH
Mar 12 12:39:00 <smickles>	Namworld: i believe they do test for interaction with older versions
Mar 12 12:39:07 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ i've always been slow to upgrade, specifically for lack of faith.
Mar 12 12:39:12 <MJR_>	Namworld: I think what they mean is that part of testing a new release is testing it's interactions with other versions for backward compatiblity
Mar 12 12:39:20 <smickles>	they certainly  outta now
Mar 12 12:39:26 <Namworld>	Don't you get it? I'm trying to refute people who think the issue is with .8 and that .8 alone should have been tested more...
Mar 12 12:39:38 <jborkl_>	Yeah, me too- I don't like being the first to change- bit me too many times
Mar 12 12:39:53 <Namworld>	Not that more proper testing would not have found the issue (proper with many versions). That more testing of .8 alone would have not changed anything.
Mar 12 12:40:18 <Namworld>	This is the only thing I'm trying to say.
Mar 12 12:40:27 <smickles>	personall, i include previous version interaction in the testing of one version
Mar 12 12:40:47 <smickles>	so it's a silly argument :P differences in definitions
Mar 12 12:40:56 <Namworld>	ah, I see.
Mar 12 12:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld a, the issue isn't with .8
Mar 12 12:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	the issue is with berkley db, which was on the way out
Mar 12 12:42:09 <Namworld>	THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M FUCKING CLAIMING THAT THE ISSUE AIN'T ON .8!
Mar 12 12:42:30 <jborkl_>	people were all up in arms about having 80 to 1000 unconfirmed transactions waiting. with NO testing, people made larger blocks - that broke BDB
Mar 12 12:42:35 <jborkl_>	800
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Mar 12 12:42:55 <Namworld>	>.<
Mar 12 12:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	yes well, you went about it in a broken way.
Mar 12 12:43:43 <Namworld>	I'm talking about people making such claims... not about me making the same claims =/
Mar 12 12:44:13 <jborkl_>	It could have been handled and implemented properly
Mar 12 12:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	<Namworld> No amount of testing would have found the issue.
Mar 12 12:44:38 <Namworld>	@smickles: some people even claimed they sticked to an old version specially because of potential such issues with new versions when .8 wasn't the source of the problem. If they had switched it would have been an non-issue. We've reverted to accomodate the bug in .7 and not to leave people behind.
Mar 12 12:45:33 <jborkl_>	.8 should be used, but we are holding back so poor people with shitty connections and shitty hardware can still be here
Mar 12 12:46:01 <Namworld>	mircea: I was referring to testing of .8 alone. I'm made an omission in it. I've been trying to correct myself for like the last few minutes =/
Mar 12 12:46:21 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld no! rabble! rabble!
Mar 12 12:46:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 12 12:46:56 <imsaguy>	did someone say b00bies?
Mar 12 12:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	booties.
Mar 12 12:47:01 <MJR_>	lol, you know people can run either version and change the size of blocks they can accept or mine
Mar 12 12:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ not accept. just mine.
Mar 12 12:47:11 <imsaguy>	..
Mar 12 12:47:14 <ThickAsThieves>	so good http://2mellomakes.bandcamp.com/album/chrono-jigga
Mar 12 12:47:18 <imsaguy>	the problems is that other people accepted it
Mar 12 12:47:20 <imsaguy>	and then it got mined in
Mar 12 12:47:23 <Namworld>	I hate it when I forget something in a sentence and I'm getting argued against for 10 minutes when I have the same point of view as the one arguing against me.
Mar 12 12:47:27 <imsaguy>	so even if you didn't allow it, someone else did
Mar 12 12:47:31 <imsaguy>	and then your client chokes
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Mar 12 12:47:47 <imsaguy>	and you get stuck and don't get any new blocks
Mar 12 12:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld does it happen often ?
Mar 12 12:48:13 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: Namworld is usually arguing with himself.
Mar 12 12:48:30 <Namworld>	That's new. I don't recall that.
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Mar 12 12:48:43 <Namworld>	No. Maybe every month or the other.
Mar 12 12:48:51 <jborkl_>	They have identified it as .BDB has a limit and can be broken. .8 does not have a limit and seems fine. Lets move back to the broken
Mar 12 12:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	i enjoy arguing with him mostly because he seems to go about things in a totally different way than anyone else
Mar 12 12:48:53 <Namworld>	When typing fast.
Mar 12 12:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	which is a great way to become a laughingstock, sure, but also a great way to find obscure bugs.
Mar 12 12:49:59 <Namworld>	Actually I find you go about things in a different way than anyone else...
Mar 12 12:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	of course i do.
Mar 12 12:50:22 <MJR_>	can't you change your code in .7 to accept larger blocks?
Mar 12 12:50:28 <imsaguy>	no
Mar 12 12:50:30 <imsaguy>	its bdb
Mar 12 12:50:36 <imsaguy>	.7 can already accept larger blocks
Mar 12 12:50:42 <imsaguy>	bdb can't handle the locking
Mar 12 12:50:45 <imsaguy>	too many tx in the block
Mar 12 12:50:45 <Namworld>	Almost all misunderstandings on Bitcoin IRC are with you. I usually go about quite well with almost everyone else.
Mar 12 12:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld almost everyone else doesn't have much to say.
Mar 12 12:51:08 <MJR_>	ah I see
Mar 12 12:51:12 <imsaguy>	I'm glad I'm not almost everyone else
Mar 12 12:51:21 <imsaguy>	I have a shitton to say
Mar 12 12:51:25 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 12 12:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy should i grep log for imsaguy ? :D
Mar 12 12:51:51 <imsaguy>	don't forget [\\\]
Mar 12 12:51:51 <jborkl_>	The problem glaring from this, now a obvious major problem is here and can be exploited again.
Mar 12 12:51:53 <imsaguy>	and pirateat40
Mar 12 12:51:56 <imsaguy>	oops
Mar 12 12:52:00 <imsaguy>	just [\\\]
Mar 12 12:52:05 <MJR_>	has anyone ever said "bitcoin-assets is great but I just wish it had as much drama as bitcointalk.com"
Mar 12 12:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	kik
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Mar 12 12:52:34 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ it has moar.
Mar 12 12:52:36 <Namworld>	I think you are very literal on what sentences mean and interpret as little as possible. You avoid making too many inferences during a conversation so even small omissions can result in misunderstandings.
Mar 12 12:52:38 <imsaguy>	MJR_: they didn't have to
Mar 12 12:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld certainly. this way misunderstandings are found early.
Mar 12 12:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	at least ideally.
Mar 12 12:53:15 <imsaguy>	;;seen usagi
Mar 12 12:53:15 <gribble>	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 23 hours, 17 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <usagi> do it
Mar 12 12:53:19 <imsaguy>	aww
Mar 12 12:53:27 <imsaguy>	does he still owe people coins?
Mar 12 12:53:32 <imsaguy>	she/it*
Mar 12 12:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy i think he's doing something with silver atm
Mar 12 12:53:37 <Namworld>	If it was a written text, I might make less omissions. When chatting tho, I type fast and usually omit things.
Mar 12 12:53:54 <imsaguy>	uh oh..
Mar 12 12:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	actually... what if usagi and eskimo bob joined forces
Mar 12 12:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	and created the world's first
Mar 12 12:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	silver easybake oven ?
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Mar 12 12:54:23 <imsaguy>	sounds like a methlab waiting to happen
Mar 12 12:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	when they get older.
Mar 12 12:54:44 <imsaguy>	how old is bob?
Mar 12 12:55:05 <Namworld>	bob? The eskimo?
Mar 12 12:55:20 <jborkl_>	put both of their ideas on how to make money together? 1+1=still is 0
Mar 12 12:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	should be like twentysomething i would guess
Mar 12 12:55:30 <Namworld>	Only bob I know around these parts.
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Mar 12 12:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152246.msg1615740#msg1615740
Mar 12 12:56:15 <mircea_popescu>	some of the funniest shit i read all day.
Mar 12 12:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	this seems to be the contemporary brain disease, people reading stuff they don't understand here and there, mashing it into a sort of compound
Mar 12 12:56:51 <jcpham>	bitcoin is the  worst
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Mar 12 12:58:09 <Namworld>	I think being heavily dependant on miners is actually what Satoshi wanted... miners vote with their hashing power... That's exactly how the system is supposed to work.
Mar 12 12:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
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Mar 12 12:58:46 <jborkl_>	I like Death and Taxes response
Mar 12 12:58:51 <Namworld>	and devs can consult with mining pool when changing limits and send a warning so everyone upgrades directly to the client, should they want to make a change to allow scaling.
Mar 12 12:58:58 <ThickAsThieves>	they will still need to hard fork us again at some point, no?
Mar 12 12:59:16 <Namworld>	yes, they'll need to.
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Mar 12 12:59:41 <ThickAsThieves>	so does that not give malicious people a specific time in the future to plan for?
Mar 12 12:59:50 <Namworld>	But with proper warning and support from the community for the change, only the few not switching are left behind.
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Mar 12 12:59:59 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes, it does.
Mar 12 13:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	it really is a catastrophe, strategically
Mar 12 13:00:15 <ThickAsThieves>	this time they werent prepared
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Mar 12 13:00:19 <ThickAsThieves>	next time they will be
Mar 12 13:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	just the puppy eyed idiots don't quite get what happened so raw raw we love devteam
Mar 12 13:00:35 <Namworld>	what kind of malicious stuff might there be?
Mar 12 13:00:44 <ThickAsThieves>	planning to double spend?
Mar 12 13:00:45 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld you're proceeding on the wrong path.
Mar 12 13:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	that's not how this works, "o, what bad stuff could happen?"
Mar 12 13:01:23 <jborkl_>	Well, first of all they need to plan the change sooner than later
Mar 12 13:01:28 <Namworld>	No, I mean malicious stuff from knowing ahead of time about a fork.
Mar 12 13:01:35 <Namworld>	Other than double-spend attacks
Mar 12 13:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	how would i know ?
Mar 12 13:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	we'll find out if we're unfortunate enough.
Mar 12 13:02:06 <Namworld>	But really, merchants/miners can plan ahead if they know. It's better if it's known in advance than not.
Mar 12 13:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	even if we don't know that doesn't make the issue ok.
Mar 12 13:02:34 <benkay>	ra ra go devbs
Mar 12 13:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	knowing in advance there will have to be a hard fork is a weakness of the system.
Mar 12 13:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	it may be reduced rto almost no cost, maybe
Mar 12 13:02:41 <benkay>	centralize us on a single buggy broken blatform
Mar 12 13:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	but it still costs > 0
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Mar 12 13:03:02 <mircea_popescu>	and incidentally, i wonder what OTHER exploits are there for berkley
Mar 12 13:03:11 <Namworld>	Well there will be forks...
Mar 12 13:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	that were illustrated by this but aren't limited to lage blocks
Mar 12 13:03:12 <benkay>	and for people who have trouble keeping up with the technical times, the costs are going to be higher next time
Mar 12 13:03:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [+]
Mar 12 13:03:25 <Namworld>	That's pretty much unavoidable.
Mar 12 13:03:27 <mircea_popescu>	benkay the top pool is pretty much bankrupt now, is it ?
Mar 12 13:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	courtesy of idiotteam doublewhammy-ing them
Mar 12 13:03:49 <benkay>	market dominance is never an indicator of technical competence
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Mar 12 13:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	be that as it may.
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Mar 12 13:04:00 <Namworld>	look at MtGox...
Mar 12 13:04:07 <Namworld>	good example
Mar 12 13:04:10 <mircea_popescu>	good point
Mar 12 13:04:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 13:04:13 <gribble>	2.062621 seconds
Mar 12 13:04:17 <benkay>	heh/.
Mar 12 13:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 12 13:04:20 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.116768121719 seconds
Mar 12 13:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	win.
Mar 12 13:04:32 <mircea_popescu>	o boy will i be having fun with this.
Mar 12 13:04:36 <benkay>	what is mpexlag calculating?
Mar 12 13:04:41 <Namworld>	MtGox is pretty much constently lagging.
Mar 12 13:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	the lag to talk to mpex, through a remote and a local proxy
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Mar 12 13:05:00 <benkay>	to the order-parsing system?
Mar 12 13:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	benkay the bot just measures the proxy response
Mar 12 13:05:23 <ThickAsThieves>	so i know they me seem ignorant, but just thinking out loud, is there not a way to make the bitcoin software part of the blockchain itself?
Mar 12 13:05:27 <benkay>	so to web server.
Mar 12 13:05:33 <ThickAsThieves>	to allow propagation of new versions?
Mar 12 13:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	it takes .11 seconds for an order to go from bot to remote proxy -> to local proxy -> to trade engine and back
Mar 12 13:05:47 <benkay>	oh okay
Mar 12 13:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	no that's not correct.
Mar 12 13:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	it takes .11 seconds for an order to go from bot to remote proxy -> to local proxy and back
Mar 12 13:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	you can't measure the trade engine from outside
Mar 12 13:06:54 <benkay>	what kind of volume would your trade engine have to see before it started lagging?
Mar 12 13:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	benkay i've seen > 10 orders per second irl
Mar 12 13:07:34 <benkay>	*grins*
Mar 12 13:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	i've seen > 100 on testnet with the future config
Mar 12 13:07:58 <benkay>	assuming you don't mean btc testnet?
Mar 12 13:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	(this has to be sustained at that level for an hour or so for things to start feeling it)
Mar 12 13:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	benkay no, my own. btc don't enter into it
Mar 12 13:08:28 <smickles>	benkay: i could have it place an order, to test, but the problem would be cancelling that order later
Mar 12 13:08:30 <benkay>	*nods*
Mar 12 13:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	mpex could trade on beenz if i wanted to, it's completely btc agnostic.
Mar 12 13:08:41 <benkay>	i get it man i get it
Mar 12 13:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	smickles actually the expansion on that is
Mar 12 13:08:52 <benkay>	namespace conflict
Mar 12 13:08:57 <benkay>	just resolving
Mar 12 13:09:05 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: would a better measure be sending a bunk order?
Mar 12 13:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	once i get the rest online, can you measure the lag for the entire $proxies list ?
Mar 12 13:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i think it's a fine measure as it is really.
Mar 12 13:09:19 <smickles>	i suppose i could
Mar 12 13:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	the way mpex works you get the trade engine lag printed rioght on each stat
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Mar 12 13:18:29 <ThickAsThieves>	any thoughts on somehow tying the bitcoin software to the blockchain itself? dumb idea?
Mar 12 13:18:48 <Namworld>	yes
Mar 12 13:19:02 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: what purpose would it serve?
Mar 12 13:19:10 <ThickAsThieves>	propgation of new versions
Mar 12 13:19:12 <ThickAsThieves>	forced
Mar 12 13:19:35 <Namworld>	Would be catastrophic... no more voting on what changes you want
Mar 12 13:19:47 <Namworld>	Basically, someone controls Bitcoin
Mar 12 13:19:53 <ThickAsThieves>	how is that different
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Mar 12 13:20:17 <smickles>	yeah, right now, users 'vote', miners 'vote'
Mar 12 13:20:20 <imsaguy>	Namworld: not true
Mar 12 13:20:26 <imsaguy>	you can always compile your own bitcoin software
Mar 12 13:20:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i know *I* can't contol what devs and pools do
Mar 12 13:20:49 <ThickAsThieves>	voted or not
Mar 12 13:20:57 <imsaguy>	you vote with your hash
Mar 12 13:21:00 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: but you don't have to go along with them
Mar 12 13:21:01 <imsaguy>	you vote with what you use
Mar 12 13:21:10 <Namworld>	Yeah. But almost the same if software upgrade is forced through the blockchain itself. Not sure how that could even work tho
Mar 12 13:21:19 <imsaguy>	well for example
Mar 12 13:21:19 <Namworld>	Anyway, I'm out.
Mar 12 13:21:24 <imsaguy>	you take the bitcoin.org reference software
Mar 12 13:21:37 <imsaguy>	and they say 'this version isn't good after block X'
Mar 12 13:21:44 <imsaguy>	you've just put an expiration date on the software
Mar 12 13:21:59 <imsaguy>	I'm not advocating they do this
Mar 12 13:22:00 <smickles>	where's the statics on what version people are running, i think there are a bunch still on .3
Mar 12 13:22:08 <imsaguy>	Luke-Jr has a graph page
Mar 12 13:22:14 <imsaguy>	but I don't know how often it updates
Mar 12 13:22:21 <Luke-Jr>	it's realtime
Mar 12 13:22:27 <ThickAsThieves>	its just lame that people can be left in the void
Mar 12 13:22:27 <imsaguy>	url?
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Mar 12 13:22:36 <Luke-Jr>	http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/branches.html
Mar 12 13:22:38 <imsaguy>	ThickAsThieves: Its on the of problems with Microsoft
Mar 12 13:22:48 <imsaguy>	they keep trying to support the morons that refuse to update
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Mar 12 13:23:08 <imsaguy>	if they cut people off cold turkey, they could cut a lot of hackjobs added to make old software work with the new stuff
Mar 12 13:23:11 <ThickAsThieves>	they have an obligation to their product
Mar 12 13:23:13 <smickles>	Luke-Jr: updated reasonably well?
Mar 12 13:23:25 <Luke-Jr>	[17:22:20] <Luke-Jr> it's realtime
Mar 12 13:23:26 <imsaguy>	smickles: he said realtime
Mar 12 13:23:33 <imsaguy>	lol
Mar 12 13:23:36 <smickles>	oh, i should read
Mar 12 13:23:42 <smickles>	sry Luke-Jr
Mar 12 13:23:45 <imsaguy>	is realtime reasonably well?
Mar 12 13:23:49 <imsaguy>	NO!
Mar 12 13:23:52 <imsaguy>	MOAR!
Mar 12 13:24:05 <Luke-Jr>	[13-03-12 17:24:00] 1784/529458 available (520270 tried in 61095s, 9164 new, 24 active), 177 banned; 1692328 DNS requests, 112840 db queries
Mar 12 13:24:07 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: look, about 2.45% of the network is using .3 still
Mar 12 13:24:07 <imsaguy>	Luke-Jr: could you make one that's futuretime?
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Mar 12 13:24:24 <Luke-Jr>	imsaguy: draw a big circle and write 1.0 in the middle?
Mar 12 13:24:33 <imsaguy>	yay!
Mar 12 13:24:35 <imsaguy>	no more beta
Mar 12 13:24:39 <imsaguy>	<.<
Mar 12 13:24:41 <imsaguy>	>.>
Mar 12 13:24:48 <ThickAsThieves>	betacoin
Mar 12 13:25:14 <smickles>	imsaguy: compile your own from .8 but modify it to say that it is 1.0
Mar 12 13:25:16 <smickles>	:D
Mar 12 13:25:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm just stuck on meta thoughts lately, i think its lack of sleep
Mar 12 13:25:48 <smickles>	.5 just gets no love
Mar 12 13:26:08 <ThickAsThieves>	make bitbets about bitbet! put bitcoin software on blockchain!
Mar 12 13:28:17 <imsaguy>	lol smickles
Mar 12 13:28:27 <imsaguy>	I am one of the unidentifieds
Mar 12 13:29:23 <ThickAsThieves>	we're all martian immigrants http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/12/4094534/nasa-curiosity-rover-discovers-ancient-mars-could-have
Mar 12 13:37:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.2 = 2 BTC [+]
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Mar 12 13:42:44 <iz>	ThickAsThieves: *picture of xibit holding a picture of xibit*
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Mar 12 13:47:59 <ThickAsThieves>	while looking in the mirror with a mirror behind him
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Mar 12 13:52:11 <kakobrekla>	is the chain back to normal?
Mar 12 13:52:21 <kakobrekla>	anyone having any txes hanging in the air?
Mar 12 13:52:56 <ThickAsThieves>	everything is legit for me in all accounts
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Mar 12 13:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla should be fine.
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Mar 12 13:54:53 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 12 13:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	until someone figures out how to trigger the berkley bug with a smaller block
Mar 12 13:54:58 <kakobrekla>	i have some oldish txes
Mar 12 13:55:04 <mircea_popescu>	such as including 10k 160 byte txs
Mar 12 13:55:05 <kakobrekla>	still no confirm
Mar 12 13:55:13 <kakobrekla>	kinda worrying
Mar 12 13:55:37 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 12 13:55:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.01770, Best ask: 45.01771, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 45.01771, 24 hour volume: 171261.27579910, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 43.77026
Mar 12 13:55:40 <deadweasel>	back to 45!
Mar 12 13:56:00 <deadweasel>	a hard fork bounce  :)
Mar 12 13:56:09 <ThickAsThieves>	btcguild at 13k
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Mar 12 13:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves sorry ?
Mar 12 13:57:29 <Anduck>	any btct.co admins online?
Mar 12 13:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	burnside ^
Mar 12 13:58:12 <ThickAsThieves>	sry, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg1616550#msg1616550
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Mar 12 14:03:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7 = 7 BTC [-]
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Mar 12 14:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.msg1616671#msg1616671
Mar 12 14:07:26 <mircea_popescu>	"o, it was a bug in berkely db"
Mar 12 14:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	fucking idiots.
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Mar 12 14:12:13 <MJR_>	;;seen Josh_Rossi
Mar 12 14:12:13 <gribble>	Josh_Rossi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 16 hours, 7 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <Josh_Rossi> pretty sweet
Mar 12 14:12:27 <MJR_>	that is cool
Mar 12 14:17:18 <pigeons>	today I downloaded .7 and have been patiently waiting for my blockchain to download, im not sure if I will continue refunds or just buy a big crack rock and smoke it in a cave some where but I am totally offended by this scammer tag
Mar 12 14:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	you got a scammer tag ?!
Mar 12 14:18:51 <pigeons>	tom
Mar 12 14:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol totally offended okay.
Mar 12 14:19:05 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143496.msg1614693#msg1614693
Mar 12 14:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	so he couldn't do refunds all through february because the devs borked transition to .9
Mar 12 14:19:26 <pigeons>	yeah
Mar 12 14:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	.8*. in march.
Mar 12 14:20:20 <pigeons>	"if I was a scammer I could be living it up easy some place warm instead of braving the same upstate new york winters I have been for 30+ years"
Mar 12 14:20:21 <mircea_popescu>	well... let's just hope gavin sends him the correct lists then
Mar 12 14:21:05 <pigeons>	"If anyone has any idea how I can buy a large amount of bitcoins please message me. The largest amount I can buy from bitinstant is $500 worth ive looked and looked and its near impossible to make a large bitcoin purchase anywhere."
Mar 12 14:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	oh i see yeah
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Mar 12 14:22:32 <mod6>	to everyone else .... PEACE AND LOVE
Mar 12 14:22:34 <mod6>	lol
Mar 12 14:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	so here's the lol of today :
Mar 12 14:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	devs say berkeley is broken. it is fine. they forgot to configure it.
Mar 12 14:23:41 <pigeons>	yeah we know
Mar 12 14:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	this is possibly the worst case of "hi i am calling to report a bug" bungled tech support ever.
Mar 12 14:23:49 <ZedsterX>	the college?
Mar 12 14:23:54 <ZedsterX>	jk
Mar 12 14:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i fear it'll take me a little to digest this one
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Mar 12 14:24:34 <pigeons>	you can configure it to use more locks, so far that seems to work just uses a lot more ram but works
Mar 12 14:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	the proof of something awful's general cluelessness/irrelevance is the low level mock articles they're pushing out.
Mar 12 14:25:41 <mircea_popescu>	there's material here to scathe.
Mar 12 14:26:53 <mod6>	yeah BDB has been a thorn in dev's side for a decade. but sounds like this time they forgot about a landmine they already stepped on once before.
Mar 12 14:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	for people into sdice graphs : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1614936#msg1614936
Mar 12 14:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 bring me up to speed, what exactly is the objection ? it is widely deployed and consequently well debugged by now
Mar 12 14:27:50 <mod6>	BTC needs a CVE or something or some sort of post mortum.
Mar 12 14:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.57575758 = 2.8788 BTC [-]
Mar 12 14:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/HzcprPZ.png
Mar 12 14:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	this particularly is illustrative.
Mar 12 14:30:35 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: its not really an objection.
Mar 12 14:30:50 <mod6>	its just something to be cautious of
Mar 12 14:30:58 <mircea_popescu>	ya but i mean, why ?
Mar 12 14:31:07 <mod6>	it escapes me dude
Mar 12 14:31:11 <mod6>	its been too long
Mar 12 14:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol kk
Mar 12 14:31:16 <mod6>	so many problems over the years
Mar 12 14:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	just trying to get smarter over here :p
Mar 12 14:31:26 <mod6>	i couldn't possibly remember them all
Mar 12 14:31:33 <mod6>	im just depressed about this shit
Mar 12 14:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine a number of people are.
Mar 12 14:33:25 <mod6>	i was thinking about the gox issue...
Mar 12 14:33:50 <mod6>	and perhaps what we need is something like rootservers for fiat->btc exchanges
Mar 12 14:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	what are those ?
Mar 12 14:35:31 <mod6>	dns has root servers worldwide to resolve requests.  thinking that maybe btc could do well to have like 10-13 worldwide exchanges all independant of eachother.
Mar 12 14:35:34 <MJR_>	like DNS ?
Mar 12 14:35:37 <mod6>	not that all the code should be the same.
Mar 12 14:36:00 <MJR_>	but also...those root servers have children
Mar 12 14:36:06 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla wants something like the way fx is setup
Mar 12 14:36:08 <mod6>	root servers don't keep the same code either, not exactly anyway, this way it prevents a simutaious attack against all
Mar 12 14:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 it would be good to have many exchanges, but there's problems with getting that to work in p[ractice
Mar 12 14:36:38 <mircea_popescu>	because exchanges concentrate liquidity and people chase liquidity
Mar 12 14:36:43 <mod6>	this will help distrbute the load of exchange, and then btc wont have 1 place to look for price signals.
Mar 12 14:36:48 <MJR_>	well, one thing is that instant settlement is going to be harder and harder to scale
Mar 12 14:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	personally i think the solution is fixing, but
Mar 12 14:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	few people involved actually have enough finance knowledge to get it going yet.
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Mar 12 14:37:24 <kakobrekla>	true
Mar 12 14:37:24 <MJR_>	fix protocol?
Mar 12 14:37:28 <kakobrekla>	gox mus die
Mar 12 14:37:30 <kakobrekla>	fix is shit
Mar 12 14:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ no gais. fixing.
Mar 12 14:38:37 <MJR_>	you lost me
Mar 12 14:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	ok, it's like this. suppose the three main dealers are A, B  and C.
Mar 12 14:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:18:13 <mircea_popescu>	chair X calls the meeting. X proposes price, say 47.5
Mar 12 14:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	a, b and c go through their books, see what customers want, see what they want on their own account
Mar 12 14:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	then they say. a buys 50k usd. b sells 25k usd. c sells 70k usd.
Mar 12 14:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	25 + 70 > 50k so its not fixed
Mar 12 14:38:40 <mod6>	and fixing this block size thing is kinda crazy. its like you know when you get a UDP request to your DNS server and the reply from the Zone is > than the max size of UDP, it rolls over to tcp
Mar 12 14:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	x has to call a lower price now
Mar 12 14:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:19:00 <jurov>	ah that kind of meeting you mean
Mar 12 14:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	say 47.3
Mar 12 14:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	now a b and c review their books
Mar 12 14:38:48 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:19:14 <mod6>	think i just need to add some sleep time....
Mar 12 14:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	42 12 40
Mar 12 14:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	etc
Mar 12 14:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 11 09:19:27 <mircea_popescu>	this process is called fixing, it's widely used to obtain a price.
Mar 12 14:39:40 <MJR_>	well, again I think that could happen on a larger scale...
Mar 12 14:39:41 <pgp>	credit lines between exchanges to allow cross exchange arb would be an important start...
Mar 12 14:39:48 <MJR_>	yes exactly
Mar 12 14:39:49 <mod6>	i don't think im smart enough for this stuff.
Mar 12 14:40:10 <MJR_>	pgp: again instant settlement is not sustainable
Mar 12 14:40:15 <kakobrekla>	the first important step, realizing that.
Mar 12 14:40:28 <pgp>	this would also require something akin to DTCC (depositiory trust clearing corp) where every exchange is a member and keeps money on deposit...
Mar 12 14:40:30 <MJR_>	or even wise...since cold storage =\= instant
Mar 12 14:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	pgp that could easily be implemented using the mpex push for isntance
Mar 12 14:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	or independently, but pgp is a good solution to keep it safe.
Mar 12 14:41:33 <pgp>	indeed
Mar 12 14:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	problem is every exchange wants to act as if in a vacuum, because
Mar 12 14:41:45 <mircea_popescu>	they perceive they lack any distinguishing features
Mar 12 14:41:56 <kakobrekla>	the problem is exchange ops are retarded
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Mar 12 14:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla basically.
Mar 12 14:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	the problem with bitcoin in general is the userbase is dumb.
Mar 12 14:42:26 <MJR_>	well not educated financially
Mar 12 14:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	devteam, miners, pool ops, exchange ops, everyone is... you know... draftees
Mar 12 14:42:30 <mircea_popescu>	people picked off the street
Mar 12 14:42:31 <MJR_>	tech savvy
Mar 12 14:43:03 <MJR_>	you would be surprised how many financial wizards have trouble using email
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Mar 12 14:43:05 <mod6>	:(
Mar 12 14:43:13 <pgp>	yes - with the exception of bitfloor, it doesn't seem that these exchanges are run by anyone familiar with how "real" exchanges (and clearing operations) actually work...
Mar 12 14:43:22 <kakobrekla>	bitlol
Mar 12 14:43:29 <mod6>	i got trolled so hard by my gf for this shit yesterday
Mar 12 14:43:30 <MJR_>	so you need people who are tech AND finance savvy
Mar 12 14:43:31 <kakobrekla>	guy got fucked a comple of times no?
Mar 12 14:43:38 <MJR_>	he did
Mar 12 14:43:44 <mod6>	we're the laughing stock
Mar 12 14:43:46 <kakobrekla>	over confidend
Mar 12 14:43:50 <kakobrekla>	nt
Mar 12 14:43:57 <mircea_popescu>	pgp bitfloor, the guys currently owinfg like 900x what they'll ever make ?
Mar 12 14:44:08 <MJR_>	well...last I checked there was only one exchange that hasn't been hacked
Mar 12 14:44:10 <pizzaman1337>	so what is the "proper" way to run an exchange? where can I read about this?
Mar 12 14:44:18 <kakobrekla>	The book of Kako
Mar 12 14:44:27 <kakobrekla>	Kako accually means how
Mar 12 14:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 this ain't knitting we're discussiong here man.
Mar 12 14:44:30 <kakobrekla>	so it makes sense.
Mar 12 14:44:57 <MJR_>	well, paranoia does not an efficient market make
Mar 12 14:44:58 <kakobrekla>	lol mp
Mar 12 14:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	you read about it in school, which costs dough
Mar 12 14:45:05 <kakobrekla>	anywho brb
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Mar 12 14:45:23 <pizzaman1337>	schoool... that's what the internet is for
Mar 12 14:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 no but srsly, this is the sort of thing people pay in the 100's of k's for,
Mar 12 14:45:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's not exactly "go to wikipedia" sort of thing
Mar 12 14:46:07 <MJR_>	it is pretty sad that the biggest exchange can't handle orders in less than 5 min
Mar 12 14:46:09 <pizzaman1337>	well, there must be some info on it somewhere that I could get access too
Mar 12 14:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ mpex doesn't do fiat tho, so it's kinda moot for this problem
Mar 12 14:46:21 <kakobrekla>	s/5min/30min
Mar 12 14:46:33 <MJR_>	don't know of anyone getting hacked for fiat
Mar 12 14:46:42 <pigeons>	heh
Mar 12 14:46:46 <pigeons>	no?
Mar 12 14:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	what's sad is that they take ~5k a month in hardware costs to process 8k trades in 30 minutes
Mar 12 14:46:50 <pigeons>	look harder
Mar 12 14:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	if we scale this liniarly we discover it'd cost more than it's worth to have ti trade
Mar 12 14:47:07 <MJR_>	I meant the bitcoin exchanges
Mar 12 14:47:12 <pigeons>	yes
Mar 12 14:47:13 <pgp>	for starters, most all exchanges today pay you to add liquidity to their book - the so called "maker-taker" fee model.
Mar 12 14:47:38 <MJR_>	exactly what pgp said
Mar 12 14:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	pgp the reason is they're mixing bizdev with the fee schedule.
Mar 12 14:48:37 <pigeons>	mjr_ where have you been? bitininstant lost usd a few days ago
Mar 12 14:48:45 <pigeons>	what about bitcoinica? what about every single one?
Mar 12 14:48:48 <MJR_>	...
Mar 12 14:49:00 <MJR_>	they stole usd from the servers
Mar 12 14:49:07 <MJR_>	?
Mar 12 14:49:11 <pigeons>	yes
Mar 12 14:49:14 <pgp>	moreover, because like asset exchanges belong to the same "clearing clubs", they can route orders to one another to ensure "best execution" for their customers (while, of course, charging for that convenience)...
Mar 12 14:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	yeah ?
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Mar 12 14:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons wait. didn't bitinstant lose the BTC on vircurex ?
Mar 12 14:50:07 <MJR_>	front page hackers used DNS to steal 12000 worth of BITCOINS
Mar 12 14:50:18 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: usd
Mar 12 14:50:24 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 12 14:50:38 <mircea_popescu>	usure ? cause i wrote about this and iirc shrem was saying btc
Mar 12 14:50:39 <pigeons>	via paypal from vircurex
Mar 12 14:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	i'll add it to research list cause wtf.
Mar 12 14:51:27 <pgp>	they weren't using two factor auth with that exchange...
Mar 12 14:51:36 <pizzaman1337>	http://blog.bitinstant.com/blog/2013/3/4/events-of-friday-bitinstant-back-online.html
Mar 12 14:51:45 <pizzaman1337>	"Overall, due to major choke points and redundancies in our system, the hacker was only able to walk away with $12,480 USD in BTC, and send them in 3 installments of 333 BTC to bitcoin addresses."
Mar 12 14:51:45 <pigeons>	sorry i meant virwox
Mar 12 14:51:51 <pgp>	you can lead a horse to water
Mar 12 14:53:29 <MJR_>	they listed the loss in dollars, but you can't send cash over a wire
Mar 12 14:54:04 <MJR_>	BTC was stolen
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Mar 12 14:55:46 <MJR_>	anyway I think there is a ton of room for competition to mt gox
Mar 12 14:56:21 <mod6>	yeah
Mar 12 14:56:34 <mod6>	there needs to be at least 3
Mar 12 14:56:50 <mod6>	all independant of eachother that aren't scams
Mar 12 14:56:50 <MJR_>	but even better opportunity for someone to route flow between exchanges
Mar 12 14:57:10 <MJR_>	lol, not being scams is key
Mar 12 14:57:13 <mod6>	and security
Mar 12 14:57:23 <mod6>	if they were modeled after mpex, that'd be a start
Mar 12 14:57:46 <MJR_>	I really think a gpg based order system would be nice
Mar 12 14:57:55 <mod6>	not the SAME code, but similar to avoid attacks upon a weakness found in one
Mar 12 14:58:09 <mod6>	similar to rootservers
Mar 12 14:58:14 <MJR_>	I agree
Mar 12 14:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 one of the key reasons why i keep the code closed.
Mar 12 14:58:25 <mod6>	*nod*
Mar 12 14:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	people would just mindlessly replicate it (see bitfinex) then we'll be well fucked
Mar 12 14:58:34 <MJR_>	but also...I really think node and branch will be needed
Mar 12 14:58:55 <mod6>	and really... the UDP (TCP when needed) is a model that the guys should be looking at to solve this blocksize issue
Mar 12 14:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	in a sense mpex is constructed exactly opposite of how bitcoin is constructed.
Mar 12 14:59:08 <mod6>	any thoughts on that? anyone know what I'm referring to?
Mar 12 14:59:11 <mircea_popescu>	keep the specification open and the implementation proprietary
Mar 12 14:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	versus the keep the specification equal to the unreadable codebase.
Mar 12 14:59:22 <MJR_>	know exactly what you are talking about
Mar 12 14:59:51 <jcpham>	you access mpex through open standards
Mar 12 14:59:53 <MJR_>	I wrote a program to monitor how often we need to fail over to TCp for our data feeds
Mar 12 14:59:58 <jcpham>	how it works is not your concern
Mar 12 15:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 originally i thought it was udp p2p
Mar 12 15:00:23 <jcpham>	unicorns are definitely walking in hamster wheels though
Mar 12 15:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://zgp.org/pipermail/p2p-hackers/2004-December/002221.html
Mar 12 15:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	it is after all 2004s stuff
Mar 12 15:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	but apparently...
Mar 12 15:00:47 <MJR_>	I think it's multicast tcp?
Mar 12 15:01:03 *	mod6 reads
Mar 12 15:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ im not even sure at this point.
Mar 12 15:02:17 <MJR_>	I think bitcoin-assets is the bleeding edge of the bleeding edge
Mar 12 15:03:06 <jurov>	mod6, how would UDP help in blocksize issuie?
Mar 12 15:03:10 <MJR_>	when you think that people on coinbase are probably still in the innovators (before 18%) stage...wow
Mar 12 15:03:55 <pigeons>	really? its second to -otc in stupid
Mar 12 15:04:06 <pigeons>	all your fancy exchange routing will be done via ripple
Mar 12 15:04:31 <MJR_>	I can't remember your exact quote mircea_popescu but something like "if you want to use crypto currency but don't understand cryptography..."
Mar 12 15:04:32 <mod6>	jurov: not UDP
Mar 12 15:04:52 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ something like that.
Mar 12 15:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons why isn't it now ?
Mar 12 15:05:25 <mod6>	jurov: we can learn a thing or two, perhaps, about how DNS solves the issue.  UDP is meant to be fast, and arbitrarily large since forward/reverse zones can contain an large amount of entries.
Mar 12 15:05:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00755 BTC [+]
Mar 12 15:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 of course, the blockszie issue wasn't hitting the transport layer
Mar 12 15:05:48 <MJR_>	I think a central clearing corp, that only needs to transfer the diff between exchanges will be the best way
Mar 12 15:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ except on the day it gets attacked.
Mar 12 15:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	i don't even mean government necessarily.
Mar 12 15:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	look what happened in ny when the clearing corp got flooded
Mar 12 15:06:16 <mod6>	but when the size of UDP gets over 65,535 bytes (need to double check), it simply converts it to TCP and sends it that way.  something can be learned from this, nothing more.
Mar 12 15:06:17 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: cause people are transitioning from doing it via the private standalone django app to the new ripple but it is being done now
Mar 12 15:06:31 <mod6>	im not saying about the transport, or anything
Mar 12 15:06:40 <mod6>	im simply saying, look at how this problem was solved
Mar 12 15:06:45 <MJR_>	true
Mar 12 15:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons on superficial analysis ripple seems just the place where the curerent bitcoindev rats will sucrry to
Mar 12 15:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	once they get their altar broken for reals.
Mar 12 15:07:37 <pigeons>	yes perhaps, but currency liquidity flowed throug it before and will continue too,
Mar 12 15:07:45 <mod6>	i dunno, i guess i'd have to spend some time in there.  and the client needs to be combed through
Mar 12 15:07:48 <mod6>	and hacked
Mar 12 15:07:57 <jurov>	mod6, maximal packet size (or MTU) is hard fact baked into ethernet from the beginning, not some broker earlier implementation
Mar 12 15:08:03 <mod6>	slice and dice shit out of there that needs to be replaced.
Mar 12 15:08:03 <jurov>	*broken
Mar 12 15:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 actually once you're done with the iphone app, a very good use of someone's time is to go through the codebase and summarize it
Mar 12 15:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	that;s usually a good step towards specification.
Mar 12 15:08:37 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: what iphone app?
Mar 12 15:08:38 <mod6>	i never wanted to touch bitcoin's client or anything else because the #bitcoin-dev is filled with pompus retards
Mar 12 15:08:48 <mod6>	so i'll just my retard ass out of there
Mar 12 15:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ the bitotter thing he's working on
Mar 12 15:08:58 <MJR_>	ah cool
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Mar 12 15:09:13 <jurov>	mod6 good for ya. i did touch it and it didn't hurt.
Mar 12 15:09:27 <jurov>	but maybe i'm just crazy, going into anything
Mar 12 15:09:44 <jurov>	without such considerations
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Mar 12 15:10:00 <mod6>	i'd love to take the time to audit that shit, but who wants to fight with LukeJr and the others?
Mar 12 15:10:05 <mod6>	aint noone got time for that
Mar 12 15:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 i don't know who's listening to them.
Mar 12 15:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	a summary of the codebase is definitely useful.
Mar 12 15:11:04 <kakobrekla>	oh i read that "in summary the coinbase is defenetly useful" and got a heart attack almost
Mar 12 15:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 12 15:11:24 <kakobrekla>	need more coffee.
Mar 12 15:11:51 <MJR_>	ain't no one got time for that indeed
Mar 12 15:12:33 <mod6>	yeah. its way out of hand
Mar 12 15:12:39 <jcpham>	http://micropoll.com/t/LE9JQZQhrI
Mar 12 15:12:46 <jcpham>	i'm doing much better in the poll today
Mar 12 15:12:55 <jurov>	mod6 i'm not interested in arguing. if i had time, i'll do a fork with some very useful function and wait for them to come
Mar 12 15:13:05 <mod6>	^^^
Mar 12 15:13:08 <jurov>	like my two independent wallets prototype: https://github.com/jurov/bitcoin
Mar 12 15:13:28 <mod6>	nice dude
Mar 12 15:13:58 <mod6>	any reason CPP?
Mar 12 15:14:21 <jurov>	cuz it's fork of bitcoind
Mar 12 15:14:24 <mod6>	or you just cloned and went forward?
Mar 12 15:14:25 <mod6>	ok
Mar 12 15:14:52 <jurov>	wasn't hard... couldn't understand why that function isn't exposed already
Mar 12 15:14:57 <mod6>	yeah, its WAY too large imho
Mar 12 15:15:04 <jurov>	prolly they don't have time to test properly xD
Mar 12 15:15:26 <mod6>	thats obvious to everyone in the world who pays attention
Mar 12 15:15:34 <mod6>	they should back away after this
Mar 12 15:16:31 <jurov>	well, they preferred to entagle themselves in multisig txs at the time
Mar 12 15:16:52 <jurov>	incidentally, they still don't have sane interface, too
Mar 12 15:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much everything about it is kludge.
Mar 12 15:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	i am still steaming over the fact that i can't create abitrary size txs
Mar 12 15:18:25 <jurov>	let's get to budapest for buncha asics and outmine them http://primeasic.com/order.php
Mar 12 15:18:48 <jurov>	lmao DUE TO OVERWHELMING REQUESTS we had to remove PayPal & Local Pickup options.
Mar 12 15:18:50 <mircea_popescu>	that thing stil around ?!
Mar 12 15:18:57 <mircea_popescu>	lolok
Mar 12 15:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	btc only rite ?
Mar 12 15:19:29 <jurov>	yes, only nonreversable nonpersonal means. fyr maximum security.
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Mar 12 15:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	due to overwhelming miner vote.
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Mar 12 15:24:59 <mod6>	for starters who does this? Dbc* pcursor = db.GetCursor();
Mar 12 15:25:45 <mod6>	i just hate looking at the client code.  maybe its just their style.
Mar 12 15:26:06 <mod6>	its like: Dbc *pcursor = db.GetCursor();
Mar 12 15:26:08 <mod6>	wtf
Mar 12 15:26:18 <mod6>	lol
Mar 12 15:26:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3449 BTC [-]
Mar 12 15:26:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+]
Mar 12 15:27:18 <mod6>	at least the SSL code they copied looks to be better: BN_CTX *ctx = NULL;
Mar 12 15:27:27 <pigeons>	cross-posting for mircea_popescu cause he'll love it http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1a5um4/bitcointalk_a_successful_double_spend_us10000/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=Fancy+Show+Tech
Mar 12 15:27:59 <mircea_popescu>	bah.
Mar 12 15:28:47 <mod6>	ok i gotta walk away for a bit and think about this some more.
Mar 12 15:29:08 <mod6>	i still <3 you guys tho :)
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Mar 12 15:30:14 <MJR_>	:)
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Mar 12 15:49:13 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: what do you mean by arbitrarily-sized transactions?
Mar 12 15:49:20 <benkay>	actual kb on disk?
Mar 12 15:49:25 <benkay>	or in mem i suppose
Mar 12 15:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	i want to make a 750kb tx.
Mar 12 15:51:14 <mircea_popescu>	you know, 5000 inputs, 7000 outputs. my business.
Mar 12 15:52:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.076 BTC [-]
Mar 12 15:52:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.076 BTC [-]
Mar 12 15:52:23 <benkay>	mhm.
Mar 12 15:52:39 <benkay>	but noooooooo
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Mar 12 15:53:42 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: lol?
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Mar 12 15:53:58 <Anduck>	and pay a huge fee of.. 0.1 btc!!
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Mar 12 15:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	that's my problem.
Mar 12 15:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	if the block can take it i can make it.
Mar 12 15:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	nobody gets to say i can't,
Mar 12 15:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	and more importantly bitcoind doesnt die with "failed to create transaction"
Mar 12 15:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	this sort of shit belongs in onboard code for vibrating dildoes at the most.
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Mar 12 15:56:47 <Lyspooner>	what about those of us who have been running 0.9
Mar 12 15:56:49 <Lyspooner>	?
Mar 12 15:57:40 <benkay>	now now.
Mar 12 15:57:51 <benkay>	it's a transient state. frustrating to be sure.
Mar 12 15:58:19 <benkay>	especially to those of us accustomed to flushing idiots out of systems with economics.
Mar 12 15:58:42 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 12 15:58:49 <benkay>	you mentioned something about the dev team starting work on a spec?
Mar 12 15:58:56 <benkay>	would you point me at that?
Mar 12 15:58:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 12 15:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	i mentioned something about how they;'d better
Mar 12 15:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	or else.
Mar 12 15:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.msg1617104#msg1617104 latest installment of bitchslapping
Mar 12 16:00:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.724999 BTC [+]
Mar 12 16:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	sipa	jgarzik: have we seen a block which affected 5000 transaction index entries?
Mar 12 16:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	jgarzik	sipa: I don't think so
Mar 12 16:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	so much for testing
Mar 12 16:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	motherfucking...
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Mar 12 16:03:10 <Lyspooner>	The Church of Bitcoin and the Vatican Bitcoin Foundation have met Luther Popescu
Mar 12 16:05:09 <mod6>	so can we rewind the tape just a bit...
Mar 12 16:05:21 <mod6>	didn't this happen or something very similar to it before?
Mar 12 16:05:51 <mod6>	like on upgrade from version 4 to 5 or something? there was a night where they did an upgrade and the similar thing happened.
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Mar 12 16:06:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 87 @ 0.00559 = 0.4863 BTC [+]
Mar 12 16:07:00 <mod6>	i gotta look through btctalk for that *sigh*
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Mar 12 16:09:13 <mod6>	awe fuck it, i guess that's long ago anyway.
Mar 12 16:09:16 <mod6>	i hate that site
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Mar 12 16:11:18 <jurov>	mircea_popescu one thing i don't understand, you aren't going to hire any devs yourself cause it isn't worth the conflict and drama?
Mar 12 16:11:32 <jurov>	what do you plan to do, then?
Mar 12 16:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	jurov atm the plan ios to push for spec
Mar 12 16:11:49 <mod6>	it shouldn't be up to one dude to pay for all this shit...
Mar 12 16:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	and ideally remove the current devteam's license to release new clients.
Mar 12 16:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	past this point.
Mar 12 16:12:17 <jurov>	and who will do the spec? have any allies to do it together?
Mar 12 16:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	then once we have spec they can fix their fucked codebase and release a proper client
Mar 12 16:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : perhaps. one sec
Mar 12 16:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.msg1614847#msg1614847
Mar 12 16:13:15 <mod6>	i just feel like, this should be like a HACK THE PLANET type thing, and people who want this to work will make it work.
Mar 12 16:14:01 <mod6>	im not sure what planet these guys are on, but if this is their baby and they have commitbits to the most widely used full-node base, they aught to make sure it functions correctly.
Mar 12 16:14:28 <mod6>	anyway, drives me up a wall, I'll tell you. :)
Mar 12 16:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
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Mar 12 16:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.574 = 1.148 BTC [-]
Mar 12 16:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	jurov anyway, the problem isn't as much the drama, but moreover that a single-source codebase is both non-bitcoiny and suspect.
Mar 12 16:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	but i think if we can get one (or ideally multiple) people to summarize the code
Mar 12 16:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	we can pretty much derive a spec from there.
Mar 12 16:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	this wouldn't take much longer than a few weeks for a first draft, which can then be argued and refined
Mar 12 16:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	in my experience any devteam resists such an effort like cats resist washing, because coders love to write but hate having to read code.
Mar 12 16:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	hiowever, once it's complete there's a few day's worth of facepalming and going "wait, we are doing W?HAT ?!"
Mar 12 16:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57577575 BTC [+]
Mar 12 16:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	after which everything's much better.
Mar 12 16:20:59 <mod6>	this is a solid plan.
Mar 12 16:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57999999 BTC [+]
Mar 12 16:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 in experience it tends to work.
Mar 12 16:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	of course it has to first get the cat into the washing machine.
Mar 12 16:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.58 = 3.48 BTC [+]
Mar 12 16:22:07 <mod6>	:}
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Mar 12 16:22:33 <jurov>	well, i'd love to and have no problems to read others code.. just that i'm neck deep elsewhere atm.
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Mar 12 16:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	i understand
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Mar 12 16:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	why it's called open source after all, sits there and waits for when / who has time for it
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Mar 12 16:23:56 <jurov>	oh, that happens with all opensource without paid devs
Mar 12 16:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	here are the problems that i don't know how to solve.
Mar 12 16:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	a. i hire someone. well... this opens the political problem of "oh, he's mp's puppet".
Mar 12 16:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	b. i set up a prize which anyone may claim. well... this opens the idiocy problem of "oh, I don'tneed his money, what does me take for, a starving artist????"
Mar 12 16:25:21 <mod6>	right. no, this needs to be something that is adopted by the users of the system.
Mar 12 16:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	+ "it's not enough" drama  + trying to get the pruize with as little work as possible etc
Mar 12 16:25:50 <mircea_popescu>	i'm kinda stuck to just talking atm because a and b.
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Mar 12 16:25:55 <jurov>	just hire someone. this muppet argument will ensue but code/doc will remain in the end
Mar 12 16:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps.
Mar 12 16:26:09 <jurov>	i remember something like with linux and redhat
Mar 12 16:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	it's in any case not something i have to call today.
Mar 12 16:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	jurov certainly.
Mar 12 16:27:23 <jurov>	maybe i'll hire amir taaki.. he'll do gladly for food and shelter
Mar 12 16:27:25 <mod6>	well, i think this bitcoin project is again an "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US." type of thing.
Mar 12 16:27:51 <jurov>	mod6 what outer space metaphors are you onto again....
Mar 12 16:28:00 <mod6>	the best kind
Mar 12 16:28:42 <dub>	so this fucking agent calls me in yesterday to show the same offer as last week, only on paper
Mar 12 16:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i bet you i can tell you have just by reading his output
Mar 12 16:28:58 <dub>	because numbers look different than they sound obviously
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Mar 12 16:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	ban them.
Mar 12 16:31:26 <benkay>	what are you taking offers on, dub?
Mar 12 16:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	russian bride
Mar 12 16:32:11 <jurov>	lol the vride isn't up to specs
Mar 12 16:32:14 <jurov>	*bride
Mar 12 16:32:26 <dub>	benkay: houses
Mar 12 16:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	jurov she's a little worn i nplaces.
Mar 12 16:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	and there's a crack
Mar 12 16:33:00 <mod6>	So, what I'm saying is, I think it's a really good thing to create a spec, and then everyone can punch eachother in the nuts over it until its perfect.  This is the way to go.
Mar 12 16:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	more like a gash really.
Mar 12 16:33:10 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 werd.
Mar 12 16:33:46 <benkay>	there will eventually be an incentive for the miners to disregard devsquad
Mar 12 16:33:58 <benkay>	in retrospect, i'm a little surprised they didn't this time
Mar 12 16:34:04 <mod6>	I think, at least for myself, every time I had to write a paper, or have written some code; I've gone back the next day or at some later date and done a `wtf?'
Mar 12 16:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	benkay exactly.
Mar 12 16:34:18 <benkay>	^^ erryday.
Mar 12 16:34:34 <mod6>	even the other night, i wrote that code quick that worked. i mean, it kinda worked, in the way that it fucked a donkey.
Mar 12 16:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	the btcguild people got fucked for ~2k btc because of it.
Mar 12 16:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	this keeps up, soon enough idiots will not have the dough to keep going
Mar 12 16:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	much like btc finance was cleanned up.
Mar 12 16:34:54 <mod6>	but then you know, you review, you think about it, you make changes and it gets better.
Mar 12 16:35:02 <benkay>	it's a painful process
Mar 12 16:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	good.
Mar 12 16:35:28 <benkay>	dunno if i agree about that.
Mar 12 16:35:30 <jurov>	mod6 yea but if you don't painstakingly document it it just won't go past some threshold
Mar 12 16:35:39 <benkay>	i don't optimize for pain.
Mar 12 16:35:42 <benkay>	rather the opposite.
Mar 12 16:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	i do.
Mar 12 16:35:47 <benkay>	heh.
Mar 12 16:35:48 <mircea_popescu>	it delivers superb results.
Mar 12 16:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	the more people are hurt, the better stuff comes out.
Mar 12 16:35:57 <mod6>	i beat dead horses
Mar 12 16:36:00 <Lyspooner>	where'd the 2k btc figure come from?
Mar 12 16:36:05 <mod6>	i've said that before. but usually my code works too.
Mar 12 16:36:08 <mod6>	;]
Mar 12 16:36:18 <jurov>	yes bitcoind usually works, too
Mar 12 16:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner they lost ~1.2k because the new .8 redownloaded the chain and they autopaid miners submitting as if low diff
Mar 12 16:36:23 <mod6>	haha
Mar 12 16:36:23 <benkay>	i optimize for pleasure within my in-group, and i let the rest of the world experience their own mistakes.
Mar 12 16:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	they lost a further however much cause of discarded blocks
Mar 12 16:37:13 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu were they auto-paying miners with coins older than 120 blocks since mined?
Mar 12 16:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	yes, the op was quite clear about having lost the 1.2k
Mar 12 16:37:48 <Lyspooner>	isn't that the op's fault then?
Mar 12 16:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	cause they did what tho ? upgraded ?
Mar 12 16:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	sure, it's their fault.
Mar 12 16:38:11 <Lyspooner>	anything faster than 120 blocks is the ops fault
Mar 12 16:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	because why ?
Mar 12 16:38:41 <Lyspooner>	they are paying miners with fresher coins than is safe
Mar 12 16:38:49 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think you understand the problem.
Mar 12 16:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	as the blockchain was being downloaded, the difficulty was corresponding to very old blocks, ie, very low.
Mar 12 16:39:06 <jurov>	Lyspooner pools attract noobs on fast payouts, is that surprising for you?
Mar 12 16:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	as miners submitted current work, they were paid for their share of contribution to that low difficulty
Mar 12 16:39:19 <mircea_popescu>	ie, very much.
Mar 12 16:40:29 <Lyspooner>	maybe i misunderstand mining pools' payouts.  but if i do work now, i shouldn't be paid until t+120
Mar 12 16:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	yea well it's not how it works out in practice.
Mar 12 16:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	and speaking of that 120... YET MORE MAGIC NUMBERS FUCKING HELL
Mar 12 16:41:08 <Lyspooner>	but that's the risk that mining pool ops assume
Mar 12 16:41:16 <jurov>	kakobrekla you didn't got doublespended on smpake.com?
Mar 12 16:41:32 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner not detachedly from the general "trusting devteam" risk
Mar 12 16:41:37 <kakobrekla>	smpake is not operating since jan
Mar 12 16:41:39 <jurov>	ah smpake is down
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Mar 12 16:43:54 <mod6>	(13:35) < jurov> mod6 yea but if you don't painstakingly document it it just won't go past some threshold << documentation is amazing
Mar 12 16:44:20 <mod6>	i've read tons of technical manuals.  i quite like the strangely.
Mar 12 16:44:23 <mod6>	*them
Mar 12 16:44:53 <mod6>	but... it doesn't have to be 50 volumes to be helpful either.
Mar 12 16:45:01 <mod6>	cause the source speaks volumes itself
Mar 12 16:45:36 <mod6>	but there can always be a little guidence on how it is designed, why something is implemented the way it is, etc.
Mar 12 16:46:14 <mod6>	i feel like we need a bitcoin RFC
Mar 12 16:46:56 <Namworld>	!ticker
Mar 12 16:46:57 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Mar 12 16:47:05 <Namworld>	hmm, assbot is there
Mar 12 16:47:20 <assbot>	 sup mah niggah
Mar 12 16:47:46 <maximian>	assbot thinks its people
Mar 12 16:47:53 <maximian>	;;ticker
Mar 12 16:47:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.97092, Best ask: 46.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02908, Last trade: 46.00000, 24 hour volume: 179859.80684158, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.39999, 24 hour vwap: 43.75220
Mar 12 16:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 12 16:49:49 <maximian>	market doesn't seem terribly concerned about about all this
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Mar 12 16:50:03 <maximian>	at least for now
Mar 12 16:50:40 <jurov>	and seeing evoorhees, "blockchain forks. satoshi dice not affected" i guess
Mar 12 16:51:21 <maximian>	SatoshiDice bet sizes not being affected by the exchange rate is a nice surprise
Mar 12 16:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	github down ?
Mar 12 16:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	jurov he had processing turned off for a little.
Mar 12 16:56:19 <jurov>	that would be funny if satoshidice kept functional on both sides of the fork
Mar 12 16:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it would be trivial to implement
Mar 12 16:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	idiot parade is lucky that evoorhees is a sweetheard, even if they treat him like dirt.
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Mar 12 17:05:43 <mod6>	(12:08) < mircea_popescu> mod6 actually once you're done with the iphone app, a very good use of someone's time is to go through the codebase and summarize it
Mar 12 17:05:46 <mod6>	(12:08) < mircea_popescu> that;s usually a good step towards specification.
Mar 12 17:06:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00559 = 0.1118 BTC [+]
Mar 12 17:06:08 <mod6>	maybe bitotter can wait
Mar 12 17:06:36 <mod6>	cause i feel like i want to clone and start going through this thing again.  last year, I made a shit load of my own changes to get it working on freebsd properly.
Mar 12 17:07:09 <mod6>	anyway, I'll pull to linux and go through the code.
Mar 12 17:07:31 <mod6>	i wont start by making any changes to the source, just review it as I can.
Mar 12 17:07:52 <mod6>	yall should be doing the same thing.
Mar 12 17:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 but listen
Mar 12 17:09:57 <mircea_popescu>	you gotta finish projects too
Mar 12 17:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	if you only start them, work for some, then start new one... lot of wasted work man.
Mar 12 17:10:38 <mod6>	well, fair enough.
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Mar 12 17:19:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
Mar 12 17:21:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 12 17:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.msg1617557#msg1617557
Mar 12 17:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	for your pleasure.
Mar 12 17:25:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1987 = 0.3974 BTC [+]
Mar 12 17:26:48 <Lyspooner>	what's a spec
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Mar 12 17:30:19 <Lyspooner>	http://i.imgur.com/NncJ5fI.jpg
Mar 12 17:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	a specification
Mar 12 17:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	spec stands to code in the same relationship contract stands to trade.
Mar 12 17:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	you can have trade without contracts but it's a recipe for disaster.
Mar 12 17:31:51 <Lyspooner>	i understand it only metaphorically now
Mar 12 17:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	that puts you muchly ahead of bitcoin-dev people.
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Mar 12 17:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	they don't understand it at all.
Mar 12 17:33:14 <Lyspooner>	sweet
Mar 12 17:33:22 <Lyspooner>	i'm going to start a foundation
Mar 12 17:33:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 24 @ 0.00999 = 0.2398 BTC [+]
Mar 12 17:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Mar 12 17:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	P T Barnum's Magical Trading Cards & Bitcoin Esoteric Foundation ?
Mar 12 17:36:14 <Lyspooner>	I was thinking: The Bitcoin Best Guess Foundation
Mar 12 17:36:36 <Lyspooner>	or Whatever Kinda Works
Mar 12 17:37:17 <mircea_popescu>	or that yeah
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Mar 12 18:10:52 <dub>	heres some low hanging fruit for you mircea_popescu. <pjorrit_> we really should get a SD on testnet
Mar 12 18:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	what's that to do with me ?
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Mar 12 18:11:42 <dub>	you aren't on a quest to rescue bitcoin from mediocraty?
Mar 12 18:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	i set myself much lower goald.
Mar 12 18:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	goals*
Mar 12 18:12:59 <dub>	shivving a few poindexters more your speed
Mar 12 18:13:25 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Mar 12 18:13:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.52000, Best ask: 44.55501, Bid-ask spread: 0.03501, Last trade: 44.55501, 24 hour volume: 182706.33065327, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.39999, 24 hour vwap: 43.75828
Mar 12 18:18:07 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu
Mar 12 18:18:16 <Ukto>	if I put a test bot trade announcer in here
Mar 12 18:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	that's me.
Mar 12 18:18:18 <Ukto>	will you be happy?
Mar 12 18:18:20 <Ukto>	just announcing for now
Mar 12 18:18:26 <Ukto>	in alpha test mode
Mar 12 18:18:27 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 12 18:18:28 <mircea_popescu>	like a diff bot ? sure.
Mar 12 18:18:38 <Ukto>	but would you stop whining about trades? :P
Mar 12 18:18:49 *	Ukto jabs @ mircea_popescu
Mar 12 18:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	atm im goingthrough the summary of the bitcoin-dev session for the 12th
Mar 12 18:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think there's much hope for the current dev team, seriously.
Mar 12 18:19:36 <Ukto>	switch to litecoin
Mar 12 18:19:37 *	Ukto grins
Mar 12 18:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	anyone "upgrading" to any further crap they release is irresponsible from a business perspective.
Mar 12 18:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	we need an actual trustworthy bitcoin implementation asap.
Mar 12 18:19:49 <Ukto>	i think were better off with btc's team than nothing
Mar 12 18:19:58 <Ukto>	meh
Mar 12 18:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	atm bitcoin is forked, in the sense that some kids are in jerkoff lalaland
Mar 12 18:20:01 <Ukto>	i am not using their crap
Mar 12 18:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	whereas the protocol is unimplemented.
Mar 12 18:20:11 <Ukto>	i am using a highly customized version
Mar 12 18:20:15 <kakobrekla>	assbot is for assets trades
Mar 12 18:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto no, atm we'd be better of if everyone in devteam were under a bus.
Mar 12 18:20:19 <Ukto>	which is why I wasnt effected
Mar 12 18:20:22 <kakobrekla>	we wont have 10 different ones here
Mar 12 18:20:36 <kakobrekla>	its really simple to implement, just ask the others.
Mar 12 18:20:39 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: will you write websocket support?
Mar 12 18:20:46 <Ukto>	i dont want systems banging on my webservers
Mar 12 18:20:52 <Ukto>	i just paid someone to write it
Mar 12 18:20:54 <Ukto>	to make ppl happy
Mar 12 18:21:05 <Ukto>	since no one else can get with the times
Mar 12 18:21:10 <Ukto>	and stop using archaic technology
Mar 12 18:21:11 <kakobrekla>	ill make websocket when you have 10 trades per second consistently
Mar 12 18:21:25 <Ukto>	well now you dont have to worry
Mar 12 18:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	that;'ll be fun to watch in chan lmao
Mar 12 18:21:31 <Ukto>	i have it running
Mar 12 18:21:46 <Ukto>	same format for trade display
Mar 12 18:21:49 <kakobrekla>	the thing is there is one protocol by which all exchanges go
Mar 12 18:21:59 <kakobrekla>	take it or leave it
Mar 12 18:22:03 <Ukto>	then the other exchanges should move into the present
Mar 12 18:22:21 *	Ukto eyes mircea_popescu
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Mar 12 18:23:05 <Ukto>	sorry, but I know how to create platforms that dont buckle under load when they get a large userbase
Mar 12 18:23:12 <Ukto>	do it right the first time
Mar 12 18:23:15 <Ukto>	or just be a fuckup
Mar 12 18:23:18 *	Ukto points to goxlag
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Mar 12 18:23:28 <FabianB>	Ukto: how's a push from your system to assbot 'banging your server'? if i understand it right assbot doesn't pull from your servers
Mar 12 18:23:45 <Ukto>	enabling the 15sec call requests on the graphs on bf
Mar 12 18:23:52 <Ukto>	caused a laod increase of 5% on the servers
Mar 12 18:23:59 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 12 18:24:00 <Ukto>	with all the extra unneeded sql queries
Mar 12 18:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	new mpex webserver coming online imminently.
Mar 12 18:24:15 <maximian>	nice!
Mar 12 18:24:17 <Ukto>	380 requests every other second
Mar 12 18:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	there will be a trade freeze, should be no more than ~10 minutes, will be announced in advance
Mar 12 18:24:37 <kakobrekla>	so you can do 380 but you cant do 382
Mar 12 18:24:44 <Ukto>	i dont do them
Mar 12 18:24:45 <Ukto>	i turned it off
Mar 12 18:24:49 <kakobrekla>	w/e
Mar 12 18:24:51 <Ukto>	about to turn on websockets for the browser
Mar 12 18:25:00 <kakobrekla>	good for you
Mar 12 18:25:01 <Ukto>	will create no extra load
Mar 12 18:25:03 <Ukto>	and everything will work
Mar 12 18:25:09 <Ukto>	if you tell me no bot in here
Mar 12 18:25:13 <Ukto>	thats fine
Mar 12 18:25:16 <Ukto>	i will put it in #bitfunder
Mar 12 18:25:20 <Ukto>	and people can watch it there if they want
Mar 12 18:25:23 <kakobrekla>	theres assbot.
Mar 12 18:25:49 <kakobrekla>	mpex is a special case
Mar 12 18:25:57 <Ukto>	i was trying to be nice and paid to have something done to make people happy
Mar 12 18:26:01 <maximian>	now blockchain.info is getting the DDoS treatment: https://twitter.com/blockchain/status/311591961268215809
Mar 12 18:26:01 <Ukto>	i could honestly care less about it announcing in here
Mar 12 18:26:02 <kakobrekla>	you are being just silly
Mar 12 18:26:05 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: do you have a link to the bitcoin-dev summary you're referring to?
Mar 12 18:26:08 <kakobrekla>	good!
Mar 12 18:26:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 12 18:26:11 <kakobrekla>	then dont do it
Mar 12 18:26:13 <Ukto>	i think your beig silly by not letting another bot
Mar 12 18:26:28 <Ukto>	one with no commands
Mar 12 18:26:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [+]
Mar 12 18:26:29 <kakobrekla>	you dont care but you care enough to bring another bot?
Mar 12 18:26:29 <Ukto>	at all
Mar 12 18:26:38 <Ukto>	just to make people happy
Mar 12 18:26:38 <kakobrekla>	how does that work
Mar 12 18:26:41 <Ukto>	otherwise its not my issue
Mar 12 18:26:41 <kakobrekla>	aha
Mar 12 18:26:46 <Ukto>	if the channel operator doesnt want it
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Mar 12 18:26:52 <Ukto>	ppl want to see trades on irc
Mar 12 18:26:54 <Ukto>	fine
Mar 12 18:26:54 <Troic>	read it all here http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2013/03
Mar 12 18:26:57 <Ukto>	they can do itwhever the bot is allowed
Mar 12 18:27:11 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: you will need to join #bitfunder if you want to see the trades if he wont allow it
Mar 12 18:27:20 <Ukto>	otherwise i dont want to hear any more complaints about it
Mar 12 18:27:20 <kakobrekla>	the other exchanges had no problem intergrating
Mar 12 18:27:21 <Ukto>	end of story.
Mar 12 18:27:23 <kakobrekla>	it was done in 10 min
Mar 12 18:27:33 <kakobrekla>	strange you have one.
Mar 12 18:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	this is going well
Mar 12 18:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo no, as it's not public. but you can have  the source http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2013/03/12
Mar 12 18:28:32 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: so you want me to make a custom GET/POST request script
Mar 12 18:28:38 <Ukto>	specially for your bot to bang every 5 seconds ?
Mar 12 18:29:05 <kakobrekla>	if a onliner means 'custom get post script' then yes
Mar 12 18:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i don't think you understand how this works
Mar 12 18:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	you post to his server not the other way around
Mar 12 18:29:33 <Ukto>	that would never work then
Mar 12 18:29:42 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: Thanks.
Mar 12 18:29:57 <Ukto>	the server remains behind protection for a reason as not to have the ips given out
Mar 12 18:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto how to you publish on twitter ?
Mar 12 18:30:12 <Ukto>	twitter is not a person on irc
Mar 12 18:30:16 <Ukto>	and part of the btc community
Mar 12 18:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	so use a proxy
Mar 12 18:30:27 <Ukto>	and thts prolly going to stop honestly
Mar 12 18:30:31 <Ukto>	it has no real use
Mar 12 18:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	wait. jhow are you going to implement ipless websockets ?!
Mar 12 18:30:46 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: i already todl you that
Mar 12 18:30:51 <Ukto>	the main servers ip
Mar 12 18:30:53 <Ukto>	is not revealed
Mar 12 18:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	but if you connect via sockets, you expose an ip
Mar 12 18:31:12 <Ukto>	not to end users
Mar 12 18:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	but to the same people you'd be post-ing to
Mar 12 18:31:22 <Ukto>	only to the socket network
Mar 12 18:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	oh, that socket network thing
Mar 12 18:31:39 <Ukto>	yes
Mar 12 18:31:55 <Ukto>	it removes all load on information distribution
Mar 12 18:32:07 <Ukto>	I was discussing it with tux as well
Mar 12 18:32:20 <Ukto>	to lower load on the servers
Mar 12 18:33:14 <kakobrekla>	so the conclusion is Ukto cant afford a post per trade
Mar 12 18:33:27 <Ukto>	anywho, we were at a crossroads, i didnt want to custom for your bot because its really a waste of time when theres a simple method for it. I paid someone to make a work around. you say NO for no real reason. thas that
Mar 12 18:33:33 <Ukto>	i drop the subect
Mar 12 18:33:38 <Ukto>	call me a jew
Mar 12 18:33:40 <Ukto>	i punch those pennies
Mar 12 18:33:41 <Ukto>	:)
Mar 12 18:33:46 <Ukto>	when it comes to load
Mar 12 18:33:47 <Ukto>	and efficiency
Mar 12 18:33:59 <Ukto>	pinch
Mar 12 18:34:01 <Ukto>	even
Mar 12 18:34:02 <kakobrekla>	just a coder mircea_popescu, just a coder.
Mar 12 18:34:58 <Ukto>	and fwiw it took someone 10 minutes to make a websocket announcing bot.
Mar 12 18:35:06 *	Ukto shrugs
Mar 12 18:35:19 <kakobrekla>	and it takes 3 min to post it to assbot
Mar 12 18:35:29 <Ukto>	but that doesnt solve the ip protection issue
Mar 12 18:35:33 <Ukto>	if this channel had 10,000 users i would care more
Mar 12 18:35:38 <Ukto>	it has about 25 active
Mar 12 18:35:47 <Ukto>	30 ppl who lurk at any given time
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Mar 12 18:35:59 <Ukto>	and none of them that respond to trades in here by jumping on an exchange and trading because of it
Mar 12 18:36:03 <kakobrekla>	nobody is forcing you so is all good, dont sweat it
Mar 12 18:36:27 <Ukto>	im not. just tired of people whining that they cant see  the bf trades
Mar 12 18:36:35 <Ukto>	so i made a simple solution
Mar 12 18:36:37 <kakobrekla>	well then you are wrong perhaps
Mar 12 18:36:39 <Ukto>	that causes no conflicts
Mar 12 18:36:40 <Ukto>	or problems
Mar 12 18:36:41 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 12 18:36:44 <kakobrekla>	good!
Mar 12 18:36:53 <Ukto>	other than with you hehe
Mar 12 18:36:54 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 12 18:36:56 <kakobrekla>	lets have a cake or something now
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Mar 12 18:37:09 <Ukto>	i mean honestly, can you give me a good reason why different name cant say the same information?
Mar 12 18:37:21 <Ukto>	what if I manualyl paste them every time? will i get banned?
Mar 12 18:37:26 <jurov>	Ukto, what about tickers?
Mar 12 18:37:35 <Ukto>	jurov: not yet. just announcing
Mar 12 18:37:45 <jurov>	!ticker bf i mean
Mar 12 18:37:46 <assbot>	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Mar 12 18:37:51 <Ukto>	jurov: might be #bf only
Mar 12 18:38:00 <kakobrekla>	assbot is a standard in #bitcoin-assets , in other rooms there can be 252 bots having buttsex for all i care
Mar 12 18:38:14 <Ukto>	I dont want to override the "standard"
Mar 12 18:38:19 <Ukto>	but the sstandard is set in its ways
Mar 12 18:38:56 <Ukto>	its like nano said. if bitcoincharts stops updating its lists of exchanges, he would allow workaround to add new ones
Mar 12 18:39:03 <Ukto>	for -market
Mar 12 18:39:15 <kakobrekla>	maybe some fan of yours will make a script that will listen to your socket and make posts
Mar 12 18:39:17 <kakobrekla>	you never know!
Mar 12 18:39:34 <burnside>	heh
Mar 12 18:39:38 <Ukto>	so if this other person operates the bot and announces in here
Mar 12 18:39:39 <Ukto>	thats fine?
Mar 12 18:39:40 <Ukto>	-_-
Mar 12 18:40:00 <kakobrekla>	are you stupid?
Mar 12 18:40:02 <burnside>	Ukto, can I get api access to BF?
Mar 12 18:40:48 <Ukto>	burnside: the get/post api for bf is currently only opened to 14 ppl and being reworked based on suggestions. debating forcing it all to websocket at this point.
Mar 12 18:41:13 <Ukto>	for reasons I stated earlier
Mar 12 18:41:18 <burnside>	can I be #15?
Mar 12 18:41:43 <Ukto>	pm ?
Mar 12 18:42:04 <kakobrekla>	lol talk about triple standards.
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Mar 12 18:44:11 <dub>	we only do double standards here, its more efficient
Mar 12 18:44:17 <Ukto>	lol
Mar 12 18:44:19 <kakobrekla>	and double blockchain.
Mar 12 18:44:39 <kakobrekla>	now sd can do twice the tx
Mar 12 18:44:45 <kakobrekla>	with same blck size
Mar 12 18:45:01 <benkay>	ukto, this is your problem for not scoping market standards first
Mar 12 18:45:15 <benkay>	it's not our problem to conform to your preferred implementation
Mar 12 18:46:33 <Ukto>	sure :)
Mar 12 18:46:37 <benkay>	if you want trades seen by max people, publish in places they'll be seen.
Mar 12 18:46:48 *	Ukto points to the channel of 125 users
Mar 12 18:46:55 <Ukto>	and i didnt care if they were seen in here or not
Mar 12 18:46:57 <Ukto>	a few ppl asked
Mar 12 18:46:57 <benkay>	head over to otc
Mar 12 18:46:59 <Ukto>	over and over
Mar 12 18:47:00 <Ukto>	so i made something
Mar 12 18:47:04 <Ukto>	end of story
Mar 12 18:47:07 <benkay>	haha
Mar 12 18:47:11 <benkay>	missed the whole lean startup movement
Mar 12 18:47:15 <benkay>	forgot your user research
Mar 12 18:47:15 <Ukto>	if its not wanted, then its not wanted
Mar 12 18:47:18 <benkay>	nobody wants your socket
Mar 12 18:47:30 <Ukto>	thts fine
Mar 12 18:47:34 <kakobrekla>	exactly :)
Mar 12 18:47:34 <benkay>	just 'cause you dumped money into it doesn't give it value.
Mar 12 18:47:35 <Ukto>	they dont have to have it. :)
Mar 12 18:47:45 <benkay>	that's fine. your arrogance will cripple your business.
Mar 12 18:47:54 <Ukto>	tht makes no sense
Mar 12 18:47:58 <benkay>	humility and egoless development will open the doors to users
Mar 12 18:48:00 <Ukto>	"no one wants your socket" "ok" "your arrogent" ?
Mar 12 18:48:01 <kakobrekla>	point benkay.
Mar 12 18:48:37 <benkay>	you're going to have to articulate that argument a little more clearly.
Mar 12 18:48:55 <Ukto>	what argument?
Mar 12 18:49:02 <benkay>	Ukto: "no one wants your socket" "ok" "your arrogent" ?
Mar 12 18:49:21 <benkay>	oh i get it
Mar 12 18:49:24 <Ukto>	you say someone doesnt want something, I said ok. and you called me arrogent for it
Mar 12 18:49:28 <Ukto>	dont understand. :)]
Mar 12 18:49:42 <Ukto>	i agree, no one has to use the sockets if they dont want to
Mar 12 18:49:45 <Ukto>	i wont force it on anyone
Mar 12 18:49:54 <Ukto>	whats the issue?
Mar 12 18:50:04 <benkay>	don't have time to explain.
Mar 12 18:50:09 <benkay>	no issue for me
Mar 12 18:50:15 <Ukto>	then pm me another time and we can talk. :)
Mar 12 18:50:17 <Ukto>	i have none either.
Mar 12 18:50:18 <Ukto>	:)
Mar 12 18:50:34 <benkay>	except for an inherently limited user base watching your data feed :)
Mar 12 18:50:40 <mircea_popescu>	then one wonders how bitcoin base got in such a mess
Mar 12 18:51:16 <FabianB>	sad my bet on bitbet "bitfunder won't announce in #bitcoin-assets by ..." wasn't accepted a few days ago ;)
Mar 12 18:51:25 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Mar 12 18:52:19 <benkay>	sad, why not?
Mar 12 18:52:25 <Ukto>	FabianB: lol
Mar 12 18:52:56 <FabianB>	benkay: could've won :)
Mar 12 18:53:18 <FabianB>	Ukto and kakobrekla just don't get along
Mar 12 18:53:24 <benkay>	implying bitbet only takes losing wagers?
Mar 12 18:53:54 <FabianB>	benkay: no
Mar 12 18:54:08 <Ukto>	FabianB: nah, kako's fine
Mar 12 18:54:12 <Ukto>	i have no issue with em
Mar 12 18:54:39 <Ukto>	i just dont want to use post/get's (which i originalyl thought thats how it worked for the bot since i was never todl otherwise when asked about it)
Mar 12 18:54:54 <Ukto>	and b. i dont issue outbound connections from any of my servers. weexchange, bitfunder, etc
Mar 12 18:55:10 <Ukto>	ust a conflict of standards
Mar 12 18:55:11 <Ukto>	:)
Mar 12 18:55:23 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 12 18:55:28 <kakobrekla>	i can be trusted with mpex ip
Mar 12 18:55:33 <kakobrekla>	which has real ddos threats
Mar 12 18:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	benkay well no but it doesn't take wagers where one person can singlehandedly decide the outcome
Mar 12 18:55:36 <kakobrekla>	but not bitfunder
Mar 12 18:55:37 <kakobrekla>	oh noes!
Mar 12 18:55:41 <benkay>	oh deep.
Mar 12 18:55:42 <mircea_popescu>	too easy to game
Mar 12 18:55:43 <benkay>	derp
Mar 12 18:55:49 <FabianB>	Ukto: not really with a proxy (connecting via websockets to bitfunder and posting to assbot)
Mar 12 18:56:02 <benkay>	yeah
Mar 12 18:56:12 <benkay>	don't trust the good who runs the assbot listening to mpex
Mar 12 18:56:18 <benkay>	dood
Mar 12 18:56:22 <benkay>	man fuck the spellcheck on this client
Mar 12 18:56:23 <Ukto>	I guess i could have the guy change the bot
Mar 12 18:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	i don't have ddos threats lmao
Mar 12 18:56:30 <Ukto>	to accept websocket announces
Mar 12 18:56:34 <dub>	just throw up the socket already and let someone else spend 3 minutes routing around your damage
Mar 12 18:56:36 <Ukto>	and then announce a POST to kako's bot
Mar 12 18:56:36 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 12 18:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	i have a never ending flood of actuall ddos since like the beginning of the month
Mar 12 18:56:49 <FabianB>	Ukto: that
Mar 12 18:57:29 <kakobrekla>	you can bounce it off the moon while you are at it
Mar 12 18:57:31 <kakobrekla>	there are mirros on it
Mar 12 18:57:39 <dub>	mircea_popescu: its just someone sharing their packets with you bro
Mar 12 18:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	dub they seem to have a lot
Mar 12 18:58:23 <Ukto>	kakobrekla: pm me the url and format to post the data
Mar 12 18:58:54 <mircea_popescu>	inb4 "no cause i can't share my ip"
Mar 12 18:59:09 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 12 18:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 12 19:00:06 <Ukto>	or pm me a url to any documentation
Mar 12 19:00:08 <Ukto>	whenever you want.
Mar 12 19:00:27 <kakobrekla>	aha
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Mar 12 19:09:00 <jurov>	Fatal error: Call to undefined function gnupg_init() in /home/polimedi/public_html/bitcoin/index.php on line 200
Mar 12 19:09:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57999999 BTC [-]
Mar 12 19:09:10 <jurov>	guess where it's from ;)
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Mar 12 19:09:37 <wiggzz>	mpex.co... just checked hah
Mar 12 19:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.58 = 2.32 BTC [+]
Mar 12 19:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	lalala
Mar 12 19:11:28 <Ukto>	forgot to install someting? ;)
Mar 12 19:11:57 <Ukto>	php and gnnupg. hated setting that up the first time
Mar 12 19:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto as you might notice, mpex.coinbr.com is doing fine
Mar 12 19:12:42 <Ukto>	why wouldnt it be?
Mar 12 19:13:11 <Ukto>	now that its on a network that can handle things. jurov was scrambling like crazy to get things setup right
Mar 12 19:13:18 <Ukto>	i think it worked out great
Mar 12 19:13:54 <Ukto>	was happy when the live.coinbr graphs started working again. :)
Mar 12 19:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	im just saying, the proxy is on to mpex.
Mar 12 19:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	mpex.co is just new gear being deployed/tested etc
Mar 12 19:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	i guess i should have not dns'd it
Mar 12 19:15:34 <jurov>	why not? the beauty of unfinished things lol
Mar 12 19:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 12 19:31:46 <smickles>	oh that's what's fucking me up
Mar 12 19:32:07 <dub>	today bitcoins dev team is solving the problem of how to ignore people that call them names on the forum
Mar 12 19:32:08 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: do errored links count against my weekly tally? :P
Mar 12 19:32:10 <smickles>	my guiclient is seeing that mpex.co is there so it's sending STAT's to that
Mar 12 19:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	smickles mk im fixing this.
Mar 12 19:32:28 <mircea_popescu>	1 sec
Mar 12 19:32:51 <Bowjob>	meow
Mar 12 19:32:56 <Bowjob>	so what happened
Mar 12 19:32:59 <Bowjob>	we $25
Mar 12 19:33:00 <Bowjob>	or
Mar 12 19:33:05 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 12 19:33:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.11000, Best ask: 44.32800, Bid-ask spread: 0.21800, Last trade: 44.32800, 24 hour volume: 184334.05898785, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.39999, 24 hour vwap: 43.73067
Mar 12 19:33:13 <Bowjob>	there goes my cheap coins
Mar 12 19:33:15 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 12 19:33:49 <dub>	also http://i.imgur.com/NncJ5fI.jpg
Mar 12 19:34:23 <smickles>	lol
Mar 12 19:35:24 <Bowjob>	look at that LTC price rise
Mar 12 19:35:26 <Bowjob>	tsk
Mar 12 19:35:47 <smickles>	what db does ltc use?
Mar 12 19:36:03 <dub>	[19:05] <theymos> Luke-Jr: On the subject of bitcointroll forum, I'm going to add a feature allowing you to mark your topics as self-moderated when you create them. In such topics, the OP can delete replies. That should solve some of your problems.
Mar 12 19:36:04 <pizzaman1337>	I think it's just forked at 0.7 basically
Mar 12 19:36:09 <kakobrekla>	prolly nobody knows cause the devs are all dead
Mar 12 19:36:12 <dub>	that is so fucking broken
Mar 12 19:36:13 <kakobrekla>	like with debian
Mar 12 19:36:19 <smickles>	oh, so the rise in ltc is just an emotional thing
Mar 12 19:36:46 <Bowjob>	ummm its risen even before the fork
Mar 12 19:36:57 <smickles>	dub: we must be able to silence the opposition
Mar 12 19:37:07 <Bowjob>	i sold 10k ltc on the way down, i thought i did well by minimizing my loss
Mar 12 19:37:16 <smickles>	theymos is such an ass
Mar 12 19:37:26 <smickles>	(if that quote is to be believed)
Mar 12 19:37:46 <kakobrekla>	theymos is an ass even w/o the quote
Mar 12 19:38:06 <mircea_popescu>	what's this theymos stuff about ?
Mar 12 19:38:22 <smickles>	so, with that quote, it's official. theymos is from soviet russia
Mar 12 19:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	i thought people were always able to delete their own crap on bitcointalk
Mar 12 19:39:25 <kakobrekla>	> OP can delete replies.
Mar 12 19:39:32 <kakobrekla>	thanks to MPOE-PR!
Mar 12 19:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	what's that, op ?
Mar 12 19:39:45 <kakobrekla>	original poster
Mar 12 19:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 12 19:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	so just don't post in topics created by luke
Mar 12 19:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	(not that anyone does anyway)
Mar 12 19:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	he's sorta like, dev-usagi by now anyway.
Mar 12 19:41:11 <smickles>	the auction section is about to be awesome
Mar 12 19:41:34 <smickles>	or scam accusations, anything really
Mar 12 19:41:57 <smickles>	someone post evidence of you having stolen btc, just delete it
Mar 12 19:42:14 <dub>	he is dev-nefario
Mar 12 19:42:33 <dub>	only gmax actually wants him around
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Mar 12 19:44:45 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 19:44:47 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 12 19:45:02 <kakobrekla>	less than
Mar 12 19:45:04 <kakobrekla>	$mpexlag
Mar 12 19:45:05 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: 0.0897209644318 seconds
Mar 12 19:45:10 <kakobrekla>	ha!
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Mar 12 19:47:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
Mar 12 19:48:39 <smickles>	http://imgur.com/a/vAzaK
Mar 12 19:48:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: ^^
Mar 12 19:50:26 <smickles>	this thing is going to rock on android (for those willing to put their privkey on their phone
Mar 12 19:51:13 <smickles>	aside from that, it's a very pleasing way to use mpex
Mar 12 19:51:19 <mircea_popescu>	eee looks real cool
Mar 12 19:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol wtf, gox offline ?
Mar 12 19:51:32 <smickles>	;;goxlag
Mar 12 19:51:33 <gribble>	0.3137 seconds
Mar 12 19:51:40 <smickles>	0_o
Mar 12 19:51:55 <smickles>	no...?
Mar 12 19:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> ;;goxlag
Mar 12 19:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	<gribble> 0 seconds
Mar 12 19:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	0 seconds is liek... ok srsly ?!
Mar 12 19:52:30 <smickles>	lol
Mar 12 19:52:43 <smickles>	it's prolly a rounding error
Mar 12 19:52:51 <mircea_popescu>	from 54576937698796854
Mar 12 19:53:15 <pizzaman1337>	I think it's measuring how far behind just the trading engine is
Mar 12 19:53:35 <kakobrekla>	correct
Mar 12 19:54:03 <kakobrekla>	the fact they need such indicator
Mar 12 19:54:09 <kakobrekla>	speaks for itself
Mar 12 19:59:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 12 20:00:27 <Bowjob>	IT appears that LTC will hit the dollar parity soon
Mar 12 20:00:38 <Bowjob>	is this crazy talk or
Mar 12 20:00:39 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 12 20:01:19 <kakobrekla>	its 0.00156
Mar 12 20:01:26 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 12 20:01:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.08000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 44.08000, 24 hour volume: 183524.02883802, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.39999, 24 hour vwap: 43.69802
Mar 12 20:01:34 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 44*0.00156
Mar 12 20:01:34 <gribble>	0.06864
Mar 12 20:01:57 <kakobrekla>	is it me or is this far from dollar parity?
Mar 12 20:02:11 <kakobrekla>	ah nvm
Mar 12 20:02:14 <kakobrekla>	fucked up a zero
Mar 12 20:02:24 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 44*0.0158
Mar 12 20:02:24 <gribble>	0.6952
Mar 12 20:02:29 <kakobrekla>	possibru.
Mar 12 20:05:33 <dub>	dafuq
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Mar 12 20:05:50 <dub>	and I've thrown away a bunch of ltc :/
Mar 12 20:06:00 <dub>	derptiem
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Mar 12 20:06:50 <dub>	must remember to have a look for it
Mar 12 20:07:23 <dub>	so is assbot getting buttfunder feed or no?
Mar 12 20:07:40 <BitHub>	hah
Mar 12 20:07:47 <dub>	need better intel on when to dump asicminer
Mar 12 20:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	"TD	that's why i don't understand people who say implementation diversity is a good thing. it's clearly not."
Mar 12 20:09:22 <BitHub>	i can buy a mining rig, yay
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Mar 12 20:16:56 <Bowjob>	75cents per ltc now
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Mar 12 20:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	insanity.
Mar 12 20:18:14 <jcpham>	ponzi tulip coin
Mar 12 20:18:16 <BitHub>	overprised?
Mar 12 20:18:25 <BitHub>	priced
Mar 12 20:18:34 <jcpham>	buy tulips now!
Mar 12 20:18:43 <dub>	is it cpuminable still?
Mar 12 20:18:48 <Bowjob>	nope
Mar 12 20:18:58 <Bowjob>	ive been wondering why the hell is it rising
Mar 12 20:19:07 <Bowjob>	is it because gpu miners abandoning btc?
Mar 12 20:19:08 <dub>	cocain is a helluva drug
Mar 12 20:19:15 <jcpham>	some morons out there have dediced to rape it
Mar 12 20:19:36 <jcpham>	wait until july 2011 litecoin prices
Mar 12 20:19:43 <jcpham>	thne what
Mar 12 20:19:51 <Bowjob>	 Low: 0.3125 USD High: 0.7525
Mar 12 20:20:17 <jcpham>	is that a spread or the low/high fo today
Mar 12 20:20:29 <Bowjob>	yes
Mar 12 20:20:34 <Bowjob>	low high
Mar 12 20:20:38 <kakobrekla>	basically noone has any idea if its worth anything
Mar 12 20:21:04 <Bowjob>	ive watched it since 5 cents
Mar 12 20:21:05 <Bowjob>	grow
Mar 12 20:21:12 <BitHub>	hmmm
Mar 12 20:21:17 <jcpham>	i'm not sure i'd call it growing
Mar 12 20:21:22 <kakobrekla>	01:11.57 ( kakobrekla ) but sersiouls how much use is there for ltc
Mar 12 20:21:22 <kakobrekla>	01:12.01 ( kakobrekla ) why would i USE it
Mar 12 20:21:22 <kakobrekla>	01:12.03 ( kakobrekla ) instead of btc
Mar 12 20:21:25 <jcpham>	maybe speculated
Mar 12 20:21:37 <jcpham>	on one exchange
Mar 12 20:21:39 <BitHub>	be funny if ltc became worth more than btc
Mar 12 20:21:49 <Bowjob>	the trollbox is going nuts
Mar 12 20:21:58 <jcpham>	i'd laugh for sure
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Mar 12 20:22:15 <jcpham>	i might sell some poop on ebay for a bajillion dolars too
Mar 12 20:22:21 <BitHub>	btc becomes worthless and its all about the ltc
Mar 12 20:22:35 <jcpham>	unless freicoin
Mar 12 20:22:44 <jcpham>	or some other tulip comes along
Mar 12 20:23:15 <jcpham>	currency exchange is one thing
Mar 12 20:23:21 <jcpham>	storage of value another entirely
Mar 12 20:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla actually, if the current devs continue as bitcoin devs, i can envisage ltc becoming the standard coin.
Mar 12 20:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	for instance, i will use it.
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Mar 12 20:23:39 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu you die first
Mar 12 20:23:40 <BitHub>	heh
Mar 12 20:23:43 <jcpham>	i mean.
Mar 12 20:23:46 <jcpham>	oops
Mar 12 20:23:48 <kakobrekla>	oh so you sayin ltc devs are better than btc devs mircea_popescu
Mar 12 20:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	no. i am saying the bitcoin devs are patent idiots
Mar 12 20:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	and the ltc devs i do not know.
Mar 12 20:24:09 <kakobrekla>	cause there arent any?
Mar 12 20:24:11 <jcpham>	becasue there arre none
Mar 12 20:24:12 <mircea_popescu>	excellent
Mar 12 20:24:12 <BitHub>	patent idiots lul
Mar 12 20:24:13 <jcpham>	^
Mar 12 20:24:14 <dub>	coblee
Mar 12 20:24:24 <dub>	he's the cut and paste engineer
Mar 12 20:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	currently if all bitcoin devs were hit by a bus bitcoin would benefit immensely.
Mar 12 20:24:36 <BitHub>	do you think the price would go up?
Mar 12 20:24:37 <jcpham>	all forked up
Mar 12 20:24:45 <dub>	because pumpcoin
Mar 12 20:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham ver .8 didn't make tiself.
Mar 12 20:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	nor did ver .7
Mar 12 20:24:51 <BitHub>	instantly see 100$
Mar 12 20:24:58 <dub>	before you dumpcoin
Mar 12 20:25:00 <jcpham>	i was on .6 until yesterday
Mar 12 20:25:10 <jcpham>	shitty devs didn't tell me anything
Mar 12 20:25:19 <jcpham>	i want my goddamn money back mircea_popescu
Mar 12 20:25:26 <jcpham>	i'm calling customer support right now
Mar 12 20:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	i will certainly have the girl ad psas to any future bullshiot "upgrades" they come up with
Mar 12 20:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	as in, do not upgrade. the people pushing this broken code are irresponsible and you will lose out.
Mar 12 20:25:56 <jcpham>	the fucking software has all these retard shiny coins all over it
Mar 12 20:26:04 <jcpham>	i've never seen a single shiny anything
Mar 12 20:26:46 <jcpham>	esimobob off
Mar 12 20:26:59 <jcpham>	fuck your keyboard
Mar 12 20:30:35 <dub>	mpex should fund solidcoin development to replace bitcoin
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Mar 12 20:32:18 <BitHub>	if it aint broken, don't fix it
Mar 12 20:32:27 <BitHub>	so simple
Mar 12 20:32:50 <BitHub>	but then again this was done on purpose because of politics
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Mar 12 20:52:58 <burnside>	wow, BTC to USD 42.233 || LTC 64.26735218
Mar 12 20:53:22 <burnside>	I'm going to be a thousandaire
Mar 12 20:53:32 <kakobrekla>	of which
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Mar 12 20:54:14 <burnside>	well, I guess I'm a thousandaire of LTC already, so soon I can be a thousandaire of USD.  ;)
Mar 12 20:54:33 <kakobrekla>	BTC is what you are looking for.
Mar 12 20:54:44 <burnside>	eh, for that I have a ways to go.
Mar 12 20:54:48 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 12 20:54:52 <burnside>	I was close before I found the GLBSE
Mar 12 20:55:05 <burnside>	heh
Mar 12 20:55:06 <kakobrekla>	got burned there?
Mar 12 20:55:16 <kakobrekla>	before you were just side?
Mar 12 20:55:23 <burnside>	oh yeah.  exactly
Mar 12 20:55:32 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 12 20:55:35 <burnside>	it was just play money then unfortunately, and I treated it as such
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Mar 12 20:55:45 <kakobrekla>	myea
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Mar 12 21:00:14 <burnside>	out for the day.  later all.
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Mar 12 21:18:01 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152457.0
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Mar 12 21:21:19 <dub>	thebuttholezone is such a prolix dick eater
Mar 12 21:21:45 <benkay>	+1
Mar 12 21:21:54 <benkay>	i will admit
Mar 12 21:21:55 <benkay>	i lol'd
Mar 12 21:22:23 <kakobrekla>	ah this si bitcurex
Mar 12 21:22:30 <kakobrekla>	is*
Mar 12 21:22:40 <kakobrekla>	thought it was the other simmilar sounding one
Mar 12 21:22:44 <kakobrekla>	bitfinex or smth
Mar 12 21:23:05 <kakobrekla>	but anywho the warning stands
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Mar 12 21:29:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [+]
Mar 12 21:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-ddosed-an-epic/
Mar 12 21:39:21 <mircea_popescu>	the blog you've all been missing secretly
Mar 12 21:39:37 <pizzaman1337>	the blog that always tells me I need to pay up :(
Mar 12 21:39:48 *	BitHub goes to read
Mar 12 21:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 payup pizza man!
Mar 12 21:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	10`000 btc
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Mar 12 21:40:49 <pizzaman1337>	if only I had that laying around
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Mar 12 21:42:26 <mircea_popescu>	o, also : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136084608044.jpg
Mar 12 21:43:29 <BitHub>	sweet mircea i made your blog
Mar 12 21:43:31 <deadweasel>	all the txns that ended up in the orphaned fork, did they complete, or get 6 confirmations?
Mar 12 21:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub :D
Mar 12 21:43:56 <deadweasel>	or were they always unconfirmed?
Mar 12 21:44:13 <deadweasel>	oops, wrong window.  answers still appreciated
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Mar 12 21:44:49 <Namworld>	looks like MPEx is back
Mar 12 21:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel yes they'll be fine
Mar 12 21:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	most already resolved im sure.
Mar 12 21:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld soon now.
Mar 12 21:45:31 <deadweasel>	I'm curious what a transaction from an orphaned fork looks like?
Mar 12 21:46:00 <deadweasel>	thats more of a statement than a ?
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Mar 12 21:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	just like a normal one
Mar 12 21:47:45 <BitHub>	glad the irc bot thing worked out, hope you find these dickheads hey
Mar 12 21:48:18 <deadweasel>	so anyone who happened to be buying 3 lbs of gold in person with bitcion at exactly that time, would have seen 6 confirmations?
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Mar 12 21:48:29 <deadweasel>	and walked away?
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Mar 12 21:49:51 <BitHub>	PPS. Everyone named in this article gets a block of 10`000 S.MPOE shares. Contact jurov to take possession - that include me mircea :)
Mar 12 21:49:58 <Namworld>	Well the blog is... MPEx will certainly follow soon
Mar 12 21:50:03 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub don't get excited, it's for the helper ppl :D
Mar 12 21:50:06 <benkay>	oh man
Mar 12 21:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld certainly.
Mar 12 21:50:13 <BitHub>	hehe :)
Mar 12 21:50:25 <mircea_popescu>	"named" not "quoted", you know.
Mar 12 21:50:27 <BitHub>	good read man, any idea who or why?
Mar 12 21:50:31 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Mar 12 21:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	but on the positive side, mpex gets much better servers and stuff
Mar 12 21:53:57 <BitHub>	i'm suprised there's no mpex irc room
Mar 12 21:54:13 <kakobrekla>	you are innit
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Mar 12 21:54:19 <BitHub>	:P
Mar 12 21:54:29 <BitHub>	i figured most of them were here :)
Mar 12 21:54:41 <kakobrekla>	well its the place to be
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Mar 12 21:55:42 <benkay>	is there a bitcoin security channel?
Mar 12 21:55:55 <benkay>	well derp
Mar 12 21:55:59 <benkay>	i'm just not welcome apparently
Mar 12 21:56:10 <kakobrekla>	benkay?
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Mar 12 21:56:20 <benkay>	yessir
Mar 12 21:56:38 <kakobrekla>	you are not welcome where?
Mar 12 21:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin security ? what is that ?
Mar 12 21:57:05 <benkay>	#bitcoin-security
Mar 12 21:57:08 <benkay>	i dunno
Mar 12 21:57:10 <kakobrekla>	is like bitcoin police
Mar 12 21:57:14 <kakobrekla>	but without the badge
Mar 12 21:57:14 <benkay>	i was hoping to find someone who would tell me
Mar 12 21:57:25 <benkay>	i was imagining a land of rainbows and ponies tbh
Mar 12 21:57:30 <benkay>	s/land/chan
Mar 12 21:58:04 <benkay>	where sages of netsec and hackers extraordinare waxed on the merits and methods of securing one's business
Mar 12 21:58:25 <kakobrekla>	you can ask here
Mar 12 21:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	hh.
Mar 12 21:58:41 <kakobrekla>	sadly, this still is the best bitcoin chan.
Mar 12 21:58:56 <pizzaman1337>	I love this channel
Mar 12 21:59:03 <BitHub>	:)
Mar 12 21:59:39 <benkay>	this channel brings value to my life.
Mar 12 21:59:44 <benkay>	's about all i can say.
Mar 12 21:59:57 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 12 22:00:09 <dub>	benkay: try #intersango
Mar 12 22:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	Processor #32 Vendor GenuineIntel Name Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 0 @ 2.00GHz
Mar 12 22:00:24 <dub>	some fuckin skurity proffessors in thur
Mar 12 22:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	ahhh. seriously, what's sweeter than 32 core e5-2650 ?
Mar 12 22:00:38 <kakobrekla>	at least we know its genuine.
Mar 12 22:01:07 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu i need 20 cores nao.
Mar 12 22:01:13 <pizzaman1337>	did you buy it with btc?
Mar 12 22:01:19 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 nope.
Mar 12 22:01:19 <benkay>	thanks dub
Mar 12 22:01:23 <pizzaman1337>	:(
Mar 12 22:01:29 <dub>	ps: don't tell them I sent you
Mar 12 22:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	but i got 3.
Mar 12 22:01:46 <kakobrekla>	dub dont fuck around with people like that
Mar 12 22:01:49 <dub>	pps: don't ask about makign backups
Mar 12 22:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	which makes me actually have more hardware than mtgox atm.
Mar 12 22:02:01 <kakobrekla>	dub its not nice.
Mar 12 22:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	benkay intersangro being, obviously, the fuckwit champs of btc.
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Mar 12 22:02:33 <dub>	I though my follow up '<dub> some fuckin skurity proffessors in thur' expressed an appropriate level of sarcasm?
Mar 12 22:02:35 <benkay>	links?
Mar 12 22:02:54 <benkay>	you guise i can make my own mind up about things
Mar 12 22:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;google bitcoin drama timeline
Mar 12 22:03:13 <gribble>	The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/>; Why S.MPOE is worth more than MtGox pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/>; Lolvacute, pentru posteritate pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012 (1 more message)
Mar 12 22:03:13 <kakobrekla>	:DD
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Mar 12 22:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	first one works best
Mar 12 22:03:16 <dub>	sorry for pooplinking
Mar 12 22:03:18 <kakobrekla>	i just dont want to see you wasting too much time benkay
Mar 12 22:03:20 <TomServo>	Like Waingro from Heat?
Mar 12 22:03:30 <Chaang-Noi>	oh ltc, lulz  75 cents so fast? :)
Mar 12 22:03:35 <benkay>	i'm oddly flattered kakobrekla
Mar 12 22:03:38 <kakobrekla>	OH SHUTUP Chaang-Noi
Mar 12 22:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 12 22:03:53 <benkay>	although i assume you're after next year's socket fee already
Mar 12 22:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	i bought some last week. should i sell nao ?
Mar 12 22:04:17 <kakobrekla>	im thinkin dat too
Mar 12 22:04:18 <Chaang-Noi>	sorry kakobrekla :)
Mar 12 22:04:28 <kakobrekla>	its ok Chaang-Noi, just messing around.
Mar 12 22:04:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i know:)
Mar 12 22:04:58 <Chaang-Noi>	bitcoin breaking i think really showed people a more tested version is good to have around
Mar 12 22:05:03 <dub>	;;calc 200000*0.75
Mar 12 22:05:03 <gribble>	150000
Mar 12 22:05:07 <Chaang-Noi>	bitcoin after all is litecoins test chain :)
Mar 12 22:05:22 <kakobrekla>	LTC = more tested bitcoin
Mar 12 22:05:24 <dub>	I should have maffed dat in my head
Mar 12 22:05:35 <kakobrekla>	from where did this horse shit came
Mar 12 22:05:52 <Chaang-Noi>	trollin trollin, its good fun iuf you do it for money
Mar 12 22:06:01 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 12 22:06:03 <kakobrekla>	you troll well.
Mar 12 22:06:09 <Chaang-Noi>	thank you
Mar 12 22:06:10 <BitHub>	yeah man i got paid to troll lance armstrong for a while
Mar 12 22:06:12 <BitHub>	that was fun
Mar 12 22:06:18 <kakobrekla>	;;rate Chaang-Noi 1 trolls well
Mar 12 22:06:19 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system.
Mar 12 22:06:25 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 12 22:06:28 <dub>	imposter!
Mar 12 22:06:37 <kakobrekla>	;;rate Chaang-Noi 1 trolls well
Mar 12 22:06:37 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system.
Mar 12 22:06:39 <kakobrekla>	fu gribble
Mar 12 22:06:45 <Chaang-Noi>	im not on wot
Mar 12 22:06:47 <BitHub>	we call him Ken Doll
Mar 12 22:06:50 <kakobrekla>	;;rate Chaang-Noi 1 trolls well
Mar 12 22:06:50 <gribble>	Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
Mar 12 22:06:53 <kakobrekla>	ah
Mar 12 22:07:00 <kakobrekla>	not in WOT?!
Mar 12 22:07:09 <kakobrekla>	NOT IN WOT?!?!?!?
Mar 12 22:07:11 <kakobrekla>	;;rate Chaang-Noi -10 not in WOT
Mar 12 22:07:17 <gribble>	Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
Mar 12 22:07:17 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, im trusted, i dont need it
Mar 12 22:07:18 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 12 22:07:45 <kakobrekla>	not anymore!
Mar 12 22:07:46 <dub>	;;getrating goat
Mar 12 22:07:46 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Mar 12 22:07:55 <Chaang-Noi>	people like gmaxwell rating people neg they never delt with cuz they do something like play s.dice really turned me off
Mar 12 22:08:15 <kakobrekla>	lolwut
Mar 12 22:08:25 <Chaang-Noi>	let me try again, i need coffee
Mar 12 22:08:43 <Chaang-Noi>	gmaxwell rates people -1 or -5 cuz they gamble on s.dice
Mar 12 22:08:51 <Chaang-Noi>	that pisses me off as people jsut abose it
Mar 12 22:08:53 <kakobrekla>	how nice of him
Mar 12 22:09:04 <Chaang-Noi>	so i wont use a system that is so fucked up
Mar 12 22:09:27 <benkay>	haha
Mar 12 22:09:37 <benkay>	stop gambling on s dice in a transparent way
Mar 12 22:10:01 <benkay>	mp i'm enjoying your tirade on fucking a lot more than the drama posts
Mar 12 22:10:28 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 12 22:10:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont use s.dice it was just one example of how i see it abused
Mar 12 22:10:58 <Chaang-Noi>	pirate was like 2nd highest rated? lulz
Mar 12 22:11:07 <kakobrekla>	oh not this again
Mar 12 22:11:24 <Namworld>	OTC is just like Bitcoin. Each user can run however they want about attributing trust or distrust.
Mar 12 22:11:38 <kakobrekla>	you must learn to read wot Chaang-Noi
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Mar 12 22:12:31 <benkay>	tirade's the wrong word
Mar 12 22:13:08 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 12 22:13:12 <kakobrekla>	;;getrating dub
Mar 12 22:13:12 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask dub!~dub@unaffiliated/dub . User dub, rated since Wed Dec 19 14:09:17 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 7 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=dub
Mar 12 22:13:21 <kakobrekla>	oh you on the other hand are
Mar 12 22:13:30 <kakobrekla>	;;rate dub 1 trolls well, too.
Mar 12 22:13:31 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.
Mar 12 22:14:30 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i just dont think wot is a good tool, not worth my time. i can see how it is goodfor some people not as well known as me, but im one of bitcointalks greatest trolls:)
Mar 12 22:14:35 <benkay>	dang. in btc world, you blow things and you're arguably completely fucked for starting things under your own name ever again.
Mar 12 22:14:42 <Namworld>	:;rate Chaang-Noi -10 Too much black/purple/red in his home, really bad choice of colors. Doesn't give off a very trusty vibe like pure white.
Mar 12 22:14:50 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 12 22:14:51 <Namworld>	^^ would be valid
Mar 12 22:15:11 <benkay>	contrasts strongly against american startuplandia where you can pivot (fail) ten times with 3 different investment rounds, and still be lauded as a pop-hero
Mar 12 22:15:26 <kakobrekla>	thats so cool eh benkay
Mar 12 22:15:29 <Namworld>	ratings are just how much an user trust you. Someone insane could distrust someone for whatever.
Mar 12 22:15:35 <benkay>	cool?
Mar 12 22:15:41 <benkay>	cool is the grand canyon
Mar 12 22:15:49 <benkay>	cool is fucking your buddy's wife
Mar 12 22:15:55 <kakobrekla>	in the summer too?
Mar 12 22:16:02 <kakobrekla>	the canyon, not the wife
Mar 12 22:16:19 <benkay>	this is BITCOIN
Mar 12 22:16:28 <kakobrekla>	anyway the point is its nice to see you can be accountable in a way
Mar 12 22:16:53 <benkay>	http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/138/644/THISISSPARTA!.jpg
Mar 12 22:16:59 <Chaang-Noi>	namworld but i remember who i trust, why do i need to use wot?
Mar 12 22:17:10 <kakobrekla>	or else we would still have patric harnets and such
Mar 12 22:17:12 <kakobrekla>	around
Mar 12 22:17:17 <kakobrekla>	no?
Mar 12 22:17:19 <Namworld>	You can use ;;gettrust to only get indirect ratings from people you trust yourself
Mar 12 22:17:31 <Namworld>	;;gettrust mircea_popescu
Mar 12 22:17:31 <benkay>	"in a way"
Mar 12 22:17:31 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user Namworld to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 5, Level 2: 6 via 4 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=Namworld&dest=mircea_popescu
Mar 12 22:17:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know... after all my fail i was always honest and people trust me, and if they dont im happy to use escrow :)
Mar 12 22:18:14 <Namworld>	;;gettrust Chaang-Noi
Mar 12 22:18:14 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user Namworld to user Chaang-Noi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=Namworld&dest=Chaang-Noi
Mar 12 22:18:17 <benkay>	dunno man, dunno.
Mar 12 22:18:28 <kakobrekla>	about?
Mar 12 22:18:32 <Namworld>	I'm lacking data about you apparently.
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Mar 12 22:18:42 <Chaang-Noi>	im not on wot
Mar 12 22:18:59 <benkay>	but it's definitely a step towards a world where people generally know all there is to know about you.
Mar 12 22:19:07 <Namworld>	Explains it.
Mar 12 22:19:17 <kakobrekla>	benkay you mean facebook?
Mar 12 22:19:25 <benkay>	not even man
Mar 12 22:19:27 <benkay>	so far not even
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Mar 12 22:19:44 <kakobrekla>	you are afraid to be over exposed over OTC wot
Mar 12 22:19:46 <kakobrekla>	or what
Mar 12 22:19:46 <benkay>	think about a plugin to your radio system that identifies customers as they walk in your store and then queues up music for them
Mar 12 22:19:49 <kakobrekla>	im not following
Mar 12 22:20:34 <benkay>	imagine truly pervasive surveillance
Mar 12 22:20:35 <benkay>	nvm
Mar 12 22:20:39 <benkay>	i don't have time for this conversation
Mar 12 22:20:45 <benkay>	and i'm not nearly stoned enough to find it interesting.
Mar 12 22:20:51 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 12 22:20:57 <kakobrekla>	mkay
Mar 12 22:21:08 <Chaang-Noi>	dont know, i dont use facebook either, i just dont like that sorta of social networking, i have a very good trading recored
Mar 12 22:21:32 <kakobrekla>	whoever uses facebook and bitcoin is retarded
Mar 12 22:21:40 <kakobrekla>	crypto anarchists on facebook, right.
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Mar 12 22:22:19 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda have the same idea about wot as i do facebook :/
Mar 12 22:22:20 <BitHub>	https://www.facebook.com/pages/BitHub/579117455436997 - you can now contact BitHub via our FB page
Mar 12 22:22:22 <smickles>	kakobrekla: my facebook name is fedarush akatom
Mar 12 22:22:25 <BitHub>	thanks.
Mar 12 22:22:41 <kakobrekla>	yw BitHub :)
Mar 12 22:24:42 <benkay>	dude! you guys i don't even want to build a business in this space
Mar 12 22:24:45 <benkay>	i mean i totally do
Mar 12 22:24:48 <benkay>	but it scares me shitless.
Mar 12 22:24:58 <kakobrekla>	why?
Mar 12 22:25:05 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Mar 12 22:25:07 <kakobrekla>	it should.
Mar 12 22:25:27 <benkay>	there are three outcomes for me
Mar 12 22:25:29 <benkay>	win
Mar 12 22:25:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i was dumb and sold 50k litecoin around 42 cents... should i cash out or buy more ltc... ahhh
Mar 12 22:25:31 <benkay>	go to jail
Mar 12 22:25:35 <benkay>	lose everyone's money
Mar 12 22:25:46 <kakobrekla>	benkay https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0
Mar 12 22:25:59 <benkay>	i've read that many a time
Mar 12 22:26:07 <kakobrekla>	mkay
Mar 12 22:26:25 <kakobrekla>	well then you know what to do
Mar 12 22:26:28 <benkay>	i'm actually looking forward to MPOE-PR "FIRST"ing it on a launch page
Mar 12 22:26:36 <BitHub>	its not that hard
Mar 12 22:26:37 <kakobrekla>	fisting?
Mar 12 22:26:41 <kakobrekla>	ah firsting.
Mar 12 22:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin.org down !?
Mar 12 22:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	nm just slow
Mar 12 22:26:57 <BitHub>	you most likely wont go to jail
Mar 12 22:27:10 <BitHub>	unless you're doing something illegal or not paying taxes
Mar 12 22:27:24 <kakobrekla>	or move to where its legal
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Mar 12 22:27:48 <benkay>	"most likely"
Mar 12 22:27:53 <benkay>	so comforting, sir.
Mar 12 22:28:01 <kakobrekla>	thats why we are here.
Mar 12 22:28:13 <Chaang-Noi>	pirate wont even go to jail
Mar 12 22:28:16 <benkay>	not moving, either. i have roots here.
Mar 12 22:28:21 <benkay>	did pirate disclose his identiy?
Mar 12 22:28:24 <benkay>	identity
Mar 12 22:28:24 <Chaang-Noi>	at best SEC fucks with him, but SEC cant jail people
Mar 12 22:28:32 <Chaang-Noi>	yes pirate is very well known by all
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Mar 12 22:28:44 <benkay>	is he still operating in the space?
Mar 12 22:28:51 <Chaang-Noi>	not with that name no
Mar 12 22:28:54 <kakobrekla>	yeah he paid yesterday.
Mar 12 22:29:06 <kakobrekla>	sry just had to, was a long time since last one.
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Mar 12 22:29:26 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 12 22:29:45 <BitHub>	i heard finland and costa rica are good places to setup bitcoin companies
Mar 12 22:29:47 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobrkla you should see my account size, once he pays out im going to be supper rich!
Mar 12 22:29:55 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi :D
Mar 12 22:30:04 <benkay>	i'm only dinner rich
Mar 12 22:30:13 <kakobrekla>	BitHub the way i see it, slovenia is fuckin awesome
Mar 12 22:30:21 <BitHub>	yeah?
Mar 12 22:30:36 <BitHub>	Australia not too bad
Mar 12 22:30:38 <BitHub>	no dramas
Mar 12 22:30:39 <kakobrekla>	yeah, noone give a flying fuck
Mar 12 22:30:48 <kakobrekla>	gives*
Mar 12 22:30:52 <BitHub>	nice kako where is that? Eastern Euro?
Mar 12 22:31:17 <kakobrekla>	one might argue its not south but central, ill take mps deficinion of being estern too
Mar 12 22:31:27 <kakobrekla>	definition
Mar 12 22:31:28 <benkay>	i am just not leaving this town.
Mar 12 22:31:34 <benkay>	i am glad to come visit you all
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Mar 12 22:31:38 <BitHub>	i cant wait to travel more
Mar 12 22:31:47 <benkay>	ugh, that was a dumb sentence.
Mar 12 22:31:51 <BitHub>	need to check out so many place
Mar 12 22:31:55 <BitHub>	s
Mar 12 22:36:30 <deadweasel>	which place first, bithub?
Mar 12 22:36:46 <benkay>	deadweasel i'm not going to pycon
Mar 12 22:36:49 <benkay>	pynight i mean
Mar 12 22:36:53 <benkay>	because i'm going to pycon
Mar 12 22:38:33 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: wth, i know you like this number
Mar 12 22:38:36 <smickles>	ValueError: Extra data: line 1 column 187 - line 22 column 65 (char 187 - 1337)
Mar 12 22:38:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol!
Mar 12 22:38:49 <smickles>	are you trolling me via my statjson?
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Mar 12 22:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	not intentionally. which is this ?
Mar 12 22:39:36 <deadweasel>	benkay me neither
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Mar 12 22:41:27 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: some error I get when trying to decode my stat
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Mar 12 22:49:29 <Chaang-Noi>	hih first ever btc-ltc i have seen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18763.msg1618387#msg1618387
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Mar 12 22:52:25 <kakobrekla>	makes me wanna sell ltc.
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Mar 12 22:57:29 <Chaang-Noi>	its a bad joke but still a first
Mar 12 22:57:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.724998 BTC [-]
Mar 12 22:57:48 <Chaang-Noi>	anyway im off to a mini family vacation, they think iv sat too long at the computer :(
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Mar 12 23:00:13 <benkay>	real reason mp should not make new clients happen
Mar 12 23:00:24 <benkay>	critical density in bitcoin space
Mar 12 23:00:37 <benkay>	tear fabric of economic universe
Mar 12 23:00:41 <benkay>	unpredictable results.
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Mar 12 23:01:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.724998 BTC [-]
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Mar 12 23:25:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 12 23:25:09 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225589 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 202 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 6 hours, 52 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4822007.4493 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.39708
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Mar 12 23:47:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2500 @ 0.00559 = 13.975 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 00:01:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.199 = 0.398 BTC [-]
Mar 13 00:04:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0055 = 0.0275 BTC [-]
Mar 13 00:08:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [+]
Mar 13 00:10:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.00559 = 0.0224 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 00:24:19 <mircea_popescu>	"I hope you can realize how much more we could accomplish and how much happier everyone would be if you acted like less of a douchebag."
Mar 13 00:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha this is rich.
Mar 13 00:25:08 <kakobrekla>	from to?
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Mar 13 00:27:46 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc...
Mar 13 00:28:05 <ThickAsThieves>	its a buying bonanza
Mar 13 00:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla the devs are idiots thread
Mar 13 00:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.0;all
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Mar 13 00:30:58 <kakobrekla>	id give 10 btc to be able to punch misterbigg in the face, just once.
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Mar 13 00:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 13 00:34:57 <BitHub>	wow @ https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/board
Mar 13 00:35:49 <BitHub>	intresting characters
Mar 13 00:36:15 <kakobrekla>	>He is the mastermind who created the current trade engine and the multi-currency platform for Mt.Gox
Mar 13 00:36:18 <kakobrekla>	brilliant.
Mar 13 00:36:30 <BitHub>	is the s.dice guy in there as well?
Mar 13 00:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	"Executive Director, Chairman of the Board, Treasurer"
Mar 13 00:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	this is a toy.
Mar 13 00:36:45 <mircea_popescu>	i hope it's obvious.
Mar 13 00:36:59 <BitHub>	hmmm
Mar 13 00:37:47 <BitHub>	now i feel silly defending bitcoin and how decentralized it is to teh haters
Mar 13 00:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	i guess now we know what coings are being floated by coinlab.
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Mar 13 00:38:06 <kakobrekla>	yeah its more fucked than whores at closin time BitHub
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Mar 13 00:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	but then again, as the girl said after the pirate fiasco : give your money to idiots, cause trouble across the board.
Mar 13 00:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	apparently bitcoin people still have to learn a lot about how confidence tricks work.
Mar 13 00:39:03 <BitHub>	lulz kako
Mar 13 00:39:31 <BitHub>	so do we actually need the board? or should i give money to them?
Mar 13 00:39:45 <kakobrekla>	what for?
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Mar 13 00:40:22 <BitHub>	i dont know i dont want to get in trouble
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Mar 13 00:40:59 <BitHub>	i dont want to say anything bad about the foundation....but.......
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Mar 13 00:41:13 <BitHub>	seems scammy?
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Mar 13 00:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	vote with your coins.
Mar 13 00:49:38 <BitHub>	i like how dodgy their pics look
Mar 13 00:49:41 <BitHub>	haha
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Mar 13 01:26:49 <midnightmagic>	BitHub: The fastest way to shut up haters is to stop talking to them and walk away.
Mar 13 01:27:40 <BitHub>	yeah, i found its best to be like "yeah cool man" and go onto something else
Mar 13 01:28:10 <midnightmagic>	Aumann's agreement theorem means they're being irrational. Why even bother with irrational people?
Mar 13 01:28:17 <pigeons>	smickles: what was your formula for the price of a mining "share"?
Mar 13 01:28:35 <midnightmagic>	"Bye, have fun being bent over by the Universe for the rest of your life."
Mar 13 01:29:12 <kakobrekla>	standard foruma is reward/iff
Mar 13 01:29:17 <kakobrekla>	formul
Mar 13 01:29:18 <kakobrekla>	a
Mar 13 01:29:20 <kakobrekla>	fuck
Mar 13 01:29:31 <kakobrekla>	iff = diff
Mar 13 01:29:37 <kakobrekla>	ill shutup.
Mar 13 01:29:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.00181 = 0.181 BTC [+]
Mar 13 01:31:02 <midnightmagic>	wanna see how fast bitcoin can hit $500 ?  Shift the decimal one place to the right..
Mar 13 01:31:02 <pigeons>	;;diff
Mar 13 01:31:03 <gribble>	4367876.000842196
Mar 13 01:31:06 <midnightmagic>	ha ha! oh I kill me..
Mar 13 01:31:27 <pigeons>	;;bc,btcguild
Mar 13 01:31:28 <gribble>	14128725.59
Mar 13 01:31:48 <midnightmagic>	eligius is 5+TH did you notice?
Mar 13 01:31:48 <pigeons>	;;bc,eligius
Mar 13 01:31:49 <gribble>	580880.010226
Mar 13 01:31:58 <pigeons>	;;bc,p2pool
Mar 13 01:31:58 <gribble>	201745.680513
Mar 13 01:32:10 <midnightmagic>	that eligius report is out-of-date. check eligius' stats page.
Mar 13 01:32:30 <pigeons>	nanotube: is this static data?
Mar 13 01:32:54 <pigeons>	;;nextprice
Mar 13 01:32:54 <gribble>	Error: "nextprice" is not a valid command.
Mar 13 01:33:52 <pigeons>	;;bc,price
Mar 13 01:33:53 <gribble>	Next Price Estimate: 49.634057 | Next Price In About 2 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes, and 44 seconds
Mar 13 01:33:58 <pigeons>	woo-hoo
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Mar 13 01:36:27 <nanotube>	pigeons: no, it's all pulled live
Mar 13 01:36:32 <nanotube>	;;help bc,eligius
Mar 13 01:36:32 <gribble>	(bc,eligius <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "math calc [cut -1 [web fetch http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/pool/hashrate.txt]]/1000000".
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Mar 13 01:38:56 <pigeons>	Luke-Jr: i'm shocked
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Mar 13 01:43:37 <pigeons>	ah the eligius asics overheated
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Mar 13 02:03:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00401 BTC [+]
Mar 13 02:03:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 50 @ 0.004 = 0.2 BTC [-]
Mar 13 02:03:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0039 = 0.39 BTC [-]
Mar 13 02:03:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0038 = 0.38 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 02:08:27 <dub>	goes to show how much of a joke the idea of mining being some kind of democratic concensus system is
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Mar 13 02:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	dub miningis
Mar 13 02:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	the current people doing it obviously aren't quite there yet, but no worries,
Mar 13 02:09:55 <mircea_popescu>	money washes stupid.
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Mar 13 02:18:16 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 13 02:18:19 <gribble>	33839.987497068854
Mar 13 02:18:39 <dub>	;;help bc,nethash
Mar 13 02:18:39 <gribble>	(bc,nethash <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "cut -1 [web fetch http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-3D.txt]".
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Mar 13 03:02:47 <LameCoin->	any comments on yesterdays events?
Mar 13 03:03:39 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Mar 13 03:04:19 <kakobrekla>	lots of stuff happend yesterday like on a normal day
Mar 13 03:04:30 <LameCoin->	the block chain fork
Mar 13 03:04:35 <kakobrekla>	but im guessing youre talking about fork yea
Mar 13 03:04:39 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 13 03:04:52 <kakobrekla>	well we are still here
Mar 13 03:04:59 <kakobrekla>	the price reflects high confidence
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Mar 13 03:05:24 <LameCoin->	i enjoyed reading mircea's comments to the developers on the forum
Mar 13 03:05:46 <kakobrekla>	then you will prolly enjoy staying around
Mar 13 03:06:27 <LameCoin->	i think the selling yesterday would have occured regardless
Mar 13 03:06:57 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 13 03:08:00 <LameCoin->	well even under the event the price never hit last weeks sell off
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Mar 13 03:27:17 <kakobrekla>	bitbet now spams via twitter and rss feeds.
Mar 13 03:32:13 <bowjob>	btc-e is down
Mar 13 03:32:25 <kakobrekla>	hax0rd
Mar 13 03:32:29 <kakobrekla>	its up here
Mar 13 03:32:37 <bowjob>	hey is the trollbox still there?
Mar 13 03:32:48 <kakobrekla>	ltc is 0.01642 cause i know you wanna know
Mar 13 03:32:48 <bowjob>	it goes on and off for me, the site. i dont see the trollbox
Mar 13 03:32:56 <kakobrekla>	trollbox is here
Mar 13 03:33:38 <bowjob>	i see the trollbox but on my account i cant
Mar 13 03:33:39 <bowjob>	wtf
Mar 13 03:33:41 <bowjob>	if i log in
Mar 13 03:37:06 <kakobrekla>	you got outtrolled
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Mar 13 03:43:23 <grubles>	whats the mpex fee nowadays?
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Mar 13 03:49:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.709999 = 3.42 BTC [+]
Mar 13 03:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.71 = 8.55 BTC [+]
Mar 13 03:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.745 = 5.235 BTC [+]
Mar 13 03:56:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.185 BTC [+]
Mar 13 03:58:08 <dub>	grubles: still 30 last I heard
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Mar 13 03:59:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00579 = 0.0579 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 04:03:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.005237 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 04:04:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00579 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 04:05:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000706 BTC [+]
Mar 13 04:05:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.009 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 04:07:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00194 BTC [+]
Mar 13 04:07:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.724994 = 6.5249 BTC [-]
Mar 13 04:07:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.724994 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 04:08:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00687 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 04:10:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.724994 = 2.175 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 04:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 1.745 = 12.215 BTC [+]
Mar 13 04:12:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.7499 = 8.7495 BTC [+]
Mar 13 04:12:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 1.75 = 35 BTC [+]
Mar 13 04:14:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58699999 BTC [+]
Mar 13 04:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.587 = 1.174 BTC [+]
Mar 13 04:14:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58899999 BTC [+]
Mar 13 04:14:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.589 = 1.767 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 04:26:55 <Mandrius>	h
Mar 13 04:29:36 <kakobrekla>	urr
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Mar 13 04:36:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 04:38:04 <grubles>	who wants to buy my mpex account
Mar 13 04:38:17 <Ukto>	0,o
Mar 13 04:38:25 <grubles>	private key and all
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Mar 13 04:58:23 <dub>	video of bitcointalk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316AzLYfAzw
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Mar 13 05:22:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 05:29:16 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 13 05:29:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.20301, Best ask: 46.38751, Bid-ask spread: 0.18450, Last trade: 46.20000, 24 hour volume: 72528.04121071, 24 hour low: 41.02000, 24 hour high: 46.50000, 24 hour vwap: 44.30878
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Mar 13 05:43:56 <dub>	jurov: around?
Mar 13 05:44:10 <jurov>	yes
Mar 13 05:46:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 05:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 18 @ 1.75 = 31.5 BTC [+]
Mar 13 05:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 05:58:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72499 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 06:07:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72499 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 06:08:18 <BitHub>	when is asicminer gon be worth 1btc?
Mar 13 06:08:19 <BitHub>	heh
Mar 13 06:09:31 <jurov>	sooner than litecoin?
Mar 13 06:09:38 <jurov>	dollar parity ftw
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Mar 13 06:33:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.005237 = 0.0209 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 06:40:25 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 13 06:40:27 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.7 / 0.72705 / 0.749 (42 shares, 30.5 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.70519 / 1 (1171 shares, 825.8 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.69325 / 1 (1495 shares, 1036.4 BTC)
Mar 13 06:40:43 <bowjob>	ltc going down
Mar 13 06:41:07 <BitHub>	oh no
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Mar 13 08:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies
Mar 13 08:11:59 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ["http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 08:12:19 <jurov>	lol
Mar 13 08:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	totally forgot lol
Mar 13 08:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies VFfKqFB6
Mar 13 08:13:22 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Mar 13 08:13:33 <mircea_popescu>	hey thisbotsadministrator :D
Mar 13 08:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ^
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Mar 13 08:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.589 BTC [+]
Mar 13 08:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, 241`819 option contracts traded so far this month.
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Mar 13 08:26:11 <MJR_>	wow mp is in good company chase was dos'd too
Mar 13 08:31:04 <deadweasel>	better hide yo kids, hide wife and hide yo husband, cos erybody gettin' ddosed in here!
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Mar 13 08:31:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 25 @ 0.1 = 2.5 BTC [+]
Mar 13 08:32:04 <deadweasel>	www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNhaLUT520
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Mar 13 08:36:31 <jurov>	looks like the cyberwar already started, and we're sitting in the middle of it like frogs in water
Mar 13 08:36:47 <jurov>	dreaming about the days of old cozy internets
Mar 13 08:38:36 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 13 08:38:42 <MJR_>	the future...
Mar 13 08:38:50 <MJR_>	we are better armed than most
Mar 13 09:01:26 *	BitHub summons cyber christ satoshi
Mar 13 09:01:47 <assbot>	 you rang?
Mar 13 09:02:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57000001 BTC [-]
Mar 13 09:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 34 @ 0.57 = 19.38 BTC [-]
Mar 13 09:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [-]
Mar 13 09:07:09 <jurov>	prayers were heard: http://mpex.co/
Mar 13 09:09:06 <jurov>	so it was offline, like, 10 days total?
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Mar 13 09:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.56 = 2.8 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 09:20:46 *	deadweasel fears the second coming and associated wrath
Mar 13 09:21:13 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/03/2013391325331795.html
Mar 13 09:22:12 <ThickAsThieves>	pretty long article about btc
Mar 13 09:24:11 <deadweasel>	nice
Mar 13 09:24:11 <deadweasel>	thx
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Mar 13 09:44:46 <BitHub>	asicminer div coming
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Mar 13 10:36:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.005237 = 0.0367 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 10:48:53 <MJR_>	thanks for that article
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Mar 13 10:54:36 <ThickAsThieves>	np
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Mar 13 11:03:06 <BitHub>	asicminer div is in
Mar 13 11:03:08 <BitHub>	yay
Mar 13 11:03:12 <BitHub>	highest one yet
Mar 13 11:03:20 <jurov>	kakobrekla: https://1broker.com/?c=news&newsid=5
Mar 13 11:05:24 <deadweasel>	they got gamed.
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Mar 13 11:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.589 BTC [+]
Mar 13 11:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58999999 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 11:18:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 11:31:02 <Enky>	BTCUSD ticker
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Mar 13 11:38:04 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Mar 13 11:38:05 <gribble>	0.106442 seconds
Mar 13 11:39:41 <iz>	;;ticker
Mar 13 11:39:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.92000, Best ask: 46.92001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 46.92001, 24 hour volume: 63017.15299195, 24 hour low: 43.39990, 24 hour high: 47.25000, 24 hour vwap: 45.47015
Mar 13 11:40:51 <smickles>	< pigeons> smickles: what was your formula for the price of a mining "share"? << I had my own formula?
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Mar 13 11:41:10 <smickles>	i'm pretty sure I just usede the common one
Mar 13 11:42:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 13 11:42:08 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225662 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 129 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 19 hours, 13 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4809815.00197 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.11794
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Mar 13 11:43:40 <smickles>	;;later tell mircea_popescu the format is [url,url] << notice the brackets and the comma
Mar 13 11:43:41 <gribble>	Error: "url,url" is not a valid command.
Mar 13 11:43:58 <smickles>	bah
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Mar 13 11:46:30 <smickles>	;;later tell mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/8YfAVCQA should be the format. I will put a description in the 'help' for 'proxies'
Mar 13 11:46:32 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 13 11:46:48 <smickles>	$proxies 8YfAVCQA
Mar 13 11:46:51 <mpexbot>	smickles: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
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Mar 13 11:48:36 <jurov>	smickles it can be signed by anyone?
Mar 13 11:56:22 <Enky>	;;bc,stats
Mar 13 11:56:24 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225662 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 129 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 19 hours, 13 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4809815.00197 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.11794
Mar 13 11:56:55 <Enky>	;;goxlag
Mar 13 11:56:57 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 13 11:59:20 <jurov>	it should throw negative number in sometime
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Mar 13 12:11:54 <Guest59466>	smickles: could I get a balance?
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Mar 13 12:14:28 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 13 12:14:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074748 / 0.00076718 (4839118 shares, 3,617.18 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069186 / 0.00078628 (47035571 shares, 32,542.35 BTC)
Mar 13 12:15:10 <TomServo>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 13 12:15:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 39.74644825 / 41.17268804 / 57.24817223 (29604 shares, 15,735.42 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 13 12:16:31 <thestringpuller>	;;gribble
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Mar 13 12:41:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 48 @ 0.72488 = 34.7942 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 12:53:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.49999 BTC [+]
Mar 13 12:53:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 13:02:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.0057 = 0.0855 BTC [-]
Mar 13 13:12:28 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/03/13/winpoker-becomes-first-major-gambling-operator-to-adopt-bitcoin/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_term=jeremy+dumont
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Mar 13 13:41:07 <smickles>	< jurov> smickles it can be signed by anyone? << yeah, go ahead and try ;)
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Mar 13 13:48:22 <smickles>	"Another significant but less noticed advantage of using bitcoin ‘tokens’ directly as the gaming unit is that before a game can be declared gambling for regulatory purposes, there has to be real money involved. In the case of bitcoin, a strong case can be made that, even with secondary markets, certain virtual currencies lack the legal elements of material value and property." seems lik romainian toy approach
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Mar 13 13:52:37 <Rick___>	Hey,is there anyone can help me with p2pool?
Mar 13 13:53:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00569991 BTC [+]
Mar 13 13:53:51 <smickles>	Rick___: maybe me
Mar 13 13:53:57 <smickles>	what's the issue?
Mar 13 13:54:04 <Rick___>	thank you
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Mar 13 13:54:23 <smickles>	also, if i can't help there is #bitcoin-mining
Mar 13 13:54:36 <Rick___>	when i make a bitcoin.conf  and run bitcoin client,everything is fine
Mar 13 13:54:49 <Rick___>	okay
Mar 13 13:55:53 <Rick___>	but when i make a litecoin.conf no matter if i put rpcport=10332 port=10333,I always cant run litecoin client
Mar 13 13:55:57 <Rick___>	why?
Mar 13 13:56:20 <Rick___>	it always says port 10332 or port 9332 wrong
Mar 13 13:58:34 <Rick___>	hello?
Mar 13 13:59:06 <ThickAsThieves>	rick this is the wrong room
Mar 13 14:00:31 <Rick___>	okay
Mar 13 14:00:33 <Rick___>	sorry
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Mar 13 14:03:30 <ThickAsThieves>	np
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Mar 13 14:04:48 <benkay>	i'd recommend litecoin-dev
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Mar 13 14:14:51 <smickles>	who want's to beta test my mpex gui?
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Mar 13 14:17:56 <benkay>	i do
Mar 13 14:18:11 <benkay>	probably going to steal all of your ideas though :)
Mar 13 14:18:23 <benkay>	not that trading interfaces are particularly complex.
Mar 13 14:18:34 <deadweasel>	smickles, I assume we must provide our own mpex account, btc, and assets?
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Mar 13 14:24:14 <smickles>	deadweasel: yes
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Mar 13 14:24:39 <smickles>	benkay: what platform are you on?
Mar 13 14:24:44 <benkay>	os x
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Mar 13 14:29:30 <smickles>	benkay: k, i'm packaging it now
Mar 13 14:29:37 <benkay>	shibby.
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Mar 13 14:34:56 <benkay>	ladles and jellyspoons
Mar 13 14:35:02 <benkay>	i would like to introduce you to the blackchainbot
Mar 13 14:35:04 <benkay>	blacktape
Mar 13 14:35:13 <benkay>	he is listening to you, assbot.
Mar 13 14:36:00 <benkay>	somebody make some trades, dammit.
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Mar 13 14:43:14 <Anduck>	selling ASICMINER shares @0.75 each
Mar 13 14:43:16 <Anduck>	pm me
Mar 13 14:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.005619 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 14:43:38 <dub>	hahah
Mar 13 14:43:53 <dub>	benkay: happy?
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Mar 13 14:44:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00515 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 14:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.57 = 1.14 BTC [-]
Mar 13 14:50:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000673 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
Mar 13 14:51:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72489 BTC [+]
Mar 13 14:52:15 <benkay>	eh
Mar 13 14:52:21 <benkay>	i'll probably never be happy
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Mar 13 14:54:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000673 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 14:56:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 13 @ 0.000673 = 0.0087 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 14:56:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00999 = 0.05 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 15:15:56 <benkay>	;;gribble pay attention to me
Mar 13 15:15:56 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
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Mar 13 15:16:48 <benkay>	;;gpg eauth benkay
Mar 13 15:16:50 <gribble>	Request successful for user benkay, hostmask benkay!~benkay@c-71-237-161-120.hsd1.or.comcast.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/39F274AFBC7ACAC7
Mar 13 15:17:51 <benkay>	freenode:#bitcoin-otc:133610bea7983c9d07d8c08247ae4502e91a9ad60ab51110fbc7e420
Mar 13 15:18:10 <benkay>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:133610bea7983c9d07d8c08247ae4502e91a9ad60ab51110fbc7e420
Mar 13 15:18:11 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
Mar 13 15:18:15 <benkay>	FUCK ME
Mar 13 15:18:32 <benkay>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:133610bea7983c9d07d8c08247ae4502e91a9ad60ab51110fbc7e420
Mar 13 15:18:34 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
Mar 13 15:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.57 = 4.56 BTC [-]
Mar 13 15:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.565 = 1.13 BTC [-]
Mar 13 15:21:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72489 BTC [+]
Mar 13 15:22:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Mar 13 15:23:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00687 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 15:28:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.185 = 0.74 BTC [+]
Mar 13 15:29:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.000705 = 0.0042 BTC [+]
Mar 13 15:33:21 *	fishfish is now known as fishfish|AFK
Mar 13 15:33:45 <kakobrekla>	heh jurov aint that some shit
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Mar 13 15:38:54 <Anduck>	selling ASICMINER shares @0.75 each
Mar 13 15:39:01 <Anduck>	...BUY IT
Mar 13 15:39:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.72488 = 2.8995 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 15:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.565 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 15:52:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.72488 = 4.3493 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 15:59:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 16:06:57 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies
Mar 13 16:06:58 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 16:07:59 <FabianB_>	$vwap S.MPOE
Mar 13 16:08:00 <mpexbot>	FabianB_: {u'7d': {u'cnt': u'49', u'min': u'67334', u'max': u'76718', u'vsa': u'358259971660', u'vsh': u'4790992', u'avg': u'74777.8271515'}, u'30d': {u'cnt': u'3857', u'min': u'61614', u'max': u'78628', u'vsa': u'3217577150869', u'vsh': u'46464513', u'avg': u'69248.0549806'}, u'1d': {u'cnt': u'', u'min': u'', u'max': u'', u'vsa': u'', u'vsh': u'', u'avg': u''}}
Mar 13 16:08:21 <FabianB_>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 13 16:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074777 / 0.00076718 (4790992 shares, 3,582.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069248 / 0.00078628 (46464513 shares, 32,175.77 BTC)
Mar 13 16:08:31 *	mircea_popescu checks if they match
Mar 13 16:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	amazing.
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Mar 13 16:25:38 <dub>	mircea_popescu: dat maff
Mar 13 16:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	:p
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Mar 13 16:28:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 190 @ 0.695 = 132.05 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 16:33:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.724 = 1.448 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 16:36:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.19 = 0.38 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 16:39:54 <jurov>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:d09f12925116f3363e8eae0ec8ade9aadb4f55879fa01bada13bab03
Mar 13 16:39:56 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7
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Mar 13 16:47:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00076706 = 3.8353 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 16:48:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 80 @ 0.00569991 = 0.456 BTC [+]
Mar 13 16:48:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 220 @ 0.00599987 = 1.32 BTC [+]
Mar 13 16:49:24 <jurov>	$proxies abrbm3cp
Mar 13 16:49:25 <mpexbot>	jurov: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 16:49:52 <jurov>	just had to try
Mar 13 16:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 13 16:50:25 <mircea_popescu>	HAXXOER
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Mar 13 16:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies http://pastebin.com/1KXGu3vS
Mar 13 16:52:18 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Mar 13 16:52:29 <mircea_popescu>	hallo mrbotadmin sir. error got!
Mar 13 16:52:34 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ^
Mar 13 16:53:24 <FabianB_>	mpexbot: probably without the url part?
Mar 13 16:53:30 <FabianB_>	mircea_popescu i mean
Mar 13 16:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	that i tried last time
Mar 13 16:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies 1KXGu3vS
Mar 13 16:53:44 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Mar 13 16:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies pastebin.com/1KXGu3vS
Mar 13 16:53:53 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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Mar 13 16:54:07 <jurov>	not a proper json, i daresay
Mar 13 16:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	wait
Mar 13 16:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	fuck lol
Mar 13 16:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	1 sec
Mar 13 16:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	totally forgot the json part
Mar 13 16:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies qU4hTtcP
Mar 13 16:55:28 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 16:55:33 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies http://pastebin.com/qU4hTtcP
Mar 13 16:55:35 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Mar 13 16:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	ugh
Mar 13 16:55:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
Mar 13 16:56:00 <jurov>	$proxies qU4hTtcP
Mar 13 16:56:02 <mpexbot>	jurov: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 16:56:06 <jurov>	$proxies
Mar 13 16:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	that's valid innit ?!
Mar 13 16:56:08 <mpexbot>	jurov: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 16:56:21 <jurov>	yes smickles did it thus
Mar 13 16:57:08 <jurov>	;;slap mpexbot
Mar 13 16:57:11 *	gribble slaps mpexbot with a foul-smelling AK-47
Mar 13 16:57:15 <jurov>	owww
Mar 13 16:57:32 <jurov>	quite an innuendo we got there
Mar 13 16:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	you think anyone inserts ak47s ?
Mar 13 16:59:16 <jurov>	rule 34
Mar 13 16:59:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 13 17:00:18 <FabianB_>	everyone busy watching 22 running behind a ball with nothing happening in 90 minutes?
Mar 13 17:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	nope. what's that, soccer ?
Mar 13 17:01:15 <jurov>	oh, i almost forgot while watching this botsex... now that i'm authed, i receive claims from people mentioned in http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-ddosed-an-epic/
Mar 13 17:02:00 <jurov>	ofc, depends how they are mentioned. some are eligible for s.mpoe, others for s.bvps or f.giga.etf
Mar 13 17:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Mar 13 17:02:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.72 = 2.88 BTC [-]
Mar 13 17:02:48 <FabianB_>	lol
Mar 13 17:02:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.724869 BTC [+]
Mar 13 17:03:32 <jcpham>	irc channel metric matter
Mar 13 17:03:35 <jcpham>	re 1.3 mb logfile
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Mar 13 17:04:22 <jcpham>	i'm quoted in that article
Mar 13 17:04:28 <jcpham>	jurov i need my shares
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Mar 13 17:04:33 <jurov>	that's about 10-50 klod (kilolines of drama)
Mar 13 17:04:51 <jcpham>	PPS. Everyone named in this article for helping gets a block of 10`000 S.MPOE shares. Contact jurov to take possession.
Mar 13 17:04:54 <jurov>	jcpham, s.bvps or giga?
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Mar 13 17:05:04 <jcpham>	giga
Mar 13 17:05:09 <jcpham>	if that's my choice
Mar 13 17:05:29 *	jurov looks
Mar 13 17:05:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.724869 BTC [+]
Mar 13 17:05:59 <jurov>	sorry jcpham, you should have come some months earlier. next.
Mar 13 17:06:09 <jcpham>	w/e
Mar 13 17:06:13 <jcpham>	false advertising
Mar 13 17:06:20 <jcpham>	scammer tags
Mar 13 17:06:21 <dub>	scam
Mar 13 17:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham if you read that shit...
Mar 13 17:06:24 <dub>	fuck
Mar 13 17:06:30 <jcpham>	dude my name is in there
Mar 13 17:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	how many people of the total 10bn read 100k words in a week ?
Mar 13 17:06:36 <jcpham>	nad i'm super helpful
Mar 13 17:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 13 17:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	just a little bitter.
Mar 13 17:07:00 <jurov>	yes. but s.bvps and f.giga.etf claims closed in October 2012
Mar 13 17:07:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 13 17:07:12 <dub>	dude everyone who bothere to read that far into your novel should get shares
Mar 13 17:07:21 <jcpham>	i think so
Mar 13 17:07:26 <jcpham>	i read the whole thing
Mar 13 17:07:27 <mircea_popescu>	dub yes, but some get them anally
Mar 13 17:07:30 <mircea_popescu>	contact jurov for that too
Mar 13 17:07:32 <jcpham>	last sentence BONUS PRIZE FOR ME
Mar 13 17:07:47 <dub>	that is my preference anyway
Mar 13 17:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	match made in heaven
Mar 13 17:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	this is what i do
Mar 13 17:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	i solve problems
Mar 13 17:08:05 <dub>	ASS TO ASS
Mar 13 17:08:12 <jcpham>	jennifer connely
Mar 13 17:08:13 <mircea_popescu>	cum! cum!
Mar 13 17:08:48 <jcpham>	seriously though just add it to my bill
Mar 13 17:08:51 <jurov>	jcpham, 10k shares of asspride will do as a consolation prize?
Mar 13 17:08:55 <jcpham>	i know you are good for it
Mar 13 17:08:55 <jurov>	...er... bitpride
Mar 13 17:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	i wish to take this opportunity and thank everyone present for acting so professionally
Mar 13 17:09:05 <mircea_popescu>	you are all buttpower rangers, just like luke.
Mar 13 17:09:07 <jurov>	duly noted
Mar 13 17:09:22 <jcpham>	sure tshirt shares will work
Mar 13 17:09:23 <dub>	thank you, we work hard to maintain the standard of trolling
Mar 13 17:09:25 <jcpham>	as long as it is free
Mar 13 17:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	without the backing of drama bitcoin might end up being useful
Mar 13 17:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	and thus worthless.
Mar 13 17:09:50 <jcpham>	i'll trade you 10k xrp for 10,000 shares of tulips
Mar 13 17:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	shit! i should have given out xrp
Mar 13 17:10:07 <mircea_popescu>	cheaper than with mpoe
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Mar 13 17:10:23 <jcpham>	should start an ripple hedge fund
Mar 13 17:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	why did i not think of that! why does nobody think of ripple when they have a problem ripple could solve! o ye gods!
Mar 13 17:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	(i r hope pigeons be reading this)
Mar 13 17:12:06 *	jurov hears a loud ripple
Mar 13 17:12:21 <jurov>	who was that???
Mar 13 17:12:40 <mircea_popescu>	assbot.
Mar 13 17:12:42 <jcpham>	http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rob-rhinehart-no-longer-requires-food
Mar 13 17:12:48 <jcpham>	invest now in Soylent.
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Mar 13 17:14:00 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: did you figure it out or should I show you again :)
Mar 13 17:14:16 <mircea_popescu>	you should totally show me agaIN
Mar 13 17:15:03 <smickles>	sign: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 17:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/qU4hTtcP
Mar 13 17:15:38 <smickles>	and it's just the key to send to mpexbot
Mar 13 17:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies qU4hTtcP
Mar 13 17:15:47 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 17:16:00 <smickles>	hmm -_-
Mar 13 17:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	no but show me
Mar 13 17:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	why don'tcha show me :D
Mar 13 17:16:25 <smickles>	if that was your sig, it should've worked
Mar 13 17:16:29 <smickles>	$proxies
Mar 13 17:16:30 <mpexbot>	smickles: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 17:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck do you mean if
Mar 13 17:16:52 <smickles>	i haven't verified it :P
Mar 13 17:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is going on here 1 sec
Mar 13 17:17:52 <smickles>	$proxies qmLNVKpL
Mar 13 17:17:54 <mpexbot>	smickles: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 17:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	dude
Mar 13 17:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	for some reason gpg thinks it's a detached signature ?!
Mar 13 17:18:09 <smickles>	hmm, maybe i had the wrong keyid for you
Mar 13 17:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	no get a load of this
Mar 13 17:18:22 <mircea_popescu>	i gpg --clearsign "hi". works.
Mar 13 17:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	i gpg --clearsign that  -> detached signature.
Mar 13 17:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	so gpg says.
Mar 13 17:19:00 <smickles>	my exact command:
Mar 13 17:19:01 <smickles>	echo -n '["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]'|gpg --clearsign
Mar 13 17:19:53 <smickles>	dude, mircea_popescu
Mar 13 17:19:57 <smickles>	look at your paste
Mar 13 17:20:07 <smickles>	you missed 3 leading '-'
Mar 13 17:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	o ffs
Mar 13 17:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Mar 13 17:20:28 <smickles>	lol
Mar 13 17:20:34 *	mircea_popescu goes and beats up on innocent doe eyed nicely shaped young girls in frustration
Mar 13 17:21:54 <jurov>	gpg can't get over these missing ---s? i thought that's their purpose
Mar 13 17:22:22 <jurov>	anyway, no love for ipv6? i'm looking into it for mpex.coinbr now
Mar 13 17:26:01 *	dub lets ripple
Mar 13 17:27:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Mar 13 17:30:19 <jcpham>	http://www.bloomberg.com/video/bob-s-daily-buzzword-bitcoin-EJ04CzJbQsKJ6CqAsDI_WA.html
Mar 13 17:31:02 <jcpham>	no QE in bitcoin
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Mar 13 17:31:10 <jurov>	hm, mpex6.coinbr.com should work (ipv6 only) but someohow doesn't here
Mar 13 17:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i talked with my provider, and allow me to quote :
Mar 13 17:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	"The US datacenters we have dont support IPv6 or if they do it is very limited. The London DC does support IPv6 but cPanel and a lot of the other stuff on the server doesn't so those IPs they are able to give, are actually useless at this time."
Mar 13 17:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	im like... doods, forget it, move to romania already.
Mar 13 17:34:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 28 @ 0.00579 = 0.1621 BTC [+]
Mar 13 17:37:21 <deadweasel>	we have an electrical grid that is about to shit the bed, ipv6 is not an upgrade priority
Mar 13 17:37:29 <FabianB_>	lol, cPanel can't handle ipv6?
Mar 13 17:37:48 <jurov>	can anyone confirm mpex6.coinbr.com works? looks like my tunnel is b0rkt
Mar 13 17:39:21 <FabianB_>	if i were at home and not in hotel..
Mar 13 17:40:05 <jurov>	i can ping, i can connect. but no reply from webserver
Mar 13 17:40:42 <FabianB_>	jurov: how about locally on the server?
Mar 13 17:41:07 <FabianB_>	like "curl ::1"
Mar 13 17:43:11 <jurov>	there it works. but amazon is not providing ipv6 end to end
Mar 13 17:43:23 <jurov>	i only provides ipv6 to ipv4 loadbalancer
Mar 13 17:44:37 <FabianB_>	ic
Mar 13 17:45:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.00194 = 0.0039 BTC [+]
Mar 13 17:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	i dont see it
Mar 13 17:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	yeah i tihnk you're really on ipv4
Mar 13 17:46:21 <jurov>	http://ipv6-test.com/validate.php passed, and detected nginx right
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Mar 13 17:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	bah
Mar 13 17:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	it seems apparent we have some sort of ipv4 bridge or proxy or something in between
Mar 13 17:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	sorry j but i won't fiddle with routes and shit
Mar 13 17:50:43 <jurov>	heh... "mpex.co is down" , "yea i saw boss going to the closet"
Mar 13 17:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	lolwut ?!
Mar 13 17:52:31 <dub>	theres somethign called a chain block
Mar 13 17:52:50 <dub>	its essentially maff and fings
Mar 13 17:53:18 <jurov>	i got confirmed it works.. so it's just my ipv6 tunnel
Mar 13 17:53:27 <jurov>	so you can add it
Mar 13 17:55:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 29 @ 0.1 = 2.9 BTC [+]
Mar 13 17:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.msg1621729#msg1621729
Mar 13 17:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, anyone has quick proof against point 1 there ?
Mar 13 17:58:10 <jurov>	this? 1) Without producing zero-day exploits
Mar 13 17:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	I'm not sure this is getting through the fog of their own farts, but the group of power rangers has so far:
Mar 13 17:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	1. Not produced one single brilliant solution to any actual problem.
Mar 13 17:58:33 <jurov>	no proof. just that 0day happens independently from spec
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Mar 13 18:00:02 <deadweasel>	also, it's just software.  you ever seen 100% bug free software?
Mar 13 18:00:09 <deadweasel>	not me
Mar 13 18:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	yes, i have.
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Mar 13 18:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	do you want to see some ?
Mar 13 18:01:02 <benkay>	deadweasel i imagine you see mostly pretty buggy software
Mar 13 18:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	this windows worldview is intolerable by now.
Mar 13 18:01:23 <mircea_popescu>	"o, we just shit in the code because really, who cares"
Mar 13 18:02:16 <jurov>	why do the girl (or/and you) insists going into such arguments? that's excellent the bait for taking the debate away from core points
Mar 13 18:02:32 <deadweasel>	benkay mayhab I did, mayhab I didn't
Mar 13 18:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	in this cause because wuille's lie needs to be excised.
Mar 13 18:02:46 <jurov>	arguing who did or did not solve anything brilliantly or ducttape
Mar 13 18:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	they try to maintain the client above the spec. this shall not stand.
Mar 13 18:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	and they need to understand that they are kinda dumb. i dunno why they've not got it this far, but...
Mar 13 18:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	it might be all the fanboism
Mar 13 18:03:39 <jurov>	yes, spec+compliance tests. personal performance is tangential
Mar 13 18:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	it may be tangential technically. there are significant political concerns involved here.
Mar 13 18:04:01 <mircea_popescu>	let's just say the forum is not the github
Mar 13 18:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57499999 BTC [+]
Mar 13 18:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel <? echo "Hi this is 100% bug free"; ?>
Mar 13 18:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	let me know when yo ufind a bug.
Mar 13 18:05:18 <deadweasel>	how much are they paid?
Mar 13 18:05:29 <mircea_popescu>	if i fuck a girl and she sucks at it
Mar 13 18:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	and i tell her that and her response is that question
Mar 13 18:05:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Mar 13 18:05:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Mar 13 18:05:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.695 = 1.39 BTC [-]
Mar 13 18:05:58 <mircea_popescu>	does this make me think she was actually any better than i originally thought ?
Mar 13 18:06:10 <deadweasel>	you've lost me
Mar 13 18:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	you take a girl out, right ?
Mar 13 18:06:35 <deadweasel>	i'm just curious how big the dev team is and what their budget is.
Mar 13 18:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	ah, i read an implication there.
Mar 13 18:07:03 <mircea_popescu>	the dev team is about six people (it does not include Luke-Jr, tho he keeps trying to pretend he's a dev)
Mar 13 18:07:12 <jurov>	i mean, what's the objective? getting devteam to admit their process sucks? then such argument misses the objective (albeit narrowly), cause it's aimed to people, not to process
Mar 13 18:07:13 <mircea_popescu>	they aren't paid, except for gavin, who is probably not paid anything much at all.
Mar 13 18:07:33 <mircea_popescu>	the foundation collected about half a million dollars which that conman from ycombinator controls
Mar 13 18:07:42 <mircea_popescu>	and will probably constitute the scamdrama of this summer.
Mar 13 18:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	jurov the objective is to illuminate the very rotten structure of their arguments.
Mar 13 18:10:52 <jurov>	i doubt this approach. you ought to decide whether you want to educate or get things done
Mar 13 18:11:07 <jurov>	not conflate it together
Mar 13 18:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	could this be extended to read "you ought to decide whether you want to run mpex, educate or get things done"?
Mar 13 18:12:21 <jurov>	whatever. as long as you know what ur doing
Mar 13 18:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	well, i hope i do and that's the best you can possibly get.
Mar 13 18:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	but if those who get things done don't educate, who will ? those who don't ? we;ve seen the results of that one heh.
Mar 13 18:13:20 <smickles>	so, it has come to this
Mar 13 18:13:20 <jurov>	those who will be left behind will educate themselves, as usual
Mar 13 18:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	smickles not quite so cut and dried yet,
Mar 13 18:13:36 <smickles>	this being 3:13 pm
Mar 13 18:13:42 <smickles>	;D
Mar 13 18:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	i suspect past the original shock a good chunk of them ppl are actually reasonable in the head.
Mar 13 18:15:18 <jurov>	smickles, what?
Mar 13 18:15:33 <smickles>	jurov: what what?
Mar 13 18:15:56 <jurov>	that 3:13pm ... at least add the proxy, i confirmed t working via http://www.ipv6proxy.net/ , too
Mar 13 18:16:08 <smickles>	$proxies
Mar 13 18:16:10 <mpexbot>	smickles: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 18:16:37 <jurov>	["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com", "http://mpex6.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 18:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	can has ipv6
Mar 13 18:17:16 <smickles>	$proxies GPv6MV5E
Mar 13 18:17:18 <mpexbot>	smickles: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com", "http://www.ipv6proxy.net"]
Mar 13 18:17:57 <smickles>	wait, did i just nix one of them?
Mar 13 18:18:12 <smickles>	oh what did i just do?
Mar 13 18:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 13 18:18:32 <jurov>	noooo ipv6proxy is just testing site
Mar 13 18:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	you resolved it by proxy ?
Mar 13 18:18:43 <smickles>	one sec
Mar 13 18:18:43 <jurov>	mpex6.coinbr.com is the business
Mar 13 18:19:11 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 13 18:19:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.75723, Best ask: 46.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19277, Last trade: 46.95000, 24 hour volume: 49142.94060722, 24 hour low: 43.75080, 24 hour high: 47.29500, 24 hour vwap: 46.23022
Mar 13 18:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	the calm. this is impossible
Mar 13 18:19:31 <mircea_popescu>	no 30% swings in a day ? waht sort of bitcoin is this!
Mar 13 18:19:59 <jurov>	someone click that $1m button quickly
Mar 13 18:20:22 <smickles>	$proxies DfwUaFTD
Mar 13 18:20:24 <mpexbot>	smickles: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com", "http://www.ipv6proxy.net"]
Mar 13 18:20:30 <smickles>	 !!!
Mar 13 18:20:34 <jurov>	facepalm
Mar 13 18:20:50 <jurov>	smickles, why not use the list i supplied?
Mar 13 18:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	smickles count the dashes baby
Mar 13 18:21:12 <smickles>	$proxies Dsc5KCB9
Mar 13 18:21:13 <mpexbot>	smickles: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com", "http://mpex6.coinbr.com"]
Mar 13 18:21:24 <jurov>	thanks!
Mar 13 18:21:29 <smickles>	jurov: i did, i messed up by pasting just the sig
Mar 13 18:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Mar 13 18:21:34 <smickles>	w/o the message
Mar 13 18:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	i feel better nao
Mar 13 18:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed btw
Mar 13 18:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152498.0
Mar 13 18:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	ajhaha
Mar 13 18:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	this guy lmao
Mar 13 18:25:09 <benkay>	what does that mean?
Mar 13 18:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	wannabe mpoe-pr, w/o the tits, w/o the spit&grit ?
Mar 13 18:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	benkay that.
Mar 13 18:26:27 <benkay>	what do you mean by "flushing deposits"?
Mar 13 18:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	a. mpex deposits and withdrawals are processed manually.
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Mar 13 18:27:01 <kakobrekla>	he throws the coins in the toilet and flushes
Mar 13 18:27:03 <mircea_popescu>	that means a queue builds
Mar 13 18:27:04 <kakobrekla>	bye bye
Mar 13 18:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	ta-daa
Mar 13 18:27:09 <benkay>	i've always wondered why you do the deposits by hand
Mar 13 18:27:23 <benkay>	instead of depositor-unique receipt addresses
Mar 13 18:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	benkay there was exactly one bitcoin business unaffected by bitcoindev idiocy
Mar 13 18:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	guess which.
Mar 13 18:27:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 15 @ 0.1 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Mar 13 18:27:48 <kakobrekla>	thats why withdrawals have been deprecated on mpex
Mar 13 18:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.57 = 1.71 BTC [-]
Mar 13 18:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	hint : no, it wasn't those that trust them, like btc-guild.
Mar 13 18:28:03 <benkay>	i understand withdrawals.
Mar 13 18:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	you should understand deposits by the example i just gave.
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Mar 13 18:28:53 <benkay>	are you talking about mpex deposits into customer addresses?
Mar 13 18:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 13 18:29:11 <smickles>	benkay: manual withdrawals protect the customer, manual deposits protect mpex (maybe)
Mar 13 18:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	(sometimes)
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Mar 13 18:30:11 <benkay>	i don't really get why incoming funds need to be processed by hand
Mar 13 18:30:41 <jborkl>	Lol, withdrawals have been deprecated
Mar 13 18:30:51 <benkay>	not trying to say you're doing it wrong. trying to understand why you do it the way you do.
Mar 13 18:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	but think, benkay. version .8 comes out. the chain is split
Mar 13 18:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	okpay gets a deposit in
Mar 13 18:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	it is then doubplespent on the other chain
Mar 13 18:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	the other chain inexplicably prevails
Mar 13 18:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	okpay is out 12k
Mar 13 18:32:21 <benkay>	>.<
Mar 13 18:32:23 <smickles>	ug, who's brilliant idea was it to have an installation video and skip the text version
Mar 13 18:32:26 <benkay>	thanks for thinking for me.
Mar 13 18:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	heh. yw.
Mar 13 18:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	smickles sounds like something godaddy would do.
Mar 13 18:33:48 <benkay>	different question, mp: why u no do depositor-unique addresses for mpex deposits?
Mar 13 18:33:50 <smickles>	I should do that and make a video of the text 'RTFM' with a link
Mar 13 18:33:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [+]
Mar 13 18:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.575 BTC [+]
Mar 13 18:34:36 <mircea_popescu>	benkay what would be the benefit iyo ?
Mar 13 18:34:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490N] 9 @ 0.2 = 1.8 BTC [+]
Mar 13 18:34:48 <benkay>	not having to identify deposits by amount.
Mar 13 18:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	suppose evil person X makes a payment to mpex.
Mar 13 18:35:43 <kakobrekla>	ya but one key with large sum is way cooler!
Mar 13 18:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	mpex later pays out to innocent person y.
Mar 13 18:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	taint analysis idiots prosecute person y because clearly taint analysis proves he's x.
Mar 13 18:36:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00599987 = 1.8 BTC [+]
Mar 13 18:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 141 @ 0.00599987 = 0.846 BTC [+]
Mar 13 18:36:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.1 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Mar 13 18:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [+]
Mar 13 18:37:44 <smickles>	all hail the romainians for protecting us from idiot juries
Mar 13 18:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	this is just an edge example, there's tons of others just as good really.
Mar 13 18:38:17 <benkay>	hm.
Mar 13 18:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	testing for inbound is a few degrees of magnitude easier with fixed address
Mar 13 18:38:49 <benkay>	so: nail me to the wall on this one, wouldja?
Mar 13 18:39:01 <benkay>	i've been thinking about generating completely unique receipt addresses for each funding action
Mar 13 18:39:19 <benkay>	s/completely/moderately
Mar 13 18:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	eh
Mar 13 18:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	how's something moderately unique ?
Mar 13 18:39:44 <benkay>	they're all descended from the same keypair
Mar 13 18:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	a okay
Mar 13 18:39:53 <benkay>	quibble accepted
Mar 13 18:40:09 <benkay>	generating new receipt addresses for each funding action
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Mar 13 18:40:15 <benkay>	mostly for convenience on the backend
Mar 13 18:40:34 <benkay>	doesn't address blockchain forking, granted.
Mar 13 18:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	stop worring and just explain the idea
Mar 13 18:40:56 <benkay>	oh
Mar 13 18:40:58 <benkay>	customer hits funding page
Mar 13 18:41:01 <benkay>	new address generates
Mar 13 18:41:03 <benkay>	sends funds
Mar 13 18:41:10 <benkay>	we tie address to user account
Mar 13 18:41:20 <benkay>	wait for confirmations on spend to new address
Mar 13 18:41:25 <benkay>	credit account
Mar 13 18:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	you are vulnerable to a particularly nasty dos attack
Mar 13 18:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	i could just ask you generate addresses, bloat your wallet to 5gb
Mar 13 18:42:08 <benkay>	*nod*
Mar 13 18:42:11 <mircea_popescu>	as we know, devteam hasn't mastered the mysteries of configuring berkley
Mar 13 18:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	i on the other hand haven't mastered the mysteries of spelling berkeley
Mar 13 18:42:47 <mircea_popescu>	benkay but anyway, that's how bitbet does it.
Mar 13 18:42:52 <smickles>	ha! you make spelling errors too!
Mar 13 18:43:03 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think it's fundamentally evil or anything.
Mar 13 18:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	wnrog smiglez
Mar 13 18:43:31 <kakobrekla>	well you limit the damage
Mar 13 18:43:36 <kakobrekla>	that can be caused
Mar 13 18:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.57 = 1.14 BTC [-]
Mar 13 18:44:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [+]
Mar 13 18:45:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [-]
Mar 13 18:45:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 500 @ 0.07993896 = 39.9695 BTC [-]
Mar 13 18:47:45 <benkay>	is it necessarily true that the wallet has to bloat?
Mar 13 18:47:49 <benkay>	can't you spend from the master key?
Mar 13 18:47:54 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152747.0
Mar 13 18:48:38 <benkay>	jonathan assia also says interesting things on the bitcoinx dev list
Mar 13 18:48:44 <midnightmagic>	the dev team effectively includes luke-jr, and a massive amount of work he has done makes it into bitcoind
Mar 13 18:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	you have to keep the privkeys of all adresses you receive btc in
Mar 13 18:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	for as long as you keep the btc there
Mar 13 18:48:55 <dub>	dont people tend to generate a lot of addresses in advance fot his type of thing?
Mar 13 18:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic may i direct you to bitcoin.orgh
Mar 13 18:49:08 <mircea_popescu>	dub yes.
Mar 13 18:49:44 <benkay>	ah, so that's how it works today.
Mar 13 18:49:47 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Whatever it says there is irrelevant if a huge amount of his work makes it into the codebase.
Mar 13 18:50:00 <benkay>	what i really want is bip0032 addresses
Mar 13 18:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic listen up : you folks don't get to change things just by power of friendship which is magic.
Mar 13 18:50:25 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I have no idea what you're talking about now.
Mar 13 18:50:25 <mircea_popescu>	lukejr would love to be a developer, but he's mostly a useless contributor.
Mar 13 18:50:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's ok, it comes in time.
Mar 13 18:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	most people need about six months.
Mar 13 18:50:42 <midnightmagic>	even the stuff he does that doesn't make it in provides backdrop for the stuff that does.
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Mar 13 18:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	his overall impact on bitcoin is net negative.
Mar 13 18:51:10 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Have you considered the possibility that he himself is not interested in being listed on bitcoin.org ?
Mar 13 18:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	and if you don't like hearing it from me, ask gavin.
Mar 13 18:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla pretty cool.
Mar 13 18:52:57 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152498.msg1621918#msg1621918 still repeating the "unfunded opensource project" mantra
Mar 13 18:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.565 = 1.13 BTC [-]
Mar 13 18:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 13 18:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	"give us more money so coinlab can float it on top of whatever it gets from users"
Mar 13 18:53:53 <mircea_popescu>	"but we can't finance anything useful because bitcoin"
Mar 13 18:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i wouldn't deign jgarzik's crossposted crap with much attention.
Mar 13 18:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	he wants to talk, he'd better sit his sweet ass down and talk.
Mar 13 18:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	this posturing and delusions of self importance will simply bring them more asskicking.
Mar 13 18:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.56 = 1.12 BTC [-]
Mar 13 18:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5500001 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Mar 13 18:56:37 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Have you ever considered the possibility that, if you want to actually convince people, being less ascerbic is vastly more effective than more?
Mar 13 18:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	have you ever reviewed my record ?
Mar 13 18:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't bet much on the future of anyone that thinks they can stand up to my acerbic. but hey, your money, your vote.
Mar 13 18:57:57 <midnightmagic>	This is a people issue I bring up, not a by-rights issue. Are you actually interested in persuasion, or just in ranting angrily because..  why?
Mar 13 18:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	i am not interested in persuasion.
Mar 13 18:58:14 <mircea_popescu>	i am interested in splitting any group into two, the sensible and the worthless
Mar 13 18:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	and then crushing the worthless.
Mar 13 18:58:21 <midnightmagic>	Then what is your purpose? Division?
Mar 13 18:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	if people have enough sense, they'll persuade themselves.
Mar 13 18:58:44 <smickles>	wtf captcha!
Mar 13 18:58:57 <smickles>	i just filled out a captcha, got it wrong
Mar 13 18:59:06 <smickles>	the next one says "almost sucker"
Mar 13 18:59:09 <dub>	you are clearly not human
Mar 13 18:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's why i never do that, fucking hell i get them wrong half the time
Mar 13 18:59:23 <midnightmagic>	Reasonable humans will be turned off why your acidity. Are you seriously interested in attracting angry raging psychopaths?
Mar 13 18:59:40 <midnightmagic>	Much of what you're saying is precisely what the microcash guy was saying.
Mar 13 18:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic i am interested in attracking ACTUAL reasonable people, as opposed to the self proclaimed variety.
Mar 13 18:59:58 <dub>	and since there is a distinct lack of reasonable humans involved in bitcon dev...
Mar 13 19:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	dub there's plenty of self proclaimed reasonable people there
Mar 13 19:00:24 <jurov>	midnightmagic can you name some of the angry raging psychopaths that were attracted to mp?
Mar 13 19:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	who sat on an unconfigured db setup for 4 years
Mar 13 19:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	very fucking reasonable.
Mar 13 19:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lukejr!
Mar 13 19:00:46 <midnightmagic>	jurov: I have seen this happen before with RealSolid.
Mar 13 19:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	nowait!
Mar 13 19:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	i mean eskimoblob! ciuciu! etc!
Mar 13 19:01:40 <jurov>	lol my question was understood the other and third way around
Mar 13 19:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic you should at some point consider that the similarities you perceive are more a function of dirt on your lens than actual object of observation.
Mar 13 19:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	similarities are by definition subject to this suspicion.
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Mar 13 19:04:57 <midnightmagic>	So build the alternative already. Hire the cryptographers, coders, project managers, QA staff, and release engineering departments you think are so cheap and visionless on their own. If you think this alternative will win, build it and let it win.
Mar 13 19:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	why exactly do you feel the need to advise ?
Mar 13 19:05:29 <midnightmagic>	Why exactly do you feel the need to divide?
Mar 13 19:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	"you people fucked up" "please stop telling us we fucked up because :
Mar 13 19:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	1. it is not nice
Mar 13 19:05:41 <mircea_popescu>	2. you shouldn't be telling us this
Mar 13 19:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	3. you should be doing somerthing else
Mar 13 19:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	4. yo momma
Mar 13 19:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	etc
Mar 13 19:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	you call this reasonable ? dude, srsly. just becasuse your friends tell you you're pretty doesn't make you easier on the eyes than the average shaved donkey butt
Mar 13 19:06:46 <benkay>	project managers
Mar 13 19:06:48 <midnightmagic>	Since when did I call the bitcoin devs reasonable?
Mar 13 19:06:48 <benkay>	burn with fire
Mar 13 19:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	so what's your argument ?
Mar 13 19:07:13 <midnightmagic>	I said, "reasonable humans will be turned off..."
Mar 13 19:07:28 <midnightmagic>	Obviously the devs themselves aren't going to bother participating in your alternative.
Mar 13 19:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	who, specifically ?
Mar 13 19:07:50 <midnightmagic>	Whoever it is you think will make your attempt at dividing bitcoin successful.
Mar 13 19:07:58 <midnightmagic>	Presumably *not* insane psychopaths.
Mar 13 19:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	you are telling me about the minute characteristics of a set you can't let alone define other than by reference to me, but even nominally identify in no matter how small a part ?
Mar 13 19:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	wouldn't this be by definition something i'd know better than you then ?
Mar 13 19:08:54 <midnightmagic>	You are the one who claimed you are interested in dividing bitcoin, and on one side "ACTUAL reasonable people". You are the one who defined it.
Mar 13 19:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	and i am not dividing bitcoin, for that matter.
Mar 13 19:09:05 <mircea_popescu>	no, i made no such claim.
Mar 13 19:09:13 <midnightmagic>	Again, the difference here is that I am actually trying to communicate, and you are trying to be contradictory.
Mar 13 19:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is NOT the group of idiots that identify with it
Mar 13 19:09:21 <midnightmagic>	15:59 < mircea_popescu> midnightmagic i am interested in attracking ACTUAL reasonable people, as opposed to the self proclaimed variety.
Mar 13 19:09:23 <mircea_popescu>	and bitcoin is not divisible.
Mar 13 19:09:24 <midnightmagic>	^^ What's that then?
Mar 13 19:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	what i am doing is i am dividing the group of bitcoin supporters, by taking away bitcoin.
Mar 13 19:10:07 <midnightmagic>	..  from the current developers, presumably?
Mar 13 19:10:12 <mircea_popescu>	the reasonable will follow. the "they think are reasonable" will continue in the sort of fanboish obscurity they enjoy.
Mar 13 19:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin has no developers atm, for that matter.
Mar 13 19:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	just some kids drowning in code.
Mar 13 19:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	they're kids because their window to man up and "we fucked up, yes" has by now closed.
Mar 13 19:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	they're drowning in code for quite obvious reasons i won't rehash.
Mar 13 19:11:11 <midnightmagic>	And users who "support" them. Including the biggest exchange, most of the smaller exchanges, the major developers, the cryptographers who review the work done, the pools who secure the blockchain, and the hardware builders springing up to do so who have already made strong ties with the *current* development team.
Mar 13 19:11:22 <mircea_popescu>	the "biggest exchange" is written in php,
Mar 13 19:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	had 500 second lag during a light trade day
Mar 13 19:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	and just gave its us market away to a patent scam.
Mar 13 19:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	tyvm. the approximate sum value of your list is epslion.
Mar 13 19:11:53 <midnightmagic>	So is Facebook, isn't it?
Mar 13 19:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Mar 13 19:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	you're welcome to stick with facebook.
Mar 13 19:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	i'll go with bitcoin.
Mar 13 19:12:31 <midnightmagic>	I'm saying, "PHP is bad" is just another form of "no true scotsman"
Mar 13 19:12:34 <mircea_popescu>	and if you think the pools are currently securing anything you're pretty much in the raging psychopath group yourself.
Mar 13 19:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	what has the successful attack recently demonstrated ?
Mar 13 19:13:11 <kakobrekla>	that btc is headless
Mar 13 19:13:18 <midnightmagic>	Lots of things. I can't possibly imagine which subset of the whole you are referring to.
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Mar 13 19:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	yaya. mkay.
Mar 13 19:13:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [+]
Mar 13 19:13:51 <mircea_popescu>	i note you picked the stylistical out of that list. do address the lag and the other point sometime.
Mar 13 19:15:23 <midnightmagic>	I'm not going to defend the bitcoin developers. I'm just interested in what motivates your incredible..  determination..  to rant and attack so endlessly.
Mar 13 19:15:37 <benkay>	you might want to read polimedia
Mar 13 19:15:42 <benkay>	you know
Mar 13 19:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	my motivation is to state the truth.
Mar 13 19:15:44 <benkay>	do some research
Mar 13 19:16:46 <midnightmagic>	benkay: How helpful of you. I bow to your mighty helpfulness.
Mar 13 19:16:54 <kakobrekla>	trilema needs .edu domain
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Mar 13 19:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	moar like .xxx
Mar 13 19:17:22 <benkay>	if you're being sarcastic, I don't parse sarcasm online.
Mar 13 19:17:26 <kakobrekla>	eudxxx
Mar 13 19:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	.edu is for things that don't change anything.
Mar 13 19:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	eduxxx ftw!
Mar 13 19:17:38 <midnightmagic>	benkay: <sarcasm>How helpful of you. I bow to your mighty helpfulness.</sarcasm>
Mar 13 19:17:48 <benkay>	ah
Mar 13 19:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	someone should make htsp and then have inane specifications
Mar 13 19:18:13 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Look, I'm telling you dude. The more you rant, the more you are going to alienate people who would otherwise be much more interested in supporting your point of view.
Mar 13 19:18:19 <benkay>	midnightmagic: have you read polimedia?
Mar 13 19:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	no dude. you are telling me that some vanitous idiots would like the benefit of claiming we're friends
Mar 13 19:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	but witout having to put in any work.
Mar 13 19:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	thing is... i couldn't care less about this.
Mar 13 19:18:53 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: You don't have to be friends with someone to engage in civil discourse.
Mar 13 19:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	i am engaging in very civil discourse,.
Mar 13 19:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	the problem is that some people ran off with their c++ hairball implementation of what they call civil discourse
Mar 13 19:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	i never got the spec and i never started caring.
Mar 13 19:19:53 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: And I know of no examples of people who are interested in the Badge: "I tell everybody I'm mircea's friend and reap benefits thereby."
Mar 13 19:20:46 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I would say, good on you for ignoring those people.
Mar 13 19:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic read bitcoin-dev sometime. it's chockfull.
Mar 13 19:22:09 <midnightmagic>	It is for those exact reasons why the need is great for heterogency in client implementations. Thus, I say you should do it. Create an alternative implementation and go for it.
Mar 13 19:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	i am not creating any implementation
Mar 13 19:22:28 <mircea_popescu>	jesus fucking christ! dude! SPECIFICATION FIRST
Mar 13 19:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	what the hell is wrong with everybody
Mar 13 19:22:50 <midnightmagic>	Then do it. Do the work that the devs can't or won't, and build the spec.
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Mar 13 19:23:00 <midnightmagic>	That's part of what a devteam does.
Mar 13 19:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	more's the point, can you read c++ ?
Mar 13 19:23:09 <midnightmagic>	Can I?
Mar 13 19:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	i am asking.
Mar 13 19:23:19 <midnightmagic>	Yes.
Mar 13 19:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	do you want to summarize bitcoin code ?
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Mar 13 19:24:01 <midnightmagic>	As you are so fond of saying, hire the braindead monkeys who can do it *for* you for the peanuts you say they're worth, and have them do it.
Mar 13 19:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	so i'm takingthat as a sort of up and down and all about no.
Mar 13 19:24:45 <midnightmagic>	I am not interested in working on that project, if you are offering me a job.
Mar 13 19:25:01 <mircea_popescu>	so then what are we talkin' about.
Mar 13 19:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	you just bored at work or something ?
Mar 13 19:25:22 <midnightmagic>	Are you?
Mar 13 19:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	sigh. mkay.
Mar 13 19:28:25 <midnightmagic>	I know you have trouble when people talk back to you and all, but geez man. At a certain point, don't let the concorde fallacy trap you into pursuing a dead end.
Mar 13 19:29:03 <jurov>	midnightmagic you think writing spec from code is work for mokyes?
Mar 13 19:29:13 <jurov>	monkeys?
Mar 13 19:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 100 @ 0.03402633 = 3.4026 BTC [-]
Mar 13 19:29:27 <midnightmagic>	jurov: I'm not. He says so all the time. Perhaps you should take benkay's advice.
Mar 13 19:29:40 <jurov>	midnightmagic you revealed your gaping incompetence in this area then
Mar 13 19:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic i have trouble when people talk back ?!
Mar 13 19:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	seriously midnightmagic, i think you're abstracting your past history of interaction with who knows who and painting it on me.
Mar 13 19:30:17 <midnightmagic>	jurov: Still the rhetorical master I see.
Mar 13 19:30:17 <mircea_popescu>	as far as i know we've never met.
Mar 13 19:30:43 <jurov>	midnightmagic, I still lack concrete examples. Names.
Mar 13 19:31:00 <jurov>	Either the "reaging idiots" who supposedly are attracted to mp
Mar 13 19:31:01 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I have no idea what you're getting at.
Mar 13 19:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	i am getting at this :
Mar 13 19:31:15 <jurov>	Or the "reasonable people" that would be supportng him "if..."
Mar 13 19:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	if you spend your childhood living among white people, abnd being told niggers are to be identified by x y z and they do k l m things,
Mar 13 19:31:46 <midnightmagic>	jurov: Your English still needs work. My verb tense in context was indicative of that-which-happens-from-here-on.
Mar 13 19:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	you are bound to misbehave wehn confronted with actual black people.
Mar 13 19:32:35 <midnightmagic>	jurov: I dunno actual names. It's irrelevant to the point.
Mar 13 19:32:36 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 13 19:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	just so, it'd seem to me, you've been told how to identify independent thought, and what great evil it is, and now when you discover it in the actual world you immediately jump to the conclusion tis evil.
Mar 13 19:32:54 <Luke-Jr>	midnightmagic: O.o?
Mar 13 19:32:54 <jurov>	midnightmagic, so there was not the case in the past? what is the problem then?
Mar 13 19:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	tis not evil.
Mar 13 19:33:37 <midnightmagic>	Luke-Jr: hello. I hope all my statements including you were correctly inferenced as rhetorical device and not assertions of fact.
Mar 13 19:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 13 19:34:19 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I am not afraid to be civil. Why are you?
Mar 13 19:34:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Mar 13 19:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	you know, girl wants to get married. after tears have washed pointlessly about the room, her new line becomes "why are you affraid of commitment"
Mar 13 19:34:57 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not affraid of commitment bitch. i just don't care for your definition of it.
Mar 13 19:35:42 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I assert you are, have been, and will likely continue to be uncivil and discourteous.
Mar 13 19:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	being civil is not a formal concern. it does NOT mean not calling people idiots. if indeed they are idiots then that's that, verity proof.
Mar 13 19:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	beingcivil is a fundamental concern.
Mar 13 19:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	people who lie by presenting the mining corruption as "consensus", they are being uncivil.
Mar 13 19:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	and on a related point, you don't go to heaven by never saying "jesus sucks" etiher.
Mar 13 19:36:27 <benkay>	what do you mean by "mining corruption"?
Mar 13 19:36:32 <midnightmagic>	That is an English definitional nuance which you are assuming, but which is not reality.
Mar 13 19:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	benkay do you know how the most recent fork was resolved ?
Mar 13 19:36:53 <benkay>	sort of; devs said "use 0.7" and everyone did
Mar 13 19:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic that dispute as to reality will have to come to my grave.
Mar 13 19:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	benkay what more do you need ?
Mar 13 19:37:08 <midnightmagic>	Aumann's agreement theorem I guess.
Mar 13 19:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	stalin said "everyone vote" and evertyone did. what democratic process is this ?
Mar 13 19:37:23 <benkay>	heh
Mar 13 19:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	well ?
Mar 13 19:37:30 <benkay>	how many times do you think they can pull it off?
Mar 13 19:37:31 <mircea_popescu>	but ok, i can understand it happening.
Mar 13 19:37:32 <benkay>	1?
Mar 13 19:37:34 <benkay>	infinity?
Mar 13 19:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	i CANT uinderstand it being passed for what it's not
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Mar 13 19:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	in an ultimately doomed effort to prop the dirt as respectable.
Mar 13 19:37:52 <benkay>	that's just politics though
Mar 13 19:38:06 <midnightmagic>	Gah.. dude.. your weird sayings aren't translating so well.
Mar 13 19:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	well that's unfortunate for them because i happen to be better at politics than they're at coding.
Mar 13 19:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	benkay anyway the effort is to make sure it's 1.
Mar 13 19:38:54 <benkay>	i say < 3
Mar 13 19:39:04 <benkay>	no
Mar 13 19:39:07 <benkay>	less than or equal to
Mar 13 19:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	or better yet 5
Mar 13 19:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	19
Mar 13 19:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	42.
Mar 13 19:39:24 <benkay>	not saying should
Mar 13 19:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	definitely.
Mar 13 19:39:30 <benkay>	but offering a wager
Mar 13 19:39:31 <mircea_popescu>	i get it.
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Mar 13 19:39:42 <Luke-Jr>	midnightmagic: I didn't understand the context :P
Mar 13 19:40:40 <midnightmagic>	Luke-Jr: I was just asserting that the amount of work you do in bitcoind essentially makes you a bitcoin developer, even if your name isn't on bitcoin.org.
Mar 13 19:40:43 <BitHub>	hey guys did you get your ASICMINER div as well?
Mar 13 19:40:45 <jurov>	Luke-Jr: don't sweat, me too, he sounds serious but in the end it's all just hypothetical
Mar 13 19:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr he's somehow bothered with everyone mocking you for trying your damnest to pass yourself off as a dev
Mar 13 19:41:27 <mircea_popescu>	when you're a sort of glorified taaki
Mar 13 19:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	ie, the floor washer.
Mar 13 19:41:32 <midnightmagic>	Luke-Jr: I also proffered the possibility you didn't want your name up there on purpose, to outline our collective ignorance.
Mar 13 19:41:37 <Luke-Jr>	midnightmagic: I got that, but .. why did it matter? XD
Mar 13 19:42:31 <midnightmagic>	Luke-Jr: I dunno why he started ranting about you. But he gets upset when I don't address each of his points individually.
Mar 13 19:42:39 <Luke-Jr>	midnightmagic: I don't see it as something worth my time arguing a case for.
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Mar 13 19:42:56 <benkay>	has anything in this conversation?
Mar 13 19:43:03 <Luke-Jr>	in other news https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/sensemaster/91-blog-entry-deleting-o-o.html
Mar 13 19:43:07 <Luke-Jr>	err
Mar 13 19:43:09 <Luke-Jr>	wrong link XD
Mar 13 19:43:14 <Luke-Jr>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/luke-jr/97-preparing-my-trip-bfl.html
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Mar 13 19:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	glwt.
Mar 13 19:43:45 <BitHub>	ahhh Luke, going there to pick it up?
Mar 13 19:44:06 <BitHub>	excited?
Mar 13 19:44:11 <Luke-Jr>	BitHub: not sure if I'll pick it up or let them ship it
Mar 13 19:44:29 <Luke-Jr>	although I guess they might be expecting me to take it with me
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Mar 13 19:45:52 <mircea_popescu>	actually just the time to get a box of fans.
Mar 13 19:46:29 <BitHub>	are you kind of going there to confirm it all?
Mar 13 19:47:12 <dub>	heh
Mar 13 19:47:14 <BitHub>	so you'll pretty much be teh first person with a bfl?
Mar 13 19:47:58 <mircea_popescu>	this will be so epic
Mar 13 19:49:17 <dub>	BitHub: yes re: AM div btw (sorry for the on-topic interlude people)
Mar 13 19:49:38 <BitHub>	nice dubs
Mar 13 19:49:48 <BitHub>	this weeks seemed the highest yet
Mar 13 19:50:03 <dub>	yeah, enjoy, next week is the last
Mar 13 19:50:10 <BitHub>	what?
Mar 13 19:50:12 <dub>	of this magnitude
Mar 13 19:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	ya wut ?
Mar 13 19:50:19 <BitHub>	WHAT?
Mar 13 19:50:23 <BitHub>	serial?
Mar 13 19:50:29 <Luke-Jr>	BitHub: I'm mainly going there to make sure BFGMiner is ready to go (shipping on the MiniRigs)
Mar 13 19:50:58 <BitHub>	nice
Mar 13 19:51:42 <dub>	catfriedrice said next weeks will fullfil the 'pay out 0.1 first' requirement, which seems about right, so next divs will be half less more expenses
Mar 13 19:51:58 <BitHub>	ahh ghey
Mar 13 19:52:08 <BitHub>	good time to sell then
Mar 13 19:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 13 19:53:01 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.695 / 0.70412 / 0.724998 (285 shares, 200.7 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.71126 / 1 (1286 shares, 914.7 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.6947 / 1 (1763 shares, 1224.8 BTC)
Mar 13 19:53:18 <mircea_popescu>	such a blown stock.
Mar 13 19:53:21 <benkay>	i know that and i'm not even holding any
Mar 13 19:53:37 <BitHub>	hmmm
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Mar 13 19:56:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 1000 @ 0.03383499 = 33.835 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 19:56:28 <benkay>	in other news, loud black humans in snack car
Mar 13 19:56:35 <benkay>	ruin my train trip why doncha
Mar 13 19:56:41 <benkay>	PLUS COUNTRY
Mar 13 19:56:42 <benkay>	sheesh.
Mar 13 19:56:47 <mircea_popescu>	i like country.
Mar 13 19:58:01 <benkay>	which?
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Mar 13 19:59:43 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, cash
Mar 13 20:00:09 <dub>	duelling banjos
Mar 13 20:00:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.72 = 1.44 BTC [+]
Mar 13 20:00:35 <BitHub>	willie nelson?
Mar 13 20:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	turkey in the straw if you count it
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Mar 13 20:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno that i've listened to much of that guy.
Mar 13 20:01:20 <sevenWiabores>	hello
Mar 13 20:01:23 <BitHub>	he blazes alot
Mar 13 20:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	sevenWiabores hi
Mar 13 20:01:34 <benkay>	^^ very important information
Mar 13 20:01:38 <benkay>	;)
Mar 13 20:01:40 <BitHub>	haha
Mar 13 20:01:55 <sevenWiabores>	who are you mircea_popescu, your nick sounds very familiar
Mar 13 20:02:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.721337 = 3.6067 BTC [+]
Mar 13 20:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	i am mircea popescu. how about you ?
Mar 13 20:02:22 <benkay>	(to finish that story, the best part was the really uptight black guy staring at the loud negroes)
Mar 13 20:02:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 500 @ 0.0453858 = 22.6929 BTC [-]
Mar 13 20:02:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.724869 BTC [+]
Mar 13 20:02:41 <benkay>	(i just told them i could block out high dB convserations or music but not both)
Mar 13 20:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	ok willie nelson kinda sucks,.
Mar 13 20:02:56 <dub>	continuing the wtfality of bitcoin asset universe
Mar 13 20:03:13 <mircea_popescu>	or at least his cover of blue eyes cryin'
Mar 13 20:03:34 <dub>	doom projected for AM profits in varios places == increased demand
Mar 13 20:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	benkay lol why so passive-agressive
Mar 13 20:03:44 <sevenWiabores>	I am just nobody, but I am pretty sure I saw your name somewhere... I am new to the bitcoin world and I am not familiar with the who's who
Mar 13 20:03:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.724869 = 2.1746 BTC [+]
Mar 13 20:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	dub this is becominga tradition.
Mar 13 20:03:55 <benkay>	hardly passive aggressive for the pacnw
Mar 13 20:04:03 <jurov>	gonna organize am shorting
Mar 13 20:04:19 <jurov>	in fact i didn't list anything new on bitfunder for some time
Mar 13 20:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	sevenWiabores i run mpex.
Mar 13 20:04:20 <benkay>	spent much time in this corner of the us, mircea_popescu?
Mar 13 20:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	alternatively, some people don't like me. they run things into the ground.
Mar 13 20:04:42 <dub>	jurov: can you convince Ukto to make it render in firefox?
Mar 13 20:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	benkay which corner is that ?
Mar 13 20:04:47 <sevenWiabores>	aah, I see. ohai :)
Mar 13 20:04:47 <benkay>	northwest
Mar 13 20:04:49 <dub>	jurov: buttfunder that is
Mar 13 20:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	sure, i lived like a year in lowell, mass
Mar 13 20:04:59 <jurov>	dub, you mean misplaced buy/sell boxes?
Mar 13 20:05:00 <Ukto>	make what render?
Mar 13 20:05:11 <dub>	make the market link visible
Mar 13 20:05:14 <LameCoin->	mircea are you from romania or US your english is american?
Mar 13 20:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	o nm, you said west.
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Mar 13 20:05:24 <Ukto>	where is it not visible?
Mar 13 20:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 152 @ 0.00599987 = 0.912 BTC [+]
Mar 13 20:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- im from romania, but i've lived all over.
Mar 13 20:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 80 @ 0.00599987 = 0.48 BTC [+]
Mar 13 20:05:29 <dub>	on the front page
Mar 13 20:05:38 <LameCoin->	mircea where did you like it best
Mar 13 20:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	costa rica, probably.
Mar 13 20:05:46 <LameCoin->	a friend of mine is from timisoara
Mar 13 20:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	land of eternal spring.
Mar 13 20:05:59 <Ukto>	dub: hm. you dont see it in the top left?
Mar 13 20:06:03 <mircea_popescu>	it does get boring, but very slowly.
Mar 13 20:06:06 <dub>	Ukto: sometimes I do
Mar 13 20:06:08 <Ukto>	'View asset market'
Mar 13 20:06:14 <Ukto>	sometimes?
Mar 13 20:06:17 <Ukto>	what browser?
Mar 13 20:06:20 <dub>	Ukto: depends on teh machine/browser im on
Mar 13 20:06:20 <mircea_popescu>	dub this is like the most halpful bug reporting ever
Mar 13 20:06:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.72489 = 21.7467 BTC [+]
Mar 13 20:06:25 <dub>	ff is the failing one
Mar 13 20:06:37 <dub>	well its been reported before
Mar 13 20:06:44 <mircea_popescu>	how do you know lol
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Mar 13 20:06:47 <Ukto>	what version? I hadnt seen it lol
Mar 13 20:06:51 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: why did you choose to live in romania?
Mar 13 20:06:56 <Ukto>	17.0.1 works fine
Mar 13 20:06:59 <LameCoin->	for the women
Mar 13 20:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	back in 2007 it became obvious the us is sinking. didn't want to be on that part of the world. had to go somewhere.
Mar 13 20:07:14 <jurov>	Ukto if you resize the width to around 1000-1100px
Mar 13 20:07:24 <LameCoin->	timisoara is nice its different then the rest of romania
Mar 13 20:07:25 <jurov>	the view asset bar hides
Mar 13 20:07:25 <Ukto>	ahhhh
Mar 13 20:07:30 <Ukto>	i see that
Mar 13 20:07:34 <dub>	19 here, pretty sure it was broke in some previous, goat was having problems a few days ago too
Mar 13 20:07:35 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- it's closer to vienna than bucharest indeed.
Mar 13 20:07:41 <Ukto>	yeah, i will get it fixed.
Mar 13 20:07:42 <Ukto>	thanks guys
Mar 13 20:08:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.72489 = 1.4498 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 20:08:23 <Ukto>	oh, i see why
Mar 13 20:08:29 <Ukto>	the top bar spans 2 lines and covers it
Mar 13 20:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	BDB bug ?
Mar 13 20:08:32 <LameCoin->	mircea: do you think that fork could have been the end of bitcoin?
Mar 13 20:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- that fork itself could have festered if anyone ddosed the attacking pool.
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Mar 13 20:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	but not really. the burried problems that caused the fork however most definitely will end btcoin if unadressed.
Mar 13 20:10:12 <LameCoin->	i really dont like these alternates like litecoin inflating the money supply
Mar 13 20:10:26 <mircea_popescu>	you will have to learn to live with competition.
Mar 13 20:10:36 <mircea_popescu>	it's as unavoidable as rain.
Mar 13 20:11:08 <benkay>	i'm not even convinced we've converged on a codebase
Mar 13 20:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	certainly are not.
Mar 13 20:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	just the butthurt when somebody finally says, wait, you think you people matter ?!
Mar 13 20:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	is ample proof this wasn't even seriously considered, let alone settled.
Mar 13 20:12:30 <LameCoin->	the development team became to obsessed thinking they are economists and philosophers
Mar 13 20:12:47 <LameCoin->	nerds should never be given any type of authority
Mar 13 20:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	when they're barely qualified to write code. but anyway :
Mar 13 20:12:59 <Ukto>	hm, i think I will just move terms and conditions to the footer
Mar 13 20:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	preparing for the "too big to fail" arguments, it'll be a warm summer.
Mar 13 20:13:08 <Ukto>	its wasting too much space
Mar 13 20:13:17 <LameCoin->	mircea what do you mean?
Mar 13 20:13:17 <BitHub>	some of these guys aren't qualified?
Mar 13 20:13:38 <BitHub>	kind of like getting the airport janitor to fly the plane no?
Mar 13 20:13:52 <benkay>	oh be nice
Mar 13 20:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- i mean that's what's coming next, "guise our shit has taken too much blood sweat and tears to be abandoned and we should forever wallow in it"
Mar 13 20:13:55 <benkay>	turbine blade engineer
Mar 13 20:14:12 <benkay>	still should not fly plane.
Mar 13 20:14:19 <LameCoin->	are you suggesting they wont repair the problems?
Mar 13 20:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	that's what midnightmagic means by concorde fallacy :  the mistaken idea that the current codebase is useful because it cost people a lot of money through all the bugs it pushed on them so far.
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Mar 13 20:14:48 <LameCoin->	why cant someone else develop it?
Mar 13 20:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- they would if they could. so far their consensus seems to be they're not smart enough to do it.
Mar 13 20:14:56 <Bowjob>	http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3td1ly/
Mar 13 20:15:08 <Bowjob>	True story ^.
Mar 13 20:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 13 20:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	i learned about it when it was 15. bought like 1k worth
Mar 13 20:15:26 <BitHub>	maybe everyone should pitch in a lil btc to pay teh pros
Mar 13 20:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	then it was 2 for a while.
Mar 13 20:15:31 <Bowjob>	I told my friend about it
Mar 13 20:15:38 <LameCoin->	bowjob: nobody ever buys bottoms
Mar 13 20:15:45 <Bowjob>	now he's like.. can I buy $300 worth?
Mar 13 20:15:58 <LameCoin->	bowjob: less then 0.1% of bitcoiners actually held coins from $2 to $50
Mar 13 20:16:03 <Bowjob>	I'm like.. no. I can sell you $100
Mar 13 20:16:08 <Bowjob>	well
Mar 13 20:16:14 <midnightmagic>	It is applicable to that idea, were it true, yes.
Mar 13 20:16:16 <Bowjob>	it would be nice if you missed all the crashing
Mar 13 20:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- got a figure ?
Mar 13 20:16:29 <Bowjob>	This was when BTC started from 13 to 50 rally
Mar 13 20:16:38 <Bowjob>	it was 17 when i mentioned it
Mar 13 20:16:41 <LameCoin->	mircea it works the same for any bull market, 1983-2000 dow jones 75% of the public didnt even participate one bit
Mar 13 20:16:43 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic do you have the figure for "how much unencrypted wallet.dat" cost ?
Mar 13 20:16:57 <LameCoin->	everyone got in 1999
Mar 13 20:17:07 <Ukto>	dub: there, problem fixed
Mar 13 20:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- this is true. i'm just saying, i think a lot more people held btc than .1%
Mar 13 20:17:25 <LameCoin->	from $2-50 ?
Mar 13 20:17:25 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Do you have the figure for how much the encrypted wallet.dat has cost?
Mar 13 20:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- yes.
Mar 13 20:17:45 <dub>	Ukto: <3
Mar 13 20:17:45 <LameCoin->	i doubt it go read on bitcoin talk how many sold out after 20-30% gains hoping to buy back in
Mar 13 20:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic sadly power-ranger team has not the time to do any auditing or reporting, so no.
Mar 13 20:17:52 <LameCoin->	the 10-20 move everyone sold
Mar 13 20:17:52 <Bowjob>	Theres this dude who forgot he had a wallet.dat with lots of coins
Mar 13 20:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob you mean bitcoinica ?
Mar 13 20:18:08 <Ukto>	I was tired of seeing that link up there anyways.
Mar 13 20:18:09 <jurov>	Ukto, did you test it in chrome?
Mar 13 20:18:12 <Bowjob>	nah, it was a single person
Mar 13 20:18:19 <Bowjob>	he gave away 350 BTC to reddit users
Mar 13 20:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- do you mean .1% by headcount or by coincount ?
Mar 13 20:18:23 <Bowjob>	i got 5 btc from that stash
Mar 13 20:18:28 <Ukto>	jurov: just did
Mar 13 20:18:30 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Always the insults. And how does derogatory statements that are purely derogatory fit under the "telling the truth" umbrella you were espousing earlier?
Mar 13 20:18:31 <Bowjob>	i assume he had thosands
Mar 13 20:18:35 <jurov>	in konqueror+webkit it still does hide
Mar 13 20:18:46 <Ukto>	is the terms still at the top ?
Mar 13 20:18:50 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic point of fact is, the only way we know how much implementing it cost is by devteam saying "we spent 5 hours doing this"
Mar 13 20:18:53 <jurov>	but that's fringe browser, never mind
Mar 13 20:19:04 <jurov>	no term si on bottom
Mar 13 20:19:12 <Ukto>	but it acts the same? 0,o
Mar 13 20:19:17 <Ukto>	i will try to check it  a bit later
Mar 13 20:19:20 <LameCoin->	mircea: from my studies of markets, it is very very rare that anyone participates in a huge move
Mar 13 20:19:25 <Ukto>	have to get konqueror
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Mar 13 20:19:33 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Were you referring to how many bitcoins were lost due to a wallet being easily stolen by a hacker?
Mar 13 20:19:36 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- markets in general or bitcoin ?
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Mar 13 20:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic yes.
Mar 13 20:19:54 <Ukto>	either way, thanks for letting me know guys. mucho appreciato. :)
Mar 13 20:20:01 <LameCoin->	mircea: considering herding applies to all markets, even bitcoin just go read how many missed the boat on the latest rally over on the forums its astonishing
Mar 13 20:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol appreciato
Mar 13 20:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	donde esta la zapatoria!
Mar 13 20:20:09 <jurov>	Ukto, just get webkit anything, like chromium. konqueror pulls half of kde in.
Mar 13 20:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- it's a weak supposition this, linear generalisation from fiat to bitcoin markets. we're still working at getting the hang of this
Mar 13 20:20:41 <LameCoin->	how many in here rode bitcoin from $2 to 50
Mar 13 20:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	there's a lot of paradoxical movement (dub was referring one of the more documented types recentyl)
Mar 13 20:20:47 <LameCoin->	or even 10 to 50
Mar 13 20:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	i held over 10k from 2 to 50.
Mar 13 20:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	significantly over 10k.
Mar 13 20:21:05 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: So tell me after all these months of vitriol.. how successful have you been at dividing bitcoin into "actual reasonable people" and "worthless" people?
Mar 13 20:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	i know for a fact i'm not the only one.
Mar 13 20:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic months ?!
Mar 13 20:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	fork was yesterday dawg.
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Mar 13 20:21:37 <LameCoin->	mircea if you take a poll of channel you will find it to be a small %
Mar 13 20:21:40 <midnightmagic>	You've been hating on the devs for far longer than that.
Mar 13 20:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	have not. quote.
Mar 13 20:22:04 <midnightmagic>	Uh. Okay.
Mar 13 20:22:15 <LameCoin->	midnightmagic: well he has a point, the devs have turned into economists and politicians, they are suppose to be coders
Mar 13 20:22:32 <LameCoin->	midnightmagic: nerds love to give themselves excessive credit when they percieve something going their way
Mar 13 20:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- i know at least a coupla people here who held, so it'd be above 1% for sure :)
Mar 13 20:23:11 <midnightmagic>	LameCoin-: I have no idea how you'd even show that without your hypothesis instantly falling to contradiction.
Mar 13 20:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic you still got any coins minted a year or two ago ?
Mar 13 20:24:11 <LameCoin->	mircea: what type of market cap are you realstically expecting for bitcoin
Mar 13 20:24:17 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Continue as though I do.
Mar 13 20:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 2 / 119
Mar 13 20:24:32 <gribble>	0.0168067226891
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Mar 13 20:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	there lamecoin, 1.6%
Mar 13 20:24:44 <midnightmagic>	1.7..
Mar 13 20:24:56 <mircea_popescu>	im generous, give him his .1% :p
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Mar 13 20:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- re the mkt cap :
Mar 13 20:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;google flexibility inflexibility trilema
Mar 13 20:25:25 <gribble>	Voluntary contracts, after a while. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/>; "bernanke put" and the fed's trilemma - Pragmatic Capitalism: <http://pragcap.com/bernank-put>; External factors and Philippine monetary policy - Bank for ...: <http://www.bis.org/publ/bppdf/bispap57s.pdf>
Mar 13 20:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	the bah
Mar 13 20:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/
Mar 13 20:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	i'd better start remembering at least the motherfucking titles.
Mar 13 20:26:57 <LameCoin->	14k per coin is enough to support  a 50 trillion dollar global economy assuming everyone uses nothing but bitcoin
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Mar 13 20:27:41 <LameCoin->	so we can assume thousands per coin are not really realistic
Mar 13 20:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 13 20:28:06 <dub>	LameCoin-: remember we can divide the coins further
Mar 13 20:28:22 <LameCoin->	the current world has a base money supply of about 4 trillion
Mar 13 20:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- notional derivative trade is literally boundless.
Mar 13 20:28:54 <LameCoin->	thats not money
Mar 13 20:28:57 <jurov>	dub, that could end up akin to "oh we can add some bits to internet address later"
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Mar 13 20:28:59 <mircea_popescu>	if it settles in bitcoin it doesn't even matter if the world uses zimbabwe dollars.
Mar 13 20:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it definitely will,
Mar 13 20:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	but that's a minor point comparing to the other hairs sticking out of the code
Mar 13 20:29:28 <dub>	jurov: it'd require a fork yea
Mar 13 20:30:47 <dub>	one would hope it isnt going to require as many forlifts as your example
Mar 13 20:30:51 <LameCoin->	the balance of macroeconomic power will never shift from the west in our lifetime
Mar 13 20:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- it's shifted already, forget it.
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Mar 13 20:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	"the west" is a bit player.
Mar 13 20:31:17 <LameCoin->	mircea: how so? can you name any innovations/products you actually use from the east?
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Mar 13 20:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	products are not the point. you were discussing macroeconomy.
Mar 13 20:31:35 <dub>	forklifts*
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Mar 13 20:31:43 <BitHub>	rice
Mar 13 20:31:44 <LameCoin->	the east has nothing to offer to be honest
Mar 13 20:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	to you.
Mar 13 20:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	the problem seems to be you're mingling a lot of assumptions crafted for comfort into your estimations.
Mar 13 20:32:10 <LameCoin->	china with 1.6billion people has *0* worldwide brands
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Mar 13 20:32:24 <LameCoin->	the only ones they have were purchased from the west ie lenovo
Mar 13 20:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	LameCoin- because by "worldwide" you count a pool of 2-300mn people nobody cares abnout.
Mar 13 20:32:37 <BitHub>	who needs brands when ya making money
Mar 13 20:32:41 <mircea_popescu>	fact is, the us has zero worldwide brands in the sense that china has baidu and doesn't care about google.
Mar 13 20:32:45 <LameCoin->	bithub but they arent making money
Mar 13 20:32:53 <LameCoin->	most asian companies have aweful ROI
Mar 13 20:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	o boy.
Mar 13 20:33:05 <BitHub>	is that why they own most of usa's debt?
Mar 13 20:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	dude. macroeconomy! balance of trade!
Mar 13 20:33:26 <LameCoin->	bithub: thats because they recycle it through debasement of their own currency
Mar 13 20:33:33 <mircea_popescu>	0.0
Mar 13 20:33:38 <LameCoin->	mircea: the balance of trade in the EU is positive.
Mar 13 20:33:43 <BitHub>	west isn't even using m-wallets or m-commerce yet
Mar 13 20:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	the stakes just got too high for my blood in this convo.
Mar 13 20:34:00 <LameCoin->	the US balance of trade is mostly energy
Mar 13 20:34:33 <LameCoin->	asians are running modern day versions of mercantalism
Mar 13 20:34:53 <LameCoin->	they think the way to prosperity is subsidizing exports in order to accumulate intrinsically worthless dollars
Mar 13 20:35:11 <BitHub>	don't hate
Mar 13 20:35:18 <LameCoin->	read what happend to the british when they believed in mercantalism
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Mar 13 20:35:27 <BitHub>	we're making money over ere
Mar 13 20:35:47 <LameCoin->	once again, most asians firms have absolutely aweful ROI's
Mar 13 20:35:47 <BitHub>	asia baby
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Mar 13 20:36:07 <BitHub>	buying up usa's debt
Mar 13 20:36:58 <LameCoin->	if the balance of power was shifting to the east we would all be using asian brands and praising asian innovations
Mar 13 20:37:02 <LameCoin->	none of that is occuring
Mar 13 20:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	every item you currently use was made in asia.
Mar 13 20:37:13 <LameCoin->	only low end manufacturing comes out of china
Mar 13 20:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	your asian cultural masters slapped an american looking label on it
Mar 13 20:37:22 <LameCoin->	mircea: wrong, only the lowest tech
Mar 13 20:37:26 <mircea_popescu>	and you're superficial enough for that to work.
Mar 13 20:37:34 <BitHub>	haha
Mar 13 20:37:46 <LameCoin->	the largest exporter in the world per capita is actually germany
Mar 13 20:37:53 <BitHub>	its true, its a good trick
Mar 13 20:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	even when it came to it, asian firms delivered mining asics
Mar 13 20:38:02 <mircea_popescu>	american firms are still suckingtheir thumb.
Mar 13 20:38:03 <LameCoin->	they didnt innovate them
Mar 13 20:38:11 <LameCoin->	they only were capable of producing them
Mar 13 20:38:14 <BitHub>	but they delivered them
Mar 13 20:38:22 <BitHub>	what's blf doing again?
Mar 13 20:38:28 <Bowjob>	not shipping
Mar 13 20:38:29 <LameCoin->	because they have low end manufacturing capability
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Mar 13 20:38:32 <BitHub>	asking for more money?
Mar 13 20:38:34 <LameCoin->	put it this way
Mar 13 20:38:44 <LameCoin->	when mercedes builds a 100k vehicle in a day
Mar 13 20:38:58 <LameCoin->	an asian manufacturer has to produce a months worth+ of low end trinkets
Mar 13 20:39:02 <LameCoin->	to exchange for the good
Mar 13 20:39:17 <LameCoin->	asian productivity is extremely low
Mar 13 20:39:31 <mircea_popescu>	dude. srsly.
Mar 13 20:39:40 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is mined on asian designed, asian produced, asian delivered asics.
Mar 13 20:39:50 <mircea_popescu>	forget it already, you're running with a dead horse.
Mar 13 20:39:53 <BitHub>	mtgox is in asia now btw
Mar 13 20:39:56 <BitHub>	lulz
Mar 13 20:39:59 <LameCoin->	yea japan
Mar 13 20:40:17 <mircea_popescu>	inb4 "japan is really just further west"
Mar 13 20:40:21 <LameCoin->	japans entire manufacturing infrastructure was developed from western instruction after WW2
Mar 13 20:40:25 <BitHub>	nah i dont really care i love both the west and asia
Mar 13 20:40:28 <LameCoin->	they just excell at implementation
Mar 13 20:40:34 <LameCoin->	again 0 innovation
Mar 13 20:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Mar 13 20:40:47 <BitHub>	they both got great girls
Mar 13 20:41:06 <LameCoin->	name a product innovated from japan?
Mar 13 20:41:11 <Bowjob>	anime
Mar 13 20:41:22 <Bowjob>	sushi
Mar 13 20:41:22 <BitHub>	fuji
Mar 13 20:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	"it's not a worldwide brand"
Mar 13 20:41:27 <Bowjob>	gundams
Mar 13 20:41:28 <BitHub>	bukakke
Mar 13 20:41:35 <LameCoin->	all electronics were EU tech, that the japanese perfected
Mar 13 20:41:38 <Bowjob>	bukakke noodles are delicious
Mar 13 20:41:38 <mircea_popescu>	pasty-ass kids just jack off to it that's all.
Mar 13 20:41:44 <BitHub>	used ladies panty vending machines
Mar 13 20:41:45 <Bowjob>	ps1,2,3, and 4
Mar 13 20:41:51 <Bowjob>	yeah i forgot about that
Mar 13 20:41:51 <BitHub>	handjob machine
Mar 13 20:42:03 <Bowjob>	live sushi
Mar 13 20:42:07 <BitHub>	the shaw brothers
Mar 13 20:42:08 <Bowjob>	where they serve live fish
Mar 13 20:42:10 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob sony is not a global brand stfu
Mar 13 20:42:14 <LameCoin->	as i stated before, if asians were going to rule we would be in awe at all the asian brands\innovations around us
Mar 13 20:42:15 <BitHub>	kill bill
Mar 13 20:42:17 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 13 20:42:18 <LameCoin->	fact is none of them exist
Mar 13 20:42:33 <BitHub>	you're just racist LameCoin
Mar 13 20:42:40 <BitHub>	jealous of asia or something
Mar 13 20:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	more like ostrichist
Mar 13 20:42:49 <dub>	asia survive with brute force, they add little value overwall
Mar 13 20:42:50 <LameCoin->	im just stating its a myth that the east is taking anything over
Mar 13 20:42:52 <Bowjob>	they invented engrish as well
Mar 13 20:42:57 <LameCoin->	dub: exactly
Mar 13 20:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	dub typical scotsman argument.
Mar 13 20:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	this is like saying mpex doesn't add value because css.
Mar 13 20:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	things don't work that way, you don't get to define what value is.
Mar 13 20:43:45 <BitHub>	its like saying the scottish and welsh and irish add no value to britian
Mar 13 20:43:46 <LameCoin->	the only value asia added was providing cheap manufacturing facilities
Mar 13 20:43:49 <dub>	all of these tech innovators you ascribe have higher suicide rates in their sweatshops than american unemployment
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Mar 13 20:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.75 = 10.5 BTC [+]
Mar 13 20:44:08 <LameCoin->	there are no tech innovators coming out of asia
Mar 13 20:44:12 *	neonman is now known as neon_
Mar 13 20:44:13 <dub>	it will cease to scale at some point
Mar 13 20:44:16 <LameCoin->	its only primitive manufacturing
Mar 13 20:44:16 <mircea_popescu>	dub and maybe that's a good thing.
Mar 13 20:44:33 <LameCoin->	they dont even have the capacity for advanced manufacturing ie germany style
Mar 13 20:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	dude omfg stop with the bs already
Mar 13 20:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	all harddrives in the world are made in the same azn river bank
Mar 13 20:44:54 <LameCoin->	how is it bs?
Mar 13 20:44:57 <mircea_popescu>	when that floods the price doubles.
Mar 13 20:44:59 <LameCoin->	yea and?
Mar 13 20:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	all memory is made there. all semiconductors are produced in asia
Mar 13 20:45:09 <LameCoin->	putting a HD together is LOW end manufacturing
Mar 13 20:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	you're from a different future.
Mar 13 20:46:00 <BitHub>	who needs to innvoate when you can rip everything off
Mar 13 20:46:28 <dub>	thats edge case shit, they produce tech because we did the maff and worked out it was cheaper to let them do it
Mar 13 20:46:38 <BitHub>	isn't that what Hollywood did to John WOO?
Mar 13 20:46:45 <LameCoin->	mass production is the easiest part of any product development
Mar 13 20:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	myea.
Mar 13 20:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	the first step to own your master is copy him.
Mar 13 20:47:21 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138919.0
Mar 13 20:47:38 <BitHub>	every good 90's action hollywood film wouldn't exists if they didn't rip off HK cinema
Mar 13 20:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152658.0
Mar 13 20:47:57 <LameCoin->	bithub: the only asian countries you praise are ironically the most westernized ones
Mar 13 20:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	are you like, being attacked or something ?
Mar 13 20:48:08 <LameCoin->	HK was british run, Japan completely rebuilt by america
Mar 13 20:48:17 <BitHub>	yeah till 97
Mar 13 20:48:18 <BitHub>	i remember
Mar 13 20:48:38 <LameCoin->	the wealthiest asian countries are all heavily western influenced
Mar 13 20:48:58 <LameCoin->	as i said outside of huge manpower, the east offers nothing
Mar 13 20:49:45 <BitHub>	and the west offers shitty products you don't need?
Mar 13 20:49:57 <LameCoin->	like high end goods ?
Mar 13 20:50:03 <BitHub>	like shake weight
Mar 13 20:51:28 <dub>	like spray on cheese and tube fish
Mar 13 20:52:02 <LameCoin->	i think the worst thing that can happen to bitcoin is inflation of money supply through many pointless forks being created
Mar 13 20:52:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72489 BTC [+]
Mar 13 20:52:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72489 BTC [+]
Mar 13 20:52:48 <Ukto>	thanks mircea_popescu
Mar 13 20:55:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00999 = 0.0999 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:00:22 <LameCoin->	im confused to why people are buying from a basement precious metals dealer?
Mar 13 21:00:37 <LameCoin->	with horrible pricing
Mar 13 21:01:13 <Namworld>	[20:52] <LameCoin-> i think the worst thing that can happen to bitcoin is inflation of money supply through many pointless forks being created
Mar 13 21:01:43 <Namworld>	what do you mean? There's many forks and they're mostly valueless
Mar 13 21:03:50 <kakobrekla>	> trusted BitcoinTalk member < theres such thing??
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Mar 13 21:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i trust people on there to deliver prime comedy
Mar 13 21:08:09 <LameCoin->	coinabul was a joke
Mar 13 21:08:17 <kakobrekla>	man you always know how to short it.
Mar 13 21:08:19 <LameCoin->	they had like $250 in capital from a piggy bank
Mar 13 21:08:41 <LameCoin->	coinabul was too poor to even carry inventory
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Mar 13 21:09:45 <dub>	a_meteorite: because bitcoin
Mar 13 21:09:50 <dub>	what teh fuck
Mar 13 21:09:55 <dub>	LameCoin-: ^
Mar 13 21:10:14 <LameCoin->	dub: what about it? they still had to convert coins to dollars
Mar 13 21:10:29 <LameCoin->	EU customers should have just cashed out their coins in euros and bought metals at a local dealer
Mar 13 21:10:33 <dub>	LameCoin-: because bitcoin idiots (perhaps more dconcise)
Mar 13 21:10:38 <LameCoin->	vs shipping it from the US from a guys basement lol
Mar 13 21:11:33 <dub>	I swear my typing really isnt this bad, make way less errors on local terminals, im blaming synergy
Mar 13 21:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	blame sensodyne integrated node.
Mar 13 21:13:29 <LameCoin->	anyone see the thread about bitcoinstore asking for charity to meet the 850k sales goal
Mar 13 21:13:30 <LameCoin->	lol
Mar 13 21:13:55 <dub>	I'd blame the corporate notwork except it happens at home too
Mar 13 21:14:27 <LameCoin->	bitcoinstore is not competitive, it costs 4-5% just to convert from fiat to bitcoin quickly
Mar 13 21:14:37 <LameCoin->	so why would anyone shop there vs amazon?
Mar 13 21:15:02 <dub>	because they got their bitcoin selling guns on SR
Mar 13 21:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 13 21:16:00 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.110910892487 seconds
Mar 13 21:16:02 <LameCoin->	i guess if your income is in bitcoin it makes sense
Mar 13 21:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 900 @ 0.03297065 = 29.6736 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 21:18:18 <LameCoin->	mircea: is there a price you would sell your coins at ?
Mar 13 21:18:40 <kakobrekla>	this one is going nice too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152784.msg1622255;topicseen#msg1622255
Mar 13 21:18:57 <kakobrekla>	no more margin on 1broker, icbit it lost in space
Mar 13 21:19:27 <mircea_popescu>	Actually there is a closing trade fee now for April and later contracts!
Mar 13 21:19:27 <mircea_popescu>	They added that in an attempt to force people out of their positions rather than just sitting on them; they claim it'll aid liquidity.  Greedy.
Mar 13 21:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 13 21:19:41 <LameCoin->	lol
Mar 13 21:19:42 <mircea_popescu>	basically... they fixed the site to stop cheating after i slapped them last year
Mar 13 21:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	but tht didn't make much money
Mar 13 21:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	so...
Mar 13 21:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.7999 = 8.9995 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.8 = 5.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 21:22:18 <kakobrekla>	while bit4x traded over 50mio units on fx :p
Mar 13 21:22:39 <kakobrekla>	its gonna get a lot wilder with dbtc
Mar 13 21:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	what's that, 5mn usd notional ?
Mar 13 21:23:05 *	oizotov_ (~irssi@gateway/tor-sasl/oizotov) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Mar 13 21:23:11 <kakobrekla>	hm id have to check dat
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Mar 13 21:24:21 <LameCoin->	what type of volume do mpex options do?
Mar 13 21:24:51 <LameCoin->	daily USD
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Mar 13 21:32:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.72489 = 11.5982 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:33:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.724999 = 2.9 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:34:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.724999 = 4.35 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:36:06 <jborkl>	so asicminer market cap is approx 13 million usd.:(
Mar 13 21:37:01 <BitHub>	is that bad?
Mar 13 21:37:16 <BitHub>	should i sell?
Mar 13 21:37:40 <jborkl>	didnt we already see that show ,didnt it start with  g and end with a s
Mar 13 21:37:58 <kakobrekla>	gas?
Mar 13 21:38:16 <jborkl>	reruns are kinda boring
Mar 13 21:38:42 <BitHub>	good times?
Mar 13 21:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.8 = 9 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:39:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.8 = 3.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 21:40:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.725 = 15.95 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 21:41:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 29 @ 0.7679 = 22.2691 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:43:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7679 = 1.5358 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:46:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 0.7679 = 17.6617 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 21:49:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.768 = 3.84 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 21:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer.pt
Mar 13 21:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 13 21:51:43 <assbot>	I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
Mar 13 21:51:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.03104, Best ask: 47.18000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14896, Last trade: 47.18000, 24 hour volume: 49293.76971465, 24 hour low: 44.80000, 24 hour high: 47.35000, 24 hour vwap: 46.58184
Mar 13 21:51:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769999 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 13 21:51:51 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.695 / 0.7171 / 0.768 (437 shares, 313.4 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.71809 / 1 (1361 shares, 977.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.69841 / 1 (1915 shares, 1337.4 BTC)
Mar 13 21:52:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 46.58184 * 400000* 0.69841
Mar 13 21:52:02 <gribble>	13013289.1498
Mar 13 21:52:07 <mircea_popescu>	13 on the dot!
Mar 13 21:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 13 21:52:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00515 / 0.00597371 / 0.00599987 (976 shares, 5.83 BTC), 7D: 0.00413 / 0.00526468 / 0.006 (140672 shares, 740.59 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00613969 / 0.0069 (2440740 shares, 14,985.40 BTC)
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Mar 13 21:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  46.58184 *100000000 *  0.00613969
Mar 13 21:52:49 <gribble>	28599805.723
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Mar 13 21:52:52 <mircea_popescu>	moar!
Mar 13 21:52:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7679 BTC [-]
Mar 13 21:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.57 = 1.14 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.83 = 5.49 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:56:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.769999 = 6.93 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:56:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.77 = 10.01 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:56:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.77 = 15.4 BTC [+]
Mar 13 21:57:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00579 = 0.0579 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 21:59:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
Mar 13 22:00:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 60 @ 0.2599 = 15.594 BTC [+]
Mar 13 22:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	The Obama administration is drawing up plans to give all U.S. spy agencies full access to a massive database that contains financial data on American citizens and others who bank in the country, according to a Treasury Department document seen by Reuters.
Mar 13 22:03:50 <mircea_popescu>	le lol.
Mar 13 22:04:07 <BitHub>	fuck mircea
Mar 13 22:04:26 <BitHub>	i think they decided to give up on google and apple
Mar 13 22:04:43 <BitHub>	and just go after the citazens again and get their taxes
Mar 13 22:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	yawell
Mar 13 22:06:17 <BitHub>	alot of USD bitcoiners about to get fucked
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Mar 13 22:08:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 22:09:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 1000 @ 0.04438197 = 44.382 BTC [-]
Mar 13 22:09:12 <Diablo-D3>	heh I guess asicminer is going weekly dividends
Mar 13 22:10:53 <BitHub>	some of these companies its hardly worth risking 50btc every month to get a lil div.
Mar 13 22:12:23 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: asicminer is the only company I'm really trusting atm
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Mar 13 22:12:57 <BitHub>	want to buy some more of their shares?
Mar 13 22:13:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.725 = 2.9 BTC [-]
Mar 13 22:13:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.725 = 1.45 BTC [-]
Mar 13 22:13:07 <BitHub>	i'm looking for a 1btc each exit
Mar 13 22:13:21 <BitHub>	lil high
Mar 13 22:14:20 <BitHub>	bbs, pm me d3 if intrested.
Mar 13 22:14:21 <Bowjob>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VPzw7bcfpw
Mar 13 22:14:26 <Bowjob>	Sell buttocins according to this dude
Mar 13 22:15:41 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: not interested at this time
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Mar 13 22:19:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 75 @ 0.00688 = 0.516 BTC [+]
Mar 13 22:22:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 22 @ 0.00688 = 0.1514 BTC [+]
Mar 13 22:24:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000705 = 0.0071 BTC [+]
Mar 13 22:26:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.00579 = 0.0347 BTC [+]
Mar 13 22:27:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.000706 = 0.0028 BTC [+]
Mar 13 22:29:23 <ThickAsThieves>	anything interesting happen today?
Mar 13 22:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	notrly
Mar 13 22:30:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 27 @ 0.000707 = 0.0191 BTC [+]
Mar 13 22:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 750 @ 0.04420293 = 33.1522 BTC [-]
Mar 13 22:35:14 <Troic>	well, etoro wants to join the fun but report all back to govt, old poker news rehashed, +ve bloomberg coverage and that malta fund thingy has new cringetastic site.
Mar 13 22:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	Troic apt summary.
Mar 13 22:37:59 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152892.msg1622460#msg1622460
Mar 13 22:40:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.2599 = 0.5198 BTC [+]
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Mar 13 22:54:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.00569985 = 1.368 BTC [-]
Mar 13 22:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 600 @ 0.05846793 = 35.0808 BTC [-]
Mar 13 22:57:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 13 22:57:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.68902, Best ask: 47.68943, Bid-ask spread: 0.00041, Last trade: 47.68901, 24 hour volume: 49887.21742911, 24 hour low: 45.00000, 24 hour high: 47.68901, 24 hour vwap: 46.70191
Mar 13 22:57:17 <Bowjob>	gearing up for $48 woo
Mar 13 22:58:50 <Namworld>	Damned...
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Mar 13 22:59:52 <Bowjob>	i look forward to the day I can pay with some of my expensive meals with 0.1 BTC
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Mar 13 23:01:21 <Namworld>	eheh
Mar 13 23:01:31 <Namworld>	For now it affords some fastfood snack
Mar 13 23:03:14 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 13 23:03:42 <Bowjob>	http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3td1ly/
Mar 13 23:03:46 <Bowjob>	my friend
Mar 13 23:03:46 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 13 23:03:50 <Bowjob>	true story
Mar 13 23:03:51 <dub>	whats and expensive meal?
Mar 13 23:03:52 <Bowjob>	3
Mar 13 23:04:01 <Bowjob>	$200, for 2 person
Mar 13 23:04:13 <Bowjob>	thats my average price
Mar 13 23:04:17 <dub>	I was gonna say $200 for 1 is starting to get pricey
Mar 13 23:04:50 <Bowjob>	its for 2
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Mar 13 23:05:04 <dub>	though one of my regular haunts has $1/gram steak minimum 200g
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Mar 13 23:05:16 <dub>	thats just he steak too, sides/sauce etc is extra
Mar 13 23:05:31 <Bowjob>	if its $1 a gram, it better be kobe beef
Mar 13 23:05:37 <Bowjob>	not some americanized wagyu steak
Mar 13 23:05:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00599986 BTC [+]
Mar 13 23:05:50 <dub>	its wagyu
Mar 13 23:06:03 <Bowjob>	from where tho
Mar 13 23:06:30 <dub>	I want to say australia but I can't remember
Mar 13 23:06:33 <dub>	might be japan
Mar 13 23:06:43 <Bowjob>	theres a ban on export of kobe beef
Mar 13 23:06:48 <Bowjob>	so it cant be from japan
Mar 13 23:06:57 <Bowjob>	most likely australia or america
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Mar 13 23:08:00 <dub>	paid $1500 for a table of 5 a little while ago, with plenty of booze
Mar 13 23:08:30 <Bowjob>	actually, i got my info wrong japan  lifted the ban on kobe beef
Mar 13 23:08:40 <Bowjob>	but it's still ultra rare in north america
Mar 13 23:09:04 <Bowjob>	i had american wagyu, it was delicious.. I wanna try the real thing one day
Mar 13 23:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	pork ftw.
Mar 13 23:09:53 <dub>	pork is shit
Mar 13 23:10:32 <dub>	even type-o's can't process that shit properly
Mar 13 23:13:00 <ThickAsThieves>	honestly i dont miss meat at all
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Mar 13 23:18:12 <dub>	y u no eat meat?
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Mar 13 23:18:40 <benkay>	aww blacktape where u goins?
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Mar 13 23:18:44 <dub>	my buddy has a good excuse 'I don't eat anything that has to shit'
Mar 13 23:18:45 <benkay>	there u iz.
Mar 13 23:20:20 <ThickAsThieves>	for every reason really
Mar 13 23:21:01 <ThickAsThieves>	also smoked cigs for 10 yrs and quit
Mar 13 23:21:16 <ThickAsThieves>	just stuff i dont need or want
Mar 13 23:21:21 <ThickAsThieves>	anymore
Mar 13 23:21:29 <ThickAsThieves>	on to new vices
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Mar 13 23:21:43 <dub>	I kicked smoking and most drugs
Mar 13 23:22:08 <dub>	none of my vego friends are particularly healthy
Mar 13 23:22:32 <dub>	they still shitty food
Mar 13 23:22:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm no supermodel, but thats mostly cuz i'm on the computer too much
Mar 13 23:22:39 <dub>	eat*
Mar 13 23:22:41 <ThickAsThieves>	doc says i'm fine
Mar 13 23:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.55 = 3.3 BTC [-]
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Mar 13 23:23:32 <ThickAsThieves>	anywho
Mar 13 23:23:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i think BFL will ship this month
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Mar 13 23:24:29 <dub>	because they are flying Luke-Jr out to make the software work?
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Mar 13 23:25:39 <dub>	given that they have not reached out to ask upgraders to return fpgas I doubt it
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Mar 13 23:26:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.0055 = 0.0165 BTC [-]
Mar 13 23:27:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.005 BTC [-]
Mar 13 23:27:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.005 = 0.25 BTC [-]
Mar 13 23:27:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 449 @ 0.005 = 2.245 BTC [-]
Mar 13 23:34:11 <benkay>	hey mircae_popescu: what will your new method for getting order id's out to brokers be?
Mar 13 23:34:17 <benkay>	i'm reading your feb 2013 "innards" post
Mar 13 23:34:54 <benkay>	and how does that manifest as a significant pain point? i haven't noticed a significant lag between when people post orders and when the pastebin goes up
Mar 13 23:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure what the question is
Mar 13 23:42:58 <benkay>	hang on
Mar 13 23:43:17 <benkay>	It doesn’t currently even know what id that order will receive in the trade engine, which is even more inconvenient for brokers that handle multiple customer accounts (but we’re working on a way to significantly mitigate this, which will be the next major update barring exigent necessity).
Mar 13 23:43:27 <benkay>	so a) what is new method
Mar 13 23:44:06 <benkay>	and b) not really a question but this is a pain point for people? just wait ten seconds for order id to get returned.
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Mar 13 23:46:19 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: yeah, lots of crazy people
Mar 13 23:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity is it an organised effort is my question
Mar 13 23:47:37 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: no idea, i work 20 hour days so i dont really pay attention to forums
Mar 13 23:48:00 <coingenuity>	mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, there's nothing of note to read there anyway... just a bunch of bitcoin-tabloid type topics bout nothing :/
Mar 13 23:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	coingenuity i have people paid to pay attention and i have people paid to man the watchtowers for me.
Mar 13 23:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	paranoia ftw.
Mar 13 23:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	benkay superficially it is not a problem, but on the old system (before the previous upgrade) there existed windows of a few minutes between when the trade engine executed and when the web proxies reported.
Mar 13 23:48:56 <kakobrekla>	wtf is this horse shit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152910.0
Mar 13 23:48:59 <mircea_popescu>	on one occasion this window was like one hour
Mar 13 23:49:14 <mircea_popescu>	it obviously couldn't go on.
Mar 13 23:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	the solution basically allows the person putting in the order to compute a hash of it and then identify it in their execution reports.
Mar 13 23:49:46 <benkay>	neat!
Mar 13 23:50:17 <benkay>	also thank you.
Mar 13 23:50:22 <mircea_popescu>	at the present time it only works if your order hits the book
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Mar 13 23:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	i am considering expanding it to work both ways and fully identify trades but there's also performance issues to consider and a whole keboodle.
Mar 13 23:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. working on it as they say.
Mar 13 23:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol continued support
Mar 13 23:53:20 <dub>	pokey as in Magical Pokey Usagi?
Mar 13 23:53:22 <kakobrekla>	and whats with the people funding fiat investments with bitcoin
Mar 13 23:53:25 <kakobrekla>	are they brain dead
Mar 13 23:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla yes, well...
Mar 13 23:55:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Mar 13 23:57:55 <benkay>	meh. let brokers track their own orders.
Mar 14 00:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	well ideally they should, but
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Mar 14 00:08:02 *	Ukto pokes coingenuity
Mar 14 00:08:37 <Ukto>	[21:21] <ThickAsThieves> i think BFL will ship this month <-- I see your putting your mouth where your money is. ;)
Mar 14 00:08:38 <Ukto>	j/k
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Mar 14 00:10:21 <kakobrekla>	Beauxe : Newbie : Re: Bitcoin Businesses and Developers, Let's Get Started! : Today at 04:07:51 AM
Mar 14 00:10:24 <kakobrekla>	I have run and started commodity exchanges. I am currently running one and would like to apply our technology and knowledge to bit coin. There is a decent possibility we may be able to list futures and other derivatives around BTC and LTC. Please whitelist me.
Mar 14 00:10:46 <kakobrekla>	fuck me.
Mar 14 00:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Mar 14 00:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla better start with the See here links
Mar 14 00:15:16 <benkay>	mircae how did you get into the business of starting an exchange?
Mar 14 00:15:29 <kakobrekla>	assbot would say 'you actions are useless'
Mar 14 00:16:49 <BitHub>	Bit Coins
Mar 14 00:16:51 <BitHub>	heh
Mar 14 00:18:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 00:18:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 00:18:31 <benkay>	smoke break on train!
Mar 14 00:18:35 <benkay>	i'm out
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Mar 14 00:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	why does he keep calling me mircae
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Mar 14 00:21:20 <kakobrekla>	http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U-G1FRmhtkQ/TtHOfdeKaII/AAAAAAAAAEs/H7GY4kqmG88/s1600/EhgJk.jpg
Mar 14 00:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	the day you find there's a new pope from this bitcoi nbetting site you're involved with
Mar 14 00:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	ya kakotrolka , i'm sure that's what it is.
Mar 14 00:22:07 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 14 00:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	"our technologies"
Mar 14 00:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	people are basically in the middle ages, they;'d like to apply their potions and salves
Mar 14 00:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	to bitcoin!
Mar 14 00:27:05 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile im trolling sarah silverman. curious how this goes.
Mar 14 00:27:36 <BitHub>	heh really?
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Mar 14 00:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/312057153810755586
Mar 14 00:29:04 <mircea_popescu>	in my experience nothing burns the retarded left more than pointing out that their bullshit is mostly dreamed up.
Mar 14 00:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it must remind them of their parents or something.
Mar 14 00:29:24 <BitHub>	hah maybe she's trolling?
Mar 14 00:29:56 <BitHub>	seems like something she would do
Mar 14 00:30:22 <BitHub>	nice background pic hehe
Mar 14 00:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	a contest!
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Mar 14 00:30:38 <toffoo>	any background story behind your twitter wallpaper photo mircea?
Mar 14 00:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't even notice, what's she got ?
Mar 14 00:30:49 <mircea_popescu>	a puppy oh
Mar 14 00:31:00 <toffoo>	i meant yours
Mar 14 00:31:01 <BitHub>	oh i thought it was mircea walking down the street
Mar 14 00:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	mkay i guess i grep the logs.
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Mar 14 00:31:22 <BitHub>	you know who's fun to troll on twitter? Kanye West
Mar 14 00:31:35 <BitHub>	because he'll actually take it serious and reply and go on about it
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Mar 14 00:33:12 <BitHub>	she was pretty hot in those seinfeld eps
Mar 14 00:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	wait. kayne west is female ?!
Mar 14 00:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo too lazy to grep this monstrous 2mb log. basically, me in mexico walking down the street eatin' chocolates
Mar 14 00:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	out of my european caryall
Mar 14 00:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.56899999 BTC [+]
Mar 14 00:34:03 <BitHub>	heh duh
Mar 14 00:34:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.569 BTC [+]
Mar 14 00:34:26 <mircea_popescu>	it's a dude gtfo
Mar 14 00:34:36 <BitHub>	its a gayfish
Mar 14 00:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 600 @ 0.05716318 = 34.2979 BTC [-]
Mar 14 00:35:26 <BitHub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nE7eofIeD4
Mar 14 00:35:45 <BitHub>	top 5 gayfish moments
Mar 14 00:36:22 <toffoo>	"it's not a purse, it's european"?
Mar 14 00:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
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Mar 14 00:39:37 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: update the faq and s/oldkeyid/newkeyid/. you changed it at the top, but oldkeyid persists further down.
Mar 14 00:39:44 <nanotube>	the mpex faq, that is.
Mar 14 00:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube yup, it's in process
Mar 14 00:40:50 <nanotube>	mk.
Mar 14 00:41:17 <coingenuity>	Ukto: hm, bfl?
Mar 14 00:41:38 <Ukto>	coingenuity: check your pms
Mar 14 00:41:41 <Ukto>	old fart
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Mar 14 00:51:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0139 BTC [-]
Mar 14 00:51:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
Mar 14 00:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	4 line quit message ? that guy should be klined
Mar 14 00:53:14 <grubles>	right?
Mar 14 00:53:22 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 14 00:54:12 <grubles>	mircea_popescu is there a way you can check if my account is active still
Mar 14 00:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	sure
Mar 14 00:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident grubles
Mar 14 00:54:38 <gribble>	Nick 'grubles', with hostmask 'grubles!~buttsniff@unaffiliated/grubles', is not identified.
Mar 14 00:54:48 <mircea_popescu>	you'll have to id
Mar 14 00:54:57 <grubles>	np
Mar 14 00:55:23 <grubles>	;;ident
Mar 14 00:55:24 <gribble>	You are identified as user grubles, with GPG key id DDA96139C85CA43C, key fingerprint E02F7FF6CF582669BB266B53DDA96139C85CA43C, and bitcoin address 1DYVwy7Ru7fJ8HwwoL5VHTUR5jCWG38JPk
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Mar 14 00:56:37 <mircea_popescu>	grubles yup.
Mar 14 00:57:00 <grubles>	kewl thanks
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Mar 14 01:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	!help
Mar 14 01:03:02 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 14 01:03:03 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 14 01:03:04 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 14 01:03:09 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 14 01:03:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00076706 / 0.00076706 / 0.00076706 (5000 shares, 3.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074201 / 0.00076718 (903469 shares, 670.39 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069343 / 0.00078628 (45613856 shares, 31,630.07 BTC)
Mar 14 01:03:33 <mircea_popescu>	!mp http://dpaste.com/ijustmadethisup
Mar 14 01:03:33 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 14 01:03:35 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1022369/plain/
Mar 14 01:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident assbot
Mar 14 01:03:53 <gribble>	Nick 'assbot', with hostmask 'assbot!~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot', is not identified.
Mar 14 01:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident mpexbot
Mar 14 01:04:04 <gribble>	Nick 'mpexbot', with hostmask 'mpexbot!~supybot@unaffiliated/smickles/bot/mpexbot', is not identified.
Mar 14 01:04:15 <grubles>	spam
Mar 14 01:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	hehe im writing an article
Mar 14 01:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	$help
Mar 14 01:04:23 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
Mar 14 01:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	$help post
Mar 14 01:04:35 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (post <paste key>) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.
Mar 14 01:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	$help vwap
Mar 14 01:04:47 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (vwap [<MPSIC>]) -- Returns a pastebin link with all available market data, excepting depth. If an MPSIC is specified, returns only the data relevant to that MPSIC in IRC.
Mar 14 01:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	$help depth
Mar 14 01:04:50 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (depth [<MPSIC>]) -- Returns the full market depth. If an MPSIC is specified, returns only the depth of the specified MPSIC in IRC.
Mar 14 01:04:56 <mircea_popescu>	$help proxies
Mar 14 01:04:56 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Mar 14 01:05:07 <mircea_popescu>	$post ijustmadethisup
Mar 14 01:05:08 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Mar 14 01:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	orly ?!
Mar 14 01:05:14 <mircea_popescu>	$post 12455
Mar 14 01:05:15 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Mar 14 01:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 14 01:05:26 <benkay>	*claps*
Mar 14 01:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	$post qU4hTtcP
Mar 14 01:05:33 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/fyMWzm04
Mar 14 01:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap O.BTCUSD.P750T
Mar 14 01:05:49 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: {u'7d': {u'cnt': u'5', u'min': u'79079695', u'max': u'90144085', u'vsa': u'216644138243', u'vsh': u'2408', u'avg': u'89968495.9481'}, u'30d': {u'cnt': u'33', u'min': u'79079695', u'max': u'153153505', u'vsa': u'3065600173348', u'vsh': u'28783', u'avg': u'106507319.367'}, u'1d': {u'cnt': u'', u'min': u'', u'max': u'', u'vsa': u'', u'vsh': u'', u'avg': u''}}
Mar 14 01:06:00 <mircea_popescu>	$depth S.BBET
Mar 14 01:06:01 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Bids: ['300 @ 150000', '500 @ 140000', '1000 @ 130000', '1000 @ 120010', '5000 @ 120000']
Mar 14 01:06:02 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['300 @ 181000', '500 @ 183000', '1000 @ 185000', '3000 @ 190000', '2210 @ 197000']
Mar 14 01:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies
Mar 14 01:06:08 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com", "http://mpex6.coinbr.com"]
Mar 14 01:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	ok sorry for spam everyone, documenting this.
Mar 14 01:07:32 <benkay>	dev team thinks tests are silly
Mar 14 01:07:44 <grubles>	lul
Mar 14 01:07:52 <benkay>	mpex runs tests on production in public
Mar 14 01:07:57 <benkay>	wild west i tell you
Mar 14 01:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	basically i can't shake this tom green image from my head.
Mar 14 01:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	you know what scene when he delivers a baby in the messiest way possible
Mar 14 01:08:13 <grubles>	theyre too busy polishing their shiny new avalon asics
Mar 14 01:08:17 <mircea_popescu>	and then proceeds to yammer that he "Saved the day"
Mar 14 01:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	and "they have a problem with heroes around here" ?
Mar 14 01:08:33 <grubles>	tom green was funny when i was in middle school
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Mar 14 01:08:55 <mircea_popescu>	grubles which is why he's so adequate in this discussion
Mar 14 01:08:56 <grubles>	except freddy got fingered
Mar 14 01:09:13 <LameCoin->	so its not possible there can be alternate development teams?
Mar 14 01:09:16 <LameCoin->	i dont understand
Mar 14 01:09:32 <benkay>	chorus: "go do it yourself!"
Mar 14 01:09:52 <grubles>	there can be alternates but they wont have the bitcoin mafia i mean foundation backing them
Mar 14 01:10:10 <LameCoin->	so it becomes a different protocol?
Mar 14 01:11:37 <LameCoin->	i dont get that part...
Mar 14 01:12:05 <grubles>	itll just be a fork
Mar 14 01:12:08 <grubles>	i think?
Mar 14 01:12:08 <benkay>	it's complicated
Mar 14 01:12:08 <benkay>	don't worry
Mar 14 01:12:17 <benkay>	51% controls things
Mar 14 01:12:23 <grubles>	people will either have to accept one client over another
Mar 14 01:12:26 <benkay>	this time the devs convinced the miners to do things their way.
Mar 14 01:12:38 <benkay>	this may not always be the case.
Mar 14 01:12:55 <LameCoin->	that really damages integrity...
Mar 14 01:12:59 <benkay>	especially when power begins to concentrate behind people who understand how open platforms are supposed to work
Mar 14 01:13:14 <LameCoin->	explain benkay
Mar 14 01:13:20 <benkay>	or people with lots of money
Mar 14 01:13:24 <mircea_popescu>	benkay moreover, especially as people with actual skin in the game start to emerge.
Mar 14 01:13:33 <mircea_popescu>	currently the miners are more in it for the bragging rights than for the money
Mar 14 01:13:39 <benkay>	not really
Mar 14 01:13:39 <benkay>	think cambrian explosion of bitcointech
Mar 14 01:13:41 <mircea_popescu>	this makes for a very dysfunctional lord of the flies environment
Mar 14 01:13:55 <LameCoin->	what do you mean bragging rights?
Mar 14 01:14:07 <benkay>	monoculture bad
Mar 14 01:14:09 <benkay>	say it with me
Mar 14 01:14:12 <benkay>	monoculture bad
Mar 14 01:14:13 <benkay>	fragile
Mar 14 01:14:33 <benkay>	centralized.
Mar 14 01:15:00 <LameCoin->	how are open platforms suppose to work?
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Mar 14 01:16:12 <benkay>	interoperability is typically important
Mar 14 01:16:51 <benkay>	but beyond my pay grade tbh
Mar 14 01:16:51 <benkay>	slash skill level
Mar 14 01:16:51 <benkay>	to comment on that.
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Mar 14 01:17:31 <benkay>	also it's *inevitable* that the chain fork and fuck some people eventually
Mar 14 01:17:40 <benkay>	people all want reward and no risk
Mar 14 01:17:54 <benkay>	best have good tech, homeboy
Mar 14 01:18:02 <benkay>	but it's cool for now
Mar 14 01:18:15 <benkay>	the people who appreciate well engineered things will quietly keep their shit regular
Mar 14 01:18:31 <benkay>	while the rest of the plebnet falls further and further behind
Mar 14 01:18:35 <benkay>	till one day
Mar 14 01:18:35 <benkay>	fork
Mar 14 01:18:45 <benkay>	recreational miners are fucked
Mar 14 01:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is actually a pretty bad future benkay
Mar 14 01:18:57 <LameCoin->	they were obsolete anyway
Mar 14 01:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	and one that is very probable if people stuck to the sort of nonsense evertyone's used to.
Mar 14 01:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	but i shall endeavour to break that.
Mar 14 01:19:23 <LameCoin->	benkay are you suggesting bitcoin will centralize?
Mar 14 01:20:17 <benkay>	no it's a possibility though
Mar 14 01:20:26 <benkay>	i think the system is multistable
Mar 14 01:20:40 <benkay>	mp wants to drive it to one place
Mar 14 01:21:03 <benkay>	devs don't have a vision
Mar 14 01:21:32 <LameCoin->	why do they need one? satoshi already laid the base
Mar 14 01:21:48 <LameCoin->	if they had a vision they would have come up with the concept themselves
Mar 14 01:22:55 <assbot>	 quest for vision is a great blessing.
Mar 14 01:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	i want to drive what where ?!
Mar 14 01:24:19 <corpsan>	benkay: lol plebnet
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Mar 14 01:36:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.005 = 0.75 BTC [-]
Mar 14 01:36:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 01:50:48 <kakobrekla>	http://i45.tinypic.com/21m5ky9.png
Mar 14 01:50:51 <kakobrekla>	are they so desperate?
Mar 14 01:52:03 <BingoBongo>	Wow, kakobrekla; I thought I was planning something stupid...
Mar 14 01:53:43 <BingoBongo>	Today in a moment of weakness I was tempted to register on the WOT and start cloning the late Intrade so I could supply idiots with the Bucketshop that they need
Mar 14 01:54:02 <kakobrekla>	what stopped you?
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Mar 14 01:54:33 <BingoBongo>	Whiskey Redbulls
Mar 14 01:54:46 <BingoBongo>	also trip to the East Side
Mar 14 01:55:00 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Mar 14 01:56:14 <BingoBongo>	I like brown sugar occasionaly.
Mar 14 01:56:57 <BingoBongo>	I'm just trying to figure out how little reserves a "prediction market" needs to really operate...
Mar 14 01:57:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 600 @ 0.05662037 = 33.9722 BTC [-]
Mar 14 01:57:48 <kakobrekla>	maybe mircea_popescu can enlighten you
Mar 14 01:58:04 <BingoBongo>	Maybe
Mar 14 01:58:16 <BingoBongo>	I've read his critique of Intrade
Mar 14 01:58:58 <BingoBongo>	Maybe I'm reading wrong which wouldn't be the first time, but it seems like a fair way to separate idiots from their coin.
Mar 14 01:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol weaksauce bfl.
Mar 14 01:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo if you hedge you won't need much.
Mar 14 01:59:15 <mircea_popescu>	if you don't hedge you'll go bankrupt.
Mar 14 02:00:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1408 @ 0.005 = 7.04 BTC [-]
Mar 14 02:02:42 <BingoBongo>	mircea_popescu I've done bankrupt in the legal liquidation sense before. Surprisingly pleasant.
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Mar 14 02:03:44 <BingoBongo>	If your trustee thinks you drink like a certain FPGA shilling Tom they just assume you'll end up in the Salvation Army shelter anyway
Mar 14 02:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you shouldn't operate a prediction market :p
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Mar 14 02:05:37 <BingoBongo>	Probably...
Mar 14 02:06:18 <BingoBongo>	I can only act so well
Mar 14 02:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 14 02:09:33 <BingoBongo>	I'll stick with practicing on established sites that maintain transparency like this http://bitbet.us/bet/302/bitcoin-standardized-protocol-approved-this-summer/
Mar 14 02:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how many people noticed that the girl's announcement ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.0 ) actually predates the devs' announcement ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152030.0 )
Mar 14 02:10:28 <BingoBongo>	>=1
Mar 14 02:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	for all the nuts ranting and raving about how inept she is in that thread...
Mar 14 02:13:04 <BingoBongo>	Really they need to kill BDB with fire. There is no other way. Gavin doesn't have a way to maintain BDB compatibility in LevelDB.
Mar 14 02:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	i don't grok the hate. what's the big deal ?
Mar 14 02:14:58 <BingoBongo>	BDB just doesn't play nicely with other databases.
Mar 14 02:15:06 <BingoBongo>	There's a lot of quirks.
Mar 14 02:15:25 <LameCoin->	why does it take hours to download the blockchain
Mar 14 02:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	okay... but i mean, it's old and stable, well tested, much deployed
Mar 14 02:15:35 <BingoBongo>	An analogy is how there is no good Postgre fork of WordPress
Mar 14 02:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	leveldb is just this google doohickey
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Mar 14 02:16:12 <BingoBongo>	it is just a Google doohickey, but it works better and the license is right
Mar 14 02:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	alrighty.
Mar 14 02:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	tho i think code conservatism may be more valuable. rather use something muchly used than something faster, if those are the only two data points.
Mar 14 02:18:07 <BingoBongo>	The problem isn't faster the problem is scalability. SatoshiDice for all I defended it against, with BDB's locking  bahavior killed BDB as a bitcoin dependency
Mar 14 02:18:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Mar 14 02:18:32 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 16 seconds
Mar 14 02:18:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 14 02:18:38 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225769 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 22 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 hours, 20 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4829378.08809 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.56582
Mar 14 02:18:42 <BingoBongo>	;;asks 1000
Mar 14 02:18:53 <gribble>	There are currently 95281.952 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 10346802.3062 USD in total. | Data vintage: 707.1424 seconds
Mar 14 02:19:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 14 02:19:22 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 14 02:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	possibly so.
Mar 14 02:19:29 <BingoBongo>	;; asks 5
Mar 14 02:19:38 <mircea_popescu>	i confess to having little clue.
Mar 14 02:19:40 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 5.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 753.6468 seconds
Mar 14 02:19:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 50
Mar 14 02:19:56 <gribble>	There are currently 28952.846 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 1417409.54359 USD in total. | Data vintage: 769.2750 seconds
Mar 14 02:20:01 <BingoBongo>	;;bids 5
Mar 14 02:20:12 <gribble>	There are currently 264838.33 bitcoins demanded at or over 5.0 USD, worth 6269951.46228 USD in total. | Data vintage: 785.5630 seconds
Mar 14 02:22:07 <LameCoin->	;;market sell 350000
Mar 14 02:22:19 <gribble>	A market order to sell 350000 bitcoins right now would net 6509777.9570 USD and would take the last price down to 1.2000 USD, resulting in an average price of 18.5994 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 912.4385 seconds
Mar 14 02:22:36 <LameCoin->	shows the true liquidity problem of bitcoin
Mar 14 02:22:50 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 14 02:22:56 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 14 02:22:59 <kakobrekla>	tyvm
Mar 14 02:24:04 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 14 02:24:06 <kakobrekla>	;;market sell 350000
Mar 14 02:24:10 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 14 02:24:17 <gribble>	A market order to sell 350000 bitcoins right now would net 6509777.9570 USD and would take the last price down to 1.2000 USD, resulting in an average price of 18.5994 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 1030.6224 seconds
Mar 14 02:24:24 <kakobrekla>	trading engine is down
Mar 14 02:24:29 <kakobrekla>	or smth
Mar 14 02:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	mine !?
Mar 14 02:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	nm
Mar 14 02:24:59 <kakobrekla>	coincidentally im just writing a short report aroud that.
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Mar 14 02:34:04 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 14 02:37:42 <kakobrekla>	oh gribble went
Mar 14 02:37:53 <kakobrekla>	and im like wtf im ignored?
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Mar 14 02:38:08 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 14 02:38:27 <gribble>	0.219788 seconds
Mar 14 02:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 14 02:49:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [+]
Mar 14 02:52:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-many-ways-available-for-talking-to-mpex/
Mar 14 02:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	the latest word in "being an asshole"
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Mar 14 02:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/beppe-grillo-northern-europe-waiting-to-drop-italy-like-a-hot-potato-8533213.html
Mar 14 02:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	future italian president ?
Mar 14 02:57:56 <kakobrekla>	uhh?
Mar 14 02:58:01 <kakobrekla>	do i need to short eurusd?
Mar 14 02:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 14 02:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	both ways.
Mar 14 02:58:22 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 14 02:58:47 <BitHub>	what was wrong with that italian president that has cex with a hooker?
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Mar 14 02:58:57 <BitHub>	win?
Mar 14 02:59:00 <mircea_popescu>	that she was underage and stupid
Mar 14 02:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	and he was over 70 and kinda sleazy
Mar 14 02:59:20 <BitHub>	17 at the time?
Mar 14 02:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, if you factor her mental age into this equation...
Mar 14 02:59:33 <BitHub>	ruby
Mar 14 02:59:45 <BitHub>	heh what a psycho
Mar 14 02:59:53 <BitHub>	i liked how he rigged the recent election
Mar 14 02:59:56 <BitHub>	noone says shit
Mar 14 02:59:57 <BitHub>	heh
Mar 14 03:05:41 <LameCoin->	beppe is an idiot
Mar 14 03:06:37 <LameCoin->	most italians know the euro is still superior to the lira
Mar 14 03:07:15 <BingoBongo>	Hey, the Lira is still cheaper than quilted Northern
Mar 14 03:07:24 <Ukto>	wb BitHub :P
Mar 14 03:08:05 <BitHub>	yeah been back for an hour, caught up in cleaning, trolling, hows the testing going?
Mar 14 03:08:13 <BitHub>	busted me
Mar 14 03:08:15 <Ukto>	hehe
Mar 14 03:08:21 <Ukto>	other channel. :)
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Mar 14 03:10:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 03:38:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 750 @ 0.0419584 = 31.4688 BTC [-]
Mar 14 03:40:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/12/business/facebook-secrets/index.html
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Mar 14 03:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	Less than 5 per cent of users predicted to be gay, for example, were connected with explicitly gay groups.
Mar 14 03:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	there is nowai to hide it now!
Mar 14 03:42:31 *	BitHub hides in mircea's ass (no homo)
Mar 14 03:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 14 03:44:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/5492/20130311/third-closest-neighbouring-star-system-found-6-lightyears-away.htm
Mar 14 03:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	check out this guy!
Mar 14 03:45:08 <mircea_popescu>	scans old archives, finds star system
Mar 14 03:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	true hacker.
Mar 14 03:46:50 <BitHub>	you better have been luling at me then
Mar 14 03:46:58 <BitHub>	that was a good one
Mar 14 03:47:03 *	BingoBongo starts vanitygen for Firstbits 1LvCunt (emphasizing no homo, because of course)
Mar 14 03:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/5410/20130306/graphene-antennas-reach-terabits-wireless-bandwidth.htm
Mar 14 03:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	also!
Mar 14 03:51:48 <BingoBongo>	Depending on how sloppy BBet wants to get http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/299176/scitech/science/cern-scientists-say-particle-is-no-super-higgs could resolve http://bitbet.us/bet/8/higgs-boson-support/ for certain definitions of both resolved and sloppy
Mar 14 03:53:11 <BingoBongo>	For a Dupe because the first link was crap http://news.yahoo.com/cern-scientists-particle-no-super-higgs-212306008.html
Mar 14 03:53:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol at the first of spring
Mar 14 03:54:03 <BingoBongo>	Sure
Mar 14 03:56:09 <BingoBongo>	It all depends on BBet's definition of publication and the amount of juices BBet has running down there desiring a won house bet.
Mar 14 03:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	house bets both ends tho
Mar 14 03:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, the bet reads that support will be published. nonsuport being published isn't related is it.
Mar 14 03:57:52 <BingoBongo>	Ah, so the house proposed that one...
Mar 14 03:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo no ?
Mar 14 03:58:08 <BingoBongo>	Ah
Mar 14 03:59:18 <mircea_popescu>	o hey check it out, twitter
Mar 14 04:00:44 <BingoBongo>	Cool
Mar 14 04:01:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.2 = 2 BTC [+]
Mar 14 04:01:43 <BingoBongo>	Just think the first graphene took some scotch tape and a #2 pencil
Mar 14 04:02:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 200 @ 0.05561259 = 11.1225 BTC [-]
Mar 14 04:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-del/
Mar 14 04:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	by now it's like 8:1 for
Mar 14 04:05:36 <BingoBongo>	Isn't Avalon still struggling to get a fraction of the first batch out/
Mar 14 04:06:20 <BingoBongo>	It seems units shipped rather than units blown up is still going to be the deciding factor at the wire
Mar 14 04:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	hey kakobrekla some way to link to comments specifically ?
Mar 14 04:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ << that last one lol
Mar 14 04:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo whodda thunk that right ?
Mar 14 04:06:59 <kakobrekla>	click on the username
Mar 14 04:07:03 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/#c351
Mar 14 04:07:49 <Anduck>	wtf!!!
Mar 14 04:07:58 <Anduck>	why didnt the "before march" bet get any bets :(
Mar 14 04:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	a ty!
Mar 14 04:08:02 <Anduck>	well, it did get like 20 btc
Mar 14 04:08:03 <BingoBongo>	lol, BFL through recklessness might make it this time though
Mar 14 04:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck you kidding ? was like 2k
Mar 14 04:08:14 <Anduck>	i mean
Mar 14 04:08:17 <Anduck>	the before march 15th
Mar 14 04:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	o
Mar 14 04:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	dunno
Mar 14 04:08:28 <kakobrekla>	too easy
Mar 14 04:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	prolly too close ya
Mar 14 04:08:35 <Anduck>	http://bitbet.us/bet/261/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-15th/
Mar 14 04:08:36 <Anduck>	this
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Mar 14 04:08:37 <Anduck>	yep
Mar 14 04:08:46 <Bowjob>	looks like btc-e is down
Mar 14 04:08:52 <kakobrekla>	they annouced 9th
Mar 14 04:09:00 <kakobrekla>	so 15th was clear win
Mar 14 04:09:18 <BingoBongo>	March 15th was too imaginably close. The 31st though is an inconceivable neverland of miracles.
Mar 14 04:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	whoa they eleced a jesuit as pope ?!
Mar 14 04:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	this is the end of the world.
Mar 14 04:09:28 <BingoBongo>	Yes they did
Mar 14 04:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo well put.
Mar 14 04:09:55 <BingoBongo>	They elected a Jesuit, so they boy touching is never going away
Mar 14 04:10:08 <mircea_popescu>	'Fruitful mission'
Mar 14 04:10:11 <Anduck>	soo close the 15th march bet alrdy? =D
Mar 14 04:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	we'll ahve the first impregnated altar boy ?
Mar 14 04:10:19 <Anduck>	"Resolution: in 15 hours 51 minutes (15-03-2013)"
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Mar 14 04:11:26 <BingoBongo>	Maybe?...
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Mar 14 04:11:38 <BingoBongo>	If this channel wan't logged
Mar 14 04:14:43 <BingoBongo>	I think BFL might ship something, but probably miss the target
Mar 14 04:14:50 <Bowjob>	fans
Mar 14 04:14:51 <BingoBongo>	What they ship I don't know
Mar 14 04:14:55 <Bowjob>	box of
Mar 14 04:15:03 <Bowjob>	meanwhile.. btc-e is down
Mar 14 04:15:12 <BingoBongo>	btc-e is crap
Mar 14 04:15:59 <BingoBongo>	If it isn't NVC and trades on Btc-e it trades on Vircurex with greater market making opportunities
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Mar 14 04:19:37 <BingoBongo>	BTC-E has more volume than Vircurex, but but Vircurex has so many opportunities to trap idiots by using thin Bid/Ask walls. If bitcoin is play money what are these altcoins...
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Mar 14 04:29:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 520 @ 0.005 = 2.6 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 04:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	smickles : if you want some easy btc http://www.rugatu.com/questions/11218/there-is-exactly-one-article-on-trilema-featuring-the-picture-of-a-cat-find-it
Mar 14 04:45:27 <BingoBongo>	Already first hit on Google for "trilema blog cat"
Mar 14 04:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	haha nice
Mar 14 04:47:56 <kakobrekla>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-february-2013-statement/
Mar 14 04:48:05 <kakobrekla>	?
Mar 14 04:49:37 <mircea_popescu>	awww!
Mar 14 04:50:25 <kakobrekla>	or that counts as a dragon? :)
Mar 14 04:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 14 04:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	cause there's another one :D
Mar 14 04:50:49 <kakobrekla>	well scam.
Mar 14 04:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.55 = 1.65 BTC [-]
Mar 14 04:53:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 14 04:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.54900001 BTC [-]
Mar 14 04:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.549 = 13.725 BTC [-]
Mar 14 05:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla http://www.rugatu.com/questions/11221/there-is-exactly-another-one-article-on-trilema-featuring-the-picture-of-a-cat-find-that-one-too
Mar 14 05:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	in yo face foo!
Mar 14 05:03:28 <grubles>	the 'cat' a euphemism for the female body part?
Mar 14 05:03:35 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Mar 14 05:03:38 <grubles>	if so there is probably more than one post
Mar 14 05:03:41 <kakobrekla>	you deleted the answer or what
Mar 14 05:03:48 <kakobrekla>	i couldnt find the button
Mar 14 05:03:49 <grubles>	er is 'cat'*
Mar 14 05:03:56 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 14 05:04:34 <mircea_popescu>	grubles nope
Mar 14 05:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla its a diff q
Mar 14 05:04:56 <kakobrekla>	ah
Mar 14 05:04:57 <kakobrekla>	right
Mar 14 05:05:01 <kakobrekla>	i see.
Mar 14 05:05:04 <grubles>	mircea_popescu: lies
Mar 14 05:05:07 <mircea_popescu>	and yes there's approximately speaking between 5490680 and 59804586 cunts on tyrilema
Mar 14 05:05:25 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 14 05:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	and also i'm having clam chowder soon
Mar 14 05:05:44 <grubles>	mircea_popescu: the red or the white?
Mar 14 05:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	white
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Mar 14 05:06:30 <grubles>	do...do you get that reference or are you the only romanian that has watched ace ventura
Mar 14 05:06:35 <kakobrekla>	cause of the pope?
Mar 14 05:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	im takin' that one to my grave.
Mar 14 05:07:45 <grubles>	nooooooooooooooo!!!one
Mar 14 05:08:12 <BingoBongo>	kakobrakla your bounty on Rugatu is redeemable now
Mar 14 05:08:35 <kakobrekla>	my balance is 0
Mar 14 05:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	scam
Mar 14 05:09:11 <kakobrekla>	yep
Mar 14 05:10:16 <kakobrekla>	for real wtf
Mar 14 05:10:36 <kakobrekla>	shoudlnt this be instant?
Mar 14 05:11:29 <BingoBongo>	Ah, needs to move from pending to approved. SHould be available in 2 hours, probably...
Mar 14 05:11:37 <BingoBongo>	It should be...
Mar 14 05:11:42 <BingoBongo>	Instant...
Mar 14 05:11:46 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 14 05:11:53 <grubles>	i feel like your nick should be bingoboingo
Mar 14 05:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla is getting ideas for bitbet
Mar 14 05:12:14 <BingoBongo>	He should be...
Mar 14 05:12:23 <kakobrekla>	i am?
Mar 14 05:12:28 <BingoBongo>	Srsly...
Mar 14 05:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	yes, how to make it more like suck
Mar 14 05:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136325237356.gif
Mar 14 05:14:06 <grubles>	dat slap
Mar 14 05:16:31 <kakobrekla>	is not bad.
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Mar 14 05:30:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769998 BTC [+]
Mar 14 05:32:48 <BingoBongo>	Does this count for the second scavenger hunt http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/retete-de-criza-astazi-pisica/
Mar 14 05:35:31 <kakobrekla>	id say you hit the motherload.
Mar 14 05:35:49 <kakobrekla>	imma gonna have to translate it
Mar 14 05:37:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.00999 = 0.999 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 05:39:15 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	Send me around the world on bitcoins only so I can document it and make a movie
Mar 14 05:40:02 <BingoBongo>	wh1t3r4bb1t where are you starting from?
Mar 14 05:40:15 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	Antarctica
Mar 14 05:41:11 <BingoBongo>	I'm afraid your best bet is to spin around in a circle... I'm afarid the price to drag my Saturn down there is a bit too steep...
Mar 14 05:41:24 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	I will zig zag around the world proving that you do not need anything but bitcoin to survive.
Mar 14 05:41:58 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	No saturn
Mar 14 05:42:17 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	Only boats trains and planes
Mar 14 05:42:24 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	no cars
Mar 14 05:42:27 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	or trucks
Mar 14 05:42:49 <wh1t3r4bb1t>	maybe a bicycle here and there
Mar 14 05:43:34 <Anduck>	selling asicminer @ 0.78
Mar 14 05:45:30 <BingoBongo>	wh1t3r4bb1t It seems you underestimate the ability my plastic Saturn L-series sedan has shown to swim in the past...
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Mar 14 05:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBongo nah, actually that's rabbit
Mar 14 05:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	(3rd commenter even identifies it correctly)
Mar 14 06:01:08 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Mar 14 06:01:12 <kakobrekla>	it translates cat
Mar 14 06:01:14 <kakobrekla>	i think
Mar 14 06:01:23 <kakobrekla>	strange.
Mar 14 06:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	yes, the point of the article is "here's how you cook cat"
Mar 14 06:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	but it's really rabbit.
Mar 14 06:01:36 <kakobrekla>	a
Mar 14 06:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	pisica = cat ; iepure = rabbit
Mar 14 06:02:08 <kakobrekla>	rabbit meat is kinda borring to me
Mar 14 06:02:15 <kakobrekla>	but its healthy or smth
Mar 14 06:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	just low fat.
Mar 14 06:03:07 <kakobrekla>	horse ftw.
Mar 14 06:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	indeed
Mar 14 06:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	all these doods with the kobe bs never had decent mare.
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Mar 14 06:04:44 <kakobrekla>	:)
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Mar 14 06:14:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.769998 = 7.7 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 06:43:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7351 BTC [-]
Mar 14 06:43:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.735 = 5.88 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 07:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 750 @ 0.07093982 = 53.2049 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 07:07:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
Mar 14 07:10:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 07:19:42 <turbo_ac100>	Hi there
Mar 14 07:20:33 <turbo_ac100>	I just came here to say thank you. Some time ago I asked for an RSS-feed on bitbet and just now realised that it's there now.
Mar 14 07:20:39 <turbo_ac100>	So thanks a lot :D
Mar 14 07:21:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.00999 = 0.0699 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 07:38:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 456 @ 0.005 = 2.28 BTC [-]
Mar 14 07:50:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5175 @ 0.00072614 = 3.7578 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 08:12:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5888 @ 0.00072614 = 4.2755 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 08:36:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5912 @ 0.00072545 = 4.2889 BTC [-]
Mar 14 08:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00072544 = 0.7254 BTC [-]
Mar 14 08:36:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4505 @ 0.00072543 = 3.2681 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 09:05:03 <ThickAsThieves>	apparently there's a LTC silk road option now http://atlantisrky4es5q.onion
Mar 14 09:06:17 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Mar 14 09:06:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.64004, Best ask: 47.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24996, Last trade: 47.64001, 24 hour volume: 47440.50661962, 24 hour low: 46.20010, 24 hour high: 47.99000, 24 hour vwap: 47.14577
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Mar 14 09:10:35 <ThickAsThieves>	isn't there a channel that only shows asset trades?
Mar 14 09:11:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.769996 = 4.62 BTC [+]
Mar 14 09:12:38 <pigeons>	ThickAsThieves: #bitcoin-assets-trades
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Mar 14 09:21:31 <ThickAsThieves>	thx!
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Mar 14 09:40:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.769996 = 3.08 BTC [+]
Mar 14 09:40:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.769996 = 4.62 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 09:40:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.769997 = 7.7 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 09:45:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.19 = 0.38 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 10:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5477 BTC [-]
Mar 14 10:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.545 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 10:05:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.54 = 2.16 BTC [-]
Mar 14 10:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.54 = 2.7 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 10:27:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 14 10:28:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 50 @ 0.2 = 10 BTC [+]
Mar 14 10:36:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 11:09:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 14 11:09:31 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 5839524.39419 based on data since last change | 4974842.68553 based on data for last three days
Mar 14 11:10:25 <ThickAsThieves>	thats odd
Mar 14 11:10:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 14 11:10:31 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 225837 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1970 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 5839524.39419 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.461
Mar 14 11:11:09 <ThickAsThieves>	oh we changed diffs
Mar 14 11:11:10 <ThickAsThieves>	duh
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Mar 14 11:41:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.769998 = 3.08 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 11:54:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 181 @ 0.00068 = 0.1231 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 12:01:43 *	jurov is domain squatting around a bit
Mar 14 12:01:59 <jurov>	am considering mpex.xxx , what do you think?
Mar 14 12:03:18 <jurov>	it will feature random image from /dtng/
Mar 14 12:03:34 <jborkl>	I like it, trade conf returned from mpex.xxx will include a random image
Mar 14 12:04:32 <jurov>	77 euro/year, a bit costly joke
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Mar 14 12:04:59 <jurov>	i'll stay content with my newfangled btc.yt TLD
Mar 14 12:05:25 <jborkl>	why is it so much are .xxx more
Mar 14 12:05:33 <jborkl>	?
Mar 14 12:05:35 <jurov>	yes, the bitches are expensive
Mar 14 12:06:02 <jborkl>	ah, i never looked up a xxx domain to buy
Mar 14 12:09:30 <jurov>	lol mpex.ro is available, too
Mar 14 12:09:52 <jurov>	mircea's no patriot
Mar 14 12:10:18 <jurov>	i'll register and give it freely to eskimobob
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Mar 14 12:14:24 <wontdrinkitself>	Greetings.
Mar 14 12:14:41 <jurov>	Have a nice day. How do you do?
Mar 14 12:14:55 <wontdrinkitself>	Yes, I had a nice day. And I'm fine, thank you.
Mar 14 12:15:00 <wontdrinkitself>	how do you do Jurov?
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Mar 14 12:15:15 <jurov>	Fine, thanks for asking.
Mar 14 12:15:21 <wontdrinkitself>	np.
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Mar 14 12:15:30 <wontdrinkitself>	I'm curious on Bitcoin
Mar 14 12:15:40 <wontdrinkitself>	and related infrastructure.
Mar 14 12:15:49 <wontdrinkitself>	What is the standard/
Mar 14 12:15:50 <wontdrinkitself>	?
Mar 14 12:15:58 <wontdrinkitself>	Who and How will make it the standard?
Mar 14 12:16:11 <wontdrinkitself>	I think I may speak for a few people..
Mar 14 12:16:38 <jurov>	what standard?
Mar 14 12:16:45 <wontdrinkitself>	Generally speaking, worldwide - it's nice to use a 'bank' for the purposes of actually increasing a participants funds..etc.
Mar 14 12:16:46 <wontdrinkitself>	dunno.
Mar 14 12:16:50 <Korbman>	well..color me confused by those questions haha
Mar 14 12:17:01 <wontdrinkitself>	heya Korbman
Mar 14 12:17:24 <wontdrinkitself>	There should be more people.
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Mar 14 12:17:48 <wontdrinkitself>	my 2 cents..
Mar 14 12:17:52 <wontdrinkitself>	hit the big players..
Mar 14 12:17:54 <wontdrinkitself>	:)
Mar 14 12:18:07 <wontdrinkitself>	talk to bezos
Mar 14 12:18:12 <jurov>	yeaq, hit'em straight to balls
Mar 14 12:18:26 <wontdrinkitself>	say 'look maaaan'' I realize Amazon has this, but Bitcoin has that! :P
Mar 14 12:18:37 <wontdrinkitself>	well, leave that up to the 'marketing wiz' ..
Mar 14 12:18:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [-]
Mar 14 12:18:56 <wontdrinkitself>	But, recently have read about Bitcoin.
Mar 14 12:19:06 <wontdrinkitself>	And there are other schemes and such
Mar 14 12:19:20 <wontdrinkitself>	And well, it should be at least sine wave like.
Mar 14 12:19:29 <ThickAsThieves>	there's a lot of good info out there
Mar 14 12:19:34 <wontdrinkitself>	My place I cannot order a 'pizza' with Bitcoin.
Mar 14 12:19:42 <ThickAsThieves>	it will take you week or so to do your research
Mar 14 12:19:43 <wontdrinkitself>	but, if I could...I would! :)
Mar 14 12:19:58 <wontdrinkitself>	even the 'credit card' charges, I'd be willing to accept.
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Mar 14 12:20:55 <wontdrinkitself>	21 million only.
Mar 14 12:21:03 <wontdrinkitself>	no miner here...
Mar 14 12:21:09 <wontdrinkitself>	but, support it.
Mar 14 12:21:25 <wontdrinkitself>	or, at least - the CERTAINTY of it.
Mar 14 12:21:26 <wontdrinkitself>	:)
Mar 14 12:21:31 <jcpham>	derp
Mar 14 12:21:53 <wontdrinkitself>	herpy derp?
Mar 14 12:21:56 <wontdrinkitself>	c'mon now jcp.
Mar 14 12:22:16 <jcpham>	are you seriously in the UAE or is that a proxy
Mar 14 12:22:21 <jurov>	wontdrinkitself: it really reads like you're slightly drunk
Mar 14 12:22:35 <wontdrinkitself>	derp ya later..Classic rock here in MI and gottatt run
Mar 14 12:22:45 <wontdrinkitself>	Ciao
Mar 14 12:22:46 <jcpham>	facepalm
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Mar 14 12:23:16 <jcpham>	wtf was that
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Mar 14 12:23:44 <jurov>	*giggles incontrollably*
Mar 14 12:26:36 <Korbman>	really really random
Mar 14 12:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.565 = 1.695 BTC [+]
Mar 14 12:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 12:48:16 <deadweasel>	what's with the dumping?  i think it drank itself
Mar 14 12:48:28 <deadweasel>	oops, two different statements
Mar 14 12:48:38 <deadweasel>	one's actually a question
Mar 14 12:48:45 <deadweasel>	jesus, i'm sounding like wontdrinkitself
Mar 14 12:48:59 <ThickAsThieves>	what got dumped?
Mar 14 12:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.8 = 7.2 BTC [-]
Mar 14 12:49:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8 BTC [-]
Mar 14 12:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.57 = 1.14 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 12:56:03 <smickles>	lol, footnotes with footnotes
Mar 14 12:56:31 <smickles>	oh no, he linked to my github
Mar 14 12:56:34 <smickles>	-_-
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Mar 14 12:59:33 <smickles>	guys, just remember, the stuff on my github is old a crappy
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Mar 14 13:05:57 <deadweasel>	ThickAsThieves: just me misinterpreting regular price fluctuation in btc
Mar 14 13:06:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.0054 = 1.62 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 13:08:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.769998 = 3.85 BTC [+]
Mar 14 13:08:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.769999 = 3.08 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 13:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bingobongo hey,  SalvorHardin and  Philip both win. mark the first guy  as winner and tell the other to get in touch here.
Mar 14 13:09:39 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 14 13:10:15 <mircea_popescu>	and omg wtf apparently trilema is fulla cats.
Mar 14 13:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	i had no idea.
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Mar 14 13:13:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.005199 = 0.052 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 13:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	so in the end is bitfunder streaming quotes or not rly ?
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Mar 14 13:26:36 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the internet is full of cats
Mar 14 13:26:47 <smickles>	and trilema is a subset of the internet
Mar 14 13:26:52 <smickles>	logic
Mar 14 13:27:22 <mircea_popescu>	ya but girls are full of cooties, guys are a subset of hm
Mar 14 13:27:29 <ThickAsThieves>	BF is doing websockets
Mar 14 13:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	i know there's something wrong with your logic but unsure what exactly
Mar 14 13:27:39 <ThickAsThieves>	so someone just has to grab them
Mar 14 13:27:47 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it's an informal fallacy
Mar 14 13:27:55 <smickles>	general -> specific
Mar 14 13:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	also cooties
Mar 14 13:29:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 200 @ 0.00999 = 1.998 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 13:53:05 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i'm testing my sales system now, since i've decided to release what I have now as a 'beta' at half price.
Mar 14 13:53:12 <smickles>	re: the gui app
Mar 14 13:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Mar 14 13:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	(also, you might consider making use of the ref system)
Mar 14 13:53:40 <smickles>	I haven't put thought into how that would work yet
Mar 14 13:53:46 <smickles>	but i do like the idea
Mar 14 13:54:08 <smickles>	;;tslb
Mar 14 13:54:10 <gribble>	Time since last block: 12 minutes and 5 seconds
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Mar 14 14:05:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.737 BTC [-]
Mar 14 14:05:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.736 BTC [-]
Mar 14 14:05:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.735 BTC [-]
Mar 14 14:06:19 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu its not (yet?).
Mar 14 14:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	ah k
Mar 14 14:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was coming together yest. my bad.
Mar 14 14:07:52 <kakobrekla>	i did go about half way yea
Mar 14 14:08:07 <kakobrekla>	nature is amazing.
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Mar 14 14:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	!amaze nature
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Mar 14 14:18:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Mar 14 14:18:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.39839 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 14:23:35 <kakobrekla>	so, the first thing that any serious crypto currency needs/makes https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153106.msg1624962;topicseen#msg1624962
Mar 14 14:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,diff
Mar 14 14:24:35 <gribble>	4847647.1520656
Mar 14 14:24:38 <kakobrekla>	"gettin high on your CPU power"
Mar 14 14:25:03 <kakobrekla>	ah sry
Mar 14 14:25:10 <kakobrekla>	litecoin is now mined with gpus
Mar 14 14:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	today's installment of "evil" mp : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/of-men-and-mice/
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Mar 14 14:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,estimate
Mar 14 14:34:26 <gribble>	6068019.81599933
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Mar 14 14:36:45 <dub>	jebus
Mar 14 14:36:53 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 14 14:36:53 <gribble>	35978.971550544906
Mar 14 14:38:25 <mircea_popescu>	the unknowns.
Mar 14 14:38:28 <mircea_popescu>	asicminer is taking over
Mar 14 14:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	watch luke & idiotco learn chinese to better explain why everyone should care about their pasty-ass preconceptions.
Mar 14 14:39:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.182 BTC [-]
Mar 14 14:39:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-]
Mar 14 14:39:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.16 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Mar 14 14:39:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.152 BTC [-]
Mar 14 14:39:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.1502 = 1.3518 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 14:41:26 <dub>	well apaprently lluke has 5th of asic on his pool
Mar 14 14:41:41 <dub>	and that better not be asicminer
Mar 14 14:41:57 <kakobrekla>	jesus
Mar 14 14:41:57 <kakobrekla>	http://www.rugatu.com/questions/11266/php-array-to-string-conversion?page=1&focusedAnswerId=11270#11270
Mar 14 14:42:01 <kakobrekla>	these coders.
Mar 14 14:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	lolz
Mar 14 14:42:22 <Namworld>	ASICMINER will need to get a better chip out soon after these first batches tho
Mar 14 14:42:46 <dub>	pretty sure that was the plan
Mar 14 14:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	actually i got confused, i meant avalon.
Mar 14 14:43:11 <dub>	shrinking the process is not as hard as starting over
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Mar 14 14:43:49 <Namworld>	yeah
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Mar 14 14:46:36 <ThickAsThieves>	mp your article is kinda depressing. i think you might underestimate how many people feel like they are the only ones that see The Right Way, and separately that you could just as easily not be Right at all (life is tricky that way). You seem to care (be bothered by) so much about people that you feel are worth so little.
Mar 14 14:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	ha!
Mar 14 14:56:20 <mircea_popescu>	so how do you distinguish ?
Mar 14 14:56:56 <ThickAsThieves>	who is Right, you mean?
Mar 14 14:57:04 <ThickAsThieves>	only oneself I guess
Mar 14 14:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	a not at all.
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Mar 14 14:57:20 <mircea_popescu>	how do you distinguish between the case where you're right and the case where you're wrong
Mar 14 14:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	obviously this isn't a vestable attribute, like "being tall"
Mar 14 14:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	it's a case by case thing
Mar 14 14:57:44 <ThickAsThieves>	or a nonexistent thing
Mar 14 14:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	well, if you're going the route of relativism might as well forget about action at all
Mar 14 14:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	and focus on the senses.
Mar 14 14:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	hedonism ftw.
Mar 14 14:58:42 <ThickAsThieves>	i think human nature includes wanting everyone to be more like what you want
Mar 14 14:58:59 <ThickAsThieves>	some people handle that by just copying others to be more like the group
Mar 14 14:59:10 <ThickAsThieves>	some try to influence others
Mar 14 14:59:15 <ThickAsThieves>	to be more like them
Mar 14 14:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	but you are aware that life selects, right ?
Mar 14 14:59:36 <mircea_popescu>	evolution forces species to be more like "right", for a natural definition of that term.
Mar 14 14:59:55 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm gonna be careful cuz i'm, not quite the level of philospher/anthropologist you are
Mar 14 15:00:04 <mircea_popescu>	me either.
Mar 14 15:00:08 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 14 15:00:36 <ThickAsThieves>	but ultimately what's right, it seems, is that which keeps us most adaptable as a species
Mar 14 15:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	that's one theory.
Mar 14 15:01:10 <ThickAsThieves>	possibly comes from an expiring stage of our species
Mar 14 15:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	understand, i'm not saying there's anything wrong with the "what keeps me out of pain is right" approach in general.
Mar 14 15:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	im just saying it's woefully inadequate in anything to do with money, or more generally value
Mar 14 15:01:48 <ThickAsThieves>	money is the currency of life/time
Mar 14 15:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	yeah something like that.
Mar 14 15:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	i wrote a piece long ago, in romanian,
Mar 14 15:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	basically my theory is that the sensate world is underpinned by two essences
Mar 14 15:02:22 <mircea_popescu>	one is language, the other is money.
Mar 14 15:02:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess you just seem extra soapboxy lately
Mar 14 15:02:40 <ThickAsThieves>	and if i were a psychiatrist i'm sure i'd be able to figure out why
Mar 14 15:02:47 <mircea_popescu>	haha so find one
Mar 14 15:03:06 <ThickAsThieves>	one theory i have is intelligence is a burden
Mar 14 15:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	heh. do you live in the us ?
Mar 14 15:03:22 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 14 15:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	you know... we've seen this before.
Mar 14 15:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	all of it.
Mar 14 15:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	well... you wouldn't know cause you don't read russian, but it's not new.
Mar 14 15:03:55 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm no Einstein, but I al constantly disappointed in people
Mar 14 15:03:58 <ThickAsThieves>	al=am
Mar 14 15:04:00 <mircea_popescu>	1970s, the soviets were going "great", thinking people were starting to suspect intelligence is a burden.
Mar 14 15:04:11 <ThickAsThieves>	and i had to kind of find a zen place to balance it all
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Mar 14 15:05:01 <deadweasel>	me too, ThickAsThieves
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Mar 14 15:05:07 <ThickAsThieves>	i, like most of here us probly, seek out control of our environment
Mar 14 15:05:16 <ThickAsThieves>	since we cant change people
Mar 14 15:05:23 <ThickAsThieves>	we just dont associate with them
Mar 14 15:05:27 <ThickAsThieves>	irl at least
Mar 14 15:05:36 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1624754#msg1624754
Mar 14 15:05:49 <deadweasel>	tried that route, it's a hard road
Mar 14 15:05:56 <dub>	I know mrb isnt an idiot, so can someone explain to me why AMs costs go up if BTC/USD does?
Mar 14 15:06:28 <ThickAsThieves>	if costs go up, costs go up
Mar 14 15:06:31 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 14 15:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	dub i don't see why it would be related.
Mar 14 15:07:35 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth.php looks stale
Mar 14 15:08:00 <dub>	ah nm, I think he's arguing against someone who thought the increasing BTC/USD was a good reason to buy AM at these prices
Mar 14 15:08:09 <jurov>	as certain diligent coinbr user spotted
Mar 14 15:08:12 <mircea_popescu>	jurov any particular spot ?
Mar 14 15:08:43 <jurov>	S.DICE has much different order book data than on asset page
Mar 14 15:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	looking.
Mar 14 15:09:55 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, is there anywhere i can read about this russian intellgence as a burden stuff?
Mar 14 15:12:42 <deadweasel>	http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/For-40-Years-This-Russian-Family-Was-Cut-Off-From-Human-Contact-Unaware-of-World-War-II-188843001.html
Mar 14 15:12:46 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/14/us_malware_catalogue_hacked/   The US government's online catalog of cyber-vulnerabilities has been taken offline – ironically, due to a software vulnerability.
Mar 14 15:12:52 <deadweasel>	Clearly they didn't like atheism.
Mar 14 15:12:56 <deadweasel>	so that's a pointer
Mar 14 15:12:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i saw that one dw
Mar 14 15:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i just went through s.dice, failed to see a difference ?
Mar 14 15:13:06 <ThickAsThieves>	interesting read it was
Mar 14 15:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	the jsons are not sorted, could  that give the impression the book is different ?
Mar 14 15:14:27 <deadweasel>	no doubt.  imagine that -- running for your lives into siberia.
Mar 14 15:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	jurov oh i see the problem. the cache's sick.
Mar 14 15:16:22 <dub>	deadweasel: eeeevillldooooeeerssss
Mar 14 15:16:42 <smickles>	dammit!
Mar 14 15:16:59 <smickles>	all of the sudden there is an issue with the underlying toolkit i'm using
Mar 14 15:17:04 <smickles>	D:
Mar 14 15:17:25 *	jurov hands mircea cache pill, with clock buffers
Mar 14 15:17:26 <deadweasel>	fuckles
Mar 14 15:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 14 15:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	jurov check now!
Mar 14 15:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i'm not sure there's a better source of all soviet woes in englush than stoljenitsn
Mar 14 15:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	or however his name is written in english
Mar 14 15:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	Solzhenitsyn heh
Mar 14 15:30:35 <jurov>	mircea yes now it's fresh :)
Mar 14 15:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	say ty to dilligent user for me :)
Mar 14 15:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	and for the record, i'm adding safeties to not have stale cache again. this one managed to get away!
Mar 14 15:33:34 <deadweasel>	/home/dxaccess-qa/dxaccess/bin/start-results-migration.sh
Mar 14 15:33:45 <deadweasel>	crap, this is not a terminal
Mar 14 15:34:11 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Mar 14 15:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel : simple rule. have all terminals white on black. have all non-terminals black on white. problem solved.
Mar 14 15:38:59 <deadweasel>	yeah, simple rules don't fix things for idiots.
Mar 14 15:39:05 <deadweasel>	i'm trying though.
Mar 14 15:39:42 *	mircea_popescu hax dxaccess nao
Mar 14 15:40:37 <deadweasel>	lol
Mar 14 15:44:33 <deadweasel>	you will be disappointed with what you find
Mar 14 15:46:12 <deadweasel>	unless you like lab results for horses, then you'll be ecstatic
Mar 14 15:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla likes horses.
Mar 14 15:48:42 <kakobrekla>	yeah but not the riding or the fucking part.
Mar 14 15:51:34 <ThickAsThieves>	the eating out of
Mar 14 15:52:34 <jborkl>	eating out horses?
Mar 14 15:52:34 <deadweasel>	well, alot of them have abscesses and whatnot. and cancer.  and growths.
Mar 14 15:53:03 <jborkl>	That is kinda sick, but whatever
Mar 14 15:53:49 <ThickAsThieves>	funny now that everyones testing all the meat to see what animal dna is inside
Mar 14 15:53:54 <deadweasel>	yes, the horses are sick.  so they go to the vet.  the vet takes blood, sends it to our lab, we send the results to our pretty webUI
Mar 14 15:53:55 <ThickAsThieves>	oh look pig and lamb!
Mar 14 15:54:16 <jborkl>	I was referring to him eating out horses
Mar 14 15:54:23 <deadweasel>	no doubt
Mar 14 15:54:31 <ThickAsThieves>	no diggity
Mar 14 15:54:46 <deadweasel>	i like the way you horse it
Mar 14 15:55:14 <deadweasel>	time to punch out, adios fellas
Mar 14 15:58:34 <jcpham>	I AM GETTING ANEW PUPPY
Mar 14 15:58:40 <jcpham>	WH OWANTS TO SEE IT
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Mar 14 15:59:09 <kakobrekla>	lol now alex jones is talkin on bitcoin
Mar 14 15:59:17 <kakobrekla>	haha
Mar 14 15:59:25 <kakobrekla>	like listening to a rock.
Mar 14 16:03:27 <TomServo>	kakobrekla: What brilliant insights does he offer?
Mar 14 16:03:42 <kakobrekla>	so far he has the balls the admit he has no clue
Mar 14 16:03:56 <kakobrekla>	the = to
Mar 14 16:04:03 <jcpham>	stay away from it kakobrekla
Mar 14 16:04:06 <TomServo>	Well, that's something I guess.
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Mar 14 16:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	whi's alex jones ?
Mar 14 16:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/297/litecoin-surges-to-02-bitcoins-per-litecoin/
Mar 14 16:06:36 <mircea_popescu>	how often do you see true 1:1 split ?
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Mar 14 16:10:16 <dub>	alex jones is teh face of libertardanism
Mar 14 16:11:31 <jurov>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5b71a25a862c24f0927276f970937619b057231843eb509b905fdcf3
Mar 14 16:11:32 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7
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Mar 14 16:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Mar 14 16:12:01 <jurov>	Reminder - I'm still processing S.MPOE claims for helpful MPEx users
Mar 14 16:12:02 <jcpham>	alex jones is an paranoid whacko
Mar 14 16:12:17 <jcpham>	bilderburg 9/11 inside job loony
Mar 14 16:12:22 <jcpham>	let's be clear
Mar 14 16:12:41 <dub>	yea like I said libertarian
Mar 14 16:13:03 <jcpham>	.
Mar 14 16:13:19 <dub>	straps 3 ar15s to his penis before he leaves the house
Mar 14 16:13:53 <jcpham>	in reality...
Mar 14 16:14:01 <jcpham>	lives in fear and never leaves the house
Mar 14 16:14:31 <mircea_popescu>	dub wait, libertard is someone who believes in global warming and shit about how you shouldn't say nigger, right ?
Mar 14 16:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	ie, a retarded liberal
Mar 14 16:14:49 <ray>	Since you're talking about, Alex Jones thinks Max Kaiser is the creator of Bitcoin
Mar 14 16:14:53 <jcpham>	dub isn't being descriptive enough
Mar 14 16:15:04 <jcpham>	dub is down playing this man
Mar 14 16:15:29 <jcpham>	he has a dedicated following of sheeple willing to do what he says
Mar 14 16:16:26 <ray>	yep, have you got your water filter yet? essential to remove the government drugs that make you docile
Mar 14 16:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol prison planet /infowars
Mar 14 16:17:30 <mircea_popescu>	ok, great.
Mar 14 16:17:39 <ray>	haha… 1776 will commence again… hilarious! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZvMwcluEg
Mar 14 16:18:01 <TomServo>	Alex's interview with Piers Morgan was hilarious - if you're ever bored.
Mar 14 16:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	something tells me by 2015 we will be all doing some diff chain and mostly we'll be saying "no, this is not bitcoin, no this is not associated with the weirdo bitcoin devs, the weirdo bitcoin talkshow hosts and the weirdo etc"
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Mar 14 16:19:07 <TomServo>	It seemed like he was making a concerted effort to appear as batshit insane as possible...quite strange.
Mar 14 16:19:20 <dub>	TomServo: hilarious is one word for it
Mar 14 16:19:43 <dub>	yeah the batshit is strong in that one
Mar 14 16:19:48 <TomServo>	embarrassing is another
Mar 14 16:23:25 <dub>	you'd be uptight too wearing a 30kg bar of silver in your ass
Mar 14 16:24:00 <TomServo>	I think things would be rather loose in that case.
Mar 14 16:31:49 <kakobrekla>	basically AJ says Max Keiser created Bitcoin
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Mar 14 16:33:48 <kakobrekla>	hehe they mention intrade
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Mar 14 16:44:33 <jurov>	brb
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Mar 14 16:52:54 <smickles>	;;goxlag
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Mar 14 16:53:24 <smickles>	hmm, there hasn't been an order reported from gox in a while
Mar 14 16:53:28 <smickles>	about .5 hr
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Mar 14 16:56:49 <smickles>	strange, bitcoincharts is seeing orders
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Mar 14 17:05:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.00068 = 0.0204 BTC [-]
Mar 14 17:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	markedathome dude you're becoming like a beacon of sanity or something
Mar 14 17:07:59 <smickles>	 /l markedathome
Mar 14 17:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	"So please, lets just admit we aren't up to spec and have never been up to spec, and focus on getting there instead of pretending that "the world is after all perfect, if requiring a little adjustment" is a bastion of software engineering."
Mar 14 17:08:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 70 @ 0.00068 = 0.0476 BTC [-]
Mar 14 17:08:10 <smickles>	oh, not here tho
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Mar 14 17:08:41 <markedathome>	mircea_popescu: ?
Mar 14 17:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140233.msg1623175#msg1623175
Mar 14 17:08:59 <kakobrekla>	fuckin stupid bitcoind
Mar 14 17:09:10 <kakobrekla>	sendfrom "x" addy ammt
Mar 14 17:09:15 <kakobrekla>	sends from addy y
Mar 14 17:09:18 <kakobrekla>	not from x
Mar 14 17:09:26 <kakobrekla>	stupid.
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Mar 14 17:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile, some guy has the following point :
Mar 14 17:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	"So for a single database transaction which consists of all Bitcoin transactions in the block the number of locks required is O(N * log_b S). This number has no upper bound, it logaritmically increases with the size of blkindex.dat."
Mar 14 17:09:56 <mircea_popescu>	basically... the current bug would have wiped us.
Mar 14 17:10:04 <dub>	kakobrekla: stop complaining and code your own one nyeaa nyeaa nyeaa
Mar 14 17:10:08 *	markedathome is marked at bitcointalk
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Mar 14 17:10:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769996 BTC [+]
Mar 14 17:10:41 *	dub channels -dev
Mar 14 17:11:33 <kakobrekla>	this just fucked.
Mar 14 17:12:27 <kakobrekla>	and its not some optimisation feature as well
Mar 14 17:12:32 <kakobrekla>	cause they all got nice blocks of 100
Mar 14 17:12:37 <kakobrekla>	but noooo
Mar 14 17:12:45 <kakobrekla>	lets not take what user specified
Mar 14 17:12:56 <kakobrekla>	lets take some other euqal block of 100
Mar 14 17:12:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Mar 14 17:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, from reviewing the summaries of ~15mb of public and private conversations re this bug i'm sort-of contented that people have mostly got it,
Mar 14 17:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	and while they have somewhat humanly understandable trouble coming out with "We're idiots", nevertheless the message has landed fine and people are working at it.
Mar 14 17:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	ima give it a month or two and see.
Mar 14 17:14:15 <smickles>	ug, why can't i tell this thing to use my self signed cert ?
Mar 14 17:14:28 <TomServo>	I don't understand how the price is holding given the uncertainty surrounding the bug.
Mar 14 17:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo alex jones.
Mar 14 17:14:41 <smickles>	anyone know of a good free ssl cert issuer who isn't just mining me for information?
Mar 14 17:14:47 <TomServo>	haha
Mar 14 17:14:48 <mircea_popescu>	smickles nope
Mar 14 17:15:08 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i thought you just didn't use ssl, so how would you know?
Mar 14 17:15:11 <smickles>	:P
Mar 14 17:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	why do you think i don't ?
Mar 14 17:15:33 <smickles>	conflated memory, probably
Mar 14 17:16:15 <jurov>	smickles, startssl? can't get much better than that
Mar 14 17:16:48 <smickles>	free for a yeah, eh?
Mar 14 17:16:57 <smickles>	*year
Mar 14 17:17:13 <kakobrekla>	those certs are like 10$ a pop
Mar 14 17:17:14 <jurov>	yes. then you just make other request and go another year
Mar 14 17:17:22 <kakobrekla>	why would you hassle with startssl
Mar 14 17:17:34 <smickles>	kakobrekla: what do you suggest then?
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Mar 14 17:17:55 <jurov>	i got comodo positivessl
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Mar 14 17:18:41 <kakobrekla>	dunno find a source of cheap ones
Mar 14 17:18:52 <kakobrekla>	i have a guy here that can make em for 10e or so
Mar 14 17:19:38 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu where is that pissing on the devs thread urlpls
Mar 14 17:20:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.769996 = 1.54 BTC [+]
Mar 14 17:20:03 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.0
Mar 14 17:20:06 <kakobrekla>	ty
Mar 14 17:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	o lol
Mar 14 17:20:57 <jurov>	lol, there's also spanking thread to each according to their taste.
Mar 14 17:21:02 <Namworld>	Well I managed to get gigavps to remove me from skype by arguing against his paid upgrade.
Mar 14 17:21:13 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 14 17:21:33 <jurov>	oh Namworld, btw i got an invoice from bitvps
Mar 14 17:21:53 <Namworld>	Not sure how he justify all those costs...
Mar 14 17:21:54 <jurov>	i hereby recommend you all to stick it into orifice of your choice
Mar 14 17:22:03 <smickles>	wtf, startssl just gave me a timeout
Mar 14 17:22:34 *	Namworld sneezes. An invoice pops out.
Mar 14 17:22:49 <kakobrekla>	smickles they wont give ssl to bitcoin related services
Mar 14 17:22:50 <Namworld>	Oh, that was already taken care of.
Mar 14 17:22:53 <kakobrekla>	cause its 'financial'
Mar 14 17:22:56 <kakobrekla>	and that cant be free
Mar 14 17:23:00 *	Namworld puts it back.
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Mar 14 17:23:52 <smickles>	kakobrekla: suppose i tell them that it's an accounting service and not mention anything about bitcoin
Mar 14 17:24:01 <smickles>	'cause that's true
Mar 14 17:24:10 <kakobrekla>	yeah, accounting, nothing to do with finance
Mar 14 17:24:50 <kakobrekla>	feel free to hassle with them.
Mar 14 17:25:45 <smickles>	well, i'm not finding this 10 euro guy who you have
Mar 14 17:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	the word is hustle
Mar 14 17:25:52 <smickles>	so i'm doing research
Mar 14 17:25:55 <jurov>	not if it nas *coin* in the domain
Mar 14 17:25:59 <jurov>	*has
Mar 14 17:26:08 <kakobrekla>	acointing.
Mar 14 17:26:14 <kakobrekla>	not a coin, not accounting.
Mar 14 17:26:46 <kakobrekla>	acointing or accointing dot something
Mar 14 17:26:51 <jurov>	smickles, i shopped here: https://www.namecheap.com/ssl-certificates/comodo.aspx
Mar 14 17:27:01 <smickles>	kakobrekla: it's smickles.com
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Mar 14 17:27:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.05103 BTC [-]
Mar 14 17:27:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.05102 BTC [-]
Mar 14 17:27:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.05017 BTC [-]
Mar 14 17:27:42 <kakobrekla>	there ya go that should do it
Mar 14 17:27:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 17:27:51 <smickles>	ah, thx jurov  :)
Mar 14 17:27:54 <jurov>	startssl prolly says they don't endorse fecal humor
Mar 14 17:28:04 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck is this endorse bs
Mar 14 17:28:25 <mircea_popescu>	and btw, to all the people who think they are safe from ddos because "cloudflare" or equal bs :
Mar 14 17:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	what do you do when they "don't endorse" your site ?
Mar 14 17:29:09 <jurov>	go home
Mar 14 17:29:38 <Namworld>	Why didn't you put a cancellation request jurov?
Mar 14 17:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a great plan, strategic manager should get a bonus for that oen.
Mar 14 17:30:33 <jurov>	Namworld, phungus clearly said "we won't ever turn your vps again."
Mar 14 17:30:43 <Namworld>	ah
Mar 14 17:30:46 <jurov>	so he's now responsible for any cancella tions
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Mar 14 17:31:32 <Namworld>	I hope he wasn't as harsh as that short sentence makes it sound.
Mar 14 17:31:41 <smickles>	"...users using hotmail.com email address may have difficulty in receiving their hosting welcome emails from us. We strongly recommend that you use some other email address at this time. We also would advise you to contact our support using a non-hotmail email address to receive replies properly. It is especially hard to track email delivery failure with Hotmail, as Hotmail servers do not return a failed status, but silently discard emails which d
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Mar 14 17:31:45 <jurov>	look into #bitvps logs, it's there
Mar 14 17:31:48 <smickles>	lol
Mar 14 17:32:10 <Namworld>	I'm not in there 24/7
Mar 14 17:32:44 <jurov>	really should i dig them for you?
Mar 14 17:34:14 <jurov>	they clearly kicked me out. so they should also cancel my acct themselves.
Mar 14 17:34:49 <Namworld>	urgh, then service should also have been cancelled
Mar 14 17:35:12 <kakobrekla>	you mean the BitVPS?
Mar 14 17:35:22 <jurov>	yes bitvps
Mar 14 17:35:33 <Namworld>	yes so he doesn't receive invoices anymore
Mar 14 17:35:41 <kakobrekla>	bitvps should be canceled yea
Mar 14 17:35:43 <kakobrekla>	its a joke
Mar 14 17:36:06 <Namworld>	Why?
Mar 14 17:36:22 <kakobrekla>	"we won't ever turn your vps again."
Mar 14 17:36:24 <kakobrekla>	this sums it up
Mar 14 17:37:00 <Namworld>	I should probably handle PR from now on...
Mar 14 17:37:16 <kakobrekla>	what would you do?
Mar 14 17:37:19 <kakobrekla>	its not a PR issue
Mar 14 17:37:41 <Namworld>	It is if that's the way things are announced.
Mar 14 17:38:07 <jurov>	Namworld, PR-side I recommend that next time a client mentions ddos possibility, you damn well listen to them
Mar 14 17:38:22 <jurov>	not like "oh coinbr.com seems under dos, too"
Mar 14 17:38:47 <jurov>	"let's do nothing"
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Mar 14 17:39:06 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 14 17:39:11 <jurov>	facepalm
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Mar 14 17:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	well in fairness vps wasn't going to be able to take it.
Mar 14 17:39:44 <Namworld>	I wasn't aware of anything
Mar 14 17:40:46 <jurov>	eh, not gonna to discuss this again, you're never aware of anything
Mar 14 17:41:48 <Namworld>	Either way, we only have a few dozens clients and few dedis. Not like we could have handled a large DDoS.
Mar 14 17:41:52 <Namworld>	Doesn't seem like the let go was handled properly at all.
Mar 14 17:42:15 <Namworld>	I've cancelled the service, you'll no longer receive invoices/notices.
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Mar 14 17:43:06 <kakobrekla>	Namworld what do you do when a client is 1 month late on payment
Mar 14 17:43:06 <jurov>	okay, so i'll ask only one thing. next time client asks you "in case of ddos, will i be billed the traffic?" what do you answer?
Mar 14 17:43:31 <jurov>	i hope not "i'll be surprised" like you did last week just few hours before the ddos
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Mar 14 17:44:07 <jurov>	now you probably aren't aware this happened  but damn well it did. in this very channel.
Mar 14 17:44:20 <greekbet>	hi all
Mar 14 17:44:29 <kakobrekla>	hi
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Mar 14 17:54:02 <Namworld>	<jurov> okay, so i'll ask only one thing. next time client asks you "in case of ddos, will i be billed the traffic?" what do you answer?
Mar 14 17:55:33 <jurov>	Namworld: what? you don't know what to do in this case?
Mar 14 17:55:54 <dub>	http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html
Mar 14 17:55:57 <Namworld>	What's that about? We don't bill extra traffic, we'd ask the person to upgrade. In your case tho, would have been impossible to support you further. We'd have to drop DDoSed clients
Mar 14 17:56:01 <dub>	get your stalk on
Mar 14 17:56:31 <Namworld>	No, you make it sounds like someone said you'd be billed for it.
Mar 14 17:57:05 <jurov>	No, I think the right answer would be to ask the client why they expect the dos and where
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Mar 14 17:57:22 <jurov>	and move the info to tech staff
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Mar 14 18:00:01 <Namworld>	Oh, We don't have the infrastructure to handle any large DoS tho, we're relatively a very small host. Not the kind that was being conducted against MPEx. Not sure what you would ahve wanted us to do.
Mar 14 18:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/reuters-social-media-editor-indicted-for-allegedly-conspirin
Mar 14 18:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	vaguely related
Mar 14 18:00:38 <Namworld>	It's just not feasible for us to do so.
Mar 14 18:01:02 <jurov>	Namworld, i wanted you to consider the possibility beforehand. not being caught like a deer in the headlights
Mar 14 18:01:44 <jurov>	and even then, the ddos was raging for 6 hours till anyone started to do anything with it!!!!
Mar 14 18:01:56 <mircea_popescu>	if i may, everyone has a point here. in fairness we didnt really know how hot things will get early on. in retrospect it can be said that "well duh, obviously if it can take out mpex's main it will wipe a vps somewhere". but at the time i was busy and i guess nobody else realised it.
Mar 14 18:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand there's never going to be an economical solution to offer vps servers and yet scale it up in case of a serious ddos
Mar 14 18:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	so practically a vps host can't do much more than "sorry, we can't host you, you're too big".
Mar 14 18:03:34 <jurov>	well, having an alert for such cases is well within their economical reach... instead of waiting 8 hours till whole dc is in ashes
Mar 14 18:03:49 <dub>	I think while there could have been a quicker response (and really the pain here is for any other customer of bitvps), a $20 vps is not expected to handle any kind of dos in a way that mitigates the attack for its target
Mar 14 18:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	yeah i guess communications didn't work.
Mar 14 18:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	actually,
Mar 14 18:04:25 <Namworld>	Till whole DC?
Mar 14 18:04:26 <dub>	thats just my experience with gettign dos'd on $20 vpsen :)
Mar 14 18:04:41 <Namworld>	We have 1 server in switzerland.
Mar 14 18:04:43 <dub>	and yes I took out linodes fremont facility once
Mar 14 18:05:03 <dub>	because someone wanted my nick on IRC
Mar 14 18:05:12 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 14 18:06:54 <jurov>	okay, it was the server then, not the dc. and yes, i shouldn't have expected any thing else
Mar 14 18:07:27 <jurov>	but having to wait 6 hours and then another 2 hours fo r the staff trying to figure out if it's really an attack
Mar 14 18:07:35 <jurov>	that would enrage everyone
Mar 14 18:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	in fact going through the logs,
Mar 14 18:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 07 03:46:04 <jurov>	Namworld if this causes to overstep my bitvps bandwidth, or causes bitvps to be included in ddos outright
Mar 14 18:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 07 03:48:14 <Namworld>	i would be surprised, jurov
Mar 14 18:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	some warning was issued.
Mar 14 18:08:44 <jurov>	^exactly this i was speaking about
Mar 14 18:08:48 <jurov>	thx mircea
Mar 14 18:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	well... he promised to be surprised, he was surprised. no scam.
Mar 14 18:09:12 <jurov>	hehe
Mar 14 18:09:28 <Namworld>	... that's not really the point
Mar 14 18:09:53 <Namworld>	But apparently yes, words got out quickly and it was DDoS'ed too.
Mar 14 18:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. it doesn't look like there's much more anyone could have done practically.
Mar 14 18:10:17 <Namworld>	We only have a few nodes, we might be the most popular host in BTC zone but that's quite small a clientbase.
Mar 14 18:11:08 <jurov>	well, but if you don't want to host anything critical, where does this leave you?
Mar 14 18:11:26 <jurov>	irc knitting group with some hosting slapped on?
Mar 14 18:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	jurov listen, pretty much nobody offers off the shelf ddos proof hosting
Mar 14 18:11:44 <mircea_popescu>	it's just too expensive.
Mar 14 18:12:52 <Namworld>	It actually is very expensive. Pretty much any host will kick someone getting DDoSed outright. Not that it's something we'd wish to do, but it's not economically feasible at the cost VPSes/Shared hosting are billed.
Mar 14 18:13:24 <Namworld>	and we are pretty much salvaging RG's business which was barely breaken even. There's no money for 24/7 staff and we all have to work on it outside our day job/etc.
Mar 14 18:13:56 <Namworld>	We're already moving out of rented servers and have bought dedicated servers. We'll be upgrading and consolidating.
Mar 14 18:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld it's a best effort business, we get it. perhaps the only improvement is to have an internal messaging system somehow, so if you hear ddos early warning it can be used somehow
Mar 14 18:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	if that's even possible.
Mar 14 18:14:20 <Namworld>	But we're pretty much investing in a business that was in the red.
Mar 14 18:14:45 <Namworld>	Once we get our own servers instead of renting, we'll be in the green. For now we're focused on doing that and moving clients.
Mar 14 18:14:57 <Namworld>	Once that is done we can start improving services.
Mar 14 18:15:13 <Namworld>	But there's still a lot of work ahead.
Mar 14 18:16:12 <jurov>	to be honest, i was thinking about moving somewhere else back after december outage
Mar 14 18:16:38 <jurov>	but couldn't get any good advice except to pay heavy $$$
Mar 14 18:16:58 <dub>	I would only go with big name brand for a vps
Mar 14 18:17:16 <Namworld>	The switzerland node we have has been getting many issues at the DC level. We might drop it altogether and have to find another node to rent for Europe.
Mar 14 18:17:16 <dub>	there are so many 2 bit (!) shops out there
Mar 14 18:17:34 <Namworld>	For US we're consolidating clients in New York on owned servers.
Mar 14 18:20:34 <dub>	jurov: not to be rude, and this is why I still use linode, you can't expect any $20 vps to handle anything critical
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Mar 14 18:22:28 <jurov>	okay okay, i'm not complaining about that
Mar 14 18:22:46 <jurov>	i have just issue with communication and delays
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Mar 14 18:24:58 <jurov>	but prolly that's to be expected for $40 vps, too...
Mar 14 18:25:00 <kakobrekla>	Namworld hetzner
Mar 14 18:25:33 <dub>	jurov: yep
Mar 14 18:25:50 <Namworld>	kako: what?
Mar 14 18:25:58 <Namworld>	Well we hope to be able to be staffed 24/7 later on.
Mar 14 18:26:12 <kakobrekla>	>We might drop it altogether and have to find another node to rent for Europe.
Mar 14 18:26:17 <kakobrekla>	http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix-ex
Mar 14 18:26:18 <dub>	good, cheap, fast, pick two
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Mar 14 18:29:24 <parseval>	Beyond mitigation steps with firewall software, you could architect the web app to easily scale to multiple servers, then toss in nodes from AWS on demand during an attack.  A bit pricey, but if the question is whether you pay more or shut down...
Mar 14 18:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	sex.
Mar 14 18:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	parseval software firewalls weren't even being touched, routers got it.
Mar 14 18:30:17 <parseval>	Nice
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Mar 14 18:30:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 1 @ 0.08995 BTC [-]
Mar 14 18:31:52 <smickles>	;;bc,diff
Mar 14 18:31:53 <gribble>	4847647.1520656
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Mar 14 18:36:02 <RandolphDuke>	which broker is better coinbr or btc-tc ?
Mar 14 18:36:49 <jurov>	RandolphDuke btc-tc is exchange not broker
Mar 14 18:37:14 <Namworld>	Indeed
Mar 14 18:37:17 <jurov>	and you did not say your criteria
Mar 14 18:37:20 <RandolphDuke>	so how do they have mpex assets?
Mar 14 18:37:38 <RandolphDuke>	jurov: recieving dividends
Mar 14 18:37:39 <jurov>	these are passthroughs backed by mpex assets
Mar 14 18:38:17 <RandolphDuke>	from what i take it btc-tc takes 5% of the dividend ammount
Mar 14 18:38:24 <RandolphDuke>	and coinbr charges a monthly fee
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Mar 14 18:38:37 <jurov>	coinbr is not asking a fee for receiving dividends, but asks 0.09/month flat
Mar 14 18:39:05 <RandolphDuke>	what about reputation, is coinbr the same people as mpex?
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Mar 14 18:39:34 <dub>	coinbr is jurov
Mar 14 18:39:38 <jurov>	no, i'm coinbr owner, mircea_popescu is mpex owner
Mar 14 18:39:39 <dub>	;;getrating jurov
Mar 14 18:39:40 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User jurov, rated since Fri Jan 20 15:16:32 2012. Cumulative rating 24, from 15 total ratings. Received ratings: 15 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 10 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jurov
Mar 14 18:39:58 <dub>	he has a good reputation
Mar 14 18:40:12 <RandolphDuke>	what about security of funds
Mar 14 18:41:07 <jurov>	it's discussed extensively on bitointalk, lemme dig it...
Mar 14 18:41:20 <RandolphDuke>	thnx
Mar 14 18:41:27 <jurov>	here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.0
Mar 14 18:44:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.0018 = 0.018 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 18:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.53 = 2.12 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 19:08:43 <RandolphDuke>	havelock is another broker or exchange?
Mar 14 19:09:41 <dub>	exchange
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Mar 14 19:13:36 <smickles>	RandolphDuke: i believe that coinbr is the only mpex broker with a website
Mar 14 19:14:15 <smickles>	and, ugg, i just installed a proper ssl cert ... now apache wont start
Mar 14 19:14:30 <smickles>	and i can't find any useful error in the logs
Mar 14 19:14:33 <smickles>	:PP
Mar 14 19:17:33 <kakobrekla>	Inaba: My open offer for a bet: BFL will ship the promised products within a reasonable time frame (as determined by a reputable member of this community, I propose Casascius). I offer BTC from 100 BTC to 2000 BTC. I am also willing to accept the domain name joshzerlan.com in lieu of BTC on the part of Bryan Micon.
Mar 14 19:17:39 <kakobrekla>	how could i have missed that.
Mar 14 19:18:22 <kakobrekla>	gotta love the reasonable timeframe
Mar 14 19:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 14 19:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla : make an alias for josh-zerlan.com on bitbet's server
Mar 14 19:24:12 <mircea_popescu>	and redirect it to the march bfl bet.
Mar 14 19:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	gimme the ns.
Mar 14 19:24:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3449 BTC [+]
Mar 14 19:25:00 *	smickles melts in defeat
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Mar 14 19:25:27 <smickles>	how am i supposed to fix something when there are no errormessages or logs?
Mar 14 19:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	smickles join the club, my sysadmin ppls have been wrangling with something exactly liek that for 3 days now.
Mar 14 19:27:13 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: but this should be simple, and common. I'm sure many people install ssl certs
Mar 14 19:27:28 <mircea_popescu>	yah well...
Mar 14 19:29:04 <Troic>	selinux / strace are your friends and foe
Mar 14 19:29:24 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 14 19:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00072543 / 0.00072578 / 0.00072614 (22480 shares, 16.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074098 / 0.00076718 (769435 shares, 570.14 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069589 / 0.00078628 (43419967 shares, 30,215.69 BTC)
Mar 14 19:30:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/
Mar 14 19:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	from my personal "must read collection
Mar 14 19:31:20 <RandolphDuke>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 14 19:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00569985 / 0.00584763 / 0.00599987 (473 shares, 2.77 BTC), 7D: 0.00413 / 0.00575556 / 0.006 (50044 shares, 288.03 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00613776 / 0.0069 (2392891 shares, 14,687.00 BTC)
Mar 14 19:34:25 <smickles>	the internet is so useful: "Wow after hours of digging I finally found the solution thanks to a post by rajanichand  Here what I did in httpd.conf  I commented out the SSLCACertificateFile line   and it worked."
Mar 14 19:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	haha cool
Mar 14 19:35:32 <smickles>	unfortunately, i don't think i have the right kind of mind for that solution
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Mar 14 19:37:02 <smickles>	and i've come across a handfull of "UPDATE: i fixed it after finding _this_line_ in som OTHER logs" But they never say what logs those were
Mar 14 19:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	you know...
Mar 14 19:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	those other logs
Mar 14 19:41:04 <jurov>	smickles, you don't have passphrase set on key?
Mar 14 19:41:22 <jurov>	so that apache is stopping somewhere and waiting for it
Mar 14 19:42:12 <smickles>	jurov: i believe i do have a passphrase set on the key
Mar 14 19:42:46 <jurov>	get rid of it.. you can add it later if desired
Mar 14 19:42:47 <smickles>	could it be stopping and waiting for me to type it in somehow?
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Mar 14 19:42:58 <smickles>	oh, howto get rid of it?
Mar 14 19:42:58 <jurov>	yes tat's exactly what it does
Mar 14 19:43:14 <jurov>	some openssl magic invocation
Mar 14 19:43:22 <smickles>	i will send you a tip if this works
Mar 14 19:44:29 <smickles>	hmm, i'm going to have to send a new csr to those guys now, arn't i
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Mar 14 19:45:17 <jurov>	http://www.mnxsolutions.com/apache/removing-a-passphrase-from-an-ssl-key.html << smickles
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Mar 14 19:50:47 <smickles>	jurov: give me an addy, it worked.
Mar 14 19:51:06 <smickles>	but now, the thing that prompted me to do this is giveing another error
Mar 14 19:51:15 <smickles>	D:
Mar 14 19:51:31 <jurov>	what thing?
Mar 14 19:51:52 <smickles>	blockchain.info's api making a callback to my server
Mar 14 19:52:13 <smickles>	their java install doesn't seem to think my cert is a good cert
Mar 14 19:52:21 <jurov>	nromal browser is not complaining?
Mar 14 19:52:46 <smickles>	yeah, works on chromium
Mar 14 19:53:58 <jurov>	does apache provide all certs in chain or only the your one and the CA?
Mar 14 19:54:36 <jurov>	i remember i had to add them all cause some browser was unhappy
Mar 14 19:54:50 <smickles>	SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/apache2/PositiveSSL.ca-bundle
Mar 14 19:55:01 <smickles>	is that what you're talking about?
Mar 14 19:55:06 <jurov>	yea that should work
Mar 14 19:55:24 <smickles>	yeah, it's in there, and has been in there
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Mar 14 19:56:29 <jurov>	i dunno. so 1DzxV3arKg22TfVYx4nw1rLFJmjLTnXHi7 then
Mar 14 19:58:18 <jurov>	maybe you'll have to import them into java then
Mar 14 20:00:47 <smickles>	lol, yeah, import my cert into their java. anyway, sent :)
Mar 14 20:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	what's the problem ?
Mar 14 20:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	java is like, secure and maff and stuff
Mar 14 20:03:02 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: when 'they' try to send a callback to my server, their software gives them "Error sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target" and gives up
Mar 14 20:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 14 20:04:08 <jurov>	https://forums.comodo.com/ssl_certificate/unable_to_find_valid_certification_path_to_requested_target-t17086.0.html;wap2=
Mar 14 20:04:17 <mircea_popescu>	you know they could just add your cert.
Mar 14 20:04:21 <jurov>	lol maybe their java is outdated
Mar 14 20:04:47 <smickles>	wtf, would they really be on 1.5?
Mar 14 20:04:55 <smickles>	damn early 1.5 at that
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Mar 14 20:05:48 <Bowjob>	yawn
Mar 14 20:05:58 <Bowjob>	my electrum wallet doesnt appear to work lol
Mar 14 20:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82 BTC [+]
Mar 14 20:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	“The welfare state reduces a citizen to a client, subordinates them to a bureaucrat, and subjects them to rules that are anti- work, anti-family, anti-opportunity and anti-property... Humans forced to suffer under such anti-human rules naturally develop pathologies. The evening news is the natural result of the welfare state.”
Mar 14 20:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like in love over here.
Mar 14 20:08:35 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: don't love AJ, it's a sin
Mar 14 20:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	aj ?
Mar 14 20:08:50 <smickles>	alexjones
Mar 14 20:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	that's not alex jones
Mar 14 20:09:00 <smickles>	silly joke
Mar 14 20:09:05 <mircea_popescu>	its some obscure jim beam dood
Mar 14 20:09:52 <smickles>	that's an ungoogleable name
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Mar 14 20:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://jim.com/liberquo.htm
Mar 14 20:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	jim.com, nicely enough
Mar 14 20:20:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1555 BTC [+]
Mar 14 20:23:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]
Mar 14 20:23:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15199 BTC [-]
Mar 14 20:23:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.15021 = 0.3004 BTC [-]
Mar 14 20:24:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15021 BTC [-]
Mar 14 20:24:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.1502 = 0.9012 BTC [-]
Mar 14 20:24:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 20 @ 0.15 = 3 BTC [-]
Mar 14 20:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	ahh, got a nice one for midnightmagic :
Mar 14 20:25:25 <mircea_popescu>	“Altruism does not mean mere kindness or generosity, but the sacrifice of the best among men to the worst, the sacrifice of virtues to flaws, of ability to incompetence, of progress to stagnation--and the subordinating of all life and of all values to the claims of anyone's suffering.”
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Mar 14 20:28:56 <topace_>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 14 20:28:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.53000000 / 0.54966167 / 0.57000000 (60 shares, 32.97970000 BTC), 7D: 0.44000006 / 0.56318428 / 0.61999910 (735 shares, 413.94044920 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.62515082 / 0.75900000 (5260 shares, 3288.29329337 BTC)
Mar 14 20:29:01 <topace_>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 14 20:29:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00569985 / 0.00570109 / 0.00599986 (241 shares, 1.37 BTC), 7D: 0.00413 / 0.00575556 / 0.006 (50044 shares, 288.03 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00613751 / 0.0069 (2388391 shares, 14,658.80 BTC)
Mar 14 20:44:12 <smickles>	jurov: phantomcircuit nailed the second issue, my server wasn't providing enough of the cert chain, browsers just dl the missing parts, java needs the whole thing spoon-fed to it
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Mar 14 20:47:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.769994 = 15.3999 BTC [-]
Mar 14 20:48:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769995 BTC [+]
Mar 14 20:49:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.769996 = 3.08 BTC [+]
Mar 14 20:50:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00574 BTC [+]
Mar 14 20:52:10 <kakobrekla>	http://xkcd.com/1181/
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Mar 14 20:58:37 <smickles>	kakobrekla: not funny :P
Mar 14 20:58:45 <kakobrekla>	this one is http://xkcd.com/1169/
Mar 14 20:59:21 <smickles>	heh, actually i do think it's funny, but it sends a bad message
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Mar 14 21:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	in other news http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136330962761.jpg
Mar 14 21:07:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 21:14:49 <dub>	did you see my link before?
Mar 14 21:15:09 <dub>	be fun to set two points in london and try to navigate at full zoom
Mar 14 21:15:17 <dub>	http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html
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Mar 14 21:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	fpr some values of fun
Mar 14 21:18:41 <dub>	tbh I spent ten minutes looking for porn and gave up
Mar 14 21:20:09 <dub>	probably need to refamiliarise myself with the best socioeconomic direction
Mar 14 21:20:32 <dub>	its been 30 odd years since I've been there
Mar 14 21:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	been where ?!
Mar 14 21:28:06 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Human progress exists because people cooperate together, and are nice to each other. The peoples whose nature is to prey on other humans, to cast them away, or to be mercenary, these are destructive elements. People who are destructive while pretending their acts select for greater fitness is a perversion of the nature of Darwinism which does not, in fact, match reality.
Mar 14 21:28:38 <mircea_popescu>	you equivocate plenty in there. progress does not exist. humans do live comfortably because they cooperate, but this does have no relation to being nice.
Mar 14 21:28:48 <mircea_popescu>	gotta think cleanly if you aim to think at all.
Mar 14 21:28:52 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Nor is courtesy and kindness in the face of cruelty anything I would espouse.
Mar 14 21:29:20 <midnightmagic>	Progress does exist in the form of higher standards of living, freedom, and the advancement of human knowledge and science.
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Mar 14 21:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	standards of living have been collapsing ever since welfarism (which is a good example of the nice/cooperation confusion)
Mar 14 21:29:57 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: If you would like to make a specific point about altruism rather than make quotation-like assertions, I would be happy to entertain it.
Mar 14 21:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	the only way that collapse can be hidden is by avoiding reference to objective standard.
Mar 14 21:30:05 <midnightmagic>	That is actually completely false.
Mar 14 21:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	so then we have a point.
Mar 14 21:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	to disagree on :D
Mar 14 21:30:40 <midnightmagic>	And I would say that those who prey on other humans and run confidence games with them are more responsible for the destruction you think outweighs the progress humans have made in science and medicine.
Mar 14 21:30:44 <mircea_popescu>	now let's take your progress apart. fewer people can read in the us today than did in 1913.
Mar 14 21:31:00 <midnightmagic>	Aumann's agreement theorem states one or both of us is, at that point, being irrational.
Mar 14 21:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.54 = 1.08 BTC [+]
Mar 14 21:31:04 <midnightmagic>	Thus, I do not agree to disagree.
Mar 14 21:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	fewer people die today in good health than did in 1913
Mar 14 21:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	what esle was in there, o, right, freedom.
Mar 14 21:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	i'll rest on that one, seems too easy.
Mar 14 21:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.53 = 7.95 BTC [-]
Mar 14 21:32:32 <midnightmagic>	That is a statement which is pointless: more people live longer, in better health than in 1913.
Mar 14 21:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	also, you perhaps hold aumann in too high a regard. he's a minor bayesian, which is another way to say nonsense.
Mar 14 21:32:51 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic only if you measure these like the us govt measures unemployment.
Mar 14 21:33:10 <mircea_popescu>	take something inconvenient, like people who died of cancer before age 18.
Mar 14 21:33:23 <mircea_popescu>	see how it went up by the 100's of %.
Mar 14 21:33:29 <midnightmagic>	I'm no sure you understand what Bayesian reasoning is at this point.
Mar 14 21:33:57 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure you lack the cognitive trappings that'd allow you to evaluate that meta-point, so let's allow it to go silent.
Mar 14 21:35:54 <midnightmagic>	You make a nonsense assertion about Bayesian reasoning being nonsense and then tell me I'm incapable of cognition for saying you're making ignorant comments?
Mar 14 21:36:08 <midnightmagic>	You know you could have just said, "no, u"
Mar 14 21:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	here's the thing : the theorem you cite refers to something very speciffic.
Mar 14 21:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	you are applying it with no consideration given to the conditions of validity it contains
Mar 14 21:37:16 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: The population of the world also went up. Your statements of statistics are flawed, and either you're doing it on purpose and waiting for me to mock you, or you really do think these things, in which case I ..  well I'm not sure where to go from there.
Mar 14 21:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	this speaks of you.
Mar 14 21:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	right, see ?
Mar 14 21:37:32 <mircea_popescu>	we have problems.
Mar 14 21:37:53 <midnightmagic>	Lemme give it a stab. Pirates and global warming?
Mar 14 21:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	what about these ?
Mar 14 21:38:46 <midnightmagic>	If population itself rises by x%, and you say number of cancer cases have increased by x%, you are actually saying cancer *rates* have remained static.
Mar 14 21:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	listen, the reason i phrased that way is not because of a misunderstanding of statistics, as you seem inclined to conveniently surmise.
Mar 14 21:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	it's because i presupposed in your usage of "progress" that you do not look at percents but absolutes.
Mar 14 21:39:38 <midnightmagic>	I surmise but not conclude, as you'll note in my previous comment about the possibilities of why you're doing that.
Mar 14 21:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	you'd have to, in order to maintain coherence.
Mar 14 21:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	"no kids left behind" and all that.
Mar 14 21:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	(yes, surmise but not conclude. which is specifically why i used that word and not the other. i'm trying to help you judge here.)
Mar 14 21:40:34 <midnightmagic>	You make it easy to be uncivil, mircea.
Mar 14 21:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	you're welcome.
Mar 14 21:40:50 <midnightmagic>	I don't feel so.
Mar 14 21:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	well... not like you have to :p
Mar 14 21:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	but let us better understand this notion of progress you use, because after all it's so messed up by commoners chewing on it.
Mar 14 21:43:42 <midnightmagic>	Well, it does free me up to mock your "my success by my measure makes me right" bias.
Mar 14 21:43:53 <midnightmagic>	Very well.
Mar 14 21:44:13 <mircea_popescu>	so : if situation A is that 100 people die yearly in forest fires and situation B is that 3 people die yearly in forest fires but one person is kidnapped and tortured to death as a religious practice which causes the reduction in forest fires casualities, is a movement from A to B progress in your view ?
Mar 14 21:44:59 <BitHub>	:/
Mar 14 21:45:04 <BitHub>	morning
Mar 14 21:45:08 *	BitHub tips hat
Mar 14 21:45:08 <mircea_popescu>	hi.
Mar 14 21:45:37 <BitHub>	gday maaaaate, how the bloody hell are ya?
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Mar 14 21:46:30 <midnightmagic>	Human longevity has increased; human standards of living have increased; human freedom to pursue a healthy happy life is greater than it ever was; human knowledge is at its greatest peak in all of history; human treatment of disease is greater and more effective than it has ever been, ever in all history; human notions of morality and ethics (on the whole) are greater than they have ever been.
Mar 14 21:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	ah but why muddy things up, just answer the q.
Mar 14 21:48:11 <midnightmagic>	I literally don't have an answer for your contrived example.
Mar 14 21:48:31 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps human notions of morality and ethics aren't quite as developed as all that.
Mar 14 21:48:44 <mircea_popescu>	or perhaps you're not quite up to the reading, seeing how it's both ancient and banal an example.
Mar 14 21:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway. i'm satisfied myself, thanks.
Mar 14 21:48:55 <midnightmagic>	They are. We have natural rights now that humans have never had for basically all of recorded history.
Mar 14 21:49:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
Mar 14 21:49:53 <midnightmagic>	It's a stupid philosophical example with no bearing on my assertion.
Mar 14 21:50:00 <midnightmagic>	+s
Mar 14 21:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	well, it's true it has no bearing on your assertions.
Mar 14 21:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	the reason would be that they're empty pr stuff.
Mar 14 21:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	where  they mean anything they're false, where they're not false they're meaningless.
Mar 14 21:51:14 <mircea_popescu>	for that matter the raw raw raw we are the best the sun has ever seen is possibly the oldest rabble rousing talk ever. older than Athens for sure.
Mar 14 21:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.52 = 5.2 BTC [-]
Mar 14 21:52:11 <midnightmagic>	So what? It's true now.
Mar 14 21:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	it always was "true now".
Mar 14 21:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	i guess for some views that constitutes proof of progress.
Mar 14 21:52:41 <midnightmagic>	So?
Mar 14 21:53:01 <mircea_popescu>	so nothing really, it's a little amusing, you'll grow out of it.
Mar 14 21:53:10 <midnightmagic>	lol
Mar 14 21:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	ikr?
Mar 14 21:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	people have never been this smart and yet men your age have never been this childish.
Mar 14 21:53:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Mar 14 21:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	it's a paradox.
Mar 14 21:54:11 <midnightmagic>	So desperately certain; so patronizing. And you continue to rail against that which you have no control over; ineffective. Shouting into the wind.
Mar 14 21:54:18 <midnightmagic>	I'm fairly sure you have no idea how old I am.
Mar 14 21:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	hm, if you won't think the question too much proof of my many and varied shortcomings,
Mar 14 21:54:51 <midnightmagic>	Pretend you are my better then. I'm confident you don't grow out of that no matter how true or untrue it may be.
Mar 14 21:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	why do you presume to guess my emotional state ? does it help something ?
Mar 14 21:55:23 <midnightmagic>	Dinner time. Have fun talking to your echo chamber.
Mar 14 21:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	laters.
Mar 14 21:56:05 <jborkl>	Emotions hinder rational thought
Mar 14 21:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	well that's true. but he already got slapped once with the entire statistics thing. you'd expect people a little quicker on their feet.
Mar 14 21:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	presume you don't understand what's being said because of the other person once, get shown better, stop making the assumption. at least for a wittle while.
Mar 14 21:57:48 <jborkl>	That seems reasonable to me
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Mar 14 22:05:21 <RandolphDuke>	midnightmagic: standards of living in developed countries have barely budged in 50 years outside of major improvements in communications
Mar 14 22:06:45 <RandolphDuke>	midnightmagic: with all the productivity gains the government has said weve made over 50 years, 8 hours of work per week should be enough to afford a 1950's standard of living, yet today 2 income earners are required just to make ends meet
Mar 14 22:10:09 <midnightmagic>	RandolphDuke: That's not true at all re: not budged in 50 years.
Mar 14 22:10:17 <RandolphDuke>	sure it is
Mar 14 22:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic 44, gemini.
Mar 14 22:10:58 <mircea_popescu>	o, there you are.
Mar 14 22:11:01 <RandolphDuke>	name an innovation in the last 30 years that has improved your life other then the internet
Mar 14 22:11:22 <kakobrekla>	mobile phone
Mar 14 22:11:24 <kakobrekla>	gps
Mar 14 22:11:28 <kakobrekla>	microwave
Mar 14 22:11:30 <Troic>	     mri
Mar 14 22:11:31 <RandolphDuke>	phones existed in the 50's
Mar 14 22:11:49 <kakobrekla>	fine, GSM then
Mar 14 22:11:52 <RandolphDuke>	all of those are merely improvements of existing technology
Mar 14 22:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla seriously tho, people need about 3 average incomes now to maintain a 1950s lifestyle. in the 80s needed two.
Mar 14 22:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	soon will need four.
Mar 14 22:12:23 <kakobrekla>	yeah and?
Mar 14 22:12:23 <RandolphDuke>	some households already have their kids working part time
Mar 14 22:12:47 <kakobrekla>	thats why bitcoin is 50 now
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Mar 14 22:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 14 22:12:57 <RandolphDuke>	the government has siphoned off the productivity gains through inflation/taxation and transfered them into none-return bearing investments
Mar 14 22:13:00 <RandolphDuke>	squandered
Mar 14 22:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	at least zee germans financed a united europe
Mar 14 22:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	so they'll have a disaster to account for it.
Mar 14 22:13:27 <mircea_popescu>	the us financed nothing in particular, a buncha lossy wars.
Mar 14 22:13:42 <RandolphDuke>	european union is just a secular version of the holy roman empire
Mar 14 22:13:48 <RandolphDuke>	its nothing new
Mar 14 22:13:56 <mircea_popescu>	i think that's what they hoped it to be, but it didn't work out.
Mar 14 22:14:08 <kakobrekla>	i still dont see what the problem is
Mar 14 22:14:16 <RandolphDuke>	infact its probably even worse now, since at least the emperors still feared divine punishment somewhat
Mar 14 22:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	hre was politically very weak.
Mar 14 22:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	look into it, it was an interesting time for freedom.
Mar 14 22:15:06 <midnightmagic>	1910 literacy rate: 7.7% = 92m * 1-0.077=84m, 2013 literacy rates for the US: 99% = 313m * 0.99 =309.9m       309.9m > 84m.
Mar 14 22:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	those numbers are lies.
Mar 14 22:15:30 <midnightmagic>	Oh, sure. Make up a definition that makes you right.
Mar 14 22:15:31 <midnightmagic>	lol
Mar 14 22:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	want me to pick up the reports that kids going to college today need to take basic literacy ?
Mar 14 22:15:38 <RandolphDuke>	what i find most amusing about the US, is if you actually research what the so called tyrants extracted from the population it was roughly 5-10% of annual income
Mar 14 22:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	have you spoken to one of these young hopefuls ?
Mar 14 22:15:43 <RandolphDuke>	compare that to close to 50% now lol
Mar 14 22:15:52 <RandolphDuke>	in a "free" country
Mar 14 22:16:00 <midnightmagic>	Considering 7.7% *couldn't read AT ALL* in 1910?
Mar 14 22:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	over 10% can't read at all today.
Mar 14 22:16:16 <midnightmagic>	Anecdote proves everything, I always say. Right mircea?
Mar 14 22:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's just they're carefully avoided when the statistics are made.
Mar 14 22:16:28 <mircea_popescu>	just like the uynemployed doesn't include the homeless
Mar 14 22:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	because they smell.
Mar 14 22:16:33 <midnightmagic>	And let's just make up some random numbers!  10%
Mar 14 22:17:03 <RandolphDuke>	midnightmagic: go pull up a newspaper from 100-200 years ago and compare it to one today, the level of language was far higher + the ammount of information per page was astonishing
Mar 14 22:17:07 <midnightmagic>	#statsfail
Mar 14 22:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	not how it works joe.
Mar 14 22:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	do you mind if i call you joe ?
Mar 14 22:17:37 <midnightmagic>	Only if you mind me calling you fluffy the unicorn.
Mar 14 22:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	you're already calling me mircea, so it's about fair.
Mar 14 22:18:02 <RandolphDuke>	midnightmagic: if people were so well educated the unemployment rate wouldnt be as high, they would be able to figure out how to be productive from all their knowledge
Mar 14 22:18:03 <midnightmagic>	Okay fluffy.
Mar 14 22:18:14 <kakobrekla>	omg kids.
Mar 14 22:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	o, a challenge ? mkay.
Mar 14 22:18:39 <mircea_popescu>	for that matter i know you live in de soto, wisconsin, and that you collect, and what, and when you dated, and a whole other pile of stuff.
Mar 14 22:18:42 <midnightmagic>	Well? Courtesy's out the window, why not?
Mar 14 22:18:47 <mircea_popescu>	i got it all because i asked, half hour ago or whatever.
Mar 14 22:18:51 <midnightmagic>	LOL
Mar 14 22:18:54 <midnightmagic>	Who, me?
Mar 14 22:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	let's call the person joe.
Mar 14 22:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	anyway.
Mar 14 22:19:10 <midnightmagic>	... Wisconsin..?
Mar 14 22:19:31 <midnightmagic>	I thought I told you I'm Canadian.
Mar 14 22:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Mar 14 22:19:56 <midnightmagic>	Why would I be living in Wisconsin then?
Mar 14 22:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 14 22:20:48 <midnightmagic>	Is this another one of those things that isn't translating into English so well?
Mar 14 22:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	it's a bizzare question, what, they shoot canadians in wisconsin ? or how should i know anyway
Mar 14 22:22:13 <midnightmagic>	whargarble.
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Mar 14 22:23:48 <midnightmagic>	http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Velvet42/motivational%20posters/whargarbl.jpg
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Mar 14 22:35:21 <kakobrekla>	its official, we have a 'chain block', dub. http://www.bloomberg.com/video/bob-s-daily-buzzword-bitcoin-EJ04CzJbQsKJ6CqAsDI_WA.html
Mar 14 22:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	in you chain blockin' yo forks
Mar 14 22:38:03 <smickles>	get that fact into wikipedia!
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Mar 14 22:46:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00599963 = 0.8999 BTC [-]
Mar 14 22:49:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00072139 = 2.1642 BTC [-]
Mar 14 22:50:30 <leotreasure>	rofl chain block
Mar 14 22:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	like cockblock
Mar 14 22:52:34 <mircea_popescu>	but whit hain in it.
Mar 14 22:56:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
Mar 14 22:58:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 261 @ 0.005199 = 1.3569 BTC [+]
Mar 14 23:01:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00072139 = 4.653 BTC [-]
Mar 14 23:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00071103 = 0.711 BTC [-]
Mar 14 23:01:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00071102 = 1.4931 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 23:08:39 <MJR_>	hi all
Mar 14 23:08:46 <MJR_>	;;ident
Mar 14 23:08:46 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
Mar 14 23:08:58 <smickles>	;;tslb
Mar 14 23:09:01 <smickles>	howdy MJR_
Mar 14 23:09:02 <gribble>	Time since last block: 18 minutes and 5 seconds
Mar 14 23:09:12 <MJR_>	what's new :)
Mar 14 23:09:40 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Mar 14 23:09:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.39999, Best ask: 47.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 47.39999, 24 hour volume: 31666.06954211, 24 hour low: 46.05000, 24 hour high: 47.99000, 24 hour vwap: 47.29517
Mar 14 23:10:21 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
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Mar 14 23:10:22 <gribble>	0.250708 seconds
Mar 14 23:10:49 <MJR_>	;;buy 48
Mar 14 23:10:49 <gribble>	(buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include (1 more message)
Mar 14 23:11:42 <MJR_>	hmmm what's the command to see how many dollars to move to 48?
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Mar 14 23:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00072352 = 2.8579 BTC [+]
Mar 14 23:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00072397 = 2.6787 BTC [+]
Mar 14 23:14:19 <smickles>	;;help market
Mar 14 23:14:19 <gribble>	Error: There is no command "market".
Mar 14 23:14:22 <smickles>	hmm
Mar 14 23:14:38 <smickles>	;;help asks
Mar 14 23:14:39 <gribble>	(asks [--over] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoins for sale at or under <pricetarget>. If '--over' option is given, find coins or at or over <pricetarget>.
Mar 14 23:14:51 <MJR_>	yeah, I always forget most of gribbles cool features
Mar 14 23:15:07 <smickles>	;;asks 48
Mar 14 23:15:19 <gribble>	There are currently 8294.7094 bitcoins offered at or under 48.0 USD, worth 397358.170674 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds
Mar 14 23:15:23 <smickles>	;;gribblelag
Mar 14 23:15:23 <gribble>	Error: "gribblelag" is not a valid command.
Mar 14 23:15:43 <smickles>	nanotube: impliment gribblelag :D
Mar 14 23:15:48 <MJR_>	;;bids 47
Mar 14 23:15:48 <gribble>	There are currently 265.09159 bitcoins demanded at or over 47.0 USD, worth 12474.6943879 USD in total. | Data vintage: 29.0987 seconds
Mar 14 23:16:08 <MJR_>	pretty big wall to climb
Mar 14 23:16:46 <MJR_>	gonna put out some low limit orders and hope for a weekend dip :)
Mar 14 23:17:15 <MJR_>	;;seen MJR_
Mar 14 23:17:15 <gribble>	MJR_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 28 seconds ago: <MJR_> gonna put out some low limit orders and hope for a weekend dip :)
Mar 14 23:17:25 <smickles>	weekend dip was (maybe still is) all the rage on the speculation forum
Mar 14 23:17:45 <MJR_>	lol, well...
Mar 14 23:18:01 <smickles>	i always thought of it as the 'beer money' dip
Mar 14 23:18:05 <MJR_>	if enough people believe it will self fulfill
Mar 14 23:18:16 <MJR_>	yeah true
Mar 14 23:18:38 <smickles>	;;tslb
Mar 14 23:18:42 <gribble>	Time since last block: 9 minutes and 50 seconds
Mar 14 23:21:17 <smickles>	heh, it's a much better name for it too, since it's appearance kinda comes and goes. it's easily overwhelmed, afterall, there is only so much beer
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Mar 14 23:29:37 <MJR_>	hehehe
Mar 14 23:29:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0052 BTC [-]
Mar 14 23:30:10 <MJR_>	I've been thinking about an interexchange depository trust corporation
Mar 14 23:30:26 <MJR_>	you could set it up like an assurance contract
Mar 14 23:30:48 <MJR_>	and then require m of n agreements for transactions
Mar 14 23:31:03 <MJR_>	basically each exchange would have a seat on the board
Mar 14 23:31:43 <MJR_>	but you could instantly transact to any member, and that would increase network effect and liquidity
Mar 14 23:32:09 <smickles>	MJR_: talk to mircea, you two would be pees on a pod on that issue
Mar 14 23:32:17 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 14 23:32:22 <MJR_>	it could be great
Mar 14 23:32:33 <MJR_>	an exchange for exchanges
Mar 14 23:33:02 <MJR_>	think that would be the only/best way to unseat gox
Mar 14 23:33:44 <kakobrekla>	workin on it, kinda.
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Mar 14 23:33:58 <MJR_>	in what way?
Mar 14 23:34:21 <kakobrekla>	in a cool way
Mar 14 23:34:38 <MJR_>	hehehe
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Mar 14 23:35:02 <MJR_>	I think it could work if you start small
Mar 14 23:35:07 <MJR_>	and then grow
Mar 14 23:35:52 <kakobrekla>	go big or home.
Mar 14 23:36:52 <MJR_>	kinda like cirrus
Mar 14 23:36:55 <MJR_>	or plus
Mar 14 23:37:23 <MJR_>	im just saying that starting it opens u up to network effect
Mar 14 23:37:29 <MJR_>	then it can grow
Mar 14 23:38:14 <MJR_>	get btc-e, bitfloor, bit stamp, campbx...
Mar 14 23:38:23 <MJR_>	bitcoin24
Mar 14 23:39:35 <MJR_>	you can move a big chunk of transactions off the chain
Mar 14 23:40:01 <MJR_>	and simply rebalance accounts at the end of the day
Mar 14 23:49:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769995 BTC [-]
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Mar 14 23:49:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.769996 = 2.31 BTC [+]
Mar 14 23:49:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.769998 = 6.93 BTC [+]
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Mar 14 23:53:34 <nanotube>	smickles: see 'latency' :)
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Mar 15 00:07:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769998 BTC [+]
Mar 15 00:08:27 <midnightmagic>	"44, gemini"  ?
Mar 15 00:08:36 <midnightmagic>	lol ooookay.
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Mar 15 00:12:55 <Josh_Rossi>	&hi
Mar 15 00:12:55 <gribble>	Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
Mar 15 00:13:02 <Josh_Rossi>	$hi
Mar 15 00:13:18 <Josh_Rossi>	;;hi
Mar 15 00:13:18 <gribble>	Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
Mar 15 00:13:34 <Josh_Rossi>	what does assbot look for?
Mar 15 00:16:45 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ticker
Mar 15 00:16:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.04001, Best ask: 47.07000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 47.07000, 24 hour volume: 29825.68892744, 24 hour low: 46.05000, 24 hour high: 47.99000, 24 hour vwap: 47.24754
Mar 15 00:17:12 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ticker m s.dice
Mar 15 00:17:12 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Mar 15 00:17:32 <Josh_Rossi>	$ticker m s.dice
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Mar 15 00:18:24 <Josh_Rossi>	&ticket m s.dice
Mar 15 00:18:24 <gribble>	Error: "ticket" is not a valid command.
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Mar 15 00:18:37 <Josh_Rossi>	&ticker m s.dice
Mar 15 00:18:38 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
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Mar 15 00:25:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769997 BTC [-]
Mar 15 00:25:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.769998 = 3.85 BTC [+]
Mar 15 00:28:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15001 BTC [+]
Mar 15 00:28:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 24 @ 0.15 = 3.6 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 00:40:53 <smickles>	Josh_Rossi: !
Mar 15 00:40:59 <smickles>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 15 00:41:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00599963 / 0.00599963 / 0.00599963 (150 shares, 0.90 BTC), 7D: 0.00413 / 0.00575629 / 0.006 (50194 shares, 288.93 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00613751 / 0.0069 (2388381 shares, 14,658.72 BTC)
Mar 15 00:41:31 <Josh_Rossi>	hehehe thanks smickles
Mar 15 00:41:34 <Josh_Rossi>	!hi
Mar 15 00:41:49 <Josh_Rossi>	I just like listening to assbot
Mar 15 00:41:58 <smickles>	 ;; is gribble, ! is assbot, $ is mpexbot
Mar 15 00:41:59 <Josh_Rossi>	!where are you
Mar 15 00:43:02 <smickles>	$markov
Mar 15 00:43:03 <mpexbot>	"but they will never take our, MPEX!!!!!!"
Mar 15 00:43:49 <smickles>	;;help latency
Mar 15 00:43:49 <gribble>	(latency [<network>]) -- Returns the current latency to <network>. <network> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the network to which this command is to apply.
Mar 15 00:43:54 <smickles>	;;latency
Mar 15 00:43:55 <gribble>	0.18 seconds.
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Mar 15 01:11:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 158 @ 0.1 = 15.8 BTC [+]
Mar 15 01:12:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 15 01:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	jurov http://live.coinbr.com/ doesn't show anything to me, is my browser borkt ?
Mar 15 01:21:57 <Josh_Rossi>	mircea_popescu: I don't see anything either
Mar 15 01:22:17 <mircea_popescu>	you know i can't see your name without thinking of portia de rossi
Mar 15 01:22:23 <Josh_Rossi>	lol
Mar 15 01:22:34 <Josh_Rossi>	not sure if that is good or bad
Mar 15 01:22:40 <Josh_Rossi>	but I like her...
Mar 15 01:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	well... this tall blonde gorgeous lesbian chick.
Mar 15 01:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	how bad can it be
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Mar 15 01:23:04 <mjr_>	hehehe
Mar 15 01:23:32 <mjr_>	yeah...just not sure if I want people to associate me with a hot blonde lesbian
Mar 15 01:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	and actually, talk about a trophy wife : she's maried to degeneres.
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Mar 15 01:26:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://cdn.evilbeetgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ellen_portia_kiss.jpg
Mar 15 01:26:30 <mircea_popescu>	visual aid.
Mar 15 01:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-keiser/is-bitcoin-money_b_2849031.html
Mar 15 01:26:56 <mircea_popescu>	what does the libertard crowd wish to speak about ?
Mar 15 01:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	NOT the virtues of bitcoin. the fascinating fact that one of them got some.
Mar 15 01:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	navel grazing is becoming enshrined.
Mar 15 01:27:21 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 15 01:27:29 <mjr_>	max keiser is hilarious
Mar 15 01:27:40 <mjr_>	grazing or gazing?
Mar 15 01:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Mar 15 01:39:12 <mjr_>	so, I was thinking an assurance contract could be a good way to start a unified clearing process for exchanges
Mar 15 01:39:26 *	mjr_ combined with an m of n transaction system
Mar 15 01:39:44 <mjr_>	where m is 2/3 of n
Mar 15 01:40:11 <mjr_>	seems to me, that that is the only way you rival gox
Mar 15 01:41:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00599963 = 2.9998 BTC [-]
Mar 15 01:44:55 <grubles>	any thoughts on ppcoin?
Mar 15 01:58:41 <smickles>	;;tslb
Mar 15 01:58:44 <gribble>	Time since last block: 2 minutes and 26 seconds
Mar 15 02:06:40 *	smickles is still testing his payment processing system
Mar 15 02:07:58 <smickles>	i would've used bitpay, but they still haven't responded to my application and the certainly didn't respond b/f i had 90% finished my own system
Mar 15 02:09:15 <smickles>	ya know, it really says something about their business if *i* can code a functional replacement for them before they even respond to me
Mar 15 02:10:12 <smickles>	they did ask about volume tho, maybe they just see me as too small of a fish
Mar 15 02:11:51 <mjr_>	smickles: lol
Mar 15 02:12:18 <mjr_>	the finance guys I work with are like send it to India
Mar 15 02:12:37 <mjr_>	im like you don't get it...this is the fun part
Mar 15 02:13:03 <mjr_>	interesting convo in OTC
Mar 15 02:13:10 <smickles>	heh, i had a lot of fun earlier getting and installing a 'proper' ssl cert
Mar 15 02:13:23 *	mjr_ led me to think of blockchain marriage certificates 
Mar 15 02:13:38 <mjr_>	you had to pay?
Mar 15 02:14:33 <smickles>	mjr_: well, i didn't wan't to go with one of those 'free' providers, and my self-signed just wasn't cutting it anymore
Mar 15 02:14:42 <mjr_>	yeah
Mar 15 02:14:51 <mjr_>	what's the site, is it live?
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Mar 15 02:17:27 <mjr_>	how do you see the banner?
Mar 15 02:21:31 <smickles>	heh, the site is a wip
Mar 15 02:21:45 <smickles>	the banner?
Mar 15 02:21:56 <mjr_>	for a room
Mar 15 02:22:11 <smickles>	 /topic you mean?
Mar 15 02:24:44 <mjr_>	ah thanks
Mar 15 02:24:56 <mjr_>	was looking for motd or something
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Mar 15 02:28:04 <smickles>	 /motd is for the server
Mar 15 02:28:23 <smickles>	also, usually the topic has more in it than a url
Mar 15 02:31:45 <mjr_>	lol so much drama pretty much on every channel and forum
Mar 15 02:32:04 <mjr_>	I scurry back to bitcoin-assets
Mar 15 02:33:44 <smickles>	I've heard people say that it's not true that bitcoin isn't backed by anything; it's backed by drama.
Mar 15 02:34:16 <mjr_>	can't wait for a btc reality show
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Mar 15 02:37:45 <mjr_>	you could have an amazing drama on amc about bitcoins
Mar 15 02:38:09 <mjr_>	miners, exchanges, Silk Road retailers
Mar 15 02:39:03 <mjr_>	irc ops
Mar 15 02:39:16 <mjr_>	so many stories to tell
Mar 15 02:46:32 <Ukto>	anyone taken a loan on btcjam? i have some question on it
Mar 15 03:00:06 <coingenuity>	Ukto: from what i've seen btcjam is uh...dubious at best
Mar 15 03:00:15 <coingenuity>	mostly SR activity, not much else
Mar 15 03:00:31 <coingenuity>	once in a while something legit-seeming pops up, but given the rest of the loans on there...eh
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Mar 15 03:08:31 <Bowjob>	yawn
Mar 15 03:08:34 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 15 03:08:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.60551, Best ask: 47.10799, Bid-ask spread: 0.50248, Last trade: 46.99588, 24 hour volume: 30482.99861105, 24 hour low: 46.05000, 24 hour high: 47.96000, 24 hour vwap: 47.17570
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Mar 15 03:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82 BTC [+]
Mar 15 03:39:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.32001 BTC [-]
Mar 15 03:39:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 03:39:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.31 = 1.55 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 03:52:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 04:02:57 <tiberiusiv>	is jurov awake?
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Mar 15 04:12:12 <smickles>	alright, I think I'll be launching the MPEx GUI tomorrow (today after i sleep and such)
Mar 15 04:12:21 <smickles>	:D
Mar 15 04:21:11 <Ukto>	>,>
Mar 15 04:21:25 <Ukto>	is it differnt
Mar 15 04:21:30 <Ukto>	than a native passtru
Mar 15 04:21:32 <Ukto>	from coinbr ?
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Mar 15 05:13:40 <Bowjob>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndshbH3qZ6Y
Mar 15 05:13:44 <Bowjob>	ahahah stupid americans
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Mar 15 05:16:54 <jurov>	tiberiusiv yes?
Mar 15 05:18:25 <jurov>	of course live.coinbr.com shows nothing
Mar 15 05:18:38 <jurov>	 Unterminated comment starting line 6 in <b>/home/polimedi/public_html/bitcoin/mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php</b> on line <b>6</b>
Mar 15 05:18:48 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: check ur error logs
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Mar 15 05:26:16 <Olive6767>	Hi All :)
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Mar 15 05:46:21 <tiberiusiv>	jurov pm pls
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Mar 15 06:16:18 <oizotov>	is there a site from which i can download the whole blockchain ?
Mar 15 06:19:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6546 @ 0.00071102 = 4.6543 BTC [-]
Mar 15 06:21:54 <jurov>	oizotov, there's a torrent
Mar 15 06:21:54 <saulimus>	oizotov, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145386.0
Mar 15 06:32:56 <oizotov>	i dont need bootstrap.dat im using old client and i need blk000X.dat
Mar 15 06:35:44 <jurov>	oizotov http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/3551/how-can-one-download-the-initial-blockchain-data-files-securely
Mar 15 06:41:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.344 BTC [-]
Mar 15 06:42:42 <oizotov>	i dont find any mirror that works i tried to download them with the client its running 4-5 days already and havent finished downloading it ...
Mar 15 06:44:48 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152617.0
Mar 15 06:44:50 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 15 06:45:00 <kakobrekla>	time to punch gox in the face
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Mar 15 06:46:10 <jurov>	oizotov, use 0.8 then
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Mar 15 06:46:57 <jurov>	it's *not* broken, not even for mining, if blocksize limit stays unchanged
Mar 15 06:47:17 <oizotov>	my wallet doesnt load in 0.8 some version mismatch i guess
Mar 15 06:48:14 <jurov>	pls ask in #bitcoin-dev then...
Mar 15 06:48:24 <oizotov>	ok thanks
Mar 15 06:50:02 <jurov>	lol mpoe-pr immediately chimed in... she could have added "we dispensed of this problem completely, mpex withdrawals are deprecated."
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Mar 15 06:59:33 <Anduck>	lol i don't see ANY problem with that mtgox announcement
Mar 15 06:59:39 <Anduck>	btc price indeed has gone up
Mar 15 06:59:53 <Anduck>	like 3x from the long-lasting 10-4usd
Mar 15 06:59:55 <Anduck>	10-14 usd*
Mar 15 07:00:08 <Anduck>	so isn't it quite clear that they will fix the limits too?
Mar 15 07:00:11 <kakobrekla>	maybe you dont, others do.
Mar 15 07:00:25 <Anduck>	well, what is the problem, then? =I
Mar 15 07:00:42 <Anduck>	the real withdrawal limit value is still bigger than it was with the 200 btc border
Mar 15 07:00:44 <kakobrekla>	if you dont have one doesnt mean it isnt there.
Mar 15 07:00:59 <Anduck>	well i can't even think of a problem so yeah...
Mar 15 07:01:17 <Anduck>	that
Mar 15 07:01:27 <Anduck>	that's also true they should now fix their fee structure, too
Mar 15 07:01:39 <Anduck>	or maybe not, in fact
Mar 15 07:01:57 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 15 07:02:15 <Anduck>	maybe they had to lower the withdrawal limit cuz of some aml things?
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Mar 15 07:03:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00072397 = 0.181 BTC [+]
Mar 15 07:03:53 <markedathome>	if it is an aml thing then they should tie the withdrawal limits to 7 day vwap equivalent of USD limits.
Mar 15 07:28:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769999 BTC [+]
Mar 15 07:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5201 = 5.201 BTC [+]
Mar 15 07:45:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.005199 = 0.0104 BTC [+]
Mar 15 07:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.5200001 = 7.8 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.52 = 5.2 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.511 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:47:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.511 = 2.555 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:47:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.049 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.511 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.5102 = 7.1428 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.5101 = 4.0808 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:50:59 <ZedsterX>	is there any where the BTC trading newb can go for learning the ropes?
Mar 15 07:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 200 @ 0.51 = 102 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5005 = 4.5045 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:52:04 <kakobrekla>	#bitcoin-assets
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Mar 15 07:52:39 <ZedsterX>	the help here is not really for the newb
Mar 15 07:52:54 <kakobrekla>	its not?
Mar 15 07:53:25 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 15 07:53:28 <ZedsterX>	you guys are very much in your own little all knowing group
Mar 15 07:54:27 <kakobrekla>	are you asking for yourself or someone else'
Mar 15 07:54:36 <ZedsterX>	myself
Mar 15 07:54:47 <kakobrekla>	well what do you want to know?
Mar 15 07:55:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 106 @ 0.5003 = 53.0318 BTC [-]
Mar 15 07:55:22 <ZedsterX>	looking for stuff like chart reading and basics
Mar 15 07:55:44 <kakobrekla>	well for chart reading you can ask Enky
Mar 15 07:56:32 <kakobrekla>	you can start here http://btctrading.wordpress.com/
Mar 15 07:57:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16799 BTC [+]
Mar 15 07:57:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.168 BTC [+]
Mar 15 07:57:50 <ZedsterX>	yeah i saw that sight yesterday guess i should read up there...thanks Kako
Mar 15 07:58:48 <kakobrekla>	yeah enky is around here or join #bit4x, more techincal stuff is discussed there
Mar 15 07:59:39 <ZedsterX>	VWAP? see right there i'm lost....also aren't basic day trading how-to sites helpful for the basics?
Mar 15 08:00:21 <kakobrekla>	take your time, read, learn
Mar 15 08:01:30 <kakobrekla>	http://btctrading.wordpress.com/technical-background/
Mar 15 08:01:32 <ZedsterX>	well S.DICE has already taught me my first lesson...that is the reason for interest
Mar 15 08:01:48 <kakobrekla>	check the pdfs here
Mar 15 08:01:48 <kakobrekla>	etc
Mar 15 08:02:10 <ZedsterX>	yep i am moving to the tablet for some reading...thanks again sir
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Mar 15 08:08:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 08:10:12 <kakobrekla>	no prob
Mar 15 08:10:31 <kakobrekla>	ZedsterX bug Enky if you have issues understanding
Mar 15 08:10:39 <kakobrekla>	;)
Mar 15 08:14:05 <ZedsterX>	will do ...and i'll tell you sent me :)
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Mar 15 08:31:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 08:50:28 <Troic_>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 15 08:50:30 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00599963 / 0.00599963 / 0.00599963 (650 shares, 3.90 BTC), 7D: 0.005 / 0.00576119 / 0.006 (50615 shares, 291.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00613748 / 0.0069 (2388881 shares, 14,661.72 BTC)
Mar 15 08:52:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.769999 = 1.54 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 09:01:49 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 15 09:01:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.29098, Best ask: 47.34967, Bid-ask spread: 0.05869, Last trade: 47.29098, 24 hour volume: 29361.03478444, 24 hour low: 46.05000, 24 hour high: 47.90000, 24 hour vwap: 47.08799
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Mar 15 09:16:19 <kakobrekla>	bfl site down - conspiraci
Mar 15 09:17:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 12 @ 0.00575 = 0.069 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 09:22:35 <Guest2434>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 15 09:22:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.50030000 / 0.51111382 / 0.57000000 (427 shares, 218.24560150 BTC), 7D: 0.46050000 / 0.55100234 / 0.61999910 (1008 shares, 555.41036353 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.61443452 / 0.75900000 (5555 shares, 3413.18378474 BTC)
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Mar 15 09:24:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]
Mar 15 09:24:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.153 BTC [-]
Mar 15 09:24:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.152 = 0.304 BTC [-]
Mar 15 09:24:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.15001 = 0.7501 BTC [-]
Mar 15 09:24:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 09:34:01 <kakobrekla>	usagi: People like what I am doing or they wouldn't invest.
Mar 15 09:34:09 <kakobrekla>	yeah, people are also idiots.
Mar 15 09:34:31 <kakobrekla>	sorry, a > missing there, first line is a quote.
Mar 15 09:36:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.0051 = 0.0765 BTC [-]
Mar 15 09:37:24 <deadweasel>	investing in metals doesn't make one an idiot, but trading btc for it is.
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Mar 15 09:48:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00555 = 0.0833 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 09:56:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.0052 = 0.104 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 10:20:33 <deadweasel>	http://bitcointipper.com/index.html
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Mar 15 10:36:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.769999 = 2.31 BTC [+]
Mar 15 10:36:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.77 = 11.55 BTC [+]
Mar 15 10:37:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 100 @ 0.77 = 77 BTC [+]
Mar 15 10:39:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.789999 = 7.9 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 10:40:04 <pigeons>	your site deadweasel?
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Mar 15 11:04:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [+]
Mar 15 11:08:10 <jurov>	so i went on to research bit more about coinlab.. have to wade through bullshit like:
Mar 15 11:08:18 <jurov>	When our team discussed how to tackle these issues in the US, it seemed clear that Mt. Gox had by far the best security record in the Bitcoin exchange landscape.
Mar 15 11:10:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.79 = 5.53 BTC [+]
Mar 15 11:11:21 <ThickAsThieves>	since they are so good at security we decided to take that role out of their hands for all US customers
Mar 15 11:16:08 <imsaguy>	shh
Mar 15 11:16:14 <imsaguy>	you aren't supposed to read that
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Mar 15 11:40:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
Mar 15 11:44:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.151 BTC [+]
Mar 15 11:44:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
Mar 15 11:44:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13151 BTC [-]
Mar 15 11:45:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1012 = 0.3036 BTC [-]
Mar 15 11:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00073667 = 2.5047 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 12:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.52 = 1.56 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:10:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.515 BTC [-]
Mar 15 12:11:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.51 = 2.04 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 12:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 57 @ 0.51 = 29.07 BTC [-]
Mar 15 12:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.51 = 5.1 BTC [-]
Mar 15 12:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [-]
Mar 15 12:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 1.82 = 16.38 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:25:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 1.83 = 12.81 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.5715 = 4.0005 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:26:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.572 = 1.716 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:26:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57377777 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:26:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57399999 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:26:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.575 = 5.175 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:26:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5849999 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:26:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.59 = 5.9 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:26:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.2 = 4.8 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 15 @ 1.3999 = 20.9985 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.3999 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.59 = 1.18 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 12:34:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.79 = 23.7 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:37:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:37:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.79 = 19.75 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:39:19 <kakobrekla>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/06921f0d1ca90226d64ecbd050b8bd68/tumblr_mjoij4XdBZ1qf0u3po1_500.jpg
Mar 15 12:41:01 <smickles>	lol
Mar 15 12:43:31 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 15 12:43:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.50030000 / 0.51471736 / 0.59000000 (523 shares, 269.19717916 BTC), 7D: 0.50030000 / 0.55025058 / 0.61999910 (1102 shares, 606.37614115 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.61284029 / 0.75900000 (5666 shares, 3472.35306240 BTC)
Mar 15 12:45:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.79 = 6.32 BTC [+]
Mar 15 12:51:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 13:05:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 8 @ 0.398 = 3.184 BTC [+]
Mar 15 13:05:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 13:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
Mar 15 13:11:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 13:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.999 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 13:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.59 = 2.36 BTC [+]
Mar 15 13:13:03 <ThickAsThieves>	"NOTE: For your security, we automatically lock domain names 30 days after unlocking." Thanks GoDaddy...
Mar 15 13:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.59999 = 8.9999 BTC [+]
Mar 15 13:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.599999 = 5.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 13:25:25 <smickles>	;;calc 0.21253985/[ticker --last]
Mar 15 13:25:26 <gribble>	0.00447980555598
Mar 15 13:25:33 <smickles>	;;calc 0.21253985*[ticker --last]
Mar 15 13:25:33 <gribble>	10.083738518
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Mar 15 13:29:13 <Diablo-D3>	 http://gigaom.com/2013/03/15/finnish-development-firm-offers-to-pay-salaries-partly-in-bitcoins/
Mar 15 13:29:59 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 15 13:30:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.159 BTC [+]
Mar 15 13:30:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1599 BTC [+]
Mar 15 13:30:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.163 BTC [+]
Mar 15 13:30:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16439 BTC [+]
Mar 15 13:30:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 13:45:26 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 15 13:45:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.50030000 / 0.51892185 / 0.59999900 (550 shares, 285.40702016 BTC), 7D: 0.50030000 / 0.55155534 / 0.61999910 (1129 shares, 622.70598217 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.61271479 / 0.75900000 (5692 shares, 3487.57260040 BTC)
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Mar 15 13:51:20 <jurov>	uh, mktdepth for live.coinbr still broken... should i duct tape it or wait for mircea?
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Mar 15 13:56:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.0052 = 0.13 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 14:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.0007249 = 2.3559 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 14:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	jurov heh. all better now
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Mar 15 14:31:23 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, josh-zerlan.com
Mar 15 14:31:53 <jurov>	SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list
Mar 15 14:31:55 <jurov>	[Break On This Error] 	
Mar 15 14:31:56 <jurov>	, 610]]}, "X.IDIFF.SEP": {"S": [[235000000, 10]], "B": []}});
Mar 15 14:32:16 <jurov>	the code still isn't valid
Mar 15 14:32:46 <jurov>	ah it begins with JurovP(JurovP({
Mar 15 14:33:01 <jurov>	thanks for mentioning me twice, not necessary :D
Mar 15 14:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	also deposits flushed.
Mar 15 14:35:35 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX you'll be well advised to remember chart reading as in, technical analysis is far from being accepted like newtonian mechanics is.
Mar 15 14:35:49 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 15 14:36:08 <ZedsterX>	huh?
Mar 15 14:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	double encapsulation ftw. test it j
Mar 15 14:36:36 <ThickAsThieves>	basically chart reading can be voodoo or hindsight 20/20 a lot of the time
Mar 15 14:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX re your earlier ocmplaint.
Mar 15 14:36:52 <jurov>	Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ')' in /home/polimedi/public_html/bitcoin/mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php on line 37
Mar 15 14:37:00 <ZedsterX>	no one was complaining about anything
Mar 15 14:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	hum wtf is going on there
Mar 15 14:37:41 <jurov>	mircea, just deprecate it :P
Mar 15 14:37:45 <ZedsterX>	i was asking for help...which as this proves this is not the place to do it
Mar 15 14:37:47 <jurov>	hehe
Mar 15 14:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Mar 15 14:38:38 <ThickAsThieves>	Zed, mp is just saying, in your efforts to educate yourself, remember that chart reading isnt always reliable
Mar 15 14:38:43 <mircea_popescu>	fucking caching makes things insane.
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Mar 15 14:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	or at least that's what they'e telling me in a doomed attempt to avoid the firing squad
Mar 15 14:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. now!
Mar 15 14:39:16 <ZedsterX>	yes of course
Mar 15 14:39:50 <ZedsterX>	but it is an essential part of trading none the less
Mar 15 14:39:57 <jurov>	\o/ live is working... but no trades happened today? argh
Mar 15 14:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX doesn't have to be really. anyway, hard to know what is ofcourse and what isn't ofcourse from yoru pov, ya know ?
Mar 15 14:40:42 <mircea_popescu>	<assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6546 @ 0.00071102 = 4.6543 BTC [-
Mar 15 14:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	i see some at least.
Mar 15 14:40:54 <ZedsterX>	so then I put my question to you all knowing MP...where is a good place to read up on trading basics?
Mar 15 14:40:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;bc,stats
Mar 15 14:41:52 <ThickAsThieves>	so, Luke Jr flew out to BFL to save the day huh?
Mar 15 14:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX i have no idea man.
Mar 15 14:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	maybe something like http://www.google.com/search?q=trading+basics&complete=0 ?
Mar 15 14:42:01 <mircea_popescu>	(no sarcasm intended)
Mar 15 14:42:09 <ZedsterX>	tried that
Mar 15 14:42:21 <jurov>	ah yes... http://mpex.co/mpex-rss.php has last trade from March 12 :(
Mar 15 14:42:24 <iz>	ZedsterX: do you want to get into technical charts or what?
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Mar 15 14:42:44 <ThickAsThieves>	Zed, you could always ask specific questions here while you educate yourself
Mar 15 14:42:50 <ZedsterX>	I was just looking for help ...trust me it won't happen again here
Mar 15 14:43:20 <ThickAsThieves>	rather than "how do i learn" you could ask "What is the diff between a green bar and a red bar" or such
Mar 15 14:43:22 <iz>	ZedsterX: i found this was useful for me, when i was first learning about trading stocks http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school
Mar 15 14:43:33 <iz>	particularly what all the technical indicators are suppose to mean
Mar 15 14:43:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think any of us meant to tell you to gtfo w your Qs
Mar 15 14:43:44 <ZedsterX>	thanks iz
Mar 15 14:43:46 <iz>	np
Mar 15 14:43:49 <ThickAsThieves>	matter of fact you were given specific people to talk to too
Mar 15 14:44:15 <ZedsterX>	i am good thanks
Mar 15 14:44:32 <ZedsterX>	not trying to start shit at all
Mar 15 14:44:33 <mircea_popescu>	jurov nu-uh :D
Mar 15 14:44:48 <ZedsterX>	just wanna learn
Mar 15 14:45:10 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: did you test it? noe it's unparsable
Mar 15 14:45:27 <ZedsterX>	i try to keep my mouth shut here and pick up stuff just to avoid this very thing
Mar 15 14:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i was looking at it a moment ago, it came up as rss. lesee
Mar 15 14:46:01 <mircea_popescu>	"This is a valid RSS feed."
Mar 15 14:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	did something subtle change ?
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Mar 15 14:46:17 <jurov>	okay but firefox suddenly insists on displaying as text
Mar 15 14:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX dun sweat it man, nothing happened.
Mar 15 14:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov hm
Mar 15 14:46:34 <jurov>	can't find out why
Mar 15 14:47:03 <jurov>	ah yes, it says Content-Type: text/html
Mar 15 14:47:19 <ThickAsThieves>	no harm done zed :)
Mar 15 14:48:06 <jurov>	never mind, coinbr script parses it fine
Mar 15 14:49:08 <ZedsterX>	so here's a specific question....dump S.DICE or hope for a comeback later in the month?
Mar 15 14:49:15 <ZedsterX>	:)
Mar 15 14:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ima add the header thing to the pile.
Mar 15 14:50:14 <ThickAsThieves>	there are a few strats you could take with sdice
Mar 15 14:50:33 <ThickAsThieves>	but none are totally reliable
Mar 15 14:50:39 <ZedsterX>	see right there sir...strats?
Mar 15 14:50:47 <ThickAsThieves>	strategies
Mar 15 14:50:49 <jurov>	mircea,np, it's ok. and don't forget to add stacktraces/ php code dumps on error. they're really helpful xD
Mar 15 14:51:01 <ZedsterX>	i know nothing...i will wait until I know wtf i am talking about
Mar 15 14:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.999 = 3.998 BTC [+]
Mar 15 14:51:09 <ZedsterX>	heheh of course :)
Mar 15 14:51:18 <ThickAsThieves>	strats is a thing from when played WoW
Mar 15 14:51:19 <mircea_popescu>	jurov normally server responds with a fu on error, but this is the new stuff that's still being debugged
Mar 15 14:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	(and still not 100% ok, either).
Mar 15 14:51:25 <ThickAsThieves>	unrelated to stocks ;)
Mar 15 14:51:34 <ZedsterX>	kinda like aggro :
Mar 15 14:51:38 <ThickAsThieves>	right
Mar 15 14:51:39 <ZedsterX>	:)
Mar 15 14:51:53 <ThickAsThieves>	but with SDICE,
Mar 15 14:52:02 <ZedsterX>	MMORPG i understand :)
Mar 15 14:52:05 <ThickAsThieves>	keep an eye on the dividend for the month
Mar 15 14:52:15 <ThickAsThieves>	its looking pretty low this month so far
Mar 15 14:52:25 <ThickAsThieves>	whereas in past montgs
Mar 15 14:52:28 <ThickAsThieves>	recently
Mar 15 14:52:37 <ThickAsThieves>	its been higher
Mar 15 14:52:39 <ZedsterX>	where can you see an estimate of comi9ng dividends?
Mar 15 14:52:46 <ThickAsThieves>	nowhere
Mar 15 14:52:47 <ThickAsThieves>	but
Mar 15 14:52:48 <ZedsterX>	-9
Mar 15 14:52:54 <ThickAsThieves>	you can figure it out
Mar 15 14:52:56 <ZedsterX>	ahh ok i see what your saying
Mar 15 14:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX there's dooglus' stuff which is pretty interesting
Mar 15 14:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	you seen that ?
Mar 15 14:53:05 <ThickAsThieves>	Dooglus does a daily report
Mar 15 14:53:06 <ZedsterX>	no sir
Mar 15 14:53:09 <ThickAsThieves>	sec
Mar 15 14:53:30 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.0
Mar 15 14:53:38 <ThickAsThieves>	however
Mar 15 14:53:44 <ThickAsThieves>	he reports the TOTAL revenue
Mar 15 14:53:47 <ThickAsThieves>	all time
Mar 15 14:53:52 <ZedsterX>	right
Mar 15 14:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	and obviously there's no rule saying it has to do in the future what it did in the past.
Mar 15 14:54:03 <ThickAsThieves>	so you have to also reference the monthly statements
Mar 15 14:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	but still, interesting stuff
Mar 15 14:54:10 <ThickAsThieves>	to know this months profit
Mar 15 14:54:10 <ZedsterX>	yes of course MP
Mar 15 14:54:12 <ThickAsThieves>	to date
Mar 15 14:54:16 <ThickAsThieves>	then what you can do
Mar 15 14:54:25 <ThickAsThieves>	is divide the profit for themonth so far
Mar 15 14:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves what's it ahead so far for march ? like 1-2k ?
Mar 15 14:54:33 <ThickAsThieves>	by how many days have passed
Mar 15 14:54:43 <ZedsterX>	ok i uderstand all that...so maybe I am not as dumb as i thought
Mar 15 14:54:48 <ThickAsThieves>	then multiply by the number of days in this month
Mar 15 14:54:54 <ThickAsThieves>	to project profit
Mar 15 14:54:57 <ZedsterX>	right
Mar 15 14:55:03 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah mp
Mar 15 14:55:06 <ThickAsThieves>	pretty low
Mar 15 14:55:35 <ThickAsThieves>	but sensible numbers dont seem to affect sdice share price
Mar 15 14:55:43 <ThickAsThieves>	it seems to often do the opposite :/
Mar 15 14:55:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol ya, here's the funny thing i've noticed :
Mar 15 14:56:01 <ZedsterX>	i noticed that too and thought I was reading something wrong
Mar 15 14:56:09 <mircea_popescu>	when s.dice does well operationally, shares sell and price goes up
Mar 15 14:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	when it does poorly nobody is selling so trading freezes pretty much
Mar 15 14:56:27 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Mar 15 14:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	it's as if there's group A which wants to buy cheap and hold forever and group B which wants to daytrade
Mar 15 14:56:33 <ThickAsThieves>	but there's still money to be made
Mar 15 14:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	and A is pretty much raping B
Mar 15 14:56:52 <ThickAsThieves>	day trading is still possible
Mar 15 14:56:55 <ThickAsThieves>	just a low qty
Mar 15 14:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	ya i guess so
Mar 15 14:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, when i'm old and i retire i'll write a book about the strange edge cases at the end of regulation in free mkt.
Mar 15 14:58:22 <ThickAsThieves>	if you are holding long term (which is a fantasy in bitcoin imo)
Mar 15 14:58:30 <ThickAsThieves>	then you look at everything differently
Mar 15 14:58:42 <ThickAsThieves>	if SDICE introduced a new product or game
Mar 15 14:58:43 <ZedsterX>	2 different games
Mar 15 14:58:46 <ThickAsThieves>	it could skyrocket
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Mar 15 14:59:09 <ThickAsThieves>	but erik doesnt wanna grow any faster than he is it seems
Mar 15 14:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	im not entirely what his strategy is
Mar 15 14:59:28 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen evoorhees
Mar 15 14:59:28 <gribble>	evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <evoorhees> it's how resilient btc is in the face of them that matters
Mar 15 14:59:35 <ThickAsThieves>	seems to be focusing more on his personal brand right now
Mar 15 14:59:59 <ThickAsThieves>	doing interviews and being a bitcoin jesus
Mar 15 15:00:02 <ZedsterX>	isn't he tied with coinbase somehow also?
Mar 15 15:00:05 <Diablo-D3>	http://bitcointipper.com/index.html
Mar 15 15:00:05 <ThickAsThieves>	could work for him
Mar 15 15:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 "Due to the high number of signups, we will not be able to accept new users."
Mar 15 15:00:37 <mircea_popescu>	sweet.
Mar 15 15:00:59 <ThickAsThieves>	gtg to a meeting ttyl
Mar 15 15:01:01 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX is he ?
Mar 15 15:01:13 <ZedsterX>	voorhees
Mar 15 15:02:29 <ZedsterX>	oh you were asking me? :P
Mar 15 15:02:55 <ZedsterX>	i wanna say coinbase or something like that...heck what do i know
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Mar 15 15:04:25 <ZedsterX>	ahhh it's BitInstant
Mar 15 15:04:26 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
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Mar 15 15:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	i mean it's a small community, pretty much everyone knows everyone, but otherwise...
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Mar 15 15:09:33 <ZedsterX>	mircea_popescu: your in europe right?
Mar 15 15:16:07 <kakobrekla>	all the cool kids are.
Mar 15 15:16:34 <ZedsterX>	hehe
Mar 15 15:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 15 15:18:06 <ZedsterX>	so why is there no BitInstant equivalent in EU? or do some countries? IE go to a store and pay cash for BTC instantly. I know Denmark doesn't
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Mar 15 15:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX bitcoin-central.net is much better
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Mar 15 15:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	you transfer funds to them isntantly and get bitcoin. sepa zone only, but miles ahead of mtgox and all the rest.
Mar 15 15:20:03 <mircea_popescu>	and they're properly registered (which nobody else is)
Mar 15 15:20:22 <ZedsterX>	sepa is not instant
Mar 15 15:20:54 <ZedsterX>	if i sepa from my online bank its queued for up to 24 hours
Mar 15 15:20:57 <kakobrekla>	another reason why bitcoin is 50.
Mar 15 15:21:38 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 15 15:21:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.85111, Best ask: 46.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.13889, Last trade: 46.99000, 24 hour volume: 18791.39020569, 24 hour low: 46.35000, 24 hour high: 47.47999, 24 hour vwap: 47.08453
Mar 15 15:21:44 <ThickAsThieves>	meeting cancelled, yay
Mar 15 15:21:46 <ZedsterX>	and a $7 charge
Mar 15 15:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX i know it's specified as "up to 24 hours" but in practice i've yet not had a transfer not be instant.
Mar 15 15:23:14 <ZedsterX>	sweet i will check it out ..only business days though right?
Mar 15 15:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	well yes
Mar 15 15:23:42 <ZedsterX>	just checking i can hope
Mar 15 15:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, considering what zee american folk put up with the weeks of mtgox/coinlab/etc...
Mar 15 15:26:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i sent campbx a check monday last week
Mar 15 15:26:15 <ThickAsThieves>	they are a 6-hr drive from me
Mar 15 15:26:23 <ThickAsThieves>	still no deposit :/
Mar 15 15:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	typical horror story.
Mar 15 15:28:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00545 = 0.109 BTC [+]
Mar 15 15:28:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00545 = 0.06 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 15:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153444.0 mebbe your plate.
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Mar 15 15:37:41 <Ukto>	thanks
Mar 15 15:37:47 <ThickAsThieves>	not sure if this is a silly question, but in BTCT's Analysis area, when i sell a share, which value does it use to determine the value of that one share if I paid various prices and own many?
Mar 15 15:38:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.79 = 7.11 BTC [+]
Mar 15 15:38:49 <mircea_popescu>	your cost basis would be logical.
Mar 15 15:39:40 <ThickAsThieves>	so it would take the amount i sold it for, subtract from the total current value and divide by whats left to give me my average
Mar 15 15:39:52 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Mar 15 15:39:53 <ThickAsThieves>	effectiveky
Mar 15 15:39:59 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Mar 15 15:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	you buy shares q1..q2 at prices p1...p2.
Mar 15 15:40:29 <mircea_popescu>	this aggregates into a qt, pt pair which is qt = sum qi ; pt = sum pi *qi / sum qi
Mar 15 15:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	when you sell a share it counts it at pt.
Mar 15 15:41:26 <ThickAsThieves>	got it
Mar 15 15:41:37 <mircea_popescu>	course, i'm just saying it'd be logical... have no idea how they actually do it.
Mar 15 15:41:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i was asking both sides kinda
Mar 15 15:41:56 <kakobrekla>	philosoraptor if pi 3.14, qi is 6.28?
Mar 15 15:42:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i know only burnside can answer that aspect
Mar 15 15:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 15 15:44:34 <Ukto>	posted, thanks again MP. going back to sleep
Mar 15 15:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	nn
Mar 15 15:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	hm, so how do i find a talented game artist person ;/
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Mar 15 15:45:50 <ChubbyBeavers>	howdy
Mar 15 15:46:10 <jurov>	mircea_popescu u have instant sepa transfers to france? O.o
Mar 15 15:46:21 <ThickAsThieves>	find a game you think has a appropriate art and find out who they worked with
Mar 15 15:46:23 <jurov>	you have osme private bank, no?
Mar 15 15:46:30 <ThickAsThieves>	howdy Chub
Mar 15 15:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	jurov shit i said too much huh
Mar 15 15:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves that's an idea actually.
Mar 15 15:47:26 <ThickAsThieves>	is it illustrations or pixel work?
Mar 15 15:47:35 <ThickAsThieves>	or 2d rendering stuff?
Mar 15 15:47:38 <ThickAsThieves>	3d*
Mar 15 15:47:46 <mircea_popescu>	illustrations.
Mar 15 15:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	basically, game cards.
Mar 15 15:47:53 <ThickAsThieves>	ha!
Mar 15 15:47:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i was gonna say
Mar 15 15:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	wha ?
Mar 15 15:47:57 <jurov>	ZedsterX, i have to wait 1-2 days. but the fee is 20 cents at most, no problem
Mar 15 15:48:00 <ThickAsThieves>	look at MTG artists
Mar 15 15:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	whossat ?
Mar 15 15:48:10 <ThickAsThieves>	lotsa good ones with decent rates
Mar 15 15:48:11 <mircea_popescu>	(mp only fucks aritsts, doesn't know any)
Mar 15 15:48:14 <ThickAsThieves>	Magic The Gathering
Mar 15 15:48:33 <mircea_popescu>	is there a forum or somfin' ?
Mar 15 15:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	 jobsite ?
Mar 15 15:48:47 <ThickAsThieves>	dunno about that,
Mar 15 15:48:57 <ThickAsThieves>	but you can browse card art pretty easily
Mar 15 15:49:03 <ThickAsThieves>	and they all say the artist name on the card
Mar 15 15:49:10 <ThickAsThieves>	and each artist typically has a website
Mar 15 15:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	you know this is pretty sweet an idea. thanks thicksy
Mar 15 15:49:23 <ThickAsThieves>	np
Mar 15 15:49:23 <smickles>	anyone here have a windows machine, an mpex account and a willingness to see if my mpex gui windows package will work on their system?
Mar 15 15:49:31 <ThickAsThieves>	there are also less popular games
Mar 15 15:49:36 <ThickAsThieves>	with just as good art
Mar 15 15:49:43 <jurov>	smickles i have
Mar 15 15:49:44 <ThickAsThieves>	those artists might be cheaper
Mar 15 15:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	i don't really mind paying something reasonable.
Mar 15 15:50:04 <kakobrekla>	send it over smickles
Mar 15 15:50:07 <smickles>	alright jurov, i'll setup a link to the file and pm it to ya
Mar 15 15:50:31 *	Namworld points to everyone to beware of smickles who will still private keys and said MPEx accounts.
Mar 15 15:50:34 <jurov>	i have only xp here. guess kako has sth better
Mar 15 15:50:42 <Namworld>	Just joking. Nice to see a GUI being made.
Mar 15 15:50:50 <jurov>	so we can both test
Mar 15 15:50:55 <Doffx>	mpex account still 50 btc?
Mar 15 15:51:05 <Namworld>	Wasn't it 30 BTC?
Mar 15 15:51:06 <jurov>	Doffx: no, 90
Mar 15 15:51:09 <Doffx>	lol
Mar 15 15:51:35 <jurov>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#17
Mar 15 15:51:44 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, http://tnielsen.com/
Mar 15 15:51:56 <ThickAsThieves>	she's pretty venerable in the MTG world
Mar 15 15:52:14 <Doffx>	Looks like 30
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Mar 15 15:52:50 <ThickAsThieves>	this guy is dope too http://www.rkaneproductions.com/
Mar 15 15:53:10 <ThickAsThieves>	comic book artists is another idea
Mar 15 15:53:16 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll stop now :)
Mar 15 15:53:32 <Namworld>	You need an account Doffx? =/
Mar 15 15:53:48 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld still ?
Mar 15 15:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx 30 yet
Mar 15 15:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	Contact Us / FAQ. If you have a questions not answered below, please complete the Contact Information form below and we will contact you as soon as possible.
Mar 15 15:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	heh. i'll pass.
Mar 15 15:55:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
Mar 15 15:55:21 <Doffx>	No, I do not Namworld.
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Mar 15 16:10:48 <jborkl>	smicklies, i can give it a try also
Mar 15 16:10:55 <jborkl>	smickles
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Mar 15 16:16:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00545 = 0.0109 BTC [+]
Mar 15 16:19:13 <jurov>	moment, he has to redo it... unpacked it, the win directory was full with .so files and ELF binaries :D
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Mar 15 16:39:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11606 @ 0.00073181 = 8.4934 BTC [+]
Mar 15 16:39:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7714 @ 0.00073435 = 5.6648 BTC [+]
Mar 15 16:49:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1475 @ 0.0058822 = 8.6762 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 16:52:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 586 @ 0.00073435 = 0.4303 BTC [+]
Mar 15 16:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00073667 = 1.0313 BTC [+]
Mar 15 16:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7939 @ 0.0007407 = 5.8804 BTC [+]
Mar 15 16:52:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8594 @ 0.00074616 = 6.4125 BTC [+]
Mar 15 16:52:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00076706 = 0.7671 BTC [+]
Mar 15 16:52:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 481 @ 0.00076717 = 0.369 BTC [+]
Mar 15 16:53:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.79 = 11.85 BTC [+]
Mar 15 16:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.55 = 3.85 BTC [-]
Mar 15 16:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5311 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 17:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	anyone doing store gift stuff for btc anymore ?
Mar 15 17:06:17 <ChubbyBeavers>	i normally convert to amazon these days
Mar 15 17:06:25 <ChubbyBeavers>	can get almost everything on amazon
Mar 15 17:07:12 *	ChubbyBeavers is now known as jcpham
Mar 15 17:07:12 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, doesnt bitmit have those?
Mar 15 17:07:14 <ThickAsThieves>	or SR
Mar 15 17:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	i want trader joe;'s specifically
Mar 15 17:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i have no idea tbh
Mar 15 17:08:00 <jcpham>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153453.0;topicseen
Mar 15 17:08:03 <jcpham>	^ mircea_popescu
Mar 15 17:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i like dt's reply
Mar 15 17:09:07 <jcpham>	ya me too
Mar 15 17:09:33 <jcpham>	what causes people to share that much info with strangers
Mar 15 17:10:15 <mircea_popescu>	boredom.
Mar 15 17:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	i think you underestimate just how empty the average life is.
Mar 15 17:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	notwithstanding midnightmagic's copacetic delusions, the majority of the population lives confined to a vinyl siding box with a lcd screen in it. that's all, all day long, weeks after weeks after weeks.
Mar 15 17:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	just... empty nothing.
Mar 15 17:11:38 <jcpham>	i mostly just masterbate
Mar 15 17:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	master bait ?
Mar 15 17:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	master bathe ?
Mar 15 17:12:42 <jcpham>	no i put my hand on my cock
Mar 15 17:12:59 <jcpham>	and move it around a lot until i orgasm
Mar 15 17:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	o urcock. with an u :D
Mar 15 17:13:07 <jcpham>	try it sometime
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Mar 15 17:13:32 <skytrader_>	hi everyone. Is btc-e down?
Mar 15 17:13:34 <jcpham>	i'm lying, I've never masterbated in my life
Mar 15 17:14:06 <mircea_popescu>	im wrapped up too tight.
Mar 15 17:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	hi skytrader_ we dunno. is it ?
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Mar 15 17:14:54 <skytrader_>	I can go to www.btc-e.com but I can't load any other page
Mar 15 17:15:18 <jborkl>	micrea-popescu, I do not know how you don't strangle puppies after IRC
Mar 15 17:15:29 <jborkl>	or BCT
Mar 15 17:15:30 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl cause i cut up rabbits.
Mar 15 17:15:41 <jborkl>	oh, well -I see
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Mar 15 17:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.bitinstant.com/
Mar 15 17:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	Could not connect to remote server
Mar 15 17:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	am i alone ?
Mar 15 17:22:25 <Namworld>	yes
Mar 15 17:22:42 <Namworld>	I hope it's not too lonely out there.
Mar 15 17:22:57 <jurov>	so, bitcoins end up being considered gateway drug and banned thus? funny
Mar 15 17:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ?
Mar 15 17:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	Hmm, www.bitinstant.com isn't loading right now.
Mar 15 17:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	The computers that run www.bitinstant.com are having some trouble. Usually this is just a temporary problem, so you might want to try again in a few minutes.
Mar 15 17:23:28 <jborkl>	butterfly labs getting ddos
Mar 15 17:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	dude its not even resolving
Mar 15 17:23:39 <jurov>	saw that thead... guy wanted to invest, lost all to sdice
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Mar 15 17:24:11 <jurov>	oh, why nobody told him to buy s.dice stock? must fix.
Mar 15 17:25:54 <Namworld>	Would be funny that BFL never delivers...
Mar 15 17:26:06 <jborkl>	he thought he would invest in less than 1
Mar 15 17:26:25 <ThickAsThieves>	bitinstant.com Error 21 (net::ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED): Unknown error.
Mar 15 17:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld http://browsershots.org/https://www.bitinstant.com/
Mar 15 17:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	it's mostly not loading.
Mar 15 17:26:35 <mircea_popescu>	i think they're getting da ddos.
Mar 15 17:26:47 <Namworld>	oh. I only tried once but it loaded
Mar 15 17:26:53 <Namworld>	DDoS possibly, yeah
Mar 15 17:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	you prolly rode the storm
Mar 15 17:26:58 <ThickAsThieves>	loads now
Mar 15 17:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves if you look there, it loaded for like 2% of the browsers. typical ddos sympthom
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Mar 15 17:29:49 <Namworld>	I'll assume someone manipulated the price, sold a bunch near 30-50 and his now trying to impact Bitcoin negatively. But only because I don't like the idea someone would do it for entertainment purposes/spite.
Mar 15 17:30:20 <Namworld>	I refresh but it loads in like 0.25 seconds here each time.
Mar 15 17:30:24 <Namworld>	Odd.
Mar 15 17:30:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.837898 = 8.379 BTC [+]
Mar 15 17:31:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.837899 = 8.379 BTC [+]
Mar 15 17:31:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.83799 = 3.352 BTC [+]
Mar 15 17:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	interesting.
Mar 15 17:32:12 <Anduck>	wtf
Mar 15 17:32:18 <Anduck>	asicminer is so overrated
Mar 15 17:32:19 <Anduck>	xD
Mar 15 17:32:24 <Anduck>	0.84 for a share
Mar 15 17:32:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.005199 = 0.0104 BTC [+]
Mar 15 17:32:26 <Anduck>	kidneys?
Mar 15 17:32:36 <Anduck>	(those were my shares that got sold btw=
Mar 15 17:32:56 <Namworld>	I could have had 2k if mircea hadn't borrowed them to short long ago xD
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Mar 15 17:33:25 <jcpham>	taking the pools offline at the same time and solomining is probably the most profitable thing you can do
Mar 15 17:33:37 <jcpham>	seems like no one is trying that anymore
Mar 15 17:33:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol ya that didn't work too well huh.
Mar 15 17:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham how does that work ? spend a week on a block ?
Mar 15 17:34:22 <jcpham>	well back when things were simpler...
Mar 15 17:34:31 <Namworld>	oddly enough, A good idea it would appear, but you'd need people to stick to those pools for like a whole difficulty to bring it down.
Mar 15 17:34:43 <Namworld>	They'd probably all switch to solo
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Mar 15 17:35:06 <jcpham>	you don't need a terahash
Mar 15 17:38:18 <Anduck>	so umm
Mar 15 17:38:25 <Anduck>	what do you guys think of ASICMINER share value?
Mar 15 17:38:30 <Anduck>	i think it's way high...
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Mar 15 17:39:53 <Namworld>	Some think it's undervalued... idk
Mar 15 17:45:16 <ThickAsThieves>	if the asic release climate remains unchanged, other than asicminer getting 60TH online
Mar 15 17:45:20 <ThickAsThieves>	its grossly undervalued
Mar 15 17:46:30 <ThickAsThieves>	but obv Luke Jr will save the day for BFL, he's our HeeRo right?
Mar 15 17:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves so far avalons seem to be dominating hashing
Mar 15 17:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	judging by how unknowns have shrunk the asicminer pools
Mar 15 17:47:44 <ThickAsThieves>	are they i havent been keeping up i guess
Mar 15 17:48:07 <ThickAsThieves>	do they mostly use ozcoin?
Mar 15 17:48:15 <ThickAsThieves>	oh wait
Mar 15 17:48:19 <ThickAsThieves>	you said uknowns
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Mar 15 17:49:28 <jborkl>	300 units by 68- should be about 20 th from avalon- depending on what is delivered
Mar 15 17:49:31 <tiberiusiv>	unknows are like 55-60% of the pool now
Mar 15 17:49:45 <jborkl>	network is at 39 th
Mar 15 17:49:47 <tiberiusiv>	how many avalons are already out?
Mar 15 17:50:19 <jborkl>	how much is asicminer supposed to be?
Mar 15 17:50:27 <jborkl>	how many th
Mar 15 17:51:32 <ThickAsThieves>	asic is at 6th i think
Mar 15 17:51:36 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer
Mar 15 17:52:07 <jborkl>	6th from am- 10 from avalon and the 24 we had before
Mar 15 17:52:15 <jborkl>	seems about right
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Mar 15 17:52:56 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
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Mar 15 17:52:58 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226060 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1747 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 13 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 5828967.64264 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.24323
Mar 15 17:53:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i think there are some other factors to consider re stock values that people aret considering,
Mar 15 17:53:17 <ThickAsThieves>	that we are spoiled at current interest rates
Mar 15 17:53:28 <ThickAsThieves>	which will get squeezed to be smaller over time
Mar 15 17:53:43 <ThickAsThieves>	and which assets will be most resilient to that
Mar 15 17:54:00 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer? sdice?
Mar 15 17:54:13 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves: how they will get squeezed?
Mar 15 17:54:22 <ThickAsThieves>	more investors
Mar 15 17:54:36 <ThickAsThieves>	more money being invested overall
Mar 15 17:54:43 <jurov>	yes, dramatic price increase then... and that's bad thing?
Mar 15 17:55:29 <ThickAsThieves>	today i can be picky and say and choose from stuff that pays 1%, 2%, 5% per month
Mar 15 17:55:50 <ThickAsThieves>	but thats so high in the scheme of things
Mar 15 17:56:08 <ThickAsThieves>	or should i say, compared to wall st
Mar 15 17:56:13 <ThickAsThieves>	and banks
Mar 15 17:56:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00672 BTC [-]
Mar 15 17:57:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.006711 BTC [-]
Mar 15 17:57:24 <tiberiusiv>	rates will decline on bitcoin investments
Mar 15 17:58:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000674 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
Mar 15 17:58:54 <jurov>	As long as whole thing remains unregulated, there will be new HYIPs, some even legit.
Mar 15 17:59:38 <tiberiusiv>	without taxes + reg burdens most stock market dividends would be 30-80% higher then they are today
Mar 15 17:59:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Mar 15 18:00:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00988 BTC [-]
Mar 15 18:00:51 <ThickAsThieves>	i do think you have to be at least a little bit of a day trader and btc enuthusiast to have a chance of keeping up
Mar 15 18:01:23 <tiberiusiv>	daytrading is no different then playing satoshi dice
Mar 15 18:01:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009861 = 0.0493 BTC [-]
Mar 15 18:01:36 <Anduck>	yes if you're bad at it XD
Mar 15 18:01:52 <ThickAsThieves>	tiberiusv thats an overstatement
Mar 15 18:01:55 <ThickAsThieves>	yes it is risky
Mar 15 18:02:04 <ThickAsThieves>	but there are clear ways to profit
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Mar 15 18:03:20 <jborkl>	anduck, good job on moving your shares
Mar 15 18:03:26 <burnside>	<ThickAsThieves> not sure if this is a silly question, but in BTCT's Analysis area, when i sell a share, which value does it use to determine the value of that one share if I paid various prices and own many?
Mar 15 18:03:45 <Anduck>	jborkl: been doing it and i am successing on it
Mar 15 18:03:46 <Anduck>	=)
Mar 15 18:04:07 <burnside>	it works by taking the share count you currently have, and working backwards in your trade history figures out the weighted average purchase price for the shares you're currently holding
Mar 15 18:04:09 <jborkl>	good timing
Mar 15 18:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/boys-and-girls-i-got-news-were-being-probed/
Mar 15 18:04:36 <ThickAsThieves>	so it essentially subtracts one averaged unit
Mar 15 18:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	i'd appreciate if anyone puts that up on reddit/wherever, distributes it
Mar 15 18:05:08 <ThickAsThieves>	(and once before in January but that didn’t much at all),
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Mar 15 18:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves so he does it exactly as described, by cost basis
Mar 15 18:05:27 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Mar 15 18:05:33 <ThickAsThieves>	mp ^ typo
Mar 15 18:06:06 <burnside>	yup
Mar 15 18:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	ty!
Mar 15 18:08:02 <ThickAsThieves>	i didnt really think about how BTC-e was probably the same crew
Mar 15 18:08:07 <ThickAsThieves>	doing the ddos
Mar 15 18:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, i just added everything that came to mind there to see what people say
Mar 15 18:08:20 <ThickAsThieves>	way more likely than nvc-haters
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Mar 15 18:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5311 BTC [-]
Mar 15 18:10:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5311 BTC [-]
Mar 15 18:10:07 <ThickAsThieves>	all this probing, surely theyd have explored some holes
Mar 15 18:10:40 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe they are identifyng all weaknesses in btc world
Mar 15 18:10:51 <ThickAsThieves>	to manipulate things
Mar 15 18:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i think it's just doing the ddos part.
Mar 15 18:10:56 <jborkl>	Asicminer quick back of the napkin - 4400 approx blocks per month * 25.2 = 110880 BTC month / percentage of network asicminer has 15.3% = 16964 BTC
Mar 15 18:11:00 <ThickAsThieves>	pass the foil hat plz
Mar 15 18:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	you will always make some assumptions when casing a joint.
Mar 15 18:13:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19797 BTC [+]
Mar 15 18:13:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19798 BTC [+]
Mar 15 18:18:26 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer hasnt really been giving any detailed financials have they?
Mar 15 18:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	not rly no.
Mar 15 18:22:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00889 BTC [+]
Mar 15 18:34:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.00999 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Mar 15 18:35:09 <error4733>	.pool
Mar 15 18:37:00 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 15 18:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0058822 / 0.00591811 / 0.00599963 (2125 shares, 12.58 BTC), 7D: 0.005 / 0.00576462 / 0.006 (52089 shares, 300.27 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00613678 / 0.0069 (2362489 shares, 14,498.08 BTC)
Mar 15 18:37:48 <jurov>	lol double paranoia: "look who retained access to the sites under attack"
Mar 15 18:38:33 <jurov>	but there was no major movement on mpex during the attack iirc
Mar 15 18:38:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00074934 = 4.6084 BTC [-]
Mar 15 18:39:31 <jurov>	or dunno, maybe they attacked the server to stole all the pics from /dtng ?
Mar 15 18:40:16 <ThickAsThieves>	WTS dtng photo library
Mar 15 18:41:24 <jurov>	btw in roughly the same timeframe, sites of several czech banks got ddosed
Mar 15 18:41:37 <jurov>	ofc, they did not reveal parameters
Mar 15 18:42:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i blame the russians
Mar 15 18:42:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8 = 8 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 18:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ya i just answered
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Mar 15 18:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	jurov hm. got some newslinks or anything ?
Mar 15 18:44:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 362 @ 0.000707 = 0.2559 BTC [+]
Mar 15 18:44:57 <jurov>	http://www.zive.sk/hackeri-napadli-weby-ceskych-bank-problemy-maju-i-slovenske-doplnene/sc-4-a-307515/default.aspx
Mar 15 18:45:07 <jurov>	(should translate)
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Mar 15 18:45:57 <jurov>	http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sk&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sk&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zive.sk%2Fhackeri-napadli-weby-ceskych-bank-problemy-maju-i-slovenske-doplnene%2Fsc-4-a-307515%2Fdefault.aspx
Mar 15 18:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	Original article today at 12:10: Hackers attacked this morning website of Czech banks reported Novinky.cz server.
Mar 15 18:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Mar 15 18:47:30 <Bowjob>	We seem to have stabilized
Mar 15 18:47:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00075288 = 0.9035 BTC [+]
Mar 15 18:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00073207 = 0.7321 BTC [-]
Mar 15 18:51:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00073206 = 2.9648 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 19:00:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 1000 @ 0.06560726 = 65.6073 BTC [-]
Mar 15 19:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0055 = 11 BTC [-]
Mar 15 19:01:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 1000 @ 0.08473237 = 84.7324 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 19:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	bitbet over 4k btc bet! yay.
Mar 15 19:04:48 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/
Mar 15 19:04:50 <Bowjob>	Wow
Mar 15 19:04:53 <Bowjob>	HOly shit. ahhahahahah
Mar 15 19:05:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol wut ?!
Mar 15 19:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	don't tell me they;ve moved to july ?
Mar 15 19:05:52 <Bowjob>	theres the april one, then theres a july one
Mar 15 19:05:52 <Bowjob>	Lol
Mar 15 19:06:02 <Bowjob>	Avalon looks so good right now
Mar 15 19:08:08 <pigeons>	except for all the lying
Mar 15 19:08:30 <pigeons>	"we lie much less than bfl!"
Mar 15 19:11:45 <deadweasel>	lol pigeons
Mar 15 19:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob josh-zerlan.com
Mar 15 19:12:22 <kakobrekla>	are you saying they are lying about lying
Mar 15 19:12:30 <kakobrekla>	so they really are lying more than bfl?
Mar 15 19:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	they're not telling the truth about telling the lie!
Mar 15 19:13:07 <ThickAsThieves>	more ddos with a bonus gift http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/15/4109568/cyber-blogger-brian-krebs-ddos-attack-police-raid
Mar 15 19:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	great to not live in the us.
Mar 15 19:14:34 <tiberiusiv>	where at the bitbet statements?
Mar 15 19:14:38 <tiberiusiv>	are*
Mar 15 19:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv bitbet.us search bfl
Mar 15 19:15:21 <tiberiusiv>	i mean the financial statements for the stock
Mar 15 19:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	a
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Mar 15 19:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/bitbet-february-2013-statement
Mar 15 19:15:55 <kakobrekla>	i thought they were on josh-zerlan.com
Mar 15 19:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/bitbet-january-2013-statement
Mar 15 19:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/sbbet-its-happening
Mar 15 19:16:35 <kakobrekla>	oh nvm i misread.
Mar 15 19:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla http://en.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1adogi/josh_zerlan_ftw/
Mar 15 19:17:09 <tiberiusiv>	and the prospectus please
Mar 15 19:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 750 @ 0.06557816 = 49.1836 BTC [-]
Mar 15 19:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 1000 @ 0.0847004 = 84.7004 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 19:17:22 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET
Mar 15 19:17:37 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 15 19:17:47 <Bowjob>	someone needs to own up. who was mr 500 BTC
Mar 15 19:20:54 <tiberiusiv>	so bitbet is currently valued at 18100 BTC
Mar 15 19:21:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00588217 BTC [+]
Mar 15 19:21:09 <Bowjob>	MP, you should switch the math question around
Mar 15 19:21:24 <Bowjob>	36 can be exploited
Mar 15 19:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Mar 15 19:22:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00181 / 0.00181 / 0.00181 (200 shares, 0.36 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00178945 / 0.00197 (104708 shares, 187.37 BTC)
Mar 15 19:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv something like that roughly speaking
Mar 15 19:22:47 <tiberiusiv>	300 p/e ratio based on the first 2 months
Mar 15 19:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.98 = 3.96 BTC [-]
Mar 15 19:23:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 27 @ 1.999 = 53.973 BTC [+]
Mar 15 19:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	what did it make so far, like 12 ?
Mar 15 19:23:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 144 / 180
Mar 15 19:23:24 <gribble>	0.8
Mar 15 19:23:48 <mircea_popescu>	a my bad, it's half that. like .4
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Mar 15 19:24:56 <tiberiusiv>	housebets are bets the house is offering?
Mar 15 19:25:06 <tiberiusiv>	or participating in
Mar 15 19:25:13 <Bowjob>	bfl is down
Mar 15 19:25:16 <Bowjob>	the website
Mar 15 19:25:27 <Bowjob>	https://www.butterflylabs.com/
Mar 15 19:25:30 <Bowjob>	uh oh
Mar 15 19:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv with every new bet, the house will split .1 btc (or more) among yes/no
Mar 15 19:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	and link the submitter's address to the lower amt.
Mar 15 19:26:09 <Bowjob>	hey mp, if the lower amount loses, you lose the bet too?
Mar 15 19:26:32 <tiberiusiv>	mircea_popescu: isnt it structued like intrade?
Mar 15 19:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Mar 15 19:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob what do you mean ?
Mar 15 19:27:23 <Bowjob>	Their website seems down on my end
Mar 15 19:27:27 <Bowjob>	Though their forums work
Mar 15 19:27:33 <Bowjob>	ddos, maybe
Mar 15 19:27:42 <Bowjob>	http://butterflylabs.com/
Mar 15 19:27:46 <Bowjob>	does it work for anyone else?
Mar 15 19:27:51 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: so lets say i place a bet, what does the house do?
Mar 15 19:28:23 <tiberiusiv>	how does the house set the odds
Mar 15 19:28:49 <Bowjob>	the house doesn't set the odds. ..
Mar 15 19:29:03 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv the admin that aprpoves your bet also splits the .1 pot
Mar 15 19:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	like 0.07/0.03 or w/e
Mar 15 19:29:33 <tiberiusiv>	so is it possible the house can ever have a major loss
Mar 15 19:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	how ?
Mar 15 19:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	it can lose at most something like 0.09 per bet
Mar 15 19:30:27 <tiberiusiv>	is there anywhere i can read how this is structured?
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Mar 15 19:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	well... the faq ?
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Mar 15 19:31:49 <jurov>	https://twitter.com/blockchain/status/311591961268215809 oh they were ddosed too?
Mar 15 19:32:33 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yes
Mar 15 19:34:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/boys-and-girls-i-got-news-were-being-probed/#comment-92347
Mar 15 19:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	nice cloudfail.
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Mar 15 19:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	also http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/132126780642.jpg
Mar 15 19:35:27 <ThickAsThieves>	flat ass
Mar 15 19:36:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 17 @ 0.00545 = 0.0927 BTC [+]
Mar 15 19:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-collider/9929535/Higgs-boson-scientists-confident-they-have-discovered-the-God-particle.html
Mar 15 19:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	basically the god particle looks like a mushroom on mushrooms.
Mar 15 19:37:02 <ThickAsThieves>	but what is the god particle made of?
Mar 15 19:37:07 <ThickAsThieves>	and who made it?
Mar 15 19:38:07 <Bowjob>	satoshi obv
Mar 15 19:38:35 <ThickAsThieves>	what does god particle pay in divs?
Mar 15 19:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Mar 15 19:39:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i come in here with questions and you guys just act mean
Mar 15 19:39:37 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 15 19:39:58 <jurov>	i was hoping for something useful... like micro black holes
Mar 15 19:40:15 <jurov>	or neutrinos exceeding speed of lights
Mar 15 19:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	micro black holes ain't happenin'.
Mar 15 19:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	aite, i[m out,. take care all.
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Mar 15 19:41:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00525 = 0.105 BTC [-]
Mar 15 19:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 2 = 20 BTC [+]
Mar 15 19:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2 BTC [+]
Mar 15 19:44:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.00071 = 0.0852 BTC [+]
Mar 15 19:44:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00073207 = 0.7321 BTC [+]
Mar 15 19:44:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00073206 = 3.5505 BTC [-]
Mar 15 19:44:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00072837 = 4.1517 BTC [-]
Mar 15 19:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1056 @ 0.00072491 = 0.7655 BTC [-]
Mar 15 19:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10594 @ 0.0007249 = 7.6796 BTC [-]
Mar 15 19:49:01 <tiberiusiv>	if bitcoins are sent to an incorrect adress do they get sent back to you
Mar 15 19:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 2 = 10 BTC [+]
Mar 15 19:50:35 <kakobrekla>	no
Mar 15 19:50:43 <leotreasure>	no but if the address is incorrect in that it doesn't conform to the standard it wont let you send them
Mar 15 19:50:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
Mar 15 20:13:57 <tiberiusiv>	dont you guys think that voorhees is going to get into trouble with satoshi dice?
Mar 15 20:14:40 <tiberiusiv>	hes running the chip cash in service(bitinstant) as well lol
Mar 15 20:15:02 <Bowjob>	he might get jailed yes
Mar 15 20:15:10 <Bowjob>	i assume someone will take over dice
Mar 15 20:17:29 <toffoo>	tiberiusiv: there's actually no way to get cash (USD) out of bitinstant that I know of
Mar 15 20:17:51 <tiberiusiv>	yes but bitinstant is pretty much a cash in service for satoshi dice
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Mar 15 20:18:34 <tiberiusiv>	and voorhees is involved in both while residing in the US
Mar 15 20:18:35 <tiberiusiv>	lol
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Mar 15 20:31:09 <kakobrekla>	etoro : Sure, buy and sell as a CFD. hope i understood your question
Mar 15 20:31:16 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 15 20:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.585 = 1.17 BTC [+]
Mar 15 20:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00074933 = 0.5995 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 20:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00075417 = 6.6744 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 20:58:14 <Chaang-Noi>	hi all
Mar 15 20:58:48 <pigeons>	i like your new site goat
Mar 15 20:59:21 <Chaang-Noi>	what?
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Mar 15 21:00:21 <pigeons>	http://atlantisrky4es5q.onion
Mar 15 21:00:42 <pigeons>	silk road for litecoins
Mar 15 21:00:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah but man, that is not mine!
Mar 15 21:01:00 <pigeons>	oh right
Mar 15 21:01:01 <pigeons>	shhhh
Mar 15 21:01:06 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 15 21:01:08 <pigeons>	;)
Mar 15 21:01:12 <pigeons>	just kididng
Mar 15 21:01:18 <Chaang-Noi>	i hear it is pretty well done
Mar 15 21:01:30 <Chaang-Noi>	not have time to check it out though
Mar 15 21:01:36 <Chaang-Noi>	had*
Mar 15 21:01:51 <pigeons>	its bootstrap
Mar 15 21:02:08 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Mar 15 21:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00075417 = 0.7165 BTC [+]
Mar 15 21:02:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4146 @ 0.00073927 = 3.065 BTC [-]
Mar 15 21:02:20 <Chaang-Noi>	oh asicminer went up a bit
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Mar 15 21:03:01 <Chaang-Noi>	i think ltc really has a solid chance
Mar 15 21:03:26 <Chaang-Noi>	wish i did not sell somuch at .001 lol
Mar 15 21:07:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.341 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 21:09:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 21:14:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00075732 = 2.5749 BTC [+]
Mar 15 21:14:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00076717 = 0.0161 BTC [+]
Mar 15 21:14:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5079 @ 0.00076718 = 3.8965 BTC [+]
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Mar 15 21:27:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00075304 = 3.5769 BTC [-]
Mar 15 21:29:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22262 @ 0.00075304 = 16.7642 BTC [-]
Mar 15 21:29:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4188 @ 0.00074821 = 3.1335 BTC [-]
Mar 15 21:33:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.8 = 7.2 BTC [-]
Mar 15 21:33:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83799 BTC [+]
Mar 15 21:33:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.838997 = 8.39 BTC [+]
Mar 15 21:33:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.838998 = 8.39 BTC [+]
Mar 15 21:33:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.839 = 9.229 BTC [+]
Mar 15 21:33:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 0.849 = 14.433 BTC [+]
Mar 15 21:35:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849 BTC [+]
Mar 15 21:37:44 <Chaang-Noi>	up up up :)
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Mar 15 21:50:42 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 15 21:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0055 / 0.00571543 / 0.00599963 (4126 shares, 23.58 BTC), 7D: 0.005 / 0.00575484 / 0.006 (54090 shares, 311.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00613624 / 0.0069 (2364370 shares, 14,508.35 BTC)
Mar 15 21:58:19 <tiberiusiv>	!ticker mpex s.mpoe
Mar 15 21:58:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00071102 / 0.00073864 / 0.00076718 (163012 shares, 120.41 BTC), 7D: 0.00067638 / 0.00074613 / 0.00076718 (602809 shares, 449.77 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069778 / 0.00078628 (41985211 shares, 29,296.71 BTC)
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Mar 15 22:00:08 <tiberiusiv>	!ticker mpex s.bbet
Mar 15 22:00:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00181 / 0.00181 / 0.00181 (200 shares, 0.36 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00178945 / 0.00197 (104708 shares, 187.37 BTC)
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Mar 15 22:11:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 15 22:11:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.96184, Best ask: 46.98999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02815, Last trade: 46.96184, 24 hour volume: 21123.11456865, 24 hour low: 46.40000, 24 hour high: 47.44999, 24 hour vwap: 47.00495
Mar 15 22:12:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 15 22:12:30 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226085 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1722 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 4 hours, 32 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 5717512.73022 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.94408
Mar 15 22:17:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.00071 = 0.0071 BTC [+]
Mar 15 22:19:26 <Namworld>	BTCTC passthrough are somewhat low.
Mar 15 22:19:38 <Namworld>	They didn't hold so well through the DDoS
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Mar 15 22:34:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 10 @ 0.0343 = 0.343 BTC [+]
Mar 15 22:34:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 15 @ 0.0341 = 0.5115 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:34:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 10 @ 0.0301 = 0.301 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:35:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 18 @ 0.021 = 0.378 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:35:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14501 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:35:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:36:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.13002 = 0.3901 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:36:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:36:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.115 = 0.345 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:36:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1111 = 0.3333 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:37:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.08002 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:37:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 76 @ 0.08001 = 6.0808 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:37:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00521 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:38:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.00512 = 0.0154 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:38:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00505 = 0.0101 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:38:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.0049 = 0.049 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:38:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 14 @ 0.00488 = 0.0683 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:39:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.04032 = 0.2016 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:39:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 40 @ 0.04031 = 1.6124 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:39:35 <Namworld>	Looks like someone dumped his BTCTC stocks
Mar 15 22:39:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0392 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 22:40:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 24 @ 0.005 = 0.12 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:42:02 <Chaang-Noi>	oh wow, i need to go ad low ball bids:)
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Mar 15 22:43:19 <Namworld>	none of these were really worth it...
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Mar 15 22:47:40 <parseval>	I think Cognitive looks nice long term
Mar 15 22:48:00 <parseval>	At least, if BFL ever ships..
Mar 15 22:49:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.0501 = 4.2004 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.5353 = 3.7471 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5352 = 1.6056 BTC [-]
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Mar 15 22:53:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.516 = 5.16 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.5152 = 5.6672 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:54:03 <parseval>	I wonder if I can take that .00001 bot for a little ride one of these nights..
Mar 15 22:55:01 <the-bucket-shop>	parseval,  I've seen people here say that got it to chase them for a while
Mar 15 22:58:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00074976 = 12.9708 BTC [+]
Mar 15 22:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00074971 = 15.8189 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2712 @ 0.00074821 = 2.0291 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:58:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9488 @ 0.00074778 = 7.0949 BTC [-]
Mar 15 22:58:25 <parseval>	There must be some cut-off logic in it somewhere, like dropping or raising by too high of a percentage, or being too far away from the price range at X volume.  Finding out where that is could be fun
Mar 15 23:05:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00075552 = 6.9508 BTC [+]
Mar 15 23:07:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
Mar 15 23:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00075552 = 3.2865 BTC [+]
Mar 15 23:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00075593 = 6.123 BTC [+]
Mar 15 23:07:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7016 @ 0.00076718 = 5.3825 BTC [+]
Mar 15 23:09:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.337 BTC [-]
Mar 15 23:12:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849 BTC [+]
Mar 15 23:12:36 <Namworld>	Anyone holding BASIC-MINING?
Mar 15 23:19:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3334 @ 0.00077241 = 2.5752 BTC [+]
Mar 15 23:19:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7927 @ 0.00074778 = 5.9277 BTC [-]
Mar 15 23:19:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1439 @ 0.00074751 = 1.0757 BTC [-]
Mar 15 23:22:26 <Chaang-Noi>	not i
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Mar 15 23:23:16 <Namworld>	One of the thing I'd like to short...
Mar 15 23:23:57 <Chaang-Noi>	want to short asicminer?
Mar 15 23:25:22 <Namworld>	Not sure on that one...
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Mar 15 23:25:36 <Namworld>	I already sold mines at 0.41...
Mar 15 23:25:44 <Namworld>	Not sure how high it can keep raising...
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Mar 15 23:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5200001 = 1.04 BTC [+]
Mar 15 23:44:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold some at .4
Mar 15 23:45:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5021 @ 0.0007487 = 3.7592 BTC [+]
Mar 15 23:51:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3585 @ 0.00074132 = 2.6576 BTC [-]
Mar 15 23:51:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17419 @ 0.00073941 = 12.8798 BTC [-]
Mar 15 23:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5799 @ 0.00073941 = 4.2878 BTC [-]
Mar 15 23:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2824 @ 0.00073927 = 2.0877 BTC [-]
Mar 15 23:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4041 @ 0.00073925 = 2.9873 BTC [-]
Mar 16 00:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.0007352 = 5.8816 BTC [-]
Mar 16 00:06:25 <tiberiusiv>	whats basic-mining?
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Mar 16 00:07:03 <Namworld>	Asic mining stock
Mar 16 00:07:28 <tiberiusiv>	why short it
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Mar 16 00:10:07 <Chaang-Noi>	if they use bASIC or btfl i would short too :)
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Mar 16 00:18:52 <Bowjob>	shit bfl may ship
Mar 16 00:18:52 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 16 00:25:19 <Ukto>	pfft
Mar 16 00:25:20 <Ukto>	may.
Mar 16 00:25:21 <Ukto>	in may.
Mar 16 00:25:57 <Bowjob>	luke jr says so
Mar 16 00:34:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6286 @ 0.0007352 = 4.6215 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 00:37:24 <ThickAsThieves>	whatd luke say?
Mar 16 00:37:55 <pigeons>	ThickAsThieves: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/luke-jr/100-day-2-slight-delay.html
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Mar 16 00:56:17 <ThickAsThieves>	interesting
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Mar 16 00:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00074241 = 1.3363 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 01:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11952 @ 0.00074519 = 8.9065 BTC [+]
Mar 16 01:13:59 <Chaang-Noi>	funny, i bet brfl would ship before april
Mar 16 01:14:13 <Chaang-Noi>	and i had bey soo many times they would fail before, starting in 2011 :)
Mar 16 01:14:43 <Bowjob>	then if they will be shipping.. then why are bfl victims not betting ?
Mar 16 01:15:07 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 16 01:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob by now out of monyz ?
Mar 16 01:15:14 <ThickAsThieves>	cuz bfl has all their money
Mar 16 01:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 16 01:15:22 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 16 01:15:25 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 16 01:15:38 <Bowjob>	thats stupid.. u should not go balls deep
Mar 16 01:16:01 <Chaang-Noi>	balls deep is the only way i play.
Mar 16 01:16:08 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly : the dwindling of bets (especially hedging bets) is clear indication that BFL is about to go bust.
Mar 16 01:16:09 <Chaang-Noi>	but who ever trusted bfl lulz
Mar 16 01:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	ie, there is no more btc available to finance them.
Mar 16 01:16:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i think bfl will shit this month or next
Mar 16 01:16:43 <Bowjob>	id be pissed off if they increase the TH to 800
Mar 16 01:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi that's what the bet volumes would seem to indicate.
Mar 16 01:16:47 <Bowjob>	without my avalon
Mar 16 01:16:47 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 16 01:16:49 <Bowjob>	then ill be sad
Mar 16 01:16:50 <Chaang-Noi>	however i think it will take a while to get their 5000 ships out
Mar 16 01:17:05 <mircea_popescu>	no, not ship. shit.
Mar 16 01:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	as in, go meet the pirate.
Mar 16 01:17:45 <Chaang-Noi>	5000 chips is only like 30th right? asicminer with 60 will still rape
Mar 16 01:18:06 <Chaang-Noi>	wow im 10% of the yes money on that bet, and i got in on the first day
Mar 16 01:18:46 <Chaang-Noi>	weight at 97k  i like these odds :)
Mar 16 01:19:18 <Chaang-Noi>	however if the specs are 11% better im still going to lose even if they ship
Mar 16 01:19:19 <Chaang-Noi>	crazy
Mar 16 01:19:49 <Bowjob>	better yet they dont ship
Mar 16 01:19:53 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 16 01:20:05 <Chaang-Noi>	oh well, its 5 btc
Mar 16 01:20:11 <Chaang-Noi>	either way
Mar 16 01:20:33 <Bowjob>	i dont get this bet
Mar 16 01:20:34 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/
Mar 16 01:20:35 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 16 01:20:36 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 16 01:21:13 <Bowjob>	"Devices must be in scope of at least -10% of advertised performance in order to be accepted as valid"
Mar 16 01:21:33 <Bowjob>	its a trap
Mar 16 01:21:33 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 16 01:22:51 <Bowjob>	oh nvm, at least -10% so if they ship at their expected specs then its a win
Mar 16 01:22:52 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 16 01:23:00 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 16 01:23:08 <Chaang-Noi>	i just sent a quarter on yes on that
Mar 16 01:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	ya they should get it within the widest imaginable industrial standards.
Mar 16 01:23:26 <tiberiusiv>	BFL probably did make an effort at actually producing something but had major cost overruns and bad management of supply chain
Mar 16 01:23:48 <tiberiusiv>	now they are hoping to get anything out just to get new orders in to obtain the $$ to fill old ones
Mar 16 01:24:02 <tiberiusiv>	like avalon did
Mar 16 01:24:16 <tiberiusiv>	pure ponzi schemes
Mar 16 01:25:08 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv you kinda had it.
Mar 16 01:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	most scams in btc play out the same way.
Mar 16 01:25:27 <mircea_popescu>	tom's basic thing is exactly there. bitcoinica failed the exact same way. everything in the drama timeline
Mar 16 01:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	is a story of people trying, failing and then going eh what the fuck, we can't admit we've been idiots.
Mar 16 01:25:42 <mircea_popescu>	so let's pretend a little longer.
Mar 16 01:25:48 <tiberiusiv>	0 integrity
Mar 16 01:26:01 <mircea_popescu>	and then tehy have the cheek to even talk to my girl in the forum,
Mar 16 01:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	let alone make judgement calls and give opinions.
Mar 16 01:26:24 <tiberiusiv>	what girl
Mar 16 01:26:33 <tiberiusiv>	mpoe-pr?
Mar 16 01:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 16 01:26:48 <tiberiusiv>	i thought that was you
Mar 16 01:27:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6066 @ 0.00074519 = 4.5203 BTC [+]
Mar 16 01:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Mar 16 01:29:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i should get a pr girl, lulz
Mar 16 01:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	better get a business first.
Mar 16 01:29:59 <Chaang-Noi>	going afk, see ya gents later
Mar 16 01:30:11 <tiberiusiv>	i thought roger ver and memory dealers were suppose to be intelligent
Mar 16 01:30:20 <Chaang-Noi>	goats trolling consulting :)
Mar 16 01:30:34 <tiberiusiv>	how did they make deals to sell 800k+ of merchandise on a none existant store
Mar 16 01:31:18 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv how you mea ?
Mar 16 01:31:30 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoinstore.com
Mar 16 01:31:56 <tiberiusiv>	his site was running only in the last 2 weeks but he needs to sell 800k+ to keep the competitive pricing
Mar 16 01:33:07 <tiberiusiv>	problem with that concept is his customer base is so small, basically people who derive a bitcoin income
Mar 16 01:33:15 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoinstore is iirc online since 2012
Mar 16 01:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	neh /
Mar 16 01:33:31 <mircea_popescu>	how did you compute the 800k value ?
Mar 16 01:33:41 <tiberiusiv>	he has it listed on the site
Mar 16 01:33:47 <tiberiusiv>	that he has to reach 850k in sales by march 31st
Mar 16 01:33:55 <tiberiusiv>	or else he loses the pricing advantage
Mar 16 01:34:15 <tiberiusiv>	guy turned it into a charity asking the community to support the store lol
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Mar 16 01:35:50 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: heres the problem with the bitcoinstore, if someone has to convert fiat into BTC to shop on the store, the slippage kills any pricing power over amazon
Mar 16 01:36:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1804 @ 0.00074519 = 1.3443 BTC [+]
Mar 16 01:36:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10265 @ 0.00074586 = 7.6563 BTC [+]
Mar 16 01:36:12 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: so really the store only benefits those that derive bitcoin incomes, which is a tiny % of people
Mar 16 01:37:55 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 16 01:37:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.47001, Best ask: 46.83966, Bid-ask spread: 0.36965, Last trade: 46.83966, 24 hour volume: 19691.27912928, 24 hour low: 46.40000, 24 hour high: 47.44999, 24 hour vwap: 46.95610
Mar 16 01:38:01 <Bowjob>	dat spread
Mar 16 01:40:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9982 @ 0.00074314 = 7.418 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 01:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv that is a point.
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Mar 16 01:47:25 <tiberiusiv>	so what happens to the havelock funds that preordered basic/bfl?
Mar 16 01:48:34 <Bowjob>	ittl go down the drain
Mar 16 01:49:02 <Bowjob>	or they start pre ordering from avalon batch 3
Mar 16 01:51:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16040 @ 0.00074314 = 11.92 BTC [-]
Mar 16 01:51:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10222 @ 0.00073669 = 7.5304 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 01:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv i have no idea.
Mar 16 01:57:43 <Ukto>	tiberiusiv: basic is gone. done
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Mar 16 01:58:09 <Ukto>	only some funds have been returned, not all
Mar 16 01:58:50 <Ukto>	but as Bowjob said, they have lost alot of expected value
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Mar 16 02:01:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5948 @ 0.00072233 = 4.2964 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 02:09:08 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 16 02:09:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.41201, Best ask: 46.42000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00799, Last trade: 46.42000, 24 hour volume: 19533.70116065, 24 hour low: 46.40000, 24 hour high: 47.44999, 24 hour vwap: 46.95153
Mar 16 02:09:56 <Bowjob>	umm... crash?
Mar 16 02:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-bitchslapping-of-2013/
Mar 16 02:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps of interest to you.
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Mar 16 02:23:15 <tiberiusiv>	people attack satoshi dice because it is successful
Mar 16 02:24:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30515 @ 0.00072639 = 22.1658 BTC [+]
Mar 16 02:25:36 <tiberiusiv>	that was a great article mircea
Mar 16 02:27:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5797 @ 0.00072639 = 4.2109 BTC [+]
Mar 16 02:32:31 <Namworld>	Quite interesting, but I'm not sure about the part where they fear you vs hate like for SD.
Mar 16 02:33:07 <Namworld>	I thought it was mostly like SD, hate. Because of what you do, not having a slice of the pie, whatever. And trolls aplenty.
Mar 16 02:36:18 <aethero>	People attack satoshi dice because its basically kicking a baby.
Mar 16 02:36:45 <Namworld>	see: "Because of what you do"
Mar 16 02:37:05 <Namworld>	In SD's case, blockchain transactions
Mar 16 02:37:33 <zerokwel>	personally I like SD
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Mar 16 02:38:14 <zerokwel>	dont people thing btc is going to have a LOT more tx than that come a few years time
Mar 16 02:38:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.849 = 1.698 BTC [+]
Mar 16 02:38:28 <Namworld>	It will...
Mar 16 02:38:35 <zerokwel>	and sd pays a shitload of fees as well
Mar 16 02:39:10 <zerokwel>	and if pools are going to start bullshit rules of not wanting to talk to others then miners need to move
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Mar 16 02:44:46 <midnightmagic>	echo.. echo.. echo..
Mar 16 02:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld perhaps. i doubt it tho.
Mar 16 02:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	who ever heard of proponents of a system being upset cause it's actually useful for something.
Mar 16 02:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	zerokwel in fact sd paid a little over 50% of all fees ever paid.
Mar 16 02:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	but yah that's what i was explainingto luke and co back in feb : if they exclude sd txs that doesn't exclude sd from bitcoin, it excludes them from mining.
Mar 16 02:47:17 <mircea_popescu>	obviously the point was undestood even if they're too spineless to admit this, or else we wouldn't have seen the move to the rabble rousing populist forum bs.
Mar 16 02:47:39 <midnightmagic>	first, upset isn't the word for it; second, that's not why they're advocating against it.
Mar 16 02:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic listen, post an article on the topic somewhere. i'll read it
Mar 16 02:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	and prolly comment on it.
Mar 16 02:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	irc is not too good a medium for this discussion, it'll just get fragmented into nonsense.
Mar 16 02:48:26 <midnightmagic>	that's very true.
Mar 16 02:48:43 <Namworld>	I just don't see you handling punishments or people showing fear... I'm not sure what that fear part is about.
Mar 16 02:48:52 <midnightmagic>	very well, i agree. i'll stop..
Mar 16 02:48:54 <Namworld>	handing*
Mar 16 02:51:06 <zerokwel>	so by using the above reasoning if we beleve that a pool blocking SD tx is a bad thing. then stoping that pool from working would be the same example
Mar 16 02:51:19 <zerokwel>	meh... total bs if u ask me
Mar 16 02:51:33 <zerokwel>	SD is not an issue
Mar 16 02:53:09 <zerokwel>	so for exaple if everyone blocked the pools ip that was not helping the network. same result :)
Mar 16 02:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	zerokwel moreover this is a serious problem for the future.
Mar 16 02:54:07 <mircea_popescu>	suppose china comes to avalon or asicminer and says you must not rely the tx of this charity
Mar 16 02:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	because its from tibet.
Mar 16 02:54:19 <Namworld>	technically it works by miners vote. Forks can be created. Users can as well follow forks according to what they want...
Mar 16 02:54:49 <mircea_popescu>	i won't be speaking for some charity in tibet because i don't give a shit. if people actually do this sort of crap then btc will be fucked on the longer term
Mar 16 02:54:50 <Namworld>	If they don't simply follow the longest chain...
Mar 16 02:55:14 <zerokwel>	good point MP
Mar 16 02:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld the problem here is that since we don't have multiple implementations, the behaviour of clients is centralised not by their will
Mar 16 02:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	but by predictable code accident
Mar 16 02:56:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5526 @ 0.00072639 = 4.014 BTC [+]
Mar 16 02:56:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00072743 = 3.6008 BTC [+]
Mar 16 02:56:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21224 @ 0.00073381 = 15.5744 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 03:00:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2935 @ 0.00072233 = 2.12 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:00:55 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153604.0
Mar 16 03:01:00 <Bowjob>	good deal imo
Mar 16 03:01:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 916 @ 0.25321359 = 231.9436 BTC [+]
Mar 16 03:01:30 <Namworld>	Hopefully that issue will be solved.
Mar 16 03:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40545 @ 0.00073381 = 29.7523 BTC [+]
Mar 16 03:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob wjhat ?! he's selling them for 1 ?!
Mar 16 03:02:08 <Bowjob>	only 1 coin is for sale at 1
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Mar 16 03:02:17 <Bowjob>	so it goes up in price as they get sold ala bitbet
Mar 16 03:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	o like a giveaway yeah
Mar 16 03:02:26 <Bowjob>	So I got one for 1.05
Mar 16 03:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	kinda neat idea actually
Mar 16 03:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	molec / moleccc hey you here ?
Mar 16 03:03:37 <moleccc>	yep
Mar 16 03:03:52 <Namworld>	I'm taking 3 for the heck of it.
Mar 16 03:04:04 <moleccc>	ah, you guys found my thread ;)
Mar 16 03:04:06 <moleccc>	lol
Mar 16 03:04:12 <moleccc>	go ahead, still cheap ;)
Mar 16 03:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	cool idea hehe.
Mar 16 03:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not gonna weigh your bottom line down, i can get as many coins as i want for myself, but nice way to spread the love.
Mar 16 03:05:55 <Bowjob>	now this sucks, my wallet says 199
Mar 16 03:05:59 <Bowjob>	as opposed to 200
Mar 16 03:06:00 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 16 03:06:02 <moleccc>	mircea_popescu, thanks
Mar 16 03:06:19 <Namworld>	Can I pay on monday? I'm expecting a payment then. I don't want to get all my bids on exchange shifted around.
Mar 16 03:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld take a loan :D
Mar 16 03:06:42 <moleccc>	Namworld, this is exactly what I was hoping for: people buying more than 1 ;)
Mar 16 03:06:49 <Namworld>	Not worth the trouble.
Mar 16 03:06:54 <moleccc>	Namworld, still a very good price
Mar 16 03:07:39 <Namworld>	what?
Mar 16 03:10:33 <Bowjob>	i take it molec will ship before BFL
Mar 16 03:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	ok so here's a story :
Mar 16 03:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	bflwebsite went down
Mar 16 03:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	coinabul was hosted in the same place
Mar 16 03:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	entire datacenter got blown. sound familiar ?
Mar 16 03:11:59 <Namworld>	yeah... you... or our switzerland node.
Mar 16 03:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/boys-and-girls-i-got-news-were-being-probed/
Mar 16 03:14:35 <Bowjob>	havelock never got ddosed so far
Mar 16 03:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	that's good.
Mar 16 03:16:21 <Namworld>	neither has bitfunder or btct.co or a lot of bitcoin businesses...
Mar 16 03:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	still, prolly time to start hardening.
Mar 16 03:16:22 <moleccc>	Namworld, you can pay on monday
Mar 16 03:16:40 <Namworld>	good
Mar 16 03:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	seriously tho, who is handling gift certs these days ?
Mar 16 03:19:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7224 @ 0.0055 = 39.732 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:22:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3840 @ 0.00520001 = 19.968 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:22:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0052 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:22:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.005 = 19 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:22:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1860 @ 0.005 = 9.3 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:22:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 882 @ 0.21019932 = 185.3958 BTC [+]
Mar 16 03:22:57 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 16 03:23:02 <Bowjob>	dice not looking too good?
Mar 16 03:23:15 <Namworld>	Looks fine to me
Mar 16 03:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	i was just about to say hm, the calls covering, are we in for a drop ?
Mar 16 03:24:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.17628823 = 176.2882 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:24:49 <Namworld>	I'm thinking the latest grow might be exaggerated... I still consider the ideal value per BTC to be around 16-18 USD/BTC (and raising). But I'm not sure if the current price is warranted.
Mar 16 03:25:31 <Namworld>	Someone might just be in need of the funds however.
Mar 16 03:25:41 <mircea_popescu>	the run-up was pretty much driven by everyone's wish on both sides of the divide to merge btc and some finance.
Mar 16 03:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	it may have failed on this attempt
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Mar 16 03:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	it was a tough sell, the events of the 12th were the kiss of death.
Mar 16 03:26:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00072946 = 1.4589 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:26:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7679 @ 0.00072233 = 5.5468 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:26:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4521 @ 0.00072214 = 3.2648 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:26:53 <moleccc>	Namworld, I quoted wrong price. It's only 3.70
Mar 16 03:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15779 @ 0.005 = 78.895 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:27:45 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 16 03:27:47 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005 / 0.00518591 / 0.0058822 (36479 shares, 189.18 BTC), 7D: 0.005 / 0.00552024 / 0.006 (87093 shares, 480.77 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00612245 / 0.0069 (2394243 shares, 14,658.65 BTC)
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Mar 16 03:30:28 <Anduck>	mircea_popescu: what events?
Mar 16 03:30:59 <Namworld>	Well reddit's BTC acceptance seems to be failing too. I think many newcomers/investors/older bitcoiners were buying on the premise of more merchants accepting Bitcoins. But if the userbase only grows by speculators/accepting merchants, it's not really working out. We need people spending those BTC. And it's not going to happen merely because merchants now accept BTC. Merchants can accept
Mar 16 03:31:00 <Namworld>	western union, people will still mostly use Paypal when available. Taking the time to get Bitcoin is an extra step which is not required. Growth comes from people adopting Bitcoins out of the need to use them of for their property as money and actually getting implicated to actual do as much transactions they need to do in Bitcoins if available.
Mar 16 03:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck the fork
Mar 16 03:31:40 <Anduck>	ahh
Mar 16 03:31:41 <Namworld>	Okay, merchants now accept BTC, but what's the point without the spending userbase and just speculators buying up on the next big thing?
Mar 16 03:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld this is very true.
Mar 16 03:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	the entire "merchants accept btc" stuff is nonsense, and in general retail is pretty much irrelevanty
Mar 16 03:32:07 <BitHub>	not everyone is going to hold for over 5 years tho
Mar 16 03:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	i been sayin' this for months
Mar 16 03:32:24 <Namworld>	The genuine userbase is growing slower. And the Bitcoin software ain't ready either.
Mar 16 03:32:33 <Bowjob>	isnt this what freicoin is trying to fix
Mar 16 03:32:33 <Anduck>	well
Mar 16 03:32:33 <Bowjob>	with the demmurage fee
Mar 16 03:32:36 <Namworld>	The current price is very interesting to most holders...
Mar 16 03:32:46 <Anduck>	bitcoinstore got sold over 100k usd worth of stuff in pretty small time
Mar 16 03:32:54 <BitHub>	lots of peeps will cash out at 100
Mar 16 03:33:23 <Bowjob>	theres no point in cashing out if people will accept btc as payment
Mar 16 03:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	"Hello guys, I am a psychologist in training and I would like to offer my knowledge, insight and experience with understanding women."
Mar 16 03:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol that forum.
Mar 16 03:33:42 <Namworld>	 I'm expecting a sharp correction to somewhere like the steady growth throughout 2012 would have us at.
Mar 16 03:33:47 <BitHub>	if 99% of people that have bitcoin said "okey we're all holding till it hits $1000" well then could be a prob
Mar 16 03:33:48 <Bowjob>	might as well just pay in btc, that way, you dont hurt the sell value
Mar 16 03:33:51 <BitHub>	but not everyone is gon do that
Mar 16 03:34:08 <Bowjob>	not $1000, 10000
Mar 16 03:34:10 <Bowjob>	heh
Mar 16 03:34:44 <Namworld>	bitcoinstore was a good way to cash out BTC usefully. Probably done by the existing userbase who now had an opportunity at last to put their coins to good use. What's the point now that they're filled up on electronics they need if there's not more users to keep buying?
Mar 16 03:35:04 <Namworld>	Reddit had massive BTC sales initially. Then it lowered and lowered to peanuts.
Mar 16 03:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	for some values of "massive" under 100 btc or so.
Mar 16 03:36:09 <mircea_popescu>	that ain't massive nam.
Mar 16 03:36:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.17626382 = 176.2638 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:36:31 <Namworld>	In proportion to their sales
Mar 16 03:36:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 16 03:36:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.50000, Best ask: 46.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 46.61000, 24 hour volume: 19651.52807249, 24 hour low: 46.27070, 24 hour high: 47.44999, 24 hour vwap: 46.91393
Mar 16 03:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7518 @ 0.00072214 = 5.429 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:36:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5385 @ 0.00071976 = 3.8759 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:37:01 <Namworld>	Something close to 10% of sales. A good amount considering it's BTC and the low usage among the general population.
Mar 16 03:38:24 <Namworld>	Either way, I don't believe there's enough of a genuine userbase growth to sustain those prices.
Mar 16 03:38:51 <Namworld>	and too many fucks up to come ahead to get major capital invested in the near future.
Mar 16 03:39:24 <Bowjob>	https://www.bitcoinstore.com/
Mar 16 03:39:28 <Bowjob>	17%
Mar 16 03:39:43 <Bowjob>	not as bad as you think, but pretty bad
Mar 16 03:39:54 <Anduck>	i'd say it's decent
Mar 16 03:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87 @ 0.00073381 = 0.0638 BTC [+]
Mar 16 03:40:07 <Anduck>	ive not even seen bitcoinstore ads anywhere
Mar 16 03:40:14 <Anduck>	still theyve sold pretty much
Mar 16 03:40:25 <Bowjob>	id actually use it.. but then again
Mar 16 03:40:32 <Bowjob>	i already have a beast of a computer
Mar 16 03:40:42 <midnightmagic>	+1 for multiple implementations. It is in fact something that Satoshi hoped would happen much earlier than where we are in bitcoin adoption.
Mar 16 03:41:09 <Namworld>	Yeah, but at the price of electronics, 1 user could easily fit 1k USD on average. That's like 100 - 500 buyers total.
Mar 16 03:41:19 <Namworld>	Talk about a customer base...
Mar 16 03:41:41 <midnightmagic>	Namworld: Is it possible to withdraw BTC *from* reddit?
Mar 16 03:41:57 <midnightmagic>	like convert back from gold or whatever it is you can buy on reddit
Mar 16 03:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic wwithout having talked to the man, it is my impression he basically wrote a spec and then hacked together a mcguyver implementation he didn't think much of
Mar 16 03:42:44 <Namworld>	Reddit thing is about premium subscriptions sales. I don't know of many premium subscription service which allows to cash out said subscription...
Mar 16 03:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	in terms of, fuck it, it's not supposed to work long term, it's stupposed to show how this could work
Mar 16 03:43:28 <midnightmagic>	I thought so at first. But then it's been my experience since then that each strange decision ended up having long-reaching, and resilience-related consequences for the distant future.
Mar 16 03:43:49 <Namworld>	and here it is with a market cap over 500 million USD...
Mar 16 03:44:21 <Bowjob>	imo that market cap number is bullshit
Mar 16 03:44:27 <midnightmagic>	It was supposed to just be a reference implementation, never The Real one. Even Gavin has made many and numerous noises about how much better off bitcoin would be with multiple implementations.
Mar 16 03:44:38 <Bowjob>	you cant find someone willing to pay 500m for 10.8m BTCs
Mar 16 03:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	im not saying it's impossible to move the actual implementation as it is into shape by incremental improvements ftr.
Mar 16 03:44:57 <Bowjob>	instead as you sell BTC, it becomes cheaper
Mar 16 03:45:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.17623687 = 176.2369 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:45:39 <Namworld>	that's not really the point but yeah.
Mar 16 03:45:47 <Namworld>	Anyway, almost 4 am... I think I'll be heading off.
Mar 16 03:45:57 <Bowjob>	MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.17623687 = 176.2369 BTC
Mar 16 03:45:59 <Bowjob>	what does this mean?
Mar 16 03:46:05 <midnightmagic>	I think a strong, with-the-devs-onboard alternate implementation to create client heterogeny would probably be a welcome relief for most of them.
Mar 16 03:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	heh calls are covering. either they're right and a top is in
Mar 16 03:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	or else they're wrong.
Mar 16 03:46:21 <Bowjob>	If BTC reaches 39 dollars, this dude gets money?
Mar 16 03:46:32 <midnightmagic>	And by "with the devs onboard" I just mean cooperation and expertise transfer.
Mar 16 03:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob nah it was sold. he had bought it earlier for w/e
Mar 16 03:46:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00073492 = 11.9425 BTC [+]
Mar 16 03:46:55 <Bowjob>	oh
Mar 16 03:47:02 <Bowjob>	just taking profits then
Mar 16 03:47:10 <Namworld>	No, it might have been bought earlier for cheaper. It's a C for call, so yeah, taking profits.
Mar 16 03:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	prolly made some profit
Mar 16 03:47:19 <Anduck>	hmma
Mar 16 03:47:23 <midnightmagic>	It's pretty stressful for them, the abuse. It's actually the reason why Satoshi left. Did you know that?
Mar 16 03:47:24 <Anduck>	asicminer@0.84
Mar 16 03:47:27 <Anduck>	sick price imo
Mar 16 03:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic yes.
Mar 16 03:47:31 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 16 03:47:48 <mircea_popescu>	the solution is quite simple : don't get politically involved. stick to writing code.
Mar 16 03:47:54 <Bowjob>	I thought Satoshi had "better things to do"
Mar 16 03:47:59 <Namworld>	Night all.
Mar 16 03:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob that's what it's called
Mar 16 03:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	night Namworld
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Mar 16 03:48:57 <midnightmagic>	Bowjob: No. He didn't want to be involved in all the conflict. People kept coming in and insisting the code was shit. Except people like Hal Finney..  but they were so rare that they were drowned out in the noise. And then people were suggesting too early that wikileaks start using it and and and.. :)
Mar 16 03:48:59 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob: market caps tend to be BS in the real world, they are based off of the last sale irrelevant of volume
Mar 16 03:49:40 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob: market caps should be used to determine value, its better then price
Mar 16 03:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv that's why i regularly use the 30day price figures for mkt cap, and the 24 hour averages for btc prices on option pricing and so forth.
Mar 16 03:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	hoping people get used to the approach
Mar 16 03:50:16 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 16 03:50:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.50001, Best ask: 46.64899, Bid-ask spread: 0.14898, Last trade: 46.50001, 24 hour volume: 19605.08858072, 24 hour low: 46.27070, 24 hour high: 47.44999, 24 hour vwap: 46.91298
Mar 16 03:50:29 <Bowjob>	yawn, we've been declining today
Mar 16 03:50:39 <Bowjob>	the volume sucks though
Mar 16 03:51:05 <tiberiusiv>	declines on low volume are positive
Mar 16 03:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	you know in spite of the spikes avg volume is like 20-30k
Mar 16 03:51:11 <tiberiusiv>	which is very low compared to the 10.8 mil coins
Mar 16 03:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Mar 16 03:51:28 <Bowjob>	we're actually less thatn 10.8m
Mar 16 03:51:38 <Bowjob>	a lot of coins were lost
Mar 16 03:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is mostly used as a store of value anyway
Mar 16 03:52:25 <Bowjob>	i feel that fuckup on the twelth kinda killed the rally
Mar 16 03:54:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.17620987 = 176.2099 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:54:28 <Bowjob>	lots of profits
Mar 16 03:54:29 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 16 03:55:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 230 @ 0.25305341 = 58.2023 BTC [-]
Mar 16 03:57:25 <FabianB>	$vwap S.DICE
Mar 16 03:57:26 <mpexbot>	FabianB: {u'7d': {u'cnt': u'54', u'min': u'500000', u'max': u'600000', u'vsa': u'48077439398', u'vsh': u'87093', u'avg': u'552024.151172'}, u'30d': {u'cnt': u'538', u'min': u'300001', u'max': u'690000', u'vsa': u'1465865095496', u'vsh': u'2394243', u'avg': u'612245.74761'}, u'1d': {u'cnt': u'9', u'min': u'500000', u'max': u'588220', u'vsa': u'18917716557', u'vsh': u'36479', u'avg': (1 more message)
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Mar 16 03:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 16 03:58:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005 / 0.00518591 / 0.0058822 (36479 shares, 189.18 BTC), 7D: 0.005 / 0.00552024 / 0.006 (87093 shares, 480.77 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00612245 / 0.0069 (2394243 shares, 14,658.65 BTC)
Mar 16 03:58:46 <mircea_popescu>	way cleanner imo. mpexbot more adequate for programming i'd guess
Mar 16 03:59:19 <FabianB>	yeah, if it wouldn't at the end say "(1 more message)" ;)
Mar 16 03:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	does it do that in pm too ?
Mar 16 04:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2807 @ 0.00073493 = 2.0629 BTC [+]
Mar 16 04:00:32 <FabianB>	didn't get pm, but i'm umode +R
Mar 16 04:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15513 @ 0.00073492 = 11.4008 BTC [-]
Mar 16 04:00:40 <FabianB>	let me turn that off for a moment
Mar 16 04:00:48 <mircea_popescu>	bah it does
Mar 16 04:00:55 <FabianB>	$vwap s.dice
Mar 16 04:01:33 <mpexbot>	FabianB: {u'7d': {u'cnt': u'54', u'min': u'500000', u'max': u'600000', u'vsa': u'48077439398', u'vsh': u'87093', u'avg': u'552024.151172'}, u'30d': {u'cnt': u'538', u'min': u'300001', u'max': u'690000', u'vsa': u'1465865095496', u'vsh': u'2394243', u'avg': u'612245.74761'}, u'1d': {u'cnt': u'9', u'min': u'500000', u'max': u'588220', u'vsa': u'18917716557', u'vsh': u'36479', u'avg': (1 more message)
Mar 16 04:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	smickles, could $vwap be cleaned up a little so that the 1 more msg thing is not printed ? perhaps take out all the u too
Mar 16 04:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	and all the spaces, no need
Mar 16 04:02:08 <FabianB>	yeah, i guess it's just a few characters needed for the 1d avg
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Mar 16 04:11:53 <Guest7560>	Anybody can explain the mpex oix in laymens terms?
Mar 16 04:12:12 <Guest7560>	(I've read the blog article - still confused)
Mar 16 04:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071977 = 7.1977 BTC [-]
Mar 16 04:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3365 @ 0.00071976 = 2.422 BTC [-]
Mar 16 04:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00071873 = 2.3718 BTC [-]
Mar 16 04:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5885 @ 0.00071641 = 4.2161 BTC [-]
Mar 16 04:21:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10499 BTC [+]
Mar 16 04:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	Guest7560 basically it's a sentiment indicator
Mar 16 04:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	it sums up what the option traders think the price will be next week
Mar 16 04:23:19 <Bowjob>	so the traders think BTC will go down to 39.31
Mar 16 04:23:31 <Guest7560>	mircea_popescu: Thanks! So 39.31 (57.59 / 37.62) means sentiment is that it's going down
Mar 16 04:23:51 <Guest7560>	What do the 2nd and 3rd values mean?
Mar 16 04:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	on average, they expect 39.31 next week. the call side expects 57.59, the put side 37.32
Mar 16 04:24:11 <Guest7560>	That's pretty broad...
Mar 16 04:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	it allows for easy separation between bulls and bears by taking advantage of the the nature of options
Mar 16 04:24:21 <Bowjob>	so some expect 57 by next week
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Mar 16 04:24:27 <mircea_popescu>	bow yes.
Mar 16 04:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	also consider 2nd line : 4`851.15 (8.5 / 91.5)
Mar 16 04:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	of the ~5k btc on the line, only 8.5% belongs to the people expecting 57.59
Mar 16 04:25:06 <mircea_popescu>	so they aren;t really putting their btc where their mouth is very much
Mar 16 04:25:32 <Guest7560>	Aha!
Mar 16 04:25:43 <Guest7560>	mircea_popescu: Cool, thanks!
Mar 16 04:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	it's a pretty sophisticated measure, if you think about it
Mar 16 04:25:55 <mircea_popescu>	however, i wouldn't fall in love with it. we don't know yet if it makes any sense or just is a pretty number
Mar 16 04:26:24 <Guest7560>	I think I've read on reddit somewhere that it never failed in the past..?
Mar 16 04:26:28 <rikur_>	I just missed something interesting.
Mar 16 04:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	it predicted some events in the past and failed to rpedict others
Mar 16 04:26:46 <Bowjob>	you put on feb 28th
Mar 16 04:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	there's a graph in the article on trilema showing it against the actual price
Mar 16 04:28:09 <Guest7560>	That's the one I think yes
Mar 16 04:28:54 <Bowjob>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/oix-retrospective.png
Mar 16 04:29:01 <Bowjob>	That means the OIX is pretty accurate
Mar 16 04:29:17 <Guest7560>	So while mpex site was down the last couple days (ddos I think), I heard that trading was still going in irc
Mar 16 04:29:23 <Bowjob>	I don't understand that huge red sword
Mar 16 04:29:29 <Bowjob>	in the middle. wtf is that
Mar 16 04:29:46 <Bowjob>	did people suddenly expect BTC to raise to the moon?
Mar 16 04:29:47 <Bowjob>	wat
Mar 16 04:29:52 <Guest7560>	Is there a way to get the oix when mpex.co website is down?
Mar 16 04:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob you can buy a very expensive call and make the sentiment spike on low volume, i think is what happened.
Mar 16 04:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	Guest43913 yes. looky :
Mar 16 04:30:22 <Bowjob>	ah
Mar 16 04:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 16 04:30:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 37.62123733 / 39.31406066 / 57.58756229 (28662 shares, 4,851.15 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 16 04:31:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob for instance consider O.BTCUSD.C750T. it costs like .05 btc. if you buy it, you imply price goes to like 76+
Mar 16 04:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	if that's the only thing that's bought... spike.
Mar 16 04:31:46 <Bowjob>	yeah i see it
Mar 16 04:32:00 <Guest7560>	Ah cool!
Mar 16 04:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	option trade volume varies A LOT. two weeks ago was 20k
Mar 16 04:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	now it's 4k etc.
Mar 16 04:32:12 <Guest7560>	Thanks, mircea_popescu
Mar 16 04:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	there's periods with 0 trade. so...
Mar 16 04:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	Guest7560 np
Mar 16 04:32:34 <Bowjob>	what are the green lines for?
Mar 16 04:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	Guest7560 http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-many-ways-available-for-talking-to-mpex/
Mar 16 04:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	you can get more details about the bots etc there.
Mar 16 04:32:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13111 @ 0.00071641 = 9.3929 BTC [-]
Mar 16 04:32:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20307 @ 0.00071488 = 14.5171 BTC [-]
Mar 16 04:32:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.849 = 16.98 BTC [+]
Mar 16 04:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob you mean on the right sidhe ?
Mar 16 04:33:21 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 16 04:33:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.849 = 16.98 BTC [+]
Mar 16 04:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	volume
Mar 16 04:34:16 <Bowjob>	ok, thx
Mar 16 04:34:33 <rikur_>	Bowjob: that's a very distracting nickname
Mar 16 04:34:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.849 = 4.245 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 04:35:24 <Bowjob>	you are not the first.
Mar 16 04:36:09 <Guest7560>	So anyone has an idea why the majority of traders thinks btc will go down to 39?
Mar 16 04:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	rikur_ http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/14686.html there, allow me to be helpful
Mar 16 04:36:27 <Bowjob>	march 12 fuckup?
Mar 16 04:36:54 <mircea_popescu>	Guest7560 just the revert to mean theory may be enough. it went up fast.
Mar 16 04:37:07 <Bowjob>	though I'm waiting for march 22 and the days after that..
Mar 16 04:37:23 <Guest7560>	What's happening on the 22?
Mar 16 04:37:36 <Bowjob>	coinlab opens
Mar 16 04:37:38 <rikur_>	mircea_popescu: thanks!
Mar 16 04:37:53 <Bowjob>	america and canada wont be able to trade on mt gox anymore
Mar 16 04:37:57 <Guest7560>	Bowjob: I think the fork thing is over now and everybody relaxed, no?
Mar 16 04:38:17 <Bowjob>	yes, but it scared a bunch of people..
Mar 16 04:38:53 <Guest7560>	I know, but that's over now, so I wouldn't expect a drop so many days after its over and fixed
Mar 16 04:39:29 <Guest7560>	Tell me about that coinlab/mtgox US/CA story
Mar 16 04:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	it's not really fixed. just strung together for now.
Mar 16 04:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	the fixing will take a lot of time.
Mar 16 04:40:18 <Bowjob>	basically wall st. , im speculating will play with bitcoins
Mar 16 04:41:08 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/transition
Mar 16 04:41:32 <Bowjob>	Taxes won't be optional anymore if you trade with coinlab
Mar 16 04:41:36 <Guest7560>	mircea_popescu: You mean until nobody uses the 0.8 version anymore that has the bug that caused the block to be rejected?
Mar 16 04:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	Guest7560 it's .7 and prev that have an issue. not exactly a bug. just a complex db issue.
Mar 16 04:42:24 <rikur_>	Bowjob: taxes?
Mar 16 04:42:33 <Bowjob>	Yeap
Mar 16 04:42:36 <Guest7560>	Alright, sorry for mixing this up
Mar 16 04:42:58 <Bowjob>	Up until now, if you have half a braincell, you can choose to pay taxes or not
Mar 16 04:43:06 <Bowjob>	uncle sam wont know
Mar 16 04:43:18 <Bowjob>	but CoinLab will report it to the irs
Mar 16 04:43:27 <rikur_>	nice.
Mar 16 04:43:29 <Bowjob>	if you make 500 dollars or more
Mar 16 04:43:39 <Bowjob>	basically, they are "legitimizing" bitcoin
Mar 16 04:44:01 <Bowjob>	have you seen their buy 1m and sell 1m worth of bitcoin button?
Mar 16 04:44:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 16 04:44:31 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob: taxes were never optional even at mtgox
Mar 16 04:45:01 <Bowjob>	oh. but they dont hand in the info to irs dont they
Mar 16 04:45:18 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob: they may not but when you withdraw funds the recieving bank does
Mar 16 04:45:22 <rikur_>	Wait. If I have BTC in mt.gox, will it be sold to coinlab? or moved under their jurisdiction? I'm currently in Canada.
Mar 16 04:45:35 <tiberiusiv>	coinlab
Mar 16 04:45:43 <Bowjob>	mhm, actually you're right
Mar 16 04:45:43 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 16 04:46:15 <tiberiusiv>	the benefit to canada is you could say your proceeds came from online gambling
Mar 16 04:46:25 <tiberiusiv>	as a casual gambler
Mar 16 04:46:46 <tiberiusiv>	thats not taxable in canada
Mar 16 04:47:07 <rikur_>	coinlab has a very unfortunate logo with the "bubbles" :)
Mar 16 04:47:08 <Guest7560>	Coinlab statement is still pretty vague...
Mar 16 04:47:32 <Bowjob>	what i dont like about coinlab
Mar 16 04:47:49 <Bowjob>	is they are offering a "storage" solution
Mar 16 04:47:58 <Bowjob>	and they will charge money to hold BTC
Mar 16 04:48:03 <Bowjob>	.. i mean, wtf?
Mar 16 04:48:05 <tiberiusiv>	how is that any different then mtgox
Mar 16 04:48:10 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox stored your coins
Mar 16 04:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153556.msg1630348#msg1630348 lol
Mar 16 04:48:22 <Bowjob>	you're missing the point
Mar 16 04:48:30 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/storage
Mar 16 04:48:34 <rikur_>	How would you be taxed for mined coins?
Mar 16 04:49:18 <tiberiusiv>	you wouldnt rikur
Mar 16 04:49:21 <Bowjob>	cashout price - electricity - mining rig price
Mar 16 04:49:25 <Bowjob>	= income
Mar 16 04:49:29 <Bowjob>	and then they tax your income
Mar 16 04:49:33 <tiberiusiv>	until you started filling up a bank account
Mar 16 04:49:35 <Bowjob>	you dont have to if you just keep the coins
Mar 16 04:49:47 <Bowjob>	thats the thing. if you use the coins anonymously, its just like income
Mar 16 04:49:51 <Bowjob>	and taxes, will be optional
Mar 16 04:50:40 <Bowjob>	it could get sticky when the gov recognize bitcoin as money
Mar 16 04:51:41 <Bowjob>	what you can do, is wait till your bitcoin stash become so valuable, that you can buy a member of the congress with it
Mar 16 04:52:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849 BTC [+]
Mar 16 04:53:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/
Mar 16 04:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha THIS is even money ?
Mar 16 04:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	lord have mercy.
Mar 16 04:53:47 <Bowjob>	I thought I brought it up earlier lol
Mar 16 04:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	had i ?
Mar 16 04:54:07 <mircea_popescu>	must've forgot
Mar 16 04:54:36 <Bowjob>	yes you did
Mar 16 04:54:38 <Bowjob>	"[16:04] <Bowjob> http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/ [16:04] <Bowjob> Wow [16:04] <Bowjob> HOly shit. ahhahahahah [16:04] <mircea_popescu> lol wut ?! [16:04] <mircea_popescu> don't tell me they;ve moved to july ?"
Mar 16 04:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	a yes you have!
Mar 16 04:55:10 <Bowjob>	chang put a quarter in on yes
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Mar 16 04:55:26 <mircea_popescu>	a quarter btc = 10 bux
Mar 16 04:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	so wait. luke went to visit bfl, where he was in fact presented with a box of fans ?
Mar 16 04:58:07 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 16 04:58:26 <tiberiusiv>	sdice has almost no bids?
Mar 16 04:58:26 <Bowjob>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/luke-jr/100-day-2-slight-delay.html
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Mar 16 04:58:32 <Bowjob>	"slight delay"
Mar 16 04:58:39 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 16 04:58:52 <Bowjob>	it scares me though, if they actually deliver there goes my profits
Mar 16 04:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	i guess he better start looking for crow stew recipes.
Mar 16 04:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1354 @ 0.00071102 = 0.9627 BTC [-]
Mar 16 04:59:02 <Bowjob>	though..
Mar 16 04:59:12 <Bowjob>	they might not ship
Mar 16 04:59:28 <Bowjob>	Bitbet suggests that BFL victims are low on morale
Mar 16 04:59:57 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: are the bbet asks your tranches
Mar 16 05:00:04 <Bowjob>	they should be betting on Yes to make up on their lost profits
Mar 16 05:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv the 10k bits are mine/kako's alternatively, as per the contract
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Mar 16 05:04:32 <tiberiusiv>	18s yours as well?
Mar 16 05:04:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.21053791 = 210.5379 BTC [+]
Mar 16 05:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.17621836 = 176.2184 BTC [+]
Mar 16 05:04:51 <tiberiusiv>	0.00181000	300
Mar 16 05:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv 18s ? a, no
Mar 16 05:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	you can work it out, they're supposed to increase in price at a fixed rate
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Mar 16 05:05:14 <mircea_popescu>	see if the price works out with that
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Mar 16 05:05:40 <tiberiusiv>	hows this month looking for profits?
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Mar 16 05:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	as per the guidance in feb statement, "Since the BFL bet closed in March the dividend guidance is high for next month - just that bet alone would push profit up 300%."
Mar 16 05:07:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.0053 = 0.106 BTC [+]
Mar 16 05:08:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 13 @ 0.00535 = 0.0696 BTC [+]
Mar 16 05:11:39 <tiberiusiv>	is sdice working?
Mar 16 05:12:16 <tiberiusiv>	the bet page isnt showing up
Mar 16 05:12:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.0007078 = 15.1469 BTC [-]
Mar 16 05:12:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00070473 = 8.2453 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 05:13:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 83 @ 0.0054 = 0.4482 BTC [+]
Mar 16 05:13:33 <mircea_popescu>	maybe attacked again ?
Mar 16 05:13:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849 BTC [+]
Mar 16 05:15:37 <Ukto>	works for me
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Mar 16 05:16:11 <Ukto>	actually
Mar 16 05:16:14 <Ukto>	looks like teh db
Mar 16 05:16:16 <Ukto>	is coming and going
Mar 16 05:16:24 <rikur_>	Wow, does bitcoin already have 3x the market cap of e-gold at it's peak?
Mar 16 05:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	rikur_ yes.
Mar 16 05:16:47 <rikur_>	never thought of that.
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Mar 16 05:18:48 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.880
Mar 16 05:18:53 <mircea_popescu>	implied btc market cap is larger than the gnp of Dominica ; Tonga ; Micronesia, Federated States of ; Anguilla ; Cook Islands ; São Tomé and Príncipe ; Palau ; Marshall Islands ; Kiribati ; Nauru ; Montserrat ; Tuvalu
Mar 16 05:18:57 <Bowjob>	I have a feeling this dude will be correct for once
Mar 16 05:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	that's like12.
Mar 16 05:19:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.849 = 6.792 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 05:20:56 <Anduck>	so..
Mar 16 05:20:59 <Anduck>	hanging man
Mar 16 05:21:22 <Anduck>	doesnt it mean extremely bullish?
Mar 16 05:21:33 <Anduck>	if i remember correct...
Mar 16 05:21:38 <mircea_popescu>	hanging man is the end of uptrend
Mar 16 05:21:42 <Anduck>	ahh
Mar 16 05:21:45 <rikur_>	if you believe in technical analysis..
Mar 16 05:21:48 <Anduck>	well
Mar 16 05:23:20 <Bowjob>	well, lucif has been consistently wrong in the past..
Mar 16 05:23:27 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 16 05:25:14 <Bowjob>	"tting ready to change. The reliability of this signal is drastically improved when the price of the asset decreases the day after the signal.  Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hangingman.asp#ixzz2Nh2Xhc2X"
Mar 16 05:25:30 <Bowjob>	well we were at 47 yesterday
Mar 16 05:25:32 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 16 05:25:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.65099, Best ask: 46.65100, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 46.65100, 24 hour volume: 19628.80463838, 24 hour low: 46.27070, 24 hour high: 47.44999, 24 hour vwap: 46.89741
Mar 16 05:25:42 <Bowjob>	perhaps it is a hanging man!
Mar 16 05:26:24 <midnightmagic>	..  how droll. You quoted me. Got to you, did I?
Mar 16 05:26:35 <midnightmagic>	"quoted"
Mar 16 05:31:20 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
Mar 16 05:33:25 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Not that you care about much outside your own head, but I did not, nor would I, grant you permission to publically public anything I say in a channel which is not clearly demarked as a "Publically-logged channel."
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Mar 16 05:33:39 <midnightmagic>	s/public /publish /
Mar 16 05:35:22 <midnightmagic>	I will note that neither the channel topic, nor the page that the topic's sole contents (a URL) point to, state anything about public logging.
Mar 16 05:35:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.849 = 16.98 BTC [+]
Mar 16 05:36:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849 BTC [+]
Mar 16 05:38:09 <Bowjob>	dice is down from here
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Mar 16 05:45:36 <ZedsterX>	dice is up here....took about 2 minutes to get bet addresses up
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Mar 16 05:52:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11380 @ 0.00070489 = 8.0216 BTC [+]
Mar 16 05:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9270 @ 0.00071093 = 6.5903 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 05:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic this is a logged channel. you weren't aware ?
Mar 16 05:57:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6811 @ 0.00070473 = 4.7999 BTC [-]
Mar 16 05:57:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00070369 = 2.7444 BTC [-]
Mar 16 05:57:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9029 @ 0.00070102 = 6.3295 BTC [-]
Mar 16 05:58:01 <midnightmagic>	It is not stated so in the topic, nor in the bitcoin-assets.com page it links to, mircea_popescu.
Mar 16 05:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	yeah well. it's a trade chan.
Mar 16 05:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's purpose is mostly to be quotable.
Mar 16 05:58:50 <midnightmagic>	That is not by Freenode guidelines.
Mar 16 05:59:47 <mircea_popescu>	ya well. now you know.
Mar 16 06:00:38 <midnightmagic>	You are not the channel owner.
Mar 16 06:00:47 <midnightmagic>	And thus are not in a position to make such determinations regardless.
Mar 16 06:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 16 06:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	make a determination as to what dood ?
Mar 16 06:01:19 <midnightmagic>	Channel nature and type.
Mar 16 06:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	you highlighted me with whatever q, i gave you an answer, you don't like mine highlight whoever else next time eh ?!
Mar 16 06:01:45 <midnightmagic>	This is a primary namespace channel and thus technically falls under the Bitcoin FOSS project ownership.
Mar 16 06:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	o get the fuck out already.
Mar 16 06:02:22 <midnightmagic>	I'm making a comment shortly on your blog you may be interested in.
Mar 16 06:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	"i have a whine please pay attention to me rarara"
Mar 16 06:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's uninteresting.
Mar 16 06:02:41 <mircea_popescu>	by all means.
Mar 16 06:02:43 <midnightmagic>	Are you still in Romania?
Mar 16 06:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	yeh.
Mar 16 06:02:57 <midnightmagic>	Good. Then I remember correctly.
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Mar 16 06:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, to the more general point : you're powerless. get used to liking it, cause it ain't changing.
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Mar 16 06:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	the impersonal you i mean. the little vessenes group, bfl, mtgox, what have you in there.
Mar 16 06:05:24 <midnightmagic>	You are quoting me out of context and thus impugning my moral rights under the copyright acts of both our countries.
Mar 16 06:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	so feel free to either sue or fix the context.
Mar 16 06:06:11 <midnightmagic>	No, as per Romanian copyright law I am requesting you remove quotes of mine from your website.
Mar 16 06:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	mkay.
Mar 16 06:07:54 <midnightmagic>	Your site isn't letting me post. How do I convince it I'm a human? I'll flesh out the articles specifically to which I'm referring.
Mar 16 06:08:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+]
Mar 16 06:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic if you instapost it'll block you.
Mar 16 06:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	cause that's what spambots usually do, load page make post
Mar 16 06:08:47 <midnightmagic>	Hrm. I took about 30 minutes to write my comment..?
Mar 16 06:08:54 <midnightmagic>	Maybe it doesn't like Tor.
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Mar 16 06:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	ppl on tor post all the time
Mar 16 06:10:07 <midnightmagic>	Hrm. 3:09 a.m... no, that's correct too.
Mar 16 06:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	it's possible if unlikely your page was marked as stale by the time you clicked ?
Mar 16 06:10:27 <midnightmagic>	Possible. I'll try again.
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Mar 16 06:18:29 <ZedsterX>	geez i am almost gonna give MP some money just so I can see this quote
Mar 16 06:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX try tor.
Mar 16 06:20:39 <ZedsterX>	for what?
Mar 16 06:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 300 @ 0.00181 = 0.543 BTC [+]
Mar 16 06:20:58 <ZedsterX>	i meant i was almost willing to pay your blog price
Mar 16 06:21:00 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Yep, it didn't like Tor.
Mar 16 06:21:24 <midnightmagic>	ZedsterX: It's nothing special at all. It's what he said about it.
Mar 16 06:21:57 <ZedsterX>	hehe just kidding i would never pay to read someones blog not an issue :)
Mar 16 06:22:19 <midnightmagic>	I thought it was a joke at first but it appears he has also mistaken me for a DJ in Wisconsin.
Mar 16 06:22:27 <midnightmagic>	ZedsterX: :)
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Mar 16 06:28:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.849 = 2.547 BTC [+]
Mar 16 06:28:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.849999 = 8.5 BTC [+]
Mar 16 06:29:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.85 = 7.65 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 06:33:51 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: What's the big deal man? I asked you nicely, you said no, I quote you the law of your own country you are breaking by deliberately quoting me out of context and making unfunny, uncritical, non-commentary aspersions on my character, and this is your response? srsly?
Mar 16 06:34:13 <midnightmagic>	It's like.. six lines bro.
Mar 16 06:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	you're obviously missing the context that Trilema has been standing against attempts at internet censorship for half a decade.
Mar 16 06:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	the odds of an article being altered are nil.
Mar 16 06:34:58 <midnightmagic>	You have always been a proponent of legal correctness.
Mar 16 06:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	you honestly imagine you can absue the legal process to impose censorship on blogs ?
Mar 16 06:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	others have tried, and have failed so far, but by all means, if you must.
Mar 16 06:36:05 <midnightmagic>	lol, no, I'm pointing out a legal liability, and requesting that you not quote me, in direct contravention of the policy of the network you enjoy and make money with, for free.
Mar 16 06:36:16 <midnightmagic>	(namely, Freenode)
Mar 16 06:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	last i checked you have a free cloak and i have a silver one. let's keep them aspersions at bay.
Mar 16 06:36:52 <midnightmagic>	You can bury your head in the sand and pretend the law doesn't apply to you and pretend what I'm doing is censorship, and pretend there is no other way, but there is.
Mar 16 06:37:26 <mircea_popescu>	indeed there is. get used to the fact that this channel is a public forum, serving the needs of bitcoin trade
Mar 16 06:38:01 <midnightmagic>	This isn't a public forum, it is not listed as such. You saying it is so, does not make it so. This is primary namespace #bitcoin*, which means it certainly isn't for you to decide what happens here, nor what policy is.
Mar 16 06:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	the needs of the bitcoin circlejerk are served elsewhere.
Mar 16 06:38:34 <midnightmagic>	This particular channel is not, actually a public forum, no matter how many times you think your word is somehow above law.
Mar 16 06:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	listen, i'm not arguing with you. i'm telling you. you don't like what i'm telling you, go argue with somebody else.
Mar 16 06:38:47 <midnightmagic>	lol
Mar 16 06:38:53 <midnightmagic>	Lawless..
Mar 16 06:39:00 <midnightmagic>	Discourteous, uncivil, lawless.
Mar 16 06:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	merely disinterested in nonsense.
Mar 16 06:39:08 <midnightmagic>	Is this your true nature after all?
Mar 16 06:40:05 <midnightmagic>	Are you so mercenary? So sociopathic that you would deny a simple request for the same courtesy I have often showed you without considering the alternatives?
Mar 16 06:40:44 <midnightmagic>	Do you have any idea how many times I've turned down requests for complete logs of your conversations?
Mar 16 06:42:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 971 @ 0.00070102 = 0.6807 BTC [-]
Mar 16 06:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14734 @ 0.00069148 = 10.1883 BTC [-]
Mar 16 06:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069002 = 6.9002 BTC [-]
Mar 16 06:42:50 <midnightmagic>	If you're cool with throwing all the courtesy we've shown each other over the last many months away just because of a few-day spat that stings your ego..
Mar 16 06:43:46 <FabianB>	midnightmagic: why not put it in context in the comment section? i don't think it gets censored either
Mar 16 06:44:14 <midnightmagic>	FabianB: Because that would imply I am fine with it staying up; additionally, if *I* publish it on *his* site then I lose the right to request that it come down.
Mar 16 06:44:28 <midnightmagic>	Or at least..  my request is weakened.
Mar 16 06:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	you have some very interesting legal theories going there.
Mar 16 06:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, since it's on the third mention by now, when did i ask you to delete shit you published ? or what ?
Mar 16 06:45:13 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: It's not legal theory, it's simple human nature at this point. I'm not interested in answering the question, "Why if you wanted it taken down did you repost it right underneath?"
Mar 16 06:45:36 <mircea_popescu>	this "taking down" thing boggles me.
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Mar 16 06:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	where's this come from !?
Mar 16 06:45:58 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: You didn't. I don't publish shit. People ask me for logs of your comments and I think.. "Well people are trying to dig up shit. Probably because they want to harm him. No thanks." And I tell them to fuck off.
Mar 16 06:46:14 <mircea_popescu>	very bad.
Mar 16 06:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	let them have whatever logs, what i say i say because it is, not because it isn't.
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Mar 16 06:47:22 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: No thanks.
Mar 16 06:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck, they can just grow a pair and ask me directly.
Mar 16 06:47:40 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: That's the second reason why I tell them to fuck off.
Mar 16 06:47:47 <Anduck>	hmmm
Mar 16 06:47:52 <Anduck>	do you get free yubikey from mtgox?
Mar 16 06:48:07 <mircea_popescu>	all this mystique and mystery, i hadn't no idea people are like... secretively lurking my chats nao.
Mar 16 06:48:09 <midnightmagic>	Anduck: sometimes, and volume helps.
Mar 16 06:48:12 <Anduck>	i heard something like this but... do i need to be verified?
Mar 16 06:48:17 <Anduck>	ok
Mar 16 06:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck isn't a yubikei like 10 bux, and moreover don't they work on any site ?
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Mar 16 06:48:42 <midnightmagic>	no, and no
Mar 16 06:48:42 <Anduck>	mtgox keys work only on mtgox
Mar 16 06:48:54 <ZedsterX>	Mt.gox yubikey only works for them
Mar 16 06:48:55 <Anduck>	mtgox charges 30 usd for yubikey
Mar 16 06:49:10 <Anduck>	meh
Mar 16 06:49:16 <Anduck>	i'll email dem
Mar 16 06:49:34 <Anduck>	or! i get verifired
Mar 16 06:49:37 <Anduck>	verified*
Mar 16 06:50:07 <Anduck>	but i dont want to :( atleast now
Mar 16 06:50:16 <Anduck>	maybe i'll use software 2fa
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Mar 16 06:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	software 2fa ?!
Mar 16 06:52:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4095 @ 0.00068804 = 2.8175 BTC [-]
Mar 16 06:53:39 <Anduck>	Google Authenticator
Mar 16 06:53:45 <Anduck>	like, a mobile phone app
Mar 16 06:54:04 <Anduck>	2fa= 2-factor auth
Mar 16 06:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	a ga thing ya
Mar 16 06:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00070617 = 4.0958 BTC [+]
Mar 16 07:04:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Mar 16 07:05:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.009861 = 0.0394 BTC [-]
Mar 16 07:05:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.00986 = 0.0394 BTC [-]
Mar 16 07:05:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.00982 = 0.1964 BTC [-]
Mar 16 07:05:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33318 = 0.9995 BTC [-]
Mar 16 07:06:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 07:07:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/72607_10152634902385487_365736104_n.jpg
Mar 16 07:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	once a banker... ever a banker.
Mar 16 07:09:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00071093 = 5.9007 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 07:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.0007106 = 9.0957 BTC [-]
Mar 16 07:31:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.85 = 7.65 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 07:32:40 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/
Mar 16 07:32:51 <Bowjob>	I been watching lately, they sell a lot
Mar 16 07:33:03 <Bowjob>	more sell than buys
Mar 16 07:33:04 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 16 07:33:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 13 @ 0.105 = 1.365 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 07:36:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1000 @ 0.15445864 = 154.4586 BTC [-]
Mar 16 07:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 1000 @ 0.13342614 = 133.4261 BTC [-]
Mar 16 07:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.11500402 = 115.004 BTC [+]
Mar 16 07:36:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C530T] 1000 @ 0.09894671 = 98.9467 BTC
Mar 16 07:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C550T] 1000 @ 0.08501814 = 85.0181 BTC
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Mar 16 07:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 16 07:57:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.52002, Best ask: 46.77899, Bid-ask spread: 0.25897, Last trade: 46.52002, 24 hour volume: 18864.05282020, 24 hour low: 46.27070, 24 hour high: 47.44999, 24 hour vwap: 46.87026
Mar 16 08:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.0007106 = 5.7203 BTC [-]
Mar 16 08:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.0007106 = 3.8372 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 08:26:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 32 @ 0.85 = 27.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 08:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 955 @ 0.00070617 = 0.6744 BTC [-]
Mar 16 08:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00070309 = 16.5226 BTC [-]
Mar 16 08:31:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11595 @ 0.000703 = 8.1513 BTC [-]
Mar 16 08:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00070794 = 1.4159 BTC [+]
Mar 16 08:31:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3296 @ 0.00071093 = 2.3432 BTC [+]
Mar 16 08:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/16/business/global/showdown-looms-over-cyprus-bailout-deal.html
Mar 16 08:36:18 <mircea_popescu>	so basically, the naive got their bank accounts raided.
Mar 16 08:43:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00070556 = 4.692 BTC [-]
Mar 16 08:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00069804 = 13.5071 BTC [-]
Mar 16 08:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news, krugman badly owned by reality. http://www.cnbc.com/id/100558455
Mar 16 08:50:11 <Chaang-Noi>	europe...
Mar 16 08:50:43 <Chaang-Noi>	im glad i moved to a place where the normal currency is gold and we export food.
Mar 16 08:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	sounds sound strategically.
Mar 16 08:52:30 <Chaang-Noi>	try to buy a car here with a credit card and they will look at you like you are a retard....   try to pay in gold, no problem
Mar 16 08:53:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i do wish i held some land, but right now it is over priced here
Mar 16 08:53:45 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool.
Mar 16 08:54:57 <Chaang-Noi>	asean is going to be growing while the west is falling/failing
Mar 16 08:55:52 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer is slowly moving up with decent volume despite paying weekly dividends
Mar 16 08:56:28 <Chaang-Noi>	also is s.dice down to limited? i used to see many more s.dice transactions and now only a few :/
Mar 16 08:57:09 <Chaang-Noi>	block chain dot info used to show like 50% to 755 s dice transactions
Mar 16 08:57:46 <Chaang-Noi>	75%
Mar 16 08:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	always was about half
Mar 16 08:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 16 08:58:20 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.769999 / 0.8115 / 0.85 (466 shares, 378.2 BTC),  7D: 0.65 / 0.76347 / 0.973 (1434 shares, 1094.8 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.72349 / 1 (2550 shares, 1844.9 BTC)
Mar 16 08:58:53 <Chaang-Noi>	the other exchange is getting a bit more volume but a bit lower price
Mar 16 08:59:10 <Chaang-Noi>	if you go look now it is about 1 transaction in like 20
Mar 16 08:59:17 <Chaang-Noi>	for s dice, if that... it is odd
Mar 16 08:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 16 08:59:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i have noticed this over the last 10 hours or so
Mar 16 08:59:59 <Chaang-Noi>	could just be an off day
Mar 16 09:00:01 <mircea_popescu>	i've never kept that close tabs
Mar 16 09:00:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i have not either,
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Mar 16 09:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2480 @ 0.00071093 = 1.7631 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:13:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4520 @ 0.00071108 = 3.2141 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 09:23:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00069831 = 6.9133 BTC [-]
Mar 16 09:28:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00069831 = 10.4747 BTC [-]
Mar 16 09:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P730T] 15 @ 0.56117433 = 8.4176 BTC [-]
Mar 16 09:45:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.889998 = 1.78 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:46:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.889999 = 8.9 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:46:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.939999 = 9.4 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:46:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.9487 = 9.487 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:46:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.9489 = 14.2335 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:47:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9489 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:48:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:49:05 <Chaang-Noi>	go asicminer
Mar 16 09:49:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.9489 = 18.0291 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:50:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17299 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:51:13 <Chaang-Noi>	:D
Mar 16 09:51:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01984 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:51:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01985 = 0.1985 BTC [+]
Mar 16 09:53:58 <kakobrekla>	https://twitter.com/JsSmRenton/status/312912911079194624/photo/1
Mar 16 09:54:06 <Chaang-Noi>	http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/03/15/2250235/brian-krebs-gets-swatted
Mar 16 09:54:29 <Chaang-Noi>	lol kakobrekla
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Mar 16 09:59:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.85 = 3.4 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 10:07:35 <vampireb>	where can you a buy card with a cc?
Mar 16 10:07:45 <vampireb>	i would totally would for bonus points
Mar 16 10:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00070255 = 16.7909 BTC [+]
Mar 16 10:08:16 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 16 10:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005 / 0.00518591 / 0.0058822 (36479 shares, 189.18 BTC), 7D: 0.005 / 0.00552063 / 0.006 (85443 shares, 471.70 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00612241 / 0.0069 (2393043 shares, 14,651.21 BTC)
Mar 16 10:10:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01101 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 10:15:21 <ThickAsThieves>	gawd, reading chatlog here is such a chore when people get dramatic
Mar 16 10:16:37 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer at .95 now?  Nice.
Mar 16 10:16:51 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 16 10:17:01 <Chaang-Noi>	back to .95, was at 1
Mar 16 10:17:09 <kakobrekla>	lets see the faces when it all goes crashing down
Mar 16 10:17:31 <Chaang-Noi>	but we are going well over 1. we will control about 50% of the network for at least 3 months
Mar 16 10:17:51 <ThickAsThieves>	but bfl is releasing next week right?
Mar 16 10:18:05 <Chaang-Noi>	they hope to have their test unit done by then yeah
Mar 16 10:18:21 <Chaang-Noi>	who knows how many months to get their 5000 chips out
Mar 16 10:18:29 <Chaang-Noi>	but even then, only 25 th if lucky
Mar 16 10:18:40 <ThickAsThieves>	5000 was just the first batch
Mar 16 10:18:45 <kakobrekla>	theres 2 more players in the game
Mar 16 10:19:11 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, maybe in 3 months someone else will be able to break asicminer from their 50% lock down...
Mar 16 10:19:15 <Chaang-Noi>	but that is a maybe
Mar 16 10:20:12 <vampireb>	BFL will probably will be releasing slowly.
Mar 16 10:20:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.945 BTC [+]
Mar 16 10:20:18 <vampireb>	I ordered I think in Sep
Mar 16 10:20:33 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl (assuming their stuff works) will not ship all at once
Mar 16 10:20:57 <Chaang-Noi>	1 to 2 months for their 5000 chips, then they need to reload
Mar 16 10:21:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm pretty sure they claimed to be able to work much faster than that no?
Mar 16 10:21:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think sept is in the first batch.
Mar 16 10:21:32 <ThickAsThieves>	not that their claims mean anything
Mar 16 10:21:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.9489 = 3.7956 BTC [+]
Mar 16 10:21:39 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah 4 to 6 weeks from like 1 year ago ready to ship/..
Mar 16 10:24:01 <ThickAsThieves>	why are people paying .95 when AM is on BF for .8?
Mar 16 10:24:11 <Chaang-Noi>	405 of the network for 3 months is .324 btc per share...
Mar 16 10:24:17 <Chaang-Noi>	40%
Mar 16 10:24:30 <Chaang-Noi>	that is a good question, and i dont know
Mar 16 10:24:41 <Chaang-Noi>	but im the seller at .95 and will buy at the other exchange...
Mar 16 10:24:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i heart arb
Mar 16 10:24:48 <ThickAsThieves>	my guess is more outreach is needed by BF
Mar 16 10:25:22 <Chaang-Noi>	iv not been around but i thought bf was the biggest exchange now
Mar 16 10:26:08 <ThickAsThieves>	probably
Mar 16 10:26:43 <ThickAsThieves>	but BTCT volume on AM alone might be challenging that
Mar 16 10:27:06 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 16 10:27:41 <Chaang-Noi>	my shares mosty, it has been pretty good
Mar 16 10:27:56 <Chaang-Noi>	mine were the first 1000 and about 70% of all the others
Mar 16 10:28:18 <Chaang-Noi>	been buying otc at like 30% less of what i have been moving them for on that exchange
Mar 16 10:28:29 <Chaang-Noi>	im really shocked it worked so well for so long
Mar 16 10:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.0007079 = 14.158 BTC [+]
Mar 16 10:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7407 @ 0.00071108 = 5.267 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 10:32:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.9489 = 10.4379 BTC [+]
Mar 16 10:32:52 <Chaang-Noi>	180 gone on bitfunder
Mar 16 10:33:10 <MJR_>	hi all
Mar 16 10:33:16 <Chaang-Noi>	if it is still there in a few mins ill buy the rest
Mar 16 10:33:20 <Chaang-Noi>	hi mjr
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Mar 16 10:38:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: will do on the vwap cleanup
Mar 16 10:38:23 <MJR_>	what's asicminers returns like?
Mar 16 10:38:37 <MJR_>	!ticker
Mar 16 10:38:38 <assbot>	Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
Mar 16 10:39:29 <ThickAsThieves>	mjr, these are the last 3 divs
Mar 16 10:39:29 <ThickAsThieves>	฿0.02378654 ฿0.01917149 ฿0.02354460
Mar 16 10:39:49 <ThickAsThieves>	once dive add up to .1, divs get cut in half
Mar 16 10:39:59 <ThickAsThieves>	dive=div
Mar 16 10:40:35 <ThickAsThieves>	divs are weekly
Mar 16 10:41:02 <MJR_>	why do they cut in half?
Mar 16 10:41:49 <ThickAsThieves>	because AM isnbt paying their own shares til then
Mar 16 10:41:53 <ThickAsThieves>	and they own half
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Mar 16 10:42:50 <MJR_>	cool
Mar 16 10:43:51 <ThickAsThieves>	someone should tell evoorhees SDICE needs a jolt
Mar 16 10:44:15 <ThickAsThieves>	bring back whalebot
Mar 16 10:44:45 <kakobrekla>	just go play less than 1
Mar 16 10:49:10 <vampireb>	ohh starcraft is out
Mar 16 10:49:13 <smickles>	< Bowjob> you dont have to if you just keep the coins << (it being taxes) it you do that enough to be noticed and audited you're fucked. they'll say you should've been treating bitcoin as barter all along, you'll have a few k of taxes owed and 10s of k in fines
Mar 16 10:49:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9675 @ 0.00071108 = 6.8797 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 10:59:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5098 @ 0.00071108 = 3.6251 BTC [+]
Mar 16 10:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9502 @ 0.00071181 = 6.7636 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 11:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.99 = 3.98 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 11:05:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2038 @ 0.00070255 = 1.4318 BTC [-]
Mar 16 11:05:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13783 @ 0.00070066 = 9.6572 BTC [-]
Mar 16 11:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23279 @ 0.00070015 = 16.2988 BTC [-]
Mar 16 11:07:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 11:16:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17299 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 11:18:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 13 @ 0.105 = 1.365 BTC [+]
Mar 16 11:20:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.005198 = 0.7797 BTC [-]
Mar 16 11:20:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 560 @ 0.005199 = 2.9114 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 11:24:25 <MJR_>	BitHub: hi
Mar 16 11:24:46 <BitHub>	Hello
Mar 16 11:24:48 <MJR_>	anyone seen namworld lately?
Mar 16 11:25:04 <kakobrekla>	;;seen namworld
Mar 16 11:25:05 <gribble>	namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 37 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <Namworld> Night all.
Mar 16 11:27:11 <Anduck>	wow
Mar 16 11:27:15 <Anduck>	asicminer @ 0.94
Mar 16 11:27:17 <Anduck>	:D
Mar 16 11:27:50 <MJR_>	on btctc it's .8 on bitfunder :)
Mar 16 11:27:56 <Anduck>	yep
Mar 16 11:28:05 <Anduck>	i sold mine a little too cheap i think
Mar 16 11:28:15 <Anduck>	well, i got nice profits so whatever =)
Mar 16 11:28:15 <Anduck>	im cool
Mar 16 11:28:52 <MJR_>	no one ever went broke taking profits :)
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Mar 16 11:29:22 <kakobrekla>	thats just stupid thing to say.
Mar 16 11:31:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 97 @ 0.0054 = 0.5238 BTC [+]
Mar 16 11:32:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00071181 = 22.6356 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 11:38:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00541 BTC [+]
Mar 16 11:38:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.005404 = 0.5404 BTC [-]
Mar 16 11:39:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 302 @ 0.00541 = 1.6338 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 11:40:37 <Evan_>	!help
Mar 16 11:40:37 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 16 11:40:38 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 16 11:40:39 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 16 11:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00070763 = 19.7429 BTC [-]
Mar 16 11:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00071181 = 0.2847 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 11:47:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 16 11:47:39 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 5768719.44091 based on data since last change | 5650760.38918 based on data for last three days
Mar 16 11:52:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.88 = 1.76 BTC [-]
Mar 16 11:53:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17642 @ 0.00070501 = 12.4378 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 11:56:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99 BTC [-]
Mar 16 11:59:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1125 @ 0.00070327 = 0.7912 BTC [-]
Mar 16 11:59:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26630 @ 0.00071181 = 18.9555 BTC [+]
Mar 16 11:59:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9061 @ 0.00071738 = 6.5002 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 12:09:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00070015 = 7.3166 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:11:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.2597 = 0.5194 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:12:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+]
Mar 16 12:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.54 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Mar 16 12:22:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00071738 = 12.3389 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 12:36:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 12:41:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00070818 = 5.1697 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:41:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00070675 = 15.2658 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 12:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.53001 = 1.59 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.530001 = 2.65 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.53000001 = 3.71 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.522 = 1.044 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.521 = 1.563 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.52 = 5.2 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5151 = 1.5453 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.51501 = 1.545 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.515 = 10.3 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.513 = 2.052 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.512 = 4.096 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.511 = 4.599 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5105 = 2.5525 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.5102 = 3.0612 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5101 = 2.0404 BTC [-]
Mar 16 12:45:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 77 @ 0.51 = 39.27 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 12:49:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00070675 = 5.972 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 12:58:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16555 @ 0.00070418 = 11.6577 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 13:23:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2639 @ 0.00071738 = 1.8932 BTC [+]
Mar 16 13:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00071767 = 6.6026 BTC [+]
Mar 16 13:23:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7311 @ 0.00071815 = 5.2504 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 13:29:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 16 @ 0.105 = 1.68 BTC [+]
Mar 16 13:30:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 33 @ 0.105 = 3.465 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 14:04:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]
Mar 16 14:05:14 <OgNasty>	quiet in here today...
Mar 16 14:06:00 <kakobrekla>	indeed
Mar 16 14:06:10 <OgNasty>	[NastyFans.org] [NASTY MINING] 2 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
Mar 16 14:06:11 <OgNasty>	lol
Mar 16 14:06:23 <kakobrekla>	errybody silently waiting for the weekend dump
Mar 16 14:06:43 <OgNasty>	I'm prepping myself for green beer...
Mar 16 14:09:29 <OgNasty>	Still say assbot should list NastyFans trades...  Sucks to be lumped in with the BS gigamining has going...  Just sayin'
Mar 16 14:10:07 <kakobrekla>	yeah, this is -assets, not -fans kinda.
Mar 16 14:10:23 <OgNasty>	what's in a name?
Mar 16 14:10:43 <kakobrekla>	ass bot doesnt cover fan sites
Mar 16 14:11:08 <OgNasty>	so the inclusion of the word fan makes it not an asset in your mind?
Mar 16 14:11:28 <kakobrekla>	im not sure at this point.
Mar 16 14:11:52 <OgNasty>	"In financial accounting, assets are economic resources. Anything tangible or intangible that is capable of being owned or controlled to produce value and that is held to have positive economic value is considered an asset. Simply stated, assets represent value of ownership that can be converted into cash (although cash itself is also considered an asset)."
Mar 16 14:12:14 <kakobrekla>	i dont see what that has to do with nasty fans?
Mar 16 14:12:40 <OgNasty>	NastyFans seats are capable of being owned to produce value and ownership can be converted into cash.
Mar 16 14:12:52 <OgNasty>	It fits the definition of an asset.
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Mar 16 14:13:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00071201 = 3.204 BTC [-]
Mar 16 14:14:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6681 @ 0.00071815 = 4.798 BTC [+]
Mar 16 14:14:08 *	OgNasty thinks perhaps kakobrekla doesn't understand what NastyFans seats are.
Mar 16 14:14:19 <OgNasty>	Maybe I should donate one to you so you can see for yourself?
Mar 16 14:15:29 <kakobrekla>	nasty seats? dunno we are asset traders here and what not, not fans of anything in particular
Mar 16 14:15:36 *	fishfish is now known as fishfish|AFK
Mar 16 14:15:55 <FabianB>	a company, a stock, an option, a future, an etf?
Mar 16 14:16:01 <kakobrekla>	fishfish|AFK !!
Mar 16 14:16:02 *	fishfish|AFK is now known as fishfish
Mar 16 14:16:11 <OgNasty>	I don't think you're ignorant enough to be caught up on a naming convention.  So I assume you have an alterior motive.
Mar 16 14:16:45 <fishfish>	yes kakobrekla
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Mar 16 14:17:11 <kakobrekla>	no afk plox tyvm.
Mar 16 14:17:50 <kakobrekla>	OgNasty can you answer the FabianBs question-s
Mar 16 14:17:59 <kakobrekla>	ill be back in like 20 min or so
Mar 16 14:18:03 <OgNasty>	It is an asset.
Mar 16 14:18:35 <FabianB>	what kind of (in financial terms)
Mar 16 14:18:55 <OgNasty>	for legal reasons I'd rather let people figure that out on their own
Mar 16 14:19:12 <OgNasty>	Check this out...
Mar 16 14:19:30 <OgNasty>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0
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Mar 16 14:20:25 <OgNasty>	18% yield... etc...
Mar 16 14:21:43 <FabianB>	then you might have to figure that out first
Mar 16 14:22:10 <OgNasty>	I have everything figured out.  ;)
Mar 16 14:23:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.9 = 13.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 14:25:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 42 @ 0.00532425 = 0.2236 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 14:31:13 <OgNasty>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140769.0  <--  Why won't assbot list the 3rd most popular bitcoin asset?  Story at 11.  lol.  "Uhh... I think dude that runs it can't grasp the name of the asset or something"
Mar 16 14:33:42 <pigeons>	i don't even look at a thread when i see the word nastyfans cause i ain't a fan and im sure there are others
Mar 16 14:34:18 <OgNasty>	pigeons: sounds like you are an excellent finacial guru.  You should share that wisdom with Warren Buffet.
Mar 16 14:34:21 <pigeons>	anyway, have you offered to push data to assbot (assuming nastyfans is a relevant asset)
Mar 16 14:34:32 <OgNasty>	Yes, I have.
Mar 16 14:34:59 <pigeons>	i'm not claiming to be a financial guru. i'm stating a fact that calling something nastyfans is retarded
Mar 16 14:35:12 <OgNasty>	I think judging something on a name is retarded.
Mar 16 14:35:20 <OgNasty>	Wonder who's logic is more sound.
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Mar 16 14:37:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00070827 = 0.7083 BTC [-]
Mar 16 14:37:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3674 @ 0.00070826 = 2.6021 BTC [-]
Mar 16 14:37:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3626 @ 0.00070825 = 2.5681 BTC [-]
Mar 16 14:37:51 <OgNasty>	"The yield on that asset is over 18%?  Wow.  Too bad I don't like the name."  - No serious investor ever
Mar 16 14:40:06 <pigeons>	well, i know for legal reasons you won't tell us what it is, but what would you say someone else might call it
Mar 16 14:40:29 <pigeons>	pre-paid mining?
Mar 16 14:40:35 <OgNasty>	I think most people would describe it as a company.
Mar 16 14:40:43 <pigeons>	"NASTYFANS: THE UNOFFICIAL NASTY MINING FANCLUB"
Mar 16 14:40:49 <OgNasty>	We have other revenue sources in development besides just mining.
Mar 16 14:40:53 <pigeons>	and really, you are suprised no one bothers to look?
Mar 16 14:41:05 <OgNasty>	lots of people look
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Mar 16 14:41:16 <OgNasty>	we have hundreds of individual asset owners.
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Mar 16 14:41:45 <pigeons>	fan club members
Mar 16 14:42:15 <OgNasty>	why the name hang up?
Mar 16 14:42:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
Mar 16 14:42:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.9 = 9 BTC [+]
Mar 16 14:42:44 <pigeons>	not interested in joining a fan club for a miner
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Mar 16 14:43:36 <OgNasty>	even if the fan club donates bitcoins to you?
Mar 16 14:43:38 <pigeons>	i looked at the forum links you posted, couldnt find anything bout the 18% (per annum?) or any details. i do not doubt these returns, just interested in taking your advice and looking at it
Mar 16 14:43:51 <OgNasty>	it's all public on the site and the thread.
Mar 16 14:43:56 <OgNasty>	you didn't see the stats
Mar 16 14:44:09 <OgNasty>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0
Mar 16 14:44:10 <pigeons>	the site is just a login page
Mar 16 14:44:13 <OgNasty>	lots of stats right there
Mar 16 14:44:40 <pigeons>	i looked through several of the 48 pages and still don't see
Mar 16 14:44:43 <OgNasty>	I'd say more stats and transparency than ANY OTHER asset.
Mar 16 14:44:45 <OgNasty>	Try page 1
Mar 16 14:44:47 <OgNasty>	the OP
Mar 16 14:45:32 <pigeons>	nope don't see anything
Mar 16 14:45:53 <pigeons>	more transparent than s.dice? where everyone sees all the money going in and out?
Mar 16 14:46:39 <OgNasty>	Every independent test I've seen done on s.dice shows that the amount of return they promise is a great deal from real returns.
Mar 16 14:46:53 <OgNasty>	whereas everything listed on my thread is factual.
Mar 16 14:47:18 <OgNasty>	but you can't see it, so I guess your ignorance is understandable.
Mar 16 14:47:29 <OgNasty>	reading OPs is hard for trolls.
Mar 16 14:47:42 <pigeons>	they promise 100% of returns and you get them
Mar 16 14:47:54 <pigeons>	independently verified, dooglus does a good job
Mar 16 14:47:55 <OgNasty>	go make a few bets then... haha
Mar 16 14:48:11 <pigeons>	we are talking about assets not gambling sites
Mar 16 14:48:24 <OgNasty>	exactly
Mar 16 14:48:25 <pigeons>	maybe i'm confused, that's waht the nasty fan club is
Mar 16 14:48:51 <OgNasty>	you are confused for sure.  whether or not you are just trolling me is what I'm trying to decypher.
Mar 16 14:48:52 <pigeons>	please show me something indicating the return from s.dice profits is any less
Mar 16 14:49:16 <pigeons>	how did they cheat that? someone bet to a secret address?
Mar 16 14:49:25 <OgNasty>	go make 100 bets on the 97% address and see what your return is for yourself.
Mar 16 14:49:45 <OgNasty>	I'm not an independent auditor and I don't even care about S.DICE.  I do my gambling at a casino, it's a social thing.
Mar 16 14:49:58 <OgNasty>	S.DICE is profitting off the ignorance of the socially inept.
Mar 16 14:50:17 <OgNasty>	Which I'm fine with, but can't figure out why I should care.
Mar 16 14:50:46 <pigeons>	i'm not talking about return on bets
Mar 16 14:51:05 <OgNasty>	whatcu talkin' bout willis?
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Mar 16 14:51:07 <pigeons>	you said your asset was more transparent
Mar 16 14:51:38 <OgNasty>	Where is the page showing the P/E ratio of S.DICE shares, or the yield?
Mar 16 14:51:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00071815 = 1.0413 BTC [+]
Mar 16 14:51:43 <pigeons>	it seems 100% of s.dice profits go to shareholders, and no one is disputing that
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Mar 16 14:51:51 <pigeons>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dHB2dVdiaEltUHAtTWlBcFhXQVBYeGc#gid=0
Mar 16 14:52:13 <pigeons>	except you
Mar 16 14:52:20 <pigeons>	not even eskimobob
Mar 16 14:52:24 <OgNasty>	manually entered google spreadsheet does not equal transparency.
Mar 16 14:52:36 <OgNasty>	Literally any numbers could be listed there...
Mar 16 14:53:05 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1153334#msg1153334
Mar 16 14:53:37 <pigeons>	i'm not in the satoshi dice fan club, but you stated that your fan club is the most transparent asset out there, and here is one we can compare
Mar 16 14:54:14 <pigeons>	which pools do you mine on?
Mar 16 14:54:19 <OgNasty>	lots of manually entered numbers...
Mar 16 14:54:29 <OgNasty>	If I show you pretty numbers will you send me all your BTC?
Mar 16 14:54:30 <OgNasty>	lol
Mar 16 14:54:41 <pigeons>	i've checked the numbers myself, as have several in here
Mar 16 14:54:45 <OgNasty>	I mine on lots of pools...
Mar 16 14:55:04 <pigeons>	i've never heard anyone talk about your fan club, and i thought maybe i will check some of the numbers if the pools are exposing that information
Mar 16 14:55:29 <OgNasty>	well, with nastyfans everything is automated with numbers coming from 3rd parties.  there is no need to check anything...  the numbers come from where you'd check...
Mar 16 14:55:37 <pigeons>	cool, link?
Mar 16 14:55:41 <OgNasty>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0
Mar 16 14:55:46 <OgNasty>	3rd time's the charm?
Mar 16 14:55:54 <pigeons>	i looked at that, just a bunch of manually entered numbers, and not hte ones im looking for
Mar 16 14:56:24 <pigeons>	ok i looked again, seriously there is no information there whatsover about your mining profits
Mar 16 14:56:26 <OgNasty>	those aren't manually entered numbers
Mar 16 14:56:52 <OgNasty>	those are images... updated in real time with stats from the operation.
Mar 16 14:57:04 <OgNasty>	the actual transactions and all that is on the nastyfans.org site.
Mar 16 14:57:09 <OgNasty>	available for members to see.
Mar 16 14:57:27 <pigeons>	well, best of luck to you sir
Mar 16 14:57:31 <pigeons>	thanks for the info
Mar 16 14:57:33 <OgNasty>	showing every donation and the path they all take... more info than any sane human would care to sift through, hence the automated stats.
Mar 16 14:58:48 <OgNasty>	Not only that, but by not pretending to be a bank and refusing to hold BTC, our exchange is far superior to the competition.  Which is why I suspect people in here are threatened by it.  ;)
Mar 16 14:59:48 <pigeons>	honestly, i don't think people feel threatened. i think it doesn't look interesting to anyone here
Mar 16 14:59:51 <pigeons>	https://nastyfans.org/about
Mar 16 15:00:57 <OgNasty>	When an asset that yields over 18% doesn't look interesting to you, something is wrong.  You are entitled to your opinion though.  Not all of us have decades of asset management under our belts I guess...
Mar 16 15:01:38 <pigeons>	how are we to know that your fan club yields over 18% a year. and yes i read your forum post
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Mar 16 15:02:04 <OgNasty>	you could look at the donation distributions and do the math if you don't trust the numbers on the OP...
Mar 16 15:02:06 <pigeons>	you wondered why no one in here is interested, and i think i'm pretty accurate in the reasons
Mar 16 15:02:17 <pigeons>	that doesnt mean your asset isnt a good deal or accurate
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Mar 16 15:02:28 <OgNasty>	your only reason is that you don't like the name...
Mar 16 15:02:37 <OgNasty>	every other statement you've made is inaccurate.
Mar 16 15:02:54 <pigeons>	i dont like the name enough to sign up for a site that looks exactly like all the scams out there
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Mar 16 15:03:47 <OgNasty>	this isn't new... been operating almost a year...
Mar 16 15:03:53 <pigeons>	you can be upset people aren't giving your fan club a fair chance because of surface misconceptions, but that is happening
Mar 16 15:03:59 <OgNasty>	http://blockchain.info/address/1EwtTKJaXAtctSFqCQKU3LiCg9dqYPEkxN    <--  feel free to check out the donation chains.
Mar 16 15:04:11 <pigeons>	yeah i saw you in the forum a year ago, and it wasnt interesting
Mar 16 15:04:12 <OgNasty>	people are giving it a fair chance...
Mar 16 15:04:14 <pigeons>	bah mining bonds
Mar 16 15:04:22 <OgNasty>	it isn't a mining bond... lol
Mar 16 15:04:27 <pigeons>	what is it
Mar 16 15:04:34 <pigeons>	i read your post it says its a fan club
Mar 16 15:04:36 <OgNasty>	a smart investor would know.
Mar 16 15:04:44 <pigeons>	that's what pirate folks said
Mar 16 15:04:50 <pigeons>	i cant tell you your not smart enough
Mar 16 15:05:10 <OgNasty>	not if you can't use "you're" correctly.  haha
Mar 16 15:05:12 <pigeons>	ok im not smart enough to know how a fan club can pay me money
Mar 16 15:05:24 <pigeons>	i'm hoping to hearing bout it
Mar 16 15:05:29 <OgNasty>	simple concept.
Mar 16 15:05:36 <OgNasty>	you join fan club and own a seat
Mar 16 15:05:43 <OgNasty>	I mine coins and donate them to the fan club
Mar 16 15:05:58 <OgNasty>	fan club distributes the donated coins to members based on the number of seats
Mar 16 15:06:16 <pigeons>	thank you. not interested.
Mar 16 15:07:05 <OgNasty>	I'm not trying to get you interested.  I just wanted to know what kind of bureaucracy was behind not listing nasty trades by assbot.
Mar 16 15:07:28 <pigeons>	basically its not interesting
Mar 16 15:07:43 <OgNasty>	I disagree.
Mar 16 15:07:53 <OgNasty>	it is more interesting than 90% of the stuff listed by assbot.
Mar 16 15:07:54 <pigeons>	do you have a channel you stream them to so people don't have to register for the fan club?
Mar 16 15:08:06 <OgNasty>	the trades?  yes.
Mar 16 15:08:12 <pigeons>	cool, that's a start
Mar 16 15:08:14 <OgNasty>	https://nastyfans.org/buys.csv
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Mar 16 15:08:34 <OgNasty>	people who choose to list their assets publicly are: https://nastyfans.org/list.csv
Mar 16 15:08:48 <OgNasty>	Again, all on the OP of my thread.
Mar 16 15:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.99 = 3.98 BTC [-]
Mar 16 15:09:03 <OgNasty>	Should I post that link a 4th time? lol
Mar 16 15:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.99 = 3.98 BTC [-]
Mar 16 15:09:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.999 = 19.99 BTC [+]
Mar 16 15:09:11 <pigeons>	no maybe you should re-write it though
Mar 16 15:09:36 <OgNasty>	smarter people than you or I are behind the writing and there are reasons for it.
Mar 16 15:10:09 <OgNasty>	these bitcoin assets are in fantasyland with their naming conventions...
Mar 16 15:10:38 <OgNasty>	I have enough experience with publicly traded assets to know that it's all BS and the exchanges will fold just like GLBSE when pressure gets put on them.
Mar 16 15:11:42 <OgNasty>	Don't act like my asset is "stupid" and "not interesting" because I'm prepared for the "when" while everyone else is thinking about the "if"
Mar 16 15:13:24 <pigeons>	its not interesting cause i thought its a mining bond. you tell me its not a mining bond but you wont tell me what it is. it has nothing to do with that you think legal issues go away ...cause fanclub
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Mar 16 15:15:10 <OgNasty>	well, then wait and see what we have in store next and maybe it will be more interesting and you'll become a fan.
Mar 16 15:16:08 <pigeons>	alright. thanks for the information
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Mar 16 15:17:57 <OgNasty>	If we were to be looked at as a mining bond, then an accurate claim might be that we're a mining bond which will increase from 1mh/s to 42mh/s over the coming 6 months.  ;)  So if difficulty jumps by 40x and BTC price falls, it would be a bad bond to buy (but it isn't a bond, it's an operation).
Mar 16 15:18:41 <pigeons>	yes i see mining operation would be more accurate than mining bond
Mar 16 15:18:48 <OgNasty>	With that being said, until the next time I grace this channel to again question the validity of not listing the 3rd most popular asset.  :)
Mar 16 15:18:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 914 @ 0.00071815 = 0.6564 BTC [+]
Mar 16 15:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4736 @ 0.00071954 = 3.4077 BTC [+]
Mar 16 15:19:25 <OgNasty>	Hopefully next time our market value will be in the millions.  ;)  Happy St. Paddy's Day tomorrow.  Stay safe.
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Mar 16 15:20:20 <pigeons>	well kakobrekla, why aren't you listing it?
Mar 16 15:21:05 <Anduck>	what weere ognasty talking about
Mar 16 15:21:05 <Anduck>	?
Mar 16 15:21:23 <Anduck>	what asset+
Mar 16 15:21:23 <Anduck>	?
Mar 16 15:21:30 <pigeons>	ognasty would like his fan club trades to be streamed to this channel
Mar 16 15:21:40 <Anduck>	hmm?
Mar 16 15:21:42 <Anduck>	why not?
Mar 16 15:22:09 <pigeons>	i asked kako above
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Mar 16 15:24:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9864 @ 0.00071954 = 7.0975 BTC [+]
Mar 16 15:24:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9246 @ 0.00071961 = 6.6535 BTC [+]
Mar 16 15:29:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00071809 = 5.2062 BTC [-]
Mar 16 15:39:33 <kakobrekla>	cause the lame-o-meter reads too high.
Mar 16 15:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	<OgNasty> I have enough experience with publicly traded assets to know that it's all BS and the exchanges will fold just like GLBSE when pressure gets put on them. <<
Mar 16 15:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	document that please ?
Mar 16 15:41:26 <mircea_popescu>	<Chaang-Noi> but that is a maybe << avalon is doing about as well, ain't it ?
Mar 16 15:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	<ThickAsThieves> why are people paying .95 when AM is on BF for .8? << prolly cause bf won't stream ?
Mar 16 15:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	<OgNasty> I'd say more stats and transparency than ANY OTHER asset. << now you're just being an ass.
Mar 16 15:45:19 <mircea_popescu>	o, he conveniently left. heh.
Mar 16 15:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 4 @ 0.23 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Mar 16 15:50:13 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 16 15:51:09 <pigeons>	who knew securites law allows you to circumvent by calling your operation a fan club
Mar 16 15:51:40 <kakobrekla>	for the record
Mar 16 15:51:41 <kakobrekla>	20:45.49 ( kakobrekla ) also im not even thinking of listing someone who is not at least semi active in assets
Mar 16 15:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	actually reviewing my logs, this guy is on the record logging in under a fake name but with his own ip to "cast aspersions on my morality" or somesuch.
Mar 16 15:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	weird character.
Mar 16 15:53:22 <kakobrekla>	which name?
Mar 16 15:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	1 sec
Mar 16 15:54:35 <kakobrekla>	was it nefario?
Mar 16 15:54:39 <kakobrekla>	muahah.
Mar 16 15:54:46 <smickles>	lol
Mar 16 15:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/wD0S2g8x
Mar 16 15:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	bastone, as it turns out.
Mar 16 15:57:07 <kakobrekla>	;;seen bastone
Mar 16 15:57:07 <gribble>	bastone was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 6 days, 0 hours, 2 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Bastone> I'm not going to take the time to look it up.
Mar 16 15:57:23 <kakobrekla>	well im not going to take the time to look up nasty so FU
Mar 16 15:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	Sep 30 22:32:36 <mircea_popescu>        this glbse thing you ask about is a blip.
Mar 16 15:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	jesus i rule, in retrospe4ct.
Mar 16 15:57:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009989 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Mar 16 15:58:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [-]
Mar 16 15:58:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-]
Mar 16 15:58:08 <smickles>	Sep 30 22:32:36 <mircea_popescu>        this glbse thing you ask about is a blip.
Mar 16 15:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i remember he had a god awful logo but upon suggestion fixed it. perhaps in time
Mar 16 15:58:34 <kakobrekla>	you call that fixed?
Mar 16 15:59:31 <kakobrekla>	want, you dont see green?
Mar 16 15:59:37 <kakobrekla>	wait*
Mar 16 15:59:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00071961 = 6.6924 BTC [+]
Mar 16 16:00:01 <mircea_popescu>	im colorblind.
Mar 16 16:00:03 <kakobrekla>	dollars dont interest mp.
Mar 16 16:00:33 <kakobrekla>	yeah it would be better gray only
Mar 16 16:00:43 <kakobrekla>	lucky.
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Mar 16 16:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	aand deposits flushed
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Mar 16 16:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00071961 = 2.5906 BTC [+]
Mar 16 16:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4911 @ 0.00071961 = 3.534 BTC [+]
Mar 16 16:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1889 @ 0.00072266 = 1.3651 BTC [+]
Mar 16 16:16:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i missed this whole ognasty conversation, I must have him blocked from some other name too (and ive only been here a couple mos or so)
Mar 16 16:17:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm guessing that Bicknelski guy
Mar 16 16:17:19 <ThickAsThieves>	or however it was spelled
Mar 16 16:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	the drama is strong today it seems
Mar 16 16:24:37 <ThickAsThieves>	BG still beating BCTC on AM 24-hr volume ฿476 to ฿320
Mar 16 16:25:06 <ThickAsThieves>	BG=BF
Mar 16 16:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol this sounds like a bet.
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Mar 16 16:31:19 <ThickAsThieves>	I'd rather see "Asicminer shares will reach ฿1.25 BTC"
Mar 16 16:31:31 <ThickAsThieves>	or such
Mar 16 16:31:39 <ThickAsThieves>	what's a good amount?
Mar 16 16:31:55 <ThickAsThieves>	at about .87 now
Mar 16 16:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	ill bet you they don't pass 1.
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Mar 16 16:37:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00072266 = 12.5382 BTC [+]
Mar 16 16:38:00 <ThickAsThieves>	how much?
Mar 16 16:39:36 <mircea_popescu>	make a bet lol
Mar 16 16:39:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i submitted 1.35
Mar 16 16:40:28 <ThickAsThieves>	but thats more the community to ponder
Mar 16 16:40:32 <ThickAsThieves>	i wouldnt bet that high
Mar 16 16:40:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i would bet on 1 though
Mar 16 16:40:53 <ThickAsThieves>	hell, someone could take it up to 1 today with 200btc
Mar 16 16:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	hm that;s a point
Mar 16 16:54:37 <jurov>	kakobrekla, speaking about BF, did you come to some conclusion with ukto about streaming trades?
Mar 16 16:54:55 <kakobrekla>	he asked for spec i have him spec
Mar 16 16:55:03 <kakobrekla>	gave*
Mar 16 16:55:12 <kakobrekla>	fuck ze kezyboard.
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Mar 16 16:57:16 <jurov>	if that's nasty non-mining-bond is so good, why no passthroughs then?
Mar 16 16:57:29 <jurov>	it should have 5 each on bf and btct
Mar 16 16:57:46 <ThickAsThieves>	kako, is web sockets something you'll just end up implementing inevitably anyway?
Mar 16 16:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.0019 = 9.5 BTC [+]
Mar 16 16:58:07 <kakobrekla>	for assbot?
Mar 16 16:58:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.00195 = 9.75 BTC [+]
Mar 16 16:58:21 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Mar 16 16:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00072266 = 1.8428 BTC [+]
Mar 16 16:58:40 <ThickAsThieves>	like is it a sensible progression
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Mar 16 16:59:11 <kakobrekla>	well, the rate of posting would need to be high to justify it, but then again then its questionable if irc can handle that
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Mar 16 17:00:02 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder how long it will be til that becomes a problem
Mar 16 17:00:10 <kakobrekla>	probably never
Mar 16 17:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	irc is a 1 second/line rule iirc
Mar 16 17:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	and they're not likely to change it. we would have to make our own irc server/equiv of freenode first
Mar 16 17:00:38 <mircea_popescu>	which is not undoable but certainly not called for yet
Mar 16 17:00:40 <kakobrekla>	you can do more in a row
Mar 16 17:00:49 <ThickAsThieves>	or just have a web page the streams
Mar 16 17:00:51 <kakobrekla>	but if you go over 1 a sec over prolonged period
Mar 16 17:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla still, that's what they recomend
Mar 16 17:00:53 <kakobrekla>	you have problem
Mar 16 17:00:54 <kakobrekla>	s
Mar 16 17:00:56 <kakobrekla>	also
Mar 16 17:01:10 <kakobrekla>	it will be impossible to chat
Mar 16 17:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	kak ya i imagine assbot will stop streaming and make hourly update summaries or somesuch
Mar 16 17:01:39 <kakobrekla>	theres -assets-trades
Mar 16 17:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2210 @ 0.00197 = 4.3537 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.001975 = 9.875 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.00198 = 9.9 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:01:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 740 @ 0.001985 = 1.4689 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Mar 16 17:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 7050 @ 0.002014 = 14.1987 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news, bbet beats asicminer
Mar 16 17:03:24 <kakobrekla>	those were ipo shares
Mar 16 17:03:31 <kakobrekla>	at least ending with.
Mar 16 17:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	o ipo got hit ? sweet.
Mar 16 17:09:38 <kakobrekla>	o wait no
Mar 16 17:09:49 <kakobrekla>	not sure at least
Mar 16 17:10:00 <kakobrekla>	someone made 10k blocks priced differently
Mar 16 17:10:15 <kakobrekla>	what a trick.
Mar 16 17:10:51 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 16 17:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	interesting concept
Mar 16 17:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder
Mar 16 17:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	hm, do you suppose he was like "o, they're buying their own shares" ?
Mar 16 17:11:36 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 16 17:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	maybe just wanted to blend in for aesthetic reasons
Mar 16 17:12:00 <kakobrekla>	:DD
Mar 16 17:12:10 <kakobrekla>	a big wall would look scarier
Mar 16 17:12:15 <kakobrekla>	1 satoshi diff makes it better
Mar 16 17:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	you know that may be right
Mar 16 17:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	we're gonna end up with a degree in field psychology from watching btc trading
Mar 16 17:12:58 <kakobrekla>	:DD
Mar 16 17:13:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6124 @ 0.00072266 = 4.4256 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:13:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13976 @ 0.00072268 = 10.1002 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:13:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i definitely use tricks in pricing
Mar 16 17:14:04 <pigeons>	i just decide what i'm willing to pay for each fan club and offer that
Mar 16 17:14:19 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Mar 16 17:15:06 <jurov>	it's field psychiatry in some cases
Mar 16 17:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	jurov :p
Mar 16 17:15:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:18:15 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153979.0
Mar 16 17:18:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.9 = 17.1 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:18:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.9 = 1.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 17:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 16 17:19:08 <MJR_>	lol what is up with the fan club thing?
Mar 16 17:19:35 <kakobrekla>	dunno, that whole thing seems nasty.
Mar 16 17:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ i have no idea.
Mar 16 17:20:25 <mircea_popescu>	im not even sure what the thing is. i hate these sites that make you log in
Mar 16 17:20:37 <MJR_>	yeah
Mar 16 17:20:44 <pigeons>	if you were a smart investor, you'd know ;)
Mar 16 17:20:54 <MJR_>	hahaha
Mar 16 17:20:56 <kakobrekla>	pigeons stop cranking me up
Mar 16 17:21:06 <kakobrekla>	people will come knocking for comedy show
Mar 16 17:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 16 17:21:33 <pigeons>	i'm here all week, tip your assbot
Mar 16 17:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	im not an investor at all, im just the devil of bitcoin.
Mar 16 17:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, how long till satoshi comes back from the heavens to banish the devil ? it could make nice paintings and all.
Mar 16 17:22:20 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 16 17:22:34 <MJR_>	could satoshi prove he was satoshi?
Mar 16 17:22:34 <kakobrekla>	the cryber christ.
Mar 16 17:22:49 <kakobrekla>	singing with the coins for first block should do it
Mar 16 17:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	the saint georgecoin
Mar 16 17:22:54 <kakobrekla>	from
Mar 16 17:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	or would it be coingeorge ?
Mar 16 17:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	hell... maybe boy george had it sorta right all along
Mar 16 17:23:25 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 16 17:23:37 <MJR_>	well that is unless he spent them all
Mar 16 17:24:25 <MJR_>	hmmm, wait he'd only need to sign a message from that address
Mar 16 17:24:43 <kakobrekla>	well yea
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Mar 16 17:25:05 <MJR_>	not actually have any coins in it
Mar 16 17:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	if he still has the wallet.
Mar 16 17:25:19 <kakobrekla>	yeah just priv key from that addy
Mar 16 17:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	course it wasn't encrypted at  the time
Mar 16 17:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	so a good argument could be made someone else found it
Mar 16 17:25:40 <kakobrekla>	iirc those coins are still there
Mar 16 17:26:13 <kakobrekla>	i dont give enough shit to check
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Mar 16 17:27:41 <MJR_>	it's funny though, you see his chat logs pasted around like bible verses
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Mar 16 17:27:54 <kakobrekla>	you do?
Mar 16 17:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol at "Guest476845654". it looks so inconspicuous
Mar 16 17:28:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.105 = 3.15 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	esp since freenode uses 5 digits
Mar 16 17:29:13 <kakobrekla>	known ip?
Mar 16 17:29:30 <pigeons>	satoshi or guest? satoshi used tor
Mar 16 17:29:41 <kakobrekla>	guest :p
Mar 16 17:29:48 <kakobrekla>	smart satoshi.
Mar 16 17:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	ok, finally getting ready to move the mpex trade engine to its new home.
Mar 16 17:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	trading will be stopped in one hour.
Mar 16 17:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	trading should resume in about 10 minutes.
Mar 16 17:38:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12698 @ 0.00072268 = 9.1766 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00072441 = 9.2724 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:38:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1702 @ 0.00072563 = 1.235 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:40:18 <jurov>	And Satoshi entered the Blockchain and drove out all who sold and bought in the Blockchain, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons.
Mar 16 17:40:55 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Mar 16 17:40:58 <jurov>	lol there ya go pigeons.. even Matthew 21:12 mentions you
Mar 16 17:41:00 <mircea_popescu>	you're talented, can you also draw ?
Mar 16 17:41:16 <jurov>	yea cherry trucks and like
Mar 16 17:42:18 <mircea_popescu>	if you feel like it, make a little bitcoin bible. with miniatures and shit
Mar 16 17:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	that'd kill. perfect way to start a blog
Mar 16 17:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	The Buttcoin Bubble aka Bitcoin Bible
Mar 16 17:43:24 <jurov>	bubbly butt, yum
Mar 16 17:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.0007219 = 2.3101 BTC [-]
Mar 16 17:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00071809 = 5.3857 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 17:47:05 <MJR_>	that would be funny
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Mar 16 17:55:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00071883 = 9.4167 BTC [+]
Mar 16 17:59:08 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 16 17:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005 / 0.00515678 / 0.00588217 (35046 shares, 180.72 BTC), 7D: 0.005 / 0.00552053 / 0.006 (85485 shares, 471.92 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00612233 / 0.0069 (2391935 shares, 14,644.22 BTC)
Mar 16 18:01:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00071883 = 2.7675 BTC [+]
Mar 16 18:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen killerstorm
Mar 16 18:01:50 <gribble>	I have not seen killerstorm.
Mar 16 18:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	meh.
Mar 16 18:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	people gotta learn to irc.
Mar 16 18:03:24 <jurov>	;;seen Ggabridome
Mar 16 18:03:24 <gribble>	I have not seen Ggabridome.
Mar 16 18:03:27 <jurov>	;;seen gabridome
Mar 16 18:03:27 <gribble>	gabridome was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <gabridome> I've updated the shell script with the id of the new key https://github.com/gabridome/mpex-sh/blob/master/mpex.sh
Mar 16 18:03:50 <mircea_popescu>	did you see his twitter pic btw ?
Mar 16 18:03:57 <jurov>	no
Mar 16 18:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7375 @ 0.00071809 = 5.2959 BTC [-]
Mar 16 18:04:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4825 @ 0.0007104 = 3.4277 BTC [-]
Mar 16 18:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/Gabridome
Mar 16 18:06:09 <jurov>	which dude?
Mar 16 18:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	now that i dunno
Mar 16 18:07:13 <jurov>	comparing to the blog photo... seems the left one
Mar 16 18:08:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [-]
Mar 16 18:09:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00071883 = 9.3448 BTC [+]
Mar 16 18:09:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5895 @ 0.00072563 = 4.2776 BTC [+]
Mar 16 18:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00072596 = 3.9565 BTC [+]
Mar 16 18:09:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21355 @ 0.00072609 = 15.5057 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 18:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	mpex trade will be suspended in 10 minutes.
Mar 16 18:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	trade should resume in about 10 minutes after that.
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Mar 16 18:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	trade is back.
Mar 16 18:41:07 <mircea_popescu>	please report any issues you might notice thanks!
Mar 16 18:44:06 <jcpham>	so burned out
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Mar 16 18:51:46 <jurov>	tried simple buy order and works... but seems assbot is out of the loop
Mar 16 18:52:31 <kakobrekla>	shortly
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Mar 16 19:08:50 <mod6>	oops
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Mar 16 19:10:16 <mod6>	it was like: (16:08) <assbot> Processing.
Mar 16 19:10:22 <mod6>	the boom.
Mar 16 19:10:25 <mod6>	*then
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Mar 16 19:12:21 <kakobrekla>	!mp http://dpaste.com/1025145/
Mar 16 19:12:22 <assbot>	Processing.
Mar 16 19:12:23 <assbot>	Response: http://dpaste.com/1025146/plain/
Mar 16 19:12:35 <mod6>	nice
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Mar 16 19:12:57 <mod6>	ok back to winning with assbot
Mar 16 19:14:11 <jurov>	;;bc,diff
Mar 16 19:14:12 <gribble>	4847647.1520656
Mar 16 19:16:22 <jurov>	did some testing txs... no assbot dice
Mar 16 19:16:34 <mod6>	does anyone have the mpex-rss.php feed available via bot request?
Mar 16 19:16:51 <kakobrekla>	jurov we are lookin into it
Mar 16 19:16:53 <mod6>	oh i just did a STAT, jurov
Mar 16 19:17:31 <jurov>	mod6 i don't understand the rss? you want to show rss data here in chan?
Mar 16 19:17:51 <jurov>	and congrats on the STAT.
Mar 16 19:18:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.89 = 5.34 BTC [-]
Mar 16 19:19:17 <mod6>	just was curious if that feed existed anywhere. kinda needed to either update that one script of mine, or deprecate it until some later date.
Mar 16 19:19:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.9 = 1.8 BTC [+]
Mar 16 19:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00072609 BTC [+]
Mar 16 19:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	o hi.
Mar 16 19:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 mpex-rss.php ?
Mar 16 19:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	o you mean via bot. hm
Mar 16 19:20:34 <mod6>	hey!
Mar 16 19:20:36 <mircea_popescu>	it's a lot of lines tho...
Mar 16 19:20:50 <mod6>	na, its not too important, but i had that one script that did it.
Mar 16 19:21:02 <mod6>	maybe instead i'll just kill that old one and get the twitter feed instead
Mar 16 19:21:11 <mod6>	i gotta do that o_auth thing though huh?
Mar 16 19:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	you could get the stream off twitter yeh
Mar 16 19:21:31 <mod6>	dunno..anyway. i'll check into it. thx.
Mar 16 19:21:40 <jurov>	i still don't get it... what's the problem with http://mpex.co/mpex-rss.php ?
Mar 16 19:21:47 <jurov>	seems to work fine
Mar 16 19:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. mpex new monster setup seems 100% operational. webservers moved, trade engine moved.
Mar 16 19:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	i'll be keeping an eye on things still, but generally we seem ok over here.
Mar 16 19:22:04 <mod6>	jurov: it's back up!?
Mar 16 19:22:11 <jurov>	ofc it is
Mar 16 19:22:16 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 when was it down !?
Mar 16 19:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	you mean the ddos stuff ?
Mar 16 19:22:36 <kakobrekla>	mod6 socket connection is up at all times too
Mar 16 19:22:41 <mod6>	oh i guess i was unaware. yeah. ddos.
Mar 16 19:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	haha you got some reading to do.
Mar 16 19:23:09 <mod6>	that socket seems helpful kakobrekla - what's the rate on that?
Mar 16 19:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-ddosed-an-epic/
Mar 16 19:23:18 <kakobrekla>	mod6 1 btc a year atm.
Mar 16 19:23:27 <mod6>	really? that seems cool.
Mar 16 19:23:35 <kakobrekla>	mhm
Mar 16 19:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	these 0.05 loads...
Mar 16 19:24:47 <jurov>	kakobrekla, if i disconnect for some time, does it cache txs?
Mar 16 19:25:02 <jurov>	and send all to me after reconnect?
Mar 16 19:25:06 <mod6>	thx for the link mircea_popescu, i'll check it out when i get back here.
Mar 16 19:25:09 <kakobrekla>	jurov check the protocol
Mar 16 19:25:10 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoin-assets.com/mpex-socket/
Mar 16 19:25:52 <mod6>	ok thanks again guys, bbl.
Mar 16 19:25:55 <jurov>	i don't see anything about caching txs while client is disconnected
Mar 16 19:26:01 <kakobrekla>	Request a login token, post ‘username’, ‘pass’, ‘id’ to https://sauth.bitcoin-assets.com,
Mar 16 19:26:01 <kakobrekla>	where ‘id’ is the last trade id you already recieved (0 to load from begining or -1 to skip all history).
Mar 16 19:26:08 <kakobrekla>	as you connect you request a token
Mar 16 19:26:15 <kakobrekla>	with that you specify where you want to start
Mar 16 19:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	that's a cool way to go about it
Mar 16 19:26:27 <kakobrekla>	from begining, from any point or just listen fro now on
Mar 16 19:26:29 <jurov>	oh derp
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Mar 16 19:36:40 <miscreanity>	mircea_popescu: what's the likelihood of running a cjdns/hyperboria service?
Mar 16 19:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 16 19:37:18 <mircea_popescu>	are you involved with that ?
Mar 16 19:39:31 <mircea_popescu>	miscreanity ^
Mar 16 19:39:36 <miscreanity>	been following it for a while
Mar 16 19:39:59 <miscreanity>	strong conceptual appeal
Mar 16 19:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	here's the rthing : it is interesting, and yes.
Mar 16 19:40:57 <mircea_popescu>	the way i'd go about this is, i'd sponsor a node to run a hyperboria mpex proxy
Mar 16 19:41:01 <mircea_popescu>	as in, pay for the server
Mar 16 19:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	as a way to sponsor the project / encourage research.
Mar 16 19:42:22 <miscreanity>	reasonable
Mar 16 19:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	so if you happen to know anyone that'd do it...
Mar 16 19:43:09 <miscreanity>	possibly
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Mar 16 19:47:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00512 = 0.0102 BTC [-]
Mar 16 19:47:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.005 = 0.1 BTC [-]
Mar 16 19:47:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.0049 = 0.0735 BTC [-]
Mar 16 19:47:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00488 = 0.0732 BTC [-]
Mar 16 19:52:46 <smickles>	$vwap s.dice
Mar 16 19:52:47 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: average: 0.00513634 high: 0.0055 low: 0.005 volume: 33095 btc: 169.9872064 7 day: average: 0.00552045 high: 0.006 low: 0.005 volume: 85535 btc: 472.19157198 30 day: average: 0.00612231 high: 0.0069 low: 0.00300001 volume: 2391985 btc: 14644.484222
Mar 16 19:53:01 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: ^^ to your liking?
Mar 16 19:53:25 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 16 19:53:26 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 42.97673204 high: 57.7102934 low: 37.4449091 volume: 30582 btc: 3176.68341381 30 day: no data
Mar 16 19:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	that works for sure.
Mar 16 19:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	course better ask FabianB
Mar 16 19:53:54 <smickles>	oh? was FabianB using it for the json?
Mar 16 19:54:19 <smickles>	ofc, the full one delivered via pastbin is still the json
Mar 16 19:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	possibly
Mar 16 19:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1af3aq/from_trilema_boys_and_girls_i_got_news_were_being/
Mar 16 19:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	so it turns out bitinstant was just having dns issues, not ddos.
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Mar 16 19:59:18 <jurov>	https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2373 mircea, no 1M blocks for ya before May 15
Mar 16 20:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	A new checkblock rule
Mar 16 20:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	ill bet you the rule will have a bug in it.
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Mar 16 20:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	davout ahaha cyprus specials ?
Mar 16 20:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	lmao.
Mar 16 20:11:37 <davout>	more to come
Mar 16 20:11:56 <davout>	italy, spain, ...
Mar 16 20:12:17 <davout>	i'll whip out my suprise du chef when it'll be france's turn
Mar 16 20:12:40 <mircea_popescu>	hahaah
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Mar 16 20:15:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 26 @ 0.2597 = 6.7522 BTC [-]
Mar 16 20:15:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 54 @ 0.2598 = 14.0292 BTC [+]
Mar 16 20:17:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 20 @ 0.2598 = 5.196 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 20:20:30 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 16 20:20:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 30 @ 0.2598 = 7.794 BTC [+]
Mar 16 20:21:21 <kakobrekla>	i must start a new movement
Mar 16 20:22:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.2598 = 0.7794 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 20:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	which way ?
Mar 16 20:23:46 <kakobrekla>	to teh futureh!
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Mar 16 20:24:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 16 20:38:01 <benkay>	what are you all using for infrastructure management?
Mar 16 20:38:22 <benkay>	chef/puppet/whatever
Mar 16 20:38:25 <benkay>	bash scripts
Mar 16 20:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	i got ppls
Mar 16 20:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	but i think they like puppet mostly
Mar 16 20:40:15 <kakobrekla>	same here
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Mar 16 20:45:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/312/npda-college-debate-championship-2013-mckendree-college/
Mar 16 20:45:36 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Mar 16 20:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't know anyone even cared
Mar 16 20:45:54 <kakobrekla>	internal thingy?
Mar 16 20:47:44 <mircea_popescu>	maybe
Mar 16 20:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	o wait, bfl announced they're not shipping in march ?!
Mar 16 20:48:02 <kakobrekla>	what?
Mar 16 20:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/#c374
Mar 16 20:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno
Mar 16 20:48:55 <kakobrekla>	i think we would hear about it in here by now
Mar 16 20:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	prolly just trash talking
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Mar 16 20:54:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 104 @ 0.105 = 10.92 BTC [+]
Mar 16 20:57:31 <vampireb>	they arent
Mar 16 20:57:33 <vampireb>	fuckers
Mar 16 20:58:21 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 16 20:58:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005 / 0.00513634 / 0.0055 (33095 shares, 169.99 BTC), 7D: 0.005 / 0.00552044 / 0.006 (85535 shares, 472.19 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00612471 / 0.0069 (2345295 shares, 14,364.26 BTC)
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Mar 16 21:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.999 = 19.99 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 21:27:59 <benkay>	can I ask assbot for the last trade? if so how?
Mar 16 21:28:07 <benkay>	;;last
Mar 16 21:28:07 <gribble>	[18:27:59] <benkay> can I ask assbot for the last trade? if so how?
Mar 16 21:28:11 <kakobrekla>	:DDDD
Mar 16 21:28:19 <benkay>	hrm.
Mar 16 21:28:22 <kakobrekla>	02:20.01 ( @assbot ) [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.999 = 19.99 BTC [+]
Mar 16 21:28:27 <kakobrekla>	heres your last trade
Mar 16 21:28:28 <benkay>	nono
Mar 16 21:28:41 <benkay>	blacktape2 is listening just to assbot
Mar 16 21:29:02 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 16 21:29:15 <benkay>	also i just realized that if assbot will show last trade i have some work to do
Mar 16 21:29:31 <benkay>	currently assuming that all trades out of assbot are unique
Mar 16 21:29:34 <kakobrekla>	well iirc i hold the last trade data cause i need it for the + or -
Mar 16 21:29:58 <kakobrekla>	so in theory it could be asked for
Mar 16 21:30:27 <kakobrekla>	but we can just make the syntax so your bot doesnt get confused
Mar 16 21:31:03 <smickles>	i would love to be able to query assbot for the last trade of assets
Mar 16 21:31:13 <kakobrekla>	ok
Mar 16 21:31:16 <kakobrekla>	ill add it
Mar 16 21:31:35 <Namworld>	;;last assbot
Mar 16 21:31:35 <gribble>	(last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must (1 more message)
Mar 16 21:31:51 <Namworld>	;;last --from assbot
Mar 16 21:31:51 <gribble>	[18:20:02] <assbot> [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.999 = 19.99 BTC [+]
Mar 16 21:31:58 <smickles>	;;last --in assbot
Mar 16 21:31:58 <gribble>	Error: 'assbot' is not a valid channel.
Mar 16 21:32:29 <smickles>	damn, assbot never talks about previous partners, seems gribble won't help us find out
Mar 16 21:32:32 <Namworld>	Unfortunatly, no one else thought of that yet, smickles. Congratulations.
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Mar 16 21:34:37 <Chaang-Noi>	any truth or link to bfl delay?
Mar 16 21:34:50 <Namworld>	idk of one. I'd like to know
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Mar 16 21:35:25 <Namworld>	Looks like BFL is in the forever "almost" zone.
Mar 16 21:35:57 <Chaang-Noi>	4 to 6 weeks forever is what i say
Mar 16 21:36:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda thought they would ship in march, but i might losethat bety
Mar 16 21:36:30 <kakobrekla>	have faith in not having faith in bfl
Mar 16 21:36:47 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone happen to know total hash of batch 1 for avalon, and then batch 2?
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Mar 16 21:39:01 <Chaang-Noi>	iv made so much money off of bfl fail it wont matter if i lose one bet :)
Mar 16 21:39:04 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl lol
Mar 16 21:40:47 <kakobrekla>	yeah they have a statue now http://josh-zerlan.com/
Mar 16 21:41:20 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Mar 16 21:41:32 <Chaang-Noi>	makes me want to register my name
Mar 16 21:41:40 <kakobrekla>	you gonna fail too?
Mar 16 21:41:43 <kakobrekla>	oh wait.
Mar 16 21:42:44 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, i never failed, but i keep trusting scammers, lol
Mar 16 21:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2229 @ 0.00530736 = 11.8301 BTC [-]
Mar 16 21:43:01 <kakobrekla>	failed at trusting then
Mar 16 21:43:13 <kakobrekla>	dont worry it happens a lot
Mar 16 21:43:27 <Chaang-Noi>	still, even though i lost monhey in things like glbse and bitcoinica im still okay, never riskmore than you can lose...
Mar 16 21:43:46 <kakobrekla>	indeed
Mar 16 21:44:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder if that bitcoinica thing will ever work out
Mar 16 21:44:14 <Chaang-Noi>	i have 700 btc id like to see atleast 50% of...
Mar 16 21:44:31 <kakobrekla>	converted back to current rate
Mar 16 21:44:32 <kakobrekla>	2 btc.
Mar 16 21:44:38 <kakobrekla>	muahaha.
Mar 16 21:44:44 <Chaang-Noi>	not sure if it was converted
Mar 16 21:44:53 <kakobrekla>	doesnt matter shit
Mar 16 21:45:02 <kakobrekla>	way easier to pay
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Mar 16 21:45:39 <Chaang-Noi>	mt gox should not have messed with it
Mar 16 21:45:52 <Chaang-Noi>	it is in a mt gox account, they just wont give it away
Mar 16 21:46:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i admit i might not get more than 2 btc but i hope i atleast get 1/2
Mar 16 21:46:31 <Chaang-Noi>	most people got 50% already
Mar 16 21:46:45 <kakobrekla>	next short opportunity of cheap coins, mtgox gets closed
Mar 16 21:47:06 <Chaang-Noi>	lol if mt gox fails before i get my coins back...
Mar 16 21:50:53 <Chaang-Noi>	tried to sign up for bitfunder, after i did all the hoops i was rejected cuz no weexchange account... facepalm
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Mar 16 21:52:27 <dub>	as a user or to issue an asset?
Mar 16 21:53:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00498 = 0.0498 BTC [-]
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Mar 16 21:54:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 62 @ 0.00488 = 0.3026 BTC [-]
Mar 16 21:54:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00487 = 0.487 BTC [-]
Mar 16 21:54:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00482 = 0.0964 BTC [-]
Mar 16 21:55:15 <Chaang-Noi>	dub i was trying to send in btc to but asicminer
Mar 16 21:55:23 <Chaang-Noi>	buy*
Mar 16 21:55:53 <Chaang-Noi>	i was thinking about sending in assets too, but they were like you MUST have a weexchange account, here is your code... that pissed me off...
Mar 16 21:57:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0046 BTC [-]
Mar 16 21:57:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00452 = 0.0452 BTC [-]
Mar 16 21:57:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 354 @ 0.00451 = 1.5965 BTC [-]
Mar 16 21:57:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.004501 = 2.2505 BTC [-]
Mar 16 21:57:18 <Chaang-Noi>	needless to say they lost a potential customer
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Mar 16 21:59:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1000 @ 0.0046 = 4.6 BTC [-]
Mar 16 22:00:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.009989 = 0.0699 BTC [+]
Mar 16 22:01:30 <Namworld>	whut?
Mar 16 22:02:11 <smickles>	$dept s.dice
Mar 16 22:02:18 <smickles>	$depth s.dice
Mar 16 22:02:20 <mpexbot>	smickles: Bids: ['71 @ 530736', '1250 @ 519980', '20000 @ 500000', '2361 @ 500000', '22222 @ 444440']
Mar 16 22:02:21 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['1080 @ 537099', '1950 @ 544503', '500 @ 577800', '700 @ 577905', '2000 @ 584999']
Mar 16 22:02:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 103 @ 0.00999 = 1.029 BTC [+]
Mar 16 22:02:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 48 @ 0.00999 = 0.4795 BTC [+]
Mar 16 22:02:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.00999 = 0.1998 BTC [+]
Mar 16 22:02:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 467 @ 0.004551 = 2.1253 BTC [-]
Mar 16 22:03:18 <dub>	i was gonna signup too, thats a bit watly
Mar 16 22:03:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 104 @ 0.01 = 1.04 BTC [+]
Mar 16 22:04:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Mar 16 22:04:12 <Namworld>	Ah... S.DICE-PT is going down but BTC-BOND goes up?
Mar 16 22:04:29 <Namworld>	Odd.
Mar 16 22:06:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00072609 = 8.1322 BTC [+]
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Mar 16 22:14:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.004552 = 1.3656 BTC [+]
Mar 16 22:14:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 54 @ 0.004551 = 0.2458 BTC [-]
Mar 16 22:15:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00072609 = 6.8616 BTC [+]
Mar 16 22:21:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]
Mar 16 22:24:29 <Chaang-Noi>	65 less than 32000 losses in a row... s dice broken?
Mar 16 22:25:26 <Chaang-Noi>	and i thought my less than 16000 23 losses in a row where bad
Mar 16 22:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	apparently s.dice removed withdrawals too.
Mar 16 22:33:18 <smickles>	withdrawals? what do you mean
Mar 16 22:33:40 <smickles>	i thought it was a bet, return winnings/loss-indicator
Mar 16 22:33:48 <smickles>	how would there be withdrawals?
Mar 16 22:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	fine. payouts
Mar 16 22:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	mpex went deposits only, then s.dice, it's a disease
Mar 16 22:41:11 <Chaang-Noi>	s dice no longer pays? lol
Mar 16 22:41:22 <Chaang-Noi>	100% profit http://i.imgur.com/GhH7b2H.png
Mar 16 22:41:46 <kakobrekla>	payouts have been deprecated
Mar 16 22:42:16 <kakobrekla>	i mean winning.
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Mar 16 22:43:14 <mircea_popescu>	deflationary ftw
Mar 16 22:43:31 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: eh? the first line on that is a win.
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Mar 16 22:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	smickles we're kidding man
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Mar 16 22:43:47 <smickles>	oh
Mar 16 22:43:49 <smickles>	-_-
Mar 16 22:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol poor smickles
Mar 16 22:44:31 <Chaang-Noi>	smickles but howe many in a row are not? :)
Mar 16 22:44:55 <smickles>	that is a lot
Mar 16 22:45:06 <Chaang-Noi>	65 of under 32000
Mar 16 22:45:20 <Chaang-Noi>	odds are better to win 3 less than 1 in a row
Mar 16 22:46:15 <Chaang-Noi>	im bored... i need to get a hobby, sad cuz bitcoin was my hobby, then it came my life...
Mar 16 22:46:42 <Bowjob>	chang we can play tf2 if you have a decent pc
Mar 16 22:47:18 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah quad 7970s
Mar 16 22:47:23 <Bowjob>	that shit was my drug before bitcoins
Mar 16 22:47:29 <Chaang-Noi>	but linux....
Mar 16 22:47:31 <Bowjob>	i had 1800 hours logged in
Mar 16 22:47:44 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: native tf2 on linux now
Mar 16 22:47:45 <Chaang-Noi>	i did buy like 20 steam games from that steam btc guy
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Mar 16 22:47:58 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, cool
Mar 16 22:48:13 <smickles>	runs faster than on win, usually
Mar 16 22:48:18 <Bowjob>	i used to sell hats for paypal back in the day
Mar 16 22:48:19 <Chaang-Noi>	nice
Mar 16 22:48:23 <smickles>	*usually as in for most people
Mar 16 22:48:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i have a windows box set up just for gaming but i dont use it
Mar 16 22:49:05 <Bowjob>	the most expensive hat in tf2 goes for around 3k USD
Mar 16 22:49:26 <Chaang-Noi>	from what i understand you have to buy something to get the good stuff
Mar 16 22:49:40 <Bowjob>	no
Mar 16 22:49:41 <Chaang-Noi>	i tried the free game for a while, but never got anything good
Mar 16 22:49:48 <Bowjob>	well
Mar 16 22:49:50 <Chaang-Noi>	not true?
Mar 16 22:49:50 <Bowjob>	its just hats
Mar 16 22:49:53 <Bowjob>	cosmetic thing
Mar 16 22:50:00 <Bowjob>	gameplay wise, you dont need them really
Mar 16 22:50:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i see
Mar 16 22:50:14 <Bowjob>	but people tend to go crazy over them
Mar 16 22:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	hmm, is anyone doing gift certs anymore ?
Mar 16 22:50:20 <Chaang-Noi>	well... i kinda doubt it is something i could make money at
Mar 16 22:50:32 <Bowjob>	i sold my backpack for $350 for playing a game
Mar 16 22:50:34 <Chaang-Noi>	mp want out of btc into fiat?
Mar 16 22:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	nah just want to send a gift
Mar 16 22:50:45 <Bowjob>	u can make money off of it, but its not enough
Mar 16 22:50:52 <BitHub>	this website closed down its "selling" side of its services citing, there wasn't enough demand for this
Mar 16 22:50:55 <BitHub>	heh
Mar 16 22:51:10 <BitHub>	https://www.spendbitcoins.com/convert/
Mar 16 22:51:11 <Chaang-Noi>	i found a site last night that would let you order anything online using btc
Mar 16 22:51:22 <BitHub>	their reason is hilarious, pretty sure i know why
Mar 16 22:51:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i forgot the name :/
Mar 16 22:52:01 <Chaang-Noi>	the site charged like a 3 or 5$ fee for an order, it was pretty decent price
Mar 16 22:52:08 <Chaang-Noi>	wish i saved that link...
Mar 16 22:52:15 <BitHub>	chaang any ssd?
Mar 16 22:53:34 <Chaang-Noi>	mp here you go  https://bitspend.net/
Mar 16 22:53:49 <Chaang-Noi>	just have them mail a gift to whomevar
Mar 16 22:54:12 <BitHub>	i think their anon and privacy stuff
Mar 16 22:54:13 <Chaang-Noi>	no ssd, this was old mining rigs... i would not have 6990s and 7970s cuz anything else
Mar 16 22:54:23 <BitHub>	like*
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Mar 16 22:54:58 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone ever uses this site? https://bitspend.net/ ?
Mar 16 22:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi do you know who runs it ?
Mar 16 22:55:27 <BitHub>	yeah, kind of
Mar 16 22:55:31 <Chaang-Noi>	mp no i do not
Mar 16 22:55:37 <Chaang-Noi>	their names are listed on the main page
Mar 16 22:55:39 <Chaang-Noi>	but i dont know them
Mar 16 22:55:50 <mircea_popescu>	yeah was looking for more like, a wot person
Mar 16 22:56:08 <BitHub>	i know someone on here ballz deep involved
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Mar 16 22:56:11 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont use wot, sorry
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Mar 16 22:57:00 <BitHub>	i think the guy has done other bitcoin stuff before
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Mar 16 22:57:22 <Chaang-Noi>	if i needed anything i would test it out
Mar 16 22:57:35 <Bowjob>	bank holiday in cyprus
Mar 16 22:57:36 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 16 22:57:40 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 16 22:57:44 <Chaang-Noi>	runz im sure
Mar 16 22:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob ya after they got charged like 105
Mar 16 22:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	cyprus is pretty much dead.
Mar 16 22:57:52 <Chaang-Noi>	%
Mar 16 22:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	it will be like haiti
Mar 16 22:58:00 <Bowjob>	try that in bitcoin
Mar 16 22:58:01 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 16 22:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	im sure Luke-Jr will come up with some system.
Mar 16 22:58:25 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 16 22:58:47 <BitHub>	its safe to use
Mar 16 22:59:00 <BitHub>	legit company
Mar 16 22:59:07 <Chaang-Noi>	how long before europe rips apart...? this year?
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Mar 16 22:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	depends how germany does in elections
Mar 16 22:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	if the merkel dissidents get seats...
Mar 16 23:00:11 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 16 23:00:16 <Chaang-Noi>	when arethe elections?
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Mar 16 23:01:14 <Chaang-Noi>	not sure how they thought taking money from people who keep money is banks was a good diea, people everywhere will just pull out cash, making it crash faster...
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Mar 16 23:01:54 <Bowjob>	they could impose a withrawal limit after the holiday
Mar 16 23:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob they prolly will.
Mar 16 23:02:09 <Chaang-Noi>	"According to Reuters news agency, almost half of the depositors in Cyprus are believed to be non-resident Russians. "
Mar 16 23:02:20 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 16 23:02:36 <Bowjob>	im sure cyprus would happily take deposits though
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Mar 16 23:03:23 <Chaang-Noi>	"The point of the levy is to warn lenders to banks that they should take care where they place their funds"   so the point is, do not lend money to banks???? wtf
Mar 16 23:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Mar 16 23:03:48 <Chaang-Noi>	this is going to fix what?
Mar 16 23:04:55 <Chaang-Noi>	gold and btc... fuck banks and governments
Mar 16 23:05:38 <Bowjob>	and.... btc-e is down
Mar 16 23:05:44 <BitHub>	i wouldn't bother with gold unless you can get it for 30% below market price
Mar 16 23:06:45 <Bowjob>	theres this dude who tried to sell 1 oz of gold coin for $25
Mar 16 23:06:53 <Bowjob>	he failed..
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Mar 16 23:07:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i bought my gold at $300 to $400 an oz
Mar 16 23:07:30 <Chaang-Noi>	silver average around 47.5
Mar 16 23:07:33 <BitHub>	nice
Mar 16 23:07:42 <BitHub>	i was too young to appreciate it back then
Mar 16 23:07:52 <BitHub>	around 2001 right?
Mar 16 23:07:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i was not... i was 20ish
Mar 16 23:07:58 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 16 23:08:12 <Chaang-Noi>	everyone should ahve 10% atleast of their wealth in gold/silver
Mar 16 23:08:26 <BitHub>	yep back to asia for that
Mar 16 23:08:33 <BitHub>	not paying western market prices
Mar 16 23:08:52 <Chaang-Noi>	gold here in asia is the same price as in the west...
Mar 16 23:09:10 <BitHub>	not at illegal gold mines
Mar 16 23:09:25 <Chaang-Noi>	in asia?
Mar 16 23:09:56 <BitHub>	well any africa, etc but for me, asia
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Mar 16 23:09:56 <Chaang-Noi>	well im sure you can get a discount but i highly doubt it is worth the travel/risks
Mar 16 23:10:24 <BitHub>	best to not say anymore but its all sweet
Mar 16 23:10:47 <BitHub>	you just need the connect
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Mar 16 23:11:58 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 16 23:12:03 <BitHub>	been advised to fly to HK airport
Mar 16 23:12:10 <BitHub>	heard they don't give a F#$@$ there
Mar 16 23:12:28 <Chaang-Noi>	have you been to hk before?
Mar 16 23:12:41 <smickles>	a
Mar 16 23:12:52 <Chaang-Noi>	you know HK is in china right?
Mar 16 23:12:52 <BitHub>	nope
Mar 16 23:12:57 <BitHub>	yep
Mar 16 23:13:04 <BitHub>	before 97 it was under brittish
Mar 16 23:13:07 <BitHub>	and they handed it back
Mar 16 23:13:08 <BitHub>	etc
Mar 16 23:13:09 <Chaang-Noi>	do you think china is the kinda place that just does not give a fuck?
Mar 16 23:13:31 <BitHub>	i dont know but there's people doing it now
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Mar 16 23:13:58 <BitHub>	and its been advised, from lawyers, hk airport is the best, they don't care about gold
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Mar 16 23:14:03 <BitHub>	only guns and drugs
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Mar 16 23:14:14 <BitHub>	you can walk in with 1kg in your pocket
Mar 16 23:14:14 <Chaang-Noi>	flying into hk is about as bad as flying into the usa...
Mar 16 23:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://business.financialpost.com/2013/03/14/only-jesus-can-save-the-eurozone-deutsche-bank/
Mar 16 23:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	heh
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Mar 16 23:14:51 <Chaang-Noi>	most places will let you bring in gold and or silver in asia...
Mar 16 23:14:52 <BitHub>	all i know is all the people that smuggling gold out of other countries take it to hk
Mar 16 23:15:19 <Chaang-Noi>	you might be thinking about vietnam, it is aabout the only place that really limits the trade here
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Mar 16 23:15:43 <Chaang-Noi>	mp, im shocked that guy thinks even jesus can save it...
Mar 16 23:16:01 <BitHub>	btw hk would have been amazing before 97 me thinks
Mar 16 23:16:13 <BitHub>	did you get to check it out?
Mar 16 23:16:14 <kakobrekla>	ok guies
Mar 16 23:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	well jesus can turn fish into wine and whine into labour so
Mar 16 23:16:35 <kakobrekla>	ready for some nostalgia?
Mar 16 23:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	he could supposedly turn 50mn arrogant yet clueless youths into some sort of useful resource.
Mar 16 23:16:38 <kakobrekla>	!last glbse ppt.e
Mar 16 23:16:43 <kakobrekla>	o wait fuck
Mar 16 23:17:13 <Chaang-Noi>	lulz
Mar 16 23:17:26 <Chaang-Noi>	glbse + pirate :)
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Mar 16 23:17:50 <kakobrekla>	!last glbse ppt.e
Mar 16 23:17:51 <assbot>	Last trade for PPT.E on GLBSE: 0.32 [-]
Mar 16 23:17:54 <kakobrekla>	ta-daaa
Mar 16 23:18:15 <Chaang-Noi>	!last glbse tygrr-a
Mar 16 23:18:15 <assbot>	Last trade for TYGRR-A on GLBSE:
Mar 16 23:18:42 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 16 23:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	Christos Stylianides, a government spokesman, tried to calm public anger, saying: "The situation is serious but not tragic, there is no reason to panic."
Mar 16 23:18:48 <kakobrekla>	you got the ticker wrong
Mar 16 23:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	right-o. you just lost your money, big deal.
Mar 16 23:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	!last m f.giga.etf
Mar 16 23:19:12 <assbot>	Last trade for F.GIGA.ETF on MPEX: 0.00000001 [-]
Mar 16 23:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	cook.
Mar 16 23:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Mar 16 23:19:19 <Chaang-Noi>	!last trade TYGRR-P
Mar 16 23:19:20 <assbot>	Last trade for TYGRR-P on TRADE:
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Mar 16 23:19:29 <mircea_popescu>	!last glbse tygrr-p
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Mar 16 23:19:34 <mircea_popescu>	!last glbse tygrr-p
Mar 16 23:19:35 <assbot>	Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
Mar 16 23:19:40 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 16 23:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	i give
Mar 16 23:19:54 <kakobrekla>	did you have a dot?
Mar 16 23:19:59 <kakobrekla>	!last glbse tygrr.p
Mar 16 23:20:00 <assbot>	It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money.
Mar 16 23:20:09 <kakobrekla>	it was smth else
Mar 16 23:20:10 <Chaang-Noi>	no it was tygrr-p or a or b...
Mar 16 23:20:15 <Chaang-Noi>	but its not a big dead
Mar 16 23:20:20 <kakobrekla>	its there
Mar 16 23:20:21 <Chaang-Noi>	!last glbse gigiminer
Mar 16 23:20:22 <assbot>	It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
Mar 16 23:20:25 <kakobrekla>	just gotta get the name right
Mar 16 23:20:31 <kakobrekla>	!last glbse gigamining
Mar 16 23:20:32 <assbot>	Last trade for GIGAMINING on GLBSE: 0.56515 [+]
Mar 16 23:20:37 <kakobrekla>	!last glbse yabmc
Mar 16 23:20:37 <assbot>	Last trade for YABMC on GLBSE: 0.0769 [+]
Mar 16 23:20:42 <Chaang-Noi>	is this cuz he delisted my stuff before glbse closed?
Mar 16 23:20:44 <kakobrekla>	!last m s.bbet
Mar 16 23:20:44 <assbot>	Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX: 0.002014 [+]
Mar 16 23:21:07 <kakobrekla>	assbot echoed tygrr afaik
Mar 16 23:21:09 <kakobrekla>	so its there
Mar 16 23:21:16 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 16 23:21:17 <kakobrekla>	i can search by it
Mar 16 23:21:19 <Chaang-Noi>	!last tygrr
Mar 16 23:21:19 <assbot>	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
Mar 16 23:21:19 <kakobrekla>	cant
Mar 16 23:21:25 <Chaang-Noi>	!last glbse
Mar 16 23:21:25 <assbot>	Stupid fucking white man.
Mar 16 23:21:30 <kakobrekla>	its unserachable.
Mar 16 23:21:31 <Chaang-Noi>	!last glbse tygrr
Mar 16 23:21:31 <assbot>	Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
Mar 16 23:21:54 <Chaang-Noi>	assbot called me stupid when i was being stupid.. :)
Mar 16 23:22:02 <kakobrekla>	its smart like dat.
Mar 16 23:22:24 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc, why are you not over $1` yet.. and BTC why not over $50 yet....
Mar 16 23:22:35 <kakobrekla>	!ticker glbse TYGRR.BOND-B
Mar 16 23:22:35 <assbot>	Are you sure you have no tobacco?
Mar 16 23:22:39 <kakobrekla>	eh
Mar 16 23:22:43 <kakobrekla>	!l glbse TYGRR.BOND-B
Mar 16 23:22:44 <assbot>	Last trade for TYGRR.BOND-B on GLBSE: 0.1 [-]
Mar 16 23:22:47 <kakobrekla>	there
Mar 16 23:22:50 <kakobrekla>	...
Mar 16 23:22:50 <Bowjob>	btc-e is down
Mar 16 23:22:51 <Bowjob>	fail
Mar 16 23:22:57 <Chaang-Noi>	cool :)
Mar 16 23:22:59 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi doesnt even know its own ticker :p
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Mar 16 23:23:13 <Bowjob>	chang u have 200k LTC?
Mar 16 23:23:13 <kakobrekla>	also ticker now has a short hand
Mar 16 23:23:21 <kakobrekla>	!t h sdice
Mar 16 23:23:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.51000000 / 0.5145676 / 0.54000000 (177 shares, 91.07846527 BTC), 7D: 0.50030000 / 0.54542883 / 0.61999910 (1272 shares, 693.78546779 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.6066357 / 0.75900000 (5798 shares, 3517.27376851 BTC)
Mar 16 23:23:27 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob btc-e is fine, go tell them to whitelist your ip
Mar 16 23:23:32 <kakobrekla>	enjoy
Mar 16 23:23:45 <Chaang-Noi>	iv not used my tickers in a long time :/
Mar 16 23:23:46 <Bowjob>	so you can log in?]
Mar 16 23:23:49 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 16 23:24:00 <Chaang-Noi>	#litecoin-markets   and yes i can log in
Mar 16 23:24:06 <Chaang-Noi>	you need ot get your ass whitelisted
Mar 16 23:24:12 <mircea_popescu>	!t h dice
Mar 16 23:24:13 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Mar 16 23:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	!t h sd
Mar 16 23:24:18 <assbot>	These beans is shit.
Mar 16 23:24:31 <kakobrekla>	sdice pls
Mar 16 23:24:34 <Chaang-Noi>	!; btct asicminer
Mar 16 23:24:51 <Chaang-Noi>	!l btct asic
Mar 16 23:24:51 <assbot>	Your actions are useless.
Mar 16 23:24:56 <Chaang-Noi>	yes they are
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Mar 16 23:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	!echo goatsex
Mar 16 23:25:35 <assbot>	 no, im a donky fucker.
Mar 16 23:25:58 <Namworld>	assbot has too many jokes built inside
Mar 16 23:26:32 <assbot>	 its not too many if it fits in.
Mar 16 23:27:02 <Namworld>	I guess I'm not around when MPEx is getting volume. I see good daily volume but I hardly notice as many trades as before.
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Mar 16 23:27:43 <Chaang-Noi>	nome one is adjusting the states :)
Mar 16 23:27:49 <Chaang-Noi>	sats
Mar 16 23:27:59 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck, im not even going to try and type anymore...
Mar 16 23:28:22 <Namworld>	When you can't succeed... quit
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Mar 16 23:30:28 <Chaang-Noi>	;D
Mar 16 23:30:42 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld are you looking at daily average volume ?
Mar 16 23:31:20 <Namworld>	aye?
Mar 16 23:31:38 <Namworld>	that and daily volume on specifics
Mar 16 23:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	but... daily average volume is the daily average volume, not the day's volume.
Mar 16 23:32:08 <mircea_popescu>	like 50k worth of trade happened in one day back in feb iirc
Mar 16 23:32:17 <Namworld>	I'm looking at both
Mar 16 23:32:34 <Namworld>	Trades today and daily average. Seems the month is going well.
Mar 16 23:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	sorta so-so
Mar 16 23:33:48 <Namworld>	Considering there was a DDoS preventing most of trades for a time, I'd say it's going well.
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Mar 16 23:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	didn;'t really prevent much if you recall.
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Mar 16 23:35:41 <Namworld>	It seemed like there was less trading than usual. Took some time for people to find and start using alternatives.
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Mar 16 23:36:37 <kakobrekla>	!h
Mar 16 23:36:38 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 16 23:36:39 <assbot>	!t / !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 16 23:36:40 <assbot>	!l / !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last trade values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Mar 16 23:36:41 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 16 23:36:54 <kakobrekla>	k
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Mar 16 23:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	!k
Mar 16 23:37:29 <assbot>	 !gtfo
Mar 16 23:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	  !urmom
Mar 16 23:38:19 <assbot>	 404 not found
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Mar 16 23:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	Alan, a British expatriate saver in Cyprus, told BBC News: "This is robbery and we must get the EU to stop this.
Mar 16 23:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	lulzy
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Mar 16 23:49:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16799 BTC [-]
Mar 16 23:50:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.425 BTC [+]
Mar 16 23:51:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00511 BTC [+]
Mar 16 23:51:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 99 @ 0.00511 = 0.5059 BTC [+]
Mar 16 23:52:16 <Chaang-Noi>	im shocked people ever trusted banks... its their own damn falt
Mar 16 23:52:20 <Chaang-Noi>	fault
Mar 16 23:52:34 <Chaang-Noi>	give someone all your money... not get 1005 back... lol
Mar 16 23:53:00 <Chaang-Noi>	100%
Mar 16 23:54:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2378 @ 0.00072609 = 1.7266 BTC [+]
Mar 16 23:54:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Mar 16 23:55:22 <Namworld>	Who has BASIC-MINING shares?
Mar 16 23:55:28 <Chaang-Noi>	not i
Mar 16 23:55:36 <Namworld>	I want to short those.
Mar 16 23:55:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i want to short everything but asicminer
Mar 16 23:55:57 <Namworld>	eh
Mar 16 23:56:05 <Chaang-Noi>	and sooner or later, maybe asicminer too :)
Mar 16 23:56:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.168 BTC [+]
Mar 16 23:56:39 <Namworld>	If they keep rolling out better ASICs chips regularly, might not be ever needed.
Mar 16 23:57:03 <Chaang-Noi>	that is the plan
Mar 16 23:57:25 <mircea_popescu>	im still waiting for inau's asicminer loan
Mar 16 23:57:26 <Chaang-Noi>	iv quit selling, im going to wait until it gets 1.5 btc to sell more
Mar 16 23:57:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold ltc, that should give me enough beer money for a while
Mar 16 23:59:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.425 BTC [+]
Mar 17 00:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	bitbet faq update : http://bitbet.us/faq/
Mar 17 00:06:54 <pigeons>	does bitbet have any awards we can trust from fully articlated lorries carrying fleshy sweet stone fruits?
Mar 17 00:07:11 <kakobrekla>	we have the milkmans award
Mar 17 00:07:15 <pigeons>	ah good
Mar 17 00:07:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 12 @ 0.01 = 0.12 BTC [+]
Mar 17 00:07:50 <pigeons>	i just might join the fan club
Mar 17 00:08:50 <mircea_popescu>	the flesy sweet stone fruit
Mar 17 00:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	could be a pretty decent name for a titty bar
Mar 17 00:09:55 <kakobrekla>	i remember an old game we played on 486 i think ... somethink like 'milkman'
Mar 17 00:09:59 <kakobrekla>	was a porn thing
Mar 17 00:10:09 <kakobrekla>	cant find it on google though
Mar 17 00:10:21 <pigeons>	maybe it needed the turbo button pressed
Mar 17 00:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.milkmanbook.com/
Mar 17 00:10:29 <kakobrekla>	mebbe
Mar 17 00:13:03 <kakobrekla>	meh
Mar 17 00:13:13 <kakobrekla>	cant find it
Mar 17 00:13:25 <kakobrekla>	even with turbo
Mar 17 00:16:35 <pigeons>	leisure suit paperboy?
Mar 17 00:18:48 <pigeons>	;;google reid fleming world toughest milkman
Mar 17 00:18:48 <gribble>	Official Reid Fleming, World's Toughest Milkman Web Site—Comics ...: <http://www.reidfleming.com/>; Reid Fleming, World's Toughest Milkman #1 by David Boswell: <http://reidfleming.com/rf01.html>; Reid Fleming, World's Toughest Milkman—Movie 01 - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poUN_8u3hSo>
Mar 17 00:19:29 <Chaang-Noi>	Is milk a scammer?
Mar 17 00:19:30 <Chaang-Noi>	No! While some have claimed that, milk was always honest.
Mar 17 00:20:26 <kakobrekla>	naw pigeons
Mar 17 00:20:33 <kakobrekla>	wasnt even 3d iirc
Mar 17 00:21:22 <pigeons>	neither was reid back in the day
Mar 17 00:22:49 <mircea_popescu>	leisure suit paperboy lmao
Mar 17 00:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	did anyone even finish larry ?
Mar 17 00:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	stupid "prophylactics" shit
Mar 17 00:29:25 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154050.0
Mar 17 00:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 2 = 14 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 00:41:08 <kakobrekla>	!l h him
Mar 17 00:41:09 <assbot>	Last trade for HIM on HAVELOCK: 2 [+]
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Mar 17 00:45:47 <nanotube>	kakobrekla: hey, might i ask that you add either to topic or to the website something to the effect of "anything you say may be publicly logged."
Mar 17 00:46:05 <kakobrekla>	it is??
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Mar 17 00:46:42 <nanotube>	yes, mircea_popescu makes it a regular habit to quote irc conversations. :)
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Mar 17 00:46:49 <kakobrekla>	!last btctc btc-bond
Mar 17 00:46:49 <assbot>	Last trade for BTC-BOND on BTCTC at 0.01 BTC [+]
Mar 17 00:47:04 <kakobrekla>	oh dat.
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Mar 17 00:47:40 <kakobrekla>	hm i thought this was a public place and such things are expected
Mar 17 00:47:51 <dub>	afaik its actually against freenode tos
Mar 17 00:47:54 <nanotube>	nothing wrong with that, it is a public channel, but freenode guidelines suggest to put it in topic.
Mar 17 00:47:57 <dub>	unless explicitly stated
Mar 17 00:48:02 <nanotube>	dub: right
Mar 17 00:48:06 <pigeons>	well on freenode its expected it will be noted in the topic
Mar 17 00:48:36 <kakobrekla>	ill put it on site
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Mar 17 00:51:22 <kakobrekla>	>- anything you say is public and can be used by anyone
Mar 17 00:51:25 <kakobrekla>	is this pleasing?
Mar 17 00:52:48 <nanotube>	sounds reasonable
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Mar 17 01:01:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.004551 = 0.0228 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 01:03:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00441 = 0.0132 BTC [-]
Mar 17 01:03:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 800 @ 0.004301 = 3.4408 BTC [-]
Mar 17 01:04:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0042 = 0.042 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 01:04:39 <kakobrekla>	!l bt gsdpt
Mar 17 01:04:40 <assbot>	Last price for GSDPT on BTCTC was 0.0042 BTC [-]
Mar 17 01:04:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00409 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 01:05:37 <kakobrekla>	!l bt gsdpt
Mar 17 01:05:37 <assbot>	Last trade for GSDPT on BTCTC was at 0.00409 BTC [-]
Mar 17 01:05:48 <kakobrekla>	good enough.
Mar 17 01:05:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.004001 = 1.2003 BTC [-]
Mar 17 01:06:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 29 @ 0.003501 = 0.1015 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 01:10:07 <Chaang-Noi>	i got bored,"crashed" ktc market, meh
Mar 17 01:10:25 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=today&resolution=hour&pair=ltc-usd&market=btc-e
Mar 17 01:16:41 <Chaang-Noi>	i now have $12,000 usd fiat... what to buy? hmmmm more ltc?
Mar 17 01:16:47 <Chaang-Noi>	wrong box
Mar 17 01:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14858 @ 0.00071579 = 10.6352 BTC [-]
Mar 17 01:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/17/the-clock-is-ticking-on-bitcoin/
Mar 17 01:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3861 @ 0.00071579 = 2.7637 BTC [-]
Mar 17 01:28:58 <midnightmagic>	s/news/olds/
Mar 17 01:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	old news is my favourite kind.
Mar 17 01:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	i only read newspaprs after keeping them around for 6-18 months
Mar 17 01:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	"The people who have made the most are the early adopters who got in at the beginning and stayed with it," says Bruce Wagner, an IT expert who spotted Bitcoin in 2010
Mar 17 01:30:05 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 17 01:30:15 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: The people who made the most are people who run option emporiums...I wonder who that could be :P
Mar 17 01:30:21 <Chaang-Noi>	he reminds me of matthew w so much
Mar 17 01:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i didn't make the most, i just lost the least.
Mar 17 01:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://nerdr.com/bitcoin-exchange-scam-bitcoins-are-worthless/ also pretty funnay.
Mar 17 01:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	"Sometimes I let the files do this"
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Mar 17 01:35:24 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Mar 17 01:35:29 <Diablo-D3>	I just had an idea
Mar 17 01:35:37 <Diablo-D3>	wouldn't bitcoins be worth infinite money if
Mar 17 01:35:47 <Diablo-D3>	it was the first currency that made it to mars?
Mar 17 01:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	...we plugged one bitcoin into itself ?
Mar 17 01:37:50 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no, that just causes a ground fault and blows the caps
Mar 17 01:39:42 <Chaang-Noi>	infinite money, if it went to a palce where their is no need for money??
Mar 17 01:39:44 <Chaang-Noi>	wtf?
Mar 17 01:40:01 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 you high?
Mar 17 01:47:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136349922034.png bitcoin, a simple explanation.
Mar 17 01:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11355 @ 0.00071243 = 8.0896 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 01:50:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21421 @ 0.00071579 = 15.3329 BTC [+]
Mar 17 01:54:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16554 @ 0.00071243 = 11.7936 BTC [-]
Mar 17 01:54:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4879 @ 0.00071711 = 3.4988 BTC [+]
Mar 17 02:01:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 71 @ 0.00530736 = 0.3768 BTC [-]
Mar 17 02:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1229 @ 0.0051998 = 6.3906 BTC [-]
Mar 17 02:02:31 <Chaang-Noi>	mp    Forbidden
Mar 17 02:02:32 <Chaang-Noi>	You don't have permission to access /dtng/c/src/136349922034.png on this server.
Mar 17 02:02:32 <Chaang-Noi>	Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Mar 17 02:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 17 02:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	you got rootbanned ? da fuck did you do hmmm ?
Mar 17 02:05:46 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 17 02:05:55 <Chaang-Noi>	iv never posted on your site
Mar 17 02:06:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i have visited maybe 5 times in my life
Mar 17 02:07:25 <Chaang-Noi>	just clicking links posted in here
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Mar 17 02:36:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.02101 BTC [+]
Mar 17 02:36:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.02101 BTC [+]
Mar 17 02:36:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 10 @ 0.021001 = 0.21 BTC [-]
Mar 17 02:36:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.02 = 0.04 BTC [-]
Mar 17 02:36:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.015 = 0.03 BTC [-]
Mar 17 02:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10888 @ 0.00071029 = 7.7336 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 02:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	aa champagne is fucking great
Mar 17 02:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	what did people do before is what i wanna know.
Mar 17 02:54:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2567 @ 0.00071151 = 1.8264 BTC [+]
Mar 17 02:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3183 @ 0.00071848 = 2.2869 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 03:03:37 <Bowjob>	LTC getting hammered
Mar 17 03:07:21 <Ukto>	did i miss anytihng big
Mar 17 03:07:25 <Ukto>	any more forks
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Mar 17 03:12:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i miss anything fun?
Mar 17 03:12:59 <Bowjob>	BTC-E hysteria over :TC
Mar 17 03:13:00 <Bowjob>	LTC
Mar 17 03:13:09 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah, site just went down for me
Mar 17 03:13:21 <ThickAsThieves>	what do you think the rightful price is for ltc now?
Mar 17 03:13:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i think everyone (including myself a little) ran out of money buying in during the wave
Mar 17 03:13:50 <Bowjob>	not to sure, I'll pick some up at 0.9 maybe
Mar 17 03:14:01 <Bowjob>	hows atlantis
Mar 17 03:14:03 <ThickAsThieves>	and now everyone is juust waiting for it to be worth enough to sell off
Mar 17 03:14:21 <ThickAsThieves>	need more buyers
Mar 17 03:14:23 <ThickAsThieves>	and txs
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Mar 17 03:14:37 <Bowjob>	it was .013
Mar 17 03:14:50 <ThickAsThieves>	atlantis looked okay, but i havent gone in to see if they have a market goin in there yet or what
Mar 17 03:14:52 <Bowjob>	then went to 0.01 next time i saw
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Mar 17 03:21:04 <Ukto>	you can trade ltc on BF
Mar 17 03:21:04 <Ukto>	lol
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Mar 17 03:22:20 <Bowjob>	btc-e
Mar 17 03:22:29 <Bowjob>	's been shitty lately
Mar 17 03:27:08 <ThickAsThieves>	ukto i think once you get those couple updates on the ltc page, people will
Mar 17 03:27:22 <ThickAsThieves>	do it before crypto-trade goes live fo sho
Mar 17 03:27:35 <Ukto>	pm
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Mar 17 03:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/pro-poker-wiz-fossilman-busted-prostitution-sting-article-1.1290012
Mar 17 03:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 17 03:46:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 31 @ 0.9 = 27.9 BTC [+]
Mar 17 03:52:39 <Bowjob>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpq5ZmANp0k
Mar 17 03:52:54 <Bowjob>	you may have watched it.. but interesting!
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Mar 17 03:54:26 <ZedsterX>	I have actuially met Greg raymer guess he needs a little too
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Mar 17 04:02:54 <FabianB_>	smickles: i'm fine with the new vwap, only using the pastebin one programmatically
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Mar 17 04:18:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.9 = 6.3 BTC [+]
Mar 17 04:18:55 <dub>	wat
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Mar 17 04:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.07 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 04:30:33 <Ukto>	options trading now live on bitfunder
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Mar 17 04:40:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 32 @ 0.105 = 3.36 BTC [+]
Mar 17 04:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Yn72QM-lg
Mar 17 04:42:14 <mircea_popescu>	remember when we were like... young ?
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Mar 17 04:58:43 <Ukto>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1633487#msg1633487
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Mar 17 05:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.07 = 2.14 BTC [+]
Mar 17 05:00:14 <bowjob>	fking btce not working
Mar 17 05:00:16 <Ukto>	just trade on BF :P
Mar 17 05:00:23 <Ukto>	now that options tading is live it will get more attention
Mar 17 05:01:23 <ZedsterX>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKC7iaBKvs I am selling all my BTC
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Mar 17 05:14:52 <Ukto>	ZedsterX: I see your video and raise you another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAjL_X_ZesE
Mar 17 05:14:53 <Ukto>	:P
Mar 17 05:15:00 <Ukto>	the world is ending, bitcoin is good
Mar 17 05:15:03 <Ukto>	one extreme to the other. :P
Mar 17 05:15:18 <ZedsterX>	too late I sold alreay :)
Mar 17 05:15:23 <ZedsterX>	already*
Mar 17 05:15:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]
Mar 17 05:15:32 <ZedsterX>	Max is my man!
Mar 17 05:15:39 <Ukto>	hehe
Mar 17 05:16:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
Mar 17 05:30:52 <FabianB_>	kakobrekla: can you extend assbot with a command to get a text version of http://bitcoin-assets.com/ for those who prefer terminals over websites?
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Mar 17 05:46:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]
Mar 17 05:49:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00072609 = 11.3996 BTC [+]
Mar 17 05:52:14 <Ukto>	burnside: LOL
Mar 17 05:52:16 <Ukto>	nice post timing
Mar 17 05:54:08 <DeaDTerra>	anyone else getting this message "Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first."
Mar 17 05:54:13 <DeaDTerra>	when trying to execute orders to MPEX?
Mar 17 05:55:44 <FabianB_>	are you using the right key (no subkey)?
Mar 17 05:55:59 <DeaDTerra>	Yes using the same key
Mar 17 05:56:07 <DeaDTerra>	the only thing I have changed is the key I use to encrypt
Mar 17 05:56:14 <DeaDTerra>	which I have changed to  2FB7B452
Mar 17 05:56:21 <DeaDTerra>	as the old MPEX one expired
Mar 17 05:56:48 <FabianB_>	CFE0F3E1 is the new
Mar 17 05:57:49 <DeaDTerra>	ah thanks
Mar 17 05:58:22 <DeaDTerra>	I followed the FAQ, I guess it's not up to date
Mar 17 05:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	isn;t it ?!
Mar 17 05:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#8
Mar 17 05:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	it is!
Mar 17 05:58:51 <FabianB_>	not in 3. though
Mar 17 05:58:53 <DeaDTerra>	"If you wish you may encrypt your key first, use Mircea Popescu's key (gpg --encrypt --armor -r 2FB7B452 also gpg --search-keys "2FB7B452" if gpg complains about not having the key). This will ensure higher anonymity if it justifies the effort for you.
Mar 17 05:58:53 <DeaDTerra>	"
Mar 17 06:00:02 <DeaDTerra>	it works now thanks :D
Mar 17 06:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	ya wekll that's my key, for sending your pubkey over.
Mar 17 06:00:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.9 = 4.5 BTC [+]
Mar 17 06:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	sikritly
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Mar 17 06:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2361 @ 0.005 = 11.805 BTC [-]
Mar 17 06:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6439 @ 0.005 = 32.195 BTC [-]
Mar 17 06:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 300 @ 0.0015 = 0.45 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 06:38:53 <bowjob>	squall got scammed by this dude
Mar 17 06:38:57 <bowjob>	with lots of apparent rep
Mar 17 06:39:20 <bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154124.0
Mar 17 06:42:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 13561 @ 0.005 = 67.805 BTC [-]
Mar 17 07:02:20 <jurov>	why so many ppl think best way to invest btc is loan it out?
Mar 17 07:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	jurov why so many ppl think the way to get laid is to trick some chick into it ?
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Mar 17 07:12:28 <Chaang-Noi>	how do you trick a girl into sex?
Mar 17 07:12:41 <Chaang-Noi>	assuming no rape?
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Mar 17 07:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	some sort of magic
Mar 17 07:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	they have seminars and everything.
Mar 17 07:21:12 <knotwork>	Yes FellowTravelerlowTraveler publishes howto along those lines
Mar 17 07:21:31 <knotwork>	Yes FellowTraveler publishes howto along those lines
Mar 17 07:22:02 <knotwork>	arg massive keyboard-lag
Mar 17 07:24:05 <mircea_popescu>	lolok
Mar 17 07:24:10 <knotwork>	hmm it isnt mentioned in his bio on monetas site so not sure where the link to it is
Mar 17 07:24:55 <knotwork>	ot sure if the seminars he flies around to are on same topic or something else
Mar 17 07:25:55 <knotwork>	The "Chris has seven years of hands-on experience as co-owner and executive of an industry-leading global ecommerce business" might be it, e-commerce as in e-book sales
Mar 17 07:29:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Mar 17 07:39:31 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl ship yet?
Mar 17 07:39:54 <vampireb>	the trick is to get the girl to think that she's tricking you
Mar 17 07:40:42 <Chaang-Noi>	that is a good trick
Mar 17 07:43:38 <vampireb>	ship? probably in a week or so
Mar 17 07:43:41 <vampireb>	one unit at most
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Mar 17 07:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	eh.
Mar 17 07:50:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [+]
Mar 17 07:53:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 4 @ 0.022001 = 0.088 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 08:26:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 29 @ 0.2 = 5.8 BTC [+]
Mar 17 08:35:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01984 BTC [+]
Mar 17 08:36:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01985 BTC [+]
Mar 17 08:36:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Mar 17 08:39:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.9 = 7.2 BTC [+]
Mar 17 08:42:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.88 = 1.76 BTC [-]
Mar 17 08:43:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-]
Mar 17 08:48:42 <DeaDTerra>	A new wall is up for G.SDICE at 0.0052 a share :)
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Mar 17 09:12:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00494 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 09:19:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00444444 = 0.0089 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 09:32:38 <kakobrekla>	ping
Mar 17 09:32:50 <kakobrekla>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Mar 17 09:32:50 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 45 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> eh.
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Mar 17 09:51:41 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 17 09:51:44 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226364 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1443 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 9 hours, 36 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 5988925.47748 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.54293
Mar 17 09:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4759 @ 0.00072609 = 3.4555 BTC [+]
Mar 17 09:52:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18551 @ 0.00072645 = 13.4764 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 10:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.523 BTC [+]
Mar 17 10:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5222 = 1.5666 BTC [-]
Mar 17 10:23:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.522 = 5.22 BTC [-]
Mar 17 10:23:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.52 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Mar 17 10:23:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.517 = 2.585 BTC [-]
Mar 17 10:23:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.516 = 2.58 BTC [-]
Mar 17 10:23:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.515 = 5.15 BTC [-]
Mar 17 10:23:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.512 = 6.656 BTC [-]
Mar 17 10:23:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5101 = 1.0202 BTC [-]
Mar 17 10:23:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 166 @ 0.51 = 84.66 BTC [-]
Mar 17 10:25:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 28 @ 0.105 = 2.94 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 10:35:28 <ZedsterX>	LOL from a thread on the forums....I think Mircea Popescu is a he?
Mar 17 10:37:29 <Chaang-Noi>	yes
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Mar 17 10:39:09 <ZedsterX>	it's really not for sure
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Mar 17 10:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.51 = 5.1 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 10:45:06 <pigeons>	s/he may have both type organs
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Mar 17 10:47:38 <ZedsterX>	hehe this is also a very legit possibility.....It is a purse!
Mar 17 10:52:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 10:53:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
Mar 17 10:53:26 <MJR_>	hi all
Mar 17 10:53:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
Mar 17 10:53:59 <kakobrekla>	hi you
Mar 17 10:54:38 <MJR_>	nice to see a new polimedia article
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Mar 17 11:10:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 11:22:24 <kakobrekla>	FabianB_ which part of the site would you need?
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Mar 17 11:29:24 <Josh_Rossi>	whats up
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Mar 17 11:59:28 <FabianB_>	kakobrekla: rules (how to stay) and list of exchanges, brokers
Mar 17 11:59:51 <kakobrekla>	ok ill add something
Mar 17 12:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5342 @ 0.00072678 = 3.8825 BTC [+]
Mar 17 12:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5375 @ 0.00072729 = 3.9092 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 12:31:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01112 BTC [-]
Mar 17 12:33:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.943 BTC [+]
Mar 17 12:34:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [-]
Mar 17 12:34:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 12:44:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 12:45:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.3489 = 1.7445 BTC [+]
Mar 17 12:50:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.17299 = 0.519 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 13:14:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 13:28:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.105 = 2.1 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 13:41:20 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 17 13:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00444444 / 0.00503785 / 0.00537099 (25984 shares, 130.90 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00527229 / 0.006 (88427 shares, 466.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00610297 / 0.0069 (2307063 shares, 14,079.94 BTC)
Mar 17 13:41:32 <vampireb>	;;ticker
Mar 17 13:41:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.60001, Best ask: 47.61986, Bid-ask spread: 0.01985, Last trade: 47.60000, 24 hour volume: 15884.99361415, 24 hour low: 46.70001, 24 hour high: 47.74000, 24 hour vwap: 47.30650
Mar 17 13:43:00 <kakobrekla>	!l m s.dice
Mar 17 13:43:01 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00444444 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 13:45:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+]
Mar 17 13:46:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3743 @ 0.00072729 = 2.7222 BTC [+]
Mar 17 13:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13503 @ 0.00072829 = 9.8341 BTC [+]
Mar 17 13:51:10 <Bugpowder>	55 Thash /s !
Mar 17 13:53:11 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Mar 17 13:53:42 <Bugpowder>	some asics must have just gotten turned on
Mar 17 13:54:04 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,stats
Mar 17 13:54:07 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226409 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1398 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 18 hours, 52 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6152947.77978 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.92648
Mar 17 14:02:03 <jurov>	interesting, only 300 Unconfirmed Transactions and blocks have avg size 100kB?
Mar 17 14:02:15 <jurov>	anyone knows what happened?
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Mar 17 14:04:14 <Bugpowder>	asics
Mar 17 14:04:27 <Bugpowder>	look at the current hash rate
Mar 17 14:04:30 <Bugpowder>	55TH
Mar 17 14:05:25 <Anduck>	wow???
Mar 17 14:05:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00072829 = 9.1765 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 14:06:23 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug which chart are you viewing?
Mar 17 14:06:45 <Chaang-Noi>	http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-10k.png
Mar 17 14:07:01 <Chaang-Noi>	might not be same chart but iv been looking at that for a while
Mar 17 14:07:19 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl, avalon or asicminer... hmmm
Mar 17 14:07:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i know who i hope it is:)
Mar 17 14:07:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00495 = 0.0099 BTC [+]
Mar 17 14:08:50 <jurov>	if they caused difficulty to rise before March 21, X.IDIFF.MAR would end up very well... but not likely to happen
Mar 17 14:08:58 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 17 14:09:09 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: the sipa charts are off scale
Mar 17 14:09:15 <smickles>	$vwap x.idiff.mar
Mar 17 14:09:16 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.07495412 high: 0.07595 low: 0.0639995 volume: 36 btc: 2.6983485
Mar 17 14:09:27 <Chaang-Noi>	4 blocks in a row done by btcguild :)
Mar 17 14:09:43 <Bugpowder>	jurov: That's why I'm not going under .5 on MARs.
Mar 17 14:09:44 <jurov>	http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate o wow
Mar 17 14:10:16 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: The header on bitcoincharts is saying 54.6
Mar 17 14:10:41 <Chaang-Noi>	wonder who it is.... come on be asic miner:)
Mar 17 14:10:44 <Bugpowder>	I don't think there is enough time to roll the diff before the futures exp, but I will pull my asks if it gets close
Mar 17 14:10:52 <Chaang-Noi>	no way bfl could get that much done that fast
Mar 17 14:10:54 <Bugpowder>	looks like UNKNOWN, which implies avalon
Mar 17 14:11:14 <Chaang-Noi>	i could see it being them
Mar 17 14:11:26 <Chaang-Noi>	people getting their stuff fianly on a monday in the usa
Mar 17 14:11:36 <Chaang-Noi>	but no one is posting that i can see
Mar 17 14:11:44 <toffoo>	hmm…the hashrate for "anonymous" on ozco.in has doubled since I last checked it
Mar 17 14:12:10 <Chaang-Noi>	3 th now
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Mar 17 14:12:24 <Chaang-Noi>	that is a lot of avalons
Mar 17 14:12:25 <jurov>	well, they need to make 1398 blocks in 3 days instead of 6.. that implies twice the hashrate?
Mar 17 14:12:33 <jurov>	sustained whole time
Mar 17 14:12:35 <Chaang-Noi>	and asicminer has been known to mine there right?
Mar 17 14:12:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16799 BTC [-]
Mar 17 14:13:05 <ThickAsThieves>	what TH were we at before the rise?
Mar 17 14:13:37 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer says they will only use names that you can tell its them
Mar 17 14:13:45 <Chaang-Noi>	damn :(
Mar 17 14:13:45 <ThickAsThieves>	like bitfountain
Mar 17 14:13:49 <toffoo>	asicminer has previously denied anonymous at ozco.in is them
Mar 17 14:13:57 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Mar 17 14:14:19 <ThickAsThieves>	bfl minirigs?
Mar 17 14:14:29 <Chaang-Noi>	it has got to be avalons then, i doubt its bfl
Mar 17 14:14:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet its them "testing" the rigs in china
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Mar 17 14:15:11 <Chaang-Noi>	btcguild 5 of the last 7 blocks
Mar 17 14:15:26 <toffoo>	if I was mining with bfl mini rigs right now, I'd try to be a bit more discreet than putting it all on ozco.in
Mar 17 14:15:42 <toffoo>	gotta be avalons
Mar 17 14:17:09 <Chaang-Noi>	now 6 of the last 8 blocks are btguild...
Mar 17 14:17:11 <Chaang-Noi>	crazy
Mar 17 14:17:55 <toffoo>	so this little bump in hash rate should be enough to push us thru $50 soon right?
Mar 17 14:19:11 <Bugpowder>	I think Cyprus is what would put us thru 50
Mar 17 14:19:36 <toffoo>	that too
Mar 17 14:19:50 <Chaang-Noi>	well, there is that wall just under 50...
Mar 17 14:19:57 <Chaang-Noi>	but we are not going down either..
Mar 17 14:20:08 <Chaang-Noi>	nesxt week should be interestintg :)
Mar 17 14:20:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.349 = 3.49 BTC [+]
Mar 17 14:21:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Mar 17 14:21:25 <ThickAsThieves>	Cyprus?
Mar 17 14:21:53 <Bugpowder>	deposit seizure
Mar 17 14:21:56 <Bugpowder>	10%
Mar 17 14:22:05 <Bugpowder>	unclear if it will pass now though
Mar 17 14:22:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 100 @ 0.105 = 10.5 BTC [+]
Mar 17 14:22:26 <Bugpowder>	they have 28 votes, need 29
Mar 17 14:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 944 @ 0.00072829 = 0.6875 BTC [+]
Mar 17 14:23:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10688 @ 0.00073084 = 7.8112 BTC [+]
Mar 17 14:23:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 17 14:26:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 34 @ 0.01 = 0.34 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 14:37:40 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 17 14:37:41 <gribble>	44255.61244696319
Mar 17 14:38:52 <jcpham>	man ihad a wil weekend
Mar 17 14:39:03 <jcpham>	i here there's a rally brewing
Mar 17 14:39:31 <Bugpowder>	could be
Mar 17 14:39:39 <Bugpowder>	lots of overhead resistance
Mar 17 14:39:46 <Bugpowder>	but Cyprus sounds like a game changer
Mar 17 14:39:58 <jcpham>	i met some big-wigs at a local brewery
Mar 17 14:40:07 <jcpham>	nice new contacts
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Mar 17 14:40:15 <jcpham>	lots of local "reach"
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Mar 17 14:40:57 <jcpham>	i'm much more interested in bitcoin adoption ona local scale
Mar 17 14:42:03 <dub>	you herd about brewing rallies at a brewery
Mar 17 14:42:20 <jcpham>	the brewery people had heard of me
Mar 17 14:42:23 <jcpham>	and bitcoin
Mar 17 14:42:28 <jcpham>	and we talked
Mar 17 14:42:31 <dub>	aka you got them to drink your koolaid
Mar 17 14:42:35 <jcpham>	very late
Mar 17 14:42:43 <jcpham>	then we did like this after party thing
Mar 17 14:42:47 <jcpham>	i can't talk about it
Mar 17 14:42:52 <dub>	lol
Mar 17 14:43:00 <jcpham>	go bitcoin
Mar 17 14:43:02 <dub>	illbrewminati?
Mar 17 14:43:20 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Mar 17 14:43:25 <jcpham>	well, in my state
Mar 17 14:43:38 <jcpham>	the laws have just changed allowing brewing
Mar 17 14:43:46 <jcpham>	so this people sortof revolutionary
Mar 17 14:43:52 <jcpham>	because they have passed laws
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Mar 17 14:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0015 = 0.75 BTC [-]
Mar 17 14:59:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.94275 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 15:09:58 <Bugpowder>	Eur usd opens down 1.5c
Mar 17 15:10:26 <kakobrekla>	where?
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Mar 17 15:12:06 <Bugpowder>	Xe.com
Mar 17 15:13:34 <kakobrekla>	good, im short from 1.305
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Mar 17 15:37:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8885 BTC [-]
Mar 17 15:37:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8885 = 1.777 BTC [-]
Mar 17 15:37:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.888 BTC [-]
Mar 17 15:37:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-]
Mar 17 15:38:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.86 = 3.44 BTC [-]
Mar 17 15:40:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.48993 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 15:42:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1978 = 0.5934 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 15:45:32 <tiberiusiv>	its not really a deposit seizure if all the deposits have been lent out
Mar 17 15:45:46 <tiberiusiv>	depositers can blame themselves for lack of due deligience
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Mar 17 15:50:51 <kakobrekla>	!r kakobrekla
Mar 17 15:51:09 <kakobrekla>	!e kakobrekla
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Mar 17 15:52:40 <kakobrekla>	!e kakobrekla
Mar 17 15:52:56 <kakobrekla>	!r kakobrekla
Mar 17 15:53:13 <kakobrekla>	cool
Mar 17 15:53:21 <kakobrekla>	FabianB_
Mar 17 15:53:33 <assbot>	Listing exchanges on #bitcoin-assets - requested by kakobrekla
Mar 17 15:53:34 <assbot>	Exchanges:
Mar 17 15:53:35 <assbot>	- MPEX: http://mpex.com - IRC handle: mircea_popescu
Mar 17 15:53:36 <assbot>	- Havelock: https://www.havelockinvestments.com - IRC handle: topace
Mar 17 15:53:37 <assbot>	- BTCTC: https://btct.co - IRC handle: burnside
Mar 17 15:53:38 <assbot>	Brokers:
Mar 17 15:53:39 <assbot>	- CoinBR - https://coinbr.com/about - IRC handle: jurov
Mar 17 15:53:54 <kakobrekla>	and !r for rules :p
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Mar 17 16:00:07 <benkay>	!r
Mar 17 16:00:42 <kakobrekla>	!r
Mar 17 16:00:57 <kakobrekla>	ok it works :)
Mar 17 16:00:59 <benkay>	kakobrekla, i'm getting incompatible encodings on the first 3 lines returned from assbot
Mar 17 16:01:11 <kakobrekla>	uh
Mar 17 16:01:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.9209 = 13.8135 BTC [+]
Mar 17 16:02:09 <benkay>	!r
Mar 17 16:02:12 <benkay>	are you seeing that?
Mar 17 16:02:28 <kakobrekla>	seeing what?
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Mar 17 16:04:17 <benkay>	when assbot pms back on a rules request, the first three lines have "(incompatible encoding)" appended to them.
Mar 17 16:04:25 <kakobrekla>	!r
Mar 17 16:04:28 <kakobrekla>	try now
Mar 17 16:04:35 <benkay>	!r
Mar 17 16:04:36 <kakobrekla>	ah lol
Mar 17 16:04:51 <kakobrekla>	wait
Mar 17 16:04:52 <benkay>	now we have encoding probs
Mar 17 16:05:00 <kakobrekla>	yea i see whats wrong
Mar 17 16:05:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 16:06:27 <kakobrekla>	!r
Mar 17 16:06:39 <kakobrekla>	benkay now?
Mar 17 16:06:45 <benkay>	!rt
Mar 17 16:06:46 <benkay>	!r
Mar 17 16:06:59 <benkay>	line 2
Mar 17 16:07:13 <kakobrekla>	o ya
Mar 17 16:07:23 <benkay>	bitcoin-assets
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Mar 17 16:07:39 <benkay>	testing production in public is our shit
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Mar 17 16:07:50 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 17 16:07:54 <benkay>	bitcoin-dev
Mar 17 16:07:55 <benkay>	tests?
Mar 17 16:08:02 <kakobrekla>	:DD
Mar 17 16:08:09 <kakobrekla>	!r
Mar 17 16:08:15 <kakobrekla>	try now
Mar 17 16:08:18 <kakobrekla>	!e
Mar 17 16:08:21 <kakobrekla>	pr
Mar 17 16:08:23 <kakobrekla>	eh
Mar 17 16:08:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.9189 = 1.8378 BTC [-]
Mar 17 16:08:27 <kakobrekla>	!r benkay
Mar 17 16:08:34 <kakobrekla>	!e benkay
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Mar 17 16:09:24 <benkay>	looks good
Mar 17 16:09:28 <kakobrekla>	k
Mar 17 16:10:04 <kakobrekla>	!e FabianB_
Mar 17 16:10:07 <kakobrekla>	!r FabianB_
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Mar 17 16:14:58 <jcpham>	http://nickcammarata.com/man-mugged-for-10btc
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Mar 17 16:15:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000708 = 0.0708 BTC [-]
Mar 17 16:16:06 <benkay>	bahahaha
Mar 17 16:16:26 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Mar 17 16:20:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00073289 = 4.3607 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 16:30:16 <smickles>	"...but fluctuated between $600 and $3 during the time John was walking home." << did we have a flash-crash or something when I wasn't looking?
Mar 17 16:32:47 <benkay>	just a funny, i fink.
Mar 17 16:34:33 <jurov>	they should have measured it in pizzaz
Mar 17 16:35:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3499 BTC [-]
Mar 17 16:36:48 <dub>	!r
Mar 17 16:37:04 <jurov>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 17 16:37:05 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00071029 / 0.00072186 / 0.00073289 (362607 shares, 261.75 BTC), 7D: 0.00068804 / 0.00072646 / 0.00077241 (1969165 shares, 1,430.53 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00070103 / 0.00078628 (41384304 shares, 29,011.77 BTC)
Mar 17 16:37:20 <benkay>	i was considering the disneyworld ticket as an inflation proxy the other day.
Mar 17 16:37:26 <benkay>	did you know that humans go to disneyworld?
Mar 17 16:37:29 <benkay>	this astonishes me.
Mar 17 16:38:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.00495 = 0.0396 BTC [+]
Mar 17 16:39:53 <jurov>	why? name me one place that humans can go but won't
Mar 17 16:40:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.00499 = 0.0898 BTC [+]
Mar 17 16:41:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.889 BTC [-]
Mar 17 16:43:49 <FabianB_>	kakobrekla: only in pm? why not oneliners in public?
Mar 17 16:43:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 16:45:18 <FabianB_>	anyway, kakobrekla, putting a !r and !help in topic might be nice
Mar 17 16:47:01 <kakobrekla>	FabianB_
Mar 17 16:47:13 <kakobrekla>	!r #bitcoin-assets
Mar 17 16:47:13 <assbot>	Listing #bitcoin-assets rules - requested by kakobrekla
Mar 17 16:47:14 <assbot>	- don't spam too much, it's spammy
Mar 17 16:47:15 <assbot>	- don't use of 'afk' or 'away' on the chan or your nick, it's spammy
Mar 17 16:47:16 <assbot>	- don't slap yourself [in public] (yes you DeadWeasel), it's spammy
Mar 17 16:47:17 <assbot>	- anything you say is public and can be used by anyone
Mar 17 16:47:18 <assbot>	- we do like bacon and eggs, even sausages most of the time
Mar 17 16:47:31 <FabianB_>	ah, cool
Mar 17 16:48:06 <benkay>	jurov: the joke underpinning what i was saying is that i'm a weirdo.
Mar 17 16:48:20 <benkay>	and don't understand common american experiences like, say, disneyworld.
Mar 17 16:48:38 <benkay>	went once with the fam, ~15
Mar 17 16:48:42 <benkay>	reaction o.O
Mar 17 16:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
Mar 17 16:49:04 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc is fun
Mar 17 16:49:31 <jurov>	hehe, i was never in disneyworld or like, but can imagine
Mar 17 16:51:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.56789999 BTC [+]
Mar 17 16:52:06 <jurov>	plus, one of my personalities does enjoy such plastic mainstream fun
Mar 17 16:52:48 <jurov>	good to have it, otherwise i'd be seriously bored sometimes xD
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Mar 17 16:55:03 <benkay>	i empathize to an eerie degree with that statement.
Mar 17 16:55:14 <benkay>	except for the whole enjoying mainstream fun
Mar 17 16:55:25 <jurov>	!r #bitcoin-offtopic
Mar 17 16:55:37 <jurov>	no rules, right.
Mar 17 16:55:53 <benkay>	i was hoping that would pipe the rules *to* bitcoin-offtopic
Mar 17 16:56:07 <benkay>	subtle message re: current topic?
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Mar 17 16:56:27 <tiberiusiv>	why are there so little satoshidice bets occuring?
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Mar 17 16:57:07 <jurov>	tiberiusiv no clue
Mar 17 16:57:35 <jurov>	i did notice there's fewer waiting txs, thought
Mar 17 16:57:43 <jurov>	*though
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Mar 17 17:02:55 <kakobrekla>	btw howmuch hashpower is 1 asic share
Mar 17 17:02:59 <kakobrekla>	or whatever?
Mar 17 17:03:03 <kakobrekla>	asicminer
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Mar 17 17:03:46 <ThickAsThieves>	there are 200000 shares i believe
Mar 17 17:04:04 <Anduck>	400000
Mar 17 17:04:04 <kakobrekla>	whats the current hash output?
Mar 17 17:04:14 <kakobrekla>	?
Mar 17 17:04:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00073984 = 4.809 BTC [+]
Mar 17 17:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.0007437 = 4.2391 BTC [+]
Mar 17 17:04:27 <ThickAsThieves>	who knows?
Mar 17 17:04:35 <ThickAsThieves>	best guess is 6th
Mar 17 17:04:35 <Anduck>	atleast 6thash
Mar 17 17:04:50 <Anduck>	yeh
Mar 17 17:04:53 <Anduck>	best guess
Mar 17 17:05:48 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 17 17:05:49 <gribble>	45501.700912928311
Mar 17 17:06:37 <leotreasure>	all their hashpower is here http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=rankings
Mar 17 17:06:54 <leotreasure>	6.25445
Mar 17 17:07:16 <kakobrekla>	6.2 th over 400.000 shares?
Mar 17 17:07:26 <leotreasure>	yes i believe so
Mar 17 17:07:47 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 6200 / 400000
Mar 17 17:07:47 <gribble>	0.0155
Mar 17 17:07:56 <kakobrekla>	0.0155 gh/share?
Mar 17 17:08:09 <leotreasure>	sounds about right
Mar 17 17:08:34 <dub>	double until this wed
Mar 17 17:08:41 <kakobrekla>	?
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Mar 17 17:08:51 <dub>	there are 400k shares of which 200 were sold at IPO
Mar 17 17:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-]
Mar 17 17:09:05 <dub>	the agreement is to pay out the 0.1 ipo price to teh 200k shares first
Mar 17 17:09:21 <dub>	that will be sittled this week at which point all 400k shares recieve divs
Mar 17 17:09:29 <dub>	setlled
Mar 17 17:09:41 <kakobrekla>	what a cluster fuck
Mar 17 17:10:02 <dub>	want to buy some? :)
Mar 17 17:11:03 <kakobrekla>	22:07.51 ( kakobrekla ) 0.0155 gh/share?
Mar 17 17:11:06 <kakobrekla>	this cant be right
Mar 17 17:11:19 <kakobrekla>	1000 mh = 1gh
Mar 17 17:11:31 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 0.0155 * 1000
Mar 17 17:11:31 <gribble>	15.5
Mar 17 17:11:38 <kakobrekla>	15 mhash for like 1 btc??
Mar 17 17:11:40 <dub>	its not right, because afaik they havent had a stable period fo hashing yet
Mar 17 17:11:53 <dub>	they have power or cooling problems so its been all over the place
Mar 17 17:12:17 <kakobrekla>	is my maffs off?
Mar 17 17:12:18 <dub>	they have 12th worth of chips apparently but have only had 6or so online at once
Mar 17 17:13:02 <kakobrekla>	ah
Mar 17 17:13:11 <kakobrekla>	6.2 th is 62000 gh
Mar 17 17:13:15 <kakobrekla>	or what
Mar 17 17:13:40 <dub>	your maff is good
Mar 17 17:13:50 <dub>	;;calc (6.2*1000*1000)/400000
Mar 17 17:13:50 <gribble>	15.5
Mar 17 17:13:57 <dub>	mh^
Mar 17 17:14:06 <kakobrekla>	i cannot belive that
Mar 17 17:14:28 <dub>	this is bitcoin, what is believable is unbelievable
Mar 17 17:14:31 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 250/15
Mar 17 17:14:32 <gribble>	16.6666666667
Mar 17 17:14:48 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 17 17:15:26 <gribble>	1 BTC = 47.29000 U.S. dollars = 36.2236691 Euros
Mar 17 17:15:26 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 36*16
Mar 17 17:15:26 <gribble>	576
Mar 17 17:15:26 <kakobrekla>	so my ztex single is worth 576 with that pricing.
Mar 17 17:15:32 <kakobrekla>	euros
Mar 17 17:15:33 <kakobrekla>	ftw
Mar 17 17:15:33 <dub>	well, no
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Mar 17 17:15:51 <dub>	with AM you are buying the dream
Mar 17 17:16:00 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 17 17:16:00 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226435 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1372 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 19 hours, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6143596.27281 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.73357
Mar 17 17:17:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 12 @ 0.00499 = 0.0599 BTC [+]
Mar 17 17:18:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000708 = 0.0212 BTC [-]
Mar 17 17:22:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00986 BTC [-]
Mar 17 17:24:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.00985 = 0.0296 BTC [-]
Mar 17 17:24:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 17:29:38 <dub>	kakobrekla: ie, they already have another 50Th of chips fabbed and being assembled
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Mar 17 17:38:58 <benkay>	$depth
Mar 17 17:39:00 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=s5rkwRJp
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Mar 17 17:44:32 <jurov>	oh my, we need to go to such lengths to get piece of json from mpex?
Mar 17 17:45:54 <jurov>	it's here (as long as mpex.co works): http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth.php
Mar 17 17:47:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87875 BTC [-]
Mar 17 17:48:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [+]
Mar 17 17:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7318 @ 0.00073289 = 5.3633 BTC [-]
Mar 17 17:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4382 @ 0.00072578 = 3.1804 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 17:54:52 <smickles>	ok, i'm just going to do packaging later
Mar 17 17:54:54 <smickles>	https://smickles.com/mpex-gui/
Mar 17 17:55:16 <smickles>	for anyone who want's an MPEx gui app
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Mar 17 17:56:57 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i just decided to release the gui w/o platform specific packaging
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Mar 17 17:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [-]
Mar 17 17:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what's that do ?
Mar 17 17:57:41 <smickles>	it means that people have to install the requirements first
Mar 17 17:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	ah
Mar 17 17:57:59 <jurov>	smickles, buttons to buy 250k, 750k, 1m shares are missing!
Mar 17 17:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	why tho ?
Mar 17 17:58:08 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/because-most-people-are-idiots-in-spite-of-never-manning-up-and-admitting-to-it/#comment-92381 <<lol
Mar 17 17:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	which one of you is that ?
Mar 17 17:58:51 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: why? because i didn't code the thing in C, and I used libraries
Mar 17 17:59:12 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it'll cut your windows adoption by like 80%
Mar 17 17:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	and linux people prefer the cli anyway
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Mar 17 18:00:17 <Namworld>	python doesn't work on my windows 7
Mar 17 18:00:29 <Namworld>	I tried idk how many times to get it to work without success.
Mar 17 18:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0051 = 1.02 BTC [+]
Mar 17 18:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0051 = 0.255 BTC [+]
Mar 17 18:00:54 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 17 18:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	now that sucks.
Mar 17 18:01:26 <jurov>	smickles, just make a small linux vm :D
Mar 17 18:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 17 18:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	smickles , make the line!
Mar 17 18:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	line is not a linux emulator
Mar 17 18:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	Line Is Not a linux Emu Lattor!
Mar 17 18:02:57 <smickles>	well, basically, there is a good product now, so I'm putting it out there. As time goes on, I'll develop it further, including per platform packaging
Mar 17 18:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Mar 17 18:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	that's quite different :p
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Mar 17 18:03:48 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: so the link (since you missed it the first time) is https://smickles.com/mpex-gui/
Mar 17 18:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	can i have smickles mpex gui but with pork ?
Mar 17 18:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	haha what, you have your own irc namechan ?
Mar 17 18:05:03 <mircea_popescu>	* Now talking on #smickles
Mar 17 18:05:03 <mircea_popescu>	<mircea_popescu> haha hai!
Mar 17 18:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	ok this has buttential
Mar 17 18:05:12 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: there will be pork in the minecraft version
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Mar 17 18:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Mar 17 18:05:30 <mircea_popescu>	cool beans smickles. lemme twitter
Mar 17 18:05:41 <jurov>	how many licenses sold so far?
Mar 17 18:06:21 <smickles>	;;tslb
Mar 17 18:06:23 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 22 seconds
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Mar 17 18:06:38 <smickles>	jurov: in the 10 min since launch? no confirmed sales yet
Mar 17 18:06:49 <smickles>	i deliver on 1 confirmation
Mar 17 18:07:16 <mircea_popescu>	42
Mar 17 18:07:22 <bgupta>	So was looking at trading in AM, and it seems their marketcap is ~16-17 million USD? (Using 400,000 shares)
Mar 17 18:07:40 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta at the current prices about there.
Mar 17 18:09:58 <bgupta>	seems a bit high considering the uncertainty.. however, it could work out for shareholders if AM can keep their advantage for a little longer than expected. (BFL shipping in volume is the big question mark I guess.)
Mar 17 18:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.0
Mar 17 18:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	topic pretty much covered there i think
Mar 17 18:11:32 <bgupta>	thx
Mar 17 18:11:45 <jurov>	oh this remind me i wanted to short am via bf options
Mar 17 18:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	jurov o.0
Mar 17 18:12:44 <jurov>	yea, bitfunder has options nao
Mar 17 18:13:08 <jurov>	pity that ukto is "outta here"
Mar 17 18:13:15 <bgupta>	jurov. I don't think you can sell naked calls, can you?
Mar 17 18:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	well he can buy puts in any event
Mar 17 18:13:53 <jurov>	i have to wrap my head around them first. maybe i'll buy puts instead
Mar 17 18:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	jurov if there's no market making on the options tho...
Mar 17 18:15:12 <jurov>	there are already some offers, but not much
Mar 17 18:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	you know, it's very funny. all these idiots were like "o, s.mpoe price is not real!!!111" and yet you can borrow 100mn shares right now if you have the credit
Mar 17 18:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand i'd like to borrow 100k asicminer shares and there's no way to do it, all the total volume for the month is like 1k btc which is what bitbet does ffs
Mar 17 18:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	yet "great investment".
Mar 17 18:16:40 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is basically full of idiots still.
Mar 17 18:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	no idea about anything whatsoever, from devteam to the newest forum member, virtually all clueless as rocks.
Mar 17 18:17:13 <bgupta>	you'd like to borrow 50% of the outstanding (tradable shares)?? Good luck with that.
Mar 17 18:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta irl i can do that on plenty shitty 20mn venture by monday morning.
Mar 17 18:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	sure, i can't borrow 1/4 of google float, but that is BECAUSE I DONT HAVE THE CREDIT
Mar 17 18:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	if i did i could.
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Mar 17 18:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	(and for the record, unlike mpex where the book is actually kept, you have no idea if asicminer sold 400k or 600k or 1.2mn shares in total)
Mar 17 18:22:38 <bgupta>	I'm guessing one would want to be a bit careful shorting something like AM since you'd be on the hook for paying the btc dividends for the shares you shorted.
Mar 17 18:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	that's always the case neh ?
Mar 17 18:24:17 <Anduck>	whats the best way to get btc value
Mar 17 18:24:17 <Anduck>	?
Mar 17 18:24:26 <Anduck>	vwap, 24h avg?
Mar 17 18:24:34 <smickles>	obligitory: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=78.0
Mar 17 18:24:48 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 17 18:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	Anduck that's what i use
Mar 17 18:24:49 <gribble>	46.85
Mar 17 18:24:58 <Anduck>	which one ?
Mar 17 18:25:05 <smickles>	Anduck: that is the vwap of all exchanges on bitcoincharts
Mar 17 18:25:11 <smickles>	what's the application?
Mar 17 18:25:19 <Anduck>	well usd->btc basicly
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Mar 17 18:25:25 <Anduck>	and i would like the most accurate price
Mar 17 18:25:29 <smickles>	Anduck: maybe spot
Mar 17 18:25:35 <smickles>	*spot on gox
Mar 17 18:25:43 <Anduck>	hmm
Mar 17 18:25:44 <smickles>	or best bid on gox
Mar 17 18:25:52 <Anduck>	best bid could work
Mar 17 18:26:22 <Anduck>	but i think some avg price is better
Mar 17 18:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	if you're looking for "least likely to be unfair to either party on the long term" price, then i'd go with the 24hour all-exchange vwap
Mar 17 18:26:57 <Anduck>	which is better, vwap or 24h avg?
Mar 17 18:26:58 <smickles>	if you think mpex is a good model, it uses bc,24hprc
Mar 17 18:27:03 <Anduck>	aight
Mar 17 18:27:05 <mircea_popescu>	if you're looking for somethingelse then it'd depend on what you;re looking for
Mar 17 18:27:39 <Anduck>	i'll go with that 24hour vwap, for start mtgox only
Mar 17 18:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	you know it's trivial to pull tctm's json
Mar 17 18:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/t/weighted_prices.json
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Mar 17 18:28:33 <Anduck>	hmm
Mar 17 18:28:36 <Anduck>	ok. thanks
Mar 17 18:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	so what happened to mtgox volume
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Mar 17 18:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	past 3 days together comes to like... 20% of chainfork day
Mar 17 18:31:40 <smickles>	jez, the next volumeous competitior is >10% in size
Mar 17 18:31:56 <smickles>	(on bitcoincharts anyway)
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Mar 17 18:43:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1977 BTC [-]
Mar 17 18:43:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.1978 = 1.978 BTC [+]
Mar 17 18:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	hey, how much did bitfloor lose ? was it 20k ?
Mar 17 18:46:58 <smickles>	13?
Mar 17 18:47:27 <smickles>	there's peeps who have a script that compares losses to fees earned since then, iirc
Mar 17 18:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	24 no ?
Mar 17 18:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	iirc
Mar 17 18:48:12 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105819.0
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Mar 17 18:48:52 <jurov>	Kernel panic - not syncing: grsec: halting the system due to suspicious kernel crash caused by root
Mar 17 18:48:59 <smickles>	so 30k?
Mar 17 18:49:02 <jurov>	so it came to my own machines being paranoid
Mar 17 18:49:05 <jurov>	against me
Mar 17 18:49:19 <smickles>	lol
Mar 17 18:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	kik
Mar 17 18:58:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34999 = 0.7 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 19:05:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 37 @ 0.105 = 3.885 BTC [+]
Mar 17 19:05:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 58 @ 0.105 = 6.09 BTC [+]
Mar 17 19:08:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000709 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
Mar 17 19:08:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.00071 = 0.0028 BTC [+]
Mar 17 19:08:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 130 @ 0.00071 = 0.0923 BTC [+]
Mar 17 19:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed.
Mar 17 19:10:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.88875 BTC [+]
Mar 17 19:11:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.889 = 6.223 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 19:14:40 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 17 19:14:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.27501, Best ask: 47.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07499, Last trade: 47.35000, 24 hour volume: 13728.98363142, 24 hour low: 46.80000, 24 hour high: 47.74000, 24 hour vwap: 47.39847
Mar 17 19:16:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Mar 17 19:17:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 87 @ 0.00499 = 0.4341 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 19:22:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Mar 17 19:22:33 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 17 19:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c2e04fad23533e2662e326e340ebc54476309fe6d0d7781aceab3d44
Mar 17 19:23:11 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 17 19:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;buy 1 "$100 Trader Joe's Gift Certificate" at 2.2 BTC
Mar 17 19:24:47 <gribble>	Order id 14061 created.
Mar 17 19:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;order 14061
Mar 17 19:24:53 <gribble>	Error: "order" is not a valid command.
Mar 17 19:26:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.889 BTC [+]
Mar 17 19:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;view 14061
Mar 17 19:26:38 <gribble>	#14061 Sun Mar 17 16:24:47 2013 mircea_popescu BUY 1.0 $100 Trader Joe's Gift Certificate @ 2.2 BTC (None)
Mar 17 19:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	somebody be a darling and paste that in -otc too.
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Mar 17 19:33:59 <Anduck>	why dont u do it urself..?
Mar 17 19:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	cause i'm in yurp ?
Mar 17 19:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	a, on otc ? i don't go in that scumpit sorry.
Mar 17 19:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, piuk is moving blockchain towards a proxy model. GOOD.
Mar 17 19:38:14 <pizzaman1337>	does he mention that on the forums somewhere? have a link?
Mar 17 19:40:21 <pizzaman1337>	I see it
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Mar 17 19:46:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 17 19:48:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/adMinya.png
Mar 17 19:48:28 <mircea_popescu>	does anyone like the coffee cup mpex ?
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Mar 17 19:49:52 <kakobrekla>	not too shabby
Mar 17 19:50:20 <pizzaman1337>	why blue and black for buttons? it doesn't really fit
Mar 17 19:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	ya i was thinking that.
Mar 17 19:50:29 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 17 19:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	cunt pink'd be better.
Mar 17 19:50:35 <kakobrekla>	:))
Mar 17 19:50:40 <mircea_popescu>	make people really wanna click it you know ?
Mar 17 19:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	salmon.
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Mar 17 19:51:50 <Bugpowder>	Blue and Black buttons are terrible.
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Mar 17 19:52:02 <Bugpowder>	Main logo looks pixelated
Mar 17 19:52:39 <GoWest>	ooh I didn't know this channel existed. Awesome.
Mar 17 19:52:39 <Bugpowder>	whereas the current "Welcome to MPEx" looks clean
Mar 17 19:52:44 <Anduck>	sorry but it looks like it's from the 90s
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Mar 17 19:53:03 <Bugpowder>	GoWest: You have been running your blog and twitter for how long and didn't know this channel existed?
Mar 17 19:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	GoWest hello.
Mar 17 19:53:13 <Bugpowder>	This is were all the real shit in BTC finance goes down
Mar 17 19:53:24 <Bugpowder>	Welcome!
Mar 17 19:53:55 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you apparently also missed the memo on the gift horse mouthlooking.
Mar 17 19:53:59 <mircea_popescu>	must read moar btctalk.
Mar 17 19:54:19 <Bugpowder>	I don't need to read moar btctalk, must read less
Mar 17 19:54:21 <Bugpowder>	much less
Mar 17 19:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	much much less.
Mar 17 19:54:58 <mircea_popescu>	how's life been treatin' ya ?
Mar 17 19:55:00 <Bugpowder>	Anyway, besides those two issues with the coffee formatting, it looks good
Mar 17 19:55:03 <Bugpowder>	Pretty good
Mar 17 19:55:13 <Bugpowder>	Had interview
Mar 17 19:55:19 <Bugpowder>	down to 3 candidates
Mar 17 19:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	can has interview ? can!
Mar 17 19:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Mar 17 19:55:27 <Bugpowder>	hopefully going back in 2 weeks
Mar 17 19:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	i hate these endless interview processes.
Mar 17 19:55:37 <Bugpowder>	have a different one lined up for next week
Mar 17 19:55:43 <mircea_popescu>	i've always made on the spot decisions
Mar 17 19:55:51 <Bugpowder>	It's fairly intense
Mar 17 19:56:00 <Bugpowder>	In sell mode for 2 days, including dinner
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Mar 17 19:56:15 <Bugpowder>	err, pitch mode
Mar 17 19:56:19 <benkay>	meh, jurov, i just wanted to look at it
Mar 17 19:56:25 <GoWest>	Hey guys, buy some ZigGap. =)
Mar 17 19:56:35 <Bugpowder>	GoWest: are you involved with that?
Mar 17 19:56:42 <GoWest>	Just a shareholder.
Mar 17 19:56:45 <Bugpowder>	ah
Mar 17 19:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	i always say, dude, shareholders are the best advertising you'll ever get.
Mar 17 19:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	some people get it. most don't ;/
Mar 17 19:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	ima quote GoWest from now on as a case study :D
Mar 17 19:57:18 <GoWest>	It really seems to have stagnated, though I think the company has potential.  They keep running out of Bitcoins, so obviously business is brisk.
Mar 17 19:57:38 <Bugpowder>	everyone that is selling, is running out
Mar 17 19:57:41 <mircea_popescu>	GoWest you know, if the donut shop always runs out of donuts i don't conclude trade is brisk
Mar 17 19:58:03 <GoWest>	Fair enough!
Mar 17 19:58:19 <Bugpowder>	local poker cash game min buyin is $100 or 2BTC.
Mar 17 19:58:21 <GoWest>	You're right, I don't know their volume numbers.
Mar 17 19:58:22 <Bugpowder>	heh
Mar 17 19:58:42 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i passed going to a shoot to be here with you all, so...
Mar 17 19:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	we all gotta make choices in this life!
Mar 17 20:00:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.004501 = 1.5754 BTC [-]
Mar 17 20:01:54 <GoWest>	assbot doesn't support BitFunder?
Mar 17 20:02:02 <benkay>	what shoot, mp?
Mar 17 20:02:10 <benkay>	and lord, on second thought, why?
Mar 17 20:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	benkay i think it was ggb
Mar 17 20:02:50 <benkay>	?
Mar 17 20:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	a girl, another girl and a boy.
Mar 17 20:03:04 <benkay>	ah
Mar 17 20:03:49 <benkay>	i had my first 4-way last wee
Mar 17 20:03:52 <benkay>	week
Mar 17 20:04:10 <benkay>	but i am stupid curious about your life, mp
Mar 17 20:04:10 <mircea_popescu>	didja have a designated photographer ? :D
Mar 17 20:04:19 <benkay>	no
Mar 17 20:04:28 <benkay>	there was a fifth wheel who limped off to bed though
Mar 17 20:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	you know, like most bar hopping has a designated driver
Mar 17 20:04:40 <Bugpowder>	bbbb?
Mar 17 20:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	evil bugbowder
Mar 17 20:04:58 <kakobrekla>	bitbetbitbet?
Mar 17 20:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	better bunghole business bureau
Mar 17 20:07:05 <benkay>	+1
Mar 17 20:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	which reminds me of maitre rabelais
Mar 17 20:11:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 20:15:22 <benkay>	mircae_popsescu, what's your background?
Mar 17 20:15:30 <kakobrekla>	white wall
Mar 17 20:16:08 <benkay>	"Set in a wasteland enclosed by a large white wall, the last survivor from a brutal child internment camp reluctantly takes on one final bounty hunting job to protect the idyllic life he has rebuilt."
Mar 17 20:16:55 <bgupta>	Jeez, anyone heard the news from Cyprus?
Mar 17 20:17:02 <kakobrekla>	yea
Mar 17 20:17:06 <kakobrekla>	old news by now
Mar 17 20:17:17 <benkay>	by innernet standards.
Mar 17 20:17:35 <benkay>	cubeworld won't figure it out until monday.
Mar 17 20:17:36 <kakobrekla>	internet is 10x real time
Mar 17 20:17:42 <kakobrekla>	and bitcoin is 10x internet
Mar 17 20:17:47 <dub>	that shit is sooo last minute
Mar 17 20:18:23 <benkay>	i wonder
Mar 17 20:18:28 <benkay>	if incompetence
Mar 17 20:18:38 <benkay>	or indecipherable ulterior motives
Mar 17 20:18:38 <bgupta>	wasn't sure, as it wasn't mentioned in channel.
Mar 17 20:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00074371 = 15.3204 BTC [+]
Mar 17 20:19:33 <benkay>	many things go unspoken here
Mar 17 20:19:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5596 @ 0.00074387 = 4.1627 BTC [+]
Mar 17 20:19:44 <dub>	bgupta: theres been a few references to getting cyprus'd or 'doing a cyprus'
Mar 17 20:19:51 <Bugpowder>	You mean the news that they are going with a 13.5/3.5% split now?
Mar 17 20:20:13 <bgupta>	Seems that the majority of Cyriot bank deposits are held by wealthy russians who use Cyprus as a convenient place to park money in the eurozone.
Mar 17 20:20:19 <mircea_popescu>	benkay : http://pastebin.com/4qxC6i8W
Mar 17 20:20:31 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta it's pretty bad. holiday today tho/
Mar 17 20:20:36 <Bugpowder>	no bailouts for oligarchs
Mar 17 20:20:41 <Bugpowder>	indefinite bank holiday
Mar 17 20:20:48 <Bugpowder>	they don't have the votes
Mar 17 20:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the thing is, the germans fucked up their eastern europe support by allying with the russians
Mar 17 20:20:59 <Bugpowder>	26+2 = 28, they need 29
Mar 17 20:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	(such as, the no visa thing, the romania schengen thingetc)
Mar 17 20:21:12 <mircea_popescu>	and now just fucked their future with russia on this move.
Mar 17 20:21:20 <mircea_popescu>	i've not seen more inept foreign policy since the bush days.
Mar 17 20:21:25 <Bugpowder>	Ah, I am not up to date on Romania EU unity politics
Mar 17 20:21:39 <Bugpowder>	I thought that was the netherlands or something
Mar 17 20:21:39 <benkay>	*popcorn*
Mar 17 20:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	well you can imagine how pissy the ukrainians were when the eu decided russians don't need visas
Mar 17 20:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	when russia doesn't even return the favour
Mar 17 20:21:56 <Bugpowder>	wha?
Mar 17 20:21:59 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 17 20:22:25 <Bugpowder>	Come prop up our real estate market?
Mar 17 20:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	haha nah, ima prop the serbian market if anything.
Mar 17 20:22:53 <mircea_popescu>	gotta love that country, told the us + the eu to fuck off and has the bombshells to prove it.
Mar 17 20:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	plus, you should see the sort of cunt walking on two feet over hilly belgrade.
Mar 17 20:23:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8604 @ 0.00074387 = 6.4003 BTC [+]
Mar 17 20:23:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.0007441 = 8.1851 BTC [+]
Mar 17 20:23:37 <mircea_popescu>	quite belle grade.
Mar 17 20:23:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7296 @ 0.00075195 = 5.4862 BTC [+]
Mar 17 20:24:31 <Bugpowder>	How many days will this holiday go on...  Time to buy Treasuries again
Mar 17 20:24:42 <Bugpowder>	Also, probably bitcoins
Mar 17 20:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder when the queen invented a holiday at the request of nixon
Mar 17 20:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	it went on for two weeks
Mar 17 20:24:55 <mircea_popescu>	a month seems possible in this case.
Mar 17 20:25:20 <Bugpowder>	If they really want to fuck russian oligarchs, just let the Cyprus banks blow
Mar 17 20:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	in any way cyprus banks are like utah glaciers.
Mar 17 20:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	russia will invade.
Mar 17 20:26:12 <Bugpowder>	bailout UK and EU people who have funds there
Mar 17 20:26:30 <mircea_popescu>	im telling you. if you imagine "russian oligarchs" are sepparate from the russian govt... you're nuts.
Mar 17 20:26:40 <mircea_popescu>	this is first line infiltration on their part, just like the chinese do in africa.
Mar 17 20:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	they will totally land on the island.
Mar 17 20:27:06 <Bugpowder>	zerohedge is having a field day with this shit.
Mar 17 20:27:06 <Bugpowder>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-17/russia-sending-permanent-warship-fleet-mediterranean-russian-naval-base-cyprus-comin
Mar 17 20:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	duh
Mar 17 20:33:23 <benkay>	i'm missing something
Mar 17 20:33:25 <benkay>	check this one
Mar 17 20:33:30 <benkay>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg5zig5-minztgSza1gSMAzm1g60za2gSMAzm2g180zxzi1gVolzi2gAccDist
Mar 17 20:33:37 <benkay>	big red volume bar implies sale, correct?
Mar 17 20:33:44 <benkay>	how does big sale lead to large price movement up?
Mar 17 20:35:08 <Bugpowder>	Say you have a wall of 5,000 ask at 47.50
Mar 17 20:35:30 <Bugpowder>	they finally get antsy, and pull the wall and sell all 5,000 as a market order
Mar 17 20:35:38 <Bugpowder>	price dips to 47.3
Mar 17 20:35:42 <Bugpowder>	but the wall is gone
Mar 17 20:36:11 <Bugpowder>	all the bids and asks between 47.3 and 47.5 are wiped out
Mar 17 20:36:36 <Bugpowder>	so if the next person that makes a trade wants to buy, the price goes up quickly above 47.5
Mar 17 20:36:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.888725 = 1.7775 BTC [-]
Mar 17 20:36:54 <benkay>	gotcha.
Mar 17 20:36:57 <benkay>	thank you, bug powder.
Mar 17 20:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	red bar just means price closed lower than opened really.
Mar 17 20:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	so did anyone receive their primeasic ?
Mar 17 20:37:24 <benkay>	on candlestick, right? true also for volume bar?
Mar 17 20:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	benkay should be yes.
Mar 17 20:37:52 <benkay>	that would only happen on a sale, though, correct?
Mar 17 20:38:03 <benkay>	as in filling buy orders
Mar 17 20:38:04 <mircea_popescu>	volume bar = candlestick bar for color
Mar 17 20:38:13 <mircea_popescu>	not really any relation, no.
Mar 17 20:38:55 <Bugpowder>	if there is a lot of liquidity and high volumes of trading, its more likely to happen on a sale
Mar 17 20:38:57 <Bugpowder>	BUT
Mar 17 20:39:34 <Bugpowder>	the bid and ask could also drift lower since the previous sale, in tandem, and then the next trade would be red regardless
Mar 17 20:39:45 <Bugpowder>	of if its a bid or ask getting hit
Mar 17 20:40:02 <benkay>	thanks. makes sense.
Mar 17 20:40:32 <benkay>	different question, do any traders on MPEx get priority in clearing orders?
Mar 17 20:40:33 <Bugpowder>	That is more common on MPEX than on MTGOX due to the greater number of trades
Mar 17 20:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	benkay no.
Mar 17 20:40:47 <Bugpowder>	benkay, those that use pympex
Mar 17 20:40:59 <Bugpowder>	have an easier time than those that cut and paste into the webpage
Mar 17 20:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	orders are processed as received
Mar 17 20:41:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 32 @ 0.105 = 3.36 BTC [+]
Mar 17 20:41:53 <benkay>	thanks. i've been reading macmillan and came across that artifact of bygone years.
Mar 17 20:42:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [+]
Mar 17 20:42:37 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 17 20:42:40 <Bugpowder>	bygone years?
Mar 17 20:42:45 <benkay>	well
Mar 17 20:42:46 <Bugpowder>	Goldman gets priorty
Mar 17 20:42:49 <benkay>	you know what i mean.
Mar 17 20:43:00 <Bugpowder>	frontrunning is rampant
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Mar 17 20:43:45 <Bugpowder>	in the us market, be it as a whisper to the trading desk, or as a router thats has lower latency to the trading engine
Mar 17 20:44:11 <Bugpowder>	Most of HFT is trying to frontrun
Mar 17 20:44:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.105 = 3.15 BTC [+]
Mar 17 20:44:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.10999 = 2.1998 BTC [+]
Mar 17 20:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/284/primeasic-has-a-miner/
Mar 17 20:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	apparently that guy was wrong.
Mar 17 20:45:47 <dub>	wait that shit is real?
Mar 17 20:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	what ?
Mar 17 20:46:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.2656 = 0.5312 BTC [-]
Mar 17 20:46:43 <dub>	primeasic
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Mar 17 20:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	well seeing how the bet resolved as no...
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Mar 17 20:47:31 <kakobrekla>	goes from about 16% gain to 3% at the end
Mar 17 20:47:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [-]
Mar 17 20:48:00 <kakobrekla>	right?
Mar 17 20:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Mar 17 20:48:23 <kakobrekla>	one can always argue that is not "fair enough"
Mar 17 20:48:33 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Mar 17 20:48:41 <kakobrekla>	but hey what can you do.
Mar 17 20:48:44 <mircea_popescu>	but as long as it's argued from both sides you know it's exactly fair
Mar 17 20:48:51 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 17 20:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/38/network-difficulty-under-12-million/
Mar 17 20:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	this is getting some volume too
Mar 17 20:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	basically, bitbet march is like jan + feb x5 or some shit
Mar 17 20:51:59 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 17 20:52:01 <kakobrekla>	thank you bfl
Mar 17 20:52:28 <Bugpowder>	what a crackhead https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1635957#msg1635957
Mar 17 20:52:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.105 = 0.63 BTC [-]
Mar 17 20:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 17 20:53:03 <Bugpowder>	"I'm thinking your 'NO' vote was probably a mistake,"
Mar 17 20:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	"Together let's avoid a mistakes such as yours"
Mar 17 20:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	this is why universal literacy is a bad idea.
Mar 17 20:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't make anyone any better, it just gives idiots more ways to manifest.
Mar 17 20:56:14 <Bugpowder>	how many of the 1000 shares are actually backed by silver, and not vaguely silver related 'investment vehicles' run by the least competent fund manager that does not yet have a scammer tag?
Mar 17 20:56:40 <kakobrekla>	another round of those would be needed yeah
Mar 17 20:56:55 <kakobrekla>	dunno it would make any diff anyway
Mar 17 20:57:05 <kakobrekla>	new will come
Mar 17 20:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder to quote some other muppet,
Mar 17 20:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	if you were a smart investor you'd know.
Mar 17 20:57:17 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 17 20:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	also, they're backed by his guitar
Mar 17 20:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	which he sold
Mar 17 20:57:57 <benkay>	hey i have a skateboard
Mar 17 20:58:00 <benkay>	i can has bitvestments?
Mar 17 20:58:04 <Bugpowder>	yes
Mar 17 20:58:06 <benkay>	wat about dog
Mar 17 20:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	sure/
Mar 17 20:58:10 <benkay>	can back securities with dog?
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Mar 17 20:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	you can have a dog on a skateboard hedge fund
Mar 17 20:58:32 <kakobrekla>	good logo idea
Mar 17 20:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	actually... from a strict nominalist perspective, "Dog on a Skateboard" ins't a bad name for a fund at all.
Mar 17 20:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	just as long as the person coming up with the name doesn't run it
Mar 17 20:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	if that person was someone else other than me i mean
Mar 17 20:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Mar 17 20:59:24 <benkay>	i am sorely tempted
Mar 17 20:59:34 <benkay>	but that would be a distraction from creating value
Mar 17 20:59:55 <Bugpowder>	ziggap is looking like it was a great investment
Mar 17 20:59:59 <pigeons>	not
Mar 17 21:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://goxgame.sytes.net/demo/
Mar 17 21:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	can anyone see that ?
Mar 17 21:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct ziggap
Mar 17 21:00:24 <assbot>	I thought I told you not to touch me.
Mar 17 21:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	sassy assy.
Mar 17 21:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	what's it trade under ?
Mar 17 21:00:48 <pigeons>	bitfunder
Mar 17 21:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	o i c
Mar 17 21:01:18 <mircea_popescu>	well... that's how far that went, im too lazy to go look
Mar 17 21:01:22 <pigeons>	delusional over-leveraged psycho fiat biz
Mar 17 21:01:31 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 17 21:01:32 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: no
Mar 17 21:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00074077 = 1.5927 BTC [-]
Mar 17 21:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9716 @ 0.0007371 = 7.1617 BTC [-]
Mar 17 21:02:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5833 @ 0.00072579 = 4.2335 BTC [-]
Mar 17 21:02:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10618 @ 0.00072578 = 7.7063 BTC [-]
Mar 17 21:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4449 @ 0.00072021 = 3.2042 BTC [-]
Mar 17 21:02:41 <benkay>	bitcoin community is like 5 nines of idiot followers
Mar 17 21:02:56 <benkay>	and the e-whatever of people who aren't are like "fuck leading these idiots"
Mar 17 21:03:08 <benkay>	"let's take their money"
Mar 17 21:03:29 <benkay>	and some miserably small fraction left over is like "you guise lets build awesome post fiat systems o wait nobody cares"
Mar 17 21:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	ya well... this is an artefact of the utter failure of english culture.
Mar 17 21:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	when you tell every imbecile that they're good as they are and valuable for existing
Mar 17 21:03:55 <benkay>	i thought that was a particular hallmark of american culture
Mar 17 21:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	all you can possibly get is a pointless mass of people only usefull for making salami
Mar 17 21:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	nah, the english speaking world is pretty much similarly stupid.
Mar 17 21:04:42 <benkay>	what parts of the world don't suck in this way?
Mar 17 21:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	be it the us or the commonwealth, this fundamental error of thinking that you are born human rather than become human.
Mar 17 21:05:39 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much all its enemies. the arabs, for instance. the russians, for another instance.
Mar 17 21:05:42 <pigeons>	dogs are traditionaly very poor skateboarderes
Mar 17 21:05:46 <mircea_popescu>	the chinese, whatever.
Mar 17 21:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno much about azn
Mar 17 21:06:09 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0
Mar 17 21:06:35 <kakobrekla>	prolly better than usagi this one.
Mar 17 21:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	youtube is such a piece of shit. that link above ? "must have flash". however http://www.youtube.com/embed/CQzUsTFqtW0 works
Mar 17 21:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	whoa kickass dog :D
Mar 17 21:08:17 <benkay>	they're relatively easy to motivate
Mar 17 21:08:25 <benkay>	i considered training dogs as a hobby
Mar 17 21:08:33 <benkay>	heh
Mar 17 21:08:43 <benkay>	read the way i wrote it, i consider things as a hobby
Mar 17 21:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	i had dogs and went hunting  a while back
Mar 17 21:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	kinda too lazy for it by now
Mar 17 21:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	prolly a good thing to do when im old  i guess
Mar 17 21:10:34 <jborkl>	tu.silver having a problem?,no fucking way.the world is ending on that news
Mar 17 21:11:05 <BitHub>	what's the problem?
Mar 17 21:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	not really a problem, we were just poking fun at the usagi character
Mar 17 21:11:36 <BitHub>	ahh
Mar 17 21:11:47 <BitHub>	i thought something happened to tu.silver
Mar 17 21:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Mar 17 21:12:09 <jborkl>	usagi fund losing value? nothing that earth shattering since glbse
Mar 17 21:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	nothing has and conceivably nothing will. at all.
Mar 17 21:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	ever.
Mar 17 21:12:24 <BitHub>	lulz kk
Mar 17 21:12:27 <kakobrekla>	!l glbse cpa
Mar 17 21:12:27 <assbot>	Last trade for CPA on GLBSE was at 0.014 BTC [-]
Mar 17 21:12:32 <kakobrekla>	ha.
Mar 17 21:12:40 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla any way to get a timestamp "?
Mar 17 21:12:52 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 17 21:13:01 <kakobrekla>	from my old logs on the other hdd
Mar 17 21:13:03 <kakobrekla>	which is offline
Mar 17 21:13:06 <kakobrekla>	:p
Mar 17 21:13:16 <jborkl>	30d volume 1
Mar 17 21:13:36 <kakobrekla>	but mircea_popescu must be around date glbse closed
Mar 17 21:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 17 21:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	oct what, 5th ?
Mar 17 21:13:59 <kakobrekla>	dunno is it 2013 already?
Mar 17 21:14:01 <jborkl>	sounds right
Mar 17 21:14:35 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150392.msg1635784#msg1635784
Mar 17 21:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	the girl back on the horse.
Mar 17 21:15:09 <dub>	18-07-12-20:49<assbot> [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.1013 BTC
Mar 17 21:15:21 <kakobrekla>	:o
Mar 17 21:15:37 <kakobrekla>	but that is wrong
Mar 17 21:15:39 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Mar 17 21:15:42 <kakobrekla>	10 times wrong
Mar 17 21:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	wait wut ?
Mar 17 21:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	so it went from .1 to .01 in three mionths ?!
Mar 17 21:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	what is this, usagi ?
Mar 17 21:16:06 <kakobrekla>	ah yeah the date
Mar 17 21:16:10 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 17 21:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	o wait. it WAS usagi
Mar 17 21:16:23 <mircea_popescu>	bwahahaha o gawd have mercy
Mar 17 21:16:33 <kakobrekla>	ya ofc is usagi
Mar 17 21:16:39 <kakobrekla>	did you think i was OT?
Mar 17 21:16:41 <kakobrekla>	silly.
Mar 17 21:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla yes lol. i recall him doing nyan-whatever
Mar 17 21:17:05 <kakobrekla>	yea
Mar 17 21:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	dude people were giving Diablo-D3 a real hard time, but there's better examples of glbse-ness
Mar 17 21:17:42 <kakobrekla>	!l glbse dmc
Mar 17 21:17:43 <assbot>	Last trade for DMC on GLBSE was at 0.0666 BTC [-]
Mar 17 21:17:46 <kakobrekla>	ahahah
Mar 17 21:17:48 <Diablo-D3>	HAH
Mar 17 21:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	beastly.
Mar 17 21:17:58 <Diablo-D3>	thats awesome
Mar 17 21:18:06 <kakobrekla>	doomed you mean?
Mar 17 21:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	doomewsome
Mar 17 21:18:16 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: not at all, price is heading back up
Mar 17 21:18:26 <kakobrekla>	yeah you can hardly go below 0
Mar 17 21:18:27 <Diablo-D3>	people are finally realizing I was right all along
Mar 17 21:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct dmc
Mar 17 21:18:32 <assbot>	Your actions are useless.
Mar 17 21:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	^
Mar 17 21:19:07 <dub>	fuckin skynet right thar
Mar 17 21:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	let me guess, dmc is listed on bf too ?
Mar 17 21:19:26 <pigeons>	yep
Mar 17 21:20:22 <pigeons>	and no goxgame times out for me
Mar 17 21:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	im starting to emerge a seeing pattern here
Mar 17 21:20:34 <kakobrekla>	:o
Mar 17 21:20:43 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons me too. it's some sort of i dunno what play daytrading puppet made
Mar 17 21:21:30 <Bugpowder>	any news on coinlab?
Mar 17 21:21:36 <Bugpowder>	did the beta ever start?
Mar 17 21:21:43 <Bugpowder>	I signed up immediately
Mar 17 21:21:46 <Bugpowder>	no response
Mar 17 21:21:54 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: whats wrong with bf?
Mar 17 21:21:58 <Bugpowder>	my mtgox withdrawl is maxed for the month
Mar 17 21:22:20 <Bugpowder>	just waiting for the rest of the funds to disappear into a coinlab clusterfuck
Mar 17 21:23:32 <dub>	has gox sent any comms around this?
Mar 17 21:23:43 <Diablo-D3>	what happened to gox?
Mar 17 21:23:52 <dub>	I haven't seen an email or notification on teh site
Mar 17 21:24:30 <benkay>	gox sold their us order book to a new york company, diablo-d3
Mar 17 21:24:32 <pigeons>	Diablo-D3: gox won't serve us/canada
Mar 17 21:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i don't get the tickering
Mar 17 21:24:41 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: ahh
Mar 17 21:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder sucks. why;d you go so deep into gox ?
Mar 17 21:24:55 <Diablo-D3>	benkay: glad I pulled out of mtgox then
Mar 17 21:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	you knew they're dubious.
Mar 17 21:25:25 <dub>	so they are dropping USD and CAD?
Mar 17 21:25:25 <Bugpowder>	What was stupid was that I got verified, but didn't choose 50k as my max limit
Mar 17 21:25:27 <pigeons>	i just donated my balance to them i can't satisfy their id requirements despite being well under limits
Mar 17 21:25:42 <Bugpowder>	because I thought I'd never need it
Mar 17 21:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons what do you mean can't ?
Mar 17 21:25:49 <Bugpowder>	then bitcoins went to $50
Mar 17 21:25:53 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: they will hold your ENTIRE balance if you dont ID on request
Mar 17 21:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder at least it wasn't 64k
Mar 17 21:25:55 <Diablo-D3>	and never send it back
Mar 17 21:26:00 <pigeons>	i mean i dont have prood of residency
Mar 17 21:26:00 <benkay>	here's a crazy question
Mar 17 21:26:04 <pigeons>	cause im homeless
Mar 17 21:26:05 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Mar 17 21:26:06 <assbot>	I thought I told you not to touch me.
Mar 17 21:26:07 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 17 21:26:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.46030, Best ask: 47.68000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21970, Last trade: 47.46029, 24 hour volume: 16140.79342397, 24 hour low: 46.80000, 24 hour high: 47.74700, 24 hour vwap: 47.43876
Mar 17 21:26:12 <pigeons>	i live in a van down by the river
Mar 17 21:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Mar 17 21:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck is "proof of residency"
Mar 17 21:26:33 <Bugpowder>	Utility bill
Mar 17 21:26:35 <pigeons>	utility bills from a rescidnce
Mar 17 21:26:38 <benkay>	is it possible to perform a 51% attack and change the number of bitcoins that will ever be in circulation?
Mar 17 21:26:43 <Bugpowder>	addressed to your ID address
Mar 17 21:26:46 <mircea_popescu>	benkay no.
Mar 17 21:26:52 <benkay>	how no?
Mar 17 21:26:56 <pigeons>	i have plenty of addresses but they all have utilities included in the payments
Mar 17 21:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons ^
Mar 17 21:27:09 <Diablo-D3>	benkay: because bitcoins are only generated with gen tx
Mar 17 21:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	that exactly. wtf already.
Mar 17 21:27:20 <benkay>	hey!
Mar 17 21:27:20 <Diablo-D3>	and block depth sets the rewards for those
Mar 17 21:27:50 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: so what about a bank statement
Mar 17 21:28:12 <pigeons>	nope you need that too, but you also need a utility bill, and not one i pay for the office, for a residence
Mar 17 21:28:28 <mircea_popescu>	i seriously can't believe the sort of shit people in the united soviets have to put up with.
Mar 17 21:28:29 <Diablo-D3>	so tell him everything is included in the rent and he must comply with US Federal law
Mar 17 21:28:33 <pigeons>	and your supposed to only need those when you hit certain limits, except when you don't
Mar 17 21:28:50 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well that isn't it, he's pulling out of the US because people are pressuring him to comply with the law
Mar 17 21:28:50 <pigeons>	fuck it i dont care i just havent used them since, about a year now
Mar 17 21:28:54 <Bugpowder>	Round 2 "There's really no reason to vote NO on any of my securities."
Mar 17 21:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i sold like 100 btc on bitcoin-central.
Mar 17 21:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	i needed an id and a bank account.
Mar 17 21:29:09 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133168.40
Mar 17 21:29:17 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: thats all they're required to ask for
Mar 17 21:29:28 <pigeons>	i treid to get my funds out again recently when i heard about coinlab, but same issue
Mar 17 21:29:33 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: unless there is a federal investigation and the bank is proxying for it, they cant ask you for anything else
Mar 17 21:29:39 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: and thats per the PATRIOT act
Mar 17 21:29:40 <pigeons>	well, they do
Mar 17 21:29:53 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: yes, because mtgox is not a bank
Mar 17 21:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 this is yurp based tho
Mar 17 21:29:57 <Diablo-D3>	and does not have any lawyers
Mar 17 21:30:02 <pigeons>	that's the main reason the fake utility bills are sold on silk road
Mar 17 21:30:09 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: doesnt matter. us customers, us currency, they must comply with the law
Mar 17 21:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i was thinking, how hard can it be to fake one
Mar 17 21:30:17 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: this is why hes pulling out
Mar 17 21:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 yes, this is exactly the point. us citizens are becoming the underserved inhabitants of a financial ghetto.
Mar 17 21:31:03 <pigeons>	yeah woulod seem a lot of work to call each utility company and verify you didnt just change the name and address or date from an old one
Mar 17 21:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	it's a sad state of affairs
Mar 17 21:31:15 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yes, and this is why we invented bitcoin in the first place
Mar 17 21:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons except utility corp is not allowed to answer.
Mar 17 21:31:29 <Diablo-D3>	what everyone should do is just blacklist mtgox and label all mtgox employees with scammer tags on the forums
Mar 17 21:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 well... the one positive step forward is if we could move off the mtgox-based usd price to a community fixing price.
Mar 17 21:32:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well, I dont get why the fuck we're even measuring in USD
Mar 17 21:32:15 <BitHub>	:)
Mar 17 21:32:24 <Diablo-D3>	we should be measuring it in ounces of gold.
Mar 17 21:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	cause the euro is about to implode
Mar 17 21:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	and you gotta measure it in some sort of slave scrip
Mar 17 21:32:43 <Diablo-D3>	no you dont
Mar 17 21:32:48 <Diablo-D3>	I want it measured in ounces of gold.
Mar 17 21:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	for as long as you intend to allow scripslaves to get on the wagon
Mar 17 21:32:53 <Diablo-D3>	and nothing but.
Mar 17 21:32:55 <BitHub>	why?
Mar 17 21:32:59 <pigeons>	i imagine people will still want to trade usd for bitcoins after coinlab, but i doubt they will use coinlab long
Mar 17 21:33:00 <mircea_popescu>	well the nothing butt part might be difficult.
Mar 17 21:33:01 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: because gold is real
Mar 17 21:33:01 <BitHub>	do you only have gold?
Mar 17 21:33:02 <Diablo-D3>	usd isnt
Mar 17 21:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	dude it's so complicated to pay in gold.
Mar 17 21:33:23 <Diablo-D3>	i can hold gold in my hand, I can't hold usd in my hand, I get some fictional make believe piece of paper instead
Mar 17 21:33:28 <BitHub>	going to the store and buying stuff with cash is more real than buying it with gold
Mar 17 21:33:44 <Diablo-D3>	the government can devalue your USD at any time
Mar 17 21:33:46 <kakobrekla>	interesting that same thing is being discussed for the fifth time in like a week.
Mar 17 21:33:47 <Diablo-D3>	its fictional and worthless
Mar 17 21:33:54 <Diablo-D3>	its not even good as toliet paper, I've tried
Mar 17 21:33:59 <BitHub>	oh you mean by like doing a forking?
Mar 17 21:34:01 <BitHub>	like that?
Mar 17 21:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	ima go make myself a dessert.
Mar 17 21:34:25 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: what, really?
Mar 17 21:34:32 <BitHub>	the dev's, mtgox can devalue bitcoin at any time
Mar 17 21:34:36 <pigeons>	im gonna try that toliet paper trick
Mar 17 21:34:46 <tiberiusiv>	the euro is not going to implode
Mar 17 21:34:56 <vampireb>	banks can asky for anythign they want
Mar 17 21:34:56 <kakobrekla>	well not the gold part cause that is stupid
Mar 17 21:34:58 <vampireb>	they're private
Mar 17 21:35:00 <kakobrekla>	but the other parts.
Mar 17 21:35:04 <BitHub>	i was reading that the price on mtgox was suppose to crash once but mtgox halted and it and ignored it trying to avoid a meltdown
Mar 17 21:35:08 <BitHub>	talk about manipulation
Mar 17 21:35:16 <pigeons>	citation needed
Mar 17 21:35:23 <BitHub>	give me few mins
Mar 17 21:35:34 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, thats why I pulled my btc out
Mar 17 21:35:39 <Diablo-D3>	I was going to sell more soon as we went past $50
Mar 17 21:35:41 <Diablo-D3>	but fuck it
Mar 17 21:35:42 <tiberiusiv>	bithub: too bad there is 4-5 other exchangs to reference price
Mar 17 21:35:51 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 17 21:35:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.45136, Best ask: 47.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29864, Last trade: 47.75000, 24 hour volume: 16460.01280008, 24 hour low: 46.80000, 24 hour high: 47.75000, 24 hour vwap: 47.44219
Mar 17 21:35:54 <Bugpowder>	Let's not confuse "mtgox's trading engine blows" with "mtgox is propping up the price by slowing orders"
Mar 17 21:35:58 <Diablo-D3>	nanotube owns gribble right?
Mar 17 21:36:13 <Bugpowder>	He is user #1
Mar 17 21:36:29 <Diablo-D3>	I think gribble needs to pull best bid and ask from all exchanges
Mar 17 21:36:40 <Diablo-D3>	and the same with the rest of the numbers
Mar 17 21:36:49 <pigeons>	well it isnt apples to apples
Mar 17 21:36:51 <BitHub>	averages
Mar 17 21:36:56 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: no, best of
Mar 17 21:36:58 <pigeons>	goxusd is not the same as btce usd
Mar 17 21:37:05 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: yes, but it can be
Mar 17 21:37:06 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Mar 17 21:37:09 <Bugpowder>	no
Mar 17 21:37:21 <Diablo-D3>	I can pull btc out of mtgox and then put it in btce and make the transaction
Mar 17 21:37:22 <Bugpowder>	MPOE has a different risk profile than S.DICE
Mar 17 21:37:38 <Bugpowder>	BTCe has a different risk profile than MTgox
Mar 17 21:37:54 <jborkl>	well,my asshole was going to implode once ,but my stomach stopped it.my asshole said thanks that was going to be bad for evveryone
Mar 17 21:37:56 <BitHub>	we need like a temple, and sacrifice a virgin every morning and ask the Satoshi Gods to name their price for the day
Mar 17 21:37:57 <Bugpowder>	Is a dollar at bitfloor = a dollar at mtgox?
Mar 17 21:38:00 <vampireb>	BTCe is in Russia. so yea it's different
Mar 17 21:38:10 <vampireb>	bitfloor is in NY
Mar 17 21:38:11 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: well, Im seriously considering starting a religion
Mar 17 21:38:14 <vampireb>	Mtgox is in Japan
Mar 17 21:38:21 <vampireb>	3 different profiles completely
Mar 17 21:38:31 <pigeons>	a bird in the hand is worth 2 in your bush
Mar 17 21:38:34 <Diablo-D3>	vampireb: all I'm hearing is "trust no exchange"
Mar 17 21:38:39 <vampireb>	correct.
Mar 17 21:38:47 <vampireb>	i dont trust anyone
Mar 17 21:38:50 <BitHub>	i'm doing a bitcoin political party and religion under the same branch
Mar 17 21:38:53 <BitHub>	all sides covered
Mar 17 21:39:02 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: religion and politics should never mix
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Mar 17 21:39:15 <BitHub>	they mix well when acting as a sheild or bucket
Mar 17 21:39:37 <BitHub>	it makes sense to mix the two together
Mar 17 21:39:39 <tiberiusiv>	low trading volume for a few days already
Mar 17 21:41:53 <Bugpowder>	who wants to deposit into mtgox when on Mar 22nd you can deposit to coinlab....
Mar 17 21:41:57 <Bugpowder>	or on the 31st
Mar 17 21:42:03 <Bugpowder>	or sometime in the vague future
Mar 17 21:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.54 = 1.08 BTC [-]
Mar 17 21:48:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8885 = 8.885 BTC [-]
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Mar 17 21:49:04 <BitHub>	deposit into coinlab and face never ending problems
Mar 17 21:49:19 <BitHub>	once coinlab is done bending you over, hello irs
Mar 17 21:50:01 <Bugpowder>	Gox is the same
Mar 17 21:50:11 <Bugpowder>	IRS is gonna get their share
Mar 17 21:50:23 <benkay>	btc is not for the us
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Mar 17 21:50:29 <benkay>	it's for the rest of the world
Mar 17 21:50:29 <Bugpowder>	ALthough I will forcefully argue that it should be considered a longterm capital gain
Mar 17 21:50:37 <benkay>	poor silicon valley entrepreneurs don't get it
Mar 17 21:50:40 <Bugpowder>	rather than collectable.
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Mar 17 21:51:05 <benkay>	although ten years from now this country will be all "wtf bitcoins? i thought that was a scam…"
Mar 17 21:51:09 <smickles>	no mpoebot?
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Mar 17 21:51:18 <usagi>	hi.
Mar 17 21:51:25 <benkay>	*popcorn*
Mar 17 21:51:30 <usagi>	Well since you asked.
Mar 17 21:51:45 <usagi>	Naruto + Sailormoon + Ichigo 100% = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IgzriAnIs&list=PLuoiC5VYUyQSEGuXNwmj16NvtFt6P3EbJ
Mar 17 21:51:54 <kakobrekla>	benkay imma gonna start charging for that, cause of all the cleaning up i have to do afterwards.
Mar 17 21:52:07 <benkay>	hey dude
Mar 17 21:52:13 <benkay>	i paid for my ticket
Mar 17 21:52:26 <benkay>	serfs are supposed to be gratis
Mar 17 21:52:56 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 17 21:53:14 <smickles>	usagi: hiya :)
Mar 17 21:54:06 <Bugpowder>	usagi, I think you are needed in Cyprus for this confiscation vote
Mar 17 21:54:24 <pigeons>	good news usagi, silver down
Mar 17 21:55:16 <Bugpowder>	Just tell the people "I'm thinking your 'NO' vote was probably a mistake"
Mar 17 21:55:46 <usagi>	pigeons: Down on open? My data shows Bid/Ask 	28.77 		28.88
Mar 17 21:55:46 <usagi>	Low/High 	28.54 		29.24
Mar 17 21:55:46 <usagi>	Change 	+0.00 		+0.00%
Mar 17 21:56:07 <Bugpowder>	silver popped, is fading now
Mar 17 21:56:15 <pigeons>	aww sorry
Mar 17 21:56:22 <Bugpowder>	but yeah, cyprus is presumably bullish for silver
Mar 17 21:56:23 <usagi>	Bugpowder: Aye, my favorite bit was when someone voted NO on BMF and said there was no asset list lol
Mar 17 21:58:06 <kakobrekla>	;l glbse bmf
Mar 17 21:58:16 <kakobrekla>	!l glbse bmf
Mar 17 21:58:16 <assbot>	Last trade for BMF on GLBSE was at 0.45999999 BTC [+]
Mar 17 21:59:36 <mircea_popescu>	anyone here know what urda is ?
Mar 17 22:00:08 <kakobrekla>	Urdă is a Romanian fresh white cheese made by reprocessing the whey drained from cheeses such as caş or telemea.
Mar 17 22:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	<pigeons> citation needed << he prolly means the hack 1 cent per btc episode mid 2011
Mar 17 22:00:52 <pigeons>	o
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Mar 17 22:02:03 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla it's not really made out of whey, but it is the queen of soft sweet cheeses
Mar 17 22:04:32 <usagi>	!l glbse COGNITIVE
Mar 17 22:04:32 <assbot>	Last trade for COGNITIVE on GLBSE was at 0.575 BTC [-]
Mar 17 22:06:27 <usagi>	Wow... http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/16/news/economy/europe-cyprus-bailout/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Mar 17 22:06:29 <usagi>	You're right
Mar 17 22:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11863 @ 0.00072006 = 8.5421 BTC [-]
Mar 17 22:08:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8884 = 2.6652 BTC [-]
Mar 17 22:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... btc deposited at mpex public address over 100k.
Mar 17 22:10:05 <Bugpowder>	Congrats!
Mar 17 22:10:35 <Namworld>	I thought it already went over that before.
Mar 17 22:11:00 <Bugpowder>	Time Between Blocks	6.79 (minutes)
Mar 17 22:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld possibly you're  thinking total inbound
Mar 17 22:11:21 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: You mean 100k TOTAL CURRENT DEPOSITS?!?
Mar 17 22:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder no i mean, just 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx excluding 1JPvucRfu3ZzEvfBUQTJwsxMrZjeTqD6zR etc
Mar 17 22:12:15 <Bugpowder>	oh ok
Mar 17 22:12:26 <Bugpowder>	cause if you control more than 100k BTC
Mar 17 22:12:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 17 22:12:33 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226473 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1334 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 1 minute, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6149093.71363 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.84697
Mar 17 22:12:34 <Bugpowder>	starting to get risky
Mar 17 22:12:39 <Bugpowder>	you could run
Mar 17 22:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	i control way more than 100k lol
Mar 17 22:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	and have, for a while.
Mar 17 22:12:59 <Bugpowder>	LIQUID?
Mar 17 22:13:02 <Bugpowder>	not S.MPOE
Mar 17 22:13:02 <smickles>	Bugpowder: he prolly won't run so long as btc < s.mpoe value
Mar 17 22:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	yes liquid.
Mar 17 22:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	what, you thought im destitute ?
Mar 17 22:13:14 <Bugpowder>	no
Mar 17 22:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	not opm's tho. my own.
Mar 17 22:13:33 <Bugpowder>	I thought you had ~ $5MM and 50-100k BTC
Mar 17 22:13:57 <Bugpowder>	just an educated guess
Mar 17 22:13:58 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: do we have a bitcoin lawyer yet?
Mar 17 22:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 depends on who's whe
Mar 17 22:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	we*
Mar 17 22:14:11 <smickles>	'MM' == 'Mega Millions!!!'
Mar 17 22:14:13 <Diablo-D3>	the community
Mar 17 22:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	that i dunno
Mar 17 22:14:25 <Diablo-D3>	damn
Mar 17 22:14:28 <Bugpowder>	I think giga is providing one
Mar 17 22:14:33 <Bugpowder>	for the community
Mar 17 22:14:34 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: I dont mean for that
Mar 17 22:14:42 <Diablo-D3>	someone whos good at business law and shit
Mar 17 22:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	there was a guy on the forum a year bacl
Mar 17 22:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	but in general lawyers are on private retainers.
Mar 17 22:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	the community can't afford it.
Mar 17 22:15:06 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: which is expensive. meh.
Mar 17 22:15:39 <Bugpowder>	A decent associate is around $300 / hr
Mar 17 22:15:41 <Diablo-D3>	like, if I want to issue those corporate bonds, I'm going to need a lawyer
Mar 17 22:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	like, totally.
Mar 17 22:15:52 <Bugpowder>	that's transactional shit dude
Mar 17 22:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	prepare yourself for 50k downpayment.
Mar 17 22:16:01 <smickles>	;;calc 31/1.05
Mar 17 22:16:02 <gribble>	29.5238095238
Mar 17 22:16:10 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah =/
Mar 17 22:16:14 <Diablo-D3>	thats more money thav I have
Mar 17 22:16:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00071767 = 3.2295 BTC [-]
Mar 17 22:16:20 <Bugpowder>	you could get by with a lower level of lawyer then
Mar 17 22:16:29 <Bugpowder>	someone who is making $60k / year
Mar 17 22:16:35 <smickles>	;;calc 31/1.014
Mar 17 22:16:35 <gribble>	30.5719921105
Mar 17 22:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the problem is that in a field like "i wanna issue btc bonds" the opinion of a lawyer that makes 60k a month
Mar 17 22:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	is no different from the oppinion of the bus driver
Mar 17 22:17:11 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: the point if they're btc or not doesn't matter
Mar 17 22:17:23 <Bugpowder>	http://lawfirmsuccess.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/so-called-second-tier-lawyers-relish-new-options/
Mar 17 22:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 here's a tip : if you live in a smallish town see who your town used to advise on their bonds
Mar 17 22:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	(which is public info)
Mar 17 22:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	and go by their offices dressed nicely and being polite and ask
Mar 17 22:17:54 <Bugpowder>	You can get people that know how to do paperwork for you for cheap
Mar 17 22:17:56 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: how would I find that out?
Mar 17 22:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 it's published somewhere, but you'll have to go digging
Mar 17 22:18:33 <Bugpowder>	http://www.legalzoom.com
Mar 17 22:18:34 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: why do you think my town issued bonds anyhow?
Mar 17 22:18:40 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: fuck legalzoom, that shit is a scam
Mar 17 22:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	cause i doubt any town didn't
Mar 17 22:18:44 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 17 22:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	what ?!
Mar 17 22:18:59 <mircea_popescu>	when did legalzoom become a scam ?
Mar 17 22:18:59 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: my town is old enough that it was here before 1776
Mar 17 22:19:11 <Diablo-D3>	legalzoom is in trouble in multiple states
Mar 17 22:19:25 <smickles>	no need for legal zoom to be a scam, there's a big market for that service
Mar 17 22:19:31 <Bugpowder>	Diablo-D3: have they ever finanaced any infrastructure improvements?
Mar 17 22:19:35 <Diablo-D3>	iirc for practicing law in those states without having a lawyer from those states on staff
Mar 17 22:19:36 <Bugpowder>	probably yes
Mar 17 22:19:43 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: dont think so
Mar 17 22:19:45 <Diablo-D3>	I wish they would
Mar 17 22:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	get out, what town is this, potato idaho ?
Mar 17 22:20:09 <smickles>	xyz, mass.
Mar 17 22:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	they had bonds.
Mar 17 22:20:17 <Diablo-D3>	and like, the high school they built like 15 years ago was all done with federal grants
Mar 17 22:20:30 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but who buys the bonds? where does the city's income come from?
Mar 17 22:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	taxes
Mar 17 22:20:39 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: you're describing the typical american town
Mar 17 22:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	and usually pension funds buy some sort of derivative off the bonds
Mar 17 22:20:50 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: town doesnt collect taxes though
Mar 17 22:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	banks hold them and do the packaging/slicing
Mar 17 22:21:18 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: well, I'm trying to figure out how much its going to cost to get this shit off the ground
Mar 17 22:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's a town witout revenue ? how does it pay fo the mayor/town administrator
Mar 17 22:21:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [-]
Mar 17 22:21:39 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I dunno, how DO towns collect taxes?
Mar 17 22:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	usually you pay for water and sewage
Mar 17 22:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	often enough there's a tax on power distribution
Mar 17 22:22:00 <Diablo-D3>	ahh, I dont pay for either of those
Mar 17 22:22:05 <smickles>	some with local sales tax
Mar 17 22:22:10 <Diablo-D3>	and Im not taxed directly for power, so its on my bill somewhere
Mar 17 22:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	they get income from cell companies towers, from billboards on town limits
Mar 17 22:22:11 <smickles>	some with local property tax
Mar 17 22:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	from various fines
Mar 17 22:22:13 <Diablo-D3>	and we dont have local sales tax
Mar 17 22:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	it's a list
Mar 17 22:22:24 <Diablo-D3>	and I dont think we have local property tax either
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Mar 17 22:22:39 <smickles>	yeah, local fines, police quotas
Mar 17 22:22:55 <Diablo-D3>	heh, we have like 6 cops
Mar 17 22:23:09 <Diablo-D3>	they couldnt quota if they tried
Mar 17 22:23:19 <Diablo-D3>	nothing happens in this town
Mar 17 22:23:20 <Diablo-D3>	ever
Mar 17 22:23:34 <Diablo-D3>	like, it was big news a few years back some dickhead graffitied on the side of a building
Mar 17 22:23:36 <mircea_popescu>	well... if the yearly budget is like 10mn or somesuch maybe they never issued paper
Mar 17 22:23:38 <Diablo-D3>	thats never happened before
Mar 17 22:24:01 <tiberiusiv>	dont you pay property taxes diablo?
Mar 17 22:24:07 <Diablo-D3>	tiberiusiv: I dont own property
Mar 17 22:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	he sublets from pigeons
Mar 17 22:24:16 <tiberiusiv>	your landlord
Mar 17 22:24:21 <Diablo-D3>	but Im pretty sure the only property taxes we pay is to the state
Mar 17 22:24:33 <tiberiusiv>	no you are wrong
Mar 17 22:24:40 <Diablo-D3>	dude, do you live here?
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Mar 17 22:24:55 <tiberiusiv>	ive lived in a bunch of US states
Mar 17 22:24:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/graphics/08_22_10_property_tax/
Mar 17 22:24:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.0007144 = 3.6434 BTC [-]
Mar 17 22:24:58 <mircea_popescu>	look it up there.
Mar 17 22:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	the state doesn't do property taxes, they're a local concern.
Mar 17 22:25:06 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I live in maine lol.
Mar 17 22:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	ah
Mar 17 22:25:24 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: but yeah, basically, I wanna do DMC legit.
Mar 17 22:25:49 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: all the paperwork, all the is dotted and ts crossed
Mar 17 22:26:05 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: mircea_popescu thinks I'll spend like $50k
Mar 17 22:26:07 <tiberiusiv>	whats DMC?
Mar 17 22:26:19 <kakobrekla>	!l glbse dmc
Mar 17 22:26:19 <assbot>	Last trade for DMC on GLBSE was at 0.0666 BTC [-]
Mar 17 22:26:21 <Diablo-D3>	tiberiusiv: an uncompany.
Mar 17 22:26:42 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: for the 'green' dc/mining op, i could see 50k in organizational expenses
Mar 17 22:26:43 <tiberiusiv>	what are you trying to do
Mar 17 22:26:54 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: you know whats ironic? we're now paying more dividends than we ever did on glbse
Mar 17 22:27:04 <Diablo-D3>	tiberiusiv: long story.
Mar 17 22:27:09 <kakobrekla>	ironic? thats what alanis thought.
Mar 17 22:27:11 <kakobrekla>	it just sad.
Mar 17 22:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder http://legalzoomfraud.blogspot.ro/2008/05/use-of-forms-leads-to-litigation.html that one's cute
Mar 17 22:28:03 <smickles>	if you have the time to research tings yourself, sites like legalzoom just seem silly
Mar 17 22:28:27 <Bugpowder>	that site looks legit
Mar 17 22:28:30 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, I think legalzoom really is a scam
Mar 17 22:28:32 <mircea_popescu>	smickles basically some guy made a trust, but didn't properly account for revocation
Mar 17 22:28:36 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: it looks TOO legit
Mar 17 22:28:38 <mircea_popescu>	his wife died, he couldn't revoke the trust
Mar 17 22:28:38 <Diablo-D3>	thats the problem
Mar 17 22:29:39 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 for people with a clue, which mostly means 10 years as a paralegal and up, it's a useful shortcut
Mar 17 22:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	everyone else has not much business there other than for entertainment purposes.
Mar 17 22:29:57 <Diablo-D3>	meh I wish people I knew in high school wernt all potheads or drunks
Mar 17 22:30:06 <Diablo-D3>	you'd think ONE of them would have become a lawyer
Mar 17 22:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	this is why parents strive to take kids to good school districts.
Mar 17 22:30:29 <Diablo-D3>	I'd be like "remember that one time I saved you from that bully?"
Mar 17 22:30:41 <kakobrekla>	hed be like "no"
Mar 17 22:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	the question of course becomes why arent YOU a lawyer
Mar 17 22:30:54 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: because law doesn't interest me that way
Mar 17 22:30:57 <tiberiusiv>	he was one of the pothead or drunks
Mar 17 22:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	you could now provide free expert advice to all the potheads who saved you from each other.
Mar 17 22:31:01 <Bugpowder>	also there is a lot disciplines
Mar 17 22:31:02 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 17 22:31:05 <Diablo-D3>	tiberiusiv: I neither smoke nor drink.
Mar 17 22:31:15 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: ha ha, I never needed saving.
Mar 17 22:31:17 <Bugpowder>	you need a corporate law transactional lawyer
Mar 17 22:31:31 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder he's married to the wrong girl isnt he.
Mar 17 22:31:33 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I was the tallest kid in my grade until my junior year
Mar 17 22:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	iwas the tallest guy in my grade all through college.
Mar 17 22:31:55 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, so you know what its like then
Mar 17 22:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	it's pretty cool.
Mar 17 22:32:01 <Bugpowder>	Basically everyone is but me
Mar 17 22:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder lol.
Mar 17 22:32:18 <Diablo-D3>	it was usually kids from my class picking on kids from the class under us
Mar 17 22:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	yes yes, i'm envious. choke on it!!1
Mar 17 22:32:41 <Diablo-D3>	somehow I became the good guy. not sure what went wrong there.
Mar 17 22:32:44 <Bugpowder>	Diablo-D3: Why not go to your state's bar association website and use their legal referral service to find a local laywer that specializes in your field of question
Mar 17 22:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	then send some people to beat him up, come by and save him
Mar 17 22:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	for 20 bucks worth of pot you've got yourself a friend.
Mar 17 22:33:19 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: lol
Mar 17 22:33:22 <Diablo-D3>	you think people here buy pot?
Mar 17 22:33:24 <Diablo-D3>	fuck no
Mar 17 22:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	meth, whatever.
Mar 17 22:33:33 <Diablo-D3>	everyone has an attic or basement, and its full of growlights
Mar 17 22:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	you just said they're potheads
Mar 17 22:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	o srsly ?
Mar 17 22:33:48 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, its fucking maine
Mar 17 22:33:49 <Diablo-D3>	we dont have that much money
Mar 17 22:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	what sort of fucking fantasia is this, a town with 6 cops and 6000 growlights
Mar 17 22:34:06 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: /me shrugs
Mar 17 22:34:18 <benkay>	portland oregon
Mar 17 22:34:18 <Bugpowder>	Arcata
Mar 17 22:34:19 <Diablo-D3>	theres a few kids in jail too, but they were the drunks
Mar 17 22:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	soon enough half california is moving there
Mar 17 22:34:24 <Bugpowder>	Humbolt
Mar 17 22:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i know a chick that went to humbolt. she hated it.
Mar 17 22:34:46 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.001)
Mar 17 22:34:46 <gribble>	75.0750750751
Mar 17 22:34:48 <Diablo-D3>	and I think like half the girls were pregnant before they would have got out of college if they had actually went
Mar 17 22:34:52 <Bugpowder>	Portland Maine?
Mar 17 22:34:58 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: farther north.
Mar 17 22:35:03 <Diablo-D3>	at least you got the right state
Mar 17 22:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	the thing with maine is, no matter what you pick ppl go "further north"
Mar 17 22:35:24 <Bugpowder>	Caribou
Mar 17 22:35:52 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: not that far north damnit
Mar 17 22:35:59 <Diablo-D3>	caribou isnt even part of maine anymore
Mar 17 22:36:06 <Diablo-D3>	they all speak french up there and shit
Mar 17 22:36:10 <Diablo-D3>	fucking canadians
Mar 17 22:36:13 <Bugpowder>	ha
Mar 17 22:37:05 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, if one of my neighbors goes "eh, those hosers, eh?" Im going to slug them
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Mar 17 22:37:58 <benkay>	aggro much?
Mar 17 22:38:08 <Diablo-D3>	I hate canada :<
Mar 17 22:38:27 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: but yeah, no wonder the US economy is in shambles
Mar 17 22:38:36 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: it costs $50k to start a company the right way
Mar 17 22:38:55 <kakobrekla>	O_o
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Mar 17 22:39:57 <Bugpowder>	Diablo-D3: I don't think so
Mar 17 22:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	depends a lot on the sort of company you're starting.
Mar 17 22:40:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14726 @ 0.00070743 = 10.4176 BTC [-]
Mar 17 22:40:06 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: the kind that makes money
Mar 17 22:40:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6074 @ 0.00071737 = 4.3573 BTC [+]
Mar 17 22:40:15 <Bugpowder>	Get an angel
Mar 17 22:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's more of the case of, "the kind you shouldn't be starting if you're poor"
Mar 17 22:40:22 <Bugpowder>	If your idea is so great
Mar 17 22:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	believe it or not there is such a subset.
Mar 17 22:40:38 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: that'd be anything that makes money
Mar 17 22:40:41 <Bugpowder>	The angel funding environment is better than it has ever been
Mar 17 22:40:47 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: actually, Smickles Accounting Services, a limited company is profitable as of today
Mar 17 22:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much everything involving the handling of money is not something that should be done by people without the experience of handling money.
Mar 17 22:40:55 <Diablo-D3>	like, I could, pretty much, overnight fuck Amazon's cloud business over hard
Mar 17 22:41:00 <Diablo-D3>	it'd just cost about $100m =/
Mar 17 22:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder has a point there. if organised freakshows / circus acts a la what gets funded by ycombinator can get 500k
Mar 17 22:41:21 <pigeons>	anybody could, but how much would it make you
Mar 17 22:41:22 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much a walking zombie could get 50k
Mar 17 22:41:35 <Diablo-D3>	I dont live in california though
Mar 17 22:41:38 <Bugpowder>	granted it might be harder in maine
Mar 17 22:41:41 <Diablo-D3>	or nyc
Mar 17 22:41:47 <Bugpowder>	why not move?
Mar 17 22:41:54 <mircea_popescu>	train from maine to nyc costs you less than what you can panhandle in a day
Mar 17 22:41:56 <Diablo-D3>	because moving wouldnt do anything
Mar 17 22:42:02 <Diablo-D3>	maine is the optimum location for this business
Mar 17 22:42:06 <smickles>	we've been in operation since jan14 this year, and today we just overcame the organizational expeses
Mar 17 22:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	dude. just visit.
Mar 17 22:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	smickles wd!
Mar 17 22:42:14 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: visit _what_
Mar 17 22:42:18 <mircea_popescu>	nyc.
Mar 17 22:42:19 <smickles>	thx :)
Mar 17 22:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	go there suck up to angels.
Mar 17 22:42:25 <Diablo-D3>	dude, I know no one in nyc
Mar 17 22:42:26 <Bugpowder>	find some angles
Mar 17 22:42:31 <Diablo-D3>	I dont even own a fucking suit
Mar 17 22:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	listen, i knew no one in any town i went to.
Mar 17 22:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	it takes what, two hours to pick up a chick get shown around.
Mar 17 22:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	and  that if you lunch.
Mar 17 22:43:02 <Diablo-D3>	goddamnit, whoever runs whatever shoutcast station Im listening to, STOP SENDING GARBAGE THROUGH THE PIPE
Mar 17 22:43:09 <Diablo-D3>	I think Im deaf in one ear now
Mar 17 22:43:26 <kakobrekla>	it is called "shout"cast aint it
Mar 17 22:43:30 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you're one of those type A personalities though
Mar 17 22:43:33 <Diablo-D3>	Im not
Mar 17 22:43:33 <Bugpowder>	you might not be good at starting a business
Mar 17 22:43:39 <Bugpowder>	you need a partner
Mar 17 22:43:42 <mircea_popescu>	type a for asshole ?
Mar 17 22:43:55 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: yeah, and who would I trust for that job?
Mar 17 22:44:10 <Diablo-D3>	Ive given people tiny little bits of trust, and look what they do with it
Mar 17 22:44:12 <Bugpowder>	Well, you could try to present your idea to some freshly minted MBAs
Mar 17 22:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder incidentally, i think he's describing the problem that keeps 90% from all ventures from happening.
Mar 17 22:44:34 <Bugpowder>	Many business schools have courses where people come pitch their idea
Mar 17 22:44:41 <Bugpowder>	and MBAs link up with them
Mar 17 22:44:43 <mircea_popescu>	people with technical ability tend to be shy and suspicious. not trying to imply he has any technical ability ofcourse :D
Mar 17 22:45:05 <Bugpowder>	there are more MBAs out there than good ideas / people with skills
Mar 17 22:45:27 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: oh gee thanks
Mar 17 22:45:36 <mircea_popescu>	i got your back bro :D
Mar 17 22:45:45 <Bugpowder>	You just need to find a decent MBA dude to partner with
Mar 17 22:45:49 <Diablo-D3>	I'd like to have a cofounder
Mar 17 22:45:53 <Bugpowder>	you should
Mar 17 22:45:57 <Diablo-D3>	but I don't want to be stuck as the technical cofounder
Mar 17 22:46:03 <Bugpowder>	you should have 2-3 people
Mar 17 22:46:05 <Bugpowder>	dude
Mar 17 22:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	ideally 3.
Mar 17 22:46:08 <usagi>	it could work. look what happened to zuckerberg
Mar 17 22:46:10 <Bugpowder>	you are stuck as nothing right now
Mar 17 22:46:10 <Diablo-D3>	I'd like to have someone who isn't an idiot when it comes to technology
Mar 17 22:46:22 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: zuckerberg stole an idea and then sued his way out of trouble
Mar 17 22:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	3 is the magic number. if you get a chick and you both do her especially.
Mar 17 22:46:32 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: he had OTHER people do the technical work nearly for free
Mar 17 22:46:34 <smickles>	consider the word 'company'
Mar 17 22:46:39 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: the fucker doesn't even know how to program
Mar 17 22:46:45 <usagi>	So think what would happen if it was his idea in the first place.
Mar 17 22:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 same thing happened with the steves
Mar 17 22:46:48 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: yes, and consider what an LLC is
Mar 17 22:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	jobs pretty much fucked over woz
Mar 17 22:47:06 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: heh, i have a simple business tho
Mar 17 22:47:11 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I still think steve jobs died in 1984
Mar 17 22:47:13 <Bugpowder>	Diablo-D3: You could start by reading ALL OF THIS.  http://blakemasters.com/peter-thiels-cs183-startup/
Mar 17 22:47:16 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: and its just bee a massive coverup ever since
Mar 17 22:47:23 <Diablo-D3>	>peter thiel
Mar 17 22:47:25 <Diablo-D3>	oh hai
Mar 17 22:47:30 <Bugpowder>	it's just one perspective, but it a better one than you have right now
Mar 17 22:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12580 @ 0.00071737 = 9.0245 BTC [+]
Mar 17 22:47:54 <mircea_popescu>	signed.
Mar 17 22:48:24 <smickles>	$mpexlag
Mar 17 22:48:26 <mpexbot>	smickles: 0.099424123764 seconds
Mar 17 22:48:39 <smickles>	what's the other one?
Mar 17 22:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	zee outrage
Mar 17 22:48:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag
Mar 17 22:48:49 <gribble>	0.131244 seconds
Mar 17 22:48:51 <smickles>	$email
Mar 17 22:48:52 <mpexbot>	smickles: No new messages received.
Mar 17 22:49:00 <smickles>	inbox 0
Mar 17 22:49:03 <smickles>	hells ya
Mar 17 22:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	$email
Mar 17 22:49:07 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: No new messages received.
Mar 17 22:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	cool.
Mar 17 22:49:10 <Bugpowder>	Delaware's Div of Corporations charges $1,000 for 1 hour processing. For when you absolutely, positively must incorporate by lunchtime
Mar 17 22:49:26 <smickles>	1 hour processing?!!
Mar 17 22:49:37 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool service actually.
Mar 17 22:49:43 <smickles>	i waited like 2 months D:
Mar 17 22:49:55 <smickles>	and they lost my paperwork the first time
Mar 17 22:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	smickles in exchange, you paid your organisational expenses by march 18th :D
Mar 17 22:50:01 <Bugpowder>	Delaware's 2012 rev = $3.36 billion, 30% of which (abt $985M) was from franchise+corp taxes+biz fees
Mar 17 22:50:14 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: heh, yeah :)
Mar 17 22:50:45 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 17 22:50:46 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.115979194641 seconds
Mar 17 22:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	fucking bs routers
Mar 17 22:51:00 <usagi>	Diablo: Thiel’s law: A startup messed up at its foundation cannot be fixed.
Mar 17 22:51:34 <smickles>	that's 'a startup' tho, they play by different rules
Mar 17 22:51:35 <Diablo-D3>	usagi: I've heard this, and yes, I agree
Mar 17 22:51:41 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: this is still a startup
Mar 17 22:51:49 <smickles>	ha
Mar 17 22:51:49 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: it just has a massive scope
Mar 17 22:51:56 <Bugpowder>	what is 'this'?
Mar 17 22:52:01 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: dmc 2.0
Mar 17 22:52:21 <Bugpowder>	First, drop the 2.0.  Call it DMC^2
Mar 17 22:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 17 22:52:40 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: hurrr, its not actually going to be called dmc 2.0
Mar 17 22:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	i tihnk in about five years the cost of a seat on this chan will be like... 30 btc.
Mar 17 22:52:49 <Diablo-D3>	I have a name picked out
Mar 17 22:52:53 <kakobrekla>	DMC^2 is something like bbbb?
Mar 17 22:53:05 <Bugpowder>	a grown man's fantasy?
Mar 17 22:53:31 <Bugpowder>	yes
Mar 17 22:53:31 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: huh?
Mar 17 22:53:31 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 17 22:53:33 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: I dont get the reference
Mar 17 22:53:40 <kakobrekla>	its ok.
Mar 17 22:55:17 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85829.msg1634650#msg1634650
Mar 17 22:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	hey look at that, ciuciu has funds now
Mar 17 22:56:51 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow
Mar 17 22:57:05 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, I think where I failed with DMC is I paired the plan down too small
Mar 17 22:57:37 <kakobrekla>	shoulda left it with 1 mio btc
Mar 17 22:58:09 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: yeah, and I shouldnt have paired it down to only a dozen or two racks
Mar 17 22:58:30 <Diablo-D3>	the original plan I didn't show anyone in the bitcoin community was on the order of a hundred racks or more
Mar 17 22:59:09 <Diablo-D3>	using today's tech, I can pretty much take $100m and have more storage than Amazon, and they're currently the largest public storage pool available
Mar 17 22:59:44 <Bugpowder>	do you think that is why they are winning?
Mar 17 22:59:53 <Bugpowder>	they have the most drives?
Mar 17 23:00:01 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: yes, I actually do
Mar 17 23:00:05 <Diablo-D3>	they're physically the biggest
Mar 17 23:00:15 <Diablo-D3>	its not because they're a successful bookstore.
Mar 17 23:00:44 <Bugpowder>	You are familiar with the Yegge rant right?
Mar 17 23:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	hum
Mar 17 23:00:47 <Diablo-D3>	(oddly enough, I finally ordered a book from them for the first time, and I've done thousands of dollars of business with them over the past however many years)
Mar 17 23:01:04 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: maybe, url?
Mar 17 23:02:01 <Bugpowder>	https://plus.google.com/112678702228711889851/posts/eVeouesvaVX
Mar 17 23:02:21 <Bugpowder>	 1) All teams will henceforth expose their data and functionality through service interfaces.  2) Teams must communicate with each other through these interfaces.  3) There will be no other form of interprocess communication allowed:
Mar 17 23:02:34 <Bugpowder>	5) All service interfaces, without exception, must be designed from the ground up to be externalizable.
Mar 17 23:02:39 <Bugpowder>	6) Anyone who doesn't do this will be fired.
Mar 17 23:02:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00070735 = 3.5368 BTC [-]
Mar 17 23:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00070573 = 9.7391 BTC [-]
Mar 17 23:02:59 <Diablo-D3>	oh heh, I've read this one
Mar 17 23:03:24 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: however, I agree with jeff bezos's mandate
Mar 17 23:03:31 <Diablo-D3>	he basically did what IBM already did in the 60s
Mar 17 23:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136357582265.png check out this work of cubism
Mar 17 23:04:03 <Bugpowder>	Nikkei is NOT happy
Mar 17 23:04:17 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: lol?
Mar 17 23:04:32 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder ya asian mkts are getting the hammering
Mar 17 23:04:52 <Bugpowder>	aiight
Mar 17 23:05:12 <Bugpowder>	I'm going to bed.  Wasted enough time here... See ya next week.
Mar 17 23:05:34 <Bugpowder>	Panic will commence at 0700 hours tomorrow morning
Mar 17 23:05:39 <Bugpowder>	personal panic
Mar 17 23:05:47 <Diablo-D3>	why?
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Mar 17 23:07:31 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Mar 17 23:07:47 <Diablo-D3>	sigh.
Mar 17 23:07:57 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno.
Mar 17 23:08:05 <Diablo-D3>	I want DMC 2.0 to be successful
Mar 17 23:10:04 <smickles>	https://smickles.com/mpex-gui/ << love it peeps
Mar 17 23:11:39 <smickles>	kakobrekla: were you the one who mentioned working on a kalman filter based trade bot?
Mar 17 23:12:09 <kakobrekla>	yeah what about it
Mar 17 23:12:26 <smickles>	how's the project been doing?
Mar 17 23:12:54 <kakobrekla>	ah well i have build various indicators based on it
Mar 17 23:13:24 <kakobrekla>	packing the latest one into a bot as we speak
Mar 17 23:13:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33318 BTC [-]
Mar 17 23:14:16 <smickles>	neat. I thought it sounded promising :)
Mar 17 23:14:49 <kakobrekla>	is not bad at all
Mar 17 23:20:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24044 @ 0.00071737 = 17.2484 BTC [+]
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Mar 17 23:28:26 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu that didnt take long https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151354.msg1636288#msg1636288
Mar 17 23:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	haha cool
Mar 17 23:28:49 <kakobrekla>	moar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154272.msg1636282#msg1636282
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Mar 17 23:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	this will end in tears.
Mar 17 23:29:16 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 17 23:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	looks to me like a lot of newcomers drinking the visibility coolaid
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Mar 17 23:32:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder you know that google rant was useful. i still don't think facebook is worth over 10 bucks but at least i understand now why it's not worth zero.
Mar 17 23:32:39 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 17 23:35:19 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: that rant popped up on HN shortly after it was posted
Mar 17 23:35:22 <Diablo-D3>	I enjoyed it
Mar 17 23:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	i don't really follow/care about them gizmo corps
Mar 17 23:36:14 <Diablo-D3>	you're not technically minded, thats why
Mar 17 23:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	i am technically minded, i just don't happen to be a hipster.
Mar 17 23:37:34 <Diablo-D3>	I find large scale data storage a very interesting topic
Mar 17 23:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	in and of itself, sure.
Mar 17 23:37:46 <Diablo-D3>	I dont really care for what facebook actually is though
Mar 17 23:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	the dickering, bickering, woes and troubles of wanna-be tech corps like google etc however...
Mar 17 23:38:01 <Diablo-D3>	I dont even have a facebook account
Mar 17 23:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be of interest if i were trying to marry a google paycheck or something.
Mar 17 23:38:23 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, I may just replace google at some point
Mar 17 23:38:34 <Diablo-D3>	google is a defective product.
Mar 17 23:40:11 <pigeons>	well it works alright for google. not so well long term for many users
Mar 17 23:40:38 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, I dont care about shareholder masturbation
Mar 17 23:40:42 <Diablo-D3>	it doesn't provide me any value
Mar 17 23:40:58 <Diablo-D3>	money, well, doesn't really have that much of a grip in me
Mar 17 23:41:09 <Diablo-D3>	I'm more about the learning and doing, not the owning
Mar 17 23:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	then you should get a job
Mar 17 23:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	starting companies is not for you.
Mar 17 23:42:19 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no company exists that can do what I want.
Mar 17 23:42:28 <Diablo-D3>	so that, too, is something I must do.
Mar 17 23:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	not how this works.
Mar 17 23:42:49 <Diablo-D3>	yes, this is whats wrong with this planet
Mar 17 23:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	if there's no company that does what you want and you can;'t start one, you sit and cry till someone else makes it
Mar 17 23:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	you don't become magically qualified just because.
Mar 17 23:43:06 <Diablo-D3>	I'm more than qualified to do the technical work
Mar 17 23:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	that's besides the point.
Mar 17 23:43:13 <Diablo-D3>	I'd rather delegate the actual business shit to someone else
Mar 17 23:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	only people who understand and productively apply owning things can start companies.
Mar 17 23:43:27 <Diablo-D3>	I haven't found anyone particularly qualified for the position
Mar 17 23:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's the entire point. owning.
Mar 17 23:43:47 <Diablo-D3>	"productively owning things"
Mar 17 23:43:50 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Mar 17 23:43:53 <Diablo-D3>	productivity does not come out of owning things.
Mar 17 23:43:57 <mircea_popescu>	o yes it does.
Mar 17 23:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	the only source of productivity is ownership.
Mar 17 23:44:17 <Diablo-D3>	then I must be the richest person on the planet.
Mar 17 23:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	or just the person with the worst instrumentation.
Mar 17 23:44:48 <Diablo-D3>	the things I care about simply cannot be bought.
Mar 17 23:45:02 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 17 23:45:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.30011, Best ask: 47.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19988, Last trade: 47.50000, 24 hour volume: 17273.34835843, 24 hour low: 46.81000, 24 hour high: 47.75000, 24 hour vwap: 47.47338
Mar 17 23:45:06 <Diablo-D3>	this is why money just doesn't feature that big in my life.
Mar 17 23:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	ya well... that's fine, but you'll never go anywhere with a company.
Mar 17 23:45:40 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I think you've misunderstood somewhere.
Mar 17 23:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Mar 17 23:45:50 <Diablo-D3>	Any company I run will be highly efficient.
Mar 17 23:46:07 <mircea_popescu>	more like, you'll wish for any company you run to be highly efficient.
Mar 17 23:46:10 <Diablo-D3>	It will not be one of these… whatever the fuck you call companies like IBM or Google
Mar 17 23:46:20 <Diablo-D3>	all this money wasted on dumb shit
Mar 17 23:46:55 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, yes, I understand this is how all shareholder owned companies work
Mar 17 23:46:57 <BitHub>	osbourne?
Mar 17 23:47:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8748 BTC [+]
Mar 17 23:47:17 <Diablo-D3>	they're highly inefficient and do not put money into improving the user experience.
Mar 17 23:47:21 <Diablo-D3>	s/user/customer/
Mar 17 23:47:30 <Diablo-D3>	I have no interest in even working for such companies.
Mar 17 23:47:41 <Diablo-D3>	They simply can't do what I need them to do.
Mar 17 23:48:18 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, hell, if Google was serious about becoming the Internet or whatever nonsense they have cooked up this week, they'd just  go private already and go back to work.
Mar 17 23:48:54 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: companies exist for one reason and one reason only
Mar 17 23:48:56 <Diablo-D3>	to make money.
Mar 17 23:49:38 <[\\\]>	Unless they're NPO
Mar 17 23:49:40 <Diablo-D3>	any company who is inefficient enough to leave money on the table like that simply does not deserve to exist
Mar 17 23:49:53 <Diablo-D3>	amazon could have cornered the entire cloud market
Mar 17 23:50:01 <Diablo-D3>	they could have bankrupted almost every competitor
Mar 17 23:50:03 <Diablo-D3>	and they haven't.
Mar 17 23:50:08 <Diablo-D3>	they screwed up.
Mar 17 23:52:09 <BitHub>	bank commercials tell me all the time how much they care about me tho
Mar 17 23:52:31 <Diablo-D3>	they care about your money
Mar 17 23:52:35 <Diablo-D3>	they dont care about you.
Mar 17 23:52:42 <Diablo-D3>	and since they you dont have any money
Mar 17 23:52:45 <Diablo-D3>	they care even less about you.
Mar 17 23:52:52 <BitHub>	so they're not going to come to my daughters graduation then?
Mar 17 23:52:55 <BitHub>	rude pricks
Mar 17 23:53:09 <pigeons>	statefarm insurance is a good neighbor
Mar 17 23:53:27 <BitHub>	D3 i don't have money? lulz
Mar 17 23:53:29 <BitHub>	okey
Mar 17 23:53:30 <Diablo-D3>	no, but they'll be happy to loan her money she can never repay to go to college.
Mar 17 23:53:41 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: unless you;re a millionare, no.
Mar 17 23:53:52 <BitHub>	ahh i see
Mar 17 23:54:08 <BitHub>	real money
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Mar 17 23:54:18 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, real money
Mar 17 23:56:27 <BitHub>	company = being a target
Mar 17 23:57:44 <pigeons>	going outside = being a target
Mar 17 23:58:02 <pigeons>	get a bigger gun
Mar 17 23:58:30 <BitHub>	i must be the only person lucky enough to roll without burners
Mar 17 23:58:56 <BitHub>	here i mean
Mar 17 23:59:08 <BitHub>	everyone is gunned up heh
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Mar 18 00:11:36 <Chaang-Noi>	we ever figure out why the nextwork wqas on fire?
Mar 18 00:11:51 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl avalon, asicminer or luck?
Mar 18 00:12:22 <Chaang-Noi>	and yeah, lots of guns and rottwilers here....
Mar 18 00:12:35 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 18 00:12:37 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226490 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1317 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 14 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6163571.41569 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.14563
Mar 18 00:12:39 <Chaang-Noi>	good to have just in case :)
Mar 18 00:12:58 <Chaang-Noi>	27% jump, seems like we slowed down a bit
Mar 18 00:13:12 <kakobrekla>	slowed down?
Mar 18 00:13:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 18 00:13:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.56250, Best ask: 47.69095, Bid-ask spread: 0.12845, Last trade: 47.69098, 24 hour volume: 17248.04188473, 24 hour low: 46.81000, 24 hour high: 47.75000, 24 hour vwap: 47.47479
Mar 18 00:13:34 <Chaang-Noi>	it was a bit faster 12 hours ago
Mar 18 00:13:50 <kakobrekla>	ya well it goes up and down
Mar 18 00:14:05 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, after 12 hours anyone figure out why? i had to sleep :/
Mar 18 00:14:05 <kakobrekla>	mostly up tho
Mar 18 00:14:24 <Chaang-Noi>	ahhhhhh coooffffeeeeee   :D
Mar 18 00:14:43 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 18 00:14:44 <gribble>	47262.136161641218
Mar 18 00:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129354.msg1635878#msg1635878
Mar 18 00:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	i don't get this. is he a hoster that doesn't understand hosting ?
Mar 18 00:16:05 <Chaang-Noi>	we were at 54 th last night
Mar 18 00:16:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i hope it was not bfl...
Mar 18 00:16:52 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer is down 1 th, hmmm
Mar 18 00:17:43 <kakobrekla>	what a losers
Mar 18 00:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	what do they specifically claim, 10th ?
Mar 18 00:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	asicminer i mean
Mar 18 00:18:06 <dub>	nothing
Mar 18 00:18:29 <dub>	they claim to have created 12th worth of chip
Mar 18 00:18:42 <Chaang-Noi>	no, we can see their account on btcguild it was 6.2 th last night, it is now 5.2
Mar 18 00:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	dub ya but iirc about six weeks after "delivery" they were hashing with 6th
Mar 18 00:19:08 <Chaang-Noi>	there is some guy on ozcoin with 3 th but we dont think it is asicminer, might be avalon "testing"
Mar 18 00:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	or 50% capacity.
Mar 18 00:19:21 <dub>	mircea_popescu: yes
Mar 18 00:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	never was explained, the whys. have they yet got it up to the promised 12 ?
Mar 18 00:19:28 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah asicminer has had some problems that were not explained
Mar 18 00:19:33 <dub>	they said 'power and cable problem'
Mar 18 00:19:42 <dub>	or cooling
Mar 18 00:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	ya well...
Mar 18 00:19:45 <kakobrekla>	i suspect 'premine' is the reason for avalon delays.. aritificial
Mar 18 00:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	fans, obviously
Mar 18 00:19:50 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah power problems so moved tonew place, cant get the right staff... stuff like that
Mar 18 00:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla how do you mean ?
Mar 18 00:20:05 <Chaang-Noi>	they did say they want to be full up with the whole 60 th by the end of april
Mar 18 00:20:14 <kakobrekla>	well peeps reported 'a lot' of dust in the units
Mar 18 00:20:23 <kakobrekla>	meaning 'extensive testing'
Mar 18 00:20:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i would call that "testing"
Mar 18 00:20:32 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 18 00:20:41 <kakobrekla>	yeah the brackets are the problem.
Mar 18 00:20:59 <mircea_popescu>	oh
Mar 18 00:21:07 <kakobrekla>	they get 1500 usd back in a week
Mar 18 00:21:11 <kakobrekla>	or something
Mar 18 00:21:18 <kakobrekla>	and then sell for another 1500
Mar 18 00:21:23 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 18 00:21:40 <Chaang-Noi>	if they are short on company funds i think it would be hard not to "test" and get the money back.
Mar 18 00:22:06 <dub>	kakobrekla: probably only a little testing done outside in teh dirt
Mar 18 00:22:17 <dub>	im serious this is china, expect anything
Mar 18 00:22:24 <dub>	and alos nothing
Mar 18 00:22:31 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 18 00:23:03 <kakobrekla>	dunno why they dont sell modules only
Mar 18 00:23:25 <kakobrekla>	id stick one imah computah
Mar 18 00:23:35 <dub>	well in theory their model wins
Mar 18 00:23:50 <dub>	it just requires competence/honesty etc
Mar 18 00:24:16 <dub>	like you have fucking fabbed silicon, how do you fuck up supplying enough power and cooling to it
Mar 18 00:24:43 <kakobrekla>	im talkin bout avalon
Mar 18 00:24:55 <dub>	oh
Mar 18 00:24:56 <kakobrekla>	are they having these issues too?
Mar 18 00:25:36 <dub>	I think Jeff said his had some heat issues
Mar 18 00:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	dub basically the #1 problem with cowboy runs are the chip reliability.
Mar 18 00:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty much my main concern. hash hours per chip.
Mar 18 00:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	across the board.
Mar 18 00:26:28 <mircea_popescu>	anyone can fab silicon. doing it in any sort of comercially useful way however...
Mar 18 00:26:40 <kakobrekla>	ima gonna try to get a fury board if it will be for sale
Mar 18 00:27:17 <dub>	fury was the sea of hashers pga crowd?
Mar 18 00:27:26 <kakobrekla>	ya
Mar 18 00:27:27 <dub>	are they busting out an asic too?
Mar 18 00:27:32 <kakobrekla>	ya
Mar 18 00:27:57 <kakobrekla>	he gave me the sea of hashers source yesterday
Mar 18 00:28:10 <kakobrekla>	i gave it to someone to jerk around with
Mar 18 00:29:12 <kakobrekla>	but i just sold my last fpga
Mar 18 00:29:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i think i would buy a box and buy an aircon unit and my avalon in it if i had one...
Mar 18 00:29:29 <Chaang-Noi>	keep that shit on ice
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Mar 18 00:31:38 <Chaang-Noi>	btc crawling up, good sign for the week?
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Mar 18 00:35:39 <dub>	or GFC 2.0
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Mar 18 00:42:49 <Namworld>	Does that looks nice at all to anyone? http://www.namworld.net/pf/bitvps.com/openvz-vps
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Mar 18 00:43:55 <parseval>	I like that, Namworld
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Mar 18 00:44:47 <Namworld>	It can always be better however. Feedback on any elements or the whole would be appreciated.
Mar 18 00:46:55 <parseval>	It's a little bit wide..  If I have my 1920x screen cut in half, I have to expand the browser window...  it looks like there is room to make the list expansive rather than fixed, or with a narrower min-width
Mar 18 00:47:47 <smickles>	they look like little racks <3
Mar 18 00:48:24 <tiberiusiv>	whats amazing about the litecoin crowd is they do not understand that bitcoin asics also increase litecoin difficulty
Mar 18 00:48:47 <Namworld>	That's pretty much what they're intended to look like. Little racked servers.
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Mar 18 00:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00071737 = 3.2282 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 00:49:32 <parseval>	Do you do colocation at all?
Mar 18 00:49:50 <Namworld>	No, we don't offer that.
Mar 18 00:50:44 <parseval>	It might be good to put the connection speed along with the bandwidth
Mar 18 00:52:32 <Namworld>	Well since it's VPSes the cables are kind of shared so... there's no definite guaranteed speed.
Mar 18 00:52:47 <Namworld>	Might vary depending on the server size too.
Mar 18 00:53:00 <Namworld>	All depends on the machine the VPS is on and others.
Mar 18 00:53:18 <parseval>	Okay
Mar 18 00:54:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00070573 = 8.5393 BTC [-]
Mar 18 00:54:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12211 @ 0.00070201 = 8.5722 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 01:02:38 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_t39jCXXIrY
Mar 18 01:02:39 <Diablo-D3>	man
Mar 18 01:02:42 <Diablo-D3>	this video is lol
Mar 18 01:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/happy-first-birthday-mpex/
Mar 18 01:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	lalala
Mar 18 01:11:17 <Chaang-Noi>	do we get cake?
Mar 18 01:12:43 <mircea_popescu>	i do
Mar 18 01:13:46 <Namworld>	Seems like he really caught the Bitcoin bug
Mar 18 01:16:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @ 2.5 = 5 BTC
Mar 18 01:16:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 8 @ 2.5 = 20 BTC
Mar 18 01:16:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 3 @ 2.5 = 7.5 BTC
Mar 18 01:16:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 4 @ 2.5 = 10 BTC
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Mar 18 01:17:34 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: yeah really
Mar 18 01:17:35 <Diablo-D3>	I mean
Mar 18 01:17:41 <Diablo-D3>	didnt he show up to that one bitcoin convention?
Mar 18 01:17:45 <Diablo-D3>	the one in london?
Mar 18 01:18:29 <Namworld>	Not sure.
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Mar 18 01:22:47 <Namworld>	Look. A bucket shop.
Mar 18 01:22:55 <usagi>	Namworld: It looks nice, and thank you.
Mar 18 01:23:15 <usagi>	I like it about 4.6% better than the old one.
Mar 18 01:23:55 <the-bucket-shop>	wassup?
Mar 18 01:25:05 <Namworld>	Eheh, not by much apparently.
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Mar 18 01:26:08 <usagi>	4.6% is a lot when you're dealing with billions
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Mar 18 01:27:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 155 @ 0.00499 = 0.7735 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 01:27:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.874695 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 01:36:46 <smickles>	lol, mircea_popescu how is 101401.7833687 a 'nice round number'?
Mar 18 01:36:59 <Namworld>	Not sure I'm following you but anyway
Mar 18 01:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00068138 = 4.7356 BTC [-]
Mar 18 01:37:04 <Namworld>	@Usagi
Mar 18 01:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	smickles sh :p
Mar 18 01:45:30 <Diablo-D3>	so
Mar 18 01:45:34 <Diablo-D3>	I think what I'm going to do is this
Mar 18 01:45:40 <Diablo-D3>	issue $100m worth of bonds
Mar 18 01:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	go to jail
Mar 18 01:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	???
Mar 18 01:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	profit.
Mar 18 01:46:17 <Diablo-D3>	no
Mar 18 01:46:30 <Diablo-D3>	and basically bankrupt verizon by eating their lunch
Mar 18 01:47:29 <Namworld>	Well, I'm off, night everyone.
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Mar 18 01:48:34 <kakobrekla>	you know its bad when you see ppl in merrica go to sleep.
Mar 18 01:50:53 <smickles>	lol
Mar 18 01:51:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.821501 BTC [-]
Mar 18 01:51:59 <smickles>	OMFG, threading is awesome!
Mar 18 01:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2 BTC [+]
Mar 18 01:52:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87193 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 01:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.54 BTC [-]
Mar 18 01:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.535 = 1.07 BTC [-]
Mar 18 02:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5130002 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 02:09:09 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: I am going to beat you like a drum
Mar 18 02:09:13 <Diablo-D3>	async messaging > threading
Mar 18 02:10:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.8215 = 12.3225 BTC [-]
Mar 18 02:10:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [-]
Mar 18 02:10:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.81 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 02:16:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1978 = 0.3956 BTC [+]
Mar 18 02:16:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1979 = 0.3958 BTC [+]
Mar 18 02:16:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 15 @ 0.198 = 2.97 BTC [+]
Mar 18 02:17:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.199999 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 18 02:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	@SarahKSilverman My heart breaks for people who don't know the relief & joy of being wrong & saying sorry
Mar 18 02:18:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.48993 BTC [+]
Mar 18 02:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	@Mircea_Popescu @SarahKSilverman Too old to have your heart broken for the proper reasons ?
Mar 18 02:25:49 <midnightmagic>	making friends still I see
Mar 18 02:27:45 *	smickles has no idea about async messaging
Mar 18 02:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	ever read swift ?
Mar 18 02:29:02 <smickles>	i read taylor swift all the time
Mar 18 02:29:07 <smickles>	she's brilliant
Mar 18 02:29:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 18 02:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	johnatan
Mar 18 02:29:37 <mircea_popescu>	i don't read these new things
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Mar 18 02:40:59 <smickles>	soebot is back :D
Mar 18 02:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	$email
Mar 18 02:43:56 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: No new messages received.
Mar 18 02:44:34 <smickles>	$markov
Mar 18 02:44:34 <mpexbot>	indeed. far away in the stroller, comes back with 3 strollers and a motorbike
Mar 18 02:44:52 <smickles>	o_0
Mar 18 02:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 18 02:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00068708 = 11.5429 BTC [+]
Mar 18 02:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00069629 = 7.1718 BTC [+]
Mar 18 03:04:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.800075 = 3.2003 BTC [-]
Mar 18 03:04:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8 = 8 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 03:06:59 <midnightmagic>	$doom
Mar 18 03:07:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.2 = 2 BTC [+]
Mar 18 03:07:04 <midnightmagic>	boo
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Mar 18 03:08:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00069629 = 1.3926 BTC [+]
Mar 18 03:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00069728 = 6.3801 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 03:25:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC
Mar 18 03:29:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 6 @ 0.48994 = 2.9396 BTC [+]
Mar 18 03:31:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9947 @ 0.00069178 = 6.8811 BTC [-]
Mar 18 03:31:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00068138 = 2.0782 BTC [-]
Mar 18 03:31:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4112 @ 0.00067896 = 2.7919 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 03:41:06 <dub>	$moo
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Mar 18 04:02:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00069001 = 3.243 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 04:10:00 <Olive6767>	Hi All :)
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Mar 18 04:21:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01966 BTC [+]
Mar 18 04:22:12 <TradeFortress>	options on btct.co!
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Mar 18 04:23:14 <smickles>	< dub> $moo << do that again
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Mar 18 04:30:22 <dub>	$moo
Mar 18 04:30:23 <mpexbot>	dub: It's starting to sound like Wal-Mart in here
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Mar 18 04:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00069001 = 15.7667 BTC [+]
Mar 18 04:53:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00068212 = 5.5593 BTC [-]
Mar 18 04:53:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.0006814 = 9.267 BTC [-]
Mar 18 04:54:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5588 @ 0.00067896 = 3.794 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 05:06:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.792125 = 7.9213 BTC [-]
Mar 18 05:07:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.792 = 7.92 BTC [-]
Mar 18 05:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00067637 = 3.6862 BTC [-]
Mar 18 05:07:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.791 BTC [-]
Mar 18 05:08:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.791 BTC [-]
Mar 18 05:09:20 <Chaang-Noi>	sell off :.
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Mar 18 05:32:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [-]
Mar 18 05:32:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 80 @ 0.105 = 8.4 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 05:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2506 @ 0.00067637 = 1.695 BTC [-]
Mar 18 05:38:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5415 @ 0.00067587 = 3.6598 BTC [-]
Mar 18 05:38:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7576 @ 0.00067334 = 5.1012 BTC [-]
Mar 18 05:38:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4653 @ 0.00066743 = 3.1056 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 08:29:19 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Mar 18 08:29:19 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/
Mar 18 08:29:19 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 08:15:50 2013
Mar 18 08:31:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5012 @ 0.00069593 = 3.488 BTC [+]
Mar 18 08:31:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3488 @ 0.00069728 = 2.4321 BTC [+]
Mar 18 08:50:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3392 @ 0.00068243 = 2.3148 BTC [-]
Mar 18 08:50:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1074 @ 0.00068028 = 0.7306 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 09:26:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC
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Mar 18 09:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 09:39:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.849999 = 1.7 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 09:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 09:52:16 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu
Mar 18 09:52:22 <pigeons>	is a
Mar 18 09:52:40 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu, I has been quoted.  I want my royalties.
Mar 18 09:55:19 <pigeons>	link
Mar 18 09:56:43 <imsaguy>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-ddosed-an-epic/
Mar 18 09:57:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01028 BTC [-]
Mar 18 09:57:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01027 BTC [-]
Mar 18 09:57:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.01 = 0.06 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 09:59:28 <jurov>	imsaguy, what do you want? free mpex acct? i guess mp's offer doesn't extend so far
Mar 18 10:00:31 <jurov>	you'll have to choose from the 5 or so options i PM'd you anyway, no need to make a fuss around it
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Mar 18 10:04:30 <imsaguy>	who's making a fuss?
Mar 18 10:05:03 <jurov>	TFA clearly says i'm collecting the claims.
Mar 18 10:05:18 <jcpham>	imsaguy you can have my free account
Mar 18 10:05:19 <jurov>	and i'm still waiting for you to choose
Mar 18 10:05:30 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu totaly promised me a free mpex account
Mar 18 10:05:38 <jcpham>	don't let him weasel out either
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Mar 18 10:05:56 <imsaguy>	I'm sorry, I missed the PPS
Mar 18 10:06:07 <pigeons>	he gave me a free one, cause no one would take them at the time
Mar 18 10:06:09 <imsaguy>	you've have to forgive my missing that one line at the very end of the frakking article
Mar 18 10:06:24 <imsaguy>	s/you've/you/
Mar 18 10:06:40 <imsaguy>	I didn't mean to step on your toes
Mar 18 10:07:08 <jcpham>	too many hookers and blow this weekend
Mar 18 10:07:16 <jcpham>	i'm not even hearing your words
Mar 18 10:07:21 <jurov>	np :)
Mar 18 10:07:43 <imsaguy>	its fine
Mar 18 10:07:53 <jcpham>	;;calc 25*[ticker --last]
Mar 18 10:07:54 <gribble>	1188.00075
Mar 18 10:08:05 <jcpham>	http://i.imgur.com/sQXyefn.jpg
Mar 18 10:08:10 <jcpham>	from my cold, dead hands
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Mar 18 10:10:39 *	abracadabra loads up the .50BMG and takes aim at jcpham's left temple
Mar 18 10:10:49 <jurov>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:db7c48cd4027f8901d2642cd24ccf4cb2ebff53183c88985f1a6c1f0
Mar 18 10:10:51 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7
Mar 18 10:10:57 <jcpham>	you can't afford that ammo
Mar 18 10:11:00 <jcpham>	quit lying
Mar 18 10:11:04 <abracadabra>	heh
Mar 18 10:11:19 <abracadabra>	cost me less than 25BTC
Mar 18 10:11:20 <abracadabra>	:p
Mar 18 10:11:25 <jcpham>	damn
Mar 18 10:11:29 <jcpham>	got me there.
Mar 18 10:11:46 <jcpham>	you've got less than 6 hours
Mar 18 10:11:46 <jurov>	;;ident imsaguy
Mar 18 10:11:46 <gribble>	Nick 'imsaguy', with hostmask 'imsaguy!~imsaguy@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is not identified.
Mar 18 10:11:50 <jcpham>	then i'm on the move
Mar 18 10:12:00 <imsaguy>	;;tell jurov gpg info imsaguy
Mar 18 10:12:05 <imsaguy>	that gives you all the info you need :p
Mar 18 10:12:12 <jcpham>	can't ident
Mar 18 10:12:14 <jcpham>	imposter
Mar 18 10:12:43 <imsaguy>	more like I dont have my gpg keys on all of my machines
Mar 18 10:12:55 <jcpham>	whatever shill
Mar 18 10:13:03 <abracadabra>	IMPOSTER!</Evil monkey from Family Guy>
Mar 18 10:13:38 <jcpham>	shell->shell->shell->shell->shell->reverse tunnel->shell->port knock->auth
Mar 18 10:13:40 <jcpham>	like
Mar 18 10:13:42 <jcpham>	is easy
Mar 18 10:15:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33318 BTC [-]
Mar 18 10:15:14 <pigeons>	i have a service that retreives everify and sends me the decrypted string in the udp header of a fake netbios packet
Mar 18 10:15:29 <pigeons>	so i dont have to log into the machine with the key
Mar 18 10:15:38 <jcpham>	nice pigeons
Mar 18 10:16:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 65 @ 0.00499 = 0.3244 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 10:32:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 10:34:40 <coco89[a]>	so i found out there's a #googleglass channel
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Mar 18 10:37:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.00821 = 0.0164 BTC [-]
Mar 18 10:37:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.26 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 10:44:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00508 = 0.1016 BTC [+]
Mar 18 10:44:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 91 @ 0.00509 = 0.4632 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 10:53:02 <Chaang-Noi>	what is this about hookers and blow? :)
Mar 18 10:53:18 <imsaguy>	go back to your rice
Mar 18 10:53:24 <imsaguy>	no necro bumping
Mar 18 10:53:51 <Chaang-Noi>	no necro here :)
Mar 18 11:02:43 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 18 11:02:45 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226571 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1236 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6167651.23612 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.22979
Mar 18 11:03:12 <Chaang-Noi>	still 27%
Mar 18 11:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.0006819 = 7.0577 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 11:19:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00068526 = 5.6534 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 11:35:23 <jurov>	;;gpg info "[\\\]"
Mar 18 11:35:23 <gribble>	No such user registered.
Mar 18 11:35:37 <pigeons>	;;ident [\\\]
Mar 18 11:35:37 <gribble>	Error: "\\\" is not a valid command.
Mar 18 11:35:42 <jurov>	;;ident "[\\\]"
Mar 18 11:35:42 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Mar 18 11:36:08 <jurov>	how one verifies users with such douchy nicks?
Mar 18 11:36:20 <pigeons>	i'll post bond that it's really imsaguy
Mar 18 11:36:30 <jurov>	i know
Mar 18 11:36:51 <jurov>	\nick \";rm -rf /
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Mar 18 11:37:03 <pigeons>	;;ident "/[/\/\/\/]"
Mar 18 11:37:03 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Mar 18 11:37:18 <jurov>	lol
Mar 18 11:37:29 <jurov>	\nick "\";rm -rf /"
Mar 18 11:37:44 <jurov>	i cant even set something like that for myself
Mar 18 11:37:53 <pigeons>	not douchey enough
Mar 18 11:38:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00069502 = 3.1623 BTC [+]
Mar 18 11:38:08 <jurov>	;;ident \[\\\\\\\]
Mar 18 11:38:08 <gribble>	Error: "\\\\\\\" is not a valid command.
Mar 18 11:38:17 <jurov>	;;ident "\[\\\\\\\]"
Mar 18 11:38:17 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Mar 18 11:47:48 <imsaguy>	lol
Mar 18 11:47:56 <[\\\]>	;;ident
Mar 18 11:47:56 <gribble>	You are identified as user imsaguy, with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
Mar 18 11:47:58 <[\\\]>	how's that?
Mar 18 11:48:11 <[\\\]>	for the record, its:
Mar 18 11:48:20 <[\\\]>	;;ident "[\\\\\\]"
Mar 18 11:48:20 <gribble>	Nick '[\\\]', with hostmask '[\\\]!~imsaguy@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user imsaguy, with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
Mar 18 11:48:57 <[\\\]>	today's teaching moment has been brought to you by tripleslash
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Mar 18 11:57:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.0006819 = 2.1139 BTC [-]
Mar 18 11:57:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00068093 = 3.677 BTC [-]
Mar 18 12:00:22 <benkay>	i'm working out the offices of a startup in mountain view
Mar 18 12:00:40 <benkay>	and the small scale of their vision coupled with the huge scale of their burn rate is stunning
Mar 18 12:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.0051 = 11.22 BTC [+]
Mar 18 12:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5132 = 2.0528 BTC [-]
Mar 18 12:01:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5131 = 1.0262 BTC [-]
Mar 18 12:01:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5130001 = 2.052 BTC [-]
Mar 18 12:01:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.513 = 6.156 BTC [-]
Mar 18 12:04:27 <kakobrekla>	benkay?
Mar 18 12:05:58 <benkay>	yes.
Mar 18 12:08:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7402 @ 0.00068745 = 5.0885 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 12:11:04 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 18 12:11:06 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 40.34616177 high: 57.75068238 low: 37.78983401 volume: 35630 btc: 4870.67581779 30 day: no data
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Mar 18 12:17:01 <smickles>	"Your BitPay Merchant Account is approved! " < a day late, and 1% short
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Mar 18 12:20:57 <jurov>	https://www.tradehill.com/ isn't it bootstrap, too?
Mar 18 12:21:19 <imsaguy>	tradehill still exists?
Mar 18 12:21:22 <imsaguy>	and you'd use it?
Mar 18 12:21:57 <jurov>	no, just looking... apparently they just relaunched
Mar 18 12:25:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 10 @ 0.011 = 0.11 BTC [-]
Mar 18 12:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 8 @ 0.0885639 = 0.7085 BTC [+]
Mar 18 12:30:51 <jcpham>	http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/18/embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back/
Mar 18 12:33:05 <smickles>	;;calc 43/1.0885639
Mar 18 12:33:06 <gribble>	39.5015855293
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Mar 18 12:36:20 <jurov>	lmao slovak PM today uncovered a wall sculpture of Janosik - a national hero akin to Robin Hood
Mar 18 12:36:31 <jurov>	and said "he was first social democrat"
Mar 18 12:37:01 <jurov>	he has this sculpture in his very office
Mar 18 12:38:31 <smickles>	ha
Mar 18 12:38:58 <jurov>	Janosik was hanged 300 years ago... while I don't wish the same to Robert Fico (our PM)... but he really deserves it
Mar 18 12:39:12 <kakobrekla>	lol tradehill
Mar 18 12:39:18 <kakobrekla>	those guys should GTFO
Mar 18 12:39:26 <kakobrekla>	fuckin lamers
Mar 18 12:42:08 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 12:42:09 <gribble>	18.125554 seconds
Mar 18 12:42:14 <pizzaman1337>	kakobrekla: ^ :)
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Mar 18 12:47:01 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 18 12:47:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.55000, Best ask: 47.77999, Bid-ask spread: 0.22999, Last trade: 47.77999, 24 hour volume: 18298.11032076, 24 hour low: 47.07679, 24 hour high: 47.80000, 24 hour vwap: 47.54930
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Mar 18 12:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6627 @ 0.00069196 = 4.5856 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 12:53:50 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 18 12:53:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004501 / 0.00502512 / 0.0051 (2800 shares, 14.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00516022 / 0.00599987 (74721 shares, 385.58 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.0061008 / 0.0069 (2302191 shares, 14,045.22 BTC)
Mar 18 12:55:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.25 = 1 BTC [-]
Mar 18 12:56:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 13:26:56 <mod6>	;;ticker
Mar 18 13:26:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.54225, Best ask: 47.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25775, Last trade: 47.80000, 24 hour volume: 18802.01731684, 24 hour low: 47.07679, 24 hour high: 47.80000, 24 hour vwap: 47.55388
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Mar 18 13:35:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849999 BTC [+]
Mar 18 13:43:19 <smickles>	wow, soebot is a lot faster now
Mar 18 13:44:00 <smickles>	a little bit of refactoring goes a long way
Mar 18 13:45:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.00801 = 0.016 BTC [-]
Mar 18 13:45:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.008 = 0.024 BTC [-]
Mar 18 13:45:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.0065 = 0.0195 BTC [-]
Mar 18 13:45:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 20 @ 0.00601 = 0.1202 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 13:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4521 @ 0.00069196 = 3.1284 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 14:05:32 <pigeons>	interesting... suprised i didn't hear bout tradehill being back
Mar 18 14:06:03 <pigeons>	wtf
Mar 18 14:06:30 <pigeons>	The new site goes live today with a new business-focused product dubbed “Prime.”
Mar 18 14:06:54 <Diablo-D3>	heh
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Mar 18 14:07:00 <Diablo-D3>	I saw that in my rss feed like two days ago
Mar 18 14:07:40 <pigeons>	like the least interesting, least profitable thing you can do with bitcoins is trade them for dollars
Mar 18 14:08:00 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, especially since the USD is crashing
Mar 18 14:08:05 <Diablo-D3>	bitcoin is the new gold
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Mar 18 14:09:16 <pigeons>	"Please email us at claim@tradehill.com and I will put you in touch with the person doing payouts for the old company. Nearly all of the funds have already been claimed, and we would like to make you whole today if possible."
Mar 18 14:09:32 <[\\\]>	They must have gotten a new round of angel funds
Mar 18 14:09:39 <[\\\]>	nothing like continuing the bleed.
Mar 18 14:09:47 <smickles>	it's the same people?
Mar 18 14:09:48 <kakobrekla>	imma gonna stab someone in teh face
Mar 18 14:09:51 <kakobrekla>	over the internets.
Mar 18 14:09:52 <[\\\]>	yes
Mar 18 14:09:56 <[\\\]>	same ceo and cto
Mar 18 14:09:56 <pigeons>	[\\\]: The new team, based in San Francisco, has raised a small seed round of funding from angel investors and expects to close a first round of about $300,000 in the coming months.
Mar 18 14:10:06 <[\\\]>	new team?
Mar 18 14:10:08 <smickles>	they're determined
Mar 18 14:10:09 <[\\\]>	its the same figure heads
Mar 18 14:10:15 <pigeons>	meet the new team...same as the old team
Mar 18 14:10:42 <Diablo-D3>	red team blue team?
Mar 18 14:10:45 <[\\\]>	first verse, same as the first, whole lot louder and a whole lot worse.
Mar 18 14:10:54 <pigeons>	"Singer said the company made the decision to keep the Tradehill name as it’s an “established brand” with a strong network."
Mar 18 14:10:59 <[\\\]>	err, second
Mar 18 14:12:48 <smickles>	lol, i went to their site w/o javascript.... blank page  © tradehil
Mar 18 14:14:32 <pigeons>	well just make up a ridiculous joke of what you think it couldn't say, and that's what it says
Mar 18 14:14:48 <kakobrekla>	haha
Mar 18 14:16:43 <[\\\]>	photoshop something on to it
Mar 18 14:16:51 <[\\\]>	like a picture of a guy with a shoe on his head
Mar 18 14:16:55 <[\\\]>	"Must be legit."
Mar 18 14:16:56 <pigeons>	coinlab, tradehill, it sounds like the new hot business model is to position yourself as a "trading tool for professionals" and hope some sucker decides to throw some real money at trading and actually believes your crap that you are the way to go
Mar 18 14:17:07 <kakobrekla>	o wait whats the story with bakewell now
Mar 18 14:17:09 <kakobrekla>	scammur?
Mar 18 14:17:20 <benkay>	and yet none of them sound like products pro traders would use
Mar 18 14:17:23 <benkay>	lacking in words like
Mar 18 14:17:26 <benkay>	"forex"
Mar 18 14:17:28 <benkay>	"hedge"
Mar 18 14:17:35 <kakobrekla>	hey hey those words are taken
Mar 18 14:17:36 <pigeons>	he can't be a scammer his picture shows him wearing a tie
Mar 18 14:17:38 <benkay>	"option"
Mar 18 14:17:42 <[\\\]>	benkay, but "bitcoin"
Mar 18 14:17:51 <benkay>	dude i know slashes
Mar 18 14:17:59 <benkay>	i'm sitting in a mountain view startup office right now
Mar 18 14:18:05 <benkay>	full of wankers
Mar 18 14:18:23 <[\\\]>	The world is about 50% wankers
Mar 18 14:18:27 <pigeons>	up arrow stuck?
Mar 18 14:18:31 <benkay>	should be more careful, these logs are public.
Mar 18 14:18:45 <[\\\]>	Ive already been quoted.
Mar 18 14:18:49 <[\\\]>	working on royalties now.
Mar 18 14:18:54 <benkay>	anyways
Mar 18 14:19:01 <benkay>	"BITCOINZOMG"
Mar 18 14:19:13 <benkay>	except that it's not a good tech for the us. and nobody in sv gets that.
Mar 18 14:19:28 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: link to bakewell drama?
Mar 18 14:19:30 <smickles>	© i should prepend a © to all my lines
Mar 18 14:19:31 <benkay>	they don't really get markets outside of the west coast tech bubble in most events.
Mar 18 14:19:49 <kakobrekla>	pigeons dunno i herd he missed a payment is all
Mar 18 14:20:06 <kakobrekla>	now its been a week or so since
Mar 18 14:20:18 <pigeons>	oh, yeah i heard he stopped paying dividends a few weeks ago cuz..."waiting for asics"
Mar 18 14:20:34 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 18 14:21:34 <pigeons>	tradehill learned its lesson so this time they are a "fan club" only for accredited investors
Mar 18 14:22:11 <kakobrekla>	hahahah
Mar 18 14:23:21 <mod6>	jeeze
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Mar 18 14:27:54 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153979.msg1638301#msg1638301
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Mar 18 14:29:43 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh god, it hates me
Mar 18 14:29:52 <smickles>	isufficient funds for a stat
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Mar 18 14:32:50 <gigatube>	“This is a bank with a country attached.”
Mar 18 14:33:53 <pigeons>	;;whois gigatube
Mar 18 14:33:54 <gribble>	jcpham (~jcpham@unaffiliated/jcpham) has been on server zelazny.freenode.net since 05:03 PM, March 12, 2013 (idle for 38 seconds) and is voiced on bitcoin-otc and is also on #bitcoin-assets and #ripple.
Mar 18 14:34:05 <pigeons>	get them tied
Mar 18 14:34:11 <pigeons>	(the tubes)
Mar 18 14:34:31 <gigatube>	y u whois'n me
Mar 18 14:34:43 <gigatube>	u got beef pal
Mar 18 14:34:49 <gigatube>	wanna fight about it
Mar 18 14:35:00 <smickles>	if you do have beef, i'd like a sandwich
Mar 18 14:35:13 <gigatube>	i'd put mayonaisse on it
Mar 18 14:35:20 <gigatube>	man mayonaisse
Mar 18 14:35:24 <Diablo-D3>	no, not mayo
Mar 18 14:35:29 <Diablo-D3>	put horseradish mustard on it
Mar 18 14:35:30 <pigeons>	i remember on efnet you would get kicked if you whois someone you don't know via the server not publically through an in channel bot even
Mar 18 14:35:40 <Diablo-D3>	cold roast beef sandwitch with horseradish mustard om nom
Mar 18 14:35:42 <gigatube>	Diablo-D3 is thirsty for my man-maisse
Mar 18 14:35:52 <pigeons>	horsey sauce
Mar 18 14:36:02 <gigatube>	mmmm
Mar 18 14:36:06 <gigatube>	horsey sauce
Mar 18 14:37:16 <Diablo-D3>	horsey sauce *may not contain horse, unless tesco brand
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Mar 18 14:44:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.849999 = 4.25 BTC [+]
Mar 18 14:45:18 <smickles>	i'm a little suprised that we're still in the mid-upper 40's
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Mar 18 14:47:00 <Diablo-D3>	I know
Mar 18 14:47:05 <Diablo-D3>	you'd think we'd be past 100 b now
Mar 18 14:47:18 <gigatube>	50 has resistance for sure
Mar 18 14:47:42 <gigatube>	probably ewoks at work
Mar 18 14:47:47 <gigatube>	if i had to speculate
Mar 18 14:47:53 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 18 14:47:54 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 40.34617835 high: 57.75068238 low: 37.79027943 volume: 35638 btc: 4871.38432899 30 day: no data
Mar 18 14:48:15 <smickles>	and the peeps on mpex thought it's be much lower than here
Mar 18 14:48:45 <smickles>	almost 90% of them averaging out at 37.79
Mar 18 14:48:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10269 @ 0.00068859 = 7.0711 BTC [-]
Mar 18 14:48:54 <smickles>	10 bucks lower
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Mar 18 14:53:29 <jurov>	maybe it's cause there are no C1000 options
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Mar 18 14:53:52 <jurov>	wts C2000, maybe C5000 even.
Mar 18 14:54:32 <error4733>	!last m s.dice
Mar 18 14:54:33 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0051 BTC [+]
Mar 18 14:55:02 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 18 14:55:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004501 / 0.00502512 / 0.0051 (2800 shares, 14.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00515833 / 0.00599987 (73721 shares, 380.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609941 / 0.0069 (2297441 shares, 14,013.03 BTC)
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Mar 18 14:58:11 <guruvan>	!ticker m s.bbet
Mar 18 14:58:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00195371 / 0.002014 (31300 shares, 61.15 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00181129 / 0.002014 (117806 shares, 213.38 BTC)
Mar 18 14:58:51 <smickles>	hmm, let's see
Mar 18 14:58:56 <smickles>	$vwap s.bbet
Mar 18 14:58:58 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 0.00195372 high: 0.002014 low: 0.0015 volume: 31300 btc: 61.1513 30 day: average: 0.00181129 high: 0.002014 low: 0.0015 volume: 117806 btc: 213.38132387
Mar 18 14:59:15 <smickles>	yup, takes up more room
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Mar 18 15:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62 @ 0.00069728 = 0.0432 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:00:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 489 @ 0.00070107 = 0.3428 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:00:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00070374 = 7.53 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:01:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1202 @ 0.00071737 = 0.8623 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 15:03:57 <guruvan>	ah nice smickles - I like the vwaps better
Mar 18 15:04:20 <smickles>	guruvan: if you like that, checkout smickles.com/mpex-gui/
Mar 18 15:04:23 <smickles>	;D
Mar 18 15:04:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849999 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 15:05:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849999 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:05:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849999 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 15:06:39 <guruvan>	smickles - that's just pure awesome. I might have to get me one
Mar 18 15:07:06 <smickles>	thanks :)
Mar 18 15:07:38 <guruvan>	source comes with?
Mar 18 15:08:10 <smickles>	yes, but it's personal use, do not distribute original or modifications plz
Mar 18 15:08:48 <smickles>	(as this is a comercial operation)
Mar 18 15:08:53 <guruvan>	nope - of course not :)
Mar 18 15:09:25 <guruvan>	but it would be great to be able to extend it some
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Mar 18 15:11:04 <smickles>	totally. also, if you do something that really ought to be in the original, tell me. I'll wan't to buy it off of you or put it in for a royalty or some such
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Mar 18 15:12:19 <guruvan>	yah. would do that for sure.....also...you haz typo on smickles.com "I've recently lunched"...
Mar 18 15:12:38 <smickles>	oh no D: thx for pointing that out :)
Mar 18 15:12:38 *	guruvan macks mpex gui
Mar 18 15:12:40 <guruvan>	nom
Mar 18 15:12:45 <guruvan>	;)
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Mar 18 15:15:52 <smickles>	btc guild has been rockin' it recently
Mar 18 15:16:08 <pigeons>	these fast blocks are nice
Mar 18 15:16:20 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 18 15:16:21 <gribble>	47054.171902327282
Mar 18 15:16:24 <jonny7>	Is it a bad pracice to use my regular email when creating an account at mpex?
Mar 18 15:16:27 <smickles>	what is with that eligius ad?
Mar 18 15:16:34 <smickles>	"0% pps"
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Mar 18 15:16:43 <smickles>	so you don't get paid anything for mining?
Mar 18 15:16:53 <dub>	it all goes to jesus
Mar 18 15:17:25 *	guruvan is now known as Jesus
Mar 18 15:17:40 <smickles>	haha
Mar 18 15:17:44 <Jesus>	lol
Mar 18 15:17:56 <smickles>	forgive me lord
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Mar 18 15:18:11 <smickles>	for i have mined at deepbit
Mar 18 15:18:48 <dub>	uh don't do that if are
Mar 18 15:19:01 <dub>	if you are
Mar 18 15:19:35 <smickles>	i'm sorry, really, i did it back in the day before tycho made his political position known
Mar 18 15:19:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8697 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:20:00 <dub>	whats his position?
Mar 18 15:20:06 <kakobrekla>	jonny7 you mean when creating your key pair?
Mar 18 15:20:31 <smickles>	dub: i mean the bips he has supported in the past
Mar 18 15:20:39 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 18 15:20:42 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226602 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1205 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 16 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6137491.90908 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.60765
Mar 18 15:20:49 <jonny7>	I have an old laptop that I can keep my private key, but should I send my public key with my known email?
Mar 18 15:21:04 <jonny7>	Can other know what I have sold and bought?
Mar 18 15:21:06 <kakobrekla>	doesnt really matter
Mar 18 15:21:10 <smickles>	jonny7: how anon do you want to be?
Mar 18 15:21:31 <Jesus>	best practice is the make a fresh key, no matter the email addy (anonymity is the only thing about the associated email address)
Mar 18 15:22:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.862 BTC [-]
Mar 18 15:22:16 <dub>	smickles: I see
Mar 18 15:22:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [-]
Mar 18 15:23:08 <Jesus>	jonny7: others only know what you buy/sell if you provide them with the records - those are encrypted with your key
Mar 18 15:23:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [-]
Mar 18 15:24:19 <smickles>	my way of thinking, if you fear a tyranical gov't, and think that you can actually do something to prevent them getting to you, make a new keypair w/o an associated email address
Mar 18 15:24:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.24889 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:24:55 *	Jesus has no fear
Mar 18 15:24:57 <smickles>	however, i don't think i can escape a tyranical gov't who set their sights on me
Mar 18 15:25:05 *	Jesus is now known as guruvan
Mar 18 15:25:28 <smickles>	so it's serves me to have it associated with my email and otc id
Mar 18 15:25:33 <smickles>	example:
Mar 18 15:25:39 <guruvan>	smickles: you might not be able to, but your BTC and your mpex account will make it
Mar 18 15:25:50 <jonny7>	smickles: So the best is to use a email address that is not tied to me personal in case someone get all the records?
Mar 18 15:25:52 <smickles>	you can PUSH assets to me via my otc key fingerprint
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Mar 18 15:26:17 <smickles>	jonny7: probably. and it's detailed in the FAQ
Mar 18 15:26:34 <guruvan>	that is how mine is setup, as I am not concerned about the government getting my stuffs
Mar 18 15:26:50 <jonny7>	I will try to read though it once again
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Mar 18 15:26:53 <kakobrekla>	smickles are you planing on some sort of web interface for your brokerage or no
Mar 18 15:27:17 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i'm winding down the brokerage as i fear it's illegal in my country for me to do that
Mar 18 15:27:25 <kakobrekla>	oh
Mar 18 15:27:30 <guruvan>	do it in another country!
Mar 18 15:27:33 <guruvan>	:D
Mar 18 15:27:48 <smickles>	guruvan: i might once i make a bit more money
Mar 18 15:28:23 <smickles>	so i can pay to setup a company in that country off the coast of austrailia
Mar 18 15:28:24 <guruvan>	moving business out of the US is advisable anyhow
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Mar 18 15:28:46 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 18 15:28:52 <kakobrekla>	all bitcoiners should come to yurop
Mar 18 15:28:59 <smickles>	guruvan: well, my primary business is accounting for US citizens
Mar 18 15:29:25 <guruvan>	you're doing regular fiat-business accounting now (IIRC you were about to get your CPA)
Mar 18 15:29:28 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i intend to join mp's harem when i grow up
Mar 18 15:29:34 <kakobrekla>	haha
Mar 18 15:29:42 <kakobrekla>	see you there then!
Mar 18 15:29:55 <pigeons>	all bitcoiners should come to yurop and open cypatriot bank accounts
Mar 18 15:30:15 <kakobrekla>	well the first part is true
Mar 18 15:30:15 <guruvan>	smashing idea!
Mar 18 15:30:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01699 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:30:36 *	guruvan has 6.75% too much money
Mar 18 15:30:36 <mod6>	rally
Mar 18 15:30:44 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 18 15:30:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.30000, Best ask: 48.46000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16000, Last trade: 48.30000, 24 hour volume: 24392.94339891, 24 hour low: 47.07679, 24 hour high: 48.50000, 24 hour vwap: 47.68841
Mar 18 15:30:54 <smickles>	guruvan: i'm still a ways off from my CPA (having kids slows the process down).
Mar 18 15:31:05 <guruvan>	sweet. I do love rallies right after I buy some coins
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Mar 18 15:31:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01962 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:32:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01963 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:32:27 <kakobrekla>	!l glbse yabmc
Mar 18 15:32:28 <assbot>	Last trade for YABMC on GLBSE was at 0.0769 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:33:02 <smickles>	also, CPA is kinda a "good 'ol boys" club in that you have to have years of exp. under another cpa. so, as I own my own accounting company, i'm not getting the right kind of exp.
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Mar 18 15:34:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 4 @ 0.005 = 0.02 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 15:35:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00179 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:35:54 <smickles>	wow, what a nick
Mar 18 15:36:39 <guruvan>	all those things are good ol boys clobs....nothing as bad as a series 7 broker license AFAICT though
Mar 18 15:38:59 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 15:39:00 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 18 15:40:06 <smickles>	;;tslb
Mar 18 15:40:13 <gribble>	Time since last block: 6 minutes and 36 seconds
Mar 18 15:41:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3448 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	<pigeons> all bitcoiners should come to yurop << totally.
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Mar 18 15:42:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.349 = 0.698 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:42:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 14 @ 0.3499 = 4.8986 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 15:44:02 <kakobrekla>	give the proper props
Mar 18 15:44:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:44:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2027 @ 0.0051 = 10.3377 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 15:46:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2689 BTC [+]
Mar 18 15:47:00 <benkay>	good ol series 7
Mar 18 15:47:12 <benkay>	good ol sec
Mar 18 15:49:50 <thestringpuller>	yo smickles mah man
Mar 18 15:50:14 <kakobrekla>	hey you gonna pay the .5 btc or what :p
Mar 18 15:50:28 <thestringpuller>	didnt i sign for that?
Mar 18 15:50:40 <kakobrekla>	the what
Mar 18 15:50:58 <thestringpuller>	the .5 for data. i thought smickles was authed to send it to you
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Mar 18 15:51:08 <kakobrekla>	nothing happend
Mar 18 15:51:29 <thestringpuller>	can you pm me address and I will send smickles gpg mail when I get home
Mar 18 15:51:33 <thestringpuller>	i am at work
Mar 18 15:52:01 <kakobrekla>	k
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Mar 18 15:59:10 <smickles>	kakobrekla: I didn't send it b/c you said not to, so i left it alone
Mar 18 15:59:12 <smickles>	:P
Mar 18 15:59:29 <smickles>	perhaps there was some kind of miscommunication
Mar 18 15:59:40 <kakobrekla>	perhaps
Mar 18 15:59:48 <kakobrekla>	no biggie
Mar 18 15:59:57 <smickles>	you want it now?
Mar 18 16:02:00 <kakobrekla>	i thought thestringpuller must send you gpg mail before that
Mar 18 16:02:13 <kakobrekla>	;>
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Mar 18 16:12:41 <smickles>	kakobrekla: he was identified with gribble when he originally told me to do it
Mar 18 16:13:11 <kakobrekla>	ah
Mar 18 16:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> wts C2000, maybe C5000 even.  << seeing how the c75 is like... 5 cents
Mar 18 16:13:20 <kakobrekla>	ok well you can hit me up here then 1B6NP9eb4RKy9tRrXYCJnNcenZkrt5Q2gb
Mar 18 16:13:33 <smickles>	;;ident kakobrekla
Mar 18 16:13:33 <gribble>	Nick 'kakobrekla', with hostmask 'kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla', is not identified.
Mar 18 16:13:37 <smickles>	-_-
Mar 18 16:13:44 <kakobrekla>	IM SCAMMIN FOR 0.5 BTC
Mar 18 16:13:47 <kakobrekla>	DONTYAKNOW
Mar 18 16:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	"I've recently lunched"... ahahahaha ok
Mar 18 16:14:14 <kakobrekla>	;;ident kakobrekla
Mar 18 16:14:15 <gribble>	Nick 'kakobrekla', with hostmask 'kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla', is identified as user kakobrekla, with GPG key id 27AF75321F2489E8, key fingerprint 27C3CE9A20851312F086268C27AF75321F2489E8, and bitcoin address None
Mar 18 16:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	lies
Mar 18 16:14:21 <kakobrekla>	thar.
Mar 18 16:14:36 <kakobrekla>	had to join otc
Mar 18 16:14:41 <kakobrekla>	semi relevant line there
Mar 18 16:14:42 <kakobrekla>	21:14.17 ( sturles ) Anyay -- Cyprus is just a tiny bit of the Euro economy. The EUR itself won't notice.
Mar 18 16:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	orly.
Mar 18 16:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	that;s why when i cashed out 10k rons today they only had 9k in the entire bank
Mar 18 16:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	guy was like "can be 9800 if we include the 10 ron bills" (ie, 2.5 euro bills)
Mar 18 16:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e, 2.25
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Mar 18 16:17:38 <kakobrekla>	sorry i just had to poke
Mar 18 16:17:39 <kakobrekla>	21:14.32 ( kakobrekla ) had to join otc
Mar 18 16:17:39 <kakobrekla>	21:14.37 ( kakobrekla ) semi relevant line there
Mar 18 16:17:39 <kakobrekla>	21:14.37 ( kakobrekla ) 21:14.17 ( sturles ) Anyay -- Cyprus is just a tiny bit of the Euro economy. The EUR itself won't notice.
Mar 18 16:17:39 <kakobrekla>	21:15.39 ( mircea_popescu ) orly.
Mar 18 16:17:39 <kakobrekla>	21:15.54 ( mircea_popescu ) that;s why when i cashed out 10k rons today they only had 9k in the entire bank
Mar 18 16:17:40 <kakobrekla>	21:16.23 .•• info: ( sturles )/( ~sturles@unaffiliated/sturles ) opened a query with you: What happens there?
Mar 18 16:17:40 <kakobrekla>	21:16.28 ( mircea_popescu ) guy was like "can be 9800 if we include the 10 ron bills" (ie, 2.5 euro bills)
Mar 18 16:17:41 <kakobrekla>	21:16.32 ( mircea_popescu ) or w/e, 2.25
Mar 18 16:17:51 <kakobrekla>	anything to add?
Mar 18 16:18:29 <kakobrekla>	smickles recieved
Mar 18 16:18:44 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> "I've recently lunched"... ahahahaha ok << i was probably hungry
Mar 18 16:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like it
Mar 18 16:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154258.msg1637688#msg1637688
Mar 18 16:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	ha!
Mar 18 16:20:12 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu you need a fan club!
Mar 18 16:20:18 <smickles>	lol
Mar 18 16:20:25 <smickles>	those 173 reads were probably bots
Mar 18 16:21:07 <kakobrekla>	but make it so it pays out dividends or something
Mar 18 16:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, either tits or btc to join
Mar 18 16:21:47 <kakobrekla>	male tits count?
Mar 18 16:21:52 <jurov>	uh, should i add comment there "such structure shoudl be called a fan club"?
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Mar 18 16:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla male tits and fiat btc are outside of the scope of this conversation
Mar 18 16:22:10 <pigeons>	by the way mircea_popescu, you may already have heard about the return of tradehill, but we had a good laugh about it in the scrollback buffer
Mar 18 16:22:10 <kakobrekla>	jurov :)
Mar 18 16:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	the what ?!
Mar 18 16:22:29 <kakobrekla>	oh yeah
Mar 18 16:22:32 <mircea_popescu>	dude whenever i go out on the prowl all the good stuff happens.
Mar 18 16:22:32 <jurov>	>.> tradehill.com
Mar 18 16:22:33 <kakobrekla>	you keep missing the good stuff
Mar 18 16:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla well at least i lashed this chick with her doggylash...
Mar 18 16:23:04 <pigeons>	seriously, its only a fan club for accredited investors so no regulatory issues
Mar 18 16:23:07 <kakobrekla>	ok apparently we are missing he good stuff
Mar 18 16:23:13 <kakobrekla>	the*
Mar 18 16:23:45 <jurov>	kakobrekla what stuff? suddenly you desire some lashing, too?
Mar 18 16:23:49 <pigeons>	this is how you know that absolutely 200% of what tradehill is saying is utter bullshit
Mar 18 16:23:52 <pigeons>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154527.msg1637912#msg1637912
Mar 18 16:24:16 <kakobrekla>	jurov what makes you think im on that side?
Mar 18 16:24:19 <pigeons>	"Will Tradehill support other crypto-currencies in the near future? Short answer: Yes. "
Mar 18 16:24:38 <pigeons>	i expected to hear "Goat brings LTC to Wallstreet" but not tradehill
Mar 18 16:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons let me guess. don't spoil it for me.
Mar 18 16:24:39 <kakobrekla>	jeez
Mar 18 16:24:44 <jurov>	kako, what other are you missing then?
Mar 18 16:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	they're either a. going to be the new coinlab or else b. going to be the larger bitfloor
Mar 18 16:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	which is it ?
Mar 18 16:25:01 <pigeons>	they intend to be a
Mar 18 16:25:20 <pigeons>	The new site goes live today with a new business-focused product dubbed “Prime.”
Mar 18 16:25:31 <kakobrekla>	jurov the side of giving the lashing you know
Mar 18 16:25:42 <pigeons>	"Singer said the company made the decision to keep the Tradehill name as it’s an “established brand” with a strong network."
Mar 18 16:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla btw, diod you see the idiot who sent btc to primeasic ?
Mar 18 16:25:57 <kakobrekla>	i did not!?
Mar 18 16:26:01 <kakobrekla>	dis a joke?
Mar 18 16:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	dig the thread.
Mar 18 16:26:05 <mircea_popescu>	its for reals.
Mar 18 16:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons wait, singer ? who ?
Mar 18 16:26:59 <pigeons>	http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/18/embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back/
Mar 18 16:27:08 <kakobrekla>	makes me sick, the name.
Mar 18 16:27:13 <pigeons>	we already made fun of it
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Mar 18 16:28:06 <pigeons>	there's not even any reading between the lines to find the true stupid, its explicit
Mar 18 16:28:11 <kakobrekla>	gotta love the free market!
Mar 18 16:29:39 <jurov>	I am User 472 on the bitcoin pyramid wich was a tradehill acount address... ( I stupidly used you as a wallet )
Mar 18 16:29:44 <jurov>	oh noooo
Mar 18 16:29:53 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Mar 18 16:30:41 <pigeons>	so will non us/canada folk be able to trade btc/usd on mtgox without the traders having an account/relationship with coinlol?
Mar 18 16:31:04 <kakobrekla>	afaik no
Mar 18 16:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons only if they have good personal / otc relationships with actual people in actual countries.
Mar 18 16:31:17 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Mar 18 16:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, i would say this is the largest degradation of personal status us citizens have suffered to date.
Mar 18 16:31:59 <pigeons>	maybe then tradehill hopes to get some of the flight capital in those mtgusd codes since they are deprecated and in a few weeks the codes discontinued
Mar 18 16:32:22 <jurov>	everyone who wants to continue using mtgox will be required to file SEC papers. in person.
Mar 18 16:32:23 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: non-us/canada
Mar 18 16:32:47 <pigeons>	i mean will say, eurpoeans be able to trade btc/usd on gox, or will gox not offer trading in that currency
Mar 18 16:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you seen that scene in black cat / white cat when the fat singer woman delivers the irs nail ?
Mar 18 16:33:18 <jurov>	prolly not
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Mar 18 16:33:39 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons ahaha mtgox a market for eurodollars
Mar 18 16:34:06 <pigeons>	well they arent really spelling much out
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Mar 18 16:34:24 <kakobrekla>	ah i missed the 'non' too
Mar 18 16:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	jurov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7CQ19uNF28 ~4 min
Mar 18 16:34:36 <kakobrekla>	as long as you comply it should work
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Mar 18 16:35:33 <pigeons>	coinlab was sucessful with their nonsense pr spin, a lot of people in otc and the forums (yeah i know) are totally convinced that coinlab is allowing all americans to buy bitcoins at their neighborhood bank
Mar 18 16:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	ya well... good for 'em.
Mar 18 16:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	as long as they don't get any dough that conviction will stand
Mar 18 16:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, gemma godfrey retweeted me.
Mar 18 16:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	that chick is hawt.
Mar 18 16:39:56 <dub>	hotter side on
Mar 18 16:40:03 <dub>	and she knows this
Mar 18 16:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	well... she'd be stupid not to.
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Mar 18 16:43:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0051 = 7.65 BTC [+]
Mar 18 16:43:29 <dub>	I don't know if I'm hotter side on
Mar 18 16:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.532 = 2.66 BTC [+]
Mar 18 16:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	you're not a woman.
Mar 18 16:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0051 = 2.55 BTC [+]
Mar 18 16:45:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.870899 BTC [+]
Mar 18 16:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5301 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 16:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	lmao @us feds. "weev can do arithmetics. clearly special skills"
Mar 18 16:53:57 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 18 16:53:58 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004501 / 0.00506929 / 0.0051 (6827 shares, 34.61 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514093 / 0.00599987 (75748 shares, 389.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609766 / 0.0069 (2301468 shares, 14,033.57 BTC)
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Mar 18 16:56:14 <deadweasel>	poor fuckin weev, he's a dumbass, but not 41 months in prison dumb-ass
Mar 18 16:56:36 <deadweasel>	think an appeal will do him any good?
Mar 18 16:56:41 <kakobrekla>	who is weev
Mar 18 16:56:46 <deadweasel>	seems they have their man for pinning computer crime on.
Mar 18 16:56:48 <deadweasel>	standby
Mar 18 16:57:21 <pigeons>	yeah i had to google it too
Mar 18 16:57:27 <deadweasel>	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/andrew-weev-auernheimer_n_2900387.html
Mar 18 16:57:34 <deadweasel>	i hate huff-po but it's up to date
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Mar 18 16:58:23 <mircea_popescu>	the gay nigger association president guy
Mar 18 16:58:28 <pigeons>	i'll stick with wikipedia for my politically biased information
Mar 18 16:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	basically all the faggots and niggers in the us govt are a little sore in the bum.
Mar 18 16:59:00 <kakobrekla>	a light penalty for owning apple imho
Mar 18 16:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Mar 18 16:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	he... owned it, not owned it :D
Mar 18 16:59:46 <benkay>	idiots everywhere
Mar 18 16:59:51 <benkay>	wtf hacker and not tor
Mar 18 17:00:09 <kakobrekla>	i mean for apple owners
Mar 18 17:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	benkay he didn't hack it tho.
Mar 18 17:00:22 <kakobrekla>	more apropriate would be for their devices to assplode
Mar 18 17:00:27 <benkay>	i can read.
Mar 18 17:00:32 <benkay>	some days.
Mar 18 17:00:35 <deadweasel>	benkay: i don't get it either, no tor, he's kind of a twat
Mar 18 17:00:44 <benkay>	but he voluntarily doxed himself
Mar 18 17:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Mar 18 17:00:58 <benkay>	and then went to jail
Mar 18 17:01:15 <benkay>	if you're going to publish vulnerabilities in the systems run by the companies that run the usg
Mar 18 17:01:23 <benkay>	best to not idiot.
Mar 18 17:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	ya well... he's charged with breaking and entering except hte place had no lock or walls.
Mar 18 17:01:45 <kakobrekla>	esp not in the us.
Mar 18 17:01:49 <benkay>	but apparently can't in2 power structure theory
Mar 18 17:01:56 <benkay>	doesn't matter
Mar 18 17:01:56 <deadweasel>	is there a 'safe' way to do so?  Like the administration of security and silicon
Mar 18 17:01:59 <deadweasel>	or ASS
Mar 18 17:02:06 <benkay>	law doesn't care about actual laws
Mar 18 17:02:15 <deadweasel>	could i go up to ASS and offer up a vuln?
Mar 18 17:02:15 <benkay>	at least in this country
Mar 18 17:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	ya but i dopn't care what the law cares or not about.
Mar 18 17:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	two can play the game.
Mar 18 17:02:37 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 18 17:02:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.18997, Best ask: 48.41900, Bid-ask spread: 0.22903, Last trade: 48.18997, 24 hour volume: 35238.49364250, 24 hour low: 47.11111, 24 hour high: 48.88300, 24 hour vwap: 47.99086
Mar 18 17:02:46 <pigeons>	i dont care what mircea_popescu cares about what the law cares about
Mar 18 17:03:03 <benkay>	all that I'm saying is that he's a moron for not protecting his identity while trolling at the leviathan.
Mar 18 17:03:07 <smickles>	;;asks 50
Mar 18 17:03:10 <benkay>	-> trolling the leviathan.
Mar 18 17:03:11 <smickles>	;;asks 49
Mar 18 17:03:13 <deadweasel>	and I don't care what pigeons cares about what mircea_popescu about what the law cares about
Mar 18 17:03:13 <gribble>	There are currently 24049.14 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 1194209.0516 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Mar 18 17:03:14 <gribble>	There are currently 4805.0265 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 234597.12888 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0055 seconds
Mar 18 17:03:23 <pigeons>	what fun is it to troll from behind a mask
Mar 18 17:03:32 <benkay>	ask 4chan
Mar 18 17:03:38 <kakobrekla>	or anon
Mar 18 17:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	benkay where did you get this idea the us govt is powerful, or respectable or something ?
Mar 18 17:04:06 <smickles>	4chan isn't fun, 4chan is like a beetle who fell into boiling water
Mar 18 17:04:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8294 @ 0.00073964 = 6.1346 BTC [+]
Mar 18 17:04:16 <mircea_popescu>	aww poor beetle!
Mar 18 17:04:17 <deadweasel>	anyway, it's a bad precedent.  it should scare everyone.
Mar 18 17:04:19 <smickles>	it knows something is wrong, prolly doesn't feel pain, then dies
Mar 18 17:04:20 <benkay>	the idea i have is that the usg is a tool our corporations use to maintain the status quo.
Mar 18 17:04:36 <deadweasel>	we use computers, they are putting people in jail who use them stupidly. most people are stupid.
Mar 18 17:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	time for a little
Mar 18 17:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;google the crime of being american
Mar 18 17:04:43 <gribble>	America's Real Criminal Element: Lead | Mother Jones: <http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-link-gasoline>; Crime in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States>; Laila al-Marayati and Basil Abdelkarim - The Crime of Being a ...: <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- (1 more message)
Mar 18 17:04:52 <mircea_popescu>	omfg i r censorated!
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Mar 18 17:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/
Mar 18 17:05:21 <deadweasel>	so most people will eventually be in jail, in the country with the largest prison population.
Mar 18 17:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	old -assets log.
Mar 18 17:05:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 17:09:15 <deadweasel>	yeah, that's about right, and why people should be pissed off about weev
Mar 18 17:09:28 <deadweasel>	good explanatory cartoon
Mar 18 17:09:36 <mircea_popescu>	guy is smart
Mar 18 17:09:46 <mircea_popescu>	is virwox dead ?
Mar 18 17:10:01 <zerokwel>	the escape films come to mind :)
Mar 18 17:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	a just very slow
Mar 18 17:10:09 <pigeons>	virwox is working
Mar 18 17:10:14 <zerokwel>	escape from la / new yourk
Mar 18 17:10:18 <zerokwel>	york
Mar 18 17:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	Q : is there any stop order system for trading at mtgox? A : We do not offer such possibility as of yet but probably in the future.
Mar 18 17:10:36 *	mircea_popescu remembers how mtgox was launching options in 2011
Mar 18 17:10:54 <pigeons>	goat brings litecoin to wall street
Mar 18 17:11:01 <kakobrekla>	whatever they do is gonna suck
Mar 18 17:11:04 <benkay>	so, fine, the law is used to jail people indiscriminately. the powers that be here use this to their advantage to jail anyone who does things they dislike.
Mar 18 17:11:10 <kakobrekla>	the correct thing is to put btc in MT4 or some such
Mar 18 17:11:25 <pigeons>	MT5
Mar 18 17:11:26 <benkay>	didn't learn anything new there.
Mar 18 17:11:43 <kakobrekla>	MT5 is kinda not popular for live trading yet
Mar 18 17:11:51 <kakobrekla>	at least so i hear from the pros
Mar 18 17:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	benkay you learned that you're a bad person for being american.
Mar 18 17:11:59 <pigeons>	seems so kakobrekla
Mar 18 17:12:00 <benkay>	ff i hang out here
Mar 18 17:12:03 <benkay>	knew that too
Mar 18 17:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	well then it's all old news
Mar 18 17:12:19 <benkay>	well, knew you think that.
Mar 18 17:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	"Thank you for your message. We are currently experiencing delays on EUR transfers of up to two weeks for larger transfers because of the daily limits imposed by our bank in Europe. "
Mar 18 17:13:20 <kakobrekla>	gox = fucked
Mar 18 17:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	coinlab should open a european subsidiary. problem solved.
Mar 18 17:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	i hear good things about cyprus offshore banking.
Mar 18 17:13:50 <deadweasel>	only Weev has an appeal left, that's new news, the interesting kind, especially if you live in America and don't want your door kicked in for 'computer crime'
Mar 18 17:14:10 <smickles>	kakobrekla: have someone buy your mtgoxeur cupon codes?
Mar 18 17:14:23 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 17:14:23 <gribble>	0.045015 seconds
Mar 18 17:14:25 <kakobrekla>	i dont have that issue
Mar 18 17:15:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000674 = 0.002 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:15:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000674 = 0.002 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:15:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3393 @ 0.00073964 = 2.5096 BTC [+]
Mar 18 17:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3097 @ 0.00071871 = 2.2258 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:16:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 44 @ 0.000673 = 0.0296 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:16:31 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 18 17:16:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004501 / 0.00506929 / 0.0051 (6827 shares, 34.61 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514093 / 0.00599987 (75748 shares, 389.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609766 / 0.0069 (2301468 shares, 14,033.57 BTC)
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Mar 18 17:17:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000673 = 0.0067 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:17:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 17:18:53 <pigeons>	which will be more successful, coinlab or http://satoshiroulette.com/index2.php?mode=NVC
Mar 18 17:18:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.005 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 17:20:53 <pigeons>	or tradehill
Mar 18 17:21:07 <pigeons>	or the unnoffical fanclub of ognasty
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Mar 18 17:22:58 <Chaang-Noi>	48.5 :)
Mar 18 17:25:14 <vampireb>	lets if breaks 50
Mar 18 17:25:19 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 50
Mar 18 17:25:20 <pigeons>	"Tradehill was the first institution in the Bitcoin market to hold millions of dollars in user funds and process full payouts. Every other Bitcoin company that achieved scale either lost money in a hack or went insolvent."
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Mar 18 17:25:27 <gribble>	There are currently 24220.821 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 1202584.23481 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
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Mar 18 17:25:47 <pigeons>	so tradehill wasn't insolvent, they just ran out of money
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Mar 18 17:28:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.00821 = 0.0164 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:28:02 <pigeons>	and not a lot of difference if you lose money in a hack or in a chargeback
Mar 18 17:34:12 <Chaang-Noi>	did they even fully pay back?
Mar 18 17:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons what asshats lmao
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Mar 18 17:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how long before bitcoin wanna-be entrepreneurs learn that lieing is not pr.
Mar 18 17:36:30 <kakobrekla>	so who want to do currenex for btc with me so i can plug in mt
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Mar 18 17:37:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154566.0 youi still on btcjam ?
Mar 18 17:38:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 4 @ 0.19918847 = 0.7968 BTC [+]
Mar 18 17:39:27 <kakobrekla>	i promisse its not gonna be php
Mar 18 17:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/283/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-hit-50-in-march/#c385
Mar 18 17:40:02 <Chaang-Noi>	<pigeons> goat brings litecoin to wall street    lol
Mar 18 17:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	inquiring minds wish to know
Mar 18 17:41:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1 @ 0.08375067 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:41:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1 @ 0.10400065 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 1 @ 0.0640216 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:41:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 253 @ 0.000673 = 0.1703 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:41:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 37 @ 0.000673 = 0.0249 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:41:35 <Chaang-Noi>	not sure if wall streat is ready yet for the power of ltc :)
Mar 18 17:42:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:42:18 <kakobrekla>	lulz the coin?
Mar 18 17:43:29 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 18 17:43:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.50025, Best ask: 48.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14975, Last trade: 48.65000, 24 hour volume: 36380.14935109, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 48.88300, 24 hour vwap: 48.01748
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Mar 18 17:44:28 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: no i never found anything on btcjam it was just for comedy, but its all reruns
Mar 18 17:44:29 <Chaang-Noi>	you ever get on that rocket kako :)
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Mar 18 17:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 18 17:45:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.90000, Best ask: 48.95775, Bid-ask spread: 0.05775, Last trade: 48.90000, 24 hour volume: 39353.49357783, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.07990
Mar 18 17:45:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.02101723 * 48.07990
Mar 18 17:45:34 <gribble>	1.01050631668
Mar 18 17:45:46 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 49.2
Mar 18 17:45:53 <gribble>	There are currently 1875.6022 bitcoins offered at or under 49.2 USD, worth 92021.233743 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
Mar 18 17:46:08 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi how much you put down for ltc is above 0.01 btc at the end of 2013
Mar 18 17:46:44 <Chaang-Noi>	what?
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Mar 18 17:47:07 <Chaang-Noi>	iv sold 75k above .01 this year
Mar 18 17:47:13 <Chaang-Noi>	a bit more than that
Mar 18 17:47:18 <Chaang-Noi>	why do you ask?
Mar 18 17:47:30 <kakobrekla>	yeah, my guess is its below 0.01 at the end of the year
Mar 18 17:47:44 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, what do i think the price will be?
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Mar 18 17:47:55 <kakobrekla>	was wondering if youd bet on that since you seem to be lite jesus
Mar 18 17:48:07 <Chaang-Noi>	good question but if i were to bet on even odds i would say over .01
Mar 18 17:48:15 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah ill make a bet with you
Mar 18 17:48:23 <kakobrekla>	bitbet
Mar 18 17:48:26 <Chaang-Noi>	lite jesus, lol
Mar 18 17:48:40 <Chaang-Noi>	oh no, im not going to do bitbet, ill makea bet with you personally if you want
Mar 18 17:48:52 <mod6>	wat
Mar 18 17:49:26 <pigeons>	i bet matthew n wright pays
Mar 18 17:49:29 <Chaang-Noi>	btw im no where near the largest ltc holder, wish i was :)
Mar 18 17:49:44 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons i hope so, he owes me 5000 ltc:)
Mar 18 17:49:47 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean btc
Mar 18 17:50:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:50:15 <Chaang-Noi>	cognitive was just at .11
Mar 18 17:50:26 <kakobrekla>	nature is amazing.
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Mar 18 17:50:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]
Mar 18 17:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 12450 @ 0.0018 = 22.41 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 17:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	bbet ftw
Mar 18 17:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	so people ask me "ok 1 dollar buys 1000 trilema credits, but how many credits do you need to read an article ?"
Mar 18 17:51:52 <Chaang-Noi>	problem with bitbet is you have no idea what the odds are when the bet ends
Mar 18 17:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	and i answer. "one".
Mar 18 17:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	why isn't this obvious tho ?!
Mar 18 17:52:18 <pigeons>	nope not obvious
Mar 18 17:52:50 <mircea_popescu>	why not tho ?!
Mar 18 17:53:16 <pigeons>	cause when you make an assumption, you make an ass out of u and umption
Mar 18 17:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so...
Mar 18 17:53:42 <Chaang-Noi>	ath?????
Mar 18 17:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	still... i mean notionally. "a credit". well... a credit to what 1/3 read ?
Mar 18 17:53:55 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 18 17:53:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.90013, Best ask: 48.99239, Bid-ask spread: 0.09226, Last trade: 48.99239, 24 hour volume: 39722.91241967, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.09012
Mar 18 17:54:12 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 18 17:54:19 <Chaang-Noi>	dis bot slow?
Mar 18 17:54:41 <pigeons>	i always wondered, now i know 1 credit per article
Mar 18 17:54:51 <Chaang-Noi>	Mar18 21:54:20 mtgox     x11   211.8929 @    49.1439944  USD
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Mar 18 17:55:06 <Chaang-Noi>	high was 49.09 right?
Mar 18 17:55:17 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 17:55:17 <mircea_popescu>	i see it at 49 even
Mar 18 17:55:17 <gribble>	15.396683 seconds
Mar 18 17:55:18 <pigeons>	i probably would have bought some in the past if a btc address was generated automatically, but i aint gonna email someone to get an address for his blog
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Mar 18 17:55:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i saw it trade at 49.15
Mar 18 17:55:44 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i got too lazy to implement bitpay or w./e the solution is
Mar 18 17:56:09 <kakobrekla>	oh a nice 15 sec
Mar 18 17:56:18 <kakobrekla>	doing well today!
Mar 18 17:56:33 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 17:56:33 <gribble>	38.859968 seconds
Mar 18 17:56:36 <deadweasel>	ha
Mar 18 17:56:40 <deadweasel>	love this
Mar 18 17:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	lew rockwell : "This proves that the licensing was – and always will be – a scheme merely to fill government coiffures."
Mar 18 17:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	isn't he adorable ?
Mar 18 17:56:57 <deadweasel>	someone just buys it all up at once, after no volume at all
Mar 18 17:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	coiffures!
Mar 18 17:57:18 <benkay>	heh
Mar 18 17:57:22 <benkay>	i want to fill the government hair.
Mar 18 17:57:41 <deadweasel>	um, with what, benkay?
Mar 18 17:57:52 <benkay>	use your imagination, deadweasel.
Mar 18 17:57:54 <deadweasel>	mp might make a video of you doing it
Mar 18 17:58:00 <deadweasel>	and chargeyou to watch it
Mar 18 17:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136342487995.jpg illustration.
Mar 18 17:58:32 <deadweasel>	right, that's the ticket
Mar 18 17:59:16 <kakobrekla>	ejacualtion killed her?
Mar 18 17:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla if you fuck a girl long enough, eventually she enters this zombie state
Mar 18 17:59:39 <deadweasel>	remove the question mark and that's your title
Mar 18 18:00:22 <Chaang-Noi>	49.64     )
Mar 18 18:00:38 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 50
Mar 18 18:00:39 <gribble>	There are currently 15706.82 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 784550.15041 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.4370 seconds
Mar 18 18:00:39 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 18 18:01:12 <Chaang-Noi>	if we eat 50 no stopping us until 80
Mar 18 18:01:20 <deadweasel>	kakobrekla, that's a hell of a wall at 50
Mar 18 18:01:32 <kakobrekla>	well dude's got balls
Mar 18 18:01:55 <Chaang-Noi>	49.7
Mar 18 18:02:21 <deadweasel>	"/msg Chaang-Noi ;;ticker"
Mar 18 18:02:33 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 18 18:02:34 <gribble>	1 BTC = 48.99239 U.S. dollars = 37.7852769 Euros
Mar 18 18:02:47 <Uglux>	what was the ATH exactly?
Mar 18 18:02:50 <deadweasel>	jk Chaang-Noi
Mar 18 18:02:52 <Chaang-Noi>	;D im happy at ATH'z
Mar 18 18:03:02 <Chaang-Noi>	ATH is all time high
Mar 18 18:03:24 <Uglux>	yeaaa, the number plz
Mar 18 18:03:32 <Chaang-Noi>	49.7
Mar 18 18:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla who actually can take out 3/4 mn usd fgrom mthox ?
Mar 18 18:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	it would take what, 2-3 years to make it through ?
Mar 18 18:03:59 <deadweasel>	;;yeaaa, the number plz
Mar 18 18:04:00 <gribble>	Error: "yeaaa," is not a valid command.
Mar 18 18:04:12 <Bugpowder>	they raised my limit to 50k overnight
Mar 18 18:04:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	50k < 783k
Mar 18 18:04:43 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu i dunno, but it has to be done
Mar 18 18:04:54 <Chaang-Noi>	total bid: 8,389,663 USD | total ask: 82,782 BTC | ratio: 101.35 USD/BTC
Mar 18 18:05:26 <Bugpowder>	Trusted accounts can withdraw 50k at a time, 500k / mo
Mar 18 18:05:45 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker --last
Mar 18 18:05:47 <gribble>	48.99239
Mar 18 18:06:06 <Chaang-Noi>	crash, back down to 32 :)
Mar 18 18:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	its incredible just how inadequate fiat is when one looks from the vantage of btc
Mar 18 18:07:50 <Bugpowder>	correction $100k max wire size per day with trusted
Mar 18 18:08:05 <deadweasel>	you should tell sgornick that mp
Mar 18 18:08:10 <deadweasel>	he would smile
Mar 18 18:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
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Mar 18 18:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder ya but how long it actually takes is the q.
Mar 18 18:08:46 <Chaang-Noi>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 18:08:47 <gribble>	37.90441 seconds
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Mar 18 18:09:07 <Bugpowder>	Sub 10k wires have been arriving in 48 hours for me
Mar 18 18:09:16 <Bugpowder>	100k might take 2 weeks
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Mar 18 18:09:28 <Bugpowder>	or 2 days
Mar 18 18:10:19 <Chaang-Noi>	you buying at these prices bug?
Mar 18 18:11:01 <Bugpowder>	no
Mar 18 18:11:06 <Bugpowder>	I have some coins there
Mar 18 18:11:11 <Bugpowder>	but I just want to get my Tesla
Mar 18 18:11:13 <Bugpowder>	:)
Mar 18 18:11:18 <Chaang-Noi>	nice
Mar 18 18:11:20 <Bugpowder>	I mean my fiat there
Mar 18 18:11:22 <mircea_popescu>	haha he's buying a new juicer
Mar 18 18:11:48 <Bugpowder>	I think I'm holding the rest
Mar 18 18:11:53 <Bugpowder>	for a while
Mar 18 18:12:16 <Bugpowder>	No matter what happens now, I made at least 18x.
Mar 18 18:12:34 <Bugpowder>	Hopefully coins continue to rise
Mar 18 18:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	18x is a good make to make.
Mar 18 18:13:06 <deadweasel>	well i hope you started with a lot!
Mar 18 18:13:06 <Bugpowder>	Every 5-10 years there is an investment that is just so fucking obvious
Mar 18 18:13:13 <Bugpowder>	You gotta pull the trigger
Mar 18 18:13:34 <Bugpowder>	Bitcoins at $2, after being at $31, was a great example
Mar 18 18:13:45 <toffoo>	things always look obvious in retrospect    ;)
Mar 18 18:14:15 <Bugpowder>	It seemed obvious then
Mar 18 18:14:21 <Bugpowder>	from a risk reward
Mar 18 18:14:28 <Bugpowder>	not obvious that it was going to 50
Mar 18 18:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	it did seem obvious.
Mar 18 18:14:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.000697 = 4.9487 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:14:57 <Bugpowder>	but an EV analysis I drew up showed something like 5-10x EV
Mar 18 18:15:07 <Bugpowder>	which was clearly too conservative
Mar 18 18:15:34 <Bugpowder>	Sorta like F at $1.
Mar 18 18:15:47 <Bugpowder>	It wasn't obvious it would bounce to $15
Mar 18 18:15:51 <toffoo>	i wouldn't call that one obvious ...
Mar 18 18:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.0018 = 9 BTC [+]
Mar 18 18:15:58 <Bugpowder>	but EV was positive
Mar 18 18:16:01 <deadweasel>	F?
Mar 18 18:16:04 <mod6>	ford
Mar 18 18:16:04 <Bugpowder>	Ford
Mar 18 18:16:10 <deadweasel>	da
Mar 18 18:16:10 <toffoo>	it's two competitors were bankrupt and under the government's control
Mar 18 18:16:18 <Bugpowder>	I did not pull the trigger there.
Mar 18 18:16:34 <toffoo>	maybe you know more about the car business than the average guy
Mar 18 18:16:35 <pigeons>	need a fan club passthrough for this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147552.msg1566741#msg1566741
Mar 18 18:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Mar 18 18:16:56 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)
Mar 18 18:17:01 <Bugpowder>	Friend of dad who had lost most of his money in the market did an EV analysis...  Went all in with the rest of life savings
Mar 18 18:17:08 <Bugpowder>	made it all back.
Mar 18 18:17:12 <mircea_popescu>	o srsly ?
Mar 18 18:17:12 <Bugpowder>	hail mary play
Mar 18 18:17:22 <mircea_popescu>	cool!
Mar 18 18:17:22 <Bugpowder>	on F
Mar 18 18:17:28 <Bugpowder>	He sold at 4.
Mar 18 18:17:30 <Bugpowder>	heheheh
Mar 18 18:17:37 <Bugpowder>	oops
Mar 18 18:17:44 <mircea_popescu>	o lol
Mar 18 18:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons he has the right idea, borrow the bubble.
Mar 18 18:18:07 <Bugpowder>	dinnertime
Mar 18 18:18:22 <deadweasel>	4x
Mar 18 18:18:29 <deadweasel>	vs 18x
Mar 18 18:18:32 <deadweasel>	enjoy you dinner!
Mar 18 18:18:35 <deadweasel>	*r
Mar 18 18:19:09 <Bugpowder>	deadweasel: max(18x, 18x+n*x) where n =[0-1000]
Mar 18 18:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	venturebeat : embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back. matonis : Tradehill Launches As Bitcoin Exchange For Businesses And Accredited Investors
Mar 18 18:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	i guess optimism is a wonderful gift.
Mar 18 18:19:41 <deadweasel>	right, his was free
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Mar 18 18:21:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1 @ 0.12177158 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:21:22 <Chaang-Noi>	mp in a bull market it is
Mar 18 18:22:10 <kakobrekla>	no no Chaang-Noi
Mar 18 18:22:13 <kakobrekla>	its 'irrational'.
Mar 18 18:22:36 <Chaang-Noi>	some times better to be lucky/crazy than smart
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Mar 18 18:23:54 <mod6>	Krugman and Bernanke have phd's lol
Mar 18 18:24:03 <pigeons>	wtf is a curation consultant
Mar 18 18:24:41 <Chaang-Noi>	no idea
Mar 18 18:24:48 <jurov>	;;bc,convert, eur
Mar 18 18:24:48 <gribble>	Error: "bc,convert," is not a valid command.
Mar 18 18:24:52 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 18 18:24:53 <gribble>	1 BTC = 49.49002 U.S. dollars = 38.169073 Euros
Mar 18 18:24:54 <pigeons>	smells like something a ycombinator company would have
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Mar 18 18:26:01 <smickles>	did we pop 50 or something?
Mar 18 18:26:04 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 18 18:26:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.26107, Best ask: 49.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.22893, Last trade: 49.26107, 24 hour volume: 45708.72214983, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.26314
Mar 18 18:26:20 <jurov>	;;asks 50
Mar 18 18:26:20 <gribble>	There are currently 15875.704 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 792726.780924 USD in total. | Data vintage: 117.4680 seconds
Mar 18 18:26:22 <deadweasel>	bugpowder:  http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP206621f5c2f1db8535a3000038g4ed53b9h0cdgd?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=48&w=367.&h=57.
Mar 18 18:27:11 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 18 18:27:13 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 40.34905862 high: 57.74756063 low: 37.79100251 volume: 35646 btc: 4872.55462737 30 day: no data
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Mar 18 18:27:45 <Chaang-Noi>	less than a million of soon to be fiat to go
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Mar 18 18:33:41 <jurov>	$markov
Mar 18 18:33:41 <mpexbot>	but... i saw porn on there :(
Mar 18 18:33:54 <jurov>	you bet
Mar 18 18:35:38 <smickles>	$markov jurov
Mar 18 18:35:38 <mpexbot>	jurov because a. its much easier to parse and b. because the bot
Mar 18 18:36:09 <jurov>	$markov smickles
Mar 18 18:36:10 <mpexbot>	smickles that film... you should totally watch it.
Mar 18 18:36:29 <jurov>	$markov s.dice
Mar 18 18:36:29 <mpexbot>	jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 18 18:36:33 <smickles>	it'll get better with time
Mar 18 18:36:45 <pigeons>	$markov zhoutong
Mar 18 18:36:45 <mpexbot>	pigeons: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 18 18:36:51 <jurov>	i hope for succinct prediction :/
Mar 18 18:37:01 <Bugpowder>	deadweasel: ok.....
Mar 18 18:37:02 <smickles>	$markov [MPEX:S.DICE]
Mar 18 18:37:03 <mpexbot>	smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 18 18:37:21 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder: yeah, no I have no idea at all
Mar 18 18:37:21 <jurov>	$markov eskimobob
Mar 18 18:37:22 <mpexbot>	jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 18 18:37:26 <smickles>	$markov [MPEX] [S.DICE]
Mar 18 18:37:26 <mpexbot>	smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 18 18:37:30 <smickles>	bah
Mar 18 18:37:30 <jurov>	i broke it
Mar 18 18:38:19 <smickles>	$markov i hope
Mar 18 18:38:19 <mpexbot>	smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 18 18:38:27 <smickles>	D:
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Mar 18 18:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1 @ 0.06562237 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 18:39:21 <smickles>	;;calc 51 - 1.065
Mar 18 18:39:22 <gribble>	49.935
Mar 18 18:39:32 <smickles>	er, wrong one
Mar 18 18:39:44 <smickles>	;;calc 51/(1-.065)
Mar 18 18:39:45 <gribble>	54.5454545455
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Mar 18 18:41:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 18 18:41:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 18 18:41:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.49999, Best ask: 49.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 49.49999, 24 hour volume: 47889.07477187, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.32588
Mar 18 18:41:24 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6247626.80304 based on data since last change | 6547204.92104 based on data for last three days
Mar 18 18:41:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 1 @ 0.08408666 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:41:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00431 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:41:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0043 = 0.086 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:41:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00426 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:41:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.0041 = 0.0369 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:42:26 <smickles>	;;calc 49/(1/.084)
Mar 18 18:42:26 <gribble>	4.116
Mar 18 18:42:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.334 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:42:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3337 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:42:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3332 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:42:31 <smickles>	;;calc 49/(1-.084)
Mar 18 18:42:31 <gribble>	53.4934497817
Mar 18 18:43:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.000697 = 3.3456 BTC [-]
Mar 18 18:44:03 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 18 18:44:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.50001, Best ask: 49.50002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 49.50002, 24 hour volume: 48101.89622656, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.33148
Mar 18 18:45:43 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 18 18:45:45 <gribble>	47.96
Mar 18 18:46:01 <smickles>	;;calc [bc,24hprc]/[ticker --last]
Mar 18 18:46:02 <gribble>	0.968888693154
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Mar 18 18:47:25 <smickles>	at what point do we start seeing that 'buy/sell out mpoebot' trader
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Mar 18 18:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13443 @ 0.000697 = 9.3698 BTC [-]
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Mar 18 18:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/steganography-or-the-simple-yet-strong-brain-wallet/
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Mar 18 18:56:24 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: dammit man, stop publishing my ideas
Mar 18 18:56:34 <smickles>	;)
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Mar 18 18:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Mar 18 18:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	strawberries smickles
Mar 18 18:59:35 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: this is all getting into indiana jones territory. soon enough you'll have to be at 'the spot where the sun is at such an angel in sky on this day of the year and casts a shadow to your feet. turn left, take a pic of the mountian and pump that pic into the script where you enter "david duchovny" 6 times'
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Mar 18 18:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	absolutely.
Mar 18 19:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is - among other things - bringing pirate maps back
Mar 18 19:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	i loved those when i was 12
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Mar 18 19:06:37 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 18 19:06:42 <kakobrekla>	plot gets thinner
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Mar 18 19:07:09 <mod6>	(16:00) < mircea_popescu> bitcoin is - among other things - bringing pirate maps back << YES!!
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Mar 18 19:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	:D
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Mar 18 19:09:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10110 @ 0.00071781 = 7.2571 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 19:11:06 <pigeons>	https://sites.google.com/site/buriedkeys/
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Mar 18 19:13:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:13:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.71230, Best ask: 49.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08770, Last trade: 49.71230, 24 hour volume: 49314.22508067, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.80000, 24 hour vwap: 48.37025
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Mar 18 19:14:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 49.99
Mar 18 19:14:07 <gribble>	There are currently 1456.6221 bitcoins offered at or under 49.99 USD, worth 72734.4782962 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.4732 seconds
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Mar 18 19:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154518.msg1638361#msg1638361
Mar 18 19:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
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Mar 18 19:16:58 <mod6>	that's neat pigeons
Mar 18 19:18:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:18:10 <smickles>	;;asks 49.99
Mar 18 19:18:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.71230, Best ask: 49.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08770, Last trade: 49.71230, 24 hour volume: 49314.22508067, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.80000, 24 hour vwap: 48.37025
Mar 18 19:18:13 <gribble>	There are currently 384.75233 bitcoins offered at or under 49.99 USD, worth 19225.9672632 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.3233 seconds
Mar 18 19:18:30 <smickles>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 19:18:31 <gribble>	5.363153 seconds
Mar 18 19:18:38 <ThickAsThieves>	49.95
Mar 18 19:18:55 <ThickAsThieves>	.97
Mar 18 19:18:56 <ThickAsThieves>	.98
Mar 18 19:18:59 <ThickAsThieves>	.99
Mar 18 19:19:09 <ThickAsThieves>	50
Mar 18 19:19:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:19:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
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Mar 18 19:19:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:19:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
Mar 18 19:20:04 <ThickAsThieves>	saw 50 on coinlab ticker
Mar 18 19:20:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:20:28 <dub>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:20:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
Mar 18 19:20:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
Mar 18 19:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	fancy wallstreet prices
Mar 18 19:20:39 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 18 19:20:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1 @ 0.10841351 BTC [-]
Mar 18 19:20:46 <dub>	says 50 on goxlive
Mar 18 19:20:58 <smickles>	;;calc 1/(1-.1084)
Mar 18 19:20:59 <gribble>	1.12157918349
Mar 18 19:21:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 19:21:00 <gribble>	46.263792 seconds
Mar 18 19:21:06 <smickles>	;;calc 47/(1-.1084)
Mar 18 19:21:07 <gribble>	52.714221624
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Mar 18 19:22:56 <deadweasel>	was the solution for sdice to split off transactions into entire blocks?
Mar 18 19:23:21 <deadweasel>	that's what it looks like on https://blockchain.info/
Mar 18 19:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:23:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
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Mar 18 19:25:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1 @ 0.13772223 BTC [+]
Mar 18 19:26:10 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:26:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496
Mar 18 19:26:14 <ThickAsThieves>	50.01
Mar 18 19:26:24 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 18 19:27:11 <deadweasel>	it almost feels like classical conditioning
Mar 18 19:27:15 <deadweasel>	these waves in prices
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Mar 18 19:27:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.0007453 = 3.6967 BTC [+]
Mar 18 19:27:40 <Bugpowder>	Poppin bottles!
Mar 18 19:27:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 18 19:28:07 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:28:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496
Mar 18 19:29:02 <Bugpowder>	wat?
Mar 18 19:29:09 <Bugpowder>	I'm seeing 50.05
Mar 18 19:29:27 <pizzaman1337>	market manipulation!
Mar 18 19:29:32 <kakobrekla>	gribble iz slow
Mar 18 19:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 8 @ 0.0441449 = 0.3532 BTC [-]
Mar 18 19:30:04 <Bugpowder>	I assume there is some panic buying goxlag
Mar 18 19:30:11 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin charts has it at 50.20
Mar 18 19:30:24 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 19:30:25 <gribble>	44.343507 seconds
Mar 18 19:30:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8402 BTC [-]
Mar 18 19:30:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8401 = 3.3604 BTC [-]
Mar 18 19:30:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.84 = 5.04 BTC [-]
Mar 18 19:30:41 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:30:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496
Mar 18 19:30:55 <Bugpowder>	heh... that is STALE
Mar 18 19:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.10675 = 26.6875 BTC [+]
Mar 18 19:32:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 750 @ 0.10948345 = 82.1126 BTC [+]
Mar 18 19:33:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.10948345 = 27.3709 BTC [+]
Mar 18 19:33:33 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 19:33:34 <gribble>	0.360978 seconds
Mar 18 19:34:07 <kakobrekla>	;;cakc ;;goxlag/3600
Mar 18 19:34:07 <gribble>	Error: "cakc" is not a valid command.
Mar 18 19:34:12 <kakobrekla>	for more convinient format
Mar 18 19:34:29 <kakobrekla>	cakc right.
Mar 18 19:34:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 500 @ 0.12927863 = 64.6393 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 19:35:56 <Bowjob>	meow
Mar 18 19:35:59 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:35:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.00001, Best ask: 51.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 51.00000, 24 hour volume: 59546.54465887, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 51.01000, 24 hour vwap: 48.67395
Mar 18 19:36:07 <Bowjob>	*yawn
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Mar 18 19:36:21 <pizzaman1337>	$51? zomg
Mar 18 19:36:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 4 @ 0.23958397 = 0.9583 BTC [+]
Mar 18 19:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol!
Mar 18 19:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is le excitingque
Mar 18 19:37:01 <Bowjob>	well, cyprus
Mar 18 19:37:01 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 18 19:37:10 <Bowjob>	in anything, TA is bullshit
Mar 18 19:37:18 <deadweasel>	mp go pay bitbet nao~!
Mar 18 19:37:19 <deadweasel>	it almost feels like classical conditioning0
Mar 18 19:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 18 19:37:24 <deadweasel>	 oops jk
Mar 18 19:37:28 <kakobrekla>	i have been saying this for a while now, the more world goes to shit, the better for btc
Mar 18 19:37:28 <Bowjob>	fundamentals beats all!
Mar 18 19:37:40 <Bowjob>	we are the new wealthy elite
Mar 18 19:38:24 <Bowjob>	im just gonna sit this out, waiting for my avalon
Mar 18 19:38:35 <Bowjob>	we just rboke 52
Mar 18 19:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	nowai ?!
Mar 18 19:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:38:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 52.00000, Best ask: 52.12000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 52.00000, 24 hour volume: 61002.40967740, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.12000, 24 hour vwap: 48.74625
Mar 18 19:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is going to 100
Mar 18 19:39:07 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 19:39:08 <gribble>	2.173409 seconds
Mar 18 19:39:17 <kakobrekla>	WE NEED MOAR LAG!!!
Mar 18 19:39:22 <Bowjob>	just watch the price here
Mar 18 19:39:25 <Bowjob>	in real time
Mar 18 19:39:25 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/
Mar 18 19:39:31 <Bowjob>	the orderbook is skewed
Mar 18 19:39:31 <deadweasel>	lol
Mar 18 19:39:35 <Bowjob>	not enough coins
Mar 18 19:39:36 <ThickAsThieves>	so the big 50 wall was a fake
Mar 18 19:39:49 <Bowjob>	was it fake or eaten
Mar 18 19:39:56 <ThickAsThieves>	dunno
Mar 18 19:40:01 <kakobrekla>	it was take out in 2 steps today
Mar 18 19:40:04 <kakobrekla>	taken
Mar 18 19:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	part eaten taken off
Mar 18 19:40:14 <deadweasel>	you shouldn't eat so much, kakobrekla
Mar 18 19:40:17 <deadweasel>	on nm
Mar 18 19:40:18 <Bowjob>	some people seem to be dumping
Mar 18 19:40:18 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 18 19:40:24 <kakobrekla>	deadweasel im full :p
Mar 18 19:40:31 <deadweasel>	of bitcoins
Mar 18 19:40:46 <ThickAsThieves>	wow
Mar 18 19:40:51 <Bowjob>	i welcome you, my cyprus and spanish friends
Mar 18 19:40:51 <deadweasel>	worth 50+
Mar 18 19:40:53 <Bugpowder>	52
Mar 18 19:40:59 <deadweasel>	i'm 1/4 spanish
Mar 18 19:41:24 <deadweasel>	52.12! no way this holds
Mar 18 19:41:33 <kakobrekla>	meanwhile in antartica: ltc down to 0.01
Mar 18 19:41:39 <deadweasel>	panic selling t-minus some seconds
Mar 18 19:42:13 <Bugpowder>	nah dude
Mar 18 19:42:16 <Bugpowder>	this is moving up
Mar 18 19:42:25 <Bowjob>	fuck this shit im cancelling LTC
Mar 18 19:42:31 <benkay>	oh bowjob
Mar 18 19:42:33 <benkay>	trading your emotions
Mar 18 19:42:34 <benkay>	that's cute
Mar 18 19:42:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:42:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 52.10000, Best ask: 52.11999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 52.10000, 24 hour volume: 61104.42476205, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.12000, 24 hour vwap: 48.75342
Mar 18 19:44:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136365020251.png
Mar 18 19:44:23 <mircea_popescu>	for the win
Mar 18 19:44:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00075127 = 8.4894 BTC [+]
Mar 18 19:44:36 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 50
Mar 18 19:44:37 <gribble>	There are currently 6286.4465 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 315601.470911 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.1438 seconds
Mar 18 19:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1487 @ 0.00076717 = 1.1408 BTC [+]
Mar 18 19:44:45 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 49
Mar 18 19:44:47 <gribble>	There are currently 7952.6316 bitcoins demanded at or over 49.0 USD, worth 397741.218334 USD in total. | Data vintage: 53.4991 seconds
Mar 18 19:44:52 <Bugpowder>	not a bad wall
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Mar 18 19:46:19 <deadweasel>	;;ticker --last
Mar 18 19:46:20 <gribble>	52.10000
Mar 18 19:47:08 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 19:47:09 <gribble>	54.463538 seconds
Mar 18 19:47:16 <benkay>	ho ho ho
Mar 18 19:47:52 <mod6>	merry lag time
Mar 18 19:48:20 <mircea_popescu>	“We want to be the grownups in the Bitcoin space,” said chief operating officer Ryan Singer in an interview.
Mar 18 19:48:20 <mircea_popescu>	Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/18/embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back/#kOC57bZHlphBM98A.99
Mar 18 19:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha fuckwits.
Mar 18 19:48:45 <benkay>	californians, man
Mar 18 19:49:00 <benkay>	second only to new yorkers in arrogant fuckery
Mar 18 19:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	fucking tradition in bitcoin, retards posturing as ":the adults:"
Mar 18 19:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoinica consultancy ? check.
Mar 18 19:49:19 <mircea_popescu>	coinfail ? check
Mar 18 19:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	tradehill ? check.
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Mar 18 19:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	next kludge is going to come back from the dead wanting to be the adult in bitcoin or some shit.
Mar 18 19:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	maybe bruce wagner too.
Mar 18 19:50:31 <benkay>	it's how you raise capital
Mar 18 19:50:33 <Bowjob>	yawn
Mar 18 19:50:41 <benkay>	pretend to be awesome
Mar 18 19:50:43 <benkay>	hustle ferociously
Mar 18 19:50:48 <benkay>	disregard the truth
Mar 18 19:50:56 <kakobrekla>	im not concered
Mar 18 19:51:00 <kakobrekla>	they are in merrica
Mar 18 19:51:03 <kakobrekla>	they will get selffucked
Mar 18 19:51:05 <Bugpowder>	what the fuck is up with their photos
Mar 18 19:51:10 <Bugpowder>	so unprofessional
Mar 18 19:51:12 <benkay>	i don't understand the fixation with exchanges.
Mar 18 19:51:17 <Bugpowder>	I see they swapped out the original
Mar 18 19:51:25 <Bugpowder>	which was them looking hammered, holding a drink
Mar 18 19:51:34 <mircea_popescu>	benkay it's like the notion that bitcoi nwill grow through retail adoption
Mar 18 19:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	people focus on what they can understand easily.
Mar 18 19:51:57 <benkay>	derp harder, oh my countrymen
Mar 18 19:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder shh, adult photos!
Mar 18 19:52:09 <Bugpowder>	like WTF
Mar 18 19:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 18 19:52:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.73600, Best ask: 51.93701, Bid-ask spread: 0.20101, Last trade: 51.73801, 24 hour volume: 64139.42338876, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 48.93122
Mar 18 19:52:31 <Bugpowder>	wear a fucking suit for your fucking presentation to the world dipshits
Mar 18 19:52:32 <mircea_popescu>	53 about to gho
Mar 18 19:52:57 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the only thing the rental store had was a pink tux and a strapless sperm-white gucci dress
Mar 18 19:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	well... guggi.
Mar 18 19:53:28 <parseval>	huh..  http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html
Mar 18 19:54:12 <parseval>	FinCEN's statement on applicability of regulations to virtual currencies, posted today
Mar 18 19:54:18 <kakobrekla>	anyone singed up for that prime idiotism?
Mar 18 19:54:35 <benkay>	where did you find that, parseval?
Mar 18 19:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	parseval o hery, big deal.
Mar 18 19:54:46 <parseval>	It was on reddit
Mar 18 19:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	This guidance refers to the participants in generic virtual currency arrangements, using the terms "user," "exchanger," and "administrator."6 A user is a person that obtains virtual currency to purchase goods or services.7 An exchanger is a person engaged as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for real currency, funds, or other virtual currency. An administrator is a person engaged as a business in issuing (
Mar 18 19:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	putting into circulation) a virtual currency, and who has the authority to redeem (to withdraw from circulation) such virtual currency.
Mar 18 19:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	they blew it.
Mar 18 19:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	mpex still extempt.
Mar 18 19:55:55 <parseval>	See part C
Mar 18 19:55:58 <parseval>	   A final type of convertible virtual currency activity involves a de-centralized convertible virtual currency (1) that has no central repository and no single administrator, and (2) that persons may obtain by their own computing or manufacturing effort.
Mar 18 19:55:58 <parseval>	            A person that creates units of this convertible virtual currency and uses it to purchase real or virtual goods and services is a user of the convertible virtual currency and not subject to regulation as a money transmitter. By contrast, a person that creates units of convertible virtual currency and sells those units to another person for real currency or its equivalent is engaged in transmission to another location
Mar 18 19:55:58 <parseval>	and is a money transmitter. In addition, a person is an exchanger and a money transmitter if the person accepts such de-centralized convertible virtual currency from one person and transmits it to another person as part of the acceptance and transfer of currency, funds, or other value that substitutes for currency.
Mar 18 19:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Mar 18 19:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	to be an administrator it substantively requires you have the ability to withdraw units.
Mar 18 19:56:58 <parseval>	Looks like MtGox is getting out just in time
Mar 18 19:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	to be a transmitter it substantively requires you blabla as part of acceptance/transfer of funds/currency/etc.
Mar 18 19:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	but yes.
Mar 18 19:57:26 <Bowjob>	we can reach $58 if
Mar 18 19:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much all exchanges have an issue nao.
Mar 18 19:57:32 <Bowjob>	theres $500k
Mar 18 19:57:33 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 18 19:57:33 <Bowjob>	hahaha'
Mar 18 19:57:46 <parseval>	You have to follow the BSA as a transmitter
Mar 18 19:58:12 <parseval>	Which means all sorts of recordkeeping and reporting regulations
Mar 18 19:58:33 <smickles>	looks like they are trying to say anyone who buys or sells bitcoin for fiat is a money transmitter
Mar 18 19:58:41 <smickles>	so all users of any exchange
Mar 18 19:59:00 <mircea_popescu>	       A person must exchange the currency of two or more countries to be considered a dealer in foreign exchange.19 Virtual currency does not meet the criteria to be considered "currency" under the BSA, because it is not legal tender. Therefore, a person who accepts real currency in exchange for virtual currency, or vice versa, is not a dealer in foreign exchange under FinCEN's regulations.
Mar 18 19:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty good.
Mar 18 19:59:22 <parseval>	Oh, nice, I missed that part
Mar 18 19:59:27 <smickles>	not foex, but money tx
Mar 18 20:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	pretty good point
Mar 18 20:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	so in the end, fincen guidance supports at least in part http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/
Mar 18 20:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	kinda nice to have them come out with "it is not a currency" statement.
Mar 18 20:01:15 <BitHub>	they class it the same as wow gold here
Mar 18 20:01:35 <smickles>	BitHub: if you buy wow gold you're a money transmitter?
Mar 18 20:01:42 <smickles>	i dun think so
Mar 18 20:02:01 <smickles>	that doc says if you buy a decentralized virtual currency, you are a money transmitter
Mar 18 20:02:22 <smickles>	which has a whole shebang of regulation
Mar 18 20:02:35 <parseval>	I think it's just if you sell it
Mar 18 20:02:46 <smickles>	i think it said both
Mar 18 20:02:51 <Bowjob>	im just sitting here fapping getting rich
Mar 18 20:02:53 <Bowjob>	>_>
Mar 18 20:03:03 <Bugpowder>	WOW
Mar 18 20:03:08 <Bowjob>	i ougtta work or something. this feels cheating
Mar 18 20:03:09 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 18 20:03:10 <deadweasel>	coinbase just took my txn.  given their history that doesn't mean anything.
Mar 18 20:03:22 <Bugpowder>	That FinCEN thing looks interesting
Mar 18 20:03:22 <Bowjob>	work at like mcdicks. make more money than the manager
Mar 18 20:03:23 <Bowjob>	haha
Mar 18 20:03:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder indeed.
Mar 18 20:03:31 <Bugpowder>	I will get feedback from wifey
Mar 18 20:03:41 <Bugpowder>	and from my other lawyer friends
Mar 18 20:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder cool
Mar 18 20:04:18 <smickles>	i might actually have to pay federal income tax this coming year if this shit keeps up
Mar 18 20:04:44 <deadweasel>	lol smickles
Mar 18 20:04:59 <deadweasel>	fuck those guys, this is bartering
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Mar 18 20:05:01 <BitHub>	cant you just hide your coins and tell them you got hacked?
Mar 18 20:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 18 20:05:12 <smickles>	deadweasel: not when you trade it for usd
Mar 18 20:05:19 <benkay>	why do that?
Mar 18 20:05:23 <benkay>	just buy *things*
Mar 18 20:05:24 <deadweasel>	fuck usd
Mar 18 20:05:28 <BitHub>	cash out in another country
Mar 18 20:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	why are you folks so hell bent on not paying tax ?
Mar 18 20:05:52 <smickles>	it's all part of the plan
Mar 18 20:05:54 <parseval>	Or buy USD on an auction house
Mar 18 20:06:00 <parseval>	Have them mail it to you
Mar 18 20:06:05 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i'm not, it's just that i'm poor and haven't done it yet
Mar 18 20:06:07 <parseval>	I mean actual cash
Mar 18 20:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	smickles not you, them
Mar 18 20:06:40 <smickles>	also, they gave me ~4kusd for my kid this year
Mar 18 20:06:47 <deadweasel>	because 51%+ goes to something worse than churches
Mar 18 20:06:48 <BitHub>	right mircea because MPEX is paying coporate tax right?
Mar 18 20:06:59 <deadweasel>	it goes to war.
Mar 18 20:07:08 <deadweasel>	so fuck em
Mar 18 20:07:10 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub on fiat revenue, sure.
Mar 18 20:07:33 <BitHub>	right so if everything is in btc why pay tax?
Mar 18 20:07:40 <BitHub>	i got hacked and all my coins are gone
Mar 18 20:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok.
Mar 18 20:07:50 <smickles>	if stuff like the fincen doc keep popping up, bitcoin 'revenue' isn't revenue
Mar 18 20:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it quite clearly says it isn't actually
Mar 18 20:08:10 <Bugpowder>	bartering tokens are still taxable
Mar 18 20:08:16 <Bugpowder>	get that guide
Mar 18 20:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	of course, it wouldn't be the first time this here bird is considered a duck for the purpose of X law and  a goose for the purpose of y law
Mar 18 20:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	even if it can't be both.
Mar 18 20:08:44 <BitHub>	isn't your juridiction cyberspace?
Mar 18 20:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub practically or theoretically ?
Mar 18 20:09:07 <smickles>	Bugpowder: but it's taxed in a whole different way if you barter with it
Mar 18 20:09:10 <BitHub>	prac
Mar 18 20:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	practically it's romania.
Mar 18 20:10:09 <smickles>	that's right, mircea_popescu is an umpyr
Mar 18 20:10:53 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 18 20:10:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
Mar 18 20:11:14 <Bowjob>	we're crashing!
Mar 18 20:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	haha flash crash
Mar 18 20:12:00 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 18 20:12:00 <mod6>	1M btc block: https://blockchain.info/block-index/361547/000000000000036a89470665c290a5aeead5809c2dc5fcb58678598e64211bc0
Mar 18 20:12:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
Mar 18 20:12:02 <Bugpowder>	wall at 54
Mar 18 20:12:05 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 54
Mar 18 20:12:16 <gribble>	There are currently 14319.578 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 768614.569271 USD in total. | Data vintage: 150.8870 seconds
Mar 18 20:12:48 <Bugpowder>	-25 BTC transaction fee?
Mar 18 20:13:45 <mircea_popescu>	Data vintage: 150.8870 seconds lmao
Mar 18 20:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder hm ?
Mar 18 20:14:02 <mod6>	Bugpowder: yeah thought that was weird
Mar 18 20:14:04 <BitHub>	When it comes to Tax why give money to a useless middleman that does a pretty terrible job at making the best of your money to make a better country, actually just waste alot, there's no point paying them when i can just hire people to make the country a lil bit less shit.
Mar 18 20:14:35 <BitHub>	i like to build parks, and roads, and speedhumps
Mar 18 20:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is that block
Mar 18 20:14:41 <mircea_popescu>	1mn btc transacted ?!
Mar 18 20:15:01 <deadweasel>	i just cashed out, that was me....
Mar 18 20:15:05 <Bugpowder>	lets look deeepr
Mar 18 20:15:10 <deadweasel>	:)
Mar 18 20:15:32 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 20:15:34 <gribble>	95.434838 seconds
Mar 18 20:15:37 <deadweasel>	ha
Mar 18 20:15:38 <benkay>	SMOKES.
Mar 18 20:15:52 <mod6>	something like deepbit payments or something
Mar 18 20:16:01 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 18 20:16:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
Mar 18 20:16:08 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 20:16:09 <gribble>	44.277889 seconds
Mar 18 20:16:12 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 18 20:16:18 <Bugpowder>	Looks like 5000 BTC getting bounced from addresss to address with 2BTC missing each time
Mar 18 20:16:21 <deadweasel>	gox just took a gigantic crap
Mar 18 20:16:35 <Bugpowder>	ough
Mar 18 20:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder check out the 6k ish txns
Mar 18 20:16:38 <Bugpowder>	50 wall gone
Mar 18 20:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	addy 1 sends to 2 sends to 3 sends to 4
Mar 18 20:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	same btc
Mar 18 20:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Mar 18 20:16:52 <mod6>	yeah something like 6500 upto 7600
Mar 18 20:16:55 <Bugpowder>	OH YES!
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Mar 18 20:17:04 <Bugpowder>	THat was the wall at 54
Mar 18 20:17:09 <Bugpowder>	he sold to market
Mar 18 20:17:17 <Bugpowder>	54 wall is gone now. Up we go
Mar 18 20:17:26 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 18 20:17:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
Mar 18 20:17:32 <Bugpowder>	stale
Mar 18 20:17:38 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 20:17:39 <gribble>	19.91481 seconds
Mar 18 20:17:45 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 18 20:17:46 <Bugpowder>	that seems to be up to date
Mar 18 20:18:01 <deadweasel>	thx, wow
Mar 18 20:18:06 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 18 20:18:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.20001, Best ask: 50.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 50.20001, 24 hour volume: 70775.46761279, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.16174
Mar 18 20:18:18 <Bowjob>	$50 is the new paradigm
Mar 18 20:18:19 <Bugpowder>	maybe its not stale... looks right
Mar 18 20:18:26 <Bugpowder>	$50 is the OLD paradigm
Mar 18 20:18:37 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder is right
Mar 18 20:18:39 <Bugpowder>	How many russians are thinking of putting 1% in bitcoin.
Mar 18 20:18:40 <Bowjob>	$50 is the new 5
Mar 18 20:19:01 <deadweasel>	the number in here listening Bugpowder
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Mar 18 20:19:36 <deadweasel>	ssssshhhhhh,  were hunting bitcoin...  wascally bitcoin
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Mar 18 20:21:56 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 18 20:21:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.53002, Best ask: 50.82998, Bid-ask spread: 0.29996, Last trade: 50.52002, 24 hour volume: 70828.14155647, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.16342
Mar 18 20:22:06 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 20:22:10 <gribble>	27.051584 seconds
Mar 18 20:24:25 <benkay>	are there any good charts of goxlag?
Mar 18 20:24:49 <pizzaman1337>	charts of goxlag? hahh
Mar 18 20:25:00 <kakobrekla>	it should be done
Mar 18 20:25:01 <pizzaman1337>	it could be used as an indicator
Mar 18 20:25:04 <kakobrekla>	yea
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Mar 18 20:25:20 <benkay>	of transient value
Mar 18 20:25:25 <benkay>	given recent biz moves
Mar 18 20:25:31 <pgp>	tradehill looks like their down - soiled themselves already...
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Mar 18 20:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	lmao pgp
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Mar 18 20:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	the adults has left the playground ?
Mar 18 20:25:58 <pgp>	lol
Mar 18 20:26:19 <pgp>	only adults have crossed order books...
Mar 18 20:26:35 <pgp>	at least that never happens on gox...  lol
Mar 18 20:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 18 20:27:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.79898, Best ask: 50.79899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 50.79898, 24 hour volume: 71294.17494196, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.17302
Mar 18 20:27:44 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 20:27:45 <gribble>	12.907513 seconds
Mar 18 20:28:02 <benkay>	is it unreasonable to ask for goxlag in the ticker?
Mar 18 20:28:28 <pgp>	how it it that bitcoinity is updating and gox's US "Partner" coinlab isn't...
Mar 18 20:28:44 <smickles>	< benkay> is it unreasonable to ask for goxlag in the ticker? << nanotube
Mar 18 20:29:06 <pgp>	betcha that bitcoinity could do some sort of gox lag chart...
Mar 18 20:29:33 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 18 20:29:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.79898, Best ask: 50.79899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 50.79898, 24 hour volume: 71294.17494196, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.17302
Mar 18 20:29:40 <Bugpowder>	ywan
Mar 18 20:29:46 <Bugpowder>	back 2 work
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Mar 18 20:35:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 20:35:16 <gribble>	0.430566 seconds
Mar 18 20:36:07 <Bowjob>	not bad
Mar 18 20:36:09 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 18 20:36:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.79980, Best ask: 50.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05020, Last trade: 50.85000, 24 hour volume: 71804.32426947, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.19010
Mar 18 20:36:19 <Bowjob>	yep. "new paradigm"
Mar 18 20:36:20 <gigatube>	boring
Mar 18 20:36:26 <gigatube>	99$ or gtfo
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Mar 18 20:48:30 <asciilifeform>	oldie but goodie re: BTC exchanges: http://tinyurl.com/5t4xqq4
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Mar 18 20:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform was discussed here just a day or two ago
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Mar 18 20:54:00 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: damn. got a log?
Mar 18 20:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	ya 1 sec
Mar 18 20:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/v3JxJqy5 aka nothing
Mar 18 20:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	i guess "discussed" was a misnomer.
Mar 18 20:57:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009998 BTC [-]
Mar 18 20:58:21 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: not much of a refutation now, was it?
Mar 18 20:58:35 <mircea_popescu>	not something that can in principle be refuted, is it ?
Mar 18 20:58:52 <BitHub>	not so sexy now is it
Mar 18 20:59:25 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: not so sure about that. it might be possible to measure traffic to, say, mtgox, indirectly (without being in control of mtgox)
Mar 18 20:59:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.84 = 2.52 BTC [-]
Mar 18 20:59:33 <asciilifeform>	say, by measuring ping time
Mar 18 20:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform you can measure (a good portion of) mpex's inbound btc, for that matter.
Mar 18 20:59:54 <asciilifeform>	and see exactly how it correlates with price moves
Mar 18 20:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	does it help you ?
Mar 18 21:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	this is an open problem generally, there's even a serious bounty out for a certain formulation of it
Mar 18 21:00:30 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: that wouldn't do the trick, necessarily. presumably they have plenty of BTC in house to absorb the "noise"
Mar 18 21:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/ (s.dice version)
Mar 18 21:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	there's like 5k bucks waiting to be won by some clever chap there
Mar 18 21:02:20 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I might take you up on that challenge.
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Mar 18 21:07:15 <BitHub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufXdcKWrmSM
Mar 18 21:07:26 <BitHub>	 Asset Protection, Privacy and Bitcoin for Solo Entrepreneurs Part 1/8
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Mar 18 21:16:09 <kakobrekla>	what bullshit is this
Mar 18 21:16:14 <kakobrekla>	"you can become a 'pt'"
Mar 18 21:16:38 <dub>	one does not simply walk into passthrough
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Mar 18 21:16:52 <kakobrekla>	- perpetual thinker, - permanent tourist, - possibility thinker - privacy techincian, - pirate pass through
Mar 18 21:17:17 <dub>	proffessional thetan?
Mar 18 21:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha wait. tradehill is back ON THE MPEX MODEL ?
Mar 18 21:17:40 <pgp>	thetan - lol!
Mar 18 21:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 18 21:17:58 <kakobrekla>	oh shut up
Mar 18 21:18:09 <mircea_popescu>	Every client will receive a $75 credit to test trading and can activate an account with a deposit of at least $10,000, 200 Bitcoins, or $5,000 in Mt. Gox codes.
Mar 18 21:18:09 <mircea_popescu>	Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/18/embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back/#kOC57bZHlphBM98A.99
Mar 18 21:18:19 <mircea_popescu>	need at least 10k to play.
Mar 18 21:18:28 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 18 21:18:55 <kakobrekla>	i give 2.5 btc for 50btc account
Mar 18 21:18:58 <kakobrekla>	which is like
Mar 18 21:18:59 <pgp>	5k really...
Mar 18 21:19:06 <kakobrekla>	twice dat.
Mar 18 21:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	funny shit what these adults are up to over there.
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Mar 18 21:19:54 <kakobrekla>	give us a million and you get free cookie
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Mar 18 21:20:02 <pgp>	I'm embarassed for them...
Mar 18 21:20:10 <kakobrekla>	sales pitch.
Mar 18 21:20:59 <pgp>	cleaned out their book , I see...  My, my, what DEEP pool of liquidity they have...
Mar 18 21:22:04 <kakobrekla>	from the comments;
Mar 18 21:22:04 <kakobrekla>	Ryan Singer > Kurt Durjan • 9 hours ago −
Mar 18 21:22:04 <kakobrekla>	↓
Mar 18 21:22:04 <kakobrekla>	Hi Kurt,
Mar 18 21:22:04 <kakobrekla>	Please email us at claim@tradehill.com and I will put you in touch with the person doing payouts for the old company
Mar 18 21:22:05 <kakobrekla>	---
Mar 18 21:22:10 <kakobrekla>	rofl.
Mar 18 21:23:04 <pgp>	yikes...  crossed order book is back!
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Mar 18 21:24:16 <pgp>	what a joke...
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Mar 18 21:24:50 <pgp>	are those sell orders @ 50 supposed to be AON orders or something - still doesn't make sense...
Mar 18 21:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol win
Mar 18 21:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	"the person doing payouts for the old company"
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Mar 18 21:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	which isn't the dorks in the pic nor anything named tradehill
Mar 18 21:25:31 <kakobrekla>	the problem is to an outsider
Mar 18 21:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	fuck it, i'm blogging this
Mar 18 21:25:35 <kakobrekla>	this is all nice and ok
Mar 18 21:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 18 21:25:59 <kakobrekla>	we need some press site with some powah
Mar 18 21:26:37 <pgp>	book finally uncrossed...  more lag than gox?
Mar 18 21:26:59 <kakobrekla>	$coinlablag
Mar 18 21:27:07 <kakobrekla>	or sumtn
Mar 18 21:27:14 <pgp>	awesome! $1.50 spread
Mar 18 21:27:32 <pgp>	oops book gone again
Mar 18 21:28:30 <kakobrekla>	thes end of the world once per week on these exchanges
Mar 18 21:28:35 <kakobrekla>	theres*
Mar 18 21:33:25 <jborkl>	mpex.co is down
Mar 18 21:34:04 <smickles>	oh?
Mar 18 21:34:07 <kakobrekla>	is not
Mar 18 21:34:11 <pgp>	indeed it is...
Mar 18 21:34:19 <smickles>	sweet
Mar 18 21:34:21 <smickles>	:D
Mar 18 21:34:30 <smickles>	HAVOC!
Mar 18 21:34:47 <kakobrekla>	opens for me?
Mar 18 21:35:03 <pgp>	coinbr seems fine
Mar 18 21:35:48 <pgp>	but not http://mpex.coinbr.com/ or http://mpex.co/
Mar 18 21:36:00 <smickles>	yeah, i'm not seeing any issue
Mar 18 21:36:06 <smickles>	$depth
Mar 18 21:36:10 <mpexbot>	smickles: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WUXa2LWs
Mar 18 21:36:22 <smickles>	and mpex proper is still there
Mar 18 21:36:40 <pgp>	no i can sleep
Mar 18 21:36:43 <pgp>	now
Mar 18 21:36:52 <smickles>	pgp: if you're still having issues with the websites, use assbot or mpexbot
Mar 18 21:37:40 <pgp>	not a problem for me right now, just noting that website it inaccessible...
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Mar 18 21:37:58 <jborkl>	they are both down,404.doesnt matter to me but just to let you know
Mar 18 21:38:16 <smickles>	weird, they are both up for me
Mar 18 21:38:34 <smickles>	jborkl: where abouts are you
Mar 18 21:38:41 <smickles>	i'm in SW 'merica
Mar 18 21:38:45 <jborkl>	knowmultiple ip,same 404 errors on al
Mar 18 21:38:47 <jborkl>	all
Mar 18 21:38:53 <pgp>	im in nyc
Mar 18 21:39:04 <jborkl>	alalltexas
Mar 18 21:39:10 <jborkl>	damn phone
Mar 18 21:39:18 <smickles>	ahh, mpex.coinbr.com 404 now
Mar 18 21:39:39 <smickles>	mpexbot should work even if mpex.co is down
Mar 18 21:39:47 <smickles>	the same with assbot iirc
Mar 18 21:40:11 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: are you seeing this?
Mar 18 21:40:33 <Bugpowder>	yah its down
Mar 18 21:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	i am
Mar 18 21:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap
Mar 18 21:40:40 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Uq6Ck9w2
Mar 18 21:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	aha.
Mar 18 21:40:57 <mircea_popescu>	mpex.co isn't down ftr.
Mar 18 21:41:29 <smickles>	woah,
Mar 18 21:41:39 <smickles>	mpexbot is getting a lot of network.in
Mar 18 21:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mpex.co
Mar 18 21:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	also
Mar 18 21:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if this is the early phase lessee here
Mar 18 21:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	Load Averages 0.07 0.08 0.08  on the proxies.
Mar 18 21:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	8 - 9 requests/sec. really niot seeing an issue atm
Mar 18 21:44:14 <error4733>	down for me
Mar 18 21:44:42 <midnightmagic>	down for me also. :-/
Mar 18 21:45:16 <smickles>	mpexbot's load average is up to 0.08
Mar 18 21:45:23 <smickles>	highest it's ever been
Mar 18 21:45:35 <mircea_popescu>	well folks, some tracerts might be useful
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Mar 18 21:46:20 <pgp>	48 min since last block mined
Mar 18 21:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	174.127.72.233/mpex/ << direct addressing also if it's a local dns issue/poisoning
Mar 18 21:46:57 <error4733>	FORK ? #troll
Mar 18 21:47:19 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: traceroute ends at 173.192.118.141 ( po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com )
Mar 18 21:47:20 <mircea_popescu>	also,
Mar 18 21:47:21 <mircea_popescu>	$proxies
Mar 18 21:47:23 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com", "http://mpex6.coinbr.com"]
Mar 18 21:47:32 <mircea_popescu>	mpex.ws mpex.bz same story ?
Mar 18 21:47:36 <pgp>	mp - that doesn't work either
Mar 18 21:47:39 <midnightmagic>	hrm..
Mar 18 21:47:58 <error4733>	no1
Mar 18 21:48:00 <kakobrekla>	.bz works
Mar 18 21:48:20 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 18 21:48:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6227 shares, 31.76 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514093 / 0.00599987 (75748 shares, 389.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609733 / 0.0069 (2299780 shares, 14,022.52 BTC)
Mar 18 21:48:26 <error4733>	mmh not for me, so ? DNS ?
Mar 18 21:48:30 <vampireb>	;;ticker
Mar 18 21:48:34 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic that's normal, it's the top level router of the dc
Mar 18 21:48:42 <pgp>	proxies don't seem to work
Mar 18 21:48:56 <Bugpowder>	direct address dont work
Mar 18 21:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	pgp you actually can't connect to what srsly ?!
Mar 18 21:49:03 <Bugpowder>	from DC
Mar 18 21:49:21 <midnightmagic>	mpex.ws doesn't resolve. same with mpex.bz, and..  hrm.. 216.182.224.87 (216.182.224.87) for the coinbr proxies.
Mar 18 21:49:32 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: It's not normal for a traceroute to fail to traverse..
Mar 18 21:49:53 <pgp>	just sayin' - can't get to website...  trying to offer datapoint from nyc area...
Mar 18 21:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	to fail to traverse no
Mar 18 21:49:56 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Are you getting bent over by someone..?
Mar 18 21:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	possibly tho it'd be in a very weird way
Mar 18 21:50:08 <kakobrekla>	.bz and .co works here
Mar 18 21:50:16 <kakobrekla>	the rest is dead
Mar 18 21:50:22 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: My traceroute is from northern california..
Mar 18 21:50:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://who.is/whois/mpex.co sees it for instance
Mar 18 21:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	downforeverone also sees it
Mar 18 21:50:51 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: That might just be cached. (the whois part)
Mar 18 21:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe one of the letter dns servers got pouisoned ?
Mar 18 21:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	Overview for mpex.co
Mar 18 21:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	Updated: 1 second ago
Mar 18 21:51:27 <Bugpowder>	http://pastebin.com/DxCMxhDw
Mar 18 21:51:29 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Is this 174.127.72.233 mpex.co?
Mar 18 21:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Mar 18 21:51:43 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Do you have access to a looking glass?
Mar 18 21:51:48 <Bugpowder>	dies here : po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com (173.192.118.141)  131.070 ms
Mar 18 21:51:53 <smickles>	i've got a server in california
Mar 18 21:52:03 <smickles>	i'll tr from there
Mar 18 21:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 18 21:53:34 <Bugpowder>	DOJ cut the US cables to MPEX
Mar 18 21:53:46 <Bugpowder>	in wake of FinCEN guidance
Mar 18 21:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 18 21:54:18 <midnightmagic>	smickles: Does your upstream give you bgp looking glass access?
Mar 18 21:54:58 <Bugpowder>	Actually, the DC Level 3 ip tried for 50 secondes then sent it thru Dallas, where it also failed.
Mar 18 21:55:15 <midnightmagic>	it would certainly be interesting if it were part of something deliberate. :-/
Mar 18 21:55:19 <Bugpowder>	5 seconds
Mar 18 21:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	1 	  2 	  0 	  0 	     8.9.232.73	 xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
Mar 18 21:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	2 	  Timed out 	  1 	  0 	     4.69.145.204	 ae-4-90.edge2.dallas3.level3.net
Mar 18 21:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	3 	  7 	  7 	  7 	     4.59.36.94	 softlayer-t.edge2.dallas3.level3.net
Mar 18 21:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	4 	  8 	  7 	  8 	     50.97.18.195	 ae6.dar01.sr01.dal05.networklayer.com
Mar 18 21:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	5 	  10 	  8 	  7 	     173.192.118.139	 po1.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com
Mar 18 21:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	6 	  8 	  8 	  8 	     174.127.72.233	 174.127.72.233.static.midphase.com
Mar 18 21:55:26 <mircea_popescu>	Trace complete
Mar 18 21:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	i get it from dallas just fine for instance
Mar 18 21:55:40 <pgp>	http://174.127.72.233/ comes up for me showing some Romanian hauling luggage...
Mar 18 21:55:45 <smickles>	midnightmagic: i'm so noob on this topic, i don't even know
Mar 18 21:55:52 <midnightmagic>	smickles: Okay.
Mar 18 21:56:02 <smickles>	my cali traceroute didn't look special
Mar 18 21:56:03 <Bugpowder>	still hanging at     po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com (173.192.118.141)  89.246 ms
Mar 18 21:56:12 <smickles>	it must be in a different part
Mar 18 21:56:40 <midnightmagic>	maybe iran screwed their bgp advertisements up again
Mar 18 21:56:43 <midnightmagic>	that would be funny.
Mar 18 21:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	pgp haha cool.
Mar 18 21:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	except it's a guatemalan.
Mar 18 21:56:58 <Bugpowder>	172.127.72.233 loads for me... text only, but the /mpex does not
Mar 18 21:57:22 <smickles>	text only? you're looking at the site as intended
Mar 18 21:57:25 <smickles>	;)
Mar 18 21:57:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Mar 18 21:57:31 <pgp>	lol
Mar 18 21:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	for my curiosity, if you edit your hosts to read
Mar 18 21:57:45 <pgp>	are you sure?
Mar 18 21:57:49 <mircea_popescu>	174.127.72.233 mpex.co
Mar 18 21:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	does it suddenly work fine ?
Mar 18 21:58:23 <mircea_popescu>	(bind may need restart, or masq or w/e the dns is)
Mar 18 21:59:38 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap
Mar 18 21:59:40 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6J3qFf1L
Mar 18 22:02:28 <pgp>	although 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ does resolve...
Mar 18 22:02:34 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 18 22:02:54 <pgp>	the google translator has the article beginning with "May be the reasons explained when talking about behavioral deviations , or if it is not of course a conspiracy of blacks, Jews, Masons, English and former wives . It is true that I lean toward the first explanation, "What do I know?"
Mar 18 22:03:01 <kakobrekla>	dafuq
Mar 18 22:03:09 <kakobrekla>	nanotube, gribble forgot -asset
Mar 18 22:03:10 <kakobrekla>	s
Mar 18 22:04:28 <pgp>	fascinating material - really...
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Mar 18 22:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	pgp lol cool
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Mar 18 22:07:35 <pgp>	I'm sure google isn't capturing the nuance of message...
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Mar 18 22:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 18 22:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i've told sysadmin ppls, see what they come up with
Mar 18 22:08:43 <dub>	dos again?
Mar 18 22:09:11 <dub>	you should stick some soa elsewhere so we can at least tell when you're gettign dosed
Mar 18 22:10:05 <dub>	also fuck .co
Mar 18 22:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	dub best i can tell there's some dns poisoning going on
Mar 18 22:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	so use .ws
Mar 18 22:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	dub does 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ resolve for you ?
Mar 18 22:11:06 <pgp>	although lumping in "former housewives" (or should it just be former wives) in with blacks, jew, mason and...  english does strike me as subtly genius on a level that I'm not quite sure I understand....
Mar 18 22:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	pgp gimme a link i might make some sense of it
Mar 18 22:11:25 <dub>	um I don't think thats teh right question
Mar 18 22:11:45 <mircea_popescu>	ya ok. does it bring up a page ?
Mar 18 22:11:49 <dub>	I can reach 174.127.72.233
Mar 18 22:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 18 22:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	if you update your dns to have mpex.co resolve there you're good to go.
Mar 18 22:12:16 <dub>	174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ is a 302 to http://polimedia.us/trilema/
Mar 18 22:12:29 <dub>	and polimedia is not resolving
Mar 18 22:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	hum
Mar 18 22:13:08 <jborkl>	polimedia.us not resolving
Mar 18 22:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://174.127.72.233/~polimedi/bitcoin/ << what does that do ?
Mar 18 22:13:29 <jborkl>	resolvingyes
Mar 18 22:13:31 <dub>	it shows mpex
Mar 18 22:13:41 <mircea_popescu>	mkay.
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Mar 18 22:14:03 <pgp>	http://174.127.72.233/~polimedi/bitcoin/  yes it does!
Mar 18 22:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	not clear if intentional or accidental, if directed at mpex or just affecting some users, but the dns's are borkt.
Mar 18 22:14:12 <dub>	your problem is the soa is unreachable
Mar 18 22:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	for some people (not for all)
Mar 18 22:14:55 <dub>	well your soa records are on your domain
Mar 18 22:14:58 <dub>	which is broken
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Mar 18 22:15:34 <dub>	if I cant resolve soa for polimedia.us im not goign to be able to ask ns1/2.polimedia.us how to get there
Mar 18 22:15:36 <mircea_popescu>	dub you will have to have soa on some server.
Mar 18 22:15:39 <pgp>	btw 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ seems to resolve to random MP musings...
Mar 18 22:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	if some user gets his dns fucked up and can't resolve that server
Mar 18 22:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	it will appear unreachable.
Mar 18 22:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	dub ns1/2 are registered as ns's tho, pretty much every dns server should know them by ip
Mar 18 22:16:38 <dub>	no
Mar 18 22:16:40 <pgp>	I'm now getting: Moment poetic.
Mar 18 22:16:40 <pgp>	Octombrie 25, 2010 | Autor: Mircea Popescu
Mar 18 22:16:40 <pgp>	De-ai adormi iubito pe linia ferata
Mar 18 22:16:40 <pgp>	Imbujorate trenuri te-or ocoli tiptil
Mar 18 22:16:40 <pgp>	Din ceruri au sa ninga baloturi mari de vata
Mar 18 22:16:40 <pgp>	Vor fi betii de roua, se va dansa cadril.
Mar 18 22:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	pgp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHrt7Fc99Eo there. with music.
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Mar 18 22:17:28 <dub>	mircea_popescu: they will cache them for however long you instruct them to, then they will have to ask you again
Mar 18 22:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	dub right.
Mar 18 22:17:42 <dub>	but only after someone asks them
Mar 18 22:17:46 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 18 22:18:18 <dub>	anyone this doesnt work for do: dig +trace polimedia.us
Mar 18 22:18:29 <dub>	for me there is no 'glue' in the root
Mar 18 22:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	;; Received 228 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 49 ms
Mar 18 22:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	us.			172800	IN	NS	k.cctld.us.
Mar 18 22:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	us.			172800	IN	NS	e.cctld.us.
Mar 18 22:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	us.			172800	IN	NS	c.cctld.us.
Mar 18 22:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	us.			172800	IN	NS	f.cctld.us.
Mar 18 22:18:58 <gribble>	Error: "Received" is not a valid command.
Mar 18 22:18:59 <mircea_popescu>	us.			172800	IN	NS	a.cctld.us.
Mar 18 22:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	us.			172800	IN	NS	b.cctld.us.
Mar 18 22:19:13 <dub>	sorry, yes there is
Mar 18 22:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	;; Received 98 bytes from 156.154.127.70#53(c.cctld.us) in 50 ms
Mar 18 22:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	polimedia.us.		14400	IN	A	174.127.72.233
Mar 18 22:19:48 <gribble>	Error: "Received" is not a valid command.
Mar 18 22:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	it's there.
Mar 18 22:20:33 <jborkl>	mobile 4g service reaches it fine
Mar 18 22:20:37 <pgp>	mp: your creation?
Mar 18 22:21:27 <jborkl>	 ok back up on all ip tried
Mar 18 22:21:52 <dub>	mircea_popescu: anyway, use another domain for SOA
Mar 18 22:22:31 <mircea_popescu>	somebody fucked up their dns best i can determine atm.
Mar 18 22:22:31 <mircea_popescu>	possibly l3
Mar 18 22:22:49 <mircea_popescu>	polimedia IS another domain from mpex.co
Mar 18 22:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	pgp nah
Mar 18 22:24:29 <pgp>	lol
Mar 18 22:26:02 <dub>	except we cant reach mpex or polimedia
Mar 18 22:26:36 <dub>	http://www.webdnstools.com/dnstools/articles/glue_records
Mar 18 22:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	so what'd a diff domain help ?
Mar 18 22:26:48 <error4733>	NSA, grow up please !
Mar 18 22:27:12 <gigatube>	Call the system administrator!
Mar 18 22:27:23 <gigatube>	PC Load Letter!?!?
Mar 18 22:27:31 <dub>	its been a long time since I gave a shit about dns so I cannot elucidate
Mar 18 22:28:37 <dub>	being 7 hours into a fault bridge dun't help
Mar 18 22:29:32 <dub>	suffice to say you have engineered yourself a spiffing spof there
Mar 18 22:29:42 <mod6>	dig @a.cctld.us polimedia.us ANY << so if you dig here, you get the forward zone, its just the gtld-servers that don't return a valid pointer
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Mar 18 22:30:22 <mod6>	someone is doing something funny though
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Mar 18 22:31:33 <mod6>	same thing with this: dig @a.cctld.us mpex.co ANY
Mar 18 22:32:07 <mod6>	they both have the same NS entries
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Mar 18 22:37:26 <mod6>	werid.
Mar 18 22:37:41 <mod6>	mpexbot is still working as far as I can tell...
Mar 18 22:37:47 <dub>	I think his ns are just gettign hit
Mar 18 22:38:52 <the-bucket-shop>	;;ticker m s.dice
Mar 18 22:38:53 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Mar 18 22:39:08 <the-bucket-shop>	ticker m s.dice
Mar 18 22:39:24 <the-bucket-shop>	nope
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Mar 18 22:40:08 <mod6>	you gotta do:
Mar 18 22:40:12 <mod6>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 18 22:40:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6227 shares, 31.76 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514093 / 0.00599987 (75748 shares, 389.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609733 / 0.0069 (2299780 shares, 14,022.52 BTC)
Mar 18 22:40:23 <mod6>	and, yeah, i got a successful stat back
Mar 18 22:40:24 <the-bucket-shop>	thanks mod6
Mar 18 22:40:41 <mod6>	np
Mar 18 22:41:16 <mod6>	what's strange is that even if they're blasting his NS's and trying to poison them, that shouldn't effect the gltd??
Mar 18 22:41:35 <dub>	I dont think it is
Mar 18 22:41:42 <dub>	his ns are bork
Mar 18 22:41:54 <dub>	dig @63.247.64.93 polimedia.us ANY +short
Mar 18 22:42:00 <dub>	noerror but no record either
Mar 18 22:42:27 <dub>	but I'm seeing 25% PL to them too
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Mar 18 22:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	the obligatory tradehill bitchlsapping
Mar 18 22:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/children-and-their-delusions-today-jared-kenna-and-ryan-singer/
Mar 18 22:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	confirms that Chase Bank's website has indeed been hacked
Mar 18 22:47:45 <mod6>	dub: hmm. yeah i guess us and cc have they're own tld servers.
Mar 18 22:48:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [+]
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Mar 18 22:50:07 <mod6>	*their
Mar 18 22:50:16 <mod6>	doh!
Mar 18 22:50:33 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 54
Mar 18 22:50:46 <gribble>	There are currently 2699.4102 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 143185.579577 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Mar 18 22:51:17 <benkay>	those ripple weirdos, amirite?
Mar 18 22:51:25 <benkay>	i thought we were evolving past debt-based economies
Mar 18 22:51:36 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 60
Mar 18 22:51:37 <gribble>	There are currently 14956.903 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 851660.539216 USD in total. | Data vintage: 50.4408 seconds
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Mar 18 22:51:40 <benkay>	some of us are trying to i now understand
Mar 18 22:51:40 <mod6>	for the goats: http://youtu.be/LEP6-ICsjgg
Mar 18 22:52:00 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh i dont have flash installed :/
Mar 18 22:52:21 <mod6>	oh bummer, this is pretty funnay
Mar 18 22:52:35 <mod6>	i like the guy @ 1:20 or so, cracks me up
Mar 18 22:52:56 <mod6>	and by "guy" i mean the goat, not the actual human
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Mar 18 22:54:17 <Chaang-Noi>	im about 50% of each
Mar 18 22:54:26 <dub>	mod6: lol you suck
Mar 18 22:54:54 <dub>	people on this call thinking im nuts now
Mar 18 22:55:17 <olive_>	;;asks 53
Mar 18 22:55:19 <mod6>	dub haha wat?
Mar 18 22:55:26 <gribble>	There are currently 1728.8819 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 91113.8927114 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Mar 18 22:56:51 <mod6>	anyway, i guess im just dusty
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Mar 18 22:57:06 <mod6>	cuz back in the day they didn't have fancy ass tld's like co, or us lol
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Mar 18 22:57:39 <usagi>	Wow. So TU.SILVER is now the only legal coin shop in the community. CoinaBul and Amagi Metals are illegal because they dropship.
Mar 18 22:57:54 <usagi>	Unless I'm reading that wrong
Mar 18 22:58:26 <Chaang-Noi>	they are fail for drop shipping anyway
Mar 18 22:58:52 <Chaang-Noi>	if i was in the usa i would offer a much better service, i have shitloads of stuff in stock already
Mar 18 22:58:53 <benkay>	some bureaucrats won at making bitcoin welcome in america
Mar 18 22:59:06 <Chaang-Noi>	who?
Mar 18 22:59:10 <Chaang-Noi>	how what?
Mar 18 22:59:22 <benkay>	the fincen people
Mar 18 22:59:25 <benkay>	or whatever their name is
Mar 18 23:00:03 <benkay>	the way i see this is that some bureaucrats decided to let bitcoin grow on its own here
Mar 18 23:00:28 <Chaang-Noi>	im not in the loop i guess
Mar 18 23:00:51 <benkay>	http://t.co/UclT7bCmSe
Mar 18 23:00:54 <benkay>	hoho
Mar 18 23:01:00 <benkay>	don't click that link if you value your privacy
Mar 18 23:01:01 <BitHub>	 usa bitcoin companies are fucking idiots
Mar 18 23:01:02 <benkay>	sorry
Mar 18 23:01:09 <BitHub>	you idiots
Mar 18 23:01:25 <mod6>	*shrug*
Mar 18 23:01:28 <BitHub>	feel like herston at the end of planet of the apes
Mar 18 23:01:34 <BitHub>	you maniacs you blew it up
Mar 18 23:01:42 <benkay>	heh
Mar 18 23:01:53 <mod6>	why are yall worried?
Mar 18 23:01:59 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker m s.bbet
Mar 18 23:02:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)
Mar 18 23:02:28 <benkay>	the usg has a tendency to overreact, and may yet
Mar 18 23:02:40 <benkay>	but sometimes they let things be and try to just go after criminals
Mar 18 23:02:45 <benkay>	infrequently
Mar 18 23:02:59 <BitHub>	because bitcoin is going get gang banged by western laws and regulation
Mar 18 23:03:00 <mod6>	bah
Mar 18 23:03:03 <mod6>	who cares
Mar 18 23:03:04 <BitHub>	by end of the year
Mar 18 23:03:08 <benkay>	our government is like a pmsing older sister
Mar 18 23:03:11 <mod6>	they will try
Mar 18 23:03:13 <mod6>	and fail
Mar 18 23:03:25 <benkay>	sometimes arbitrarily bitchy
Mar 18 23:03:25 <BitHub>	they will fail if you're not based in usa
Mar 18 23:03:38 <benkay>	sometimes is like "hey kid have a joint"
Mar 18 23:03:42 <BitHub>	if your usa resident of usa bitcoin company consider yourself fucked
Mar 18 23:03:48 <BitHub>	or*
Mar 18 23:03:55 <benkay>	how so bh?
Mar 18 23:03:55 <Bugpowder>	I disagree
Mar 18 23:04:05 <benkay>	++bugpowder
Mar 18 23:04:06 <BitHub>	licences
Mar 18 23:04:07 <Bugpowder>	Regulations cost money
Mar 18 23:04:09 <Bugpowder>	BUT
Mar 18 23:04:09 <BitHub>	tax
Mar 18 23:04:25 <Bugpowder>	VC's have money and may have been waiting for legal guidanc
Mar 18 23:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	ok, dns poisoning should be clearing atm by special arrangementy
Mar 18 23:04:33 <benkay>	i don't need to not pay taxes to live off bitcoins
Mar 18 23:04:44 <mod6>	mp: sweet
Mar 18 23:04:49 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 18 23:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066743 / 0.00069359 / 0.00076717 (465282 shares, 322.72 BTC), 7D: 0.00066743 / 0.00071669 / 0.00077241 (2302852 shares, 1,650.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00070265 / 0.00078628 (40174787 shares, 28,229.00 BTC)
Mar 18 23:05:04 <Bugpowder>	The more clarity there is to the marketplace the more willing people are to invest and build companies
Mar 18 23:05:11 <benkay>	i don't need to not pay taxes to build profitable businesses period.
Mar 18 23:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder what's your read on the guidance ?
Mar 18 23:05:18 <BitHub>	just email the gov your wallet.dat file and give up
Mar 18 23:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	seems overall very positive.
Mar 18 23:05:24 <Bugpowder>	Great news for users
Mar 18 23:05:30 <Bugpowder>	OK for miners
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Mar 18 23:05:42 <benkay>	great for network. forces miners to spend in-network.
Mar 18 23:05:43 <Bugpowder>	cause who really is gonna hunt u down over 25BTC
Mar 18 23:05:50 <Bugpowder>	guilds might have an issue
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Mar 18 23:05:53 <benkay>	"forces"
Mar 18 23:05:54 <BitHub>	the gov gave up on google and apple
Mar 18 23:06:02 <BitHub>	and now going after everyone else
Mar 18 23:06:04 <Bugpowder>	so breaking up guilds is kinda good too.  BTCguild went over 40%
Mar 18 23:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	yah, a hidden gift in there
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Mar 18 23:06:29 <BitHub>	thank christ not a usa resident or usa bitcoin company
Mar 18 23:06:32 <benkay>	i want to meet the people who wrote those regulations
Mar 18 23:06:36 <mircea_popescu>	exchanges had to get cleanned up anyway
Mar 18 23:06:45 <Bugpowder>	Coinlab et al, is unclear.  Could be a tougher road, but leaves a path open.
Mar 18 23:07:00 <mircea_popescu>	On a more general note : the time of cowboy style, “one man and his hopes” fiat-BTC exchanges has passed. The exchange market is moving into a new phase. There is room on it for MtGox, on account of its old age and well known brand, and for people like the Frenchies doing that bitcoin-central partner-with-a-bank thing. All other exchanges are going out, and things being what they are the majority of them will be go
Mar 18 23:07:00 <mircea_popescu>	ing out uncleanly.
Mar 18 23:07:00 <mircea_popescu>	Because of this, keeping money in any other fiat-BTC exchanges than those two is pretty much cruisin’ for a bruisin’. Spot sellers may still be safe for a while, select ones may even be safe forever (as they’re a subset of the OTC style marketplace), but for better or worse cowboy exchanges are a thing of the past.
Mar 18 23:07:05 <mircea_popescu>	i love quoting myself!
Mar 18 23:07:05 <Bugpowder>	A real company will be able to pass regs
Mar 18 23:07:30 <BitHub>	yeah i cant wait to use paypal's bitcoin service
Mar 18 23:07:48 <benkay>	as a normal user it'll be perfect, bithub
Mar 18 23:07:53 <Bugpowder>	Dude.  If you hold coins now
Mar 18 23:07:56 <benkay>	its what they need
Mar 18 23:07:59 <BitHub>	i cant wait to have all the old dinosaur fucks involved
Mar 18 23:08:01 <Bugpowder>	and paypal starts a service
Mar 18 23:08:05 <Bugpowder>	you will be fucking rich
Mar 18 23:08:06 <mod6>	except when they "freeze" your private key lol
Mar 18 23:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	^ that.
Mar 18 23:08:18 <benkay>	yeah, but norms don't need to care about that
Mar 18 23:08:26 <mod6>	ok just send me ur btc plz
Mar 18 23:08:30 <Bugpowder>	I'm done selling coins
Mar 18 23:08:31 <BitHub>	i dont know
Mar 18 23:08:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 18 23:08:32 <BitHub>	honestly
Mar 18 23:08:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.74014, Best ask: 51.99996, Bid-ask spread: 0.25982, Last trade: 51.99998, 24 hour volume: 75673.06898668, 24 hour low: 47.20000, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.44165
Mar 18 23:08:42 <Bugpowder>	Regualtory pressure was my biggest worry
Mar 18 23:08:43 <BitHub>	if it hits 100 im cashing out for good
Mar 18 23:08:46 <BitHub>	and moving onto something else
Mar 18 23:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you're not alone let me tell you.
Mar 18 23:08:59 <error4733>	like satoshi
Mar 18 23:09:03 <BitHub>	move onto it quickly before it gets raped by western laws and regulation
Mar 18 23:09:20 <benkay>	i see a road to acceptance in america.
Mar 18 23:09:26 <Bugpowder>	Exactly
Mar 18 23:09:31 <benkay>	it'll be hard and it'll take leadership
Mar 18 23:09:33 <Bugpowder>	This the the DREAM act for bitcoin
Mar 18 23:09:39 <Bugpowder>	Amnesty!
Mar 18 23:09:43 <error4733>	yes
Mar 18 23:09:45 <dub>	uh wtf happened?
Mar 18 23:09:46 <error4733>	free card
Mar 18 23:09:48 <dub>	I missed it
Mar 18 23:09:55 <BitHub>	you'll just have the same old dinosaurs controlling bitcoin
Mar 18 23:09:56 <Bugpowder>	FinCEN issued guidance
Mar 18 23:10:01 <BitHub>	to be honest id rather go back to cash
Mar 18 23:10:02 <error4733>	btc is play money, enjoy
Mar 18 23:10:07 <dub>	link?
Mar 18 23:10:21 <BitHub>	what a joke
Mar 18 23:10:23 <Bugpowder>	I am 75% sure that IRS will issue tax guidance before year end too
Mar 18 23:10:26 <benkay>	someone put this into the title
Mar 18 23:10:27 <benkay>	http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html
Mar 18 23:10:45 <mod6>	no surrender imho
Mar 18 23:10:46 <benkay>	topic
Mar 18 23:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder if it reads like youi want it to read we're golden
Mar 18 23:10:48 <benkay>	whatever
Mar 18 23:11:06 <mod6>	no white flags, only black flags
Mar 18 23:11:06 <Bugpowder>	Not out of the woods yet
Mar 18 23:11:10 <Bugpowder>	I would keep my coins close
Mar 18 23:11:19 <BitHub>	this is only revelent to USA people right?
Mar 18 23:11:19 <Bugpowder>	don't leave them parked on exchances
Mar 18 23:11:23 <BitHub>	so i shouldn't give a shit?
Mar 18 23:11:32 <Bugpowder>	Naw...  Has major exchage rate implications
Mar 18 23:11:44 <BitHub>	bullshit man
Mar 18 23:11:45 <Bugpowder>	If it fucks liquidity that will be bad short term
Mar 18 23:11:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.831 BTC [-]
Mar 18 23:11:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.831 BTC [-]
Mar 18 23:11:59 <Bugpowder>	But I think the market will view as net positive
Mar 18 23:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	btc liquidity or fiat liquidity ?
Mar 18 23:12:06 <error4733>	they alway hit the money first (fiat
Mar 18 23:12:11 <Bugpowder>	USD -> BTC liquidity
Mar 18 23:12:18 <Bugpowder>	did they read on that?
Mar 18 23:12:22 <BitHub>	good luck trying to cash out 1 million dollars
Mar 18 23:12:23 <benkay>	"users of virtual currency"
Mar 18 23:12:24 <benkay>	i came
Mar 18 23:12:26 <BitHub>	straight to jail
Mar 18 23:12:28 <Bugpowder>	ore just BTC 0-> USD
Mar 18 23:12:40 <Bugpowder>	BitHub: You are delusional
Mar 18 23:12:45 <Bugpowder>	Cash out 1 million
Mar 18 23:12:50 <Bugpowder>	pay taxes
Mar 18 23:12:55 <BitHub>	why?
Mar 18 23:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	buy all the girls new tits.
Mar 18 23:12:58 <Bugpowder>	show where you bought it from
Mar 18 23:13:03 <Bugpowder>	don't go to jail
Mar 18 23:13:05 <mod6>	why would you want to cash out to near-worthless fiat?
Mar 18 23:13:17 <error4733>	touche
Mar 18 23:13:18 <Bugpowder>	mod6: Not worthless yet
Mar 18 23:13:18 <BitHub>	but why
Mar 18 23:13:24 <BitHub>	i'm not doing anything criminal
Mar 18 23:13:29 <error4733>	house, car ?
Mar 18 23:13:30 <Bugpowder>	Suppose you wanted to buy a Tesla.
Mar 18 23:13:38 <Bugpowder>	hypothetically
Mar 18 23:13:43 <BitHub>	tesla?
Mar 18 23:13:54 <Diablo-D3>	a car
Mar 18 23:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	suppose you want to give a girl a 2nd pair of tits.
Mar 18 23:13:58 <Bugpowder>	Elon has not responded to my tweets re: the Bitcoins for Tesla plan
Mar 18 23:14:03 <BitHub>	right
Mar 18 23:14:05 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: acccttuuuaaalllly
Mar 18 23:14:07 <Diablo-D3>	thats the funny thing
Mar 18 23:14:11 <BitHub>	BitHub paid for those tits
Mar 18 23:14:13 <Diablo-D3>	Elon likes Bitcoin but wont publically state it
Mar 18 23:14:22 <BitHub>	i'm a contractor for BitHub
Mar 18 23:14:23 <Bugpowder>	I should DM him
Mar 18 23:14:28 <Diablo-D3>	shit like this gives Elon a boner
Mar 18 23:14:37 <Bugpowder>	Got a friend who has dinner with him occasionally
Mar 18 23:14:45 <Bugpowder>	but, not me.
Mar 18 23:14:55 <benkay>	some friend
Mar 18 23:15:16 <Bugpowder>	Family at SpaceX
Mar 18 23:15:20 <BitHub>	so is the gov goign to tax me from my job or from bitcoin/
Mar 18 23:15:23 <BitHub>	or double dip
Mar 18 23:15:31 <Bugpowder>	double dip
Mar 18 23:15:35 <Bugpowder>	of course
Mar 18 23:15:35 <BitHub>	pffft
Mar 18 23:15:38 <BitHub>	fucking assholes
Mar 18 23:15:45 <BitHub>	anyway my wallet got hacked
Mar 18 23:15:51 <benkay>	;)
Mar 18 23:15:51 <BitHub>	sorry gov
Mar 18 23:15:58 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 18 23:16:01 <Bugpowder>	exactly
Mar 18 23:16:10 <Bugpowder>	Its the return of the Honest John system
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Mar 18 23:16:16 <BitHub>	lulz
Mar 18 23:16:17 <Bugpowder>	re: tax filing
Mar 18 23:16:23 <Bugpowder>	if you never cash
Mar 18 23:16:38 <BitHub>	yeah got to cash out secretly
Mar 18 23:16:41 <Bugpowder>	I might have to take down my localbitcoins profile though
Mar 18 23:16:43 <benkay>	that's what the irs ruling will determine
Mar 18 23:16:43 <BitHub>	like an actual drug deal
Mar 18 23:16:45 <BitHub>	jesus
Mar 18 23:16:56 <benkay>	or buy stuff with them
Mar 18 23:17:03 <dub>	why not just pay tax you fucking leeches
Mar 18 23:17:03 <benkay>	gott im himmel
Mar 18 23:17:09 <Bugpowder>	I am still waiting for my headphones
Mar 18 23:17:12 <dub>	you get a society, pay for it
Mar 18 23:17:14 <Bugpowder>	from bitcoinstore
Mar 18 23:17:23 <Bugpowder>	I don't mind paying 15%
Mar 18 23:17:27 <BitHub>	yeah dub's right we should pay tax on it to get more guns
Mar 18 23:17:32 <BitHub>	we don't have enough guns in america
Mar 18 23:17:32 <error4733>	i live in nigeria i dont have society
Mar 18 23:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	dub i don't mind paying whores, but only if they're on their knees.
Mar 18 23:17:34 <BitHub>	i don't feel safe
Mar 18 23:17:34 <Bugpowder>	I don't want to pay 39.8% + 13%
Mar 18 23:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	this society is too uppity.
Mar 18 23:17:58 <benkay>	you can also think about taxation as endorsing your local government
Mar 18 23:18:01 <BitHub>	why pay a middleman that does a shit job at creating a society?
Mar 18 23:18:03 <benkay>	do you?
Mar 18 23:18:09 <dub>	BitHub: I dont live in america, I pay tax to get healthcare, education, a working society
Mar 18 23:18:16 <BitHub>	me too
Mar 18 23:18:22 <BitHub>	its already at about 30-35 %
Mar 18 23:18:23 <benkay>	i don't
Mar 18 23:18:24 <dub>	and yes look after people less useful than me
Mar 18 23:18:27 <BitHub>	now they want more?
Mar 18 23:18:35 <dub>	but its cheaper to feed them than let them die
Mar 18 23:18:57 <dub>	I pay ~50% tax
Mar 18 23:19:00 <error4733>	be happy, you could leave in Cyprus
Mar 18 23:19:02 <BitHub>	its a sick joke anyway
Mar 18 23:19:23 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 30
Mar 18 23:19:28 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 30
Mar 18 23:19:30 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Mar 18 23:19:31 <gribble>	There are currently 148225.44 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 5579457.76514 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0145 seconds
Mar 18 23:19:33 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> but its cheaper to feed them than let them die <! ?what ?
Mar 18 23:19:40 <BitHub>	try and put real life bullshit rules on me
Mar 18 23:19:54 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 18 23:19:54 <gribble>	There are currently 57979983 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8084076.7019 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.3481 seconds
Mar 18 23:19:58 <Bugpowder>	8M
Mar 18 23:19:59 <dub>	mircea_popescu: having people dying about the place is a big burden on society
Mar 18 23:20:00 <Bugpowder>	lame
Mar 18 23:20:03 <Bugpowder>	stuck
Mar 18 23:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	dub ...
Mar 18 23:20:08 <Bugpowder>	at 8M
Mar 18 23:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	show how this costs money.
Mar 18 23:20:19 <benkay>	8m
Mar 18 23:20:23 <dub>	its cheaper to give them $20k/year to buy ciggaretes and gamble
Mar 18 23:20:27 <BitHub>	why don't the gov get their money off google and apple first
Mar 18 23:20:31 <BitHub>	get them to pay their proper tax
Mar 18 23:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	dub cheaper than what ?
Mar 18 23:20:34 <BitHub>	then we can talk
Mar 18 23:20:34 <Bugpowder>	not really.  Healthcare is the main gov cost
Mar 18 23:20:35 <Thinker>	its cheaper in the long run to let them die off
Mar 18 23:20:43 <Bugpowder>	or will be soon
Mar 18 23:20:45 <benkay>	big blowout around 10m
Mar 18 23:20:45 <BitHub>	fucking idiots
Mar 18 23:21:27 <dub>	mircea_popescu: cheaper than scraping them up out of teh gutter
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Mar 18 23:21:33 <BitHub>	so broke, they'll have to live by china's rules soon anyway
Mar 18 23:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	dub are you kidding ?
Mar 18 23:21:40 <dub>	not at all
Mar 18 23:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	you can do that with power tools, costs nothing per pound
Mar 18 23:21:50 <dub>	its also a shitload cheapt than sticking them in prison
Mar 18 23:21:54 <dub>	cheaper*
Mar 18 23:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	and the value of me showing random forum idiots what happens iof they continue is > 9000
Mar 18 23:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	this is the problem with unbeaten children and "everyone living comfortably"
Mar 18 23:22:32 <mircea_popescu>	there's no motivation left.
Mar 18 23:22:35 <dub>	well the reality is this shit is factually correct
Mar 18 23:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	and without motivation there's no education.
Mar 18 23:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	dub not rly. you just want it to be correct so as not to be forced to reevaluate the coolaid you've been fed.
Mar 18 23:23:01 <Thinker>	cut off the entitlements.  that will make them choose between work or death.  remove the safety nets that are being used like hammocks.
Mar 18 23:23:10 <dub>	no, I understand the economics of it
Mar 18 23:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	mkay.
Mar 18 23:23:19 <dub>	what you are advocating for is america
Mar 18 23:23:23 <dub>	and that is clearly working well
Mar 18 23:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
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Mar 18 23:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	i mean forget the strawmen and red herrings for a second.
Mar 18 23:24:11 <mircea_popescu>	the cost of pushing dead bodies with a bulldozer vs the cost of pretending like the idiots are people.
Mar 18 23:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	five degrees of magnitude ? six ? nine ?
Mar 18 23:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	stick to the economics of it.
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Mar 18 23:24:56 <dub>	the problem is pushign the dead into a hole is not the only cost, there is fallout
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Mar 18 23:25:22 <BitHub>	here we go again, make something illegal for the lil guys, but really expensive licencing for the big boys
Mar 18 23:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	dub so you posit.
Mar 18 23:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	familiar with the millions for defense but not a penny in bribes line ?
Mar 18 23:26:25 <BitHub>	would you pay a guy alot of your money if all he did was cockblock you from a really hot girl all the time?
Mar 18 23:26:27 <Bugpowder>	How expensive will this licensing actually be?
Mar 18 23:26:36 <dub>	ok, perhaps the problem is that we are already at a toage of societal evolution where reverting ro your ideal is not feasable
Mar 18 23:26:40 <BitHub>	expensive, bet your ass on that
Mar 18 23:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	dub let's find out shall we.
Mar 18 23:27:21 <BitHub>	Money Transmitter license
Mar 18 23:27:22 <dub>	not without some genocide at the front
Mar 18 23:27:27 <Bugpowder>	Lawyers are expensive, but its still pretty hard to hit $1MM on a single tranactional licensing setup
Mar 18 23:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	as long as i got the money you're not telling me what's feasible.
Mar 18 23:27:32 <Thinker>	How do you feel about your tax dollars supporting guys like this that are so pathetic they can't even move their bodies down to Walmart to wait in line to buy Diablo 3:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJtDUZMSOBw
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Mar 18 23:28:03 <BitHub>	tax is just another life's scams
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Mar 18 23:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is pretty much the end of mandatory taxation. society will have to cope.
Mar 18 23:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	you want to be helped, give me a good reason.
Mar 18 23:30:18 <Thinker>	mircea_popescu:  exactly.
Mar 18 23:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	that starts with doing an excellent cocksucking job.
Mar 18 23:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	it does NOT start with threatening me.
Mar 18 23:30:32 <benkay>	haha
Mar 18 23:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	i'll just have you shot, a bullet is cheaper.
Mar 18 23:30:36 <benkay>	government's that actually work
Mar 18 23:30:42 <benkay>	derp
Mar 18 23:30:46 <benkay>	governments
Mar 18 23:30:52 <benkay>	shit yeah oh i totally get it
Mar 18 23:30:58 <benkay>	government as a service
Mar 18 23:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Mar 18 23:31:07 <mircea_popescu>	police wants money ? start asking people to donate.
Mar 18 23:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	you piss people off ? guess what. no budget.
Mar 18 23:31:13 <BitHub>	your first statement mircea brings me alot of relief
Mar 18 23:31:19 <benkay>	hohohohoho
Mar 18 23:31:20 <Thinker>	socialism ("free" stuff from government) disrupts natural selection.
Mar 18 23:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	watch cops help old ladies cross the street on this model.
Mar 18 23:31:40 <dub>	socialism does nto provide free stuff
Mar 18 23:31:42 <benkay>	cops may actually have to engage in dialogue with citizens
Mar 18 23:31:51 <benkay>	about what should be enforced
Mar 18 23:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	benkay yes. with their hats in their hands.
Mar 18 23:31:52 <BitHub>	intead of just beating them?
Mar 18 23:31:59 <Thinker>	cops will realize that yes, we are their boss and not the other way around.
Mar 18 23:32:00 <Bugpowder>	There are almost 40,000 registered money transmitters in the US
Mar 18 23:32:06 <benkay>	mind = blown
Mar 18 23:32:11 <dub>	and cops are already scum of the earth
Mar 18 23:32:14 <Bugpowder>	It costs $1000 to register in Washington state
Mar 18 23:32:16 <Bugpowder>	http://mortgage.nationwidelicensingsystem.org/slr/PublishedStateDocuments/WA-Currency-Exchange-Company-New-App-Checklist.pdf
Mar 18 23:32:19 <benkay>	ahaha
Mar 18 23:32:21 <benkay>	and
Mar 18 23:32:22 <benkay>	AND
Mar 18 23:32:27 <dub>	if you are not good at anything you become a cop or a teacher
Mar 18 23:32:30 <Bugpowder>	first thing I found
Mar 18 23:32:32 <benkay>	departments aren't interdependent
Mar 18 23:32:41 <benkay>	forest service can accept "tithe"
Mar 18 23:32:45 <benkay>	or whatever
Mar 18 23:32:51 <benkay>	so can dod
Mar 18 23:32:53 <benkay>	nsa
Mar 18 23:32:56 <benkay>	omgomgomgomg
Mar 18 23:32:57 <Thinker>	dub: well said
Mar 18 23:32:57 <dub>	if you can handle a mop you go into the janitorial arts which probalby pays better
Mar 18 23:33:01 <Bugpowder>	SO..... If coinlab can't handle something of this moderate level of effort and cost, I don't want to deal with them
Mar 18 23:33:27 <Thinker>	i know how we can get more people employed.  eliminate minimum wage and entitlements.
Mar 18 23:33:33 <benkay>	i haven't felt like this since reading ayn rand as a wee one
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Mar 18 23:33:38 <Bugpowder>	LOL
Mar 18 23:33:59 <dub>	benkay: thats all well and good, but really you are just reinventing states
Mar 18 23:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	dub nope. the us is puritan-stupid, for one.
Mar 18 23:34:31 <benkay>	one must keep riff raff like you out
Mar 18 23:34:36 <BitHub>	so you just need a 1000$ licence?
Mar 18 23:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	and moreover, they're about as socialist as the uk by now
Mar 18 23:35:11 <benkay>	this enables sea farming
Mar 18 23:35:14 <Bugpowder>	So, my reading of the FinCEN guidance is more positive now that it is established that it costs $1000 to register in WA.  I don't know if that let's you operate in other states as well, but if you need to register in all states then lets say $50,000 and a pain in the ass.
Mar 18 23:35:43 <BitHub>	and pay coporate tax
Mar 18 23:35:51 <Bugpowder>	BitHub: Looks like it.  It would take some lawyer time to make sure the t's are crossed and i's dotted.
Mar 18 23:36:09 <BitHub>	and lawyer fees
Mar 18 23:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... bitbet dividends for march revised upwards.
Mar 18 23:36:23 <Bugpowder>	Sure.  But this is PEANUTS for a real company
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Mar 18 23:36:35 <BitHub>	right
Mar 18 23:36:37 <Bugpowder>	Series A should cover it an amore
Mar 18 23:36:42 <Bugpowder>	and more
Mar 18 23:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	on top of 20+ btc expected from bet resolutions there's about 10btc or so coming from people who tried to leech the btc/usd rate bet and got in too late.
Mar 18 23:37:11 <BitHub>	so better to have paypal in there then say give me a go
Mar 18 23:37:15 <mod6>	they tried to game the weight along side of the exchange rate?
Mar 18 23:37:39 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 yeah.
Mar 18 23:37:46 <mod6>	anyway, thats interesting. thanks for the heads up mp.
Mar 18 23:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's reallty delicious when wanna-be cheaters get rammed.
Mar 18 23:38:08 <mod6>	=)
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Mar 18 23:40:33 <mod6>	mpex.co seems to work fine for me over http now
Mar 18 23:40:37 <mod6>	btw
Mar 18 23:40:45 <benkay>	;;goxlag
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Mar 18 23:41:09 <usagi>	Oh? I thought bets like that got refunded.
Mar 18 23:41:17 <usagi>	Glad I'm a bitbet shareholder :>
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Mar 18 23:41:42 <mod6>	!ticker m ^OIX
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Mar 18 23:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 37.53972864 / 42.55721868 / 57.53184036 (20165 shares, 3,142.64 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 18 23:42:00 <kakobrekla>	they are refunded if they come before bet is closed but after the event
Mar 18 23:42:08 <kakobrekla>	if the bet is already closed
Mar 18 23:42:11 <kakobrekla>	then no.
Mar 18 23:42:13 <usagi>	lol
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Mar 18 23:45:28 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker m s.bbet
Mar 18 23:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)
Mar 18 23:45:41 <kakobrekla>	!l m s.bbet
Mar 18 23:45:42 <assbot>	Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.0018 BTC [+]
Mar 18 23:45:50 <mod6>	nice kakobrekla
Mar 18 23:46:16 <kakobrekla>	:p
Mar 18 23:46:32 <mod6>	need a volume data point maybe
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Mar 18 23:47:04 <kakobrekla>	you can only abuse it 3 million times
Mar 18 23:47:18 <mod6>	heheh
Mar 18 23:49:50 <kakobrekla>	> however this stock is going to be better than fiat.
Mar 18 23:50:00 <kakobrekla>	chang you are full of wisdom
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Mar 18 23:50:15 <kakobrekla>	dog shit is better than fiat.
Mar 18 23:50:24 <kakobrekla>	at least you can fertilize
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Mar 18 23:53:20 <mod6>	growing up here in the U.S. I was taught to hate all paper currency that wasn't backed by sound money. but then they go, "well, except we don't have the ``gold-standard'' any more since they went off the Bretton Woods system." "Ummm.. so what do they do now???" "Well they say we have this petro-dollar"...
Mar 18 23:54:08 <mod6>	"ok so why did we go off the gold standard?" "to pay for the vietnam war.." "so what do we do when it goes to 0?" "hopefully that'll be long after we're gone..."
Mar 18 23:54:24 <mod6>	lol
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Mar 18 23:57:42 <mod6>	when I saw this, I knew it was only a matter of time: http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/2009/1101091228_400.jpg
Mar 18 23:58:08 <kakobrekla>	heh
Mar 18 23:58:46 <mod6>	it was obviously doomed for 30 years before that... but still.  that seemed like the final nail in the monitization coffin.
Mar 19 00:00:27 <usagi>	mod6; notice how the text under bernanke's picture can be taken as "the dog”
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Mar 19 00:00:41 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: yeah basically, we need to go back ON the gold standard
Mar 19 00:00:45 <usagi>	and not just a fragment of “one dollar”
Mar 19 00:00:50 <Diablo-D3>	which will be very expensive
Mar 19 00:00:52 <Diablo-D3>	but it must be done
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Mar 19 00:01:44 <mod6>	im not sure that going back to gold is realistic until they can sort out how much each country actually has on balance sheet.
Mar 19 00:01:56 <mod6>	and with all of the bars out in lease or floating somewhere in the ether....
Mar 19 00:02:29 <mod6>	satoshi could be a good way to tie the dollar to something with intristic value.
Mar 19 00:02:39 <mod6>	1 satoshi = 1 USD
Mar 19 00:02:56 <benkay>	hahahahaha
Mar 19 00:03:22 <mod6>	i know right benkay!
Mar 19 00:03:46 <mod6>	usagi: hah, it does look like it says that, nearly
Mar 19 00:04:35 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: thats very easy to do, really
Mar 19 00:04:58 <Diablo-D3>	have the UN implement mandatory gold checks
Mar 19 00:05:01 <mod6>	i think so, but... there is still the mystery of when the USD will take its haircut
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Mar 19 00:05:34 <mod6>	well... im not sure about the actual phyiscal gold. im sure countries will play the 10 year run around game there... and they don't have 10 years to work with.
Mar 19 00:06:19 <benkay>	here's a fun theoretical question: if i were in a country with a rapidly encrappifying currency, how would I turn that into bitcoins, and who in the country would sell them to me?
Mar 19 00:07:04 <benkay>	*crickets*
Mar 19 00:07:14 <mod6>	at some point you'll get price destruction and people will be forced to trade down for them or horde them.
Mar 19 00:08:22 <benkay>	turn them into property?
Mar 19 00:08:24 <benkay>	cars?
Mar 19 00:08:33 <mod6>	or yah, barter trade
Mar 19 00:08:44 <benkay>	arrive after currency crash
Mar 19 00:08:45 <kakobrekla>	cars are shit.
Mar 19 00:08:47 <benkay>	buy everything with btc
Mar 19 00:09:47 <mod6>	(21:04) < Diablo-D3> have the UN implement mandatory gold checks << this is way easier said than done too. no one likes the blue-hats first off, and second, they'll just cook the books or pour more tunsten bars.
Mar 19 00:10:34 <mod6>	just my 0.00000002 :}
Mar 19 00:12:03 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: the tungsten bars issue is different
Mar 19 00:12:13 <Diablo-D3>	we're actually scared shitless that some of the gold the US government still does have isnt gold
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Mar 19 00:12:22 <Diablo-D3>	the euro governments and major banks are worried too
Mar 19 00:12:34 <mod6>	yeah, hell, they should be worried.
Mar 19 00:13:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 00:13:02 <Diablo-D3>	it SHOUlDNT be a problem with governments that mint their own gold
Mar 19 00:13:02 <gribble>	0.053894 seconds
Mar 19 00:13:04 <mod6>	do you remember just before september 11th, when who was it? Rumsfeld? came out on tv and was like "ummmm somehow we lost 1.2 trillion dollars..."
Mar 19 00:13:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 00:13:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.50700, Best ask: 51.58996, Bid-ask spread: 0.08296, Last trade: 51.58999, 24 hour volume: 77769.86904570, 24 hour low: 47.20000, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.54567
Mar 19 00:13:12 <mod6>	"don't know how, but it just went POOF"...
Mar 19 00:13:19 <Diablo-D3>	woah shit, we just went past 51
Mar 19 00:13:20 <Diablo-D3>	er
Mar 19 00:13:21 <Diablo-D3>	past 50
Mar 19 00:13:31 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: thats not quite what he said though
Mar 19 00:13:46 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: the thing is, US held gold comes straight from the mint
Mar 19 00:13:52 <Diablo-D3>	and I trust US gold implicitly
Mar 19 00:14:00 <mod6>	omg why?
Mar 19 00:14:11 <Diablo-D3>	I didnt say I'd pay over spot price for it
Mar 19 00:14:13 <Diablo-D3>	I just said I trust it
Mar 19 00:14:38 <Diablo-D3>	the problem comes from how did the US get bars that arent gold from its own mint
Mar 19 00:14:42 <mod6>	well, he might have not said exactly that, but with a government that just "misplaces" trillions of currency, doesn't leave much for trust.
Mar 19 00:14:56 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: they didnt mistplace it, they found an error in the books
Mar 19 00:15:00 <Diablo-D3>	and we actually know where it went
Mar 19 00:15:06 <Diablo-D3>	the federal reserve loaned it to china off the books
Mar 19 00:15:14 <mod6>	oh. did it go back to the tax payers?
Mar 19 00:15:18 <Diablo-D3>	its where china got all the money to loan it back to the US government at a higher interest rate
Mar 19 00:15:23 <mod6>	oh .cn
Mar 19 00:15:32 <Diablo-D3>	its part of a larger plan to basically enslave china for the next 100 years
Mar 19 00:15:40 <mod6>	jeeze. so they raped us with our own money that they stole
Mar 19 00:15:45 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: nope
Mar 19 00:15:55 <Diablo-D3>	they cant afford to pay us back
Mar 19 00:15:58 <Diablo-D3>	we CAN afford to pay them back
Mar 19 00:16:16 <Diablo-D3>	and we collapsed the chinese economy on purpose to do that
Mar 19 00:16:36 <mod6>	well, it sounds like they've got serious problems over there now too.. so *shrug*
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Mar 19 00:17:56 <mod6>	(21:13) < Diablo-D3> and I trust US gold implicitly << the allure of btc is that you can't fake btc. there is a big worry about tungsten in the gold around here.
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Mar 19 00:18:13 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: yes, but I treat btc as digital gold
Mar 19 00:18:17 <mod6>	i mean, not the only worry, but one of them
Mar 19 00:18:20 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: and not all gold is gold to begin with
Mar 19 00:18:28 <Diablo-D3>	paladium and platinum is fine too
Mar 19 00:18:28 <mod6>	wat?
Mar 19 00:18:43 <mod6>	oh ur just sayin pm's in general.
Mar 19 00:18:57 <Diablo-D3>	kind of
Mar 19 00:19:05 <Diablo-D3>	Im excluding silver on purpose
Mar 19 00:19:23 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: but yeah
Mar 19 00:19:26 <Diablo-D3>	gold doesnt NEED to be unsafe
Mar 19 00:19:32 <Diablo-D3>	I could literally mint my own gold, for example
Mar 19 00:19:45 <Diablo-D3>	there are non-government mints that are trusted among collectors
Mar 19 00:19:48 <kakobrekla>	why do you exclude silver
Mar 19 00:19:54 <kakobrekla>	cause usagi?
Mar 19 00:19:56 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: market is too volatile
Mar 19 00:20:02 <Diablo-D3>	what did usagi do?
Mar 19 00:20:16 <kakobrekla>	hes the king of silver i herd.
Mar 19 00:20:33 <mod6>	thats part of what im saying, im not sure they ever want to go back to gold or any pm for it'll crush the JPM and US Tresuries short positions in the paper metal market.
Mar 19 00:20:52 <mod6>	*Treasury's
Mar 19 00:21:01 <kakobrekla>	05:19.52 ( Diablo-D3 ) kakobrekla: market is too volatile <- you do realize this is bitcoin related chan
Mar 19 00:21:15 <kakobrekla>	?
Mar 19 00:21:58 <mod6>	but the USD haircut is coming.
Mar 19 00:22:00 <mod6>	make no mistake
Mar 19 00:22:08 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: yeah, but its not BTC thats volatile
Mar 19 00:22:10 <Diablo-D3>	its the USD that is
Mar 19 00:22:15 <mod6>	and after that, it might make more sense to go back to a sound-money system. but until after that, not really.
Mar 19 00:22:20 <kakobrekla>	;;slap Diablo-D3
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Mar 19 00:22:34 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: BTC is standing perfectly still
Mar 19 00:22:39 <Diablo-D3>	its the rest of the world thats moving
Mar 19 00:22:49 <Diablo-D3>	at a fixed amount of 21m, BTC cant move.
Mar 19 00:22:57 <kakobrekla>	imma gonna ad a rule "no crazy ppl"
Mar 19 00:23:28 <mod6>	awe
Mar 19 00:23:29 <Diablo-D3>	gold can still move downwards through inflation by increasing the amount of monetary gold in existence
Mar 19 00:23:50 <kakobrekla>	if bitcoin is still, silver has been no more volatile than silver
Mar 19 00:23:58 <kakobrekla>	so your argument is moot
Mar 19 00:24:04 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: what we're watching is simply people measuring how far bitcoin is away from USD
Mar 19 00:24:04 <kakobrekla>	heres a sock on the head.
Mar 19 00:24:16 <Diablo-D3>	and they keep needing bigger measuring tapes
Mar 19 00:24:32 <kakobrekla>	i thought we were watching someone on lsd
Mar 19 00:24:49 <smickles>	< kakobrekla> heres a sock on the head. << i beg your pardon?
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Mar 19 00:24:58 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: compared to the other three precious metals, silver is volatile
Mar 19 00:25:01 <Diablo-D3>	its also not worth enough
Mar 19 00:25:07 <Diablo-D3>	for large scale storage, silver takes up too much room
Mar 19 00:25:11 <kakobrekla>	silver vs btc / gold vs btc
Mar 19 00:25:13 <Diablo-D3>	if I wanted to do that, I'd actually switch to copper
Mar 19 00:25:15 <kakobrekla>	not a big difference
Mar 19 00:25:24 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: no, the difference is extremely small
Mar 19 00:25:29 <smickles>	wait, there are only 3 precious metals?
Mar 19 00:25:30 <kakobrekla>	smickles do you bake well?
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Mar 19 00:25:52 <smickles>	kakobrekla: yeah, but my wife doesn't let me
Mar 19 00:26:01 <kakobrekla>	darn.
Mar 19 00:26:04 <Diablo-D3>	hah
Mar 19 00:26:26 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
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Mar 19 00:26:32 <Diablo-D3>	where can I find the cost of copper per ounce?
Mar 19 00:26:45 <kakobrekla>	google
Mar 19 00:26:47 <Chaang-Noi>	coinflation.com ?
Mar 19 00:26:48 <smickles>	;;google spot copper
Mar 19 00:26:49 <gribble>	Kitco - Spot Copper Historical Charts and Graphs - Copper charts ...: <http://www.kitcometals.com/charts/copper_historical_large.html>; Copper Prices - Today's Spot Copper Price Chart - TheStreet: <http://www.thestreet.com/topic/45621/copper-price.html>; Copper Spot Price & Chart | Mining Investor: <http://www.mininginvestor.net/copper-spot-price-chart/>
Mar 19 00:26:51 <Chaang-Noi>	or yeah google lol
Mar 19 00:27:05 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi, Diablo-D3 is new.
Mar 19 00:27:14 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 19 00:27:21 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: I use apmex's chart for the main four
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Mar 19 00:27:40 <Diablo-D3>	didnt know they had spot charts for non-precious metals
Mar 19 00:27:44 <Chaang-Noi>	Copper $3.4276/lb down 0.0863
Mar 19 00:27:49 <Chaang-Noi>	from coinflation.com
Mar 19 00:28:03 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: there are spot charts for all traded commodities
Mar 19 00:28:11 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: even bacon?
Mar 19 00:28:15 <kakobrekla>	even dog shit.
Mar 19 00:28:25 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: wow, Congress must be rich
Mar 19 00:28:32 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: well, bacon is retail, not commodity
Mar 19 00:28:45 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: if its not a commodity, why do I keep running out of it :<
Mar 19 00:28:48 <kakobrekla>	dog shit to bull shit downn from 1.62 to 1.5
Mar 19 00:28:57 <kakobrekla>	buy time
Mar 19 00:29:04 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: no one buys their shit
Mar 19 00:29:06 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: not all bacon is interchangeable, therefore, not commodity
Mar 19 00:29:14 <Chaang-Noi>	there are charts for porkbellies, no joke
Mar 19 00:29:30 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: and let me guess, its going up and not down?
Mar 19 00:29:32 <Chaang-Noi>	very related to bacon
Mar 19 00:29:33 <smickles>	yeah, porkbellies are interchangeable,
Mar 19 00:29:39 <Chaang-Noi>	trend is up yeah...
Mar 19 00:29:45 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, fucking food prices
Mar 19 00:29:53 <Diablo-D3>	its going to be hilarious when the market crashes
Mar 19 00:30:03 <mod6>	it was cool with MPEx had it's commodities futures
Mar 19 00:30:07 <Chaang-Noi>	the market? you mean nyse?
Mar 19 00:30:17 <Diablo-D3>	no, I mean the supermarket
Mar 19 00:30:25 <Diablo-D3>	more and more people are getting off the junk food diet
Mar 19 00:30:27 <Chaang-Noi>	the supermarket will crash?
Mar 19 00:30:40 <Diablo-D3>	so several major companies are really going to start hurting
Mar 19 00:30:50 <kakobrekla>	O_O
Mar 19 00:30:51 <Chaang-Noi>	dude, people have to eat
Mar 19 00:31:04 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: in the US, theres a major change where people are switching to paleo-type diets and buying locally
Mar 19 00:31:24 <Diablo-D3>	they buy from farmers markets and road side stands or directly from the farm and have it delivered
Mar 19 00:31:27 <Chaang-Noi>	in what 5% of the people do that with 5% of their food, lulz
Mar 19 00:31:34 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: its more and more
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Mar 19 00:31:41 <Diablo-D3>	its cheaper to buy that way
Mar 19 00:31:46 <Diablo-D3>	and you get higher quality food
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Mar 19 00:31:54 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i know but still...; my parents bought a cow, a whole fucking cow, no joke
Mar 19 00:32:06 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yeah, if I had a full sized freezer, I would too
Mar 19 00:32:10 <Diablo-D3>	you can get it $2 pound or less
Mar 19 00:32:14 <Chaang-Noi>	said the electric and the two frezers were still worth it
Mar 19 00:32:28 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, high efficiency freezers are very cheap to run now
Mar 19 00:32:39 <Diablo-D3>	you can get ones that are amazingly efficient now
Mar 19 00:32:39 <Chaang-Noi>	they are on their second cow now, first one lasted almost 2.5 years
Mar 19 00:32:44 *	kakobrekla presses the button for topic reset
Mar 19 00:32:53 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 19 00:32:57 <kakobrekla>	cows and freezers.
Mar 19 00:33:02 <kakobrekla>	srsly.
Mar 19 00:33:08 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: money is money
Mar 19 00:33:10 <Diablo-D3>	and people have to eat
Mar 19 00:33:12 <Chaang-Noi>	better than goats and freezers
Mar 19 00:34:09 <Chaang-Noi>	so the govt rules on bitcoin, that is pretty cool
Mar 19 00:34:21 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe one day mutual funds will be able to invest in btc
Mar 19 00:34:47 <Chaang-Noi>	toss 10 billion or so into btc and price goes to the moon:)
Mar 19 00:35:09 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Mar 19 00:36:38 <Chaang-Noi>	wish we were still talking about cows...
Mar 19 00:36:54 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: I just had some steak
Mar 19 00:37:02 <Diablo-D3>	should have marrinated it
Mar 19 00:37:15 <Diablo-D3>	I finished off the porterhouses I picked up cheap
Mar 19 00:37:19 <Chaang-Noi>	had some last night, thai steak is not good...
Mar 19 00:37:44 <Chaang-Noi>	coming from kansas city... it is hard
Mar 19 00:37:55 <Diablo-D3>	so Im gnawing on shoulder steaks
Mar 19 00:38:09 <Diablo-D3>	they's not tough per say, and still quite juicy and flavorful
Mar 19 00:38:23 <Diablo-D3>	the problem is with the stripes of fat theres gristle
Mar 19 00:38:37 <Diablo-D3>	and the fat isn't as smooth as it could be
Mar 19 00:38:49 <Chaang-Noi>	toss it in a blender ?
Mar 19 00:38:59 <Diablo-D3>	hurr
Mar 19 00:39:08 <Chaang-Noi>	add a little milk and icecream
Mar 19 00:39:12 <Chaang-Noi>	not bad
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Mar 19 00:48:12 <kakobrekla>	milk.
Mar 19 00:48:14 <smickles>	$markov cows
Mar 19 00:48:15 <mpexbot>	smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 19 00:48:18 <smickles>	:(
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Mar 19 00:49:28 <smickles>	$markov cows
Mar 19 00:49:28 <mpexbot>	smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 19 00:49:37 <smickles>	:(, he's dead
Mar 19 00:51:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [+]
Mar 19 00:57:03 <mod6>	;;ticker
Mar 19 00:57:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.23987, Best ask: 51.74013, Bid-ask spread: 0.50026, Last trade: 51.74013, 24 hour volume: 80314.29010403, 24 hour low: 47.20000, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.62317
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Mar 19 01:12:15 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Mar 19 01:12:17 <Diablo-D3>	what the fuck?
Mar 19 01:12:23 <Diablo-D3>	platinum prices are below gold prices now
Mar 19 01:12:27 <Diablo-D3>	when the fuck did that become a thing
Mar 19 01:12:46 <smickles>	you can't tell from the chart?
Mar 19 01:13:02 <Diablo-D3>	that was a rhetorical question
Mar 19 01:13:20 <Diablo-D3>	I think I can safely say gold is now overpriced
Mar 19 01:14:17 <kakobrekla>	its possible banks are gonna be grabbing it
Mar 19 01:14:23 <kakobrekla>	so it will go up
Mar 19 01:15:20 <usagi>	Diablo that happened months ago iirc
Mar 19 01:15:41 <usagi>	kako btw; princess of silver. Not king. ;-)
Mar 19 01:16:17 <kakobrekla>	sry.
Mar 19 01:16:26 <Namworld>	odd... I just noticed that recently too, Diablo
Mar 19 01:16:44 <Namworld>	like some day this week
Mar 19 01:16:50 <Namworld>	Found it odd too.
Mar 19 01:17:17 <usagi>	http://howestreet.com/2013/01/platinum-overtakes-gold-at-last/
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Mar 19 02:14:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8599 = 8.599 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 02:39:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.004701 = 0.094 BTC [-]
Mar 19 02:40:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0047 = 0.0235 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 02:58:16 <pigeons>	;;seen topace
Mar 19 02:58:16 <gribble>	topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 13 hours, 12 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <topace> !ticker h sdice
Mar 19 03:01:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 693 @ 0.0007453 = 0.5165 BTC [-]
Mar 19 03:01:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.8599 = 5.1594 BTC [-]
Mar 19 03:01:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.8599 = 17.198 BTC [-]
Mar 19 03:02:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.86 = 6.02 BTC [+]
Mar 19 03:03:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.86 = 2.58 BTC [+]
Mar 19 03:04:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [-]
Mar 19 03:05:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 03:11:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [+]
Mar 19 03:11:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 03:19:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0051 = 3.06 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 03:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5677 @ 0.00074404 = 4.2239 BTC [-]
Mar 19 03:23:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 03:31:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.83 = 1.66 BTC [-]
Mar 19 03:33:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [-]
Mar 19 03:34:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.19264 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 03:38:26 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 03:38:26 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 19 03:39:35 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Mar 19 03:39:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.89994, Best ask: 51.98899, Bid-ask spread: 0.08905, Last trade: 51.89993, 24 hour volume: 82990.92065024, 24 hour low: 47.25000, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.80443
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Mar 19 03:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1873 @ 0.00074625 = 1.3977 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 04:13:43 <Anduck>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 19 04:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6827 shares, 34.82 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514061 / 0.00599987 (76348 shares, 392.48 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609701 / 0.0069 (2300180 shares, 14,024.24 BTC)
Mar 19 04:18:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1544 @ 0.00073702 = 1.138 BTC [-]
Mar 19 04:18:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7570 @ 0.00073701 = 5.5792 BTC [-]
Mar 19 04:32:19 <Chaang-Noi>	damn i should buy some platinum...
Mar 19 04:32:41 <Chaang-Noi>	or maybe not, its not like people are making cars... :/
Mar 19 04:33:35 <Chaang-Noi>	wtf is palladium so damn high
Mar 19 04:33:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i remeber buying it at 180
Mar 19 04:34:15 <Chaang-Noi>	Rhodium 	is cheap too, hmm
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Mar 19 04:48:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5827 @ 0.0007431 = 4.33 BTC [+]
Mar 19 04:49:12 <Namworld>	Looks like I'm only earning 4 BTC weekly on my stuff...
Mar 19 04:52:43 <Namworld>	Seems little.
Mar 19 04:52:55 <Namworld>	Guess I need to keep working on my portfolio.
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Mar 19 05:08:37 <Chaang-Noi>	$800 a month not bad, but why not just asicminer? :)
Mar 19 05:26:26 *	Ukto points to a basket full of eggs
Mar 19 05:26:30 *	Ukto shrugs
Mar 19 05:50:39 <Namworld>	I got a bit of ASICMINER. Not enough in my taste but anyway.
Mar 19 05:51:42 <Namworld>	I'll be heading off.
Mar 19 05:51:56 <Namworld>	5:51 am already...
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Mar 19 06:03:30 <dub>	!ticket btctc ASICMINER-PT
Mar 19 06:03:36 <dub>	!ticker btctc ASICMINER-PT
Mar 19 06:03:38 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.82 / 0.85386 / 0.870899 (86 shares, 73.4 BTC),  7D: 0.695 / 0.79714 / 0.9489 (1507 shares, 1201.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.74566 / 1 (2960 shares, 2207.2 BTC)
Mar 19 06:04:10 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 53
Mar 19 06:04:15 <gribble>	There are currently 921.05612 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 48812.979279 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Mar 19 06:04:17 <Chaang-Noi>	;;last
Mar 19 06:04:17 <gribble>	[03:04:10] <Chaang-Noi> ;;asks 53
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Mar 19 06:05:07 <BitHub>	batch 3 worth getting?
Mar 19 06:07:49 <Chaang-Noi>	avalon?
Mar 19 06:08:03 <BitHub>	yeah
Mar 19 06:08:17 <Chaang-Noi>	without doing the math and the guess work, i would say i think so
Mar 19 06:08:36 <BitHub>	trippy
Mar 19 06:08:50 <Chaang-Noi>	has bfl shipped yet?
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Mar 19 06:09:28 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 53
Mar 19 06:09:33 <gribble>	There are currently 722.61371 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 38298.5268802 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Mar 19 06:09:41 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 52.99
Mar 19 06:09:41 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 52.99 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.9715 seconds
Mar 19 06:12:28 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 52.99
Mar 19 06:12:32 <gribble>	There are currently 38.803471 bitcoins offered at or under 52.99 USD, worth 2056.19594419 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
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Mar 19 06:20:13 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
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Mar 19 06:24:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 06:28:53 <ThickAsThieves>	going for 54
Mar 19 06:28:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 06:28:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.11001, Best ask: 53.48997, Bid-ask spread: 0.37996, Last trade: 53.11001, 24 hour volume: 86658.81830554, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.98340
Mar 19 06:31:07 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 34
Mar 19 06:31:07 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 34.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.6629 seconds
Mar 19 06:31:10 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 54
Mar 19 06:31:10 <gribble>	There are currently 482.93073 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 26065.6459656 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.7521 seconds
Mar 19 06:31:25 <Chaang-Noi>	wow only 482
Mar 19 06:31:32 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 55
Mar 19 06:31:32 <gribble>	There are currently 6252.8908 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 342685.770975 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.6435 seconds
Mar 19 06:31:46 <Chaang-Noi>	6k is kinda of a wall :/
Mar 19 06:33:14 <Chaang-Noi>	;;gox lag
Mar 19 06:33:15 <gribble>	Error: "gox" is not a valid command.
Mar 19 06:33:18 <Chaang-Noi>	;;goxlag
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Mar 19 06:45:07 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 54
Mar 19 06:45:08 <gribble>	There are currently 897.77964 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 48343.2061181 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.4904 seconds
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Mar 19 07:03:08 <kakobrekla>	>I totally agree and we understand this. Timing is crucial and we have only a couple of months to make serious profits. Bitfury did not sleep for last 2 days :-)
Mar 19 07:03:10 <kakobrekla>	hehe
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Mar 19 07:08:00 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 19 07:08:04 <Chaang-Noi>	i lack context
Mar 19 07:08:15 <kakobrekla>	asic
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Mar 19 07:08:24 <Chaang-Noi>	oh right
Mar 19 07:08:39 <Chaang-Noi>	are they selling batch 3 now?
Mar 19 07:09:00 <tiberiusiv>	avalon?
Mar 19 07:09:01 <kakobrekla>	this is bitfury
Mar 19 07:09:12 <BitHub>	yeah
Mar 19 07:09:16 <BitHub>	worth getting?
Mar 19 07:09:30 <Chaang-Noi>	what is bitfury?
Mar 19 07:09:56 <Chaang-Noi>	is bitfurry one of the fake asics?
Mar 19 07:10:04 <kakobrekla>	well, he he has the best know-how of them all
Mar 19 07:10:19 <Line_>	what's this password thing?
Mar 19 07:10:53 <Chaang-Noi>	im not sure who is doing the bitfury, i did not follow that stuff to closely
Mar 19 07:11:06 <kakobrekla>	bitfury is doing it
Mar 19 07:11:08 <kakobrekla>	:p
Mar 19 07:11:17 <Chaang-Noi>	never heard of them,
Mar 19 07:11:32 <kakobrekla>	are you on the same internet as we are?
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Mar 19 07:11:56 <Bowjob>	yawn
Mar 19 07:12:01 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 19 07:12:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.60000, Best ask: 53.69991, Bid-ask spread: 0.09991, Last trade: 53.60000, 24 hour volume: 87411.56184324, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.87500, 24 hour vwap: 50.02467
Mar 19 07:12:26 <Chaang-Noi>	okay i did look at them before and assumed scam
Mar 19 07:12:36 <Chaang-Noi>	not a scam??
Mar 19 07:13:29 <kakobrekla>	well dunno about the whole picostocks thingy
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Mar 19 07:15:11 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm im going to pass
Mar 19 07:15:14 <Chaang-Noi>	for now at least]
Mar 19 07:16:32 <vampireb>	hmm did they deliver the fcpga?
Mar 19 07:16:51 <kakobrekla>	hm got booted
Mar 19 07:16:54 <kakobrekla>	12:16.27 ( kakobrekla ) [12:13:26] well dunno about the whole picostocks thingy
Mar 19 07:17:07 <kakobrekla>	but someone dumped him 350k to make the prototype chip
Mar 19 07:17:31 <kakobrekla>	vampireb yup but the devices never seen the light of public
Mar 19 07:17:36 <kakobrekla>	one of my friends got it
Mar 19 07:17:49 <kakobrekla>	twas a 10 chip spartan board
Mar 19 07:17:50 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 19 07:17:55 <kakobrekla>	each runnin at 300mhash
Mar 19 07:18:35 <Chaang-Noi>	if real might be a great buy
Mar 19 07:19:58 <kakobrekla>	imma gonna try to get a board
Mar 19 07:20:04 <Bowjob>	i just woke up
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Mar 19 07:20:25 <mjr_>	;;ticker
Mar 19 07:20:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.88798, Best ask: 53.88880, Bid-ask spread: 0.00082, Last trade: 53.88880, 24 hour volume: 87468.56354421, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.88880, 24 hour vwap: 50.03290
Mar 19 07:20:52 <Line_>	anyone paid with bitpay on here before?
Mar 19 07:20:56 <Bowjob>	looks like avalon is gearing for number 3
Mar 19 07:20:57 <Bowjob>	woot
Mar 19 07:21:02 <Line_>	There's no account i set up,right?
Mar 19 07:21:12 <Chaang-Noi>	no account no
Mar 19 07:21:15 <Chaang-Noi>	i used them with namecheap
Mar 19 07:21:18 <Line_>	ok
Mar 19 07:21:24 <Chaang-Noi>	did avlon ship number 2?
Mar 19 07:21:32 <Bowjob>	not that i know of
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Mar 19 07:21:40 <Chaang-Noi>	did they fully ship #1?
Mar 19 07:21:52 <Line_>	they have until the 15th according their website
Mar 19 07:22:06 <Bowjob>	they should by now. lots of ppl are reporting that they got theirs
Mar 19 07:22:12 <Bowjob>	i assume the rest are hush hush
Mar 19 07:22:15 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Mar 19 07:22:31 <Bowjob>	i wonder if number 3 is a good buy
Mar 19 07:22:56 <Bowjob>	i wouldnt mind reselling them
Mar 19 07:23:05 <kakobrekla>	too bad they dont sell single modules
Mar 19 07:23:07 <kakobrekla>	dunno why
Mar 19 07:23:11 <kakobrekla>	would be so easy
Mar 19 07:23:27 <Bowjob>	mhm, id love another module on mine actually
Mar 19 07:23:40 <kakobrekla>	id put one in the computah
Mar 19 07:23:40 <Chaang-Noi>	you have one now?
Mar 19 07:23:43 <leotreasure>	i'm still waiting for avalon batch 1
Mar 19 07:24:09 <Chaang-Noi>	its hard for me to order batch 3 with not fully on batch 1
Mar 19 07:24:16 <Chaang-Noi>	its why i wont do bfl :/
Mar 19 07:24:21 <Bowjob>	better than bfl
Mar 19 07:24:26 <Bowjob>	infinitely better than bfl, actually
Mar 19 07:24:38 <Chaang-Noi>	shit and better shit is still shit :/
Mar 19 07:25:04 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 54
Mar 19 07:25:05 <gribble>	There are currently 579.33782 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 31281.906441 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.3135 seconds
Mar 19 07:25:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50754217 = 1.0151 BTC [-]
Mar 19 07:25:46 <Bowjob>	suddenly people who have money in their mattress seem so fucking smart
Mar 19 07:25:57 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 19 07:26:12 <mjr_>	smarter than people with money in cypriot banks
Mar 19 07:26:12 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 19 07:26:19 <kakobrekla>	i have cas coin under my pillow
Mar 19 07:26:21 <mjr_>	less smart than people with money in bitcoins
Mar 19 07:26:27 <Bowjob>	I wanna travel to some other countries..
Mar 19 07:26:32 <Chaang-Noi>	2/3 of the money is russian money.. and tehy thought the russan govt would tax it, muhahahaha
Mar 19 07:26:37 <Bowjob>	but I fear I might be a target as a tourist
Mar 19 07:26:37 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 19 07:26:46 <kakobrekla>	rape target?
Mar 19 07:26:53 <Bowjob>	nah, ransom one
Mar 19 07:27:05 <kakobrekla>	rape and ransom then.
Mar 19 07:27:08 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 19 07:27:55 <Bowjob>	id need some sort of body guard
Mar 19 07:28:00 <kakobrekla>	yeah i was paranoid too when i was checkin prime miner
Mar 19 07:28:12 <kakobrekla>	so only took 1k btc with me
Mar 19 07:28:16 <Bowjob>	i think ill just stay in canada. ive seen too many beheadings
Mar 19 07:28:34 <Bowjob>	mexico is one scary place
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Mar 19 07:29:31 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 19 07:29:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i have been around, even war zones, no one has ever fucked with me
Mar 19 07:30:03 <kakobrekla>	pirate fucked with you
Mar 19 07:30:06 <Bowjob>	thailand seems a scary place too. ive seen bloated bodies everywhere
Mar 19 07:30:13 <Bowjob>	tho, the food is pretty nice
Mar 19 07:30:19 <Chaang-Noi>	that is what i hear kakobrekla
Mar 19 07:30:21 <Bowjob>	lots of trap it seems
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Mar 19 07:31:17 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Mar 19 07:31:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.99001, Best ask: 54.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 54.00000, 24 hour volume: 87866.28367331, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 54.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.05095
Mar 19 07:31:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50663276 = 1.0133 BTC [-]
Mar 19 07:31:50 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 19 07:31:51 <gribble>	1 BTC = 53.98003 U.S. dollars = 41.7027426 Euros
Mar 19 07:32:04 <kakobrekla>	42 is alright.
Mar 19 07:32:34 <kakobrekla>	the answer to everything ya know...
Mar 19 07:32:56 <tiberiusiv>	cyprus losses are positive for the euro
Mar 19 07:33:21 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Mar 19 07:34:21 <tiberiusiv>	people will now do due deligience when choosing banks vs accepting any ridiculous interest rate
Mar 19 07:34:38 <tiberiusiv>	and deposit losses are deflationary
Mar 19 07:34:43 <kakobrekla>	the interests rate is going negative
Mar 19 07:35:00 <Chaang-Noi>	there goes 54
Mar 19 07:35:05 <tiberiusiv>	because credit is contracting
Mar 19 07:35:23 <Bowjob>	I checked my bank, they advertised 1.89% GIC for 18 months as sizzling rate
Mar 19 07:35:25 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 19 07:35:28 <tiberiusiv>	all the deposits have been lent out
Mar 19 07:35:30 <kakobrekla>	its all thin
Mar 19 07:35:47 <tiberiusiv>	losing 9% is better then losing 100%
Mar 19 07:35:53 <Chaang-Noi>	after 55 nothing really to 60
Mar 19 07:36:01 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 55
Mar 19 07:36:06 <gribble>	There are currently 5818.8542 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 319138.813903 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Mar 19 07:36:15 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob: most of the depositors in cyprys were earning high rates for a decade +
Mar 19 07:36:16 <Chaang-Noi>	could take a day
Mar 19 07:36:22 <Bowjob>	how much?
Mar 19 07:36:31 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob: the cyprus banks held all their $$ in greek bonds
Mar 19 07:36:54 <Chaang-Noi>	greek bonds :) silly russians
Mar 19 07:37:15 <tiberiusiv>	sure when deposit insurance guarantees your account
Mar 19 07:37:19 <tiberiusiv>	you dont care what the bank does with the $
Mar 19 07:37:44 <tiberiusiv>	the depositers are recieving a great deal, 9% loss or 100%
Mar 19 07:37:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50663276 = 1.0133 BTC [-]
Mar 19 07:38:06 <tiberiusiv>	same is in the US, all deposits have been lent out, they are sitting in mortgages, ccs, bonds, carloans
Mar 19 07:39:01 <mjr_>	it's a wonderful life?
Mar 19 07:39:19 <mjr_>	yes, you don't actually have money in the bank
Mar 19 07:39:28 <mjr_>	you have a promise from the bank to pay you when you ask
Mar 19 07:39:40 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 19 07:40:01 <tiberiusiv>	if rates rise in the US the entire banking system will be insolvent
Mar 19 07:40:08 <Chaang-Noi>	so the insurance is not being paid? lulz, time for scammer tag
Mar 19 07:40:08 <tiberiusiv>	and there wont be quality assets for the fed to buy
Mar 19 07:40:09 <mjr_>	cyprus situation is fucked up
Mar 19 07:40:19 <mjr_>	scammer tag on cyprus govt?
Mar 19 07:40:24 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 19 07:40:34 <tiberiusiv>	chaang: its impossible for the government to insure the accounts, the insurance fund does not even cover 1%
Mar 19 07:40:51 <tiberiusiv>	chaang: for example in the US, the FDIC has maybe 1% in reserve to cover deposits
Mar 19 07:41:00 <Chaang-Noi>	scammer tag time then?
Mar 19 07:41:57 <tiberiusiv>	mjr_: depositors had over 2 years to realize cyprus banks were bust
Mar 19 07:42:29 <tiberiusiv>	how is it a sudden thing? everyone knew cyprus banks held all their assets as greek bonds
Mar 19 07:42:46 <tiberiusiv>	why were the locals all surprised, did they not read the news for the last 24 months lol
Mar 19 07:43:14 <mjr_>	that is not the point
Mar 19 07:43:28 <mjr_>	i am sure lots of people (prob those least likely to be harmed) got their money out
Mar 19 07:43:48 <mjr_>	the point is i gave you money, you said it was insured and that you would pay it when i asked, you broke your promise to pay
Mar 19 07:44:05 <tiberiusiv>	thats your fault for trusting in government
Mar 19 07:44:13 <mjr_>	since all you gave me in return for my money was your promise to pay, the fact that you can't do that one thing...scammer
Mar 19 07:44:23 <tiberiusiv>	you have thousands of years of history to look back on government defaulting
Mar 19 07:44:29 <mjr_>	oh of course
Mar 19 07:44:33 <mjr_>	and i don't keep money in banks
Mar 19 07:44:38 <mjr_>	btc FTW
Mar 19 07:44:56 <tiberiusiv>	not to mention cyprys residents had 6 years since greece became shaky
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Mar 19 07:45:02 <mjr_>	i'm just saying, more than likely it will be small business owners and average working people who will be hurt in cyprus
Mar 19 07:45:19 <tiberiusiv>	well theres a reason they are average and working
Mar 19 07:45:22 <mjr_>	they weren't using the bank as a "tax haven" they were using it as a "bank"
Mar 19 07:45:43 <mjr_>	anyway, i'm with you on that, don't trust govt or banks
Mar 19 07:45:52 <mjr_>	just saying, this is the reason i don't trust them
Mar 19 07:45:56 <tiberiusiv>	instead of spending most of their time watching sports and drinking wine they should have devoted even 30minutes to read the bear case
Mar 19 07:46:05 <mjr_>	whether they should have seen it coming does not excuse the fact that they did that
Mar 19 07:46:40 <mjr_>	and again, they get hurt, but not because they deserve it, it is of course in their best interest to look out for themselves and not get hurt
Mar 19 07:46:53 <mjr_>	but you still can find fault with the one hurting them
Mar 19 07:47:07 <tiberiusiv>	i think people should lose 100% of their deposits
Mar 19 07:47:09 <tiberiusiv>	globally
Mar 19 07:47:31 <tiberiusiv>	teach people a good lesson about being naive and lazy
Mar 19 07:47:31 *	jurov reads scrollback... so everyone has to get STD transmitter license, yea?
Mar 19 07:48:23 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, can i extend that to coinbr? but i have everything on mpex anyway :/
Mar 19 07:48:45 <tiberiusiv>	all global deposits are lent out
Mar 19 07:49:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol listen tiberiusiv, something like a 30 to 40% haircut => collapse.
Mar 19 07:50:11 <tiberiusiv>	you cant really avoid it though
Mar 19 07:50:19 <tiberiusiv>	the debt has already been created
Mar 19 07:50:42 <tiberiusiv>	70 years of debt creation has to end at some point
Mar 19 07:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is true, but no government ever has or ever will survive a one third haircut of assets.
Mar 19 07:51:14 <mircea_popescu>	that's roughly the equivalent of foreign invasion.
Mar 19 07:51:17 <tiberiusiv>	plus all the real wealth in the world will not be lost
Mar 19 07:51:33 <tiberiusiv>	well the only other option is to attempt to inflate away
Mar 19 07:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Mar 19 07:51:52 <tiberiusiv>	problem with that arguement is the debt size is simply too large
Mar 19 07:51:57 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Mar 19 07:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	nothing is too large for inflation.
Mar 19 07:52:32 <tiberiusiv>	in advanced economies the bond markets are huge, they will increase rates on any inflate attempts
Mar 19 07:52:56 <tiberiusiv>	total credit market debt in US is 58trillion, bernanke is having a difficult time creating 3tril
Mar 19 07:53:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Mar 19 07:53:43 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: if it wasnt too large to inflate, then greek bonds would have been made 100% whole
Mar 19 07:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv there's a problem of marginality here,.
Mar 19 07:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	inflate for the greeks ? why ?
Mar 19 07:54:59 <tiberiusiv>	you arent bailing greeks out but greek creditors
Mar 19 07:55:11 <tiberiusiv>	which are trade surplus nations like germany
Mar 19 07:55:28 <mjr_>	trade surplus just means "we make things people want"
Mar 19 07:55:43 <tiberiusiv>	no it means you run a vendor financing model
Mar 19 07:55:53 <tiberiusiv>	germany sends products out on credit
Mar 19 07:56:19 <tiberiusiv>	the "export" economy will collapse
Mar 19 07:56:50 <tiberiusiv>	think of germany as a large department store, and all of its customers use only the store credit card to purchase goods
Mar 19 07:57:00 <tiberiusiv>	then the bill comes due and no one can pay
Mar 19 07:57:24 <tiberiusiv>	in the meantime all your factories are leveraged to the hilt from borrowing to expand, to meet fake demand
Mar 19 07:57:40 <tiberiusiv>	that is germany
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Mar 19 08:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	well... perhaps exaggerated but certainly something to it.
Mar 19 08:01:06 <tiberiusiv>	notice how german industry bought up so many firms over the last decade?
Mar 19 08:01:12 <tiberiusiv>	ie especially in car manufacturing
Mar 19 08:01:21 <tiberiusiv>	volkswagen is highly leveraged
Mar 19 08:01:31 <tiberiusiv>	they own like 80% of EU automakers
Mar 19 08:01:56 <tiberiusiv>	thats all from operational debt incurred to expand production of cars nobody could afford
Mar 19 08:02:27 <tiberiusiv>	largest losses will happen to creditors like germany at some point
Mar 19 08:07:28 <mjr_>	well...perhaps there is something to the old saying "neither a borrower or a lender be..."
Mar 19 08:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 19 08:09:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.79901, Best ask: 53.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 53.80000, 24 hour volume: 89545.76316294, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 54.28880, 24 hour vwap: 50.13851
Mar 19 08:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	looking sweet.
Mar 19 08:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50240325 = 502.4033 BTC [-]
Mar 19 08:12:41 <pizzaman1337>	500 btc? nice
Mar 19 08:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 19 08:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m p750t
Mar 19 08:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.50240325 / 0.50243028 / 0.50754217 (1006 shares, 505.44 BTC), 7D: 0.50240325 / 0.50243028 / 0.50754217 (1006 shares, 505.44 BTC), 30D: 0.50240325 / 1.04607226 / 1.53153505 (29789 shares, 31,161.45 BTC)
Mar 19 08:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	that line got 30k worth of trades thios month, it;'s been crazy
Mar 19 08:14:53 <mircea_popescu>	"we hope to be able to finally be back to regular delays by April."
Mar 19 08:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 19 08:16:28 <tiberiusiv>	is that a 75 call option?
Mar 19 08:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	put
Mar 19 08:18:47 <Chaang-Noi>	what is the price on a call option for 30 d for 75 btc?
Mar 19 08:18:56 <tiberiusiv>	30k of volume is quite a bit
Mar 19 08:19:38 <mircea_popescu>	$depth O.BTCUSD.C750T
Mar 19 08:19:39 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Bids: []
Mar 19 08:19:40 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1 @ 1425081']
Mar 19 08:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	hum
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Mar 19 08:19:51 <Chaang-Noi>	!ticker m c750t
Mar 19 08:19:53 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Mar 19 08:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	$depth O.BTCUSD.C750T
Mar 19 08:20:54 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Bids: ['1000 @ 2']
Mar 19 08:20:55 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1 @ 1425081', '1000 @ 5181251']
Mar 19 08:21:18 <mircea_popescu>	costs you about half a btc to buy, get 2 satoshi per if you sell
Mar 19 08:21:49 <Chaang-Noi>	large spread
Mar 19 08:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	im sorry
Mar 19 08:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	like 0.05 btc not 0.5
Mar 19 08:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	miscounted them digits
Mar 19 08:22:41 <mjr_>	!ticker m c410t
Mar 19 08:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1D: 0.23958397 / 0.23958397 / 0.23958397 (4 shares, 0.96 BTC), 7D: 0.23 / 0.23479198 / 0.23958397 (8 shares, 1.88 BTC), 30D: 0.12612881 / 0.19916485 / 0.23958397 (15018 shares, 2,991.06 BTC)
Mar 19 08:22:48 <Chaang-Noi>	and that is per contract?
Mar 19 08:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 19 08:23:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50210205 = 502.1021 BTC [-]
Mar 19 08:23:24 <mjr_>	what does the (4 shares, 0.96 BTC) mean?
Mar 19 08:23:35 <mjr_>	is that outstanding?
Mar 19 08:23:37 <Chaang-Noi>	so if i spent 1 btc i would get 20 contracts, so if btc went to 75 or more i then get them, or just the fiat over 75?
Mar 19 08:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ that 4 contracts worth .96 btc were traded
Mar 19 08:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi if btc goes to 76 you get (76 - 75) / 76
Mar 19 08:24:05 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu: thanks, that was me...so i was wondering why my trade was on there
Mar 19 08:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	call means you get whatever's over the strike
Mar 19 08:24:15 <Chaang-Noi>	in fiat?
Mar 19 08:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi no, in btc.
Mar 19 08:24:30 <Bowjob>	hey chang
Mar 19 08:24:30 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ well... what do you mean why ? cause it was traded
Mar 19 08:24:35 <Chaang-Noi>	but the btc will be valued at the current price
Mar 19 08:24:35 <Bowjob>	wanna crash LTC again?
Mar 19 08:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi no, at the then current price. hence the /76 if price is 76
Mar 19 08:24:52 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob i have been thinking about it, all down to .008 but not right now
Mar 19 08:24:59 <Bowjob>	right
Mar 19 08:25:08 <Bowjob>	id appreciate a heads up Lol
Mar 19 08:25:17 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu: was just curious, i sold half my position of the 41 calls for .96 btc (4 contracts) i still have four more :)
Mar 19 08:25:29 <Bowjob>	I managed to arb 6 BTC from 10 to 11
Mar 19 08:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	it only shows what's traded
Mar 19 08:25:34 <Bowjob>	then I got out
Mar 19 08:25:35 <Bowjob>	xD
Mar 19 08:25:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [-]
Mar 19 08:25:38 <Chaang-Noi>	so to get 20x 1/76 a btc it would not be worth spending 1 btc, lol
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Mar 19 08:26:16 <mircea_popescu>	depends where the price goes.
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Mar 19 08:26:29 <Chaang-Noi>	75 is already way out of the money
Mar 19 08:26:33 <mircea_popescu>	if it goes to 200 you get 125 / 200  = .62 each x 20 = 13 btc so like 13x
Mar 19 08:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	but yes probably better calls to buy than the 75
Mar 19 08:26:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [-]
Mar 19 08:27:03 <Chaang-Noi>	.05 is just way to high, that low ass bid is fine,
Mar 19 08:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	well, you can make and sell your own if you want.
Mar 19 08:27:39 <Chaang-Noi>	im sure they would love to have that filled
Mar 19 08:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, far out of the money calls are great from a fiat perspective. say you are sure btc is going to 500. what can you do ?
Mar 19 08:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	well... you could send 50k usd to an exchange and buy 1000 btc. but this takes time and all the bs.
Mar 19 08:28:12 <Chaang-Noi>	1000% in 30 days is a bit much
Mar 19 08:28:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [-]
Mar 19 08:28:32 <mircea_popescu>	you could also buy 20 btc and then buy options with them, gain 400 btc exposure that way
Mar 19 08:28:37 <Chaang-Noi>	yerah there are uses for options, i used to trade them when oil was doing so well
Mar 19 08:28:57 <Chaang-Noi>	but that .05 price is just unreasonable
Mar 19 08:29:03 <mjr_>	its a nice way to give yourself exposure
Mar 19 08:29:17 <mircea_popescu>	so you look at it... well i bought 50 dollars worth of 1 btc, got 20 calls at 75, now i made 13 btc which are worth 200 each. so from 50 to 2600 dollars.
Mar 19 08:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	in a fiat perspective
Mar 19 08:29:37 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah but im all in crypto
Mar 19 08:29:40 <mjr_>	is jurov on right now?
Mar 19 08:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi then probably selling puts is better for you
Mar 19 08:29:53 <mjr_>	i was wondering if you could write options on coinbr...
Mar 19 08:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	anyway
Mar 19 08:30:12 <Chaang-Noi>	im pretty bullish
Mar 19 08:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	with all the problems us people have buying esp large ammts of btc
Mar 19 08:30:19 <Bowjob>	the oix changed drastically
Mar 19 08:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	options are kinda a must for them
Mar 19 08:30:24 <mjr_>	i would like to sell puts and buy calls at a certain price
Mar 19 08:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 19 08:30:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  / 57.53184036 / 57.53184036 (6757 shares, 788.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 19 08:30:57 <Bowjob>	theres this house for sale in dallas
Mar 19 08:31:01 <Bowjob>	for 8j BTC
Mar 19 08:31:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50180097 = 501.801 BTC [-]
Mar 19 08:31:03 <Bowjob>	8k
Mar 19 08:31:10 <Bowjob>	pretty cool looking
Mar 19 08:33:58 <mjr_>	heard there was an apt for rent in bitcoins in spain
Mar 19 08:34:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.856 BTC [+]
Mar 19 08:34:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8649 = 2.5947 BTC [+]
Mar 19 08:34:14 <mjr_>	did anyone hear about etoro? was that just a rumor?
Mar 19 08:34:20 <Bowjob>	its legit
Mar 19 08:34:24 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 19 08:34:29 <mjr_>	i couldn't find it on their site
Mar 19 08:34:30 <Bowjob>	another bullish sign
Mar 19 08:34:34 <mjr_>	yeah true
Mar 19 08:35:11 <Bowjob>	i wish i didnt play dice back then lol
Mar 19 08:35:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8649 = 1.7298 BTC [+]
Mar 19 08:35:17 <Bowjob>	id have even more money now
Mar 19 08:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	more money mopre problesm
Mar 19 08:37:50 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 19 08:38:02 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 19 08:38:09 <Bowjob>	firstworldproblems
Mar 19 08:38:28 <Bowjob>	i cant really complain.. ill be rich off of this
Mar 19 08:38:28 <Bowjob>	heh
Mar 19 08:39:22 <Bowjob>	electrum is slow
Mar 19 08:39:32 <Bowjob>	the dollar amount shows 47 per coin
Mar 19 08:41:15 <tiberiusiv>	what was the etoro news?
Mar 19 08:41:28 <Bowjob>	then again I wish I went all in, including some unemployment, I would have gotten avout $150 grand by now
Mar 19 08:41:35 <Bowjob>	back in december
Mar 19 08:41:37 <Bowjob>	hehe
Mar 19 08:42:05 <Bowjob>	etoro will basically start trading btc
Mar 19 08:42:33 <Bowjob>	http://www.etoro.com/blog/markets/13032013/bitcoin-the-top-performing-currency-in-the-world/
Mar 19 08:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00076039 = 6.7295 BTC [+]
Mar 19 08:43:15 <tiberiusiv>	coulda shoulda woulda
Mar 19 08:43:29 <tiberiusiv>	where did they announce that
Mar 19 08:44:05 <tiberiusiv>	damn thats very positive news
Mar 19 08:44:12 <Bowjob>	on the internet
Mar 19 08:45:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50089845 = 500.8985 BTC [-]
Mar 19 08:45:24 <tiberiusiv>	might take huge market share away from mtgox?
Mar 19 08:45:38 <Bowjob>	would it be favourable for someone who bought a mini rig eons ago to capitulate and wait to pre order avalon # 3 instead?
Mar 19 08:45:52 <tiberiusiv>	etoro was more of a gambling site
Mar 19 08:45:59 <Chaang-Noi>	attack on 55
Mar 19 08:46:07 <Chaang-Noi>	gamblers love btc
Mar 19 08:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-officers-rifle-mistake-2013-3#ixzz2NdngHBQy
Mar 19 08:46:15 <tiberiusiv>	when will BFL just default
Mar 19 08:46:16 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 19 08:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv probably never.
Mar 19 08:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	it will just fade for six months or a year, then some clueless nitwit a la  Ryan Singer will "bring it back"
Mar 19 08:47:25 <tiberiusiv>	think they will come through?
Mar 19 08:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't seem likely
Mar 19 08:48:12 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl or tf?
Mar 19 08:48:16 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean th
Mar 19 08:48:19 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/cbUmsFc.jpg?1
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Mar 19 08:48:38 <tiberiusiv>	wont etoro take substantial marketshare from mtgox
Mar 19 08:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	i guess mtgox is basically imploding.
Mar 19 08:49:28 <mircea_popescu>	they were bleeding market share pretty much monthly since 2011 or so
Mar 19 08:49:31 <mircea_popescu>	but by now...
Mar 19 08:49:32 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob i just looked at ltc, it would take more than what i want to spend to get ltc under .08
Mar 19 08:49:36 <Chaang-Noi>	no realy point in it
Mar 19 08:49:41 <mircea_popescu>	going back to trading cards i guess
Mar 19 08:49:48 <Bowjob>	ah, kk
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Mar 19 08:49:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i will be happy when mt gox has less than 105 market share
Mar 19 08:49:59 <Bowjob>	it seems to be dropping like a rock
Mar 19 08:50:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.49456206 = 0.9891 BTC [-]
Mar 19 08:50:12 <Chaang-Noi>	lots of support in the .08 to .088 range
Mar 19 08:50:16 <tiberiusiv>	LTC has no liquidity at all
Mar 19 08:50:19 <Bowjob>	im glad to got rid of it at 0.11
Mar 19 08:50:21 <Bowjob>	earlier
Mar 19 08:50:28 <Bowjob>	i bought at 0.1 too lol
Mar 19 08:50:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i bought in the .002 to .003 range :)
Mar 19 08:50:47 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 19 08:50:47 <Bowjob>	yeha
Mar 19 08:50:49 <Bowjob>	gh
Mar 19 08:50:49 <Bowjob>	gj
Mar 19 08:51:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not expect what it did, and that is why i sold almost 100k of ltc
Mar 19 08:51:14 <tiberiusiv>	$5k has like 30% price movements
Mar 19 08:51:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.49700001 = 496.006 BTC [+]
Mar 19 08:51:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.35270204 = 0.7054 BTC [-]
Mar 19 08:51:26 <Chaang-Noi>	but i wont sell more, in a year it will be much higher, esp if we get it listed at trade hill
Mar 19 08:51:39 <kakobrekla>	i made 100% on ltc in a few days as well
Mar 19 08:51:49 <kakobrekla>	play money but w/e
Mar 19 08:51:52 <tiberiusiv>	yea but what ammount 2btc?
Mar 19 08:51:53 <Bowjob>	well btc will be much higher too
Mar 19 08:51:53 <kakobrekla>	i was out yesterday
Mar 19 08:51:55 <Bowjob>	so cant go wrong
Mar 19 08:51:56 <kakobrekla>	i have 0
Mar 19 08:52:21 <kakobrekla>	tiberiusiv a bit more
Mar 19 08:52:25 <kakobrekla>	not much
Mar 19 08:52:31 <kakobrekla>	again, play money
Mar 19 08:52:40 <kakobrekla>	imho ltc is going to be dead
Mar 19 08:52:43 <kakobrekla>	by end of 2013
Mar 19 08:52:55 <tiberiusiv>	why would ltc go anywhere? it just offers nothing
Mar 19 08:53:04 <kakobrekla>	it will go alright
Mar 19 08:53:06 <kakobrekla>	in the grave
Mar 19 08:53:11 <Chaang-Noi>	lol ltc is a scam like btc right?
Mar 19 08:53:12 <tiberiusiv>	how many google clones have done well?
Mar 19 08:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv the one reasonable explanation i heard so far is arbitraring bitcoin testing
Mar 19 08:53:23 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi its not useful over btc
Mar 19 08:53:31 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi the usefullnes is zero
Mar 19 08:53:33 <Chaang-Noi>	when btc is forked it sure is:)
Mar 19 08:53:38 <tiberiusiv>	bit more what?
Mar 19 08:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	ie, they have free testing, stuff like the berkley db etc
Mar 19 08:53:45 <imsaguy>	litecoin isn't a bitcoin test
Mar 19 08:53:52 <imsaguy>	testnet is a bitcoin test
Mar 19 08:53:53 <mjr_>	dude did you guys hear about berlusconi?
Mar 19 08:54:01 <tiberiusiv>	oh price
Mar 19 08:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy no, bitcoin is litecoin's testcoin
Mar 19 08:54:03 <Chaang-Noi>	bitcoin is a ltc test:)
Mar 19 08:54:03 <imsaguy>	mjr_: did you ask if we cared?
Mar 19 08:54:14 <mjr_>	imsaguy: sorry, do you care?
Mar 19 08:54:18 <imsaguy>	no.
Mar 19 08:54:22 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc is bitcoins backup
Mar 19 08:54:27 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 19 08:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ what about him ?
Mar 19 08:54:31 <mjr_>	figured that was a rhetorical question
Mar 19 08:54:33 <tiberiusiv>	the litecoin people dont understand that ASICs increase ltc difficulty as well
Mar 19 08:54:34 <Chaang-Noi>	btc has forked or too many transactions, use ltc:)
Mar 19 08:54:41 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu: 4 million a month in alimony
Mar 19 08:54:47 <kakobrekla>	if btc fails, lts will be worth -10
Mar 19 08:54:49 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha lire ?
Mar 19 08:54:52 <mjr_>	dollars
Mar 19 08:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol gtfo. to how manywomen ?
Mar 19 08:55:01 <tiberiusiv>	as less efficient miners drop out of bitcoin, they increase ltc difficulty
Mar 19 08:55:11 <mjr_>	his wife said: it would be more dignified to stop here...i can't stay with a man who consorts with minors
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Mar 19 08:55:20 <mjr_>	after he attended an 18 year old models birthday party
Mar 19 08:55:23 <Chaang-Noi>	making ltcs network strong help move the price up
Mar 19 08:55:37 <mjr_>	like, sure, cheat on me...but please do it with more age appropriate women
Mar 19 08:55:38 <Chaang-Noi>	how many times did he see her before 18? lol
Mar 19 08:55:43 <mjr_>	no clue
Mar 19 08:55:49 <mjr_>	just crazy though
Mar 19 08:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	when i'm 70 i'll prolly be doing 17 yos too
Mar 19 08:55:58 <Bowjob>	drop to 0.008
Mar 19 08:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's an old man thing
Mar 19 08:56:09 <Bowjob>	mp you catholic?
Mar 19 08:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	nope
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Mar 19 08:56:17 <tiberiusiv>	if bitcoin fails that will be the end of crypto for a decade +
Mar 19 08:56:22 <Bowjob>	k i thought it was just a cathloic thing
Mar 19 08:56:23 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 19 08:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 19 08:56:40 <tiberiusiv>	no it doesnt
Mar 19 08:56:40 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: i think that its biggest threat is something better
Mar 19 08:56:44 <kakobrekla>	no, they handle the boys Bowjob
Mar 19 08:56:47 <tiberiusiv>	thats a complete myth chaang
Mar 19 08:56:50 <mjr_>	and if that happens, it will be that new thing
Mar 19 08:56:53 <Bowjob>	why is it always boys
Mar 19 08:56:55 <Bowjob>	i dont get it
Mar 19 08:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob the fact is, the way the human body works first pregnancy should be delivered around 18 years of age.
Mar 19 08:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	so...
Mar 19 08:57:03 <kakobrekla>	cause we are sexy w/o the makeup
Mar 19 08:57:04 <tiberiusiv>	ltc was made so people who cant afford to invest into equip can continue "mining"
Mar 19 08:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob i think it's girls with berlusconi neh ?
Mar 19 08:57:17 <Bowjob>	who
Mar 19 08:57:28 <Bowjob>	oh that guy
Mar 19 08:57:35 <Bowjob>	but hes not catholic priest
Mar 19 08:57:45 <tiberiusiv>	the problem is that BTC asics increase litecoin difficulty
Mar 19 08:57:47 <tiberiusiv>	making the ltc benefit void
Mar 19 08:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	this conversation is layered in such a way...
Mar 19 08:58:03 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 19 08:58:31 <imsaguy>	jurov, when's hte big payday?
Mar 19 08:58:35 <Bowjob>	litecoin dropping like a bitch
Mar 19 08:59:17 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: do you think coinlab succeeds?
Mar 19 08:59:31 <mircea_popescu>	what's your definition of succes ?
Mar 19 08:59:42 <Chaang-Noi>	age of consent here is 15, 18 is getting on the old side for the culture here
Mar 19 09:00:26 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc did not even hit that resistance at .088 i told you about
Mar 19 09:00:36 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: SEC investigation
Mar 19 09:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.49154267 = 0.9831 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:00:40 <imsaguy>	every good startup has one.
Mar 19 09:00:56 <Bowjob>	what resistance i dont see it
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Mar 19 09:01:05 <Chaang-Noi>	it is still there
Mar 19 09:01:06 <Bowjob>	were down to 0.0087, no resistance
Mar 19 09:01:20 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 19 09:01:21 <tiberiusiv>	large client base?
Mar 19 09:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.49252684 = 491.5418 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:01:33 <Bowjob>	its at 0.0082
Mar 19 09:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1641662#msg1641662
Mar 19 09:01:40 <kakobrekla>	cause its useless
Mar 19 09:02:22 <Chaang-Noi>	it fell faster than i expected
Mar 19 09:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	I am Chunyan 22 years old from China http://www.girlsfromasia.ru/
Mar 19 09:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 19 09:03:32 <mjr_>	;;ticker
Mar 19 09:03:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 54.64859, Best ask: 54.99989, Bid-ask spread: 0.35130, Last trade: 54.64859, 24 hour volume: 94878.61374780, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.40729
Mar 19 09:03:44 <Chaang-Noi>	<Bowjob> its at 0.0082      ---- what??
Mar 19 09:04:08 <Chaang-Noi>	Last Price: 0.00909 BTC
Mar 19 09:04:08 <Chaang-Noi>	Low: 0.0085 BTC
Mar 19 09:04:09 <Chaang-Noi>	High: 0.013 BTC
Mar 19 09:04:22 <Chaang-Noi>	you from 2 weeks ago?
Mar 19 09:04:38 <Bowjob>	no i mean the support
Mar 19 09:04:52 <Bowjob>	400 BTC support at 0.0082
Mar 19 09:04:55 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Mar 19 09:05:08 <Bowjob>	imo take the profits and run
Mar 19 09:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6273 @ 0.00075833 = 4.757 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:05:14 <Bowjob>	you cant go wrong either way
Mar 19 09:05:26 <Chaang-Noi>	like 800 btc to get to .008
Mar 19 09:05:55 <Bowjob>	then when that support is down, its all downhil
Mar 19 09:05:57 <Bowjob>	buy cheaper
Mar 19 09:05:58 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 19 09:06:06 <kakobrekla>	someone said tradehill?
Mar 19 09:06:07 <Chaang-Noi>	i took some profit, i made like 600% even if i lose everything else i hold, im not worried
Mar 19 09:06:11 <kakobrekla>	oh no, it was downhill.
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Mar 19 09:06:44 <Bowjob>	this is highly lucrative
Mar 19 09:06:45 <Bowjob>	heh
Mar 19 09:06:54 <Chaang-Noi>	90k ltc dump to get to .008, i wont do it
Mar 19 09:07:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i fear i wont get it back
Mar 19 09:07:23 <pgp>	tradehill lesson - don't write check with your mouth that you butt can't cash
Mar 19 09:07:24 <kakobrekla>	ofc not
Mar 19 09:07:26 <kakobrekla>	cause its useless
Mar 19 09:07:42 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah btc was useless after 1.5 years too
Mar 19 09:07:56 <kakobrekla>	yeah and now is useful cause we didnt have btc
Mar 19 09:07:59 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 19 09:08:09 <Chaang-Noi>	when btc is forked you dont have btc now either:)
Mar 19 09:08:24 <kakobrekla>	..
Mar 19 09:08:43 <Chaang-Noi>	ill sell more ltc once this may 15th stuff is over
Mar 19 09:08:50 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz if tehy fuck up btc lol
Mar 19 09:09:24 <kakobrekla>	i see litecoin is somewhat like debian
Mar 19 09:09:32 <kakobrekla>	stable means all developers have been dead for years
Mar 19 09:09:43 <Bowjob>	My stupid friend is now kicking himself for not buying BTC at 17
Mar 19 09:10:08 <Chaang-Noi>	if it works it works, btc is ltcs test coin
Mar 19 09:10:10 <kakobrekla>	Bowjob tell him he will be kickin himself later for not buying at 55
Mar 19 09:10:13 <Bowjob>	everytime it goes up, he says... BTC will go down. when BTC goes down, he says BTC will go down further
Mar 19 09:10:29 <Bowjob>	tahts his reasoning every fucking time
Mar 19 09:10:32 <Bowjob>	from 17 to 55
Mar 19 09:10:37 <kakobrekla>	i hear that a lot
Mar 19 09:10:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i told freinds and family to buy at 3.5 never said shit again
Mar 19 09:10:58 <Bowjob>	i gave hima  heads up at the flash crash
Mar 19 09:11:00 <Chaang-Noi>	people slowly come back and be like, still good time to but,
Mar 19 09:11:01 <Bowjob>	he said btc will die
Mar 19 09:11:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.4857348 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:11:10 <Bowjob>	so he could buy
Mar 19 09:11:14 <pgp>	the 'hill is back up...
Mar 19 09:11:20 <Chaang-Noi>	yup
Mar 19 09:11:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49193244 = 491.4405 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:11:36 <pgp>	i wonder, do you think that they are just running a gox shadow book?
Mar 19 09:11:45 <Bowjob>	I told him since he's such a sensitive guy, I can sell him $100 worth of bitcoins
Mar 19 09:11:59 <Bowjob>	for 1.81 BTC
Mar 19 09:12:08 <pgp>	when the connection to gox dies - so does their "prime" order book
Mar 19 09:12:21 <Bowjob>	he wants to buy 5 BTC now, and pretend he got them at "$20 each"
Mar 19 09:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	pgp now this is an interestinfg observatiob
Mar 19 09:12:24 <mircea_popescu>	n*
Mar 19 09:12:25 <Bowjob>	im like, lol nope
Mar 19 09:13:05 <kakobrekla>	stabinthefacehill
Mar 19 09:13:20 <pgp>	either they are the worst technologists ever or they are relying on third party
Mar 19 09:13:34 <kakobrekla>	its prime, ya know.
Mar 19 09:13:45 <mircea_popescu>	certainly the 2nd seems plausible.
Mar 19 09:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	1st being a certainty.
Mar 19 09:13:57 <pgp>	lol
Mar 19 09:14:15 <Bowjob>	chang, is that yours the 374 BTC sell
Mar 19 09:14:19 <Bowjob>	at 0.0094
Mar 19 09:14:55 <Chaang-Noi>	no
Mar 19 09:15:00 <Chaang-Noi>	and that 500 btc wall is down
Mar 19 09:15:46 <jurov>	mjr_ yes i'm here, pm me
Mar 19 09:16:58 <jurov>	and sorry for mpex.coinbr.com problem, forgot to update the configs :/
Mar 19 09:17:33 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 55
Mar 19 09:17:37 <gribble>	There are currently 2255.5627 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 124055.895521 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Mar 19 09:17:50 <Chaang-Noi>	wall is falling faster than i expected
Mar 19 09:18:20 <pgp>	that is exactly what they are doing...  they are showing the gox book $.55 worse...  lol...
Mar 19 09:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 19 09:19:48 <pgp>	I'd call that a scam, unless, of course, it's "free" to trade with them, in which case they are embedding the gox commission in their prices.  In any case, their pathetic relaunched "website" has no information on fees...
Mar 19 09:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	pgp im quoting this.
Mar 19 09:20:19 <pgp>	be my guest
Mar 19 09:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48888954 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:22:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3127 @ 0.00075423 = 2.3585 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:22:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00076039 = 4.5243 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3539 @ 0.00076091 = 2.6929 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:22:07 <pgp>	go to bitfinex for the proof
Mar 19 09:22:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/children-and-their-delusions-today-jared-kenna-and-ryan-singer/#comment-92405
Mar 19 09:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49044849 = 489.958 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:23:24 <pgp>	yep - tradehill is offering gox at a 1.0% markup
Mar 19 09:24:06 <Bowjob>	misspelled gavin's last name
Mar 19 09:24:49 *	mircea_popescu looks
Mar 19 09:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	haha indeed. thansk
Mar 19 09:26:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:26:42 <Bowjob>	np
Mar 19 09:28:18 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 55
Mar 19 09:28:18 <gribble>	There are currently 2388.2445 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 131351.566213 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.2296 seconds
Mar 19 09:28:30 <Bowjob>	wall is falling down
Mar 19 09:29:16 <Bowjob>	btc-e trollbox are now patting each other's back at BTC's downfall
Mar 19 09:29:24 <Bowjob>	and LTC's rise
Mar 19 09:29:48 <Bowjob>	"coinman1980: when ltc eventually gets media attention btc will suffer"
Mar 19 09:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Mar 19 09:30:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48338803 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:30:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49015205 = 489.6619 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:31:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:32:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01498 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:34:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.01499 = 0.2099 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:34:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.0049 = 0.735 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:34:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.015 = 0.075 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:35:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.016 = 0.08 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:35:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.017 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:35:46 <Bowjob>	This is what "enlightened" 14 year olds think about bitcoin
Mar 19 09:35:47 <Bowjob>	http://lurkerfaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/65241750/
Mar 19 09:35:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0175 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:35:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00071 = 0.071 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:36:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.105 = 0.84 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	As a currency for purchasing power, I grew up with the US dollar so I'm used to having stability enforced by people way more powerful than myself. If I were stuck using certain other national currencies, I would probably be more inclined to appreciate bitcoin's efforts. Especially if that currency was subject to BS levels of printing printing printing.
Mar 19 09:37:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.4748 = 0.9496 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	sounds legit.
Mar 19 09:37:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:38:12 <BitHub>	i seen asicminer selling for 1btc on bitcointalk forums
Mar 19 09:38:24 <Chaang-Noi>	links??
Mar 19 09:38:34 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz i have a few to sell :)
Mar 19 09:38:58 <Bowjob>	asicminer going for 1 BTC means
Mar 19 09:39:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.0099 = 0.0297 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:39:16 <Bowjob>	that someone is expecting asicminer to make more than 400k BTC?
Mar 19 09:39:19 <BitHub>	cant be bothered searching for it
Mar 19 09:39:20 <Bowjob>	thats scary
Mar 19 09:39:22 <BitHub>	its in there somewhere
Mar 19 09:39:48 <BitHub>	TradeFortress Auction? i think
Mar 19 09:40:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.0099 = 0.198 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:40:34 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 19 09:40:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 54.70013, Best ask: 54.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04987, Last trade: 54.70000, 24 hour volume: 95343.84225840, 24 hour low: 47.41103, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.52650
Mar 19 09:40:55 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been very active on asicminer threads on the form and im going to call bs on the 1btc thing
Mar 19 09:40:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48741637 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:41:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:41:13 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe someone offered it at that but not many trades will have been done at that price
Mar 19 09:41:28 <BitHub>	50 shares i believe
Mar 19 09:42:04 <Chaang-Noi>	ill belive 1 50 share block at that price, but its too high...
Mar 19 09:42:23 <Chaang-Noi>	wall at 55 is getting ibgger :/
Mar 19 09:42:33 <kakobrekla>	why you sad
Mar 19 09:42:36 <kakobrekla>	LITECOIN!!!
Mar 19 09:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 19 09:42:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 54.70001, Best ask: 54.89998, Bid-ask spread: 0.19997, Last trade: 54.89999, 24 hour volume: 95603.50817862, 24 hour low: 47.41103, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.53990
Mar 19 09:42:50 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, im happy ltc:)
Mar 19 09:43:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.48926344 = 488.7742 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:44:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01334 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:44:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:44:40 <kakobrekla>	!l m s.dice
Mar 19 09:44:41 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0051 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:45:11 <Bowjob>	someone lost 400 BTC on dice 12 hrs ago
Mar 19 09:45:16 <Bowjob>	thats... idk lol
Mar 19 09:50:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:50:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48666662 BTC [-]
Mar 19 09:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.4874894 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:52:11 <Bowjob>	http://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/
Mar 19 09:52:38 <Bowjob>	I believe the trollbox is in stage 1. It can be remedied if LTC stops falling like a brick.
Mar 19 09:55:13 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone know if one could get a phD after an MBA?
Mar 19 09:55:23 <Chaang-Noi>	or have to get a different type of masters?
Mar 19 09:55:42 <Bowjob>	whoa. theymos is 21 years old?? WTf
Mar 19 09:55:48 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 19 09:55:49 <Bowjob>	i thought hes an old dude
Mar 19 09:55:55 <Chaang-Noi>	nope
Mar 19 09:56:03 <Bowjob>	im just 1 year younger than him lol
Mar 19 09:56:09 <Chaang-Noi>	one of the reasons why no one expects much of him
Mar 19 09:56:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.4874894 = 486.5144 BTC [+]
Mar 19 09:56:52 <kakobrekla>	well that explains a lot.
Mar 19 09:57:10 <Chaang-Noi>	kako did not know that?
Mar 19 09:57:15 <kakobrekla>	nope
Mar 19 09:57:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i think its why the forum staff is so yoing and trollish
Mar 19 09:57:39 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin is buncha kids with money for sure
Mar 19 09:57:44 <kakobrekla>	but didnt know twas dat bad
Mar 19 09:57:52 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah.... it is
Mar 19 09:58:17 <Chaang-Noi>	i was thinking and a few years tehre are going to be all these millionarie 20 eyar olds
Mar 19 09:58:38 <kakobrekla>	like richie riches
Mar 19 09:58:43 <kakobrekla>	with their own mcdonalds
Mar 19 09:58:53 <kakobrekla>	n stuff
Mar 19 09:59:01 <Bowjob>	yah me
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Mar 19 09:59:13 <Bowjob>	thinking of a black lambo
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Mar 19 09:59:27 <Chaang-Noi>	many will sell out after geting 100% return, like some people did with ltc :)
Mar 19 09:59:45 <Bowjob>	im up by 5x, almost
Mar 19 09:59:49 <kakobrekla>	with time, institutions will hold most btc
Mar 19 09:59:52 <Bowjob>	riding this bull to the top
Mar 19 10:00:24 <Chaang-Noi>	honestly if i get a lot of money i wont really buy anything, i will travel a bit more
Mar 19 10:00:35 <Chaang-Noi>	want has go to anartica
Mar 19 10:00:38 <Bowjob>	when my holdings are worth more than a country's entier gdp, the world is my playground
Mar 19 10:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48443619 BTC [-]
Mar 19 10:01:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.48483624 = 484.3514 BTC [+]
Mar 19 10:01:26 <Chaang-Noi>	why all these 75 puts?
Mar 19 10:01:43 <kakobrekla>	> usagi: The company owns it. Essentially, since I am liable for it, I own it.
Mar 19 10:01:52 <kakobrekla>	liable for silver but not cpa debt
Mar 19 10:01:56 <kakobrekla>	kinda strange isnt it
Mar 19 10:02:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont even try
Mar 19 10:03:21 <kakobrekla>	>and I'm sure once you get on track with how we operate you will understand it. Until then, rest assured that everything is okay here.
Mar 19 10:03:29 <kakobrekla>	is this some sort of a fan club?
Mar 19 10:03:38 <Chaang-Noi>	no idea
Mar 19 10:03:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.8649 = 19.0278 BTC [+]
Mar 19 10:04:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 10:06:52 <mjr_>	ok, i have not seen one mention of bitcoin being either traded or used to fund accounts on etoro
Mar 19 10:07:05 <mjr_>	they have blogged about it a little
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Mar 19 10:07:14 <mjr_>	but there is no mention of them accepting it or allowing you to trade it
Mar 19 10:07:19 <kakobrekla>	it will be traded as cfd
Mar 19 10:07:26 <kakobrekla>	is all
Mar 19 10:07:30 <mjr_>	ok...where is the link where i can see that pair?
Mar 19 10:07:37 <kakobrekla>	not yet
Mar 19 10:07:45 <mjr_>	its not under commodity or currency...did they do a press release or something?
Mar 19 10:07:57 <kakobrekla>	it was bloged
Mar 19 10:08:19 <mjr_>	well...i am sure they are interested in doing it, but i was hoping for an announcement
Mar 19 10:10:47 <mjr_>	also...i am not sure how you offer a CFD in the US
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Mar 19 10:11:52 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 55
Mar 19 10:11:53 <gribble>	There are currently 2625.7187 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 144414.136288 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.7392 seconds
Mar 19 10:12:21 <mjr_>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/04/09/another-market-not-available-to-u-s-citizens/
Mar 19 10:13:39 <kakobrekla>	lul
Mar 19 10:13:50 <kakobrekla>	us is fucked
Mar 19 10:13:53 <mjr_>	so yeah...US sucks
Mar 19 10:13:59 <kakobrekla>	i told before
Mar 19 10:13:59 <mjr_>	not allowed to do CFD
Mar 19 10:14:06 <kakobrekla>	bitcoiners should move to yurop
Mar 19 10:14:16 <mjr_>	or south america
Mar 19 10:14:27 <mjr_>	i was wondering what the bitcoin evnironment was like in the philippines
Mar 19 10:14:30 <Diablo-D3>	europe is falling apart anyhow
Mar 19 10:14:33 <mjr_>	they have a huge market for remittances
Mar 19 10:14:42 <kakobrekla>	Diablo-D3 thats the beauty of it
Mar 19 10:14:58 <Diablo-D3>	how does that have any beauty?
Mar 19 10:15:05 <Diablo-D3>	remember the riots in greece?
Mar 19 10:15:12 <Diablo-D3>	thats going to happen in every city in every country now
Mar 19 10:15:14 <kakobrekla>	what about them
Mar 19 10:15:24 <kakobrekla>	we have them for a while now too
Mar 19 10:15:26 <kakobrekla>	so fuckin what
Mar 19 10:15:38 <Diablo-D3>	they burned half of greece down, dude
Mar 19 10:15:54 <kakobrekla>	they nuked parliament here
Mar 19 10:16:02 <Diablo-D3>	wheres here?
Mar 19 10:16:10 <kakobrekla>	slovenia
Mar 19 10:16:22 <Diablo-D3>	thats a real country?
Mar 19 10:16:32 <kakobrekla>	no, NSK is real
Mar 19 10:16:46 <Diablo-D3>	at any rate, I havent seen any news about slovenia
Mar 19 10:16:48 <Diablo-D3>	but I dont doubt it
Mar 19 10:16:57 <Diablo-D3>	but wait until it starts happening in germany
Mar 19 10:17:01 <Diablo-D3>	and berlin gets burned to the ground
Mar 19 10:17:09 <kakobrekla>	you have no clue whats happenin here
Mar 19 10:17:12 <Diablo-D3>	then you will understand what I mean by "europe is fucked"
Mar 19 10:17:13 <kakobrekla>	germany is doing just fine
Mar 19 10:17:28 <Diablo-D3>	germany WILLL do just fine if they exit the EU now
Mar 19 10:17:33 <Diablo-D3>	and issue their own currency
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Mar 19 10:18:08 <kakobrekla>	diablo tokens.
Mar 19 10:18:20 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 55
Mar 19 10:18:25 <gribble>	There are currently 2559.549 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 140775.164133 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
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Mar 19 10:18:48 <mjr_>	germany switches to bitcoin
Mar 19 10:18:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01959 BTC [+]
Mar 19 10:18:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.019599 = 0.784 BTC [+]
Mar 19 10:18:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01966 = 0.1966 BTC [+]
Mar 19 10:19:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 239 @ 0.01985 = 4.7442 BTC [+]
Mar 19 10:19:04 <Diablo-D3>	mjr_: unlikely
Mar 19 10:19:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.01988 = 0.7952 BTC [+]
Mar 19 10:19:09 <mjr_>	lol it was a joke
Mar 19 10:19:18 <mjr_>	did not think that was likely
Mar 19 10:19:29 <chmod755>	iceland should switch to bitcoin
Mar 19 10:19:39 <chmod755>	it's a small country with many internet users
Mar 19 10:19:51 <mjr_>	iceland dealt with their credit issues in a great way for their people
Mar 19 10:19:59 <mjr_>	more people should have followed their example
Mar 19 10:20:18 <Diablo-D3>	I agree
Mar 19 10:20:19 <Diablo-D3>	iceland won
Mar 19 10:20:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-]
Mar 19 10:20:25 <Diablo-D3>	they crashed the banks and press the reset button
Mar 19 10:23:16 <mjr_>	that is what should happen
Mar 19 10:23:22 <mjr_>	you lent money to a bad risk
Mar 19 10:23:26 <mjr_>	that is your fault not mine
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Mar 19 10:23:52 <mjr_>	it is basically predatory lending when you let someone borrow 10x their income and networth
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Mar 19 10:28:43 <Chaang-Noi>	wall is taking hits
Mar 19 10:28:45 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 55
Mar 19 10:28:45 <gribble>	There are currently 1883.3806 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 103577.890673 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.7350 seconds
Mar 19 10:29:01 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 55
Mar 19 10:29:02 <gribble>	There are currently 1883.3806 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 103577.890673 USD in total. | Data vintage: 71.5866 seconds
Mar 19 10:30:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Mar 19 10:30:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00075897 = 11.2707 BTC [-]
Mar 19 10:31:50 <Chaang-Noi>	less than 1k now
Mar 19 10:33:28 <kakobrekla>	bfl miner first testing
Mar 19 10:33:29 <kakobrekla>	http://www.blogiseverything.com/files/pics/usb_powered_cooking_pan_small.jpg
Mar 19 10:35:46 <Chaang-Noi>	and 55 is gone
Mar 19 10:36:27 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 56
Mar 19 10:36:28 <gribble>	There are currently 1954.0553 bitcoins offered at or under 56.0 USD, worth 108167.701023 USD in total. | Data vintage: 88.7404 seconds
Mar 19 10:36:37 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 60
Mar 19 10:36:37 <gribble>	There are currently 14347.373 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 839553.401471 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.1760 seconds
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Mar 19 10:45:41 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 10:45:42 <gribble>	5.38259 seconds
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Mar 19 10:47:05 <ThickAsThieves>	''ticker
Mar 19 10:47:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 10:47:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 55.66000, Best ask: 55.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 55.66000, 24 hour volume: 102733.91362795, 24 hour low: 47.50002, 24 hour high: 56.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.91918
Mar 19 10:47:36 <pgp>	and the hill is down again...
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Mar 19 10:51:56 <ThickAsThieves>	next stop, $50 or $60?
Mar 19 10:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.47606017 BTC [-]
Mar 19 10:54:10 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: $60
Mar 19 10:54:22 <Bugpowder>	won't take long
Mar 19 10:54:28 <Bugpowder>	cyprusssss
Mar 19 10:56:03 <ThickAsThieves>	but theres bound to be some selloffs
Mar 19 10:56:29 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 10:56:29 <gribble>	0 seconds
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Mar 19 10:58:45 <Chaang-Noi>	56 did not last long at all
Mar 19 10:59:03 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 57
Mar 19 10:59:08 <gribble>	There are currently 955.56252 bitcoins offered at or under 57.0 USD, worth 54006.2376327 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 19 10:59:20 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 60
Mar 19 10:59:20 <gribble>	There are currently 12557.116 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 741836.013873 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.1822 seconds
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Mar 19 11:01:52 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 56
Mar 19 11:01:52 <gribble>	There are currently 12071.718 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 677336.979852 USD in total. | Data vintage: 31.4974 seconds
Mar 19 11:02:14 <Chaang-Noi>	just as many bids over 56 as asks to 60, jesus h christ
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Mar 19 11:02:53 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 56
Mar 19 11:02:53 <gribble>	There are currently 12071.718 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 677336.979852 USD in total. | Data vintage: 92.4568 seconds
Mar 19 11:03:22 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 19 11:03:44 <mod6>	damn
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Mar 19 11:04:09 <BUGPOWDER>	holy sheet
Mar 19 11:04:15 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 19 11:04:21 <BUGPOWDER>	look at that ask wall
Mar 19 11:04:27 <BUGPOWDER>	;;asks 56
Mar 19 11:04:28 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 56.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.0772 seconds
Mar 19 11:04:30 <BUGPOWDER>	bid
Mar 19 11:04:34 <BUGPOWDER>	;;bids 56
Mar 19 11:04:35 <gribble>	There are currently 369.55094 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 20755.939292 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.8987 seconds
Mar 19 11:04:49 <BUGPOWDER>	ok
Mar 19 11:04:51 <BUGPOWDER>	its gone
Mar 19 11:04:52 <Chaang-Noi>	they took the wall down
Mar 19 11:04:56 <Chaang-Noi>	but it waws there
Mar 19 11:04:57 <BUGPOWDER>	I guess he is just gonna buy it
Mar 19 11:05:06 <BUGPOWDER>	that wall would never work anyway
Mar 19 11:05:07 <Chaang-Noi>	56.9
Mar 19 11:05:12 <BUGPOWDER>	people would just buy over it
Mar 19 11:05:21 <BUGPOWDER>	unless there was a big dump
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Mar 19 11:05:27 <BUGPOWDER>	actually it might work
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Mar 19 11:05:41 <BUGPOWDER>	Yah, I think we hit $60 within the hour
Mar 19 11:06:21 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 19 11:06:22 <gribble>	1 BTC = 56.90000 U.S. dollars = 43.9925777 Euros
Mar 19 11:07:55 <BUGPOWDER>	"Theymos I am a 21-year-old computer science student from Wisconsin."
Mar 19 11:07:59 <BUGPOWDER>	wat?
Mar 19 11:08:07 <BUGPOWDER>	Is he just trolling people?
Mar 19 11:08:15 <BUGPOWDER>	57.50
Mar 19 11:08:27 <BUGPOWDER>	$60
Mar 19 11:08:29 <BUGPOWDER>	!
Mar 19 11:08:30 <kakobrekla>	no and hashking is 13
Mar 19 11:08:40 <mod6>	lol
Mar 19 11:08:45 <BUGPOWDER>	$60.29
Mar 19 11:08:51 <Chaang-Noi>	that wall was not sold into, he took it down
Mar 19 11:08:52 <kakobrekla>	what are we just spitting out random numbers now?
Mar 19 11:08:54 <kakobrekla>	30242.31
Mar 19 11:08:56 <BUGPOWDER>	no
Mar 19 11:08:58 <BUGPOWDER>	thats the price
Mar 19 11:09:00 <BUGPOWDER>	of bitcoin
Mar 19 11:09:01 <BUGPOWDER>	now
Mar 19 11:09:04 <Chaang-Noi>	bugpowder last i heard he was 20, so it checks out
Mar 19 11:09:15 <BUGPOWDER>	he market bought with the wall
Mar 19 11:09:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 11:09:16 <gribble>	21.857546 seconds
Mar 19 11:09:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 11:09:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 56.75001, Best ask: 56.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12999, Last trade: 56.75001, 24 hour volume: 104957.41050327, 24 hour low: 47.51000, 24 hour high: 57.00000, 24 hour vwap: 51.04947
Mar 19 11:09:36 <kakobrekla>	ah ok
Mar 19 11:09:44 <BUGPOWDER>	clark moody caught it
Mar 19 11:09:45 <kakobrekla>	sorry for jumping on ya.
Mar 19 11:09:45 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobreka is hashking really 13? i thought that was just a joke
Mar 19 11:09:49 <mod6>	last $60.09
Mar 19 11:10:03 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi yeah we thought so too
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Mar 19 11:10:29 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 19 11:10:37 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol, i should have known when he called me a scammer for not paying him dividends on my bonds cuz he had already sold them... lolol btcland
Mar 19 11:10:39 <mjr_>	tradehill has one order to sell at $3000
Mar 19 11:10:59 <mjr_>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 11:11:00 <gribble>	34.77577 seconds
Mar 19 11:11:04 <mjr_>	dayum
Mar 19 11:11:09 <pgp>	jesus!
Mar 19 11:11:10 <Chaang-Noi>	jesus fuck
Mar 19 11:11:24 <Chaang-Noi>	62
Mar 19 11:11:28 <pgp>	this is some crazy shit
Mar 19 11:11:45 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi hows litecoin doin
Mar 19 11:11:53 <Chaang-Noi>	well atleast that wall at 60 is gone, a small one at 64
Mar 19 11:12:16 <BUGPOWDER>	Glad I bought those calls
Mar 19 11:12:19 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobreka .0095 so up esp considering btc is moving uup
Mar 19 11:12:25 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 19 11:12:27 <BUGPOWDER>	I think 62 is a bad print
Mar 19 11:12:27 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 19 11:12:35 <kakobrekla>	nmc is also up concidering btc
Mar 19 11:12:39 <kakobrekla>	so great!
Mar 19 11:12:41 <pgp>	$1 spread
Mar 19 11:12:44 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ask 60
Mar 19 11:12:45 <gribble>	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
Mar 19 11:12:51 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 60
Mar 19 11:12:52 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 79.4836 seconds
Mar 19 11:12:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 70
Mar 19 11:12:56 <gribble>	There are currently 15933.287 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 1064561.16994 USD in total. | Data vintage: 84.4513 seconds
Mar 19 11:13:07 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 62
Mar 19 11:13:08 <gribble>	There are currently 48.927719 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 2985.0757865 USD in total. | Data vintage: 95.8431 seconds
Mar 19 11:13:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 65
Mar 19 11:13:12 <gribble>	There are currently 6238.7322 bitcoins offered at or under 65.0 USD, worth 397953.724648 USD in total. | Data vintage: 100.6715 seconds
Mar 19 11:13:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 11:13:25 <gribble>	68.980126 seconds
Mar 19 11:13:27 <BUGPOWDER>	hmm... maybe it did hit it, I never saw that trade happen though
Mar 19 11:13:30 <ThickAsThieves>	dang
Mar 19 11:13:37 <mod6>	yeah it says it hit 62.0
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Mar 19 11:15:28 <Chaang-Noi>	well 54 coins are offered at or under 62
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Mar 19 11:15:34 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 62
Mar 19 11:15:34 <gribble>	There are currently 1060.2704 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 64880.7926418 USD in total. | Data vintage: 108.6023 seconds
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Mar 19 11:15:40 <Chaang-Noi>	well now more...
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Mar 19 11:16:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 11:16:36 <gribble>	81.443292 seconds
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Mar 19 11:17:16 <mjr_>	wow $3 cheaper on bitfloor
Mar 19 11:17:26 <Chaang-Noi>	2013-03-19 11:02:23 to 2013-03-19 11:12:23:  Avg price: 58.566 (56.200 to 62.000) Total volume: 8586.48399, Cumulative cost: 511324.00000  Buy volume: 7933.77667 (473468.31 USD), Sell volume: 652.70731 (37856.53 USD)  Ratio: 12.15518 ( 12.51)
Mar 19 11:17:30 <ThickAsThieves>	falling fast
Mar 19 11:17:36 <ThickAsThieves>	58.5
Mar 19 11:17:38 <Chaang-Noi>	1/2 million fiat dump in 10 mins
Mar 19 11:17:49 <mjr_>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 11:17:49 <gribble>	114.508129 seconds
Mar 19 11:17:55 <mjr_>	almost two minutes now
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Mar 19 11:18:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i have a live coinlab connection
Mar 19 11:18:18 <ThickAsThieves>	for now...
Mar 19 11:18:29 <ThickAsThieves>	60.20
Mar 19 11:19:26 <ThickAsThieves>	57
Mar 19 11:19:37 <pgp>	and now for some reality
Mar 19 11:19:50 <Chaang-Noi>	$4 spread
Mar 19 11:19:55 <ThickAsThieves>	its jumping around
Mar 19 11:20:01 <Chaang-Noi>	buy at 62 sell at 56 lol
Mar 19 11:20:09 <Chaang-Noi>	$6 spread i mean
Mar 19 11:20:16 <ThickAsThieves>	shit i think itll stabilize
Mar 19 11:20:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21367 @ 0.0007343 = 15.6898 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4783 @ 0.00073344 = 3.508 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:20:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 11:20:33 <gribble>	111.972092 seconds
Mar 19 11:20:35 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 11:20:36 <gribble>	107.616952 seconds
Mar 19 11:20:40 <ThickAsThieves>	59.8
Mar 19 11:21:03 <Chaang-Noi>	so much for 47.5 is the new 5
Mar 19 11:21:09 <pgp>	;;goxlag
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Mar 19 11:22:07 <gribble>	135.48409 seconds
Mar 19 11:22:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.829 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:22:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.828 = 1.656 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:22:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8222 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:22:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8221 = 8.221 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 11:23:28 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 11:23:29 <gribble>	122.409422 seconds
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Mar 19 11:24:35 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 11:24:35 <gribble>	29.120795 seconds
Mar 19 11:27:10 <Chaang-Noi>	57 to 62 to 57 lol
Mar 19 11:28:50 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 62
Mar 19 11:28:50 <gribble>	There are currently 4093.7415 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 248124.847411 USD in total. | Data vintage: 92.1101 seconds
Mar 19 11:29:02 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 57
Mar 19 11:29:02 <gribble>	There are currently 106.35268 bitcoins demanded at or over 57.0 USD, worth 6093.23499578 USD in total. | Data vintage: 104.3026 seconds
Mar 19 11:29:07 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 56
Mar 19 11:29:07 <gribble>	There are currently 1398.1248 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 78641.1004811 USD in total. | Data vintage: 109.2912 seconds
Mar 19 11:29:12 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 55
Mar 19 11:29:12 <gribble>	There are currently 3118.6452 bitcoins demanded at or over 55.0 USD, worth 173403.849411 USD in total. | Data vintage: 114.0207 seconds
Mar 19 11:34:28 <mjr_>	;;ticker
Mar 19 11:34:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.56000, Best ask: 57.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 57.61000, 24 hour volume: 122812.31066450, 24 hour low: 47.51000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.26281
Mar 19 11:35:00 <mjr_>	;;calc (52.26281-41)/52.26281
Mar 19 11:35:00 <gribble>	0.215503337842
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Mar 19 11:37:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 21 @ 0.2 = 4.2 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:39:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:39:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16002 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:39:52 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 11:39:52 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 19 11:40:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:40:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.2309 = 2.309 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 11:41:42 <benkay>	fifty seven!
Mar 19 11:41:57 <benkay>	i wake up to this nonsense.
Mar 19 11:42:01 <benkay>	every day.
Mar 19 11:42:10 <Chaang-Noi>	total bid: 7,756,029 USD | total ask: 52,027 BTC | ratio: 149.08 USD/BTC
Mar 19 11:42:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.004231 = 0.2116 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:42:56 <benkay>	and goodness i see we were trading all the way up to 62
Mar 19 11:43:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:44:09 <Chaang-Noi>	benkay yeah, massive walls down in one go, this is a correction to that, we will be up to 65 shortly, make sure your seatbelts are on
Mar 19 11:46:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 8 @ 0.2 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Mar 19 11:51:32 <benkay>	;;asks 40
Mar 19 11:51:32 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.0844 seconds
Mar 19 11:51:36 <benkay>	heh.
Mar 19 11:54:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Mar 19 11:55:47 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 59
Mar 19 11:55:52 <gribble>	There are currently 14.925743 bitcoins offered at or under 59.0 USD, worth 880.61884113 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds
Mar 19 11:55:58 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 62
Mar 19 11:55:58 <gribble>	There are currently 4151.5081 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 251811.333797 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.3287 seconds
Mar 19 11:56:05 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 55
Mar 19 11:56:05 <gribble>	There are currently 4312.4797 bitcoins demanded at or over 55.0 USD, worth 240297.179135 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.6690 seconds
Mar 19 11:56:13 <Chaang-Noi>	nice
Mar 19 11:57:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8647 BTC [+]
Mar 19 12:00:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.295 BTC [-]
Mar 19 12:01:32 <benkay>	is there a market cap command?
Mar 19 12:02:06 <Chaang-Noi>	no but its like 10900000 time 58
Mar 19 12:02:21 <Chaang-Noi>	so around 600 million
Mar 19 12:03:00 <benkay>	i'm more interested in plotting asicminer mktcap over time
Mar 19 12:03:27 <benkay>	;;asks 100
Mar 19 12:03:32 <gribble>	There are currently 38868.333 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2888163.25634 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Mar 19 12:03:48 <benkay>	asks 200
Mar 19 12:03:52 <benkay>	;;asks 200
Mar 19 12:03:52 <gribble>	There are currently 42540.219 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 3435013.85974 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.0105 seconds
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Mar 19 12:06:04 <unbalanced>	benkay: market cap is visible at http://www.bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/
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Mar 19 12:06:55 <benkay>	thanks unbalanced, i'm more interested in mktcap on a per-asset basis
Mar 19 12:07:27 <benkay>	has anyone done any work on the performance of bitcoin assets relative to bit coin?
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Mar 19 12:11:52 <deadweasel>	holding BTC is better unless you are extremely plugged into the assets you are buying selling.  for the average bitcoiner, anyhow.
Mar 19 12:12:15 <jcpham>	hooooooooooooooooooooolf
Mar 19 12:12:18 <jcpham>	for a long long time
Mar 19 12:12:19 <jcpham>	for a long long time
Mar 19 12:12:32 <deadweasel>	assets, you mean?
Mar 19 12:12:46 <deadweasel>	i'm holding some for a long long time.  just as an experimento
Mar 19 12:13:19 <benkay>	deadweasel i have a hunch you're right
Mar 19 12:13:23 <benkay>	but
Mar 19 12:13:30 <benkay>	"in god we trust. all others must bring data."
Mar 19 12:13:59 <deadweasel>	true, I have run no numbers on that.  It's my gut feeling.
Mar 19 12:14:26 <deadweasel>	i'm fairly sure I could make the data say what I want it to say, if I really tried, so I just go with my gut
Mar 19 12:14:43 <deadweasel>	data doesn't lie, but people do.  :)
Mar 19 12:16:31 <benkay>	i like charting things
Mar 19 12:16:46 <benkay>	more accurately, charting stuff is a thing that i like to do
Mar 19 12:17:09 <deadweasel>	how is that more accurate?
Mar 19 12:17:13 <benkay>	fun_things.append(charting)
Mar 19 12:17:26 <benkay>	don't hold me to that
Mar 19 12:17:26 <deadweasel>	lol.stuff()
Mar 19 12:17:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]
Mar 19 12:17:41 <benkay>	i'm sitting on a train and the coffee place is closed
Mar 19 12:18:14 <deadweasel>	well, grab price history and build a scenario tool and see if you can get historical data on assets and get busy!
Mar 19 12:18:21 <deadweasel>	i'm curious
Mar 19 12:18:36 <benkay>	too busy building real thing
Mar 19 12:18:43 <benkay>	only making charts that i need to make
Mar 19 12:18:58 <deadweasel>	reminds me, I need to do some work.  thx!
Mar 19 12:18:58 <benkay>	price history for asicminer does not return on time invested have at the moment
Mar 19 12:21:05 <benkay>	don't do it
Mar 19 12:22:30 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
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Mar 19 12:22:32 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226774 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1033 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 7 hours, 8 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6214082.21368 | Estimated Percent Change: 28.18759
Mar 19 12:22:39 <kakobrekla>	there ya go Enky
Mar 19 12:23:12 <benkay>	?
Mar 19 12:25:02 <TomServo>	28%?! Yikes.
Mar 19 12:25:43 <pgp>	7.38 minutes avg between blocks...
Mar 19 12:26:14 <pgp>	lots of hardware came online in the last 9 days...
Mar 19 12:26:18 <deadweasel>	gotta get it back to 10
Mar 19 12:26:36 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 12:26:37 <gribble>	21.865695 seconds
Mar 19 12:26:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073866 = 4.2842 BTC [+]
Mar 19 12:27:10 <deadweasel>	;;ticker --last
Mar 19 12:27:10 <gribble>	56.89000
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Mar 19 12:29:59 <pgp>	55 gone
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Mar 19 12:33:03 <mjr_>	that was a fun ride
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Mar 19 12:35:30 <pigeons>	anyone heard from topace?
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Mar 19 12:35:48 <topace__>	hi
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Mar 19 12:36:14 <deadweasel>	howdy
Mar 19 12:36:20 <topace__>	weird routing issue
Mar 19 12:36:23 <topace__>	cant figure it out
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Mar 19 12:36:40 <topace__>	soemone traceroute 198.41.28.231 for me ?
Mar 19 12:37:11 <jcpham>	i lose the route at hop 32... looks like jupiter or uranus
Mar 19 12:37:39 <topace__>	6  border1-faste2-0.magma.ca (209.217.64.38)  46.098 ms  24.215 ms  24.056 ms
Mar 19 12:37:39 <topace__>	 7  border5-faste0-0.magma.ca (209.217.64.42)  25.576 ms  27.031 ms  28.733 ms
Mar 19 12:37:39 <topace__>	 8  198.32.235.40 (198.32.235.40)  30.663 ms  32.602 ms  33.566 ms
Mar 19 12:37:39 <topace__>	 9  173-195-50.214.tel-ott.com (173.195.50.214)  42.963 ms  45.431 ms  46.764 ms
Mar 19 12:37:39 <topace__>	10  198.41.28.231 (198.41.28.231)  48.645 ms  50.038 ms  51.511 ms
Mar 19 12:37:44 <topace__>	should come in like that
Mar 19 12:37:49 <topace__>	which it does for me from my office
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Mar 19 12:37:59 <topace__>	but from othe rlocations, its crapping out somewhere as well
Mar 19 12:38:21 <deadweasel>	hop 13, after 38.122.68.178
Mar 19 12:38:23 <deadweasel>	for me
Mar 19 12:39:07 <topace__>	yea thast the IP it stops on for me from one of my other servers
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Mar 19 12:39:34 <topace__>	how do you tell customers "the server is fine, its just the routing thats fucked up"
Mar 19 12:39:54 <topace__>	when most customers say "whats a server? whats a route?"
Mar 19 12:40:07 <TomServo>	topace__: You tell them to contact their ISP and provide them the last hop.
Mar 19 12:40:09 <kakobrekla>	you say server is us, route is you
Mar 19 12:40:13 <kakobrekla>	we = ok, you = fucked.
Mar 19 12:40:37 <deadweasel>	if my experience with bitcoin business is of any value, you should ignore the customer until the issue is fixed
Mar 19 12:40:44 <pigeons>	i hear it all the time one way or another as "it works on my box" usually from the developer
Mar 19 12:40:49 <deadweasel>	then possibly continue ignoring after said fixing
Mar 19 12:41:07 <deadweasel>	"it works in my local environment"
Mar 19 12:41:12 <deadweasel>	fuck your local environment
Mar 19 12:41:22 <topace__>	oh mmm 38.122.68.178 is my data center...
Mar 19 12:41:29 <deadweasel>	lol topace__
Mar 19 12:41:31 <TomServo>	haha
Mar 19 12:41:38 <topace__>	wonder why traceroute doesnt go through that when i traceroute from my office
Mar 19 12:41:47 <topace__>	must be coming in on a different network
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Mar 19 12:42:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 12:42:43 <gribble>	69.287552 seconds
Mar 19 12:42:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 12:42:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 55.01000, Best ask: 55.44999, Bid-ask spread: 0.43999, Last trade: 55.00000, 24 hour volume: 131954.29179881, 24 hour low: 47.52100, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.64803
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Mar 19 12:43:29 <BUGPOWDER>	here comes the bounce...
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Mar 19 12:44:30 <topace__>	this might be 100% unrelated to the new switch i just installed yesterday, or it might be 100% because of the new switch
Mar 19 12:44:31 <topace__>	lol
Mar 19 12:44:36 <pigeons>	:)
Mar 19 12:44:43 <topace__>	but if the switch went in yesterday, why only fail this morning
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Mar 19 12:44:56 <deadweasel>	is it a managed switch?  did you configure it?
Mar 19 12:44:59 <pigeons>	needed to warm up
Mar 19 12:45:19 <topace__>	ye amanged switch
Mar 19 12:45:21 <topace__>	catalyst 2960
Mar 19 12:45:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.8645 = 13.832 BTC [-]
Mar 19 12:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22127 @ 0.00073344 = 16.2288 BTC [-]
Mar 19 12:45:55 <topace__>	okay now traceroute to 198.41.28.228
Mar 19 12:46:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8644 = 1.7288 BTC [-]
Mar 19 12:46:02 <topace__>	(or .231)
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Mar 19 12:47:10 <deadweasel>	hops right through the server
Mar 19 12:47:29 <topace__>	fucking data center
Mar 19 12:48:24 <pigeons>	site is working
Mar 19 12:48:32 <topace__>	excellent
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Mar 19 12:49:15 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 19 12:49:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 56.64000, Best ask: 56.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 56.98000, 24 hour volume: 134791.46988100, 24 hour low: 47.54000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.73807
Mar 19 12:49:21 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 12:49:21 <gribble>	63.835124 seconds
Mar 19 12:49:22 <topace__>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 19 12:49:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.53010000 / 0.53168333 / 0.53200000 (6 shares, 3.19010000 BTC), 7D: 0.50030000 / 0.52350856 / 0.59999900 (1197 shares, 626.63975002 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.59492594 / 0.75100000 (5740 shares, 3414.87486892 BTC)
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Mar 19 13:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00073744 = 6.8951 BTC [+]
Mar 19 13:10:15 <kakobrekla>	!l m s.dice
Mar 19 13:10:16 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0051 BTC [+]
Mar 19 13:10:40 <kakobrekla>	!l m s.bbet
Mar 19 13:10:40 <assbot>	Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.0018 BTC [+]
Mar 19 13:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9537 @ 0.00073344 = 6.9948 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4663 @ 0.00073285 = 3.4173 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 13:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.515 = 1.03 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:25:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00901 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:25:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.009 = 0.045 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:30:06 <smickles>	"< mircea_popescu> miscounted them digits" << I made it easier to read $depth <asset> now
Mar 19 13:30:23 <kakobrekla>	ascii chart?
Mar 19 13:31:27 <jurov>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 19 13:31:28 <mpexbot>	jurov: Bids: ['2462 @ 0.00073285', '41300 @ 0.00071998', '1590 @ 0.00071886', '32459 @ 0.00068249', '25000 @ 0.000675']
Mar 19 13:31:29 <mpexbot>	jurov: Asks: ['5074 @ 0.00073744', '5400 @ 0.00074837', '3950 @ 0.00075897', '13911 @ 0.00076091', '29878 @ 0.00076717']
Mar 19 13:31:47 <jurov>	$markov is it fixed
Mar 19 13:31:47 <mpexbot>	jurov: (markov [<channel>] [word1 [word2]]) -- Returns a randomly-generated Markov Chain generated sentence from the data kept on <channel> (which is only necessary if not sent in the channel itself). If word1 and word2 are specified, they will be used to start the Markov chain.
Mar 19 13:31:59 <jurov>	$markov "is it fixed"
Mar 19 13:32:00 <mpexbot>	jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 19 13:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2462 @ 0.00073285 = 1.8043 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00071998 = 29.7352 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550N] 6 @ 0.34032895 = 2.042 BTC
Mar 19 13:32:28 <kakobrekla>	$markov rofl
Mar 19 13:32:28 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 19 13:32:36 <kakobrekla>	$markov you fail
Mar 19 13:32:37 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 19 13:33:06 <kakobrekla>	or what
Mar 19 13:33:12 <jurov>	btw, it should consider first parameter a chan only if it begins with #
Mar 19 13:33:19 <kakobrekla>	its kinda rand(){return 4;} here
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Mar 19 13:36:47 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 19 13:36:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 55.90000, Best ask: 56.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 56.00000, 24 hour volume: 142528.78744713, 24 hour low: 47.55000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.90602
Mar 19 13:38:28 <kakobrekla>	!exchanges bungeegum
Mar 19 13:38:56 <jurov>	!ticker m s.ponzi
Mar 19 13:38:57 <assbot>	Your actions are useless.
Mar 19 13:39:13 <kakobrekla>	!ticker glbse ppt.a
Mar 19 13:39:14 <assbot>	I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
Mar 19 13:39:22 <kakobrekla>	!ticker GLBSE ppt.e
Mar 19 13:39:23 <assbot>	I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
Mar 19 13:39:25 <kakobrekla>	eh
Mar 19 13:39:31 <kakobrekla>	!last GLBSE ppt.e
Mar 19 13:39:32 <assbot>	Last trade for PPT.E on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:39:34 <kakobrekla>	!last GLBSE ppt.a
Mar 19 13:39:35 <assbot>	Last trade for PPT.A on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [+]
Mar 19 13:39:38 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 19 13:39:41 <kakobrekla>	!last GLBSE ppt.b
Mar 19 13:39:42 <assbot>	Last trade for PPT.B on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [+]
Mar 19 13:39:50 <kakobrekla>	kinda strange
Mar 19 13:44:26 <jurov>	maybe it fails when no recent data
Mar 19 13:44:42 <jurov>	anyway, better error messages would be helpful
Mar 19 13:44:58 <kakobrekla>	no its not a fail
Mar 19 13:45:07 <kakobrekla>	!last GLBSE fake
Mar 19 13:45:07 <assbot>	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Mar 19 13:45:08 <kakobrekla>	see
Mar 19 13:45:09 <jurov>	!fail
Mar 19 13:45:28 <assbot>	i dont fail
Mar 19 13:45:31 <kakobrekla>	see
Mar 19 13:45:41 *	bungeegum 's head is about to explode :p
Mar 19 13:45:52 <jurov>	so when i name the exchange right, assbot is polite?
Mar 19 13:46:01 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 19 13:46:14 <kakobrekla>	assbot is polite all the time
Mar 19 13:46:23 <pigeons>	!last GLBSE SATOSHISDAEMON.horse
Mar 19 13:46:23 <assbot>	Have you got any tobacco?
Mar 19 13:46:34 <jborkl>	smickles, you around
Mar 19 13:46:35 <kakobrekla>	i might not have that.
Mar 19 13:46:39 <kakobrekla>	cause too old
Mar 19 13:46:41 <kakobrekla>	not sure
Mar 19 13:47:06 <jurov>	!ticker btct bitvps
Mar 19 13:47:09 <assbot>	[BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC),  7D: 0.0038 / 0.00473 / 0.00688 (350 shares, 1.7 BTC), 30D: 0.00341 / 0.00438 / 0.00689 (1105 shares, 4.8 BTC)
Mar 19 13:47:12 <kakobrekla>	meat: http://coinbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ee74sd-300x224.jpg
Mar 19 13:47:39 <jurov>	dunno where it ended
Mar 19 13:48:03 <kakobrekla>	on a 10k pizza as horse salami
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Mar 19 13:48:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00672 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:48:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.00671 = 0.0201 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:49:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 37 @ 0.006 = 0.222 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:49:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0059 = 0.59 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:49:10 <bungeegum>	i'll be back later. thank you kakobrekla for the info :)
Mar 19 13:49:10 <jurov>	oh, list of biggest btc luminaries: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.msg1642658#msg1642658
Mar 19 13:49:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 201 @ 0.00585 = 1.1759 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:49:17 <kakobrekla>	yw bungeegum
Mar 19 13:49:32 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 13:49:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.67786, Best ask: 57.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21214, Last trade: 57.67785, 24 hour volume: 143463.25501478, 24 hour low: 47.60000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.94004
Mar 19 13:49:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 13:49:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.67786, Best ask: 57.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21214, Last trade: 57.67785, 24 hour volume: 143463.25501478, 24 hour low: 47.60000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.94004
Mar 19 13:49:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 13:49:35 <gribble>	0.542955 seconds
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Mar 19 13:49:59 <kakobrekla>	250 paraipan
Mar 19 13:49:59 <kakobrekla>	250 Garr255
Mar 19 13:50:02 <kakobrekla>	500 OgNasty
Mar 19 13:50:03 <kakobrekla>	ROFL
Mar 19 13:50:36 <kakobrekla>	someone should just send him to s.dice
Mar 19 13:51:28 <jurov>	kakobrekla, how do you feel about a bet "At least one of bitcointalk treasurers will get scammer tag by...dunno when "
Mar 19 13:51:38 <jurov>	1st July?
Mar 19 13:51:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1590 @ 0.00071886 = 1.143 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:51:53 <kakobrekla>	i feel good about it but i dont approve that stuff
Mar 19 13:51:57 <kakobrekla>	nah more
Mar 19 13:52:01 <kakobrekla>	by end 2013
Mar 19 13:52:11 <jurov>	okay
Mar 19 13:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.985 = 3.97 BTC [-]
Mar 19 13:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 2 = 12 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 14:01:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 19 14:01:54 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226787 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1020 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 5 hours, 32 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6217631.41098 | Estimated Percent Change: 28.26081
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Mar 19 14:04:41 <mjr_>	hi
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Mar 19 14:05:01 <deadweasel>	howdy mjr_
Mar 19 14:05:27 <mjr_>	deadweasel: do you do any mining?
Mar 19 14:05:45 <mjr_>	which channel would people talk about fpga programming in?
Mar 19 14:05:57 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin-fpga
Mar 19 14:06:27 <mjr_>	thanks, that should have been obvious i suppose
Mar 19 14:06:29 <kakobrekla>	for bfl you can visit bitcoin-fucktards
Mar 19 14:06:42 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 19 14:06:53 <mjr_>	seems like avalon has got more machines coming online
Mar 19 14:07:24 <deadweasel>	mjr_: I did until my gfx card started whinnying the other day.
Mar 19 14:08:03 <mjr_>	i'm curious, from what i have seen and been told...the open source project for fpga mining uses distributed ram
Mar 19 14:08:07 <mjr_>	instead of block ram...
Mar 19 14:08:18 <mjr_>	just curious why that would be
Mar 19 14:09:24 <mjr_>	so far the only person i know who has the same chip that i am looking at has gotten 2 cores...i think you can get a lot more
Mar 19 14:10:47 <kakobrekla>	should do 'tradehill get re-closed' bet
Mar 19 14:16:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000711 = 0.0021 BTC [+]
Mar 19 14:20:04 <pigeons>	i still like which will make more money and still be around in 60 days, novacoin dice, coinlab, nasty fans, or tradehill
Mar 19 14:20:09 <pigeons>	correct anser is bfl
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Mar 19 14:29:36 <smickles>	< kakobrekla> ascii chart? << could be epic
Mar 19 14:29:43 <kakobrekla>	mhm
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Mar 19 14:30:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.005 = 15 BTC [-]
Mar 19 14:30:45 <smickles>	< jborkl> smickles, you around << yeah, log reading. almost current
Mar 19 14:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.515 BTC [-]
Mar 19 14:31:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.513 = 12.825 BTC [-]
Mar 19 14:31:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.512 = 2.048 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 14:35:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 101 @ 0.0099 = 0.9999 BTC [-]
Mar 19 14:37:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [-]
Mar 19 14:40:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104999 BTC [-]
Mar 19 14:41:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.104999 = 0.42 BTC [-]
Mar 19 14:41:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [+]
Mar 19 14:42:10 <Guest76216>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 19 14:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005 / 0.00506066 / 0.0051 (7627 shares, 38.60 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00513467 / 0.00599987 (74757 shares, 383.85 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609532 / 0.0069 (2301880 shares, 14,030.70 BTC)
Mar 19 14:43:13 <Guest76216>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 19 14:43:14 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  / 57.53184036 / 57.53184036 (6757 shares, 788.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 19 14:43:22 <Guest76216>	oh wow
Mar 19 14:43:43 <smickles>	yeah, the 'table trader' struk
Mar 19 14:43:52 <smickles>	*struck
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Mar 19 14:46:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.0099 = 0.0792 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 14:54:47 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 19 14:54:48 <gribble>	1 BTC = 57.30001 U.S. dollars = 44.3018478 Euros
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Mar 19 14:59:10 <jurov>	bitcoinity.org down
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Mar 19 15:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.512 = 2.048 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 15:11:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0047 = 0.0235 BTC [-]
Mar 19 15:11:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 32 @ 0.00462 = 0.1478 BTC [-]
Mar 19 15:13:00 <unbalanced>	smickles: what is the 'table trader'?
Mar 19 15:14:55 <unbalanced>	stupid question I guess... I know that ticker output looks wonky I just don't get why
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Mar 19 15:23:40 <kakobrekla>	cause its cached
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Mar 19 15:26:03 <smickles>	unbalanced: yeah, it's just the person/people who buy/sell all the available contracts on a given option. trading all the contracts 'on the table' ;)
Mar 19 15:30:20 <unbalanced>	ah thanks
Mar 19 15:30:55 <kakobrekla>	primeasic updated the page
Mar 19 15:31:02 <kakobrekla>	"LAST UNITS AVAILABLE!"
Mar 19 15:31:15 <kakobrekla>	for realz
Mar 19 15:32:02 <kakobrekla>	also
Mar 19 15:32:03 <kakobrekla>	>Note: Due to threats coming with army rangers with specialized "hardware" for local pickups, the option for local pickup is disabled and all orders cancelled. Say thanks to the people on bitcoin forums.
Mar 19 15:32:05 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 19 15:33:55 <topace__>	i r asic makr. me sell u asic. have working proto. 90GH for $600, send payment to 1GODDAMNYOUAREASTUPIDPERSON
Mar 19 15:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00470004 = 14.1001 BTC [-]
Mar 19 15:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.00470003 = 94.0006 BTC [-]
Mar 19 15:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00464835 = 0.2324 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 15:36:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00480598 = 9.612 BTC [+]
Mar 19 15:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.512 = 6.144 BTC [-]
Mar 19 15:37:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.50103 = 1.0021 BTC [-]
Mar 19 15:37:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.5002 = 3.0012 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 15:39:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 6 @ 0.15 = 0.9 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 15:43:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16003 BTC [+]
Mar 19 15:45:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 15:45:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 5 @ 0.003 = 0.015 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 16:10:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 16:10:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.85000, Best ask: 57.93990, Bid-ask spread: 0.08990, Last trade: 57.93990, 24 hour volume: 137341.61042539, 24 hour low: 47.75039, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 53.74691
Mar 19 16:10:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 16:10:32 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 19 16:17:08 <mod6>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 19 16:17:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  / 57.53393093 / 57.53393093 (6763 shares, 789.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 19 16:17:52 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 19 16:17:53 <gribble>	53.67
Mar 19 16:34:59 -RichiH-	[Global Notice] Hi all. PDPC, freenode’s parent organisation, has been dissolved. Details can be found at http://blog.freenode.net/ with a static copy at http://planet.freenode.net/
Mar 19 16:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13318 @ 0.00070462 = 9.3841 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 16:40:51 -mrmist-	[Global Notice] As a P.S. to the last global, no, we're not dying or going away.  If the blog is down, you can read details at https://plus.google.com/b/104326727082310562426/104326727082310562426/posts/CMW4Gst657v  thanks for flying freenode!
Mar 19 16:42:23 <Bowjob>	meow
Mar 19 16:42:28 <Bowjob>	I get rich just fapping
Mar 19 16:42:29 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 19 16:43:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00425 = 0.425 BTC [+]
Mar 19 16:44:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+]
Mar 19 16:44:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.861 = 1.722 BTC [+]
Mar 19 16:47:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.2309 = 1.1545 BTC [+]
Mar 19 16:49:30 <Namworld>	Stop getting rich, Bowjob. Spend on... well you know, just add an l to your name.
Mar 19 16:49:37 <Namworld>	You can afford it now. =/
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Mar 19 16:50:24 <Bowjob>	bowljob?
Mar 19 16:50:41 <Bowjob>	I prefer shooting arrows than making bowl, thanks.
Mar 19 16:51:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 11 @ 0.2 = 2.2 BTC [+]
Mar 19 16:53:29 <Namworld>	no... not that... but a bowljob is a bad haircut job.
Mar 19 16:53:41 <Namworld>	You don't want a bowl cut
Mar 19 16:53:59 <deadweasel>	i had a bowlcut for 13 years
Mar 19 16:54:13 <Bowjob>	i had that hairstyle when i was a kid
Mar 19 16:54:17 <Bowjob>	it was more like a mushroom
Mar 19 16:54:34 <deadweasel>	age 0-13, i certainly felt like a mushroom
Mar 19 16:55:03 <deadweasel>	now I just cut it all down to a #2 every two months.
Mar 19 16:55:17 <Bowjob>	when i got my first job, my friend said i could afford a girlfriend
Mar 19 16:55:18 <Bowjob>	heh
Mar 19 16:55:42 <Bowjob>	but im unemployed right now. i need like a min wage job, otherwise this is too easy
Mar 19 16:55:43 <Bowjob>	xD
Mar 19 16:58:34 <deadweasel>	if you want to remain employed at fapping and making money, just be nice to newbs and convince them to buy btc.
Mar 19 16:58:37 <deadweasel>	:)
Mar 19 16:58:39 <deadweasel>	time well spent
Mar 19 16:59:15 <jurov>	or hand out referral links to sites, like... coinbr?
Mar 19 16:59:51 <deadweasel>	haha
Mar 19 17:01:35 <jurov>	it starts to be interesting, some folks got recently as much as 0.3 BTC from referrals
Mar 19 17:01:57 <deadweasel>	that's interesting now that btc is 58
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Mar 19 17:02:38 <Namworld>	no, buy some shirts at BitcoinPride and go parade in town claiming how you'll never ahve to work again. When BTC/USD price skyrockets followed by a crash, rembember, you should be moving in the same direction as the torches. Preferably at a quicker speed.
Mar 19 17:03:12 <jurov>	if it crashes he'll just buy moar i guess
Mar 19 17:03:27 <Namworld>	I guess. But still... run from the mob.
Mar 19 17:04:11 <jurov>	why run? just stand up, deliver flame speech and point in vague direction of wallstreet
Mar 19 17:04:34 <Namworld>	oh right...
Mar 19 17:05:05 <Namworld>	Blame it on those financiers who are suddenly telling everyone how great Bitcoin is AFTER they acquired a stash?
Mar 19 17:06:37 <jurov>	oh btw, is there a bicoin mob? did anything really happen to anyone in bitcoinland?
Mar 19 17:07:17 <Namworld>	no
Mar 19 17:07:18 <jurov>	so far i only have heard about one silicon valley muggery (prolly fake)
Mar 19 17:08:10 <Namworld>	I'm just saying their might be if people with a newly acquired stash keeps promoting bitcoins. Price peaks, then go down, at some point. Late buyers would be very angry.
Mar 19 17:08:14 <jurov>	and some rape advocacy from mircea_popescu, but he can most likely successfully convince everyone it was consensual
Mar 19 17:08:55 <jurov>	and it has nothing to do with bitcoin after all
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Mar 19 17:12:55 <deadweasel>	http://gawker.com/5810161/man-carrying-dead-weasel-commits-funniest-crime-of-year
Mar 19 17:14:45 <smickles>	what were you involved in deadweasel ?
Mar 19 17:15:21 <deadweasel>	this jerk left me with some twat he punched...
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Mar 19 17:15:48 <smickles>	huh, i should read the article
Mar 19 17:15:56 <deadweasel>	unbelievable!
Mar 19 17:16:21 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox 62% of USD volume i think that is a record low
Mar 19 17:17:28 <jurov>	so it was the suspect's gf or the victim's or both?
Mar 19 17:17:35 <jurov>	deadweasel pls explain
Mar 19 17:18:01 <deadweasel>	nigga I'm dead, I don't know shit
Mar 19 17:18:44 <jurov>	how did you die?
Mar 19 17:18:45 <deadweasel>	pardon my colorful colloquialism.
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Mar 19 17:19:37 <deadweasel>	i was killed in the great bitcoin crash from the summer of 2011
Mar 19 17:19:41 <deadweasel>	gruesome
Mar 19 17:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.5001 = 10.002 BTC [-]
Mar 19 17:20:43 <deadweasel>	have you ever seen pet cemetary?
Mar 19 17:21:14 <deadweasel>	or... poltergeist?
Mar 19 17:21:20 <jurov>	so you're zombie? i hoped you've been properly prepared by taxidermist
Mar 19 17:21:23 <Namworld>	oh, I know what you're talking about.
Mar 19 17:21:51 <deadweasel>	no, just a dead varmint.
Mar 19 17:22:01 <Namworld>	After the crash, too many people couldn't feed their pets anymore. They had to... well suffice to say the pet cemetary got an overpopulation problem at that time.
Mar 19 17:23:24 <deadweasel>	all he wanted was some cat food to feed his weasel, genus Mustela of the Mustelidae family.
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Mar 19 17:24:09 <jurov>	his *dead* weasel? just got weirder
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Mar 19 17:24:37 <deadweasel>	well i don't know what the fuck a jurov is.
Mar 19 17:25:07 <deadweasel>	sounds legal
Mar 19 17:25:10 <jurov>	jurov is result of rogue taxidermy
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Mar 19 17:25:24 <jurov>	https://www.google.sk/search?q=rogue+taxidermy , click Images
Mar 19 17:25:34 <deadweasel>	now you're speakin my language
Mar 19 17:26:19 <jurov>	this: http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd192/req94gt/exterface_unicorn_03.jpg
Mar 19 17:26:45 <deadweasel>	oh my
Mar 19 17:26:59 <deadweasel>	not that
Mar 19 17:27:09 <jurov>	that's VERY rogue taxidermy
Mar 19 17:27:14 <deadweasel>	is that rogue taxidermy?
Mar 19 17:27:40 <smickles>	holy shit, photobucket is still around?
Mar 19 17:30:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 25 @ 0.0429 = 1.0725 BTC [-]
Mar 19 17:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 2 = 10 BTC [+]
Mar 19 17:31:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 13 @ 0.07479946 = 0.9724 BTC
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Mar 19 17:34:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5482 @ 0.00071372 = 3.9126 BTC [+]
Mar 19 17:34:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1069 @ 0.00070356 = 0.7521 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 17:50:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 17:50:16 <gribble>	2.617716 seconds
Mar 19 17:50:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 17:50:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.84798, Best ask: 57.90098, Bid-ask spread: 0.05300, Last trade: 57.84798, 24 hour volume: 131987.07798979, 24 hour low: 48.66000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 54.17870
Mar 19 17:50:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 19 17:50:29 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226804 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1003 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 19 hours, 57 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6147821.55611 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.82073
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Mar 19 17:58:20 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 19 17:58:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.96510, Best ask: 57.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01489, Last trade: 57.96510, 24 hour volume: 130276.64595685, 24 hour low: 48.98000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 54.25585
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Mar 19 18:21:36 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 19 18:21:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 58.50000, Best ask: 58.59999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 58.59999, 24 hour volume: 126788.58992428, 24 hour low: 49.05000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 54.43311
Mar 19 18:21:59 <Bowjob>	yawn
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Mar 19 18:26:48 <dub>	bow and arrows aye
Mar 19 18:27:09 <dub>	I thought it was blowjob with a chinese accent
Mar 19 18:27:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
Mar 19 18:27:55 <dub>	you rike one bowjob onry 15 dorra
Mar 19 18:28:19 <Bowjob>	it would be browjob if its asian accent
Mar 19 18:28:31 <mod6>	lol
Mar 19 18:30:05 <Ukto>	topace__: you around?
Mar 19 18:30:38 <topace__>	yessir
Mar 19 18:30:49 <Ukto>	any chance of setting up an AM pt on havelock?
Mar 19 18:30:54 <Ukto>	would really help increase arb
Mar 19 18:31:20 <topace__>	yea possibly...
Mar 19 18:31:35 <Ukto>	then we can have 3 sites up
Mar 19 18:31:41 <Ukto>	giving ppl some good elbow room :P
Mar 19 18:31:41 <topace__>	where's the "official" asicminer trading?
Mar 19 18:31:46 <Ukto>	there is none
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Mar 19 18:31:51 <topace__>	oye
Mar 19 18:32:26 <Ukto>	pm
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Mar 19 18:32:32 <Ukto>	i'll see what I can do to help :)
Mar 19 18:32:35 <topace__>	k
Mar 19 18:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00480598 = 0.9612 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 18:39:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 18:39:43 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 19 18:39:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
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Mar 19 18:39:47 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226810 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 997 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 19 hours, 6 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6143939.57487 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.74065
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Mar 19 18:39:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 18:39:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 58.36574, Best ask: 58.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23426, Last trade: 58.60000, 24 hour volume: 124489.28414014, 24 hour low: 49.23321, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 54.54887
Mar 19 18:41:03 <Bowjob>	seems that canadianbitcoins price went up to 65
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Mar 19 18:41:07 <Bowjob>	as a pree emp strike
Mar 19 18:41:36 <aviator>	sup everyone!
Mar 19 18:41:51 <aviator>	whats up with the 30btc entry to mpex?
Mar 19 18:42:15 <aviator>	$1,800.00? Am I reading into that right?
Mar 19 18:42:33 <Bowjob>	to keep away frivolous investors
Mar 19 18:42:43 <pizzaman1337>	heh, yeah, 30 BTC isn't what it used to be
Mar 19 18:42:59 <Bowjob>	back then 30 BTC was like 200 bucks
Mar 19 18:43:12 <pizzaman1337>	when I joined it was like $600
Mar 19 18:43:13 <aviator>	thats what i mean, shouldn't he lower it a bit consideriong?
Mar 19 18:43:21 <Bowjob>	30 BTC is still cheap if you have lots of coins
Mar 19 18:43:24 <Bowjob>	you can easily make it back
Mar 19 18:43:28 <BitHub>	how else is mircea going to buy hookers and cocaine?
Mar 19 18:43:32 <Bowjob>	or lose more coins
Mar 19 18:43:32 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 19 18:43:33 <aviator>	lol
Mar 19 18:43:52 <Bowjob>	id buy one but i only have 200 coins atm
Mar 19 18:44:03 <Bowjob>	not worth it for me, so only those with 1k coins
Mar 19 18:44:06 <aviator>	honestly, im surprised a large correction hasn't come in. it's awesome, but...
Mar 19 18:44:16 <BitHub>	forking?
Mar 19 18:44:20 <Bowjob>	we are correcting what are you talking about
Mar 19 18:44:23 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 19 18:44:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 58.37003, Best ask: 58.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17997, Last trade: 58.55000, 24 hour volume: 124295.30337685, 24 hour low: 49.23321, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 54.56192
Mar 19 18:44:29 <Bowjob>	yeah, its correcting upwards
Mar 19 18:44:40 <aviator>	lol
Mar 19 18:44:43 <aviator>	yup
Mar 19 18:44:50 <aviator>	pretty nice
Mar 19 18:45:04 <aviator>	nuts, actually huh?
Mar 19 18:45:08 <Bowjob>	everyones being shortsighted. btc will reach 100, so buy up
Mar 19 18:45:48 <Bowjob>	ive survived the flash crash from 26, to 20, from 49 to 36 and from 48 to 37
Mar 19 18:45:55 <Bowjob>	hilarious watching bears get gored
Mar 19 18:46:42 <aviator>	too risky to hold until 100. plus, there is so much money to be made if you learn the patterns
Mar 19 18:47:16 <Bowjob>	the only pattern i see, are bears getting squeezed
Mar 19 18:47:30 <Bowjob>	and forced to buy back higher
Mar 19 18:47:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 262 @ 0.000712 = 0.1865 BTC [+]
Mar 19 18:47:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 343 @ 0.000712 = 0.2442 BTC [+]
Mar 19 18:48:07 <aviator>	what was that from the bot?\
Mar 19 18:48:28 <aviator>	and why is there like 10000 people in here but noone talkin
Mar 19 18:48:33 <dub>	s.mpoe passthrough trading on btctc
Mar 19 18:48:46 <dub>	and, lurk moar
Mar 19 18:48:56 <aviator>	not familiar but thanks man
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Mar 19 18:53:44 <mod6>	heh
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Mar 19 18:58:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00462 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:01:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00462 = 0.0092 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:01:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8599 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:01:52 <benkay>	;;getrating benkay
Mar 19 19:01:53 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User benkay, rated since Sun Mar 10 10:57:45 2013. Cumulative rating 2, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=benkay
Mar 19 19:01:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00447999 = 0.224 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:01:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 830 @ 0.004451 = 3.6943 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:01:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00444441 = 2.6666 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070356 = 8.4427 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:05:44 <FabianB>	$vwap s.dice
Mar 19 19:05:46 <mpexbot>	FabianB: 1 day: average: 0.00473298 high: 0.0051 low: 0.00444441 volume: 30330 btc: 143.551269 7 day: average: 0.00501881 high: 0.00599987 low: 0.00444441 volume: 101487 btc: 509.34409263 30 day: average: 0.00607892 high: 0.0069 low: 0.00300001 volume: 2320808 btc: 14108.0127756
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Mar 19 19:12:25 <pigeons>	should be a nice dividend
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Mar 19 19:14:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 19:14:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 58.90001, Best ask: 58.92500, Bid-ask spread: 0.02499, Last trade: 58.90000, 24 hour volume: 123233.07019404, 24 hour low: 49.31100, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 54.64299
Mar 19 19:16:04 <smickles>	;;ident
Mar 19 19:16:04 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Mar 19 19:21:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16003 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 19:23:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12754 @ 0.00071978 = 9.1801 BTC [+]
Mar 19 19:23:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16002 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 19:23:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16002 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.004 = 16 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:24:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8599 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 19:24:58 <tiberiusiv>	satoshi dice useage has fallen ?
Mar 19 19:24:58 <tiberiusiv>	over the last few days
Mar 19 19:25:16 *	topace_ (~kvirc@CPEc0c1c03be745-CM00407b85cf6f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Mar 19 19:25:20 <pigeons>	donna, what about consistent when i looked a few days ago :)
Mar 19 19:25:25 <pigeons>	*dunno
Mar 19 19:25:57 <pigeons>	no looks like it went up
Mar 19 19:26:15 <tiberiusiv>	daily transactions on bitcoin went from 70k to 45k
Mar 19 19:26:17 <tiberiusiv>	thats from satoshi bets dropping
Mar 19 19:26:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.004 = 80 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:26:37 <pigeons>	amounts went up
Mar 19 19:26:45 <pigeons>	and yes they had a glitch the other day
Mar 19 19:27:41 <topace_>	looks like someone really wanted to ditch some shares
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Mar 19 19:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.41 = 10.25 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.40010002 = 10.0025 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:28:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.40010001 = 8.002 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:28:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:28:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.4 = 10.4 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:30:34 <pizzaman1337>	poor S.DICE, it needs a boost.
Mar 19 19:31:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16003 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 19:31:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33318 = 0.6664 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 19:31:52 <pigeons>	did you notice the notice mircea_popescu ?
Mar 19 19:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 19 19:31:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.84200, Best ask: 59.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00800, Last trade: 59.84200, 24 hour volume: 117139.99539755, 24 hour low: 50.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 55.05158
Mar 19 19:31:59 <pigeons>	no more freenode PDPC
Mar 19 19:32:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.4748 = 0.9496 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	what ?!
Mar 19 19:32:13 <pigeons>	but thanks for donating
Mar 19 19:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	haha no srsly, what notice ?
Mar 19 19:32:44 <pigeons>	http://blog.freenode.net/
Mar 19 19:32:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 19:32:52 <gribble>	30.436804 seconds
Mar 19 19:32:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 19 19:32:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.84200, Best ask: 59.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00800, Last trade: 59.84200, 24 hour volume: 117139.99539755, 24 hour low: 50.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 55.05158
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Mar 19 19:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	Due to the massive reduction in financial support we found ourselves in a position where being an incorporated organisation cost more than what we were able to bring in in donations and after years of operating at a loss it was decided that we would apply for the dissolution of the corporation in order to drastically reduce costs.
Mar 19 19:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	lmao. so wait, the few hundreds i donated were most of their fiscal income ?
Mar 19 19:34:56 <mircea_popescu>	seeing how... well... there's some costs to maintain status but they're not THAT high
Mar 19 19:35:46 <dub>	you were the first person to donate in years, someone is taking that money and running
Mar 19 19:35:50 <tiberiusiv>	who posted that
Mar 19 19:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	dub roflmao
Mar 19 19:36:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00574 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	wait, you're saying i got scammed by freenode ?
Mar 19 19:36:35 <pigeons>	richih
Mar 19 19:36:45 <tiberiusiv>	being an incorporated organisation costs like $200
Mar 19 19:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv http://blog.freenode.net/
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Mar 19 19:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv yeah. in the uk it's more like 250 pounds iirc
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Mar 19 19:37:21 <pigeons>	they shoulda taken bitcoins
Mar 19 19:37:36 <pigeons>	i should start a foundation...
Mar 19 19:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	everbody here is like... wutlol?!?
Mar 19 19:37:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.00575 = 0.0115 BTC [+]
Mar 19 19:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 ping
Mar 19 19:38:32 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: pong
Mar 19 19:38:38 <dub>	freenode is retarded
Mar 19 19:39:24 <benkay>	and yet runs a service that makes all of our lives a little better or easier for negligible outlay?
Mar 19 19:39:32 *	Bowjob (4b9d1e75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.157.30.117) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Mar 19 19:39:33 <dub>	though it got a lot less retarded after a certain someone got run over
Mar 19 19:39:44 <Bowjob>	did we actually hit 62
Mar 19 19:39:45 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 19 19:40:05 <dub>	im not aware of any other incorporated ircnets
Mar 19 19:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob we're headed for 100 here
Mar 19 19:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub me either iirc
Mar 19 19:40:20 <Bowjob>	yes of course
Mar 19 19:40:36 <Bowjob>	i was cleaning my room.. them bam! 62
Mar 19 19:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	i guess smickles just can't get a cloak huh.
Mar 19 19:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha this girl! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1641634#msg1641634
Mar 19 19:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7436 @ 0.00071978 = 5.3523 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 19:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	who ever heard of this nonsense anyway. dissolve the charity, not announce in advance...
Mar 19 19:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	you could say you know... hey douches... next month. next week! something.
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Mar 19 19:47:26 <benkay>	are you seriously surprised?
Mar 19 19:47:28 <benkay>	they don't have customers.
Mar 19 19:47:33 <benkay>	why should they act as if they did?
Mar 19 19:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	stakeholders is the correct expression in this circumstance.
Mar 19 19:48:20 <mircea_popescu>	and they do have those.
Mar 19 19:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	no charity can ever have customers.
Mar 19 19:49:12 <benkay>	probably why pathological behavior is so common among charities.
Mar 19 19:49:50 <error4733>	panic sell on S.dice wtf :(
Mar 19 19:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 19 19:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004 / 0.00440918 / 0.0051 (54330 shares, 239.55 BTC), 7D: 0.004 / 0.00482395 / 0.00599987 (125487 shares, 605.34 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00605764 / 0.0069 (2344808 shares, 14,204.01 BTC)
Mar 19 19:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	o hey. going back to ipo levels ?
Mar 19 19:51:21 <error4733>	40K profit since...
Mar 19 19:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 bitcoin markets be well fickle
Mar 19 19:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7158 @ 0.004 = 28.632 BTC [-]
Mar 19 19:52:56 <deadweasel>	bitfunder sdice is up, which is relative
Mar 19 19:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 976 @ 0.00073645 = 0.7188 BTC [+]
Mar 19 19:53:11 <deadweasel>	be well fickle indeed
Mar 19 19:53:24 <benkay>	bets on today's close?
Mar 19 19:53:31 <Bowjob>	dice doesnt look so good
Mar 19 19:54:44 <pizzaman1337>	benkay: today's close? market doesn't close...
Mar 19 19:55:01 <benkay>	pick a universal timestamp, pizzaman1337.
Mar 19 19:55:10 <benkay>	price at that time.
Mar 19 19:55:14 <Bowjob>	what ever happened to ianbakewell
Mar 19 19:55:19 <deadweasel>	would be a good way to do daily bets
Mar 19 19:55:21 <Bowjob>	he shorted btc at 34.50
Mar 19 19:55:28 <Bowjob>	hasnt been online for 15 days
Mar 19 19:55:39 <deadweasel>	depression?
Mar 19 19:55:55 <Bowjob>	he shorted s.dice  when it was 0.62
Mar 19 19:56:00 <Bowjob>	so he did something okay
Mar 19 19:56:05 <Bowjob>	not enough to cover 600 BTC short
Mar 19 19:56:19 <pigeons>	and when does he have to cover the dice, not out of the woods yet
Mar 19 20:00:46 <Bowjob>	whatever happened to proudhon
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Mar 19 20:03:01 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Mar 19 20:03:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.11711, Best ask: 59.74999, Bid-ask spread: 0.63288, Last trade: 59.11710, 24 hour volume: 111543.27108190, 24 hour low: 50.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 55.39889
Mar 19 20:03:47 <pizzaman1337>	$12 diff from the 24h low and high
Mar 19 20:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol this could be a meme.
Mar 19 20:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	"he shorted btc at XXX. hasnt been online for 15 days"
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Mar 19 20:06:04 <Bowjob>	not as bad as that dude who called 23.98 the top of 2013
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Mar 19 20:07:41 <error4733>	MP:not big diff b/t fickle et fucked. look at the book... just no way to sell if you want your money back.. :fu:
Mar 19 20:08:33 <Bowjob>	300 bucks at the end of the year
Mar 19 20:08:51 <pizzaman1337>	117`362 sell wall on S.DICE at .004... :(
Mar 19 20:09:12 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed
Mar 19 20:09:31 <pigeons>	i shorted at $2 and im still here
Mar 19 20:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 was a 3.5mn wall at 31 iirc. gone ?
Mar 19 20:09:54 <Bowjob>	I've seen S.Dice tanking honestly
Mar 19 20:09:55 <error4733>	yes, early today
Mar 19 20:09:56 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135760.0
Mar 19 20:09:57 <Bowjob>	read
Mar 19 20:10:50 <Bowjob>	I like how ian says more people will gamble on dice the higher the price
Mar 19 20:10:56 <Bowjob>	but then he shorts it anyway
Mar 19 20:11:09 <benkay>	problem of trading stocks denominated in rapidly appreciating currency
Mar 19 20:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	well... here's the thing. markets cycle. either this is nonsense and so the savvy will make a pretty penny buying it once the retail investors dumped
Mar 19 20:11:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00383838 = 7.6768 BTC [-]
Mar 19 20:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	or else the concerns are legitimate and sdice is going to shit.
Mar 19 20:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [+]
Mar 19 20:12:08 <BitHub>	its been going shit the last 2 months but okey
Mar 19 20:12:27 <Bowjob>	in any case, my concern was legit and proven right now
Mar 19 20:12:32 <Bowjob>	until dice goes back to 0.75
Mar 19 20:12:53 <BitHub>	sdice will myspace it up by end of the year
Mar 19 20:13:11 <Bowjob>	i got out at 0.75 and 0.62, lets see where this goes
Mar 19 20:13:27 <Bowjob>	i saw some whale playing, he lost 400 BTC on one bet or something
Mar 19 20:13:32 <BitHub>	they're divs are shit house too
Mar 19 20:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	iirc this month div is going to be low, a few hundred or something
Mar 19 20:13:45 <Bowjob>	for this month. dice is up about 3k
Mar 19 20:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Mar 19 20:13:59 <BitHub>	wait all month for small shit
Mar 19 20:14:16 <Bowjob>	erik was smart to sell those shares
Mar 19 20:14:34 <pizzaman1337>	of course he was, he probably foresaw this
Mar 19 20:14:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00072738 = 1.8912 BTC [-]
Mar 19 20:14:51 <pigeons>	foresaw what? increasing profits?
Mar 19 20:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	he still owns like what, 87% or so ?
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Mar 19 20:15:35 <Bowjob>	he doesnt own dice 100% irrc
Mar 19 20:15:40 <pizzaman1337>	pigeons: a month where S.DICE was lower and might have a grim-looking future compared to what it seemed it would be
Mar 19 20:15:53 <Bowjob>	he said thers 2-3 private investors
Mar 19 20:15:56 <pizzaman1337>	I think it's only a matter of time before the BTC price affects S.DICE bet volume
Mar 19 20:16:11 <pigeons>	pizzaman1337: people keep saying that and keep being wrong, but maybe
Mar 19 20:16:47 <pizzaman1337>	pigeons: I'd like to hope with them as I'm a shareholder (just hold a little)
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Mar 19 20:17:09 <pigeons>	pizzaman1337: re-read
Mar 19 20:17:26 <pizzaman1337>	ok, I'd like to be wrong
Mar 19 20:17:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2500 @ 0.0018 = 4.5 BTC [+]
Mar 19 20:17:47 <pigeons>	so far just you are wrong
Mar 19 20:18:05 <pizzaman1337>	I want to keep being wrong
Mar 19 20:18:10 <pizzaman1337>	:)
Mar 19 20:18:20 <pigeons>	ok, i bet you are wrong and right a few times before its over
Mar 19 20:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	^
Mar 19 20:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	if only i could
Mar 19 20:19:13 <error4733>	the 400 bet was just a losing martingale
Mar 19 20:19:39 <pigeons>	error4733: that's good
Mar 19 20:19:45 <pigeons>	it means suckers exist
Mar 19 20:20:16 <error4733>	true, they bought s.dice overpriced at 0.0075 :D
Mar 19 20:21:03 <Bowjob>	the 0.75 came with the expectation that the whale would continue playing
Mar 19 20:21:09 <pigeons>	who is a bigger sucker, the person still getting better than fiat dividends from her 0.0075 S.DICE shares, or the sucker playing a negative EV strategy?
Mar 19 20:21:13 <Bowjob>	with the same intensity or even better
Mar 19 20:21:15 <error4733>	i'm still in green but is earasing the btc rally :(
Mar 19 20:21:42 <Bowjob>	"hey chris surrender yet? "
Mar 19 20:21:45 <Bowjob>	He went offline
Mar 19 20:21:47 <Bowjob>	LOL
Mar 19 20:22:10 <Bowjob>	its the dude I told about BTC when it was 17, never bought any even though he expressed interest in buying some
Mar 19 20:22:15 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: will the mpex bot start doing some market making on options above 750 at some point?
Mar 19 20:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 quite likely.
Mar 19 20:22:46 <pizzaman1337>	any ETA? just curious
Mar 19 20:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	it was 1-35 last month, it was 1-20 before that
Mar 19 20:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	well... atm im trying to discern what tyhe fuck to do here, because price went up so much. i am guessing i'll do 15-150 by steps of 3
Mar 19 20:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	which means it'll wait till options expire.
Mar 19 20:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob i think the argument is misplaced. unless you actually NEED the btc, having the shares produces future revenue. even one satoshi is revenue
Mar 19 20:25:27 <mircea_popescu>	holding the btc or throwing them around in weird loan schemes etc does not.
Mar 19 20:25:37 <smickles>	bah, soebot had an overflow error
Mar 19 20:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	what's that ? too much soe ?
Mar 19 20:25:49 <smickles>	btc price is too damn high
Mar 19 20:26:18 <smickles>	it's a play on mpoebot
Mar 19 20:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	oh
Mar 19 20:28:45 <BitHub>	wow i've made enough coins to quit and go make a movie
Mar 19 20:29:02 <BitHub>	what a proud moment i thought it was going to take me all year
Mar 19 20:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Mar 19 20:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	wd
Mar 19 20:29:39 <BitHub>	:) its tripped out, owe a huge thanks to bitcoin
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Mar 19 20:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	amazingrando got scammer tag ?
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Mar 19 20:33:58 <Bowjob>	wasnt he gonna list her
Mar 19 20:33:59 <Bowjob>	e
Mar 19 20:36:15 <pigeons>	http://amazonbitcoins.com/gone
Mar 19 20:37:25 <pigeons>	operators say they are suprised amazon let them get away with using their log and name this long
Mar 19 20:37:42 <pigeons>	amazonlitecoins.com to open next week
Mar 19 20:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 19 20:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	"We had a good run, and we can't thank our customers enough for their overwhelming adoption and support. It truly is hard to believe that less than a month after launching we have hundreds of users and have processed thousands of dollars per day."
Mar 19 20:38:57 <mircea_popescu>	mmmkay.
Mar 19 20:40:46 <pizzaman1337>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 19 20:40:48 <gribble>	55.60
Mar 19 20:43:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 19 20:43:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.40000, Best ask: 59.75998, Bid-ask spread: 0.35998, Last trade: 59.77000, 24 hour volume: 105293.89337341, 24 hour low: 50.22010, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 55.89276
Mar 19 20:43:13 <pizzaman1337>	how often does the mpex bot recalc it's market options offerings prices?
Mar 19 20:43:19 <pizzaman1337>	its*
Mar 19 20:44:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.16002 = 1.1201 BTC [-]
Mar 19 20:44:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.16 = 0.32 BTC [-]
Mar 19 20:44:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]
Mar 19 20:45:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33318 = 0.9995 BTC [-]
Mar 19 20:45:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC
Mar 19 20:46:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P570T] 1 @ 0.09636292 BTC
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Mar 19 20:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	ahhh 60 looks so pretty.
Mar 19 20:50:46 <BitHub>	not when you got to make another buy tomorrow :P
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Mar 19 20:52:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16002 BTC [+]
Mar 19 20:52:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16002 BTC [+]
Mar 19 20:54:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P570T] 6 @ 0.0963272 = 0.578 BTC [-]
Mar 19 20:58:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000712 = 0.0854 BTC [+]
Mar 19 21:03:02 <[\\\]>	hello
Mar 19 21:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	hai
Mar 19 21:03:16 <dub>	yes hello
Mar 19 21:03:25 <[\\\]>	;;seen dust
Mar 19 21:03:26 <gribble>	I have not seen dust.
Mar 19 21:03:47 <[\\\]>	;;seen dub
Mar 19 21:03:47 <gribble>	dub was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 31 seconds ago: <dub> yes hello
Mar 19 21:03:51 <[\\\]>	yay
Mar 19 21:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	is not dug
Mar 19 21:04:25 <[\\\]>	dust doesn't like me
Mar 19 21:04:30 <[\\\]>	then again, many people don't
Mar 19 21:04:33 <[\\\]>	I'm a douche.
Mar 19 21:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3724 @ 0.00073645 = 2.7425 BTC [+]
Mar 19 21:05:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2246 @ 0.00073744 = 1.6563 BTC [+]
Mar 19 21:05:44 <mircea_popescu>	slushe
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Mar 19 21:07:40 <[\\\]>	;;seen jurov
Mar 19 21:07:41 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <jurov> that's VERY rogue taxidermy
Mar 19 21:09:12 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: are you an sdice shareholder?
Mar 19 21:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 19 21:11:06 <tiberiusiv>	adding at these levels?
Mar 19 21:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4032 @ 0.00072738 = 2.9328 BTC [-]
Mar 19 21:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	well that i can't say.
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Mar 19 21:12:32 <tiberiusiv>	what did sdice ipo at?
Mar 19 21:12:38 <tiberiusiv>	last year
Mar 19 21:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	(b)Based on their knowledge of the company and its assets, as well as on evaluation of market demand, current profitability and projected evolution, the representatives of SatoshiDice have elected to offer in this IPO a total of 10`000`000 (ten million) shares, as follows : one block of 2`000`000 (two million) shares at a price of 0.0032 BTC each ; one block of 5`000`000 (five million) shares at a price of 0.0034 BTC e
Mar 19 21:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	ach ; one block of 3`000`000 (three million) shares at a price of 0.0037 BTC each.
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Mar 19 21:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/314/bitcointalk-org-treasurer-to-be-scammer-tagged/
Mar 19 21:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	this is an interesting one...
Mar 19 21:26:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16001 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 21:32:18 <BitHub>	lulz
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Mar 19 21:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136370145631.jpg prolly the best swimsuit ever.
Mar 19 21:36:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 58 @ 0.00462 = 0.268 BTC [-]
Mar 19 21:36:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 33 @ 0.00462 = 0.1525 BTC [-]
Mar 19 21:36:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 909 @ 0.00455 = 4.136 BTC [-]
Mar 19 21:41:20 <[\\\]>	I'm not diggin the thighs
Mar 19 21:41:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 21:41:35 <[\\\]>	they look like they were photoshopped on
Mar 19 21:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	indeed they don't look too azn do they
Mar 19 21:42:36 <[\\\]>	racist
Mar 19 21:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	esp seeing how her thick butt is about 20x the thickness of her wrist
Mar 19 21:43:07 <[\\\]>	right where her hand touches, its weird there
Mar 19 21:43:32 <[\\\]>	but I suppose its possible
Mar 19 21:43:32 <[\\\]>	meh
Mar 19 21:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	a well. so our dreams are shatter't on the cold shores of jagged reality
Mar 19 21:44:24 <[\\\]>	there's several billion of them, so waht if 1 doesn't match?
Mar 19 21:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	ikr?
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Mar 19 21:47:12 <[\\\]>	so what's the mpex fee up to now?
Mar 19 21:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	30
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Mar 19 21:47:43 <[\\\]>	;;calc 30 * [ticker --last]
Mar 19 21:47:44 <gribble>	1790.6982
Mar 19 21:47:45 <[\\\]>	not bad
Mar 19 21:48:02 <[\\\]>	it costs more for exchange membership than many people's mortgage
Mar 19 21:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	not to mention it generated 100's of k's worth of value or so for the people who didn't procrastinate/think themselves better/entitled/whatever.
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Mar 19 21:49:06 <[\\\]>	seperate the smart from the dumb
Mar 19 21:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	you and me baby are nothing but mammals so let's do it the bitcoin way!
Mar 19 21:50:24 <BitHub>	lets do it like they do it in the bitcoin-assets channel
Mar 19 21:50:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k
Mar 19 21:51:10 <BitHub>	nice, reminds me me fingerbanging girls at 15
Mar 19 21:51:38 <BitHub>	need some beastie boys
Mar 19 21:53:14 <kakobrekla>	intergalactic
Mar 19 21:53:52 <kakobrekla>	planetary
Mar 19 21:53:57 <kakobrekla>	intergalactic
Mar 19 21:54:06 *	mircea_popescu ???
Mar 19 21:54:10 <kakobrekla>	nvm.
Mar 19 21:54:12 <[\\\]>	lol
Mar 19 21:54:15 <smickles>	lol
Mar 19 21:54:25 <[\\\]>	culture fail
Mar 19 21:55:43 <BitHub>	lul kako
Mar 19 21:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	check out this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154258.msg1643783#msg1643783
Mar 19 21:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	7500 words expended to clearly show he doesn't understand what exactly shareholders are, how they're different from founders and wtf exactly finance is
Mar 19 21:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	for the past two years i've been drowning in well meaning idiocy. it's a fate worse than death.
Mar 19 21:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	i blame the education system.
Mar 19 21:58:08 <mircea_popescu>	and also i blame the equalitarian atmosphere in the english speaking world. there's no worse form of child abuse than telling them they're equal to anyone.
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Mar 19 21:59:11 <BitHub>	pants
Mar 19 22:01:21 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 19 22:01:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.66661, Best ask: 59.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23339, Last trade: 59.90000, 24 hour volume: 103877.10338041, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.15735
Mar 19 22:01:39 <[\\\]>	I'm pretty certain Britain doesn't tell everyone they're equal to anyone
Mar 19 22:01:43 <[\\\]>	and they're fucking English
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Mar 19 22:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	show me a one case past 15 years where a kid was told "you can't do what this other kid does because he is better than you"
Mar 19 22:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	in any sort of institutional setting.
Mar 19 22:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	i'd even settle for "you can't X because you suck"
Mar 19 22:02:34 <[\\\]>	oh right, because I'm in the UK school system
Mar 19 22:02:40 <[\\\]>	jesus christ, they still have nobility
Mar 19 22:02:43 <[\\\]>	that right there tells them
Mar 19 22:02:47 <[\\\]>	STFU already
Mar 19 22:02:47 <mircea_popescu>	no it doesn't.
Mar 19 22:02:48 <[\\\]>	you're done.
Mar 19 22:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 19 22:03:06 <mircea_popescu>	not like they have to go on their knees when nobility enters the room
Mar 19 22:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	or at least motherfucking stand up, which is really the absolute fucking minimum.
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Mar 19 22:05:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7110 @ 0.00073526 = 5.2277 BTC [+]
Mar 19 22:05:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4732 @ 0.00072738 = 3.442 BTC [-]
Mar 19 22:05:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00071402 = 4.0342 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 22:06:35 <smickles>	< [\\\]> jesus christ, they still have nobility << they still have nobility who exercise royal prerogitive
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Mar 19 22:07:53 <smickles>	ya know, from what i understand about the retained prerogitive, the queen could prevent the prime minister of canada from taking office after being elected
Mar 19 22:08:38 <mircea_popescu>	yeeeea
Mar 19 22:08:50 <dub>	man
Mar 19 22:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	problem is, it;'s never used, so it just serves as perverse strengthening of the equalitarian delusion.
Mar 19 22:09:10 <smickles>	has to do with the viceroy or something
Mar 19 22:09:15 <dub>	every times smickles trots out some alex jonesism I die a little
Mar 19 22:09:58 <smickles>	lol, dub it's not like i think she could actually exercise that power
Mar 19 22:10:21 <dub>	you will find any number of antiquated bylaws in every legal system, shit thats not worth legistlating over
Mar 19 22:10:38 <dub>	for example its required for hoteliers to provide horse parking in the capital of my country
Mar 19 22:10:55 <smickles>	but they apparently do still exercise the power by quashing laws in england which would deprive them of land and such
Mar 19 22:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1806 @ 0.00070749 = 1.2777 BTC [-]
Mar 19 22:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it's not about some obscure exercise of power.
Mar 19 22:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	it's about people being forcibly confronted with proof of their inferiority in a social setting,
Mar 19 22:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	as a proxy for their actual inferiority in reality.
Mar 19 22:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	helps them learn about what they can and can do and so should or shouldn't attempt.
Mar 19 22:12:14 <smickles>	heh, yeah, different topic entirely
Mar 19 22:12:57 <dub>	'the queen runs canada' is a fairly common complaint in the extreme libertard circles is all im saying
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Mar 19 22:14:36 <smickles>	i've hardly any idea who runs canada.
Mar 19 22:14:50 <dub>	moosecock runs canada
Mar 19 22:15:09 <smickles>	moosecock it is then. cheers to moosecock
Mar 19 22:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	can't it be something a little more palatable ?
Mar 19 22:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	what's a girl to do with moosecock
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Mar 19 22:17:12 <dub>	like other british colonies they have a prime minister who fronts one of several political parties, advised by a caucus/cabinet of senior members and the lowly back benchers
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Mar 19 22:17:15 <bfdshresjhreshj>	█▓▒10 Bitcoin=$279.99 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$89.99 5 Bitcoin=$199.99 20 Bitcoin=$489.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$699.99 40 Bitcoin=$899.99 50 Bitcoin=$1099.99 http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
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Mar 19 22:17:16 <bfdshresjhreshj>	█▓▒10 Bitcoin=$279.99 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$89.99 5 Bitcoin=$199.99 20 Bitcoin=$489.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$699.99 40 Bitcoin=$899.99 50 Bitcoin=$1099.99 http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Mar 19 22:17:16 <bfdshresjhreshj>	█▓▒10 Bitcoin=$279.99 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$89.99 5 Bitcoin=$199.99 20 Bitcoin=$489.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$699.99 40 Bitcoin=$899.99 50 Bitcoin=$1099.99 http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Mar 19 22:17:16 <bfdshresjhreshj>	█▓▒10 Bitcoin=$279.99 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$89.99 5 Bitcoin=$199.99 20 Bitcoin=$489.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$699.99 40 Bitcoin=$899.99 50 Bitcoin=$1099.99 http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
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Mar 19 22:17:19 <bfdshresjhreshj>	█▓▒10 Bitcoin=$279.99 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$89.99 5 Bitcoin=$199.99 20 Bitcoin=$489.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$699.99 40 Bitcoin=$899.99 50 Bitcoin=$1099.99 http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Mar 19 22:17:20 <bfdshresjhreshj>	█▓▒10 Bitcoin=$279.99 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$89.99 5 Bitcoin=$199.99 20 Bitcoin=$489.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$699.99 40 Bitcoin=$899.99 50 Bitcoin=$1099.99 http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Mar 19 22:17:20 <bfdshresjhreshj>	█▓▒10 Bitcoin=$279.99 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$89.99 5 Bitcoin=$199.99 20 Bitcoin=$489.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$699.99 40 Bitcoin=$899.99 50 Bitcoin=$1099.99 http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
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Mar 19 22:17:21 <bfdshresjhreshj>	█▓▒10 Bitcoin=$279.99 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$89.99 5 Bitcoin=$199.99 20 Bitcoin=$489.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$699.99 40 Bitcoin=$899.99 50 Bitcoin=$1099.99 http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Mar 19 22:17:40 <dub>	effective marketing campain you have there
Mar 19 22:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck.
Mar 19 22:17:53 *	assbot sets ban on *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.27.255.69.105
Mar 19 22:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla can you set assbot to autoban on any mention of bitswing.com for an hour ?
Mar 19 22:19:01 <dub>	bitswing sounds like some kind of meatspin variant
Mar 19 22:19:10 <kakobrekla>	in theory i could but you would be banned now
Mar 19 22:19:27 <mircea_popescu>	you know what's gonna happen, tomorrow diff ip
Mar 19 22:20:06 <Bugpowder>	its BitsWing
Mar 19 22:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	retarded kid, didn't even come up with a random name, just mashed kbd
Mar 19 22:20:18 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 19 22:20:32 <Bugpowder>	I need these diff futures to close so I can buy this S.DICE
Mar 19 22:20:37 <Bugpowder>	.004
Mar 19 22:20:38 <Bugpowder>	really?
Mar 19 22:20:46 <Bugpowder>	all confidence is lost?
Mar 19 22:20:54 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 19 22:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00383838 / 0.00434507 / 0.0051 (63488 shares, 275.86 BTC), 7D: 0.00383838 / 0.00476551 / 0.00599987 (134645 shares, 641.65 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00604938 / 0.0069 (2352566 shares, 14,231.58 BTC)
Mar 19 22:21:04 <mircea_popescu>	275 btc's worth of confidence
Mar 19 22:21:08 <Bugpowder>	!last m. s.dice
Mar 19 22:21:08 <assbot>	I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
Mar 19 22:21:15 <Bugpowder>	!last m s.dice
Mar 19 22:21:15 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00383838 BTC [-]
Mar 19 22:21:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 830 @ 0.00455 = 3.7765 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 22:22:04 <kakobrekla>	!rules Enky_Away
Mar 19 22:22:22 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 19 22:22:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.80001, Best ask: 59.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 59.84000, 24 hour volume: 105452.24769737, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.25821
Mar 19 22:22:32 <Bugpowder>	CM shows 60.11
Mar 19 22:22:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 190 @ 0.004231 = 0.8039 BTC [-]
Mar 19 22:23:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 22:23:21 <gribble>	0.121863 seconds
Mar 19 22:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/282-page-handbook-details-recommended-rules-of-cyberwar-engagement/
Mar 19 22:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	funny. i wonder if the roman empire had rules about barbarian shaving practices right before odoacer
Mar 19 22:26:01 <Bugpowder>	$60.59
Mar 19 22:27:05 <mircea_popescu>	in january it was 15
Mar 19 22:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	400% in 2 months
Mar 19 22:28:24 <bgupta>	Cyprus rally?
Mar 19 22:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	probably a large part of it
Mar 19 22:28:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny, cyprus govt destroyed 5bn euro worth of suckers fiat,
Mar 19 22:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	created ~300 mn usd worth of bitcoin wealth.
Mar 19 22:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	ty eu. keep on with your policies, a 4-5% conversion engine is great for bitcoin.
Mar 19 22:29:27 *	bgupta sighs… dystopian future here we come.
Mar 19 22:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	by the time you're all done we'll be quite okay.
Mar 19 22:31:03 <bgupta>	Or, Utopia if you are an anarcho-capitolist.
Mar 19 22:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2828 @ 0.00073744 = 2.0855 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 22:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	actually bgupta ... any sort of future that includes the state is science fiction at this point.
Mar 19 22:33:51 <bgupta>	perhaps a bit hyperbolic? but I get your gist.
Mar 19 22:34:18 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu hyperbolic? nevar
Mar 19 22:34:19 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think so. without a cheap and effective way to maintain informational supremacy and without control of wealth transfer there simply can't be a state.
Mar 19 22:34:22 <ThickAsThieves>	https://support.mtgox.com/entries/21659340--Outage-59372-Bitcoin-Deposit-Delay dunno if this is old news tro you guys
Mar 19 22:34:32 <pigeons>	um it is old
Mar 19 22:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	the original innovation that even allowed the state (ie, bureaucracy) has been meanwhile erroded by the internet.
Mar 19 22:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	by now with bitcoins... there's really nothing left.
Mar 19 22:35:28 <bgupta>	You are assuming that certain states wouldn't just shut down the public telco grid to survive.
Mar 19 22:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	no, i'm not assuming that.
Mar 19 22:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is like saying "miners will be shutting out s.dice"
Mar 19 22:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's not their option to do this.
Mar 19 22:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	if they do, they just cease being states at all.
Mar 19 22:36:18 <mircea_popescu>	unless, of course, you imagine the amish are some sort of separatist state within the us.
Mar 19 22:36:26 <pigeons>	tx over sneakernet
Mar 19 22:36:53 <benkay>	has cyprus gone through with the taxation yet?
Mar 19 22:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Mar 19 22:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	they've changed the proposed law 3 times so far, still not a law.
Mar 19 22:37:11 <dub>	oh I saw a good quote in -dev for you MP
Mar 19 22:37:22 <benkay>	what are likely outcomes if the vote in parliament fails?
Mar 19 22:37:32 <mircea_popescu>	benkay permanent banking vacation in cyprus.
Mar 19 22:37:49 <bgupta>	Well, I am thinking that it could swing to the other direction of totalatarianism.. in the US we are seeing a steady erosion of our freedoms, as the surveillance state becomes a reality.
Mar 19 22:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta only for the people who elect to stay there.
Mar 19 22:38:15 <benkay>	cuz if they reopen instant run
Mar 19 22:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	most everyone of any import has left already however.
Mar 19 22:38:29 <dub>	[19:11] <gavinandresen> sure.  We have to embrace transaction volume, more people == more success == more transactions
Mar 19 22:38:31 <benkay>	not if you're friends with your local politicians, bgupta
Mar 19 22:38:43 <mircea_popescu>	dub good quote.
Mar 19 22:38:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00482 = 0.482 BTC [+]
Mar 19 22:39:01 <benkay>	and can purchase their friendship
Mar 19 22:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	benkay even so it's safer to purchase it from a distance.
Mar 19 22:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	much like putin's oligarchs.
Mar 19 22:39:43 <bgupta>	the reality is most citizens aren't technically adept to use privacy tools properly.. nor don't care, and it will be hard for those that aren't superrich to uproot their families on a (to most citizens) alarmist future view.
Mar 19 22:40:00 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta why do the inept and poor matter in this discussion ?
Mar 19 22:40:01 <benkay>	good lord of course they're not
Mar 19 22:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	neither freedom nor politics are for them.
Mar 19 22:40:41 <Bugpowder>	[22:29] <mircea_popescu> created ~300 mn usd worth of bitcoin wealth.     SO FAR.  This isn't over yet.
Mar 19 22:40:50 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: worry about the intelligent poor.
Mar 19 22:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder also true. was just doing a sort of "minimal eval"
Mar 19 22:41:06 <dub>	bgupta: the real reality is you've been a surveillance state since the '90s
Mar 19 22:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform are these provably intelligent or just assumedly intelligent ?
Mar 19 22:41:19 <dub>	you're just starting to wake up
Mar 19 22:41:24 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 50
Mar 19 22:41:24 <gribble>	There are currently 19157.386 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 1043997.85644 USD in total. | Data vintage: 52.3699 seconds
Mar 19 22:41:30 <bgupta>	dub: Yeah: Unofficially, now they are pushing really hard to make it official.. :(
Mar 19 22:41:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.12202 BTC [-]
Mar 19 22:41:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.12202 BTC [-]
Mar 19 22:42:02 <bgupta>	at least with it unofficial they had to think twice about using info they weren't supposed to have
Mar 19 22:42:05 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: bioweapons. doesn't take a world-class brain.
Mar 19 22:42:32 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: and it only takes one.
Mar 19 22:42:32 <Bugpowder>	The truth is is that we live in an surveliannce state, BUT the watchers are pretty lazy, like most humans.
Mar 19 22:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure i follow.
Mar 19 22:42:55 <Bugpowder>	bioweapons?
Mar 19 22:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you ever saw my rural/urban graph ?
Mar 19 22:43:02 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: intelligent poor could trash civilization permanently if they wanted to.
Mar 19 22:43:02 <Bugpowder>	R U talking GMO foods?
Mar 19 22:43:11 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: nope
Mar 19 22:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform okay. i guess they might have to then.
Mar 19 22:43:23 <Bugpowder>	does anyone here think GMO is bad?
Mar 19 22:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/
Mar 19 22:43:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i think it's potentially bad.
Mar 19 22:44:06 <asciilifeform>	Bugpowder: the mainstream anti-GMO hysteria is a distraction from real issues re: control of food supplies.
Mar 19 22:44:48 <vampireb>	i dont have strong feelings about GMO, but everyone is NY is crazy about "organics" food..
Mar 19 22:44:53 <vampireb>	though "organics" usually means crap
Mar 19 22:45:10 <Bowjob>	whoa canadian bitcoins selling for $70 per coin?
Mar 19 22:45:14 <asciilifeform>	vampireb: signalling.
Mar 19 22:45:15 <vampireb>	;;ticker
Mar 19 22:45:15 <mircea_popescu>	the jewish deli still the best way to get edible food in ny
Mar 19 22:45:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 60.29000, Best ask: 60.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 60.29000, 24 hour volume: 105617.40285754, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.36720
Mar 19 22:45:32 <vampireb>	!ticker mpex s.dice
Mar 19 22:45:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00383838 / 0.00434507 / 0.0051 (63488 shares, 275.86 BTC), 7D: 0.00383838 / 0.00476551 / 0.00599987 (134645 shares, 641.65 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00604938 / 0.0069 (2352566 shares, 14,231.58 BTC)
Mar 19 22:46:31 <vampireb>	men russian stores are fine here, though these are jewish russian anyway
Mar 19 22:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 19 22:46:53 <Bugpowder>	This is a good summary of GMO from some who really understands the issues.   http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1135
Mar 19 22:47:51 <asciilifeform>	Bugpowder: the only actual problem with GMO products is the "terminator seed," which gives American patent trolls total control over food supplies.
Mar 19 22:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	patent trolls. good way to put it.
Mar 19 22:48:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8593 BTC [-]
Mar 19 22:48:54 <vampireb>	i am quiet sure that humans adapted to food too in the last 100 years... well look at all these fatties in US
Mar 19 22:49:10 <vampireb>	(reminds myself to go to gym tomorrow)
Mar 19 22:49:14 <asciilifeform>	My guess is that much of the anti-GMO hysteria is funded or at least encouraged by the GMO vendors, specifically to distract from this.
Mar 19 22:50:21 <Bugpowder>	I thought patent trolls are people that sue that are not acutally using the patent, NPEs for example.
Mar 19 22:50:27 <asciilifeform>	When nearly the entire opposition to something consists of idiot "back to nature" crackpots, a reasonable person starts to see it as a great idea.
Mar 19 22:51:03 <asciilifeform>	Bugpowder: that would be like saying that a fairytale "Bridge Troll" must never actually use his bridge.
Mar 19 22:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	ha. good point.
Mar 19 22:51:23 <asciilifeform>	Bugpowder: if your entire revenue stream depends on patents, you're a patent troll.
Mar 19 22:52:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.8593 = 6.0151 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 22:52:57 <benkay>	someone's going to get insanely wealthy using genomics to breed better corn
Mar 19 22:53:13 <Bugpowder>	why is a patent troll bad?   They monetize intellectual property so small inventors can collect on people that rip them off, with reduced risk.
Mar 19 22:53:17 <benkay>	instead of trying to engineer nature
Mar 19 22:53:19 <asciilifeform>	benkay: for some value of "better" this already happened.
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Mar 19 22:53:50 <asciilifeform>	Bugpowder: have you ever been a small inventor and actually tried to prosecute a ripoff of your idea?
Mar 19 22:53:53 <Bugpowder>	benkay, what is the difference between "genomics" and trying to "engineer nature"
Mar 19 22:54:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8594 = 8.594 BTC [+]
Mar 19 22:54:15 <Bugpowder>	asciilifeform: I have some knowledge of the fields in which I invite debate.
Mar 19 22:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i fail to see a difference between patent trolls and any other ip rights trolls.
Mar 19 22:54:45 <asciilifeform>	Bugpowder: if you have the funds to prosecute a patent lawsuit in any jurisdiction that matters, you are by definition not a "small inventor."
Mar 19 22:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	if you think riaa is making artitsts be paid you're perhaps going on wishful thinking
Mar 19 22:55:24 <Bugpowder>	There are plenty of plaintiff side contingency firms that will take your patent case if you have a valid claim and a decent damages model.
Mar 19 22:55:35 <Bugpowder>	FOR FREE
Mar 19 22:55:42 <benkay>	inorite?
Mar 19 22:55:42 <benkay>	actual history of crop yield improvement.
Mar 19 22:55:42 <benkay>	until recently, rooted in breeding instead of engineering.
Mar 19 22:55:42 <benkay>	and whoopee congratulations, we're so efficient in america that we got some *great* results by doing some weird stuff and then grew that everywhere. instant monoculture
Mar 19 22:56:11 <asciilifeform>	Bugpowder: patent trials are routinely won and lost on technicalities. And your opponent can drag the trial onwards into infinity, until you or the party representing you runs out of cash.
Mar 19 22:56:34 <Bugpowder>	benkay, the combination of selective breeding with targeted mutagenesis is MUCH more effective at increasing yield, quality AND adapting to pests.
Mar 19 22:56:35 <asciilifeform>	At least in the U.S., it is a straightforward contest of bank accounts.
Mar 19 22:56:46 <smickles>	asciilifeform: sounds like you are talking about any court case
Mar 19 22:57:03 <Bugpowder>	asciilifeform: That is false in a contingency case.
Mar 19 22:57:15 <Bugpowder>	Let me suggest an alternative formulation of patent troll.
Mar 19 22:58:11 <pigeons>	patent troll = anyone who files afucking patent
Mar 19 22:58:19 <benkay>	horrible business
Mar 19 22:58:19 <benkay>	avoid at all costs
Mar 19 22:58:35 <Bugpowder>	A patent troll is someone who sues a large number of possibly infringing defendents, many small businesses, who lack the funds to defend themselves, and thus seek to shake down these defendents for a settlement that is slightly less than the cost of fighting it thru dismissal
Mar 19 22:58:43 <pigeons>	trademark abuse i think should be prosecuted under fraud and is a valid form of ip
Mar 19 22:58:49 <asciilifeform>	This was perhaps the original patent troll: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Licensed_Automobile_Manufacturers
Mar 19 22:58:49 <pigeons>	but patent have never been ethical
Mar 19 22:58:51 <benkay>	bugpowder ooh with mutagenesis awesome i need sauce tho
Mar 19 22:59:27 <bgupta>	patent is fine, except where it was extended in term, and applied to sfotware and business methods.
Mar 19 22:59:31 <pigeons>	no
Mar 19 22:59:33 <asciilifeform>	If you use patents to keep a product off the market (or to keep it a luxury good whereas civilization might otherwise make it a mass good) you are a patent troll.
Mar 19 22:59:35 <Bugpowder>	I would say Apple suing Samsung, or Carnegie Mellon suing Marvell is not a patent troll.
Mar 19 22:59:45 <benkay>	and must run now so pm plz bugpowder?
Mar 19 22:59:47 <pigeons>	i would say apple existing is a troll
Mar 19 23:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	a patent troll is any entity which seeks to enrich itself by denominating and thus proposing to have captured anything which exists outside of and independent of their efforts.
Mar 19 23:00:02 <BitHub>	apple is one of life's trolls
Mar 19 23:00:09 <Bugpowder>	bgupta: The Bilski ruling has invalidated most software only patents
Mar 19 23:00:17 <dub>	apple is a user troll
Mar 19 23:00:22 <BitHub>	btw i'm still buying patents in exchange for btc
Mar 19 23:00:28 <asciilifeform>	pigeons: if all Apple patents were voided tomorrow, would there be a flood of Apple-quality products from other vendors?
Mar 19 23:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	in this reading any attempt to patent anything to do with gmo is patent trolling.
Mar 19 23:00:29 <BitHub>	if anyone has any good cheap ones
Mar 19 23:00:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8596 = 2.5788 BTC [+]
Mar 19 23:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	you may patent the process, you may not patent the result, inasmuch as the result is a plant
Mar 19 23:00:42 <Bugpowder>	asciilifeform: NOPE
Mar 19 23:00:46 <pigeons>	god i hope we never have apple "quality" products from anyone
Mar 19 23:00:49 <bgupta>	When was that? I thought that it was still up in the air?
Mar 19 23:00:59 <Bugpowder>	Bilski was over a year ago
Mar 19 23:01:03 <pigeons>	any attempt to use force to control ideas is trolling
Mar 19 23:01:12 <asciilifeform>	pigeons: if you have no love for Apple-style products, why are their patents a problem for you?
Mar 19 23:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	as a more general formulation, yes pigeons
Mar 19 23:01:21 <Bugpowder>	Ruling is that the software must interact with a physical machine
Mar 19 23:01:28 <pigeons>	all patents are a problem all copyrights for all humans
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Mar 19 23:01:36 <Bugpowder>	provides an additional test for KO software only claims
Mar 19 23:01:41 <bgupta>	wait that didn't have blanket applicability the supreme court specifically made a very narrow ruling deferring the question of patentability for a future court/case
Mar 19 23:01:42 <pigeons>	tradmarks can stay
Mar 19 23:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	trademarks must stay even.
Mar 19 23:02:00 <pigeons>	yeah
Mar 19 23:02:09 <bgupta>	yes..
Mar 19 23:02:10 <Bugpowder>	I think it is being read fairly broadly by the community
Mar 19 23:02:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8596 = 1.7192 BTC [+]
Mar 19 23:02:40 <Bugpowder>	certainly it is influencing what cases are now being brought and what are discarded based on 'bilski vulnerability'
Mar 19 23:02:47 <bgupta>	It however could have been in worse.. and they could have affirmed the validity of sfotware patents
Mar 19 23:02:49 <asciilifeform>	trademarks are appealing if you think that competitors could actually fool chumps into thinking they are buying your product.
Mar 19 23:03:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8596 BTC [+]
Mar 19 23:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform trademarks are really just a way to prevent idiots from abusing "some" names.
Mar 19 23:03:18 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: if someone were to open a fake MPEx, would anyone be fooled? Why do you need trademarks enforced by governments?
Mar 19 23:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	basically, marketing consists on trying to extract value from a word.
Mar 19 23:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	to the detriment of everyone else. it's a society-wide language-wide externality.
Mar 19 23:03:38 <pigeons>	if you pass yourself off as something you're not, that is fraud to me
Mar 19 23:03:43 <mircea_popescu>	the association of shitproduct with "superior" damages the word superior
Mar 19 23:03:49 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: why not extract it from a PGP public key instead? can't be faked, and doesn't need armed thugs to enforce.
Mar 19 23:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	then when i say superior people misunderstand me, thus making me explain.
Mar 19 23:03:57 <mircea_popescu>	i should get paid by shitproduct for this.
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Mar 19 23:04:29 <pigeons>	asciilifeform: interesting
Mar 19 23:04:37 <mircea_popescu>	so in general, until marketing can be outlawed completely, trademarking is a bandaid
Mar 19 23:05:11 <pigeons>	no marketing? how will we bring bitcoin to wall street?
Mar 19 23:05:16 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 19 23:05:22 <asciilifeform>	you buy an XYZ pair of shoes. and it would come with a unique (verifiable through the net) RSA-signed message, with a serial number, stating that the unit is genuine and was sold in such-and-such a place on such a date.
Mar 19 23:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	seriously, if us libertards did smart shit (such as ban any advertising) instead of dumb shit (ban smoking)
Mar 19 23:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	we'd be looking at a muchly different us balance of trade
Mar 19 23:05:46 <pigeons>	and truth is me and many other will happily pay less for the "fake" shoes
Mar 19 23:06:05 <BitHub>	pirated shit is the best
Mar 19 23:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub just as long as you can identify what it is you're buying.
Mar 19 23:06:26 <BitHub>	many lv bags, wallets sunnies overseas
Mar 19 23:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	this is the underpinning of free markets : being able to evaluate what you buy and what you pay for it.
Mar 19 23:06:31 <BitHub>	over the years*
Mar 19 23:06:32 <asciilifeform>	pigeons: trademarks existing is the whole reason why we have chumps willing to pay for names instead of physical properties of the product.
Mar 19 23:06:42 <BitHub>	sold them back to my friends at like 500% profits
Mar 19 23:06:45 <BitHub>	they didn't care
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Mar 19 23:07:11 <pigeons>	im more worried about shipping sunglasses from china than ordering from silk road
Mar 19 23:07:38 <BitHub>	better off going there and buying up and bringing a years worth back
Mar 19 23:07:52 <asciilifeform>	the right way to deal with fraud is to make it instantly and physically detectable at the scene in as many cases as possible. and not post-facto enforcement.
Mar 19 23:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	this would be civilisational colonisation btw.
Mar 19 23:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	typical of the interaction between a more advanced and a less advanced civilisation
Mar 19 23:08:19 <BitHub>	those dr dre beat headphones
Mar 19 23:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	germans went to buy shit in rome etc.
Mar 19 23:08:22 <pigeons>	prime directive
Mar 19 23:08:35 <BitHub>	bought some for like 50$ sounds exactly the same, same chinese factory that's why
Mar 19 23:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform that's a point.
Mar 19 23:08:51 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the problem with that kind of interaction is that it uses a thermodynamic gradient, if you will. one that eventually levels out.
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Mar 19 23:09:12 <mircea_popescu>	china will eventualyl level out.
Mar 19 23:09:34 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the leveling can go in either direction, of course. unlike a heat engine.
Mar 19 23:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 19 23:09:55 <BitHub>	i just love going to china town and buying 10 ray ban sunnies for the price of 1
Mar 19 23:10:01 <BitHub>	and its the same quality
Mar 19 23:10:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.004231 = 0.4231 BTC [-]
Mar 19 23:10:17 <BitHub>	there is shit stuff of course you have to look out for but i only get the best pirated stuff
Mar 19 23:10:43 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the most likely conclusion, of course, is that the "hot" side grows lax and lazy from the cheap labour traded for goodies by the "cold" side. and the latter eventually sacks Rome.
Mar 19 23:10:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+]
Mar 19 23:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's how the civilisation engine has been working so far yes.
Mar 19 23:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	nothing wrong with it, either. i think it's perfect
Mar 19 23:11:29 <mircea_popescu>	and it's also why i laugh at silly notions such as midnightmagic's "progress"
Mar 19 23:12:36 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: its perfect right up to the moment some disgruntled grad school dropout in Mumbair turns loose the superplague.
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Mar 19 23:14:52 <asciilifeform>	fucking over the stupid and the impotent is safe. but who can be 100% sure that those are the only ones he is fucking over?
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Mar 19 23:18:29 <smickles>	sounds like the army of the 12 monkeys
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Mar 19 23:18:54 <asciilifeform>	smickles: not if you actually saw the film.
Mar 19 23:19:34 <smickles>	asciilifeform: huh?
Mar 19 23:19:40 <smickles>	i have seen the film
Mar 19 23:20:09 <smickles>	are you just being a pedant?
Mar 19 23:20:17 <asciilifeform>	smickles: I suppose I spoiled it already for everyone who hasn't.
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Mar 19 23:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform nobody. but that's not really the point, now is it ?
Mar 19 23:21:10 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 19 23:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	you can't suspend action until you're 100% sure.
Mar 19 23:21:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 60.28000, Best ask: 60.29000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 60.29000, 24 hour volume: 106776.94964017, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.47866
Mar 19 23:21:16 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 19 23:21:17 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 19 23:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	and that mumbairite can always drop by and say hi. especially if she has nice legs and a thick ass i'll be interested.
Mar 19 23:21:32 <Bowjob>	help me pick the color of my lambo
Mar 19 23:21:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob salmon.
Mar 19 23:21:59 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 19 23:22:06 <Bowjob>	salmon aventador
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Mar 19 23:22:33 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: great illustration right there, for why we're fucked:  the grad student will be thinking of his sister, whoring for food in the West, when he pulls the trigger.
Mar 19 23:22:38 <smickles>	!last m c310t
Mar 19 23:22:39 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Mar 19 23:22:47 <smickles>	!last c310t
Mar 19 23:22:47 <assbot>	The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy.
Mar 19 23:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform a well.
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Mar 19 23:23:08 <smickles>	$vwap o.btcusd.c310t
Mar 19 23:23:10 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.29789377 high: 0.31662031 low: 0.17554903 volume: 22028 btc: 6562.00388512
Mar 19 23:23:19 <smickles>	$depth o.btcusd.c310t
Mar 19 23:23:21 <mpexbot>	smickles: Bids: ['1000 @ 0.44954682']
Mar 19 23:23:22 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.54818967']
Mar 19 23:23:46 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 19 23:23:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 60.27999, Best ask: 60.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02001, Last trade: 60.27999, 24 hour volume: 106733.98262924, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.48785
Mar 19 23:24:05 <smickles>	-Uo
Mar 19 23:24:09 <smickles>	buh
Mar 19 23:24:20 *	smickles drools
Mar 19 23:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m p750t
Mar 19 23:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.35270204 / 0.49421702 / 0.50754217 (12009 shares, 5,935.05 BTC), 7D: 0.35270204 / 0.49421702 / 0.50754217 (12009 shares, 5,935.05 BTC), 30D: 0.35270204 / 0.89701544 / 1.53153505 (40792 shares, 36,591.05 BTC)
Mar 19 23:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	that thang...
Mar 19 23:25:18 <smickles>	;;calc 36591.05*[ticker --last]
Mar 19 23:25:20 <gribble>	2196384.36264
Mar 19 23:26:26 <smickles>	fuppin pitooty
Mar 19 23:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	piwho ?
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Mar 19 23:28:59 <smickles>	this price is making my brain melt
Mar 19 23:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 231 @ 0.22 = 50.82 BTC [+]
Mar 19 23:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	yeah srsly.
Mar 19 23:30:32 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: you should put up "oderint dum metuant" as a subtitle on your site.
Mar 19 23:30:57 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: if I'm not mistaken, it sums up your political angle nicely.
Mar 19 23:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 19 23:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	it's only my angle with regards to politics of reality.
Mar 19 23:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	people don't like capitalism ? fuck them.
Mar 19 23:31:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00074197 = 4.3034 BTC [+]
Mar 19 23:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	people wish to legislate against the fact that their wife will cheat ?
Mar 19 23:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	fuck them too.
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Mar 19 23:32:37 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I argue that, just as it is better to have a wife who doesn't cheat, it is also good to not be hated. especially if this can be accomplished at reasonable cost.
Mar 19 23:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	the feelings of others are their problem, not something that can ever carry a cost.
Mar 19 23:33:00 <mircea_popescu>	when i wish to pay whores i'll say.
Mar 19 23:33:42 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: this sounds perfectly logical inside your head, until you're outnumbered and outgunned, and down on your knees - ready to please?
Mar 19 23:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	this, incidentally, is the path towards a harem of wives who aren't particularly inclined to cheat, among other goodies.
Mar 19 23:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	yea well, let's just say i'm a lucky sort. haven't been outgunned yet.
Mar 19 23:34:12 <BitHub>	being married, wives, gf's etc its for poor lonely people
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Mar 19 23:35:15 <kakobrekla>	its a hobby
Mar 19 23:35:26 <kakobrekla>	you gotta _do_ something
Mar 19 23:35:39 <kakobrekla>	or "do something"
Mar 19 23:36:08 <BitHub>	i'm just pass that point, cant do that normal shit
Mar 19 23:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	too busy with the fake raybans ?
Mar 19 23:38:08 <BitHub>	its just another overhead
Mar 19 23:38:33 <kakobrekla>	less chicks more space for raybans
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Mar 19 23:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	mo raybans mo powerbeams
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Mar 19 23:39:53 <BitHub>	less tang more ray
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Mar 19 23:41:26 <BitHub>	anyway, i've just noticed its poor, lonely people who are really desperate for female companionship
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Mar 19 23:41:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 4 @ 0.26082263 = 1.0433 BTC [+]
Mar 19 23:42:18 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: "The only thing you cannot do with a bayonet is sit on it." (Talleyrand)
Mar 19 23:42:31 <Chaang-Noi>	mp, starting to think those options were not overpriced :)
Mar 19 23:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform hehe one of the cleverer frenchmen.
Mar 19 23:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi :p
Mar 19 23:43:10 <mircea_popescu>	if only we knew yesterday what the evening of today spells out
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Mar 19 23:43:27 <Chaang-Noi>	still, 29 days anything can happen
Mar 19 23:43:57 <staco>	;;seen smickles
Mar 19 23:43:57 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 minutes and 57 seconds ago: <smickles> this price is making my brain melt
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Mar 19 23:44:38 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer is level, lc is level and btc way up, going to be a good day:)
Mar 19 23:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	T options expire on the 29th
Mar 19 23:45:33 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Mar 19 23:45:55 <Chaang-Noi>	64 looks like it might take a while
Mar 19 23:45:59 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 64
Mar 19 23:46:05 <gribble>	There are currently 15921.487 bitcoins offered at or under 64.0 USD, worth 1002943.0276 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Mar 19 23:46:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00496 BTC [+]
Mar 19 23:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, whoever sold those 12k 750T puts earlier is looking at something like 10k btc in profits atm
Mar 19 23:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	no that's not right
Mar 19 23:46:58 <staco>	sold the puts?
Mar 19 23:46:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000719 = 0.0036 BTC [+]
Mar 19 23:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc .17 * 12
Mar 19 23:47:02 <gribble>	2.04
Mar 19 23:47:05 <mircea_popescu>	like 2k
Mar 19 23:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	staco yea
Mar 19 23:47:21 <staco>	didn't the bot sell the puts?
Mar 19 23:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	i think the bot bought
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Mar 19 23:47:46 <staco>	i could be wrong, but I thought the bot sold them
Mar 19 23:47:46 <mircea_popescu>	$depth O.BTCUSD.P750T
Mar 19 23:47:48 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Bids: ['1000 @ 0.33576135']
Mar 19 23:47:49 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.43628681']
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Mar 19 23:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	i think at the time it was like .5 btc bid .8 btc ask
Mar 19 23:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	so it couldn't have been
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Mar 19 23:52:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1544 @ 0.00075702 = 1.1688 BTC [+]
Mar 19 23:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00075916 = 3.1505 BTC [+]
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Mar 19 23:55:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.827 BTC [-]
Mar 19 23:55:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.827 = 4.962 BTC [-]
Mar 19 23:56:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.826 = 5.782 BTC [-]
Mar 19 23:56:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.824 = 4.944 BTC [-]
Mar 19 23:56:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.823 = 2.469 BTC [-]
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Mar 19 23:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't this supposed to be 1 and etc ?
Mar 19 23:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc asicminer-pt
Mar 19 23:57:38 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.8221 / 0.85317 / 0.87 (167 shares, 142.5 BTC),  7D: 0.695 / 0.80182 / 0.9489 (1572 shares, 1260.5 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.74901 / 1 (3052 shares, 2286 BTC)
Mar 19 23:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	ic
Mar 19 23:59:38 <Chaang-Noi>	mp it traded at 1 but as it pays out dividends the value of the stock will go down, as the best dividends are the first ones
Mar 20 00:00:01 <pigeons>	the best dividends are the first ones?
Mar 20 00:00:05 <Chaang-Noi>	and these were bids being filled, still up over 800% :)
Mar 20 00:00:09 <pigeons>	i missed the context of that one
Mar 20 00:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	i hought the plan was to increase % iof total hash
Mar 20 00:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	they currently do what, 6th out of 30 ?
Mar 20 00:00:59 <pigeons>	oh asicminer
Mar 20 00:01:04 <Chaang-Noi>	the best dividends are or the highest dividends will odds are be the first .1 paid back, cuz it is only 1/1630000  not 1/400000
Mar 20 00:01:11 <pigeons>	yeah but 6th today is worth more than 30 th in 3 months
Mar 20 00:01:25 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons is right
Mar 20 00:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	extra zeroes detectedf
Mar 20 00:01:46 <Chaang-Noi>	but yes they say they will be at 60 th by the end of april, and they will expand after that
Mar 20 00:01:54 <Chaang-Noi>	over all goal is to stay at or above 105 of the network
Mar 20 00:02:11 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i did an extra 0   i need my coffee
Mar 20 00:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	so if they're at 10% of network they permanently pay the same divs
Mar 20 00:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	until block halves at least
Mar 20 00:02:44 <Chaang-Noi>	im not selling what i hold at these prices, however with btc being $60 im sure some people want to cash out
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Mar 20 00:03:03 <Chaang-Noi>	yes mp, but their goal is to average at 105 not always be at 10%
Mar 20 00:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	average is what we're talking about here tho
Mar 20 00:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	or you think they'll slowly lose out ?
Mar 20 00:03:46 <pigeons>	of course they will
Mar 20 00:03:48 <Chaang-Noi>	they ahve like 15% now, if they get their 60 th before bfl then they will ahve over 50%
Mar 20 00:03:55 <pigeons>	what bitcoin venture goes as planned
Mar 20 00:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons take mtgox for instance
Mar 20 00:04:04 <Chaang-Noi>	they wont stay just under 505 forever
Mar 20 00:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Mar 20 00:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=4days this looks remarkably healthy actually
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Mar 20 00:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully people understand the importance of deepbit and we see it about equal to btcguild
Mar 20 00:05:57 <kakobrekla>	deepbit is becoming obsolete
Mar 20 00:06:08 <pigeons>	eligius ftw
Mar 20 00:06:25 <pigeons>	especially now that fincen says mining = money transmission ;)
Mar 20 00:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla they're running 0.3 iirc
Mar 20 00:06:40 <kakobrekla>	huh?
Mar 20 00:06:43 <mircea_popescu>	i'd mine at a pool that specifically never upgrades.
Mar 20 00:06:45 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons it does ?
Mar 20 00:07:06 <pigeons>	to some lawyers
Mar 20 00:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	link or somfin' ?
Mar 20 00:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	wait! coinlab found a block during the past 4 days ?!
Mar 20 00:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	what with! maffs ?
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Mar 20 00:08:41 <pigeons>	its just stupid talk, it clearly says you have to exchange for other funds or your a user not a transmitter
Mar 20 00:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much
Mar 20 00:10:23 <Chaang-Noi>	like this really means much other than people who want to try to follow the law can
Mar 20 00:10:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.16002 = 1.4402 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 00:11:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.22048 BTC [+]
Mar 20 00:11:14 <pigeons>	it means coinlab needs to find a new bank
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Mar 20 00:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	silicon valley bank not quite ready for wall street ?
Mar 20 00:13:30 <pigeons>	we'll see
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Mar 20 00:15:02 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1645540#msg1645540
Mar 20 00:15:06 <kakobrekla>	jeez
Mar 20 00:15:21 <kakobrekla>	also wtf deadterra reality compas is off?
Mar 20 00:19:34 <mircea_popescu>	deadterra has an issue vouching for the wrong people.
Mar 20 00:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's like a disease.
Mar 20 00:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	"I've been an "IT" person all my life and I have no idea how I missed out on things like buying Google or Apple. Bitcoin seems to be my last chance. Any tips would be appreciated."
Mar 20 00:22:04 <mircea_popescu>	this is sweet.
Mar 20 00:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	he has no idea how he could have missed it. taking public calls, what might have been the cause ?
Mar 20 00:23:11 <pigeons>	i cant even follow that stuff
Mar 20 00:23:16 <pigeons>	maybe the beer
Mar 20 00:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news, at his local college there's all these fresh beauties looking for boyfriends all the time
Mar 20 00:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	how could he have missed that too ?!
Mar 20 00:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	life's hard but unfair!
Mar 20 00:24:36 <kakobrekla>	life is optional
Mar 20 00:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha!
Mar 20 00:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1641634#msg1641634
Mar 20 00:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	check out what she says and what usagi responds with
Mar 20 00:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	jesus this is better than stand-up
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Mar 20 00:26:23 <kakobrekla>	you are not a smart enoguh investor for his fan club
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Mar 20 00:27:08 <pigeons>	haha
Mar 20 00:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. i keep missing out on lots of hot btc deals because i am not smart enough
Mar 20 00:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	honestly, it sucks, but what can i do.
Mar 20 00:27:31 <pigeons>	your points are interesting in and of themselves and I'm sure once you get on track with how we operate you will understand it.
Mar 20 00:28:01 <mircea_popescu>	anyone wanna script usagi next meltdown ?
Mar 20 00:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.1401 *[ticker --last]
Mar 20 00:30:06 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 20 00:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 00:30:13 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 20 00:30:18 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 20 00:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 20 00:30:22 <kakobrekla>	its foxxed
Mar 20 00:30:29 <the-bucket-shop>	mtgox website is down
Mar 20 00:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	bejoysus
Mar 20 00:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	ANYWAY.
Mar 20 00:30:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.1401 *62
Mar 20 00:30:52 <gribble>	8.6862
Mar 20 00:30:58 <pigeons>	they are re-scanning the blockchain for 0.8
Mar 20 00:30:59 <pigeons>	seriously
Mar 20 00:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	so usagi is selling silver at 86.86 dollars an ounce ?!
Mar 20 00:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	can i short this thing anywhere ?
Mar 20 00:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2706 @ 0.00076296 = 2.0646 BTC [+]
Mar 20 00:31:42 <pigeons>	i think so
Mar 20 00:31:46 <kakobrekla>	usagi is like diablo, value destroyer
Mar 20 00:31:47 <pigeons>	click the options tab
Mar 20 00:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	eh he's on bitfunder
Mar 20 00:31:56 <pigeons>	on both bitfunder and btct
Mar 20 00:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	anyone wanna be my bitfunder broker ?
Mar 20 00:33:31 <toffoo>	why?
Mar 20 00:33:54 <toffoo>	they don't charge 30 btc to join
Mar 20 00:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Mar 20 00:34:11 <toffoo>	so why do you need a broker?  just join yourself
Mar 20 00:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 20 00:34:22 <mircea_popescu>	this is like... why am i not cutting my own hair.
Mar 20 00:34:37 <Namworld>	[00:27] <mircea_popescu> yeah. i keep missing out on lots of hot btc deals because i am not smart enough
Mar 20 00:34:37 <Namworld>	[00:27] <mircea_popescu> honestly, it sucks, but what can i do.
Mar 20 00:34:38 *	kakobrekla cuts his own hair
Mar 20 00:34:42 <Namworld>	quoting someone?
Mar 20 00:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld nope
Mar 20 00:34:55 <pigeons>	deadterra
Mar 20 00:34:59 <pigeons>	i assume
Mar 20 00:35:06 <Namworld>	ah. Just missing out then.
Mar 20 00:35:09 <kakobrekla>	but im like a ball of furr so no skill needed
Mar 20 00:35:11 <Namworld>	On a few things
Mar 20 00:35:14 <mircea_popescu>	no, i was just being honest. there's all these great deals offered all the time (especialyl in the lending section)
Mar 20 00:35:20 <mircea_popescu>	that i never end up being smart enough to take.
Mar 20 00:35:32 <Namworld>	Honestly, if you knew what would happen when, you’d triple your BTC weekly.
Mar 20 00:35:46 <Namworld>	Thing is, there’s almost just as many losing proposals
Mar 20 00:35:52 <Namworld>	even more
Mar 20 00:36:02 <mircea_popescu>	for any values of "almost as many" that approach infinity
Mar 20 00:36:05 <Chaang-Noi>	86 dollars an oz? and people buy it? oh lol
Mar 20 00:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi not rly.
Mar 20 00:36:27 <Namworld>	TU.SILVER? Yeah... pricey
Mar 20 00:36:41 <Chaang-Noi>	well then who cares, i can offer gold at $5000 :)
Mar 20 00:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	i suspect usagi has a future as a stand-up comedian pretending to be a btc finance guy
Mar 20 00:37:09 <mircea_popescu>	course... that's a tough racket, there's what, 5000 of them ?
Mar 20 00:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	what's silver spot these days anyway ? 40somthing ?
Mar 20 00:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/w3p5sxK.png << cancel transation
Mar 20 00:38:42 <kakobrekla>	28
Mar 20 00:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	wait wut ?
Mar 20 00:39:07 <kakobrekla>	28.8$ silver
Mar 20 00:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	uh.
Mar 20 00:39:15 <kakobrekla>	1612$ gold
Mar 20 00:39:35 <mircea_popescu>	so if anyone buys tu.silver that's an insta-70% haircut ?
Mar 20 00:40:10 <Namworld>	yes
Mar 20 00:40:11 <mircea_popescu>	cyprus should do this
Mar 20 00:40:46 <pigeons>	and usagi hopes silver goes down
Mar 20 00:40:56 <pigeons>	- /q bitcoin-goldRobo @silver
Mar 20 00:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	by the way : the deal just got got.
Mar 20 00:41:10 <pigeons>	bitcoin-goldRobo>  The #coinabul Silver Ticker: 0.482BTC per OZ of Silver, 0.015BTC per Gram of Silver and $28.92/OZ of Silver.
Mar 20 00:41:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/20/business/global/cyprus-rejects-tax-on-bank-deposits.html?_r=0
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Mar 20 00:41:56 <kakobrekla>	yeah saw earlier on bbc
Mar 20 00:42:01 <kakobrekla>	while nap.
Mar 20 00:42:34 <pigeons>	https://btct.co/security/SILVER#tab6 click details
Mar 20 00:43:05 <mircea_popescu>		YES 3 / 7 NO
Mar 20 00:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	so how is it trading ?!
Mar 20 00:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	"TU.SILVER is the largest precious metals fund in the community, and has more than 20 times the liquidity of all other precious metals funds combined."
Mar 20 00:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile
Mar 20 00:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	We have been in operation on BitFunder since January 2013. We have over 50oz. in sales and have redeemed more than 10oz of silver directly to customers.
Mar 20 00:44:23 <mircea_popescu>	so this community is not even able to pay for judas.
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Mar 20 00:45:22 <pigeons>	BTCTRADINGPT voted NO with comment: BTC-TRADING-PT shareholders voted to not approve: 528-0
Mar 20 00:45:52 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Mar 20 00:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	say what you will of people, sheep, stupidity, what have you... in this case at least i can find no flaw.
Mar 20 00:47:34 <pigeons>	haha i like how right in the contract on btct.co it says, "We have an exclusive arrangement with BitFunder to support BitFunder as a platform. We will not trade on any other exchange until August 2013."
Mar 20 00:47:56 <kakobrekla>	lolol
Mar 20 00:48:03 <Namworld>	mircea_popescu: sure, we are. Just no one investing in Usagi related stuff.
Mar 20 00:48:54 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons o.o
Mar 20 00:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto is he in breach ?
Mar 20 00:50:34 <pigeons>	should we chip in and pool the 0.1401 for lieftime access to his books?
Mar 20 00:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons you have an account and the interest to bother ?
Mar 20 00:51:40 <pigeons>	sure
Mar 20 00:52:06 <pigeons>	1BjGr16hjmAKEmCAstswX6m55WDVnTPjHB
Mar 20 00:54:08 <pigeons>	ok guys we're getting a report, this better be humorous
Mar 20 00:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1422 @ 0.00074197 = 1.0551 BTC [-]
Mar 20 00:54:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3252 @ 0.00072858 = 2.3693 BTC [-]
Mar 20 00:55:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 00:55:24 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 20 00:55:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 20 00:55:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.75001, Best ask: 59.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12999, Last trade: 59.70002, 24 hour volume: 104259.81722566, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.75246
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Mar 20 01:14:34 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons need more funds? id like to see what you find as well
Mar 20 01:14:55 <pigeons>	no its courtesy mircea_popescu
Mar 20 01:15:15 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks mp
Mar 20 01:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	sure
Mar 20 01:15:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i hope the knowledge is shared:)
Mar 20 01:15:40 <Namworld>	I wouldn’t mind more funds.
Mar 20 01:15:40 <mircea_popescu>	such as it is.
Mar 20 01:15:42 <Chaang-Noi>	knowledge/lulz
Mar 20 01:15:45 <Namworld>	For BTC-BOND
Mar 20 01:16:01 <Namworld>	Too many people cashing out.
Mar 20 01:16:27 <Namworld>	It’s a pain to service.
Mar 20 01:16:38 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i dont like lending out money... wife twisted my arm to lend $400 to one of her friends for 2 weeks. im still pissed
Mar 20 01:17:08 <pigeons>	dont worry about your wife's friend, he's pay back
Mar 20 01:17:12 <pigeons>	*he'll
Mar 20 01:17:42 <Chaang-Noi>	not so worried about the money, it just changes things socially when you lend moeny to freinds
Mar 20 01:17:57 <Chaang-Noi>	or if he wont pay back, no friend, lol
Mar 20 01:18:00 <kakobrekla>	i have seen people turn on you for 100$
Mar 20 01:18:12 <Namworld>	People are mad...
Mar 20 01:18:19 <Chaang-Noi>	this is thailand and this is like 1/2 a months wages maybe more
Mar 20 01:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	they make 800 bucks am onth in thailand ?!
Mar 20 01:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	no wai.
Mar 20 01:18:50 <pigeons>	i was joking, you're wife asked you to loan money to her friend a dude?
Mar 20 01:18:53 <Chaang-Noi>	the average wage here is $600  he gets paid more cuz he has a skill in demand
Mar 20 01:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	is that skill a long yet thick penis ?
Mar 20 01:19:15 <Chaang-Noi>	pigeons they are a family, we are kinda close
Mar 20 01:19:24 <kakobrekla>	so much humor and so much scam, sometiems its hard to tell which is which
Mar 20 01:19:24 <pigeons>	ok
Mar 20 01:19:36 <Chaang-Noi>	no, i live in a good fruit growing region, and he is able and willing to work lopng hours to take care of the trees
Mar 20 01:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla hence scammor
Mar 20 01:19:46 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 20 01:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi what fruits are those ?
Mar 20 01:20:07 <Chaang-Noi>	mangostean and durian mostly
Mar 20 01:20:23 <Chaang-Noi>	others too, but others dont need as much skills evidently
Mar 20 01:20:56 <Chaang-Noi>	mangostean is my fav fruit, durian is close to the my least fav
Mar 20 01:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha i knew it
Mar 20 01:21:10 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 20 01:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	mangosteen! where is lowtax!
Mar 20 01:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi it's this perennial mockery @something bawful's history
Mar 20 01:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	they were pushing some mangosteen scam thing a while back, much drama ensued
Mar 20 01:22:10 <Chaang-Noi>	lowtax live about a mile from me in the usa when we were growing up
Mar 20 01:22:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know about that but its damn hard to get in the usa
Mar 20 01:22:41 <pigeons>	now its at the supermarkets
Mar 20 01:22:44 <Chaang-Noi>	its like $50 airshipped over night from thailand on amazin.com for like 7 fruit
Mar 20 01:22:57 <Chaang-Noi>	is it? impressive
Mar 20 01:23:10 <Chaang-Noi>	can they grow it in Fl?
Mar 20 01:23:15 <pigeons>	ah
Mar 20 01:23:16 <pigeons>	yeah
Mar 20 01:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	so 60 is the new 50 eh ?
Mar 20 01:23:23 <Chaang-Noi>	nice, used to be illegal
Mar 20 01:23:48 <pigeons>	ah i see, googling
Mar 20 01:23:51 <Chaang-Noi>	well, we kinda blasted into and out of 50 with no stop... 60 might be the new 47.5
Mar 20 01:23:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00575 BTC [+]
Mar 20 01:24:17 <Chaang-Noi>	i did hear tehy started to open up mangostean in the usa a few years ago,
Mar 20 01:24:34 <Chaang-Noi>	im glad to see it is in the usa, it is an awesome fruit
Mar 20 01:25:08 <Namworld>	looks yummy
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Mar 20 01:25:38 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, its like cotten candy but with a strong vit c taste
Mar 20 01:25:51 <Chaang-Noi>	good stuff, and its really vitiman packed
Mar 20 01:26:08 <Namworld>	Where’s the GUI MPEx client?
Mar 20 01:26:20 <Namworld>	oh right, nevermind... smickles.com
Mar 20 01:26:25 <Namworld>	kind of easy to remember
Mar 20 01:26:33 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 20 01:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10328 @ 0.00072562 = 7.4942 BTC [-]
Mar 20 01:27:38 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, good name huh
Mar 20 01:28:02 <Namworld>	not responding tho. He must be on a BitVPS vps...
Mar 20 01:28:10 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 20 01:28:38 <Namworld>	Seriously, our rented nodes have been giving us so much shit lately. We can’t wait to get everyone moved to our own servers.
Mar 20 01:28:38 <Chaang-Noi>	mp, are you an artist?
Mar 20 01:28:41 <mircea_popescu>	yeah i dont see it either
Mar 20 01:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi not in any conventional sense i don't think
Mar 20 01:28:59 <Chaang-Noi>	http://mirceapopescu.com/mirceapopescu.com_/drawing.html
Mar 20 01:29:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00496 = 0.0099 BTC [+]
Mar 20 01:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	that's some old dood.
Mar 20 01:29:25 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh, i half expected to see an SA site
Mar 20 01:29:41 <Chaang-Noi>	SA seems lazy these days
Mar 20 01:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	not what it used to be in 2006 or w/e
Mar 20 01:30:12 <Chaang-Noi>	or 2001
Mar 20 01:30:23 <Chaang-Noi>	god damn i feel old
Mar 20 01:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much nobody left there, i mean past month or so i beebn asking friends i knew used to be huge sa buffs
Mar 20 01:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	everyone's like "meh. haven't been there in X years"
Mar 20 01:30:55 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah like 11 or 12 for me
Mar 20 01:31:12 <Chaang-Noi>	and i was not there much, only cuz i new the core group in real life
Mar 20 01:31:50 <Chaang-Noi>	on 9-11 the got a photo of a guy on the towers with the airplane behing about to crash played on cnn
Mar 20 01:32:04 <Chaang-Noi>	clearly it was photos shopped but they showed it like 3 times, was fucking lol
Mar 20 01:32:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136375753737.jpg big ass, tiny crack.
Mar 20 01:33:04 <Chaang-Noi>	http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJke78SUlRN0QA0T6JzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dphoto%2B9-11%2Bairplane%2Bcrash%2Bphotoshopped%2Btower%26n%3D30%26ei%3Dutf-8%26y%3DSearch%26fr%3Dsfp%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D55&w=500&h=345&imgurl=farm4.staticflickr.com%2F3141%2F2843928473_44b84d75bd.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F24345182%40N03%2F28439284
Mar 20 01:33:04 <Chaang-Noi>	73%2F&size=83.4+KB&name=Recent+Photos+The+Commons+Getty+Collection+Galleries+World+Map+App+...&p=photo+9-11+airplane+crash+photoshopped+tower&oid=bd885a2e00be7a839184d95acdb7ea93&fr2=&fr=sfp&tt=Recent%2BPhotos%2BThe%2BCommons%2BGetty%2BCollection%2BGalleries%2BWorld%2BMap%2BApp%2B...&b=31&ni=220&no=55&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11lsq5c30&sigb=14bcp79hb&sigi=11lt5ct6m&.crumb=xXUGtlVbO1d    this one
Mar 20 01:33:16 <Chaang-Noi>	holy shit that link...
Mar 20 01:34:30 <bgupta>	Curious are ASICMINER shares (and passthroughs) traded anywhere other than btct.co, bitfunder and bitcointalk's forums?
Mar 20 01:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Mar 20 01:35:37 <bgupta>	volume is really low.. is that this equity, or are most btc denominated equities low volume?
Mar 20 01:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta s.dice saw > 10k btc on ipo day
Mar 20 01:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	this was just mismanaged into the ground.
Mar 20 01:36:16 <bgupta>	well IPO is a bit different..
Mar 20 01:36:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Mar 20 01:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	actually, s.bbet saw more volume at launch than asicminer
Mar 20 01:36:21 <Namworld>	There was a S.DICE IPO?
Mar 20 01:36:22 <Chaang-Noi>	for now asicminer is one of the more active stocks
Mar 20 01:36:24 <pigeons>	bgupta: most are low, yeah s.dice s.mpoe are exceptions
Mar 20 01:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld back in august
Mar 20 01:36:33 <Chaang-Noi>	there is a lot of volume you cant see cuz otc
Mar 20 01:36:36 <pigeons>	you dont remember the s.dice ipo?
Mar 20 01:36:58 <bgupta>	Chaang-Noi: otc as in irc otc?
Mar 20 01:37:04 <Chaang-Noi>	no
Mar 20 01:37:10 <pigeons>	;;seen usagi
Mar 20 01:37:11 <gribble>	usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 19 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <usagi> http://howestreet.com/2013/01/platinum-overtakes-gold-at-last/
Mar 20 01:37:16 <Chaang-Noi>	as in people trading via pms with each other and fried cat
Mar 20 01:37:25 <Namworld>	Oh, sorry, I thought another block from owners were dumped or something
Mar 20 01:37:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i have traded 5000 shares alone in the last 2 weeks
Mar 20 01:37:34 <bgupta>	err, so how do they connect other than forums?
Mar 20 01:37:47 <Chaang-Noi>	find a guy who wants to sell, agree to price, tell friedcat
Mar 20 01:37:54 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta one doesn't, mostly. it's jsut the empty chatter of whatever.
Mar 20 01:38:01 <Chaang-Noi>	ill sell for the right price, what are you qwilling to pay and how many?
Mar 20 01:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	i've been promised shares to short for what, two weeks now.
Mar 20 01:38:25 <Chaang-Noi>	you never ask me mp, what terms do you have?
Mar 20 01:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	something similar to last time i'd guess
Mar 20 01:39:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know about last time
Mar 20 01:39:15 <Chaang-Noi>	you shorted it before? you must have lost massivly
Mar 20 01:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	nah actually i made btc on that deal.
Mar 20 01:39:47 <Chaang-Noi>	shorting a stock that goes up 8005, still makes money, you are my new god:)
Mar 20 01:39:50 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, 6 months, 1% per month over dividends paid, we'll have to lock it to an exchange as i don't deal in vapour
Mar 20 01:39:51 <Chaang-Noi>	800%
Mar 20 01:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	what sort of volume can you push ?
Mar 20 01:40:45 <Chaang-Noi>	1% is not worth me locking it down for 6 months
Mar 20 01:40:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1190 @ 0.00070626 = 0.8404 BTC [-]
Mar 20 01:41:12 <Chaang-Noi>	that is not worth the risk the exchange just might do a glbse
Mar 20 01:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	but if you are holding the shares...
Mar 20 01:41:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i trust friedcat a lot, some of the exchanges, not as much
Mar 20 01:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	then you're getting the same dividends but no %
Mar 20 01:42:02 <pigeons>	the operators are all here, which one don't you trust?
Mar 20 01:42:12 <pigeons>	what if it gets listed on the fan club?
Mar 20 01:42:26 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi you can pick the venue for all i care.
Mar 20 01:42:41 <Chaang-Noi>	having the stocks stored with a 3rd party adds more risk, and i dont think that risk is worth the 1% i would get
Mar 20 01:43:02 <mircea_popescu>	that's a sad indictment of the various exchanges i guess
Mar 20 01:43:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.82 = 1.64 BTC [-]
Mar 20 01:43:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i understand mp, and i think some have less risk than others, but im going to pass. i think i can make more money buying and selling them. thanks for the offer however.
Mar 20 01:43:47 <ThickAsThieves>	1% is too low for anything in bitcoin right now
Mar 20 01:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, bgupta, point in case. when i say "mismanaged into the ground" this is exactly what i mean.
Mar 20 01:43:48 <Chaang-Noi>	glbse did not last 100 months :)
Mar 20 01:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	trade can't occur because asicminer doesn't have or understand financial management.
Mar 20 01:44:32 <Chaang-Noi>	trade is hard with asicminer, but most holders dont care as much,
Mar 20 01:44:47 <Chaang-Noi>	i was able to sell 5kshares and buy about 3k shares with little trouble
Mar 20 01:45:01 <Chaang-Noi>	friedcat has been very good about trades
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Mar 20 01:48:07 <kakobrekla>	well thees a read
Mar 20 01:48:07 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155230.0
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Mar 20 01:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 20 01:48:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.10000, Best ask: 59.29999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 59.29999, 24 hour volume: 104802.48103137, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.94039
Mar 20 01:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Mar 20 01:49:30 <mircea_popescu>	bugpowder didn't say a word in here about it ?!
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Mar 20 01:50:53 <pigeons>	"The only thing I ask is that, since this is a paid service, you not share the data in public (i.e. in a forum post) or something like that."
Mar 20 01:51:49 <pigeons>	oh and re: coinlab
Mar 20 01:51:53 <pigeons>	We'll have everyone moved over by March 22!
Mar 20 01:51:57 <pigeons>	riiight
Mar 20 01:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons quote from ?
Mar 20 01:53:50 <pigeons>	the first one, a PM from usagi about the TU.SILVER books he is sending
Mar 20 01:54:04 <pigeons>	the second one from Vessenes
Mar 20 01:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	March 21st, the first day of spring! Rebirth! Rejuvenation!
Mar 20 01:54:37 <pigeons>	they should make it april 1
Mar 20 01:54:54 <BingoBoingo>	TU.SILVER is that another underdocumented mess?
Mar 20 01:55:08 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 20 01:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	messinprogress
Mar 20 01:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons o but they will.
Mar 20 01:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.99 = 3.98 BTC [-]
Mar 20 01:58:38 <Namworld>	TU.SILVER is overpriced. Anyone want to sell me some at the correct value?
Mar 20 01:59:00 <Namworld>	The one were price is more like value implied by silver held for it?
Mar 20 01:59:22 <pigeons>	that would also be overpriced, because it doesn't include the usagi factor
Mar 20 01:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 20 01:59:47 <mircea_popescu>	i'd sell an indefinite ammount of anything usagi makes at its nominal value.
Mar 20 02:00:09 <Namworld>	I don’t care. I got puts on it. I’d exercise them with my TU.SILVER
Mar 20 02:00:32 <pigeons>	can we send him silver and get shares?
Mar 20 02:00:42 <Namworld>	Maybe
Mar 20 02:01:06 <Namworld>	I love these new options. I can finally buy for a fraction shares rights to buy/sell something.
Mar 20 02:01:13 <Namworld>	Perfect when I expect price movements
Mar 20 02:01:16 *	mircea_popescu imagines the film of this. knock on a door in some dorm somewhere
Mar 20 02:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	here's your 1.85 tons of silver.
Mar 20 02:01:29 <Namworld>	I CAN FINALLY SHORT WHAT I WANT!
Mar 20 02:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld this will end in tears.
Mar 20 02:01:44 <BingoBoingo>	Aren't the asks on TU.SIlver all showing a hefty premium over actual silver+shipping?
Mar 20 02:01:54 <pigeons>	yes
Mar 20 02:01:58 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBoingo 82 dollars per oz
Mar 20 02:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	vs 29 irl
Mar 20 02:02:08 <Chaang-Noi>	any bids?
Mar 20 02:03:41 <pigeons>	yes
Mar 20 02:04:05 <pigeons>	heh 1.5 btc worth of bids
Mar 20 02:04:24 <Namworld>	mircea: why?
Mar 20 02:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld suppose i buy 1k worth of silver pseudoasset puts
Mar 20 02:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	when its time to pay up, where does the btc come from ?
Mar 20 02:05:44 <Namworld>	It’s all reserved
Mar 20 02:06:03 <Namworld>	It must be deposited and put aside by Bitfunder. I trust Ukto, not the put seller
Mar 20 02:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	so unless someone is willing to reserve a shitton of btc i can't buy my puts ?
Mar 20 02:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	how's this an improvement ?
Mar 20 02:06:43 <Namworld>	You have to reserve enough BTC to fill the puts/calls when writing them.
Mar 20 02:06:50 <Namworld>	enough BTC or shares
Mar 20 02:07:03 <Namworld>	When you execute, it’s at strike on the option.
Mar 20 02:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	so can i buy 1k puts on that thing atm ?
Mar 20 02:07:38 <Namworld>	No seller.
Mar 20 02:07:43 <Namworld>	of puts
Mar 20 02:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	so then... no improvement.
Mar 20 02:08:09 <Namworld>	no, there is good puts/calls being placed. But they’re being bought.
Mar 20 02:08:10 <mircea_popescu>	i thought from what you said there's actually liquidity in options mkt
Mar 20 02:08:24 <BingoBoingo>	mircea_popescu I think you flipped it, silver is closer to $28/oz last I checed TU.silver had asks at 0.14BTC/Share for an ambiguous definition of share...
Mar 20 02:08:35 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBoingo 1/10 of an oz
Mar 20 02:08:35 <Namworld>	It just got out. Not much liquidity yet.
Mar 20 02:08:52 <Namworld>	People will get around to use it more.
Mar 20 02:10:40 <pigeons>	;;calc ([ticker --last] * 0.14 * 10) - 28.92
Mar 20 02:10:41 <gribble>	52.840042
Mar 20 02:10:49 <pigeons>	;;calc ([ticker --last] * 0.14 * 10)
Mar 20 02:10:49 <gribble>	81.760042
Mar 20 02:10:58 <Namworld>	Huge premium on those
Mar 20 02:11:12 <Namworld>	Way over their price
Mar 20 02:12:05 <BingoBoingo>	mircea_popescu Do they sell silver that small or is there a swing people aren't showing... Coinabul shows 0.5 BTC for an once of silver... I think Usagi is awfully bullish or lubed numbers up to extract them from a convenient place
Mar 20 02:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	let me get the discussion on forum
Mar 20 02:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny at least
Mar 20 02:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1641634#msg1641634
Mar 20 02:13:33 <pigeons>	BingoBoingo: you can buy a pre 1964 us dime pretty much anywhere for $2.50 usd
Mar 20 02:13:42 <pigeons>	http://www.coinflation.com/coins/1946-1964-Silver-Roosevelt-Dime-Value.html
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Mar 20 02:14:04 <pigeons>	BingoBoingo: usagi is special
Mar 20 02:16:11 <BingoBoingo>	pigeons I might have noticed, the question seems to be how special...
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Mar 20 02:17:01 <pigeons>	quite special
Mar 20 02:18:01 <BingoBoingo>	mircea_popescu I do like how accessing his books costs a full share...
Mar 20 02:18:21 <pigeons>	we have the books on the way
Mar 20 02:18:54 <pigeons>	they were on his bitvps
Mar 20 02:18:59 <mircea_popescu>	ya well... i do like how the price of exposing scams is going down
Mar 20 02:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	harnett cost me 500 btc.
Mar 20 02:19:28 <BingoBoingo>	Oooohhh...
Mar 20 02:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	of course... in relative terms... 500 btc to blow a 50k+ scam
Mar 20 02:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	vs .14 btc to blow a 5 btc scam...
Mar 20 02:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	heh. i guess maybe im deluding myself.
Mar 20 02:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.cyprusexpat.co.uk/blog/read/id:3160/germany-warns-cyprus-that-banks-may-never-open-again
Mar 20 02:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	who was asking me earlier what's it mean for cyprus ? benkay ?
Mar 20 02:20:59 <Chaang-Noi>	banks never open again, omfg
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Mar 20 02:21:32 <BingoBoingo>	What happened every other time Germany got bullish on how to tell the rest of Europe how to do business?
Mar 20 02:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1649 @ 0.00070739 = 1.1665 BTC [+]
Mar 20 02:22:24 <Namworld>	So. How about we roll out that latest version of the Earth? What’s it called? Ah yeah, Apocalypse.
Mar 20 02:22:29 <Namworld>	And get done with that
Mar 20 02:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBoingo has nothing to do with germany tho
Mar 20 02:24:23 <BingoBoingo>	I was just thinking Germany tried to tell people how to bank three times and then they started hiding behind Belgium...
Mar 20 02:24:27 <mircea_popescu>	cyprus banks owe money.
Mar 20 02:27:32 <BingoBoingo>	Sure mircea_popescu Cyprus banks owe money. Largely on Greek debt among other bad Euro debts. It is just Germany seems to like playing Euro enforcer now that everyone else has made them throw away the sharp objects
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Mar 20 02:36:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9191 @ 0.00070626 = 6.4912 BTC [-]
Mar 20 02:36:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26 @ 0.00070542 = 0.0183 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 02:37:04 <Chaang-Noi>	how can the euro last?
Mar 20 02:37:36 <Chaang-Noi>	it just seems so fucked up, these small nations just dont give a fuck cuz they are in so far into debt they are meh anyway
Mar 20 02:37:45 <pigeons>	euro investing in tu.silver
Mar 20 02:38:33 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, well then never mind:)
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Mar 20 02:39:54 <vfvfxfzx>	euro is fucked
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Mar 20 02:40:40 <pigeons>	if we don't get these tu.silver books maybe we can get a scammer tag
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Mar 20 02:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99 BTC [-]
Mar 20 02:42:33 <Chaang-Noi>	if you paid for it, and he does not have them then yeah, seems about right
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Mar 20 02:46:20 <Chaang-Noi>	what type of cpu chip would be best for "laoding block index" on a linux computer and doing so quickly
Mar 20 02:46:39 <Chaang-Noi>	checking old wallets for ltc/btc takes forever just to open
Mar 20 02:49:38 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: hrm
Mar 20 02:49:41 <pigeons>	ok no more rapidshare or megaupload where do i put a spreadsheet
Mar 20 02:49:46 <Diablo-D3>	well, swithcing to bitcoin 0.8.0 helps a LOT there
Mar 20 02:50:18 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: but you'd be better off with a Bulldozer family CPU (any will do, even the new ones)
Mar 20 02:50:55 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: but bitcoin 0.8.0 checks chains in parallel with multiple threads, and it also uses a lot less disk IO to do it
Mar 20 02:51:00 <BingoBoingo>	The best CPU for loading the block index now depends on what version of bitcoin-qt you are using Chaang-Noi
Mar 20 02:51:06 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: as for LTC, dunno what to tell you, they should just merge 0.8.0 changes in
Mar 20 02:51:14 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: not really
Mar 20 02:51:25 <Diablo-D3>	AMD has superior single threaded integer performance
Mar 20 02:51:33 <Chaang-Noi>	lets assume i use 0.8.2 or whatever the newest btc is
Mar 20 02:51:54 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: then you're already going as fast as you can
Mar 20 02:52:01 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: you're limited at disk io
Mar 20 02:52:16 <Chaang-Noi>	so SSD?
Mar 20 02:52:20 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Mar 20 02:52:25 <Diablo-D3>	a high IOPS SSD would help
Mar 20 02:52:31 <Chaang-Noi>	btc wallets work well with SSD?
Mar 20 02:52:33 <Diablo-D3>	it doens't need to have a lot of raw throughput
Mar 20 02:52:40 <BingoBoingo>	The old 0.7.2+ would probably load fastest on an i7 because BDB doesn't parallelize well, 0.8.X and later on an AMD chip I imagine; an SSD makes a bigger bifference than any processor though
Mar 20 02:52:42 <Diablo-D3>	SSDs work well with everything
Mar 20 02:52:49 <Diablo-D3>	the whole writing to death thing has long since been a pile of bullshit
Mar 20 02:52:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i liketo use encrypted drives, and i know SSD sucks for encryption safety
Mar 20 02:52:54 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: except thats wrong
Mar 20 02:53:11 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: Bulldozers have four integer ALUs per core
Mar 20 02:53:11 <BingoBoingo>	SSD is good with encryption if you start it encrypted
Mar 20 02:53:27 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: SSD works fine for encryption
Mar 20 02:53:32 <Chaang-Noi>	so when i load the OS just do full disk on a ssd and im fine?
Mar 20 02:53:41 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: the problem is it can't do automatic TRIM on its own
Mar 20 02:53:43 <BingoBoingo>	sure Diable-D3, but BDB doesn't scale over multiple cores very well
Mar 20 02:53:46 <Diablo-D3>	you NEED to use an OS that does TRIM
Mar 20 02:53:52 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: I didnt say multiple cores.
Mar 20 02:53:59 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: I said multiple ALU
Mar 20 02:54:01 <Chaang-Noi>	like mint 13?
Mar 20 02:54:09 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: any modern linux
Mar 20 02:54:16 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: or osx on apple blessed drives
Mar 20 02:54:24 <Diablo-D3>	or windows 7 or newer
Mar 20 02:54:32 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: the filesystem on linux will be the problem though
Mar 20 02:54:35 <BingoBoingo>	Anything past Debian 6.0 is fine for SSD encrypted Linux
Mar 20 02:54:42 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: you'll need to use ext4
Mar 20 02:54:56 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: unless you shove btrfs on an encrypted lvm, which is kind of retarded
Mar 20 02:55:15 <Diablo-D3>	and ZoL doesnt do encryption yet (and you need ubuntu to boot ZoL as well)
Mar 20 02:55:30 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol what, i cant just used a standart install of mint 13 or 14?
Mar 20 02:55:42 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: depends entirely what mint uses by default
Mar 20 02:55:59 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: debian and ubuntu both can install ext4 to encrypted lvm at install time
Mar 20 02:56:26 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Mar 20 02:56:28 <Diablo-D3>	so I assume mint can as well
Mar 20 02:56:45 <Chaang-Noi>	ill get an ssd i guess, hell i might as well by a new laptop
Mar 20 02:56:50 <Diablo-D3>	and the reason I say ext4 over ext3 is ext3 isn't optimized for TRIM
Mar 20 02:57:03 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: btw, OSX does support full encryption out of the box
Mar 20 02:57:11 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont do apple
Mar 20 02:57:13 <Diablo-D3>	so if you're into getting a new laptop, mbp retinas arent so bad
Mar 20 02:57:27 <Diablo-D3>	I dont do apple either, but I needed one for software dev reasons
Mar 20 02:57:32 <Diablo-D3>	and I cant say I hate the hardware.
Mar 20 02:57:36 <Chaang-Noi>	ill get an asus unltra book with an i7 and the awesome screen
Mar 20 02:57:55 <Chaang-Noi>	with the ssd and windows 8, then nuke windows 8
Mar 20 02:58:19 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: anyhow, what I was saying is, its not that BDB doesn't do parallel thats the issue
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Mar 20 02:58:38 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: its that 0.7.x and earlier doesn't use threads to check the chain in parallel
Mar 20 02:58:50 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: BDB is disk IO limited, not CPU limited
Mar 20 02:59:03 <Diablo-D3>	you most likely wont peak on one core with BDB anyways
Mar 20 02:59:23 <Diablo-D3>	0.8.0 introduced both leveldb and threaded chain checking
Mar 20 02:59:37 <Diablo-D3>	so now it will happily saturate all cores IF your disk can keep up
Mar 20 02:59:49 <Diablo-D3>	and leveldb rapes disk IO much less than bdb
Mar 20 03:00:12 <Diablo-D3>	that said, if you're on a single threaded integer app, Bulldozers will win
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Mar 20 03:00:37 <Diablo-D3>	but it just doesn't matter, with bdb, your disk cant keep up
Mar 20 03:02:17 <BingoBoingo>	Diablo-D3 the single integer ALU BDB will try to lock into probably won't keep up either...
Mar 20 03:02:35 <BingoBoingo>	I'm not talking core in the marketing sense
Mar 20 03:02:48 <Diablo-D3>	I'm talking core in the core sense
Mar 20 03:02:55 <Diablo-D3>	bulldozers are two hardware thread cores
Mar 20 03:03:06 <Diablo-D3>	they're 4x integer ALU + 2x FP ALU
Mar 20 03:03:14 <Diablo-D3>	on strongly integer tasks, they're quite fast
Mar 20 03:03:50 <BingoBoingo>	BDB tends to lock into the single smallest discrete uniti it can find to run it, BDB probably wont't use all of those cores Bulldozer is offering, but I would believe reputable benchmarks that say otherwise...
Mar 20 03:05:23 <BingoBoingo>	For BDB core most often will mean it latches onto one interger computing unit and will force itself through that.
Mar 20 03:05:46 <BingoBoingo>	BDB does this because it hates the idea of a future
Mar 20 03:06:29 <BingoBoingo>	Unles built with many special compiler flags any parallelization it might experience will be accidental
Mar 20 03:07:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00070542 = 1.1639 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:07:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 95 @ 0.00442 = 0.4199 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:07:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 290 @ 0.00441 = 1.2789 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:07:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.0044 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:07:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.004 = 0.04 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:07:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:08:35 <Namworld>	urgh... S.DICE not doing well enough in my taste.
Mar 20 03:08:57 <pigeons>	ok no offense to coinabul, but usagi is buying his silver from there, i would think those premiums are not really suited for an investment fan club
Mar 20 03:09:53 <pigeons>	also the buying JAH shares is wtf
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Mar 20 03:11:22 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: I think you didn't listen to what I said
Mar 20 03:11:36 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: BDB nor bitcoin 0.7.x is multithreaded where it needs to be
Mar 20 03:11:46 <Diablo-D3>	this is why instruction level parallelism is important
Mar 20 03:12:03 <Diablo-D3>	but BDB uses so much disk IO to just read the db, that your CPU isn't the bottleneck
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Mar 20 03:12:52 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/11/mpex-listing-bonanza/
Mar 20 03:12:54 <Bowjob>	Lol wtf??
Mar 20 03:13:16 <BingoBoingo>	Depends on the disk, but I believe Goat aksed about the best processor... Bowjob I was one of the winners on that BitBet...
Mar 20 03:13:49 <Bowjob>	huh
Mar 20 03:15:46 <BingoBoingo>	Bowjob I was the bet from 1Magr on http://bitbet.us/bet/11/mpex-listing-bonanza/ so I won my fair weighted portion...
Mar 20 03:15:49 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo: goat asked how to get it to go faster
Mar 20 03:15:59 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i want faster
Mar 20 03:16:03 <Diablo-D3>	BingoBoingo:he was just mistaken that the cpu greatly factors in on this
Mar 20 03:17:13 <BingoBoingo>	Ah, then yeah... Keep on a LevelDB version of maintain the blockchain on a fast SSD, one in a PCI-e slot for best performance.
Mar 20 03:17:46 <Diablo-D3>	pci-e slot SSDs don't magically get more performance
Mar 20 03:17:50 <Diablo-D3>	not for that cost, anyways
Mar 20 03:18:18 <Bowjob>	Oh yeah, i did a tx today, it seemed quite fast
Mar 20 03:18:39 <Diablo-D3>	and theres still problems with Linux support for some of them
Mar 20 03:19:49 <Chaang-Noi>	for ssd??
Mar 20 03:20:16 <BingoBoingo>	On PCI-e, but normal SATA is safe
Mar 20 03:20:17 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 can i buy any of the new asus ultrabooks and have it run mint14 fine?
Mar 20 03:20:29 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: we're talking about pci-e ones
Mar 20 03:20:33 <Diablo-D3>	not SATA/SAS
Mar 20 03:20:45 <Diablo-D3>	sata/sas ones are supported fine, they're normal devices
Mar 20 03:20:53 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 20 03:20:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 58.55015, Best ask: 58.57000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01985, Last trade: 58.57000, 24 hour volume: 108368.69380536, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.15651
Mar 20 03:21:12 <Bowjob>	theres the correction
Mar 20 03:21:17 <Bowjob>	4 bucks off of the ATH
Mar 20 03:21:47 <Bowjob>	I hope we chill here for a bit.. kinda like calm before the shitstorm before moving into 70s
Mar 20 03:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 20 03:22:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 58.50001, Best ask: 58.55014, Bid-ask spread: 0.05013, Last trade: 58.55014, 24 hour volume: 108233.45685213, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.16941
Mar 20 03:22:46 <Chaang-Noi>	taht ath has some guy doing a market order with 500k usd... we are still above what he started buying at...
Mar 20 03:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	vwap still under spot
Mar 20 03:23:24 <Bowjob>	i hope hes a strong hand
Mar 20 03:23:43 <Bowjob>	not some rich kids of instagram kid
Mar 20 03:27:46 <pigeons>	i still laugh every time i come acroos
Mar 20 03:27:49 <pigeons>	http://picturesofpeoplescanningqrcodes.tumblr.com/
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Mar 20 03:30:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009875 = 0.0988 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:30:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.009874 = 0.1481 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:31:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [+]
Mar 20 03:32:35 <Bowjob>	oh, weve reached 65 on cavirtex
Mar 20 03:32:38 <Namworld>	pigeons: I don’t get it.
Mar 20 03:32:46 <Namworld>	Bowjob: Canadian?
Mar 20 03:32:55 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Mar 20 03:32:56 <pigeons>	No posts yet
Mar 20 03:33:00 <Diablo-D3>	I think I might consider starting a SD competitor
Mar 20 03:33:01 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 20 03:33:01 <pigeons>	hahaha
Mar 20 03:33:28 <Bowjob>	i just look at cavirtex. too many fucking rules
Mar 20 03:33:36 <Bowjob>	fees, limits, blah blah
Mar 20 03:33:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.009874 = 0.3456 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:33:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009873 = 0.0987 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:33:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.009842 = 0.0591 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:33:54 <Chaang-Noi>	d3, ill pay you to make one for me in ltc :)
Mar 20 03:33:58 <Namworld>	I don’t like cavirtex much
Mar 20 03:34:12 <Bowjob>	i want a simple exchange. transfer money -> buy btc, withraw
Mar 20 03:34:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+]
Mar 20 03:34:41 <Diablo-D3>	the problem with SD is it doesn't do a huge pot
Mar 20 03:34:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009842 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:35:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009842 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:35:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
Mar 20 03:35:14 <Bowjob>	those cypriots.. i assume they will deal in EUR
Mar 20 03:35:21 <Bowjob>	so we might see the action in euro
Mar 20 03:35:45 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 we can do sd with ltc but have each one also have like 1 in a billion shot at 100k ltc :)
Mar 20 03:36:05 <Diablo-D3>	yes but what about this
Mar 20 03:36:10 <Diablo-D3>	every satoshi is a ticket
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Mar 20 03:36:32 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah that is good
Mar 20 03:36:45 <Diablo-D3>	so one jackpot
Mar 20 03:36:56 <Diablo-D3>	and all the money that goes into the jackpot stays there except, say, 1%
Mar 20 03:37:05 <Bowjob>	someones dumping
Mar 20 03:37:11 <Chaang-Noi>	oh you want to do that by itself,
Mar 20 03:37:19 <Bowjob>	im watching the action on coinlab
Mar 20 03:37:20 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yeah
Mar 20 03:37:33 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob all day these spikes of sells, someone is dumping with out killing the market
Mar 20 03:37:44 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: have like a 1 in a trillion chance of winning
Mar 20 03:37:49 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 20 03:38:50 <Diablo-D3>	the pot could go up to thousands of btc
Mar 20 03:39:10 <Namworld>	10k on average
Mar 20 03:39:24 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: er?
Mar 20 03:40:26 <Namworld>	Assuming one winner every 1 trillion, pot should reach an average of 10k BTC
Mar 20 03:40:45 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: I mean as in 1:1trillion per 1 BTC
Mar 20 03:40:51 <Diablo-D3>	since every satoshi is an attempt
Mar 20 03:41:01 <Diablo-D3>	I might not have the right magnitude
Mar 20 03:41:07 <Diablo-D3>	it'll be out of a 512 bit space
Mar 20 03:41:37 <Namworld>	1 chance on a trillion per BTC?
Mar 20 03:41:45 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Mar 20 03:41:51 <Namworld>	We’ll run out of BTC...
Mar 20 03:42:20 <tiberiusiv>	whats wrong with cavirtex?
Mar 20 03:42:27 <Diablo-D3>	I'll even seed the pot with 100 BTC
Mar 20 03:42:43 <Namworld>	tiberiusiv: fees... fucking 3% for new accounts
Mar 20 03:42:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.858995 = 8.59 BTC [+]
Mar 20 03:43:00 <Namworld>	You mean 1:1 trillion per satoshi...
Mar 20 03:43:03 <Namworld>	odds
Mar 20 03:43:13 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: who do you use to cashout?
Mar 20 03:43:16 <Diablo-D3>	no
Mar 20 03:43:24 <Namworld>	tiberiusiv: cavirtex
Mar 20 03:43:27 <Namworld>	usually
Mar 20 03:43:27 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: 1 satoshi would be one in 1:2^512th odds
Mar 20 03:43:54 <Namworld>	But... how do you determine the winner?
Mar 20 03:44:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.859 = 1.718 BTC [+]
Mar 20 03:44:11 <Diablo-D3>	the way the rest are
Mar 20 03:44:12 <Namworld>	You can’t have a 1:1 trillion chance to win for a BTC
Mar 20 03:44:42 <Diablo-D3>	take txid, hash it, then take the first x bytes and see if its less than the taget
Mar 20 03:44:42 <Diablo-D3>	*target
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Mar 20 03:45:17 <Namworld>	so odds of winning is not 1:1 trillion
Mar 20 03:45:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [-]
Mar 20 03:45:34 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: no, I said I probably got the magnitude wrong
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Mar 20 03:51:16 <Diablo-D3>	derp
Mar 20 03:51:52 <Bowjob>	*yawn
Mar 20 03:51:56 <Bowjob>	to $100
Mar 20 03:52:17 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: okay what about each satoshi is a 1 in 15 quaturovigintillion change?
Mar 20 03:52:41 <Diablo-D3>	er chance
Mar 20 03:52:57 <Diablo-D3>	thats 2^256
Mar 20 03:53:31 <Diablo-D3>	2^128 is 340 undecillion
Mar 20 03:53:44 <Namworld>	That can’t work...
Mar 20 03:53:51 <Namworld>	or I’m missing something
Mar 20 03:54:06 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: an extremely low chance.
Mar 20 03:54:23 <Diablo-D3>	2^64 is 18 quintillion
Mar 20 03:54:44 <Namworld>	like with those odds, one would bet 21 million BTC and have lower odds to win than winning the state lottery 5 times in a row.
Mar 20 03:54:52 <Diablo-D3>	and theres 8 places in 1 BTC
Mar 20 03:54:58 <Diablo-D3>	so move 18 over 8 places
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Mar 20 03:55:48 <Diablo-D3>	so 1 BTC would be 180 billion chance
Mar 20 03:55:51 <Diablo-D3>	no wait I did that wrong
Mar 20 03:55:54 <Diablo-D3>	1.8 trillion
Mar 20 03:57:54 <Namworld>	You could bet all freaking 21 BTC and have as good as null chances to win the jackpot...
Mar 20 03:58:00 <Namworld>	21 million BTC*
Mar 20 03:59:33 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: no different than powerball really
Mar 20 04:00:13 <Namworld>	powerball would have like close to infinite higher chances to win
Mar 20 04:01:51 <Diablo-D3>	184,467,440,737 per btc
Mar 20 04:01:53 <Diablo-D3>	so 184 billion
Mar 20 04:02:08 <Namworld>	uh?
Mar 20 04:02:30 <Diablo-D3>	2**64 / 100000000
Mar 20 04:03:30 <Namworld>	ok, so 1/2**64 per satoshi
Mar 20 04:03:59 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Mar 20 04:04:07 <Namworld>	;;calc 2**64/21000000*100000000
Mar 20 04:04:07 <gribble>	87841638446235959296
Mar 20 04:04:33 <Namworld>	erhm
Mar 20 04:04:36 <Diablo-D3>	I dont think you wrote what you thought you wrote
Mar 20 04:04:36 <Namworld>	;;calc 2**64/(21000000*100000000)
Mar 20 04:04:37 <gribble>	8784.16384462
Mar 20 04:05:06 <Diablo-D3>	powerball jackpot is 1 in 175 million
Mar 20 04:05:28 <Namworld>	I bet 1 BTC (58 USD) for one ticket.
Mar 20 04:05:59 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: you bet 1 BTC for 100000000 tickets, actually
Mar 20 04:06:05 <Anduck>	whos been buying btc?
Mar 20 04:06:06 <Namworld>	I could get 21 million x 58 USD ticket and have a 1/8784 odds of winning a maximum of... 21 million BTC.
Mar 20 04:06:27 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: well
Mar 20 04:06:39 <Diablo-D3>	184 billion is if I set the difficulty as high as possible
Mar 20 04:07:00 <Diablo-D3>	i184 billion per btc is if the difficulty is less than 1
Mar 20 04:07:09 <Diablo-D3>	if I set it to less than 1000 ,its 184 million
Mar 20 04:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	topace_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155238.0
Mar 20 04:07:32 <Namworld>	yeah, but that’s like zero incentive for first people to put anything.
Mar 20 04:07:41 <Namworld>	The odds are way too low.
Mar 20 04:08:02 <Diablo-D3>	[04:05:05] <Diablo-D3> powerball jackpot is 1 in 175 million
Mar 20 04:08:23 <Namworld>	They’re like infinitely lower on what you propose...
Mar 20 04:09:09 <Namworld>	;;calc 21000000*8784
Mar 20 04:09:10 <gribble>	184464000000
Mar 20 04:09:33 <Namworld>	1/184 billion if I bet a whole BTC
Mar 20 04:09:49 <Diablo-D3>	yes, I already said that
Mar 20 04:09:56 <Diablo-D3>	[04:06:38] <Diablo-D3> 184 billion is if I set the difficulty as high as possible
Mar 20 04:09:57 <Diablo-D3>	[04:06:59] <Diablo-D3> i184 billion per btc is if the difficulty is less than 1
Mar 20 04:09:57 <Diablo-D3>	[04:07:08] <Diablo-D3> if I set it to less than 1000 ,its 184 million
Mar 20 04:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 11 @ 1.999 = 21.989 BTC [+]
Mar 20 04:10:13 <Namworld>	Odds too low unless difficulty go down. Not interesting for anyone to bet.
Mar 20 04:11:00 <Namworld>	Especially since the jackpot is small too
Mar 20 04:11:24 <Namworld>	The two combines and urgh...
Mar 20 04:14:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00425 = 0.0425 BTC [+]
Mar 20 04:14:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 160 @ 0.004231 = 0.677 BTC [-]
Mar 20 04:14:40 <Diablo-D3>	fine, have the difficulty go up as the pot goes up
Mar 20 04:15:02 <Namworld>	Wouldn’t be a bad idea like that. Would make more sense.
Mar 20 04:15:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.004217 = 0.0843 BTC [-]
Mar 20 04:15:23 <Chaang-Noi>	if i accidently deleat a file on linux, how do i get it back?
Mar 20 04:15:29 <Namworld>	But difficulty should probably cap as to avoid ever lowering odds and never reaching jackpot.
Mar 20 04:16:09 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: yeah, cap is one in 1000
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Mar 20 04:17:54 <zefir>	Chaang: if you did that, it will be challenging to undelete them. first thing you need to do is shutting system down to prevent further write accesses
Mar 20 04:18:33 <Namworld>	Anyway, getting late. I’ll be off.
Mar 20 04:18:49 <Namworld>	But it does seem better with difficulty increase with pot somewhat.
Mar 20 04:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3701 @ 0.00070542 = 2.6108 BTC [-]
Mar 20 04:19:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2599 @ 0.00070356 = 1.8286 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 04:19:26 <pigeons>	difficulty increases with pot, but it seems easier
Mar 20 04:19:33 <pigeons>	:)
Mar 20 04:19:45 <Diablo-D3>	well
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Mar 20 04:20:23 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if theres a block chain info site that can give me a total list of all money sent to an address
Mar 20 04:21:31 <pigeons>	are you being sarcastic
Mar 20 04:21:38 <pigeons>	you'll never guess the name
Mar 20 04:22:11 <pigeons>	blockchain.info
Mar 20 04:22:16 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: no, I dont mean blockchain.info
Mar 20 04:22:19 <Diablo-D3>	it doesnt seem to do it
Mar 20 04:22:24 <pigeons>	i just tested
Mar 20 04:22:40 <pigeons>	"Total Received"
Mar 20 04:22:49 <Diablo-D3>	orly it can? HRM
Mar 20 04:23:49 <Diablo-D3>	blockchain.info doesn't have a json api does it
Mar 20 04:24:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [+]
Mar 20 04:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.415 = 4.565 BTC [-]
Mar 20 04:24:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.412 = 0.824 BTC [-]
Mar 20 04:24:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.411 = 1.644 BTC [-]
Mar 20 04:24:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41020001 BTC [-]
Mar 20 04:24:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.4102 = 4.9224 BTC [-]
Mar 20 04:24:11 <pigeons>	http://blockchain.info/api/blockchain_api
Mar 20 04:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.999 = 11.994 BTC [+]
Mar 20 04:25:31 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Mar 20 04:25:45 <Chaang-Noi>	d3, welsome to bitcoin and the internet :)
Mar 20 04:26:08 <Chaang-Noi>	bbl guys,
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Mar 20 04:27:00 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: that should be easy to setup with js then
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Mar 20 04:38:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01451 BTC [+]
Mar 20 04:39:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 04:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8001 @ 0.00070739 = 5.6598 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 04:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	so banks/tv/etc in south korea offline due to cyber attack
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Mar 20 04:53:13 <dub>	so ronery
Mar 20 04:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 20 04:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	"Re: New BTC Found"
Mar 20 04:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	person can't spell fund, is big time mover and shaker with experience and etc.
Mar 20 04:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	"If anyone is interested in buying securities that copy the MPEx dividend payouts but do not involve any dealings with the actual MPEx shares (such as share loans, etc.), PM me. About 1 million will be issued if there is demand. If issued, the securities will be backed by an incorporated company with EUR 200,000 total assets, of which 1500 BTC."
Mar 20 04:57:20 <mircea_popescu>	another one
Mar 20 04:57:25 <mircea_popescu>	god help us.
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Mar 20 05:37:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24994 BTC [+]
Mar 20 05:40:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00479 = 0.0096 BTC [+]
Mar 20 05:41:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0168 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 05:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 624 @ 0.00381798 = 2.3824 BTC [-]
Mar 20 05:44:13 <pigeons>	mpex bucket shop
Mar 20 05:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/m34359/1123191333.gif
Mar 20 05:46:40 <mircea_popescu>	"No, it is not. It is just the thing that we offer people to bet for. And I would be delighted to know what exactly makes us any more vulnerable to angry gov that MPEx and SD are."
Mar 20 05:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	this guy is actually pretty amusing.
Mar 20 05:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	an usagi challenger appears.
Mar 20 05:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7704 @ 0.00072562 = 5.5902 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 06:06:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0168 BTC [+]
Mar 20 06:06:04 <mircea_popescu>	X.IDIFF.MAR settled.
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Mar 20 06:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	symbol now trades for 2014 delivery.
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Mar 20 06:12:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1857 @ 0.00072143 = 1.3397 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 06:24:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2214 @ 0.00072562 = 1.6065 BTC [+]
Mar 20 06:24:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.0007314 = 6.5095 BTC [+]
Mar 20 06:25:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8559 BTC [+]
Mar 20 06:25:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.856 = 12.84 BTC [+]
Mar 20 06:26:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8569 BTC [+]
Mar 20 06:26:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.857 = 5.142 BTC [+]
Mar 20 06:29:14 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.activistpost.com/2013/03/cyprus-bank-raid-bitcoins.html
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Mar 20 06:33:28 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/03/20/south-korean-computer-crash/2001873/
Mar 20 06:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 20 06:35:59 <pigeons>	revenge for gangam style
Mar 20 06:38:43 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 20 06:38:48 <Chaang-Noi>	if only that were true
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Mar 20 06:56:54 <mjr_>	hi
Mar 20 06:57:01 <mjr_>	anyone up?
Mar 20 06:57:09 <Diablo-D3>	no.
Mar 20 06:57:13 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 20 06:57:44 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu: I'm so glad that trilema is back up...lots of good articles
Mar 20 06:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ :)
Mar 20 06:58:44 <mjr_>	i can't do the bitcointalk forum
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Mar 20 07:00:52 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu: how do i get credits?
Mar 20 07:01:16 <mjr_>	really want to read the stego article
Mar 20 07:01:37 <mjr_>	i have been sending my friends pictures of cats with encrypted messages in them
Mar 20 07:01:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 20 07:04:46 <mjr_>	;;ticker
Mar 20 07:04:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.11710, Best ask: 59.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.13290, Last trade: 59.11710, 24 hour volume: 106528.71037829, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.47445
Mar 20 07:09:29 <mjr_>	is there anyone working on a chrome plugin that could be used to pay bitcoins to websites?
Mar 20 07:09:52 <Diablo-D3>	mjr_: you wouldnt need that actually
Mar 20 07:10:03 <Diablo-D3>	you could do it with a bitcoin:// url
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Mar 20 07:13:55 <mjr_>	"Actually, if you don’t know anything about talking to computers my best advice to you is “marry someone who does”. Definitely." worth the price of admission
Mar 20 07:14:28 <mjr_>	Diablo-D3: if you have a client installed i guess?
Mar 20 07:14:37 <mjr_>	i was just thinking of mircea's model
Mar 20 07:14:57 <mjr_>	if you could automate that process...make it a click that a plugin handles behind the scenes
Mar 20 07:15:41 <mjr_>	like you would "fund" your browser...and then you would browse away to your hearts content, offering up micropayments for content that you want
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Mar 20 07:16:47 <Diablo-D3>	the problem with a browser is you'd need to have it running all the time
Mar 20 07:16:57 <mjr_>	i don't think so...
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Mar 20 07:17:07 <mjr_>	it would simply be an address that is monitored
Mar 20 07:17:12 <mjr_>	similar to blockchain.info
Mar 20 07:22:11 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons did you share that book with an interested party ?
Mar 20 07:25:28 <pigeons>	yes i did
Mar 20 07:26:18 <pigeons>	which shouldn't violate my agreement not to post it publically, bu i dont know
Mar 20 07:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	hang on im ordering my gilded popcorn
Mar 20 07:29:09 <pigeons>	waiting for his post
Mar 20 07:29:54 <pigeons>	oh i see it
Mar 20 07:31:35 <pigeons>	yeah i doubt he'll give me any more copies
Mar 20 07:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	awww
Mar 20 07:32:40 <pigeons>	surely he expected that
Mar 20 07:32:42 <pigeons>	:)
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Mar 20 07:36:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 11850 @ 0.004 = 47.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 07:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.004 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Mar 20 07:58:21 <Chaang-Noi>	seems low?
Mar 20 07:58:46 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 20 07:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00381798 / 0.00427895 / 0.005 (75762 shares, 324.18 BTC), 7D: 0.00381798 / 0.00469793 / 0.00599987 (147519 shares, 693.04 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00603657 / 0.0069 (2351124 shares, 14,192.73 BTC)
Mar 20 07:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	yup came down a fair bit.
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Mar 20 08:04:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
Mar 20 08:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc pajka.bond
Mar 20 08:05:50 <assbot>	[BTCT:PAJKA.BOND] 1D: 0.104999 / 0.105 / 0.105 (81 shares, 8.5 BTC),  7D: 0.08001 / 0.10242 / 0.10999 (1286 shares, 131.7 BTC), 30D: 0.01552 / 0.10177 / 0.10999 (1564 shares, 159.2 BTC)
Mar 20 08:08:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00074863 = 5.727 BTC [+]
Mar 20 08:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 12075 @ 0.004 = 48.3 BTC [+]
Mar 20 08:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	$depth s.dice
Mar 20 08:10:43 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Bids: ['1700 @ 0.00393432', '300 @ 0.0038', '1000 @ 0.00355004', '5034 @ 0.003198', '13530 @ 0.00311001']
Mar 20 08:10:44 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['93037 @ 0.004', '141 @ 0.00480598', '201 @ 0.005', '6623 @ 0.0051', '2000 @ 0.00577']
Mar 20 08:15:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
Mar 20 08:21:55 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155283.0 wat
Mar 20 08:22:17 <dub>	;;calc 400*[ticker --last]
Mar 20 08:22:17 <gribble>	23715.932
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Mar 20 08:23:34 <davout>	yo
Mar 20 08:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.004 = 4 BTC [+]
Mar 20 08:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	yo!
Mar 20 08:24:19 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153742.msg1646636#msg1646636 bombshell lol
Mar 20 08:25:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 20 08:25:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.30000, Best ask: 59.49998, Bid-ask spread: 0.19998, Last trade: 59.29983, 24 hour volume: 104385.36260976, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.59737
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Mar 20 08:30:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 20 08:30:16 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226924 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 883 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 19 hours, 10 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6187365.50681 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.63647
Mar 20 08:32:06 <mjr_>	;;ticker
Mar 20 08:32:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.20002, Best ask: 59.30983, Bid-ask spread: 0.10981, Last trade: 59.30983, 24 hour volume: 104205.20199766, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.60493
Mar 20 08:32:40 <mjr_>	;;calc (57.60493-41)/57.60493
Mar 20 08:32:40 <gribble>	0.288255362866
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Mar 20 08:59:46 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 20 08:59:49 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226929 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 878 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 18 hours, 31 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6197165.1884 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.83862
Mar 20 09:06:02 <kakobrekla>	so
Mar 20 09:06:10 <kakobrekla>	this guy is "gonna eat MPEX for lunch" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153742.0
Mar 20 09:06:30 <kakobrekla>	too big for breakfast?
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Mar 20 09:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	is  this a new one ?
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Mar 20 09:11:23 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 20 09:11:32 <kakobrekla>	but he has a tie.
Mar 20 09:11:49 <mircea_popescu>	a ok then
Mar 20 09:13:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 09:16:09 <mjr_>	lol binary options
Mar 20 09:16:22 <mjr_>	otherwise known as the slot machines of finance
Mar 20 09:17:04 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 20 09:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	kinda scary how many peppy nuts are circling btc since > 50
Mar 20 09:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	i shudder to think what will happen when 1000
Mar 20 09:19:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 394 @ 0.00074863 = 0.295 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 09:21:49 <Chaang-Noi>	peppy nuts?
Mar 20 09:22:07 <mircea_popescu>	from pep.
Mar 20 09:22:11 <mircea_popescu>	overactive.
Mar 20 09:22:29 <Chaang-Noi>	oh? iv not seen to much of that
Mar 20 09:22:36 <Chaang-Noi>	some celibrtation sure
Mar 20 09:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8 @ 0.004 = 0.032 BTC [+]
Mar 20 09:23:29 <knotwork>	celibrex maybe
Mar 20 09:24:23 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0
Mar 20 09:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty good
Mar 20 09:24:35 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153979.msg1647110#msg1647110
Mar 20 09:24:38 <kakobrekla>	facepalm
Mar 20 09:25:33 <jurov>	i seriously consider offering my expertise to that finnish man.. and promptly outsource it to dunnowhere
Mar 20 09:29:13 <Bowjob>	meow
Mar 20 09:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	you mean the estonian ?
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Mar 20 09:33:34 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla wait, so he wants to eat mpex for lunch by competing with bitbet ?!
Mar 20 09:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is all this nonsense!
Mar 20 09:33:55 <kakobrekla>	i thought it was sdice first
Mar 20 09:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	"- Of course the above would be moot if the spread was sky-high. We intend to push it as low as possible, and give you the best of both worlds - the liquidity of a market-maker but also the low spreads possible in a parimutuel or similar approach."
Mar 20 09:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	right. we're going to do anything and we have no plan whatsoever.
Mar 20 09:34:14 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 20 09:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Mar 20 09:34:36 <Bowjob>	Avalon will now cost 88 BTC to 115 BTC
Mar 20 09:34:47 <Bowjob>	capitalizing on BFL's incompetence, same specs
Mar 20 09:35:02 <kakobrekla>	what?
Mar 20 09:35:26 <kakobrekla>	where did you pick that up
Mar 20 09:35:48 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.0
Mar 20 09:36:18 <Bowjob>	there goes my fourth module
Mar 20 09:36:28 <kakobrekla>	they are fucked in the head
Mar 20 09:36:29 <Bowjob>	i wish I picked up 3 lol
Mar 20 09:37:23 <Bowjob>	in other news, sonny and josh are preparing to ship themselves out of town, apparently
Mar 20 09:37:24 <Bowjob>	https://blockchain.info/tx/eb1a3f97ac4579eb4edec99315fb44c9219bdbf7bc180abc5e09590ec93a2b71
Mar 20 09:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	, The price will be obviously much higher than previous, based on the reasonable ROI. The price is 88 BTC to 115 BTC(31680 RMB to 41400 RMB) depending on configurations, freight charge not included.
Mar 20 09:37:31 <mircea_popescu>	i dion't get this part
Mar 20 09:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	obviously why ?
Mar 20 09:37:43 <kakobrekla>	obviously china
Mar 20 09:37:53 <Bowjob>	thye are pegging the price to yuan
Mar 20 09:37:54 <Bowjob>	instead of dollar
Mar 20 09:38:01 <Bowjob>	so 360 yuan = 1 btc
Mar 20 09:38:10 <Bowjob>	making the price around 5 grand, over
Mar 20 09:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	get to the obvious part tho
Mar 20 09:38:36 <kakobrekla>	they are stabbing themselfs in the face
Mar 20 09:38:37 <ThickAsThieves>	obvious that people will pay that much
Mar 20 09:38:49 <Bowjob>	they have monopoly on asics, go figure
Mar 20 09:38:51 <Bowjob>	bfl wont ship
Mar 20 09:38:52 <Bowjob>	ect
Mar 20 09:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	this is not how you get a monopoly.
Mar 20 09:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	bah.
Mar 20 09:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	everyone is either a scammer, stupid, or a stupid scammer.
Mar 20 09:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	hwo the fuck are we going to get anywhere :(
Mar 20 09:39:20 <Bowjob>	well, its apparent people will still pay for this..
Mar 20 09:39:22 <ThickAsThieves>	they are mining with every machine for a while before they even ship it
Mar 20 09:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Mar 20 09:39:33 <ThickAsThieves>	they are raking in btc, they can do what they want i guess
Mar 20 09:39:47 <Bowjob>	its just asicminer vs avalon
Mar 20 09:39:51 <Bowjob>	until someone comes along
Mar 20 09:39:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00075613 = 2.4952 BTC [+]
Mar 20 09:40:17 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer hashing is supposed to skyrocket in the next few weeks right?
Mar 20 09:42:20 <kakobrekla>	well
Mar 20 09:42:24 <kakobrekla>	avalon can go fuck themselfs
Mar 20 09:43:19 <BitHub>	agreed
Mar 20 09:44:05 <BitHub>	i've never seen so much greed so quickly in such a young industry
Mar 20 09:44:14 <BitHub>	this shit might burn out in 5 years
Mar 20 09:45:04 <Bowjob>	well, if they really are greedy, they wouldn't have shipped asics to the public
Mar 20 09:45:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 207 @ 0.004 = 0.828 BTC [+]
Mar 20 09:46:08 <Bowjob>	of course, there goes my plan for 5 more ASICS
Mar 20 09:46:42 <kakobrekla>	boxes should be getting cheaper not expenciver
Mar 20 09:46:49 <ThickAsThieves>	"Only a small amount of units will be shipped during late March to early April"
Mar 20 09:46:52 <kakobrekla>	its the other way around ngz.
Mar 20 09:46:58 <kakobrekla>	what a retard.
Mar 20 09:47:22 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 20 09:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin needs an asic maker.
Mar 20 09:47:36 <jurov>	CoinBr.iDiff-O May will open soon, what collateral (max.feasible difficulty) are you seeing by May 22?
Mar 20 09:47:39 <ThickAsThieves>	why the hell doesnt AMD do it
Mar 20 09:47:57 <ThickAsThieves>	they are selling ass tons of GPUs to the sector
Mar 20 09:48:04 <ThickAsThieves>	even still for litecoin
Mar 20 09:48:17 <ThickAsThieves>	why not make some consumer cards for mining
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Mar 20 09:48:32 <Bowjob>	litecoin is unusually stable lately
Mar 20 09:48:34 <Bowjob>	50 cents
Mar 20 09:48:35 <kakobrekla>	cause all the bitcoin ppl is an insignificat fraction
Mar 20 09:48:35 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 20 09:48:36 <kakobrekla>	of their biz
Mar 20 09:48:46 <jurov>	AMD has year or so turnaround
Mar 20 09:49:05 <Bowjob>	and few people has heard of btc
Mar 20 09:49:13 <Bowjob>	we are actually the early adopters
Mar 20 09:49:15 <ThickAsThieves>	kako, how much $ do you think has been spent and will be spent on ASICS this year
Mar 20 09:49:26 <ThickAsThieves>	not enought o make AMD some money?
Mar 20 09:49:31 <kakobrekla>	nope
Mar 20 09:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00075613 = 0.189 BTC [+]
Mar 20 09:50:26 <Bowjob>	those avalon asics.. they are compatible with NA sockets right
Mar 20 09:50:33 <Bowjob>	i wont need some chinese transformer
Mar 20 09:51:28 <kakobrekla>	NA?
Mar 20 09:51:39 <Bowjob>	north america
Mar 20 09:51:41 <Bowjob>	us and canada
Mar 20 09:51:46 <kakobrekla>	prolly
Mar 20 09:52:00 <zerokwel>	psu should be auto switching
Mar 20 09:52:12 <jurov>	wtf, they don't have detachable cord?
Mar 20 09:52:29 <zerokwel>	yepp standard kettle lead
Mar 20 09:55:58 <jurov>	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/19/carna_botnet_ipv4_internet_map/ seems 420000 node botnet isn't so hard to build after all
Mar 20 09:57:26 <jurov>	mircea_popescu ^^^
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Mar 20 09:58:59 <jurov>	guess that's ripe for worldwide ban to sell any hardware with preconfigured default password
Mar 20 09:59:48 <mircea_popescu>	ffs
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Mar 20 10:02:39 <Bowjob>	why do girls do this
Mar 20 10:02:39 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/msly2x0.jpg?1
Mar 20 10:03:03 <BitHub>	attention
Mar 20 10:03:33 <ThickAsThieves>	tell her she's not ugly
Mar 20 10:03:36 <ThickAsThieves>	thats what she wants
Mar 20 10:03:41 <Bowjob>	I told her, looks don;t matter
Mar 20 10:03:41 <BitHub>	no
Mar 20 10:03:51 <BitHub>	tell her she's okey looking
Mar 20 10:03:52 <Bowjob>	heh, that must hurt
Mar 20 10:03:59 <BitHub>	but looks aren't the most important
Mar 20 10:04:03 <Bowjob>	"It's okay, looks aren't everything."
Mar 20 10:04:05 <Bowjob>	xD
Mar 20 10:04:13 <ThickAsThieves>	tell her its hard to tell with all those clothes on
Mar 20 10:04:14 <BitHub>	she'll be begging for your approval
Mar 20 10:04:42 <BitHub>	nicely played bow
Mar 20 10:05:08 <Bowjob>	of course. that was the perfect answer.
Mar 20 10:05:20 <BitHub>	yep
Mar 20 10:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	so is coinlab move complete ?
Mar 20 10:05:49 <BitHub>	yes operation destroy bitcoin is in play
Mar 20 10:06:18 <ThickAsThieves>	"'m hugely excited to announce to you that CoinLab will be teaming up with Mt. Gox and Silicon Valley Bank to provide Bitcoin purchase, sale and exchange services to customers in the U.S and Canada as of March 31, 2013."
Mar 20 10:06:32 <ThickAsThieves>	he has a big boner over this
Mar 20 10:06:38 <BitHub>	they were the only ones
Mar 20 10:06:51 <BitHub>	wasn't it a lie? Their press release
Mar 20 10:07:05 <ThickAsThieves>	a lie?
Mar 20 10:07:07 <BitHub>	isn't gox being pressured into this deal with coinlab?
Mar 20 10:07:18 <ThickAsThieves>	gox confirmed i think
Mar 20 10:07:38 <BitHub>	sorry i mean the whole wallstreet fluff
Mar 20 10:10:41 <ThickAsThieves>	you lost me
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Mar 20 10:10:52 <ThickAsThieves>	coinlab is taking over all of gox's US customers
Mar 20 10:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154722.0 this has all sorts of epic in it
Mar 20 10:11:02 <ThickAsThieves>	gox confirmed this in a short press release
Mar 20 10:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons ^
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Mar 20 10:11:19 <Bowjob>	"Ok, people would take you more seriously if you meant what you said, just so you know.  The offer is real though.  Peace" -dank
Mar 20 10:11:29 <Bowjob>	I told dank I would give him 3 BTC for a motorcycle
Mar 20 10:11:40 <Bowjob>	he sends me an address, I told him, I already got one for 2 BTC.
Mar 20 10:11:59 <ThickAsThieves>	a $120 motorcycle?
Mar 20 10:12:03 <ThickAsThieves>	nice ride
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Mar 20 10:13:03 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 20 10:14:26 <Bowjob>	He's selling music festival passes now
Mar 20 10:14:27 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155359.msg1647154#msg1647154
Mar 20 10:14:32 <Bowjob>	get yours today!
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Mar 20 10:19:57 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 20 10:20:00 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 226941 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 866 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 17 hours, 34 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6205279.45368 | Estimated Percent Change: 28.006
Mar 20 10:20:06 <jurov>	uh oh
Mar 20 10:21:46 <jurov>	so i'll reap profit both from iDiff-O and from its bitbet hedge? lmao
Mar 20 10:29:53 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe avalon is pricing high because they want less work for the same money
Mar 20 10:30:00 <ThickAsThieves>	pruning clients
Mar 20 10:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4103 = 1.6412 BTC [+]
Mar 20 10:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4102 BTC [-]
Mar 20 10:30:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4102 BTC [-]
Mar 20 10:30:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.41000001 = 4.1 BTC [-]
Mar 20 10:30:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.41 = 1.64 BTC [-]
Mar 20 10:31:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 48796 @ 0.004 = 195.184 BTC [+]
Mar 20 10:33:20 <Bowjob>	i assume a 4th module will cost 22 BTC?
Mar 20 10:33:39 <Bowjob>	$1300+ for a module that hashes 22 gh
Mar 20 10:33:41 <Bowjob>	yikes
Mar 20 10:35:03 <Diablo-D3>	avalon sells by USD not BTC
Mar 20 10:35:09 <Diablo-D3>	so they probably havent adjusted their pricing yet
Mar 20 10:35:16 <Diablo-D3>	the three module avalons were selling for $1300
Mar 20 10:35:36 <Bowjob>	wrong
Mar 20 10:35:40 <Bowjob>	by yuan
Mar 20 10:35:45 <Bowjob>	not pegged to usd
Mar 20 10:35:47 <Bowjob>	anymore
Mar 20 10:35:55 <Diablo-D3>	same difference
Mar 20 10:36:02 <Bowjob>	no
Mar 20 10:36:49 <Diablo-D3>	the yuan is not massively deflating
Mar 20 10:36:53 <Diablo-D3>	so yes, its the same thing
Mar 20 10:37:54 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.0
Mar 20 10:38:34 <Bowjob>	well its by btc now actually
Mar 20 10:38:34 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 20 10:40:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.33318 = 1.3327 BTC [-]
Mar 20 10:40:43 <jurov>	btw, finally got a bet approved: http://bitbet.us/bet/314/bitcointalk-org-treasurer-to-be-scammer-tagged/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc
Mar 20 10:41:48 <usagi>	Doesn't that fall under badbet guidelines since it depends on the commission of a crime?
Mar 20 10:42:54 <jurov>	getting scammer tag isnt necessarily result of a crime
Mar 20 10:43:16 <ThickAsThieves>	scamming isn't a crime?
Mar 20 10:43:32 <iz>	getting the tag isn't
Mar 20 10:43:52 <usagi>	Well it sounds like an interesting bet, but it would be easy to throw the bet so I am suprised it got accepted
Mar 20 10:44:01 <Bowjob>	http://s23.postimage.org/rr8hyldu3/avalon.jpg
Mar 20 10:44:04 <jurov>	if it was "treasurer to be convicted" that would be another matter
Mar 20 10:44:05 <iz>	yeah, seems easy to throw it
Mar 20 10:49:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.004 = 3.6 BTC [+]
Mar 20 10:49:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.004 = 5 BTC [+]
Mar 20 10:49:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.004 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Mar 20 10:51:48 <Bowjob>	dice
Mar 20 10:51:50 <Bowjob>	what are u doin
Mar 20 10:51:52 <Bowjob>	stahp
Mar 20 10:52:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 395 @ 0.004 = 1.58 BTC [+]
Mar 20 10:54:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.004 = 1.2 BTC [+]
Mar 20 10:54:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 19000 @ 0.004 = 76 BTC [+]
Mar 20 11:00:04 <kakobrekla>	im not sure avalon will sell 600 units at 100 btc
Mar 20 11:00:21 <kakobrekla>	kinda doubt it
Mar 20 11:00:26 <kakobrekla>	mebbe time for a bet
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Mar 20 11:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.011 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 11:04:03 <Bowjob>	kako, ahead of you
Mar 20 11:04:04 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 20 11:05:33 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 20 11:05:38 <kakobrekla>	your bet is will be sold out in 1 day?
Mar 20 11:06:21 <BitHub>	wooo asicminer share
Mar 20 11:06:44 <Bowjob>	yap
Mar 20 11:06:48 <Bowjob>	24 hrs
Mar 20 11:07:09 <BitHub>	div*
Mar 20 11:07:17 <Bowjob>	should it be 3 days then?
Mar 20 11:08:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8568 BTC [-]
Mar 20 11:08:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.8568 = 7.7112 BTC [-]
Mar 20 11:08:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.857 = 3.428 BTC [+]
Mar 20 11:09:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.858995 = 6.013 BTC [+]
Mar 20 11:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00075263 = 5.3437 BTC [-]
Mar 20 11:11:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00074912 = 2.1724 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 11:14:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 10 @ 0.09682584 = 0.9683 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 11:28:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.858994 = 2.577 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 11:40:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 124 @ 0.00393432 = 0.4879 BTC [-]
Mar 20 11:41:09 <Chaang-Noi>	rally?
Mar 20 11:41:15 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck yeah
Mar 20 11:41:40 <Chaang-Noi>	keep it going
Mar 20 11:41:42 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 20 11:41:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.80000, Best ask: 59.80560, Bid-ask spread: 0.00560, Last trade: 59.80000, 24 hour volume: 71444.29658211, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 60.88800, 24 hour vwap: 57.89681
Mar 20 11:41:50 <Bowjob>	what rally
Mar 20 11:42:01 <Chaang-Noi>	we are at 61.97
Mar 20 11:42:05 <Chaang-Noi>	62
Mar 20 11:42:16 <Chaang-Noi>	new ATH
Mar 20 11:42:17 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 11:42:18 <gribble>	104.355169 seconds
Mar 20 11:42:18 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck yeah
Mar 20 11:42:27 <Chaang-Noi>	62.57
Mar 20 11:42:30 <Chaang-Noi>	oh fuck
Mar 20 11:42:39 <Chaang-Noi>	63
Mar 20 11:42:46 <Chaang-Noi>	dead 63
Mar 20 11:42:53 <Chaang-Noi>	63.4
Mar 20 11:43:01 <Chaang-Noi>	63.7
Mar 20 11:43:02 <Bowjob>	holy shit
Mar 20 11:43:22 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 20 11:43:34 <mod6>	haha, look at the lag
Mar 20 11:43:36 <mod6>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 11:43:37 <gribble>	45.834547 seconds
Mar 20 11:43:42 <mod6>	oh went way down
Mar 20 11:43:48 <Chaang-Noi>	63.78
Mar 20 11:44:05 <Chaang-Noi>	dows cuz no debth
Mar 20 11:44:38 <Bowjob>	this makes the avalol delay a bit more bearable
Mar 20 11:44:53 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, esp cuz i hold asicminer stock
Mar 20 11:45:30 <Bowjob>	ltc asicminer, btc
Mar 20 11:45:38 <Bowjob>	you're on a roll
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Mar 20 11:46:22 <Bowjob>	back to 61
Mar 20 11:47:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.858993 = 6.8719 BTC [-]
Mar 20 11:47:32 <ThickAsThieves>	Chaang, do you work the ups and downs at BTC-e for litecoin?
Mar 20 11:47:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i hold btc, ltc and asicminer, and yeah im on fucking fire this months
Mar 20 11:47:53 <kakobrekla>	careful you dont burn out
Mar 20 11:47:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i used to, i got over 200k ltc for free that way
Mar 20 11:48:02 <Chaang-Noi>	but i quit after we broke 20 cents
Mar 20 11:48:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold 80k or so over .01 and if i get to buy back in i will
Mar 20 11:48:30 <Chaang-Noi>	but im looking for .008ish or less
Mar 20 11:49:35 <Bowjob>	you can crash it yousel.. ltc holders are lemminhs
Mar 20 11:49:38 <Bowjob>	lemmings
Mar 20 11:49:41 <smickles_>	yay, i'm back :)
Mar 20 11:49:43 <Bowjob>	you can buy buck cheaper
Mar 20 11:49:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold 50k at .01 trying to stop it
Mar 20 11:50:07 <Chaang-Noi>	then i did crash it to .01 but it has not gone down much
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Mar 20 11:50:26 <Bowjob>	its very steady at 50c ea
Mar 20 11:50:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i played with crashing and pumping some this week
Mar 20 11:50:42 <Chaang-Noi>	you need like 200k just to move it and keep it
Mar 20 11:50:45 <ThickAsThieves>	overall money can be made if you arent too aggresive
Mar 20 11:50:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 8 @ 0.29453842 = 2.3563 BTC [+]
Mar 20 11:51:03 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i just thought id better quit for now
Mar 20 11:51:03 <ThickAsThieves>	we shold start a circle of market movers
Mar 20 11:51:10 <ThickAsThieves>	and just control it
Mar 20 11:51:22 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 20 11:51:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i know some big holders but... im not sure that is good for ltc over all
Mar 20 11:51:33 <Bowjob>	i wish i didnt dump 10k ltc
Mar 20 11:51:33 <ThickAsThieves>	good if we dont dump
Mar 20 11:51:35 <Bowjob>	oh well
Mar 20 11:51:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i have a bit more to dump, im holding 84000 for a long time
Mar 20 11:51:53 <ThickAsThieves>	hmm
Mar 20 11:52:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i got 50k to dump at 1$ or so
Mar 20 11:52:01 <ThickAsThieves>	what if i start an ltc buying fun
Mar 20 11:52:04 <ThickAsThieves>	fund
Mar 20 11:52:06 <kakobrekla>	yeah ltc is nice, it shows true value of btc
Mar 20 11:52:19 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc shows the true value of crypto
Mar 20 11:52:24 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Mar 20 11:52:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i hold more btc than ltc (in usd value)
Mar 20 11:53:08 <Chaang-Noi>	im a btc guy, but i saw an opertunity in ltc and i took it
Mar 20 11:53:31 <kakobrekla>	you are also not a finance guy or something
Mar 20 11:53:34 <kakobrekla>	so dunno
Mar 20 11:53:39 <kakobrekla>	sock on head.
Mar 20 11:53:44 <Chaang-Noi>	mp's girl thinks im not
Mar 20 11:53:54 <Chaang-Noi>	but i dont care lulz
Mar 20 11:54:22 <kakobrekla>	>I don't do finance
Mar 20 11:54:27 <kakobrekla>	that from your mouth
Mar 20 11:54:29 <kakobrekla>	thats
Mar 20 11:54:39 <Chaang-Noi>	yes, but you forgot the wink
Mar 20 11:55:02 <kakobrekla>	i interpret it as "im being honest here"
Mar 20 11:55:14 <Chaang-Noi>	notice how the moves end at 7/8 of a dollar every time?
Mar 20 11:55:24 <Chaang-Noi>	wink
Mar 20 11:55:28 <Bowjob>	well, we are the new banking overlords
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Mar 20 11:55:49 <kakobrekla>	calm down Bowjob
Mar 20 11:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00075613 = 2.933 BTC [+]
Mar 20 11:55:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1649 @ 0.00075702 = 1.2483 BTC [+]
Mar 20 11:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13172 @ 0.00076717 = 10.1052 BTC [+]
Mar 20 11:56:05 <Bowjob>	im pretty calm
Mar 20 11:56:19 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah will shit himself once btc is 1000:)
Mar 20 11:56:21 <kakobrekla>	tune your masturbation amount, its is not correct
Mar 20 11:56:26 <kakobrekla>	try less or more
Mar 20 11:56:36 <kakobrekla>	or was that someone else
Mar 20 11:56:42 <kakobrekla>	sorry if mixed it up
Mar 20 11:56:58 <Chaang-Noi>	that was from your "secret club" last night :)
Mar 20 11:57:16 <kakobrekla>	no its a secret FAN club
Mar 20 11:57:26 <Chaang-Noi>	oh yeah, sorry :)
Mar 20 11:57:41 <kakobrekla>	youd knew that if you were smart investor!
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Mar 20 11:57:54 <Chaang-Noi>	;D
Mar 20 12:00:04 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155260.0
Mar 20 12:00:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.100001 = 1 BTC [-]
Mar 20 12:00:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [-]
Mar 20 12:00:37 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 20 12:00:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.61009, Best ask: 61.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.35991, Last trade: 61.97000, 24 hour volume: 92984.04562603, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 63.78700, 24 hour vwap: 58.91450
Mar 20 12:00:49 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 61*4224
Mar 20 12:00:49 <gribble>	257664
Mar 20 12:01:03 <Chaang-Noi>	its nice they limit the rally
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Mar 20 12:01:15 <Chaang-Noi>	we dont need $150 in 4 days...
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Mar 20 12:04:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000719 = 0.0036 BTC [+]
Mar 20 12:05:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC
Mar 20 12:05:26 <kakobrekla>	>Garrett, are you still considering an Avalon purchase after reading today's news?
Mar 20 12:05:27 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Mar 20 12:05:33 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 20 12:06:12 <Diablo-D3>	what news?
Mar 20 12:06:22 <Chaang-Noi>	62.9
Mar 20 12:06:25 <kakobrekla>	> batch3 will be sold between 80 and 115 BTC
Mar 20 12:06:28 <kakobrekla>	Diablo-D3^^
Mar 20 12:06:44 <Chaang-Noi>	and batch 2 wont ship until end of may right?
Mar 20 12:06:49 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 20 12:06:50 <kakobrekla>	dont care
Mar 20 12:07:01 <Chaang-Noi>	i hold asicminer so i do:)
Mar 20 12:07:02 <kakobrekla>	they are in the BFL club for me now
Mar 20 12:07:13 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl has been dead silent the last week, dad is the key word
Mar 20 12:07:20 <Chaang-Noi>	dead
Mar 20 12:07:43 <mod6>	but Luke-Jr said they're gonna ship!
Mar 20 12:07:49 <kakobrekla>	still you have fury and another chip maker comming out
Mar 20 12:08:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet they will ship sooner or later...
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Mar 20 12:08:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i hear 4 to 6 weeks
Mar 20 12:08:42 <kakobrekla>	hehe
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Mar 20 12:11:44 <Chaang-Noi>	63.79
Mar 20 12:11:53 <Chaang-Noi>	63.99
Mar 20 12:12:16 <Chaang-Noi>	64,889
Mar 20 12:12:23 <Chaang-Noi>	65
Mar 20 12:12:30 <Chaang-Noi>	there we go
Mar 20 12:12:55 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 65
Mar 20 12:12:56 <gribble>	There are currently 4485.7373 bitcoins offered at or under 65.0 USD, worth 288722.532564 USD in total. | Data vintage: 81.9425 seconds
Mar 20 12:13:05 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 54.66
Mar 20 12:13:06 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 54.66 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 92.4132 seconds
Mar 20 12:13:12 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 64.66
Mar 20 12:13:13 <gribble>	There are currently 2353.8081 bitcoins offered at or under 64.66 USD, worth 150212.942787 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.9168 seconds
Mar 20 12:13:20 <Chaang-Noi>	this bot is slow as fuck
Mar 20 12:17:28 <smickles>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 12:17:29 <gribble>	0.263985 seconds
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Mar 20 12:17:44 <smickles>	;;asks 64.66
Mar 20 12:17:47 <gribble>	There are currently 181.48403 bitcoins offered at or under 64.66 USD, worth 11578.8474952 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Mar 20 12:18:05 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 70
Mar 20 12:18:06 <gribble>	There are currently 17923.735 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 1216110.74987 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.3849 seconds
Mar 20 12:18:12 <Chaang-Noi>	that is not much...
Mar 20 12:18:27 <Chaang-Noi>	the whale is just waiting for suckers to list coins lower...
Mar 20 12:25:12 <Bowjob>	http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3tg8ms/
Mar 20 12:25:38 <Bowjob>	I updated the meme. I told a gaming forum about bitcoins way back then
Mar 20 12:25:45 <Bowjob>	gave them an update, they went holy shit
Mar 20 12:26:57 <benkay>	 sounds like a waste of time
Mar 20 12:27:18 <Bowjob>	they will eventually give up and buy some in the future
Mar 20 12:27:32 <Bowjob>	I just wanna tell them. "I told you so"
Mar 20 12:27:39 <Bowjob>	seems childlish.. ehehehe
Mar 20 12:27:41 <benkay>	on a different topic, someone should put togther a REIT that runs on btc to swoop into shittily-banked countries and swipe their assets out from underneath them at a fraction of their real value because the natives are scared.
Mar 20 12:27:56 <benkay>	like I said, bowjob, waste of time. you could be building a company or something.
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Mar 20 12:29:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 12:29:52 <gribble>	0.753354 seconds
Mar 20 12:29:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 20 12:29:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.75000, Best ask: 64.73000, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 64.73000, 24 hour volume: 91975.92783006, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 59.44622
Mar 20 12:30:13 <Bowjob>	64
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Mar 20 12:31:56 <Chaang-Noi>	just had 64.75
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Mar 20 12:34:47 <Bowjob>	its rainy here
Mar 20 12:35:05 <Bowjob>	heh, i accidentally wore my pants backwards
Mar 20 12:35:11 <Bowjob>	apparently its insanely good luck
Mar 20 12:35:22 <ThickAsThieves>	chaang ltc might dip into your Buy zone
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Mar 20 12:35:53 <Chaang-Noi>	under .009
Mar 20 12:36:04 <Bowjob>	yeap its under 8
Mar 20 12:36:07 <Bowjob>	i mean 9
Mar 20 12:36:20 <Chaang-Noi>	my eye is on it
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Mar 20 12:37:58 <Bowjob>	I kinda feel bad for people who borrow BTC
Mar 20 12:38:15 <Bowjob>	they'll get gored by the bull
Mar 20 12:38:34 <smickles>	Bowjob: i just had someone ask me to lend to them when wer were ~10 bucks lower
Mar 20 12:38:54 <Bowjob>	I lent 3 BTC to a reputable person, I hope they make profit on it
Mar 20 12:39:02 <Bowjob>	thats when BTC was 58 bucks
Mar 20 12:39:24 <Bowjob>	in two weeks, BTC may well be $75
Mar 20 12:39:25 <Bowjob>	ea
Mar 20 12:39:43 <Chaang-Noi>	$100 before end of month
Mar 20 12:40:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 63 @ 0.00396 = 0.2495 BTC [-]
Mar 20 12:40:13 <Bowjob>	it was way more exciting when i was broke
Mar 20 12:40:17 <Bowjob>	living on 10 bucks a day
Mar 20 12:40:18 <Bowjob>	heh
Mar 20 12:40:32 <Bowjob>	when i got my first paycheck
Mar 20 12:40:34 <Bowjob>	for 840 dollars
Mar 20 12:40:40 <Bowjob>	felt like a million bucks
Mar 20 12:40:56 *	rdponticelli_ is now known as rdponticelli
Mar 20 12:41:18 <Chaang-Noi>	;;8ball when goat dies will he get 72 virgins?
Mar 20 12:41:19 <gribble>	Maybe...
Mar 20 12:41:22 <Chaang-Noi>	meh
Mar 20 12:41:29 <kakobrekla>	want the old exciting way of life back?
Mar 20 12:41:30 <Troic_>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 20 12:41:31 <kakobrekla>	1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE
Mar 20 12:41:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00381798 / 0.00413145 / 0.005 (160717 shares, 663.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00381798 / 0.00444285 / 0.00599987 (232474 shares, 1,032.85 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00596521 / 0.0069 (2433117 shares, 14,514.06 BTC)
Mar 20 12:41:46 <Bowjob>	Nah, I'm better off like this
Mar 20 12:41:47 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 20 12:41:52 <kakobrekla>	cmon
Mar 20 12:41:53 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: man, I wanna vanitygen that
Mar 20 12:41:55 <kakobrekla>	eater is hungry
Mar 20 12:42:01 <Bowjob>	the old exciting life.. ughh
Mar 20 12:42:11 <Bowjob>	10 bucks a day. walk to school
Mar 20 12:42:13 <Bowjob>	no money for bus
Mar 20 12:42:41 <Bowjob>	Well, even at 10 bucks a day, I managed to save like $500 without starving myself
Mar 20 12:42:57 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Mar 20 12:42:59 <Diablo-D3>	you wanna save money?
Mar 20 12:43:01 <Diablo-D3>	go paleo
Mar 20 12:43:05 <Bowjob>	paleo?
Mar 20 12:43:16 <kakobrekla>	go amish
Mar 20 12:43:18 <jurov>	or soylent :)
Mar 20 12:43:22 <Bowjob>	im pretty loaded right now, both fiat and btc
Mar 20 12:43:53 <Bowjob>	i wish id appreciate 10 bucks today like 10 bucks back then
Mar 20 12:43:56 <Bowjob>	its just.. inflation
Mar 20 12:44:18 <Bowjob>	and its just been 3 years, i can feel the price go up
Mar 20 12:44:23 <Chaang-Noi>	mt gox is broken
Mar 20 12:44:32 <Chaang-Noi>	fucking gox
Mar 20 12:44:33 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 20 12:44:36 <Bowjob>	what else is new
Mar 20 12:44:37 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 20 12:44:38 <kakobrekla>	ima gonna put btc/usd in mt4
Mar 20 12:44:43 <kakobrekla>	problem solved
Mar 20 12:44:57 <Chaang-Noi>	if i gave mt gox $100k usd think they could fix this?
Mar 20 12:45:05 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 20 12:45:08 <kakobrekla>	are you a comedian
Mar 20 12:45:16 <kakobrekla>	you should hang out with usagi
Mar 20 12:45:36 <Chaang-Noi>	i know, they will need much much more
Mar 20 12:45:41 <Bowjob>	mt gox makes way more than $100k
Mar 20 12:45:41 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 20 12:45:57 <kakobrekla>	they are unfixable
Mar 20 12:46:04 <Chaang-Noi>	kako i just be trollin, its what i do for a living
Mar 20 12:46:12 <kakobrekla>	pays good?
Mar 20 12:46:32 <Chaang-Noi>	i could not make more money at anything else, so i guess so
Mar 20 12:46:57 <Bowjob>	u do it at a bar
Mar 20 12:46:59 <Chaang-Noi>	but really... gox...
Mar 20 12:47:13 <Chaang-Noi>	when i go to a bar im the silent guy in the corner
Mar 20 12:47:36 <kakobrekla>	but in the trollbox
Mar 20 12:47:37 <Chaang-Noi>	that all the hot girls go to and wai, and all the thai guys are like wtf?  ;D
Mar 20 12:47:39 <kakobrekla>	hes the big boss
Mar 20 12:47:53 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, in this box, im just an average fish
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Mar 20 12:48:06 <Bowjob>	gah. i want a new coat
Mar 20 12:48:16 <kakobrekla>	i want new goat
Mar 20 12:48:20 <Bowjob>	its freezing here in vancouver
Mar 20 12:48:29 <Chaang-Noi>	that is the last thing i want (a coat) i could use a goat.. grass is tall
Mar 20 12:48:31 <Bowjob>	id reckon spring and fall is actually colder than winter
Mar 20 12:48:42 <Bowjob>	winter is just.. idk lol. not as cold
Mar 20 12:48:55 <kakobrekla>	all the snow makes it warm.
Mar 20 12:48:58 <Chaang-Noi>	once i get a million usd im going to anartica, andyone else have plans for 1 million usd?
Mar 20 12:49:26 <kakobrekla>	meh antartica
Mar 20 12:49:33 <Bowjob>	ant arc tica
Mar 20 12:49:54 <Chaang-Noi>	iv never been
Mar 20 12:50:19 <Bowjob>	yeah, snow makes for warmer surroundings oddly enough
Mar 20 12:50:35 <Bowjob>	the wind just freezes me inside
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Mar 20 12:54:12 <Bowjob>	are Cypriot banks still closed?
Mar 20 12:54:21 <kakobrekla>	afaik ya
Mar 20 12:54:36 <jurov>	and they will likely stay closed longer
Mar 20 12:54:37 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, will they ever open again?
Mar 20 12:54:56 <Chaang-Noi>	we need a bitbet 4 that
Mar 20 12:54:58 <jurov>	prolly after their parliament reaches some decision
Mar 20 12:55:03 <Chaang-Noi>	banks open by april 1st or so
Mar 20 12:55:53 <Chaang-Noi>	can anyone remember when btc broke 50? seems like yesterday
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Mar 20 12:57:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 12:57:29 <gribble>	1.244448 seconds
Mar 20 12:57:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 20 12:57:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.25002, Best ask: 63.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.22998, Last trade: 64.05000, 24 hour volume: 86416.29418274, 24 hour low: 53.60931, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 59.92861
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Mar 20 12:58:10 <Chaang-Noi>	that ticker right?
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Mar 20 12:58:20 <Chaang-Noi>	hi ineededausername
Mar 20 12:58:29 <ineededausername>	hi goat :)
Mar 20 12:58:41 <jurov>	kakobrekla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ao5eg/today_i_learned_you_can_use_mt4_for_bitcoin/
Mar 20 13:00:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33318 = 0.9995 BTC [-]
Mar 20 13:00:15 <kakobrekla>	you cant use it to trade btc/usd pair (yet)
Mar 20 13:00:28 <kakobrekla>	hes prolly confused about that
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Mar 20 13:00:43 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 20 13:00:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.48000, Best ask: 63.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 63.48000, 24 hour volume: 86370.84658881, 24 hour low: 53.60931, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 59.93938
Mar 20 13:00:49 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 13:00:50 <gribble>	2.22098 seconds
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Mar 20 13:01:22 <jurov>	kako i know, just that you may want to comment there
Mar 20 13:01:43 <kakobrekla>	by their standards ima scammer
Mar 20 13:01:49 <kakobrekla>	who gives
Mar 20 13:01:49 <jurov>	it took me a while to understand how btc is used on bit4x
Mar 20 13:02:24 <jurov>	oooh, me too. still have screenshot of how was coinbr announcement received by reddit
Mar 20 13:02:30 <jurov>	for shits and giggles
Mar 20 13:02:37 <kakobrekla>	heh
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Mar 20 13:03:49 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 20 13:03:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.50002, Best ask: 64.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49998, Last trade: 64.00000, 24 hour volume: 86281.05475386, 24 hour low: 53.60931, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 59.95506
Mar 20 13:05:24 <Chaang-Noi>	<amphipod> Mar20 17:04:03 mtgox      x5   100.0000 @    64.00246812 USD    life
Mar 20 13:05:30 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 20 13:05:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.50003, Best ask: 64.42999, Bid-ask spread: 0.92996, Last trade: 64.43000, 24 hour volume: 86359.93202852, 24 hour low: 53.60931, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 59.96982
Mar 20 13:05:41 <Bowjob>	fun shit
Mar 20 13:05:43 <ineededausername>	whoosh
Mar 20 13:05:48 <ineededausername>	going to 100!
Mar 20 13:05:55 <ineededausername>	;;bc,price
Mar 20 13:05:55 <gribble>	Next Price Estimate: 70.872978 | Next Price In About 2 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes, and 14 seconds
Mar 20 13:06:01 <ineededausername>	ok, maybe only 70 ;)
Mar 20 13:06:15 <Bowjob>	the mpex OIX is so wrong
Mar 20 13:06:16 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 20 13:06:25 <Bowjob>	it said $39 or something
Mar 20 13:06:25 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 20 13:06:58 <jcpham>	look it inau
Mar 20 13:07:03 <jurov>	what do you think, will mp manage to add new options before price crosses 75?
Mar 20 13:07:09 <jcpham>	gtfoff my rocket inau
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Mar 20 13:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.0007499 = 8.1364 BTC [-]
Mar 20 13:07:49 <jurov>	wtb C5000N
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Mar 20 13:13:17 <mod6>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 20 13:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  / 57.56498348 / 57.56498348 (6790 shares, 792.60 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 20 13:14:51 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 20 13:14:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.68001, Best ask: 63.79500, Bid-ask spread: 0.11499, Last trade: 63.79500, 24 hour volume: 85046.90197713, 24 hour low: 55.10000, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 60.10183
Mar 20 13:15:19 <Bowjob>	$65 is the ath
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Mar 20 13:20:58 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 20 13:20:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.38002, Best ask: 63.60130, Bid-ask spread: 0.22128, Last trade: 63.38002, 24 hour volume: 85696.78091179, 24 hour low: 55.30001, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 60.17280
Mar 20 13:21:12 <Bowjob>	im thinking of a black aventador/ mhm
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Mar 20 13:30:02 <kakobrekla>	lol reddit jurov, one idiot bigger than the other
Mar 20 13:30:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.004 = 7.2 BTC [+]
Mar 20 13:30:52 <jurov>	how do you mean "reddit jurov, one idiot bigger than the other" ?
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Mar 20 13:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 18481 @ 0.004 = 73.924 BTC [+]
Mar 20 13:31:37 <kakobrekla>	commenting the comment posted on that forex thread or whatever the thing is called on reddit
Mar 20 13:32:37 <jurov>	okay... just got alternative meaning of that sentence first
Mar 20 13:32:45 <jurov>	:D
Mar 20 13:32:48 <pigeons>	usagi is offline now but he sent me a query that he's upset because he claimed i lied to him because he told me not to post the spreadsheet to a public web page or post it to the forum
Mar 20 13:33:07 <pigeons>	and he claims I sent derived an edited copy, which I did not
Mar 20 13:33:15 <smickles>	pigeons: what link did i miss
Mar 20 13:33:19 <kakobrekla>	you say it was a mistake
Mar 20 13:33:24 <jcpham>	hey pigeons guess who i believe
Mar 20 13:33:29 <kakobrekla>	he prolly ment please YES post it
Mar 20 13:33:32 <jcpham>	i bet you'll never guess
Mar 20 13:33:53 <pigeons>	smickles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.120
Mar 20 13:34:09 <jcpham>	pigeons always starting drama on the forums
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Mar 20 13:34:15 <jcpham>	u cray pigeons
Mar 20 13:34:30 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: i didnt post it, i sent it to deprived who posted an except of the part that shows he calculates exactly what a share is worth a knows its 100% overpriced
Mar 20 13:34:45 <kakobrekla>	aha k
Mar 20 13:34:50 <pigeons>	and i didnt send an edited version of course, why would i do that?
Mar 20 13:36:04 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 20 13:36:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.004805 = 0.024 BTC [+]
Mar 20 13:36:18 <Chaang-Noi>	okay in a few days ill pay for the next share:)
Mar 20 13:36:36 <pigeons>	he says im revoked from access
Mar 20 13:36:44 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, we need a new guy
Mar 20 13:36:58 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think that will be hard to find
Mar 20 13:37:17 <Chaang-Noi>	any i need to sleep, good trading all
Mar 20 13:40:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0007499 = 1.9497 BTC [-]
Mar 20 13:40:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3056 @ 0.00074912 = 2.2893 BTC [-]
Mar 20 13:40:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 592 @ 0.00074461 = 0.4408 BTC [-]
Mar 20 13:40:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 652 @ 0.0007446 = 0.4855 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 13:41:55 <jurov>	so,all s.dice @0.004 gone, what shall i do with the stash? wait for divs?
Mar 20 13:42:23 <jurov>	or for whale
Mar 20 13:42:28 <mod6>	buy low, sell high
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Mar 20 13:43:44 <mod6>	looks like .003 is a good support level in ther
Mar 20 13:43:46 <mod6>	*there
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Mar 20 13:44:44 <jurov>	heh nobody wants to sell less than 66% of ipo price
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Mar 20 13:45:45 <jurov>	would move it to bf and sell there, if g.sdice wasn't ghost town :(
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Mar 20 13:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.856 BTC [-]
Mar 20 13:47:08 <jurov>	btc grows too fast, ruins stock trade :( haha
Mar 20 13:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.494 = 1.482 BTC [+]
Mar 20 13:49:00 <smickles>	soebot up and running again :)
Mar 20 13:49:10 <smickles>	nasty overflow error
Mar 20 13:49:10 <jborkl>	on tu silver - i looked at that report
Mar 20 13:49:25 <jborkl>	80 oz * 28 / 63
Mar 20 13:49:26 <jurov>	$markov usagi
Mar 20 13:49:26 <mpexbot>	jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 20 13:49:31 <jurov>	oh that's other bot
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Mar 20 13:49:38 <smickles>	$markov
Mar 20 13:49:38 <mpexbot>	i can see you with half you face painted blue right now, mircea_popescu
Mar 20 13:50:01 <jborkl>	35 bitcoins miuns debt applied of 46 btc
Mar 20 13:50:10 <smickles>	jurov: the broken link thing happens when the bot hasn't seen someone start a line with the given word
Mar 20 13:50:20 <smickles>	let's test it
Mar 20 13:50:20 <jborkl>	plus the 3 btc left
Mar 20 13:50:24 <jurov>	$markov i
Mar 20 13:50:25 <mpexbot>	i wasn;t,no
Mar 20 13:50:31 <jurov>	$markov and
Mar 20 13:50:32 <mpexbot>	and trades by email are supported automatically?
Mar 20 13:50:35 <jborkl>	so the fund is worth -8 approx btc?
Mar 20 13:50:36 <smickles>	usagi wanker wanker bumble but
Mar 20 13:50:39 <smickles>	$usagi
Mar 20 13:50:45 <smickles>	$markov usagi
Mar 20 13:50:45 <mpexbot>	smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 20 13:50:48 <smickles>	bah
Mar 20 13:50:53 <smickles>	i dunno then
Mar 20 13:50:57 <jurov>	$markov he
Mar 20 13:50:58 <mpexbot>	jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
Mar 20 13:50:58 <pigeons>	i don't know, he ownse some options on his own shares and some JAH mining shares
Mar 20 13:51:41 <pigeons>	he being TU.SILVER
Mar 20 13:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.484 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 13:54:10 <jborkl>	;;calc -8/800
Mar 20 13:54:11 <gribble>	-0.01
Mar 20 13:54:31 <jborkl>	^ approx value of tu.silver- if I am not missing something
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Mar 20 13:56:02 <benkay>	we need to push people running bitcoin companies on extreme transparency
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Mar 20 13:56:22 <benkay>	verifiable business practices
Mar 20 13:56:47 <benkay>	i'm glad that people on the forum are running usagi through the grinder
Mar 20 13:57:01 <XRPTrader2>	i think the real question is "how many russian mobsters do we need to get to buy bitcoin?" :D
Mar 20 13:57:05 <benkay>	bar needs to be way higher.
Mar 20 13:57:24 <benkay>	need?
Mar 20 13:57:25 <benkay>	zero.
Mar 20 13:57:43 <benkay>	need is such a strong word. typically used by people who don't really understand what it is to need a thing.
Mar 20 13:57:55 <benkay>	like
Mar 20 13:58:01 <benkay>	i need a vpn to do my stuff
Mar 20 13:58:02 <benkay>	wrong
Mar 20 13:58:12 <XRPTrader2>	is reading satire one of your strong points?
Mar 20 13:58:14 <benkay>	just use ssh, and fish through the connections with a coathanger
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Mar 20 13:58:45 <benkay>	ignoring it is.
Mar 20 13:59:27 <benkay>	but while we're on the topic, what was the actual point you were trying to make? i can't read it through all the funny.
Mar 20 14:00:31 <benkay>	(also it turns out i do need a vpn, for efficiency. the thing about using irony online is that you have to explain it to people. hence, "coathanger".)
Mar 20 14:01:50 <pigeons>	i just let them think im stuoid
Mar 20 14:02:18 <benkay>	>>stuoid
Mar 20 14:02:22 <benkay>	;)
Mar 20 14:02:33 <benkay>	thanks for posting the thing, pigeons
Mar 20 14:02:50 <smickles>	;;ident
Mar 20 14:02:50 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Mar 20 14:03:28 <pigeons>	team effort
Mar 20 14:03:52 <benkay>	pass my thanks on to team plz
Mar 20 14:04:04 <smickles>	;;rated usagi
Mar 20 14:04:04 <gribble>	You rated user usagi on Sun Nov 11 18:00:33 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: defaulted on this: http://bitbin.it/nPDQRLME and tries overcome simple facts with appeals to emotion.
Mar 20 14:04:06 <smickles>	;)
Mar 20 14:04:44 <smickles>	aw, bitbinit is down?
Mar 20 14:05:00 <benkay>	naw
Mar 20 14:05:03 <benkay>	just taking a while
Mar 20 14:05:24 <benkay>	wowee
Mar 20 14:05:36 <benkay>	where did he respond to defaulting?
Mar 20 14:05:46 <pigeons>	;;rated usagi
Mar 20 14:05:47 <gribble>	You rated user usagi on Thu Nov 15 13:23:03 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: person strikes me a bit flaky.
Mar 20 14:05:50 <benkay>	or address his failure to pay?
Mar 20 14:05:50 <smickles>	in a forum thread somewhere
Mar 20 14:05:54 <benkay>	baww
Mar 20 14:06:22 <topace>	anyone want to invest in https://www.cavirtex.com? i can do pre-release private invitations -- it goes public tomorrow.
Mar 20 14:06:32 <topace>	it'll be listed on havelock under symbol VTX
Mar 20 14:06:55 <smickles>	benkay: basically, shit was hitting the fan with glbse, I asked him if he'd be able to pay. he said yes, then vanished for a while, defaulted and then said i was heartless
Mar 20 14:07:04 <pigeons>	;;ident topace
Mar 20 14:07:05 <gribble>	Nick 'topace', with hostmask 'topace!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace', is not identified.
Mar 20 14:07:08 <smickles>	I'll find the link for you
Mar 20 14:07:14 <benkay>	no worries
Mar 20 14:07:24 <benkay>	i trust your read on the thing
Mar 20 14:07:53 <benkay>	pigeons, correct me if i'm wrong, but it's bad form to rate someone without having performed a transaction with them
Mar 20 14:08:04 <benkay>	but *I think* that it's bad form...
Mar 20 14:08:09 <pigeons>	benkay: i disagree as does the founder of the web of trust
Mar 20 14:08:14 <smickles>	it's a trust rating
Mar 20 14:08:20 <benkay>	hm
Mar 20 14:08:23 <smickles>	not a done-biz-with rating
Mar 20 14:08:28 <benkay>	hm hm hm
Mar 20 14:08:33 <pigeons>	i used to hold back more, but people have been scammed and i never said anything
Mar 20 14:08:57 <smickles>	also, people have been scammed b/c i didn't rate people
Mar 20 14:09:07 <smickles>	so rate people
Mar 20 14:09:12 <smickles>	it helps others
Mar 20 14:09:25 <benkay>	has anyone done any work on distributing the WoT?
Mar 20 14:09:36 <smickles>	#bitcoin-wot iirc
Mar 20 14:09:50 <pigeons>	benkay: yeah v2 proposal is distributed #bitcoin-wot
Mar 20 14:09:53 <benkay>	thanks
Mar 20 14:10:48 <pigeons>	and i did do business with him , i bought his cdos from mpex and he proceeded to sell all the C out from the DOs and then told me it was impossible for cpa to go bankrupt when i asked him about it
Mar 20 14:11:05 <pigeons>	then went bankrupt
Mar 20 14:11:21 <smickles>	damn
Mar 20 14:11:52 <benkay>	damn pigeons
Mar 20 14:12:01 <benkay>	and you're not rating him for that?
Mar 20 14:12:16 <benkay>	why the "seems flaky" instead of "fucked me hard"?
Mar 20 14:12:22 <pigeons>	i cant even succintly explain all the stupid involved for a rating
Mar 20 14:12:33 <pigeons>	cause that's his problem, he's a fuckin nut
Mar 20 14:12:35 <benkay>	and why just a -1?
Mar 20 14:12:53 <pigeons>	the -1 was at a time when he was working to repay folks
Mar 20 14:13:29 <pigeons>	my rating of usagi is, dude is flaky, warning
Mar 20 14:13:49 <benkay>	hm
Mar 20 14:14:13 <pigeons>	;;rate topace 2
Mar 20 14:14:15 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user topace has been recorded.
Mar 20 14:17:21 <pigeons>	usagi had 3 different risk profiles for his cdos, and he bought OBSI.HYPT (High Yield Pass Through into secret business model now run away with the money) in the EXTREMELY LOW RISK group
Mar 20 14:18:15 <pigeons>	also flat out lied about the valuations. something sells for X and he says "book value" is X * 10 because mining is looking good
Mar 20 14:18:37 <topace>	thanks pigeons :)
Mar 20 14:18:43 <topace>	i should figure out how to auth myself with gribble again
Mar 20 14:18:45 <topace>	been so long
Mar 20 14:19:18 <benkay>	eauth topace
Mar 20 14:19:36 <benkay>	curl whatever | gpg --decrypt
Mar 20 14:20:02 <benkay>	send plaintext to gribble
Mar 20 14:21:13 <topace>	;;ident topace
Mar 20 14:21:14 <gribble>	Nick 'topace', with hostmask 'topace!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace', is identified as user topace, with GPG key id A49472A32D4FCE50, key fingerprint 08AEAC40F3086E6131B39762A49472A32D4FCE50, and bitcoin address None
Mar 20 14:21:38 <topace>	;;getrating topace
Mar 20 14:21:38 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask topace!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace . User topace, rated since Wed Jun  8 15:37:29 2011. Cumulative rating 25, from 10 total ratings. Received ratings: 10 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 6 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=topace
Mar 20 14:22:10 <pigeons>	http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Helper_scripts
Mar 20 14:23:45 <smickles>	$depth s.dice
Mar 20 14:23:46 <mpexbot>	smickles: Bids: ['1576 @ 0.00393432', '5034 @ 0.003198', '805000 @ 0.0031', '116759 @ 0.00100118', '42030 @ 0.00100117']
Mar 20 14:23:47 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['995 @ 0.004805', '201 @ 0.005', '6623 @ 0.0051', '41800 @ 0.0056', '19183 @ 0.00576999']
Mar 20 14:25:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 995 @ 0.004805 = 4.781 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 14:32:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3241 @ 0.00076404 = 2.4763 BTC [+]
Mar 20 14:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 592 @ 0.00076716 = 0.4542 BTC [+]
Mar 20 14:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5059 @ 0.00076717 = 3.8811 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 14:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
Mar 20 14:54:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC
Mar 20 14:57:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00178 = 0.0178 BTC [-]
Mar 20 14:57:42 <dub>	just realised who the bitcoin pride guy is
Mar 20 14:58:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00413 BTC [-]
Mar 20 14:58:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00412 BTC [-]
Mar 20 14:58:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0041 BTC [-]
Mar 20 14:58:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.00369 = 0.0111 BTC [-]
Mar 20 14:58:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00351 = 0.0351 BTC [-]
Mar 20 14:58:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.00328 = 0.0098 BTC [-]
Mar 20 14:58:17 <benkay>	dub, who is he?
Mar 20 14:59:03 <dub>	one of realsolids fan boys or perhaps personalities
Mar 20 14:59:15 <smickles>	ha
Mar 20 14:59:23 <benkay>	wow the shirts on that site are uniformly horrid.
Mar 20 14:59:28 <dub>	one of the top 5 most retarded forum users
Mar 20 15:00:03 <benkay>	bitcoin wifey?
Mar 20 15:00:52 <benkay>	let's just cement the tech community's reputation for misogyny.
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Mar 20 15:01:32 <benkay>	not one "Free the Market, Free the World" shirt.
Mar 20 15:01:35 <smickles>	dub, realsolid on bitcoin: http://memegenerator.net/instance/36422651
Mar 20 15:03:17 <jurov>	BFLievers alert! Difficulty future CoinBr.iDiff-O paid and reissued with 15th May expiration: http://bit.ly/WVtL6x .
Mar 20 15:03:25 <jurov>	Also,CoinBr.iDiff-E sells now at 0.095 only.
Mar 20 15:03:53 <pigeons>	Al Gore is RealSolid?
Mar 20 15:03:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.0099 = 0.099 BTC [+]
Mar 20 15:04:16 <smickles>	no, al gore is a big fan of bitcoins
Mar 20 15:04:34 <mod6>	lol fuck al gore in his ear
Mar 20 15:04:53 <pigeons>	by a big manbearpig
Mar 20 15:04:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 28 @ 0.0099 = 0.2772 BTC [+]
Mar 20 15:05:33 <mod6>	haha
Mar 20 15:08:17 <smickles>	http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15246076.jpg lol
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Mar 20 15:21:56 <mod6>	smickles: hahah
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Mar 20 15:24:48 <dub>	who dat is?
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Mar 20 15:28:47 <smickles>	dub, no idea
Mar 20 15:28:53 <smickles>	1890's guy meme
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Mar 20 15:39:56 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 20 15:39:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.64997, Best ask: 63.64998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 63.64997, 24 hour volume: 80512.67272484, 24 hour low: 57.02000, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 60.83886
Mar 20 15:42:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00499999 BTC [+]
Mar 20 15:42:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.858991 = 1.718 BTC [-]
Mar 20 15:43:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.858991 = 6.8719 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 15:47:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.858991 = 5.1539 BTC [-]
Mar 20 15:52:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858991 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 15:57:18 <ThickAsThieves>	thinking out loud, is it possible asicminer was waiting to increase their hashing a lot until they had met their IPO obligation of .01? Now that they have pretty much reached that, they can start paying themselves half.
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Mar 20 15:58:06 <benkay>	anything's possible.
Mar 20 15:58:07 <ThickAsThieves>	they also mentioned that they might hold back on hashing in the future to try and reduce difficulty changes
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Mar 20 15:58:21 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe those two notions combined
Mar 20 15:58:26 <ThickAsThieves>	add up to something
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Mar 20 16:09:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858 BTC [-]
Mar 20 16:11:58 <jurov>	$91/BTC = "One beeellion dollars"
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Mar 20 16:13:16 <pigeons>	wow, that's like $250/oz in fan club silver
Mar 20 16:13:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 70
Mar 20 16:13:36 <gribble>	There are currently 18945.979 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 1287280.13071 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
Mar 20 16:13:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 69.99
Mar 20 16:13:42 <gribble>	There are currently 18661.56 bitcoins offered at or under 69.99 USD, worth 1267370.78922 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.7516 seconds
Mar 20 16:13:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 65
Mar 20 16:13:57 <gribble>	There are currently 2767.5768 bitcoins offered at or under 65.0 USD, worth 179691.531073 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.2104 seconds
Mar 20 16:14:12 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, stop, ur killing mtgox :)
Mar 20 16:14:59 <smickles>	lol
Mar 20 16:15:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 16:15:20 <gribble>	0.166135 seconds
Mar 20 16:15:27 <ThickAsThieves>	it can take the abuse it seems
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Mar 20 16:18:07 <jurov>	if today someone on the street asked me what bitcoin costs, i'll be liek
Mar 20 16:18:19 <jurov>	$50.. err.. $60... err... lemme check
Mar 20 16:19:05 <kakobrekla>	http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/estimation.png
Mar 20 16:19:09 <kakobrekla>	like this
Mar 20 16:19:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858991 BTC [+]
Mar 20 16:19:55 <benkay>	24hr weighted avg?
Mar 20 16:20:04 <benkay>	24hr weighted avg of biggest exchanges, maybe.
Mar 20 16:20:15 <jurov>	;;vwap
Mar 20 16:20:16 <gribble>	Error: "vwap" is not a valid command.
Mar 20 16:20:20 <benkay>	$vwap
Mar 20 16:20:24 <mpexbot>	benkay: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hayxi7Pw
Mar 20 16:20:25 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 20 16:20:29 <gribble>	60.84
Mar 20 16:20:46 <benkay>	prc?
Mar 20 16:21:06 <jurov>	PRiCe?
Mar 20 16:26:01 <benkay>	volume weighted or anything?
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Mar 20 16:26:18 <benkay>	;;bc,12hprc
Mar 20 16:26:19 <gribble>	Error: "bc,12hprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 20 16:26:25 <benkay>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 20 16:26:27 <gribble>	60.84
Mar 20 16:26:29 <benkay>	hm.
Mar 20 16:26:33 <smickles>	benkay: all markets 24h vwap
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Mar 20 16:26:46 <benkay>	thanks smickles
Mar 20 16:26:47 <jborkl>	smickles, I have some windows user install instructions
Mar 20 16:26:57 <benkay>	documentation's a bit lacking.
Mar 20 16:27:01 <smickles>	jborkl: I'd love to have them :)
Mar 20 16:27:01 <jborkl>	you want me to email it?
Mar 20 16:27:07 <smickles>	please
Mar 20 16:27:13 <jborkl>	ok, np
Mar 20 16:28:25 <smickles>	jborkl: btw, i'm working on improving the appearance of the 'long list' sort of things like bids/asks and the overall market view
Mar 20 16:28:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00076717 = 2.8385 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 16:29:00 <jborkl>	ok, cool- I just got it working- took a break from yesterday.
Mar 20 16:29:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.85899 = 8.5899 BTC [-]
Mar 20 16:29:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.85899 = 1.718 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 16:33:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0111 = 0.0222 BTC [+]
Mar 20 16:34:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.32001 BTC [-]
Mar 20 16:35:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00801 BTC [-]
Mar 20 16:35:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00801 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 16:44:20 <unbalanced>	So is the Fed buying all the Bitcoins up er wot?
Mar 20 16:44:50 <pigeons>	no its algore
Mar 20 16:45:13 <unbalanced>	I hear he invented Bitcoin. Or was it the internet?
Mar 20 16:46:02 <Namworld>	It's ah me, Mario! Buying all the BTC at 1 coin = 1 BTC.
Mar 20 16:46:38 <Namworld>	100 oz giant gold coins I keep collecting everywhere.
Mar 20 16:46:41 <jurov>	ph, algore. wait till billg arrives
Mar 20 16:46:55 <jurov>	the father of internet, universe and everything
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Mar 20 16:47:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3964 @ 0.00076717 = 3.0411 BTC [+]
Mar 20 16:48:15 <unbalanced>	Or is this surge caused by certain Russian "interests" getting their money the heck out of Cyprus?
Mar 20 16:49:34 <billg>	lmao this nick was free!
Mar 20 16:49:54 <unbalanced>	You look taller. Nice suit.
Mar 20 16:50:07 <Namworld>	Occam's razor... those scenarios...
Mar 20 16:50:39 <benkay>	unbalanced
Mar 20 16:50:47 <benkay>	you should grab unbalanced_payments
Mar 20 16:50:54 <benkay>	and make a bitcoin company with that name
Mar 20 16:51:02 <benkay>	confuse the shit out of some people.
Mar 20 16:51:14 <Namworld>	The simplest explanation is a bunch of newcomers hearing of the price going up wants in. Further raising the price... further attracting newcomers.
Mar 20 16:51:29 <Namworld>	The higher the price, the more interest there is from the general population.
Mar 20 16:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00076717 BTC [+]
Mar 20 16:51:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.858989 = 2.577 BTC [-]
Mar 20 16:51:39 <Namworld>	It's gonna burn all the little guys.
Mar 20 16:51:48 <unbalanced>	Great, bring on the Ponzi headines.
Mar 20 16:51:56 <unbalanced>	Again.
Mar 20 16:52:11 <jborkl>	Succesful windows buy smickles- adding to the order book and cancel works alsl
Mar 20 16:52:13 <jborkl>	also
Mar 20 16:52:18 <Namworld>	Well I'm sure Bitcoin is raising in value, regardless of this exponential price rise.
Mar 20 16:52:52 <unbalanced>	OTOH, if this keeps up for 100 more years, I may eventually be rich.
Mar 20 16:52:53 <Namworld>	Just that the current price is mostly fueled by speculation. It is my belief.
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Mar 20 16:53:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.858988 = 1.718 BTC [-]
Mar 20 16:53:32 <billg>	^this is then fueled by what?
Mar 20 16:53:32 <Namworld>	I'm waiting for the price to go down. Even if it doesn't... well I have a fair amount of BTC even if not much.
Mar 20 16:53:37 <MJR_>	see nassim taleb about bitcoins?
Mar 20 16:53:53 <Namworld>	ASICMINER?
Mar 20 16:53:55 <MJR_>	or al gore? awesome
Mar 20 16:54:04 <Namworld>	It's fueled by their massive amount of hashing power.
Mar 20 16:54:25 <MJR_>	hey Namworld !
Mar 20 16:54:32 <MJR_>	:)
Mar 20 16:54:35 <unbalanced>	Namworld: I agree, I don't know where it'll be in a year or 5 but I can't see it back at 2.50.
Mar 20 16:54:54 <Namworld>	yeah, not going to drop at 2.5 again I think...
Mar 20 16:54:57 <MJR_>	loving btc bond
Mar 20 16:55:03 <kakobrekla>	maybe 2.8
Mar 20 16:55:09 <Namworld>	But maybe a low of 15 USD/BTC at the low of the crash.
Mar 20 16:55:12 <unbalanced>	Taleb/Gore said something about Bitcoin? Googling...
Mar 20 16:55:22 <smickles>	jborkl: nice :)
Mar 20 16:55:23 <Namworld>	Maybe then go and stabilize around 30 USD/BTC?
Mar 20 16:55:26 <MJR_>	separately
Mar 20 16:55:32 <Namworld>	Complete bogus speculation on the price anyway.
Mar 20 16:55:36 <Namworld>	Thanks MJR
Mar 20 16:55:57 <Namworld>	I was thinking of slowly buying back tho.
Mar 20 16:56:15 <Namworld>	At least a part of it.
Mar 20 16:56:22 <MJR_>	I hedged by investing dollars to lend at bitfinex
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Mar 20 16:56:32 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 16:56:33 <gribble>	0.158895 seconds
Mar 20 16:57:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858988 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 16:58:57 <Namworld>	Imagine if price skyrockets to 1k USD a BTC during this which I expect to be a bubble and all BTC-BOND holders want to cash out right away? Would be expensive to buy and complicated to sell assets to cover them.
Mar 20 16:59:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00444 BTC [-]
Mar 20 16:59:19 <Namworld>	I've removed ask and will buy back at least a good portion of it.
Mar 20 16:59:30 <deadweasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155036.20   is this guy serious?
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Mar 20 16:59:36 <deadweasel>	insurance?
Mar 20 17:00:02 <deadweasel>	that site looks like it took upwards of 12 minutes to make
Mar 20 17:00:09 <unbalanced>	Ah, I hit http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/ and now I'm caught up on Taleb and Gore pumping Bitcoin.
Mar 20 17:00:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 400 @ 0.0099 = 3.96 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:00:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.858989 = 2.577 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:02:30 <smickles>	jborkl: Thanks for the instructions. The only thing is that you shouldn't need pympex to get the MPEx gui to work, otherwise I'd be breaking pympex's license
Mar 20 17:04:26 <jborkl>	Let me move that , one sec
Mar 20 17:05:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00399 = 0.1995 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:05:45 <jborkl>	ok, remove that from the instructions, you are correct
Mar 20 17:07:22 <jborkl>	also, I forgot to add- you need to choose to have Kivy open the mpexgui- right click and assign it to always open this file
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Mar 20 17:08:40 <smickles>	oh windows is so strange to me now
Mar 20 17:08:55 <ThickAsThieves>	bottom fell out on ltc
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Mar 20 17:11:49 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-20/fleeing-the-euro-for-bitcoins-.html   sorry of that was already linked
Mar 20 17:11:52 <ThickAsThieves>	if*
Mar 20 17:12:05 <smickles>	not the bloomberg one
Mar 20 17:12:36 <jborkl>	smickles, I just read Cython is included in Kivy for windows- So no need to download that separate
Mar 20 17:13:18 <unbalanced>	benkay: sorry for the delay I was off reading - good idea!
Mar 20 17:13:40 <unbalanced>	ThinkAsThieves: similar to http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-20/jittery-spaniards-seek-safe-haven-in-bitcoins%23r=rss
Mar 20 17:13:44 <benkay>	no apologies necessary, unbalanced. your cycles were probably better burnt on whatever you were reading.
Mar 20 17:14:12 <ThickAsThieves>	LTC on BTC-e.com - Sell orders = Sell orders 902842 LTC, Buy Orders 968BTC
Mar 20 17:14:12 <benkay>	on the same topic, a local goldbug just got back from argentina, where he rented a car with bitcoins
Mar 20 17:15:11 <kakobrekla>	is a bitcoin bug then
Mar 20 17:15:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.24 = 0.48 BTC [-]
Mar 20 17:15:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24995 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:16:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.24997 = 0.7499 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:16:06 <unbalanced>	Did he say how's their hyperinflation was coming along?
Mar 20 17:16:20 <unbalanced>	er, *how
Mar 20 17:16:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 0.002499 BTC [-]
Mar 20 17:16:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @ 2.5 = 5 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:18:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00077103 = 2.236 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:19:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.858989 = 1.718 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1082 @ 0.00077103 = 0.8343 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:23:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00077104 = 4.8576 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:23:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2318 @ 0.00077128 = 1.7878 BTC [+]
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Mar 20 17:25:12 <smickles>	jborkl: "uniextractor" is that how it's actually spelled?
Mar 20 17:25:36 <jborkl>	one sec
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Mar 20 17:26:54 <jborkl>	UniExtract
Mar 20 17:27:12 <smickles>	thx :)
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Mar 20 17:30:29 <unbalanced>	Namworld: excuse my thickness but how would more hash power (ASICMINER) drive up BTC/USD? It sounds logical but I'm not sure I understand the cause/effect steps
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Mar 20 17:31:08 <unbalanced>	Is it because other miners need a higher exchange rate to keep mining, and the network needs the other miners?
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Mar 20 17:33:36 <jborkl>	Overall security of the network increases value
Mar 20 17:33:40 <jborkl>	imo
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Mar 20 17:35:09 <smickles>	jborkl: once you have asigned kivy to always open the file, can you launch MPEx just by double clicking MPEx instead of Kivy.bat?
Mar 20 17:35:12 <peterl>	But overall security has diminishing returns, doubling the hash rate does not give double the security
Mar 20 17:35:36 <jborkl>	smickles, yes
Mar 20 17:35:40 <unbalanced>	So more powerful verification mechanisms (ASIC-based miners) improve the utility/value of Bitcoin... right.
Mar 20 17:36:44 <jborkl>	I agree overall security does not provide hash double and price double
Mar 20 17:37:03 <jborkl>	I think we are at a unique point reached in January
Mar 20 17:37:05 <unbalanced>	Thousands of Europeans fleeing tax grabs are probably more of a factor I guess.
Mar 20 17:37:20 <unbalanced>	+speculators
Mar 20 17:37:43 <dub>	theres a historical correlation between difficulty and price, its probably a hangover from that
Mar 20 17:38:23 <kakobrekla>	http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php
Mar 20 17:38:39 <kakobrekla>	theres support and resistance in profitability
Mar 20 17:39:43 <unbalanced>	Interesting!
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Mar 20 17:40:28 <kakobrekla>	support being around 0.2 and resistance 0.5 or so
Mar 20 17:40:31 <smickles>	unbalanced: also check out the charts at http://blockchained.com/
Mar 20 17:40:36 <kakobrekla>	my bet is support will go lower with asic
Mar 20 17:40:46 <kakobrekla>	since its getting cheaper to hash
Mar 20 17:42:41 <jborkl>	Cheaper and easier, less technical know how. Now the main thing is people choosiing a pool that is not going to rip them off...
Mar 20 17:43:19 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i hadn't seen those charts of yours before. Would it be tough for you to add a 1 month chart?
Mar 20 17:43:19 <benkay>	cheaper to hash? how? with the advent of very expensive asic miners, how are things cheaper?
Mar 20 17:43:48 <jborkl>	Aic miners are much cheaper
Mar 20 17:43:51 <jborkl>	Asic
Mar 20 17:43:56 <benkay>	on watts/hash?
Mar 20 17:43:58 <benkay>	on what metric?
Mar 20 17:44:03 <jborkl>	all metrics
Mar 20 17:44:04 <kakobrekla>	smickles ill take a look later on
Mar 20 17:44:09 <smickles>	:)
Mar 20 17:44:10 <peterl>	the people with the asics get it cheaper, the gpus will be forced to drop out cause they are less efficient
Mar 20 17:44:10 <benkay>	except upfront cost to buy
Mar 20 17:44:16 <jborkl>	till a equilibrium is reached
Mar 20 17:44:23 <benkay>	capital requirements just went *up* friends.
Mar 20 17:44:33 <benkay>	is this not correct?
Mar 20 17:44:48 <peterl>	does anybody know how long an asic is expected to last?
Mar 20 17:45:01 <deadweasel>	well the new ati is $400
Mar 20 17:45:26 <benkay>	peterl: an excellent unanswered question.
Mar 20 17:45:28 <deadweasel>	so it's not a huge jump from there to a an asic
Mar 20 17:46:00 <benkay>	how much is an asic?
Mar 20 17:46:09 <deadweasel>	depends on the company and the size
Mar 20 17:46:10 <peterl>	I mean, if you can keep mining on them for years it would lower the capital costs, but if they burn up in a couple months it is a ll a waste
Mar 20 17:46:12 <benkay>	i don't play in the space, but i thought they were like 15k
Mar 20 17:46:29 <deadweasel>	no way to know peterl
Mar 20 17:46:39 <deadweasel>	the big rigs are
Mar 20 17:47:05 <jborkl>	FPGA's didnt burn up and GPUs didnt burn up - the power consumption of a ASIC tells me it will not burn up
Mar 20 17:47:08 <peterl>	maybe estimate the price in $ per Mhash?
Mar 20 17:47:32 <dub>	theres only one asic vendor shipping and only just, quality looks average but too soon to know about failure rate
Mar 20 17:47:45 <deadweasel>	i'd just be afraid of buying a rushed product.
Mar 20 17:48:02 <deadweasel>	'testing in production'
Mar 20 17:48:05 <benkay>	just because fpgas and gpus don't burn up implies nothing about quality of current bitcoin hashers
Mar 20 17:48:10 <benkay>	-> asic hashers
Mar 20 17:48:12 <deadweasel>	they may honor defects, who knows?1
Mar 20 17:48:15 <benkay>	silicon design is non trivial
Mar 20 17:48:24 <jborkl>	Asic chips are all over, used every day
Mar 20 17:48:26 <peterl>	From what I read in the AsicMiner thread it sounded like he used a generous line width, which I think means they will be pretty robust?
Mar 20 17:48:40 <dub>	well 100% of gpus will burn up if deployed wrong
Mar 20 17:48:49 <benkay>	+1 to that
Mar 20 17:48:49 <deadweasel>	no doubt
Mar 20 17:54:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132 @ 0.00077128 = 0.1018 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2694 @ 0.00077397 = 2.0851 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:55:19 <peterl>	anybody know why ESECURITYSABTC is trading at 2x it's face value? Is it just because of the rapid change in btc price?
Mar 20 17:56:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.004 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Mar 20 17:57:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8588 BTC [-]
Mar 20 17:57:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00399 = 0.399 BTC [-]
Mar 20 17:57:54 <jborkl>	smickles, have you tried the mpexgui on android yet?
Mar 20 17:58:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.00398 = 1.194 BTC [-]
Mar 20 17:58:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8588 BTC [-]
Mar 20 17:58:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8588 = 1.7176 BTC [-]
Mar 20 18:00:46 <smickles>	jborkl: I have not. Currently, my goals are to improve the look of the long lists, then get all mpex commands into the gui. That said, i've looked at what it takes to deploy a kivy app on android and it seems entirely doable
Mar 20 18:01:24 <jborkl>	I am trying Kivy launcher on Android, I will let you know how it goes
Mar 20 18:01:46 <smickles>	Cool :)
Mar 20 18:02:29 <Namworld>	unbalanced, what?
Mar 20 18:03:24 <Namworld>	I thought billg was referring to the [16:53] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.858988 = 1.718 BTC [-] thing
Mar 20 18:03:57 <Namworld>	I don't see hashing having much of an impact.
Mar 20 18:04:30 <unbalanced>	Ah I was just looking for more info re: your mention of the ASICMINER above
Mar 20 18:05:02 <smickles>	jborkl: I put a 'thank you' line into the windows install instructions, is that ok with you?
Mar 20 18:05:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 20 18:05:41 <jborkl>	Yeah, thanks
Mar 20 18:05:41 <unbalanced>	Ah I see it now on the re-read
Mar 20 18:07:09 <billg>	yes i meant asicminer
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Mar 20 18:12:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8588 = 3.4352 BTC [-]
Mar 20 18:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3656 @ 0.00077397 = 2.8296 BTC [+]
Mar 20 18:13:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8544 @ 0.00077505 = 6.622 BTC [+]
Mar 20 18:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99 BTC [+]
Mar 20 18:15:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00075921 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 18:16:50 <Bowjob>	meow
Mar 20 18:16:53 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 20 18:16:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.20001, Best ask: 65.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29999, Last trade: 65.50000, 24 hour volume: 88665.03030319, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 61.61345
Mar 20 18:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.france24.com/en/20130319-internet-europe-bitcoin-digital-currency-getting-boost-from-euro-crisis
Mar 20 18:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	ehehe
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Mar 20 18:18:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you missed the one in bloomburg, and the one in businessweek?
Mar 20 18:18:56 <smickles>	;D
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Mar 20 18:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Mar 20 18:19:33 <Bowjob>	id like to see a US dollar crisis
Mar 20 18:19:37 <Bowjob>	to shake shit up
Mar 20 18:19:40 <Bowjob>	>:)
Mar 20 18:20:09 <Bowjob>	"worth over 53 dollars"
Mar 20 18:20:19 <Bowjob>	while it is true, I feel  the article is outdated
Mar 20 18:20:30 <Bowjob>	a paradigm shift is occuring
Mar 20 18:20:43 <kakobrekla>	a shift
Mar 20 18:20:48 <kakobrekla>	53 is 35 nao
Mar 20 18:21:52 <Bowjob>	$65 is the new $5
Mar 20 18:22:11 <smickles>	$30 is the new $1
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Mar 20 18:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 20 18:25:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.20009, Best ask: 65.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.29990, Last trade: 65.49999, 24 hour volume: 88714.34219636, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 61.63805
Mar 20 18:25:34 <mircea_popescu>	jesus
Mar 20 18:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	it's gotten to the point i can't sleep cause i miss out
Mar 20 18:25:52 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 20 18:26:05 <Bowjob>	at first i was like.. yeah bitch imma cash out!
Mar 20 18:26:11 <Bowjob>	then.. im thinking..
Mar 20 18:26:19 <Bowjob>	hey. in the future, i'll just end up spendingBTC
Mar 20 18:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 20 18:26:22 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00070356 / 0.00073898 / 0.00077505 (248006 shares, 183.27 BTC), 7D: 0.00066743 / 0.00071994 / 0.00077505 (2748479 shares, 1,978.76 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00070585 / 0.00078628 (38121639 shares, 26,908.39 BTC)
Mar 20 18:26:32 <Bowjob>	without trading btc for fiat
Mar 20 18:26:33 <benkay>	that sounds more like thinking, bowjob ;)
Mar 20 18:26:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.00073898 * 65.5
Mar 20 18:26:35 <gribble>	0.04840319
Mar 20 18:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	awww! soclose!
Mar 20 18:26:58 <Bowjob>	yeap.
Mar 20 18:27:10 <Bowjob>	it doesnt make sense to kill btc for fiat.. fiat will rot
Mar 20 18:27:12 <Bowjob>	>_>
Mar 20 18:28:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8588 = 3.4352 BTC [-]
Mar 20 18:29:00 <billg>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1642908#msg1642908 oh,usagi is embarrassed
Mar 20 18:29:08 *	billg is now known as jurov
Mar 20 18:29:09 <benkay>	being of sound mind and body, i'm converting my fiat as fast as i can, and spending the rest
Mar 20 18:29:46 <Bowjob>	im keeping around ~7k worth of fiat
Mar 20 18:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	evil jerks trolling usagi
Mar 20 18:29:55 <Bowjob>	some people owe me like 4k fiat
Mar 20 18:31:06 <kakobrekla>	usgai/cpa ows me 200btc
Mar 20 18:31:11 <kakobrekla>	;>
Mar 20 18:31:29 <Bowjob>	isnt usagi nefario
Mar 20 18:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Mar 20 18:31:37 <Bowjob>	or.. idk, wasn't around for the drama
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Mar 20 18:31:55 <mircea_popescu>	nefario is this chav that figured he's seen some bankers on tv so he's just as good.
Mar 20 18:32:10 <Bowjob>	I missed the pirate boatshow, bruce wagner, ASIC announcement
Mar 20 18:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	usagi is this white trash that has seen some women so he thinks he's a woman.
Mar 20 18:32:10 <Namworld>	Bowjob: not at all
Mar 20 18:32:13 <mircea_popescu>	big difference there.
Mar 20 18:32:16 <Bowjob>	so I came in pretty late in the game
Mar 20 18:33:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00401 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 18:33:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0039 = 0.0078 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 18:35:07 <ThickAsThieves>	I <3 Deprived
Mar 20 18:35:18 <ThickAsThieves>	he's the asset regulator
Mar 20 18:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	pity he;'s stubbornly sticking to ltc.
Mar 20 18:35:41 <ThickAsThieves>	he might change his tune after today
Mar 20 18:36:01 <mircea_popescu>	i hope btc goes over 70 so i can claim the first bitcoin corp over 50mn mkt cap
Mar 20 18:36:09 <mod6>	:)
Mar 20 18:36:26 <Namworld>	eh
Mar 20 18:36:35 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: "first!"
Mar 20 18:36:43 <benkay>	things never change.
Mar 20 18:37:01 <dub>	usagi must be a scammer because DT has endorsed it
Mar 20 18:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine the 1st to go over 1bn will make a larger splash anyway.
Mar 20 18:37:29 <mircea_popescu>	dub funny how that works out huh. that guy just won't learn.
Mar 20 18:37:35 <Namworld>	DT? A scammer?
Mar 20 18:37:57 <dub>	DT has a gift for detecting scammers
Mar 20 18:38:06 <ThickAsThieves>	by supporting them
Mar 20 18:38:49 <mircea_popescu>	dub asicminer hasn't blown up so far, that's pretty much his only exception afaik.
Mar 20 18:38:53 <kakobrekla>	by detecting you mean associating
Mar 20 18:39:03 <kakobrekla>	hes a magnet.
Mar 20 18:39:22 <dub>	all he's doing with AM is a PT, theres still plenty of scope for that to asplode
Mar 20 18:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	dub nah, he was one of the original supporters
Mar 20 18:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	back in april last year when the thing was born
Mar 20 18:40:26 <dub>	oh really?
Mar 20 18:40:33 <dub>	who wants to buy some AM!
Mar 20 18:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, grep the logs if you're curious
Mar 20 18:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	basically the usagi threads are like old style russian manuals, and usagi is the delegated evil character which makes all the mistakes so the law abiding engineer guy with a soft love interest can set the record straight explicitly for the benefit of the reader
Mar 20 18:43:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136381820671.gif << hungry nigga
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Mar 20 18:49:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.8588 = 5.1528 BTC [-]
Mar 20 18:49:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8589 = 3.4356 BTC [+]
Mar 20 18:50:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0044 = 0.022 BTC [+]
Mar 20 18:50:08 <benkay>	is that a trope in russian lit?
Mar 20 18:50:18 <benkay>	or were manuals really written like that?
Mar 20 18:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much like that yeah
Mar 20 18:50:43 <benkay>	also, iono what's in that envelope, but homie's probably about to get hiiiiigh
Mar 20 18:51:15 <mircea_popescu>	i was gonna go to jail, but then i got high
Mar 20 18:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	then i got high
Mar 20 18:51:23 <mircea_popescu>	then i got hiii-iiigh
Mar 20 18:51:36 <benkay>	da da dum bum
Mar 20 18:51:54 <benkay>	i was going to lock this server down
Mar 20 18:52:00 <benkay>	...
Mar 20 18:52:21 <benkay>	i was going to run bitcoind somewhere other than the box running my web app
Mar 20 18:52:26 <benkay>	but then i got high
Mar 20 18:52:33 <benkay>	i was going to lower the amount in the hot wallet
Mar 20 18:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 20 18:52:36 <benkay>	but then i got hiiigh
Mar 20 18:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	stop, it's becoming painfully veracious
Mar 20 18:53:00 <benkay>	now bitcointalk's on my ass
Mar 20 18:53:05 <benkay>	AND I KNOW WHY-YY
Mar 20 18:53:13 <benkay>	everybody
Mar 20 18:53:22 <benkay>	because i got high
Mar 20 18:53:24 <benkay>	because i got high
Mar 20 18:53:26 <benkay>	because i got high.
Mar 20 18:54:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104999 BTC [+]
Mar 20 18:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.msg1647346#msg1647346 Bowjob baby you know about bitbet referral right ?
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Mar 20 18:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	hey midnightmagic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.0;all
Mar 20 18:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	explain about this guy's integrity and everything.
Mar 20 18:57:49 <mircea_popescu>	i'm all ears.
Mar 20 18:58:14 <jurov>	i hope bitbet first referral wins? or if user clicks on other ref url it's replaced?
Mar 20 18:58:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8589 BTC [+]
Mar 20 18:58:50 <kakobrekla>	not replaced
Mar 20 18:58:51 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ^
Mar 20 18:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
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Mar 20 19:05:36 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: thank you.
Mar 20 19:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	what's this about ?
Mar 20 19:06:13 <jurov>	[\\\] is imsaguy
Mar 20 19:06:28 <jurov>	got his G.MPOE :)
Mar 20 19:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	yea...
Mar 20 19:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	o. haha. you're welcome
Mar 20 19:06:49 <[\\\]>	I look forward to my monthly $.27
Mar 20 19:06:52 <[\\\]>	;-)
Mar 20 19:07:06 <[\\\]>	I think you should raise fees more.
Mar 20 19:07:12 <[\\\]>	like 60 BTC at least
Mar 20 19:07:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol!
Mar 20 19:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	the advantage of having shareholders!
Mar 20 19:07:38 <jurov>	;;slap "[\\\\\\]"
Mar 20 19:07:39 *	gribble slaps [\\\] with a battered ride
Mar 20 19:07:48 <[\\\]>	jurov, I see you've learned :)
Mar 20 19:07:56 <[\\\]>	see, everday is a teaching experience.
Mar 20 19:08:03 <[\\\]>	everyday*
Mar 20 19:08:07 <kakobrekla>	http://i.imgur.com/AiJSjdH.jpg
Mar 20 19:08:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc .00000097 * 10000 * 65
Mar 20 19:08:24 <gribble>	0.6305
Mar 20 19:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	63 not 27 you hater.
Mar 20 19:08:59 <[\\\]>	oh, right
Mar 20 19:09:11 <[\\\]>	so if you double, I get >$1.00
Mar 20 19:09:12 <[\\\]>	woo
Mar 20 19:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol kakobrekla. women win!
Mar 20 19:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] o ya ?!
Mar 20 19:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	;; .63 * 12 / 0.03
Mar 20 19:09:50 <gribble>	Error: ".63" is not a valid command.
Mar 20 19:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	;; calc .63 * 12 / 0.03
Mar 20 19:09:54 <gribble>	252
Mar 20 19:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	it's the equiv of a 250 dollar T :D
Mar 20 19:10:40 <jurov>	[\\\] you ain't ever get anything for free anymore
Mar 20 19:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1644753#msg1644753 from the butthurt dept.
Mar 20 19:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	"you are calling me a liar without proof"
Mar 20 19:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	ya jolly good, proof is needed now.
Mar 20 19:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	this from the "you are tearing down churches with no proof that god doesn't exist".
Mar 20 19:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	i totally need proof for that too.
Mar 20 19:12:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00077402 = 5.1859 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:15:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8589 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:15:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858989 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:17:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 51 @ 0.000712 = 0.0363 BTC [-]
Mar 20 19:19:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:21:20 <[\\\]>	jurov, I didn't get anything for free
Mar 20 19:21:36 <pigeons>	"Is there an affiliate program?"
Mar 20 19:21:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33319 = 0.9996 BTC [-]
Mar 20 19:21:44 <[\\\]>	jurov, you must have missed the part where I sold an idea
Mar 20 19:21:55 <pigeons>	patent troll!
Mar 20 19:22:04 <[\\\]>	patient troll?
Mar 20 19:22:06 <[\\\]>	why yes.
Mar 20 19:22:14 <pigeons>	;>
Mar 20 19:22:24 <[\\\]>	paging BFL hardware, table of 1
Mar 20 19:22:31 <[\\\]>	oh right, coming soon.
Mar 20 19:22:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858989 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:22:45 <pigeons>	oh shit our test rig broke
Mar 20 19:22:55 <[\\\]>	we need a test rig for the test rig damnit!
Mar 20 19:22:55 <jurov>	[\\\] expects to be bribed to not ask mp to increase fees
Mar 20 19:22:56 <pigeons>	which has nothing to do with a mining rig by the way
Mar 20 19:23:22 <[\\\]>	pigeons: wouldn't throwing the chip on a board and seeing if it hashes be a good way to test it?
Mar 20 19:23:32 <jurov>	that kind of ideas
Mar 20 19:23:37 <[\\\]>	after all, he can have boards printed in like less than 24 hours
Mar 20 19:23:42 <[\\\]>	or something
Mar 20 19:23:46 <jurov>	will it blend?
Mar 20 19:23:55 <jurov>	...er. hash?
Mar 20 19:24:02 <pigeons>	[\\\]: probably how avalon did it, and why they only had 3 working units after a whole run of components
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Mar 20 19:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	patent troll lol
Mar 20 19:24:43 <[\\\]>	lol
Mar 20 19:24:58 <[\\\]>	avalon has other issues
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Mar 20 19:36:58 <mircea_popescu>	so basically here's march and we still don't have an asic maker
Mar 20 19:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	what the fucking hell.
Mar 20 19:37:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.858989 = 4.2949 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:38:13 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 20 19:38:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.12999, Best ask: 63.13000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 63.13000, 24 hour volume: 91479.15178779, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 61.92404
Mar 20 19:38:21 <Bowjob>	we've reached $66
Mar 20 19:38:27 <Bowjob>	woo
Mar 20 19:38:37 <Namworld>	66.6, here we go
Mar 20 19:38:48 <Bowjob>	5 steps forward, 2 steps back
Mar 20 19:38:52 <Bowjob>	im okay with this
Mar 20 19:40:17 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: bfl is an asic maker
Mar 20 19:40:21 <smickles>	"Earn Bitcoin at the First Business Opportunity using Bitcoin as primary currency." lolwut?
Mar 20 19:40:22 <[\\\]>	they just haven't shipped yet
Mar 20 19:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] so when do they ship ?
Mar 20 19:40:42 <[\\\]>	soon, duh
Mar 20 19:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 20 19:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	"two weeks"
Mar 20 19:40:55 <[\\\]>	"october"
Mar 20 19:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	at the latest!
Mar 20 19:41:16 <[\\\]>	why you gotta be trolling man?
Mar 20 19:41:21 <[\\\]>	why's everyone hating?
Mar 20 19:42:00 <[\\\]>	They took the preorders in July..  middle of March.. 8 months later
Mar 20 19:42:00 <smickles>	"All users of Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind versions 0.7.2 and earlier are required to upgrade to 0.8.1..." REQUIRED!
Mar 20 19:42:10 <[\\\]>	Jesus, might as well make a baby.
Mar 20 19:42:14 <[\\\]>	its cheaper and quicker
Mar 20 19:42:22 <pizzaman1337>	and more fun
Mar 20 19:42:23 <[\\\]>	smickles, yes.  db locking is being a bitch.
Mar 20 19:42:28 <[\\\]>	pizzaman1337: not always.
Mar 20 19:42:35 <[\\\]>	bishes got horomones.
Mar 20 19:42:51 <[\\\]>	hormones too
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Mar 20 19:43:20 <Bowjob>	anyone here use electrum
Mar 20 19:43:21 <Bowjob>	?
Mar 20 19:44:09 <smickles>	lol, Dooglus has "I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen." in his sig now
Mar 20 19:44:21 <pizzaman1337>	that's been there for a while
Mar 20 19:44:38 <Bowjob>	its been there for a while\
Mar 20 19:44:44 <Bowjob>	and we are indeed the new wealthy elite
Mar 20 19:44:48 <smickles>	http://i.imgur.com/WPhc7Lq.png << see to me, this totally justifies buying more at .0047
Mar 20 19:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, up a little
Mar 20 19:45:25 <Bowjob>	about 3k up
Mar 20 19:45:50 <smickles>	Bowjob: i dunno about you, but currently, it'd have to be about 1666666 usd/btc for me to begin considering that
Mar 20 19:45:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 67
Mar 20 19:45:59 <gribble>	There are currently 5896.4315 bitcoins offered at or under 67.0 USD, worth 386684.371278 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
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Mar 20 19:46:05 <Bowjob>	eh
Mar 20 19:46:10 <Bowjob>	how much btc do you have
Mar 20 19:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	not so bad.
Mar 20 19:46:25 <smickles>	hundreds and hundreds of bitcoins :D
Mar 20 19:46:25 <ThickAsThieves>	wtb moar cyprus-like catostrophe
Mar 20 19:46:39 <Bowjob>	i thought everyone here owned 1000s and 1000s of btc
Mar 20 19:46:51 <ThickAsThieves>	catastrophe
Mar 20 19:46:54 <smickles>	i might've, but i actually use them
Mar 20 19:46:56 *	pizzaman1337 joined the game too late
Mar 20 19:47:13 <ThickAsThieves>	workin on my first thousand
Mar 20 19:47:23 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd be closer if i didnt dabble in ltc...
Mar 20 19:47:31 <smickles>	and, i sold a fuckload of my s.mpoe when it was at like .00002 or somehting
Mar 20 19:47:31 <deadweasel>	work faster!
Mar 20 19:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	smickles lolz!
Mar 20 19:47:49 <deadweasel>	well that was just good business sense, smickles...
Mar 20 19:47:54 <Bowjob>	I need to beef my security up
Mar 20 19:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	it was totally overpriced so.
Mar 20 19:48:11 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i kept a lot too, (and i think i put an extra 0 in there)
Mar 20 19:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 20 19:48:51 <deadweasel>	Bowjob: your auth.log not looking so hot?
Mar 20 19:48:56 <[\\\]>	smickles, decimals are magic.. you can add as many as you want after the decimal
Mar 20 19:49:03 <deadweasel>	i hate those random attempts at root
Mar 20 19:49:04 <[\\\]>	you could have added like 200 of them
Mar 20 19:49:08 <Bowjob>	huh
Mar 20 19:49:10 <Bowjob>	i dont follow
Mar 20 19:49:16 <[\\\]>	I sold a ton of s.mpoe at .00020000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Mar 20 19:49:18 <[\\\]>	rich!
Mar 20 19:49:24 <smickles>	lol
Mar 20 19:49:38 <Bowjob>	electrum keeps saying synchronizing
Mar 20 19:49:52 <[\\\]>	it is having a hard time adding 0
Mar 20 19:51:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01993 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:52:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 328 @ 0.00075921 = 0.249 BTC [-]
Mar 20 19:52:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.0007592 = 2.2776 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 19:52:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00075919 = 2.2017 BTC [-]
Mar 20 19:52:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2849 @ 0.00075675 = 2.156 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 19:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.004999 = 4.999 BTC [-]
Mar 20 19:53:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 999 @ 0.00499999 = 4.995 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:53:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 201 @ 0.005 = 1.005 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6623 @ 0.0051 = 33.7773 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 26004 @ 0.005598 = 145.5704 BTC [+]
Mar 20 19:54:23 <Bowjob>	fixed it
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Mar 20 19:58:37 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 20 19:58:37 <gribble>	0.002989 seconds
Mar 20 19:58:38 <Bowjob>	llticker
Mar 20 19:58:40 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 20 19:58:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.50000, Best ask: 63.70002, Bid-ask spread: 0.20002, Last trade: 63.70002, 24 hour volume: 92771.15913148, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 61.99830
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Mar 20 19:59:52 <Bowjob>	litecoin nosedive
Mar 20 20:00:43 <benkay>	dunno if that counts as an 'asset' anymore.
Mar 20 20:00:48 <benkay>	;)
Mar 20 20:01:57 <Bowjob>	I feel like eating steak
Mar 20 20:01:58 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 20 20:02:05 <Bowjob>	juicy rare steak.
Mar 20 20:02:07 <Bowjob>	nomnomnom
Mar 20 20:02:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858989 BTC [+]
Mar 20 20:05:23 <kakobrekla>	whats with litecoin?
Mar 20 20:05:55 <Bowjob>	its keeping its fiat value
Mar 20 20:05:58 <dub>	ok Bowjob is retarded
Mar 20 20:05:59 <Bowjob>	but dropping against btc
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Mar 20 20:07:58 <Bowjob>	what
Mar 20 20:09:51 <mircea_popescu>	the latest in mp arrogance : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/strategic-superiority-the-saga-continues/
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Mar 20 20:10:54 <ThickAsThieves>	lol i'm gettin crunk with my floor guys
Mar 20 20:11:27 <ThickAsThieves>	first they wanted to smoke, then drink, now they wanna rap over some beats
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Mar 20 20:12:39 <[\\\]>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66802.msg1643203#msg1643203
Mar 20 20:12:44 <benkay>	at first, I read that as "I am getting crunk with my floor, guys"
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Mar 20 20:13:08 <dub>	in related news, asicminer should be worht 3btc now
Mar 20 20:13:16 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Mar 20 20:13:24 <dub>	avalon is a failure
Mar 20 20:13:29 <kakobrekla>	ah dat
Mar 20 20:13:33 <dub>	AM is the only dog in the race
Mar 20 20:13:39 <mircea_popescu>	dub that's a point.
Mar 20 20:13:42 <kakobrekla>	well not rly
Mar 20 20:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	avalon did just faceplant on a nail
Mar 20 20:14:21 <dub>	from the top rope
Mar 20 20:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	whether that makes asicminer worth 3...
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Mar 20 20:14:57 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 20 20:14:58 <gribble>	48124.866899322158
Mar 20 20:14:59 <topace_>	i havent been following, what did avalon do?
Mar 20 20:15:02 <benkay>	url markdown's broken in that post
Mar 20 20:15:18 <Bowjob>	avalon is gonna take a vacation
Mar 20 20:15:30 <kakobrekla>	i have a feeling they found a meter free elec plug and now making exuse not to sell by increasing the price xD
Mar 20 20:15:35 <dub>	topace_: admitted to not having shipped batch 1, not having capability to ship batch 2 and charging moonbeams for batch 3
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Mar 20 20:16:01 <topace_>	dub: lol oh.. thats not good :p
Mar 20 20:16:01 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.msg1647013#msg1647013 ^
Mar 20 20:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	topace_ increased their unit price 5x
Mar 20 20:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	but basically i think dub has it : they've decided not to ship but mine instead.
Mar 20 20:16:49 <dub>	s/dub/kako
Mar 20 20:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	which they had been allegedly dfoing a little anyway (people reporting dusted units delivered)
Mar 20 20:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	you know how scamming goes... today you dip a little
Mar 20 20:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	tomorrow you figure since you're dipping anyway might as well keep it all.
Mar 20 20:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	what's the worst that can happen ? they get a btctalk scammer tag and a chinese relic hunter is hired to track them down and "have a chat" ?
Mar 20 20:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub so perhaps asicminer figures the same and your 3 isn't gonna be 3 for very long.
Mar 20 20:18:24 <dub>	and Bowjob has a peurto libre (sp?) level case of stockholm
Mar 20 20:18:35 <mircea_popescu>	puerto
Mar 20 20:18:57 <Bowjob>	haha sure buddy. whatever makes you feel better
Mar 20 20:19:38 <benkay>	put zhou tong on the case
Mar 20 20:19:40 <dub>	spew moar miconisms troll
Mar 20 20:20:09 <dub>	forum needs a 'ignore people with anime avatars' widget
Mar 20 20:20:28 <dub>	guaranteed waste of electrons
Mar 20 20:20:31 <Bowjob>	who are you? i dont even know who you are
Mar 20 20:20:41 <Bowjob>	im flattered you care so much about it. thanks
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Mar 20 20:23:24 <topace_>	and bfl is "stuck on their test rig"
Mar 20 20:23:28 <topace_>	for a week now?
Mar 20 20:23:45 <kakobrekla>	bfl decided to refund customers in btc, you know 2 per and mine themselfs too
Mar 20 20:24:04 <Bowjob>	dub, you probably were offended by my bfl comments, someone's butthurt
Mar 20 20:24:08 <topace_>	haha
Mar 20 20:24:24 <Bowjob>	and i dont have stockholm, I've covered my BTC purchase with fiat, actually
Mar 20 20:24:34 <dub>	lolwat
Mar 20 20:24:52 <dub>	im actually feeling a lot better about my bfl preorder now :)
Mar 20 20:25:15 <Bowjob>	haha i knew it. you were butthurt
Mar 20 20:25:22 <Bowjob>	keep it sore buddy
Mar 20 20:25:50 <benkay>	oh miners
Mar 20 20:25:55 <benkay>	so emotionally attached to their mining rigs
Mar 20 20:26:03 <[\\\]>	without miners, bitcoin would have no future
Mar 20 20:26:11 <benkay>	mine with a gpu
Mar 20 20:26:12 <dub>	if I was butthurt t'would not be due to you repasting the rampant threadshitting of the other clowns
Mar 20 20:26:22 <[\\\]>	mining with a gpu IS a miner
Mar 20 20:26:23 <benkay>	silicon ain't trivial
Mar 20 20:26:23 <[\\\]>	derp
Mar 20 20:26:35 <benkay>	slashes, let me finish before you jump down my throat
Mar 20 20:26:38 <kakobrekla>	you see what mister-stabintheface-bigg did https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155612.msg1650141#msg1650141
Mar 20 20:26:44 <[\\\]>	benkay, then use punctuation.
Mar 20 20:27:20 <benkay>	asics are arguably bad for the ecosystem,
Mar 20 20:27:32 <[\\\]>	notice how the forum hasn't gotten any donations since January?
Mar 20 20:27:38 <benkay>	they cost a lot of money, and deliver a lot of hashing power to the purchasing entities.
Mar 20 20:27:40 <[\\\]>	benkay: you realize people said the same about gpu?
Mar 20 20:28:37 <benkay>	it's also hellza tricky to manufacture your own chips. not that i know from experience, never having sunk shitloads of money into a litho run and subsequent processing (knowing how much things cost in the first place).
Mar 20 20:29:33 <benkay>	this absurd focus on overpowered mining rigs is evident of an unhealthy focus on short term gains over long term tools to expand the bitcoin economy.
Mar 20 20:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	wait, drama ?
Mar 20 20:29:57 <[\\\]>	nah
Mar 20 20:30:08 <[\\\]>	another rocket scientist here to school the rest of us
Mar 20 20:30:12 <[\\\]>	save us from ourselves.
Mar 20 20:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] why'd the forum fget donations tho ? so theymos can come up with weird financial schemes ?
Mar 20 20:30:24 <Bowjob>	oh, and nice use of stockholm by the way, irrc I was the first one who used it against BFL. I'm honored
Mar 20 20:30:27 <[\\\]>	yep
Mar 20 20:30:43 <[\\\]>	now we're gonna gonna split it up because one person can't hold it
Mar 20 20:30:48 <[\\\]>	and 2 of 3 is too complicated
Mar 20 20:31:13 <mircea_popescu>	i like dt https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155612.msg1650151#msg1650151
Mar 20 20:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	why isn't he here!
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Mar 20 20:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] i suppose you've seen the http://bitbet.us/bet/314/bitcointalk-org-treasurer-to-be-scammer-tagged/
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Mar 20 20:31:55 <mircea_popescu>	a cool 200 bux riding on that atm
Mar 20 20:31:56 <[\\\]>	yes
Mar 20 20:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	even money too
Mar 20 20:32:11 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: at this point, its more than 200 bux
Mar 20 20:32:16 <[\\\]>	oh look, now its even more
Mar 20 20:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	ya i guess that's right
Mar 20 20:32:19 <[\\\]>	:-x
Mar 20 20:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 20 20:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	benkay no, actually, asics are a crucial step in securing the network.
Mar 20 20:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	w/o them we're playdough.
Mar 20 20:33:30 <benkay>	i'll give on that
Mar 20 20:33:49 <benkay>	still hold that the furor over their delivery to market is idiots.
Mar 20 20:33:49 <mircea_popescu>	and in a sense it's good that a bunch of no starter corps did it first
Mar 20 20:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	this way when somebody makes a real run, it's dented somewhat
Mar 20 20:34:06 <benkay>	sheeeit
Mar 20 20:34:12 <benkay>	i live in the forest
Mar 20 20:34:17 <benkay>	there are plenty of fabs here
Mar 20 20:34:53 <benkay>	gotta find some forward thinking intel folks
Mar 20 20:34:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2151 @ 0.00075675 = 1.6278 BTC [-]
Mar 20 20:35:00 <benkay>	granted, most are cubeslaves
Mar 20 20:35:46 <dub>	as a core developer, i look upon all Avalons as my son. i will send them to who believe us, not the faithless or buzzard.
Mar 20 20:35:51 <dub>	lewl
Mar 20 20:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	i think amd could actually do it
Mar 20 20:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	if someone could talk them into sinking the moneyz into it.
Mar 20 20:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	if bitcoin weren't so retarded we'd have all ny escorts by now
Mar 20 20:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	and then i could find a foxy chick to train for this mission of infiltrating amd top brass
Mar 20 20:37:18 <benkay>	a southern california stanford student would suffice
Mar 20 20:37:51 <benkay>	probably not as smart as a new york whore
Mar 20 20:38:02 <benkay>	but more likely to raise the funds for an asic round
Mar 20 20:38:19 <benkay>	plus local talent
Mar 20 20:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	local isn't so great.
Mar 20 20:38:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074461 = 3.7231 BTC [-]
Mar 20 20:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.98 = 5.94 BTC [-]
Mar 20 20:39:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99 BTC [+]
Mar 20 20:39:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3348 @ 0.0007446 = 2.4929 BTC [-]
Mar 20 20:39:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2552 @ 0.00074261 = 1.8951 BTC [-]
Mar 20 20:39:09 <mircea_popescu>	get rory & bruce in a fingertrap, 2014 sees 1mn asics delivered
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Mar 20 20:39:20 <benkay>	rory and bruce?
Mar 20 20:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	rory & bruce!
Mar 20 20:39:48 <tiberiusiv>	anyone notice the daily transactions have fallen from 75k to 45k
Mar 20 20:39:50 <benkay>	local talent is better than no talent, and silicon valley has plenty of chip facilities and fabless foundries.
Mar 20 20:40:04 <tiberiusiv>	https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions
Mar 20 20:40:20 <tiberiusiv>	satoshi dice die off?
Mar 20 20:40:52 <benkay>	constant value of transactions with decreased value of fiat currencies?
Mar 20 20:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv seems to me within normal noise
Mar 20 20:41:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P570T] 1 @ 0.07415034 BTC [-]
Mar 20 20:41:49 <jcpham>	herro
Mar 20 20:41:52 <jcpham>	what's new
Mar 20 20:42:09 <tiberiusiv>	does the confirmation time decrease with more hasing power?
Mar 20 20:42:26 <jcpham>	not necessarily
Mar 20 20:42:28 <jcpham>	no
Mar 20 20:42:34 <tiberiusiv>	https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-confirmation-time
Mar 20 20:42:36 <tiberiusiv>	new lows?
Mar 20 20:43:20 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: if I create and sell put options, and I want to buy them back before they exercise, how do I do that?
Mar 20 20:43:20 <kakobrekla>	it will retarget to 10 min every 2014 blocks or smth which is ~2weeks
Mar 20 20:43:28 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 20 20:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 by buying them back.
Mar 20 20:43:30 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227033 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 774 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6269965.33146 | Estimated Percent Change: 29.34038
Mar 20 20:43:40 <jcpham>	let me rephase, assuming all miners are "good" yes the linear thought is that confirmations should increase
Mar 20 20:43:55 <jcpham>	especially with pools ops increasing block size restrictions in their mined blocks
Mar 20 20:43:57 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: when I do that, should they be removed from the "To which add sums deposited as surety for 4th Friday settled option and future contracts" section?
Mar 20 20:44:04 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv confirmation time is a function of the ratio between implied hash and actual hash.
Mar 20 20:44:11 <jcpham>	introduce nefarious hashpower and that doesn't hold true
Mar 20 20:44:20 <mircea_popescu>	if diff retarget works on 20th and then miners do 30th,
Mar 20 20:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	you'll get 50% faster confirms.
Mar 20 20:44:32 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 nope
Mar 20 20:44:52 <pizzaman1337>	why not?
Mar 20 20:44:57 <tiberiusiv>	are those in here with substantial bitcoin holdings hedging ?
Mar 20 20:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	why would it ?
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Mar 20 20:45:15 <tiberiusiv>	or just outright long
Mar 20 20:45:19 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv i sold ~1k btc, but not really doing much other than that.
Mar 20 20:45:35 <pizzaman1337>	ok, yeah, I guess it doesn't
Mar 20 20:45:51 <pizzaman1337>	doesn't need to
Mar 20 20:45:55 <jcpham>	hoooooold
Mar 20 20:46:06 <jcpham>	throw some more o's in there
Mar 20 20:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, when options expire, you get collateral - put value back from collateral + put value back from holdings
Mar 20 20:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	so it's nulled out, you jsut get your collateral back
Mar 20 20:46:28 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, that makes sense. Helps keep track too.
Mar 20 20:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Mar 20 20:46:40 <mircea_popescu>	also makes things easier for the larger player
Mar 20 20:46:50 <tiberiusiv>	this latest move has been too far too fast
Mar 20 20:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	he creates put once buys/sells it 500 times or w.e
Mar 20 20:46:59 <pizzaman1337>	Ok, I guess in two days I'll feel comfortable with this
Mar 20 20:47:07 <benkay>	or lose all of your money :D
Mar 20 20:47:35 <pizzaman1337>	I'll learn something at least
Mar 20 20:48:07 <benkay>	that's the important thing.
Mar 20 20:48:16 <benkay>	earn or learn
Mar 20 20:48:19 <benkay>	too many focus on the former.
Mar 20 20:48:39 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg1647627#msg1647627 poor piuk
Mar 20 20:48:54 <pizzaman1337>	benkay: that's why I'm only messing around with <10 options this month...
Mar 20 20:49:03 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: devops is hard yo
Mar 20 20:49:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10764 @ 0.00074261 = 7.9935 BTC [-]
Mar 20 20:49:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1686 @ 0.00073845 = 1.245 BTC [-]
Mar 20 20:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	tell me about it.
Mar 20 20:49:46 <Chaang-Noi>	go to bed, btc is 64, wake up btc is 64... btc is same! not happened in forever...
Mar 20 20:50:03 <mircea_popescu>	he's in the shitspot of all time. unlike mpex he doesn't make infinite moneyz so he can't spend infinite moneyz, unlike mpoe he can't just go "heh, trade on irc fu".
Mar 20 20:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	he may still solve the problem by proxiing as he's trying, but it'll be more work needed
Mar 20 20:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi you went to bed wrongly. i went to bed it was 60 woke up 64
Mar 20 20:50:51 <Chaang-Noi>	we did get a new atg to 66 i see
Mar 20 20:51:00 <Chaang-Noi>	ath
Mar 20 20:51:11 <Chaang-Noi>	crazy btc...
Mar 20 20:51:17 <Chaang-Noi>	come on 1000
Mar 20 20:51:51 <tiberiusiv>	1000 is highly improbable
Mar 20 20:52:00 <benkay>	disagree. 1000 is inevitable.
Mar 20 20:52:02 <[\\\]>	thats what they said about gold
Mar 20 20:52:07 <mircea_popescu>	inevitable, yes, but not short term.
Mar 20 20:52:14 <benkay>	not in vars :)
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Mar 20 20:52:23 <Chaang-Noi>	im willing to wait 2 to 5 years for 1000
Mar 20 20:52:26 <TomServo>	what is short term in bitcoin time?
Mar 20 20:52:26 <[\\\]>	not inevitable
Mar 20 20:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv suppose the us fucks up. such as, california actually defaults.
Mar 20 20:52:41 <tiberiusiv>	california has very little debt
Mar 20 20:52:45 <[\\\]>	illinois will default before california
Mar 20 20:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	i've not been watching too closely.
Mar 20 20:52:56 <benkay>	whaddabout detroit?
Mar 20 20:52:57 <mircea_popescu>	texas defaults.
Mar 20 20:52:57 <tiberiusiv>	its like 150 billion
Mar 20 20:53:05 <[\\\]>	detroit already defaulted, no?
Mar 20 20:53:09 <tiberiusiv>	defaults are dollar positive
Mar 20 20:53:11 <mircea_popescu>	twice iirc
Mar 20 20:53:19 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv how do you figure ?
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Mar 20 20:53:27 <jcpham>	i heard bitcoin outperforms gold
Mar 20 20:53:27 <TomServo>	last i heard the state wanted to 'take over' detroit
Mar 20 20:53:34 <[\\\]>	they already did
Mar 20 20:53:35 <Chaang-Noi>	it did
Mar 20 20:53:41 <jcpham>	for like the first time in millenia
Mar 20 20:53:51 <tiberiusiv>	during a default fractional reserve lending works backwards and fiat dollars are destroyed, making the existing ones worth more
Mar 20 20:54:03 <tiberiusiv>	the surviving ones that is
Mar 20 20:54:06 <tiberiusiv>	thats what happend in late 08
Mar 20 20:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv yes but we're not discussing that
Mar 20 20:54:11 <jcpham>	paradigm shift
Mar 20 20:54:18 <jcpham>	shiney metal less valuable
Mar 20 20:54:20 <jcpham>	newsflash
Mar 20 20:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	we're discussing perception. the 50-65 runup was pretty much all cyprus media circus
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Mar 20 20:54:50 <TomServo>	and FinCEN, right?
Mar 20 20:54:57 <jcpham>	maybe
Mar 20 20:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, but frankly i don't think anyone from outside much cared
Mar 20 20:55:04 <tiberiusiv>	1000 bitcoin would mean the daily trade volume would have to be at least 100mil
Mar 20 20:55:08 <mircea_popescu>	fincen is important for insiders mostly.
Mar 20 20:55:23 <the-bucket-shop>	I think 50-65 was FinCEN saying it's not illegal to accept btc
Mar 20 20:55:27 <tiberiusiv>	there would have to be huge liquidity
Mar 20 20:55:29 <[\\\]>	most people don't even really understand what fincen means
Mar 20 20:55:34 <TomServo>	I think the topic being mentioned at that level means something at least.
Mar 20 20:55:47 <jcpham>	bitcoin foundation blog say ignore it kinda
Mar 20 20:55:51 <jcpham>	iana
Mar 20 20:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] has it. fincen is important for people in the know. deeply in the know
Mar 20 20:56:10 <[\\\]>	hell, half the people in the know don't know
Mar 20 20:56:18 <jcpham>	^
Mar 20 20:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	well that's because there's two knows.
Mar 20 20:56:30 <[\\\]>	the report released right now is only guidance
Mar 20 20:56:34 <[\\\]>	nothing's technically changed
Mar 20 20:56:38 <[\\\]>	but something could change
Mar 20 20:56:39 <tiberiusiv>	fincen recieves so many suspiscious transactions a day its impossible to analyze them all
Mar 20 20:56:45 <jcpham>	america is one big ?
Mar 20 20:56:52 <jcpham>	then there is the rest of the world
Mar 20 20:56:54 <[\\\]>	jcpham: fuckyup?
Mar 20 20:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham oneplus.
Mar 20 20:57:00 <tiberiusiv>	kind of like the stazi in east germany, they collected so much data on people it just overwhelmed them and they couldnt do anything
Mar 20 20:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv they didn't collect it lol. peopel just kept calling it in.
Mar 20 20:57:34 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 20 20:57:56 <tiberiusiv>	government bodies tend to be highly ineffective
Mar 20 20:58:25 <jcpham>	means to an end
Mar 20 20:58:33 <jcpham>	effectiveness is in the ends
Mar 20 20:58:53 <jcpham>	they've grown ineffetive
Mar 20 20:59:24 <Chaang-Noi>	FinCEN to me means soon large investers, lije hedge funds will pour money in, might be happening now
Mar 20 20:59:27 <[\\\]>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.msg1650310#msg1650310
Mar 20 20:59:37 <[\\\]>	Chaang-Noi: shouldn't you be off with your rice?
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Mar 20 20:59:57 <jcpham>	bitcoin has been perfect for hedging since day one
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Mar 20 21:00:10 <TomServo>	regarding cyprus, how in the WORLD does a topic like that just get bandied about in politics?
Mar 20 21:00:13 <Chaang-Noi>	but hard to pour in millions and millions
Mar 20 21:00:14 <jcpham>	volatility,laws, and time are the problems
Mar 20 21:00:17 <tiberiusiv>	chaang-noi: if that was true we would see tighter bid/asks
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Mar 20 21:00:40 <tiberiusiv>	doesnt take much to knock the price back to 50
Mar 20 21:00:43 <Chaang-Noi>	right now they are all buyers, they have noting to sell yet
Mar 20 21:00:45 <jcpham>	[\\\] haters gon hate
Mar 20 21:00:57 <[\\\]>	jcpham: I actually thought he made a good point
Mar 20 21:01:29 <tiberiusiv>	i thought the depositers got a great deal in cyrpys
Mar 20 21:01:31 <tiberiusiv>	cyprus*
Mar 20 21:01:43 <jcpham>	i'm still reading
Mar 20 21:01:46 <jcpham>	last comment
Mar 20 21:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] of course he has a point. old elite gettingstomped is always a good time to nostalgia.
Mar 20 21:02:55 <[\\\]>	all the fail in the community isn't a good thing.
Mar 20 21:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2364 @ 0.00073845 = 1.7457 BTC [-]
Mar 20 21:04:07 <jcpham>	wait... who is the community again
Mar 20 21:04:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4286 @ 0.00073772 = 3.1619 BTC [-]
Mar 20 21:04:13 <mircea_popescu>	come on midnightmagic, here it is : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.msg1649131#msg1649131
Mar 20 21:04:18 <jcpham>	i thought everyone had their own walled gardens by now
Mar 20 21:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	i have this delicious crow stu, you hungry yet ?
Mar 20 21:04:32 <[\\\]>	jcpham: I forgot this was compuserve
Mar 20 21:04:51 <jcpham>	should've built your castle by now
Mar 20 21:04:58 <jcpham>	complete with moat
Mar 20 21:05:25 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: why did you choose to return to romania vs other EU destinations?
Mar 20 21:05:40 <jcpham>	in the age of kings who is your ally?
Mar 20 21:06:00 <[\\\]>	my moat runneth deap
Mar 20 21:06:09 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv timisoara particularly is conveniently placed.
Mar 20 21:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	let me dig the article up for you
Mar 20 21:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-i-raspundem-dara-tinarului/#comment-86305
Mar 20 21:07:09 <[\\\]>	.bait
Mar 20 21:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	if gt fucks it up too badly i'll clarify.
Mar 20 21:07:17 <[\\\]>	what happened to that bot? :(
Mar 20 21:07:29 <jcpham>	dude that blog is in funny symbols
Mar 20 21:07:43 <jcpham>	what does it mean brah
Mar 20 21:08:49 <mircea_popescu>	it's a mystery
Mar 20 21:09:10 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: personal freedoms in RO vs US?
Mar 20 21:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	there's personal freedoms in the us ?
Mar 20 21:09:52 <jcpham>	what is th 2006-2007 cacriza
Mar 20 21:09:57 <jcpham>	wtf are you talking about
Mar 20 21:10:00 <mircea_popescu>	that crisis
Mar 20 21:10:10 <jcpham>	is this vortex mathmatics
Mar 20 21:10:17 <jcpham>	i heard about that on a TEd talk once
Mar 20 21:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham secret hashing recipe
Mar 20 21:11:13 <tiberiusiv>	i think you made a good choice vs new zealand
Mar 20 21:11:47 <jcpham>	http://youtu.be/7pvuTZ5u6Kg
Mar 20 21:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv let me give you a very good example that just happened recently.
Mar 20 21:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-love-romania-a-guide-for-the-us-citizen/
Mar 20 21:13:09 <jcpham>	photons don't have mass mircea_popescu
Mar 20 21:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	depends what definition of mass you use
Mar 20 21:13:33 <jcpham>	you should really watch that youtube
Mar 20 21:13:43 <jcpham>	learn something new for the oix metrics
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Mar 20 21:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 20 21:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	each oix weighs approximately the same as a sheep.
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Mar 20 21:19:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.91 = 2.73 BTC [+]
Mar 20 21:20:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.92 BTC [+]
Mar 20 21:20:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.92 BTC [+]
Mar 20 21:20:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.92 = 3.68 BTC [+]
Mar 20 21:20:42 <Chaang-Noi>	low 90s nice
Mar 20 21:20:57 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: how is the cost of living there?
Mar 20 21:21:00 <Chaang-Noi>	if add in the dividends that is like 1 btc a share
Mar 20 21:21:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.928 BTC [+]
Mar 20 21:22:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.921 BTC [-]
Mar 20 21:22:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.921 BTC [-]
Mar 20 21:23:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9289 BTC [+]
Mar 20 21:23:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.929 = 2.787 BTC [+]
Mar 20 21:24:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.929 = 2.787 BTC [+]
Mar 20 21:25:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.929 BTC [+]
Mar 20 21:25:03 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv minimum wage ~500 lei / month. comes to 150 bux
Mar 20 21:25:39 <tiberiusiv>	how do people eat?
Mar 20 21:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.47249999 BTC [-]
Mar 20 21:26:03 <Namworld>	Cheaper prices...
Mar 20 21:26:46 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: they are in the EU so any cheaper goods would get exported out
Mar 20 21:26:55 <Chaang-Noi>	average wage here is $200 a month
Mar 20 21:26:58 <dub>	out of tubes in the case of fish
Mar 20 21:27:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.195 = 0.585 BTC [-]
Mar 20 21:27:15 <tiberiusiv>	chaang: thailand?
Mar 20 21:27:20 <Chaang-Noi>	150 a month in europe seems low
Mar 20 21:27:23 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah thailand
Mar 20 21:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv about like italians, maybe a little better.
Mar 20 21:27:59 <mircea_popescu>	certainly has the world's best champagne, for instance.
Mar 20 21:28:20 <tiberiusiv>	price for pack of marlboro reds?
Mar 20 21:28:25 <mircea_popescu>	lots of agricultural tradition, probably the oldest continuously farmed land in europe outside of italy proper.
Mar 20 21:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	like 3-4 dollars in the supermarkets.
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Mar 20 21:31:03 <tiberiusiv>	i find it hard to believe you can survive on 150 a month
Mar 20 21:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	you can't.
Mar 20 21:31:37 <mircea_popescu>	that's the entire fucking point.
Mar 20 21:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	money has no value if everyone can survive on minimal wage. that's socialism.
Mar 20 21:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	you want to survive, you'd better start doing something useful.
Mar 20 21:32:21 <tiberiusiv>	guess youve got a point
Mar 20 21:32:29 <tiberiusiv>	whats the average salary then?
Mar 20 21:32:39 <Namworld>	People here can survive on minimum wage =/
Mar 20 21:32:44 <Namworld>	Same for US I guess.
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Mar 20 21:33:04 <tiberiusiv>	in US its somewhat possible
Mar 20 21:33:13 <tiberiusiv>	but youd be living in near 3rd world level
Mar 20 21:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv about 500 bux
Mar 20 21:33:25 <TomServo>	easily possible once you starting cracking out the kids
Mar 20 21:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld that's precisely why canada/us suck.
Mar 20 21:33:30 <dub>	jesus
Mar 20 21:33:42 <dub>	pack of smoeks is ~$20 here
Mar 20 21:33:52 <dub>	smokes*
Mar 20 21:33:52 <tiberiusiv>	13 in canada when i was there
Mar 20 21:34:00 <tiberiusiv>	and min wage was like $11
Mar 20 21:34:05 <mircea_popescu>	you can just plant your own tobacco, costs you about 1 cent per leaf or something
Mar 20 21:34:26 <smickles>	i lived on min wage once
Mar 20 21:34:27 <tiberiusiv>	canadian mcdonalds were pretty automated from the high minimum wage
Mar 20 21:34:36 <mircea_popescu>	it's not very good of course, but it's way better than any industrial crap.
Mar 20 21:34:42 <smickles>	i worked at a taco bell, saved up some money, bought some land
Mar 20 21:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno who still smokes ciggarettes with all the stuff they add
Mar 20 21:35:08 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: you cant survive on min wage in the US
Mar 20 21:35:12 <smickles>	there are cigs available w/o the additives
Mar 20 21:35:17 <Namworld>	Ah.
Mar 20 21:35:38 <Namworld>	Seems odd... I thought most were on or near minimum wage in most countries.
Mar 20 21:35:48 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 20 21:36:00 <tiberiusiv>	average US wage is about 22-24 per hour
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Mar 20 21:36:46 <smickles>	min wage in 'merica is sufficient for survival if you arn't a fucking dumbass
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Mar 20 21:37:07 <tiberiusiv>	what state? maybe in mississipi
Mar 20 21:37:12 <smickles>	missouri
Mar 20 21:37:17 <Namworld>	If you don't: Drink, smoke
Mar 20 21:37:21 <smickles>	i did tho
Mar 20 21:37:22 <Namworld>	and share an appartment
Mar 20 21:37:25 <smickles>	i didn't
Mar 20 21:37:34 <Namworld>	minimum wage is way more than needed...
Mar 20 21:37:35 <tiberiusiv>	dumpster dive
Mar 20 21:37:48 <tiberiusiv>	what planet are you living on namworld?
Mar 20 21:37:57 <Namworld>	Canada
Mar 20 21:38:06 <smickles>	I had a 1 room apt until i had enought to buy a plot of land and a cheep ass trailor
Mar 20 21:38:20 <tiberiusiv>	in canada you have to work 1 week @ minimum wage just to pay for car insurance
Mar 20 21:38:26 <dub>	in soviet canukistan wage minimums you
Mar 20 21:38:38 <tiberiusiv>	a pack of chips is like $4
Mar 20 21:38:39 <Namworld>	1 room appartment is too costly. Take a large one with co-tenants
Mar 20 21:38:53 <smickles>	1 room apt was 250/month
Mar 20 21:38:58 <tiberiusiv>	500sq ft apartments in toronto rent for like 1500
Mar 20 21:39:10 <dub>	thats a big appt
Mar 20 21:39:14 <Namworld>	Well don't go live in fucking toronto downtown.
Mar 20 21:39:16 <dub>	oh wait, foot
Mar 20 21:39:25 <dub>	silly imperials
Mar 20 21:39:30 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: anywhere else you need a car which is impossible to afford on min wage
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Mar 20 21:39:38 <tiberiusiv>	i was just in ontario for a few months
Mar 20 21:39:46 <smickles>	i had to have a car
Mar 20 21:39:51 <smickles>	i bought one for 300 usd
Mar 20 21:39:57 <smickles>	kept good care of it
Mar 20 21:40:02 <smickles>	upgraded to a scooter
Mar 20 21:40:03 <tiberiusiv>	its impossible to live in canada without a car
Mar 20 21:40:16 <smickles>	later a van
Mar 20 21:40:17 <tiberiusiv>	people were paying 200-400 a month in insurance from 1-2 speeding tickets lol
Mar 20 21:40:54 <tiberiusiv>	20 per hour is poverty in canada imo
Mar 20 21:40:55 <smickles>	the scooter was awesome b/c it had a small enough engine that the state considered it a bicycle
Mar 20 21:40:58 <smickles>	no insurance
Mar 20 21:41:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-we-aspersor/
Mar 20 21:41:35 <tiberiusiv>	i was shocked how canadians live too
Mar 20 21:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	for the lulz.
Mar 20 21:41:46 <Namworld>	You can rent for 500 USD/month and have a 80$ monthly pass for public transit. Minimum wage is 10$ per hour so 400 per week or over 1600 per month. Cut 25% in taxes.
Mar 20 21:41:48 <tiberiusiv>	up at 6am to sit in traffic for 2 hours
Mar 20 21:41:53 <smickles>	i worke with plenty of people who couldn't manage their money, in their case 7.5/hr was not enough
Mar 20 21:42:02 <Namworld>	1200 per month... you can live on that no problem in canada.
Mar 20 21:42:08 <smickles>	plus, they often refused to work more than 20hrs a week
Mar 20 21:42:29 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: you realize thats 50% below government povery line?
Mar 20 21:42:47 <mircea_popescu>	smickles> upgraded to a scooter ahahaha
Mar 20 21:42:49 <tiberiusiv>	canadian government classifies under 24k a year income as poverty
Mar 20 21:42:54 <Namworld>	What poverty line? You lack nothing on minimum wages.
Mar 20 21:43:03 <dub>	I pay $1400/m in rent
Mar 20 21:43:03 <jborkl>	minimun wage pays effective federal tax
Mar 20 21:43:07 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: it was a better vehicle than the 82 mazda b2000
Mar 20 21:43:07 <tiberiusiv>	the high min wage means prices are sky high
Mar 20 21:43:12 <jborkl>	no
Mar 20 21:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	dub i pay like triple that in servers.
Mar 20 21:43:16 <Namworld>	That may be. But it's feasible if you don't waste money.
Mar 20 21:43:21 <tiberiusiv>	you cant legislate prosperity
Mar 20 21:43:28 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: eating is wasting money?
Mar 20 21:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	the only thing you can legislate is laziness.
Mar 20 21:43:33 <jborkl>	minimum wage is 8 or so
Mar 20 21:43:36 <dub>	mircea_popescu: thats business expense not personal
Mar 20 21:43:40 <Namworld>	It's freakin not waste!
Mar 20 21:43:44 <tiberiusiv>	minimum wage in ontario was 10.50+ last time i was there
Mar 20 21:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	dub i get personal about busienss
Mar 20 21:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4864 @ 0.00073772 = 3.5883 BTC [-]
Mar 20 21:43:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7782 @ 0.00073752 = 5.7394 BTC [-]
Mar 20 21:43:50 <tiberiusiv>	a mcdonalds meal came to $10
Mar 20 21:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8258 @ 0.00073383 = 6.06 BTC [-]
Mar 20 21:44:04 <jborkl>	realistic lowest wage paid to a adult is about 11
Mar 20 21:44:06 <smickles>	10.5 cad, wow
Mar 20 21:44:15 <tiberiusiv>	pack of smokes $12, chips $4
Mar 20 21:44:17 <dub>	mircea_popescu: I pay a lot more than that in mortgage repayments too
Mar 20 21:44:20 <Namworld>	WTF MAN! You don't need a freakin 1500/month appartment or eat 10$ meals at McD to survive!
Mar 20 21:44:27 <tiberiusiv>	car insurance 200-400 on a honda civic per month
Mar 20 21:44:34 <Namworld>	Chips are not 4$ and smokes... well really, smoking does cost a lot.
Mar 20 21:44:39 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: mcdonalds is cheaper then groceries
Mar 20 21:44:55 <Namworld>	NO, for fuck's sake, NO!
Mar 20 21:45:00 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: are you aware an average home costs 650,000 in ontario?
Mar 20 21:45:06 <smickles>	yeah, a good part of how i did well on 7.5/hr was that i cooked my own meals, had a veggie garden
Mar 20 21:45:08 <Namworld>	No car on minimum wage, but public transit, what's wrong with that?
Mar 20 21:45:11 <Chaang-Noi>	in australia shit is crazy high cuz of the boom, i was told about 12$ bananas
Mar 20 21:45:14 <smickles>	lived outside the city
Mar 20 21:45:24 <tiberiusiv>	canadians survive on credit cards and home loans
Mar 20 21:45:32 <Namworld>	Well don't buy a 650k house in Ontario man...
Mar 20 21:45:33 <tiberiusiv>	ive never seen such a population loaded on credit
Mar 20 21:45:46 <Chaang-Noi>	in AU a guy drives a truck on a mine and makes $150k a year...
Mar 20 21:45:50 <smickles>	serfs
Mar 20 21:45:57 <jborkl>	alot of the us is too big for public transportation
Mar 20 21:45:57 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv the us isnt much better.
Mar 20 21:46:20 <tiberiusiv>	public transportation sucks unless its those 300km/h trains
Mar 20 21:46:26 <smickles>	he who can manage his money is god among men
Mar 20 21:46:31 <smickles>	apparently
Mar 20 21:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	smickles among women.
Mar 20 21:46:55 <Chaang-Noi>	bitches like money
Mar 20 21:46:56 <smickles>	discount the eunics
Mar 20 21:47:03 <smickles>	spelling -_-
Mar 20 21:47:12 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: in canada to live well, ie go on vacation once a year and have stuff you need to earn 15k a month pretax
Mar 20 21:47:43 <tiberiusiv>	or else you just grinding paycheck to paycheck
Mar 20 21:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile 15k a year in romania gets you two households with their women and children
Mar 20 21:47:55 <Namworld>	15k a month? are you crazy?
Mar 20 21:48:09 <dub>	if you think eating mcdonals 3 meals a day is living well..
Mar 20 21:48:12 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: i lived there for 2 years
Mar 20 21:48:22 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: i don't know you, but you might benefit by traveling a little
Mar 20 21:48:26 <tiberiusiv>	dub: poor people eat mcdonalds in canada
Mar 20 21:48:37 <smickles>	why?
Mar 20 21:48:38 <tiberiusiv>	for $10 you get enough calories for the day
Mar 20 21:48:39 <mircea_popescu>	the internet still the great social class mixer i see, bringing together those who otherwise would never meet.
Mar 20 21:48:47 <smickles>	why not eat boiled potatoes or smt
Mar 20 21:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	smickles scurvy
Mar 20 21:49:04 <Namworld>	tiberius: I can do the same on 2.5 per day if I wanted on regular groceries...
Mar 20 21:49:18 <tiberiusiv>	man how many times are you going to repeat that
Mar 20 21:49:19 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: an orange can't be that hard to come by
Mar 20 21:49:24 <Namworld>	I like a little bit of luxury in my diet tho.
Mar 20 21:49:38 <tiberiusiv>	toronto for example is more expensive then NYC
Mar 20 21:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	yes. octopussy salad!
Mar 20 21:49:44 <dub>	yall niggas nee aquaponics
Mar 20 21:49:44 <tiberiusiv>	with half the income
Mar 20 21:49:58 <dub>	grow food and FISH
Mar 20 21:50:44 <smickles>	dub: fishing is awesome, even when since i had enough money to not have to do it, i still like pulling a fish out of the river for dinner
Mar 20 21:50:55 <Namworld>	There's tons of people living on less than 2k per month that don't lack anything. They have plenty of food, decent appartment, everything they need. You don't need 15k per month to survive. If you can't live without that kind of money... well really, I don't know what to say.
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Mar 20 21:51:09 <dub>	smickles: I go fishing maybe once a wekk avg over summer
Mar 20 21:51:13 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Toronto&country2=Romania&city2=Timisoara
Mar 20 21:51:37 <dub>	smickles: got a kayak setup with sonar etc
Mar 20 21:51:50 <tiberiusiv>	You would need around 6,552.20lei (1,967.29C$) in Timisoara to maintain
Mar 20 21:51:50 <tiberiusiv>	the same standard of life that you can have with 4,900.00C$ in Toronto
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Mar 20 21:52:00 <smickles>	dub: lol, i just need to look at the water/land to know where the fish are
Mar 20 21:52:19 <dub>	well the fact that you said river..
Mar 20 21:52:34 <mircea_popescu>	you can;'t realy compare romanian local cheese to canadian tho
Mar 20 21:52:35 <smickles>	i usually walk the bank
Mar 20 21:52:42 <dub>	I prefer salt water fish
Mar 20 21:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	romanian cheese is like the expensive imported french gourmet stuff
Mar 20 21:52:59 <Namworld>	I thought the point was about having enough to live by without living from check to check
Mar 20 21:53:17 <tiberiusiv>	surviving on min wage in ontario is impossible
Mar 20 21:53:31 <tiberiusiv>	youd have to get third hand clothes
Mar 20 21:53:45 <tiberiusiv>	wait behind restaurants for unfinished plates
Mar 20 21:53:49 <smickles>	cuz you can't survive w/ 3rd hand clothes
Mar 20 21:54:17 <Namworld>	I think you mean Toronto, really. Not Ontario...
Mar 20 21:54:38 <tiberiusiv>	you need a car in ontario and the running cost is high
Mar 20 21:55:03 <tiberiusiv>	that would eat up 50% of your min wage salary
Mar 20 21:55:10 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg1650521#msg1650521
Mar 20 21:55:12 <kakobrekla>	BFL update
Mar 20 21:55:15 <kakobrekla>	or sumtn
Mar 20 21:55:16 <tiberiusiv>	in fuel, gas repairs
Mar 20 21:55:20 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 20 21:55:30 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: did you fix that url in 'strategic superiority'
Mar 20 21:55:38 <smickles>	s/url/link/
Mar 20 21:55:54 <Namworld>	tiberius... I don't know of anybody with a car costing them 600 per month...
Mar 20 21:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ye
Mar 20 21:56:28 <Chaang-Noi>	lol at prototype, and lol anyone who is shocked at this, they claimed they never had anyhting working, and if their chip run was bad, ohhh lulz
Mar 20 21:56:30 <Namworld>	and you don't need a car, it is almost impossible on minimum wage.
Mar 20 21:56:42 <Namworld>	Although a bit cheaper than what you say.
Mar 20 21:56:52 <Namworld>	Unless you buy a new car every few years
Mar 20 21:56:55 <tiberiusiv>	if you are poor i think you are better off being poor in US then canada
Mar 20 21:57:08 <tiberiusiv>	because you can move to a warm state and at least have the climate
Mar 20 21:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	by early to mid next week. Should be pretty smooth sailing after that."
Mar 20 21:57:19 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha this is the 100th time
Mar 20 21:57:32 <kakobrekla>	150th.
Mar 20 21:57:36 <Namworld>	idk about Toronto because I've never seen the prices there.
Mar 20 21:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	hey, this is how they get the th!
Mar 20 21:57:47 <dub>	tbh, you don't prototype an asic
Mar 20 21:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	dub you just wish it real hard.
Mar 20 21:58:48 <dub>	you know what im saying
Mar 20 21:59:22 <Namworld>	But really, from what I know, you're not on 3rd hand clothes or living on fast food on minimum wage. You have plenty of good food, new clothes, decent appartment and eveything on a minimum wage. No car, no vacation. But you have enough money, can spare to make savings and have sufficient extra money to spoil yourself a bit.
Mar 20 21:59:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9289 BTC [-]
Mar 20 21:59:40 <Namworld>	Maybe not in Toronto
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Mar 20 22:00:08 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: you are so full of it im not going to continue, the government in canada classifies anyone under 22k a year as poverty
Mar 20 22:00:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.929 BTC [+]
Mar 20 22:00:17 <Namworld>	But those price you mentions are not representative of what I'm accustomed to.
Mar 20 22:00:21 <tiberiusiv>	the prices were high for everything there
Mar 20 22:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	2k * 12 = 24 k tho
Mar 20 22:00:46 <tiberiusiv>	namworld you must be living in the middle of nowhere, self sufficient
Mar 20 22:01:03 <tiberiusiv>	public transport is none existant in ontario
Mar 20 22:01:07 <tiberiusiv>	the trains are 50 years old
Mar 20 22:01:08 <Namworld>	I live in Montreal.
Mar 20 22:01:20 <tiberiusiv>	well montreal is a little different
Mar 20 22:01:24 <tiberiusiv>	and thats in quebec
Mar 20 22:01:31 <Namworld>	It's also Canada.
Mar 20 22:01:37 <tiberiusiv>	quebec cost of living is 30-40% lower then ontario since half the population is poor
Mar 20 22:01:47 <tiberiusiv>	and montreal is more european then american
Mar 20 22:02:08 <Namworld>	Your prices are for Toronto. And toronto jobs tend to pay much more than minimum wages. So are living costs.
Mar 20 22:02:23 <tiberiusiv>	min wage in quebec is like $4 isnt it?
Mar 20 22:02:26 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg1650582#msg1650582
Mar 20 22:02:29 <Namworld>	10$
Mar 20 22:02:41 <Namworld>	I think it got raised recently, maybe more than that.
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Mar 20 22:03:11 <ThickAsThieves>	!ticker
Mar 20 22:03:12 <assbot>	Some are born to endless night.
Mar 20 22:03:25 <ThickAsThieves>	!estimate
Mar 20 22:03:36 <ThickAsThieves>	&ticker
Mar 20 22:03:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.65552, Best ask: 64.74999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09447, Last trade: 64.74999, 24 hour volume: 92565.60276454, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.28030
Mar 20 22:03:39 <assbot>	ill estimate you!
Mar 20 22:03:43 <Namworld>	oh, $9.90, 10.15 starting may 1st
Mar 20 22:04:27 <Namworld>	You probably struggle on minimum wage in Toronto, but wages are higher there, just like rents.
Mar 20 22:04:49 <tiberiusiv>	quebec has 20% youth unemployment rate thanks to the min wage
Mar 20 22:04:50 <Namworld>	Possibly the same in Vancouver.
Mar 20 22:05:05 <tiberiusiv>	10 min wage in a poor place like QC lol only in canada
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Mar 20 22:07:02 <Namworld>	QC ain't really poorer than the rest of Canada.
Mar 20 22:07:22 <tiberiusiv>	montreal is probably my favorite city in canada
Mar 20 22:07:41 <Namworld>	We're talking about something like 1/8th less than Ontario I think.
Mar 20 22:07:56 <Namworld>	Per capita
Mar 20 22:07:58 <tiberiusiv>	the roads are third world though in QC
Mar 20 22:08:13 <Namworld>	oh... yeah. Roads ain't nice
Mar 20 22:08:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.05710373 = 57.1037 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:08:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.0512055 = 51.2055 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.0512055 = 51.2055 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:08:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.0512055 = 51.2055 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:08:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.0512055 = 51.2055 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 22:11:11 <Namworld>	I think we might just not have the same definition of minimum needed.
Mar 20 22:11:29 <smickles>	woah, what is the table trader doing
Mar 20 22:11:42 <smickles>	at face value, that looks like a hard short
Mar 20 22:11:44 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 20 22:11:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.30000, Best ask: 64.40174, Bid-ask spread: 0.10174, Last trade: 64.40175, 24 hour volume: 92312.92023534, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.32727
Mar 20 22:11:55 <Namworld>	or Toronto prices are really high... but wages there are among the highests in Canada.
Mar 20 22:12:00 <smickles>	;;calc 55/(1-.057)
Mar 20 22:12:01 <gribble>	58.3244962884
Mar 20 22:12:08 <smickles>	;;calc 55/(1.057)
Mar 20 22:12:08 <gribble>	52.0340586566
Mar 20 22:12:23 <smickles>	;;calc 47/(1.051)
Mar 20 22:12:23 <gribble>	44.7193149382
Mar 20 22:12:51 <smickles>	i guess that was cutting losses from earlier ?
Mar 20 22:12:52 <smickles>	??
Mar 20 22:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.05693195 = 56.932 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:13:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.05359251 = 53.5925 BTC [+]
Mar 20 22:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.05359251 = 53.5925 BTC [+]
Mar 20 22:13:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.05359251 = 53.5925 BTC [+]
Mar 20 22:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i think this is shorts being closed
Mar 20 22:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.05359251 = 53.5925 BTC [+]
Mar 20 22:13:31 <tiberiusiv>	really would like to see a stronger bid wall
Mar 20 22:13:48 <smickles>	ah, i see that on the chart now
Mar 20 22:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	iirc these were sold at ~ .2-.3
Mar 20 22:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	i guess he's buying it back on the theory that he doesn't want to earn that last .05 at the risk of one full week
Mar 20 22:14:10 <smickles>	certainly
Mar 20 22:14:12 <tiberiusiv>	great short
Mar 20 22:15:02 <pizzaman1337>	is the fourth friday not the 22nd?
Mar 20 22:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	last friday of month
Mar 20 22:15:14 <pizzaman1337>	ah, I thought I read fourth
Mar 20 22:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	if you did link me
Mar 20 22:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P050T
Mar 20 22:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	All options expire on the last minute of the last Friday of their month (UTC times).
Mar 20 22:15:57 <mircea_popescu>	like
Mar 20 22:16:14 <kakobrekla>	> goat: well yeah, you know, this almost sounds like a scam :/ [on BFL] <- lol your standards
Mar 20 22:17:08 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: maybe I'm not interpreting this correctly, but from stat: "To which add sums deposited as surety for 4th Friday settled option and future contracts"
Mar 20 22:17:33 <smickles>	futures are diff
Mar 20 22:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	i guess that should read last friday huh
Mar 20 22:17:46 <pizzaman1337>	:P
Mar 20 22:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	thing is, to make the thing real crazy, futures (the fiat ones) used to be settled 4th friday
Mar 20 22:18:06 <pizzaman1337>	I was wondering why the options mpexbot had up seemed high
Mar 20 22:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	and the diff ones are settled imm dates
Mar 20 22:18:42 <smickles>	futures are diff, love the pun
Mar 20 22:18:43 <smickles>	:D
Mar 20 22:18:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 20 22:19:26 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 20 22:19:27 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 56.18724421 high: 57.56498348 low: 51.19715374 volume: 10790 btc: 1011.43642332 30 day: no data
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Mar 20 22:20:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.05682571 = 56.8257 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.05351801 = 53.518 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.05351801 = 53.518 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.05351801 = 53.518 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.05351801 = 53.518 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:21:28 <error4733>	gentleman be ready ! i'm bullish but i smell a huge correction !
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Mar 20 22:21:47 <error4733>	*hope
Mar 20 22:22:05 <tiberiusiv>	could easily go back to 50
Mar 20 22:22:15 <tiberiusiv>	the bids are really thin
Mar 20 22:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	yeah it's quite possible.
Mar 20 22:22:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 20 22:22:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.10001, Best ask: 64.38999, Bid-ask spread: 0.28998, Last trade: 64.38999, 24 hour volume: 91573.17154420, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.35274
Mar 20 22:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	actually already moving back a little.
Mar 20 22:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	"Given that Krugman is against bitcoin, the thing is certain to succeed."
Mar 20 22:24:42 <pizzaman1337>	the mpex bot didn't price all of those options at 0.05351801, did it? how did they close at that level? (did the person trading have limit orders?)
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Mar 20 22:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 it did
Mar 20 22:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	if you look at the book all puts under 50 or so sell for 0.05351801
Mar 20 22:28:47 <Namworld>	yup
Mar 20 22:28:53 <pizzaman1337>	why the same level?
Mar 20 22:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 because it needs to protect the book.
Mar 20 22:29:29 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise you could go 100k btc into mpoe bonds, then just buy cheap options and siphon interest away
Mar 20 22:29:46 <pizzaman1337>	ah
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Mar 20 22:30:30 <Namworld>	true. There's a minimum price for options.
Mar 20 22:32:10 <jcpham>	so vortex math
Mar 20 22:32:13 <jcpham>	thoughts
Mar 20 22:32:23 <PAPASO>	hi,any chinese friend here?
Mar 20 22:32:33 <mircea_popescu>	not unless rick comes by PAPASO
Mar 20 22:32:47 <PAPASO>	这里有咱国人吗？
Mar 20 22:32:57 <mircea_popescu>	i'm sorry, i don't speak chinese.
Mar 20 22:33:00 <mircea_popescu>	what do you need tho ?
Mar 20 22:33:06 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: lol, you hate the chiners?
Mar 20 22:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	i do ?
Mar 20 22:33:26 <smickles>	heh, it's just the way you answered
Mar 20 22:33:28 <PAPASO>	yes, i want to trade option
Mar 20 22:33:34 <mircea_popescu>	that's not too hard.
Mar 20 22:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	do you have a mpex account ?
Mar 20 22:33:43 <Namworld>	BTC/USD options? MPEx
Mar 20 22:33:57 <smickles>	it could be implied that noone here is friendly to the chinese other than rick. which isn't true ofc
Mar 20 22:34:00 <PAPASO>	buy i dont know how to use this system
Mar 20 22:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	there is a faq chinese version tho.
Mar 20 22:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq_cn.html
Mar 20 22:34:33 <mircea_popescu>	not sure how good it is, but should mostly work.
Mar 20 22:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1146 @ 0.00072637 = 0.8324 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	you can also contact the guy for help.
Mar 20 22:34:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133 @ 0.00072637 = 0.0966 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:34:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00071967 = 1.7272 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:34:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071778 = 7.1778 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:34:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 725 @ 0.05677964 = 41.1652 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 725 @ 0.05225451 = 37.8845 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:34:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 725 @ 0.05225451 = 37.8845 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 725 @ 0.05225451 = 37.8845 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:35:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 725 @ 0.05225451 = 37.8845 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:36:16 <pizzaman1337>	if I'm doing my math right, it seems that person made > ~$100k? crazy
Mar 20 22:36:34 <smickles>	"There’s a reason supplying works a certain way. I order the goods, you deliver the goods within a couple of days and get paid within a couple of months. NOT the other way around. Never the other way around." mircea_popescu you must have a look at the kickstarter model
Mar 20 22:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what do you mean ?
Mar 20 22:37:07 <smickles>	you pay for and order the goods, then they company may or may not even make the product, if they do, you might not get it
Mar 20 22:37:11 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 i think about 5k x 5 x .20 or so btc
Mar 20 22:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	so prolly like 300k
Mar 20 22:37:36 <pizzaman1337>	oh, I must have missed some previous orders
Mar 20 22:37:39 <mircea_popescu>	smickles haha. that ain't a model
Mar 20 22:37:40 <pizzaman1337>	that's pretty awesome
Mar 20 22:37:45 <smickles>	pizzaman1337: the neat thing is they do it over and over
Mar 20 22:37:59 <pizzaman1337>	I need more BTC, I want to play this game too...
Mar 20 22:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	ya last month they lost like 5k i think
Mar 20 22:38:16 <Namworld>	It's a game with huge losses and huge gains...
Mar 20 22:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	as in, shorted puts, price collapsed, covered same day
Mar 20 22:38:30 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, that would hurt
Mar 20 22:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, you can make a pretty penny if you have the capital
Mar 20 22:39:07 <mircea_popescu>	and certainly huge roi
Mar 20 22:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	course... if you're wrong...
Mar 20 22:40:23 <mod6>	(19:24) < mircea_popescu> "Given that Krugman is against bitcoin, the thing is certain to succeed." << one of the best comments on that ZH article
Mar 20 22:40:28 <Chaang-Noi>	new high
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Mar 20 22:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 :p
Mar 20 22:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 20 22:40:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.20000, Best ask: 64.41999, Bid-ask spread: 0.21999, Last trade: 64.41999, 24 hour volume: 91269.99747505, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.38443
Mar 20 22:40:45 <Chaang-Noi>	oh nvm
Mar 20 22:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	notrly.
Mar 20 22:40:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i forgot we hit 66 when i was sleeping
Mar 20 22:41:02 <mod6>	well, i thought it was funny anyway.
Mar 20 22:41:25 <Chaang-Noi>	we spiked up to 65.3 and i got all tingely for nothing
Mar 20 22:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	so is Luke-Jr going back to bfl by early to mid next week ?
Mar 20 22:41:47 <Chaang-Noi>	lol he has to go back now?
Mar 20 22:41:54 <mircea_popescu>	well...
Mar 20 22:42:06 <Chaang-Noi>	why did he even go again?
Mar 20 22:42:10 <mircea_popescu>	they're making an entirely new pcb no ?
Mar 20 22:42:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess i dont understand what he is doing there
Mar 20 22:42:33 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi basically, he's trying to prop bfl.
Mar 20 22:42:47 <Chaang-Noi>	prop?
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Mar 20 22:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	course it's much like inaba trying to prop bfl, you don't prop flagging scams with retarded trolls.
Mar 20 22:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	to prop, you know, stick a bit of wood in the way of a collapsing wall
Mar 20 22:43:11 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i dont think that is going to work cuz they keep going home with nothiong
Mar 20 22:43:23 <tiberiusiv>	is BFL processing refunds?
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Mar 20 22:43:36 <Chaang-Noi>	in fiat if at all
Mar 20 22:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv so far they claim to.
Mar 20 22:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	but basically people get a 95% haircut if they refund, so...
Mar 20 22:43:59 <Chaang-Noi>	i think there is a rule that you have to wait 3 months after ordering or something
Mar 20 22:44:10 <Chaang-Noi>	but i have not seen many people bitching
Mar 20 22:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	no, they pretty much get to walk away with whatever they scammed off the idiots thinking they're the btc "community"
Mar 20 22:44:36 <tiberiusiv>	but the BTcs were instantly sold by bitpay
Mar 20 22:44:40 <Chaang-Noi>	your girl thinks bitcoin community = WoT
Mar 20 22:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi btc finance certainly is.
Mar 20 22:45:06 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 20 22:45:08 <tiberiusiv>	basic refunds were like 80% haircuts
Mar 20 22:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv pretty much.
Mar 20 22:45:26 <tiberiusiv>	BFL would be massively insolvent if they had to issue full BTC refunds
Mar 20 22:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	so then let's make a new deal : you can't refund btc, you can't take btc.
Mar 20 22:45:46 <Chaang-Noi>	friedcat has a W0T account? lulz
Mar 20 22:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	sell in fiat.
Mar 20 22:45:54 <tiberiusiv>	i agree mircea
Mar 20 22:46:00 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi you think he's in finance ?
Mar 20 22:46:03 <dub>	;;getrating friedcat
Mar 20 22:46:04 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Mar 20 22:46:14 <dub>	;;ident friedcat
Mar 20 22:46:14 <tiberiusiv>	well they used BTC as a medium of exchange
Mar 20 22:46:15 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Mar 20 22:46:31 <dub>	;;gpg info friedcat
Mar 20 22:46:31 <gribble>	No such user registered.
Mar 20 22:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv still a horrible deal.
Mar 20 22:46:37 <Chaang-Noi>	selling stock to get money to build a company, if that is not finance i dont know what it is
Mar 20 22:46:40 <tiberiusiv>	agreed
Mar 20 22:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	it's actually worse than the usual glbse / usagi crap.
Mar 20 22:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi it isn't. that's founding.
Mar 20 22:47:02 <tiberiusiv>	what ended up being the reason for glbse closing
Mar 20 22:47:05 <mircea_popescu>	he did it without advisory and he fucked it up pretty good.
Mar 20 22:47:12 <Chaang-Noi>	selling stock not finacne, okay
Mar 20 22:47:20 <tiberiusiv>	advisory?
Mar 20 22:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	you know how companies floating themselves retain the services of banks ?
Mar 20 22:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is because companies are not in finance, they are in whatever the fuck their ops are.
Mar 20 22:47:54 <mircea_popescu>	retail or services or making oil rigsd
Mar 20 22:47:59 <Chaang-Noi>	mp try this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finance
Mar 20 22:48:25 <Chaang-Noi>	friedcat did his own finance clearly, he did not hire a bank...
Mar 20 22:48:35 <Chaang-Noi>	he can do morethan 1 thing at 1 time...
Mar 20 22:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi how about you try http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/wikipedia-the-special-olympics-for-the-mentally-retarded/ instead.
Mar 20 22:49:09 <Chaang-Noi>	lose an argument, have nothing left but insults, classy :/
Mar 20 22:49:22 <Chaang-Noi>	at least i admit when i fuck up
Mar 20 22:49:27 <mircea_popescu>	you come quoting wikipedia in this discussion insults are too good a fate.
Mar 20 22:49:30 <smickles>	lol, that pic "wall street, the center of american finance" with what looks like a highwayman and a security camera looking the other way
Mar 20 22:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, tiberiusiv : nobody really knows. my theory is the head chav got a bad dose, went psychotic, thought da polis is after him, deleted everythign
Mar 20 22:50:18 <mircea_popescu>	probably flushed some usb sticks down the toilet too
Mar 20 22:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	in the heat of the moment.
Mar 20 22:50:27 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 20 22:50:34 <mod6>	haha smickles!
Mar 20 22:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	of course simple idiopathic schizophrenia always works as an explanation too. it doesn't have to be drugs.
Mar 20 22:51:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00070854 = 4.0387 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:51:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00069894 = 4.2489 BTC [-]
Mar 20 22:51:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.929 = 1.858 BTC [+]
Mar 20 22:51:38 <smickles>	typical onset is early adulthood, no?
Mar 20 22:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 20 22:51:43 <Chaang-Noi>	;;getrating usagi
Mar 20 22:51:44 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Usagi, rated since Mon Jun 18 09:33:55 2012. Cumulative rating 40, from 31 total ratings. Received ratings: 27 positive, 4 negative. Sent ratings: 41 positive, 4 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Usagi
Mar 20 22:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	well... 30s, 40s or 50s. the later the milder.
Mar 20 22:51:57 <Chaang-Noi>	ohh finance! i get it now
Mar 20 22:52:09 <mircea_popescu>	but usually there;'s episodes first, before full blown tableau.
Mar 20 22:52:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.93 = 4.65 BTC [+]
Mar 20 22:52:22 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi haha yes. usagi is in finance.
Mar 20 22:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	he just sucks at it massively.
Mar 20 22:52:50 <Chaang-Noi>	;;getrating pirateat40
Mar 20 22:52:51 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User pirateat40, rated since Mon Aug  1 14:18:45 2011. Cumulative rating -125, from 89 total ratings. Received ratings: 55 positive, 34 negative. Sent ratings: 65 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40
Mar 20 22:53:14 <Chaang-Noi>	;;getrating foodstamps
Mar 20 22:53:14 <smickles>	;;getrating f00d5t4mp
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Mar 20 22:53:16 <Chaang-Noi>	;;getrating foodstamp
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Mar 20 22:53:23 <smickles>	bah, how to spell
Mar 20 22:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi a better traversal tool would be ;;gettrust mircea_popescu X
Mar 20 22:53:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;getrating ThickAsThieves
Mar 20 22:53:34 <Chaang-Noi>	oh he did some wierd ass numbers or something
Mar 20 22:53:34 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User thickasthieves, rated since Sat Mar  2 08:19:18 2013. Cumulative rating 2, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=thickasthieves
Mar 20 22:54:02 <Chaang-Noi>	;;getrating burnside
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Mar 20 22:54:07 <Chaang-Noi>	;;getrating nefario
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Mar 20 22:54:37 <smickles>	lol, PayPal has the worst cumulative rating
Mar 20 22:54:43 <smickles>	;;getrating PayPal
Mar 20 22:54:44 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User PayPal, rated since Sat Aug 25 16:56:10 2012. Cumulative rating -181, from 29 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 25 negative. Sent ratings: 0 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=PayPal
Mar 20 22:54:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 20 22:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	how is dwolla doing ?
Mar 20 22:55:04 <smickles>	;;getrating dwolla
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Mar 20 22:55:08 <ThickAsThieves>	;;getrating litecoin
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Mar 20 22:55:16 <smickles>	outofthe meme
Mar 20 22:55:19 <Chaang-Noi>	;;getrating goat
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Mar 20 22:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate urmom 1 cheap fast service would cum again+++
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Mar 20 22:55:36 <Chaang-Noi>	im not in finace, never have been:)
Mar 20 22:55:54 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: I haven't left yet.
Mar 20 22:56:20 <Chaang-Noi>	do you know when you will go Luke-Jr?
Mar 20 22:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr a, must have missed that announcement.
Mar 20 22:56:39 <Chaang-Noi>	Luke, you mean go again right?
Mar 20 22:56:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought you reported about the new building design?
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Mar 20 22:57:47 <smickles>	;;getrating spain
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Mar 20 22:58:10 <smickles>	;;getrating scottlad
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Mar 20 22:58:11 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: I'll be back at their labs tomorrow morning..
Mar 20 22:58:20 <Chaang-Noi>	cool
Mar 20 22:58:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess that means they must think they are progressing
Mar 20 22:58:31 <Luke-Jr>	and back home Friday evening, unless they ask me to stay and my wife gives the okay
Mar 20 22:58:39 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr wait. you went or didn't go ? are you there now ? this is getting more and more self-contradictory.
Mar 20 22:58:50 <Luke-Jr>	but srsly, so bored here I'm not sure about staying much longer XD
Mar 20 22:58:59 <Chaang-Noi>	you in kc?
Mar 20 22:59:04 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: I arrived here last Thursday, and am still here now.
Mar 20 22:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	ow.
Mar 20 22:59:12 <mircea_popescu>	what ?!
Mar 20 22:59:13 <smickles>	my family lives in kc
Mar 20 22:59:15 <mircea_popescu>	you've been there A WEEK ?!
Mar 20 22:59:18 <Luke-Jr>	yes
Mar 20 22:59:26 <Chaang-Noi>	im from kcnot a whole lot to do
Mar 20 22:59:31 <mircea_popescu>	i'll brb, my jaw is somewhere
Mar 20 22:59:35 <Luke-Jr>	I lived in KC like 6 years ago
Mar 20 22:59:43 <Chaang-Noi>	only good place i know are places odds are you wont like
Mar 20 22:59:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i lived there like 12 years ago
Mar 20 23:00:04 <smickles>	wow, i love kc
Mar 20 23:00:05 <Chaang-Noi>	good bbq
Mar 20 23:00:13 <Chaang-Noi>	bad asics
Mar 20 23:00:14 <smickles>	the museums, pool halls
Mar 20 23:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno doods, if i went for a week's vacation it'd prolly not be kentucky.
Mar 20 23:00:33 <smickles>	disk golf
Mar 20 23:00:37 <mircea_popescu>	even if fried chicken.
Mar 20 23:00:54 <Luke-Jr>	all I have walking distance is a Sonic's
Mar 20 23:00:55 <mod6>	they mean kansas city
Mar 20 23:00:55 <smickles>	fishing
Mar 20 23:01:15 <mod6>	either way though lol
Mar 20 23:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 right, cause there's a difference ><
Mar 20 23:01:16 <[\\\]>	<Chaang-Noi> at least i admit when i fuck up  << BULLSHIT
Mar 20 23:01:24 <smickles>	the footbal team sucks, but it's fun b/c the crowd really gets into it
Mar 20 23:01:26 <Luke-Jr>	lol
Mar 20 23:01:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i never said go to kc, but if you have to be there eat bbq
Mar 20 23:01:46 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah go chiefs, but last season... omg
Mar 20 23:01:50 <Luke-Jr>	dunno, KC was okay except for the complete lack of Catholic churches
Mar 20 23:01:59 <mod6>	LOL
Mar 20 23:01:59 <mircea_popescu>	missouri has no churches ?!
Mar 20 23:02:12 <Diablo-D3>	missouri is southern baptist territory
Mar 20 23:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	dudes how much have i been drinking tonight ?
Mar 20 23:02:14 <smickles>	isn't there a cathedral
Mar 20 23:02:18 <Luke-Jr>	KC doesn't
Mar 20 23:02:22 <Chaang-Noi>	Luke-Jr there used to be some, but the southern babtists took them over
Mar 20 23:02:25 <[\\\]>	Luke-Jr, they've probably got Catholic churches, just not the kind you approve of.
Mar 20 23:02:31 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Mar 20 23:02:33 <Chaang-Noi>	my parents go to what used to be a catholic church
Mar 20 23:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] uncatholic
Mar 20 23:02:34 <Diablo-D3>	luke approves of nothing
Mar 20 23:02:40 <Diablo-D3>	he doesnt even recognize the new pope
Mar 20 23:02:42 <mod6>	you could drive to topeka and go to WBC
Mar 20 23:02:43 <[\\\]>	Diablo-D3: he approves of >25 BTC
Mar 20 23:02:52 <[\\\]>	Diablo-D3, he didn't recognize the last 4
Mar 20 23:03:05 <mircea_popescu>	what was wrong with jp2 ?
Mar 20 23:03:07 <Diablo-D3>	Im not catholic, but I didnt mind john paul II
Mar 20 23:03:10 <Luke-Jr>	mod6: Topeka is actually the nearest Catholic mission, and had Mass last Sunday that I couldn't get a ride to
Mar 20 23:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	also, http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-20/fleeing-the-euro-for-bitcoins-.html
Mar 20 23:03:16 <Diablo-D3>	at least he tried to tackle the pedophile problem
Mar 20 23:03:17 <smickles>	also, kcmo isn't as good a kck
Mar 20 23:03:18 <Diablo-D3>	no one else did
Mar 20 23:03:22 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: he wasn't a Catholic
Mar 20 23:03:26 <[\\\]>	lol
Mar 20 23:03:28 <[\\\]>	here we go again
Mar 20 23:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	the pope was insufficiently catholic ?
Mar 20 23:03:39 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: he wasn't a pope either
Mar 20 23:03:39 <Diablo-D3>	hell, there was a second attempt on his life, one in the vatican will admit to
Mar 20 23:03:40 <Chaang-Noi>	topeka is pretty far away
Mar 20 23:03:42 <smickles>	that's why he retired
Mar 20 23:03:53 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: hence why I moved out of KC
Mar 20 23:03:57 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr's view of Catholicism doesn't match the 2Billion other Catholics'
Mar 20 23:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	smickles no, jp2 was before ratz
Mar 20 23:04:00 <Diablo-D3>	the ring of pedophiles that control the vatican tried to kill him because he was trying to get rid of them
Mar 20 23:04:02 <Chaang-Noi>	where to?
Mar 20 23:04:10 <Luke-Jr>	[\\\]: it matches the 50 billion others ;P
Mar 20 23:04:15 <Diablo-D3>	[\\\]: I dont blame him honestly
Mar 20 23:04:16 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: Omaha, worst decision of my life
Mar 20 23:04:23 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 20 23:04:30 <Chaang-Noi>	oh man
Mar 20 23:04:31 <Diablo-D3>	modern catholocism (ie, everything from 200AD on) is built on lies and fraud
Mar 20 23:04:36 <smickles>	i was almost born in omaha
Mar 20 23:04:41 <[\\\]>	Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr disagrees
Mar 20 23:04:49 <smickles>	they moved to columbus, ne before it happened tho
Mar 20 23:04:50 <[\\\]>	he only bailed on the last 50 years.
Mar 20 23:04:53 <Diablo-D3>	I dont care if he disagrees, the historical record blatantly says this
Mar 20 23:04:54 <Chaang-Noi>	Luke i thought you were going to say boston or something
Mar 20 23:04:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.100001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 20 23:05:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Mar 20 23:05:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Mar 20 23:05:06 <Diablo-D3>	you cant disagree with fact
Mar 20 23:05:11 <Diablo-D3>	reality doesnt work that way
Mar 20 23:05:19 <Luke-Jr>	just ignore Diablo-D3's trolling, I am
Mar 20 23:05:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.93 BTC [+]
Mar 20 23:05:40 <Diablo-D3>	lol, am I trolling if I say popes led armies into the middle east to murder innocent people?
Mar 20 23:05:41 <[\\\]>	Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3 doesn't troll.
Mar 20 23:05:41 <Chaang-Noi>	.93, go asicminer! :)
Mar 20 23:05:49 <Luke-Jr>	[\\\]: rarely
Mar 20 23:06:12 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: yes
Mar 20 23:06:35 <Diablo-D3>	So, I am trolling Luke-Jr with cold hard facts.
Mar 20 23:06:35 <Diablo-D3>	Go me.
Mar 20 23:06:43 <Luke-Jr>	lies*
Mar 20 23:07:14 <Diablo-D3>	So you're saying the holy crusades never happened?
Mar 20 23:07:43 <Luke-Jr>	no, I'm saying they were led by civil authorities and killed GUILTY people. that's why they're holy
Mar 20 23:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	the arabs were spamming the network.
Mar 20 23:08:23 <smickles>	lol
Mar 20 23:08:25 <Luke-Jr>	for the most part, the Crusades were a defensive retaliation
Mar 20 23:08:41 <smickles>	"defensive retaliation"
Mar 20 23:08:47 <smickles>	i like the sound of that
Mar 20 23:08:49 <Diablo-D3>	yes, they were defensive against women and children who were guilty for the crime of being alive. yup.
Mar 20 23:08:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yes lead by civil but lol at killing guility people:)
Mar 20 23:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	smickles like say there's this hot chick in a short skirt and she's wearing no knickers right ?
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Mar 20 23:09:10 <mircea_popescu>	you get her against a wall and give her a good seeing-to
Mar 20 23:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	"defensive retaliation"
Mar 20 23:09:41 <smickles>	say no more ;) ;)
Mar 20 23:09:54 <Luke-Jr>	so someone breaks into your house and throws you out. then you go buy a gun and chase him back out. that's what the Crusades were (the 2nd part)
Mar 20 23:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	a wink is as good as a whistle to a blind bat.
Mar 20 23:09:59 <Diablo-D3>	oh dont get me wrong, they raped the women and children too
Mar 20 23:10:07 <Chaang-Noi>	and goats
Mar 20 23:10:10 <Chaang-Noi>	dont forget goat rape
Mar 20 23:10:11 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: except Jesus said to live side by side in peace.
Mar 20 23:10:12 <kakobrekla>	and donkeys
Mar 20 23:10:18 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr say, if they were holy how come they lost ? the arabs kinda owned them holy ppl...
Mar 20 23:10:20 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you crack me up
Mar 20 23:10:55 <Chaang-Noi>	they won the crusades in spain if that counts
Mar 20 23:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	ya except la reconquista was perhaps the bloodiest, messiest most agressive act of racism in european history
Mar 20 23:11:29 <mircea_popescu>	excluding of course all the french medieval history
Mar 20 23:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	and the german
Mar 20 23:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	and english
Mar 20 23:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	you get the idea.
Mar 20 23:11:37 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: thats a pretty hard thing to claim, really
Mar 20 23:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	o and caesar.
Mar 20 23:11:40 <smickles>	what about the popes who just wanted the power and held orgies, killed people for the fun of it and such?
Mar 20 23:11:48 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, what about the whole slavery thing in america?
Mar 20 23:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	smickles not real catholics.
Mar 20 23:11:56 <Diablo-D3>	thats pretty high up on the list
Mar 20 23:12:08 <Diablo-D3>	I understand luke's point when he says not real catholics
Mar 20 23:12:13 <Diablo-D3>	anyone who believes in God wouldn't have done that
Mar 20 23:12:18 <Diablo-D3>	problem is… they still did it.
Mar 20 23:12:25 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: what about them?
Mar 20 23:12:26 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 also known as the not true catholic phallacy.
Mar 20 23:12:26 <Diablo-D3>	and the catholic church is still to blame for it
Mar 20 23:12:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;getrating jesus
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Mar 20 23:12:40 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yup
Mar 20 23:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	ok im authin for that one
Mar 20 23:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
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Mar 20 23:12:55 <smickles>	Luke-Jr: it's an entertaining read, isn't it? (the history of the popes)
Mar 20 23:13:05 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: this is why I just moot the entire issue and say everything after 200AD is built on lies and fraud
Mar 20 23:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:784991315e879c5e141fbfc3d3c15b7be6d7bb814adb9b75d248b223
Mar 20 23:13:22 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 20 23:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate jesus -1 there's that entire mess in the temple to sort out.
Mar 20 23:13:30 <gribble>	Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
Mar 20 23:13:30 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: not particularly.
Mar 20 23:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	pfff
Mar 20 23:13:53 <smickles>	Luke-Jr: you don't like political thrillers, do you?
Mar 20 23:14:16 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: I'm betting you ignored what led up to the bad popes?
Mar 20 23:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	protestants ?
Mar 20 23:14:30 <ThickAsThieves>	Luke-Jr, what is the current BFL asic status, I haven't been keeping up?
Mar 20 23:14:32 <Luke-Jr>	here's a hint: bad laymen
Mar 20 23:14:42 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: most of them were pre-protestantism
Mar 20 23:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	what about the last 4 ?
Mar 20 23:15:29 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: St. Pius X - Pius XII?
Mar 20 23:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	no, this current argentinian guy, ratz, jp2 and
Mar 20 23:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	who was before, paul ?
Mar 20 23:15:54 <Luke-Jr>	those are frauds, not popes
Mar 20 23:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	ok. so what led to them ?
Mar 20 23:16:11 <Luke-Jr>	neglegent laity and clergy
Mar 20 23:16:23 <Luke-Jr>	Pope Pius XII allowed modernism to flourish, more or less
Mar 20 23:16:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00438 BTC [-]
Mar 20 23:16:54 <smickles>	"oh god what a horrible thing" comes to mind
Mar 20 23:17:04 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: the catholic church was not started by peter
Mar 20 23:17:28 <Luke-Jr>	the Catholic Church was started by Jesus
Mar 20 23:17:32 <mircea_popescu>	not like he had much of a choice.
Mar 20 23:17:33 <mod6>	rate jesus -1 there's that entire mess in the temple to sort out. << HAHA
Mar 20 23:17:42 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: of course he did
Mar 20 23:17:49 <mod6>	erp. missed his nick. :/
Mar 20 23:18:22 <Luke-Jr>	even if the civil powers neglected their duties, Pope Pius XII could have proactively issued written excommunications against all modernists identified
Mar 20 23:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok.
Mar 20 23:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	and ?
Mar 20 23:18:33 <Luke-Jr>	instead of basically ignoring them taking over the seminaries and such
Mar 20 23:18:49 <pigeons>	Brian started the church
Mar 20 23:18:51 <Troic>	 modernisms like euthanasia, gay marriage, abortions and female bishops ?
Mar 20 23:18:57 <pigeons>	always look on the bright side of life
Mar 20 23:19:01 <Luke-Jr>	Troic: no
Mar 20 23:19:13 <pigeons>	Troic: he means speaking english
Mar 20 23:19:15 <Chaang-Noi>	jesus did not start the catholic church, that was paul? wtf?
Mar 20 23:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	didn't pius xii get the reichskonkordat going ?
Mar 20 23:19:20 <Luke-Jr>	modernism is the heresy that truth/doctrine can change over time, basically
Mar 20 23:19:26 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: it was Jesus
Mar 20 23:19:30 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 20 23:19:34 <pigeons>	saul was a plant
Mar 20 23:19:37 <Chaang-Noi>	read the bible and world history
Mar 20 23:20:08 <Chaang-Noi>	jesus had nothing like a church...
Mar 20 23:20:23 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: He founded a Church and that was the only thing He left mankind with for guidance
Mar 20 23:20:26 <Chaang-Noi>	the roman sual/paul did it
Mar 20 23:20:42 <Chaang-Noi>	it started 30 to 40 eyars after he died
Mar 20 23:20:48 <Luke-Jr>	nope
Mar 20 23:21:10 <Chaang-Noi>	? the catholic church was around before sual/paul was a christian?
Mar 20 23:21:14 <pigeons>	i dont think Luke-Jr is going to convert to litecoin Chaang-Noi
Mar 20 23:21:19 *	mod6 MUST. RESIST. THE. URGE. TO. TROLL.
Mar 20 23:21:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 20 23:21:25 <Chaang-Noi>	Luke has 1337 ltc:)
Mar 20 23:21:26 <Luke-Jr>	after His resurrection, he appointed St. Peter to be the first pope; shortly after His ascension, He sent the Holy Ghost to consecrate His first bishops
Mar 20 23:21:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00071031 = 11.6846 BTC [+]
Mar 20 23:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	no but srsly. pius xii ? nazi germany ? anything there ?
Mar 20 23:21:37 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: yes
Mar 20 23:21:56 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: what about it? the pope did much to save many jews from persecution
Mar 20 23:22:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i was just telling pigeons :)
Mar 20 23:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	but.he.signed.with.the.devil.
Mar 20 23:22:07 <Chaang-Noi>	that i already converted you:)
Mar 20 23:22:08 <smickles>	Luke-Jr: do you believe that jesus gave that one saint his foreskin as a wedding ring?
Mar 20 23:22:18 <pigeons>	smickles: wtf
Mar 20 23:22:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont have enough info
Mar 20 23:22:26 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: I have no idea what nonsense you are talking about
Mar 20 23:22:36 <smickles>	or that jesus left his foreskin on saturn as the rings
Mar 20 23:22:36 <mod6>	anyway, there is no use debating this stuff.
Mar 20 23:22:48 <mod6>	LOUD NOISES!
Mar 20 23:22:59 <pigeons>	jesus gave the saint jesus' foreskin or jesus gave the saint the saint's own foreskin?
Mar 20 23:23:02 <Luke-Jr>	mod6: more interesting than sitting around notihnging
Mar 20 23:23:12 <pigeons>	jesus was a jew, he saved and preserved his foreskin that long?
Mar 20 23:23:15 <Chaang-Noi>	if you guys want some lulz you shouldread about the mormans
Mar 20 23:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	boys, i am proud to announce i have the first ever intelligent pumpkin ready to show everyone
Mar 20 23:23:25 <Chaang-Noi>	some of thei rstuff is fucking insane, it is really a good read
Mar 20 23:23:26 <copumpkin>	:O
Mar 20 23:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	if things go about as planned should be early to mid next week
Mar 20 23:23:32 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: mormonism is an extremely insane false religion
Mar 20 23:23:36 <Chaang-Noi>	hi copumpkin :)
Mar 20 23:23:50 <Luke-Jr>	copumpkin is intelligent?
Mar 20 23:23:54 <Chaang-Noi>	luke yeah, it is so insane it is fun reading their texts
Mar 20 23:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	he's a pineapple.
Mar 20 23:24:03 <copumpkin>	yep
Mar 20 23:24:09 <copumpkin>	I just pretend to be a pumpkin
Mar 20 23:24:11 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: I try to avoid reading demon-dictated texts
Mar 20 23:24:14 <smickles>	Luke-Jr: saint catherine of sienna, i think
Mar 20 23:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	btw copumpkin have you heard ?
Mar 20 23:24:23 <copumpkin>	probably not
Mar 20 23:24:25 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: what about her?
Mar 20 23:24:25 <copumpkin>	never around anymore :P
Mar 20 23:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	your poisonous donation caused pdpc to be audited by the tax office
Mar 20 23:24:33 <mircea_popescu>	they got dissolved, everyone hauled off to jail
Mar 20 23:24:34 <copumpkin>	seriously?
Mar 20 23:24:35 <mircea_popescu>	all your fault.
Mar 20 23:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Mar 20 23:24:37 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 20 23:24:44 <Chaang-Noi>	luke jr is bitcoin a sign of the end of the world? where everyone must you a truly world currancy? is the the begining of the end?
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Mar 20 23:24:58 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: where do you get this nonsense from?
Mar 20 23:25:01 <Chaang-Noi>	luke demons can be very entertaining
Mar 20 23:25:03 <pigeons>	you can't buy or sell without the number of your private key
Mar 20 23:25:07 <Chaang-Noi>	revalations
Mar 20 23:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin http://blog.freenode.net/2013/03/bye-bye-pdpc/
Mar 20 23:25:15 <smickles>	Luke-Jr: she's the one who jesus married by giving her his foreskin (in her mouth)
Mar 20 23:25:20 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: just reading now!
Mar 20 23:25:22 <copumpkin>	crazy
Mar 20 23:25:22 <Luke-Jr>	you should get your head checked out if you're getting revelations
Mar 20 23:25:23 <Chaang-Noi>	however linking it to btc is a streach
Mar 20 23:25:24 <copumpkin>	now I feel bad
Mar 20 23:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	totally should.
Mar 20 23:25:29 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: shoo troll
Mar 20 23:25:40 <mod6>	Chaang-Noi actaully has a point... and many people take the bible literally.
Mar 20 23:25:48 <smickles>	Luke-Jr: well, what's the real story of that then?
Mar 20 23:25:58 <mod6>	they talk about some sort of one world currency and some trumpeting angels and stuff.
Mar 20 23:25:58 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: um, there is no story like that
Mar 20 23:26:01 <mod6>	quite amusing.
Mar 20 23:26:05 <smickles>	they cut off her hand after her death to preserve it
Mar 20 23:26:07 <smickles>	it's a relic now
Mar 20 23:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	smickles does it still perform ?
Mar 20 23:26:21 <Chaang-Noi>	mod6 revalations is a damn good read to
Mar 20 23:26:28 <[\\\]>	dust-otc!
Mar 20 23:26:31 <pigeons>	;;google holy prepuce
Mar 20 23:26:32 <gribble>	Holy Prepuce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce>; The Holy Foreskin of Jesus - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLgMgcMho34>; Holy Foreskin! A Brief History of Stolen Catholic Relics | Mental Floss: <http://mentalfloss.com/article/30178/holy-foreskin-brief-history-stolen-catholic-relics>
Mar 20 23:26:34 <[\\\]>	who is pdpc?
Mar 20 23:26:38 <smickles>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Siena
Mar 20 23:26:47 <mod6>	[\\\]: the group that runs freenode
Mar 20 23:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] porn studio, does bestiality and sutff.
Mar 20 23:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	you wouldn't know.
Mar 20 23:26:59 <[\\\]>	nope
Mar 20 23:27:00 <pigeons>	[\\\]: peer directed projects center, former org running freenode till they took mircea_popescu 's money and ran
Mar 20 23:27:16 <[\\\]>	haha
Mar 20 23:27:19 <[\\\]>	classic
Mar 20 23:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	they didn't run, they just inserted it
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Mar 20 23:27:27 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: what about it?
Mar 20 23:27:37 <[\\\]>	"You've reached freenode, a service of Peer-Directed Projects Center (PDPC). freenode provides discussion facilities for the Free and Open Source Software communities, for not-for-profit organizations and for related communities and organizations."
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Mar 20 23:27:43 <[\\\]>	they haven't updated their website
Mar 20 23:27:44 <[\\\]>	trolls
Mar 20 23:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] volunteer time. they'll get around to it
Mar 20 23:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	about five weeks after someone in "bitcoin devteam" tests something.
Mar 20 23:28:10 <smickles>	Luke-Jr: you're saying that she didn't receive the forskin of jesus?
Mar 20 23:28:12 <[\\\]>	where can I see an article about all of this
Mar 20 23:28:21 <smickles>	it's part of why she's a saint?
Mar 20 23:28:22 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: I've never heard of anything of the sort
Mar 20 23:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] in the above line to copumpkin
Mar 20 23:28:37 <kakobrekla>	i heard of the foreskin before
Mar 20 23:28:39 <pigeons>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision_of_Jesus
Mar 20 23:28:41 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: apparently neither has wikipedia
Mar 20 23:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	smickles this is why he doesn't support modernism : so much new stuff just from not having read it before...
Mar 20 23:29:01 <kakobrekla>	wiki is almost as stupid as bible didnt ya know
Mar 20 23:29:07 <pigeons>	shit smickles i thought you were making up the rings of staturn bit
Mar 20 23:29:19 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i've got a picture of it
Mar 20 23:29:24 <smickles>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Barna_da_Siena._Mystic_Marriage_of_st_Catherine._Boston_MFA.jpg
Mar 20 23:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	why is he carrying a book ?
Mar 20 23:29:47 <pigeons>	hahaha if thats not enough they have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Umbilical_Cord
Mar 20 23:29:53 <smickles>	Luke-Jr: apparently you can't read wikipedia all that well
Mar 20 23:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	you know it's so damned unlikely jesus ever touched a tome... too expensive.
Mar 20 23:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.47198999 BTC [-]
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Mar 20 23:30:57 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: they didn't have kindles?
Mar 20 23:31:05 <ThickAsThieves>	can we talk more about jesus?
Mar 20 23:31:10 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: I searched the page for 'foreskin'
Mar 20 23:31:24 <[\\\]>	ThickAsThieves: sure, he's still cutting my grass outside
Mar 20 23:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] only the harlots and modernists had kindles back then
Mar 20 23:31:38 <Chaang-Noi>	okay new topic muhammad the true profit
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Mar 20 23:31:51 <mircea_popescu>	chaang-noe can sepl
Mar 20 23:31:53 <[\\\]>	shutup Goat, we're still on jesus
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Mar 20 23:32:08 <mod6>	no one fucks with da jesus
Mar 20 23:32:08 <ThickAsThieves>	what would jesus think about bitcoin
Mar 20 23:32:09 <[\\\]>	so jesus, a goat, and a jew walk into a bar, right
Mar 20 23:32:19 <mod6>	9 year olds dude
Mar 20 23:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Mar 20 23:32:25 <ThickAsThieves>	jesus would probly be an altcoiner
Mar 20 23:32:26 <mod6>	s/9/8/
Mar 20 23:32:33 <Luke-Jr>	ThickAsThieves: nonsense
Mar 20 23:32:35 <nOgAnOo>	I like Jesus
Mar 20 23:32:44 <nOgAnOo>	I am a born again Christian
Mar 20 23:32:49 <mod6>	wtf
Mar 20 23:32:54 <[\\\]>	what were you born the first time?
Mar 20 23:32:54 <mod6>	what is going on in the world
Mar 20 23:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	i know a guy named jesus. he's an argentine
Mar 20 23:33:06 <nOgAnOo>	The second birth is into the family of God
Mar 20 23:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] he was born a goat the first time.
Mar 20 23:33:10 <nOgAnOo>	Adam fell and became sinful
Mar 20 23:33:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 6 @ 0.1925 = 1.155 BTC [+]
Mar 20 23:33:14 <Luke-Jr>	mod6: we're racing to $100
Mar 20 23:33:20 <nOgAnOo>	each creature can only reproduce according to type
Mar 20 23:33:26 <mod6>	nOgAnOo: successful troll 7/10
Mar 20 23:33:27 <nOgAnOo>	therefore because of Adam we are all sinful
Mar 20 23:33:28 <[\\\]>	Luke-Jr: don't buy any more please
Mar 20 23:33:29 <pigeons>	http://www.thestar.com/news/2007/12/15/searching_for_christianitys_most_sensitive_remnant.html
Mar 20 23:33:33 <ThickAsThieves>	the 2nd birth can really do a number on a girl
Mar 20 23:33:35 <Luke-Jr>	[\\\]: why not? :/
Mar 20 23:33:40 <nOgAnOo>	You need to be reborn into the family of God to go to heaven
Mar 20 23:33:44 <[\\\]>	the last time you bought, we crashed to $2
Mar 20 23:33:44 <nOgAnOo>	God's name is YAHWEH
Mar 20 23:33:46 <Luke-Jr>	[\\\]: oh, buy. why would I buy?
Mar 20 23:33:48 <nOgAnOo>	the Holy Trinity
Mar 20 23:33:55 <nOgAnOo>	God of Israel
Mar 20 23:33:57 <nOgAnOo>	That is my God
Mar 20 23:33:58 <[\\\]>	why did you buy at $25?
Mar 20 23:34:02 <[\\\]>	lol
Mar 20 23:34:02 <Chaang-Noi>	i hate to leave this wonderful conversation but i has gots to go to a tropical island so i can drink beer and not do much else, catch ya all later, happy trading
Mar 20 23:34:04 <Luke-Jr>	dunno
Mar 20 23:34:05 <nOgAnOo>	What are BTC at now?
Mar 20 23:34:09 <nOgAnOo>	I've been gone a week
Mar 20 23:34:12 <nOgAnOo>	at my cabin
Mar 20 23:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] because he had 5 bucks and nothing to do with it
Mar 20 23:34:15 <Luke-Jr>	nOgAnOo: $66.6
Mar 20 23:34:20 <nOgAnOo>	bogus
Mar 20 23:34:20 <[\\\]>	;;ticker
Mar 20 23:34:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.49064, Best ask: 64.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00936, Last trade: 64.50000, 24 hour volume: 91855.74979099, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.57095
Mar 20 23:34:25 <pigeons>	seriously the alleged foreskin of jesus was said to be stolen by a chinese relic hunter
Mar 20 23:34:25 <Luke-Jr>	almost
Mar 20 23:34:27 <nOgAnOo>	YOU ARE SHITTING ME
Mar 20 23:34:29 <nOgAnOo>	I KNEW IT
Mar 20 23:34:34 <nOgAnOo>	IT'S GOING TO 100
Mar 20 23:34:36 <pigeons>	he came back for bitcoinica
Mar 20 23:34:38 <[\\\]>	/ignore nOgAnOo
Mar 20 23:34:47 <ThickAsThieves>	caps make your words more believable
Mar 20 23:35:01 <Luke-Jr>	O RLY?
Mar 20 23:35:11 <[\\\]>	I think I'm going to make a script that automatically ignores people that write more than 2 lines in caps in a row
Mar 20 23:35:16 <smickles>	NO RLY
Mar 20 23:35:19 <[\\\]>	NO U
Mar 20 23:35:22 <mod6>	SRSLY!
Mar 20 23:35:22 <pigeons>	i thought the chinese relic hunter excuse was original to zhou, guess not
Mar 20 23:35:27 <assbot>	banner time
Mar 20 23:35:29 <nOgAnOo>	I'm out of here
Mar 20 23:35:30 <[\\\]>	speaking of
Mar 20 23:35:42 <[\\\]>	whatever happened to zhou tong and his art dealer boyfriend?
Mar 20 23:35:51 <Luke-Jr>	WE CAN HAZ A DUOLOGUE IN CAPS AND BYPASS IMSAGUY'S SCRIPT KIDDINESS
Mar 20 23:36:05 <smickles>	Stop, .. banner time! oh, oh, oh, oh
Mar 20 23:36:11 <mod6>	haha
Mar 20 23:36:14 <ThickAsThieves>	this channel was so much better before bitcoin forked
Mar 20 23:36:29 <[\\\]>	omg, I f0rked the chain!!!11one
Mar 20 23:36:45 <Luke-Jr>	no, that was slush
Mar 20 23:36:47 <Luke-Jr>	BOYCOTT SLUSH
Mar 20 23:36:52 <Namworld>	This channel was better before nefario went full retard. Never go full retard. Before than, there was more interest in BTC assets.
Mar 20 23:37:01 <[\\\]>	lol
Mar 20 23:37:02 <[\\\]>	seriously
Mar 20 23:37:02 <pigeons>	this became of zhou https://www.nameterrific.com/about
Mar 20 23:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld not rly.
Mar 20 23:37:14 <Luke-Jr>	Namworld: ironically, the FinCEN thing suggests GLBSE was 100% legal in the US
Mar 20 23:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	there were more poor people deluding themselves with btc assets.
Mar 20 23:37:16 <[\\\]>	pigeons: he was working on that during bitcoinica
Mar 20 23:37:36 <smickles>	< Luke-Jr> Namworld: ironically, the FinCEN thing suggests GLBSE was 100% legal in the US
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Mar 20 23:37:48 <[\\\]>	lol
Mar 20 23:37:49 <smickles>	missed the part about unregulated securities Luke-Jr ?
Mar 20 23:37:55 <[\\\]>	haha
Mar 20 23:37:58 <Luke-Jr>	smickles: maybe!
Mar 20 23:38:08 <[\\\]>	FinCEN != SEC
Mar 20 23:38:32 <Luke-Jr>	[\\\]: iow, FinCEN is okay with it, but SEC would get him?
Mar 20 23:38:33 <pigeons>	oh shit better get my MSB license so i can still sell on silk road
Mar 20 23:38:35 <Namworld>	Well, fair enough mircea. I know MPEx has been doing well and is the major volume. But at least there was more regular chatting about BTC businesses and less unrelated talk.
Mar 20 23:38:41 <[\\\]>	lol pigeons
Mar 20 23:38:49 <mod6>	funnay
Mar 20 23:38:54 <Namworld>	I'm not really talking about volume, just quality of talk in this channel.
Mar 20 23:39:01 <[\\\]>	Luke-Jr: SEC cares about securities, FinCEN is worried about money laundering
Mar 20 23:39:09 <Luke-Jr>	[\\\]: so yes?
Mar 20 23:39:11 <[\\\]>	Namworld, ninja please
Mar 20 23:39:12 <[\\\]>	aye
Mar 20 23:39:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i kinda don't recall.
Mar 20 23:39:20 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: because you were stoned at the time
Mar 20 23:39:31 <[\\\]>	that was before you had to give away mpex accounts
Mar 20 23:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	i seriously haven't been stoned in like 10 years
Mar 20 23:39:41 <[\\\]>	thats about the same timeline
Mar 20 23:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	naw, glbse only died in like oct neh ?
Mar 20 23:39:45 <[\\\]>	in bitcoin years
Mar 20 23:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	you're not telling me this is pre-april ?
Mar 20 23:39:55 <Namworld>	mircea: yeah
Mar 20 23:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	pre april ?! are you kidding me ?!
Mar 20 23:40:06 <smickles>	I can type on the keyboard too
Mar 20 23:40:12 <[\\\]>	I remember back when glbse didn't require ID
Mar 20 23:40:13 <mircea_popescu>	what exactly was it, peter lambert advising re sensodyne ?!
Mar 20 23:40:16 <[\\\]>	smickles: Dragon?
Mar 20 23:40:27 <Luke-Jr>	GLBSE never required ID…
Mar 20 23:40:32 <[\\\]>	Luke-Jr: lies.
Mar 20 23:40:45 <pigeons>	use to not need a web page for glbse
Mar 20 23:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	i should reject all gpg sigs that don't include idpic
Mar 20 23:41:00 <mircea_popescu>	actually... that don't include NUDE id pic.
Mar 20 23:41:06 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: idpic with b00bies*
Mar 20 23:41:09 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yeah, i made mpoe.etf on the old version of glbse
Mar 20 23:41:10 <[\\\]>	exactly
Mar 20 23:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	too late troll :D
Mar 20 23:41:11 <[\\\]>	lol
Mar 20 23:41:16 <pigeons>	ok let me get usagi to send you his key
Mar 20 23:41:22 <[\\\]>	haha
Mar 20 23:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i think you're on the list of paid trolls nao.
Mar 20 23:41:31 <[\\\]>	I thought usagi was female, no?
Mar 20 23:41:37 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: me too!
Mar 20 23:41:41 <mircea_popescu>	with eximo bob and who else
Mar 20 23:41:44 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu wants a pic of me nude?
Mar 20 23:41:45 <pigeons>	s/he
Mar 20 23:41:52 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] female yes, but not the boobs sort.
Mar 20 23:41:56 <pigeons>	who is paying me?
Mar 20 23:41:56 <[\\\]>	pigeons: penis, tits?
Mar 20 23:41:59 <Diablo-D3>	hrm.
Mar 20 23:42:00 <smickles>	[\\\]: usagi: http://www.youtube.com/user/MagicalPockyUsagi
Mar 20 23:42:05 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: I meant paid troll
Mar 20 23:42:10 *	Diablo-D3 is up 9.4% in his gambling against SD
Mar 20 23:42:25 <[\\\]>	DMC making money the old fashioned way... at the casino.
Mar 20 23:42:30 *	Luke-Jr hopes Diablo-D3 goes broke
Mar 20 23:42:37 <Luke-Jr>	[\\\]: lol
Mar 20 23:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha wait, if he goes broke sdice gets rich
Mar 20 23:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	the whole 2 btc!
Mar 20 23:42:50 <pigeons>	yeah whats the deal Diablo-D3, donating to shareholders of s.dice?
Mar 20 23:42:52 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: hmm, true
Mar 20 23:43:02 <mod6>	\o/
Mar 20 23:43:07 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: not at all, they are donating ot me.
Mar 20 23:43:15 <pigeons>	you've got a system
Mar 20 23:43:16 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: want a hack to always win SD?
Mar 20 23:43:19 <[\\\]>	are there bets on when satoshidice fails?
Mar 20 23:43:19 <pigeons>	wow, never heard that
Mar 20 23:43:25 <[\\\]>	that'd be the ultimate bet
Mar 20 23:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] possibly. if not you can make one
Mar 20 23:43:31 <[\\\]>	betting on when the house will shut down
Mar 20 23:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	i know there was one on s.mpoe but it's not going so well
Mar 20 23:43:40 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: besides, I would think you would want me to do God's work.
Mar 20 23:43:43 <pigeons>	there is a bet on betsofbitco on when evorhees goes to jail and one for guantanamo
Mar 20 23:43:45 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: may I make a bet that will bet on when bitbet gets shut down?
Mar 20 23:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	sure
Mar 20 23:43:57 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: We both worship the same God, and Jesus is our Lord and Savior.
Mar 20 23:44:04 <[\\\]>	Diablo-D3: lies.
Mar 20 23:44:04 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: no
Mar 20 23:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	will be weird tho cause if you win who pays ?
Mar 20 23:44:21 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr is a heathen =/
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Mar 20 23:44:27 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: you can be shutdown without being dissolved.
Mar 20 23:44:35 <pigeons>	nevar!
Mar 20 23:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	how'd that work ?
Mar 20 23:44:51 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: no u
Mar 20 23:45:22 <pigeons>	as soon as the bet is high enough [\\\] pays the gov agent bribe
Mar 20 23:45:35 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: do you pray unceasingly?
Mar 20 23:45:47 <pigeons>	Luke-Jr is a heathen
Mar 20 23:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons yes and ?
Mar 20 23:46:14 <Luke-Jr>	http://bitcointroll.org/index.php?topic=141502.0
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Mar 20 23:47:01 <[\\\]>	so is that youtube really usagi?
Mar 20 23:47:11 <jcpham>	where
Mar 20 23:47:13 <[\\\]>	as in the bitcoin usagi?
Mar 20 23:47:18 <[\\\]>	http://www.youtube.com/user/MagicalPockyUsagi
Mar 20 23:47:28 <[\\\]>	I'll warn you
Mar 20 23:47:31 <[\\\]>	you can't unsee it
Mar 20 23:47:39 <pigeons>	ok dont need to look then
Mar 20 23:47:43 <jcpham>	wait bitcointroll.org resolves!?!
Mar 20 23:47:44 <pigeons>	but i know ill get tempted later
Mar 20 23:47:46 <jcpham>	hahahahahha
Mar 20 23:47:53 <Luke-Jr>	pigeons: you should join us up here in KC
Mar 20 23:48:18 <mod6>	that can't be usagi, because there are no girls on the tubes
Mar 20 23:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham always did
Mar 20 23:48:28 <Luke-Jr>	(I'm not the only Floridian here - and the others have been here longer)
Mar 20 23:48:47 <pigeons>	yeah sounds like yall are having fu
Mar 20 23:48:50 <pigeons>	n
Mar 20 23:48:55 <Luke-Jr>	NO F U
Mar 20 23:48:58 <jcpham>	it's a chick
Mar 20 23:49:21 <Namworld>	I see vampire music in the videos list...
Mar 20 23:49:31 <jcpham>	who do itip for bitcointroll.org
Mar 20 23:49:31 <Luke-Jr>	jcpham: there's dramatalk.org too
Mar 20 23:49:40 <jcpham>	!
Mar 20 23:49:42 <Luke-Jr>	jcpham: wizkid057 setup bitcointroll.org
Mar 20 23:49:42 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: Do you not wish to feed the hungry or heal the sick or other things good Christians would do for those in need?
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Mar 20 23:49:49 <Namworld>	Sounds like usagi alright
Mar 20 23:49:54 <jcpham>	that's geat
Mar 20 23:49:59 <jcpham>	*great
Mar 20 23:50:23 <smickles>	< [\\\]> so is that youtube really usagi? << usagi personally told me that was tehm
Mar 20 23:50:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00071031 = 2.1309 BTC [+]
Mar 20 23:50:47 <Luke-Jr>	we should just drop Florida on top of KC until BFL ships
Mar 20 23:51:17 <[\\\]>	<Luke-Jr> we should just drop Florida on top of KC
Mar 20 23:51:18 <Namworld>	them?
Mar 20 23:51:26 <[\\\]>	Namworld: male/female
Mar 20 23:51:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 31 @ 0.9 = 27.9 BTC [-]
Mar 20 23:51:31 <pigeons>	what's the deal Luke-Jr they just rushed and had bad luck?
Mar 20 23:51:31 <ThickAsThieves>	are they shipping this month or what?
Mar 20 23:51:47 <pigeons>	ok clicking usagi luke's god help me
Mar 20 23:52:06 <Namworld>	multiple personality disorder?
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Mar 20 23:52:24 <Diablo-D3>	I notice Luke-Jr didnt answer the question
Mar 20 23:52:26 <ThickAsThieves>	we ask the HARD questions in nyeeuh
Mar 20 23:52:38 *	Diablo-D3 prays for Luke
Mar 20 23:52:43 <[\\\]>	ok, let's discuss the following statement:
Mar 20 23:52:45 <[\\\]>	"new hardware for the test  rig and that should get us  what we need by early to mid next week."
Mar 20 23:52:47 <Luke-Jr>	[\\\]: no
Mar 20 23:52:48 <[\\\]>	first up
Mar 20 23:52:50 <[\\\]>	'should'
Mar 20 23:52:54 <[\\\]>	next up
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Mar 20 23:53:05 <[\\\]>	'early to mid next week'
Mar 20 23:53:09 <jcpham>	what happens next week
Mar 20 23:53:16 <[\\\]>	so a whole bunch of nonspecific crap
Mar 20 23:53:20 <Luke-Jr>	jcpham: BFL comes up with their next excuse
Mar 20 23:53:24 <[\\\]>	jcpham: bfl can test their shit
Mar 20 23:53:26 <[\\\]>	or something
Mar 20 23:53:39 <pigeons>	ok since its flash i dont get to see usagi
Mar 20 23:53:39 <[\\\]>	you would have thought they would have tested their tester sometime in the past 4 months
Mar 20 23:53:49 <[\\\]>	why wait until the day you're trying to do stuff for real?
Mar 20 23:54:15 <pigeons>	so is josh actually pleasant in "real life" as alleged?
Mar 20 23:54:17 <ThickAsThieves>	Next week, we'll tell you what's gonna happen next week. Stay tuned!
Mar 20 23:54:24 <[\\\]>	;;google herp derp
Mar 20 23:54:24 <gribble>	Urban Dictionary: herp derp: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herp%20derp>; Harp Darp / Herp Derp | Know Your Meme: <http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/harp-darp-herp-derp>; DERP | Know Your Meme: <http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/derp>
Mar 20 23:54:27 <Luke-Jr>	pigeons: as long as he's not driving
Mar 20 23:54:29 <jcpham>	oh wait is this a butterfly labs story
Mar 20 23:54:34 <[\\\]>	holy shit, there's bfl's address
Mar 20 23:54:36 <jcpham>	let me get my popcorn
Mar 20 23:55:00 <jcpham>	they've got to be close to shipping right
Mar 20 23:55:03 <[\\\]>	ThickAsThieves: sometime next week, I should be able to maybe tell you something you probably don't want to hear
Mar 20 23:55:07 <jcpham>	like not many excuses left
Mar 20 23:55:11 <[\\\]>	jcpham: you'd think
Mar 20 23:55:18 <[\\\]>	next is the hurrican
Mar 20 23:55:19 <[\\\]>	e
Mar 20 23:55:21 <pigeons>	shit it can't be cheap to put luke up in the kc hilton for a week and pay him irc
Mar 20 23:55:27 <ThickAsThieves>	I look forward to looking forward to that, \\\
Mar 20 23:55:29 <[\\\]>	and then the alligators that broke in and stole their power cords
Mar 20 23:55:29 <jcpham>	i mean unless they run out of bubble wrap and cardboard
Mar 20 23:55:41 <jcpham>	cardboard shortages could ruuin bitcoin
Mar 20 23:55:42 <[\\\]>	jody quit
Mar 20 23:55:45 <[\\\]>	it'll be a few weeks
Mar 20 23:55:49 <[\\\]>	we gotta hire a replacement
Mar 20 23:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8jJxKTFXPc
Mar 20 23:55:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 430 @ 0.00559698 = 2.4067 BTC [-]
Mar 20 23:55:58 <[\\\]>	oh crap, jody didn't pay the water bill
Mar 20 23:56:00 <[\\\]>	two more weeks
Mar 20 23:56:13 <jcpham>	just open up preorders
Mar 20 23:56:15 <[\\\]>	someone clogged the toilet, see you next month
Mar 20 23:56:17 <Luke-Jr>	lol
Mar 20 23:56:17 <jcpham>	water bill. paid
Mar 20 23:56:34 <[\\\]>	uh oh, the floor's a little dusty
Mar 20 23:56:38 <[\\\]>	we better get it inspected
Mar 20 23:56:42 <[\\\]>	they can't make it until June
Mar 20 23:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	probably someone premined with the floor
Mar 20 23:56:49 <jcpham>	UL stickers
Mar 20 23:56:55 <jcpham>	don't forget UL stickers
Mar 20 23:57:00 <[\\\]>	FCC certification
Mar 20 23:57:11 <pigeons>	i'm seriously waiting for avalon asics to be common and then bfl buy them and slap butterfly stickers on them and ship
Mar 20 23:57:14 <ThickAsThieves>	bflcoin
Mar 20 23:57:16 <[\\\]>	oh god, we ran out of made in america sickers
Mar 20 23:57:18 <[\\\]>	stickers*
Mar 20 23:57:22 <jcpham>	should probably just email their support this caht
Mar 20 23:57:28 <jcpham>	to let them know we're wise
Mar 20 23:57:34 <[\\\]>	jcpham: just trying to help him out
Mar 20 23:57:43 <[\\\]>	why lie when you can have others do it for you?
Mar 20 23:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons they won't be common tho.
Mar 20 23:57:48 <jcpham>	they should pay us
Mar 20 23:58:01 <[\\\]>	pigeons: did you see the avalon that just sold on ebay for $20k?
Mar 20 23:58:05 <[\\\]>	they won't be common
Mar 20 23:58:07 <Luke-Jr>	[\\\]: they have a simple shell script they run when people demand an excsue
Mar 20 23:58:13 <pigeons>	no shit, people are nuts
Mar 20 23:58:13 <jcpham>	i did see that auction
Mar 20 23:58:19 <jcpham>	cray cray
Mar 20 23:58:22 <[\\\]>	Luke-Jr: you realize that you have to go in there tomorrow?
Mar 20 23:58:29 <Luke-Jr>	lol
Mar 20 23:58:29 <[\\\]>	and I'm going to send them a gpgsigned copy of this log
Mar 20 23:58:38 <Luke-Jr>	better not ;)
Mar 20 23:58:42 <jcpham>	Luke-Jr goes to BFL tomorrow?
Mar 20 23:58:45 <pigeons>	gpg signed by freenode or what
Mar 20 23:58:48 <[\\\]>	jcpham: he's there now
Mar 20 23:58:49 <Luke-Jr>	I could always go downtown instead..
Mar 20 23:58:55 <[\\\]>	pigeons: no, by conman
Mar 20 23:58:57 <jcpham>	oh that should be neat
Mar 20 23:58:58 <[\\\]>	I know he'd send it
Mar 20 23:59:00 <pigeons>	i'll gpg sign a copy of some shit i make up
Mar 20 23:59:08 <jcpham>	video luke-jr
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Mar 20 23:59:14 <jcpham>	i'll drop ship a camera
Mar 20 23:59:14 <[\\\]>	;;google Luke-Jr
Mar 20 23:59:14 <pigeons>	who's conman? trendon?
Mar 20 23:59:15 <gribble>	luke-jr (Luke-Jr) · GitHub: <https://github.com/luke-jr>; User:Luke-Jr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luke-Jr>; Frank Luke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luke>
Mar 20 23:59:19 <Luke-Jr>	jcpham: why? there's nothing to see
Mar 20 23:59:24 <[\\\]>	pigeons: I'm rendon
Mar 20 23:59:25 <jcpham>	PROOF
Mar 20 23:59:27 <Luke-Jr>	pigeons: a con man
Mar 20 23:59:34 <Luke-Jr>	jcpham: proof there's nothing there?
Mar 20 23:59:35 <pigeons>	oh sonny
Mar 20 23:59:45 <Luke-Jr>	nah, Sonnys cool
Mar 20 23:59:46 <jcpham>	be the guy luke-jr that does the thing
Mar 21 00:00:02 <ThickAsThieves>	be our bitcoin jesus
Mar 21 00:00:10 <pigeons>	crucify ver
Mar 21 00:00:26 <Luke-Jr>	Sonny didn't want me to take his pic by the BFL sign :P
Mar 21 00:00:37 <ThickAsThieves>	turn water into bitcoins
Mar 21 00:00:40 <jcpham>	smuggle out the contraband
Mar 21 00:00:45 <jcpham>	the pics/ the video
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Mar 21 00:00:48 <jcpham>	call geraldo
Mar 21 00:00:54 <Luke-Jr>	jcpham: got that in my laptop case
Mar 21 00:01:01 <Luke-Jr>	they called it a coaster
Mar 21 00:01:02 <jcpham>	heh
Mar 21 00:01:12 <Luke-Jr>	precursor to the coffee warmer
Mar 21 00:01:22 <Luke-Jr>	only $100 tho
Mar 21 00:01:33 <jcpham>	sell it to me for 500
Mar 21 00:01:36 <Luke-Jr>	(and doesn't mine)
Mar 21 00:01:40 <jcpham>	nm
Mar 21 00:02:09 <jcpham>	sothe vortex math crap leads to these crazy coils
Mar 21 00:02:19 <jcpham>	i got stuck on youtube for hours
Mar 21 00:02:20 <Luke-Jr>	dennou coils?
Mar 21 00:02:35 <ThickAsThieves>	luke do you own any asicminer shares?
Mar 21 00:02:50 <Luke-Jr>	ThickAsThieves: whatever the DMC shares count as
Mar 21 00:02:58 <ThickAsThieves>	11:1 i think
Mar 21 00:02:59 <jcpham>	rodin coil
Mar 21 00:03:03 <Luke-Jr>	plus some more from GLBSE
Mar 21 00:03:04 <jcpham>	starship coil
Mar 21 00:03:11 <Luke-Jr>	but not really keeping track of GLBSE crap
Mar 21 00:03:15 <pigeons>	coiledcoin
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Mar 21 00:03:22 <jcpham>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKEnXcCKD-U
Mar 21 00:03:28 <jcpham>	torroids and the universe
Mar 21 00:03:34 <jcpham>	it got real trippy i had to turn it off
Mar 21 00:04:05 <Diablo-D3>	hey, is any of SD's bitcoinds public?
Mar 21 00:04:08 <ThickAsThieves>	did you order any asics?
Mar 21 00:04:17 <jcpham>	some crazy brazilian dude is spouting crazy decimal nuclear math
Mar 21 00:04:23 <jcpham>	that leads to complex torroids
Mar 21 00:04:28 <jcpham>	and motors
Mar 21 00:04:53 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155533.msg1650422#msg1650422
Mar 21 00:05:02 <mircea_popescu>	so bitinstant clunked out or what
Mar 21 00:05:35 <jcpham>	HN linked to a TED talk today from 2010
Mar 21 00:05:38 <jcpham>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgMlfz-flz8
Mar 21 00:05:44 <jcpham>	i've been stuck on it all day
Mar 21 00:05:49 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: TED is pretty neat isnt it
Mar 21 00:05:50 <jcpham>	bitcoin is boring now
Mar 21 00:05:54 <Diablo-D3>	I really should subscribe to TED
Mar 21 00:06:00 <Diablo-D3>	like, as an RSS feed
Mar 21 00:06:06 <jcpham>	well they called it bullshit
Mar 21 00:06:15 <jcpham>	these motors and coils are not
Mar 21 00:06:18 <jcpham>	though
Mar 21 00:06:20 <Diablo-D3>	TED is neither true or not true
Mar 21 00:06:25 <Diablo-D3>	its meant to make you think again
Mar 21 00:06:39 <jcpham>	i've enjoyed a good many of the talks
Mar 21 00:06:40 <Diablo-D3>	now, presumably, it really is all true
Mar 21 00:06:58 <Diablo-D3>	even the highly theoretical stuff might be commercial in the next 20-30 years
Mar 21 00:07:16 <jcpham>	fractal antennae on cell phones a re a great example
Mar 21 00:07:17 <kakobrekla>	ohh now i can finally asseble my timeflux capacitor
Mar 21 00:07:27 <mod6>	hover boards
Mar 21 00:07:32 <jcpham>	engineers were not thinking fractals in the 40's
Mar 21 00:07:35 <pigeons>	how do you tell youtube to give you html5
Mar 21 00:07:37 <jcpham>	they should've been
Mar 21 00:07:38 <pigeons>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGMY63FF3Q&list=SP4NL9i-Fu15hhYGB-d0hmSWD1fcIvLvn1&index=2
Mar 21 00:07:44 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: yeah, but when do they start thinking with porals?
Mar 21 00:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120757.msg1300437#msg1300437
Mar 21 00:07:51 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: youtube.com/html5
Mar 21 00:07:58 <jcpham>	idk Diablo-D3
Mar 21 00:08:04 <Diablo-D3>	pigeons: not all videos are in an acceptable format yet but most are
Mar 21 00:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	obviously bitbet absent. amusingly, i imagine it's paid a good chunk of total referals ever paid in btc
Mar 21 00:08:22 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu last post?
Mar 21 00:08:25 <mircea_popescu>	ya i know
Mar 21 00:08:31 <pigeons>	these tedtalks are better than the real oness
Mar 21 00:08:48 <Diablo-D3>	[12:03:25] <jcpham> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKEnXcCKD-U
Mar 21 00:08:50 <Diablo-D3>	OH THAT GUY
Mar 21 00:09:05 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu well its burried on the bottom of the faq
Mar 21 00:09:09 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: Im thinking it has a large amount of bullshit or it depends on a function of quantum physics _no one_ understands
Mar 21 00:09:15 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu one must really look for it
Mar 21 00:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	it's been advertised multiple places on the forum tho
Mar 21 00:09:39 <kakobrekla>	ya forums is sheep
Mar 21 00:09:42 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: theres been a lot of people who've tried that
Mar 21 00:09:53 <Diablo-D3>	jcpham: all they end up doing is inventing hyperefficient motors, generators, and other shit like that
Mar 21 00:09:58 <Diablo-D3>	(and voltage converters)
Mar 21 00:10:03 <jcpham>	seems like it
Mar 21 00:10:16 <pigeons>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK62I-4cuSY&feature=share&list=SP4NL9i-Fu15hhYGB-d0hmSWD1fcIvLvn1
Mar 21 00:10:17 <Diablo-D3>	they get like 99+% efficiency and think its overunity
Mar 21 00:10:18 <jcpham>	i'm really trying to understand the jump from the bullshit charts
Mar 21 00:10:28 <jcpham>	to the torroids and the motor windings
Mar 21 00:10:38 <jcpham>	because the two are related
Mar 21 00:10:44 <Diablo-D3>	I wish all motors, dc converters, and generators were that efficient
Mar 21 00:10:45 <jcpham>	and the explanation makes no sense to me
Mar 21 00:11:04 <Diablo-D3>	like, sure, it adds weight and size
Mar 21 00:11:06 <jcpham>	they keep going back to that freaking chart
Mar 21 00:11:18 <Diablo-D3>	but imagine if Tesla had access to a 99+% efficient motor
Mar 21 00:11:31 <Diablo-D3>	it'd double their runtime in their cars
Mar 21 00:11:34 <pigeons>	im setting up a passthrough http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cps/3691470276.html
Mar 21 00:11:34 <jcpham>	this seems very much tied to tesla voodoo
Mar 21 00:11:41 <Diablo-D3>	no, I mean Tesla Motors
Mar 21 00:11:45 <Diablo-D3>	not Tesla, Son of God
Mar 21 00:11:46 <jcpham>	i understood
Mar 21 00:11:54 <jcpham>	but you understood
Mar 21 00:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla fact is ref only works if you have traffic
Mar 21 00:12:08 <jcpham>	i want one of those cars
Mar 21 00:12:10 <Diablo-D3>	Tesla, Son of God, Lord of the Cosmos, Savior of Science, etc etc probably built those in his sleep
Mar 21 00:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	and while some on the forum may stil lhave a little btc left, traffic is a diff matter.
Mar 21 00:12:29 <jcpham>	theymos is here
Mar 21 00:12:35 <jcpham>	or in 0otc
Mar 21 00:12:44 <Diablo-D3>	so I wonder how much money SD actually makes every day
Mar 21 00:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	"For those of you that are aware of the digital currency Bitcoin: There has been discovered an exploit that utilizes a series of computers on an "isolated from the internet" back-network that participates in intercepting the data stream where the bitcoins are circulated/stored. The backnet of PC's run a series of algorithms that have the net effect of doubling the bitcoin amount sent to certain addresses. This happens
Mar 21 00:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	for BOTH receiver and sender to certain bitcoin rcv address programmed into the algorithm."
Mar 21 00:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	sounds legit.
Mar 21 00:13:10 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: LOL
Mar 21 00:13:20 <pigeons>	not a passthrough i mean a fan club
Mar 21 00:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	This is working as of March 19th 2013 and if you wish to double you can simply send any whole amount to bitcoin address:
Mar 21 00:13:22 <Diablo-D3>	"hi, I cracked sha256, but Im only using it on bitcoin"
Mar 21 00:13:27 <mircea_popescu>	the whole amoun guy again
Mar 21 00:13:45 <Diablo-D3>	so
Mar 21 00:13:52 <Diablo-D3>	where is this place where bitcoins are circlulated/stored?
Mar 21 00:13:54 <Diablo-D3>	can I go there?
Mar 21 00:14:04 <pigeons>	yes the backnet
Mar 21 00:14:05 <Diablo-D3>	I bet its full of robot arms moving piles of bitcoins around
Mar 21 00:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 they bounce of off tits
Mar 21 00:14:30 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I MUST FIND THIS PLACE
Mar 21 00:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	so you  must.
Mar 21 00:14:50 *	Diablo-D3 puts on his hat and gets his walking stick
Mar 21 00:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	it's behing the candy rock mountains.
Mar 21 00:15:10 <Diablo-D3>	come on, Gandalf, we're going to mount gox!
Mar 21 00:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	The punk rolled up his big blue eyes
Mar 21 00:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	And said to the jocker, "Sandy,
Mar 21 00:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	I've hiked and hiked and wandered too,
Mar 21 00:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	But I ain't seen any candy.
Mar 21 00:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	I've hiked and hiked till my feet are sore
Mar 21 00:15:59 *	Diablo-D3 skips a few chapters
Mar 21 00:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	And I'll be damned if I hike any more
Mar 21 00:16:01 <mircea_popescu>	To be buggered sore like a hobo's whore
Mar 21 00:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	In the Big Rock Candy Mountains."
Mar 21 00:19:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8999 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 00:23:10 <jcpham>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmN1txjVBe0&feature=share&list=UUsFys1ILf8D2g5qLV-uCP8A
Mar 21 00:23:20 <jcpham>	whats this japanese obsession
Mar 21 00:24:19 <jcpham>	[\\\] thanks you've turned my world upside down
Mar 21 00:24:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8999 BTC [-]
Mar 21 00:25:40 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155546.0
Mar 21 00:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	bitme is gone if anyone was using them
Mar 21 00:28:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 21 00:28:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.50101, Best ask: 65.89890, Bid-ask spread: 0.39789, Last trade: 65.50101, 24 hour volume: 91900.48970900, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.67167
Mar 21 00:28:34 <pigeons>	yeah i used them saw the writing on the wall a few weeks ago when their one usd withdraw method, aurumxchange vouchx wouldnt work because they didnt have any reserves with aurum anymore
Mar 21 00:29:18 <toffoo>	they have ACH withdrawal too
Mar 21 00:29:50 <pigeons>	yeah thats for people who use banks
Mar 21 00:31:04 <kakobrekla>	moar milk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155098.msg1650919#msg1650919
Mar 21 00:31:24 <jcpham>	mommy...what's a bank?
Mar 21 00:32:14 <pigeons>	wow thats just insane
Mar 21 00:32:37 <pigeons>	i used to think usagi was just stupid, but this sounds evil
Mar 21 00:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons that issue has been hotly debated since last year
Mar 21 00:33:45 <pigeons>	"No one knows where the price is going next week or next month but if you have vision, you can predict what is going to happen next. "
Mar 21 00:34:05 <pigeons>	"You strike me as someone who has the sight. So. Buy a little today, buy a little tomorrow.
Mar 21 00:37:08 <jcpham>	if usagi from the forum is the person from the youtube video i was watching
Mar 21 00:37:17 <jcpham>	i can't listen anything that person says
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Mar 21 00:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4517 @ 0.0007241 = 3.2708 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 00:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 21 00:44:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.80000, Best ask: 65.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 65.80000, 24 hour volume: 91806.08215649, 24 hour low: 57.70200, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 62.68307
Mar 21 00:45:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1812 @ 0.0007241 = 1.3121 BTC [+]
Mar 21 00:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	getting here
Mar 21 00:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate midnightmagic 1 Means well, tries hard but mostly fails. Also http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-we-aspersor/
Mar 21 00:46:28 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user midnightmagic has been recorded.
Mar 21 00:53:14 <pigeons>	that's not going to get you your coffee in canada invitation re extended
Mar 21 00:59:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 21 00:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	he started it
Mar 21 01:00:21 <midnightmagic>	Did I now.
Mar 21 01:00:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.9 = 17.1 BTC [+]
Mar 21 01:00:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.9 = 16.2 BTC [+]
Mar 21 01:00:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.9 = 5.4 BTC [+]
Mar 21 01:00:54 <midnightmagic>	Did you quote me again in a paid article this time?
Mar 21 01:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	they're all free if you don't overindulge
Mar 21 01:02:12 <midnightmagic>	What's the refresh rate again? A week?
Mar 21 01:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Mar 21 01:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	you get 5 free a week, iirc, so you can take solace in the fact that the articles quoting you are free. it's the others that go ten to the penny.
Mar 21 01:05:29 <midnightmagic>	Oh did you ask me questions that I never answered?
Mar 21 01:05:39 <mircea_popescu>	yeah scroll up ?
Mar 21 01:05:41 <mircea_popescu>	or grep i guess
Mar 21 01:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	but irrespective, how's the ngzhang integrometer these days ?
Mar 21 01:06:45 <kakobrekla>	in level with zouthong
Mar 21 01:08:19 <midnightmagic>	Quoting more out of context again.
Mar 21 01:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	oh jolly.
Mar 21 01:08:56 <mircea_popescu>	you're gonna end up running for political office i suspect.
Mar 21 01:09:09 <midnightmagic>	Indeed. ngzhang's Icarus designs were available to anyone, including open-sourced fpga bitstream, pcb layouts, BOM, and supporting software.
Mar 21 01:09:29 <mircea_popescu>	this isn't a point of contention.
Mar 21 01:09:51 <midnightmagic>	He refused to allow mass-purchase of his designs, and when he took preorders for Avalon, he refused to allow single parties to buy up the entire stock.
Mar 21 01:10:12 <mircea_popescu>	because his devilish little plan was to get a bunch of people to vouch for him.
Mar 21 01:10:39 <midnightmagic>	He reversed designs of BFL and gave the information to the public. This is the evidence on which I based my opinion that he was the most ethical hardware manufacturer.
Mar 21 01:10:54 <kakobrekla>	yeah, was.
Mar 21 01:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	well, so what's your opinion now ?
Mar 21 01:11:05 <midnightmagic>	So what's your objection again?
Mar 21 01:11:57 <midnightmagic>	I don't really care that he's upped the price. With a machine that pays for itself in less than 5 days (with luck) why would he not?
Mar 21 01:12:15 <midnightmagic>	Or is it that when someone else makes money, you have a problem with that?
Mar 21 01:12:23 <mircea_popescu>	so you still view him as "one of the most ethical businesspeople I’ve seen in a long time" ?
Mar 21 01:12:50 <pigeons>	wait what did he do unethical? The thing I'm aware of is lying about having shipped when they hadn't
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Mar 21 01:13:18 <dub>	hes basically bfling
Mar 21 01:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	well pigeons, something like this basically : "Avalon took interest-free fiat-denominated loans from silly white westerner peoples, built their rigs, used them to mine a little (as people were reporting dust inside their units upon delivery) and eventually decided to not deliver at all anymore, just keep the miners and mine for themselves."
Mar 21 01:13:23 <midnightmagic>	pigeons: Do you mean the fact that they're still not done the B1 shipments?
Mar 21 01:13:31 <dub>	giving dates when he knows they wont be met
Mar 21 01:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	that's to my eyes major unethical stuff.
Mar 21 01:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	granted, i don't go by the very superficial approach most people seem to use.
Mar 21 01:14:01 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: omg dust inside. where are you getting they mined with them. doesnt seem they did
Mar 21 01:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	i guess he's never said cunt so he must be very ethical (or just not sufficiently familiar with english)
Mar 21 01:14:42 <pigeons>	midnightmagic: i mean when avalon said that batch 1 had shipped please pay for batch 2 and 2 weeks later they said ok now we're shipping batch 1 i guess they werent caught at customs like we said
Mar 21 01:15:34 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 21 01:16:39 <pigeons>	seriously, someone reported dust means they mined when the evidence seems to show they didnt
Mar 21 01:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17888 @ 0.00071661 = 12.8187 BTC [-]
Mar 21 01:16:53 <pigeons>	gonna have to have more than that
Mar 21 01:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	what'd it take ?
Mar 21 01:17:25 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: If that is, indeed, what he's done, that sucks. I don't see any evidence for them mining their own hardware (difficulty spiked only on delivery as per users self-reporting,) but then you tend to jump to conclusions a lot (as per your assertion that gmaxwell wanted to steal rich peoples' money, because you didn't grok multisig, for example,) so why let the lack of facts get in the way this time?
Mar 21 01:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	the appearing/dissapearing mystery miner people kept thinking was asicminer ?
Mar 21 01:17:55 <pigeons>	your really misinformed on this one mircea_popescu
Mar 21 01:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic you're misrepresenting the issue by clinging to this sidepoint.
Mar 21 01:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	how did avalon get their money to start this business ?
Mar 21 01:18:20 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: I'm misrepresenting that you often draw conclusions from insufficient evidence?
Mar 21 01:18:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Mar 21 01:18:32 <pigeons>	they went to the forum said give us money and we'll build some asics then they built them
Mar 21 01:18:38 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 21 01:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	and once they were built they jacked the price 5x
Mar 21 01:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	this is the crux of the issue. community gave you teh equity,
Mar 21 01:19:05 <pigeons>	so?
Mar 21 01:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	you've built yourself a corp worth money
Mar 21 01:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	and now you're fucking them over.
Mar 21 01:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	it's not nice. that is all.
Mar 21 01:19:28 <midnightmagic>	After 900 units, a giant and sudden price spike, and the fact they honour trade-ins from previous customers?  How shockingly unethical </sarcasm>
Mar 21 01:19:35 <pigeons>	how can mircea_popescu say people should be nice and not raise prices
Mar 21 01:19:38 <pigeons>	this is a troll
Mar 21 01:19:42 <mircea_popescu>	hm.
Mar 21 01:19:54 <mircea_popescu>	i'm seriously the only one of us three seeing an issue here ?
Mar 21 01:19:59 <pigeons>	yes
Mar 21 01:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	world fulla surprises.
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Mar 21 01:20:23 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Someone's making money, money is king, except when you don't directly benefit. Then you suddenly grow a conscience?
Mar 21 01:20:49 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: If they are doing what you're saying, then that is utter bullshit. Total crap, because it's competing with their own customers.
Mar 21 01:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic you know, you shouldn't let your preconceived notions blind you so.
Mar 21 01:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	the only equitable way here is for avalon to recognise everyone that paid them for rigs for their equity contribution, and distribute revenue from now on.
Mar 21 01:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	this "you've financed our corp so here's a complimentary biscuit" doesn't really cut it.
Mar 21 01:23:25 <pigeons>	they said give us X we give you a prduct
Mar 21 01:23:34 <pigeons>	and the people who got them are happy
Mar 21 01:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons neither those are material objections.
Mar 21 01:23:50 <pigeons>	wow your in space
Mar 21 01:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	they claimed they're selling an item, but the item didn't at the time exist. the people "pre ordering" simply made equity contributions.
Mar 21 01:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	you don't have to agree for this to be the case.
Mar 21 01:24:36 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Actually, it's more ethical to ensure widespread device installation.
Mar 21 01:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic ethical != what'd be most desirable you know ?
Mar 21 01:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	sure, for bitcoin widespread mining is the best outcome.
Mar 21 01:25:07 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Ethical is what's we're talking about here isn't it?
Mar 21 01:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	but ethical is a deductive process.
Mar 21 01:25:34 <mircea_popescu>	so let's try and follow this logic see where the problems lie.
Mar 21 01:25:43 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: are you seriously basing your allegegations of self mining on reports of dust?
Mar 21 01:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons yes, but i consider that a sidepoint of little importance
Mar 21 01:26:06 <pigeons>	that is usagi level insane
Mar 21 01:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Mar 21 01:26:27 <pigeons>	no wonder you thought enough alike to have his assets in your cdos
Mar 21 01:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 21 01:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	woe upon me for trying to give bitcoi nnoobs chances etc.
Mar 21 01:27:01 <pigeons>	there is plenty of evidence that each unit shipped and reported delivered corresponded with the estimated hashrate, and on the other hand you calim someone had dust
Mar 21 01:27:04 <pigeons>	everything has dust
Mar 21 01:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	no piece of hardware i ever bought as new came with dust in it.
Mar 21 01:27:38 <pigeons>	wow
Mar 21 01:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	"everything" may be irrelevant in this discussiong.
Mar 21 01:27:48 <pigeons>	everything
Mar 21 01:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	are you taking some sort of microscopic dust approach ?
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Mar 21 01:28:42 <pigeons>	no, go to the factory, take something off the line put it in a box for 2.5 days, then run your finger over it
Mar 21 01:28:50 <midnightmagic>	I posit an alternate explanation: they purchased or had available the case metal prior to assembly, sitting in a supply bay somewhere.
Mar 21 01:29:10 <pigeons>	why did their pre-mining yeild them no coins or increased hashrate
Mar 21 01:29:17 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic well... that may be.
Mar 21 01:29:21 <midnightmagic>	Which one is more likely based on hashrate increases post-asicminer claimed hashrate?
Mar 21 01:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons again, the mystery miner people thought was asicminer.
Mar 21 01:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic there was a one thing doingmore than asic at some point.
Mar 21 01:29:41 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Which mystery miner is this you're talking about, anyway?
Mar 21 01:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	the one friedcat had to say "it's not us"
Mar 21 01:30:01 <pigeons>	why are they such logistical geniouses that they had their units way ahead of sheculed when it bankrupted everyone else so far ahead of schedule they could pre mine except the hashrate and genratded coins dont show it
Mar 21 01:30:28 <pigeons>	no wonder people dont tell you who they are every time they turn up some units mircea
Mar 21 01:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, this entire pre miningargument is a waste of time. i said "a little", you so far are making a case it's not a lot, maybe it;'s not a lot.
Mar 21 01:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	proving its not at all will be too hard to be worth it, so can we just leave it aside ?
Mar 21 01:31:31 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Primarily, you have said that the b3 update shows they are unethical. So far you have said "they took preorder money" and "they mined prior to sale" as your claims for this to be so.  Anything else?
Mar 21 01:31:40 <midnightmagic>	A + B -> C
Mar 21 01:31:48 <midnightmagic>	A', therefore B -> C?
Mar 21 01:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, if we can get to it, i'd like to explain this pre order money thing, cause it's what's important here.
Mar 21 01:31:55 <mircea_popescu>	so :
Mar 21 01:32:15 <midnightmagic>	Okay go ahead. Also, you don't have my permission to quote anything I've said today.
Mar 21 01:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	any capital exchange will be for consideration. the nature of this consideration is not the empire of the parties, but a matter of fact.
Mar 21 01:32:33 <kakobrekla>	!rules midnightmagic
Mar 21 01:32:47 <mircea_popescu>	so for instance if you pay a girl five dollars to feel her underwear and she sucks your cock while you do it
Mar 21 01:32:53 <mircea_popescu>	this was prostitution, not textile appreciation.
Mar 21 01:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	this was point 1.
Mar 21 01:33:48 <pigeons>	that's supposed to mean they werent supposed to take money to develop asics then deliver the asics?
Mar 21 01:33:48 <midnightmagic>	kakobrekla: Actually, channel rules don't supercede explicitly-defined moral rights under the copyright acts of both Canada and Romania.
Mar 21 01:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	point 2 : any purchase may only be entertained by a seller of an existant item. nobody can sell what they don't own.
Mar 21 01:34:14 <kakobrekla>	midnightmagic you should read that before you join or /part
Mar 21 01:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	becaue of this, any purported sale of inexistant mining equipment is to be quashed as such.
Mar 21 01:34:22 <kakobrekla>	as you join
Mar 21 01:34:23 <pigeons>	!rules
Mar 21 01:34:25 <kakobrekla>	not before
Mar 21 01:34:38 <pigeons>	you are off the deep end mircea_popescu
Mar 21 01:34:44 <kakobrekla>	well or before if you see the web page first.
Mar 21 01:34:44 <midnightmagic>	kakobrekla: I am aware that this channel was made a publically-logged channel (but not in the topic) as a top-down directive because you are in the #bitcoin-* namespace.
Mar 21 01:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	point 3 : any capital transfer with a view of a common enterprise is an equity buy, entitling the payer to a stake in the common enterprise, as agreed
Mar 21 01:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	and if no such agreement exists, to an equitable stake.
Mar 21 01:35:13 <kakobrekla>	midnightmagic cool then you wont have problems with quoting.
Mar 21 01:35:25 <midnightmagic>	kakobrekla: I have a problem with the quoting mircea does. It's illegal.
Mar 21 01:35:37 <midnightmagic>	kakobrekla: Plain logs I have no problem with.
Mar 21 01:35:41 <mircea_popescu>	now, this is how things are. this isn't open to debate, it's long established point of law. you're welcome to challenge it, but it can't be challenged by simple personal exceptionalism.
Mar 21 01:35:46 <mircea_popescu>	you'll have to quote and construct arguments.
Mar 21 01:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	now, on the basis of this, if you later charge more per item than what you've disbursed to your original equity holders,
Mar 21 01:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	you owe them on the difference.
Mar 21 01:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.47139999 = 9.8994 BTC [-]
Mar 21 01:37:04 <midnightmagic>	kakobrekla: Actually, to be honest, I wish there were complete logs of this channel up somewhere..
Mar 21 01:37:09 <pigeons>	why didnt you tell them and they buyers that "give me money and ill build something for you and mail it to you" legally means you get equity in the company too in your made up world when they stated taking orders
Mar 21 01:37:14 <kakobrekla>	midnightmagic :p
Mar 21 01:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons it's not my made-up world.
Mar 21 01:37:56 <pigeons>	well why didnt you bring it up when they started
Mar 21 01:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	actually, if bfl delivering weren't such a moot point, i'd be collecting these rights as we speak and sueingthem into oblivion anyway
Mar 21 01:38:13 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons i don't recall them asking / me caring at that tiem.
Mar 21 01:38:21 <pigeons>	why do you care now then
Mar 21 01:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons the price increase is the trigger.
Mar 21 01:38:44 <pigeons>	hypocrite
Mar 21 01:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	they could have *maybe* weaseled it past if they just kept doing the same thing.
Mar 21 01:38:57 <midnightmagic>	mircea_popescu: Are pre-orders for nonexistent hardware illegal in China?
Mar 21 01:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	what's hypocritical about that ?
Mar 21 01:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	midnightmagic i have no idea about chinese law. my judgement as to ethics is based on my space, not theirs.
Mar 21 01:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	i would imagien ethics are universal, but who knows.
Mar 21 01:40:34 <Namworld>	They don't appear universal. Opinions seems to differ greatly on the topic.
Mar 21 01:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	hey, i'm strictly the keeper of mine.
Mar 21 01:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	which is why i even bothered to post.
Mar 21 01:41:11 <midnightmagic>	You are speaking of two orthogonal points it seems to me.
Mar 21 01:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	go on ?
Mar 21 01:42:01 <midnightmagic>	You are making comments about suing them into oblivion, while simultaneously ignoring jurisdiction.
Mar 21 01:42:12 <mircea_popescu>	read closer. sueing discussion was re bfl
Mar 21 01:42:16 <mircea_popescu>	i have jurisdiction on those.
Mar 21 01:42:20 <midnightmagic>	Ah so it is.
Mar 21 01:42:26 <mircea_popescu>	sadly they have no product, and so...
Mar 21 01:44:30 <midnightmagic>	I don't think you wrote those words.
Mar 21 01:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	which words ?!
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Mar 21 01:47:57 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the shocker for me in all this is that i thought all this is plain obvious to anyone considering the matter.
Mar 21 01:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	turns out it's about as unexpected as it gets ?
Mar 21 01:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder wtf.
Mar 21 01:50:31 <midnightmagic>	It almost seems as though you have misinterpreted your own assertions.
Mar 21 01:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be a new one.
Mar 21 01:50:48 <midnightmagic>	Since I am no longer confident I am arguing just with you, I'm going to stop now.
Mar 21 01:51:24 <midnightmagic>	Tell whoever it is who's giving you those words to explain them better next time.
Mar 21 01:54:00 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 21 01:54:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00072608 = 3.9934 BTC [+]
Mar 21 01:54:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36450 @ 0.00072727 = 26.509 BTC [+]
Mar 21 01:54:38 <midnightmagic>	Moving on, if and when there is in fact evidence that ngzhang is acting unethically (I do not view a price increase on its own as unethical) I will be happy to eat my own words.
Mar 21 01:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	so this is all fine & dandy best you can determine then ?\
Mar 21 01:56:03 <midnightmagic>	Until then, I'm not going to discount his vastly understated Icarus+Lancelot contributions simply because some random guy asserts a bunch of unsubstantiated rumours to troll others into providing information when he could just ask.
Mar 21 01:56:23 <midnightmagic>	I am disappointed in the price increase if that's what you're asking.
Mar 21 01:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	what, an aesthetic rather than ethical consideration ?
Mar 21 01:57:34 <midnightmagic>	I wonder if you take my words and argue them with other people...
Mar 21 01:57:59 <midnightmagic>	It would provide the underpinnings of an excuse for what you're doing on your blog.
Mar 21 01:58:25 <mircea_popescu>	you're not quite that important, sorry to burst that bubble.
Mar 21 01:58:31 <mircea_popescu>	but you've failed to answer.
Mar 21 01:58:37 <midnightmagic>	How trite.
Mar 21 01:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	or are you about to tell me you're metaphisically dissapointed ?
Mar 21 01:58:47 <mircea_popescu>	cause there  just aren't that many categories left.
Mar 21 02:01:38 <midnightmagic>	lol, I'm apparently important enough to misquote and reputationally impugn twice as retaliation for not being part of your echo chamber.
Mar 21 02:01:51 <mircea_popescu>	eh get out, retaliation and whatnot
Mar 21 02:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	vast conspiracies of evil people whispering me basic law in the ear
Mar 21 02:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	wth is this, the movies ?
Mar 21 02:02:57 <midnightmagic>	Nice deflection.
Mar 21 02:03:33 <midnightmagic>	I wouldn't call it aesthetic nor ethical objection to a price increase.
Mar 21 02:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	what deflection ? yer the one trying (kinda lame-y) to impugn or whatever.
Mar 21 02:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	yes well, it has to have a source you know ?
Mar 21 02:04:05 <midnightmagic>	Just simple disappointment because I was considering at last doing a trade-in of my Icarus but I don't want them to charge me batch #3 prices.
Mar 21 02:04:16 <mircea_popescu>	if it's not your idea of how things should be and it's not your idea of beauty, and it's not what you expect the gods want then what is it
Mar 21 02:04:28 <mircea_popescu>	you know midnightmagic , you are currently speaking in prose.
Mar 21 02:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	there's also verse.
Mar 21 02:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	these two are all there's available to you. if you're not speaking in verse, then it's prose. necessarily.
Mar 21 02:05:10 <midnightmagic>	Count the meter, I guess?
Mar 21 02:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. so, stop being such a weasel.
Mar 21 02:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's an ethical issue, you just don't want to face it.
Mar 21 02:06:12 <midnightmagic>	It's a personal loss of potential future earnings. I would say it's purely internal.
Mar 21 02:06:50 <midnightmagic>	(In terms of what disappoints me.)
Mar 21 02:06:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
Mar 21 02:07:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
Mar 21 02:08:30 <midnightmagic>	I just find your hypocrisy growing by leaps and bounds this last while, and I don't understand what's unravelling you.
Mar 21 02:09:32 <mircea_popescu>	hum.
Mar 21 02:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00521073 = 10.9425 BTC [-]
Mar 21 02:09:56 <mircea_popescu>	can you articulate this feeling of yours ?
Mar 21 02:10:18 <midnightmagic>	What is your problem anyway? Like if bitcoin is such a source of contention for you, why don't you just shake your head at its stupid inanities (sociopathic community elements included) and move on?
Mar 21 02:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9062 @ 0.00072537 = 6.5733 BTC [-]
Mar 21 02:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 554 @ 0.00072506 = 0.4017 BTC [-]
Mar 21 02:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	you can ask yourself the same thing, neh ?
Mar 21 02:11:00 <midnightmagic>	I'm asking you.
Mar 21 02:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	why exactly would i do or not do anything because some people are stupid/unethical/whartever ?
Mar 21 02:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	not really much to me either way.
Mar 21 02:12:10 <midnightmagic>	You sure don't act like it's not really much. You get worked up over little things more these days than you used to.
Mar 21 02:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	i get worked up ?
Mar 21 02:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	listen, simmer with all the projections kay ?
Mar 21 02:12:59 <midnightmagic>	Well, the vitriol you post here and on your blog is quite a vent.
Mar 21 02:13:24 <midnightmagic>	Like, what do you care whether evidence should or is or isn't updating my opinion?
Mar 21 02:13:45 <mircea_popescu>	i don't particularly care. i wanted to know whether it does or it doesn't.
Mar 21 02:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	can't get too far in life without evaluating people.
Mar 21 02:14:35 <midnightmagic>	Yeah but why? If I'm so inconsequential, so vapid that everything I ascribe to you is somehow just a reflection of self, and you're this bulletproof supercock, then why do you want to know?
Mar 21 02:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	because i want to know everything.
Mar 21 02:15:28 <midnightmagic>	Then you do care by your own admission.
Mar 21 02:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	no. caring is personal. knowledge is impersonal. there's a categorical distinction you're trying to equivocate.
Mar 21 02:16:19 <midnightmagic>	The drive to know a specific topic is very personal, especially when it's the personal drives of someone else.
Mar 21 02:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	not really. i'm merely interacting with you on the grounds of you speaking in this public channel.
Mar 21 02:16:42 <midnightmagic>	There is, and will never be, personal gain for you to know what's going on in my head.
Mar 21 02:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	you made some statements of a third party, they're part of the public record,
Mar 21 02:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	i wish to know for the future how much faith to place in your similar statements.
Mar 21 02:17:07 <midnightmagic>	No they're not.
Mar 21 02:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	that's your contention, but it doesn't carry much water with me.
Mar 21 02:17:30 <midnightmagic>	That's because you're an unabashed lawbreaker.
Mar 21 02:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	but as long as you talk in the market you're participating to the public discussion.
Mar 21 02:18:15 <midnightmagic>	Your poor English is making your diction ambiguous again.
Mar 21 02:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok.
Mar 21 02:19:16 <midnightmagic>	Well, if you think this is all a one-way sponge going on, I guess we're done.
Mar 21 02:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	sorry i couldn't care more.
Mar 21 02:20:27 <midnightmagic>	Don't worry, it's just because you're a sociopath. I'll care enough for the both of us.
Mar 21 02:27:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00450321 = 4.5032 BTC [-]
Mar 21 02:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0045032 = 22.516 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 02:35:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00559697 BTC [+]
Mar 21 02:35:49 <mircea_popescu>	o look, we're nearing 50 th/s
Mar 21 02:36:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00072506 = 5.5467 BTC [-]
Mar 21 02:36:27 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 21 02:36:29 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227087 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 720 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 10 hours, 17 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6308385.69152 | Estimated Percent Change: 30.13294
Mar 21 02:40:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.9 = 4.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 02:42:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.88600, Best ask: 65.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11400, Last trade: 64.88600, 24 hour volume: 90256.56593335, 24 hour low: 57.90100, 24 hour high: 66.00000, 24 hour vwap: 63.17442
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Mar 21 02:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4596 @ 0.00072506 = 3.3324 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 03:09:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 129 @ 0.000729 = 0.094 BTC [+]
Mar 21 03:09:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000733 = 0.0733 BTC [+]
Mar 21 03:09:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 671 @ 0.000734 = 0.4925 BTC [+]
Mar 21 03:11:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 140 @ 0.00439 = 0.6146 BTC [+]
Mar 21 03:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.998 = 19.98 BTC [+]
Mar 21 03:12:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 27 @ 2 = 54 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 03:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4585 @ 0.00070682 = 3.2408 BTC [-]
Mar 21 03:25:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3221 @ 0.00069894 = 2.2513 BTC [-]
Mar 21 03:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1294 @ 0.00069171 = 0.8951 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 03:33:28 <Bowjob>	now is that ebay auction for avalon 2 legit
Mar 21 03:33:30 <Bowjob>	20 grand?
Mar 21 03:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3127 @ 0.00070693 = 2.2106 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 03:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00072059 = 3.0625 BTC [+]
Mar 21 03:43:59 <Bowjob>	kako, you here?
Mar 21 03:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2054 @ 0.00072059 = 1.4801 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 04:05:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 38 @ 0.1 = 3.8 BTC [-]
Mar 21 04:07:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 29 @ 0.104999 = 3.045 BTC [+]
Mar 21 04:07:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 150 @ 0.105 = 15.75 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 04:12:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 135 @ 0.0041 = 0.5535 BTC [-]
Mar 21 04:13:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 31 @ 0.00439 = 0.1361 BTC [+]
Mar 21 04:14:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00072466 = 8.4785 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 04:24:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01607 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 04:25:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.016779 BTC [+]
Mar 21 04:25:15 <Anduck>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 21 04:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00381798 / 0.00435682 / 0.005598 (162469 shares, 707.85 BTC), 7D: 0.00381798 / 0.00453636 / 0.00599963 (295897 shares, 1,342.30 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00592746 / 0.00675813 (2469929 shares, 14,640.42 BTC)
Mar 21 04:26:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00177 BTC [-]
Mar 21 04:28:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000734 BTC [+]
Mar 21 04:40:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.899 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 04:43:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6246 @ 0.00072727 = 4.5425 BTC [+]
Mar 21 04:43:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4254 @ 0.00073067 = 3.1083 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 04:44:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0039 = 0.0312 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 04:44:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.00381 = 1.905 BTC [-]
Mar 21 04:44:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 190 @ 0.00381 = 0.7239 BTC [-]
Mar 21 04:48:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.899 = 7.192 BTC [-]
Mar 21 04:49:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 04:58:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.349 BTC [+]
Mar 21 05:00:43 <Bowjob>	I gave a hobo $5.00 today
Mar 21 05:00:53 <Bowjob>	fuck, he probably will use it for drugs
Mar 21 05:00:54 <Bowjob>	:/
Mar 21 05:01:18 <Namworld>	Your point is?
Mar 21 05:01:34 <Bowjob>	he said he was gonna buy a burger
Mar 21 05:01:53 <Bowjob>	i watched him as i walked upstairs, didnt go to the a&w closeby
Mar 21 05:02:38 <Namworld>	Still?
Mar 21 05:02:50 <Bowjob>	he probably lied :/
Mar 21 05:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 2 = 14 BTC [+]
Mar 21 05:03:17 <Namworld>	A statement of the obvious. I prefer when they don't talk.
Mar 21 05:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	next time ask hi mif he accepts bitcoin
Mar 21 05:04:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's what bitcoin jesus (tm) would do.
Mar 21 05:06:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.349 = 1.047 BTC [+]
Mar 21 05:07:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3495 BTC [+]
Mar 21 05:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2296705/Accept-raid-savings-face-ruin-Cyprus-warned-hopes-Russia-led-rescue-ice.html
Mar 21 05:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	heh. banking vacation extended till next tue
Mar 21 05:08:17 <mircea_popescu>	that's 8 days
Mar 21 05:12:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 17 @ 0.00438 = 0.0745 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 05:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://redhotrussia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/yekaterina-putina.jpg
Mar 21 05:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	the chick in that pic is putin's younger and rather hawd daughter.
Mar 21 05:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	supposedly that's her hubby.
Mar 21 05:24:37 <Bowjob>	nurseries are starting to open.. but they only pay $10.25 for the most part
Mar 21 05:24:37 <Bowjob>	bah
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Mar 21 05:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 21 05:32:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 66.50001, Best ask: 66.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38999, Last trade: 66.50001, 24 hour volume: 91099.23550100, 24 hour low: 58.80000, 24 hour high: 66.89000, 24 hour vwap: 63.56070
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Mar 21 05:36:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.899 = 8.99 BTC [-]
Mar 21 05:38:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [-]
Mar 21 05:38:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.888 = 1.776 BTC [-]
Mar 21 05:38:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.888 = 1.776 BTC [-]
Mar 21 05:38:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.899 = 5.394 BTC [+]
Mar 21 05:41:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1099 BTC [+]
Mar 21 05:42:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.109978 = 1.0998 BTC [+]
Mar 21 05:42:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.109979 = 0.6599 BTC [+]
Mar 21 05:45:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.01605 = 0.0803 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 05:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4746 @ 0.00073067 = 3.4678 BTC [+]
Mar 21 05:55:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.3332 = 2.6656 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 06:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155098.msg1651284#msg1651284 lol win.
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Mar 21 06:04:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00074208 = 4.8606 BTC [+]
Mar 21 06:04:51 <Bowjob>	http://imgur.com/FrIyqxY
Mar 21 06:04:54 <Bowjob>	awww
Mar 21 06:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	eee
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Mar 21 06:15:25 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Mar 21 06:15:45 <Diablo-D3>	I just wrote a script that can calculate your SD earnings if you keep putting your entire money in
Mar 21 06:15:51 <Diablo-D3>	http://pastebin.com/Sw5vbxre
Mar 21 06:16:29 <Diablo-D3>	it obviously doesn't have all the possible outcomes
Mar 21 06:17:00 <Diablo-D3>	but you can add those
Mar 21 06:17:41 <Diablo-D3>	you have to edit the first two variables too
Mar 21 06:18:05 <Diablo-D3>	and its rigged that you're doing 1 BTC per bet
Mar 21 06:18:49 <Diablo-D3>	you'll have to multiply $winnings on line 53 against your bet size
Mar 21 06:22:16 <mircea_popescu>	so a basic martingale script ?
Mar 21 06:22:50 <Diablo-D3>	http://pastebin.com/EPi228Ay
Mar 21 06:22:59 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: possibly
Mar 21 06:23:02 <Diablo-D3>	now does bet sizes
Mar 21 06:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	i think i have bitcoin's funniest inbox. i say so. people more tortured than me show me snippets from their ticket systems such as "hi, how do i transfer this to silkroad?"
Mar 21 06:24:32 <mircea_popescu>	i lower my head in shame.
Mar 21 06:24:44 <Diablo-D3>	what.
Mar 21 06:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	no, i don't have bitcoin's funniest inbox. bitcoin is just too funny for one single person.
Mar 21 06:25:03 <Diablo-D3>	milk toad is the dumbest thing ever
Mar 21 06:25:13 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, how can you NOT know thats a cia op
Mar 21 06:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 that aside, making a support ticked with your legit btc/usd exchanger on how to do this...
Mar 21 06:25:53 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, thats just, wat
Mar 21 06:26:02 <Diablo-D3>	especially since how the fuck is the exchange supposed to help you
Mar 21 06:26:12 <Diablo-D3>	bitcoin _already does this_
Mar 21 06:26:20 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 21 06:26:25 <Diablo-D3>	I assume milk toad gives you a unique address to send to
Mar 21 06:26:27 <Diablo-D3>	just _send it there_
Mar 21 06:26:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00074086 = 5.1119 BTC [-]
Mar 21 06:26:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9585 @ 0.00074208 = 7.1128 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 06:27:18 <Diablo-D3>	I dont think I wrote the actual winnings part right
Mar 21 06:27:24 <Diablo-D3>	because it thinks I should have 1380 BTC from 33.
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Mar 21 06:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	sounds legit
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Mar 21 06:35:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.899 = 2.697 BTC [+]
Mar 21 06:38:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8888 BTC [-]
Mar 21 06:38:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.885 = 2.655 BTC [-]
Mar 21 06:38:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.885 = 1.77 BTC [-]
Mar 21 06:38:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.88 = 1.76 BTC [-]
Mar 21 06:38:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.873 BTC [-]
Mar 21 06:38:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-]
Mar 21 06:41:16 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well, I dont
Mar 21 06:41:17 <Diablo-D3>	ALTHOUGH
Mar 21 06:41:22 <Diablo-D3>	my early bidding wasnt 1 each
Mar 21 06:41:33 <Diablo-D3>	er, early playing
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Mar 21 06:42:22 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: my luck is probably going to run out, but average winning is 2.39% over 351 tries
Mar 21 06:42:42 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool.
Mar 21 06:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	i've never won anything.
Mar 21 06:43:12 <Diablo-D3>	I wish I had that 1380
Mar 21 06:43:24 <Diablo-D3>	then I'd be able to afford to start DMC 2.0
Mar 21 06:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 50 @ 0.0018 = 0.09 BTC [+]
Mar 21 06:48:21 <Diablo-D3>	oh durr
Mar 21 06:48:25 <Diablo-D3>	I confused my variables
Mar 21 06:48:43 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, my winnings are much more realistic now
Mar 21 06:49:20 <Diablo-D3>	http://pastebin.com/vEbmt6PD
Mar 21 07:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lgm4poF3JWE/TgsHwby-BlI/AAAAAAAADwQ/twan94HT6p4/020.jpg
Mar 21 07:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha so old, so new.
Mar 21 07:03:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6047 @ 0.00517705 = 31.3056 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 07:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00073828 = 9.5238 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 07:18:06 <jurov>	strange...my phone suddenly says "Bitcoin: Package is invalid"
Mar 21 07:18:58 <jurov>	reinstalled the wallet app, all seems ok
Mar 21 07:19:25 <jurov>	good that i keep only pocket change there (if 1BTC is to be considered pocket change lol)
Mar 21 07:21:09 <Bowjob>	hey mp
Mar 21 07:21:10 <Bowjob>	u here
Mar 21 07:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 21 07:21:55 <Bowjob>	you should change the math question to more exotic ones
Mar 21 07:22:04 <Bowjob>	answering 36 everytime gets boring
Mar 21 07:22:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01358 BTC [-]
Mar 21 07:22:16 <Bowjob>	and a bot can easily spam it if they know the answer
Mar 21 07:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2372 @ 0.00073828 = 1.7512 BTC [-]
Mar 21 07:22:28 <mircea_popescu>	well a bot could but so far hasn't
Mar 21 07:22:31 <Bowjob>	not that a bot would spam bitbet but lol
Mar 21 07:22:32 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 21 07:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	if it happens i guess it gets changed
Mar 21 07:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	little incentive tyo spam really.
Mar 21 07:23:01 <Bowjob>	well it was more like to see who's mathematically challenged. or not
Mar 21 07:23:02 <Bowjob>	hehehe
Mar 21 07:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4668
Mar 21 07:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	The week of activities are set to conclude with a “Lace and Leather Burlsesque Show.”
Mar 21 07:23:24 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 21 07:23:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.71001, Best ask: 68.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.18998, Last trade: 68.89999, 24 hour volume: 96113.23446697, 24 hour low: 58.80000, 24 hour high: 68.90400, 24 hour vwap: 63.89423
Mar 21 07:23:31 <Bowjob>	hmm
Mar 21 07:24:00 <Bowjob>	poor fucker. my acquiantance wanted to buy bitcoins, i told him yeah, ill sell you at spot price. that was when bitcoin was $59 dollars
Mar 21 07:24:10 <Bowjob>	its scheduled this sunday
Mar 21 07:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	he's getting a deal.
Mar 21 07:27:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 21 07:27:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.70001, Best ask: 68.90582, Bid-ask spread: 0.20581, Last trade: 68.70001, 24 hour volume: 96314.01940328, 24 hour low: 58.80000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 63.91369
Mar 21 07:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	whoa 68
Mar 21 07:28:13 <Bowjob>	cypriot banks are still closed?
Mar 21 07:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	till tues
Mar 21 07:29:42 <Bowjob>	this is just the appetizer then
Mar 21 07:31:10 <jurov>	was anything interesting discussed last night?
Mar 21 07:31:18 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155730.0
Mar 21 07:31:21 <Bowjob>	nothing new
Mar 21 07:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	jurov nothing much. depends what your interests are.
Mar 21 07:31:35 <Bowjob>	75% of the voters think BFL should get a scammy tag
Mar 21 07:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	also, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135319215825.jpg
Mar 21 07:31:52 <jurov>	i ended by catholic churches in KC, thought prolly i can be doing sth more productive
Mar 21 07:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	o, that.
Mar 21 07:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	well there was the entire avalon drama earlier
Mar 21 07:32:33 <Bowjob>	oh yeah, batch 3
Mar 21 07:32:43 <Bowjob>	prices in BTC, not tied to fiat
Mar 21 07:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/21/us-cyprus-russia-euro-idUSBRE92K05K20130321
Mar 21 07:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	this won't end well.
Mar 21 07:34:01 <jurov>	i wholeheartedly support avalon/bfl. as long as they cause interest in difficulty futures, which difficulty then fails to materialize
Mar 21 07:34:19 <Bowjob>	so each avalon batch 3 will cost 88 btc ea
Mar 21 07:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 21 07:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob no, more like 115
Mar 21 07:34:39 <Bowjob>	well, 115 is the 4 modules
Mar 21 07:34:52 <Bowjob>	88 btc for 3, + 2 btc for the psu
Mar 21 07:34:55 <Bowjob>	then shipping
Mar 21 07:34:58 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 21 07:35:00 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227144 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 663 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 22 hours, 24 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6391557.23688 | Estimated Percent Change: 31.84865
Mar 21 07:35:09 <Bowjob>	they are really nailing batch 3 customers this time
Mar 21 07:35:40 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think they want any batch 3 customers
Mar 21 07:35:52 <Bowjob>	what i dont get is why are they taking a vacation
Mar 21 07:35:54 <Bowjob>	i mean wtf
Mar 21 07:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	basically, they got the design all paid and tested, will deliver whatever and now time to selfmine
Mar 21 07:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	just relocate.
Mar 21 07:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	move to new place, get some warehouses, start biz for real
Mar 21 07:36:37 <Bowjob>	a vacation.. they already did so much.. might as well finish the damn job
Mar 21 07:37:15 <jurov>	angela merkel can't be *that* stupid.. or she really doesn't have other option
Mar 21 07:37:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 17 @ 0.109 = 1.853 BTC [-]
Mar 21 07:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	jurov they totally fucked up that. i've seriously not seen worse diplomacy since bush.
Mar 21 07:37:51 <jurov>	yea totally
Mar 21 07:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	basically they failed to understand the "stolen" money in the oligarchs bank accounts isn't stolen by those oligarchs from the state
Mar 21 07:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	it's stolen by the state from the people.
Mar 21 07:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	they pinched the bear by the nose.
Mar 21 07:39:01 <jurov>	even without considering russians, that's still worst possible solution
Mar 21 07:39:07 <mircea_popescu>	it's the second time she fucked up, incidentally. the closing down of nuclear plants was already indicative. she doesn't think too well.
Mar 21 07:39:15 <jurov>	London City denizens must be seeing red, too
Mar 21 07:39:21 <mircea_popescu>	she just goes on whatever data she has. often that's crap, and when it is she doesn't know about it,.
Mar 21 07:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	no "data integrity sense" so to speak.
Mar 21 07:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	angela merkel lacks the parity bit.
Mar 21 07:39:48 <jurov>	lol
Mar 21 07:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	when it gets to the point where retired folks see plainly they're riding into a wall and they have no clue you know things won't end well.
Mar 21 07:43:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
Mar 21 07:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2255 @ 0.00073552 = 1.6586 BTC [-]
Mar 21 07:45:39 <Diablo-D3>	oh, that german bitch?
Mar 21 07:45:43 <Diablo-D3>	shes going to destroy germany at this rate
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Mar 21 07:49:40 <bitesak>	that's maybe what she was hired for
Mar 21 07:51:02 <Diablo-D3>	so germany's bush
Mar 21 07:51:06 <Bowjob>	when germany gets destroyed bad things happen
Mar 21 07:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much comes to that.
Mar 21 07:51:12 <Bowjob>	maybe we'll see the 4th reich
Mar 21 07:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	not terribly likely. so far she's getting a dissident wing in her party
Mar 21 07:51:36 <mircea_popescu>	and crucial allies got quashed in landeselections
Mar 21 07:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	she's prolly getting wiped next turn
Mar 21 07:53:33 <jurov>	in other news, all libertarian hipsters will conveniently concentrate themselves on one ship: http://www.reddit.com/r/xnation
Mar 21 07:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	"IAmA RedditIsland Steering Team committee member and Seasteading Institute Ambassador. AMA"
Mar 21 07:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	ok. what ?
Mar 21 07:54:34 <jurov>	zactly as it says on title.
Mar 21 07:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	is this some sort of manga thing ?
Mar 21 07:55:22 <Diablo-D3>	http://hbr.org/2013/04/when-ted-lost-control-of-its-crowd/ar/1
Mar 21 07:55:25 <Diablo-D3>	hehehehehe
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Mar 21 07:59:39 <mircea_popescu>	sgornick re http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/c8opxkz
Mar 21 07:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	all the bitcoin sellers are short bitcoin from the moment they take fiat till when they deliver btc
Mar 21 08:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	since most take the fiat first as a precaution there's unwanted short interest created in large volumes all the time
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Mar 21 08:04:47 <tiberiusiv>	damn almost 70
Mar 21 08:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	getting there.
Mar 21 08:05:08 <mircea_popescu>	i guess 100 is the big q remaining
Mar 21 08:05:15 <tiberiusiv>	just going to end badly when everyone herds to the exit
Mar 21 08:05:39 <Bowjob>	but cashing out to fiat doesnt really make sense
Mar 21 08:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	"Internet tax supporters are hoping that a vote in the U.S. Senate as early as today will finally give them enough political leverage to require Americans to pay sales taxes when shopping online.
Mar 21 08:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	lalala.
Mar 21 08:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	please do good people. please do.
Mar 21 08:06:04 <tiberiusiv>	why not some people sitting on huge gains maybe they want to buystuff
Mar 21 08:06:29 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv it becomes problematic tho. the poor probably quit already, the rich really don't have a problem of getting fiat
Mar 21 08:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	they have a problem of storing wealth
Mar 21 08:06:43 <Bowjob>	i feel the same way
Mar 21 08:06:48 <Bowjob>	though im not wealthy LOL
Mar 21 08:06:55 <deadweasel>	http://www.campaignforliberty.org/national-blog/stop-the-internet-tax-mandate/
Mar 21 08:06:56 <tiberiusiv>	thats true
Mar 21 08:06:56 <tiberiusiv>	still massive liquidity issues though
Mar 21 08:06:59 <Bowjob>	i have enough fiat for the next year to eat whatever I want
Mar 21 08:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel nono. let them tax it. finally good reason to bitcoin.
Mar 21 08:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv you know the inflexibility article right ?
Mar 21 08:07:48 <deadweasel>	mircea_popescu: i see
Mar 21 08:10:07 <Bowjob>	hey mp, is your offer of get MPEX mentioned at a newspaper?
Mar 21 08:10:29 <Bowjob>	erm
Mar 21 08:10:32 <Bowjob>	is it still valid?
Mar 21 08:10:41 <Bowjob>	*to
Mar 21 08:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Mar 21 08:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	but i mean... um.
Mar 21 08:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	it's kinda for professionals neh ?
Mar 21 08:11:33 <Bowjob>	http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/
Mar 21 08:11:56 <Bowjob>	that okay?
Mar 21 08:12:24 <Bowjob>	since i've got nothing productive to do but fap all day, and I don't feel like working a min wage
Mar 21 08:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea what that is, some local canadian paper ?
Mar 21 08:13:47 <Bowjob>	yeap
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Mar 21 08:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	ah, 	Free Urban Daily, Avg. Circulation: 	132,216
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Mar 21 08:14:44 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't seem like worth the bother, but if you've not anything better to do why not
Mar 21 08:14:57 <Bowjob>	aye
Mar 21 08:16:40 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 21 08:16:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.43998, Best ask: 68.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06001, Last trade: 68.50000, 24 hour volume: 97812.61495029, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.03919
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Mar 21 08:24:30 <tiberiusiv>	sellers are getting more motivated
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Mar 21 08:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1696 @ 0.00072466 = 1.229 BTC [-]
Mar 21 08:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00071724 = 9.5752 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 08:32:29 <Enky>	;;ticker
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Mar 21 08:32:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.01000, Best ask: 67.14374, Bid-ask spread: 0.13374, Last trade: 67.14374, 24 hour volume: 100774.97862368, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.15077
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Mar 21 08:49:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.108999 = 1.09 BTC [-]
Mar 21 08:50:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.109 = 0.327 BTC [+]
Mar 21 08:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	so ecb cyprus window ends march 25th
Mar 21 08:56:08 <TomServo>	pardon my ignorance, window for what?
Mar 21 08:57:02 <TomServo>	nvm
Mar 21 08:57:09 <bitesak>	they are threatening :)
Mar 21 08:57:57 <deadweasel>	coinbase got no more coins
Mar 21 08:58:10 <Ukto>	lvoe them canadians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w8762zEOkSo
Mar 21 08:58:11 <mircea_popescu>	all their base
Mar 21 08:58:12 <deadweasel>	doesn't make for much of a 'base'
Mar 21 08:58:28 <Ukto>	wait, coinbase what ?
Mar 21 08:58:48 <deadweasel>	cannot buy, cannot send.
Mar 21 08:59:08 <deadweasel>	i use them because it's easy, but it's not easy anymore.
Mar 21 08:59:09 <Ukto>	they are borked? is there a link ?
Mar 21 08:59:18 <Ukto>	news/forums article
Mar 21 08:59:18 <Ukto>	etc
Mar 21 08:59:48 <deadweasel>	i just went to my account, pending transfer from yesterday still stuck.  couldn't buy because they'd reached their 'daily rolling limit'
Mar 21 09:00:06 <the-bucket-shop>	this is the third time they've run out as far as I know.
Mar 21 09:03:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+]
Mar 21 09:04:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont understand this whole 'we're out of coins' thing
Mar 21 09:06:42 <deadweasel>	i don't either
Mar 21 09:06:56 <zerokwel>	fractional banking :)
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Mar 21 09:12:09 <papaso>	open a account need to pay 30btc to owner?
Mar 21 09:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.47 = 1.88 BTC [-]
Mar 21 09:17:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.471 = 2.355 BTC [+]
Mar 21 09:17:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.47139999 BTC [+]
Mar 21 09:17:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00070779 = 1.4864 BTC [-]
Mar 21 09:17:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8289 @ 0.00070736 = 5.8633 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 09:23:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00439 = 0.0263 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 09:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	i'm guessing he's new
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Mar 21 09:34:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 69.99
Mar 21 09:34:33 <gribble>	There are currently 10853.134 bitcoins offered at or under 69.99 USD, worth 747960.59105 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 21 09:34:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 269 @ 0.0042 = 1.1298 BTC [-]
Mar 21 09:35:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 68.99
Mar 21 09:35:55 <gribble>	There are currently 9907.9092 bitcoins offered at or under 68.99 USD, worth 682460.720431 USD in total. | Data vintage: 82.5744 seconds
Mar 21 09:36:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 21 09:36:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.26000, Best ask: 68.27000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 68.27000, 24 hour volume: 102768.56697483, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.31059
Mar 21 09:36:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 68.88
Mar 21 09:36:32 <gribble>	There are currently 772.42237 bitcoins offered at or under 68.88 USD, worth 52976.3574245 USD in total. | Data vintage: 118.8765 seconds
Mar 21 09:36:38 <ThickAsThieves>	hige wall
Mar 21 09:36:42 <ThickAsThieves>	huge
Mar 21 09:36:43 <imsaguy>	it'll fall
Mar 21 09:36:45 <ThickAsThieves>	must be fake
Mar 21 09:36:57 <imsaguy>	obvious walls are obvious
Mar 21 09:37:18 <ThickAsThieves>	so its just big players trying to slow down the price to buy more?
Mar 21 09:37:50 <imsaguy>	perhaps
Mar 21 09:38:03 <smickles>	risingquickly is dangerous
Mar 21 09:38:11 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Mar 21 09:38:17 <imsaguy>	twps
Mar 21 09:38:35 <ThickAsThieves>	thank you bitcoin gods
Mar 21 09:39:29 <imsaguy>	*cough* #bitcoin-church *cough*
Mar 21 09:41:11 <imsaguy>	;;later tell jcpham https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/579961_10200487886494770_693568315_n.jpg
Mar 21 09:41:12 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 21 09:42:12 <abracadabra>	ugh!
Mar 21 09:42:13 <abracadabra>	ffs
Mar 21 09:42:17 <abracadabra>	wtf did i click that
Mar 21 09:43:04 *	abracadabra fires a single round from a .50bmg into imsaguy's left ear
Mar 21 09:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135422020536.jpg try this too
Mar 21 09:43:43 <abracadabra>	bit better thx
Mar 21 09:43:46 <abracadabra>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lovaddkzaz1qjdckmo1_500.jpg
Mar 21 09:44:31 <imsaguy>	abracadabra: it wasn't address to you
Mar 21 09:44:36 <abracadabra>	yes yes
Mar 21 09:44:37 <abracadabra>	i know
Mar 21 09:44:38 <abracadabra>	:/
Mar 21 09:44:41 <abracadabra>	i'm nosy
Mar 21 09:44:42 <abracadabra>	:p
Mar 21 09:44:43 <imsaguy>	s/address/addressed/
Mar 21 09:44:46 <imsaguy>	thats what you get
Mar 21 09:45:01 <imsaguy>	be glad I didn't post #2 in the channel
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Mar 21 09:45:11 <abracadabra>	heh
Mar 21 09:45:12 <abracadabra>	thx for that
Mar 21 09:46:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128270463369.jpg ?
Mar 21 09:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2184 @ 0.00070736 = 1.5449 BTC [-]
Mar 21 09:47:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1616 @ 0.00070324 = 1.1364 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 09:51:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4714 = 4.714 BTC [+]
Mar 21 09:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.475 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 09:53:31 <MJR_>	hi everyone!
Mar 21 09:53:54 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Mar 21 09:53:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.07176, Best ask: 68.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02824, Last trade: 68.10000, 24 hour volume: 103087.94303030, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.34889
Mar 21 09:55:38 <smickles>	howdy
Mar 21 09:57:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.108 = 0.972 BTC [-]
Mar 21 09:57:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-]
Mar 21 09:58:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.898 = 1.796 BTC [+]
Mar 21 09:58:46 <mircea_popescu>	alloh
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Mar 21 10:05:21 <ThickAsThieves>	mornin
Mar 21 10:07:24 <MJR_>	what's new?
Mar 21 10:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136086280531.jpg
Mar 21 10:10:23 <imsaguy>	it must be fapfapfap o clock in romania
Mar 21 10:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.46 = 1.38 BTC [-]
Mar 21 10:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	aaalways.
Mar 21 10:12:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.108999 = 1.09 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 10:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	anyone wanna join my echo chamber ?
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Mar 21 10:27:06 <MJR_>	what is an echo chamber?
Mar 21 10:30:14 <ThickAsThieves>	a chamber of echos
Mar 21 10:30:31 <ThickAsThieves>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_(media)
Mar 21 10:30:49 <ThickAsThieves>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber
Mar 21 10:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ like a failed fortress of solitude
Mar 21 10:39:05 *	mod6 turns the reverb up to 10
Mar 21 10:39:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.17241 = 1.7241 BTC [-]
Mar 21 10:40:52 <MJR_>	sign me up
Mar 21 10:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	there's also naked chix
Mar 21 10:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [+]
Mar 21 10:43:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 10:53:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.004397 = 0.044 BTC [+]
Mar 21 10:53:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 270 @ 0.0044 = 1.188 BTC [+]
Mar 21 10:53:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 275 @ 0.0044 = 1.21 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 10:56:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00071173 = 4.0569 BTC [+]
Mar 21 10:57:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6904 @ 0.00071507 = 4.9368 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 11:06:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8979 = 1.7958 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 11:14:59 <MJR_>	so, probably unlikely but I like to think this rally was my birthday present :)
Mar 21 11:15:15 <ThickAsThieves>	happy bday
Mar 21 11:15:25 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 21 11:15:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.90000, Best ask: 68.90582, Bid-ask spread: 0.00582, Last trade: 68.90582, 24 hour volume: 107834.14770626, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.65216
Mar 21 11:15:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 69.98
Mar 21 11:15:39 <gribble>	There are currently 8729.3961 bitcoins offered at or under 69.98 USD, worth 601874.449587 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
Mar 21 11:16:35 <MJR_>	thanks :)
Mar 21 11:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P570T] 6 @ 0.05341351 = 0.3205 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:19:12 <MJR_>	I'm 31 now...old man
Mar 21 11:20:46 <ThickAsThieves>	younger than i
Mar 21 11:21:22 <splnkr>	I'd think the "-assets" channel suffix kind of implies an over-30 set
Mar 21 11:21:24 <ThickAsThieves>	my birthday is soon, i want 1btc=$100 for my birthday
Mar 21 11:21:42 <ThickAsThieves>	oh i bet we have a fair amount of youngins
Mar 21 11:22:22 <splnkr>	sure, but i'd bet it skews a whole generation older than #bitcoin =P
Mar 21 11:22:31 <MJR_>	oh nice
Mar 21 11:22:35 <MJR_>	I feel better
Mar 21 11:22:41 <mod6>	heh
Mar 21 11:22:47 <MJR_>	in the NYC start up scene im old
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Mar 21 11:22:59 <splnkr>	y'all hiring?
Mar 21 11:23:00 <splnkr>	hehe
Mar 21 11:23:10 <MJR_>	bunch of 24 year olds running around
Mar 21 11:23:30 <MJR_>	changing the world with rounded corners and drop shadows ;)
Mar 21 11:23:31 <splnkr>	they need some grown ups around, whether they know it or not
Mar 21 11:23:36 <MJR_>	lol yes
Mar 21 11:23:39 <mod6>	;;calc 2013 - 24
Mar 21 11:23:40 <gribble>	1989
Mar 21 11:23:42 <mod6>	lol
Mar 21 11:23:57 <splnkr>	wow, post-Reagan
Mar 21 11:24:12 <MJR_>	as far as hiring, not yet, hopefully soon?
Mar 21 11:24:17 <ThickAsThieves>	dropshadows are for amatuers
Mar 21 11:24:21 <MJR_>	hehehe
Mar 21 11:24:43 <splnkr>	those born after Reagan probably know a thing or two about Ronald, but those of us who lived through it remember NANCY
Mar 21 11:24:44 <MJR_>	yes you know you are l33t when you get gradients going...
Mar 21 11:24:58 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 21 11:25:06 <mod6>	haha splnkr
Mar 21 11:25:08 <ThickAsThieves>	mjr ur a designer?
Mar 21 11:25:16 <MJR_>	no...
Mar 21 11:25:29 <MJR_>	but I can and do design pages
Mar 21 11:25:43 <ThickAsThieves>	why the dropshadow ref
Mar 21 11:25:58 <MJR_>	I just like to make fun of most web based things which focus on form over function
Mar 21 11:26:11 <MJR_>	I actually like those things
Mar 21 11:26:27 <jurov>	i rather remember Raisa Maximovna :DD
Mar 21 11:26:30 <MJR_>	but those+jQuery do not make you an awesome app
Mar 21 11:26:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.859 = 7.731 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:27:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.859 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:27:05 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 21 11:27:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.75000, Best ask: 68.90581, Bid-ask spread: 0.15581, Last trade: 68.75000, 24 hour volume: 107979.47490578, 24 hour low: 59.00000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 64.67794
Mar 21 11:27:10 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 21 11:27:11 <gribble>	1 BTC = 68.75000 U.S. dollars = 53.3359193 Euros
Mar 21 11:27:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.108999 = 0.218 BTC [+]
Mar 21 11:28:22 <MJR_>	I just think that a lot of people are too focused on appearances, and it's kind of shallow in the web startup scene
Mar 21 11:28:46 <MJR_>	I think bitcoin is more focused on substance rather than "social" features
Mar 21 11:29:03 <MJR_>	anyway, I am a generalist, jack of all trades
Mar 21 11:29:12 <MJR_>	def master of none
Mar 21 11:29:21 <ThickAsThieves>	 think design & mktg are important, but not an excuse to have lacluster sunstance or functionality
Mar 21 11:29:26 <ThickAsThieves>	substance
Mar 21 11:29:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.859 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 11:29:54 <jurov>	well, what did you expect? 20somethings to tackle deeper issues?
Mar 21 11:29:54 <ThickAsThieves>	in general most bitcoin biz is bad at business
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Mar 21 11:30:41 <jurov>	i was in one coworking house here, too... they do marketing and take it very seriously
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Mar 21 11:30:56 <jurov>	datamining about what makes something viral.. their holy grail
Mar 21 11:32:02 <MJR_>	yep
Mar 21 11:32:04 <Troic_>	they are never going to get it
Mar 21 11:32:16 <jurov>	what i'm doing went completely beyond them... and when i told "and i also manage difficulty derivatives on other exchange" outright laughter
Mar 21 11:32:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:32:36 <MJR_>	like...being able to say words like "viral" and "long tail" is not enough
Mar 21 11:32:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.845202 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:32:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.845201 = 1.6904 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:32:59 <ThickAsThieves>	new fringe marketing is always passe after a year or two
Mar 21 11:33:02 <ThickAsThieves>	always somehting new
Mar 21 11:33:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.8451 = 9.2961 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:33:08 <MJR_>	jurov: yes, exactly.
Mar 21 11:33:18 <ThickAsThieves>	groupon, dead
Mar 21 11:33:24 <ThickAsThieves>	social media, profitless
Mar 21 11:33:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.845 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:33:31 <ThickAsThieves>	et
Mar 21 11:33:32 <ThickAsThieves>	c
Mar 21 11:33:37 <MJR_>	I guess it is just don't let pretty effects be a crutch or mask poor functionality
Mar 21 11:33:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84455 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:33:49 <ThickAsThieves>	less is more
Mar 21 11:33:53 <MJR_>	I agree
Mar 21 11:33:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8445 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:33:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.843 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:33:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.842 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:34:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.842 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:34:11 <MJR_>	by the way? how does the smoky dragon award work?
Mar 21 11:34:18 <jurov>	i actually wanted to get in touch with the founder, he created finviz.com so i thought he may be interested
Mar 21 11:34:19 <MJR_>	is it a nomination thing?
Mar 21 11:34:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8321 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:34:30 <MJR_>	application?
Mar 21 11:34:35 <jurov>	but he got a daughter so was never around
Mar 21 11:34:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.832 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:34:55 <jurov>	or he was tired from the kindergarten :)
Mar 21 11:35:27 <MJR_>	to which august body should I submit my claim for the Slightly Smoking Dragon award?
Mar 21 11:37:25 <MJR_>	how is the shared space jurov
Mar 21 11:37:36 <MJR_>	I may look into something like that
Mar 21 11:38:31 <jurov>	MJR_ submit it to rota :)
Mar 21 11:39:27 <jurov>	and the coworking.. dunno. while being able to smoke waterpipe while working is very fine
Mar 21 11:39:41 <jurov>	i ended up working back from home
Mar 21 11:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1425 @ 0.00496604 = 7.0766 BTC [-]
Mar 21 11:40:35 <jurov>	i didn't really got the human interaction i hoped for
Mar 21 11:41:22 <MJR_>	yeah, I can see that happening
Mar 21 11:41:45 <MJR_>	I think there is a huge untapped market for a more ubiquitous shared work space
Mar 21 11:41:55 <MJR_>	that is basically what Starbucks is
Mar 21 11:42:56 <MJR_>	if someone could offer what Starbucks offers, but better (more professional seating, Ethernet jacks, small conference rooms) and then franchise it
Mar 21 11:43:25 <jurov>	well, mere "shared space" isn't what i need
Mar 21 11:43:37 <MJR_>	yes, it's the interactions...
Mar 21 11:43:39 <jurov>	i need to talk with someone who is interested in waht i do
Mar 21 11:43:46 <MJR_>	I agree
Mar 21 11:43:56 <MJR_>	feel the same way
Mar 21 11:44:16 <jurov>	otherwise i have everything i need within 50m of my flat :)
Mar 21 11:44:27 <MJR_>	I am wondering if any of the hacker spaces in NYC have bitcoin fever
Mar 21 11:53:04 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 21 11:53:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.60001, Best ask: 68.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28999, Last trade: 68.60001, 24 hour volume: 85316.30339518, 24 hour low: 61.60000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 65.50233
Mar 21 11:53:39 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc/[ticker --last]
Mar 21 11:53:40 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hprc/" is not a valid command.
Mar 21 11:53:45 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc / [ticker --last]
Mar 21 11:53:46 <gribble>	65.41
Mar 21 11:53:57 <smickles>	;;calc [bc,24hprc] / [ticker --last]
Mar 21 11:53:59 <gribble>	0.95349840328
Mar 21 11:54:07 <smickles>	comment fuckup spam
Mar 21 11:57:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.54 = 1.08 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 12:00:57 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Mar 21 12:01:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.31945, Best ask: 69.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.57055, Last trade: 70.00000, 24 hour volume: 92664.38564521, 24 hour low: 61.60000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 65.81245
Mar 21 12:01:30 <pizzaman1337>	how can the last trade be > 24 hour high? :(
Mar 21 12:01:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00072659 = 7.3386 BTC [+]
Mar 21 12:01:49 <smickles>	pizzaman1337: are you not familiar with the way religion works?
Mar 21 12:01:52 <smickles>	it's like that
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Mar 21 12:02:11 <smickles>	they come from different sources
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Mar 21 12:02:42 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 21 12:02:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.00000, Best ask: 70.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 70.01000, 24 hour volume: 92664.38564521, 24 hour low: 61.60000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 65.81245
Mar 21 12:03:54 <smickles>	i think the high comes from mtgox's http ticker, and the last is a stored value from the websocket
Mar 21 12:04:26 <pizzaman1337>	ok, http must be behind, but I look at that one frequently
Mar 21 12:04:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 12:04:41 <gribble>	227.236835 seconds
Mar 21 12:04:46 <pizzaman1337>	looks like that wall at 69 is gone though, obviously
Mar 21 12:04:49 <smickles>	'cause amphipod showed the 70 at about the same time you tickered
Mar 21 12:05:02 <ThickAsThieves>	71.25
Mar 21 12:05:53 <Ukto>	;;ticker
Mar 21 12:05:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.55000, Best ask: 71.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45000, Last trade: 70.55000, 24 hour volume: 92664.38564521, 24 hour low: 61.60000, 24 hour high: 68.90583, 24 hour vwap: 65.81245
Mar 21 12:06:18 <ThickAsThieves>	coinlab seems to have the freshest data
Mar 21 12:07:45 <pizzaman1337>	well, looks like this one should be closing out before too long if this keeps up: http://bitbet.us/bet/206/bitcoin-market-cap-above-1-billion-before-end/
Mar 21 12:09:17 <MJR_>	$71 fuck
Mar 21 12:09:39 <smickles>	we've been outside of a 20day std. dev. for 3 days now
Mar 21 12:09:40 <MJR_>	it keeps surprising me with how fast it moves
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Mar 21 12:09:54 <ThickAsThieves>	someone mustve clicked the coinlab Buy $500k button
Mar 21 12:09:59 <MJR_>	lol nice
Mar 21 12:10:10 <MJR_>	bitcoin stahp!
Mar 21 12:10:29 <ThickAsThieves>	buy before there are no bitcoins left!
Mar 21 12:10:34 <MJR_>	lol yeah
Mar 21 12:10:41 <smickles>	i bet a lotta people look at this chart and see nothing but pump and dump
Mar 21 12:10:45 <MJR_>	yep
Mar 21 12:10:56 <MJR_>	that's why I wish it would slow back down
Mar 21 12:11:13 <kakobrekla>	MJR_ help it by selling all u got
Mar 21 12:11:19 <MJR_>	100 by 2014...but the market knows best I guess
Mar 21 12:11:24 <MJR_>	hehehe
Mar 21 12:11:36 <splnkr>	i don't see how there's any ceiling
Mar 21 12:11:37 <MJR_>	to be honest...I don't have a lot of coin
Mar 21 12:11:37 <ThickAsThieves>	100 by May
Mar 21 12:11:55 <MJR_>	it's all tied up in bonds and stocks and options
Mar 21 12:12:19 <MJR_>	and I don't want to unwind those positions...but and hold strategy
Mar 21 12:12:23 <MJR_>	buy*
Mar 21 12:12:30 <smickles>	well, if peeps in the eu really are getting spooked and buying coins, when will the spooing end
Mar 21 12:12:40 <splnkr>	the ceiling is total monetary value in the global economy divided by 21 million
Mar 21 12:12:45 <splnkr>	that's a lot more than 100
Mar 21 12:12:48 <MJR_>	yes
Mar 21 12:12:48 <smickles>	butt and hold is my strategy too :D
Mar 21 12:12:53 <MJR_>	hehehe
Mar 21 12:13:13 <smickles>	splnkr: that's a pipedream tho
Mar 21 12:13:15 <MJR_>	technically...the ceiling is all the goods and services on earth
Mar 21 12:13:30 <MJR_>	however you choose to denominate that
Mar 21 12:13:54 <smickles>	MJR_: you're not accounting for the fact that people can lend money
Mar 21 12:13:59 <smickles>	or create derivitives
Mar 21 12:14:10 <smickles>	(or are those services)
Mar 21 12:14:26 <MJR_>	well...that is not real...I was just talking to someone about this yesterday
Mar 21 12:14:44 <MJR_>	what I love about options on mpex
Mar 21 12:14:46 <smickles>	how's it not real?
Mar 21 12:15:04 <MJR_>	what is my potential loss when selling a call?
Mar 21 12:15:17 <MJR_>	most people would say infinite
Mar 21 12:15:28 <MJR_>	but that is only one way to look at it
Mar 21 12:15:39 <MJR_>	the other way is one bitcoin
Mar 21 12:15:58 <MJR_>	I can only lose one bitcoin because its a contract to buy one bitcoin
Mar 21 12:16:19 <MJR_>	so...viewing "money" as assets
Mar 21 12:16:36 <smickles>	but money is more complicated than just assets
Mar 21 12:16:37 <MJR_>	cuts through the fog of derivatives and lending
Mar 21 12:16:54 <splnkr>	for the sake of argument and simple math let's value the global economy at $21 trillion
Mar 21 12:16:57 <MJR_>	if I say a barrel of oil
Mar 21 12:17:14 <splnkr>	that would put the theoretical ceiling at $1,000,000 USD / BTC
Mar 21 12:17:16 <splnkr>	lol
Mar 21 12:17:18 <MJR_>	what is the global economy so were clear
Mar 21 12:17:55 <splnkr>	it's outside the scope of this discussion i think
Mar 21 12:17:57 <smickles>	if i lend 1 btc to a person with good enough credit in the community, i can treat the owenership of that loan as money (about equal to 1 btc)
Mar 21 12:17:58 <splnkr>	just ballparking
Mar 21 12:18:16 <MJR_>	well...maybe
Mar 21 12:18:25 <MJR_>	fractional reserve style...
Mar 21 12:18:39 <smickles>	not fractional reserve tho
Mar 21 12:18:39 <splnkr>	i mean that's if every fiat currency goes poof and everyone adopts BTC
Mar 21 12:18:47 <MJR_>	but if you view the global economy as all the stuff and hours in the world
Mar 21 12:18:52 <smickles>	i'm not lending out others deposits
Mar 21 12:18:59 <splnkr>	who's doing fractional reserve bitcoin lending?
Mar 21 12:19:00 <splnkr>	lol
Mar 21 12:19:05 <splnkr>	now would be a good time to get started
Mar 21 12:19:06 <MJR_>	nobody I know of
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Mar 21 12:19:23 <MJR_>	doubt people would take too kindly to that
Mar 21 12:19:33 <splnkr>	i certainly wouldn't
Mar 21 12:19:38 <MJR_>	me neither
Mar 21 12:19:53 <MJR_>	the way to do that is with certificates of deposit
Mar 21 12:19:55 <smickles>	you can do lending and create more money w/o doing fractional reserve. so there is more money than goods and services
Mar 21 12:20:06 <smickles>	that was my point
Mar 21 12:20:10 <MJR_>	well...
Mar 21 12:20:19 <MJR_>	in a sense I suppose
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Mar 21 12:20:34 <MJR_>	but lets say I lend u 100 BTC
Mar 21 12:20:43 <MJR_>	but now I want to buy something
Mar 21 12:20:59 <MJR_>	well double entry accounting says I have a receivable
Mar 21 12:21:01 <MJR_>	an asset
Mar 21 12:21:12 <MJR_>	you have a liability
Mar 21 12:21:19 <splnkr>	all that's much more complicated, i just think anyone saying there's a hard ceiling for USD/BTC in the double or even triple digits is BSing
Mar 21 12:21:40 <MJR_>	there isn't, my point is it's high time to remember what money is
Mar 21 12:21:55 <MJR_>	money is what you can buy with it
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Mar 21 12:22:05 <MJR_>	an abstraction
Mar 21 12:22:28 <MJR_>	the value of currency can fluctuate
Mar 21 12:22:33 <MJR_>	but money is money
Mar 21 12:22:42 <MJR_>	stuff and time
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Mar 21 12:23:16 <MJR_>	</rant>
Mar 21 12:24:11 <smickles>	buy my options :D
Mar 21 12:24:47 <smickles>	lolwut
Mar 21 12:25:04 <smickles>	$depth o.btcusd.c49n
Mar 21 12:25:05 <mpexbot>	smickles: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Mar 21 12:25:30 <smickles>	$depth o.btcusd.c490n
Mar 21 12:25:31 <mpexbot>	smickles: Bids: ['1000 @ 0.29444229']
Mar 21 12:25:32 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.4490245', '9 @ 5.0']
Mar 21 12:25:44 <smickles>	at fuppin' 5btc
Mar 21 12:25:46 <smickles>	srsly
Mar 21 12:25:56 <smickles>	;;calc 49/(1-5)
Mar 21 12:25:56 <gribble>	-12.25
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Mar 21 12:31:45 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Mar 21 12:31:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.50003, Best ask: 70.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 70.91209, 24 hour volume: 93150.81477258, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 71.25000, 24 hour vwap: 66.30872
Mar 21 12:32:18 <MJR_>	;;calc (66.30-41)/66.30
Mar 21 12:32:18 <gribble>	0.381598793363
Mar 21 12:33:00 <MJR_>	it can never be worth more than 1 right?
Mar 21 12:33:01 <smickles>	MJR_: mpex uses bc,24hprc, if that's what you were calcin'
Mar 21 12:33:09 <MJR_>	ah yes
Mar 21 12:33:40 <smickles>	;;calc 75/.01
Mar 21 12:33:40 <gribble>	7500
Mar 21 12:33:47 <MJR_>	gribble can give that? or do I have to use mpexbot?
Mar 21 12:33:56 <smickles>	;;calc 49/.01
Mar 21 12:33:56 <gribble>	4900
Mar 21 12:34:05 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 21 12:34:08 <gribble>	66.21
Mar 21 12:34:29 <MJR_>	;;calc (66.21-41)/66.21
Mar 21 12:34:30 <gribble>	0.380758193626
Mar 21 12:34:41 <MJR_>	0_o
Mar 21 12:34:48 <smickles>	MJR_: a c490n would break even at a price of 4900usd/btc if sold at ~ 1
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Mar 21 12:35:04 <MJR_>	ah
Mar 21 12:35:12 <smickles>	so 5 is mind melting
Mar 21 12:35:18 <MJR_>	yes lol
Mar 21 12:35:45 <MJR_>	these 41 calls have been good to me
Mar 21 12:36:02 <smickles>	the c490n is a 'fat finger' play
Mar 21 12:36:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 21 12:36:05 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227191 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 616 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 18 hours, 17 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6427426.4485 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.58858
Mar 21 12:36:08 <MJR_>	though im kicking myself for selling half of mine at 2x my price
Mar 21 12:36:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 21 12:36:14 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6427426.4485 based on data since last change | 7111506.45763 based on data for last three days
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Mar 21 12:36:25 <smickles>	MJR_: you couldn't've known
Mar 21 12:36:31 <smickles>	i took profits too
Mar 21 12:36:47 <smickles>	and then it just kept going up
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Mar 21 12:37:28 <smickles>	so hopefully span and cyprus get a full scale bitcoin economy going. that would be lovely
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Mar 21 12:37:43 <MJR_>	yes!
Mar 21 12:38:01 <MJR_>	I figured that now im playing with the houses money
Mar 21 12:38:12 <MJR_>	as this half is profit
Mar 21 12:38:35 <MJR_>	someone at work wanted to short
Mar 21 12:38:43 <smickles>	heh, that's a good idea which the casino's made up to get your money back in their hands
Mar 21 12:38:55 <MJR_>	yeah
Mar 21 12:38:59 <pgp2>	btw regarding conversation of cieling on BTC, you need to consider aggregate asset values, not annual GDP...  Take a look at http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071029233836AAnbTnr
Mar 21 12:40:56 <MJR_>	yes I agree
Mar 21 12:41:08 <MJR_>	but it is hard to calculate on that scale
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Mar 21 12:41:58 <MJR_>	valuation is one of the hardest things and one of the most important things
Mar 21 12:42:10 <MJR_>	I think
Mar 21 12:42:25 <smickles>	$depth o.btcusd.c310t
Mar 21 12:42:26 <MJR_>	it's subjective at the end of the day
Mar 21 12:42:26 <mpexbot>	smickles: Bids: ['1000 @ 0.53338816', '2 @ 0.42751695']
Mar 21 12:42:27 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['1 @ 0.63235001', '1000 @ 0.64887279']
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Mar 21 12:42:49 <smickles>	;;calc 36/(1-.63)
Mar 21 12:42:49 <gribble>	97.2972972973
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Mar 21 12:46:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 210 @ 0.00072 = 0.1512 BTC [-]
Mar 21 12:46:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17501 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 12:46:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.175 = 0.35 BTC [-]
Mar 21 12:46:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17002 BTC [-]
Mar 21 12:46:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-]
Mar 21 12:47:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.16 = 0.32 BTC [-]
Mar 21 12:47:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Mar 21 12:47:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC [-]
Mar 21 12:47:26 <MJR_>	what is cognitive?
Mar 21 12:47:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85896 BTC [+]
Mar 21 12:47:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85897 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 12:48:49 <smickles>	MJR_: "Cognitive Mining is a well established and trusted entity which was previously traded on GLBSE, but only because of the closure is moving here. Cognitive will significantly increase BTC-TC revenue via trade fees, and increase site exposure and trust because a trusted entity is trusting you!"
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Mar 21 12:49:08 <smickles>	isn't it funny that they tell you they are trusted?
Mar 21 12:49:35 <kakobrekla>	its terrible is what it is.
Mar 21 12:49:45 <MJR_>	lol
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Mar 21 12:50:14 <MJR_>	that is ugly from purely a grammar and style sense
Mar 21 12:50:38 <MJR_>	but they should just skip ahead to the tautology club
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Mar 21 12:51:04 <kakobrekla>	that guy is just a kid
Mar 21 12:51:29 <kakobrekla>	in years he will look back at this and be embarassed
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Mar 21 12:51:33 <smickles>	best argument for why bitcoin is a game
Mar 21 12:51:56 <smickles>	the kids involved now will be too embarassed in a few years
Mar 21 12:52:16 <deadweasel>	unless they held onto a pile of btc
Mar 21 12:52:20 <smickles>	"naw, that wasn't real money, that was a game. Like warhammere 40k"
Mar 21 12:53:01 <kakobrekla>	some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night
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Mar 21 12:53:21 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 21 12:53:37 <MJR_>	you know what's awesome?
Mar 21 12:53:55 <MJR_>	when your hedge to the main position does great too
Mar 21 12:53:58 <smickles>	then next line ?
Mar 21 12:54:14 <MJR_>	though its an imperfect hedge
Mar 21 12:54:54 <MJR_>	I hedge my portfolio partially with lending dollars on bitfinex
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Mar 21 12:57:20 <smickles>	ok, well, the next line in the sand is 84
Mar 21 12:58:45 <kakobrekla>	yeah speaking of, 100$ will make me look ridiculus
Mar 21 12:58:49 <kakobrekla>	if hit soon
Mar 21 12:59:43 <deadweasel>	at this rate, very soon
Mar 21 13:00:38 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/316/bitcoin-to-trade-at-100-usd-by-the/
Mar 21 13:00:47 <kakobrekla>	not much game??
Mar 21 13:01:07 <pgp2>	time between blocks now at 6.46 min....  damn - mining is about to become really hard...
Mar 21 13:01:13 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 21 13:01:16 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227193 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 614 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 18 hours, 4 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6427539.17082 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.5909
Mar 21 13:01:26 <pgp2>	32%
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Mar 21 13:01:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4102 = 4.102 BTC
Mar 21 13:01:57 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 21 13:01:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.00055, Best ask: 72.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00945, Last trade: 72.01000, 24 hour volume: 93554.33064456, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 72.35000, 24 hour vwap: 66.47931
Mar 21 13:04:05 <Uglux>	73
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Mar 21 13:04:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.85897 = 1.7179 BTC [+]
Mar 21 13:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4600001 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Mar 21 13:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:06:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4102 = 1.2306 BTC
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Mar 21 13:08:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00425 = 0.425 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:09:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0042 = 0.42 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:09:19 <splnkr>	latest mtgox high 74.9
Mar 21 13:09:33 *	splnkr wonders if that's the only thing that's high
Mar 21 13:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 75 @ 0.00496604 = 0.3725 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:10:07 <ThickAsThieves>	holy moly
Mar 21 13:10:42 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 21 13:10:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.43201, Best ask: 74.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.26799, Last trade: 74.43201, 24 hour volume: 94640.92768269, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 66.64683
Mar 21 13:11:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.108999 BTC [+]
Mar 21 13:11:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14003 BTC [+]
Mar 21 13:11:50 <MJR_>	;;calc 5500 * 0.00496604
Mar 21 13:11:51 <gribble>	27.31322
Mar 21 13:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 4 @ 0.06357617 = 0.2543 BTC
Mar 21 13:12:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14002 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:12:31 <MJR_>	;;calc 27.31322 * 74.90
Mar 21 13:12:31 <gribble>	2045.760178
Mar 21 13:12:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.14 = 1.12 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:13:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.12205 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:14:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.0042 = 0.0462 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:15:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00450321 = 0.6755 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:15:34 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 13:15:35 <gribble>	0.064766 seconds
Mar 21 13:15:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 21 13:15:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.01505, Best ask: 74.29875, Bid-ask spread: 0.28370, Last trade: 74.01505, 24 hour volume: 95240.44718836, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 66.69937
Mar 21 13:16:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 80
Mar 21 13:16:02 <gribble>	There are currently 7596.5366 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 589106.947162 USD in total. | Data vintage: 119.0183 seconds
Mar 21 13:16:06 <ThickAsThieves>	whoa
Mar 21 13:16:17 <pizzaman1337>	here we come $100
Mar 21 13:16:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 85
Mar 21 13:16:26 <gribble>	There are currently 10524.979 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 822437.142286 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.3512 seconds
Mar 21 13:16:32 <ThickAsThieves>	yoooo
Mar 21 13:16:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.003 = 0.06 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:16:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 89.99
Mar 21 13:16:42 <gribble>	There are currently 11537.613 bitcoins offered at or under 89.99 USD, worth 910459.618314 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.3556 seconds
Mar 21 13:16:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99.99
Mar 21 13:16:55 <gribble>	There are currently 19291.337 bitcoins offered at or under 99.99 USD, worth 1669256.72911 USD in total. | Data vintage: 30.9742 seconds
Mar 21 13:17:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 3 @ 0.06156249 = 0.1847 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:17:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.003 = 0.15 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:18:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:19:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 75 @ 0.003 = 0.225 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 125 @ 0.00450321 = 0.5629 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:19:42 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 13:19:43 <gribble>	1.706159 seconds
Mar 21 13:20:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0099 = 0.0198 BTC [+]
Mar 21 13:20:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 99 @ 0.003 = 0.297 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:20:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 500 @ 0.003 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:20:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 500 @ 0.003 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.44002 = 2.6401 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:21:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 900 @ 0.003 = 2.7 BTC [-]
Mar 21 13:21:53 <pizzaman1337>	bitcoincharts died for me :(
Mar 21 13:22:09 <pizzaman1337>	nvm, back
Mar 21 13:22:11 <mod6>	yeah, its been awol for a hot minute
Mar 21 13:22:19 <topace>	fuck
Mar 21 13:22:23 <MJR_>	I wish they showed how many orders they do per day
Mar 21 13:22:26 <topace>	vtx price was waaaaaaaaay off
Mar 21 13:23:28 <MJR_>	would be a better measure of liquidity
Mar 21 13:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.06211269 = 0.1242 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 13:30:09 <ThickAsThieves>	topace, the shares were undersold at .003?
Mar 21 13:31:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06263959 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 13:33:57 <topace>	yea the rate calculuation fucked up
Mar 21 13:33:58 <topace>	fixing now
Mar 21 13:34:01 <topace>	brefore brign it back up
Mar 21 13:34:26 <ThickAsThieves>	ouch, are you gonna reverse thos etrades?
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Mar 21 13:36:05 <ThickAsThieves>	poor sdice...  http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=d602ad09f967f11d50fcb2f98df8d001a812ce4965d6e69340f8961aeb32f27c
Mar 21 13:36:09 <kakobrekla>	so avalon is 7500$ today
Mar 21 13:36:15 <kakobrekla>	not bad
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Mar 21 13:36:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00072255 = 5.5636 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 13:39:36 <unbalanced>	Won't a big sdice win like that just encourage more desperate rubes to flush their bitcoins away?
Mar 21 13:39:49 <MJR_>	yep
Mar 21 13:39:51 <MJR_>	:)
Mar 21 13:40:03 <MJR_>	👍
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Mar 21 13:45:49 <MJR_>	that guy looked like an idiot on Bloomberg video
Mar 21 13:49:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 21 13:49:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.80000, Best ask: 72.80001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 72.80000, 24 hour volume: 96873.60013063, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 67.02669
Mar 21 13:49:47 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 13:49:47 <gribble>	0 seconds
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Mar 21 13:58:05 <MJR_>	strangely, I think we are going to see a bunch of new money coming in
Mar 21 13:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 21 13:58:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.80003, Best ask: 73.60691, Bid-ask spread: 0.80688, Last trade: 73.60691, 24 hour volume: 97393.33155240, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 67.08461
Mar 21 13:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	bejesus
Mar 21 13:58:35 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 21 13:58:46 <MJR_>	can't turn your head without it jumping
Mar 21 13:59:13 <topace>	fixified
Mar 21 13:59:13 <mod6>	:D
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Mar 21 14:01:25 <kakobrekla>	remember i made this in feb http://shrani.si/f/3l/OQ/2JCCgxKS/critpred3.png
Mar 21 14:01:31 <kakobrekla>	and it was looking optimistic or somthing
Mar 21 14:01:38 <kakobrekla>	we are way past the scale of the chart.
Mar 21 14:01:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 130 @ 0.3899 = 50.687 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:02:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3899 = 7.798 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:02:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3899 = 3.1192 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla indeed.
Mar 21 14:03:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00072255 = 1.0477 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1167 @ 0.00072659 = 0.8479 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:03:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6383 @ 0.00073058 = 4.6633 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:03:29 <MJR_>	nice!
Mar 21 14:04:05 <MJR_>	;;calc 2500 *  0.00073058
Mar 21 14:04:06 <gribble>	1.82645
Mar 21 14:04:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 174 @ 0.3899 = 67.8426 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:04:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 725 @ 0.00450321 = 3.2648 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:05:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 675 @ 0.0045032 = 3.0397 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:05:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8600 @ 0.0043113 = 37.0772 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	i had no idea cavirtex is actually making money.
Mar 21 14:06:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.3899 = 4.6788 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:06:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3899 = 3.899 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:06:39 <ThickAsThieves>	they arent
Mar 21 14:06:45 <ThickAsThieves>	they have revenue
Mar 21 14:06:47 <ThickAsThieves>	no profit
Mar 21 14:07:14 <mircea_popescu>	hum
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Mar 21 14:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	raising 5k btc for 10% so a 50k btc float predicated on 37k monthly trade of which they charge what, 1% ? 0.5% ?
Mar 21 14:07:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3899 = 1.9495 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:08:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3899 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock vtx
Mar 21 14:08:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.38990000 / 0.4020257 / 0.45780000 (498 shares, 200.20880000 BTC), 7D: 0.38990000 / 0.40701368 / 0.46140000 (570 shares, 231.99780000 BTC), 30D: 0.38990000 / 0.40701368 / 0.46140000 (570 shares, 231.99780000 BTC)
Mar 21 14:10:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06458438 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:11:03 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.06458438)
Mar 21 14:11:04 <gribble>	80.1782634333
Mar 21 14:11:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3899 = 1.1697 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:11:21 <ColdHardMetal>	cavirtex makes 3% on both sides of a trade. It's kind of gross.
Mar 21 14:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	can't even argue with him anymore.
Mar 21 14:11:30 <unbalanced>	kakobrekla: nice charts, what assumptions did you use? I'm still foggy on difficulty driving price.
Mar 21 14:11:33 <mircea_popescu>	ColdHardMetal what, seriously ?
Mar 21 14:11:34 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 21 14:11:36 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 55.42906834 high: 57.60574549 low: 51.19305144 volume: 14257 btc: 1202.67534357 30 day: no data
Mar 21 14:11:38 <ColdHardMetal>	yep.
Mar 21 14:11:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3899 = 3.899 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 37 * 6%
Mar 21 14:11:51 <gribble>	Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
Mar 21 14:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 37 * .06
Mar 21 14:11:56 <gribble>	2.22
Mar 21 14:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	2k a month isn't too bad.
Mar 21 14:12:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3899 = 7.798 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	if they use the ipo funding to actually get registered with the whatever proper authorities / get a banking partner this may work out well for everyone.
Mar 21 14:12:37 <kakobrekla>	unbalanced that is one of the first results, after 30days runtime, the fit was better, input data is price per difficulty
Mar 21 14:12:43 <unbalanced>	That seems to be the plan
Mar 21 14:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced o, they said so ? that;'s constructive then.
Mar 21 14:13:14 <ColdHardMetal>	Canadian securities regs aren't far off SEC. I'd be surprised if they aren't in violationalready tbh.
Mar 21 14:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2943 @ 0.0043113 = 12.6882 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:13:20 <unbalanced>	They're pretty far along that as far as payment processing / licensing
Mar 21 14:13:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 12023 @ 0.004101 = 49.3063 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8400 @ 0.004 = 33.6 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:13:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3899 = 3.899 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:14:09 <unbalanced>	VTX "prospectus": https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=7
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Mar 21 14:14:44 <unbalanced>	Disclosure: I want to own some but will have to wait.
Mar 21 14:14:47 <mircea_popescu>	bah pdf
Mar 21 14:14:51 <ThickAsThieves>	no dividends?
Mar 21 14:14:55 <unbalanced>	Correct
Mar 21 14:15:03 <unbalanced>	AFAICT
Mar 21 14:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	growing rapidly. VirtEx is experiencing explosive growth shown by: Revenue increasing 146% in the last 2 months (Jan/Feb 2013)
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Mar 21 14:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	conveniently not pointing out this is fiat growth and thus irrelevant, right ?
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Mar 21 14:16:07 <ThickAsThieves>	i couldnt find a reason to buy in
Mar 21 14:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	ColdHardMetal Greater than 2500 0.50%. I dunno how defensible that 3% is given that 100 per monht...
Mar 21 14:16:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3898 = 9.745 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:17:02 <ThickAsThieves>	also their website is missing the Buy $1m button
Mar 21 14:17:28 <ThickAsThieves>	not to mention it has no Buy Now button at all...
Mar 21 14:17:34 <ColdHardMetal>	I don't think it's defensible at all. However in my case it's easier than having to go through multiple wires and currency conversions to get funds where I need them, so I just suck it up and pay.
Mar 21 14:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	"with opportunity to continue growing rapidly as more Canadians learns about the Bitcoin"
Mar 21 14:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	haha
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Mar 21 14:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	ColdHardMetal if you only need ~100 i'd imagine you're connected enough to handle it otc ?
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Mar 21 14:19:09 <unbalanced>	100BTC per 120d is the threshold to escape 3%
Mar 21 14:19:32 <ColdHardMetal>	Maybe, but speed counts sometimes. I don't really use them often, every 2-3 months. I can use them without having to submit any dox to anyone whcih keeps things simple.
Mar 21 14:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	so basically they have this construct where the havelock fund owns shares and then the participants on havelock own shares in the fund thus eschewing shareholder reporting
Mar 21 14:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	this thing is dangerous.
Mar 21 14:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.441 = 3.087 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.004 = 4 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.004 = 6.4 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	and they have a short fund.
Mar 21 14:20:50 <topace>	mircea_popescu: theres an option to be listed on the official paperwork even if you own the shares through havelock
Mar 21 14:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	interesting stuff anyway.
Mar 21 14:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	topace o there you are. hey, did you announce here and i missed it ?
Mar 21 14:21:45 <topace>	no i ddint really announce it :p
Mar 21 14:21:45 <unbalanced>	They are trying to do this in a way that won't get them shut down. I hope they do well and grow the market.
Mar 21 14:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4034 @ 0.004 = 16.136 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:22:11 <topace>	i figured the announcements should be up to virtex themselves :p
Mar 21 14:22:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3898 = 3.898 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	topace well why not ? hehe nah. you're their ipo manager, you announce.
Mar 21 14:22:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 510 @ 0.3898 = 198.798 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:22:39 <ThickAsThieves>	scamz!
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Mar 21 14:23:31 <unbalanced>	kakobrekla, is that a private algo or something others could play with?
Mar 21 14:23:33 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced yeah, well... interesting device. we still don't have enough on how exactly it'd play out to know.
Mar 21 14:23:54 <mircea_popescu>	(by we i mean my legal doods)
Mar 21 14:24:07 <unbalanced>	where by "others" I mean "me"
Mar 21 14:24:11 <unbalanced>	heh
Mar 21 14:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 21 14:24:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3898 = 1.1694 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:24:32 <unbalanced>	I thought you were supralegal
Mar 21 14:24:33 <kakobrekla>	unbalanced https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141127.0 < - i didnt update the thread since there was no interest but i can give you the last data i have
Mar 21 14:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced i think so. sometimes people go "no clue" tho.
Mar 21 14:25:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.44001 = 2.2001 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:25:17 <unbalanced>	kako you are blowing my mind
Mar 21 14:25:28 <kakobrekla>	:p
Mar 21 14:25:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 250 @ 0.09 = 22.5 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:25:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 40 @ 0.3898 = 15.592 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	topace so what's this song and dance with shares could be more expensive than ipo warning thing ?
Mar 21 14:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	i can't make sense of it.
Mar 21 14:26:48 <ThickAsThieves>	people are flipping the shares
Mar 21 14:26:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate bingoboingo 1 My Rugatu payment agent
Mar 21 14:26:51 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
Mar 21 14:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	bah
Mar 21 14:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Mar 21 14:27:03 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 21 14:27:05 <unbalanced>	I think on past IPOs people bought at the bid/ask and didn't see that there were IPO shares left.
Mar 21 14:27:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 250 @ 0.09 = 22.5 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves nothing wrong with that neh ?
Mar 21 14:27:18 <ThickAsThieves>	not at all
Mar 21 14:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced where are these shares left ? not in the book ?
Mar 21 14:27:32 <ThickAsThieves>	one of my favorite ways to make money :)
Mar 21 14:27:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 75 @ 0.3898 = 29.235 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2a1e8519990917366b20fe81156f46768171939a91c1731376640a70
Mar 21 14:27:45 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans;#bitcoin-dev
Mar 21 14:27:46 <unbalanced>	He's just giving dimwits like me a fighting chance.
Mar 21 14:27:47 <ThickAsThieves>	it seems though,
Mar 21 14:27:53 <ThickAsThieves>	that this method helps the flippers
Mar 21 14:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2a1e8519990917366b20fe81156f46768171939a91c1731376640a70
Mar 21 14:27:56 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 21 14:28:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate bingoboingo 1 My Rugatu payment agent
Mar 21 14:28:01 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bingoboingo has been recorded.
Mar 21 14:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4400001 = 0.88 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:28:04 <kakobrekla>	unbalanced i think this was the last chart i made http://shrani.si/f/36/x3/1yQoSMpP/critticall.png
Mar 21 14:28:19 <kakobrekla>	unbalanced but the evolution did continiue
Mar 21 14:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced i don't get it tho. if there's ipo shares left they're in the book at ipo price. you can't buy past them.
Mar 21 14:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	if they're not in the book then there's not any elft and so... market price
Mar 21 14:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	what am i missing here
Mar 21 14:28:59 *	MJR_ is not currently listening to music.
Mar 21 14:29:17 <ThickAsThieves>	the ipo shares are not on the main havelock page for the asset
Mar 21 14:29:24 <MJR_>	lies
Mar 21 14:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Mar 21 14:29:29 <unbalanced>	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=VTX
Mar 21 14:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	why not ?!
Mar 21 14:29:39 <unbalanced>	The IPO is a separate buy page
Mar 21 14:29:49 <ThickAsThieves>	so they can trick noobs obv
Mar 21 14:30:09 <unbalanced>	kakobrekla, is the scale on the chart in thousands on the left?
Mar 21 14:30:23 <kakobrekla>	1000 = 10
Mar 21 14:30:34 <kakobrekla>	the first top is first bubble we had taht went to 30
Mar 21 14:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	jesus.
Mar 21 14:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	topace why ?!
Mar 21 14:30:39 <kakobrekla>	but this is per difficulty
Mar 21 14:30:45 <kakobrekla>	so its not showing 30 as top
Mar 21 14:31:04 <ThickAsThieves>	whats funnier is that the flippers should be posting trickier asks
Mar 21 14:31:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3851 = 1.1553 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:31:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 21 14:31:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.21001, Best ask: 73.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18999, Last trade: 73.40000, 24 hour volume: 97553.15321209, 24 hour low: 62.50130, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 67.23243
Mar 21 14:31:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 14:31:53 <gribble>	0.397807 seconds
Mar 21 14:31:54 <topace>	why is it not just on the open market?
Mar 21 14:32:01 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Mar 21 14:32:06 <topace>	becuase the system can do things like limit the number of shares per user
Mar 21 14:32:09 <topace>	when its on the IPO
Mar 21 14:32:12 <topace>	vs the open market
Mar 21 14:32:15 <ThickAsThieves>	why?
Mar 21 14:32:21 <topace>	and also, the ipo price changes
Mar 21 14:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	limit the shares per user ?! why the heck ?
Mar 21 14:32:26 <topace>	to match $CAD valuation
Mar 21 14:32:44 <ThickAsThieves>	canadian finance is alien
Mar 21 14:32:45 <topace>	mircea_popescu: VTX doesnt limit it
Mar 21 14:32:51 <topace>	but its possible for hte systme to
Mar 21 14:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	topace i would say this is kludge. keep a single book rather than fragment it.
Mar 21 14:33:04 <topace>	when i luanched the sdice passthru i limited it in the public offerings
Mar 21 14:33:13 <topace>	meh
Mar 21 14:33:16 <ThickAsThieves>	why limits thi?
Mar 21 14:33:17 <ThickAsThieves>	tho
Mar 21 14:33:19 <topace>	i cant argue this now, im late
Mar 21 14:33:23 <topace>	im suppose dto leave half an hour ago
Mar 21 14:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	so talk to you later
Mar 21 14:33:34 <topace>	back on monday
Mar 21 14:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	assets never sleeps and never goes anywhere
Mar 21 14:33:39 <MJR_>	:)
Mar 21 14:33:53 <MJR_>	Wall Street 2: Money never sleeps
Mar 21 14:34:02 <ThickAsThieves>	i think i get about 30% less sleep now that i bitcoin
Mar 21 14:34:02 <smickles>	is it just me, or satoshidice.com borked
Mar 21 14:34:04 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ ya but here it sleeps less.
Mar 21 14:34:08 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 21 14:34:19 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile oldies but rather goldies : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/viata-grea-a-blogerului-incepator/
Mar 21 14:34:20 <MJR_>	well...
Mar 21 14:34:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.3851 = 38.51 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:34:42 <MJR_>	s.dice has great prospects I think
Mar 21 14:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i see it
Mar 21 14:35:08 <smickles>	it only partially loads for me, heavy traffic maybe?
Mar 21 14:35:12 <MJR_>	cuz of great market share
Mar 21 14:35:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3851 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:35:27 <MJR_>	ah im an idiot
Mar 21 14:35:39 *	MJR_ thought you meant the company smickles 
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Mar 21 14:36:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3851 = 3.851 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	so bfl is fading into shoutbox obscurity
Mar 21 14:38:26 <mod6>	MJR_: blue horseshoe loves Anacott Steel
Mar 21 14:38:33 <MJR_>	mod6: lol
Mar 21 14:38:43 <mod6>	;)
Mar 21 14:38:58 <MJR_>	I was trading quotes with coworkers yesterday
Mar 21 14:40:09 <MJR_>	The Notorious BIG said it best: "Either you're slingin' crack-rock, or you've got a wicked jump-shot." Nobody wants to work for it anymore. There's no honor in taking that after school job at Mickey Dee's, honor's in the dollar, kid. So I went the white boy way of slinging crack-rock: I became a stock broker.
Mar 21 14:40:12 <MJR_>	my fave
Mar 21 14:40:32 <mod6>	haha
Mar 21 14:40:49 <MJR_>	boiler room is a classic
Mar 21 14:42:31 <mod6>	oh yeah. thats a good one too.
Mar 21 14:43:37 *	unbalanced is now known as unbalanced_backt
Mar 21 14:43:41 <MJR_>	They say money can't buy happiness? Look at the fucking smile on my face. Ear to ear, baby.
Mar 21 14:44:00 <MJR_>	Ben affleks finest work was that scene I think
Mar 21 14:44:18 <mod6>	lol yeah!
Mar 21 14:44:19 <unbalanced_backt>	Come on... not Reindeer Games?
Mar 21 14:44:28 <MJR_>	hahaha
Mar 21 14:44:37 <unbalanced_backt>	I bet he wishes he could erase that.
Mar 21 14:44:40 <unbalanced_backt>	frak
Mar 21 14:44:42 <MJR_>	he pulls off douche so easily
Mar 21 14:44:58 <mod6>	what about gilly or whatever the fuck
Mar 21 14:45:07 <mod6>	he probably wants to delete that one
Mar 21 14:45:07 *	unbalanced_backt is now known as unbalanced_away
Mar 21 14:45:24 <MJR_>	lol there were a bunch of bad ones...
Mar 21 14:45:24 <unbalanced_away>	Jersey Girl wasn't that bad IIRC
Mar 21 14:45:29 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 21 14:45:57 <MJR_>	that scene was basically a rip off of Alex Baldwin in glengarry glen Ross
Mar 21 14:46:04 <unbalanced_away>	ayite, back to work... good luck all
Mar 21 14:46:11 <mod6>	c-ya
Mar 21 14:46:16 <MJR_>	later
Mar 21 14:46:29 <mod6>	yeah, i've had 5 cups of coffee, btc is > $70 and im /still/ workin like a slave
Mar 21 14:46:37 <mod6>	this is wrong
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Mar 21 14:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	shut up and work it.
Mar 21 14:47:06 <MJR_>	lol, I've never worked harder than when I got involved in bitcoin
Mar 21 14:47:13 <smickles>	mod6: turns out the right move woul've been to maxout my credit cards with cash advances and buy btc a few months ago
Mar 21 14:47:23 <deadweasel>	no shit
Mar 21 14:47:26 <deadweasel>	hindsight
Mar 21 14:47:30 <MJR_>	yeah
Mar 21 14:47:34 <mod6>	smickles: its hard not to see how that would have paid off.
Mar 21 14:47:40 <MJR_>	you could also have bankrupted
Mar 21 14:47:44 <deadweasel>	bingo!
Mar 21 14:47:48 <deadweasel>	you never know
Mar 21 14:47:50 <deadweasel>	still could be
Mar 21 14:47:52 <mod6>	yeah ^^^
Mar 21 14:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	Total 299084. this month mpoe bot is going over 300k contracts traded
Mar 21 14:47:52 <MJR_>	yep
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Mar 21 14:47:54 <smickles>	;;calc (40000/2)*73
Mar 21 14:47:54 <gribble>	1460000
Mar 21 14:47:58 <smickles>	yup
Mar 21 14:47:59 <deadweasel>	unless you got your capital out already
Mar 21 14:48:03 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: nice!
Mar 21 14:48:22 <MJR_>	im married to my sdice position
Mar 21 14:48:30 <mod6>	wow > 300k!
Mar 21 14:48:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 115 @ 0.3898 = 44.827 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:48:37 <mod6>	O.O
Mar 21 14:49:16 <mircea_popescu>	i know right ?!
Mar 21 14:49:20 <mod6>	*nod*
Mar 21 14:49:24 <mod6>	thats incredible.
Mar 21 14:49:33 <mod6>	i love it.
Mar 21 14:49:43 <mod6>	mpex > *
Mar 21 14:49:45 <ThickAsThieves>	so whats the dividend projection?
Mar 21 14:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	prev record was january, 190k
Mar 21 14:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves there's never been a projection on s.mpoe divs
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Mar 21 14:50:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.0099 = 0.495 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:50:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i meant informally
Mar 21 14:50:31 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
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Mar 21 14:50:34 <error4733>	over 9000
Mar 21 14:50:35 <ThickAsThieves>	napkin math or such
Mar 21 14:50:44 <smickles>	ya know, it's possible to calc it if you track what the bot is buying/selling for and the trade data
Mar 21 14:51:01 <smickles>	revenue, anyway
Mar 21 14:51:06 <mircea_popescu>	anywhere between -299k btc and + 299k btc fo sho
Mar 21 14:51:33 <ThickAsThieves>	is that a forward-looking statement?
Mar 21 14:51:36 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 21 14:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol not rly.
Mar 21 14:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.43000001 = 0.86 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	mathematica necesitatis
Mar 21 14:52:08 <smickles>	well, damn, ofc i lost MY less than 1 bet
Mar 21 14:52:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol copycaty
Mar 21 14:52:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.416 = 2.08 BTC [-]
Mar 21 14:53:06 <tiberiusiv>	whats the forwrad looking statement for bbet
Mar 21 14:53:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.3898 = 5.4572 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:53:32 <smickles>	ya know, i'd be selling satoshi dice dice at satoshidicedice.com right now if evoorhees had given me anything more than an informal statement that he wouldn't sue me for using the brand
Mar 21 14:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	> 20 in fees and > 10 btc in confiscations from wannabe scalpers that failed at it.
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Mar 21 14:53:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 38 @ 0.3898 = 14.8124 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:54:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3898 = 0.7796 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:54:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3898 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what are you so worried about anyway
Mar 21 14:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	if he gets pissy you share revenue
Mar 21 14:54:56 <deadweasel>	I placed some bets, but I forgot on what.  I guess I could scrape your site for the few of my btc addy.
Mar 21 14:55:13 <deadweasel>	to find it...  damn drunken bets.
Mar 21 14:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	just put your addy into the searchbox deadweasel
Mar 21 14:55:26 <MJR_>	what do you mean selling sdice on satoshidice.com?
Mar 21 14:55:29 <deadweasel>	lol, thx
Mar 21 14:55:42 <smickles>	MJR_: satoshidicedice.com
Mar 21 14:55:48 <MJR_>	lol cool
Mar 21 14:56:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 256 @ 0.3898 = 99.7888 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:56:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 76 @ 0.3898 = 29.6248 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:56:29 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i'm weary about entering into a business with a guy who won't put anything in writing ever
Mar 21 14:56:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.3898 = 38.98 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:56:43 <MJR_>	the prospectus?
Mar 21 14:57:02 <smickles>	MJR_: no, i mean just in the dice situation
Mar 21 14:57:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3898 = 0.7796 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:57:46 <smickles>	i was going to have dice manufacured and sell them and he said it was ok, and that if they looked good he'd advertise them. but would not have any form of that deal in writing
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Mar 21 14:57:59 <mircea_popescu>	smickles so ?
Mar 21 14:58:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3898 = 0.7796 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:58:08 <deadweasel>	fuck me, mp, you made my day.
Mar 21 14:58:13 <deadweasel>	thank god for drunken bets
Mar 21 14:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol. talk to kakobrekla
Mar 21 14:58:30 <mircea_popescu>	tho last time i got the cake :D
Mar 21 14:58:41 <deadweasel>	haha, that's gamblin' for ya
Mar 21 14:58:42 <smickles>	so i don't want to do something that puts me in such a vulnerable position
Mar 21 14:58:49 <deadweasel>	so don't bend over
Mar 21 14:58:56 <deadweasel>	soap on a rope
Mar 21 14:59:00 <MJR_>	I was wondering what the process is for ssd certification?
Mar 21 14:59:12 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu:
Mar 21 14:59:15 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i don't follow. you outlay what, 50 btc for printing dice on his promise that he'll adverise them if he likes them.
Mar 21 14:59:19 <Namworld>	S.DICE is kinda cheap lately
Mar 21 14:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	what's the concept, that instead he sues you ?
Mar 21 14:59:26 <MJR_>	it really is
Mar 21 14:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ you asking me about ssd ?! why ?
Mar 21 14:59:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.3898 = 8.9654 BTC [+]
Mar 21 14:59:59 <MJR_>	slightly smoking dragon
Mar 21 15:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.416 = 2.08 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:00:20 <MJR_>	I think it has become the de facto standard of excellence
Mar 21 15:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Mar 21 15:00:37 <mircea_popescu>	that's hard to get, man.
Mar 21 15:00:38 <MJR_>	so what body grants this status?
Mar 21 15:00:50 <MJR_>	is it nomination? application?
Mar 21 15:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	you gotta pass the bridge o' death
Mar 21 15:01:00 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 21 15:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.07 = 2.14 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:01:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.01 = 4.04 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:01:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 14 @ 1.001 = 14.014 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:01:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3898 = 0.7796 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:01:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: well, he implied that he either wasn't the sole owner of sdice (outside of S.DICE) or that he would soon become only a part owner and that his word would not transfer to these other owners
Mar 21 15:01:28 <MJR_>	seriously, though...I trust a ssd more than Moody's
Mar 21 15:01:52 <smickles>	at the least, i saw it as a bad risk to lay down money on production and then get a c&d
Mar 21 15:02:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3898 = 1.949 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:02:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 21 15:02:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.50001, Best ask: 72.71000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20999, Last trade: 72.19800, 24 hour volume: 97249.46875243, 24 hour low: 63.00000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 67.41164
Mar 21 15:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	smickles unless you lay down A LOT of money it seems maybe exaggerated.
Mar 21 15:02:33 <Diablo-D3>	are you fucking kidding me?
Mar 21 15:02:40 <MJR_>	I don't think that they would care much
Mar 21 15:02:52 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ even if they did care, they'd split revenue somehow
Mar 21 15:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 54 @ 0.3898 = 21.0492 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:03:09 <MJR_>	I doubt it would really matter compared to their revenue
Mar 21 15:03:13 <MJR_>	yeah...
Mar 21 15:03:20 <smickles>	ah well, one of you do it then. i'm on to other things
Mar 21 15:03:23 <MJR_>	worst case revenue split
Mar 21 15:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	maybe the guy with the bitcoin buttons'd be interested
Mar 21 15:03:48 <MJR_>	I understand the reticence smickles
Mar 21 15:04:14 <MJR_>	it right now is possible to lean on the community aspects of the bitcoin world
Mar 21 15:04:27 <Namworld>	Just put a withdrawal request in
Mar 21 15:04:34 <MJR_>	and maybe we shouldn't so much
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Mar 21 15:04:45 <MJR_>	Namworld: love the bonds
Mar 21 15:04:54 <smickles>	i mean, all i was asking for was a 'paper copy' of what he was saying
Mar 21 15:04:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.3898 = 1.5592 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:05:08 <MJR_>	pgp signed?
Mar 21 15:05:11 <smickles>	sure
Mar 21 15:05:16 <Namworld>	aye, too bad I can't sell more.
Mar 21 15:05:22 <MJR_>	you can't?
Mar 21 15:05:31 <Namworld>	I'll be doing buybacks even
Mar 21 15:05:50 <MJR_>	I wish they had an automatic rebuy option
Mar 21 15:06:05 <MJR_>	to reinvest income back in
Mar 21 15:06:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.3898 = 7.0164 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:06:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3898 = 3.1184 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:06:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: this also happened that day that he had trouble authing with gribble, so, given that he wasn't willing to sign anything, i had a small bit of doubt that i was even talking with the real evoorhees
Mar 21 15:06:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3898 = 3.1184 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:07:22 <mod6>	oh i remember that day.
Mar 21 15:07:27 <mod6>	we had faux ev on here
Mar 21 15:07:29 <MJR_>	smickles: well nothing ventured, nothing lost
Mar 21 15:08:12 <smickles>	heh, i ended up using the money to make an extra payment on my wife's car
Mar 21 15:08:14 <mod6>	You miss 100% of the shots you don't take -- Wayne Gretzky
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Mar 21 15:08:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3898 = 3.898 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	ah
Mar 21 15:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	i think the anme is nickserv'd tho
Mar 21 15:09:15 <MJR_>	probably
Mar 21 15:09:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3898 = 1.949 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:09:21 <MJR_>	double auth
Mar 21 15:09:22 <smickles>	as if i know how good a pw he has
Mar 21 15:09:27 <MJR_>	hehehe
Mar 21 15:10:18 <MJR_>	those guys are so busy it doesn't seem like sdice is the main thing on their mind
Mar 21 15:11:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.85896 = 17.1792 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:11:06 <MJR_>	see how many interviews he's doing...almost never really talks about sdice
Mar 21 15:11:10 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 21 15:11:15 <gribble>	67.54
Mar 21 15:11:43 <MJR_>	x-41/x=50
Mar 21 15:11:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.108999 = 0.654 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:11:58 <MJR_>	oops= .50
Mar 21 15:12:06 <smickles>	you sunk my battleship in 1 dimention?
Mar 21 15:12:38 <smickles>	sion -_-
Mar 21 15:12:40 <MJR_>	one dimensional battleship...
Mar 21 15:12:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01001 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:12:55 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice is his dirty little secret that pays for his bitcoin jesus work
Mar 21 15:13:01 <MJR_>	hehehe
Mar 21 15:13:15 <MJR_>	I don't see it as dirty
Mar 21 15:13:27 <ThickAsThieves>	youd ont
Mar 21 15:13:31 <MJR_>	think bitcoin gambling is more honest
Mar 21 15:13:33 <ThickAsThieves>	but gambling is not legal remember
Mar 21 15:13:40 <MJR_>	ah true
Mar 21 15:13:52 <smickles>	;;ticker --high
Mar 21 15:13:52 <gribble>	74.90000
Mar 21 15:14:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.4111 = 2.8777 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:14:02 <MJR_>	I find it hilarious that I can say on average you will always lose and people say ok
Mar 21 15:14:05 <ThickAsThieves>	you cant be a gangster and a preacher at the same time
Mar 21 15:14:15 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: I think you can
Mar 21 15:14:22 <ThickAsThieves>	then i will!
Mar 21 15:14:34 <MJR_>	yes! go forth, be fruitful
Mar 21 15:14:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3898 = 0.7796 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:15:06 <MJR_>	as soon as my business gets our slightly smoking dragon certification
Mar 21 15:15:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3897 = 3.1176 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:15:34 <MJR_>	I joke about that, but seriously...mpex has street cred and trust
Mar 21 15:16:02 <MJR_>	you could rate things (you are implicitly doing that by allowing people to list here)
Mar 21 15:17:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3897 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ list where ?
Mar 21 15:17:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.0007304 = 4.0537 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	and i do rate things, if you follow me here or the girl on the forum you get an idea
Mar 21 15:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.401 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:18:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4001 = 1.2003 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 15:19:52 <Josh_Rossi>	;;bc,prc
Mar 21 15:19:54 <gribble>	Error: "bc,prc" is not a valid command.
Mar 21 15:19:57 <deadweasel>	MJR_: mpex has your trust and cred.
Mar 21 15:20:09 <Josh_Rossi>	yes true
Mar 21 15:20:18 <Josh_Rossi>	but i don't think anyone can say anything bad about it
Mar 21 15:20:22 <deadweasel>	don't mean shit, the whole game could end tomorrow.
Mar 21 15:20:23 <deadweasel>	never forget
Mar 21 15:20:24 <Josh_Rossi>	yeah
Mar 21 15:20:26 <Josh_Rossi>	of course
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Mar 21 15:20:59 <deadweasel>	it's power struggle that has yet to be settled and MPEX could be a casualty.
Mar 21 15:20:59 <Josh_Rossi>	whats that command for prc?
Mar 21 15:21:02 <deadweasel>	or the victor
Mar 21 15:21:11 <deadweasel>	who knows
Mar 21 15:21:17 <Josh_Rossi>	i wouldn't phrase quite so dramatically
Mar 21 15:21:22 <Josh_Rossi>	but yeah
Mar 21 15:21:26 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 21 15:21:31 <gribble>	67.66
Mar 21 15:21:33 <Josh_Rossi>	thanks smickles
Mar 21 15:22:23 <mircea_popescu>	ya well...
Mar 21 15:22:53 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu mpex has "street cred"
Mar 21 15:22:58 <jcpham>	i just read it on the internet
Mar 21 15:23:36 <mircea_popescu>	dun be messin' up ma streets.
Mar 21 15:24:25 <deadweasel>	mp fux you up
Mar 21 15:24:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18799 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:25:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.349 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:25:59 <deadweasel>	Josh_Rossi: I am a drama queen, it's something I've been working on for a few years.  I was raised by women.
Mar 21 15:26:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3897 = 1.9485 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 15:26:33 <Namworld>	Thank you mircea
Mar 21 15:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	yee
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Mar 21 15:27:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 150 @ 0.3897 = 58.455 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:29:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 98 @ 0.3897 = 38.1906 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:29:40 <Josh_Rossi>	deadweasel: lol, no worries
Mar 21 15:30:17 <Josh_Rossi>	i am working on an executive summary and i am going to phrase that scenario as "regulatory force majeur"
Mar 21 15:30:47 <Josh_Rossi>	because i don't think necessarily that it matters what risks you are taking as long as you are aware you are taking them and honest about them
Mar 21 15:31:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2110 @ 0.0007304 = 1.5411 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00072802 = 2.2569 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:31:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1590 @ 0.00071536 = 1.1374 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:33:04 <Josh_Rossi>	its like crosswalks
Mar 21 15:33:16 <Josh_Rossi>	they say you are twice as likely to be hit by a car in a crosswalk vs jaywalking
Mar 21 15:33:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 80 @ 0.3927 = 31.416 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:34:46 <pigeons>	looks like VTX/cavirtex is selling well
Mar 21 15:34:56 <deadweasel>	you think we'll hit $100/BTC this month?
Mar 21 15:36:26 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Mar 21 15:36:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3927 = 19.635 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 15:38:25 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 21 15:38:25 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
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Mar 21 15:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.4001 = 2.4006 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:44:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.3927 = 2.3562 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:44:53 <jurov>	so where are my C1000N, C2000N and C5000Ns?
Mar 21 15:44:55 <Josh_Rossi>	i was thinking about the interesting possibilities for insurance and such
Mar 21 15:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	jurov srsly.
Mar 21 15:45:13 <Josh_Rossi>	lol
Mar 21 15:45:26 <dub>	;;ticker
Mar 21 15:45:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.84382, Best ask: 72.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.35617, Last trade: 72.19999, 24 hour volume: 102630.95374871, 24 hour low: 63.00000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 67.73641
Mar 21 15:45:37 <Josh_Rossi>	i might take some C1000N
Mar 21 15:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	i think ima hold back issuing new lines till opex
Mar 21 15:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	(a week away by now)
Mar 21 15:47:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3987 = 0.7974 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:47:27 <Josh_Rossi>	those should be fun
Mar 21 15:47:45 <Josh_Rossi>	but would i need access to euros?
Mar 21 15:47:57 <toffoo>	opex?
Mar 21 15:48:02 <Josh_Rossi>	i know they are denominated in btc
Mar 21 15:48:36 <Josh_Rossi>	but they are delivarables if i remember correctly?
Mar 21 15:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	option expiration
Mar 21 15:48:51 <Josh_Rossi>	oh lol thought that was something different
Mar 21 15:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	Josh_Rossi huh ?
Mar 21 15:49:10 *	Josh_Rossi is now known as mjr_
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Mar 21 15:49:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3987 = 9.9675 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 15:49:51 <mjr_>	hi
Mar 21 15:49:56 *	mjr_ is now known as Josh_Rossi
Mar 21 15:50:00 <Josh_Rossi>	same person
Mar 21 15:50:14 <jurov>	;;ident Josh_Rossi
Mar 21 15:50:14 <gribble>	Nick 'Josh_Rossi', with hostmask 'Josh_Rossi!Josh_Rossi@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
Mar 21 15:50:22 <jurov>	;;ident mjr_
Mar 21 15:50:23 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Mar 21 15:50:37 *	Josh_Rossi is now known as mjr_
Mar 21 15:50:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00985 = 0.0985 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:50:43 <mjr_>	;;IDENT
Mar 21 15:50:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009843 = 0.0197 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:50:44 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
Mar 21 15:50:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009843 = 0.0984 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:50:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 30 @ 0.009842 = 0.2953 BTC [-]
Mar 21 15:50:58 <mjr_>	i wish i could link both to the same one
Mar 21 15:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4367 @ 0.00073058 = 3.1904 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:51:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00073461 = 5.2157 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7361 @ 0.00073552 = 5.4142 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:51:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8672 @ 0.00073756 = 6.3961 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:51:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.108999 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:51:45 <mjr_>	I figured that I would use my real name if i have to sign things and build up WoT
Mar 21 15:51:56 <mjr_>	but for average chats i prefer this handle
Mar 21 15:53:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is not a good idea.
Mar 21 15:53:15 <mircea_popescu>	splitting your name, nobody will know who the fuck josh is
Mar 21 15:53:18 <jurov>	you can use group with nickserv, i think gribble will pick it up?
Mar 21 15:53:19 <mjr_>	yeah
Mar 21 15:53:23 <mjr_>	it won't
Mar 21 15:53:28 <jcpham>	i'm josh
Mar 21 15:53:33 *	jurov is now known as billg
Mar 21 15:53:35 <jcpham>	there can be only one
Mar 21 15:53:35 <mjr_>	me too
Mar 21 15:53:39 <billg>	now i'm all bsnsss
Mar 21 15:53:40 <deadweasel>	i'm josh
Mar 21 15:53:40 <mjr_>	hehehe
Mar 21 15:53:41 <jcpham>	too bad for you
Mar 21 15:53:45 <jcpham>	i was here first
Mar 21 15:53:48 <mjr_>	true
Mar 21 15:53:54 <mjr_>	but we aren't the only two josh's in the world
Mar 21 15:53:58 <deadweasel>	3
Mar 21 15:53:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3987 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:54:02 <jcpham>	ok you can be josh too i guess
Mar 21 15:54:04 <mod6>	yeah, i'd say stick with mjr_ or whatever. cause i thought Josh_Rossi was a newb
Mar 21 15:54:06 <jcpham>	BFL has a josh
Mar 21 15:54:07 <mjr_>	hehehe
Mar 21 15:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	everyone in their 20s is named josh
Mar 21 15:54:09 <deadweasel>	no, i resign
Mar 21 15:54:10 <mod6>	:)
Mar 21 15:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's like ridiculous by now
Mar 21 15:54:13 <jcpham>	let's make him change his name
Mar 21 15:54:18 <deadweasel>	it was never my name
Mar 21 15:54:25 <mjr_>	but if i were to sign a statement
Mar 21 15:54:29 <deadweasel>	do it!  you must pay him btc for it
Mar 21 15:54:32 <billg>	be cool. call ur joshua
Mar 21 15:54:34 <mjr_>	and i needed it tied to my government identity
Mar 21 15:54:35 <deadweasel>	name him MPEX the minor
Mar 21 15:54:40 <jcpham>	oh joshua gets me moist
Mar 21 15:54:41 <jcpham>	watch out
Mar 21 15:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	watch out he pop ham
Mar 21 15:55:11 <mjr_>	lol also it is pretty easy for me to prove that i'm me
Mar 21 15:55:13 <jcpham>	obviously i'm hiding
Mar 21 15:55:15 <mjr_>	;;ident
Mar 21 15:55:16 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
Mar 21 15:55:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.3987 = 2.7909 BTC [+]
Mar 21 15:55:46 <mjr_>	its weird though, i was inspired to use my real name by mircea_popescu
Mar 21 15:55:55 <deadweasel>	ah, time to clock out.  later all, do great things while I'm gone.
Mar 21 15:55:55 <mjr_>	but it feels to weird always showing that
Mar 21 15:56:23 <mjr_>	also i got pissed off cuz some other guy who got here later than me registered mjr
Mar 21 15:56:47 <smickles>	;;lucky smickles
Mar 21 15:56:48 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=proper%20smickles
Mar 21 15:56:51 <smickles>	:D
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Mar 21 15:57:18 <mjr_>	lol cool nick
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Mar 21 15:57:25 <mjr_>	;;lucky mjr_
Mar 21 15:57:26 <gribble>	http://www.mjrtheatres.com/
Mar 21 15:57:29 <mjr_>	hahaha
Mar 21 15:57:31 <billg>	;;ud smickle
Mar 21 15:57:32 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smickle | Smickle. a clean alternative to the word (shit). aww come on! that's bull smickle. buy smickle mugs & shirts · bullshit shit baloney false unbelievable by Esilentone ...
Mar 21 15:57:37 <jcpham>	smickles IS the best
Mar 21 15:57:40 <jcpham>	by far
Mar 21 15:57:45 <smickles>	think is, i had the nick before the slang existed
Mar 21 15:57:46 <billg>	sry smickles
Mar 21 15:57:49 <smickles>	*thing
Mar 21 15:57:56 <jcpham>	i hope it is a family name
Mar 21 15:57:56 <billg>	no shit
Mar 21 15:58:05 <jcpham>	send the family member that link to ud
Mar 21 15:58:44 <mjr_>	billg: did you mean "no smickles"
Mar 21 15:58:48 <smickles>	hah, guess what the second link is on a google for smickles
Mar 21 15:58:50 <billg>	see the full page. there's 2. and 3. meaning, even more hilarious
Mar 21 15:58:56 <mjr_>	hehehe
Mar 21 15:59:18 <Namworld>	idk why S.DICE is so low. Seems like it's doing pretty well. Month is just a bit lower...
Mar 21 15:59:24 <jcpham>	i like the third link you SEO genius
Mar 21 15:59:38 <Namworld>	I've been buying some at 0.004
Mar 21 15:59:41 <mjr_>	Namworld: I am thinking of doubling down on it
Mar 21 15:59:52 <mjr_>	it just depends...i really love a revenue stream in bitcoins
Mar 21 16:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.001 = 3.003 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:00:08 <mjr_>	hence MPOE and SDICE
Mar 21 16:00:12 <mjr_>	also BTCBOND
Mar 21 16:00:23 <Namworld>	BTCBOND doesn't pay much
Mar 21 16:00:31 <Namworld>	tho
Mar 21 16:00:33 *	billg is now known as jurov
Mar 21 16:00:35 <mjr_>	yeah, but i like to be diversified
Mar 21 16:00:46 <jborkl>	you could make a smickle me elmo that pissed himself
Mar 21 16:00:56 <mjr_>	also i lend money out on bitfinex so i always have dollars too
Mar 21 16:01:11 <mjr_>	so it is a partially hedged position
Mar 21 16:01:19 <jurov>	oh and some lucky guy made 0.69 btc today in coinbr affiliate credit.. wasn't that you?
Mar 21 16:01:20 <mjr_>	but options have treated me the best so far
Mar 21 16:01:27 <mjr_>	that would be me
Mar 21 16:01:34 <mjr_>	thank you so much
Mar 21 16:01:40 <mjr_>	it was a great birthday present
Mar 21 16:01:44 <mjr_>	;)
Mar 21 16:02:02 <mjr_>	i need to start opening more accounts for you
Mar 21 16:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3904 = 1.952 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:02:35 <mjr_>	is there a good link to see an estimate for divs for sdice?
Mar 21 16:02:45 <Namworld>	yes
Mar 21 16:02:45 <dub>	I thought my .67 was pretty good
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Mar 21 16:03:06 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1654405#msg1654405
Mar 21 16:03:12 <tiberiusiv>	if you noticed transactions per day went from 70k to 45k
Mar 21 16:03:12 <Namworld>	You see S.DICE analysis
Mar 21 16:03:19 <tiberiusiv>	and that was from satoshi dice going down
Mar 21 16:03:43 <Namworld>	It was down?
Mar 21 16:04:34 <mjr_>	yeah profits are still good
Mar 21 16:05:02 <mjr_>	i have to stick to my guns, i think the markets are wrong on this one
Mar 21 16:05:35 <mjr_>	though its possible that they just found better investments, higher yield etc...its a pretty thin market really
Mar 21 16:06:22 <Namworld>	hmm
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Mar 21 16:07:10 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Mar 21 16:07:11 <gribble>	1 BTC = 73.25000 U.S. dollars = 56.8269977 Euros
Mar 21 16:07:28 <mjr_>	the only problem is that each share will cost me more in dollars if i choose to put more in now
Mar 21 16:07:43 <mjr_>	i wish i was more fully in the btc economy
Mar 21 16:08:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3904 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:10:20 <jurov>	lol so bratislava region has 7th highest Regional GDP per capita in the EU27? dunno why
Mar 21 16:10:45 <jurov>	more than prague/vienna/stockholm?
Mar 21 16:10:54 <mjr_>	where is bratislava?
Mar 21 16:11:02 <jurov>	you don;t want to know
Mar 21 16:11:09 <jurov>	hostel filmed there
Mar 21 16:11:48 <mjr_>	seems cool
Mar 21 16:11:53 <awkorama>	hostel was actually filmed in czech republic
Mar 21 16:11:56 <mjr_>	don't know enough about sloavakia
Mar 21 16:11:59 <awkorama>	it was set in bratislava
Mar 21 16:12:01 <mjr_>	slovakia
Mar 21 16:13:46 <mjr_>	;;calc 69188.35120444 * 70
Mar 21 16:13:47 <gribble>	4843184.58431
Mar 21 16:13:58 <mjr_>	4 million?
Mar 21 16:14:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.3904 = 39.04 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 16:16:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.109 = 0.327 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 16:19:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 103 @ 0.3862 = 39.7786 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:19:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 33 @ 0.3862 = 12.7446 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:21:22 <smickles>	anyone want to trade some mpexbtc for some mtgoxbtc?
Mar 21 16:21:51 <smickles>	;;sell 5 mpexbtc @ 5 mtgoxbtc
Mar 21 16:21:52 <gribble>	Order id 14165 created.
Mar 21 16:21:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3862 = 3.862 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:22:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3862 = 19.31 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:22:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.3862 = 2.3172 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:23:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750N] 16 @ 0.24771283 = 3.9634 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:24:30 <smickles>	;;calc 16/1.2477
Mar 21 16:24:30 <gribble>	12.8235954156
Mar 21 16:24:42 <smickles>	;;calc 75/1.2477
Mar 21 16:24:42 <gribble>	60.1106035105
Mar 21 16:25:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 51 @ 0.3862 = 19.6962 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:27:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3862 = 1.1586 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:27:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 30 @ 0.3862 = 11.586 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 16:28:51 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: id trust those GDP per capita numbers with a grain of salt
Mar 21 16:29:43 <jurov>	yea. dunno why they publish them then (and moreover, 2 years late)
Mar 21 16:30:21 <tiberiusiv>	mississipi has a gdp per capita of germany or some shit
Mar 21 16:30:30 <tiberiusiv>	but if you visit the 2 its like night and day lol
Mar 21 16:33:27 <jurov>	same with bratislava and vienna
Mar 21 16:33:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 307 @ 0.3862 = 118.5634 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:34:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3862 = 0.7724 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:34:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [+]
Mar 21 16:35:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 487 @ 0.3862 = 188.0794 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 16:38:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 116 @ 0.3862 = 44.7992 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:40:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.3862 = 11.9722 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:40:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00499997 BTC [+]
Mar 21 16:41:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.8589 = 10.3068 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 856 @ 0.00071536 = 0.6123 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:41:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8589 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:42:02 <smickles>	;;rate jborkl 1 sent first :)
Mar 21 16:42:02 <gribble>	Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
Mar 21 16:42:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.004 = 0.008 BTC [+]
Mar 21 16:42:11 <smickles>	;;rate jborkl_ 1 sent first :)
Mar 21 16:42:14 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jborkl_ has been recorded.
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Mar 21 16:45:49 <jborkl>	smickles in the mpexgui, a MTGOX last really small at the top would be cool
Mar 21 16:46:33 <smickles>	jborkl: I'll add that to the list, probably next thing i do since it'd be very easy
Mar 21 16:46:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3862 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:47:37 <jborkl>	ok, cool thanks
Mar 21 16:47:44 <Namworld>	I paid for the MPEx GUI
Mar 21 16:47:59 <Namworld>	I hope we get a windows exe soon
Mar 21 16:48:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 36 @ 0.3862 = 13.9032 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:49:38 <smickles>	Namworld: It's part of the plan, should come after I code in the full mpex command list
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Mar 21 16:50:39 <smickles>	Namworld: also, thanks :)
Mar 21 16:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3862 = 0.7724 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:55:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.3862 = 3.4758 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:55:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3862 = 3.862 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:56:22 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoins starting to get bubbly
Mar 21 16:56:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 51 @ 0.3862 = 19.6962 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:56:32 <tiberiusiv>	especially with people now accepting BTC for a house
Mar 21 16:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44999999 BTC [+]
Mar 21 16:57:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.3862 = 2.7034 BTC [-]
Mar 21 16:59:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 152 @ 0.3862 = 58.7024 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:01:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3862 = 0.7724 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 17:02:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00070629 = 5.2265 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:02:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.0007046 = 2.149 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:06:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3862 = 1.931 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:07:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3862 = 1.931 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:08:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.3862 = 38.62 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:08:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3862 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:11:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3862 = 9.655 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:11:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.3862 = 6.9516 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:17:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3857 = 1.1571 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 17:23:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00071498 = 3.1459 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 17:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00320004 = 0.32 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:25:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 618 @ 0.00320003 = 1.9776 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:25:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3857 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 17:26:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.3857 = 5.0141 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:27:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3857 = 0.7714 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:27:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 30 @ 0.3857 = 11.571 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:27:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3857 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:27:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3857 = 0.7714 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:30:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3857 = 1.1571 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:30:10 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 21 17:30:13 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227224 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 583 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 15 hours, 53 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6402126.77703 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.06668
Mar 21 17:31:02 *	jborkl is now known as jborkl_
Mar 21 17:31:36 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1654981#msg1654981
Mar 21 17:31:38 <dub>	priceless
Mar 21 17:31:47 *	jborkl_ is now known as jborkl
Mar 21 17:32:27 <dub>	may need to keep records of shareholders in an illegal currency mining operation, for legal reasons
Mar 21 17:32:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:32:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.833001 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:32:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.833 = 9.163 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:32:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8325 = 1.665 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:32:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83211 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:32:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.8321 = 4.9926 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:32:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.832 = 14.976 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 17:37:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.3857 = 4.2427 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 17:41:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3857 = 3.857 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:42:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.3857 = 5.0141 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 17:42:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 125 @ 0.3857 = 48.2125 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 17:43:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3857 = 1.9285 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:44:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3857 = 1.9285 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:44:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3857 = 9.6425 BTC [-]
Mar 21 17:44:47 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 21 17:44:48 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6398438.35799 based on data since last change | 7251846.01035 based on data for last three days
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Mar 21 17:46:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [+]
Mar 21 17:46:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 26 @ 0.386 = 10.036 BTC [+]
Mar 21 17:47:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.386 = 19.3 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 17:51:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 17:54:25 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 21 17:54:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.56962, Best ask: 72.97003, Bid-ask spread: 0.40041, Last trade: 72.56962, 24 hour volume: 96840.08022444, 24 hour low: 63.00000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 68.35320
Mar 21 17:55:14 <Bowjob>	new wealthy elite
Mar 21 17:55:48 <kakobrekla>	are you going to be repeating that all the way to 100k per?
Mar 21 17:56:21 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 21 17:56:42 *	kakobrekla starts to code 'bannable phrases' module for assbot
Mar 21 17:58:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.386 BTC [+]
Mar 21 17:58:56 <dub>	low thresholds for CRASH! RALLY! TANKING! plox
Mar 21 17:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44899 BTC [-]
Mar 21 18:02:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9999999 BTC [-]
Mar 21 18:02:46 <mod6>	12798 blocks remaning ... 81 days behind.
Mar 21 18:02:47 <mod6>	Yipes.
Mar 21 18:04:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.448 = 11.2 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 18:06:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3862 = 1.1586 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:07:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 70 @ 0.3862 = 27.034 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6624 @ 0.00071498 = 4.736 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:09:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i know this is a loaded question, but
Mar 21 18:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.44899 = 2.6939 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:10:18 <ThickAsThieves>	is there any precedent for holding an exchange culpable for a delay in transaction or deposit action that results in a loss of opporunity to buy at a lower price?
Mar 21 18:10:48 <ThickAsThieves>	ie CampBX taking 3 weeks to make my deposit
Mar 21 18:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.44899989 = 0.898 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4489999 = 1.347 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:12:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.3862 = 1.5448 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 18:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.449 = 1.347 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:13:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:13:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3862 = 7.724 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:13:22 <error4733>	;;thicker
Mar 21 18:13:22 <gribble>	Error: "thicker" is not a valid command.
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Mar 21 18:13:45 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, only precedent so far was smearing them all over btctalk and reddit, sadly
Mar 21 18:13:49 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 21 18:13:50 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 21 18:14:05 <jurov>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 18:14:06 <gribble>	3.993033 seconds
Mar 21 18:15:00 <jurov>	lol, like only goxlag stays working from their whole api
Mar 21 18:15:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.386 = 0.772 BTC [-]
Mar 21 18:15:42 <rikur>	I was about to buy VTX, but I don't want to buy it with BTC when the company is anchored to CAD.
Mar 21 18:16:36 <rikur>	so if BTC goes up by 10x, I will not benefit from it to the full extent.
Mar 21 18:17:47 <ThickAsThieves>	thats a good point, among a pile of other reasons the asset is questionable
Mar 21 18:18:14 <jurov>	yea but buying it by btc/cad has little to do with it
Mar 21 18:18:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.386 = 7.72 BTC [-]
Mar 21 18:19:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00486 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 22 @ 0.449 = 9.878 BTC [-]
Mar 21 18:19:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4489999 = 0.898 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 18:21:09 <rikur>	jurov: I just can't see a reason to anchor the value in CAD. Might be easier in regulatory terms, but I don't think I want to invest in anything based on fiat. :)
Mar 21 18:21:32 <tiberiusiv>	what is vtx
Mar 21 18:21:49 <tiberiusiv>	theres only 3 viable bitcoin companies at the moment
Mar 21 18:22:31 <jurov>	rikur, how it is anchored to CAD? only IPO amount or is there more long lastin anchor?
Mar 21 18:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1936 @ 0.00071498 = 1.3842 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00071661 = 11.9674 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 364 @ 0.0007234 = 0.2633 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:23:07 <rikur>	jurov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxkLKLIRkCI mentions that the stock will always be valued in CAD, not BTC
Mar 21 18:23:58 <jurov>	but it is already valued in BTC.. at least on havelock website
Mar 21 18:25:14 <ThickAsThieves>	its tied to CAD there too
Mar 21 18:25:17 <ThickAsThieves>	it dynamically changes
Mar 21 18:25:26 <jurov>	but that what i'm asking, how?
Mar 21 18:25:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.386 = 8.878 BTC [-]
Mar 21 18:25:43 <ThickAsThieves>	topace programmed it to adjust
Mar 21 18:25:47 <ThickAsThieves>	at least for the ipo shares
Mar 21 18:25:51 <ThickAsThieves>	dunno about after
Mar 21 18:26:27 <jurov>	so only the ipo price is cad, then? after ipo it will float freely against both cad and btc, no?
Mar 21 18:26:32 <rikur>	jurov: hmm. Maybe the video was a bit misleading.. but it's weird and flawed.
Mar 21 18:26:44 <ThickAsThieves>	even if its free floating,
Mar 21 18:26:49 <ThickAsThieves>	its true value will be in cad
Mar 21 18:26:54 <rikur>	will my stock valuation go down if BTC goes up or not?
Mar 21 18:26:59 <rikur>	maybe I should call the guy and ask
Mar 21 18:27:07 <ThickAsThieves>	people will sell it for however many btc they choose
Mar 21 18:27:23 <ThickAsThieves>	but odds are it will go down in btc value if btc price goes up
Mar 21 18:27:45 <ThickAsThieves>	they are projecting 500k+ revenue for the year,
Mar 21 18:27:53 <ThickAsThieves>	and taking $300k in this IPO
Mar 21 18:27:59 <jurov>	but that's true for any other asset that has some fiat-world operation, no?
Mar 21 18:28:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.386 = 0.772 BTC [-]
Mar 21 18:28:14 <jurov>	like ziggp, bitpride, esecurity,...
Mar 21 18:28:20 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Mar 21 18:29:50 <rikur>	meh.. the CAD valuation still bugs me off. I will give it some more thought.
Mar 21 18:29:57 <kakobrekla>	listening to that jewtube vid is like listening to some insta infinity money scam vid
Mar 21 18:29:58 <ThickAsThieves>	what i dont understand is, why are so many people buying so much of it
Mar 21 18:30:20 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah i couldnt watch it
Mar 21 18:30:27 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin!
Mar 21 18:30:36 <jurov>	perhaps canadian pride
Mar 21 18:30:57 <tiberiusiv>	rikur is the income derived in BTC or CAD?
Mar 21 18:31:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85560001 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 18:31:12 <ThickAsThieves>	but i do like how thy took more time than some to prepare their documents and a vid
Mar 21 18:31:21 <tiberiusiv>	it doesnt matter what the stock is *valued* in
Mar 21 18:31:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.3866 = 5.0258 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:31:31 <tiberiusiv>	what matters is the income it recievers
Mar 21 18:31:34 <tiberiusiv>	recieves
Mar 21 18:31:41 <ThickAsThieves>	they buy fiat, as it were
Mar 21 18:31:45 <benkay>	what's the news, friends?
Mar 21 18:31:47 <ThickAsThieves>	right?
Mar 21 18:31:54 <rikur>	tiberiusiv: I have absolutely no diea, since they will actually register you as a real shareholder of the canadian company (if you want).
Mar 21 18:31:59 <rikur>	and even that extra if is weird.
Mar 21 18:32:15 <rikur>	I don't think that a hybrid model between BTC and fiat works.
Mar 21 18:32:21 <tiberiusiv>	that means hes paying canadian income tax
Mar 21 18:32:34 <tiberiusiv>	explains why he has to do accounting in cad dollars
Mar 21 18:32:49 <rikur>	Basically, the guy here is hoping to get 100 000 CAD worth of bitcoins, give you the CAD equilevant of his company to you and keep the bitcoins
Mar 21 18:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8556 BTC [-]
Mar 21 18:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.855 = 3.71 BTC [-]
Mar 21 18:33:10 <mod6>	yeah thats not gonna end well
Mar 21 18:33:17 <ThickAsThieves>	well, they do claim to have purposes for the IPO
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Mar 21 18:33:28 <ThickAsThieves>	but if they cant make a profit with the revenue they have so far
Mar 21 18:33:33 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Mar 21 18:33:44 <rikur>	well with their volumes and 3% exchange fee, they should be able to cover the costs without it :)
Mar 21 18:34:02 <rikur>	why would you ever do an IPO unless you have to?
Mar 21 18:34:55 <ThickAsThieves>	in bitcoin world, IPO means somehting different
Mar 21 18:35:02 <jurov>	why not? free money
Mar 21 18:35:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.3866 = 4.6392 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:35:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.3866 = 7.3454 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:35:29 <ThickAsThieves>	IPO is just angel investing
Mar 21 18:35:30 <benkay>	what does it mean in bitcoin world, thickasthieves?
Mar 21 18:35:42 <ThickAsThieves>	and wild speculation
Mar 21 18:35:49 <jurov>	benkay, free money as i said
Mar 21 18:36:24 <mod6>	nothing is free
Mar 21 18:36:34 <ThickAsThieves>	if you can stay anonymous it is
Mar 21 18:36:57 <smickles>	free money to most of glbse assets
Mar 21 18:37:04 <smickles>	even before the kerfuffle
Mar 21 18:37:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.3866 = 4.6392 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:37:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.3866 = 4.6392 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:37:39 <smickles>	>95% of those turned out as outright scams
Mar 21 18:37:53 <Namworld>	https://www.bitvps.com/openvz-vps
Mar 21 18:37:53 <smickles>	now we have a half dozen glbse clones
Mar 21 18:37:58 <Namworld>	New design rolled out
Mar 21 18:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.855 BTC [-]
Mar 21 18:38:12 <smickles>	Namworld: bad ssl cert?
Mar 21 18:38:24 <Namworld>	We need to install a new one
Mar 21 18:38:57 <smickles>	looks slick :)
Mar 21 18:39:14 <Namworld>	But others staff complained about the tiles background.
Mar 21 18:39:32 <Namworld>	You prefer with the white background like it is now or the old one?
Mar 21 18:39:36 <ThickAsThieves>	its busted for me
Mar 21 18:39:46 <Namworld>	screenshot?
Mar 21 18:40:02 <ThickAsThieves>	if i remove the httpS its fine
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Mar 21 18:40:05 <jurov>	Investors show 404
Mar 21 18:40:11 <ThickAsThieves>	otherwise it loads content only
Mar 21 18:40:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3866 = 1.1598 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:40:15 <Namworld>	I know. I need to add that page
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Mar 21 18:40:33 <ThickAsThieves>	is there a Managed option?
Mar 21 18:40:33 <benkay>	bitcoin-assets
Mar 21 18:40:43 <benkay>	once again testing production in public
Mar 21 18:41:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.3866 = 1.5464 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:41:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm paying Rackspace like $450/mo right now, seems overpriced...
Mar 21 18:41:40 <jurov>	and the terms of use still lie that "Users with excessive CPU usage will be notified before any action is taken."
Mar 21 18:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.449 = 1.347 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:42:17 <ThickAsThieves>	oh this is the same service that fumbled your ddos day
Mar 21 18:42:20 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Mar 21 18:42:38 <ThickAsThieves>	not that my clients would ever get ddos
Mar 21 18:43:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3866 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:43:20 <smickles>	i thought i  got ddosed once, turns out that someone actually visited my site
Mar 21 18:43:32 <jurov>	smickles, the blog?
Mar 21 18:43:45 <smickles>	jurov: heh, yeah. ofc, i'm just kidding around
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Mar 21 18:44:01 <Namworld>	A ban on DDoS is not about CPU. It's bandwidth saturating.
Mar 21 18:44:03 <smickles>	i've got the mpex gui sales setup there too
Mar 21 18:44:12 <Namworld>	Yeah, we have a managed option
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Mar 21 18:44:58 <ThickAsThieves>	link?
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Mar 21 18:45:07 <ThickAsThieves>	meanwhile http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/3/9/4083184/fallon-fox-first-out-trans-wmma-fighter
Mar 21 18:45:39 <Namworld>	moment, still making fixes for the switchover
Mar 21 18:45:47 <jurov>	lmao www.quickbitcoins.net linked from "News" testimony doesn't load
Mar 21 18:45:51 <smickles>	wait, so a biological male is fighting women for money?
Mar 21 18:46:02 <smickles>	the fembots must love this
Mar 21 18:46:25 <jurov>	so typical for bitvps
Mar 21 18:47:18 <jurov>	Namworld, can I add my testimony, too?
Mar 21 18:47:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13036 @ 0.0007234 = 9.4302 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:47:28 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 21 18:48:00 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: thats not cricket!
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Mar 21 18:48:29 <jurov>	Namworld, feel free to copy/link this from your frontpage: https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/3713-coinbr-site-down/msg2408/#msg2408
Mar 21 18:48:41 <dub>	getting to beat up on chicks just because you had your manbits chopped off
Mar 21 18:49:27 <kakobrekla>	big sacrifice
Mar 21 18:49:32 <kakobrekla>	i say let him play
Mar 21 18:50:01 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 21 18:50:22 <ThickAsThieves>	its actually a pretty awesome test for where the line is on feminism and gender equality
Mar 21 18:50:50 <ThickAsThieves>	are women willing to concede that men are simply more powerful to stop this?
Mar 21 18:50:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.3921 = 2.3526 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:51:04 <dub>	they don't concded this already?
Mar 21 18:51:16 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe mentally they do
Mar 21 18:51:30 <ThickAsThieves>	but i'm sure some butchies would disagree
Mar 21 18:52:27 <ThickAsThieves>	and i'm sure it would make many women cringe to say so
Mar 21 18:52:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno
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Mar 21 18:56:59 <jurov>	poor namworld. i feel sorry now :(
Mar 21 18:58:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 97 @ 0.3921 = 38.0337 BTC [+]
Mar 21 18:59:10 <smickles>	http://go.bloomberg.com/market-now/2013/03/21/sorry-bitcoin-isnt-a-currency/
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Mar 21 19:02:55 <Namworld>	Sorry, I was updating still
Mar 21 19:03:24 <Namworld>	yeah, quickbitcoins.net is no longer around
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Mar 21 19:05:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3839 BTC [-]
Mar 21 19:05:52 <jurov>	put in satoshidice comment to the bloomberg nonsense
Mar 21 19:05:57 <ThickAsThieves>	boy does that bloomberg article suck
Mar 21 19:06:38 <ThickAsThieves>	it reads like an essay that was turned in late by a 10th grader
Mar 21 19:06:49 <ThickAsThieves>	(american 10th grader, not vietnamese)
Mar 21 19:06:51 <benkay_>	that's all american print media can afford
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Mar 21 19:07:05 <benkay_>	did you grok the atlantic kerfuffle recently?
Mar 21 19:07:17 <ThickAsThieves>	dont think so
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Mar 21 19:09:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.108999 = 0.327 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 19:10:16 <benkay_>	some jr editor wanted to pay an author 100 bucks for a rewrite of a rather lengthy piece
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Mar 21 19:11:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.0099 = 0.1287 BTC [+]
Mar 21 19:11:12 <benkay_>	http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/03/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-digital-editor-2013/273763/
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Mar 21 19:13:49 <benkay>	the article in question: http://www.nknews.org/2013/03/slam-dunk-diplomacy/
Mar 21 19:13:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.3839 = 3.4551 BTC [-]
Mar 21 19:14:27 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 19:14:28 <gribble>	25.624905 seconds
Mar 21 19:14:31 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 21 19:14:32 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
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Mar 21 19:17:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2964 @ 0.00072379 = 2.1453 BTC [+]
Mar 21 19:17:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10786 @ 0.00072101 = 7.7768 BTC [-]
Mar 21 19:18:46 <benkay>	;;ticker
Mar 21 19:18:46 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 21 19:18:53 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 19:18:54 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 21 19:18:59 <benkay>	that seems unlikely.
Mar 21 19:19:01 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 19:19:02 <gribble>	0.356072 seconds
Mar 21 19:20:34 <tiberiusiv>	anyone think the recent price climb will end badly
Mar 21 19:21:24 <benkay>	lots of people
Mar 21 19:21:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858 BTC [+]
Mar 21 19:21:33 <benkay>	but "badly" is subjective.
Mar 21 19:21:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858 BTC [+]
Mar 21 19:22:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 26 @ 0.3828 = 9.9528 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 19:23:56 <Bowjob>	https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MccfK4Ruw2c/UUtLHPSPkGI/AAAAAAAAA2Y/OSWxUTiEDjA/s716/IMG_20130321_204509.jpg
Mar 21 19:24:24 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 21 19:24:27 <tiberiusiv>	looks like its in the ghetto
Mar 21 19:24:42 <Troic>	cheap floor, china ?
Mar 21 19:24:46 <Bowjob>	nah, belaur
Mar 21 19:24:49 <Bowjob>	belarus
Mar 21 19:25:12 <kakobrekla>	love the gloves
Mar 21 19:25:35 <Bowjob>	i got a boner off of it. 4 avalons
Mar 21 19:25:35 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 21 19:25:39 <kakobrekla>	on a 7k usd mining device...
Mar 21 19:26:23 <tiberiusiv>	moving on up from 3rd world to 1st with those 4 devices
Mar 21 19:26:54 <error4733>	avalon is 65 or 85Ghs ?
Mar 21 19:27:01 <tiberiusiv>	65
Mar 21 19:27:04 <Bowjob>	its 68
Mar 21 19:27:06 <Bowjob>	for 3 modules
Mar 21 19:27:11 <Bowjob>	85 for 4
Mar 21 19:27:42 <Bowjob>	there was no option to upgrade to 4 modules for batch, if they charge 22 BTC for one module, then f that
Mar 21 19:27:45 <error4733>	ok that why i had those numbers in head
Mar 21 19:27:48 <error4733>	thanks
Mar 21 19:28:29 <tiberiusiv>	even with the current price bitcoin liquidity has not substantially improved
Mar 21 19:28:38 <tiberiusiv>	still huge slippage trying to sell larger ammounts
Mar 21 19:29:06 <error4733>	ok so you tell me this guy, make 2K$ day ?
Mar 21 19:29:43 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 21 19:29:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3828 = 1.914 BTC [-]
Mar 21 19:29:51 <Bowjob>	depending on btc price increase, even more
Mar 21 19:29:56 <error4733>	new floor soon
Mar 21 19:30:40 <tiberiusiv>	aapl trades 2% of market cap per day
Mar 21 19:30:47 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin in comparison about 0.9%
Mar 21 19:30:55 <tiberiusiv>	substantial liquidity problem imo
Mar 21 19:31:12 <error4733>	true picture 100% ? can do the same box in one week
Mar 21 19:31:42 <Bowjob>	what ever happened to ianbakewell
Mar 21 19:31:48 <Bowjob>	he was 600 BTC short at 34.50
Mar 21 19:31:56 <tiberiusiv>	how was he shorting
Mar 21 19:32:08 <tiberiusiv>	someone lend him coins ?
Mar 21 19:32:17 <smickles>	hopefully mpex options
Mar 21 19:32:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3856 = 3.856 BTC [+]
Mar 21 19:32:27 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 21 19:32:35 <Bowjob>	hasnt been online since march 4th
Mar 21 19:33:07 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 21 19:33:12 <tiberiusiv>	must have taken a bath
Mar 21 19:33:17 <error4733>	didnt make the meme yet ?
Mar 21 19:33:32 <Bowjob>	he missed 2 payments already
Mar 21 19:33:36 <tiberiusiv>	alot of people got out between 20-30
Mar 21 19:33:38 <Bowjob>	his 3rd payment is due tomorrow
Mar 21 19:33:47 <tiberiusiv>	payment on what
Mar 21 19:33:49 <error4733>	link ?
Mar 21 19:33:53 <Bowjob>	his payment schedule
Mar 21 19:33:54 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146689.msg1573807#msg1573807
Mar 21 19:34:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3856 = 9.64 BTC [+]
Mar 21 19:34:04 <Bowjob>	i dont know if he's been paying or not.. but
Mar 21 19:34:12 <Bowjob>	that short must hurt like a bitch
Mar 21 19:34:27 <tiberiusiv>	I should have no problem repaying this as long as BTC stays bellow $41.66 ... if it goes above we would need to work something out for a bit more time to repay.
Mar 21 19:34:37 <kakobrekla>	Last Active: 	March 04, 2013, 04:01:41 PM
Mar 21 19:34:40 <smickles>	is this yet another guy who risked more than he had to lose?
Mar 21 19:34:42 <tiberiusiv>	man these losers borrow BTC to sell for fiat to pay credit cards and shit
Mar 21 19:35:02 <tiberiusiv>	i dont get why people are loaning BTC, to users who cannot even manage fiat debts
Mar 21 19:35:24 <Bowjob>	https://btcjam.com/listings/2063
Mar 21 19:35:32 <Bowjob>	looks like he hasn't paid yet either
Mar 21 19:35:43 <Bowjob>	Yeah, loaning is very risky
Mar 21 19:35:47 <Bowjob>	I have 3 BTC lent out currently
Mar 21 19:36:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.108999 = 0.763 BTC [-]
Mar 21 19:36:11 <Bowjob>	i pick my loaners very carefully, and just small amounts
Mar 21 19:36:21 <smickles>	ouch, sucks to be that aesop dood
Mar 21 19:36:34 <tiberiusiv>	why would you lend to people who dont have BTC based incomes?
Mar 21 19:37:08 <tiberiusiv>	right  now there is maybe 0.1% of bitcoiners who have the capability to repay
Mar 21 19:37:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3856 = 0.7712 BTC [+]
Mar 21 19:37:43 <Bowjob>	I posted a bet that ianbakewell is gonna scam
Mar 21 19:37:51 <Bowjob>	it didnt get approved
Mar 21 19:37:53 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 21 19:38:53 <tiberiusiv>	how can someone offer 3% a week on btc without having the income to pay
Mar 21 19:38:55 <kakobrekla>	regarding ian: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3th3is/
Mar 21 19:38:56 <smickles>	maybe it just needed to be rephrased
Mar 21 19:39:03 <tiberiusiv>	his real interest rate is around 300% a week
Mar 21 19:39:58 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 21 19:39:58 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 21 19:40:06 <smickles>	haha
Mar 21 19:40:11 <smickles>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 19:40:11 <gribble>	0.18079 seconds
Mar 21 19:40:14 <tiberiusiv>	amazing how people never question that
Mar 21 19:40:22 <tiberiusiv>	then wonder why the present financial system is bankrupt
Mar 21 19:40:24 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 21 19:40:24 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 21 19:40:29 <Bowjob>	broken?
Mar 21 19:41:13 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: in many parts of the us, if you charge over x% annual (ie 10%) the debtor only has to pay back at the x% rate
Mar 21 19:41:39 <smickles>	some places they can sue you and not have to pay back at all
Mar 21 19:41:50 <tiberiusiv>	the thing is how do people expect someone to repay something extremely scarce and difficult to obtain
Mar 21 19:42:04 <tiberiusiv>	if you have to borrow you should borrow USD
Mar 21 19:42:25 <smickles>	you should always borrow known inflationary things
Mar 21 19:42:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3856 = 19.28 BTC [+]
Mar 21 19:42:34 <tiberiusiv>	most of the bitcoin borrowers are such deadbeats that they cannot even obtain fiat credit, yetpeople are willing to loan them BTC?
Mar 21 19:42:35 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 21 19:42:59 <tiberiusiv>	why wouldnt that joker just borrow off his credit card to buy the 300 BTC he needed
Mar 21 19:43:17 <benkay>	that's an excellent idea
Mar 21 19:43:23 <benkay>	brb maxing plastic
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Mar 21 19:43:36 <Bowjob>	well theres this kid who borrowed .7 btc
Mar 21 19:43:36 <smickles>	it's cheaper than borrowing btc
Mar 21 19:43:39 <tiberiusiv>	borrowing off the CC is much better then borrowing BTC
Mar 21 19:43:40 <Bowjob>	and hes 13
Mar 21 19:43:44 <smickles>	3% weekly vs 30% annually
Mar 21 19:43:58 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: the real rate of interest on BTC this week is like 300%
Mar 21 19:44:12 <tiberiusiv>	that guys debt ballooned in USD terms
Mar 21 19:44:16 <tiberiusiv>	of course he defaulted
Mar 21 19:44:44 <Bowjob>	I weep for those 600 BTC
Mar 21 19:44:46 <tiberiusiv>	if you cannot obtain fiat credit in a 0% interest rate world you have to be an utter deadbeat
Mar 21 19:45:00 <tiberiusiv>	why arent btc creditors asking themselves that?
Mar 21 19:46:13 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140690.0
Mar 21 19:46:15 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 21 19:46:21 <smickles>	;;calc 1.03 ** 52
Mar 21 19:46:22 <gribble>	4.65088589525
Mar 21 19:46:30 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: looks more like 465%
Mar 21 19:46:32 <Bowjob>	There was this dude willing to lend this kid 100 BTC
Mar 21 19:46:36 <Bowjob>	if he got other investors
Mar 21 19:47:26 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin has no mechanism(inflation) to bail out debtors
Mar 21 19:47:43 <tiberiusiv>	so loans have to be very carefully analyzed
Mar 21 19:48:10 <smickles>	you gotta figure a rate of deflation and tac that on to the charged interest
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Mar 21 19:48:28 <tiberiusiv>	as i said earlier, less then 0.1% of the bitcoin users qualify for BTC loans as first you need a BTC derived income
Mar 21 19:48:47 <tiberiusiv>	meaning at the moment worthy borrowers are either miners, or those running btc gambling sites
Mar 21 19:48:55 <tiberiusiv>	nobody else can afford to repay loans
Mar 21 19:49:10 <smickles>	i do accounting for btc ;)
Mar 21 19:49:28 <smickles>	and other related services
Mar 21 19:49:46 <smickles>	but i'm not looking to borrow btc
Mar 21 19:49:54 <smickles>	or usd for that matter
Mar 21 19:50:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3856 = 19.28 BTC [+]
Mar 21 19:50:45 <tiberiusiv>	the benefit to bitcoin is it eliminates idiots from holding them
Mar 21 19:50:46 <Namworld>	yeah, but that's USD/hour derivated.
Mar 21 19:50:55 <tiberiusiv>	as they lose them to scams
Mar 21 19:51:19 <smickles>	Namworld: i suppose most of it is
Mar 21 19:51:24 <kakobrekla>	so on the end you only have scammers
Mar 21 19:51:33 <kakobrekla>	scammin each other off
Mar 21 19:51:45 <tiberiusiv>	no you have the legit investors, scammers and legit business
Mar 21 19:51:51 <tiberiusiv>	the idiot component is too broke to participate
Mar 21 19:51:56 <tiberiusiv>	natural evolution
Mar 21 19:52:03 <tiberiusiv>	eventually the scammers vanish
Mar 21 19:53:02 <tiberiusiv>	overtime bitcoin related scams will decrease substantially
Mar 21 19:53:04 <smickles>	;;calc 130590.75406879/1000000000
Mar 21 19:53:04 <gribble>	0.000130590754069
Mar 21 19:53:34 <tiberiusiv>	and the scammed coins will be sold to real users(spent) or invested into btc business's
Mar 21 19:53:34 <smickles>	!last s.mpoe
Mar 21 19:53:35 <assbot>	The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
Mar 21 19:53:46 <smickles>	!last m s.mpoe
Mar 21 19:53:46 <assbot>	Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00072101 BTC [-]
Mar 21 19:54:23 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 21 19:54:24 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 21 19:54:31 <Bowjob>	what happened to the ticker
Mar 21 19:54:44 <smickles>	mtgox http api v1 down?
Mar 21 19:55:34 <smickles>	i haven't seen a mtgox usd trade go by in a while
Mar 21 19:56:01 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets
Mar 21 19:56:10 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 19:56:10 <gribble>	8.012634 seconds
Mar 21 19:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.001 BTC [-]
Mar 21 19:57:08 <smickles>	and my bot can't read the mtgox depth for usd
Mar 21 19:57:32 <smickles>	no mtgoxusd trades in the past hour or so according to amphipod
Mar 21 19:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.3855 = 1.542 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:00:03 <tiberiusiv>	just check another exchange?
Mar 21 20:00:41 <ThickAsThieves>	gox suggested bid is 70.85
Mar 21 20:02:36 <ThickAsThieves>	its not moving tho
Mar 21 20:03:17 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 20:03:18 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 21 20:03:23 <benkay>	yeah right.
Mar 21 20:03:40 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: gox still does > 80% of the public btc/fiat trade
Mar 21 20:03:49 <smickles>	it's significant if they arn't trading
Mar 21 20:04:13 <smickles>	or arn't trading usd, in this case
Mar 21 20:04:29 <ThickAsThieves>	seems like manipulation
Mar 21 20:04:32 <tiberiusiv>	gox USD volumes are down to 62%
Mar 21 20:04:50 <tiberiusiv>	gox does 68% total of EUR/USD
Mar 21 20:04:57 <tiberiusiv>	by the end of 2013 i  bet you gox USD trade is in the 50's
Mar 21 20:05:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 21 @ 0.3923 = 8.2383 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:05:20 <tiberiusiv>	by 2014 i would be surprised if gox did over 50% of fiat trade
Mar 21 20:05:23 <smickles>	hmm, well that 62% is still around 10x their nearest competitor
Mar 21 20:05:40 <ThickAsThieves>	gox usd trade will be 0% next month right?
Mar 21 20:05:43 <tiberiusiv>	smickles they have been bleeding market share since 2011
Mar 21 20:05:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3923 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:05:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 40 @ 0.108999 = 4.36 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:05:56 <ThickAsThieves>	cuz coinlab
Mar 21 20:06:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 126 @ 0.109 = 13.734 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:06:31 <ThickAsThieves>	this page seems to be working http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/
Mar 21 20:06:47 <benkay>	someone is hoping that bringing gox ops to america will make things work more smoothyl
Mar 21 20:06:53 <smickles>	so we've stabilized at 70.85
Mar 21 20:07:04 <smickles>	exactly, and haven't moved for a while
Mar 21 20:07:13 <kakobrekla>	stable for 90 sec
Mar 21 20:07:16 <tiberiusiv>	benkay: the US is still the center of the world
Mar 21 20:08:08 <smickles>	bitcoincharts shows no trades since the new day on their chart
Mar 21 20:08:35 <jcpham>	smickles said stabilized
Mar 21 20:08:48 <smickles>	only in jest, i swear!
Mar 21 20:08:53 <jcpham>	* ah- hah! *
Mar 21 20:08:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.3923 = 5.0999 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:09:15 <jcpham>	reminds me of pirate interest
Mar 21 20:09:24 <benkay>	tiberiusiv: you're probably familiar with what happens to centers of the world when their currecies blow up
Mar 21 20:09:32 <benkay>	currencies
Mar 21 20:09:35 <benkay>	i cannot type today
Mar 21 20:09:49 <tiberiusiv>	benkay: considering the majority of dollars are outside of the US the losses occur to creditors
Mar 21 20:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4848 = 1.4544 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:10:16 <benkay>	MOAR DOLLARS
Mar 21 20:10:19 <benkay>	for everyone
Mar 21 20:10:27 <benkay>	bees.gif
Mar 21 20:10:54 <benkay>	i ain't averse to it.
Mar 21 20:11:05 <smickles>	70.85 and unchanged in 10 minutes
Mar 21 20:11:22 <kakobrekla>	bitcoinity is trading
Mar 21 20:11:25 <tiberiusiv>	thats an mtgox error
Mar 21 20:11:25 <benkay>	what are the other exchanges doing right now?
Mar 21 20:11:34 <tiberiusiv>	74 on the canada exchange
Mar 21 20:11:41 <kakobrekla>	bitcoinity gox is trading
Mar 21 20:11:44 <smickles>	23:27 <+amphipod> Mar21 23:27:38 bc                0.1689 @    58.50       EUR
Mar 21 20:11:47 <smickles>	23:28 <+amphipod> Mar21 23:27:51 mtgox             0.1000 @    56.79214    EUR
Mar 21 20:11:50 <smickles>	23:28 <+amphipod> Mar21 23:28:11 btc24      x3     7.1900 @    57.00       EUR
Mar 21 20:12:01 <smickles>	er, wrong spot
Mar 21 20:12:03 <ThickAsThieves>	gox is pushing price down
Mar 21 20:12:26 <ThickAsThieves>	that suggested bid feature they have is kinda fucked up
Mar 21 20:12:33 <smickles>	ah i see a mtgox usd trade
Mar 21 20:12:45 <smickles>	71
Mar 21 20:12:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3923 = 0.7846 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:13:06 <smickles>	even
Mar 21 20:13:13 <smickles>	at 1363911066
Mar 21 20:13:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 202 @ 0.3923 = 79.2446 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 20:15:30 <smickles>	maybe they tried to go live with the coinlab thing at midnight utc
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Mar 21 20:16:29 <ThickAsThieves>	was that today?
Mar 21 20:16:38 <ThickAsThieves>	that they planned the change?
Mar 21 20:16:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.016 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:16:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01591 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:16:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0155 = 0.155 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:16:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 20:16:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:17:15 <benkay>	what precisely is this weirdness?
Mar 21 20:17:36 <smickles>	lol, a whole bunch of 70.85 trades went thru
Mar 21 20:18:16 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: i have no clue, just weirdness today
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Mar 21 20:18:38 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 21 20:18:43 <kakobrekla>	this will be about correct
Mar 21 20:18:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00401 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:19:15 <benkay>	quite the wall at 74
Mar 21 20:19:38 <kakobrekla>	lucky bulls can climb
Mar 21 20:19:45 <ThickAsThieves>	thats what happens when gox tells all buyers that rate is 70.85
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Mar 21 20:21:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.395 = 4.74 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:21:55 <Bowjob>	mhmm
Mar 21 20:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4848 = 0.9696 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:22:03 <Bowjob>	we got this new IPO
Mar 21 20:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48489999 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:22:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.485 = 1.94 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:22:08 <ThickAsThieves>	man i need to write a prospectus for a $100k ipo
Mar 21 20:22:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0042 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:22:25 <ThickAsThieves>	Guys, invest in my business!
Mar 21 20:22:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.395 = 19.75 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:23:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.395 = 5.925 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:23:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.395 = 1.185 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:24:29 <kakobrekla>	http://geizhals.at/?phistgfx=652381&loc=de&age=9999&width=640&l=de&dc=EUR
Mar 21 20:24:32 <kakobrekla>	DDR3 prices
Mar 21 20:24:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.395 = 1.58 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:24:41 <kakobrekla>	dis better dan bitcoin
Mar 21 20:24:44 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: your proposal makes too much sense
Mar 21 20:24:49 <benkay>	so someone just gave me this raspberry pi, and if I weren't actually busy with things, I'd set up a mining company called "MINIMINER"
Mar 21 20:24:55 <benkay>	mimic all the scam copy
Mar 21 20:25:00 <Bowjob>	I thought VTX was .38
Mar 21 20:25:00 <dub>	thow in some spelling/grammar fuckups
Mar 21 20:25:08 <benkay>	thow indeed
Mar 21 20:25:20 <ThickAsThieves>	vtx ipo is priced dynamic to btc/cad
Mar 21 20:25:50 <Bowjob>	so its pegged to the dollar then
Mar 21 20:26:04 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 21 20:26:04 <dub>	thats not a spelling error btw thats lag
Mar 21 20:26:05 <jurov>	btc/cad SPOT price?
Mar 21 20:26:14 <jurov>	that would be insane
Mar 21 20:26:35 <ThickAsThieves>	$30CAD or therabouts i think
Mar 21 20:26:54 <Bowjob>	still figuring out if they are worth 3 million dollars
Mar 21 20:27:19 <Bowjob>	coinlab is going to the us, they mentioned canada..
Mar 21 20:27:21 <ThickAsThieves>	buy some stock and figure it out with friends!
Mar 21 20:27:47 <ThickAsThieves>	somehting funny,
Mar 21 20:27:55 <ThickAsThieves>	is the Crypto-trade ipo
Mar 21 20:27:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 57 @ 0.395 = 22.515 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:28:03 <ThickAsThieves>	yes, it was also way overpriced
Mar 21 20:28:05 <ThickAsThieves>	but
Mar 21 20:28:08 <Bowjob>	mhm, people seem to buy it
Mar 21 20:28:18 <ThickAsThieves>	they are super slow in updating their price on the ltcglobal version
Mar 21 20:28:29 <ThickAsThieves>	so you can get shares at like 20%+ off
Mar 21 20:29:29 <ThickAsThieves>	seems like a scam red flag to me
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Mar 21 20:32:56 <fulluser20>	hi
Mar 21 20:33:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4084 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:33:13 <fulluser20>	anything i can trade with only 0.02 btc
Mar 21 20:36:09 <Bowjob>	i can trade you some tf2 hats
Mar 21 20:36:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4084 = 1.6336 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:36:36 <ThickAsThieves>	you can buy litecoins
Mar 21 20:37:24 <Bowjob>	litecoins are pretty much back to where it was
Mar 21 20:37:35 <Bowjob>	slightly above before the great flash rally
Mar 21 20:37:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4084 = 1.2252 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:39:20 <fulluser20>	Bowjob , arent those free ? ..
Mar 21 20:39:31 <Bowjob>	Tf2? hats?
Mar 21 20:39:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 500 @ 0.4084 = 204.2 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:39:42 <Bowjob>	you can get them via drop, but you can sell them for paypal stuffs
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Mar 21 20:40:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85887 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:40:11 <ThickAsThieves>	holy crap thats a lot of vtx sales
Mar 21 20:40:13 <Bowjob>	you can be the king of TF2 if you have the burnign team captain hat, worth about $3 grand
Mar 21 20:40:39 <Bowjob>	and yes, people pay real money for hats
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Mar 21 20:41:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4084 = 1.2252 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:42:36 <fulluser20>	I´ll be better modeling something for second life
Mar 21 20:42:45 <fulluser20>	if it was me
Mar 21 20:43:44 <Bowjob>	the top hat maker makes about 500k a year
Mar 21 20:49:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1099 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4013 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:50:42 <Bowjob>	I know who bought the avalon for 20k
Mar 21 20:50:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4013 = 1.6052 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:51:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4013 = 1.2039 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:53:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4013 = 1.2039 BTC [-]
Mar 21 20:54:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 21 20:54:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.90000, Best ask: 70.90001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 70.90001, 24 hour volume: 92929.72727128, 24 hour low: 63.10100, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 69.25416
Mar 21 20:54:13 <kakobrekla>	ngzang?
Mar 21 20:54:41 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/8tSEbLz.png
Mar 21 20:54:44 <Bowjob>	try again
Mar 21 20:58:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85887 BTC [+]
Mar 21 20:59:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4013 BTC [-]
Mar 21 21:00:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4074 = 0.8148 BTC [+]
Mar 21 21:08:53 <mod6>	lol 71 days to go...
Mar 21 21:09:17 <mod6>	!ticker h VTX
Mar 21 21:09:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.38280000 / 0.39073395 / 0.43320000 (5939 shares, 2320.56890000 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.39183944 / 0.46140000 (6063 shares, 2375.72250000 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.39183944 / 0.46140000 (6063 shares, 2375.72250000 BTC)
Mar 21 21:09:36 <mod6>	hmm
Mar 21 21:12:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 535 @ 0.4074 = 217.959 BTC [+]
Mar 21 21:14:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4074 BTC [+]
Mar 21 21:14:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 181 @ 0.4074 = 73.7394 BTC [+]
Mar 21 21:16:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.4013 = 10.0325 BTC [-]
Mar 21 21:17:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [+]
Mar 21 21:17:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 200 @ 0.4013 = 80.26 BTC [-]
Mar 21 21:18:27 <ThickAsThieves>	where is all this money for VTX coming from?
Mar 21 21:18:51 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 21 21:18:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4013 = 4.013 BTC [-]
Mar 21 21:21:40 <Namworld>	There's plenty of money for VTX
Mar 21 21:22:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4013 = 2.8091 BTC [-]
Mar 21 21:23:27 <ThickAsThieves>	thats an answer
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Mar 21 21:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock vtc
Mar 21 21:34:41 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Mar 21 21:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock vtx
Mar 21 21:34:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.38280000 / 0.39283695 / 0.43320000 (6898 shares, 2709.78930000 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.39375433 / 0.46140000 (7022 shares, 2764.94290000 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.39375433 / 0.46140000 (7022 shares, 2764.94290000 BTC)
Mar 21 21:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 21 21:34:51 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.832 / 0.87807 / 0.93 (269 shares, 236.2 BTC),  7D: 0.769995 / 0.85241 / 0.9489 (1434 shares, 1222.4 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.76435 / 1 (3497 shares, 2672.9 BTC)
Mar 21 21:34:55 <mircea_popescu>	ahem,
Mar 21 21:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	cavirtex owns asicminer.
Mar 21 21:37:03 <Namworld>	Oh... nice theory
Mar 21 21:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	it's a point of fact.
Mar 21 21:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	cavirtex got more in a day than asicmienr in two weeks.
Mar 21 21:37:39 <mircea_popescu>	this is what a blown ipo looks like.
Mar 21 21:39:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.85887 = 10.3064 BTC [+]
Mar 21 21:39:46 <Namworld>	all havelockinvestments.com funds are blown...
Mar 21 21:39:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.85888 = 2.5766 BTC [+]
Mar 21 21:40:04 <Namworld>	idk why but maybe Canadians just don't know about anything else that that one.
Mar 21 21:40:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 30 @ 0.3987 = 11.961 BTC [-]
Mar 21 21:40:16 <Namworld>	and don't know about the risks involved.
Mar 21 21:40:17 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld asicminer is blown.
Mar 21 21:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	cavirtex is doing just fine i'd say.
Mar 21 21:40:25 <Namworld>	oh, that too for sure
Mar 21 21:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, they wanted 300k got about half of it so far ?
Mar 21 21:43:52 *	unbalanced_away is now known as unbalanced
Mar 21 21:44:49 <Namworld>	more than that. Like 7/10th of it
Mar 21 21:44:59 <Namworld>	Less than 3k/10k left
Mar 21 21:45:10 <Namworld>	Valued at 3 million it seems.
Mar 21 21:45:11 <unbalanced>	Namworld: what are the other fund/investment options for those of us who aren't on mpex directly?
Mar 21 21:45:28 <Namworld>	bitfunder.com or btct.co
Mar 21 21:45:39 <Namworld>	Although the quality choices are more limited
Mar 21 21:45:44 <unbalanced>	Thanks, I just can't keep up with all the developments and keep my day job.
Mar 21 21:45:57 <unbalanced>	What's this bitfinex I heard earlier today a few times?
Mar 21 21:46:13 <unbalanced>	Googled it, just saw a gaming hardware builder
Mar 21 21:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced there's mpex pass-through vehicles pretty much on all three
Mar 21 21:47:04 <mircea_popescu>	also jurov runs a broker website (coinbr.com) and i think he's doing something with futures too
Mar 21 21:47:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.4027 = 8.8594 BTC [+]
Mar 21 21:47:53 <unbalanced>	I was pleased to find SDICE via Havelock and haven't looked much past that.
Mar 21 21:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	re bitfinex prolly check out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140484.0
Mar 21 21:48:02 <unbalanced>	Busy/lazy
Mar 21 21:48:30 <unbalanced>	Ah... so MPOE-PR seriously isn't you with a girl's picture?
Mar 21 21:48:54 <unbalanced>	Or are we not allowed to ask that? "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"
Mar 21 21:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	seriously.
Mar 21 21:49:45 <unbalanced>	(Someone will do a lexical analysis someday.)
Mar 21 21:50:18 <dub>	I think its a bit of both
Mar 21 21:50:40 <dub>	theres a girl driving the account, sometimes she gets scripts or at least dictation
Mar 21 21:51:16 <unbalanced>	Listen I should warn you all I put some serious (for me) money into Bitcoin today after not holding nearly enough during the run-up.
Mar 21 21:51:30 <unbalanced>	So, yeah. That was officially the top.
Mar 21 21:51:35 <mircea_popescu>	dub she's pr, obviously she dioesn;'t compose her own poetry over there.
Mar 21 21:51:41 <dub>	at least in my opinion, some of the rants take on a scary level of MP semblance
Mar 21 21:52:30 <unbalanced>	Okay so coinbr gets me access to some of the MPEx features I wouldn't get yet with Havelock. Roger.
Mar 21 21:53:19 <dub>	and reduced risk of avoiding passthroughs
Mar 21 21:53:32 <dub>	s/of/through
Mar 21 21:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co << spanish faq too
Mar 21 21:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	actually most of her job consists on reading, selecting and summarizing the nonsense people post there.
Mar 21 21:54:51 <unbalanced>	My favourite in the FAQ is #10: "You know those charts without any indication of scale ? That's not how charts work."
Mar 21 21:55:32 <unbalanced>	*That's* where I've seen coinbr.com before... for its charts. Didn't grok that it was also a service.
Mar 21 21:55:44 <unbalanced>	Via that FAQ link.
Mar 21 21:56:01 <Namworld>	http://www.namworld.net/pf/bitvps.com/openvz-vps
Mar 21 21:56:01 <Namworld>	VS
Mar 21 21:56:01 <Namworld>	https://www.bitvps.com/openvz-vps
Mar 21 21:56:04 <dub>	fyi all the cool kids use this referral link https://coinbr.com/ref?c=A3R7Tstq16
Mar 21 21:56:05 <Namworld>	please vote
Mar 21 21:57:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4027 = 0.8054 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 21:59:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 248 @ 0.4027 = 99.8696 BTC [+]
Mar 21 21:59:47 <unbalanced>	Maybe a darker body font if you go with that grid-y background. Or did I misunderstand vote?
Mar 21 22:00:37 <Namworld>	actually, just tile vs no tiles for background. So far seems people liked tiles more but just checking further.
Mar 21 22:00:40 <Bowjob>	wow. 248 shares
Mar 21 22:00:51 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 21 22:00:52 <Namworld>	Rest of the staff doesn't agree with the tiles
Mar 21 22:00:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.00001, Best ask: 72.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 72.05000, 24 hour volume: 93837.20934717, 24 hour low: 63.10100, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 69.38534
Mar 21 22:01:59 <smickles>	i should hire someone to troll the forum and report its activity back to me too
Mar 21 22:02:01 <unbalanced>	I like tiles but small body font is too close a shade to them. IMO
Mar 21 22:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	smickles lol
Mar 21 22:02:15 <Namworld>	http://www.namworld.net/pf/bitvps.com/kvm-vps
Mar 21 22:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	soon enough btctalk will be fully robotized
Mar 21 22:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like hft
Mar 21 22:02:37 <Namworld>	I'll add some background container for the text
Mar 21 22:02:57 <unbalanced>	You did, yeah, I see... works I guess
Mar 21 22:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	what, not 80 yet ?
Mar 21 22:04:51 <mircea_popescu>	wtf!
Mar 21 22:04:52 <unbalanced>	But the all-white bg beats the one with a container for the next.
Mar 21 22:04:57 <unbalanced>	*text
Mar 21 22:05:27 <unbalanced>	mircea_popsecu: see above, I bought in. Kiss of death.
Mar 21 22:05:30 <Bowjob>	ikr
Mar 21 22:05:34 <Bowjob>	bitcoin such a fail investment
Mar 21 22:05:51 <Bowjob>	brb, moving to ixcoins
Mar 21 22:07:18 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: mtgox cooled things off by stopping usd trades for ~10 min following midnight utc
Mar 21 22:07:57 <dub>	wat
Mar 21 22:08:18 <smickles>	yeah, for that time it showed last: 70.85
Mar 21 22:08:46 <smickles>	gribble's ticker didn't work b/c it used the http api ticker which was offline
Mar 21 22:08:58 <smickles>	and only non usd trades were being made
Mar 21 22:09:14 <smickles>	my bot couldn't even fetch the market depth for usd
Mar 21 22:09:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4027 = 4.027 BTC [+]
Mar 21 22:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 21 22:10:14 <dub>	any big trades prior?
Mar 21 22:10:20 <dub>	like 20k btc big
Mar 21 22:10:24 <smickles>	not that i saw
Mar 21 22:10:33 <smickles>	it happened to the second on midnight
Mar 21 22:11:01 <the-bucket-shop>	I came in mid conversation - does someone need someone to set up a vote on bitcointalk about whether to add a tile background to mpex.co?  In addition to the cherries?
Mar 21 22:11:02 <smickles>	my wild guess what it was a botched switch over to coinwho
Mar 21 22:11:19 <smickles>	Namworld: strawpoll.me
Mar 21 22:11:21 <smickles>	use it
Mar 21 22:11:30 <smickles>	those things are awesome!
Mar 21 22:11:54 <smickles>	realtime polls, all animated and such
Mar 21 22:13:18 <unbalanced>	mircea_popescu: thanks for the FAQ link btw... I'd already read it, but I'll have to take a vacation to implement and the now-$2100 equiv for a seat is out of my budget range. I was too late to the party so I'll have to stick with the passthroughs.
Mar 21 22:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	not a crime.
Mar 21 22:15:27 <unbalanced>	mucho respect for what y'all have built though. I feel smarter just trying to read up on this channel.
Mar 21 22:16:18 <Namworld>	not a bad idea, smickles
Mar 21 22:16:33 <unbalanced>	I could do without the nastier porn links, but hey, that's just me.
Mar 21 22:16:36 <Namworld>	Poll on bitvps design: http://strawpoll.me/10592
Mar 21 22:16:54 <unbalanced>	smickles: is @dandirks, the strawpoll guy, a bitcoiner?
Mar 21 22:17:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.4027 = 40.27 BTC [+]
Mar 21 22:17:14 <smickles>	unbalanced: i don't have any idea
Mar 21 22:17:20 <unbalanced>	ah, just a coincidence
Mar 21 22:17:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4027 = 2.8189 BTC [+]
Mar 21 22:17:30 <smickles>	i just know of the site from other people using it
Mar 21 22:18:26 <smickles>	aw, no love for the poll?
Mar 21 22:19:03 <dub>	whats a fair markup for otc bitcoin?
Mar 21 22:19:08 <unbalanced>	And just a coincidence then -- I do some polling stuff and we work in node.js and we built something like that. That's what I'm talking about, you brainiacs knock something out in a weekend and I can't get a project launched in a year.
Mar 21 22:19:28 <smickles>	dub: depends on the method of transmission
Mar 21 22:19:29 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced just filter out dtng you'll be fine
Mar 21 22:19:42 <Namworld>	try http://namcdn.com/btcalarm
Mar 21 22:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	dub it'd depend on your op neh ?
Mar 21 22:19:56 <dub>	cash face to face
Mar 21 22:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	still.
Mar 21 22:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	(op = other party)
Mar 21 22:20:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.4027 = 40.27 BTC [+]
Mar 21 22:20:23 <dub>	oh, buddies
Mar 21 22:20:25 <Namworld>	I did that somewhere when Bitcoin price started getting volatile. I use it to wake me up when price goes past my set threshold.
Mar 21 22:20:25 <smickles>	i'd only give travel consideration to the markup on face to face cash
Mar 21 22:20:29 <dub>	people I like
Mar 21 22:20:54 <unbalanced>	mircea_popescu, I read your stuff (er, MPOE-PR's) about "you're not exceptional, get over yourself" or somesuch. Brilliant... and I had to agree. I'd come to that realization already tho.
Mar 21 22:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	you're a vanishing minority.
Mar 21 22:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	dub then why are you surcharging buddies
Mar 21 22:22:06 <dub>	cause they will ask what my end is and think its wierd there isnt one
Mar 21 22:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	this bitcoin surge is pretty cool in that it drives people back to btc. this person invested in mpoe on the first round (feb 2012)
Mar 21 22:22:31 <mircea_popescu>	then made a mpex acct back then, had shares transfgerred there
Mar 21 22:22:34 <mircea_popescu>	divs accumulating
Mar 21 22:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	today is like hey... is my stuff still there ?!
Mar 21 22:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like sure... all the many thousand dollars' worth of it
Mar 21 22:23:19 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: 30 day oix :D
Mar 21 22:23:34 <mircea_popescu>	smickles it'd be shit tho casue it'd mix across opex lines i think
Mar 21 22:23:37 <dub>	I guess .5 or 1% would be ok
Mar 21 22:23:47 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: fine, 25 day
Mar 21 22:24:13 <smickles>	i feel it'd be an indicator of how well mpoebot is doing
Mar 21 22:24:20 <mircea_popescu>	smickles if you think about it, 1 week oix is across lines for 12 days out of 30
Mar 21 22:24:38 <smickles>	bah, i only want it for this in the last week
Mar 21 22:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	im sorry. 6 not 12
Mar 21 22:25:07 <smickles>	otherwise, the 7day is just fine
Mar 21 22:25:16 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 21 22:25:17 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 55.42906834 high: 57.60574549 low: 51.19305144 volume: 14257 btc: 1202.67534357 30 day: no data
Mar 21 22:25:31 <smickles>	55
Mar 21 22:25:52 <smickles>	fer srs
Mar 21 22:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't think much of the rally lately does it.
Mar 21 22:26:58 <smickles>	that implies that there's a lot of getting fucked about to happen if the price holds
Mar 21 22:28:34 <mircea_popescu>	not necessarily
Mar 21 22:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	if someone bought calls when the price was 40 implying 50 they're golden
Mar 21 22:29:10 <smickles>	aw, that's no fun, and should reread how that's calculated
Mar 21 22:29:26 <smickles>	inser 'I' somewhere in there
Mar 21 22:30:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.3987 = 8.7714 BTC [-]
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Mar 21 22:31:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.3987 = 1.5948 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:31:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3987 = 19.935 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:32:43 <NOTAL>	!help
Mar 21 22:32:43 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 21 22:32:44 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
Mar 21 22:32:45 <assbot>	!last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
Mar 21 22:32:46 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 21 22:32:47 <assbot>	!rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
Mar 21 22:32:48 <assbot>	!exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
Mar 21 22:32:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 200 @ 0.3987 = 79.74 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:32:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3987 = 19.935 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:33:52 <NOTAL>	!last
Mar 21 22:33:52 <assbot>	Are you sure you have no tobacco?
Mar 21 22:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	hello notal
Mar 21 22:34:14 <NOTAL>	hello
Mar 21 22:34:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-21/us-begins-regulating-bitcoin-will-consider-virtual-transactions-money-laundering << basically zerohedge is the new zeroclue ?
Mar 21 22:34:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3987 = 3.1896 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:34:43 <smickles>	!last m s.mpoe
Mar 21 22:34:44 <assbot>	Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00072101 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:34:56 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: yeah
Mar 21 22:35:26 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155098.msg1656127#msg1656127 o boy watch the silver butthurt nao.
Mar 21 22:36:10 <smickles>	https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s0d-GHe6W8o/UUocFG_0D_I/AAAAAAAAHbg/4PysJZ5-vwU/s648/Dont-Steal-The-government-hates-competition1.jpg < /me lold
Mar 21 22:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 21 22:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.445 = 1.78 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:39:44 <mod6>	smickles: i've always had a special place in my heart for anyone who sports that bumper sticker
Mar 21 22:40:14 <mod6>	don't see it very often, but when I do, i smile :)
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Mar 21 22:40:27 <smickles>	this is the first i've seen it
Mar 21 22:40:31 <smickles>	i want one
Mar 21 22:40:37 <mod6>	oh its an oldie but goodie
Mar 21 22:40:49 <mod6>	and pretty rare to see. gotta love it.
Mar 21 22:40:51 <dub>	you'll find it right next to a confederate flag sticker
Mar 21 22:40:58 <mod6>	naw
Mar 21 22:41:05 <dub>	the driver will be chewing tobacco
Mar 21 22:41:08 <unbalanced>	it's a good'n
Mar 21 22:41:08 <mod6>	those people are nitwits
Mar 21 22:41:19 *	unbalanced is now known as unbalanced_away
Mar 21 22:41:25 <smickles>	maybe you'll see hoffman's 'steal this book' above it in the window
Mar 21 22:41:35 <smickles>	or on a seat in the car
Mar 21 22:42:17 <smickles>	or mitnicks 'the art of deception'
Mar 21 22:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	i think dub is a leftie
Mar 21 22:43:02 <smickles>	naw, he's just a yankee carpet-bagger
Mar 21 22:43:07 <smickles>	;)
Mar 21 22:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 21 22:43:31 <dub>	leftie, greenie, nigger.. choose your favorite reason to hate
Mar 21 22:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	what, you're black !?
Mar 21 22:43:46 <kakobrekla>	greenie?
Mar 21 22:43:52 <dub>	not black per se
Mar 21 22:43:56 <mod6>	(green party)
Mar 21 22:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	i just hate you cause you're a sociopath that's all
Mar 21 22:44:14 <smickles>	oh, i get it, dub is al rhoker
Mar 21 22:44:19 <mod6>	HA
Mar 21 22:44:54 <Bowjob>	guys, it started
Mar 21 22:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 21 22:44:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.31111, Best ask: 72.40795, Bid-ask spread: 0.09684, Last trade: 72.50000, 24 hour volume: 92454.90765557, 24 hour low: 63.10100, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 69.55651
Mar 21 22:45:00 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 21 22:45:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.31111, Best ask: 72.40795, Bid-ask spread: 0.09684, Last trade: 72.50000, 24 hour volume: 92454.90765557, 24 hour low: 63.10100, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 69.55651
Mar 21 22:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	ha!
Mar 21 22:45:05 <Bowjob>	hyper inflation is happening
Mar 21 22:45:06 <Bowjob>	http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002INQ074/ie=UTF8&qid=1363919668
Mar 21 22:45:07 <Bowjob>	!!
Mar 21 22:45:13 <kakobrekla>	btc is stable now.
Mar 21 22:45:21 <smickles>	lol
Mar 21 22:45:27 <Bowjob>	im a ..
Mar 21 22:45:30 <mod6>	oh wow
Mar 21 22:45:35 <Bowjob>	fuck i dont know whats next after trillion
Mar 21 22:45:40 <Bowjob>	quadrillion, right
Mar 21 22:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, am i the only one amused at the circumstance that the silly left has vanquished all hatespeech, they don't hate niggers, spics or spans anymore
Mar 21 22:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	they just hate sociopaths and that's all ?
Mar 21 22:46:18 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: and smokers
Mar 21 22:46:20 <mod6>	haha, yeah the left used to be the ones with the white hoods on
Mar 21 22:46:25 <mircea_popescu>	smickles smokers are sociopaths
Mar 21 22:46:32 <smickles>	D:
Mar 21 22:46:40 <mod6>	the old-south democrats
Mar 21 22:46:46 <Namworld>	Is it me or everyone are sociopaths nowadays?
Mar 21 22:46:48 <mod6>	dixie-crats or whatever
Mar 21 22:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	that's the great progrss here : by detaching nigger-ness from skin color, slovenly-sluttyness from cuntal lips and everything from everything else
Mar 21 22:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	you can build a construct of pure evil
Mar 21 22:47:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3987 = 0.7974 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	and live under the impression that while you walk the earth with the retarded brain of the spanish faithful cca 1500
Mar 21 22:47:21 <mircea_popescu>	still progress has occured
Mar 21 22:48:22 <ThickAsThieves>	you forgot the one thing the left hates most
Mar 21 22:48:26 <ThickAsThieves>	the right
Mar 21 22:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	ya but those are mostly sociopaths anyway
Mar 21 22:48:47 <ThickAsThieves>	these days for sure
Mar 21 22:48:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3987 = 19.935 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:49:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3987 = 0.7974 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:51:06 <mod6>	(19:46) < smickles> mircea_popescu: and smokers << this is ironic as obama is a smoker
Mar 21 22:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	don't be racist.
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Mar 21 22:53:14 <mod6>	wat
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Mar 21 22:54:06 <dub>	dammit people wanting me to be useful on a firday
Mar 21 22:54:10 <dub>	friday*
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Mar 21 22:54:54 <dub>	so yeah; left, green, black and according to some silly chart linked here the other day, in the 1%
Mar 21 22:56:36 <dub>	thats gotta put a few 'muricans into therapy rite?
Mar 21 22:57:40 <dub>	oh and I'm fine with paying >50% tax and geting free healthcare for it
Mar 21 22:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	how come ?
Mar 21 22:58:09 <dub>	because tax is good
Mar 21 22:58:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3987 = 7.974 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 21 22:58:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3987 = 0.7974 BTC [-]
Mar 21 22:58:21 <dub>	the state provides for me, so I provide for them
Mar 21 22:58:34 <mircea_popescu>	you're evil.
Mar 21 22:58:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 16 @ 0.00486 = 0.0778 BTC [+]
Mar 21 22:58:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.00486 = 0.0194 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/295/btc-usd-will-top-68-in-2013/
Mar 21 23:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	whodda thunk it, seriously now
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Mar 21 23:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3976 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1 @ 0.05328501 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:07:52 <kakobrekla>	http://imgur.com/1CR7ez0
Mar 21 23:08:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3976 = 9.94 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol invest in gold!
Mar 21 23:09:05 <mircea_popescu>	incredible similarity
Mar 21 23:09:22 <dub>	...
Mar 21 23:09:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3976 = 3.1808 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:10:07 <tiberiusiv>	large ask wall and a weakening bid
Mar 21 23:10:19 <dub>	has to be reptilian manipulation
Mar 21 23:10:37 <mod6>	wow
Mar 21 23:10:48 <tiberiusiv>	bet we go into low 60's by tomorrow
Mar 21 23:10:56 <mod6>	;;bids 60
Mar 21 23:10:56 <gribble>	There are currently 20145.971 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.0 USD, worth 1315049.984 USD in total. | Data vintage: 74.7298 seconds
Mar 21 23:10:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 75 @ 0.3976 = 29.82 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:11:16 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 75
Mar 21 23:11:16 <gribble>	There are currently 17615.611 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 1308515.06392 USD in total. | Data vintage: 95.0453 seconds
Mar 21 23:11:59 <kakobrekla>	the wall,
Mar 21 23:12:02 <kakobrekla>	it is fake.
Mar 21 23:12:14 <smickles>	http://i.imgur.com/Won93wr.png
Mar 21 23:12:21 <tiberiusiv>	how can you tell kako
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Mar 21 23:12:52 <kakobrekla>	you can judge by the sound if you knock on it
Mar 21 23:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	he has the hat.
Mar 21 23:15:58 <mod6>	(19:58) < dub> because tax is good << trolololo?
Mar 21 23:18:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.35497416 = 354.9742 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	hmm calls closing ?
Mar 21 23:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	could this be the end of the climb ?
Mar 21 23:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.137451 = 0.2749 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:20:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.16907668 = 168.7385 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:21:58 <kakobrekla>	a weekend timeout perhaps
Mar 21 23:22:01 <smickles>	;;calc 75/1.13745
Mar 21 23:22:02 <gribble>	65.9369642622
Mar 21 23:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	a the weekend is coming huh
Mar 21 23:22:28 <smickles>	that's a lot of beer money
Mar 21 23:23:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.35516019 = 355.1602 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:25:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3914 = 0.7828 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C450T
Mar 21 23:26:01 <mircea_popescu>	indeed that is how profits look
Mar 21 23:26:42 <smickles>	woah
Mar 21 23:27:34 <dub>	mod6: I recognise the need for governance over human society and an happy to support it
Mar 21 23:28:24 <dub>	we're just too shit as individuals to make it work
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Mar 21 23:29:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3914 = 0.7828 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:29:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3914 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:29:48 <smickles>	hmm, what does it mean if gov't is made up of individuals?
Mar 21 23:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.44000002 = 1.76 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.44000001 = 3.96 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:30:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.44 = 3.08 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:30:25 <dub>	its hopefully not, they act under rules decided by majority
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Mar 21 23:30:43 <smickles>	ah, so mob rule
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Mar 21 23:30:56 <dub>	yeah or democracy, whatever you want to call it
Mar 21 23:31:29 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 21 23:31:30 <gribble>	3.387687 seconds
Mar 21 23:31:46 <benkay>	how exactly is goxlag calculated?
Mar 21 23:31:51 <smickles>	are there any democracies in the world
Mar 21 23:31:53 <smickles>	?
Mar 21 23:32:14 <smickles>	i was under the impression that most 'democracies' are actually republics
Mar 21 23:32:46 <smickles>	http://i.imgur.com/X22bRY2.gif wowzer
Mar 21 23:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.35534611 = 355.3461 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:34:12 <dub>	the method of governance is what im interested in, not an arbitrary label but I think no?
Mar 21 23:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	ahh, i nearly forgot. the moment i've long awaited :
Mar 21 23:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 21 23:34:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069171 / 0.0007234 / 0.00074208 (363544 shares, 262.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00066743 / 0.00072074 / 0.00077505 (3180083 shares, 2,292.02 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00070767 / 0.00078628 (37489099 shares, 26,529.98 BTC)
Mar 21 23:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 21 23:34:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.40000, Best ask: 73.54000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 73.54000, 24 hour volume: 92626.33775863, 24 hour low: 63.10100, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 69.81455
Mar 21 23:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  0.00070767 * 1000000000 *  69.81455
Mar 21 23:34:52 <gribble>	49405662.5985
Mar 21 23:34:55 <mircea_popescu>	fuck
Mar 21 23:34:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.3909 = 8.9907 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:34:57 <mircea_popescu>	still under -.-
Mar 21 23:34:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3909 = 9.7725 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:35:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.3909 = 4.6908 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:35:26 <benkay>	haha
Mar 21 23:35:27 <benkay>	damn dude
Mar 21 23:35:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 45 @ 0.3909 = 17.5905 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	dub this majority rule thing is no panacea
Mar 21 23:36:08 <dub>	democracy is when people vote for politicians who in turn vote, in accordance their constituancies wishes, on propsed pieces of legistaltion
Mar 21 23:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. and the fate of democracy is for those politicians to observe that they can squander othe people's money.
Mar 21 23:36:40 <smickles>	dub: that's a republic
Mar 21 23:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	at which point the show ends.
Mar 21 23:36:52 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/gallery/lrHmx
Mar 21 23:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	i dig the skittles one
Mar 21 23:37:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 35 @ 0.3909 = 13.6815 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:37:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 153 @ 0.3909 = 59.8077 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:38:02 <dub>	smickles: maybe according to your schooling
Mar 21 23:38:42 <smickles>	how strange, it also resembles what plato described
Mar 21 23:39:02 <mircea_popescu>	traditionally the republic is the place where the laws prevail
Mar 21 23:39:09 <mircea_popescu>	democracy is where the will of the mob prevails.
Mar 21 23:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much everyone agrees democracy = disaster, as in, wrose than tyrrany
Mar 21 23:39:25 <dub>	how do laws get created
Mar 21 23:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	with the unnotable exception of contemporary authors.
Mar 21 23:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	dub they don't, basically.
Mar 21 23:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	in the classical republic the laws were "always there". some mystical origin or whatever.
Mar 21 23:40:29 <smickles>	convince the soldiers they came from the land
Mar 21 23:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	the idea of a state without the power to legislate is quite appealing, actually. pretty much the onl;y way "the state" can work is if it can make no laws and raise no taxes.
Mar 21 23:40:47 <dub>	well I guess my outlook is more grounded in reality that whimsical language of philosophy
Mar 21 23:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	dub another way to say this would be that your outlook is more grounded in fashion and ignorance than literacy.
Mar 21 23:41:13 <mod6>	it wasn't whimsical to the authors of the constitution and the bill of rights.
Mar 21 23:41:14 <dub>	could be
Mar 21 23:41:33 <dub>	well the bill of rights is a bit of a joke
Mar 21 23:41:39 <dub>	to ~muricans anyway
Mar 21 23:41:44 <dub>	!muricans
Mar 21 23:41:47 <smickles>	in the republic, the laws come from the senators
Mar 21 23:42:28 <dub>	the right to wholesale slaughter each other because you are scared fo the govt you elected
Mar 21 23:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	smickles is an entire "law of men / law of gods" issue there
Mar 21 23:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	city ordinances came from senators
Mar 21 23:42:53 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 103 @ 0.3909 = 40.2627 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	but nobody had the authority to ban smoking, or invent pedophilia as an offense
Mar 21 23:43:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.3909 = 1.5636 BTC [-]
Mar 21 23:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.38439702 = 384.397 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:43:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.35562479 = 355.6248 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:43:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.41316925 = 413.1693 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:43:35 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: the idea was to make the laws in accordance with what the gods wanted, which was decided upon by debate
Mar 21 23:43:43 <dub>	so in general if you have kids you don't want them getting fucked until they are old enough to decide who they want to fuck
Mar 21 23:43:46 <smickles>	sounds like 'merica to me
Mar 21 23:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	dub i didn't pick that example by accident. it was pretty much the largest civil issue in greece.
Mar 21 23:44:16 <dub>	unfortunately there are old people around that would liek to fuck your kids
Mar 21 23:44:21 <mircea_popescu>	largely unresolved by the fall of athens
Mar 21 23:44:30 <dub>	so in order to protect your kids you propose a law against fucking them
Mar 21 23:44:51 <dub>	you gather support for this law and if enough people agree it becomes one
Mar 21 23:44:53 <mircea_popescu>	towards the mid phase they had invented the habit of putting gold on the kid's necks
Mar 21 23:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	as a show that if you fuck this one his daddy's prolly gonna have your arse.
Mar 21 23:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	kinda how that entire locket tradition got started.
Mar 21 23:45:58 <dub>	smickles reminded me of another hilarity of american constitution, that God started it all
Mar 21 23:46:07 <mircea_popescu>	that's universal tho
Mar 21 23:46:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3914 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:46:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3914 = 7.828 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:46:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3914 = 7.828 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:46:51 <dub>	its not
Mar 21 23:47:03 <tiberiusiv>	man was given the burden of freedom
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Mar 21 23:47:11 <tiberiusiv>	nothing false about that
Mar 21 23:47:22 <mircea_popescu>	what political system is not at some point claiming some metaphysical entrenchment ?
Mar 21 23:47:30 <dub>	your president talks about god giving you rights regularly, we lock people like this up
Mar 21 23:47:43 <dub>	because thats crazy talk
Mar 21 23:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	i think this is largely a semantic issue.
Mar 21 23:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46799999 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:48:03 <tiberiusiv>	your rights are god given hence natural
Mar 21 23:48:09 <tiberiusiv>	they do not come from government or other men
Mar 21 23:48:22 <mircea_popescu>	there's not much difference between claiming god gave you some right or you just have some right or you gave it yourself or whatever else.
Mar 21 23:48:41 <dub>	politicians here go to great lenghts to disguise any religious leaning as it would be political suicide
Mar 21 23:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	there's never going to be a "proper" font of rights, and consequently any statement as to their origin is pretty much the same thing.
Mar 21 23:48:54 <tiberiusiv>	dub first off most people never agree to a law
Mar 21 23:48:57 <dub>	aside from some marginal bottom feeders
Mar 21 23:49:01 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: "Hello? This is dog. I'm stuck in 1935. Send help" http://i.imgur.com/apaveS3.jpg
Mar 21 23:49:10 <tiberiusiv>	dub: where are you from?
Mar 21 23:49:12 <mircea_popescu>	awww!
Mar 21 23:49:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 187 @ 0.3914 = 73.1918 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:49:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3914 = 9.785 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:49:53 <dub>	tiberiusiv: that is not important
Mar 21 23:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	he's from like vassar or some shit.
Mar 21 23:50:12 <Namworld>	Well VTX is almost all gone already
Mar 21 23:50:34 <smickles>	http://i.imgur.com/P7CFkG5.png
Mar 21 23:50:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.41325384 = 413.2538 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:50:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.38448574 = 384.4857 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:50:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.35571763 = 355.7176 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	shame on Namworld trolling us with finance talk in this chan
Mar 21 23:50:47 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: alot of idiot bitcoiners are dropping out from missallocating their BTCs
Mar 21 23:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv you quoting the girl ? :D
Mar 21 23:51:01 <tiberiusiv>	into unpayable loan schemes, asics etc
Mar 21 23:51:41 <Namworld>	I'm watching VTX
Mar 21 23:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	did you buy any ?
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Mar 21 23:52:33 <Namworld>	A little bit. It's from my country so... I though I could support a bit. Not so many canadian bitcoiners yet. But fees on cavirtex are high.
Mar 21 23:52:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3914 = 1.1742 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:52:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3914 = 7.828 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:53:07 <Namworld>	I use cavirtex to buy/cash out BTC as needed.
Mar 21 23:53:10 <Namworld>	already
Mar 21 23:53:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3914 = 3.1312 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:53:26 <mircea_popescu>	a makes sense to own a little then
Mar 21 23:53:29 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: cavirtex fees are comparable to anywhere else
Mar 21 23:53:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.3914 = 4.6968 BTC [+]
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Mar 21 23:53:44 <Namworld>	3%, vs MtGox 0.6%
Mar 21 23:53:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 63 @ 0.3914 = 24.6582 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:54:06 <Namworld>	coinbase 1% I think...
Mar 21 23:54:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3914 = 1.1742 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:54:44 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: mtgox doesnt let you withdraw with bank drafts, email money, direct deposit
Mar 21 23:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	well it's only 3% if you do 100 btc
Mar 21 23:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise like .5
Mar 21 23:54:53 <tiberiusiv>	cavirtex can give you 30k in under 24hrs
Mar 21 23:55:07 <tiberiusiv>	cavirtex is extremely fast in cashing out
Mar 21 23:55:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 71 @ 0.3914 = 27.7894 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv in fairness, that's prolly because they're not much used so they don't opverrun their limits
Mar 21 23:55:20 <Namworld>	With discounts for very large volumes, it works down to as low as 0.5% but you have to trade 2500+ within the last 120 days
Mar 21 23:55:29 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: there are no capital limits in canada
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Mar 21 23:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	that'll have to be verified in practice before i take it too seriously.
Mar 21 23:55:50 <Namworld>	I love Canada
Mar 21 23:55:50 <mod6>	NO LIMIT
Mar 21 23:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, it's quite clear that mtgox is dead by now.
Mar 21 23:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	back when they were just bleeding market share it seemed like it's temporary
Mar 21 23:56:29 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: canadian regulators tend to be 40 years behind anything
Mar 21 23:56:40 <Namworld>	That's true.
Mar 21 23:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	but by now sealed deal. so probably the top 5 or top 10 stand to gain nicely.
Mar 21 23:56:50 <tiberiusiv>	you realize canada is like the financial crime center of the world
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Mar 21 23:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv russia is.
Mar 21 23:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.3914 = 2.7398 BTC [+]
Mar 21 23:57:08 <mod6>	i thought it was London
Mar 21 23:57:11 <Namworld>	I think Russia beats Canada, yeah
Mar 21 23:57:16 <tiberiusiv>	100mil ponzi scheme is like 3 years prison in canada
Mar 21 23:57:18 <tiberiusiv>	its life in russia
Mar 21 23:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	no it's not.
Mar 21 23:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	it's free police guards in russia.
Mar 21 23:57:40 <tiberiusiv>	yes i guess that is true
Mar 21 23:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	now on the other hand not payingyour taxes...
Mar 21 23:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	they don;t like that.
Mar 21 23:58:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3914 = 1.1742 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:00:35 <smickles>	What's like making love in a canoe?
Mar 22 00:00:49 <tiberiusiv>	russia taxes are low
Mar 22 00:00:52 <tiberiusiv>	like 10% on income
Mar 22 00:01:07 <mod6>	usa used to be like that
Mar 22 00:01:17 <mod6>	now they just rape you over and over
Mar 22 00:01:42 <tiberiusiv>	US was like 5% on ultra high net worths
Mar 22 00:01:43 <mod6>	EVERYWHICH WAY FROM SUNDAY POSSIBLE
Mar 22 00:01:51 <tiberiusiv>	and 0 in the golden age
Mar 22 00:01:54 <dub>	why don't you leave?
Mar 22 00:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv there's official + unopfficial
Mar 22 00:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	you're better off paying the latter
Mar 22 00:02:11 <dub>	I know a few wealthy people who upped and GTFO
Mar 22 00:02:18 <dub>	mainly due to death tax
Mar 22 00:02:23 <tiberiusiv>	leaving the US makes no sense for wealthy
Mar 22 00:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	dub im paying something like 3.9% if you count it all.
Mar 22 00:02:33 <tiberiusiv>	they have to renounce citizenship and pay an exit tax
Mar 22 00:02:38 <smickles>	American beer, know why?
Mar 22 00:02:41 <mod6>	well, im not in the category. im in the "unwashed masses" category, as mp calls it.
Mar 22 00:02:50 <dub>	american beer is terrible
Mar 22 00:02:52 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 im sure you wash.
Mar 22 00:02:54 <dub>	ask anyone
Mar 22 00:02:56 <tiberiusiv>	second off, where would a wealthy american really leave too?
Mar 22 00:02:59 <smickles>	it's fucking close to water
Mar 22 00:02:59 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: hehe, i do :)
Mar 22 00:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3949 = 0.7898 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:03:05 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv romania.
Mar 22 00:03:06 <tiberiusiv>	options are limited
Mar 22 00:03:19 <tiberiusiv>	dude 80% of romania is a dump
Mar 22 00:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Mar 22 00:03:36 <mod6>	well, who cares, maybe it wont be if they adopt btc
Mar 22 00:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	80% of the us is a dump too, what criteria is this
Mar 22 00:03:45 <tiberiusiv>	its dangerous to be a wealthy none native
Mar 22 00:03:45 <smickles>	most of earth's surface is water, but i still like living here
Mar 22 00:03:58 <jcpham>	i want to die on mars secretly
Mar 22 00:04:02 <tiberiusiv>	US has large diversity to pick from and same language
Mar 22 00:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv ya well being stupid and rich is dangerous everywhere.
Mar 22 00:04:20 <tiberiusiv>	romania also has a high sales tax and income tax
Mar 22 00:04:24 <smickles>	given the chance to live in shit conditions on mars, i would do it
Mar 22 00:04:35 <tiberiusiv>	consumer goods are very expensive in RO compared to US
Mar 22 00:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	are you serious ?
Mar 22 00:05:05 <tiberiusiv>	yes. im talking about imported goods
Mar 22 00:05:06 <dub>	this may shock you, but I only have one television
Mar 22 00:05:08 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 22 00:05:14 <mod6>	here i just saw a kid pay $3.50 for a can of altoids
Mar 22 00:05:18 <dub>	and its like 36"
Mar 22 00:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	to get a good car in the us you have to ship it from yurp
Mar 22 00:05:19 <mod6>	i nearly fell over
Mar 22 00:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	it's about half price in romania
Mar 22 00:05:29 <tiberiusiv>	not imports
Mar 22 00:05:36 <tiberiusiv>	high end cars, electronics etc
Mar 22 00:05:39 <tiberiusiv>	are not half price in romania
Mar 22 00:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	china is closer to romania than to the us you know
Mar 22 00:05:54 <tiberiusiv>	theres a 23% consumption tax alone
Mar 22 00:06:08 <tiberiusiv>	that means nothing, romania doesnt even have a developed transport network to move goods around
Mar 22 00:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	there's vat, but you apply it on lower basis and get much better stuff for your money.
Mar 22 00:06:19 <tiberiusiv>	you realize german cars are cheaper in the US then in germany?
Mar 22 00:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	you're approaching the problems of infrastructure as if you're a salaried peon.
Mar 22 00:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	i thought we were discussing the ultrarich here.
Mar 22 00:06:47 <tiberiusiv>	ultrarich live great in the US
Mar 22 00:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv yes, they're cheaper inasmuch as they're made in jersey, and thus only german by name.
Mar 22 00:06:56 <tiberiusiv>	gated off islands, huge estates in cali
Mar 22 00:07:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.3949 = 2.7643 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 00:07:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.35636677 = 356.3668 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:07:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4214 @ 0.00072101 = 3.0383 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 00:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	if you think a gated off island is a great way to live i guess we see things too differently to discuss this productively.
Mar 22 00:07:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5754 @ 0.0007046 = 4.0543 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:08:01 <tiberiusiv>	you can safely drive around a ferrari in 70% of the US
Mar 22 00:08:02 <dub>	^
Mar 22 00:08:04 <tiberiusiv>	the same is not true for romania
Mar 22 00:08:13 <mircea_popescu>	how would you know that ?!
Mar 22 00:08:21 <tiberiusiv>	my friends from there
Mar 22 00:08:23 <dub>	movies
Mar 22 00:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	they may be talking a lot of shit.
Mar 22 00:08:28 <tiberiusiv>	thats how i knew about your city
Mar 22 00:08:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 33 @ 0.3949 = 13.0317 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:08:41 <tiberiusiv>	timisoara is a wealthy region for romania
Mar 22 00:08:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 22 00:08:53 <tiberiusiv>	its more sophisticated too
Mar 22 00:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	or so they like to think
Mar 22 00:09:02 <tiberiusiv>	the rest of the place has high  levels of poverty
Mar 22 00:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	not really the case, but anyway
Mar 22 00:09:10 <mircea_popescu>	so does detroit. wtf.
Mar 22 00:09:36 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: an ultra rich american has no real incentive to leave the US
Mar 22 00:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	on one hand you're telling me about these elusive cali estates (0.001% of us)
Mar 22 00:09:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.3949 = 6.3184 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:09:55 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand you impugn imaginary problems with romania on the grounds that it's not all level
Mar 22 00:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv yes, he does.
Mar 22 00:10:11 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: tell me what the ultra rich is gaining leaving the US?
Mar 22 00:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	or else all the ones i know dropping it since 2005 or so are silly.
Mar 22 00:10:16 <Namworld>	tiberius has hard set views about how people lives in various place of the world and living costs.
Mar 22 00:10:21 <mod6>	tiberiusiv: there are lots of super rich people here who renounce their citizenship and leave for a tax-haven like the bahamas or whatever.
Mar 22 00:10:34 <tiberiusiv>	dude bahamas you cannot own GOODS
Mar 22 00:10:39 <tiberiusiv>	they have duties of like 500%
Mar 22 00:10:41 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv the problem with the us is that it contains ~200mn unskilled, hungry, entitled doods.
Mar 22 00:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	you don't want to be aroundwhen shtf.
Mar 22 00:10:50 <dub>	an interesting thing about americans is how few of them travel
Mar 22 00:11:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 33 @ 0.3949 = 13.0317 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:11:25 <tiberiusiv>	mod6: renouncing your citizenship to sit in the bahmas only makes sense if 100% of your income comes from capital gains
Mar 22 00:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	let me put it in the following perspective : american guy making 1300 usd a month (mostly govt aid, he doesn't work for it) is  sitting around listening to angry music and glaring at passerbys because "he's been cheated".
Mar 22 00:11:39 <tiberiusiv>	dividend income is still withheld from 99% of countries by up to 30%
Mar 22 00:11:48 <mod6>	tiberiusiv: maybe the bahamas was a bad example. im not rich enough to know better really.
Mar 22 00:11:52 <mod6>	i couldn't care less.
Mar 22 00:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	romanian guy making ~500 usd a month is going out and fixing the park benches in his spare time with his own tools.
Mar 22 00:12:24 <mircea_popescu>	nobody rich wants to hang around with idiots.
Mar 22 00:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	that's the incentive.
Mar 22 00:12:30 <tiberiusiv>	micrea: romanian government is too poor to run an effective welfare state
Mar 22 00:12:37 <tiberiusiv>	they dont in the US
Mar 22 00:12:43 <tiberiusiv>	thats why they all live in guarded and secluded areas
Mar 22 00:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	right. seclusion sucks.
Mar 22 00:12:53 <tiberiusiv>	the ultra rich dont mingle with the commoners lol
Mar 22 00:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	better off move to somewhere where the idiots are still kept at a low roar by the traditional means of stepping on head.
Mar 22 00:13:32 <tiberiusiv>	listen youd need to hire an army of security personal in romania
Mar 22 00:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.41384528 = 413.8453 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.38510602 = 385.106 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:13:47 <tiberiusiv>	theres a reason romanians have a bad reputation throughout the EU
Mar 22 00:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny, cause i'm over here and you're over there.
Mar 22 00:13:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.35636677 = 356.3668 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:13:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3949 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	yet you're definitively telling me shit ?!
Mar 22 00:14:04 <tiberiusiv>	if anyone got a whiff of your wealth youd kidnapped
Mar 22 00:14:13 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: you can blend in
Mar 22 00:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Mar 22 00:14:18 <tiberiusiv>	you are a native speaker
Mar 22 00:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	listen, there's plenty of rich people. everybody knows.
Mar 22 00:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	there hasn't been a kidnapping in romania since i dunno, years ago.
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Mar 22 00:14:38 <tiberiusiv>	yes romanians
Mar 22 00:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	no dude. italians, germans
Mar 22 00:14:48 <mircea_popescu>	take your pick.
Mar 22 00:14:50 <tiberiusiv>	hardened by 70 years of communism and system manipulation
Mar 22 00:14:57 <tiberiusiv>	that nobody fucks with
Mar 22 00:15:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4679999 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	i think you're basically caught in a novel
Mar 22 00:15:22 <smickles>	face it mircea, your country sucks
Mar 22 00:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 22 00:15:28 <tiberiusiv>	you still didnt tell me any incentive that romania offers
Mar 22 00:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	it sucks, but not for the reasons he thinks
Mar 22 00:15:42 <tiberiusiv>	why would i move to a place that charges me 23% to buy products?
Mar 22 00:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	i told you about a dozen, but somehow it doesn't stick.
Mar 22 00:15:57 <mircea_popescu>	because you'd rather pay 1.23 dollars for a pound of excellent cheese
Mar 22 00:16:01 <jcpham>	it sucks because he's alienated and alone
Mar 22 00:16:02 <tiberiusiv>	so i pay a 23% premium to watch a poor guy paint a park bench
Mar 22 00:16:03 <jcpham>	no peers
Mar 22 00:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	than 6.50 for a pound of whatever you have there.
Mar 22 00:16:15 <jcpham>	all he has a re hot women
Mar 22 00:16:21 <jcpham>	and it is so boring
Mar 22 00:16:23 <tiberiusiv>	yes but a car costs 50% more
Mar 22 00:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Mar 22 00:16:27 <benkay>	wat
Mar 22 00:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	a car actually costs ~30% less.
Mar 22 00:16:35 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: compare new car prices
Mar 22 00:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	(than europe. prolly 50% less than the us)
Mar 22 00:16:42 <tiberiusiv>	what the dacia? lol
Mar 22 00:16:50 <tiberiusiv>	dude that is pure bs
Mar 22 00:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	next he's gonna tell me that a limited series lamborghini costs the same everywhere ;/
Mar 22 00:17:46 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.mercedes-benz.ro/content/romania/mpc/mpc_romania_website/rong/home_mpc/passengercars/home/new_cars/models/e-class/_w212/configurator/configurator.html?tp_ccci=/dsc_ro/globalsessionid/DSC_ro3E2D3232336E3B7BFF333A6301020900/dsc_locale/ro_RO/appId/DSC_ro/siteLocale/ro_RO/P3501ViewBean.jam1%3bjsessionid=0000iBB1YEY0PeDNC29nXrqoZkJ:16pcreqrr#_int_passengercars:home:model-navi:configurator
Mar 22 00:18:03 <tiberiusiv>	E350 gasoline is 55400 euros in romania
Mar 22 00:18:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.3976 = 2.7832 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:19:01 <tiberiusiv>	in the united states its 51k USD
Mar 22 00:19:24 <smickles>	who pays list price for a car?
Mar 22 00:19:25 <tiberiusiv>	25k price difference
Mar 22 00:19:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.3976 = 3.1808 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:19:27 <tiberiusiv>	add even average US sales tax of 6%
Mar 22 00:19:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://mercedes.anunturi-auto.4tuning.ro/anunturi-auto/masini-second/mercedes-e-220-impecabila-11871957.html
Mar 22 00:19:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3976 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	6k euros.
Mar 22 00:19:48 <tiberiusiv>	the US is the cheapest consumer good market in the world
Mar 22 00:19:54 <tiberiusiv>	thats the benefit of reserve status
Mar 22 00:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	look, you wanna believe that, believe that.
Mar 22 00:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	i've been there, i've been here, itdoesn't figure like you think.
Mar 22 00:20:18 <tiberiusiv>	dude they dont even sell the 220 in the US
Mar 22 00:20:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1099 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:20:27 <tiberiusiv>	thats like what taxis drive in europe
Mar 22 00:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	yeah...
Mar 22 00:20:41 <tiberiusiv>	6k euros for a high mileage old benz?
Mar 22 00:20:48 <tiberiusiv>	BASE model?
Mar 22 00:20:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 97 @ 0.85888 = 83.3114 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	you've successfuly railroaded this discussion into perhaps the most irrelevant possible corner.
Mar 22 00:21:11 <tiberiusiv>	which you have to pay romanian road tax on
Mar 22 00:21:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.85889 = 17.1778 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:21:16 <tiberiusiv>	if your engine is too large
Mar 22 00:21:25 <jcpham>	twss
Mar 22 00:21:35 <tiberiusiv>	romania is cheaper only for basic staples
Mar 22 00:21:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3976 = 1.1928 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:21:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.85896 = 17.1792 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:21:40 <tiberiusiv>	ie rent, groceries
Mar 22 00:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	romania is cheaper for everything that matters, pretty much.
Mar 22 00:21:54 <tiberiusiv>	considering the average salary is 1/15th of the US
Mar 22 00:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	as in, you couldn't replicate what counts as a "normal" diet here in the us without 10k a month
Mar 22 00:22:20 <tiberiusiv>	well i agree to that
Mar 22 00:22:27 <tiberiusiv>	healthy food in north america is expensive
Mar 22 00:22:28 <mircea_popescu>	i happen top not care what cars cost mostly because i hire a driver with his car and gas for ~100 bux per day or some shit
Mar 22 00:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	i can keep three on call and not even notice it particularly.
Mar 22 00:22:52 <tiberiusiv>	100 per day im driving a ferrari in the US
Mar 22 00:22:58 <mircea_popescu>	im not driving.
Mar 22 00:22:58 <mod6>	no way
Mar 22 00:23:01 <tiberiusiv>	considering the monthly payments are 2500
Mar 22 00:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	he's driving.
Mar 22 00:23:11 <mod6>	not even a rental with the insurance
Mar 22 00:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	and waits for me and carries my bags and whatever the fuck else.
Mar 22 00:23:24 <tiberiusiv>	mod6: you can finance a ferrari in the US for 2-3k a month
Mar 22 00:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	basically you get a motorized butler.
Mar 22 00:23:39 <tiberiusiv>	what car is he showing up in?
Mar 22 00:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, whatever. you can actually demand a specific make, but i never cared.
Mar 22 00:24:05 <mod6>	wow. what a waste of money those high end cars are.
Mar 22 00:24:22 <tiberiusiv>	you know you can rent a brand new car in the US
Mar 22 00:24:26 <tiberiusiv>	for $20 a day
Mar 22 00:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 22 00:24:32 <mircea_popescu>	how much for the driver ?
Mar 22 00:24:33 <tiberiusiv>	and easily hire a driver for $60
Mar 22 00:24:39 <benkay>	bahaha
Mar 22 00:24:42 <tiberiusiv>	provided you give him the car
Mar 22 00:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	a day ?
Mar 22 00:24:53 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 22 00:25:04 <benkay>	less than ten dollars an hour
Mar 22 00:25:09 <mircea_popescu>	i think what happens here is that you're comparing things wrongly in the following sense :
Mar 22 00:25:10 <benkay>	for professional service
Mar 22 00:25:18 <tiberiusiv>	100 a day is alot
Mar 22 00:25:19 <benkay>	you are *out of your mind*
Mar 22 00:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	you probably get some deals over there and you take that as a basis. which isn't a basis.
Mar 22 00:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	then you imagine stuff here is book price, which it isn't.
Mar 22 00:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	this somehow comes out like it's 0.35% more here than there.
Mar 22 00:25:42 <mircea_popescu>	well... not the facts on the ground, no.
Mar 22 00:25:53 <tiberiusiv>	imported products(quality luxury items) are more expensive in RO then US
Mar 22 00:25:56 <tiberiusiv>	theres no comparison
Mar 22 00:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	i mean sure, while i was in ny i had free car service and two doods with shotguns
Mar 22 00:26:04 <tiberiusiv>	staples are agreeably cheaper
Mar 22 00:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't pay a cent, but that doesn't mean ny is free.
Mar 22 00:26:38 <tiberiusiv>	what about access to weapons?
Mar 22 00:26:47 <mircea_popescu>	what about it ?
Mar 22 00:26:59 <tiberiusiv>	with a drivers license i can be armed to the teeth in 1 day
Mar 22 00:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, and be shot by next morning.
Mar 22 00:27:14 <tiberiusiv>	in about 30% of the states
Mar 22 00:27:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3976 = 0.7952 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	in romania you'd take about a week to find someone with a working firearm.
Mar 22 00:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	the police don't get live rounds, they just carry the empty pistols around.
Mar 22 00:27:43 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 22 00:27:52 <tiberiusiv>	fuck off?
Mar 22 00:27:56 <mod6>	lol, thats almost as good as the japaneese police with their whistles.
Mar 22 00:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	i am serious.
Mar 22 00:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.41401404 = 414.014 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:28:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.38528302 = 385.283 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:28:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.356552 = 356.552 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:28:11 <tiberiusiv>	i agree US police are bad
Mar 22 00:28:17 <tiberiusiv>	kill you over speeding
Mar 22 00:28:18 <mod6>	DONT MAKE ME HIT YOU WITH THIS!
Mar 22 00:28:20 <mod6>	hahah
Mar 22 00:28:35 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 about a decade ago in the cluj airport i confiscated a chick's weapon
Mar 22 00:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	cause she was an idiot.
Mar 22 00:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	(they had just introduced females into the force at the time)
Mar 22 00:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	her boss was pissed (at her)
Mar 22 00:29:08 <tiberiusiv>	is the VTX ipo below offer price?
Mar 22 00:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	they run a strange dual book thing.
Mar 22 00:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	you gotta specifically buy from the ipo book
Mar 22 00:30:18 <mod6>	so you just were like, "you're not doing it right..." and just disarmed her?
Mar 22 00:30:19 <tiberiusiv>	cavirtex cashouts are extremely fast
Mar 22 00:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 she was not protecting her backside. i just went behind her, waited for like five seconds, then took her unsecured gun
Mar 22 00:30:42 <Namworld>	yeah, I like cavirtex
Mar 22 00:30:43 <mircea_popescu>	off her hip
Mar 22 00:30:49 <mod6>	LOL
Mar 22 00:30:51 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 22 00:30:53 <mod6>	bravo
Mar 22 00:31:00 <mod6>	no wonder the the CO was pissed
Mar 22 00:31:00 <tiberiusiv>	Share price: $30 CAD = 0.64 BTC5
Mar 22 00:31:05 <tiberiusiv>	ipo is at 0.39?
Mar 22 00:31:06 <mircea_popescu>	i was like wtf you numnuts, what if this was loaded and i wiped the floor with the lot of you nao
Mar 22 00:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 actually let me see if i can find this
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Mar 22 00:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/actualitate/video-incidente-inainte-de-meciul-steaua-dinamo-jandarmii-au-intervenit-in-forta.html
Mar 22 00:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	they lose the damned things all the time
Mar 22 00:32:43 <mod6>	nice
Mar 22 00:32:53 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: ultra rich americans tend to be either WASPs or jewish, and neither group likes to be around people much
Mar 22 00:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	title is "that awkward moment when a police guy loses his gun while handling arrests"
Mar 22 00:33:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3973 = 3.973 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:33:20 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv yeah well... i like being around people.
Mar 22 00:33:25 <tiberiusiv>	hence why they build their boarded up enclaves
Mar 22 00:33:33 <mircea_popescu>	it's an unsanitary way of life.
Mar 22 00:33:41 <tiberiusiv>	it is strange
Mar 22 00:33:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 99 @ 0.3973 = 39.3327 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 00:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... basically they're in prison. fuck that.
Mar 22 00:34:13 <tiberiusiv>	self imposed exile
Mar 22 00:34:17 *	mod6 is watching vid..
Mar 22 00:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	i'll go to anywhere i want and strike up a chat with anyone i want. pick up a street walker if i feel like it and go watch the game with her.
Mar 22 00:34:25 <tiberiusiv>	spend most of their days worrying about losing the wealth
Mar 22 00:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	no way to live.
Mar 22 00:34:47 <tiberiusiv>	lol that is never occuring in north america
Mar 22 00:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	yes well...
Mar 22 00:34:58 <tiberiusiv>	youd be arrested
Mar 22 00:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	i'll tell you, part of what i did in the us was this cross country by bus thing
Mar 22 00:35:14 <mircea_popescu>	let me find this article
Mar 22 00:35:18 <mircea_popescu>	cause it's a funny story.
Mar 22 00:35:46 <tiberiusiv>	americans are approachable but its mostly a business type relationship
Mar 22 00:36:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/are-you-a-muslim/
Mar 22 00:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	it's in romanian, if gt fails horribly i guess i'll have to translate it myself.
Mar 22 00:36:56 <smickles>	i'll say american area approachable, go up to one on thier porch with a smile and a friendly greeting in the dark of night, 3/5 times i get a beer doing that
Mar 22 00:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	<tiberiusiv> youd be arrested << what i did earlier today was take a chick along for a nude stroll down the riverwalk.
Mar 22 00:37:05 <smickles>	*americans are
Mar 22 00:37:19 <dub>	did he try to sell any idiot being able to arm themselves to the teeth instantaneously as a good thing?
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Mar 22 00:38:49 <mod6>	(21:34) < mircea_popescu> i'll go to anywhere i want and strike up a chat with anyone i want. pick up a street walker if i feel like it and go watch the game with her. << the sign of a true travel bug
Mar 22 00:39:06 <mod6>	its awesome to go new places and just chat up random people
Mar 22 00:39:36 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 when i landed in costa rica i didn't speak spanish.
Mar 22 00:39:54 <mircea_popescu>	i went to the local uni, found the english dept, picked up a chick wirth nice hooters
Mar 22 00:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	she got me an apt (for reasonable rent, causer it helps if you're local obviously)
Mar 22 00:40:34 <mod6>	nice :)
Mar 22 00:40:49 <mod6>	its a good way to learn the lang and exp the culture.. just immerse yourself.
Mar 22 00:40:49 <tiberiusiv>	so is havelock a legit exchange?
Mar 22 00:41:01 <dub>	chick with nice hooters eh.. sounds like a fatty
Mar 22 00:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	dub she was a little heavy in the rump ya
Mar 22 00:41:22 <tiberiusiv>	on the deposit bitcoins page i see nothing?
Mar 22 00:41:26 <tiberiusiv>	is it my browser
Mar 22 00:41:27 <mod6>	have you seen spanish chicks? some of em got a nice rack of titty and are totally thin
Mar 22 00:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv nobody's come forth with proof otherwise so far.
Mar 22 00:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 this one was well rounded.
Mar 22 00:41:59 <mod6>	they come in all shapes and sizes i guess.
Mar 22 00:42:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.3973 = 2.7811 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:42:18 <mod6>	i learned a lot of my spanish in mexico just traveling around.
Mar 22 00:42:25 <mod6>	then i kinda took it more formally later on.
Mar 22 00:42:46 <dub>	spanish chicks, ew
Mar 22 00:42:57 <mod6>	but travel is amazing, and all the americans who are too fat or busy watching the kardashians to go out and check out the rest of the planet are dumb.
Mar 22 00:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	dub y so picky mang ?
Mar 22 00:43:04 <dub>	well spain in general is ew
Mar 22 00:44:22 <dub>	I remember a chick in business attire squatting down and taking a dump in the gutter
Mar 22 00:44:32 <dub>	downtown bilbao
Mar 22 00:44:49 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3973 = 1.9865 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:44:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3973 = 0.7946 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:45:04 <mod6>	lol dub
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Mar 22 00:45:50 <dub>	also getting boils from swimming in the sea
Mar 22 00:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	clearly spain is therefore broken.
Mar 22 00:46:31 <mircea_popescu>	but for my curiosity : naked teensy chick next to you was covered in her own vomit six hours ago at what they call "a party".
Mar 22 00:46:42 <mircea_popescu>	is she unfuckable now even tho she's showered since ?
Mar 22 00:46:53 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/oaJhsoO.jpg
Mar 22 00:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah
Mar 22 00:47:20 <mircea_popescu>	dude it was nothing like that, it was more like slapping her butt
Mar 22 00:47:31 <mod6>	nice smickles
Mar 22 00:47:45 <mod6>	lol slapped her ass and grabbed her gat
Mar 22 00:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. romania is just not a very weapon centric culture. i have no objection with the notions of safety applicable to the us and its citizens, but it's not universal
Mar 22 00:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	ie, "add guns" is not the universal path to improving safety in absolutely any circumstance, place or time.
Mar 22 00:49:44 <tiberiusiv>	ex communist countries tend to be none weapon based
Mar 22 00:49:49 <tiberiusiv>	except for czech republic
Mar 22 00:50:14 <tiberiusiv>	weapons were banned under communist rule for a reason.
Mar 22 00:50:25 <mod6>	lol they always are
Mar 22 00:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	how were they banned ? everyone got trained to use them whether like it or not
Mar 22 00:50:32 <mircea_popescu>	men and women.
Mar 22 00:50:42 <tiberiusiv>	private ownership was banned
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Mar 22 00:50:49 <mod6>	oh...hmm i thought they get rid of that shit so people don't outright revolt
Mar 22 00:50:50 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Mar 22 00:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	my father owned a bunch of guns
Mar 22 00:50:59 <tiberiusiv>	you talking about the slave army everyone had to join
Mar 22 00:51:08 <dub>	mircea_popescu: yeah those are dealbreakers on spain
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Mar 22 00:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv the us had the draft for a while too you know.
Mar 22 00:51:15 <dub>	i need a usable ocean
Mar 22 00:51:20 <tiberiusiv>	yes i know
Mar 22 00:51:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.3955 = 39.55 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:51:27 <mod6>	the U.S. has had the draft many times
Mar 22 00:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, im all for the slave army.
Mar 22 00:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	it'd do a world of good to eu and us youth right now,
Mar 22 00:51:46 <mircea_popescu>	being forced to push rocks for a year
Mar 22 00:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	and beaten weekly.
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Mar 22 00:52:18 <tiberiusiv>	militia is the best
Mar 22 00:52:24 <tiberiusiv>	switzerland and original US
Mar 22 00:52:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3955 = 9.8875 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:52:45 <tiberiusiv>	isnt it odd how the wealthiest state in the EU is also the most pro gun?
Mar 22 00:52:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.3955 = 6.328 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:52:57 <tiberiusiv>	and the poorest the most anti?
Mar 22 00:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	it's only the wealthiest state cause it had enough sense to not join the euro
Mar 22 00:53:11 <mod6>	i kinda like the idea of the militia too, but it turns out that they never fought very well in the revolution until Cowpens
Mar 22 00:53:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3955 = 0.791 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	and britain ain't the poorest.
Mar 22 00:53:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.3955 = 2.373 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:53:33 <mod6>	they were backed up against the river, and seen enough battles to finally face the brits head on
Mar 22 00:53:36 <mod6>	...
Mar 22 00:54:04 <tiberiusiv>	a highly armed population is ideal
Mar 22 00:54:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3955 = 0.791 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:54:14 <mod6>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cowpens
Mar 22 00:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	it depends on the culture tiberiusiv
Mar 22 00:54:44 <tiberiusiv>	agreed
Mar 22 00:54:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 200 @ 0.3955 = 79.1 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:55:51 <Bowjob>	wow, VTX is selling like crazy
Mar 22 00:55:53 <Namworld>	509 units remaining
Mar 22 00:56:09 <smickles>	a
Mar 22 00:56:12 <tiberiusiv>	trying to get my btc transffered in time
Mar 22 00:56:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3955 = 1.1865 BTC [-]
Mar 22 00:56:34 <tiberiusiv>	vtx is fast fast withdraws
Mar 22 00:56:39 <Bowjob>	so its gonna be cavirtex vs coinlab?
Mar 22 00:56:51 <tiberiusiv>	cavirtex is for canadians
Mar 22 00:57:04 <tiberiusiv>	they dont really have none canadian cashout options do they?
Mar 22 00:57:05 <Bowjob>	well it says coinlab's gonna deal with canadians too
Mar 22 00:57:29 <tiberiusiv>	cavritex has a bank draft to your door in 2days, or a direct deposit in under 24hrs up to 30k
Mar 22 00:57:33 <tiberiusiv>	i doubt mtgox can match that
Mar 22 00:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully they managwe to get their banking partnerships in order.
Mar 22 00:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	5k btc should go a little that way.
Mar 22 00:58:04 <the-bucket-shop>	did mtgox stop talking or is it just me?
Mar 22 00:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	it was on/off all day
Mar 22 00:58:26 <the-bucket-shop>	thanks
Mar 22 00:58:41 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: do you honestly believe btc will be 1k?
Mar 22 00:58:47 <mircea_popescu>	eventually ? sure.
Mar 22 00:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.35664457 = 356.6446 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:58:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.38537148 = 385.3715 BTC [+]
Mar 22 00:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.41409839 = 414.0984 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 00:59:40 <Bowjob>	it should be much more than 1k, actually
Mar 22 00:59:42 <tiberiusiv>	can you send transfers out of bitcoin wallet while your blockchain isnt fully updated
Mar 22 00:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	prolly they won't go.
Mar 22 01:00:12 <Bowjob>	if it reaches high enough price, trading btc for fiat will be a seen as a shit move
Mar 22 01:01:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3922 = 1.961 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:02:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3922 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:02:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3922 = 0.7844 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:02:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.3922 = 5.0986 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:04:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.3922 = 9.805 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:04:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 200 @ 0.3922 = 78.44 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 01:05:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3922 = 3.922 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:05:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3922 = 1.961 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:05:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 200 @ 0.3922 = 78.44 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:05:31 <Namworld>	45 units remaining
Mar 22 01:05:42 <Bowjob>	I'm impressed they got the ipo sold that fast
Mar 22 01:05:51 <Bowjob>	anyone bought VTX?
Mar 22 01:05:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3922 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:05:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3922 = 7.844 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:06:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3922 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:06:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3922 = 0.7844 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:06:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3922 = 1.961 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:06:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3922 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:06:54 <tiberiusiv>	damn i missed it then
Mar 22 01:07:07 <Namworld>	Yeah, I did. I'm canadian. I happen to be a regular user.
Mar 22 01:07:21 <tiberiusiv>	will it trade at havelock
Mar 22 01:07:24 <tiberiusiv>	as a fund?
Mar 22 01:07:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3922 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:07:51 <Bowjob>	i watched the video, they will offer 12% per year on their bitcoin short fund
Mar 22 01:07:52 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3922 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:08:03 <Namworld>	I guess so.
Mar 22 01:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	probably will trade yeah
Mar 22 01:08:09 <tiberiusiv>	no i meant the VTX shares
Mar 22 01:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock vtx
Mar 22 01:08:15 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 22 01:08:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.38280000 / 0.39364479 / 0.43320000 (9867 shares, 3884.09310000 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.39427952 / 0.46140000 (9991 shares, 3939.24670000 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.39427952 / 0.46140000 (9991 shares, 3939.24670000 BTC)
Mar 22 01:08:25 <Bowjob>	im sure some people will want to flip the shares
Mar 22 01:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	pretty well done.
Mar 22 01:08:39 <Bowjob>	300k in capital in  a day
Mar 22 01:08:40 <Bowjob>	wow
Mar 22 01:08:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.3922 = 5.0986 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:09:02 <Bowjob>	havelock ipos have always done extremely well
Mar 22 01:09:15 <Namworld>	Yeah
Mar 22 01:09:19 <Bowjob>	the mining fund when it first got out was 4.6 something btcs
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Mar 22 01:09:27 <Bowjob>	traded to 20 bucks on today;'s prices
Mar 22 01:09:44 <Bowjob>	they pre ordered with bfl, unfortunately
Mar 22 01:09:44 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 22 01:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	ouch.
Mar 22 01:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 1.99 = 13.93 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	ahh, it's so wunderbar to see how far bicoin finance has come since march 2012
Mar 22 01:10:23 <mircea_popescu>	maybe we'll survive overall.
Mar 22 01:10:31 <jcpham>	doubtful
Mar 22 01:10:49 <Bowjob>	so mp, whats your take on ianbakewell
Mar 22 01:10:54 <Bowjob>	i thought he was legit
Mar 22 01:10:59 <Namworld>	Bowjob: HIM was trading at 4 BTC you say?
Mar 22 01:11:06 <Bowjob>	yeah in the beginning
Mar 22 01:11:11 <Bowjob>	before the split
Mar 22 01:11:16 <jcpham>	i'm not convinced intelligence or quality thereof increases witht the number of participants
Mar 22 01:11:18 <Bowjob>	it was 4.6 something back in june
Mar 22 01:11:32 <Namworld>	So it's now trading at 20
Mar 22 01:11:34 <Bowjob>	and no one bought it
Mar 22 01:11:36 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 22 01:11:52 <Namworld>	20 BTC
Mar 22 01:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob i thought he was legit too.
Mar 22 01:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	the idea of shorting whatever the hell tho....
Mar 22 01:12:25 <Namworld>	I want to short HIM
Mar 22 01:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	people figure themselves qualified to do things they're not just because.
Mar 22 01:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	it ends in tears usually, but they don't learn cause there's an endless reservoir of new ones.
Mar 22 01:13:04 <Bowjob>	his face, name, everything is online
Mar 22 01:13:29 <Bowjob>	i was actually considering lending him 100, but then i decided not to in the end
Mar 22 01:14:11 <Bowjob>	so its 3 payment dates that he missed
Mar 22 01:14:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.38783812 = 387.8381 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.35922594 = 359.2259 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:14:22 <Bowjob>	safe to say he ran away
Mar 22 01:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44888888 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:15:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.44979998 = 8.5462 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:15:58 <Bowjob>	Wow, people are starting to flip VTX now
Mar 22 01:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44979998 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44979998 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:16:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44979998 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 01:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.44979998 = 3.1486 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:17:23 <Bowjob>	LTC down to 0.005, same old gutter
Mar 22 01:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	aww
Mar 22 01:18:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44888888 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:18:47 <Bowjob>	I briefly rode the LTC train
Mar 22 01:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:19:07 <Bowjob>	then dumped when before it went crashing
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Mar 22 01:20:36 <Namworld>	neat
Mar 22 01:21:30 <Diablo-D3>	whats neat
Mar 22 01:21:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 4 @ 0.38792585 = 1.5517 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:21:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 883 @ 0.35931775 = 317.2776 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	im guessing goat rode it all the way lol
Mar 22 01:21:52 <Namworld>	that he rode LTC before the crash
Mar 22 01:22:05 <Namworld>	He's probably sleeping with all his BTC
Mar 22 01:22:06 <Diablo-D3>	goat is rich now?
Mar 22 01:22:08 <Namworld>	LTC*
Mar 22 01:22:18 <Namworld>	idk but he has money
Mar 22 01:22:26 <Diablo-D3>	wait, he rode it the whole way down dr strangelove style?
Mar 22 01:22:42 <Bowjob>	goat took some prifits
Mar 22 01:22:47 <Bowjob>	*profits
Mar 22 01:22:54 <Diablo-D3>	or did he ride it and then jump out of the car before it went over the cliff, hanging on by a tree root
Mar 22 01:22:55 <Bowjob>	but rode the rest down
Mar 22 01:23:04 <Diablo-D3>	Bowjob: damn
Mar 22 01:23:08 <Diablo-D3>	the trick is to know when to get out
Mar 22 01:23:15 <Bowjob>	I bought ont he way up, I jumped just in time
Mar 22 01:23:16 <Bowjob>	yah
Mar 22 01:23:37 <Diablo-D3>	like those btc I sold because I needed to?
Mar 22 01:23:38 <Bowjob>	the trollbox are now consoling each other
Mar 22 01:23:40 <Diablo-D3>	I wish ihaddent
Mar 22 01:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45000001 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:24:35 <jcpham>	i've only sold about 20 btc in 3 months
Mar 22 01:24:48 <Diablo-D3>	I sold some at $3x
Mar 22 01:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.45 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:25:25 <Bowjob>	"jubalix: BTC will fall, and the herd will mass in to cheap LTC"
Mar 22 01:25:27 <jcpham>	i've moved 5x out of my wallets into cold cold cold storage
Mar 22 01:25:30 <Bowjob>	Oh, trollbox. I love you
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Mar 22 01:33:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 32 @ 0.009899 = 0.3168 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.45 = 2.25 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:36:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:45:45 <tiberiusiv>	anybody lending BTCs to fiat users deserves losses
Mar 22 01:47:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.47382561 = 473.8256 BTC [+]
Mar 22 01:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.45 = 18 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:48:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.841 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:48:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.841 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 39 @ 0.45 = 17.55 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44000002 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:49:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.84 = 1.68 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 01:53:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8349 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:53:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.8346 = 10.0152 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:53:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8345 = 1.669 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:55:28 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 22 01:55:30 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)
Mar 22 01:56:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8312 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:56:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.831001 = 1.662 BTC [-]
Mar 22 01:57:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.004 = 0.08 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 02:08:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.47420263 = 474.2026 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	heh. no confidence in btc anymore!
Mar 22 02:11:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 65 @ 0.00486 = 0.3159 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 22 02:11:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.59000, Best ask: 71.78495, Bid-ask spread: 0.19495, Last trade: 72.00001, 24 hour volume: 92534.71730364, 24 hour low: 64.20000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 70.40441
Mar 22 02:12:26 <error4733>	please bugpowder don't do that
Mar 22 02:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4498 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.45 = 5.4 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:17:07 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 22 02:17:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.59000, Best ask: 72.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 72.23273, 24 hour volume: 92504.93940713, 24 hour low: 64.20000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 70.41054
Mar 22 02:17:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00486 = 0.0097 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:20:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1821 = 0.5463 BTC [-]
Mar 22 02:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 2 @ 0.33147579 = 0.663 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:22:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 94 @ 0.47435328 = 44.5892 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:24:05 <Bugpowder>	WHAT?
Mar 22 02:24:36 <Bugpowder>	My C490s and C510s are more than making up for the S.DICE disaster
Mar 22 02:24:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:24:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.872 = 2.616 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:25:00 <Bowjob>	eh.. disaster?
Mar 22 02:25:05 <Bowjob>	did you go back to dice?
Mar 22 02:25:09 <tiberiusiv>	its very good news if cavirtex gets a short fund going
Mar 22 02:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	what disater was tht ?
Mar 22 02:25:18 <Bowjob>	I jumped ship at 0.0075
Mar 22 02:25:45 <Bugpowder>	Bullshit Bowjob
Mar 22 02:26:05 <Bowjob>	i got out of it in time, no bs
Mar 22 02:26:43 <Bugpowder>	If this wall gets eaten...  Total bear capitulation.
Mar 22 02:26:43 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 22 02:27:01 <Bowjob>	ive already seen that s.dice will drop in price in the future, months ago
Mar 22 02:27:02 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135760.0
Mar 22 02:27:04 <tiberiusiv>	dice is a great asset to own
Mar 22 02:27:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 3 @ 0.00125 = 0.0038 BTC [-]
Mar 22 02:28:03 <the-bucket-shop>	why tiberiusiv?
Mar 22 02:28:26 <Namworld>	Because most BTC transactions are gambling on SatoshiDice?
Mar 22 02:28:28 <tiberiusiv>	pays out a great income?
Mar 22 02:28:33 <Namworld>	That too
Mar 22 02:28:38 <tiberiusiv>	is addicting?
Mar 22 02:28:45 <tiberiusiv>	has almost no operating costs
Mar 22 02:29:54 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob : "Shares are 0.00475 BTC"
Mar 22 02:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	guess wghat  ? they're the same ?
Mar 22 02:30:07 <the-bucket-shop>	I bought Bowjob's shares, so I'm hurting - not sure s.dice can ever do well with a rising btc price.  and of cource btc always rises
Mar 22 02:30:39 <Bowjob>	werent they 0.0032
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Mar 22 02:31:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.00072 = 0.0029 BTC [-]
Mar 22 02:32:22 <tiberiusiv>	s.dice does amazing with a rising btc price
Mar 22 02:32:27 <tiberiusiv>	what are you talking about?
Mar 22 02:32:36 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 22 02:32:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.04001, Best ask: 70.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 70.05000, 24 hour volume: 93057.48947432, 24 hour low: 64.20000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 70.41710
Mar 22 02:32:41 <Namworld>	I'm with tiberius on that one
Mar 22 02:32:44 <tiberiusiv>	theyve doubled from their ipo and thats with bitcoin rising like 600%
Mar 22 02:33:05 <Namworld>	It only seems like it's lowering because a temporary bigshot or two were doing massive gambling
Mar 22 02:33:25 <tiberiusiv>	no it seems someone was slowing the site down
Mar 22 02:33:30 <Namworld>	But big gamblers could be back anytime
Mar 22 02:33:31 <tiberiusiv>	because transactions per day decreased alot
Mar 22 02:33:38 <tiberiusiv>	thats why the price came down
Mar 22 02:34:13 <tiberiusiv>	http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions
Mar 22 02:34:18 <tiberiusiv>	see that decrease?
Mar 22 02:34:24 <tiberiusiv>	that was sdice being ddosed or some shit
Mar 22 02:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	you are aware the network was fucked in the mouth for about a week
Mar 22 02:34:42 <mircea_popescu>	with a bunch of tx pending and a 5 hour long orphan
Mar 22 02:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 1 @ 0.303 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:35:09 <tiberiusiv>	sdice is one of the best assets to own
Mar 22 02:35:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1 @ 0.27442858 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:35:29 <tiberiusiv>	it runs on autopilot lol
Mar 22 02:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	they;'ve lost two < 1s this month
Mar 22 02:36:02 <mircea_popescu>	but really i'd say it's more an investment than a loss
Mar 22 02:36:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1 @ 0.36014286 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:36:24 <tiberiusiv>	those players will give that right back
Mar 22 02:36:26 <tiberiusiv>	+ more
Mar 22 02:36:49 <Namworld>	they already are
Mar 22 02:36:55 <tiberiusiv>	sdice justneeds good volume
Mar 22 02:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	it's a formidable show of strength in any case.
Mar 22 02:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	there are not that many bitcoin businesses paying out in the k's range.
Mar 22 02:37:34 <tiberiusiv>	customer growth potential is massive with sdice
Mar 22 02:37:55 <tiberiusiv>	tons of gambling fiens that dont want to leave the comfort of their homes
Mar 22 02:37:59 <Bowjob>	tiber, what price did u buy dice at
Mar 22 02:39:02 <Bugpowder>	Wait.  The lost 2 <1 TONIGHT?!?
Mar 22 02:39:09 <Bugpowder>	3000 BTC down the tubes?
Mar 22 02:39:20 <Bowjob>	tiber
Mar 22 02:39:25 <Bugpowder>	FFS
Mar 22 02:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder 1 tonight, 2k btc
Mar 22 02:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	1 earlier this month iirc
Mar 22 02:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Mar 22 02:39:47 <Bugpowder>	no
Mar 22 02:39:51 <Bugpowder>	2 tonight
Mar 22 02:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	what srsly ?!
Mar 22 02:40:11 <Bowjob>	O;
Mar 22 02:40:46 <Bugpowder>	BTCUSD collapsing
Mar 22 02:40:51 <Bugpowder>	SDICE FUCKED
Mar 22 02:40:58 <Bugpowder>	everything is going to shit
Mar 22 02:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	well you sold out and got your tesla rigjht ?
Mar 22 02:41:54 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 22 02:41:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.11110, Best ask: 69.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.76890, Last trade: 69.11110, 24 hour volume: 95198.29487360, 24 hour low: 64.20000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 70.40615
Mar 22 02:41:59 <Bowjob>	wtf is going on
Mar 22 02:42:04 <tiberiusiv>	btc is going right back into the low 50's
Mar 22 02:42:16 <Namworld>	Price ain't collapsing...
Mar 22 02:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 22 02:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.19305144 / 62.54448241 / 63.8704312 (21265 shares, 3,903.05 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 22 02:42:31 <error4733>	tiberiusiv stop dreaming
Mar 22 02:42:38 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Mar 22 02:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	oix sez 62 if you believe that.
Mar 22 02:42:54 <error4733>	4300 on queue for mtgox account confirmation...
Mar 22 02:42:55 <tiberiusiv>	error4733: 20k coins sold takes the price to mid 50's
Mar 22 02:43:00 <Namworld>	I could pop the price back to 72 with like 100 bucks
Mar 22 02:43:09 <Bowjob>	tiber.. you seem to prop up dice a lot
Mar 22 02:43:12 <Bowjob>	when did you buy dice?
Mar 22 02:43:16 <Bowjob>	at what pric
Mar 22 02:43:28 <tiberiusiv>	what you care
Mar 22 02:43:36 <error4733>	why pp would sold 20K ?
Mar 22 02:43:41 <error4733>	all light is green
Mar 22 02:43:43 <Bowjob>	because if you bought it at 0.0075, you're just prep talking
Mar 22 02:43:43 <tiberiusiv>	i dont own alot as i dont like the 30mil market cap
Mar 22 02:44:02 <tiberiusiv>	i didnt buy it that high
Mar 22 02:44:12 <Bowjob>	get real. i buy and sell depending on what i see ahead
Mar 22 02:44:18 <error4733>	every BTC under 100$ is cheap
Mar 22 02:44:21 <error4733>	!!
Mar 22 02:44:33 <Bowjob>	iv'e done really well so far. so you're at a loss right now.
Mar 22 02:44:37 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob im not on losses
Mar 22 02:44:47 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1656294#msg1656294
Mar 22 02:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	this shit's too funny
Mar 22 02:45:07 <error4733>	we are on road for 500$ in no time
Mar 22 02:45:39 <error4733>	5b market cap is still nothing in world economy
Mar 22 02:46:03 <tiberiusiv>	5b market cap with how shitty liquidity is?
Mar 22 02:46:05 <tiberiusiv>	doubt it
Mar 22 02:46:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.835 BTC [-]
Mar 22 02:46:23 <tiberiusiv>	$2-3mil moves bitcoin 30%
Mar 22 02:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 there's some moats to pass before 1bn.
Mar 22 02:46:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8321 BTC [-]
Mar 22 02:46:48 <error4733>	1b ?
Mar 22 02:46:52 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Mar 22 02:46:57 <error4733>	250m more haha
Mar 22 02:47:09 <error4733>	15 days ?
Mar 22 02:47:59 <Bowjob>	id at least wait till the cypriots open their banks
Mar 22 02:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:48:44 <Bugpowder>	dude I am selling coins all the way up
Mar 22 02:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.45 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Mar 22 02:51:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
Mar 22 02:51:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.143 = 0.429 BTC [-]
Mar 22 02:51:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.142 BTC [-]
Mar 22 02:51:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.1415 = 0.4245 BTC [-]
Mar 22 02:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.49899 = 10.9778 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 03:00:47 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is going to collapse when risk assets turn south again
Mar 22 03:00:49 <tiberiusiv>	just like in 2011
Mar 22 03:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	this is possible.
Mar 22 03:01:17 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin rallies with the US stock market
Mar 22 03:01:21 <tiberiusiv>	and declines with it as well
Mar 22 03:01:27 <tiberiusiv>	just with multiples up and down
Mar 22 03:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	fortunes were made thinking one knows how bitcoin moves,
Mar 22 03:04:12 <mircea_popescu>	fortunes were lost thinking one knows how bitcoin moves.
Mar 22 03:04:16 <mircea_popescu>	fact is nobody has a clue.
Mar 22 03:04:27 <tiberiusiv>	its all herd psycology
Mar 22 03:04:33 <tiberiusiv>	everyone called bitcoin dead at $2
Mar 22 03:04:37 <tiberiusiv>	but wants it like crazy at 70
Mar 22 03:04:51 <tiberiusiv>	nobody bought US stocks until january 2013
Mar 22 03:04:55 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 22 03:04:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.72001, Best ask: 70.04988, Bid-ask spread: 0.32987, Last trade: 69.72001, 24 hour volume: 96320.27532477, 24 hour low: 64.99240, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 70.40547
Mar 22 03:05:00 <tiberiusiv>	4 years after a bull run
Mar 22 03:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.49898999 BTC [-]
Mar 22 03:05:03 <Bowjob>	its friday.. so weekend dip
Mar 22 03:05:05 <tiberiusiv>	started
Mar 22 03:06:52 <tiberiusiv>	pull up a chart of the US stock market
Mar 22 03:06:55 <tiberiusiv>	and look at 2011
Mar 22 03:06:59 <tiberiusiv>	peaked out same time BTC did
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Mar 22 03:07:44 <error4733>	you have to stop looking 2 months or 3
Mar 22 03:08:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.16052553 = 160.5255 BTC [-]
Mar 22 03:08:35 <error4733>	ok you call a correction, but in long term, under 100$ is a cheap price
Mar 22 03:08:53 <mircea_popescu>	well on the long term sure.
Mar 22 03:08:56 <tiberiusiv>	how so?
Mar 22 03:09:20 <tiberiusiv>	liqudity hasnt improved, and current bitcoin market cap can support an economy that generates 8 billion a year in goods and services
Mar 22 03:09:35 <error4733>	after, if you feel lucky and want start trade, learn in one week what traders learn in one life, take your shoot
Mar 22 03:09:56 <tiberiusiv>	error4733 you just angry that you bought high
Mar 22 03:10:04 <error4733>	?
Mar 22 03:10:08 <tiberiusiv>	the US stock market peaked out 1 month before BTC did in 2011
Mar 22 03:10:10 <error4733>	a jump in a 13$
Mar 22 03:10:32 <tiberiusiv>	theres plenty of indications of a short term multi month top
Mar 22 03:10:39 <tiberiusiv>	some guy is offering his house for BTC
Mar 22 03:11:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1000 @ 0.33195374 = 331.9537 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	well, the options are clearly calling this a top
Mar 22 03:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	so maybe it's the top for this week.
Mar 22 03:12:00 <Bowjob>	gox wont take in new money, for the next 2 days
Mar 22 03:12:03 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoinis ripe for a 50% collapse to the weekly moving average
Mar 22 03:12:51 <tiberiusiv>	not to mention the gross overvaluation of bitcoin business's
Mar 22 03:13:16 <tiberiusiv>	cavirtex raised 300k with almost 0 advertising trading at 8x sales
Mar 22 03:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4679975 = 2.34 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin will probably force a re-modelling of valuation models.
Mar 22 03:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	because of its deflationary nature any revenue stream is worth a lot.
Mar 22 03:14:38 <error4733>	tiberius + for cavirtex
Mar 22 03:14:52 <error4733>	+1MP
Mar 22 03:15:08 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: the US was on a deflationary currency for 100 years
Mar 22 03:15:35 <error4733>	when ?
Mar 22 03:15:44 <tiberiusiv>	during its china moment
Mar 22 03:15:49 <tiberiusiv>	in the 1800's
Mar 22 03:15:55 <tiberiusiv>	prices fell the entire century
Mar 22 03:16:00 <tiberiusiv>	on the gold standard
Mar 22 03:16:25 <tiberiusiv>	when the most prosperous middle class in world history emerged and that was with a civil war as well
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Mar 22 03:18:05 <tiberiusiv>	prices were 50% lower in 1900 then in 1800
Mar 22 03:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	this is true
Mar 22 03:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	and at that time any revenue stream was worth dieingfor
Mar 22 03:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	and peopledid.
Mar 22 03:18:38 <tiberiusiv>	GDP grew at over 4% annually
Mar 22 03:18:52 <tiberiusiv>	those numbers would never be reached by the US again
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Mar 22 03:20:04 <tiberiusiv>	US went from a 3rd world to 2x wealthier then europe in 100 years
Mar 22 03:20:05 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, an argument can be brought that bitcoin businesses are sorely undervalued atm, in the sense that if you add the half dozen which are serious they're not even 1/4 monetarty mass
Mar 22 03:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	that's nonsense.
Mar 22 03:20:22 <tiberiusiv>	they arent undervalued
Mar 22 03:20:49 <tiberiusiv>	first off you have no shareholder rights
Mar 22 03:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	that's an advantage
Mar 22 03:20:59 <mircea_popescu>	not a drawback.
Mar 22 03:21:03 <tiberiusiv>	0 verification of anything
Mar 22 03:21:10 <tiberiusiv>	no dispute settlement
Mar 22 03:21:42 <mircea_popescu>	no voting -> you don't need to expend time to inform yourself and vote. no dispute settlement -> you can't waste capital on lawyer fees.
Mar 22 03:22:05 <Namworld>	That's good only if there's never an issue arising
Mar 22 03:22:08 <tiberiusiv>	you have no verification of incomes or expenses posted
Mar 22 03:22:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1000 @ 0.33195374 = 331.9537 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	that's not really true.
Mar 22 03:22:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.16040513 = 160.4051 BTC [-]
Mar 22 03:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice yo ucan verify. asicminer you can (sorta) verify. mpoe you can verify
Mar 22 03:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	bitbet you can certainly verify
Mar 22 03:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld it's just a theory in my head, but i suspect that macro speaking, the total fees taken by lawyers in a year = the total value of resolutions.
Mar 22 03:23:14 <Namworld>	True, some have public BTC addresses. Checking what they earn is trivial.
Mar 22 03:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	so basically you're not making a profit in that paradigm, globally.
Mar 22 03:23:34 <Namworld>	As for verifications... well pretty much any documents can be forged.
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Mar 22 03:23:45 <Namworld>	Other than BTC transactions
Mar 22 03:24:07 <tiberiusiv>	if bitcoin collapses by more then 50%
Mar 22 03:24:16 <tiberiusiv>	it will take years if not a decade
Mar 22 03:24:18 <tiberiusiv>	to regain
Mar 22 03:24:52 <tiberiusiv>	just like the last high took 2 years to surpass
Mar 22 03:25:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C550T] 1000 @ 0.2177331 = 217.7331 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:25:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C530T] 1000 @ 0.24628826 = 246.2883 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.27484342 = 274.8434 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:25:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 1000 @ 0.30339858 = 303.3986 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
Mar 22 03:25:35 <mircea_popescu>	there'd be nothing wrong with that incidentally.
Mar 22 03:25:36 <Anduck>	wrong
Mar 22 03:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	i don't subscribe to this rushed approach many take.
Mar 22 03:25:52 <Anduck>	if it goes down by 50% someone will buy it
Mar 22 03:25:57 <mircea_popescu>	let it be two years, let the scammers suddenly flooding the forum get despondent, no loss here.
Mar 22 03:26:09 <the-bucket-shop>	!ticker
Mar 22 03:26:10 <assbot>	Things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun.
Mar 22 03:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	mkay so this morning is > 35k contracts traded with the bot
Mar 22 03:26:50 <mircea_popescu>	this is one of those days.
Mar 22 03:26:54 <Anduck>	assbot stfu, you're bot. you have the right to only speak about tickers and trades
Mar 22 03:27:39 <Anduck>	someone rly fix the bot, it's not fun to see that kind of crap. instead, it should tell instructions
Mar 22 03:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	what are you trying to do ?
Mar 22 03:28:10 <Anduck>	it's a bot.
Mar 22 03:28:13 <Anduck>	i'm not.
Mar 22 03:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	"Indonesia may outlaw unmarried sex with jail threatened for offenders"
Mar 22 03:31:05 <Bowjob>	indonesia is scary
Mar 22 03:31:14 <Bowjob>	i hear they cut off your head if you get caught fapping
Mar 22 03:31:22 <Bowjob>	which head, i wonder
Mar 22 03:32:00 <error4733>	yes "maybe"
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Mar 22 03:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1000 @ 0.33195374 = 331.9537 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:43:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 292 @ 0.00486 = 1.4191 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.49898888 = 6.9858 BTC [-]
Mar 22 03:44:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.16017925 = 0.3204 BTC [-]
Mar 22 03:44:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.16028476 = 159.9642 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:44:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 31 @ 0.00487 = 0.151 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:44:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 526 @ 0.00487 = 2.5616 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 03:50:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 228 @ 0.33195374 = 75.6855 BTC [+]
Mar 22 03:51:00 <Namworld>	It's about time S.DICE gets some traction
Mar 22 03:51:15 <Namworld>	(The PT S.DICE)
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Mar 22 04:02:44 <ZedsterX>	yes plz
Mar 22 04:03:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 22 04:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.15833758 = 158.3376 BTC [-]
Mar 22 04:09:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Mar 22 04:10:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [+]
Mar 22 04:10:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [-]
Mar 22 04:11:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Mar 22 04:19:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.15827441 = 158.2744 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 04:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00444444 BTC [+]
Mar 22 04:24:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.15821772 = 158.2177 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 04:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4679975 BTC [+]
Mar 22 04:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4679975 BTC [+]
Mar 22 04:39:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00421 = 0.0842 BTC [+]
Mar 22 04:39:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 99 @ 0.0042 = 0.4158 BTC [-]
Mar 22 04:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.46799769 = 1.872 BTC [+]
Mar 22 04:40:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.16058182 BTC [+]
Mar 22 04:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.468 = 2.34 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 04:42:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.15809519 = 158.0952 BTC [-]
Mar 22 04:53:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [+]
Mar 22 04:54:52 <mircea_popescu>	well i'm off. take care all.
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Mar 22 04:56:05 <Uglux>	bye
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Mar 22 05:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.15597706 = 155.9771 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 05:27:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [+]
Mar 22 05:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4949 = 3.9592 BTC [-]
Mar 22 05:34:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.495 BTC [+]
Mar 22 05:34:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.49898888 BTC [+]
Mar 22 05:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.15549804 = 155.498 BTC [-]
Mar 22 05:36:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99999988 BTC [+]
Mar 22 05:36:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 10 @ 0.30676824 = 3.0677 BTC [+]
Mar 22 05:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.39999 BTC [+]
Mar 22 05:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4849999 = 1.455 BTC [+]
Mar 22 05:47:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.27835062 = 278.3506 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 05:57:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 12 @ 0.00449 = 0.0539 BTC [+]
Mar 22 06:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.49898888 BTC [+]
Mar 22 06:04:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.15316792 = 153.1679 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 06:07:30 <Diablo-D3>	hey guys
Mar 22 06:07:37 <Diablo-D3>	how much does SD actually pay out to shareholders?
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Mar 22 06:13:35 <Namworld>	It always looks like 100%
Mar 22 06:13:50 <Namworld>	Might be because the operating costs are low tho...
Mar 22 06:13:54 <Diablo-D3>	that wasnt what I asked
Mar 22 06:13:54 <Namworld>	hosting, some marketing
Mar 22 06:14:02 <Diablo-D3>	whats the actual amount, and what unit of time
Mar 22 06:14:13 <Namworld>	oh... varies by month
Mar 22 06:14:42 <Namworld>	0.00005 to 0.0002 per month, let's say
Mar 22 06:14:56 <Namworld>	per share
Mar 22 06:15:07 <Diablo-D3>	how many shares is there
Mar 22 06:15:14 <Namworld>	100 million
Mar 22 06:15:37 <Diablo-D3>	so 5000 btc to
Mar 22 06:15:47 <Diablo-D3>	to 20000 BTC
Mar 22 06:16:05 <Namworld>	aye
Mar 22 06:16:08 <Namworld>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE
Mar 22 06:16:19 <Namworld>	see the dividends section on the right, at bottom
Mar 22 06:16:31 <Namworld>	you have the actual numbers in satoshi per shares
Mar 22 06:16:51 <Namworld>	Note that it's for a fraction only of shares, since most are not held by the public
Mar 22 06:17:16 <Namworld>	So ignore the total amounts, per share works tho.
Mar 22 06:17:21 <TradeFortress>	Diablo-D3, check evoorhee's monthly replies
Mar 22 06:17:26 <TradeFortress>	he lists hosting costs, consulting, etc
Mar 22 06:17:36 <Diablo-D3>	TradeFortress: Im not a shareholder so I dont follow the thread
Mar 22 06:17:43 <TradeFortress>	well that's where you can get that information.
Mar 22 06:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.28029585 = 280.2959 BTC [+]
Mar 22 06:27:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.15292871 = 152.9287 BTC [-]
Mar 22 06:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.28029585 = 280.2959 BTC [+]
Mar 22 06:37:34 <ZedsterX>	here's some news: http://go.bloomberg.com/market-now/2013/03/21/sorry-bitcoin-isnt-a-currency/
Mar 22 06:40:54 <TradeFortress>	"Unlike Bitcoins, real currency can be used to buy stuff."
Mar 22 06:40:55 <TradeFortress>	lol
Mar 22 06:41:23 <jurov>	their insisting it's silkroad only is pretty lame
Mar 22 06:42:06 <ZedsterX>	quite idiot article for bloomberg IMO
Mar 22 06:42:43 <ZedsterX>	but if they get people to sell then maybe I can get back in :)
Mar 22 06:42:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.83 = 4.15 BTC [+]
Mar 22 06:42:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [+]
Mar 22 06:43:23 <TradeFortress>	ZedsterX, people'll gobble cheap coins up
Mar 22 06:43:32 <ZedsterX>	shhhh
Mar 22 06:43:58 <ZedsterX>	i wouldn't ;)
Mar 22 06:44:34 <TradeFortress>	I wouldn't eat bitcoins either, jsons are too salty
Mar 22 06:44:53 <TradeFortress>	YAML tastes nicer.
Mar 22 06:45:27 <ZedsterX>	ya could just buy a house: http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/man-selling-house-for-bitcoins-the-first-sale-of-its-kind-20130320/
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Mar 22 06:47:35 <TradeFortress>	wsj meanwhile
Mar 22 06:47:36 <TradeFortress>	http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324373204578374611351125202.html
Mar 22 06:47:42 <TradeFortress>	One of the fastest-growing alternative cash products is Bitcoin, an online currency launched in 2009
Mar 22 06:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.49898888 = 1.996 BTC [+]
Mar 22 06:55:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.28201 BTC [-]
Mar 22 06:56:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009822 = 0.0295 BTC [-]
Mar 22 06:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.49898888 = 9.9798 BTC [+]
Mar 22 06:58:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.334 BTC [-]
Mar 22 06:58:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.334 BTC [-]
Mar 22 07:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.39999 = 2.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 07:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.49899 = 0.998 BTC [+]
Mar 22 07:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.28100989 = 281.0099 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 07:41:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 26 @ 0.021 = 0.546 BTC [-]
Mar 22 07:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4849999 = 1.94 BTC [+]
Mar 22 07:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 6 @ 1.22 = 7.32 BTC [-]
Mar 22 07:45:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.1626 = 0.4878 BTC [+]
Mar 22 07:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.4849999 = 3.395 BTC [+]
Mar 22 07:47:40 <Troic_>	what the heck vtx
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Mar 22 08:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.28334609 = 283.3461 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:01:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.814 BTC [-]
Mar 22 08:01:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.813 BTC [-]
Mar 22 08:01:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.812 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 08:02:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.812 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 08:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.499 = 2.495 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.499 = 6.986 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 08:23:16 <jurov>	so, blockchain.info has only one precious server and thus needs downtime every time it's moved
Mar 22 08:23:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.771 BTC [-]
Mar 22 08:23:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.77 = 1.54 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 08:26:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00449 = 0.009 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:28:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 5 @ 0.00177 = 0.0089 BTC [-]
Mar 22 08:28:48 <kakobrekla>	how long its been down?
Mar 22 08:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:29:14 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 22 08:29:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.00000, Best ask: 73.00003, Bid-ask spread: 0.00003, Last trade: 73.00003, 24 hour volume: 91734.02994790, 24 hour low: 67.00000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 71.18157
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Mar 22 08:29:17 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 22 08:29:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00492 = 0.0098 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:29:26 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227370 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 437 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 3 hours, 13 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6541380.45228 | Estimated Percent Change: 34.93929
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Mar 22 08:29:59 <kakobrekla>	time to shut down metapool
Mar 22 08:30:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00072 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
Mar 22 08:31:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 7 @ 0.0054 = 0.0378 BTC [-]
Mar 22 08:32:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00449 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.28344733 = 283.4473 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.5 = 8.5 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.51654 = 7.2316 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:38:39 <jurov>	since 10am of dunno timezone.. but now it's back up
Mar 22 08:40:04 *	da2ce7_d is now known as da2ce7
Mar 22 08:43:49 <jurov>	wow 11 blocks in last 45min.. quite furious hashing we got here
Mar 22 08:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.99999988 = 4 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:45:30 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 22 08:45:37 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227381 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 426 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 1 hour, 56 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6550421.80601 | Estimated Percent Change: 35.1258
Mar 22 08:46:33 <jurov>	aaaand blockchain down again
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Mar 22 08:49:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.772 = 3.088 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:49:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 0.771 = 17.733 BTC [-]
Mar 22 08:50:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.771 = 2.313 BTC [-]
Mar 22 08:50:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Mar 22 08:50:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.28344733 = 283.4473 BTC [+]
Mar 22 08:52:46 <Enky>	;;ticker
Mar 22 08:52:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.96000, Best ask: 72.96001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 72.96000, 24 hour volume: 90538.28180565, 24 hour low: 67.30000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 71.25574
Mar 22 08:52:55 <kakobrekla>	heya Enky
Mar 22 08:52:58 <Enky>	hi
Mar 22 08:53:18 <Enky>	;;bc,stats
Mar 22 08:53:20 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227382 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 425 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6549056.20814 | Estimated Percent Change: 35.09763
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Mar 22 08:59:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.334 = 1.002 BTC [-]
Mar 22 08:59:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 22 08:59:52 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6551280.47334 based on data since last change | 7460894.60212 based on data for last three days
Mar 22 09:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99999988 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 09:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.28435713 = 284.3571 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 09:14:25 <taub>	assbot hehe
Mar 22 09:15:09 <assbot>	sup
Mar 22 09:15:12 <jurov>	;;calc 4847647*2.9
Mar 22 09:15:13 <gribble>	14058176.3
Mar 22 09:15:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 5 @ 0.00177 = 0.0089 BTC [-]
Mar 22 09:16:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00177 BTC [-]
Mar 22 09:16:19 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 22 09:16:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.20001, Best ask: 73.28000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 73.20001, 24 hour volume: 90055.97685910, 24 hour low: 67.97999, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 71.29337
Mar 22 09:16:29 <jurov>	;;calc 4847647*2.9*2.9
Mar 22 09:16:30 <gribble>	40768711.27
Mar 22 09:19:01 <jurov>	thought to buy x.idiff.jun @0.249 ... but they can autoexpire anywhere between 0.14 and 0.4 :/
Mar 22 09:20:40 <jurov>	;;later tell mircea_popescu "x.idiff.jun offered @0.2499 but they can autoexpire anywhere between 0.14 and 0.4. publishing the existing collateral whould really help here"
Mar 22 09:20:40 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 22 09:26:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.28435713 = 284.3571 BTC [+]
Mar 22 09:28:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.33321 = 8.3303 BTC [-]
Mar 22 09:28:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.3332 = 1.9992 BTC [-]
Mar 22 09:29:39 <jurov>	After mining scene review, CoinBr.iDiff-O May collateral upgraded to 0.3BTC/share for all shares (sold and unsold). https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-O
Mar 22 09:29:49 <jurov>	mining scene ftw
Mar 22 09:30:44 <jurov>	and ofc, price upgraded to 0.19 .. lucky whoever bought yesterday at 0.15
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Mar 22 09:35:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.0007 = 0.07 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 09:57:51 <taub>	ahhh shoot
Mar 22 09:58:01 <taub>	someone already made a lending/evereaged trading site
Mar 22 09:58:10 <taub>	details are just like i would've worked it out too :D
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Mar 22 09:59:05 <taub>	but relying on mtgox spotty feed
Mar 22 09:59:07 <taub>	...
Mar 22 09:59:11 <taub>	yea they are having problems
Mar 22 10:02:39 <pizzaman1337>	taub: what site?
Mar 22 10:02:55 <taub>	www.bitfinex.com
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Mar 22 10:03:25 <taub>	people can offer to lend money at rates they set, and traders can enter positions in the most liquid exchange (mtgox) using that lended cash
Mar 22 10:03:39 <taub>	and bitfinex brokers it all and issue margin calls keeping lenders save
Mar 22 10:04:03 <kakobrekla>	lol bitfinex
Mar 22 10:04:15 <taub>	why?
Mar 22 10:04:44 <kakobrekla>	cause somany reasons im out of time to list
Mar 22 10:04:53 <taub>	someone got a good collection of all crypto exchanges?
Mar 22 10:05:04 <taub>	kakobrekla: name a big one :)
Mar 22 10:05:11 <kakobrekla>	SCAM
Mar 22 10:05:16 <kakobrekla>	heres a big one
Mar 22 10:05:42 <taub>	why should they be more scammy than any other exchange?
Mar 22 10:06:34 <kakobrekla>	taub 95% of people invloved with btc finance are incapable fucks
Mar 22 10:06:50 <taub>	:>
Mar 22 10:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0044444 BTC [-]
Mar 22 10:11:02 <jurov>	<Ukto> removed the [BitFunder] from trade announces
Mar 22 10:11:04 <jurov>	<Ukto> since its not going to be in the OTHER channel that we wont discuss
Mar 22 10:11:14 <jurov>	haha
Mar 22 10:11:19 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 22 10:11:22 <jurov>	ukto in #bitfunder
Mar 22 10:11:24 <kakobrekla>	bumhurt?
Mar 22 10:11:24 <taub>	what channels can you guys recommend?
Mar 22 10:11:32 <kakobrekla>	what for?
Mar 22 10:11:40 <taub>	bitcoin general stuff dunno :s
Mar 22 10:11:47 <taub>	trade and speculation discussion
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Mar 22 10:12:02 <kakobrekla>	id say #bitfunder is the best
Mar 22 10:12:24 <taub>	troll?
Mar 22 10:12:28 <kakobrekla>	much
Mar 22 10:13:53 <kakobrekla>	taub in short, you are innit.
Mar 22 10:14:17 <taub>	cool cool
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Mar 22 10:18:34 <Ukto>	lol nah
Mar 22 10:18:37 <Ukto>	just making a joke :)
Mar 22 10:18:52 <Ukto>	[08:04] <Ukto> "channel that should not be named" *grin*
Mar 22 10:19:01 <Ukto>	harry potter reference
Mar 22 10:19:06 <jurov>	usagi will be disappointed then
Mar 22 10:19:14 <Ukto>	then he can be :)
Mar 22 10:20:15 <jurov>	so are you doing assplug into assbot's assapi or not?
Mar 22 10:20:51 <imsaguy>	she*
Mar 22 10:22:21 <deadweasel>	there are SHEs in bitcoinland?
Mar 22 10:22:28 <deadweasel>	!!!
Mar 22 10:23:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.52888888 BTC [+]
Mar 22 10:23:16 <Ukto>	yeah, once we have time to setup the relay
Mar 22 10:23:24 <Ukto>	it will send to assbot too
Mar 22 10:24:43 <imsaguy>	asssssssssssssssssssssssbot
Mar 22 10:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 742 @ 0.0044444 = 3.2977 BTC [-]
Mar 22 10:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5451 BTC [+]
Mar 22 10:29:34 <kakobrekla>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1aqbrs/beginning_to_really_worry_about_coinbase/
Mar 22 10:29:36 <kakobrekla>	O_o
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Mar 22 10:30:06 <kakobrekla>	a well bbl
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Mar 22 10:37:14 <pizzaman1337>	it seems like they were probably waiting to actually buy the btc until people's funds cleared, but the price has risen so much that they're at a huge loss...
Mar 22 10:37:37 <pizzaman1337>	surely they weren't betting on the btc/usd price to remain stable for more than 20 mins...
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Mar 22 10:47:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0047 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 10:47:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00449 BTC [+]
Mar 22 10:48:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.505 = 2.02 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 10:49:00 <iz>	;;ticker
Mar 22 10:49:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.37998, Best ask: 73.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 73.38000, 24 hour volume: 88184.09861429, 24 hour low: 68.11000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 71.48185
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Mar 22 11:00:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 11:06:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00421 = 0.0253 BTC [-]
Mar 22 11:06:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0042 = 0.084 BTC [-]
Mar 22 11:06:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33002 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 11:14:29 <Guest76216>	;;seen smickles
Mar 22 11:14:29 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 hours, 18 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <smickles> a
Mar 22 11:14:52 <smickles>	hey, i just looked here
Mar 22 11:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.485 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 11:27:38 <benkay>	lllast
Mar 22 11:27:40 <benkay>	;;last
Mar 22 11:27:41 <gribble>	[08:27:38] <benkay> lllast
Mar 22 11:27:48 <benkay>	;;ticker
Mar 22 11:27:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.66988, Best ask: 72.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.63012, Last trade: 71.66988, 24 hour volume: 87006.97249034, 24 hour low: 68.11000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 71.62161
Mar 22 11:27:56 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 22 11:27:57 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 22 11:28:02 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 22 11:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.52888888 BTC [+]
Mar 22 11:28:03 <gribble>	0.868203 seconds
Mar 22 11:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.545 BTC [+]
Mar 22 11:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.545 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 11:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.545 = 2.725 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 11:33:54 <Namworld>	VTX doing quite well
Mar 22 11:35:41 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> people figure themselves qualified to do things they're not just because. << in the "book learnin'" form, it's called 'over confidence bias'
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Mar 22 11:40:29 <Guest76216>	i think that's the billionth time mircea_popescu has said something like that
Mar 22 11:40:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7721 BTC [+]
Mar 22 11:40:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.772 = 4.632 BTC [-]
Mar 22 11:40:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.771 = 3.084 BTC [-]
Mar 22 11:40:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7701 BTC [-]
Mar 22 11:40:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 11:49:44 <Namworld>	smickles: what was that about?
Mar 22 11:50:56 <unbalanced>	That's like the figure (I'm misquoting) that something like 99% of people consider themselves "above average" drivers.
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Mar 22 11:51:33 <unbalanced>	Even Rain Man: "Of course, I'm an excellent driver."
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Mar 22 11:57:09 <unbalanced>	For anyone who missed my post last night... I nutted up and put a big amount of fiat (for me) into Bitcoin last night. Ergo, we must have topped already... consider yourself warned.
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Mar 22 11:58:00 <smickles>	Namworld: i think it had to do with ianblackwel (sp?)
Mar 22 11:58:29 <deadweasel>	unbalanced: I'm pretty sure I caused the rally by selling  10% @ $52
Mar 22 11:58:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009822 BTC [-]
Mar 22 11:58:42 <deadweasel>	:D
Mar 22 11:59:10 <smickles>	sometimes i suspect mircea has read stuff on lesswrong, but i tend to think he came by most of what's in lesswrong the old fashoned way
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Mar 22 12:00:16 <deadweasel>	although if we can get bugpowder to take a lunch break it might rally again.
Mar 22 12:00:18 <smickles>	aha! it was you ;)
Mar 22 12:00:27 <thestringpuller>	I've been getting so lazy
Mar 22 12:00:33 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 22 12:00:33 <thestringpuller>	all I do is work, school and sleep
Mar 22 12:00:34 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 66.41108106 high: 67.17328305 low: 51.19305144 volume: 37503 btc: 8558.83978225 30 day: no data
Mar 22 12:00:51 <thestringpuller>	I'm lucky as shit my BTC investments are paying off thanks to you and indirectly mircea
Mar 22 12:01:06 <unbalanced>	ah http://lesswrong.com/ eeenteresting
Mar 22 12:01:12 <smickles>	thestringpuller: when you do stuff like that, it usually ends up pretty good afterwards (the just work/school/sleep bit)
Mar 22 12:01:30 <thestringpuller>	I GOT NO MONEY TO SHOW FOR IT
Mar 22 12:01:40 <thestringpuller>	except for the 400 bucks I put into btc that is theoretically worth 1400 now
Mar 22 12:01:50 <thestringpuller>	they tryin' to take all mah assets
Mar 22 12:01:59 <deadweasel>	who is?
Mar 22 12:02:04 <thestringpuller>	the oligarchy
Mar 22 12:02:11 <thestringpuller>	by making us work until we're 80
Mar 22 12:02:24 <thestringpuller>	and making us bailout people
Mar 22 12:02:29 <deadweasel>	working is still a choice.
Mar 22 12:02:33 <thestringpuller>	STEALIN OUR 401K'S!
Mar 22 12:02:41 <deadweasel>	no doubt
Mar 22 12:02:43 <thestringpuller>	working isn't a choice, it's brainwashed slavery
Mar 22 12:02:49 <unbalanced>	I was wondering if my buy-in was risk-seeking / gambling behaviour or overconfidence in my judgement of the future of Bitcoin, or some other failing. Whether I do well or not, it's hard to truly know.
Mar 22 12:03:07 <deadweasel>	it's a choice.  I've met many a homeless person who were on the street by choice
Mar 22 12:03:13 <thestringpuller>	BTC is going to grow as long as the economy grows so whatever you put into it you get out.
Mar 22 12:03:17 <unbalanced>	But it'll be healthier in the long run to consider myself lucky (not smart) if Bitcoin jumps up from here.
Mar 22 12:03:29 <unbalanced>	Agreed
Mar 22 12:03:41 <thestringpuller>	You can still make money if their is a run on the economy...
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Mar 22 12:04:15 <thestringpuller>	there*
Mar 22 12:04:26 <deadweasel>	thestringpuller: how so?
Mar 22 12:04:37 <deadweasel>	you mean if htere is a dump of btc and no buyers?
Mar 22 12:04:58 <thestringpuller>	yea over suppply of BTC for some interval
Mar 22 12:05:07 <thestringpuller>	causing the price to drop, you can still make money in that situation as a trader
Mar 22 12:05:17 <thestringpuller>	thanks to mircea's options (as fucking expensive as they are)
Mar 22 12:05:31 <deadweasel>	are those the c1000, c510, etc?
Mar 22 12:05:39 <deadweasel>	I hear about'em but I don't understand them.
Mar 22 12:05:39 <thestringpuller>	yea
Mar 22 12:05:48 <thestringpuller>	;;google option contract
Mar 22 12:05:49 <gribble>	Option contract - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Option_contract>; Options Contract Definition | Investopedia: <http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/optionscontract.asp>; Option Contracts - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary: <http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Option+Contracts>
Mar 22 12:05:53 <thestringpuller>	open that link
Mar 22 12:06:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.82652 = 6.6122 BTC [+]
Mar 22 12:06:38 <thestringpuller>	the only issue is that you're making money on other people losing money, which I don't know how you feel about that...where as when the economy is growing (price rises) everyone is making money
Mar 22 12:06:41 <deadweasel>	essentialy you by the opportunity to purchase BTC at a certain price in the futre/
Mar 22 12:06:44 <deadweasel>	?
Mar 22 12:06:46 <unbalanced>	thestringpuller: work isn't slavery man... if you want to eat, "You Gotta Serve Somebody" no? http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/gotta-serve-somebody
Mar 22 12:06:55 <deadweasel>	buy
Mar 22 12:06:56 <deadweasel>	*
Mar 22 12:07:06 <unbalanced>	I might go along with "debt is slavery" tho.
Mar 22 12:07:13 <thestringpuller>	unbalanced: work is slavery because you are a slave to a machine you have no control over even your boss and their boss all the way up to the top are a slave to something
Mar 22 12:07:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.82654 = 3.3062 BTC [+]
Mar 22 12:07:38 <unbalanced>	I think it all boils down to we're slaves to our stomachs / desires.
Mar 22 12:07:49 <deadweasel>	unbalanced: i think you're closer to the truth
Mar 22 12:07:57 <thestringpuller>	it's like feeding a dragon, and serving him hand and foot, satisfying every need and desire, in hopes that he lets you live and walk off with pennies of the gold he usurped when raping the town
Mar 22 12:08:03 <deadweasel>	we want stupid shit like cars and internet and 5 star dining
Mar 22 12:08:06 <deadweasel>	we have to work for it
Mar 22 12:08:06 <unbalanced>	If I want a flat screen TV, or worse if I bought one with a credit card, then I gotta work it off. Earn it.
Mar 22 12:08:18 <thestringpuller>	unbalanced: that's not my point though
Mar 22 12:08:26 <thestringpuller>	unbalanced: how do you become the guys calling the shots?
Mar 22 12:08:31 <deadweasel>	you can live differently and simply not participate in the 'slavery'
Mar 22 12:08:38 <unbalanced>	I'm saying that the dragon is inside us.
Mar 22 12:08:44 <thestringpuller>	even mircea has a boss, in that he has to appease the shareholders of S.MPOE
Mar 22 12:09:17 <thestringpuller>	as big as he wants to be, if those anon supporters of MPEX decided to vacate, his power is lost...
Mar 22 12:09:20 <unbalanced>	If we don't spend more than we earn, then we're as free as we can be. But we have to eat, so we have to earn.
Mar 22 12:09:23 <deadweasel>	ah, yes, our desires = the dragon
Mar 22 12:09:30 <unbalanced>	brb
Mar 22 12:09:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Mar 22 12:09:47 <thestringpuller>	but it's about power
Mar 22 12:10:13 <thestringpuller>	is it not? to point at someone and say, "You are successful because I have power" and that person is immediately transformed from peasant to king.
Mar 22 12:10:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.109 = 0.327 BTC [+]
Mar 22 12:10:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 22 12:10:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.19305144 / 66.41108106 / 67.17328305 (37503 shares, 8,558.84 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 22 12:10:53 <deadweasel>	they have power over those who believe and buy into the system them control
Mar 22 12:11:00 <deadweasel>	thme* they
Mar 22 12:11:25 <deadweasel>	but not over people who live simply in earthships or in some damn hippie commune or sex cult
Mar 22 12:11:43 <deadweasel>	or people who disappear into the bush to live a more spiritual life
Mar 22 12:11:47 <thestringpuller>	i like the metaphor of jazz musicians. Don't know if you like Jazz.
Mar 22 12:11:54 <deadweasel>	or people who decide to assasinate said Powerful One
Mar 22 12:12:06 <deadweasel>	i do
Mar 22 12:12:11 <thestringpuller>	But Art Tatum was a great pianist, like the first blind pianist of his caliber.
Mar 22 12:12:29 <thestringpuller>	Count Basie, and Duke Ellington KNEW they couldn't play the way he did, so they reinvented the genre.
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Mar 22 12:12:33 <thestringpuller>	So they could be the best.
Mar 22 12:12:46 <deadweasel>	ok, so they were not slaves
Mar 22 12:13:10 <deadweasel>	also musicians != slaves
Mar 22 12:13:21 <deadweasel>	unless you're the spice girls
Mar 22 12:13:43 <thestringpuller>	the metaphor is not on the subject of being enlaved, but more of how do you break out of a pre-existing system
Mar 22 12:14:02 <thestringpuller>	you invent something new. some new way of thinking.
Mar 22 12:14:23 <deadweasel>	bingo
Mar 22 12:14:32 <thestringpuller>	voila we are both here in an irc channel connected via electrons moving through wires, because of a currency reinventing the way we perceive value
Mar 22 12:14:42 <deadweasel>	huzzah!
Mar 22 12:15:14 <deadweasel>	this is how we break out of the pre-existing system.  this is a piece of it, anyhow.
Mar 22 12:15:20 <thestringpuller>	I am just a firm believer in the fact that no matter how hard you work, you will never build wealth from grinding.
Mar 22 12:15:22 <deadweasel>	this is one hell of a system we are 'stuck' in.
Mar 22 12:15:31 <deadweasel>	thestringpuller: I agree.
Mar 22 12:15:35 <thestringpuller>	It's like in a video game, sure you can kill the same enemy over and over again until you have a billion experience
Mar 22 12:15:42 <thestringpuller>	or you can glitch the game
Mar 22 12:15:45 <deadweasel>	you must innovate and start your own business.
Mar 22 12:15:48 <thestringpuller>	and kill one enemy and get a bunch of experience
Mar 22 12:16:35 <thestringpuller>	Hopefully the VC's don't invade BTC and try a hostile takeover.
Mar 22 12:16:51 <thestringpuller>	THe only thing preventing that are the whales who have no ties to anyone...
Mar 22 12:16:52 <deadweasel>	they will try, no doubt.  another reason to hold your BTC for the long run.
Mar 22 12:17:05 <thestringpuller>	i think their needs to be a panic button
Mar 22 12:17:14 <deadweasel>	it's the sell button
Mar 22 12:17:22 <thestringpuller>	a way for the BTC elite to sabotage the system in light of a takeover
Mar 22 12:17:33 <thestringpuller>	vis-a-vis "it's the sell button"
Mar 22 12:17:36 <thestringpuller>	but en masse
Mar 22 12:17:56 <deadweasel>	who's to know?  It would be an anonymous takeover, it could have already happpened
Mar 22 12:18:02 <thestringpuller>	;;market --sell 50000
Mar 22 12:18:03 <deadweasel>	it could be the last 3 months of rally
Mar 22 12:18:05 <gribble>	A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 2892506.0442 USD and would take the last price down to 46.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 57.8501 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0046 seconds
Mar 22 12:18:12 <thestringpuller>	;;market --sell 100000
Mar 22 12:18:12 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 4800755.4291 USD and would take the last price down to 30.4623 USD, resulting in an average price of 48.0076 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 7.5521 seconds
Mar 22 12:18:16 <thestringpuller>	damn
Mar 22 12:18:31 <thestringpuller>	even if some anon dumped all the coins in mpex the price wouldn't go back down below 30
Mar 22 12:18:35 <thestringpuller>	at this point
Mar 22 12:18:38 <deadweasel>	nope
Mar 22 12:18:59 <thestringpuller>	harharhar
Mar 22 12:19:10 <deadweasel>	i bought my last btc around 30.  just been hanging around waiting for a crash since then.  still want to buy though.
Mar 22 12:19:14 <deadweasel>	i always want to buy btc.
Mar 22 12:19:29 <deadweasel>	moar btc pls
Mar 22 12:19:41 <thestringpuller>	Irony: My btc "savings" account, has more growth in 6 month than my 401k will have in 10 years
Mar 22 12:19:56 <deadweasel>	ditto!  :)    we are lucky.
Mar 22 12:20:03 <thestringpuller>	and this is from small option trades, and dividends on MPOE
Mar 22 12:21:37 <thestringpuller>	wow https://blockchain.info/charts/market-cap
Mar 22 12:21:44 <thestringpuller>	close to 1 bil market cap
Mar 22 12:21:51 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 22 12:21:53 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069172 / 0.00071868 / 0.00073756 (157988 shares, 113.54 BTC), 7D: 0.00066743 / 0.00072054 / 0.00077505 (3203209 shares, 2,308.06 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00071011 / 0.00078628 (36178979 shares, 25,691.12 BTC)
Mar 22 12:22:58 <thestringpuller>	deadweasel: don't hoarde your coins, invest
Mar 22 12:23:16 <thestringpuller>	you have no hoops to jump through to invest in something you think is worth something, via time, or your btc
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Mar 22 12:24:27 <deadweasel>	i've got some sdice and bbet, but the whole asset game, TO ME, is too much of a gamble.
Mar 22 12:25:06 <unbalanced>	good convo guys, sorry I had to bail
Mar 22 12:25:07 <thestringpuller>	not just assets anything
Mar 22 12:25:16 <deadweasel>	for sure
Mar 22 12:25:18 <thestringpuller>	fuck. build a spaceship
Mar 22 12:25:22 <thestringpuller>	a drone
Mar 22 12:25:28 <unbalanced>	deadweasel I agree on the need to innovate to make it big
Mar 22 12:25:30 <thestringpuller>	a robot that gets bitches
Mar 22 12:25:52 <thestringpuller>	I was thinking of building a secret brewery and selling only for BTC
Mar 22 12:26:04 <deadweasel>	thestringpuller: DO IT!
Mar 22 12:26:08 <deadweasel>	if you have good brewing skills
Mar 22 12:26:20 <unbalanced>	thestringpuller (hereafter tsp 'cause I'm lazy) I agree that trading hours for dollars will never get anyone ahead, no matter what the hourly rate
Mar 22 12:26:23 <thestringpuller>	I'd have to move ~1000 barrels though
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Mar 22 12:26:31 <unbalanced>	Nah, build a spaceship.
Mar 22 12:26:58 <thestringpuller>	what we need is alternative energy via btc sure we have solar panels but they are too inefficient atm
Mar 22 12:27:04 <deadweasel>	SpaceX.....  you might be able to if BTC goes to $1 million  :)
Mar 22 12:27:13 <deadweasel>	innovate space ships
Mar 22 12:27:24 <deadweasel>	aw fuck me, I gotta go back to the slave mill.
Mar 22 12:27:40 <deadweasel>	adios unbalanced and thestringpuller , good talkin'
Mar 22 12:27:55 <unbalanced>	Yes... drone space ships to avoid a worse repeat of this http://www.space.com/19823-russia-meteor-explosion-complete-coverage.html
Mar 22 12:27:57 <unbalanced>	adios
Mar 22 12:28:08 <unbalanced>	slave on muchacho
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Mar 22 12:29:24 <thestringpuller>	oh man you can't launder money via bitcoin anymore wihtout goin to jail
Mar 22 12:29:56 <unbalanced>	I was thinking last weekend that the BTC community could be Earth's only hope one day. Crowdsource a design, launch 48 tiny solar laser drones that sit in various solar (not Earth) orbits and slowly steer asteroids away from a harmful path.
Mar 22 12:30:03 <unbalanced>	You heard it here first.
Mar 22 12:30:38 <mod6>	ZAP EM BTC
Mar 22 12:30:50 <unbalanced>	http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=shoo-away-asteroids-with-a-coat-of-13-02-26
Mar 22 12:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.505 BTC [-]
Mar 22 12:31:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.775 BTC [-]
Mar 22 12:31:22 <thestringpuller>	mod6 is the real salve
Mar 22 12:31:24 <thestringpuller>	slave*
Mar 22 12:31:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.775 = 6.975 BTC [-]
Mar 22 12:31:55 <thestringpuller>	slavin' away to IT world
Mar 22 12:32:10 <thestringpuller>	mod6: how goes the Unix labor?
Mar 22 12:32:19 <unbalanced>	Problem is paint has mass, hard to get it into the right orbits ahead of time. Apparently many asteroids have been found to have some ice like comets. So lasers might have some effect there.
Mar 22 12:32:26 <unbalanced>	But now I'm off topic.
Mar 22 12:32:44 <unbalanced>	Bitcoin saves (salves?) the world.
Mar 22 12:32:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.77501 = 19.3753 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 12:33:59 <mod6>	thestringpuller: eh, it goes. i hate support shit. today I've got some retards who are trying to use my vSphere data collection tool, but apparently can't figure out what their login credentials are.
Mar 22 12:34:06 *	unbalanced is now known as unbalanced_away
Mar 22 12:34:14 <mod6>	soooo.... yeah it sucks, basically.
Mar 22 12:34:28 <thestringpuller>	i had to write bash script
Mar 22 12:34:34 <thestringpuller>	the most hacked-ass bash-fu ever
Mar 22 12:34:41 <mod6>	and as soon as I can make enough loot off ze coinz, i wont be doing that any longer, and will just do btc/mpex related stuff.
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Mar 22 12:35:37 <thestringpuller>	mod6 why don't you just assassinate someone and take their moolah
Mar 22 12:35:45 <mod6>	i did a bunch of cleanup and work on the perl scripts lately to allow getting data via mpexbot directly or via just a pastebin
Mar 22 12:35:51 <thestringpuller>	or overcharge a client and disappear
Mar 22 12:36:37 <mod6>	gotta finish up on bitotter for android, thats been hard to find enough time.
Mar 22 12:37:07 <thestringpuller>	CAUSE YOU WON'T LET NO ONE HELP YOU
Mar 22 12:37:08 <mod6>	its like, i gotta put my brain into "retard" mode for like 8 hours uninterrupted, but that's almost impossible these days
Mar 22 12:37:27 <mod6>	haha, well its like, "who do you trust?" "me. thats who."
Mar 22 12:37:31 <thestringpuller>	mod6: is a lot like kanye: Can't tell him nothing"
Mar 22 12:37:43 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Mar 22 12:38:01 <mod6>	man fuck kanye
Mar 22 12:38:06 <thestringpuller>	oh plz
Mar 22 12:38:14 <thestringpuller>	Kanye is aight.
Mar 22 12:38:29 <thestringpuller>	Cut him some slack.
Mar 22 12:38:34 <mod6>	lol
Mar 22 12:38:40 <thestringpuller>	He got dope ass beats.
Mar 22 12:38:44 <mod6>	well, kanye aint got shit on mod6
Mar 22 12:38:46 *	unbalanced_away is now known as unbalanced
Mar 22 12:38:54 <mod6>	i do this shit
Mar 22 12:39:13 <splnkr>	drop a gem kid
Mar 22 12:39:19 <thestringpuller>	if you had kanye money you could probably be an MPEX whale
Mar 22 12:40:10 <mod6>	we'll see.
Mar 22 12:40:50 <mod6>	anyway, yeah busy as a motherfucker. and basically bitotter works -- kinda... its very close, but i stopped dev because I don't think that its secure enough.
Mar 22 12:41:00 <mod6>	i mean, how can i trust anyone to not steal the code?
Mar 22 12:41:39 <mod6>	and i worry that it wouldn't be up to MPs standard without a lot more testing and transparency.
Mar 22 12:41:45 <mod6>	i should just open source it maybe...
Mar 22 12:41:47 <mod6>	i dunno
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Mar 22 12:42:08 <mod6>	knock off that away shit
Mar 22 12:42:39 <mod6>	young jeezy gave me the motiviation though...
Mar 22 12:42:46 <mod6>	i just need to stay on my grind.
Mar 22 12:42:53 <thestringpuller>	mod six, hackin on da unix, gotta fix it: this mixed up shit, cause the client's half retarded, so he get bombarded, 8 hours a day, with minimum pay. fuck dat, i got coin, so suck my loin.
Mar 22 12:42:54 <mod6>	hard to find time with all this shit going on.
Mar 22 12:43:07 <mod6>	haha
Mar 22 12:43:15 <thestringpuller>	boom bootstrapped a rap for you
Mar 22 12:43:24 <thestringpuller>	quit yo job, get some beats
Mar 22 12:43:27 <thestringpuller>	sell albums for btc
Mar 22 12:43:31 <thestringpuller>	i get 1%
Mar 22 12:43:39 <thestringpuller>	:)
Mar 22 12:43:42 <mod6>	haha werd. i got this guy...
Mar 22 12:43:53 <mod6>	he does music production for MN Fats
Mar 22 12:44:20 <mod6>	he's been skepitcal about btc for a long time... but i gave him a paper wallet of like .1
Mar 22 12:44:32 <thestringpuller>	that's a lot these days lol
Mar 22 12:44:36 <mod6>	so now we'll see. maybe you can do some raps or something with him if he gets more involved
Mar 22 12:44:45 <mod6>	*shrug* who knows
Mar 22 12:45:34 <mod6>	i think to finish bitotter, i need to finally take a vacation (haven't had one in 7 years) and just lock myself in a room for the entire time.
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Mar 22 12:47:04 <thestringpuller>	headlines: "MPEX user found dead in local MN apartment, after drinking 90 red bulls"
Mar 22 12:47:17 <mod6>	s/red bulls/rockstars/
Mar 22 12:47:23 <mod6>	i had to give that up actually.
Mar 22 12:47:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009822 = 0.0295 BTC [-]
Mar 22 12:47:46 <mod6>	because before btc, i was doing a start up in downtown st. paul and i thought i was srsly gonna have a heart attack
Mar 22 12:48:17 <mod6>	i like the rockstar punch though
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Mar 22 12:49:00 <thestringpuller>	blargh and it's work time already, luckily I just have bash scripts to write today
Mar 22 12:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.81000001 BTC [-]
Mar 22 12:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.81 = 3.62 BTC [-]
Mar 22 12:49:06 <mod6>	8 hours a day, with minimum pay. << more like 69 hours a day
Mar 22 12:49:15 <mod6>	aight man.
Mar 22 12:49:31 <mod6>	yeah, just got off the phone with these dudes in ukraine... this shit is so hard to manage. its bad.
Mar 22 12:49:36 <thestringpuller>	Unix - solved every problem 30 years ago (but people still reinvent the real)
Mar 22 12:49:40 <mod6>	i can't wait until i can just do btc stuff full time
Mar 22 12:49:43 <thestringpuller>	wheel*
Mar 22 12:49:43 <mod6>	sick of this shit
Mar 22 12:50:02 <thestringpuller>	quit yo job and tell the GF that you guys are eating ramen for the next year
Mar 22 12:50:11 <mod6>	yeah, she's off her rocker
Mar 22 12:50:27 <mod6>	i gotta bounce from her if I think i'm gonna nerd out with you guys 100%
Mar 22 12:50:37 <mod6>	maybe im off my rocker.
Mar 22 12:50:41 <mod6>	<.<
Mar 22 12:50:42 <thestringpuller>	give up that pussy-cat, no looking back?
Mar 22 12:50:48 <thestringpuller>	you cray cray
Mar 22 12:50:57 <mod6>	haha, i'm divorced
Mar 22 12:51:07 <mod6>	puss hasn't even been a problem
Mar 22 12:51:49 <mod6>	one year my ex came to defcon with me. they were like "oh wow, an attractive girl?! she gets in for free."
Mar 22 12:52:05 <mod6>	but in the end, i was too nuts for her.
Mar 22 12:52:19 <thestringpuller>	nerds with attractive girls lol
Mar 22 12:53:06 <mod6>	yeah. luckally when im tryin to find some girls i basically don't tell them im in IT
Mar 22 12:53:56 <mod6>	infact, long ago girls would be like "oh what do you do?" and I'd be like, "oh i'm a programmer!!" they'd be like "bah... computers?!...<walk away>"
Mar 22 12:54:13 <mod6>	so i used to just lie to 'em and tell 'em i was in finance
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Mar 22 12:54:23 <mod6>	that gets 'em wet
Mar 22 12:54:46 <mod6>	haha, whatever
Mar 22 12:54:53 *	mod6 goes back to slavery
Mar 22 12:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.81 BTC [-]
Mar 22 12:55:51 <mod6>	im starting to hate american girls too
Mar 22 12:55:52 <mod6>	:/
Mar 22 12:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.8 = 9 BTC [-]
Mar 22 12:56:27 <mod6>	they are just obnoxious as all fuck, and only give a shit bout how much shit you're going to pay for.
Mar 22 12:56:37 <mod6>	that shit is weak as fuck.
Mar 22 12:56:42 <thestringpuller>	usually I tell girls I'm a programmer
Mar 22 12:56:43 <thestringpuller>	they laugh
Mar 22 12:56:46 <thestringpuller>	then I pay for stuff
Mar 22 12:56:51 <mod6>	seee ^^^
Mar 22 12:56:53 <thestringpuller>	and they want that D
Mar 22 12:56:57 <mod6>	hahaha
Mar 22 12:57:15 <thestringpuller>	I'm working on an impresario business using mircea's bond model for funding.
Mar 22 12:57:42 <mod6>	cool.
Mar 22 12:57:56 <thestringpuller>	so that's my new mode for women
Mar 22 12:58:06 <thestringpuller>	"yea i threw this awesome rave."
Mar 22 12:59:20 <mod6>	i need to be more like MP and just demand skull for anything
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Mar 22 13:00:11 <thestringpuller>	then move to romania?
Mar 22 13:00:18 <mod6>	maybe
Mar 22 13:00:38 <smickles>	anyone want some P310T?
Mar 22 13:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	hi all
Mar 22 13:00:49 <mod6>	hi
Mar 22 13:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	p310 ?! omg ?
Mar 22 13:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 22 13:00:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.17002, Best ask: 71.43000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25998, Last trade: 71.17002, 24 hour volume: 72873.11904166, 24 hour low: 68.90583, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 72.06906
Mar 22 13:00:53 <smickles>	howdy :)
Mar 22 13:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	jeez smix you gave me a start there
Mar 22 13:01:08 <smickles>	loool
Mar 22 13:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	i was like wait what ? is that itm ?
Mar 22 13:01:31 <thestringpuller>	deep itm
Mar 22 13:01:43 <thestringpuller>	like a vagina
Mar 22 13:01:45 <thestringpuller>	jk
Mar 22 13:01:57 <smickles>	looks like i'm selling at about .008ish
Mar 22 13:03:06 <thestringpuller>	;calc .01 * 70
Mar 22 13:03:11 <thestringpuller>	;;calc .01 * 70
Mar 22 13:03:11 <gribble>	0.7
Mar 22 13:03:21 <thestringpuller>	I could have done that in my head...
Mar 22 13:03:48 <mod6>	so does anyone know what happend to gox again?
Mar 22 13:04:06 <mod6>	just, same as usual??
Mar 22 13:04:20 <smickles>	less than a buck to secure against the coming crash
Mar 22 13:04:22 <smickles>	;)
Mar 22 13:05:12 <mod6>	how many
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Mar 22 13:05:27 <smickles>	mod6: 26
Mar 22 13:05:45 <jcpham>	i've got a bet for 1 btc that we see $100 before we see $60
Mar 22 13:05:57 <jcpham>	i don't make bets i can't afford to lose
Mar 22 13:06:52 <mod6>	;;asks 74
Mar 22 13:06:55 <gribble>	There are currently 14123.224 bitcoins offered at or under 74.0 USD, worth 1041651.49949 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Mar 22 13:07:04 <mod6>	;;asks 75
Mar 22 13:07:04 <gribble>	There are currently 23081.901 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 1710738.22608 USD in total. | Data vintage: 9.6104 seconds
Mar 22 13:07:09 <mod6>	hmm
Mar 22 13:07:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 73
Mar 22 13:07:28 <gribble>	There are currently 1320.1523 bitcoins offered at or under 73.0 USD, worth 96186.0854616 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.3853 seconds
Mar 22 13:08:17 <mod6>	maybe i do just need to take a week off and just sequester myself
Mar 22 13:08:29 <mod6>	man that sounds awesome actually.
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Mar 22 13:08:53 <mircea_popescu>	sequester yourself in a room with a bed and just sleep ?
Mar 22 13:09:01 <mod6>	na.
Mar 22 13:09:11 <mod6>	just to hack for a week on bitotter to wrap it up
Mar 22 13:09:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009822 BTC [-]
Mar 22 13:09:51 <mod6>	too damn busy to get enough time to dig in deep enough to make sure all the secuirty stuff is underwraps
Mar 22 13:10:04 <mod6>	its like, I need 8 hour blocks at a time min.
Mar 22 13:10:10 <mod6>	hard to come by for me these days.
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Mar 22 13:11:22 <mod6>	I guess if it gets to be too long, I might just open source the thing and let you guys work on it if you want to.
Mar 22 13:11:40 <benkay>	what's the thing?
Mar 22 13:11:49 <mod6>	my android tool for mpex
Mar 22 13:12:04 <mod6>	started it a long time ago, but i have 3 other jobs other than btc
Mar 22 13:12:23 <benkay>	i can see why you'd want to free the code :)
Mar 22 13:12:28 <mod6>	so im pretty swamped. and i have an overly demanding gf who eats up time.
Mar 22 13:12:41 <Namworld>	<@gribble> There are currently 1320.1523 bitcoins offered at or under 73.0 USD, worth 96186.0854616 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.3853 seconds
Mar 22 13:12:42 <Chilca>	mjr_: are you here?
Mar 22 13:12:44 <Namworld>	Lol
Mar 22 13:12:48 <Namworld>	Data vintage
Mar 22 13:13:12 <mod6>	last night she was all, "no. fuck you. you said you weren't going to talk with your dungons and dragons friends all night..."
Mar 22 13:13:15 <mod6>	hahaha
Mar 22 13:13:21 <mod6>	i can't win
Mar 22 13:13:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00439 = 0.0439 BTC [+]
Mar 22 13:13:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.004477 = 0.0224 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 13:14:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.004638 = 0.9276 BTC [+]
Mar 22 13:14:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 74 @ 0.004638 = 0.3432 BTC [+]
Mar 22 13:14:29 <smickles>	http://i.imgur.com/PKM3G3O.png dang, 2 'less than 1's will do that
Mar 22 13:14:31 <Diablo-D3>	[01:12:29] <mod6> so im pretty swamped. and i have an overly demanding gf who eats up time.
Mar 22 13:14:35 <Diablo-D3>	then shes a girl, not a woman.
Mar 22 13:14:37 <Diablo-D3>	this is why I only date women.
Mar 22 13:14:46 <Namworld>	Girlfriends who don't like you hanging with anyone else? Sounds familiar.
Mar 22 13:14:48 <mod6>	well,she's probably older than you dickweed
Mar 22 13:15:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 86 @ 0.004639 = 0.399 BTC [+]
Mar 22 13:15:36 <Diablo-D3>	mod6: age has nothing to do with it
Mar 22 13:15:48 <Diablo-D3>	some girls never grow up
Mar 22 13:18:08 <Chilca>	jurov: how are you?
Mar 22 13:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 poor gf.
Mar 22 13:18:46 <asa1024>	females are dangerous to irc use
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Mar 22 13:18:51 <asa1024>	beware
Mar 22 13:19:19 <deadweasel>	that's why I use it mostly at work, and just check it at home, make sure you all didn't break BTC
Mar 22 13:19:22 <deadweasel>	;)
Mar 22 13:19:39 <deadweasel>	ssh from my ipad to my box.
Mar 22 13:19:45 <deadweasel>	yay!
Mar 22 13:19:57 <mod6>	yeah Diablo-D3, my bad, yeah, she's just like all the others :/
Mar 22 13:20:21 <mod6>	just wish i didn't have to work my everyday job.
Mar 22 13:20:31 <mod6>	job(s)
Mar 22 13:20:38 <deadweasel>	mod6 nix guys are in high demand
Mar 22 13:20:46 <deadweasel>	why you suffering for these many jobs?
Mar 22 13:20:52 <mod6>	yeah, they're blowing me up all the time for different jobs.
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Mar 22 13:21:07 <deadweasel>	you gotta nail your contract down so every phone call is a separate charge
Mar 22 13:21:12 <mod6>	well... i dunno. i guess im just lame.
Mar 22 13:21:15 <deadweasel>	and raise your prices
Mar 22 13:21:25 <mod6>	i wish i could.
Mar 22 13:21:26 <deadweasel>	until you can't get anymore work, then lower them a tiny bit
Mar 22 13:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 ya srsly, they have a point. if you have three jobs make each offers for 50% what you're making now, upfront
Mar 22 13:21:41 <mircea_popescu>	at least 1 won't go for it
Mar 22 13:21:47 <mircea_popescu>	so now you have two jobs and the same dough
Mar 22 13:22:06 <deadweasel>	ah, i like that too  ^^
Mar 22 13:22:09 <mod6>	well, it was 3, now 2 of them mereged together, so its really like two.
Mar 22 13:22:16 <deadweasel>	ewww.
Mar 22 13:22:19 <deadweasel>	sound sticky
Mar 22 13:22:24 <mod6>	and basically i flipped out on these dudes a bunch of times.
Mar 22 13:22:29 <deadweasel>	find a new job, SINGULAR, for %50 more than you are making
Mar 22 13:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	m,erged together = hey, you know we used to pay you for two things ? well only pay you for one from now on
Mar 22 13:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	which consists of the two
Mar 22 13:22:44 <mod6>	now, i'm getting them to get other help, so that's been better, but its been hard to unwind all this stuff.
Mar 22 13:22:45 <deadweasel>	lol
Mar 22 13:22:52 <mod6>	lot of knowelege to transfer, etc.
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Mar 22 13:23:06 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: yeah, basically.
Mar 22 13:23:18 <mod6>	these guys are terrible.
Mar 22 13:23:41 <mod6>	i always seem to end up working for really terrible contracts or employers
Mar 22 13:23:51 <mod6>	*shrug*
Mar 22 13:24:03 <mod6>	anyway, hopefully i can be my own guy after this with btc
Mar 22 13:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	you gotta learn to tell people to fuck off.
Mar 22 13:24:11 <mod6>	then i can just work on what we need
Mar 22 13:24:31 <mod6>	haha, i DID tell them to fuck off about 49 times. but they're gonna sue if i pitch their stuff ina snowbank
Mar 22 13:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	so what arte they gonna sue for, your btc ?
Mar 22 13:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	your gf ?
Mar 22 13:24:50 <deadweasel>	hand it to them nicely and say, contract CANCELLED
Mar 22 13:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	by the way, if anyone wants a funny story : i hired a freelance guy to do my persian faq.
Mar 22 13:25:15 <benkay>	you guys
Mar 22 13:25:22 <benkay>	neither of you do contract software work
Mar 22 13:25:27 <mircea_popescu>	imo he did a good job, nice responsible young man so at the time i tipped him 1 btc
Mar 22 13:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	this was back when btc was like 15...
Mar 22 13:25:36 <mod6>	benkay: wut
Mar 22 13:25:44 <benkay>	dw and mp, mod6 not u
Mar 22 13:25:52 <mod6>	oh wer
Mar 22 13:25:53 <mod6>	d
Mar 22 13:25:57 <mircea_popescu>	benkay i sometimes do contract management of software work
Mar 22 13:26:12 <deadweasel>	i was contractor up until monday.
Mar 22 13:26:18 <deadweasel>	now I've got health insurance!
Mar 22 13:26:20 <deadweasel>	fuck yeah
Mar 22 13:26:22 <mod6>	anyway, i gotta finish unwinding this stuff then i'll be free of this obligation.
Mar 22 13:26:26 <benkay>	"a contractor != contract coder"
Mar 22 13:26:31 <deadweasel>	i'm gon go thow myself down a flight of stairs
Mar 22 13:26:39 <deadweasel>	benkay: ah yes, you're right
Mar 22 13:26:40 <taub>	clarkmoody keeps fucking up :(
Mar 22 13:26:42 <mod6>	wont be long i think.. the process is alreay in motion, and has been in motion since the beginning of this ydar.
Mar 22 13:26:45 <mod6>	*year
Mar 22 13:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 "the wheels are in motion... things are happening..."
Mar 22 13:26:57 <benkay>	manners and reputation are important to contractors.
Mar 22 13:27:45 <benkay>	not that they're not to everyone else.
Mar 22 13:27:47 <deadweasel>	i see where you are going.  but he shold not suffer un endingly because he's worried about what they might say
Mar 22 13:27:56 <mod6>	guys, im like a peon
Mar 22 13:28:12 <mod6>	when i first signed up with these guys, the first thing they did was sue VMWare
Mar 22 13:28:40 <deadweasel>	mod6, you must have some kind of skill, NIX guys are in HIGH demand, go find something better, where you are slightly respected and not peonized
Mar 22 13:28:41 <mod6>	anyway, i can't say any more.
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Mar 22 13:28:46 <deadweasel>	is peonized a word?
Mar 22 13:28:59 <mircea_popescu>	peonized is a wordized word.
Mar 22 13:29:13 <deadweasel>	sorry mod6, sholdn't be telling you what to do.
Mar 22 13:29:20 <deadweasel>	but my feelings are as I have stated
Mar 22 13:29:21 <mod6>	i know tons of shit, and can get stuff done. the problem is im poor and have no representation against these evil assholes.
Mar 22 13:29:33 <deadweasel>	if you're poor than you've got nothing to lose
Mar 22 13:29:42 <deadweasel>	you've never been better positioned to take the fucking world on
Mar 22 13:29:48 <deadweasel>	cos they can't take shit
Mar 22 13:29:53 <mod6>	well, basically yes. but, i've got some living situation that needs to be solved.
Mar 22 13:29:58 <mod6>	i can't go back to living inthe street again
Mar 22 13:30:02 <mod6>	at lesat not up here
Mar 22 13:30:04 <mod6>	too fucking cold
Mar 22 13:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 if you're poor you're immune.
Mar 22 13:30:17 <mod6>	i used to just live on peoples front porch couches after IBM
Mar 22 13:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	sueing only works against the middle class.
Mar 22 13:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	the rich will fuck you up and the poor literally don't care.
Mar 22 13:30:43 <mod6>	yeah, i'll fucking rage
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Mar 22 13:30:54 <mod6>	i need to stay out of jail
Mar 22 13:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	ya well i got news for you
Mar 22 13:31:05 <mod6>	and out of the hospital too, my health isn't super great :/
Mar 22 13:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	debtor jail went out in like1800s
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Mar 22 13:31:18 <deadweasel>	it's coming backin states mircea_popescu
Mar 22 13:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	so i heard lol
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Mar 22 13:31:38 <mod6>	jail is a part of life
Mar 22 13:31:38 <mircea_popescu>	they shoul;d just give up the pretense and just make the country a penitentiary.
Mar 22 13:31:45 <mod6>	its just, trying to not let them get you
Mar 22 13:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	they're obviously rebuilding soviet era russia, might as well
Mar 22 13:31:57 <mod6>	^^^^
Mar 22 13:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	everyone gets a cell in a cheapo concrete block like india
Mar 22 13:32:11 <mod6>	yeah, its a fucking nightmare over here
Mar 22 13:32:41 <deadweasel>	it is once you're in the legal system.
Mar 22 13:32:49 <mod6>	they just trump up some charges, and tell you well you can do 90 days for this, or you can go to trial and we'll trhow the book at you...
Mar 22 13:32:50 <deadweasel>	you're chewed up
Mar 22 13:33:12 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 and you say fuck you, this will be the trial of the century
Mar 22 13:33:23 <mircea_popescu>	and then get the jury to annul
Mar 22 13:33:25 <deadweasel>	not if he can't afford a lawyer
Mar 22 13:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	which breaks the law outright.
Mar 22 13:33:37 <mircea_popescu>	you don't need a lawyer to fuck them up. you just need to know the law.
Mar 22 13:33:42 <mod6>	true
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Mar 22 13:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	if you can learn to code you can learn the law.
Mar 22 13:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	there's scarce difference.
Mar 22 13:34:19 <mod6>	well, if they ever try to get me for BTC, ill just do what hitler did
Mar 22 13:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	haha don't be silly.
Mar 22 13:34:30 <deadweasel>	but to be at the level of senior engineer, a lawyer would need 10 yrs exp in a particular part of the law
Mar 22 13:34:38 <mod6>	well, what i mean is, in his trial
Mar 22 13:34:39 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel not true.
Mar 22 13:34:55 <mircea_popescu>	it takes 10 year for the senior engineer to gain his reputation with others
Mar 22 13:34:56 <mod6>	he just stood up there and told everyone his side of things for like three days lol
Mar 22 13:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	not to gain his knowledge of coding
Mar 22 13:35:09 <mod6>	then they only gave him like 3 years after the beer hall putch
Mar 22 13:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	that's done in four motnhs when he's 19
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Mar 22 13:35:20 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 o that. yeah
Mar 22 13:35:22 <jurov>	Chilca: hi, all fine
Mar 22 13:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	thought you meant the bunker suicide
Mar 22 13:35:32 <deadweasel>	me too
Mar 22 13:35:42 <deadweasel>	i was like, none of that pls
Mar 22 13:35:42 <mod6>	haha mircea_popescu, na.
Mar 22 13:35:59 <deadweasel>	jesus christ, did I just say "i was like"
Mar 22 13:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	yes. i infected you. totally.
Mar 22 13:36:06 <deadweasel>	i'm REVERSE AGING!
Mar 22 13:36:39 <deadweasel>	fuck me, I'm still at work......  gonna go pretend for a bit.
Mar 22 13:36:46 <mod6>	anyway, this is far off into the weeds!
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Mar 22 13:37:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 49 @ 0.0047 = 0.2303 BTC [-]
Mar 22 13:37:26 <Namworld>	I think deadweasel is the key to rejuvenation. I suggest we ground him to a thin powder and make pills.
Mar 22 13:37:35 <deadweasel>	thanks for entertaining our opinions mod6
Mar 22 13:37:36 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 22 13:37:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.27110, Best ask: 71.79950, Bid-ask spread: 0.52840, Last trade: 71.79950, 24 hour volume: 67908.09473960, 24 hour low: 68.90583, 24 hour high: 74.00000, 24 hour vwap: 71.94412
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Mar 22 13:37:46 <deadweasel>	it's likely, Namworld
Mar 22 13:37:49 <mod6>	deadweasel: ok :}
Mar 22 13:37:54 <mod6>	sorry for all the chatter.
Mar 22 13:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't swallow dead weasel pills
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Mar 22 13:38:07 <mod6>	i just need to get some of this personal stuff sorted so i have more time for you guys.
Mar 22 13:38:09 <deadweasel>	you'd swallow deadweasel nuts though
Mar 22 13:38:13 <deadweasel>	:P
Mar 22 13:38:39 <deadweasel>	mod6, you need more time for you first, then you might be more useful here, for whatever it is y'all are doing.  options i think
Mar 22 13:38:49 <Namworld>	You don't have to tell people it's dead weasel. Just label them as reverse aging pills. Sell them for 2 BTC a piece since it's very complex chemicals...
Mar 22 13:38:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.004 = 0.04 BTC [-]
Mar 22 13:39:02 <deadweasel>	in fact, i'm selling those.
Mar 22 13:39:08 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: my local Russian grocery actually sells pills claiming to be made from dead weasels.
Mar 22 13:39:16 <deadweasel>	2 btc each, might look like benadryl, but really is reverse aging
Mar 22 13:39:21 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform buy me some ?
Mar 22 13:39:30 <deadweasel>	asciilifeform: me too
Mar 22 13:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	add to my collection
Mar 22 13:39:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/stabilizarea-vaginului/ <<< vagoo stabilizers
Mar 22 13:40:31 <benkay>	wat
Mar 22 13:40:42 <mircea_popescu>	vagostabyl, the vaginal stabilizer pill.
Mar 22 13:40:48 <benkay>	o i can read thank you
Mar 22 13:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	yw :D
Mar 22 13:40:53 <benkay>	just expressing emotions
Mar 22 13:40:58 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: here's a photo: http://greenapteka.com/zen_cart/images/Barsuchiy%20shir_capsules.jpg
Mar 22 13:41:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 34 @ 0.0038 = 0.1292 BTC [-]
Mar 22 13:41:31 <deadweasel>	benkay: lol
Mar 22 13:41:49 <benkay>	are you guys familiar with the famous wat talk?
Mar 22 13:41:58 <benkay>	i know this isn't a super dev-y group, but some of you might enjoy
Mar 22 13:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha seems legit
Mar 22 13:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	how much are they ?
Mar 22 13:42:04 <benkay>	and the rest are smart enough to get it
Mar 22 13:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	nop
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Mar 22 13:42:27 <benkay>	https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
Mar 22 13:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	omg ban him
Mar 22 13:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	how dares he say we're not devvy
Mar 22 13:42:37 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: they were behind the counter, so presumably not cheap. I didn't ask...
Mar 22 13:43:57 <deadweasel>	the drugs they sell here at least get you high
Mar 22 13:43:59 <benkay>	super dev-y!
Mar 22 13:44:03 <benkay>	gosh
Mar 22 13:44:08 <benkay>	intentional misconstrue.
Mar 22 13:44:14 <benkay>	for the LOSE.
Mar 22 13:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 22 13:44:42 <benkay>	fucking troll, you.
Mar 22 13:44:51 <benkay>	99% of the time you're serious
Mar 22 13:44:54 <benkay>	impossible to call troll on
Mar 22 13:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	girls say this to me all the time.
Mar 22 13:45:06 <benkay>	even when you say things like "nigger nigger nigger nigger"
Mar 22 13:45:36 <benkay>	i am going to adopt this attitude.
Mar 22 13:45:49 <benkay>	"you have no idea if i'm serious or not!"
Mar 22 13:45:52 <benkay>	hey guise
Mar 22 13:45:57 <benkay>	i'm launching a mining company
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Mar 22 13:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.54399999 BTC [+]
Mar 22 13:46:04 <benkay>	we're going to collect giveaway raspberry pis
Mar 22 13:46:07 <benkay>	and mine with them
Mar 22 13:46:21 <benkay>	then give the bitcoins to afurka
Mar 22 13:46:22 <mod6>	perhaps epic trolls are always built on uncertainty
Mar 22 13:46:36 <benkay>	probably, right?
Mar 22 13:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform isn't that a badger ?
Mar 22 13:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	benkay part of my charm!
Mar 22 13:47:08 <deadweasel>	a badger is a weasel
Mar 22 13:47:12 <mircea_popescu>	list it on bitbillions.com
Mar 22 13:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	but for the record we're savvy devvy[ous] over here.
Mar 22 13:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel shush you. how's the russian to know
Mar 22 13:47:54 <deadweasel>	i can't let my fellow badgers be excluded
Mar 22 13:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.451001 = 3.608 BTC [-]
Mar 22 13:48:33 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: yeah, it is a badger, isn't it. They also had: "Groundhog Fat: Enriched!"
Mar 22 13:48:54 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156309.0 loller.
Mar 22 13:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.54399999 BTC [+]
Mar 22 13:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol enriched groundhog fat
Mar 22 13:49:16 <benkay>	friday is off-topic day?
Mar 22 13:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	but at least that's a folk remedy here as well
Mar 22 13:49:22 <benkay>	let's refocus
Mar 22 13:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	is it friday even ?
Mar 22 13:49:47 <benkay>	how would you go about using bitcoins to get fantastically wealthy while a country prints currency like crazy?
Mar 22 13:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	benkay you preorder basics
Mar 22 13:50:40 <asciilifeform>	benkay: start a (legal) pyramid scheme.
Mar 22 13:50:55 <benkay>	how do that, asciilifeform?
Mar 22 13:51:05 <benkay>	and mircea, basic staples?
Mar 22 13:51:11 <benkay>	bullets and canned beans and whatnot?
Mar 22 13:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	no, basic miners
Mar 22 13:51:23 <asciilifeform>	benkay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Mavrodi . or what MP said.
Mar 22 13:51:25 <benkay>	not necessary i have a pi far
Mar 22 13:51:27 <benkay>	farm
Mar 22 13:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	got him twice in an hour lol
Mar 22 13:51:39 <deadweasel>	shit lol
Mar 22 13:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	In 2007 Sergei Mavrodi was found guilty in a Russian court of defrauding 10,000 investors out of 110 million rubles ($4.3 million).
Mar 22 13:51:58 <benkay>	peanuts!
Mar 22 13:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, i bet you that's the banking mavrodi fambly.
Mar 22 13:52:11 <benkay>	peanuts i tell you.
Mar 22 13:52:57 <benkay>	i hear no good ideas.
Mar 22 13:53:14 <benkay>	you all fail at exploiting failing sovereigns.
Mar 22 13:53:45 <asciilifeform>	benkay: I hear protection rackets are a good investment: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/03/where-theres-no-government.html
Mar 22 13:53:47 <deadweasel>	it's more like we are rotting from the inside out, for the US anyways.
Mar 22 13:54:02 <benkay>	too much work, asciilifeform.
Mar 22 13:54:02 <deadweasel>	yeah, get into the hired gun biz
Mar 22 13:54:18 <benkay>	plus you actually have to deal with the underclass
Mar 22 13:54:22 <benkay>	show some imagination, folks!
Mar 22 13:54:28 <asciilifeform>	benkay: the minions do the work
Mar 22 13:54:46 <benkay>	like, buy assets on the local stock exchange. is good idea?
Mar 22 13:54:47 <deadweasel>	whore yourself to congress and then blackmail?
Mar 22 13:55:20 <benkay>	deadweasel: i prefer to be the one purchasing sex, and i don't find myself attracted to vote-grubbers.
Mar 22 13:56:33 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform jesus christ that sounds as a complete rewrite of an article i wrote in like 2010
Mar 22 13:56:47 <mircea_popescu>	since its unlikely that guy reads romanian, i'd say woot! people are getting it!
Mar 22 13:56:54 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: collapse veterans think quite alike.
Mar 22 13:57:12 <benkay>	orlov's old news, mircea
Mar 22 13:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	i guess once you've seen her whore out you'll never buy into the virgin mary theory again.
Mar 22 13:57:28 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: Orlov has been writing since the mid-2000s
Mar 22 13:57:57 <kakobrekla>	so
Mar 22 13:57:59 <kakobrekla>	whats the news
Mar 22 13:58:39 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla 31 puts are in the money now.
Mar 22 13:58:58 <kakobrekla>	hrm?
Mar 22 13:59:04 <asciilifeform>	unrelated: anyone have thoughts re: "satcoin" (http://jheusser.github.com/2013/02/03/satcoin.html) ?
Mar 22 13:59:19 <kakobrekla>	satan coin?
Mar 22 13:59:38 <kakobrekla>	Luke-Jr gonna merge mine with it'
Mar 22 13:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	satancoin ?! lol srsly ?
Mar 22 14:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	o it's a sat solver
Mar 22 14:00:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.79696 = 1.5939 BTC [+]
Mar 22 14:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.544 = 2.176 BTC [+]
Mar 22 14:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	ok this is actually interesting.
Mar 22 14:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform you working on that ?
Mar 22 14:02:09 <benkay>	oh look. a reason for miners to use a stack other than the hairball.
Mar 22 14:02:14 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I can't bring myself to read the btc forums, did anyone discuss it there?
Mar 22 14:02:31 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: and no, this wasn't my idea. I may or may not have a better one, however.
Mar 22 14:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik.
Mar 22 14:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	you know you can work on other people's ideas just like you can work on other people's daughters
Mar 22 14:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	no requirement to keep it in the house.
Mar 22 14:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.5451 = 5.9961 BTC [+]
Mar 22 14:03:22 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: well yes. and cryproanalytic attacks on hashes aren't new, per se.
Mar 22 14:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 22 14:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	the bruteforce approach is solid and obvious
Mar 22 14:03:57 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: but yes, that's the only sort of BTC mining I'm personally interested in (well, that and optical computers.)
Mar 22 14:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	but i always suspected this is going to be the one way we end up with ai
Mar 22 14:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [-]
Mar 22 14:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	because i always thought that minsky & all may be nice and good
Mar 22 14:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	but ai won't exist until there's an edge application which makes money.
Mar 22 14:04:55 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: bruteforce mining is a contest of fiat bank accounts (and perhaps botnets.) I prefer contests of wits.
Mar 22 14:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	ai isn't wits, really. but anyway, i always imagined the headlines. "bitcoin provokes singularity"
Mar 22 14:05:31 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77870.msg1659386#msg1659386
Mar 22 14:05:32 <kakobrekla>	http://www.bitcoin2013.com/
Mar 22 14:06:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 12 @ 0.009822 = 0.1179 BTC [-]
Mar 22 14:06:33 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, you gonna go tell them whats up?
Mar 22 14:06:34 <kakobrekla>	http://www.bitcoin2013.com/bitcoin-2013-panelists.html
Mar 22 14:06:36 <deadweasel>	mircea_popescu: it's happening, BTC is a huge push towards it, the algorithms that come out of this could fuel future AI
Mar 22 14:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	so i'm currently eating nutella dipped figs.
Mar 22 14:06:42 <asciilifeform>	wouldn't it be riotously funny if a 386 eventually outhashes the ASICs...
Mar 22 14:06:44 <mircea_popescu>	anyone ever tried that ?
Mar 22 14:06:47 <kakobrekla>	theres tihan
Mar 22 14:06:51 <kakobrekla>	at least no taaki
Mar 22 14:07:07 <kakobrekla>	meh
Mar 22 14:07:11 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla o i c, the "community"
Mar 22 14:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	total pedosmile on hearn
Mar 22 14:09:18 <kakobrekla>	and
Mar 22 14:09:18 <kakobrekla>	Johnathan (Yoni) Assia is the CEO of eToro, the world’s largest social investment network. He has shown an interest in finance and computer science since his youth and so decided to merge his passions.
Mar 22 14:09:30 <kakobrekla>	why the hell would he be talking
Mar 22 14:10:03 <kakobrekla>	buncha bitcoin lamers.
Mar 22 14:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla listen, this is how conferences work in any biz
Mar 22 14:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	people with not much better to do.
Mar 22 14:10:51 <kakobrekla>	:\
Mar 22 14:11:01 <ThickAsThieves>	heyo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1659420#msg1659420
Mar 22 14:11:10 <Namworld>	mircea: no, but odly enough that sounds good.
Mar 22 14:11:26 <Namworld>	I like plain figs tho...
Mar 22 14:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	it's great you should try it sometime
Mar 22 14:13:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762 BTC [-]
Mar 22 14:13:28 <benkay>	I learned this thing about conferences recently
Mar 22 14:13:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7612 BTC [-]
Mar 22 14:13:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7612 = 7.612 BTC [-]
Mar 22 14:13:59 <kakobrekla>	benkay which thing
Mar 22 14:14:12 <benkay>	that they're filled with people with not enough to do
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Mar 22 14:15:04 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like no profits for sdice this month
Mar 22 14:15:22 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves in fairness, it's above ev anyway.
Mar 22 14:15:47 <mircea_popescu>	if it loses another 6k or so it'd just make things "fair"
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Mar 22 14:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	This week meets more stagnancy of deploying. But in the last few days we poured 0.5TH/s into our mining farm as the installing of power cables in the new place goes on. The total hashrate grows much less than this, mostly possibly because of the bottleneck in our local network setting. We are still identifying and fixing the problem.
Mar 22 14:16:38 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 22 14:16:40 <mircea_popescu>	so asicminer still not at the adverised 12th
Mar 22 14:16:40 <kakobrekla>	dump sdice
Mar 22 14:16:42 <kakobrekla>	buy bbet
Mar 22 14:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	has it reached 5k bet already ?
Mar 22 14:17:17 <jborkl>	It was bound to happen , a bad month- every business has good and bad months
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Mar 22 14:17:28 <kakobrekla>	o we are at 4.5k now
Mar 22 14:17:30 <kakobrekla>	a day or three more
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Mar 22 14:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1659432#msg1659432
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Mar 22 14:18:33 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha so jgarzik wants to code an exchange.
Mar 22 14:18:39 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Mar 22 14:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	i guess we will have > 9000 of them by the time year's out
Mar 22 14:19:08 <kakobrekla>	the exchanges will need to modfiy their operating models once ill put btc/usd in MT4
Mar 22 14:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	this is the problem with "Devteam". they're not devs, they're kids looking to impress.
Mar 22 14:19:17 <kakobrekla>	they will transform to brokers
Mar 22 14:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	this by definition fails to impress.
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Mar 22 14:22:59 <asciilifeform>	anyone know if someone ever built a miner out of discrete emitter-coupled logic (or gallium arsenide, or the like) ?
Mar 22 14:24:05 <mircea_popescu>	afaik never hapened.
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Mar 22 14:24:17 <MJR__>	hi all
Mar 22 14:25:09 <ThickAsThieves>	wow i got an answer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1659490#msg1659490
Mar 22 14:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves nice q re asicminer
Mar 22 14:29:06 <Doffx>	What will the next div look like for the Asic miner PT's?
Mar 22 14:29:14 <ThickAsThieves>	hard to say
Mar 22 14:29:20 <ThickAsThieves>	there will be a difficulty change
Mar 22 14:29:28 <Doffx>	whats a good guess?
Mar 22 14:29:31 <ThickAsThieves>	avalons are slowly hopping on the network
Mar 22 14:29:37 <Diablo-D3>	the div seems to be getting bigger though
Mar 22 14:29:41 <ThickAsThieves>	a good guess is half what they were last time
Mar 22 14:29:59 <Doffx>	.015 ish then, still seems decent.
Mar 22 14:30:09 <ThickAsThieves>	it is
Mar 22 14:30:15 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1658664#msg1658664
Mar 22 14:30:15 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 22 14:30:29 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: I really doubt half
Mar 22 14:30:36 <Namworld>	and they already paid for manufacturing 50 more TH I think
Mar 22 14:30:41 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: remember, friedcat hasnt gotten all of the 15th online yet
Mar 22 14:30:46 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: yeah
Mar 22 14:30:54 <Diablo-D3>	and the total farm will be around 60 th
Mar 22 14:30:56 <Namworld>	that too... hopefully they can get their shit together
Mar 22 14:32:11 <ThickAsThieves>	he just asked what the next div might be
Mar 22 14:32:17 <ThickAsThieves>	half is a fair guess
Mar 22 14:32:23 <Doffx>	Yeah, I like the answer
Mar 22 14:32:24 <Doffx>	:)
Mar 22 14:32:50 <ThickAsThieves>	they might get another 1th online before then
Mar 22 14:32:55 <ThickAsThieves>	tahts my guess
Mar 22 14:33:11 <ThickAsThieves>	and i'm the expert here bro!
Mar 22 14:33:25 <Doffx>	Haha, I just needed a rough estimation
Mar 22 14:33:42 <ThickAsThieves>	just joshin ;)
Mar 22 14:33:53 <Doffx>	I haven't been following anything in the asset world for a while
Mar 22 14:34:00 <kakobrekla>	any word from josh'
Mar 22 14:34:22 <Doffx>	DId they eat all the chips
Mar 22 14:34:26 <[\\\]>	kakobrekla: "coming soon"
Mar 22 14:35:41 <jurov>	so, i've read the scrollback and some links. and all i'm remembering is that mircea tried to stabilize a vagina by poring concrete.
Mar 22 14:35:50 <jurov>	*pouring
Mar 22 14:36:18 <deadweasel>	out of a powdered dead weasel's anus
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Mar 22 14:38:42 <mod6>	;;rate 1 thestringpuller Joined the BitOTTer project!
Mar 22 14:38:42 <gribble>	Error: 'thestringpuller' is not a valid integer.
Mar 22 14:38:48 <mod6>	bah
Mar 22 14:38:56 <mod6>	;;rate thestringpuller 1 Joined the BitOTTer project!
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Mar 22 14:38:58 <kakobrekla>	;;rate thestringpuller
Mar 22 14:38:58 <gribble>	(rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.
Mar 22 14:38:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 37 @ 0.08258454 = 3.0556 BTC [+]
Mar 22 14:39:02 <kakobrekla>	;;rated thestringpuller
Mar 22 14:39:03 <gribble>	You have not yet rated user thestringpuller
Mar 22 14:39:30 <smickles>	[\\\], must be making a killing off that "coming soon" ™
Mar 22 14:39:48 <smickles>	and all these asics
Mar 22 14:40:28 <mod6>	;;rate smickles 3 Some previous trades on OTC. Joined the BitOTTer project!
Mar 22 14:40:29 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user smickles has changed from 3 to 3.
Mar 22 14:41:29 <mod6>	i <3 this channel
Mar 22 14:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lolz. check out asciilifeform's mining link.
Mar 22 14:42:26 <mod6>	if anyone would like to help out with the BitOTTer project, send me a PM or join us in #BitOTTer
Mar 22 14:43:33 <jurov>	i have already seen it
Mar 22 14:43:38 <kakobrekla>	;;rate thestringpuller 1
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Mar 22 14:45:59 <MJR__>	;;ticker
Mar 22 14:46:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.55000, Best ask: 72.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45000, Last trade: 71.55000, 24 hour volume: 65236.36510509, 24 hour low: 68.90583, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 71.87573
Mar 22 14:47:10 <MJR__>	;;ticker, ;brc
Mar 22 14:47:11 <gribble>	Error: "ticker," is not a valid command.
Mar 22 14:47:47 <kakobrekla>	twitter suggest to follow britney spears to bitbet
Mar 22 14:48:18 <jurov>	we have been solving BNFs by hand in highshool. so have firsthand experience how NP-hard that stuff is with increasing number of variables
Mar 22 14:49:28 <kakobrekla>	ltc is back to 0.006 i see :)
Mar 22 14:49:55 <jurov>	4 bits/variables - trivial, 5/6 bits - solvable by hand if you have time and patience
Mar 22 14:50:22 <jurov>	up to 20 bits - fully solvable by computer
Mar 22 14:50:53 <jurov>	anything beyond that, you can only stab in the problem and hope you'll get something close anoutgh to minimal
Mar 22 14:51:04 <jurov>	*enough
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Mar 22 14:52:12 <benkay>	are we talking about SAT solving?
Mar 22 14:52:15 <jurov>	yes
Mar 22 14:52:47 <MJR__>	doesn't sat solving get easier
Mar 22 14:52:57 <MJR__>	over time?
Mar 22 14:53:42 <jurov>	generally when computers get 2x more powerful, you can solve one bit more
Mar 22 14:54:19 <jurov>	so it will really take some time till we arrive to 160 or 256 bits
Mar 22 14:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	fresh from the mp evil rants department : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/of-mice-and-men-revisited/
Mar 22 14:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	jurov depends if they actually get a breakthrough.
Mar 22 14:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	this isn't a universal np problem they're approaching but a well defined subset
Mar 22 14:57:21 <jurov>	yes, that's also possible.
Mar 22 14:57:41 <mircea_popescu>	that's i think the motivating factor : one clever idea, lots of value in it.
Mar 22 14:58:13 <jurov>	oh mp, have you seen i coined a new term befitting teh community? "mining scene"
Mar 22 14:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Mar 22 14:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	as in buncha hipsters ?
Mar 22 14:59:03 <jurov>	https://twitter.com/coin_br << like, used here
Mar 22 14:59:41 <jurov>	we reviewed mining scene
Mar 22 15:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol k
Mar 22 15:00:26 <benkay>	"I fire twentysomethings of his particular school of mental retardation "
Mar 22 15:00:36 <benkay>	fire them for making mistakes, or insisting the mistakes are the software's problem?
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Mar 22 15:01:08 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the "I fire..." quote reads like "I expel rabid badgers from my house every day."
Mar 22 15:01:18 <benkay>	(which is actually their problem by proxy they just don't get it)
Mar 22 15:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	well... kinda what it is.
Mar 22 15:01:23 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: one naturally wants to ask: why were they there?
Mar 22 15:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	benkay in general it goes EXACTLY like the bitcoin shit went down.
Mar 22 15:01:48 <mircea_popescu>	new kid wants to improve X with Y supertechnology we old stuffies don't know abou
Mar 22 15:01:48 <tiberiusiv>	BFL is going to fail to deliver for 2 reasons
Mar 22 15:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	because we just dion't understand, maan
Mar 22 15:01:58 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: nice article
Mar 22 15:02:01 <tiberiusiv>	1) they are short asic 2) they are short BTC 3) they are long USD
Mar 22 15:02:09 <benkay>	mm
Mar 22 15:02:09 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: that is, why do you hire them?
Mar 22 15:02:14 <benkay>	want to talk more about this
Mar 22 15:02:17 <benkay>	but team lunch impends.
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Mar 22 15:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	i don't hire them, they just get hired.
Mar 22 15:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	in general the way things work in the western world is if you wish to be hired by X you wil be
Mar 22 15:02:45 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: at MPEx? what else "just happens" there?
Mar 22 15:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	just like university. if you wish to enroll you will.
Mar 22 15:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	now, finish there ? diff story.
Mar 22 15:02:56 <mircea_popescu>	no not at mpex
Mar 22 15:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5451 BTC [+]
Mar 22 15:03:18 <smickles>	asciilifeform: mircea_popescu does have a 'real' business
Mar 22 15:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	this discussion re hiring/firing ppl has nothing to do with mpex, it's my larger experience
Mar 22 15:03:43 <mircea_popescu>	i've not yet actually fired anyone at mpex. it's not quite large enough to have a hr to do mishiring
Mar 22 15:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	as you well observe.
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Mar 22 15:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv this is a point, they're unwittingly/unintentionally short both asic and btc
Mar 22 15:05:00 <smickles>	I wan't a scribe to follow me around and record my activities in iambic pentameter
Mar 22 15:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	that can't work well.
Mar 22 15:05:39 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: thats why basic failed and covered only 5% of their BTC shorts
Mar 22 15:06:29 <jurov>	bitvps really fits this mold, once respected company listed on mpex, now something with customer testimony on frontpage with dead link
Mar 22 15:06:44 <mod6>	:
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Mar 22 15:06:46 <mod6>	:/
Mar 22 15:07:00 <mod6>	i had high-hopes for bvps
Mar 22 15:07:06 <jurov>	i can't resist trolling them... hosting company with deal customer link on frontpage, wtf?
Mar 22 15:07:12 <jurov>	*dead
Mar 22 15:08:26 <jurov>	seem nice tiled background is more important for'em.
Mar 22 15:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, benkay : new kid wants to impress everyone with his cool skills. is warned about what the failure modes are and what is expected and what to check.
Mar 22 15:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	he proceeds to just code, never check, never design for fault tolerance, nothing
Mar 22 15:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	then he explains that it's not his fault
Mar 22 15:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	then he gets fired.
Mar 22 15:08:58 <deadweasel>	that is natural
Mar 22 15:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	natural means stupid in this context.
Mar 22 15:09:12 <deadweasel>	natural to fire him
Mar 22 15:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	coding is a high civilisation adventure, which means quite perverted
Mar 22 15:09:18 <mircea_popescu>	ie, not natural
Mar 22 15:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	ah. myea.
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Mar 22 15:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im really looking forward to more peeps with business / financial / legal / whoring / etc experience joining btc
Mar 22 15:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	as the tech matures.
Mar 22 15:14:59 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: yeah, because that worked out so well for personal computing (and later the Net)...
Mar 22 15:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	it did.
Mar 22 15:15:26 <deadweasel>	yeah
Mar 22 15:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	it worked wonderfully.
Mar 22 15:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	there's like 1 trillion worth of equipment deployed in support of the net atm
Mar 22 15:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	that would have NEVER existed otherwise.
Mar 22 15:16:08 <deadweasel>	also, BTC....
Mar 22 15:16:15 <deadweasel>	worked out pretty well for me
Mar 22 15:16:17 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: you speak as if that's evidence of effectiveness
Mar 22 15:16:20 <deadweasel>	and porno.
Mar 22 15:16:32 <MJR__>	but why is the goal to humiliate lol
Mar 22 15:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ it's not.
Mar 22 15:16:54 <MJR__>	I was kidding
Mar 22 15:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform just evidence of size.
Mar 22 15:16:59 <deadweasel>	immediately transferring information across the world instantaneously?  it's pretty sweet.
Mar 22 15:17:11 <MJR__>	I agree with you
Mar 22 15:17:16 <MJR__>	good article
Mar 22 15:17:21 <deadweasel>	asciilifeform: what is inneffective?
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Mar 22 15:17:28 <MJR__>	way more important to design a good system
Mar 22 15:18:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7612 = 2.2836 BTC [-]
Mar 22 15:18:02 <asciilifeform>	deadweasel: you know how failing organs sometime enlarge to unbelievable sizes? hearts the size of a basketball?
Mar 22 15:18:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.761102 = 7.611 BTC [-]
Mar 22 15:18:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.761102 = 1.5222 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 15:18:15 <deadweasel>	asciilifeform: yes
Mar 22 15:18:36 <deadweasel>	asciilifeform: are you saying the interwebz is going to arrest and stop working?
Mar 22 15:18:42 <mircea_popescu>	yes well, if you define the purpose of the net as "exchanging research papers" then it's totally hydropizic.
Mar 22 15:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	thing is much like btc, the net doesn't have a fixed purpose.
Mar 22 15:19:07 <deadweasel>	dafuq is hydropizic?
Mar 22 15:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	the condition of the enlarged hearth
Mar 22 15:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	emperor hadrianus had it
Mar 22 15:20:06 <deadweasel>	i see
Mar 22 15:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	they forbid him drink water. he has this elegia about water somewhere, about how great it is
Mar 22 15:20:23 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: do you live inside a hotel?
Mar 22 15:20:27 <mircea_popescu>	and how it sucks to be the emperor and not be able to have a motherfucking glass of water
Mar 22 15:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv nope
Mar 22 15:20:51 <asciilifeform>	Reminds me of: "I remember someone saying that if it hadn't been for automatic switches in the telephone network, the entire population of planet earth would have had to be telephone operators to handle the load of telephone usage in 1993 or thereabout.  I get the eerie feeling that because modern computer systems are so incredibly braindamaged in their design and in the tools used to program them, the entire po
Mar 22 15:20:51 <asciilifeform>	pulation of planet earth will be programming these idiotic boxes pretty soon..."  (https://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.misc/msg/39a8ab509dcb814?dmode=source&output=gplain)
Mar 22 15:22:00 <deadweasel>	asciilifeform: it's true, but that would be an improvement
Mar 22 15:22:02 <asciilifeform>	the net just barely works if you are thinking of a purpose other than exchanging spam, crapware, persilential ads, and idiocy.
Mar 22 15:22:10 <asciilifeform>	*pestilential
Mar 22 15:22:12 <deadweasel>	put robots in the mines, teach the miners to program them
Mar 22 15:22:23 <deadweasel>	net works great for me
Mar 22 15:22:31 <deadweasel>	unlesss I'm trying to use coinbase or mtgox
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Mar 22 15:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/mutatis-mutandis/ there, inside shots
Mar 22 15:24:19 <tiberiusiv>	whats the rent there
Mar 22 15:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	i've paid 22k for a year.
Mar 22 15:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	(lei)
Mar 22 15:25:13 <tiberiusiv>	whats that in btc
Mar 22 15:25:21 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: a slice of stake from the grocery also doesn't have a fixed purpose. you can cook and eat it, or put it out in the sun and wait for it to grow with thousands of flies.
Mar 22 15:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	hmm lessee
Mar 22 15:25:27 <asciilifeform>	growth!
Mar 22 15:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 22000 / 3.4 / 72
Mar 22 15:25:31 <gribble>	89.8692810458
Mar 22 15:25:49 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform steak ?
Mar 22 15:25:55 <asciilifeform>	more flies (users!) is good, right
Mar 22 15:26:05 <mircea_popescu>	depends how yo udefine it.
Mar 22 15:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	if you're trying to grow flies yes it is.
Mar 22 15:26:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.789 BTC [+]
Mar 22 15:26:30 <asciilifeform>	steak, yes
Mar 22 15:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	point being : to attack the internet today you need to contend with something 1 trn worth of large.
Mar 22 15:26:40 <mircea_popescu>	it wouldn't hurt btc to be in the same position.
Mar 22 15:26:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.796 = 7.96 BTC [+]
Mar 22 15:26:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7965 = 7.965 BTC [+]
Mar 22 15:26:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.79697 = 11.1576 BTC [+]
Mar 22 15:26:53 <asciilifeform>	nope, you just need the "NSAkey"
Mar 22 15:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	there's no nsakey.
Mar 22 15:27:18 <kakobrekla>	hm 400somethin euro per month
Mar 22 15:27:22 <kakobrekla>	is that a flat or a house
Mar 22 15:27:25 <mircea_popescu>	i get it, makes for a decent novel plot
Mar 22 15:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	but there's no nsakey
Mar 22 15:27:36 <asciilifeform>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY and whatever the modern equivalent is
Mar 22 15:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla house. i got a garden and there's also a 2nd floor
Mar 22 15:27:44 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: have you upgraded to tailored suits yet
Mar 22 15:27:54 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu cool makes sense then
Mar 22 15:27:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.8 = 14.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 15:28:13 <asciilifeform>	what fraction of BTC users use MSwin/macos?
Mar 22 15:28:14 <robonerd>	hey what's this channel for?
Mar 22 15:28:19 <mircea_popescu>	my suits are handweaved by teary eyed slves out of their own hair!
Mar 22 15:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform actually there's a lot of macos surprisingly
Mar 22 15:29:18 <asciilifeform>	if you run a popular commercial OS, you're uncle sam's bitch, whether you know it or not.
Mar 22 15:29:30 <robonerd>	yea true
Mar 22 15:29:50 <robonerd>	i want to buy in on a asic-based mining op. i only have $200 to invest
Mar 22 15:29:50 <asciilifeform>	this includes Cisco/Juniper backbones.
Mar 22 15:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform i think mpex quite clearly showed you don't have to be.
Mar 22 15:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	and if you choose to be...well... nothing wrong with that.
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Mar 22 15:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	robonerd perhaps asicminer if it's not overvalued iyo.
Mar 22 15:31:00 <asciilifeform>	mpex hums along because a bureaucrat hasn't hit the "dump all win32/osx machine's BTC wallets to one address" key yet.
Mar 22 15:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise i don't trust them things personally, but ymmv.
Mar 22 15:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform even if he had, it'd hum just as nicely.
Mar 22 15:31:42 <robonerd>	well how can i get in on the bitcoin surge? i'm an apple ios developer, i can write bitcoin related software to help ppl in exchange for btc mining hardware
Mar 22 15:31:44 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: hope you'll enjoy having him as the sole client, then
Mar 22 15:32:41 <mircea_popescu>	wouldn't be the sole client. you've seen the faq right ?
Mar 22 15:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	plenty of people are going the cold route.
Mar 22 15:33:16 <asciilifeform>	a cold wallet is only cold until you want to spend some?
Mar 22 15:33:24 <mircea_popescu>	robonerd i don't think anyone's lookingto give away hardware atm
Mar 22 15:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	one way to get in may be to just buy bitcoin, if you don't think it's overvalued atm
Mar 22 15:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform http://mpex.co/faq.html#18
Mar 22 15:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	Step 4. Your account is now set up, you can use it in full confidence. Yes, this includes the inconvenient step of transferring GPG-encoded strings from a cold machine to a hot machine.
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Mar 22 15:34:53 <mircea_popescu>	in practice most everyone uses a qr gun from what i understand.
Mar 22 15:34:55 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: yes, ok, MPEx might be using cold wallets, kept on Mars. But most BTC users don't. and if you want to spend any, you have to defrost.
Mar 22 15:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	nono
Mar 22 15:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	im talking about the users.
Mar 22 15:35:18 <mircea_popescu>	you setup your signing on one machine, connect another to the internet
Mar 22 15:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	its really niot that hard/expensive to do
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Mar 22 15:35:52 <asciilifeform>	also, in practice, most air gaps aren't. see Stuxnet & friends.
Mar 22 15:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	well, problem there is the process.
Mar 22 15:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	when 1000s of ppl are involved security takes a hike
Mar 22 15:36:25 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: do you hand-type the public keys and signed transactions?
Mar 22 15:36:28 <MJR__>	yes true
Mar 22 15:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	it's trivial for you to implement a secure system if it's only got one user
Mar 22 15:37:03 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform consider the case of an old laptop you get off ebay for 200 bux, format and install linux on.
Mar 22 15:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	as long as you don't connect it to the net ever, what's the worst that can happen ?
Mar 22 15:37:18 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: is your cold machine kept in a Faraday cage room, with optically isolated power?
Mar 22 15:37:36 <smickles>	hardcore
Mar 22 15:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	dude, it's a laptop. you don't need to isolate the power :D
Mar 22 15:37:51 <asciilifeform>	pick up a spectrum analyzer on ebay and see how far your laptop radiates.
Mar 22 15:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	if you demonstrate key stealing off a laptop i'll give you a btc in bounty
Mar 22 15:38:22 <asciilifeform>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename)
Mar 22 15:38:51 <MJR__>	yes...so gain physical access
Mar 22 15:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	yes well, tempest stuff is detecting airplanes and industrial facilities.
Mar 22 15:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ i wastalking, with a spectrum analyzer.
Mar 22 15:39:51 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: if you demonstrate how to steal a vault full of diamonds in Belgium, I'll give you a U.S. dollar in bounty.
Mar 22 15:40:00 <mircea_popescu>	:)
Mar 22 15:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	that's easy : i just walk in there, say hi and hit them across the head.
Mar 22 15:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	as demonstrated in snatch
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Mar 22 15:41:52 <MJR__>	the point is that "security" is a spectrum
Mar 22 15:41:57 <kakobrekla>	hehe http://i.imgur.com/STSOYR9h.png
Mar 22 15:42:01 <MJR__>	as stated on mpex FAQ
Mar 22 15:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.54490001 BTC [-]
Mar 22 15:42:24 <MJR__>	you define the needs you have with their risks
Mar 22 15:42:43 <MJR__>	it's all about time spent vs possible loss
Mar 22 15:42:50 <MJR__>	probabilities
Mar 22 15:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla win
Mar 22 15:43:16 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ as far as i can see, the job of the provider is to ensure you don't get squished.
Mar 22 15:43:23 <MJR__>	yeah
Mar 22 15:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	ie, that the spectrum available includes the zone you as a customer need
Mar 22 15:43:32 <mircea_popescu>	other than that... good luck and green onions.
Mar 22 15:43:38 <MJR__>	exactly
Mar 22 15:43:52 <MJR__>	I think mpex does that well
Mar 22 15:44:07 <MJR__>	with the key exchanging options
Mar 22 15:44:47 <mircea_popescu>	and even in that context : a little squishing up is acceptable
Mar 22 15:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	the idea is to not squish down as it were
Mar 22 15:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	a good example of this is disallowing weak passwords
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Mar 22 15:47:59 <tiberiusiv>	i dont get why cavirtex is voluntarily going to regulators in canada
Mar 22 15:48:11 <tiberiusiv>	even charging a sales tax they arent required too
Mar 22 15:48:48 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv they are seizing an opportunity.
Mar 22 15:48:48 <tiberiusiv>	not to mention they are using the CAD dollar as a unit of account vs BTC
Mar 22 15:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	atm btc exchange is done legally in europe by the bitcoin-central ppl
Mar 22 15:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	and by nobody in the us
Mar 22 15:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	they have that space, they want to fill it.
Mar 22 15:49:57 <MJR__>	well, I personally don't like disallowing weak passwords
Mar 22 15:50:19 <MJR__>	I like notifying about the relative strength of a password
Mar 22 15:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ yeah. in some broken environments however (such as, the web) you're desperate fgor air however
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Mar 22 15:50:48 <MJR__>	but forcing people to do a harder password leads to stick notes on monitors
Mar 22 15:51:06 <MJR__>	which is WAY less secure
Mar 22 15:51:26 <MJR__>	so the policy can lead to the exact opposite effect
Mar 22 15:51:50 <mircea_popescu>	very true
Mar 22 15:51:55 <MJR__>	offer broad range of security options...
Mar 22 15:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	you can't force good.
Mar 22 15:52:01 <MJR__>	2 factor
Mar 22 15:52:07 <MJR__>	yes
Mar 22 15:52:31 <MJR__>	I personally like pin code for financial transactions plus password for login
Mar 22 15:53:11 <MJR__>	makes it somewhat difficult enough for attacker but easier for user
Mar 22 15:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	so basically did asicminer just downgrade theyr "next batch" from 60 gh to 50gh
Mar 22 15:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	or have i not been paying attention here ?
Mar 22 15:54:06 <kakobrekla>	i dont even give a fuck anymore about these asic
Mar 22 15:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	no but listen! this is a big deal.
Mar 22 15:54:19 <mircea_popescu>	originally : 12gh + 60 gh
Mar 22 15:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	then their 12gh failed to materialise
Mar 22 15:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	atm they are at about 7gh, and hoping to get together 15
Mar 22 15:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	but the 2nd batch is 50 now
Mar 22 15:54:52 <mircea_popescu>	so out of 22 gh they put online 7 and are hoping for 15 tops
Mar 22 15:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	this means 1/3 of their chips blew out during the month ?
Mar 22 15:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	is the power thing a lie ?
Mar 22 15:55:50 *	kakobrekla recheckes the tinfoil hat
Mar 22 15:55:51 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 22 15:56:00 <MJR__>	I think that 3rd wave Avalon might be a good deal still
Mar 22 15:56:30 <MJR__>	regardless of future difficulty
Mar 22 15:56:33 <kakobrekla>	its all fog and bullshit
Mar 22 15:56:42 <mod6>	yeah, i dunno
Mar 22 15:56:46 <mod6>	i wouldn't believe it until i see it
Mar 22 15:56:51 <kakobrekla>	so cause of the fog you cant see the shit
Mar 22 15:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't put money on any of it
Mar 22 15:56:56 <kakobrekla>	you might end up stepping in one
Mar 22 15:57:00 <mircea_popescu>	but it makes for a fun detective story imo
Mar 22 15:57:06 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: yeah i wouldn't put my btc's on it.
Mar 22 15:57:39 <mod6>	its too bad really, because these things could be awesome, but we have no way of knowing what we're getting or if we'll even get delivery.
Mar 22 15:57:51 <mod6>	or if it'll even work as advertised
Mar 22 15:58:00 <MJR__>	seen Avalon with my own 2 eyes
Mar 22 15:58:09 <MJR__>	in person
Mar 22 15:58:12 <MJR__>	hashing
Mar 22 15:58:33 <kakobrekla>	do the coins falling out cause much noise?
Mar 22 15:58:36 <MJR__>	it's getting around 8 coins per day
Mar 22 15:58:55 <MJR__>	such a racket with coins piling up everywhere
Mar 22 15:59:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 22 15:59:15 <jcpham>	woohoo
Mar 22 15:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1658257#msg1658257 lol
Mar 22 15:59:27 <jcpham>	firstadopterponzicoinasic
Mar 22 15:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin foundation should comission a statue group of usagi and deprived
Mar 22 15:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons could then finally have a haunt
Mar 22 16:00:19 <jborkl>	I don't understand usagi math
Mar 22 16:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	that's because you don't drink enough
Mar 22 16:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	paint stripper.
Mar 22 16:01:04 <jborkl>	and why anyone would even care about $2400 worth of silver is beyond me
Mar 22 16:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	i think deprived does it as a hobby
Mar 22 16:01:21 <jborkl>	I dont blame him
Mar 22 16:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	i also don't see where you get 2,4k ? no way he has 80oz
Mar 22 16:01:36 <jborkl>	I dont get why anyone would list a asset of 2400
Mar 22 16:01:45 <jborkl>	well, he says 80 oz
Mar 22 16:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	srsly ?
Mar 22 16:01:51 <jborkl>	in usagi land
Mar 22 16:01:54 <jcpham>	i hve 80 oz of silver
Mar 22 16:01:58 <mircea_popescu>	i thought more like 30 , anyway.
Mar 22 16:01:59 <jcpham>	what can i do with it
Mar 22 16:02:02 <smickles>	I had people like deprived looking at my statements, ya know that they said?
Mar 22 16:02:05 <jcpham>	start an asset or something?
Mar 22 16:02:13 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham you could make a silver cock
Mar 22 16:02:23 <jborkl>	he says 80 oz silver with 800 shares in the float and 43btc in debt
Mar 22 16:02:24 <smickles>	they said they lookd good and asked me what program i used to generate them
Mar 22 16:02:25 <jcpham>	what the fuck is 80 oz of silver anyways
Mar 22 16:02:30 <jcpham>	good for
Mar 22 16:02:32 *	smickles did them by hand
Mar 22 16:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	haha smickles
Mar 22 16:02:52 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu have you seen the amagi metals silver bullets?
Mar 22 16:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Mar 22 16:03:24 *	mircea_popescu is not much of a pm buff.
Mar 22 16:03:28 <jcpham>	http://www.amagimetals.com/1-oz-45-silver-bullet-round.html
Mar 22 16:03:37 <jcpham>	i saw it on reddit
Mar 22 16:03:45 <jcpham>	when they were basing coinabul
Mar 22 16:03:50 <jcpham>	*bashing
Mar 22 16:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	haha.
Mar 22 16:03:54 <mod6>	is it ACP?
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Mar 22 16:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	what are these, for shooting vampires ?
Mar 22 16:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	VP rounds ?
Mar 22 16:04:06 <jcpham>	it's a silver knock off
Mar 22 16:04:13 <jcpham>	i wish it was primer + case
Mar 22 16:04:16 <mod6>	lol: One ounce .45 ACP silver bullet.
Mar 22 16:04:17 <mod6>	thats awesome
Mar 22 16:04:21 <jcpham>	fucking slay vampires
Mar 22 16:04:34 <jcpham>	what else am i going to buy with bitcoin
Mar 22 16:04:35 <jcpham>	amirite
Mar 22 16:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	wait. the casing is silver too ?!
Mar 22 16:04:40 <mod6>	right jcpham
Mar 22 16:04:44 <jcpham>	it doesn't fire
Mar 22 16:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	o
Mar 22 16:04:49 <mod6>	awe :?
Mar 22 16:04:50 <jcpham>	we wish it did
Mar 22 16:04:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.8 = 5.6 BTC [+]
Mar 22 16:05:03 <mod6>	i might of had to get a few for the G21
Mar 22 16:05:05 <jcpham>	it is a mold of a .45 round if i understand it correctly
Mar 22 16:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	then they're silver rounds neh ? :D
Mar 22 16:05:35 <smickles>	i used to know a guy who mad a few silver 22 bullets for the fun of it
Mar 22 16:05:38 <jcpham>	keep one in the chamber you know
Mar 22 16:05:43 <jcpham>	just in case
Mar 22 16:05:59 <mircea_popescu>	"I need 2btc will repay 2.5 btc My name is very well known "
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Mar 22 16:06:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:06:55 <deadweasel>	he would have all of 15 shareholders.
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Mar 22 16:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	"Its kind of a personal website for me and my girlfriend. We are a webcam couple on chaturbate.com and we are trying to expand into the bitcoin world. cam4btc is a great idea and we are willing to promote the site on ours, but our site is just a way to promote my girlfriend and what all she is willing to do on cam"
Mar 22 16:07:36 <mircea_popescu>	white guy, too squishy to be a pimp ?
Mar 22 16:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	become forum entrepreneur!
Mar 22 16:08:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.28837301 = 288.373 BTC [+]
Mar 22 16:08:23 <mircea_popescu>	"Btw, I have bought the domain and have hosting now. So that is where I am at. Now I am currently looking for someone who would like to help build the site. For now it would be a very small 1 page project. That will later have a forum and gallery. But for now, If you'd like to help build me a simple front page, let me know. I do not have much experience in website design."
Mar 22 16:08:36 <jborkl>	he should ipo that, lol
Mar 22 16:08:40 <jcpham>	"but our site is just a way to promote my girlfriend and what all she is willing to do on cam"
Mar 22 16:08:46 <jcpham>	that sentence gives me chills
Mar 22 16:08:52 <jcpham>	what a fucking weakling
Mar 22 16:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 500 @ 0.3163976 = 158.1988 BTC [+]
Mar 22 16:09:02 <jcpham>	he could learn to phrase things better
Mar 22 16:09:03 <jborkl>	sounds like a glbse ipo
Mar 22 16:09:36 <mircea_popescu>	well... his name is well known, he needs 2btc loaned
Mar 22 16:09:43 <jcpham>	no
Mar 22 16:09:49 <jcpham>	link me to it
Mar 22 16:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	that poor girl, incidentally, i'd push her a hundred just to get out of the mess.
Mar 22 16:09:53 <jcpham>	please go
Mar 22 16:09:56 <jcpham>	d
Mar 22 16:10:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06812163 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154761.0;all
Mar 22 16:10:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.044 = 0.088 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:11:01 <jcpham>	http://cultofturtle.com
Mar 22 16:11:10 <jurov>	reminds me to the russian who posted photo of his wife in underwear in front of rigs
Mar 22 16:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	jurov recal the sob story from siberia ?
Mar 22 16:11:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 256 @ 0.28837301 = 73.8235 BTC [+]
Mar 22 16:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	the guy to whom i sent like a btc and republished his story and he was wtf happened
Mar 22 16:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 22 16:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.19305144 / 66.64583078 / 67.37931378 (39043 shares, 9,008.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 22 16:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.54489999 = 2.1796 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:12:04 <jborkl>	No.. but she is a mommy, we have a 4 year old son. And I ran a BitCoin Review Site for a little while, but that kinda faded away, not much going on there.
Mar 22 16:12:13 <jborkl>	lol
Mar 22 16:12:15 <jborkl>	sad
Mar 22 16:12:19 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.068)
Mar 22 16:12:19 <gribble>	80.4721030043
Mar 22 16:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	incredible : oix call side is like 15 btc under oix put side
Mar 22 16:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	total crossing.
Mar 22 16:13:14 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.044)
Mar 22 16:13:14 <gribble>	78.4518828452
Mar 22 16:13:48 <jurov>	or result of lack of calls with appropriate strike
Mar 22 16:14:07 <jurov>	so puts get shorted instead
Mar 22 16:14:20 <mircea_popescu>	except puts got shorted all month
Mar 22 16:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	what'd be iyo an appropiate strike for calls atm ?
Mar 22 16:14:58 <deadweasel>	>>I am definately good for the loan, i will give personal info. that isnt a problem<<
Mar 22 16:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	i mean 75 is still out of the money (if just barely)
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Mar 22 16:15:56 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 22 16:15:57 <gribble>	71.58
Mar 22 16:16:07 <smickles>	73 is otm too
Mar 22 16:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138047.msg1659914#msg1659914
Mar 22 16:16:31 <jurov>	i just say that calls striked > 75 would certainly sell atm and would affect the oix if they were available
Mar 22 16:16:40 <mircea_popescu>	whoa nelly, so bitmillions thing is 10% house edge ?!
Mar 22 16:17:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00069245 = 0.6925 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00069242 = 0.6924 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00069241 = 7.9627 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:17:30 <jurov>	so i don't get why it's surprising that oix is crossed
Mar 22 16:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	jurov that's kinda vague tho. what, 77 ? 85 ? 99 ?
Mar 22 16:17:55 <jurov>	100,200,500 as i said already :DDD
Mar 22 16:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	ya right, you'll pay 5 cents for call 500
Mar 22 16:18:23 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, my q was more, are yo uactually looking to buy and can't or just general discussion ?
Mar 22 16:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	cause i can add them, but kinda don't see the point, will have to change the notation anyway and that needs to wait till expiry.
Mar 22 16:18:58 <jurov>	not very much atm, but id' definitely bought 100 next month at least
Mar 22 16:19:03 <jurov>	C1000N
Mar 22 16:19:21 <jurov>	but i'm not asking you to add them asap
Mar 22 16:19:41 <jurov>	just i don't get the crossed oix comment
Mar 22 16:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, i think atm what i'll do is either 20-200 step 3
Mar 22 16:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	or else 25 - 300 step 5.
Mar 22 16:19:58 <jurov>	to me it seems obvious
Mar 22 16:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	any preferences from the public btw ?
Mar 22 16:21:10 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: oh please keep that trailing 0 in the mpsic, i don't want to recode things
Mar 22 16:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	;/
Mar 22 16:21:38 <mircea_popescu>	you'll have to recode things else everyone will have to keep typing a useless 0 all the time
Mar 22 16:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.54489999 = 5.9939 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:22:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8099 BTC [+]
Mar 22 16:22:06 <smickles>	bah, well, it's not that big of a deal anyway
Mar 22 16:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	originally the fraction strikes were great
Mar 22 16:22:25 <mircea_popescu>	what with btc being 2 and shit
Mar 22 16:22:28 <mircea_popescu>	but atm...
Mar 22 16:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	i guess i better make a general warning about this too huh.
Mar 22 16:23:22 <smickles>	ideally, you should have 6 strikes, 3 each side one standard deviation further away from the last
Mar 22 16:23:37 <smickles>	problem is, bitcoin goes thru 8 stddevs sometimes
Mar 22 16:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 22 16:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	and there's other advantages to the linear scheme too
Mar 22 16:24:04 <jurov>	step 5 is OK. but definitely please either announce it first or make sure all new mpsic are different from current
Mar 22 16:27:38 <jurov>	if anyone holds the options, i mean. just renaming C250T into C025T and creating new C205T would cause utter chaos in coinbr database
Mar 22 16:27:51 <jurov>	*new C250T
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Mar 22 16:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	prepare for it, because it's acomin'.
Mar 22 16:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	but the idea is, nobody will hold anything because it will be opex
Mar 22 16:30:17 <mircea_popescu>	so all options get exercised.
Mar 22 16:30:28 <jurov>	next month options then
Mar 22 16:30:51 <jurov>	so i can expect C200N to become C020T ?
Mar 22 16:31:07 <mircea_popescu>	those may pose a problem yes. there's like 50 or so total contracts outstanding.
Mar 22 16:31:14 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yes. i'm writing a full post explaining.
Mar 22 16:31:18 <mircea_popescu>	gimme a minute.
Mar 22 16:31:22 <jurov>	np
Mar 22 16:31:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00375 = 0.0375 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:31:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00359 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4937 = 1.9748 BTC [+]
Mar 22 16:33:43 <thestringpuller>	!m OIX
Mar 22 16:33:50 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m OIX
Mar 22 16:33:51 <assbot>	Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
Mar 22 16:34:02 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 22 16:34:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.19305144 / 66.68349399 / 67.41250707 (39299 shares, 9,082.45 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Mar 22 16:41:33 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Mar 22 16:41:34 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.54489999 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:41:41 <error4733>	nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Mar 22 16:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.54321 = 2.7161 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.5449 = 2.1796 BTC [+]
Mar 22 16:44:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.54490001 = 16.8919 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 16:46:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00423294 = 4.2329 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:46:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3350 @ 0.00423293 = 14.1803 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:48:05 <mod6>	$depth s.dice
Mar 22 16:48:06 <mpexbot>	mod6: Bids: ['250 @ 0.00380002', '250 @ 0.00380002', '250 @ 0.00380001', '100 @ 0.00320005', '100 @ 0.00320004']
Mar 22 16:48:07 <mpexbot>	mod6: Asks: ['250000 @ 0.0044', '4484 @ 0.00444443', '1000 @ 0.00449999', '60000 @ 0.0045', '1000 @ 0.00499979']
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Mar 22 16:48:30 <mod6>	250k @ .0044, time to back the truck up?
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Mar 22 16:51:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00380002 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 16:53:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 0.8098 = 13.7666 BTC [-]
Mar 22 16:55:52 *	unbalanced_away is now known as unbalanced
Mar 22 16:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4938 = 1.9752 BTC [+]
Mar 22 16:57:13 <unbalanced>	Lower highs and lower lows since late yesterday for BTC/USD on Mt. Gox.
Mar 22 16:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [+]
Mar 22 17:01:01 <mircea_popescu>	jurov and everyone else working a mpex bot of any kind : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-btc-usd-options-denomination-change/
Mar 22 17:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	please distribute this so we minimise surprises too.
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Mar 22 17:02:22 *	mod6 looks
Mar 22 17:04:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8098 = 1.6196 BTC [-]
Mar 22 17:04:54 <mod6>	ok my stuff is ok with that change.
Mar 22 17:05:09 <mod6>	its agnostic to the nomanclature of the MPSIC
Mar 22 17:05:15 <mod6>	it just get's 'em and displays them
Mar 22 17:05:24 <mod6>	or if you put one in, it'll match it.
Mar 22 17:07:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.45898 BTC [+]
Mar 22 17:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Mar 22 17:08:12 <mircea_popescu>	so is pympex
Mar 22 17:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	but if you're running like a bot, things change
Mar 22 17:08:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1505 = 15.05 BTC [-]
Mar 22 17:09:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 22 17:09:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 66.00000, Best ask: 66.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 66.00000, 24 hour volume: 67515.82621468, 24 hour low: 66.30000, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 71.33874
Mar 22 17:09:23 <ThickAsThieves>	dun dun!
Mar 22 17:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?!
Mar 22 17:09:43 <mircea_popescu>	srsly ?
Mar 22 17:10:00 <unbalanced>	Warned youse.
Mar 22 17:10:12 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: *nod*
Mar 22 17:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	no wonder options were covering like crazy
Mar 22 17:10:41 <mod6>	seems to be good support down to $60 though
Mar 22 17:10:44 <mod6>	;;bids 60
Mar 22 17:10:47 <gribble>	There are currently 13803.831 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.0 USD, worth 865440.635754 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0071 seconds
Mar 22 17:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	1mn
Mar 22 17:11:18 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 22 17:11:20 <gribble>	71.869109 seconds
Mar 22 17:11:30 <Namworld>	wouldn't be the first 10k BTC drop at market price that pops right back up
Mar 22 17:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	"MPOE-PR, You are an incredibly stupid person to be so well written. Did you have an accident, like a blow to the head?"
Mar 22 17:11:41 <dub>	^nobody knows wtf the depth is
Mar 22 17:11:44 <ThickAsThieves>	gox suggested bid is 66
Mar 22 17:11:54 <ThickAsThieves>	stuck at 66
Mar 22 17:11:58 <ThickAsThieves>	so lame
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Mar 22 17:12:18 <ThickAsThieves>	they need to change that
Mar 22 17:12:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Mar 22 17:12:28 <ThickAsThieves>	when the socket dies, the suggested price pauses
Mar 22 17:12:30 <dub>	s/they/we
Mar 22 17:12:48 <ThickAsThieves>	so people just use it cuz they are dumb
Mar 22 17:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.54490001 = 8.1735 BTC [+]
Mar 22 17:13:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P730T] 17 @ 0.12393099 = 2.1068 BTC [-]
Mar 22 17:13:15 <jurov>	well, any better way to suggest a price when exchange interface is unavailable?
Mar 22 17:13:53 <ThickAsThieves>	dont have a borked system?
Mar 22 17:13:57 <ThickAsThieves>	dont suggest price?
Mar 22 17:14:27 <ThickAsThieves>	show an orderbook?
Mar 22 17:14:32 <ThickAsThieves>	etc
Mar 22 17:14:37 <jurov>	well, it's actually the coinbr feature i like most.. having whole orderbook right on new order page
Mar 22 17:14:57 <jurov>	if it doesn't load it's like flying blind :D
Mar 22 17:15:00 <Namworld>	66? no, stuck at 66.66666666
Mar 22 17:15:18 <ThickAsThieves>	still at 66
Mar 22 17:15:38 <mod6>	i see ~800 @ 65.5
Mar 22 17:15:46 <ThickAsThieves>	they could easily be manipulatng (gox)
Mar 22 17:15:57 <Namworld>	It's the weekend dip...
Mar 22 17:15:57 <ThickAsThieves>	if they just switch the suggested bif
Mar 22 17:15:58 <mod6>	heh i've got bad data
Mar 22 17:16:00 <ThickAsThieves>	bid
Mar 22 17:16:04 <ThickAsThieves>	then they decide the price
Mar 22 17:16:17 <ThickAsThieves>	people see a $10 drop in suggestion
Mar 22 17:16:19 <ThickAsThieves>	and panic
Mar 22 17:16:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00469 = 0.0516 BTC [-]
Mar 22 17:16:41 <Namworld>	Happens every friday. Some herd-mind creatures all go nuts every friday because they worship some natural event they provoke.
Mar 22 17:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Mar 22 17:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	aptly put
Mar 22 17:17:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not convinced
Mar 22 17:17:19 <ThickAsThieves>	weekend dip was analyzed for weeks
Mar 22 17:17:22 <Namworld>	It's called blaming the banks
Mar 22 17:17:26 <ThickAsThieves>	and proven to not be predictable
Mar 22 17:17:27 <Namworld>	Everybody does it
Mar 22 17:20:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
Mar 22 17:22:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i aint complaining
Mar 22 17:22:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i just got my deposit from campbx :)
Mar 22 17:22:59 <ThickAsThieves>	so i welcome the dip
Mar 22 17:23:06 <ThickAsThieves>	took them 3 fucking weeks
Mar 22 17:23:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P730T] 14 @ 0.12565086 = 1.7591 BTC [+]
Mar 22 17:24:39 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 22 17:24:40 <gribble>	117.445562 seconds
Mar 22 17:24:47 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 22 17:24:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.00000, Best ask: 68.50000, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 68.50000, 24 hour volume: 68088.46052488, 24 hour low: 65.88000, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 71.29410
Mar 22 17:26:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00464 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 17:29:29 <dub>	;;ticker
Mar 22 17:29:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.02127, Best ask: 70.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.97873, Last trade: 70.00000, 24 hour volume: 73864.51626862, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 70.87635
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Mar 22 17:32:37 <Bowjob>	meow
Mar 22 17:32:45 <Bowjob>	the flash crash woke me up
Mar 22 17:32:47 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 22 17:32:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.02230, Best ask: 69.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.77770, Last trade: 69.80000, 24 hour volume: 74785.18483392, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 70.86350
Mar 22 17:32:50 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 22 17:33:04 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 22 17:33:05 <gribble>	74.29226 seconds
Mar 22 17:33:10 <mod6>	i think its awesome that btc gets people out of bed
Mar 22 17:33:43 <mod6>	reminds me of when I used to sleep behind the servers in the NOC
Mar 22 17:34:14 <mod6>	(its warm back there!) lol
Mar 22 17:34:22 <error4733>	sade to see how just a 5K dump can cut 10%
Mar 22 17:34:39 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 that's the case pretty much across the spectrum
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Mar 22 17:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	$depth s.dice
Mar 22 17:34:50 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Bids: ['250 @ 0.00380002', '249 @ 0.00380002', '250 @ 0.00380001', '7000 @ 0.003308', '100 @ 0.00320005']
Mar 22 17:34:51 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['4484 @ 0.00444443', '1000 @ 0.00449999', '60000 @ 0.0045', '13055 @ 0.00499977', '1000 @ 0.00499979']
Mar 22 17:35:19 <error4733>	(talk about btc)
Mar 22 17:35:57 <error4733>	i stop to hurt myslef to follow SD price
Mar 22 17:36:23 <error4733>	i play lee than 1 instead
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Mar 22 17:36:45 <Bowjob>	profit for march is about 1k BTC right now
Mar 22 17:36:54 <error4733>	...yeaaa
Mar 22 17:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 lol
Mar 22 17:37:31 <mircea_popescu>	the cause is pretty much the lack of stabilisation agents.
Mar 22 17:37:35 *	smickles sings "let's talk about B T C. Let's talk about you and me. Let's talk about all the good thing and the bad thing it can me"
Mar 22 17:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	irl there's all the people doingfinancial planning, advising for clients,
Mar 22 17:37:49 <error4733>	btc rise didn't help...
Mar 22 17:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	referral based advertising etc
Mar 22 17:37:54 <Bowjob>	https://twitter.com/PaulSproge/status/315162016232923136
Mar 22 17:37:57 <Bowjob>	this guy called it
Mar 22 17:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	in here there's basically a bunch of coders running around like headless chickens implementing random shit
Mar 22 17:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	that then doens't work
Mar 22 17:38:06 <mod6>	lol smickles
Mar 22 17:39:37 <Doffx>	Err, how would that guy know unless he was the seller
Mar 22 17:39:45 <Doffx>	Or new of the sale to come
Mar 22 17:39:50 <Doffx>	knew*
Mar 22 17:40:03 <Doffx>	I guess I answered my own question really.
Mar 22 17:40:13 <smickles>	Doffx: prolly just an elliot waver
Mar 22 17:40:36 <Doffx>	What is an elliot waver?
Mar 22 17:40:50 <smickles>	;;lucky elliot wave theory
Mar 22 17:40:51 <gribble>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_wave_principle
Mar 22 17:41:54 <Bowjob>	isnt that what lucif does
Mar 22 17:42:07 <smickles>	Bowjob: that's what most all of them do
Mar 22 17:42:37 <Bowjob>	how come that guy called it correctly, that lucif dude always fucks it up
Mar 22 17:42:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 22 17:42:45 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6570267.53609 based on data since last change | 7684587.17947 based on data for last three days
Mar 22 17:42:46 <Doffx>	Interesting
Mar 22 17:42:47 <Bowjob>	as a result, i go opposite of his forcasts
Mar 22 17:42:56 <smickles>	it's complicated enough that people don't understand it enough that confirmation bias sets in
Mar 22 17:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.524 = 5.24 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 17:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	already back to 70
Mar 22 17:43:45 <Bowjob>	honestly i think TA mostly charlatans
Mar 22 17:43:47 <kakobrekla>	trading on current exchanges while dips : http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/You_3ace5c_2337479.jpg
Mar 22 17:43:54 <smickles>	plus, it basically says, at each key point, it can go either way
Mar 22 17:43:59 <Bowjob>	it could be my own personal incredulity setting in
Mar 22 17:44:00 <error4733>	drop 15k from your stach and drive it to 60$...
Mar 22 17:44:15 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 22 17:44:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.23770, Best ask: 69.73998, Bid-ask spread: 0.50228, Last trade: 69.23770, 24 hour volume: 75455.72439051, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 70.82006
Mar 22 17:44:24 <Bowjob>	but if those TA analysts know whats going on, they wouldnt sell to ppl their subscriptions
Mar 22 17:44:26 <smickles>	;;market --sell 15000
Mar 22 17:44:30 <gribble>	A market order to sell 15000 bitcoins right now would net 966129.1306 USD and would take the last price down to 61.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 64.4086 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 22 17:44:58 <smickles>	Bowjob: rationally, yes. they would even borrow money to do it themselves
Mar 22 17:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.54490001 = 4.3592 BTC [+]
Mar 22 17:45:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8098 BTC [-]
Mar 22 17:46:52 <smickles>	it would even make sense for them to borrow at hight rates, b/c their profit margin would overcome it
Mar 22 17:50:07 <Ukto>	http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/man-lists-bungalow-bitcoins-115706957--abc-news-savings-and-investment.html
Mar 22 17:54:01 <error4733>	this guy now had a nice new file open on his name with a IRS icon on top
Mar 22 17:54:10 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob: that arguement is wrong. same reason ASIC builders wouldnt sell
Mar 22 17:54:28 <smickles>	error4733: isn't that guy in canada?
Mar 22 17:54:31 <tiberiusiv>	selling a TA subscription is like selling call options
Mar 22 17:56:04 <unbalanced>	or more like owning a call for free?
Mar 22 17:56:05 <smickles>	care to explain why that line of reasoning is included in the valuation of call options then?
Mar 22 17:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	twitter fuckwits.
Mar 22 17:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	mpex happens to have introduced shorting in btc finance,
Mar 22 17:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	dood explains to me how im affraid of w/e the fuck.
Mar 22 17:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00069242 = 0.6924 BTC [+]
Mar 22 17:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	where;s this "i have no clue thus therefore i know better" attitude come from already!
Mar 22 17:56:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00069242 = 0.6924 BTC [+]
Mar 22 17:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4116 @ 0.00069241 = 2.85 BTC [-]
Mar 22 17:56:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 546 @ 0.00069172 = 0.3777 BTC [-]
Mar 22 17:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00068839 = 6.0578 BTC [-]
Mar 22 17:57:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2338 @ 0.0006825 = 1.5957 BTC [-]
Mar 22 17:57:26 <tiberiusiv>	mpex finally coming off its overvaluation
Mar 22 17:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	awww i can has 50mn ?
Mar 22 17:58:45 <Bowjob>	"a bitcoin is worth $72.50? are there any smaller denominations because otherwise these things wouldn't work that well outside large transactions. i.e. I'm not buying a pizza with 1 bitcoin when it means I'm giving the pizza joint a $58 tip."
Mar 22 17:58:59 <Bowjob>	"Maybe they can come up with a bitbitcoin worth $25.00 ..."
Mar 22 17:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.5451 = 2.7255 BTC [+]
Mar 22 17:59:17 <Bowjob>	watching clueless people talk about bitcoin
Mar 22 17:59:25 <smickles>	i can come up with a bitcoin worth 25 usd if you'll sell it to me
Mar 22 17:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob ok, you win
Mar 22 17:59:54 <deadweasel>	me too
Mar 22 17:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	much worse than mine.
Mar 22 18:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	but still... why ?
Mar 22 18:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	"here's this thing i have no idea about. let me tell you how it goes"
Mar 22 18:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	ow fuck me
Mar 22 18:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	you know where all this gets started ? i bet you it's the insane habit of teaching kids to "guess" words based on context
Mar 22 18:00:57 <error4733>	after 100$ i guess we start to talk in cents ? Cbtc
Mar 22 18:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	rather than beat them until they learn the dictionary
Mar 22 18:01:06 <Bowjob>	lol mp
Mar 22 18:01:08 <Bowjob>	thats cruel
Mar 22 18:01:09 <Bowjob>	:p
Mar 22 18:01:13 <mircea_popescu>	i am serious. that's the fucking source
Mar 22 18:01:30 <Bowjob>	i happened to do well in english classes back in the day
Mar 22 18:01:42 <deadweasel>	english class*
Mar 22 18:01:43 <Bowjob>	well shit happens when you go out of school lol
Mar 22 18:01:45 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: yeah i dunno what that guy is on
Mar 22 18:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol deadweasel
Mar 22 18:01:50 <mod6>	he followed me too
Mar 22 18:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 im like, dude, so go short em already
Mar 22 18:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	"o no, too busy yakking"
Mar 22 18:03:24 <Bowjob>	"Well, congress uses imaginary money, so why not?"
Mar 22 18:03:31 <Bowjob>	best comment ever
Mar 22 18:04:03 <Bowjob>	""digital currency"? What's backing it? Ok, boom, I just made-up 6,000 bitcoins... keep the change!"
Mar 22 18:04:16 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob actually i liked this 1 https://twitter.com/pete_earle/status/315213611452731393
Mar 22 18:05:10 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 22 18:06:49 <mircea_popescu>	would be pretty cool actually.
Mar 22 18:07:21 <smickles>	i like being inside mpoebot
Mar 22 18:07:23 <smickles>	:D
Mar 22 18:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	$markov
Mar 22 18:07:52 <mpexbot>	jurov because a. its much easier to parse and b. because the bot
Mar 22 18:07:59 <mod6>	(15:02) < mircea_popescu> "o no, too busy yakking" << yeah like wt
Mar 22 18:08:19 <jurov>	mpexbot is repeating itself
Mar 22 18:08:49 <jurov>	i remember he generated exactly the same text once
Mar 22 18:09:03 <smickles>	jurov: i think it's stopped adding new data for some reason
Mar 22 18:09:04 <Bowjob>	"digital currency"? What's backing it? Ok, boom, I just made-up 6,000 bitcoins... keep the change!
Mar 22 18:09:16 <smickles>	it's not a priority for me to figure it out
Mar 22 18:09:44 <smickles>	bowjobbot is repeating itself
Mar 22 18:09:50 <Bowjob>	oh did i
Mar 22 18:09:51 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 22 18:09:53 <jurov>	i guess [\\\] borkt it... cause of the backlashes
Mar 22 18:09:54 <mod6>	that pete earle guy has it figured ou though
Mar 22 18:10:05 <Bowjob>	yes i did
Mar 22 18:10:15 <smickles>	jurov: heh, that would be funny actually
Mar 22 18:10:34 <jurov>	little imsa tables we call him
Mar 22 18:11:13 <smickles>	oh wow,
Mar 22 18:11:27 <Bowjob>	I dreamt that I got an asic, and I found a block
Mar 22 18:11:31 <smickles>	mpoebot is widening margins by leaps and bounds
Mar 22 18:11:34 <Bowjob>	then I woke up
Mar 22 18:11:35 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 22 18:12:22 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 22 18:12:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.30000, Best ask: 70.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 70.30000, 24 hour volume: 75252.45726239, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 70.77809
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Mar 22 18:13:33 <benkay>	flash crash?
Mar 22 18:13:38 <benkay>	we all iz po nao?
Mar 22 18:13:45 <deadweasel>	no doubt, benkay
Mar 22 18:14:00 <benkay>	deadweasel u still at work?
Mar 22 18:14:12 <benkay>	come hang out at bailey's, cuz
Mar 22 18:14:13 <deadweasel>	no, the woman is on the phone with her mother.
Mar 22 18:14:24 <Bowjob>	yeah, bears got trampled upon once again
Mar 22 18:15:15 <deadweasel>	how can you talkto your mother for that long?~?!
Mar 22 18:15:17 <benkay>	is there a channel for humans writing bitcoin software?
Mar 22 18:15:25 <benkay>	i don't mean bitcoin-dev
Mar 22 18:15:32 <deadweasel>	nice save
Mar 22 18:15:42 <benkay>	dude
Mar 22 18:15:46 <benkay>	the pedants in this area
Mar 22 18:16:00 <Bowjob>	i believe proudhon saved us from the crash.. he called BTC dropping
Mar 22 18:20:17 <Bowjob>	guys.. does anyone recall bfl josh saying he will commit seppuku if bfl asics dont get delivered by april?
Mar 22 18:24:10 <Bowjob>	Aha, found it
Mar 22 18:24:10 <Bowjob>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/632-getting-ready-april.html
Mar 22 18:24:19 <Bowjob>	misspelled seppuku,
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Mar 22 18:24:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00443 BTC [+]
Mar 22 18:24:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00444 = 0.0444 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 18:25:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 22 18:25:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8098 = 1.6196 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 18:29:11 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 22 18:29:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.50001, Best ask: 69.76622, Bid-ask spread: 0.26621, Last trade: 69.50000, 24 hour volume: 76705.51077553, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 70.74349
Mar 22 18:29:17 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 22 18:29:18 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 22 18:29:20 <error4733>	haha " You wouldn't have to commit Seppeku. You'd have an angry mob with pitchforks and flaming torches at the door....."
Mar 22 18:32:43 <ThickAsThieves>	he still has time i guess :/
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Mar 22 18:33:27 <Bowjob>	so basically we need to have him take a bath,
Mar 22 18:33:36 <Bowjob>	and we feed him his favourite food
Mar 22 18:33:54 <Bowjob>	then after that he performs hara kiri
Mar 22 18:34:07 <Bowjob>	we need a skilled swordsman as his second though...
Mar 22 18:34:36 <error4733>	i thinks a rafle for this joob is good idea
Mar 22 18:34:50 <error4733>	to many pp want the job
Mar 22 18:35:22 <Bowjob>	well, they need to perform it correctly. basically you want to cut his head, but with a little bit of flash left so that his head wont roll
Mar 22 18:35:37 <Bowjob>	since apparently heads rolling is unsightly in front of spectators and not graceful
Mar 22 18:35:45 <error4733>	challenge accepted
Mar 22 18:37:01 <Bowjob>	he has to stab himself from left, dragging the knife to his right,.. and pulling up his abdomen. after which, the pain would be so unbearable, that he would naturally elongate his neck for the swordsman
Mar 22 18:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone has the photochop skills : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rape-is-fun-or-lets-fuck-up-adria-richards/
Mar 22 18:40:01 <ThickAsThieves>	hrm
Mar 22 18:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.545088 = 1.6353 BTC [-]
Mar 22 18:40:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.545099 = 1.6353 BTC [+]
Mar 22 18:40:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.5451 = 1.0902 BTC [+]
Mar 22 18:40:10 <ThickAsThieves>	does it have to be obviously RAPE
Mar 22 18:40:19 <ThickAsThieves>	rather than getting fukd
Mar 22 18:40:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Mar 22 18:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well, it's a contest
Mar 22 18:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	so far no entrants, so...
Mar 22 18:40:54 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 22 18:40:59 <ThickAsThieves>	i have the chops....
Mar 22 18:41:15 <benkay>	wow a 700 dollar reward?
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Mar 22 18:41:32 <Bowjob>	challenge accepted
Mar 22 18:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	go for it.
Mar 22 18:42:04 <ThickAsThieves>	lol at your wife checking your history and seeing "rape picz"
Mar 22 18:42:47 <benkay>	lol at anyone who has women in their life who are privileged to review history
Mar 22 18:43:09 <mircea_popescu>	im not married.
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Mar 22 18:53:02 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 22 18:53:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.71999, Best ask: 68.72000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 68.72000, 24 hour volume: 77413.54084361, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 70.70434
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Mar 22 19:02:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.199999 BTC [+]
Mar 22 19:03:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 2 @ 0.56246444 = 1.1249 BTC [+]
Mar 22 19:04:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+]
Mar 22 19:04:49 <error4733>	mp : good on you !!
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Mar 22 19:05:07 <MJR__>	;;goxlag
Mar 22 19:05:07 <gribble>	3.936888 seconds
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Mar 22 19:06:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 35 @ 0.00448 = 0.1568 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 19:06:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00449 BTC [+]
Mar 22 19:06:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.004587 = 0.0229 BTC [+]
Mar 22 19:06:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.004636 BTC [+]
Mar 22 19:07:35 <smickles>	;;calc 31/(1-.5624)
Mar 22 19:07:35 <gribble>	70.8409506399
Mar 22 19:07:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00068477 = 4.588 BTC [+]
Mar 22 19:08:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7662 @ 0.0006825 = 5.2293 BTC [-]
Mar 22 19:08:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 788 @ 0.00068249 = 0.5378 BTC [-]
Mar 22 19:09:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 19:09:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 22 19:10:01 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227471 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 336 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 10 hours, 54 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6569364.63317 | Estimated Percent Change: 35.51656
Mar 22 19:10:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8097 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 19:11:04 <ThickAsThieves>	so do you guys think the trend of btc rising with mining diff will hold as we spike higher on diff?
Mar 22 19:11:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8097 = 1.6194 BTC [+]
Mar 22 19:12:25 <smickles>	 if anything price lags behind diff as the miners try to sell at profitable rates, but for a while, i think most miners have not been cashing out. so it's not a good metric
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Mar 22 19:13:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8097 = 1.6194 BTC [+]
Mar 22 19:14:43 <ThickAsThieves>	that sorta means it goes up either way, no? of course that's been the best guess for a while now...
Mar 22 19:14:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.16 = 1.12 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 19:17:47 <smickles>	well, everytime since ~jul 2011, when it gets this profitable to mine, it begins to be a lot less profitable to mine. caused by eithr diff increase or price drop. since we expect the diff to increase, the price may stabilize
Mar 22 19:18:30 <smickles>	maybe it works like this because large mine-ops want to exptect and force a given profit leve once they startup
Mar 22 19:19:54 <smickles>	maybe 65-75 will be the range for a while
Mar 22 19:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
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Mar 22 19:27:20 <MJR__>	hi all
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Mar 22 19:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	ekki
Mar 22 19:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	ello*
Mar 22 19:27:58 <MJR__>	what's new mircea_popescu
Mar 22 19:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	nothing much really.
Mar 22 19:28:38 <MJR__>	cool
Mar 22 19:30:13 <benkay>	what's the btc-assets downlow on this bullshit: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2012/03/bitcoin-war-the-first-real-threat-to-bitcoin/
Mar 22 19:30:29 <mod6>	$vwap s.mpoe
Mar 22 19:30:31 <mpexbot>	mod6: 1 day: average: 0.00069382 high: 0.00072101 low: 0.00068249 volume: 79772 btc: 55.34760872 7 day: average: 0.00071976 high: 0.00077505 low: 0.00066743 volume: 3194689 btc: 2299.41829871 30 day: average: 0.00071193 high: 0.00078628 low: 0.00061614 volume: 35374137 btc: 25183.935095
Mar 22 19:31:57 <smickles>	benkay: fearmongering
Mar 22 19:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	"1. The entity may have discovered a method for increasing mining ROI, and essentially, is earning its 50 bitcoins per block"
Mar 22 19:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	i stopped there.
Mar 22 19:33:08 <benkay>	what's the deal with the empty txns tho
Mar 22 19:33:25 <ThickAsThieves>	couldnt they just further develop the stabdard bitcoin client to mine again, except take it further than cgminer, make it even easier to use and autodetect GPU/CPU power etc
Mar 22 19:33:35 <ThickAsThieves>	then we could have Red Alerts when shit went down
Mar 22 19:33:42 <ThickAsThieves>	and tell everyone to start mining
Mar 22 19:33:51 <ThickAsThieves>	if they wanna save bitcoin
Mar 22 19:33:53 <ThickAsThieves>	etc
Mar 22 19:34:12 <benkay>	not entirely a bad idea
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Mar 22 19:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	could be they just don't like the community.
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Mar 22 19:35:24 <mod6>	that guy is smoking crack
Mar 22 19:35:42 <mod6>	because its not all bots, i know for sure, because im not a bot - at least I don't think i am...
Mar 22 19:36:00 <ThickAsThieves>	my ISP thinks i have a bot infection
Mar 22 19:36:04 <ThickAsThieves>	when i started mining
Mar 22 19:36:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i got an email from comcast
Mar 22 19:36:14 <mod6>	haha
Mar 22 19:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 he's talking about the 15% miner that used to make empty blocks
Mar 22 19:37:05 <ThickAsThieves>	It essentially was warning that one of my computers may have been compromised and is exhibiting bot activity
Mar 22 19:37:15 <mod6>	oh we're talkin bout different things -- im talking about that twitter dillhole
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Mar 22 19:37:54 <ThickAsThieves>	also the  idea of giving every bitcoiner mining power, ties in well with the idea of letting people mine to expedite their own transactions
Mar 22 19:38:10 <ThickAsThieves>	have a little mining power in cellphone app, etc
Mar 22 19:38:18 <benkay_>	hahahaha
Mar 22 19:38:20 <benkay_>	oh
Mar 22 19:38:21 <benkay_>	haha
Mar 22 19:38:22 <benkay_>	man
Mar 22 19:38:26 <benkay_>	and zero battery instantly
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Mar 22 19:38:56 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: it would would probably have a very small impact
Mar 22 19:39:07 <ThickAsThieves>	probably,
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Mar 22 19:39:15 <ThickAsThieves>	but that impact may be able to stay proportional
Mar 22 19:39:22 <ThickAsThieves>	as bitcoin uptake increases in the world
Mar 22 19:39:47 <smickles>	it would waste people's electricity and longevity of their computers
Mar 22 19:40:14 <ThickAsThieves>	let em get rewards too then
Mar 22 19:40:24 <ThickAsThieves>	pool em
Mar 22 19:40:29 <ThickAsThieves>	just ideas
Mar 22 19:40:32 <smickles>	they would, and it would still be a waste ;)
Mar 22 19:40:50 <ThickAsThieves>	while none of this is perfect
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Mar 22 19:41:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i do think this kind of thinking can help mitigate the problem
Mar 22 19:41:34 <ThickAsThieves>	for example
Mar 22 19:41:41 <ThickAsThieves>	asics seem all powerful now
Mar 22 19:41:56 <ThickAsThieves>	but maybe every cell phone gets a couple 5th gen asic chips
Mar 22 19:41:57 <MJR__>	I had a great talk last night with Yifu
Mar 22 19:42:16 <MJR__>	there will be a next wave of more optimized
Mar 22 19:42:23 <MJR__>	better chips
Mar 22 19:42:44 <MJR__>	someone will do it
Mar 22 19:43:07 <mircea_popescu>	"Later update : The article originally used the word “photochop”. This is wrong, because the more photoshop is consistently used the closer Adobe gets to losing that trademark through it becoming generic. Please help the effort of stripping Adobe of its assets by always referring to altered images as “photoshops” rather than anything else. Thanks."
Mar 22 19:43:13 <ThickAsThieves>	we can get rid of bluetooth to make room
Mar 22 19:43:16 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 22 19:43:52 <MJR__>	that's cool
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Mar 22 19:52:12 <Ukto>	a new asset launched: https://bitfunder.com/asset/AMC
Mar 22 19:53:41 <benkay>	wow and how the fuck am i supposed to know from the bitfunder website what this so-called "asset" actually is?
Mar 22 19:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18728 @ 0.0007121 = 13.3362 BTC [+]
Mar 22 19:54:40 <Ukto>	benkay: details tab
Mar 22 19:54:44 <ThickAsThieves>	click Profile
Mar 22 19:54:51 <ThickAsThieves>	then click Description
Mar 22 19:54:53 <Ukto>	profiles, even
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Mar 22 19:55:10 <Ukto>	apparently he took the sell down to fix it
Mar 22 19:55:35 <benkay>	using Bitcoins to talk about bitcoins
Mar 22 19:55:37 <benkay>	super profesh
Mar 22 19:56:04 <benkay>	"we will also be buying shares of asic miner as they become reasonably priced"
Mar 22 19:56:05 <benkay>	yo dawhg
Mar 22 19:56:10 <benkay>	i herd u liked gambling
Mar 22 19:56:23 <Ukto>	heh, its their choice
Mar 22 19:56:31 <Ukto>	most things in bitcoin world are gambling
Mar 22 19:56:39 <Ukto>	exchanging, etc
Mar 22 19:56:47 <benkay>	rly?
Mar 22 19:56:47 <Ukto>	of some form or another
Mar 22 19:56:51 <benkay>	bitcoins have inherent value tho bro
Mar 22 19:56:59 <Ukto>	yeah, sell it one day
Mar 22 19:57:02 <Ukto>	the next day its double value
Mar 22 19:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4940001 = 2.47 BTC [-]
Mar 22 19:57:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.49400001 = 9.88 BTC [-]
Mar 22 19:57:05 <benkay>	you can't gamble with a thing's inherent value
Mar 22 19:57:10 <benkay>	nvm
Mar 22 19:57:22 <benkay>	that was going to take too much energy.
Mar 22 19:57:28 <Ukto>	probably. :)
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Mar 22 20:03:49 *	jurov promptly wrote some put options
Mar 22 20:04:42 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 22 20:04:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.75500, Best ask: 69.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.24499, Last trade: 69.99999, 24 hour volume: 73192.71947822, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 70.64505
Mar 22 20:04:56 <smickles>	;;market --sell 15000
Mar 22 20:04:59 <gribble>	A market order to sell 15000 bitcoins right now would net 974132.1233 USD and would take the last price down to 62.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 64.9421 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
Mar 22 20:05:16 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 22 20:05:16 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 22 20:05:26 <smickles>	;;bids 75
Mar 22 20:05:27 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 28.0741 seconds
Mar 22 20:05:34 <smickles>	;;asks 75
Mar 22 20:05:34 <gribble>	There are currently 18428.25 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 1356900.05522 USD in total. | Data vintage: 35.7716 seconds
Mar 22 20:05:49 <smickles>	jurov: wth?
Mar 22 20:06:15 <jurov>	go to https://bitfunder.com/asset/AMC, click Options tab
Mar 22 20:06:23 <smickles>	oh, those kind of options
Mar 22 20:06:35 *	smickles was thinking mpex options
Mar 22 20:11:02 <benkay>	jurov, you expect AMC to keel over?
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Mar 22 20:13:47 <jurov>	just waiting for some reaction
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Mar 22 20:14:08 <jurov>	but they indeed have some right ingredients
Mar 22 20:14:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.09 = 1.8 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 20:15:29 <benkay>	right ingredients for what?
Mar 22 20:15:35 <ThickAsThieves>	keeling
Mar 22 20:15:36 <jurov>	to keel over
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Mar 22 20:15:48 <benkay>	just checking
Mar 22 20:15:55 <benkay>	what ingredients tripped your filters?
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Mar 22 20:16:37 <jurov>	for example
Mar 22 20:16:51 <jurov>	"The team has been involved with the Bitcoin project since 2009"
Mar 22 20:16:59 <jurov>	but no url, website, project, anything
Mar 22 20:17:06 <ThickAsThieves>	they want SO much money
Mar 22 20:17:17 <ThickAsThieves>	with so little to show
Mar 22 20:17:45 <jurov>	benkay such things really needs explanation?
Mar 22 20:17:52 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe-pr sez, get in the wot, build your history
Mar 22 20:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	people know better
Mar 22 20:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	two years later it's "we've been lurking since two years ago"
Mar 22 20:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	"prove it" "uhhhh"
Mar 22 20:18:18 <benkay>	i'm always interested in hearing about others' filters
Mar 22 20:18:26 <benkay>	i have my own
Mar 22 20:18:50 <benkay>	but the cool thing about mental immune systems is that they peer-bootstrap
Mar 22 20:18:54 <benkay>	*shrug*
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Mar 22 20:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	benkay they're also difficult to package into words.
Mar 22 20:21:34 <jurov>	AMC stands above all others as the most trusted ASIC Bitcoin Mining Cooperative and ASIC Developer.
Mar 22 20:21:34 <benkay>	zomg writings r hard
Mar 22 20:21:45 <benkay>	i kid, i kid.
Mar 22 20:21:45 <jurov>	all scammers are full of trust
Mar 22 20:22:15 <jurov>	i think the word "trust" isn't even mentioned on coinbr website for example, quite the opposite
Mar 22 20:22:26 <jurov>	we just deliver
Mar 22 20:22:43 <tiberiusiv>	cavritex up close to 30%
Mar 22 20:22:44 <benkay>	bullshit talks
Mar 22 20:22:46 <benkay>	:)
Mar 22 20:22:50 <tiberiusiv>	since ipo
Mar 22 20:23:03 <benkay>	not calling your shop bullshit, jurov. describing actions of actors in community.
Mar 22 20:23:28 <jurov>	no, i was not implying that
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Mar 22 20:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	he has a point tho. narcissism, niceness and all the rest of the social proof stuff correlates with social engineers.
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Mar 22 20:25:24 <benkay>	the close on that quote is "gangsters walk"
Mar 22 20:25:27 <smickles>	anytime anyone says 'thank you' they are just trying to get you to do more shit for them in the future :P
Mar 22 20:25:36 <benkay>	duh
Mar 22 20:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Mar 22 20:25:45 <benkay>	why do you think I thank everyone for the things they do for me?
Mar 22 20:25:48 <smickles>	manipulative bastards
Mar 22 20:26:10 <benkay>	it's just manners, man
Mar 22 20:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	today waitress gave me check, made change, i refused it and instead of thank you
Mar 22 20:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	she said "i love you"
Mar 22 20:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	point in case.
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Mar 22 20:26:28 <benkay>	you probably tipped something absurd
Mar 22 20:26:35 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Mar 22 20:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	but tips are rare here.
Mar 22 20:27:02 <smickles>	oh, it's manners? so you are trying to put yourself in a seperate class :<
Mar 22 20:27:06 <mircea_popescu>	(also i've been there miltiple times but this iirc was the first time when i was alone)
Mar 22 20:27:15 <benkay>	there are already separate classes, smickles
Mar 22 20:27:18 <benkay>	some are born into them,
Mar 22 20:27:19 <smickles>	above me! ha! i has no manners
Mar 22 20:27:21 <benkay>	others have to learn.
Mar 22 20:27:25 <benkay>	some never do.
Mar 22 20:27:28 <benkay>	it's all just signaling
Mar 22 20:27:36 <mircea_popescu>	smickles old woman! who is your lord ?
Mar 22 20:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1013 @ 0.0007121 = 0.7214 BTC [+]
Mar 22 20:28:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25685 @ 0.00070622 = 18.1393 BTC [-]
Mar 22 20:28:27 <smickles>	in all srsness, manipulating people that way is almost always benificial and should be done
Mar 22 20:28:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00068941 = 8.204 BTC [-]
Mar 22 20:29:19 <smickles>	it might even be such a good thing that it's why our species has done well
Mar 22 20:29:27 <smickles>	*partly why
Mar 22 20:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, why do people say "let's do it again sometime" instead of "thank you" :D
Mar 22 20:29:38 <kakobrekla>	look at the bitcoinland
Mar 22 20:29:43 <kakobrekla>	we are not doing well at all!
Mar 22 20:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ty.
Mar 22 20:29:56 <kakobrekla>	fuckin monkeys.
Mar 22 20:30:11 <kakobrekla>	ah stfu mp :D
Mar 22 20:30:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: they probably just mean the same thing
Mar 22 20:30:32 <smickles>	or they are just letting the matrix slip out a little
Mar 22 20:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	see, kako is manipulating me into having sex with his gf.
Mar 22 20:30:38 <smickles>	so to speak
Mar 22 20:30:51 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 22 20:30:58 <kakobrekla>	glwt
Mar 22 20:31:18 <smickles>	oh, that reminds me
Mar 22 20:31:26 <mircea_popescu>	poor ms smickles.
Mar 22 20:31:41 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: my wife declined your invitation to romania for sex dungeon activities
Mar 22 20:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Mar 22 20:32:10 <smickles>	hehe
Mar 22 20:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	wait. i forgot all about this. when was she scheduled to appear ?
Mar 22 20:32:39 <smickles>	well, considering it was a joke, i don't think we made solid arrangements
Mar 22 20:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	a joke, he says.
Mar 22 20:33:28 <smickles>	prolly her loss anyway
Mar 22 20:33:30 <mircea_popescu>	Mar 22 19:44:50 <benkay>	99% of the time you're serious
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Mar 22 20:33:33 <mircea_popescu>	^
Mar 22 20:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	now im gonna have to call my berber connection, kidnam moar circassian chix
Mar 22 20:34:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009899 = 0.0297 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 20:36:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01989 BTC [+]
Mar 22 20:36:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0199 BTC [+]
Mar 22 20:42:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10794 @ 0.00068613 = 7.4061 BTC [-]
Mar 22 20:44:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.8096 = 4.8576 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 20:58:36 <jurov>	AMC CEO/CTO, Kenneth(Ken) E. Slaughter - that's true name?
Mar 22 20:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	kinda common name
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Mar 22 21:08:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
Mar 22 21:10:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00404 = 0.0404 BTC [-]
Mar 22 21:10:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00403 BTC [-]
Mar 22 21:10:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00402 = 0.0804 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 21:15:51 <benkay>	heh
Mar 22 21:15:59 <benkay>	"no salaries will be paid as an expense"
Mar 22 21:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	don't trust anyone from Argentina or Brazil; or Russia or Ukraine, etc.
Mar 22 21:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	don't trust anyone from Florida
Mar 22 21:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol jcpham
Mar 22 21:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	why not china ?
Mar 22 21:18:42 <mircea_popescu>	"a good deal is rarely time sensitive." that's plain untrue.
Mar 22 21:18:57 <benkay>	gotcha
Mar 22 21:19:00 <benkay>	http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=80003437&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=z8WH&locale=en_US&srchid=e8237cef-3548-4ffc-9811-1de442f6ebcb-0&srchindex=6&srchtotal=24&goback=%2Efps_PBCK_*1_Ken_Slaughter_*1_*1_*1_*1_*2_*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_*1_*51_*1_*51_true_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2&pvs=ps&trk=pp_profile_name_link
Mar 22 21:19:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.8096 = 5.6672 BTC [-]
Mar 22 21:20:20 <benkay>	homie has 3 linkedin connections
Mar 22 21:20:45 <benkay>	a self-described "experienced software executive"
Mar 22 21:21:13 <benkay>	he may actually have some cloud experience
Mar 22 21:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	ahh, the executive.
Mar 22 21:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	you know they have "Executive toilets" in the states now ?
Mar 22 21:21:47 <benkay>	"I have people for that"
Mar 22 21:21:52 <benkay>	nudge nudge mp
Mar 22 21:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	unlike the common toilets, these are really executive
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Mar 22 21:22:15 <benkay>	they bring a new level of professionalism to executing your movements
Mar 22 21:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	+ they have experience
Mar 22 21:23:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8096 BTC [-]
Mar 22 21:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	"For this type of service (and most others) #bitcoin-otc is old and completely irrelevant."
Mar 22 21:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	why the butthurt ?
Mar 22 21:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5499 BTC [+]
Mar 22 21:27:58 <benkay>	bitcoin-otc is currently involved in a biblical discussion
Mar 22 21:27:58 <benkay>	amc may have a point
Mar 22 21:28:39 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: romania needs to be added to that list
Mar 22 21:30:07 <benkay>	so
Mar 22 21:30:13 <benkay>	given the state of the crap that is otc
Mar 22 21:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00068249 = 3.6854 BTC [-]
Mar 22 21:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.528999 = 1.058 BTC [+]
Mar 22 21:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
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Mar 22 21:42:38 <kakobrekla>	!r unbalanced_away
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Mar 22 22:02:28 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 22 22:02:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.12739, Best ask: 69.48999, Bid-ask spread: 0.36260, Last trade: 69.12740, 24 hour volume: 71874.62529399, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.74999, 24 hour vwap: 70.57386
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Mar 22 22:06:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 22:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5289 = 2.6445 BTC [-]
Mar 22 22:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.5499 = 2.7495 BTC [+]
Mar 22 22:22:55 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov are you there?
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Mar 22 22:29:28 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves i'm here.. thanks to psu failure
Mar 22 22:31:56 <jurov>	hopefully nobody noticed
Mar 22 22:33:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00068249 = 10.135 BTC [-]
Mar 22 22:33:49 <ThickAsThieves>	any coinbr-ers want my referral?
Mar 22 22:34:46 <jurov>	wish you good luck but i think it doesn't work that way xD
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Mar 22 22:35:02 <jurov>	better to lurk till someone comes and asks
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Mar 22 22:35:18 <jurov>	here, on -otc, on reddit, and else
Mar 22 22:35:47 <ThickAsThieves>	what i mean is
Mar 22 22:35:51 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm registering
Mar 22 22:36:33 <jurov>	ah so
Mar 22 22:37:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i have an idea
Mar 22 22:37:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll give it to Deprived
Mar 22 22:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.528999 = 1.058 BTC [+]
Mar 22 22:38:27 <jurov>	is he around ? or i can look up deprived's code for you?
Mar 22 22:38:52 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah you can do that
Mar 22 22:38:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll pm him
Mar 22 22:44:03 <jurov>	his refcode is: 86wnxLBgte
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Mar 22 22:45:10 <jurov>	hope he won't be angry that referral credits will mess with his neat accounting :)
Mar 22 22:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/m356871-print.aspx
Mar 22 22:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	the public is indignant. chilled salad fork!!
Mar 22 22:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	stupid idea
Mar 22 22:46:51 <ThickAsThieves>	he can add it his ATF then
Mar 22 22:46:53 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 22 22:46:59 <benkay>	all the money in the world
Mar 22 22:47:13 <benkay>	and mircea_popescu spends his time browsing prole food review sites
Mar 22 22:47:17 <benkay>	that's...
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Mar 22 22:47:20 <benkay>	a new kind of slumming.
Mar 22 22:47:28 <benkay>	same as the old kind.
Mar 22 22:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	actually i got that sent to me :D
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Mar 22 22:48:24 <ThickAsThieves>	the whole thing is chilling
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Mar 22 22:50:58 <benkay>	apologies for blacktape noise, all
Mar 22 22:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5289 BTC [-]
Mar 22 22:51:07 <benkay>	but in the grand tradition of bitcoin-assets
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Mar 22 22:51:13 <benkay>	today we test in production
Mar 22 22:51:25 <benkay>	well
Mar 22 22:51:26 <benkay>	staging
Mar 22 22:51:28 <benkay>	but same diff.
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Mar 22 22:53:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8883 @ 0.00068326 = 6.0694 BTC [+]
Mar 22 22:54:45 <jurov>	yea. and replugging PSU's on live servers.
Mar 22 22:55:20 <jurov>	well, all seems fine now, any other coinbr-related requests?
Mar 22 22:56:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8095 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:04:44 <jurov>	so, goodnight then
Mar 22 23:05:04 <ThickAsThieves>	nite
Mar 22 23:11:29 <Namworld>	About the AMC thing, I like the name on the invoice for their ASIC miners.
Mar 22 23:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11421 @ 0.00068249 = 7.7947 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7414 @ 0.000675 = 5.0045 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:11:51 <Namworld>	Ken Slaughter
Mar 22 23:11:57 <benkay>	he's a real human
Mar 22 23:12:21 <benkay>	http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=80003437&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=z8WH&locale=en_US&srchid=e8237cef-3548-4ffc-9811-1de442f6ebcb-0&srchindex=6&srchtotal=24&goback=%2Efps_PBCK_*1_Ken_Slaughter_*1_*1_*1_*1_*2_*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_*1_*51_*1_*51_true_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2&pvs=ps&trk=pp_profile_name_link
Mar 22 23:13:07 <Namworld>	The name is promising for investors.
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Mar 22 23:18:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8095 BTC [-]
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Mar 22 23:29:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01401 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:30:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000678 = 0.002 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 22 23:31:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.78211 = 4.6927 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:32:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00068326 = 1.9815 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 23:34:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:34:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0048 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:34:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:34:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.5499 = 1.6497 BTC [+]
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Mar 22 23:41:35 <Bowjob>	wew
Mar 22 23:41:52 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 22 23:41:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.54301, Best ask: 68.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.45698, Last trade: 68.99999, 24 hour volume: 68403.53313381, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.74998, 24 hour vwap: 70.35406
Mar 22 23:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 22 23:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.16975919 / 66.68063398 / 67.41250707 (39315 shares, 9,083.51 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 22 23:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder.
Mar 22 23:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4978 @ 0.00068102 = 3.3901 BTC [-]
Mar 22 23:49:39 <Bowjob>	80 by next week
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Mar 22 23:51:27 <Namworld>	next month 1000, two month from then, 1 000 000
Mar 22 23:51:38 <Namworld>	exponential growth and whatnot
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Mar 22 23:52:15 <Namworld>	I wonder where it would actually be if we calculated the exponential curve's formula and determined the expected price in 2 months based on that...
Mar 22 23:53:06 <Namworld>	then on month 3, 0.01 per BTC, the month after 666 per BTC
Mar 22 23:53:39 <Namworld>	at which point humanity gets diagnosed with insanity and gets locked away on a rock floating in space.
Mar 22 23:54:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.78211 = 11.7317 BTC [-]
Mar 23 00:01:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.78211 = 3.9106 BTC [-]
Mar 23 00:01:52 <Namworld>	(clarification notes: I'm getting tired of the price going wild)
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Mar 23 00:25:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18622 @ 0.00068102 = 12.682 BTC [-]
Mar 23 00:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 778 @ 0.000675 = 0.5252 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 00:31:31 <cads>	hey guys, I'd like to learn about the leading thinkers in the BTC assets realm, and learn about the current state of the art
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Mar 23 00:39:27 <cads>	I have a couple professors as school which I am prepared to bug about how we may build options valuation on top of BTC options
Mar 23 00:40:34 <cads>	but I'm actually pretty ignorant about the topic and would love to talk to someone that could help me sketch out the expected phases if a research project intending to produce option valuation model
Mar 23 00:41:30 <cads>	I think it may be difficult to do this absent a risk free interest rate, but I'd love to hear someone's enlightened thoughts on that
Mar 23 00:45:53 <Namworld>	Hello
Mar 23 00:46:06 <cads>	hey Namworld
Mar 23 00:46:35 <Namworld>	Could you give some more details about what you'd like to know exactly?
Mar 23 00:49:21 <cads>	mostly I'd like to hear ideas about how the design of BTC currency Options will likely proceed
Mar 23 00:50:00 <cads>	and to discover what my best next action should be
Mar 23 00:50:36 <Namworld>	Well there's already plenty of options for BTC
Mar 23 00:51:03 <Namworld>	I can't really see much more that what's already available.
Mar 23 00:51:41 <cads>	hrm, I should make it clear that I want to design valuation methods for BTC options
Mar 23 00:53:11 <Namworld>	hmm... valuation methods? In what sense?
Mar 23 00:54:13 <cads>	well, for example, the Black-Scholes formula tries to give a price for European-style options.
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Mar 23 00:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.529 = 2.116 BTC [+]
Mar 23 00:56:10 <Namworld>	hmm... perhaps you could ask mircea. MPEx's bot happens to put bids and asks on options traded at the exchange. I am unsure how it is done.
Mar 23 00:56:20 <Namworld>	Although it's probably proprietary.
Mar 23 00:56:29 <Namworld>	and not going to be disclosed.
Mar 23 00:56:37 <cads>	sure
Mar 23 00:57:09 <cads>	sounds cool, thanks Namworld
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Mar 23 01:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	cads you can probably start by reading up on mpoe, yea.
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Mar 23 01:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	there's been ~2mn notional traded this month, should count for something.
Mar 23 01:12:13 <Namworld>	He wants to know how to valuate options tho... not an easy thing to answer
Mar 23 01:13:17 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Mar 23 01:14:06 <Franktank>	Has anyone heard about the new AMC IPO on BitFunder? Curious on other folks thoughts
Mar 23 01:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	tho what he stated was "the current state of the art". well... the current state of the art is 356`139 option contracts traded this month.
Mar 23 01:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	Franktank i've seen some not so impressed people comment but i've not looked into it myself.
Mar 23 01:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067912 = 3.3956 BTC [+]
Mar 23 01:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16808 @ 0.000675 = 11.3454 BTC [-]
Mar 23 01:16:36 <Namworld>	Ken... Slaughter...
Mar 23 01:16:53 <Namworld>	The names says it.
Mar 23 01:16:56 <Franktank>	Just saw it recently, they appear to be banking their initial revenue on incoming Avalon units (batches 2 and 3) and R&D on an ASIC chip
Mar 23 01:16:58 <Namworld>	The name*
Mar 23 01:17:05 <Franktank>	Startups appear to be the rage these days
Mar 23 01:17:21 <Namworld>	I have a hard time believe R&D part.
Mar 23 01:17:27 <Namworld>	believing*
Mar 23 01:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	Franktank really, they do ? i've not seen a good start-up in months.
Mar 23 01:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	or you mean, the rage as to what's a good something to pretend you're doing these days ?
Mar 23 01:18:29 <cads>	mircea, I am unfamiliar with mpoe. Main point of entry?
Mar 23 01:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745
Mar 23 01:19:20 <mircea_popescu>	that's the charter as it were
Mar 23 01:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	MPOE has been trading btc/usd options since august 2011, there's published monthly reports etc.
Mar 23 01:20:27 <cads>	remarkable!
Mar 23 01:21:45 <cads>	hey mircea, what's BTC like in romania?
Mar 23 01:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	how do you mean ?
Mar 23 01:22:05 *	cads recognizes your name and some of the page content as romanian
Mar 23 01:22:28 <tiberiusiv>	well the gypsies cant get to it
Mar 23 01:22:32 <cads>	hehe
Mar 23 01:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 23 01:22:44 <cads>	give it a year
Mar 23 01:23:03 <cads>	if you think we don't have technogypsies you're wrong
Mar 23 01:23:08 <cads>	;)
Mar 23 01:23:09 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: 2mn notional of BTC?
Mar 23 01:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	2mn notional of dollars.
Mar 23 01:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	tho i missed a zero.
Mar 23 01:23:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  356139 * [mtgox --last]
Mar 23 01:23:53 <gribble>	Error: "mtgox" is not a valid command.
Mar 23 01:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  356139 * [gox --last]
Mar 23 01:23:57 <gribble>	Error: "gox" is not a valid command.
Mar 23 01:24:01 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck is it ?
Mar 23 01:24:28 <cads>	;;calc  356139 * [mt-gox --last]
Mar 23 01:24:28 <gribble>	Error: "mt-gox" is not a valid command.
Mar 23 01:24:37 <cads>	:P
Mar 23 01:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 23 01:24:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.10000, Best ask: 68.24000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 68.10000, 24 hour volume: 69191.85990614, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.70000, 24 hour vwap: 70.19614
Mar 23 01:24:46 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: how safe is supercar ownership in romania?
Mar 23 01:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  356139 * 68.1
Mar 23 01:25:00 <gribble>	24253065.9
Mar 23 01:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv about as safe as upstate ny.
Mar 23 01:25:54 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: so what do the girls say about a multi millionaire using 15 year old CRT monitors and staying in littered rooms?
Mar 23 01:26:03 <cads>	mircea_popescu: thanks for linking me to the charter
Mar 23 01:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv haha i'll have to ask i guess.
Mar 23 01:26:42 <jcpham>	am i missing eskimobob right now?
Mar 23 01:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	you're getting old aren't you :D
Mar 23 01:27:19 <tiberiusiv>	franktank: i thought avalon was using batch #2 money to pay for batch #1
Mar 23 01:27:24 <jcpham>	will he show up if i say his name?
Mar 23 01:27:43 <tiberiusiv>	and hoping profits make up the shortfall
Mar 23 01:27:44 <cads>	mircea_popescu: are the american romanian girls just all the pretty girls from romania, or are the girls even prettier back home?
Mar 23 01:28:01 <tiberiusiv>	cads: most romanians immigrate to canada
Mar 23 01:28:03 <tiberiusiv>	not US
Mar 23 01:28:04 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv amusingly, asicminer is using batch 2 chips to make up for blown batch 1 and avalon is using batch 2 money to pay for batch 1. it's like... all the same company.
Mar 23 01:28:21 <tiberiusiv>	LOL
Mar 23 01:28:24 <mircea_popescu>	cads eeuropean girls are pretty hot in general.
Mar 23 01:28:33 <cads>	tiberiusiv: this is why I always thought it strange to find myself in georgia!
Mar 23 01:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	from poland to georgia yeah.
Mar 23 01:28:43 <cads>	aka red neck capital of the world
Mar 23 01:28:46 <jcpham>	girls...
Mar 23 01:28:50 <jcpham>	no comment
Mar 23 01:28:52 <tiberiusiv>	poland is an undervalued region
Mar 23 01:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2618 @ 0.00067092 = 1.7565 BTC [-]
Mar 23 01:29:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1582 @ 0.00068326 = 1.0809 BTC [+]
Mar 23 01:29:33 <tiberiusiv>	cads: US girls are too manly
Mar 23 01:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	cads what school is that anyway ?
Mar 23 01:30:08 *	cads likes a woman with small breasts, a lack of fashion, and a math phd.
Mar 23 01:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv just bad diet for the most part.
Mar 23 01:30:31 *	cads is like the opposite of the standard romanian man
Mar 23 01:30:32 <tiberiusiv>	cads none of that fits EU girls?
Mar 23 01:30:41 <mircea_popescu>	cads http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135422020536.jpg which one ?
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Mar 23 01:31:05 <cads>	mircea_popescu: oh dear jesus both please!
Mar 23 01:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 23 01:31:13 <tiberiusiv>	cads: so you arent a neanderthal?
Mar 23 01:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	so cads really likes sisters.
Mar 23 01:31:44 <cads>	mircea_popescu: they look like conjoined sisters
Mar 23 01:31:54 <cads>	both sprouting out of that gorgeous butt
Mar 23 01:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	cajoled at the hyip
Mar 23 01:32:22 <tiberiusiv>	BTC sellers becoming motivated
Mar 23 01:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol the ogre girl of czech republic.
Mar 23 01:32:39 <mircea_popescu>	one great bubblebutt, two heads, 4 tits
Mar 23 01:33:51 <cads>	mircea_popescu: okay, which of these 3 lovely MIT students do you choose: http://philip.greenspun.com/images/pcd2668/three-graces-straight-full-27
Mar 23 01:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha greenspun ?
Mar 23 01:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	i thought im the only one that still remembers that old codger
Mar 23 01:34:19 <cads>	famous photography. Titled "3 Graces"
Mar 23 01:34:25 <cads>	they're all undergrads
Mar 23 01:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	but none.
Mar 23 01:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't he dating the one on the lft ?
Mar 23 01:34:48 <cads>	mircea_popescu: you're correct
Mar 23 01:35:02 <cads>	the correct answer is "I"m sorry, none of them have PhDs"
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Mar 23 01:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	what's the guy up to these days, you have him ?
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Mar 23 01:36:11 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I only know a little lore about him - I'm not a student of MIT
Mar 23 01:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	ah. right, you said school earlier, what school is that ?
Mar 23 01:36:45 <cads>	georgia state
Mar 23 01:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	learn something every day.
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Mar 23 01:38:24 <cads>	aye
Mar 23 01:38:55 <cads>	mircea_popescu, I think I must have seen your name around the BTC sites and community before today.
Mar 23 01:39:06 <cads>	that or you've published some paper or something
Mar 23 01:39:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's possible.
Mar 23 01:39:26 <cads>	what's your academic background?
Mar 23 01:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	philosophy/anthropology
Mar 23 01:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	gah where's that pastie
Mar 23 01:40:06 <cads>	hah, a nice yet tractable jump to BTC :)
Mar 23 01:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	my blog readers kept insisting.
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Mar 23 01:42:57 <cads>	hey mircea, Namworld mentions that you run an automatic optinos trading bot. Would you mind attesting to the veracity of that fact?
Mar 23 01:43:23 <cads>	ah yes, optinos - the quantum unit of financial options.
Mar 23 01:44:19 <cads>	mircea_popescu: if you do not wish to mention any details about it that is perfectly fine
Mar 23 01:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	you ever seen http://mpex.co/ ?
Mar 23 01:45:18 <cads>	not before right now
Mar 23 01:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
Mar 23 01:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/289947-republican-proposes-letting-lawmakers-work-from-home << anonymous approves.
Mar 23 01:50:15 <cads>	hey mircea_popescu, I just noticed the romanian version of your charter
Mar 23 01:50:21 <cads>	rock on!
Mar 23 01:50:26 <mircea_popescu>	yee
Mar 23 01:50:37 *	cads will be able to share it with his dad
Mar 23 01:51:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.5499 = 3.8493 BTC [+]
Mar 23 01:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	sharing is caring!
Mar 23 01:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.5499 = 3.2994 BTC [+]
Mar 23 01:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.55 = 4.95 BTC [+]
Mar 23 01:53:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.55 = 2.75 BTC [+]
Mar 23 01:54:47 <Namworld>	VTX doing incredibly well I believe
Mar 23 01:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock vtc
Mar 23 01:55:00 <assbot>	Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
Mar 23 01:55:00 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock vtx
Mar 23 01:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.44980000 / 0.52045992 / 0.55000000 (308 shares, 160.30165433 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.39820061 / 0.55000000 (10343 shares, 4118.58893151 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.39820061 / 0.55000000 (10343 shares, 4118.58893151 BTC)
Mar 23 01:55:07 <mircea_popescu>	indeed, not bad at all.
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Mar 23 01:56:33 <mircea_popescu>	what was rthe story there, 30% sold for 5k btc ?
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Mar 23 01:59:43 <cads>	mircea_popescu: as of this moment what I see when I look at mpex.co is a hellacious mass of legal jargon smattered with quantitative data readouts :)
Mar 23 02:00:06 <mircea_popescu>	sounds about right.
Mar 23 02:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the O.BTCUSD stuff, those are all option lines
Mar 23 02:00:26 <cads>	I'm glad I'm not hallucinating, then. :)
Mar 23 02:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	mpex stands as an insult to the intelligence of the average voter.
Mar 23 02:03:21 <cads>	mircea_popescu: oh thanks to dogs there is a faq.
Mar 23 02:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	that won't help.
Mar 23 02:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.564555 = 1.1291 BTC [+]
Mar 23 02:04:04 <cads>	who the fuck coded all this?
Mar 23 02:04:28 <mircea_popescu>	evil people.
Mar 23 02:04:43 <cads>	I want to shake his hand and punch him at the same time
Mar 23 02:04:52 <cads>	no offense, if this is you
Mar 23 02:04:58 <cads>	I may even mean that as a compliment
Mar 23 02:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	it's not me.
Mar 23 02:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	a good section of tools etc were actually developed by community peeps
Mar 23 02:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	like pympex, coinbr, there's also a windows gui and a phone one in the works
Mar 23 02:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	therre's a creeds towards the end
Mar 23 02:07:07 <cads>	I can generally eventually converge on an understanding of technojargon, even without help
Mar 23 02:07:25 <cads>	but it usually requires a few in depth readings, and some secondary reference material
Mar 23 02:07:52 <cads>	right now I'm not reading anything technical with the intention of trying to understand it :)
Mar 23 02:08:14 <mircea_popescu>	well, you can go through the MPEx category on trilema, there's a lot of stuff there
Mar 23 02:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	also a lot of fluff
Mar 23 02:08:25 <cads>	so mpex is a software framework for deploying exchanges
Mar 23 02:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's an exchange.
Mar 23 02:08:41 <cads>	options exchanges*
Mar 23 02:08:48 <mircea_popescu>	S.* are equities.
Mar 23 02:08:53 <mircea_popescu>	X.* are futures
Mar 23 02:10:38 <cads>	mircea_popescu: do we still have to pay 30 BTC in fees for account registration?
Mar 23 02:10:55 <cads>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#3
Mar 23 02:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 23 02:12:56 <cads>	and the investors can justify this cost in expected revenue?
Mar 23 02:13:25 *	cads doesn't know what rabbit hole he has stumbled into, but he likes it
Mar 23 02:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	it is deep.
Mar 23 02:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, mpex is bitcoin's nyse
Mar 23 02:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	average investors are not expected to buy themselves a seat at the exchange
Mar 23 02:13:55 <mircea_popescu>	and most wouldn't know what to do with it if they had it.
Mar 23 02:14:31 <mircea_popescu>	but, for high volume or sophisticated peeps it's a nice perk.
Mar 23 02:14:39 <cads>	can I learn what investors at the exchange do?
Mar 23 02:14:42 <Namworld>	I already paid the cost of the seat plenty
Mar 23 02:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	cads they issue orders
Mar 23 02:15:00 <Namworld>	trade shares, mostly
Mar 23 02:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, since option stuff was your main interest, read up on the oix
Mar 23 02:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;g mpex oix
Mar 23 02:15:54 <gribble>	Error: "g" is not a valid command.
Mar 23 02:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;google mpex oix
Mar 23 02:15:59 <gribble>	MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.: <http://mpex.co/>; o.btcusd.c290n - MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.: <http://mpex.co/~polimedi/bitcoin/>; nat.routers - MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.: <http://mpex.co/?mpsic=NAT.ROUTERS>
Mar 23 02:16:04 <cads>	and what must they do, from a decision making standpoint - average investors make decisions based on gut. Do these investors use quant as well?
Mar 23 02:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	jesus that's useless.
Mar 23 02:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/introducing-the-oix/ there
Mar 23 02:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	they mustn't do anything. they do what they please,. buy, sell , whatever
Mar 23 02:18:04 <cads>	I mean only that it seems they must guarantee that their decisions are of high quality
Mar 23 02:18:28 <cads>	or else they risk wasting the sizeable initial fee
Mar 23 02:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	i don't follow the logic
Mar 23 02:19:09 <cads>	and am wondering what additional decision making measures these investors generally adopt, above and beyond basic investment strategies
Mar 23 02:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	there was a 10k btc buy of S.DICE in one go at some point.
Mar 23 02:19:43 <mircea_popescu>	the fee hardly figures in this discussion
Mar 23 02:19:46 <cads>	do investors in mpex generally pay their own analysts, for example?
Mar 23 02:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	i would imagine some do
Mar 23 02:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	probably most do at least some themselves.
Mar 23 02:21:59 <cads>	since I'm most interested in options, and since these traditionally have theory, I'm now wondering if any of these guys have paid analysts to derive appropriatate new pricing models for these options
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Mar 23 02:22:17 <cads>	mircea_popescu: what type of option is traded on the mpex?
Mar 23 02:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	american settled on last friday of each month
Mar 23 02:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	T is current N is next month
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Mar 23 02:25:44 <cads>	mircea_popescu: how much money is good enough to play?
Mar 23 02:25:53 <cads>	"if you have to ask...."
Mar 23 02:26:09 <mircea_popescu>	last calculation i recall something like 2k btc total trade volume justifies the fee
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Mar 23 02:26:42 <mircea_popescu>	you know it occurs to me... when new person takes an hour just to gaze at the edges of this thing...
Mar 23 02:26:46 <mircea_popescu>	you know you've built something.
Mar 23 02:26:57 <cads>	mircea_popescu: so I could work with a 500 BTC base an recoup the entry cost over a handful of months?
Mar 23 02:27:19 <cads>	mircea_popescu: haha, what a very romanian sentiment :)
Mar 23 02:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	is it ?
Mar 23 02:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, mpex charges .2% seller only. if you make .5 round trip then .3 difference will yiueld 30 btc over 10k traded.
Mar 23 02:28:26 <mircea_popescu>	but this is just a sidepoint. if you're looking to invest btc what are you going to do ?
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Mar 23 02:29:07 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 02:29:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.11000, Best ask: 67.29998, Bid-ask spread: 0.18998, Last trade: 67.29998, 24 hour volume: 67513.96570233, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 69.98189
Mar 23 02:29:13 <Bowjob>	ouch
Mar 23 02:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	o we shed a dolla ?
Mar 23 02:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	was 68.1 an ghour ago
Mar 23 02:31:15 <cads>	mircea_popescu: at this point I'd like only to understand how to imagine, visualize, and refine an mpex investment strategy
Mar 23 02:31:23 <cads>	mircea_popescu: do you play chess?
Mar 23 02:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes yea
Mar 23 02:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, btc investment strategies are an intellectual contribution
Mar 23 02:32:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.571002 BTC [+]
Mar 23 02:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is new, price data extends little in the past, there's a lot of weirdness in the market
Mar 23 02:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	so the more people thinking about it the better, a fertile field as it's called.
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Mar 23 02:32:44 <mircea_popescu>	certainly the best phds of the future will b done on bitcoin/mpex/whatever
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Mar 23 02:35:25 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I see it as a low entry cost into a promising finance research field
Mar 23 02:35:26 <cads>	mircea_popescu: yeah, even if mpex and btc are superseded, what agents learn about this market will be valuable  in the future
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Mar 23 02:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	it certainly used to be very low cost
Mar 23 02:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	with the current run up i'm not sure i'd call it low cost, but it IS moderate
Mar 23 02:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	especially considering what training traders costs on the fiat markets.
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Mar 23 02:36:56 <cads>	mircea_popescu: at least I will not be competing with well established finance phds already working in the field :)
Mar 23 02:37:10 <cads>	I can turn this into a virtual finance university in time
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Mar 23 02:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	you will be.
Mar 23 02:37:46 <cads>	using BTC and its derivatives as the lesson ground and the tournament ground for the students
Mar 23 02:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess about a third of the best minds of this generation are more or less discreetly circling the matter.
Mar 23 02:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	even leaving aside the conference trail clowns, the ideological types and all the geek weirdoes,
Mar 23 02:39:00 <mircea_popescu>	it still leaves a lot of people
Mar 23 02:39:05 <cads>	well I'd better know how to speak bitcoin before the hiring managers at large hedge funds realize it :)
Mar 23 02:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	certainly will be a career, no doubt in my mind.
Mar 23 02:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	even tiny minute things done in five minutes today will be a career down the road.
Mar 23 02:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	and mpex is all about creating a market and bulding an ecosystem, so.
Mar 23 02:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	this will be pushed forward.
Mar 23 02:40:13 <cads>	I think it will determine the long term fate of the btc
Mar 23 02:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 23 02:41:33 <cads>	in the sense that derivatives is what will give BTC the depth and complexity needed to take on the real world
Mar 23 02:41:43 <mircea_popescu>	where's that arms quote
Mar 23 02:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	{mircea_popescu} people don’t understand many things, chief among which that the world is at war, and finance is the means of that war.
Mar 23 02:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	{mircea_popescu} mpex is here to arm bitcoin with all the high impact high efficiency weapons fiat currencies have.
Mar 23 02:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	there.
Mar 23 02:42:23 <cads>	bam
Mar 23 02:42:32 <cads>	effective metaphor
Mar 23 02:46:36 <Bowjob>	hey mp, some people are bitching that they bet on the Avalon bet
Mar 23 02:46:42 <Bowjob>	because they thought it includes batch 2
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Mar 23 02:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	well... some people will always bitch about something
Mar 23 02:47:47 <Bowjob>	so its locked in then
Mar 23 02:47:48 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 23 02:48:09 <Bowjob>	they think they;ll win by technicality since at the time, batch 2 was included
Mar 23 02:48:32 *	cads suddenly wished he had a commissioned art work
Mar 23 02:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	yeah well, people thinking they'll leech everyone else don't historically do so well on bitbet
Mar 23 02:48:48 <mircea_popescu>	there were people who waited for btc/usd to be 49.99 before betting
Mar 23 02:48:54 <cads>	some plan to design a building for someone
Mar 23 02:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	only to discover that no, bitcoin is not instantaneous
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Mar 23 02:49:39 *	cads will take this as indication that he should in fact try drafting a design for the physical BTC exchange 
Mar 23 02:50:00 <KRS1>	Am I wrong by saying it looks like the market has peaked and is now heading downward?
Mar 23 02:50:07 <KRS1>	mt gox
Mar 23 02:50:07 <Bowjob>	http://store.avalon-asics.com/
Mar 23 02:50:16 <cads>	KRS1: not even wrong :)
Mar 23 02:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	cads someone's sorta-playing with making a hm
Mar 23 02:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	what's that virtual reality game ? not second life, the other one
Mar 23 02:50:36 <cads>	hm?
Mar 23 02:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	the one with the bricks and hats
Mar 23 02:50:45 <Bowjob>	tf2?
Mar 23 02:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Mar 23 02:50:51 <Bowjob>	what about it
Mar 23 02:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	a tf2 mpex
Mar 23 02:51:03 <Bowjob>	i have 1800 hrs clocked in that game
Mar 23 02:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	that sounds like a lot.
Mar 23 02:51:26 <cads>	yeah, games are nice, but trade center plans are nicer
Mar 23 02:51:39 <Bowjob>	yah
Mar 23 02:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 looks pretty likely yea
Mar 23 02:51:48 <Bowjob>	well, half of it is probably done through trading
Mar 23 02:51:51 <cads>	despite not being... entirely needed at the time
Mar 23 02:51:52 <Bowjob>	and idling
Mar 23 02:52:00 <Bowjob>	and avalon released batch 3 already
Mar 23 02:52:13 <KRS1>	thx
Mar 23 02:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	it had to peak out eventually.
Mar 23 02:52:32 <mircea_popescu>	75ish is honorable.
Mar 23 02:52:42 <cads>	KRS1: aww that's cute how you treat mircea_popescu as the BTC godfather
Mar 23 02:53:04 <Namworld>	Is it really peaking tho? It's weekend and price seems to be holding
Mar 23 02:53:14 <Bowjob>	weekend dip
Mar 23 02:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld well... we won't know till next week
Mar 23 02:53:17 <Bowjob>	*yawn
Mar 23 02:53:26 <Namworld>	I can't wait to see
Mar 23 02:53:35 <Namworld>	I'd really like to see the 100 breached.
Mar 23 02:53:39 <mircea_popescu>	but beart in mind, 2 consecutive red days
Mar 23 02:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	first time this rally.
Mar 23 02:53:47 <Namworld>	That would be newsworthy
Mar 23 02:53:54 <KRS1>	I treaded mircea_popescu how?
Mar 23 02:54:04 <Namworld>	Yeah, well it's got to be losing steam by now
Mar 23 02:54:14 <KRS1>	Avalon seemed to have raied their prices?
Mar 23 02:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	yea.
Mar 23 02:54:30 <cads>	KRS1: hehe, no worries, it was just some meaningless teasing
Mar 23 02:54:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00067526 = 5.5034 BTC [-]
Mar 23 02:54:55 <Bowjob>	its based on btc now
Mar 23 02:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	tbh, from a macro perspective 100+ is prolly too much.
Mar 23 02:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	there's such a thing as too much attention, and so forth
Mar 23 02:55:47 <Bowjob>	You are showing your outward anger because you know you make close to no sense. If anything, this statement is worded vaguely enough that it should be considered a bad bet. The bottom line is that if you go by the betting statement wording and the dates, there are two batches under pre-order. Good attempt to sway betting action by writing a ridiculously vague statement, though. Read the betting statement word for word as it's 
Mar 23 02:55:58 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 23 02:56:09 <Bowjob>	Bah, idk about those butthurt trolls
Mar 23 02:56:13 <Bowjob>	your call mp
Mar 23 02:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	there's a site mod team, what.
Mar 23 02:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	theyll figure it out
Mar 23 02:56:35 <Bowjob>	ah
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Mar 23 02:59:51 <KRS1>	cads: thats cool idk what you meant ..its all good..just came in for some mt gox market wisdom wanted to sell btc before the market dips as all markets do
Mar 23 02:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/315357147934375936
Mar 23 03:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	me helping out "coding entrepreneurs", whatever the fuck that is now.
Mar 23 03:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	"executive geek"
Mar 23 03:01:21 <TradeFortress_>	"jQuery rockstar"
Mar 23 03:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	right
Mar 23 03:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	"pillow girlfriend"
Mar 23 03:02:18 <KRS1>	im still waiting for my BFL SC I ordered in Aug. anyone know anything about that?
Mar 23 03:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	o boy.
Mar 23 03:02:42 <Bowjob>	we hit 66
Mar 23 03:02:44 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 03:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	seems like that's a write-off, KRS1
Mar 23 03:02:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 66.66000, Best ask: 66.99995, Bid-ask spread: 0.33995, Last trade: 66.99997, 24 hour volume: 65609.91092104, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 69.91589
Mar 23 03:02:50 <Bowjob>	number of the beast
Mar 23 03:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	66.66 no less.
Mar 23 03:02:58 <Bowjob>	with an extra 6
Mar 23 03:03:09 <KRS1>	i was wobbed huh
Mar 23 03:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/preemptive-strike-to-have-on-hand-for-when-butterfly-labs-gets-hauled-off-to-jail-in-corpore/
Mar 23 03:03:32 <TradeFortress_>	wonder if it's because it's real hard to buy btc right now
Mar 23 03:03:36 <KRS1>	great..
Mar 23 03:03:39 <Bowjob>	this sucks for people who bought in at 75
Mar 23 03:03:53 <KRS1>	my friend has some actual BFL hardware but not ASIC
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Mar 23 03:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress_ i think it's safe to blame the entire coin* fiasco for it.
Mar 23 03:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	not terribly accurate, but still, safe.
Mar 23 03:04:46 <KRS1>	Wow thanks for sharing
Mar 23 03:04:47 <TradeFortress_>	and bitinstant too
Mar 23 03:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
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Mar 23 03:05:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00068407 = 3.694 BTC [+]
Mar 23 03:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	the truely funny thing here, and this is a shoutout for all my conspiracy dawgs,
Mar 23 03:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	is that btc peaked at 75, JUST AS S.DICE.
Mar 23 03:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	which also peaked at 75
Mar 23 03:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	clearly manipulated matkets.
Mar 23 03:09:22 *	Namworld puts tinfoil hat on
Mar 23 03:15:46 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 03:15:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 66.00001, Best ask: 66.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29999, Last trade: 66.30000, 24 hour volume: 66468.13921981, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 69.81931
Mar 23 03:15:55 <Bowjob>	this selloff
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Mar 23 03:17:22 <Namworld>	The day is not completed however. It may still be green by the end of the day.
Mar 23 03:17:53 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/
Mar 23 03:17:57 <Bowjob>	I see dump after dump
Mar 23 03:18:21 <Namworld>	The previous dip on the 12th before the 50 wall was broken was more massive for a lower value.
Mar 23 03:18:28 <Namworld>	Proportionally it was much bigger.
Mar 23 03:19:32 <Bowjob>	$65.85
Mar 23 03:19:51 <Namworld>	and the graph shows a lot of fluctuation. It even shows lower some time ago
Mar 23 03:20:15 <Namworld>	We were slighlty under 65 some time ago on coinlab and it popped back to 70...
Mar 23 03:20:46 <Bowjob>	i bet lucif is partying right now, saying he called this from 3 months ago
Mar 23 03:20:54 <Namworld>	We might fluctuate back and forth at the 75 wall until it breaks or buyers get tired.
Mar 23 03:24:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33002 BTC [-]
Mar 23 03:24:11 <cads>	Wow, this is a rush.
Mar 23 03:24:23 <cads>	How low can she go?
Mar 23 03:25:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.80946 BTC [+]
Mar 23 03:25:56 <cads>	so what w're seeing right now is essentially a random walk
Mar 23 03:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	cads : http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE
Mar 23 03:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	select 1 month
Mar 23 03:26:18 <cads>	but we might attempt to compute its derivative to see in which direction it's walking?
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Mar 23 03:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	evertythin's a drunken stumbler
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Mar 23 03:27:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.80946 = 1.6189 BTC [+]
Mar 23 03:28:41 <TradeFortress_>	just bet 10 btc on bfl not shipping before apr 1st
Mar 23 03:28:43 <TradeFortress_>	free coins
Mar 23 03:29:02 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 03:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	is that still open ?
Mar 23 03:29:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.59807, Best ask: 64.46880, Bid-ask spread: 0.87073, Last trade: 62.28200, 24 hour volume: 68148.80678210, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 69.72187
Mar 23 03:29:10 <Bowjob>	wow
Mar 23 03:29:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0046 = 0.0368 BTC [-]
Mar 23 03:29:22 <Bowjob>	LTC on the other hand
Mar 23 03:29:25 <TradeFortress_>	yes, 263 to 65
Mar 23 03:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	i like how bfl's credibility goes.
Mar 23 03:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	march delivery, 1,8k btc
Mar 23 03:29:57 <mircea_popescu>	april delivery, 330 btc
Mar 23 03:29:58 <Bowjob>	anyone watching coinlab? It's hurting
Mar 23 03:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	july delivery, 25 btc
Mar 23 03:30:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 10 @ 0.15298694 = 1.5299 BTC [+]
Mar 23 03:30:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 52 @ 0.004639 = 0.2412 BTC [+]
Mar 23 03:31:13 <Bowjob>	is this a bull trap
Mar 23 03:32:10 <Bowjob>	btc-e hit 58
Mar 23 03:32:10 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 23 03:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	"Also, I am considering an increase in the price of the remaining IPO shares upon receipt of the company's batch 2 Avalon. Given the diminishing yield current shareholders have experienced while we await our first ASIC hardware I think it's fair to reward those that have held fast."
Mar 23 03:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	zero understanding of wtf an ipo is etc.
Mar 23 03:33:29 <Bowjob>	bull to the rescue i see some buying
Mar 23 03:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	62
Mar 23 03:34:56 <KRS1>	some decent buying?
Mar 23 03:35:13 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 03:35:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.00150, Best ask: 65.02193, Bid-ask spread: 0.02043, Last trade: 65.00000, 24 hour volume: 76669.42587939, 24 hour low: 62.02310, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 69.02867
Mar 23 03:35:16 <Bowjob>	see
Mar 23 03:35:23 <KRS1>	yep
Mar 23 03:35:49 <Bowjob>	honestly, i dont see the ppoint to switching btc for fiat
Mar 23 03:36:08 <Bowjob>	you'd lose out later
Mar 23 03:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	who was saying options aren't high enough ? :D jurov ^
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Mar 23 03:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1661314#msg1661314 mpoe-pr wins "dumbest person in this forum award"
Mar 23 03:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	cosidering the forum is btctalk... wow. just wow.
Mar 23 03:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	being the smartest person at nasa is probably softer competition
Mar 23 03:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4108 @ 0.00068613 = 2.8186 BTC [+]
Mar 23 03:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068821 = 3.4411 BTC [+]
Mar 23 03:40:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7292 @ 0.00068991 = 5.0308 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 03:47:57 <Namworld>	[03:28] <TradeFortress_> just bet 10 btc on bfl not shipping before apr 1st
Mar 23 03:47:57 <Namworld>	[03:28] <TradeFortress_> free coins
Mar 23 03:48:04 <Namworld>	darn
Mar 23 03:48:26 <TradeFortress_>	hmm?
Mar 23 03:48:57 <TradeFortress_>	did bfl ship -.-
Mar 23 03:49:05 <Namworld>	well you could bet 100 BTC at current weight and get 1/20th of 60 so 3 BTC
Mar 23 03:49:11 <Namworld>	Easy peasy
Mar 23 03:49:26 <Namworld>	The weight is just very low
Mar 23 03:49:30 <Namworld>	Still, 3%
Mar 23 03:50:14 <Namworld>	Not bad for a safe bet
Mar 23 03:50:29 <TradeFortress_>	yep, I've got better ones on betofbitcoin
Mar 23 03:50:41 <TradeFortress_>	when the event already happened
Mar 23 03:51:54 <Namworld>	>.>
Mar 23 03:51:59 <Namworld>	no wonder it failed
Mar 23 03:53:32 <Bowjob>	mp
Mar 23 03:53:33 <Bowjob>	Also, I am considering an increase in the price of the remaining IPO shares upon receipt of the company's batch 2 Avalon. Given the diminishing yield current shareholders have experienced while we await our first ASIC hardware I think it's fair to reward those that have held fast.
Mar 23 03:53:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7821 BTC [-]
Mar 23 03:53:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.782 BTC [-]
Mar 23 03:53:41 <Bowjob>	where did this quote came from
Mar 23 03:53:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7811 = 1.5622 BTC [-]
Mar 23 03:53:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 26 @ 0.78102 = 20.3065 BTC [-]
Mar 23 03:53:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.77002 = 3.0801 BTC [-]
Mar 23 03:54:29 <TradeFortress_>	Bowjob, maybe AMC
Mar 23 03:54:32 <TradeFortress_>	not sure
Mar 23 03:56:00 <Bowjob>	didnt bitcoin drop when batch 2 released
Mar 23 03:57:01 <Bowjob>	my old account didnt work for batch 3 shipment, i guess i have to register again
Mar 23 03:59:35 <Bowjob>	guy
Mar 23 03:59:36 <Bowjob>	s
Mar 23 03:59:37 <Bowjob>	http://www.google.se/trends/explore#q=sell%20bitcoin,%20sell%20bitcoins
Mar 23 03:59:38 <Bowjob>	Mhm
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Mar 23 04:03:51 <Namworld>	buy bitcoins is pretty much the same tho
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Mar 23 04:04:14 <TradeFortress_>	yup
Mar 23 04:05:10 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 04:05:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.05000, Best ask: 64.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 64.30000, 24 hour volume: 79479.64260130, 24 hour low: 62.02310, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 68.77207
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Mar 23 04:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob yeah
Mar 23 04:09:05 <mircea_popescu>	lmao, there's a first chop. http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136402004167.jpg
Mar 23 04:10:03 <Bowjob>	leo
Mar 23 04:20:53 <Bowjob>	I went to SR today, just to check things out.. You could actually buy candies with it
Mar 23 04:22:02 <Bowjob>	They had interestig stuff.. a cellphone jammer, a gps tracker, hacking ebooks, wireless camera detector.. shit that can get me in trouble
Mar 23 04:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	do they have one of those now-banned airport scanners
Mar 23 04:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	where you can take nude shots of dressed girls ?
Mar 23 04:23:30 <Bowjob>	ah, didnt check. the site was too slow for me
Mar 23 04:24:40 <Bowjob>	they had banned books, guides on how to make meth, guides about hiding things,
Mar 23 04:24:59 <Bowjob>	even a guide about picking up chicks.. and some porn links.
Mar 23 04:25:19 <cads>	Bowjob: surely nothing that's not also available via the torrent sites?
Mar 23 04:25:36 <Bowjob>	yeap, ive recognized one ive watched before, actually
Mar 23 04:25:57 <mircea_popescu>	lmao pick up guide
Mar 23 04:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	ok, that does it
Mar 23 04:26:08 <mircea_popescu>	sr is just bullshit, honestly.
Mar 23 04:27:20 <cads>	mircea_popescu: do you believe that blockchain datamining will at some point begin revealing the identities of the SR early adopters?
Mar 23 04:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Mar 23 04:28:17 <cads>	To quote my baby brother, 'why not?'
Mar 23 04:28:24 <Namworld>	SR is a free market really... I guess anyone can peddle just about anything
Mar 23 04:28:28 <Namworld>	I'll go sell lints
Mar 23 04:28:59 <Bowjob>	no guns though
Mar 23 04:29:04 <Bowjob>	and murder contracts
Mar 23 04:29:39 <Namworld>	My pockets farm is producing lots of extra lint this year...
Mar 23 04:29:40 <mircea_popescu>	cads well, how much do you understand about the blockchain ?
Mar 23 04:31:07 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 04:31:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 62.03000, Best ask: 62.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17000, Last trade: 62.03000, 24 hour volume: 83830.41415795, 24 hour low: 62.02310, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 68.41685
Mar 23 04:31:17 <Bowjob>	that knife.. i can feel it
Mar 23 04:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	back to 62 huh
Mar 23 04:31:43 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I've read shamir's paper where shamir tracks cashflows from originator to recipient, even through large networks of obfuscation
Mar 23 04:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	options closed just in time i swear.
Mar 23 04:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	cads shamir is an idiot and his paper is about 80% nonsense.
Mar 23 04:32:06 <cads>	mircea_popescu: he handwaves his treatment of the block chain
Mar 23 04:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 23 04:32:21 <cads>	so I don't know how much to believe
Mar 23 04:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	ok, let's see here. do you understand public key criptography ?
Mar 23 04:32:39 <cads>	I definitely do need to read the hashcash papers and the original satoshi paper
Mar 23 04:33:13 <cads>	mircea_popescu: yes, I understand those reasonably well
Mar 23 04:33:15 <mircea_popescu>	ok.
Mar 23 04:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	given an arbitrary set of public keys and an arbitrary set of encrypted messages
Mar 23 04:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	what chances do you give yourself to identify which messages were addressed to which keys ?
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Mar 23 04:34:51 <Bowjob>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/f/src/130457425546.jpg
Mar 23 04:34:54 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 23 04:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 23 04:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	stop making me click gore omg
Mar 23 04:35:22 <mircea_popescu>	a trolled by his own site is i.
Mar 23 04:35:32 <Bowjob>	its on your site
Mar 23 04:36:12 <cads>	mircea_popescu: a naive search should scale exponentially :P
Mar 23 04:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	you're presuming key information is included as plaintext.
Mar 23 04:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	it is not.
Mar 23 04:36:43 <mircea_popescu>	you'll have to bruteforce.
Mar 23 04:36:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P730T] 9 @ 0.15137648 = 1.3624 BTC [+]
Mar 23 04:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 8 @ 0.17605726 = 1.4085 BTC [+]
Mar 23 04:36:56 <cads>	right, bruteforce is exponentialish
Mar 23 04:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, well, the particular hashing scheme used by the bitcoin addresses is calculated to be unbruteforceable
Mar 23 04:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	for thermodynamic reasons
Mar 23 04:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	so it's exponential outside of the real of the physically possible.
Mar 23 04:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	your only practical avenue is side channels.
Mar 23 04:37:52 <Bowjob>	well, we may be dropping
Mar 23 04:37:52 <cads>	anyways, that seems like a red herring because the has tree has more structure than the two sets of messages and keys
Mar 23 04:38:00 <Bowjob>	but the fundamentals are exceedingly strong
Mar 23 04:38:06 <Bowjob>	*holds
Mar 23 04:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	cads yes it does have it, but that's optional.
Mar 23 04:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	you can run bitcoin in such a manner as to not include more structure than unrelated pairs, ever.
Mar 23 04:38:24 <tiberiusiv>	fundamentals lag price
Mar 23 04:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	hence the side channel comment
Mar 23 04:39:12 <cads>	mircea_popescu: even the devs claim that bitcoin transactions can be tracked if they're not intractably mixed via a mixer.
Mar 23 04:39:31 <mircea_popescu>	the devs don't have much of a clue about many things.
Mar 23 04:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	if you make one wallet per inbound payment, there's no tracing possible.
Mar 23 04:39:49 <tiberiusiv>	that guy offering his house for BTC marked the top
Mar 23 04:39:56 <tiberiusiv>	as i predicted
Mar 23 04:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	as no two addresses are ever going to be joined in inputs
Mar 23 04:40:04 <cads>	mircea_popescu: it sounds like your account is not much better. I will have to read the paper for myself and faithfully learn the scheme.
Mar 23 04:40:29 <cads>	enough second guessing for me :)
Mar 23 04:40:31 <mircea_popescu>	well, it's not practical to run 100% security, as is always the case
Mar 23 04:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	but that's not to say you couldn't if you wanted.
Mar 23 04:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	which conversely means you can never be certain you'll get analytical results worth a crap.
Mar 23 04:41:34 <cads>	I need to see a theoretical paper on the function of anonymization mixers too
Mar 23 04:42:04 <cads>	unless these things give us provable cryptographic guarantees of anonymity, I don't trust it
Mar 23 04:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	they don't.
Mar 23 04:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	they should be called obfuscators really.
Mar 23 04:42:29 <cads>	eep :)
Mar 23 04:42:39 <cads>	so they work on what is essentially wishful thinking
Mar 23 04:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	kinda.
Mar 23 04:42:51 <cads>	fantastic :)
Mar 23 04:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	maybe there's parts of that i don't understand, but afaik...
Mar 23 04:43:06 <cads>	minunat :P
Mar 23 04:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, as best i can determine the only workable mixer paradigm is what mpex employs :
Mar 23 04:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	have all inbound payments to the same address
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Mar 23 04:44:12 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I guess I have my new research questions
Mar 23 04:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 23 04:44:25 <tiberiusiv>	BTC has a massive liquidity problem
Mar 23 04:44:33 <tiberiusiv>	no other asset class loses 20-30% in the span of 2hrs
Mar 23 04:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	if you are the reading sort, the old crypto mail list discussions with satoshi et all are quite informative on many topics
Mar 23 04:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv yes.
Mar 23 04:44:54 <mircea_popescu>	it's not liquidity tho, it's sense.
Mar 23 04:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.529 BTC [+]
Mar 23 04:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	no other asset class is plagued with such a concentrartion of high powered idiots.
Mar 23 04:45:40 <Namworld>	You should see OTC... real panic...
Mar 23 04:45:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P730T] 6 @ 0.1588357 = 0.953 BTC [+]
Mar 23 04:45:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 5 @ 0.18424999 = 0.9212 BTC [+]
Mar 23 04:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.57099998 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 04:46:14 <mircea_popescu>	point in case
Mar 23 04:46:15 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Mar 23 04:46:29 <cads>	<maji> ITS NOT GOING TO STOP
Mar 23 04:46:29 <cads>	<maji> OH MY GOD
Mar 23 04:46:31 <Namworld>	bids remain strong tho yet asks...
Mar 23 04:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	o looky 58
Mar 23 04:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 23 04:46:34 *	cads laughs
Mar 23 04:46:47 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Mar 23 04:46:47 <assbot>	Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
Mar 23 04:46:58 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 23 04:46:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 58.22000, Best ask: 58.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.58000, Last trade: 58.22000, 24 hour volume: 92634.92542725, 24 hour low: 57.80000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 67.57447
Mar 23 04:47:06 <Diablo-D3>	wtf we crashed?
Mar 23 04:47:13 <Namworld>	People are panic selling
Mar 23 04:47:14 <Bowjob>	Unbelievable
Mar 23 04:47:24 <Diablo-D3>	ha ha let them
Mar 23 04:47:31 <Bowjob>	hey, its a good opportunity to buy now
Mar 23 04:47:32 <Diablo-D3>	I wont sell until we hit $1000
Mar 23 04:47:34 <Bowjob>	for Avalon 3 if yo want
Mar 23 04:47:40 <tiberiusiv>	doubt we see 70 again this year
Mar 23 04:47:46 <awkorama>	omg
Mar 23 04:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	im with him
Mar 23 04:47:47 <cads>	Namworld: the yay part is that I panic sold back when things were at my favorite number, 69
Mar 23 04:47:52 <awkorama>	proper trolling
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Mar 23 04:47:56 <tiberiusiv>	guy offering his house for BTC marked the top
Mar 23 04:48:07 <Namworld>	All within 2 hours
Mar 23 04:48:10 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 04:48:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.78000, Best ask: 57.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 57.85000, 24 hour volume: 94019.67462292, 24 hour low: 57.78000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 67.43441
Mar 23 04:48:14 <Bowjob>	ouch
Mar 23 04:48:17 <Bowjob>	this hurts
Mar 23 04:48:50 *	cads drives the price down with his whip
Mar 23 04:48:56 <cads>	down! down!
Mar 23 04:49:00 <cads>	yaah!
Mar 23 04:49:02 <tiberiusiv>	BTC can go to single digits in the span of 4hrs
Mar 23 04:49:11 <tiberiusiv>	theres no bids relative to BTC outstanding
Mar 23 04:49:25 <tiberiusiv>	you only need 1-2% of bitcoins being sold at a given time to crash the price
Mar 23 04:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	single digits would be cool.
Mar 23 04:49:44 <mircea_popescu>	i'd have to re-re-refactor my option names
Mar 23 04:49:51 <mircea_popescu>	EXACTLY the other way from what i announced i'll do
Mar 23 04:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	not 12 hours ago
Mar 23 04:50:18 <Namworld>	>.>
Mar 23 04:50:24 <Namworld>	[04:49] <manosyd> if it goes near 45, it wiill stabilize there for atleast a month or so
Mar 23 04:50:24 <Namworld>	[04:49] <manosyd> then when the bounce comes, no stopping it till 120
Mar 23 04:50:33 <Namworld>	more excellent quotes from OTC
Mar 23 04:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	and if it goes near 18
Mar 23 04:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	it will be legal to fuck
Mar 23 04:50:43 <Namworld>	I bet guy both at 45
Mar 23 04:50:48 <Bowjob>	im strangely calm amids all this chaos
Mar 23 04:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Mar 23 04:50:49 <Namworld>	bought*
Mar 23 04:50:56 <Bowjob>	amidst. fuck i cant spell
Mar 23 04:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob there's no chaos, we;'re having lulz
Mar 23 04:51:01 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 23 04:51:11 <Bowjob>	panic selling is a bad bad baahd idea
Mar 23 04:51:14 <Namworld>	I have shares earning in USD... I have stocks in BTC...
Mar 23 04:51:23 <Namworld>	Really, to me, both way is fine
Mar 23 04:51:31 <Bowjob>	no changes in fundamentals, we'll have bear meat soon
Mar 23 04:51:33 <Namworld>	Goes to a low price, I get cheap bitcoins
Mar 23 04:51:51 <Bowjob>	and ltc goes up
Mar 23 04:51:52 <Namworld>	Goes high, I get lots of value out into bitcoin stuff
Mar 23 04:52:09 <Bowjob>	seems like LTC goes up when btc goes down
Mar 23 04:52:22 <Bowjob>	and the other way around too
Mar 23 04:52:23 <Namworld>	My favorite way of cashing out is through funding some businesses I like I Bitcoinland.
Mar 23 04:52:29 <Namworld>	Instead of selling BTC
Mar 23 04:52:37 <Bowjob>	LTC keeps 50 cents mhm
Mar 23 04:53:06 <tiberiusiv>	dude $1k moves LTC like 30%
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Mar 23 04:53:29 <Bowjob>	$56
Mar 23 04:53:46 <Bowjob>	those two numbers were switched the other way
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Mar 23 04:56:49 <cads>	I"m so sleepy
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Mar 23 04:57:12 <Bowjob>	we lost about 1/3rd of BTC's purchasing strength
Mar 23 04:57:14 <cads>	but I want to follow the market down so I can buy back in when it's done
Mar 23 04:57:17 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: hurts for mpex market cap
Mar 23 04:57:36 *	cads muses for a moment on "first world problems"
Mar 23 04:57:39 <Bowjob>	maybe ianbakewell will go legit..
Mar 23 04:57:46 <Bowjob>	saying.. he got into an accident
Mar 23 04:57:56 <tiberiusiv>	you wont be able to buy when its done because theres barely any  coins offered until 65
Mar 23 04:57:56 <Bowjob>	and pays everyone at this point
Mar 23 04:58:57 <Bowjob>	53 dollars
Mar 23 04:59:01 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 04:59:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.01000, Best ask: 53.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54000, Last trade: 53.01000, 24 hour volume: 107782.51352993, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 65.83923
Mar 23 05:00:11 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv yeah ;/
Mar 23 05:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	i got to like 49.6 mn or some shit... but not 50 ;/
Mar 23 05:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	 Best ask: 53.5500 <<
Mar 23 05:00:56 <tiberiusiv>	at the end of the day BTC is nothing more then a confidence game
Mar 23 05:01:04 <tiberiusiv>	it has no intrinsic value
Mar 23 05:01:18 <tiberiusiv>	and confidence can change on a whim
Mar 23 05:01:55 <cads>	This drop feels good. Like being overdrunk, and finally vomiting the extra poison out.
Mar 23 05:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	you two make a nice picture together.
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Mar 23 05:04:32 <error4733>	!ticker
Mar 23 05:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/veil_model1.jpg
Mar 23 05:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	ahahahaha
Mar 23 05:05:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297383/Cyprus-bailout-President-Nikos-Anastasiades-warned-friends-money-abroad.html also pretty cute
Mar 23 05:06:23 <Bowjob>	and... I'm down $4000 in unrealized profit
Mar 23 05:06:43 <Bowjob>	might as well play dice to get those unrealized profits back
Mar 23 05:06:51 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 23 05:07:37 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 05:07:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 55.00000, Best ask: 55.71460, Bid-ask spread: 0.71460, Last trade: 55.71460, 24 hour volume: 108334.59487058, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 65.77385
Mar 23 05:07:44 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 05:07:45 <gribble>	199.314923 seconds
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Mar 23 05:10:01 <tiberiusiv>	mpex loses close to 40% of market cap in under 2 hours
Mar 23 05:10:07 <tiberiusiv>	ouch
Mar 23 05:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Mar 23 05:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	it's a bitcoin corp, not a fiat corp.
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Mar 23 05:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	it probably gained a lot in zimbabwe dollars or w/e other fake currency out there nobody cares about.
Mar 23 05:11:54 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 05:11:55 <gribble>	140.39499 seconds
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Mar 23 05:12:55 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 05:12:56 <gribble>	97.329551 seconds
Mar 23 05:13:57 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 05:13:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 56.87473, Best ask: 59.49000, Bid-ask spread: 2.61527, Last trade: 59.49000, 24 hour volume: 108334.59487058, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 65.77385
Mar 23 05:14:12 <Bowjob>	all right you stupid bears. You will eat the knife. and like it too
Mar 23 05:16:43 <tiberiusiv>	;;ask 70
Mar 23 05:16:43 <gribble>	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
Mar 23 05:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 23 05:17:09 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.0966739654541 seconds
Mar 23 05:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 05:17:11 <gribble>	15.540302 seconds
Mar 23 05:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 23 05:17:36 <Bowjob>	we're hanging to 60
Mar 23 05:17:38 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 05:17:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 60.70000, Best ask: 61.23400, Bid-ask spread: 0.53400, Last trade: 61.23400, 24 hour volume: 115184.27493444, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 64.81793
Mar 23 05:17:46 <Bowjob>	Heh, hehehehehehe
Mar 23 05:18:09 <tiberiusiv>	too bad the nearest bid is at 53
Mar 23 05:18:33 <Bowjob>	arent you always negative
Mar 23 05:20:30 <Bowjob>	it bothers me that gox fucks up their trades
Mar 23 05:20:35 <Bowjob>	will coinlab be like this too?
Mar 23 05:20:43 <Bowjob>	plagued by lag, ect
Mar 23 05:20:47 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 05:20:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 62.00000, Best ask: 62.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 62.80000, 24 hour volume: 116073.49685910, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 64.74844
Mar 23 05:20:49 <mircea_popescu>	this is coinbaselab
Mar 23 05:21:33 <Bowjob>	so same engine?
Mar 23 05:29:09 <Namworld>	http://www.coinlab.com/
Mar 23 05:29:30 <Namworld>	notice the warning in red over the ticker
Mar 23 05:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	does it say "We suck" ?
Mar 23 05:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, their site doesn't load in my browser. so much win.
Mar 23 05:32:23 <Namworld>	I think it's synonymous
Mar 23 05:32:51 <Namworld>	the warning says: "Mt. Gox sockets are down. Trade data will not update until they come back online, and depth data will only update once every 15 minutes. Sorry! "
Mar 23 05:33:00 <mircea_popescu>	o ic
Mar 23 05:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	this is reminiscent of tradehill's "the old tradehill site is to blame" response to defrauded customers complaining on tyheir failed relaunch attempt
Mar 23 05:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	so avg price dropped ~ 5 bux off 70 peak in 2 hours
Mar 23 05:35:07 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 05:35:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 62.90000, Best ask: 63.16668, Bid-ask spread: 0.26668, Last trade: 62.90000, 24 hour volume: 116073.49685910, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 64.74844
Mar 23 05:35:12 <Bowjob>	yeah i guess
Mar 23 05:35:22 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 05:35:23 <gribble>	212.825885 seconds
Mar 23 05:35:30 <Bowjob>	well.
Mar 23 05:35:33 <Bowjob>	shit
Mar 23 05:35:33 <error4733>	:fuuuuuu:
Mar 23 05:35:33 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 23 05:35:50 <Bowjob>	it went 53, someone reported getting an order filled for 51
Mar 23 05:35:54 <Bowjob>	that must hurt for the bear
Mar 23 05:36:29 <mircea_popescu>	next time anyone wants to trust the conference trail scum with a toy worth half a billion dollars,
Mar 23 05:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	remember coinlab and vessenes.
Mar 23 05:39:43 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 05:39:43 <gribble>	0.173256 seconds
Mar 23 05:39:47 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 05:39:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 62.48999, Best ask: 62.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 62.49000, 24 hour volume: 116073.49685910, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 64.74844
Mar 23 05:39:59 <Bowjob>	im okay with this
Mar 23 05:40:21 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 23 05:40:30 <Namworld>	look at that spread
Mar 23 05:40:31 <mircea_popescu>	weekend barely just begun
Mar 23 05:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	wait till the news spreads
Mar 23 05:40:44 <mircea_popescu>	there's going to be a 2nd prong i think
Mar 23 05:41:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;asks 55
Mar 23 05:41:10 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0023 seconds
Mar 23 05:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;bids 52
Mar 23 05:41:15 <gribble>	There are currently 17190.312 bitcoins demanded at or over 52.0 USD, worth 937427.107527 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.3785 seconds
Mar 23 05:41:34 <saulimus>	it will get pretty volatile
Mar 23 05:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;bids 55
Mar 23 05:41:35 <gribble>	There are currently 8854.509 bitcoins demanded at or over 55.0 USD, worth 494777.013854 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.2820 seconds
Mar 23 05:41:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;bids 58
Mar 23 05:41:42 <gribble>	There are currently 831.89671 bitcoins demanded at or over 58.0 USD, worth 48595.2207021 USD in total. | Data vintage: 31.6176 seconds
Mar 23 05:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	superold data
Mar 23 05:42:42 <Bowjob>	30 seconds is too late in bitcoinland
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Mar 23 05:43:20 <Bowjob>	https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/
Mar 23 05:43:22 <Bowjob>	still 77
Mar 23 05:43:24 <Bowjob>	damn
Mar 23 05:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 23 05:43:46 <Bowjob>	canadianbitcoins used to be pretty cheap, sometimes even lower than gox prices
Mar 23 05:43:58 <Bowjob>	back in dec
Mar 23 05:44:23 <Bowjob>	you could buy from canadianbtc and make profit arbitraging it to fastcash4bitcoins
Mar 23 05:44:48 <Bowjob>	cadbtc selling for 13.5, fastcas paying 14
Mar 23 05:44:49 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 23 05:46:08 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 05:46:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.95000, Best ask: 62.48999, Bid-ask spread: 0.53999, Last trade: 61.95000, 24 hour volume: 126755.91316438, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 64.42759
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Mar 23 06:05:35 <Namworld>	Actually, fees on cavirtex are 3% to .5% depending on volume...
Mar 23 06:05:56 <Namworld>	Assuming an average of 2% and daily trading of 1500 BTC
Mar 23 06:06:10 <Namworld>	that's 30 BTC per day
Mar 23 06:06:19 <error4733>	10K shares ?
Mar 23 06:06:48 <Namworld>	Divided by 100 000 shares (10k IPOed for 10%), that's 0.0003 BTC per day
Mar 23 06:07:30 <error4733>	for 0.4btc/share (IPO price)
Mar 23 06:07:41 <Namworld>	So 0.1095 BTC per year or 25% per year
Mar 23 06:07:56 <error4733>	in BTC land, nothing
Mar 23 06:08:20 <Namworld>	eh
Mar 23 06:08:30 <Namworld>	They're stable tho
Mar 23 06:08:45 <Namworld>	Been around since 2011 and actually legitly registered.
Mar 23 06:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	not registered yet afaik
Mar 23 06:10:06 <Bowjob>	they trade btc higher than gox
Mar 23 06:10:09 <error4733>	why they need money ? what they wanna do with IPO money ?
Mar 23 06:10:12 <Bowjob>	but the 3% is killing me
Mar 23 06:10:23 <Namworld>	?
Mar 23 06:10:41 <Bowjob>	3% fee on both sides
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Mar 23 06:11:19 <Namworld>	no, about being registered
Mar 23 06:11:48 <Bowjob>	they are registered legitly
Mar 23 06:13:23 <Namworld>	I thought so too...
Mar 23 06:13:25 <Bowjob>	"lol, party is over.  Years long downtrend in place now.  " -proudhon
Mar 23 06:14:34 <error4733>	"24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.69900" a trader fantasy
Mar 23 06:18:25 <Bowjob>	i didnt move my position. i just watched the action
Mar 23 06:18:34 <Bowjob>	*yawn, im getting desensitized to this
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Mar 23 06:26:44 <Namworld>	Oh shit!!
Mar 23 06:26:54 <Namworld>	AMC is valuating themselves at 1 million BTC?!?
Mar 23 06:27:39 <Bowjob>	what amc?
Mar 23 06:28:20 <TradeFortress>	LOL
Mar 23 06:28:24 <TradeFortress>	someone trying to cash into the asicminer hype
Mar 23 06:28:35 <TradeFortress>	for those who wish they bought avalons / asicminer
Mar 23 06:28:48 <Namworld>	on Bitfunder
Mar 23 06:28:54 <Namworld>	how was that even allowed?
Mar 23 06:29:04 <Bowjob>	asicminer at 1m..
Mar 23 06:29:05 <Bowjob>	wtf
Mar 23 06:29:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob not asicminer
Mar 23 06:29:41 <Namworld>	anonymous dude with zero info whatsoever except bold claims in the text on bitfunder... no website, no info, no nothing
Mar 23 06:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	some wannabe fund that owns what, 2%
Mar 23 06:30:09 <Namworld>	AMC Offering:
Mar 23 06:30:09 <Namworld>	AMC's offering is comprised of 100,000,000 shares in total.
Mar 23 06:30:09 <Namworld>	1 share of AMC on BitFunder represents 1/100,000,000th of 100% of the monthly profits after all expenses.
Mar 23 06:30:11 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld anyway, gotta compete right ?
Mar 23 06:30:17 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Mar 23 06:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	heya.
Mar 23 06:30:26 <kakobrekla>	o, what a drop, 70 to 50
Mar 23 06:30:26 <Bowjob>	Active Mining Cooperative
Mar 23 06:30:29 <Namworld>	If they sell for like 1000 BTC (100 000 shares)
Mar 23 06:30:32 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, wasn't actually listed on the homepage for a while
Mar 23 06:30:57 <Namworld>	They get to keep 99.9% of everything
Mar 23 06:31:03 <Namworld>	AFTER expenses
Mar 23 06:31:08 <Namworld>	What the fuck?
Mar 23 06:31:11 <Bowjob>	it's not like bears went unscathed. bears got gored at 52.
Mar 23 06:31:42 <TradeFortress>	 Net Estimated ROI/Year @ .01 BTC/share 2,847.47208%/Year*
Mar 23 06:32:07 <Bowjob>	Kenneth E. Slaughter
Mar 23 06:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol cute.
Mar 23 06:32:14 <Bowjob>	is that a fake name?
Mar 23 06:32:23 <mircea_popescu>	a well, as long as people are willing to put btc in that people deserve to.
Mar 23 06:33:08 <Bowjob>	holy fuck bitfunder if im trying to copy and paste dont close it up
Mar 23 06:33:20 <Namworld>	Don't people research/read contract/look at past history before putting some coins in?
Mar 23 06:33:57 <TradeFortress>	Namworld, it sold like 11 btc worth
Mar 23 06:34:54 <Bowjob>	avalon batch 4
Mar 23 06:34:59 <Bowjob>	scam
Mar 23 06:36:13 <Namworld>	Est Gross(less power) Revenue 12 Months 2,847,472.08 BTC
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Mar 23 06:36:32 <Namworld>	THERE'S NOT EVEN THAT MUCH MINING GOING TO HAPPEN! >.<
Mar 23 06:36:46 <TradeFortress>	LOL
Mar 23 06:36:47 <TradeFortress>	haha
Mar 23 06:36:51 <TradeFortress>	oh my god
Mar 23 06:37:24 <Namworld>	I hope that 10 BTC was traded by the issuer to stimulate trading...
Mar 23 06:37:35 <Namworld>	How did Ukto let that go through?
Mar 23 06:38:12 <Bowjob>	http://store.avalon-asics.com/?product=avalon-asic-batch-2
Mar 23 06:38:19 <Bowjob>	1500 BTC
Mar 23 06:38:20 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 23 06:39:01 <kakobrekla>	da wat?
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Mar 23 06:39:09 <Namworld>	probably was meant to be 1500 USD but they screwed that
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Mar 23 06:39:38 <kakobrekla>	http://store.avalon-asics.com/?product=avalon-asic-unit
Mar 23 06:39:42 <kakobrekla>	this is last one
Mar 23 06:39:48 <kakobrekla>	no thanks.
Mar 23 06:40:02 <TradeFortress>	Namworld, no
Mar 23 06:40:03 *	unbalanced_away is now known as unbalanced
Mar 23 06:40:05 <TradeFortress>	they want "reasonable ROI"
Mar 23 06:40:09 <kakobrekla>	!r unbalanced
Mar 23 06:40:22 <Bowjob>	how come its 63 gigahash
Mar 23 06:40:23 <TradeFortress>	says 88 btc for me
Mar 23 06:40:33 <Bowjob>	thats slower than.. batch 1 and 2
Mar 23 06:40:46 <TradeFortress>	63GH/s guaranteed
Mar 23 06:40:57 <unbalanced>	bowjob re: "cadbtc selling for 13.5, fastcas paying 14" -- thanks I had to change my pants before realizing you were talking about the good old days
Mar 23 06:41:15 <Bowjob>	Oh, lol. xD
Mar 23 06:41:24 <unbalanced>	Bitcoin... You Must Never Look Away
Mar 23 06:41:30 <Bowjob>	I actually pointed it out to topace, seems like he didn't care at the time
Mar 23 06:41:35 <Bowjob>	but cadbtc is so OP now
Mar 23 06:41:58 <Bowjob>	i never did arb from cadbtc to fastcash, seemed like a dick move
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Mar 23 06:42:33 <MJR__>	crazy ride
Mar 23 06:42:45 <Bowjob>	im used to it
Mar 23 06:42:52 <MJR__>	yeah me too
Mar 23 06:42:57 <Bowjob>	umm yeah so avalon
Mar 23 06:43:05 <MJR__>	what happened?
Mar 23 06:43:06 <Bowjob>	it was 65 gigahash guaranteed
Mar 23 06:43:13 <Bowjob>	but now 63 gigahash guaranteed
Mar 23 06:43:14 <MJR__>	66 I thought
Mar 23 06:43:16 <Bowjob>	that doesnt make sense
Mar 23 06:43:25 <Bowjob>	why would they lower the guarantee rate
Mar 23 06:43:34 <MJR__>	chips?
Mar 23 06:43:46 <Bowjob>	dunno
Mar 23 06:44:02 <MJR__>	I mean, for each batch
Mar 23 06:44:05 <Bowjob>	at this point you'd still make your investment back, though longer
Mar 23 06:44:11 <unbalanced>	cadbtc pegs to virtex recent history, not Mt. Gox, AFAIK
Mar 23 06:44:19 <MJR__>	you lose some chips that don't work
Mar 23 06:44:21 <TradeFortress>	Bowjob, they probably wasted a couple of chips
Mar 23 06:44:28 <TradeFortress>	(well they'd be mining it themselves)
Mar 23 06:44:44 <kakobrekla>	you know how it goes with chiniese, each batch more btc, each batch less hash
Mar 23 06:45:05 <MJR__>	maybe the number that did between 63 and 65 was very significant
Mar 23 06:45:08 <Bowjob>	we actually didnt know that they were the first asic one
Mar 23 06:45:24 <Bowjob>	well, at this point provided bfl doesnt ship
Mar 23 06:45:32 <Bowjob>	batch 3 is gonna be a good deal
Mar 23 06:45:36 <unbalanced>	Virtex used to trade higher than Mt. Gox during uptrends, now seems to all the time. Supply/demand I figure.
Mar 23 06:45:37 <MJR__>	I think so
Mar 23 06:45:51 <Bowjob>	even if bfl ships, i doubt they'd be able to ship all pre orders
Mar 23 06:45:53 <MJR__>	bitfloor ask is $69
Mar 23 06:46:10 <MJR__>	;;ticker
Mar 23 06:46:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.46000, Best ask: 64.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 64.48000, 24 hour volume: 133914.42658800, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 64.05389
Mar 23 06:46:25 <MJR__>	I exercised my 41 calls at 71
Mar 23 06:46:35 <unbalanced>	At this rate I'll catch up to you guys and start asking q's about avalon in another hour or so.
Mar 23 06:46:35 <Bowjob>	you dun well
Mar 23 06:46:50 <Bowjob>	anyways, anyone know how to run an avalon?
Mar 23 06:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/lets-capture-forum-bugs-in-amber/
Mar 23 06:46:56 <MJR__>	lol, my friend was shorting
Mar 23 06:46:58 <unbalanced>	MJR__ nice!
Mar 23 06:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	having a leetal fun
Mar 23 06:47:07 <Bowjob>	i haven't done any mining, at all. this is my first time mining
Mar 23 06:47:12 <MJR__>	so when he was happy about the 5 drop
Mar 23 06:47:32 <MJR__>	Bowjob: you would install the firmware I guess
Mar 23 06:47:46 <MJR__>	and hook it up to a computer...
Mar 23 06:48:00 <Bowjob>	I have not seen a video of avalon from start to finish
Mar 23 06:48:05 <MJR__>	or I think you could even just program it directly
Mar 23 06:48:11 <Bowjob>	right.
Mar 23 06:48:17 <MJR__>	since it runs a Linux os
Mar 23 06:48:21 <Bowjob>	suppose i get the box, i open it. gloves and shit
Mar 23 06:48:43 <MJR__>	attach a monitor and a keyboard
Mar 23 06:48:51 <MJR__>	im guessing
Mar 23 06:49:02 <Bowjob>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon
Mar 23 06:49:35 <Bowjob>	I'm stuck on step 2.
Mar 23 06:49:37 <Bowjob>	"Setup your laptop IP address 192.168.0.101 "
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Mar 23 06:50:18 <MJR__>	huh? are both devices on the same network?
Mar 23 06:51:05 <Bowjob>	no clue, really
Mar 23 06:51:12 <MJR__>	nvm
Mar 23 06:51:25 <MJR__>	you directly attach your laptop to the Avalon
Mar 23 06:51:43 <MJR__>	and then you use a static IP on that port
Mar 23 06:52:03 <MJR__>	then you use a web browser to get to the config page
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Mar 23 06:52:16 <MJR__>	similar to setting up a wifi router
Mar 23 06:52:34 <Bowjob>	If I can't figure this shit out by the time I get my avalon, 2 BTC pot to help me get it running
Mar 23 06:52:47 <Bowjob>	I was able to set up GGPO, so avalon shouldn't be too hard
Mar 23 06:52:49 <TradeFortress>	Bowjob, batch?
Mar 23 06:52:53 <Bowjob>	2
Mar 23 06:53:00 <TradeFortress>	cool
Mar 23 06:53:15 <Bowjob>	i have a decend idea on how to do it, the webgui reminds me of my router
Mar 23 06:53:16 <MJR__>	my friend and I are working on an fpga design
Mar 23 06:53:19 <Bowjob>	*decent
Mar 23 06:53:28 <Bowjob>	anyone else got avalon 2?
Mar 23 06:53:35 <MJR__>	I wish :(
Mar 23 06:53:51 <Bowjob>	I camped out on both days avalon 2s were for sale
Mar 23 06:54:03 <MJR__>	my friend has some very interesting ideas about latency vs throughput
Mar 23 06:54:06 <Bowjob>	my F5 took a beating
Mar 23 06:54:35 <MJR__>	lol, I wish I had an Avalon
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Mar 23 07:01:49 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 23 07:01:51 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227574 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 233 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 1 hour, 32 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6608097.13894 | Estimated Percent Change: 36.31556
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Mar 23 07:05:54 <MJR__>	wow going to be a big jump...
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Mar 23 07:08:03 <MJR__>	even with that new difficulty jump an Avalon more than pays for itself in a week
Mar 23 07:08:17 <kakobrekla>	not in 3 months
Mar 23 07:08:39 <MJR__>	don't know what the diff will be in 3 months...
Mar 23 07:08:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 60 @ 0.01301 = 0.7806 BTC [-]
Mar 23 07:09:12 <MJR__>	Next Difficulty Estimate: 6608097.13894 |
Mar 23 07:09:26 <MJR__>	at that level still 1 week
Mar 23 07:09:56 <MJR__>	so those receiving their avalons now should prob be good
Mar 23 07:11:13 <jurov>	hi all, look what is brewing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156641.0
Mar 23 07:11:23 <Bowjob>	old
Mar 23 07:11:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.01101 = 0.0661 BTC [-]
Mar 23 07:11:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.01 = 0.09 BTC [-]
Mar 23 07:12:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9386 @ 0.00068991 = 6.4755 BTC [+]
Mar 23 07:12:04 <Bowjob>	its nice of him though
Mar 23 07:12:16 <jurov>	but the last comment "OKPAY should be refunded, too" may cause quite a shitstorm
Mar 23 07:12:30 <jurov>	why only miners, srsly?
Mar 23 07:12:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1697 = 16.97 BTC [+]
Mar 23 07:15:28 <jurov>	avoorhees should ask for refunds, too if he lost anything.. wanna see what would the reply to *that* lol
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Mar 23 07:15:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 786 @ 0.00069904 = 0.5494 BTC [+]
Mar 23 07:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	jurov myeah
Mar 23 07:18:41 <mircea_popescu>	999.9995 btc
Mar 23 07:19:11 <Bowjob>	So who here will buy avalon3
Mar 23 07:20:38 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 07:20:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.85829, Best ask: 65.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04171, Last trade: 65.90000, 24 hour volume: 138785.79606428, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.49500, 24 hour vwap: 64.08160
Mar 23 07:21:11 <leotreasure>	i will probably
Mar 23 07:21:44 <leotreasure>	i lol'd at your bfl vs avalon comparison Bowjob
Mar 23 07:22:05 <MJR__>	any news on the bfl front?
Mar 23 07:22:13 <Bowjob>	delay
Mar 23 07:22:29 <Bowjob>	Actually, I had half a mind to plot all of BFL's delays on a chart
Mar 23 07:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	it's gotten to the point where "omg bfl shipping" => instatroll
Mar 23 07:22:36 <MJR__>	lol...in other news the sky is still blue
Mar 23 07:22:44 <MJR__>	yeah
Mar 23 07:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob i never saw that compariosn ?
Mar 23 07:23:00 <damientrog>	any idea when avalon batch 3 will go on sale?
Mar 23 07:23:12 <leotreasure>	it's on sale now i thought
Mar 23 07:23:13 <Bowjob>	damien, very soon. like 1-2 day soon
Mar 23 07:23:15 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156767.msg1662592#msg1662592
Mar 23 07:23:21 <damientrog>	ah great
Mar 23 07:23:23 <leotreasure>	http://store.avalon-asics.com
Mar 23 07:23:25 <Bowjob>	I haven't made the chart yet.
Mar 23 07:23:32 <damientrog>	haha
Mar 23 07:23:33 <mircea_popescu>	anyone here remember the walletbit fiasco ?
Mar 23 07:23:35 <damientrog>	nice post
Mar 23 07:23:41 <Bowjob>	yes
Mar 23 07:23:50 <Bowjob>	MNW asked me about avalon 3 too
Mar 23 07:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 23 07:23:52 <Anduck>	Bowjob: i dont understand that pic =I
Mar 23 07:24:01 <Anduck>	mnw hasnt replied me :((
Mar 23 07:24:08 <Bowjob>	The first picture is box of fans
Mar 23 07:24:18 <Bowjob>	second picture is the avalon asic
Mar 23 07:24:58 <Bowjob>	At this point I believe batch 3 will still be profitable
Mar 23 07:25:09 <Bowjob>	since, having >20k pre orders.. is a nightmare
Mar 23 07:25:47 <Anduck>	duh
Mar 23 07:26:11 <Anduck>	i still dont get it xD
Mar 23 07:27:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00151 = 0.0151 BTC [-]
Mar 23 07:27:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.0015 = 0.015 BTC [-]
Mar 23 07:28:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00142 BTC [-]
Mar 23 07:28:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 12 @ 0.0014 = 0.0168 BTC [-]
Mar 23 07:28:25 <MJR__>	I think so too
Mar 23 07:28:55 <MJR__>	they are projecting that when you get it the difficulty will be a lot higher
Mar 23 07:29:24 <MJR__>	10 million you still pay it off in a month
Mar 23 07:29:38 <MJR__>	diff not price
Mar 23 07:29:54 <Bowjob>	its stilla  good buy, it will just put off many people
Mar 23 07:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't pay them 3x if it brought about the end of the world.
Mar 23 07:30:16 <Bowjob>	I considered ordering 5 more avalons if it was 5x
Mar 23 07:30:17 <mircea_popescu>	prices go down not up.
Mar 23 07:30:23 <Bowjob>	*1.5
Mar 23 07:31:25 <Bowjob>	we should all ask bfl_josh about his seppuku ritual on april 1st
Mar 23 07:31:27 <Bowjob>	:)
Mar 23 07:33:39 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 07:33:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.00000, Best ask: 64.10172, Bid-ask spread: 0.10172, Last trade: 64.10172, 24 hour volume: 140056.39573591, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.49500, 24 hour vwap: 64.07680
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Mar 23 07:37:04 <MJR__>	well, the price is in some way tied to the difficulty
Mar 23 07:37:21 <MJR__>	I don't know the exact formula
Mar 23 07:37:24 <Namworld>	How so?
Mar 23 07:37:42 <MJR__>	the price is a function of the difficulty
Mar 23 07:37:51 <MJR__>	that is by design I think
Mar 23 07:38:06 <MJR__>	but I know that that is the case
Mar 23 07:38:14 <deadweasel>	price whatever someone is willing to give you for it.
Mar 23 07:38:23 <Namworld>	For which manufacturer?
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Mar 23 07:38:31 <MJR__>	not when I put 90 BTC on my website
Mar 23 07:38:33 <Namworld>	One really prices based on difficulty?
Mar 23 07:38:34 <MJR__>	Avalon
Mar 23 07:38:39 <Namworld>	odd
Mar 23 07:38:46 <Namworld>	ok... I'll be AFK
Mar 23 07:38:54 <MJR__>	that is what that one manufacturer is choosing to do
Mar 23 07:39:15 <MJR__>	you have to realize the motives of Avalon
Mar 23 07:39:24 <MJR__>	and it isn't purely profit
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Mar 23 07:41:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99999987 BTC [+]
Mar 23 07:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.584 BTC [+]
Mar 23 07:42:56 <Bowjob>	well, it seems that yifu is interested in helevit.. or soemthing
Mar 23 07:43:00 <Bowjob>	something to do with asics
Mar 23 07:43:08 <Bowjob>	a partnership perhaps?
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Mar 23 07:44:01 <MJR__>	where'd you read that?
Mar 23 07:46:31 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146371.0
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Mar 23 07:49:49 <Bowjob>	worst case scenario i'll see for batch 2 is end of may
Mar 23 07:50:10 <Bowjob>	"Our team needs a vacation after months of day-and-night hard work, and we need time..."
Mar 23 07:50:58 <Bowjob>	that;s like jogging 10 miles, none stop.. thjen taking a nap just 500 meteres from the finish line
Mar 23 07:51:21 <Bowjob>	i can't really do anything about it so im not crying
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Mar 23 07:52:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4864 @ 0.00068141 = 3.3144 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 07:58:51 <pizzaman1337>	so, apparently I missed the action, what caused BTCUSD to drop?
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Mar 23 08:05:09 <MJR__>	people selling
Mar 23 08:05:12 <MJR__>	lol
Mar 23 08:05:20 <MJR__>	not really any crazy news
Mar 23 08:07:02 <Bowjob>	hwn i was new in btcland
Mar 23 08:07:06 <Bowjob>	i panick sold
Mar 23 08:07:08 <Bowjob>	like twice
Mar 23 08:07:14 <Bowjob>	lost 800 bucks in profits
Mar 23 08:07:23 <Bowjob>	i've since made it back, but i learned
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Mar 23 08:10:02 <wao>	:D
Mar 23 08:10:04 <wao>	no
Mar 23 08:10:05 <wao>	DO NOT SEEL
Mar 23 08:10:10 <wao>	even when it will go down.
Mar 23 08:10:17 <wao>	because once u can still profit
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Mar 23 08:11:58 <Bowjob>	"Whoever wants Avalon 3 should buy BTC now. ^^ Just saying"
Mar 23 08:12:08 <Bowjob>	what was wen btc was around 50s
Mar 23 08:12:52 <wao>	hm
Mar 23 08:13:03 <wao>	I think avalon's predicting fall price of bitcoin.
Mar 23 08:13:05 <wao>	for now
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Mar 23 08:15:04 <MJR__>	yeah
Mar 23 08:15:17 <MJR__>	instincts fuck you when trading
Mar 23 08:15:38 <MJR__>	you feel like selling when it drops and buying when it rises
Mar 23 08:15:56 <MJR__>	but that is a guaranteed losing strategy
Mar 23 08:16:16 <MJR__>	you'll always be buying high and selling low
Mar 23 08:16:31 <Bowjob>	do it the other way around, sell when it rises, and buy when it drops
Mar 23 08:16:38 <Bowjob>	i honestly still can't do that
Mar 23 08:16:39 <MJR__>	yep
Mar 23 08:16:45 <Bowjob>	so i'm going for the next best option
Mar 23 08:16:50 <MJR__>	I think you would see nice returns
Mar 23 08:16:54 <Bowjob>	ignore all the TA, just wait it out
Mar 23 08:16:58 <MJR__>	yeah
Mar 23 08:17:03 <MJR__>	I just ignore it
Mar 23 08:17:34 *	MJR__ put yourself in a 10 year mind frame 
Mar 23 08:17:42 <Bowjob>	i just held my position.. the fundamentals are ridiculously strong, it doesnt make sense for it go down really
Mar 23 08:17:50 <MJR__>	yes
Mar 23 08:17:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068142 = 3.4071 BTC [+]
Mar 23 08:17:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5136 @ 0.00068141 = 3.4997 BTC [-]
Mar 23 08:18:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51 @ 0.0006814 = 0.0348 BTC [-]
Mar 23 08:18:07 <MJR__>	at this point, that is how I approach this
Mar 23 08:18:54 <Bowjob>	im a survivor of.. 26-20 BTC crash, from 49-36, from 48-37, and now from 73-52
Mar 23 08:19:12 <MJR__>	yep
Mar 23 08:19:18 <Bowjob>	I've watched bears get bloodied, not a pleasant sight
Mar 23 08:19:29 <MJR__>	I just feel bad because I know the emotions people feel
Mar 23 08:19:56 <MJR__>	it is scary and your stomach clenches
Mar 23 08:20:09 <Bowjob>	I felt it too and gave way to my emotions, like i said. lost 800 dollars profit. when btc were 20 dollars each
Mar 23 08:20:24 <MJR__>	I highly recommend people read the hour between dog and wolf
Mar 23 08:20:25 <Bowjob>	i wisened up.. never again!
Mar 23 08:20:44 <Bowjob>	i managed to get those btc back from S.Dice and back
Mar 23 08:20:44 <MJR__>	it's about physical reactions to trading
Mar 23 08:20:45 <pgp>	what happened last night?  holy shit!
Mar 23 08:20:56 <MJR__>	crazy rides
Mar 23 08:21:08 <pgp>	another fork?
Mar 23 08:21:12 <MJR__>	no
Mar 23 08:21:14 <Bowjob>	nah
Mar 23 08:21:21 <MJR__>	just profit takers
Mar 23 08:21:22 <Bowjob>	big player cashed out
Mar 23 08:21:26 <MJR__>	yeah
Mar 23 08:21:34 <Bowjob>	the rest of the sheep followed
Mar 23 08:21:42 <Bowjob>	until they got gored by the bulls
Mar 23 08:21:46 <MJR__>	we were just discussing weak hands
Mar 23 08:22:09 <MJR__>	and the physiological reaction to dropping prices
Mar 23 08:22:11 <Bowjob>	so really, it should have been 73-maybe 69
Mar 23 08:22:22 <Bowjob>	then the new players jumped on the bandwagon
Mar 23 08:22:48 <MJR__>	wish there was a vxx for BTC
Mar 23 08:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.584 = 2.92 BTC [+]
Mar 23 08:23:03 <kakobrekla>	vxx?
Mar 23 08:23:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.585 = 6.435 BTC [+]
Mar 23 08:23:11 <MJR__>	volatility index
Mar 23 08:23:26 <MJR__>	it's a tradeable asset :)
Mar 23 08:23:32 <kakobrekla>	i know
Mar 23 08:23:39 <MJR__>	ah ok
Mar 23 08:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.585 = 5.265 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 08:24:07 <ThickAsThieves>	vxx report: btc is prone to moving violently up, then less violently down once in a while
Mar 23 08:24:35 <MJR__>	can I buy something that will gain in value the more volatile it is...
Mar 23 08:24:45 <ThickAsThieves>	bots
Mar 23 08:24:51 <MJR__>	yeah true
Mar 23 08:25:09 <MJR__>	does anyone here trade on mt gox?
Mar 23 08:25:17 <ThickAsThieves>	not i
Mar 23 08:25:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i used to use campbx for buying
Mar 23 08:25:35 <MJR__>	me neither but im just curious about something
Mar 23 08:25:37 <ThickAsThieves>	but they are horrible
Mar 23 08:25:41 <ThickAsThieves>	and i dont sell
Mar 23 08:25:44 <MJR__>	I like bitfloor
Mar 23 08:26:01 <ThickAsThieves>	probly done buying for the forseeable future too
Mar 23 08:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.599 BTC [+]
Mar 23 08:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.599 = 10.782 BTC [+]
Mar 23 08:26:08 <MJR__>	I was just buying and selling the same coins for liquidity rebates
Mar 23 08:26:12 <ThickAsThieves>	holy VTX
Mar 23 08:26:18 <ThickAsThieves>	i wish i didnt hate on that one
Mar 23 08:26:22 <MJR__>	lol
Mar 23 08:26:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i did buy like 7btc worth
Mar 23 08:26:42 <ThickAsThieves>	probly double that at this rate
Mar 23 08:26:46 <MJR__>	is it up or down?
Mar 23 08:26:54 <ThickAsThieves>	ipo was .39
Mar 23 08:26:58 <MJR__>	ah nice
Mar 23 08:27:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5991 BTC [+]
Mar 23 08:27:08 <ThickAsThieves>	like 2 days ago
Mar 23 08:27:17 <Bowjob>	yes, same here
Mar 23 08:27:17 <MJR__>	I was confused
Mar 23 08:27:32 <Bowjob>	VTX.. I didn't like the prospectus all that well..
Mar 23 08:27:36 <MJR__>	ipo means INITIAL public offering right?
Mar 23 08:27:40 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 23 08:27:46 <Bowjob>	But.. but.. people bought it anyway
Mar 23 08:27:49 <ThickAsThieves>	havelock investors will pay whatever they for what they want dammit
Mar 23 08:27:50 <MJR__>	I thought they already had shares trading
Mar 23 08:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.5998888 = 1.1998 BTC [+]
Mar 23 08:28:06 <Bowjob>	No, not VTX
Mar 23 08:28:17 <Bowjob>	I was suprised at VTX trading like this
Mar 23 08:28:21 <ThickAsThieves>	whatever they want*
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Mar 23 08:28:33 <MJR__>	someone was asking about why they kept the ipo shares separate
Mar 23 08:28:41 <Bowjob>	that means, havelock is valuing this company at about 5 million dollars
Mar 23 08:28:53 <Bowjob>	havelock investors
Mar 23 08:28:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i think they were separate because he wanted to regulate the price
Mar 23 08:29:01 <MJR__>	seems pretty fair if they do most business in Canada
Mar 23 08:29:05 <ThickAsThieves>	in CAD
Mar 23 08:29:10 <MJR__>	...
Mar 23 08:29:16 <MJR__>	what was separate?
Mar 23 08:29:19 <Bowjob>	I shoulda bought them on hindisght
Mar 23 08:29:24 <Bowjob>	One thing to note
Mar 23 08:29:26 <ThickAsThieves>	ipo value was in CAD not BTC
Mar 23 08:29:31 <Bowjob>	havelock shares have done extremely well
Mar 23 08:29:32 <MJR__>	the other shares where coming from where?
Mar 23 08:29:34 <Bowjob>	^^
Mar 23 08:29:46 <ThickAsThieves>	ALL shares came from IPO
Mar 23 08:29:53 <MJR__>	ah ok
Mar 23 08:30:00 <Bowjob>	the first clue for VTX
Mar 23 08:30:07 <Bowjob>	was the rate at which people bought them
Mar 23 08:30:07 <MJR__>	so he was avoiding people front running him
Mar 23 08:30:17 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah Bow, yer right
Mar 23 08:30:22 <ThickAsThieves>	thats why i biought some
Mar 23 08:30:26 <Bowjob>	i should have seen it coming
Mar 23 08:30:42 <Bowjob>	the demand was so high, thats why we see the price increasng
Mar 23 08:30:43 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 23 08:30:46 <MJR__>	they don't have a dividend right?
Mar 23 08:30:49 <Bowjob>	coulda flipped a few shares
Mar 23 08:30:56 <Bowjob>	yeah, i was wondering about dividends too
Mar 23 08:31:04 <Bowjob>	i didnt see any one the prospectus
Mar 23 08:31:08 <MJR__>	that I think is why I ignored it
Mar 23 08:31:20 <ThickAsThieves>	no divs unless they happen to pay duvs
Mar 23 08:31:24 <MJR__>	since im buy and hold right now
Mar 23 08:31:27 <ThickAsThieves>	is how they put it
Mar 23 08:31:35 <MJR__>	looking for revenue streams
Mar 23 08:31:59 <Bowjob>	the mining fund looks pretty good
Mar 23 08:32:04 <Bowjob>	but.. they ordered from BFL
Mar 23 08:32:07 <Bowjob>	:/
Mar 23 08:32:18 <ThickAsThieves>	what would you guys say is the best balance of safe and dividend yield asset?
Mar 23 08:32:47 <ThickAsThieves>	for holding 6+mos
Mar 23 08:33:30 <Bowjob>	you kinda missed it
Mar 23 08:33:33 <Bowjob>	called s.dice
Mar 23 08:34:43 <ThickAsThieves>	whatd i miss?
Mar 23 08:34:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i have a bunch
Mar 23 08:34:56 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 23 08:34:57 <Bowjob>	for the past 6 months, till very recently
Mar 23 08:34:58 <Bowjob>	ah
Mar 23 08:35:09 <Bowjob>	well, you are aware of the .75 dip
Mar 23 08:35:18 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah very, thats when i started
Mar 23 08:35:19 <Bowjob>	it was 0.0075, and now at 0.003xx
Mar 23 08:35:22 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 23 08:35:31 <Bowjob>	I bought at 0.0048 and 0.0037
Mar 23 08:35:35 <ThickAsThieves>	it worked out great for me though
Mar 23 08:35:39 <Bowjob>	sold at 0.0075
Mar 23 08:35:39 <ThickAsThieves>	because at the time
Mar 23 08:35:40 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 23 08:35:45 <Bowjob>	then it started downhil
Mar 23 08:35:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i had shares on all the exchanges
Mar 23 08:35:52 <Bowjob>	ah
Mar 23 08:35:59 <Bowjob>	i only went for havelock
Mar 23 08:36:00 <ThickAsThieves>	and i was awake when erik announced the .0044 tranche
Mar 23 08:36:06 <Bowjob>	oh
Mar 23 08:36:09 <Bowjob>	yah
Mar 23 08:36:14 <ThickAsThieves>	so i sold down all the markets to like .5 or so
Mar 23 08:36:24 <ThickAsThieves>	and re-upped at .0044
Mar 23 08:36:32 <Bowjob>	dice isnt doing well this month
Mar 23 08:36:35 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Mar 23 08:36:38 <ThickAsThieves>	good time to buy
Mar 23 08:36:56 <ThickAsThieves>	though i'm worried theres a flaw in their less than zero bet
Mar 23 08:37:09 <Bowjob>	whyd you say that
Mar 23 08:37:22 <ThickAsThieves>	like 3 or 4 winners this month
Mar 23 08:37:37 <Bowjob>	variance. shit like that happens
Mar 23 08:37:39 <Bowjob>	its nota  flaw
Mar 23 08:37:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.807 = 3.228 BTC [+]
Mar 23 08:37:48 <ThickAsThieves>	understood
Mar 23 08:37:55 <ThickAsThieves>	but you gotta check with edges at least
Mar 23 08:38:00 <Bowjob>	do it a million times, the house edge is 1.84%
Mar 23 08:38:16 <Bowjob>	better yet, do it  a billion times
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Mar 23 08:38:41 <Bowjob>	i mean, they've done like 65k bets on less than 1?
Mar 23 08:38:50 <Bowjob>	2-3 is unlikely, but normal
Mar 23 08:38:50 <ThickAsThieves>	dunno
Mar 23 08:39:00 <Bowjob>	theres 65 loses on 50%
Mar 23 08:39:06 <Bowjob>	thats more unlikely
Mar 23 08:39:12 <Bowjob>	65 losses in a row
Mar 23 08:39:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i only mention it from a shareholder perspective, not arguing the possibility
Mar 23 08:39:24 <ThickAsThieves>	as in, when this happens they need to be on their toes
Mar 23 08:39:34 <Bowjob>	doog said the way dice works, its impossible for them to cheat players
Mar 23 08:39:39 <Bowjob>	its a blockchain betting game
Mar 23 08:39:59 <Bowjob>	they can selectively place bets though, to cheat shareholders
Mar 23 08:40:03 <Bowjob>	but not.. players
Mar 23 08:40:25 <ThickAsThieves>	so youre saying no one could find a way to game sdice no matter what?
Mar 23 08:40:38 <Bowjob>	unless its erik or whoever else made it
Mar 23 08:40:43 <Bowjob>	then the games are legit
Mar 23 08:41:41 <ThickAsThieves>	how about miners colluding, or a weakness in the secret number, or someone figures out some electonic harmonic variance that affects it or whatever amazing thing mathy people can cook up?
Mar 23 08:42:06 <MJR__>	lol
Mar 23 08:42:25 <MJR__>	yeah. the guy who ran the numbers on odds is really smart math guy
Mar 23 08:42:28 <leotreasure>	what i want to know is are there hardware RNGs
Mar 23 08:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1364 @ 0.000692 = 0.9439 BTC [+]
Mar 23 08:42:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2236 @ 0.00069859 = 1.562 BTC [+]
Mar 23 08:42:45 <ThickAsThieves>	RNG is usually a weak point right?
Mar 23 08:42:53 <leotreasure>	yes
Mar 23 08:42:57 <MJR__>	it's based on blockchain...they don't have RNG I believe
Mar 23 08:42:58 <ThickAsThieves>	like very hard to be truly random
Mar 23 08:43:10 <ZedsterX>	quick question for the smart guys....if i wanted to buy a large amount (for me) of BTC between 2 and 3000 USD worth what do you guys suggest is the best way?
Mar 23 08:43:24 <ThickAsThieves>	not campbx
Mar 23 08:43:38 <MJR__>	or should I say the blockchain mining is the RNG
Mar 23 08:43:48 <zerokwel>	gox,bitstamp etc
Mar 23 08:43:49 <MJR__>	bitfloor if you're in the US
Mar 23 08:43:56 <leotreasure>	yes a very elaborate rng
Mar 23 08:43:56 <ZedsterX>	euro
Mar 23 08:44:01 <ThickAsThieves>	blockchain mining could be made non-random probly
Mar 23 08:44:01 <ZedsterX>	pean
Mar 23 08:44:03 <zerokwel>	bitstamp
Mar 23 08:44:21 <MJR__>	yeah probably best bet is bitstamp
Mar 23 08:44:28 <ZedsterX>	oki thats what i use normally just wasn't sure if that was the best bet
Mar 23 08:44:36 <zerokwel>	cheap as hell for euro
Mar 23 08:44:39 <MJR__>	good eurbtc volume
Mar 23 08:44:43 <ZedsterX>	thanks guys
Mar 23 08:44:44 <ThickAsThieves>	mp mentioned someone for euro the other day
Mar 23 08:44:47 <ThickAsThieves>	i forget what
Mar 23 08:44:51 <ThickAsThieves>	had a generic name
Mar 23 08:44:59 <ThickAsThieves>	like bitcoinstore or such
Mar 23 08:45:16 <ZedsterX>	yeah i think i caught that too thieves
Mar 23 08:45:16 <MJR__>	anyway, I think sdice is very much undervalued
Mar 23 08:45:42 <zerokwel>	me 2 was considering grabbing some shares
Mar 23 08:45:56 <ThickAsThieves>	it might still dip lower
Mar 23 08:46:18 <ThickAsThieves>	its unlikely there will be profits this month
Mar 23 08:46:30 <ThickAsThieves>	and likely that many holders wont realize this til the 1st
Mar 23 08:46:46 <ThickAsThieves>	when they will be quite sad
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Mar 23 08:50:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 23 08:50:31 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 23 08:50:32 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227592 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 215 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 23 hours, 46 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6606429.51042 | Estimated Percent Change: 36.28115
Mar 23 08:50:33 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227592 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 215 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 23 hours, 46 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6606429.51042 | Estimated Percent Change: 36.28115
Mar 23 08:50:33 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 23 08:50:36 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 23 08:51:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 23 08:51:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.01000, Best ask: 65.13819, Bid-ask spread: 0.12819, Last trade: 65.00000, 24 hour volume: 144045.25943015, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.39000, 24 hour vwap: 64.02949
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Mar 23 08:55:31 <MJR__>	just finished reading about helveticoin
Mar 23 08:56:05 <MJR__>	if they are legit, we could see PETAhashes by fall
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Mar 23 08:58:18 <bitesak>	helveticoin?
Mar 23 08:58:37 <bitesak>	souds swiss
Mar 23 08:59:54 <Uglux>	is it operated by thomas van ripper? ^^
Mar 23 09:00:45 <Bowjob>	so perhaps yifu is gearing up for it
Mar 23 09:00:54 <Bowjob>	I'll be in line for petahash asic
Mar 23 09:00:55 <Bowjob>	:)
Mar 23 09:06:03 <MJR__>	don't think one ASIC will do that much
Mar 23 09:06:13 <MJR__>	I meant the network hash rate
Mar 23 09:06:58 <MJR__>	they are Swiss
Mar 23 09:08:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00439 BTC [+]
Mar 23 09:08:59 <Bowjob>	i like swiss chocolate
Mar 23 09:09:12 <Bowjob>	actually my favourite brand is lindt
Mar 23 09:09:22 <Bowjob>	lindt with pistachios = godtier
Mar 23 09:16:06 <MJR__>	nice
Mar 23 09:16:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 23 09:16:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.30000, Best ask: 64.41000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 64.30000, 24 hour volume: 144997.53637808, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.39000, 24 hour vwap: 64.01518
Mar 23 09:18:03 <Uglux>	boom
Mar 23 09:22:11 <Bowjob>	gox says 67
Mar 23 09:22:13 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 09:22:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 66.67160, Best ask: 67.44400, Bid-ask spread: 0.77240, Last trade: 67.44400, 24 hour volume: 150117.85093422, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 73.39000, 24 hour vwap: 64.13442
Mar 23 09:22:15 <Bowjob>	oh
Mar 23 09:22:18 <Bowjob>	thgere you go
Mar 23 09:27:24 <MJR__>	52 to 73
Mar 23 09:27:27 <MJR__>	lol
Mar 23 09:27:34 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin is stable now.
Mar 23 09:27:44 <kakobrekla>	pirate paid yesterday.
Mar 23 09:28:24 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.msg1662666#msg1662666
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Mar 23 09:31:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2628 @ 0.00069859 = 1.8359 BTC [+]
Mar 23 09:31:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15772 @ 0.0007007 = 11.0514 BTC [+]
Mar 23 09:35:14 <jurov>	ic, someone took vagostabyl :D
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Mar 23 09:41:17 <TomServo>	Damn...I put in a drunken order at 52.24 at some point last night.  so close!
Mar 23 09:42:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.0007007 = 6.8318 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 09:54:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33003 = 0.6601 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 09:56:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33002 = 0.66 BTC [-]
Mar 23 09:57:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @ 2.5 = 5 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 10:03:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15999 BTC [+]
Mar 23 10:12:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 11 @ 0.000678 = 0.0075 BTC [-]
Mar 23 10:22:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 76 @ 0.00402 = 0.3055 BTC [-]
Mar 23 10:22:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 21 @ 0.00402 = 0.0844 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 10:23:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.807 BTC [+]
Mar 23 10:26:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00068787 = 1.7197 BTC [-]
Mar 23 10:26:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.0006824 = 2.6614 BTC [-]
Mar 23 10:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5840001 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 10:29:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.598 BTC [+]
Mar 23 10:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.598 BTC [+]
Mar 23 10:33:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.807 BTC [+]
Mar 23 10:33:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.807 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 10:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068241 = 3.4121 BTC [+]
Mar 23 10:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00068241 = 0.8871 BTC [+]
Mar 23 10:47:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.0006824 = 1.979 BTC [-]
Mar 23 10:47:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00068221 = 3.4793 BTC [-]
Mar 23 10:48:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8077 BTC [+]
Mar 23 10:48:34 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Mar 23 10:48:35 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.598 BTC [+]
Mar 23 10:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 11:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 11:10:03 <Josh_Rossi>	;;ident
Mar 23 11:10:03 <gribble>	You are not identified.
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Mar 23 11:10:17 <mjr_>	;;ident
Mar 23 11:10:17 <gribble>	You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
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Mar 23 11:11:12 <Diablo-D3>	ha ha
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Mar 23 11:11:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00402 BTC [-]
Mar 23 11:11:29 <Diablo-D3>	gamma bitcoin fund
Mar 23 11:11:30 <mjr_>	;;ident
Mar 23 11:11:31 <gribble>	You are not identified.
Mar 23 11:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0044444 = 0.4444 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 11:27:41 <error4733>	mjr you shoukd stop try stupid challenge
Mar 23 11:27:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00402 = 0.008 BTC [-]
Mar 23 11:27:46 <error4733>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m5IzMuVM1o&list=UU7vzAZjh_HRRuvFzbzeTkjg&index=1
Mar 23 11:29:07 <mjr_>	upgraded Mirc
Mar 23 11:29:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 38 @ 0.004099 = 0.1558 BTC [+]
Mar 23 11:29:20 <mjr_>	trying to reinitialize the script that auto-challenges
Mar 23 11:29:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [+]
Mar 23 11:31:04 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 23 11:31:08 <mjr_>	who is that kid?
Mar 23 11:31:31 <mjr_>	thats just great...of all the people who could have had my name
Mar 23 11:31:35 <mjr_>	:(
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Mar 23 11:36:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5136 @ 0.00070068 = 3.5987 BTC [+]
Mar 23 11:36:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4268 @ 0.00070069 = 2.9905 BTC [+]
Mar 23 11:37:53 <KRS1>	maybe he knows this kid http://www.2atoms.com/comedy/worstoftheweb/blount.htm
Mar 23 11:39:43 <kakobrekla>	lol bitinstant > The shitty thing is that the last time I sent Shrem an e-mail it bounced. And I got the message: Could wait no longer, mailbox full.
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Mar 23 11:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.51 = 3.06 BTC [-]
Mar 23 11:51:49 <smickles>	is that cads guy still around
Mar 23 11:52:42 <smickles>	it's like he just came out of nowhere asking for mpex to be made, and the chan was like "/me points to mpex"
Mar 23 11:53:31 <FabianB>	indeed, just finished backlog
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Mar 23 11:58:53 <jurov>	https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5427985 some little peeks into coinbase innards
Mar 23 11:59:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.004639 = 0.0649 BTC [+]
Mar 23 12:00:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000677 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
Mar 23 12:01:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.0014 = 0.0028 BTC [-]
Mar 23 12:02:20 <kakobrekla>	http://www.mongodb.org/about/production-deployments/
Mar 23 12:02:24 <kakobrekla>		Coinbase uses MongoDB for their primary datastore for their web app, api requests, etc. Coinbase is a decentralized, digital currency that is changing the world of payments.
Mar 23 12:02:34 <kakobrekla>	Coinbase is Bitcoin?
Mar 23 12:02:36 <kakobrekla>	nice
Mar 23 12:05:22 <kakobrekla>	they also use macs
Mar 23 12:05:35 <kakobrekla>	dont trust em with a coin.
Mar 23 12:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5840001 BTC [-]
Mar 23 12:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 29 @ 0.584 = 16.936 BTC [-]
Mar 23 12:10:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5979999 BTC [+]
Mar 23 12:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.598 = 13.754 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 12:13:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 23 12:13:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 12:13:13 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 23 12:13:19 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
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Mar 23 12:24:15 <tiberiusiv>	bitinstant has like a 25% chance your transfer fails
Mar 23 12:24:25 <tiberiusiv>	and it takes them up to 5 days to "push the coins through"
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Mar 23 12:30:49 <mod6>	(02:10) < tiberiusiv> zyphus you should exit (02:10) < tiberiusiv> single digits are not that far
Mar 23 12:30:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.005 BTC [-]
Mar 23 12:31:01 <mod6>	trolled these d00dz hard lastnight 'eh
Mar 23 12:31:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [-]
Mar 23 12:31:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 8 @ 0.00311 = 0.0249 BTC [-]
Mar 23 12:32:04 <mod6>	i guess those guys were losing their minds
Mar 23 12:33:14 <tiberiusiv>	mod6: lol
Mar 23 12:33:28 <tiberiusiv>	one of them almost sold me their coins for 25
Mar 23 12:33:59 <mod6>	haha nice
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Mar 23 12:49:08 <smickles>	"electronic harmonic variance" sounds like shit spewed from a powerband salesman
Mar 23 12:50:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Mar 23 12:50:23 <gribble>	Time since last block: 51 minutes and 39 seconds
Mar 23 12:50:23 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 23 12:50:28 <ThickAsThieves>	wtf
Mar 23 12:50:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 23 12:50:49 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227618 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 189 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 21 hours, 17 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6606350.12053 | Estimated Percent Change: 36.27952
Mar 23 12:50:59 <smickles>	another fork?
Mar 23 12:51:30 <smickles>	no...
Mar 23 12:51:49 <mod6>	i don't see any orphand blocks yet.. http://blockchain.info/blocks
Mar 23 12:51:57 <smickles>	maybe their client is just borkd
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Mar 23 12:52:13 <mod6>	my client is so far behind....
Mar 23 12:52:19 <ThickAsThieves>	i only check because i have old tx waiting
Mar 23 12:52:24 <mod6>	it's on the .7 though
Mar 23 12:52:26 <ThickAsThieves>	checked*
Mar 23 12:52:30 <smickles>	ofc, i havn't sync'd in about 16 hours
Mar 23 12:52:33 <smickles>	@.@
Mar 23 12:52:40 <mod6>	i hate starting it up cause it send my HD to 0 response time damn near
Mar 23 12:52:53 <mod6>	mine is 70 days behind still
Mar 23 12:53:12 <smickles>	it's most likely blockchain.info's client getting stuck
Mar 23 12:53:19 <smickles>	bing
Mar 23 12:53:24 <smickles>	;;tslb
Mar 23 12:53:27 <gribble>	Time since last block: 33 seconds
Mar 23 12:53:33 <mod6>	sweet
Mar 23 12:53:38 <smickles>	69k btc sent
Mar 23 12:53:44 <smickles>	er, 60
Mar 23 12:53:49 <smickles>	ish
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Mar 23 12:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.5998888 = 10.798 BTC [+]
Mar 23 13:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.51 = 3.57 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 13:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.6 = 7.8 BTC [+]
Mar 23 13:02:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.51 = 2.04 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 13:15:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 62 @ 0.004099 = 0.2541 BTC [+]
Mar 23 13:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4855 = 1.4565 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:21:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 67 @ 0.00361 = 0.2419 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.485 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:22:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.485 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 13:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.48000002 = 1.92 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:23:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 23 13:23:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.10000, Best ask: 65.41901, Bid-ask spread: 0.31901, Last trade: 65.10000, 24 hour volume: 155857.54158041, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 72.86999, 24 hour vwap: 63.91405
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Mar 23 13:23:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 70
Mar 23 13:23:59 <gribble>	There are currently 9000.1244 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 618708.528579 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Mar 23 13:24:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 13:24:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 60
Mar 23 13:24:18 <gribble>	There are currently 10059.132 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.0 USD, worth 624598.081772 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.2737 seconds
Mar 23 13:29:32 <mod6>	$vwap ^OIX
Mar 23 13:29:33 <mpexbot>	mod6: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 67.50931133 high: 70.0111051 low: 51.26011131 volume: 14605 btc: 3123.57547556 30 day: no data
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Mar 23 13:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 23 13:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 13:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.65 = 12.35 BTC [+]
Mar 23 13:33:20 <ThickAsThieves>	yep i was wrong about vtx
Mar 23 13:33:23 <mod6>	this might be one of the more idiot posts in a while
Mar 23 13:33:24 <mod6>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156960
Mar 23 13:33:58 <mod6>	We have a world to conquer out there, and we don't want to end up like Unix.
Mar 23 13:33:59 <ThickAsThieves>	wall of text almost killed me
Mar 23 13:34:05 <mod6>	WRONG you want to end up exactly like unix
Mar 23 13:34:43 <mod6>	the path of least resistance is where the river will follow and flow through, to meet his own anaology
Mar 23 13:34:59 <Rothgar>	!last MPEX S.DICE
Mar 23 13:34:59 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0044444 BTC [+]
Mar 23 13:35:13 <mod6>	and with UNIX, it's tried and true, open and tested. and loved by the best compsci people in the world for a /reason/
Mar 23 13:35:53 <mod6>	mircea_popescu & MPOE-PR are right, the btctalk people are turbo-idiots
Mar 23 13:36:13 <mod6>	</rant?
Mar 23 13:36:28 <mod6>	s/\?/\>/
Mar 23 13:36:46 <mod6>	=)
Mar 23 13:37:15 <mod6>	well, i guess he's only had 3 posts.
Mar 23 13:37:37 <mod6>	still, what a toolbox
Mar 23 13:38:15 <mod6>	and I think since gox is all fuxd all the time with its price signals
Mar 23 13:38:25 <mod6>	the OIX is simply getting to be a better ave
Mar 23 13:40:15 <mod6>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg30zig2-hourztgSzbgBza1gTMAzm1g30za2gTMAzm2g200zi1gMACDzi2gWilliamRzi3gCVolatilityzv
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Mar 23 13:42:03 <ThickAsThieves>	the william % pattern on that chart is interesting
Mar 23 13:42:14 <mod6>	i dunno, it seems pretty accurate, i guess because the price signals from gox fuel which strikes are most active..
Mar 23 13:42:17 <ThickAsThieves>	the dips look the same
Mar 23 13:42:46 <mod6>	but you can trade on MPEx evne through the heaviest and most coordinated DDoS attacks and it's solid
Mar 23 13:43:01 <ThickAsThieves>	sadly people use gox as indicator
Mar 23 13:43:11 <ThickAsThieves>	have to choose something
Mar 23 13:43:13 <mod6>	the fact we hang on gox data so much needs to change imho
Mar 23 13:43:20 <mod6>	ThickAsThieves: exactly
Mar 23 13:43:34 <mod6>	it would be awesome if it was "just one signal for price"
Mar 23 13:43:40 <mod6>	but its /the/ signal for price
Mar 23 13:43:45 <ThickAsThieves>	i really believe that when their suggested price gets stuck, it pulls down the whole market
Mar 23 13:44:13 <ThickAsThieves>	it gets stuck whenever there's a dip
Mar 23 13:44:18 <mod6>	everyone else wants to sell their BTC to tiberiusiv for $25 if there is too low of vol and the price collapses
Mar 23 13:44:25 <ThickAsThieves>	coincidence or instigatation?
Mar 23 13:44:51 <mod6>	i don't think anyone should choose anything per-se
Mar 23 13:44:53 <ThickAsThieves>	instigation*
Mar 23 13:45:02 <mod6>	i mean, think of how they do gas-station pricing on price per gallon?
Mar 23 13:45:06 <tiberiusiv>	gox market share is already declining
Mar 23 13:45:20 <ThickAsThieves>	but they arent used any less as a price
Mar 23 13:45:40 <tiberiusiv>	they will be
Mar 23 13:45:42 <mod6>	3 stations, three corners of the intersection.
Mar 23 13:45:43 <tiberiusiv>	theres nothing wrong with the gox price
Mar 23 13:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4792 = 1.4376 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:46:07 <tiberiusiv>	its the within the same range as all the other exchanges
Mar 23 13:46:15 <tiberiusiv>	whats the difference whose price you use? gox at the moment simply is the most liquid
Mar 23 13:46:38 <tiberiusiv>	mod6: gasoline is one of the most competitive markets around
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Mar 23 13:46:56 <ThickAsThieves>	but arent 'all of the other sxchanges" basing decsisions on gox?
Mar 23 13:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.47915 = 0.9583 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:47:02 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 23 13:47:09 <tiberiusiv>	of course not thickasthieves
Mar 23 13:47:16 <mod6>	but...
Mar 23 13:47:26 <tiberiusiv>	gox does NOT set bitcoin prices for everyone
Mar 23 13:47:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont use many exchanges so i cant say
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Mar 23 13:47:31 <ThickAsThieves>	but the ones i use
Mar 23 13:47:33 <tiberiusiv>	they simply have the most participants
Mar 23 13:47:34 <ThickAsThieves>	all trail gox
Mar 23 13:47:46 <tiberiusiv>	becuase their liquidity is lower
Mar 23 13:47:54 <tiberiusiv>	they dont trail gox, they just have less activity
Mar 23 13:47:57 <tiberiusiv>	so it seems like it
Mar 23 13:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.479101 = 3.8328 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:48:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i see it on campbx all the time
Mar 23 13:48:11 <ThickAsThieves>	price drops 5
Mar 23 13:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070068 = 0.9109 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00070069 = 3.5035 BTC [+]
Mar 23 13:48:20 <ThickAsThieves>	then 30secs later it does on campbx
Mar 23 13:48:28 <ThickAsThieves>	lotsa bots out there
Mar 23 13:48:37 <ThickAsThieves>	using goxprice
Mar 23 13:48:47 <mod6>	there needs to be a few more exchanges with just as much or more liquidity and volume which don't race eachother to "a bottom" but just find a happy stable price amongst themselfs
Mar 23 13:48:53 <mod6>	like gas station pricing
Mar 23 13:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4791005 = 1.9164 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:49:13 <mod6>	you know what I mean?
Mar 23 13:49:13 <tiberiusiv>	they arent racing each other to a bottom
Mar 23 13:49:19 <tiberiusiv>	you are an idiot
Mar 23 13:49:24 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 23 13:49:28 <tiberiusiv>	the exchanges do not sell a product
Mar 23 13:49:33 <ThickAsThieves>	eeediot!
Mar 23 13:49:34 <tiberiusiv>	gas stations sell a product
Mar 23 13:50:01 <tiberiusiv>	exchanges are simply forums for people to gather and through the auction style set prices
Mar 23 13:50:05 <mod6>	;;gpg info tiberiusiv
Mar 23 13:50:05 <gribble>	No such user registered.
Mar 23 13:50:11 <mod6>	FUCK OF DICKWAD
Mar 23 13:50:19 <mod6>	*OFF too :)
Mar 23 13:50:31 <tiberiusiv>	you have 0 clue what you are talking about mod6 so be quiet :)
Mar 23 13:51:19 *	mod6 looks for EB
Mar 23 13:51:23 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: campbx is extremely *illiquid*, that is why it seems it lags mtgox
Mar 23 13:51:35 <tiberiusiv>	there isnt enough participants on campbx
Mar 23 13:51:39 <ThickAsThieves>	but you dont think their bots influence price based on gox?
Mar 23 13:51:45 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 23 13:51:54 <tiberiusiv>	its not based on gox
Mar 23 13:51:59 <tiberiusiv>	thats what the market is doing
Mar 23 13:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.478999 = 2.395 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:52:05 <tiberiusiv>	gox has nothing to do with it
Mar 23 13:52:13 <mod6>	stfu
Mar 23 13:52:26 <tiberiusiv>	participants needed US dollars for whatever reason so they sold bitcoins
Mar 23 13:52:31 <ThickAsThieves>	so the whole market coincidently drops $5 when gox does, with no relation?
Mar 23 13:52:36 <tiberiusiv>	its simple as that, and there were no willing buyers to pickup that size
Mar 23 13:52:50 <tiberiusiv>	so the price declines until buyers are willing to eat up the size offered
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Mar 23 13:53:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.468999 = 4.69 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:53:07 <ThickAsThieves>	even then, buyers are influenced by gox
Mar 23 13:53:11 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: the WHOLE market is 1 place.
Mar 23 13:53:26 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Mar 23 13:53:33 <mod6>	you fucking dipshit
Mar 23 13:53:37 <ThickAsThieves>	so if someone sells 10000 coins on gox
Mar 23 13:53:38 <tiberiusiv>	if oil drops in the US
Mar 23 13:53:39 <mod6>	thats what i've been trying to say
Mar 23 13:53:40 <tiberiusiv>	it drops worldwide
Mar 23 13:53:45 <mod6>	STFU
Mar 23 13:53:49 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 23 13:53:51 <mod6>	what in the world are you doing her
Mar 23 13:53:52 <tiberiusiv>	mod6: mtgox is not the whole market
Mar 23 13:53:52 <mod6>	*here
Mar 23 13:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:54:07 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm getting trolled or what?
Mar 23 13:54:09 <splnkr>	the market is fragmented. that's the issue.
Mar 23 13:54:11 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 23 13:54:12 <mod6>	yes
Mar 23 13:54:14 <tiberiusiv>	quit thinking exchanges are seperate markets
Mar 23 13:54:14 <gribble>	There are currently 37048263 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6222641.70973 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0152 seconds
Mar 23 13:54:16 <mod6>	by eskimobob
Mar 23 13:54:18 <tiberiusiv>	they arent
Mar 23 13:54:22 <tiberiusiv>	they are the SAME market
Mar 23 13:54:28 <tiberiusiv>	can you comprehend that concept?
Mar 23 13:54:31 <splnkr>	mt gox is the biggest so it gets the attention
Mar 23 13:54:32 <ThickAsThieves>	wait tiberius is eskimobob?
Mar 23 13:54:50 <tiberiusiv>	i dont even know who that is
Mar 23 13:54:51 <splnkr>	without a liquid means of exchanging non-BTC funds among exchanges, i don't see how they're one market
Mar 23 13:54:54 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: THey are the same market but there is friction in the links.  Very similar to the natural gas market
Mar 23 13:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43000001 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:55:25 <Bugpowder>	Europe will pay much more than US if russia turns off the taps, but the effects are still felt globally
Mar 23 13:55:31 <tiberiusiv>	there is 1 BTC market with many venues where to meet buyers or sellers
Mar 23 13:55:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i think its absurd to say that gox doesnt have influence on MANY fronts that influence price
Mar 23 13:55:46 <tiberiusiv>	gox itself is just the most liquid of those venues
Mar 23 13:55:51 <tiberiusiv>	thereby the most accurate
Mar 23 13:55:54 <splnkr>	tiberiusiv: this is a semantic argument
Mar 23 13:55:54 <Bugpowder>	the gox market definitely sets the price
Mar 23 13:55:55 <mod6>	NO
Mar 23 13:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:56:07 <splnkr>	my understanding of "market" is a place where buyers and sellers can exchange
Mar 23 13:56:15 <Bugpowder>	plot the prices of various exchanges vs. gox
Mar 23 13:56:17 <splnkr>	not just a specific type of asset
Mar 23 13:56:23 <Bugpowder>	gox leads all moves
Mar 23 13:56:30 <tiberiusiv>	becuase its the most liquid
Mar 23 13:56:34 <tiberiusiv>	from having the most participants
Mar 23 13:56:38 <Bugpowder>	yes
Mar 23 13:56:46 <Bugpowder>	It has the most volume by far
Mar 23 13:56:51 <tiberiusiv>	the others only seem like that lag, because of lack of activity
Mar 23 13:56:57 <Bugpowder>	they DO lag
Mar 23 13:56:58 <tiberiusiv>	they*
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Mar 23 13:57:00 <ThickAsThieves>	they lead thru buyer using it as spot, thru bots using it, thru asset exchanges using, thru chart reports using it
Mar 23 13:57:02 <mod6>	and how is that fucking different than what i was trying to say before you called me an idiot you faggot
Mar 23 13:57:14 <tiberiusiv>	mod6: you are an idiot.
Mar 23 13:57:18 <tiberiusiv>	you thought mtgox is a gas station
Mar 23 13:57:26 <tiberiusiv>	they dont sell a product.
Mar 23 13:57:29 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Mar 23 13:57:31 <mod6>	im using it as a simple example dickweed
Mar 23 13:57:41 <tiberiusiv>	its an incorrect example
Mar 23 13:57:45 <mod6>	i expected someone as smart as yourself to know the differnce
Mar 23 13:57:48 <Bugpowder>	gox users do not pay attention to the price on any other exchange
Mar 23 13:57:49 <ThickAsThieves>	can i get diesel with bitcoin?
Mar 23 13:57:55 <tiberiusiv>	you didnt know the difference between the 2
Mar 23 13:57:56 <Bugpowder>	all other exchages pay attention to the gox price
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Mar 23 13:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42000001 BTC [-]
Mar 23 13:58:07 <mod6>	GRRRRRR
Mar 23 13:58:08 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: bots arbitrage all the exchanges
Mar 23 13:58:09 <Bugpowder>	my local bitcoins sale price is based on gox.
Mar 23 13:58:11 <tiberiusiv>	seeking the best bids/asks
Mar 23 13:58:15 <mod6>	you make me almost want to rage quit this shit
Mar 23 13:58:21 <tiberiusiv>	therefore its ONE market
Mar 23 13:58:25 <tiberiusiv>	mod6 stfu.
Mar 23 13:58:28 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: too much transfer friction
Mar 23 13:58:30 <tiberiusiv>	retarded gas station analogy
Mar 23 13:58:30 <mod6>	NO YOU STFU
Mar 23 13:58:34 <ThickAsThieves>	relax mod6
Mar 23 13:58:36 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: yes at the moment
Mar 23 13:58:37 <ThickAsThieves>	just ignir ehim
Mar 23 13:58:42 <ThickAsThieves>	ignore*
Mar 23 13:58:42 <Bugpowder>	this point seems fairly academic though
Mar 23 13:58:44 <tiberiusiv>	yea mtgox is a gas station
Mar 23 13:58:50 <tiberiusiv>	on a street corner driving prices down
Mar 23 13:58:53 <tiberiusiv>	lmao
Mar 23 13:59:03 <tiberiusiv>	fucking child
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Mar 23 13:59:07 <Bugpowder>	gox is more like the CME
Mar 23 13:59:17 <tiberiusiv>	competing exchanges only drive down trading fees
Mar 23 13:59:22 <tiberiusiv>	not BTC price
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Mar 23 13:59:33 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 23 13:59:36 <ThickAsThieves>	anyway
Mar 23 13:59:37 <Bugpowder>	and there are other exchanges that trade pigs and steers and frozen concentrate OJ futures.  But CME dominates them
Mar 23 14:00:12 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 23 14:00:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.25112, Best ask: 63.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.72887, Last trade: 63.97999, 24 hour volume: 159365.08473773, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 72.86999, 24 hour vwap: 63.87592
Mar 23 14:00:22 <Bugpowder>	still too early to buy calls
Mar 23 14:00:24 <ThickAsThieves>	like i said when Gox data freezes, like their socket, or more importantly, their suggested price in the Buybox, it effectively changes the price to that until it stops
Mar 23 14:00:48 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: I disagree.  There price just becomes unknown.
Mar 23 14:00:58 <ThickAsThieves>	but when you log in to gox
Mar 23 14:01:05 <ThickAsThieves>	it doesnt indicate any problem
Mar 23 14:01:10 <Bugpowder>	traders with enough capital to move the market understand what is happening
Mar 23 14:01:18 <ThickAsThieves>	it just gets stuck at suggesting you pay 66 for 5 minutes
Mar 23 14:01:24 <Bugpowder>	maybe joe reddit with his 5 bitcoins gets confused
Mar 23 14:01:31 <Bugpowder>	but Bugpowder knows
Mar 23 14:01:37 <ThickAsThieves>	there are a lot of those
Mar 23 14:01:55 <Bugpowder>	yes and they whine alot too
Mar 23 14:02:08 <tiberiusiv>	thats not the suggested price in the buy box
Mar 23 14:02:11 <tiberiusiv>	thats the last price.
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Mar 23 14:02:18 <Bugpowder>	their post volume vs BTC volume is all out of whack
Mar 23 14:02:19 <tiberiusiv>	if it freezes or not means nothing
Mar 23 14:02:34 <tiberiusiv>	last price means NOTHING.
Mar 23 14:02:37 <tiberiusiv>	its the past.
Mar 23 14:02:42 <tiberiusiv>	the 2 prices most important are BIDS and ASKS
Mar 23 14:02:49 <tiberiusiv>	and the SIZEs
Mar 23 14:03:00 <Bugpowder>	yeah but the bid and ask are stale under high trading volume
Mar 23 14:03:02 <ThickAsThieves>	SR buyers, people who just buy when wthey get their deposits, people cashing out
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Mar 23 14:03:09 <ThickAsThieves>	none pay much mind to the orderbooks
Mar 23 14:03:16 <Bugpowder>	sometimes they lag by 10 minutes
Mar 23 14:03:23 <ThickAsThieves>	gox buybox says, pay this price and you get your coins
Mar 23 14:03:24 <tiberiusiv>	if you are cashing out you are paying attention to BIDS
Mar 23 14:03:27 <tiberiusiv>	not to LAST price
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Mar 23 14:03:33 <tiberiusiv>	no it doesnt
Mar 23 14:03:33 <Bugpowder>	so just place your limit orders where you what to buy or sell and hope fulr the best
Mar 23 14:03:33 <chmod755>	;;seen bulls
Mar 23 14:03:34 <gribble>	I have not seen bulls.
Mar 23 14:03:37 <chmod755>	omg
Mar 23 14:03:39 <tiberiusiv>	it simply says what the last sale was
Mar 23 14:03:42 <chmod755>	;;seen bears
Mar 23 14:03:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 57 @ 0.004159 = 0.2371 BTC [+]
Mar 23 14:03:42 <gribble>	I have not seen bears.
Mar 23 14:03:45 <ThickAsThieves>	it doesnt say it literally, but effectively
Mar 23 14:03:46 <chmod755>	OMG
Mar 23 14:03:50 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves go read a book.
Mar 23 14:04:02 <tiberiusiv>	a seller looks for the bid, and a buyer looks for the ask
Mar 23 14:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]
Mar 23 14:04:08 <Bugpowder>	Gox website price is horribly inaccurate.
Mar 23 14:04:13 <tiberiusiv>	last price is just data on the past
Mar 23 14:04:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i know what fucking last price is
Mar 23 14:04:25 <tiberiusiv>	gox website could be a blank page and it would make 0 difference
Mar 23 14:04:30 <Bugpowder>	under high load.
Mar 23 14:04:32 <ThickAsThieves>	but they PUT it in the bud box for you
Mar 23 14:04:37 <ThickAsThieves>	bidb box
Mar 23 14:04:45 <smickles>	oh you guys and your semantical differences
Mar 23 14:04:47 <ThickAsThieves>	therefore
Mar 23 14:04:48 <smickles>	lol
Mar 23 14:04:50 <ThickAsThieves>	its suggested
Mar 23 14:04:56 <smickles>	market != market
Mar 23 14:05:14 <smickles>	ambiguity fueling rage :D
Mar 23 14:05:32 <ThickAsThieves>	and you really want to underestimate the population's neglect of orderbooks when buying bitcoin?
Mar 23 14:05:40 <ThickAsThieves>	these people arent day traders
Mar 23 14:05:48 <Bugpowder>	I'm just annoyed that I had a 100BTC buy order at 52.139  that didn't quite get hit on the dip
Mar 23 14:05:49 <tiberiusiv>	they cant neglect it.
Mar 23 14:06:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 23 14:06:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.00001, Best ask: 63.12648, Bid-ask spread: 0.12647, Last trade: 63.00001, 24 hour volume: 159630.25515694, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 72.86999, 24 hour vwap: 63.87384
Mar 23 14:06:03 <tiberiusiv>	when you buy BTC you can only buy what is offered at X price
Mar 23 14:06:08 <tiberiusiv>	it doesnt mean jackshit what the last price was
Mar 23 14:06:09 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: people that ignore it are n00bs that don't move the market
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Mar 23 14:06:19 <tiberiusiv>	you cant ignore it, its impossible
Mar 23 14:06:31 <chmod755>	erryone trades on gox - chmod doesnt - is getting rich faster
Mar 23 14:06:35 <tiberiusiv>	if i want to buy 10k BTC right now, i cant get it at the LAST porice
Mar 23 14:06:40 <Bugpowder>	What moves the market are people trading 100-10000 BTC.  All of them know the game... At least after the first time they get goxraped.
Mar 23 14:06:42 <tiberiusiv>	i have to buy it at whats being offered
Mar 23 14:06:53 <ThickAsThieves>	hard to say on one day that Cyprus or other good news causes btc to go up, yet the market isnt easily influenced on bid price
Mar 23 14:06:56 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves you are clueless to markets.
Mar 23 14:07:16 <tiberiusiv>	news tends to lag price
Mar 23 14:07:41 <tiberiusiv>	BTC was already in an uptrend long before any cyprus news
Mar 23 14:07:47 <smickles>	my bot used the mtgox order book to a given depth to determin spot
Mar 23 14:07:58 <chmod755>	tiberiusiv, yes
Mar 23 14:08:05 <ThickAsThieves>	smickles, how dare you!
Mar 23 14:08:07 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 23 14:08:13 <tiberiusiv>	2012 had huge positive btc news, yet the price was still LOWER then 2011.
Mar 23 14:08:33 <tiberiusiv>	by the time something is news, its already OLD
Mar 23 14:08:47 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: not always
Mar 23 14:08:48 <smickles>	also, i feel most -otc trades go something like "i'll sell 1 btc", "at what rate?", "let me check gox, ;;ticker"
Mar 23 14:08:50 <ThickAsThieves>	so you think all this uptake to the current price is mostly big players, and not amatuer speculators?
Mar 23 14:09:00 <smickles>	so in both those senses, gox sets the price
Mar 23 14:09:05 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: almost always other then unexpected events
Mar 23 14:09:06 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: the current price is mostly big speculators
Mar 23 14:09:16 <smickles>	not the company, mind you, the users
Mar 23 14:09:21 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: notice how no one wanted to trade their house for BTC at $2, but now at 70 everyone wants BTC?
Mar 23 14:09:22 <ThickAsThieves>	can we actually know that?
Mar 23 14:09:25 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: yes, in an efficent market.  Cyprus was big news and unexpected.
Mar 23 14:09:39 <tiberiusiv>	cyprus has been expected for over 2 years.
Mar 23 14:09:44 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: i was trying to sell a house when btc was at 2
Mar 23 14:09:44 <tiberiusiv>	what are you talking about?
Mar 23 14:09:46 <smickles>	for btc
Mar 23 14:09:52 <smickles>	so you're a little off base
Mar 23 14:09:58 <tiberiusiv>	lol smickles
Mar 23 14:10:01 <Bugpowder>	Deposit haircut was not anticipated
Mar 23 14:10:06 <smickles>	i even put it in the -otc order book
Mar 23 14:10:10 <Bugpowder>	by the general market
Mar 23 14:10:15 <chmod755>	cyprus is 0.1% of the eurozone
Mar 23 14:10:18 <Bugpowder>	nor buy cypriots or russians
Mar 23 14:10:26 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 14:10:26 <gribble>	13.503203 seconds
Mar 23 14:10:33 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: sure it was, all the major players already removed $ out of cyprus
Mar 23 14:10:49 <splnkr>	cyprus + mtgox--->USA + ASIC mining
Mar 23 14:10:49 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: it wasnt expected by the idiots who stayed
Mar 23 14:11:02 <splnkr>	lots of external factors affecting price right now besides trading
Mar 23 14:11:02 <smickles>	splnkr: nice chart
Mar 23 14:11:17 <Bugpowder>	well... back down to $50 today?
Mar 23 14:11:23 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: majority of russian funds were converted into german bonds over a year ago.
Mar 23 14:11:42 <tiberiusiv>	hence why german paper had negative interest rates
Mar 23 14:11:42 <ThickAsThieves>	in summary, gox influences price heavily, i have not heard a sound argument otherwise
Mar 23 14:12:02 <tiberiusiv>	considering gox is 80% of participants
Mar 23 14:12:07 <tiberiusiv>	of course its the most important venue.
Mar 23 14:12:15 <splnkr>	that figure is from 2 years ago isn't it
Mar 23 14:12:24 <mjr_>	it is
Mar 23 14:12:25 <tiberiusiv>	its still over 70%
Mar 23 14:12:38 <smickles>	long story short, with the house i was trying to sell for btc, i ended up getting a qualified renter who declined to use btc to pay rent
Mar 23 14:12:40 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: I agree there has been a move to bunds.
Mar 23 14:12:43 <chmod755>	big news about cyprus.... a country with 300,000 citizens.... as a EU citizen nothing has changed for me during the last 5 years
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Mar 23 14:12:57 <mjr_>	i would love to see what percentage of gox trades make up daily blockchain transactions
Mar 23 14:13:07 <chmod755>	it's all just FUD
Mar 23 14:13:13 <smickles>	mjr_: watch bitcoin-monitor.com
Mar 23 14:13:15 <benkay>	do gox trades even hit the chain?
Mar 23 14:13:28 <mjr_>	not sure, but gox is definitely the worst
Mar 23 14:13:28 <smickles>	oh, no hyphen
Mar 23 14:13:34 <benkay>	i thought their system traded internally until you pulled funds
Mar 23 14:13:36 <mjr_>	it exacerbates any price movements
Mar 23 14:13:38 <smickles>	http://bitcoinmonitor.com
Mar 23 14:13:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009898 = 0.099 BTC [-]
Mar 23 14:13:43 <mjr_>	because of lag
Mar 23 14:14:07 <mjr_>	when people see price moves...they get in line for 10-120 seconds
Mar 23 14:14:09 <tiberiusiv>	mjr mtgox doesnt make up a big % of the blockchain transactions
Mar 23 14:14:12 <mjr_>	and things change
Mar 23 14:14:13 <chmod755>	i don't understand why people use mtgox
Mar 23 14:14:20 <Bugpowder>	gox trandes do not hit the chain
Mar 23 14:14:23 <Bugpowder>	they are all internal
Mar 23 14:14:25 <mjr_>	ah ok
Mar 23 14:14:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.0006928 = 0.9006 BTC [-]
Mar 23 14:14:32 <tiberiusiv>	another idiot chimes in.
Mar 23 14:14:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00069279 = 0.6928 BTC [-]
Mar 23 14:14:33 <Bugpowder>	that is why the gox hack was reversible
Mar 23 14:14:59 <smickles>	chmod755: at one point, i made a full switch to bitfloor, then they got robbed
Mar 23 14:15:11 <mjr_>	i use bitfloor
Mar 23 14:15:16 <mjr_>	pretty much exclusively
Mar 23 14:15:16 <Bugpowder>	and I suspect gox lag does contribute to instability
Mar 23 14:15:20 <Bugpowder>	bitfloor is insolvent
Mar 23 14:15:29 <mjr_>	well...i bought coins there
Mar 23 14:15:31 <Bugpowder>	llticker
Mar 23 14:15:32 <mjr_>	and moved them around
Mar 23 14:15:36 <tiberiusiv>	so one guy thinks mtgox is a gas station, another that mt gox trades occur on the blockchain and a third who thinks gribble sets the price.
Mar 23 14:15:37 <chmod755>	wtf is bitfloor
Mar 23 14:15:39 <mjr_>	so solvent enough for my needs
Mar 23 14:15:41 <tiberiusiv>	intellect hour in here today
Mar 23 14:15:45 <Bugpowder>	dude, another crash is on the way
Mar 23 14:15:51 <ThickAsThieves>	<ThickAsThieves> but arent 'all of the other exchanges" basing decsisions on gox?
Mar 23 14:15:52 <ThickAsThieves>	<tiberiusiv> of course not thickasthieves
Mar 23 14:15:52 <ThickAsThieves>	<tiberiusiv> gox does NOT set bitcoin prices for everyone
Mar 23 14:15:54 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: sure your needs, what 0.2btc ? lol
Mar 23 14:16:05 <mjr_>	100's
Mar 23 14:16:13 <ThickAsThieves>	[14:12] <tiberiusiv> of course its the most important venue.
Mar 23 14:16:17 <chmod755>	smickles, it's your choice to trust a web service with your coins.....
Mar 23 14:16:23 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves the exchanges do not base their decisions on gox lol.
Mar 23 14:16:29 <mjr_>	i use them to buy coins not hold coins
Mar 23 14:16:31 <tiberiusiv>	gox just has the most participants
Mar 23 14:16:37 <mjr_>	which last i checked is what exchanges were for
Mar 23 14:16:41 <ThickAsThieves>	when i say 'exchange' you know i mean in the abstract right?
Mar 23 14:16:42 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: you may have misunderstood me
Mar 23 14:16:44 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthives just be quiet. you are stupid
Mar 23 14:16:53 <ThickAsThieves>	as in buyers, bots, sellers, etc
Mar 23 14:17:12 <mjr_>	...
Mar 23 14:17:23 <mjr_>	if you can't see the gas station analogy as price advertising
Mar 23 14:17:27 <mjr_>	then you are retarded
Mar 23 14:17:31 <chmod755>	tiberiusiv, gribble sets the price. << that's true. he's one of the richest bots on the entire internet
Mar 23 14:17:45 <mjr_>	no gas station would say $20 a gallon, when across the street it says $5 a gallon
Mar 23 14:18:08 <mjr_>	competing markets drive everyone to a certain price set by the market
Mar 23 14:18:22 <mjr_>	its called price discovery and we are undertaking that right now
Mar 23 14:18:33 *	chmod755 selling for $10,000,000 a gallon
Mar 23 14:18:40 <mjr_>	btc-e has cheaper prices than gox...
Mar 23 14:18:43 <mjr_>	bitfloor has higher
Mar 23 14:18:54 <chmod755>	gox has lag!
Mar 23 14:19:03 <mjr_>	but that is only because of market inefficiencies
Mar 23 14:19:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 23 14:19:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.70568, Best ask: 61.70569, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 61.70569, 24 hour volume: 161828.11644717, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 72.35000, 24 hour vwap: 63.81619
Mar 23 14:19:08 <ThickAsThieves>	eek!
Mar 23 14:19:08 <mjr_>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 14:19:09 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 23 14:19:34 <ThickAsThieves>	calm before the storm
Mar 23 14:19:38 <chmod755>	lol
Mar 23 14:19:49 <ThickAsThieves>	gox is a standard because a standard was needed to let the market work better
Mar 23 14:20:08 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: what's your point about price discovery and gox? I think i missed it and i don't want to read the log
Mar 23 14:20:12 <chmod755>	errr well the majority of coins are not on gox
Mar 23 14:20:13 <splnkr>	coming soon: 24 hour low: 5.234560, 24 hour high: 723.5000
Mar 23 14:20:30 <mjr_>	splnkr: oh i hope so
Mar 23 14:20:34 <splnkr>	lol
Mar 23 14:20:52 <mjr_>	gets ready to buy at 5 before it hits $700
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Mar 23 14:21:12 <chmod755>	ThickAsThieves, so what would happen if gox had a huge security issue....
Mar 23 14:21:42 <chmod755>	like even big services like FB and Google are not 100% secure
Mar 23 14:22:01 <ThickAsThieves>	same thing as last time
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Mar 23 14:22:04 <ThickAsThieves>	mega crash
Mar 23 14:22:21 <ThickAsThieves>	we havent learned i guess
Mar 23 14:22:21 <mjr_>	then mega recovery
Mar 23 14:22:31 <splnkr>	yay roller coaster rides
Mar 23 14:22:44 <mjr_>	day traders boggle me...all you do is make the exchanges rich
Mar 23 14:22:57 <mjr_>	is bitcoin valuable as an idea? yes
Mar 23 14:23:15 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin is valuable in my bank account too
Mar 23 14:23:19 <chmod755>	ThickAsThieves, i think if more people traded on other exchanges it would allow them to make their services more secure and stuff (with fees, etc)
Mar 23 14:23:35 <mjr_>	its the network effect
Mar 23 14:23:48 <mjr_>	every user at gox gives a positive externality
Mar 23 14:23:48 <ThickAsThieves>	sadly when you try supporting other exchanges, all they do is fuck it up
Mar 23 14:23:50 <Bugpowder>	here is how it workd
Mar 23 14:23:53 <Bugpowder>	works
Mar 23 14:24:06 <Bugpowder>	1) make your exchange secure.  then 2) I will trade on it
Mar 23 14:24:12 <chmod755>	ThickAsThieves, bitcoin central never had a problem
Mar 23 14:24:18 <chmod755>	as an example
Mar 23 14:24:31 <chmod755>	like a serious problem
Mar 23 14:24:39 <Bugpowder>	gox probably has the best security right now, due to their previous issues and their capitalization.
Mar 23 14:24:42 <ThickAsThieves>	they are not US though are they?
Mar 23 14:24:45 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 23 14:24:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 60.60000, Best ask: 61.30162, Bid-ask spread: 0.70162, Last trade: 60.60000, 24 hour volume: 162492.76340264, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 72.35000, 24 hour vwap: 63.80453
Mar 23 14:24:51 <chmod755>	ThickAsThieves, mtgox is not in the US
Mar 23 14:24:58 <chmod755>	coinlab is
Mar 23 14:25:00 <ThickAsThieves>	but the deal in USD
Mar 23 14:25:02 <ThickAsThieves>	and dwolla
Mar 23 14:25:07 <Bugpowder>	coinlab is a major threat
Mar 23 14:25:10 <chmod755>	ThickAsThieves, i think they also do USD
Mar 23 14:25:24 <mjr_>	coinlab? gox's partners?
Mar 23 14:25:25 <chmod755>	and they're almost as old as mtgox
Mar 23 14:25:27 <Bugpowder>	50% chance they fuck this up
Mar 23 14:25:49 <Bugpowder>	coinlab has no experience in the big leagues
Mar 23 14:25:53 <mjr_>	i agree
Mar 23 14:25:56 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcoin-central.net/order_book
Mar 23 14:26:03 <splnkr>	as far as the current dip i'd point to this http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324373204578374611351125202.html
Mar 23 14:26:32 <mjr_>	while we are talking about this...someone said that you could place multiple orders on gox ie. with $1000 i can place $1000 orders at multiple price points
Mar 23 14:26:33 <splnkr>	i believe that was late-breaking news yesterday
Mar 23 14:26:41 <Bugpowder>	splnkr: This is just a speculative pullback. Not related to WSJ
Mar 23 14:26:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 26 @ 0.009898 = 0.2573 BTC [-]
Mar 23 14:26:58 <chmod755>	mjr_, wtf?
Mar 23 14:27:06 <Bugpowder>	mjr_: yes, but only what you have will get filled
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Mar 23 14:27:39 <ThickAsThieves>	the irony is that lesser exchanges must match gox price to have a fair chance of getting enough users to not rely on gox
Mar 23 14:27:45 <Bugpowder>	I'm not sure if all will display on the order chart if you don't  have the funds
Mar 23 14:27:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 44 @ 0.009899 = 0.4356 BTC [+]
Mar 23 14:27:56 <ThickAsThieves>	cant use bitcoincentral when they wasnt such a premium in USD
Mar 23 14:28:00 <ThickAsThieves>	want
Mar 23 14:28:12 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: first mover advantage.  S.DICE will never be beaten by a clone either
Mar 23 14:29:01 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves it is NOT bitcoincentral's premium
Mar 23 14:29:10 <mjr_>	yeah, so you are sending manipulative signals into the market
Mar 23 14:29:25 <mjr_>	i can make the order book look really really thick
Mar 23 14:29:29 <mjr_>	and then pull the plug
Mar 23 14:29:29 <jurov>	it's just cause there are more buyers and less sellers there, so to speak
Mar 23 14:29:31 <Bugpowder>	mjr_: I don't think so
Mar 23 14:29:48 <ThickAsThieves>	thats the problem at campbx too
Mar 23 14:29:48 <Bugpowder>	I can test it right now
Mar 23 14:29:49 <Bugpowder>	hang on
Mar 23 14:29:50 <mjr_>	if i can place an order...i can cancel that order
Mar 23 14:30:13 <chmod755>	Bugpowder, game idea: bernankeDICE - bloat bank databases with small bank transactions!
Mar 23 14:30:36 <mjr_>	chmod755: great idea!
Mar 23 14:30:52 <ThickAsThieves>	except theyll get ya on fees
Mar 23 14:30:54 <Bugpowder>	wow.  The gox bid ask are soooo far off right now
Mar 23 14:30:56 <Bugpowder>	64.5
Mar 23 14:30:57 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 23 14:31:03 <mjr_>	did it work?
Mar 23 14:31:05 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 23 14:31:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.51000, Best ask: 61.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 62.00001, 24 hour volume: 164600.00323438, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 72.35000, 24 hour vwap: 63.77672
Mar 23 14:31:08 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, i think even $5 difference in exchange rate is insignificant in the long run
Mar 23 14:31:11 <chmod755>	ThickAsThieves, just make a minimum on the bets
Mar 23 14:31:11 <Bugpowder>	give me a minute
Mar 23 14:31:26 <ThickAsThieves>	lets do it then
Mar 23 14:31:31 <chmod755>	lmao
Mar 23 14:31:38 <mjr_>	what that is called, by the way, is Soft Buying Power
Mar 23 14:31:44 <chmod755>	i don't have a bank account in the US tho
Mar 23 14:31:46 <ThickAsThieves>	it does sound like a good idea on the surface
Mar 23 14:31:48 <mjr_>	that is the limit to how many orders you can place
Mar 23 14:31:50 <chmod755>	lmao
Mar 23 14:31:59 <mjr_>	Hard buying power is the limit to how many orders you can have filled
Mar 23 14:32:15 <chmod755>	ThickAsThieves, i could do something like that in Europe
Mar 23 14:32:22 <mjr_>	usually those numbers should be the same or maybe soft bp slightly higher
Mar 23 14:32:23 <chmod755>	my bank would be surprised
Mar 23 14:32:32 <chmod755>	lol 1000 transactions of 1EUR?
Mar 23 14:32:35 <chmod755>	XD
Mar 23 14:32:45 <kakobrekla>	thats nothing to them
Mar 23 14:32:45 <mjr_>	merkelDICE?
Mar 23 14:32:51 <chmod755>	lmao
Mar 23 14:32:52 <ThickAsThieves>	happens all the time
Mar 23 14:33:07 <ThickAsThieves>	you;d need a serious scheme
Mar 23 14:33:13 <chmod755>	ya, but if it changes from like a few tx per month
Mar 23 14:33:15 <mjr_>	anyways, my point is that gox is probably a horrible signal to listen to
Mar 23 14:33:34 <mjr_>	at least from a depth perspective
Mar 23 14:33:34 <chmod755>	mjr_, i prefer listening to music
Mar 23 14:33:35 <ThickAsThieves>	yet its still the best
Mar 23 14:33:46 <mjr_>	most used != best
Mar 23 14:33:52 <ThickAsThieves>	actually
Mar 23 14:33:59 <ThickAsThieves>	why isnt there in index being used
Mar 23 14:34:00 <mjr_>	see betamax vs vhs
Mar 23 14:34:09 <mjr_>	that is the obvious solution...
Mar 23 14:34:15 <chmod755>	ThickAsThieves, did you try exchanges?
Mar 23 14:34:20 <chmod755>	*all
Mar 23 14:34:25 <ThickAsThieves>	obv not
Mar 23 14:34:32 <ThickAsThieves>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/
Mar 23 14:34:36 <ThickAsThieves>	why not use that
Mar 23 14:34:53 <ThickAsThieves>	get an index going from otc
Mar 23 14:34:55 <ThickAsThieves>	weight them all
Mar 23 14:35:00 <chmod755>	on a small exchange my money is more powerful!
Mar 23 14:35:01 <ThickAsThieves>	avg
Mar 23 14:35:02 <chmod755>	XD
Mar 23 14:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 10 @ 0.0807819 = 0.8078 BTC [-]
Mar 23 14:36:03 <Bugpowder>	This is weighted.
Mar 23 14:36:03 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/
Mar 23 14:36:25 <mjr_>	yes, it is more accurate...but still subjective somewhat
Mar 23 14:36:38 <mjr_>	because you basically choose what to include
Mar 23 14:36:46 <mjr_>	otc is a good price signal i think
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Mar 23 14:37:16 <chmod755>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/ << should add a pie of exchanges too (not only exchanges per currency and currencies)
Mar 23 14:37:41 <mjr_>	i agree
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Mar 23 14:38:09 <mjr_>	Bugpowder: can you place more orders than you have BP for?
Mar 23 14:38:16 <ThickAsThieves>	so we have lotsa good data
Mar 23 14:38:17 <Bugpowder>	goxlag is delaying
Mar 23 14:38:18 <ThickAsThieves>	plus oix
Mar 23 14:38:22 <Bugpowder>	I placed them, they are pending
Mar 23 14:38:22 <ThickAsThieves>	someone make an index
Mar 23 14:38:46 <mjr_>	gah, i hate gox
Mar 23 14:38:53 <ThickAsThieves>	make that index have the best sockets or whatever
Mar 23 14:38:59 <mjr_>	if i had my choice i would buy on btc-e and sell on bitfloor
Mar 23 14:39:03 <ThickAsThieves>	and become the standard
Mar 23 14:39:03 <mjr_>	all day long
Mar 23 14:39:16 <Bugpowder>	mjr_ I have the answer
Mar 23 14:39:27 <Bugpowder>	You can place more bids than you have funds for
Mar 23 14:39:33 <mjr_>	yes
Mar 23 14:39:36 <mjr_>	i know
Mar 23 14:39:38 <Bugpowder>	BUT
Mar 23 14:39:55 <mjr_>	the suspense is killing me
Mar 23 14:40:09 <Bugpowder>	The bids you don't have funds for are not listed on the order book, starting from the lowest price down.
Mar 23 14:40:24 <mjr_>	wait...
Mar 23 14:40:33 <mjr_>	on a buy order or sell?
Mar 23 14:40:50 <mjr_>	do they put the orders closest to top of the book or furthest
Mar 23 14:40:58 <Bugpowder>	So I placed a set of bids at 45-50, and by bids at 30 and 35 that I no longer have funds for disappear from the order bood
Mar 23 14:41:01 <Bugpowder>	book
Mar 23 14:41:31 <Bugpowder>	but they are still listed on my own page as existing but unfunded.
Mar 23 14:41:40 <mjr_>	does that include api?
Mar 23 14:41:49 <mjr_>	ie. goxlive charts etc
Mar 23 14:41:53 <Bugpowder>	what is the order book json?
Mar 23 14:41:59 <mjr_>	hold on
Mar 23 14:42:32 <mjr_>	there site is slow too
Mar 23 14:44:24 <mjr_>	https://data.mtgox.com/api/0/data/getDepth.php?Currency=USD
Mar 23 14:45:44 <mjr_>	http://data.mtgox.com/api/1/BTCUSD/depth/fetch
Mar 23 14:47:09 <smickles>	THE order book json?
Mar 23 14:47:13 <smickles>	$depth
Mar 23 14:47:15 <mpexbot>	smickles: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hRPB9a5i
Mar 23 14:47:18 <smickles>	;D
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Mar 23 14:47:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.0006928 = 0.9006 BTC [+]
Mar 23 14:47:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5771 @ 0.00069279 = 3.9981 BTC [-]
Mar 23 14:47:47 <Bugpowder>	mjr_: those are incomplete
Mar 23 14:47:55 <mjr_>	yes i saw
Mar 23 14:48:05 <mjr_>	not sure where the complete book is
Mar 23 14:49:01 <mjr_>	not sure if they show it, but the end result is that there will be changes in the book that may not be expected
Mar 23 14:49:15 <mjr_>	especially if someone is running a bot and market making
Mar 23 14:50:48 <Bugpowder>	OK I confirmed it on clarkmoody
Mar 23 14:50:59 <Bugpowder>	the unfunded bids don't display
Mar 23 14:50:59 <mjr_>	it disappears?
Mar 23 14:51:01 <Bugpowder>	yes
Mar 23 14:51:04 <mjr_>	ah ok
Mar 23 14:51:11 <mjr_>	not that bad then
Mar 23 14:51:16 <Bugpowder>	and the partially funded one shows up as 92.39 BTC instead of 100 BTC
Mar 23 14:51:34 <mjr_>	same with asks i am assuming
Mar 23 14:52:16 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.032)
Mar 23 14:52:16 <gribble>	77.479338843
Mar 23 14:52:24 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 23 14:52:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 62.52000, Best ask: 63.64999, Bid-ask spread: 1.12999, Last trade: 63.64999, 24 hour volume: 165216.67676446, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 71.99000, 24 hour vwap: 63.76409
Mar 23 14:52:25 <Bugpowder>	almost certainly
Mar 23 14:52:39 <smickles>	$vwap ^oix
Mar 23 14:52:40 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 67.50549924 high: 70.00595985 low: 51.26011131 volume: 14615 btc: 3124.38329456 30 day: no data
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Mar 23 14:57:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00463 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:03:55 <smickles>	$depth c750t
Mar 23 15:03:56 <mpexbot>	smickles: O.BTCUSD.C750T Bids: ['11 @ 0.03308446', '1000 @ 0.00823144']
Mar 23 15:03:57 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['13 @ 0.04908448', '1000 @ 0.05281501']
Mar 23 15:04:47 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.033)
Mar 23 15:04:48 <gribble>	77.5594622544
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Mar 23 15:05:10 <smickles>	$vwap oix
Mar 23 15:05:11 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 67.50549924 high: 70.00595985 low: 51.26011131 volume: 14615 btc: 3124.38329456 30 day: no data
Mar 23 15:06:27 <mjr_>	http://i.imgur.com/sHLF27s.jpg
Mar 23 15:06:30 <mjr_>	hilarious
Mar 23 15:06:39 <mjr_>	and we find 120 seconds lag frustrating
Mar 23 15:06:43 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 23 15:06:45 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227645 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 162 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 18 hours, 25 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6615572.09208 | Estimated Percent Change: 36.46975
Mar 23 15:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.509 = 4.072 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.509 = 4.581 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.509 = 3.054 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:13:10 <smickles>	heh, goat is asking me about my offer to help people short s.mpoe
Mar 23 15:13:16 <smickles>	$depth mpoe
Mar 23 15:13:17 <mpexbot>	smickles: S.MPOE Bids: ['8990 @ 0.00069279', '5000 @ 0.00068222', '10000 @ 0.00068141', '4062 @ 0.00068033', '13500 @ 0.00067591']
Mar 23 15:13:18 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['1300 @ 0.00070068', '732 @ 0.00070069', '1300 @ 0.00070069', '22678 @ 0.0007007', '26444 @ 0.00070184']
Mar 23 15:14:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 56 @ 0.509 = 28.504 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:14:03 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 15:14:03 <gribble>	4.446135 seconds
Mar 23 15:14:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.80698 = 1.614 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:14:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.80755 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:14:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.80769 = 3.2308 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:14:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8077 = 8.077 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:14:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.8077 = 4.0385 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:14:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.80945 = 16.189 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:14:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.80947 = 8.0947 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:15:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:15:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.835 = 3.34 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:15:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:15:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.845 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:15:35 <ThickAsThieves>	someone is hungry for some AM
Mar 23 15:16:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.8517 = 6.8136 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 15:16:54 <Bugpowder>	mjr_: Joe Reddit mad at coin base.  No sympathy here.
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Mar 23 15:18:51 <kakobrekla>	regarding coinbase, what can you expect from mactards
Mar 23 15:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070068 = 0.9109 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:19:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 732 @ 0.00070069 = 0.5129 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:19:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070069 = 0.9109 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:19:16 <Namworld>	producing nice design and poor code?
Mar 23 15:19:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7668 @ 0.0007007 = 5.373 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:19:38 <kakobrekla>	yes bootstrap is not too bad
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Mar 23 15:20:25 <kakobrekla>	hackers should do code, finance people should do finance and mactards can go play in the sandbox
Mar 23 15:21:34 <chmod755>	and kakobrekla should do kakobrekla!
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Mar 23 15:24:51 <kakobrekla>	yeah ill self do myself with self
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Mar 23 15:25:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15010 @ 0.0007007 = 10.5175 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:25:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26444 @ 0.00070184 = 18.5595 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5646 @ 0.00070741 = 3.994 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 15:26:57 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 23 15:26:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.40136, Best ask: 61.50110, Bid-ask spread: 0.09974, Last trade: 61.50109, 24 hour volume: 167094.40968927, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 71.79900, 24 hour vwap: 63.67427
Mar 23 15:27:42 <smickles>	falling again
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Mar 23 15:32:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 70
Mar 23 15:32:58 <gribble>	There are currently 8894.1816 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 602226.070138 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0026 seconds
Mar 23 15:33:04 <ThickAsThieves>	still a chance we'll see 70 again before Monday
Mar 23 15:33:09 <Bugpowder>	dude
Mar 23 15:33:13 <Bugpowder>	we will see 70 soon
Mar 23 15:33:25 <Bugpowder>	sunday night, when the wires start clearing
Mar 23 15:33:28 <Bugpowder>	I think
Mar 23 15:33:29 <ThickAsThieves>	and then 66 again
Mar 23 15:33:31 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 23 15:33:36 <Bugpowder>	but who knows
Mar 23 15:33:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i do think a bump is incoming
Mar 23 15:34:00 <ThickAsThieves>	new ATH
Mar 23 15:34:14 <ThickAsThieves>	yes i jinxed it
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Mar 23 15:34:56 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: wires clearing has nothing to do with anything.
Mar 23 15:35:22 <tiberiusiv>	first off bidders would already have been buying BTC, just to flip them to the new buyers if "wires clearing" bs. was true
Mar 23 15:35:46 <tiberiusiv>	amazing the level of ignorance of users.
Mar 23 15:36:27 <ThickAsThieves>	my name is tiberius and everything you say has nothing to do with anything
Mar 23 15:36:29 <tiberiusiv>	any new demand that is held up by technicalities is already priced in
Mar 23 15:37:01 <tiberiusiv>	people love to rationalize and explain away why something is at X price
Mar 23 15:37:07 <tiberiusiv>	and where it "should be"
Mar 23 15:37:26 <ThickAsThieves>	thats what traders do
Mar 23 15:37:41 <tiberiusiv>	yes and theres a reason 99% of them lose
Mar 23 15:37:54 <deadweasel>	99%?
Mar 23 15:38:00 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 23 15:38:12 <ThickAsThieves>	he meant 9900%
Mar 23 15:38:13 <tiberiusiv>	1% of traders are profitable in the long term
Mar 23 15:38:19 <tiberiusiv>	even on wallstreet
Mar 23 15:38:23 <ThickAsThieves>	like everyone but him basically
Mar 23 15:38:23 <deadweasel>	traders of what, exactly?
Mar 23 15:38:31 <tiberiusiv>	anything
Mar 23 15:38:43 <tiberiusiv>	for example majority of fund managers cannot even beat the Sp500
Mar 23 15:38:55 <tiberiusiv>	look it up
Mar 23 15:39:14 <deadweasel>	we all die in the end
Mar 23 15:39:19 <tiberiusiv>	trading is 0 sum, for someone to make money there has to be a loser
Mar 23 15:39:31 <tiberiusiv>	theres a reason why its the same people making the $ over and over
Mar 23 15:39:34 <tiberiusiv>	and very few of them
Mar 23 15:39:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.0007074 = 0.9196 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 203 @ 0.00070741 = 0.1436 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:39:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6755 @ 0.00070741 = 4.7786 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:39:47 <deadweasel>	because they speculate correctly?
Mar 23 15:39:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8142 @ 0.00071369 = 5.8109 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:39:58 <tiberiusiv>	look at the bitcoin crowd for example, less then 1% of thetotal "community" contributes anything
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Mar 23 15:40:09 <tiberiusiv>	its like what 20-30 individuals running services?
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Mar 23 15:40:39 <deadweasel>	are any of them making money?
Mar 23 15:40:45 <tiberiusiv>	so it will be a natural tendancy even in bitcoin for 1% to have all the wealth
Mar 23 15:40:48 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: you are confusing an efficient market with the mtgox market.
Mar 23 15:40:53 <tiberiusiv>	and 99% to have little
Mar 23 15:41:03 <Bugpowder>	The tendency for downward moves during the weekend is real.
Mar 23 15:41:26 <tiberiusiv>	in bitcoin at the moment, about 20% of the users control 80% of the coins
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Mar 23 15:41:31 <ThickAsThieves>	the events of the week can probably amplify or dampen that effect as well
Mar 23 15:41:37 <tiberiusiv>	5% of the users control 50%
Mar 23 15:41:41 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: that is true in all things
Mar 23 15:41:50 <Bugpowder>	zipf distribution
Mar 23 15:41:51 <deadweasel>	yup
Mar 23 15:42:15 <awkorama>	at least in bitcoin the tail won't be too long
Mar 23 15:42:26 <tiberiusiv>	since bitcoin has no bailout mechanism, alot of idiotic users ie those that use their coins wrecklessly drop out
Mar 23 15:42:43 <tiberiusiv>	lending bitcoins for example to people who sell them for fiat, you will lose
Mar 23 15:43:21 <tiberiusiv>	in the end i would say 1-2% of bitcoiners will control 80%+ of BTC
Mar 23 15:43:35 <tiberiusiv>	with the remaining 20% being fought over by the 99% percenters
Mar 23 15:43:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i will concede that generally buying and holding has been the safest way to invest in bitcoin and make profit
Mar 23 15:44:01 <tiberiusiv>	you havent made a profit until youve realized it.
Mar 23 15:44:06 <tiberiusiv>	until then its a paper gain
Mar 23 15:44:13 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Mar 23 15:44:23 <tiberiusiv>	its mathematically impossible for even 5% of total bitcoiners to all cashout
Mar 23 15:44:30 <ThickAsThieves>	so that gets people seeking dividends
Mar 23 15:44:47 <tiberiusiv>	100k which is 1% of bitcoins in circulation would collapse the price temporarily into the 30's
Mar 23 15:44:54 <tiberiusiv>	so imagine 5%
Mar 23 15:45:26 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: the reality is that there are barely any viable bitcoin derived income producers
Mar 23 15:45:40 <tiberiusiv>	the only 2 currently are miners and gambling/speculative business's
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Mar 23 15:46:28 <ThickAsThieves>	they are the most popular as well I think
Mar 23 15:46:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:46:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.771 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:46:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.771 = 6.939 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:46:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:46:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.763 = 3.052 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:46:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76201 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:46:47 <tiberiusiv>	because all other business's are not viable
Mar 23 15:46:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.761102 = 6.8499 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:46:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.761102 = 8.3721 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:48:27 <Namworld>	mining doesn't seem viable to me anymore
Mar 23 15:48:50 <Namworld>	Most of minings thing end up being a losing proposition it seems.
Mar 23 15:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:49:09 <tiberiusiv>	thats how it is with metals too
Mar 23 15:49:28 <Namworld>	^ VTX
Mar 23 15:49:34 <tiberiusiv>	out of the tens of thousands of metal miners, not even a handful are profitable
Mar 23 15:49:36 <Namworld>	It's also a Bitcoin derived income.
Mar 23 15:50:02 <tiberiusiv>	as i said, speculation/gambling
Mar 23 15:50:15 <Namworld>	It's a currency exchange CAD <-> BTC
Mar 23 15:50:31 <tiberiusiv>	yes that falls under speculation.
Mar 23 15:50:55 <Namworld>	Well that's not really speculation to me if it's for cashing out/buying some BTC
Mar 23 15:51:00 <tiberiusiv>	90% of exchange volume is speculation, only 10% is for someone who actually needs BTC
Mar 23 15:51:00 <Namworld>	Except for daytraders
Mar 23 15:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.509 BTC [+]
Mar 23 15:51:14 <tiberiusiv>	you realize its maybe 10% who are cashing in and out?
Mar 23 15:51:31 <tiberiusiv>	cashing in to hold BTC is speculation
Mar 23 15:51:43 <tiberiusiv>	cashing in to buy BTC to trade for something else is not
Mar 23 15:52:05 <Namworld>	Possibly
Mar 23 15:52:08 <tiberiusiv>	theres only 2 things you really need BTC for if you want to spend, silkroad and gambling
Mar 23 15:52:12 <Namworld>	I think most of the current price is speculation
Mar 23 15:52:20 <tiberiusiv>	anything else its cheaper to use fiat
Mar 23 15:52:47 <Namworld>	yeah, for that
Mar 23 15:53:02 <Namworld>	Which is what makes me think the whole current price is mostly speculation
Mar 23 15:53:14 <ThickAsThieves>	what % of the price is speculation tho
Mar 23 15:53:19 <Namworld>	Merchants accepting Bitcoins don't get good results it seems
Mar 23 15:53:28 <tiberiusiv>	all markets in the world are speculative in nature
Mar 23 15:53:29 <Namworld>	and there's not legit BTC spenders
Mar 23 15:53:34 <Namworld>	not enough*
Mar 23 15:53:39 <tiberiusiv>	are you aware 95% of oil contracts are speculators?
Mar 23 15:53:46 <tiberiusiv>	there doesnt have to be
Mar 23 15:53:59 <tiberiusiv>	theres no reason to spend BTC on anything other then SK or gambling
Mar 23 15:54:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.0006928 = 0.9006 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:54:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8990 @ 0.00069279 = 6.2282 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:54:19 <tiberiusiv>	theres nothing wrong with speculation.
Mar 23 15:54:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068222 = 3.4111 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2510 @ 0.00068141 = 1.7103 BTC [-]
Mar 23 15:54:36 <ThickAsThieves>	tahts speculation
Mar 23 15:54:47 <tiberiusiv>	let me give you a simple example
Mar 23 15:54:58 <tiberiusiv>	suppose you want to purchase a $1k laptop
Mar 23 15:55:10 <ThickAsThieves>	a chromebook plz
Mar 23 15:55:11 <tiberiusiv>	are you going to want to get rid of your BTC or your Fiat first?
Mar 23 15:55:26 <ThickAsThieves>	fiat
Mar 23 15:55:34 <tiberiusiv>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham's_law
Mar 23 15:56:15 <tiberiusiv>	you want to get rid of the "bad" money first
Mar 23 15:56:55 <tiberiusiv>	thats why any business selling goods that can be obtained with fiat will not be successful.
Mar 23 15:57:25 <ThickAsThieves>	thats a bit general
Mar 23 15:57:36 <tiberiusiv>	you will see it progress
Mar 23 15:57:57 <tiberiusiv>	hence why illegal activites work so well with BTC
Mar 23 15:58:03 <smickles>	wouldn't ya know it. I go to spend some bitcoins, and the product is on backorder :|
Mar 23 15:58:16 <Namworld>	I tried lending and it burned. I tried buying/flipping/holding stocks and it's a huge success. I tried options but I'm kind of failing at that.
Mar 23 15:58:33 <Namworld>	Good selection of BTC stocks seems to be the way to go.
Mar 23 15:58:47 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: you can only lend BTC to people/entities that have BTC derived income
Mar 23 15:58:55 <Namworld>	There's less than 25% of what's available that's actually good/interesting at all tho.
Mar 23 15:59:03 <Namworld>	It was lent to a miner...
Mar 23 15:59:05 <tiberiusiv>	which is not even 5 people at this point
Mar 23 15:59:18 <tiberiusiv>	or reputable miners
Mar 23 15:59:31 <jurov>	not even 5 people???
Mar 23 15:59:41 <Namworld>	He was reputable
Mar 23 15:59:43 <tiberiusiv>	well who  has become based incomes?
Mar 23 15:59:55 <jurov>	me, kakobrekla, mircea_popescu, ukto
Mar 23 16:00:01 <jurov>	just off my head
Mar 23 16:00:05 <Namworld>	Gigavps paid, amazingrando defaulted.
Mar 23 16:00:05 <tiberiusiv>	and satoshi dice
Mar 23 16:00:18 <jurov>	yea evoorhees, burnside
Mar 23 16:00:21 <tiberiusiv>	jurov try hard to name more you wont.
Mar 23 16:00:25 <Namworld>	They were the two largest public miners.
Mar 23 16:00:32 <jurov>	slush
Mar 23 16:00:41 <ThickAsThieves>	eleuthria
Mar 23 16:00:51 <jurov>	jeff/gavin
Mar 23 16:01:05 <tiberiusiv>	how do they have a bTC income?
Mar 23 16:01:29 <jurov>	at least one of them gets salary from btc foundation
Mar 23 16:01:40 <jurov>	plus mining
Mar 23 16:01:56 <tiberiusiv>	as i said, we are at 0.001% of total users?
Mar 23 16:01:58 <tiberiusiv>	if not less
Mar 23 16:02:08 <tiberiusiv>	have debt servicing capability?
Mar 23 16:02:10 <jurov>	okay but not "less than 5"
Mar 23 16:02:20 <tiberiusiv>	ok fine 12 :)
Mar 23 16:02:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm playing a drinking game, every time tiberius quotes a % with authority
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Mar 23 16:02:40 <ThickAsThieves>	XX
Mar 23 16:02:42 <tiberiusiv>	which is a statistical 0 when compared to the 100k+ BTC users
Mar 23 16:02:48 <jurov>	archive.org employees (they didn't disclose how much it's yet)
Mar 23 16:03:27 <tiberiusiv>	lol thickasthieves
Mar 23 16:03:40 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 23 16:04:14 <tiberiusiv>	thats why there is so many scammers, most borrowers are short selling BTC and posting nothing as collateral
Mar 23 16:04:27 <jurov>	plus i'm sure there were other tens of people who mined in 2009-2011 and now their income is nicely boosted
Mar 23 16:04:32 <tiberiusiv>	and then they cannot cover their shorts, ie come up with the fiat to buy BTC at 10x the price to repay a loan
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Mar 23 16:05:12 <jurov>	um, and what are we arguing about? i agree that 1% btc users control over 90% of everything
Mar 23 16:05:28 <ThickAsThieves>	drink!
Mar 23 16:05:34 <tiberiusiv>	and 1% will end up with 90% of the coins
Mar 23 16:05:38 <tiberiusiv>	well 80%
Mar 23 16:05:38 <jurov>	and thet most of volume is gambling and speculation (often indistinguishable from each  other)
Mar 23 16:05:53 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 23 16:06:06 <jurov>	no, 90%. if i have btcs on blockchain.info, who controls them?
Mar 23 16:06:31 <jurov>	i'd say they are under their control practically
Mar 23 16:06:49 <tiberiusiv>	we arent argueing, i was simply explaining its impossible for a business that accepts BTC only to be viable against a fiat competitor
Mar 23 16:07:09 <tiberiusiv>	people will always spend their bad money(fiat) first
Mar 23 16:07:53 <jurov>	not if btc prices are cheaper
Mar 23 16:08:04 <tiberiusiv>	its impossible for them to be.
Mar 23 16:08:33 <gwillen>	tiberiusiv: that's now how gresham's law works
Mar 23 16:08:43 <tiberiusiv>	i know
Mar 23 16:08:48 <ThickAsThieves>	what if they run off loaned money and then achieve dominance
Mar 23 16:08:50 <jurov>	we have plenty of externalities here
Mar 23 16:09:07 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: nope in a fixed monetary system the prices will never be cheaper then fiat.
Mar 23 16:09:09 <ThickAsThieves>	(with lower prices)
Mar 23 16:09:12 <jurov>	such as credit card taxes and regulatory bs in many areas
Mar 23 16:09:28 <jurov>	if they are elided, btc prices can be lower there
Mar 23 16:09:38 <tiberiusiv>	if you spent your bitcoins 3months ago on a new television, you just paid 300% more for it then paying with fiat
Mar 23 16:09:44 <jurov>	won't happend with groceries, ofc
Mar 23 16:10:12 <tiberiusiv>	the only way BTC is cheaper is if the business is completely BTC based
Mar 23 16:10:19 <tiberiusiv>	meaning input costs are fully paid in BTC
Mar 23 16:10:37 <jurov>	what about people getting "short" fiat and converting everything to btc?
Mar 23 16:10:40 <tiberiusiv>	selling electronics and accepting BTC to sell for USD to pay suppliers, will NEVER be cheaper then just using fiat
Mar 23 16:10:42 <Namworld>	I'm drunk
Mar 23 16:10:53 <jurov>	there it's much simpler to pay btc than to convert back to fiat
Mar 23 16:10:54 <Namworld>	Too many % from tiberius
Mar 23 16:11:06 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: no it isnt
Mar 23 16:11:15 <tiberiusiv>	its simpler
Mar 23 16:11:22 <tiberiusiv>	sorry i misread
Mar 23 16:11:30 <tiberiusiv>	but you still are overpaying in the long run
Mar 23 16:11:35 <ThickAsThieves>	a business doesnt need to only accept btc
Mar 23 16:11:36 <tiberiusiv>	vs getting RID of fiat
Mar 23 16:11:51 <ThickAsThieves>	the can accept both and use fiat for expenses
Mar 23 16:11:55 <tiberiusiv>	btc sales will always be low or none existant
Mar 23 16:11:59 <tiberiusiv>	vs fiat
Mar 23 16:12:07 <tiberiusiv>	other then people who cant obtain the fiat
Mar 23 16:12:27 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe the amount of sales in btc is enough
Mar 23 16:12:30 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoinstore is a prime example, it wont be around in its present form in 6months
Mar 23 16:12:54 <tiberiusiv>	they are resorting to begging tactics for sales
Mar 23 16:13:00 <jurov>	and alpaca socks croaked long ago, yea?
Mar 23 16:13:23 <tiberiusiv>	no that seller probably sells 10x in fiat
Mar 23 16:13:27 <tiberiusiv>	then in BTC
Mar 23 16:13:48 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoinstore is btc only
Mar 23 16:13:55 <tiberiusiv>	but there suppliers have to be paid in fiat
Mar 23 16:14:06 <jurov>	what about the externalities? you didn't reply to that
Mar 23 16:14:10 <tiberiusiv>	so youve introduced exchange rate fees as well
Mar 23 16:14:30 <tiberiusiv>	the only externality is someone who doesnt have access to fiat and obtains BTC somehow
Mar 23 16:14:43 <tiberiusiv>	or a BTC derived income wants to shop
Mar 23 16:14:48 <tiberiusiv>	which is a tiny tiny customer base
Mar 23 16:14:52 <jurov>	for example in whole eastern europe it often happens that banks are closed
Mar 23 16:15:07 <jurov>	and deposits frozen
Mar 23 16:15:20 <tiberiusiv>	i just said that...
Mar 23 16:15:39 <jurov>	it isn't reported in media, but in greece it happened several times already in past 5 years
Mar 23 16:15:47 <tiberiusiv>	and the last thing someone with frozen funds is going to be doing is shopping for laptops on bitcoinstore
Mar 23 16:15:51 <pigeons>	;;seen topace_
Mar 23 16:15:51 <gribble>	topace_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 19 hours, 51 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <topace_> haha
Mar 23 16:16:00 <tiberiusiv>	yes i know jurov
Mar 23 16:16:23 <jurov>	and even here business cash transactions over 1000 euro are illegal
Mar 23 16:16:26 <tiberiusiv>	again the customer base for bitcoinstore is too small to be a viable business
Mar 23 16:16:37 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: they still happen
Mar 23 16:17:03 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: that means you cant cash buy BTC without breaking the law
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Mar 23 16:17:27 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin consumer business's require bitcoin incomes
Mar 23 16:17:33 <kakobrekla>	the margins on tech stuff are too low
Mar 23 16:17:34 <tiberiusiv>	of which  nobody has other then a tiny %
Mar 23 16:17:44 <kakobrekla>	they cant dump prices enough
Mar 23 16:17:59 <tiberiusiv>	they have exchange rate problems too
Mar 23 16:18:13 <jurov>	again, why you think one can't convert their fiat income right after payday and then use btc exclusively?
Mar 23 16:18:30 <tiberiusiv>	becuase why?
Mar 23 16:18:40 <tiberiusiv>	its cheaper to use the fiat to buy the goods you need
Mar 23 16:18:50 <jurov>	how cheaper?
Mar 23 16:18:51 <tiberiusiv>	vs being down 5% off the bat just in exchange.
Mar 23 16:18:59 <jurov>	what 5%
Mar 23 16:19:01 <jurov>	????
Mar 23 16:19:04 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is better to SAVE in.
Mar 23 16:19:08 <tiberiusiv>	not to SPEND in
Mar 23 16:19:15 <tiberiusiv>	that is a critical difference most people do not understand
Mar 23 16:19:27 <jurov>	i'm talking about BOTH spending and saving
Mar 23 16:19:41 <ThickAsThieves>	actually if someone did what jurov suggests
Mar 23 16:19:43 <jurov>	and added safety that once they convert, no one can freeze it
Mar 23 16:19:46 <ThickAsThieves>	since Jan 1
Mar 23 16:19:50 <ThickAsThieves>	theyd be doing pretty well
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Mar 23 16:19:59 <tiberiusiv>	no theyu wouldnt
Mar 23 16:20:07 <tiberiusiv>	they would only have done well if they saved 100%
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Mar 23 16:20:15 <tiberiusiv>	if they spent it, they missed out on the gains
Mar 23 16:20:18 <ThickAsThieves>	they woiuld have the maximum amount of their money in btc
Mar 23 16:20:19 <jurov>	O.o you lose me here
Mar 23 16:20:37 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: i just said bitcoin is BETTER to save in
Mar 23 16:20:38 <kakobrekla>	tiberiusiv is confused.
Mar 23 16:20:42 <tiberiusiv>	but WORSE to spend with
Mar 23 16:20:46 <jurov>	so you're suggesting to forego eating etc. and save bitcoins instead?
Mar 23 16:20:46 <tiberiusiv>	im not confused.
Mar 23 16:20:59 <tiberiusiv>	no you use fiat for spending
Mar 23 16:21:01 <tiberiusiv>	and BTC for saving
Mar 23 16:21:31 <tiberiusiv>	fiat also offers more guarantee of the product
Mar 23 16:21:34 <ThickAsThieves>	semantics i guess
Mar 23 16:21:38 <jurov>	look say i get 1000 euro paid. convert them immediately to 25BTC for 40 EURO/BTC
Mar 23 16:21:40 <tiberiusiv>	its not semantics
Mar 23 16:21:50 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 23 16:22:05 <ThickAsThieves>	he doesnt spend it all instantly
Mar 23 16:22:09 <tiberiusiv>	and then do what?
Mar 23 16:22:10 <jurov>	then later i convert some back to fiat at 45 EUR/BTC when i need groceries/etc.
Mar 23 16:22:24 <jurov>	say i convert 15BTC back
Mar 23 16:22:25 <tiberiusiv>	what if its 35EUR/BTC
Mar 23 16:22:28 <tiberiusiv>	when you need groceries
Mar 23 16:22:30 <ThickAsThieves>	saving for even a week in btc can make you money
Mar 23 16:22:35 <tiberiusiv>	are you going to forego eating?
Mar 23 16:22:48 <tiberiusiv>	thats not guaranteed.
Mar 23 16:22:57 <ThickAsThieves>	but grocery gift cards on bitmit?
Mar 23 16:23:02 <tiberiusiv>	if i saved BTC at $20 in 2011. did i stop eating for an entire year?
Mar 23 16:23:02 <ThickAsThieves>	do an otc request?
Mar 23 16:23:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno
Mar 23 16:23:07 <jurov>	yes that's the risk. but then one has usually only to wait day or two
Mar 23 16:23:08 <tiberiusiv>	when it went to $5
Mar 23 16:23:16 <jurov>	for the rate to recover
Mar 23 16:23:21 <tiberiusiv>	thats not true jurov
Mar 23 16:23:29 <tiberiusiv>	you had to wait 2 years for the rate to recover from 2011
Mar 23 16:23:31 <jurov>	when it was not true? last time in 2011
Mar 23 16:23:34 <tiberiusiv>	what are you talking about?
Mar 23 16:23:42 <tiberiusiv>	in the summer of 2012
Mar 23 16:23:42 <jurov>	then your saving would be hit, too
Mar 23 16:23:47 <tiberiusiv>	15 to 7
Mar 23 16:23:50 <tiberiusiv>	you waited weeks.
Mar 23 16:23:59 <tiberiusiv>	YOU DONT HOLD BALANCES YOU NEED TO SPEND IN BTC
Mar 23 16:24:03 <tiberiusiv>	YOU ONLY HOLD SAVINGS
Mar 23 16:24:06 <kakobrekla>	CALM THE FUCK DOWN
Mar 23 16:24:13 <tiberiusiv>	your arguement is wrong.
Mar 23 16:24:26 <jurov>	that was only 1 month of 12. rest 11 month it would work
Mar 23 16:24:27 <awkorama>	caps lock war ?
Mar 23 16:24:37 <jurov>	tiberiusiv is funny
Mar 23 16:24:42 <tiberiusiv>	so you starve for a month.
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Mar 23 16:24:47 <ThickAsThieves>	tiberius i think youre pretty smart but a lot of your arguments amount to "no suh!"
Mar 23 16:24:58 <ThickAsThieves>	arguing to argue or something
Mar 23 16:25:02 <jurov>	when the banks freeze, you starve too
Mar 23 16:25:07 <tiberiusiv>	any money you need for immediate consumption or consumption purposes
Mar 23 16:25:10 <tiberiusiv>	you keep in fiat
Mar 23 16:25:17 <tiberiusiv>	jurov you have the option of paper cash
Mar 23 16:25:26 <tiberiusiv>	you dont need to use the bank for anything otherthen cashing a paycheck
Mar 23 16:25:31 <ThickAsThieves>	of course people will hold some fiat
Mar 23 16:25:31 <jurov>	but then ALL of your money is inaccessible, with btc you still have half
Mar 23 16:25:32 <tiberiusiv>	even then you can cash it at 3rd parties
Mar 23 16:25:37 <ThickAsThieves>	its practical
Mar 23 16:25:42 <tiberiusiv>	wrong again jurov
Mar 23 16:25:47 <ThickAsThieves>	people still hold fiat even with credit cards around forever
Mar 23 16:26:01 <tiberiusiv>	you can hold cash
Mar 23 16:26:24 <jurov>	yes, you have to get paid in cash
Mar 23 16:26:29 <tiberiusiv>	BTC should only be used as a savings vehicle, and purchasing equities in viable BTC business's(which are rare)
Mar 23 16:26:36 <ThickAsThieves>	if the scales tip from fiat to btc, all these dynamics would shift anyway
Mar 23 16:26:37 <jurov>	your opinion
Mar 23 16:26:44 <tiberiusiv>	for consumption purposes, especially when liquidity is *immediately* required
Mar 23 16:26:51 <tiberiusiv>	ie buying food or paying the rent
Mar 23 16:26:54 <tiberiusiv>	you should keep cash.
Mar 23 16:27:04 <tiberiusiv>	unless your lanlord accepts btc for food/rent
Mar 23 16:27:07 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, everyone gets paid to bank acct here and to get cash you have to pay a fee
Mar 23 16:27:17 <jurov>	so it's better to convert to btc outright
Mar 23 16:27:28 <tiberiusiv>	for funds you dont immediately need
Mar 23 16:27:37 <tiberiusiv>	you cant pay for groceries in btc
Mar 23 16:27:41 <tiberiusiv>	what cant you comprehend?
Mar 23 16:28:02 <Namworld>	I pay groceries by converting BTC -> fiat
Mar 23 16:28:06 <jurov>	yes, i convert back from btc only to pay for 2 weeks of groceries
Mar 23 16:28:07 <tiberiusiv>	someone that bought BTC on friday with their entire paycheck, is now down 10%+
Mar 23 16:28:27 <Namworld>	I actually get 100% of my income in BTC
Mar 23 16:28:27 <tiberiusiv>	they have to wait for the price to rebound in time, of which there is no guarantee
Mar 23 16:28:36 <kakobrekla>	look tiberiusiv we understand you are butthurt but calm down, its simple math nothing new to see here, move along
Mar 23 16:29:07 <jurov>	yes, but i believe on average this strategy will be successful
Mar 23 16:29:10 <tiberiusiv>	anyone that followed your advice over the last 2-3 years has either starved to death or forced to take losses for immediate consumption needs jurov.
Mar 23 16:29:21 <jurov>	you did?
Mar 23 16:29:27 <jurov>	so you talk so sure
Mar 23 16:29:32 <awkorama>	jurov: do you have a bitcoin topped debit card or something ?
Mar 23 16:29:49 <tiberiusiv>	a secret one that hes not telling us about
Mar 23 16:29:59 <jurov>	no. but i can convert to bitcoins in 2 days with seap transfer
Mar 23 16:30:02 <jurov>	*sepa
Mar 23 16:30:06 <kakobrekla>	2 hours
Mar 23 16:30:10 <jurov>	and back
Mar 23 16:30:10 <tiberiusiv>	what if the price tanks?
Mar 23 16:30:18 <tiberiusiv>	and you need to pay rent or buy food
Mar 23 16:30:23 <tiberiusiv>	or need immediate cash to buy things
Mar 23 16:30:28 <jurov>	then i either lend fiat
Mar 23 16:30:28 <tiberiusiv>	do you go hungry?
Mar 23 16:30:40 <jurov>	or convert anyway
Mar 23 16:30:51 <tiberiusiv>	as i stated numerous times
Mar 23 16:30:51 *	assbot sets ban on *!*@gateway/tor-sasl/tiberiusiv
Mar 23 16:31:10 <jurov>	because i expect that the rest of my btc investment will make up for that
Mar 23 16:31:24 <jurov>	oooh ban? why?
Mar 23 16:33:16 <smickles>	woah, ban
Mar 23 16:33:19 <smickles>	fairly rare
Mar 23 16:33:37 <kakobrekla>	you know, to be here, you have to be able to grasp price of btc can go down, is all.
Mar 23 16:33:51 <jurov>	so then i should be banned, no?
Mar 23 16:33:55 <jurov>	lol
Mar 23 16:33:59 <kakobrekla>	:p
Mar 23 16:34:08 <kakobrekla>	you get it
Mar 23 16:34:08 <deadweasel>	you can grasp it and still risk it all  :)
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Mar 23 16:36:19 <jurov>	Church of Gresham's Law
Mar 23 16:38:21 <ThickAsThieves>	ouch
Mar 23 16:38:28 <jurov>	and well, if indeed the price falls back to $5.. then i'll get a job, i guess :D
Mar 23 16:38:42 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 23 16:38:58 <kakobrekla>	why would you get a job?
Mar 23 16:39:22 <jurov>	i couldn't be living off coinbr then
Mar 23 16:39:31 <kakobrekla>	hm
Mar 23 16:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00069056 = 2.1407 BTC [+]
Mar 23 16:40:27 <jurov>	at least not with clear conscience, that is.
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Mar 23 16:42:55 <Namworld>	What happened to tiberius? Was muted by assbot?
Mar 23 16:43:10 <deadweasel>	+b
Mar 23 16:43:45 <ThickAsThieves>	he was a good troll though
Mar 23 16:44:13 <Namworld>	I still see tiberius in the room
Mar 23 16:52:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.0018 = 0.18 BTC [+]
Mar 23 16:56:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00069616 = 11.1734 BTC [+]
Mar 23 16:57:06 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 23 16:57:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.10002, Best ask: 61.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24998, Last trade: 61.10001, 24 hour volume: 165900.25850346, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 70.78800, 24 hour vwap: 63.35623
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Mar 23 17:01:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.07 BTC [-]
Mar 23 17:02:56 <Bowjob>	tiber is banned?
Mar 23 17:02:57 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 23 17:03:03 <Bowjob>	i hate that guy
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Mar 23 17:12:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00409 BTC [-]
Mar 23 17:12:54 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 23 17:12:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 62.41109, Best ask: 62.88799, Bid-ask spread: 0.47690, Last trade: 62.84941, 24 hour volume: 159222.47535996, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 70.78800, 24 hour vwap: 63.16369
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Mar 23 17:25:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 70
Mar 23 17:25:15 <gribble>	There are currently 9945.1213 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 678561.252983 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds
Mar 23 17:28:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [+]
Mar 23 17:31:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.108 BTC [+]
Mar 23 17:32:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 60
Mar 23 17:32:54 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Mar 23 17:33:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 60
Mar 23 17:33:04 <gribble>	There are currently 5618.6104 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.0 USD, worth 343256.721569 USD in total. | Data vintage: 9.9809 seconds
Mar 23 17:33:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [+]
Mar 23 17:33:19 <ThickAsThieves>	weak
Mar 23 17:33:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.01401 = 0.028 BTC [+]
Mar 23 17:34:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01401 BTC [+]
Mar 23 17:34:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [-]
Mar 23 17:34:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01625 = 0.1625 BTC [+]
Mar 23 17:34:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 59 @ 0.01989 = 1.1735 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 17:40:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01988 BTC [-]
Mar 23 17:40:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01989 BTC [+]
Mar 23 17:40:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 99 @ 0.0199 = 1.9701 BTC [+]
Mar 23 17:40:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 334 @ 0.019929 = 6.6563 BTC [+]
Mar 23 17:42:27 <Namworld>	I haven't seen Ukto/Topace in a while
Mar 23 17:45:18 <ThickAsThieves>	Ukto is around a lot, just coding i think
Mar 23 17:45:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i think topace said he was taking a break for the weekend
Mar 23 17:47:11 <Namworld>	oh I see
Mar 23 17:47:14 <Namworld>	dammit
Mar 23 17:47:34 <ThickAsThieves>	Ukto chats some in #bitfunder too
Mar 23 17:50:26 <jurov>	and our fellow goat seems to "wonder how shorting a stock on a guys own exchange would work" haha
Mar 23 17:51:00 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.msg1664519#msg1664519
Mar 23 17:51:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16319 @ 0.00069175 = 11.2887 BTC [-]
Mar 23 17:51:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1181 @ 0.00069415 = 0.8198 BTC [+]
Mar 23 17:51:51 <unbalanced>	Namworld, I see you run S.DICE-PT... currently lower than Havelock's SDICE so I wonder could I arb that? I only trade on HI so far but I keep seeing SDICE lower on MPEX and elsewhere so I may need to diversify.
Mar 23 17:52:12 <unbalanced>	Not sure if arbitrage is the right concept, but at least diversification.
Mar 23 17:53:35 <unbalanced>	Correct me if I'm wrong, I could only txfr the bitcoins around, not the SDICE shares between passthroughs?
Mar 23 17:54:55 <unbalanced>	going afk to grab a bite but will swing back later to check logs
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Mar 23 17:56:37 <ThickAsThieves>	you could arb if you owned shares in each location, or if you bought on mpex and trasferred (in some bulk, minimums depends on who youre dealing with, as do fees)
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Mar 23 18:05:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01992 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 18:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.635 = 6.35 BTC [-]
Mar 23 18:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5094 = 2.0376 BTC [+]
Mar 23 18:13:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 18:22:13 <smickles>	unbalanced_away: some of the PT ops allow what is called 'in-kind exchange'
Mar 23 18:22:30 <smickles>	you'd basically need to strike deals with each individual
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Mar 23 18:26:09 <benkay>	stablized somewhat around 63? am I reading this correctly?
Mar 23 18:26:21 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 70
Mar 23 18:26:24 <gribble>	There are currently 11411.366 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 776280.483766 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0026 seconds
Mar 23 18:26:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 60
Mar 23 18:26:24 <gribble>	There are currently 6959.0102 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.0 USD, worth 426621.296056 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.7264 seconds
Mar 23 18:29:47 <smickles>	benkay: I've heard that saying 'stable' or similar causes it to crumble
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Mar 23 18:33:06 <ThickAsThieves>	BFL shipping next week or what?
Mar 23 18:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.635 = 2.54 BTC [-]
Mar 23 18:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00069238 = 12.0474 BTC [-]
Mar 23 18:40:47 <[\\\]>	heh
Mar 23 18:40:52 <[\\\]>	shipping in october, derp
Mar 23 18:40:56 <[\\\]>	how dare oyu question?!
Mar 23 18:41:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P590T] 14 @ 0.07 = 0.98 BTC
Mar 23 18:41:19 <ThickAsThieves>	your name drives me crazy!
Mar 23 18:41:23 <ThickAsThieves>	\\\
Mar 23 18:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.64999999 = 2.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 18:42:42 <[\\\]_b>	oops
Mar 23 18:42:49 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Mar 23 18:43:37 <unbalanced>	Thanks ThickAsThieves, smickles - I didn't think I was ready for the full MPEX but maybe at some point I'll get serious with this.
Mar 23 18:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.64999999 = 2.6 BTC [+]
Mar 23 18:44:12 <unbalanced>	Once I stop consistently doing the wrong thing at the wrong time I can begin to scale up.
Mar 23 18:44:15 <ThickAsThieves>	coinbr.com is an option
Mar 23 18:44:45 <ThickAsThieves>	if you dont wanna pay the mpex fee
Mar 23 18:44:57 <ThickAsThieves>	etc
Mar 23 18:45:15 <unbalanced>	So it's a passthrough not a "fund"
Mar 23 18:45:46 <ThickAsThieves>	https://coinbr.com/ref?c=Q9gPSuUvYS  (referral link)
Mar 23 18:46:11 <unbalanced>	Nothing against the funds... I'd just like to use all available options and buy at the best price each time.
Mar 23 18:46:34 *	[\\\] is now known as forceofevil
Mar 23 18:46:44 <unbalanced>	Thanks for the link, I think I saw one from someone else the other day too but didn't get a chance to follow it that day.
Mar 23 18:46:45 <ThickAsThieves>	so youd want coinbr/mpex, btct.co, bitfunder.com, havelockinvestments.com
Mar 23 18:46:50 <forceofevil>	there ThickAsThieves, I've been renamed.
Mar 23 18:47:14 <ThickAsThieves>	also litecoinglobal.com if you wanna dabble in ltc thru sdice, etc
Mar 23 18:47:33 <unbalanced>	I'm gonna need more bitcoins.
Mar 23 18:47:37 <ThickAsThieves>	thanks!
Mar 23 18:47:47 <ThickAsThieves>	those slashes made reading a chore the other day
Mar 23 18:47:51 <ThickAsThieves>	for me at least
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Mar 23 18:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.52999999 = 4.24 BTC [+]
Mar 23 18:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	who said the magic word
Mar 23 18:49:51 <ThickAsThieves>	tiberius
Mar 23 18:51:57 <benkay>	!r unbalanced_away
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Mar 23 18:53:51 <ThickAsThieves>	see, i'm not crazy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156833.msg1665126#msg1665126
Mar 23 18:53:55 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves> i'm playing a drinking game, every time tiberius quotes a % with authority <<< lol
Mar 23 18:54:14 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
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Mar 23 18:56:01 <jurov>	hi mircea_popescu, another magic world: deposits
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Mar 23 18:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	i think they be done
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Mar 23 18:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/strategic-superiority-the-saga-continues/#comment-92457
Mar 23 18:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	ppl nuking my bad physics
Mar 23 19:01:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Mar 23 19:01:58 <mircea_popescu>	"There is a realistic possibility to me, that S.MPOE is in fact not owned by many actual individuals, rather than by few with multiple forum and bitcoin accounts. So please, consider my offer and be forewarned. I am just a messenger."
Mar 23 19:02:10 <mircea_popescu>	in a sense i suppose as a new guy it's just as good an assumption as any other.
Mar 23 19:02:22 <mircea_popescu>	in principle gavin could be satoshi too
Mar 23 19:02:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7169 @ 0.00069415 = 4.9764 BTC [+]
Mar 23 19:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4782 @ 0.00069569 = 3.3268 BTC [+]
Mar 23 19:02:31 <ThickAsThieves>	or you
Mar 23 19:03:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.525 = 1.575 BTC [-]
Mar 23 19:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, or me.
Mar 23 19:03:56 <jurov>	lol would you be capable to restrain yourself into satoshi's writing style?
Mar 23 19:04:09 <jurov>	i don't think that possible
Mar 23 19:05:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21047 @ 0.00069238 = 14.5725 BTC [-]
Mar 23 19:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00068153 = 0.886 BTC [-]
Mar 23 19:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068152 = 3.4076 BTC [-]
Mar 23 19:05:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6203 @ 0.00068141 = 4.2268 BTC [-]
Mar 23 19:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	what people don't do for moneyz
Mar 23 19:05:59 <mircea_popescu>	i see the silver debate is going well...
Mar 23 19:08:04 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: no pm yet on that offer to help rpietila short s.mpoe
Mar 23 19:08:08 <smickles>	go figure
Mar 23 19:08:18 <ThickAsThieves>	what do you guys think about an IPO consulting service
Mar 23 19:08:27 <smickles>	i think there's money in that
Mar 23 19:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	smickles surprisingly.
Mar 23 19:08:50 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i imagine it will become quite a revenue stream as things develop
Mar 23 19:09:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i have some ideas in the works
Mar 23 19:09:24 <ThickAsThieves>	my strength is a bit more on the marketing side
Mar 23 19:09:26 <ThickAsThieves>	but
Mar 23 19:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	few people understand how to play strategically. putting out the cost to register today and expending the effort to trade/think it through will make you the investment banker of tomorrow.
Mar 23 19:09:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i could enlist more help too
Mar 23 19:09:55 <mircea_popescu>	and i bet you in 2015 there will be idiots joining in a la that estonian dood, all indignant that the powers that be in bitcoin don't give two shits for his second rate irl accomplishments
Mar 23 19:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2 BTC [+]
Mar 23 19:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	because they prefer to promote people who put the time and effort in when it mattered, and already have years' experience recorded.
Mar 23 19:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	and lo and behold how fake and unfair it all is and how it won't survive.
Mar 23 19:10:51 <ThickAsThieves>	part of me wonders if i wouldnt just be facilitating scammers
Mar 23 19:10:51 <mircea_popescu>	except it'll survive just fine, and own their ass into a fine paste until they submit.
Mar 23 19:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	well, don't.
Mar 23 19:10:58 <ThickAsThieves>	but it has to start somewhere
Mar 23 19:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	nah/
Mar 23 19:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
Mar 23 19:11:05 <ThickAsThieves>	the accountability
Mar 23 19:11:16 <ThickAsThieves>	and professionalization
Mar 23 19:11:53 <mircea_popescu>	yiou never have to facilitate scammers.
Mar 23 19:11:53 <ThickAsThieves>	i doubt even 75% of the assets are missing spelling/grammar errors in the prosp
Mar 23 19:12:02 <ThickAsThieves>	(% from tiberius dont sue me!)
Mar 23 19:12:36 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd have to cover my ass too
Mar 23 19:12:52 <ThickAsThieves>	if i give bad advice
Mar 23 19:14:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.829 BTC [+]
Mar 23 19:14:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.834 = 5.004 BTC [+]
Mar 23 19:14:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.834 = 6.672 BTC [+]
Mar 23 19:16:34 <jurov>	well, actually i'm thinking about an IPO (not coinbr) and who could be consultant
Mar 23 19:17:11 <ThickAsThieves>	in your case, you have this whole room
Mar 23 19:17:27 <ThickAsThieves>	surely most of us would help
Mar 23 19:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, i'll be your consultant lol
Mar 23 19:17:31 <jurov>	but that service needs to plug bitcoins in anyway
Mar 23 19:17:57 <jurov>	and i seriously doubt it will be mpex worthy anyway, more like ltc-global
Mar 23 19:18:00 <ThickAsThieves>	mp you'd be a good consultant if you needed the money
Mar 23 19:18:20 <ThickAsThieves>	but i'm pretty sure you dont
Mar 23 19:18:41 <ThickAsThieves>	there so much room for improvement at this point
Mar 23 19:19:51 <mircea_popescu>	i was just offering it as a backstop
Mar 23 19:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	not tryin' to take anyone's bread away.
Mar 23 19:22:05 <jurov>	both creditor and consultant of last resort :)
Mar 23 19:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Mar 23 19:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	universal backstop
Mar 23 19:22:49 <mircea_popescu>	now go away and build shit.
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Mar 23 19:32:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.158 = 0.474 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 19:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.5095 = 25.475 BTC [-]
Mar 23 19:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.5094 = 13.2444 BTC [-]
Mar 23 19:35:21 <mjr_>	nice guys
Mar 23 19:35:40 <mjr_>	by far the best bitcoin channel
Mar 23 19:36:53 <mjr_>	loooking forward to seeing the next diff
Mar 23 19:37:11 <mjr_>	i think petahashes by late summer is very possible
Mar 23 19:37:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1287 @ 0.00068141 = 0.877 BTC [-]
Mar 23 19:38:15 <ThickAsThieves>	here you go! http://mpex.co/?mpsic=X.IDIFF.JUN
Mar 23 19:38:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 23 19:38:58 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6640584.46211 based on data since last change | 7590073.16023 based on data for last three days
Mar 23 19:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	possible.
Mar 23 19:41:25 <ThickAsThieves>	needs to increase at least, what, 25% each difficulty ti make X.IDIFF.JUn profitable?
Mar 23 19:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m x.idiff.jun
Mar 23 19:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.JUN] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  /  /  ( shares,  BTC), 30D: 0.08995 / 0.22998333 / 0.3 (3 shares, 0.69 BTC)
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Mar 23 19:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	$depth x.idiff.jun
Mar 23 19:42:45 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: X.IDIFF.JUN Bids: ['149 @ 0.08995']
Mar 23 19:42:47 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['60 @ 0.24995', '8 @ 0.45', '30 @ 0.775']
Mar 23 19:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	has to triple practically.
Mar 23 19:43:32 <ThickAsThieves>	6 or 7 diff changes til then
Mar 23 19:44:25 <jurov>	but it will expire long before then
Mar 23 19:45:59 <jurov>	so i'm not sure if i buy at 0.24995 it will be significantly profitable at all
Mar 23 19:46:17 <ThickAsThieves>	pretty risky
Mar 23 19:46:56 <jurov>	and mp refuses to reveal the backing, don't remember why
Mar 23 19:48:22 <ThickAsThieves>	?
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Mar 23 19:49:32 <jurov>	i mean, if the difficulty oversteps the collateral, idiff expires automatically
Mar 23 19:49:45 <jurov>	but you don't know the collateral, you can only guess
Mar 23 19:49:48 <EPiSKiNG->	;;seen cusipzzz
Mar 23 19:49:49 <gribble>	I have not seen cusipzzz.
Mar 23 19:50:41 <jurov>	so i introduced https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-E that has known max cover beforehand
Mar 23 19:51:01 <jurov>	and it seems quite successful, 381 shares sold so far (arounf 0.1 each)
Mar 23 19:51:10 <ThickAsThieves>	oh i assumed it worked like yours
Mar 23 19:51:17 <ThickAsThieves>	havent bought mpex's yet
Mar 23 19:51:50 <ThickAsThieves>	the description says a date of exp
Mar 23 19:51:55 <ThickAsThieves>	liek yours does
Mar 23 19:52:04 <jurov>	aside from the cover difference, mine expire much sooner
Mar 23 19:52:11 <jurov>	in 2 months
Mar 23 19:53:15 <ThickAsThieves>	right, i like that better
Mar 23 19:53:40 <ThickAsThieves>	having it available monthly is cleaner
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Mar 23 19:54:41 <jurov>	also it has interesting psychological effect, when i raised iDiff-O backing to 0.3BTC max, someone asked whether it's prediction
Mar 23 19:54:54 <jurov>	maybe it was you ThickAsThieves, no?
Mar 23 19:55:10 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Mar 23 19:55:28 <ThickAsThieves>	i just look to see if i think i might have a chance at 10% or so
Mar 23 19:55:35 <jurov>	ofc it isn't a prediction. the price i sell them is a prediction+healthy margin
Mar 23 19:56:08 <jurov>	but it helps sales anyway i guess :)
Mar 23 19:56:28 <ThickAsThieves>	exposes you more too, but at least its only monthly
Mar 23 19:56:35 <ThickAsThieves>	much more manageable
Mar 23 19:56:38 <jurov>	yes
Mar 23 19:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	should be manageable with a little care.
Mar 23 19:58:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00067591 = 9.1248 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 20:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.62 = 2.48 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 20:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 20:22:23 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 23 20:22:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.38154, Best ask: 63.79372, Bid-ask spread: 0.41218, Last trade: 63.00000, 24 hour volume: 150392.80612442, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 70.50250, 24 hour vwap: 62.64420
Mar 23 20:23:11 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 23 20:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.26732239 / 68.67982696 / 69.97754937 (21630 shares, 6,022.77 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 23 20:25:57 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: "I've always wanted to try my hand at investing, but I don't have much "spare" money, and am currently not working at all. BTCs are offering me an opportunity to not only invest starting small, but learn so much about international monetary policy, trading, markets & so forth. The BTC community here on Reddit is amazing (minus the inevitable trolls of course), and probably the most helpful and sincere group of people I've come a
Mar 23 20:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	win.
Mar 23 20:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 20:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2 BTC [+]
Mar 23 20:32:35 <benkay>	whoever that is isn't an accredited investor
Mar 23 20:32:42 <benkay>	they're going to get RUINED
Mar 23 20:32:49 <benkay>	someone make some laws to protect them from themselves
Mar 23 20:33:00 <thestringpuller>	THAT'S WHAT WE NEED MORE REGULATION
Mar 23 20:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	let the guy enjoy his money eh
Mar 23 20:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.53 = 2.65 BTC [+]
Mar 23 20:33:10 <benkay>	MOAR REGS
Mar 23 20:33:12 <thestringpuller>	This guy is a genius. Lets invest 5000 BTC in benkay right now.
Mar 23 20:33:26 <benkay>	?
Mar 23 20:33:30 <benkay>	i don't take dumb money.
Mar 23 20:33:32 <thestringpuller>	I will call up congress right now.
Mar 23 20:33:57 <benkay>	do you bring something to investor/dev rel'n beyond cash?
Mar 23 20:34:03 <thestringpuller>	"We need you to regulate Bitcoin for us. A system that is not backed by any government to protect themselves from themselves"
Mar 23 20:34:13 <thestringpuller>	I work for a payment processor.
Mar 23 20:34:18 <thestringpuller>	Central Banks are a scam.
Mar 23 20:34:28 <benkay>	homes I was makin teh funnies.
Mar 23 20:34:49 <thestringpuller>	Me too. Don't tell my employer I said that. :P
Mar 23 20:34:51 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Mar 23 20:35:03 <benkay>	i really feel for you real processors
Mar 23 20:35:04 <benkay>	pci
Mar 23 20:35:09 <benkay>	kyc
Mar 23 20:35:11 <thestringpuller>	LOLOLOLOL
Mar 23 20:35:12 <benkay>	aml
Mar 23 20:35:25 <jurov>	that's why satoshidice has ad on reddit
Mar 23 20:35:28 <benkay>	the pretend money space is so much more relaxed
Mar 23 20:35:54 <thestringpuller>	It's not so much pretend money anymore.
Mar 23 20:35:56 <mircea_popescu>	ya just fml here.
Mar 23 20:35:57 <benkay>	and by relaxed i mean that instead of worrying about governments one worries about everyone
Mar 23 20:35:57 <ThickAsThieves>	did erik ever get any response from rkoi?
Mar 23 20:36:01 <jurov>	"Win Bitcoins while stress testing the network" ftw
Mar 23 20:36:19 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 23 20:36:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0044444 / 0.0044444 / 0.0044444 (100 shares, 0.44 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00441309 / 0.005598 (312412 shares, 1,378.70 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00545082 / 0.00638999 (1286541 shares, 7,012.71 BTC)
Mar 23 20:36:26 <thestringpuller>	wow, when did that happen?
Mar 23 20:37:39 <ThickAsThieves>	abstractly speaking i've considered in the past that as a species we should spend some effort figuring out ways to make society more adaptable to paradigm shifts
Mar 23 20:37:52 <benkay>	+1
Mar 23 20:38:07 <benkay>	gotta get some flex in the regulatory apparatuses
Mar 23 20:38:44 <benkay>	and philosophically speaking, ossification of power systems is a monotonic thing
Mar 23 20:38:49 <ThickAsThieves>	good example being how the internet gutted business, or globalization, etc
Mar 23 20:39:09 <mircea_popescu>	"win hickeys while stresstesting my cock"
Mar 23 20:39:12 <ThickAsThieves>	changes that are bigger than just one state or country
Mar 23 20:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	sounds totally legit this. why didn't i think of it
Mar 23 20:39:33 <benkay>	"stress testing my cock"
Mar 23 20:39:35 <benkay>	does not sound fun.
Mar 23 20:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 23 20:40:03 <benkay>	i hear stress test, I think
Mar 23 20:40:27 <benkay>	http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/2010/03/index-660x439.jpg
Mar 23 20:40:28 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 70
Mar 23 20:40:30 <gribble>	There are currently 11864.004 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 806882.964797 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0029 seconds
Mar 23 20:40:33 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 60
Mar 23 20:40:33 <gribble>	There are currently 7816.305 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.0 USD, worth 479145.312198 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.9141 seconds
Mar 23 20:40:45 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 67
Mar 23 20:40:45 <gribble>	There are currently 3204.9602 bitcoins offered at or under 67.0 USD, worth 210775.267292 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.9539 seconds
Mar 23 20:40:49 <benkay>	and do not want ;)
Mar 23 20:41:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
Mar 23 20:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
Mar 23 20:41:23 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Mar 23 20:41:25 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.99999987 / 1.99999996 / 2.00000000 (3 shares, 5.99999987 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.9774827 / 2.00000000 (133 shares, 263.00519931 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 2.32302446 / 18.00000000 (554 shares, 1286.95555166 BTC)
Mar 23 20:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	benkay i dunno what vaginas you've been to...
Mar 23 20:42:07 <benkay>	stress test != flight test
Mar 23 20:42:15 <benkay>	or production test
Mar 23 20:42:40 <benkay>	stress test can burn up the drives on a poorly set up cluster
Mar 23 20:42:50 <benkay>	you know, overload load balancer
Mar 23 20:42:53 <benkay>	if even extant
Mar 23 20:43:01 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 23 20:43:01 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 34 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <smickles> i think there's money in that
Mar 23 20:43:27 <benkay>	i'm always down for behavioral tests
Mar 23 20:43:33 <benkay>	UI tests
Mar 23 20:43:43 <benkay>	"look and feel and fit"
Mar 23 20:43:46 <benkay>	heh.
Mar 23 20:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 23 20:44:21 <benkay>	i'm eager to know what kind of stress tests you want performed on your dick
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Mar 23 20:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	mostly crush pressure.
Mar 23 20:45:06 <KRS1>	heh
Mar 23 20:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	also shear.
Mar 23 20:45:19 <mjr_>	shear lol
Mar 23 20:45:34 <mjr_>	i'd rather use my dick to stress test a vagina
Mar 23 20:45:37 <benkay>	http://www.dtu.dk/upload/cesdyn/common%20figures/course-11702/concretebeam-2.gif
Mar 23 20:45:40 <KRS1>	i'd go for the vibration test
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Mar 23 20:46:06 <KRS1>	hey mircea u have any more gore
Mar 23 20:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	umm
Mar 23 20:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	i tell you sir we here at house of mircea have no gore
Mar 23 20:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	no gore at all.
Mar 23 20:46:37 <KRS1>	damn
Mar 23 20:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.53 = 7.95 BTC [+]
Mar 23 20:47:08 <benkay>	http://goo.gl/pAKZ5
Mar 23 20:47:17 <benkay>	deep gore
Mar 23 20:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 140 @ 0.53 = 74.2 BTC [+]
Mar 23 20:48:03 <benkay>	jubilant gore
Mar 23 20:48:04 <benkay>	goo.gl/uT3ak
Mar 23 20:48:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.848 = 8.48 BTC [+]
Mar 23 20:48:49 <KRS1>	A man's anus is e licked like ice cream. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On3etueeGIg
Mar 23 20:48:54 <Namworld>	I've added Havelock Investments to my spreadsheet tools
Mar 23 20:49:14 <Namworld>	for self-updating portfolio
Mar 23 20:49:30 <mjr_>	nice Namworld
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Mar 23 20:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
Mar 23 20:54:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 21:02:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00983 = 0.0197 BTC [-]
Mar 23 21:02:31 <ThickAsThieves>	is that spreadsheet available in editable format?
Mar 23 21:02:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00366 = 0.0732 BTC [-]
Mar 23 21:02:48 <thestringpuller>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AiL-WhkVfu89dGZSOWVSOWwwak9UVi1NM2lxdnU5U0E&output=html
Mar 23 21:02:52 <thestringpuller>	yea ^
Mar 23 21:02:53 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 23 21:02:55 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227700 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 107 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 11 hours, 46 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6643433.27569 | Estimated Percent Change: 37.04449
Mar 23 21:04:01 <ThickAsThieves>	:P
Mar 23 21:04:02 <thestringpuller>	WHOA
Mar 23 21:04:33 <ThickAsThieves>	whoa what?
Mar 23 21:04:44 <thestringpuller>	difficulty estimate
Mar 23 21:04:49 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Mar 23 21:04:57 <ThickAsThieves>	been heading there for a few days
Mar 23 21:04:59 <thestringpuller>	if it keeps like that diff futures may be profit worthy
Mar 23 21:05:12 <mjr_>	yep
Mar 23 21:05:36 <mjr_>	if these helveticoin guys turn out to be legit...
Mar 23 21:05:41 <mjr_>	could be crazy high
Mar 23 21:07:47 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 23 21:07:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.60681, Best ask: 63.60682, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 63.60681, 24 hour volume: 150365.18509571, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 70.16398, 24 hour vwap: 62.60693
Mar 23 21:08:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 70
Mar 23 21:08:38 <gribble>	There are currently 12199.101 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 829607.232292 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0026 seconds
Mar 23 21:09:56 <Namworld>	man, getting the amount of each shares, average price and balance on each stock exchange feels neat
Mar 23 21:11:27 <mjr_>	Namworld: can i get the link again?
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Mar 23 21:12:26 <Namworld>	there's no link
Mar 23 21:12:41 <Namworld>	I need to republish the updated script
Mar 23 21:14:02 <mjr_>	ah ok
Mar 23 21:14:14 <mjr_>	looking forward to trying it out
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Mar 23 21:19:13 <Namworld>	lotta functions in there. Many different APIs
Mar 23 21:19:30 <Namworld>	and each api has different urls for different kinds of data
Mar 23 21:20:09 <mjr_>	it integrates with coinbr?
Mar 23 21:20:39 <jurov>	i guess not
Mar 23 21:21:24 <jurov>	coinbr has no api yet
Mar 23 21:21:32 <mjr_>	ah i see
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Mar 23 21:23:52 <kakobrekla>	!r unbalanced
Mar 23 21:25:25 <Namworld>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140427.0
Mar 23 21:25:31 <Namworld>	Here it is, v0.3
Mar 23 21:25:47 <Namworld>	yeah, coinbr/Bitfunder don't have API yet so I haven't included that
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Mar 23 21:27:04 <jurov>	iirc, you had something for options too?
Mar 23 21:27:19 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 23 21:27:19 <mjr_>	very cool...
Mar 23 21:27:33 <Namworld>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGxfRk5SS0hxT1lsVmdLdU1QY0RveGc#gid=6
Mar 23 21:27:38 <Namworld>	For options
Mar 23 21:28:03 <jurov>	cool! i tried and partially succeeded to import mpex option prices into gdoc, but felt like terrible hack
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Mar 23 21:30:19 <Namworld>	Quite extensive data on options and their value if price reach X
Mar 23 21:32:17 <mjr_>	Namworld: what do you use as the current price?
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Mar 23 21:33:27 <jurov>	mjr_ mpex uses vwap from bitcoincharts
Mar 23 21:33:52 <jurov>	aaaah it's down
Mar 23 21:34:33 <jurov>	namworld seem to use mtgox only
Mar 23 21:34:39 <smickles>	Namworld: you should use bitcoinchart's whole marked 24h vwap for the current pric3e
Mar 23 21:35:40 <Namworld>	I guess
Mar 23 21:35:54 <Namworld>	I already fetch that for the MPEx options
Mar 23 21:35:57 <smickles>	all calls are worthless!
Mar 23 21:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00067242 = 3.6311 BTC [-]
Mar 23 21:36:37 <jurov>	smickles, that isn't exactly namworld's problem :)
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Mar 23 21:39:13 <Namworld>	possibly because expected price is set at 1 USD/BTC
Mar 23 21:39:38 <Namworld>	Edit it, it's the only non-protected spac
Mar 23 21:39:48 <Namworld>	fun to play with
Mar 23 21:39:50 <smickles>	Namworld: also, strike/spot isn't the formula to calc the escrow for puts, there's some kind of addition related to volatility in there
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Mar 23 21:42:47 <Namworld>	I don't recall that.
Mar 23 21:43:55 <smickles>	maybe it's just for splits
Mar 23 21:44:47 <mjr_>	its also useful to evaluate current ask vs exercise
Mar 23 21:46:11 <smickles>	maybe it's changed to, but when automatically running SPLITs, I wasn't able to predict the number of put produced with any confidence
Mar 23 21:47:16 <smickles>	I complained to mircea, and the answer, after some good discussion, was essentially 'deal with it'
Mar 23 21:47:32 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 23 21:47:33 <Namworld>	>.>
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Mar 23 21:48:34 <Namworld>	http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww155/Jlocoyote/deal-with-it.gif
Mar 23 21:51:36 <Namworld>	ok, I'll be off for a bit
Mar 23 21:51:41 <smickles>	c'ya
Mar 23 21:56:32 <smickles>	75/72
Mar 23 21:56:37 <smickles>	;;calc 75/72
Mar 23 21:56:37 <gribble>	1.04166666667
Mar 23 21:57:59 <smickles>	yeah, even recently, a split|c750t|3 got 1 call and 0 puts, even though the strike/spot alone would've allowed it
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Mar 23 22:01:13 <smickles>	oh, wait
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Mar 23 22:01:26 <smickles>	;;calc 75/47.4
Mar 23 22:01:26 <gribble>	1.58227848101
Mar 23 22:01:36 <smickles>	hmm, maybe it's different now
Mar 23 22:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.64888888 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 22:20:57 <Namworld>	Splits are complicated
Mar 23 22:22:11 <Namworld>	Splits the amount evenly but calls/puts have different escrow amounts
Mar 23 22:22:18 <Namworld>	It's annoying
Mar 23 22:22:29 <Namworld>	Would be nicer if split 1 was 1 call 1 put
Mar 23 22:22:50 <Namworld>	and you need enough escrow for both to split it
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Mar 23 22:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2 BTC [+]
Mar 23 22:27:52 <unbalanced>	kakobrekla, a google search on "assbot commands" and a PM from benkay finally clued me in on what !r meant. Sorry for the noise, thanks for the heads' up
Mar 23 22:28:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.343 BTC [+]
Mar 23 22:28:13 <unbalanced>	heads up? head, s'up?
Mar 23 22:28:30 <benkay>	heads up
Mar 23 22:28:32 <benkay>	artillery
Mar 23 22:28:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34399 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 22:29:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 12 @ 0.344 = 4.128 BTC [+]
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Mar 23 22:29:45 <unbalanced>	Has anyone written a book on Bitcoin yet?
Mar 23 22:30:17 <unbalanced>	Not a "Bitcoin For Dummies" but more like The Big Short (which was awesome btw)
Mar 23 22:30:26 <unbalanced>	IMHO
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Mar 23 22:31:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0199 = 0.1592 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:31:45 <unbalanced>	Ah a few on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/191-3344788-1759010?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=bitcoin
Mar 23 22:32:23 <benkay>	"books"
Mar 23 22:33:09 <benkay>	damn kids
Mar 23 22:33:37 <benkay>	bet you could write a better one, unbalanced
Mar 23 22:33:43 <benkay>	"implications of a cryptocurrency economy"
Mar 23 22:33:56 <benkay>	start with no forced taxation
Mar 23 22:34:10 <benkay>	end with child pr0n
Mar 23 22:34:16 <benkay>	make us proud.
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Mar 23 22:40:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8445 = 1.689 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:41:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 87 @ 0.009823 = 0.8546 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:41:04 <Bugpowder>	Tesla or S7?
Mar 23 22:43:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.009822 = 0.0393 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:43:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 112 @ 0.009821 = 1.1 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:43:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.009821 = 0.0393 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:45:53 <benkay>	the saleen?
Mar 23 22:45:54 <unbalanced>	I drove alongside a Tesla Roadster once... it was Mazda Miata sized, really tiny.
Mar 23 22:46:00 <benkay>	or audi
Mar 23 22:46:08 <benkay>	the tesla s is a station wagon
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Mar 23 22:46:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 34 @ 0.00982 = 0.3339 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:46:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 48 @ 0.00982 = 0.4714 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:46:37 <benkay>	took a test drive in one
Mar 23 22:46:38 <unbalanced>	Definitely prefer the Tesla S
Mar 23 22:46:44 <benkay>	wat
Mar 23 22:46:55 <benkay>	on grounds of electric drivetrain i agree
Mar 23 22:47:02 <benkay>	on grounds of mommy mobile i disagree
Mar 23 22:47:44 <benkay>	yahmean?
Mar 23 22:48:13 <unbalanced>	I want an electric car period.
Mar 23 22:48:59 <Bugpowder>	Model S
Mar 23 22:49:06 <benkay>	so much wat
Mar 23 22:49:11 <Bugpowder>	The Model S is a bit more expensive
Mar 23 22:49:23 <benkay>	just wait five years, overly enthusiastic bros
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Mar 23 22:49:45 <benkay>	you'll have high-performance, lightweight electric sports cars at a reasonable price
Mar 23 22:50:09 <benkay>	not the mass-market childbukkit that is the tesla s
Mar 23 22:50:10 <unbalanced>	You expect major battery wins in that time? Or other innovations?
Mar 23 22:50:23 <benkay>	just wider market adoption
Mar 23 22:50:26 <benkay>	production ramp
Mar 23 22:50:30 <benkay>	old mass manu story
Mar 23 22:50:38 <Bugpowder>	Model S is superfast off the line
Mar 23 22:50:40 <Bugpowder>	3.9s
Mar 23 22:50:40 <benkay>	battery's great on the s
Mar 23 22:50:45 <benkay>	performance is great on the s
Mar 23 22:50:49 <Bugpowder>	but the S7 is 3.9 as well
Mar 23 22:50:54 <benkay>	but it's a bloody station wagon
Mar 23 22:51:01 <benkay>	imagine the performance from a dedicated sports chassis
Mar 23 22:51:04 <Bugpowder>	benkay: its the size of an S7
Mar 23 22:51:07 <Bugpowder>	very similar
Mar 23 22:51:09 <benkay>	on the outside
Mar 23 22:51:14 <benkay>	on the inside it feels like a volvo
Mar 23 22:51:17 <unbalanced>	"Sport Wagon"
Mar 23 22:51:29 <benkay>	i may put the woman and our spawn in an s
Mar 23 22:51:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 225 @ 0.000677 = 0.1523 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:51:35 <benkay>	but i'd rather drive my suburban
Mar 23 22:51:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 18 @ 0.000677 = 0.0122 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:51:35 <Bugpowder>	I drive a volvo
Mar 23 22:51:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 345 @ 0.000677 = 0.2336 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:51:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000677 = 0.0677 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:51:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.000676 = 0.338 BTC [-]
Mar 23 22:51:43 <Bugpowder>	The new S60
Mar 23 22:51:46 <Bugpowder>	its very nice
Mar 23 22:51:50 <benkay>	it's the tactical thermonuclear warhead of the road
Mar 23 22:52:02 <Bugpowder>	bit not really suitable for a BITCAR
Mar 23 22:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.65 = 3.25 BTC [+]
Mar 23 22:52:15 <benkay>	what's a bitcar?
Mar 23 22:53:45 <Bugpowder>	a car bought with bitcoin profits
Mar 23 22:53:49 <Bugpowder>	:)
Mar 23 22:55:22 <Bugpowder>	The only worry with S7 is only seats 4
Mar 23 22:55:30 <Bugpowder>	Only have 1 kid
Mar 23 22:55:37 <Bugpowder>	but maybe someday will have 3
Mar 23 22:55:46 <benkay>	then you want a tesla s
Mar 23 22:55:49 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 23 22:55:53 <Bugpowder>	seats 7
Mar 23 22:55:56 <benkay>	for all my harping, it's a great family car.
Mar 23 22:56:02 <Bugpowder>	with the buckets
Mar 23 22:56:05 <benkay>	more performant than basically anything in its class
Mar 23 22:56:10 <Bugpowder>	err jumpseats in back
Mar 23 22:56:16 <benkay>	ikwym
Mar 23 22:56:20 <Bugpowder>	I think I will testdrive both and decide
Mar 23 22:56:32 <Bugpowder>	Hopefully coins will keep going up
Mar 23 22:56:44 <Bugpowder>	and I don't have to cash everything to get it
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Mar 23 22:57:41 <Bugpowder>	[22:51] <benkay> but i'd rather drive my suburban
Mar 23 22:57:43 <Bugpowder>	what?
Mar 23 22:57:48 <Bugpowder>	like a chevy?
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Mar 23 22:59:05 <benkay>	:D
Mar 23 22:59:18 <benkay>	dont cash your coins for status symbols man
Mar 23 22:59:29 <benkay>	live wiffin yo meens
Mar 23 22:59:41 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 23 22:59:49 <Bugpowder>	I am cashing my coins brah
Mar 23 22:59:55 <Bugpowder>	I will rebuy after the crash
Mar 23 23:00:31 <Bugpowder>	where the fuck did the mpex options bot go?  I need to buy some calls
Mar 23 23:01:02 <benkay>	"crash" is transient thing
Mar 23 23:01:05 <benkay>	hold for ten years
Mar 23 23:01:27 <Bugpowder>	I plan on keeping a nice stockpile
Mar 23 23:01:30 <benkay>	fiat-cost average
Mar 23 23:01:36 <benkay>	increase your stockpile, don't draw it down
Mar 23 23:01:41 <benkay>	y u make satoshi cry?
Mar 23 23:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.53 = 1.06 BTC [+]
Mar 23 23:05:03 <ThickAsThieves>	selling now?
Mar 23 23:05:07 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Mar 23 23:05:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 23 23:05:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.14710, Best ask: 64.14711, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 64.14710, 24 hour volume: 151019.97647848, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 69.83999, 24 hour vwap: 62.53779
Mar 23 23:05:44 <Bugpowder>	nah
Mar 23 23:05:51 <Bugpowder>	never sell on a saturday nigh
Mar 23 23:05:57 <Bugpowder>	sell on friday mornings
Mar 23 23:06:10 <Bugpowder>	buy on sat night
Mar 23 23:06:10 <ThickAsThieves>	or 10% after new ATH
Mar 23 23:06:31 <Bugpowder>	I just don't want to stay up for the vwap to drop
Mar 23 23:06:42 <Bugpowder>	guess I will set an alarm
Mar 23 23:07:00 <benkay>	just
Mar 23 23:07:03 <benkay>	don't
Mar 23 23:07:05 <benkay>	sell
Mar 23 23:07:11 <benkay>	this from the kid writing trading software
Mar 23 23:07:32 <Bugpowder>	dude
Mar 23 23:07:42 <Bugpowder>	I started with $3000 of coins
Mar 23 23:07:49 <Bugpowder>	I now have an insane number
Mar 23 23:07:54 <Bugpowder>	I want a bitcar
Mar 23 23:08:15 <Bugpowder>	not mircea insane
Mar 23 23:08:33 <Bugpowder>	but like, hey whoa, this exceeeded my expectations level
Mar 23 23:09:06 <ThickAsThieves>	like bitcar sized
Mar 23 23:09:15 <Bugpowder>	the psychic cost of not extracting some fiat value if it did crash would be terrible
Mar 23 23:09:53 <Bugpowder>	buying calls when it broke thru 50, and selling them yesterday morning was also awesome
Mar 23 23:10:25 <Bugpowder>	when rosanne barr is tweeting about bitcoins, its time to take a little off the table
Mar 23 23:10:40 <Bugpowder>	getting close to the shoeshine boys
Mar 23 23:12:52 <benkay>	you must be old
Mar 23 23:12:55 <benkay>	;)
Mar 23 23:13:36 <unbalanced>	Nah he's just read his Livermore
Mar 23 23:13:47 <unbalanced>	Congrats Bugpowder
Mar 23 23:14:04 <unbalanced>	Prob to both of you
Mar 23 23:14:56 <Namworld>	I'm bad at options
Mar 23 23:15:00 <benkay>	just referring to the aging human's desire to avoid volatility in asset value and the young human's tolerance for high amounts of risk
Mar 23 23:15:45 <Namworld>	risk/volatility... don't really matter alone.
Mar 23 23:15:54 <Namworld>	the risk/reward ratio matters
Mar 23 23:16:23 <Namworld>	That's about impossible to calculate definitly however so... bummer.
Mar 23 23:17:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00067242 = 8.4725 BTC [-]
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Mar 23 23:18:38 <benkay>	I have no idea about their underlying meaning, Namworld, all I know is that in my experience, the older one is, the less one can tolerate volatility. Predictability and safety become paramount the closer one comes to the end of one's natural lifespan (which makes no sense to me, as I think one should be more defensive of the long span during ones youth and then engage in more risky behaviors…)
Mar 23 23:18:50 <benkay>	but i r idiots, and young to boot
Mar 23 23:18:58 <benkay>	and always interested in different perspectives
Mar 23 23:19:57 <Bugpowder>	early 30s
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Mar 23 23:20:52 <benkay>	did you ever have a dog?
Mar 23 23:21:00 <benkay>	before teh kid
Mar 23 23:21:04 <Bugpowder>	no
Mar 23 23:21:18 <Bugpowder>	wife did
Mar 23 23:21:27 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 23 23:21:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.00000, Best ask: 65.10354, Bid-ask spread: 0.10354, Last trade: 65.00000, 24 hour volume: 150927.46164429, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 69.83999, 24 hour vwap: 62.53117
Mar 23 23:21:49 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 23 23:21:50 <gribble>	7.737754 seconds
Mar 23 23:21:54 <benkay>	^^feature
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Mar 23 23:28:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm betting 67 soon
Mar 23 23:28:50 <Bugpowder>	yah
Mar 23 23:29:06 <Bugpowder>	I think we test 75 again within the next 3 days
Mar 23 23:29:14 <Bugpowder>	time for calls
Mar 23 23:29:48 <Bugpowder>	where is the botttt
Mar 23 23:30:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00409 = 0.0327 BTC [+]
Mar 23 23:31:41 <benkay>	would someone explain what the bot does?
Mar 23 23:32:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 43 @ 0.004159 = 0.1788 BTC [+]
Mar 23 23:32:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00419 = 0.419 BTC [+]
Mar 23 23:32:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 66 @ 0.004195 = 0.2769 BTC [+]
Mar 23 23:32:55 <Bugpowder>	provides liquidity
Mar 23 23:33:18 <Bugpowder>	puts 1000 contracts up for sale and bid at every strike
Mar 23 23:33:33 <smickles>	Bugpowder: i've been reading the log, you should take some profit while there is profit to be had
Mar 23 23:33:53 <benkay>	actually
Mar 23 23:33:56 <benkay>	bp i'll buy your coins
Mar 23 23:34:05 <benkay>	hard cash deposited to us bank account of your choice
Mar 23 23:34:06 <smickles>	i'll reiterate, /some/ not all profit ;)
Mar 23 23:34:52 <smickles>	i got a new computer out of this recent profit taking for myself
Mar 23 23:34:54 <smickles>	:D
Mar 23 23:35:17 <smickles>	and less debt on the family car :D :D
Mar 23 23:37:04 <Bugpowder>	I have sold ~35%
Mar 23 23:37:07 <smickles>	i'm selling some calls at 31 and 75
Mar 23 23:37:21 <Bugpowder>	I want 610s
Mar 23 23:37:25 <Bugpowder>	and 630s
Mar 23 23:38:36 <Bugpowder>	did the options bot reach maximum exposure?
Mar 23 23:38:39 <Bugpowder>	I doubt it
Mar 23 23:38:50 <smickles>	is mpoebot still not back up?
Mar 23 23:39:21 <Bugpowder>	its missing right now
Mar 23 23:39:24 <smickles>	so i'm the whole options market right now
Mar 23 23:39:32 <Bugpowder>	It was up for a few minutes about 20 minutes ago
Mar 23 23:40:11 <smickles>	too bad i don't have, ya know, 100000 btc to throw at my bot and replace mpoebot
Mar 23 23:40:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.1068912 = 106.8912 BTC [+]
Mar 23 23:41:03 <smickles>	seems back now
Mar 23 23:41:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.08829573 = 88.2957 BTC [+]
Mar 23 23:41:24 <Bugpowder>	yup
Mar 23 23:42:00 <smickles>	;;calc 61/(1-.1068)
Mar 23 23:42:01 <gribble>	68.2937751903
Mar 23 23:42:15 <smickles>	;;calc 63/(1-.08829)
Mar 23 23:42:15 <gribble>	69.1009202488
Mar 23 23:42:24 <Bugpowder>	thank you smickles
Mar 23 23:42:35 <smickles>	heh, np
Mar 23 23:42:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C590T] 1000 @ 0.12822123 = 128.2212 BTC
Mar 23 23:43:04 <smickles>	;;calc 59/(1-.12822)
Mar 23 23:43:04 <gribble>	67.6776250889
Mar 23 23:43:12 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Mar 23 23:43:17 <Bugpowder>	much safer
Mar 23 23:43:46 <Namworld>	are you sure we weren't at the top and this slight regain wasn't the bull trap?
Mar 23 23:44:02 <Namworld>	I'm forever short and losing xD
Mar 23 23:45:12 <smickles>	well, my bot bought back in at 55 after selling at 72
Mar 23 23:45:28 <smickles>	hasn't done much since
Mar 23 23:45:58 <Bugpowder>	I had orders at 52.13, missed the bottom by 20 cents
Mar 23 23:46:06 <smickles>	damn
Mar 23 23:46:11 <smickles>	good call tho
Mar 23 23:46:32 <Bugpowder>	I missed the fill
Mar 23 23:46:34 <Bugpowder>	:(
Mar 23 23:46:53 <Bugpowder>	Namworld: I am not sure of anything in bitcoinland
Mar 23 23:47:06 <benkay>	/msg smickles
Mar 23 23:47:09 <benkay>	?
Mar 23 23:47:14 <smickles>	good job :)
Mar 23 23:47:18 <Bugpowder>	But I think the odds are that we go up, rather than down
Mar 23 23:47:27 <Bugpowder>	this week, from this level
Mar 23 23:47:37 <smickles>	heh, it's just a question of how long you have to hold it
Mar 23 23:47:45 <Bugpowder>	not really
Mar 23 23:47:52 <Bugpowder>	this whole thing could collapse
Mar 23 23:47:59 <Bugpowder>	really it could
Mar 23 23:48:26 <ThickAsThieves>	just takes one tricky fork
Mar 23 23:49:01 <Bugpowder>	even small things can set off a stampede for the exits
Mar 23 23:49:05 <Bugpowder>	don't be last
Mar 23 23:49:18 <Bugpowder>	but don't miss the encores
Mar 23 23:49:22 <Bugpowder>	either
Mar 23 23:49:23 <Namworld>	I bought lots of USD based income stocks =/
Mar 23 23:49:30 <Namworld>	But also BTC based income stuff...
Mar 23 23:49:31 <Bugpowder>	night night
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Mar 23 23:49:54 <Namworld>	I feel like both way, I'll like the direction the price is taking.
Mar 23 23:50:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i just like that it recovers from dips
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Mar 23 23:52:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.844 BTC [-]
Mar 23 23:52:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.844 BTC [-]
Mar 23 23:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2 BTC [+]
Mar 23 23:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [+]
Mar 23 23:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 00:02:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [+]
Mar 24 00:02:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 00:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.65 = 2.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 00:13:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00067479 = 3.3402 BTC [+]
Mar 24 00:13:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.0006748 = 1.5183 BTC [+]
Mar 24 00:20:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.65 = 3.25 BTC [+]
Mar 24 00:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6969 BTC [+]
Mar 24 00:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.6969 = 10.4535 BTC [+]
Mar 24 00:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.6975 = 3.4875 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 00:27:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.844446 BTC [+]
Mar 24 00:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.698 = 1.396 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 00:31:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.004299 = 0.215 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 00:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6457 @ 0.00067242 = 4.3418 BTC [-]
Mar 24 00:34:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.698 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 01:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.698 BTC [+]
Mar 24 01:18:47 <ThickAsThieves>	almost hit 67
Mar 24 01:18:54 <ThickAsThieves>	then dies again
Mar 24 01:18:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 24 01:18:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.27002, Best ask: 65.74998, Bid-ask spread: 0.47996, Last trade: 65.27001, 24 hour volume: 151533.00715985, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 69.50000, 24 hour vwap: 62.50644
Mar 24 01:22:55 <Namworld>	Check the depth chart: http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Mar 24 01:23:15 <Namworld>	I could sell or buy 50 BTC and move the price like 2-3 USD/BTC each time
Mar 24 01:24:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;asks 70
Mar 24 01:24:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;bids 60
Mar 24 01:24:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 70
Mar 24 01:24:14 <gribble>	There are currently 8471.7007 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 582426.572952 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds
Mar 24 01:24:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 60
Mar 24 01:24:16 <gribble>	There are currently 10942.575 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.0 USD, worth 678862.983356 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1.5785 seconds
Mar 24 01:26:34 <Namworld>	;;asks 67
Mar 24 01:26:36 <gribble>	There are currently 607.04394 bitcoins offered at or under 67.0 USD, worth 40340.2105938 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds
Mar 24 01:26:40 <Namworld>	;;bids 65
Mar 24 01:26:40 <gribble>	There are currently 136.18764 bitcoins demanded at or over 65.0 USD, worth 8882.31909539 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.6825 seconds
Mar 24 01:27:02 <Namworld>	almost no BTC betweent these
Mar 24 01:27:07 <Namworld>	will move back and forth alot
Mar 24 01:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 316 @ 0.00431191 = 1.3626 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 02:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.6979999 = 2.094 BTC [-]
Mar 24 02:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.698 = 16.054 BTC [+]
Mar 24 02:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.698 BTC [+]
Mar 24 02:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.698 = 1.396 BTC [+]
Mar 24 02:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5543 @ 0.00067242 = 3.7272 BTC [-]
Mar 24 02:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4357 @ 0.00067141 = 2.9253 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 02:18:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009899 = 0.0495 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 02:28:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5643 @ 0.00067141 = 3.7888 BTC [-]
Mar 24 02:28:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11257 @ 0.00066854 = 7.5258 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 02:44:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2002 @ 0.00406127 = 8.1307 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 02:56:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009899 = 0.0198 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 03:15:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10394 @ 0.0006791 = 7.0586 BTC [+]
Mar 24 03:15:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1748 @ 0.0006797 = 1.1881 BTC [+]
Mar 24 03:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00066675 = 8.8011 BTC [-]
Mar 24 03:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00066655 = 1.6664 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 03:48:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009899 = 0.0297 BTC [+]
Mar 24 03:58:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00066663 = 6.6663 BTC [+]
Mar 24 03:58:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00066655 = 0.3999 BTC [-]
Mar 24 04:02:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 34 @ 0.00376 = 0.1278 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 04:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.53 = 3.71 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 04:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.711 BTC [+]
Mar 24 04:24:49 <Namworld>	VTX doing so well I can hardly believe it.
Mar 24 04:31:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.74899 = 1.498 BTC [+]
Mar 24 04:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.74899 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 04:46:47 <Bowjob>	yawn
Mar 24 04:46:50 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 24 04:46:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.10000, Best ask: 67.10001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 67.10000, 24 hour volume: 116721.98905975, 24 hour low: 52.34560, 24 hour high: 69.50000, 24 hour vwap: 62.24099
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Mar 24 05:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00066958 = 0.8705 BTC [+]
Mar 24 05:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00066957 = 1.2722 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 05:18:21 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 24 05:18:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.22003, Best ask: 67.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.52997, Last trade: 67.22002, 24 hour volume: 93650.08079424, 24 hour low: 55.00000, 24 hour high: 69.50000, 24 hour vwap: 64.22593
Mar 24 05:23:04 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/Zfbq2lL.jpg
Mar 24 05:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	haha sweet
Mar 24 05:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.749 BTC [+]
Mar 24 05:30:11 <Bowjob>	Wow
Mar 24 05:30:12 <Bowjob>	VTX
Mar 24 05:30:53 <Namworld>	aye, so?
Mar 24 05:31:15 <Bowjob>	it was 0.39 when it launched
Mar 24 05:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	this is becoming a pattern. new ipo, goes to 2x, fades then
Mar 24 05:31:57 <Bowjob>	i made the wrong call about vtx, didnt think they were worth 3 mil.
Mar 24 05:32:18 <Namworld>	Actually, assets on Havelock seem to hover around or under 10% per year
Mar 24 05:32:22 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock vtc
Mar 24 05:32:23 <mircea_popescu>	grrr
Mar 24 05:32:24 <assbot>	Are you sure you have no tobacco?
Mar 24 05:32:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock vtx
Mar 24 05:32:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.57099998 / 0.62809414 / 0.74900000 (283 shares, 177.75064253 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.40438482 / 0.74900000 (10630 shares, 4298.61068602 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.40438482 / 0.74900000 (10630 shares, 4298.61068602 BTC)
Mar 24 05:32:55 <Namworld>	and cavirtex charges 0.5-3% depending on volume.
Mar 24 05:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	if you look at averages, the upleg is very weak still
Mar 24 05:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157377
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Mar 24 05:36:11 <Bowjob>	oh wow
Mar 24 05:36:16 <Namworld>	and has at least 7000 BTC traded weekly. Let's say an average of 2% in fees taken and that's 140 BTC, divided by 100k shares for 0.0014 weekly per share. x52 weeks = 0.0728 BTC yearly
Mar 24 05:36:35 <Namworld>	At 10% yearly, VTX would be worth 0.72 BTC per share
Mar 24 05:36:45 <Namworld>	So I'm not really impressed.
Mar 24 05:37:13 <Bowjob>	10% a year in dividends is really good for a stock.. plus, the price appreciation
Mar 24 05:37:15 <Bowjob>	and growth
Mar 24 05:37:30 <Bowjob>	assuming coinlab doesnt squish them
Mar 24 05:37:50 <Namworld>	coinlab fails... hard
Mar 24 05:38:17 <Namworld>	just like MtGox, unsurprisingly.
Mar 24 05:38:32 <Namworld>	Cavirtex is very good for the canadian market.
Mar 24 05:40:06 <Bowjob>	So that malaysian guy wants to use BTC to pass customs
Mar 24 05:40:19 <Bowjob>	well, we dont know if hes malasian
Mar 24 05:40:21 <Bowjob>	but 4M
Mar 24 05:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, if they play right with the capital they got in ipo
Mar 24 05:40:46 <mircea_popescu>	they could become a force in the na market.
Mar 24 05:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	that will be valuavble mid term.
Mar 24 05:41:09 <Namworld>	I wonder if they'd expend to the US
Mar 24 05:41:34 <Namworld>	But the service is top notch and good options for deposit/withdrawals.
Mar 24 05:42:04 <Namworld>	You have to provide identification papers tho to benefit from all they offer.
Mar 24 05:43:09 <mircea_popescu>	the only catch here is for their service to STAY top notch.
Mar 24 05:43:19 <mircea_popescu>	here's my idea : they have say 10k bank transfer limit.
Mar 24 05:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	random number.
Mar 24 05:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	as long as their trade grows from 1k to 5k to 8k it all seems top notch and scaling well.
Mar 24 05:43:42 <mircea_popescu>	once they go to 15k its suddenly MtGox hell.
Mar 24 05:44:06 <Namworld>	eh
Mar 24 05:44:48 <Namworld>	Still, if it goes slow because of trading volume, I would complain of service quality but not dividends.
Mar 24 05:46:19 <Namworld>	Ah, sad I didn't have more funds for that IPO
Mar 24 05:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	thing is, the share in a company doing X is worth Y
Mar 24 05:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	if company starts doing W instead.... no Y. maybe 0.5 Y, maybe 0.1 Y maybe 0 Y
Mar 24 05:47:05 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't buy mtgox shares atm, i'd sell them short to all hell.
Mar 24 05:47:29 <Namworld>	Yeah
Mar 24 05:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.747 BTC [-]
Mar 24 05:50:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00067969 = 0.8836 BTC [+]
Mar 24 05:50:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.0006797 = 1.4953 BTC [+]
Mar 24 05:53:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.26803985 = 268.0399 BTC [-]
Mar 24 05:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.74554357 = 1.4911 BTC [-]
Mar 24 05:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	aha! covering eh ?
Mar 24 05:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.731 = 2.193 BTC [-]
Mar 24 05:55:32 <Namworld>	Looks like getting those calls was a good idea.
Mar 24 05:56:00 <Namworld>	it was a purchase...
Mar 24 05:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 10 @ 0.1607531 = 1.6075 BTC [-]
Mar 24 05:56:06 <Namworld>	Looks like that's not covering
Mar 24 05:56:15 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was a short on those open earlier
Mar 24 05:56:24 <mircea_popescu>	like a couple days ago
Mar 24 05:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00201401 = 1.007 BTC [+]
Mar 24 06:02:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.27075717 = 270.7572 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 06:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.27085926 = 270.8593 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 06:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.27083304 = 270.833 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 06:30:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000719 BTC [+]
Mar 24 06:30:50 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Mar 24 06:30:50 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.731 BTC [-]
Mar 24 06:31:04 <error4733>	!last m s.dice
Mar 24 06:31:05 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00406127 BTC [-]
Mar 24 06:31:25 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 24 06:31:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.03000, Best ask: 68.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 68.02002, 24 hour volume: 75739.57028674, 24 hour low: 60.31012, 24 hour high: 69.50000, 24 hour vwap: 64.96990
Mar 24 06:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.27093498 = 270.935 BTC [+]
Mar 24 06:33:12 <error4733>	"24 hour volume: 75739.57028674"  x 68 = 5M$  seems legit
Mar 24 06:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol wut ?
Mar 24 06:34:49 <Namworld>	Totally is, why wouldn't it?
Mar 24 06:34:49 <error4733>	i read this wrong ? 75K BTC trade in the last 24h ?
Mar 24 06:35:01 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 24 06:35:08 <error4733>	GOOD :)
Mar 24 06:35:09 <Namworld>	for the second part
Mar 24 06:35:24 <error4733>	not 68$ ?
Mar 24 06:35:46 <mircea_popescu>	redditor wants to know "How do keep your wallet on your computer synced with your wallet on your mobile?"
Mar 24 06:35:46 <Namworld>	no, "75K BTC trade in the last 24h ?"
Mar 24 06:35:49 <Namworld>	yeah to that
Mar 24 06:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	it's great that more people are into bitcoin
Mar 24 06:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's unfortunate they're from reddit.
Mar 24 06:36:22 <Bowjob>	redditors are insanely generous
Mar 24 06:36:23 <Namworld>	I sense coins flowing my way...
Mar 24 06:36:30 <Bowjob>	this one dude gave like 350 BTC free
Mar 24 06:36:41 <Namworld>	Odd
Mar 24 06:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	"That's not very useful is it?
Mar 24 06:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	Say I have most of my money at home in my computer. I am on the road without access to it and I need to spend some bitcoins.
Mar 24 06:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	Ooops I am out of luck. All my money is at home and I have no way to get at it."
Mar 24 06:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Mar 24 06:37:23 <Bowjob>	oh and i accidentally wore shirt backwards, according to some asian culture
Mar 24 06:37:29 <Bowjob>	its a sign of insanely good luck
Mar 24 06:37:33 <Bowjob>	gee. i wonder what that is
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Mar 24 06:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	maybw you get shat on by a bird
Mar 24 06:38:31 <Bowjob>	already happened
Mar 24 06:39:01 <Bowjob>	id prefer a more obvious sign of luck
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Mar 24 06:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you get shat on by a girl.
Mar 24 06:40:45 <Chaang-Noi>	lol what is this now?
Mar 24 06:41:08 <Chaang-Noi>	i see if i go away for a weekend when i come back all is normal:)
Mar 24 06:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	we were discussing finance.
Mar 24 06:41:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i have no doubt in my mind that you really where
Mar 24 06:42:08 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone get any deals in that flash crash to 52.31?
Mar 24 06:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.27117008 = 271.1701 BTC [+]
Mar 24 06:42:31 <Bowjob>	we got an enterainment deal.. those bears deserved it
Mar 24 06:42:48 <Chaang-Noi>	bear trap :)
Mar 24 06:43:07 <Bowjob>	it was too risky selling at the top
Mar 24 06:43:10 <Bowjob>	yeah
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Mar 24 06:45:11 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 24 06:45:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.03002, Best ask: 68.37999, Bid-ask spread: 0.34997, Last trade: 68.03002, 24 hour volume: 73431.39868107, 24 hour low: 60.31012, 24 hour high: 69.50000, 24 hour vwap: 64.99730
Mar 24 06:45:18 <kakobrekla>	not too bad
Mar 24 06:46:04 <Bowjob>	proudhon called it a downtrend.. so the opposite happened
Mar 24 06:46:05 <Bowjob>	we owe him
Mar 24 06:46:40 <Bowjob>	he should get an award for consistently failing his calls
Mar 24 06:47:38 <Chaang-Noi>	well when i saw 52 i was wondering if 32 would get hit
Mar 24 06:47:53 <Chaang-Noi>	68 on a sunday, damn... i wonder about next week!
Mar 24 06:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	61.95 was absolute 24h vwap bottom
Mar 24 06:49:25 <Bowjob>	http://stats.grok.se/en/latest90/bitcoin
Mar 24 06:49:48 <Chaang-Noi>	wow
Mar 24 06:49:51 <damientrog>	holy shit
Mar 24 06:49:51 <Chaang-Noi>	that is bullish
Mar 24 06:50:34 <Bowjob>	that flash crash.. i speculate its just a few big sellers, then noobs jumped in
Mar 24 06:50:56 <Bowjob>	learned an expensive lesson. and bought back at a higher price
Mar 24 06:51:20 <damientrog>	what kind of dump volume would cause such a flash crash?
Mar 24 06:51:36 <Bowjob>	10-20k
Mar 24 06:52:04 <kakobrekla>	hows ltc doing Chaang-Noi
Mar 24 06:52:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.27114431 = 271.1443 BTC [-]
Mar 24 06:52:43 <damientrog>	well at least I profited :)
Mar 24 06:52:53 <Chaang-Noi>	kako its over .008
Mar 24 06:53:21 <Bowjob>	i dont understand NVC
Mar 24 06:53:29 <Bowjob>	why is it so high?
Mar 24 06:53:31 <Chaang-Noi>	NVC is a ppcoin clone
Mar 24 06:53:40 <Bowjob>	yeah but why the value??
Mar 24 06:53:43 <Chaang-Noi>	becasue it was premined and they got the difficulty way high
Mar 24 06:53:49 <Chaang-Noi>	pump and dump
Mar 24 06:54:03 <Bowjob>	and btc-e tolerates this?
Mar 24 06:54:07 <Chaang-Noi>	when you premine the shit out of a coin like that its not hard to keep it up
Mar 24 06:54:12 <Chaang-Noi>	btc-e is the people doing it
Mar 24 06:54:33 <Chaang-Noi>	they got paid like 300000 nvc before it evengot listed
Mar 24 06:54:42 <kakobrekla>	btce people are retards
Mar 24 06:54:47 <kakobrekla>	bitstamp people are retards
Mar 24 06:54:49 <kakobrekla>	mtgox
Mar 24 06:54:50 <kakobrekla>	on wait
Mar 24 06:54:54 <kakobrekla>	im just gonna stop.
Mar 24 06:55:07 <kakobrekla>	on=oh
Mar 24 06:55:53 <kakobrekla>	aparently in 2011 and 2012 all the idiots thoguht they are cool for a bitcoin biz
Mar 24 06:55:58 <kakobrekla>	and now you have the results
Mar 24 06:56:00 <Chaang-Noi>	"Just checked the queue, there are 5500 accounts pending verification at this very moment."   at gox that is damn bullish
Mar 24 06:58:55 <error4733>	4300 last time i checked..
Mar 24 06:59:08 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 24 06:59:09 <gribble>	0.092316 seconds
Mar 24 06:59:11 <kakobrekla>	;;goxverificationlag
Mar 24 06:59:12 <gribble>	Error: "goxverificationlag" is not a valid command.
Mar 24 06:59:15 <kakobrekla>	eh
Mar 24 06:59:22 <error4733>	6500 next week ? @80$ ?
Mar 24 06:59:35 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Mar 24 06:59:35 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 24 06:59:44 <PsychoticBoy>	!difficulty
Mar 24 06:59:46 <Bowjob>	". Since we have a limited number of available chips for the first batch, I will not, in good conscience, be taking a large swath of them."
Mar 24 06:59:50 <kakobrekla>	well a bunch of money is still puring in
Mar 24 06:59:52 <Bowjob>	according to josh
Mar 24 06:59:52 <PsychoticBoy>	;;diff
Mar 24 06:59:53 <gribble>	4847647.152065606
Mar 24 06:59:58 <kakobrekla>	its the sellers market
Mar 24 07:00:15 <PsychoticBoy>	;;estimate
Mar 24 07:00:17 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6678297.40921 based on data since last change | 7641687.50681 based on data for last three days
Mar 24 07:00:28 <damientrog>	bfl must be the heist of the century
Mar 24 07:00:40 <Bowjob>	So apparently if bfl gets their shit together, they will keep some mining rigs for themselves?
Mar 24 07:01:03 <Chaang-Noi>	im sure they ordered first...
Mar 24 07:01:15 <error4733>	i'll do the same if i was running a ascis factory
Mar 24 07:01:29 <error4733>	not you ?
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Mar 24 07:02:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.2703313 = 270.3313 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 07:04:53 <error4733>	i hope this Ddos attak on SwC is from a oncurrent
Mar 24 07:04:53 <error4733>		
Mar 24 07:05:08 <error4733>	*concurrent
Mar 24 07:05:08 <error4733>		
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Mar 24 07:06:21 <error4733>	SatoshiPoker ! Erik if you're there, please make that real
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Mar 24 07:09:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000674 = 0.0202 BTC [-]
Mar 24 07:11:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 17 @ 0.00066 = 0.0112 BTC [-]
Mar 24 07:11:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 60 @ 0.000657 = 0.0394 BTC [-]
Mar 24 07:11:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.00065 = 0.0163 BTC [-]
Mar 24 07:11:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.00061 = 0.0061 BTC [-]
Mar 24 07:13:54 <kakobrekla>	gox > 2. Order lag is simply linked to large/unusual activity. We are working on a new trade engine that will reduce lag for large activity (this is our current main priority alongside keeping things secure and ensuring our legal compliance). Note that even if the engine is lagging, orders are guaranteed to be executed in the same order they were placed.
Mar 24 07:15:51 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 24 07:15:53 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227801 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 6 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 38 minutes and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6692199.0965 | Estimated Percent Change: 38.05046
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Mar 24 07:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4180 @ 0.0006698 = 2.7998 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 07:22:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.843995 = 1.688 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 07:25:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 245 @ 0.0006 = 0.147 BTC [-]
Mar 24 07:33:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 9 @ 0.007 = 0.063 BTC [-]
Mar 24 07:39:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 24 07:40:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.71234, Best ask: 67.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25766, Last trade: 67.71234, 24 hour volume: 67103.69556708, 24 hour low: 60.31012, 24 hour high: 69.50000, 24 hour vwap: 64.99679
Mar 24 07:42:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1000 @ 0.27074638 = 270.7464 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 07:44:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.131 BTC [-]
Mar 24 07:44:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.1306 = 1.306 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 07:44:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.13 = 0.65 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 07:47:19 <Bowjob>	http://tf2shop.net/
Mar 24 07:47:24 <Bowjob>	ah the old market.
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Mar 24 07:51:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.843995 = 1.688 BTC [-]
Mar 24 07:55:57 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.msg1666843#msg1666843
Mar 24 07:56:01 <kakobrekla>	reminds me of nefario
Mar 24 07:56:10 <kakobrekla>	even the avatar
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Mar 24 08:05:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 08:06:28 <dub>	that tie is awful
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Mar 24 08:06:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.843995 BTC [-]
Mar 24 08:09:05 <kakobrekla>	and my answer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.msg1667228#msg1667228
Mar 24 08:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.74895 = 2.9958 BTC [+]
Mar 24 08:12:42 <Uglux>	maybe he invites you in his TV show now :>
Mar 24 08:15:16 <Bowjob>	;;diff
Mar 24 08:15:17 <gribble>	6695826.282596251
Mar 24 08:15:20 <Bowjob>	Bam
Mar 24 08:15:30 <kakobrekla>	he has a tv show ??
Mar 24 08:15:33 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Mar 24 08:16:16 <Uglux>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155098.msg1660563#msg1660563
Mar 24 08:16:26 <Bowjob>	avalon still breaks even in 5 days
Mar 24 08:16:43 <Bowjob>	honestly, ill get my shit... the diff might be like 10m
Mar 24 08:17:21 <kakobrekla>	lol that guy
Mar 24 08:17:39 <kakobrekla>	"i can make pancakes - so i must be able to use bitcoin"
Mar 24 08:22:08 <Uglux>	http://vimeo.com/11018684
Mar 24 08:22:18 <kakobrekla>	oo ty
Mar 24 08:22:27 <kakobrekla>	mental masturbation awaits
Mar 24 08:22:32 <Uglux>	lol
Mar 24 08:23:11 <Bowjob>	we'll see single digits soon
Mar 24 08:23:32 <Bowjob>	1 mBTC = $1 parity event
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Mar 24 08:24:54 <Uglux>	so proudhon was right all the time
Mar 24 08:26:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 3 @ 0.021 = 0.063 BTC [-]
Mar 24 08:27:14 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 24 08:27:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.22000, Best ask: 67.22001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 67.22000, 24 hour volume: 64537.66062626, 24 hour low: 60.31012, 24 hour high: 69.50000, 24 hour vwap: 65.00382
Mar 24 08:38:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 45 @ 0.0006 = 0.027 BTC [-]
Mar 24 08:39:24 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 24 08:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla that's like inverse intern syndrome
Mar 24 08:40:57 <mircea_popescu>	instead of thinking he's suffering from every entry in the nosology book, like normal interns
Mar 24 08:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin noobs think I am.
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Mar 24 08:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00066987 = 0.8708 BTC [+]
Mar 24 08:48:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 820 @ 0.00066986 = 0.5493 BTC [-]
Mar 24 08:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150 @ 0.00066957 = 0.1004 BTC [-]
Mar 24 08:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1630 @ 0.00066656 = 1.0865 BTC [-]
Mar 24 08:52:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.843994 = 7.5959 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 09:03:45 <Chaang-Noi>	!ticker s.dice
Mar 24 09:03:45 <assbot>	Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
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Mar 24 09:17:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8370 @ 0.00066656 = 5.5791 BTC [-]
Mar 24 09:17:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7280 @ 0.00066655 = 4.8525 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 09:34:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.0006 = 0.0012 BTC [-]
Mar 24 09:38:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: When will MPOE bot be upgraded to v2
Mar 24 09:38:57 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: When will there be a shareholders meeting?
Mar 24 09:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Mar 24 09:39:17 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: Also y u no hold press confrences?
Mar 24 09:39:21 <thestringpuller>	I DEMAND ANSWERS!
Mar 24 09:39:21 <thestringpuller>	lol
Mar 24 09:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	what's this then lol
Mar 24 09:40:31 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 24 09:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00406127 / 0.00410987 / 0.0044444 (2418 shares, 9.94 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00435464 / 0.005598 (288838 shares, 1,257.79 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00544752 / 0.00638999 (1286528 shares, 7,008.39 BTC)
Mar 24 09:40:35 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 24 09:40:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.26732239 / 68.48072218 / 69.69362193 (24630 shares, 6,346.18 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Mar 24 09:44:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21992 @ 0.00066655 = 14.6588 BTC [-]
Mar 24 09:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3919 @ 0.00066079 = 2.5896 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 09:45:48 <thestringpuller>	Must be dividends paying week for the price to drop that low.
Mar 24 09:46:16 <mircea_popescu>	haha it is
Mar 24 09:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	friday.
Mar 24 09:46:24 <Chaang-Noi>	will there be dividends for dive this month?
Mar 24 09:46:31 <Chaang-Noi>	sice
Mar 24 09:46:45 <Chaang-Noi>	wow...  s. dice
Mar 24 09:47:22 <thestringpuller>	no one will know until friday
Mar 24 09:47:27 <thestringpuller>	How MPOE bot faired
Mar 24 09:47:32 <Chaang-Noi>	are they neg now?
Mar 24 09:47:35 <thestringpuller>	I hope the bondholders have hedged their bet
Mar 24 09:53:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3381 @ 0.00066079 = 2.2341 BTC [-]
Mar 24 09:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10969 @ 0.00065768 = 7.2141 BTC [-]
Mar 24 09:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 225 @ 0.00439999 = 0.99 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 10:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157360.msg1667375#msg1667375
Mar 24 10:06:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol poor tux.
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Mar 24 10:07:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.825 BTC [-]
Mar 24 10:07:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.822 = 4.11 BTC [-]
Mar 24 10:08:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [-]
Mar 24 10:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.52999999 BTC [-]
Mar 24 10:19:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00066236 = 1.7884 BTC [+]
Mar 24 10:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.53 = 2.12 BTC [+]
Mar 24 10:30:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2148 @ 0.004 = 8.592 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 10:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.004 = 40 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 11:09:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.009899 = 0.0594 BTC [+]
Mar 24 11:09:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0041 BTC [-]
Mar 24 11:09:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00403 = 0.0605 BTC [-]
Mar 24 11:09:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.00402 = 0.0724 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 11:25:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00402 = 0.0281 BTC [-]
Mar 24 11:25:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 149 @ 0.00402 = 0.599 BTC [-]
Mar 24 11:26:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 215 @ 0.000585 = 0.1258 BTC [-]
Mar 24 11:31:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.821 BTC [+]
Mar 24 11:32:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20034 @ 0.0006 = 12.0204 BTC [+]
Mar 24 11:32:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.821 = 4.105 BTC [+]
Mar 24 11:32:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [-]
Mar 24 11:32:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 11:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.52 = 4.68 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 11:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.74879999 = 2.9952 BTC [-]
Mar 24 11:44:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Mar 24 11:44:55 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 14 seconds
Mar 24 11:44:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
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Mar 24 11:45:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7488 BTC [+]
Mar 24 11:45:05 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227833 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1990 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7798057.04105 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.46146
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Mar 24 11:48:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00067516 = 0.0675 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 11:54:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 24 11:54:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.22001, Best ask: 69.89880, Bid-ask spread: 0.67879, Last trade: 69.15100, 24 hour volume: 53590.65591553, 24 hour low: 60.31012, 24 hour high: 70.80000, 24 hour vwap: 65.02820
Mar 24 11:54:35 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Mar 24 11:54:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 75
Mar 24 11:54:50 <gribble>	There are currently 13727.664 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 1004783.82347 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds
Mar 24 11:55:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 65
Mar 24 11:55:12 <gribble>	There are currently 5320.6814 bitcoins demanded at or over 65.0 USD, worth 356090.217043 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.7412 seconds
Mar 24 12:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7487 BTC [-]
Mar 24 12:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7488 BTC [+]
Mar 24 12:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.53 = 1.06 BTC [+]
Mar 24 12:08:43 <Diablo-D3>	what the fuck
Mar 24 12:08:46 <Diablo-D3>	ANOTHER dividend
Mar 24 12:09:07 <Diablo-D3>	go asicminer go!
Mar 24 12:10:28 <ThickAsThieves>	probly the bonus one to fulfill their obligations
Mar 24 12:10:38 <ThickAsThieves>	that friedcat mentioned
Mar 24 12:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [+]
Mar 24 12:11:10 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Mar 24 12:11:32 <ThickAsThieves>	then on Wed all shares will split divs
Mar 24 12:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7487 BTC [-]
Mar 24 12:13:41 <ThickAsThieves>	it's funny sometimes Havelock shows - when it should be +, somehting to do with how matching orders don't get filled immediately there I bet
Mar 24 12:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7488 BTC [+]
Mar 24 12:17:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 731 @ 0.00065768 = 0.4808 BTC [-]
Mar 24 12:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00065653 = 3.6766 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 12:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.53 = 4.77 BTC [+]
Mar 24 12:36:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5891 @ 0.00065652 = 3.8676 BTC [-]
Mar 24 12:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5809 @ 0.00067509 = 3.9216 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 12:47:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8926 @ 0.00065583 = 5.8539 BTC [-]
Mar 24 12:54:33 <TomServo>	;;goxlag
Mar 24 12:54:34 <gribble>	88.704998 seconds
Mar 24 13:01:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1097 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 13:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0043999 = 2.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 13:06:32 <gribble>	0 seconds
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Mar 24 13:09:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 24 13:09:05 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227842 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1981 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8074724.41934 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.5934
Mar 24 13:09:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 24 13:09:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 68.50001, Best ask: 68.51000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 68.51000, 24 hour volume: 52567.32160321, 24 hour low: 60.31012, 24 hour high: 70.80000, 24 hour vwap: 65.13060
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Mar 24 13:17:23 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: How's your NPD going today?
Mar 24 13:17:38 <smickles>	Have you been staying away from mirrors like the doc said to?
Mar 24 13:18:48 <smickles>	$depth dice
Mar 24 13:18:50 <mpexbot>	smickles: S.DICE Bids: ['2000 @ 0.004004', '352 @ 0.004', '1512 @ 0.0038512', '1000 @ 0.00385001', '1000 @ 0.00380002']
Mar 24 13:18:51 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['4259 @ 0.00439999', '194974 @ 0.0044', '500 @ 0.00444437', '900 @ 0.0044444', '204 @ 0.00444442']
Mar 24 13:19:42 <jurov>	nah, mirrors. he should rather forbid the girls to call him "master"
Mar 24 13:20:12 <smickles>	c'mon, that's just a healthy sexlive
Mar 24 13:20:16 <smickles>	*life
Mar 24 13:20:46 <jurov>	you do have healthy sex life, too?
Mar 24 13:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.53 = 1.06 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 13:22:02 <smickles>	yeah, but in another way. My wife's pregnant, so she's ready and willing most all the time
Mar 24 13:23:01 <jurov>	pregnant again? sry if i misunderstand your family situation
Mar 24 13:23:22 <jurov>	congrats in any case ;)
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Mar 24 13:23:32 <smickles>	heh, the process takes a while. She's due mid may
Mar 24 13:23:47 <smickles>	thanks :)
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Mar 24 13:24:03 <jurov>	ic... she has no clock buffers, so you have to wait :)
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Mar 24 13:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067508 = 3.3754 BTC [+]
Mar 24 13:33:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8148 @ 0.00067509 = 5.5006 BTC [+]
Mar 24 13:33:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00067969 = 0.8836 BTC [+]
Mar 24 13:33:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 819 @ 0.0006797 = 0.5567 BTC [+]
Mar 24 13:34:11 <jurov>	S.MPOE, WAT UR DOIN
Mar 24 13:34:30 <jurov>	lol prolly i miss bowjob
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Mar 24 13:46:28 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 24 13:46:30 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227847 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1976 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, 32 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7802484.10798 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.52758
Mar 24 13:46:36 <kakobrekla>	blocks are raining
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Mar 24 13:49:31 <[\\\]>	secure the network they said
Mar 24 13:49:53 <[\\\]>	asicminer div just got included in a block
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Mar 24 13:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 3 @ 0.05191801 = 0.1558 BTC
Mar 24 13:56:04 *	Anduckkk is now known as Anduck
Mar 24 13:57:01 <smickles>	;;calc 73/(1-.05191801)
Mar 24 13:57:01 <gribble>	76.997560095
Mar 24 13:57:11 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 24 13:57:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.00000, Best ask: 70.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.70000, Last trade: 70.70000, 24 hour volume: 50443.42134716, 24 hour low: 60.31012, 24 hour high: 70.80000, 24 hour vwap: 65.36583
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Mar 24 14:01:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.75 = 5.25 BTC [-]
Mar 24 14:01:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 3 @ 0.05265701 = 0.158 BTC [+]
Mar 24 14:01:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.8 = 4.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 14:03:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 44 @ 0.8 = 35.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 14:05:21 <[\\\]>	DeaDTerra, time to wake up and process ;)
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Mar 24 14:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 3 @ 0.05265701 = 0.158 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 14:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.516 BTC [-]
Mar 24 14:09:28 <smickles>	$depth dice
Mar 24 14:09:30 <mpexbot>	smickles: S.DICE Bids: ['2000 @ 0.004004', '352 @ 0.004', '1512 @ 0.0038512', '1000 @ 0.00385001', '1000 @ 0.00380002']
Mar 24 14:09:31 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['4259 @ 0.00439999', '194974 @ 0.0044', '500 @ 0.00444437', '900 @ 0.0044444', '204 @ 0.00444442']
Mar 24 14:09:53 <smickles>	quite a bit higher on havelock
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Mar 24 14:13:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 2 @ 0.05090501 = 0.1018 BTC [-]
Mar 24 14:13:43 <mjr_>	has anyone seen rogue trader?
Mar 24 14:13:56 <smickles>	rogue trader?
Mar 24 14:14:38 <smickles>	"A rogue trader is an authorized employee making unauthorized trades on behalf of their employer."
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Mar 24 14:16:55 <mjr_>	the movie with ewan mcgregor
Mar 24 14:17:04 <mjr_>	its an amazing trading movie
Mar 24 14:18:01 <KRS1>	market price on mt gox makes no sense to me..everything i know about markets tells me it should have been going down by now. i'm not an expert by anymeans however.
Mar 24 14:18:19 <mjr_>	what tells you it should be going down by now?
Mar 24 14:18:36 <KRS1>	maybe not go down..plateu?
Mar 24 14:18:47 <mjr_>	we are down from the high...
Mar 24 14:18:56 <KRS1>	barely
Mar 24 14:18:56 <mjr_>	decreased weekend volume means less liquidity
Mar 24 14:19:02 <mjr_>	higher spreads and more volatility
Mar 24 14:19:23 <mjr_>	we also had a big jump in difficulty
Mar 24 14:19:34 <mjr_>	that SHOULD tamp down on the supply flowing in
Mar 24 14:19:52 <KRS1>	which might raise it higer?
Mar 24 14:19:53 <mjr_>	think the miners were doing a block every 6-7 minutes
Mar 24 14:20:01 <mjr_>	that should go back to around 10
Mar 24 14:20:09 <mjr_>	yes, lower supply from mining pools
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Mar 24 14:20:30 <mjr_>	i'm just thinking out loud
Mar 24 14:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 2 @ 0.05469641 = 0.1094 BTC [+]
Mar 24 14:20:59 <mjr_>	i haven't really sold at all...but i have a price target that i want to hit by 2014
Mar 24 14:21:02 <KRS1>	thanks ill take from that and try to grasp it
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Mar 24 14:21:44 <mjr_>	in an efficient market, with a lot of liquidity, you would see the jump in difficulty priced in
Mar 24 14:21:48 <mjr_>	this aint a market like that
Mar 24 14:22:25 <smickles>	KRS1: take a look at the charts on http://blockchained.com/ for the affect of diff changes on price
Mar 24 14:22:32 <mjr_>	signals are all weird...
Mar 24 14:22:34 <KRS1>	ok
Mar 24 14:22:38 <wao>	mjr_: downloading rogue trader
Mar 24 14:22:38 <mjr_>	because of inefficiencies
Mar 24 14:22:48 <mjr_>	for example
Mar 24 14:22:50 <KRS1>	which point to high volitility but overall health
Mar 24 14:22:54 <mjr_>	5500 accounts waiting to open ongox
Mar 24 14:23:00 <mjr_>	they aint going there to sell i bet
Mar 24 14:23:26 <mjr_>	coinbase seems to be quite fucked in fulfilling demand
Mar 24 14:24:01 <mjr_>	none of these mean that it HAS to go up...any guy who wants to buy himself a nice car could drop the price signifigantly
Mar 24 14:24:22 <KRS1>	this is a great link thanks smickles
Mar 24 14:24:41 <mjr_>	speaking of which, anyone seen the 6 wheel mercedes g-wagon?
Mar 24 14:24:42 <smickles>	np
Mar 24 14:25:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 2 @ 0.05283951 = 0.1057 BTC [-]
Mar 24 14:25:37 <mjr_>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z39jXZfCpf0
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Mar 24 14:27:50 <mjr_>	only a few military grade trucks could outperform you...and they wouldn't look as cool :)
Mar 24 14:31:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 2 @ 0.05197551 = 0.104 BTC [-]
Mar 24 14:32:08 <smickles>	jeez, that thing tears the fuck out of the land
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Mar 24 14:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7448 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 14:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7448 BTC [-]
Mar 24 14:35:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
Mar 24 14:35:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
Mar 24 14:35:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
Mar 24 14:35:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 57 @ 0.8 = 45.6 BTC [+]
Mar 24 14:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 2 @ 0.05197551 = 0.104 BTC [-]
Mar 24 14:43:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 2 @ 0.05419401 = 0.1084 BTC [+]
Mar 24 14:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.7448 = 9.6824 BTC [-]
Mar 24 14:45:07 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ax8zi/say_what_you_want_but_technicals_work/ << funny
Mar 24 14:46:03 <smickles>	see my refutation using actual studies to back it up
Mar 24 14:47:27 <mjr_>	smickles: yeah, it is a beast of a truck
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Mar 24 14:48:09 <mjr_>	and yeah, you can retrofit any theory to back up your chart patterns...at the beginning of a "head and shoulders" very few can successfully call the head and shoulders...you see it after it has happened
Mar 24 14:48:17 <mjr_>	i mean that guy not you by the way
Mar 24 14:49:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.05419401 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 14:49:43 <smickles>	mjr_: where you around back when someone claimed to have spotted a head and shoulders int the btc/usd price a while ago? it became a small meme when someone else colored it like batman
Mar 24 14:50:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 48 @ 0.00384 = 0.1843 BTC [+]
Mar 24 14:50:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 31 @ 0.00384 = 0.119 BTC [+]
Mar 24 14:51:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00385 = 0.385 BTC [+]
Mar 24 14:51:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.00383 = 1.915 BTC [-]
Mar 24 14:51:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8395 = 2.5185 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 14:52:26 <mjr_>	haven't seen many head and shoulders but cup and handle has been going around a lot
Mar 24 14:52:30 <mjr_>	bear traps
Mar 24 14:52:30 <mjr_>	etc
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Mar 24 14:53:03 <mjr_>	simple point is that just cuz it did that .5 seconds ago, means jack shit to what it does in the next .5 seconds...especially when you have such a small sample size
Mar 24 14:53:26 <mjr_>	how does a chart possibly tell me someone is going to unload a half a mill cuz they decided to buy a house
Mar 24 14:53:44 <mjr_>	only a handful of really big traders
Mar 24 14:53:52 <mjr_>	and they can move the price dollars up or down
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Mar 24 14:54:12 <mjr_>	but not only is there volatility...its also volatility of volume and size
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Mar 24 14:55:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.05418651 BTC [-]
Mar 24 14:55:59 <ThickAsThieves>	tiberius back in action?
Mar 24 14:56:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 24 14:56:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.59701, Best ask: 70.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38299, Last trade: 70.98000, 24 hour volume: 46477.06384271, 24 hour low: 60.37000, 24 hour high: 71.43825, 24 hour vwap: 66.26052
Mar 24 14:56:25 <ThickAsThieves>	llestimate
Mar 24 14:56:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 24 14:56:30 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7882079.03307 based on data since last change | 7826894.02138 based on data for last three days
Mar 24 14:57:02 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56025.msg666745#msg666745 << this is one of them mjr_
Mar 24 14:57:08 <smickles>	scary batman double top
Mar 24 14:57:24 <smickles>	at 4.5
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Mar 24 15:01:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.05401701 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:01:44 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 24 15:01:49 <mjr_>	smickles: thanks
Mar 24 15:02:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.516 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:02:07 <mjr_>	ThickAsThieves: those estimates won't mean anything till we get a bigger sample size
Mar 24 15:02:32 <mjr_>	smickles: here is something funny to watch though
Mar 24 15:03:27 <ThickAsThieves>	just checkin
Mar 24 15:04:29 <thestringpuller>	can someone buy me a steam game
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Mar 24 15:06:06 <mjr_>	http://youtu.be/xWpOKWjFHNY?t=1m5s
Mar 24 15:06:25 <mjr_>	easy way to make a shit ton of money if you caught that bottom...
Mar 24 15:06:42 <mjr_>	especially if you were leveraged 5 to 1 on bitfinex
Mar 24 15:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.05401701 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 15:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00067563 = 0.8783 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:07:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00067564 = 2.8377 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:07:55 <thestringpuller>	anyone?
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Mar 24 15:08:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i can sell you a code for Bioshock Infinity & Crysis 3
Mar 24 15:08:47 <ThickAsThieves>	(late response to smickles)
Mar 24 15:08:49 <smickles>	heh, mjr_ fun stuff
Mar 24 15:09:02 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 24 15:09:03 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 seconds ago: <smickles> heh, mjr_ fun stuff
Mar 24 15:09:04 <mjr_>	this won't last
Mar 24 15:09:09 <mjr_>	but damn it is fun to watch
Mar 24 15:09:21 <mjr_>	bunch of people working on bringing more efficiency to the market
Mar 24 15:09:28 <thestringpuller>	ThickAsThieves: could you gift me Kerbel Space Program
Mar 24 15:09:38 <mjr_>	we'll be telling young kids in years about when it used to jump ten points
Mar 24 15:09:48 <mjr_>	from 55 to 65...
Mar 24 15:10:00 <mjr_>	they'll be like "it used to be 65???"
Mar 24 15:10:03 <smickles>	mjr_: also, i caught that. and it reminded me of the video of the guy who recorded the crash from 30 to 0 which was eventually rolled back due to it being caused by a hack
Mar 24 15:10:47 <smickles>	and i think bugpowder said he missed the bottom by .20 usd
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Mar 24 15:11:52 <ThickAsThieves>	but how long was his fiat sitting there waiting for that lost opportunity
Mar 24 15:12:04 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe since btc was at $50?
Mar 24 15:12:37 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: mine? or BP's?
Mar 24 15:12:42 <ThickAsThieves>	BP
Mar 24 15:12:55 <smickles>	dunno, I'd bet not long tho
Mar 24 15:13:04 <tiberiusiv>	cavirtex shares have almost doubled
Mar 24 15:13:08 <ThickAsThieves>	just addressing that things have to dip pretty damn low to be worth the risk of sitting on fiat
Mar 24 15:13:10 <smickles>	BP is a smart chap
Mar 24 15:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.05061551 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:14:36 <ThickAsThieves>	yep VTX is on fire
Mar 24 15:15:13 <tiberiusiv>	well his IPO had a fair valuation imo $3mil market cap for entire company
Mar 24 15:15:33 <tiberiusiv>	guy wasnt being greedy
Mar 24 15:15:48 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe not, but still plenty risk there
Mar 24 15:15:59 <tiberiusiv>	how?
Mar 24 15:16:10 <smickles>	;;seen thestringpuller
Mar 24 15:16:10 <gribble>	thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 minutes and 42 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> ThickAsThieves: could you gift me Kerbel Space Program
Mar 24 15:16:33 <tiberiusiv>	unlike most other btc firms hes a fully incorporated company
Mar 24 15:16:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll skip to you telling me how there's not as much risk as one might think
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Mar 24 15:17:48 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: cavirtex has better transparency then anything out there so far imo, his statements have to be audited by multiple 3rd parties
Mar 24 15:18:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.83945 = 1.6789 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:18:15 <ThickAsThieves>	doesnt mean theyll turn a profit
Mar 24 15:18:21 <tiberiusiv>	they already do
Mar 24 15:18:29 <tiberiusiv>	and a major one at that
Mar 24 15:18:36 <ThickAsThieves>	they have 0 profit to date
Mar 24 15:18:47 <tiberiusiv>	look at his trade volume
Mar 24 15:18:52 <tiberiusiv>	and fee %
Mar 24 15:19:19 <tiberiusiv>	how do they have 0 profit when hes collecting 2-3% off of $150k a day?
Mar 24 15:19:32 <mjr_>	um...
Mar 24 15:19:36 <mjr_>	expenses?
Mar 24 15:19:42 <mjr_>	i don't know their profit
Mar 24 15:19:43 <tiberiusiv>	running a server?
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Mar 24 15:19:53 <mjr_>	but that is how you would turn that revenue not into profit
Mar 24 15:20:04 <mjr_>	those 3rd party audits aren't free you know
Mar 24 15:20:11 <mjr_>	i have no clue about cavirtex
Mar 24 15:20:11 <tiberiusiv>	ca virtex traded $800k in the last week
Mar 24 15:20:14 <mjr_>	i own no shares
Mar 24 15:20:20 <mjr_>	and haven't looked into them
Mar 24 15:20:22 <tiberiusiv>	collecting at least 2% of that for themselves
Mar 24 15:20:30 <mjr_>	no clue
Mar 24 15:20:35 <mjr_>	but i'm sure they will do well
Mar 24 15:20:45 <mjr_>	i am just not interested in gaining on appreciation
Mar 24 15:20:49 <tiberiusiv>	nobody else cashes out as fast as they do so far in north america
Mar 24 15:20:51 <mjr_>	revenue streams only ATM
Mar 24 15:21:08 <tiberiusiv>	mjr_ dividends you mean
Mar 24 15:21:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.05003501 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:21:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.05003501 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:21:12 <mjr_>	yep
Mar 24 15:21:16 <mjr_>	the prob for my model
Mar 24 15:21:21 <mjr_>	is that if i believe in the company
Mar 24 15:21:22 <tiberiusiv>	mjr_ they will pay dividends out.
Mar 24 15:21:24 <mjr_>	i don't want to sell
Mar 24 15:21:30 <ThickAsThieves>	"To date all revenues have been used for business and website development, legal fees, computer hardware and marketing. All available capital is being used to grow the company and complete the business plan items."
Mar 24 15:21:34 <mjr_>	no...they have absolutely no promise of dividends
Mar 24 15:21:48 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: yes because volumes have increased only in the last 3months
Mar 24 15:21:51 <ThickAsThieves>	"In the case where VirtEx is bought out by another company or VirtEx pays a dividend to its shareholders, Bitcoin shareholders will get paid in Bitcoin at the Canadian dollar equivalent rate using the best market prices at the time"
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Mar 24 15:22:01 <mjr_>	satoshi dice "we will pay 100% of profit as dividends"
Mar 24 15:22:11 <tiberiusiv>	yes because its an illegal gambling site.
Mar 24 15:22:15 <mjr_>	in the case that aliens land on earth...
Mar 24 15:22:17 <tiberiusiv>	of course it will have the highest payouts
Mar 24 15:22:25 <mjr_>	first off
Mar 24 15:22:30 <ThickAsThieves>	is it illegal?
Mar 24 15:22:30 <mjr_>	maybe illegal in america
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Mar 24 15:22:35 <mjr_>	that aint the whole world
Mar 24 15:22:38 <mjr_>	second of all
Mar 24 15:22:42 <tiberiusiv>	satoshi dice has a 30% dividend yield for a reason
Mar 24 15:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00067564 = 4.1214 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068174 = 3.4087 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:22:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3198 @ 0.00068175 = 2.1802 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:22:52 <tiberiusiv>	it implies major risk of an event occuring
Mar 24 15:22:52 <mjr_>	that is only if bitcoins are regulated in gambling, which no one has said they are so far
Mar 24 15:23:00 <mjr_>	in ireland?
Mar 24 15:23:07 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: the market is saying satoshi dice is risky
Mar 24 15:23:13 <mjr_>	no
Mar 24 15:23:18 <tiberiusiv>	hence why it has a 30% dividend yield.
Mar 24 15:23:22 <ThickAsThieves>	by the market, do you mean mtgox?
Mar 24 15:23:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;)
Mar 24 15:23:28 <mjr_>	they are simply passing through most of THEIR profits to most of their stakeholders
Mar 24 15:23:37 <tiberiusiv>	yes and everyone would BID THEM UP
Mar 24 15:23:39 <tiberiusiv>	wanting those profits
Mar 24 15:23:42 <mjr_>	ie. the 87% of the company which they own
Mar 24 15:23:45 <tiberiusiv>	and the dividend yield would be in the single digits.
Mar 24 15:23:58 <tiberiusiv>	the reason its not is because satoshi dice has a huge event risk
Mar 24 15:23:59 <ThickAsThieves>	div is 0 this month
Mar 24 15:24:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00068175 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:24:05 <mjr_>	eh
Mar 24 15:24:08 <tiberiusiv>	1) voorhees is in the US
Mar 24 15:24:13 <mjr_>	for now
Mar 24 15:24:18 <mjr_>	and that is a very small window
Mar 24 15:24:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2 @ 0.00068175 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:24:19 <tiberiusiv>	2) hes also a memeber of the "cash in" service bitinstant
Mar 24 15:24:20 <mjr_>	of risk
Mar 24 15:24:28 <mjr_>	actually he is at coinapult
Mar 24 15:24:29 <tiberiusiv>	its not a small window
Mar 24 15:24:30 <mjr_>	but keep going
Mar 24 15:24:38 <tiberiusiv>	hes a member of bitinstant as well
Mar 24 15:25:00 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: i dont have to keep going, the market is indicating a 30% dividend for a reason, if it was safe the price of satoshi would be 2-3x what it is now.
Mar 24 15:25:12 <tiberiusiv>	because even a 10% annual dividend in BTC is alot
Mar 24 15:25:54 <tiberiusiv>	mjr_: second off it doesnt matter if satoshidice is in ireland, they have no gaming license to make them legal in ANY jurisdiction.
Mar 24 15:25:54 <mjr_>	well
Mar 24 15:26:00 <mjr_>	huh?
Mar 24 15:26:12 <mjr_>	under what license are you allowed to buy milk?
Mar 24 15:26:13 <tiberiusiv>	the gambling friendly regions require a license.
Mar 24 15:26:24 <mjr_>	unless there is legislation STOPPING you
Mar 24 15:26:27 <tiberiusiv>	the farmer is licensed to sell it to me
Mar 24 15:26:29 <mjr_>	it is implicityly legal
Mar 24 15:26:33 <tiberiusiv>	wrong
Mar 24 15:26:37 <mjr_>	and ireland doesn't have that
Mar 24 15:26:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 10 @ 0.05003501 = 0.5004 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:26:43 <mjr_>	which is why all the other gambling sites are there too
Mar 24 15:26:49 <tiberiusiv>	no they arent
Mar 24 15:26:52 <mjr_>	ie. dollar online poker
Mar 24 15:26:55 <tiberiusiv>	they are on small islands fully licensed
Mar 24 15:27:00 <tiberiusiv>	like winpoker for example
Mar 24 15:27:22 <tiberiusiv>	gaming jurisdictions provide licenses to firms
Mar 24 15:27:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.05003501 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:27:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.05003501 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:28:27 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Casino%20%28Eng%29%20for%20Web.pdf/Files/Casino%20%28Eng%29%20for%20Web.pdf
Mar 24 15:28:37 <tiberiusiv>	gaming is 100% regulated in ireland. requiring licenses
Mar 24 15:28:41 <tiberiusiv>	of which satoshidice has none
Mar 24 15:28:45 <ThickAsThieves>	would be nice to see some development or promotion for sdice again
Mar 24 15:28:52 <mjr_>	well, that is happening
Mar 24 15:28:55 <mjr_>	i trust
Mar 24 15:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.516 = 2.064 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:29:42 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: imo if their wasnt so much uncertainty with sdice its price would be 2-3x higher
Mar 24 15:29:42 <mjr_>	i have a lot of faith in the long term prospects of that company
Mar 24 15:29:56 <tiberiusiv>	the bigger they get the larger the target on them
Mar 24 15:29:59 <mjr_>	you don't get half of the volume by not being popular
Mar 24 15:30:02 <tiberiusiv>	especially when key executives are inside the US.
Mar 24 15:30:14 <tiberiusiv>	breaking numerous US laws in the process
Mar 24 15:30:14 <mjr_>	which they won't be for even 4 weeks
Mar 24 15:30:17 <mjr_>	i believe
Mar 24 15:30:30 <mjr_>	not sure the exact time frame
Mar 24 15:30:35 <mjr_>	but i think it is already well known
Mar 24 15:30:39 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees should have never been a memeber of the cash in service as well
Mar 24 15:30:42 <mjr_>	that they will not be here very much longer
Mar 24 15:30:51 <tiberiusiv>	because as far as US authorities are concerned, he is selling casino chips
Mar 24 15:31:04 <mjr_>	thats nice
Mar 24 15:31:18 <mjr_>	they have done at this point...oh yeah nothing
Mar 24 15:31:26 <tiberiusiv>	becuase it was small.
Mar 24 15:31:31 <mjr_>	ok...
Mar 24 15:31:32 <tiberiusiv>	nobody knew about it
Mar 24 15:31:34 <mjr_>	and they won't be here
Mar 24 15:31:35 <mjr_>	so...
Mar 24 15:31:38 <mjr_>	no servers in us
Mar 24 15:31:41 <mjr_>	no employees in us
Mar 24 15:31:44 <tiberiusiv>	it doesnt matter his name is everywhere and he is a US citizen
Mar 24 15:31:45 <mjr_>	but the us will...
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Mar 24 15:31:57 <tiberiusiv>	and he has no gaming license in any jurisdiction even ireland
Mar 24 15:32:07 <mjr_>	so you are now worried about ireland stepping in
Mar 24 15:32:18 <mjr_>	i'll take my chances i suppose
Mar 24 15:32:21 <benkay>	the us can
Mar 24 15:32:23 <tiberiusiv>	if satoshi dice was double in price the dividend yield would be 15%
Mar 24 15:32:25 <mjr_>	different risk profiles and we can leave it at that
Mar 24 15:32:26 <benkay>	freeze your fiat-denominated assets
Mar 24 15:32:27 <tiberiusiv>	which is still VERY high
Mar 24 15:32:31 <benkay>	take your property
Mar 24 15:32:35 <benkay>	and lock you in a room
Mar 24 15:32:40 <mjr_>	um...there are no fiat denominated assets
Mar 24 15:32:46 <mjr_>	all of s.dice is in btc
Mar 24 15:33:01 <benkay>	not necessarily true of the humans behind it
Mar 24 15:33:01 <mjr_>	expenses paid in btc
Mar 24 15:33:12 <tiberiusiv>	operating an illegal casino is still a massive fine/punishment even in ireland.
Mar 24 15:33:14 <mjr_>	hold on...
Mar 24 15:33:17 <tiberiusiv>	please read the laws before you spout BS
Mar 24 15:33:30 <benkay>	usg doesn't care about laws or your mythical currencies
Mar 24 15:33:33 <tiberiusiv>	ireland is a member of the EU
Mar 24 15:33:45 <benkay>	they just lock you up and make an example of you
Mar 24 15:33:45 <tiberiusiv>	its not the wildwest like carribean islands
Mar 24 15:33:45 <mjr_>	again, that's nice
Mar 24 15:33:52 <tiberiusiv>	exactly
Mar 24 15:33:52 <mjr_>	lock up the server?
Mar 24 15:33:59 <tiberiusiv>	you are cashing chips for a casino
Mar 24 15:34:00 <benkay>	nope, the humans who can log into the server.
Mar 24 15:34:02 <mjr_>	remember...only the server is in ireland
Mar 24 15:34:10 <mjr_>	there is nothing in the US to lock up
Mar 24 15:34:12 <tiberiusiv>	lock up the people operating it
Mar 24 15:34:12 <smickles>	< tiberiusiv> yes because its an illegal gambling site. <<< iirc, it's a legal irish gaming company
Mar 24 15:34:14 <benkay>	not even humans?
Mar 24 15:34:21 <mjr_>	nope
Mar 24 15:34:23 <mjr_>	just a server
Mar 24 15:34:24 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: the US government can seize the server in ireland.
Mar 24 15:34:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.05144351 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:34:31 <mjr_>	hold on wait
Mar 24 15:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.05144351 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:34:39 <benkay>	and any stockholder they can track down they can arguably nail to the wall
Mar 24 15:34:40 <mjr_>	we have jurisdiction to seize irish property now?
Mar 24 15:34:43 <tiberiusiv>	the same way they took megaupload
Mar 24 15:34:49 <benkay>	"jurisdiction"
Mar 24 15:34:50 <mjr_>	yeah
Mar 24 15:34:51 <benkay>	lol
Mar 24 15:34:54 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: they are licensed in ireland?
Mar 24 15:34:54 <mjr_>	kim dotcom is so screwed right now
Mar 24 15:34:59 <mjr_>	i hate getting off scott free
Mar 24 15:35:07 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: European union has agreements with the US.
Mar 24 15:35:08 <mjr_>	and having lots of money
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Mar 24 15:35:19 <mjr_>	julian assange...free
Mar 24 15:35:21 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: the business was shutdown
Mar 24 15:35:24 <tiberiusiv>	thats what matters he still lost tens of millions
Mar 24 15:35:25 <mjr_>	kim dotcom...free
Mar 24 15:35:31 <mjr_>	pirate bay...freee
Mar 24 15:35:36 <mjr_>	hmmm who's been locked up
Mar 24 15:35:39 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: his assets werent unfrozen, and he losts tens of millions
Mar 24 15:35:47 <mjr_>	his assets are in bitcoins
Mar 24 15:35:53 <tiberiusiv>	being a prisoner in a embassy is being free?
Mar 24 15:35:56 <mjr_>	iirc you can't freeze a bitcoin account
Mar 24 15:35:59 <tiberiusiv>	the point is satoshi dice stock can collapse to 0 in 1 day
Mar 24 15:36:14 <mjr_>	i disagree
Mar 24 15:36:14 <tiberiusiv>	but you can shut the business down
Mar 24 15:36:21 <mjr_>	i don't think you can
Mar 24 15:36:23 <tiberiusiv>	collapsing YOUR equity
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Mar 24 15:36:25 <mjr_>	there are hosts all over the world
Mar 24 15:36:31 <mjr_>	and its just a server
Mar 24 15:36:32 <tiberiusiv>	the market doesnt.
Mar 24 15:36:36 <tiberiusiv>	hence the high dividend yield
Mar 24 15:36:50 <tiberiusiv>	high dividend yield = uncertainty about future profits
Mar 24 15:36:58 <mjr_>	ok, to clarify...i think that the risk that the tin foil hat wearers see is overblwon
Mar 24 15:37:07 <mjr_>	hence making this stock extremely undervalued
Mar 24 15:37:12 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: ireland requires a license to play games?
Mar 24 15:37:32 <mjr_>	now obviously, the drones are just one step away right tiberiusiv?
Mar 24 15:37:35 <smickles>	a game of monopoly must fucking suck to get started
Mar 24 15:37:43 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: all legal gaming jurisdictions require the provider to obtain gaming licenses
Mar 24 15:38:06 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: and what does it require to let me download music for free? who licenses that?
Mar 24 15:38:13 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: BTC can be defined as equivalent to casino chips.
Mar 24 15:38:18 <mjr_>	the govt is not all powerful you know
Mar 24 15:38:31 <tiberiusiv>	it would take less then 30seconds to prove BTC are exchangable for fiat
Mar 24 15:38:41 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: you mean gambling, right? from what i've read, the lawyers over there see playing satoshi dice with bitcoin as a game, not gambling
Mar 24 15:38:42 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: well you are breaking the law anonymously
Mar 24 15:38:49 <tiberiusiv>	satoshidice is breaking many laws with  its owners publicly exposed
Mar 24 15:38:52 <mjr_>	i find it hilarious, that the same people who usually decry the inefficiences of govt then when convenient say that they can literally do anything they put their mind to
Mar 24 15:38:55 <tiberiusiv>	big difference.
Mar 24 15:39:15 <tiberiusiv>	smickesL: you dont understand terminology do you? gaming = gambling in what i am referencing...
Mar 24 15:39:32 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: if satoshidice future was more certain, the price would reflect it, it doesnt.
Mar 24 15:39:33 <mjr_>	they can't run healthcare...but they could prob insert a chip into every american
Mar 24 15:39:38 <mjr_>	i agree
Mar 24 15:39:45 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: i totally agree
Mar 24 15:40:01 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: yeah, but they see the difference between gambling and playing poker with zynga credits
Mar 24 15:40:12 <mjr_>	the point of investing, iirc, is to try to play on inefficiences, if everyone knew what it was worth...it owuldn't make sense to buy it for more
Mar 24 15:40:16 <mjr_>	and the price would be frozen
Mar 24 15:40:24 <tiberiusiv>	zynga credits arent easily convertible
Mar 24 15:40:25 <smickles>	and they see playing sd with bitcoin in the category of zynga poker with zynga credits
Mar 24 15:40:44 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: not true, when you buy on the secondary market someone is betting against you by selling to you.
Mar 24 15:40:55 <smickles>	last i knew, zynga didn't need to comply with gambling laws
Mar 24 15:40:55 <mjr_>	yes, and the market proves us right or wrong
Mar 24 15:41:01 <tiberiusiv>	you only truely "invest" by buying on primary market ie an ipo to raise capital for a firm
Mar 24 15:41:07 <mjr_>	which i did
Mar 24 15:41:16 <mjr_>	i have bought on secondary and primary market
Mar 24 15:41:21 <mjr_>	for sdice
Mar 24 15:41:34 <tiberiusiv>	smickes: bitcoin is not in the category of zynga credits.
Mar 24 15:41:49 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: per what irish ruling?
Mar 24 15:41:50 <tiberiusiv>	zynga credits cannot be cashed in and out for dollars
Mar 24 15:41:53 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: the ECB seemd to think it was
Mar 24 15:42:05 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: probably if satoshidice obtains a real gaming license the price will double or tripple
Mar 24 15:42:19 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: that is the point
Mar 24 15:42:35 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: similar to investing in med company hoping for drug approval
Mar 24 15:42:50 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: or new product lines which are as yet unknown
Mar 24 15:42:52 <tiberiusiv>	mjr_: ireland has GAMBLING licenses that you need.
Mar 24 15:43:32 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: i think we are on the same page...they are cheap now, but i expect them to become expensive
Mar 24 15:43:41 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: so i buy them now...instead of when they are expensive
Mar 24 15:43:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6188 @ 0.00066482 = 4.1139 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00065585 = 0.8526 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4712 @ 0.00065584 = 3.0903 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:43:47 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: taking on risk
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Mar 24 15:43:53 <tiberiusiv>	i dont
Mar 24 15:43:54 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: in exchange for higher return
Mar 24 15:43:55 <smickles>	i think they launched in ireland because, if in the future what they are doing is legally considered gambling, they can get a license
Mar 24 15:44:14 <smickles>	currently, legally, from what their lawyers think, it's not gambling
Mar 24 15:44:26 <tiberiusiv>	as long as satoshidice managers are openly operating an illegal casino while having a cashin service in the United states, and a presence in the united states satoshidice is not cheap
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Mar 24 15:44:48 <tiberiusiv>	they should have stayed anonymous.
Mar 24 15:44:56 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: AWESOME! that means in less than four weeks their price should skyrocket
Mar 24 15:44:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00401 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:45:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 61 @ 0.004 = 0.244 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:45:25 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: since as i've said...their won't be anybody in the US
Mar 24 15:45:32 <tiberiusiv>	satoshidice would have been 2-3x imo if the managers stayed fully anonymous
Mar 24 15:45:44 <tiberiusiv>	it wont matter.
Mar 24 15:45:50 <mjr_>	lol ok
Mar 24 15:45:53 <mjr_>	i was going off your points
Mar 24 15:46:05 <tiberiusiv>	the operators are known to authorities at this point
Mar 24 15:46:14 <tiberiusiv>	especially since they openly bragged about the profits a few months ago too
Mar 24 15:46:15 <mjr_>	<tiberiusiv> as long as satoshidice managers are openly operating an illegal casino while having a cashin service in the United states, and a presence in the united states satoshidice is not cheap
Mar 24 15:46:36 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: the cashin service is not leaving.
Mar 24 15:46:44 <mjr_>	and they will not be a part of that
Mar 24 15:46:46 <tiberiusiv>	80%+ of satoshidice players are US residents
Mar 24 15:46:49 <mjr_>	from what i understand they aren't now
Mar 24 15:46:58 <mjr_>	and who cares about the players again?
Mar 24 15:47:14 <mjr_>	they can't shut down people playing, we already established that
Mar 24 15:47:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.05303651 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:47:19 <tiberiusiv>	the point is voorhees is operating the "cashier" and the gaming table with his NAME on it.
Mar 24 15:47:20 <mjr_>	it uses the blockchain
Mar 24 15:47:25 <mjr_>	if they could bitcoin is done anyway
Mar 24 15:47:34 <mjr_>	hmmm...check out bitinstant
Mar 24 15:47:55 <tiberiusiv>	bitinstant allows some american to walk into walmart and fund his sdice
Mar 24 15:48:19 <mjr_>	ok
Mar 24 15:48:20 <tiberiusiv>	Erik Voorhees' Experience
Mar 24 15:48:20 <tiberiusiv>	Director of Marketing and Communications
Mar 24 15:48:20 <tiberiusiv>	BitInstant
Mar 24 15:48:26 <mjr_>	so shut down walmart?
Mar 24 15:48:29 <mjr_>	he does marketing
Mar 24 15:48:29 <tiberiusiv>	his name is on BOTH sdice and the cash in service.
Mar 24 15:48:38 <tiberiusiv>	it doesnt matter hes asking for trouble
Mar 24 15:48:42 <tiberiusiv>	especially in the united states
Mar 24 15:48:49 <mjr_>	whatever
Mar 24 15:48:53 <mjr_>	i'm tired of this
Mar 24 15:48:58 <mjr_>	i'll bet on them
Mar 24 15:48:59 <mjr_>	you bet against
Mar 24 15:49:02 <tiberiusiv>	and the market price of sdice reflects those concerns
Mar 24 15:49:04 <mjr_>	i would even lend you my shares to short
Mar 24 15:49:18 <mjr_>	so i could make more money off FUD
Mar 24 15:49:29 <tiberiusiv>	we will see in 6months
Mar 24 15:49:39 <mjr_>	yes we will
Mar 24 15:50:09 <tiberiusiv>	and your comment about kim dotcom, sure hes free but his business is destroyed.
Mar 24 15:50:09 <mjr_>	i would love the price to fall a bit more
Mar 24 15:50:19 <mjr_>	yeah, mega is done for sure
Mar 24 15:50:28 <tiberiusiv>	so equity value is 0.
Mar 24 15:50:28 <mjr_>	oh wait...
Mar 24 15:50:35 <mjr_>	megaupload is done
Mar 24 15:50:38 <mjr_>	mega just started
Mar 24 15:50:40 <ThickAsThieves>	what happened to Mega?
Mar 24 15:50:42 <mjr_>	can't keep a good man down i guess
Mar 24 15:50:50 <tiberiusiv>	hell never repeat
Mar 24 15:50:55 <mjr_>	especially in NZ or anywhere else in the world
Mar 24 15:50:57 <mjr_>	if you say so
Mar 24 15:51:12 <mjr_>	change your nick to doom_and_gloom_FUD
Mar 24 15:51:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.107 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:51:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1052 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:51:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1051 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:51:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1051 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:51:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:51:27 <mjr_>	if you remember what warren buffet said...
Mar 24 15:51:29 <tiberiusiv>	no im being realistic in a world dominated by government.
Mar 24 15:51:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.102 = 0.204 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:51:35 <mjr_>	what should i do when people are being fearful?
Mar 24 15:51:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.101 = 0.404 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:51:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.100001 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Mar 24 15:51:47 <mjr_>	lol maybe your world is...in my experience
Mar 24 15:51:56 <mjr_>	there are cayman accounts...swiss accounts...
Mar 24 15:52:01 <mjr_>	money laundering
Mar 24 15:52:04 <mjr_>	drug trafficking
Mar 24 15:52:07 <mjr_>	IP theft
Mar 24 15:52:10 <tiberiusiv>	all of them report to US.
Mar 24 15:52:14 <mjr_>	and they do nothing about them
Mar 24 15:52:22 <tiberiusiv>	yes they do
Mar 24 15:52:25 <mjr_>	they can't stop a guy smoking a joint or downloading a song
Mar 24 15:52:43 <tiberiusiv>	nope but they can take down the source
Mar 24 15:52:47 <tiberiusiv>	which has precedent
Mar 24 15:52:47 <mjr_>	yep
Mar 24 15:52:55 <mjr_>	no more columbian coke in US for sure
Mar 24 15:53:00 <mjr_>	they took it out at the source
Mar 24 15:53:03 <tiberiusiv>	theres a reason americans cant open foreign bank accounts
Mar 24 15:53:08 <tiberiusiv>	they did take out the source.
Mar 24 15:53:09 <mjr_>	and that is a physical substance
Mar 24 15:53:13 <mjr_>	yes we can
Mar 24 15:53:16 <smickles>	oh shit
Mar 24 15:53:16 <tiberiusiv>	the original cartel operators from 15 years ago are all dead
Mar 24 15:53:18 <mjr_>	open foreign bank accounts
Mar 24 15:53:25 <tiberiusiv>	go try
Mar 24 15:53:25 <mjr_>	and yet coke is still here
Mar 24 15:53:27 <mjr_>	as is weed
Mar 24 15:53:27 <smickles>	how did i pull off opening a foreign bank account?
Mar 24 15:53:29 <smickles>	!!??
Mar 24 15:53:39 <ThickAsThieves>	arrest him!
Mar 24 15:53:39 <mjr_>	lol you are ridiculously trolling now
Mar 24 15:53:42 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: from another cartel opening up
Mar 24 15:53:48 <mjr_>	exactly
Mar 24 15:53:50 <jurov>	we are betting that they can't take down all sources for everything. too expensive and ineffective
Mar 24 15:53:54 <mjr_>	the source can't be shut down
Mar 24 15:53:55 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: the coke cartels from 15-20 years ago are all DEAD.
Mar 24 15:54:02 <jurov>	soviets tried that, filed and bankrupted in the end
Mar 24 15:54:05 <mjr_>	and yet the market found a way to bring what was requested
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Mar 24 15:54:10 <tiberiusiv>	satoshi can be taken down, and a new one will take its place i agree
Mar 24 15:54:17 <tiberiusiv>	but shareholders of the first will be at 0.
Mar 24 15:54:24 <mjr_>	i doubt that
Mar 24 15:54:28 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: why do you think americans can't open forign bank accounts?
Mar 24 15:54:30 <mjr_>	but again, that is why i risk my capital
Mar 24 15:54:40 <mjr_>	smickles: it's gotta be a troll
Mar 24 15:54:52 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: majority of banks in the world do not want the regulatory headache of dealing with US citizens.
Mar 24 15:54:58 <mjr_>	everyone everywhere knows that we open bank accounts all across the world
Mar 24 15:55:02 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: please read the laws over the last few years
Mar 24 15:55:11 <tiberiusiv>	they changed alot
Mar 24 15:55:15 <jurov>	tiberiusiv: what prevents evoorhees selling satoshidice to someone anon in the worst case?
Mar 24 15:55:24 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: you conclusion does not follow from your premises
Mar 24 15:55:24 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: so wait...since those banks CHOOSE not to deal with headaches...we are not legally able to open an account?
Mar 24 15:55:29 <smickles>	er
Mar 24 15:55:30 <smickles>	tiberiusiv:
Mar 24 15:55:31 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: nothing.
Mar 24 15:55:37 <smickles>	sry ThickAsThieves
Mar 24 15:55:44 <ThickAsThieves>	np
Mar 24 15:55:53 <ThickAsThieves>	you're still under arrest dont worry
Mar 24 15:56:04 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: i opend a french and a UK bank account just a month ago
Mar 24 15:56:07 <mjr_>	it's obvious that the one whose fallacious assumptions is not ThickAsThieves
Mar 24 15:56:11 <smickles>	easy as pie
Mar 24 15:56:35 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: at major banks who comply with US reporting requirements.
Mar 24 15:56:59 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: so you admit your conclusion was just plain wrong then?
Mar 24 15:57:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Mar 24 15:57:01 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: my point was, the market is indicating a unnaturally high risk factor for sdice going forward.
Mar 24 15:57:02 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: it's easy, at the end of the day, to say why things won't work...it only costs you your time on this forum (probably largely offset by the enjoyment you get from trolling), but it's a lot harder to do things that do work
Mar 24 15:57:09 <smickles>	"americans can't open forign bank accounts"
Mar 24 15:57:32 <ThickAsThieves>	he forget to say a %
Mar 24 15:57:33 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: evidenced by the 30% yield
Mar 24 15:57:40 <mjr_>	lol...
Mar 24 15:57:43 <ThickAsThieves>	drink!
Mar 24 15:57:45 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: that is not a great return
Mar 24 15:57:49 <mjr_>	for this economy
Mar 24 15:57:56 <mjr_>	i have dollars lent out at almost 300%
Mar 24 15:58:03 <tiberiusiv>	30% yield on a deflationary asset isnt?
Mar 24 15:58:08 <jurov>	yea that is whole economy problem, not just satoshidice
Mar 24 15:58:08 <mjr_>	bitcoin alone would yield more
Mar 24 15:58:13 <tiberiusiv>	your dollars did not gain 10x.
Mar 24 15:58:25 <tiberiusiv>	satoshi dice dividend has been over 300% in real terms.
Mar 24 15:58:30 <mjr_>	um...if you got in at 17 they gained around 5-6X
Mar 24 15:58:41 <tiberiusiv>	yes exactly.
Mar 24 15:58:56 <tiberiusiv>	if you bought satoshi dice the value of your dividends is in real terms is over 300%
Mar 24 15:59:06 <tiberiusiv>	so how is a 30% yield of BITCOINs not high?
Mar 24 15:59:13 <jurov>	imho much bigger factor than fear of regulation is trust problem
Mar 24 15:59:20 <ThickAsThieves>	why am i not high
Mar 24 15:59:21 <mjr_>	ok it is a good return, and i've been quite happy
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Mar 24 15:59:40 <mjr_>	but i do not conflate the returns of bitcoins with the returns of sdice
Mar 24 15:59:51 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: the point is its HIGH for a reason, if it was such a A+ asset, much more people would be willing to pay a higher price for it
Mar 24 15:59:52 <mjr_>	most of those super high returns i would have realized without bitcoins
Mar 24 16:00:03 <mjr_>	dude: limited market information
Mar 24 16:00:05 <tiberiusiv>	thereby bringing down the dividend yield(of which you have no clue how it works)
Mar 24 16:00:11 <mjr_>	yes i do
Mar 24 16:00:17 <mjr_>	i know a lot better than you it would seem
Mar 24 16:00:26 <mjr_>	are you saying that "bitcoin subsidizes satoshi dice?"
Mar 24 16:00:28 <tiberiusiv>	30% return in a deflationary currency like bitcoin is massive
Mar 24 16:00:29 <mjr_>	no
Mar 24 16:00:33 <mjr_>	their return is 30%
Mar 24 16:00:48 <mjr_>	if i hold bitcoins...i get the return on increase in value of bitcoin
Mar 24 16:00:54 <mjr_>	so you cannot conflate the two
Mar 24 16:01:03 <tiberiusiv>	yes you can.
Mar 24 16:01:11 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoins are scarce.
Mar 24 16:01:21 <tiberiusiv>	30% yield on a SCARCE asset
Mar 24 16:01:24 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: so do american stocks take into account the american dollar when the yreport dividends?
Mar 24 16:01:26 <tiberiusiv>	is massive
Mar 24 16:01:28 <mjr_>	no
Mar 24 16:01:35 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: absolutely dollar matters
Mar 24 16:01:41 <mjr_>	because when evaluating investment opportunities
Mar 24 16:01:49 <mjr_>	you cannot say the entire economy behind this asset
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Mar 24 16:01:58 <mjr_>	is specific to this asset
Mar 24 16:02:01 <tiberiusiv>	what are you talking about?
Mar 24 16:02:01 <mjr_>	for exapmle
Mar 24 16:02:05 <mjr_>	i could invest in mpoe
Mar 24 16:02:09 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoins are hard to get
Mar 24 16:02:10 <mjr_>	and get dividends there
Mar 24 16:02:13 <mjr_>	or mining bonds
Mar 24 16:02:22 <mjr_>	so...i have optoins in my investment choice
Mar 24 16:02:22 <tiberiusiv>	someone paying me 30% a year in income on my capital
Mar 24 16:02:23 <jurov>	duuude we're going in circles. just put your bitcoins where your mouth is.. i can provide some s.dice to shorting, too
Mar 24 16:02:27 <tiberiusiv>	is massive
Mar 24 16:02:34 <mjr_>	lol exactly
Mar 24 16:02:41 <jurov>	unless you fear jail cuz unlicensed securities trading
Mar 24 16:02:41 <mjr_>	what backs this opinion other than hot air?
Mar 24 16:02:44 <mjr_>	0 skin in the game
Mar 24 16:02:59 <ThickAsThieves>	so tiberius, does this mean you think sdice is a sound investment?
Mar 24 16:02:59 <benkay>	who got dat skin
Mar 24 16:03:01 <mjr_>	opinions are like assholes
Mar 24 16:03:01 <tiberiusiv>	mjr i hold sdice shares
Mar 24 16:03:09 <benkay>	where da skin at?
Mar 24 16:03:10 <tiberiusiv>	i dont fall in love with a stock like you do
Mar 24 16:03:11 <mjr_>	that is so irrational
Mar 24 16:03:14 <mjr_>	you should sell now
Mar 24 16:03:18 <tiberiusiv>	thick: its risky
Mar 24 16:03:20 <mjr_>	i'm not in love with it
Mar 24 16:03:29 <tiberiusiv>	thicky: people that tend to be married to a stock usually get wiped out
Mar 24 16:03:29 <mjr_>	its not by any stretch my best performer
Mar 24 16:03:41 <ThickAsThieves>	is it too risky?
Mar 24 16:03:51 <tiberiusiv>	thick: i wouldnt put large $ into it.
Mar 24 16:04:02 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: the point is that management is prob the deciding factor in bitcoin ventures
Mar 24 16:04:03 <ThickAsThieves>	so what DO you invest in?
Mar 24 16:04:23 <tiberiusiv>	thick: well the other btc business's like mpex are more viable then sdice IMO
Mar 24 16:04:39 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, really? if bitcoin isn't game currency
Mar 24 16:04:43 <mjr_>	that is why you diversify
Mar 24 16:04:54 <jurov>	then mpex = unregulated securities trader
Mar 24 16:04:57 <ThickAsThieves>	so mpoe is safest you mean?
Mar 24 16:05:05 <tiberiusiv>	thick: if you go on the bitcoin talk forums there is already threads sprouting up of people whining over their gambling losses.
Mar 24 16:05:15 <ThickAsThieves>	how is that relevant
Mar 24 16:05:20 <jurov>	and that's equally as bas as unregulated gambling
Mar 24 16:05:26 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: nothing stopping some angry upset satoshidice customer tipping off the feds too
Mar 24 16:05:29 <mjr_>	ThickAsThieves: just another non sequitur
Mar 24 16:05:39 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 24 16:05:43 <ThickAsThieves>	tipping of the feds?!
Mar 24 16:05:45 <mjr_>	LOL tipping them off? i thjought they had the swat team ready
Mar 24 16:05:46 <ThickAsThieves>	off
Mar 24 16:05:57 <mjr_>	you men they don't know yet?
Mar 24 16:05:58 <tiberiusiv>	it happens more often then you think
Mar 24 16:05:59 <mjr_>	buy buy buy
Mar 24 16:06:08 <ThickAsThieves>	sell!
Mar 24 16:06:11 <ThickAsThieves>	drink!
Mar 24 16:06:30 <mjr_>	i was under the assumption this whole conversation that the feds were aware of satoshi dice
Mar 24 16:06:34 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: the probability of mpex being around in a few years time is much higher then satoshidice, hence the lower risk profile
Mar 24 16:06:38 <mjr_>	thank god no one has ever thought to tell the fbi about them
Mar 24 16:06:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+]
Mar 24 16:07:18 <jurov>	tiberiusiv how so?
Mar 24 16:07:44 <tiberiusiv>	jurov if you need that explained to you i dont know what to say.
Mar 24 16:07:46 <mjr_>	guys, such a stupid point
Mar 24 16:07:53 <jurov>	if btc is subject to regulation they are both equally illegal
Mar 24 16:07:57 <mjr_>	the exchange they trade on...which is the most restrictive
Mar 24 16:08:01 <mjr_>	thought they were a good investment
Mar 24 16:08:13 <mjr_>	but if they fail miserably...the exchange would still be fine...
Mar 24 16:08:20 <ThickAsThieves>	this is all stupid
Mar 24 16:08:28 <ThickAsThieves>	the closest thing we have to regulation concern
Mar 24 16:08:32 <tiberiusiv>	mpex income is not based on sdice mjr
Mar 24 16:08:33 <ThickAsThieves>	is with fiat exchange points
Mar 24 16:08:49 <mjr_>	ok...so if 33% of the stocks traded on nyse left tomorrow
Mar 24 16:08:51 <tiberiusiv>	mpex cash cow is the options trading
Mar 24 16:08:52 <mjr_>	nyse would be just fine
Mar 24 16:08:59 <jurov>	no tiberiusiv's argument seems that usg inevitably cracks doen on sdice cuz illegal gambling
Mar 24 16:08:59 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: obviously
Mar 24 16:09:02 <tiberiusiv>	sdice can leave mpex with 0 impact
Mar 24 16:09:20 <jurov>	and i'm asking, if illegal gambling, why not illegal securities exchange, too?
Mar 24 16:09:23 <mjr_>	i don't know about 0
Mar 24 16:09:26 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: they will crack down becuase the owners are bragging about profits, residing in the US, and running both the cashier + gaming table.
Mar 24 16:09:27 <ThickAsThieves>	but i thought i was sposed to by mpoe, not sdice
Mar 24 16:09:30 <mjr_>	but i think both mpex and sdice survive
Mar 24 16:09:34 <ThickAsThieves>	this is so confusing!
Mar 24 16:09:37 <jurov>	and mircea isn't bragging?
Mar 24 16:09:47 <jurov>	lol
Mar 24 16:09:51 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: most casinos run the gaming table and the cashier
Mar 24 16:10:03 <tiberiusiv>	and they have permission to operate.
Mar 24 16:10:08 <tiberiusiv>	sdice has none of that
Mar 24 16:10:13 <mjr_>	and they don't operate here
Mar 24 16:10:20 <mjr_>	so...non issue?
Mar 24 16:10:37 <ThickAsThieves>	you dont have permission to buy mpex
Mar 24 16:10:41 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees is a US resident operating a US based cashier service that allows US residents to gamble on an illegal site
Mar 24 16:10:47 <tiberiusiv>	what cant you comprehend?
Mar 24 16:10:50 <mjr_>	operating is a strong word
Mar 24 16:10:54 <ThickAsThieves>	thats a jump
Mar 24 16:11:04 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: i work at a broker dealer...am i operating a broker dealer?
Mar 24 16:11:12 <tiberiusiv>	the market is always right.
Mar 24 16:11:19 <mjr_>	or are the people who OWN the broker dealer operating it
Mar 24 16:11:22 <ThickAsThieves>	tiberius is always right
Mar 24 16:11:22 <mjr_>	HUGE difference
Mar 24 16:11:23 <tiberiusiv>	and its definately indicating concerns
Mar 24 16:11:26 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 24 16:11:50 <tiberiusiv>	anyways we will see
Mar 24 16:12:02 <mjr_>	the point is this... tiberiusiv constantly casts doubt about things, but usually has logical flaws that are obvious...when confronted, he finds other doubts...also flawed
Mar 24 16:12:22 <ThickAsThieves>	its the troll shuffle
Mar 24 16:12:23 <mjr_>	there is no one who OWNS bitinstant who also OWNS SDICE
Mar 24 16:12:24 <smickles>	< tiberiusiv> what cant you comprehend? << i think they feel you are misrepresenting what is happening
Mar 24 16:12:24 <tiberiusiv>	if i was wrong, sdice would be 2-3x higher and still offering a great return
Mar 24 16:12:25 <mjr_>	that we know
Mar 24 16:12:36 <mjr_>	oh no
Mar 24 16:12:49 <mjr_>	i think your FUD and others ignorance will keep it trading low for quite a whiloe
Mar 24 16:12:55 <tiberiusiv>	notice how the dividend yields of the other bitcoin based business's are nowhere near sdice?
Mar 24 16:12:57 <mjr_>	till good news sstarts coming out
Mar 24 16:13:01 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, can't it be just people cashing out of btc generally? all mpex assets went down recently
Mar 24 16:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [+]
Mar 24 16:13:11 <mjr_>	yes...not to mention...
Mar 24 16:13:22 <mjr_>	you have to realize that some people have not made money on SDICE
Mar 24 16:13:25 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: yes but mpex is valued higher then sdice with lower profits...
Mar 24 16:13:30 <mjr_>	it has plunged from 75 to like 40
Mar 24 16:13:36 <ThickAsThieves>	there so many places to buy sdice, all you need to do is arb yourself down to market value
Mar 24 16:13:39 <mjr_>	and dividends in feb where not the best
Mar 24 16:13:54 <mjr_>	march divs will prob be non-existent
Mar 24 16:14:01 <mjr_>	so short term investors got out
Mar 24 16:14:08 <tiberiusiv>	in theory sdice should be the most valuable BTC company at the moment
Mar 24 16:14:26 <mjr_>	those who appreciate the fact that anyone with that much market share and that great profit margin CAN"T be that cheap
Mar 24 16:14:52 <mjr_>	and who see your FUD for what it is...know that this is a bargain
Mar 24 16:15:03 <kakobrekla>	tiberiusiv the value of the company is not measured in dividends
Mar 24 16:15:06 <mjr_>	similar to buying bitcoins at $3
Mar 24 16:15:08 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: you know voorhees isn't even the largest shareholder of SD, right? i think he owns significantly less than half
Mar 24 16:15:27 <mjr_>	he also isn't an owner of bitinstant
Mar 24 16:15:30 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: great. hes a major player with his name everywhere..
Mar 24 16:15:32 <mjr_>	from what i've read
Mar 24 16:15:38 <tiberiusiv>	it means nothing mjr
Mar 24 16:15:53 <mjr_>	lol: the "major player" herein referred to as the party of the first
Mar 24 16:15:54 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 24 16:15:57 <tiberiusiv>	kakobrekla: dividend yield signals many things
Mar 24 16:16:07 <kakobrekla>	dividends means shit
Mar 24 16:16:12 <kakobrekla>	got it?
Mar 24 16:16:21 <tiberiusiv>	you purchase a stock for its future income.
Mar 24 16:16:24 <mjr_>	yes
Mar 24 16:16:32 <mjr_>	dividends are not the most important...
Mar 24 16:16:43 <mjr_>	look at march...0 dividends
Mar 24 16:16:53 <ThickAsThieves>	obv more than one thing factors in
Mar 24 16:16:53 <kakobrekla>	tiberiusiv you have lots to learn
Mar 24 16:17:01 <tiberiusiv>	kako: no i dont
Mar 24 16:17:09 <mjr_>	by your logic...with a 0% return on investment...it must be the best deal ever
Mar 24 16:17:11 <kakobrekla>	yeah you do :)
Mar 24 16:17:13 <ThickAsThieves>	tib just keeps pointing out the one thing no one is mentioniong at the moment
Mar 24 16:17:17 <ThickAsThieves>	and shifts the conv there
Mar 24 16:17:19 <tiberiusiv>	sdice is more profitable then mpex yet is a less valuable firm for a reason
Mar 24 16:17:32 <tiberiusiv>	thats called uncertainty
Mar 24 16:17:45 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: why is it illegal to play games with bitcoin?
Mar 24 16:18:04 <smickles>	why isn't it illegal to play games with wow gold or others like that?
Mar 24 16:18:15 <ThickAsThieves>	you cant just declare its uncertainty
Mar 24 16:18:28 <mjr_>	think the point that they are making is that sdice is not converting the btc for cash
Mar 24 16:19:47 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: a simple example, a US blue chip like johnson and johnson will tend to have a lower dividend yield then a lesser quality firm
Mar 24 16:20:15 <tiberiusiv>	why? because you are more certain to recieve the income from JNJ in the future
Mar 24 16:20:23 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: you are assuming financial reporting that is widespread, and liquidity that is many orders of magnitude higher than what we have
Mar 24 16:20:39 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: also...investor savvy
Mar 24 16:20:39 <tiberiusiv>	sdice is one of the most liquid btc assets is it not?
Mar 24 16:21:00 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: which is like saying it is less liquid than most pink sheet stocks?
Mar 24 16:21:16 <tiberiusiv>	i dont get what that has to do with anything
Mar 24 16:21:24 <mjr_>	but yeah, nice comparison to a NYSE DOW JONES COMPANY
Mar 24 16:21:25 <smickles>	I really don't think what SD is doing is illegal, and I'd like to have a firm grasp of why some people do
Mar 24 16:21:27 <tiberiusiv>	theres no other BTC firms that are paying 10%+ a year...
Mar 24 16:21:45 <mjr_>	asicminer?
Mar 24 16:21:57 <tiberiusiv>	whats it paying?
Mar 24 16:22:03 <mjr_>	also...your returns are decided by what YOU payed
Mar 24 16:22:09 <mjr_>	don't know
Mar 24 16:22:14 <mjr_>	but pretty sure more than 10%
Mar 24 16:22:19 <mjr_>	cavirtex already doubled for some
Mar 24 16:22:37 <mjr_>	mpoe might be around 10% a year...not sure
Mar 24 16:22:45 <Namworld>	I don't consider anything regarding moving Bitcoins illegal and won't until I'm told to. For now it's just some virtual tokens.
Mar 24 16:22:54 <mjr_>	Namworld: Amen
Mar 24 16:22:58 <Namworld>	So SD is also not doing anything wrong
Mar 24 16:23:01 <tiberiusiv>	casino chips are tokens too
Mar 24 16:23:15 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: that you can cash out through the casino with
Mar 24 16:23:20 <tiberiusiv>	based on that premise people can run gaming tables in their basements using tokens
Mar 24 16:23:28 <tiberiusiv>	and have someone operate a cashier service in another town
Mar 24 16:23:29 <Namworld>	Casino chips have a fixed USD value and are sold/bought by the casino
Mar 24 16:23:40 <mjr_>	hint hint...they do, it's called poker night
Mar 24 16:23:45 <Namworld>	They're a proxy for USD for easier use at the table
Mar 24 16:23:59 <tiberiusiv>	poker night is allowed as long as its not a regular occurance
Mar 24 16:24:06 <tiberiusiv>	and you arent allowed to take a rake
Mar 24 16:24:10 <mjr_>	once weekly with your mates?
Mar 24 16:24:19 <ThickAsThieves>	also its a good example because casinos are exchanging fiat for chips anyway
Mar 24 16:24:22 <mjr_>	actually card tables are legal
Mar 24 16:24:22 <tiberiusiv>	theres nothing wrong with that
Mar 24 16:24:23 <smickles>	casino chips are provided in an wholly different environment than Bitcoin
Mar 24 16:24:24 <ThickAsThieves>	whcih sdice does not do
Mar 24 16:24:37 <Namworld>	BTC is virtual token with no fixed value. Some people happen to want to buy it. They don't have a definite USD value however, they're just valueless tokens unbacked by any entity.
Mar 24 16:24:41 <mjr_>	since poker is a game of skill in a lot of jurisdictions
Mar 24 16:24:46 <smickles>	it's a complete shit analogy: pokerchips and bitcoin
Mar 24 16:24:49 <tiberiusiv>	they arent valueless
Mar 24 16:25:00 <mjr_>	see there is the non sequitur
Mar 24 16:25:07 <mjr_>	the casino BACKS the value of the chip
Mar 24 16:25:11 <mjr_>	sdice DOESN"T
Mar 24 16:25:28 <mjr_>	the casino cannot say "those chips are worth 30
Mar 24 16:25:30 <tiberiusiv>	they dont have to
Mar 24 16:25:32 <mjr_>	% more today
Mar 24 16:25:45 <mjr_>	fixed exchange set by and guaranteed by the issuer
Mar 24 16:25:49 <mjr_>	another distinction
Mar 24 16:25:50 <Namworld>	They're not in the sense that people want to buy them so you can sell them. But there's no one backing Bitcoins.
Mar 24 16:25:50 <tiberiusiv>	btc can be freely exchanged for dollars, just becuase sdice isnt doing the exchanging doesnt mean anything
Mar 24 16:25:53 <mjr_>	the casino ISSUES
Mar 24 16:26:07 <tiberiusiv>	mjr you are argueing semantics
Mar 24 16:26:08 <mjr_>	a chip is issued by a casino
Mar 24 16:26:28 <mjr_>	tiberiusiv: another flawed argument that causes you to jump to another shaky brance
Mar 24 16:26:30 <Namworld>	There's nothing in a Bitcoin and no backing. In that sense, they're valueless until sold.
Mar 24 16:26:31 <mjr_>	branch
Mar 24 16:26:45 <tiberiusiv>	look at this example. your friend living 10 miles from you, sells chips which can be used at YOUR basement casino far away from him
Mar 24 16:26:51 <tiberiusiv>	you can say its just play money
Mar 24 16:26:52 <Namworld>	If no one takes it for money, they're worth nothing. No one backs it.
Mar 24 16:27:08 <smickles>	remember that site that allowed trading 'stock' in any website?
Mar 24 16:27:30 <smickles>	you could buy/sell shares in curry.com, or w/e
Mar 24 16:27:41 <Namworld>	They're not unlike game currencies. They're worth nothing, just used in a game. You don't pay tax on what you earn in a virtual game.
Mar 24 16:27:41 <mjr_>	i'll leave it where kakobrekla was smart enough to...you don't really know what you are talking about
Mar 24 16:27:44 <smickles>	and people would pay actual money for those shares
Mar 24 16:27:51 <smickles>	that wasn't illegal
Mar 24 16:28:15 <tiberiusiv>	as i said, the market shares my opinion of higher then normal risk with sdice shares.
Mar 24 16:28:15 <smickles>	it wasn't illegal just because there was a real money market for the stock
Mar 24 16:28:18 <mjr_>	this would be a great example of logical fallacies though if anyone saves the log
Mar 24 16:28:19 <tiberiusiv>	thats all that matters discussion over
Mar 24 16:28:23 <mjr_>	straw man arguments
Mar 24 16:28:29 <mjr_>	false dichotomires
Mar 24 16:28:31 <mjr_>	dichotomies
Mar 24 16:28:47 <Namworld>	Well let him be with his beliefs. He can invest however he wants.
Mar 24 16:28:51 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: if the market did not share concerns about sdice the price would be 2-3x higher.
Mar 24 16:29:02 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: how do you prove that
Mar 24 16:29:03 <smickles>	?
Mar 24 16:29:05 <smickles>	srsly?
Mar 24 16:29:07 <mjr_>	the one fatal flaw is this
Mar 24 16:29:12 <tiberiusiv>	i told you from the high dividend yield
Mar 24 16:29:16 <mjr_>	you say the market is always right
Mar 24 16:29:19 <mjr_>	that cannot be
Mar 24 16:29:22 <mjr_>	if it changes
Mar 24 16:29:25 <tiberiusiv>	its abnormaly high meaning FUTURE income is shaky at best
Mar 24 16:29:39 <tiberiusiv>	if sdice was a licensed company it would probably be much higher
Mar 24 16:29:41 <mjr_>	the market is not perfectly efficient
Mar 24 16:29:45 <smickles>	yea, they could have a run of bad luck
Mar 24 16:29:49 <mjr_>	it is not perfectly liquid
Mar 24 16:29:52 <smickles>	there income is not guaranteed
Mar 24 16:29:57 <smickles>	er, spelling
Mar 24 16:30:01 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: i know nothing is guaranteed
Mar 24 16:30:10 <mjr_>	the point is, that people who EXPECT things to look different in the future
Mar 24 16:30:12 <tiberiusiv>	but its abormally high yield
Mar 24 16:30:19 <tiberiusiv>	especially for a proven moneymaker thats around for about 12months now
Mar 24 16:30:21 <mjr_>	abnormally high is subjective
Mar 24 16:30:24 <smickles>	also there have been concerns about the higher usd/btc impacting their volume
Mar 24 16:30:32 <tiberiusiv>	confidence should be much higher
Mar 24 16:30:41 <mjr_>	well dollar value of bets has been increasing if i remember correctly\
Mar 24 16:30:50 <tiberiusiv>	yes exactly
Mar 24 16:30:52 <mjr_>	although btc has gone down
Mar 24 16:30:55 <smickles>	i believe the uncertainty lies elsewhere
Mar 24 16:31:01 <smickles>	not in their legal status
Mar 24 16:31:15 <tiberiusiv>	if it did the yield would be 15%
Mar 24 16:31:15 <tiberiusiv>	not 25-30+
Mar 24 16:31:17 <mjr_>	lol, to hold the majority of people who use btc to the level of expertise of a mature market is simply foolish
Mar 24 16:31:28 <smickles>	and also, the market is fickel, ;you can't use that as evidence to their legality
Mar 24 16:31:30 <tiberiusiv>	so now you are blaming the market mjr
Mar 24 16:31:39 <mjr_>	for fucks sake, it typically trades its lowest right before divs, and higher right after
Mar 24 16:31:47 <tiberiusiv>	market participants are simply stating an opinion with X price
Mar 24 16:31:56 <tiberiusiv>	mjr: all stocks do that
Mar 24 16:32:03 <mjr_>	ok...with 5 market participants...how well can we do price discovery
Mar 24 16:32:04 <tiberiusiv>	its called ex-dividend
Mar 24 16:32:08 <mjr_>	NO...
Mar 24 16:32:17 <tiberiusiv>	sdice has 5 market participants?
Mar 24 16:32:18 <mjr_>	ex dividend means i trade HIGHEST right before dividend
Mar 24 16:32:25 <mjr_>	right after
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Mar 24 16:32:36 <mjr_>	after dividend, price is low
Mar 24 16:32:39 <mjr_>	because of TVM
Mar 24 16:32:49 <mjr_>	before it is higher, pricing in immediate payoff
Mar 24 16:32:54 <mjr_>	sdice does the exact opposite
Mar 24 16:32:57 <tiberiusiv>	sdice does decent volumes doesnt it?
Mar 24 16:33:00 <tiberiusiv>	its on like 3 exchanges
Mar 24 16:33:03 <mjr_>	sell off BEFORE dividend
Mar 24 16:33:07 <mjr_>	big buys right after
Mar 24 16:33:19 <mjr_>	look at its price over time
Mar 24 16:33:22 <tiberiusiv>	if i was voorhees id be on a plane along time ago
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Mar 24 16:33:29 <tiberiusiv>	thats all im saying
Mar 24 16:33:37 <mjr_>	that is obvious evidence of immature market participants
Mar 24 16:33:41 <smickles>	so tiberiusiv care to say why it's illegal?
Mar 24 16:33:46 <mjr_>	who don't understand TVM
Mar 24 16:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.74479996 BTC [-]
Mar 24 16:34:18 <mjr_>	have you found a place that accepts btc for aluminium foil?
Mar 24 16:34:43 <smickles>	i mean, we were talking about that, then you tried to say that the market on S.DICE is evidence of SD's illegality
Mar 24 16:35:00 <smickles>	S.DICE is just what one shareholder of SD is doing with some of his shares
Mar 24 16:36:01 <mjr_>	that is the point...if you think most people, and obviously most people in this convo are excluded from this point, who trade sdice do any sort of fundamental analysis or even have traded stocks before...i'd say that is optimistic
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Mar 24 16:36:12 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: also, evooorhees has been on a plane a long time ago
Mar 24 16:36:20 <mjr_>	majority are learning finance for the first time
Mar 24 16:36:23 <smickles>	he went to china, morocco, paris
Mar 24 16:36:26 <smickles>	vegas
Mar 24 16:36:30 <mjr_>	dubai
Mar 24 16:36:41 <smickles>	at these plases he sold shars of SD
Mar 24 16:36:47 <mjr_>	and soon parts southern
Mar 24 16:37:06 <smickles>	he got backing from major gamblers and indirect money from one casino
Mar 24 16:37:16 <smickles>	he advertised
Mar 24 16:37:25 <smickles>	in print media, conventions etc
Mar 24 16:37:41 <mjr_>	he's also obtained legal advice in this matter
Mar 24 16:37:47 <smickles>	all this outside the realm of S.DICE
Mar 24 16:37:48 <mjr_>	ie. people who are payed to review stuff like what you spout
Mar 24 16:38:01 <smickles>	i don't think S.DICE represents the market value of SD at all
Mar 24 16:38:18 <smickles>	considering >90% of sales have been off of S.DICE
Mar 24 16:38:33 <smickles>	but all this is a side issue
Mar 24 16:38:38 <smickles>	why do you think it's illegal?
Mar 24 16:38:47 <mjr_>	thank you smickles
Mar 24 16:40:37 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: i meant not being a US resident
Mar 24 16:42:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2 = 6 BTC [+]
Mar 24 16:43:31 <smickles>	do you think it's illegal?
Mar 24 16:43:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0197 BTC [-]
Mar 24 16:44:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009899 BTC [+]
Mar 24 16:44:11 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: i already explained my position.
Mar 24 16:44:17 <tiberiusiv>	quit going in circles
Mar 24 16:44:28 <smickles>	ok, so you don't have a good reason then
Mar 24 16:45:00 <smickles>	the reason I was asking was that I don't believe you gave good justification for your position
Mar 24 16:45:01 <tiberiusiv>	i already told you, voorhees is running an illegal gaming operation under US laws, while being a subject of the united states.
Mar 24 16:45:05 <tiberiusiv>	you play with fire you get burnt.
Mar 24 16:45:36 <mjr_>	"Well, if activity is unusual 10 times a day then something is wrong with your unusually-mometer" re: mt. gox's response to lag...
Mar 24 16:45:36 <smickles>	so the owners of forign casino's cant be in america?
Mar 24 16:45:38 <kakobrekla>	gonna be a great publicity for SD
Mar 24 16:45:50 <smickles>	even assuming SD qualifies as a casion
Mar 24 16:45:57 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: they tend not to be
Mar 24 16:46:06 <tiberiusiv>	or are anonymous
Mar 24 16:46:20 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: that seems quite wrong
Mar 24 16:46:43 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: most major online gaming places are licensed in a particular jurisdiction
Mar 24 16:46:51 <Namworld>	In Canada, you're taxed on 50% of your gains. Not 100%. But you can get as much as 43% tax on that 50% if you're in the top income bracket. So as high as 21.5% on gains... hmm, interesting.
Mar 24 16:46:53 <tiberiusiv>	and incorporated in anonymous areas
Mar 24 16:47:02 <Namworld>	I guess it's not that bad... but not excellent
Mar 24 16:47:17 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: quebec have added capital gains on top of that?
Mar 24 16:47:30 <tiberiusiv>	quebec has its own revenue collection
Mar 24 16:48:00 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: so the people who own the casino's in morocco can't come to america w/o fear of being arrested?
Mar 24 16:48:25 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: sure they can come to US
Mar 24 16:48:40 <smickles>	w/o fear of being arrested?
Mar 24 16:48:50 <tiberiusiv>	why would they be they arent doing anything illegal
Mar 24 16:48:56 <smickles>	exactly
Mar 24 16:49:06 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees is and he is under US jurisdiction
Mar 24 16:49:10 <tiberiusiv>	not egypt
Mar 24 16:49:26 <Namworld>	So does other provinces. They have provincial tax/sales tax depending on provinces
Mar 24 16:49:28 <smickles>	SD doesn't operate in 'merica
Mar 24 16:49:32 <Namworld>	I'd have to check for Quebec
Mar 24 16:49:39 <tiberiusiv>	online gaming houses that cater to US customers, tend to stay away from the US..
Mar 24 16:49:42 <tiberiusiv>	the personal
Mar 24 16:50:02 <tiberiusiv>	and that lesson was taught during black thursday or friday
Mar 24 16:50:07 <tiberiusiv>	when those poker sites got owned
Mar 24 16:50:20 <tiberiusiv>	the warning is loud and clear smickles.
Mar 24 16:50:36 <smickles>	if you alread said why you think SD is illegal, can you at least give me a timecode so i can grep it
Mar 24 16:50:57 <tiberiusiv>	i dont think its illegal, im simply stating the position of the US government
Mar 24 16:51:07 <tiberiusiv>	of which voorhees is a subject to since he is residing there
Mar 24 16:51:15 <tiberiusiv>	and most of his customers are from there
Mar 24 16:51:45 <mjr_>	you referenced black friday
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Mar 24 16:51:56 <tiberiusiv>	it wouldnt take longer then 1 month for motivated US authorities to put a case against voorhees together
Mar 24 16:51:56 <mjr_>	which is when BANKS couldn't transfer money to or from online gambling sights
Mar 24 16:51:57 <smickles>	why is SD illegal under us law then?
Mar 24 16:52:07 <tiberiusiv>	even if voorhees won the case
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Mar 24 16:52:12 <tiberiusiv>	the business would still be ruined
Mar 24 16:52:17 <mjr_>	why?
Mar 24 16:52:28 <tiberiusiv>	during the years of the ongoing trial..
Mar 24 16:52:28 <smickles>	i bet it'd be running the whole time the case went on
Mar 24 16:52:36 <mjr_>	i won! first big win for bitcoin...oh no one wants the company?
Mar 24 16:52:40 <tiberiusiv>	maybe a different variant
Mar 24 16:52:48 <smickles>	no
Mar 24 16:52:50 <smickles>	SD proper
Mar 24 16:52:52 <tiberiusiv>	would be running, by more cautious people
Mar 24 16:53:00 <smickles>	no
Mar 24 16:53:02 <smickles>	SD proper
Mar 24 16:53:10 <mjr_>	why do i keep getting sucked back in (FUD, obvious refutations, repeat)
Mar 24 16:53:30 <smickles>	SD would likely keep running at the same BTC addresses the whole time
Mar 24 16:53:58 <mjr_>	that is the point...btc can't really be stopped from flowing to SDICE
Mar 24 16:54:01 <smickles>	even if voorhees were jailed the whole time
Mar 24 16:54:08 <mjr_>	nor could they seize the btc
Mar 24 16:54:26 <mjr_>	which is the only part of black friday that had any sting
Mar 24 16:55:05 <tiberiusiv>	point is the value of the shares would collapse
Mar 24 16:55:14 <tiberiusiv>	what happens later makes no difference
Mar 24 16:55:21 <mjr_>	yep, panic can do that...then stronger hands buy
Mar 24 16:55:21 <tiberiusiv>	there would be losses
Mar 24 16:55:28 <mjr_>	and the price rebounds
Mar 24 16:55:42 <mjr_>	you only take a "loss" when you sell
Mar 24 16:56:07 <mjr_>	except in cases of mark to market which is usually due to margin requirements
Mar 24 16:56:08 <smickles>	so if voorhees is jailed, and the service keeps running as if nothing happened, you think the price would drop for any significant lenght of time?
Mar 24 16:56:39 <tiberiusiv>	i think mpex shares took a dive from missing out on 2 major IPOs
Mar 24 16:56:45 <mjr_>	but wait...assuming he is not in the US...you are saying the try to extradite?
Mar 24 16:56:49 <smickles>	that would be a real show of strength to my mind, SD keeps going even after the US GOV't tried to shut it down
Mar 24 16:56:59 <tiberiusiv>	that cavirtex and asicminer
Mar 24 16:57:24 <tiberiusiv>	so is havelock a stockexchange or funds?
Mar 24 16:57:29 <smickles>	hah, you still think S.DICE represents the value of SD shares?
Mar 24 16:57:30 <mjr_>	did not realize that asic miner IPO'd recently
Mar 24 16:57:44 <tiberiusiv>	or whenever they listed
Mar 24 16:57:44 <mjr_>	thought they started on GLBSE
Mar 24 16:57:46 <smickles>	S.DICE doesn't even have voting power
Mar 24 16:57:56 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: they arn't listed
Mar 24 16:58:09 <smickles>	read S.DICE's contract
Mar 24 16:58:10 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: when what is the asicminer?
Mar 24 16:58:13 <tiberiusiv>	then*
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Mar 24 16:58:32 <tiberiusiv>	smickles im talking about asicminer..
Mar 24 16:58:37 <mjr_>	thought asicminer was on btctc.co or however its spelled and bitfunder
Mar 24 16:58:45 <smickles>	all the assicminer shares out on 'the market' arn't actual shares of asicminer eithr
Mar 24 16:58:58 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: you have severely misunderstood what all is hapening here
Mar 24 16:59:01 <smickles>	er tiberiusiv
Mar 24 16:59:02 <tiberiusiv>	so if sdice doesnt represent sd shares what do they represent?
Mar 24 16:59:10 <smickles>	it's a game
Mar 24 16:59:18 <tiberiusiv>	ok
Mar 24 16:59:19 <smickles>	read the contract
Mar 24 16:59:31 <smickles>	read the contract of all those asicminer things
Mar 24 16:59:31 <tiberiusiv>	i asked you what the shares represent
Mar 24 16:59:39 <smickles>	tokens in the game
Mar 24 16:59:50 <smickles>	which get you a share of game profits
Mar 24 16:59:54 <smickles>	which are bitcoins
Mar 24 17:00:13 <smickles>	asicminer proper is a private company
Mar 24 17:00:16 <tiberiusiv>	which are fully convertible into fiat currency
Mar 24 17:00:25 <smickles>	anything is convertible to fiat
Mar 24 17:00:37 <smickles>	wow gold and zynga credits included
Mar 24 17:00:41 <ThickAsThieves>	it is the party tht converts it that govs are looking at
Mar 24 17:00:48 <ThickAsThieves>	not sdice
Mar 24 17:00:57 <tiberiusiv>	no they arent
Mar 24 17:01:02 <smickles>	yes they are
Mar 24 17:01:04 <tiberiusiv>	they simply stated taht exchanges have to follow AML laws
Mar 24 17:01:09 <tiberiusiv>	which the major ones already did
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Mar 24 17:01:21 <smickles>	or, sry, confusion in who you were talking at
Mar 24 17:01:25 <tiberiusiv>	nobody stated online gambling is now legal if you use bitcoins.
Mar 24 17:01:39 <tiberiusiv>	show a case precedent
Mar 24 17:02:02 <ThickAsThieves>	so if WoW has a poker game inside using WoW gold, thats illegal too?
Mar 24 17:02:20 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: why is the use of wow gold legal even tho you can convert them to fiat and the issuer doesn't do that conversion
Mar 24 17:02:31 <tiberiusiv>	if they are running commercial gambling ventures then yes it would be thickasthieves
Mar 24 17:02:38 <tiberiusiv>	if its a casual gathering of friends its perfectly legal
Mar 24 17:02:48 <tiberiusiv>	once you start operating a gambling house for the sole purpose of profit it becomes illegal
Mar 24 17:03:16 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: theres nothing illegal about bitcoins themselves nor exchanging them
Mar 24 17:03:18 <smickles>	look at what blizzard is doing, you play a game, there is a chance you get coins
Mar 24 17:03:18 <ThickAsThieves>	if Microsoft sells me a poker exe and accepts fiat for that purchase is that illegal too?
Mar 24 17:03:20 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Mar 24 17:03:35 <tiberiusiv>	no they are earning $ from software
Mar 24 17:03:37 <smickles>	you can sell those coins for fiat
Mar 24 17:03:38 <tiberiusiv>	not from gambling proceeds.
Mar 24 17:04:10 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: you arent logging onto WoW to play poker or toss dice, or guess numbers.
Mar 24 17:04:11 <smickles>	how is SD not earning btc from their software?
Mar 24 17:04:27 <tiberiusiv>	they arent selling software
Mar 24 17:04:35 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: it's still up to chance if and how many coins you get in wow
Mar 24 17:04:37 <tiberiusiv>	they earn a % of total bet volume
Mar 24 17:05:06 <smickles>	also, blizzard makes money off of the gold directly in the real money markets
Mar 24 17:05:20 <tiberiusiv>	theres nothing wrong with that
Mar 24 17:05:20 <smickles>	(or is that diablo?)
Mar 24 17:05:38 <mjr_>	point is, to really simplify...whoever converts bears resonsibility for tax and aml
Mar 24 17:05:42 <smickles>	so they take a cut of people using wow gold, it's ok
Mar 24 17:05:45 <tiberiusiv>	blizzard is not running a game of chance
Mar 24 17:05:45 <tiberiusiv>	where they promise people payout multiples
Mar 24 17:05:49 <mjr_>	sdice...no conversion, no responsibility
Mar 24 17:05:51 <smickles>	sd takes a cut of people using bitcoin, it's not ok
Mar 24 17:05:54 <ThickAsThieves>	diablo i think
Mar 24 17:06:15 <mjr_>	actually same exact standard that almost all btc gambling has been operating under
Mar 24 17:06:17 <mjr_>	bitzino
Mar 24 17:06:19 <mjr_>	etc
Mar 24 17:06:21 <tiberiusiv>	smickes: SD dice takes a cut from running a game of chance and promoting large payout multiples
Mar 24 17:06:23 <ThickAsThieves>	diablo legendary weapons are a game of chance right?
Mar 24 17:06:26 <ThickAsThieves>	cant you sell those?
Mar 24 17:06:49 <tiberiusiv>	you arent playing a game of chance to obtain wow items with promised payout multiples
Mar 24 17:06:58 <tiberiusiv>	wow is not gambling.
Mar 24 17:07:04 <tiberiusiv>	sd is
Mar 24 17:07:16 <ThickAsThieves>	wow does share the % likelihood
Mar 24 17:07:18 <ThickAsThieves>	of drops
Mar 24 17:07:24 <ThickAsThieves>	same for diablo
Mar 24 17:07:33 <tiberiusiv>	quit argueing ridiculous statements and read the laws. if sd dice was legal everyone would have ran "token" games in the US.
Mar 24 17:07:46 <ThickAsThieves>	you must be mistaking me for a mirror
Mar 24 17:07:53 <tiberiusiv>	long before BTC
Mar 24 17:08:00 <mjr_>	evenso...there is no precedent for an offshore company doing business in another currency to be under the jurisdiction of an american justice system unless they hold and or convert from USD
Mar 24 17:08:47 <ThickAsThieves>	i bet there are tons of foreign digital currencies US cant touch
Mar 24 17:09:17 <ThickAsThieves>	just internal schemes in games, or company promotions
Mar 24 17:09:48 <ThickAsThieves>	anywho i cant believe the conv is still going
Mar 24 17:09:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i have shit to do
Mar 24 17:09:55 <ThickAsThieves>	gl guys
Mar 24 17:09:56 <mjr_>	i know...so bored
Mar 24 17:10:12 <mjr_>	notice how he no longer brings up bitinstant/sdice conspiracy
Mar 24 17:13:24 <smickles>	pay money to play a game of chance and if you win you get money back; that happens in blizzard games
Mar 24 17:13:36 <mjr_>	yeah
Mar 24 17:13:47 <mjr_>	i can't keep talking about this anymore
Mar 24 17:13:53 <mjr_>	same thing over and over
Mar 24 17:14:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 24 17:14:06 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227872 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1951 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 10 hours, 12 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7901792.01955 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.01071
Mar 24 17:14:17 <smickles>	pay (what the us consideres) non-money to play a game of chance and get non-money back, it's illegal?
Mar 24 17:14:18 <mjr_>	i'm very interested in what is going to happen with the credit markets in bitcoins economy
Mar 24 17:15:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.07 BTC [-]
Mar 24 17:15:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
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Mar 24 17:16:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 24 17:16:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.21001, Best ask: 71.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 71.21001, 24 hour volume: 42847.49345213, 24 hour low: 62.25139, 24 hour high: 72.49999, 24 hour vwap: 67.90892
Mar 24 17:19:47 <smickles>	ya know, i don't think tiberiusiv is a troll. troll keep going when trolled, don't they?
Mar 24 17:21:47 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 24 17:21:54 <smickles>	but seriously, did i miss something or did they basically say that SD was illegal because it's online gambling, and it's online gambling b/c it's online gambling
Mar 24 17:21:54 <Namworld>	He doesn't appear as a troll...
Mar 24 17:21:57 <smickles>	?
Mar 24 17:23:32 <tiberiusiv>	why are you still repeating yourself smickles? the covnersation is over
Mar 24 17:23:50 <tiberiusiv>	whose trolling who
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Mar 24 17:24:27 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: just because you don't want to participate anymore, doesn't mean the conversation is over
Mar 24 17:24:51 <tiberiusiv>	so dont talk about me thanks.
Mar 24 17:25:01 <smickles>	you must be new to the internet
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Mar 24 17:28:29 <tiberiusiv>	wager me 100 BTC that sdice gets in trouble in under 24months
Mar 24 17:28:31 <smickles>	i don't mean to be rude, but i can talk about you and the ideas you presented
Mar 24 17:28:31 <smickles>	i wasn't at the keyboard the whole time, so i might have missed tiberiusiv's reasoning as to why SD is gambling or gambling in the order that it needs to be regulated
Mar 24 17:28:31 <smickles>	i want to know that
Mar 24 17:28:32 <smickles>	100 btc is a significant portion of my btc, what are the terms?
Mar 24 17:28:33 <tiberiusiv>	sdice and pals get into trouble
Mar 24 17:28:33 <smickles>	and would you accept nanotube as escrow?
Mar 24 17:28:33 <tiberiusiv>	with US authorities
Mar 24 17:28:33 <tiberiusiv>	no im not going to give some stranger 100btc for 2 years to hold
Mar 24 17:28:33 <smickles>	"get into trouble with US authorities" is a bit too vague
Mar 24 17:28:33 <tiberiusiv>	lol.
Mar 24 17:28:33 <smickles>	who would you accept as an escrow?
Mar 24 17:28:33 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: they could get into trouble for pot or somehting
Mar 24 17:28:34 <smickles>	your statement was vague
Mar 24 17:28:34 <tiberiusiv>	my statement is not vague, they get in trouble for what they are doing
Mar 24 17:28:38 <tiberiusiv>	not for pot
Mar 24 17:28:41 <tiberiusiv>	for gambling
Mar 24 17:28:55 <smickles>	not for running a gambling operation?
Mar 24 17:29:16 <tiberiusiv>	for anything that revolves around gambling
Mar 24 17:29:18 <smickles>	how ofter do you do this sort of thing? you seem new
Mar 24 17:29:27 <Namworld>	For running SD would be a clearer and simpler way to put it...
Mar 24 17:29:27 <tiberiusiv>	the illiegality of it
Mar 24 17:29:36 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 24 17:29:43 <smickles>	ok, who would you accept as an escrow?
Mar 24 17:29:49 <tiberiusiv>	100btc bet and no im not sending my coins to anyone for 2 years
Mar 24 17:30:06 <tiberiusiv>	youll have to do it on word.
Mar 24 17:30:10 <smickles>	are you kidding? why should i risk my coins on your word?
Mar 24 17:30:16 <jurov>	tiberiusiv then get 100btc worth of sdice and short it
Mar 24 17:30:18 <tiberiusiv>	you arent risking anything
Mar 24 17:30:22 <smickles>	or the other way around
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Mar 24 17:30:31 <smickles>	there is always risk to things
Mar 24 17:30:38 <smickles>	probabilities
Mar 24 17:30:42 <tiberiusiv>	risk is you get 0.
Mar 24 17:30:43 <Bugpowder>	Why the f would you sequester coins for 2 years.
Mar 24 17:30:46 <tiberiusiv>	you never risk loss
Mar 24 17:30:51 <Bugpowder>	you can make SO MUCH from those coins
Mar 24 17:31:03 <Bugpowder>	for example, you could have bought calls last night
Mar 24 17:31:04 <tiberiusiv>	just make sure you have them when the time runs out
Mar 24 17:31:08 <Bugpowder>	like me :)
Mar 24 17:31:28 <smickles>	I'm not doing this without an escrow because i don't trust you
Mar 24 17:31:38 <smickles>	;;gettrust tiberiusiv
Mar 24 17:31:39 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user smickles to user tiberiusiv: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=smickles&dest=tiberiusiv
Mar 24 17:31:42 <tiberiusiv>	i dont get it, trust me to do what?
Mar 24 17:31:52 <smickles>	pay if you lose
Mar 24 17:32:00 <Namworld>	ye using my Options spreadsheet bugpowder?
Mar 24 17:32:04 <tiberiusiv>	right so you lose 0.
Mar 24 17:32:14 <tiberiusiv>	smickles your talking alot now
Mar 24 17:32:17 <Bugpowder>	Namworld: nope
Mar 24 17:32:17 <tiberiusiv>	are you accepting the bet or not?
Mar 24 17:32:24 <Bugpowder>	I just use my own brain
Mar 24 17:32:31 <smickles>	no because you won't accept any escrow in the world
Mar 24 17:32:37 <tiberiusiv>	ok.
Mar 24 17:32:40 <Namworld>	But my spreadsheet gives so much info...
Mar 24 17:32:44 <Bugpowder>	Too much info
Mar 24 17:32:55 <Bugpowder>	I generally just buy around the strike
Mar 24 17:32:58 <Bugpowder>	err
Mar 24 17:33:04 <nanotube>	tiberiusiv: here's the thing: if you plan to walk away if you lose, then the expected value of the bet to smickles is -50btc. (because he pays if he loses, but gets nothing if he wins)
Mar 24 17:33:19 <nanotube>	that's the point of the escrow, to make sure that one party is not planning to default in case of loss.
Mar 24 17:33:25 <tiberiusiv>	the chances of smickles not paying are higher then me
Mar 24 17:33:26 <smickles>	nanotube: thank you for being more articulate than me
Mar 24 17:33:27 <Bugpowder>	buy strikes around the currnet vwap
Mar 24 17:33:30 <tiberiusiv>	since 100btc is huge for him.
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Mar 24 17:33:34 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: i would escrow too
Mar 24 17:34:08 <Namworld>	nanotube is the most trusted escrow arounds. He runs OTC and has escrowed far larger sums.
Mar 24 17:34:17 <nanotube>	smickles: at any rate, 2 years is a long time... so even with escrow i'd probably not bet on this. :)
Mar 24 17:34:20 <tiberiusiv>	yea im not giving someone 100btc for 2 years
Mar 24 17:34:24 <Namworld>	Usually people just let nanotube handle escrow for bets and such.
Mar 24 17:34:40 <tiberiusiv>	he said no so the topic is closed
Mar 24 17:34:42 <nanotube>	smickles: make it 1btc. in 2 years 1btc will equal 100btc today :D
Mar 24 17:34:59 <Namworld>	Eh
Mar 24 17:35:07 <nanotube>	tiberiusiv: i just advised smickles not to take the risk. if you both decide you want to, then i'm not going to stand in your way ;)
Mar 24 17:35:29 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: would you use an escrow for a different amount?
Mar 24 17:35:49 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: how about all of your BTC? none escrow
Mar 24 17:35:59 <mjr_>	stupid bet
Mar 24 17:36:15 <mjr_>	stupid offer really
Mar 24 17:36:32 <mjr_>	you are not betting your bitcoins...you are betting your promise to pay bitcoins
Mar 24 17:36:37 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: I'm not doing the bet w/o a both party escrow. Are you willing to do any amount with an escrow?
Mar 24 17:36:44 <mjr_>	which i would not estimate is worth nearly 100 btc
Mar 24 17:37:02 <tiberiusiv>	my holdings are probably some of the hihgest in this chat.
Mar 24 17:37:10 <mjr_>	not questioning that
Mar 24 17:37:38 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: no 2 years is too long to have in someone i dont know escrow
Mar 24 17:37:40 <mjr_>	no one in any financial market would make an anonymous non collateralized bet 2 years out on a nebulous outcome
Mar 24 17:37:56 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: i never said it had to be someone you don't know
Mar 24 17:37:57 <mjr_>	you don't know nanotube?
Mar 24 17:38:02 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 24 17:38:11 <smickles>	the idea of an escrow is that we both trust the escrow
Mar 24 17:38:28 <mjr_>	my point is...promise to pay is not the same as coins in the bank...no one would say that it is
Mar 24 17:38:31 <nanotube>	well, if there are no mutually trusted third parties, i guess this is a non-starter.
Mar 24 17:38:40 <Bugpowder>	;;getrating nanotube
Mar 24 17:38:40 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube . User nanotube, rated since Mon Nov  8 10:14:09 2010. Cumulative rating 674, from 186 total ratings. Received ratings: 186 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 177 positive, 7 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=nanotube
Mar 24 17:38:58 <mjr_>	lol, is that the highest rating in all of otc?
Mar 24 17:38:59 <Bugpowder>	;;getrating tiberiusiv
Mar 24 17:38:59 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Mar 24 17:39:13 <Bugpowder>	;;getrating smickles
Mar 24 17:39:14 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@67.222.146.32 . User smickles, rated since Wed Jan  4 18:28:52 2012. Cumulative rating 90, from 51 total ratings. Received ratings: 50 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 51 positive, 6 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=smickles
Mar 24 17:39:23 <smickles>	mjr_: i don't think nano is the highest rated
Mar 24 17:39:36 <tiberiusiv>	how do i get authenticated?
Mar 24 17:39:40 <Bugpowder>	usagi neg'ed you?
Mar 24 17:39:52 <tiberiusiv>	nanotube: you buy/sell btc?
Mar 24 17:39:53 <smickles>	Bugpowder: yeah, for saying he defaulted on that contract
Mar 24 17:39:56 <mjr_>	you'd need to get registered with gribble
Mar 24 17:39:59 <smickles>	;;guide
Mar 24 17:40:00 <gribble>	Error: "guide" is not a valid command.
Mar 24 17:40:02 <mjr_>	then build up trust through transactions
Mar 24 17:40:03 <Bugpowder>	http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System
Mar 24 17:40:17 <Bugpowder>	nanotube founded the otc market, right?
Mar 24 17:40:28 <mjr_>	its called the web of trust and its the closest thing to a credit rating system that exists
Mar 24 17:40:58 <mjr_>	the idea of web of trust systems is not unique to bitcoin, nor started by it
Mar 24 17:41:40 <mjr_>	anyway, without a more clear definition (stock trades below .00001 or something that is easily verifiable) it isn't a good bet
Mar 24 17:41:51 <mjr_>	since we are talking about risks in investing in S.DICE
Mar 24 17:42:32 <mjr_>	it'd be easier and smarter to do options on the stock expiring two years out
Mar 24 17:42:59 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you might be interested in the logs of here starting at 21:26 utc
Mar 24 17:43:08 <mjr_>	either tiberiusiv selling a call or smickles selling a put...or some more complex combination
Mar 24 17:43:47 <tiberiusiv>	mircea would agree with everything i said about sdice
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Mar 24 17:45:03 <jurov>	DRINK! <tiberiusiv> mircea would agree with everything i said about sdice
Mar 24 17:45:28 <Namworld>	What can I do to borrow some of that capital, smickles?
Mar 24 17:45:53 <Namworld>	Can I put some stock in escrow?
Mar 24 17:45:59 *	_M is now known as cadsII
Mar 24 17:47:51 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe this is an area for bitbet to embrace,
Mar 24 17:47:58 <ThickAsThieves>	escrowing personal bets
Mar 24 17:49:03 <Namworld>	clever idea... let bitbet take not open to the public bets. Would require some coding tho
Mar 24 17:49:23 <ThickAsThieves>	but still have an option to leave them visible to public
Mar 24 17:49:29 <ThickAsThieves>	yknow, for drama
Mar 24 17:50:04 <jurov>	http://bitbet.us/bet/138/satoshidice-will-be-taken-down-seized-by-the-us/
Mar 24 17:50:30 <jurov>	teh market says "No".. at least not till june
Mar 24 17:51:10 <tiberiusiv>	31% are no bets
Mar 24 17:51:13 <tiberiusiv>	err yes bets
Mar 24 17:51:29 <tiberiusiv>	thats very shaky confidence especially for june
Mar 24 17:52:19 <jurov>	http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/ can be conveived as a proxy bet, too
Mar 24 17:53:15 <tiberiusiv>	well bitbet would have to climb twenty fold
Mar 24 17:53:48 <jurov>	but if s.dice gets really seized this year, it would happen
Mar 24 17:54:24 <tiberiusiv>	35% chance of bbet
Mar 24 17:54:33 <tiberiusiv>	thats still quite high
Mar 24 17:55:10 <mjr_>	seized?
Mar 24 17:55:14 <mjr_>	this looks like a good bank
Mar 24 17:55:18 <tiberiusiv>	no surpassing sdice
Mar 24 17:55:20 <ThickAsThieves>	these bets are like spare change though
Mar 24 17:55:30 <tiberiusiv>	true
Mar 24 17:55:35 <jurov>	and it's normal on bitbet that if anything gets over 90%/10% there are "just in case" bets arriving that push the odds back to middle
Mar 24 17:55:55 <jurov>	so it isn't necessarily "shaky" indication
Mar 24 17:56:08 <tiberiusiv>	we have 2 venues that are pricing major uncertainty on sdice
Mar 24 17:56:14 <mjr_>	do they have to take the servers physically?
Mar 24 17:56:21 <ThickAsThieves>	major?
Mar 24 17:56:38 <tiberiusiv>	30% yes bets in 90days? 30%+ dividend yield on the stock...
Mar 24 17:56:58 <ThickAsThieves>	again this is spare change
Mar 24 17:57:18 <ThickAsThieves>	its like polling
Mar 24 17:57:22 <ThickAsThieves>	useless in low qty
Mar 24 17:57:32 <tiberiusiv>	yes i know bbet is illiquid, mpex is illquid and inefficient blah blah blah
Mar 24 17:57:47 <jurov>	tiberiusiv put some serious money on that former bet, you will get the liquidity
Mar 24 17:57:54 <jurov>	i guarantee you
Mar 24 17:58:00 <tiberiusiv>	my time frame was 24months not 3
Mar 24 17:58:11 <ThickAsThieves>	actually i'd love it if you put 100btc against sdice on that bet
Mar 24 17:58:13 <tiberiusiv>	or 2 and 1 week lol
Mar 24 17:58:18 <jurov>	well, then make new one
Mar 24 17:58:19 <ThickAsThieves>	you might spook idiots
Mar 24 17:58:52 <tiberiusiv>	what % of sdice is held by management
Mar 24 17:59:01 <thestringpuller>	Jurov is a big meanie head
Mar 24 17:59:02 <ThickAsThieves>	not knowable
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Mar 24 17:59:14 <mjr_>	lol ~87%
Mar 24 17:59:27 <mjr_>	or should we say privately held
Mar 24 17:59:31 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Mar 24 17:59:33 <tiberiusiv>	only 13% is floating?
Mar 24 17:59:33 <mjr_>	as evoorhees is the only manager
Mar 24 17:59:38 <mjr_>	yep
Mar 24 17:59:45 <mjr_>	which is what smickles has been trying to tell you
Mar 24 17:59:57 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 24 17:59:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.90000, Best ask: 72.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 71.90000, 24 hour volume: 40862.73469029, 24 hour low: 62.26100, 24 hour high: 72.49999, 24 hour vwap: 68.23128
Mar 24 18:00:01 <mjr_>	going on about 13% of the company defining its true value
Mar 24 18:00:04 <mjr_>	is silly
Mar 24 18:00:07 <jurov>	evoorhees indicated maybe 10-30% being held by other investors
Mar 24 18:00:08 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hrprc
Mar 24 18:00:08 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 24 18:00:19 <mjr_>	think its at least 2 others
Mar 24 18:00:23 <mjr_>	3 total
Mar 24 18:00:37 <mjr_>	that make up 87% and he has said he doesn't have a majority i believe
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Mar 24 18:01:59 <mjr_>	i personally am expecting some news from sdice at some point in the next few months...they have been quiet for quite a while
Mar 24 18:02:06 <mjr_>	diff is i expect some good news
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Mar 24 18:02:21 <mjr_>	but that is pure speculation on my part
Mar 24 18:03:10 <mjr_>	Bugpowder: i should have been scooping up some calls during the lows
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Mar 24 18:03:48 <mjr_>	Bugpowder: i typically do the same thing. at the money calls, hold till end of month...haven't had an option expire worthless yet
Mar 24 18:04:09 <mjr_>	and in fact made about 300% this month, though i exercised early at 71
Mar 24 18:04:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3311 BTC [-]
Mar 24 18:04:40 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157789.msg1669605#msg1669605 scam?
Mar 24 18:05:20 <Lyspooner>	blockchain selling coinbase
Mar 24 18:05:30 <jurov>	from piuk? i think not
Mar 24 18:06:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought i had seen his name as trustworthy, but was unaware coinbase was for sale
Mar 24 18:06:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.0099 = 0.0594 BTC [+]
Mar 24 18:06:27 <mjr_>	coinbase?
Mar 24 18:06:34 <mjr_>	the company out of san fran?
Mar 24 18:06:42 <mjr_>	they had 600k seed round
Mar 24 18:06:50 <mjr_>	didn't think it was from blockchain
Mar 24 18:06:51 <ThickAsThieves>	is that one of the sites everyone hates now?
Mar 24 18:06:58 <mjr_>	well...
Mar 24 18:07:04 <mjr_>	they obviously can't keep up with the demand
Mar 24 18:07:12 <mjr_>	so there is bound to be friction
Mar 24 18:07:21 <jurov>	both coinbase and coinlab are reviled
Mar 24 18:07:34 <mjr_>	don't leave gox out
Mar 24 18:07:38 <mjr_>	though people still use them
Mar 24 18:07:43 <mjr_>	not voting with their feet yet
Mar 24 18:08:00 <Lyspooner>	it's tough to be in a queue to buy bitcoins and see the amount of bitcoins you can buy halved
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Mar 24 18:08:16 <mjr_>	amazing that anyone manages to get coins with how much the companies have fucked up in managing expectations
Mar 24 18:08:23 <mjr_>	yep i'll say
Mar 24 18:08:27 <Lyspooner>	piuk wouldn't be selling unless there were more problems than queuing
Mar 24 18:08:32 <mjr_>	so these june diff futures
Mar 24 18:09:12 <mjr_>	ooh
Mar 24 18:09:17 <mjr_>	this is a real pe deal
Mar 24 18:09:50 <mjr_>	anyone get details at all?
Mar 24 18:09:54 <jurov>	mjr_ were you around when i explained yest?
Mar 24 18:10:00 <mjr_>	rough pricing? denomination of payment?
Mar 24 18:10:31 <mjr_>	well...he is selling equity in a us company
Mar 24 18:10:44 <mjr_>	the shares you get will be denominated in dollars
Mar 24 18:11:10 <mjr_>	jurov: i had not seen, explained what?
Mar 24 18:11:21 <jurov>	the problem with idiffs
Mar 24 18:11:24 <jurov>	on mpex
Mar 24 18:11:35 <mjr_>	that they would need to triple the difficulty for me to break even?
Mar 24 18:11:41 <mjr_>	buying at that ask at least
Mar 24 18:12:18 <jurov>	not that. that they can combust spontaneously befre difficulty even gets to 25 million
Mar 24 18:12:30 <mjr_>	hows that?
Mar 24 18:12:55 <jurov>	collateral is 2.9 of something. or 2.9*2.9 of december something
Mar 24 18:13:09 <jurov>	no one is sure what the something is
Mar 24 18:13:20 <mjr_>	the difficulty at that point i thought
Mar 24 18:13:39 <mjr_>	its a function of the difficulty as of the last futures contract known
Mar 24 18:13:45 <jurov>	well, do the maffs yourself then
Mar 24 18:14:48 <jurov>	;;calc 4.8*2.9
Mar 24 18:14:59 <gribble>	13.92
Mar 24 18:15:16 <jurov>	for example for idiff created when diff was 4.8m
Mar 24 18:15:25 <mjr_>	no doesn't work like that
Mar 24 18:15:40 <Lyspooner>	another matonis forbes piece out: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/03/24/cyprus-goes-cashless-the-hard-way/
Mar 24 18:15:41 <mjr_>	no your right
Mar 24 18:15:42 <mjr_>	sorry
Mar 24 18:15:47 <mjr_>	going off of march
Mar 24 18:15:51 <mjr_>	not off of january
Mar 24 18:16:19 <mjr_>	yeah so 13.92 * 2.9
Mar 24 18:16:31 <mjr_>	;;calc 13.92 * 2.9
Mar 24 18:16:32 <gribble>	40.368
Mar 24 18:16:56 <mjr_>	so you need to have up 40 million satoshi or 4 btc i think for each contract
Mar 24 18:17:11 <mjr_>	for sept
Mar 24 18:17:42 <mjr_>	for june only 1.4 btc
Mar 24 18:18:01 <jurov>	eee 40m is 0.4
Mar 24 18:18:06 <mjr_>	but you'll be autoliquidated in case of collateral being exceeded
Mar 24 18:18:14 <mjr_>	oops, moved the decimal
Mar 24 18:18:36 <mjr_>	so i don't see the problem
Mar 24 18:18:41 <mjr_>	you could be forcibly liquidated
Mar 24 18:18:51 <mjr_>	but at a profit to you of 2.9x i think
Mar 24 18:19:07 <mjr_>	for the person forcibly liquidated at least
Mar 24 18:19:16 <mjr_>	with the seller losing his collateral
Mar 24 18:19:31 <jurov>	let's start from the begin. you buy idiff.jun at 0.2499
Mar 24 18:19:37 <mjr_>	ok
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Mar 24 18:19:52 <jurov>	and get autoliquidated at 15million = you get 0.15
Mar 24 18:20:03 <mjr_>	do both sides
Mar 24 18:20:07 <jurov>	that's quite a pe , lol
Mar 24 18:20:19 <mjr_>	ah ok...hold on
Mar 24 18:20:40 <mjr_>	collateral is....013?
Mar 24 18:21:05 <jurov>	maybe 0.13  or maybe more, depending on when the idiffs were created.
Mar 24 18:21:16 <jurov>	0.13 is worst case
Mar 24 18:21:17 <mjr_>	thought it went off the last close
Mar 24 18:21:23 <mjr_>	quarterly
Mar 24 18:21:40 <mjr_>	did not know it changed intraquarter
Mar 24 18:21:46 <mjr_>	ah ok i see
Mar 24 18:21:59 <mjr_>	so you are saying that the current ask is ridiculous...no one should buy it
Mar 24 18:22:01 <jurov>	yes i think it comes form last close, i would be thankful if you enumerated all the options
Mar 24 18:22:02 <mjr_>	fair enough
Mar 24 18:22:18 <jurov>	but i think it won't be worth it in any case
Mar 24 18:22:22 <mjr_>	yes true
Mar 24 18:22:30 <mjr_>	but then again no one is forcing you to buy at that price
Mar 24 18:22:38 <mjr_>	last sale was .08
Mar 24 18:22:43 <mjr_>	well within a profitable range
Mar 24 18:22:52 <mjr_>	roughly double in fact
Mar 24 18:22:54 <Bowjob>	yawn
Mar 24 18:22:57 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 24 18:22:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.90999, Best ask: 71.91965, Bid-ask spread: 0.00966, Last trade: 71.91000, 24 hour volume: 40908.12335116, 24 hour low: 62.70000, 24 hour high: 72.49999, 24 hour vwap: 68.36786
Mar 24 18:23:03 <Bowjob>	Mhm
Mar 24 18:23:28 <jurov>	ofc, nobody forces me since i made my own: https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-E
Mar 24 18:23:41 <jurov>	hate to do commercial plugs but
Mar 24 18:23:46 <mjr_>	lol :)
Mar 24 18:23:49 <mjr_>	i think its great
Mar 24 18:24:12 <jurov>	that one has known collateral and shorter maturity
Mar 24 18:24:14 <mjr_>	so caveat emptor market orders may not even have chance at profit
Mar 24 18:25:19 <jurov>	yes
Mar 24 18:25:50 <mjr_>	so at .08 they look like a bargain for june
Mar 24 18:26:22 <jurov>	lol i bought some at 0.035 back in january... someone made an erroneous order
Mar 24 18:26:32 <jurov>	but was too ashamed to admit since
Mar 24 18:26:34 <mjr_>	fat finger lol
Mar 24 18:26:49 <mjr_>	nice trade :)
Mar 24 18:26:52 <jurov>	when they do autocombust, i'll report
Mar 24 18:27:12 <mjr_>	well, luckily their possible losses are known
Mar 24 18:27:47 <mjr_>	looking forward to april options
Mar 24 18:27:50 <mjr_>	and june
Mar 24 18:28:03 <mjr_>	going to try and sell some puts to buy calls
Mar 24 18:32:35 <mjr_>	dude, watching barings go under is kinda excruciating but this movie is great
Mar 24 18:33:37 <mjr_>	like they were epic...british bank selling louisiana to the US for France WHILE france and britain were at war
Mar 24 18:33:46 <mjr_>	largest land deal in history up to that point
Mar 24 18:34:34 <Bugpowder>	mjr_: The depost on the puts is large
Mar 24 18:34:53 <Bugpowder>	also, nobody is selling for .08, just buying.
Mar 24 18:35:01 <mjr_>	Bugpowder: how is that possible
Mar 24 18:35:04 <Bugpowder>	if you want some at .249 I'm selling
Mar 24 18:35:06 <mjr_>	who do they buy from?
Mar 24 18:35:16 <Bugpowder>	someone sold to their bid
Mar 24 18:35:22 <jurov>	Bugpowder, what does your IMMCover say?
Mar 24 18:35:24 <mjr_>	ok...so someone sold around .08
Mar 24 18:35:35 <Bugpowder>	jurov, where is that?
Mar 24 18:35:44 <jurov>	in statjson output
Mar 24 18:35:49 <Bugpowder>	mine were created a long time ago
Mar 24 18:35:57 <Bugpowder>	So much more than 2.9x current diff
Mar 24 18:36:00 <mjr_>	i was saying that i would simply place limit orders at the price i wanted and get filled or no
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Mar 24 18:36:49 <mjr_>	wish i could calc how many puts per btc right now
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Mar 24 18:37:05 <jurov>	bugpowder i think the only way you can sell the idiffs is to show proof they are well covered :)
Mar 24 18:37:30 <Bugpowder>	yah, it sucks
Mar 24 18:38:14 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 19.84/70
Mar 24 18:38:14 <gribble>	0.283428571429
Mar 24 18:38:26 <Bugpowder>	thats the deposit per contract
Mar 24 18:38:33 <Bugpowder>	ok, I will lower my price a bit :)
Mar 24 18:40:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.83799 = 4.19 BTC [-]
Mar 24 18:41:00 <jurov>	i suppose i just confirmed that <thestringpuller> Jurov is a big meanie head
Mar 24 18:41:24 <mjr_>	is this at 70 strike?
Mar 24 18:41:47 <jurov>	what?
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Mar 24 18:43:46 <mjr_>	Bugpowder: that is the deposit on a 70 btc put?
Mar 24 18:43:58 <mjr_>	<Bugpowder> ;;calc 19.84/70
Mar 24 18:43:59 <mjr_>	<@gribble> 0.283428571429
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Mar 24 18:44:04 <jurov>	no, it's on idiff.jun
Mar 24 18:44:15 <jurov>	bugpowder is selling
Mar 24 18:44:41 <mjr_>	oh ok
Mar 24 18:45:16 <mjr_>	what is the collateral requirement for a 70 put
Mar 24 18:46:02 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 24 18:46:03 <gribble>	68.26
Mar 24 18:46:28 <jurov>	;;calc 70/68
Mar 24 18:46:28 <gribble>	1.02941176471
Mar 24 18:46:36 <jurov>	something more than that
Mar 24 18:46:37 <Bugpowder>	 its more than that
Mar 24 18:46:38 <Bugpowder>	yeha
Mar 24 18:46:47 <Bugpowder>	probably around 90
Mar 24 18:47:03 <Bugpowder>	if you want calls, buy calls
Mar 24 18:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.004004 = 8.008 BTC [-]
Mar 24 18:47:24 <mjr_>	90?
Mar 24 18:47:29 <Bugpowder>	around there
Mar 24 18:47:36 <Bugpowder>	The formula is not known
Mar 24 18:47:38 <mjr_>	90 btc per put?
Mar 24 18:47:46 <Bugpowder>	no about 1.2 per put
Mar 24 18:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 352 @ 0.004 = 1.408 BTC [-]
Mar 24 18:48:02 <Bugpowder>	create a single put and find out.
Mar 24 18:48:07 <Bugpowder>	report back
Mar 24 18:48:15 <Bugpowder>	calls are always 1BTC
Mar 24 18:48:20 <Bugpowder>	Puts are always more
Mar 24 18:48:23 <Bugpowder>	than 1 BTC
Mar 24 18:48:57 <mjr_>	thats not ture
Mar 24 18:48:59 <mjr_>	true
Mar 24 18:49:11 <mjr_>	it is possible to create multiple puts for 1 btc
Mar 24 18:49:15 <mjr_>	it depends on strike
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Mar 24 18:50:00 <mjr_>	the only thing we know is that puts are a function of strike so you could get multiple puts per btc or fewer than 1 puts per btc
Mar 24 18:50:55 <mjr_>	at least that is how it was explained to me...i mean who needs more than a 1 btc for a put struck at $1?
Mar 24 18:50:58 <jurov>	my calculation was as per the faq, but there's some padding.
Mar 24 18:51:16 <mjr_>	now that put would be more than likely worthless to everyone
Mar 24 18:51:23 <mjr_>	but if you figure that's one end of the spectrum
Mar 24 18:51:39 <mjr_>	a put at $120 or so would be the other side (not sure max strike atm)
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Mar 24 18:54:14 <jurov>	max strike is 75 atm, planned to be 200
Mar 24 18:54:22 <mjr_>	ah cool
Mar 24 18:57:27 <mjr_>	puts are tough
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Mar 24 18:59:11 <Bugpowder>	mjr_: The minimum is 1 BTC.  Any strike will go to infinite BTC value if BTC falls to $0.
Mar 24 18:59:58 <Bugpowder>	the 2% creation fee pays for 'insurance' on that possibility
Mar 24 19:00:19 <Bugpowder>	obviously if BTC goes to zero, you could just buy infinte BTC to pay the debt.
Mar 24 19:03:38 <jurov>	that's quite a philosophical exercise, since there will be only 21M BTC ever.
Mar 24 19:04:26 <jurov>	such debt would prolly be better repaid with pizza
Mar 24 19:04:34 <jurov>	:)
Mar 24 19:04:43 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 24 19:06:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.81 = 4.86 BTC [-]
Mar 24 19:07:08 <Namworld>	If Bitcoin was to permanently become worthless, I'd gladly accept a pizza instead =/
Mar 24 19:08:03 <mjr_>	Each PUT requires an amount of collateral equal to strike / spot BTC .
Mar 24 19:08:13 <mjr_>	using MKOPT
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Mar 24 19:08:22 <jurov>	yes, but there's some additional secret sauce
Mar 24 19:08:32 <mjr_>	is that not for split?
Mar 24 19:09:03 <mjr_>	split doesn't tell you what margin requirements are exactly
Mar 24 19:09:25 <jurov>	according to my understanding, split jusr divides provided amount into half
Mar 24 19:09:35 <mjr_>	only that you will get a certain number of puts based on the strike/current
Mar 24 19:09:37 <jurov>	and for puts it uses same formula as mkopt
Mar 24 19:09:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-]
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Mar 24 19:09:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Mar 24 19:09:42 <mjr_>	but the MKOPT seemed straightforward
Mar 24 19:09:52 <mjr_>	ah ok
Mar 24 19:10:55 <smickles>	;;rate [ident Namworld] 1
Mar 24 19:10:55 <smickles>	gribble?
Mar 24 19:10:55 <smickles>	;;rate Namworld 1
Mar 24 19:10:55 <smickles>	D:
Mar 24 19:10:57 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Namworld has been recorded.
Mar 24 19:10:58 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Namworld has changed from 1 to 1.
Mar 24 19:11:04 <smickles>	oh, lag
Mar 24 19:11:13 <jurov>	;;gribblelag
Mar 24 19:11:13 <gribble>	Error: "gribblelag" is not a valid command.
Mar 24 19:11:24 <smickles>	;;latency
Mar 24 19:11:25 <gribble>	0.10 seconds.
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Mar 24 19:11:33 <smickles>	;)
Mar 24 19:11:35 <jurov>	ah so :)
Mar 24 19:11:42 <jurov>	;;goxlag
Mar 24 19:11:43 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 24 19:11:52 <jurov>	urmom
Mar 24 19:12:13 <jurov>	;;ticker
Mar 24 19:12:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.20001, Best ask: 71.85100, Bid-ask spread: 0.65099, Last trade: 71.20001, 24 hour volume: 40755.29045224, 24 hour low: 62.70000, 24 hour high: 72.49999, 24 hour vwap: 68.61685
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Mar 24 19:12:21 <jurov>	is the api back up? or nanotube updated?
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Mar 24 19:13:47 <jurov>	https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/ticker is working
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Mar 24 19:15:01 <jurov>	and it's at 72.4999, everyone fasten the seat belt
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Mar 24 19:23:06 <taub>	can someone explain the wall theory nonsense to me?
Mar 24 19:23:14 <taub>	so many stupid conspiracy theories on the forum
Mar 24 19:23:25 <taub>	WALLMAKERS
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Mar 24 19:24:27 <mjr_>	lol
Mar 24 19:24:27 <mjr_>	who would report gribble lag?
Mar 24 19:24:27 <mjr_>	that was such a sad movie
Mar 24 19:24:28 <mjr_>	the jacket he wore sold for 21,000X what barings was sold to ING for
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Mar 24 19:24:28 <mjr_>	if that isn't fucked up, i don't know what is
Mar 24 19:24:36 <cadsII>	taub: my understanding is that the wall is a large amount of sell orders that were put on the upper margin by bears.
Mar 24 19:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	taub not much to explain
Mar 24 19:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	forum consists of posts. posts have to be made.
Mar 24 19:24:56 <mircea_popescu>	so they'll be made.
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Mar 24 19:25:06 <smickles>	woah, netsplit
Mar 24 19:25:29 <cadsII>	taub: link me?
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Mar 24 19:25:55 <taub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85687.msg1668250#msg1668250 posts like these
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Mar 24 19:26:48 <taub>	yea cadsII, but people think because bitcoin has great longterm potential that there wont be any dips or something heh
Mar 24 19:27:28 <taub>	eh stupid people will be stupid
Mar 24 19:27:46 <mjr_>	yep just a bunch of resting orders on a book at a certain price
Mar 24 19:28:01 <mjr_>	seems like people  forget about the old cancel button far too often
Mar 24 19:28:19 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85687.msg1668521#msg1668521
Mar 24 19:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	lmao that guy is funnaty
Mar 24 19:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	the forum. it delivers.
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Mar 24 19:29:02 <mircea_popescu>	783 pages ?!
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Mar 24 19:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;get info tradefortress
Mar 24 19:30:25 <gribble>	Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
Mar 24 19:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;getinfo tradefortress
Mar 24 19:30:30 <gribble>	Error: "getinfo" is not a valid command.
Mar 24 19:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	sigh
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Mar 24 19:31:32 <mjr_>	i wonder how many short positions there really are
Mar 24 19:31:32 <mjr_>	i know of one place where you can short
Mar 24 19:31:32 <mjr_>	and i don't think their volume is a huge percentage
Mar 24 19:31:58 <dub>	;;gpg info tradefortress
Mar 24 19:31:59 <gribble>	User 'TradeFortress', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1xw6QFuj3jvQ1spfT9H5kqitaByeJjSRB, registered on Sun Sep 23 04:48:53 2012. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=TradeFortress . Currently not authenticated.
Mar 24 19:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	ty!
Mar 24 19:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ you mean on bitcoin ?
Mar 24 19:33:06 <dub>	en pee
Mar 24 19:33:33 <mjr_>	its funny though
Mar 24 19:33:33 <mjr_>	because all those people who think that walls are conspiracies
Mar 24 19:33:33 <mjr_>	don't realize that the wallmakers have all the risk
Mar 24 19:33:33 <mjr_>	or should i say most
Mar 24 19:33:33 <mjr_>	price manipulators are usually fighting the market
Mar 24 19:33:33 <mjr_>	trying to maintain prices buy support buying or what have you
Mar 24 19:33:33 <mjr_>	or on the flip side trying to keep price low while waiting for funds to clear (stupidest theory)
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Mar 24 19:33:42 <mjr_>	the bigger the market the harder to control
Mar 24 19:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	the entire manipulation thing is kind of nonsense.
Mar 24 19:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	but since peiople's education consists mostly of films and novels
Mar 24 19:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	and conspiracy is the cheapest plot device
Mar 24 19:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	people's education consists mostly of conspiracy
Mar 24 19:34:30 <taub>	hah :D
Mar 24 19:34:32 <jurov>	still, i wouldn't rule out somethink like goxapi backdoor
Mar 24 19:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	jurov sure.
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Mar 24 19:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157519.0 << check this one out. the 0.015 btc scammor.
Mar 24 19:35:23 <arij>	0.015 :/
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Mar 24 19:35:53 <taub>	lol
Mar 24 19:35:56 <mjr_>	and with the dearth of margin (5 x 1 is good in btc trading...300 x 1 is easy in forex) you can't put up the imposing walls that make people sit back
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Mar 24 19:36:19 <arij>	where can you trade btc on a margin?
Mar 24 19:36:29 <mircea_popescu>	on mpex lol.
Mar 24 19:36:30 <taub>	theres this one site but it has high fees
Mar 24 19:36:31 <Namworld>	0.015 affords you a palace in shantytown
Mar 24 19:36:35 <taub>	mpex?
Mar 24 19:36:35 <Namworld>	Hey arij
Mar 24 19:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	except those don't get mixed into the main market info by design
Mar 24 19:36:39 <arij>	hey nam
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Mar 24 19:37:13 <taub>	oh that:)
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Mar 24 19:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, re shorts : there were at least 20k btc total in short positions at a few points this month
Mar 24 19:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	and last month prolly more
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Mar 24 19:41:25 <Josh_Rossi>	USD Current rate (APY):	328.63%
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Mar 24 19:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	bitfinex ?
Mar 24 19:41:47 <Josh_Rossi>	7	 510.0%	 1486.84	2
Mar 24 19:41:51 <Josh_Rossi>	yes
Mar 24 19:41:54 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 24 19:42:13 <Josh_Rossi>	the second one is a 7 day loan at 510%
Mar 24 19:42:18 <Josh_Rossi>	that is a standing offer
Mar 24 19:42:36 <Josh_Rossi>	~1500 USD requested at that rate
Mar 24 19:42:38 <mircea_popescu>	hahaah get a load of this :
Mar 24 19:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;gpg info MagicalTux
Mar 24 19:42:59 <gribble>	User 'MagicalTux', with keyid 1C797C313C89C25F, fingerprint 6EF3EC1D36EE80D651E8A7991C797C313C89C25F, and bitcoin address None, registered on Sun Mar  6 22:43:15 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=MagicalTux . Currently not authenticated.
Mar 24 19:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating MagicalTux
Mar 24 19:43:19 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User MagicalTux, rated since Mon Dec 20 10:21:21 2010. Cumulative rating 116, from 37 total ratings. Received ratings: 37 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 14 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=MagicalTux
Mar 24 19:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating mircea_popescu
Mar 24 19:43:21 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 116, from 60 total ratings. Received ratings: 55 positive, 5 negative. Sent ratings: 62 positive, 13 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu
Mar 24 19:44:25 <Josh_Rossi>	nice rating
Mar 24 19:44:33 <Josh_Rossi>	;;getrating Josh_Rossi
Mar 24 19:44:34 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Josh_Rossi, rated since Sat Mar  9 16:02:17 2013. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 0 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Josh_Rossi
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Mar 24 19:45:32 <MJRIII>	thats better...
Mar 24 19:45:56 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: deposits, please?
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Mar 24 19:46:48 <MJRIII>	bitfloor last is 73.50
Mar 24 19:47:08 <MJRIII>	once its up around $100 i can't wait to just trade for fun
Mar 24 19:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	jurov thy wish is my command.
Mar 24 19:47:18 <MJRIII>	rebate is really nice at that price
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Mar 24 19:50:15 <jurov>	thx
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Mar 24 19:52:58 <mircea_popescu>	smickles my npd goes as such : yest told waitress she has a beautiful smile and it's a pleasure to talk to her which made her smile compulsively like an idiot every time she saw me and then gave her a nice tip. today cooked pasta and had jasmine tea (4 cups). so you tell me.
Mar 24 19:53:05 <mircea_popescu>	and also jasmine tea is the best tea there is.
Mar 24 19:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	also this chatlog is a riot lol. clockbluffers.
Mar 24 19:54:02 <MJRIII>	did you watch the tiberiusiv section?
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Mar 24 19:54:52 <mircea_popescu>	im reading through iot
Mar 24 19:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	where it=log
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Mar 24 19:55:41 <MJR_III>	it tends to repeat itself as tiberiusiv keeps circling back to his old flawed points
Mar 24 19:56:12 <MJR_III>	smickles really cut the argument down to its core though, so good job to him
Mar 24 19:56:56 <Bugpowder>	tiberisuiv is a little puppy, very excited about all these new ideas bitcoin has put in his head.
Mar 24 19:57:00 <jurov>	wait till mircea comes to what tibby thinks about his sdice opinion
Mar 24 19:57:16 <MJR_III>	i know yeah
Mar 24 19:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	for the record tho : the dividend-based corp valuation model is flawed.
Mar 24 19:57:46 <mircea_popescu>	i understand the value of dividends in decreasing risk
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Mar 24 19:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	however, plenty of irl companies pay no dividends. hathaway paid no dividends.
Mar 24 19:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	or whatever, paid 1 cent once in 197x
Mar 24 19:58:12 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: that was kakobrekla's point of view
Mar 24 19:58:17 <dub>	I like monkey paw green tea
Mar 24 19:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	and YES, buffett COULD wire himself all their capital in uganda and run off.
Mar 24 19:58:27 <MJR_III>	AAPL being the best example
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Mar 24 19:58:50 <MJR_III>	did not pay any dividends in steve jobs era IIRC
Mar 24 19:58:56 <Bugpowder>	dividends make sense if you have a strong income flow but not a good plan for applying that capital to company growth
Mar 24 19:59:02 <smickles>	i was a bit of a troll at some points MJR_III ;)
Mar 24 19:59:26 <MJR_III>	smickles: it was in that sense anti-troll
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Mar 24 19:59:41 <MJR_III>	because saying evoorhees runs sdice and bitinstant is patently false
Mar 24 19:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder exactly. which is why i see why the cavirtex ppl wouldn't really want to pay dividends.
Mar 24 19:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think that necessarily speaks against them
Mar 24 20:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III iirc evoorhees was pr for bitinstant ?
Mar 24 20:00:06 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure shrem runs it
Mar 24 20:00:11 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: i agree...but i don't like having to sell a position to take profits
Mar 24 20:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III that's also a point, yeah.
Mar 24 20:00:27 <MJR_III>	if i believe in the company i'd rather just buy and hold...but sometimes you need to take some profits to rebalance
Mar 24 20:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	well... here's the other side of that coin :
Mar 24 20:00:43 <Bugpowder>	fuck balance, buy calls
Mar 24 20:00:49 <Bugpowder>	:-P
Mar 24 20:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that stocks work as bonds (ie, they issue dividends)
Mar 24 20:00:54 <mircea_popescu>	makes the markets very illiquid
Mar 24 20:01:00 <MJR_III>	good point
Mar 24 20:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	or moreover, fractured : the big time holders who don't participate in price formation
Mar 24 20:01:07 <MJR_III>	i am in that boat now with sdice
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Mar 24 20:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	and the 1-10 btc holders who move the price 30 to 70 to 30 to 70
Mar 24 20:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	creating a general; impression of disorder
Mar 24 20:01:32 <MJR_III>	that is my biggest problem
Mar 24 20:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 24 20:01:38 <MJR_III>	it fucks up my performance sheets
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Mar 24 20:01:44 <MJR_III>	and for no real reason
Mar 24 20:01:50 <MJR_III>	since volume is very low and spreads are wide
Mar 24 20:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	so in a very macro sense you are better off as a portofolio investor with the "have to sell ot realise" paradigm, as inconvenient as it is
Mar 24 20:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	because the alternative sucks more.
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Mar 24 20:02:12 <MJR_III>	but again...valuation is the key, that is basically what caused 2008 crises
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Mar 24 20:02:38 <MJR_III>	people not knowing what shit was worth
Mar 24 20:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	course corps like s.dice have no choice in the matter, as there's no practical way to deploy.
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Mar 24 20:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	but corps that have the choice...
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Mar 24 20:03:00 <MJR_III>	i was watching rogue trader today...they sold nick leesons trading floor jacket for 21,000 lb
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Mar 24 20:03:06 <MJR_III>	sold barings for 1 lb
Mar 24 20:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	they should have sold his jacket for shares
Mar 24 20:03:26 <MJR_III>	hehehe
Mar 24 20:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	not for fiat
Mar 24 20:03:43 <MJR_III>	actually they should have claimed that it was a liquidable asset
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Mar 24 20:04:03 <MJR_III>	and ING should have gotten it
Mar 24 20:04:13 <MJR_III>	i'm about to watch margin call...but that very word makes me feel ill
Mar 24 20:04:26 <MJR_III>	which is why i like bitcoin trading...i don't have margin calls to worry about
Mar 24 20:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol @ "unless there is legislation STOPPING you it is implicityly legal" "WRONG" part
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Mar 24 20:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv who told you this ?
Mar 24 20:05:04 <MJR_III>	you will lol quite a bit
Mar 24 20:05:09 <MJR_III>	it gets worse from there
Mar 24 20:05:38 <MJR_III>	this is completely ignoring the matter of jurisdiction of said legislation
Mar 24 20:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, i don't get his numbers.
Mar 24 20:05:43 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 24 20:05:43 <gribble>	There are currently 40223789 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 7129667.659 USD in total. | Data vintage: 97.4144 seconds
Mar 24 20:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice paid ~70k btc in a year and the average mkt cap past month is 500k
Mar 24 20:05:58 <mircea_popescu>	what 30% ?
Mar 24 20:05:58 <Bugpowder>	nice... Up from $6.2MM
Mar 24 20:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder kinda meaningless figure tho innit.
Mar 24 20:06:25 <Bugpowder>	not totally
Mar 24 20:06:40 <Bugpowder>	the is the lower bound of cash on hand at mtgox
Mar 24 20:06:40 <MJR_III>	in some ways it makes more sense to think of SDICE as a private equity stake
Mar 24 20:06:49 <MJR_III>	it is just getting started i feel
Mar 24 20:06:55 <mircea_popescu>	100 dollars deposited allows you an order of 10bn btc at 0.00000001 eacgh
Mar 24 20:06:58 <Bugpowder>	more useful would be total current deposts.
Mar 24 20:07:10 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 24 20:07:17 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: I am not interested in the BTC number, just the USD total
Mar 24 20:07:18 <mircea_popescu>	but they can't publish that as it'd tell a real sad story.
Mar 24 20:08:06 <Bugpowder>	asks IS worthless
Mar 24 20:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	oh i see, i misread. yeah.
Mar 24 20:08:06 <MJR_III>	did you see the number of tickets available?
Mar 24 20:08:08 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, that is something.
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Mar 24 20:08:12 <Bugpowder>	yes
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Mar 24 20:08:26 <MJR_III>	not available actually but in queue
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Mar 24 20:08:29 <MJR_III>	fucked up how much noise to signal there is from the biggest exchange
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Mar 24 20:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	"mjr: if satoshidice future was more certain, the price would reflect it, it doesnt." << well, this is fundamentally a broken argument.
Mar 24 20:08:56 <mircea_popescu>	a restatement of the efficient market theory, which is broken even in fiat.
Mar 24 20:09:07 <MJR_III>	yep
Mar 24 20:09:12 <MJR_III>	he is a HUGE proponent of efficient market
Mar 24 20:09:20 <smickles>	Bugpowder: it's not cash on hand at gox
Mar 24 20:09:22 <MJR_III>	as you'll see...i told him if market was efficient it'd be broken
Mar 24 20:09:26 <MJR_III>	no trading ever
Mar 24 20:09:43 <smickles>	gox lets you place bids b/f you have cash in the account
Mar 24 20:09:43 <smickles>	they show in the book and only disappear when they get touched by an ask
Mar 24 20:09:46 <MJR_III>	perfect illiquidity
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Mar 24 20:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	smickles what ?!
Mar 24 20:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	they have the phantom liquidity model too now ?!
Mar 24 20:10:59 <Bugpowder>	no
Mar 24 20:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is it about bad ideas that makes them so irresistible to people.
Mar 24 20:11:01 <dub>	isn't dice price a reflection of random market killing acts by its issuer?
Mar 24 20:11:02 <Bugpowder>	they don't
Mar 24 20:11:08 <Bugpowder>	smickles is wrong
Mar 24 20:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	dub possibly.
Mar 24 20:11:11 <MJR_III>	Bugpowder proved that last night
Mar 24 20:11:25 <MJR_III>	dub: lol
Mar 24 20:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder don't they ?
Mar 24 20:11:32 <Bugpowder>	I tested it.
Mar 24 20:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	a ok. was about to blow up over here
Mar 24 20:11:49 <MJR_III>	the other orders only pop up when that one is canceled
Mar 24 20:12:16 <Bugpowder>	If you underfund your bids, your cheapest bids don't post to the market
Mar 24 20:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	so basically you can put it in, but it won't list it in the book ?
Mar 24 20:12:23 <MJR_III>	i think bugpowder said that they only show the closest to top of book?
Mar 24 20:12:26 <Bugpowder>	right
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Mar 24 20:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	pretty clever way to do it.
Mar 24 20:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	kills both cats.
Mar 24 20:12:47 <MJR_III>	what about both sides of book Bugpowder?
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Mar 24 20:13:00 <MJR_III>	for a market maker?
Mar 24 20:13:10 <Bugpowder>	Don't have coin at mtgox right now, but pretty sure you need to fund asks too for them to show
Mar 24 20:13:43 <Bugpowder>	I can test in a few days when I dump another batch at $97. :)
Mar 24 20:14:02 <MJR_III>	well that theory was busted for me...i guess their book is pretty accurate, as far as they actually have funds behind orders
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Mar 24 20:14:41 <Bugpowder>	right, but what we REALLY want to know is the shadow pool of funds not on the book.
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Mar 24 20:15:01 <smickles>	'tis true m'lrd
Mar 24 20:15:01 <smickles>	it's why people say X wall is fake
Mar 24 20:15:02 <smickles>	;;latency
Mar 24 20:15:03 <gribble>	0.25 seconds.
Mar 24 20:15:18 <MJR_III>	been a trading movie kind of day
Mar 24 20:15:20 <Bugpowder>	people say X wall is fake because they are fucking idiots.
Mar 24 20:15:27 <MJR_III>	glengarry glen ross and rogue trader...now margin call
Mar 24 20:15:36 <MJR_III>	well...
Mar 24 20:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	glengarry glen ross kicked ass.
Mar 24 20:15:40 <MJR_III>	hehehe
Mar 24 20:15:42 <MJR_III>	yeah
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Mar 24 20:15:46 <MJR_III>	coffee is for closers
Mar 24 20:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;google trilema glengarry glen ross
Mar 24 20:15:49 <gribble>	Sa invatam Texas Hold'em impreuna, teoria cartilor pe Trilema - Un ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-invatam-texas-holdem-impreuna-teoria-cartilor/>; Lewis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis>
Mar 24 20:15:57 <mircea_popescu>	dude google is so borkt.
Mar 24 20:16:17 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 24 20:16:19 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kZg_ALxEz0
Mar 24 20:16:24 <dub>	I was trying to think of a way that gox can be gamed through its shithouse engine
Mar 24 20:16:39 <MJR_III>	spammy orders
Mar 24 20:16:40 <dub>	you could basically stop trading with a handfull of accounts
Mar 24 20:16:40 <Bugpowder>	third prize is... your fired!
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Mar 24 20:16:42 <MJR_III>	doubt they have toxic flow preventers
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Mar 24 20:17:04 <MJR_III>	you could use the api to send many orders at tiny amounts
Mar 24 20:17:07 <MJR_III>	their minimum
Mar 24 20:17:14 <MJR_III>	filling their queues
Mar 24 20:17:24 <dub>	if you could work out how to reliably control timing..
Mar 24 20:17:28 <Bugpowder>	to some extent bots already do that
Mar 24 20:17:38 <MJR_III>	it is almost certain that they are doing reads on an HDD
Mar 24 20:17:43 <MJR_III>	well bots do it intentionally to try to place orders
Mar 24 20:17:44 <Bugpowder>	I would imagine they are using SSDs.
Mar 24 20:17:46 <MJR_III>	you could do it far outside the money
Mar 24 20:17:54 <MJR_III>	you wo9uld imagine wrong i think
Mar 24 20:17:59 <Bugpowder>	and that the whole book is kept in RAM
Mar 24 20:18:00 <MJR_III>	2 minutes lag with an ssd?
Mar 24 20:18:08 <MJR_III>	lol, i wish
Mar 24 20:18:14 <MJR_III>	no way its that slow if that were the case
Mar 24 20:18:32 <MJR_III>	DB programming is one of the biggest areas where this space needs help
Mar 24 20:18:32 <Bugpowder>	They are not hitting the disk.
Mar 24 20:18:38 <MJR_III>	you are sure?
Mar 24 20:18:43 <Bugpowder>	nope
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Mar 24 20:18:52 <Bugpowder>	But the book isn't very big
Mar 24 20:18:52 <MJR_III>	how could they be so slow in RAM
Mar 24 20:19:03 <MJR_III>	even more reason they can't have it in ram
Mar 24 20:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III because they run a webserver on the same machine
Mar 24 20:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	and when apache gets flooded it slows down
Mar 24 20:19:38 <MJR_III>	they list "improving the matching engine is one of our biggest projects right now"
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Mar 24 20:19:57 <MJR_III>	apache is not the matching engine...though that very may well exacerbate the problem
Mar 24 20:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	they're prolly going to move it on a separate machine seeing how i the "how mpex does it" article made the rounds
Mar 24 20:20:19 <mircea_popescu>	which thanks god already.
Mar 24 20:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III apache slows down the entire machine.
Mar 24 20:20:49 <MJR_III>	ah could be true i suppose
Mar 24 20:20:56 <MJR_III>	not a big fan of apache...its ok
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Mar 24 20:21:04 <MJR_III>	nor am i a fan of php
Mar 24 20:21:22 <MJR_III>	they should have gone nodejs, nginx, and mongodb
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Mar 24 20:21:29 <smickles>	< Bugpowder> smickles is wrong << i guess they finally gave that up, huh? (also, i'm laggin out like mad cats)
Mar 24 20:21:31 <MJR_III>	but mostly for the cool factor
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Mar 24 20:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	well... most webservers come prioritised out of the box
Mar 24 20:24:27 <dub>	smicklescorp under ddos?
Mar 24 20:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	"Most open tickets have a resolution within 20 minutes. Remaining cases are when there is not enough information, or when issues are not simple user-specific issues (or linked to an outage)."
Mar 24 20:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	sez tux.
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Mar 24 20:30:43 <smickles>	dub: yeah, by the damn baidu bot
Mar 24 20:30:43 <smickles>	it hits me about 12 times a day
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Mar 24 20:30:45 <MJR_III>	btw... mircea_popescu did you see the Private Equity deal for CoinBase?
Mar 24 20:30:45 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: They raised my withdrawl limit two hours after I emailed them
Mar 24 20:30:54 <jurov>	interesting, bitcoin-central does accept unfunded asks too, but shows them in book with zero amount
Mar 24 20:30:58 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III i have nod.
Mar 24 20:30:58 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder that's cool.
Mar 24 20:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	as far as i know you're the only person with a positive experience with them.
Mar 24 20:31:04 <Bugpowder>	yah, I was afraid it would be a PITA and I'd be behind 5500 accounts waiting verification
Mar 24 20:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	not discounting it, but it IS exceptional.
Mar 24 20:31:07 <Bugpowder>	I was already verified so it must have been easy
Mar 24 20:31:12 <Bugpowder>	so many reddit posts about how hard it is to buy bitcoins
Mar 24 20:31:25 <MJR_III>	lol, i am loving bitfinex
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Mar 24 20:31:45 <MJR_III>	put $170 in on the 19th...$175 today...
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Mar 24 20:32:04 <MJR_III>	crazy to see compound interest at work...usually its fractions of pennies
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Mar 24 20:33:18 <Bugpowder>	its really a system of haves and have nots.  People with verified gox accounts that aren't scared by filling out a wire form or put off by paying a $30 fee, or have a bitcoins direct account...  Those are the haves.   Then there are the people that use coinbase or are sitting in the verification queue.
Mar 24 20:33:53 <nanotube>	jurov: i updated to use the new data.mtgox
Mar 24 20:34:04 <Bugpowder>	Bitcoin is just such  a stunning example of how profitable it can be to be an early adopter of something, on some many levels.
Mar 24 20:34:09 <Bugpowder>	so many
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Mar 24 20:40:36 <jurov>	can i resell my verified acct somehow?
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Mar 24 20:40:36 <jurov>	or would it be suspicious that guy from yurp suddenly gets bunch of ach,dwolla and such stuff?
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Mar 24 20:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder then there's the people with 50k waiting for 3 months for the "developers" to look into it
Mar 24 20:40:37 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/03/scary-batman-double-top.jpg
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Mar 24 20:40:37 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: Did they wire in over $10k at a time?
Mar 24 20:40:38 <jurov>	let's finish the drawin together
Mar 24 20:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder long time user guy, im sure he didn't step into anything obvious.
Mar 24 20:40:38 <Bugpowder>	sux.  that's like 0.65 Teslas.
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Mar 24 20:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	"MagicalTux already explained that he is writing a entirely new site that is decent and not a stupid magic the gathering trading script. "
Mar 24 20:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20572.msg263943#msg263943
Mar 24 20:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	june 2011.
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Mar 24 20:43:38 <Bugpowder>	So...  On wednesday, thursday and friday of last week, 10,000-20,000 BTC buys went off between 15:00-15:30 GMT each day.  So, we may be thru $75 within the next 15 hours.
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Mar 24 20:47:11 <dub>	;;market buy 20000
Mar 24 20:47:14 <gribble>	A market order to buy 20000 bitcoins right now would take 1477023.0224 USD and would take the last price up to 75.1364 USD, resulting in an average price of 73.8512 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
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Mar 24 20:48:37 <Bugpowder>	correction TuesWedsThurs
Mar 24 20:48:48 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: did you see the car i want to get once bitcoins make it possible lol
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Mar 24 20:49:22 <MJR_III>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z39jXZfCpf0
Mar 24 20:49:27 <MJR_III>	such a beast
Mar 24 20:49:36 <MJR_III>	its nice to dream
Mar 24 20:49:45 <MJR_III>	but anyways...this PE deal could be good i think
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Mar 24 20:50:09 <MJR_III>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157789.msg1669605#msg1669605
Mar 24 20:50:19 <MJR_III>	could probably use some activist investors lol
Mar 24 20:50:27 <MJR_III>	fix whatever stupid model they are using
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Mar 24 20:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	what's with everyonebuying cars already
Mar 24 20:51:05 <dub>	I was gonna dismiss that based on its european decent but its actually pretty badass
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Mar 24 20:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	"Hey All  I Am a long time miner  with a low budget. My 1 Gh/s isnt cutting it anymore, or has it for a long time.  I need our Help to Secure a Batch #3 Avalon.   I Have A Listing Up On BTCJam"
Mar 24 20:52:51 <mircea_popescu>	gotta love these.
Mar 24 20:53:03 <MJR_III>	i haven't gotten one yet
Mar 24 20:53:12 <MJR_III>	but maybe at $1000 per btc
Mar 24 20:53:40 <MJR_III>	basically military model
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Mar 24 20:53:58 <MJR_III>	250 btc then i think...
Mar 24 20:55:16 <MJR_III>	but that was not the cool link...what would you price that block of coinbase shares at?
Mar 24 20:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see that coinbase is worth money.
Mar 24 20:56:37 <mircea_popescu>	i would sell.
Mar 24 20:56:44 <MJR_III>	well...
Mar 24 20:56:53 <MJR_III>	while i agree coinbase is fucking up their opportunity
Mar 24 20:56:59 <MJR_III>	that just changes the price
Mar 24 20:57:03 <MJR_III>	they have users
Mar 24 20:57:06 <MJR_III>	and could turn around
Mar 24 20:57:14 <MJR_III>	in fact, i think that is not a good sign for them
Mar 24 20:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Mar 24 20:57:23 <MJR_III>	looking for liquidity options ON A FORUM
Mar 24 20:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	but you asked me.
Mar 24 20:57:27 <MJR_III>	not second market
Mar 24 20:57:44 <MJR_III>	not an otc thing, or not another internal investor
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Mar 24 20:58:23 <tiberiusiv>	if voorhees has 90% of sdice shares, what stops him from playing on his own site everytime  he wants to dump more shares, in order to increase "profits" thereby introducing more motivated bidders to buy them
Mar 24 20:58:28 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: A car is a functional object of desire that feels like it just might actually be in reach, even if you have only a few hundred coins.
Mar 24 20:58:37 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: ffs
Mar 24 20:58:53 <Bugpowder>	read the trilemna
Mar 24 20:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv this is a recurring topic, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/
Mar 24 20:59:13 <mircea_popescu>	there's even a bounty out.
Mar 24 20:59:22 <Bugpowder>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/
Mar 24 20:59:23 <tiberiusiv>	thnx
Mar 24 20:59:30 <Bugpowder>	ya
Mar 24 20:59:36 <Bugpowder>	it is an interesting idea though
Mar 24 20:59:43 <Bugpowder>	(87%) now
Mar 24 21:00:14 <Bugpowder>	minus the mystery investors shares
Mar 24 21:01:13 <tiberiusiv>	if sdice had that level of profits why is mpex worth more then sdice?
Mar 24 21:02:21 <mircea_popescu>	omg i beat Bugpowder tyo the links once
Mar 24 21:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv also an amply discussed topic.
Mar 24 21:02:40 <Bugpowder>	we need a FAQ for bitcoin-asstes
Mar 24 21:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 24 21:03:01 <tiberiusiv>	the article doesnt answer the question
Mar 24 21:03:05 <tiberiusiv>	simply you cant prove it
Mar 24 21:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	something like "read http://polimedia.us/trilema/category/mpex/ and then http://polimedia.us/trilema/category/bitcoin/". when you're done you can't look like a fool anymore.
Mar 24 21:03:30 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv any field of human activity will have open questions.
Mar 24 21:03:55 <tiberiusiv>	ever watch boiler room.
Mar 24 21:04:01 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 24 21:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	i haven't. is it worth it ?
Mar 24 21:04:29 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin enables you to run boiler room scams all day long
Mar 24 21:04:49 <Bugpowder>	Also known as the bitcointalk forum
Mar 24 21:04:56 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: its more entertainment then anything
Mar 24 21:05:13 <Bugpowder>	yeah its a pretty decent movie
Mar 24 21:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	mkay, was looking for something.
Mar 24 21:06:11 <Bugpowder>	I cannot freaking wait to see the MPOE results for this month
Mar 24 21:06:29 <Bugpowder>	I suspect a disaster is brewing for the bondholders
Mar 24 21:06:48 <tiberiusiv>	well why cant mpex do the same thing?
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Mar 24 21:07:13 <tiberiusiv>	create bids to sell the 1bil shares too
Mar 24 21:07:34 <Bugpowder>	I assume this is what mircea_popescu is doing.  Why else would S.MPOE be worth so much?
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Mar 24 21:07:41 <tiberiusiv>	lol
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Mar 24 21:07:49 <tiberiusiv>	mircea IS the market
Mar 24 21:07:54 <MJR_III>	well...think about this
Mar 24 21:07:56 <Bugpowder>	Not really though
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Mar 24 21:08:12 <Bugpowder>	People have deposited a LOT of coins into the recieving address
Mar 24 21:08:14 <MJR_III>	investing in a company that loses value in bitcoin (as long as its not too fast) just slows your rate of gain for now
Mar 24 21:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	dude, i have no idea. there's an old article discussing this, i'm no better.
Mar 24 21:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	one idea may be that s.mpoe shareholders can never make a loss.
Mar 24 21:08:29 <Bugpowder>	the coins need to go into some security
Mar 24 21:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice can.
Mar 24 21:08:51 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: you can send coins to yourself.
Mar 24 21:08:57 <MJR_III>	i have always wondered why you put bondholders before shareholders
Mar 24 21:09:05 <MJR_III>	which is fine, but just opposite
Mar 24 21:09:08 <tiberiusiv>	um every business does that
Mar 24 21:09:14 <MJR_III>	huh?
Mar 24 21:09:22 <tiberiusiv>	bondholders come before shareholders.
Mar 24 21:09:25 <tiberiusiv>	even in bankruptcy
Mar 24 21:09:34 <MJR_III>	to get PAID
Mar 24 21:09:38 <MJR_III>	not to take losses
Mar 24 21:09:54 <tiberiusiv>	what losses are the bondholders taking? he didnt default
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Mar 24 21:10:02 <MJR_III>	read the faq please
Mar 24 21:10:08 <MJR_III>	i'll paste it, but srsly
Mar 24 21:10:44 <Bugpowder>	there are many financial instruments that are concievable
Mar 24 21:10:50 <tiberiusiv>	he probably placed bondholders before shareholders since hes the largest shareholder
Mar 24 21:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 24 21:10:56 <Bugpowder>	one should read the contract, not the name.
Mar 24 21:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv srsly, read stuff. it's fun to read.
Mar 24 21:11:23 <tiberiusiv>	i did read your post, there was no answer about mr voorhees
Mar 24 21:11:29 <tiberiusiv>	fact is nobody knows.
Mar 24 21:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	you are nao discussing a different topic tho
Mar 24 21:11:34 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: correct
Mar 24 21:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	which is also documented at length
Mar 24 21:11:58 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees has massive incentive to manipulate sdice and get rich dumping stock
Mar 24 21:12:13 <Bugpowder>	nobody knows, and everyone knows nobody knows except those that do not yet know that everyone knows that nobody knows.
Mar 24 21:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 24 21:12:19 <tiberiusiv>	you can easily put together $5-10mil
Mar 24 21:12:20 <Bugpowder>	but now you know
Mar 24 21:12:29 <Bugpowder>	and knowing is half the battle
Mar 24 21:12:30 <tiberiusiv>	lol bugpowder
Mar 24 21:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	how much is a 2 carat, sdlightly yellow, princess cut no impurities diamond worth ?
Mar 24 21:13:09 <Bugpowder>	what do you mean by slightly yellow?
Mar 24 21:13:14 <MJR_III>	(k)In the case where MPOE, after having paid the interest as detailed above as well as all costs and fees resulting from contracts purchases and executions will be found to have a shortfall, that shortfall will be applied to the capital of the bonds deposited that were accepted proportionally, so that each bond is reduced by the same ratio as the ratio between the shortfall and the
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Mar 24 21:13:16 <MJR_III>	calculated capital reserves requirement. Bonds that were not accepted as well as the unaccepted parts of partially accepted bonds are extempt from this reduction.
Mar 24 21:13:18 <Bugpowder>	$12k
Mar 24 21:13:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder HA!
Mar 24 21:13:32 <Bugpowder>	assuming its a J color, and lets say SI2
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Mar 24 21:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	diamonds are not scarce and debeers is just manipulating the price.
Mar 24 21:13:49 <Bugpowder>	yes I know that you know that
Mar 24 21:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	it's worth $45
Mar 24 21:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	lalala
Mar 24 21:14:17 <Bugpowder>	are you using a cost based pricing model instead of a price based costing model?
Mar 24 21:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
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Mar 24 21:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	just showing that speculative thought is not always economically relevant.
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Mar 24 21:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	as enjoyable the indulging of it may be.
Mar 24 21:14:57 <Bugpowder>	if the diamond cost $45 to dig out, you need to spend $2000 in ads to make it worth $12000
Mar 24 21:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	o, we're not considering the cost to dig it out
Mar 24 21:15:15 <Bugpowder>	cartel is pretty much broken now right?
Mar 24 21:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	we're armchair economists, so we get to pick our cost model.
Mar 24 21:15:20 <MJR_III>	i guess the overall point to take away is invest what you want and get the returns you can...try to learn the risks, but you will NEVER have a risk free investment and you will never have perfect information
Mar 24 21:15:26 <Bugpowder>	why haven't prices dropped?
Mar 24 21:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	we'll use a copper mining model for diamons.
Mar 24 21:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder actually... the russians found something like three tons under a lake.
Mar 24 21:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	and i mean that, like 54734897598347985739847 carats
Mar 24 21:16:24 <Bugpowder>	MJR_III: yeah,  to the point of tiberiusiv,  this is just one more datapoint for the risk matrix.  Get more datapoints and connect the dots better then everyone else and you will make money in this bitcoin shit.
Mar 24 21:16:35 <mircea_popescu>	just like irl,
Mar 24 21:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	but with bits
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Mar 24 21:17:08 <MJR_III>	yep
Mar 24 21:17:13 <MJR_III>	efficient market is bullshit
Mar 24 21:17:16 <MJR_III>	you get what you can
Mar 24 21:17:28 <MJR_III>	try to know a little more than the next guy
Mar 24 21:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the "it's all just one great conspiracy" argument is never disprovable.
Mar 24 21:17:45 <MJR_III>	hehehe...what if aliens
Mar 24 21:17:45 <tiberiusiv>	at the end of the day, major players hold substantial bitcoins and need bids to dump them. bitcoin has worse wealth distribution then even fiat currency by a massive margin
Mar 24 21:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	it carries a little more apparent water in btc than irl because there's fewer people in btc
Mar 24 21:17:54 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: and with competition that is significantly underpowered relative to irl finance.
Mar 24 21:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	but then again, we KNEW there's fewer people in btc at the onset.
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Mar 24 21:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv how do you know this ?
Mar 24 21:18:33 <tiberiusiv>	just add up even the top 500 adresss which probably belong to 50 people.
Mar 24 21:18:36 <Bugpowder>	yeah, I actually doubt tiberiusiv statement is true
Mar 24 21:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 24 21:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	so what, add up some fact with some assumption ?
Mar 24 21:18:54 <mircea_popescu>	why haven't i thought about that! you mean this can prove ANYTHING ?
Mar 24 21:18:55 <mircea_popescu>	wow.
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Mar 24 21:19:10 <Bugpowder>	add up the top 50 people IRL net worth
Mar 24 21:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i have no way of knowing. i'm one of the major holders and my addies aren't on the list.
Mar 24 21:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	what nao
Mar 24 21:19:31 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: none of the top 50 hold even 1% of oustanding dollars.
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Mar 24 21:19:37 <Bugpowder>	O?
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Mar 24 21:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	trivial to hold 1mn btc in 100k 10 btc addies.
Mar 24 21:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	and arguably much better safety too
Mar 24 21:20:04 <tiberiusiv>	yes exactly
Mar 24 21:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	(admitting someone cracks an address)
Mar 24 21:20:11 <Bugpowder>	Who owns Aramco
Mar 24 21:20:14 <tiberiusiv>	the top 500 adress's probably belong to 50 people
Mar 24 21:20:34 <tiberiusiv>	that doesnt even count the spread out individuals
Mar 24 21:20:37 <error4733>	?
Mar 24 21:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	is this where someone whips out a "the richest 50 famblies own 547834987593485 dollars" ?
Mar 24 21:20:56 <tiberiusiv>	the richest families dont own the money.
Mar 24 21:21:13 <tiberiusiv>	they own illiquid assets they can never sell
Mar 24 21:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	o ic.
Mar 24 21:21:21 <mircea_popescu>	this because fiat is broken
Mar 24 21:21:29 <error4733>	dont thinks big holder keep in big wallet, u made 100 address in a second
Mar 24 21:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	btc not being broken... we focus on that.
Mar 24 21:21:35 <MJR_III>	Think big, think positive, never show any sign of weakness. Always go for the throat. Buy low, sell high. Fear? That's the other guy's problem. Nothing you have ever experienced will prepare you for the absolute carnage you are about to witness. Super Bowl, World Series - they don't know what pressure is. In this building, it's either kill or be killed. You make no friends in the pits
Mar 24 21:21:37 <MJR_III>	and you take no prisoners. One minute you're up half a million in soybeans and the next, boom, your kids don't go to college and they've repossessed your Bentley. Are you with me?
Mar 24 21:21:47 <MJR_III>	lol
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Mar 24 21:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	such bs.
Mar 24 21:22:01 <tiberiusiv>	yea MJR im sure your selling low and high with your 25 btc's
Mar 24 21:22:10 <tiberiusiv>	you a player
Mar 24 21:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	why ? chix in the pits are some of the hottest sackpanthers you'll ever befriend
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Mar 24 21:24:30 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: if you a baller why not flash some addresses up here
Mar 24 21:24:47 <tiberiusiv>	channels logged.
Mar 24 21:24:58 <Bugpowder>	so what?
Mar 24 21:25:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol. let the kid be.
Mar 24 21:25:06 <tiberiusiv>	make the cash without the flash
Mar 24 21:25:09 <Bugpowder>	what evidence do we have that you are a baller
Mar 24 21:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	he's taking the boy approach to learning, challenging stuff.
Mar 24 21:25:25 <Bugpowder>	you could just be pretending...
Mar 24 21:25:28 <tiberiusiv>	learning what? so far what ive seen in here is massive misunderstandings of markets
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Mar 24 21:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, that.
Mar 24 21:25:56 <tiberiusiv>	no understanding of liquidty, bid/asks spreads. confusion over the fact that a tiny group of bitcoiners has massive price influence.
Mar 24 21:26:15 -kloeri-	[Global Notice] Hi again. The network issues is caused by a DDoS attack and we're working with our sponsors to have it filtered. Depending on how bored the attacker is it could be a while before everything is back to normal however. Sorry about the stability issues caused by this.  
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Mar 24 21:26:20 <Bugpowder>	that too
Mar 24 21:26:20 <tiberiusiv>	the major holders are all to happy to get coinlab to accept wallstreet bids.
Mar 24 21:26:33 <Bugpowder>	why wouldn't we be?
Mar 24 21:26:36 <tiberiusiv>	since they need HUGE bids to be able to effectively cashout
Mar 24 21:26:44 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder sush you are small time
Mar 24 21:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if annoyed ddos person manages to take off freenode
Mar 24 21:26:53 <tiberiusiv>	you were crying over $4k lost in papergains
Mar 24 21:27:00 <Bugpowder>	??
Mar 24 21:27:13 <Bugpowder>	show me the log
Mar 24 21:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	anyone wanna bet on that ?
Mar 24 21:27:38 <Bugpowder>	I cry over ever missed bit cent.
Mar 24 21:27:44 <MJR_III>	tiberiusiv: it was a quote from trading spaces btw
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Mar 24 21:28:02 <MJR_III>	tiberiusiv: you usually sound like a person who has no real experience beyond a textbook
Mar 24 21:28:22 <MJR_III>	anyone who believes in the efficient market theorem sounds like a freshman economics major
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Mar 24 21:31:10 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: here is why we wouldn't be...  Coinlab is more likely to get hacked than to get wall street bids.
Mar 24 21:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	actually the more amusing part is this "coinlab wallstreet" business.
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Mar 24 21:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	hot damn!
Mar 24 21:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	this guy keeps being a half second ahead of me.
Mar 24 21:32:00 <Bugpowder>	that's why I'm making money off you
Mar 24 21:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	haha i see
Mar 24 21:32:12 <Bugpowder>	or at least off your bondholders
Mar 24 21:32:23 <Bugpowder>	you have cleverly firewalled the risk
Mar 24 21:32:29 <tiberiusiv>	well coinlab does seem like a joke
Mar 24 21:32:54 <tiberiusiv>	top 26 BTC adress's are about 10% of all BTC outstanding lol
Mar 24 21:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	do you mean coinbase or coinlab ?
Mar 24 21:33:04 <Bugpowder>	both
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Mar 24 21:33:25 <Bugpowder>	coinlab is a joke (for now), coinbase is a clusterfuck
Mar 24 21:33:43 <tiberiusiv>	when does coinlab officially open
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Mar 24 21:33:48 <Bugpowder>	coinlab does have the potential to become even more of a clusterfuck than coinbase
Mar 24 21:34:14 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: nobody knows.  They moved thier alpha date to 'real soon now'  2 weeks after they said it was opening.
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Mar 24 21:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	i would argue against such potential.
Mar 24 21:34:40 <Bugpowder>	heh
Mar 24 21:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	not because of them, obviously.
Mar 24 21:35:25 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 24 21:35:26 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.143377065659 seconds
Mar 24 21:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 24 21:35:30 <Bugpowder>	their 'partnership' with gox immediately raises thier potential beyond anything coinbase can fuck up
Mar 24 21:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	i am getting 6gbit for the record.
Mar 24 21:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	FUCK YOU MR DDOS MAN :D
Mar 24 21:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	mwahaha
Mar 24 21:36:28 <dub>	weaksauce
Mar 24 21:36:34 <MJR_III>	lol nice job mircea_popescu
Mar 24 21:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	everyone's like... snickering and shit.
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Mar 24 21:36:54 <mircea_popescu>	there's a lot of fun can be had with computers srsly.
Mar 24 21:36:58 <MJR_III>	fucking testament to the strength of bitcoin as an IDEA that it survives the shitty management that people throw at it
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Mar 24 21:37:13 <mircea_popescu>	haha now that's a point
Mar 24 21:37:21 <MJR_III>	and i am not talking even about EXECUTING WELL
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Mar 24 21:37:28 <MJR_III>	i am just talking about TALKING WELL
Mar 24 21:37:37 <MJR_III>	managing expectations
Mar 24 21:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III you're new, do you know the genjix speech ?
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Mar 24 21:37:49 <MJR_III>	no
Mar 24 21:37:51 <mircea_popescu>	o boy.
Mar 24 21:37:59 <MJR_III>	and i am mjr_ so somewhat new
Mar 24 21:38:08 <MJR_III>	but we've talked before
Mar 24 21:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/amir-taaki-has-done-and-continues-to-do-huge-disservice-to-anyone-serious-involved-in-bitcoin/
Mar 24 21:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	there. talkingwell.
Mar 24 21:39:39 <MJR_III>	fuck...not sure where i left that cookie lol
Mar 24 21:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol so make another one
Mar 24 21:40:07 <Bugpowder>	someone should start pastebinning these posts
Mar 24 21:40:18 <Bugpowder>	cut off mircea_popescu's revenue stream
Mar 24 21:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	fu commie
Mar 24 21:40:29 <Bugpowder>	S.MPOEs bid support collapses
Mar 24 21:40:34 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 24 21:40:36 <Bugpowder>	MPEx folds
Mar 24 21:40:41 <mircea_popescu>	i built it all on 0.1 cent article reads!
Mar 24 21:40:43 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin drops to 0.01
Mar 24 21:40:46 <MJR_III>	i was gonna ask how much actual revenue
Mar 24 21:40:50 <dub>	;;google anonymizer
Mar 24 21:40:50 <MJR_III>	could he possibly get
Mar 24 21:40:51 <gribble>	Anonymizer - Online Privacy, Security, and Anonymous Surfing ...: <https://www.anonymizer.com/>; Anonymizer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymizer>; anonymizer.nntime.com home page: <http://anonymizer.nntime.com/>
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Mar 24 21:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	UNTOLD FORTUNES
Mar 24 21:41:23 <MJR_III>	priced so cheap that the time it took to set up was more than the cost
Mar 24 21:41:37 <MJR_III>	and now i'm doubling that cost i suppose
Mar 24 21:41:39 <dub>	anyway its probably not worth reading
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Mar 24 21:41:52 <MJR_III>	lol, i gotta say the content is worth the price
Mar 24 21:41:53 <dub>	in that if you don't already know what a fuckup amir is, you don't really want to
Mar 24 21:42:03 <dub>	its hard to look at
Mar 24 21:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Mar 24 21:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	dub baby, he was A DEVTEAM GUY this time last year,.
Mar 24 21:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	you're aware yes ? painfully aware yes ?
Mar 24 21:43:13 <dub>	yes I am pained by his continued existence
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Mar 24 21:43:33 <MJR_III>	"Taaki is a speaker of Esperanto" srsly?
Mar 24 21:43:56 <MJR_III>	so he can talk to the other five guys?
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Mar 24 21:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	i think vrag is one of the other five
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Mar 24 21:44:19 <MJR_III>	lol, anyway...he is a fuckup, he was behind intersango
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Mar 24 21:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	o, no.
Mar 24 21:44:39 <mircea_popescu>	hes' the guy who "opensourced" the bitcoinica code, so abominations like bitfinex could spring up
Mar 24 21:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	except he opensourced it with sensitive passwords in the codebase
Mar 24 21:44:51 <mircea_popescu>	which resulted in a "heist"
Mar 24 21:45:01 <dub>	we haven't heard from Amir in a little while (afaik), I had hoped that his mother stopped suckling and he starved to death
Mar 24 21:45:27 <MJR_III>	USD11.90000 last intersango usd trade
Mar 24 21:45:29 <MJR_III>	buy buy buy
Mar 24 21:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, boiler room is downloaded and my toes are being suckled on so i shall bid you all a very fine evening and be back later.
Mar 24 21:45:40 <MJR_III>	let me know if you like it
Mar 24 21:45:49 <dub>	good movie
Mar 24 21:45:49 <MJR_III>	the notorious big quote was from taht movie
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Mar 24 21:50:18 <smickles>	holy crap, mpexbot took 20 gig in a second and then upstream cut them off
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Mar 24 21:50:33 <Bugpowder>	wat?
Mar 24 21:50:36 <smickles>	er, minute
Mar 24 21:50:39 <Bugpowder>	your bot?
Mar 24 21:51:42 <smickles>	$depth dice
Mar 24 21:51:44 <mpexbot>	smickles: S.DICE Bids: ['1512 @ 0.0038512', '1000 @ 0.00385001', '1000 @ 0.00380002', '250 @ 0.00380002', '5555 @ 0.0036']
Mar 24 21:51:45 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['1907 @ 0.00444436', '500 @ 0.00444437', '900 @ 0.0044444', '204 @ 0.00444442', '1000 @ 0.00449999']
Mar 24 21:51:47 <smickles>	Bugpowder: ^
Mar 24 21:52:14 <Bugpowder>	is that your bot?
Mar 24 21:52:21 <smickles>	i maintain it
Mar 24 21:52:35 <Bugpowder>	I was afk during most of the DDOS
Mar 24 21:52:39 <Bugpowder>	kewl
Mar 24 21:52:58 <Bugpowder>	u r part of the mpex ecosystem
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Mar 24 22:02:40 <tiberiusiv>	top 410 adresses control roughly 35% of all BTC
Mar 24 22:05:31 <tiberiusiv>	theres a possibility 100 individuals own 50% of BTCs outstanding lol
Mar 24 22:06:18 *	Received a CTCP PING 1364177177 496166 from smickles (to #bitcoin-assets)
Mar 24 22:06:39 <smickles>	!last s.dice
Mar 24 22:06:49 <smickles>	assbot?
Mar 24 22:06:58 <smickles>	kakobrekla: assbot offline?
Mar 24 22:07:37 <MJR_III>	wow so the ddos is affecting all of freenode
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Mar 24 22:09:13 <Thinker_>	Max Keiser owns 20000 BTC
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Mar 24 22:10:32 <MJR_III>	Thinker_ he has signed a message with an address that has 20000 btc?
Mar 24 22:10:33 <Thinker_>	at least he said he became a "bitcoin millionaire" when USD/BTC was 50
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Mar 24 22:11:02 <MJR_III>	lol, after watching his show, i would take anything he says with considerable skepticism
Mar 24 22:11:04 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin has one of the worst "wealth" distributions of any monetary system yet
Mar 24 22:11:12 <Thinker_>	MJR_III:  good point :)
Mar 24 22:11:23 <MJR_III>	tiberiusiv: dude...if it is so bad, why get involved?
Mar 24 22:11:38 <tiberiusiv>	MJR what are you talking about?
Mar 24 22:11:44 <MJR_III>	at the end of the day all that matters is what you do
Mar 24 22:11:47 <MJR_III>	if its good, buy
Mar 24 22:11:51 <MJR_III>	if it's bad, sell
Mar 24 22:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	hallo. i got my film interrupted ;/
Mar 24 22:12:02 <MJR_III>	really only two choices
Mar 24 22:12:07 <tiberiusiv>	no what matters is what happens when the tiny % that influence 90% of the market change their mind.
Mar 24 22:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	we're seeing 11gbps sustained and peaks to 25 range.
Mar 24 22:12:24 <MJR_III>	yeah freenode put out alerts
Mar 24 22:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... i guess we find out today huh.
Mar 24 22:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	but so far it's not good enough.
Mar 24 22:12:59 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: what film?
Mar 24 22:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	boiler room
Mar 24 22:13:44 <tiberiusiv>	its more of an amusement movie
Mar 24 22:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 24 22:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	what else movie could it be ?!
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Mar 24 22:14:41 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: a better one is glengary glen ross
Mar 24 22:14:47 <mircea_popescu>	ya but that one i saw.
Mar 24 22:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. "i'm not your friend, that's your mother's racket. i'm your father, i tell you when you fuck up"
Mar 24 22:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	solid concept.
Mar 24 22:15:16 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: did you see what I said happened to mpexbot?
Mar 24 22:15:36 <ozonelayer>	hey all. I have a question about mpex options. what is the size of each contract. 100BTC? I can't find this anywhere...
Mar 24 22:15:43 <smickles>	1btc
Mar 24 22:15:53 <ozonelayer>	1?
Mar 24 22:15:55 <smickles>	yup
Mar 24 22:16:03 <ozonelayer>	odd...
Mar 24 22:16:23 <smickles>	a little
Mar 24 22:16:28 <mircea_popescu>	smickles yes.
Mar 24 22:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	ozonelayer 1 btc per contract.
Mar 24 22:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	why'dya think that's odd ?
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Mar 24 22:17:46 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 24 22:17:47 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.112129211426 seconds
Mar 24 22:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
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Mar 24 22:18:34 <ozonelayer>	mircea_popescu: ok. thanks. typically, options are usually in units of 100 of the underlying asset. just a convention i believe (though SEC in the us may make this required...i'm not sure)
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Mar 24 22:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	ozonelayer from a general pov tho, the best unit is THE unit, ie 1.
Mar 24 22:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	if they were stacks of 100 the price'd just be higher, not like you can't stack them in 100s if you want.
Mar 24 22:19:54 <ozonelayer>	yea...i agree. however, the convention is well established. so, this kinda goes opposite of it. no big deal. i just buy 100 as many
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Mar 24 22:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	yeh.
Mar 24 22:30:28 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: rofl @ taaki article
Mar 24 22:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134687421996.jpg
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Mar 24 22:44:11 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/
Mar 24 22:44:11 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 08:15:50 2013
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Mar 24 22:44:29 <MJR_III>	strong ass ddos tonight
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Mar 24 22:46:19 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 24 22:46:20 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 24 22:47:30 <smickles>	lol,
Mar 24 22:47:39 <smickles>	goxlag is broken
Mar 24 22:47:45 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 24 22:47:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.20001, Best ask: 70.25001, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 70.25003, 24 hour volume: 42883.17754023, 24 hour low: 63.51000, 24 hour high: 72.49999, 24 hour vwap: 69.52634
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Mar 24 22:50:30 <MJR_III>	been surprisingly boring tonight on gox
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Mar 24 22:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 24 22:52:27 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.108052015305 seconds
Mar 24 22:52:38 <MJR_III>	lol during ddos
Mar 24 22:53:04 <MJR_III>	what is NAT.ROUTERS?
Mar 24 22:53:17 <MJR_III>	i mean...network address translation routers seems obviuos
Mar 24 22:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III it's an old inside joke.
Mar 24 22:53:41 <MJR_III>	but how does that relate to a tradeable asset?
Mar 24 22:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	sorta runninggag.
Mar 24 22:53:46 <MJR_III>	ah ok
Mar 24 22:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	it's not.
Mar 24 22:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	one of these days i gotta get myself a new keyboard that has a functioningspacebar
Mar 24 22:54:13 <mircea_popescu>	fuck
Mar 24 22:54:22 <MJR_III>	how did you write those spaces?
Mar 24 22:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	it works like cunt
Mar 24 22:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes.
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Mar 24 22:55:10 <Chaang-Noi>	oh thanks smickles
Mar 24 22:55:35 <MJR_III>	how'd you like boiler room?
Mar 24 22:55:50 <Chaang-Noi>	but gox is slow too and all the other exchanges
Mar 24 22:55:54 <Chaang-Noi>	like really slow
Mar 24 22:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III i got interrupted.
Mar 24 22:57:57 <dub>	jesus croquet playing christ I have an urgent need to break some fucking neck
Mar 24 22:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	buy puppies.
Mar 24 22:57:57 <MJR_III>	bunnies are better
Mar 24 22:57:57 <MJR_III>	but i am on one more finance movie for the night
Mar 24 22:57:57 <MJR_III>	trading places
Mar 24 22:57:57 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 24 22:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, teh boys seem to be having things under control, so i'll prolly resume
Mar 24 22:57:57 <dub>	motherfucking corporate leeches existing for he express purpose of doing nothing useful ever
Mar 24 22:58:55 <MJR_III>	dub: what else is new
Mar 24 22:59:36 <MJR_III>	dub: what is the specific reason behind that statement?
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Mar 24 23:01:48 <dub>	asshats reworking policy they don't understand, slapping completely unrelated 'standards' designations on documents that don't come close to touching the subject matter
Mar 24 23:02:00 <MJR_III>	ah i see
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Mar 24 23:02:50 <dub>	and nobody thinks to either fire these prolific masturbating timesinks or let me punch them in the face until they die
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Mar 24 23:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	"The home-made bomb exploded at a Polemidia branch ATM machine near the city of Limassol at around 12.30 a.m. on Monday."
Mar 24 23:03:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013/03/24/angry-cypriots-blow-up-bank-of-cyprus-atm/
Mar 24 23:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	dude i'm fucked\
Mar 24 23:03:50 <mircea_popescu>	dub i'd fire them. you work for the wrong boss.
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Mar 24 23:19:19 <Chaang-Noi>	lol dub, im okay if you hit them till they die if that helps
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Mar 24 23:47:33 <Chaang-Noi>	back in the 70s for the weekend, crazy shit
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Mar 24 23:57:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 24 23:57:32 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227909 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1914 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 18 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7152581.64559 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.82149
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Mar 25 00:23:14 <Bowjob>	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/02/20/bc-pidgin-protest.html
Mar 25 00:23:35 <Bowjob>	poor people protesting a restaurant in vancouver.. wtf
Mar 25 00:23:41 <smickles>	???
Mar 25 00:23:43 <Bowjob>	for gentrifying the land
Mar 25 00:23:44 *	smickles reads
Mar 25 00:23:53 <Bowjob>	im tempted to eat at that restaurant now
Mar 25 00:23:53 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 25 00:24:29 <Bowjob>	basically downtown east side.. is the worst part of vancouver where poor people naturally reside
Mar 25 00:24:41 >NickServ<	identify ****
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Mar 25 00:24:56 <Bowjob>	then this new restaurant came up that the locals cant afford.. so they start protesting
Mar 25 00:31:25 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 25 00:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	are they protesting that t hey're poor or that other people are rich ?
Mar 25 00:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	"Protesters say the restaurant -- which offers a modern menu fusing Asian and French flavours - is gentrifying the area and the premises would be better used for housing."
Mar 25 00:32:47 <mircea_popescu>	lmao. they paid the rent. they get to say what the premises are best used for.
Mar 25 00:32:59 <mircea_popescu>	these people should be convicted to 50-100 hours of mandatory capitalism training.
Mar 25 00:33:07 <mircea_popescu>	fuck sensitivity, it won't get you out of the slums.
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Mar 25 00:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	fuck gay rights and women issues and all the rest of the bs.
Mar 25 00:33:33 <mircea_popescu>	you go about saying "x's money should be better used for your own aggenda" you get arrested and you go to capitalism training.
Mar 25 00:33:34 <Chaang-Noi>	communists should be shot...
Mar 25 00:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Mar 25 00:33:43 <Chaang-Noi>	and socalists while we are at it...
Mar 25 00:33:55 <Chaang-Noi>	at least in places they can vote:)
Mar 25 00:33:57 <mircea_popescu>	idiots should be shot. communists should just be starved to death.
Mar 25 00:33:58 <smickles>	shooting communists is a waste of resources
Mar 25 00:34:17 <Chaang-Noi>	not if they can vote
Mar 25 00:34:38 <Bowjob>	thats the pressing issue here in vancouver. a freaking restaurant
Mar 25 00:34:54 <Bowjob>	i looked at their menu.. its not that expensive compared to other restaurants here
Mar 25 00:35:09 <Chaang-Noi>	your poor have too much money... they should not have the energy to revolt...
Mar 25 00:35:20 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi it's not the poor revolting.
Mar 25 00:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	it's a bunch of uppity young kids who couldn't get into a real school
Mar 25 00:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	and need something to tell daddy over sunday dinner
Mar 25 00:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	as to where his college fund went.
Mar 25 00:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	can't just say "sorry dad, i'm a failure, my double major in dumbfuckery is useless"
Mar 25 00:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	much easier to say "society is broken1!111!"
Mar 25 00:36:06 <Chaang-Noi>	okay then the people who should be poor, like out of work kids are too rich...
Mar 25 00:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, but kinda hard to get parents to throw out the refuse they spawned.
Mar 25 00:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	they kinda get attached to them.
Mar 25 00:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	"my own kid, how could he be stupid"
Mar 25 00:36:37 <Chaang-Noi>	i started work at age 12, im sure my son will as well
Mar 25 00:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	well... sometimes it happens.
Mar 25 00:36:55 <Chaang-Noi>	i moved to a country were we can avoid silly things like labour laws
Mar 25 00:37:13 <mircea_popescu>	certainly if i ever have kids it will not be in a white country.
Mar 25 00:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	egypt, burma, whatever the fuck. something real.
Mar 25 00:37:36 <mircea_popescu>	brazil.
Mar 25 00:37:44 <Chaang-Noi>	burma is where i ahve had my eye for a long time, lots of opertuinity there
Mar 25 00:37:49 <smickles>	hmm, i guess my daughter is done for then
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Mar 25 00:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	anything as long as it's not something run by the celebrated failures.
Mar 25 00:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	smickles whyssat ?
Mar 25 00:38:21 <smickles>	she's an american
Mar 25 00:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's gonna be a tough thing to be in a coupla decades, so
Mar 25 00:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't be  too worried.
Mar 25 00:38:47 <jcpham>	western samoa
Mar 25 00:38:52 <jcpham>	already looking for land
Mar 25 00:38:57 <Chaang-Noi>	africa i would personally stay away from
Mar 25 00:38:58 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham isn't that too close ?
Mar 25 00:39:07 <jcpham>	middle of the pacific
Mar 25 00:39:10 <jcpham>	close tonz
Mar 25 00:39:23 <jcpham>	we've been there. i have friends there
Mar 25 00:39:24 <mircea_popescu>	ya but i mean culturally close.
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Mar 25 00:39:28 <jcpham>	not really
Mar 25 00:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	isn't it practically a sort of puerto rico ?
Mar 25 00:39:34 <jcpham>	not really. not at all
Mar 25 00:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	(i have no idea, just asking)
Mar 25 00:39:39 <jcpham>	they live in opoen air huts
Mar 25 00:39:45 <jcpham>	sleep on mats
Mar 25 00:39:53 <mircea_popescu>	eternal campink
Mar 25 00:39:58 <jcpham>	yes
Mar 25 00:40:04 <jcpham>	catch water in ceisterns
Mar 25 00:40:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i want has go, if btc keep trucking up im going to be doing a lot more traveling
Mar 25 00:40:08 <jcpham>	no plumbing
Mar 25 00:40:13 <jcpham>	pre-paid electricity
Mar 25 00:40:19 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Mar 25 00:40:24 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh i like prepaid everything
Mar 25 00:40:32 <jcpham>	it's off the map as far as i'm concerned
Mar 25 00:40:34 <smickles>	wow, i really have no idea where my daughter will end up. I guess the best thing to teach here is wilderness survival skills
Mar 25 00:41:08 <Chaang-Noi>	wilderness survival skills are over rated... if we need to go there there will be way too many people
Mar 25 00:41:12 <jcpham>	eats lots of taro root and papaya
Mar 25 00:41:15 <Chaang-Noi>	just tach her how to use arms, and have lots of them
Mar 25 00:41:16 <jcpham>	it grows everywhere there
Mar 25 00:41:29 <Chaang-Noi>	taro root sucks, papaya is pretty nice
Mar 25 00:41:36 <jcpham>	taro chips own
Mar 25 00:41:44 <Chaang-Noi>	anything deep fried is good
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Mar 25 00:41:49 <jcpham>	not sure why i like taro
Mar 25 00:42:17 <jcpham>	buddy is samoan, we've been there, i like it is cheap
Mar 25 00:42:27 <jcpham>	USD is like 5:1 their money
Mar 25 00:42:38 <smickles>	I think the wilderness survival skills I was taught helped me in a number of other areas, and I've only used the survival skills directly in recreational situations
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Mar 25 00:43:11 <MJR_III>	the philippines
Mar 25 00:43:13 <MJR_III>	i think
Mar 25 00:43:25 <smickles>	nothin' beats catching a catfish on a self-constructed hook, line and rod
Mar 25 00:43:32 <Chaang-Noi>	 130nm with 6-8J/GH.      how is this compared to bfl?
Mar 25 00:43:45 <MJR_III>	seasteading
Mar 25 00:43:46 <jcpham>	also i live on the lake now
Mar 25 00:43:48 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 25 00:43:52 <jcpham>	we've been fishing for 3 days
Mar 25 00:43:56 <jcpham>	and eating fish
Mar 25 00:43:59 <MJR_III>	but seriuosly i think you could set up a nice little island in the phils
Mar 25 00:44:03 <jcpham>	i like to eat for free
Mar 25 00:44:22 <Chaang-Noi>	island in phils, watch out for pirates and muslumz... no joke
Mar 25 00:44:37 <smickles>	next month, we witness jcpham mad as a hatter
Mar 25 00:45:41 <MJR_III>	anyways hasta mananaa
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Mar 25 00:45:54 <MJR_III>	good luck trading
Mar 25 00:46:03 <Bowjob>	yah, muslims in the phils are fake
Mar 25 00:46:10 <Bowjob>	they are just innit for the beheading
Mar 25 00:46:47 <Bowjob>	the real muslims, (the pissed off kind) mean business
Mar 25 00:46:51 <jcpham>	smickles i'm pretty mad already
Mar 25 00:46:58 <Bowjob>	the ones in phils shits and giggles when they behead someone
Mar 25 00:47:05 <jcpham>	i can't see how i could get crazier
Mar 25 00:47:24 <Bowjob>	and rythmically time their 'allah snackbar' chants witch each stab
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Mar 25 00:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	papaya is disgusting
Mar 25 00:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	i'd rather eat used tampons
Mar 25 00:50:03 <jcpham>	hater
Mar 25 00:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	dude, it's obnoxious, it smells great and tastes rotten
Mar 25 00:50:26 <jcpham>	i'll make sure to invite you to my dirt hut and feed you papaya stew mircea_popescu
Mar 25 00:50:46 <jcpham>	it'll be great, you'll sit on an old log
Mar 25 00:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	i'll eat your pets.
Mar 25 00:50:56 <jcpham>	it'll smell like old socks
Mar 25 00:51:16 <jcpham>	we can have a hut orgy
Mar 25 00:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	allah has a snack bar ?@
Mar 25 00:51:23 <jcpham>	the neighbors would lose it
Mar 25 00:51:48 <jcpham>	bunch of fat samoans standing around my hut in a real life circle jerk
Mar 25 00:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	who am i going to have an orgy with ?!
Mar 25 00:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	you and that dude you hooked up with ?!
Mar 25 00:51:59 <jcpham>	porabably the dudes
Mar 25 00:52:04 <MJR_III>	but i think also if you are in the phils you could start a remittance service
Mar 25 00:52:10 <MJR_III>	$$$
Mar 25 00:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	myeah. i'll have my secretary check my schedule for me.
Mar 25 00:52:20 <jcpham>	k cool
Mar 25 00:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	the dude translating mpex faq to spanish made "small mormon family" into "familia de profesionales"
Mar 25 00:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	i was like... yeah that's legit.
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Mar 25 00:55:27 <jcpham>	does Mormonism translate into spanish
Mar 25 00:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	notrly.
Mar 25 00:56:12 <jcpham>	can you teach a spanish person their religion is wrong and theat a guy from America is the one true prophet
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Mar 25 00:56:20 <jcpham>	not sure if culturally correct
Mar 25 00:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	some dumbass who was "reading" a language he didn't speak
Mar 25 00:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	and then forgot what he read and couldn't read it again
Mar 25 00:56:46 <mircea_popescu>	so he had to start over when he lost his original notes
Mar 25 00:57:25 <jcpham>	we have some really fucked up religion in America
Mar 25 00:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how many self-identified "mormons" are aware they're on mormon 2.0, 1.0 having been around for about sixteen months
Mar 25 00:57:41 <jcpham>	Jehovah's witnesses are another classic subject
Mar 25 00:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	back in the 1800s
Mar 25 00:58:07 <jcpham>	they don't believe in christmas or birthdays
Mar 25 00:58:19 <jcpham>	so like jehovah girls are broken
Mar 25 00:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham running joke in this group of law sophomores was threatening them with prosecution for perjury
Mar 25 00:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	as they didn't actually witness it.
Mar 25 00:58:40 <jcpham>	because their parents never celebrated anything with them
Mar 25 00:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	don't they celebrate first period or some weird shit "?
Mar 25 00:59:00 <jcpham>	jehovah kids are strange
Mar 25 00:59:05 <jcpham>	watch yourself
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Mar 25 01:03:07 <smickles>	lol, one of those witnesses found me with my daughter
Mar 25 01:03:38 <smickles>	i kept the convo full of subtle puns which indicated i was an atheist
Mar 25 01:03:45 <smickles>	all flew over his head
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Mar 25 01:04:09 <smickles>	he wanted to tell me that i needed his god to be a good dad
Mar 25 01:04:35 <smickles>	i said something about having the natural capability
Mar 25 01:05:10 <smickles>	he complimented my daughter's beautiful eyes, saying that they were evidence of the spectical of god
Mar 25 01:05:43 <Chaang-Noi>	christans are not know to be the smarts bunch
Mar 25 01:05:50 <smickles>	i asked him if he noticed that they presented an evolved trait of one half of one eye being blue
Mar 25 01:06:03 <Chaang-Noi>	or any flavourt of org religion (but jedi)
Mar 25 01:06:11 <smickles>	a trait that basically proves evolution in itself by the way it presents in humans
Mar 25 01:07:00 <smickles>	dude had no luck converting me to his creationist ways. but I gave him a fair chance
Mar 25 01:07:32 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: yeah, those fsm pirates are nutters too
Mar 25 01:08:32 <smickles>	;;lucky fsm pirate
Mar 25 01:08:33 <gribble>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
Mar 25 01:08:39 <smickles>	hah
Mar 25 01:08:40 <mircea_popescu>	smickles your daughter has half a b lue eye !?
Mar 25 01:08:47 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i forgot about them, they be the awesome
Mar 25 01:08:57 <Chaang-Noi>	i almost got registered as a minster under them
Mar 25 01:09:00 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: yup, and all her children and their children and so on will too
Mar 25 01:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	stop beating her!
Mar 25 01:09:40 <Chaang-Noi>	fsm is est religion evar, much better than jedi
Mar 25 01:09:45 <smickles>	maybe the dood thought it was the mark of satan, cause that was the end of our convo
Mar 25 01:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	heh mark of satan
Mar 25 01:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure satan has black eyes
Mar 25 01:10:45 <Bowjob>	http://twitpic.com/c99taj/full
Mar 25 01:10:49 <Bowjob>	our busses are polite
Mar 25 01:10:54 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 75
Mar 25 01:10:56 <gribble>	There are currently 19286.523 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 1425775.04212 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Mar 25 01:11:03 <Chaang-Noi>	20k hmm
Mar 25 01:11:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 01:11:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.00000, Best ask: 72.31499, Bid-ask spread: 0.31499, Last trade: 72.31499, 24 hour volume: 42712.39071457, 24 hour low: 65.11200, 24 hour high: 72.50000, 24 hour vwap: 69.98001
Mar 25 01:11:13 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 99.99
Mar 25 01:11:13 <gribble>	There are currently 45087.562 bitcoins offered at or under 99.99 USD, worth 3779057.44622 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.9417 seconds
Mar 25 01:11:36 <Bowjob>	that dude that wants to smuggle funds to malasia would push us to 100 bucks
Mar 25 01:11:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: also, because of it, she should be able to see and distinguish more colors than normal people
Mar 25 01:12:06 <smickles>	how do i teach her about a color which i can't see myself, i ask you
Mar 25 01:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	she'll figure it out.
Mar 25 01:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	also, better start investing in guns
Mar 25 01:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	you'll need em in ~16 years.
Mar 25 01:14:09 <smickles>	the guns never kept me away from others' daughters when i was young
Mar 25 01:14:24 <smickles>	maybe they were all just pussies tho
Mar 25 01:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	well they prolly just couldn't shoot straight.
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Mar 25 01:33:29 <smickles>	wth is this song about, i don't understand anywhere near enough french for it
Mar 25 01:34:24 <smickles>	TO THE INTERNET!
Mar 25 01:36:16 <smickles>	oh my, that's a much, much more sexual song than i thought it was
Mar 25 01:37:38 <Namworld>	I think I might know what song you're talking about... and the first time I heard it I was like "WTF?"
Mar 25 01:37:49 <smickles>	orly?
Mar 25 01:37:56 <Namworld>	English people probably just don't know anything it says.
Mar 25 01:38:02 <smickles>	care to try and guess it for fun?
Mar 25 01:38:25 <Namworld>	I have no idea what's the title. But I heard it often on the radio.
Mar 25 01:38:49 <smickles>	can you attempt to misspell some of the words?
Mar 25 01:39:03 <smickles>	or hey, i'll link you to it
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Mar 25 01:39:46 <smickles>	holy shit, i would've know had i watched the youtube video
Mar 25 01:39:48 <smickles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y99UqvgCmE8
Mar 25 01:39:53 <smickles>	Namworld: ^ was that it?
Mar 25 01:40:29 <Namworld>	nope
Mar 25 01:41:17 <Namworld>	idk that one... same category I guess tho
Mar 25 01:41:25 <smickles>	wow, looking up the lyrics to all the french songs which i had no idea what they are about, .. they are pretty much all about sex
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Mar 25 01:43:29 <Namworld>	Try some french canadian songs instead.
Mar 25 01:43:37 <Namworld>	They're mostly sad.
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Mar 25 01:44:25 <smickles>	ok, this is just getting silly. it's making french seem like a person speaking english, just a little mixed around and really, really goofy
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Mar 25 01:46:39 <smickles>	like, pretend you are one of those daft people who speak to babies in a strange way, but get hit in the head a couple of times
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Mar 25 02:02:47 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone have a mac book pro or mac book air?
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Mar 25 02:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/smpoe-market-cap-vs-sdice-market-cap/
Mar 25 02:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone is a graph reading expert, please read that to me.
Mar 25 02:06:42 <Chaang-Noi>	can read your own chart?
Mar 25 02:06:45 <Chaang-Noi>	cant*
Mar 25 02:07:34 <Chaang-Noi>	it measn s.dice is now worth 60% of what it was worth at its highest valuation
Mar 25 02:07:59 <Chaang-Noi>	so someone could theroreticaly ahve lost 40% of their welath buying at the top
Mar 25 02:08:08 <toffoo>	Chaang-Noi: yes MBP
Mar 25 02:08:43 <Chaang-Noi>	toffoo can it run linux well, thinkinga bout buying one and loading on mint 14
Mar 25 02:09:32 <toffoo>	would probably make most sense to keep OS X and load linux into a VMware virtual machine
Mar 25 02:09:32 <Chaang-Noi>	mp if you did a chart for btc the 100% would be at 74.9 and now it would be at like 95% (72.00)
Mar 25 02:10:08 <Chaang-Noi>	my goal is to keep an encrypted os to keep a btc wallet while i travel
Mar 25 02:10:34 <Chaang-Noi>	only think i need it for is btc
Mar 25 02:10:35 <toffoo>	OSX has native full disk encryption .. no need for linux for that
Mar 25 02:11:16 <Chaang-Noi>	im going to buy it at the store, how do i encrypt it?
Mar 25 02:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi this is a mkt cap chart tho. if i took the dollar total value of BTC and the dollar value of a small company and compare them
Mar 25 02:11:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i have not used a mac in over 20 years
Mar 25 02:11:41 <Chaang-Noi>	mp lol what?
Mar 25 02:11:49 <toffoo>	there's an option in settings .. it does it in the background while you work .. it's really easy
Mar 25 02:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 25 02:12:01 <Chaang-Noi>	mp what i said stands unless there was share dilution
Mar 25 02:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	there's no price in there, it's a ratio.
Mar 25 02:12:46 <Chaang-Noi>	that is why i know the guy lost 40% if bought at a high, im not telling you a price he lost at, just a ratio... 40$ is a ratio
Mar 25 02:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	mno.
Mar 25 02:13:07 <Chaang-Noi>	mno means?
Mar 25 02:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	say today google mkt cap is 5bn and apple mkt cap is 4 bn. then that would be 80% for that day on the graph
Mar 25 02:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	tomorrow goog mkt cap is 6bn and apple 4.5 bn
Mar 25 02:13:32 <Chaang-Noi>	you cant look at it like that lol
Mar 25 02:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	that's 75% on graph
Mar 25 02:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Mar 25 02:13:39 <Chaang-Noi>	your chart does not show anything abouty that]
Mar 25 02:13:46 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 25 02:14:08 <Chaang-Noi>	your chart only looks at s,.dice with limited info
Mar 25 02:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	dude you're telling me what it does based on you having glanced at it ?
Mar 25 02:14:31 <mircea_popescu>	stop being so superficial wth.
Mar 25 02:14:41 <Chaang-Noi>	it would be silly to take that chart and then look at a google chart... you could, but the only thing you could gain in knowledge is to see if the trend down was the same or not
Mar 25 02:14:49 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 25 02:15:10 <Chaang-Noi>	i honestly belive you do not know how to read that chart...
Mar 25 02:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	listen. it's X item valued in btc divided by Y item divided in btc
Mar 25 02:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	the price has been divided out, it's just relative sizes.
Mar 25 02:15:39 <Chaang-Noi>	all you show in the chart however is a ratio...
Mar 25 02:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
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Mar 25 02:16:45 <Chaang-Noi>	it is easy to see (assuming no share delution, or buy backs) a guy if invested at the top has lost 40%
Mar 25 02:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	40% whats ?
Mar 25 02:17:02 <Chaang-Noi>	wealth
Mar 25 02:17:17 <Chaang-Noi>	in whatever currancy the market cap was figured in
Mar 25 02:17:24 <Chaang-Noi>	im going to assume btc
Mar 25 02:17:48 <mircea_popescu>	listen, if i divide a distance in meters by another distance in meters, what will the result be measured in ?
Mar 25 02:18:05 <Chaang-Noi>	that is why i gave you the ratio of 40%
Mar 25 02:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 25 02:18:22 <Chaang-Noi>	you then asked of what
Mar 25 02:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 25 02:18:30 <Chaang-Noi>	so to find that out i have to see where you started
Mar 25 02:18:34 <Chaang-Noi>	and i assume you started with btc
Mar 25 02:18:43 <Chaang-Noi>	this is basic chart read and basic maths?
Mar 25 02:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	yeah lol. it is pretty basic, but apparently not quite understood.
Mar 25 02:19:42 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i can see that, but really its not a hard chart, look at some other real life examples and i think you can get it to click
Mar 25 02:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi you're the one that's not getting it is the problem.
Mar 25 02:20:14 <Chaang-Noi>	also you should not start that chart at 0 but rather the ipo price
Mar 25 02:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	come up with an example of such a chart, i'm curious.
Mar 25 02:20:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i ahve nothing to prove to up mp, you asked for my help, i gave it. take it or not, up to you
Mar 25 02:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	lolk.
Mar 25 02:21:20 <Chaang-Noi>	others here will tell you im correct in what i said if you have doubts.
Mar 25 02:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	that'll be just as entertaining as the original.
Mar 25 02:22:08 <Chaang-Noi>	yes, i agree
Mar 25 02:22:51 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe someone else can explain it a bit better than i, im not a good teacher.
Mar 25 02:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	you're a very good dunnker-krugerand tho. it compensates.
Mar 25 02:26:55 <Bowjob>	"Currently waiting to transfer flights in Europe, this week should be fun." -Loaded
Mar 25 02:27:06 <Bowjob>	hold on to the rockets
Mar 25 02:27:14 <Bowjob>	bears gonna get slaughtered
Mar 25 02:27:18 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, i help you out and you give me insults:)   you must be a very angry guy.
Mar 25 02:27:42 <Chaang-Noi>	hope loaded is not a troll
Mar 25 02:28:05 <Bowjob>	mhm, it could be he's planning a dump as wella ctually
Mar 25 02:28:09 <Bowjob>	he owns like 40k something btc
Mar 25 02:28:19 <Bowjob>	but i dont see why he would od that
Mar 25 02:28:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i doubt he dumps
Mar 25 02:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi dude, angry bs. the situation is this : i open up something for public discussion, you come up with a completely misunderstood notion of wtf it is. i tell you so.
Mar 25 02:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	im not angry or elated or anything else. just slightly amused.
Mar 25 02:41:00 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 25 02:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	think of it in terms of countries. there's two countries and we're measuring their power.
Mar 25 02:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	the smaller one goes from 40% to 80% of the bigger one during 2012
Mar 25 02:42:11 <mircea_popescu>	then suddenly drops back to 20% during a few months
Mar 25 02:42:19 <mircea_popescu>	then starts climbing up to like 60% in a few weeks.
Mar 25 02:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	the question is why ?!
Mar 25 02:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	what has happened that turned the slow uptrend into a sudden downtrend late december ?
Mar 25 02:42:58 <mircea_popescu>	and then what has happened to turn it back again early feb ?
Mar 25 02:43:10 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah trends are about the only thing you can look at here, and really they both could have lost 99% of value or gained 99% of value in the real world, this kinda of chart is not really sueful for much
Mar 25 02:43:21 <Chaang-Noi>	it is only usefull if you have context
Mar 25 02:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	well yes, if both suddenly lost 99% of value in one week that wouldn't show on the graph
Mar 25 02:43:51 <Chaang-Noi>	share dilution would be one thing we would need to know
Mar 25 02:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	only their relative evolution is shown, all the outside noise tuned out
Mar 25 02:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	like btc going up and down etc
Mar 25 02:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	there was no share dillution tho.
Mar 25 02:44:18 <Chaang-Noi>	if on lost 99.5% and on lost 99% just looking at the chart we would think the one that only lost 99% is better
Mar 25 02:44:28 <mircea_popescu>	double, actually. yes.
Mar 25 02:44:48 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean shares coming onto the market, when did he dump that extra 3% of the company? cuz that was 33.33% more shares traded
Mar 25 02:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	well, i sold 10mn packs a number of times and erik i think sold 1mn 3x
Mar 25 02:45:29 <mircea_popescu>	diff times.
Mar 25 02:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	iirc in february
Mar 25 02:46:09 <cads>	Hey guys, what do you think about the threatened attack against the LTC? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153460.0
Mar 25 02:46:12 <Chaang-Noi>	when he sold he put a lot of downard pressure on the stock and thus the whole company valueation
Mar 25 02:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	and yet trend is up
Mar 25 02:46:46 <Chaang-Noi>	cads he needs to add 3 0s to his bounty...
Mar 25 02:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	cads uhm
Mar 25 02:47:04 <Chaang-Noi>	mp trend is up to the other stock, but mdice has lost value
Mar 25 02:47:10 <Chaang-Noi>	sdice
Mar 25 02:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	wait. to highlight the insecurity he's going to pay someone to highlight the insecurity ?
Mar 25 02:47:14 <cads>	evening, mircea. Hah, Chaang-Noi.
Mar 25 02:47:44 <Chaang-Noi>	mp it is a retarded troll who fails at life... cads should ignore him, or if not make fun of him
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Mar 25 02:48:27 <Chaang-Noi>	mp that chart you made, with out context can not really show a whole lot of info, unless your whole world is nothing but s.dice and the other stock
Mar 25 02:49:11 <cads>	Chaang-Noi: yeah, sure, ignore the dude, and everyone else calls him by his initials ;)
Mar 25 02:49:14 <Chaang-Noi>	we need context
Mar 25 02:49:37 <Bowjob>	avalon just sent out a newsletter
Mar 25 02:49:44 <Chaang-Noi>	cads what?
Mar 25 02:49:53 <Chaang-Noi>	ignore the guy trying to attack ltc not mp
Mar 25 02:49:58 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob link ?
Mar 25 02:50:20 <cads>	Chaang-Noi: ah
Mar 25 02:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi the other world kinda is only those yeah.
Mar 25 02:50:37 <cads>	yeah, he isn't really signalling very credibly
Mar 25 02:51:08 <Chaang-Noi>	cads it wont happen this was treid 9 months ago it failed hard
Mar 25 02:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	the recent bitcoin misadventure has clearly shown we need at least one backup
Mar 25 02:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	honestly i hope more people make more alt chains
Mar 25 02:51:58 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah its why i hold over 100k ltc
Mar 25 02:52:08 <Chaang-Noi>	im not a btc nut, im a crypto coin nut
Mar 25 02:52:28 <Bowjob>	chang, i wont exactly link you to my email accoun
Mar 25 02:52:29 <Bowjob>	t
Mar 25 02:52:39 <cads>	Chaang-Noi: Hear hear.
Mar 25 02:52:40 <Chaang-Noi>	true cryptoi anarchists wont care for the btc brand name like the many who attack ltc...
Mar 25 02:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob pastebin ?
Mar 25 02:52:50 <Bowjob>	mhm, sure
Mar 25 02:52:51 <Chaang-Noi>	damn you bowjob!!!   :)
Mar 25 02:53:20 <Bowjob>	http://pastebin.com/BBjr9B78
Mar 25 02:53:37 <Bowjob>	the original email is an eyesore, i actually put it on word..
Mar 25 02:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	We plan to start shipping majority of batch two orders starting on 15th of April.
Mar 25 02:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	this used to be "shipped by 15th of april" eh
Mar 25 02:54:40 <Chaang-Noi>	well it is just a "plan"
Mar 25 02:55:08 <Bowjob>	Basically what he;s saying is batch 2 will arrive at the end of may
Mar 25 02:55:20 <Chaang-Noi>	and bfl is still 4 to 6 weeks
Mar 25 02:55:23 <Bowjob>	since some bullshit reason will give them another excuse
Mar 25 02:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	so basically avalon is going full mining farm. big surprise.
Mar 25 02:55:23 <Chaang-Noi>	go asicminer
Mar 25 02:55:37 <Chaang-Noi>	if i was avalon i would too
Mar 25 02:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	ya. currently #1 threat to bitcoin
Mar 25 02:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	larger than mtgox, if that can even be believed
Mar 25 02:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	larger than the weirdo devteam
Mar 25 02:55:59 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc is asic resistant
Mar 25 02:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	they're a problem.
Mar 25 02:56:36 <Chaang-Noi>	we might see 70% if the netwrok at two places in china if bfl fails like they might
Mar 25 02:56:42 <Bowjob>	so if avalon 3s dont get purchased,  yifu will mine themselves
Mar 25 02:57:18 <Bowjob>	no mention of a vacation
Mar 25 02:57:19 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 02:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 25 02:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	"this was the plan all along".
Mar 25 02:57:41 <Bowjob>	gah, so by end of may
Mar 25 02:57:53 <Bowjob>	sucks, i was hoping to get the best birthday present ever
Mar 25 02:57:55 <Bowjob>	fuck that shit.
Mar 25 02:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	if the western world we're sane this'd be pretty much the start of ww3.
Mar 25 02:59:22 <Chaang-Noi>	honestly there is no reason why they should not keep the hardware once all orders all filled, however bfl can do this for years, lol
Mar 25 02:59:27 <Chaang-Noi>	cant
Mar 25 02:59:28 <Bowjob>	" organize"
Mar 25 02:59:35 <Bowjob>	mean vacation
Mar 25 02:59:48 <Chaang-Noi>	chinese do not vacation like you or me...
Mar 25 02:59:59 <Chaang-Noi>	vacation means work differently,
Mar 25 03:00:57 <Bowjob>	bfl syndrome
Mar 25 03:00:58 <Bowjob>	fuck them
Mar 25 03:01:20 <Bowjob>	why cant we have a reputable asic vendor. that does exactly what they say they would
Mar 25 03:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	Shipping Time: May 5st, 2013
Mar 25 03:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	may 5st!
Mar 25 03:02:27 <Bowjob>	"a brand new SMT line in our facility. This upgrade will effectively double our production capacity, it enable us to put Avalon into the hands of our customer even faster. The new line is currently scheduled to come online during the last week of April"
Mar 25 03:02:51 <Bowjob>	What I don't get is.. if SMT line is scheduled to go online at the end of April..
Mar 25 03:03:04 <Bowjob>	and they say they will ship the majority in the middle of April
Mar 25 03:03:28 <Bowjob>	taht means they will only ship 300 at most in the middle of april
Mar 25 03:04:07 <Bowjob>	the other half at the end of april, adding extra delays and fuckups.. the "shipping date" will be May 5th, followed with 3 weeks of uncertainty
Mar 25 03:04:27 <Bowjob>	and followed with the actual stuff getting into customers' hands at the end of may
Mar 25 03:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	maybe
Mar 25 03:09:15 <ZedsterX>	pardon the interuption but is https://btc.penek.org/ down for everyone
Mar 25 03:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't load for me
Mar 25 03:09:50 <ZedsterX>	thx MP
Mar 25 03:15:20 <Chaang-Noi>	mp may 5st? lol for what?
Mar 25 03:15:45 <Chaang-Noi>	last half of batch 2?
Mar 25 03:16:04 <Bowjob>	yeah the max they can produce is batch 3
Mar 25 03:16:06 <Bowjob>	i mean
Mar 25 03:16:12 <Bowjob>	300 units
Mar 25 03:16:24 <Bowjob>	for half of april, factoring the fuckups, shipping 5-10 a day
Mar 25 03:16:37 <Bowjob>	k, the math doesnt add up they ship a bit more than that..
Mar 25 03:17:01 <Bowjob>	yeah, chances are.. batch 2.5 will be at the hands of customers at the end of may
Mar 25 03:19:22 <Chaang-Noi>	works for me
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Mar 25 03:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	basically bitcoin is on a countdown before avalon gets too much mining together.
Mar 25 03:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	well played, i must agree, throw a few scraps to the clueless westerners, enough to get them to front your capital.
Mar 25 03:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	unethical, but then again chinese.
Mar 25 03:27:01 <Bowjob>	they still have one big haul left
Mar 25 03:27:11 <mircea_popescu>	time is tickingaway.
Mar 25 03:27:32 <Bowjob>	so they will get about 2.6 million dollars
Mar 25 03:27:49 <Bowjob>	and makea  farm for themselves
Mar 25 03:27:55 <Chaang-Noi>	mp i would do what they did if i had rthe skillz
Mar 25 03:28:05 <Bowjob>	if they dont get the 2.6, they will mine anyway
Mar 25 03:28:17 <Chaang-Noi>	i would stay under 50% hoowever
Mar 25 03:30:06 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 03:30:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.00001, Best ask: 72.27999, Bid-ask spread: 0.27998, Last trade: 72.00001, 24 hour volume: 43429.77497546, 24 hour low: 66.10000, 24 hour high: 72.78499, 24 hour vwap: 70.24961
Mar 25 03:34:05 <Bowjob>	75btc for avalon 3
Mar 25 03:37:33 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 75
Mar 25 03:37:36 <gribble>	There are currently 18991.757 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 1404049.42126 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Mar 25 03:37:50 <Chaang-Noi>	lost 1000 on the weekend, good news...
Mar 25 03:38:20 <Namworld>	?
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Mar 25 03:40:16 <Chaang-Noi>	either someone bought into the walls or they were taken down by 1000 coins since like 8 hours ago
Mar 25 03:40:35 <Chaang-Noi>	makes me all bullish inside my special placez
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Mar 25 03:43:12 <Namworld>	uh... not sure what's going on exactly but eh
Mar 25 03:43:26 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 25 03:43:43 <Namworld>	You lost 1000 BTC? I hope not. Maybe USD?
Mar 25 03:43:53 <Chaang-Noi>	no no
Mar 25 03:44:01 <Chaang-Noi>	the asks lost 1000 btc under 75
Mar 25 03:44:06 <Namworld>	oh
Mar 25 03:44:08 <Namworld>	right
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Mar 25 03:44:10 <Chaang-Noi>	price moving up
Mar 25 03:44:23 <Namworld>	there's two big walls left
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Mar 25 03:46:09 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah but we are moving in the right direction, and it still weekend sorta
Mar 25 03:47:56 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 25 03:48:05 <Namworld>	Well I doubt these walls will hold
Mar 25 03:48:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i doubt 48 hours, unless we crash
Mar 25 03:53:22 <Bowjob>	loaded is hinting at a european client
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Mar 25 03:57:16 <Bowjob>	All right, for those of you who like to gamble, batch 3 will open in a few hours
Mar 25 03:57:37 <Bowjob>	I will take a look at whats going on.. but i wont buy
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Mar 25 04:09:55 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 25 04:09:58 <gribble>	55107.853568001425
Mar 25 04:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. from 88 - 115 to 75
Mar 25 04:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	avalon pricing is an exercise in pulling numbrrs out of ass
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Mar 25 04:16:17 <dub>	they could charge anything and people will buy them
Mar 25 04:16:34 <Namworld>	Where's topace seriously...
Mar 25 04:21:22 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157789.msg1670399#msg1670399
Mar 25 04:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	lmao check out the junior members
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Mar 25 05:07:05 <Bowjob>	0
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Mar 25 05:47:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 25 05:48:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 25 05:48:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79802 BTC [-]
Mar 25 05:48:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.79801 = 3.192 BTC [-]
Mar 25 05:48:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.798 = 3.99 BTC [-]
Mar 25 05:48:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7925 = 2.3775 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 05:49:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7925 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 05:58:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5934 @ 0.00065033 = 3.8591 BTC [-]
Mar 25 05:59:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 96 @ 0.00438 = 0.4205 BTC [+]
Mar 25 05:59:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 19 @ 0.004395 = 0.0835 BTC [+]
Mar 25 06:00:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 435 @ 0.00465 = 2.0228 BTC [+]
Mar 25 06:00:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 139 @ 0.00469 = 0.6519 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 06:06:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.17639 BTC [+]
Mar 25 06:06:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1764 BTC [+]
Mar 25 06:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.501 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 06:27:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4304 @ 0.00065033 = 2.799 BTC [-]
Mar 25 06:27:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00065024 = 12.9398 BTC [-]
Mar 25 06:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 596 @ 0.00064326 = 0.3834 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 06:29:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7813 BTC [-]
Mar 25 06:29:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.781 BTC [-]
Mar 25 06:29:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.78 = 4.68 BTC [-]
Mar 25 06:34:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 0.78 = 16.38 BTC [-]
Mar 25 06:35:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 73 @ 0.78 = 56.94 BTC [-]
Mar 25 06:44:17 <deadweas1l>	;;ticker
Mar 25 06:44:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.45383, Best ask: 72.88999, Bid-ask spread: 0.43616, Last trade: 72.45383, 24 hour volume: 43903.14440387, 24 hour low: 67.00001, 24 hour high: 72.93495, 24 hour vwap: 70.83011
Mar 25 06:45:52 <Diablo-D3>	so we're back to that now?
Mar 25 06:47:29 <Namworld>	yes
Mar 25 06:47:37 <Namworld>	Possibly breaking 75 and running up to 100
Mar 25 06:48:03 <Uglux>	call it reloaded™ ;)
Mar 25 06:48:47 <Namworld>	I'm not sure I like the fact it's happening...
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Mar 25 06:53:23 <KRS1>	what makes you think $100
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Mar 25 06:56:01 <Namworld>	Actually I don't think we can go to or over the line.
Mar 25 06:56:34 <Namworld>	But price tends to move and stop at round numbers.
Mar 25 06:59:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.804 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 07:18:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.809 BTC [+]
Mar 25 07:19:07 <ChaangNoi>	hmm, i like it better at .085
Mar 25 07:19:21 <ChaangNoi>	wonder why it is going down with avalon and bfl fail
Mar 25 07:22:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.819 BTC [+]
Mar 25 07:22:47 <ChaangNoi>	well this is the right direction atleast:)
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Mar 25 07:32:14 <Bowjob>	what happened to avalon bet
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Mar 25 07:33:39 <Bowjob>	seems like it got removed
Mar 25 07:34:08 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 07:34:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.30372, Best ask: 72.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.39627, Last trade: 72.30372, 24 hour volume: 46499.99170688, 24 hour low: 67.00001, 24 hour high: 73.00000, 24 hour vwap: 70.99670
Mar 25 07:38:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00439 = 0.0659 BTC [+]
Mar 25 07:43:18 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 07:43:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.21001, Best ask: 72.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.48998, Last trade: 72.21000, 24 hour volume: 46190.13268606, 24 hour low: 67.00001, 24 hour high: 73.00000, 24 hour vwap: 71.02465
Mar 25 07:46:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.81 BTC [-]
Mar 25 07:46:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00064326 = 1.2222 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 07:56:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0047 = 0.0094 BTC [+]
Mar 25 07:58:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.81 BTC [-]
Mar 25 08:03:07 <jurov>	http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1364140800.php ftw
Mar 25 08:03:17 <jurov>	lol let's call them by right name: cartel currencies!
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Mar 25 08:17:19 <jurov>	so, another ddos that took out mpex.coinbr.com by shrapnel, too...
Mar 25 08:17:34 <jurov>	beefed it up, waiting what comes next
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Mar 25 08:23:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5004 @ 0.00064326 = 3.2189 BTC [-]
Mar 25 08:23:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00064295 = 5.2722 BTC [-]
Mar 25 08:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00063865 = 12.4217 BTC [-]
Mar 25 08:23:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17946 @ 0.00063656 = 11.4237 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 08:41:05 <damientrog>	shouldn't the avalon store open now?
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Mar 25 08:48:08 <damientrog>	ah it seems to work
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Mar 25 09:02:50 <splnkr>	damientrog: did you get one? they're already sold out
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Mar 25 09:03:07 <damientrog>	I got a confirmation
Mar 25 09:03:22 <splnkr>	i missed batch 2 by a few minutes and yet I was ready to spend 4X as much to get in on this one
Mar 25 09:03:26 <splnkr>	looks like i just missed it too
Mar 25 09:03:34 <damientrog>	and payed a lot of money
Mar 25 09:03:38 <splnkr>	congrats to you if you made it!
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Mar 25 09:04:01 <damientrog>	thanks
Mar 25 09:04:01 <splnkr>	yeah at least the dropped it from 88 to 72 BTC
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Mar 25 09:11:28 <imsaguy>	aww
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Mar 25 09:27:13 <deadweas1l>	is bitbet.us down?
Mar 25 09:27:17 <deadweas1l>	nope, just slow.
Mar 25 09:27:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00063802 = 11.7077 BTC [+]
Mar 25 09:27:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00064993 = 2.2748 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 09:42:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 25 09:42:26 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227960 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1863 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 5 hours, 6 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6715661.70839 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.29624
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Mar 25 09:45:56 <Bowjob>	seems avalon sold out
Mar 25 09:45:58 <Bowjob>	within 30 mins
Mar 25 09:46:17 <Bowjob>	k, thats way worse than my 24 hour prediction
Mar 25 09:46:21 <Bowjob>	shoulda said within 1 hr
Mar 25 09:46:57 <ThickAsThieves>	thats 300 units at 72btc was it?
Mar 25 09:47:33 <Bowjob>	500
Mar 25 09:47:50 <Bowjob>	at either 72 BTC each, or 100 BTC for 4 modules
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Mar 25 09:48:11 <Bowjob>	i wish i got an option for 4 modules on batch 2
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Mar 25 09:49:27 <Bowjob>	http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/131/288/spongebob-butthurt.gif
Mar 25 09:49:38 <Bowjob>	someone's ranting on forums that they couldnt buy lol
Mar 25 09:50:42 <ThickAsThieves>	its just so amazing that BFL really is not shipping yet
Mar 25 09:50:54 <ThickAsThieves>	we need more asic suppliers
Mar 25 09:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.50500001 = 1.01 BTC [+]
Mar 25 09:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.505 = 1.01 BTC [-]
Mar 25 09:52:04 <Bowjob>	micon is the winner of the bet
Mar 25 09:52:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.501 = 2.004 BTC [-]
Mar 25 09:52:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4905 = 0.981 BTC [-]
Mar 25 09:52:10 <Bowjob>	the whole thing is a scam
Mar 25 09:52:32 <Bowjob>	there is apparently a new asic supplier
Mar 25 09:52:42 <Bowjob>	shipping fall/winter
Mar 25 09:53:06 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158044.0
Mar 25 09:53:11 <ThickAsThieves>	that Helveticoin thing?
Mar 25 09:53:24 <ThickAsThieves>	oh anothernother one
Mar 25 09:54:27 <Bowjob>	another one
Mar 25 09:54:30 <Bowjob>	this one is prolly a scam
Mar 25 09:54:36 <Bowjob>	anyone got batch 3?
Mar 25 09:54:52 <Bowjob>	I considered it, but I have batch 2 incoming..
Mar 25 09:54:59 <Bowjob>	i dont want to be too greedy
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Mar 25 09:56:32 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 09:56:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.90001, Best ask: 73.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 73.01000, 24 hour volume: 50819.94621131, 24 hour low: 67.45000, 24 hour high: 73.01000, 24 hour vwap: 71.34375
Mar 25 09:56:57 <unbalanced>	Bowjob when do you expect it to arrive?
Mar 25 09:57:11 <Bowjob>	my batch two will arrive in the middle of may
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Mar 25 09:57:39 <Bowjob>	batch 3 will arrive at the beginning of july
Mar 25 09:57:40 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 25 09:57:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.49050000 / 0.51929412 / 0.53000000 (68 shares, 35.31199991 BTC), 7D: 0.40000000 / 0.48153116 / 0.53200000 (1169 shares, 562.90992223 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.55362601 / 0.69400000 (5727 shares, 3170.61617943 BTC)
Mar 25 09:57:47 <topace>	!ticker h vtx
Mar 25 09:57:48 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.63210000 / 0.74049568 / 0.77980000 (176 shares, 130.32723989 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.41016687 / 0.77980000 (10816 shares, 4436.36481305 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.41016687 / 0.77980000 (10816 shares, 4436.36481305 BTC)
Mar 25 09:57:49 <unbalanced>	That'll probably still beat my BFL order from last Nov.
Mar 25 09:57:57 <Bowjob>	yes of course
Mar 25 09:58:09 <unbalanced>	How much was it in Batch 2?
Mar 25 09:58:21 <Bowjob>	37500 BTC at least were put into batch 3
Mar 25 09:58:33 <Bowjob>	that is not some easy number in BTC land..
Mar 25 09:58:38 <Bowjob>	they are betting BFL wont ship
Mar 25 09:58:43 <Bowjob>	500 units
Mar 25 09:58:55 <Bowjob>	snapped in 30 mins... i gave third batch 24 hours.. damn
Mar 25 09:59:45 <Bowjob>	how much u paid for bfl?
Mar 25 10:00:09 <unbalanced>	$1299 USD was 106 BTC back in Nov.
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Mar 25 10:00:24 <unbalanced>	Are you sure it's against the rules to slap myself here?
Mar 25 10:00:48 <Bowjob>	yikes. you could afford about 2 Avalons
Mar 25 10:00:56 <Bowjob>	i only paid 56 BTC for my avalon 2
Mar 25 10:01:15 <unbalanced>	Would you like a co-investor in your batch 2? I could hedge my BFL exposure that way.
Mar 25 10:01:28 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 25 10:01:33 <Bowjob>	nty, :P
Mar 25 10:01:55 <Bowjob>	i believe if BFL ships, their capacity would be so limited
Mar 25 10:01:55 <ThickAsThieves>	i will gladly lend you 50btc today for 500btc tomorrow
Mar 25 10:02:49 <Bowjob>	what you could hedge with is this.. http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/
Mar 25 10:03:23 <Bowjob>	though it seems BFL investors are losing hope
Mar 25 10:03:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00449999 = 13.05 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:03:48 <unbalanced>	It's always darkest before the meteor strikes.
Mar 25 10:04:55 <Bowjob>	so you ordered in nov
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Mar 25 10:05:01 <ThickAsThieves>	why does that print sometimes show [-] when it should be [+]?
Mar 25 10:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4905 = 0.981 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:05:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.45005 = 1.3502 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:05:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.450001 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:05:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.45 = 5.85 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 10:05:31 <unbalanced>	Yep, so I'll be way after other BFL deliveries.
Mar 25 10:05:41 <unbalanced>	I'm *that* full of win.
Mar 25 10:06:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i had a bfl order, but cancelled it earlier this year
Mar 25 10:06:14 <ThickAsThieves>	bought BTC instead
Mar 25 10:06:16 <Bowjob>	You did well
Mar 25 10:06:32 <leotablet>	what happened to the Avalon batch 1 bet on bitbet?
Mar 25 10:07:06 <taub>	boom bye bye wall
Mar 25 10:07:12 <Bowjob>	i thought mp closed it since he lost..
Mar 25 10:07:16 <taub>	someone here using sierra charts?
Mar 25 10:07:22 <Bowjob>	because it was sorta ambigous.. he bet on np
Mar 25 10:07:30 <taub>	is it possible to show volume in bitcoins and not in ticks
Mar 25 10:07:30 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Mar 25 10:07:33 <Bowjob>	its pending, actually
Mar 25 10:07:39 <Bowjob>	thank satoshi..
Mar 25 10:07:52 <Bowjob>	if that bet gets canned, its a red flag
Mar 25 10:07:57 <taub>	is satoshi one of the original developers?
Mar 25 10:07:58 <Bowjob>	conflict of interest
Mar 25 10:08:05 <Bowjob>	yes
Mar 25 10:08:16 <leotablet>	I got mine delivered today
Mar 25 10:08:17 <taub>	and he runs the dice game? or is that just in honor of him
Mar 25 10:08:25 <leotablet>	I bet 3 btc
Mar 25 10:08:30 <Bowjob>	its a marketing ploy
Mar 25 10:08:42 <Bowjob>	satoshi has nothing to do with s.dice
Mar 25 10:08:48 <taub>	ic
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Mar 25 10:08:59 <taub>	btc breaking out btw ;)
Mar 25 10:09:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 25 10:09:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.86254, Best ask: 74.88766, Bid-ask spread: 0.02512, Last trade: 74.86254, 24 hour volume: 56982.87826385, 24 hour low: 67.45000, 24 hour high: 74.86254, 24 hour vwap: 71.58647
Mar 25 10:09:08 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Mar 25 10:09:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 80
Mar 25 10:09:18 <gribble>	There are currently 12350.322 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 941216.151012 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0022 seconds
Mar 25 10:09:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 70
Mar 25 10:09:20 <gribble>	There are currently 6557.6808 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 467816.87006 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.4252 seconds
Mar 25 10:09:25 <Enky>	;;asks 90
Mar 25 10:09:25 <gribble>	There are currently 18442.798 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 1460512.2211 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.6800 seconds
Mar 25 10:09:33 <splnkr>	lol a zig zag to be enjoyed throughly
Mar 25 10:09:40 <Enky>	;;bids 60
Mar 25 10:09:41 <gribble>	There are currently 31425.905 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.0 USD, worth 2089676.87999 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.4083 seconds
Mar 25 10:09:46 <splnkr>	i'm with y'all
Mar 25 10:09:56 <Bowjob>	where is that chart from BFL.. about the shipping dates
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Mar 25 10:11:21 <Bowjob>	"The currently estimated shipping time frame if you were to order today is the end of April or Beginning of May. This is just an estimate, and until we know how many units we can produce per day and specifically when the bulk of our chips will be ready, we can't give a more accurate estimate."
Mar 25 10:11:25 <Bowjob>	hahahahahhahahaahaahah
Mar 25 10:11:33 <Bowjob>	according to josh
Mar 25 10:11:49 <deadweas1l>	lol
Mar 25 10:11:59 <deadweas1l>	bfl has been entertaining from the start
Mar 25 10:12:22 <Bowjob>	can someone post that chart about bfl shipment
Mar 25 10:12:30 <Bowjob>	like, if u ordered back in june or something
Mar 25 10:12:40 <Bowjob>	i swear i saw one..  cant find it
Mar 25 10:12:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009899 = 0.0495 BTC [+]
Mar 25 10:13:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont recall any gfx
Mar 25 10:13:19 <ThickAsThieves>	here's a summary page https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/1099-orders-shipping-pictures-facility-when-my-stuff-here-why-delays-shipping.html
Mar 25 10:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 6 @ 0.05500538 = 0.33 BTC [+]
Mar 25 10:14:53 <ThickAsThieves>	this one has a bunch of dates https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
Mar 25 10:15:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.09 = 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:15:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [+]
Mar 25 10:15:44 <Bowjob>	not that unfortunatel
Mar 25 10:15:48 <Bowjob>	i give up
Mar 25 10:16:08 <Bowjob>	basically, someone who ordered in nov, according to the "chart" will recieve theirs may
Mar 25 10:16:12 <Bowjob>	irrc
Mar 25 10:16:24 <ThickAsThieves>	its all nonsense at this point anyway
Mar 25 10:16:46 <ThickAsThieves>	they need to ship 1 unit before any dates matter at all
Mar 25 10:16:48 <Bowjob>	but we know thats bullshit because bfl's chart says those who preordered first would get theirs feb or march
Mar 25 10:16:58 <Bowjob>	avalon 3 will ship first
Mar 25 10:17:11 <Bowjob>	37,500 BTC says so
Mar 25 10:17:13 <Bowjob>	not me
Mar 25 10:17:16 <Bowjob>	but the BTC does
Mar 25 10:17:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 25 10:17:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.75000, Best ask: 74.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 74.00000, 24 hour volume: 57944.78653082, 24 hour low: 67.47000, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 71.65377
Mar 25 10:18:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 10:18:02 <gribble>	4.549039 seconds
Mar 25 10:18:18 <Bowjob>	Ooh!
Mar 25 10:18:19 <Bowjob>	http://store.avalon-asics.com/?product=avalon-asic-unit
Mar 25 10:18:21 <Bowjob>	its on stock again
Mar 25 10:18:30 <Bowjob>	it seems they limit the stock so that it wont get ddosed
Mar 25 10:19:01 <ThickAsThieves>	any idea how many actually sold?
Mar 25 10:19:13 <Bowjob>	i would imagine a nice round number
Mar 25 10:19:14 <Bowjob>	100
Mar 25 10:19:17 <Bowjob>	or 50
Mar 25 10:19:30 <Bowjob>	500 units will be available
Mar 25 10:19:35 <Bowjob>	then again it could be 250 units too
Mar 25 10:20:03 <ThickAsThieves>	tempted, but i dont thinki could handle the stress of waiting
Mar 25 10:20:05 *	deadweas1l is now known as deadweasel
Mar 25 10:20:38 <deadweasel>	safer with BTC in your own wallet.
Mar 25 10:20:52 <Bowjob>	i bought the majority of my btc dec, 2012
Mar 25 10:20:58 <Bowjob>	so.. its okay with me
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Mar 25 10:25:57 <deadweasel>	yeah, if you can risk it, probably isn't a bad idea.  are you going to pull the trigger on an avalon?
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Mar 25 10:30:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 6 @ 0.05510357 = 0.3306 BTC [+]
Mar 25 10:33:54 <kakobrekla>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ayykn/avalon_asic_batch_3_sold_out/
Mar 25 10:33:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.80998 = 16.1996 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:33:58 <kakobrekla>	O_O
Mar 25 10:34:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.81 = 4.86 BTC [+]
Mar 25 10:35:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.819 = 4.095 BTC [+]
Mar 25 10:35:51 <kakobrekla>	oh so it wasnt sold out?
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Mar 25 10:36:41 <Bowjob>	it just says sold out from time to time
Mar 25 10:36:51 <Bowjob>	because they learned from batch 1 and 2 ordering
Mar 25 10:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 5 @ 0.05516855 = 0.2758 BTC [+]
Mar 25 10:36:59 <Bowjob>	so maybe 100 units per session
Mar 25 10:37:17 <Bowjob>	it will still sell out in 24 hours like i predicted
Mar 25 10:37:37 <kakobrekla>	heh
Mar 25 10:37:39 <kakobrekla>	naive people
Mar 25 10:40:38 <wao>	all time high
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Mar 25 10:40:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01573 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:41:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 25 10:41:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.54000, Best ask: 74.97900, Bid-ask spread: 0.43900, Last trade: 74.95000, 24 hour volume: 59306.49047898, 24 hour low: 67.47001, 24 hour high: 74.95000, 24 hour vwap: 71.73076
Mar 25 10:41:18 <topace>	jesus  101.14 BTC for 4 mod w/atx (85gh)?!
Mar 25 10:41:24 <topace>	why the huge jump in price?
Mar 25 10:41:48 <ThickAsThieves>	make money money money
Mar 25 10:42:09 <ThickAsThieves>	people will pay the price it seems
Mar 25 10:42:12 <ThickAsThieves>	if they do
Mar 25 10:42:20 <ThickAsThieves>	then Avaon is pretty damn smart
Mar 25 10:42:33 <topace>	wtf is going on with bfl? no update in a week and a half?
Mar 25 10:42:42 <ThickAsThieves>	no update til Wed i think
Mar 25 10:42:43 <topace>	still "having problems with the test rig" ??
Mar 25 10:42:58 <Bowjob>	the high price is because it will give 100% roi in about a month
Mar 25 10:43:03 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah they are having problems letting go of it and mining themselves
Mar 25 10:43:13 <Bowjob>	if you multiply the current diff twice today
Mar 25 10:43:16 <Bowjob>	so about 12 mil
Mar 25 10:43:20 <Bowjob>	its still a good buy
Mar 25 10:43:33 <Bowjob>	i still dont think bfl will ship anytime soon
Mar 25 10:44:00 <Bowjob>	so apparently the cause of delay is the ATX
Mar 25 10:44:11 <Bowjob>	.. if it makes my shipment faster, I can do away with the ATX
Mar 25 10:45:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00064713 = 8.9951 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 10:47:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:48:42 <Bowjob>	I recall josh saying the BFL bet for march 1 was gonna be a close one
Mar 25 10:48:44 <Bowjob>	what a liar.
Mar 25 10:48:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 5 @ 0.05539952 = 0.277 BTC [+]
Mar 25 10:48:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01301 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:49:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008501 BTC [-]
Mar 25 10:50:01 <Bowjob>	ATH
Mar 25 10:50:03 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 10:50:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.89684, Best ask: 75.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10316, Last trade: 75.00000, 24 hour volume: 59971.91411337, 24 hour low: 67.75000, 24 hour high: 75.00000, 24 hour vwap: 71.88882
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Mar 25 10:50:52 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 10:50:53 <gribble>	6.927344 seconds
Mar 25 10:55:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 79.99
Mar 25 10:55:15 <gribble>	There are currently 9405.6834 bitcoins offered at or under 79.99 USD, worth 717701.616018 USD in total. | Data vintage: 82.2281 seconds
Mar 25 10:55:24 <ThickAsThieves>	bids 60.01
Mar 25 10:55:32 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 60.01
Mar 25 10:55:32 <gribble>	There are currently 29884.514 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.01 USD, worth 1996044.82564 USD in total. | Data vintage: 99.5886 seconds
Mar 25 10:55:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 70.01
Mar 25 10:55:47 <gribble>	There are currently 5620.2676 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.01 USD, worth 404970.347737 USD in total. | Data vintage: 114.1587 seconds
Mar 25 10:55:56 <ThickAsThieves>	still shallow
Mar 25 10:57:01 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 10:57:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.99994, Best ask: 75.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00006, Last trade: 75.00000, 24 hour volume: 61675.20387455, 24 hour low: 67.75000, 24 hour high: 75.00000, 24 hour vwap: 71.98374
Mar 25 10:57:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 6 @ 0.07419275 = 0.4452 BTC [+]
Mar 25 10:57:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 5 @ 0.08759408 = 0.438 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 10:58:59 <Bugpowder>	Is the MPOE bot tapped out
Mar 25 10:59:03 <Bugpowder>	I want moar
Mar 25 11:00:34 <Bugpowder>	NEEED MORE CALLS
Mar 25 11:00:39 <Bugpowder>	COME BACK MPOEBOT
Mar 25 11:01:33 <thestringpuller>	needs to borrow more money
Mar 25 11:01:36 <thestringpuller>	:P
Mar 25 11:01:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 11:01:45 <gribble>	33.493863 seconds
Mar 25 11:01:50 <ThickAsThieves>	there it goes
Mar 25 11:01:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 25 11:01:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.00000, Best ask: 75.00100, Bid-ask spread: 0.00100, Last trade: 75.00000, 24 hour volume: 64448.06308381, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 75.00000, 24 hour vwap: 72.15001
Mar 25 11:02:01 <ThickAsThieves>	gox freezing price at 75
Mar 25 11:02:13 <ThickAsThieves>	with suggested bid
Mar 25 11:02:14 <taub>	bids are really hungry
Mar 25 11:02:16 <taub>	:)
Mar 25 11:02:21 <taub>	it ate through
Mar 25 11:02:22 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 25 11:02:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.00000, Best ask: 75.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 75.25000, 24 hour volume: 64448.06308381, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 75.00000, 24 hour vwap: 72.15001
Mar 25 11:02:26 <deadweasel>	gox just freezing.
Mar 25 11:02:32 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 11:02:33 <gribble>	41.06127 seconds
Mar 25 11:02:34 <taub>	;;ticker
Mar 25 11:02:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.00000, Best ask: 75.41000, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 75.41000, 24 hour volume: 64448.06308381, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 75.00000, 24 hour vwap: 72.15001
Mar 25 11:02:36 <Bugpowder>	fuck i need more calls
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Mar 25 11:02:52 <Bugpowder>	MPOE bot is sold out I guess.
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Mar 25 11:03:32 <Bowjob>	http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/2789654119_4203f8e3e4.jpg
Mar 25 11:03:32 <Bugpowder>	I only have 3000 calls :(
Mar 25 11:03:37 <Bowjob>	This explains a lot
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Mar 25 11:03:52 <Bugpowder>	bitcoinity should flash that photo
Mar 25 11:03:55 <ThickAsThieves>	is there an mpex options faq?
Mar 25 11:04:03 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder where at
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Mar 25 11:04:07 <taub>	will stop around 76
Mar 25 11:04:23 <taub>	for a moment
Mar 25 11:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.05878437 = 58.7844 BTC [-]
Mar 25 11:04:44 <Bugpowder>	nevermind
Mar 25 11:04:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.0724339 = 72.4339 BTC [-]
Mar 25 11:04:53 <Bugpowder>	got moar
Mar 25 11:05:25 <Bugpowder>	If you will recall, last night I predicted we would break thru 75 between 15:00 and 15:30 today.
Mar 25 11:05:50 <thestringpuller>	remember what happened last time you tried to time the market...
Mar 25 11:05:58 <KRS-1>	lol
Mar 25 11:06:11 <KRS-1>	what happened
Mar 25 11:06:13 <ThickAsThieves>	gox suggested price stil frozen at 75
Mar 25 11:06:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.0884358 = 88.4358 BTC
Mar 25 11:06:25 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 11:06:26 <gribble>	87.806482 seconds
Mar 25 11:06:39 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 25 11:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.26732239 / 69.81455463 / 71.07386247 (27706 shares, 6,570.16 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 25 11:06:43 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: I made a shitload
Mar 25 11:07:04 <thestringpuller>	what about that time did a straddle
Mar 25 11:07:26 <Bugpowder>	that was not the last time
Mar 25 11:07:32 <thestringpuller>	lol
Mar 25 11:07:42 <Bugpowder>	most of my put strategies have been disasterous
Mar 25 11:07:49 <thestringpuller>	yah
Mar 25 11:07:53 <taub>	okay maybe not :)
Mar 25 11:08:03 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 80
Mar 25 11:08:03 <gribble>	There are currently 4840.9168 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 380818.295732 USD in total. | Data vintage: 96.6348 seconds
Mar 25 11:08:17 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 74
Mar 25 11:08:18 <gribble>	There are currently 943.62198 bitcoins demanded at or over 74.0 USD, worth 70879.543115 USD in total. | Data vintage: 111.1004 seconds
Mar 25 11:08:27 <taub>	wow
Mar 25 11:08:27 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 70
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Mar 25 11:08:30 <Bowjob>	we'll reach 100 in early april
Mar 25 11:08:31 <gribble>	There are currently 5820.2281 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 418623.359516 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0068 seconds
Mar 25 11:08:32 <taub>	quite the move despite that imbalance
Mar 25 11:08:45 <taub>	well alright not that much
Mar 25 11:08:52 <Bugpowder>	Bowjob we will hit 96 this week
Mar 25 11:08:53 <thestringpuller>	lol more money movin into gox
Mar 25 11:08:53 <taub>	80 today
Mar 25 11:08:54 <taub>	ez
Mar 25 11:08:55 <Bugpowder>	I hope :)
Mar 25 11:08:58 <thestringpuller>	miners start ya engines
Mar 25 11:08:59 <ThickAsThieves>	77?
Mar 25 11:09:03 <Bowjob>	we will
Mar 25 11:09:05 <Bugpowder>	I dunno about 100
Mar 25 11:09:08 <Bowjob>	i wish i have an mpex account
Mar 25 11:09:09 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 25 11:09:18 <Bugpowder>	why not use coiner?
Mar 25 11:09:19 <thestringpuller>	Powda
Mar 25 11:09:22 <Bugpowder>	coinbr?
Mar 25 11:09:22 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 25 11:09:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.00000, Best ask: 76.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 76.00000, 24 hour volume: 64448.06308381, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 75.00000, 24 hour vwap: 72.15001
Mar 25 11:09:27 <Bowjob>	can coinbr do options?
Mar 25 11:09:30 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 25 11:09:31 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063656 / 0.00065889 / 0.00068342 (339572 shares, 223.74 BTC), 7D: 0.00063656 / 0.00070239 / 0.00077505 (2216783 shares, 1,557.07 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00072046 / 0.00078628 (32186956 shares, 23,189.72 BTC)
Mar 25 11:09:32 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 25 11:09:41 <Bowjob>	wtf i didnt know that
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Mar 25 11:09:43 <Bowjob>	coinbr
Mar 25 11:09:44 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 11:09:47 <Bowjob>	kk
Mar 25 11:09:48 <thestringpuller>	what do you think mpoe bot will make this month?
Mar 25 11:09:51 <Bugpowder>	-20000
Mar 25 11:09:58 <thestringpuller>	:(
Mar 25 11:09:59 <Bugpowder>	seriously
Mar 25 11:10:02 <Bowjob>	but iw ont panick buy right now
Mar 25 11:10:02 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 11:10:12 <thestringpuller>	bondholders are gonna take hit
Mar 25 11:10:13 <Bugpowder>	maybe -10000
Mar 25 11:10:27 <ThickAsThieves>	is there an MPex Options FAQ?
Mar 25 11:10:44 <Bugpowder>	there is a deep explaination by MPOE-PR on the forum
Mar 25 11:10:55 <Bugpowder>	if you have any specific questions I can answer
Mar 25 11:10:58 <thestringpuller>	MPOE stock will plummet then...
Mar 25 11:11:03 <Bowjob>	I told my friends and fam about bitcoin
Mar 25 11:11:07 <Bugpowder>	it already is trading down
Mar 25 11:11:10 <Bowjob>	parents are interested in it..
Mar 25 11:11:17 <Bowjob>	my friends are "meh" about it
Mar 25 11:11:20 <Bugpowder>	people may roll into S.DICE (I hope).
Mar 25 11:11:26 <thestringpuller>	yea until the earnings comes out.
Mar 25 11:11:38 <thestringpuller>	how do you know such a huge loss?
Mar 25 11:11:42 <Chaang-Noi>	76? :)
Mar 25 11:11:45 <ThickAsThieves>	basically i conceptually understand options, but not totally clear on which ones represent what on mpex
Mar 25 11:11:47 <Chaang-Noi>	i fucking love monday
Mar 25 11:11:56 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 25 11:11:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.01234, Best ask: 76.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.88766, Last trade: 76.01234, 24 hour volume: 64448.06308381, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 75.00000, 24 hour vwap: 72.15001
Mar 25 11:12:05 <ThickAsThieves>	it hit 77 according to clarkmoody
Mar 25 11:12:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 5 @ 0.06012379 = 0.3006 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:12:09 <thestringpuller>	i should have bought calls
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Mar 25 11:12:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i really thought about it
Mar 25 11:12:29 <thestringpuller>	well i guess I still can
Mar 25 11:12:39 <thestringpuller>	hey mr. powda
Mar 25 11:12:41 <Chaang-Noi>	i talked to mp about is 75 calls
Mar 25 11:12:54 <thestringpuller>	could you proxy calls to smickles for me?
Mar 25 11:12:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not buy
Mar 25 11:13:01 <thestringpuller>	not many
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Mar 25 11:13:10 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont have an account, i refused the free one offered to me
Mar 25 11:13:26 <thestringpuller>	that was @ Bugpowder
Mar 25 11:13:32 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Mar 25 11:13:39 <Chaang-Noi>	77.2
Mar 25 11:13:46 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 25 11:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.26732239 / 69.81663654 / 71.0760242 (27711 shares, 6,570.46 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 25 11:14:02 <Bugpowder>	sure
Mar 25 11:14:03 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24prc
Mar 25 11:14:04 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24prc" is not a valid command.
Mar 25 11:14:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 5 @ 0.0595729 = 0.2979 BTC [-]
Mar 25 11:14:21 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hrprc
Mar 25 11:14:22 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 25 11:14:29 <thestringpuller>	whats that cimmad
Mar 25 11:14:56 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 25 11:14:58 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: I don't KNOW about that loss.... That is my general sense from the options flow this month
Mar 25 11:14:59 <gribble>	72.28
Mar 25 11:15:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 25 11:15:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.05001, Best ask: 76.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.74999, Last trade: 76.03000, 24 hour volume: 64448.06308381, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 75.00000, 24 hour vwap: 72.15001
Mar 25 11:15:30 <thestringpuller>	well now is the time to make your bets
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Mar 25 11:15:55 <Chaang-Noi>	im more happy now than at 32
Mar 25 11:15:59 <thestringpuller>	Powda can I send you coin and you Push options to smickles
Mar 25 11:16:15 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/Jck5tQQ.png
Mar 25 11:16:37 <Bugpowder>	sure
Mar 25 11:16:43 <Bugpowder>	pm me the amount
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Mar 25 11:17:16 <Chaang-Noi>	im interested in next month 100 calls, what is the price
Mar 25 11:17:25 <Chaang-Noi>	and bugpowder you are a broker?
Mar 25 11:17:30 <Bugpowder>	no
Mar 25 11:17:55 <Bugpowder>	just a favor
Mar 25 11:18:09 <thestringpuller>	smickles is the broker
Mar 25 11:18:16 <thestringpuller>	or jurov via coinbr
Mar 25 11:18:50 <Chaang-Noi>	okay
Mar 25 11:18:55 <Chaang-Noi>	not a problem
Mar 25 11:18:59 <Bowjob>	I feel sorta bad for ATC
Mar 25 11:19:06 <Chaang-Noi>	ATC?
Mar 25 11:19:18 <Bowjob>	i lent him 3 coins at 59 per btc
Mar 25 11:19:22 <Bowjob>	the forum dude
Mar 25 11:19:25 <Bowjob>	ATC777
Mar 25 11:19:32 <Chaang-Noi>	oh you mean the guy who scammed you?
Mar 25 11:19:36 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 25 11:19:38 <Chaang-Noi>	77.7
Mar 25 11:19:43 <Bowjob>	jackpot
Mar 25 11:19:44 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 11:19:48 <Bowjob>	ATC isnt a scammer
Mar 25 11:19:48 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 11:19:56 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
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Mar 25 11:20:16 <Bowjob>	so.. how is ianbakewell gonna react to this
Mar 25 11:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 4 @ 0.0595729 = 0.2383 BTC [-]
Mar 25 11:20:24 <ColdHardMetal>	poorly
Mar 25 11:20:26 <Bowjob>	77 BTC.. he shorted it at 34.5
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Mar 25 11:21:30 <kakobrekla>	isnt he a gonner?
Mar 25 11:21:40 <ThickAsThieves>	he still posts in forums
Mar 25 11:21:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i believe
Mar 25 11:21:52 <Bowjob>	i re read his thread.. ianbakewell.. his first payment is due on the 29th
Mar 25 11:22:07 <Bowjob>	he hasnt been online since the 4th
Mar 25 11:24:13 <Chaang-Noi>	CHM!
Mar 25 11:24:30 <Chaang-Noi>	he be a scammer
Mar 25 11:24:39 <Bowjob>	chm?
Mar 25 11:24:49 <ColdHardMetal>	??
Mar 25 11:24:55 <Chaang-Noi>	not CHM, he is a good guy,. ianbakewellis a clear scammer
Mar 25 11:25:10 <Bowjob>	i proposed a bet that hes gonna scam
Mar 25 11:25:11 <Bowjob>	idk
Mar 25 11:25:13 <Chaang-Noi>	CHM the 5th order of yours today
Mar 25 11:25:15 <ColdHardMetal>	well that's good. Hate to think I was sleep posting or something.
Mar 25 11:25:18 <Bowjob>	kako ignored my bet
Mar 25 11:25:18 <Chaang-Noi>	got*
Mar 25 11:25:39 <ColdHardMetal>	right on. tracking hasn't been updated. did you have to pay anything?
Mar 25 11:25:39 <Chaang-Noi>	thank you very much good sir cmh!
Mar 25 11:25:44 <Chaang-Noi>	chm
Mar 25 11:25:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yes
Mar 25 11:25:52 <Chaang-Noi>	30% taxes
Mar 25 11:26:13 <ColdHardMetal>	yeah. happens. prolly lowballed on the invoice though so maybe not too bad?
Mar 25 11:26:16 <Chaang-Noi>	btc 77.7
Mar 25 11:26:25 <Chaang-Noi>	its okay
Mar 25 11:26:31 <Chaang-Noi>	2000 baht or like 66$
Mar 25 11:26:35 <Chaang-Noi>	so 305 of that
Mar 25 11:26:38 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/QtbTbnL.jpg
Mar 25 11:26:43 <ColdHardMetal>	oh, no worries then.
Mar 25 11:26:50 <ColdHardMetal>	better than Canada that's for sure.
Mar 25 11:26:52 <Chaang-Noi>	and really i dont pay taxes other than on goods like this so i dont give a fuck
Mar 25 11:26:59 <Bugpowder>	2 months ago people ridiculed me for preferring the coin on the right
Mar 25 11:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 4 @ 0.06040495 = 0.2416 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:27:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i think the hk people did the 200 baht valuation, if it was a thai i would have got 0
Mar 25 11:27:33 <Chaang-Noi>	not that it matters, i dont care
Mar 25 11:27:39 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks for the awesome order
Mar 25 11:27:54 <ColdHardMetal>	always a pleasure. let me know when you want to do that other thing.
Mar 25 11:28:33 <Bowjob>	i can see some rust
Mar 25 11:28:36 <Bowjob>	on that coin
Mar 25 11:28:41 <Bowjob>	its plated, right
Mar 25 11:29:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 4 @ 0.06040495 = 0.2416 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 5 @ 0.06040495 = 0.302 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:30:30 <Bowjob>	i like how im just chilling here, not going ballistic over the price anymore
Mar 25 11:30:40 <Bowjob>	does that mean im not a newbie?
Mar 25 11:30:52 <Bowjob>	i graduated from that shit. im hardened a bit nowadays
Mar 25 11:33:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 3 @ 0.07431064 = 0.2229 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:33:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 3 @ 0.06040495 = 0.1812 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:34:26 <ThickAsThieves>	whats the difference between C750T & C750N??
Mar 25 11:34:27 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 11:34:28 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 25 11:34:29 <Bugpowder>	dude I'm not a n00b and I am going ballistinc
Mar 25 11:34:32 <Bugpowder>	N is NEXT month
Mar 25 11:34:36 <Bugpowder>	T is THIS month
Mar 25 11:35:14 <deadweasel>	4.5K to go for $80
Mar 25 11:35:18 <Bowjob>	how much money are u making on this
Mar 25 11:35:25 <KRS-1>	going down it seems we've reached the peak eh
Mar 25 11:35:26 <Bowjob>	i might make a coin.br account
Mar 25 11:35:31 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 11:35:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.28001, Best ask: 77.55643, Bid-ask spread: 0.27642, Last trade: 77.55643, 24 hour volume: 67673.58734707, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 72.92790
Mar 25 11:35:36 <Bugpowder>	KRS-1  its monday
Mar 25 11:35:41 <Bugpowder>	Top will be Thursday
Mar 25 11:35:50 <Bowjob>	our new high is 78
Mar 25 11:37:08 <Bugpowder>	Bowjob: I have no idea.  We don't know where it willgo
Mar 25 11:37:32 <Bugpowder>	hopefully a lot
Mar 25 11:37:39 <Chaang-Noi>	77.93
Mar 25 11:37:51 <Bugpowder>	jesus
Mar 25 11:37:58 <Chaang-Noi>	78????
Mar 25 11:38:00 <Bowjob>	i'll read about coin.br later, not in a rush
Mar 25 11:38:08 <Bugpowder>	people keep putting up asks and they get swallowed in a minute
Mar 25 11:38:18 <Bowjob>	it must be loaded's client
Mar 25 11:38:25 <Bowjob>	so im not surprised
Mar 25 11:38:43 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob no
Mar 25 11:38:59 <Bugpowder>	Bowjob: you need to act decisively when the market moves.  BUT you also need to be sure about your strategy.  There will be many more opportunities both up and down, so do more research first.
Mar 25 11:39:08 <Bowjob>	of course
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Mar 25 11:39:21 <Bowjob>	not in a rush. I just *yawn
Mar 25 11:39:28 <Chaang-Noi>	bitcoinality says 78 coinlab says 79.99
Mar 25 11:39:33 <Bowjob>	buy and hold served me exceedingly well
Mar 25 11:39:38 <Bowjob>	survived the flahs crashes
Mar 25 11:39:39 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 11:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 3 @ 0.07508561 = 0.2253 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:39:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 3 @ 0.06107536 = 0.1832 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:40:19 <Chaang-Noi>	buy and hold unless you are an expert who thinks he can beat otyher experts in a crazy bull market
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Mar 25 11:40:42 <Bowjob>	nah, im a novice bull
Mar 25 11:40:51 <Bowjob>	actually im more like an owl
Mar 25 11:40:56 <Bowjob>	i just sit there.. watching
Mar 25 11:41:01 <Bugpowder>	I have been buying calls at the bottom of the 24vwap following each flash crash
Mar 25 11:41:15 <Bugpowder>	has been a good strat this month
Mar 25 11:41:15 <kakobrekla>	still 73 on stamp
Mar 25 11:41:21 <Bowjob>	then i might become a hawk
Mar 25 11:41:30 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-1.061)
Mar 25 11:41:30 <gribble>	-1229.50819672
Mar 25 11:41:36 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.061)
Mar 25 11:41:36 <gribble>	79.8722044728
Mar 25 11:41:43 <Bugpowder>	of course, the day that the crash does not bounce is the day the strat makes you lose big
Mar 25 11:42:07 <Bowjob>	the idea of puts scare the crap out of me
Mar 25 11:42:31 <Chaang-Noi>	bugpowder is a btc millionair! i hope we all will be as lucky soopn
Mar 25 11:43:21 <Bowjob>	we actually are all btc millionaires at some point in the future
Mar 25 11:43:54 <Bugpowder>	I am not a BTC millionaire
Mar 25 11:44:07 <Bugpowder>	I wish I was
Mar 25 11:44:09 <Bowjob>	you will be though
Mar 25 11:44:14 <Bugpowder>	I doubt it
Mar 25 11:44:21 <Bugpowder>	It is possible
Mar 25 11:44:23 <smickles>	boy did i come to the computer at a fun time
Mar 25 11:44:25 <Bugpowder>	but unlikely
Mar 25 11:44:46 <Bowjob>	eh.. how high can btc be
Mar 25 11:44:47 <Bugpowder>	smickles, I need your mpex key to push you thestringpuller's options purchase
Mar 25 11:44:59 <Bugpowder>	Bowjob: I will probably sell all the way up
Mar 25 11:45:14 <Bowjob>	mmhm
Mar 25 11:45:27 <smickles>	pm'd
Mar 25 11:45:28 <Bugpowder>	very grateful that I was so lucky my initial timing of purchase
Mar 25 11:45:31 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder: that has always seemed like the best strategry, %5 or so at each top
Mar 25 11:45:32 <Bowjob>	there wont be a need to sell it to usd
Mar 25 11:45:33 <Bugpowder>	($2.65!)
Mar 25 11:45:55 <Bugpowder>	deadweasel: yeah, I view it in terms of what am I comfortable holding in my total portfolio
Mar 25 11:46:04 <deadweasel>	clear your investment and some profits, keep in lots of BTC
Mar 25 11:46:16 <Chaang-Noi>	iv this where i club in ral live id give all of you one of my fine cigars from coldhardmetal
Mar 25 11:46:24 <deadweasel>	so you can't lose at that point, if BTC goes to $10,000, you won't be too sad.
Mar 25 11:46:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.06228867 = 0.1246 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:46:36 <deadweasel>	if it goes to $.02 and stays, you won't be too sad
Mar 25 11:46:49 <Bowjob>	erik is gonna be a billionaire
Mar 25 11:46:50 <Bowjob>	heh
Mar 25 11:46:59 <deadweasel>	more power to him
Mar 25 11:47:08 <Chaang-Noi>	no shit god bless satoshi
Mar 25 11:47:18 <Bowjob>	you mean satoshi bless god
Mar 25 11:47:20 <Bugpowder>	I have sold 35%
Mar 25 11:47:25 <deadweasel>	lol Bowjob
Mar 25 11:47:29 <Bugpowder>	at $40-70
Mar 25 11:47:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold 5% to buy a truck
Mar 25 11:47:43 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold 2.5% to buy other goods
Mar 25 11:47:51 <Bowjob>	i spent like 10 btc on steam games
Mar 25 11:47:52 <smickles>	< deadweasel> so you can't lose at that point, if BTC goes to $10,000, you won't be too sad. << we've got to be near the top
Mar 25 11:47:54 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder, me too.  Paid off debts, got some nice things, still have some btc!
Mar 25 11:47:57 <deadweasel>	win win win
Mar 25 11:48:11 <TomServo>	I hate you guys.
Mar 25 11:48:12 <deadweasel>	smickles: what top?
Mar 25 11:48:15 *	TomServo pouts.
Mar 25 11:48:21 <Bowjob>	tom whats the matter
Mar 25 11:48:25 <smickles>	deadweasel: the top of this rally
Mar 25 11:48:28 <Bowjob>	well, i held to my btcs.
Mar 25 11:48:32 <Bowjob>	so its win win win win
Mar 25 11:48:40 <deadweasel>	damn skippy!
Mar 25 11:48:42 <deadweasel>	:)
Mar 25 11:48:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 25 11:48:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.39001, Best ask: 77.84999, Bid-ask spread: 0.45998, Last trade: 77.39001, 24 hour volume: 67656.49824912, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 72.99384
Mar 25 11:48:57 <TomServo>	I'm indecisive as hell.  And I'm sick of listening to my GF bitch that I didn't buy in a $2 when she told me to.
Mar 25 11:48:58 <smickles>	jeez, did ianblackwell ever sort out his short?
Mar 25 11:48:58 <Bowjob>	who got an avalon 3 pre order today
Mar 25 11:49:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i have so many steam games, i never use them lol
Mar 25 11:49:12 <Bowjob>	chang, u got any
Mar 25 11:49:14 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 25 11:49:22 <Chaang-Noi>	im opnly asic miner on asics
Mar 25 11:49:24 <Bowjob>	i used to trade tf2 items
Mar 25 11:49:27 <Bugpowder>	75BTC for the preorders?
Mar 25 11:49:30 <Bugpowder>	fucking insane.
Mar 25 11:49:30 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 25 11:49:37 <Bowjob>	people flocked them
Mar 25 11:49:39 <Bowjob>	idk what happened now
Mar 25 11:49:46 *	luke-jr__ is now known as Luke-Jr
Mar 25 11:49:59 <Chaang-Noi>	Luke-Jr
Mar 25 11:50:08 <Bowjob>	seems that its out of stock
Mar 25 11:50:11 <Chaang-Noi>	if you were in kc id buy you suck a good bbq dinner
Mar 25 11:50:20 <Bowjob>	http://store.avalon-asics.com/?product=avalon-asic-unit
Mar 25 11:51:59 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: does such a thing exist?
Mar 25 11:52:17 <Chaang-Noi>	?????????????
Mar 25 11:52:23 <Luke-Jr>	"good bbq" :p\
Mar 25 11:52:31 <Chaang-Noi>	if ou dont like bbq why go to kc?
Mar 25 11:52:36 <Luke-Jr>	BFL
Mar 25 11:52:36 <Bowjob>	i made a deal with my friend, id sell him a BTC for $38 as long as he watches this anime
Mar 25 11:52:40 <Bowjob>	im regretting this shit now
Mar 25 11:52:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.06235953 = 0.1247 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:52:46 <Luke-Jr>	lol
Mar 25 11:52:55 <Chaang-Noi>	id take you to golden koral best beef evar
Mar 25 11:53:34 <Luke-Jr>	lol
Mar 25 11:53:41 <Luke-Jr>	there's Golden Corals everywhere
Mar 25 11:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.739 = 11.824 BTC [-]
Mar 25 11:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.74485 = 2.2346 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.74489999 = 3.7245 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.755 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.78499 = 3.14 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.785 = 2.355 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.7854321 = 7.8543 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.789 = 7.89 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 26 @ 0.7891 = 20.5166 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.7894 = 3.947 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:12 <ThickAsThieves>	buy!!!
Mar 25 11:54:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.78998 = 15.7996 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.78999 = 11.8499 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.78999999 = 3.95 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.79 = 3.95 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.791 = 15.82 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:17 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 25 11:54:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.798 = 6.384 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:54:20 <Bowjob>	wow
Mar 25 11:54:39 <Bowjob>	coulda flipped some VTX by now
Mar 25 11:54:41 <Chaang-Noi>	Luke Jr i mean Golden Ox
Mar 25 11:54:41 <Bowjob>	tsk
Mar 25 11:54:47 <ThickAsThieves>	ive been flipping em
Mar 25 11:54:55 <ThickAsThieves>	still have 28 vtx
Mar 25 11:54:58 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 25 11:55:00 <Bowjob>	remind me next time I read a prospectus
Mar 25 11:55:04 <Bowjob>	and decide they werent..
Mar 25 11:55:09 <Chaang-Noi>	Luke-Jr i mean Golden Ox
Mar 25 11:55:13 <Bowjob>	if the demand is high, it doesnt mean shit
Mar 25 11:55:22 <Bowjob>	buy buy buy
Mar 25 11:55:22 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 11:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.798 = 7.182 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:57:04 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 80
Mar 25 11:57:07 <gribble>	There are currently 4442.5939 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 352404.14014 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Mar 25 11:57:23 <Bowjob>	its just a matter of time
Mar 25 11:57:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 79.9
Mar 25 11:57:56 <gribble>	There are currently 2636.7019 bitcoins offered at or under 79.9 USD, worth 207956.462558 USD in total. | Data vintage: 49.5111 seconds
Mar 25 11:58:15 <ThickAsThieves>	sill walls
Mar 25 11:58:17 <ThickAsThieves>	silly
Mar 25 11:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.06235953 = 0.1247 BTC [+]
Mar 25 11:59:26 <Bowjob>	someone sold an avalon for local pickup today
Mar 25 11:59:28 <Bowjob>	20k
Mar 25 11:59:35 <smickles>	;;asks 80.01
Mar 25 11:59:38 <gribble>	There are currently 4723.6273 bitcoins offered at or under 80.01 USD, worth 374591.701778 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0019 seconds
Mar 25 11:59:43 <smickles>	;;asks 80.00001
Mar 25 11:59:43 <gribble>	There are currently 4470.0773 bitcoins offered at or under 80.00001 USD, worth 354305.197778 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.9075 seconds
Mar 25 12:00:37 <ThickAsThieves>	wall is at 79.95
Mar 25 12:00:40 <ThickAsThieves>	1186btc
Mar 25 12:00:48 <Bowjob>	yawn,,
Mar 25 12:00:54 <ThickAsThieves>	then 893@80
Mar 25 12:00:56 <Bowjob>	i should get a fiat paying job
Mar 25 12:01:07 <Bowjob>	like 10.25 is the min wage here, that sucks tho
Mar 25 12:01:44 <Chaang-Noi>	if you hold btc 10 fiat seems like shit
Mar 25 12:01:49 <Chaang-Noi>	if not 10 is good
Mar 25 12:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.799 = 2.397 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:02:06 <thestringpuller>	;;tickee
Mar 25 12:02:07 <gribble>	Error: "tickee" is not a valid command.
Mar 25 12:02:09 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:02:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.31000, Best ask: 77.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.18999, Last trade: 77.31000, 24 hour volume: 67785.81682594, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.04756
Mar 25 12:02:18 <thestringpuller>	whoaaaa
Mar 25 12:02:59 <Bowjob>	well
Mar 25 12:03:09 <Bowjob>	i thought 10.25 was shit in the first place.
Mar 25 12:03:16 <Bowjob>	even before i bought btc
Mar 25 12:03:46 <Bowjob>	i live in vancouver remember. $100 meals arent uncommon here
Mar 25 12:04:09 <jcpham>	that's crazy because i just ate for free for three days
Mar 25 12:04:20 <jcpham>	i have a full time job and so does my wife
Mar 25 12:04:31 <jcpham>	and i do this bitcoiin thing
Mar 25 12:04:35 <unbalanced>	Bowjob do you trade BTC all day or are you a dev?
Mar 25 12:04:56 <Bowjob>	i just hold btc, waiting for an asic so i can be a miner
Mar 25 12:04:58 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 80
Mar 25 12:04:58 <gribble>	There are currently 4358.0447 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 345629.399311 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.4468 seconds
Mar 25 12:05:04 <unbalanced>	Ah
Mar 25 12:05:04 <Bowjob>	i have plenty of fiat still
Mar 25 12:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.06323144 = 0.1265 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:05:24 <Bowjob>	im gonna be looking for a job soon, not for money tho
Mar 25 12:05:29 <Bowjob>	to keep me from getting bored
Mar 25 12:05:31 <Bowjob>	hehehe
Mar 25 12:05:39 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Mar 25 12:05:56 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 0.24
Mar 25 12:05:56 <gribble>	0.24
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Mar 25 12:06:11 <Bowjob>	i wanna work at a nursery, but they are still not hiring
Mar 25 12:06:12 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 0.25 / 5
Mar 25 12:06:13 <gribble>	0.05
Mar 25 12:06:20 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 0.24 / 5
Mar 25 12:06:21 <gribble>	0.048
Mar 25 12:06:34 <jcpham>	a few more years and i can retire
Mar 25 12:06:38 <jcpham>	2 mortgages left
Mar 25 12:06:39 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 0.24 / 4
Mar 25 12:06:40 <gribble>	0.06
Mar 25 12:06:42 <jcpham>	then i'm set
Mar 25 12:07:09 <Bowjob>	well.. if btc really gets mainstream
Mar 25 12:07:12 <Bowjob>	i can retire at 21
Mar 25 12:07:31 <Bowjob>	ill be bored as hell though, i've been thinking of opening a food cart.
Mar 25 12:07:38 <Bowjob>	i love downtown vancouver, the food is delicious
Mar 25 12:08:13 <smickles>	;;asks 80
Mar 25 12:08:16 <gribble>	There are currently 4346.8642 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 344766.935198 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds
Mar 25 12:08:18 <Bowjob>	you get burberry, hermes and louis vuitton in one area
Mar 25 12:08:24 <Bowjob>	crazy expensive shit
Mar 25 12:08:41 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:08:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.41001, Best ask: 77.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18999, Last trade: 77.60000, 24 hour volume: 67940.36996472, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.05935
Mar 25 12:09:00 <smickles>	burberry and hermes sound like bad things that happen to you anus
Mar 25 12:09:13 <smickles>	80
Mar 25 12:09:18 <smickles>	*all time high*
Mar 25 12:09:19 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Mar 25 12:09:19 <assbot>	Have you got any tobacco?
Mar 25 12:09:23 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:09:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.31002, Best ask: 77.41000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09998, Last trade: 77.41000, 24 hour volume: 67943.37808993, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.06120
Mar 25 12:09:28 <Bowjob>	so suppose i work for 10.25 an hour
Mar 25 12:09:29 <smickles>	via bitcoinity.org
Mar 25 12:09:34 <Diablo-D3>	it needs to go to 1000
Mar 25 12:09:35 <Bowjob>	that is 0.13 BTC per hour
Mar 25 12:09:38 <Diablo-D3>	so I can start dmc 2.0 :<
Mar 25 12:09:52 <Bowjob>	my asic would make more than me in a day LOL
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Mar 25 12:10:32 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 75
Mar 25 12:10:35 <gribble>	There are currently 2331.6221 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 176991.637839 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0065 seconds
Mar 25 12:10:45 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 70
Mar 25 12:10:45 <gribble>	There are currently 7397.5795 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 539621.235992 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.8616 seconds
Mar 25 12:10:48 *	guruvan- is now known as guruvan
Mar 25 12:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.06342697 = 0.1269 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 12:14:01 <thestringpuller>	wow
Mar 25 12:14:07 <smickles>	oh, lol, that was on bitfloor
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Mar 25 12:15:43 <unbalanced>	Bowjob: baby nursery or tree nursery? Food cart would be cool. You could have a bitcoin IPO, all the cool kids are doin' it.
Mar 25 12:16:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01965 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:16:20 <Bowjob>	tree nursery
Mar 25 12:16:23 <Bowjob>	fuck babies
Mar 25 12:16:28 <Bowjob>	all they do is take a shit
Mar 25 12:16:33 <ThickAsThieves>	.lol
Mar 25 12:16:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.344 = 1.032 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:16:51 <Bowjob>	i used to work at tree nursery, chill jo
Mar 25 12:16:51 <smickles>	they bitch whey you don't feed them too
Mar 25 12:16:51 <Bowjob>	b
Mar 25 12:18:16 <unbalanced>	Don't worry, when they grow up one of them willl be changing your diaper.
Mar 25 12:18:41 <unbalanced>	It's the circle of life, man...
Mar 25 12:18:50 <deadweasel>	circle of shit
Mar 25 12:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.07780924 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:18:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06342697 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:19:35 <unbalanced>	Which is eventually dust in the wind. Kansas had it right.
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Mar 25 12:20:56 <unbalanced>	"Biiiitts in the wiiinddd... all we are is bits in the wind..." Oh all right, I'll shuttie.
Mar 25 12:22:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.0099 = 0.0198 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:23:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009899 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:23:02 <unbalanced>	VTX looks like a rocket today at .799 but it's so low-volume if you try to sell 20 you'll only get 0.65 each.
Mar 25 12:23:37 <unbalanced>	That's only up 0.02 from avg .63 for sell 20 last night.
Mar 25 12:24:03 <Chaang-Noi>	sell 1 million usd is 71
Mar 25 12:24:17 <ThickAsThieves>	post small ask walls
Mar 25 12:24:23 <ThickAsThieves>	on vtx instead
Mar 25 12:24:27 <unbalanced>	I want some but it'll crash if one person sells out in a big way.
Mar 25 12:24:35 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck no, im waitinf for $275
Mar 25 12:24:36 <ThickAsThieves>	buyers trickle thru the day
Mar 25 12:25:11 <Chaang-Noi>	ill sell 2.5% then, i dont need fiat for years
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Mar 25 12:25:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06397253 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:26:07 <unbalanced>	btw does assbot do the sell math on havelock?
Mar 25 12:26:53 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:26:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.30000, Best ask: 77.30001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 77.30000, 24 hour volume: 68474.97889488, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.20713
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Mar 25 12:27:14 <unbalanced>	!help
Mar 25 12:27:15 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 25 12:27:16 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
Mar 25 12:27:17 <assbot>	!last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
Mar 25 12:27:18 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 25 12:27:19 <assbot>	!rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
Mar 25 12:27:20 <assbot>	!exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
Mar 25 12:28:02 <Ixitachil>	!exchanges
Mar 25 12:28:19 <unbalanced>	!exchanges
Mar 25 12:28:23 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 78
Mar 25 12:28:23 <gribble>	There are currently 159.12113 bitcoins offered at or under 78.0 USD, worth 12377.2388344 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.0909 seconds
Mar 25 12:28:28 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 80
Mar 25 12:28:29 <gribble>	There are currently 4092.5737 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 325569.234681 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.9052 seconds
Mar 25 12:28:37 <Bowjob>	ughh
Mar 25 12:28:39 <Chaang-Noi>	;;aks 100
Mar 25 12:28:39 <gribble>	Error: "aks" is not a valid command.
Mar 25 12:28:41 <Bowjob>	i can only find retail jobs
Mar 25 12:28:48 <Bowjob>	i hate uniforms
Mar 25 12:28:55 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 100
Mar 25 12:28:55 <gribble>	There are currently 25390.783 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2333443.08551 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.5864 seconds
Mar 25 12:29:31 <ThickAsThieves>	should be 79.50 soon...
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Mar 25 12:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00063739 = 2.7408 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 12:29:57 <Chaang-Noi>	we have ath and killed the walls, im happy as fuck
Mar 25 12:29:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3504 @ 0.00063656 = 2.2305 BTC [-]
Mar 25 12:29:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3924 @ 0.00063583 = 2.495 BTC [-]
Mar 25 12:30:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063141 = 6.3141 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 12:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06397144 BTC [-]
Mar 25 12:33:01 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 78
Mar 25 12:33:04 <gribble>	There are currently 104.9359 bitcoins offered at or under 78.0 USD, worth 8173.67745538 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 25 12:33:09 <Chaang-Noi>	104!
Mar 25 12:33:22 <Chaang-Noi>	and its a monday?
Mar 25 12:33:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.344 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:34:11 <Bowjob>	chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang
Mar 25 12:34:14 <Bowjob>	u scared me
Mar 25 12:34:18 <Bowjob>	i thought 104 dollars
Mar 25 12:34:18 <Bowjob>	now
Mar 25 12:34:18 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 12:34:41 <deadweasel>	KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Mar 25 12:35:14 <deadweasel>	www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54
Mar 25 12:37:39 <Chaang-Noi>	selloff
Mar 25 12:37:46 <Chaang-Noi>	76
Mar 25 12:37:49 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:37:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.05001, Best ask: 76.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.44999, Last trade: 76.50000, 24 hour volume: 69393.78917534, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.30885
Mar 25 12:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.797 = 1.594 BTC [-]
Mar 25 12:38:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.797 BTC [-]
Mar 25 12:38:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06397144 BTC [-]
Mar 25 12:40:23 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:40:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.75000, Best ask: 75.80187, Bid-ask spread: 0.05187, Last trade: 75.75000, 24 hour volume: 69551.19685202, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.31525
Mar 25 12:40:27 <Bowjob>	wow
Mar 25 12:41:31 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:41:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.67405, Best ask: 75.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02595, Last trade: 75.70000, 24 hour volume: 69551.19685202, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.31525
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Mar 25 12:42:11 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 12:42:12 <gribble>	42.9828 seconds
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Mar 25 12:44:06 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:44:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.76875, Best ask: 75.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23125, Last trade: 74.76875, 24 hour volume: 69551.19685202, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.31525
Mar 25 12:44:10 <Bowjob>	sell off
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Mar 25 12:45:13 <ThickAsThieves>	12:43pm gox suggested bid = 76, lets see how long it freezes there,
Mar 25 12:45:53 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:45:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.20000, Best ask: 75.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 74.20000, 24 hour volume: 69551.19685202, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.31525
Mar 25 12:45:58 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 12:45:59 <gribble>	164.172555 seconds
Mar 25 12:46:01 <Bowjob>	oh
Mar 25 12:46:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.0099 = 0.0594 BTC [+]
Mar 25 12:46:12 <Chaang-Noi>	75:/
Mar 25 12:46:21 <Chaang-Noi>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:46:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.20000, Best ask: 75.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 74.20000, 24 hour volume: 69551.19685202, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.31525
Mar 25 12:46:25 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck
Mar 25 12:46:34 <smickles>	74 is better than 30
Mar 25 12:47:28 <Bowjob>	i just lost $600
Mar 25 12:47:32 <Bowjob>	on paper profit
Mar 25 12:48:00 <ThickAsThieves>	if you dont like the price, wait 10 minutes
Mar 25 12:48:08 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 25 12:48:36 <ThickAsThieves>	gos suggested price and last price still frozen after 5min
Mar 25 12:48:40 <ThickAsThieves>	gox*
Mar 25 12:48:56 <Bowjob>	could this be a bull trap?
Mar 25 12:49:05 <ThickAsThieves>	its a goxtrap
Mar 25 12:49:14 <deadweasel>	^lol
Mar 25 12:49:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 12:49:47 <gribble>	202.260145 seconds
Mar 25 12:49:57 <deadweasel>	:D
Mar 25 12:50:12 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:50:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.40240, Best ask: 74.76845, Bid-ask spread: 0.36605, Last trade: 74.76845, 24 hour volume: 69551.19685202, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.31525
Mar 25 12:50:16 <Bowjob>	still
Mar 25 12:50:16 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 12:50:21 <ThickAsThieves>	cmon this has got to be price manipulation by gox
Mar 25 12:50:25 *	DeaDTerra (~DeaDTerra@226.169.216.81.static.apv.siw.siwnet.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Mar 25 12:50:30 <Bowjob>	http://coinlab.com/
Mar 25 12:50:31 <Bowjob>	try here
Mar 25 12:50:37 <Bowjob>	i see it at 74.90
Mar 25 12:50:48 *	DeaDTerra is now known as Guest31731
Mar 25 12:50:52 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: are you still here
Mar 25 12:50:57 <ThickAsThieves>	still 76 suggested price at gox
Mar 25 12:51:25 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:51:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.36000, Best ask: 74.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54000, Last trade: 74.90000, 24 hour volume: 69551.19685202, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.31525
Mar 25 12:51:35 <Bowjob>	coinlab works
Mar 25 12:51:39 <Bowjob>	the price is 74.90
Mar 25 12:51:41 <Bowjob>	75
Mar 25 12:51:49 *	Guest31731 is now known as DeaDTerra1
Mar 25 12:51:49 <ThickAsThieves>	the 76 suggested price came in an instant while trading was brisk at 77
Mar 25 12:51:57 <ThickAsThieves>	then froze there
Mar 25 12:52:20 <DeaDTerra1>	Starcraft 2 tournament tonight, with a BTC prize pool :D Come join us and have some fun http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1az4y1/starcraft_hots_sitngo_tournaments_for_bitcoin/
Mar 25 12:52:20 <Bowjob>	come on bulls, beat the bears
Mar 25 12:52:46 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 75
Mar 25 12:52:49 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
Mar 25 12:52:56 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 76
Mar 25 12:52:56 <gribble>	There are currently 1020.0341 bitcoins offered at or under 76.0 USD, worth 77319.2920647 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.9433 seconds
Mar 25 12:53:23 <ThickAsThieves>	10min now at 76 suggested bid
Mar 25 12:53:46 <ThickAsThieves>	k it unfroze
Mar 25 12:53:51 <ThickAsThieves>	lets see if price pops
Mar 25 12:53:55 <ThickAsThieves>	up
Mar 25 12:55:24 <ThickAsThieves>	froze again, along with coinlab
Mar 25 12:55:40 <Bowjob>	"A more complex password is required. This can be done in several ways, such as joining the words of a phrase together or combining the first letters of each word.
Mar 25 12:55:46 <Bowjob>	fuck u apple and ur password shit
Mar 25 12:55:55 <Bowjob>	bitch ass nigga... i cant make an easy password
Mar 25 12:56:00 <Bowjob>	stupid tim cook
Mar 25 12:56:01 <ThickAsThieves>	and clicking your heels 3 times
Mar 25 12:57:11 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 12:57:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.80000, Best ask: 75.80187, Bid-ask spread: 0.00187, Last trade: 75.80187, 24 hour volume: 71695.91851673, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.39370
Mar 25 12:57:16 <Bowjob>	back to normal
Mar 25 12:58:01 <ThickAsThieves>	stuck at 76 again
Mar 25 12:58:20 <ThickAsThieves>	bleh i'm done gawking
Mar 25 12:58:21 <Bowjob>	coinlab works for me
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Mar 25 12:58:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean gox suggested price
Mar 25 12:58:39 <ThickAsThieves>	it freezes
Mar 25 12:58:49 <ThickAsThieves>	seems to be leading price
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Mar 25 12:58:52 <Bowjob>	u know what
Mar 25 12:58:53 <ThickAsThieves>	rather than following it
Mar 25 12:58:54 <Bowjob>	fuck working
Mar 25 12:58:55 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 13:00:01 <ThickAsThieves>	thats pretty much where i'm at
Mar 25 13:00:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i just looked at the clock saying i better get some work done today
Mar 25 13:00:19 <ThickAsThieves>	and was like wtf its 1-m
Mar 25 13:00:21 <ThickAsThieves>	1pm
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Mar 25 13:01:47 <Bugpowder>	Oh jeeze.  Compare this to BFL's factory pictures.
Mar 25 13:01:48 <Bugpowder>	http://imgur.com/a/KPBTl/noscript
Mar 25 13:02:11 <kakobrekla>	yet you still need gloves to handle it
Mar 25 13:02:38 <Chaang-Noi>	the machinine is called Sam?
Mar 25 13:02:42 <Garr255_Lappy>	Bugpowder, yeah but now Avalon costs 75btc each!
Mar 25 13:02:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean S(and)M
Mar 25 13:03:06 <Chaang-Noi>	hi garr!
Mar 25 13:03:13 <Bugpowder>	Not buying at those prices
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Mar 25 13:03:23 <Chaang-Noi>	wait to $1000 to buy more
Mar 25 13:03:26 <ThickAsThieves>	these are Avalon labs?
Mar 25 13:03:47 <Garr255_Lappy>	hi goat
Mar 25 13:03:54 <Bugpowder>	yes
Mar 25 13:04:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.818995 = 2.457 BTC [+]
Mar 25 13:04:10 <ThickAsThieves>	how old is that kid anyway?
Mar 25 13:04:28 <Garr255_Lappy>	I remember him vaguely being two years older than me
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Mar 25 13:04:31 <unbalanced>	Bowjob: see http://xkcd.com/936/ (and you already came up with a couple of sets of three memorable words above)
Mar 25 13:04:42 <Garr255_Lappy>	not sure where that came from, but if I'm correct he's 19 :P
Mar 25 13:06:15 <Chaang-Noi>	the3se are not bfl labs lol
Mar 25 13:06:29 <Bugpowder>	That's avalon
Mar 25 13:06:29 <Chaang-Noi>	these are the labs they paid to make their shit
Mar 25 13:06:39 <Bugpowder>	^^ exactly
Mar 25 13:06:46 <Bugpowder>	benefits to being in china
Mar 25 13:06:48 <Chaang-Noi>	no one in btc land owns the machines
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Mar 25 13:07:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i dnt care who took the photos
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Mar 25 13:08:02 <Garr255_Lappy>	yup
Mar 25 13:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	soo what's new
Mar 25 13:08:33 *	Garr255_Lappy secretly develops ASIC
Mar 25 13:08:49 <Bugpowder>	78
Mar 25 13:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 25 13:09:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.50001, Best ask: 76.27129, Bid-ask spread: 0.77128, Last trade: 77.00000, 24 hour volume: 72307.04792886, 24 hour low: 68.50000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.42654
Mar 25 13:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	ha. nice.
Mar 25 13:09:24 <Bugpowder>	broke thru at 15:02
Mar 25 13:09:37 <Bugpowder>	not a bad prediction
Mar 25 13:10:01 <kakobrekla>	dat gmt?
Mar 25 13:10:10 <Bugpowder>	yup
Mar 25 13:10:24 <kakobrekla>	last two then mp.
Mar 25 13:10:52 <Bugpowder>	so... $81 at this time tomorrow?
Mar 25 13:11:42 <Bugpowder>	or sooner
Mar 25 13:11:48 <Bugpowder>	that is the question
Mar 25 13:13:09 <smickles>	back to 77, eh?
Mar 25 13:13:21 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 25 13:13:29 <Bugpowder>	so... 40% haircut for cyprus?
Mar 25 13:13:33 <Bugpowder>	over 100k
Mar 25 13:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. 8 i mean 20 i mean 40%
Mar 25 13:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	1 day bank holiday i mean 3 i mean 2 weeks
Mar 25 13:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	won't happen again one off thing i mean one off thing each country i mean monthly from now on
Mar 25 13:14:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.065682 BTC [+]
Mar 25 13:15:36 <jurov>	and still... certain people freaked out about notion to convert all fiat income into btc
Mar 25 13:15:44 <jurov>	and convert back only as necessary
Mar 25 13:16:08 <jurov>	amirite, tiberiusiv?
Mar 25 13:16:33 <kakobrekla>	well the problem that im seeing now is if banks close its harder to liquidate coins
Mar 25 13:16:41 <kakobrekla>	you need go p2p cash
Mar 25 13:16:48 <kakobrekla>	which might not be as convinient
Mar 25 13:17:05 <jurov>	it's not convenient but always possible
Mar 25 13:17:28 <kakobrekla>	its possible but you should have some buffer in cash
Mar 25 13:18:16 <jurov>	that's my irl experience, converting couple hundred btc eveny 2wk is absolutely not a problem
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Mar 25 13:18:38 <jurov>	*coupe hundred euros i mean
Mar 25 13:18:56 <kakobrekla>	yes its not a problem
Mar 25 13:18:59 <kakobrekla>	until the banks are closed
Mar 25 13:19:02 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 25 13:19:07 <jurov>	i mean, in cash
Mar 25 13:19:09 <kakobrekla>	you cant get if off bitstamp
Mar 25 13:19:13 <kakobrekla>	a ok
Mar 25 13:19:23 <kakobrekla>	yes its doable
Mar 25 13:19:34 <kakobrekla>	just not as convinient - for me.
Mar 25 13:19:53 <jurov>	ofc, i prefer to do it via bank anytime possible
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Mar 25 13:20:18 <TomServo>	Anyone know the story on this: http://pastebin.com/Cxd64VtV ?
Mar 25 13:20:52 <jurov>	but the point is doing by localbitcoins isn't so big hassle
Mar 25 13:21:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06595317 BTC [+]
Mar 25 13:21:33 <deadweasel>	course at that point aren't supposed to abide by the FinCen guidlines, you would be  money transmitter..
Mar 25 13:21:46 <deadweasel>	lol, I accidentally a couple words
Mar 25 13:22:09 <Bugpowder>	deadweasel: even <$1000/day?
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Mar 25 13:22:20 <jurov>	haha, slovak financial office will wake up about it in next decade maybe
Mar 25 13:22:25 <deadweasel>	i'd have to re-read, I thought any amount into USD.
Mar 25 13:22:26 <Bugpowder>	I read it that if you keep sales to < $1000 day its ok
Mar 25 13:22:42 <Bugpowder>	but it seemed that there was some conflicting language
Mar 25 13:22:46 <Bugpowder>	about exceptions
Mar 25 13:22:51 <smickles>	deadweasel: yeah, but not everyone is 'merican
Mar 25 13:22:59 <deadweasel>	so, 10BTC per day  ;)    I'll go re-read that.
Mar 25 13:23:04 <deadweasel>	lucky smickles
Mar 25 13:23:13 <smickles>	not lucky smickles, lucky jurov
Mar 25 13:23:21 <deadweasel>	from what enlightened country do you hail from, jurov
Mar 25 13:23:22 <deadweasel>	?
Mar 25 13:23:23 <smickles>	and kakobrekla
Mar 25 13:23:37 <smickles>	and a good many others here
Mar 25 13:23:47 <deadweasel>	well, I'm holding out for revolution, I won't leave yet.
Mar 25 13:24:20 <deadweasel>	Although I've never lived more than a few hours drive from either canada or mexico
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Mar 25 13:24:28 <deadweasel>	i like options.
Mar 25 13:24:39 <deadweasel>	!= OIX
Mar 25 13:24:58 <smickles>	$vwap oix
Mar 25 13:25:00 <deadweasel>	anyway, i'll deal with being a money transmitter if I ever need to.
Mar 25 13:25:00 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 69.84225586 high: 71.09794195 low: 51.2906147 volume: 27746 btc: 6572.62564493 30 day: no data
Mar 25 13:26:55 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 25 13:28:58 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 25 13:28:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.60000, Best ask: 76.74999, Bid-ask spread: 0.14999, Last trade: 76.60000, 24 hour volume: 73428.60406774, 24 hour low: 69.20000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.54512
Mar 25 13:29:02 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 13:29:02 <gribble>	1.493887 seconds
Mar 25 13:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	btw Bugpowder seen http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/smpoe-market-cap-vs-sdice-market-cap/ ?
Mar 25 13:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo seems like trollish nonsense to me.
Mar 25 13:31:45 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: I suspect we will see a rotation out of S.MPOE this month.
Mar 25 13:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	possibly
Mar 25 13:31:58 <Bugpowder>	if my intuition about MPOE performance is correct
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Mar 25 13:33:04 <Bugpowder>	this BTC price is really tough for S.DICE to overcome though. But its good for MPOE
Mar 25 13:33:14 <Bugpowder>	or neutral
Mar 25 13:33:24 <mircea_popescu>	"close to 30 million usd notional trade this month"
Mar 25 13:33:29 <mircea_popescu>	sounds pretty good to me.
Mar 25 13:33:46 <mircea_popescu>	plenty of markets don't get 1mn a day
Mar 25 13:33:48 <Bugpowder>	yea.  Approaching 400,000 contracts right?
Mar 25 13:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 25 13:34:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06621708 BTC [+]
Mar 25 13:35:14 <mircea_popescu>	it's getting to where im starting to smell the offers tbh.
Mar 25 13:35:51 <ThickAsThieves>	smell the offers?
Mar 25 13:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	mpex happens to be the PERFECT way for a bank to develop it's own in house btc-fiat trading system
Mar 25 13:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	propped against mpex, guaranteed success.
Mar 25 13:36:27 <Bugpowder>	oh you...
Mar 25 13:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	one way to eat everyone's cake, seeing how coinbases of the world can't compete.
Mar 25 13:36:48 <Bugpowder>	propping the price with the ole buyout rumor...
Mar 25 13:36:59 <Bugpowder>	you should send a tip to Cramer
Mar 25 13:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	nah, there won't be a buyout
Mar 25 13:37:11 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i been sendin' tips.
Mar 25 13:37:55 <Bugpowder>	sheeeit
Mar 25 13:37:56 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 25 13:37:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.00000, Best ask: 77.01000, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 75.50000, 24 hour volume: 73639.35968273, 24 hour low: 69.25000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.57049
Mar 25 13:38:01 <Bugpowder>	lagged
Mar 25 13:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.98 BTC [+]
Mar 25 13:38:13 <Bugpowder>	73
Mar 25 13:38:16 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 13:38:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00312 BTC [+]
Mar 25 13:38:17 <gribble>	157.509317 seconds
Mar 25 13:38:20 <mircea_popescu>	lmap
Mar 25 13:38:25 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Mar 25 13:38:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1077 @ 0.00311 = 3.3495 BTC [-]
Mar 25 13:38:27 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.109438180923 seconds
Mar 25 13:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Mar 25 13:38:31 <Bugpowder>	72
Mar 25 13:38:37 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if this'll ever get old.
Mar 25 13:38:53 <Bugpowder>	71.8
Mar 25 13:38:56 <Bugpowder>	bottom
Mar 25 13:39:27 <Bugpowder>	couldn't even trigger the OH NOES cartoon on bitcoinity
Mar 25 13:39:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00311 BTC [-]
Mar 25 13:40:09 <Bugpowder>	oh shit!
Mar 25 13:40:22 <Bugpowder>	That selloff was from half the wall at 80 selling to market :)
Mar 25 13:40:27 <deadweasel>	so normal exchanges have high speed connections to hig profile brokerages.  These things don't break like this.  There is in opportunity to improve this.
Mar 25 13:40:37 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 80
Mar 25 13:40:40 <gribble>	There are currently 5535.7599 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 438703.38709 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0019 seconds
Mar 25 13:40:43 <Bugpowder>	YES.
Mar 25 13:40:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 70
Mar 25 13:40:50 <gribble>	There are currently 2614.6875 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 184818.944829 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.4289 seconds
Mar 25 13:41:05 <jurov>	deadweasel yes there is something like that already ;)
Mar 25 13:41:21 <deadweasel>	the answer feels like it's going to be obvious........
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Mar 25 13:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel yea.
Mar 25 13:41:44 <smickles>	deadweasel: bitfloor was doing that, but people lost confidence in it after a theft
Mar 25 13:42:00 <smickles>	oh, and mpex owns all
Mar 25 13:42:24 <deadweasel>	mircea_popescu: is that what you are doing with the OIX?
Mar 25 13:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	"that" ?
Mar 25 13:42:48 <deadweasel>	well, no lag at mpex, 2 minutes at gox.
Mar 25 13:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	i got better hardware.
Mar 25 13:43:50 <ThickAsThieves>	must not be enough incentive for gox to fix the problem
Mar 25 13:43:51 <Bugpowder>	its not a fair comparison ATM
Mar 25 13:44:10 <Bugpowder>	compare with the same order load
Mar 25 13:44:17 <deadweasel>	considering volume...
Mar 25 13:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06622534 BTC [+]
Mar 25 13:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you don't see the stat/cancel/bid cycle
Mar 25 13:44:44 <Bugpowder>	lag is non-linear with load
Mar 25 13:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	i think there's more load on mpex than mtgox atm.
Mar 25 13:44:57 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Mar 25 13:45:04 <jurov>	ddos still going?
Mar 25 13:45:09 <Bugpowder>	I dunno... lots of micro txns.
Mar 25 13:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	also http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128220157798.jpg
Mar 25 13:45:12 <Bugpowder>	on gox
Mar 25 13:45:19 <mircea_popescu>	jurov nope, subsided.
Mar 25 13:45:22 <deadweasel>	O.BTCUSD.C750T  -- if I bought one of those, what does that mean?
Mar 25 13:45:22 <Bugpowder>	god damn it.
Mar 25 13:45:32 <Bugpowder>	call struck at 75 expiring friday
Mar 25 13:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel it means you're long btc
Mar 25 13:45:46 <Bugpowder>	break even is about 80.
Mar 25 13:46:08 <Bugpowder>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 13:46:09 <gribble>	301.313038 seconds
Mar 25 13:46:54 <deadweasel>	so if I bough that, I could buy BTC at 75$ up til friday?
Mar 25 13:47:38 <mircea_popescu>	nominally.
Mar 25 13:47:40 <Bugpowder>	you could exercise it for (24vwap - $75) / 24vwap till midnight friday
Mar 25 13:47:53 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 25 13:47:54 <gribble>	73.42
Mar 25 13:48:04 <Bugpowder>	actaully 24hprc, not 24vwap
Mar 25 13:48:09 <ThickAsThieves>	gox is like imma let you finish, but...
Mar 25 13:48:16 <smickles>	right now, it's out of the money tho
Mar 25 13:48:29 <Bugpowder>	but the spot price is ITM
Mar 25 13:48:39 <Bugpowder>	so the option is potentially underpriced
Mar 25 13:49:01 <deadweasel>	spot price is ITM?
Mar 25 13:49:12 <Bugpowder>	depending if you believe 24hprc is going to go to the spot
Mar 25 13:49:16 <smickles>	in the money (if that's what you're asking)
Mar 25 13:49:20 <Bugpowder>	spot is $76
Mar 25 13:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	73 < 75 neh ?
Mar 25 13:49:30 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 25 13:49:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.95000, Best ask: 76.27129, Bid-ask spread: 0.32129, Last trade: 75.60270, 24 hour volume: 73639.35968273, 24 hour low: 69.25000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.57049
Mar 25 13:49:37 <mircea_popescu>	aok
Mar 25 13:49:52 <Bugpowder>	by spot I mean last trade.
Mar 25 13:50:06 <deadweasel>	so lets say 24hrprc is $80...  (80-75)/80 = .0625
Mar 25 13:50:10 <Bugpowder>	yes
Mar 25 13:50:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4314 @ 0.00062626 = 2.7017 BTC [-]
Mar 25 13:50:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.0006289 = 1.132 BTC [+]
Mar 25 13:50:52 <Bugpowder>	so current ask on the 750s is .66
Mar 25 13:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	what it went back up ?
Mar 25 13:50:54 <Bugpowder>	.066
Mar 25 13:51:19 <smickles>	$depth c750t
Mar 25 13:51:20 <mpexbot>	smickles: O.BTCUSD.C750T Bids: ['1 @ 0.06615541', '1000 @ 0.0398513']
Mar 25 13:51:22 <Bugpowder>	;;calc (81-75)/81
Mar 25 13:51:22 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.06621656', '5 @ 0.0869', '9 @ 0.08826052']
Mar 25 13:51:22 <gribble>	0.0740740740741
Mar 25 13:51:32 <Bugpowder>	;;calc (80.2-75)/80.2
Mar 25 13:51:33 <gribble>	0.0648379052369
Mar 25 13:51:56 <Bugpowder>	yah, you need 24vwap to hit 80.3 to make a profit from exercise
Mar 25 13:52:27 <Bugpowder>	though the MPOE bot always pays a time premium over the current 24hprc with its bids
Mar 25 13:52:47 <deadweasel>	ok, so you want your (24hvwap - 75) >=  price of option?
Mar 25 13:52:57 <Bugpowder>	so exercise only makes sense if you have >>1000 contracts and want to dump fast, or the bot is down (last 24 hrs of the month).
Mar 25 13:53:05 <deadweasel>	oops, divided by the 24hrvwap
Mar 25 13:53:20 <Bugpowder>	24hprc.... volume weighted across all exchanges
Mar 25 13:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.0006289 = 9.8108 BTC [+]
Mar 25 13:53:30 <Bugpowder>	from here : http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/
Mar 25 13:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/introducing-the-oix/
Mar 25 13:54:54 <deadweasel>	ok, i think I see.
Mar 25 13:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	see the notes, calculations explained in there.
Mar 25 13:54:57 <deadweasel>	oh, thx mircea_popescu
Mar 25 13:55:44 <topace>	!ticker h vtx
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Mar 25 13:55:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.63210000 / 0.76199 / 0.79900000 (338 shares, 257.55262083 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.41597608 / 0.79900000 (10987 shares, 4570.32919395 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.41597608 / 0.79900000 (10987 shares, 4570.32919395 BTC)
Mar 25 13:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	jurov the way i figure it, either attacker is defeated and depressed or else we see a new blast in a week or two.
Mar 25 13:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	the current one didn't work.
Mar 25 13:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Mar 25 13:57:43 <smickles>	ya know, i throw about 12 commands at mpex all at once
Mar 25 13:57:49 <smickles>	*BAM*
Mar 25 13:58:07 <smickles>	all the f-ing time. I can't be the only one
Mar 25 13:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	you're not
Mar 25 13:59:45 <Bugpowder>	i do too, occasionally.
Mar 25 13:59:53 <jborkl>	holy shit transactions are slow to get into blocks today
Mar 25 14:01:27 <kakobrekla>	oh and i was just about to bug mp one of these days to add multi op
Mar 25 14:01:31 <kakobrekla>	is there a manual for it
Mar 25 14:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	there's no real advantage to multiop
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Mar 25 14:03:13 <smickles>	kakobrekla: i just use threadding in my code
Mar 25 14:03:17 <kakobrekla>	can i do a few CANCEL|N in several lines and signcrypt that?
Mar 25 14:03:32 <kakobrekla>	that would be nice
Mar 25 14:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Mar 25 14:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Mar 25 14:03:49 <kakobrekla>	cause i do stuff manually
Mar 25 14:04:02 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 25 14:04:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.2906147 / 69.84313456 / 71.09885312 (27748 shares, 6,572.76 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 25 14:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, but it'd just need more code to decide if you've got lines or wtf.
Mar 25 14:04:10 <kakobrekla>	uh?
Mar 25 14:04:22 <kakobrekla>	its one exlode new line
Mar 25 14:04:26 <kakobrekla>	and then foreach commands
Mar 25 14:04:33 <kakobrekla>	explode*
Mar 25 14:04:42 <kakobrekla>	basic stuff
Mar 25 14:04:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 14:04:57 <gribble>	13.344597 seconds
Mar 25 14:04:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 25 14:05:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.20000, Best ask: 74.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 74.25000, 24 hour volume: 78120.01656022, 24 hour low: 69.51777, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.67017
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Mar 25 14:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49999999 BTC [+]
Mar 25 14:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5000001 BTC [+]
Mar 25 14:11:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00062546 = 6.067 BTC [-]
Mar 25 14:16:19 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 25 14:16:22 <gribble>	There are currently 36901808 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6991511.75172 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0205 seconds
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Mar 25 14:23:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.818995 BTC [+]
Mar 25 14:25:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.344 BTC [+]
Mar 25 14:29:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.202 = 0.404 BTC [-]
Mar 25 14:30:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 79.94
Mar 25 14:30:56 <gribble>	There are currently 6216.5875 bitcoins offered at or under 79.94 USD, worth 483397.146716 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Mar 25 14:31:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 31 @ 0.009821 = 0.3045 BTC [-]
Mar 25 14:31:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 74 @ 0.00982 = 0.7267 BTC [-]
Mar 25 14:33:22 <DeaDTerra1>	We are up and running tournament at sc2bt.com, Join us for a couple of games of starcraft with BTC prize pool :D
Mar 25 14:39:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 25 14:39:22 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 227989 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1834 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6675621.2732 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.30176
Mar 25 14:39:33 <ThickAsThieves>	:o
Mar 25 14:40:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 25 14:40:05 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6675621.2732 based on data since last change | 7300703.18663 based on data for last three days
Mar 25 14:41:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.332 BTC [-]
Mar 25 14:41:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.33002 = 1.9801 BTC [-]
Mar 25 14:50:41 <kakobrekla>	avalons stopped working
Mar 25 14:50:44 <kakobrekla>	diff sinking
Mar 25 14:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	whoopsie
Mar 25 14:51:29 <smickles>	it's early :P
Mar 25 14:51:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 53 @ 0.009899 = 0.5246 BTC [+]
Mar 25 14:51:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 64 @ 0.009899 = 0.6335 BTC [+]
Mar 25 14:51:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 455 @ 0.0099 = 4.5045 BTC [+]
Mar 25 14:52:53 <smickles>	"the price can not go up by 400% in only 10 weeks, price cannot go exponential."
Mar 25 14:53:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 25 14:53:06 <smickles>	this guy has a keen grasp on reality
Mar 25 14:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, too much excitement for one day. catch y'all tomorrow
Mar 25 14:53:18 <smickles>	c'ya
Mar 25 14:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4611 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 14:58:22 <kakobrekla>	yay finally got a -10 in otc!
Mar 25 14:58:44 <smickles>	;;getrating kakobrekla
Mar 25 14:58:44 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User kakobrekla, rated since Fri May 13 15:50:53 2011. Cumulative rating 89, from 55 total ratings. Received ratings: 54 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 57 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=kakobrekla
Mar 25 14:58:52 <smickles>	scammer~!
Mar 25 14:59:02 <deadweasel>	lol
Mar 25 14:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4611 = 1.3833 BTC [-]
Mar 25 14:59:28 <kakobrekla>	was trying to avoid that supa guy but eh i guess it was inevitable
Mar 25 14:59:29 <smickles>	what did you do to piss off supadupajenkins?
Mar 25 14:59:50 <kakobrekla>	dunno he gets banned all the time everywhere
Mar 25 15:00:00 <kakobrekla>	perhaps i did it a couple of times too
Mar 25 15:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.461 = 1.383 BTC [-]
Mar 25 15:00:08 <kakobrekla>	but im thinking
Mar 25 15:00:19 <kakobrekla>	he is behind recent spamming
Mar 25 15:00:24 <smickles>	lol, looking at his -10 list, it's like a who's who of -otc
Mar 25 15:00:28 <kakobrekla>	that was happening on the chans
Mar 25 15:02:51 <[\\\]>	he started with the highest rated people
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Mar 25 15:03:09 <[\\\]>	so congrats kakobrekla, the latest -10 is actually an accomplishment
Mar 25 15:03:22 <kakobrekla>	heh
Mar 25 15:03:31 <[\\\]>	;;getrating imsaguy
Mar 25 15:03:31 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User imsaguy, rated since Tue Aug  2 16:24:18 2011. Cumulative rating 310, from 135 total ratings. Received ratings: 126 positive, 9 negative. Sent ratings: 126 positive, 41 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=imsaguy
Mar 25 15:03:43 <[\\\]>	up to 9 negatives from morons
Mar 25 15:03:51 <kakobrekla>	i see you are a magnet for it
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Mar 25 15:04:15 <[\\\]>	I've sent 41
Mar 25 15:04:21 <[\\\]>	:-x
Mar 25 15:04:43 <[\\\]>	the best are the people who claim "you don't know me" as if thats a defense for a negative rating
Mar 25 15:04:48 <[\\\]>	if anything, its an affirmation
Mar 25 15:05:44 <jcpham>	;;getrating imsaguy
Mar 25 15:05:45 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User imsaguy, rated since Tue Aug  2 16:24:18 2011. Cumulative rating 310, from 135 total ratings. Received ratings: 126 positive, 9 negative. Sent ratings: 126 positive, 41 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=imsaguy
Mar 25 15:05:51 <jcpham>	;;rated imsaguy
Mar 25 15:05:52 <gribble>	You rated user imsaguy on Fri Nov 30 09:02:49 2012, giving him a rating of 7, and supplied these additional notes: He doesn't owe me money.
Mar 25 15:06:14 <[\\\]>	surprise surprise
Mar 25 15:06:20 <[\\\]>	hey jcpham, can I borrow 10 btc?
Mar 25 15:06:21 <jcpham>	;;rated supadupajenkins
Mar 25 15:06:21 <gribble>	You rated user supadupajenkins on Mon Sep 17 17:38:07 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: Rude. Agressive. Childish. Would never trade with this person..
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Mar 25 15:06:38 <jcpham>	[\\\] hey 7%/week fuckhead sure
Mar 25 15:06:52 <[\\\]>	ouch
Mar 25 15:06:56 <jcpham>	10btc is easy
Mar 25 15:07:00 <jcpham>	you need more?
Mar 25 15:07:05 <[\\\]>	10k
Mar 25 15:07:07 <[\\\]>	I typod
Mar 25 15:07:15 <jcpham>	oic
Mar 25 15:07:24 <jcpham>	nah sorry, i never got that high
Mar 25 15:07:29 <jcpham>	i got close to 2000btc once
Mar 25 15:07:34 <jcpham>	but it wasn't real
Mar 25 15:07:39 <[\\\]>	:-/
Mar 25 15:08:12 <jcpham>	supadupa failed to negrsate me
Mar 25 15:08:29 <jcpham>	i believe i was one of the first to give him a rating for no reason
Mar 25 15:08:30 <[\\\]>	;;later tell supa <jcpham> supadupa failed to negrsate me
Mar 25 15:08:31 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Mar 25 15:08:35 <[\\\]>	there you go
Mar 25 15:08:37 <[\\\]>	all set
Mar 25 15:08:45 <kakobrekla>	:D
Mar 25 15:08:47 <jcpham>	nice
Mar 25 15:09:06 <jcpham>	negative ratings from morons is important to me
Mar 25 15:09:06 <[\\\]>	I wonder at one point, does the spam get voided
Mar 25 15:09:14 <[\\\]>	I liked having a clean record
Mar 25 15:09:24 <[\\\]>	but I like rating people accurately better
Mar 25 15:09:28 <jcpham>	my cherry has yet to be popped
Mar 25 15:09:36 <[\\\]>	;;rate jcpham -99
Mar 25 15:09:37 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
Mar 25 15:09:40 <[\\\]>	damn i
Mar 25 15:09:41 <[\\\]>	t
Mar 25 15:09:48 <jcpham>	;;getrating jcpham
Mar 25 15:09:49 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask jcpham!~jcpham@unaffiliated/jcpham . User jcpham, rated since Fri Nov 11 09:35:04 2011. Cumulative rating 120, from 69 total ratings. Received ratings: 68 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 71 positive, 6 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jcpham
Mar 25 15:09:57 <[\\\]>	you got popped!
Mar 25 15:10:02 <jcpham>	wuuuuuut
Mar 25 15:10:15 <[\\\]>	supa did get you
Mar 25 15:10:21 <[\\\]>	21929	Supa	-90	jcpham	2013-03-25 08:07:28	-10	had
Mar 25 15:10:25 <jcpham>	he just did it because of you fuckface
Mar 25 15:10:29 <jcpham>	look at the time
Mar 25 15:10:33 <[\\\]>	no he did't
Mar 25 15:10:35 <jcpham>	oh wait
Mar 25 15:10:40 <[\\\]>	that was a bunch of hours ago
Mar 25 15:10:43 <jcpham>	bleh
Mar 25 15:10:43 <[\\\]>	fuckface
Mar 25 15:10:51 <[\\\]>	thought you didn't care
Mar 25 15:10:51 <jcpham>	that's a term of love
Mar 25 15:10:53 <[\\\]>	;-)
Mar 25 15:10:59 <jcpham>	it means i care
Mar 25 15:11:06 <[\\\]>	I'm sure
Mar 25 15:11:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00062546 = 10.8205 BTC [-]
Mar 25 15:12:06 <jcpham>	;;rate Supa -10 reciprocal negrate fucktwat. SupaDupa makes shitty music ion soundcloud if you are interested. Loves the ganja too.
Mar 25 15:12:07 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user Supa has been recorded.
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Mar 25 15:12:38 <kakobrekla>	kinda old
Mar 25 15:12:41 <kakobrekla>	but still lolz
Mar 25 15:12:41 <kakobrekla>	Quote from: OgNasty on March 14, 2013, 06:28:56 AM
Mar 25 15:12:42 <kakobrekla>	We spent a total of BTC177.86 which at the time was worth $2,198.00. We received a BTC38 refund which is currently worth $1,818.30.
Mar 25 15:12:53 <kakobrekla>	i can do that
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Mar 25 15:25:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06760104 BTC [+]
Mar 25 15:26:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009994 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 15:27:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00446 BTC [+]
Mar 25 15:28:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00159 BTC [+]
Mar 25 15:29:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000711 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 15:31:02 <unbalanced>	Virtex is only barely online at the moment... just crawling. Trading volume or DDOS I wonder?
Mar 25 15:31:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06767224 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 15:37:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.06767224 BTC [+]
Mar 25 15:37:17 <dub>	jcpham and friends
Mar 25 15:37:40 <jcpham>	i make friends
Mar 25 15:39:46 <tiberiusiv>	mpex stock has plumetted since missing out on the cavirtex ipo
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Mar 25 15:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00449998 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Mar 25 15:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9100 @ 0.00449999 = 40.9499 BTC [+]
Mar 25 15:49:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 23000 @ 0.0045 = 103.5 BTC [+]
Mar 25 15:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.78 = 2.34 BTC [+]
Mar 25 15:51:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 72 @ 0.0045 = 0.324 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 15:53:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 15:57:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 9 @ 0.0047 = 0.0423 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 16:12:12 <kakobrekla>	coinbase on a good way to selfdestruction
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Mar 25 16:16:53 <dub>	I agree 1000%
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Mar 25 16:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.800001 BTC [-]
Mar 25 16:18:07 <tiberiusiv>	what happend to coinbase kako?
Mar 25 16:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.8 = 5.4 BTC [-]
Mar 25 16:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.8 = 10.8 BTC [-]
Mar 25 16:20:25 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Mar 25 16:20:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.00000, Best ask: 75.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.49999, Last trade: 75.00100, 24 hour volume: 78023.94769659, 24 hour low: 69.51777, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.97657
Mar 25 16:20:40 <kakobrekla>	tiberiusiv now they are sending me spam per definition
Mar 25 16:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.78999999 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 16:21:21 <kakobrekla>	while my reply to them to fuck off when i got their previous spam is still unanwered
Mar 25 16:21:35 <kakobrekla>	unanswered*
Mar 25 16:21:54 <kakobrekla>	but thats just one thing.
Mar 25 16:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.795 = 1.59 BTC [+]
Mar 25 16:22:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.795 = 6.36 BTC [+]
Mar 25 16:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.797 = 1.594 BTC [+]
Mar 25 16:23:47 <benkay>	;;ticker
Mar 25 16:23:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.74999, Best ask: 75.92999, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 75.93000, 24 hour volume: 77954.71450988, 24 hour low: 69.51777, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 73.97864
Mar 25 16:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.79699999 = 1.594 BTC [-]
Mar 25 16:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.797 = 1.594 BTC [+]
Mar 25 16:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.798 = 3.99 BTC [+]
Mar 25 16:35:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.09 = 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 25 16:36:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 16:42:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 16:54:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8189 BTC [-]
Mar 25 16:55:28 <dub>	unconfirmed tx seem to be climbing
Mar 25 16:57:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Mar 25 16:57:39 <gribble>	Time since last block: 10 minutes and 56 seconds
Mar 25 16:57:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 25 16:57:50 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6640343.82925 based on data since last change | 7237397.0326 based on data for last three days
Mar 25 17:01:13 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 25 17:01:14 <gribble>	51808.096467526178
Mar 25 17:03:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4165 @ 0.0006289 = 2.6194 BTC [+]
Mar 25 17:03:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17685 @ 0.00063719 = 11.2687 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 17:22:28 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 25 17:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 51.2906147 / 69.84446996 / 71.1002375 (27751 shares, 6,572.96 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 25 17:22:55 <thestringpuller>	why isnt the options index updating for today's trades
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Mar 25 17:31:35 <OneMiner>	Anybody know what a share of ASICMINER is going for?
Mar 25 17:31:59 <ThickAsThieves>	.72-.89
Mar 25 17:31:59 <benkay>	!ticker ASICMINER
Mar 25 17:32:00 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Mar 25 17:32:02 <ThickAsThieves>	roughly
Mar 25 17:32:10 <OneMiner>	ty ThickAsThieves
Mar 25 17:32:10 <benkay>	i obviously have no idea
Mar 25 17:32:26 <OneMiner>	I just need a ballpark. It'll do.
Mar 25 17:32:38 <ThickAsThieves>	depends where you ghet them pretty much
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Mar 25 17:39:47 <jborkl_>	I have had a unconfired transaction for 5 hours
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Mar 25 17:42:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00063902 BTC [+]
Mar 25 17:42:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2 @ 0.00063902 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
Mar 25 17:42:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3 @ 0.00063902 = 0.0019 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 17:44:02 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/9951299/Japan-breaks-Chinas-stranglehold-on-rare-metals-with-sea-mud-bonanza.html
Mar 25 17:44:17 <taub>	iceberg order at 75
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Mar 25 17:45:44 <Bugpowder>	iceberg?
Mar 25 17:46:36 <ThickAsThieves>	wall?
Mar 25 17:47:07 <ThickAsThieves>	also, http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/24/net-us-china-cybersecurity-university-idUSBRE92N01120130324
Mar 25 17:48:21 <Bugpowder>	THat iceberg is not gonna sink a titanic.
Mar 25 17:48:42 <thestringpuller>	Mr  Powda
Mar 25 17:48:45 <taub>	http://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/icebergorder.asp
Mar 25 17:48:49 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowda
Mar 25 17:49:16 <ThickAsThieves>	thx for the link
Mar 25 17:50:10 <taub>	initiallyi t was just like 3 ordres of 3, 10 and 2 btc
Mar 25 17:50:27 <taub>	they get filled and instantly new ones popped up
Mar 25 17:50:34 <Bugpowder>	good
Mar 25 17:50:45 <Bugpowder>	this is how I would do it too
Mar 25 17:50:53 <Bugpowder>	in theory
Mar 25 17:51:01 <Bugpowder>	http://xkcd.aubronwood.com
Mar 25 17:51:38 <jurov>	kakobrekla when it will be paid out? http://bitbet.us/bet/39/network-difficulty-under-6-million/
Mar 25 17:52:01 <jurov>	looks there are few other bets waiting to be closed too
Mar 25 17:52:05 <kakobrekla>	bug mp
Mar 25 17:52:35 <jurov>	um, thought so :/
Mar 25 17:56:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 300 @ 0.06798613 = 20.3958 BTC [+]
Mar 25 17:57:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 81
Mar 25 17:57:15 <gribble>	There are currently 10366.251 bitcoins offered at or under 81.0 USD, worth 814334.087861 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0027 seconds
Mar 25 17:57:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 71
Mar 25 17:57:46 <gribble>	There are currently 5437.6326 bitcoins demanded at or over 71.0 USD, worth 392977.788844 USD in total. | Data vintage: 30.7977 seconds
Mar 25 17:59:05 <Bugpowder>	bye bye iceburg
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Mar 25 17:59:53 <taub>	yea :o
Mar 25 17:59:59 <taub>	someone pulled the oerders tho
Mar 25 18:00:01 <taub>	didnt get filled
Mar 25 18:00:03 <taub>	so watch out
Mar 25 18:01:32 <Bugpowder>	yeah, bullish
Mar 25 18:01:38 <Bugpowder>	they will move the orders up
Mar 25 18:01:43 <taub>	feels like two big players colliding
Mar 25 18:01:45 <Bugpowder>	or buy to market
Mar 25 18:01:48 <taub>	or just one guy playing a lil game
Mar 25 18:01:55 <Bugpowder>	looks more like 2 small players colliding
Mar 25 18:01:58 <taub>	tense :)
Mar 25 18:02:00 <taub>	oh
Mar 25 18:02:04 <Bugpowder>	seriously
Mar 25 18:02:08 <taub>	well big for me, yea i guess 100 btc isnt that mouch
Mar 25 18:02:12 <taub>	10000
Mar 25 18:02:18 <Bugpowder>	the big players come in around 14:30-15:30
Mar 25 18:02:21 <thestringpuller>	yea this isnt that much btc
Mar 25 18:02:25 <thestringpuller>	lol
Mar 25 18:02:27 <Bugpowder>	buy 10000-20000 BTC
Mar 25 18:02:31 <thestringpuller>	yup
Mar 25 18:02:32 <thestringpuller>	lol
Mar 25 18:02:47 <thestringpuller>	Preach it Bugpowder!
Mar 25 18:02:59 <Bugpowder>	four out of the last five business days it has happened between 14:30 and 15:30
Mar 25 18:03:04 <Bugpowder>	did not happen on friday
Mar 25 18:03:11 <Bugpowder>	this is why I bought calls
Mar 25 18:03:12 <taub>	yea i wonder what the big traders account s look like
Mar 25 18:03:22 <Bugpowder>	like yours, but with more zeros
Mar 25 18:03:30 <taub>	probably early adoptyers that have shit ton of btc still and also lots of market depth/trading experience
Mar 25 18:03:33 <taub>	:)
Mar 25 18:03:37 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder: Those giant asks walls... are you saying they are removed -- their owners then buying BTC?
Mar 25 18:03:42 <Bugpowder>	and the slider is reading 0.33%    57%    0.30%
Mar 25 18:04:02 <Bugpowder>	typically yes
Mar 25 18:04:15 <Bugpowder>	particularly if the wall is near the current spot price
Mar 25 18:04:22 <taub>	sweet the little mini range got broken
Mar 25 18:04:33 <deadweasel>	i think that's the most interesting thing I've ever learned in here.  thx bug
Mar 25 18:04:43 <Bugpowder>	and they aren't getting action, I would bet that upon taking them down they then raise the bid or buy to market
Mar 25 18:04:57 <Bugpowder>	doesn't look like its happening in this case.
Mar 25 18:04:57 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: do you have an up to date OIX?
Mar 25 18:05:30 <Bugpowder>	But for example, this morning, there was a single ask order for 5000 BTC @ 80.0
Mar 25 18:05:48 <Bugpowder>	the wall disappeared and 10 seconds later, the price dropped from 77 to 72
Mar 25 18:06:06 <Bugpowder>	as the ask wall got impatient and sold to market.
Mar 25 18:06:13 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: I don't
Mar 25 18:06:28 <thestringpuller>	mircea why yo stuff all hacked up
Mar 25 18:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 8 @ 0.08235313 = 0.6588 BTC [+]
Mar 25 18:06:58 <deadweasel>	it's mpex.beta
Mar 25 18:07:12 <dub>	;;market buy 10000
Mar 25 18:07:15 <gribble>	A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 784264.4994 USD and would take the last price up to 80.0340 USD, resulting in an average price of 78.4264 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 25 18:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 5 @ 0.10164667 = 0.5082 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 18:07:28 <Bugpowder>	in any event, there are multiple possible explaintions for market moves, but that is a signal I use.
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Mar 25 18:07:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 10 @ 0.06833851 = 0.6834 BTC [+]
Mar 25 18:09:25 <Bugpowder>	now a more siginificant wall at 74 appears.
Mar 25 18:09:56 <taub>	bull still there, just pretending he was gone
Mar 25 18:10:57 <deadweasel>	i see that guy.
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Mar 25 18:11:12 <deadweasel>	and sell at 77
Mar 25 18:12:46 <Bugpowder>	on bitcoinity you can also see the shift in orders if you pay attention to the bars on the lower plot
Mar 25 18:14:17 <smickles>	under 50 a week ago, under 30 a month ago
Mar 25 18:15:17 <Bugpowder>	under 100 three days from now
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Mar 25 18:18:00 <jurov>	can i see future shift in orders somewhere?
Mar 25 18:20:14 <Bugpowder>	that requires integration with Silk Road.
Mar 25 18:22:27 <taub>	Bugpowder> as the ask wall got impatient and sold to market.
Mar 25 18:22:34 <taub>	yea if it's just one big order
Mar 25 18:23:06 <taub>	if you assume orders arrive at random just looking at the thickness of the depth can be really helpful
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Mar 25 18:24:21 <Bugpowder>	as general rule, when a 20000BTC ask wall falls, buy calls.
Mar 25 18:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 300 @ 0.06825887 = 20.4777 BTC [-]
Mar 25 18:25:28 <smickles>	heh, Bugpowder you've got an army now?
Mar 25 18:26:00 <smickles>	"BUY CALLS", he says. Buy calls, we do.
Mar 25 18:28:08 <Bugpowder>	buy when it falls
Mar 25 18:28:10 <Bugpowder>	not now
Mar 25 18:28:22 <Bugpowder>	it fell hours ago
Mar 25 18:28:25 <Bugpowder>	vwap has caught up
Mar 25 18:28:34 <Bugpowder>	the options are no longer mispriced.
Mar 25 18:29:05 <Bugpowder>	I paid .058 for those same calls
Mar 25 18:29:26 <Bugpowder>	when the spot price was also 75.5
Mar 25 18:29:47 <Bugpowder>	maybe even higher.... spot was probably 76.5 or 77 when I bought them
Mar 25 18:30:16 <Bugpowder>	;;calc .068/.058
Mar 25 18:30:16 <gribble>	1.1724137931
Mar 25 18:30:31 <Bugpowder>	17% is quite an edge.
Mar 25 18:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.461 = 4.61 BTC [-]
Mar 25 18:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.46015 = 9.203 BTC [-]
Mar 25 18:31:37 <smickles>	I got lucky and bought some fairly low, .06ish iirc, and just saw that I sold some of those at .08~
Mar 25 18:32:07 <Diablo-D3>	man, fuck sdice
Mar 25 18:32:12 <smickles>	mpoebot must have been on it's off phase
Mar 25 18:32:22 <smickles>	Diablo-D3: were you gambling?
Mar 25 18:32:57 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: no
Mar 25 18:33:06 <Diablo-D3>	in fact I ended up systematically winning
Mar 25 18:33:14 <smickles>	what's upsetting you then?
Mar 25 18:33:37 <Diablo-D3>	it doesnt make any sense
Mar 25 18:33:47 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, why is he giving all the money away
Mar 25 18:33:48 <smickles>	i don't follow
Mar 25 18:33:52 <Diablo-D3>	he'll need that for his legal fund
Mar 25 18:34:05 <Diablo-D3>	I dont care if hes not even american, that hasnt stopped the government before
Mar 25 18:34:24 <smickles>	i think he is 'merican
Mar 25 18:34:29 <Diablo-D3>	and the "oh bitcoins is just make believe money"  defense wont save his ass
Mar 25 18:34:39 <Diablo-D3>	I thought vorhees was euro?
Mar 25 18:34:51 <Bugpowder>	he was living in New York till recently
Mar 25 18:35:10 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Mar 25 18:35:10 <Bugpowder>	I heard on here he moved out of US, but haven't actually confirmed that
Mar 25 18:35:11 <Diablo-D3>	also, btw
Mar 25 18:35:13 <Diablo-D3>	you shareholders?
Mar 25 18:35:17 <Diablo-D3>	you'll go to jail too
Mar 25 18:35:21 <Diablo-D3>	lol.
Mar 25 18:36:29 <smickles>	iirc, he's part of the freestate movement
Mar 25 18:36:38 <smickles>	so he may have moved to new hampsire
Mar 25 18:36:38 <Diablo-D3>	lol, he'll get EXTRA jail time for that
Mar 25 18:36:50 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, ever see how federal sham cases work?
Mar 25 18:37:07 <Diablo-D3>	belong to a strange non-mainstream cultish religion? extra jailtime
Mar 25 18:37:18 <Diablo-D3>	belong to anything but the two parties, or support a strange movement? extra jailtime
Mar 25 18:37:23 <Diablo-D3>	black or brown? extra jailtime and a beating
Mar 25 18:37:41 <Bugpowder>	why so negative tonight?
Mar 25 18:37:44 <Diablo-D3>	don't owe anyone money and have led a good Christian life? extra jailtime and they also take your shit
Mar 25 18:37:54 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: there is a difference between negative and realistic.
Mar 25 18:38:07 <Diablo-D3>	if you think I'm being negative, you're just commenting on the true state of the world
Mar 25 18:38:16 <TomServo>	And then there's just trolling...
Mar 25 18:38:23 <taub>	iceberg or not at some point this shits gotta melt
Mar 25 18:38:31 <TomServo>	Mr. PoE servers no purpose :P
Mar 25 18:38:38 <TomServo>	serves*
Mar 25 18:38:40 <Bugpowder>	taub you think price is going down?
Mar 25 18:38:49 <taub>	well just a couple bucks
Mar 25 18:39:12 <Bugpowder>	would you mind creating some calls and selling them to me
Mar 25 18:39:12 <taub>	76 to 73.4 was my trade idea
Mar 25 18:39:19 <taub>	no
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Mar 25 18:39:57 <Diablo-D3>	TomServo: dude, I am not going to buy into cisco's bullshit
Mar 25 18:40:05 <Bugpowder>	are you daytrading the btcusd?
Mar 25 18:40:19 <Diablo-D3>	can I power a grill on poe? what about track lighting?
Mar 25 18:40:37 <taub>	yea Bugpowder
Mar 25 18:40:44 <TomServo>	Diablo-D3: Haha - it's got nothing to do with cisco. But I'm not trying to argue with you about it.
Mar 25 18:40:51 <Diablo-D3>	man, now I want a snmp enabled gas grill
Mar 25 18:41:07 <taub>	well just shorting the dips, so i can accumilate more coins
Mar 25 18:41:09 <taub>	that's the plan anyway
Mar 25 18:41:20 <taub>	k
Mar 25 18:41:20 <Diablo-D3>	I could, like, add a robot arm and have it flip steaks for me
Mar 25 18:41:28 <Bugpowder>	that's a tough game.  good luck
Mar 25 18:41:30 <smickles>	Bugpowder: what would you buy c750t at?
Mar 25 18:41:47 <Bugpowder>	0.058 ;-)
Mar 25 18:42:06 <Diablo-D3>	TomServo: Im not trolling if I call the US government a wee bit corrupt
Mar 25 18:42:29 <Diablo-D3>	and not even like corrupt corrupt, its mostly self serving bullshit to fill quotas that don't reflect any real world measurable result
Mar 25 18:42:54 <TomServo>	Diablo-D3: and I'm not disagreeing with that - but the tone of your conversation has sounded trollish all day.
Mar 25 18:43:04 <TomServo>	That's all I was commenting on.
Mar 25 18:43:41 <Namworld>	What the...
Mar 25 18:44:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.818895 = 8.189 BTC [-]
Mar 25 18:45:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1265 BTC [-]
Mar 25 18:45:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1265 = 0.253 BTC [-]
Mar 25 18:45:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.126 BTC [-]
Mar 25 18:45:40 <Bugpowder>	ouch
Mar 25 18:46:12 <Diablo-D3>	ha ha thud
Mar 25 18:46:21 <Namworld>	lol
Mar 25 18:46:26 <Namworld>	Someone is walling
Mar 25 18:46:35 <FabianB>	topace: can you introduce a small network fee to withdrawals on havelock? looks like transactions take forever again without fee
Mar 25 18:46:36 <dub>	wallers gonna wall
Mar 25 18:47:08 <Namworld>	But are people gonna take it? Start of the week. Money around. I've seen bigger walls get bought in one shot
Mar 25 18:47:17 <Bugpowder>	oh my
Mar 25 18:47:54 <Bugpowder>	taub, looks like its your lucky day
Mar 25 18:48:04 <Bugpowder>	Namworld: I doubt it will get bought tonight.
Mar 25 18:48:09 <Bugpowder>	but tomorrow yes.
Mar 25 18:48:22 <Namworld>	tomorrow?
Mar 25 18:48:26 <Namworld>	Why tomorrow?
Mar 25 18:48:41 <Bugpowder>	more money tomorrow
Mar 25 18:48:51 <Bugpowder>	15:00
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Mar 25 18:48:59 <Namworld>	right
Mar 25 18:49:10 <Namworld>	another wave of purchases possibly.
Mar 25 18:49:13 <dub>	schools out, buy btc?
Mar 25 18:49:44 <Bugpowder>	A wall like that is probably designed to intimidate though
Mar 25 18:49:52 <Bugpowder>	rather than actually sell that many coins
Mar 25 18:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.79399999 = 8.734 BTC [-]
Mar 25 18:50:09 <Bugpowder>	who knows though
Mar 25 18:50:19 <Bugpowder>	Calls looking less attractive
Mar 25 18:50:42 <Namworld>	yeah, that's the problem... walls to intimidate are obvious... and tend to get bought
Mar 25 18:50:53 <Bugpowder>	fuck that is a pretty big wall
Mar 25 18:50:54 <Namworld>	Trades should have a bot to make small steps with the walls
Mar 25 18:51:03 <Namworld>	It's 12k BTC...
Mar 25 18:51:25 <Bugpowder>	million bucks
Mar 25 18:51:33 <Diablo-D3>	[06:46:36] <dub> wallers gonna wall
Mar 25 18:51:36 <Diablo-D3>	wall all the walls \o/
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Mar 25 18:51:45 <Bugpowder>	it will take till tomorrow to kill, methinks.
Mar 25 18:52:05 <Bugpowder>	I gotta stop looking at this.  Its not as fun with ask walls getting thrown up
Mar 25 18:52:12 <Namworld>	If someone with money was waiting for such a wall... it's going to go fast.
Mar 25 18:52:35 <Namworld>	Would be fun to break 100
Mar 25 18:52:57 <Namworld>	But I also want to see the crash I've been waiting for for months. It's just not happening =/
Mar 25 18:53:15 <Bugpowder>	Crash on friday please
Mar 25 18:53:23 <Bugpowder>	or Thursday
Mar 25 18:53:29 <Namworld>	I keep seeing walls getting bought up
Mar 25 18:53:31 <Bugpowder>	after touching 96
Mar 25 18:54:02 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 25 18:54:05 <gribble>	There are currently 36550933 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8661934.56645 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0172 seconds
Mar 25 18:54:11 <Bugpowder>	holy shit!
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Mar 25 18:54:17 <Bugpowder>	we are up to 8.6MM
Mar 25 18:54:29 <Bugpowder>	that is like up 1.6MM from this morning.
Mar 25 18:54:49 <Namworld>	haha. Lots of money sitting around
Mar 25 18:55:24 <Bugpowder>	yeah and that's just the existing funded bids.  I have tons of money sitting in gox without a bid
Mar 25 18:56:00 <Bugpowder>	in any event thats the most bid funds I have seen yet
Mar 25 18:56:07 <Bugpowder>	though I haven't been looking for very long
Mar 25 18:56:07 <smickles>	;;asks 150
Mar 25 18:56:10 <gribble>	There are currently 51169.807 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 4575609.19411 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0039 seconds
Mar 25 18:56:35 <taub>	lmao 1000 at 74
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Mar 25 18:57:06 <Namworld>	so?
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Mar 25 18:57:20 <Bugpowder>	later
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Mar 25 18:57:35 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LrObZ_HZZU
Mar 25 18:57:35 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Mar 25 18:57:36 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 25 18:57:36 <Diablo-D3>	HAHAHAHAH
Mar 25 18:57:42 <Diablo-D3>	okay guys
Mar 25 18:57:44 <Diablo-D3>	watch that video
Mar 25 18:57:46 <Diablo-D3>	and pay close attention
Mar 25 18:58:17 <dub>	This video does not exist
Mar 25 18:58:43 <dub>	Sorry about that.
Mar 25 18:58:45 <Diablo-D3>	fucking urls
Mar 25 18:58:45 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LrObZ_HZZUc
Mar 25 19:02:19 <taub>	yea i konw that from my old conspiracy theory videos
Mar 25 19:02:31 <dub>	you owe me 4 minutes
Mar 25 19:02:32 <taub>	london = financial, washington = military, vatican = religion
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Mar 25 19:03:50 <taub>	city of london is prolly fucking swamped with masons...
Mar 25 19:04:06 <taub>	The Right Honourable, The Lord Mayor of London
Mar 25 19:04:12 <Diablo-D3>	dub: you missed the bitcoins?
Mar 25 19:04:13 <taub>	sry ot rant
Mar 25 19:04:38 <dub>	no I didn;t
Mar 25 19:06:01 <dub>	dude sounds a bit like evoorhees
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Mar 25 19:10:13 <Diablo-D3>	dub: so basically
Mar 25 19:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.725 = 1.45 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.7009 = 3.5045 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7005 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6800001 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.6333 = 5.6997 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.63000003 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.6222 = 4.3554 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.6200001 = 1.24 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.62 = 6.2 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.55851667 = 3.3511 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.55000001 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.54 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.52111 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:13:28 <ThickAsThieves>	ouch
Mar 25 19:13:38 <pgp>	yikes
Mar 25 19:13:47 <ThickAsThieves>	party's over!
Mar 25 19:13:48 <pgp>	33% in one go
Mar 25 19:13:53 <dub>	depth wat
Mar 25 19:14:04 <Diablo-D3>	the city of london is ran by masons who are manipulating bitcoin to generate welath
Mar 25 19:14:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i like JUST finishing selling my vtx too
Mar 25 19:14:17 <ThickAsThieves>	thankfully
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Mar 25 19:14:35 <dub>	I don't understand why 'masons' is an instant conspiracy voodoo thingy
Mar 25 19:14:52 <dub>	they are the least secret secret society
Mar 25 19:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.8 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:15:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.62 = 3.24 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:15:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.5 = 3 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:15:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 34 @ 1.41 = 47.94 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:15:56 <ThickAsThieves>	someone needs some btc i guess
Mar 25 19:20:31 <Namworld>	looks like 2 Havelock sold a good amount
Mar 25 19:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.06 = 2.12 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:21:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.05 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:21:35 <Namworld>	3 havelock assets
Mar 25 19:21:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.81885 = 4.9131 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:22:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.05 = 2.1 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.02 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:22:29 <tiberiusiv>	odd
Mar 25 19:23:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.02 = 2.04 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:24:12 <Namworld>	It's gone... it's all gone
Mar 25 19:26:21 <tiberiusiv>	why did all the havelock assets tank
Mar 25 19:28:36 <tiberiusiv>	that chinese btc exchange has surpassed btce
Mar 25 19:32:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00064118 = 6.6683 BTC [+]
Mar 25 19:32:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8543 @ 0.00064211 = 5.4855 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 19:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 8 @ 1.02 = 8.16 BTC [-]
Mar 25 19:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4602 = 0.9204 BTC [+]
Mar 25 19:44:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 48 @ 0.4602 = 22.0896 BTC [+]
Mar 25 19:56:59 <benkay>	tiberiusiv: what resource do you use to evaluate exchange volume?
Mar 25 19:57:28 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoincharts
Mar 25 19:57:32 <Troic>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/
Mar 25 19:57:44 <Troic>	?
Mar 25 19:57:58 <benkay>	what's the chinese exchange called?
Mar 25 19:59:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15109 @ 0.00064211 = 9.7016 BTC [+]
Mar 25 19:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5291 @ 0.00064604 = 3.4182 BTC [+]
Mar 25 20:00:00 <tiberiusiv>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/
Mar 25 20:00:04 <tiberiusiv>	btcnCNY
Mar 25 20:00:15 <tiberiusiv>	i think yesterday it even had higher volume then bitstamp
Mar 25 20:00:40 <tiberiusiv>	https://btcchina.com/
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Mar 25 20:11:32 <taub>	great success
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Mar 25 20:11:37 <taub>	i probaly got out too early
Mar 25 20:11:44 <taub>	but at least i got money in the pocket this time
Mar 25 20:11:55 <taub>	watch it surge down to 70.6
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Mar 25 20:20:39 <smickles>	http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SDUaTHsviDU/UUZEepua_hI/AAAAAAAADow/F50U8DiRnJE/s1600/snailonplate.jpg
Mar 25 20:23:00 <benkay>	taub what do you figure a good steady-state value for a bitcoin to be?
Mar 25 20:26:19 <taub>	i dont know :|
Mar 25 20:26:32 <taub>	i hope couple of thousands or more?
Mar 25 20:27:03 <taub>	i just trade teh short term down movments, my general assumption is that it is still wildly underpriced in the very long term
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Mar 25 20:27:30 <taub>	but i dont have anything to back this up
Mar 25 20:28:18 <benkay>	you have skin in the game apparently
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Mar 25 20:28:29 <benkay>	that's more backup to your opinions than most people who show up here have.
Mar 25 20:31:27 <Troic>	just quote rick valkvinge he has some wild figures
Mar 25 20:32:09 <dub>	the future of bticoin folks
Mar 25 20:32:10 <dub>	http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/video/2013/mar/22/bitcoin-currency-video?INTCMP=SRCH
Mar 25 20:32:33 <benkay>	transcript?
Mar 25 20:32:41 <benkay>	no time in my life for weedjos...
Mar 25 20:32:53 <dub>	Amir and Mihai squatting in an abandoned office block
Mar 25 20:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.461 = 1.844 BTC [+]
Mar 25 20:36:05 <dub>	I have this like skill that not many people have
Mar 25 20:36:45 <dub>	I can look and sound like a homeless meth addict whose mother and father were brother and sister
Mar 25 20:37:19 <arij>	whats on the low right now
Mar 25 20:37:26 <arij>	any good buys?
Mar 25 20:37:43 <benkay>	SILVER
Mar 25 20:37:47 <benkay>	get some
Mar 25 20:37:58 <arij>	where?
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Mar 25 20:38:10 <benkay>	that was a joke
Mar 25 20:38:14 <arij>	oh
Mar 25 20:38:22 <benkay>	silver is a nominally hard-asset backed asset that's actually backed by paper
Mar 25 20:38:26 <benkay>	maybe?
Mar 25 20:38:31 <dub>	I hear Usagi has some
Mar 25 20:38:37 <benkay>	answers are not forthcoming on the topic
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Mar 25 20:52:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.151 BTC [-]
Mar 25 21:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4602 = 0.9204 BTC [-]
Mar 25 21:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4999988 = 2 BTC [+]
Mar 25 21:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49999998 BTC [+]
Mar 25 21:05:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.49999999 = 22.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 21:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46015 BTC [-]
Mar 25 21:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [-]
Mar 25 21:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4601 = 0.9202 BTC [-]
Mar 25 21:14:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 21:23:40 <dub>	http://i.imgur.com/2LXeTKg.jpg
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Mar 25 21:24:55 <smickles>	yup
Mar 25 21:26:06 <Bugpowder>	Morning in tokyo, Ask wall gone. Coincidence???
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Mar 25 21:30:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 859 @ 0.00064604 = 0.5549 BTC [+]
Mar 25 21:30:40 <Namworld>	Nope it is not...
Mar 25 21:30:49 <Namworld>	Someone might have bought a few BTC.
Mar 25 21:30:55 <Namworld>	Maybe he bought at 74...
Mar 25 21:31:01 <Namworld>	His wall was for that purpose =P
Mar 25 21:34:00 <Bugpowder>	Feeling better about life again
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Mar 25 21:40:18 <tiberiusiv>	that wall was probably fake
Mar 25 21:41:11 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.msg1676967#msg1676967
Mar 25 21:41:17 <ThickAsThieves>	lol, buy!
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Mar 25 21:42:42 <Bugpowder>	There is no such thing as a fake wall
Mar 25 21:43:33 <Bugpowder>	It may have been intentionally placed to Temporarily cause a dip, but all bids and asks that hit the book are funded
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Mar 25 21:48:48 <splnkr>	avalon batch 3 asics currently showing as in stock...
Mar 25 21:49:46 <dub>	lol
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Mar 25 21:55:17 <Bugpowder_>	;;bids 0
Mar 25 21:55:19 <gribble>	There are currently 36612754 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8702551.03688 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0172 seconds
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Mar 25 22:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.57 = 2.28 BTC [+]
Mar 25 22:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.555 = 2.775 BTC [-]
Mar 25 22:13:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.10898 = 0.3269 BTC [+]
Mar 25 22:23:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.144 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 22:28:13 <dub>	;;market buy 8702551
Mar 25 22:28:16 <gribble>	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 53576.53 bitcoins, for a total of 2985197559867.7119 USD and take the price to 1337000001337.0000. | Data vintage: 0.0048 seconds
Mar 25 22:28:57 <dub>	derp
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Mar 25 22:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.56 = 5.04 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 22:35:34 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 22:35:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.50001, Best ask: 75.86675, Bid-ask spread: 0.36674, Last trade: 75.50000, 24 hour volume: 81357.68268441, 24 hour low: 69.80000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.51706
Mar 25 22:35:38 <Bowjob>	"Basically they are supposed to be a new form of currency outside the government where you can use a computer to "Mine" for these coins which have a value based on the people. There is nothing backing it up and all a government would need to do is put their super computers on mining patrol and they would get almost every single coin still out there and they would control the BC market. It is a good idea that will not work. 
Mar 25 22:35:52 <Bowjob>	bitcoin according to a silver bug
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Mar 25 22:38:12 <dub>	s/silver bug/retard
Mar 25 22:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 22:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.556 = 2.224 BTC [-]
Mar 25 22:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49999998 BTC [+]
Mar 25 22:48:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.49999999 = 7.5 BTC [+]
Mar 25 22:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
Mar 25 22:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [+]
Mar 25 22:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0045 = 4.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 22:54:58 <KRS1>	lol@gribble
Mar 25 22:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Mar 25 22:58:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0045 = 4.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 25 23:03:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0045 = 9 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:04:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 25 23:04:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.68998, Best ask: 75.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.30002, Last trade: 75.99000, 24 hour volume: 81545.23033986, 24 hour low: 69.80000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.53679
Mar 25 23:06:16 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 23:06:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.50003, Best ask: 75.95899, Bid-ask spread: 0.45896, Last trade: 75.50001, 24 hour volume: 81523.39556640, 24 hour low: 69.80000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.54279
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Mar 25 23:11:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.10898 = 0.8718 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:12:34 <Chaang-Noi>	we got some new ath but not many bids added
Mar 25 23:12:52 <Chaang-Noi>	a sell of 1 million dollars worth of btc still gets up 71 for an average :/
Mar 25 23:13:11 <kakobrekla>	cool
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Mar 25 23:15:14 <KRS1>	I just logged in to BFL and could not find my order-
Mar 25 23:15:16 <KRS1>	My Orders
Mar 25 23:15:16 <KRS1>	 .
Mar 25 23:15:16 <KRS1>	You have placed no orders.
Mar 25 23:15:16 <KRS1>	« Back
Mar 25 23:15:19 <KRS1>	Uhh..
Mar 25 23:15:31 <KRS1>	That must mean it shipped.
Mar 25 23:15:39 <kakobrekla>	no soup for you
Mar 25 23:15:42 <KRS1>	=(
Mar 25 23:16:23 <Bowjob>	yeap, shipped
Mar 25 23:16:23 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 25 23:22:08 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks krs1 i need that laugh thismorning:) bfl shipped, hahahaha
Mar 25 23:22:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet luke jr is board as fuck in a hotel room
Mar 25 23:22:49 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146689.0
Mar 25 23:22:50 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 25 23:23:25 <Bowjob>	"I should have no problem repaying this as long as BTC stays bellow $41.66 .."
Mar 25 23:24:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00449999 = 4.5 BTC [-]
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Mar 25 23:26:18 <Bugpowder_>	so that thread is locked?
Mar 25 23:26:53 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 25 23:26:56 <Bugpowder_>	Some people don't plan on becoming scammers, circumstances just force them into it.
Mar 25 23:27:07 <Bowjob>	it was locked, then a mod unlocked and posted
Mar 25 23:27:10 <Bowjob>	yeah same sentiment here
Mar 25 23:27:14 <Bugpowder_>	Circumstances that they didn't have the good sense to avoid.
Mar 25 23:27:19 <Bowjob>	i dont think we wants to scam..
Mar 25 23:27:34 <Bowjob>	but he's on the run..
Mar 25 23:27:40 <Bowjob>	he has 4 days to start paying
Mar 25 23:28:41 <Bugpowder_>	;;calc 776*(77-34.50)
Mar 25 23:28:41 <gribble>	32980
Mar 25 23:29:21 <Bowjob>	32k penalty
Mar 25 23:29:26 <Bowjob>	his face is all over the internet
Mar 25 23:29:46 <Bugpowder_>	yeah... if you were so capital poor that you had to borrow 30k for your business idea to begin with... well... game over man.
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Mar 25 23:30:27 <Bowjob>	i wonder if yochdog is gonna turn a scam, i mean he borrowed 10k btc, for like 3 years
Mar 25 23:30:41 <jcpham>	yikes he's set
Mar 25 23:30:46 <Bugpowder_>	is ianbakewell going to return the s.dice shares too?
Mar 25 23:30:47 <jcpham>	no need to reapy that ever
Mar 25 23:30:52 <jcpham>	*repay
Mar 25 23:30:58 <Bowjob>	well, so far he hasnt been tagged and no complaints
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Mar 25 23:31:03 <Bowjob>	so im wondering about that
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Mar 25 23:31:17 <Bowjob>	personally i dont like lending btc out, unless its absolutely certain ill get it back
Mar 25 23:31:36 <jcpham>	if i had "borrowed" 10k btc a year ago i'd be *poof* right about now
Mar 25 23:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	thats a pretty high bar.
Mar 25 23:31:41 <MJR_>	lol, I prefer lending it when I don't know what will happen...
Mar 25 23:31:45 <jcpham>	pretty difficult to repay that
Mar 25 23:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i borrowed ~10k exactly a year ago.
Mar 25 23:31:56 <jcpham>	need a real good business plan if you spent it
Mar 25 23:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:32:19 <jcpham>	if you converted it to fiat you are fucked
Mar 25 23:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't. teh original mpoe bonds got like 9500 or so btc
Mar 25 23:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	most of that's unmoved.
Mar 25 23:33:15 <jcpham>	good chance of digging out of the hole by staying in btc
Mar 25 23:33:20 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=73599.0
Mar 25 23:33:22 <Bowjob>	for 5 years
Mar 25 23:33:47 <Bowjob>	he earns in BTC, but its idk.
Mar 25 23:34:04 <jcpham>	anything you could have bought over the last year, other than btc, you lot money on technically
Mar 25 23:34:21 <jcpham>	so it's a hard loan to me financially
Mar 25 23:34:27 <jcpham>	i bleedb money though
Mar 25 23:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	there was a guy on the forum servicing a long term btc loan
Mar 25 23:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	old timer. name escapes me atm
Mar 25 23:35:00 <mircea_popescu>	taken when btc was like 5 or some shit
Mar 25 23:35:20 <jcpham>	loans are like gift. the blockchain is god.
Mar 25 23:35:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7832 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7831 = 1.5662 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7821 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.77727 = 4.6636 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.77726 = 10.1044 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.77725 = 3.109 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77721 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.777 = 1.554 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:46 <mircea_popescu>	um'
Mar 25 23:35:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.769 = 2.307 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 32 @ 0.761105 = 24.3554 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	honeymoon over ?
Mar 25 23:35:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.761101 = 3.8055 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.760002 = 3.8 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:35:59 <Bugpowder_>	how people keep getting BTC given to them as loans is utterly mystifying to me.
Mar 25 23:36:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:36:22 <Bugpowder_>	wowwww almost 50BTC in shares
Mar 25 23:36:29 <Bugpowder_>	2/3 of an avalon
Mar 25 23:36:49 <ThickAsThieves>	not that much
Mar 25 23:37:01 <ThickAsThieves>	probly just someone who moved from friedcat to btct to sell
Mar 25 23:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc asicminer-pt
Mar 25 23:37:23 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.78 / 0.79829 / 0.829 (209 shares, 166.8 BTC),  7D: 0.761102 / 0.83118 / 0.93 (1541 shares, 1280.8 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.77396 / 1 (4449 shares, 3443.3 BTC)
Mar 25 23:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	now that's interestying
Mar 25 23:37:41 <mircea_popescu>	1D: 0.78 vs [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.76000
Mar 25 23:38:05 <Bugpowder_>	well, the market is uhhh.... a little -thin- below 0.75
Mar 25 23:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves the girl's early estimate was .75 to 1.5
Mar 25 23:38:21 <Bugpowder_>	https://btct.co/security/ASICMINER-PT
Mar 25 23:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	then they kinda blew it
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Mar 25 23:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	then people were rooting for "oh, we'll reach 1 anyway"
Mar 25 23:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	then...
Mar 25 23:38:41 <Bugpowder_>	16 shares of bid over 0.01
Mar 25 23:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Mar 25 23:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	that bad, rly ?
Mar 25 23:39:08 <dub>	that bad?
Mar 25 23:39:10 <Bowjob>	if asicminer reaches 1 btc..
Mar 25 23:39:19 <Bowjob>	that means they expect asicminer to make at least 400k BTC
Mar 25 23:39:19 <dub>	there is no depth its hardly representative of value
Mar 25 23:39:20 <Bugpowder_>	mircea_popescu: the girl's estimates were .075 to 0.15 no?
Mar 25 23:39:21 <Bowjob>	thats crazy shit
Mar 25 23:39:24 <ThickAsThieves>	BF goes deeper
Mar 25 23:39:24 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 25 23:39:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.30000, Best ask: 75.37700, Bid-ask spread: 0.07700, Last trade: 75.55000, 24 hour volume: 80678.53152168, 24 hour low: 69.80000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.58758
Mar 25 23:39:31 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ no, .75 to 1.5 iirc
Mar 25 23:39:40 <Bugpowder_>	per share?
Mar 25 23:39:43 <Bugpowder_>	I don't think so
Mar 25 23:39:45 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144319.0
Mar 25 23:40:02 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah she said about that
Mar 25 23:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	All these things considered it is perhaps not unreasonable to judge ASICMiner revenue generation ability in the 5 to 15k BTC a month range. If this is in fact correct it's also not unreasonable to judge ASICMiner's market cap roughly equal or a little under that of Satoshi Dice, in which case the 400,000 share company would be worth on MPEx somewhere between 3 and 600k BTC, or between .75 and 1.5 BTC per share, making
Mar 25 23:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	Bitfountain the third multi-million dollar Bitcoin public corp in Bitcoin history.
Mar 25 23:40:19 <ThickAsThieves>	it wouldve hit 1+ if they actually got to 12TH+
Mar 25 23:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	It's unclear how much risk discount investors would be wanting to apply to that valuation, and it's also unclear how much discount will willy-nilly end up being applied in the event ASICMiner actually foregoes liquidity and lists on some marginal venue. But in any case things look pretty bright at the moment, so well done!
Mar 25 23:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	golden mouth girl.
Mar 25 23:40:54 <dub>	inb4 its .9 again
Mar 25 23:41:10 <dub>	50 shares moving doesn't mean shit
Mar 25 23:41:40 <mircea_popescu>	morel ike 100 i think
Mar 25 23:42:16 <dub>	did you see the latest taaki video?
Mar 25 23:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	no lol
Mar 25 23:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	is he cutting ?
Mar 25 23:42:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.343 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:42:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.344 = 1.376 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:42:46 <dub>	http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/video/2013/mar/22/bitcoin-currency-video?INTCMP=SRCH
Mar 25 23:43:49 <dub>	we need to identify that building and burn it down with those two inside
Mar 25 23:44:48 <Bugpowder_>	What would be the appropriate subform to post an add to borrow asicminer shares?
Mar 25 23:44:58 <Bugpowder_>	for shorting purposes
Mar 25 23:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ heh. let me find it
Mar 25 23:46:04 <Bugpowder_>	I mean, its a good company.
Mar 25 23:46:12 <Bugpowder_>	but the valuation is looking pretty frothy
Mar 25 23:47:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 25 23:47:18 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6880830.90136 based on data since last change | 7242616.81723 based on data for last three days
Mar 25 23:47:18 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer sell off lol?
Mar 25 23:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.msg1605879#msg1605879
Mar 25 23:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	ask that guy.
Mar 25 23:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.5 = 10.5 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:48:12 <Chaang-Noi>	mp one sell off on a thin market, still the only real asic company out there
Mar 25 23:48:30 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl had a non updated lol
Mar 25 23:48:35 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi operations were never their problem.
Mar 25 23:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	but theres a LOT more to success than just that.
Mar 25 23:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	as unromantic as this may sound, it's true.
Mar 25 23:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:49:22 <Bugpowder_>	ah, that thread was the one I was thinking of for the girl's estimates
Mar 25 23:49:31 <Chaang-Noi>	dividends wont end anytime soon, not sure what the value really should be at but im not selling mine:)
Mar 25 23:49:47 <ThickAsThieves>	you sold some to me a month ago ;)
Mar 25 23:49:52 <ThickAsThieves>	.425
Mar 25 23:49:55 <topace>	!ticker h vtx
Mar 25 23:49:57 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.50000000 / 0.72040307 / 0.79900000 (418 shares, 301.12848142 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.41873282 / 0.79900000 (11129 shares, 4660.07750417 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.41873282 / 0.79900000 (11129 shares, 4660.07750417 BTC)
Mar 25 23:50:10 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah im not selling more, i had to get some cash
Mar 25 23:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol right. well done topace
Mar 25 23:50:31 <mircea_popescu>	2x asicminer volume yest. why is that ? is cavirtex a larger corp than asicminer ?
Mar 25 23:50:45 <Bowjob>	canadians love their companies
Mar 25 23:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	at the rate this is going, it's gonna be actually.
Mar 25 23:50:56 <Chaang-Noi>	you cant see asicminer trade volume mp, only one of two pt
Mar 25 23:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	unless they fuck up their registrations
Mar 25 23:51:04 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 25 23:51:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.45000000 / 0.48185851 / 0.52000000 (265 shares, 127.69250459 BTC), 7D: 0.40000000 / 0.48015951 / 0.53000000 (1375 shares, 660.21932648 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.54970142 / 0.69400000 (5906 shares, 3246.53658408 BTC)
Mar 25 23:51:08 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi listen, this is a nonargument.
Mar 25 23:51:10 <ThickAsThieves>	several people starting pumpin VTX at around .5
Mar 25 23:51:14 <ThickAsThieves>	started*
Mar 25 23:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that i can't see it speaks against it not excusing it.
Mar 25 23:51:31 <Bowjob>	i couldnt understand the vtx pump either, i missed it
Mar 25 23:51:34 <topace>	yea pretty nuts
Mar 25 23:51:40 <topace>	and 0 dividend announced for vtx
Mar 25 23:51:42 <Chaang-Noi>	why are you talking about the trade volume if it is a nonargumnt? im just saying you cant see the real trade volume, that is a fact :/
Mar 25 23:51:42 <Bowjob>	any more ipos, topace
Mar 25 23:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	incredibly people are still betting yes on bfl : https://twitter.com/BitBetsBets/status/316395891206549505
Mar 25 23:51:59 <topace>	Bowjob: not in the immediate future
Mar 25 23:52:08 <Chaang-Noi>	mircea_popescu> 2x asicminer volume yest. why is that ? is cavirtex a larger corp than asicminer ?      i was answering this question
Mar 25 23:52:09 <Bowjob>	i was wrong about vtx, i didnt see any dividends, i didnt think it was gonna get funded
Mar 25 23:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi the trade volume IS the controlling argument.
Mar 25 23:52:13 <Bowjob>	much to my chargrin
Mar 25 23:52:20 <dub>	dude people bet on pirate for how long after he split?
Mar 25 23:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that asicminer fucked up their ipo is NOT an excuse for them
Mar 25 23:52:21 <Bowjob>	i learned though, if i see huge volume..
Mar 25 23:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	but the very problem they face.
Mar 25 23:52:25 <Bowjob>	get in11
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Mar 25 23:52:43 <mircea_popescu>	dub this is a point.
Mar 25 23:52:46 <topace>	yea VTX sold out in ~12 hours.. WITHOUT any pre-announcement of when teh IPO was happening
Mar 25 23:52:50 <Chaang-Noi>	but you dont even know what the vo;lume is, but i still disagree, some private companies are worth more than highly traded ones
Mar 25 23:53:04 <topace>	and the owner (joseph) didnt even email his user base to tell them about it either
Mar 25 23:53:05 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi i know what the volume is. this :
Mar 25 23:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Mar 25 23:53:12 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.75 / 0.78997 / 0.829 (288 shares, 227.5 BTC),  7D: 0.75 / 0.82809 / 0.93 (1620 shares, 1341.5 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.77385 / 1 (4528 shares, 3504 BTC)
Mar 25 23:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	THAT is the volume. everything else is bullshit.
Mar 25 23:53:21 <Chaang-Noi>	that is one pt
Mar 25 23:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	we have standards in btc, we stick to them.
Mar 25 23:53:23 <Bowjob>	it was on the website on cavirtex.. i remember
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Mar 25 23:53:28 <Bowjob>	that they will announce an ipo soon
Mar 25 23:53:31 <Chaang-Noi>	pt is pass though, it is not real stock
Mar 25 23:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	people who think they're smarter are much akin to the street prophets in ny.
Mar 25 23:53:39 <ThickAsThieves>	฿215.44022652vol on BF
Mar 25 23:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi exactly.
Mar 25 23:53:42 <ThickAsThieves>	too
Mar 25 23:53:45 <Chaang-Noi>	standards in btc? lol
Mar 25 23:53:48 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 25 23:54:04 <topace>	Bowjob: yea it was announced on the website, but if you werent on teh website when it happened you wouldnt even have known
Mar 25 23:54:13 <topace>	i was baffled why he didnt want to announce it at least a few days ahead of time
Mar 25 23:54:17 <Chaang-Noi>	you show me one volume of one pt and say it means something about the company? im not the only one who would think that is silly
Mar 25 23:54:19 <topace>	give people time to prep and move funds to havelock
Mar 25 23:54:31 <dub>	sounds like an evoorhees move
Mar 25 23:54:36 <dub>	ie, stupid
Mar 25 23:54:37 <topace>	haha
Mar 25 23:54:40 <ThickAsThieves>	BCTC only holds 5342 shares
Mar 25 23:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi you may not be the only one that thinks that's silly, but that's quite irrelevant.
Mar 25 23:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	topace you gotta show people the light moar.
Mar 25 23:55:03 <Bowjob>	mp, what happened to the avalon bet
Mar 25 23:55:08 <Bowjob>	i dont see it on bitbet
Mar 25 23:55:09 <Chaang-Noi>	oh mp, tisk tisk tisk :)
Mar 25 23:55:20 <ThickAsThieves>	topace, whatever you did worked just fine
Mar 25 23:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00449999 = 1.35 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:55:29 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob did it close ?
Mar 25 23:55:35 <Bowjob>	yeah it should be closed
Mar 25 23:55:36 <Chaang-Noi>	i think your just jelly it is not on your exchange and you did not invest with them:)
Mar 25 23:55:40 <Bowjob>	but i dont see it anywgere
Mar 25 23:55:43 <topace>	hehe yea, i didnt do _anything_ all we did was put the banner on the www.cavirtex.com website and a news article on havelock website
Mar 25 23:55:44 <Bowjob>	when i type avalon
Mar 25 23:55:48 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob then are you searching on the closed ones ?
Mar 25 23:55:54 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 25 23:56:00 <topace>	thats all it needed apparently
Mar 25 23:56:00 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi ya dude, totally. the fact that they failed to meet spec is something that makes me jelly.
Mar 25 23:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that they've cost their investors 100k btc or so makes me jelly.
Mar 25 23:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	i'm jelly to my ears, srsly.
Mar 25 23:56:15 <Bowjob>	oh, found it
Mar 25 23:56:21 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe YOU didnt do this, but the asset also had a nice prospectus, and a video
Mar 25 23:56:31 <Chaang-Noi>	100,000 btc? lol you trollin?
Mar 25 23:56:33 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Mar 25 23:56:47 <topace>	ThickAsThieves: yea, we delayed it 3 times due to prospectus re-writes
Mar 25 23:56:48 <Bowjob>	so topace how are investors gonna get paid
Mar 25 23:56:51 <mircea_popescu>	read the forum threads linked above, i won't bother rehashing it.
Mar 25 23:56:53 <Chaang-Noi>	how did they lose 100k btc then, lol
Mar 25 23:56:54 <Bowjob>	i didnt see any dividends back
Mar 25 23:56:57 <Bowjob>	on the sheet
Mar 25 23:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	that's what i pay pr for after all.
Mar 25 23:57:07 <topace>	pure growth stock?
Mar 25 23:57:15 <topace>	im sure there'll be dividends eventually
Mar 25 23:57:20 <Bowjob>	I'm interested on the leveraged trading,
Mar 25 23:57:22 <Chaang-Noi>	cant back up crazy claim, says not trollin, lol
Mar 25 23:57:29 <topace>	they just havent been announced yet
Mar 25 23:57:30 <Bowjob>	i can lend some btc there, have 12% guaranteed
Mar 25 23:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.msg1605879#msg1605879 <<< read.
Mar 25 23:57:49 <Bowjob>	if you watched the video.. he mentioned the leverage as part of cavirtex
Mar 25 23:57:51 <dub>	all I see is sour grapes tbh
Mar 25 23:57:51 <ThickAsThieves>	regarding asicminer, its still a very small amount of shares even being traded
Mar 25 23:57:56 <Bowjob>	so i assume he's gonna need osme btc
Mar 25 23:58:01 <mircea_popescu>	and in general, when you're sent to do reading it's because you're sprouting nonsense.
Mar 25 23:58:11 <Bowjob>	and its guaranteed since i think they'll make people put up collateral
Mar 25 23:58:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01965 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:58:20 <topace>	Bowjob: yes, the leveraged trading will happen on virtex, using the short fund on havelock as collateral
Mar 25 23:58:22 <dub>	as ThickAsThieves is saying there is no market for AM beyond a couple of pissant PTs and some forum auctions
Mar 25 23:58:37 <mircea_popescu>	dub that's exactly what "blowing your ipo" is.
Mar 25 23:58:42 <Chaang-Noi>	you wanted me to read inauncall your girl names?
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Mar 25 23:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	you're going "dude, i'm missing an eye and both legs"
Mar 25 23:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	yes dude, you are. that's what fucking up is. missing body parts.
Mar 25 23:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.75449999 = 6.036 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:59:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7545 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:59:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.755 = 3.775 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:59:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.75999996 = 2.28 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:59:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.75999998 = 14.44 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:59:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.76 = 2.28 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:59:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [+]
Mar 25 23:59:09 <Bowjob>	ooh
Mar 25 23:59:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:59:10 <ThickAsThieves>	bam!
Mar 25 23:59:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.68 = 1.36 BTC [-]
Mar 25 23:59:14 <Bowjob>	crazy
Mar 25 23:59:32 <Bowjob>	imo best investments as a growth stock..
Mar 25 23:59:41 <Bowjob>	asicminer. and HIM at havelock
Mar 25 23:59:50 <Bowjob>	nice btc multiplier
Mar 25 23:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	what's him ?
Mar 25 23:59:58 <topace>	mircea_popescu: my mining fund
Mar 25 23:59:59 <Bowjob>	same as asicminer, tho smaller
Mar 26 00:00:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8273 @ 0.00064056 = 5.2994 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:00:15 <Bowjob>	the only thing that bothers me is that you took bfl pre orders
Mar 26 00:00:17 <topace>	mircea_popescu: yea, until fucking BFL delivers
Mar 26 00:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	topace those do poorly historically. what's it got, fpga ?
Mar 26 00:00:34 <topace>	yea about 22GH atm, all FPGA
Mar 26 00:00:42 <topace>	since like, last summer
Mar 26 00:00:43 <Namworld>	VTX is going nicely
Mar 26 00:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1676943#msg1676943 << lol bitbillions guy is still at it
Mar 26 00:01:02 <topace>	but we only pay out ~50% as dividends, with extra being reinvested
Mar 26 00:01:06 <topace>	in new hardware
Mar 26 00:01:16 <Bowjob>	did you order any avalons
Mar 26 00:01:16 <topace>	so its not like lame gigaminer where you're buying a certian mh/s
Mar 26 00:01:29 <topace>	your share is always your percent share of the total
Mar 26 00:01:35 <Namworld>	oh, don't tell me about it...
Mar 26 00:01:37 <Bowjob>	yeah thats a pretty good fund, i like it... but. dat bfl
Mar 26 00:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	topace that's saner.
Mar 26 00:01:53 <topace>	indeed
Mar 26 00:02:01 <Bowjob>	they are pretty silent over there, josh is just going insulting people on the forums
Mar 26 00:02:03 <Bowjob>	as usual
Mar 26 00:02:06 <topace>	we were even outdoiing network increases and raising dividends
Mar 26 00:02:13 <topace>	due to the reinvestment in new fpga's
Mar 26 00:02:18 <topace>	until a few months ago
Mar 26 00:02:21 <topace>	when all the ASIC shit hit the fan
Mar 26 00:03:04 <topace>	but... we also have 1.8Th on pre-order, and most of which will be paid for with re-invested earnings (so no need to issue new units to buy the units up front)
Mar 26 00:03:09 <topace>	thanks to the btc appreciation
Mar 26 00:03:31 <topace>	what we had saved to buy asics to cover 4-6 units, now will cover pretty much all 30 units we have on preorder
Mar 26 00:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	topace the pre-order is on bfl ?
Mar 26 00:04:15 <topace>	yea
Mar 26 00:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Mar 26 00:04:25 <topace>	dating back to the first week of pre-orders
Mar 26 00:04:26 <Bowjob>	that bothers me, lol
Mar 26 00:04:37 <Bowjob>	how much was the 1.5 minirig
Mar 26 00:04:39 <Bowjob>	in btc
Mar 26 00:04:40 <mircea_popescu>	a, it's not paid yet ?
Mar 26 00:04:47 <topace>	yea, starting to really bother me too.. however -- its not paid for with HIM funds
Mar 26 00:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	so basically you hold the early option to 1.8th of bfl
Mar 26 00:04:51 <topace>	its all paid for with my personal funds
Mar 26 00:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	at a fixed early price ?
Mar 26 00:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	uh
Mar 26 00:05:02 <topace>	when they are sitting on my desk, HIM buys them from ME
Mar 26 00:05:08 <mircea_popescu>	o i c.
Mar 26 00:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	you fool :D
Mar 26 00:05:13 <topace>	at a markup of course
Mar 26 00:05:19 <topace>	hehe, worked well for the fpga's
Mar 26 00:05:34 <topace>	bfl will deliver
Mar 26 00:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	next thing out of my mouth was "so are you lending stock ?"  but averted.
Mar 26 00:05:36 <topace>	just a matter of when
Mar 26 00:05:47 <Bowjob>	31 BTC says not until july at least
Mar 26 00:06:02 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/
Mar 26 00:06:21 <Bowjob>	mhm, maybe its a good idea to make my own mini farm starting with 1 avalon
Mar 26 00:06:23 <Chaang-Noi>	i think im going to lose my bet thinking bfl would ship this month, lol
Mar 26 00:06:25 <Bowjob>	have them multiply
Mar 26 00:06:26 <Chaang-Noi>	oh well
Mar 26 00:06:31 <Bowjob>	i'll drive my parents nuts
Mar 26 00:06:42 <jcpham>	shipping april 1st
Mar 26 00:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	"The other factor, of course, is that Bitcoin can't be manipulated as easily as gold and silver obviously are. "
Mar 26 00:06:54 <Chaang-Noi>	perfect day for bfl
Mar 26 00:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	dude wat
Mar 26 00:06:58 <Chaang-Noi>	fools day, lol
Mar 26 00:07:20 <Bowjob>	the first buyers were better off holding btc
Mar 26 00:07:21 <ThickAsThieves>	that would be perfect
Mar 26 00:07:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i went long on bitcoinica :)
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Mar 26 00:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	anyone know the bitcoinity ppl ?
Mar 26 00:10:51 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Mar 26 00:11:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 00:11:00 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 26 00:11:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 26 00:11:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.60501, Best ask: 75.69800, Bid-ask spread: 0.09299, Last trade: 75.60500, 24 hour volume: 80478.52504177, 24 hour low: 69.80000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.59924
Mar 26 00:12:34 <topace>	anywho, im off
Mar 26 00:12:39 <topace>	later!
Mar 26 00:12:57 <Bowjob>	pce
Mar 26 00:14:01 <Bowjob>	i wonder if there's gonna be a bet before may 1st avalon
Mar 26 00:14:05 <Bowjob>	err.. i meant bfl
Mar 26 00:14:15 <Bowjob>	or we just go straight to july
Mar 26 00:14:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.19996944 = 199.9694 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:14:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.22859638 = 228.5964 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:14:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.17290381 = 172.9038 BTC
Mar 26 00:14:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.12457025 = 124.5703 BTC
Mar 26 00:14:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.14768862 = 147.6886 BTC
Mar 26 00:14:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.10373103 = 103.731 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.06926151 = 69.2615 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:15:05 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Mar 26 00:15:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.08527783 = 85.2778 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:15:36 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 26 00:15:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 48.45538965 / 66.4177076 / 76.84005554 (33537 shares, 2,737.95 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 26 00:15:38 <Bowjob>	someones making bank
Mar 26 00:15:47 <mircea_popescu>	these need like what, 79 or so ?
Mar 26 00:16:21 <ThickAsThieves>	correct
Mar 26 00:16:30 <tiberiusiv>	mp: are you under the assumption options tend to predict the future?
Mar 26 00:16:59 <ThickAsThieves>	sentiment can become self-fulfilling, like chart-reading
Mar 26 00:17:10 <tiberiusiv>	options tend to expire worthless
Mar 26 00:17:44 <ThickAsThieves>	like debates with you?
Mar 26 00:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.75999999 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:18:05 <ThickAsThieves>	sry that was called for
Mar 26 00:18:05 <tiberiusiv>	you never have anything to debate
Mar 26 00:18:13 <ThickAsThieves>	wasnt
Mar 26 00:18:14 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 26 00:18:26 <ThickAsThieves>	we havent debated? oh
Mar 26 00:20:03 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv did you read the oix article ?
Mar 26 00:20:50 <tiberiusiv>	mircea_popescu: i think mpex shares declined due to missing out on the cavirtex ipo
Mar 26 00:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	what, thre's some golden rule that all ipos must happen on mpex or something ?
Mar 26 00:21:17 <tiberiusiv>	cavirtex may have been the most successful ipo to date?
Mar 26 00:21:33 <tiberiusiv>	i dont even think sdice sold out that fast
Mar 26 00:22:00 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: well, it would have been nice that the higher quality issuances use mpex
Mar 26 00:22:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.22856513 = 228.5651 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:22:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.17285328 = 172.8533 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:22:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.1476286 = 147.6286 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:22:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.10365616 = 103.6562 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	you were just born last night so you think this morning is "the best morning to date".
Mar 26 00:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.08519875 = 85.1988 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:22:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.06918073 = 69.1807 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	for the record, bitbet is a tiny corp and collected something like that.
Mar 26 00:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice got 50k or so in ipo funds.
Mar 26 00:22:57 <tiberiusiv>	bitbet collected $300k ?
Mar 26 00:23:04 <tiberiusiv>	how when most of the shares are still for sale
Mar 26 00:23:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:23:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.681 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:23:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.68 = 1.36 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:23:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.68 = 2.04 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:23:36 <ThickAsThieves>	what is your point tib? that mpex must bow to havelock?
Mar 26 00:23:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:23:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:23:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.6591 = 5.2728 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	o boy.
Mar 26 00:23:54 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: no it was just interesting to see the stock price react
Mar 26 00:24:02 <ThickAsThieves>	did it?
Mar 26 00:24:11 <tiberiusiv>	it went down like 15%
Mar 26 00:24:19 <ThickAsThieves>	which are you refering to?
Mar 26 00:24:24 <tiberiusiv>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MPOE
Mar 26 00:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, well, prices vary a lot more than that for a lot less reason.
Mar 26 00:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice went to 0.008 one day just so.
Mar 26 00:24:31 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 26 00:24:39 <ThickAsThieves>	whats was the volume?
Mar 26 00:24:44 <Bowjob>	like a fuckton
Mar 26 00:24:49 <Bowjob>	400 worth of btc was it
Mar 26 00:24:53 <tiberiusiv>	asicminer tanked too ?
Mar 26 00:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob huge, like 1mn shares
Mar 26 00:25:23 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah AM forked
Mar 26 00:25:24 <Bowjob>	yeah so around 4k btc worth... at the time?
Mar 26 00:25:37 <Bowjob>	i remember the fiat value was about 80k usd
Mar 26 00:25:53 <tiberiusiv>	so what exactly is asicminer? avalons equipment
Mar 26 00:26:01 <tiberiusiv>	and they payout what they mined
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Mar 26 00:26:09 <Bowjob>	it was equally painful and pleasurable for the parties
Mar 26 00:26:19 <tiberiusiv>	or were they using asicminer shares to finance avalon orders lol
Mar 26 00:26:25 <Bowjob>	involved in the 0.008 transaction
Mar 26 00:26:46 <Bowjob>	well i asume its painful for just 1 party lol
Mar 26 00:27:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:27:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:27:38 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer up 12%
Mar 26 00:27:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;)
Mar 26 00:27:48 <tiberiusiv>	i think over the longrun you will be better off just owning btc outright then btc companies
Mar 26 00:27:53 <tiberiusiv>	same thing applied to gold
Mar 26 00:27:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol ThickAsThieves
Mar 26 00:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	there never were "gold companies"
Mar 26 00:28:09 <tiberiusiv>	miners
Mar 26 00:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	this is not what btc companies are.
Mar 26 00:28:33 <tiberiusiv>	theres also been countless gold transfer firms that have busted too
Mar 26 00:28:55 <tiberiusiv>	btc companies work for short time periods before competition becomes intense
Mar 26 00:28:59 <mircea_popescu>	still not a valid comparison.
Mar 26 00:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	listen, you have this broken approach to learning whereby you make definitive statements that are both wrong and uninformed
Mar 26 00:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	with the expectation someone will argue you into sense.
Mar 26 00:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	this is unwarranted, nobody really cares.
Mar 26 00:29:45 <tiberiusiv>	really they are wrong? like mtgox losing market share for 2 years?
Mar 26 00:29:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 5 @ 0.119 = 0.595 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	this isn't a school setting and you're certainly not the clever kid in the class or anything.
Mar 26 00:29:56 <tiberiusiv>	and mpex having no listings outside of sdice
Mar 26 00:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	and you can't manipulate me into it either, simply because of the  size differential.
Mar 26 00:30:42 <tiberiusiv>	you can make all the statements you want mp, facts speak for themselves and mpex has 1 firm on it that is not related to mpex.
Mar 26 00:31:46 <tiberiusiv>	mpex's only "edge" so far is its dominance of option trading
Mar 26 00:32:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 8 @ 0.0981512 = 0.7852 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 10 @ 0.10153501 = 1.0154 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:32:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 600 @ 0.086 = 51.6 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:32:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 10 @ 0.09959 = 0.9959 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:32:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 5 @ 0.0869 = 0.4345 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:35:25 <ThickAsThieves>	My first day trading options on MPEX and I'm up 22.5%, heyo!
Mar 26 00:35:54 <ThickAsThieves>	similar reports will not be given when i lose
Mar 26 00:36:43 <Namworld>	lol >.>
Mar 26 00:37:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 14 @ 0.344 = 4.816 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:38:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 600 @ 0.06917259 = 41.5036 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:38:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.34999 = 2.0999 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 400 @ 0.06917259 = 27.669 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:39:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 26 00:39:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.00002, Best ask: 75.51612, Bid-ask spread: 0.51610, Last trade: 75.51612, 24 hour volume: 80957.53550534, 24 hour low: 70.78624, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.64243
Mar 26 00:41:19 <Namworld>	and bids are increasing
Mar 26 00:42:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 70
Mar 26 00:42:39 <gribble>	There are currently 10614.009 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 759660.325336 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0074 seconds
Mar 26 00:42:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 80
Mar 26 00:42:42 <gribble>	There are currently 9697.4468 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 761706.200795 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.0644 seconds
Mar 26 00:42:50 <ThickAsThieves>	fight!
Mar 26 00:43:22 <Namworld>	eheh
Mar 26 00:43:45 <Namworld>	I could see us reaching 100... or at least hitting against the resistance there.
Mar 26 00:43:58 <Namworld>	But I want price to crash
Mar 26 00:44:05 <Namworld>	Just reaching 100 would be fun
Mar 26 00:44:06 <Bowjob>	you bought puts?
Mar 26 00:44:20 <Namworld>	nay
Mar 26 00:44:22 <Namworld>	Well...
Mar 26 00:44:32 <Namworld>	I got puts at 31 from the beggining of the month >.>
Mar 26 00:44:43 <Bowjob>	eh, im in this for the long haul, let the bears have their fun
Mar 26 00:44:50 <Namworld>	I could sell them into the 2 satoshi bids...
Mar 26 00:44:51 <Bowjob>	in the form of flash crashes
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Mar 26 00:45:52 <Bowjob>	honestly, i have no clue about crashes.. im sure no one really knows for sure
Mar 26 00:46:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 90 @ 0.00492 = 0.4428 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:47:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:47:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:47:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:47:57 <Bowjob>	well if btc crashes to 31, ian will turn legit
Mar 26 00:48:29 <Namworld>	Let the price flash crash to 0.01 USD per BTC (MtGox hax #2)
Mar 26 00:48:50 <Namworld>	;;bids 0
Mar 26 00:48:52 <pigeons>	people are paying a lot of money for virtex
Mar 26 00:48:53 <gribble>	There are currently 36697360 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8718811.60498 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0179 seconds
Mar 26 00:49:08 <Namworld>	VTX?
Mar 26 00:49:12 <pigeons>	yes
Mar 26 00:49:27 <pigeons>	!ticker h VTX
Mar 26 00:49:29 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.50000000 / 0.72102007 / 0.79900000 (428 shares, 308.59659097 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.41994834 / 0.79900000 (11169 shares, 4690.40300358 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.41994834 / 0.79900000 (11169 shares, 4690.40300358 BTC)
Mar 26 00:49:32 <Namworld>	pigeons, remember that most stuff on Havelock go to 10% or under per year
Mar 26 00:49:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:49:57 <Namworld>	well there's only 2 cases other than SDICE... not really representative...
Mar 26 00:50:07 <Namworld>	but people pay a good price/income on there
Mar 26 00:50:28 <pigeons>	i mean people are paying a lot of money for mpoe
Mar 26 00:50:45 <Namworld>	but assuming a minimum of 1k BTC traded daily and average of 2% fees.
Mar 26 00:51:01 <Namworld>	That's 20 BTC daily or 0.0002 per share
Mar 26 00:51:12 <Namworld>	so 0.073 per year
Mar 26 00:51:27 <Namworld>	if that's 10% per year, than price should be at least 0.73
Mar 26 00:51:30 <tiberiusiv>	pigeons: virtex is real canadian shares though
Mar 26 00:51:38 <Namworld>	That too...
Mar 26 00:51:54 <tiberiusiv>	pigeons: they have to be audited etc.
Mar 26 00:52:20 <pigeons>	we've seen what that's worth
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Mar 26 00:52:31 <Bowjob>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI2LVH4JfV0
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Mar 26 00:52:41 <Bowjob>	why litecoin will beat bitcoin
Mar 26 00:53:10 <tiberiusiv>	litecoin is a joke
Mar 26 00:53:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 00:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.22859638 = 228.5964 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:54:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.17282361 = 172.8236 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.14756634 = 147.5663 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:54:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.10353607 = 103.5361 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.08505736 = 85.0574 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:54:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.06902428 = 69.0243 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.08 = 80 BTC [+]
Mar 26 00:54:57 <pigeons>	wait they charge 2% on the btc side of the trade?
Mar 26 00:55:07 <Bowjob>	yeah both sides
Mar 26 00:55:11 <Bowjob>	fiat and btc side
Mar 26 00:56:28 <pigeons>	Ukto: you need to get some of that market
Mar 26 00:56:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.12440874 = 124.4087 BTC [-]
Mar 26 00:57:27 <pigeons>	i had a guy tell me yesterday he wanted to deposit cad with weex but was afraid since the market was so thin, he'd have to pay the 4.50$ withdraw fee
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Mar 26 00:58:43 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 26 00:59:05 <tiberiusiv>	cavirtex fees will be down alot by the end of the year
Mar 26 00:59:45 <tiberiusiv>	so far cavirtex is the fastest withdraw/deposit exchange available
Mar 26 01:00:07 <tiberiusiv>	under 2hrs to fund in canada, and same day withdrawls
Mar 26 01:00:16 <pigeons>	that is fast
Mar 26 01:00:33 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin-central does the same thing really.
Mar 26 01:00:35 <tiberiusiv>	only downside is its mostly catering to canadians at this point
Mar 26 01:00:53 <tiberiusiv>	can i fund bitcoin-central in 20,000 locations?
Mar 26 01:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	in about two million.
Mar 26 01:01:04 <tiberiusiv>	without having to deal with charlie shrem and bitinstant
Mar 26 01:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e banking locatyions there are in the sepa zone.
Mar 26 01:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
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Mar 26 01:01:18 <toffoo>	mircea_popescu: have you gotten any further along in trying to short asicminer?
Mar 26 01:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	they're what cavirtex aspires to be. banking partners and all.
Mar 26 01:01:31 <tiberiusiv>	true SEPA is nice
Mar 26 01:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo only in the sense bugpowder is now also looking for shares.
Mar 26 01:01:48 <toffoo>	to short?
Mar 26 01:01:51 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Mar 26 01:02:00 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: how deep is bitcoin-central order book
Mar 26 01:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	not very.
Mar 26 01:02:24 <toffoo>	if you could borrow them, how/where would you sell them?
Mar 26 01:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo i'd have a broker sell them for me.
Mar 26 01:02:50 <toffoo>	where?
Mar 26 01:02:53 <mircea_popescu>	wherever they are
Mar 26 01:03:02 <tiberiusiv>	toffoo: on the exchange they trade at
Mar 26 01:03:22 <toffoo>	the liquidity on the two passthroughs is low  (especially on the bid side)
Mar 26 01:03:50 <ChaangNoi>	asicminer is not listed on an exchange, it is not publicly traded, the stuff on the exchanges are just pt's sorta
Mar 26 01:04:04 <swhitt>	bioshock infinittte!
Mar 26 01:04:17 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo yea well, i wouldn't borrow mystical "asciminer" shares. i'd borrow actual tradeable instruments.
Mar 26 01:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00064056 = 3.4911 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:04:27 <ChaangNoi>	most of the volume of asic miner is traded otc on the forum
Mar 26 01:04:29 <toffoo>	has anyone made you a real offer to loan them?  INAU?
Mar 26 01:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo he made a fool of himself, as in, went all tough into offering them but then failed to actually go through.
Mar 26 01:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	not sure what his thinking was exactly.
Mar 26 01:05:10 <toffoo>	how many are you thinking of shorting?  (roughly)
Mar 26 01:05:31 <ChaangNoi>	i thought about it, but i did not think the pay off of 1% or so was worth the risk of putting them on an exchange
Mar 26 01:05:39 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, a few thousand ?
Mar 26 01:05:55 <toffoo>	I was thinking about it too  (loaning them)
Mar 26 01:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	what sort of term can you live with ?
Mar 26 01:06:23 <toffoo>	but at first glance it didn't seem like a very good idea ...
Mar 26 01:06:33 <toffoo>	but i thought about it a little deeper today,
Mar 26 01:06:36 <ChaangNoi>	have you seen the bids on the PT's ? not many, also when it is time to buy back, you might not has the asks... this might not be a good thing to short (if you do a pt)
Mar 26 01:06:48 <mircea_popescu>	well as a rule of thumb, if loaning them isn't a good idea selling them usually is a good idea.
Mar 26 01:06:48 <toffoo>	and maybe came up with an idea that makes more sense (for both parties)
Mar 26 01:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	outside of cp risk consideratios
Mar 26 01:07:05 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo a good starting point would be the old short contract i made for public use
Mar 26 01:07:06 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.bitcoincard.org/
Mar 26 01:07:06 <toffoo>	it was the cp risk considerations that I didn't like
Mar 26 01:07:09 <tiberiusiv>	whatever happend to this?
Mar 26 01:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mphf.txt
Mar 26 01:07:27 <toffoo>	lemme take a look at that ...
Mar 26 01:07:37 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157951.msg1677720#msg1677720
Mar 26 01:07:50 <Bowjob>	still deciding if this guy can be trusted or not
Mar 26 01:07:55 <Bowjob>	he seems to want an avalon 3
Mar 26 01:08:48 <ChaangNoi>	are they even still forsale?
Mar 26 01:08:52 <tiberiusiv>	the local begger
Mar 26 01:08:58 <ChaangNoi>	loaning btc is just asking for it to be gone...
Mar 26 01:09:17 <tiberiusiv>	0.5btc says he spends his borrowed funds on sdice
Mar 26 01:09:24 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob i wouldn't be borrowing btc to unheard of ppl.
Mar 26 01:09:36 <toffoo>	mircea_popescu: so did that trade actually happen?
Mar 26 01:09:46 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 26 01:10:02 <Bowjob>	yes yes of course. he's an uknown..
Mar 26 01:10:05 <toffoo>	my condolences   ??
Mar 26 01:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Mar 26 01:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	expired worthless.
Mar 26 01:10:36 <toffoo>	so you didn't sell the shares you borrowed?
Mar 26 01:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	i did sell them, yes.
Mar 26 01:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	did you actually read that thing ?
Mar 26 01:11:13 <toffoo>	just skimmed it   ;D
Mar 26 01:11:31 <toffoo>	so you covered a long time ago?
Mar 26 01:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	yes well that doesn't work too well for contracts.
Mar 26 01:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Mar 26 01:11:37 <ThickAsThieves>	when mpex call options book is empty, then what?
Mar 26 01:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	it.expired.worthless.
Mar 26 01:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	"And that the Lendee shall cause the shares be returned to the Lender on December
Mar 26 01:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	 the 19th, 2012, or at his preference pay their value calculated as the average
Mar 26 01:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	price during the past five days, except if ASICMINER should have become disconti
Mar 26 01:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	nued or are no longer traded in which case a token payment of 1 BTC shall be suf
Mar 26 01:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	ficient."
Mar 26 01:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves then nothing ? or what you mean
Mar 26 01:12:25 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: his bot will just fill it up.
Mar 26 01:12:29 <ThickAsThieves>	thx
Mar 26 01:12:37 <ThickAsThieves>	is that on a schedule or?
Mar 26 01:12:57 <mircea_popescu>	yeah about ten minutes or so roughly.
Mar 26 01:13:12 <tiberiusiv>	along with trades
Mar 26 01:13:13 <ChaangNoi>	did you pay the 1 btc?
Mar 26 01:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	iirc yea
Mar 26 01:14:12 <ThickAsThieves>	thx
Mar 26 01:14:19 <ChaangNoi>	well asicminer is still traded just otc and not on an exchange.
Mar 26 01:14:47 <Namworld>	Yeah. I got a whole BTC to show for that contract >.>
Mar 26 01:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	yeah but as i said above, "<mircea_popescu> toffoo yea well, i wouldn't borrow mystical "asciminer" shares. i'd borrow actual tradeable instruments."
Mar 26 01:15:01 <Namworld>	I just really wasn't expecting GLBSE to go down.
Mar 26 01:15:02 <ChaangNoi>	however it would be hard to find an average price
Mar 26 01:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi exactly.
Mar 26 01:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	there's no practical way to do stuff like shorting unless there's functioning markets.
Mar 26 01:15:35 <ChaangNoi>	i agree
Mar 26 01:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	which is why stupid shit like what friedcat is pulling is at best harmful
Mar 26 01:15:44 <ChaangNoi>	that is why i think it is very hard to short this stock
Mar 26 01:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	if he's not outright scamming.
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Mar 26 01:15:50 <ChaangNoi>	shorting a pt is risky
Mar 26 01:15:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:16:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:16:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:16:43 <ChaangNoi>	i dont think he is scamming, he just does not want a second glbse fail, this is him making sure he wont lose money again
Mar 26 01:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think he is either.
Mar 26 01:17:12 <ChaangNoi>	it is susspected nefario took some of the shares and claimed them as his own,
Mar 26 01:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	honestly i think he failed to uinderstand that operations is just piece of the pie, not the whole pie
Mar 26 01:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	had some "helpers" of the typical sort doing an exchange
Mar 26 01:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	which failed
Mar 26 01:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	and got himself stuck and with no time to handle things.
Mar 26 01:17:44 <ChaangNoi>	his goal was to get the money to make the stuff, he has it, he could care less about the share price as he will no longer sell shares
Mar 26 01:17:49 <mircea_popescu>	yes well...
Mar 26 01:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	that's asinine.
Mar 26 01:17:54 <ChaangNoi>	he and many of us, are in it for the dividends, not share price
Mar 26 01:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	that's besides the point.
Mar 26 01:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	when you run a public company you owe your shareholders some basic stuff.
Mar 26 01:18:30 <ChaangNoi>	he wont sell shares if the price is .001 or 20 btc   he does not need an exchange
Mar 26 01:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	the time/effort he put into handmanaging email transfers by now is an eyesore in his books
Mar 26 01:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	(which he prolly doesn't actually keep)
Mar 26 01:18:46 <ChaangNoi>	he is letting us trade the shares, he is letting us do PTs
Mar 26 01:19:10 <ChaangNoi>	the time he spends on that is better than a second glbse fail
Mar 26 01:19:21 <ChaangNoi>	he lots a lot of btc and a lot of people lots shares
Mar 26 01:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, he misjudged glbse at  that time.
Mar 26 01:19:34 <mircea_popescu>	this doesn't mean anything about the world
Mar 26 01:19:42 <mircea_popescu>	it just means something about his financial competence.
Mar 26 01:19:57 <ChaangNoi>	he thinks at this time there is not a safe exchange to list at
Mar 26 01:20:07 <toffoo>	actually asicminer was way ahead of the game in predicting glbse's demise ...
Mar 26 01:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	no, he just thinks he doesn't have a clue about such matters.
Mar 26 01:20:13 <ChaangNoi>	i have no problem with the way he is doing things honestly
Mar 26 01:20:19 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, at about the same time asicminer got started i wanted to list mpoe.
Mar 26 01:20:33 <mircea_popescu>	it was obvious to me glbse is going to shit, and so i saw myself forced to make an exchang
Mar 26 01:20:37 <mircea_popescu>	there's a difference.
Mar 26 01:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo notrly.
Mar 26 01:20:55 <toffoo>	yes rly
Mar 26 01:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	they're still 1-2k btc locked in there aren't they
Mar 26 01:21:11 <ChaangNoi>	he is not in the business of making an exchange, his skills is making asics, or if he can do both, the better money for his time is asics
Mar 26 01:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	this is not predicting anything, keeping 1k+ in cash on global scam exchange.
Mar 26 01:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi this fails to explain why he said he was making one.
Mar 26 01:21:28 <ChaangNoi>	glbse was going down hill, nefario was a nutter
Mar 26 01:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	actually... promised to.
Mar 26 01:21:53 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi bitch, quit it. you were his main supporter back in september when i was the only one saying this
Mar 26 01:21:58 <ChaangNoi>	mp he might have started to make one, but found it not safe or that he was too busy making asics to finish
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Mar 26 01:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	no. he promised an exchange, he failed to deliver it, never mentioned it again
Mar 26 01:22:16 <ChaangNoi>	lol yeah nefario and i have always been close
Mar 26 01:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	stop trying to alter history on me, i won't let it pass.
Mar 26 01:22:26 <mircea_popescu>	yes, you have.
Mar 26 01:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	up until he up and kicked you.
Mar 26 01:22:50 <ChaangNoi>	lol you forget when he tried to kick me before?
Mar 26 01:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck do you think, my memory is three months long like the forums ?
Mar 26 01:23:08 <toffoo>	i'd say the forum is < 1 week
Mar 26 01:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo that's a point.
Mar 26 01:24:17 <ChaangNoi>	i called nefario a scammer before he kicked me, and 6 months before that i would not give him my id cuz i said he could not be trusted and his site was not safe.. the forum posts are still there
Mar 26 01:24:27 <ChaangNoi>	he said he was going to kick me but never did, he backed down
Mar 26 01:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157789.msg1677033#msg1677033
Mar 26 01:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	lmao! this is TOTALLY glbse all over again
Mar 26 01:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:26:28 <ChaangNoi>	odd
Mar 26 01:26:40 <tiberiusiv>	how convenient they register in delaware
Mar 26 01:26:51 <ChaangNoi>	well, it is a real company
Mar 26 01:26:55 <tiberiusiv>	most secretive laws regarding corps
Mar 26 01:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	msot everyone registers there
Mar 26 01:27:12 <ChaangNoi>	i would say it is not exactly like glbse and theymos unless there is stuff going on i dont know about
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Mar 26 01:27:14 <tiberiusiv>	yes for tax and secrecy
Mar 26 01:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 26 01:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	and for speed and cheapness and really... that's what delaware does
Mar 26 01:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like idaho and potatoes
Mar 26 01:27:38 <mircea_popescu>	"Looking to borrow 600 BTC @ 3.5% weekly 	ianbakewell" << heh
Mar 26 01:27:55 <toffoo>	nevada is pretty good too (for registering, not potatoes)
Mar 26 01:28:55 <Namworld>	sheesh
Mar 26 01:28:58 <pigeons>	i wonder if bakewell is the guy's rea; name
Mar 26 01:29:02 <ChaangNoi>	ianbakewell is still around? and asking for money? oh lol
Mar 26 01:29:04 <Namworld>	3.5% weekly
Mar 26 01:29:11 <mircea_popescu>	that's the old thread i quoted
Mar 26 01:29:24 <Namworld>	I pay 0.21% weekly and I find that a lot.
Mar 26 01:29:25 <ChaangNoi>	ok
Mar 26 01:29:27 <Bowjob>	its his real name
Mar 26 01:29:35 <ChaangNoi>	so?
Mar 26 01:29:43 <ChaangNoi>	lots of scammers used their real name
Mar 26 01:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	bernie maddoff did
Mar 26 01:30:03 <pigeons>	i asked cause its humorous. i know its bad form to make fun of a fellow's name
Mar 26 01:30:12 <pigeons>	mernie madoff is funny one too
Mar 26 01:30:13 <Bowjob>	the moment of truth for ian is 29th of march
Mar 26 01:30:26 <Bowjob>	thats his 1st cheduled payment
Mar 26 01:30:47 <tiberiusiv>	he can only make it if the btc price is down
Mar 26 01:30:48 <Namworld>	He actually got the 600 BTC?
Mar 26 01:31:01 <Bowjob>	yes
Mar 26 01:31:05 <Namworld>	what did he spent that on?
Mar 26 01:31:06 <ChaangNoi>	he picked a bad time to short btc
Mar 26 01:31:13 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld he shorted btc at 30
Mar 26 01:31:13 <Bowjob>	and it says on his sig, short btc at 34.50
Mar 26 01:31:16 <tiberiusiv>	namworld shorted btc
Mar 26 01:31:18 <pigeons>	when does he have to rebuy his S.DICE shares too? you know he hasn't done that yet
Mar 26 01:31:18 <Bowjob>	that hurts like a bitch
Mar 26 01:31:18 <Namworld>	oh...
Mar 26 01:31:27 <Bowjob>	thats may
Mar 26 01:31:29 <Bowjob>	in may
Mar 26 01:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons prolly after they go to 80
Mar 26 01:31:41 <Bowjob>	TF is on the receiving end of that share short
Mar 26 01:31:43 <Namworld>	25,200 USD lost at 72 USD/BTC
Mar 26 01:31:49 <Namworld>	600x42
Mar 26 01:31:54 <Bowjob>	he did well at shorting s.dice
Mar 26 01:31:56 <tiberiusiv>	hence him defaulting
Mar 26 01:31:57 <Bowjob>	btc? not so much
Mar 26 01:31:59 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 26 01:32:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.66999, Best ask: 74.67000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 74.67000, 24 hour volume: 81024.62335997, 24 hour low: 71.25319, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.68722
Mar 26 01:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	did he even say what his s.dice short cost basis was ?
Mar 26 01:32:09 <Bowjob>	it was 0.62
Mar 26 01:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	a then he's ahead there
Mar 26 01:32:19 <Bowjob>	cuz fuck the extra zeros
Mar 26 01:32:28 <mircea_popescu>	then be consistent, say 62
Mar 26 01:32:32 <tiberiusiv>	sdice is too dangerous to short because voorhees has 90% of them and can always manipulate earnings
Mar 26 01:32:39 <Bowjob>	or .62
Mar 26 01:32:49 <mircea_popescu>	just two digit most relevant works imo
Mar 26 01:33:03 <Namworld>	20k BTC till 95 USD/BTC ...
Mar 26 01:33:06 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees can simply use his buying power to bully short sellers into massive losses
Mar 26 01:33:08 <pigeons>	well he's trying to have less than 90%, he's working on it
Mar 26 01:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	btc is 74, sdice is 45 and smpoe 68 or w/e
Mar 26 01:33:23 <Bowjob>	tiber, more conspiracy theories please
Mar 26 01:33:23 <tiberiusiv>	pigeons: hell have to fake more playing
Mar 26 01:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv that's really a discredited argument you know.
Mar 26 01:33:49 <tiberiusiv>	no it isnt.
Mar 26 01:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	right. because you'd know.
Mar 26 01:33:58 <pigeons>	tiberiusiv: that's an unproven allegation that we've all been over. we're all interested only if you have some proof
Mar 26 01:33:59 <tiberiusiv>	if it was, voorhees wouldnt still have 90% of shares.
Mar 26 01:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	think for a moment. if he has 90% of the shares or if he has 500k BTC it's all the same.
Mar 26 01:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	plenty of people can bully shorts if they chose to.
Mar 26 01:34:17 <tiberiusiv>	the proof is that more people arent willing to buy shares
Mar 26 01:34:23 <ChaangNoi>	hokers and blow odds are
Mar 26 01:34:23 <ChaangNoi>	seems to be what most do
Mar 26 01:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's not how proof works, that's how circular arguments work.
Mar 26 01:34:42 <tiberiusiv>	mp: id expect you to defend him since your own operations are beyond shady as well.
Mar 26 01:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	you know there's a long history of hotheads with nothing to show just like yourself tried that entire approach.
Mar 26 01:35:11 <mircea_popescu>	i'm still here.
Mar 26 01:35:15 <tiberiusiv>	mpex is what 95% owned by you? theres no way to tell how many of your "options" trades are real
Mar 26 01:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	88%
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Mar 26 01:35:41 <tiberiusiv>	you only need to get rid of 10-20% shares at inflated valuations to pocket millions
Mar 26 01:35:43 <tiberiusiv>	to gullible idiots
Mar 26 01:35:43 <toffoo>	that's bill gates and warren buffet of btc right there
Mar 26 01:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	stop running around the field. the point of discussion here is that the holding % makes no difference.
Mar 26 01:35:56 <mircea_popescu>	if i have 500k btc in cash and you short something,
Mar 26 01:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	ANYTHING
Mar 26 01:36:02 <mircea_popescu>	i can burn you.
Mar 26 01:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	it's immaterial if this wealth is in shares or btc or anything.
Mar 26 01:36:20 <tiberiusiv>	yea and you have proceeds from the existing share sales
Mar 26 01:36:24 <tiberiusiv>	so does voorhees
Mar 26 01:36:26 <tiberiusiv>	to burn shorts.
Mar 26 01:36:34 <tiberiusiv>	that was my entire point
Mar 26 01:36:42 <mircea_popescu>	right. so basically your argument reduces to "we can't short bcause we don't control the money supply"
Mar 26 01:36:45 <mircea_popescu>	this is true, you don't.
Mar 26 01:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	however, needing this argument shows your shorts are a power play, not a market play.
Mar 26 01:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	and it is all as it should be : you aren't the ones in power for a very good reason.
Mar 26 01:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	that reason is that you suck, however packaged
Mar 26 01:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	that you're new, or clueless, or haven't done anything worth the mention.
Mar 26 01:37:27 <tiberiusiv>	fact is this, sdice has been around about 1 year now and is so "profitable" yet voorhees cant sell more shares.
Mar 26 01:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	power always concentrates in the hand of the elders, and the productive, and the smart.
Mar 26 01:37:39 <tiberiusiv>	same with mpex and its 30mil of notional contracts
Mar 26 01:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	you presume "can't".
Mar 26 01:37:48 <tiberiusiv>	yet nobody wants the shares in mass.
Mar 26 01:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	dude srsly.
Mar 26 01:37:59 <tiberiusiv>	however a verified business like cavirtex sells out in a few hours.
Mar 26 01:38:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.74 = 2.22 BTC [+]
Mar 26 01:38:05 <mircea_popescu>	fiction is one thing, but you're veering into delusion.
Mar 26 01:38:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Mar 26 01:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 26 01:38:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062546 / 0.000641 / 0.00066783 (305707 shares, 195.96 BTC), 7D: 0.00062546 / 0.00069767 / 0.00077505 (2232450 shares, 1,557.51 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00072244 / 0.00078628 (31470843 shares, 22,735.98 BTC)
Mar 26 01:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock vtx
Mar 26 01:38:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.50000000 / 0.71964458 / 0.79900000 (408 shares, 293.61499054 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.41994834 / 0.79900000 (11169 shares, 4690.40300358 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.41994834 / 0.79900000 (11169 shares, 4690.40300358 BTC)
Mar 26 01:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	compare 22k to 4k btc.
Mar 26 01:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	do you get it now ?
Mar 26 01:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	and this was on their motherfucking ipo.
Mar 26 01:38:32 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: i am? you only need to dump 10-20% of your grossly overvalued shares to pocket millions
Mar 26 01:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	except i'm not doing it, because they're not overvalued.
Mar 26 01:38:48 <tiberiusiv>	virtex does a small % of volume compared to what you claim you do
Mar 26 01:38:56 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't sell my state in s.mpoe for 50mn usd in cash today.
Mar 26 01:39:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65508 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:39:05 <tiberiusiv>	yea right
Mar 26 01:39:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6432 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 26 01:39:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 01:39:33 <mircea_popescu>	if anything, i'm oversold. s.mpoe is  on the long term worth more than jpm.
Mar 26 01:39:47 <toffoo>	quote of the day?
Mar 26 01:39:47 <tiberiusiv>	yea with all of its 1 unique asset
Mar 26 01:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo totally.
Mar 26 01:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv it's unique asset is me.
Mar 26 01:40:04 <toffoo>	put it in your sig
Mar 26 01:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	jpm doesn't have a mp equivalent for the fiat space.
Mar 26 01:40:18 <tiberiusiv>	mp: yes the typical sociopathic quotes.
Mar 26 01:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	since morgan's unfortunate demise early 1900s
Mar 26 01:41:39 <tiberiusiv>	mp: and you being in one of the largest fraud centers of the world doesn't help your case either.
Mar 26 01:41:46 <tiberiusiv>	romania.
Mar 26 01:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	right, because this is thinking.
Mar 26 01:42:15 <pigeons>	jp, jr
Mar 26 01:42:20 <tiberiusiv>	mp: 10-20% of your shares get sold you pocket millions, on a business where nobody can verify actual activity on.
Mar 26 01:42:31 <ChaangNoi>	lol cuz he is in romania must be scam? facepalm
Mar 26 01:42:32 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Mar 26 01:42:32 <tiberiusiv>	anyone can bot up options trades.
Mar 26 01:42:33 <mircea_popescu>	this is btc.
Mar 26 01:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	the entire point of btc is that nobody can "verify".
Mar 26 01:42:48 <ChaangNoi>	im in thailand, i must be a lady boy right? lol
Mar 26 01:42:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.61 = 2.44 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	which is all the better, let the wannabe "verificators" mind their own business.
Mar 26 01:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.66 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:43:14 <tiberiusiv>	chaangnoi: thats why nby credible wants to list on his exchange, romania is internet fraud capital.
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Mar 26 01:43:22 <mircea_popescu>	and to be clear : tyhis isn't a "case" im making. this is a political statement.
Mar 26 01:43:31 <tiberiusiv>	yes another drawback
Mar 26 01:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is exactly about raping the sort of bs you're sprouting.
Mar 26 01:43:43 <tiberiusiv>	customers dont want to hear political statements.
Mar 26 01:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	i don't need to persuade you that btc is worth something, or that mpoe is worth someting.
Mar 26 01:43:49 <ChaangNoi>	lol there are reasons not to use his excahnge, being in romaina is not one of them
Mar 26 01:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	i'll justg mind my own business indefinitely and you come crawling whenever you're done lubing yourself up.
Mar 26 01:44:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [+]
Mar 26 01:44:27 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: of course you will, you have no problem taking the slow and steady approach of selling worthless shares over a longer time period.
Mar 26 01:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	but the fact alone that the "mpoe is worthless" argument reduces to a "btc is worthless" defeated argument from 2011
Mar 26 01:44:36 <tiberiusiv>	why make 1mil when you can make 10
Mar 26 01:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	already is good enough.
Mar 26 01:44:57 <tiberiusiv>	btc code can be viewed by anyone
Mar 26 01:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Mar 26 01:45:08 <tiberiusiv>	mpex cant be.
Mar 26 01:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 26 01:45:20 <tiberiusiv>	nobody knows how much of your supposed tens of millions in options is fake.
Mar 26 01:45:22 <mircea_popescu>	your argument cvhanged from "i can't verify the identity of users"
Mar 26 01:45:30 <tiberiusiv>	hence why you still own 90%
Mar 26 01:45:41 <tiberiusiv>	i never argued identify of users
Mar 26 01:45:45 <tiberiusiv>	users mean nothing.
Mar 26 01:45:49 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 26 01:45:58 <tiberiusiv>	nobody on here can verify ANY of the trades/volume mpex does.
Mar 26 01:46:03 <mircea_popescu>	nobody knows how much of your supposed tens of millions in options is fake. <<< IDENTITY OF USERS
Mar 26 01:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	think more. speak less.\
Mar 26 01:46:10 <tiberiusiv>	hence why you still own 90% of the company
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Mar 26 01:46:46 <tiberiusiv>	i am thinking.
Mar 26 01:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	the only reason i own 88% of mpoe is tghat i didn't sell more.
Mar 26 01:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	if one day you actually read the statements you'll see it;'s been going down since 99.5% last year.
Mar 26 01:47:07 <tiberiusiv>	right same with voorhees
Mar 26 01:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	there's clear statements made as to plans, they've been followed, etc.
Mar 26 01:47:14 <tiberiusiv>	im not denying that
Mar 26 01:47:22 <tiberiusiv>	why wouldnt it be? you need suckers to pay the $
Mar 26 01:47:28 <ChaangNoi>	tiberiusiv sounds like you are jelly :/
Mar 26 01:47:28 <mircea_popescu>	yes dude. just like btc.
Mar 26 01:47:41 <tiberiusiv>	nobody issues btc
Mar 26 01:47:44 <tiberiusiv>	you issue mpex stock.
Mar 26 01:47:47 <tiberiusiv>	clear difference
Mar 26 01:47:51 <mircea_popescu>	that's done already.
Mar 26 01:47:56 <tiberiusiv>	btc can be auditied you cant be
Mar 26 01:48:02 <ChaangNoi>	if you dont like the stock dont buy it, how is that hard?
Mar 26 01:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	actually one of the main likely reasons mpoe is worth a lot is exactly that : btc has inflation
Mar 26 01:48:07 <mircea_popescu>	s.mpoe does not.
Mar 26 01:48:19 <tiberiusiv>	sure it does
Mar 26 01:48:21 <mircea_popescu>	so mpoe is becoming / became already the t-bills of btc.
Mar 26 01:48:26 <tiberiusiv>	the 88% of shares that havent been dumped yet
Mar 26 01:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	those are issued already.
Mar 26 01:48:43 <tiberiusiv>	they arent in the market
Mar 26 01:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	you're arguing both sides.
Mar 26 01:49:06 <Namworld>	that they are or not doesn't change the dividend per share...
Mar 26 01:49:11 <mircea_popescu>	if indeed they are worthless then yes they are in the market, burning a hole in my pockets.
Mar 26 01:49:26 <tiberiusiv>	you cant sell them becuase there is no bids yet, once you inflate the mpex earnings through faking nearly everything mpex related, bids(gullible idiots) will show up to pay you
Mar 26 01:49:37 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Mar 26 01:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	go harass google, seriously.
Mar 26 01:49:53 <ChaangNoi>	lol there are not 10 million bids for btc right now either, lol
Mar 26 01:50:07 <ChaangNoi>	btc must be a scam
Mar 26 01:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	just as soon as your corp reaches 50mn dollars valuation there's people with nothing in their pocket telling you how your capitalist way are scamming the world
Mar 26 01:50:10 <tiberiusiv>	btc is completely different
Mar 26 01:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	totally, yeah.
Mar 26 01:50:19 <tiberiusiv>	then a stock exchange listing worthless shares
Mar 26 01:50:25 <tiberiusiv>	of unverifiable companies
Mar 26 01:50:32 <mircea_popescu>	the emperor tiberius has accepted btc, but not mpoe, so this makes them different
Mar 26 01:50:33 <tiberiusiv>	anyone can verify BTC integrity
Mar 26 01:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	in relevant ways.
Mar 26 01:50:40 <ChaangNoi>	dont buy the stock if you dont like it, clearly someone lkes it
Mar 26 01:50:46 <tiberiusiv>	of course they do
Mar 26 01:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	short it for that matter
Mar 26 01:50:53 <tiberiusiv>	theres a gullible idiot born every minute
Mar 26 01:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	o wait no, he can't short it cause i have money.
Mar 26 01:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	and he doesn't.
Mar 26 01:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	but he's totally right.
Mar 26 01:51:00 <tiberiusiv>	he only needs to dump a small % to get filthy rich
Mar 26 01:51:14 <tiberiusiv>	and in romania, identities are sold by the cart load
Mar 26 01:51:15 <ChaangNoi>	in btc land stupid people get to do stupid things with their money, i love freedom
Mar 26 01:51:23 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv seriously : if you had a clue you wouldn't be talkign, you would be showing.
Mar 26 01:51:35 <ChaangNoi>	tiberiusiv how many years have you spent in romania learning their ways?
Mar 26 01:51:53 <tiberiusiv>	chaangnoi: my good friend was from his city
Mar 26 01:52:00 <tiberiusiv>	timisoara
Mar 26 01:52:07 <ChaangNoi>	so you are an expert about all romanians?
Mar 26 01:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	ya, well, then he can prolly tell you all about how trilema was the most read romanian blog for years
Mar 26 01:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	since 2009 actually.
Mar 26 01:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	whatever happened to eskimobob incidentally ?
Mar 26 01:55:10 <ChaangNoi>	.75 seems to be the new AM pt price as a high
Mar 26 01:55:27 <ChaangNoi>	not shocked people are selling after the .1 was paid out
Mar 26 01:55:30 <maximian>	mircea_popescu I was wondering the same thing. eskimobob = tiberius?
Mar 26 01:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	maximian nah, im pretty sure they're different.
Mar 26 01:55:43 <tiberiusiv>	i dont know who that is
Mar 26 01:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, still the same 20 something aspirational kid, but eskimobob was kinda esl.
Mar 26 01:56:11 <maximian>	yeah, and he was more into muttering to himself
Mar 26 01:56:12 <mircea_popescu>	tiberiusiv the previous installment of "i won't read because i know better scammors!"
Mar 26 01:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6077 @ 0.00064056 = 3.8927 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1823 @ 0.00063515 = 1.1579 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:57:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.452 = 1.356 BTC [-]
Mar 26 01:57:10 <ChaangNoi>	i did not buy s.dice cuz i think it was a long term investment, but im fine if others want to buy it,
Mar 26 01:57:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.695 BTC [+]
Mar 26 01:57:29 <ChaangNoi>	bad*
Mar 26 01:57:58 <tiberiusiv>	chaangnoi: i dont care what others do with their $, both sdice and all the mp assets are shady as hell by anyone with 2 IQ points.
Mar 26 01:58:12 <ChaangNoi>	then do like me, and dont buy them
Mar 26 01:58:19 <ChaangNoi>	its not hard
Mar 26 01:58:29 <Bowjob>	hey mp, ur fuckup adria comp, its 1 person per shot
Mar 26 01:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Mar 26 01:58:40 <Bowjob>	k
Mar 26 01:58:40 <ChaangNoi>	why are you so butt hurt he found peopleto buy them?
Mar 26 01:58:41 <mircea_popescu>	can do as many as you please.
Mar 26 01:58:49 <Bowjob>	i found a a good idea
Mar 26 01:58:50 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 26 01:58:57 <tiberiusiv>	chaangnoi: im not. just voicing an opinion
Mar 26 01:59:11 <ChaangNoi>	about romanians = scammers :)
Mar 26 01:59:13 <tiberiusiv>	if he gets away with it all the power to him, just like madoff victims have only themselves to blame
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Mar 26 01:59:31 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 26 01:59:41 <tiberiusiv>	chaangnoi: not all romanians are scammers but that area breeds a huge % of them per capita, not to mention all sorts of other criminals they scatter all around europe.
Mar 26 01:59:59 <ChaangNoi>	i love the freedom in btc land, people get to do what they want. mp is not forcing anyone to do anything
Mar 26 02:00:18 <tiberiusiv>	neither did madoff
Mar 26 02:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	nor serghey brin
Mar 26 02:00:40 <ChaangNoi>	you know.. using btc might be thought of as a crime... maybe mp is a crimanal too, after all did he register his exchange? bow down to the govt, lulz
Mar 26 02:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	how do you pick your examples ?
Mar 26 02:01:06 <tiberiusiv>	using btc is no different then using anything as money
Mar 26 02:01:32 <ChaangNoi>	did you pay sales tax when you use btc? you are crimanal too!
Mar 26 02:01:36 <tiberiusiv>	not to even bring up mp's rather disgusting/shady porn dealings
Mar 26 02:01:54 <ChaangNoi>	oh no! sex! must be criminal
Mar 26 02:01:57 <tiberiusiv>	pimping girls is another thing romanians are notorious for in europe
Mar 26 02:02:10 <ChaangNoi>	as long as there is concent why do you care?
Mar 26 02:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	o, i was wondering when we get to that line of nonsense.
Mar 26 02:02:41 <tiberiusiv>	romanian hookers are dirt cheap because its poor girls that are easy to take advantage of
Mar 26 02:02:52 <tiberiusiv>	they are sent all over EU by their handlers to top bidders
Mar 26 02:03:01 <toffoo>	I prefer the term "good value"
Mar 26 02:03:09 <mircea_popescu>	you know, the sad thing with this "community" or w/e it is is that naysayers are too stupid/lazy to make good arguments.
Mar 26 02:03:15 <ChaangNoi>	take advantage of, like giving them a job to make good money? yeah... lol they should just starve to death or the govt should hand them piles of money cuz whatever
Mar 26 02:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	they become trivially easy to defeat, much to the benefit of actual scams
Mar 26 02:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	if the girl weren't on the forum people like the bitbillions guy would probably have the run of it.
Mar 26 02:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	im getting sick of having to pay to show people how naysaying is done right
Mar 26 02:03:41 <tiberiusiv>	mircea you havent defeated any arguement
Mar 26 02:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	just to not have anyone actually learn anything out of it.
Mar 26 02:04:10 <tiberiusiv>	if theres smoke theres probably a fire.
Mar 26 02:04:14 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Mar 26 02:04:29 <ChaangNoi>	freemarket
Mar 26 02:04:34 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 26 02:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	mixed bag.
Mar 26 02:04:44 <tiberiusiv>	human stupidity has no upper limits
Mar 26 02:05:00 <ChaangNoi>	you are proving that to us very well
Mar 26 02:05:24 <ChaangNoi>	anyway im out for a while, good trading all
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Mar 26 02:06:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.10899 = 0.436 BTC [+]
Mar 26 02:11:42 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 26 02:11:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.07007, Best ask: 75.88870, Bid-ask spread: 0.81863, Last trade: 75.07004, 24 hour volume: 81261.23957830, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.73248
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Mar 26 02:17:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00447 = 0.447 BTC [+]
Mar 26 02:18:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 61 @ 0.00448 = 0.2733 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 02:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 26 02:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 48.45538965 / 71.84497777 / 78.24284189 (49175 shares, 4,680.64 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 26 02:28:43 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 26 02:28:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.49001, Best ask: 75.58000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 75.49000, 24 hour volume: 81153.14011718, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.73700
Mar 26 02:30:25 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob you got a reddit ?
Mar 26 02:30:36 <Bowjob>	a reddit account, yes
Mar 26 02:30:44 <mircea_popescu>	be a sport and put adria article up ?
Mar 26 02:30:48 <mircea_popescu>	need moar entrants wtf.
Mar 26 02:31:35 <Bowjob>	Umm.. I'd get killed if I post that there
Mar 26 02:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	haha ok
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Mar 26 02:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	gotta find someone with iron undies
Mar 26 02:32:10 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 26 02:32:15 <Bowjob>	Fine, I'll post it.
Mar 26 02:32:28 <mircea_popescu>	eh don't ruin your life
Mar 26 02:32:55 <Bowjob>	I don't really post much there anyways,
Mar 26 02:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	just as long as you won't end up fired or something
Mar 26 02:36:05 <Bowjob>	"I've never seen a fire truck that needed to be shaved before. F"
Mar 26 02:36:07 <Bowjob>	Is this you?
Mar 26 02:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Mar 26 02:36:44 <mircea_popescu>	that sounds like a maddox quote
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Mar 26 02:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	where is it?
Mar 26 02:36:54 <Bowjob>	yes it is a maddox quote
Mar 26 02:37:02 <Bowjob>	on the thread duh
Mar 26 02:37:10 <Bowjob>	i think theres only 3 players so far
Mar 26 02:37:21 <Bowjob>	the last 3 are the same person trying to pretend as 3 people
Mar 26 02:37:28 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, there's stuff there!
Mar 26 02:37:32 <Bowjob>	duh
Mar 26 02:37:44 <Bowjob>	not the last 3, the last 3 before the last one
Mar 26 02:37:46 <Bowjob>	which is mine
Mar 26 02:37:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol cool
Mar 26 02:38:02 <Bowjob>	you should get more now, i posted it
Mar 26 02:38:16 <mircea_popescu>	link ?
Mar 26 02:38:33 <Bowjob>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b11il/nsfw_photoshop_contest/
Mar 26 02:38:37 *	mircea_popescu puts on trollhat prepares trollcorn gets ready for comment flood
Mar 26 02:38:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+]
Mar 26 02:38:43 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 26 02:38:53 <Bowjob>	i enjoyed the short monopoly i had on the contest
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Mar 26 02:39:05 <Bowjob>	since the second pic does not depict rape, i would win all the prize lolz
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Mar 26 02:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 26 02:40:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Mar 26 02:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsnmeqaA1C1qgs2k5o1_400.jpg
Mar 26 02:41:44 <Bowjob>	on your article you misspelled photoshop
Mar 26 02:41:53 <Bowjob>	i doubt people would spot it tho
Mar 26 02:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	i did ?
Mar 26 02:42:21 <Bowjob>	you spelled it as photochop
Mar 26 02:42:42 <mircea_popescu>	did you see the later update ?
Mar 26 02:42:43 <Bowjob>	and not sure with the capital S in the middle
Mar 26 02:43:05 <Bowjob>	oh, i see
Mar 26 02:43:26 <Bowjob>	 The article originally used the word “photochop
Mar 26 02:43:51 <Bowjob>	you know..
Mar 26 02:44:08 <Bowjob>	my teached back in hs, raised the same issue. The "correct" term is photo-edit
Mar 26 02:44:21 <mircea_popescu>	no it's not.
Mar 26 02:44:24 <Bowjob>	no one gave a shit and called it photoshopping anyway
Mar 26 02:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	photoshop. fuck adobe.
Mar 26 02:44:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00492 = 0.0098 BTC [+]
Mar 26 02:44:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 93 @ 0.00495 = 0.4604 BTC [+]
Mar 26 02:44:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 318 @ 0.00495 = 1.5741 BTC [+]
Mar 26 02:44:47 <Bowjob>	she told us to "get creative" if we couldnt afford photoshop
Mar 26 02:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	like... gimp ?
Mar 26 02:45:12 <Bowjob>	nah she was referring to piracy
Mar 26 02:45:25 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Mar 26 02:45:33 <Bowjob>	its been so many years now i forgot how to photoshop
Mar 26 02:45:59 <Bowjob>	i remember i recreated this pic
Mar 26 02:45:59 <Bowjob>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voroshilov,_Molotov,_Stalin,_with_Nikolai_Yezhov.jpg
Mar 26 02:46:09 <Bowjob>	i made the dude on stalin's right disappear
Mar 26 02:46:23 <Bowjob>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Commissar_Vanishes_2.jpg
Mar 26 02:46:25 <Bowjob>	to that
Mar 26 02:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 26 02:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	the soviets did that.
Mar 26 02:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4759 @ 0.00063515 = 3.0227 BTC [-]
Mar 26 02:47:17 <Bowjob>	i was wondering how the hell did they do that back then
Mar 26 02:47:24 <Bowjob>	photoshop.. 0.00001?
Mar 26 02:47:27 <mircea_popescu>	by hand
Mar 26 02:47:30 <mircea_popescu>	same way bills were forged
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Mar 26 02:48:08 <Bowjob>	looks legit, actually. considering the quality of photgraphs back then
Mar 26 02:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	yea
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Mar 26 03:05:23 <Bowjob>	here you go mp
Mar 26 03:05:23 <Bowjob>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/18679.html
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Mar 26 03:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 26 03:08:45 <mircea_popescu>	some of these are pretty bad too
Mar 26 03:10:06 <Bowjob>	the last one looks like you
Mar 26 03:10:08 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 26 03:10:12 <toffoo>	i got all pumped up to win $750 bux .. then realized I don't have photoshop installed anymore
Mar 26 03:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	so get gimp
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Mar 26 03:10:54 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob no it doesn't, my cock is huger.
Mar 26 03:11:02 <Bowjob>	ah, my bad
Mar 26 03:11:03 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 26 03:11:40 <Bowjob>	these redditors downvoted my post, yet we got some new traffic
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Mar 26 03:11:57 <Bowjob>	its either from people here or redditors downvoted my post and joined your contest
Mar 26 03:12:47 <Bowjob>	adria looks like a human poodle
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Mar 26 03:24:18 <Bowjob>	mp. wheres that pic of buttcoin
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Mar 26 03:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	which one ?
Mar 26 03:25:18 <mircea_popescu>	""Rape is fun..."
Mar 26 03:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	That's not cool."
Mar 26 03:25:34 <mircea_popescu>	i recall this carlin bit, "according to 90% of participants, gangrape is great fun"
Mar 26 03:25:51 <Bowjob>	the one where mpoe-pr made this dude shove a pen up his ass
Mar 26 03:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	o
Mar 26 03:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/17150.html
Mar 26 03:26:29 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 26 03:27:27 <Bowjob>	ah, the power of buttcoins
Mar 26 03:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	"o, bitcoin is worthless because i can't buy anything with it"
Mar 26 03:27:49 <toffoo>	so I went on reddit to upvote your contest,
Mar 26 03:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	but then downvoted it insteadf
Mar 26 03:28:16 <toffoo>	and oh dear I didn't notice your favorite bitcoin spokesperson got some more free press again last friday:
Mar 26 03:28:17 <Namworld>	;;bids
Mar 26 03:28:17 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Mar 26 03:28:18 <toffoo>	http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/video/2013/mar/22/bitcoin-currency-video
Mar 26 03:28:20 <Namworld>	;;bids 0
Mar 26 03:28:23 <gribble>	There are currently 36697167 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8721857.08948 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0167 seconds
Mar 26 03:28:44 <toffoo>	he plays the role of "squatter" so incredibly well
Mar 26 03:28:57 <toffoo>	i power laughed at this video
Mar 26 03:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo dub already mentioned it. it's funny how most of the guy's following consists of people surprised he's still alive.
Mar 26 03:30:03 <toffoo>	now that is grungy
Mar 26 03:30:21 <toffoo>	clearly that abandoned office block has no running shower
Mar 26 03:30:34 <Bowjob>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136428266447.jpg
Mar 26 03:30:37 <Bowjob>	worst pic ever
Mar 26 03:30:51 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 26 03:30:55 <mircea_popescu>	somebody found my cock.
Mar 26 03:31:07 <Bowjob>	whoever did that, gratz. you've outdone me
Mar 26 03:31:24 <Bowjob>	mp, im pretty sure thats a vanilla pod
Mar 26 03:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob :
Mar 26 03:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;google trilema pula mea
Mar 26 03:31:35 <gribble>	Cum se protesteaza corect - continuare ilustrativa pe Trilema - Un ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/cum-se-protesteaza-corect-continuare-ilustrativa/>; Brigada Diverse in alerta pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/brigada-diverse-in-alerta/>; Noi scrisori din Liliput pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: (1 more message)
Mar 26 03:31:40 <mircea_popescu>	jesus
Mar 26 03:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is this so brojken
Mar 26 03:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/nsfw-pula-mea/
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Mar 26 03:32:31 <Bowjob>	Oh.. i see
Mar 26 03:32:32 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 26 03:32:35 <Bowjob>	clever
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Mar 26 03:33:21 <Bowjob>	so its not a vanilla pod
Mar 26 03:33:45 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's my epeen
Mar 26 03:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	in 2010
Mar 26 03:34:42 <Bowjob>	did it grow these past 3 years
Mar 26 03:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
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Mar 26 03:38:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Mar 26 03:39:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Mar 26 03:40:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Mar 26 03:41:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Mar 26 03:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.75 = 3.75 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 03:49:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.34999 = 2.7999 BTC [+]
Mar 26 03:55:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009993 BTC [-]
Mar 26 03:56:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 22 @ 0.009994 = 0.2199 BTC [+]
Mar 26 03:57:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009994 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Mar 26 03:59:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.75 = 6 BTC [+]
Mar 26 03:59:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00441 = 0.0662 BTC [-]
Mar 26 03:59:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 80 @ 0.00441 = 0.3528 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 04:02:09 <jurov>	hi mircea_popescu, when we can exppect bitbet payouts?
Mar 26 04:02:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 31 @ 0.0044 = 0.1364 BTC [-]
Mar 26 04:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	hm, anything pending?
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Mar 26 04:04:28 <jurov>	http://bitbet.us/bet/39/network-difficulty-under-6-million/ and at least 2 similar
Mar 26 04:05:29 <jurov>	no the ohers are for 12 and 20 million, they better wait
Mar 26 04:06:03 <mircea_popescu>	ah. presently.
Mar 26 04:07:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00414 = 0.029 BTC [-]
Mar 26 04:07:31 <jurov>	who has done them? if you did, do you plan to create new ones?
Mar 26 04:08:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00413 = 0.0578 BTC [-]
Mar 26 04:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't do them
Mar 26 04:08:17 <mircea_popescu>	but prolly a good idea for such bets anyway
Mar 26 04:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	also : introducing the reverse mpex http://mpex.co/?r=1
Mar 26 04:09:13 <jurov>	haha looks even more like 1995
Mar 26 04:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Mar 26 04:11:46 <Bowjob>	it looks good for nighttime trading
Mar 26 04:11:47 <Bowjob>	but..
Mar 26 04:11:49 <Bowjob>	the dark blue hurts
Mar 26 04:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 26 04:12:04 <Bowjob>	perhaps switch to yellow, ala bestpageinteuniverse?
Mar 26 04:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 26 04:12:47 <mircea_popescu>	maybe baby blue ?
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Mar 26 04:14:39 <jurov>	or green
Mar 26 04:15:04 <jurov>	to support bullish mood
Mar 26 04:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	green'd be an idea lessee
Mar 26 04:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.0689697 = 68.9697 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 04:16:24 <toffoo>	looks like bloomberg!
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Mar 26 04:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/?r=1 bettar ?
Mar 26 04:18:47 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 26 04:18:50 <Bowjob>	the only prob is
Mar 26 04:18:59 <Bowjob>	it hurts us when we switch from mpex to irc
Mar 26 04:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
Mar 26 04:19:17 <Bowjob>	its a meta prob, nothing to do with site
Mar 26 04:19:21 <Namworld>	Hmm... did you process two deposit for me mircea? I get confused with all the buying/selling
Mar 26 04:19:23 <Bowjob>	since our eyes would get used to it
Mar 26 04:19:23 <jurov>	Bowjob, ur irc client doesn't have dark skin?
Mar 26 04:19:28 <Bowjob>	irc?
Mar 26 04:19:30 <Namworld>	I've been doing
Mar 26 04:19:32 <Namworld>	urgh...
Mar 26 04:19:35 <Bowjob>	i dunno how to do that
Mar 26 04:19:37 <Namworld>	Hmm...
Mar 26 04:19:49 <Bowjob>	;;darkskin
Mar 26 04:19:49 <Namworld>	Yeah, looks like it.
Mar 26 04:19:49 <gribble>	Error: "darkskin" is not a valid command.
Mar 26 04:19:54 <Bowjob>	;;help
Mar 26 04:19:54 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Mar 26 04:20:23 <jurov>	don't think gribble can do it... he seems caucasian
Mar 26 04:21:40 *	mircea_popescu looks
Mar 26 04:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	nothing pending.
Mar 26 04:22:39 <Namworld>	Yeah, looks like it was processed
Mar 26 04:23:05 <Namworld>	Looking at the list of sales/purchases on my command line, seems like my two deposits are in there now.
Mar 26 04:24:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00063515 = 2.4136 BTC [-]
Mar 26 04:25:15 <Namworld>	Price looks on the rise. I got some calls. I'm all good.
Mar 26 04:26:40 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: hehe better get used to the bot doing all the buying/selling ;)
Mar 26 04:26:44 <jurov>	Namworld, which client are you using? pympex logs by default now
Mar 26 04:27:27 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 26 04:27:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.21001, Best ask: 76.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28999, Last trade: 76.50000, 24 hour volume: 81138.77068508, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.80606
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Mar 26 04:28:45 <Namworld>	windows old client
Mar 26 04:29:07 <Namworld>	I guess
Mar 26 04:29:22 <Namworld>	Is the latest pympex ported to windows yet?
Mar 26 04:30:02 <Namworld>	Does that mean it calculates deposits and transactions appearing on stats now?
Mar 26 04:31:19 <jurov>	no it just does some calculation on new orders
Mar 26 04:32:19 <Namworld>	ah
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Mar 26 04:35:26 <jurov>	dunno why it's such a problem with win... anyone tried the dotnet one?
Mar 26 04:35:37 <jurov>	ironpython or however they call it
Mar 26 04:36:21 <Namworld>	;;bids 0
Mar 26 04:36:24 <gribble>	There are currently 36702157 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8834463.93001 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0180 seconds
Mar 26 04:36:39 <Namworld>	We're getting closer to 9 million USD in bids
Mar 26 04:38:30 <jurov>	but it's a bit meaningless. maybe gribble could say "but there are only 11m btc in circulation so if they sold then..."
Mar 26 04:38:36 <jurov>	;;sell 11000000
Mar 26 04:38:37 <gribble>	(sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include expression of (1 more message)
Mar 26 04:39:04 <jurov>	;;market sell 11000000
Mar 26 04:39:08 <gribble>	A market order to sell 11000000 bitcoins right now would net 8836647.0718 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 0.8033 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0160 seconds
Mar 26 04:39:37 <Namworld>	8834463.93001 vs 8836647.0718 hmm...
Mar 26 04:39:41 <jurov>	ic
Mar 26 04:39:50 <Namworld>	I guess bids increased again... but anyway
Mar 26 04:40:36 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 26 04:40:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.46001, Best ask: 76.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 76.50000, 24 hour volume: 81081.40171129, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.81300
Mar 26 04:40:37 <Namworld>	It's just an very, very general estimation of funds on MtGox. There's still the USD standing idle/not on bids
Mar 26 04:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00064816 = 5.1529 BTC [+]
Mar 26 04:40:52 <Namworld>	You know there's at least as much USD as the bids.
Mar 26 04:42:31 <jurov>	yes it's impressive anyway
Mar 26 04:42:59 <Namworld>	Well it's ridiculous as far as I care.
Mar 26 04:45:51 <tiberiusiv>	theres still very little liquidity even at this market cap.
Mar 26 04:46:48 <Namworld>	Well true enough
Mar 26 04:47:23 <tiberiusiv>	the bitcoin wealth distribution is pretty bad too
Mar 26 04:47:40 <tiberiusiv>	top 410 adresses are 40%~ of btc
Mar 26 04:47:41 <Namworld>	Well it tend to flow a certain way...
Mar 26 04:48:02 <Namworld>	Ex: public -> SatoshiDice
Mar 26 04:48:20 <tiberiusiv>	sdice doesnt take much
Mar 26 04:48:31 <tiberiusiv>	1mil coins sdice would take 19k
Mar 26 04:49:27 <tiberiusiv>	i guess an arguement could be made that sdice btc volumes will decrease in the future
Mar 26 04:50:26 <Namworld>	They took over 65k so far...
Mar 26 04:50:48 <tiberiusiv>	theres a limit to sdice volume assuming vorhees doesnt sell
Mar 26 04:51:24 <Namworld>	Well if everyone just keeps their Bitcoins forever... there's going to be some issues
Mar 26 04:51:29 <tiberiusiv>	500mil btc volume would give voorhees all of btc in circulation
Mar 26 04:51:47 <tiberiusiv>	500mil of coins going through sdice
Mar 26 04:52:07 <Namworld>	Well I'd also get part of that...
Mar 26 04:52:20 <Namworld>	as long as people spend it...
Mar 26 04:52:30 <tiberiusiv>	they dont have to spend it
Mar 26 04:52:35 <tiberiusiv>	thats a total myth
Mar 26 04:53:15 <Bowjob>	tiber your math is way off
Mar 26 04:53:31 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob 1.9% of 500mil..
Mar 26 04:53:39 <tiberiusiv>	im not fully awake
Mar 26 04:53:50 <Bowjob>	go back excuses
Mar 26 04:54:03 <tiberiusiv>	how is it off, thats about 9.5mil coins
Mar 26 04:54:08 <Namworld>	I don't say they have to spend it...
Mar 26 04:54:12 <tiberiusiv>	close enough
Mar 26 04:55:04 <tiberiusiv>	assuming vorrhees is not selling/spending his btc, sdice volumes will decrease over time
Mar 26 04:55:04 <Namworld>	;;bids 0
Mar 26 04:55:08 <gribble>	There are currently 36703203 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8908860.95577 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0174 seconds
Mar 26 04:55:09 <tiberiusiv>	in BTC
Mar 26 04:55:21 <Namworld>	8.908 million... still increasing
Mar 26 04:55:40 <tiberiusiv>	and they already ar decreasing
Mar 26 04:55:52 <tiberiusiv>	satoshi dice total transactions have declined
Mar 26 04:56:45 <tiberiusiv>	BTC will simply be too expensive even for sdice addicts to afford
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Mar 26 04:57:11 <tiberiusiv>	fiat volumes may increase though
Mar 26 04:57:18 <Namworld>	Well actually it probably went down because BTC increased in USD. And people want to gamble at max X USD
Mar 26 04:57:29 <Namworld>	or put x% of their income into gambling
Mar 26 04:57:33 <Namworld>	and since that's in USD...
Mar 26 04:57:36 <tiberiusiv>	namworld it naturally has to go down
Mar 26 04:57:42 <Namworld>	Of course
Mar 26 04:57:52 <Namworld>	USD wise however, SD is making gains
Mar 26 04:57:56 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 26 04:58:05 <tiberiusiv>	in real terms the gains could increase
Mar 26 04:58:20 <Namworld>	When I make a BTC investment, I can find out holding BTC might have been better.
Mar 26 04:58:35 <Namworld>	But as long as in fiat it increases instead, it's not a complete loss.
Mar 26 04:58:40 <tiberiusiv>	but theres also a limit to total BTC sdice can take
Mar 26 04:58:48 <Namworld>	It's just worse than holding BTC
Mar 26 04:58:55 <Namworld>	yeah, that too
Mar 26 04:59:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34999 = 0.7 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 04:59:30 <tiberiusiv>	sdice can offer gambling with bitcoin substitutes
Mar 26 04:59:34 <tiberiusiv>	like mtgox coupons
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Mar 26 05:00:47 <tiberiusiv>	its theoretically possible for mtgox to even inflate the monetary supply
Mar 26 05:00:59 <tiberiusiv>	if people trade coupons amongst themselves
Mar 26 05:01:08 <tiberiusiv>	and not everyone redeems at the same time
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Mar 26 05:01:25 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 77
Mar 26 05:01:28 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 77.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Mar 26 05:01:34 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 78
Mar 26 05:01:35 <gribble>	There are currently 2228.4083 bitcoins offered at or under 78.0 USD, worth 173045.230736 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.1586 seconds
Mar 26 05:02:06 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 26 05:02:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.77701, Best ask: 77.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.41299, Last trade: 77.19000, 24 hour volume: 81058.63736284, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.89676
Mar 26 05:02:10 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 26 05:02:23 <Chaang-Noi>	large spread
Mar 26 05:03:35 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 26 05:03:39 <Namworld>	But price going up
Mar 26 05:03:44 <Namworld>	slowly
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Mar 26 05:04:45 <Namworld>	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
Mar 26 05:04:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [+]
Mar 26 05:04:56 <Namworld>	The hourly chart says crazy movements
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Mar 26 05:05:43 <tiberiusiv>	i love how mp values mpex at 50mil when it has the liquidity of a bag of bricks
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Mar 26 05:05:58 <tiberiusiv>	$10k traded on a good day lmao 50mil market cap
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Mar 26 05:07:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i think the claim of 50 million to be a bit high myself
Mar 26 05:07:13 <Chaang-Noi>	but if he can sell it at that good for him
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Mar 26 05:07:19 <tiberiusiv>	he cant.
Mar 26 05:07:28 <Chaang-Noi>	he can sell some at the price
Mar 26 05:07:29 <tiberiusiv>	hence why he still owns that high ammount
Mar 26 05:07:30 <Namworld>	tiberius: $10k traded on a good day? That's WAY under...
Mar 26 05:07:45 <tiberiusiv>	chaang-noi: yes 500x lower then 50mil.
Mar 26 05:08:07 <Chaang-Noi>	better to sell 10% at 10,000 than 100% at 1,000
Mar 26 05:08:36 <tiberiusiv>	anyone paying the ask price is a fool deserving of the losses
Mar 26 05:09:49 <Namworld>	There's more than $10k traded daily =/
Mar 26 05:10:00 <Chaang-Noi>	i would agree but there is nothing wrong with mp selling it for that price
Mar 26 05:10:04 <Chaang-Noi>	freemarket
Mar 26 05:10:09 <tiberiusiv>	im not discussing that chaang
Mar 26 05:10:25 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Mar 26 05:10:28 <tiberiusiv>	you can offer a bag of garbage up for 1mil.
Mar 26 05:10:42 <tiberiusiv>	im stating mpex is so grossly overvalued it isnt even funny.
Mar 26 05:10:45 <Chaang-Noi>	but the thing is, mp found some people to buy it, 12%
Mar 26 05:10:50 <tiberiusiv>	it trades at like a 1000 p/e ratio
Mar 26 05:10:54 <Chaang-Noi>	its funny until you see he sold 12%
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Mar 26 05:11:07 <tiberiusiv>	chaang yes a sucker is born every minute.
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Mar 26 05:11:23 <tiberiusiv>	pirate found people willing to give him $50mil
Mar 26 05:11:26 <Chaang-Noi>	yup, i tip my hat to mp for finding so many
Mar 26 05:11:44 <Chaang-Noi>	mp is doing it honestly (i assume)
Mar 26 05:12:01 <tiberiusiv>	you could have siad the same for pirate.
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Mar 26 05:12:15 <Chaang-Noi>	turns out he was not (i assume)
Mar 26 05:12:21 <tiberiusiv>	in both cases you have 0 ways of knowing
Mar 26 05:12:35 <Chaang-Noi>	but you cant call mp a scammer if you dont know :/
Mar 26 05:12:45 <tiberiusiv>	i never did
Mar 26 05:12:51 <Chaang-Noi>	there you go then:)
Mar 26 05:12:56 <tiberiusiv>	merely stated the gross overvaluation that the egomaniac gives himself
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Mar 26 05:13:03 <tiberiusiv>	usually that is a tell tale
Mar 26 05:13:09 <Chaang-Noi>	but it is backed up by 12% sales
Mar 26 05:13:12 <tiberiusiv>	of future problems
Mar 26 05:13:19 <tiberiusiv>	no its backed up by nothing.
Mar 26 05:13:26 <Chaang-Noi>	then dont invest, are you trying to convert people?
Mar 26 05:13:49 <tiberiusiv>	its the same as bbet
Mar 26 05:13:59 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont use his exchange or buy his stuff cuz i think it is way overvalued, if you are trying to convert me you are wasting your time
Mar 26 05:14:03 <tiberiusiv>	trades at 800k mp value while making 100 dollars a month
Mar 26 05:14:19 <Chaang-Noi>	well, if he can sell it might as well eh?
Mar 26 05:14:38 <tiberiusiv>	again he cant. thats why theres so many shares offered and so little bidders
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Mar 26 05:14:41 <Chaang-Noi>	if i were him id do it too
Mar 26 05:14:44 <tiberiusiv>	other then most likely his own bots
Mar 26 05:14:52 <Chaang-Noi>	well, im sure he sold some
Mar 26 05:15:17 <tiberiusiv>	the  name of the game is to create imaginary earnings to stimulate a bid
Mar 26 05:15:20 <tiberiusiv>	to dump your shares onto
Mar 26 05:15:26 <Chaang-Noi>	well im off to do some real work, you should really do the same, point out how sucessful mp is is not really a good use of your time.
Mar 26 05:15:29 <tiberiusiv>	making you rich in the process
Mar 26 05:15:38 <tiberiusiv>	BTC opened up an entire new avenue for scammers
Mar 26 05:15:47 <tiberiusiv>	that hasnt existed in decades
Mar 26 05:16:27 <Chaang-Noi>	freemarket captalizum,
Mar 26 05:16:29 <Chaang-Noi>	gota love it
Mar 26 05:16:31 <tiberiusiv>	chaang im sure youve got a sweat shop to attend to :)
Mar 26 05:16:36 <dub>	thank you for imparting this knowledge tiberiusiv
Mar 26 05:16:55 <tiberiusiv>	running scams is capitalism? i guess you defined it correctly
Mar 26 05:19:04 <Namworld>	So you claim trades on MPEx are fake?
Mar 26 05:19:16 <tiberiusiv>	nope
Mar 26 05:19:26 <tiberiusiv>	theres no way to verify is all i claimed
Mar 26 05:19:27 <Namworld>	well inflated at least
Mar 26 05:19:53 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: always be weary of someone who has a vested interest in selling you something
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Mar 26 05:25:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont have a sweatshop, only because i have more profitable things to do with my limited time
Mar 26 05:25:56 <tiberiusiv>	i meant working in one.
Mar 26 05:26:04 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Mar 26 05:26:06 <tiberiusiv>	doubt you had the intelligence to own one based on your comments
Mar 26 05:26:14 <Chaang-Noi>	you must be new here
Mar 26 05:27:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i have not "worked" in over a year and even that "work" was "teaching" at a university
Mar 26 05:27:56 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 78
Mar 26 05:27:56 <gribble>	There are currently 2117.1272 bitcoins offered at or under 78.0 USD, worth 164451.6758 USD in total. | Data vintage: 105.3837 seconds
Mar 26 05:27:59 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 80
Mar 26 05:28:00 <gribble>	There are currently 8048.9544 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 637161.672751 USD in total. | Data vintage: 109.1166 seconds
Mar 26 05:28:20 <tiberiusiv>	chaang-noi: well why would you be working when in thailand you can live on 1btc a month
Mar 26 05:29:42 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, it is pretty awesome
Mar 26 05:29:50 <Namworld>	[05:19] <tiberiusiv> namworld: always be weary of someone who has a vested interest in selling you something
Mar 26 05:30:04 <Namworld>	I don't typically buy S.MPOE but thanks anyway for the advice
Mar 26 05:30:21 <Namworld>	I get S.DICE mostly. and Options
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Mar 26 05:35:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10899 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 05:45:48 <MJR_>	hi all
Mar 26 05:46:29 <Namworld>	hello
Mar 26 05:46:35 <MJR_>	whats new
Mar 26 05:46:41 <Namworld>	not much
Mar 26 05:46:50 <Namworld>	BTC on the up
Mar 26 05:46:51 <MJR_>	hmmm, i think we may see a dip
Mar 26 05:46:59 <Namworld>	why?
Mar 26 05:47:10 <MJR_>	just the depth of the book
Mar 26 05:47:15 <MJR_>	the buy side looks thin
Mar 26 05:47:20 <MJR_>	which is pretty rare
Mar 26 05:47:36 <Namworld>	not at all. Been like taht all day
Mar 26 05:47:46 <Namworld>	and still moving forward
Mar 26 05:47:56 <MJR_>	i mean in general it is usually a monster buy side with thing supply
Mar 26 05:48:05 <Chaang-Noi>	1 million sales of btc drops it down to 72
Mar 26 05:48:06 <Namworld>	asks are almost just as thin
Mar 26 05:48:19 <Chaang-Noi>	but i think we are going up, new ath soon
Mar 26 05:48:20 <MJR_>	yeah its pretty thin trading altogether
Mar 26 05:48:30 <mircea_popescu>	market a little exhausted
Mar 26 05:48:32 <MJR_>	well, yeah, i mean before 9
Mar 26 05:48:33 <mircea_popescu>	excitement doesn't last.
Mar 26 05:48:38 <MJR_>	i think the market is exhausted
Mar 26 05:48:50 <MJR_>	and i'm thinking of trying to ride it from 77.50 to 74
Mar 26 05:48:55 <Chaang-Noi>	when did coinlab come online?
Mar 26 05:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is what naturally wrecks ponzis
Mar 26 05:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	after sustained rise there's some flagging and that causes a panic
Mar 26 05:49:22 <MJR_>	yeah
Mar 26 05:49:33 <Namworld>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Mar 26 05:49:45 <MJR_>	i'm thinking that if i can short it here...hopefully there is a sell off and i can buy back in for more
Mar 26 05:50:02 <Namworld>	after the saturday crash, bids are getting back in the orderbook
Mar 26 05:50:17 <Namworld>	Bids outweight asks by now
Mar 26 05:50:19 <MJR_>	yeah...
Mar 26 05:50:20 <Namworld>	Anyway
Mar 26 05:50:32 <MJR_>	but 250 coins to move to 77 1250 to move to 78
Mar 26 05:50:53 <Chaang-Noi>	wall at 77.5 wont hold
Mar 26 05:50:57 <Namworld>	on such a small scale, that's insignificant
Mar 26 05:50:57 <MJR_>	5 to 1 pushing down
Mar 26 05:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	risk shorting btc tho
Mar 26 05:51:06 <Namworld>	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
Mar 26 05:51:09 <MJR_>	lol, yeah, it is tough
Mar 26 05:51:19 <Namworld>	Look at hourly
Mar 26 05:51:21 <MJR_>	and when trading high margin...you want very short scale
Mar 26 05:51:31 <MJR_>	clark moody always breaks for me
Mar 26 05:51:36 <MJR_>	using bitcoininty.org
Mar 26 05:51:38 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 77.5
Mar 26 05:51:42 <gribble>	There are currently 194.56549 bitcoins offered at or under 77.5 USD, worth 15078.825151 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Mar 26 05:51:56 <Namworld>	we're basically raising at about the same speed as before the crash
Mar 26 05:52:06 *	cads is now known as ShigeruMasamoto
Mar 26 05:52:26 <Namworld>	asks are slowly getting eaten too
Mar 26 05:52:55 <Chaang-Noi>	wall gone, now to test the ath
Mar 26 05:53:16 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 78
Mar 26 05:53:16 <gribble>	There are currently 1462.6683 bitcoins offered at or under 78.0 USD, worth 113828.206504 USD in total. | Data vintage: 94.5324 seconds
Mar 26 05:53:46 <Chaang-Noi>	lol at gox fail
Mar 26 05:54:05 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 05:54:07 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 26 05:54:29 <MJR_>	this is my first bitcoin short
Mar 26 05:54:41 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 26 05:55:05 <MJR_>	and again, i think we may hit an ath today, i just think we will dip a couple of bucks first
Mar 26 05:55:09 <MJR_>	and then i reverse position
Mar 26 05:55:16 <Namworld>	ain't sure bout that short
Mar 26 05:55:28 <Namworld>	but anyway
Mar 26 05:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	disagreement is the measure of healthy martket.
Mar 26 05:55:40 <MJR_>	yeah
Mar 26 05:55:48 <MJR_>	we'll see, i have my finger on the cover button
Mar 26 05:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	when you all agree i go the other way
Mar 26 05:55:55 <mircea_popescu>	when you disagree i go play path of exile
Mar 26 05:56:06 <Namworld>	I'm out for now anyway
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Mar 26 05:57:10 <dub>	yall nigras see this
Mar 26 05:57:15 <dub>	www.labsnovo.com?
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Mar 26 05:57:57 <MJR_>	well i got my trailing stop in place
Mar 26 05:58:00 <MJR_>	we will see
Mar 26 06:01:24 <MJR_>	there we go]
Mar 26 06:03:15 <MJR_>	i think it really doesn't take much to burst mt gox to 60 second plus lag
Mar 26 06:03:22 <Chaang-Noi>	wow big sell then big buy
Mar 26 06:03:28 <MJR_>	i know
Mar 26 06:03:46 *	ShigeruMasamoto is now known as cads
Mar 26 06:04:02 <MJR_>	unfortunately this software is just now realizing the sell, there is lag from gox, then lag to the charts, then lag to bitfinex
Mar 26 06:04:33 <MJR_>	and for the pleasure of seeing things happening minutes after they actually happen i pay ridiculous fees... :(
Mar 26 06:04:44 <Chaang-Noi>	all the asks and bids were taken out so we should see some crazy movements
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Mar 26 06:05:03 <MJR_>	yes
Mar 26 06:05:14 <MJR_>	90 coins puts under 77
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Mar 26 06:05:37 <MJR_>	310 for 76
Mar 26 06:06:34 <MJR_>	there it goes again
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Mar 26 06:10:08 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 78
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Mar 26 06:14:54 <MJR_>	ffs big spread
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Mar 26 06:15:07 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 26 06:15:19 <Chaang-Noi>	i wanted to see a new ath :/
Mar 26 06:16:57 <MJR_>	you probably will today
Mar 26 06:17:03 <MJR_>	but hopefully not before we hit 76
Mar 26 06:17:27 <MJR_>	what is with this mini wall at 76.68
Mar 26 06:17:54 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 26 06:18:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.68630, Best ask: 77.58899, Bid-ask spread: 0.90269, Last trade: 76.68630, 24 hour volume: 82045.91053246, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 75.03512
Mar 26 06:18:10 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 06:18:20 <gribble>	0.468706 seconds
Mar 26 06:19:42 <MJR_>	lol they just keep widening this gap
Mar 26 06:21:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell toffoo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158780.0
Mar 26 06:21:07 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Mar 26 06:32:07 <ChaangNoi>	test
Mar 26 06:32:25 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 26 06:32:34 <Namworld>	dub: copyright 2012-2013?
Mar 26 06:32:34 <MJR_>	whatcha testing?
Mar 26 06:32:45 <Chaang-Noi>	new laptop
Mar 26 06:32:53 <Namworld>	registered 10 days ago...
Mar 26 06:33:05 <dub>	yeah its scammy as fuck
Mar 26 06:34:09 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155896
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Mar 26 06:54:14 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 26 06:54:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.00003, Best ask: 77.03400, Bid-ask spread: 0.03397, Last trade: 77.00002, 24 hour volume: 81960.22119000, 24 hour low: 71.55001, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 75.09242
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Mar 26 07:06:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00449 = 0.0629 BTC [+]
Mar 26 07:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 304 @ 0.00449999 = 1.368 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 07:18:36 <Chaang-Noi>	78 still holds
Mar 26 07:18:37 <Chaang-Noi>	booo
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Mar 26 07:23:43 <MJR_>	this trading platform is such fucking bullshit
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Mar 26 07:27:33 <Namworld>	the wall doesn't keep price from rising tho
Mar 26 07:28:38 <MJR_>	yeah
Mar 26 07:28:40 <MJR_>	true
Mar 26 07:29:38 <Chaang-Noi>	77.77
Mar 26 07:29:46 <Chaang-Noi>	really 77.777
Mar 26 07:29:54 <MJR_>	lucky
Mar 26 07:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [-]
Mar 26 07:30:05 <Namworld>	I'm feeling lucky today
Mar 26 07:30:11 <Namworld>	More 7s
Mar 26 07:30:28 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 79.99
Mar 26 07:30:31 <gribble>	There are currently 4330.0318 bitcoins offered at or under 79.99 USD, worth 343548.746816 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0041 seconds
Mar 26 07:30:49 <kakobrekla>	MJR_ you mean all of them?
Mar 26 07:31:36 <Chaang-Noi>	we keepgetting close, but cant reach 78 lol
Mar 26 07:31:45 <Namworld>	Without that wall to intimidate, there's like nothing until 100... very light slope
Mar 26 07:32:03 <Chaang-Noi>	sells will come in...
Mar 26 07:32:07 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 99.99
Mar 26 07:32:07 <gribble>	There are currently 39920.895 bitcoins offered at or under 99.99 USD, worth 3454701.99447 USD in total. | Data vintage: 96.3542 seconds
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Mar 26 07:34:01 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 07:34:02 <gribble>	90.205895 seconds
Mar 26 07:34:18 <Namworld>	whut
Mar 26 07:34:23 <Namworld>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 07:34:23 <gribble>	95.695534 seconds
Mar 26 07:34:26 <Namworld>	...
Mar 26 07:34:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
Mar 26 07:34:40 <kakobrekla>	86$ high on stamp
Mar 26 07:34:50 <kakobrekla>	just now
Mar 26 07:35:53 <Chaang-Noi>	btc hit 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85687.msg1678821#msg1678821
Mar 26 07:36:17 <Chaang-Noi>	on stamp
Mar 26 07:36:36 <Chaang-Noi>	pretty bullish if they will pay 33% more than gox
Mar 26 07:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00063865 = 2.9059 BTC [-]
Mar 26 07:37:04 <kakobrekla>	you mean this
Mar 26 07:37:04 <kakobrekla>	?
Mar 26 07:37:05 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/3V/sH/2APFuyCb/lol.png
Mar 26 07:37:07 <kakobrekla>	was a while ago
Mar 26 07:37:11 <kakobrekla>	but its not 100
Mar 26 07:37:17 <kakobrekla>	its just
Mar 26 07:37:21 <kakobrekla>	they are plain idiots
Mar 26 07:37:32 <kakobrekla>	and they put 100 in the book first, then execute the asks
Mar 26 07:37:58 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 26 07:38:06 <Chaang-Noi>	still some sold at 100 right?
Mar 26 07:38:28 <kakobrekla>	not on stamp
Mar 26 07:38:44 <kakobrekla>	Day's range:
Mar 26 07:38:44 <kakobrekla>	$74.30 - $86.00
Mar 26 07:38:54 <Chaang-Noi>	this was yesterday i think
Mar 26 07:39:10 <Chaang-Noi>	day old photo
Mar 26 07:39:17 <kakobrekla>	ah
Mar 26 07:39:22 <Chaang-Noi>	anyay someone seems to be messing with the market at 77.777
Mar 26 07:40:17 <MJR_>	hmmm
Mar 26 07:40:22 <MJR_>	seems like a good range
Mar 26 07:40:28 <MJR_>	wasn't sure if we would break 80
Mar 26 07:40:34 <MJR_>	but not that high of a wall really
Mar 26 07:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.665 BTC [-]
Mar 26 07:42:42 <Chaang-Noi>	77.95 again
Mar 26 07:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.58 = 1.74 BTC [-]
Mar 26 07:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.016 = 2.032 BTC [-]
Mar 26 07:44:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Mar 26 07:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.015 BTC [-]
Mar 26 07:45:13 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 07:45:14 <gribble>	0 seconds
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Mar 26 07:50:18 <Namworld>	78 almost breached...
Mar 26 07:50:24 <Namworld>	go BTC
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Mar 26 07:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.001 = 2.002 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:04:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 08:04:07 <gribble>	0.101416 seconds
Mar 26 08:04:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 26 08:04:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.50101, Best ask: 77.77699, Bid-ask spread: 0.27598, Last trade: 77.77699, 24 hour volume: 81032.30957756, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 75.25893
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Mar 26 08:06:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 5 @ 0.12930638 = 0.6465 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 08:09:25 <MJR_>	here we go
Mar 26 08:09:36 <MJR_>	NATH by 9:30
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Mar 26 08:11:30 <Chaang-Noi>	78
Mar 26 08:11:53 <Namworld>	yeehaa
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Mar 26 08:14:30 <Chaang-Noi>	127 sold at 78
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Mar 26 08:14:39 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 78
Mar 26 08:14:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [+]
Mar 26 08:14:40 <gribble>	There are currently 520.72291 bitcoins offered at or under 78.0 USD, worth 40616.3866223 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 26 08:14:48 <Chaang-Noi>	a bit of a wall then
Mar 26 08:18:39 <Chaang-Noi>	and its gone
Mar 26 08:18:42 <Namworld>	;;asks 78.01
Mar 26 08:18:42 <gribble>	There are currently 146.47185 bitcoins offered at or under 78.01 USD, worth 11424.8039147 USD in total. | Data vintage: 103.6015 seconds
Mar 26 08:18:43 <Chaang-Noi>	new ath
Mar 26 08:19:00 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 78.01
Mar 26 08:19:03 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 78.01 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 26 08:19:12 <Chaang-Noi>	here comes 80
Mar 26 08:19:28 <Namworld>	guy is going to get his wall eaten...
Mar 26 08:20:10 <deadweasel>	;;calc 18000*80
Mar 26 08:20:10 <gribble>	1440000
Mar 26 08:20:28 <Namworld>	yeah, why not
Mar 26 08:20:52 <deadweasel>	maybe he'll drop the wall and buy in at market.
Mar 26 08:22:05 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 26 08:23:12 <ThickAsThieves>	79
Mar 26 08:23:29 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 08:23:29 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 26 08:23:33 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 26 08:23:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.40001, Best ask: 79.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 79.00000, 24 hour volume: 82470.81706976, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.00000, 24 hour vwap: 75.34531
Mar 26 08:23:47 <Namworld>	large wall removeds
Mar 26 08:23:51 <Namworld>	removed*
Mar 26 08:24:10 <Namworld>	back...
Mar 26 08:24:17 <deadweasel>	lol, now he's getting market bids in.
Mar 26 08:24:20 <ThickAsThieves>	here we goooooo
Mar 26 08:24:30 <ThickAsThieves>	79.70
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Mar 26 08:24:34 <Namworld>	HOLY SHIT
Mar 26 08:24:44 <Namworld>	Stop it people >.>
Mar 26 08:24:45 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Mar 26 08:24:46 <assbot>	I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
Mar 26 08:24:47 <ThickAsThieves>	watch gox freeze now
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Mar 26 08:24:51 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 26 08:24:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.38000, Best ask: 79.58766, Bid-ask spread: 1.20766, Last trade: 79.50000, 24 hour volume: 82500.26463872, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.04992, 24 hour vwap: 75.35045
Mar 26 08:24:53 <Diablo-D3>	THE FUCK
Mar 26 08:25:21 <ThickAsThieves>	just some lil walls
Mar 26 08:25:29 <Chaang-Noi>	its a big ass wall
Mar 26 08:25:35 <ThickAsThieves>	thatll drop
Mar 26 08:25:36 <Chaang-Noi>	but... lets see if it stands
Mar 26 08:25:53 <ThickAsThieves>	he's got a buffer wall
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Mar 26 08:26:28 <Namworld>	wall dropped
Mar 26 08:27:04 <Chaang-Noi>	it did, still there but much less
Mar 26 08:27:15 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 80
Mar 26 08:27:15 <gribble>	There are currently 3554.2802 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 284165.021183 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.1147 seconds
Mar 26 08:27:23 <Chaang-Noi>	in fucking sane
Mar 26 08:28:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34999 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 26 08:29:49 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 80
Mar 26 08:29:49 <gribble>	There are currently 3808.2111 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 304401.035789 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.4863 seconds
Mar 26 08:30:09 <Chaang-Noi>	that wont hold, usa is starting to wake up and buy...
Mar 26 08:31:30 <Namworld>	Good, good.
Mar 26 08:32:38 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 26 08:32:39 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6881519.95343 based on data since last change | 7299527.825 based on data for last three days
Mar 26 08:33:43 <Namworld>	urgh
Mar 26 08:34:03 <Namworld>	There's no options available on MPEx
Mar 26 08:35:55 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Mar 26 08:37:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:39:17 <ThickAsThieves>	whats up with that
Mar 26 08:40:17 <Namworld>	No idea
Mar 26 08:40:35 <Namworld>	Anyone with his options already purchased must be quite happy
Mar 26 08:41:05 <Namworld>	They're back at last
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Mar 26 08:41:41 <Namworld>	At a premium on the call side... average increased
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Mar 26 08:43:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00064816 = 6.4168 BTC [+]
Mar 26 08:43:53 <mircea_popescu>	$depth o.btcusd.c750t
Mar 26 08:43:55 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: O.BTCUSD.C750T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.06090229']
Mar 26 08:43:56 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.09287598', '1000 @ 0.25']
Mar 26 08:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.454 = 0.908 BTC [+]
Mar 26 08:44:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.453 = 2.718 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	about there neh ?
Mar 26 08:44:17 <ThickAsThieves>	too spensive!
Mar 26 08:44:20 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 26 08:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	!last m o.btcusd.c750t
Mar 26 08:44:30 <assbot>	Last trade for O.BTCUSD.C750T on MPEX was at 0.0689697 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:44:51 <Namworld>	I think that was me buying
Mar 26 08:45:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.501 = 3.002 BTC [+]
Mar 26 08:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.5 = 3 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:45:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:45:26 <Namworld>	Yup, was me buying
Mar 26 08:45:32 <Namworld>	A little 1000 options
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Mar 26 08:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.4925 = 2.985 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	i thought mpex trades are all fake and shit.
Mar 26 08:47:03 <Thinker_>	why was the most recent ASICMINER dividend so low?
Mar 26 08:47:15 <Namworld>	Thinker_: ?
Mar 26 08:47:17 <ThickAsThieves>	it was a bonus
Mar 26 08:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile on twitter "UK's online gambling sector worth £2bn in 2012"
Mar 26 08:47:31 <Thinker_>	ThickAsThieves:  ok good
Mar 26 08:47:31 <ThickAsThieves>	but the next WILL be low
Mar 26 08:47:39 <Thinker_>	ThickAsThieves:  why?
Mar 26 08:47:49 <ThickAsThieves>	read about what you bought
Mar 26 08:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.49 = 2.98 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:48:09 <ThickAsThieves>	til now the company has not been paying themselves
Mar 26 08:48:14 <ThickAsThieves>	this week they start
Mar 26 08:48:43 <Namworld>	ASICMINER is for 50% of the company. But they pay back IPO price to shares sold.
Mar 26 08:48:49 <Thinker_>	ThickAsThieves:  interesting.  Where are you getting this news?  I am not getting any announcements like this from BitFunder.com
Mar 26 08:48:52 <Namworld>	So for the first weeks it was 100%
Mar 26 08:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:49:03 <ThickAsThieves>	bitfunder is a passthru for AM
Mar 26 08:49:08 <ThickAsThieves>	not a source
Mar 26 08:49:15 <Thinker_>	AM?
Mar 26 08:49:22 <Thinker_>	nm
Mar 26 08:49:25 <MJR_>	ATH
Mar 26 08:49:26 <ThickAsThieves>	here you go
Mar 26 08:49:26 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0
Mar 26 08:49:35 <Thinker_>	thank you :)
Mar 26 08:49:41 <ThickAsThieves>	no probmemo!
Mar 26 08:49:45 <ThickAsThieves>	problemo
Mar 26 08:49:47 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 26 08:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.453 = 0.906 BTC [-]
Mar 26 08:51:50 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 08:51:51 <gribble>	1.215531 seconds
Mar 26 08:52:01 <MJR_>	its quiet...too quiet
Mar 26 08:52:55 <Chaang-Noi>	we are waiting for btc to break 1k :)
Mar 26 08:55:09 <MJR_>	think we are going through 80 today?
Mar 26 08:55:16 <bitesak>	yes
Mar 26 08:55:38 <ThickAsThieves>	quite likely
Mar 26 08:55:43 <deadweasel>	yes
Mar 26 08:56:08 <MJR_>	me too
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Mar 26 08:56:20 <ThickAsThieves>	once we get to 79.85 or so, those walls will probably fall
Mar 26 08:56:57 <MJR_>	yeah 300k is not really a big wall nowadays
Mar 26 08:57:10 <MJR_>	was more interested in psychological barrier of big round number
Mar 26 08:57:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 79.84
Mar 26 08:57:13 <gribble>	There are currently 330.97408 bitcoins offered at or under 79.84 USD, worth 26409.0538315 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.6651 seconds
Mar 26 08:57:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 80
Mar 26 08:57:20 <gribble>	There are currently 3807.7847 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 304429.083077 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.9988 seconds
Mar 26 08:57:23 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Mar 26 09:00:23 <DeaDTerra>	24 hours left to bid on a pre order for Avalon ASIC Batch 2! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158227.msg1679211#msg1679211
Mar 26 09:00:33 <ThickAsThieves>	hey DT
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Mar 26 09:00:49 <ThickAsThieves>	can you put a link to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0 in your asicminer PT descriptions?
Mar 26 09:02:48 <DeaDTerra>	done
Mar 26 09:02:54 <ThickAsThieves>	cool cool
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Mar 26 09:05:22 <Bugpowder>	hmmm... did MPOE bots pricing model get tweaked?
Mar 26 09:06:27 <ThickAsThieves>	seems notably higher
Mar 26 09:07:18 <Bugpowder>	I wonder if mircea_popescu changed the pricing from 24vwap based to a blend of 24hr and spot
Mar 26 09:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	what, srsly ?
Mar 26 09:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't change anything
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Mar 26 09:07:32 <Bugpowder>	ok
Mar 26 09:07:34 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Mar 26 09:07:53 <Bugpowder>	maybe I was just underestimating the amount of time premium
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Mar 26 09:09:32 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's probably just seeing more volatility
Mar 26 09:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	as there's been a lot lately
Mar 26 09:09:56 <Bugpowder>	ah... volatility is explicitly programmed in
Mar 26 09:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-03-25/slovenia-s-nascent-cabinet-under-pressure-to-avoid-cyprus-fate
Mar 26 09:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.7444 = 3.722 BTC [+]
Mar 26 09:10:06 <mircea_popescu>	is slovenia fucked ?
Mar 26 09:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder what do you mean ?
Mar 26 09:12:12 <Bugpowder>	I mean, volatility is in the model, and is a reflection of some relatively short term variance, rather than a long term (1yr) variance or a magic number.
Mar 26 09:12:19 <Bugpowder>	stated more clearly.
Mar 26 09:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.7445 = 5.956 BTC [+]
Mar 26 09:13:30 <mircea_popescu>	it looks at a lot of data. long term, mid term, short term
Mar 26 09:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	thing is, as high volatility days turn into weeks
Mar 26 09:13:46 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 26 09:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	of course it'd change its estimation of the volatility
Mar 26 09:13:58 <Bugpowder>	i figured it would be multi scale
Mar 26 09:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 26 09:14:19 <Bugpowder>	looks like we may break thru 80 before 15:00.
Mar 26 09:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	quite possible
Mar 26 09:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	and if 80 goes i would guess 100 may happen
Mar 26 09:15:28 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu Jansa is butthurt and posting shit around - we are way better than Italy if that is any consolation
Mar 26 09:15:34 <kakobrekla>	:p
Mar 26 09:15:44 <Bugpowder>	we aren't gonna touch 100 this week
Mar 26 09:15:51 <Bugpowder>	but we might get close
Mar 26 09:16:00 <Bugpowder>	next week, maybe...
Mar 26 09:16:17 <Bugpowder>	later dudes.
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Mar 26 09:20:17 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla :p
Mar 26 09:28:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;hashrate
Mar 26 09:28:50 <gribble>	Error: "hashrate" is not a valid command.
Mar 26 09:29:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Mar 26 09:29:07 <gribble>	52161.604881
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Mar 26 09:30:11 <interesting>	lucif tends to think we will hit $100 this week https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.1000;topicseen
Mar 26 09:31:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i think we might
Mar 26 09:31:31 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 100
Mar 26 09:31:34 <gribble>	There are currently 28670.471 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2585939.459 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0028 seconds
Mar 26 09:32:01 <Chaang-Noi>	we have seen market orders of over 1 million recently
Mar 26 09:32:59 <Chaang-Noi>	lucif however has been wrong way more than right
Mar 26 09:32:59 <interesting>	incredible.
Mar 26 09:33:29 <interesting>	yeah definitely not saying we will... just... i think the sentiment is that we will very soon
Mar 26 09:33:39 <interesting>	certainly within april
Mar 26 09:36:45 <interesting>	does anyone have any info on the coinlab mtgox merger? any wealth flowing through it yet?
Mar 26 09:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	interesting actually... they blew their date, failed to release alpha and no further news
Mar 26 09:39:10 <mircea_popescu>	as far as we know it's dead.
Mar 26 09:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00063865 = 4.1193 BTC [-]
Mar 26 09:40:08 <interesting>	okay so nothing new then... lol
Mar 26 09:40:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.108897 BTC [+]
Mar 26 09:40:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.108898 = 0.3267 BTC [+]
Mar 26 09:40:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 21 @ 0.10899 = 2.2888 BTC [+]
Mar 26 09:40:57 <mircea_popescu>	myea
Mar 26 09:41:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.10899 = 0.436 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 09:48:13 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 09:48:14 <gribble>	2.112843 seconds
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Mar 26 09:55:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Mar 26 09:56:11 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 26 09:56:11 <gribble>	There are currently 36681645 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9119639.08052 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.2884 seconds
Mar 26 09:56:15 <Bugpowder>	9.1M
Mar 26 09:56:16 <Bugpowder>	noice
Mar 26 09:56:26 <Bugpowder>	all time high
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Mar 26 09:57:57 <KRS1>	there was talk of a crash a while back but that topic seemed to have fizzled
Mar 26 09:58:14 <KRS1>	crash but rebound of course, cyclic as markets are
Mar 26 09:58:29 <KRS1>	maybe crash is a strong word...dip?
Mar 26 09:58:44 <Bugpowder>	don't fight the tape
Mar 26 09:58:53 <Bugpowder>	5000 accounts waiting for verification.
Mar 26 09:59:05 <Bugpowder>	assume conservatively a mean investment of $2000 per account
Mar 26 09:59:11 <Bugpowder>	probably way low
Mar 26 09:59:23 <Bugpowder>	= $10,000,000 of new funds flowing into gox soon.
Mar 26 09:59:48 <Bugpowder>	Dips will get strongly bought
Mar 26 09:59:53 <Bugpowder>	until one day they don't
Mar 26 10:00:22 <Bugpowder>	it will probably take a negative news event to trigger a real crash.
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Mar 26 10:02:59 <KRS1>	figured..as i've noticed you seem to give pretty reasonable information
Mar 26 10:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	dip yea
Mar 26 10:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think 2k is way low tbh
Mar 26 10:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	i think 100 bux is a saner avg
Mar 26 10:06:47 <deadweasel>	i would say $500 is reasonable for motivated newbs.  but it would be a bell curve of deposits
Mar 26 10:06:48 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: I'm guessing median is $1000 for joe reddit, but mean could skew significantly higher
Mar 26 10:07:04 <mircea_popescu>	how does joe reddit have 1k disposable ?!
Mar 26 10:07:10 <deadweasel>	good question
Mar 26 10:07:11 <Bugpowder>	life savings!
Mar 26 10:07:13 <mircea_popescu>	dude srlsy, ask people.
Mar 26 10:07:22 <deadweasel>	mom is still paying their insurance...
Mar 26 10:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	if joe reddit meets drop dead gorgeous sexbomb he doesn't move
Mar 26 10:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	because
Mar 26 10:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	he doesn't have fiddy bux to dine her.
Mar 26 10:07:46 <Bugpowder>	Some 17 year old kid keeps buying $1000 in coins off me with cash every week
Mar 26 10:07:56 <Bugpowder>	I don't know if he is dealing the coins at school or what
Mar 26 10:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder he's prolly dealing dope.
Mar 26 10:08:19 <Bugpowder>	I think he is investing too
Mar 26 10:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	or else he has a wicked shot
Mar 26 10:08:28 <Bugpowder>	seems to be very excited about the rise in price.
Mar 26 10:09:57 <pizzaman1337>	Bugpowder: what country are you in?
Mar 26 10:10:16 <Bugpowder>	USA
Mar 26 10:10:55 <deadweasel>	where does a 17 yr old get $1k a week?
Mar 26 10:11:12 <KRS1>	for real
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Mar 26 10:12:51 <Bugpowder>	Probably reselling coins
Mar 26 10:12:53 <Bugpowder>	or SR
Mar 26 10:12:58 <Bugpowder>	or both
Mar 26 10:13:18 <Bugpowder>	reselling coins is probably more profitable and much less risk
Mar 26 10:13:31 <Bugpowder>	25% markup...  $250 / wk
Mar 26 10:13:50 <Bugpowder>	plus the coins appreciate between the time I sell to him and he sells.
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Mar 26 10:16:06 <MJR_>	nice boiler room reference, did you like it?
Mar 26 10:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00063515 = 0.7939 BTC [-]
Mar 26 10:18:32 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder: I can see that.  At the increase in price, it would be profitable for the last couple of months.
Mar 26 10:18:51 <deadweasel>	slinging BTC..   kids these days!
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Mar 26 10:21:23 <KRS1>	haha deadweasel
Mar 26 10:21:33 <KRS1>	off yo corner not mines
Mar 26 10:22:40 <deadweasel>	i'd rather just hold.  you can sling BTC on my corner KRS1
Mar 26 10:22:51 <deadweasel>	just no crack/smack
Mar 26 10:22:56 <deadweasel>	brings values down
Mar 26 10:23:06 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 26 10:23:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.62001, Best ask: 78.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 78.70000, 24 hour volume: 76425.55033919, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 75.99540
Mar 26 10:23:36 <Chaang-Noi>	about the bad news and the crash, im shocked the fork did not do any damage but stall the bulls for a few days, insane... we would need massive bad news to do anything
Mar 26 10:24:11 <Chaang-Noi>	also dont you need a min of 1000 to ahve to get your account aproved?
Mar 26 10:24:29 <Chaang-Noi>	on gox
Mar 26 10:24:37 <kakobrekla>	you mean verified?
Mar 26 10:24:38 <kakobrekla>	no
Mar 26 10:24:53 <Chaang-Noi>	they do it to everyone now?
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Mar 26 10:25:03 <kakobrekla>	it was like so since ever
Mar 26 10:25:12 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 26 10:25:29 <Chaang-Noi>	really? i have or had an anon account on gox
Mar 26 10:25:32 <deadweasel>	Chaang-Noi: I was exceedingly surprised by the fork not causing a lengthy crash
Mar 26 10:25:38 <KRS1>	crack is cheaper than whole units of BTC these days
Mar 26 10:26:03 <Chaang-Noi>	deadweasel yeah, that is when i knew we were going to double
Mar 26 10:26:12 <Chaang-Noi>	my trading bot account was never veriffied
Mar 26 10:26:14 <Chaang-Noi>	on gox
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Mar 26 10:26:42 <Chaang-Noi>	iv not used it in a year so things might have changed, i dont know
Mar 26 10:26:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.1429 = 1.0003 BTC [-]
Mar 26 10:26:59 <Chaang-Noi>	also every site i use to get the btc price is down for me...
Mar 26 10:27:20 <deadweasel>	Chaang-Noi: gox would just lag when you really needed it anyhow, better that you don't use it
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Mar 26 10:27:33 <MJR_>	bitcoinity is good
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Mar 26 10:27:40 <Chaang-Noi>	iv not used gox since they froce my account
Mar 26 10:27:44 <Chaang-Noi>	froze
Mar 26 10:27:54 <deadweasel>	still have money/btc frozen there?
Mar 26 10:27:59 <Chaang-Noi>	the one that i had verrified
Mar 26 10:28:14 <Chaang-Noi>	the only coin i have left in gox is my 700 btc from bitcoinica they wont let go
Mar 26 10:28:37 <ThickAsThieves>	thats a lot
Mar 26 10:28:47 <unbalanced__>	Why not?
Mar 26 10:29:00 <MJR_>	will they ever release it
Mar 26 10:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ not bad.
Mar 26 10:29:26 <Chaang-Noi>	gox is being silent right now about it, but before too long they will get sued
Mar 26 10:29:35 <mircea_popescu>	could have done without all the bs libertardism, but anyway
Mar 26 10:29:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i think they are waiting for the case to end in cali first
Mar 26 10:30:29 <Chaang-Noi>	MJR_ i think its my fail internetz :?
Mar 26 10:30:31 <unbalanced__>	Does any site show multi-exchange VWAP?
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Mar 26 10:30:54 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 26 10:31:07 <unbalanced__>	If community starts to watch that, maybe people would feel freer to trade more off-Gox
Mar 26 10:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	community always watched that
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Mar 26 10:31:35 <unbalanced__>	Is the ticker here pure gox tho?
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Mar 26 10:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 26 10:31:58 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
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Mar 26 10:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 26 10:32:09 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 26 10:32:15 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
Mar 26 10:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	what da ?!
Mar 26 10:32:23 <deadweasel>	lol, gribble is out of order
Mar 26 10:32:28 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 26 10:32:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 79.09000, Best ask: 79.09899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00899, Last trade: 79.09899, 24 hour volume: 76184.89958681, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.01784
Mar 26 10:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoincharts is 502
Mar 26 10:32:56 <deadweasel>	so it is...
Mar 26 10:33:25 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/
Mar 26 10:33:33 <Bugpowder>	that is multi exchange vwap
Mar 26 10:35:04 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: the mpoe bot seems to not have offers up much more of the time now than a few weeks ago.  Is this DDOS related, funding related, other?
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Mar 26 10:36:04 <unbalanced__>	thx Bugpowder
Mar 26 10:36:19 <kakobrekla>	btce price is 73
Mar 26 10:36:23 <kakobrekla>	bitstamp price 82
Mar 26 10:36:26 <kakobrekla>	facepalm
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Mar 26 10:37:01 <unbalanced__>	Too hard to get USD out of BTCe?
Mar 26 10:37:03 <KRS1>	couldnt one transfer their btc between markets for big profits
Mar 26 10:37:04 <MJR_>	wait what?
Mar 26 10:37:10 <Bugpowder>	this is typical
Mar 26 10:37:15 <MJR_>	KRS1: but what to do with the cash
Mar 26 10:37:15 <Bugpowder>	btce is always low
Mar 26 10:37:20 <Bugpowder>	bitstamp is always high
Mar 26 10:37:26 <MJR_>	that is true
Mar 26 10:37:32 <KRS1>	the cash out would give lower btc overall wouldnt it
Mar 26 10:37:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10898 BTC [+]
Mar 26 10:37:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10899 BTC [+]
Mar 26 10:38:07 <Bugpowder>	we are nearing the 15:00 hour
Mar 26 10:38:19 <Bugpowder>	prepare for the 80 wall to fall.
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Mar 26 10:38:25 <Bugpowder>	(hoping)
Mar 26 10:38:47 <MJR_>	me too Bugpowder
Mar 26 10:38:57 <Chaang-Noi>	kako to get money into btc-e you need to be tight with the russian maffia
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Mar 26 10:39:12 <MJR_>	the main issue is funding options and time
Mar 26 10:39:30 <Chaang-Noi>	also bitstamp is the easiest way to get in money fastest
Mar 26 10:39:36 <Chaang-Noi>	this is very bullish
Mar 26 10:39:50 <Chaang-Noi>	and its also keeping ltc prices down, people buyiong chewap btc
Mar 26 10:40:17 <unbalanced__>	virtex now at 82.50/84.20 (CAD)... Canada in the lead
Mar 26 10:40:50 <unbalanced__>	BTC on Virtex that is. Not VTX in BTC.
Mar 26 10:42:23 <MJR_>	whats bitfloor got
Mar 26 10:42:29 <MJR_>	they are the easiest in my opinion
Mar 26 10:42:55 <MJR_>	79.87
Mar 26 10:43:17 <unbalanced__>	Slight wall issue from here on Virtex tho: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/virtexCAD.html
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Mar 26 10:50:08 <MJR_>	yeah
Mar 26 10:50:16 <MJR_>	still quite a nice wall going on mt gox
Mar 26 10:50:23 <MJR_>	half a mill before 80
Mar 26 10:50:42 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 80
Mar 26 10:50:43 <gribble>	There are currently 5417.4674 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 431701.695968 USD in total. | Data vintage: 30.3969 seconds
Mar 26 10:50:52 <Chaang-Noi>	wall is growing
Mar 26 10:51:05 <MJR_>	exaggerated...its like 430k
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Mar 26 10:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder its probably observer related.
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Mar 26 11:00:16 <savetheintermac>	hello
Mar 26 11:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/BitBetsBets/status/316564306453999617
Mar 26 11:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	check that out, big money on ltc
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Mar 26 11:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder actually, seems btchcarts has issues with the feed.
Mar 26 11:12:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01401 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 11:16:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01451 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 11:19:13 <Bugpowder>	that 12000 BTC wall bastard is back
Mar 26 11:20:02 <Bugpowder>	where my bidders back
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Mar 26 11:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4600001 = 1.84 BTC [+]
Mar 26 11:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.46 = 11.96 BTC [-]
Mar 26 11:27:30 <Chaang-Noi>	crash:)
Mar 26 11:28:14 <thestrin1puller>	;;ticker
Mar 26 11:28:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.34000, Best ask: 77.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.66000, Last trade: 75.34000, 24 hour volume: 67052.57610028, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.21349
Mar 26 11:28:31 <thestrin1puller>	;;asks 80.0
Mar 26 11:28:31 <gribble>	There are currently 18683.032 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 1474040.53264 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.2638 seconds
Mar 26 11:28:48 <thestrin1puller>	lol 12000 btc ask wall
Mar 26 11:29:19 <Chaang-Noi>	its fake
Mar 26 11:29:36 <thestrin1puller>	the bears vs the bulls
Mar 26 11:33:22 <smickles>	10:24 <+gribble> New rating | Supa > -10 > smickles | None
Mar 26 11:33:23 <smickles>	lol
Mar 26 11:33:33 <MJR_>	fucking four minutes lag
Mar 26 11:33:34 <kakobrekla>	congrats
Mar 26 11:33:38 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 11:33:38 <gribble>	334.762829 seconds
Mar 26 11:33:42 <MJR_>	bullshit
Mar 26 11:34:13 <smickles>	we had another run at 80 eh?
Mar 26 11:35:26 <ZedsterX>	     Chaang-Noi: what do you mean it's fake? total newb here
Mar 26 11:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 11:38:45 <Bugpowder>	there is no such thing as a fake wall
Mar 26 11:38:57 <Bugpowder>	how many times do we have to go over this
Mar 26 11:39:13 <Bugpowder>	It is a wall designed to push prices down thouh
Mar 26 11:39:29 <deadweasel>	the wall is real, the intention just isn't what you think ZedsterX
Mar 26 11:39:49 <Bugpowder>	earlier today when it was put up, it was at 80.0001
Mar 26 11:40:23 <Bugpowder>	If he really wanted to sell, he would try to undercut the asks at 80, instead posting just above it
Mar 26 11:41:16 <Bugpowder>	Just someone trying to mainpulate the market, perhaps doing some day trading, scooping up at 75.5 on the dip, then reselling higher when he removes the wall
Mar 26 11:41:33 <Bugpowder>	the risk for him is that someone might just have the capital to buy the whole thing in one shot.
Mar 26 11:43:58 <Bugpowder>	not that selling 12000 BTC at 77.5 would be considered a bad outcome for most people :-P
Mar 26 11:45:54 <Bugpowder>	HEY!  XRP is now listed on http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/
Mar 26 11:45:59 <Bugpowder>	looks like the value is really tanking
Mar 26 11:46:08 <ZedsterX>	thanks for the clarification....i am just now reading day Trading for Dummies so I am currently a Dummies but learning
Mar 26 11:46:45 <Bugpowder>	30dvwap is 48000 for xrp, but 1day is 71000
Mar 26 11:47:16 <MJR_>	yeah, the fact he is manipulating i think means the price is being held lower
Mar 26 11:47:18 <Bugpowder>	ZedsterX: of course we don't really know what is in the mind of that trader, but that's what it appears to be.
Mar 26 11:47:19 <MJR_>	buy buy buy
Mar 26 11:47:38 <ZedsterX>	i get it Bug thanks
Mar 26 11:47:45 <Bugpowder>	This is typically a very active time of day though, that wall is really temping someone I bet...
Mar 26 11:48:07 <ZedsterX>	ok that confuses me
Mar 26 11:48:22 <ZedsterX>	but i am reading as we speak
Mar 26 11:48:36 <ZedsterX>	no need to elaborate just yet....lemme learn a bit more
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Mar 26 11:49:43 <MJR_>	i bet he cancels once someone really starts to eat into it
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Mar 26 11:49:50 <MJR_>	let loose the dogs of war
Mar 26 11:50:02 <ZedsterX>	MUHUhahah
Mar 26 11:50:05 <ZedsterX>	:)
Mar 26 11:50:27 <Bugpowder>	yah, but you can't cancel it in time if someone eats it all in one go.
Mar 26 11:50:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1088 BTC [-]
Mar 26 11:50:51 <Bugpowder>	time for lunch.... hopefully we will be >80 when I get back.
Mar 26 11:50:56 <unbalanced__>	Okay with The Wall and The Dogs Of War, time to turn on the Pink Floyd
Mar 26 11:51:12 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 26 11:51:14 <gribble>	There are currently 36671413 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9038379.57806 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0189 seconds
Mar 26 11:51:17 <mircea_popescu>	why "manipulating" ?
Mar 26 11:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	why can't it just be some dude who wants to sell at that price.
Mar 26 11:52:00 <jborkl>	mp, can you process my deposit. thanks
Mar 26 11:52:10 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: because people love a story
Mar 26 11:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl done Diablo-D3 heh i guess so
Mar 26 11:53:30 <jborkl>	Thank mp
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Mar 26 11:53:44 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1b1lvy/warning_the_silk_road_revealed_its_public_ip_last/
Mar 26 11:54:01 <Diablo-D3>	OH SHIT
Mar 26 11:54:03 <Diablo-D3>	SERIOUSLY?
Mar 26 11:54:34 <mircea_popescu>	aaahahahaah
Mar 26 11:54:44 <Diablo-D3>	PWNED
Mar 26 11:54:59 <Chaang-Noi>	well, if that get shut down not exactly good for btc
Mar 26 11:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	so this means in fact sr is either a honeypot or else has been under law enforcement scrutiny for months
Mar 26 11:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	because don't tell me they didn't know.
Mar 26 11:55:42 <Diablo-D3>	dude
Mar 26 11:55:51 <Diablo-D3>	Ive been saying its a honeypot since the day 1
Mar 26 11:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	Once the server is seized, it can either be taken offline and analyzed for evidence right then and there, or left online and modified to better accrue evidence. In the case of SR, leaving the server online and modifying the purchase mechanism to not encrypt addresses on the server would be the obvious choice. Law enforcement would immediately have access to all addresses, private messages, etc.
Mar 26 11:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	^^
Mar 26 11:57:06 <Doffx>	Lot of assumptions there.
Mar 26 11:57:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10899 BTC [+]
Mar 26 11:57:32 <Chaang-Noi>	the public ip could be a fake ip
Mar 26 11:57:59 <MJR_>	yes
Mar 26 11:58:03 <Doffx>	It assumes law enforcement also noticed this.
Mar 26 11:58:08 <MJR_>	or they could just be in a jurisdiction that gives two shits
Mar 26 11:58:41 <Chaang-Noi>	i hope to god it is in n korea
Mar 26 11:59:48 <MJR_>	think new zealand could be good enough
Mar 26 12:00:32 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: not exactly "manipulating" but anyone who puts an order that large out there is probably not trying to just sell or buy, they would layer it and break it up so that it wasn't obviuos
Mar 26 12:00:38 <mircea_popescu>	so this takes out sr.
Mar 26 12:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	mpex is LITERALLY the one left.
Mar 26 12:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	dun dun dun
Mar 26 12:00:48 <deadweasel>	um, change IPs?
Mar 26 12:00:55 <MJR_>	or iSP
Mar 26 12:01:14 <pizzaman1337>	bit4x hasn't been hacked
Mar 26 12:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ why shouldn't it be obvious ?
Mar 26 12:01:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 269 @ 0.000711 = 0.1913 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:01:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 131 @ 0.000711 = 0.0931 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:01:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 60 @ 0.000712 = 0.0427 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:01:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 680 @ 0.000713 = 0.4848 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:01:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1820 @ 0.000713 = 1.2977 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:02:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.10899 = 0.9809 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 12:05:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.144 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:05:58 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> so this means in fact sr is either a honeypot or else has been under law  enforcement scrutiny for months <<< probably since that initial address change
Mar 26 12:06:23 <jcpham>	never even visited it
Mar 26 12:07:08 <smickles>	i did a few times, but there wasn't ever anything worth buying
Mar 26 12:08:45 <smickles>	porn an laserpointers
Mar 26 12:08:46 <Chaang-Noi>	wall gone right?
Mar 26 12:09:27 <smickles>	the 80.01 one?
Mar 26 12:09:53 <Chaang-Noi>	no the 12000 at 77.5
Mar 26 12:09:58 <Chaang-Noi>	taken down or eaten?
Mar 26 12:10:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess taken down, hmm
Mar 26 12:10:28 <saulimus>	I'd say taken down as well
Mar 26 12:10:48 <Chaang-Noi>	if only i had a million on gox :)
Mar 26 12:10:52 <smickles>	there wasn't that much volume recently, so taken down
Mar 26 12:11:01 <Chaang-Noi>	and backto 78
Mar 26 12:11:10 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah vol is how i checked too
Mar 26 12:11:52 <smickles>	o.btc
Mar 26 12:12:57 <smickles>	$vwap oix
Mar 26 12:12:59 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 71.99677481 high: 78.31645607 low: 48.45538965 volume: 50180 btc: 4750.25972448 30 day: no data
Mar 26 12:13:29 <Chaang-Noi>	78.5
Mar 26 12:13:54 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Mar 26 12:13:55 <assbot>	Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
Mar 26 12:13:57 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 26 12:13:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.00000, Best ask: 78.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 78.00000, 24 hour volume: 68609.09897307, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.15356
Mar 26 12:14:04 <Diablo-D3>	OH COME ON
Mar 26 12:14:07 <Diablo-D3>	GO TO INFINITY ALREADY
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Mar 26 12:14:10 <Diablo-D3>	</#bitcoin>
Mar 26 12:16:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74998 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:17:23 <Chaang-Noi>	79
Mar 26 12:18:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 14 @ 0.00499 = 0.0699 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:18:07 <Chaang-Noi>	i see one share trade and im like wtf... then i remember that share is $50
Mar 26 12:18:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1304 BTC [-]
Mar 26 12:25:38 <KRS1>	diablo are you expecting it to go up or something
Mar 26 12:25:55 <KRS1>	this is looking plateau-ish, isnt it?
Mar 26 12:26:13 <KRS1>	just curious, im no expert or anything
Mar 26 12:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> i did a few times, but there wasn't ever anything worth buying <<< i kept saying it's irrelevant but NO!!! DRUGS!!! SR BIGGER THAN MPEx!!!1
Mar 26 12:26:58 <Diablo-D3>	KRS1: Im expecting it to go up, actually
Mar 26 12:27:40 <KRS1>	that would be nice...im trying to buy more, but on a dip at some point
Mar 26 12:28:01 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: remember when sr was down for 2 weeks, and it had no impact on bitcoin?
Mar 26 12:28:11 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 26 12:28:17 <mircea_popescu>	one of the reasons i was saying that.
Mar 26 12:28:17 <MJR_>	quick question, and don't laugh
Mar 26 12:28:30 <MJR_>	does coinbase have trouble when you SELL bitcoins on their site?
Mar 26 12:28:36 <MJR_>	or is it pretty much only on the buy side
Mar 26 12:28:59 <deadweasel>	smickles: was that when they got sql attacked or wahtever?
Mar 26 12:29:23 <deadweasel>	I used to think SR impact was large, I'd like to go look at the data for that period.
Mar 26 12:29:32 <smickles>	deadweasel: I don't think so. I believe they were idiopathicly offline
Mar 26 12:30:19 <deadweasel>	remember when it was?
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Mar 26 12:30:35 <smickles>	and you probably used the think it was large because the media and all the people who didn't thake the time to research the topic kept saying it was 3/4 of the bitcoin economy
Mar 26 12:30:46 <smickles>	It was in november iirc
Mar 26 12:31:07 <mircea_popescu>	all the media = reditards
Mar 26 12:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	what media.
Mar 26 12:31:28 <smickles>	mircea_popescu's blog has an article written at the time, which documents the date
Mar 26 12:31:34 <deadweasel>	smickles: i think that's why I thought so too.  i have some reditard in me, that much is obvious.
Mar 26 12:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 26 12:31:48 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: what media? news publications and blogs
Mar 26 12:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	yeah yeah
Mar 26 12:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	deformedia.
Mar 26 12:32:51 <deadweasel>	I would like to find out how many SR users become bitcoin adopters.  or if most of them just OD.
Mar 26 12:32:56 <smickles>	the news people were especially on about the relative size of sr when that senator was bitching about bitcoin
Mar 26 12:33:29 <deadweasel>	but i'll never know
Mar 26 12:33:30 <smickles>	well, i don't think too many drug users od...
Mar 26 12:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	lethal ods are really about as frequent as septicemia
Mar 26 12:34:09 <KRS1>	od figures are very low considering the number of users..dont ask me how i know guess i came across stats on that one day
Mar 26 12:34:36 <smickles>	especially since most drug users are either smokers or drinkers. but if we set that aside, most drug users are probably using pot, which takes thousands of pounds to od in
Mar 26 12:34:41 <smickles>	s/in/on/
Mar 26 12:35:08 <deadweasel>	ok, the more important part is how many of the SR users turn to BTC as a whole, whether it be speculation, assets, whatever.
Mar 26 12:35:23 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 12:35:24 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 26 12:35:27 <deadweasel>	or do you think most pick up some BTC, get their stash, and do it again in a few weeks....  never realizing the power of BTC
Mar 26 12:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel i don't think many really.
Mar 26 12:35:58 <smickles>	I'd bet it's a foot in the door. they may not start using BTC regularly right away, but it's psycologically addictive
Mar 26 12:36:16 <deadweasel>	don't i know it!
Mar 26 12:36:21 <deadweasel>	:D
Mar 26 12:36:48 <smickles>	like all the peeps who heard about bitcoin on 'Security Now' and ran a client for fun
Mar 26 12:37:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00499 = 0.0549 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:37:04 <smickles>	then some months later btc was up to 30, and they took interest
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Mar 26 12:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.0006361 = 0.5089 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:38:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00064816 = 1.8473 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 12:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 12:45:44 <smickles>	;;calc 31/(1-.6633)
Mar 26 12:45:45 <gribble>	92.0700920701
Mar 26 12:45:54 <smickles>	nice
Mar 26 12:50:30 <smickles>	;;calc 1/(1-.09251)
Mar 26 12:50:30 <gribble>	1.10194051725
Mar 26 12:50:40 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.09251)
Mar 26 12:50:40 <gribble>	82.6455387938
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Mar 26 12:54:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.07264594 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.08527257 BTC [+]
Mar 26 12:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00425029 = 3.4002 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 12:56:28 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.07264)
Mar 26 12:56:28 <gribble>	80.8747412008
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Mar 26 12:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
Mar 26 13:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.73925 = 2.2178 BTC [-]
Mar 26 13:01:07 <Bugpowder>	"MPEx just sponsored hosting for bitcoinity. Definitely check it out!"
Mar 26 13:01:13 <Bugpowder>	noice
Mar 26 13:01:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10899 = 0.218 BTC [+]
Mar 26 13:01:51 <smickles>	really? Bugpowder: was that one of those popup messages?
Mar 26 13:02:10 <smickles>	ooooh, mircea_popescu you sly dog
Mar 26 13:02:29 <smickles>	lol, link to dark themed mpex
Mar 26 13:03:56 <MJR_>	nice
Mar 26 13:04:47 <Bugpowder>	yeah, it popped up on bitcoinity
Mar 26 13:05:40 <Bugpowder>	bring back the coffee theme!
Mar 26 13:05:54 <jurov>	lol seems coinbr.live needs dark skin too nao
Mar 26 13:07:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10898 BTC [-]
Mar 26 13:08:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-]
Mar 26 13:08:56 <mircea_popescu>	haha i see ppl use bitcoinity
Mar 26 13:14:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34999 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 13:17:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.004587 = 0.0459 BTC [+]
Mar 26 13:17:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00459 = 0.0459 BTC [+]
Mar 26 13:18:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00459 BTC [+]
Mar 26 13:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	actually i would say jurov;s truck looks even better in dark faq
Mar 26 13:21:18 <smickles>	http://courtroom-joke.pen.io/
Mar 26 13:22:19 <jurov>	lol
Mar 26 13:22:48 <KRS1>	heh
Mar 26 13:23:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74998 BTC [+]
Mar 26 13:23:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74999 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 13:33:02 <thestrin1puller>	good news everyone
Mar 26 13:33:07 <thestrin1puller>	we are all gonna get laid!!!!
Mar 26 13:33:16 <thestrin1puller>	thanks to popesci
Mar 26 13:33:21 <thestrin1puller>	popescu*
Mar 26 13:33:28 <deadweasel>	um, i'm already getting laid
Mar 26 13:33:38 <deadweasel>	but thanks!
Mar 26 13:33:52 <cylta>	thestrin1puller: why?
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Mar 26 13:38:34 <deadweasel>	also, if you get romanian nymphos, use protection :)
Mar 26 13:39:08 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 26 13:39:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.01004, Best ask: 78.50001, Bid-ask spread: 0.48997, Last trade: 78.50001, 24 hour volume: 59775.07560411, 24 hour low: 72.60000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.48701
Mar 26 13:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	wait. wut ?
Mar 26 13:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Mar 26 13:41:02 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 26 13:41:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5d85a0d3d71fae1ea046dbcce6669c5252d0c741731614e7736ad361
Mar 26 13:41:38 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Mar 26 13:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate comboy 1 He's the Bitcoinity guy.
Mar 26 13:42:06 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user comboy has been recorded.
Mar 26 13:42:36 <cylta>	mircea_popescu: do you still sell accounts for 30 btc? =)
Mar 26 13:43:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
Mar 26 13:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	cylta yeah, reg fee is 30 btc.
Mar 26 13:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	happily the exchange rate is doing the work for me so i don't have to raise it.
Mar 26 13:44:02 <cylta>	it's 2.3k $
Mar 26 13:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	kinda cheap huh.
Mar 26 13:44:41 <KRS1>	I'm a noob at this stuff, even after working with and mining BTC for almost 2 yrs now, can someone answer a question about OTC for me?
Mar 26 13:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	yes KRS1. also, don't ask to ask. jsut ask.
Mar 26 13:44:56 <cylta>	KRS1: sure, just ask it
Mar 26 13:45:07 <Bugpowder>	askwall at 75 now
Mar 26 13:45:14 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 75
Mar 26 13:45:15 <cylta>	mircea_popescu: what is the total value of all asstes on mpex?
Mar 26 13:45:16 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
Mar 26 13:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	cylta like 1.3mn btc.
Mar 26 13:45:34 <cylta>	Bugpowder: mtgox      x5     7.3039 @    78.92499262 USD
Mar 26 13:45:41 <KRS1>	ok sorry bout that..so I 4000 btc for sale at 77.756 each on otc..I can buy from this guy at a discount (compared to current M.P.)?
Mar 26 13:45:48 <KRS1>	why would he want to sell at that price?
Mar 26 13:46:14 <cylta>	KRS1: he will not able to sell all amount because of low liquidity on market
Mar 26 13:46:15 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 75
Mar 26 13:46:15 <gribble>	There are currently 8953.862 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 678866.343559 USD in total. | Data vintage: 58.5529 seconds
Mar 26 13:46:40 <Bugpowder>	cylta: feel free to use my fingerprint for a 5BTC discount on the signup fee :)
Mar 26 13:46:46 <cylta>	KRS1: so, it's profitable for him to sell just a bit below, because it will be more than he will get if he will sell at market price... market price is limited to 10 btc aprx.
Mar 26 13:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.46 = 1.38 BTC [-]
Mar 26 13:47:08 <KRS1>	oh i see..buys are a bit low in demand so he's trying to discount them to get rid of em at a good price without bringing market price down
Mar 26 13:47:14 <cylta>	Bugpowder: hehe =) I don't think that I will ever be so self confident, that I will able to make more than 2.3k$ on trading.
Mar 26 13:47:27 <cylta>	 KRS1: right
Mar 26 13:47:28 <KRS1>	thanks!
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Mar 26 13:47:40 <cylta>	 KRS1: but buying such amount now... it's very risky.
Mar 26 13:47:46 <jborkl>	you won a seat on the MPEX echange , which has inherent value
Mar 26 13:47:46 <KRS1>	funny biz ya'll are in.
Mar 26 13:47:51 <jborkl>	own
Mar 26 13:47:53 <jborkl>	not won
Mar 26 13:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4531 = 2.2655 BTC [-]
Mar 26 13:48:09 <KRS1>	love what you are doing here mp
Mar 26 13:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	;)
Mar 26 13:48:22 <cylta>	jborkl: as I know, you can't sell it
Mar 26 13:48:28 <jborkl>	why not
Mar 26 13:48:32 <Bugpowder_>	sell your private key
Mar 26 13:48:37 <cylta>	jborkl: I mean whole account, so it does not cost it any more
Mar 26 13:48:46 <jborkl>	yes you could
Mar 26 13:48:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00449999 = 4.5 BTC [+]
Mar 26 13:49:06 <jborkl>	mp goes by key , not by name
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Mar 26 13:49:13 <Bugpowder_>	I must say, buying a seat on MPEX was the second best decision I made in bitcoinlyfe
Mar 26 13:49:40 <cylta>	Bugpowder_: did you earn enough to pay back for it price?
Mar 26 13:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Mar 26 13:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	time for the ponzigraph ?
Mar 26 13:49:58 <Bugpowder_>	I am up about 200BTC today alone
Mar 26 13:50:00 <jborkl>	He owns a seat on the exchange, which has appreciated in value
Mar 26 13:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.453 BTC [-]
Mar 26 13:50:15 <Bugpowder_>	so yes
Mar 26 13:50:23 <cylta>	Bugpowder_: what are you doing? just buying low selling high?
Mar 26 13:50:27 <Bugpowder_>	options
Mar 26 13:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 26 13:50:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.49000, Best ask: 77.80434, Bid-ask spread: 0.31434, Last trade: 77.80434, 24 hour volume: 60634.32567194, 24 hour low: 72.60000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.51197
Mar 26 13:50:39 <Bugpowder_>	I also have traded all the securities
Mar 26 13:50:42 <cylta>	Bugpowder_: selling or buying?
Mar 26 13:50:47 <Bugpowder_>	I have done it all
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Mar 26 13:51:04 <Bugpowder_>	futures, diff futures, the CDO offering, the S.BBET IPO
Mar 26 13:51:18 <cylta>	Bugpowder_: okay, does it mean that other people at mpex loose 200btc?
Mar 26 13:51:39 <Bugpowder_>	Not necessarily.  If the value of a security goes up, then everyone wins
Mar 26 13:51:51 <Bugpowder_>	for options, those are zero sum
Mar 26 13:51:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00449999 = 4.5 BTC [+]
Mar 26 13:52:00 <Bugpowder_>	the MPOE bond holders pay
Mar 26 13:52:25 <Bugpowder_>	but MPOE has averaged 12% return on equity per month
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Mar 26 13:52:29 <Bugpowder_>	since inception
Mar 26 13:52:52 <cylta>	Bugpowder_: okay. probably i'm just too stupid to understand all this things...
Mar 26 13:53:00 <KRS1>	same..
Mar 26 13:53:03 <Bugpowder_>	All in, the MPEX account fee is probably <1% of total personal profits so far.
Mar 26 13:53:09 <smickles>	drat. my daughter found out how to have the printer give a test page
Mar 26 13:53:30 <KRS1>	I bet its safe to say bugpowder has lost a coin or two as he was learning..
Mar 26 13:53:43 <Bugpowder_>	I've lost hundreds in a few hours
Mar 26 13:53:51 <smickles>	i suspect Bugpowder_ is ahead overall
Mar 26 13:53:53 <Bugpowder_>	buying puts on a dip
Mar 26 13:53:54 <KRS1>	which is easy with options?
Mar 26 13:54:14 <jurov>	cylta, there's also coinbr.com, almost as good as having mpex acct directly
Mar 26 13:54:23 <Bugpowder_>	But in the S.BBET IPO, I flipped about 200BTC into 400BTC in about 20 minutes.
Mar 26 13:54:35 <smickles>	i'll vouch for coinbr, it's a good service
Mar 26 13:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	that ipo was wild.
Mar 26 13:54:40 <KRS1>	wow..
Mar 26 13:54:43 <Bugpowder_>	cylta, if you have <500BTC to invest, I'd stick to coiner.
Mar 26 13:54:48 <Bugpowder_>	coinbr
Mar 26 13:54:51 <cylta>	 jurov: thanks, I already was there but they offering limited usability afaik
Mar 26 13:55:16 <smickles>	coiner, lol. that sounds like a bad word
Mar 26 13:55:36 <jurov>	yea but wwe can do anything that doesn't have the interface there manually on request
Mar 26 13:55:49 <smickles>	mircea_popescu, you're just one of those *coiners*. go back in your hole
Mar 26 13:55:55 <KRS1>	bugpowder- thanks sounds like sound advic
Mar 26 13:56:01 <jurov>	cylta, or is the prob somewhere else?
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Mar 26 14:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.73924998 = 5.1747 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 14:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.453 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 14:28:00 <taub>	what does an exchange seat do Bugpowder_
Mar 26 14:28:03 <taub>	and how much is it
Mar 26 14:28:50 <Bugpowder_>	you can trade directly on MPEx
Mar 26 14:28:53 <Bugpowder_>	It's 30BTC.
Mar 26 14:28:58 <Bugpowder_>	or 25BTC with referral
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Mar 26 14:29:11 <Bugpowder_>	otherwise, use coinbr
Mar 26 14:29:40 <Bugpowder_>	I should get paid for this PR job I'm doing here.
Mar 26 14:32:30 <taub>	:)
Mar 26 14:33:11 <jurov>	Bugpowder_: you can. just get a coinbr affiliate link :)
Mar 26 14:33:53 <Bugpowder_>	ah!
Mar 26 14:34:17 <taub>	option depth is really non existant
Mar 26 14:34:28 <Bugpowder_>	wait a minute
Mar 26 14:34:32 <Bugpowder_>	bot is updating
Mar 26 14:34:45 <Bugpowder_>	depth is basically unlimited
Mar 26 14:34:52 <Bugpowder_>	if you are willing to pay the premium
Mar 26 14:36:27 <taub>	prolly should read that book on options
Mar 26 14:36:32 <taub>	but sounds interesting
Mar 26 14:36:47 <smickles>	what is with mpoebot recently, i've been noticing more time when it's not offering
Mar 26 14:36:55 <taub>	mpex really could use a facelift
Mar 26 14:37:12 <taub>	doesnt really work on prmoting itself either!
Mar 26 14:37:12 <smickles>	taub: consider that that website is not mpex
Mar 26 14:37:25 <jurov>	taub, have you seen dark version? http://mpex.co/?r=1
Mar 26 14:37:36 <jurov>	that's as much facelift as we'll ever get
Mar 26 14:37:41 <taub>	black as my soul :)
Mar 26 14:37:43 <smickles>	mpex is the exchange, it's not like the nyse tradefloor has a web portal
Mar 26 14:37:43 <taub>	haha ok
Mar 26 14:38:22 <jborkl>	MPEX could not be easier to use, once you learn how to use it
Mar 26 14:38:23 <jurov>	but i guess, if someone creates nifty css for it, i can serve it on mpex.coinbr.com
Mar 26 14:38:39 <Bugpowder_>	I liked the coffee theme with the rounded edges.
Mar 26 14:38:58 <Bugpowder_>	taub, mpoe bot has been flaky the last few days
Mar 26 14:39:00 <Bugpowder_>	not sure why
Mar 26 14:39:15 <Bugpowder_>	if you wait around for 15 minutes, bid and asks will probably show up
Mar 26 14:39:24 <Bugpowder_>	1000 contracts at each strike
Mar 26 14:39:27 <jurov>	overloaded by the volatility, its model converges slowly?
Mar 26 14:40:02 <Bugpowder_>	maybe?  frankly I'm surprised its not out of captial
Mar 26 14:40:07 <Bugpowder_>	400,000 contracts
Mar 26 14:40:09 <Bugpowder_>	traded
Mar 26 14:40:20 <Bugpowder_>	probably strong skew to long BTC
Mar 26 14:40:20 <jurov>	or the slave girls can't keep up :)
Mar 26 14:40:40 <smickles>	well, it's capital is mpbor + mircea's wallet
Mar 26 14:40:55 <Bugpowder_>	is it still?
Mar 26 14:41:00 <Bugpowder_>	I thought its just mpbor now
Mar 26 14:41:06 <smickles>	yeah, he's 'lender of last resort'
Mar 26 14:41:09 <Bugpowder_>	still?
Mar 26 14:41:16 <smickles>	i didn't think it changed
Mar 26 14:41:24 <jurov>	it didn't happen so often recently, but he's still there
Mar 26 14:41:35 <Bugpowder_>	maybe he needs to add funds
Mar 26 14:41:54 <smickles>	well buy my offerings if mpoebot isn't there
Mar 26 14:42:30 <jurov>	anyway seems it arrived
Mar 26 14:42:32 <Bugpowder_>	taub Bot is back, check now
Mar 26 14:43:30 <smickles>	got my new laptop-bought-with-bitcoins
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Mar 26 14:43:41 <smickles>	named it "Lappy9001"
Mar 26 14:43:45 <Bugpowder_>	congrats! from where?
Mar 26 14:43:59 <Bugpowder_>	I'm still waiting on a shipment for over 2 weeks from bitcoinstore.com
Mar 26 14:44:00 <smickles>	Bugpowder_: bitcoinstore
Mar 26 14:44:09 <Bugpowder_>	I think something got fucked up
Mar 26 14:44:15 <smickles>	was it on backorder?
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Mar 26 14:45:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 2 @ 0.60574691 = 1.2115 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 14:45:50 <jurov>	^ selling a bit of my stash every day
Mar 26 14:46:00 <smickles>	;;calc 31/(1-.6057)
Mar 26 14:46:00 <gribble>	78.6203398428
Mar 26 14:46:01 <Bugpowder_>	It was in stock
Mar 26 14:47:46 <taub>	whose bot is it that puts up the options? :D
Mar 26 14:47:54 <taub>	mpoe bot
Mar 26 14:48:19 <smickles>	mpoebot and soebot
Mar 26 14:48:34 <smickles>	soebot is much smaller than mpoebot
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Mar 26 14:48:57 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder_: you got that affiliate link/ invitation code for CoinBr?
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Mar 26 14:49:27 <deadweasel>	I want to check it out, and I want you to get paid for all your PR.
Mar 26 14:50:37 <jurov>	heh. no other user around?
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Mar 26 14:50:44 <Bugpowder_>	heyyyy
Mar 26 14:50:51 <Bugpowder_>	let me make an account first :)
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Mar 26 14:50:56 <Bugpowder_>	5 minutes...
Mar 26 14:51:06 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 26 14:51:18 <smickles>	i think we see fail soon
Mar 26 14:51:21 <jurov>	... and fund it. no refcode access without funding :D
Mar 26 14:51:31 <Bugpowder_>	yah sure
Mar 26 14:51:38 <kakobrekla>	and paying monthly fee
Mar 26 14:51:39 <kakobrekla>	?
Mar 26 14:51:52 <jurov>	or maybe i can give you special evangelist account?
Mar 26 14:52:48 <deadweasel>	give him special account
Mar 26 14:53:04 <deadweasel>	special account that charges more fees  :)
Mar 26 14:53:33 <deadweasel>	jurov, how many users you have on coinbr nowadays?
Mar 26 14:53:34 <jurov>	but can't he earn more than 1BTC/year, srsly?
Mar 26 14:53:53 <Bugpowder_>	heh
Mar 26 14:53:54 <deadweasel>	i probably can't, Bugpowder_ can.
Mar 26 14:54:01 <taub>	what does the T and N mean at the end of the option names?
Mar 26 14:54:08 <Bugpowder_>	depends on my pr skillz
Mar 26 14:54:09 <Bugpowder_>	THIS month NEXT month
Mar 26 14:54:14 <jurov>	T expire this month , N next
Mar 26 14:54:26 <taub>	ok, but you can exercise them anytime right
Mar 26 14:54:40 <Bugpowder_>	yes
Mar 26 14:54:46 <Bugpowder_>	at 24hprc
Mar 26 14:54:47 <jurov>	yes. just usually its' better to sell to mpoebot than exercise
Mar 26 14:54:56 <taub>	k
Mar 26 14:55:05 <Bugpowder_>	I think always better to sell to bot
Mar 26 14:55:10 <taub>	yea 24h price seems to make it hard to use for short term speculation
Mar 26 14:55:13 <Bugpowder_>	but sometimes bot is down
Mar 26 14:55:49 <kakobrekla>	how come bot is taking the hit
Mar 26 14:56:31 <jurov>	http://bitbet.us/bet/39/network-difficulty-under-6-million/ paid ... and i made over 6btc \o/
Mar 26 14:56:50 <kakobrekla>	i should use that site more
Mar 26 14:56:52 <deadweasel>	!!!!  awesome
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Mar 26 14:58:59 *	smickles records 17xgj1zw44D7uQWBMxYZ4whGaKJA3DDJ53 and 1M2VqN5Rx2T1K1K7kqMASn9vZPcT7Xh7mb
Mar 26 15:00:18 <jurov>	smickles what? u wanna beer?
Mar 26 15:00:54 <smickles>	I'll take a beer :D
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Mar 26 15:01:20 <benkay>	manhattan por moi
Mar 26 15:01:30 <Bugpowder__>	Stone IPA plz
Mar 26 15:01:43 <smickles>	;;gpg info smickles
Mar 26 15:01:43 <deadweasel>	mcallens 12 pls
Mar 26 15:01:43 <gribble>	User 'smickles', with keyid EA62D7CEB2450C3F, fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6, registered on Mon Jun 20 12:24:35 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=smickles . Currently not authenticated.
Mar 26 15:01:57 <Bugpowder__>	Anyone interested in a Vegas meetup at some point?
Mar 26 15:02:11 <smickles>	I am if I can get away for a weekend
Mar 26 15:02:19 <smickles>	vegas is 8hrs away in a car
Mar 26 15:02:53 <Bugpowder__>	I was thinking of getting a suite at the Aria with some friends that I got into bitcoin
Mar 26 15:02:56 <jurov>	anyone else wants a beer?
Mar 26 15:02:59 <Bugpowder__>	after cashing out a bit.
Mar 26 15:03:13 <deadweasel>	i'm also 3000 miles away
Mar 26 15:03:39 <Bugpowder__>	send beer here : 15P1P2XXtB3ANXzKM9a3WsAYwWBQMQS8S8
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Mar 26 15:04:28 <smickles>	sweet, thanks jurov :D
Mar 26 15:04:38 <deadweasel>	send single malt here: 1GdtkZzhZTzBssUq6bnE27cz4rv5SJ4sr5
Mar 26 15:04:43 <deadweasel>	:D
Mar 26 15:04:56 <benkay>	makers here: 1PKN13yoE1djfh7c4frx5kjiUhTRABkCxZ
Mar 26 15:05:22 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder__: got that evangelist account link yet?
Mar 26 15:05:32 <taub>	1CbcoatRNRj3tGY9G6nXqf143o8Vzd4rmA cheers
Mar 26 15:05:37 <jurov>	he did not ask. but got a beer instead
Mar 26 15:06:16 <Bugpowder__>	I'm getting drunk off this 6pack
Mar 26 15:06:22 <Bugpowder__>	tonight
Mar 26 15:06:35 <jurov>	cheers! round closed.
Mar 26 15:06:38 <Bugpowder__>	I sent funds...  waiting for it
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Mar 26 15:07:11 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder__: np, thanks!  just msg me when you get it, i'l use it when I get home.
Mar 26 15:07:19 <deadweasel>	jurov, thanks!
Mar 26 15:07:32 <taub>	ty
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Mar 26 15:08:09 <jurov>	basically the bet was a hedge to back iDiff-O offering
Mar 26 15:08:43 <jurov>	but things went lucky so that diff law low when iDiff expired and jumped up before the bet resolved
Mar 26 15:08:53 <jurov>	so, free money :)
Mar 26 15:09:36 <Bugpowder__>	heheh
Mar 26 15:12:34 <jurov>	btw, your depiosit was credited
Mar 26 15:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7381 BTC [-]
Mar 26 15:13:05 <kakobrekla>	was it credited with the beer money? :)
Mar 26 15:13:27 <Bugpowder__>	jurov: how do I find the referral code
Mar 26 15:13:29 <deadweasel>	I love your BETA mermaid!
Mar 26 15:13:36 <jurov>	click on Profile
Mar 26 15:13:38 <Bugpowder__>	kewl, you can order anything on coiner!
Mar 26 15:13:59 <kakobrekla>	i had a beta fish
Mar 26 15:14:03 <kakobrekla>	never turned humanish
Mar 26 15:14:09 <jurov>	mp should prolly replace NAT.ROUTERS with S.BEER
Mar 26 15:14:14 <Bugpowder__>	deadweasel: Invite code is t1vLT2E7SK
Mar 26 15:14:24 <Bugpowder__>	anyone else feel free to use it!
Mar 26 15:14:33 <Bugpowder__>	so I can get rich
Mar 26 15:14:41 <Bugpowder__>	off the labors of others.
Mar 26 15:15:05 <jurov>	u filthy rentier
Mar 26 15:15:12 *	jurov calls kettle black
Mar 26 15:15:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34999 BTC [+]
Mar 26 15:16:07 <Bugpowder__>	Noice.... 2 factor auth
Mar 26 15:16:16 <Bugpowder__>	via google or wallet
Mar 26 15:16:22 <Bugpowder__>	5 starts
Mar 26 15:16:25 <Bugpowder__>	stars
Mar 26 15:17:33 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder__: thanks!
Mar 26 15:18:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74998 BTC [-]
Mar 26 15:18:59 <jurov>	deadweasel, the plan is for mermaid to stay: http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/coinbr-248x50.png
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Mar 26 15:19:44 <deadweasel>	jurov: just funded my account.     nice I like the logo!
Mar 26 15:19:51 <MJR_>	i like the mermaid
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Mar 26 15:20:34 <jurov>	but it's also warning, don't heed the calls of the sirens :)
Mar 26 15:21:31 <MJR_>	yes
Mar 26 15:21:37 <deadweasel>	strap me to the mast with rope, plug your ears with seaweed, and ROW ON!
Mar 26 15:21:46 <MJR_>	i had all my friends stuff wax in their ears, but i just tied myself to the mast
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Mar 26 15:21:55 <deadweasel>	wax
Mar 26 15:22:03 <MJR_>	you beat me
Mar 26 15:22:11 <MJR_>	high five for odyssey references
Mar 26 15:22:22 <deadweasel>	o/
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Mar 26 15:26:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7431 @ 0.00063815 = 4.7421 BTC [-]
Mar 26 15:26:00 <deadweasel>	To all passthrough operators:  Have your largest gains come from IPO offerings?
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Mar 26 15:38:39 *	dub wonders if mcallens are as good as macallan malts
Mar 26 15:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6419 @ 0.00063815 = 4.0963 BTC [-]
Mar 26 15:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15184 @ 0.00064816 = 9.8417 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 15:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	<jborkl> MPEX could not be easier to use, once you learn how to use it <<< this.
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Mar 26 15:46:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10895 BTC [+]
Mar 26 15:47:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009989 BTC [-]
Mar 26 15:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.07287477 BTC [+]
Mar 26 15:50:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.07282198 BTC [-]
Mar 26 15:52:33 <deadweasel>	dub...  i just know how to enjoy it, not spell it.
Mar 26 15:53:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 27 @ 0.74001 = 19.9803 BTC [-]
Mar 26 15:53:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-]
Mar 26 15:54:11 <Bugpowder__>	nobody taking me up on the asicminer offer
Mar 26 15:54:16 <Bugpowder__>	i wonder why?
Mar 26 15:54:23 <deadweasel>	what's your offer?
Mar 26 15:54:48 <deadweasel>	also isn't AM rather over-valued now that they are paying themselves?
Mar 26 15:54:50 <Bugpowder__>	loan me your shares
Mar 26 15:54:58 <Bugpowder__>	I pay you 1.05x dividends
Mar 26 15:55:03 <deadweasel>	oh, my bad.  ain't got none.
Mar 26 15:55:05 <Bugpowder__>	and give the shares back
Mar 26 15:55:11 <Bugpowder__>	in a month or two
Mar 26 15:55:16 <deadweasel>	but I did use your affiliate link.
Mar 26 15:55:19 <Bugpowder__>	tx
Mar 26 15:57:24 <dub>	deadweasel: yeah pretty good stuff, I've got one of the oaked expression s
Mar 26 15:58:04 <deadweasel>	is that the 10 year fine oak?
Mar 26 15:58:25 <jcpham>	what is the asicminer offer
Mar 26 15:58:32 <deadweasel>	i had that last, good stuff.  but then I had the 12, and remembered why it's more.
Mar 26 15:58:35 <Bugpowder__>	"WARNING: This OP's account was well known and active on the Something Awful forums, in the anti-bitcoin threads in both GBS and YOSPOS (the username was changed recently). Everything /u/PaidGovernmentShill is saying should be treated with extreme skepticism until ample proof is given."
Mar 26 15:58:45 <Bugpowder__>	maybe SR is not exposed.
Mar 26 15:59:12 <deadweasel>	jcpham: offer to lend Bugpowder__ your AM shares, he pays you 1.05x divs
Mar 26 15:59:16 <dub>	deadweasel: not sure
Mar 26 15:59:23 <deadweasel>	they grey box?
Mar 26 15:59:35 <deadweasel>	s/they/the
Mar 26 16:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 26 16:00:56 <mircea_popescu>	don't tell me somethingbawful is stupid enough to imagine
Mar 26 16:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	"they shall crash bitcoin and save the day"
Mar 26 16:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	by means of reddit posting
Mar 26 16:01:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 8 @ 0.05118997 = 0.4095 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:01:19 <deadweasel>	time to leave work.  adios y'all!  keep makin' money!
Mar 26 16:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.07284474 BTC [+]
Mar 26 16:02:45 <dub>	deadweasel: I think this one http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-11812.aspx
Mar 26 16:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 7 @ 0.05055601 = 0.3539 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 16:10:35 <smickles>	;;calc 75/1.05055
Mar 26 16:10:35 <gribble>	71.3911760506
Mar 26 16:11:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.07324674 BTC [+]
Mar 26 16:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 7 @ 0.05005851 = 0.3504 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 16:17:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.744 BTC [+]
Mar 26 16:17:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.743 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.742 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.741 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73801 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.738 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7191 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.695 = 1.39 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.6502 = 13.004 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6501 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.6501 = 1.9503 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.61002 = 1.8301 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.6 = 11.4 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:17:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.59998 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:18:00 *	TheSeven keeps getting reports of assbot flooding channels :P
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Mar 26 16:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.7056 = 1.4112 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:21:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:21:23 <Bugpowder__>	WELL THEN
Mar 26 16:21:51 <Bugpowder__>	so much for borrowing asicminer and selling for .85
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Mar 26 16:22:13 <dub>	yo, anyone want to borrow some asicminer?
Mar 26 16:22:39 <KRS1>	bugpowder: do you have a link to your asicminer offer?
Mar 26 16:23:54 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 26 16:23:54 <gribble>	51891.838511036272
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Mar 26 16:24:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.69999 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 16:24:44 <Bugpowder__>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158780.msg1677534#msg1677534
Mar 26 16:25:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 16:25:10 <KRS1>	borrow some asicminer?
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Mar 26 16:26:51 <toffoo>	Bugpowder__: I've been thinking about replying to your offer
Mar 26 16:27:07 <Bugpowder__>	I'm thinking about cancelling it
Mar 26 16:27:15 <Bugpowder__>	act fast!
Mar 26 16:27:19 <Bugpowder__>	:)
Mar 26 16:27:46 <toffoo>	i guess there's still some bids on bitfunder,
Mar 26 16:28:12 <toffoo>	but with all the manual movements, pt creatations, etc. you probably won't be able to do anything too fast
Mar 26 16:28:13 <KRS1>	i don't know enough about this, im still trying to structure my investment
Mar 26 16:28:35 <Bugpowder__>	I'd rather just deal with existing PT funds
Mar 26 16:28:49 <Bugpowder__>	than ASICMINER itself
Mar 26 16:28:50 <toffoo>	right, i'd have to create them, i got the real things
Mar 26 16:28:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 26 16:28:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.39000, Best ask: 77.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 77.39000, 24 hour volume: 58618.02997539, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.81664
Mar 26 16:29:25 <ThickAsThieves>	I leave you guys for a few hours and you can't even get the price to 80? cmon
Mar 26 16:29:35 <Bugpowder__>	yah I'll do bitfunder still
Mar 26 16:29:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 26 16:29:46 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 228159 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1664 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 2 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6975914.74409 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.18303
Mar 26 16:29:50 <dub>	buttfunder is even harder than btct
Mar 26 16:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063516 = 0.6352 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:30:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062873 = 4.5269 BTC [-]
Mar 26 16:30:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder__ late :D
Mar 26 16:30:37 <dub>	you need a weex account, tickle ukyo's balls, expose yourself to serial scamee DT
Mar 26 16:30:45 <Bugpowder__>	blah
Mar 26 16:31:15 <Bugpowder__>	hmmm they have puts on the price though
Mar 26 16:31:16 <Bugpowder__>	heheh
Mar 26 16:31:21 <Bugpowder__>	maybe I'll just do that
Mar 26 16:31:51 <Bugpowder__>	nah
Mar 26 16:32:04 <Bugpowder__>	not enough liquidity to make it worth it
Mar 26 16:32:04 <Ukto>	dub: how is bitfunder hard?
Mar 26 16:32:30 <Ukto>	and wha serial scams are you refering to ?
Mar 26 16:33:00 <ThickAsThieves>	jokes
Mar 26 16:33:02 <dub>	don't you need an acct on weex to use bf?
Mar 26 16:33:23 <Ukto>	correct. what about that is "hard"? unless clicking some buttons is "difficult"
Mar 26 16:33:42 <dub>	well its an extra account to have for no appreciable reason
Mar 26 16:33:51 <Ukto>	there are many reasons
Mar 26 16:34:00 <Ukto>	ranging from security and so on
Mar 26 16:34:07 <dub>	lol
Mar 26 16:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto what's your take on the entire fincen thing btw ?
Mar 26 16:34:23 <mircea_popescu>	re weex
Mar 26 16:34:27 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: its great news.
Mar 26 16:34:29 <Ukto>	doestne ffect weex
Mar 26 16:34:34 <Ukto>	weex is not in the us
Mar 26 16:34:36 <Ukto>	its AU
Mar 26 16:34:45 <dub>	also you have to trust some guy with an anime avatar.. sheesh
Mar 26 16:35:01 <Ukto>	dub: evil world dominating anime avatar
Mar 26 16:35:02 <Ukto>	:)
Mar 26 16:35:06 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu have you said anything about fincen yet?
Mar 26 16:35:09 <Ukto>	fincen has shown it will not make an enemy of bitcoin and specified how to do it legal
Mar 26 16:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner yes. i have said "here is fincen saying what I said back in october and all the reddit "lawyers" laughed at"
Mar 26 16:36:49 <Lyspooner>	what did you say in october
Mar 26 16:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	they should bake me pies.
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Mar 26 16:37:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/
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Mar 26 16:41:05 <Ukto>	well, they require licensing if your a us based exchange.
Mar 26 16:41:07 <Ukto>	thats really about it
Mar 26 16:41:32 <Ukto>	they tried to touch on directly selling ecurrenc for $$ (local/direct trades)
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Mar 26 16:41:37 <Ukto>	but they cant really enforce it.
Mar 26 16:41:46 <Ukto>	i think it was put in there to make someone shut up
Mar 26 16:41:53 <Ukto>	who was bothering them
Mar 26 16:41:53 <Ukto>	:P
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Mar 26 16:42:10 <MJR_>	fuck that was a boring day
Mar 26 16:42:15 <Ukto>	its like how copying vhs's was illegal
Mar 26 16:42:48 <MJR_>	yes, exactly
Mar 26 16:44:49 <benkay>	and let's be real here for a half damn second if you want to play in this space in the us it means licensing
Mar 26 16:45:18 <benkay>	anyone who says otherwise and tries to operate out of the us will likely get their face stomped in
Mar 26 16:45:39 <toffoo>	eventually
Mar 26 16:45:42 <benkay>	you'll note that most people in the space are operating from *outside* the us
Mar 26 16:45:59 <benkay>	there are some idiots here who are doing things to some degree or another
Mar 26 16:46:06 <benkay>	but nobody playing in the big bad scawwy assets space
Mar 26 16:46:25 <benkay>	herr popescu aside but see above
Mar 26 16:50:39 <Bugpowder__>	77.5 eaten
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Mar 26 16:51:23 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 26 16:51:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.77125, Best ask: 77.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20875, Last trade: 77.98000, 24 hour volume: 60339.76121126, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.84286
Mar 26 16:52:00 <_Cristian>	benkay: what's with popescu?
Mar 26 16:52:19 <benkay>	_Cristian what about?
Mar 26 16:52:41 <_Cristian>	you mentioned him earlier and I was curious to find out more
Mar 26 16:52:52 <benkay>	you must be blue here
Mar 26 16:52:56 <benkay>	http://mpex.co
Mar 26 16:52:57 <benkay>	his shop[
Mar 26 16:52:59 <Bugpowder__>	Ukto, so if I buy puts on ASICMINER on bitfunder.  When I execute the puts, do I get the difference between the last price and the strike price or what?
Mar 26 16:53:15 <benkay>	bugpowder it's a 24hr vwap
Mar 26 16:53:22 <benkay>	iirc
Mar 26 16:53:23 <Bugpowder__>	;;ticker
Mar 26 16:53:24 <mircea_popescu>	haha 24hr vwap ftw.
Mar 26 16:53:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.12474, Best ask: 78.20340, Bid-ask spread: 0.07866, Last trade: 78.12474, 24 hour volume: 60030.23352097, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.85850
Mar 26 16:53:30 <_Cristian>	benkay: and is it trustworthy?
Mar 26 16:53:30 <Bugpowder__>	78.5
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Mar 26 16:53:44 <benkay>	_Cristian you have to make that call on your own
Mar 26 16:53:47 <Bugpowder__>	sup tiberiusiv
Mar 26 16:54:01 <tiberiusiv>	hi
Mar 26 16:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	"A cat can survive fall from height of hundreds of Cheap Ray Bans Glasses feet."
Mar 26 16:54:29 <mircea_popescu>	today i learned.
Mar 26 16:55:39 <benkay>	did you read about the guy running loads of free porn sites to drive up pageviews on his health sites for impressionfraud?
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Mar 26 16:55:51 <benkay>	itty bitty little iframes all over the porn sites
Mar 26 16:56:30 <Ukto>	Bugpowder__: sorry in depth programming atm
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Mar 26 16:56:33 <benkay>	programmed to make 1 visitor to the porn site look like 1 visitor exploring the other sites
Mar 26 16:56:59 <Ukto>	Bugpowder__: if you execute a put, you get (amount) * (strike price[aka trade price])
Mar 26 16:57:04 <Ukto>	or you get amount
Mar 26 16:57:08 <Ukto>	depending on if its a call or a put
Mar 26 16:57:17 <Bugpowder__>	Do I need to own shares to buy a put?
Mar 26 16:57:55 <Bugpowder__>	or to exercise a put?
Mar 26 16:58:34 <Bugpowder__>	HERE WE GO
Mar 26 16:59:25 <Bowjob>	i got richer while i slept
Mar 26 16:59:26 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 26 16:59:34 <kakobrekla>	go back to sleep
Mar 26 16:59:51 <Bowjob>	i know, i should be sleeping normally at this hour
Mar 26 16:59:52 <Bowjob>	:/
Mar 26 17:00:19 <Bowjob>	UPS charged me an exorbitant fee for my headphones, grr
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Mar 26 17:01:52 <Namworld>	How much richer?
Mar 26 17:03:33 <Bowjob>	not much like you guys, only have a few btc
Mar 26 17:04:10 <Namworld>	Good enough
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Mar 26 17:05:37 <Bowjob>	but that $21.00 brokerage stung. wtf
Mar 26 17:07:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.07590368 = 0.1518 BTC [+]
Mar 26 17:07:42 <benkay>	whatchoo talkin about bowjob?
Mar 26 17:07:48 <benkay>	broker fees on coinbr?
Mar 26 17:07:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.699 = 2.097 BTC [-]
Mar 26 17:08:08 <Bowjob>	nah, UPS.. I got something shipped
Mar 26 17:08:19 <Bowjob>	If it was USPS there wouldnt be brokerage
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Mar 26 17:10:57 <benkay>	what do you mean by brokerage?
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Mar 26 17:11:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7 = 4.2 BTC [+]
Mar 26 17:11:13 <benkay>	the shipping cost?
Mar 26 17:11:20 <dub>	he left
Mar 26 17:11:31 <benkay>	well.
Mar 26 17:11:33 <dub>	possibly customs brokerage though
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Mar 26 17:16:04 <dub>	theres an insidious form of idiot tax I've encountered where customs try to push you through a brokerage to pay sales tax
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Mar 26 17:19:20 <Bugpowder__>	;;bids 75
Mar 26 17:19:21 <gribble>	There are currently 11005.086 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 834370.275355 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.6584 seconds
Mar 26 17:19:26 <Bugpowder__>	pressure is building....
Mar 26 17:21:31 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 26 17:21:37 <Namworld>	lotta pressure...
Mar 26 17:22:09 <tiberiusiv>	btc is just following other asset classes higher
Mar 26 17:22:30 <tiberiusiv>	because of its illiquidity the moves are just excacrbated
Mar 26 17:22:42 <tiberiusiv>	btc at new highs so is the US stock market
Mar 26 17:22:54 <tiberiusiv>	both peaked out around the same time even in 2011
Mar 26 17:23:19 <benkay>	chart?
Mar 26 17:23:27 <tiberiusiv>	find it yourself
Mar 26 17:24:37 <tiberiusiv>	BTC started its last move around the same time the US stock market broke out in january 2013
Mar 26 17:24:46 <jurov>	Bugpowder__: you can keep the tesla. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/03/mercedes-benz-sls-electric/#slideid-56056
Mar 26 17:25:23 <Bugpowder__>	need space for the carseat.
Mar 26 17:25:42 <tiberiusiv>	electric cars are a disaster
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Mar 26 17:26:15 <dub>	as are european ones
Mar 26 17:26:22 <Lyspooner>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b2diz/bitcoinica_liquidation_it_is_likely_that_any/
Mar 26 17:26:50 <benkay>	us market topped in july
Mar 26 17:26:53 <benkay>	'11
Mar 26 17:26:59 <benkay>	btc bubble popped in oct
Mar 26 17:27:05 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 26 17:27:08 <tiberiusiv>	it peaked out way earlier
Mar 26 17:27:24 <Bugpowder__>	US market has not topped yet
Mar 26 17:27:26 <tiberiusiv>	it peaked out in june
Mar 26 17:27:38 <tiberiusiv>	2011
Mar 26 17:28:25 <tiberiusiv>	US market also bottomed out about 1month before bitcoin did
Mar 26 17:28:29 <tiberiusiv>	in 2011
Mar 26 17:28:31 <dub>	not sure that was related to any market
Mar 26 17:28:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Mar 26 17:28:47 <tiberiusiv>	they are all related because people are herding
Mar 26 17:28:57 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin due to its smaller size and illiquidity has excacerbated moves
Mar 26 17:29:05 <Bugpowder__>	BTC is pretty uncorrleated I would say
Mar 26 17:29:12 <tiberiusiv>	wrong
Mar 26 17:29:16 <tiberiusiv>	its not 1:1
Mar 26 17:29:16 <dub>	other than the one that got hacked, had all its coins sold off and destroyed confidence in btc in generall
Mar 26 17:29:25 <tiberiusiv>	but the trend correlation is there
Mar 26 17:29:38 <tiberiusiv>	BTC bottomed out roughly at the same time US stocks did in 2011
Mar 26 17:29:41 <tiberiusiv>	in the fall time
Mar 26 17:30:00 <tiberiusiv>	when the US market turns, BTC will fall too
Mar 26 17:30:12 <jurov>	us is irrelevent
Mar 26 17:30:25 <jurov>	everyone waits for govt to verify them
Mar 26 17:30:27 <tiberiusiv>	its about herding
Mar 26 17:30:31 <tiberiusiv>	market participants tend to herd
Mar 26 17:30:33 <jurov>	it's drive by eu atm
Mar 26 17:30:44 <tiberiusiv>	you arent understanding.
Mar 26 17:31:04 <tiberiusiv>	people tend to herd, you are either long the US dollar or short the US dollar/long another asset
Mar 26 17:31:20 <tiberiusiv>	when the US dollar catches a bid all other assets fall
Mar 26 17:31:25 <tiberiusiv>	including bitcoin.
Mar 26 17:31:33 <benkay>	listen to the orthodoxy
Mar 26 17:31:51 <tiberiusiv>	look at a BTC chart
Mar 26 17:32:00 <tiberiusiv>	peaked out roughtly same time US sp500 did, and bottomed out same time too
Mar 26 17:32:04 <jurov>	so this rally last 2 weeks is caused by usd doing something?
Mar 26 17:32:04 <tiberiusiv>	coincidence? not.
Mar 26 17:32:16 <tiberiusiv>	yes declining
Mar 26 17:32:21 <tiberiusiv>	same with Sp500
Mar 26 17:32:29 <tiberiusiv>	as liquidity increases assets go up
Mar 26 17:32:37 <tiberiusiv>	when credit/liquidity tightens they go down
Mar 26 17:32:52 <tiberiusiv>	rest of it is noise(news)
Mar 26 17:33:05 <tiberiusiv>	because in 2012 Bitcoin had 1000x more positives then in 2011, yet no new high was made.
Mar 26 17:33:21 <tiberiusiv>	coincidently a new high was made in 2013 at the same time US stocks were surging
Mar 26 17:34:59 <jurov>	there should have been a peak in also 2009 then, no?
Mar 26 17:35:18 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin had like what 50 people in 09?
Mar 26 17:35:21 <tiberiusiv>	http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?s[1][id]=TCMDO
Mar 26 17:35:22 <jurov>	..er..2010 i mean
Mar 26 17:35:27 <tiberiusiv>	this is whats providing the fuel for all assets
Mar 26 17:35:41 <tiberiusiv>	when that reverses everything will go down
Mar 26 17:36:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 100 @ 0.65 = 65 BTC [-]
Mar 26 17:36:15 <jurov>	so you are shorting, right?
Mar 26 17:36:27 <tiberiusiv>	nope
Mar 26 17:36:31 <tiberiusiv>	i cant predict the future
Mar 26 17:36:49 <Bugpowder__>	looks like you are having trouble predicting the past
Mar 26 17:36:52 <tiberiusiv>	both US stocks and BTC will top out roughly the same time
Mar 26 17:36:59 <tiberiusiv>	you will see
Mar 26 17:37:19 <tiberiusiv>	may not necessarily be the same day or week but roughtly +- few weeks
Mar 26 17:37:36 <tiberiusiv>	and based on the past, the Sp500 will give us clues
Mar 26 17:37:41 <tiberiusiv>	to when this latest move ends
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Mar 26 17:38:34 <jurov>	now why do you think that is?
Mar 26 17:38:57 <tiberiusiv>	remember people who bought BTC at the last high, had to wait nearly 2 years to get their $ back
Mar 26 17:38:58 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: becuase people HERD in all markets
Mar 26 17:39:03 <tiberiusiv>	they all do the same thing
Mar 26 17:39:13 <tiberiusiv>	in fiat world its excacerbated
Mar 26 17:39:17 <tiberiusiv>	by cheap fiat flooding assets
Mar 26 17:39:25 <tiberiusiv>	and contracting out of them
Mar 26 17:39:59 <tiberiusiv>	its not easy to see where cheap fiat flows into
Mar 26 17:40:04 <jborkl>	so by your terms, bitcoin will stop going up when the fed stops printing money, which will be never
Mar 26 17:40:37 <tiberiusiv>	nope btc will stop going up when crowd psycology reverses
Mar 26 17:41:05 <jborkl>	both US stocks and BTC will top out roughly the same time
Mar 26 17:41:17 <jurov>	and where else will the money go to, then?
Mar 26 17:41:18 <jborkl>	that is what you said, which is patently wrong
Mar 26 17:41:32 <tiberiusiv>	the sp500 is a better indicator of that because of its liquidity
Mar 26 17:41:33 <tiberiusiv>	hence why BTC tops and bottoms have lagged the sp500
Mar 26 17:41:33 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 26 17:41:40 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: you mean the bids
Mar 26 17:41:47 <tiberiusiv>	they vanish, hence why the price drops
Mar 26 17:41:51 <jurov>	the herd will start buying usg bonds? puhleaze
Mar 26 17:42:02 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 26 17:42:20 <jborkl>	800 million market cap for bitcoins, in the world economy is exactly shit
Mar 26 17:42:20 <tiberiusiv>	well in tightening liquidity USG bonds due rise
Mar 26 17:42:32 <tiberiusiv>	same case was made in 2011
Mar 26 17:42:32 <jborkl>	.000000001 percent
Mar 26 17:42:35 <tiberiusiv>	when it was 200mil
Mar 26 17:42:42 <jborkl>	maybe less
Mar 26 17:42:44 <tiberiusiv>	you can make all the fundamental claims you want
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Mar 26 17:42:48 <tiberiusiv>	they mean nothing.
Mar 26 17:43:03 <jborkl>	lol, ok w\e
Mar 26 17:43:07 <tiberiusiv>	BTC had superior fundamentals in 2012 then 2011 yet no new highs were made
Mar 26 17:43:09 <tiberiusiv>	its all about crowd psycology
Mar 26 17:43:24 <tiberiusiv>	you will see
Mar 26 17:43:29 <jborkl>	network hash rate is more important and adoption
Mar 26 17:43:33 <tiberiusiv>	i could have made the same market cap arguement in 2011 @ 30.
Mar 26 17:43:51 <jurov>	what fundamentals it did have?
Mar 26 17:43:53 <jborkl>	Friday is coming up- worried about your options?
Mar 26 17:43:57 <tiberiusiv>	both of those were higher in 2012.
Mar 26 17:44:04 <tiberiusiv>	did a new price high get set?
Mar 26 17:44:18 <tiberiusiv>	jbork1 worried you cant handle price declines?
Mar 26 17:44:25 <jborkl>	does not matter to me
Mar 26 17:44:45 <tiberiusiv>	those that end up buying btc near even a short term top will have to wait along time to get their $ back
Mar 26 17:44:45 <tiberiusiv>	just as 2011 holders waited 2 years
Mar 26 17:44:53 <Lyspooner>	how many of the 60,000 75puts did mircea_popescu buy?
Mar 26 17:44:57 <jurov>	certainly did not have an adoption in 2011
Mar 26 17:45:04 <tiberiusiv>	and i never said it would collapse
Mar 26 17:45:04 <tiberiusiv>	but it will decline when dollar liquidity tightens again
Mar 26 17:45:28 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: that was my point
Mar 26 17:45:29 <jborkl>	dollar liquidity is a oxymoron
Mar 26 17:45:33 <tiberiusiv>	there was more adoption, more everything in 2012
Mar 26 17:45:52 <jurov>	how can dollar liquidity tighten i current situation, i ask again?
Mar 26 17:45:53 <tiberiusiv>	but a NEW high was NOT set.
Mar 26 17:46:23 <tiberiusiv>	credit contraction
Mar 26 17:46:23 <tiberiusiv>	i just showed you the chart
Mar 26 17:46:31 <jurov>	and 2012 was adoption by scammers, real business adoption started only in recent months
Mar 26 17:46:42 <jborkl>	pointless argument, deflactionary currency compared to static supply
Mar 26 17:46:55 <jborkl>	deflationay
Mar 26 17:47:01 <jborkl>	nm
Mar 26 17:47:13 <jurov>	but how will credit contract? all these bad mortgages will magically get repaid?
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Mar 26 17:47:35 <jurov>	or bernanke will burn heaps of usd bannotes?
Mar 26 17:47:37 <jborkl>	add more 0'z to world debt
Mar 26 17:47:45 <jborkl>	0's
Mar 26 17:48:01 <tiberiusiv>	the feds balance sheet is only 3 trillion out of the 58 trillion of credit oustanding
Mar 26 17:48:01 <tiberiusiv>	5% credit contraction wipes out all of the feds printing
Mar 26 17:48:02 <tiberiusiv>	the price can still drop.
Mar 26 17:48:02 <tiberiusiv>	why are you argueing against that lol
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Mar 26 17:48:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [+]
Mar 26 17:48:23 <tiberiusiv>	shutup jbork seriously
Mar 26 17:48:24 <tiberiusiv>	im not even discussing that
Mar 26 17:48:24 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: NOPE
Mar 26 17:48:24 <tiberiusiv>	they wont get repaid
Mar 26 17:48:24 <tiberiusiv>	hence the CONTRACTION
Mar 26 17:48:24 <jurov>	ELI5 what is the credit contraction you're esposuing
Mar 26 17:48:25 <tiberiusiv>	once interest rates spike even a tiny bit, credit will collapse
Mar 26 17:48:25 <tiberiusiv>	as bond portfolios implode
Mar 26 17:48:26 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: again bernanke has created 3 trillion of credit against 58 trillion already outstanding
Mar 26 17:48:28 <tiberiusiv>	he would have to create 5-10x what hes doing now
Mar 26 17:48:42 <Diablo-D3>	yeah but tiberiusiv
Mar 26 17:48:48 <Diablo-D3>	you're forgetting one thing
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Mar 26 17:48:50 <tiberiusiv>	bernanke can only create dollars as long as the treasury market lets him.
Mar 26 17:49:00 <Diablo-D3>	no one cares about the dollar anymore
Mar 26 17:49:00 <tiberiusiv>	the bond market must accept low interest rates
Mar 26 17:49:04 <Diablo-D3>	tiberiusiv: WRONG
Mar 26 17:49:05 <tiberiusiv>	for bernanke to create credit
Mar 26 17:49:10 <Diablo-D3>	WRONG WRONG WRONG
Mar 26 17:49:15 <jborkl>	lol, I am out
Mar 26 17:49:15 <tiberiusiv>	its not wrong
Mar 26 17:49:21 <Diablo-D3>	he does NOT report to the treasury
Mar 26 17:49:23 <tiberiusiv>	if bond holders demand higher rats of interest
Mar 26 17:49:28 <Diablo-D3>	the federal reserve is NOT part of the treasury
Mar 26 17:49:37 <tiberiusiv>	i said TREASURY MARKET
Mar 26 17:49:39 <tiberiusiv>	BOND MARKET
Mar 26 17:49:49 <Diablo-D3>	[05:48:50] <tiberiusiv> bernanke can only create dollars as long as the treasury market lets him.
Mar 26 17:49:50 <TheSeven>	this channel is tripping my spam protection bot's flooding threshold :P
Mar 26 17:49:51 <Diablo-D3>	you said this
Mar 26 17:49:51 <tiberiusiv>	tbill, 30 years, etc
Mar 26 17:49:51 <tiberiusiv>	not the government institution
Mar 26 17:49:52 <tiberiusiv>	the bond market is willing to accept low interest rates
Mar 26 17:49:53 <TheSeven>	BOMB market? :P
Mar 26 17:49:55 <Diablo-D3>	[05:48:50] <tiberiusiv> bernanke can only create dollars as long as the treasury market lets him.
Mar 26 17:49:56 <jurov>	"Credit contractions are attempts to minimize or limit the amount of credit that is currently available to consumers." <<< but it's NOT possible anymore
Mar 26 17:49:57 <Diablo-D3>	thats what you said
Mar 26 17:50:03 <tiberiusiv>	diablo yes read what i said
Mar 26 17:50:09 <tiberiusiv>	AS LONG AS THE TREASURY MARKET LETS HIM
Mar 26 17:50:12 <tiberiusiv>	do you know what that means?
Mar 26 17:50:18 <tiberiusiv>	the market for US bonds.
Mar 26 17:50:33 <tiberiusiv>	its 16trillion+ market
Mar 26 17:50:34 <Diablo-D3>	the federal reserve does not issue bonds, so I dont understand what you're getting at
Mar 26 17:50:35 <jborkl>	they can't stop , or the bond traders don't get paid $20 mil for the year
Mar 26 17:50:44 <jborkl>	so, they don't give a shit
Mar 26 17:50:54 <Diablo-D3>	bernake reports to the 5 largest banks in the world
Mar 26 17:50:57 <tiberiusiv>	diablo: if the bond market demands HIGHER interest rates the value of BONDS falls
Mar 26 17:50:59 <tiberiusiv>	and ben bernankes printing stops
Mar 26 17:51:01 <Diablo-D3>	(which also happen to be the 5 largest banks in the US)
Mar 26 17:51:06 <tiberiusiv>	because the collateral he holds declines in value
Mar 26 17:51:25 <Diablo-D3>	tiberiusiv: no, if he doesn't do what hes told by the federal reserve board he is fired and replaced
Mar 26 17:51:27 <tiberiusiv>	bernanke can get away with money printing as long as the psycological mood in US bond market is positive.
Mar 26 17:51:34 <Diablo-D3>	the 5 largest banks tell him to keep printing money illegally
Mar 26 17:51:36 <tiberiusiv>	dude shutup.
Mar 26 17:51:38 <tiberiusiv>	you have no clue
Mar 26 17:51:46 <tiberiusiv>	he doesnt print money he extends credit.
Mar 26 17:51:49 <Diablo-D3>	the federal reserve does not have authorization from the US Federal government to print money
Mar 26 17:51:56 <tiberiusiv>	he cant extend credit if the assets he buys are not AAA quality
Mar 26 17:52:07 <tiberiusiv>	if the bond market raises rates
Mar 26 17:52:10 <tiberiusiv>	asset quality FALLS
Mar 26 17:52:23 <tiberiusiv>	bonds fall when interest rates rise
Mar 26 17:52:25 <jurov>	i repeat, bernanke can't get away with not extending credit anymore
Mar 26 17:52:28 <tiberiusiv>	he wont be able to purchase all supply
Mar 26 17:52:33 <jborkl>	and who exactly rates AAA credit? LOLOLOL
Mar 26 17:52:39 <jborkl>	fail
Mar 26 17:52:40 <tiberiusiv>	the market does.
Mar 26 17:52:43 <jborkl>	fail
Mar 26 17:52:45 <tiberiusiv>	through interest rates
Mar 26 17:53:01 <tiberiusiv>	at the moment the market is stating USG bonds are the safest and most liquid
Mar 26 17:53:02 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Mar 26 17:53:09 <tiberiusiv>	hence why the US is able to borrow at low rates
Mar 26 17:53:13 <Diablo-D3>	the two largest bond rater agencies are afraid of lowering the US credit rating
Mar 26 17:53:15 <tiberiusiv>	once that ENDS
Mar 26 17:53:22 <Bugpowder__>	"21.19 Cyprus Finance Minister Michael Sarris has said uninsured Laika depositors could face an 80pc haircut, and might have to wait up to seven years for a payout."
Mar 26 17:53:23 <tiberiusiv>	rating agencies are irrelevant
Mar 26 17:53:23 <Diablo-D3>	they dont want to die
Mar 26 17:53:26 <ThickAsThieves>	worst thing about putting someone on ignore is when no one else does
Mar 26 17:53:33 <Bugpowder__>	80% HAIRCUT
Mar 26 17:53:38 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: you ignored tiberiusiv?
Mar 26 17:53:40 <tiberiusiv>	diablo you are clueless.
Mar 26 17:53:47 <ThickAsThieves>	i go back and forth
Mar 26 17:53:50 <tiberiusiv>	i wont continue this
Mar 26 17:53:56 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: well, I did too
Mar 26 17:54:03 <tiberiusiv>	BTC will peak out around the same time as Sp500
Mar 26 17:54:07 <ThickAsThieves>	when i dont understand whats going on i have to turn him back on
Mar 26 17:54:20 <Diablo-D3>	tiberiusiv refuses to read the constitution
Mar 26 17:54:24 <Diablo-D3>	thats not my problem
Mar 26 17:54:32 <tiberiusiv>	huh?
Mar 26 17:54:38 <jborkl>	US is not AAA - fail
Mar 26 17:54:47 <tiberiusiv>	the market says it is.
Mar 26 17:54:47 <jborkl>	AA outlook negative
Mar 26 17:54:51 <jborkl>	fail
Mar 26 17:55:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 26 17:55:06 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6940247.63172 based on data since last change | 7288653.72639 based on data for last three days
Mar 26 17:55:08 <tiberiusiv>	US borrowing costs are the lowest in history.
Mar 26 17:55:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 26 17:55:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.49000, Best ask: 78.49001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 78.49001, 24 hour volume: 61542.22530806, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.94045
Mar 26 17:55:13 <tiberiusiv>	market says otherwise
Mar 26 17:55:13 <Bugpowder__>	the market says Treasuries are safe relative all the other shit out there
Mar 26 17:55:20 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 26 17:55:21 <jborkl>	dollar printing is highest in history
Mar 26 17:55:21 <Bugpowder__>	not that they are AAA
Mar 26 17:55:36 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: the way they are pricing treasuries is as a AAA country
Mar 26 17:55:36 <Bugpowder__>	currency of last resort is the dollar
Mar 26 17:55:37 <Namworld>	Stupid dollar printing..
Mar 26 17:55:51 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: exactly
Mar 26 17:55:51 <Bugpowder__>	tiberiusiv: if you can get away with it, why not
Mar 26 17:55:52 <Namworld>	People getting taxed, really.
Mar 26 17:56:00 <tiberiusiv>	and in a liquidity crisis, the dollar wins.
Mar 26 17:56:03 <Namworld>	Who needs taxes when you can print money?
Mar 26 17:56:04 <jborkl>	Robbed, exactly
Mar 26 17:56:12 <Bugpowder__>	gov will run up the debt until market forces them not to
Mar 26 17:56:20 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 26 17:56:29 <Bugpowder__>	there is no credible alternative reserve currency
Mar 26 17:56:34 <Bugpowder__>	yet
Mar 26 17:56:35 <tiberiusiv>	glad to know someone has a basic understanding.
Mar 26 17:56:40 <jborkl>	so your argument for bitcoin is wrong - as you just stated
Mar 26 17:56:46 <tiberiusiv>	when rates rise, and liquidity tightens up hard
Mar 26 17:56:56 <tiberiusiv>	almost ALL assets will drop
Mar 26 17:56:57 <tiberiusiv>	against the dollar.
Mar 26 17:57:13 <tiberiusiv>	including BTC.
Mar 26 17:57:18 <jborkl>	can not rise, because interest rates would go up- then they can't pay the bills- already in a death spiral
Mar 26 17:57:29 <jborkl>	just really slow
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Mar 26 17:57:34 <jborkl>	really really slow
Mar 26 17:57:37 <tiberiusiv>	not paying the bills is what a liquidity crisis is
Mar 26 17:58:07 <tiberiusiv>	anyway its hard to predict, but it is a scenario
Mar 26 17:58:31 <jborkl>	so, peoople are going to sell bitcoins to convert to $ to pay bills?
Mar 26 17:58:31 <Bugpowder__>	I really think that BTC is not being driven by macro liquidity right now, but speculative fever and capital flight
Mar 26 17:58:50 <tiberiusiv>	jborkl: the bids for BTC will dissapear.
Mar 26 17:58:59 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder__: I believe it is liquidity
Mar 26 17:59:02 <Bugpowder__>	it is an implausible reserve currency, that gains a little more traction each day.
Mar 26 17:59:02 <tiberiusiv>	you wont have who to sell too, thats why the price DROPS.
Mar 26 17:59:16 <jurov>	tiberiusic, so you really think ppl will start selling btc and buying US treasury bonds anytime???
Mar 26 17:59:24 <tiberiusiv>	they dont have to.
Mar 26 17:59:30 <Bugpowder__>	anyway. Nobody cares that cyprus just said 80% haircut over 100k now?
Mar 26 17:59:30 <jurov>	you imply they will
Mar 26 17:59:34 <tiberiusiv>	as i said, in a credit event dollars become scarce
Mar 26 17:59:37 <jborkl>	I am not concerned with price movement now, I got in - if it goes back to 30 or 40 w/e
Mar 26 17:59:39 <tiberiusiv>	meaning dollar BIDS
Mar 26 17:59:41 <tiberiusiv>	will shrink
Mar 26 17:59:50 <jurov>	;;bids 0
Mar 26 17:59:53 <gribble>	There are currently 36649783 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9609689.18993 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0173 seconds
Mar 26 17:59:55 <tiberiusiv>	hence why even gold dropped in 2008
Mar 26 17:59:59 <Bugpowder__>	all time high
Mar 26 18:00:02 <Bugpowder__>	9.6MM
Mar 26 18:00:21 <Bugpowder__>	tiberiusiv: that was due to margin calls
Mar 26 18:00:23 <jborkl>	well, if I need my btcoins next week I will worry about it then
Mar 26 18:00:24 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: you have a poor understanding on how markets function
Mar 26 18:00:45 <tiberiusiv>	you can go ahead and google the dollar credit contraction case
Mar 26 18:00:48 <tiberiusiv>	for a better understanding
Mar 26 18:00:51 <tiberiusiv>	debt deflation etc.
Mar 26 18:00:51 <Bugpowder__>	asset correlation approaches 1 in periods of crisis
Mar 26 18:00:54 <jurov>	yes everyone has poor understanding, except you
Mar 26 18:01:08 <jborkl>	Jurov, I guess you are a dumbass
Mar 26 18:01:09 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder is well informed from what i can see
Mar 26 18:01:18 <tiberiusiv>	the rest get riled up whens omeone says BTC can decline lol
Mar 26 18:01:48 <tiberiusiv>	my prediction is BTC will peakout roughly around the same time the SP500 does
Mar 26 18:01:58 <jborkl>	how many Bitcoins do you have Jurov- seem to doing ok I think
Mar 26 18:02:08 <jurov>	well, whole notion that ppl will sell en masse btc to buy us tresury bonds seems utterly ridiculous
Mar 26 18:02:14 <tiberiusiv>	i never said that
Mar 26 18:02:22 <jurov>	they will use all fiat and other assets to do so , not btc
Mar 26 18:02:25 <tiberiusiv>	i said US bonds do well under liquidity/credit contraction
Mar 26 18:02:29 <Bugpowder__>	tiberiusiv: the problem I have is that half of what you are saying makes perfect sense, but the other half is taking things quite a bit past what I consider reasonable
Mar 26 18:02:31 <tiberiusiv>	jurov learn to read.
Mar 26 18:02:35 <jborkl>	oyu think - sp500 and bitcon price are related
Mar 26 18:02:37 <jborkl>	you
Mar 26 18:02:42 <tiberiusiv>	they are
Mar 26 18:02:44 <jborkl>	bitcoin
Mar 26 18:02:47 <tiberiusiv>	not direct 1:1
Mar 26 18:02:49 <tiberiusiv>	but the trend
Mar 26 18:03:04 <jborkl>	you can read anything into a chart
Mar 26 18:03:06 <tiberiusiv>	both BTC SP500 peak out same time in 2011, bottom out same time in 2011, make new HIGHS same time 2013
Mar 26 18:03:07 <jurov>	yes but you reason that the correlation is caused bby credit contractions and us treasury bonds
Mar 26 18:03:25 <tiberiusiv>	the correlation is caused by dollar expansion and contraction
Mar 26 18:03:28 <jurov>	nice, so you've got two data point?
Mar 26 18:03:33 <jurov>	congrats
Mar 26 18:03:34 <tiberiusiv>	when dollars expand via credit expansion
Mar 26 18:03:37 <tiberiusiv>	ASSETS rise
Mar 26 18:03:42 <tiberiusiv>	when they contract
Mar 26 18:03:44 <tiberiusiv>	assets FALL
Mar 26 18:04:02 <tiberiusiv>	BTC has more exacerbated moves like down 80% or up 1000% because of its thin liquidity
Mar 26 18:04:11 <Bugpowder__>	BTC is not considered an asset yet
Mar 26 18:04:18 <Bugpowder__>	by nearly anyone
Mar 26 18:04:19 <Bugpowder__>	but us
Mar 26 18:04:28 <tiberiusiv>	its bid is still primarily USD based
Mar 26 18:04:44 <Bugpowder__>	Your explaination would make more sense if BTC was already established, had a market cap of >10BB
Mar 26 18:04:56 <Namworld>	Calls going up in value
Mar 26 18:05:04 <Bugpowder__>	I think other forces are driving BTCUSD here
Mar 26 18:05:10 <tiberiusiv>	i dont.
Mar 26 18:05:20 <Bugpowder__>	now these forces may be correlated to a macro sentiment shift
Mar 26 18:05:24 <jborkl>	World economy over $70 trilliion
Mar 26 18:05:24 <tiberiusiv>	its no coincidence both BTC and the US market are at highs
Mar 26 18:05:33 <Bugpowder__>	for example, flight to safety
Mar 26 18:05:39 <tiberiusiv>	jborkl shutup with those numbers.
Mar 26 18:05:46 <Bugpowder__>	= move to treasurys, move to BTC
Mar 26 18:05:47 <jborkl>	you are the idiot
Mar 26 18:05:49 <tiberiusiv>	they applied at $30 in 2011 too
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Mar 26 18:06:01 <jborkl>	you shut up with nonsense
Mar 26 18:06:07 <MJR_>	ugh
Mar 26 18:06:08 <tiberiusiv>	on ignore jborkl
Mar 26 18:06:19 <MJR_>	tiberiusiv: i think we are all adults and know what we are doing
Mar 26 18:06:28 <tiberiusiv>	oh great
Mar 26 18:06:32 <tiberiusiv>	here comes the BTC baller
Mar 26 18:06:37 <tiberiusiv>	with all of his 22.5 coins
Mar 26 18:06:41 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 26 18:06:42 <tiberiusiv>	im out.
Mar 26 18:06:46 <MJR_>	oh thank god
Mar 26 18:06:48 <jborkl>	bye fucktard
Mar 26 18:07:16 <MJR_>	srsly, for someone who hangs out in btc forums...he is constantly going on about how bad of an investment they are
Mar 26 18:07:24 <MJR_>	oh no, i'm scared of volatility
Mar 26 18:07:38 <Bugpowder__>	It's almost time for a ponzi chart update.
Mar 26 18:07:49 <Bugpowder__>	I want my fund value to hit 2BTC/share
Mar 26 18:07:55 <jurov>	yes, only if he could be baited to short... but no
Mar 26 18:07:59 <Namworld>	Fund value?
Mar 26 18:08:02 <MJR_>	i know!
Mar 26 18:08:08 <MJR_>	i'm like just go short if you are so bearish
Mar 26 18:08:17 <MJR_>	the most annoying people in the world don't practice what they preach
Mar 26 18:08:21 <Bugpowder__>	I express all my investments as shares in a 'fund'
Mar 26 18:08:31 <Bugpowder__>	with a NAV that stared at 1BTC
Mar 26 18:08:35 <jborkl>	maybe he should have shorted it with iambakell
Mar 26 18:08:39 <Namworld>	oh
Mar 26 18:08:49 <Namworld>	So there's no actual fund =P
Mar 26 18:08:52 <Bugpowder__>	well
Mar 26 18:08:54 <MJR_>	he offered smickles a bet that was without escrow two years from now
Mar 26 18:08:56 <MJR_>	...
Mar 26 18:08:57 <Bugpowder__>	I played around with it
Mar 26 18:09:10 <MJR_>	for 100 btc
Mar 26 18:09:17 <Bugpowder__>	Managed some coins for friends and family
Mar 26 18:09:18 <Bugpowder__>	but
Mar 26 18:09:50 <Bugpowder__>	I don't think I can legally offer investments outside of that group
Mar 26 18:11:17 <Bugpowder__>	so I shut it down after a few months
Mar 26 18:11:26 <Bugpowder__>	still keep the records
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Mar 26 18:12:01 <MJR_>	nice
Mar 26 18:12:28 <MJR_>	its a grey area...investment pools have different regulations from something offered to the public or qualified invvestors
Mar 26 18:13:16 <MJR_>	anyone know of a fix library for python?
Mar 26 18:13:24 <MJR_>	fixlib seems to be broken somehow
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Mar 26 18:17:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4068 @ 0.00063341 = 2.5767 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 18:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2555 @ 0.00449992 = 11.4973 BTC [-]
Mar 26 18:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00449997 = 1.8 BTC [+]
Mar 26 18:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00449998 = 3.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 18:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2879 @ 0.00449999 = 12.9555 BTC [+]
Mar 26 18:47:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01501 BTC [+]
Mar 26 18:47:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 18:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.68 = 6.8 BTC [-]
Mar 26 18:55:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.6499 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 18:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate diana_coman 1
Mar 26 18:56:34 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user diana_coman has been recorded.
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Mar 26 18:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 36 @ 0.68 = 24.48 BTC [-]
Mar 26 18:57:03 <dub>	no girls on internets
Mar 26 18:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	shh
Mar 26 18:57:29 <jurov>	you sexist
Mar 26 18:57:36 <jurov>	haha
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Mar 26 19:02:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1089 BTC [+]
Mar 26 19:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.68 = 2.72 BTC [-]
Mar 26 19:05:50 <Diablo-D3>	wow, I think gmaxwell is a shill for bfl
Mar 26 19:10:02 <Azelphur>	wow, I think Diablo-D3 is a shill for Ubuntu
Mar 26 19:10:20 <Diablo-D3>	Azelphur: I heard they're ending the ubuntu distro sometime in the next year or two
Mar 26 19:10:23 <Diablo-D3>	this makes me happy
Mar 26 19:10:35 <Azelphur>	I didn't hear this, this makes me sad, especially as I'm currently wearing my Ubuntu tshirt
Mar 26 19:11:04 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, they wanna focus on being a hardware… whatever it is they think they're doing
Mar 26 19:11:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6501 BTC [-]
Mar 26 19:11:22 <Azelphur>	fun
Mar 26 19:11:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 100 @ 0.65 = 65 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 19:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Mar 26 19:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	more like, unity failed so no money so fuck this
Mar 26 19:16:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009989 = 0.03 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 19:17:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.00999 = 0.0699 BTC [+]
Mar 26 19:18:50 <jurov>	btw, someone asked how many customers coinbr has
Mar 26 19:19:02 <jurov>	it's between 50-100 active accounts
Mar 26 19:19:06 <MJR_>	nice!
Mar 26 19:19:26 <jurov>	but whole coinbr is bigger that bitfinsex by a healthy margin
Mar 26 19:19:55 <MJR_>	huh, they are really ending ubuntu?
Mar 26 19:20:21 <iz>	i parsed "bitfinsex" incorrectly when scanning this scrollback..
Mar 26 19:20:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 60 @ 0.7 = 42 BTC [+]
Mar 26 19:21:13 <dub>	Diablo-D3 is right gmax is a bfl shill
Mar 26 19:21:30 <Diablo-D3>	dub: er, since when did you agree with me on anything?
Mar 26 19:21:48 <dub>	I've been banned from -mining for >6 months for suggesting their shipping schedule may not be accurate
Mar 26 19:22:03 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Mar 26 19:22:11 <Diablo-D3>	he kickbanned me then +q'ed me
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Mar 26 19:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00063879 = 3.6092 BTC [+]
Mar 26 19:23:11 <mircea_popescu>	he's just an idiot.
Mar 26 19:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	shills make money.
Mar 26 19:23:21 <dub>	that too
Mar 26 19:23:38 <dub>	presumably he is getting paid in blowjobs from Luke-Jr
Mar 26 19:23:50 <dub>	or some other bfl shill PT
Mar 26 19:24:31 <Diablo-D3>	yeah this is stupid
Mar 26 19:24:39 <Diablo-D3>	Im just going to stand back and let the whole thing collapse, really
Mar 26 19:27:24 <Diablo-D3>	people sometimes just refuse to learn
Mar 26 19:27:51 <KRS1>	i never understood the need for ubuntu *cough debian* anyway..
Mar 26 19:28:06 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 sorta like mpex gui
Mar 26 19:28:15 <Diablo-D3>	Ive been using debian for like 15 years
Mar 26 19:28:17 <Diablo-D3>	why change now
Mar 26 19:28:24 <KRS1>	glad to hear that..one less linux distro
Mar 26 19:28:53 <dub>	debian is good for when you want to actually use linux and not just be a douche
Mar 26 19:29:01 <Diablo-D3>	dub: exactly
Mar 26 19:29:07 <Diablo-D3>	although I dont like how they're discussing moving to systemd
Mar 26 19:29:15 <Diablo-D3>	if that happens, I think I may jump to alpine =/
Mar 26 19:29:37 <dub>	at some point most people outgrow douchery and realise debian is jesus
Mar 26 19:30:07 <dub>	unless they are freebsd douches who will always remain so
Mar 26 19:30:36 <KRS1>	lol sounds like someone didnt ever grow out of their training OS
Mar 26 19:30:49 <KRS1>	er pants
Mar 26 19:31:11 <dub>	pray tell what is your preffered *nix KRS1?
Mar 26 19:31:16 <dub>	inb4 slackware
Mar 26 19:32:08 <KRS1>	why tell you so i can be another douche
Mar 26 19:32:16 *	dub called it
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Mar 26 19:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	sweet, we haven't had a holy war here in like a month.
Mar 26 19:38:22 <Bugpowder>	Tiberius?
Mar 26 19:39:21 <jurov>	tiberius isn't war... although produced quite a flood tho
Mar 26 19:40:26 <jurov>	so when bitcoin stops rising there will be credit (among other things) crunch
Mar 26 19:40:32 <mircea_popescu>	holy war = "apple is better than windoze" "no slackware is better than sarge"
Mar 26 19:40:33 <jurov>	or was it other way round?
Mar 26 19:41:00 <jurov>	gäntoo rulez
Mar 26 19:41:27 <dub>	wat
Mar 26 19:42:07 <dub>	gentoo is the slamming your cock and balls in a door of linux
Mar 26 19:42:19 <jurov>	yeah feels so gooood
Mar 26 19:42:43 <jurov>	especially the hardened variety
Mar 26 19:43:31 <MJR_>	fuck...debian is the purest linux there really is
Mar 26 19:43:40 <MJR_>	don't know about ubuntu...not a big fan
Mar 26 19:43:46 <MJR_>	but fuck yum and that bullshit
Mar 26 19:43:46 <jurov>	debian is fine...but i have to compile newer stuff on it all the time anyway
Mar 26 19:43:48 <MJR_>	its apt-get
Mar 26 19:44:09 <MJR_>	to me it seems like they just reinvent the wheel in a lot of the others
Mar 26 19:44:21 <mircea_popescu>	apt-get ftw
Mar 26 19:44:23 <MJR_>	or make things so niche that like one guy is like "this is perfect!"
Mar 26 19:44:51 <MJR_>	but srsly, debian works, its simple and you can make it do anything...just how i like my women
Mar 26 19:44:58 <jurov>	oh, wasn't debian that fucked the keys? cuz they know better than upstream?
Mar 26 19:45:09 <MJR_>	not sure
Mar 26 19:45:16 <MJR_>	but debian is usually as upstream as you can get
Mar 26 19:45:22 <MJR_>	besides linux kernel
Mar 26 19:45:57 <MJR_>	not saying the other packages may not be off, but debian can run almost anything
Mar 26 19:46:43 <MJR_>	<dub> gentoo is the slamming your cock and balls in a door of linux :)
Mar 26 19:47:26 <MJR_>	i srsly don't get why not just fork debian and make apt-get do what you want...why create yum and rpl etc
Mar 26 19:47:40 <MJR_>	its like saying i'll start a new distro but i don't like cp
Mar 26 19:47:52 <MJR_>	i'm gonna make mine called rad or whatever
Mar 26 19:48:00 <dub>	its simpler to think of it like this: Some people use linux as a tool to accomplish their work, som use it because they are tools who don't have a job.
Mar 26 19:48:02 <MJR_>	trolling multiple people with very little effort
Mar 26 19:50:18 <MJR_>	if you are very good at linux...you don't have a job because you don't want one, or you are so annoying that no one can possibly work with you...at least in the US
Mar 26 19:50:18 <jurov>	well, in the beginning there was One Unix....errr no... there was actually sysv and bsd...
Mar 26 19:50:27 <MJR_>	yeah
Mar 26 19:50:36 <MJR_>	although sysV was first
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Mar 26 19:50:46 <MJR_>	so you could say that in the beginning there was one
Mar 26 19:51:25 <jurov>	well.. and that one was horrible hack for decommissioned microcomputer
Mar 26 19:51:31 <MJR_>	lol ywH
Mar 26 19:51:34 <jurov>	so everyone was like we must fix it
Mar 26 19:51:34 <MJR_>	YEAH
Mar 26 19:51:47 <MJR_>	yep...and i believe it was private...or was that the one before
Mar 26 19:52:08 <MJR_>	and wasn't it for DEC hardware?
Mar 26 19:52:40 <unbalanced_>	Bugpowder: just caught up. 80% haircut for "rich" Cypriots (a minority that won't march in the streets) and foreigners (EU/Russian retirees who saved all their lives but don't vote in Cyprus)... oh and Russian mafia, apparently
Mar 26 19:53:26 <unbalanced_>	Easy out for politicians. And they wonder why suddenly normal citizens look at something like Bitcoin and say "Tell me more"
Mar 26 19:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?! it ws 20%
Mar 26 19:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	now it's 80% ?
Mar 26 19:53:37 <jurov>	russian mafia = russian state enterprises. medvedev said loudly
Mar 26 19:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 26 19:54:13 <unbalanced_>	Cyprus Finance Minister: Uninsured Laiki Depositors Could Face 80% Haircut  http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20130326-712516.html
Mar 26 19:54:37 <unbalanced_>	Bugpowder was wondering why no one replied way above.
Mar 26 19:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	past this point it is irresponsible to keep wealth in banks/fiat.
Mar 26 19:55:01 <jurov>	even if not 80% , it will be paid years later.. so effectively 80% can be
Mar 26 19:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	you're way better off in ltc.
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Mar 26 19:57:06 <unbalanced_>	Like the Cyprus "solution", Florida has something similar for foreigners who buy retirement homes: out-of-state owners of Florida property apparently pay higher property taxes than their neighbours. Because they can't vote.
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Mar 26 19:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	neway im off. take care all
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Mar 26 20:01:33 <MJR_>	well, doesn't look like i am going to be breaking 80 anytime soon
Mar 26 20:03:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 26 20:03:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.69285, Best ask: 78.78770, Bid-ask spread: 0.09485, Last trade: 78.78770, 24 hour volume: 56531.03298970, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 77.25680
Mar 26 20:05:41 <dub>	I'm looking forward to breaking $2
Mar 26 20:05:59 <MJR_>	hmmm
Mar 26 20:06:13 <MJR_>	on bitfinex, is "swap" the interest you've paid?
Mar 26 20:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.68 = 1.36 BTC [-]
Mar 26 20:10:10 <ThickAsThieves>	google says, swap rate is a weighted average of the implied forward rates, where zero-coupon bond prices are used to determine the weights
Mar 26 20:10:15 <ThickAsThieves>	but i have no clue
Mar 26 20:10:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 4 @ 0.1304 = 0.5216 BTC [-]
Mar 26 20:10:33 <ThickAsThieves>	that could be about somehting else
Mar 26 20:10:50 <ThickAsThieves>	never used anything like bitfinex
Mar 26 20:11:31 <MJR_>	yeah...
Mar 26 20:11:38 <MJR_>	but there is no central bank rate for btc
Mar 26 20:11:45 <MJR_>	i think they just use that to sound like forex
Mar 26 20:11:54 <MJR_>	pretty sure its just your interest rate
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Mar 26 20:17:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00351 BTC [+]
Mar 26 20:17:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 580 @ 0.0035 = 2.03 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 20:28:40 <breadLover>	anyone think ASICMINER-PT will go any lower than .7 or is now a good time to buy?
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Mar 26 20:33:18 <Namworld>	idk
Mar 26 20:33:27 <Namworld>	Depends on other manufacturers, really
Mar 26 20:35:19 <Bugpowder>	It is worth .3
Mar 26 20:36:23 <ThickAsThieves>	bread, if we knew, the price wouldn't be at .7 anymore ;)
Mar 26 20:39:28 <Namworld>	Well they're only mining at 1/6th of what they expect to get with 50 TH in the work
Mar 26 20:39:45 <Namworld>	But really... if BFL ship all these monster rigs...
Mar 26 20:43:24 <dub>	its increasingly looking like they will ship something at some stage
Mar 26 20:43:43 *	jborkl is now known as dumbass
Mar 26 20:43:57 <dub>	those kanoi pics show a hell of a lot of fan boxes
Mar 26 20:44:13 *	dumbass is now known as Guest42728
Mar 26 20:45:22 *	Guest42728 is now known as enema
Mar 26 20:49:14 <ThickAsThieves>	"You are currently making use of a system which will be deprecated on Wed 10 Apr 2013 12:00:00 AM GMT:
Mar 26 20:49:14 <ThickAsThieves>	Generation of USD and CAD redeemable codes will not be possible due to legal issues
Mar 26 20:49:14 <ThickAsThieves>	Please note that after this date, using this system won't be possible anymore and will instead lead to an error.
Mar 26 20:49:14 <ThickAsThieves>	Thank you for your attention.
Mar 26 20:49:14 <ThickAsThieves>	System Staff
Mar 26 20:49:15 <ThickAsThieves>	Tibanne Co. Ltd."
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Mar 26 20:50:37 <dub>	where are you seeing this?
Mar 26 20:52:25 <dub>	a little concerned that I've seen no comms from gox about this coinlab shit
Mar 26 20:52:51 <dub>	who does it affect?
Mar 26 20:54:19 <toffoo>	gox mails you that when you withdraw to goxcode
Mar 26 20:54:38 <ThickAsThieves>	420 on the forums, trades dwolla for gox
Mar 26 20:54:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.7 = 21 BTC [+]
Mar 26 20:54:43 <ThickAsThieves>	he got that message
Mar 26 20:55:09 <toffoo>	mt mentioned the imminent demise of goxcodes quite some time ago
Mar 26 20:55:32 <dub>	so if you never withdraw USD you can keep trading USD/BTC with no change?
Mar 26 20:55:42 <toffoo>	apparently the U.S. regulators view them as "securities" or something
Mar 26 21:01:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 26 21:01:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 26 21:02:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;echo
Mar 26 21:03:35 <dub>	no griblle (or nano)
Mar 26 21:03:46 <dub>	((or gribble))
Mar 26 21:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 6 @ 0.07704009 = 0.4622 BTC [+]
Mar 26 21:06:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 3 @ 0.09383883 = 0.2815 BTC [+]
Mar 26 21:06:45 *	enema is now known as jborkl
Mar 26 21:07:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.34999 = 3.4999 BTC [+]
Mar 26 21:08:00 *	jborkl is now known as gribble
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Mar 26 21:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 5 @ 0.09436839 = 0.4718 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 21:17:31 <deadweasel>	GRIBBLE WHY HATH THOU FORSAKEN ME?
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Mar 26 21:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 5 @ 0.07813242 = 0.3907 BTC [+]
Mar 26 21:18:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [+]
Mar 26 21:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Mar 26 21:19:22 <ThickAsThieves>	about to break 80
Mar 26 21:19:53 <ThickAsThieves>	if the walls come down that is
Mar 26 21:19:57 <ThickAsThieves>	79.96
Mar 26 21:20:08 <ThickAsThieves>	.97
Mar 26 21:20:09 <Bowjob>	just an ordinary day at btcland
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Mar 26 21:20:40 <Bowjob>	nethead got butthurt i didnt lend him 100 BTC for his avalon 3
Mar 26 21:20:46 <Bowjob>	he deleted me from steam lol
Mar 26 21:22:30 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 26 21:23:50 <ThickAsThieves>	first big wall is getting munched on
Mar 26 21:24:02 <ThickAsThieves>	lag imminent?
Mar 26 21:24:29 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 26 21:24:36 <Bowjob>	you dont say
Mar 26 21:24:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:25:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00989 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 4 @ 0.09462346 = 0.3785 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 21:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.67 = 2.01 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.667 = 4.002 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.665 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.63 = 3.78 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.6000001 = 1.8 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.58 = 4.64 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.56 = 3.36 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.559 = 5.59 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.55700001 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.545 = 1.09 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.51 = 9.18 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.485 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:19 <Bugpowder>	Is gribble down?
Mar 26 21:35:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:35:20 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 26 21:35:23 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Mar 26 21:35:34 <Bugpowder>	No much pressure
Mar 26 21:36:08 <ThickAsThieves>	be our hero and buy us through 80 then :)
Mar 26 21:36:08 <Bowjob>	damn VTX
Mar 26 21:36:14 <Bowjob>	wat are you doing
Mar 26 21:36:16 <Bowjob>	stahp
Mar 26 21:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.65 = 8.25 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:37:48 <ThickAsThieves>	Bow do you own VTX?
Mar 26 21:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.8 = 9 BTC [+]
Mar 26 21:38:10 <ThickAsThieves>	(shares)
Mar 26 21:39:34 <Bowjob>	nah
Mar 26 21:39:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 26 21:39:52 <ThickAsThieves>	:(
Mar 26 21:43:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.59 = 5.9 BTC [+]
Mar 26 21:46:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063516 = 0.6352 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:46:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7385 @ 0.00063341 = 4.6777 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:46:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 499 @ 0.00062874 = 0.3137 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:46:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00062873 = 0.1886 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:46:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2681 @ 0.00062665 = 1.68 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:46:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1088 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 21:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00449998 = 0.675 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:58:07 <dub>	me thinks gox engine has had an upgrade
Mar 26 21:58:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150 @ 0.00062582 = 0.0939 BTC [-]
Mar 26 21:59:07 <Bowjob>	did we hit 80
Mar 26 22:00:02 <Bowjob>	yea we did
Mar 26 22:02:01 <Bowjob>	seems that casa coins are extremely valuable
Mar 26 22:03:48 <Chaang-Noi>	wall not going to last
Mar 26 22:03:51 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 80
Mar 26 22:04:21 <Bowjob>	shit. the government is gonna sieze our computers for them bitcoins
Mar 26 22:04:25 <Bowjob>	unlike gold.. which u can hide
Mar 26 22:04:31 <Chaang-Noi>	bot down?
Mar 26 22:04:35 <Bowjob>	yah
Mar 26 22:04:40 <Chaang-Noi>	grr
Mar 26 22:04:53 <Bowjob>	gox says 80
Mar 26 22:05:08 <Chaang-Noi>	i think wall is only 1250 left
Mar 26 22:05:10 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck yeah
Mar 26 22:05:22 <Bowjob>	861 actually
Mar 26 22:05:32 <Chaang-Noi>	and then 1500 to 82 lol
Mar 26 22:05:42 <ThickAsThieves>	80!
Mar 26 22:06:43 <Chaang-Noi>	to 80, not broken 80 (just yet)
Mar 26 22:06:59 <dub>	yes we have
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Mar 26 22:07:33 <Chaang-Noi>	did we break it? my data might be slow
Mar 26 22:07:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i still see 900 coins at 80 :/
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Mar 26 22:08:12 <Bowjob>	damn. ianbajewell
Mar 26 22:08:15 <Bowjob>	dat short
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Mar 26 22:09:11 <Namworld>	eheh
Mar 26 22:11:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 4 @ 0.08117836 = 0.3247 BTC [+]
Mar 26 22:11:38 <Namworld>	I need more funds to buy calls
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Mar 26 22:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15078 @ 0.00062582 = 9.4361 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:14:54 <Bowjob>	Mhm, I think I just figured out a risk free loan
Mar 26 22:15:03 <Bowjob>	how to be a lender risk fre
Mar 26 22:15:08 <Bowjob>	and win either way
Mar 26 22:15:52 <Namworld>	Let me in on that... if it's actually good at all...
Mar 26 22:15:59 <Namworld>	I'm sure there's a flaw somewhere
Mar 26 22:16:16 <Namworld>	I don't see any possible way to lend without risk
Mar 26 22:16:26 <Bowjob>	still working out the kinks,
Mar 26 22:16:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10879 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:16:55 <Bowjob>	since most users are in USD
Mar 26 22:17:04 <Bowjob>	mhm, 500 dollars loan sounds okay
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Mar 26 22:18:06 <dub>	;;ticker
Mar 26 22:18:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.00005, Best ask: 80.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00995, Last trade: 80.01000, 24 hour volume: 60471.30861568, 24 hour low: 74.05000, 24 hour high: 80.01000, 24 hour vwap: 77.81425
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Mar 26 22:20:53 <Chaang-Noi>	wow 81?
Mar 26 22:21:03 <Namworld>	raising fast!
Mar 26 22:21:19 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah get coffee come back and mis 80.XX
Mar 26 22:21:24 <Chaang-Noi>	oh well
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Mar 26 22:21:41 <Bugpowder_>	Fuuuuch yesssssh
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Mar 26 22:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 3 @ 0.08149561 = 0.2445 BTC [+]
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Mar 26 22:22:16 <Bugpowder_>	WINNING
Mar 26 22:22:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34999 BTC [+]
Mar 26 22:22:39 <dub>	lol
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Mar 26 22:23:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
Mar 26 22:23:30 <Namworld>	I love winning...
Mar 26 22:23:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:23:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 22:24:33 <Bugpowder_>	still so much bid pressure
Mar 26 22:24:35 <Bugpowder_>	;;bids 0
Mar 26 22:24:38 <gribble>	There are currently 36654544 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9464824.51934 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0171 seconds
Mar 26 22:24:44 <Namworld>	Why are there no more options?
Mar 26 22:24:55 <Namworld>	Almost 10 million USD in bids
Mar 26 22:24:59 <Bugpowder_>	mpoebot has been very slow to calculate all day
Mar 26 22:25:04 <Bugpowder_>	all week really
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Mar 26 22:25:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00441 = 0.0662 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:25:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 81 @ 0.00441 = 0.3572 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:25:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 317 @ 0.00441 = 1.398 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:26:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00415 = 0.0623 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:26:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 107 @ 0.00414 = 0.443 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:26:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 39 @ 0.00412 = 0.1607 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 22:26:54 <Chaang-Noi>	400 to 82 and 800 to pass 82
Mar 26 22:27:42 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 85
Mar 26 22:27:45 <gribble>	There are currently 4152.2265 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 345799.165382 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Mar 26 22:27:58 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 99.99
Mar 26 22:27:59 <gribble>	There are currently 21640.027 bitcoins offered at or under 99.99 USD, worth 2010325.97071 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.9621 seconds
Mar 26 22:27:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:28:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1043 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:28:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:28:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.1 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:28:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7 = 3.5 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 22:29:40 <Bugpowder_>	anyone buying calls?
Mar 26 22:30:09 <Bugpowder_>	smickles is selling
Mar 26 22:30:21 <ThickAsThieves>	how does that work?
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Mar 26 22:30:40 <Chaang-Noi>	if i had an account i would give them a good look over
Mar 26 22:32:07 *	thepok (~thepok@068-112-109-134.csn.tu-chemnitz.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Mar 26 22:32:33 <Bugpowder_>	Want to try coiner?
Mar 26 22:32:38 <Bugpowder_>	coinbr
Mar 26 22:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.55555555 = 1.1111 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:33:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 3 @ 0.08326811 = 0.2498 BTC [+]
Mar 26 22:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:36:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 3 @ 0.10049777 = 0.3015 BTC [+]
Mar 26 22:38:25 <ThickAsThieves>	i see different prices on coinbr.com vs mpex.co
Mar 26 22:38:32 <ThickAsThieves>	whats that?
Mar 26 22:38:56 <ThickAsThieves>	for options
Mar 26 22:40:00 <Bugpowder_>	life is fucking awesome
Mar 26 22:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 3 @ 0.083172 = 0.2495 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 220 @ 0.00449998 = 0.99 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:46:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
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Mar 26 22:48:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
Mar 26 22:49:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.715 = 13.585 BTC [+]
Mar 26 22:51:28 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 26 22:51:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.80000, Best ask: 81.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 81.10000, 24 hour volume: 62472.34119282, 24 hour low: 74.05000, 24 hour high: 81.75000, 24 hour vwap: 77.97634
Mar 26 22:51:47 <Bowjob>	we
Mar 26 22:51:53 <Bowjob>	wow
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Mar 26 22:53:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 105 @ 0.00459 = 0.482 BTC [+]
Mar 26 22:53:55 <Bugpowder_>	wtf
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Mar 26 22:54:00 <Bugpowder_>	sent 300 BTC to gox
Mar 26 22:54:05 <Bugpowder_>	32 confirms
Mar 26 22:54:09 <Bugpowder_>	not in my account yet
Mar 26 22:54:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 45 @ 0.004599 = 0.207 BTC [+]
Mar 26 22:55:19 <dub>	network is broken, time to panic sell
Mar 26 22:55:48 <Bugpowder_>	i can't
Mar 26 22:55:49 <Namworld>	gox sox cox
Mar 26 22:55:58 <Bugpowder_>	anyway
Mar 26 22:56:05 <Bugpowder_>	I'm not selling till i sell the calls
Mar 26 22:56:06 <Bowjob>	u selling?
Mar 26 22:56:19 <Bugpowder_>	don't want to depress the price ;-)
Mar 26 22:56:28 <Bowjob>	well if you sell, try not to dump
Mar 26 22:56:38 <Bowjob>	just put it as a wall and let bulls eat it
Mar 26 22:59:37 <Bugpowder_>	my shit would get gobbled instantly
Mar 26 22:59:41 <Bugpowder_>	I am a dribbler
Mar 26 22:59:45 <Bugpowder_>	not a waller
Mar 26 22:59:46 <Chaang-Noi>	coinbr hmm? different options site?
Mar 26 23:00:07 <benkay>	you are so far out of the loop
Mar 26 23:00:09 <benkay>	it's like
Mar 26 23:00:11 <Chaang-Noi>	bugpowder lol 2013, stillusing gox
Mar 26 23:00:12 <benkay>	<--- loop
Mar 26 23:00:17 <benkay>	you ----->
Mar 26 23:00:28 <benkay>	"options site"
Mar 26 23:00:32 <benkay>	wtf does that even mean
Mar 26 23:00:38 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 26 23:00:51 <benkay>	i ain't lolling bro
Mar 26 23:00:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont use 3rd party sites if i can avoid it
Mar 26 23:00:54 <tiberiusiv>	coinbr is a mpex broker
Mar 26 23:01:07 <tiberiusiv>	you dont have to pay the 30btc extortion to mp
Mar 26 23:01:11 <dub>	2013 and doesnt know what coinbr is
Mar 26 23:01:12 <Chaang-Noi>	i hold ltc/btc/and asic miner (held by the company not an exchange)
Mar 26 23:01:13 <benkay>	heh
Mar 26 23:01:16 <benkay>	extortion
Mar 26 23:01:34 <tiberiusiv>	coinbr is legit and fast
Mar 26 23:01:42 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 26 23:01:51 <Chaang-Noi>	coinbr.com ?
Mar 26 23:01:56 <tiberiusiv>	jurov runs it
Mar 26 23:02:01 <dub>	no https://coinbr.com/ref?c=A3R7Tstq16
Mar 26 23:02:04 <Chaang-Noi>	ill check it out
Mar 26 23:02:08 <breadLover>	i don't understand why ASICMINER-PT only holds ASICMINER shares until April 14th, 2013.. does that mean you just get a refund at that point?
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Mar 26 23:02:23 <Chaang-Noi>	beadlover lol what?
Mar 26 23:02:27 <Chaang-Noi>	link to text or something
Mar 26 23:02:37 <breadLover>	For each ASICMINER-PT, one ASICMINER will be purchased from a private party with whom the issuer has a contracted call option for 1000 ASICMINER shares lasting until April 4, 2013.
Mar 26 23:02:59 <breadLover>	or does that mean you can only purchase them until April 4, 2013
Mar 26 23:03:02 <ThickAsThieves>	you can ignore that
Mar 26 23:03:07 <Chaang-Noi>	oh that is dead
Mar 26 23:03:19 <Chaang-Noi>	i was on the other side of that option and he got the 1000 from me already
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Mar 26 23:03:34 <Chaang-Noi>	it took like 10 days to sell out
Mar 26 23:03:37 <ThickAsThieves>	bread,
Mar 26 23:03:49 <Chaang-Noi>	he has real stock now
Mar 26 23:03:56 <ThickAsThieves>	however you should note that BTCT does take 5% of dividends right?
Mar 26 23:04:04 <ThickAsThieves>	whereas Bitfunder takes 0%
Mar 26 23:04:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i think they changed that?
Mar 26 23:04:16 <breadLover>	i did not know that. is BTCT the only option for ASICMINER-PT?
Mar 26 23:04:21 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe
Mar 26 23:04:36 <Bugpowder_>	bitfunder
Mar 26 23:04:38 <Chaang-Noi>	btct.co and bitfunder.com both have asicminer pt
Mar 26 23:04:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd have to check, BCTC changed the deal a few times
Mar 26 23:04:41 <breadLover>	so 5% from BTCT and 5% from the passthrough so 10% in total loss
Mar 26 23:04:54 <Chaang-Noi>	how have different fees and advantagtes, read the two related threads and check out their sites
Mar 26 23:05:01 <ThickAsThieves>	bread, no
Mar 26 23:05:03 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitfunder.com/G.ASICMINER-PT
Mar 26 23:05:12 <ThickAsThieves>	no fees there
Mar 26 23:05:16 <Chaang-Noi>	breadlover no that is not correct, btct.co does not charge 5% like claims, im almost sure
Mar 26 23:05:25 <ThickAsThieves>	other than normal fees if you sell your shares
Mar 26 23:05:40 <Chaang-Noi>	both exchanges charge fees to sell shares
Mar 26 23:06:07 <ThickAsThieves>	sry that link was bad
Mar 26 23:06:08 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.ASICMINER-PT
Mar 26 23:06:13 <Chaang-Noi>	bitfunder wont let you move less than 250 or so shares offf the exchange, both have differnet things about them so check out both sites and the threads on the bitcointalk.org forum
Mar 26 23:06:41 <ThickAsThieves>	also each will have different share prices
Mar 26 23:06:58 <ThickAsThieves>	which can change in a moment
Mar 26 23:07:04 <dub>	I'll sell you some real chares at 2btc
Mar 26 23:07:06 <breadLover>	i'm buying a small quantity (approx 17-20 shares)
Mar 26 23:07:26 <breadLover>	dub, thanks but that is an incredibly unnappealing offer
Mar 26 23:07:55 <dub>	but available for a limited time only
Mar 26 23:07:56 <breadLover>	so i guess i'll go with btc-tc since apparently i can't move less than 250 off the exchange?
Mar 26 23:08:12 <ThickAsThieves>	do you ever plan to move them?
Mar 26 23:08:21 <breadLover>	i don't know.. why would i?
Mar 26 23:08:26 <ThickAsThieves>	good question
Mar 26 23:08:31 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 26 23:08:54 <breadLover>	move them from one exchange to the other?
Mar 26 23:09:02 <ThickAsThieves>	that would be one reason
Mar 26 23:09:07 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 26 23:09:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 81.28250, Best ask: 81.49997, Bid-ask spread: 0.21747, Last trade: 81.28250, 24 hour volume: 64010.89470521, 24 hour low: 74.05000, 24 hour high: 81.78325, 24 hour vwap: 78.07696
Mar 26 23:09:13 <smickles>	oh my
Mar 26 23:09:33 <Bowjob>	i dreamt i was hashing
Mar 26 23:09:39 <Bowjob>	then i woke up
Mar 26 23:09:40 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 26 23:09:52 <breadLover>	do the price of the shares fluctuate with the bitcoin price? for example if btc goes to 100 will the shares drop to .65 maybe?
Mar 26 23:09:59 <dub>	heh I dreamed bfl shipped last night
Mar 26 23:10:04 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 26 23:10:12 <dub>	forealz
Mar 26 23:10:14 <Bowjob>	that should put you into lucid state instantly
Mar 26 23:10:19 <breadLover>	that'd be more of a nightmare for me
Mar 26 23:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 2 @ 0.09979765 = 0.1996 BTC [-]
Mar 26 23:10:40 <dub>	its win-win for me if the ship or not
Mar 26 23:10:55 <Bowjob>	how is it  a win for you
Mar 26 23:11:02 <smickles>	;;calc 73/(1-.0997)
Mar 26 23:11:02 <gribble>	81.0840830834
Mar 26 23:11:34 <dub>	diff is still low enough to recoup if they ship, AM has covered teh loss if they don't
Mar 26 23:11:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.08260302 = 0.1652 BTC [-]
Mar 26 23:12:30 <Bowjob>	the moon is so pretty tonight
Mar 26 23:14:43 <smickles>	someone is buying options
Mar 26 23:15:09 <ThickAsThieves>	not many
Mar 26 23:15:22 <smickles>	well, i'm not selling that many, i'm a small fish
Mar 26 23:15:44 <smickles>	more oughtta be up about now
Mar 26 23:15:58 <smickles>	my bot runs in cycles
Mar 26 23:16:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.08430303 = 0.1686 BTC [+]
Mar 26 23:16:18 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 26 23:16:19 <gribble>	78.01
Mar 26 23:16:41 <smickles>	;;ticker --last
Mar 26 23:16:41 <gribble>	81.00000
Mar 26 23:16:45 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 26 23:16:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.71901, Best ask: 81.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28099, Last trade: 81.00000, 24 hour volume: 64029.14403650, 24 hour low: 74.05000, 24 hour high: 81.78325, 24 hour vwap: 78.08429
Mar 26 23:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.8 = 18 BTC [+]
Mar 26 23:18:30 <breadLover>	looking back at how much ASICMINER has payed over the last month, in relation to the current share price is not very attractive. They've only payed approximately 10% of the price of one share
Mar 26 23:18:41 <breadLover>	in dividends
Mar 26 23:18:59 <dub>	they have paid 100% of the IPO price
Mar 26 23:19:17 <smickles>	god, 10% in one month
Mar 26 23:19:21 <smickles>	so low
Mar 26 23:19:23 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 26 23:19:30 <ThickAsThieves>	bread, whats better?
Mar 26 23:19:34 <dub>	pirate
Mar 26 23:19:38 <dub>	oh wait
Mar 26 23:19:39 <Bowjob>	it should be 1% a day
Mar 26 23:19:40 <breadLover>	pirate
Mar 26 23:19:43 <breadLover>	oh god
Mar 26 23:19:47 <breadLover>	bad memories
Mar 26 23:19:56 <Bowjob>	who here got screwed by this guy
Mar 26 23:20:06 <Bowjob>	he seems to get off scott free
Mar 26 23:20:16 *	breadLover embarassingly raises his hand
Mar 26 23:20:43 <ThickAsThieves>	part of me wishes i got into bitcoin early, another part realizes i probly woulda gotten burned with eveyrone else
Mar 26 23:21:02 <breadLover>	I guess 10%/month is high in relative terms? I'm pretty new to this
Mar 26 23:21:17 <Bowjob>	the best time to buy was 2 dollars
Mar 26 23:21:18 <smickles>	breadLover: consider that it's 120% per year
Mar 26 23:21:22 <Bowjob>	hwhen everyone got burned
Mar 26 23:21:43 <ThickAsThieves>	10% is high by any terms probly
Mar 26 23:21:44 <smickles>	when most good, income based, investments pay 5% or so a year
Mar 26 23:21:47 <Bowjob>	see if you got it for pennies on the dollar, you'd prolly dump it at 2 dollars
Mar 26 23:22:52 <ThickAsThieves>	bread,
Mar 26 23:22:59 <ThickAsThieves>	if you are uncertain about AM
Mar 26 23:23:07 <ThickAsThieves>	you could always wait til Thurs/Fri
Mar 26 23:23:17 <breadLover>	what happens then?
Mar 26 23:23:18 <ThickAsThieves>	then you'd know new info
Mar 26 23:23:21 <ThickAsThieves>	2 thinsg
Mar 26 23:23:33 <ThickAsThieves>	1. You'd know what the next dividend looks like
Mar 26 23:23:39 <ThickAsThieves>	because it gets issued tomorrow
Mar 26 23:23:55 <ThickAsThieves>	2. AM gives a forum update on Thurs/Fris
Mar 26 23:24:02 <ThickAsThieves>	but if you wait
Mar 26 23:24:07 <ThickAsThieves>	you miss this dividend
Mar 26 23:24:22 <dub>	and it might send the price up
Mar 26 23:24:25 <breadLover>	judging by the other dividends it should be about .02 per share
Mar 26 23:24:38 <smickles>	the dividend is based off of mining, right?
Mar 26 23:24:46 <dub>	breadLover: no
Mar 26 23:24:47 <breadLover>	so essentially it'd be like me buying the shares at .72 instead of .7 if i buy after the dividend
Mar 26 23:24:53 <smickles>	it'll probably never be higher than now
Mar 26 23:25:11 <dub>	breadLover: this is the week when teh real dividend starts, the one that is less than half what it was
Mar 26 23:25:34 <breadLover>	so .01 then?
Mar 26 23:25:45 <ThickAsThieves>	uknown
Mar 26 23:25:48 <dub>	last week they finished paying off the IPO price to the "200k" shares sold at IPO
Mar 26 23:25:49 <ThickAsThieves>	unknown
Mar 26 23:26:14 <ThickAsThieves>	could be anywhere from .005-.015
Mar 26 23:26:19 <dub>	this week teh div goes to all "400k" shares, less any operating costs or investment money they decide to keep
Mar 26 23:26:44 <dub>	share counts are quoted because its not clear what they actually are
Mar 26 23:26:55 <dub>	theres ~45k shares unaccounted for
Mar 26 23:26:57 <breadLover>	yea i read something about 35k unsold
Mar 26 23:27:16 <breadLover>	hence the drop in price
Mar 26 23:27:42 <breadLover>	judging on past dividend payments it doesn't seem like they affect the price of the share so i may simply wait since it is quite insignificant
Mar 26 23:27:44 <dub>	I doubt thats got much to do with it
Mar 26 23:28:14 <dub>	theres also the question of another 6Th of chips not online yet and another 50Th coming in a few weeks
Mar 26 23:28:33 <dub>	and the question of china
Mar 26 23:29:33 <dub>	that nothing you might reasonably expect to occur necessarily will and everything could vanish at any time
Mar 26 23:30:30 <breadLover>	yea there are a lot of pirates in the bitcoin world
Mar 26 23:31:32 <breadLover>	could it be that ASICMINER is another ponzi? how much proof have they provided? So far I have only seen text
Mar 26 23:32:26 <breadLover>	or does it simply not work that way, as btc-tc and bitfunder are third parties that protect against this?
Mar 26 23:32:35 <dub>	theres an awful lot of hashpower they seem to control
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Mar 26 23:33:19 <Namworld>	the exchanges in no way offer any protection/help/recourse against issuers/operators
Mar 26 23:33:32 <MJR__>	yay!
Mar 26 23:33:37 <MJR__>	NATH
Mar 26 23:33:49 <dub>	im less concerned with fiedcat and co pulling a fast one than that they are in china
Mar 26 23:34:38 <dub>	chinese people enter into any endeavour with the knowledge that nothign is certain, contracts, laws etc means nothing there
Mar 26 23:34:39 <jcpham>	Omg guys i got a new dog
Mar 26 23:34:45 <jcpham>	That shit is baller
Mar 26 23:34:52 <smickles>	jefe?
Mar 26 23:35:02 <jcpham>	Jefe!
Mar 26 23:35:09 <smickles>	cool name
Mar 26 23:35:23 <jcpham>	It means "i'm the shit"
Mar 26 23:35:28 <jcpham>	In spanish
Mar 26 23:36:10 <jcpham>	Or that's what the guy said that sold it to me
Mar 26 23:36:26 <jcpham>	I dunno. Are bitcoins worth a bajillion dollars yet?
Mar 26 23:36:40 <dub>	2 bajillion
Mar 26 23:36:48 <jcpham>	Nice
Mar 26 23:37:17 <tiberiusiv>	no different hten mp dumping extremely overvalued shares
Mar 26 23:37:47 <tiberiusiv>	50mil mp market cap for mpex when $10k a day of shares exchange hands.
Mar 26 23:37:49 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 26 23:37:50 <jcpham>	Mp is here to take profits
Mar 26 23:37:53 <jcpham>	Protip
Mar 26 23:38:01 <jcpham>	Invest appropriately
Mar 26 23:38:52 <tiberiusiv>	137`977 x 0.00062 = 85btc of volume today
Mar 26 23:38:54 <tiberiusiv>	of mpex shares
Mar 26 23:39:14 <tiberiusiv>	$6800 of what he says is worth 50mil.
Mar 26 23:39:47 <dub>	its whats called a bitcoin valuation
Mar 26 23:39:58 <tiberiusiv>	jcpham: take profits? by which you mean convince people into paying for his worthless stake.
Mar 26 23:40:17 <jcpham>	Also if you are going to blather on at least cite sources
Mar 26 23:40:25 <tiberiusiv>	go on the site.
Mar 26 23:40:29 <jcpham>	Market making, profit taking
Mar 26 23:40:31 <tiberiusiv>	the volume is nothing
Mar 26 23:40:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 20 @ 0.002014 = 0.0403 BTC [-]
Mar 26 23:40:49 <tiberiusiv>	if i sell you a bag of air for 5k, thats not a profit its a scam
Mar 26 23:41:00 <tiberiusiv>	by telling you its magic
Mar 26 23:41:07 <jcpham>	I'm not sure i understand but i still miss eskimobob
Mar 26 23:41:14 <tiberiusiv>	theres nobody on mpex trading tens of millions
Mar 26 23:41:16 <tiberiusiv>	of options
Mar 26 23:41:24 <tiberiusiv>	other then mp and his bots
Mar 26 23:41:34 <jcpham>	...and
Mar 26 23:41:36 <tiberiusiv>	considering the majority of mpex users are on here and nobody has a huge ammount of coins
Mar 26 23:41:49 <jcpham>	Please, do continue, i'm fascinated
Mar 26 23:41:50 <tiberiusiv>	whose doing the 1000BTC trades on mpex on here.
Mar 26 23:41:52 <tiberiusiv>	thats right noone
Mar 26 23:42:00 <jcpham>	Really!
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Mar 26 23:42:12 <jcpham>	Can you be specific?
Mar 26 23:42:20 <tiberiusiv>	sush jcpham
Mar 26 23:42:26 <smickles>	i'i'veii've seen mp criticized for not selling his overpriced shares, and i've seen him criticized for selling his overpriced shares
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Mar 26 23:42:33 <smickles>	dude wins either way
Mar 26 23:42:37 <tiberiusiv>	he is selling them smickles
Mar 26 23:42:43 <tiberiusiv>	they are constantly available @ the high ask price.
Mar 26 23:42:50 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: i know
Mar 26 23:43:00 <tiberiusiv>	for example bbet has an income of $100 a month
Mar 26 23:43:03 <smickles>	he has a public plan for how he is selling them
Mar 26 23:43:03 <jcpham>	Let me get the bitcoin-police in here, i'll be right back
Mar 26 23:43:06 <ThickAsThieves>	oh god you guys are feeding tib again?
Mar 26 23:43:09 <tiberiusiv>	and mp is trying to get people to pay him $1million
Mar 26 23:43:12 <jcpham>	I need to call the sec also
Mar 26 23:43:30 <tiberiusiv>	typical romanian scamartist
Mar 26 23:43:39 <tiberiusiv>	that place is the #1 in europe for internet fraud
Mar 26 23:44:03 <tiberiusiv>	theres entire villages in romania where people perform fraud online for income.
Mar 26 23:44:20 <jcpham>	Citation of sources
Mar 26 23:44:25 <jcpham>	Over and over
Mar 26 23:44:25 <tiberiusiv>	google it.
Mar 26 23:44:27 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: what i was talking about was when he didn't have any asks on the market, some people were bitching at him for it
Mar 26 23:44:29 <dub>	tiberiusiv: you have a vandroiy complex
Mar 26 23:44:30 <tiberiusiv>	do your own research
Mar 26 23:44:36 <jcpham>	Fuck your google i was here first
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Mar 26 23:44:56 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.france24.com/en/20121207-reporters-romania-hackerville-ramnicu-valcea-cyber-crime-fraud-scams-hackers-internet-police-fbi-cia-bitdefender
Mar 26 23:44:59 <dub>	and the thing about vandroiy is that even though he was right, he's still a dick for carpping on about it endlessly
Mar 26 23:45:00 <jcpham>	The internet comes to me
Mar 26 23:45:06 <smickles>	;;lucky romanian scam exchange
Mar 26 23:45:06 <tiberiusiv>	theres hundreds of these
Mar 26 23:45:06 <gribble>	http://wikitravel.org/en/Common_scams
Mar 26 23:45:11 <jcpham>	One does not simply google
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Mar 26 23:45:15 <tiberiusiv>	lol dub
Mar 26 23:45:31 <tiberiusiv>	romania is the largest fraud hub in europe and one of thelargest if not in the world
Mar 26 23:45:38 <Namworld>	tiberius: 759,477 per day...
Mar 26 23:45:57 <da2ce7>	New Open Transactions release for windows: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77301
Mar 26 23:45:59 <da2ce7>	:)
Mar 26 23:46:00 <Namworld>	You're taking the sales today and assuming it applies everyday
Mar 26 23:46:03 <tiberiusiv>	namworld of what? him trading with himself?
Mar 26 23:46:10 <da2ce7>	of course, hop into #opentransactions for support
Mar 26 23:46:11 <smickles>	da2ce7: nice
Mar 26 23:46:13 <tiberiusiv>	he hasnt been that active here in 2 days and volumes have collapsed.
Mar 26 23:46:14 <Namworld>	no, just what it shows
Mar 26 23:46:29 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: volumes have tanked in the last 2 days conveniently as hes not around..
Mar 26 23:46:35 <jcpham>	2 days wtfbomb
Mar 26 23:46:36 <smickles>	volumes have collapsed?
Mar 26 23:46:37 <tiberiusiv>	they pickup when hes active just watch
Mar 26 23:46:44 <tiberiusiv>	of mpex shares
Mar 26 23:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00062539 = 8.3177 BTC [-]
Mar 26 23:46:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00062582 = 8.8241 BTC [+]
Mar 26 23:46:52 <smickles>	lol
Mar 26 23:46:55 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 26 23:47:08 <smickles>	$vwap mpoe
Mar 26 23:47:09 <mpexbot>	smickles: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00063623 high: 0.00064816 low: 0.00062539 volume: 165377 btc: 105.21706284 7 day: average: 0.00068865 high: 0.00077505 low: 0.00062539 volume: 2101789 btc: 1447.38656098 30 day: average: 0.0007405 high: 0.00078628 low: 0.00062539 volume: 22793223 btc: 16878.4827406
Mar 26 23:47:18 <Namworld>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MPOE look at the volume bar... it didn't crash these last two days, it's actually quite common.
Mar 26 23:47:30 <tiberiusiv>	yes its him trading with himself.
Mar 26 23:47:35 <smickles>	;;calc 16878/30
Mar 26 23:47:35 <gribble>	562.6
Mar 26 23:47:37 <tiberiusiv>	theres nobody that actually owns mpex shares ask around
Mar 26 23:47:40 <tiberiusiv>	couple of people
Mar 26 23:47:45 <tiberiusiv>	that own 1-2 btc worth
Mar 26 23:47:54 <smickles>	;;calc 1447/7
Mar 26 23:47:54 <gribble>	206.714285714
Mar 26 23:47:54 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 26 23:47:59 <Chaang-Noi>	no one? lol
Mar 26 23:48:04 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 85
Mar 26 23:48:05 <tiberiusiv>	couple of btc here and there
Mar 26 23:48:06 <gribble>	There are currently 4579.7438 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 381350.891872 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 26 23:48:14 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: i know that's wrong
Mar 26 23:48:34 <tiberiusiv>	hell look at mpex listings
Mar 26 23:48:39 <tiberiusiv>	its his own companies and then SDICE
Mar 26 23:48:47 <smickles>	i used to broker mpex for people
Mar 26 23:48:49 <tiberiusiv>	he has 1 unique listing that isnt him
Mar 26 23:49:52 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: you are poor, you will do anything for a puppet master if they promise you riches.
Mar 26 23:50:02 <tiberiusiv>	no surprise youd broker anything.
Mar 26 23:50:25 <tiberiusiv>	mp is your typical romanian scammer posing as a respected businessman
Mar 26 23:50:30 <tiberiusiv>	they are professionals at it.
Mar 26 23:50:41 <tiberiusiv>	and bitcoin opens a new avenue for old schemes
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Mar 26 23:51:32 <Namworld>	Serious tiberiusiv >.>
Mar 26 23:51:40 <tiberiusiv>	in romania its easy to buy judges police so you are immune if something arrises legally/criminally etc. hence why out of all the locations he sits there.
Mar 26 23:51:58 <Namworld>	There's enough people trading on there for me to believe at least most of trades are legitimate.
Mar 26 23:51:58 <tiberiusiv>	a judge in RO is $500
Mar 26 23:52:06 <tiberiusiv>	namworld agreed
Mar 26 23:52:07 <jcpham>	Citation of sources
Mar 26 23:52:11 <jcpham>	Over and over
Mar 26 23:52:11 <smickles>	Namworld: at least tiberiusiv is better than ciuciu
Mar 26 23:52:23 <tiberiusiv>	jcpham shutup. go research your own sources.
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Mar 26 23:52:26 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberisiv oh lol, you have nothing better to do with your life?? since you know so much why dont you just go do it? why waste time trollin?
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Mar 26 23:52:27 <tiberiusiv>	mp is smart
Mar 26 23:52:35 <tiberiusiv>	he knows hes 100% immune in romania
Mar 26 23:52:38 <jcpham>	I want a link to a $500 judge otherwise it is heresay
Mar 26 23:52:42 <tiberiusiv>	hence why he refuses to step in US etc.
Mar 26 23:52:47 <jcpham>	It doesn't help your case
Mar 26 23:52:51 <tiberiusiv>	ask him yourself how much police/judges cost.
Mar 26 23:53:22 <jcpham>	Ijs ramblin' man
Mar 26 23:53:24 <tiberiusiv>	i mean the guy isnt stupid lol
Mar 26 23:53:26 <jcpham>	Ramble on
Mar 26 23:53:41 <tiberiusiv>	when youve got armies of jcpham's, MJR's you become wealthy fast.
Mar 26 23:54:05 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: what do you suggest i do about it then?
Mar 26 23:54:09 <jcpham>	Independant and don't give a fuck about mpex success
Mar 26 23:54:19 <jcpham>	No account, no assetts
Mar 26 23:54:20 <tiberiusiv>	yea independant
Mar 26 23:54:25 <jcpham>	So lick me
Mar 26 23:54:38 <tiberiusiv>	jcpham you just another broke 9-5er
Mar 26 23:54:45 <jcpham>	Yes
Mar 26 23:54:49 <tiberiusiv>	sush
Mar 26 23:54:49 <jcpham>	Definitely
Mar 26 23:55:08 <smickles>	i'm actually a small business owner, ftr
Mar 26 23:55:20 <tiberiusiv>	peddling mpex accounts?
Mar 26 23:55:22 <jcpham>	I run a well oiled disinformation campaign
Mar 26 23:55:27 <jcpham>	This is true
Mar 26 23:55:29 <smickles>	me? no, accountant
Mar 26 23:56:04 <Chaang-Noi>	im as goat, i eat tin cans
Mar 26 23:56:15 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: still on a boat?
Mar 26 23:56:15 <jcpham>	Goats eat anything
Mar 26 23:56:19 <dub>	I like how the successfull baller tiberiusiv takes the time to educate us poor fools on IRC
Mar 26 23:56:28 <tiberiusiv>	thanks dub
Mar 26 23:56:35 <jcpham>	Dude i'm poor as fuck
Mar 26 23:56:39 <tiberiusiv>	jcpham: so do asians
Mar 26 23:56:41 <Chaang-Noi>	i am on a boat!!!
Mar 26 23:56:57 <smickles>	glad to hear it Chaang-Noi :)
Mar 26 23:57:02 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 26 23:57:06 <tiberiusiv>	chaang-noi is puppy for dinner tonight :D
Mar 26 23:57:06 <jcpham>	I was thinking of applying for btcjam
Mar 26 23:57:23 <Chaang-Noi>	once i make a million usd im going to take my boat to antartica!
Mar 26 23:57:40 <Chaang-Noi>	tibrisuzivock not tonight, but i have had it before,
Mar 26 23:57:54 <tiberiusiv>	dog isnt that popular in thailand i dont think
Mar 26 23:57:58 <jcpham>	Did eskimobob stereotype everyone
Mar 26 23:58:01 <dub>	dog aint that bad
Mar 26 23:58:09 <Chaang-Noi>	it is in the mountians in the north where i \hike
Mar 26 23:58:15 <dub>	and chances are you've had it too
Mar 26 23:58:33 <Chaang-Noi>	dog is not that great, its okay, its really really gressy
Mar 26 23:58:42 <jcpham>	Gross
Mar 26 23:59:00 <jcpham>	I'd rather eat a cat
Mar 26 23:59:03 <smickles>	if it tastes like butter, i'm in
Mar 26 23:59:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i ahve never ever knowingly had cat, and i have eating a lot of differnt animalz
Mar 26 23:59:29 <tiberiusiv>	is thailand still cheap to live in chaang-noi?
Mar 26 23:59:34 <Chaang-Noi>	hell iv had elephant
Mar 26 23:59:42 <Chaang-Noi>	1 btc a month is more than enough
Mar 26 23:59:48 <tiberiusiv>	well your asian you guys would eat new born babies
Mar 27 00:00:05 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, im irish american
Mar 27 00:00:12 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: what brings you here anyway. surely it's not to just point out the mpex scam
Mar 27 00:00:28 <dub>	this guy
Mar 27 00:00:28 <tiberiusiv>	well i thought mpex and assets were legit
Mar 27 00:00:31 <tiberiusiv>	thats why i was in here
Mar 27 00:00:34 <Chaang-Noi>	irish american = asian, hahahaha
Mar 27 00:00:35 <tiberiusiv>	until i dug a little deeper lol
Mar 27 00:00:44 <Chaang-Noi>	so you are here to save us?>
Mar 27 00:00:54 <tiberiusiv>	why?
Mar 27 00:00:59 <dub>	everyone knows you don't eat newborns, you sell them to biotech shops
Mar 27 00:00:59 <tiberiusiv>	you a mp minion
Mar 27 00:01:11 <dub>	stemcells for fatass 'muricans
Mar 27 00:01:22 <Chaang-Noi>	man, sometimes in china they do eat humans or parts, no joke
Mar 27 00:01:28 <jcpham>	tiberiusiv have you heard about the rota?
Mar 27 00:01:34 <Chaang-Noi>	humans and cats i have never had knowingly... uggg
Mar 27 00:01:34 <jcpham>	Mp hates me
Mar 27 00:01:42 <tiberiusiv>	chaang-noi so you the fat whiteguy that comes to thailand for the 8 year olds
Mar 27 00:01:48 <jcpham>	I pissed him off. I am not a minion.
Mar 27 00:01:49 <tiberiusiv>	jcpham whats that?
Mar 27 00:01:50 <dub>	you can trade up a dead baby for a whole lot of dog
Mar 27 00:01:54 <jcpham>	Exactly
Mar 27 00:02:08 <Chaang-Noi>	lol you forgot the 1 in front of that 8
Mar 27 00:02:23 <Chaang-Noi>	and no i was not fat when i came here 8 years ago
Mar 27 00:02:32 <jcpham>	the mpex has a college of judges
Mar 27 00:02:32 <breadLover>	you forgot the quotes around "18" too
Mar 27 00:02:38 <jcpham>	Called the rota
Mar 27 00:02:45 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: does you new avitar indicate you just got married?
Mar 27 00:03:00 <jcpham>	Should things go horribly wrong and you'd like to bring a claim against mp
Mar 27 00:03:03 <dub>	you think romainia is bad, jcpham is a 3btc judge
Mar 27 00:03:04 <tiberiusiv>	was she a man just a week ago?
Mar 27 00:03:05 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah im married and she is over 18!    shock i know:)
Mar 27 00:03:10 <jcpham>	You follow procedure
Mar 27 00:03:18 <jcpham>	And bring it to rota
Mar 27 00:03:20 <tiberiusiv>	LOL dub
Mar 27 00:03:21 <jcpham>	And pray
Mar 27 00:03:27 <dub>	tiberiusiv: im srs
Mar 27 00:03:30 <jcpham>	And bribe me
Mar 27 00:03:32 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: gratz :)
Mar 27 00:03:32 <Chaang-Noi>	tberv she has been a girl for atleast 4 years :)
Mar 27 00:03:37 <jcpham>	Then you might win
Mar 27 00:03:38 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks smickles :)
Mar 27 00:03:41 <dub>	jcpham is a bitcoin judge that gets paid 3btc per case
Mar 27 00:03:46 <dub>	I shit you not
Mar 27 00:03:50 <jcpham>	True story
Mar 27 00:03:57 <jcpham>	Should i be selected
Mar 27 00:03:59 <toffoo>	anyone want to gimme a vicurex referral link?  imma signup
Mar 27 00:04:04 <jcpham>	There are 5 of us
Mar 27 00:04:04 <dub>	if you pay MP you can read about it on his blog
Mar 27 00:04:16 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 27 00:04:23 <Chaang-Noi>	pay to read his blog? hahahahah
Mar 27 00:04:28 <jcpham>	We've already upset him tiberiusiv
Mar 27 00:04:36 <smickles>	well, you do get 5 pages a week free
Mar 27 00:04:40 <jcpham>	Find the links and read up on it
Mar 27 00:04:43 <dub>	bloggin' is the real mpex revenue stream
Mar 27 00:04:51 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 27 00:05:02 <jcpham>	We refunded a guy his money and mp was not amused
Mar 27 00:05:08 <jcpham>	Not amused.
Mar 27 00:05:18 <smickles>	well, dub according to the polimedia financial statements, it's consulting
Mar 27 00:05:34 <smickles>	;;lucky poliboobs.jpg
Mar 27 00:05:34 <gribble>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Politics
Mar 27 00:05:37 <smickles>	wow
Mar 27 00:05:39 <Chaang-Noi>	shocked mp would not just give it back :/ one of the reasons why i dont use his site,
Mar 27 00:06:14 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-205_162-578965.html
Mar 27 00:06:41 <breadLover>	Romania is a shithole
Mar 27 00:06:56 <Chaang-Noi>	and where are you from tiberizuv? i bet you are nigerian and just jelly
Mar 27 00:06:57 <breadLover>	however i heard there is some good cheap hackerspace
Mar 27 00:07:00 <tiberiusiv>	no shit breadlover
Mar 27 00:07:09 <tiberiusiv>	hahaha chaang
Mar 27 00:07:16 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberizuvx the jelly nigerian
Mar 27 00:08:33 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/380512/How-Romanian-criminals-terrorise-our-streets
Mar 27 00:08:51 <Chaang-Noi>	you want me to find som3 stuff about nigeria for you?
Mar 27 00:08:56 <Chaang-Noi>	we know you just jelly
Mar 27 00:08:56 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 27 00:09:21 <dub>	tiberiusiv: dude, on the real .ro was the capital of shit eating script kiddies and internet scams long before those ground breaking articles
Mar 27 00:09:33 <tiberiusiv>	yea i know
Mar 27 00:09:34 <dub>	you are not teachign us shit
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Mar 27 00:10:00 <tiberiusiv>	hence why nobody legit wants to go near mpex.
Mar 27 00:10:02 <Chaang-Noi>	here you go http://bit.ly/14uitcd
Mar 27 00:10:12 <tiberiusiv>	hell never have any listings that dont involve him as a majority shareholders
Mar 27 00:10:15 <tiberiusiv>	shareholder*
Mar 27 00:10:44 <dub>	I would not be suprised if this was true, next nugget of wisdom plox
Mar 27 00:10:54 <dub>	lets get it all out
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Mar 27 00:11:29 <Chaang-Noi>	he must be reading about himself here http://bit.ly/14uitcd
Mar 27 00:12:03 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: i'm always afraid any of your links are goatse
Mar 27 00:13:38 <Chaang-Noi>	they never are :/
Mar 27 00:13:48 <Chaang-Noi>	it is safe for work
Mar 27 00:14:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i troll with a bit of class
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Mar 27 00:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4748 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 00:22:10 <dub>	tiberiusiv: PROTIP nobody legit wants to do anything with bitcoin securities at all
Mar 27 00:22:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.699995 BTC [-]
Mar 27 00:28:16 <tiberiusiv>	true dub
Mar 27 00:29:56 <tiberiusiv>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140654.0
Mar 27 00:30:00 <tiberiusiv>	lol what did this loser do?
Mar 27 00:30:07 <tiberiusiv>	massively bet against btc
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Mar 27 00:36:34 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: bet that pirate was legit
Mar 27 00:36:43 <dub>	that losers failures are almost too many to list
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Mar 27 00:38:22 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: I've just recently become curious about this. what is you general atitude or opinion about bitcoin itself, discounting bitcoin 'assets'.?
Mar 27 00:38:44 *	smickles does punctuation and spelling awesome
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Mar 27 00:42:25 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 00:42:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.47773, Best ask: 80.71559, Bid-ask spread: 0.23786, Last trade: 80.47773, 24 hour volume: 65994.81083632, 24 hour low: 74.05000, 24 hour high: 81.78325, 24 hour vwap: 78.31264
Mar 27 00:42:42 <smickles>	well, if you answer, please hilight me so i can find it easier :)
Mar 27 00:43:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6601 BTC [-]
Mar 27 00:45:13 <Chaang-Noi>	.66
Mar 27 00:45:30 <Chaang-Noi>	]that sucks but really i think it is way undervalued
Mar 27 00:45:36 <Chaang-Noi>	only people with real asics
Mar 27 00:49:24 <Chaang-Noi>	small sell off
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Mar 27 00:56:54 <bgupta>	Quick question for those trading directly in asicminer shares.. how do share transfers work? I know that shares are tied to wallet addresses, but how does that translate into authenticated transfer requests to friedcat?
Mar 27 00:57:52 <bgupta>	(A link would be great)
Mar 27 00:57:59 <ThickAsThieves>	1000+ shares traded on BF past 24hrs :o
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Mar 27 01:00:23 <Chaang-Noi>	bgupta friedcat keeps a list
Mar 27 01:00:41 <Chaang-Noi>	you need to message him about the trade, iv traded over 5000 shares this way, it works well
Mar 27 01:03:14 <bgupta>	Chang-Noi: Wow lots of trades!! So if I understand, then share ownership must be tied to forum handle as well as wallet address? IE: I'm trying to figure out how he knows that a request is real?
Mar 27 01:05:12 <Chaang-Noi>	all you need is a btc address and a way to contact him (forum name or email address)
Mar 27 01:05:31 <bgupta>	got it..
Mar 27 01:05:49 <bgupta>	(I think)..
Mar 27 01:06:01 <Chaang-Noi>	both parties will need to agree to the trade, it will be hard to "steal" shares cuz friedcat holds them all and will just give them back if there is a hacked account
Mar 27 01:06:29 <Chaang-Noi>	friedcat seems to be highly orgnized and have decent customer sergvice skills, something that i ahve not really seen in btc land before
Mar 27 01:06:38 <bgupta>	right that makes sense. didn't think of that fact.
Mar 27 01:06:41 <Chaang-Noi>	now if he will just get the last 50 th online :)
Mar 27 01:07:07 <Chaang-Noi>	hacked pt acctounts you are out of luck odds are
Mar 27 01:07:32 <bgupta>	yeah well pt should have 2-factor enabled in any case.
Mar 27 01:09:17 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: i think its a great concept
Mar 27 01:12:33 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: i think the biggest weakpoint of BTC is competing cryptos
Mar 27 01:15:50 <dub>	the AM thing is a bit of a mess
Mar 27 01:15:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.000711 = 0.0043 BTC [-]
Mar 27 01:16:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 211 @ 0.000712 = 0.1502 BTC [+]
Mar 27 01:16:06 <dub>	especially with people like INAU publising addresses on the forum
Mar 27 01:16:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 49 @ 0.000713 = 0.0349 BTC [+]
Mar 27 01:16:22 <tiberiusiv>	dub?
Mar 27 01:16:30 <tiberiusiv>	AM?
Mar 27 01:16:36 <dub>	asicminer
Mar 27 01:16:37 <Chaang-Noi>	hemight be slepin
Mar 27 01:17:07 <tiberiusiv>	isnt asicminer avalons way of raising funds to finish batch 2
Mar 27 01:17:38 <dub>	i think theres a real risk you could SE firedcat into transfering someones shares and cash them out via a PT before anyone picked up on it
Mar 27 01:18:02 <dub>	tiberiusiv: no they are another asic shop that sold shares a lon gtime ago to fund development
Mar 27 01:18:35 <dub>	lol *friedcat
Mar 27 01:18:39 <tiberiusiv>	hows the BFL scam progressing?
Mar 27 01:19:18 <dub>	pretty well, though I'm getting more convinced its less scam and more incompetence
Mar 27 01:20:38 <tiberiusiv>	no it turned into a scam
Mar 27 01:20:38 <dub>	someone with a fair bit of cred has visited their office to verify the operation, take pictures etc
Mar 27 01:20:49 <tiberiusiv>	link
Mar 27 01:21:05 <bgupta>	they have lot's of ads all over the nets (Google Ads if I recall)… guessing they wouldn't be inviting so much publicity if it were a pure scam. That said, it's kinda a scam, in that by the time they ship in volume people probably won't be able to make their money back.
Mar 27 01:21:19 <tiberiusiv>	the thing is even if BFL refunds you
Mar 27 01:21:25 <tiberiusiv>	you will recieve 90% less BTC
Mar 27 01:22:37 <dub>	http://www.kano-kun.net/
Mar 27 01:23:18 <dub>	like he says a lot of teh scammy look and feel of everything they do can be put down to idiocy
Mar 27 01:24:22 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.kano-kun.net/?p=6
Mar 27 01:24:40 <tiberiusiv>	i dont see any ASICs
Mar 27 01:24:51 <tiberiusiv>	a commercial rental which costs nothing to obtain in the US
Mar 27 01:24:59 <Chaang-Noi>	i always thought bfl was incompitance and not a scam
Mar 27 01:25:14 <dub>	theres so more pictures of stuff here http://www.bitcointrading.com/forum/asic-mining/bfl-asic-shipping-update-expect-further-delays/
Mar 27 01:25:21 <tiberiusiv>	BFL will be out of operating funds
Mar 27 01:25:27 <tiberiusiv>	before they can deliver
Mar 27 01:25:35 <dub>	they certainly played the game
Mar 27 01:25:50 <dub>	announcing complete bullshit timelines to stave off competitors
Mar 27 01:26:16 <tiberiusiv>	http://198.245.60.111/Pix/EndOfWorkRoom1andTheDoublePowerSupply.jpg
Mar 27 01:26:19 <tiberiusiv>	empty cases
Mar 27 01:26:26 <dub>	derp
Mar 27 01:26:32 <dub>	we know they aren't shipping yet
Mar 27 01:26:38 <dub>	dont be a micon
Mar 27 01:26:57 <tiberiusiv>	so what did they do over the last 9months
Mar 27 01:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.555 = 1.665 BTC [+]
Mar 27 01:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.553 = 4.424 BTC [-]
Mar 27 01:27:11 <tiberiusiv>	other then obtain a facility which by the looks of things they just got last month
Mar 27 01:27:14 <dub>	they shipped some decent PGA stuff
Mar 27 01:27:20 <Chaang-Noi>	dont be a micron oh lol
Mar 27 01:27:48 <tiberiusiv>	id be afraid of getting into a plane with josh
Mar 27 01:27:52 <tiberiusiv>	incase you accidently fall out
Mar 27 01:28:12 <tiberiusiv>	and never make it back to tell what youve seen
Mar 27 01:28:21 <dub>	that guy is a bag of dicks no doubt
Mar 27 01:28:33 <Namworld>	tiberiusiv: those Box-o-Fans won't assemble themselves. All amateur artists want one of the Box-o-Fans.
Mar 27 01:28:53 <Chaang-Noi>	i like josh, but lol at what he turned into with bfl, i knew him befiore the bfl crazyness
Mar 27 01:28:55 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 27 01:29:01 <Chaang-Noi>	outside bfl trolling he is a nice guy
Mar 27 01:29:08 <dub>	he drank the crazy koolaid
Mar 27 01:29:12 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 27 01:29:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.699995 BTC [+]
Mar 27 01:29:23 <Chaang-Noi>	he should have never responded to trolls on the fporum
Mar 27 01:29:24 <tiberiusiv>	so they leased some equipment
Mar 27 01:29:30 <tiberiusiv>	http://198.245.60.111/Pix/InhouseProduction1.jpg
Mar 27 01:30:55 <tiberiusiv>	BFL will be out of funds
Mar 27 01:31:04 <tiberiusiv>	if they arent already
Mar 27 01:31:45 <dub>	no, because all they would have to do is say so and their customers would give them more
Mar 27 01:31:55 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Mar 27 01:31:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 81.65102, Best ask: 81.99997, Bid-ask spread: 0.34895, Last trade: 81.65101, 24 hour volume: 67007.24281710, 24 hour low: 74.22220, 24 hour high: 82.00000, 24 hour vwap: 78.47302
Mar 27 01:32:09 <tiberiusiv>	no that would spark a refund run
Mar 27 01:32:26 <tiberiusiv>	they have no working product?
Mar 27 01:32:33 <tiberiusiv>	like has there been ANY prototypes
Mar 27 01:32:48 <tiberiusiv>	that anyone has seen
Mar 27 01:32:48 <dub>	of asic? no
Mar 27 01:32:59 <tiberiusiv>	so that guys visit was utterly useless
Mar 27 01:33:13 <dub>	there is a pic of some ghetto rigged a testing place but it could have been anything
Mar 27 01:33:20 <tiberiusiv>	anyone can obtain commercial space in the US for dirt cheap in under 2 hours in those regions
Mar 27 01:33:33 <tiberiusiv>	you can put that type of business together in a week
Mar 27 01:33:33 <Namworld>	Useless? He got to see one of the famous Box-o-Fans...
Mar 27 01:33:34 <tiberiusiv>	in america
Mar 27 01:33:55 <dub>	tiberiusiv: did you miss that they shipped a fuckload of FPGA kit in those same fan boxes?
Mar 27 01:34:18 <Chaang-Noi>	82 now
Mar 27 01:34:52 <tiberiusiv>	okay
Mar 27 01:35:00 <tiberiusiv>	so theyve delivered something in the past
Mar 27 01:35:22 <tiberiusiv>	dub: why would proven liars admit to being out of funds?
Mar 27 01:36:04 <dub>	idk, I think they could raise more
Mar 27 01:36:18 <tiberiusiv>	without a prototype? bs.
Mar 27 01:36:21 <tiberiusiv>	theyd have a refund run
Mar 27 01:36:24 <dub>	this is bitcoin, we've got crazy for days
Mar 27 01:36:31 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 82
Mar 27 01:36:34 <gribble>	There are currently 420.68283 bitcoins offered at or under 82.0 USD, worth 34495.9904566 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Mar 27 01:36:46 <tiberiusiv>	in romania both of them would have been cut up into bits and pieces
Mar 27 01:36:50 <tiberiusiv>	josh and luke
Mar 27 01:36:57 <tiberiusiv>	and mailed back to their families
Mar 27 01:37:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i want to go to romania
Mar 27 01:37:19 <Chaang-Noi>	i hope it really is a fucked up as peo-le claim
Mar 27 01:37:22 <dub>	I hear the cheese is good
Mar 27 01:37:28 <tiberiusiv>	chaang its not
Mar 27 01:37:32 <tiberiusiv>	its worse
Mar 27 01:37:37 <Chaang-Noi>	awesome :)
Mar 27 01:37:38 <tiberiusiv>	but mp's area is the wealthiest
Mar 27 01:37:47 <Chaang-Noi>	how long have you lived there tivslav?
Mar 27 01:37:56 <tiberiusiv>	ive never lived in that shithole
Mar 27 01:38:07 <Chaang-Noi>	you ever visted tiberslav?
Mar 27 01:38:07 <tiberiusiv>	a friend of mine was from that area
Mar 27 01:38:08 <tiberiusiv>	timisoara
Mar 27 01:38:15 <Chaang-Noi>	you never even been, oh lol
Mar 27 01:38:16 <tiberiusiv>	ive been on the black sea
Mar 27 01:38:23 <tiberiusiv>	i passed through the dump
Mar 27 01:38:28 <Chaang-Noi>	you have been on a sea... wow
Mar 27 01:38:32 <Chaang-Noi>	i was on a sea once too
Mar 27 01:38:38 <tiberiusiv>	you have to be careful not to leave your car unattended
Mar 27 01:38:47 <tiberiusiv>	theyll puncture the tire and wait for you to be stranded on the highway
Mar 27 01:38:53 <tiberiusiv>	and show up to "help"
Mar 27 01:38:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i wont bring a car there... going to bring an airplane
Mar 27 01:39:12 <Chaang-Noi>	okay avoid highways, got ya
Mar 27 01:39:19 <tiberiusiv>	they dont have highways lol
Mar 27 01:39:26 <tiberiusiv>	sorry i meant rural road
Mar 27 01:39:40 <tiberiusiv>	highways dont exist in romania
Mar 27 01:39:52 <Chaang-Noi>	<tiberiusiv> theyll puncture the tire and wait for you to be stranded on the highway
Mar 27 01:40:03 <Chaang-Noi>	jesus you even correct yourself, you ahve issues man
Mar 27 01:40:04 <tiberiusiv>	yes wrong choice of words
Mar 27 01:40:25 <tiberiusiv>	http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/only-in-romania-7.jpg?w=500&h=377
Mar 27 01:40:32 <tiberiusiv>	that about describes romania
Mar 27 01:41:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 200 @ 0.00441 = 0.882 BTC [-]
Mar 27 01:41:23 <tiberiusiv>	luke and bfl josh would have been tortured there
Mar 27 01:41:31 <tiberiusiv>	if they pulled that shit off that they can in the US
Mar 27 01:41:33 <Uglux>	;;ticker
Mar 27 01:41:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.10000, Best ask: 82.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 82.20000, 24 hour volume: 66644.39954826, 24 hour low: 74.22220, 24 hour high: 82.00000, 24 hour vwap: 78.51204
Mar 27 01:41:46 <Chaang-Noi>	nice Uglux :)
Mar 27 01:41:52 <tiberiusiv>	probably have their organs harvested
Mar 27 01:42:09 <Chaang-Noi>	nice to see the have the medical skills to harvist orginz
Mar 27 01:42:16 <Chaang-Noi>	makes me feel good about getting sick there
Mar 27 01:42:32 <tiberiusiv>	oh the hospitals are bad
Mar 27 01:42:41 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 82.5
Mar 27 01:42:44 <gribble>	There are currently 231.26099 bitcoins offered at or under 82.5 USD, worth 19062.2441285 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Mar 27 01:42:46 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 83
Mar 27 01:42:46 <gribble>	There are currently 987.23813 bitcoins offered at or under 83.0 USD, worth 81589.474898 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1.9766 seconds
Mar 27 01:42:50 <tiberiusiv>	you need your own toilet paper and a pocket full of cash to make sure nurses/doctors even see you
Mar 27 01:43:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i haz cash lol
Mar 27 01:43:14 <tiberiusiv>	if you need surgery and dont properly tip the doctor youll wake up with both legs missing
Mar 27 01:43:46 <tiberiusiv>	its amazing too because the dump is packed with high end luxury cars
Mar 27 01:43:57 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 27 01:44:13 <tiberiusiv>	the gypsys run professional begging teams throughout EU with kids and grandmas
Mar 27 01:44:20 <tiberiusiv>	and build mansions in romania with the proceeds
Mar 27 01:45:06 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.rosemarysheel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/romania_gypsy_houses_mansions-copy.jpg
Mar 27 01:45:10 <tiberiusiv>	tacky as fuck
Mar 27 01:45:14 <ThickAsThieves>	82.5
Mar 27 01:45:20 <Chaang-Noi>	yup
Mar 27 01:45:26 <Chaang-Noi>	that wall is getten eaten
Mar 27 01:45:40 <ThickAsThieves>	but i wanna go to bed!
Mar 27 01:45:43 <tiberiusiv>	http://2012-08-yourmunky.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/romanian-gypsy-kings-2.jpg
Mar 27 01:45:44 <tiberiusiv>	LOL
Mar 27 01:45:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.699995 BTC [+]
Mar 27 01:45:53 <tiberiusiv>	looks like mircea's children
Mar 27 01:46:55 <tiberiusiv>	chaang-noi: romania is filled with stray dogs too
Mar 27 01:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.85 = 3.7 BTC [+]
Mar 27 01:47:15 <tiberiusiv>	they form packs
Mar 27 01:48:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062582 = 6.133 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 01:49:11 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Np0gYi6AY
Mar 27 01:49:48 <Chaang-Noi>	if it is not 505 like this when i go im going to hunt you down and rape all your female goats
Mar 27 01:50:05 <tiberiusiv>	505?
Mar 27 01:50:27 <Chaang-Noi>	50%
Mar 27 01:50:29 <Chaang-Noi>	82.6
Mar 27 01:50:36 <tiberiusiv>	its 90% like that
Mar 27 01:51:40 <tiberiusiv>	romanian universities offer PHDs in vehicle odometer rollback and pickpocketing using your feet
Mar 27 01:52:29 <tiberiusiv>	lol did you listen to how they met
Mar 27 01:52:32 <tiberiusiv>	he decided to rape her
Mar 27 01:54:32 <tiberiusiv>	looks like were going to 100
Mar 27 01:54:38 <tiberiusiv>	theres barely any coins offered
Mar 27 01:57:23 <Uglux>	;;asks 800
Mar 27 01:57:26 <gribble>	There are currently 40303.906 bitcoins offered at or under 800.0 USD, worth 6205812.38578 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0027 seconds
Mar 27 01:58:32 <Chaang-Noi>	800 here we come
Mar 27 01:58:41 <Uglux>	there are people buying cars for 6205812.38578 USD
Mar 27 01:59:04 <Chaang-Noi>	we will get to 800 soon enough, 6 months tops
Mar 27 01:59:21 <Chaang-Noi>	there will be a correction somewhere between 125 and 250 for a while
Mar 27 01:59:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Mar 27 01:59:34 <gribble>	There are currently 36654594 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9471979.93425 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0176 seconds
Mar 27 01:59:41 <ThickAsThieves>	83
Mar 27 01:59:58 <Chaang-Noi>	83.4
Mar 27 02:00:07 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 85
Mar 27 02:00:08 <gribble>	There are currently 2890.2543 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 243993.958065 USD in total. | Data vintage: 34.3004 seconds
Mar 27 02:00:13 <ThickAsThieves>	just noticed daaaamn
Mar 27 02:00:15 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 90
Mar 27 02:00:15 <gribble>	There are currently 5453.4655 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 469989.212585 USD in total. | Data vintage: 41.5126 seconds
Mar 27 02:00:26 <Chaang-Noi>	well damn
Mar 27 02:00:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 576 @ 0.10590799 = 61.003 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:01:37 <Uglux>	lol @ Bitstamp high: 100.00 low: 75.59 avg: 79.82
Mar 27 02:02:09 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 27 02:02:18 <Chaang-Noi>	.3 traded at 100
Mar 27 02:02:20 <Namworld>	lololol
Mar 27 02:02:41 <Chaang-Noi>	extreamly bullish
Mar 27 02:03:34 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Mar 27 02:03:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.00000, Best ask: 83.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 82.71000, 24 hour volume: 67420.00585510, 24 hour low: 75.00000, 24 hour high: 83.00001, 24 hour vwap: 78.64965
Mar 27 02:05:09 <Uglux>	the gox lag is a feature right?
Mar 27 02:05:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.0941415 = 0.1883 BTC [-]
Mar 27 02:05:31 <Chaang-Noi>	here comes 84
Mar 27 02:05:59 <Chaang-Noi>	83.95 but gox lag, lol
Mar 27 02:06:03 <Chaang-Noi>	84
Mar 27 02:06:09 <Chaang-Noi>	84.19 lol
Mar 27 02:06:48 <dub>	;;goxlag
Mar 27 02:06:50 <gribble>	94.838203 seconds
Mar 27 02:07:07 <Chaang-Noi>	a bit of a wall at 85 but not much
Mar 27 02:07:15 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 85
Mar 27 02:07:18 <gribble>	There are currently 2340.4145 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 198314.225273 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Mar 27 02:09:27 <tiberiusiv>	theres nothing up to 100
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Mar 27 02:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 27 02:10:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.74544, Best ask: 84.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45456, Last trade: 84.20000, 24 hour volume: 67420.00585510, 24 hour low: 75.00000, 24 hour high: 83.00001, 24 hour vwap: 78.64965
Mar 27 02:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	o wow.
Mar 27 02:11:10 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, nice to wake up to that
Mar 27 02:11:25 <Namworld>	Moving up... we better reach 100...
Mar 27 02:11:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09644283 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:11:31 <Chaang-Noi>	gox lag is 2 mins
Mar 27 02:11:33 <Chaang-Noi>	its active now
Mar 27 02:11:35 <tiberiusiv>	time to turn your bots on to inflate mpex volumes mircea
Mar 27 02:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	100 seems quite likely tbh
Mar 27 02:11:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.11551977 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:11:57 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah 100 is almost a sure thing now :/
Mar 27 02:12:01 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 100
Mar 27 02:12:01 <Namworld>	It has a nice sounding to it.
Mar 27 02:12:03 <gribble>	There are currently 20890.923 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1975762.01088 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
Mar 27 02:12:08 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 99.999
Mar 27 02:12:09 <gribble>	There are currently 19647.357 bitcoins offered at or under 99.999 USD, worth 1851405.41114 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.9117 seconds
Mar 27 02:12:10 <Namworld>	There's just something to it.
Mar 27 02:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	yeah it's gone
Mar 27 02:12:19 <Namworld>	Like a 100 USD bill
Mar 27 02:12:22 <Chaang-Noi>	2 million fiat, lol
Mar 27 02:12:24 <mircea_popescu>	20k btc = nothing.
Mar 27 02:12:36 <toffoo>	what happened to ASICMINER's other 6TH?  wasn't it supposed to be 12 TH in the first batch?
Mar 27 02:12:39 <Chaang-Noi>	order book on gox with bids showing is like 8 million fiat
Mar 27 02:12:54 <Chaang-Noi>	toffoo we dont know, but yes
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Mar 27 02:13:11 <Chaang-Noi>	they have had some issues but are not clear
Mar 27 02:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo the worst case scenario is that their chips keep blowing up
Mar 27 02:13:17 <Chaang-Noi>	what they are :?
Mar 27 02:13:20 <mircea_popescu>	and they're already using batch 2 chips.
Mar 27 02:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise, mystery.
Mar 27 02:13:40 <Chaang-Noi>	tehy dont have batch 2 chips yet, but they could ahve fucked 50% of batch one
Mar 27 02:13:40 <toffoo>	weird how they haven't addressed this pretty critical question
Mar 27 02:13:56 <Chaang-Noi>	they dont need more funding so why do they care?
Mar 27 02:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2409 @ 0.00448 = 10.7923 BTC [-]
Mar 27 02:14:07 <Chaang-Noi>	they dont care price of stock
Mar 27 02:14:17 <Chaang-Noi>	in it for the dividends
Mar 27 02:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo what can they say ?
Mar 27 02:14:20 <tiberiusiv>	what issues?
Mar 27 02:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	originally their gear was going to be sent to upstanding community members for review
Mar 27 02:14:39 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 02:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	it's never happened and quietly dropped.
Mar 27 02:14:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.90001, Best ask: 83.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 83.95000, 24 hour volume: 69002.42552111, 24 hour low: 75.07009, 24 hour high: 84.39000, 24 hour vwap: 78.78080
Mar 27 02:14:47 <mircea_popescu>	the only logical conclusion is there's something wrong with it.
Mar 27 02:15:01 <tiberiusiv>	kind of like mpex volumes
Mar 27 02:15:03 <toffoo>	well I hate to jump to uninformed conclusions
Mar 27 02:15:24 <toffoo>	I thought it might have been mentioned in that monster forum thread,
Mar 27 02:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	this is not jumping to conclusions. this is the correct assumption process in business.
Mar 27 02:15:34 <toffoo>	but I figured I'd ask here before wading thru it
Mar 27 02:15:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.0996075 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:15:46 <tiberiusiv>	sdice is finally feeling the deflationary effect of this last move
Mar 27 02:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	somebody owes but doesn't pay the assumption is they're insolvent.
Mar 27 02:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	that sort of stuff.
Mar 27 02:15:52 <tiberiusiv>	with transaction volume tanking
Mar 27 02:16:46 <tiberiusiv>	https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions
Mar 27 02:16:51 <tiberiusiv>	hoarding starting to take hold
Mar 27 02:17:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.699994 BTC [-]
Mar 27 02:17:22 <tiberiusiv>	decline in daily transactions for the past 3 weeks now
Mar 27 02:17:47 <tiberiusiv>	despite a massive influx of new users
Mar 27 02:17:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.699995 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:19:02 <Chaang-Noi>	toffee friedcat has said networking problems
Mar 27 02:19:14 <Chaang-Noi>	toffoo*
Mar 27 02:21:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062582 = 9.3873 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:21:56 <toffoo>	where did he say that?
Mar 27 02:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	in the thread.
Mar 27 02:22:20 <toffoo>	I thought the networking problems when there was like 3-4 TH online
Mar 27 02:22:28 <mircea_popescu>	that's it.
Mar 27 02:22:34 <toffoo>	I don't think I've ever seen more than about 6 TH hashing
Mar 27 02:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	sounds about right.
Mar 27 02:24:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.11289001 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 02:25:16 <ThickAsThieves>	6.5TH lately
Mar 27 02:25:32 <ThickAsThieves>	and i saw it spike at 6.75 once
Mar 27 02:25:36 <ThickAsThieves>	thats about it
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Mar 27 02:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09385556 BTC [-]
Mar 27 02:27:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Mar 27 02:27:29 <gribble>	51184.1173664
Mar 27 02:27:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 27 02:27:36 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 6742223.56791 based on data since last change | 7150229.48926 based on data for last three days
Mar 27 02:29:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 02:29:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.51000, Best ask: 83.95000, Bid-ask spread: 1.44000, Last trade: 83.95000, 24 hour volume: 69655.64712248, 24 hour low: 75.07101, 24 hour high: 84.39000, 24 hour vwap: 78.82830
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Mar 27 02:34:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.699995 = 7 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:36:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.2930763 = 293.0763 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:36:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.26346639 = 263.4664 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:36:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.2344069 = 234.4069 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:36:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.20614959 = 206.1496 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:36:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.17899591 = 178.9959 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.15327667 = 153.2767 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:36:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.11738822 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 999 @ 0.12932122 = 129.1919 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:37:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09803797 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:37:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 999 @ 0.10742235 = 107.3149 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 02:37:35 <Namworld>	time to buy calls
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Mar 27 02:39:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.11786429 BTC [-]
Mar 27 02:39:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09845581 BTC [-]
Mar 27 02:39:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:40:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:40:20 <Namworld>	lots of em
Mar 27 02:40:24 *	cads is now known as ShinjouKarunoto
Mar 27 02:40:39 <Namworld>	hmm, more calls to buy
Mar 27 02:41:05 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 78.72
Mar 27 02:41:09 <gribble>	There are currently 3087.7011 bitcoins demanded at or over 78.72 USD, worth 247621.614442 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0070 seconds
Mar 27 02:41:17 <Namworld>	;;asks 85
Mar 27 02:41:17 <gribble>	There are currently 2434.4015 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 205945.63073 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.3875 seconds
Mar 27 02:41:25 <Namworld>	;;asks 100
Mar 27 02:41:25 <gribble>	There are currently 21113.042 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1990189.832 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.7081 seconds
Mar 27 02:42:05 <Namworld>	Sounds good to me
Mar 27 02:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.29329496 = 293.295 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:42:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.26368397 = 263.684 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:42:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.23461956 = 234.6196 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.20635286 = 206.3529 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:42:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.17918507 = 179.1851 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:42:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.1534473 = 153.4473 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:42:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.12946978 = 129.4698 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:42:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09599945 BTC [-]
Mar 27 02:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 999 @ 0.10754662 = 107.4391 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:43:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.10754662 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:47:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09599945 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 02:51:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.29351269 = 293.5127 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:51:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.10766303 = 107.663 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:51:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.12961161 = 129.6116 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:51:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.15361245 = 153.6125 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:51:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.17936998 = 179.37 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.20655301 = 206.553 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:51:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.23483005 = 234.8301 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:51:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.26390011 = 263.9001 BTC [+]
Mar 27 02:53:29 <Namworld>	mircea_popescu... I think there's demand for more calls
Mar 27 02:53:44 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 27 02:54:04 <Chaang-Noi>	expecting moon shot well over 100 maybe
Mar 27 02:54:07 <mircea_popescu>	holy hell what happened here
Mar 27 02:54:20 <Chaang-Noi>	but these options end when?
Mar 27 02:54:28 <Namworld>	too soon
Mar 27 02:54:36 <Namworld>	but they have less of a premium too
Mar 27 02:54:43 <Namworld>	the closer to expiration date
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Mar 27 02:54:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i know but still
Mar 27 02:54:55 <Namworld>	They expire on the 29th
Mar 27 02:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	expire friday
Mar 27 02:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	then again traditionally options have been trading like crazy past few days of each month.
Mar 27 02:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	btc people just don't like the long term
Mar 27 02:55:37 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm, well if they expect 100 soon very soon then its a good deal
Mar 27 02:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	where long is anything over a week, in the sense tuesday to saturday is a week
Mar 27 02:56:04 <Namworld>	they're in the money if average moves like to 82-85 USD per BTC
Mar 27 02:56:10 <Namworld>	within 2 days
Mar 27 02:56:17 <Namworld>	then the more the better
Mar 27 02:56:29 <Chaang-Noi>	pretty safe bet
Mar 27 02:56:32 <Namworld>	if price doesn't move it's even/small loss
Mar 27 02:56:41 <Namworld>	if price go down it could hurt tho
Mar 27 02:56:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 63 / (1-.264)
Mar 27 02:56:43 <gribble>	85.597826087
Mar 27 02:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	the 63 ones need 85.6 like
Mar 27 02:57:01 <Chaang-Noi>	meh 5000 btc seems worth the risk here
Mar 27 02:57:15 <Namworld>	;;calc 75 / (1-.107)
Mar 27 02:57:15 <gribble>	83.9865621501
Mar 27 02:57:24 <Namworld>	75 needs 83.98
Mar 27 02:57:29 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 27 02:57:41 <mircea_popescu>	so about there, 84-85
Mar 27 02:57:48 <Namworld>	If price makes a sudden drop, executing them is always an option to cut losses.
Mar 27 02:57:58 <Namworld>	before average moves anyway
Mar 27 02:58:04 <Namworld>	Still... very risky
Mar 27 02:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	last week i was excited about goiing over 300k notional which was like 20mn
Mar 27 02:58:08 <Chaang-Noi>	i highly doubt we will see a drop
Mar 27 02:58:12 <Namworld>	options are usually in favor of the bot
Mar 27 02:58:14 <mircea_popescu>	now solidly over 400k, which is like 35mn
Mar 27 02:59:43 <Chaang-Noi>	bitcoinity wtf?
Mar 27 03:00:07 <Chaang-Noi>	the grandma of the cat in tyhe looney toons was tossing money into a fire?
Mar 27 03:00:11 *	ShinjouKarunoto is now known as cads
Mar 27 03:00:22 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone else see that?
Mar 27 03:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	the what ?
Mar 27 03:00:59 <Chaang-Noi>	a cartoon was showed on the page
Mar 27 03:01:00 <Namworld>	MPEx options bot ran out of funds it seems
Mar 27 03:01:03 <Chaang-Noi>	for like 5 seconds
Mar 27 03:01:15 <Namworld>	Well the asks/bids aren't for 1000 everywhere
Mar 27 03:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	Mtgox trading engine lag: 34.80s
Mar 27 03:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoinity is basically an engine of displaying how sucky mtgox is
Mar 27 03:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld prolly ran out of options.
Mar 27 03:02:06 <Chaang-Noi>	but there was a cartoon of a lady burning usd when we jumped about $2
Mar 27 03:02:14 <Chaang-Noi>	lasted about 5 seconds
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Mar 27 03:03:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00999 = 0.0999 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 03:03:36 <Namworld>	Well one last round of options to grab and it's gone
Mar 27 03:05:05 <tiberiusiv>	mircea: how many times are you going to openly brag about your notional claim in here?
Mar 27 03:05:16 <tiberiusiv>	back it up with some verifiable fact.
Mar 27 03:05:36 <tiberiusiv>	the 50mil market cap firm where 10k a day trades of stock.
Mar 27 03:05:46 <Chaang-Noi>	...
Mar 27 03:05:52 <Namworld>	10k in BTC
Mar 27 03:06:00 <tiberiusiv>	mpex shares $10kusd
Mar 27 03:06:12 <tiberiusiv>	163`795
Mar 27 03:06:18 <tiberiusiv>	x 0.0006
Mar 27 03:06:19 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslov is nigerian
Mar 27 03:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 987 @ 0.29418438 = 290.36 BTC [+]
Mar 27 03:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 995 @ 0.18001586 = 179.1158 BTC [+]
Mar 27 03:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 995 @ 0.15422494 = 153.4538 BTC [+]
Mar 27 03:06:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 955 @ 0.13017969 = 124.3216 BTC [+]
Mar 27 03:06:34 <tiberiusiv>	^ mircea
Mar 27 03:06:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 689 @ 0.10817751 = 74.5343 BTC [+]
Mar 27 03:06:39 <Namworld>	MPOE shares trade an average of 700k daily...
Mar 27 03:06:46 <tiberiusiv>	no they dont.
Mar 27 03:07:14 <Namworld>	Why?
Mar 27 03:07:15 <tiberiusiv>	they trade high when hes around
Mar 27 03:07:29 <Namworld>	Why do you even claim that?
Mar 27 03:07:35 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: becuase of the share distribution.
Mar 27 03:07:43 <tiberiusiv>	him owning 90%+
Mar 27 03:08:00 <Namworld>	What does that changes?
Mar 27 03:08:36 <tiberiusiv>	as i said go locate substantial mpex option traders or shareholders
Mar 27 03:08:37 <tiberiusiv>	you wont
Mar 27 03:09:07 <Namworld>	They're around or on the forum everywhere =/
Mar 27 03:09:16 <tiberiusiv>	yea where?
Mar 27 03:09:21 <tiberiusiv>	its people with 1btc
Mar 27 03:09:23 <tiberiusiv>	or 2
Mar 27 03:09:37 <Namworld>	It's people with thousands of BTCs >.>
Mar 27 03:09:38 <tiberiusiv>	nobody on the forums is option trading the volume he claims
Mar 27 03:09:44 <Namworld>	No one with 1-2 BTC is on MPEx
Mar 27 03:09:53 <tiberiusiv>	yes they are through brokers
Mar 27 03:10:00 <tiberiusiv>	the tousands of btcs are mp
Mar 27 03:10:05 <tiberiusiv>	trading between himself
Mar 27 03:10:29 <tiberiusiv>	he still has 900million shares of garbage to sell
Mar 27 03:10:41 <Namworld>	Brokers hardly represent a fraction of trades
Mar 27 03:10:58 <Namworld>	and SatoshiDice owner could certainly vouch funds he raised are actual...
Mar 27 03:10:59 <tiberiusiv>	find those magical users with tousands of btcs trading options on mpex lol
Mar 27 03:11:06 <Namworld>	there's large traders around
Mar 27 03:11:15 <tiberiusiv>	yea sdice has 90% sahres held by owner as well
Mar 27 03:11:24 <tiberiusiv>	namworld BS.
Mar 27 03:11:57 <tiberiusiv>	mp stat pads to motivate bidders.
Mar 27 03:12:23 <tiberiusiv>	theres never a large trader in here talking about options
Mar 27 03:13:45 <Namworld>	The large traders are hardly standing around all day in IRC. They don't even know about it.
Mar 27 03:13:59 <tiberiusiv>	hahaha yea right
Mar 27 03:14:33 <tiberiusiv>	anyone risking thousands of BTC in romanian hands would have been in here to verify who he was dealing with
Mar 27 03:14:50 <Namworld>	I have funds loaned to me. The big people are not on bitcointalk nor on IRC.
Mar 27 03:15:07 <tiberiusiv>	mhm
Mar 27 03:15:10 <Namworld>	I've never talked to them before receiving the BTC or anything.
Mar 27 03:15:24 <tiberiusiv>	loaned to you for what
Mar 27 03:15:54 <Namworld>	For any purpose I wish. Personal loan.
Mar 27 03:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	amusingly enough, large call buy put a top in the market.
Mar 27 03:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	im curious if that holds any.
Mar 27 03:17:17 <tiberiusiv>	mp cut the bullshit
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Mar 27 03:17:24 <tiberiusiv>	you were buying the large call
Mar 27 03:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	actually, i wonder how many people are doing the "sell 1k btc at mtgox, buy 1k worth of calls on MPEx" hedging thing.
Mar 27 03:17:34 <tiberiusiv>	nobody.
Mar 27 03:17:36 <Namworld>	I'm one of the trader on MPEx. A few of the 1000s calls were my transactions.
Mar 27 03:17:48 <Namworld>	Bugpowder was probably responsible for a few others
Mar 27 03:17:52 <tiberiusiv>	good for you
Mar 27 03:18:10 <Namworld>	Most are just not going to come in IRC...
Mar 27 03:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld is this the tiberius kid going on ?
Mar 27 03:19:06 <tiberiusiv>	lol the scumbag pretends to be ignoring
Mar 27 03:19:06 <Namworld>	Not sure why you'd expect that. The more funds people have, the less time they have to do things like have idle chatting in IRC.
Mar 27 03:19:23 <tiberiusiv>	mp is on here night and day.
Mar 27 03:19:23 <unlord>	how do I buy shares on MPEx
Mar 27 03:19:50 <Namworld>	Get an account. They cost 30 BTC tho =/
Mar 27 03:20:07 <Namworld>	or go through a broker
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Mar 27 03:21:14 <unlord>	Namworld: is there a no load way to purchase?
Mar 27 03:21:27 <Namworld>	define "no load"?
Mar 27 03:21:50 <unlord>	Namworld: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/no-loadfund.asp
Mar 27 03:22:14 <Namworld>	No, not that I know of.
Mar 27 03:22:31 <unlord>	Namworld: 30 is too high a price to pay
Mar 27 03:23:13 <Namworld>	tiberius, I'm not sure why being Romanian is such an issue, other than the added risk legal recourse is not really an option.
Mar 27 03:24:38 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: its not a coincidence hes from the largest internet fraud center in the world?
Mar 27 03:25:04 <tiberiusiv>	right nothing to see here.
Mar 27 03:25:19 <Namworld>	With that logic, no romanian cannot be a scammer...
Mar 27 03:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	unlord you missed that by abouyt a year
Mar 27 03:25:41 <mircea_popescu>	there were two such distributyions in march and april 2012.
Mar 27 03:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	shares sold for 9k satoshi (1mn) and 2.x k satoshi (4mn)
Mar 27 03:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	also, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136436909249.png
Mar 27 03:26:37 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav is nigerian, he is juyst jelly of mps scamming skillz
Mar 27 03:27:02 <Namworld>	Well I must say he could stop posting NSFW links in an assets channel tho...
Mar 27 03:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld have you clicked it ?
Mar 27 03:27:23 <Namworld>	nope
Mar 27 03:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	the ONE TIME i actually post an on topic png
Mar 27 03:27:37 <unlord>	mircea_popescu: what did I miss?
Mar 27 03:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	unlord the no load thing.
Mar 27 03:27:52 <Chaang-Noi>	this really should be a sfw chan, if photo is not sfn just tell people
Mar 27 03:28:04 <unlord>	mircea_popescu: well I wasn't really into BTC back then
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Mar 27 03:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, you can prolly talk to a broker pay whatever they charge as a % fee
Mar 27 03:28:12 <Namworld>	yeah I'm not sure it's due to options
Mar 27 03:28:17 <Namworld>	But anyway
Mar 27 03:28:25 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld the coincidence is there. what's it due to we'll never know.
Mar 27 03:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	and peeps, stop hating on pron. the solution is to get the girls naked at your office, not to remove pron form the workspace.
Mar 27 03:29:15 <Namworld>	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
Mar 27 03:29:37 <Namworld>	looking at last few days on hourly setting, I'd say it looks like normal variation
Mar 27 03:30:18 <unlord>	mircea_popescu: do shares have their own block-chain structure?
Mar 27 03:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	unlord nope.
Mar 27 03:30:58 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld the buying started around the peak (84.x)
Mar 27 03:30:59 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc back over .007 wow
Mar 27 03:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	it's not been over 84 since.
Mar 27 03:31:17 <unlord>	mircea_popescu: how do you demonstrate ownership?
Mar 27 03:31:57 <Uglux>	hmm price follows version number of bitcoin-qt ^^
Mar 27 03:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	on mpex ? you get gpg signed receipts for trades / acct statements
Mar 27 03:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	do read the faq, it's informative.
Mar 27 03:32:09 <unlord>	mircea_popescu: thanks
Mar 27 03:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	Uglux haha that's a point.
Mar 27 03:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	0.81 usd / btc here we go
Mar 27 03:39:38 <Chaang-Noi>	oh gox lag
Mar 27 03:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	and looks like it's back up.
Mar 27 03:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	net effect of like 25k notional ? 25 minutes worth of calm.
Mar 27 03:41:18 <mircea_popescu>	scary shit.
Mar 27 03:41:24 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 85
Mar 27 03:41:26 <gribble>	There are currently 1362.753 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 115519.937878 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 27 03:41:45 <Chaang-Noi>	ath
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Mar 27 03:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	yup
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Mar 27 03:42:19 <Chaang-Noi>	once btc gets to $300 or so im going to antartic
Mar 27 03:42:28 <Chaang-Noi>	a
Mar 27 03:42:37 <Chaang-Noi>	going to see some pengiunz!
Mar 27 03:42:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 27 03:43:35 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, $300 is when my vacation fund gets = to anartica trip
Mar 27 03:44:04 <Chaang-Noi>	think satalite internetz will work down there?
Mar 27 03:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Mar 27 03:44:36 <toffoo>	Chaang-Noi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_New_Zealand_Flight_901
Mar 27 03:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	well... i got meetings and shit. please don't break anything.
Mar 27 03:44:53 <Chaang-Noi>	lol meetings:)
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Mar 27 03:45:23 <Chaang-Noi>	toffoo lol 30 eyar old sigh seeuing trip
Mar 27 03:45:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i want to land and play in the fucking snow
Mar 27 03:45:33 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Mar 27 03:45:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.96000, Best ask: 84.03865, Bid-ask spread: 0.07865, Last trade: 84.03865, 24 hour volume: 72686.59783658, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 84.50000, 24 hour vwap: 79.09585
Mar 27 03:46:52 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 85
Mar 27 03:46:55 <gribble>	There are currently 1390.7625 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 117911.596115 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 27 03:46:56 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89.9
Mar 27 03:46:56 <gribble>	There are currently 4093.0673 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 355267.961904 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1.4320 seconds
Mar 27 03:47:03 <Uglux>	hm will there be an AM div today?
Mar 27 03:47:13 <Chaang-Noi>	there should be yes
Mar 27 03:47:16 <Chaang-Noi>	he said two this week
Mar 27 03:47:20 <Chaang-Noi>	we have 1 already
Mar 27 03:47:21 <bgupta>	Uglux yeah
Mar 27 03:47:36 <bgupta>	smallish one though
Mar 27 03:48:19 <bgupta>	since it's a) not a full week, and b) the first div to factor in all 400k shares.
Mar 27 03:48:55 <Chaang-Noi>	small for asicminer standards, a massive fucking div for wallstreet standards
Mar 27 03:48:56 <unlord>	what is AM?
Mar 27 03:49:00 <Chaang-Noi>	asicminer
Mar 27 03:49:04 <unlord>	ahh right
Mar 27 03:49:22 <bgupta>	Chaang-Noi: Sure...
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Mar 27 03:49:53 <unlord>	Chaang-Noi: they are not listed on mpex
Mar 27 03:50:01 <Chaang-Noi>	no one on wall street will give out .25% of thier company weekly
Mar 27 03:50:05 <Uglux>	I would rather like to see an update about that mysterious delayed +6TH, not hashing silently somewhere for someone else ^^
Mar 27 03:50:08 <Chaang-Noi>	they are not listed
Mar 27 03:50:17 <Chaang-Noi>	however PTs on btct.co and bitfunder.com
Mar 27 03:50:27 <Chaang-Noi>	id like to see an update too
Mar 27 03:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	Uglux it's unlikely to be hashing anywhere, cause of total networkoutput
Mar 27 03:50:29 <unlord>	Chaang-Noi: how does one invest in them?
Mar 27 03:50:37 <bgupta>	however bear in mind.. most "wall street divs" are paid by stodgy companies, that have stable predictable earnings, so there is a premium paid for that so that the yield ends up being really low.
Mar 27 03:50:47 <Chaang-Noi>	but the pt at the linked sites or buy OTC on the tthreads i nthe forum at bitcointalk.org
Mar 27 03:51:08 <Chaang-Noi>	bgupta i hold one stock :)
Mar 27 03:51:17 <Chaang-Noi>	i hold gold and siklver for stability
Mar 27 03:51:25 <bgupta>	:)
Mar 27 03:51:31 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck wallstreet
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Mar 27 03:52:00 <unlord>	Chaang-Noi: I hold producing assets
Mar 27 03:52:08 <unlord>	fuck inert metals
Mar 27 03:52:20 *	bgupta so wishes I could move some of my 401k/IRA funds into btc economy..
Mar 27 03:52:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i hold BTC/LTC/AM and then for my 10% shit hits the fan (gold and silver)
Mar 27 03:52:59 <unlord>	I like KO
Mar 27 03:53:00 <Chaang-Noi>	im not trying to make money off of gold and silver, im using it as a protection from inflation or other crazyness like ww3
Mar 27 03:53:09 <Chaang-Noi>	no idea what KO is
Mar 27 03:53:16 <tiberiusiv>	coca cola
Mar 27 03:53:18 <Chaang-Noi>	if you dont hold it you dont own it
Mar 27 03:53:38 <tiberiusiv>	unlord: too bad your producing assets have their income double taxed.
Mar 27 03:53:49 <unlord>	tiberiusiv: they do?
Mar 27 03:53:54 <tiberiusiv>	yes.
Mar 27 03:54:03 <tiberiusiv>	corporate income tax + the dividend tax you pay
Mar 27 03:54:05 <unlord>	I guess you know my finances then
Mar 27 03:54:05 <tiberiusiv>	+ inflation
Mar 27 03:54:07 <Namworld>	corp gets taxed then you
Mar 27 03:54:12 <tiberiusiv>	you get nothing at the end of the year from KO
Mar 27 03:55:14 <Namworld>	the percent might be small but remember that product price and share price increase with inflation
Mar 27 03:55:16 <tiberiusiv>	KO is dead money
Mar 27 03:55:26 <tiberiusiv>	namworld no they dont
Mar 27 03:55:26 <Namworld>	So I'm not sure about inflation's impact
Mar 27 03:55:46 <tiberiusiv>	KO stock is roughly where it was in late 90's
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Mar 27 03:55:59 <tiberiusiv>	it hasnt kept up one bit with inflation
Mar 27 03:56:19 <tiberiusiv>	stocks keeping up with inflation is an utter myth
Mar 27 03:56:22 <unlord>	tiberiusiv: okay, so that last statement is just wrong
Mar 27 03:56:34 <unlord>	tiberiusiv: what are you using to measure inflation?
Mar 27 03:56:40 <tiberiusiv>	whats KO trading at?
Mar 27 03:56:52 <unlord>	lol, I thought you just told me it hadn't moved in 20 years?
Mar 27 03:56:59 <tiberiusiv>	unlord use the governments lies even
Mar 27 03:57:01 <tiberiusiv>	CPI/PPI
Mar 27 03:57:03 <unlord>	I assumed you knew the stock price then
Mar 27 03:57:11 <tiberiusiv>	and KO is down 30% in real terms.
Mar 27 03:57:19 <tiberiusiv>	over the last 15 years
Mar 27 03:57:42 <Namworld>	tiberius... do an average of the price
Mar 27 03:57:44 <Namworld>	http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2010/2/26/saupload_02_26_ko_and_cce.jpg
Mar 27 03:57:50 <tiberiusiv>	lol last time KO traded at these levels, oil was $10 a barrel
Mar 27 03:57:52 <unlord>	okay, sure, but I didn't buy in 1998
Mar 27 03:57:55 <Namworld>	It was higher in the 90s but overall, long term, it grows
Mar 27 03:58:29 <tiberiusiv>	yea over what 50 years?
Mar 27 03:58:34 <tiberiusiv>	we arent here forever you know
Mar 27 03:58:38 <unlord>	I bought 12/23/2005
Mar 27 03:58:42 <tiberiusiv>	weve had alot of inflation over the last decade
Mar 27 03:58:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7 = 4.2 BTC [+]
Mar 27 03:59:05 <bgupta>	are you guys factoring in KO dividends being reinvested in buying more KO shares?
Mar 27 03:59:11 <unlord>	bgupta: I am
Mar 27 03:59:24 <tiberiusiv>	KO dividends are low
Mar 27 03:59:41 <bgupta>	2.8% currently
Mar 27 03:59:45 <tiberiusiv>	KO is a mature company, its in every corner of the world
Mar 27 03:59:52 <bgupta>	beats a savings account
Mar 27 03:59:54 <tiberiusiv>	it really has no more growth room
Mar 27 03:59:59 <unlord>	tiberiusiv: its expanding outside of the US at a crazy rate
Mar 27 04:00:13 <tiberiusiv>	its already in every country in the world
Mar 27 04:00:29 <unlord>	tiberiusiv: per capita consumption is still pretty low outside the US
Mar 27 04:00:32 <tiberiusiv>	i mean dont get me wrong its a great company
Mar 27 04:00:34 <tiberiusiv>	its just its MATURED
Mar 27 04:00:37 <unlord>	and there are a lot more people outside the US than inside
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Mar 27 04:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.6 = 12 BTC [+]
Mar 27 04:01:03 <Namworld>	yeah, which kinds of makes it safest, albeit near 0 return
Mar 27 04:01:10 <tiberiusiv>	KO is rising because people are desperate for yield
Mar 27 04:01:14 <tiberiusiv>	thanks to bernanke
Mar 27 04:01:15 <Namworld>	it beats holding fiats, compensates for inflation
Mar 27 04:01:26 <tiberiusiv>	all the bluechips have had a rally
Mar 27 04:02:00 <tiberiusiv>	best long term investments of all time have been tobacco firms
Mar 27 04:02:18 <unlord>	tiberiusiv: since I bought KO, I'm up 150% factoring in dividend reinvestments
Mar 27 04:02:21 <tiberiusiv>	since they are always under some sort of litigation the price has never gotten expensive
Mar 27 04:02:27 <unlord>	in 7 years
Mar 27 04:02:41 <unlord>	that has to beat whatever nominal inflation we've had
Mar 27 04:02:54 <tiberiusiv>	nice to know youve made 500 dollars
Mar 27 04:03:04 <unlord>	dude, did I insult you on here?
Mar 27 04:03:17 <unlord>	is this an investment channel or a speculation channel?
Mar 27 04:03:34 <tiberiusiv>	scams mostly
Mar 27 04:03:39 <unlord>	clearly
Mar 27 04:03:42 <unlord>	thanks for yer time
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Mar 27 04:05:06 <kakobrekla>	calm down kids.
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Mar 27 04:05:35 <tiberiusiv>	a basket of tobacco firms is probably the best protection against inflation if you need income
Mar 27 04:09:56 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 27 04:09:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.30000, Best ask: 85.33531, Bid-ask spread: 0.03531, Last trade: 85.30000, 24 hour volume: 74342.86175279, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 85.30000, 24 hour vwap: 79.27222
Mar 27 04:10:02 <bgupta>	so I am guessing next AM div will be just shy of 1 bitcent.
Mar 27 04:10:24 <tiberiusiv>	well we arent too far from a top in BTC
Mar 27 04:10:37 <kakobrekla>	says who
Mar 27 04:10:50 <tiberiusiv>	https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions
Mar 27 04:11:06 <tiberiusiv>	people are beginning to hoard
Mar 27 04:11:13 <kakobrekla>	you cant read chart
Mar 27 04:11:28 <tiberiusiv>	transactions per day have been decreasing the last 2-3 weeks
Mar 27 04:11:33 <tiberiusiv>	despite record new users
Mar 27 04:11:37 <kakobrekla>	standard deviation
Mar 27 04:11:58 <tiberiusiv>	means more people are now simply holding BTC for further appreciation
Mar 27 04:12:06 <kakobrekla>	it means nothing
Mar 27 04:12:24 <tiberiusiv>	those data points mean alot.
Mar 27 04:12:31 <kakobrekla>	close to zero
Mar 27 04:12:41 <tiberiusiv>	https://blockchain.info/charts/trade-volume
Mar 27 04:12:52 <tiberiusiv>	speculative volumes on the rise
Mar 27 04:13:10 <tiberiusiv>	https://blockchain.info/charts/miners-operating-profit-margin
Mar 27 04:13:14 <kakobrekla>	can you stop pasting random charts
Mar 27 04:13:17 <kakobrekla>	thanks
Mar 27 04:13:17 <tiberiusiv>	miners making record margins
Mar 27 04:13:34 <Namworld>	You infer the biggest things on every littlest changes/details in anything... what's up with that tiberius?
Mar 27 04:13:51 <tiberiusiv>	those are all data points namworld
Mar 27 04:13:54 <tiberiusiv>	its all about probability
Mar 27 04:14:00 <kakobrekla>	tiberiusiv : http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6lXlLwsYeUFIE9rStfgWpkUHkJNUKthG9nQJqVs5vAft1mjtE
Mar 27 04:14:04 <kakobrekla>	this one tells it all
Mar 27 04:14:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01451 BTC [-]
Mar 27 04:14:38 <tiberiusiv>	basically look for the Sp500 to signal a top
Mar 27 04:14:42 <bgupta>	http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-worlds-first-bitcoin-atm-to-dispense-cyprus-bills
Mar 27 04:14:51 <tiberiusiv>	and i THINK its over the next few weeks
Mar 27 04:15:29 <tiberiusiv>	i would also guess that the BTC price will not be much higher at the end of the year then now
Mar 27 04:15:41 <kakobrekla>	#bitcoin-speculation
Mar 27 04:15:42 <kakobrekla>	or something
Mar 27 04:15:44 <kakobrekla>	ok?
Mar 27 04:16:03 <bgupta>	I want to invest in the company making bitcoin atms.
Mar 27 04:16:18 <leotreasure>	me too
Mar 27 04:16:22 <leotreasure>	i sent them an email
Mar 27 04:16:28 <leotreasure>	haven't heard back from them yet
Mar 27 04:16:32 <tiberiusiv>	jeff berwick is a legit guy
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Mar 27 04:18:37 <tiberiusiv>	basically i think we see a blow off top develop over the next little while
Mar 27 04:18:49 <tiberiusiv>	finish the parabolic move
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Mar 27 04:19:03 <kakobrekla>	heya Enky
Mar 27 04:19:09 <Enky>	hi
Mar 27 04:19:43 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 27 04:19:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.30643, Best ask: 86.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.67356, Last trade: 86.30643, 24 hour volume: 75359.24546426, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 86.97748, 24 hour vwap: 79.38315
Mar 27 04:19:51 <dub>	#bitcoin-analysis has some chart jockeys
Mar 27 04:20:21 <kakobrekla>	i have my personal chart jockey
Mar 27 04:20:25 <Bowjob>	2 more days until ianbakewell's scam of truth
Mar 27 04:21:57 <Namworld>	eh...
Mar 27 04:22:04 <Namworld>	600 BTC loaned to short them...
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Mar 27 04:22:14 <Namworld>	I loaned 280 BTC
Mar 27 04:22:21 <Namworld>	thank god I didn't short them...
Mar 27 04:22:26 <Bugpowder>	fastcash4bitcoins is out of funds
Mar 27 04:22:26 <Namworld>	They're doing well
Mar 27 04:22:36 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Mar 27 04:22:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.40000, Best ask: 87.60000, Bid-ask spread: 1.20000, Last trade: 87.69990, 24 hour volume: 75777.12278574, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 79.42575
Mar 27 04:22:50 <Bugpowder>	mtgox hasn't credited my BTC deposit for 8 hours
Mar 27 04:22:51 <Namworld>	87.70000 high
Mar 27 04:22:56 <Bugpowder>	argh
Mar 27 04:22:58 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder fiat or btc
Mar 27 04:23:06 <Bugpowder>	btc
Mar 27 04:23:06 <Bowjob>	are there calls for sale?
Mar 27 04:23:06 <Namworld>	BTC
Mar 27 04:23:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00449 = 0.0674 BTC [-]
Mar 27 04:23:13 <Namworld>	nope, no calls
Mar 27 04:23:17 <Bowjob>	dang
Mar 27 04:23:17 <kakobrekla>	i mean the fastcash4bitcoins
Mar 27 04:23:18 <Namworld>	I got like 1600
Mar 27 04:23:21 <Namworld>	calls
Mar 27 04:23:26 <kakobrekla>	is he out of fiat or out of btc
Mar 27 04:23:33 <Bugpowder>	fastcash isout of fiat
Mar 27 04:23:39 <kakobrekla>	ah
Mar 27 04:23:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00458 = 0.0321 BTC [+]
Mar 27 04:23:47 <Bugpowder>	he may have just turned off the sales though
Mar 27 04:23:50 <Bugpowder>	I cashed out 100
Mar 27 04:23:59 <Bugpowder>	and couldn't cash any more
Mar 27 04:24:39 <Namworld>	bugpowder: actually
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Mar 27 04:24:52 <Namworld>	there was like a set of options with less than 1000 put up
Mar 27 04:24:54 <Namworld>	then nothing
Mar 27 04:25:05 <Namworld>	I think it's just out of funds.
Mar 27 04:25:05 <Bugpowder>	there are options
Mar 27 04:25:24 <Bugpowder>	but some strikes are sold out
Mar 27 04:25:39 <Namworld>	look the asks, they're not 1000s stacks
Mar 27 04:25:45 <Namworld>	and some have been sold out for a while
Mar 27 04:25:52 <Namworld>	Some are a few hundres or less
Mar 27 04:25:56 <Namworld>	Out of funds
Mar 27 04:26:02 <Namworld>	Too much calls bought
Mar 27 04:26:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.00459 = 0.0826 BTC [+]
Mar 27 04:26:47 <Bugpowder>	Yah 610s-750s are sold out
Mar 27 04:26:52 <Bugpowder>	"Thank you for your email. It appears that due to network congestion there is a Lag and this should be rectified in the next 24hrs and we will keep you updated on the status and we apologize for the inconvenience that this may have caused. Let us know if you would require any further assistance regarding this issue."
Mar 27 04:27:15 <Bugpowder>	well at least they sent an email reply in < 5 minutes
Mar 27 04:27:20 <Bugpowder>	even if the answer is bullshit
Mar 27 04:27:45 <Bugpowder>	I'm starting to think 100 is in play this week
Mar 27 04:29:01 <Bowjob>	triple digits eh
Mar 27 04:29:14 <Bowjob>	or move to single digits again
Mar 27 04:29:20 <Bowjob>	0.01 = 1
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Mar 27 04:30:15 <Bugpowder>	how much of this price rise is due to "network lag" at mtgox deposits.
Mar 27 04:30:32 <toffoo>	probably most of it
Mar 27 04:30:43 <toffoo>	what's the price gonna do if deposits aren't credited?
Mar 27 04:30:57 <Bugpowder>	rise until they are
Mar 27 04:31:02 <Bugpowder>	then flashcrash
Mar 27 04:31:08 <toffoo>	exactly
Mar 27 04:31:09 <Bugpowder>	then bounce
Mar 27 04:31:20 <Bugpowder>	mtgox is fucking great for volatility
Mar 27 04:31:31 <toffoo>	something breaks pretty much every day
Mar 27 04:32:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Mar 27 04:32:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [+]
Mar 27 04:34:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-]
Mar 27 04:34:29 <toffoo>	heh .. nailed it
Mar 27 04:35:47 <Bugpowder>	funded
Mar 27 04:36:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490N] 1 @ 0.54019864 BTC [+]
Mar 27 04:37:54 <Bugpowder>	getting eaten
Mar 27 04:38:00 <Bugpowder>	so funny
Mar 27 04:38:07 <leotreasure>	it was mee
Mar 27 04:38:11 <Bugpowder>	it sits there for 60 confirms
Mar 27 04:38:23 <leotreasure>	can anyone tell me what the breakeven price for those options are?
Mar 27 04:38:33 <Bugpowder>	which ones?
Mar 27 04:38:39 <leotreasure>	i thought i worked it out to be around $93 but not sure
Mar 27 04:38:44 <leotreasure>	O.BTCUSD.C490N
Mar 27 04:39:24 <Bugpowder>	;;calc (93-49)/93
Mar 27 04:39:24 <gribble>	0.47311827957
Mar 27 04:39:39 <Bugpowder>	;;calc (104-49)/104
Mar 27 04:39:40 <gribble>	0.528846153846
Mar 27 04:39:46 <Bugpowder>	;;calc (106-49)/106
Mar 27 04:39:46 <gribble>	0.537735849057
Mar 27 04:39:56 <Bugpowder>	About $107
Mar 27 04:40:04 <leotreasure>	oh ok
Mar 27 04:40:06 <leotreasure>	thanks
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Mar 27 04:40:54 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Mar 27 04:40:54 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 27 04:41:08 <error4733>	!last m s.dice
Mar 27 04:41:08 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00448 BTC [-]
Mar 27 04:41:17 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 27 04:41:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.00013, Best ask: 85.03269, Bid-ask spread: 0.03256, Last trade: 85.50000, 24 hour volume: 76866.50921262, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 79.54180
Mar 27 04:41:40 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 27 04:41:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.00013, Best ask: 85.03269, Bid-ask spread: 0.03256, Last trade: 85.50000, 24 hour volume: 76866.50921262, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 79.54180
Mar 27 04:41:48 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 27 04:41:49 <gribble>	42.979658 seconds
Mar 27 04:41:53 <Bowjob>	there we go
Mar 27 04:42:22 <error4733>	panic buy :/
Mar 27 04:44:12 <Bugpowder>	64 coins left
Mar 27 04:44:43 <Bugpowder>	all gone!
Mar 27 04:44:48 <Bugpowder>	ok
Mar 27 04:44:54 <Bugpowder>	now I can buy my Tesla
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Mar 27 04:45:05 <Bugpowder>	or A7/S7
Mar 27 04:45:13 <Bowjob>	dump
Mar 27 04:45:21 <Bugpowder>	Thank you bitcoin!
Mar 27 04:45:22 <Bowjob>	someone dumped to 84.50
Mar 27 04:45:31 <Bugpowder>	It's gonna dump more right now
Mar 27 04:45:38 <Bowjob>	ur dumping?
Mar 27 04:46:05 <Bugpowder>	no I'm out of coins on gox again
Mar 27 04:46:08 <Bugpowder>	just dropped 300
Mar 27 04:46:12 <Namworld>	oh lol, that was you
Mar 27 04:46:34 <Bugpowder>	but there was a BTC funding lag of 8 hours for me
Mar 27 04:46:47 <Bowjob>	buy back at 90
Mar 27 04:46:53 <Bugpowder>	maybe they are clearing the pipe for everyone
Mar 27 04:47:00 <Bugpowder>	I'm not buying
Mar 27 04:47:07 <Bowjob>	so you're odne with btc?
Mar 27 04:47:15 <Bugpowder>	hell no!
Mar 27 04:47:27 <Bugpowder>	why buy btc when you can buy calls?
Mar 27 04:47:31 <Bugpowder>	:-P
Mar 27 04:48:15 <Bowjob>	dump
Mar 27 04:48:17 <Bowjob>	84
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Mar 27 04:52:07 <Bugpowder>	glad I got up to check my shit
Mar 27 04:52:13 <Bugpowder>	in the middle of the night
Mar 27 04:53:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7132 @ 0.00061483 = 4.385 BTC [-]
Mar 27 04:53:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00060977 = 4.9391 BTC [-]
Mar 27 04:53:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00060523 = 0.6052 BTC [-]
Mar 27 04:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00060101 = 9.0152 BTC [-]
Mar 27 04:53:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10944 @ 0.00060001 = 6.5665 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 04:55:45 <Namworld>	it's moving back up tho
Mar 27 04:57:39 <Bowjob>	i guess
Mar 27 04:58:10 <Bowjob>	i wonder whats thew price in a week
Mar 27 05:00:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 10 @ 0.27399999 = 2.74 BTC [+]
Mar 27 05:01:05 <Bowjob>	its 90 dollars on canadian bitcoins
Mar 27 05:01:07 <Bowjob>	hehe
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Mar 27 05:02:26 <tiberiusiv>	lol mpoe continues its crash
Mar 27 05:02:26 <Bugpowder>	mpoe bondholders are going to get slaughtered
Mar 27 05:02:55 <Bugpowder>	mpoe will be fine
Mar 27 05:03:08 <Bugpowder>	unless this makes future bondholders skittish
Mar 27 05:03:28 <tiberiusiv>	mpoe is out of business when real money enters BTC
Mar 27 05:03:28 <Bugpowder>	this rally is so freaking strong
Mar 27 05:03:39 <tiberiusiv>	nobody legit lists on mpoe.
Mar 27 05:03:47 <Bugpowder>	you mean mpex
Mar 27 05:04:07 <tiberiusiv>	havelock will surpass mpex this year
Mar 27 05:04:11 <Bugpowder>	nah
Mar 27 05:04:32 <Bugpowder>	you underestimate the tenacity of mp
Mar 27 05:04:35 <tiberiusiv>	why not? mpex has 1 unique asset
Mar 27 05:04:39 <tiberiusiv>	sdice
Mar 27 05:04:50 <Bugpowder>	its a superior platform
Mar 27 05:04:53 <tiberiusiv>	to do what sell worthless shares? no i dont.
Mar 27 05:05:12 <tiberiusiv>	whats superior about it?
Mar 27 05:05:29 <Bugpowder>	Not interested in wasting sleep explaining it
Mar 27 05:05:35 <Bugpowder>	later dudes.
Mar 27 05:05:39 <Bugpowder>	$$$
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Mar 27 05:05:46 <tiberiusiv>	if it was superior other issuers would have listed on it
Mar 27 05:08:14 <Namworld>	others tried but were not allowed...
Mar 27 05:08:22 <Namworld>	BitVPS was... SatoshiDice was...
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Mar 27 05:09:40 <Bowjob>	I have a friend who bought on march 10.. 3 BFL singles
Mar 27 05:09:50 <Bowjob>	I just told him cancel his BFL orders, they seem scammy as fuck
Mar 27 05:09:55 <Bowjob>	did I do good?
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Mar 27 05:10:06 <Bowjob>	or am i depriving him of riches
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Mar 27 05:12:39 <Bowjob>	http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=470
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Mar 27 05:20:31 <tiberiusiv>	you did good bowjob
Mar 27 05:20:59 <Bowjob>	yes.. yes of course. even if bfl ships, the backlog is insane
Mar 27 05:21:13 <Bowjob>	that he'll get his, idk. 9 months from now
Mar 27 05:21:18 <Bowjob>	and im being generous
Mar 27 05:22:06 <Bowjob>	in other news
Mar 27 05:22:07 <Bowjob>	http://imgur.com/u3znNg8
Mar 27 05:22:16 <Bowjob>	silver gets a smack in the face
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Mar 27 05:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.474998 = 1.9 BTC [+]
Mar 27 05:39:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4749996 = 1.9 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 05:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.19 = 2.38 BTC [+]
Mar 27 05:44:54 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/dXhjpHk.jpg
Mar 27 05:45:01 <Bowjob>	great dog story
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Mar 27 05:46:35 <jurov>	hi all...coinbr really shows different options prices, will dig it
Mar 27 05:49:10 <jurov>	Namworld so BitVPS "tried but not allowed" to list on mpex, orly ????
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Mar 27 05:49:38 <jurov>	or what did you mean?
Mar 27 05:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.475 = 0.95 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 05:52:55 <Namworld>	BitVPS was allowed...
Mar 27 05:53:21 <Namworld>	[05:08] <Namworld> BitVPS was... SatoshiDice was...
Mar 27 05:53:26 <Namworld>	Both were on MPEx
Mar 27 05:53:35 <Namworld>	Now only S.DICE remains
Mar 27 05:59:09 <bgupta>	http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/3/27/technology/bitcoin-gains-cyprus-pain
Mar 27 05:59:56 <saulimus>	correlation != causation ...
Mar 27 06:00:12 <Namworld>	Thank you
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Mar 27 06:02:01 <bgupta>	saulimus: Are you saying that eurowoes have no impact on btc/fiat ratios? (Or where you talkign to someone else?)
Mar 27 06:03:48 <bgupta>	I will say that there is a storm of press coming on btc.. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/03/26/a-short-guide-to-understanding-bitcoins.aspx
Mar 27 06:04:19 <Bowjob>	"The main concern I have with Bitcoins is it's potential ability to be hacked (and then counterfeited). If this did occur, then the value of Bitcoins would ultimately become zero,  Read more: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/3/27/technology/bitcoin-gains-cyprus-pain#ixzz2OjVtRtDJ"
Mar 27 06:04:33 <Bowjob>	damn
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Mar 27 06:06:44 <error4733>	still 5000 waiting  for MT gox confirmation
Mar 27 06:07:00 <error4733>	100$ buy friday ?
Mar 27 06:07:21 <error4733>	+10$ the last 24h
Mar 27 06:07:24 <saulimus>	bgupta, I'm saying it's more probable that the price of bitcoin would've risen the same way had the cyprus situation not happened. articles like that make it seem like it's the only reason... because it's the writer's job to find interesting connections.
Mar 27 06:08:32 <error4733>	FINCEN effect, more than Cyprus imo
Mar 27 06:10:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
Mar 27 06:10:12 <Chaang-Noi>	so i go afk for an hour and we go over 87.7   lol
Mar 27 06:10:40 <Chaang-Noi>	bids and asks are thin
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Mar 27 06:15:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7 = 3.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 06:22:17 <Chaang-Noi>	bgupta w3ashington post did a good one too
Mar 27 06:22:51 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah people are saying cyprus but its not... its FINCEN for sure
Mar 27 06:23:11 <Chaang-Noi>	but who cares, people going to just expect btc to go way up everytime a bank fail so that if okay with me
Mar 27 06:23:20 <Chaang-Noi>	should happen every other mopnth in europe alone
Mar 27 06:23:33 <bgupta>	It's a combination of things creating a feedback loop…
Mar 27 06:24:06 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah and that is why i love btc
Mar 27 06:24:17 <Chaang-Noi>	only 21 million evar and everyone wants them all
Mar 27 06:24:19 <Chaang-Noi>	muhahahahahaha
Mar 27 06:24:42 <bgupta>	The one question I have is if some large entity, gov't or financial, decided to bet against bitcoin, how effective could they be? I mean are there enough available for loan to really do a big short?
Mar 27 06:25:13 <Chaang-Noi>	bet against? lol no, maybe attack
Mar 27 06:26:08 <bgupta>	well.. in traditional markets selling short is selling.. and can stompt out any rallies, if a large enough position is taken.
Mar 27 06:26:56 <tiberiusiv>	the government can simply create a bitcoin-fork and accept it in payment of taxes
Mar 27 06:27:10 <tiberiusiv>	and BTC would collapse
Mar 27 06:27:34 <tiberiusiv>	its not hard to create BTC equivalents
Mar 27 06:27:42 <tiberiusiv>	litecoin has already eaten up 2% of BTC purchasing power
Mar 27 06:28:20 <bgupta>	?? I can't find many merchants that take litecoin?
Mar 27 06:28:36 <tiberiusiv>	point is it can happen
Mar 27 06:28:37 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav oh lol
Mar 27 06:28:39 <Bowjob>	ever the pessimist
Mar 27 06:28:49 <Bowjob>	you can get run over by a bus too tomorrow
Mar 27 06:29:12 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav is just sad he only has .24 btc he scammed in nigeria
Mar 27 06:29:21 <tiberiusiv>	BTC can be debased(inflated) via other cryptos
Mar 27 06:29:31 <tiberiusiv>	eventually a better one comes along
Mar 27 06:29:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i hold 100k ltc so good
Mar 27 06:29:39 <Bowjob>	tiber
Mar 27 06:29:42 <tiberiusiv>	it wont be ltc
Mar 27 06:29:43 <Bowjob>	how much btc do u have
Mar 27 06:29:53 <Bowjob>	and at what price did you sell at
Mar 27 06:29:58 <tiberiusiv>	my cost basis for BTC is low single digits
Mar 27 06:30:05 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 27 06:30:08 <Bowjob>	xd
Mar 27 06:30:10 <tiberiusiv>	and my balance is more then most of this chan excluded maybe mp
Mar 27 06:30:12 <Chaang-Noi>	hahahahhahahhaha lol
Mar 27 06:30:18 <tiberiusiv>	excluding*
Mar 27 06:30:23 <Chaang-Noi>	hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahaahahah my fucking sides
Mar 27 06:30:28 <tiberiusiv>	cost basis meaning my purchase price
Mar 27 06:30:30 <Bowjob>	oh god.
Mar 27 06:30:31 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 27 06:30:42 <Bowjob>	proof?
Mar 27 06:30:51 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav no one in their right mind would think you had more than 2 btc
Mar 27 06:30:53 <tiberiusiv>	fuck you is the proof :)
Mar 27 06:31:02 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 27 06:31:12 <Bowjob>	look dude you are trading pennies for dollars
Mar 27 06:31:20 <Bowjob>	get in now, it hurts but you must accept the fact
Mar 27 06:31:25 <Bowjob>	you will thank me later
Mar 27 06:31:31 <tiberiusiv>	get in what?
Mar 27 06:31:40 <Bowjob>	you will wish you bought $100 worth at 90 dollars per btc
Mar 27 06:31:45 <tiberiusiv>	did you not read what i said?
Mar 27 06:31:57 <tiberiusiv>	i already have btc and have had for awhile.
Mar 27 06:31:58 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav tiverslav you made me laugh outlouad so hard everyone is looking at me like im nuts now
Mar 27 06:32:01 <Bowjob>	look its okay if you sold
Mar 27 06:32:08 <Bowjob>	you can get in now :)
Mar 27 06:32:12 <Bowjob>	still cheap
Mar 27 06:32:14 <tiberiusiv>	i am selling at these levels though
Mar 27 06:32:31 <tiberiusiv>	80-100 am reducing my position
Mar 27 06:32:46 <tiberiusiv>	by 30%
Mar 27 06:33:06 *	Bowjob meow
Mar 27 06:33:20 <Bowjob>	chang
Mar 27 06:34:27 <Bowjob>	oh well
Mar 27 06:34:55 <bgupta>	I'm thinking this run of publicity has a bit more legs in it.. however.. not a bad strategy… I sold most ages ago… but kept a few just in case of events like this happening. (fiat woes) It's the same reason I have some gold coins in my safety deposit box.
Mar 27 06:35:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.475 = 1.425 BTC [+]
Mar 27 06:35:56 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 27 06:35:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.96112, Best ask: 86.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03888, Last trade: 86.00000, 24 hour volume: 76550.92089328, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.04172
Mar 27 06:36:02 <tiberiusiv>	BTC is going to reverse today
Mar 27 06:36:10 <tiberiusiv>	my prediction
Mar 27 06:36:29 <bgupta>	well you have a 50% shot at being right. :)
Mar 27 06:36:54 <Bowjob>	bgupta thats not how it works
Mar 27 06:36:55 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 27 06:37:15 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 27 06:37:42 *	bgupta wonders if there is any short squeezage going on with some of this rally. (IE: Cyprus news + FEDREGs catching people of guard)
Mar 27 06:37:59 <bgupta>	off guard
Mar 27 06:38:00 <tiberiusiv>	theres no way to short btc
Mar 27 06:38:10 <tiberiusiv>	thats why the price is so volatile
Mar 27 06:38:18 <bgupta>	really, I thought mpex allowed that for some reason?
Mar 27 06:38:29 <tiberiusiv>	yea with options
Mar 27 06:38:38 <bgupta>	ohh..
Mar 27 06:38:42 <tiberiusiv>	on a thinly traded exchange
Mar 27 06:38:45 <tiberiusiv>	run by a gypsy
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Mar 27 06:39:13 <bgupta>	a lot is becoming clearer.
Mar 27 06:39:41 <bgupta>	I assumed that by now shorting would have become a regular part of the economy..
Mar 27 06:40:01 <tiberiusiv>	no hence the potential for a crash
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Mar 27 06:40:09 <bgupta>	It's not really shorting if you can't borrow stuff and dump it.
Mar 27 06:40:13 <tiberiusiv>	theres no one covering shorts
Mar 27 06:40:21 <tiberiusiv>	so no bid if a sell off ensues
Mar 27 06:40:30 <tiberiusiv>	= excacerbated prive movements
Mar 27 06:40:39 <tiberiusiv>	price*
Mar 27 06:41:38 <bgupta>	got it.. need to think if options could have any impact on that… what about futures contracts? DO we have those?
Mar 27 06:41:42 <bgupta>	swaps and such?
Mar 27 06:42:04 <tiberiusiv>	we have nothing
Mar 27 06:42:12 <tiberiusiv>	couple illiquid and difficult to fund exchanges
Mar 27 06:42:27 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox takes like 90days to withdraw your funds
Mar 27 06:43:08 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: theres no efficient way to hedge BTC price movements at the moment
Mar 27 06:43:24 <tiberiusiv>	without having to trust dubious 3rd parties located in 3rd world shitholes
Mar 27 06:44:46 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: the liquidity problem hasnt been adressed either
Mar 27 06:44:53 <tiberiusiv>	http://coinlab.com/
Mar 27 06:45:00 <tiberiusiv>	buying 1m costs you 91.70
Mar 27 06:45:05 <tiberiusiv>	selling it nets 80
Mar 27 06:45:44 <bgupta>	well that's only an issue due to spreads, right?
Mar 27 06:46:03 <tiberiusiv>	thin size
Mar 27 06:46:04 <bgupta>	if you are patient.. you should be able to move in and out, without such a spread no?
Mar 27 06:46:16 <tiberiusiv>	not really
Mar 27 06:46:43 <tiberiusiv>	if you bought 1mil @ 91 youd have to wait for a 10-15% movement in price just to get your $ out
Mar 27 06:46:44 <bgupta>	ah I see your point.
Mar 27 06:47:00 <bgupta>	it's for the large $$$ transactions that kill you.
Mar 27 06:47:05 <tiberiusiv>	considering 95% of the community is dealing with ammounts under $100
Mar 27 06:47:12 <tiberiusiv>	they fail to realize that
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Mar 27 06:47:58 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: another area of concern is probably more then 50% of coins are held by couple dozen people
Mar 27 06:48:23 <bgupta>	but also 95% of the community aren't rushing for the exits.. the things that really shook the price back in the day where theives stealing wallets and dumping them for fiat.
Mar 27 06:48:49 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: considering the majority of the community holds very little coins
Mar 27 06:49:01 <tiberiusiv>	its not possible for them to rush to the exits in any meanigful way
Mar 27 06:49:18 <bgupta>	tiberiusiv: depending on who they are, would determine whether that is a good thing or a bad thing.
Mar 27 06:49:29 <bgupta>	unfortuantely we have no way of knowing
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Mar 27 06:49:47 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: we can analyze daily trade vs market cap
Mar 27 06:49:51 <bgupta>	I understand that problem.
Mar 27 06:50:03 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: something like 0.6% of total coins SET the price for them all
Mar 27 06:50:13 <bgupta>	yeah..
Mar 27 06:50:42 <error4733>	they are speculator in BTC land, at some point they will cash out  ! no dout
Mar 27 06:50:56 <tiberiusiv>	well since we dont have shorts that can cover
Mar 27 06:50:57 <bgupta>	there are speculators in every land
Mar 27 06:51:02 <tiberiusiv>	the price move down is violent
Mar 27 06:51:26 <bgupta>	brb
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Mar 27 06:53:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34999 BTC [+]
Mar 27 06:56:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 06:59:29 <bgupta>	so I had a theory back in the day.. that there are a large amount of coins held by a handful of folks who are acting as guardians of the btc economy…
Mar 27 06:59:39 <bgupta>	I suspected that as the price went up they would slowly move some of their holdings into fiat, to be able to buy on any major pullbacks.. (That's what I would do if I was a creator of this currency.)
Mar 27 07:01:19 <bgupta>	they wouldn't have had to sell off much to act as market makers..
Mar 27 07:01:40 <tiberiusiv>	well your theory is wrong
Mar 27 07:01:41 <jurov>	yes, there are whales. but would they use mpex for hedging or sdice for fun? never! (at least according to our tibby)
Mar 27 07:01:55 <bgupta>	tibby?
Mar 27 07:02:01 <tiberiusiv>	lol jurov
Mar 27 07:02:40 <jurov>	i know what happens on coinbr and that they *do* use mpex
Mar 27 07:02:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 69 @ 0.7 = 48.3 BTC [+]
Mar 27 07:02:57 <jurov>	just don't give a fuck about convicing some kid
Mar 27 07:03:10 <tiberiusiv>	right
Mar 27 07:03:50 <tiberiusiv>	only one that takes mpex seriously is its egomaniac founder
Mar 27 07:03:54 <Namworld>	So your balance is like 10k+ or something?
Mar 27 07:04:07 <Namworld>	(catching up on the log)
Mar 27 07:04:13 <Bowjob>	i think tiber is just a troll
Mar 27 07:04:33 <Bowjob>	don't feed him
Mar 27 07:04:39 <jurov>	lol tibby completely misunderstood me
Mar 27 07:05:14 <Namworld>	I thought feeding a troll was getting angry/pissed, since it gives a troll's statisfaction?
Mar 27 07:05:21 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob: you seem to become upset when someone brings up the high likely hood of BTC actually pulling back
Mar 27 07:05:46 <Bowjob>	nah, giving them attention is enough for tiber
Mar 27 07:05:46 <Namworld>	Bowjob is all-in bullish as far as I know.
Mar 27 07:05:49 <jurov>	my word on whole mpex issue is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.msg1665040#msg1665040
Mar 27 07:05:55 <jurov>	i'm not gonna repeat it
Mar 27 07:06:02 <Bowjob>	nah, i still have plenty of fiat
Mar 27 07:06:27 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: no surprise there
Mar 27 07:06:46 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob probably has every line of credit his parents would cosign for him maxed out
Mar 27 07:06:49 <bgupta>	hey, I can't claim to know what btc is gonna do… I have a very small position that I plan to keep in the btc economy..
Mar 27 07:07:14 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: considering btc is fully convertible there really is no such thing as the btc economy
Mar 27 07:07:24 <bgupta>	my goal is to get more btc than I had before.
Mar 27 07:07:32 <Namworld>	I actually took a credit to buy BTC at 5 USD/BTC
Mar 27 07:07:35 <bgupta>	(Without converting any fiat into btc)
Mar 27 07:07:48 <Namworld>	Although only a few thousands, nothing I wouldn't have been able to repaid.
Mar 27 07:08:11 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: the likely hood of successfully doing that with the high fee/deflation nature of BTC is unlikely
Mar 27 07:08:21 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: your best bet is to play satoshidice with proper bet sizing
Mar 27 07:08:46 <Namworld>	SatoshiDice is a sure way to lose
Mar 27 07:08:47 <tiberiusiv>	http://satoshidice.com/
Mar 27 07:09:05 <bgupta>	I don't have a lot of btc, so my trades can easily be absorbed by the market.
Mar 27 07:09:10 <tiberiusiv>	sdice has higher odds of growing a BTC balance then any of the alternatives
Mar 27 07:09:12 <Namworld>	I'm worried about people putting their life savings/maxing credit into Bitcoins at current prices... right after such a steep rise.
Mar 27 07:09:34 <saulimus>	I'm afraid to buy as well
Mar 27 07:09:39 <tiberiusiv>	gbupta: the problem is the trades cost money
Mar 27 07:09:42 <Bowjob>	tiber you're recomending "proper bet sizing"..
Mar 27 07:09:44 <Bowjob>	you're retarded
Mar 27 07:09:48 <Namworld>	Every time I put a few BTC on satoshidice, it's been a lost. Just for fun.
Mar 27 07:09:59 <Namworld>	I've pulled out great profit trading instead however
Mar 27 07:10:07 <tiberiusiv>	gbupta: just play satoshi dice
Mar 27 07:10:15 <Namworld>	(Havelock, BTCT.co, MPEx, Bitfunder, MtGox)
Mar 27 07:10:17 <jurov>	bgupta, if you want moar btc,don't exchange. earn them
Mar 27 07:10:32 <bgupta>	earn them?
Mar 27 07:10:38 <Bowjob>	bgupta you will lose at dice
Mar 27 07:10:40 <tiberiusiv>	earn them? theres only 2 profitable ways to earn btc at the moment
Mar 27 07:10:44 <jurov>	there IS a bitcoin economy, just it's not so advertised and force fed like real one
Mar 27 07:10:45 <tiberiusiv>	sell drugs or provide a gambling service
Mar 27 07:10:57 <bgupta>	Don't worry.. I am not gonna be playing dice.
Mar 27 07:11:01 <jurov>	or program or graphics. or alpaca soicks
Mar 27 07:11:07 <jurov>	or swiss chocolate
Mar 27 07:11:15 <tiberiusiv>	all of that is better bought with fiat
Mar 27 07:11:15 <jurov>	find ur niche
Mar 27 07:11:22 <Namworld>	You can sell services of all sorts... does the work too
Mar 27 07:11:44 <jurov>	tiberiusiv maybe. but swiss chocolate for btcs DOES sell quite well and that matters.
Mar 27 07:11:45 <bgupta>	of you are talking darknet.. I think a good side business would be a paper currency moneychanger.
Mar 27 07:11:58 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: link?
Mar 27 07:12:30 <bgupta>	I know people are looking to get btc without dealing with the exchanges..
Mar 27 07:12:35 <jurov>	1. goto bitcointalk
Mar 27 07:12:40 <jurov>	2. search cocolate
Mar 27 07:12:55 <tiberiusiv>	if it sold so well youd have the link off the top of your head
Mar 27 07:12:57 <bgupta>	what they do with the btc, I can only imagine.. ;)
Mar 27 07:13:21 <jurov>	tiberiusiv you're not the only one who can say just google it, ya know
Mar 27 07:13:30 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: providing money laundering services for silkroad dealers hasnt been fully exploited yet
Mar 27 07:13:32 <Namworld>	We don't have link off the top of our head for everything, silly you. There's hundreds of BTC businesses.
Mar 27 07:13:45 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: many dealers have alot of coins they have trouble cashing out
Mar 27 07:14:13 <jurov>	tiberiusiv now *this* needs a link
Mar 27 07:14:21 <jurov>	or it's just FUD
Mar 27 07:14:29 <tiberiusiv>	read on the SR forums
Mar 27 07:14:36 <tiberiusiv>	its quite amusing
Mar 27 07:14:49 <tiberiusiv>	they have no way to get cash in hand
Mar 27 07:14:56 <tiberiusiv>	reliable way that is
Mar 27 07:15:09 <bgupta>	tiberiusiv: which forum in particular?
Mar 27 07:15:13 <jurov>	ofc. if they used fiat, they'd have the saem problem to aluder it
Mar 27 07:15:16 <tiberiusiv>	silkroad one
Mar 27 07:15:28 <bgupta>	err.. there are like 20 fourms
Mar 27 07:15:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009994 BTC [+]
Mar 27 07:15:36 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: well thats what i didnt understand, BTC is easier to launder then fiat paper
Mar 27 07:15:51 <Namworld>	on that one, I'd be with tiberius... cashing out must be harder for dealers. Cash can come in fast. Cashing out without going through an exchange can be hard.
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Mar 27 07:16:04 <Namworld>	If they want to avoid linking a bank account...
Mar 27 07:16:13 <jurov>	once they want to convert thousands of btcs it's exactly the same issue
Mar 27 07:16:15 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: you should always be with me
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Mar 27 07:16:22 <Namworld>	(Assuming they don't trust SR itself)
Mar 27 07:16:33 <Namworld>	No, I disagree with a lot of what you say so...
Mar 27 07:16:49 <tiberiusiv>	well the problem is only the russians offer the best cashout services so far
Mar 27 07:17:05 <tiberiusiv>	btc-e has like 90 withdraw methods
Mar 27 07:17:08 <jurov>	tiberiusiv i don't know why you care so much to SR
Mar 27 07:17:21 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: i glanced at it out of curiosity
Mar 27 07:17:25 <tiberiusiv>	am not a user though
Mar 27 07:17:46 <jurov>	my business is legit, i don't have a problem providing id to bitcoin-central and cashing out at price consistently few euros above market
Mar 27 07:18:07 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin central has no liquidity
Mar 27 07:18:07 <jurov>	and report the earnigns to be taxed
Mar 27 07:18:22 <jurov>	what liquidity do you need?
Mar 27 07:18:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 0.7 = 14.7 BTC [+]
Mar 27 07:18:41 <tiberiusiv>	id like it if mtgox did 500k coins everyday
Mar 27 07:18:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.7 = 9.8 BTC [+]
Mar 27 07:19:08 <jurov>	for converting few hundred euros to live off every while it has ample liquidity
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Mar 27 07:19:25 <tiberiusiv>	what area are you living in for a couple hundred euros?
Mar 27 07:19:31 <jurov>	i don't need move thousands of btcs like these poor silkroaders
Mar 27 07:19:33 <Namworld>	hmm... slight wall building up at 86 USD per BTC... price approaching all time high again
Mar 27 07:19:33 <tiberiusiv>	has to be eastern europe
Mar 27 07:19:38 <jurov>	yes, slovakia
Mar 27 07:19:49 <tiberiusiv>	ive been there
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Mar 27 07:19:56 <tiberiusiv>	along those mountains
Mar 27 07:20:16 <tiberiusiv>	aweful food
Mar 27 07:20:26 <jurov>	lol
Mar 27 07:20:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7 = 4.2 BTC [+]
Mar 27 07:21:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.715 BTC [+]
Mar 27 07:21:07 <jurov>	nobody scammed you?
Mar 27 07:21:30 <tiberiusiv>	ammount of gypsys hanging alongside the roadways was astonishing
Mar 27 07:21:42 <tiberiusiv>	how did they get into slovakia anyway?
Mar 27 07:22:02 <jurov>	they were all around yurp before wwii
Mar 27 07:22:11 <jurov>	they just got wiped out elsewhere
Mar 27 07:23:24 <jurov>	and in recent decades they breed much faster than "whites"... so slovakia will prolly become a gypsy country soon
Mar 27 07:23:44 <tiberiusiv>	strange about slovakia just across the border in PL the food quality jumped ten fold while being half the price
Mar 27 07:24:06 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Mar 27 07:24:19 <Diablo-D3>	another person who thinks gypsy is a race and not a mythological creature
Mar 27 07:24:20 <jurov>	were you eating at restaurants? cuz slovaks don't give a shit about services
Mar 27 07:24:38 <tiberiusiv>	yes i noticed that jurov
Mar 27 07:24:46 <jurov>	Diablo-D3: how do you call these chocolate people then? roma?
Mar 27 07:24:51 <tiberiusiv>	im sure it was because i picked some tourist trap
Mar 27 07:25:08 <tiberiusiv>	gypsys are from india
Mar 27 07:25:12 <Diablo-D3>	dude, if they're _chocolate_ I call them african
Mar 27 07:25:14 <tiberiusiv>	displaced in europe by the ottomans
Mar 27 07:25:31 <Diablo-D3>	unless they're some of those really dark indians
Mar 27 07:25:41 <tiberiusiv>	better to stay away from them since they usually engage in witchcraft
Mar 27 07:25:52 <tiberiusiv>	put some curse on you
Mar 27 07:25:52 <jurov>	1. these gypsies look like indians 2. they speak like indians 3. wtf are they then?
Mar 27 07:26:06 <tiberiusiv>	the ottomans displaced them
Mar 27 07:26:29 <tiberiusiv>	diablo i didnt understand your race/creature comment?
Mar 27 07:27:42 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: how does the assumingly corrupt and inefficient government of slovakia even know what you are depositing in your bank account?
Mar 27 07:28:29 <jurov>	cuz i'm registered entrepreneur (even VAT registered). so they have a right to look into my accts anytime
Mar 27 07:28:33 <Chaang-Noi>	am going up:)
Mar 27 07:28:35 <Chaang-Noi>	nice
Mar 27 07:29:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 07:29:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.00000, Best ask: 87.16999, Bid-ask spread: 0.16999, Last trade: 87.00000, 24 hour volume: 76848.95819924, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.37796
Mar 27 07:29:54 <ThickAsThieves>	nice!
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Mar 27 07:32:07 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: speaking indian isn't a useful description
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Mar 27 07:32:21 <Diablo-D3>	there is something like 5 major languages spoken on the indian subcontinent
Mar 27 07:32:36 <Diablo-D3>	but if they look like indians and speak an indian language, they might be, you know, indians
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Mar 27 07:33:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i can speak a bit of charakee
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Mar 27 07:33:29 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: indian from india dude
Mar 27 07:33:34 <jurov>	they are some lowest indian caste that got expelled in 12th century.
Mar 27 07:33:44 <jurov>	and they call themselves gysies or rome
Mar 27 07:33:47 <Diablo-D3>	and its spelled Cherokee
Mar 27 07:33:48 <jurov>	*roma
Mar 27 07:34:05 <jurov>	roaming around eur since then
Mar 27 07:34:12 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: Ive never seen a "gypsy" that looks indian
Mar 27 07:34:48 <bgupta>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people guys read first para
Mar 27 07:34:51 <jurov>	http://www.aktuality.sk/clanok/217087/obcania-protestovali-proti-stahovaniu-romov-z-letanovskej-osady/
Mar 27 07:35:01 <jurov>	^ slovak roma seen here
Mar 27 07:35:24 <Chaang-Noi>	D3 i just trollin:)
Mar 27 07:35:41 <jurov>	if they don't resemble indians, then dunno
Mar 27 07:36:05 <bgupta>	"The Romani are an ethnic group living mostly in Europe, who have been traced genetically to a group migrating from the northwestern Indian Subcontinent about 1,500 years ago."
Mar 27 07:36:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i was in india, in kashmire and they have people with blue eyes and light skin
Mar 27 07:36:39 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: probably ex-nazis from ww2
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Mar 27 07:37:00 <Chaang-Noi>	hungarians are from north west china... from 2000 years ago
Mar 27 07:37:24 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: hell, thats nothing new
Mar 27 07:37:32 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 lol no, there is a group in afghan/packastian/india that came from alaxander the great when he came down 2500 eyars ago
Mar 27 07:37:50 <Diablo-D3>	one of the 12 kinds of chinese seems to be descended by a bunch of romans that followed the silk road the whole way dow
Mar 27 07:37:52 <Chaang-Noi>	they be musliumz mostly now
Mar 27 07:38:13 <Chaang-Noi>	no roman in recorded history ever made it to china
Mar 27 07:38:19 <Chaang-Noi>	or chinese to rome
Mar 27 07:38:33 <Chaang-Noi>	not saying it did not happen but no one wrote about it, that survives
Mar 27 07:38:42 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: they have roman artifacts, but they're not sure if the artifacts alone made it
Mar 27 07:38:44 <Chaang-Noi>	im a history dude way more than anything else:)
Mar 27 07:38:54 <Chaang-Noi>	rome did trade with china
Mar 27 07:39:20 <Diablo-D3>	and I forgot about alexander the great, btw
Mar 27 07:39:33 <Chaang-Noi>	he is my nigger!
Mar 27 07:39:41 <Diablo-D3>	dude, he is nobody's nigger
Mar 27 07:39:46 <Diablo-D3>	hes more made up than anything else
Mar 27 07:39:48 <Chaang-Noi>	got to india, saw a line of elephants and was like... ummm, lets go home
Mar 27 07:40:21 <Chaang-Noi>	alaxander is just like santa clause, tricks we play on history 101 students
Mar 27 07:40:28 <Chaang-Noi>	we all know he is a made up guy
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Mar 27 07:41:02 <jurov>	brb
Mar 27 07:41:49 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, fuck, he had an empire that spanned from greece to india
Mar 27 07:41:52 <Diablo-D3>	thats just impossible.
Mar 27 07:41:59 <tiberiusiv>	who
Mar 27 07:42:39 <Chaang-Noi>	he did not really have an emipre... he just raped everything he came to until india... he also took over the empires in his way leaving most of the govt there, just killing the kinds and marrying the exwifes
Mar 27 07:42:46 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslave the 7th pope
Mar 27 07:43:02 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yeah, pretty much
Mar 27 07:43:11 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 if you know how he did it, it is very reasonable
Mar 27 07:43:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00415005 = 4.1501 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 07:43:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00415004 = 4.15 BTC [-]
Mar 27 07:43:30 <Chaang-Noi>	he just kept adding to his army as he beat other ones, sooner or later the other guys just sureendered
Mar 27 07:43:47 <Diablo-D3>	but its pretty much embedded into every white guy now: fear anyone from greece that has an army of macedonians behind them
Mar 27 07:43:49 <Chaang-Noi>	but once he got to india he got an army of like all of india, with massive elehpants and shit
Mar 27 07:44:06 <Chaang-Noi>	95% of his army at the end was not macidonian
Mar 27 07:44:13 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159462.0
Mar 27 07:44:15 <Diablo-D3>	you missed the point
Mar 27 07:44:22 <Chaang-Noi>	also he was not greek,
Mar 27 07:44:26 <Bowjob>	chang, check it
Mar 27 07:44:38 <Bowjob>	still not sure if its a good idea or not
Mar 27 07:44:39 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 27 07:44:54 <Chaang-Noi>	using paypal? might be a good idea? hahahahha
Mar 27 07:44:59 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck banks and esp fuck paypal
Mar 27 07:45:08 <Bowjob>	no dude you're missing the point
Mar 27 07:45:09 <Bowjob>	lol
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Mar 27 07:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00415003 = 4.15 BTC [-]
Mar 27 07:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 835 @ 0.00415001 = 3.4653 BTC [-]
Mar 27 07:45:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i see paypal and brian shuts down, fuck paypal man
Mar 27 07:46:38 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yes, but macedonia no longer exists
Mar 27 07:46:39 <Bowjob>	brian
Mar 27 07:46:41 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 27 07:47:01 <Diablo-D3>	get a brian moran
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Mar 27 07:47:43 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Mar 27 07:53:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.714995 = 7.15 BTC [-]
Mar 27 07:53:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.715 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 08:00:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.107499 BTC [+]
Mar 27 08:04:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.1922 BTC [-]
Mar 27 08:05:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00414 = 0.0621 BTC [-]
Mar 27 08:05:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 110 @ 0.00413 = 0.4543 BTC [-]
Mar 27 08:05:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 54 @ 0.00412 = 0.2225 BTC [-]
Mar 27 08:05:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.6986 = 1.3972 BTC [-]
Mar 27 08:06:42 <Bowjob>	Eurozone Chief: Savings accounts in Spain, Italy and other European countries will be raided if needed
Mar 27 08:06:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19257 BTC [-]
Mar 27 08:06:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1925 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 08:12:29 <Bowjob>	;;tocler
Mar 27 08:12:29 <gribble>	Error: "tocler" is not a valid command.
Mar 27 08:12:31 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 27 08:12:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.63544, Best ask: 85.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01456, Last trade: 85.65000, 24 hour volume: 77073.18838681, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.52340
Mar 27 08:12:38 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 27 08:12:38 <gribble>	13.583927 seconds
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Mar 27 08:14:01 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 27 08:14:04 <gribble>	There are currently 36640973 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9691361.22066 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0182 seconds
Mar 27 08:14:12 <Bugpowder>	still going up
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Mar 27 08:14:57 <bgupta>	lag or price?
Mar 27 08:15:05 <Bugpowder>	total USD in bids
Mar 27 08:15:15 <Bugpowder>	a proxy for the amount of money sittingn in gox accounts
Mar 27 08:15:20 <Bugpowder>	that has not be used yet
Mar 27 08:15:27 <Bugpowder>	I have never seen it this high.
Mar 27 08:15:38 <Bugpowder>	9$.7M
Mar 27 08:15:43 <Bugpowder>	$9.7M
Mar 27 08:16:00 <pizzaman1337>	interesting idea
Mar 27 08:16:07 <pizzaman1337>	;;asks 100000000
Mar 27 08:16:10 <gribble>	There are currently 47942.779 bitcoins offered at or under 100000000.0 USD, worth 363654447.184 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0028 seconds
Mar 27 08:16:15 <Bugpowder>	that is less informative
Mar 27 08:16:16 <Schadenfreude>	Anybody knows how often Jurov processes CoinBR withdrawals?
Mar 27 08:16:43 <kakobrekla>	50k on gox lol
Mar 27 08:16:52 <pgp>	not often enough
Mar 27 08:16:58 <Bugpowder>	There is definitely more than 50k sitting in dark pools on gox
Mar 27 08:17:13 <pgp>	no automation for even the smallest withdrawls...
Mar 27 08:17:19 <Bugpowder>	although there may be an extra 10M USD in dark pools too
Mar 27 08:17:37 <Bugpowder>	pgp security or convienence, pick one.
Mar 27 08:17:41 <Chaang-Noi>	gox be playing wiht all the stolen bitcoinica money
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Mar 27 08:18:34 <Bugpowder>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 27 08:18:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00415001 / 0.00440089 / 0.00449999 (16048 shares, 70.63 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.0043828 / 0.005598 (277727 shares, 1,217.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.0052747 / 0.0063799 (1198162 shares, 6,319.96 BTC)
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Mar 27 08:20:13 <Bugpowder>	fastcash funds are back
Mar 27 08:21:16 <Schadenfreude>	Meh, I already sign with a BTC-adress to withdraw from CoinBR, it's a bit annoying
Mar 27 08:22:03 <Bugpowder>	tru
Mar 27 08:22:37 <Schadenfreude>	Let's hope it gets through before the price correction#
Mar 27 08:22:52 <Bugpowder>	I don't think there will be a correction before friday
Mar 27 08:23:21 <Bugpowder>	the total gox bids keep going up
Mar 27 08:23:37 <Namworld>	*sigh*
Mar 27 08:23:44 <Bugpowder>	before the crash last friday, total gox bids dropped from 8.1M to 6.1M
Mar 27 08:23:54 <Namworld>	another BitVPS client which paid with a stolen Paypal account.
Mar 27 08:24:08 <kakobrekla>	cut yourself free of fiat money
Mar 27 08:24:09 <Bugpowder>	I sold off my calls for a 3x gain.  Rebought at the bottom.
Mar 27 08:24:16 <MJR_>	nice
Mar 27 08:24:29 <Bugpowder>	preach it brother
Mar 27 08:25:04 <MJR_>	Bugpowder: i exercised at 71 :(
Mar 27 08:25:06 <Bugpowder>	Anyway.... watch the gox bids. I think it may be a leading indicator of corrections
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Mar 27 08:25:18 <Bugpowder>	MJR_: why did you exercise?
Mar 27 08:25:20 <Bowjob>	correction upwards?
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Mar 27 08:26:00 <Namworld>	Bugpowder: neat. Gains on a significant amount of BTC?
Mar 27 08:26:52 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 27 08:26:52 <gribble>	80.51
Mar 27 08:28:01 <MJR_>	man...
Mar 27 08:28:07 <MJR_>	all the options are too expensive...
Mar 27 08:28:16 <MJR_>	need some like 110 calls :(
Mar 27 08:29:55 <MJR_>	hmmm
Mar 27 08:30:00 <Bugpowder>	Namworld: Had 10% of my nut in calls. they tripled.  Sold... Rebought with the profits at the bottom of the weekend dip vwap. Best month ever.
Mar 27 08:30:04 <MJR_>	that is an interesting metric Bugpowder
Mar 27 08:30:19 <MJR_>	i'm kicking myself for exercising at 71
Mar 27 08:30:30 <Bugpowder>	MJR_: I have not followed it for long enough to be sure, but worked last week.
Mar 27 08:30:34 <MJR_>	even with s.dice performance, up 117% overall
Mar 27 08:30:47 <MJR_>	speaking of which
Mar 27 08:30:53 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Mar 27 08:30:55 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 228244 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1579 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 17 hours, 47 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6742099.53802 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.69108
Mar 27 08:30:56 <Bugpowder>	why did you exercise though?
Mar 27 08:30:58 <MJR_>	is it a sure thing that we will not be seeing any dividends this month?
Mar 27 08:31:01 <kakobrekla>	we need more hash
Mar 27 08:31:08 <Bugpowder>	bot always pays more than exercise price
Mar 27 08:31:15 <Bugpowder>	due to time premium
Mar 27 08:31:16 <MJR_>	figured that i had the vwap at 71 and it already dropped to 63
Mar 27 08:31:21 <MJR_>	so i could exercise then
Mar 27 08:31:25 <MJR_>	but i didn't buy back in
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Mar 27 08:31:38 <Bugpowder>	but just sell back to the bot
Mar 27 08:31:47 <MJR_>	he was offering less
Mar 27 08:31:52 <kakobrekla>	mining profitability is too high
Mar 27 08:31:55 <Bugpowder>	are you sure?
Mar 27 08:32:04 <Bugpowder>	I've never see the bot go lower
Mar 27 08:32:10 <MJR_>	not sure, but i think so...i exercised from my cell phone as i was walking into a meeting
Mar 27 08:32:17 <Bugpowder>	unless bot is using mtgox vwap not 24hprc
Mar 27 08:32:35 <MJR_>	i think the bot is aware of the mt gox price but not sure he uses it
Mar 27 08:32:44 <MJR_>	because one time during the flash crash i got filled on a bunch of calls
Mar 27 08:33:00 <MJR_>	we are bumping into the ceiling hard though
Mar 27 08:33:13 <MJR_>	wonder what 100 calls would be for next month
Mar 27 08:33:37 <Namworld>	idk but we're raising fast
Mar 27 08:33:40 <Namworld>	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
Mar 27 08:33:47 <MJR_>	yep
Mar 27 08:33:54 <MJR_>	100 in april it looks like
Mar 27 08:34:07 <MJR_>	if not more...i just think that is the second biggest psychological barrier
Mar 27 08:34:18 <MJR_>	after the 32
Mar 27 08:34:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.016 BTC [+]
Mar 27 08:34:21 <Namworld>	we're still full on on an exponential course
Mar 27 08:34:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01572 BTC [-]
Mar 27 08:34:27 <Namworld>	It's just crazy
Mar 27 08:34:31 <MJR_>	that is a bit scary
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Mar 27 08:34:45 <MJR_>	i decided to take my trading profits from yesterday and switch back to lending
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Mar 27 08:35:07 <Namworld>	I steer away from lending now... but you can loan to me.
Mar 27 08:35:08 <MJR_>	pretty nice when you are trying to decide between 280% apy or 10% in one day trading
Mar 27 08:35:15 <pgp>	my guess is that we will be in for some volatility today...
Mar 27 08:35:19 <MJR_>	lol, margin lending on bitfinex
Mar 27 08:35:25 <MJR_>	i agree totally
Mar 27 08:35:35 <Namworld>	margin lending =/
Mar 27 08:35:40 <tiberiusiv>	100 is just a number
Mar 27 08:35:42 <MJR_>	but my long overnight position worked well, though i got stopped loss and didn't get the top
Mar 27 08:35:46 <tiberiusiv>	theres no evidence of any barrier
Mar 27 08:36:06 <MJR_>	tiberiusiv: you are so right, no one will remark on the fact that we hit triple digits
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Mar 27 08:36:16 <tiberiusiv>	means nothing.
Mar 27 08:36:18 <MJR_>	tiberiusiv: just another day, there won't be articles saying that
Mar 27 08:36:36 <tiberiusiv>	you should be concerned with the latest price movement
Mar 27 08:36:38 <MJR_>	ugh...i can't get sucked into your trollery today...sorry
Mar 27 08:36:44 <Namworld>	MJR, loan to me, I have plenty of collateral and I'm borrowing =P
Mar 27 08:37:03 <MJR_>	Namworld: whats the interest? i think i already am lending to you through btc-bond
Mar 27 08:37:12 <Namworld>	yeah, BTC-BOND
Mar 27 08:37:14 <tiberiusiv>	namworld how do you intend on repaying might i ask?
Mar 27 08:37:23 <tiberiusiv>	where is your income from?
Mar 27 08:37:23 <MJR_>	i thought you were going to start calling some of those bonds?
Mar 27 08:37:38 <Namworld>	shares, a whole lot of them
Mar 27 08:37:42 <MJR_>	btc bond is a great investment
Mar 27 08:37:54 <tiberiusiv>	what are you using the btc on
Mar 27 08:37:56 <MJR_>	i love daily interest
Mar 27 08:38:43 <Namworld>	in some businesses such as: www.satoshidice.com - www.bitcoinpride.com - www.bitvps.com and more
Mar 27 08:39:35 <tiberiusiv>	https://btct.co/security/BTC-BOND
Mar 27 08:39:58 <tiberiusiv>	so this is basically some guy trading on leverage provided by dimwits like MJR
Mar 27 08:40:15 <Namworld>	I keep my debt at a fraction of my outstanding loan so it can mitigate the risk of something failing.
Mar 27 08:40:54 <tiberiusiv>	BTC-BOND so the guy borrows to "trade" options?
Mar 27 08:41:07 <tiberiusiv>	am i correct
Mar 27 08:41:35 <tiberiusiv>	lol @ bitcoinpride
Mar 27 08:42:13 <Namworld>	Among other things. But the biggest earnings are from buying and flipping shares right back. There's some pretty big gaps in prices with illiquidity
Mar 27 08:42:32 <tiberiusiv>	so your trading on leverage basically
Mar 27 08:42:36 <Namworld>	I try not to have my toes dipped in most things for too long.
Mar 27 08:42:43 <Namworld>	Basically, yes.
Mar 27 08:43:16 <tiberiusiv>	thats the same thing btc-bond does?
Mar 27 08:43:24 <tiberiusiv>	or is btc bond you
Mar 27 08:43:31 <Namworld>	BTC-BOND is me.
Mar 27 08:44:07 <tiberiusiv>	MJR how do you quantify BTC-BOND being a "great" investment
Mar 27 08:44:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 08:44:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.30101, Best ask: 86.74000, Bid-ask spread: 0.43899, Last trade: 86.74000, 24 hour volume: 75041.74738403, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.66941
Mar 27 08:46:59 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: you should be a pro in the big leagues
Mar 27 08:47:36 <tiberiusiv>	being able to pay that type of interest from options trading
Mar 27 08:47:57 <Namworld>	I pay 10.95% per year (0.03% daily)
Mar 27 08:48:03 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 27 08:48:12 <tiberiusiv>	on a currency like bitcoin that is amazing
Mar 27 08:48:25 <Namworld>	I suspect it's because I keep it at a fraction of my total worth and that I'm spread out among various exchanges and businesse types. Things could fail spectacularly and I'd still be able to repay all my debt. People like that.
Mar 27 08:48:31 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Mar 27 08:48:32 <gribble>	86.511175 seconds
Mar 27 08:48:35 <tiberiusiv>	why arent you earning real $$ in NYSE options vs selling tshirts?
Mar 27 08:48:35 <jurov>	it's not a problem to at all have such earnings from btc options
Mar 27 08:48:42 <Namworld>	And since I'm flipping shares in BTC, income is in BTC.
Mar 27 08:49:18 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, on NYSE if you figure out a strategy, there is 100ppl with same idea already
Mar 27 08:49:19 <Namworld>	Otherwise IDK why people would lend BTC at thos rate, they usually require multiple % per week on BTC loans.
Mar 27 08:49:31 <Namworld>	Hardly 1% per month.
Mar 27 08:49:39 <jurov>	here you're usually alone, and for long time
Mar 27 08:49:42 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: whats your btc strategy, just keep longing calls and selling puts
Mar 27 08:49:49 <tiberiusiv>	excellent
Mar 27 08:49:52 <jurov>	thanks to people like you that scream OMG ITS A SCAM
Mar 27 08:50:11 <tiberiusiv>	being alone is a good thing?
Mar 27 08:50:20 <Namworld>	Also, I'm not sure I'm fit for the NYSE. BTC is easier, more movement, larger spread, no competition. It's a good training ground at least.
Mar 27 08:50:20 <jurov>	in this case yes
Mar 27 08:50:22 <tiberiusiv>	the same rules apply here as in NYSE
Mar 27 08:50:55 <Namworld>	NYSE is more competitive. Less spreads too.
Mar 27 08:51:08 <tiberiusiv>	yes less chance of getting stuck in a position
Mar 27 08:51:22 <tiberiusiv>	= better risk management
Mar 27 08:51:37 <tiberiusiv>	why arent you playing SPY options to learn?
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Mar 27 08:52:15 <tiberiusiv>	http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=SPY
Mar 27 08:52:16 <Bugpowder>	SPY options are too competitive
Mar 27 08:52:17 <jurov>	sry, if that "learning" would make me such a zealot like you are... no thanks :)
Mar 27 08:52:21 <Bugpowder>	you will get you face ripped off
Mar 27 08:52:31 <Namworld>	I had so many different assets in BTC, I was spending lots of time watching markets/refreshing pages. Income has grown.
Mar 27 08:52:40 <Bugpowder>	the bitcoin options market is much less efficient
Mar 27 08:52:49 <Namworld>	I've left my day job to have time to do all this trading.
Mar 27 08:52:56 <Namworld>	Some months ago
Mar 27 08:52:59 <Bugpowder>	Money is made by exploiting the inefficiencies of the market
Mar 27 08:53:01 <tiberiusiv>	everyones only making money in BTC options because the trend has been one way for months
Mar 27 08:53:18 <Chaang-Noi>	well bearz....
Mar 27 08:53:20 <Namworld>	I've made a lot of put. I've been trying to go short since 30 USD/BTC
Mar 27 08:53:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1075 = 0.9675 BTC [+]
Mar 27 08:53:25 <Namworld>	I've made losses there
Mar 27 08:53:38 <tiberiusiv>	the losses that will be taken by some of the ppl here during violent reversals will be a source of entertainment
Mar 27 08:53:39 <Bugpowder>	If you would look at the history, people have been net losers in the options every month but august
Mar 27 08:53:43 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, there were some whale bears that tried to move mkt down and cash out options.. but they failed
Mar 27 08:53:56 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: same with spy
Mar 27 08:53:58 <tiberiusiv>	its all losers
Mar 27 08:53:59 <Bugpowder>	this month looks like people are actually going to come out on top
Mar 27 08:53:59 <Namworld>	I still believe this is going to crash. I'll still have puts each month ready.
Mar 27 08:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85 BTC [+]
Mar 27 08:54:35 <Namworld>	Anyway, I'm pretty much doing this full time by now...
Mar 27 08:54:39 <tiberiusiv>	jurov i very much doubt that, whale to you is 100btc.
Mar 27 08:54:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Mar 27 08:54:46 <Bugpowder>	I lost plenty of money trading options in 2007-2009
Mar 27 08:54:48 <tiberiusiv>	whalebears would be 20-30% of BTC market cap
Mar 27 08:54:52 <tiberiusiv>	and they are out there
Mar 27 08:55:05 <Bugpowder>	btc market is 100x more exploitable
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Mar 27 08:55:14 <Bugpowder>	by someone with my resources
Mar 27 08:55:37 <Bugpowder>	long term options trading in real financial markets is a loser for the retail investor
Mar 27 08:55:51 <Bugpowder>	in btc options, I think it can be a winner
Mar 27 08:55:55 <Bugpowder>	at least for me.
Mar 27 08:55:59 <tiberiusiv>	options trading in general is a losing proposition over the long run
Mar 27 08:56:16 <Bugpowder>	I agree with that statement
Mar 27 08:56:21 <deadweasel>	bug, if you were to buy an option right now, which one would you buy?
Mar 27 08:56:23 <Bugpowder>	particularly when the spread is 30% on the bot
Mar 27 08:56:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.714994 = 1.43 BTC [+]
Mar 27 08:56:42 <tiberiusiv>	deadweasel 50 puts
Mar 27 08:56:43 <Bugpowder>	If the bot was still offfering C750Ts, I would buy them
Mar 27 08:57:00 <Bugpowder>	I would perhaps buy puts tomrrow
Mar 27 08:57:01 <MJR_>	Bugpowder: they were pretty expensive
Mar 27 08:57:06 <deadweasel>	tiberiusiv: i would tend to agree, as I believe this is the ceiling for the day.
Mar 27 08:57:20 <Bugpowder>	If I were actaully going to buy anything though, I would do it
Mar 27 08:57:24 <Bugpowder>	instead of sitting here
Mar 27 08:57:27 <Bugpowder>	typing
Mar 27 08:57:36 <Bugpowder>	right now, I'm not buying or selling anything
Mar 27 08:57:49 <Bugpowder>	90% of the time, the best trade is to do nothing
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Mar 27 08:58:00 <MJR_>	hehehe, i decided to take a break from trading too...just lending now
Mar 27 08:58:00 <tiberiusiv>	its all about defense
Mar 27 08:58:00 <Namworld>	http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/
Mar 27 08:58:06 <tiberiusiv>	something dummies like MJR never understand
Mar 27 08:58:11 <tiberiusiv>	he needs constant action
Mar 27 08:58:23 <tiberiusiv>	risks his capital for meager returns
Mar 27 08:58:28 <Namworld>	Use it, it's useful. Better on chrome tho, other browsers tend to drop websocket connection a lot more.
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Mar 27 08:58:55 <Bugpowder>	Actually, the best play right now looks to be buying S.MPOE
Mar 27 08:59:22 <Bugpowder>	maybe not actually
Mar 27 08:59:23 <tiberiusiv>	why?
Mar 27 08:59:28 <tiberiusiv>	it trades at like 1000 p/e
Mar 27 08:59:34 <Chaang-Noi>	wont they loss their ass on options this month?
Mar 27 08:59:36 <tiberiusiv>	bbet is even funnier
Mar 27 08:59:42 <Bugpowder>	bbet is pretty funny
Mar 27 08:59:45 <tiberiusiv>	$100 income a month valued at 1mil by the gypsy
Mar 27 08:59:54 <Bugpowder>	well, its valued by the market
Mar 27 08:59:58 <Namworld>	Chaang-Noi: MPOE income comes from % on trading...
Mar 27 09:00:01 <tiberiusiv>	there isnt one
Mar 27 09:00:11 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
Mar 27 09:00:20 <Chaang-Noi>	then how could it be valued anywhere near what it is?
Mar 27 09:00:26 <Bugpowder>	if MPOE survives without a loss this month, it will bounce to 0.00075
Mar 27 09:00:34 <kakobrekla>	is gonna be like 40 or 50 btc this month i think (estimate)
Mar 27 09:00:38 <tiberiusiv>	chaang its not.
Mar 27 09:00:38 <Namworld>	The money for options is borrowed from people depositing for a % I believe
Mar 27 09:00:43 <kakobrekla>	slightly over 100$
Mar 27 09:00:44 <kakobrekla>	;)
Mar 27 09:00:52 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: bbest valuation is based on growth expectations
Mar 27 09:00:59 <Namworld>	Those people are risking their funds for a %
Mar 27 09:01:03 <tiberiusiv>	no its based on the gypsys ego
Mar 27 09:01:05 <Bugpowder>	which at 200000 satoshi, are pretty aggressive
Mar 27 09:01:09 <tiberiusiv>	same with mpoe
Mar 27 09:01:21 <MJR_>	whats the oix at?
Mar 27 09:01:22 <jurov>	<tiberiusiv> jurov i very much doubt that, whale to you is 100btc. <<< lol, now how did you came to that conclusion?
Mar 27 09:01:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i only hold AM :/
Mar 27 09:01:29 <Bugpowder>	MPOE has paid out 1% on good months
Mar 27 09:01:47 <tiberiusiv>	what does mPOE pay for btc
Mar 27 09:01:55 <Chaang-Noi>	so in 100 good months they break even :)
Mar 27 09:01:57 <Bugpowder>	5-10%
Mar 27 09:02:05 <tiberiusiv>	a year
Mar 27 09:02:25 <Bugpowder>	MPOE bot pays 5-10% on capital used
Mar 27 09:02:29 <tiberiusiv>	fair enough
Mar 27 09:02:35 <Bugpowder>	and makes 12% profit / month
Mar 27 09:02:37 <Bugpowder>	average
Mar 27 09:02:53 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 87.61
Mar 27 09:02:56 <gribble>	There are currently 1452.6593 bitcoins offered at or under 87.61 USD, worth 126503.501188 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 27 09:03:02 <tiberiusiv>	once again were back to the only profitable btc business are those that revolve around gambling
Mar 27 09:03:29 <tiberiusiv>	nobody has a none gambling business doing any decent $
Mar 27 09:03:34 <Bugpowder>	yep
Mar 27 09:03:44 <Bugpowder>	its a nascent market
Mar 27 09:03:50 <jurov>	tiberiusiv ,BitVPS was quite profitable, too.
Mar 27 09:03:57 <Bugpowder>	yes
Mar 27 09:04:05 <Bugpowder>	it was valued pretty fairly too
Mar 27 09:04:06 <tiberiusiv>	sure selling VPNS to criminals
Mar 27 09:04:09 <jurov>	but its owner suddenly got an idea it's better to get employed
Mar 27 09:04:10 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 27 09:04:10 <tiberiusiv>	no surprise there
Mar 27 09:04:10 <Chaang-Noi>	AM is not gambling :/
Mar 27 09:04:45 <jurov>	tiberiusiv but most of fiat is gambling, too
Mar 27 09:04:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Mar 27 09:04:56 <gribble>	There are currently 36656711 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9714666.78044 USD in total. | Data vintage: 119.6155 seconds
Mar 27 09:05:00 <jurov>	how much of money supply is ion forex? 90%
Mar 27 09:05:04 <tiberiusiv>	everything successful in the btc world is namely criminal
Mar 27 09:05:16 <tiberiusiv>	or crime related
Mar 27 09:05:27 <jurov>	forex is the same thing. just considered legal.
Mar 27 09:05:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 89.80
Mar 27 09:05:31 <gribble>	There are currently 4816.7931 bitcoins offered at or under 89.8 USD, worth 425118.737376 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Mar 27 09:05:35 <tiberiusiv>	all those exchanges are money launderers for SK dealers
Mar 27 09:05:52 <jurov>	oh tibby on limb again
Mar 27 09:05:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 85
Mar 27 09:06:00 <gribble>	There are currently 1053.2444 bitcoins demanded at or over 85.0 USD, worth 89853.9093844 USD in total. | Data vintage: 27.9878 seconds
Mar 27 09:06:01 <Bugpowder>	that's a pretty small %
Mar 27 09:06:23 <ThickAsThieves>	troll feeding time again?
Mar 27 09:06:23 <tiberiusiv>	jurov have you seen that silkroad has more users then the bitcointalk forums lol
Mar 27 09:06:26 <Bugpowder>	okcupid.com is now accepting bitcoins
Mar 27 09:06:34 <Bugpowder>	take that!
Mar 27 09:06:51 <tiberiusiv>	where do you think current BTC liquidity is coming from?
Mar 27 09:06:54 <ThickAsThieves>	on that news, btc falls to 50
Mar 27 09:07:07 <jurov>	tiberiusiv yes and? drug scene in your city has more users that a bank, too
Mar 27 09:07:17 <tiberiusiv>	SK sales volume is over 20% of mtgox monthly
Mar 27 09:07:27 <tiberiusiv>	monthly volume
Mar 27 09:07:35 <tiberiusiv>	as a comparison
Mar 27 09:07:43 <jurov>	in btcland it is just more visible
Mar 27 09:07:49 <Bugpowder>	that is not true
Mar 27 09:08:05 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: they are doing 5-10x what they did last year
Mar 27 09:08:24 <Bugpowder>	mtgox monthly is $100MM
Mar 27 09:08:33 <tiberiusiv>	on a good month.
Mar 27 09:08:38 <tiberiusiv>	on averages its alot less
Mar 27 09:09:06 <Bugpowder>	compare same month to same month
Mar 27 09:09:10 <tiberiusiv>	SK is one of the largest if not the largest source of BTC liquidity at the moment
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Mar 27 09:09:15 <deadweasel>	so all T options expire on Friday.  But their price is going to vary based on VWAP, which is going up every second I babble here....
Mar 27 09:09:54 <tiberiusiv>	more SK products = increased BTC buying/selling activity
Mar 27 09:10:22 <tiberiusiv>	theres no other business in btcland providing the needed liquidity like SK
Mar 27 09:10:27 <Bugpowder>	SD has much more action than SR
Mar 27 09:10:29 <Chaang-Noi>	VWAP link to please
Mar 27 09:11:01 <jurov>	Chaang-Noi:  http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/
Mar 27 09:11:05 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: SR has higher incentive for new users then sd
Mar 27 09:11:24 <jurov>	but SD has lot lower learning curve
Mar 27 09:11:27 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks jurov
Mar 27 09:11:28 <jurov>	not hassle with tor
Mar 27 09:11:44 <jurov>	and it's INSTANT
Mar 27 09:11:48 <tiberiusiv>	SD also declines with an increasing BTC price
Mar 27 09:12:01 <tiberiusiv>	hence the play volumes tanking the last 2-3 weeks
Mar 27 09:12:06 <Chaang-Noi>	they use the 24 hour?
Mar 27 09:12:06 <jurov>	^ another myth yet to be proved
Mar 27 09:12:15 <jurov>	Chaang-Noi: yes MPOE uses that one
Mar 27 09:12:19 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks
Mar 27 09:13:12 <tiberiusiv>	SR will probably contain over 100mil of actual product this year at any given time
Mar 27 09:13:28 <tiberiusiv>	making it the most valuable business in BTCland
Mar 27 09:13:35 <jurov>	okay, you made the sales pitch. so what are we to do with SR?
Mar 27 09:13:46 <tiberiusiv>	buy shares if they ever list
Mar 27 09:13:54 <tiberiusiv>	which they wont
Mar 27 09:14:00 <tiberiusiv>	because nobody sells a profitable business.
Mar 27 09:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:14:50 <jurov>	phew. someone steals their wallet and they'll clamor to list quickly
Mar 27 09:15:09 <jurov>	as happened to many enterprises already
Mar 27 09:15:17 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoins largest client base will be money launderers in the future
Mar 27 09:15:34 <tiberiusiv>	since it offers a fantastic way of doing it
Mar 27 09:15:35 <jurov>	tiberiusiv but that has nothing to do with bitcoin
Mar 27 09:15:35 <Namworld>	tiberiusiv: what? People often sell a portion of profitable businesses
Mar 27 09:15:51 <jurov>	if paypal was anonymous, it would be used instead
Mar 27 09:16:04 <tiberiusiv>	well its not so much as being anonymous
Mar 27 09:16:13 <tiberiusiv>	its being able to convert cash into clean money
Mar 27 09:16:19 <Namworld>	Wether because they need growth capital, are retiring or simply to reduce market exposure/risk.
Mar 27 09:16:21 <tiberiusiv>	for low losses
Mar 27 09:16:24 <jurov>	or popular detergent will be used. whatever is at hand
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Mar 27 09:16:52 <tiberiusiv>	for example, bitinstant most likely doesnt even realize how much $ they are laundering
Mar 27 09:17:07 <tiberiusiv>	unknowingly
Mar 27 09:17:28 <deadweasel>	same with the banks
Mar 27 09:17:54 <tiberiusiv>	banks have reporting requirements ie 10k+
Mar 27 09:18:09 <tiberiusiv>	bitinstant in some of those US ghettoes you can have runners going with $500 day and night
Mar 27 09:18:09 <deadweasel>	doesn't matter if it 'seems legit'.
Mar 27 09:18:17 <tiberiusiv>	then withdraw at exchanges in cheque format
Mar 27 09:18:23 <tiberiusiv>	or fastcash4bitcoins type services
Mar 27 09:19:07 <deadweasel>	so what's your point, tiberiusiv?
Mar 27 09:19:26 <tiberiusiv>	the criminal element will ensure the longterm survival of bitcoin.
Mar 27 09:19:34 <Chaang-Noi>	yes
Mar 27 09:19:37 <tiberiusiv>	it wont be any big time fiat firm
Mar 27 09:19:41 <Chaang-Noi>	that is why i bought in
Mar 27 09:19:48 <ThickAsThieves>	ugh I need to get rid of my day job
Mar 27 09:19:58 <tiberiusiv>	theres just 0 incentive for normal retailers for obvious reasons ive discussed to adopt btc
Mar 27 09:20:03 <Chaang-Noi>	once the mob learns about btc we will go to $100,000 tc
Mar 27 09:20:05 <Chaang-Noi>	btc
Mar 27 09:20:13 <tiberiusiv>	mexican drug cartels
Mar 27 09:20:18 <deadweasel>	yeah, i can agree with you there --  going off the Internets history, it follows.
Mar 27 09:20:20 <Chaang-Noi>	i quit a year ago...
Mar 27 09:20:26 <deadweasel>	the mob knows
Mar 27 09:20:32 <ThickAsThieves>	my problem is i own the business
Mar 27 09:20:32 <deadweasel>	cartel knows
Mar 27 09:20:39 <deadweasel>	ThickAsThieves: Sell it for BTC!
Mar 27 09:20:40 <Chaang-Noi>	sell it for btc
Mar 27 09:20:41 <ThickAsThieves>	so i need to find ways to unload clients
Mar 27 09:20:43 <jurov>	tiberiusiv i agree too. but you aren't telling normal retailers what to do
Mar 27 09:20:58 <tiberiusiv>	deadweasel: once the cartels realize the laundering potential the liquidity in BTCland will skyrocket
Mar 27 09:20:59 <ThickAsThieves>	well these people know me, i have to make sure they are treated ok
Mar 27 09:21:00 <jurov>	if there's money, retailers will come
Mar 27 09:21:10 <tiberiusiv>	exchangers will continue to be the biggest cashcows
Mar 27 09:21:18 <ThickAsThieves>	its like 60 hosted websites, plus incidental updates
Mar 27 09:21:32 <ThickAsThieves>	then a bunch of graphic design work and print brokering
Mar 27 09:21:33 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: retailers have 0 incentive to adopt because the customer base is none existant
Mar 27 09:21:38 <deadweasel>	sell it to Namworld
Mar 27 09:21:39 <tiberiusiv>	nobody earns BTC incomes except a tiny group
Mar 27 09:21:46 <tiberiusiv>	thats NOT going to change in the future
Mar 27 09:21:54 <jurov>	you contradict yourself
Mar 27 09:22:00 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav lol you on meth?
Mar 27 09:22:14 <deadweasel>	lol
Mar 27 09:22:15 <ThickAsThieves>	namworld obv is busy
Mar 27 09:22:17 <jurov>	if "the cartels" are using it, then it's clearly more than a small group
Mar 27 09:22:36 <tiberiusiv>	cartels wont use it in large scale but its an excellent mechanism for their runners to utilize
Mar 27 09:22:52 <Namworld>	What? I'm not too busy for that.
Mar 27 09:22:56 <tiberiusiv>	especially with shrems operation turning every US walmart into a money center
Mar 27 09:22:57 <jurov>	and it's usefult to them to use bitcoins on all levels down to the street
Mar 27 09:23:01 <jurov>	hence mass adoption
Mar 27 09:23:02 <Namworld>	shared hosting?
Mar 27 09:23:08 <Chaang-Noi>	when btc reaches $10,000 im pretty srue im going to by my own cartel
Mar 27 09:23:09 <ThickAsThieves>	and webmastering
Mar 27 09:23:10 <jurov>	hence mass market
Mar 27 09:23:20 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: unfortunately the mexicans only prefer USD paper bills
Mar 27 09:23:25 <Namworld>	I can do that, but what kind of rates are they used to?
Mar 27 09:23:31 <tiberiusiv>	its a cultural thing with them
Mar 27 09:23:31 <Namworld>	Actually, PM me.
Mar 27 09:23:56 <tiberiusiv>	they like hoarding dollar bills
Mar 27 09:24:16 <jurov>	tiberiusiv if it will be useful for them avoid hassle of exchanging the bills to bitcoins, they'll drop their customs quickly
Mar 27 09:24:29 <deadweasel>	^^^^
Mar 27 09:24:44 <tiberiusiv>	well the way it will work is the runners will deposit all over those walmarts
Mar 27 09:24:51 <splnkr>	ironic, isn't it…Mexicans want USD while a bunch of Americans prefer BTC
Mar 27 09:25:02 <deadweasel>	profit first, they get engineers to build half mile tunnels underneath the border, they will force Nerds to handle their BTC
Mar 27 09:25:04 <tiberiusiv>	collect bankdrafts, and wires
Mar 27 09:25:17 <jurov>	then ID requirement will come quickly
Mar 27 09:25:23 <jurov>	shoulkd that happen
Mar 27 09:25:29 <tiberiusiv>	IDs can be printed for under $5
Mar 27 09:25:41 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: it already occurs.
Mar 27 09:25:56 <tiberiusiv>	the US is the largest market for SK
Mar 27 09:26:09 <jurov>	anyway, all the runners, that's a mass market already
Mar 27 09:26:19 <tiberiusiv>	tahts why shrem placed all those strange requirements on his website
Mar 27 09:26:23 <tiberiusiv>	asking for birthdates lol
Mar 27 09:26:25 <jurov>	and for them it's better to buy things directly for btc
Mar 27 09:26:36 <tiberiusiv>	probably sat their confused why so many 500 transfers were popping up
Mar 27 09:26:42 <jurov>	than to go to walmart and risk doxing and being catched on camera
Mar 27 09:26:54 <tiberiusiv>	lol walmart cams?
Mar 27 09:27:00 <tiberiusiv>	its like 50x50 resolution
Mar 27 09:27:07 <tiberiusiv>	with footage erased after a few days
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Mar 27 09:27:52 <jurov>	well, don't tell this will stay so any extended period
Mar 27 09:27:56 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: my point was if the bitcoin crowd thinks the criminal element will go away they are dreaming, the crime will be the *only* thing keeping bitcoin liquid
Mar 27 09:28:21 <jurov>	no your point seems to be "retailers wont evar"
Mar 27 09:28:25 <tiberiusiv>	because the rest of the business's are not viable as we have seen
Mar 27 09:28:43 <jurov>	and i say, okay, if criminal element adopts it on mass scale, retilers will follow"
Mar 27 09:28:49 <tiberiusiv>	given the choice of spending fiat or bitcoin
Mar 27 09:28:54 <tiberiusiv>	people will always spend fiat
Mar 27 09:29:06 <tiberiusiv>	since it loses value faster and 2 is safer to spend due to chargeback
Mar 27 09:29:45 <Bugpowder>	false
Mar 27 09:30:02 <tiberiusiv>	go try getting a BTC refund from a retailer
Mar 27 09:30:03 <jurov>	"people will always spend fiat" Plainly not true. Not always at least.
Mar 27 09:30:06 <Bugpowder>	people will spend btc now because its an easy way to cashout
Mar 27 09:30:08 <tiberiusiv>	youll get back 10% of what you sent
Mar 27 09:30:53 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: not enough people earn real incomes in BTC for any meanigful retail operations to succeed
Mar 27 09:31:13 <jurov>	your crime elements do
Mar 27 09:31:32 <jurov>	and you yourself said they supposedly have problems to exchange it back
Mar 27 09:31:32 <splnkr>	it's good to be mindful of the risk of BTC going poof due to external factors, but I'm not that worried…woudln't it take a concerted, coordinated global effort to bring it all down permanently? I'm not talking 51% attack here
Mar 27 09:31:34 <tiberiusiv>	biggest money makers will be all the business's that cater to the criminal elements
Mar 27 09:31:40 <tiberiusiv>	exchanges etc.
Mar 27 09:31:45 <jurov>	so these WILL use retail if available
Mar 27 09:31:46 <tiberiusiv>	jurov they do
Mar 27 09:31:47 <thestrin1puller>	;;ticker
Mar 27 09:31:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.91001, Best ask: 86.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08998, Last trade: 87.00000, 24 hour volume: 74748.36316424, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.81460
Mar 27 09:31:59 <jurov>	tiberiusiv:  simple logic, no?
Mar 27 09:32:01 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 27 09:32:02 <gribble>	80.79
Mar 27 09:32:05 <splnkr>	and the world can't even properly discuss climate change; i don't see that they could execute a destruction of the bitcoin network
Mar 27 09:32:13 <Bugpowder>	anyone had trouble getting over 1 wire a day from fast cash.  total >$10l
Mar 27 09:32:17 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: well they wont be buying i love bitcoin shirts thats for sure lol
Mar 27 09:32:19 <Bugpowder>	>$10k
Mar 27 09:32:42 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: what do you see as the right investment / speculative play in the btc space right now?
Mar 27 09:32:47 <thestrin1puller>	;;calc (80.79 - 75) / 80.79
Mar 27 09:32:48 <gribble>	0.0716672855551
Mar 27 09:32:56 <thestrin1puller>	woot!
Mar 27 09:32:57 <Bugpowder>	I am hearing a lot about what ISN'T good.  What IS good.
Mar 27 09:33:07 <jurov>	don't lol. they can indeed launder some of the bitcoins disguised as t-shirt operation
Mar 27 09:33:15 <splnkr>	the best investment strategy is to tell people in IRC the opposite of what you believe to be true
Mar 27 09:33:19 <splnkr>	LOL
Mar 27 09:33:25 <MJR_>	Bugpowder: it is way too hard to come up with something creative, let's just detract from the good that is going on
Mar 27 09:33:36 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: the only viable business's are properly marketed and scripted casinos or services for money exchanging/laundering
Mar 27 09:33:49 <tiberiusiv>	the rest of them are a joke
Mar 27 09:34:10 <tiberiusiv>	you should buy shares in exchangers
Mar 27 09:34:10 <MJR_>	BitPay processed 2 Million dollars worth of transactions for VENDORS
Mar 27 09:34:20 <tiberiusiv>	lol 2mil in 30 days?
Mar 27 09:34:25 <tiberiusiv>	wow big shots.
Mar 27 09:34:31 <MJR_>	just saying they are growing
Mar 27 09:34:38 <MJR_>	vendors are slowly starting to accept them
Mar 27 09:34:45 <tiberiusiv>	theyve barely grown
Mar 27 09:34:52 <tiberiusiv>	they did 1mil what last summer?
Mar 27 09:34:56 <thestrin1puller>	Bugpowda your bet paid off
Mar 27 09:34:57 <MJR_>	so that would be double
Mar 27 09:35:00 <tiberiusiv>	you realize they have like 4000 vendors
Mar 27 09:35:05 <thestrin1puller>	thanks for snatching those options fo may
Mar 27 09:35:05 <tiberiusiv>	and did ONLY 2mil
Mar 27 09:35:08 <MJR_>	yes...and doubled the payments processed
Mar 27 09:35:24 <MJR_>	meaning more merchants are starting to get into this space
Mar 27 09:35:26 <MJR_>	that is just one metric
Mar 27 09:35:26 <jurov>	it's clearly more than nothing
Mar 27 09:35:31 <tiberiusiv>	its not double the payments
Mar 27 09:35:35 <tiberiusiv>	only in US dollar terms
Mar 27 09:35:44 <MJR_>	um...
Mar 27 09:35:45 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is also up almost 10x since last summer
Mar 27 09:35:52 <MJR_>	do you not know how they work?
Mar 27 09:35:59 <MJR_>	you set your price IN DOLLARS
Mar 27 09:36:05 <MJR_>	they deal with conversion
Mar 27 09:36:12 <tiberiusiv>	the point is bitpay is a joke
Mar 27 09:36:18 <thestrin1puller>	lol
Mar 27 09:36:22 <tiberiusiv>	2mil is what paypal does in 2 minutes
Mar 27 09:36:26 <MJR_>	your company is doing so much better in this space
Mar 27 09:36:29 <tiberiusiv>	nevermind from 4000 vendors
Mar 27 09:36:36 <thestrin1puller>	bfl is a joke
Mar 27 09:36:37 <MJR_>	what was its name again?
Mar 27 09:36:39 <Bugpowder>	apples and oranges dude
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Mar 27 09:36:48 <tiberiusiv>	just shows you how pathetic the BTC retail space really is
Mar 27 09:36:53 <tiberiusiv>	when 4000 vendors generate 2mil
Mar 27 09:37:02 <Bugpowder>	The BTC retail space is < 6 months old
Mar 27 09:37:03 <MJR_>	oh thats right, you haven't done one thing so far that is actually valuable to anyone in this community
Mar 27 09:37:16 <tiberiusiv>	well im not a communist MJR
Mar 27 09:37:20 <MJR_>	so bitpay: 2 million tiberiusiv: 0
Mar 27 09:37:21 <tiberiusiv>	i only do things valuable to myself
Mar 27 09:37:25 <Bugpowder>	I bet bitpay growth is faster than paypal
Mar 27 09:37:31 <tiberiusiv>	bitpays sales all came from BFL
Mar 27 09:37:34 <tiberiusiv>	and ASIC
Mar 27 09:37:37 <Chaang-Noi>	no doubt bitpay is faster
Mar 27 09:37:42 <jurov>	tibby has coinbr account.. so it's valuable for me :)
Mar 27 09:37:45 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav oh lol
Mar 27 09:37:51 <MJR_>	how do i constantly get sucked in to these epic troll fests
Mar 27 09:37:57 <tiberiusiv>	exclude those scams and they have barely anything
Mar 27 09:38:01 <MJR_>	got to learn to avoid them
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Mar 27 09:38:04 <deadweasel>	i was wondering that too MJR_
Mar 27 09:38:12 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav is a funny troll
Mar 27 09:38:13 <thestrin1puller>	lol
Mar 27 09:38:14 <MJR_>	has tiberiusiv done anything
Mar 27 09:38:15 <tiberiusiv>	exclude bitpays sales of ASICs
Mar 27 09:38:27 <tiberiusiv>	and its gone nowhere
Mar 27 09:38:30 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav is from nigeria and only has .35 btc:/
Mar 27 09:38:31 <MJR_>	fucking armchair quarterback
Mar 27 09:38:39 <tiberiusiv>	lol mjr
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Mar 27 09:38:53 <tiberiusiv>	MJR come on you make yourself look like a fool
Mar 27 09:38:57 <MJR_>	so you start a payment processer, a gambling site, an exchange...do something
Mar 27 09:39:01 <tiberiusiv>	bragging over 2mil in sales in 30days from 4000 vendors.
Mar 27 09:39:11 <MJR_>	which is a new high in this space
Mar 27 09:39:18 <Chaang-Noi>	mr tiberslav too busy tolling and cashing in govt welfare checks to do anything productinv
Mar 27 09:39:19 <tiberiusiv>	3rd world cities have higher sale volumes
Mar 27 09:39:20 <MJR_>	850 million is tiny compared to forex trading
Mar 27 09:39:34 <MJR_>	apparently you don't undeerstand emerging markets AT ALL
Mar 27 09:39:51 <tiberiusiv>	whats so emerging about 4000 vendors
Mar 27 09:39:53 <tiberiusiv>	only doing 2mil?
Mar 27 09:39:57 <MJR_>	tiberiusiv is the guy saying "why would anyone ever need internet on their phone"
Mar 27 09:40:04 <tiberiusiv>	its not 50 vendors they have
Mar 27 09:40:05 <tiberiusiv>	its 4000.
Mar 27 09:40:17 <MJR_>	"the personal computer is not really necessary"
Mar 27 09:40:19 <Diablo-D3>	850 million dollars?
Mar 27 09:40:23 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, care do a bet on bitbet?
Mar 27 09:40:30 <Diablo-D3>	that'd be enough to fix the united states =/
Mar 27 09:40:41 <jurov>	like "bitpay will reach 100mil this year"
Mar 27 09:40:43 <tiberiusiv>	lol diablo
Mar 27 09:40:52 <tiberiusiv>	no jurov
Mar 27 09:41:02 <jurov>	why not?
Mar 27 09:41:34 <tiberiusiv>	i cant control the main variable, ie that gypsy performing some type of black magic with the price/stock
Mar 27 09:41:46 <MJR_>	i can't...
Mar 27 09:41:52 <jurov>	what has bitpay to do with gpsy???
Mar 27 09:42:01 <tiberiusiv>	oh bitpay
Mar 27 09:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.586 = 2.93 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.585 = 5.265 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:42:13 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker h HIM
Mar 27 09:42:14 <tiberiusiv>	jurov what ammount
Mar 27 09:42:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.65000000 / 1.772 / 1.85000000 (25 shares, 44.30000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.78286455 / 2.00000000 (189 shares, 336.96140034 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 2.09569993 / 18.00000000 (657 shares, 1376.87485269 BTC)
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Mar 27 09:42:25 <thestrin1puller>	wow
Mar 27 09:42:37 <jurov>	say yourself...whatever amount it won't cross
Mar 27 09:42:46 <tiberiusiv>	100mil you said
Mar 27 09:42:58 <kakobrekla>	btw is there a european bitpay?
Mar 27 09:44:14 <tiberiusiv>	bitpay loves to advertise its 0.99% fee, yet it doesnt mention that theres also a forex cost associated
Mar 27 09:44:33 <tiberiusiv>	i mean they are plugged into mtgox right?
Mar 27 09:44:40 <jurov>	there are some eu partners: https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-integration-partners
Mar 27 09:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.85 = 3.7 BTC [+]
Mar 27 09:45:18 <tiberiusiv>	the BTC user pays an added exchange cost as well
Mar 27 09:45:35 <tiberiusiv>	so the total price ends up being higher then just paying with fiat, and no refund/recourse capability
Mar 27 09:45:49 <tiberiusiv>	hence why 4000 vendors only generate 2mil of sales
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Mar 27 09:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.585 = 2.925 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:46:07 <MJR_>	you know those vendors dont ONLY sell in bitcoins right?
Mar 27 09:46:18 <tiberiusiv>	duh.
Mar 27 09:46:27 <MJR_>	hence emerging markets
Mar 27 09:46:28 <Namworld>	tiberius... there's more than a 0.99% fee for those converting to USD
Mar 27 09:46:31 <tiberiusiv>	thats why everyone chooses fiat.
Mar 27 09:46:36 <Namworld>	It's 3% AFAIK, I think.
Mar 27 09:46:40 <Namworld>	And disclosed
Mar 27 09:46:42 <MJR_>	as more people switch to this alternate economy
Mar 27 09:46:45 <MJR_>	they will grow
Mar 27 09:46:46 <tiberiusiv>	its a fuckload thats what it is
Mar 27 09:46:47 <Namworld>	0.99% is for those keeping BTC
Mar 27 09:46:58 <MJR_>	it seems like you have no concept of future valuation
Mar 27 09:47:04 <Bugpowder>	credit cards are 2.9%
Mar 27 09:47:04 <MJR_>	first mover value
Mar 27 09:47:08 <MJR_>	value of market share
Mar 27 09:47:09 <tiberiusiv>	if a bitpay vendor accepts BTC
Mar 27 09:47:11 <MJR_>	look at gox
Mar 27 09:47:13 <MJR_>	they suck
Mar 27 09:47:15 <tiberiusiv>	and you want a refund lets say after a week
Mar 27 09:47:16 <Bugpowder>	the merchants disguise it though
Mar 27 09:47:18 <MJR_>	raking in money cuz there first
Mar 27 09:47:20 <tiberiusiv>	and the btc price is up 20%
Mar 27 09:47:23 <tiberiusiv>	you are taking a 20% loss.
Mar 27 09:47:35 <Namworld>	no, you pay back in USD
Mar 27 09:47:38 <Chaang-Noi>	wall at 87 is lasting...
Mar 27 09:47:44 <tiberiusiv>	yes namworld
Mar 27 09:47:45 <Chaang-Noi>	need usa to wake up?
Mar 27 09:47:48 <tiberiusiv>	meaning you LOST in BTC terms
Mar 27 09:47:49 <Namworld>	which is what people paid you... all vendors pay back in USD, almost
Mar 27 09:47:58 <tiberiusiv>	namworld exactly
Mar 27 09:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.585 = 1.17 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:48:10 <tiberiusiv>	another disincentive to pay with BTC through bitpay
Mar 27 09:48:24 <deadweasel>	not if they want to cash out
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Mar 27 09:48:35 <tiberiusiv>	i run into the possibility of recieving less BTC back in the event of a dispute
Mar 27 09:48:40 <Namworld>	it's not an issue only with bitpay, it's an issue with all vendors
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Mar 27 09:48:58 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 27 09:48:58 <Namworld>	beside, works the other way around. If a refund is request after a price drop, more BTC
Mar 27 09:48:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00060001 / 0.00062529 / 0.00064816 (173321 shares, 108.38 BTC), 7D: 0.00060001 / 0.00068467 / 0.00077505 (2085337 shares, 1,427.77 BTC), 30D: 0.00060001 / 0.00073814 / 0.00078628 (17972130 shares, 13,266.12 BTC)
Mar 27 09:49:01 <MJR_>	ah thats better
Mar 27 09:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.57 = 3.42 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:49:03 <tiberiusiv>	i mean what a fantastic service, not only do i pay an elevated fee i also have slim to none chance to ever get refunded.
Mar 27 09:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.567 = 1.134 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:49:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.567 = 1.701 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:49:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.565 = 1.695 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:49:09 *	unbalanced__ is now known as unbalanced
Mar 27 09:49:21 <unbalanced>	Bugpowder, congrats on the overnight trade. Well played.
Mar 27 09:49:26 <MJR_>	i can't do this anymore...too distracting and fun getting trolled, but have work to do thank god for ignore
Mar 27 09:49:51 <tiberiusiv>	MJR the IQ of a bag of hair
Mar 27 09:50:01 <Bugpowder>	unbalanced: thanks! not a trade till I close the position though :-0  I'll let the vwap get at least $5 higher first.
Mar 27 09:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.565 = 1.695 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.554 = 4.432 BTC [-]
Mar 27 09:50:07 <tiberiusiv>	bitpays pathetic results are an exact reflection of what ive said all along
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Mar 27 09:50:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00061253 = 1.2251 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 09:51:04 <unbalanced>	Oh I thought you closed it out. re: something you said yesterday, I'd pay to have you run my funds just from what I've seen here in a week
Mar 27 09:51:06 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: would be interesting to see bitpay results ex Asic payments
Mar 27 09:51:44 <tiberiusiv>	BFL labs was most likely 60% of bitpay
Mar 27 09:52:08 <unbalanced>	I want a Tesla too so Ifig I have to learn from someone who's doing it.
Mar 27 09:52:12 <deadweasel>	so this price boom is why the c750s when to .24999?
Mar 27 09:52:23 <Bugpowder>	The bot is sold out
Mar 27 09:52:40 <Bugpowder>	if you want to buy my C750s at .24999 though, you are welcome to them
Mar 27 09:52:51 <deadweasel>	i'm just looking on coinbr.
Mar 27 09:52:59 <thestrin1puller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 27 09:52:59 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 10 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <smickles> well, if you answer, please hilight me so i can find it easier :)
Mar 27 09:53:01 <Bugpowder>	unbalanced: Unfortunately I don't think running a fund is actually legal
Mar 27 09:53:09 <Bugpowder>	unless registered etc.
Mar 27 09:53:10 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder, I don't know any better, just trying to wrap my pea brain around it before I started trading options
Mar 27 09:53:21 <Bugpowder>	so I'd like to stay legal.
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Mar 27 09:53:44 <Bugpowder>	also, I have just been pretty lucky this month
Mar 27 09:54:02 <Bugpowder>	past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.
Mar 27 09:55:04 <deadweasel>	you think MPOE will bounce back to .00075 if it survives OIX trading this month?
Mar 27 09:55:29 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 27 09:55:35 <jurov>	yes
Mar 27 09:55:36 <tiberiusiv>	it trades at 1000x p/e
Mar 27 09:55:41 <thestrin1puller>	a bubble of unprecedented proportions vs a booming economy soon to be worth billions...
Mar 27 09:56:16 <Namworld>	bubble
Mar 27 09:56:27 <tiberiusiv>	deadweasel: your better off playing sdice then trading options
Mar 27 09:56:29 <Namworld>	well booming economy, yes, but not that fast...
Mar 27 09:56:43 <kakobrekla>	not that fast!!!
Mar 27 09:56:46 <kakobrekla>	cause nam said so!!
Mar 27 09:56:54 <kakobrekla>	heres a ticket bitcoin
Mar 27 09:56:56 <kakobrekla>	for speeding.
Mar 27 09:57:03 <jurov>	p/e isn't the right indicator here. it's considered low risk longer term investment which is rare for btc
Mar 27 09:57:06 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: you have zero experience in MPEx securities.  I wouldn't be so confident until you get a better sense of the way things work around here
Mar 27 09:57:11 <tiberiusiv>	thestrin1puller: what are you referring too? the bitcoin economy is not a closed system as the currency is fully convertible
Mar 27 09:57:36 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: so because of that someone should grossly overpay for it? great logic
Mar 27 09:57:39 <Bugpowder>	deadweasel: If MPOE bond holders avoid a loss this month, yes, S.MPOE will bounce.
Mar 27 09:58:13 <jurov>	tiberiusiv thing is only few loud folks think it's overvalued
Mar 27 09:58:17 <Namworld>	tiberiusiv is negative on just about 99% of things.
Mar 27 09:58:20 <deadweasel>	interesting, i didn't realize OIX was 'funded' by the MPOE.Bond.  learning is fun!
Mar 27 09:58:31 <deadweasel>	lol nam
Mar 27 09:58:57 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: its worth more then the romanian city its located in
Mar 27 09:59:22 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, do you really know better btc investment than s.mpoe? with consistent profit and known business model?
Mar 27 09:59:55 <tiberiusiv>	having a good business model does not justify paying ANY price for it
Mar 27 09:59:56 <jurov>	SR doesn't exist as an investment
Mar 27 10:00:07 <Bugpowder>	The MPOE bot volume has seen explosive growth over the past year
Mar 27 10:00:09 <tiberiusiv>	mpoe is grossly overvalued, and illiquid.
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Mar 27 10:00:22 <tiberiusiv>	if it was so great the gypsy wouldnt still be holding 90% of the shares
Mar 27 10:00:35 <Bugpowder>	I think its down to 85%
Mar 27 10:00:40 <Bugpowder>	or 80%
Mar 27 10:00:40 <jurov>	tiberiusiv that's not what i asked. is there anything better?
Mar 27 10:00:56 <tiberiusiv>	cavirtex is a much better buy
Mar 27 10:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.532 = 1.064 BTC [-]
Mar 27 10:01:08 <jurov>	hahahahaha cavirtex
Mar 27 10:01:10 <Bugpowder>	the fact is, there is a lot of hot money in the BTC investment space, and not a lot of options
Mar 27 10:01:15 <tiberiusiv>	not only do you get shares in a real corporation, the valuation is 15x less then mpoe
Mar 27 10:01:32 <tiberiusiv>	with transparency, located in a first world country with actual laws
Mar 27 10:01:33 <jurov>	but cavirtex is a fiat business
Mar 27 10:01:37 <MJR_>	Bugpowder: amen to that
Mar 27 10:01:46 <MJR_>	this is the time to start a bitcoin venture
Mar 27 10:01:50 <jurov>	they will inevitable get less btc-profitable
Mar 27 10:01:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.714994 = 3.575 BTC [+]
Mar 27 10:01:59 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: so will mpex.
Mar 27 10:02:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.714995 = 7.15 BTC [+]
Mar 27 10:02:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.715 = 14.3 BTC [+]
Mar 27 10:02:08 <MJR_>	i was wondering...how could package up a VXX for btc
Mar 27 10:02:28 <jurov>	mpex is as removed from fiat as possible.. together with sdice
Mar 27 10:02:50 <tiberiusiv>	sdice btc volume decreases in deflationary events
Mar 27 10:03:00 <deadweasel>	it's true, if there is no fiat, the is no legal precedent for a GLBSE type event
Mar 27 10:03:01 <tiberiusiv>	same with mpex
Mar 27 10:03:05 <tiberiusiv>	hence why both stocks are down
Mar 27 10:03:15 <deadweasel>	it's uncharted territory.
Mar 27 10:03:30 <jurov>	they are this "down" every now and then, that's not argument
Mar 27 10:03:55 <tiberiusiv>	jurov id much rather pay 3mil for cavirtex then 50mil for mpex
Mar 27 10:04:04 <tiberiusiv>	youve got to be braindead to even argue that
Mar 27 10:04:11 <jurov>	both numbers are completely virtual
Mar 27 10:04:24 <tiberiusiv>	mpex is run out of a slummy communist apartment
Mar 27 10:04:36 <jurov>	and so is coinbr
Mar 27 10:04:39 <tiberiusiv>	jurov no you get real shares with cavirtex.
Mar 27 10:04:44 <jurov>	withdraw while you can
Mar 27 10:04:54 <tiberiusiv>	in a grade A jurisdiction
Mar 27 10:05:07 <unbalanced>	Bugpowder: I assume you're in the US... you know better than I but if you're managing pure BTC trades and client accounts are funded in BTC and they can only w/d in BTC you might be okay.
Mar 27 10:05:09 <tiberiusiv>	vs romania where killing judges is the norm
Mar 27 10:05:41 <jurov>	hahahaha and in sloakia we don't even have general attorney elected for over a year
Mar 27 10:05:50 <unbalanced>	where "might" = risk, sure. If you have better info than I pls link so I can educate myself... no rush.
Mar 27 10:05:58 <jurov>	i say, withdraw the fuck from coinbr while you can
Mar 27 10:05:58 <kakobrekla>	yurop ftw
Mar 27 10:06:02 <unbalanced>	info re: licensing, not trade ideas
Mar 27 10:06:03 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: its all about valuation
Mar 27 10:06:13 <Chaang-Noi>	btc im bored, go up already
Mar 27 10:06:17 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: and mpex just doesnt have an attractive valuation
Mar 27 10:06:25 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi sell some to help it
Mar 27 10:06:34 <tiberiusiv>	im sure its a fantastic buy 90% lower then here
Mar 27 10:06:50 <jurov>	tiberiusiv , yes it was. a year ago
Mar 27 10:06:55 <Chaang-Noi>	kako hell no, not until well over $1000 and im willing to wait a few years:)
Mar 27 10:07:44 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 87
Mar 27 10:07:47 <gribble>	There are currently 808.85515 bitcoins offered at or under 87.0 USD, worth 70368.6225068 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 27 10:07:47 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: the other problem is, once smarter and more capitalized money enters, listing a BTC ETF for example on the NYSE with full options
Mar 27 10:07:53 <tiberiusiv>	will just blow out anything mpex can ever offer
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Mar 27 10:08:06 <tiberiusiv>	sending its volumes and price to nothing
Mar 27 10:08:08 <jurov>	okay so wait till then and stfu
Mar 27 10:08:19 <Chaang-Noi>	he wont stfu :(
Mar 27 10:08:27 <KRS-1>	lol
Mar 27 10:08:48 <jurov>	but they will have to get enough btc from these "crime elements" first. not that will be fun
Mar 27 10:09:00 <Chaang-Noi>	im a goat
Mar 27 10:09:02 <jurov>	or they will turn to mircea. that will be even moar fun
Mar 27 10:09:10 <tiberiusiv>	your arguement is mute. lets pay $50mil for a site being run out of the shittiest/ highest fraud rate region in Europe
Mar 27 10:09:13 <tiberiusiv>	great future there
Mar 27 10:09:21 <Bugpowder>	it could be moved
Mar 27 10:09:40 <Bugpowder>	the bottom line is that it is the most secure site with by far the highest volume
Mar 27 10:09:41 <tiberiusiv>	$50 mil buys half of romania
Mar 27 10:09:52 <jurov>	anyway it isn't for sale. it's like berkshire hathaway "nobody will pay these trillions"
Mar 27 10:09:57 <Bugpowder>	and has an owner that actaully knows what the fuck he is doing
Mar 27 10:09:58 <tiberiusiv>	volume you cant verify since theres 0 transparency
Mar 27 10:10:13 <Bugpowder>	unlike every other BTC startup I have seen
Mar 27 10:10:27 <jurov>	tiberiusiv i see some % of that volume and can vouch that it *is* there
Mar 27 10:10:46 <Bugpowder>	I see some % of it too
Mar 27 10:10:49 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: the thing is, he may have been smarter then the majority of bTC monkeys but you have to look into the future
Mar 27 10:10:56 <jurov>	how do you know the volume is on NYSE? on forex?
Mar 27 10:11:01 <tiberiusiv>	and any intelligent $$ will blow mpex out of the water
Mar 27 10:11:11 <Bugpowder>	I think he will partner
Mar 27 10:11:20 <tiberiusiv>	i doubt it
Mar 27 10:11:22 <jurov>	you obviously consider yourself intelligent, so do it
Mar 27 10:11:27 <jurov>	i;m waiting
Mar 27 10:11:30 <tiberiusiv>	when people here romania they tend to stay away
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Mar 27 10:11:41 <tiberiusiv>	+ the guy runs lowlevel porn
Mar 27 10:11:53 <tiberiusiv>	you just cant have that shit with serious players
Mar 27 10:11:58 <Chaang-Noi>	im a goat and im on a boat
Mar 27 10:12:16 <tiberiusiv>	in the business world, appearances matter.
Mar 27 10:12:17 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav the nigerian keeps quakin
Mar 27 10:12:40 <tiberiusiv>	they even told zuckerberg to put a fucking suit on when he showed up to board meetings in his hoodie
Mar 27 10:12:40 <jurov>	yes, fiat scammers have to maintain appearance
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Mar 27 10:12:58 <tiberiusiv>	vs what a romanian low level pornstar?
Mar 27 10:13:00 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 27 10:13:04 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav tiberslav we are going to change the world, we are the new masters
Mar 27 10:13:09 <Bugpowder>	coinlab and coinbase haven't figured out the suit part yet either
Mar 27 10:13:10 <kakobrekla>	but zuck is a pussy
Mar 27 10:13:19 <Bugpowder>	and I think mircera wears a suit
Mar 27 10:13:21 <Bugpowder>	usually
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Mar 27 10:13:26 <tiberiusiv>	yea from walmart
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Mar 27 10:13:32 <Bugpowder>	http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images.zoso.ro/img/2010/01/mircea_popescu.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.zoso.ro/mircea-popescu-este-cel-mai-influent-si-mai-destept-om-din-lume-si-din-romania/&h=420&w=322&sz=43&tbnid=Ax15b4F7WV-jVM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=69&zoom=1&usg=__AQxh65wDxZWtX1qGa-I250HzGvo=&docid=ooulPqIKMouWNM&sa=X&ei=hf5SUfaaK7PH4APj4oCABA&ved=0CE0Q9QEwAw&dur=238
Mar 27 10:13:45 <kakobrekla>	he wears a suit on a fuckin camel
Mar 27 10:13:49 <kakobrekla>	...
Mar 27 10:13:50 <Bugpowder>	should probably shave though
Mar 27 10:13:51 <tiberiusiv>	he even has the crazy eyes
Mar 27 10:14:12 <jurov>	tiberiusiv: have you seen him burning qu'ran?
Mar 27 10:14:21 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 27 10:14:23 <tiberiusiv>	but im glad he did it
Mar 27 10:14:28 <Chaang-Noi>	lol really jurov?
Mar 27 10:14:30 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Mar 27 10:14:41 <tiberiusiv>	lol the asian gets offended
Mar 27 10:14:50 <Bugpowder>	yeah that vid could be problematic to wall street
Mar 27 10:14:59 <tiberiusiv>	not really
Mar 27 10:15:00 <Chaang-Noi>	offened? just increased the odds his ass gets killed
Mar 27 10:15:18 <tiberiusiv>	being in romania is problematic to wallstreet
Mar 27 10:15:22 <jurov>	http://www.popscreen.com/v/6nD6v/Barbequran-starring-Mircea-Popescu
Mar 27 10:15:23 <tiberiusiv>	the place has no laws
Mar 27 10:15:34 <Chaang-Noi>	btc ahs no laws
Mar 27 10:15:49 <Chaang-Noi>	need to install flash :/
Mar 27 10:16:00 <jurov>	seems it gor removed :/
Mar 27 10:16:03 <tiberiusiv>	romanian dispute resolution revolves around the butterfly knife
Mar 27 10:16:04 <jurov>	*got
Mar 27 10:16:11 <tiberiusiv>	they got so obsession over there with knife fights
Mar 27 10:16:22 <kakobrekla>	funny so much to say over romania when usa is full of btc failed biz and scams and jesuses on meth
Mar 27 10:16:36 <jurov>	yes, mp had article abuot famous knife fight too
Mar 27 10:16:37 <hhh>	I liked MP training class for gypsies.
Mar 27 10:16:42 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav tiberslav, he is a jesus on meth, but from nigeria
Mar 27 10:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.475 BTC [+]
Mar 27 10:17:15 <jurov>	but anyway wallstreet has its own problems and it's well possible it won't survive move to deflationary currency
Mar 27 10:17:21 <tiberiusiv>	jurov that video says its private
Mar 27 10:18:11 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 87
Mar 27 10:18:14 <gribble>	There are currently 997.4039 bitcoins offered at or under 87.0 USD, worth 86755.5680726 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds
Mar 27 10:18:25 <Chaang-Noi>	]growiong :/ wake up america!
Mar 27 10:18:26 <jurov>	can't find. ask him to see it
Mar 27 10:18:36 <deadweasel>	we're awake!
Mar 27 10:18:36 <tiberiusiv>	kako: most of the US failed business's are done in the public forum
Mar 27 10:18:51 <tiberiusiv>	in romania its in someones basement and usually involves bodies being put into a trunk
Mar 27 10:19:03 <kakobrekla>	yet it works better
Mar 27 10:19:10 <tiberiusiv>	in some ways it does
Mar 27 10:19:58 <jurov>	in slovakia they learned and are all white-collar now.. would prefer romanian ways sometimes
Mar 27 10:20:25 <hhh>	Only if you are not the one in the trunk.
Mar 27 10:20:33 <tiberiusiv>	i was shocked romania was allowed into the EU
Mar 27 10:20:40 <Bugpowder>	was it?
Mar 27 10:20:51 <Bugpowder>	I thought that was still delayed
Mar 27 10:20:58 <tiberiusiv>	its partially there
Mar 27 10:21:03 <kakobrekla>	nah, now eu wants in romania
Mar 27 10:21:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 92
Mar 27 10:21:07 <gribble>	There are currently 9357.0707 bitcoins offered at or under 92.0 USD, worth 837704.987653 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
Mar 27 10:21:11 <jurov>	no, only schengen zone (free movement) was delayed
Mar 27 10:21:23 <tiberiusiv>	well youd have massive emmigration
Mar 27 10:21:24 <Bugpowder>	ah
Mar 27 10:21:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i got a box of some of the finest cubans in the world, and no lighter....
Mar 27 10:21:30 <kakobrekla>	ecb knows where the btc is
Mar 27 10:21:38 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 27 10:21:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 82
Mar 27 10:21:41 <gribble>	There are currently 6359.1076 bitcoins demanded at or over 82.0 USD, worth 536315.344566 USD in total. | Data vintage: 34.9539 seconds
Mar 27 10:21:52 <tiberiusiv>	crime rates would explode if they lifed romanian travel restrictions
Mar 27 10:21:57 <tiberiusiv>	lifted*
Mar 27 10:22:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Mar 27 10:22:10 <gribble>	There are currently 36661582 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9860755.86811 USD in total. | Data vintage: 64.1093 seconds
Mar 27 10:22:12 <tiberiusiv>	its bad enough they figured out where london was
Mar 27 10:22:16 <jurov>	nah. they said the same about slovakian gypsies
Mar 27 10:22:20 <ThickAsThieves>	10mil soon
Mar 27 10:22:24 <jurov>	and many indeed went to UK
Mar 27 10:22:36 <tiberiusiv>	slovakian gypsies get lost leaving the house
Mar 27 10:22:38 <jurov>	but mostly they found a work there and are happy
Mar 27 10:22:47 <jurov>	no significant crime there
Mar 27 10:22:49 <tiberiusiv>	lol doing what picking pockets?
Mar 27 10:23:02 <ThickAsThieves>	if rally continues tomorrow...
Mar 27 10:23:04 <tiberiusiv>	gypsys dont have the word work in their vocabulary
Mar 27 10:23:08 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 100
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Mar 27 10:23:09 <hhh>	You don't know romanian gypsies.
Mar 27 10:23:10 <gribble>	There are currently 22997.679 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2160753.28198 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds
Mar 27 10:23:13 <jurov>	no janitorial, babysitting, etc.
Mar 27 10:23:38 <jurov>	tiberiusiv don't be racist. they will work given the opprotunity
Mar 27 10:23:52 <tiberiusiv>	babysitting ie babysnatching
Mar 27 10:24:05 <jurov>	but in eastern yourp there's longtime econ crunch, few opportunities
Mar 27 10:24:28 <tiberiusiv>	jurov the unemployment rates are lower in the east then half of the west
Mar 27 10:24:48 <tiberiusiv>	a gypsy was taught to be a thief from generations of thieves
Mar 27 10:24:58 <tiberiusiv>	its in their blood to steal
Mar 27 10:24:59 <jurov>	patently false. when there was less than 12% unemployment here politicians celebrated
Mar 27 10:25:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 250 @ 0.004 = 1 BTC [+]
Mar 27 10:25:06 <jurov>	and it's over 20% atm
Mar 27 10:25:12 <tiberiusiv>	in spain its like 30
Mar 27 10:25:12 <Chaang-Noi>	wife had a ligher, thank fuck lol
Mar 27 10:25:29 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: the problem with unemployment rates in eastern europe is alot of people are working in the black market
Mar 27 10:25:35 <tiberiusiv>	and claiming to be unemployed at the same time
Mar 27 10:25:48 <tiberiusiv>	hence why its common to see high end cars all over the place
Mar 27 10:25:57 <hhh>	 Romania Unemployment rate: 4.3%
Mar 27 10:26:20 <Chaang-Noi>	usa is 8 or 9 percent?
Mar 27 10:26:27 <jurov>	and that's impossible in spain?
Mar 27 10:26:28 <hhh>	You are welcome to come here if you are jobless.
Mar 27 10:26:29 <tiberiusiv>	hhh: id disregard any number from the romanian government
Mar 27 10:26:50 <kakobrekla>	yeah usa is abou 9% employed
Mar 27 10:26:55 <tiberiusiv>	hhh: well his point was gypsys will work given the opportunity
Mar 27 10:27:01 <tiberiusiv>	i said that was false
Mar 27 10:27:18 <hhh>	http://www.google.ca/publicdata/explore?ds=z8o7pt6rd5uqa6_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=country:ro&fdim_y=seasonality:sa&dl=en&hl=en&q=romania%20unemployment
Mar 27 10:27:20 <jurov>	before 2009 there was less than 10% in spain. here never since revolution.
Mar 27 10:27:35 <tiberiusiv>	jurov you dont get it do you
Mar 27 10:27:41 <tiberiusiv>	the stats in those places are not reliable
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Mar 27 10:27:51 <Diablo-D3>	well
Mar 27 10:28:01 <tiberiusiv>	people work cash jobs or go to other EU countries to work
Mar 27 10:28:05 <tiberiusiv>	and say they are unemployed
Mar 27 10:28:13 <Diablo-D3>	the problem with unemployment is it doesnt include the people who became disabled just so they could survive
Mar 27 10:28:14 <tiberiusiv>	while building large houses and owning 2 cars
Mar 27 10:28:20 <tiberiusiv>	thats common practice in eastern europe
Mar 27 10:28:23 <jurov>	tiberiusiv we have quite generous support payment for few months. so they mus have some accurate accounting
Mar 27 10:28:39 <jurov>	otherwise ppl will riot when they;d receive nothing
Mar 27 10:28:41 <tiberiusiv>	the unemployed are collecting gov payments while working cash jobs
Mar 27 10:28:47 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: riot in the US? unlikely
Mar 27 10:28:51 <tiberiusiv>	listen ive been to those regions
Mar 27 10:28:55 <tiberiusiv>	i know how it works
Mar 27 10:29:04 <Diablo-D3>	otherwise we would have rioted in 2000 when congress refused a recount
Mar 27 10:29:06 <jurov>	as opposed to me. ic.
Mar 27 10:29:19 <tiberiusiv>	guy is unemployed while he has 2 cars and a mansion built from flying around europe doing roofs for cash
Mar 27 10:29:31 <tiberiusiv>	thats eastern europe
Mar 27 10:29:39 <Diablo-D3>	and then in 2004 when bush was re-elected after putting our nation into extreme debt, destroyed education, destroying social security, and destroying our medical infrascruture
Mar 27 10:29:42 <tiberiusiv>	the cost of living is low
Mar 27 10:29:57 <jurov>	anyway... these are the gypsies you tell as "don't know what the work mean"
Mar 27 10:30:12 <tiberiusiv>	gypsies dont work in the traditional sense
Mar 27 10:30:13 <Diablo-D3>	oh christ not the gypsy shit again
Mar 27 10:30:16 <jurov>	they often pick up work we despise
Mar 27 10:30:16 <tiberiusiv>	they steal and beg
Mar 27 10:30:19 <Diablo-D3>	NO ONE CARES JUROV
Mar 27 10:30:30 <tiberiusiv>	jurov yes theyll go and clean a house
Mar 27 10:30:33 <kakobrekla>	tiberiusiv cares
Mar 27 10:30:35 <tiberiusiv>	literally
Mar 27 10:30:37 <jurov>	Diablo-D3: you obviously don't care
Mar 27 10:30:42 <tiberiusiv>	theyll steal everything from it
Mar 27 10:30:43 <Diablo-D3>	tiberiusiv is a troll
Mar 27 10:30:45 <Diablo-D3>	he doesnt count
Mar 27 10:30:59 <jurov>	but i have few friends with darker skin and know how hard it's for them
Mar 27 10:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.46500025 = 2.325 BTC [-]
Mar 27 10:31:05 <tiberiusiv>	gypsies run professional begging/pick pocketting crews all over EU
Mar 27 10:31:13 <tiberiusiv>	they build themselves mansions back in romania
Mar 27 10:31:13 <jurov>	when ppl tel "they will steal" on sight
Mar 27 10:31:15 <tiberiusiv>	with the proceeds
Mar 27 10:31:29 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: dude
Mar 27 10:31:31 <tiberiusiv>	were talking tens of millions flowing into RO
Mar 27 10:31:34 <Diablo-D3>	thats what allll white people say
Mar 27 10:31:38 <Diablo-D3>	go to the deep south in the US
Mar 27 10:31:54 <Diablo-D3>	DEM DARE DARKIES, THEY'YA STEAL YA BLIND
Mar 27 10:32:02 <Bugpowder>	related to the bitcoin DDOSes?  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet-security/9957063/Web-slows-under-biggest-attack-ever.html
Mar 27 10:32:15 <Diablo-D3>	MAH GRAMPY'S GRAMPY WAS IN THE WAR YA KNOW
Mar 27 10:32:19 <Diablo-D3>	"which war?"
Mar 27 10:32:20 <tiberiusiv>	diablo: well blacks in the US perform crimes at 10-20x whites
Mar 27 10:32:28 <Diablo-D3>	THE CIVIL WAR, AND THE NIGGAHS WON DAT
Mar 27 10:32:34 <Diablo-D3>	WORST DAY IN HISTORY
Mar 27 10:32:39 <tiberiusiv>	yea we get it diablo
Mar 27 10:32:56 <tiberiusiv>	the US would have been paradise had the americans picked their own cotton
Mar 27 10:32:58 <jurov>	and now why do you think that is?
Mar 27 10:33:06 <Diablo-D3>	because white people are the most racist fucks on the planet
Mar 27 10:33:14 <Diablo-D3>	and I say that as a white guy
Mar 27 10:33:17 <tiberiusiv>	yea right
Mar 27 10:33:18 <Diablo-D3>	whos half german.
Mar 27 10:33:26 <Chaang-Noi>	asians are more racists than whites
Mar 27 10:33:32 <tiberiusiv>	agreed
Mar 27 10:33:42 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: dude, we killed white people because they wernt white enough
Mar 27 10:33:42 <KRS-1>	my experiences have shown me it goes both ways diablo
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Mar 27 10:33:51 <KRS-1>	experiences may differ of course
Mar 27 10:33:54 <tiberiusiv>	how are whites racist? blacks in the US have 1000x standard of living of their counterparts in black run countries
Mar 27 10:34:04 <tiberiusiv>	and most of that is from white handouts
Mar 27 10:34:08 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 learn asian history and culter, trust me on this
Mar 27 10:34:16 <Diablo-D3>	jewish? nope, not white, even though you're 100% genetically german
Mar 27 10:34:22 <tiberiusiv>	asians are racist
Mar 27 10:34:23 <Diablo-D3>	gay? nope, white people arent gay
Mar 27 10:34:26 <tiberiusiv>	i agree to that 100%
Mar 27 10:34:29 <Bugpowder>	ok now tiberiusiv has earned the ignore
Mar 27 10:34:33 <tiberiusiv>	diablo shutup.
Mar 27 10:34:45 <Diablo-D3>	disabled? nope, white people can automatically grow new limbs, srsly
Mar 27 10:34:47 <Bugpowder>	take your rants somewhere else you fuckhead
Mar 27 10:34:50 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav getting trolled and asking people to shut up, hahahah
Mar 27 10:34:56 *	Diablo-D3 snorts a line of coke with hitler
Mar 27 10:35:03 <Bugpowder>	I'm done
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Mar 27 10:35:12 <Chaang-Noi>	hitler is too jewish for my tasts
Mar 27 10:35:22 <tiberiusiv>	chaang-noi had a valid point
Mar 27 10:35:26 <tiberiusiv>	about the asian racism
Mar 27 10:35:36 <Diablo-D3>	and then we get to the big leagues over in soviet russia
Mar 27 10:35:45 <tiberiusiv>	if you are white you do not exist as a person in asia
Mar 27 10:35:49 <Diablo-D3>	they killed everyone who couldnt grow a stalin-esque power mustache
Mar 27 10:35:55 <tiberiusiv>	you can be 100% anonymous
Mar 27 10:36:36 <Diablo-D3>	even russian women can grow them
Mar 27 10:36:37 <tiberiusiv>	diablo: US educational system teaches white americans to hate themselves
Mar 27 10:36:40 <tiberiusiv>	and it shows up in you
Mar 27 10:36:57 <Diablo-D3>	they use it to scare off wolves and potential suitors
Mar 27 10:38:15 <kakobrekla>	The euro extended losses following media reports that Pier Luigi Bersani, the head of Italy’s center-left alliance, ruled out forming a coalition government, saying that only an “insane person” would want to govern Italy.
Mar 27 10:38:33 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 27 10:38:39 <jurov>	russian women scare wolves with mustache??? i thought they use the perfume
Mar 27 10:38:48 <tiberiusiv>	italy has never had a stable government in the last 100 years
Mar 27 10:38:52 <tiberiusiv>	its nothing new
Mar 27 10:38:57 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: no, thats to scare Putin away
Mar 27 10:39:15 <tiberiusiv>	italy doesnt work as a centralized nation state, they only do good when they are split into city states and regions
Mar 27 10:40:15 <kakobrekla>	speaking of italy, tiberiusiv was a roman emperor
Mar 27 10:40:31 <Diablo-D3>	tiberius is also kirk's middle name
Mar 27 10:40:31 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 27 10:41:19 <tiberiusiv>	we maybe doing a blowoff top on the weekly chart
Mar 27 10:41:23 <tiberiusiv>	high volume high price move
Mar 27 10:41:27 <tiberiusiv>	then a massive correction
Mar 27 10:41:57 <tiberiusiv>	back to $40
Mar 27 10:42:36 <Chaang-Noi>	hell i bought at 3.5   40 stable is awesome
Mar 27 10:43:01 <tiberiusiv>	im selling 30% between here and 120
Mar 27 10:43:23 <Chaang-Noi>	taht willleave you with .2 btc?
Mar 27 10:43:45 <tiberiusiv>	the SP500 will give us warning
Mar 27 10:45:31 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 87.5
Mar 27 10:45:31 <gribble>	There are currently 1391.9833 bitcoins offered at or under 87.5 USD, worth 121250.751869 USD in total. | Data vintage: 68.8257 seconds
Mar 27 10:45:46 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 87
Mar 27 10:45:46 <gribble>	There are currently 827.90834 bitcoins offered at or under 87.0 USD, worth 72027.1649475 USD in total. | Data vintage: 83.9231 seconds
Mar 27 10:46:03 <Chaang-Noi>	wtf?
Mar 27 10:46:09 <Chaang-Noi>	the bot slow?
Mar 27 10:46:19 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 87
Mar 27 10:46:19 <gribble>	There are currently 827.90834 bitcoins offered at or under 87.0 USD, worth 72027.1649475 USD in total. | Data vintage: 116.9298 seconds
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Mar 27 10:47:11 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 87
Mar 27 10:47:13 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 87.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 27 10:47:19 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 87.5
Mar 27 10:47:20 <gribble>	There are currently 228.73736 bitcoins offered at or under 87.5 USD, worth 20009.1910906 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.7427 seconds
Mar 27 10:47:26 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 88
Mar 27 10:47:26 <gribble>	There are currently 1430.3342 bitcoins offered at or under 88.0 USD, worth 125629.001767 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.4077 seconds
Mar 27 10:47:32 <Chaang-Noi>	there we go
Mar 27 10:48:20 <TomServo>	tiberiusiv: So how does the SP500's 4% growth for march corrolate to BTC's 145$? (roughly)
Mar 27 10:48:27 <TomServo>	145%
Mar 27 10:48:54 <Chaang-Noi>	some of wall street invested in btc :)
Mar 27 10:48:55 <tiberiusiv>	tomservo: as i explained before when you werent listening
Mar 27 10:49:15 <tiberiusiv>	since BTC is multitudes smaller and less liquid, moves are exacerbated both up and down
Mar 27 10:49:38 <tiberiusiv>	ie 2011 SP500 corrects 15% if memory serves me right = 80% decline for BTC
Mar 27 10:49:47 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 27 10:49:57 <tiberiusiv>	they both occured in the same time frame
Mar 27 10:50:01 <tiberiusiv>	just like this latest rally
Mar 27 10:50:03 <Chaang-Noi>	you must be a billionaire cuz you know so much
Mar 27 10:50:05 <tiberiusiv>	kicked off in january 2013
Mar 27 10:50:27 <MJR_>	wouldn't it be great to have a tradeable volatility index?
Mar 27 10:50:34 <tiberiusiv>	all markets involving the dollar tend to be somewhat correlated as HERDS think together
Mar 27 10:50:55 <tiberiusiv>	loose USD liquidity + positive herd = assets go up up up
Mar 27 10:51:06 <TomServo>	ok - I just missed the 'smaller less liquid' piece - we don't need to go through the whole thing again.
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Mar 27 10:51:48 <tiberiusiv>	tomservo: remember 4% move for SP500 is equivalent to about 40 bitcoin market caps
Mar 27 10:52:08 <tiberiusiv>	15tril market vs 800mil
Mar 27 10:52:29 <tiberiusiv>	err like 250x btcs
Mar 27 10:52:50 <Chaang-Noi>	if the sp500 goes down 20% btc will lose more than 100% of value right?
Mar 27 10:52:52 <tiberiusiv>	more fk like 2500 lol
Mar 27 10:52:58 <tiberiusiv>	chaang no
Mar 27 10:53:06 <Chaang-Noi>	sure?
Mar 27 10:53:17 <tiberiusiv>	20% correction in SP500 would most likely lead to BTC down 50-80%
Mar 27 10:53:29 <tiberiusiv>	maybe its more robust this time around so 50-60%
Mar 27 10:53:35 <tiberiusiv>	EASY
Mar 27 10:53:36 <Chaang-Noi>	so a 41% and btc loses more than 100% right?
Mar 27 10:53:49 <tiberiusiv>	you cant lose more then 100.
Mar 27 10:53:51 <TomServo>	I would say that is a 'loose' correlation at best.
Mar 27 10:53:54 <tiberiusiv>	thailan schools
Mar 27 10:54:02 <tiberiusiv>	tomservo: its not a direct correlation
Mar 27 10:54:06 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav thinks im thai
Mar 27 10:54:16 <tiberiusiv>	all USD priced assets fall when dollar liquidity contracts
Mar 27 10:54:23 <tiberiusiv>	BTC is not different.
Mar 27 10:54:35 <tiberiusiv>	look when BTC bottomed out around same time as the US stockmarket did in late 2011.
Mar 27 10:54:52 <tiberiusiv>	both have been in an uptrend since, with extreme optimism in the last 3months+
Mar 27 10:55:01 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav tiberslav the expert with .35 btc
Mar 27 10:55:14 <tiberiusiv>	producing a new all time high in the dow, close to new highs in sp500
Mar 27 10:55:17 <tiberiusiv>	and new high in BTC
Mar 27 10:55:35 <tiberiusiv>	they will fall together too
Mar 27 10:56:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00442 = 0.221 BTC [+]
Mar 27 10:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85 BTC [+]
Mar 27 10:57:56 <MJR_>	i guess the OIX has some similarity to the VIX or VXX...but i don't think it does the implied variance
Mar 27 10:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8 BTC [-]
Mar 27 10:58:19 <tiberiusiv>	tomservo: news is just noise.
Mar 27 10:58:25 <tiberiusiv>	means nothing
Mar 27 10:58:34 <TomServo>	tiberiusiv: what does that make what you're doing?
Mar 27 10:58:43 <tiberiusiv>	look when wordpress adopted btc
Mar 27 10:58:49 <tiberiusiv>	after it already rose 7-8x
Mar 27 10:58:57 <tiberiusiv>	off its lows and was well into a positive trend
Mar 27 10:59:01 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Mar 27 10:59:01 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.532 BTC [-]
Mar 27 10:59:36 <tiberiusiv>	if the block fork happend during a negative trend, the price would have never recovered and everyone would have been blaming the fork
Mar 27 10:59:49 <tiberiusiv>	it meant nothing.
Mar 27 11:00:40 <TomServo>	I think it's crazy the fork didn't have a bigger impact.  I still don't understand it.
Mar 27 11:00:46 <tiberiusiv>	other then extrem externalities and unforseen events, most news is irrelevant
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Mar 27 11:00:56 <tiberiusiv>	because the crowd was herding
Mar 27 11:01:01 <tiberiusiv>	its all about psycology
Mar 27 11:01:05 <tiberiusiv>	and it was still POSITIVE
Mar 27 11:01:23 <tiberiusiv>	read into what drives markets, its not fundamentals or news
Mar 27 11:01:27 <tiberiusiv>	those are laggards
Mar 27 11:02:20 <Chaang-Noi>	tiperissuv what is your day job? or you a welfare kinda guy?
Mar 27 11:02:30 <tiberiusiv>	im retired
Mar 27 11:02:37 <splnkr>	i'd like to know the amount of -wallets- in existence rather than addresses to better gauge adoption
Mar 27 11:02:51 <tiberiusiv>	splnkr: adoption has been terrible
Mar 27 11:02:53 <Chaang-Noi>	there is a chart for that, i dont have link ready :(
Mar 27 11:02:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.009901 BTC [-]
Mar 27 11:03:00 <tiberiusiv>	much less then the BTC evangelists want you to believe
Mar 27 11:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.565 = 2.825 BTC [+]
Mar 27 11:03:06 <Chaang-Noi>	used to show by country too
Mar 27 11:03:17 <splnkr>	tiberiusiv: how can you assess that
Mar 27 11:03:22 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 88
Mar 27 11:03:25 <gribble>	There are currently 1443.1185 bitcoins offered at or under 88.0 USD, worth 126757.23828 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 27 11:03:32 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 87.71
Mar 27 11:03:33 <gribble>	There are currently 488.05041 bitcoins offered at or under 87.71 USD, worth 42758.3837702 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.3323 seconds
Mar 27 11:03:39 <tiberiusiv>	look how shitty daily transactions are despite all this massive adoption, aweful bitpay sales
Mar 27 11:03:53 <tiberiusiv>	the fact that the top 30 adresses control over 30% of BTCs
Mar 27 11:04:04 <error4733>	lol
Mar 27 11:04:31 <error4733>	in real world 10% control 90%
Mar 27 11:04:31 <tiberiusiv>	4000 vendors and 2mil in sales should tell you how bad real world adoption is
Mar 27 11:04:33 <splnkr>	tiberiusiv: are you familar with s-curve new tech. adoption rates?
Mar 27 11:04:48 <Chaang-Noi>	facepalm
Mar 27 11:04:49 <tiberiusiv>	error: in bitcoin 1% control 90% of coins
Mar 27 11:05:14 <error4733>	lucky bastard
Mar 27 11:05:23 <kakobrekla>	still better than fiat money!
Mar 27 11:05:36 <splnkr>	tiberiusiv: http://smart-future.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/S-Curve1_261009.jpg
Mar 27 11:05:37 <error4733>	tiberiusiv : link ?
Mar 27 11:05:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7051 BTC [-]
Mar 27 11:05:54 <error4733>	seems to big
Mar 27 11:05:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7051 BTC [-]
Mar 27 11:05:58 <splnkr>	i'd expect one of those in terms of -BTC adoption-, not price
Mar 27 11:06:02 <splnkr>	
Mar 27 11:06:04 <tiberiusiv>	error: go count top 410 adresses
Mar 27 11:06:09 <tiberiusiv>	which is probably like 100 people max
Mar 27 11:06:20 <tiberiusiv>	it adds up to 40% of coins
Mar 27 11:06:36 <tiberiusiv>	i dont think you understand how badly BTC wealth distribution really is lol
Mar 27 11:06:44 <tiberiusiv>	the majority of the "community" has nothing.
Mar 27 11:07:07 <saulimus>	that's why freicoin sounds like a better idea, but who's going to want that? nobody...
Mar 27 11:07:11 <splnkr>	how's that different from any other currency
Mar 27 11:07:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 89.84
Mar 27 11:07:14 <gribble>	There are currently 3551.0734 bitcoins offered at or under 89.84 USD, worth 314914.120344 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.6477 seconds
Mar 27 11:07:17 <tiberiusiv>	freicoin is retarded
Mar 27 11:07:25 <tiberiusiv>	infinite inflation?
Mar 27 11:07:39 <tiberiusiv>	saulimus: whoever said wealth should be evenly distributed
Mar 27 11:07:48 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,vwap
Mar 27 11:07:48 <gribble>	Error: "bc,vwap" is not a valid command.
Mar 27 11:07:51 <tiberiusiv>	majority of the community are braindeads
Mar 27 11:07:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;vwap
Mar 27 11:07:53 <gribble>	Error: "vwap" is not a valid command.
Mar 27 11:08:00 <ThickAsThieves>	is there a comman d for that?
Mar 27 11:08:11 <saulimus>	I just want a coin that's "fair".
Mar 27 11:08:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;24hrprc
Mar 27 11:08:12 <gribble>	Error: "24hrprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 27 11:08:13 <tiberiusiv>	why should they be given capital to cause damage with
Mar 27 11:08:16 <error4733>	life is not fair
Mar 27 11:08:26 <error4733>	why btc should be fair ?
Mar 27 11:08:28 <tiberiusiv>	saulimus: fair? some people are born disabled
Mar 27 11:08:29 <tiberiusiv>	is that fair
Mar 27 11:08:34 <MJR_>	saulimus: lol my friend was just saying that freicoins were cooler
Mar 27 11:08:44 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 87.71
Mar 27 11:08:44 <gribble>	There are currently 242.79055 bitcoins offered at or under 87.71 USD, worth 21288.6741198 USD in total. | Data vintage: 113.9707 seconds
Mar 27 11:08:47 <tiberiusiv>	MJR well you being a loser, doesnt surprise me
Mar 27 11:08:49 <saulimus>	no, but it's better for some things to be fair than none at all
Mar 27 11:08:51 <MJR_>	i said...on their website they say that people will want to hoard and will move to gold or bitcoins
Mar 27 11:09:06 <tiberiusiv>	capital goes into the hands of those who can deploy it most efficiently
Mar 27 11:09:15 <MJR_>	the only times demurrage has really worked was with fiat and govt control
Mar 27 11:09:34 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin has no bailout mechanism(inflation) to artifically redistribute purchasing power to losers
Mar 27 11:09:38 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 27 11:09:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.60100, Best ask: 87.64000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03900, Last trade: 87.64000, 24 hour volume: 74410.88664766, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 81.34377
Mar 27 11:09:39 <MJR_>	you can't force people to adopt a currency they have to spend, so it is an interesting thought experiment, but will never succeed
Mar 27 11:09:44 <tiberiusiv>	so naturally the wealth distribution in btc will be bad
Mar 27 11:10:14 <error4733>	can't wait before a early dump 100K just for fun
Mar 27 11:10:25 <tiberiusiv>	but the upside to that is you have more capable hands controlling capital
Mar 27 11:10:37 <tiberiusiv>	meaning a more robust system
Mar 27 11:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.593 BTC [+]
Mar 27 11:11:22 <tiberiusiv>	saulimus whats your idea of fair? you sitting around in your underwear all day doing nothing and expecting to have a share in everything around you?
Mar 27 11:11:27 <Chaang-Noi>	we are about to rocket?
Mar 27 11:11:45 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Mar 27 11:11:45 <gribble>	0.026871 seconds
Mar 27 11:11:47 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Mar 27 11:11:50 <gribble>	There are currently 36662286 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9836023.47991 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0190 seconds
Mar 27 11:12:19 <error4733>	what is the command to see the impact for a 10k dump
Mar 27 11:12:52 <saulimus>	tiberiusiv, a bitcoin that doesn't reward early adopters in a huge way. just like you said, the wealth distribution is a lot worse than in fiat.
Mar 27 11:13:06 <tiberiusiv>	early adopters take on more risk
Mar 27 11:13:15 <saulimus>	risk is relative
Mar 27 11:13:18 <MJR_>	who cares about wealth distribution
Mar 27 11:13:19 <error4733>	lol more risk ?
Mar 27 11:13:28 <error4733>	50K BTC was like 50$
Mar 27 11:13:30 <MJR_>	rich people spend money
Mar 27 11:13:32 <ThickAsThieves>	why do you guys take tib seriously?
Mar 27 11:13:35 <Chaang-Noi>	NEW ATH!!!!!!!!
Mar 27 11:13:35 <error4733>	wich risk ? :D
Mar 27 11:13:40 <ThickAsThieves>	it litters mt chat log
Mar 27 11:13:42 <ThickAsThieves>	my
Mar 27 11:13:43 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: i muted him, so i am only seeing one side of the convo
Mar 27 11:13:50 <MJR_>	it's derivative trolling now
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Mar 27 11:13:54 <tiberiusiv>	saulimus: BTC wealth distribution is probaly one of the worst out of any monetary system
Mar 27 11:14:15 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav is a fun troll we will get tired of in a day or so and all have him on igniore
Mar 27 11:14:26 <MJR_>	yeah true
Mar 27 11:14:26 <saulimus>	ok
Mar 27 11:14:33 <saulimus>	he sounds a bit bitter and angry
Mar 27 11:14:35 <ThickAsThieves>	can't wait
Mar 27 11:14:57 <tiberiusiv>	saulimus: demeurage means people make incorrect decisions rushing to spend
Mar 27 11:14:58 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 80
Mar 27 11:15:00 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 27 11:15:01 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 88
Mar 27 11:15:02 <gribble>	There are currently 943.5047 bitcoins offered at or under 88.0 USD, worth 82991.945217 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.2569 seconds
Mar 27 11:15:10 <MJR_>	he does sound bitter and angry...some people will take any attention, even negative (see: lindsay lohan)
Mar 27 11:15:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
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Mar 27 11:15:12 <error4733>	yes but some early will want cash out at certain point
Mar 27 11:15:13 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 228258 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1565 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 6 hours, 12 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6736564.18643 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.60841
Mar 27 11:15:14 <tiberiusiv>	saulimus: it builds none robust systems that implode
Mar 27 11:15:25 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Mar 27 11:15:28 <gribble>	49661.7113479
Mar 27 11:15:33 <ThickAsThieves>	booo
Mar 27 11:15:35 <MJR_>	i don't know about you, but it appears that $100 is pretty much certain in the next month
Mar 27 11:15:41 <error4733>	?
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Mar 27 11:15:44 <tiberiusiv>	error4733: well many early adopters will be cashing out, voorhees will probably be worth more then 100million if btc is $1k
Mar 27 11:15:47 <error4733>	next monday
Mar 27 11:15:53 <MJR_>	so if most people see $100 coming...i think they would wait till around then, high 90's etc
Mar 27 11:15:56 <tiberiusiv>	so he will need plenty of fools to hit his ask
Mar 27 11:16:05 <MJR_>	then we get a little pullback
Mar 27 11:16:11 <tiberiusiv>	hence where MJR and his pals come in
Mar 27 11:16:17 <Chaang-Noi>	thing is, no one is cashing out, or if the did, it was at 30
Mar 27 11:16:21 <Chaang-Noi>	all bears are long dead
Mar 27 11:16:23 <MJR_>	and more people jump in to push us past that level, my projection at least
Mar 27 11:16:26 <TomServo>	;;market sell 10000
Mar 27 11:16:27 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 837740.3477 USD and would take the last price down to 81.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 83.7740 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 86.3440 seconds
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Mar 27 11:16:30 <TomServo>	error4733: ^
Mar 27 11:16:33 <ThickAsThieves>	$100 could happen this week, shit's getting hot
Mar 27 11:16:39 <MJR_>	sure is
Mar 27 11:16:39 <tiberiusiv>	the big players will cashout around the 1-2k
Mar 27 11:16:46 <error4733>	lol S.dice value is 37M$ today
Mar 27 11:16:47 <tiberiusiv>	once theyve suckered in the bids they need
Mar 27 11:16:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i will sell some at $1000
Mar 27 11:16:58 <MJR_>	i might sell one or two
Mar 27 11:17:17 <tiberiusiv>	MJR is countingon 1 million a bitcoin
Mar 27 11:17:36 <tiberiusiv>	hell lose most of his coins in "options" long before the price even gets to 100
Mar 27 11:18:05 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 88
Mar 27 11:18:08 <error4733>	so tib what you say is, we play with 1M BTC because 9M is blocked in healty address and stay there ?
Mar 27 11:18:08 <gribble>	There are currently 729.12237 bitcoins offered at or under 88.0 USD, worth 64148.2153717 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 27 11:18:21 <tiberiusiv>	error4733: pretty much
Mar 27 11:18:39 <tiberiusiv>	error4733: about 0.6% of total market cap sets the price on a given day
Mar 27 11:18:41 <error4733>	look good for me ! that me my BTC is 10 time more valuable
Mar 27 11:19:08 <error4733>	*that mean
Mar 27 11:19:12 <tiberiusiv>	error4733 hence why the price is rising
Mar 27 11:19:25 <tiberiusiv>	a huge % of the BTC do not move.
Mar 27 11:19:54 <MJR_>	error4733: 10X more able to move the market at least...it's similar to S.DICE's situation
Mar 27 11:19:59 <Chaang-Noi>	wonder if 95 will break by the time i wake up tomorrow
Mar 27 11:20:01 <tiberiusiv>	the major holders dont have the bids available to be able to "cashout" yet
Mar 27 11:20:19 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, try selling all google or apple stock in the world at once
Mar 27 11:20:28 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 27 11:20:33 <tiberiusiv>	precisley
Mar 27 11:20:42 <MJR_>	Chaang-Noi: some one is always on the other side of the trade
Mar 27 11:20:52 <MJR_>	so someone is buying all the appl or goog in the world
Mar 27 11:20:52 <tiberiusiv>	no they arent.
Mar 27 11:20:56 <tiberiusiv>	hence why you cant sell out
Mar 27 11:21:08 <Chaang-Noi>	there are more google shares than bids
Mar 27 11:21:09 <tiberiusiv>	lol MJR the child like mind
Mar 27 11:21:10 <Chaang-Noi>	this is normal
Mar 27 11:21:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 11:21:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.90501, Best ask: 87.96700, Bid-ask spread: 0.06199, Last trade: 87.96700, 24 hour volume: 74596.54084966, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.96700, 24 hour vwap: 81.52881
Mar 27 11:21:23 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav you have no valied point... just stfu lol
Mar 27 11:21:30 <tiberiusiv>	chaang: actually google and aapl trade about 2% to market cap
Mar 27 11:21:32 <Chaang-Noi>	87.98
Mar 27 11:21:33 <tiberiusiv>	vs 0.6% BTC
Mar 27 11:21:37 <tiberiusiv>	so its a huge gap.
Mar 27 11:22:09 <tiberiusiv>	at 1k btc voorhees from his sdice scheme + own holdings will have $100mil usd that he will need to find a bid for
Mar 27 11:22:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 27 11:22:13 <gribble>	69.445847 seconds
Mar 27 11:22:14 <MJR_>	he's never had one
Mar 27 11:22:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7051 = 4.9357 BTC [-]
Mar 27 11:22:37 <MJR_>	its basically (your position) ^ -1
Mar 27 11:22:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 29 @ 0.715 = 20.735 BTC [+]
Mar 27 11:23:12 <Chaang-Noi>	87.99
Mar 27 11:23:24 <ThickAsThieves>	88
Mar 27 11:23:31 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 88
Mar 27 11:23:34 <gribble>	There are currently 416.45479 bitcoins offered at or under 88.0 USD, worth 36647.2587645 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 27 11:23:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.745 = 7.45 BTC [+]
Mar 27 11:23:50 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFT7hNhop7w
Mar 27 11:24:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7489 BTC [+]
Mar 27 11:24:47 <MJR_>	what you said to the negative first power
Mar 27 11:25:18 <Chaang-Noi>	oh gox, why you haz so much lag
Mar 27 11:25:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.74899 = 2.996 BTC [+]
Mar 27 11:25:52 <smickles>	thestrin1puller: the ;;seen me's are starting to get confusing. Do you use it as some kind of market indicator? ;D
Mar 27 11:27:24 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/2013/03/27/mpex-might-have-a-significant-effect-on-the-market/
Mar 27 11:27:26 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder, should i really buy a boat? or get a real boat? hmmmm
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Mar 27 11:28:25 <Chaang-Noi>	over 88
Mar 27 11:28:27 <smickles>	really buy a boat or buy a real boat?
Mar 27 11:28:40 <Chaang-Noi>	a real boat
Mar 27 11:28:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i live near the ocean
Mar 27 11:28:46 <tiberiusiv>	thanks for the reference smickles
Mar 27 11:29:02 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 88.20
Mar 27 11:29:03 <gribble>	There are currently 99.482627 bitcoins offered at or under 88.2 USD, worth 8774.26253061 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.1237 seconds
Mar 27 11:29:04 <smickles>	thestrin1puller: np, want to provide me a better link for you?
Mar 27 11:29:08 <smickles>	er
Mar 27 11:29:12 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: %^^
Mar 27 11:29:27 <Diablo-D3>	asicminer div tiem
Mar 27 11:29:31 <ThickAsThieves>	smickles this will surely go to tib's head
Mar 27 11:29:37 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 did they pay?
Mar 27 11:29:49 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yeah, this is the 5th dividend this month
Mar 27 11:29:51 <ThickAsThieves>	toll power +10
Mar 27 11:30:00 <ThickAsThieves>	troll power +10*
Mar 27 11:30:00 <Chaang-Noi>	awesome what was it?
Mar 27 11:30:13 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: oh, dunno, got the pre-dividend tx so far
Mar 27 11:30:23 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, i did not :/
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Mar 27 11:32:39 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav is gone :/
Mar 27 11:33:13 <deadweasel>	he's been gone for a while, thanks to /ignore
Mar 27 11:33:25 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 27 11:33:28 *	smickles ignores noone
Mar 27 11:34:02 <deadweasel>	i unignore him sometimes just to take his pulse again, but it plagues my screen, so i usually re ingore
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Mar 27 11:34:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.129 BTC [-]
Mar 27 11:34:12 *	deadweasel ignores tiberiusiv
Mar 27 11:34:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 7 @ 0.129 = 0.903 BTC [-]
Mar 27 11:34:23 <smickles>	i thought it a little funny, pointing out tiberiusiv's accusation agains mircea_popescu with links to their -otc ratings
Mar 27 11:35:09 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 you got test payment?
Mar 27 11:35:22 <unbalanced>	Chang-Noi: 95 is in reach on CAD market: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/virtexCAD.html
Mar 27 11:35:34 <Chaang-Noi>	;D
Mar 27 11:35:50 <unbalanced>	Someone should tell that waller that if he just moves it to $190, everyone will follow him at this point.
Mar 27 11:35:56 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 27 11:35:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.60000, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 72723.62126118, 24 hour low: 75.60000, 24 hour high: 88.24300, 24 hour vwap: 81.94089
Mar 27 11:36:08 <deadweasel>	unbalanced: he knows
Mar 27 11:36:13 <deadweasel>	i'd wager
Mar 27 11:36:20 <unbalanced>	Dood yer freakin me out.
Mar 27 11:36:24 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 okay got mine to, but now shoing up on client, but in block chain info
Mar 27 11:36:39 <unbalanced>	I'm afraid of whales.
Mar 27 11:36:59 <unbalanced>	What did someone say above? whalebears?
Mar 27 11:37:53 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b432x/mpex_might_have_a_significant_effect_on_the_market/ << if you want to show it some love on reddit
Mar 27 11:38:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i think ive been to reddit like twice ever
Mar 27 11:38:41 <ThickAsThieves>	am i missing out?
Mar 27 11:38:46 <smickles>	not really
Mar 27 11:38:56 <smickles>	it's hard to filter the crud
Mar 27 11:39:20 <ThickAsThieves>	i read some of the obama posts and thats about uit
Mar 27 11:39:22 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Mar 27 11:39:46 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: it's mostly just another way to share links
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Mar 27 11:40:20 <ThickAsThieves>	probly better than my facebook feed at least
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Mar 27 11:44:45 <smickles>	heh, there is probably a little more input than your facebook feed gets
Mar 27 11:45:51 <jurov>	upvoted
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Mar 27 11:46:34 <jurov>	but you think first comment will be WTF? ELI5
Mar 27 11:46:45 <jurov>	derp.. *I think
Mar 27 11:46:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0157 BTC [+]
Mar 27 11:47:45 <smickles>	jurov: heh, maybe there's a market for eli5 mpex
Mar 27 11:48:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.015707 BTC [+]
Mar 27 11:48:32 <jurov>	that would be best done as redirect straight to satoshi dice
Mar 27 11:50:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3400 @ 0.00418223 = 14.2196 BTC [+]
Mar 27 11:50:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00415002 = 2.49 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 11:54:04 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: for 1371 shares, 5.175525
Mar 27 11:54:22 <Chaang-Noi>	not a lot eh?
Mar 27 11:54:36 <Diablo-D3>	and remember, they just paid one for 10.x 3 days ago
Mar 27 11:54:38 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 11:54:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.24301, Best ask: 88.48700, Bid-ask spread: 0.24399, Last trade: 88.24301, 24 hour volume: 71375.87196489, 24 hour low: 76.80000, 24 hour high: 88.48700, 24 hour vwap: 82.17944
Mar 27 11:54:47 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 27 11:55:17 <Chaang-Noi>	0.003775 each
Mar 27 11:55:34 <Chaang-Noi>	and this is like for 72 hours?
Mar 27 11:55:58 <Chaang-Noi>	if so a week would be .008
Mar 27 11:56:08 <ThickAsThieves>	AM div is in i think
Mar 27 11:56:09 <ThickAsThieves>	0.003775
Mar 27 11:56:15 <Chaang-Noi>	still well over 1% per week
Mar 27 11:56:40 <Chaang-Noi>	AM is undervalued :/
Mar 27 11:57:03 <Diablo-D3>	I know, right?
Mar 27 11:57:05 <leotreasure>	i agree
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Mar 27 11:57:36 <ThickAsThieves>	what was the previous payoff div?
Mar 27 11:58:16 <Chaang-Noi>	dont know but that was just paying the 163k
Mar 27 11:58:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i wanted to know what it was with the 400k and that is still over 1% a week right now, awesome
Mar 27 11:58:53 <ThickAsThieves>	if you take half of the payoff div
Mar 27 11:58:59 <ThickAsThieves>	and add it to this one
Mar 27 11:59:03 <ThickAsThieves>	it's 0.00752923 for the week
Mar 27 11:59:15 <ThickAsThieves>	probly closer to what next week's will look like
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Mar 27 12:00:58 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think so
Mar 27 12:01:17 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
Mar 27 12:01:19 <ThickAsThieves>	ok
Mar 27 12:01:19 <Chaang-Noi>	sorry
Mar 27 12:01:22 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah close to that
Mar 27 12:01:47 <Chaang-Noi>	okay so .0075 is 1% of current trading value
Mar 27 12:01:50 <Chaang-Noi>	still pretty awesome
Mar 27 12:02:00 <Chaang-Noi>	esp with bfl fail and maybe 60 ghs soon
Mar 27 12:02:05 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Mar 27 12:02:07 <ThickAsThieves>	i agree
Mar 27 12:02:23 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd still feel better of share price went back to .9 though :)
Mar 27 12:02:28 <ThickAsThieves>	if*
Mar 27 12:02:42 <Chaang-Noi>	if the 60 ghs comes on line it will be well over 2btc
Mar 27 12:03:34 <ThickAsThieves>	"First week's normal dividends paid. The balance payment of the next batch, as well as the premium for a full-mask to guarantee our quantity production (200 TH/s or more, depending on how well BTC/USD could do) within the next three months, are partly taken from this week's revenue and the next week's. So the dividends within these two weeks are lower than normal."
Mar 27 12:03:38 <ThickAsThieves>	Friedcat
Mar 27 12:04:14 <ThickAsThieves>	so this next week could be a great time for buying
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Mar 27 12:04:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i heart friedcat
Mar 27 12:05:18 <Chaang-Noi>	all my sell orders are now gone lol
Mar 27 12:06:04 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Mar 27 12:06:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;)
Mar 27 12:06:17 <Chaang-Noi>	same at 1.3 left
Mar 27 12:07:04 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Mar 27 12:07:10 <Bugpowder>	maybe I won't short asicminer
Mar 27 12:07:19 <Bugpowder>	thank god for bitcoin-assets
Mar 27 12:07:31 <Bugpowder>	otherwise I would be a btcloser
Mar 27 12:07:35 <Bugpowder>	btc loser
Mar 27 12:07:48 <Chaang-Noi>	MP hates AM lol
Mar 27 12:08:04 <Chaang-Noi>	200 TH is going to rape everything
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Mar 27 12:09:08 <Bugpowder>	my calls are raping everything right now
Mar 27 12:09:13 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 27 12:09:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i only have a few
Mar 27 12:09:26 <ThickAsThieves>	but i'm quite happy with them
Mar 27 12:09:29 <Bugpowder>	$6000 profit each dollar rise in btc price
Mar 27 12:11:19 <MJR_>	Bugpowder: i read that as bt closer
Mar 27 12:11:26 <MJR_>	and i was like NICE, coffee is for closers
Mar 27 12:12:04 <Chaang-Noi>	88.7
Mar 27 12:12:08 <MJR_>	yeah, i am seriously considering going long asicminer
Mar 27 12:12:09 <Chaang-Noi>	where we not just at 67.7 lol
Mar 27 12:12:20 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 27 12:12:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.131 = 0.917 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:12:21 <Chaang-Noi>	im long AM :)
Mar 27 12:12:23 <gribble>	82.46
Mar 27 12:12:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.13 = 0.39 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:12:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.13 = 0.26 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:12:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.129 = 0.903 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:12:30 <Bugpowder>	TIME TO BUY A NICE SET OF STEAKKNIVES
Mar 27 12:12:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 25 @ 0.1253 = 3.1325 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:13:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1439 BTC [+]
Mar 27 12:14:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Mar 27 12:14:08 <gribble>	There are currently 36661713 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9815526.0337 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0188 seconds
Mar 27 12:14:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:15:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:15:53 <Bugpowder>	you know, we might actually break 100 before friday
Mar 27 12:15:59 <Bugpowder>	at this pace
Mar 27 12:16:05 <Chaang-Noi>	we might
Mar 27 12:16:13 <jurov>	CoinBr announcement about MPOE options renaming: https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/automatic-exercise/msg2703/#msg2703
Mar 27 12:16:22 <Bugpowder>	in which case...  those 750Ts would be profitable
Mar 27 12:16:55 <Chaang-Noi>	im not tgoing to risk it
Mar 27 12:17:26 <Bugpowder>	i'm selling them ;-)
Mar 27 12:17:35 <Chaang-Noi>	lol :)
Mar 27 12:18:03 <Bugpowder>	I guess 15:00 is when west coast US opens for biz
Mar 27 12:18:12 <Bugpowder>	lots of volume around that time
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Mar 27 12:19:27 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 88.7
Mar 27 12:19:28 <gribble>	There are currently 55.752531 bitcoins offered at or under 88.7 USD, worth 4945.2495272 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.9561 seconds
Mar 27 12:19:34 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89
Mar 27 12:19:35 <gribble>	There are currently 926.48815 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 82396.9086874 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.9719 seconds
Mar 27 12:19:39 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 90
Mar 27 12:19:39 <gribble>	There are currently 4351.9612 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 389854.772436 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.6086 seconds
Mar 27 12:19:44 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 95
Mar 27 12:19:44 <gribble>	There are currently 10903.49 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 997552.815755 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.4400 seconds
Mar 27 12:19:47 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 100
Mar 27 12:19:48 <gribble>	There are currently 20573.206 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1947966.64786 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.6799 seconds
Mar 27 12:20:40 <deadweasel>	so these c750 options.  their original price is set by mpex.  as the expiry approaches and BTCUSD goes up, the cost of one option increases?
Mar 27 12:20:52 <thestrin1puller>	yea
Mar 27 12:21:08 <thestrin1puller>	but if the price fluxes real fast that's when it's a good time to buy/sell and option
Mar 27 12:21:29 <deadweasel>	so by now, C750T at .2499 would not really be profitable to buy, assuming VWAP stays up?
Mar 27 12:21:57 <thestrin1puller>	C750 was good to buy yesterday when the price 24hprc was at ~69 but the current price was 75
Mar 27 12:22:03 <thestrin1puller>	wow the price went up that fast?
Mar 27 12:22:07 <thestrin1puller>	it was a .101
Mar 27 12:22:13 <thestrin1puller>	that would have also been a good time to buy
Mar 27 12:22:20 <deadweasel>	.2499 listed on coinbr
Mar 27 12:22:24 <thestrin1puller>	a lot can happen by friday though
Mar 27 12:22:25 <Bugpowder>	the C750Ts are not being offered by mpoebot
Mar 27 12:22:28 <Bugpowder>	the bot is sold out of those
Mar 27 12:22:29 <deadweasel>	thanks for the explanation.
Mar 27 12:22:40 <Bugpowder>	they are being offered by me, and one other unknown party
Mar 27 12:22:45 <thestrin1puller>	LOL
Mar 27 12:22:53 <thestrin1puller>	sellin calls mr. Powda
Mar 27 12:23:13 <Bugpowder>	I am willing to sell at a 100 break-even price model
Mar 27 12:23:21 <Bugpowder>	for all my holdings
Mar 27 12:23:31 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i would too lol
Mar 27 12:23:41 <deadweasel>	:)  I am willing to understand that, if I was so able.
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Mar 27 12:23:53 <Diablo-D3>	http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/27/bitcoin-expensify/
Mar 27 12:23:59 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Mar 27 12:24:01 <Bugpowder>	interesting how smooth the asks are up to 100
Mar 27 12:24:03 <gribble>	Time since last block: 47 minutes and 11 seconds
Mar 27 12:24:08 <Chaang-Noi>	this is why ltc
Mar 27 12:24:12 <Bugpowder>	I guess everyone is afraid of 100
Mar 27 12:24:20 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 27 12:24:20 <Bugpowder>	and is putting asks a bit below
Mar 27 12:24:23 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 228264 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1559 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6745408.56422 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.7405
Mar 27 12:24:39 <jurov>	lmao... some chips blew
Mar 27 12:24:41 <deadweasel>	So, the Optoins offered should change after friday, right
Mar 27 12:24:42 <deadweasel>	?
Mar 27 12:24:58 <jurov>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-btc-usd-options-denomination-change/
Mar 27 12:25:05 <jurov>	^ deadweasel
Mar 27 12:25:08 <deadweasel>	There should be a C800T, C800N, C8500T, C8500N, etc.
Mar 27 12:25:11 <deadweasel>	oh, thx
Mar 27 12:25:56 <jurov>	tl,dr: It’s the intention to offer strikes from 20 to 200 at a step of 3 via the MPOE bot (so 20, 23, 26 etc).
Mar 27 12:26:38 <MJR_>	can people create their own strikes?
Mar 27 12:26:48 <smickles>	I like the *all time high* thing on bitcoinity
Mar 27 12:26:54 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 27 12:26:58 <Chaang-Noi>	andt he cartoons
Mar 27 12:27:06 <MJR_>	smickles: me too! but why bother taking it off...every tick is a NATH
Mar 27 12:27:13 <deadweasel>	so the bot will start listing, brokers buy, say jurov, and posts some on Coinbr?
Mar 27 12:27:14 <smickles>	I've missed all the cartoon tho :|
Mar 27 12:27:19 <jurov>	MJR_ you can on bitfunder
Mar 27 12:27:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i saw one and was like wtf!
Mar 27 12:27:32 <MJR_>	no i was wondering about MKOPT
Mar 27 12:27:39 <jurov>	deadweasel wat?
Mar 27 12:27:42 <MJR_>	can you use that to make your own strike or will it be rejected
Mar 27 12:28:02 <jurov>	MJR_: you'll be rejected
Mar 27 12:28:08 <jurov>	you have to use existing MPSIC
Mar 27 12:28:13 <MJR_>	ah ok cool
Mar 27 12:28:46 <jurov>	deadweasel: coinbr doesn't offer own options. what you see on New order should be the saem order book as on mpex
Mar 27 12:28:52 <thestrin1puller>	smickles: sent you mail and a pm
Mar 27 12:29:03 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89]
Mar 27 12:29:04 <gribble>	Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
Mar 27 12:29:06 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89
Mar 27 12:29:08 <gribble>	There are currently 817.2041 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 72697.3513288 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
Mar 27 12:29:09 <jurov>	except that there's some spurious caching added at ddos time, it seems.
Mar 27 12:29:22 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh i wanted to break 89 before bed :/
Mar 27 12:29:52 <thestrin1puller>	;;ticker
Mar 27 12:29:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.75001, Best ask: 88.75800, Bid-ask spread: 0.00799, Last trade: 88.75001, 24 hour volume: 69349.69370356, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 88.80000, 24 hour vwap: 82.50051
Mar 27 12:29:58 <MJR_>	.25 more
Mar 27 12:29:58 <thestrin1puller>	;;bids 80
Mar 27 12:29:58 <Guest9228>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 27 12:29:59 <gribble>	There are currently 13120.794 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 1092667.62994 USD in total. | Data vintage: 50.4148 seconds
Mar 27 12:30:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.45300000 / 0.46644661 / 0.47500000 (32 shares, 14.92629165 BTC), 7D: 0.40010000 / 0.48668579 / 0.53000000 (1220 shares, 593.75665772 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.54086072 / 0.68950000 (5570 shares, 3012.59421043 BTC)
Mar 27 12:30:05 <Guest9228>	!ticker h vtx
Mar 27 12:30:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.47000000 / 0.60045594 / 0.73925000 (263 shares, 157.91991127 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.42498831 / 0.79900000 (11466 shares, 4872.91591485 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.42498831 / 0.79900000 (11466 shares, 4872.91591485 BTC)
Mar 27 12:30:10 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker h HIM
Mar 27 12:30:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.65000000 / 1.78333333 / 1.85000000 (27 shares, 48.15000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.78399689 / 2.00000000 (193 shares, 344.31140034 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 2.09413745 / 18.00000000 (661 shares, 1384.22485269 BTC)
Mar 27 12:30:15 <jurov>	having sex life dependent on btcusd rate, goat?
Mar 27 12:30:22 <jurov>	uh oh
Mar 27 12:30:25 <smickles>	thestrin1puller: got it. i'll have that to you sometime later today :)
Mar 27 12:31:11 <thestrin1puller>	;;calc .24 / 3
Mar 27 12:31:12 <gribble>	0.08
Mar 27 12:31:56 <MJR_>	so, i had a price target of 100
Mar 27 12:32:07 <MJR_>	what should i update that to?
Mar 27 12:32:12 <MJR_>	opinions of course
Mar 27 12:32:16 <Schadenfreude>	Christ, 5 hours and the transaction still didn't get confirmed
Mar 27 12:32:27 <MJR_>	but curious, 1/1/2014 BTCUSD = ?
Mar 27 12:32:35 <smickles>	Schadenfreude: a no fee tx?
Mar 27 12:33:00 <jurov>	Schadenfreude: sry... seems i should raise txfee... it's 0.00001 atm
Mar 27 12:33:00 <smickles>	those seem to be taking 1 to 2 days on avg currently
Mar 27 12:33:16 <ThickAsThieves>	2014 is way to far away to predict
Mar 27 12:33:19 <ThickAsThieves>	too*
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Mar 27 12:35:13 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 88.5
Mar 27 12:35:16 <gribble>	There are currently 1048.5819 bitcoins demanded at or over 88.5 USD, worth 93100.3146358 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0062 seconds
Mar 27 12:35:19 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89
Mar 27 12:35:20 <gribble>	There are currently 776.95498 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 69124.0795319 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.6501 seconds
Mar 27 12:35:30 <Chaang-Noi>	nice, we dont see a bid wqall often
Mar 27 12:35:40 <Chaang-Noi>	88.88
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Mar 27 12:37:53 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89
Mar 27 12:37:53 <gribble>	There are currently 727.55853 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 64735.6745809 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.1093 seconds
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Mar 27 12:38:00 <Schadenfreude>	So it shouldn't come through until the day after tomorrow? Sucks
Mar 27 12:38:00 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 27 12:38:16 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89
Mar 27 12:38:16 <gribble>	There are currently 727.55853 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 64735.6745809 USD in total. | Data vintage: 56.1564 seconds
Mar 27 12:38:43 <Chaang-Noi>	;;tslb
Mar 27 12:38:45 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Mar 27 12:38:47 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 hour, 1 minute, and 55 seconds
Mar 27 12:38:54 <jcpham>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21954636
Mar 27 12:39:38 <Chaang-Noi>	88.99
Mar 27 12:39:47 <thestrin1puller>	uh
Mar 27 12:39:50 <thestrin1puller>	whoa
Mar 27 12:40:27 <Chaang-Noi>	46k btc sent in last block lol
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Mar 27 12:40:49 <Chaang-Noi>	and block size was 462??
Mar 27 12:40:53 <thestrin1puller>	millions of dollars
Mar 27 12:40:55 <thestrin1puller>	lol
Mar 27 12:40:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought that was a no no?
Mar 27 12:41:15 <thestrin1puller>	dude it took 1 hour for a block to be found
Mar 27 12:41:18 <thestrin1puller>	get over it
Mar 27 12:41:19 <thestrin1puller>	DEAL WITH IT
Mar 27 12:41:30 <Chaang-Noi>	462 kb? this will fork the chain again right?
Mar 27 12:41:49 <jborkl>	no
Mar 27 12:41:49 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm maybe not
Mar 27 12:41:55 <Chaang-Noi>	well 89
Mar 27 12:42:04 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89
Mar 27 12:42:04 <gribble>	There are currently 467.83979 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 41636.9315048 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.5033 seconds
Mar 27 12:42:15 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: that issue should be resoled
Mar 27 12:42:18 <smickles>	*resolved
Mar 27 12:42:40 <jurov>	the issue was around > 800k iirc
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Mar 27 12:43:00 <jurov>	depending on bdb config
Mar 27 12:43:15 <smickles>	there was a patch for the older clients, and the newer ones just don't care. and most of the older clients have upgraded
Mar 27 12:43:34 <smickles>	http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/branches.html
Mar 27 12:43:35 <Chaang-Noi>	okay thanks
Mar 27 12:43:48 <Chaang-Noi>	about to bust over 89
Mar 27 12:43:50 <smickles>	that charts the current client distribution
Mar 27 12:44:18 <ThickAsThieves>	hackers and spammers will be the new weather, "How's the 'net today?" "oh a little slow, big ddos in China holding the east"
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Mar 27 12:45:27 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89
Mar 27 12:45:27 <gribble>	There are currently 173.42393 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 15434.7301313 USD in total. | Data vintage: 90.7996 seconds
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Mar 27 12:47:02 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89
Mar 27 12:47:05 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 27 12:47:06 <gribble>	There are currently 6.9601388 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 619.45235676 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 27 12:47:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.99000, Best ask: 89.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 89.00000, 24 hour volume: 69625.16135317, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.61294
Mar 27 12:47:10 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 89.4
Mar 27 12:47:10 <gribble>	There are currently 227.02482 bitcoins offered at or under 89.4 USD, worth 20262.5963564 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.1871 seconds
Mar 27 12:48:14 <Chaang-Noi>	and its gone
Mar 27 12:48:22 <thestrin1puller>	;;ticker
Mar 27 12:48:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.99000, Best ask: 89.24499, Bid-ask spread: 0.25499, Last trade: 89.24500, 24 hour volume: 69606.26929719, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.61516
Mar 27 12:48:43 <Bugpowder>	I guess I should have slept in
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Mar 27 12:48:48 <Bugpowder>	wouldn't have sold at 85.5
Mar 27 12:49:29 <smickles>	it's ok Bugpowder, this is just a bubble.
Mar 27 12:49:37 <Bugpowder>	heh
Mar 27 12:49:38 <Bugpowder>	well
Mar 27 12:49:49 <deadweasel>	what was vwap when you sold?
Mar 27 12:49:58 <Bugpowder>	sold coins
Mar 27 12:50:00 <Bugpowder>	not calls
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Mar 27 12:50:10 <deadweasel>	i see
Mar 27 12:50:15 <Bugpowder>	no sense in selling calls unless vwap is dipping
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Mar 27 12:52:02 <deadweasel>	C750Ns on coinbr are ask .31 bidding .20... ......  shit I need spreadsheet.
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Mar 27 12:52:19 <Bugpowder>	Namworld has one
Mar 27 12:52:33 <deadweasel>	ya?
Mar 27 12:52:38 <Bugpowder>	yeah its pretty nice
Mar 27 12:52:54 <deadweasel>	hrm, you think he'd let a noob take look at it and possibly us it?
Mar 27 12:53:00 <Bugpowder>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGxfRk5SS0hxT1lsVmdLdU1QY0RveGc
Mar 27 12:53:14 <deadweasel>	*use
Mar 27 12:54:17 <ThickAsThieves>	mp wake up, i needs mah withdrawal :)
Mar 27 12:54:50 <ThickAsThieves>	also might need a bigger tx fee with current delays
Mar 27 12:55:10 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Mar 27 12:55:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.10000, Best ask: 89.24500, Bid-ask spread: 0.14500, Last trade: 89.01050, 24 hour volume: 69610.04605213, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 82.63423
Mar 27 12:55:42 <deadweasel>	thanks Bugpowder !
Mar 27 12:55:48 <Bugpowder>	thank Namworld
Mar 27 12:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.46500025 = 2.79 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.46500011 = 1.86 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:56:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.465 = 2.325 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:56:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.46 = 1.38 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:56:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.459 = 1.377 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:56:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.458 = 1.374 BTC [-]
Mar 27 12:56:26 <deadweasel>	well that's exactly what i needed.  Now I just gotta play with it and digest it.
Mar 27 12:56:45 <deadweasel>	Namworld: I'm looking at your spreadsheet, THANK YOU!
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Mar 27 12:59:01 <MJR_>	well while 2014 is far away, and there will be a big variance...$200?
Mar 27 12:59:14 <MJR_>	9 months out will be a crap shoot, but let's shoot some craps
Mar 27 12:59:25 <ThickAsThieves>	no point imo
Mar 27 12:59:30 <MJR_>	ok fair enough
Mar 27 13:00:15 <ThickAsThieves>	its pretty much counting your chicks before they hatch
Mar 27 13:00:41 <ThickAsThieves>	think about the last 3mos of bitcoin
Mar 27 13:00:50 <ThickAsThieves>	and then the 3mos prior
Mar 27 13:00:52 <ThickAsThieves>	and again
Mar 27 13:00:57 <MJR_>	yes exactly
Mar 27 13:01:11 <MJR_>	you have to have SOME idea of what you think is going to happen
Mar 27 13:01:18 <MJR_>	I think we'll hit 200 this year
Mar 27 13:01:22 <MJR_>	that is my price estimate
Mar 27 13:01:24 <MJR_>	at this point
Mar 27 13:01:36 <ThickAsThieves>	Up, up, up until bad news or some mega whale surfaces
Mar 27 13:01:36 <Bugpowder>	sheeit
Mar 27 13:01:38 <MJR_>	i'll revise if there is news or trends
Mar 27 13:02:05 <MJR_>	but if things continue along their current trends, i am guessing 200
Mar 27 13:02:26 <ThickAsThieves>	things could easily get exponential from here
Mar 27 13:02:46 <ThickAsThieves>	o rnot
Mar 27 13:02:49 <MJR_>	they could...that would mean we hit 200 by 2014
Mar 27 13:02:59 <ThickAsThieves>	way higher than that
Mar 27 13:03:08 <MJR_>	you can't get higher without going through 200
Mar 27 13:03:16 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Mar 27 13:03:21 <MJR_>	meaning me hit 200 on the way to something higher
Mar 27 13:03:27 <MJR_>	and i revise estimates again
Mar 27 13:03:38 <ThickAsThieves>	so you are telling me that numbers go in order?
Mar 27 13:03:38 <Chaang-Noi>	sell off?
Mar 27 13:03:40 <MJR_>	my expectations were 100 by year end
Mar 27 13:03:52 <MJR_>	and now i think that was too conservative
Mar 27 13:04:14 <ThickAsThieves>	100 in 1-10 days
Mar 27 13:04:17 <MJR_>	yes
Mar 27 13:04:17 <ThickAsThieves>	is totally possible
Mar 27 13:04:20 <MJR_>	i agree
Mar 27 13:04:27 <MJR_>	so now i need to adjust my price target
Mar 27 13:04:32 <MJR_>	given the current situation
Mar 27 13:04:36 <MJR_>	so i am guessing 200 now
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Mar 27 13:04:44 <ThickAsThieves>	for 2014?
Mar 27 13:05:05 <MJR_>	BY 2014
Mar 27 13:05:06 <ThickAsThieves>	if you are basing your target off of history, that's pretty conservative
Mar 27 13:05:20 <MJR_>	not a target of on this date...but rather BY this date
Mar 27 13:05:42 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Mar 27 13:06:25 <jurov>	90 fell
Mar 27 13:06:39 <ThickAsThieves>	it did?
Mar 27 13:06:43 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 27 13:06:44 <jurov>	no 91 fell
Mar 27 13:06:55 <jurov>	;;ticker
Mar 27 13:06:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.00000, Best ask: 88.17056, Bid-ask spread: 0.17056, Last trade: 88.17056, 24 hour volume: 69973.08329761, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 82.68129
Mar 27 13:07:01 <ThickAsThieves>	on bitfloor or sumth?
Mar 27 13:07:04 <kakobrekla>	jurov from the future
Mar 27 13:07:13 <Chaang-Noi>	jurov lol
Mar 27 13:07:16 <jurov>	o i was looking to bitfloor
Mar 27 13:07:16 <kakobrekla>	not too distant
Mar 27 13:07:35 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 90
Mar 27 13:07:35 <gribble>	There are currently 3604.954 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 323360.286725 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.8502 seconds
Mar 27 13:07:46 <Chaang-Noi>	wont be before my bedtime
Mar 27 13:07:56 <Chaang-Noi>	just dont break 100 before i wake!
Mar 27 13:09:26 <MJR_>	oh wow, bitfloor is at 91.95
Mar 27 13:09:34 <Chaang-Noi>	currently?
Mar 27 13:09:38 <MJR_>	and getting taken at that price, right now
Mar 27 13:09:46 <Chaang-Noi>	damn
Mar 27 13:09:57 <MJR_>	yep
Mar 27 13:10:02 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder: that spreadsheet tells me that all options, bought at their current price would be a loser.
Mar 27 13:10:02 <MJR_>	the bulls are rampaging today
Mar 27 13:10:22 <MJR_>	deadweasel: yep...you are buying them expecting a rise in price
Mar 27 13:10:41 <deadweasel>	but the rise is already here, so the price of them has gone up?
Mar 27 13:10:44 <MJR_>	deadweasel: also, probably you should never take the ask
Mar 27 13:10:46 <ThickAsThieves>	deadw, raise the predicted price then!
Mar 27 13:10:49 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 27 13:10:56 <deadweasel>	you mean buy btc?
Mar 27 13:10:58 <deadweasel>	:)
Mar 27 13:11:05 <MJR_>	we are limited by the top of 75C
Mar 27 13:11:08 <smickles>	$depth c750t
Mar 27 13:11:10 <mpexbot>	smickles: O.BTCUSD.C750T Bids: ['5 @ 0.11564277', '1000 @ 0.11255256']
Mar 27 13:11:11 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.24999998', '1005 @ 0.24999999']
Mar 27 13:11:13 <MJR_>	at expiration we can play up to 200
Mar 27 13:11:27 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.24999)
Mar 27 13:11:27 <gribble>	99.9986666844
Mar 27 13:11:54 <deadweasel>	so $100 to be profitable?
Mar 27 13:11:56 <smickles>	you buy c75 on it's own expecting 100 to be broken and held, currently
Mar 27 13:12:04 <deadweasel>	ok
Mar 27 13:12:09 <ThickAsThieves>	odds of hitting a 100vwap before deadline are risky
Mar 27 13:12:17 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 27 13:12:18 <gribble>	82.98
Mar 27 13:12:23 <deadweasel>	i sincerely doubt it.
Mar 27 13:12:36 <deadweasel>	also, is it 24hprc or 24vwap?  I though tit was vwap
Mar 27 13:12:42 <deadweasel>	* thought IT
Mar 27 13:12:58 <smickles>	deadweasel: bc,24hprc is the 24h vwap across all exchanges on bitcoincharts
Mar 27 13:12:59 <MJR_>	prc
Mar 27 13:13:09 <smickles>	and that's the number mpex uses
Mar 27 13:13:27 <Chaang-Noi>	Most Online Today: 2285. Most Online Ever: 3809 (June 20, 2011, 02:56:13 AM)
Mar 27 13:13:29 <MJR_>	;;bc, prc
Mar 27 13:13:30 <gribble>	Error: "bc," is not a valid command.
Mar 27 13:13:44 <deadweasel>	why is the ;;bc,24hprc different than the vwap on ;;ticker -- is it because ;;ticker is taking Gox only values?
Mar 27 13:13:58 <smickles>	ticker's vwap is just gox
Mar 27 13:14:01 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 27 13:14:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.24000, Best ask: 87.99980, Bid-ask spread: 0.75980, Last trade: 87.20000, 24 hour volume: 71455.63235364, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 82.79927
Mar 27 13:14:07 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 27 13:14:08 <gribble>	82.98
Mar 27 13:14:33 <MJR_>	yes vwap is only gox i think
Mar 27 13:15:08 <jurov>	no, it should be all exchanges
Mar 27 13:15:29 <jurov>	it was quite different fron gox-reported weighted price
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Mar 27 13:16:03 <jurov>	yes smickles is right
Mar 27 13:16:45 <deadweasel>	thanks jurov, smickles
Mar 27 13:17:15 <MJR_>	wow the subreddit has gone hockeystick i think
Mar 27 13:18:40 <MJR_>	and only 25 mill to 1 billion dollars
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Mar 27 13:22:43 <deadweasel>	MJR_: subscribers?
Mar 27 13:23:20 <benkay>	21k
Mar 27 13:25:26 <pizzaman1337>	you guys should go bet on this using my ref: http://bitbet.us/bet/206/bitcoin-market-cap-above-1-billion-before-end/?ref=1A5HtmuQzvTvhcawNFUbRH1pbQ1qY72YHR
Mar 27 13:25:36 <jurov>	unconfirmed txs increase by 200-300/hour
Mar 27 13:27:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Mar 27 13:27:27 <gribble>	Time since last block: 38 minutes and 3 seconds
Mar 27 13:27:33 <jborkl>	3600 waiting transactions
Mar 27 13:27:44 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe it's this internet slowdown news?
Mar 27 13:28:04 <deadweasel>	how do you get a ref, pizzaman1337 ?
Mar 27 13:28:04 <MJR_>	deadweasel: 21,779
Mar 27 13:28:25 <MJR_>	which is 2,000 more than like a day or two ago i think
Mar 27 13:28:26 <pizzaman1337>	deadweasel: http://bitbet.us/faq/#43
Mar 27 13:29:09 <deadweasel>	well that is simple and awesome!
Mar 27 13:29:21 <deadweasel>	MJR_: that is a nice increase.
Mar 27 13:32:28 <deadweasel>	pizzaman1337: done!  :)
Mar 27 13:32:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10893 @ 0.00061253 = 6.6723 BTC [+]
Mar 27 13:33:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 13:33:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.36201, Best ask: 87.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.51799, Last trade: 87.88000, 24 hour volume: 71664.46749013, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 82.96333
Mar 27 13:33:21 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 27 13:33:22 <gribble>	1.501887 seconds
Mar 27 13:33:32 <pizzaman1337>	deadweasel: :)
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Mar 27 13:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.593 = 1.779 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 13:58:41 <bgupta>	ASICMINER raising hashing target from 50TH for second batch to 200TH!!
Mar 27 13:59:11 <bgupta>	(slightly lowering divs for the next three weeks to fund the extra capacity)
Mar 27 13:59:17 <kakobrekla>	lol bitcoind
Mar 27 13:59:24 <kakobrekla>	asks for password via gui for new addy
Mar 27 13:59:27 <kakobrekla>	but not via console
Mar 27 13:59:28 <kakobrekla>	ftw
Mar 27 14:01:00 <bgupta>	ah nvm misread.. the 2nd batch is still 50TH, but he is putting together a 3rd batch of 200TH.
Mar 27 14:01:26 <bgupta>	err third batch of 150TH.
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Mar 27 14:03:09 <Uglux>	http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/026/futuramafry.jpg
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Mar 27 14:04:41 <MJR_>	hope the price falls, i'd love to scoop up more asicminer
Mar 27 14:05:46 <jurov>	you can in turn lend it to mp :)
Mar 27 14:06:49 <bgupta>	well.. not sure how far shorting would go.. I don't believe anyone owns these shares on margin, so guessing not too many weak hands.
Mar 27 14:07:40 <MJR_>	i wouldn't be shorting
Mar 27 14:07:48 <MJR_>	just trying to get best price
Mar 27 14:10:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
Mar 27 14:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.593 BTC [+]
Mar 27 14:13:15 <bgupta>	The problem as I see it is that if someone wants to get in on btc without too much work, they have three choices 1) buy btc 2) buy mining gear 3) buy mining stocks. As long as AM is leading the metrics, it will carry a premium and be a go to investment, since modern mining gear that will last more than a month or so, can't really be easily had.
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Mar 27 14:14:11 <bgupta>	(and owning plain btc seems less interesting)
Mar 27 14:17:27 <bgupta>	I'll admit that AM probably has from a strict value investment pov prolly gotten ahead of itself.. but it's a better deal than a) owning fiat, b) building/ordering rigs now, c) other mining stocks.
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Mar 27 14:18:03 <bgupta>	and certainly less risky than leverage plays.
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Mar 27 14:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.593 = 1.186 BTC [+]
Mar 27 14:19:18 <bgupta>	any one know how much each BFL chip produces Hashrate wise?
Mar 27 14:19:23 <ThickAsThieves>	0
Mar 27 14:19:54 <bgupta>	in theory I mean… IE Full prod run is something like 70k+ chips.
Mar 27 14:20:13 <bgupta>	want to know how many TH we are looking at if they ever ship.
Mar 27 14:20:28 <bgupta>	(Obviously if they ship it will take a long time to clear backlog)
Mar 27 14:21:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-]
Mar 27 14:21:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 49 @ 0.68 = 33.32 BTC [-]
Mar 27 14:21:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno, 0 looks like a real possiility right now
Mar 27 14:22:00 <KRS-1>	heh
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Mar 27 14:22:07 *	KRS-1 looks at his preorder..
Mar 27 14:22:19 <bgupta>	they wouldn't still be taking orders.. if it was 0..
Mar 27 14:22:39 <ThickAsThieves>	why not?
Mar 27 14:22:42 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 27 14:23:07 <ThickAsThieves>	for example, what if their chip design simply doesnt work
Mar 27 14:23:08 <KRS-1>	I have a preorder as a money transfer request to BFL's bank..looks like it has a preorder number on it, but never sent the transfer..they say it will hold my position though...I wonder.
Mar 27 14:23:22 <ThickAsThieves>	and they are just not admitting yet
Mar 27 14:23:28 <ThickAsThieves>	and then they go back to drawing board
Mar 27 14:23:31 <ThickAsThieves>	for 3+mos
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Mar 27 14:30:36 <bgupta>	I'm expecting them to ship by June.
Mar 27 14:30:50 <bgupta>	err by some time in June
Mar 27 14:31:03 <bgupta>	closer to June than now.
Mar 27 14:31:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i suspect there really is a big problem with their system
Mar 27 14:31:16 <ThickAsThieves>	assuming its not just a scam
Mar 27 14:32:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 14:32:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 27 14:32:41 <KRS-1>	I heard June today myself.
Mar 27 14:32:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bueller
Mar 27 14:32:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bueller
Mar 27 14:32:56 <KRS-1>	SAVE FERRIS
Mar 27 14:33:03 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 27 14:33:34 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: your AM div guess was a bit low
Mar 27 14:33:38 <dub>	er high
Mar 27 14:33:47 <ThickAsThieves>	only a little
Mar 27 14:34:09 <ThickAsThieves>	21% off :)
Mar 27 14:34:17 <dub>	what the fuck is with this esnding satoshis idiocy
Mar 27 14:34:22 <ThickAsThieves>	this is the nature of guesses
Mar 27 14:34:47 <ThickAsThieves>	at this point i'm not sure
Mar 27 14:34:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont see what it solves
Mar 27 14:35:11 <dub>	chinese logic
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Mar 27 14:35:47 <bgupta>	Hard to know that friedcat was going to choose this period of time to invest in another 150TH of gear. his guess prolly would have been better had they not.
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Mar 27 14:35:59 <bgupta>	actually it would have been low in that case..
Mar 27 14:36:24 <ThickAsThieves>	chinese proverb say “If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. Peace is only found in the present.”
Mar 27 14:38:05 <ThickAsThieves>	we're approaching the first wall to get to 90
Mar 27 14:38:11 <ThickAsThieves>	can we save the princess?
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Mar 27 14:41:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Mar 27 14:41:23 <bgupta>	Walls/spoons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzm8kTIj_0M
Mar 27 14:41:26 <ThickAsThieves>	:(
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Mar 27 14:45:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.11119 = 0.556 BTC [-]
Mar 27 14:46:02 <ThickAsThieves>	$1 spread
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Mar 27 14:51:05 <smickles>	o.btc
Mar 27 14:51:16 <MJR_>	that DDoS is crazy
Mar 27 14:51:21 <MJR_>	300Gbps
Mar 27 14:51:29 <[\\\]>	who is getting it now?
Mar 27 14:51:31 <smickles>	oh? where?
Mar 27 14:51:50 <MJR_>	apparently cyberbunker is where the ddos is originating
Mar 27 14:51:55 <MJR_>	but it is targeted at spamhaus
Mar 27 14:52:07 <MJR_>	unfortunately they are leveraging dns servers
Mar 27 14:52:12 <MJR_>	so some people are getting slow downs
Mar 27 14:52:30 <ThickAsThieves>	tx cnfs are slow
Mar 27 14:52:33 <Bugpowder>	spamhaus should redirect to whitehouse.gov
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Mar 27 14:53:09 <MJR_>	thats a quick way to get someone to notice
Mar 27 14:53:11 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 27 14:53:26 <MJR_>	i really want to see an alternate mesh network spring up
Mar 27 14:53:35 <MJR_>	with community owned hardware
Mar 27 14:54:19 <ThickAsThieves>	redirect them to litecoin
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Mar 27 14:54:43 <ThickAsThieves>	hellooooo gribble
Mar 27 14:54:45 <smickles>	MJR_: I've heard the meshnet in seatle is pretty good
Mar 27 14:54:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
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Mar 27 14:59:22 <iz>	;;ticker
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Mar 27 15:03:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 75 @ 0.00414 = 0.3105 BTC [+]
Mar 27 15:08:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0044799 = 8.9598 BTC [+]
Mar 27 15:08:13 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
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Mar 27 15:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Mar 27 15:09:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.45700001 = 1.371 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:09:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.457 = 1.371 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:09:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.456 = 1.368 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:09:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.455 = 4.095 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:10:10 <MJR_>	97.60 ask on bitfloor...it could hit 100 there today
Mar 27 15:10:14 <MJR_>	lol
Mar 27 15:10:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 591 @ 0.00448 = 2.6477 BTC [+]
Mar 27 15:10:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5409 @ 0.00448 = 24.2323 BTC [+]
Mar 27 15:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.455 = 5.005 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.455 = 1.365 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:11:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.454 = 1.362 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:11:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4531 = 1.3593 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:11:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.45205 = 1.3562 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:11:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.452 = 1.356 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:11:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.451 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:11:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 33 @ 0.45 = 14.85 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:11:30 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe havelock sdice will finally come down to market
Mar 27 15:11:59 <topace>	its been preetty close lately
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Mar 27 15:12:55 <MJR_>	smickles: I am going to have to look at that...nyc should have had one a long time ago
Mar 27 15:13:49 <ThickAsThieves>	topace, any chance of integrating with coinbr?
Mar 27 15:14:08 <topace>	integrating what ?
Mar 27 15:14:14 <ThickAsThieves>	pushing shares
Mar 27 15:14:19 <ThickAsThieves>	of sdice
Mar 27 15:14:30 <topace>	from havelock to coinbr? or from coinbr to havelock ?
Mar 27 15:14:48 <topace>	i suppose either is possible
Mar 27 15:14:53 <ThickAsThieves>	both
Mar 27 15:15:21 <topace>	i'd have to talk to jurov about the implementation detaisl
Mar 27 15:15:27 <topace>	but yea, anything is possible
Mar 27 15:15:40 <ThickAsThieves>	might be overkill for one asset, but it would be nice
Mar 27 15:16:00 <topace>	it only works for mpex becuase mpex issues a gpg signed receipt that i can verify and ensure uniqueness on
Mar 27 15:16:19 <jurov>	well, such functionality is on hold at the moment
Mar 27 15:16:56 <MJR_>	hmmm...
Mar 27 15:16:57 <jurov>	cause i don't trust the engine it's 100% reliable
Mar 27 15:17:01 <jurov>	yet
Mar 27 15:17:05 <MJR_>	if the prc goes to 100 the 75 calls are worth it
Mar 27 15:17:16 <jurov>	so i can do the transfers manually on request
Mar 27 15:17:23 <ThickAsThieves>	worth it? or break even?
Mar 27 15:17:28 <MJR_>	worth it
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Mar 27 15:17:52 <MJR_>	nah break even
Mar 27 15:17:55 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 27 15:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.45 = 3.15 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:18:05 <MJR_>	maybe very very slightly worth it
Mar 27 15:18:06 <Bugpowder>	worth it, just barely.
Mar 27 15:18:09 <topace>	jurov: well if you ever get a request to push or pull from havelock, lemme know, we can do it manually
Mar 27 15:18:16 <Bugpowder>	1 satoshi
Mar 27 15:18:35 <jurov>	i can use normal havelock interface, that;s not a problem
Mar 27 15:19:14 <jurov>	just on my side checks need to be done
Mar 27 15:19:21 <topace>	to push to havelock yea, our normal "paste the mpex receipt" will work fine.
Mar 27 15:19:50 <MJR_>	what is the link to see expected sdice dividends?
Mar 27 15:20:01 <topace>	if i get a request from someone to push from havelcok to coinbr, how would i go about that ?
Mar 27 15:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.44 = 4.4 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:20:03 <ThickAsThieves>	it's 0 mjr
Mar 27 15:20:08 <ThickAsThieves>	for this month
Mar 27 15:20:40 <jurov>	topace, contact me then or send email (support@coinbr.com has gpg key published proper)
Mar 27 15:20:47 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.0 <--- mjr
Mar 27 15:20:55 <topace>	kk
Mar 27 15:21:06 <topace>	(not that i've ever had a request, but good to know)
Mar 27 15:21:18 <jurov>	yes, it's not requested so often
Mar 27 15:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.593 = 5.93 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 15:23:24 <MJR_>	thanks ThickAsThieves
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Mar 27 15:26:40 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: so it looks like no dividends this month?
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Mar 27 15:32:27 <ThickAsThieves>	correct
Mar 27 15:32:59 <Bugpowder>	gawd damnit
Mar 27 15:33:01 <Bugpowder>	sdice
Mar 27 15:34:30 <MJR_>	ah well...i am thinking of doubling down
Mar 27 15:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.593 = 1.779 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 15:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 46 @ 0.00415002 = 0.1909 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 165 @ 0.00415001 = 0.6848 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 9540 @ 0.00388018 = 37.0169 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:40:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0038801 = 3.8801 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00387779 = 3.8778 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:40:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00385207 = 3.8521 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00385206 = 38.5206 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 176 @ 0.0036 = 0.6336 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:40:56 <ThickAsThieves>	aww
Mar 27 15:41:02 <ThickAsThieves>	should left my bids up
Mar 27 15:41:08 <Bugpowder>	put them back up
Mar 27 15:41:14 <ThickAsThieves>	you selling?
Mar 27 15:41:15 <Bugpowder>	theres more where that came from
Mar 27 15:41:39 <ThickAsThieves>	my btc is all tied up waiting for mp now
Mar 27 15:42:30 <Bugpowder>	heh
Mar 27 15:42:31 <Bugpowder>	ok
Mar 27 15:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.432 BTC [+]
Mar 27 15:45:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:45:25 <ThickAsThieves>	or maybe i'll just help incite a crash on the PTs....
Mar 27 15:46:02 <Bugpowder>	Well
Mar 27 15:46:08 <Bugpowder>	Selling for .003999
Mar 27 15:46:34 <Bugpowder>	The pain of this loss will be healed by the call profits.
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Mar 27 15:47:00 <MJR_>	well...there are two choices now with sdice if you got in after the first ipo
Mar 27 15:47:16 <MJR_>	you give up, take your losses...throw the btc you have into a bond or something
Mar 27 15:47:24 <MJR_>	or double down on sdice
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Mar 27 15:47:34 <MJR_>	as the price drops when others pursue strategy 1
Mar 27 15:47:41 <MJR_>	and then reap some great dividend in april maybe
Mar 27 15:47:41 <Bugpowder>	I think its a great value at .00399999
Mar 27 15:47:47 <MJR_>	hey i agree
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Mar 27 15:48:19 <Bugpowder>	I'm just impatient
Mar 27 15:48:39 <deadweasel>	is there a mechanism in place for SDICE to repay stockholders in the event MPEX somehow dies? (i'm not saying this is going to happen, I"m asking if there is a strategy)
Mar 27 15:48:46 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 27 15:48:48 <Bugpowder>	well
Mar 27 15:48:55 <Bugpowder>	we know who the shareholders are
Mar 27 15:48:56 <ThickAsThieves>	depth is shit on PTS
Mar 27 15:49:00 <Bugpowder>	if mpex dies
Mar 27 15:49:02 <ThickAsThieves>	PTs*
Mar 27 15:49:04 <deadweasel>	ok.
Mar 27 15:49:26 <Bugpowder>	The complete account contents are available as a gpg encrypted file
Mar 27 15:49:30 <Bugpowder>	of all users
Mar 27 15:49:39 <Bugpowder>	I have an old copy somewhere
Mar 27 15:50:13 <deadweasel>	awesome.  would passthroughs continue to operate?
Mar 27 15:50:25 <Bugpowder>	i dunno
Mar 27 15:50:28 <Bugpowder>	don't see why not
Mar 27 15:50:32 <deadweasel>	me either
Mar 27 15:50:34 <KRS-1>	what are the s.dice dividends like
Mar 27 15:50:42 <Bugpowder>	0
Mar 27 15:50:44 <Bugpowder>	this month
Mar 27 15:50:58 <KRS-1>	well..granted.
Mar 27 15:51:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i seriously wanna murder godaddy
Mar 27 15:51:31 <deadweasel>	why are you doing business with them?  namecheap.com
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Mar 27 15:52:22 <ThickAsThieves>	not me, a client
Mar 27 15:52:28 <deadweasel>	oh lord, i'm sorry.
Mar 27 15:52:40 <ThickAsThieves>	its virtually impossible to get this to transfet
Mar 27 15:52:48 <ThickAsThieves>	so i gave up and decided to renew
Mar 27 15:52:49 <ThickAsThieves>	well
Mar 27 15:52:57 <ThickAsThieves>	now there's this package stuck to it
Mar 27 15:52:59 <deadweasel>	they make it difficult on purpose.  they implemented this during SOPA, when namecheap starteds stealing their customers
Mar 27 15:53:01 <ThickAsThieves>	that cannot be removed
Mar 27 15:53:26 <ThickAsThieves>	they want $40!
Mar 27 15:53:29 <MJR_>	yeah, hate godaddy
Mar 27 15:53:56 <ThickAsThieves>	but if call them, i will surely lose $40+ in life force from stress
Mar 27 15:54:04 <MJR_>	i registered 3 domains on namecheap (btcshares, btc-etf, bitcoin-etf) like 1 week before they announced accepting bitcoins
Mar 27 15:54:22 <MJR_>	$40 is a good deal... :(
Mar 27 15:54:25 <Bugpowder>	lucky you
Mar 27 15:54:35 <MJR_>	Bugpowder: i wish i coiuld have paid in btc
Mar 27 15:54:40 <Bugpowder>	uhhh
Mar 27 15:54:41 <deadweasel>	MJR_: you made money by not using BTC for that
Mar 27 15:54:49 <MJR_>	yes...
Mar 27 15:54:52 <MJR_>	i am aware
Mar 27 15:55:01 <MJR_>	but i like to support btc based businesses
Mar 27 15:55:09 <MJR_>	or ones who accept
Mar 27 15:55:29 <deadweasel>	me too, i hear ya.   I paid for VPN with BTC.
Mar 27 15:55:37 <MJR_>	eventually anyone who sells at $100 will be like i could have waited for a million
Mar 27 15:56:04 <deadweasel>	but todays rate i paid 300$ for 1 year of VPN
Mar 27 15:56:11 <MJR_>	yeah...
Mar 27 15:56:14 <deadweasel>	:)
Mar 27 15:56:15 <deadweasel>	it's ok
Mar 27 15:56:17 <deadweasel>	we're helping
Mar 27 15:56:19 <MJR_>	this is all more accounting than anything else
Mar 27 15:56:22 <deadweasel>	ourselves be poor
Mar 27 15:56:22 <MJR_>	yes
Mar 27 15:56:29 <deadweasel>	true
Mar 27 15:56:35 <MJR_>	and after all....i may lose out on paper profits
Mar 27 15:56:49 <MJR_>	but i have never payed close to 80 for a bitcoin
Mar 27 15:56:50 <deadweasel>	you may.  we all might.
Mar 27 15:57:07 <MJR_>	think last time i dumped fiat was at 49
Mar 27 15:57:11 <deadweasel>	lol, i bought 5 at $67 in the dip, just because I hpe for BTCUSD at $1000
Mar 27 15:57:17 <deadweasel>	:)(
Mar 27 15:57:34 <MJR_>	i bought at 26...that was my biggest buy, it was around 30 or so
Mar 27 15:57:34 <deadweasel>	gotta go ya'll, thanks for all the help today with the options OIX!  many thanks!
Mar 27 15:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:58:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.422 = 1.266 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:58:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42150001 = 0.843 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:58:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.4215 = 3.372 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:58:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.41 = 1.23 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:58:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4002 = 0.8004 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4002 = 1.2006 BTC [-]
Mar 27 15:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.4001 = 2.8007 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 16:01:27 <ThickAsThieves>	time to unleash hell on an innocent customer support person...
Mar 27 16:19:01 <Ukto>	new asset launched https://bitfunder.com/asset/btcQuick
Mar 27 16:19:15 <Ukto>	over 250btc sold (half) within the first few minutes
Mar 27 16:20:19 <KRS-1>	lol
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Mar 27 16:22:14 <ThickAsThieves>	this IPO is actually not a joke, whaddaya know
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Mar 27 16:26:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009994 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Mar 27 16:28:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00349 BTC [-]
Mar 27 16:28:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 233 @ 0.0035 = 0.8155 BTC [+]
Mar 27 16:30:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.672002 = 8.736 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 16:39:46 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 27 16:39:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.20004, Best ask: 88.48899, Bid-ask spread: 0.28895, Last trade: 88.48899, 24 hour volume: 72845.53914176, 24 hour low: 77.13000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 84.05146
Mar 27 16:39:52 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b4l6d/bitcoin_red_pill/c93iswr
Mar 27 16:39:59 <smickles>	^^ indicates top
Mar 27 16:40:34 <awkorama>	huh??
Mar 27 16:42:40 <TomServo>	Haha...a financial system without fraud.  That's going great so far.
Mar 27 16:42:40 <jurov>	financial system without fraud and corruption. nailed it.
Mar 27 16:42:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [+]
Mar 27 16:43:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [+]
Mar 27 16:44:16 <deadweasel>	who runs bitfunder?
Mar 27 16:44:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7000 @ 0.00399999 = 27.9999 BTC [+]
Mar 27 16:44:18 <Bugpowder>	hooo
Mar 27 16:44:19 <Bugpowder>	funny
Mar 27 16:44:28 <Bugpowder>	Ukto:
Mar 27 16:44:33 <deadweasel>	ah, that's right, thx
Mar 27 16:45:12 <Ukto>	:)
Mar 27 16:47:47 <deadweasel>	coinbr is donw jurov?
Mar 27 16:48:03 <deadweasel>	nope, back up, was getting 503 for a minute
Mar 27 16:48:50 <MJR_>	smickles: you could say the system doesn't have fraud, though fraudulent people use it
Mar 27 16:48:54 <smickles>	Anyone want some P750T?
Mar 27 16:49:01 *	jurov looks
Mar 27 16:49:16 <MJR_>	no one would say the dollar is fraudulent because bernie madoff took dollars
Mar 27 16:49:24 <deadweasel>	depends on the price, smickles
Mar 27 16:49:26 <MJR_>	its fraudulent because it is artificially inflated
Mar 27 16:49:26 <deadweasel>	:)
Mar 27 16:49:27 <smickles>	MJR_: this basically reminded me of the falkvinge all in
Mar 27 16:49:44 <smickles>	deadweasel: ~.019 currently
Mar 27 16:50:08 <ThickAsThieves>	not too bad
Mar 27 16:50:53 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume you meant .19
Mar 27 16:52:53 <Bugpowder>	nah hement .019
Mar 27 16:52:58 <Bugpowder>	thats actually a good price
Mar 27 16:53:23 <ThickAsThieves>	oh i missed the P
Mar 27 16:53:31 <ThickAsThieves>	my bad
Mar 27 16:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 30 @ 0.01889435 = 0.5668 BTC [-]
Mar 27 16:54:01 <smickles>	:D
Mar 27 16:56:17 <deadweasel>	oh yeah, I missed the P too.  jesus, I'm gonna get eaten alive if I start trading options.  balls.
Mar 27 16:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.401 = 4.01 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 16:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-]
Mar 27 16:59:05 <topace>	anyone know why mtgoxlive.com hasnt worked in ages?
Mar 27 16:59:21 <Bugpowder>	i didn't notice
Mar 27 16:59:25 <Bugpowder>	now that bitcoinity is back
Mar 27 16:59:27 <Bugpowder>	who cares
Mar 27 16:59:39 <topace>	hehe true i've been using bitcoinity lately too
Mar 27 16:59:43 <ThickAsThieves>	top i had it working yesterday
Mar 27 16:59:44 <Bugpowder>	or http://markets.blockchain.info
Mar 27 16:59:47 <topace>	but sometimes i like the mtgoxlive chart just to have open
Mar 27 16:59:53 <ThickAsThieves>	but i dont like it anymore either
Mar 27 17:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [-]
Mar 27 17:00:07 <dub>	I cant edit my system path because FUCKEN SKURITY
Mar 27 17:00:08 <Bugpowder>	it takes WAY too much CPU
Mar 27 17:00:21 <dub>	must resist urge to choke these fucks
Mar 27 17:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... what's new
Mar 27 17:00:49 <Bugpowder>	lol
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Mar 27 17:01:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 17:01:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.50108, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49892, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 70885.65101480, 24 hour low: 77.90000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 84.33496
Mar 27 17:02:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet-security/9957063/Web-slows-under-biggest-attack-ever.html
Mar 27 17:02:08 <Bugpowder>	ya
Mar 27 17:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	apparently everyone's being probed.
Mar 27 17:02:20 <TomServo>	blockchain.info is reporting 2333 unconfirmed transactions, not sure if that's accurate
Mar 27 17:02:56 <Bugpowder>	I finally decided tiberius is an idiot
Mar 27 17:03:15 <Bugpowder>	ooooooo
Mar 27 17:03:19 <Bugpowder>	rally
Mar 27 17:03:20 <ThickAsThieves>	yay!
Mar 27 17:03:37 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo kinda
Mar 27 17:03:51 <MJR_>	Bugpowder: why did it take this long? did i miss something?
Mar 27 17:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	there's been a pool of 2-5k waiting txs since about 3 months ago
Mar 27 17:03:57 <TomServo>	Oh?
Mar 27 17:04:16 <MJR_>	lol, also its funny
Mar 27 17:04:23 <MJR_>	once everyone moves to bitcoinity
Mar 27 17:04:28 <MJR_>	it starts slowing down and fucking up
Mar 27 17:04:38 <MJR_>	i think the fact that blockchain info has a proxy too now
Mar 27 17:04:39 <Bugpowder>	that would be mpex hosting ;)
Mar 27 17:04:56 <MJR_>	nah, its just that everyone slammed clarkmoody
Mar 27 17:05:00 <MJR_>	so it stopped working
Mar 27 17:05:08 <MJR_>	then moved to mtgoxlive so it stopped working
Mar 27 17:05:27 <MJR_>	and now bitcoinity is really slow and the bottom chart disappears and needs to be reloaded
Mar 27 17:06:16 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder omg hater.
Mar 27 17:06:39 <Bugpowder>	he know some stuff
Mar 27 17:06:46 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> there's been a pool of 2-5k waiting txs since about 3 months ago << that's a bit misleading, it's not like there are unconfirmed txns that have been waiting that long
Mar 27 17:06:48 <Bugpowder>	he has a general framework and understanding
Mar 27 17:06:51 <dub>	tbh the anti spam industry is full of retarded fuckwits that deserve to die
Mar 27 17:07:10 <Bugpowder>	but he is half blind
Mar 27 17:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	smickles a no, i just mean there's a sort of pool for the cheapskates who won't add a fee
Mar 27 17:07:21 <Bugpowder>	also one of the biggest douches I have come across
Mar 27 17:07:23 <dub>	they are mostly hillbillies with no operational experience
Mar 27 17:07:24 <smickles>	maybe just the way i read it tho
Mar 27 17:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	what's the avg for a nofee tx to make it to a block by now, 12 hours ?
Mar 27 17:07:39 <mircea_popescu>	dub totally.
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Mar 27 17:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	dub that they're clueless/stupid is not even the main problem. they're crooked.
Mar 27 17:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	as in, selling access to  spammers. they're not the antispam industry, they're the spam apportioning industry.
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Mar 27 17:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> but he is half blind << i still think he's trying the "i am king of the world you must play my little debate games on my terms for me to understand the world or else it won't be understood by one such as me to its detriment" sillyness
Mar 27 17:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	i blame his mother.
Mar 27 17:09:29 <jurov>	quite a mayhem ensued on #bitfunder, Ukto dropped another IPO
Mar 27 17:09:37 <jurov>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/btcQuick
Mar 27 17:09:43 <mircea_popescu>	dropped what's that ?
Mar 27 17:09:46 <mircea_popescu>	like canned it ?
Mar 27 17:09:48 <Bugpowder>	launched
Mar 27 17:09:48 <Ukto>	_I_ didnt drop it..
Mar 27 17:09:51 <Ukto>	btcQuick did
Mar 27 17:09:54 <Bugpowder>	right?
Mar 27 17:09:55 <Ukto>	-_-
Mar 27 17:09:57 <jurov>	put it in place without pre announcement
Mar 27 17:10:06 <Ukto>	for all I know..with another issuer going nuts wanting to launch
Mar 27 17:10:11 <Ukto>	there might even be another today
Mar 27 17:10:12 <Ukto>	or tomorrow
Mar 27 17:10:20 <Ukto>	and he hasnt made any secret of it
Mar 27 17:10:31 <jurov>	lol, so i will make another 20% on it?
Mar 27 17:10:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 27 17:10:37 <ThickAsThieves>	isnt announcement up to the issuer?
Mar 27 17:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	what's these things even do ?
Mar 27 17:10:51 <ThickAsThieves>	they take credit cards
Mar 27 17:10:52 <jurov>	(i just sold call option to namworld expiring today)
Mar 27 17:10:56 <ThickAsThieves>	to buy btc
Mar 27 17:11:00 <smickles>	quickbtc is bitcoin for google wallet
Mar 27 17:11:13 <Ukto>	they have an excellent history/rep :)
Mar 27 17:11:20 <Bugpowder>	I use my google wallet all the fucking time
Mar 27 17:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	how is bitcoin for google wallet supposed to make money ?
Mar 27 17:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	you do ?
Mar 27 17:11:32 <Bugpowder>	no
Mar 27 17:11:33 <mircea_popescu>	i thought google wallet is like wave.
Mar 27 17:11:36 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: he sells btc using google checkout
Mar 27 17:11:38 <Ukto>	that is
Mar 27 17:11:41 <ThickAsThieves>	apparently they defeated a huge chargeback attempt
Mar 27 17:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	so i get email
Mar 27 17:11:59 <Ukto>	they do a special membership thing, to get ppl identified
Mar 27 17:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	"Mr. M. Barlow 	6:46 am	!	BUSINESS."
Mar 27 17:12:07 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: i get email too :D
Mar 27 17:12:09 <Bugpowder>	when are people going to get that bitcoin is bad for microtransactions
Mar 27 17:12:14 <Ukto>	smickles: LOL
Mar 27 17:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	smickles yours is prolly better.
Mar 27 17:12:35 <Bugpowder>	the container of shoes vs. the shoe analogy is good
Mar 27 17:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder never, because i said it, and i'm a sociopathic arrogant evil guy.
Mar 27 17:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.439 BTC [+]
Mar 27 17:13:33 <Bugpowder>	I'm still waiting 3 weeks for a response to my inquires about where my earphones are from the bitcoinstore
Mar 27 17:13:36 <Bugpowder>	4.4BTC
Mar 27 17:13:38 <Bugpowder>	gone
Mar 27 17:13:41 <smickles>	damn
Mar 27 17:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	o wait, my email gets better. "We noticed that you haven't signed in to your eBay account for quite some time, and we'd like to invite you back to buy and sell again. eBay's a great place to buy what you want, and sell what you have."
Mar 27 17:14:00 <Bugpowder>	10% fees now on ebay
Mar 27 17:14:05 <Bugpowder>	insane
Mar 27 17:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	not like... "hey, we notice we suck because we're douches" but "we notice we're so incredibly great"
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Mar 27 17:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.439 BTC [+]
Mar 27 17:15:58 <Ukto>	Bugpowder: 20%+ on ebay depending on category
Mar 27 17:16:02 <Ukto>	plus 3% to pp
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Mar 27 17:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	ridiculous.
Mar 27 17:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	when do we get a bitcoin ebay killer already ?
Mar 27 17:17:21 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be something worth ipoing.
Mar 27 17:23:12 <smickles>	"MPEx will never list anything which mircea is not a majority shareholder"
Mar 27 17:23:15 <smickles>	:D
Mar 27 17:23:37 <jurov>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5f2e6c77f8ae4bf16888289715057650abb8d69bb81c889f36665505
Mar 27 17:23:39 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7
Mar 27 17:23:44 <smickles>	from special T
Mar 27 17:24:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 26 @ 0.00399999 = 0.104 BTC [+]
Mar 27 17:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	heh that's bull. sure it will.
Mar 27 17:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	wait, what ?! i'm not a majority shareholder in most
Mar 27 17:24:59 <smickles>	but we can't believe you because you're romainian
Mar 27 17:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Mar 27 17:25:27 <mircea_popescu>	so basically mpex makes more dough than all the exchanges combined but we can't believe this cause i'm evil.
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Mar 27 17:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	works for me srsly.
Mar 27 17:25:50 <smickles>	and you live in the good part of romainia, so you're an extra good scammer
Mar 27 17:26:00 <jurov>	hahaha
Mar 27 17:26:35 <smickles>	i'm simplifying what he said, but the spirit is there, imo
Mar 27 17:26:40 <mircea_popescu>	yes. logic, it comes in bottles now.
Mar 27 17:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	but it's funny you know, the assumptions people make who are ignorant of history.
Mar 27 17:27:16 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: no cryprian atm bombs near you lately ?
Mar 27 17:27:24 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe was here before bitcoinica. what's that matter tho if you're born march 2013
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Mar 27 17:27:46 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto romania is actually in such a good position i prefer keeping lei to euro.
Mar 27 17:27:58 <Ukto>	ahhh
Mar 27 17:28:04 <Ukto>	i just ment angry mob wise
Mar 27 17:28:10 <Ukto>	not neccesarily funds :)
Mar 27 17:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	not rly. not much cause to get angry rly.
Mar 27 17:28:26 <smickles>	they blew up your atm, tho
Mar 27 17:28:27 <Ukto>	i didnt think there would be many angry cyprians
Mar 27 17:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	see, here's a thing : romania is ~20mn people and holds ~120 tons of gold.
Mar 27 17:29:03 <smickles>	funny sorta-similar-bank-name's atm
Mar 27 17:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	non-germany yurp is like 300mn people holds what, 1000 tons ?
Mar 27 17:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	smickles ya lol
Mar 27 17:29:32 <Bugpowder>	dont forget the ETFs!
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Mar 27 17:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder no this is actual gold. romania is lucky in that the natl bank governor is literally the brightest mind in the field atm.
Mar 27 17:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	think greenspan, except he gets a romanian deal, whereby he owns that chair and ocasionally gets to be the prime minister.
Mar 27 17:30:47 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: are you planning to coopt him?
Mar 27 17:30:51 <mircea_popescu>	dude owns the joint.
Mar 27 17:30:52 <Bugpowder>	Santelli is not happy with gold anymore
Mar 27 17:30:53 <smickles>	!last c750t
Mar 27 17:30:53 <assbot>	I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
Mar 27 17:31:07 <smickles>	!last o.btcusd.c750t
Mar 27 17:31:07 <assbot>	It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
Mar 27 17:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	jurov no. we can't coopt each other sadly, but honestly he's smart enough.
Mar 27 17:31:13 <smickles>	@.@
Mar 27 17:31:19 <smickles>	$vwap oix
Mar 27 17:31:21 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 77.33064121 high: 81.26895624 low: 48.45744947 volume: 71439 btc: 8379.0230226 30 day: no data
Mar 27 17:31:29 <Bugpowder>	"securitization of gold has killed it as an ayn rand end-game currency"
Mar 27 17:31:39 <jborkl>	assbot> I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. < I like that assbot
Mar 27 17:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	ya but on the other hand... securitization of gold is unavoidable.
Mar 27 17:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	gold has serious issues that don't go away just cause we'd wish them to.
Mar 27 17:32:16 <dub>	"if the internet felt a bit more sluggish for you over the last few days in Europe, this may be part of the reason why."
Mar 27 17:32:24 <dub>	well derp
Mar 27 17:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 27 17:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	dub you broke the interwebers ?
Mar 27 17:32:34 <dub>	reaching europ from th einternet has always been sluggish
Mar 27 17:32:41 <jurov>	gold issues will be overcome when we get teleportation tech :D
Mar 27 17:32:57 <mircea_popescu>	jurov and fingers become silky smooth.
Mar 27 17:33:01 <smickles>	*non-destructive teleportation tech
Mar 27 17:33:33 *	mircea_popescu envisions a teleportation future where conspiracy party explains how "if you teleport your gold it's not really YOUR gold you're getting"
Mar 27 17:33:58 <Bugpowder>	I recommend drinking aqueous gold so that you can incorporate it within your essential bodily tissues
Mar 27 17:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	eh don't do that.
Mar 27 17:34:17 <jurov>	and get killed to harvest it, eya?
Mar 27 17:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	some idiot is going to go "brain surgeon researcher guy recommended this toxioc stupid process"
Mar 27 17:34:50 <smickles>	oh that's right, Bugpowder you have a position of responsibility
Mar 27 17:34:54 <smickles>	ಠ_ಠ
Mar 27 17:35:11 <Bugpowder>	http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://clickholistic.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/abc_blue_man_080731_mn.jpg&imgrefurl=http://clickholistic.wordpress.com/tag/colloidal-silver-poisoning/&h=240&w=320&sz=36&tbnid=HzKWTCR-YgvOCM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__ycCjQN_E6ccnuMvacF9N3UmwywM=&docid=tLtWeQ4peOSVDM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9mVTUaypBNTH4AOipICoBg&sqi=2&ved=0CEgQ9QEwBA&dur=320
Mar 27 17:35:29 <Bugpowder>	dero
Mar 27 17:35:31 <jurov>	no thanks. i prefer MMS drops.
Mar 27 17:35:31 <Bugpowder>	derp
Mar 27 17:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	lmao can't even spell derp
Mar 27 17:35:45 <Bugpowder>	do you turn gold if you drink colloidal gold?
Mar 27 17:36:03 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 27 17:36:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.40003, Best ask: 87.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09996, Last trade: 87.40001, 24 hour volume: 70763.99455011, 24 hour low: 78.02000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 84.48762
Mar 27 17:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	i think there's cutanous inglobation and also the potential for some benign visceral tumours
Mar 27 17:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	i don't recall how it's called tho.
Mar 27 17:37:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 17:37:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.40004, Best ask: 87.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09996, Last trade: 87.50000, 24 hour volume: 70598.11766889, 24 hour low: 78.02000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 84.50209
Mar 27 17:38:51 <jurov>	Bugpowder, better get implant with privkeys
Mar 27 17:39:11 <jurov>	won't trip metal detectors
Mar 27 17:39:32 <jurov>	and available at nearest vet :)
Mar 27 17:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	i kinda wonder how long before privkey tattoos
Mar 27 17:40:03 <jurov>	pubkey, no?
Mar 27 17:40:11 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 27 17:40:19 <jurov>	privkey has to be on some private location
Mar 27 17:40:23 <Bugpowder>	yah
Mar 27 17:40:25 <Bugpowder>	privkey I wouldn't want exposed
Mar 27 17:40:27 <jborkl>	taint
Mar 27 17:40:28 <Bugpowder>	internal
Mar 27 17:40:48 *	jurov shudders on thought of foreskin tattooo
Mar 27 17:40:52 <Namworld>	Private parts eh?
Mar 27 17:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	well... on pubis
Mar 27 17:41:05 <Namworld>	Suiting place for a private key.
Mar 27 17:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	need to shave to read.
Mar 27 17:41:18 <Bugpowder>	Europeans at a real advantage here
Mar 27 17:41:34 <mircea_popescu>	how so ?
Mar 27 17:41:55 <jurov>	really all 'muricans are shaved and cut?
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Mar 27 17:42:08 <Bugpowder>	not all
Mar 27 17:42:09 <Bugpowder>	most are cut
Mar 27 17:42:10 <jurov>	or because of tsa?
Mar 27 17:42:45 <Bugpowder>	changing now that some states no longer pay for the procedure
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Mar 27 17:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... upon news that bitcoinity is mpex approved everyone hammers site into the ground.
Mar 27 17:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	evil.
Mar 27 17:45:32 <jurov>	yes? did not notice anything
Mar 27 17:45:36 <pizzaman1337>	I'm pretty sure the blockchain.info inclusion of it probably did that
Mar 27 17:45:54 <pizzaman1337>	http://markets.blockchain.info/
Mar 27 17:46:14 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 prolly.
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Mar 27 17:47:35 <jborkl>	mp, can i get a deposit cleared
Mar 27 17:47:35 <jcpham>	http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-ddos-that-almost-broke-the-internet
Mar 27 17:47:36 <Bugpowder>	heeey!
Mar 27 17:47:41 <Bugpowder>	we got a bid wall
Mar 27 17:47:45 <jcpham>	more info on the 300gbit ddos
Mar 27 17:49:33 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. deposits flushed.
Mar 27 17:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham lol cloudflare trying to parlay themselves into any ddos discussion.
Mar 27 17:50:08 <dub>	its pretty lulzy
Mar 27 17:50:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34999 = 1.05 BTC [+]
Mar 27 17:50:51 <jborkl>	Thank you
Mar 27 17:51:32 <TomServo>	Did they blame juniper again? heh
Mar 27 17:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	these all-marketing corps will end up driving us into the ground.
Mar 27 17:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	already the all-marketing banks fucked up this generation's life.
Mar 27 17:55:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
Mar 27 17:55:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
Mar 27 18:02:22 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 89.90
Mar 27 18:02:24 <gribble>	There are currently 1707.8129 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 152553.745975 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 27 18:03:17 <taub>	why isn't there a futures contract on btcusd?
Mar 27 18:03:20 <taub>	@ mpex
Mar 27 18:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	taub what function would it serve that options don't cover ?
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Mar 27 18:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159560.0 <<new asic ?
Mar 27 18:04:28 <taub>	just one instrument and easier to see the price directly
Mar 27 18:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	or new scamsic ?
Mar 27 18:04:58 <taub>	only 80ghz?
Mar 27 18:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	taub the thing is i don't like making futures which don;t include delivery. in my eyes unsettled future pretty much = scam.
Mar 27 18:05:13 <taub>	i can get 40 on cpu mining litecoins
Mar 27 18:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	but if you know someone who can do the delivery part i'd list it.
Mar 27 18:05:21 <pizzaman1337>	like, CFDs?
Mar 27 18:05:31 <taub>	you can do cash settlements
Mar 27 18:05:47 <taub>	http://www.cmegroup.com/rulebook/CME/III/250/270/270.pdf
Mar 27 18:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 the problem is that if the buyer of the underlying future does not have the "i'll take delivery" recourse
Mar 27 18:05:52 <taub>	like this
Mar 27 18:05:55 <mircea_popescu>	price is wide open to manipulation.
Mar 27 18:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	and i don't want to introduce more garbage in bitcoin finance, idiots do enough fo that.
Mar 27 18:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	im trying to create sense.
Mar 27 18:06:32 <dub>	new daily asic scams
Mar 27 18:06:37 <pizzaman1337>	I see
Mar 27 18:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	taub what happens if at settlement time "gold is worth 1200 usd" ?
Mar 27 18:07:03 <mircea_popescu>	this was the problem with so-called futures like the icbit ones, have you seen that article back then ?
Mar 27 18:07:10 <taub>	no
Mar 27 18:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/
Mar 27 18:07:34 <taub>	i quit bitcoin for 2 years after i found out THE LAW wouldn't let me run my fiat exchange
Mar 27 18:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	you would have been better off to quit your country.
Mar 27 18:08:00 <taub>	sure would
Mar 27 18:09:19 <thestrin1puller>	;;ticker
Mar 27 18:09:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.00642, Best ask: 88.48999, Bid-ask spread: 0.48357, Last trade: 88.49000, 24 hour volume: 70736.16864776, 24 hour low: 78.02000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 84.54575
Mar 27 18:09:31 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 27 18:09:32 <gribble>	84.68
Mar 27 18:09:44 <thestrin1puller>	;;(
Mar 27 18:09:45 <gribble>	Error: "(" is not a valid command.
Mar 27 18:09:48 <taub>	range
Mar 27 18:10:01 <thestrin1puller>	;;calc (84.68 - 75)/84.68
Mar 27 18:10:03 <gribble>	0.11431270666
Mar 27 18:10:04 <taub>	where will it break out to?!
Mar 27 18:10:46 <thestrin1puller>	0.11431 - 0.065
Mar 27 18:10:56 <thestrin1puller>	;;calc 0.11431 - 0.065
Mar 27 18:10:56 <gribble>	0.04931
Mar 27 18:11:03 <thestrin1puller>	woooooot
Mar 27 18:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	haha did you turn a profit ?
Mar 27 18:11:20 <deadweasel>	so that means you made .049 for each option you purchased?
Mar 27 18:11:25 <ThickAsThieves>	you might wanna wait before youe excercise...
Mar 27 18:11:51 <smickles>	doobey oooby oooby
Mar 27 18:11:53 <taub>	how many did you buy?
Mar 27 18:11:54 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: i followed bugpowders bet as an experiment
Mar 27 18:12:04 <Bugpowder>	congrats
Mar 27 18:12:23 <thestrin1puller>	only 4 but its like 200% bugpowder probably has made at least 100 grand
Mar 27 18:12:30 <thestrin1puller>	100%*
Mar 27 18:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	cool beanz.
Mar 27 18:12:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 89.94
Mar 27 18:12:36 <gribble>	There are currently 1684.1113 bitcoins offered at or under 89.94 USD, worth 150483.030546 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Mar 27 18:12:36 <Bugpowder>	heh
Mar 27 18:12:43 <mircea_popescu>	you people need to stop making money off the fake mpex volume and shit.
Mar 27 18:12:53 <thestrin1puller>	Bugpowder is rich! congrats to him
Mar 27 18:13:01 <taub>	dayum
Mar 27 18:13:07 <taub>	nice trade
Mar 27 18:13:08 <Bugpowder>	I'd like to thank the people that made this day possible
Mar 27 18:13:14 <Bugpowder>	the trade is not over yet
Mar 27 18:13:19 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder should stop dicking around and start a 500mn dolla fund to invest in bitcoin crap.
Mar 27 18:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	but no, he's buying cars and decerebrating mice. fucking waste.
Mar 27 18:13:36 <Bugpowder>	If I don't land this job
Mar 27 18:13:37 <deadweasel>	lol
Mar 27 18:13:39 <Bugpowder>	I just might
Mar 27 18:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder let me tell you a story.
Mar 27 18:14:04 <Bugpowder>	yes daddy
Mar 27 18:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	so, romania is a fucking backwater. the people here were mentally retarded as recently as 20 years ago.
Mar 27 18:14:08 <deadweasel>	bug, you should do start that EBAY killer, then you can remove mouse cerebellums
Mar 27 18:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	and i do mean this. of a 50k strong police force you couldn't find ten cops who knew what pot smelled like.
Mar 27 18:14:36 <thestrin1puller>	LOL
Mar 27 18:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	let that sink in for a minute, half the arab doctors schooled in cluj, cops have no idea what pot is.
Mar 27 18:14:53 <taub>	maybe they have better things to do than hunt kids with drugs
Mar 27 18:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much communist stuff, this is how it ends up. people just sheeple around, govt provides, everyone's clueless like a 16 yo priss.
Mar 27 18:15:18 <dub>	sounds like china
Mar 27 18:15:22 <mircea_popescu>	so, a year after the revolution someone started a ponzi.
Mar 27 18:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	it was called caritas
Mar 27 18:15:28 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Mar 27 18:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	it took over the motherfucking country.
Mar 27 18:15:31 <Bugpowder>	ohhh yesss
Mar 27 18:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	this is the backdrop.
Mar 27 18:15:53 <taub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K5cEOKXPGA romanian police :)
Mar 27 18:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	now this one guy, a carpenter, he got in early and let it ride.
Mar 27 18:16:14 *	pizzaman1337 saves your time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caritas_(Ponzi_scheme)
Mar 27 18:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	one friday he was scheduled to go pick up his huge loot. i mean packets of loot.
Mar 27 18:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	he went to his boss at where he worked to get an coupla hours off before lunch to get his loot.
Mar 27 18:16:42 <mircea_popescu>	boss wouldn't let it
Mar 27 18:16:44 <Namworld>	thanks pizzaman
Mar 27 18:16:44 <mircea_popescu>	SO HE DIDNT GO.
Mar 27 18:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	saturday it failed.
Mar 27 18:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	the guy's loot was ~5000 years' worth of his salary.
Mar 27 18:16:58 <dub>	taub: bitch had it coming
Mar 27 18:17:12 <Bugpowder>	ohhhh
Mar 27 18:17:12 <Namworld>	...
Mar 27 18:17:14 <Bugpowder>	sheeeeit
Mar 27 18:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	he would have been paid too
Mar 27 18:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	they paid all through friday night.
Mar 27 18:17:28 <Namworld>	>.>
Mar 27 18:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	moral of the story is :
Mar 27 18:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	listen to your boss.
Mar 27 18:17:43 <damientrog>	hehe
Mar 27 18:17:46 <mircea_popescu>	but understand your boss is whoever is cutting the checks.
Mar 27 18:17:49 <Bugpowder>	* Submitting withdrawal request *
Mar 27 18:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	NOT whoever talks loudest
Mar 27 18:18:07 <Bugpowder>	jk
Mar 27 18:18:36 <Bugpowder>	I think it would be easier to fund a lab with bitcoin investments than to get NIH grant money
Mar 27 18:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	by now prolly.
Mar 27 18:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	just say it makes asics out of mice brainz
Mar 27 18:19:25 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 27 18:19:28 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Mar 27 18:19:29 <ThickAsThieves>	asic mouse wheels
Mar 27 18:19:39 <jurov>	SHA-shaped labyrinth
Mar 27 18:19:43 <deadweasel>	O watts!  35+ mice per hour
Mar 27 18:19:51 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 27 18:19:53 <deadweasel>	just pitch the dead ones out the window
Mar 27 18:20:02 <ThickAsThieves>	no they are trade-ins
Mar 27 18:20:05 <mircea_popescu>	make a cat petshop as a side business
Mar 27 18:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	own reddit.
Mar 27 18:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	marketing.
Mar 27 18:20:57 <jurov>	<noooob> i dont understand why Satoshi made the weakness of 50% atack.. it would feel better if the threshold was at 80-90%
Mar 27 18:21:05 <jurov>	^^ just peeked into -otc
Mar 27 18:21:10 <deadweasel>	lol!
Mar 27 18:21:14 <deadweasel>	stupid satoshi
Mar 27 18:21:16 <deadweasel>	...
Mar 27 18:21:27 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ahahaha o gawd.
Mar 27 18:21:27 <Bugpowder>	argh...  I could make a real bitcoin fund
Mar 27 18:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	satoshi could do ANYTHING
Mar 27 18:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	forealz.
Mar 27 18:21:42 <Bugpowder>	Could probably get 10M seed
Mar 27 18:21:47 <Bugpowder>	pretty easy
Mar 27 18:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	then do it.
Mar 27 18:22:11 <Bugpowder>	would need to be full time
Mar 27 18:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	make sure you don't break any laws, don't lie to anybody, and fucking do something useful with your time
Mar 27 18:22:21 <Bugpowder>	I'm on a track baby
Mar 27 18:22:56 <deadweasel>	mircea_popescu: best life advice evar.
Mar 27 18:23:12 <deadweasel>	and I swear I never thought I'd say that
Mar 27 18:23:55 *	mircea_popescu bows
Mar 27 18:24:14 <dub>	thats terrible advice for business
Mar 27 18:24:15 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder: if you need any help, i'd be honored (for .5btc per hr.)  :D
Mar 27 18:24:23 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin just didn't seem like it would have the market cap to make it worth it, until the last 2-3 months
Mar 27 18:24:28 <deadweasel>	life advice, not business.
Mar 27 18:24:42 <thestrin1puller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 27 18:24:42 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 minutes and 50 seconds ago: <smickles> doobey oooby oooby
Mar 27 18:24:59 <Bugpowder>	Well.... I'll know in 3 weeks
Mar 27 18:25:06 <thestrin1puller>	smickles: will you be able to get the account statement stuff in a bit?
Mar 27 18:25:25 <dub>	if Gates or Jobs followed those rules they would be in the gutter
Mar 27 18:25:41 <smickles>	thestrin1puller: yes shortly,
Mar 27 18:26:46 <mircea_popescu>	 It attracted millions of depositors from all over the country who invested more than a trillion old lei (between one and five billion USD) before it finally went bankrupt on 14 August 1994
Mar 27 18:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	jesus god. it ran for two years and yes, billion usd.
Mar 27 18:27:10 <Bugpowder>	smaller than pirate
Mar 27 18:27:16 <Bugpowder>	in a few months
Mar 27 18:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	this is why we don't motherfucking want polite people, this is what we don't want sfw and this is why we don't want governments.
Mar 27 18:28:39 <Bugpowder>	time for another ponzi plot
Mar 27 18:28:46 <Diablo-D3>	see, this is why I want to provide a nice big investment opportunity to bitcoin
Mar 27 18:28:53 <Diablo-D3>	just so people like mircea_popescu can stfu about "governments"
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Mar 27 18:32:35 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/sm8Tb6R.png
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Mar 27 18:33:09 <Bugpowder>	PONZI
Mar 27 18:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder pretty soon you'll need a totally new log base invented just for you
Mar 27 18:33:18 <mircea_popescu>	we'll call it the B number.
Mar 27 18:33:23 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 27 18:33:24 <mircea_popescu>	something like eleventy
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Mar 27 18:33:52 <Bugpowder>	see, I'm not doing that good in terms of total BTC multiplied
Mar 27 18:33:59 <Bugpowder>	only 2.35x
Mar 27 18:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	ya, just doubled it
Mar 27 18:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	totally shit i agree.
Mar 27 18:34:11 <mircea_popescu>	i regularly double my gold bars in my safe
Mar 27 18:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	i stick them in a girl's vagina, end up with two girls.
Mar 27 18:34:23 <mircea_popescu>	i mean two bars.
Mar 27 18:35:49 <KRS1>	heh
Mar 27 18:36:09 <jurov>	also, vag very useful for teleportation
Mar 27 18:36:18 <smickles>	thestrin1puller: sent :)
Mar 27 18:36:41 <KRS1>	thats totally true..i've found myself comming and going quite a bit in vag
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Mar 27 18:37:40 <jurov>	errr... i mixed that up. for teleportation, ass is used
Mar 27 18:37:45 <jurov>	aka asspull
Mar 27 18:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel dub it's great business advice.
Mar 27 18:45:50 <taub>	i still think you could add cash settlement futures
Mar 27 18:46:03 <taub>	2 people enter a contract buy/hold
Mar 27 18:46:09 <taub>	buy or sell i mean
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Mar 27 18:46:26 <taub>	at the end one pays the difference to the other over the settlement price
Mar 27 18:46:37 <taub>	which you can pull like you do now from 24h price or some other source
Mar 27 18:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	taub it'd be a side bet.
Mar 27 18:47:21 <thestrin1puller>	smickles: thanks mang! greatly appreciated
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Mar 27 18:47:40 <taub>	there are lots of futures contracts that are settled in cash
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Mar 27 18:48:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00395302 = 7.7084 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2989 @ 0.0037 = 11.0593 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5379 @ 0.0036 = 19.3644 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0033 = 6.6 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:48:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5034 @ 0.003198 = 16.0987 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:48:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00310002 = 0.31 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:48:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 12548 @ 0.00310001 = 38.8989 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:48:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1069 BTC [+]
Mar 27 18:48:36 <pizzaman1337>	poor S.DICE
Mar 27 18:48:46 <Troic>	ouch
Mar 27 18:48:58 <taub>	holding btc more profitable
Mar 27 18:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	hey, so it's now under ipo prices.
Mar 27 18:51:09 <taub>	whats the time the bot creates new batches of options?
Mar 27 18:51:55 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Mar 27 18:51:55 <assbot>	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Mar 27 18:51:58 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 27 18:51:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00060001 / 0.00061926 / 0.00063879 (140012 shares, 86.70 BTC), 7D: 0.00060001 / 0.00068066 / 0.00077402 (2007346 shares, 1,366.33 BTC), 30D: 0.00060001 / 0.00073633 / 0.00078628 (16817351 shares, 12,383.12 BTC)
Mar 27 18:52:02 <mircea_popescu>	taub it was never specified.
Mar 27 18:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	it sorta does every so often
Mar 27 18:52:32 <taub>	just did it nwo
Mar 27 18:52:33 <damientrog>	what's up with S.DICE? Why is it going so low?
Mar 27 18:52:35 <taub>	now~
Mar 27 18:53:02 <taub>	no it didnt, sorry
Mar 27 18:53:11 <dub>	operator asshatery
Mar 27 18:53:18 <dub>	in short
Mar 27 18:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	damientrog possibly cause this will be a low div month
Mar 27 18:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159734.0 < this guy has an interesting idea.
Mar 27 18:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	anyone here want to make an open-source bitcoin gambling platform ?
Mar 27 18:53:49 <damientrog>	well the yield is already quite high
Mar 27 18:54:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.711 BTC [+]
Mar 27 18:54:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:54:15 <taub>	i dont like gambling
Mar 27 18:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	damientrog it had some crazy months so people came to expect it i guess
Mar 27 18:54:42 <damientrog>	I guess
Mar 27 18:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	$depth s.dice
Mar 27 18:55:15 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: S.DICE Bids: ['1025 @ 0.00310001', '805000 @ 0.0031', '100 @ 0.00100121', '3000 @ 0.00100002', '7500 @ 0.00100001']
Mar 27 18:55:16 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['53154 @ 0.00399999', '2084 @ 0.00429257', '3815 @ 0.00448', '9896 @ 0.00475', '5248 @ 0.00479999']
Mar 27 18:55:21 <taub>	i wrote something like betfair in perl
Mar 27 18:55:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00438 = 0.0657 BTC [+]
Mar 27 18:55:42 <kakobrekla>	bitcoinity say all time high 89.5
Mar 27 18:55:42 <mircea_popescu>	taub why aren't you running it ?
Mar 27 18:55:53 <taub>	betting is amoral :)
Mar 27 18:55:57 <taub>	immoral
Mar 27 18:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	why write it then
Mar 27 18:56:23 <ThickAsThieves>	little rally going
Mar 27 18:56:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 90
Mar 27 18:56:30 <kakobrekla>	just a little.
Mar 27 18:56:34 <gribble>	There are currently 1998.9507 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 179742.368423 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
Mar 27 18:56:36 <taub>	after this range
Mar 27 18:56:42 <taub>	dont be surprised to se a $3 jump
Mar 27 18:56:47 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
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Mar 27 18:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.40011 = 1.2003 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4001 = 1.6004 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:58:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.39804 = 4.7765 BTC [-]
Mar 27 18:58:06 <taub>	that was before i had a religious experience mircea_popescu
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Mar 27 18:58:26 <taub>	how else could i define morality
Mar 27 18:58:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol k
Mar 27 18:59:01 <Bowjob>	man
Mar 27 18:59:40 <Bowjob>	i just had some pad ped.. shit was extremely spicy
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Mar 27 19:00:01 <Bowjob>	i like it though. the food was like.. "Want to eat me? You have to fight for it first."
Mar 27 19:00:09 <Bowjob>	it was delicious. nomnomnom
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Mar 27 19:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.594 = 1.188 BTC [+]
Mar 27 19:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h vtx
Mar 27 19:02:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.47000000 / 0.57394246 / 0.70000000 (224 shares, 128.56311141 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.42510779 / 0.79900000 (11366 shares, 4831.77511485 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.42531821 / 0.79900000 (11489 shares, 4886.48091485 BTC)
Mar 27 19:02:34 <mircea_popescu>	a so it simmered down some
Mar 27 19:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.594 = 1.188 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 19:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	look Ukto, scammer has proof he's better than you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154089.msg1658772#msg1658772
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Mar 27 19:10:09 <Ukto>	wha?
Mar 27 19:10:12 *	Ukto doesnt see anything
Mar 27 19:10:15 <Ukto>	not reading just skimmning
Mar 27 19:10:20 <Ukto>	oh
Mar 27 19:10:21 <Ukto>	alexa
Mar 27 19:11:06 <Ukto>	yeah
Mar 27 19:11:10 <Ukto>	easily faked numbers
Mar 27 19:11:15 <Ukto>	happy to be mentioned
Mar 27 19:11:15 <Ukto>	:)
Mar 27 19:12:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4389 = 1.3167 BTC [+]
Mar 27 19:12:07 <taub>	Please take under consideration that their site is much more older then BitBillions and the fact that number of shares, meaning fund's popularity, is an important factor in shares future performance.
Mar 27 19:12:11 <taub>	whut
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Mar 27 19:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.44 = 2.64 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 19:14:47 <taub>	23:32 < Bugpowder> see, I'm not doing that good in terms of total BTC multiplied
Mar 27 19:14:50 <taub>	23:32 < Bugpowder> only 2.35x
Mar 27 19:14:56 <taub>	and what was the risk?
Mar 27 19:14:58 <taub>	did he go all in
Mar 27 19:15:56 <taub>	sux that he left
Mar 27 19:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	he's been trading for maybe half a year or so
Mar 27 19:16:52 <taub>	I mean in that one big trade today
Mar 27 19:17:00 <taub>	I doubt he risked everything
Mar 27 19:17:11 <taub>	would be stupid, even when you can double your cash
Mar 27 19:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	i think the 2x thing refers to his entire history.
Mar 27 19:19:22 <taub>	oh, yep
Mar 27 19:22:06 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: is it possible to make options, sell them, later buy them back, and have the BTC freed up to use for something else? I don't see why it needs to be kept
Mar 27 19:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	there's not a way to get collateral back before end of month atm, no.
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Mar 27 19:22:06 <pizzaman1337>	could you add that sometime in the future? I now have BTC tied up that I was hoping would be free
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Mar 27 19:22:50 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Mar 27 19:22:50 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/
Mar 27 19:22:50 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 08:15:50 2013
Mar 27 19:22:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's not very likely to be added, no. option underwriting is a business, not a casual endeavour.
Mar 27 19:23:08 <ThickAsThieves>	since i have yet to excercise an option i think i need clarification
Mar 27 19:23:11 <mircea_popescu>	the approach for the retail user is to buy long puts/calls, not to sell shorts.
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Mar 27 19:23:24 <ThickAsThieves>	is that to say, if i excercise, i dont get the btc til month's end?
Mar 27 19:23:31 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves you get it on the spot.
Mar 27 19:23:34 <ThickAsThieves>	ok
Mar 27 19:23:38 <ThickAsThieves>	so what's he asking?
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Mar 27 19:23:44 <ThickAsThieves>	for options debt?
Mar 27 19:23:53 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: I see. It seems like you might be able to get more volume though if people have free btc to use more often
Mar 27 19:24:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.594 BTC [+]
Mar 27 19:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 i don't follow your logic.
Mar 27 19:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	you put up the collateral for an option, you've paid the fare, now you can buy/sell it as many times as you want.
Mar 27 19:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	the idea is that you do 5000 trades a month but never wider than 500, so you put up collateral for 500.
Mar 27 19:25:03 <mircea_popescu>	the idea is NOT that you swarm in, make 5000 options, then leave, then swarm in later.
Mar 27 19:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	the point is to stabilise the bitcoin macroeconomy, not wreck it.
Mar 27 19:25:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 15 @ 0.1078 = 1.617 BTC [+]
Mar 27 19:27:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 100000000
Mar 27 19:27:06 <gribble>	There are currently 43462.343 bitcoins offered at or under 100000000.0 USD, worth 355260396.662 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0030 seconds
Mar 27 19:27:37 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Mar 27 19:27:38 <gribble>	There are currently 35745145 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9473710.73262 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.9370 seconds
Mar 27 19:27:41 <pizzaman1337>	What I did was make put options, sold them, bought the same amount back cheaper, and now I have "locked in" profit. But, the btc are still deposited as surety.
Mar 27 19:27:43 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 27 19:27:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.40000, Best ask: 88.41001, Bid-ask spread: 0.01001, Last trade: 88.41001, 24 hour volume: 71991.10681540, 24 hour low: 78.40000, 24 hour high: 89.49999, 24 hour vwap: 84.79083
Mar 27 19:27:49 <pizzaman1337>	I'll keep that in mind for future trading
Mar 27 19:27:59 <taub>	btc/usd ratio is 216
Mar 27 19:28:08 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, you only get it back on month end.
Mar 27 19:28:54 <mircea_popescu>	taub pretty meaningless metric.
Mar 27 19:29:18 <taub>	i like to look at it where it moves for the short term pressure
Mar 27 19:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	ya but i mean someone could just put 5 btc at 1mn usd in the book
Mar 27 19:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	alter it to all hell
Mar 27 19:30:21 <taub>	it only counts the btc in the ask
Mar 27 19:30:25 <taub>	and usd in the bid
Mar 27 19:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	a ? k
Mar 27 19:30:47 <taub>	let me check
Mar 27 19:31:41 <taub>	yea
Mar 27 19:31:48 <mircea_popescu>	that's better.
Mar 27 19:32:04 <taub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148462.0 this one
Mar 27 19:32:23 <taub>	its great, also works with the socketio beta, which has been fantastically stable
Mar 27 19:32:34 <taub>	i dont trade with it, but better than clarkmoody for me
Mar 27 19:32:58 <taub>	and easy to modify
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Mar 27 19:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136442717626.jpg << the latest word in uncomfortable shoes.
Mar 27 19:33:58 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 90
Mar 27 19:34:02 <gribble>	There are currently 2427.7609 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 217989.998814 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
Mar 27 19:34:04 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 87
Mar 27 19:34:04 <gribble>	There are currently 765.14819 bitcoins demanded at or over 87.0 USD, worth 67115.21744 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.7106 seconds
Mar 27 19:34:13 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 85
Mar 27 19:34:14 <gribble>	There are currently 4163.2509 bitcoins demanded at or over 85.0 USD, worth 357750.134594 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.4329 seconds
Mar 27 19:34:28 <taub>	the ratio would prolly be better if you divide it by the last price
Mar 27 19:34:39 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 100
Mar 27 19:34:39 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100 bitcoins right now would net 8824.0000 USD and would take the last price down to 88.2400 USD, resulting in an average price of 88.2400 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 37.8858 seconds
Mar 27 19:34:45 <thestringpuller>	;;market buy 100
Mar 27 19:34:45 <gribble>	A market order to buy 100 bitcoins right now would take 8865.7279 USD and would take the last price up to 88.7700 USD, resulting in an average price of 88.6573 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 44.1744 seconds
Mar 27 19:34:53 <thestringpuller>	;;market buy 500
Mar 27 19:34:54 <gribble>	A market order to buy 500 bitcoins right now would take 44608.6915 USD and would take the last price up to 89.5000 USD, resulting in an average price of 89.2174 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 51.8755 seconds
Mar 27 19:34:59 <thestringpuller>	;;market buy 800
Mar 27 19:34:59 <gribble>	A market order to buy 800 bitcoins right now would take 71528.1483 USD and would take the last price up to 89.8700 USD, resulting in an average price of 89.4102 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 57.6225 seconds
Mar 27 19:35:04 <thestringpuller>	;;market buy 1000
Mar 27 19:35:05 <gribble>	A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 89503.3366 USD and would take the last price up to 89.9000 USD, resulting in an average price of 89.5033 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 62.6785 seconds
Mar 27 19:35:12 <thestringpuller>	wow
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Mar 27 19:40:36 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 27 19:40:36 <gribble>	1.779934 seconds
Mar 27 19:41:59 <jborkl>	mp.can i get a deposit cleared
Mar 27 19:43:10 <taub>	looking for big possible retracements, but i dont see it really
Mar 27 19:43:15 <taub>	not yet anyway
Mar 27 19:43:48 <taub>	but i usually dont got top fishing
Mar 27 19:44:27 <taub>	87 very likely, just because that was the range, and it kinda failed to break out of it
Mar 27 19:45:06 <taub>	depth says it would be more likely to go to 86 than to 90
Mar 27 19:45:17 <smickles>	;;lucky reddit mens's rights
Mar 27 19:45:18 <gribble>	http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/
Mar 27 19:49:09 <benkay>	waste of energy
Mar 27 19:49:11 <benkay>	reactionary
Mar 27 19:49:36 <BitHub>	smickles i'm guessing that subreddit is blank?
Mar 27 19:49:53 <benkay>	mircea_popescu would probably suggest they find women who accept their role in the world
Mar 27 19:49:56 <smickles>	BitHub: naw, full of divorce courts screwing men over
Mar 27 19:52:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 13 @ 0.34999 = 4.5499 BTC [+]
Mar 27 19:52:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Mar 27 19:52:53 <BitHub>	btw asicminer divs suck now
Mar 27 19:52:55 <BitHub>	abort
Mar 27 19:59:23 <Uglux>	look a sd
Mar 27 19:59:26 <Uglux>	at
Mar 27 20:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flusshed.
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Mar 27 20:07:09 <Diablo-D3>	BitHub: they dont suck now
Mar 27 20:07:26 <Diablo-D3>	they're exactly what was originally contracted for
Mar 27 20:07:48 <BitHub>	yeah i know but i miss it
Mar 27 20:08:04 <Diablo-D3>	doesnt bother me
Mar 27 20:08:21 <Diablo-D3>	remember, friedcat has already ordered the hardware to bring the pool up to 60th
Mar 27 20:09:17 <BitHub>	oh yeah so if all goes all and implements it divs will be high again
Mar 27 20:09:21 <BitHub>	maybe much higher
Mar 27 20:09:44 <Diablo-D3>	hes going to have to start selling boards though
Mar 27 20:10:26 <Diablo-D3>	did all 600 batch 2 avalon get sold?
Mar 27 20:12:26 <BitHub>	yeah true, i was going to ask, if they were going to sell a rig or anything?
Mar 27 20:12:27 <BitHub>	i want
Mar 27 20:13:00 <BitHub>	batch 2 and 3 i believe
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Mar 27 20:13:40 <Diablo-D3>	er right, I meant 3
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Mar 27 20:14:44 <BitHub>	yeah all gone
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Mar 27 20:22:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.00438 = 0.219 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 20:26:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 35 @ 0.00438 = 0.1533 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 20:33:33 <ThickAsThieves>	neat      http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/27/4154206/mozilla-epic-games-bring-unreal-engine-3-to-browser-no-plugins
Mar 27 20:36:16 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Mar 27 20:36:17 <Diablo-D3>	you know what
Mar 27 20:36:25 <Diablo-D3>	fuck javascript.
Mar 27 20:36:58 <ThickAsThieves>	ok
Mar 27 20:41:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.739 = 1.478 BTC [+]
Mar 27 20:43:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00060554 = 6.1765 BTC [-]
Mar 27 20:43:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1869 @ 0.00060077 = 1.1228 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 20:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 13 @ 1.8 = 23.4 BTC [-]
Mar 27 20:54:11 <Bowjob>	looks like it. i wish i grabbed more avalon 2s
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Mar 27 20:59:18 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 27 20:59:19 <gribble>	47380.435334228248
Mar 27 20:59:27 <dub>	hrm
Mar 27 20:59:48 <dub>	was stable at 51th for a few days
Mar 27 20:59:58 <dub>	bfl premine?
Mar 27 21:04:40 <ThickAsThieves>	or avalon
Mar 27 21:04:44 <ThickAsThieves>	or AM
Mar 27 21:05:07 <ThickAsThieves>	also india had some internet trouble
Mar 27 21:05:27 <ThickAsThieves>	http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Egypt-catches-divers-cutting-Internet-cable-amid-disruptions/articleshow/19249985.cms
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Mar 27 21:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.41100001 = 2.877 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:13:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 39 @ 0.00399998 = 0.156 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 21:15:07 <Bowjob>	dice..
Mar 27 21:15:12 <Bowjob>	what r u doin
Mar 27 21:15:14 <Bowjob>	stahp
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Mar 27 21:20:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 21:20:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.02000, Best ask: 89.02845, Bid-ask spread: 0.00845, Last trade: 89.02845, 24 hour volume: 68638.37125383, 24 hour low: 78.60100, 24 hour high: 89.49999, 24 hour vwap: 85.38873
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Mar 27 21:21:27 <ThickAsThieves>	just need to hang in there 3 or 4 more hours, then buyers will be back
Mar 27 21:22:12 <tiberiusiv>	evening gentlemen
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Mar 27 21:23:30 <jborkl>	topace
Mar 27 21:26:40 <dub>	Luke-Jr level crazy in those comments
Mar 27 21:27:15 <dub>	Mission Unaccomplished. They should have left a note on a Bouy saying" Do Not Disturb, Religion of peace at work".
Mar 27 21:27:38 <dub>	Don't give up peace lovers, you will eventually succeed in cutting those Cables.
Mar 27 21:27:53 <dub>	you say everything is in koran, what do you need internet for???
Mar 27 21:28:11 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 27 21:31:26 <Bowjob>	I think I got a delivery for my casa coin
Mar 27 21:31:42 <Bowjob>	ill get mine tomorrow since apparently i didnt answer the doorbell
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Mar 27 21:33:22 <Bugpowder>	which coin?
Mar 27 21:36:10 <Bowjob>	molec's 1 btc
Mar 27 21:36:21 <Bowjob>	I think it's a good idea to buy 10 BTC coins
Mar 27 21:36:22 <Bugpowder>	I wonder if we will se resistance as we approach 100, or acceleration
Mar 27 21:36:24 <Bowjob>	they appreciate in value
Mar 27 21:36:44 <Bugpowder>	I have a 25 and a silver 10 and a handful of 1s
Mar 27 21:36:57 <Bowjob>	the 10 coins go for 20
Mar 27 21:36:57 <Bugpowder>	gave some 25s away a long time ago.
Mar 27 21:37:19 <Bowjob>	well.. the 10s look really really good
Mar 27 21:37:24 <Bugpowder>	are the first printings going to go for more?
Mar 27 21:37:30 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 27 21:37:33 <Bowjob>	but 2013 versions
Mar 27 21:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.595 = 3.57 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 21:39:00 <Bowjob>	http://www.ebay.com/itm/190814922588
Mar 27 21:39:01 <Bowjob>	wow
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Mar 27 21:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.575 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 21:41:47 <Bowjob>	the shipping to canada option is .6 BTC
Mar 27 21:41:49 <Bowjob>	thats.. a lot
Mar 27 21:42:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01965 BTC [+]
Mar 27 21:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.575 = 1.725 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.57 = 3.42 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.565 = 4.52 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.56 = 5.6 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.55 = 5.5 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.545 = 6.54 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.541 = 3.246 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.535 = 2.675 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.533 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.532 = 1.596 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.51245 = 6.1494 BTC [-]
Mar 27 21:43:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01966 BTC [+]
Mar 27 21:44:00 <Bowjob>	mhm, one value combo and.. 5 BTC coins
Mar 27 21:45:16 <bgupta>	burnside can you check the bids on asicminer, they seem out of order
Mar 27 21:46:01 <bgupta>	burnside nvm
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Mar 27 21:47:36 <tiberiusiv>	so sdice is now below ipo value
Mar 27 21:47:55 <Bugpowder>	nope you are wrong
Mar 27 21:48:10 <tiberiusiv>	didnt it ipo @ 37
Mar 27 21:48:16 <Bugpowder>	.0032
Mar 27 21:48:21 <Bugpowder>	.0034
Mar 27 21:48:25 <Bugpowder>	.0037
Mar 27 21:48:28 <tiberiusiv>	hit 30 today right?
Mar 27 21:48:36 <Bugpowder>	nope
Mar 27 21:48:45 <Bugpowder>	oh shit
Mar 27 21:48:46 <Bugpowder>	it did
Mar 27 21:48:48 <Bugpowder>	heh
Mar 27 21:48:52 <Bugpowder>	it does that sometimes
Mar 27 21:48:58 <Bugpowder>	it has hit .0008
Mar 27 21:49:03 <Bugpowder>	fatfinger
Mar 27 21:49:10 <Bugpowder>	this is not a fatfinger though
Mar 27 21:49:16 <Bugpowder>	this is impatience
Mar 27 21:49:22 <Bugpowder>	with a shiity month
Mar 27 21:49:42 <Bowjob>	so far no dividends in place
Mar 27 21:49:43 <Bugpowder>	$510 for 1 BTC casascius coin?!?
Mar 27 21:49:48 <Bowjob>	yeah, apparently so
Mar 27 21:49:52 <Bugpowder>	I have like 10 of those old ones
Mar 27 21:49:59 <tiberiusiv>	many people are now sinking life savings into BTC
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Mar 27 21:50:53 <smickles>	that's just silly
Mar 27 21:51:01 <smickles>	falkvinge
Mar 27 21:51:11 <Bugpowder>	must be a pumper
Mar 27 21:51:12 <Bowjob>	I'm already thinking.. order up (10) 1 BTCs, one value combo for (1) 25 BTC and (2) 1 BTC.. and (5) 10 BTC all 2013s
Mar 27 21:51:13 <gesell>	s.dice down?
Mar 27 21:51:25 <Bowjob>	seems like a good idea
Mar 27 21:51:32 <smickles>	http://falkvinge.net/2011/05/29/why-im-putting-all-my-savings-into-bitcoin/
Mar 27 21:51:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [+]
Mar 27 21:52:20 <tiberiusiv>	i really dont think the BTC price will be higher at the end of the year
Mar 27 21:52:24 <tiberiusiv>	then where it is now
Mar 27 21:52:43 <Bowjob>	tiber.. thank you for sharing us what you think
Mar 27 21:52:46 <Bowjob>	we appreciate it
Mar 27 21:52:48 <ThickAsThieves>	"6. Finally, a Plea to the Developers
Mar 27 21:52:48 <ThickAsThieves>	Bitcoin has appreciated like crazy, and as described, I predict it will continue to do so. There are already eight decimal places in the system. Please make it possible to use milli- and microbitcoins as soon as possible; bitcoin will continue to climb like crazy and may even accelerate. A currency where the smallest unit can buy you a small house is not practical for everyday use.
Mar 27 21:52:48 <ThickAsThieves>	I would like to be able to use millicoins and microcoins. I know the system can handle it down to 1/100 of a microcoin; please make it possible in the interface as well."
Mar 27 21:52:54 <ThickAsThieves>	why?
Mar 27 21:53:34 <smickles>	it wasn't possible at the time
Mar 27 21:54:47 <Bowjob>	I also heard that casa will make 0.5 and 0.1 coins
Mar 27 21:54:48 <Bowjob>	neato
Mar 27 21:56:51 <gesell>	is saatoshidice down for maintenance or something?
Mar 27 21:57:44 <Bowjob>	it works for me
Mar 27 21:57:58 <Bowjob>	the counter is down
Mar 27 21:58:00 <Bowjob>	i see the bets
Mar 27 21:58:04 <smickles>	selling p310t for .008btc
Mar 27 21:58:18 <smickles>	p730t for .0088btc :D
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Mar 27 21:59:28 <gesell>	Bowjob: thanks
Mar 27 22:00:07 <Bowjob>	1dice9wcMu5hLF4g81u8nioL5mmSHTApw
Mar 27 22:00:09 <Bowjob>	try this
Mar 27 22:00:11 <Bowjob>	48%
Mar 27 22:00:17 <Bowjob>	I mean, 73%
Mar 27 22:01:12 <Bugpowder>	jesus christ if joe reddit keeps complaining about millibitcoins I'm going to puke.
Mar 27 22:01:35 <benkay>	hey assets
Mar 27 22:01:42 <benkay>	who's your bitcoin vendor of choice?
Mar 27 22:01:53 <Bowjob>	theres this guy that accidentally escrowed 42 BTC to the wrong address
Mar 27 22:01:54 <Bowjob>	wow
Mar 27 22:02:07 <Bowjob>	the address probably doesnt exist
Mar 27 22:02:40 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158175.msg1678798#msg1678798
Mar 27 22:02:59 <Bowjob>	let those 42 BTC don't go to waste; triple check every address
Mar 27 22:03:05 <Bowjob>	before sending
Mar 27 22:03:20 <Bugpowder>	isn't that impossible
Mar 27 22:03:26 <Bowjob>	what is
Mar 27 22:03:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.681007 BTC [-]
Mar 27 22:03:44 <Bugpowder>	permenatly sending to an address that doesn't exist?
Mar 27 22:03:48 <Bowjob>	"^I confirm this as the escrow. Apparently OP copied the wrong address for me from the firstbits system.."
Mar 27 22:04:07 <Bowjob>	"Apparently, 17ifs was not parked, but part of a steganographic message that happened to include it.  The address might well belong to nobody at all.  ugh..."
Mar 27 22:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder its impossible to send to an invalid address
Mar 27 22:04:14 <smickles>	the funny thing about falkvinge, is he went all in and the exchange rate crashed
Mar 27 22:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	not to one that's valid but nobody has the keys for
Mar 27 22:04:40 <Bowjob>	So the address exist but no one has the keys for them?
Mar 27 22:04:56 <Bugpowder>	ha
Mar 27 22:04:59 <Bugpowder>	oops
Mar 27 22:05:03 <benkay>	do you understand the protocol, bowjob?
Mar 27 22:05:06 <benkay>	like
Mar 27 22:05:07 <benkay>	at all?
Mar 27 22:05:24 <Bowjob>	i know a bit..
Mar 27 22:05:32 <Bowjob>	like wallet.dat has keys, not bitcoins
Mar 27 22:05:40 <Bowjob>	but i dont understand "
Mar 27 22:05:42 <Bowjob>	Apparently, 17ifs was not parked, but part of a steganographic message that happened to include it.  The address might well belong to nobody at all.  ugh...
Mar 27 22:05:43 <Bowjob>	this part
Mar 27 22:05:48 <Bugpowder>	this is why escrow sucks
Mar 27 22:06:10 <Bugpowder>	How does adding another wheel improve trust and security?
Mar 27 22:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob you;'re in good company, i have no idea wtf that means either.
Mar 27 22:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder well if you don't know your cp
Mar 27 22:06:51 <mircea_popescu>	like, say your best friend has a sister, and you don't know her.
Mar 27 22:06:57 <mircea_popescu>	so as a measure of safety, you fuck him and he fucks her
Mar 27 22:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	instead of going directly and catching who knows what.
Mar 27 22:07:10 <Bugpowder>	seems riskier
Mar 27 22:07:15 <Bugpowder>	male male
Mar 27 22:07:27 <Bugpowder>	statistically speaking
Mar 27 22:07:57 <Bugpowder>	Along those lines... I think I'll turn in early tonight.  See you at 95.00 hours.
Mar 27 22:08:02 <benkay>	i'm baffled that nobody seems interested in doing m-of-n transactions
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Mar 27 22:08:10 <smickles>	i'd say it's more like he fucks her and tells you how it was
Mar 27 22:08:17 <jborkl>	seems safer if its your brothers sister
Mar 27 22:08:29 <jborkl>	oh shit nm
Mar 27 22:08:50 <smickles>	benkay: probably because there isn't an easy gui for it
Mar 27 22:09:06 <bgupta>	m-of-n?
Mar 27 22:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	benkay im not using them because i don't see the benefit really.
Mar 27 22:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	herding cats.
Mar 27 22:09:28 <benkay>	meh
Mar 27 22:09:29 <bgupta>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_distribution
Mar 27 22:09:37 <benkay>	one doesn't have to herd cats
Mar 27 22:09:41 <benkay>	a signs tx outputs to a
Mar 27 22:09:45 <benkay>	b signs tx outputs to b
Mar 27 22:09:51 <benkay>	c waits, then signs to a or b
Mar 27 22:10:00 <mircea_popescu>	i get the theory.
Mar 27 22:10:19 <benkay>	so, cats?
Mar 27 22:10:22 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 27 22:10:32 <smickles>	it's the internet. ofc cats
Mar 27 22:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, you need to organise a b and c
Mar 27 22:11:40 <benkay>	and nothing keeps a from spending the coins in the interim
Mar 27 22:11:47 <benkay>	before c oracularizes
Mar 27 22:11:57 <benkay>	coins -> inputs
Mar 27 22:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 27 22:12:12 <smickles>	i just thought of something which is probably accounted for, but what if i start an m-of-n, but before the coins are
Mar 27 22:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	then one of these magical things gets doublespent
Mar 27 22:12:18 <smickles>	benkay types faster
Mar 27 22:12:28 <benkay>	i type shorter
Mar 27 22:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	and you'll need a comission to disentangle the shit
Mar 27 22:12:28 <benkay>	;)
Mar 27 22:12:47 <benkay>	no commission, the spent inputs are invalid for the escrowed txn
Mar 27 22:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	ya but
Mar 27 22:13:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0035001 BTC [-]
Mar 27 22:13:01 <mircea_popescu>	a still owes to b or w/e
Mar 27 22:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	basically, it;s a bulky impractical geeky solution to a problem that doesn't really exist.
Mar 27 22:13:43 <benkay>	this routine sounds familiar
Mar 27 22:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	exactly the sort of thing bitcoin-geeks implement instead of testing the bitcoin client
Mar 27 22:14:07 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 27 22:14:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.50000, Best ask: 87.60010, Bid-ask spread: 0.10010, Last trade: 87.64419, 24 hour volume: 67656.57933412, 24 hour low: 79.95000, 24 hour high: 89.49999, 24 hour vwap: 85.76934
Mar 27 22:14:14 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154089.0;all
Mar 27 22:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	this shit is so funny...
Mar 27 22:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	basically we have mpex ; havelock/bf/btct ; icbit/bitfinex/picostocks/bitbillions/whatever was the other two or three shits
Mar 27 22:16:45 <benkay>	oh mircea
Mar 27 22:16:50 <benkay>	everyone knows you da keeeng
Mar 27 22:17:09 <Bowjob>	https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/
Mar 27 22:17:14 <Bowjob>	wowoweewa
Mar 27 22:18:00 <Bowjob>	virtex is trading at 94-93
Mar 27 22:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
Mar 27 22:19:30 <benkay>	ugh bitfloor is tres pricey
Mar 27 22:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	king dongs
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Mar 27 22:21:45 <dub>	wheres the top nignogs
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Mar 27 22:21:52 <dub>	im going bush for the weekend
Mar 27 22:22:19 <smickles>	"Seeing your picture my grandchild starts crying."
Mar 27 22:23:40 <dub>	punctuate.
Mar 27 22:25:12 <dub>	I got an IT upgrade last night, 7 hours of trying to restore my environment later I notice it included an upgrade from i5 to i3
Mar 27 22:25:26 <dub>	motherfucking IT
Mar 27 22:26:10 <dub>	and im wondering why I can't get my displays looking right, I've got a mix of vga and hdmi
Mar 27 22:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
Mar 27 22:33:10 <benkay>	;;24hr
Mar 27 22:33:10 <gribble>	Error: "24hr" is not a valid command.
Mar 27 22:33:26 <benkay>	what's the 24hr volume weighted pan-exchange command?
Mar 27 22:33:28 <benkay>	!help
Mar 27 22:33:29 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 27 22:33:30 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
Mar 27 22:33:32 <assbot>	!last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
Mar 27 22:33:32 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 27 22:33:33 <benkay>	;;help
Mar 27 22:33:33 <assbot>	!rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
Mar 27 22:33:34 <assbot>	!exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
Mar 27 22:34:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.54999999 BTC [-]
Mar 27 22:35:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00061111 = 2.5667 BTC [+]
Mar 27 22:46:09 <dub>	;;bc,24hrprc
Mar 27 22:46:10 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 27 22:46:22 <dub>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 27 22:46:24 <gribble>	86.14
Mar 27 22:46:32 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 90
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Mar 27 22:46:35 <gribble>	There are currently 3025.6297 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 271002.407595 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
Mar 27 22:47:02 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/LDafgTB.png
Mar 27 22:51:01 <benkay>	;;bc,24hrprc
Mar 27 22:51:01 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hrprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 27 22:51:11 <benkay>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 27 22:51:12 <gribble>	86.15
Mar 27 22:52:06 <benkay>	i could post a photo of the cluster i provisioned today bowjob, but nobody would care about that either
Mar 27 22:52:13 <benkay>	;)
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Mar 27 23:01:31 <taub>	what is 1 satoshi?
Mar 27 23:01:59 <ThickAsThieves>	the lowest decimal in btc
Mar 27 23:02:10 <taub>	k
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Mar 27 23:05:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 85
Mar 27 23:05:27 <gribble>	There are currently 4056.8055 bitcoins demanded at or over 85.0 USD, worth 347975.37255 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0069 seconds
Mar 27 23:05:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 90
Mar 27 23:05:28 <gribble>	There are currently 3146.6691 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 281803.230698 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1.0894 seconds
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Mar 27 23:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.81 = 3.62 BTC [+]
Mar 27 23:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00061111 = 2.6889 BTC [+]
Mar 27 23:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.415 = 0.83 BTC [-]
Mar 27 23:10:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41100001 BTC [-]
Mar 27 23:10:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.411 = 2.877 BTC [-]
Mar 27 23:17:54 <Chaang-Noi>	taub .00000001 BTC
Mar 27 23:18:43 <dub>	right, if you guys could sell long and hard over the weekend
Mar 27 23:18:52 <dub>	I expect $2 on my return
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Mar 27 23:22:09 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 27 23:22:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.50002, Best ask: 88.79998, Bid-ask spread: 0.29996, Last trade: 88.80000, 24 hour volume: 63920.96848732, 24 hour low: 80.00000, 24 hour high: 89.49999, 24 hour vwap: 86.30880
Mar 27 23:22:27 <Chaang-Noi>	dub lol
Mar 27 23:22:44 <Chaang-Noi>	dub maybe a correctiopn but that is too much unless you foprgot a 6 in front of that 2
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Mar 27 23:23:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.37 = 1.85 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 23:25:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 28 @ 0.0045 = 0.126 BTC [+]
Mar 27 23:28:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [+]
Mar 27 23:29:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.003 BTC [-]
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Mar 27 23:29:41 <Namworld>	How goes it Chaang?
Mar 27 23:30:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.681007 BTC [-]
Mar 27 23:31:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [+]
Mar 27 23:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.411 = 0.822 BTC [-]
Mar 27 23:33:03 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcointalk down?
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Mar 27 23:39:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.739995 = 7.4 BTC [+]
Mar 27 23:43:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.739995 = 7.4 BTC [+]
Mar 27 23:47:22 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like sdice is having site issues
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Mar 27 23:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.85 = 9.25 BTC [+]
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Mar 27 23:54:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 27 23:54:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.55000, Best ask: 88.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.14999, Last trade: 88.55000, 24 hour volume: 62745.50717818, 24 hour low: 80.20000, 24 hour high: 89.49999, 24 hour vwap: 86.51989
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Mar 28 00:00:34 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl shipped yet?
Mar 28 00:01:06 *	da2ce7 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
Mar 28 00:02:08 <Ukto>	hah
Mar 28 00:05:43 <ThickAsThieves>	gox bid walls
Mar 28 00:06:14 <Namworld>	lol... BFL
Mar 28 00:06:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 88
Mar 28 00:06:19 <gribble>	There are currently 3169.5686 bitcoins demanded at or over 88.0 USD, worth 280682.429627 USD in total. | Data vintage: 66.0537 seconds
Mar 28 00:06:22 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 90
Mar 28 00:06:29 <gribble>	There are currently 2523.3263 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 226487.702015 USD in total. | Data vintage: 75.5322 seconds
Mar 28 00:06:54 <Namworld>	sucks tho...
Mar 28 00:07:02 <Namworld>	for gigavps who owns hashing
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Mar 28 00:07:13 <Namworld>	and I have a free upgrade to get on that =/
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Mar 28 00:28:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00399996 = 0.04 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 00:32:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 28 00:32:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.31000, Best ask: 89.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 89.49000, 24 hour volume: 63222.99073164, 24 hour low: 80.20000, 24 hour high: 89.49999, 24 hour vwap: 86.62977
Mar 28 00:32:56 <Chaang-Noi>	hey Luke-Jr still in KC?
Mar 28 00:33:08 <Luke-Jr>	nope
Mar 28 00:33:12 <Luke-Jr>	left last Friday
Mar 28 00:33:23 <Chaang-Noi>	were you able to accomplish what they wanted you to?
Mar 28 00:33:32 <Luke-Jr>	not even got started
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Mar 28 00:33:43 <Chaang-Noi>	that sucks
Mar 28 00:33:46 <Luke-Jr>	at least on the main goals
Mar 28 00:34:02 <Chaang-Noi>	can you give us a rough eta on anything?
Mar 28 00:34:16 <Luke-Jr>	nothing more than BFL themselves have
Mar 28 00:34:21 <toffoo>	what was the issue that prevented you from getting started?
Mar 28 00:34:26 <Luke-Jr>	I concur with their expectation of shipping next week
Mar 28 00:34:31 <Luke-Jr>	toffoo: no boards working yet
Mar 28 00:34:55 <Chaang-Noi>	you think willship next week? really?
Mar 28 00:35:48 <Luke-Jr>	it's possible it could slip, but I think so
Mar 28 00:36:02 <Chaang-Noi>	okaycool thanks
Mar 28 00:36:07 <Luke-Jr>	(until I see an actual board hashing, it's always possible to slip)
Mar 28 00:36:08 <Chaang-Noi>	april 1st would be awesomed
Mar 28 00:36:12 <Chaang-Noi>	sure
Mar 28 00:36:14 <Luke-Jr>	April 1 is pushing it :P
Mar 28 00:36:25 <Luke-Jr>	I'd expect LATE next week at best
Mar 28 00:36:45 <Chaang-Noi>	understand. april fools day would be too perfect
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Mar 28 00:36:56 <Chaang-Noi>	btw ATH 89.75
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Mar 28 00:37:13 <Luke-Jr>	?
Mar 28 00:37:56 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: btw, I'm pretty sure I concluded you were a troll like a year ago, but you don't seem to be lately - did something change, or did I jump to conclusions too fast?
Mar 28 00:38:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [-]
Mar 28 00:38:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.51245 = 1.5374 BTC [-]
Mar 28 00:38:29 <Chaang-Noi>	Luke-Jr i said they were wrong about their specs
Mar 28 00:38:41 <Chaang-Noi>	i made a big deal about a bet and won,
Mar 28 00:38:49 <Chaang-Noi>	they were 400% off on power usage
Mar 28 00:39:02 <Luke-Jr>	I wouldn't expect it to have been related to BFL or specs
Mar 28 00:39:03 <Chaang-Noi>	their were fail on physics
Mar 28 00:39:04 <Luke-Jr>	but I forget
Mar 28 00:39:15 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
Mar 28 00:39:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know, some people think i troll, and i do at times
Mar 28 00:39:42 <Chaang-Noi>	but for me trolling is an art and i mostly do it to people who are stupid or who i think are morally wrong
Mar 28 00:39:57 <Chaang-Noi>	so yes, i have trolled
Mar 28 00:40:09 <Chaang-Noi>	and i will do it again, but im much much more than just a troll
Mar 28 00:40:15 <Luke-Jr>	I see
Mar 28 00:40:27 <Chaang-Noi>	im very into ltc and btc
Mar 28 00:40:28 <Luke-Jr>	I'm still confused, but I'll have to live with it XD
Mar 28 00:40:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i dont remember exactly why you thought i was trolling but yeah, i troll people from time to time.
Mar 28 00:41:22 <Luke-Jr>	btw, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Mar 28 00:41:44 <Chaang-Noi>	lol:) 4chan
Mar 28 00:41:54 <Chaang-Noi>	duckroll!
Mar 28 00:41:58 <Luke-Jr>	:P
Mar 28 00:42:20 <Chaang-Noi>	btc = 89.9
Mar 28 00:42:29 <Luke-Jr>	TBC over 5 cents :D
Mar 28 00:42:38 <Chaang-Noi>	TBC?
Mar 28 00:42:55 <Luke-Jr>	don't tell me you've forgotten tonal bitcoin!
Mar 28 00:43:27 <Chaang-Noi>	im not sure i evar rememberd
Mar 28 00:43:36 <Chaang-Noi>	coloured coins?
Mar 28 00:43:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.1389 = 0.6945 BTC [-]
Mar 28 00:43:52 <Luke-Jr>	no, tonal is 'hexadecimal for ordinary people'
Mar 28 00:44:10 <Chaang-Noi>	im not in the loop
Mar 28 00:44:21 <Chaang-Noi>	it might be my lack of coffee but i have no idea what you are talking about
Mar 28 00:44:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 31 @ 0.139 = 4.309 BTC [+]
Mar 28 00:44:52 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: you know hexadecimal?
Mar 28 00:45:46 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah of it, i dont know how to use it. im not a CS guy
Mar 28 00:46:04 <Chaang-Noi>	90 in tonal = .05 or something?
Mar 28 00:46:15 <Luke-Jr>	XD no
Mar 28 00:46:30 <Luke-Jr>	10 tonal = 16 decimal
Mar 28 00:46:37 <Luke-Jr>	100 tonal = 256 decimal
Mar 28 00:47:04 <Luke-Jr>	TBC is a bitcoin-compatible altcoin
Mar 28 00:47:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i had no idea about that alt coin
Mar 28 00:47:34 <Chaang-Noi>	honestly i ahve never heard of it
Mar 28 00:47:46 <Luke-Jr>	first thing I did when I discovered bitcoin in 2011 :P
Mar 28 00:48:01 <Chaang-Noi>	first thing i did was mine:)
Mar 28 00:48:08 <Luke-Jr>	mining BTC is the same as mining TBC
Mar 28 00:48:29 <Chaang-Noi>	but one is worth 904 and one is worth 5 cents :)
Mar 28 00:48:35 <Chaang-Noi>	90$
Mar 28 00:48:52 <Luke-Jr>	that's because TBC is tied to Bitcoin at about 1526:1
Mar 28 00:49:13 <Luke-Jr>	you can always get 1525 TBC with 1 BTC, and vice-versa
Mar 28 00:49:25 <Chaang-Noi>	oh
Mar 28 00:49:28 <Chaang-Noi>	cool
Mar 28 00:49:28 <Luke-Jr>	err, I said that wrong ☺
Mar 28 00:50:00 <Luke-Jr>	55 TBC really, but 55 tonal = 1525 decimal
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Mar 28 00:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00060077 = 5.1065 BTC [-]
Mar 28 00:51:15 <Chaang-Noi>	okay
Mar 28 00:51:22 <Chaang-Noi>	well i gotz to go out, catch ya later man
Mar 28 00:51:25 <Luke-Jr>	ttyl
Mar 28 00:51:28 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks for the update on bfl, hope they ship
Mar 28 00:53:16 <bgupta>	so tiberiusiv checked out silk road forums.. there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of folks complaining about how many btc they have or how to turn btc into fiat.
Mar 28 00:53:49 <tiberiusiv>	the larger dealers are having issues
Mar 28 00:54:10 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: its never a huge ammount that hold large balances in the first place
Mar 28 00:54:17 <tiberiusiv>	in BTC small % own all
Mar 28 00:55:54 <bgupta>	I can't find a single post of someone complaining about the issue, do you have a topic#
Mar 28 00:57:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 28 00:57:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.75000, Best ask: 89.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23000, Last trade: 89.98000, 24 hour volume: 63824.17276941, 24 hour low: 80.99999, 24 hour high: 89.99000, 24 hour vwap: 86.77891
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Mar 28 01:17:11 <ThickAsThieves>	90
Mar 28 01:17:39 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 28 01:17:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.99001, Best ask: 90.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 90.00000, 24 hour volume: 63651.19089796, 24 hour low: 81.50000, 24 hour high: 90.00000, 24 hour vwap: 86.88427
Mar 28 01:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.515 = 5.15 BTC [+]
Mar 28 01:18:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.51 = 5.1 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 19 @ 1.85 = 35.15 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 01:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.81 = 5.43 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:23:08 <Bowjob>	Holy shit rally
Mar 28 01:23:10 <Bowjob>	xD
Mar 28 01:23:20 <ThickAsThieves>	same time as yesterday
Mar 28 01:23:44 <Bowjob>	91.60
Mar 28 01:24:16 <Bowjob>	i love seeing 9s
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Mar 28 01:29:47 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Mar 28 01:29:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.01000, Best ask: 92.39563, Bid-ask spread: 0.38563, Last trade: 92.01000, 24 hour volume: 65576.26510413, 24 hour low: 81.65100, 24 hour high: 92.39563, 24 hour vwap: 87.14321
Mar 28 01:29:55 <Namworld>	92.39
Mar 28 01:30:08 <Namworld>	We're going to break 100 no doubt...
Mar 28 01:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:35:21 <Bowjob>	dump
Mar 28 01:35:23 <Bowjob>	;;tocler
Mar 28 01:35:24 <gribble>	Error: "tocler" is not a valid command.
Mar 28 01:35:26 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 01:35:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 91.28688, Best ask: 92.39564, Bid-ask spread: 1.10876, Last trade: 92.39564, 24 hour volume: 65692.67147557, 24 hour low: 81.70001, 24 hour high: 92.39563, 24 hour vwap: 87.15650
Mar 28 01:35:34 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 01:35:35 <gribble>	74.924899 seconds
Mar 28 01:35:45 <Bowjob>	I mean a dump of fiat
Mar 28 01:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.995 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3803 = 0.7606 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:38:34 <Bowjob>	93 dollars almost
Mar 28 01:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1952 @ 0.00398999 = 7.7885 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3803 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:39:59 <Bowjob>	$93
Mar 28 01:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47999991 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 548 @ 0.00398999 = 2.1865 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:41:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7399 BTC [-]
Mar 28 01:43:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0055 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 01:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.47999991 = 1.44 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 02:08:25 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 02:08:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.61000, Best ask: 91.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39000, Last trade: 91.00000, 24 hour volume: 66713.16507022, 24 hour low: 81.78812, 24 hour high: 93.15000, 24 hour vwap: 87.51827
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Mar 28 02:22:41 <Bowjob>	where is that famous quote about bitcoin again
Mar 28 02:22:45 <Bowjob>	when BTC crashed
Mar 28 02:22:55 <Bowjob>	something about riding this bull wherever it takes me
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Mar 28 02:29:49 <taub>	lol
Mar 28 02:29:51 <taub>	at $30?
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Mar 28 02:47:40 <Bowjob>	i dont rmemeber
Mar 28 02:47:51 <Bowjob>	"one hell of a story to tell"
Mar 28 02:47:56 <Bowjob>	it appears on the quote
Mar 28 02:47:58 <Bowjob>	i cant find it
Mar 28 02:51:20 <bgupta>	I know this is a bit off topic, but I've been asked by a US based friend what the best way to buy btc is. (Mine aren't for sale.. or they aren't for sale without significant markup, which I wouldn't want to charge my friend..)
Mar 28 02:57:16 <Bowjob>	why cant you buy it for him
Mar 28 03:08:18 <bgupta>	Well, I am US based as well, and I mined all of mine orginally and my sense is MtGox is screwy now for US folks.
Mar 28 03:08:30 <bgupta>	Bowjob: ^^
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Mar 28 03:09:05 <Bowjob>	just send him 1 honestly.. if he "gets" it, he will spread the word
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Mar 28 03:13:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.107 = 0.535 BTC [-]
Mar 28 03:13:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 8 @ 0.106 = 0.848 BTC [-]
Mar 28 03:13:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Mar 28 03:13:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Mar 28 03:13:50 <bgupta>	meh I'll just buy them for him on mtgox.
Mar 28 03:15:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.721 BTC [-]
Mar 28 03:15:34 <Bowjob>	you can try canadian bitcoins
Mar 28 03:15:37 <Bowjob>	but they are expensive as shit
Mar 28 03:16:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.721 = 1.442 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 03:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 03:33:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.739885 = 7.3989 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 03:40:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 03:49:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.739 = 4.434 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 03:58:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.739 = 1.478 BTC [-]
Mar 28 03:58:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [-]
Mar 28 03:58:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 9 @ 0.0015 = 0.0135 BTC [-]
Mar 28 03:59:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.748995 = 7.49 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 04:00:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.749 = 9.737 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 04:14:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.012 = 0.036 BTC [-]
Mar 28 04:22:04 <Chaang-Noi>	93.5 :)
Mar 28 04:22:24 <Bowjob>	goxlag
Mar 28 04:22:26 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 04:22:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.10000, Best ask: 93.49900, Bid-ask spread: 0.39900, Last trade: 93.49900, 24 hour volume: 61453.75033370, 24 hour low: 83.85372, 24 hour high: 93.50000, 24 hour vwap: 88.38738
Mar 28 04:22:31 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 04:22:32 <gribble>	0.200415 seconds
Mar 28 04:22:35 <Bowjob>	mhm
Mar 28 04:22:38 <Bowjob>	apparently not
Mar 28 04:22:54 <Bowjob>	im looking at the growth
Mar 28 04:22:56 <Bowjob>	its fucking crazy
Mar 28 04:23:01 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 95
Mar 28 04:23:03 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 100
Mar 28 04:23:04 <gribble>	There are currently 2906.3274 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 273575.146789 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 28 04:23:04 <gribble>	There are currently 15483.73 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1509543.00258 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0926 seconds
Mar 28 04:23:12 <Bowjob>	im not sure if im delusional... or are we in a bubble?
Mar 28 04:23:14 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 28 04:23:18 <Chaang-Noi>	both
Mar 28 04:23:23 <tiberiusiv>	bowjob you are both.
Mar 28 04:23:36 <Bowjob>	tiber, I didn't ask you so please stfu.
Mar 28 04:23:37 <Chaang-Noi>	hitiberslav
Mar 28 04:23:38 <Bowjob>	thanks
Mar 28 04:23:44 <tiberiusiv>	cry?
Mar 28 04:23:51 <tiberiusiv>	you wont cashout in time anyway when it bursts
Mar 28 04:24:18 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold already what i need to live on for the next 2 years, im fine :)
Mar 28 04:24:55 <tiberiusiv>	lol you dont count
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Mar 28 04:24:59 <tiberiusiv>	2 years in thailand is like $2k
Mar 28 04:26:20 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah but i sold closer to 200k worth :)
Mar 28 04:26:29 <Chaang-Noi>	no point in being in thailand if you cant ahve fun:)
Mar 28 04:26:40 <tiberiusiv>	true
Mar 28 04:26:52 <tiberiusiv>	100k a year in thailand must go along way
Mar 28 04:26:58 <tiberiusiv>	though the dollar isnt what it used to be
Mar 28 04:27:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i have a good life
Mar 28 04:28:26 <Chaang-Noi>	average monthly wage for thai is like $200 a month, for farang here its like $1k a month (usd)
Mar 28 04:28:54 <tiberiusiv>	where did you expatriate from
Mar 28 04:29:08 <tiberiusiv>	white people are called expats, not immigrants
Mar 28 04:30:17 <Chaang-Noi>	usa
Mar 28 04:30:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00415 = 0.083 BTC [-]
Mar 28 04:30:28 <Chaang-Noi>	farang is thai for expat (white)
Mar 28 04:30:56 <Bowjob>	chang, i had pad ped for lunch
Mar 28 04:31:00 <Bowjob>	that shit was spicy
Mar 28 04:33:19 <Chaang-Noi>	lol you dont know what spicy is:)
Mar 28 04:34:04 <tiberiusiv>	spicy for him is sucking hot sauce out of taco bell packets
Mar 28 04:34:34 <Chaang-Noi>	oh tiberslav you hate everyone?
Mar 28 04:34:49 <Bowjob>	Chang, I've eaten wings that rank about 150,000 scoville units
Mar 28 04:34:51 <Bowjob>	I know my shit
Mar 28 04:35:29 <Bowjob>	http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/14/1622100/restaurant/Vancouver/Whalley/Thai-By-Thai-Surrey
Mar 28 04:35:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00414 = 0.029 BTC [-]
Mar 28 04:35:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.00413 = 0.2065 BTC [-]
Mar 28 04:35:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.004 = 0.008 BTC [-]
Mar 28 04:35:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.004 = 2 BTC [-]
Mar 28 04:35:38 <Bowjob>	some of the cheapest meals around... super yummy too
Mar 28 04:37:55 <Bowjob>	I've had these fuckers for a bet. Eat 5, get $15
Mar 28 04:37:56 <Bowjob>	http://alonsalon.wordpress.com/2010/04/11/wrath-of-the-bobby-wing-part-2-score-alon-2-bobby-wing-5250000/
Mar 28 04:38:26 <Chaang-Noi>	wings and thai food is good stuff
Mar 28 04:38:57 <Bowjob>	yeap
Mar 28 04:39:19 <Bowjob>	im sick of canadian restaurants advertising spicy.. when its not
Mar 28 04:39:22 <ZedsterX>	don't mean to interupt the food channel but has it been determined no dividends for DICE this month?
Mar 28 04:39:38 <Bowjob>	Zed. There might be dividends. wait till the 31st for final tally
Mar 28 04:39:42 <Bowjob>	right now, its nil
Mar 28 04:39:48 <ZedsterX>	oki thx
Mar 28 04:40:12 <ZedsterX>	back to the food :)
Mar 28 04:40:22 <Bowjob>	So yeah, I just barged in this thai restaurant, they asked me if I want it spicy or not. I said yeap, very spicy.
Mar 28 04:40:38 <Bowjob>	they actually delivered.. i was proud of them
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Mar 28 04:47:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01201 BTC [-]
Mar 28 04:50:14 <Chaang-Noi>	thais can do spicy
Mar 28 04:54:33 <Bowjob>	before I got those wings, I signed a waiver that I wont sue them no matter what.. After I ate 5 of em, I felt sick for 5 hours.. then couple hours later.. lets just say they turned into lava
Mar 28 04:54:36 <Bowjob>	on the way out
Mar 28 04:54:59 <Bowjob>	it wasnt worth 15 dollars.. but looking back at it, it was hilarious
Mar 28 04:58:07 <bgupta>	so if it breaks 100 will we rally or retrace.. feel like $100 is a psycological barrier akin to $1 and $10, both of which saw pretty big rallies (after much testing)
Mar 28 04:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.411 = 2.055 BTC [+]
Mar 28 04:59:43 <Chaang-Noi>	btc price i dont even know anymore but 9i have champagne
Mar 28 04:59:50 <Chaang-Noi>	on ice
Mar 28 04:59:51 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159974.0
Mar 28 05:00:32 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah its a bitcoinica clone right
Mar 28 05:00:35 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 28 05:01:34 <bgupta>	what's bizarre to me is that my trading profit from the past 3 weeks is now actually worth something.. and seems it was worth my time even though it wasn't that many btc. 14-16% increase in btc denominated holdings in 3 weeks of trading.
Mar 28 05:02:07 <Chaang-Noi>	mpt bad
Mar 28 05:02:10 <bgupta>	Freaking amazin increase in value if you consider fiat value.
Mar 28 05:02:19 <Chaang-Noi>	yes:)
Mar 28 05:02:29 <Chaang-Noi>	good to be a bull on a run
Mar 28 05:02:40 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 05:02:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.18717, Best ask: 93.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.31083, Last trade: 93.49800, 24 hour volume: 60078.11941203, 24 hour low: 84.20002, 24 hour high: 93.50000, 24 hour vwap: 88.61997
Mar 28 05:02:47 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 05:02:48 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 28 05:02:51 <bgupta>	the only problem is I can't really sleep much
Mar 28 05:02:54 <Bowjob>	Ooh
Mar 28 05:02:56 <Bowjob>	same
Mar 28 05:02:57 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 28 05:03:00 <bgupta>	since this shit runns around the clock.
Mar 28 05:03:09 <bgupta>	brb
Mar 28 05:03:22 <Bowjob>	my timing was pretty good. i bought in januaray
Mar 28 05:03:28 <Bowjob>	january
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Mar 28 05:04:44 <Chaang-Noi>	ATH
Mar 28 05:05:15 <Chaang-Noi>	fucking gox lag
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Mar 28 05:06:19 <ZedsterX>	it's a holiday i think they need to relax
Mar 28 05:06:33 <Chaang-Noi>	holiday?
Mar 28 05:06:45 <Chaang-Noi>	in japan?
Mar 28 05:06:45 <ZedsterX>	easter weekend
Mar 28 05:06:56 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 94
Mar 28 05:06:59 <gribble>	There are currently 333.01557 bitcoins offered at or under 94.0 USD, worth 31303.4592214 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Mar 28 05:07:03 <Bowjob>	cypriots open in one hour
Mar 28 05:07:04 <Chaang-Noi>	oh yeah, japan is big on easter, lol
Mar 28 05:07:07 <ZedsterX>	hehe nah just those that follow that jesus dude
Mar 28 05:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob that'll be fun to watch
Mar 28 05:07:30 <Chaang-Noi>	zombies are cool
Mar 28 05:07:38 <Bowjob>	yeap. i'll watch the markets. heh
Mar 28 05:07:49 <Chaang-Noi>	in cyprus you can only get 300 euro out a day anyway
Mar 28 05:08:01 <Bowjob>	i thought it was 100
Mar 28 05:08:09 <Chaang-Noi>	might be
Mar 28 05:08:10 <Bowjob>	anyway, im sure they will take what they can
Mar 28 05:08:12 <ZedsterX>	cypriots??
Mar 28 05:08:15 <Chaang-Noi>	but its fuck all
Mar 28 05:08:37 <Bowjob>	oh its 300
Mar 28 05:08:44 <ZedsterX>	cyprus is definitely in holiday mode
Mar 28 05:08:44 <Bowjob>	well,, those 300 adds up.
Mar 28 05:09:07 <Bowjob>	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9957481/Cypriots-face-draconian-cash-controls-to-stop-run-on-banks.html
Mar 28 05:09:35 <Bowjob>	id be pissed off if it takes me 1 month to pull 9 grand
Mar 28 05:10:47 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 84
Mar 28 05:10:49 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 84.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds
Mar 28 05:10:50 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 94
Mar 28 05:10:51 <gribble>	There are currently 331.00957 bitcoins offered at or under 94.0 USD, worth 31114.8695592 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.8232 seconds
Mar 28 05:10:55 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 95
Mar 28 05:10:55 <gribble>	There are currently 1358.6874 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 128551.288164 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.9807 seconds
Mar 28 05:11:03 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 99
Mar 28 05:11:03 <gribble>	There are currently 10174.928 bitcoins offered at or under 99.0 USD, worth 989746.147981 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.7487 seconds
Mar 28 05:11:20 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 94
Mar 28 05:11:20 <gribble>	There are currently 331.00957 bitcoins offered at or under 94.0 USD, worth 31114.8695592 USD in total. | Data vintage: 31.2242 seconds
Mar 28 05:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi pm srsly.
Mar 28 05:11:31 <Chaang-Noi>	this bot is slow
Mar 28 05:16:19 <bgupta>	where is all the buying coming from?
Mar 28 05:16:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6433 @ 0.00061111 = 3.9313 BTC [+]
Mar 28 05:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.defectivebydesign.org/no-drm-in-html5
Mar 28 05:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	fuckwits.
Mar 28 05:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	so im guessing html5 is pretty much dead ?
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Mar 28 05:18:31 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: What's your interest in DRM?
Mar 28 05:18:37 <taub>	it hungers
Mar 28 05:19:30 <Bowjob>	i feel bad for ATC777. he sold at 72, been a bear since. he owes me like 3.5 BTC
Mar 28 05:19:33 <Bowjob>	this rally
Mar 28 05:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta i can't stand it.
Mar 28 05:20:00 <Chaang-Noi>	ath
Mar 28 05:20:02 <bgupta>	Oh so… you are cursing the people the defective by design people are fighting?
Mar 28 05:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	yea...
Mar 28 05:20:25 <bgupta>	(DBD is an FSF campaign)...
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Mar 28 05:20:31 <mircea_popescu>	there's a lot of issues involved
Mar 28 05:20:39 <bgupta>	I was actually at LibrePlanet this past weekend.
Mar 28 05:20:44 <bgupta>	so I know the issues.
Mar 28 05:20:44 <mircea_popescu>	for one, mixing regulation and standard is possibly the one point where american idiocy shines.
Mar 28 05:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	the standard must mesh on reality, and the standard must specifically allow  things that are illegal.
Mar 28 05:21:15 <Chaang-Noi>	mp the ONE point?
Mar 28 05:21:21 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi i think so.
Mar 28 05:21:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i think you mean A point? one of many?
Mar 28 05:21:37 <Bowjob>	just hit 94
Mar 28 05:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	much like a gun will shoot at a child, puppy, policeman or president as well as it will shoot at a bank robber, rapist etc
Mar 28 05:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	so must every item we ever make be perfectly neutral.
Mar 28 05:21:59 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi no i think it's actually THE point.
Mar 28 05:22:17 <Chaang-Noi>	man, i think it shines all over the place
Mar 28 05:22:18 <bgupta>	THe biggest issue right now, is that big media is fucking the world.
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Mar 28 05:22:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not know you were so pro usa before
Mar 28 05:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta nah, it's that "well meaning" and "polite" idiots are tring to enmesh their _mistaken_ assumptions into the very world they inhabit.
Mar 28 05:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	this is much akin to dementia.
Mar 28 05:23:07 <bgupta>	ALl these insane laws that keep popping up are all big media trojan horses..
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Mar 28 05:23:31 <mircea_popescu>	they're just symptoms of a generalised attempt to make the world more like "it should be"
Mar 28 05:23:37 <bgupta>	SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, CISPA.. etc.
Mar 28 05:23:38 <Chaang-Noi>	how much do you think one of the first bfl assics, the 60 ghs one would be worth on the open market assuming they shipped next week?
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Mar 28 05:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi prolly 5k-ish
Mar 28 05:23:58 <Chaang-Noi>	mp in btc?
Mar 28 05:24:02 <Chaang-Noi>	or usd?
Mar 28 05:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	no in dollars
Mar 28 05:24:05 <bgupta>	no they have a stupid monopoly that they are trying to hang onto, and keep printing money
Mar 28 05:24:07 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Mar 28 05:24:41 <bgupta>	copyright laws have run amok..
Mar 28 05:24:47 <Chaang-Noi>	correction now
Mar 28 05:24:50 <bgupta>	particularly in the US…
Mar 28 05:25:05 <taub>	here we go
Mar 28 05:25:08 <taub>	going to zero
Mar 28 05:25:14 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont get it, why wait until we get a new ath then sell off, iv seen this more than once
Mar 28 05:25:21 <Chaang-Noi>	trying to cool the market?
Mar 28 05:25:50 <Chaang-Noi>	then a low wall at 92.8 wtf?
Mar 28 05:26:09 <bgupta>	well if you have a large position the only way to unload is to sell into strength..
Mar 28 05:26:28 <Chaang-Noi>	91 now
Mar 28 05:26:36 <Bowjob>	94,92
Mar 28 05:26:38 <taub>	at 90
Mar 28 05:26:41 <taub>	the hoarders come out
Mar 28 05:26:42 <taub>	to play
Mar 28 05:26:42 <Bowjob>	some chaotic fighting
Mar 28 05:26:46 <Chaang-Noi>	it went from 91 right to 94    the spread is huge
Mar 28 05:26:47 <Bowjob>	i will watch this
Mar 28 05:26:58 <Bowjob>	chang where are you watching from
Mar 28 05:27:07 <Chaang-Noi>	my chair
Mar 28 05:27:18 <Chaang-Noi>	at home
Mar 28 05:27:21 <bgupta>	mmm. mtgox is still showing 94.34ish
Mar 28 05:27:22 <Bowjob>	derp
Mar 28 05:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.3243953 = 324.3953 BTC [+]
Mar 28 05:27:28 <Bowjob>	link?
Mar 28 05:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.30214597 = 302.146 BTC [+]
Mar 28 05:27:42 <Bowjob>	i watch this shit from coinlab
Mar 28 05:27:50 <bgupta>	ah just dropped to 93.25
Mar 28 05:28:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.27989663 = 279.8966 BTC [+]
Mar 28 05:28:32 <taub>	it froze :|
Mar 28 05:28:41 <Chaang-Noi>	gox lag
Mar 28 05:29:42 <bgupta>	damn this coinlab changover is lame
Mar 28 05:29:44 <Chaang-Noi>	http://falkvinge.net/2013/03/06/the-target-value-for-bitcoin-is-not-some-50-or-100-it-is-100000-to-1000000/
Mar 28 05:29:51 <taub>	yea well not for now
Mar 28 05:29:59 <Chaang-Noi>	chaang-over?
Mar 28 05:30:04 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi he just copied http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/ one month later :D
Mar 28 05:30:05 <taub>	lol
Mar 28 05:30:06 <bgupta>	for US folks.
Mar 28 05:30:20 <Chaang-Noi>	ill read it
Mar 28 05:32:43 <Bowjob>	cant wait to see my coin tomorrow.. the one molec sent
Mar 28 05:32:54 <Namworld>	Someone selling calls?
Mar 28 05:33:00 <Chaang-Noi>	they are nice bowjob
Mar 28 05:33:02 *	toffoo has been re-reminded that mircea_popescu's blog has a paywall   lol
Mar 28 05:33:16 <Chaang-Noi>	pay walls:)
Mar 28 05:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo :D
Mar 28 05:33:40 <toffoo>	is there some javascript way to get past it like NYT ?   ;D
Mar 28 05:33:41 <Chaang-Noi>	tor? :)
Mar 28 05:33:46 <toffoo>	there you go
Mar 28 05:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	it's a gentle reminder that if you read somebody's stuff daily perhaps you should pay a centy
Mar 28 05:33:56 <toffoo>	unless he's cookieing me
Mar 28 05:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo no. actually there's an artcile mocking the newcomer nyt for their failure
Mar 28 05:34:38 <mircea_popescu>	(at the time nyt joined trilema had been charging for content for > a year. it's really the first publisher on the web to do it)
Mar 28 05:34:56 <taub>	well its not quite at the top i'm fishing at
Mar 28 05:34:57 <taub>	and
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Mar 28 05:35:03 <taub>	it didnt even take out a swing low
Mar 28 05:35:03 <Bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/CEJf0Rk.png
Mar 28 05:35:04 <toffoo>	you're a pioneer in so many ways
Mar 28 05:35:08 <Bowjob>	Bullish signal
Mar 28 05:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	ikr ?
Mar 28 05:35:22 <Bowjob>	the double wizard pattern
Mar 28 05:35:26 <taub>	lol
Mar 28 05:35:27 <mircea_popescu>	lmao Bowjob
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Mar 28 05:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	that's analytical antisemitism
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Mar 28 05:36:38 <bgupta>	What's interesting is I don't think I will ever plan to convert btc into fiat again.. (Bearing in mind currently btc is a small but ever growing fraction of my networth)… If I need something I will spend my fiat, and keep my btc. If I ever need something beyond the abilities to pay with fiat, I'll pay directly with btc.
Mar 28 05:36:58 <toffoo>	Chaang-Noi mircea_popescu I wrote an email to friedcat last night asking him to clarify the issue of the "missing" 6 TH ...
Mar 28 05:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta that's what i did for ~2 years.
Mar 28 05:37:03 <taub>	i do think we are bound for a big retracement
Mar 28 05:37:06 <taub>	at some point
Mar 28 05:37:09 <taub>	50% why not
Mar 28 05:37:14 <taub>	this has gone up way too fast
Mar 28 05:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo lemme know if he answers anything worth the mention then.
Mar 28 05:37:30 <bgupta>	I don't trade btc/usd. I accept the volitility.
Mar 28 05:38:06 <toffoo>	I interpret his reply to mean that it's been a space or power issue … I quote:
Mar 28 05:38:55 <bgupta>	you quote?
Mar 28 05:38:57 <toffoo>	"The rest devices are waiting to be deployed in the new place, which is under active construction to fit in both the first and the next batch of devices. They should be online sooner than the next batch, which is also close."
Mar 28 05:39:16 <mircea_popescu>	this doesn't count as worth the mention to me.
Mar 28 05:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	if i had an ops manager who had the equivalent of asics waiting in boxes for ~2 months i wouldn't just fire him
Mar 28 05:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	i'd fire him in such a way he's never hired again by anyone anywhere.
Mar 28 05:39:49 <toffoo>	well I previously didn't know that finding a place for these super chips was an issue
Mar 28 05:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	unless he goes to india or some shit.
Mar 28 05:40:05 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: The big news for me is that the have or are working on a third batch, to bring total hashing to 200TH
Mar 28 05:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	listen, that's not big news.
Mar 28 05:40:20 <toffoo>	good thing i don't work for you
Mar 28 05:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	that's nonsense news. "sometime in the indefinite future BIG NUMBERS"
Mar 28 05:40:27 <taub>	getting a fight or flight feeling from this movement...
Mar 28 05:40:29 <mircea_popescu>	not how business is done.
Mar 28 05:40:38 <taub>	shits gonna go down
Mar 28 05:41:03 <bgupta>	you guys don't really like this mining company?
Mar 28 05:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo well, suppose you got a hot chick ready and willing and you kept her waiting february to april because you couldn't find a place.
Mar 28 05:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	it just dun wash
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Mar 28 05:41:40 <toffoo>	i hate when that happens
Mar 28 05:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta i like the part where they're hashing. i dislike the part where i suspect they're lieing.
Mar 28 05:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.3258973 = 325.8973 BTC [+]
Mar 28 05:43:10 <mircea_popescu>	heh i like how the de-facto lot in options is 1k
Mar 28 05:43:14 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 28 05:43:15 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 61.30265123 / 81.54539345 / 81.56783226 (54813 shares, 7,964.16 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Mar 28 05:44:09 <bgupta>	Being someone who did a small scale GPU mining operation 2 years ago. I can say the power/cooling/space issues aren't something traditional ops managers can deal with, nor are traditional datacenters built for this kind of operation.. I had to get many additional power circuits pulled in.
Mar 28 05:44:43 <bgupta>	I know what they are doing is not trivial, considering that they aren't just mining
Mar 28 05:45:03 <bgupta>	intersting news that maybe avalon will deploy 3rd batch for their own mining operation
Mar 28 05:45:23 <bgupta>	leaving only bfl for the masses.. (if they ever ship)
Mar 28 05:45:31 <Bowjob>	they will deploy 100 units for themselves
Mar 28 05:45:33 <Bowjob>	probably
Mar 28 05:45:39 <bgupta>	dfl?
Mar 28 05:45:41 <Bowjob>	since it used to be 600 units for pre order
Mar 28 05:45:43 <bgupta>	err bfl?
Mar 28 05:45:49 <Bowjob>	no avalon
Mar 28 05:45:51 <Bowjob>	bfl wont ship
Mar 28 05:45:53 <Bowjob>	forget them
Mar 28 05:46:21 <Bowjob>	ask the guy who bet 500 BTC on yes that BFL would ship by march 1st
Mar 28 05:46:47 <bgupta>	if bfl truly never ships, then asicminer is certainly undervalued..
Mar 28 05:47:11 <Bowjob>	avalon may need to step their game up
Mar 28 05:47:19 <bgupta>	I still find that challenging to believe they will never ship..
Mar 28 05:47:49 <Bowjob>	we may not need a "june betting thread for BFL"
Mar 28 05:47:52 <bgupta>	I'm wondering if their is a dark horse out there.. that we don't know about now.
Mar 28 05:47:54 <toffoo>	i have a feeling the asic race is something they'll be reading about in business school textbooks some day
Mar 28 05:48:01 <Bowjob>	they will be exposed as a scam
Mar 28 05:49:24 <toffoo>	only in the loosest sense of the word
Mar 28 05:50:50 <Bowjob>	"Niger    	        $1,064,000,000.00	 $97.44"
Mar 28 05:50:56 <bgupta>	bear in mind all of these companies are rank amateurs muddling their ways through this.. companies like amd/intel/ti they would have shipped.
Mar 28 05:50:58 <Bowjob>	Wtf. didnt know they had that much
Mar 28 05:51:36 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta this isn't gpu mining.
Mar 28 05:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	asics.
Mar 28 05:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	the total specified power draw is something like 10kw
Mar 28 05:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	say they actually need 20. 20kw is NOT a big deal.
Mar 28 05:52:23 <bgupta>	I understand.. this would have been mickey mouse work, for the big silicon companies.
Mar 28 05:52:39 <mircea_popescu>	no, this would have been mickey m,ouse work for my neighbour, who never went to college
Mar 28 05:52:59 <mircea_popescu>	but he has a 32kw line installed because he has a pump and whatever other shit
Mar 28 05:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo i guess pretty much everything we do in bitcoin these early days will become revered a century later.
Mar 28 05:55:07 <Bowjob>	u will be known as hosting the biggest btc exchange
Mar 28 05:55:15 <Bowjob>	and also for hosting a porn site
Mar 28 05:55:17 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 28 05:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	haha o hey, i just realised : i got it easy
Mar 28 05:55:44 <mircea_popescu>	i'll go down in history as "the only romanian that ever..."
Mar 28 05:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	kinda sucks being from the uk for this purpose.
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Mar 28 05:56:16 <bgupta>	btcQuick seems scammy
Mar 28 05:57:08 <bgupta>	err.. google checkout? they don't think that once google gets wind of it they won't just shut it down
Mar 28 05:57:32 <bgupta>	and it's reversable.
Mar 28 05:57:39 <Bowjob>	that mpex buttpen pic would show up as one of the most powerful examples of btc
Mar 28 05:57:42 <Namworld>	they apparently won a chargeback... apparently...
Mar 28 05:57:45 <Namworld>	is the word
Mar 28 05:58:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.32597223 = 325.9722 BTC [+]
Mar 28 05:58:48 <Namworld>	Bitfunder has an asset bot in #bitfunder now. I hope to see it added to assbot soon
Mar 28 05:58:51 <bgupta>	not as bad though as ziggap...
Mar 28 05:59:01 <Namworld>	What's up with ziggap?
Mar 28 05:59:22 <bgupta>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.0
Mar 28 05:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	afaik aethero's thing neh ?
Mar 28 05:59:46 <bgupta>	yeah
Mar 28 05:59:51 <Namworld>	So? As far as I know, it's doing okay.
Mar 28 06:00:42 <bgupta>	Aren't they basically at risk of being shut down for failing to register as a financial institution?
Mar 28 06:00:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.728 BTC [-]
Mar 28 06:00:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.726 BTC [-]
Mar 28 06:00:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.725 = 14.5 BTC [-]
Mar 28 06:01:06 <Namworld>	Where is aethero located?
Mar 28 06:01:36 <bgupta>	I saw mention of Bank of America?
Mar 28 06:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta everyone with the notable exception of bitcoin-central is.
Mar 28 06:01:59 <mircea_popescu>	this includes mthox, coin*, cavirtex, you name it.
Mar 28 06:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	some people are working with it, some people aren't, but licenses nobody has.
Mar 28 06:03:08 <Namworld>	The law, so far, doesn't care much about Bitcoins...
Mar 28 06:03:08 <bgupta>	"ZigGap is made up of a team of dedicated Bitcoin service professionals located in the eastern United States."
Mar 28 06:03:14 <Namworld>	It seems...
Mar 28 06:03:40 <toffoo>	coin*  lol
Mar 28 06:03:43 <Namworld>	And according to lawyers that were consulted, there's not much yet...
Mar 28 06:03:51 <Namworld>	I believe
Mar 28 06:03:52 <bgupta>	I'm concerned about an USA based btc business that exchanges fiat for btc..
Mar 28 06:04:02 <Namworld>	Ask Ukto or Burnside, both in the USA
Mar 28 06:04:12 <Namworld>	and running a BTC asset exchange
Mar 28 06:04:20 <bgupta>	Burnsides incorporated somewhere else.
Mar 28 06:04:29 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld you're confusing things tho. burnside isn't touching fiat afaik.
Mar 28 06:04:31 <bgupta>	some island nation
Mar 28 06:04:45 <Namworld>	yeah, he took another approach. Ukto is in the USA tho I believe.
Mar 28 06:05:05 <bgupta>	Barbados maybe?
Mar 28 06:05:11 <Namworld>	Ah yes, burnside doesn't touch fiat.
Mar 28 06:05:15 <bgupta>	no Belize
Mar 28 06:05:15 <Namworld>	Belize
Mar 28 06:05:31 <bgupta>	Assuming he did his homework there.
Mar 28 06:06:44 <bgupta>	Belize is on of those "Offshore Banking" countries that doesn't really deal well with the US
Mar 28 06:07:13 <tiberiusiv>	anyone that deals in USD has to deal with the US.
Mar 28 06:07:23 <tiberiusiv>	the accounts are all held in US intermediary banks
Mar 28 06:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159935.0 win
Mar 28 06:08:12 <bgupta>	well technically I don't think burnside deals in USD? Why would he have to?
Mar 28 06:08:15 <tiberiusiv>	US users + USD volumes are still the majority of BTC and thats unlikely to change in our lifetime
Mar 28 06:09:21 <pigeons>	citation needed
Mar 28 06:09:41 <bgupta>	tiberiusiv: sigh.. wtf are you talking about.. you just jumped into a convo..
Mar 28 06:09:48 <bgupta>	brb
Mar 28 06:09:56 <tiberiusiv>	it dont matter if belize is offshore
Mar 28 06:10:04 <tiberiusiv>	if they hold USD accounts they are still in the US banking system
Mar 28 06:10:19 <tiberiusiv>	they have custodian banks inside the US
Mar 28 06:10:21 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons screenshot good enough neh ?
Mar 28 06:10:23 <tiberiusiv>	that hold their funds for them
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Mar 28 06:12:53 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: talking to tiberiusiv, maybe you have him on ignore, i was considering it
Mar 28 06:13:18 <tiberiusiv>	mp is a gypsy whose exchange will fade away into obscurity
Mar 28 06:13:33 <tiberiusiv>	he is not going to be at the forefront of future BTC developments
Mar 28 06:14:02 <pigeons>	yeah i think we've all heard that tiberiusiv
Mar 28 06:14:03 <tiberiusiv>	being that he is quite intelligent im sure he will speed up his methods of getting people to buy his worthless shares
Mar 28 06:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	o
Mar 28 06:15:03 <pigeons>	the only thing more boring than listening to how great mp is, is listening to how bad he is
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Mar 28 06:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not boring ;/
Mar 28 06:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons by the way, i wish to know why isn't ripple whipping the otc btc/usd traders into a huge behemoth of fury that wrests currency exchange from mtgox ?
Mar 28 06:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	NEVER a better opportunity could have come their way, this is what ripple is for right ? why's it not doing it!
Mar 28 06:16:36 <pigeons>	cause its beta and there are bugs but it is
Mar 28 06:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see it ? am i not looking right ?
Mar 28 06:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.495 = 9.9 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 06:17:41 <bgupta>	haven't followed ripple too closely yet..
Mar 28 06:17:49 <mircea_popescu>	well me either, but i think he does.
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Mar 28 06:17:52 <bgupta>	something to pay attention to?
Mar 28 06:18:23 <bgupta>	I kinda feel like btc is where it's at.. alternacoins don't interest me..
Mar 28 06:18:23 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno.
Mar 28 06:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	it's not exactly an altcoin tho. it's a sort of - as best i can determine - blockchain-y iou management system
Mar 28 06:18:47 <bgupta>	liquidity in btc is bad enough as it is..
Mar 28 06:19:01 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: you cant know from looking at a ripple address that the btc or fiat balances are markers for funds at the liquidity pools behind the exchanges, or if they are worthless ious unless you are in the pools
Mar 28 06:19:01 <bgupta>	I see.
Mar 28 06:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/317213908769325056 check that
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Mar 28 06:19:24 <bgupta>	yeah, I saw that..
Mar 28 06:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	1bn baby
Mar 28 06:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	i drank so much champagne this month ;/
Mar 28 06:19:41 <bgupta>	well not your twitter post but the total value.
Mar 28 06:19:45 <Bowjob>	we're just getting started
Mar 28 06:19:49 <Bowjob>	its like baby steps for btc
Mar 28 06:19:59 <Bowjob>	uguu~
Mar 28 06:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.49 = 9.8 BTC [-]
Mar 28 06:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h vtx
Mar 28 06:20:22 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.47999991 / 0.54371502 / 0.59500000 (243 shares, 132.12274963 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.4265498 / 0.79900000 (11528 shares, 4917.26606448 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.42674388 / 0.79900000 (11652 shares, 4972.41966448 BTC)
Mar 28 06:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.32784 = 327.84 BTC [+]
Mar 28 06:21:35 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: oh i see you were asking why ripple's decentralized trading hasnt replaced centralised exchanges like mtgox
Mar 28 06:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	yes!
Mar 28 06:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	there's some strength in the otc market, and they're doing things mostly pen on paper.
Mar 28 06:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	why isn't this thing empowering the otc to take over!
Mar 28 06:22:45 <bgupta>	how new is ripple?
Mar 28 06:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	~6 months ?
Mar 28 06:23:04 <pigeons>	main reason is client software is buggy beta, trust of potential users is low so far, server software is in flux, protocol changes so no server source yet except for partners so no decentralization yet
Mar 28 06:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons who exactly is doing ripple ?
Mar 28 06:23:26 <pigeons>	bgupta: ryan fugger started the ripple concept in 2006 i think
Mar 28 06:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	i ddin't realise it's a closed source model
Mar 28 06:23:57 <pigeons>	jed mcaleb who started mtgox started a company to buy ripple from ryan
Mar 28 06:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 28 06:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	so basically a lot of owners, no strategist, no capital and so forth.
Mar 28 06:24:42 <pigeons>	it is open source model, client is open, server source not open yet, but breaking changes coming every few days so source when stable
Mar 28 06:24:43 <Chaang-Noi>	95.7 we have had so many aths end at .70 or .778
Mar 28 06:25:23 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: they have strategy and capital, wether the strategy is any good remains to be seen
Mar 28 06:25:32 <bgupta>	reading: http://p2pfoundation.net/Ripple
Mar 28 06:25:43 <Bowjob>	-= Galaxy 1 - 20nm ASIC Announcement =-
Mar 28 06:25:46 <Bowjob>	is this shit for real
Mar 28 06:25:48 <Bowjob>	20mm asic
Mar 28 06:25:59 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob that was ages ago and lol no
Mar 28 06:26:07 <Chaang-Noi>	20mm are you on crack? lol
Mar 28 06:26:09 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob if it's real it'd be good.
Mar 28 06:26:14 <pigeons>	bgupta: yes but when bitcoin people currently talk about ripple they presently usually mean jed's opencoin inc implementation at ripple.com
Mar 28 06:26:23 <Bowjob>	its on the mining forum lol
Mar 28 06:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	"We have to keep our Intellectual Property protected and abide by NDA we have signed with chip manufactures so please understand that there are some things that I can't divulge, but I will try my best to answer any questions that you may have.
Mar 28 06:26:42 <mircea_popescu>	BTW, I am not an electrical engineer so give me a break on that. I am CEO."
Mar 28 06:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	scam.
Mar 28 06:27:02 <Chaang-Noi>	toffoo thanks for the e-mail, let me know what he says if he does :/
Mar 28 06:27:09 <Bowjob>	i was disappointed with PrimeASic too
Mar 28 06:27:23 <Bowjob>	if that shit turned out to be real, i'd pay hungary a visit
Mar 28 06:27:43 <Bowjob>	its a scam now obviously
Mar 28 06:27:57 <Chaang-Noi>	mp ithe 200 th should arive in 3 months, will take the same time as the first two orders
Mar 28 06:28:17 <Chaang-Noi>	it is pretty big news cuz it will kill everyone even if bfl is real
Mar 28 06:28:30 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 99.999
Mar 28 06:28:33 <gribble>	There are currently 11188.557 bitcoins offered at or under 99.999 USD, worth 1095083.52263 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
Mar 28 06:28:43 <bgupta>	So would it be fair to say that Ripple is like the US checking system, but instead of banks and the government backing it, it is all WoT based?
Mar 28 06:28:49 <Chaang-Noi>	that is 55% of what it was 2 hours ago
Mar 28 06:30:20 <Bowjob>	bfl_josh has 3 days before he perform a seppuku ritual
Mar 28 06:31:03 <pigeons>	bgupta: i think the innovation is the "rippling" of these ious across trust paths,
Mar 28 06:31:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.37 = 2.96 BTC [+]
Mar 28 06:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158807.msg1691388#msg1691388
Mar 28 06:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	in which usagi shows his mad c++ skills
Mar 28 06:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	apparently some sort of game developer.
Mar 28 06:31:51 <toffoo>	Chaang-Noi read a little further down, he did reply
Mar 28 06:32:01 <pigeons>	wow i have everyone in that thread ignored
Mar 28 06:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Mar 28 06:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	i am sorry pigeons.
Mar 28 06:32:55 <Bowjob>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Wakisashi-sepukku-p1000699.jpg
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Mar 28 06:34:52 <Chaang-Noi>	toffoo then it is what i thought, if ture, they are remodeling the new data center
Mar 28 06:35:11 <Chaang-Noi>	atleast he has pil;es of btc now to get shit done
Mar 28 06:35:40 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone going to celebrate 100? or the fact we went over 1billion market cap?
Mar 28 06:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.49 = 2.45 BTC [-]
Mar 28 06:36:10 <toffoo>	prolly won't have any trouble selling a few for RMB in this market right now either
Mar 28 06:36:18 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 28 06:37:15 <toffoo>	fellow AM shareholders, I have a feeling we'll be reuniting on yachts together some day
Mar 28 06:37:32 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i think so too
Mar 28 06:37:56 <Chaang-Noi>	do you hold a large amount toffoo?
Mar 28 06:38:13 <toffoo>	prolly not as large as i'd like to
Mar 28 06:38:43 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, well me too
Mar 28 06:38:43 <Bowjob>	heck having just 20 BTC can make you a king
Mar 28 06:39:07 <toffoo>	but thru dumb luck or being lucky dumb i wound up having more than i ordinarily would have
Mar 28 06:39:10 <Chaang-Noi>	we cant all be a king
Mar 28 06:39:27 <Chaang-Noi>	how is that toffoo?
Mar 28 06:39:40 <Bowjob>	well how many users have more than 100 BTC
Mar 28 06:39:51 <Bowjob>	in relation to the rest of the world
Mar 28 06:39:57 <Chaang-Noi>	id say 95% of this chan
Mar 28 06:40:20 <Bowjob>	we're pretty much the new banking overlords
Mar 28 06:40:25 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, well 20 btc at $10,000 each is only half a house in the usa...
Mar 28 06:40:44 <Chaang-Noi>	not exactly a king and we are not yet near $10k usd each
Mar 28 06:40:53 <Bowjob>	well..
Mar 28 06:41:00 <Bowjob>	btc can go way more than 10k
Mar 28 06:41:01 <Chaang-Noi>	hell my uncle has a car worth that... he is not a king
Mar 28 06:41:10 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe :)
Mar 28 06:41:32 <Bowjob>	houses in vancouver are around 1m upwards
Mar 28 06:41:43 <Bowjob>	1m gets you a small midsized house
Mar 28 06:42:05 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah.. so at $100k usd a coin you have 2 houses
Mar 28 06:42:14 <Chaang-Noi>	not really a king :/
Mar 28 06:42:33 <Bowjob>	theres taxes too i guess
Mar 28 06:42:48 <toffoo>	not until you sell them right?
Mar 28 06:42:51 <Chaang-Noi>	now at 1,000k a coin okay, he got some walking money
Mar 28 06:43:01 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah toffoo
Mar 28 06:43:05 <Bowjob>	i plan on using btc directly
Mar 28 06:43:23 <Chaang-Noi>	me to, but not in the usa (or canada)
Mar 28 06:43:26 <Bowjob>	if I can, id try to set up a mining ops
Mar 28 06:43:35 <Bowjob>	starting with 1 avalon, then gen 2, ect
Mar 28 06:43:58 <Bowjob>	id get a diminishing return, but if the value of btc goes up, i'll be living comfortably
Mar 28 06:46:02 <toffoo>	if we're fast with this "bitcoin crosses $1bn" headline thru the tech news cycle before the weekend we could blow thru $100 no problemo
Mar 28 06:46:34 <bgupta>	you really need 10000+ btc today to have any say tomorrow, and bear in mind at some point a continuing major rise of the btc value versus fiat (which is not a given) would  have to have an impact of the buying power of the fiat currencies.
Mar 28 06:47:55 <Chaang-Noi>	we will correct sooner or later, we are correcting up now, we were way undervalued for so long, we will shoot too high and go back down, level and shooot up again
Mar 28 06:48:23 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 96
Mar 28 06:48:25 <gribble>	There are currently 3068.6381 bitcoins offered at or under 96.0 USD, worth 293644.877472 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Mar 28 06:48:37 <Bowjob>	we're at 95
Mar 28 06:48:38 <Bowjob>	not bad
Mar 28 06:48:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think we will hit 100 before i have to go out in a few hours
Mar 28 06:48:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 06:50:40 <bgupta>	is gribble a bot?
Mar 28 06:50:55 <bgupta>	who's bot?
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Mar 28 06:51:57 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: any idea who's bot gribble is?
Mar 28 06:52:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.499 BTC [-]
Mar 28 06:52:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.499 BTC [-]
Mar 28 06:52:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.499 BTC [-]
Mar 28 06:52:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 3 @ 2.5 = 7.5 BTC [+]
Mar 28 06:52:53 <pigeons>	bgupta: its nanotube's
Mar 28 06:55:39 <bgupta>	so any quesses when we are gonna switch to talking in mBTC?
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Mar 28 06:56:37 <Chaang-Noi>	never?
Mar 28 06:56:57 <Chaang-Noi>	or maybe after retailers force us?
Mar 28 06:57:29 <bgupta>	WEll, if one can buy a house with 1BTC, I'd imagine it would be an unwieldy unit of transaction.
Mar 28 06:57:54 <bgupta>	Don't think it will ever get there..
Mar 28 06:58:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.135 = 0.405 BTC [-]
Mar 28 06:58:16 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i dont know
Mar 28 06:58:30 <Chaang-Noi>	gold is 1.6k a troy oz
Mar 28 06:58:30 <bgupta>	I'd guess when we break 1000, and an mBTC is worth $1..
Mar 28 06:58:40 <Chaang-Noi>	we could use gram or tonne i guess
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Mar 28 06:59:05 <Bugpowder>	ha!
Mar 28 06:59:09 <bgupta>	Well.. gold isn't used in commerce as payment
Mar 28 06:59:15 <Bugpowder>	I wake up and it is 95
Mar 28 06:59:17 <Bugpowder>	great
Mar 28 06:59:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.011 BTC [-]
Mar 28 06:59:22 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 28 06:59:25 <bgupta>	it's a commodity
Mar 28 06:59:35 <Chaang-Noi>	bgupta in thailand it is
Mar 28 06:59:42 <bgupta>	btc trades like a commodity/currency/equity
Mar 28 06:59:49 <Chaang-Noi>	the unit we use is called a "baht" or "stang"
Mar 28 06:59:54 <Bowjob>	party when it hits triple digits
Mar 28 07:00:02 <bgupta>	how much does it weigh?
Mar 28 07:00:07 <Chaang-Noi>	i gotz champagne on ice
Mar 28 07:00:25 <Chaang-Noi>	one baht is a bit less than 1/2 a troy ounce
Mar 28 07:00:27 <Chaang-Noi>	one stang is 1/4 a baht
Mar 28 07:00:39 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 28 07:00:39 <gribble>	There are currently 34720787 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9480373.83494 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.6506 seconds
Mar 28 07:00:58 <bgupta>	Chaang-Noi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_baht not sure I follow seems it's paper?
Mar 28 07:01:08 <Chaang-Noi>	the currancy you use to buy women here for wives is gold
Mar 28 07:01:15 <tiberiusiv>	chaang: are precious metals popular amongst the gooks?
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Mar 28 07:01:42 <Chaang-Noi>	bgupta google gold baht
Mar 28 07:01:53 <bgupta>	1 Thai Baht equals 0.03 US Dollar. ok will do
Mar 28 07:02:29 <Bowjob>	chang can you actually speak thai
Mar 28 07:02:32 <bgupta>	ah it's like india
Mar 28 07:02:47 <bgupta>	jewelry as currency for things like dowry and what not
Mar 28 07:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta nanotube controls gribble
Mar 28 07:02:49 <Chaang-Noi>	yes i can speak thai and i will find you a link...
Mar 28 07:03:05 <Bowjob>	why is it that white people are so good at asian languages
Mar 28 07:03:09 <Bowjob>	not the other way around lol
Mar 28 07:03:17 <error4733>	;;asks 99.8
Mar 28 07:03:20 <gribble>	There are currently 11965.864 bitcoins offered at or under 99.8 USD, worth 1169623.7288 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Mar 28 07:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.49999 = 2 BTC [+]
Mar 28 07:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	Bowjob european tradition.
Mar 28 07:04:21 <Chaang-Noi>	http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_grams_is_1_thai_baht_gold
Mar 28 07:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	white man speaks languages.
Mar 28 07:04:31 <taub>	keep yo eyes open
Mar 28 07:04:56 <Chaang-Noi>	most people speak english here
Mar 28 07:05:10 <Chaang-Noi>	roadsigns and shit are in english, not thai
Mar 28 07:05:14 <taub>	hey Bugpowder how much did you risk on that option trade?
Mar 28 07:05:27 <Chaang-Noi>	ASEAN is english
Mar 28 07:05:34 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah bugpowder must be floating in cash
Mar 28 07:06:25 <taub>	did you go all in or just risk a % of your acc
Mar 28 07:07:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i dobut he went even close to all in
Mar 28 07:09:06 <taub>	thats good
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Mar 28 07:09:39 <KRS1>	bgupta:  Bots should have a dogtag function..they're so friendly..people always messin with em..they could get lost..
Mar 28 07:09:53 <bgupta>	:)
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Mar 28 07:10:08 <KRS1>	gribble: do you know who your owner is?
Mar 28 07:10:26 <taub>	someone wanna buy capture mtgox data?
Mar 28 07:10:31 <taub>	i guess you guys have it all anyway
Mar 28 07:10:38 <taub>	captured
Mar 28 07:10:45 <KRS1>	bugpowder: didnt you say price was going to peak today or was that someone else
Mar 28 07:10:59 <bgupta>	Maybe Thick?
Mar 28 07:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.49999 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Mar 28 07:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident gribble
Mar 28 07:11:43 <gribble>	Nick 'gribble', with hostmask 'gribble!~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble', is not identified.
Mar 28 07:11:47 <bgupta>	SO interesting observation.. at this point over 13% of the outstanding asicminer shares are being traded through PTs
Mar 28 07:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	he kinda DOES have a dogtag
Mar 28 07:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta there seems to be something magic about 13%
Mar 28 07:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	sdice is 13%, mpoe is 12.whatever
Mar 28 07:12:32 <bgupta>	well it was like 3% a few days ago
Mar 28 07:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess bitbet is maybe around there
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Mar 28 07:12:49 <Bugpowder>	I got 6000 calls
Mar 28 07:12:54 <bgupta>	well more than a few..
Mar 28 07:13:01 <bgupta>	Bugpowder: which ones?
Mar 28 07:13:21 <Bugpowder>	590, 610, 630, 710, 730, 750
Mar 28 07:13:48 <bgupta>	what are they options for?
Mar 28 07:13:58 <Bugpowder>	BTCUSD
Mar 28 07:13:59 <bgupta>	options to buy what I mean
Mar 28 07:14:08 <bgupta>	when do they expire?
Mar 28 07:14:08 <KRS1>	yeah it would be cool if gribble could tell ya
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Mar 28 07:14:13 <Bugpowder>	this is answering taub's quiestion
Mar 28 07:14:19 <Bugpowder>	tomorrow night
Mar 28 07:14:20 <KRS1>	its been almost 10 years since i programmed an eggdrop bot
Mar 28 07:14:35 <Bugpowder>	yah dudes
Mar 28 07:14:39 <Chaang-Noi>	1.5 million usd to clear 100 hmmm    not before bed :/
Mar 28 07:14:41 <Bugpowder>	bitcar is definitely happening
Mar 28 07:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-]
Mar 28 07:15:25 <kakobrekla>	bitcar?
Mar 28 07:15:38 <bgupta>	I'm missing something? You are betting that btc will hit 590, in the next 24 hours? (Don't trade the currency options, so not sure the pricing.)
Mar 28 07:15:46 <kakobrekla>	dont buy a car with btc
Mar 28 07:15:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/28/hundreds-of-armed-vigilantes-seize-mexican-town-arrest-local-police/
Mar 28 07:15:48 <kakobrekla>	i made that mistake
Mar 28 07:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	for the lolz
Mar 28 07:15:51 <kakobrekla>	it doesnt work
Mar 28 07:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta 59
Mar 28 07:16:07 <bgupta>	oh nice
Mar 28 07:16:09 <kakobrekla>	id be rining a helicopter now
Mar 28 07:16:19 <Bugpowder>	working on bithouse
Mar 28 07:16:20 <kakobrekla>	riding
Mar 28 07:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta old scheme needed the decimals because when mpoe was born btc was trading at 5 threatening 2
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Mar 28 07:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	we're gonna move on a new naming convention after tomorrow
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Mar 28 07:23:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.49999 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 07:23:31 <Chaang-Noi>	lol arrest the police
Mar 28 07:23:32 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobrekla why not? i was thinking about it
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Mar 28 07:23:57 <kakobrekla>	dunno
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Mar 28 07:24:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3803 BTC [-]
Mar 28 07:24:06 <kakobrekla>	id be dirving a helicopter now Chaang-Noi
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Mar 28 07:24:18 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Mar 28 07:24:21 <bgupta>	gotcha
Mar 28 07:24:21 <bgupta>	you started right after the '11 crash?
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Mar 28 07:24:45 <Chaang-Noi>	but if i was going to get one anyway:)
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Mar 28 07:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.49999 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 07:25:40 <Bowjob>	man.. this is the second time my ipod touch went tumble drying
Mar 28 07:25:42 <Bowjob>	i feel bad now
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Mar 28 07:25:44 <Bowjob>	:/
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Mar 28 07:26:20 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 28 07:26:26 <kakobrekla>	it wold be like kako dotcom
Mar 28 07:26:28 <kakobrekla>	with the heli
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Mar 28 07:26:34 <bgupta>	You guys hear about this? http://rbth.ru/business/2013/03/25/russia_to_ban_cash_transactions_over_10000_24203.html
Mar 28 07:26:40 <Bugpowder>	yup
Mar 28 07:26:53 <Bugpowder>	its a perfect storm
Mar 28 07:26:57 <Bugpowder>	for bitcoin
Mar 28 07:27:21 <Bugpowder>	KRS1: It could top today or tomorrow, but I think 100 will be a magnet
Mar 28 07:27:35 <Bugpowder>	suck the price upwards to it, as people want to get in before 100
Mar 28 07:27:51 <bgupta>	http://www2.egovlink.com/press-release-bitcoin.cfm
Mar 28 07:28:15 <Bugpowder>	and there is no wall big wall there
Mar 28 07:28:30 <Chaang-Noi>	kako i have a feeling you are still doing well in btc land:)
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Mar 28 07:32:06 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 100
Mar 28 07:32:06 <gribble>	There are currently 15089.844 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1482299.95625 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
Mar 28 07:32:07 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-28/bitcoin-may-be-the-global-economys-last-safe-haven
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Mar 28 07:32:08 <taub>	keelin over
Mar 28 07:32:08 <taub>	;)
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Mar 28 07:32:18 <Chaang-Noi>	toffoo can you ask friedcat an eta for it being done?
Mar 28 07:35:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.07 BTC [-]
Mar 28 07:35:29 -mquin-	[Global Notice] Seems we're having a few network problems, please bear with us while we look into it
Mar 28 07:36:08 <Chaang-Noi>	—something memorable and fun, like 1Ns17iag9jJgTHD1VXjvLCEnZuQ3rJDE9L
Mar 28 07:36:12 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Mar 28 07:37:13 <Chaang-Noi>	"Bitcoin is a hedge against the entire global currency system."  nice line
Mar 28 07:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.481 = 5.291 BTC [-]
Mar 28 07:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.48 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Mar 28 07:39:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4799999 = 4.8 BTC [-]
Mar 28 07:39:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.721 BTC [-]
Mar 28 07:40:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.72 = 1.44 BTC [-]
Mar 28 07:41:22 <Bugpowder>	wow that is a really well written article
Mar 28 07:41:33 <Bugpowder>	fair and entertaining
Mar 28 07:41:38 <Bugpowder>	great for mainstream readers
Mar 28 07:41:43 <Bugpowder>	I'm going to post this one
Mar 28 07:42:06 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah its good
Mar 28 07:42:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i love that line i quoted, its in my sig now
Mar 28 07:43:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1078 BTC [+]
Mar 28 07:43:35 <Chaang-Noi>	well boys, sadly i must go eat steak and drink lots and lots of beer, if we get close to 100 ill be back, if not, good trading:)
Mar 28 07:45:22 <Namworld>	goodbye
Mar 28 07:45:55 <Schadenfreude>	Any idea when the bubble will pop?
Mar 28 07:46:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [-]
Mar 28 07:46:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
Mar 28 07:47:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.104 = 0.312 BTC [+]
Mar 28 07:48:41 <Bugpowder>	nope
Mar 28 07:48:57 <Bugpowder>	just imagine if this becomes a mainstream bubble
Mar 28 07:49:07 <Bugpowder>	instead of a niche bubble
Mar 28 07:49:43 <Bugpowder>	i should probabky stopselling coins
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Mar 28 07:51:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.72 = 4.32 BTC [-]
Mar 28 07:52:30 <fdas>	In my opinion, it's not close to popping. but it's just a probabilistic event
Mar 28 07:52:49 <taub>	idk bro, everybody is shaking as we go up to 100
Mar 28 07:53:03 <taub>	and we haven't had a proper retracement since 60
Mar 28 07:53:26 <fdas>	good news are on mainstream news every day. and we are going up
Mar 28 07:54:05 <fdas>	i want to see retracement and consolidation on good news. when people get used to that btc>80
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Mar 28 07:55:09 <taub>	oh, bitcoin reached 1b market cap today
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Mar 28 07:55:28 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 07:55:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.14508, Best ask: 94.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.35492, Last trade: 94.50000, 24 hour volume: 65617.39331966, 24 hour low: 85.35000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 89.83651
Mar 28 07:55:43 <ColdHardMetal>	;;bc,mktcap
Mar 28 07:55:44 <gribble>	1035722362.5
Mar 28 07:56:57 <bgupta>	so curious question.. how much fiat value in USD do folks think people have taken out of btc and have on hand (largely I'm thinking about early owners, but any one really who's taken some profits would count here)
Mar 28 07:57:23 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 28 07:57:26 <gribble>	There are currently 34625409 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9449688.47191 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0187 seconds
Mar 28 07:58:08 <bgupta>	IE: I'm wondering how much fiat there is on hand for trading from active traders.
Mar 28 07:58:26 <taub>	i'd wonder more about the coins
Mar 28 07:58:39 <taub>	new people bring in fiat
Mar 28 07:58:44 <Bugpowder>	bgupta: look at what i just typed in
Mar 28 07:58:47 <Bugpowder>	at least 10M
Mar 28 07:59:21 <bgupta>	ah.. but it must be more than that
Mar 28 07:59:23 <Bugpowder>	those are funded bids
Mar 28 07:59:25 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 28 07:59:29 <Bugpowder>	but how much more
Mar 28 07:59:32 <Bugpowder>	25% or 200%?
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Mar 28 08:00:10 <taub>	Mid-cap: $2 billion.$10 billion
Mar 28 08:00:11 <taub>	Small-cap: $250 million.$2 billion
Mar 28 08:00:13 <taub>	well, getting there
Mar 28 08:00:14 <bgupta>	no news yet on btc billion milestone
Mar 28 08:00:23 <bgupta>	(no press that is)
Mar 28 08:02:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008551 BTC [-]
Mar 28 08:05:08 <troc>	hmm market cap, I like bids >0 better, perhaps an inter-exchange 'bids 0' USD would be even better.
Mar 28 08:05:12 <Bugpowder>	OH SHIT!  Bitcoins hit the header of http://drudgereport.com
Mar 28 08:07:07 <taub>	MARC FABER: Not Even Gold Will Be Able To Save You From What Is Coming
Mar 28 08:07:07 <taub>	Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/faber-gold-wont-be-a-place-to-hide-2013-3#ixzz2OprdT6ba
Mar 28 08:07:12 <taub>	this dude always gives me the creeps
Mar 28 08:07:22 <taub>	i mean with his predictions, depressing
Mar 28 08:08:41 <tiberiusiv>	hes a drunk
Mar 28 08:08:57 <taub>	93.5 its going to zero
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Mar 28 08:15:34 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder must be rich
Mar 28 08:15:39 <thestringpuller>	your bet is paying off huge
Mar 28 08:15:53 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 08:15:54 <gribble>	89.71
Mar 28 08:15:59 <thestringpuller>	bajeezus
Mar 28 08:16:32 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (89.71 - 75)/75
Mar 28 08:16:32 <gribble>	0.196133333333
Mar 28 08:16:38 <thestringpuller>	holy fucking shit
Mar 28 08:16:55 <thestringpuller>	200%?!?!?!?!
Mar 28 08:17:08 <Bugpowder>	I should have bought more
Mar 28 08:17:10 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 28 08:17:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00060077 / 0.0006081 / 0.00061253 (48495 shares, 29.49 BTC), 7D: 0.00060001 / 0.00067102 / 0.00073756 (1745269 shares, 1,171.12 BTC), 30D: 0.00060001 / 0.00073593 / 0.00078628 (16750478 shares, 12,327.29 BTC)
Mar 28 08:17:17 <thestringpuller>	we all should have
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Mar 28 08:17:30 <thestringpuller>	im fearful of mpoe crashing this month...
Mar 28 08:17:46 <thestringpuller>	if there is no bondholder loss...
Mar 28 08:17:56 <thestringpuller>	then mpoe might shoot back up
Mar 28 08:18:18 <Bugpowder>	i really don't see how bondholders are going to avoid a loss at this point
Mar 28 08:19:10 <thestringpuller>	do you think it could crash like that bet?
Mar 28 08:19:21 <thestringpuller>	that bitbet
Mar 28 08:19:26 <Bugpowder>	nah
Mar 28 08:19:34 <Bugpowder>	bitbet revenue is much much smaller
Mar 28 08:19:47 <Bugpowder>	mpoe has a proven business model that prints bitcoins
Mar 28 08:20:05 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHAHA
Mar 28 08:20:12 <thestringpuller>	omg that has made my morning
Mar 28 08:20:13 <Bugpowder>	they just have had a very bad month due to the directionality of the move
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Mar 28 08:20:21 <thestringpuller>	i <3 Bugpowder
Mar 28 08:20:48 <Bugpowder>	I like S.MPOE for long term
Mar 28 08:20:58 <thestringpuller>	thats why i am holding it
Mar 28 08:21:43 <thestringpuller>	i want to buy more on a decrease, but I dont want to see a month similar to August 2012
Mar 28 08:21:44 <Bugpowder>	BBET might work out long term, but .002 is awfully rich. It assumes very high growth rates sustained over long periods
Mar 28 08:22:13 <Bugpowder>	You won't lose money from a zero dividend
Mar 28 08:22:22 <Bugpowder>	but you might lose capital value
Mar 28 08:22:36 <Bugpowder>	Why not set a cheap bid below the current price
Mar 28 08:22:37 <tiberiusiv>	like all mircea scams
Mar 28 08:22:51 <tiberiusiv>	S.MPOE is overvalued by 100x
Mar 28 08:23:01 <tiberiusiv>	its assuming earnings increase by 500x lol.
Mar 28 08:23:56 <Bugpowder>	When the financials are posted
Mar 28 08:24:03 <Bugpowder>	pay attention and make a quick move
Mar 28 08:25:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01965 BTC [+]
Mar 28 08:25:28 <Namworld>	[08:16] <thestringpuller> ;;calc (89.71 - 75)/75
Mar 28 08:25:31 <Namworld>	for calls?
Mar 28 08:25:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.01966 = 0.0393 BTC [+]
Mar 28 08:25:48 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (89.71 - 75)/89.71
Mar 28 08:25:49 <gribble>	0.163972801248
Mar 28 08:25:52 <thestringpuller>	my bad
Mar 28 08:25:58 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 28 08:26:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.34162, Best ask: 92.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15838, Last trade: 92.30000, 24 hour volume: 66928.10223158, 24 hour low: 85.35000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.01309
Mar 28 08:26:04 <thestringpuller>	thanks for pointing out error
Mar 28 08:26:04 <Namworld>	Slightly worse off... but good nevertheless
Mar 28 08:26:29 <Bugpowder>	vwap is still rising and will for the next few hours at the very least
Mar 28 08:27:15 <Namworld>	yeah
Mar 28 08:31:35 <taub>	is stock trading really worth it?
Mar 28 08:31:50 <taub>	its probably more liquid than i make it out to be
Mar 28 08:32:10 <Bugpowder>	liwuidty comees and goes
Mar 28 08:32:47 <taub>	mh
Mar 28 08:32:50 <Bugpowder>	there were are few trading bots running on S.MPOE for a long time
Mar 28 08:32:56 <taub>	:o
Mar 28 08:32:59 <Bugpowder>	but haven't seen them in the past few weeks
Mar 28 08:33:05 <Bugpowder>	maybe they lost money :-P
Mar 28 08:33:21 <Bugpowder>	one or two moved to s.dice
Mar 28 08:33:25 <taub>	I prefer being able to get in and out without much hassle, even with mtgox lag the risk is fairly limited
Mar 28 08:33:26 <Bugpowder>	but those are off now too
Mar 28 08:33:43 <Bugpowder>	Hmm... little pullback here
Mar 28 08:33:44 <taub>	but with stocks i dunno, is there a good site with historic charts?
Mar 28 08:33:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 51 @ 0.003818 = 0.1947 BTC [-]
Mar 28 08:33:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.003817 = 0.0382 BTC [-]
Mar 28 08:33:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.33308869 = 333.0887 BTC [+]
Mar 28 08:33:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00343 BTC [-]
Mar 28 08:34:01 <Bugpowder>	oh fuck!
Mar 28 08:34:11 <Bugpowder>	ah
Mar 28 08:34:14 <Bugpowder>	selling to the bot
Mar 28 08:34:21 <Bugpowder>	I thought my ask got hit
Mar 28 08:34:38 <Bugpowder>	talk about a premature sale
Mar 28 08:34:57 <mircea_popescu>	<fdas> i want to see retracement and consolidation on good news. <<< this.
Mar 28 08:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	who's fdas ?
Mar 28 08:35:01 <Bugpowder>	what is someone so clueless doing with 1000 C610Ts
Mar 28 08:35:16 <fdas>	tiberiusiv: why do you think Faber is a drunk?
Mar 28 08:35:42 <tiberiusiv>	um he because he said so?
Mar 28 08:35:48 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder seeling them it seems
Mar 28 08:36:02 <tiberiusiv>	hes a hard drinker by admission read his newsletters
Mar 28 08:36:31 <Bugpowder>	yah  I guess if you have 5000 C610Ts you might want to get ahead of the curve on the sale
Mar 28 08:36:32 <tiberiusiv>	hes a drunk and a pervert like mircea_popescu
Mar 28 08:36:48 <tiberiusiv>	lol those options are only moving when mp is in the channel
Mar 28 08:36:51 <tiberiusiv>	coincidence i think not
Mar 28 08:37:03 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin made front page of drudge report.
Mar 28 08:37:42 <Bugpowder>	yah i saw that
Mar 28 08:38:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.31112439 = 311.1244 BTC [+]
Mar 28 08:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 28 08:39:07 <mircea_popescu>	maybe we get that correction after all.
Mar 28 08:39:21 <Bugpowder>	Yah I thought it might come a day early
Mar 28 08:39:34 <Bugpowder>	people wanting to jump the gun on weekend weekness
Mar 28 08:39:46 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 28 08:39:49 <gribble>	There are currently 34623114 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9311886.37161 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0202 seconds
Mar 28 08:39:55 <Bugpowder>	a little softness
Mar 28 08:40:05 <Bugpowder>	not terrible though
Mar 28 08:40:54 <taub>	this move means nothing yet
Mar 28 08:40:57 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Mar 28 08:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine most outstanding option interest will close today actually
Mar 28 08:41:08 <Bugpowder>	yah
Mar 28 08:41:10 <Bugpowder>	risk off
Mar 28 08:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	prolly people too edgy to hunker down for friday lockdown
Mar 28 08:41:24 <Bugpowder>	they could just exercise though
Mar 28 08:41:31 <Bugpowder>	on friday
Mar 28 08:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	true
Mar 28 08:42:04 <ThickAsThieves>	if prie stays above 90, probly worth holding til then
Mar 28 08:42:07 <ThickAsThieves>	price
Mar 28 08:42:24 <ThickAsThieves>	above 90 today*
Mar 28 08:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
Mar 28 08:45:36 <ThickAsThieves>	The big gains in price seem to be happening at morning it Romania, is it you mp?  ;)
Mar 28 08:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 28 08:47:40 <mircea_popescu>	ya, my slavegirls for bitcoin auctions are at noon so all the rich emirs are buying their bitcoin early.
Mar 28 08:48:04 <ThickAsThieves>	thats a lotta girls
Mar 28 08:48:09 <ThickAsThieves>	or some very fine ones at least
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Mar 28 08:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	only the best this side of the river nile.
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Mar 28 09:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.46 = 1.38 BTC [-]
Mar 28 09:01:27 <deadweasel>	where is the bitcointalk thread about btcquick?
Mar 28 09:02:36 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159716.msg1688643#msg1688643
Mar 28 09:02:54 <deadweasel>	weird, search must be jibberred up
Mar 28 09:02:57 <deadweasel>	thx
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Mar 28 09:07:06 <MJR_>	1 billion, yay
Mar 28 09:10:08 <ThickAsThieves>	got my first friend calling me asking about buying ONE bitcoin
Mar 28 09:10:20 <ThickAsThieves>	"I just wanna buy one to save it"
Mar 28 09:11:13 <ThickAsThieves>	been posting about btc on my facebook feed since $20, people wait til $93 to ask
Mar 28 09:11:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19996 BTC [+]
Mar 28 09:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	save it from the evil noms of people ?
Mar 28 09:12:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.19997 = 0.3999 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 09:13:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00589 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 09:15:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0059 BTC [+]
Mar 28 09:16:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 98 @ 0.006 = 0.588 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 09:17:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00599 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 09:17:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 99 @ 0.006 = 0.594 BTC [+]
Mar 28 09:17:35 <Bugpowder>	s.dice volume rocketed up
Mar 28 09:17:43 <Bugpowder>	the big winner from yesterday lost it all
Mar 28 09:17:43 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1EvdzQZtdSDtcTBvcNy6qcsRQyhrKtEf91
Mar 28 09:18:01 <ThickAsThieves>	whodat?
Mar 28 09:18:29 <ThickAsThieves>	oh
Mar 28 09:18:39 <ThickAsThieves>	nvm
Mar 28 09:18:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 200 @ 0.006 = 1.2 BTC [+]
Mar 28 09:19:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.006 = 0.018 BTC [+]
Mar 28 09:20:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 75 @ 0.006 = 0.45 BTC [+]
Mar 28 09:20:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 22 @ 0.00601 = 0.1322 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 09:22:29 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 28 09:22:30 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00310001 / 0.00375185 / 0.00448 (74503 shares, 279.52 BTC), 7D: 0.00310001 / 0.00410842 / 0.00499997 (208663 shares, 857.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00514212 / 0.0063799 (1225687 shares, 6,302.63 BTC)
Mar 28 09:22:34 <thestringpuller>	HMM
Mar 28 09:23:14 <kakobrekla>	today is the day of leveraged platforms
Mar 28 09:23:17 <kakobrekla>	along with kraken https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156298.0
Mar 28 09:23:21 <kakobrekla>	now this.
Mar 28 09:23:27 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
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Mar 28 09:23:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.80000000 / 1.82978723 / 1.85000000 (47 shares, 86.00000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.73766344 / 2.00000000 (186 shares, 323.20540034 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.93289075 / 18.00000000 (697 shares, 1347.22485269 BTC)
Mar 28 09:24:38 <deadweasel>	lol, coinbase is out of BTC again.  :D
Mar 28 09:25:05 <kakobrekla>	did they ever have them?
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Mar 28 09:35:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 09:38:54 <pgp>	my gut tells me that's there's an "undisclosed problem" over at coinbase...
Mar 28 09:39:03 <kakobrekla>	bitcoinstore went from like 20% to 50% in a day or two?
Mar 28 09:39:15 <kakobrekla>	pgp its multiple of them
Mar 28 09:39:16 <pgp>	no real fact to back that up - just a feeling...
Mar 28 09:39:58 <pgp>	agreed...  something shady going on there...
Mar 28 09:40:53 <kakobrekla>	i heard so much shit/bugs/lol regarding them its not even funny
Mar 28 09:43:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 28 09:43:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.75570, Best ask: 93.96999, Bid-ask spread: 0.21429, Last trade: 93.96999, 24 hour volume: 68563.92218634, 24 hour low: 86.13000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.32462
Mar 28 09:43:36 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 09:43:37 <gribble>	90.08
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Mar 28 09:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00060983 = 2.0429 BTC [-]
Mar 28 09:43:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9461 @ 0.00061111 = 5.7817 BTC [+]
Mar 28 09:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.49999 = 11.4998 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 09:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.9951 BTC [+]
Mar 28 09:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.381 = 0.762 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 09:53:12 <pgp>	btw - the "grownups" over at tradehill have yet to offer anything more than their shockingly underwhelming alpha product...
Mar 28 09:53:45 <kakobrekla>	so there is a product?
Mar 28 09:53:53 <kakobrekla>	last time i checked it was nada
Mar 28 09:54:32 <pgp>	a "test" platform
Mar 28 09:55:43 <pgp>	which is soooo bare bones that it makes a concentration camp look like a country club...
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Mar 28 09:58:54 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 28 09:59:14 <kakobrekla>	country club can be quite hard core
Mar 28 09:59:27 <pgp>	it's laughable...
Mar 28 09:59:47 <pgp>	and, frankly, embarassing...
Mar 28 09:59:47 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Mar 28 09:59:47 <kakobrekla>	bbl
Mar 28 09:59:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5000 @ 0.00066 = 3.3 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:02:01 <deadweasel>	my concern with coinbase is that they clearly don't keep your btc in a 'wallet' of your own.
Mar 28 10:02:02 <pgp>	my guess is that they had some sort of immutable deadline to hit with investors...
Mar 28 10:02:58 <pgp>	deadweasal: i've heard that they've cancelled transactions a week after the fact...
Mar 28 10:06:35 <deadweasel>	pgp, they have.  A LOT.
Mar 28 10:08:36 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1692732#msg1692732
Mar 28 10:08:40 <ThickAsThieves>	AM update
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Mar 28 10:12:36 <damientrog>	where is asicminer located?
Mar 28 10:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00350012 = 6.3002 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:12:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00350011 = 17.5006 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:12:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0033 = 6.6 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1025 @ 0.00310001 = 3.1775 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 325 @ 0.00310001 = 1.0075 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:12:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 467937 @ 0.0031 = 1450.6047 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:13:36 <Bugpowdeer>	oh my
Mar 28 10:13:47 <Bugpowdeer>	damientrog: china
Mar 28 10:13:49 <pgp>	time to sell asicminer...  while you can...
Mar 28 10:14:06 <damientrog>	ah thanks
Mar 28 10:14:17 <leotreasure>	what do you mean pgp?
Mar 28 10:14:36 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 28 10:14:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.87501, Best ask: 93.96999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09498, Last trade: 93.96999, 24 hour volume: 68633.28583622, 24 hour low: 86.29010, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.39382
Mar 28 10:14:57 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 28 10:14:57 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 52 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <smickles> "Seeing your picture my grandchild starts crying."
Mar 28 10:14:59 <ThickAsThieves>	wow thats a lot of sdice
Mar 28 10:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.381 = 1.905 BTC [+]
Mar 28 10:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.3804 = 2.6628 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:15:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3803 = 1.1409 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:15:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.3802 = 1.901 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:15:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.38000001 = 3.8 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:15:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.38 = 1.9 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:15:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.37031001 = 2.5922 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:15:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.3703 = 2.2218 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:15:19 <Bugpowdeer>	yah dude
Mar 28 10:15:29 <Bugpowdeer>	I guess they haven't seen the latest numbers
Mar 28 10:15:32 <pgp>	yikes
Mar 28 10:15:56 <ThickAsThieves>	whats the latest numbers?
Mar 28 10:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	<pgp> my gut tells me that's there's an "undisclosed problem" over at coinbase... << i read someone saying something similar iirc
Mar 28 10:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	what exatly ?
Mar 28 10:17:54 <Bugpowdeer>	+700 BTC!
Mar 28 10:18:06 <Bugpowdeer>	ok not that awesome
Mar 28 10:18:15 <Bugpowdeer>	but positive :)
Mar 28 10:18:27 <damientrog>	do you this month's profit for SDice?
Mar 28 10:18:35 <damientrog>	do you mean
Mar 28 10:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:19:16 <pgp>	If I had to guess, I'd say that coinbase is doing the same thing that lots of struggling companies do - "vendor financing"
Mar 28 10:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	o boy.
Mar 28 10:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	so incidentally, cavirtex raised 5k btc on theory they will get regulated
Mar 28 10:19:45 <pgp>	extending their payables and using the float to stay alive...
Mar 28 10:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	instead using that as a nest egg to compete in the bitfinex/icbit scamspace ?
Mar 28 10:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck is wrong with people!
Mar 28 10:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:20:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	no wonder it got slaughtered ;/
Mar 28 10:20:23 <jborkl>	mp, can i get a deposit cleared
Mar 28 10:20:23 <pgp>	lol
Mar 28 10:20:44 <leotreasure>	me too please mircea
Mar 28 10:21:04 <pgp>	haven't you heard? there are no "grownups" over there...
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Mar 28 10:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed.
Mar 28 10:21:23 <jborkl>	Thank you
Mar 28 10:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	pgp it's sad tho
Mar 28 10:21:54 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... there's a bridge and a hole and a line of people
Mar 28 10:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	everyone steps in the hole, falls to their death
Mar 28 10:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	it's getting weary to look at.
Mar 28 10:22:36 <pgp>	you can lead a horse to water...
Mar 28 10:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	"unskilled and unaware. how lacking metacognitive skills prevent internet tards from realising just how stupid they really are"
Mar 28 10:24:04 <pgp>	Socrates would approve of that statement - for sure...
Mar 28 10:24:35 <mircea_popescu>	pgp socrate would only approve of it if it were rephrased as aquestion.
Mar 28 10:25:45 <pgp>	lol
Mar 28 10:26:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
Mar 28 10:27:43 <pgp>	in any case, i think that all of the young, budding, bitcoin entrepreneurs out there should not the following: if it's worth doing then it's probably worth doing it well
Mar 28 10:28:04 <pgp>	"note" the following...
Mar 28 10:28:24 <Bugpowdeer>	yah
Mar 28 10:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 28 10:28:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0031 / 0.00319353 / 0.00448 (552590 shares, 1,764.71 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00341094 / 0.00499997 (686750 shares, 2,342.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00457092 / 0.0063799 (1703774 shares, 7,787.83 BTC)
Mar 28 10:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	pgp the budding bitcoin entreprewhatevers still have much more basic issues, such as for instance dealing with their daddy complexes
Mar 28 10:29:48 <Bugpowdeer>	coming up on 15:00... excited for some more volume!
Mar 28 10:30:02 <Bugpowdeer>	wake up san francisco, $100 is calling!
Mar 28 10:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	so basically s.dice has fallen, from 0.0032 per share when btc was 9 usd
Mar 28 10:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	to 0.0031 per share when btc is 90
Mar 28 10:30:38 <Bugpowdeer>	yup
Mar 28 10:30:46 <mircea_popescu>	;;tickeer
Mar 28 10:30:47 <gribble>	Error: "tickeer" is not a valid command.
Mar 28 10:30:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 28 10:30:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.03900, Best ask: 94.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16100, Last trade: 94.20000, 24 hour volume: 69119.18421854, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.46821
Mar 28 10:30:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 90.46821 * 319353
Mar 28 10:30:58 <gribble>	28891294.2681
Mar 28 10:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	awful.
Mar 28 10:31:17 <pgp>	it's all about your base currency frame of reference...
Mar 28 10:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	prolly should add the dividends in that calculation but im lazy
Mar 28 10:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	$depth s.dice
Mar 28 10:31:42 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: S.DICE Bids: ['5600 @ 0.0032', '3000 @ 0.00310001', '337063 @ 0.0031', '100 @ 0.00100121', '3000 @ 0.00100002']
Mar 28 10:31:43 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['3000 @ 0.00398999', '12548 @ 0.00399997', '53154 @ 0.00399999', '3815 @ 0.00448', '9896 @ 0.00475']
Mar 28 10:31:45 <Bugpowdeer>	and betting volume has fallen from ~200,000BTC / mo to ~200,000 BTC /mo
Mar 28 10:31:53 <pgp>	gross it by 50% or so then
Mar 28 10:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdeer ya but conversely, it failed to grow from 200k to 200k.
Mar 28 10:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:32:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:32:24 <pgp>	lol
Mar 28 10:32:25 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, there's like 1-2k more at 31, after which 0.001 ? 0.0008 ?
Mar 28 10:32:46 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 28 10:32:47 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00060077 / 0.00060853 / 0.00061253 (59306 shares, 36.09 BTC), 7D: 0.00060001 / 0.00066987 / 0.00073756 (1728845 shares, 1,158.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00060001 / 0.00073582 / 0.00078628 (16755389 shares, 12,329.08 BTC)
Mar 28 10:32:50 <Bugpowdeer>	I doubt it trades for long under .003
Mar 28 10:33:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.446 = 6.244 BTC [-]
Mar 28 10:33:09 <Bugpowdeer>	expected dividends will be 1.33% /mo at .003
Mar 28 10:33:13 <thestringpuller>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 28 10:33:14 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['14053 @ 0.00060778', '6420 @ 0.00060001', '100000 @ 0.0006', '20200 @ 0.00059977', '8272 @ 0.00058185']
Mar 28 10:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdeer well here's the thing : if old blood sells s.dice to get btc to sell for usd to get a new car/house/gf
Mar 28 10:33:15 <Bugpowdeer>	assuming growth never returns
Mar 28 10:33:15 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: Asks: ['2003 @ 0.00061111', '15900 @ 0.00061412', '11865 @ 0.00062464', '14100 @ 0.00062766', '1300 @ 0.00068293']
Mar 28 10:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	and new blood buys btc and then goes and invests it in bitbillions and equivalents
Mar 28 10:33:38 <thestringpuller>	lol
Mar 28 10:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like fucking sysyphus over here, gotta start over educating the crowd
Mar 28 10:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	at the glbse moment.
Mar 28 10:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	sucks.
Mar 28 10:33:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 28 10:33:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.49990, Best ask: 94.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00010, Last trade: 94.50000, 24 hour volume: 69356.59162769, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.48276
Mar 28 10:34:08 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 10:34:09 <gribble>	90.33
Mar 28 10:34:21 <splnkr_>	is anyone here NOT expecting a massive selloff at $100?
Mar 28 10:34:33 <jborkl>	.Satoshi Dice is all good- people need to remember there have been many distractions this month
Mar 28 10:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	splnkr_ i dunno. maybe.
Mar 28 10:34:40 <jborkl>	Avalon
Mar 28 10:34:46 <jborkl>	High BTC price
Mar 28 10:34:49 <Bugpowdeer>	I'm expecting one at $103
Mar 28 10:34:54 <splnkr_>	or is there enough trading in other currencies that the USD psychological sell ceiling won't have that much of an impact?
Mar 28 10:34:59 <jborkl>	House break even so far
Mar 28 10:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl the main concern really is that with the inflow of new people drawn in by all the media exposure
Mar 28 10:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	there's a huge influx of scammers looking to fleece them
Mar 28 10:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	with a little bit of bad luck we might end up drowned to the point where scammer discourse becomes the central discourse of btc
Mar 28 10:35:29 <pgp>	this move up have been really stong, but the ride WILL get bumpy
Mar 28 10:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	that is a lot more concerning than any sort of crash
Mar 28 10:35:32 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think selloff will be huge at $100
Mar 28 10:35:39 <jborkl>	Well, that is true - it almost happened before
Mar 28 10:36:13 <ThickAsThieves>	we thought selloff at 30 and 50 too
Mar 28 10:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	so yeah... i want to ask everyone to be as vocal as time permits about what's what.
Mar 28 10:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	if scammers take over btc... there's no sort of future.
Mar 28 10:36:30 <pgp>	i agree, public perception matters more than anything else
Mar 28 10:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	pgp esp in the next 3-6 months.
Mar 28 10:36:43 <jborkl>	Ok, I like pointing out scammers- they are easy to find
Mar 28 10:36:49 <jborkl>	let me go to otc for a minute
Mar 28 10:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	and it doesn't take much to puncture scammer "consensus".
Mar 28 10:36:52 <jborkl>	lol
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Mar 28 10:37:14 <jborkl>	in all seriousness , mp is correct
Mar 28 10:37:27 <pgp>	I've got some tullip bulbs for sale...
Mar 28 10:37:44 <jborkl>	I have to applaud mp for not being GLBSE and listing shitty products
Mar 28 10:37:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.19997 = 0.9999 BTC [+]
Mar 28 10:38:03 <pgp>	agreed
Mar 28 10:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	applaud me when i'm dead.
Mar 28 10:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile, there's stuff to do.
Mar 28 10:38:53 <jborkl>	ok, , I will go to the forum- shudders in disdain
Mar 28 10:39:00 <pgp>	yeah, like working on a snazzy new HTML5 GUI for mpex?
Mar 28 10:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	pgp you mean smickles' thing ?
Mar 28 10:40:01 <splnkr_>	it seems tough to analyze the amount of "black hat" types here...
Mar 28 10:40:09 <pgp>	just kidding
Mar 28 10:40:23 <taub>	 mircea_popescu> that is a lot more concerning than any sort of crash
Mar 28 10:40:28 <taub>	what not kills you makes you stronger
Mar 28 10:40:33 <splnkr_>	my feeling is a large number of "unknown" miners are actually "white hats" that just want their BTC to be 100% private so they can use it without the oversight of prying eyes
Mar 28 10:40:41 <taub>	so community will have to learn to be vigilant
Mar 28 10:40:51 <taub>	if there is too much scamming going on
Mar 28 10:40:53 <splnkr_>	but of course some of them would love to run a 51% attack
Mar 28 10:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	taub myeah.
Mar 28 10:41:19 <taub>	dont think it will hurt in the long run
Mar 28 10:42:18 <taub>	oh, the 51% attack mh, that's kinda iffy
Mar 28 10:42:37 <pgp>	I agree that an emerging mining "oligarchy" could be cause for concern
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Mar 28 10:43:23 <splnkr_>	i know i'm new here but i really want to be part of this discussion
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Mar 28 10:43:46 <splnkr_>	i've been a miner/trader for only about 30 days, but what a wild ride
Mar 28 10:43:56 <pgp>	then by all means, discuss!
Mar 28 10:44:00 <splnkr_>	and can't lie that i'm more interested now that ever...
Mar 28 10:44:13 <splnkr_>	but as a miner, i feel like i have no incentive to collude with other miners
Mar 28 10:44:33 <taub>	its pretty hard to get blocks on your own isnt it
Mar 28 10:44:35 <taub>	?
Mar 28 10:44:45 <splnkr_>	oh sure taub, i'm in a mining pool
Mar 28 10:44:50 <splnkr_>	i don't mean that
Mar 28 10:44:55 <pgp>	yeah...
Mar 28 10:45:05 <splnkr_>	i mean actually knowing and coordinating with people beyond a simple mining pool
Mar 28 10:45:14 <splnkr_>	when i say collude
Mar 28 10:46:19 <pgp>	thin line between "coordinated mining collective" and collussion...  semantics, really...
Mar 28 10:46:28 <splnkr_>	so as the network hashrate grows like crazy, it will then become prohibitively costly for a malicious party to purchase enough hardware to fork the chain, will it not?
Mar 28 10:46:47 <splnkr_>	assuming ASICS proliferate in the wild
Mar 28 10:47:04 <taub>	I keep hearing that word, its just a scam isn't it?
Mar 28 10:47:15 <splnkr_>	asic? the jury's out
Mar 28 10:47:47 <ThickAsThieves>	if a large entity decided to do a 51% attack, they'd just keep quiet til ready and do it
Mar 28 10:48:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think it will come from pool collusion
Mar 28 10:48:43 <ThickAsThieves>	or anything like that
Mar 28 10:49:04 <ThickAsThieves>	altough the most recent fork incident...
Mar 28 10:52:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 100
Mar 28 10:52:08 <gribble>	There are currently 16043.318 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1572513.39873 USD in total. | Data vintage: 66.4927 seconds
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Mar 28 10:52:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 90
Mar 28 10:52:14 <gribble>	There are currently 5158.7942 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 472230.45431 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.6336 seconds
Mar 28 10:52:41 <jborkl>	The fork was caused by a error, Slush did it (an accident)
Mar 28 10:52:50 <ThickAsThieves>	i'
Mar 28 10:53:02 <ThickAsThieves>	m just noting that the pools did collude to fix it
Mar 28 10:53:09 <ThickAsThieves>	they pulled an attacj
Mar 28 10:53:14 <ThickAsThieves>	"attack"
Mar 28 10:53:15 <jborkl>	We were all sent notification through bitcoind
Mar 28 10:53:28 <ThickAsThieves>	all?
Mar 28 10:53:35 <jborkl>	not just pools, anyone the mines and paid attention
Mar 28 10:53:52 <ThickAsThieves>	what if a false alarm were made?
Mar 28 10:54:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm just playing along here
Mar 28 10:54:14 <jborkl>	and what would it say?
Mar 28 10:54:30 <jborkl>	that would not make sense
Mar 28 10:55:27 <ThickAsThieves>	or how about
Mar 28 10:55:41 <ThickAsThieves>	whomever is making AMs chips
Mar 28 10:55:51 <ThickAsThieves>	leaks their next gen setup
Mar 28 10:55:53 <MJR_>	;;bc, prc
Mar 28 10:55:53 <gribble>	Error: "bc," is not a valid command.
Mar 28 10:56:21 <ThickAsThieves>	and someone makes a bunch before anyone else
Mar 28 10:56:24 <ThickAsThieves>	and takes over
Mar 28 10:56:25 <jborkl>	That needs to be fixed, too much is one group- BFL shipping will rebalance
Mar 28 10:56:41 <ThickAsThieves>	one protection
Mar 28 10:56:51 <ThickAsThieves>	is the cost is higher than the incentive
Mar 28 10:57:04 <ThickAsThieves>	unless your goal is simply to keill bitcoin in its current form
Mar 28 10:57:05 <MJR_>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 10:57:06 <gribble>	90.39
Mar 28 10:57:15 <jborkl>	10 million a month is mining revenue currently is passed around
Mar 28 10:57:24 <MJR_>	;;calc (90.39-41)/90.39
Mar 28 10:57:24 <gribble>	0.546410001106
Mar 28 10:57:28 <jborkl>	so, people protect that
Mar 28 10:57:34 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Mar 28 10:57:55 <jborkl>	A misbehaving node can be controlled
Mar 28 10:58:46 <Chaang-Noi>	what is this? not even a new ath while im gone :)
Mar 28 10:59:54 <ThickAsThieves>	we've been working so hard to get to 95 for you and now you complain!
Mar 28 11:00:18 <Chaang-Noi>	until we get to $10,000 i wont quit bitching!
Mar 28 11:00:20 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 28 11:00:52 <Bugpowdeer>	you will be bitching then "I shouldn't have sold everything at $150!"
Mar 28 11:01:00 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
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Mar 28 11:01:20 <Chaang-Noi>	im an old perma bull
Mar 28 11:01:38 <Chaang-Noi>	when btcv was 3$ i was telling evey i knew to go all in
Mar 28 11:01:48 <Chaang-Noi>	and not sell til 1k
Mar 28 11:01:55 <Chaang-Noi>	not a joke
Mar 28 11:02:01 <Chaang-Noi>	they used to think i was crazy
Mar 28 11:04:24 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21964881
Mar 28 11:04:37 <Chaang-Noi>	But bitcoin miners say thieves will struggle to keep up, as coin-generating technology becomes more sophisticated.
Mar 28 11:04:54 <smickles>	huh?
Mar 28 11:05:09 <Chaang-Noi>	its a quote found in the link
Mar 28 11:05:13 <Chaang-Noi>	click for context
Mar 28 11:05:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14053 @ 0.00060778 = 8.5411 BTC [-]
Mar 28 11:05:17 <Bugpowdeer>	asic vs botnet
Mar 28 11:05:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2136 @ 0.00060001 = 1.2816 BTC [-]
Mar 28 11:05:23 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 28 11:05:34 <smickles>	wow, isn't that an odd way of putting it
Mar 28 11:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.446 = 4.46 BTC [-]
Mar 28 11:06:34 <Chaang-Noi>	its the bbc
Mar 28 11:06:50 <Chaang-Noi>	they are talking to people like my mom
Mar 28 11:07:17 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-28/bitcoin-may-be-the-global-economys-last-safe-haven#p2
Mar 28 11:07:19 <smickles>	In other news, my daughter is pissed at this plastic chain. she put it together, but can't yet figure how to take it apart
Mar 28 11:07:24 <Chaang-Noi>	if you missed it, best one in a liong fucknig time
Mar 28 11:07:58 <Chaang-Noi>	swmickles everyone in the world being told about bitcoin is a good thing :/
Mar 28 11:08:07 <smickles>	lol, what's with that pic ath the beginning?
Mar 28 11:08:11 <Chaang-Noi>	even if its dumped down to retard level
Mar 28 11:08:32 <Chaang-Noi>	they all think btc is up cuz cypruz
Mar 28 11:08:47 <ThickAsThieves>	btc is up because btc is up
Mar 28 11:08:53 <jcpham>	what's new
Mar 28 11:09:02 <jcpham>	no way i'm paying $100 for bitcoins
Mar 28 11:09:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 28 11:09:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.68001, Best ask: 94.94999, Bid-ask spread: 0.26998, Last trade: 94.68001, 24 hour volume: 67839.20759077, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.71155
Mar 28 11:09:06 <jcpham>	that's crazy talk
Mar 28 11:09:34 <Chaang-Noi>	you will pay all you have in fiat for $100 btc when market price is north of $1000
Mar 28 11:09:52 <Chaang-Noi>	google stock is $800 and they have billions of them
Mar 28 11:10:54 <Bugpowdeer>	I wish I had linked the first page of that article instead of the second.  D'Oh!
Mar 28 11:11:16 <Chaang-Noi>	thatartical is the first i evar hear d of asics
Mar 28 11:11:28 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-28/bitcoin-may-be-the-global-economys-last-safe-haven
Mar 28 11:11:31 <Chaang-Noi>	sorry
Mar 28 11:11:55 <Bugpowdeer>	nothing worse than fucking up a link you tweet out
Mar 28 11:11:58 <Bugpowdeer>	NOTHING
Mar 28 11:12:13 <Chaang-Noi>	i assumed you would have read the link before tweeting it out
Mar 28 11:12:25 <MJR_>	ethnic cleansing may be worse...MAY
Mar 28 11:12:26 <Chaang-Noi>	the #p2 at the end gave it away
Mar 28 11:12:35 <MJR_>	jk
Mar 28 11:12:41 <Chaang-Noi>	MJR_ you must be new here
Mar 28 11:12:46 <Chaang-Noi>	ok jk, okay then :)
Mar 28 11:13:21 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: well, the whole world being told about bitcoin being 'hilarious' isn't so nifty
Mar 28 11:14:45 <Chaang-Noi>	before it was btc a scam
Mar 28 11:14:51 <Chaang-Noi>	or ponzi for drugs and cp
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Mar 28 11:15:02 <Chaang-Noi>	world news is slowly warming
Mar 28 11:15:04 <Bugpowdeer>	now its a joke on the global financial system
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Mar 28 11:15:20 <Chaang-Noi>	now its,. hahaha world banks suck... bitcoin???
Mar 28 11:15:31 <taub>	doesnt matter
Mar 28 11:15:37 <Chaang-Noi>	wait for holy fuckig shit buy BTC nowwwwS!@!!!!
Mar 28 11:15:38 <taub>	any exposure helps
Mar 28 11:15:45 <Chaang-Noi>	yes
Mar 28 11:15:54 <Chaang-Noi>	no fucking doubt
Mar 28 11:16:11 <Chaang-Noi>	there is always a percent of the population that will do what they are told not to do
Mar 28 11:16:34 <Chaang-Noi>	once btc is THE system we can worry about what they print not if they print
Mar 28 11:16:53 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, btw im a perma bull
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Mar 28 11:20:54 <Chaang-Noi>	you gona get gored:)
Mar 28 11:21:23 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 100
Mar 28 11:21:24 <gribble>	There are currently 14210.284 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1394105.41065 USD in total. | Data vintage: 31.3003 seconds
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Mar 28 11:21:44 <Chaang-Noi>	even if we correct im a long term btc bull, i aint selling
Mar 28 11:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.33904992 = 339.0499 BTC [+]
Mar 28 11:22:54 <smickles>	;;calc 61/(1-.339)
Mar 28 11:22:54 <gribble>	92.2844175492
Mar 28 11:23:03 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 28 11:23:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.45001, Best ask: 94.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.44999, Last trade: 94.90000, 24 hour volume: 66648.47894810, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.82810
Mar 28 11:23:18 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 11:23:20 <gribble>	90.65
Mar 28 11:23:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i have champagne on ice, hope i can have it for brekfast :)
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Mar 28 11:28:06 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: if you had to guess, today, tomorrow, or neither?
Mar 28 11:29:07 <ThickAsThieves>	you mean hitting 100?
Mar 28 11:29:45 <smickles>	yeah
Mar 28 11:29:56 <smickles>	and did apple ban bitcoin?
Mar 28 11:31:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont see any reason why the next 24 hours wont be just like the last, we'll hover somewhere under 100 til about 6:30UTC, and then break 100
Mar 28 11:32:37 <Chaang-Noi>	smickles i dont know cuz the massive weekend for the zobarz
Mar 28 11:32:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1078 = 0.4312 BTC [+]
Mar 28 11:32:58 <Chaang-Noi>	smickes apple did! but then now its back
Mar 28 11:33:08 <Chaang-Noi>	so i bought an apple computer
Mar 28 11:33:34 <Chaang-Noi>	some people fear 100 and then correction so sell before 100
Mar 28 11:33:44 <Chaang-Noi>	and thus with the long weekend a hard fight (maybe)
Mar 28 11:33:54 <Chaang-Noi>	then again, its only 1 fucking million fiat
Mar 28 11:34:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 98.99
Mar 28 11:34:27 <gribble>	There are currently 8654.7753 bitcoins offered at or under 98.99 USD, worth 836893.149398 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.7241 seconds
Mar 28 11:34:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean smickles
Mar 28 11:34:36 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been drinki9ng
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Mar 28 11:42:16 <Chaang-Noi>	will gox be open friday?
Mar 28 11:42:20 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean the staff?
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Mar 28 11:42:33 <Chaang-Noi>	cuz all the perv at home doing nothing then getting fiat in accounts might buy it up
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Mar 28 11:44:46 <jurov>	mtgox doesn't accept anime? or at least hentai?
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Mar 28 11:45:35 <ThickAsThieves>	http://google-opensource.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/taking-stand-on-open-source-and-patents.html
Mar 28 11:49:57 <jurov>	fudr.us down D-': now how we'll live without it?
Mar 28 11:51:50 <kakobrekla>	hi
Mar 28 11:51:53 <kakobrekla>	what did i miss
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Mar 28 11:54:49 <Diablo-D3>	http://codinginmysleep.com/one-billion-dollars/
Mar 28 11:55:14 <Chaang-Noi>	jurov what?
Mar 28 11:55:26 <Chaang-Noi>	hentai? wtf
Mar 28 11:55:51 <Chaang-Noi>	yes d3 already drunk cuz
Mar 28 11:55:53 <jurov>	they can accept it to be independent from banks
Mar 28 11:56:07 <Chaang-Noi>	context?
Mar 28 11:56:07 <jurov>	as a funding/withdrawal method
Mar 28 11:56:36 <jurov>	available always, including weekends and free days
Mar 28 11:56:47 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Mar 28 11:58:09 <Chaang-Noi>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan
Mar 28 12:00:41 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www2.egovlink.com/press-release-bitcoin.cfm
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Mar 28 12:04:15 <Chaang-Noi>	this chan is dead?
Mar 28 12:04:22 <kakobrekla>	wut
Mar 28 12:04:52 <Chaang-Noi>	guess not:)
Mar 28 12:05:05 <ThickAsThieves>	trying to actually get some non-bitcoin work done
Mar 28 12:05:19 <Chaang-Noi>	there is such a thing anymore? :)
Mar 28 12:05:20 <jurov>	well i just tried to provide some entertainment
Mar 28 12:05:56 <leotreasure>	blockchain down?
Mar 28 12:06:22 <jurov>	no works from here
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Mar 28 12:06:35 <Chaang-Noi>	http://blockchain.info/ works here
Mar 28 12:06:44 <leotreasure>	wallet page down?
Mar 28 12:06:51 <Chaang-Noi>	no idea
Mar 28 12:06:58 <leotreasure>	actually dw
Mar 28 12:07:05 <leotreasure>	it's down for me tho :(
Mar 28 12:07:16 <Chaang-Noi>	https://blockchain.info/wallet/
Mar 28 12:07:20 <Chaang-Noi>	this works fro me
Mar 28 12:07:57 <deadweasel>	i can get into mine.
Mar 28 12:08:17 <Chaang-Noi>	why do you use an online wallet site?
Mar 28 12:08:27 <Chaang-Noi>	is this not mybitcoin all over again?
Mar 28 12:09:42 <Chaang-Noi>	ltc trucking up "/
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Mar 28 12:14:10 <Chaang-Noi>	who here smokes cigars from time to time?
Mar 28 12:15:23 <kakobrekla>	i did cigarilos sometimes
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Mar 28 12:15:47 <kakobrekla>	kinda like those
Mar 28 12:15:56 <unbalanced>	Here we go people... about to hit $100 CAD on Virtex https://www.cavirtex.com/orderbook -- now at $99.99
Mar 28 12:16:37 <deadweasel>	Chaang-Noi: I use it as a hot wallet.
Mar 28 12:17:00 <abracadabra>	CAD?
Mar 28 12:17:02 <abracadabra>	pffft
Mar 28 12:17:18 <abracadabra>	isn't that like ixcoin or something?
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Mar 28 12:17:56 <unbalanced>	Heh... it's the alt-fiat of the future
Mar 28 12:18:10 <unbalanced>	CAD that is
Mar 28 12:18:40 <Chaang-Noi>	holding usd or cad....
Mar 28 12:18:49 <Chaang-Noi>	if i had to hold id do 50 each
Mar 28 12:20:09 <unbalanced>	100 CAD is just a little 300 BTC wall away.
Mar 28 12:20:46 <jurov>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/03/28/tradehill-exchange-adds-dark-pools-of-bitcoin-liquidity/
Mar 28 12:20:52 <jurov>	^ now there's some hot air
Mar 28 12:22:14 <Chaang-Noi>	yup
Mar 28 12:22:21 <Chaang-Noi>	trade hill looooool
Mar 28 12:22:36 <Chaang-Noi>	i exchange more than they do
Mar 28 12:22:49 <ThickAsThieves>	how does a dark pool not still influence price...
Mar 28 12:23:09 <Chaang-Noi>	a real ojne would
Mar 28 12:23:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i can see how it helps not influence price superficially
Mar 28 12:23:58 <ThickAsThieves>	but in the end, more asks is more asks
Mar 28 12:24:13 <pgp>	tradehill = douche bags
Mar 28 12:24:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont trust the fuckers, esp as they want dead gox codes
Mar 28 12:28:33 <Chaang-Noi>	as a goat i love cuban cigarz,
Mar 28 12:28:40 <Chaang-Noi>	you can chew on them forevar
Mar 28 12:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
Mar 28 12:29:51 <pgp>	it is amusing 10k min to open an account, but only 5k in gox code...  So amateurish...
Mar 28 12:30:02 <ThickAsThieves>	i like the smell of cigars but the taste and feel makes me feel like cancer is growing in my mouth :/
Mar 28 12:30:29 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe i just havent had a good enough cigar
Mar 28 12:33:05 <error4733>	!last m s.dice
Mar 28 12:33:05 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0031 BTC [-]
Mar 28 12:34:22 <error4733>	http://www.teevault.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Now-Panic-and-Freak-Out-Tshirt.jpg
Mar 28 12:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://www2.egovlink.com/press-release-bitcoin.cfm ahem
Mar 28 12:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	This guidance clarified the rules, and opened the door allowing municipalities to accept Bitcoin.  Government entities accepting Bitcoins is a natural evolution, as Bitcoin becomes more popular.
Mar 28 12:36:10 <kakobrekla>	lol i got an email from slovenian finance paper
Mar 28 12:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	  Now municipalities can offer their citizens another option in paying for services like permits, utilities, class or event registration, shelter reservations, or even parking tickets.
Mar 28 12:36:19 <kakobrekla>	askin about bitcoin
Mar 28 12:36:23 <kakobrekla>	if its dying
Mar 28 12:36:26 <kakobrekla>	or is it a scam
Mar 28 12:36:28 <kakobrekla>	rofl
Mar 28 12:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	the press is ahead of the curve.
Mar 28 12:36:46 <kakobrekla>	haha
Mar 28 12:37:17 <kakobrekla>	well apparently they want to write about it - ill try to stop too much idiocy
Mar 28 12:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	gl
Mar 28 12:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	uphill battle.
Mar 28 12:38:29 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 28 12:43:36 <error4733>	mp what do you thinks about last SD trade ?
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Mar 28 12:46:26 <arij>	#btct
Mar 28 12:46:29 <arij>	oops
Mar 28 12:46:35 <arij>	guess thats not a channel
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Mar 28 12:48:07 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 nothing, what'd i think ?
Mar 28 12:48:08 <ThickAsThieves>	is there a BTCT chan?
Mar 28 12:48:54 <mircea_popescu>	o wow there's a mepx chan
Mar 28 12:50:03 <smickles>	*an mpex
Mar 28 12:50:03 <arij>	i guess no btct chan.. i was just looking for it
Mar 28 12:50:31 <smickles>	unless you are saying "mee-pecks"
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Mar 28 12:57:01 <error4733>	mp :dunno, last time your analyze was jsut small sell but the big actor stay in
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Mar 28 12:58:52 <error4733>	but when you see this you shit brick : 467`937 S.DICE @ 0.00310000BTC = 1`450.60470000BTC.
Mar 28 13:02:28 <smickles>	;;calc 1450*7
Mar 28 13:02:28 <gribble>	10150
Mar 28 13:02:39 <smickles>	;;calc 1450*94
Mar 28 13:02:39 <gribble>	136300
Mar 28 13:05:48 <error4733>	haha thanx, true, it's only 135K$ of 35M$
Mar 28 13:07:25 <iz>	;;ticker
Mar 28 13:07:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.89001, Best ask: 94.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 94.00000, 24 hour volume: 64052.68029751, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 91.26068
Mar 28 13:11:14 <jborkl>	SD price at .0031 compared to januaru yield of .0002 or feb yield of .0001 (dont remember feb # of the top of mmy head
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Mar 28 13:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 a that. hehe yeah, kinda blows a hole in that theory huh
Mar 28 13:12:45 <jborkl>	SD canvhave a bad month here and there.nothing to panic about
Mar 28 13:14:00 <jborkl>	in sept i think. SD had a negative month.people panicked on lost out on great months after
Mar 28 13:14:50 <jborkl>	late last year.i dont remember when exactly
Mar 28 13:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	i think it was sept
Mar 28 13:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	or maybe oct
Mar 28 13:15:43 <error4733>	i thinks is not about negative month it's about btc rise
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Mar 28 13:15:47 <mircea_popescu>	right after ipo s.dice had a string of disasters. first pirate blew up within a week of ipo, froze markets for like a month
Mar 28 13:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	then they had a red month
Mar 28 13:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Mar 28 13:16:12 <error4733>	yes same price 0.0032
Mar 28 13:16:24 <error4733>	but with btc @6$...
Mar 28 13:16:41 <jborkl>	its been all good since then.weak hands just getting shaken out
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Mar 28 13:17:06 <error4733>	so you thinks SD value is 35M$ ?
Mar 28 13:17:29 <jborkl>	i am not a advisor
Mar 28 13:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	depends how you look at it error4733
Mar 28 13:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	yahoo recently paid 500mn for a bs service of summarizing newsfeeds.
Mar 28 13:19:24 <mircea_popescu>	it probably won't even use it for anything.
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Mar 28 13:20:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
Mar 28 13:23:46 <deadweasel>	google and yahoo and microsoft do that all the time. just to squish competition and get patents.
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Mar 28 13:27:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 21 @ 0.09 = 1.89 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:27:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1021 BTC [+]
Mar 28 13:27:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.102 = 2.04 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:29:41 <Bugpowder>	SP500 all time high
Mar 28 13:30:06 <taub>	btceur looking p bad on btc24
Mar 28 13:30:21 <taub>	66 eur more likely than you think
Mar 28 13:30:48 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 28 13:30:51 <gribble>	There are currently 34619556 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9415217.04575 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0176 seconds
Mar 28 13:30:54 <taub>	maybe i should move to that exchange
Mar 28 13:30:55 <taub>	... no fees
Mar 28 13:31:10 <taub>	and no api either i think
Mar 28 13:31:27 <taub>	make markets by hand all day
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Mar 28 13:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.37100001 = 2.968 BTC [+]
Mar 28 13:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.371 = 0.742 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:32:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.37045 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:32:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.3703 = 3.3327 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:32:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.37025 = 7.7753 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:32:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.37 = 3.33 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:37:08 <taub>	oh it has an api
Mar 28 13:39:07 <smickles>	any website has an api. the website is the api
Mar 28 13:39:23 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 28 13:39:24 <gribble>	There are currently 34622807 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9714550.54955 USD in total. | Data vintage: 93.5517 seconds
Mar 28 13:39:32 <Bugpowder>	here comes a minirally
Mar 28 13:40:39 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 13:40:40 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 28 13:40:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 96
Mar 28 13:40:50 <gribble>	There are currently 4669.9555 bitcoins offered at or under 96.0 USD, worth 445174.658652 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
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Mar 28 13:45:15 <smickles>	jeebus, 'merica doin' practice nuke runs over korea
Mar 28 13:47:07 <taub>	what a shitty site :?
Mar 28 13:47:17 <smickles>	which?
Mar 28 13:47:23 <taub>	bitcoin 24
Mar 28 13:47:23 <Bugpowder>	just a little pre workout warmup flex
Mar 28 13:48:42 <Bugpowder>	Back in college, was on the roof of a waterfront brownstone for a 4th of July party.  B2 bomber did a flyby down the Charles River.  Was DOPE.  Felt very patriotic. :-P
Mar 28 13:49:14 <smickles>	I used to live near the AFB where most of them are stationed
Mar 28 13:49:37 <smickles>	at some angles those things were practically invisible
Mar 28 13:49:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4284 @ 0.00060001 = 2.5704 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:49:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2845 @ 0.0006 = 1.707 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:50:28 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug, I used to live in Brighton, and Southie
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Mar 28 13:51:27 <jborkl>	mp, can I get a deposit cleared
Mar 28 13:52:21 <smickles>	he might not hilight on 'mp'
Mar 28 13:52:41 <jborkl>	true, thanks
Mar 28 13:53:09 <jborkl>	micrea_popescu , can I get a deposit cleared
Mar 28 13:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	flushed again
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Mar 28 13:55:09 <mircea_popescu>	why do you string them out like that anyway ?
Mar 28 13:56:46 <jborkl>	I am moving money around, and that is what I have at the time. I will bunch them up
Mar 28 13:57:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:57:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.003 = 0.03 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 13:57:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.00203 = 0.0041 BTC [-]
Mar 28 13:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	aite
Mar 28 13:59:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 987 @ 0.00201 = 1.9839 BTC [-]
Mar 28 14:02:11 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 28 14:02:11 <gribble>	There are currently 34623740 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9797949.0585 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.5180 seconds
Mar 28 14:02:17 <Bugpowder>	creeping up to atm
Mar 28 14:02:19 <Bugpowder>	ath
Mar 28 14:03:14 <ThickAsThieves>	on bitfloor?
Mar 28 14:03:26 <ThickAsThieves>	ATH was 95.70
Mar 28 14:04:40 <Bugpowder>	bid total
Mar 28 14:05:27 <ThickAsThieves>	oh sry
Mar 28 14:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Mar 28 14:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.44888888 = 1.3467 BTC [-]
Mar 28 14:09:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 26 @ 0.446 = 11.596 BTC [-]
Mar 28 14:09:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.445 = 4.45 BTC [-]
Mar 28 14:18:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.73 = 10.22 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 14:21:49 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 14:21:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.51007, Best ask: 94.23500, Bid-ask spread: 0.72493, Last trade: 93.51006, 24 hour volume: 63226.19879144, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 91.59074
Mar 28 14:22:20 <bowjob>	just woke up
Mar 28 14:22:24 <bowjob>	*yawn
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Mar 28 14:25:28 <burnside>	 I missed a pretty good conversation earlier.  <mircea_popescu> Namworld you're confusing things tho. burnside isn't touching fiat afaik.
Mar 28 14:26:38 <Bowjob_>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160292.msg1692107;boardseen#new
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Mar 28 14:30:10 <burnside>	So yeah, BTC Trading Corp is based in Belize.  It has a native Belize corporate director.  It has no bank accounts anywhere.  It does not touch USD.
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Mar 28 14:31:35 <ThickAsThieves>	Bow, that link is so sad if its true
Mar 28 14:31:47 <bowjob>	it doesnt ;look fake
Mar 28 14:31:50 <bowjob>	ill check thwe pixels
Mar 28 14:31:52 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Mar 28 14:31:59 <Bugpowder>	Even if its not, it is true for many businesses in Cyprus
Mar 28 14:32:10 <ThickAsThieves>	hideous thing
Mar 28 14:33:54 <benkay>	i want to see! what is thing?
Mar 28 14:34:09 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160292.msg1692107
Mar 28 14:34:55 <benkay>	ahahahaha
Mar 28 14:35:01 <benkay>	i mean
Mar 28 14:35:01 <benkay>	sucks
Mar 28 14:35:21 <benkay>	dangers of operating out of a russian owned tax haven
Mar 28 14:35:30 <benkay>	in a fucked up fake continental government
Mar 28 14:35:46 <benkay>	thanks thieves.
Mar 28 14:36:13 <benkay>	is this massive freezing of funds s.o.p. for cypress? i was under the impression they were just getting a 10% asset haircut.
Mar 28 14:36:19 <Bugpowder>	no nono
Mar 28 14:36:19 <benkay>	er, holdings?
Mar 28 14:36:28 <Bugpowder>	40% officially, with total frozen
Mar 28 14:36:35 <Bugpowder>	up to 80% possibly though
Mar 28 14:36:37 <benkay>	who 40% haircut?
Mar 28 14:36:39 <benkay>	wow
Mar 28 14:36:43 <Bugpowder>	everything over 100k
Mar 28 14:36:52 <benkay>	wow
Mar 28 14:36:55 <benkay>	just. wow.
Mar 28 14:37:03 <Bugpowder>	this is the alternative to taking the under 100k stuff
Mar 28 14:37:08 <benkay>	right
Mar 28 14:37:11 <benkay>	fuck the business owners
Mar 28 14:37:22 <Bugpowder>	this is why bitcoin is exploding upwards, yah know!
Mar 28 14:37:25 <benkay>	people who add real value to your economy
Mar 28 14:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.88 = 5.64 BTC [+]
Mar 28 14:38:12 <Bugpowder>	also, eurozone minister has said that due to lack of contaigon from this move means that they will look at this for recapitalization of any euro country.
Mar 28 14:38:21 <Bugpowder>	its a BFD
Mar 28 14:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.479 = 0.958 BTC [+]
Mar 28 14:42:47 <benkay>	nice
Mar 28 14:42:50 <benkay>	down with the eu
Mar 28 14:43:06 <benkay>	may they rot in the statist hell of their own fabrication
Mar 28 14:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	"democracy is the theory that people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard"
Mar 28 14:49:13 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Mar 28 14:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	which is why we have the "zero euro tolerance policy" to go witgh the earlier "zero usd tolerance policy"
Mar 28 14:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.445 = 3.56 BTC [-]
Mar 28 14:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder who said that/where ?
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Mar 28 14:55:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.73 = 5.84 BTC [+]
Mar 28 14:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
Mar 28 14:56:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
Mar 28 14:57:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.74 = 8.14 BTC [+]
Mar 28 14:57:36 <mircea_popescu>	At Berenberg Bank in London, chief economist Holger Schmieding said the lesson is that “countries will take a lot of pain to stay in the eurozone. The glue that holds the eurozone together remains strong.”
Mar 28 14:57:41 <mircea_popescu>	i guess we know which bank is going away next.
Mar 28 14:57:59 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 14:58:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.50003, Best ask: 93.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.41997, Last trade: 93.92000, 24 hour volume: 62212.42069655, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 91.71323
Mar 28 14:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.412 = 7.828 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 15:00:07 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: I saw it somewhere yesterday.
Mar 28 15:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	i sourced it meanwhile.
Mar 28 15:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	Dijsselbloem dood.
Mar 28 15:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	agricultural economist of great repute.
Mar 28 15:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	bright mind behind the sns real nationalisation earlier this year.
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Mar 28 15:09:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:09:32 <deadweasel>	btcquick seems to be out of coins too.
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Mar 28 15:12:17 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159935.msg1692099#msg1692099
Mar 28 15:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	coinbase fucks up more.
Mar 28 15:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	because there was really room or need for it.
Mar 28 15:13:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.721 BTC [-]
Mar 28 15:14:48 <pgp>	unbeliable..
Mar 28 15:14:58 <jborkl>	DeathandTaxes is always pretty funny to read
Mar 28 15:15:16 <bowjob>	ltc seems to be rising
Mar 28 15:15:40 <pgp>	coinbase (not CERN) discovers the antiBitcoin...
Mar 28 15:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	heh
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Mar 28 15:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	Transisto hey, is cavirtex your thing ?
Mar 28 15:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.449 = 1.347 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:19:03 <kakobrekla>	i know someone (not me) got more than they should
Mar 28 15:19:05 <kakobrekla>	from base
Mar 28 15:21:04 <deadweasel>	kakobrekla: i've been trying to send teh extra 30btc they put in my account several times.  never confirms though...
Mar 28 15:21:22 <deadweasel>	Those 30BTC reappear about twice a week, then they are gone.
Mar 28 15:21:27 <kakobrekla>	oh yeah, frequent occurance, i can proxy that for you
Mar 28 15:21:43 <kakobrekla>	oh
Mar 28 15:21:44 <kakobrekla>	nvm
Mar 28 15:21:56 <kakobrekla>	i thought you got em off
Mar 28 15:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it's for a mpex acct reg.
Mar 28 15:23:27 <pgp>	its folks like coinbase that are the real threat to bitcoin...
Mar 28 15:24:18 <deadweasel>	I think it's honest ineptitude.
Mar 28 15:24:42 <deadweasel>	they don't have the staff or know-how to keep the whole venture together.
Mar 28 15:25:46 <pgp>	unfortunate
Mar 28 15:26:30 <pgp>	important lesson from youth - don't bite off more than you can chew...
Mar 28 15:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.391 = 3.91 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:27:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.39099999 = 3.91 BTC [-]
Mar 28 15:28:07 <taub>	storm brewing
Mar 28 15:29:11 <deadweasel>	taub, is that BTC based coffee haus?  ;p
Mar 28 15:29:23 <bowjob>	ooh, i got some coffee for BTC
Mar 28 15:29:39 <bowjob>	whole beans, i had to grind it myself
Mar 28 15:31:08 <Bugpowder>	uh oh
Mar 28 15:31:17 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 15:31:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.50003, Best ask: 94.20987, Bid-ask spread: 0.70984, Last trade: 94.20987, 24 hour volume: 61725.33652781, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 91.83414
Mar 28 15:31:25 <bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 15:31:25 <Bugpowder>	ohhh noooo
Mar 28 15:31:26 <gribble>	34.970504 seconds
Mar 28 15:31:32 <bowjob>	?
Mar 28 15:31:40 <Bugpowder>	5000 BTC dump
Mar 28 15:31:58 <Bugpowder>	half a milli yo!
Mar 28 15:32:09 <pgp>	wow
Mar 28 15:32:43 <Bugpowder>	now how will the market respond
Mar 28 15:32:51 <pgp>	i think gox runs on a comodore 64
Mar 28 15:32:54 <bowjob>	umm. buy?
Mar 28 15:33:51 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 15:33:52 <gribble>	121.671051 seconds
Mar 28 15:33:57 <ThickAsThieves>	the bid is 1 higher than the as on clarkmoody
Mar 28 15:34:02 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 28 15:34:05 <ThickAsThieves>	ask*
Mar 28 15:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 28 15:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006 / 0.00060667 / 0.00061111 (71731 shares, 43.52 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.00066734 / 0.00073756 (1700409 shares, 1,134.76 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.00073559 / 0.00078628 (16751673 shares, 12,322.39 BTC)
Mar 28 15:35:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 28 15:35:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.50010, Best ask: 92.56500, Bid-ask spread: 0.06490, Last trade: 92.50010, 24 hour volume: 61725.33652781, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 91.83414
Mar 28 15:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 606670 * 91.83414
Mar 28 15:35:29 <gribble>	55713017.7138
Mar 28 15:35:31 <ThickAsThieves>	coinlab is current it seems 94
Mar 28 15:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	MWHAHAHAHA
Mar 28 15:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	FIRST!
Mar 28 15:35:49 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Mar 28 15:36:19 <deadweasel>	$55 Million in 24 hrs.
Mar 28 15:36:26 <deadweasel>	wait
Mar 28 15:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/317359515882385408
Mar 28 15:37:11 <ThickAsThieves>	oh you!
Mar 28 15:37:20 <ThickAsThieves>	grats!
Mar 28 15:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	ta-nanana
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Mar 28 15:37:54 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 15:37:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.50003, Best ask: 93.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34997, Last trade: 93.50002, 24 hour volume: 61725.33652781, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 91.83414
Mar 28 15:37:59 <damientrog>	congrats
Mar 28 15:38:13 <ThickAsThieves>	took that selloff like a champ too
Mar 28 15:38:46 <Uglux>	lol dat background on twitter
Mar 28 15:38:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00398996 = 7.9799 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:39:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00060104 = 1.2622 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:39:15 <ThickAsThieves>	mp you look a lot diff in some pics
Mar 28 15:39:25 <ThickAsThieves>	are some from years ago?
Mar 28 15:39:33 <Bugpowder>	lyke sometimes u so sexxy
Mar 28 15:39:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00061412 = 9.2118 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:39:40 <Bugpowder>	but sometimes not
Mar 28 15:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well the one on twitter background is from like 2004
Mar 28 15:39:54 <pgp>	lol
Mar 28 15:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i think that depends on who's taking da pix
Mar 28 15:40:03 <Bugpowder>	thats from his OKcupid profile
Mar 28 15:40:11 <ThickAsThieves>	sometimes you look like a professor, some like a folsky metrosexual :)
Mar 28 15:40:20 <ThickAsThieves>	folksy*
Mar 28 15:40:21 <Bugpowder>	sometimes a terrorist
Mar 28 15:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00398997 = 5.3865 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:40:38 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE RALLY
Mar 28 15:40:45 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Mar 28 15:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00061412 = 0.5527 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:41:03 <Bugpowder>	jborkl is making some buys
Mar 28 15:41:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00062188 = 5.4104 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 15:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves "Seemingly, but within that basic framework there are many subtle variations only discernible to an acute observer that reflect the many moods, the many shades, the many sides of George Costanza."
Mar 28 15:42:04 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 15:42:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.00001, Best ask: 93.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.83999, Last trade: 93.84000, 24 hour volume: 65843.44932600, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 91.98969
Mar 28 15:42:46 <ThickAsThieves>	"Everyone's blessed with one special thing." ~ Dirk Diggler
Mar 28 15:42:59 <pgp>	lol
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Mar 28 15:44:40 <pgp>	looks like bitfinex is down...
Mar 28 15:44:49 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, i do hope you've seen Boogie Nights
Mar 28 15:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Mar 28 15:45:16 <ThickAsThieves>	oh man
Mar 28 15:45:19 <KRS-1>	man..
Mar 28 15:45:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i have a feeling you'll LOVE it
Mar 28 15:45:30 <pgp>	gotta see it
Mar 28 15:45:31 <mircea_popescu>	i can't stand julienne moore
Mar 28 15:45:36 <KRS-1>	yea gotta see it
Mar 28 15:45:41 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah she's a little freaky looking
Mar 28 15:45:55 <ThickAsThieves>	but it's a great flick imo
Mar 28 15:46:00 <pgp>	i think julliane moore will surprise you in this movie
Mar 28 15:46:01 <mircea_popescu>	she's liek the embodiment of why gingers are alien evil things
Mar 28 15:46:32 <Bugpowder>	oh man
Mar 28 15:46:40 <Bugpowder>	she is great in that movie
Mar 28 15:46:44 <Bugpowder>	what a great movie
Mar 28 15:46:45 <pgp>	can anyone else get to bitfinex?
Mar 28 15:46:49 <Bugpowder>	I need to watch that again
Mar 28 15:46:50 <bowjob>	All right. My Casa coin is here, I will pick it up
Mar 28 15:46:53 <bowjob>	Wooooot
Mar 28 15:46:53 <Bugpowder>	been 10 years
Mar 28 15:47:04 <ThickAsThieves>	its great not because its about porn too
Mar 28 15:47:12 <ThickAsThieves>	its just great
Mar 28 15:47:18 <bowjob>	I usually chuck coins around.. this one is gonna be precious
Mar 28 15:48:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol okay, i'll add it to the list
Mar 28 15:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	if i get pissed off and end up whipping innocenty bystander nude girlies it'll be on your collective conscience.
Mar 28 15:48:43 <pgp>	yikes: http://www.bitcoinity.org/markets?currency=USD&exchange=btce
Mar 28 15:49:12 <smickles>	btce does shit like that sometimes
Mar 28 15:49:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 987 @ 0.34793577 = 343.4126 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:49:38 <smickles>	;;market --sell 700
Mar 28 15:49:39 <gribble>	A market order to sell 700 bitcoins right now would net 64397.2774 USD and would take the last price down to 91.5000 USD, resulting in an average price of 91.9961 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 44.7079 seconds
Mar 28 15:49:49 <ThickAsThieves>	no, you'd get pissed if i told you to watch Magnolia
Mar 28 15:49:53 <smickles>	on gox that wouldn't have gone so far
Mar 28 15:50:20 <ThickAsThieves>	or maybe you'd like it
Mar 28 15:50:31 <ThickAsThieves>	its the best worst movie ive seen
Mar 28 15:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.32624087 = 326.2409 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:50:44 <pgp>	agreed, terrible
Mar 28 15:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	massive sellof
Mar 28 15:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	i think this is it, we only got so far so i could have my 50mn landmark
Mar 28 15:51:34 <mircea_popescu>	fasten buttbelts, we're going to 35
Mar 28 15:51:49 <bowjob>	yeap. back to single digits
Mar 28 15:51:51 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Mar 28 15:51:51 <assbot>	Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
Mar 28 15:51:53 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 15:51:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.28000, Best ask: 93.38999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 93.28000, 24 hour volume: 66005.58663438, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 92.00435
Mar 28 15:51:54 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 28 15:51:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.28000, Best ask: 93.38999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 93.28000, 24 hour volume: 66005.58663438, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 92.00435
Mar 28 15:52:03 <bowjob>	Sell off of USD?
Mar 28 15:52:13 <Bugpowder>	huh?
Mar 28 15:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=2&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&
Mar 28 15:52:21 <Bugpowder>	Just got off the phone with Tesla
Mar 28 15:52:23 <pgp>	i wouldn't be surprised to see a selloff down to the 60's
Mar 28 15:52:31 <Bugpowder>	test drive on Saturday, after the Audi visit
Mar 28 15:52:33 <ThickAsThieves>	thats a big red boner
Mar 28 15:52:44 <Bugpowder>	pgp, we will probably hit the 60s and bounce right back
Mar 28 15:52:54 <Bugpowder>	maybe this weekend
Mar 28 15:52:59 <pgp>	i agree as well
Mar 28 15:53:02 <ThickAsThieves>	i am not seeing this drop you speak of
Mar 28 15:53:06 <ThickAsThieves>	94
Mar 28 15:53:15 <mircea_popescu>	i said selloff not drop.
Mar 28 15:53:20 <Bugpowder>	I have quite the stack in gox ready to go
Mar 28 15:53:31 <bowjob>	It's just means weak hands going to strong hands
Mar 28 15:53:32 <bowjob>	thats all
Mar 28 15:53:35 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 28 15:53:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.30475646 = 304.7565 BTC [+]
Mar 28 15:53:43 <Bugpowder>	I'm so weeeek
Mar 28 15:53:59 <ThickAsThieves>	Tesla is just stroger than you
Mar 28 15:54:01 <smickles>	options have been closing out, eh?
Mar 28 15:54:19 <Bugpowder>	the guy selling this options is literally an idiot
Mar 28 15:54:32 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 15:54:32 <Bugpowder>	(sorry if you are listening)
Mar 28 15:54:33 <gribble>	91.87
Mar 28 15:54:36 <mircea_popescu>	smickles slowly yeah
Mar 28 15:54:40 <pgp>	that's right - lots of new entrants - they'll run for cover at the first sign of trouble
Mar 28 15:54:51 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i've noticed the low ones are selling, like 610 630
Mar 28 15:55:00 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he judges the potential upside not worth the risk.
Mar 28 15:55:09 <smickles>	lol, Bugpowder I was about to ask if that was you :D
Mar 28 15:55:12 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Mar 28 15:55:16 <pgp>	more selling at BTC-e...
Mar 28 15:55:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [-]
Mar 28 15:55:19 <Bugpowder>	what is the time premium on them right now
Mar 28 15:55:31 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much nothing.
Mar 28 15:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	but something like this : got them around 10, selling them for 30something is 3x his capital.
Mar 28 15:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	why wait for maybe 4x ?
Mar 28 15:56:10 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe wants to cash out?
Mar 28 15:56:19 <Bugpowder>	;;calc (91.87-65)/91.87
Mar 28 15:56:20 <gribble>	0.292478502231
Mar 28 15:56:36 <Bugpowder>	;;calc .30475-(91.87-65)/91.87
Mar 28 15:56:37 <gribble>	0.0122714977686
Mar 28 15:56:56 <Bugpowder>	;;calc (.30475-(91.87-65)/91.87)*91.87
Mar 28 15:56:57 <gribble>	1.1273825
Mar 28 15:57:06 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Mar 28 15:57:14 <Bugpowder>	ok.  It's not idiocy
Mar 28 15:58:01 <Bugpowder>	not sure if I agree with it but, vwap is effectively priced at 93.0 with the bot bid
Mar 28 15:59:00 <Bugpowder>	bot goes offline at 00:00 GMT?
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Mar 28 15:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	no, just stops quoting t's.
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Mar 28 15:59:49 <Bugpowder>	yeah, but it happens at 00:00 GMT?
Mar 28 15:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 28 15:59:55 <Bugpowder>	ok
Mar 28 15:59:58 <gesell>	am i the only one left holding s.dice
Mar 28 15:59:58 <gesell>	?
Mar 28 16:00:13 <smickles>	couldn't be
Mar 28 16:00:16 <bowjob>	i dumped dice a long time ago
Mar 28 16:00:16 <bowjob>	lol
Mar 28 16:00:18 <Bugpowder>	gesell: someone is holding 13MM share
Mar 28 16:00:32 <Bugpowder>	just a blip in the long term
Mar 28 16:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	gesell unless you're holding > 10mn i'd say no.
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Mar 28 16:01:47 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 28 16:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006 / 0.0006091 / 0.00062188 (98431 shares, 59.95 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.00066543 / 0.00072379 (1699609 shares, 1,130.98 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.0007354 / 0.00078628 (16778373 shares, 12,338.83 BTC)
Mar 28 16:01:51 <thestringpuller>	poor mircea_popescu
Mar 28 16:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	poor, poor, poor sir robert
Mar 28 16:02:13 <thestringpuller>	need to start making arrangements to short MPOE at this rate...
Mar 28 16:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4SJ0xR2_bQ
Mar 28 16:02:37 <thestringpuller>	why you sending me youtube videos if you don't have flash :P
Mar 28 16:03:15 <ThickAsThieves>	youtube doesnt need flash
Mar 28 16:03:19 <pgp>	bitfinex is still unavailable - I wonder what's going on...
Mar 28 16:03:43 <ThickAsThieves>	the verge just reposted that businessweek article
Mar 28 16:03:47 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/28/4157796/an-optimistic-theory-of-bitcoin-as-a-hedge-against-the-entire-global
Mar 28 16:03:51 <kakobrekla>	incapable fucks are doing bitcoin is what its going on
Mar 28 16:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062188 = 3.9178 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11865 @ 0.00062464 = 7.4114 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00062766 = 8.85 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:04:58 <thestringpuller>	that's a surprise
Mar 28 16:05:05 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 16:05:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.13482, Best ask: 93.29999, Bid-ask spread: 1.16517, Last trade: 93.29999, 24 hour volume: 66166.83414017, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 92.03285
Mar 28 16:05:06 <thestringpuller>	incapable fucks doing bitcoin
Mar 28 16:05:14 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 16:05:15 <gribble>	91.98
Mar 28 16:05:29 <bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 16:05:30 <gribble>	0.296031 seconds
Mar 28 16:05:42 <gesell>	are there historical charts for S.DICE? would be interested to see how the stock performed during similar rocky months
Mar 28 16:06:01 <thestringpuller>	whoa mpex hosts bitcoinity?
Mar 28 16:06:04 <thestringpuller>	who runs bitcoinity?
Mar 28 16:06:07 <thestringpuller>	SHOW YOURSELF
Mar 28 16:06:21 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 28 16:06:21 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 minutes and 7 seconds ago: <smickles> couldn't be
Mar 28 16:07:14 <mircea_popescu>	pgp maybe somebody finally got bored of their idiocy and used one of the five i mean eight i mean nine billion ror 0days
Mar 28 16:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller comboy.
Mar 28 16:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i like these journotards copy/pasting dumbed down versions of what i was writing months ago and figuring they're part of the conversation.
Mar 28 16:08:49 <pgp>	my spidey sense tells me that something is about to happen
Mar 28 16:10:19 <thestringpuller>	the bubble is about to collapse
Mar 28 16:10:27 <thestringpuller>	because popescu is going to sell off 400000 coins
Mar 28 16:10:35 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 400000
Mar 28 16:10:38 <gribble>	A market order to sell 400000 bitcoins right now would net 9392061.3579 USD and would take the last price down to 0.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 23.4802 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0149 seconds
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Mar 28 16:11:29 <ThickAsThieves>	at least theyre trying?
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Mar 28 16:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so.
Mar 28 16:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i'm not selling anything.
Mar 28 16:12:11 <ThickAsThieves>	please don't
Mar 28 16:12:12 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 28 16:12:45 <pgp>	a shakeout at these level would be healthy
Mar 28 16:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	i need my bitcoins to trade 5 for a used tesla later on.
Mar 28 16:12:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062187 = 3.1094 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.32710954 = 327.1095 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 16:14:02 <thestringpuller>	whoa whoa
Mar 28 16:14:05 <thestringpuller>	more calls!
Mar 28 16:14:24 <ThickAsThieves>	am i confused or is buying that option so close to deadline rather questionable?
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Mar 28 16:14:27 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (98 - 63) / 98
Mar 28 16:14:28 <gribble>	0.357142857143
Mar 28 16:14:33 <thestringpuller>	now
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Mar 28 16:14:38 <thestringpuller>	that might pay off
Mar 28 16:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure those are sold not bought
Mar 28 16:14:57 <smickles>	thestringpuller: probably selling back purchased ones
Mar 28 16:15:00 <smickles>	at a profit
Mar 28 16:15:14 <ThickAsThieves>	oh, maybe i misunderstand how the [+] works
Mar 28 16:15:23 <thestringpuller>	+ means greater than last price
Mar 28 16:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	+ just means current price higher than prev price
Mar 28 16:15:31 <thestringpuller>	- means less than last price
Mar 28 16:15:41 <ThickAsThieves>	thats funny, because thats what i used to think it meant
Mar 28 16:15:44 <ThickAsThieves>	and then i was like nah
Mar 28 16:15:50 <ThickAsThieves>	it must be buy/sell
Mar 28 16:16:10 <thestringpuller>	yea those were sold
Mar 28 16:16:15 <ThickAsThieves>	k
Mar 28 16:16:21 <thestringpuller>	I wonder what the profit was on those
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Mar 28 16:16:36 <thestringpuller>	i feel bad for MPOE bot
Mar 28 16:16:38 <thestringpuller>	gettin' raped
Mar 28 16:16:48 <thestringpuller>	like one of mircea_popescu hoes
Mar 28 16:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Mar 28 16:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136450180885.gif
Mar 28 16:17:54 <pgp>	uh oh...
Mar 28 16:17:58 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 16:17:59 <gribble>	95.704825 seconds
Mar 28 16:18:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.3056527 = 305.6527 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:18:29 <ThickAsThieves>	oh nooooooo
Mar 28 16:18:48 <ThickAsThieves>	91
Mar 28 16:19:08 <pgp>	sell now, you'll be able to buy back cheeper
Mar 28 16:20:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 28 16:20:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.32000, Best ask: 90.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 90.32000, 24 hour volume: 66265.68140184, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 92.04115
Mar 28 16:20:51 <ThickAsThieves>	its a trap!
Mar 28 16:21:05 <ThickAsThieves>	90
Mar 28 16:21:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 16:21:26 <gribble>	91.98
Mar 28 16:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.3055781 = 305.5781 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:22:57 <ThickAsThieves>	89.6
Mar 28 16:23:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.28411896 = 284.119 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.26265983 = 262.6598 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:23:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.21974155 = 219.7416 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:23:13 <thestringpuller>	Dude what is this nonsense?
Mar 28 16:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.24120069 = 241.2007 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.19828242 = 198.2824 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	panic.
Mar 28 16:23:46 <taub>	good buy level
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Mar 28 16:24:05 <taub>	$5 isn't really that much considering it's at 90
Mar 28 16:24:21 <thestringpuller>	this panic may help MPOE bot...
Mar 28 16:24:25 <jborkl>	looks like a regular opex date to me
Mar 28 16:24:29 <thestringpuller>	drop to 85 come on
Mar 28 16:24:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 300 @ 0.00050015 = 0.15 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 16:25:00 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 16:25:03 <gribble>	91.98
Mar 28 16:25:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.74 = 7.4 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:25:25 <taub>	i was short twice today
Mar 28 16:25:28 <taub>	at 94 :(
Mar 28 16:25:33 <taub>	but closed out @ breakeven
Mar 28 16:25:38 <taub>	and slight loss
Mar 28 16:25:50 <ThickAsThieves>	87.85
Mar 28 16:25:51 <taub>	if you fish, you gotta stick to it
Mar 28 16:25:52 <taub>	damnit
Mar 28 16:26:05 <thestringpuller>	YES YES
Mar 28 16:26:11 <thestringpuller>	I LOVE DIPS
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Mar 28 16:26:23 <pgp>	funny thing is that I shorted on bitfinex and now I can't even get to the fuckin' site!
Mar 28 16:26:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 28 16:26:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.90001, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 66265.68140184, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 92.04115
Mar 28 16:26:31 <Bugpowder>	Sheet
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Mar 28 16:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	it's going down.
Mar 28 16:26:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00411 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:27:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.74 = 7.4 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:27:40 <thestringpuller>	You're still making money Bugpowder
Mar 28 16:27:41 <thestringpuller>	:P
Mar 28 16:27:52 <thestringpuller>	83-84 was the target price
Mar 28 16:28:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C590T] 1000 @ 0.3699555 = 369.9555 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:28:23 <taub>	the thing to remember now is
Mar 28 16:28:27 <taub>	sell when it's this low
Mar 28 16:28:33 <taub>	because it will go to zero
Mar 28 16:28:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.34849637 = 348.4964 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:28:42 <pgp>	[16:08] <pgp> my spidey sense tells me that something is about to happen
Mar 28 16:28:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.32703723 = 327.0372 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:29:11 <ThickAsThieves>	look at all those tesla coins
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Mar 28 16:29:17 <taub>	oh damn
Mar 28 16:29:18 <taub>	85
Mar 28 16:29:19 <taub>	!
Mar 28 16:29:20 <smickles>	$vwap oix
Mar 28 16:29:21 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 83.57363506 high: 83.58929887 low: 61.9373141 volume: 67796 btc: 11746.6100017 30 day: no data
Mar 28 16:30:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 16:30:06 <gribble>	416.112945 seconds
Mar 28 16:30:13 <ThickAsThieves>	yeesh
Mar 28 16:30:16 <taub>	delicious
Mar 28 16:30:18 <thestringpuller>	heavy trading
Mar 28 16:30:23 <TomServo>	Don't think I've seen it that high yet.
Mar 28 16:30:27 <taub>	i think i know what the lag is and how you can cause it
Mar 28 16:30:33 <taub>	haven't tested it yet
Mar 28 16:30:34 <taub>	and not telling
Mar 28 16:30:51 <ThickAsThieves>	thanks for sharing
Mar 28 16:30:55 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 16:30:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 84.68400, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.31600, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 66265.68140184, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 92.04115
Mar 28 16:30:59 <thestringpuller>	holy shit
Mar 28 16:31:09 <taub>	Bugpowder: you get out?
Mar 28 16:31:20 <Bugpowder_>	working on it...
Mar 28 16:31:21 <thestringpuller>	HAH
Mar 28 16:31:22 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 28 16:31:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 84.68400, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.31600, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 66265.68140184, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 92.04115
Mar 28 16:31:42 <pgp>	I think somewhere in the 60's is where it'll bottom out and presumable bounce back...
Mar 28 16:31:58 <ThickAsThieves>	why?
Mar 28 16:32:04 <thestringpuller>	why the 60's?
Mar 28 16:32:06 <taub>	idk, bounce before likely, then it might try 60
Mar 28 16:32:23 <taub>	60 is a bit far imo
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Mar 28 16:32:35 <taub>	80, and then worse from there, but not in one huge move
Mar 28 16:32:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.23792695 = 237.927 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:33:00 <taub>	and now we play the lag game
Mar 28 16:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.2163756 = 216.3756 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:33:06 <taub>	:(
Mar 28 16:33:13 <smickles>	www.teevault.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Now-Panic-and-Freak-Out-Tshirt.jpg << good find whoever earlier
Mar 28 16:33:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.19482424 = 194.8242 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:33:28 <Bugpowder_>	out
Mar 28 16:33:45 <Bugpowder_>	60 is far
Mar 28 16:33:47 <Bugpowder_>	69 is not
Mar 28 16:34:13 <pgp>	60 was last support
Mar 28 16:34:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 10 @ 0.32413236 = 3.2413 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:34:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 4 @ 0.15280605 = 0.6112 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:34:53 <pgp>	70000 traded in the low 60's before going back up
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Mar 28 16:35:05 <smickles>	;;calc 75/(1-.1528)
Mar 28 16:35:05 <gribble>	88.5269121813
Mar 28 16:35:15 <ThickAsThieves>	are you talking eurps or sumth?
Mar 28 16:35:25 <ThickAsThieves>	euros*
Mar 28 16:35:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 28 16:35:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.80000, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 66265.68140184, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 92.04115
Mar 28 16:36:02 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 16:36:03 <gribble>	347.343151 seconds
Mar 28 16:36:05 <Diablo-D3>	why are we going down :<
Mar 28 16:36:12 <thestringpuller>	smickles pm
Mar 28 16:36:12 <Bugpowder_>	why were we going up?
Mar 28 16:36:18 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 28 16:36:21 <Bugpowder_>	this is a temporary setback
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Mar 28 16:36:38 <pgp>	healthy pull back
Mar 28 16:37:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 300 @ 0.2594783 = 77.8435 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 300 @ 0.28102966 = 84.3089 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:37:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 300 @ 0.30258101 = 90.7743 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:37:29 <pgp>	goddamned bitfinex!
Mar 28 16:37:49 <bitesak>	are these assbot messages options that are exercised?
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Mar 28 16:38:07 <Bugpowder_>	no, sold to bot
Mar 28 16:38:15 <ThickAsThieves>	does bot pay more?
Mar 28 16:38:21 <Bugpowder_>	yes
Mar 28 16:38:29 <ThickAsThieves>	nuts
Mar 28 16:38:32 <Bugpowder_>	about .012 more atm
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Mar 28 16:38:40 <bitesak>	is there no way to cancel an order in coinbr ?
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Mar 28 16:38:57 <ThickAsThieves>	dashborad
Mar 28 16:39:01 <smickles>	$mpexlag
Mar 28 16:39:02 <mpexbot>	smickles: 0.108469963074 seconds
Mar 28 16:39:03 <ThickAsThieves>	click cancel
Mar 28 16:39:04 <Bugpowder_>	lol watch this bounce higher than ever
Mar 28 16:39:11 <jurov>	bitesak, how does the order look on dashboard?
Mar 28 16:39:18 <Ukto>	Bugpowder_: possibly
Mar 28 16:39:21 <Bugpowder_>	smickles: did u just take down your bot?
Mar 28 16:39:26 <Namworld>	0.1942415 per 75 calls
Mar 28 16:39:27 <Ukto>	but its time for fridays weekend drop tomorrow
Mar 28 16:39:32 <Namworld>	I just cashed out =/
Mar 28 16:39:34 <smickles>	Bugpowder_: mine's being delayed by gox
Mar 28 16:39:42 <bitesak>	open order queued
Mar 28 16:39:58 <Ukto>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 16:39:59 <gribble>	232.493412 seconds
Mar 28 16:40:00 <pgp>	bitfinex back up
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Mar 28 16:40:53 <ThickAsThieves>	for all my bitching about gox suggested price freezing, i should note it's frozen at 92.7 atm
Mar 28 16:41:11 <bitesak>	I don't see any cancel button in dashboard. There is detail and Copy Order...
Mar 28 16:41:19 <smickles>	jurov: ^
Mar 28 16:41:28 <smickles>	help this one already
Mar 28 16:41:40 <jurov>	yes, but is the order Queued or Waiting  or?
Mar 28 16:41:45 <bitesak>	Queued
Mar 28 16:41:59 <Bugpowder_>	poor guy who bot $5000 off me this morning @ 97.54
Mar 28 16:42:05 <jurov>	sth broke then.. looking into it...
Mar 28 16:42:24 <smickles>	there we go, soebot is back
Mar 28 16:42:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 23 @ 0.01006016 = 0.2314 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P730T] 52 @ 0.00903515 = 0.4698 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:43:35 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 16:43:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.30000, Best ask: 87.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 87.30000, 24 hour volume: 66265.68140184, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 92.04115
Mar 28 16:43:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 16:43:51 <gribble>	349.718471 seconds
Mar 28 16:43:55 <ThickAsThieves>	:P
Mar 28 16:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.16930804 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.19341941 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 16:44:26 <Namworld>	this put was worth .194
Mar 28 16:44:32 <smickles>	and mpoebot is back
Mar 28 16:44:47 <smickles>	;;calc 73/(1-.134)
Mar 28 16:44:48 <gribble>	84.2956120092
Mar 28 16:44:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 4 @ 0.21510589 = 0.8604 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:45:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.19351975 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:45:39 <bitesak>	thanks jurov
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Mar 28 16:46:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 999 @ 0.19351975 = 193.3262 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:46:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 995 @ 0.21510589 = 214.0304 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:46:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.23669203 = 236.692 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:46:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.25827817 = 258.2782 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:46:46 <MJR__>	hi all
Mar 28 16:46:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.27986431 = 279.8643 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:46:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.30145045 = 301.4505 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:46:54 <bitesak>	anychance it can be fixed soon so I can take care of this before heading out?
Mar 28 16:47:05 <bowjob>	crash?
Mar 28 16:47:08 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 16:47:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.00000, Best ask: 89.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 66265.68140184, 24 hour low: 86.63000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 92.04115
Mar 28 16:47:12 <bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 16:47:13 <gribble>	50.309144 seconds
Mar 28 16:47:27 <smickles>	$vwap oi
Mar 28 16:47:28 <thestringpuller>	Deshi Basara
Mar 28 16:47:28 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 84.67319583 high: 84.68490566 low: 66.22384528 volume: 77763 btc: 14138.0440799 30 day: no data
Mar 28 16:47:54 <MJR__>	;;bc,24prc
Mar 28 16:47:55 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24prc" is not a valid command.
Mar 28 16:47:59 <MJR__>	:(
Mar 28 16:48:12 <smickles>	h
Mar 28 16:48:29 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 16:48:30 <gribble>	91.43
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Mar 28 16:49:25 <jborkl>	someone needs to take assbot out for a drink
Mar 28 16:50:05 <jurov>	bitesak: fixed
Mar 28 16:50:10 <bitesak>	yeah
Mar 28 16:51:28 <smickles>	so that 700 dump on btce really spooked some people, eh?
Mar 28 16:51:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 4 @ 0.15103205 = 0.6041 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:52:21 <Diablo-D3>	man
Mar 28 16:52:41 <Diablo-D3>	what happened to that one asshole that hung around here and annoyed the shit out of me because I wuldnt give him preferencial treatment
Mar 28 16:52:55 <taub>	so sleepy :(
Mar 28 16:53:53 <smickles>	oh, noes, i can't fetch mtgox depth
Mar 28 16:54:04 <bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 16:54:05 <gribble>	116.093614 seconds
Mar 28 16:54:09 <bowjob>	fail more gox
Mar 28 16:54:37 <bowjob>	we dropped to 84
Mar 28 16:54:38 <bowjob>	lol
Mar 28 16:54:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1201 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:55:09 <bowjob>	back to less than a billion
Mar 28 16:55:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:55:40 <smickles>	no champagne for goat
Mar 28 16:55:51 <smickles>	and he had it on ice, ready to go
Mar 28 16:56:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.119 = 0.833 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:56:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:56:22 <bowjob>	i got my 1 btc
Mar 28 16:56:23 <bowjob>	coin
Mar 28 16:56:26 <bowjob>	looks pretty
Mar 28 16:56:41 <smickles>	casacius?
Mar 28 16:56:46 <bowjob>	yah
Mar 28 16:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.2133214 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.19168637 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:57:18 <bowjob>	these bears are gonna be in a world of hurt
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Mar 28 16:57:59 <MJR__>	yep
Mar 28 16:58:25 <pgp>	next leg down
Mar 28 16:58:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 999 @ 0.19168637 = 191.4947 BTC [+]
Mar 28 16:58:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.14425872 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 999 @ 0.2133214 = 213.1081 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:58:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.16512605 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:58:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.23495643 = 234.9564 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.25659146 = 256.5915 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:58:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.27822649 = 278.2265 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 700 @ 0.29986152 = 209.9031 BTC [-]
Mar 28 16:59:17 <smickles>	bowjob: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110002005484628672852/posts/418r6Ur4SZd
Mar 28 16:59:32 <taub>	i think the lag might be because all the fund checks mtgox does, like you can put in orders witout having funds
Mar 28 16:59:37 <bowjob>	mines the one on the left
Mar 28 16:59:38 <bowjob>	lol
Mar 28 16:59:44 <taub>	when another order gets filled mtgox will fund those other orders insantly
Mar 28 16:59:50 <thestringpuller>	smickles: hey
Mar 28 16:59:51 <taub>	putting the exchange on hold first
Mar 28 16:59:55 <bowjob>	smick
Mar 28 17:00:02 <bowjob>	GJ on the 10 BTC coin
Mar 28 17:00:08 <bowjob>	I'd love to get a 2013 on
Mar 28 17:00:20 <bowjob>	this coin I have will be a perma physical coin
Mar 28 17:00:21 <pgp>	crazy volatility
Mar 28 17:00:53 <bowjob>	What I don't understand is why someone would cash out to fiat
Mar 28 17:00:54 <bowjob>	lol
Mar 28 17:00:54 <bowjob>	wtf
Mar 28 17:00:57 <thestringpuller>	what the hell
Mar 28 17:00:59 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
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Mar 28 17:01:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.00000, Best ask: 90.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 90.00000, 24 hour volume: 78305.80736563, 24 hour low: 84.68400, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 91.32378
Mar 28 17:01:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 43 @ 0.1161 = 4.9923 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:01:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 40 @ 0.1115 = 4.46 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:01:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.108 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:02:13 <smickles>	bowjob: btw, that lappy in the background was freshly purchased with btc :D
Mar 28 17:02:27 <bowjob>	gratz
Mar 28 17:02:55 <smickles>	the spoils of war!
Mar 28 17:02:59 <Diablo-D3>	so no one has seen eskimobob around?
Mar 28 17:03:07 <smickles>	not in a little while
Mar 28 17:03:11 <pgp>	one more chance to sell
Mar 28 17:03:27 <Diablo-D3>	meh
Mar 28 17:03:29 <thestringpuller>	;;seen EskimoBob
Mar 28 17:03:30 <gribble>	EskimoBob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 20 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <EskimoBob> wow, LOOK! A 11 btc trade at pervert bazaar. Must be a killer week of trading :)
Mar 28 17:03:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 28 17:03:41 <TomServo>	hahaha
Mar 28 17:03:43 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 28 17:03:48 <Diablo-D3>	maybe he ragequit when I started making good on my promise
Mar 28 17:04:10 <bowjob>	he could be tiber actually
Mar 28 17:04:15 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 80
Mar 28 17:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't he running some glbsesque asset ?
Mar 28 17:04:18 <gribble>	There are currently 5726.2787 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 474027.313763 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0059 seconds
Mar 28 17:04:24 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but he defaulted iirc
Mar 28 17:04:29 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 95
Mar 28 17:04:30 <gribble>	There are currently 5196.4086 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 485299.540029 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.2856 seconds
Mar 28 17:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?!
Mar 28 17:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	link ?
Mar 28 17:04:35 <jurov>	art defaaulted?
Mar 28 17:04:45 <Diablo-D3>	cant remember the name of the asset
Mar 28 17:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3788 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:05:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.37100001 = 2.597 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:05:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.371 = 10.759 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:05:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.37 = 8.51 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:05:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.37 = 1.48 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:05:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.19098576 = 190.9858 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:05:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.21263947 = 212.6395 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:05:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.23429318 = 234.2932 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:05:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.2559469 = 255.9469 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:05:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.27760061 = 277.6006 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.435 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:06:34 <taub>	5 min lag
Mar 28 17:06:39 <taub>	3
Mar 28 17:06:51 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 88
Mar 28 17:06:54 <gribble>	There are currently 1009.4445 bitcoins demanded at or over 88.0 USD, worth 88831.1116898 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0064 seconds
Mar 28 17:07:01 <thestringpuller>	bid walls are going up...
Mar 28 17:07:38 <bowjob>	Cheap coins
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Mar 28 17:10:37 <taub>	easter weekend...
Mar 28 17:10:46 <taub>	lots of people being at home and having plenty of time to panic
Mar 28 17:10:48 <taub>	:)
Mar 28 17:10:51 <taub>	gonna be interesting
Mar 28 17:10:51 <pgp>	they'll get cheaper
Mar 28 17:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.19957113 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:11:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.17589554 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:11:50 <thestringpuller>	somone bought the .17 option?
Mar 28 17:13:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 999 @ 0.1904595 = 190.269 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:13:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 999 @ 0.21212725 = 211.9151 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:13:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.23379499 = 233.795 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.25546274 = 255.4627 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.27713049 = 277.1305 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:14:16 <pgp>	a lot of for sale at 87
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Mar 28 17:14:44 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160292
Mar 28 17:14:46 <smickles>	;;title
Mar 28 17:14:46 <gribble>	(title <url>) -- Returns the HTML <title>...</title> of a URL.
Mar 28 17:14:55 <smickles>	bah
Mar 28 17:15:08 <smickles>	cyprus taking monies
Mar 28 17:15:13 <Cylta>	so, when popescu are planning to sell his coins? I will not believe that he will pass this fun:-)
Mar 28 17:15:49 <pgp>	look out below
Mar 28 17:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	sell for what ?
Mar 28 17:16:19 <smickles>	Cylta: mp has said befor that he doesn't intend to sell
Mar 28 17:16:34 <Cylta>	hmm.. for chinese or japanese money.
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Mar 28 17:16:53 <Cylta>	smicles, oh, thanks. I did not see it.
Mar 28 17:17:19 <pgp>	new low
Mar 28 17:17:39 <Cylta>	however, for me its strange to loose such oportunity...
Mar 28 17:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	what opportunity is that ?
Mar 28 17:18:40 <Cylta>	to play with big fluctuation, that may happen soon.
Mar 28 17:18:53 <thestringpuller>	;;eauth
Mar 28 17:18:54 <gribble>	(eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
Mar 28 17:19:01 <thestringpuller>	;;eauth thestringpuller
Mar 28 17:19:02 <gribble>	Request successful for user thestringpuller, hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/0FF2943DA179E169
Mar 28 17:19:41 <thestringpuller>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e00de96eba2eeab5e6a9455a939de58ac170fb9de7b1e0d9b356eda6
Mar 28 17:19:42 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user thestringpuller with key 0FF2943DA179E169
Mar 28 17:19:44 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Mar 28 17:19:45 <gribble>	You are identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
Mar 28 17:19:55 <Cylta>	nevermind, too late, its happening right now :-)
Mar 28 17:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.15683346 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	i'm probably the largest player anyway, indirectly, via mpoe bot.
Mar 28 17:22:01 <pgp>	and now comes the panic selling
Mar 28 17:22:30 <thestringpuller>	maybe a good time to buy puts...
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Mar 28 17:22:53 <kleinlol>	cheap coins ^^^
Mar 28 17:23:09 <Namworld>	no, not a good time. Expire next day
Mar 28 17:23:17 <Namworld>	PUTs too expensive
Mar 28 17:23:26 <Namworld>	Better wait till after Friday
Mar 28 17:23:34 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 17:23:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.50000, Best ask: 83.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 83.00000, 24 hour volume: 86859.06297305, 24 hour low: 82.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.77563
Mar 28 17:23:39 <bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 17:23:40 <gribble>	153.416772 seconds
Mar 28 17:23:51 <jurov>	such a patience test for me ear every month's end
Mar 28 17:24:09 <jurov>	sitting on heap of MPBPT funds and avoid doing anything stupid with them
Mar 28 17:24:27 <jurov>	:)
Mar 28 17:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 28 17:24:41 <jurov>	as whole worls around writhes in panic
Mar 28 17:25:20 <taub>	let me take a peak at otc
Mar 28 17:25:22 <jurov>	but the btcquick ipo sharpshooting paid handsomely :p
Mar 28 17:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.18746445 = 187.4645 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:25:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.20921206 = 209.2121 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:25:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.23095968 = 230.9597 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:26:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 695 @ 0.25270729 = 175.6316 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 700 @ 0.27445491 = 192.1184 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:26:24 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 28 17:26:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 81.00000, Best ask: 82.95000, Bid-ask spread: 1.95000, Last trade: 82.00000, 24 hour volume: 86859.06297305, 24 hour low: 82.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.77563
Mar 28 17:26:33 <kakobrekla>	2$ spread
Mar 28 17:27:49 <Cylta>	mp are you able in technical meaning to start rally or panic sell?
Mar 28 17:28:51 <smickles>	Namworld: you could buy the N puts
Mar 28 17:29:02 <smickles>	they will be the T puts soon
Mar 28 17:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.40999999 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.41 = 1.23 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:29:10 <jurov>	;;vwap ^oix
Mar 28 17:29:11 <gribble>	Error: "vwap" is not a valid command.
Mar 28 17:29:16 <jurov>	!vwap ^oix
Mar 28 17:29:24 <smickles>	or, wait. how will the name conversion affect that?
Mar 28 17:29:27 <smickles>	$
Mar 28 17:29:33 <smickles>	$vwap oi
Mar 28 17:29:34 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 86.19880169 high: 86.20830418 low: 66.22384528 volume: 97867 btc: 18859.8396038 30 day: no data
Mar 28 17:29:45 <Namworld>	smickles: too expensive
Mar 28 17:29:46 <Cylta>	for example by big sell on mtgox, or serie of small sells, or by changing ratio of amount of options on mpex...
Mar 28 17:30:31 <jurov>	or by postponing to list calls struck above 75, you mean?
Mar 28 17:30:36 <jurov>	lol
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Mar 28 17:31:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1076 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:31:39 <bowjob>	I feel the knife, it hurts
Mar 28 17:31:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00066576 = 1.964 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:32:09 <Namworld>	it's recovering
Mar 28 17:32:10 <jurov>	btw, i could really use a cheatsheet for the bots on -assets website
Mar 28 17:32:12 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 17:32:13 <gribble>	480.88988 seconds
Mar 28 17:32:49 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Mar 28 17:32:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.00000, Best ask: 82.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 80.00000, 24 hour volume: 86859.06297305, 24 hour low: 82.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.77563
Mar 28 17:32:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:33:10 <jurov>	you jinxed it
Mar 28 17:33:11 <smickles>	bitcoinity showing 29
Mar 28 17:33:14 <smickles>	er
Mar 28 17:33:16 <smickles>	79
Mar 28 17:33:17 <Namworld>	I JINXED IT!
Mar 28 17:33:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:33:23 <ThickAsThieves>	82 now
Mar 28 17:33:26 <ThickAsThieves>	its wild
Mar 28 17:33:43 <Bugpowder_>	bounce at 65
Mar 28 17:33:45 <Namworld>	fuck this... we're going to 1 USD/BTC!
Mar 28 17:34:14 <jurov>	lol...only if satoshi's selling
Mar 28 17:34:26 <smickles>	or hal
Mar 28 17:34:34 <jurov>	upon seeing devteam's recent endeavors
Mar 28 17:34:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 28 17:35:30 <smickles>	this is going to be one heluva beer run
Mar 28 17:35:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.13883755 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:36:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 67 @ 0.74 = 49.58 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:36:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:36:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 999 @ 0.18391246 = 183.7285 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:36:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.12032302 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 17:36:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 979 @ 0.2057548 = 201.4339 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:36:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.22759713 = 227.5971 BTC [-]
Mar 28 17:36:59 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 17:37:04 <gribble>	90.34
Mar 28 17:37:18 <smickles>	;;calc 71/(1-.22)
Mar 28 17:37:18 <gribble>	91.0256410256
Mar 28 17:37:25 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what happenes if MPOEBOT writes a contract
Mar 28 17:37:27 <ThickAsThieves>	dude someone is buying massive amounts of AM shares on BitFunder
Mar 28 17:37:29 <thestringpuller>	then buys that same contract back
Mar 28 17:37:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.749 = 2.996 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:37:39 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller nothing
Mar 28 17:37:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.749 = 1.498 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 17:38:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.749 = 5.992 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:38:59 <Biteesak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 17:38:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.51110, Best ask: 79.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.48890, Last trade: 79.00000, 24 hour volume: 86859.06297305, 24 hour low: 82.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.77563
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Mar 28 17:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 2 @ 0.66444382 = 1.3289 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 17:42:26 <jurov>	lol good i bought my calls like month ago
Mar 28 17:42:34 <jurov>	C310s not affected.
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Mar 28 17:43:36 <Biteesak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 17:43:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 79.00010, Best ask: 79.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89990, Last trade: 79.90000, 24 hour volume: 86859.06297305, 24 hour low: 82.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.77563
Mar 28 17:43:38 <damientrog>	ha, I just bought gold at 96,143$ / BTC
Mar 28 17:44:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: but what if it buys the contract back for more and then the exercise amount goes up?
Mar 28 17:44:56 <thestringpuller>	the bot can't exercise against itself so nothing happens?
Mar 28 17:45:17 <mircea_popescu>	exercise is not directed lol.
Mar 28 17:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	it's unclear to me what you're trying to find out.
Mar 28 17:45:36 <jborkl>	the bot buys back the call and closes the position
Mar 28 17:46:03 <pgp>	oh boy...
Mar 28 17:46:08 <Namworld>	actually what WOULD happen (which it won't) is the option would be executed at a profit, but money taken from the collateral.
Mar 28 17:46:17 <Namworld>	So it's a null event
Mar 28 17:46:31 <Namworld>	It's pretty pointless...
Mar 28 17:46:46 <thestringpuller>	I'm not trying to find out anything just asking business logic questions...
Mar 28 17:46:48 <smickles>	;;market --buy 1000
Mar 28 17:46:51 <gribble>	A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 78000.0000 USD and would take the last price up to 78.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 78.0000 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0002 seconds
Mar 28 17:47:10 <Bowjob_>	;;ticker
Mar 28 17:47:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.76413, Best ask: 78.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23587, Last trade: 78.00000, 24 hour volume: 86859.06297305, 24 hour low: 82.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.77563
Mar 28 17:47:24 <jborkl>	there are a flood of calls being sold back to the bot at a profit, so a excess supply would drive price down
Mar 28 17:47:26 <Bowjob_>	All right, I got some free soup. I can sell at 89 per BTC
Mar 28 17:47:28 <pgp>	4000 offered at 78....
Mar 28 17:47:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 75
Mar 28 17:47:54 <gribble>	There are currently 10389.23 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 787700.842721 USD in total. | Data vintage: 61.7392 seconds
Mar 28 17:48:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.12938115 BTC [+]
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Mar 28 17:48:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.749 = 2.247 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:48:36 <Namworld>	There's lots of bids...
Mar 28 17:48:42 <Namworld>	We'll hit a wall pretty soon...
Mar 28 17:48:45 <Bowjob_>	bits at what price
Mar 28 17:48:47 <KRS1>	how long do these freezes last
Mar 28 17:49:08 <smickles>	;;market --sell 10000
Mar 28 17:49:12 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 757756.5473 USD and would take the last price down to 75.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 75.7757 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0006 seconds
Mar 28 17:49:14 <Bowjob_>	;;ticker
Mar 28 17:49:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.50000, Best ask: 78.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 77.50000, 24 hour volume: 86859.06297305, 24 hour low: 82.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.77563
Mar 28 17:49:23 <smickles>	KRS1: freezes?
Mar 28 17:49:49 <KRS1>	ya the quote on mtgox hasnt changed in 10-15 min i think
Mar 28 17:49:58 <KRS1>	last price
Mar 28 17:50:06 <smickles>	oh, it depends on how many orders are put to gox
Mar 28 17:50:14 <pgp>	coin trading at 92 on bitfloor...  totally disconnected markets....
Mar 28 17:50:17 <smickles>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 17:50:18 <gribble>	461.095126 seconds
Mar 28 17:50:33 <KRS1>	so they freeze it to stabilize the price i assume
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Mar 28 17:50:42 <smickles>	KRS1: nope
Mar 28 17:50:53 <smickles>	they just have a trading engine which can't keep up
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Mar 28 17:51:11 <Bowjob_>	;;ticker
Mar 28 17:51:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.70000, Best ask: 77.98870, Bid-ask spread: 0.28870, Last trade: 77.70000, 24 hour volume: 86859.06297305, 24 hour low: 82.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.77563
Mar 28 17:51:36 <Namworld>	the freeze probably exacerbate the sellout/jumps in
Mar 28 17:51:40 <KRS1>	oh i see..damn..not sure what to think about that then..would think the price would stabilize from wild swings or something with the timeout. good guess but wrong eh
Mar 28 17:51:50 <KRS1>	great..
Mar 28 17:51:52 <Namworld>	because people can't see the price and panic buy/sell
Mar 28 17:52:28 <KRS1>	thats a good thing i guess
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Mar 28 17:52:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.05255101 = 52.551 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:53:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.75 = 16.5 BTC [+]
Mar 28 17:53:14 <KRS1>	been using btc for two years now at least and didnt realize just how much i didnt know til i started looking more into this and talking to you fine folks
Mar 28 17:53:16 <taub>	its going deeper than I thought it would
Mar 28 17:53:26 <Namworld>	Buying puts now? Stupid idea
Mar 28 17:53:48 <KRS1>	options..
Mar 28 17:53:52 <smickles>	how fast can the 24h-all-market-vwap move?
Mar 28 17:53:57 <jurov>	let them buy puts. mpbor prolly needs some healing
Mar 28 17:54:04 <Namworld>	eh, true
Mar 28 17:54:23 <Namworld>	But if they're going to waste money, better give it to me instead =/
Mar 28 17:54:37 <Guest14382>	is it really a waste ;)
Mar 28 17:55:03 <Namworld>	Average is high enough that one could wait much longer and buy those puts at the same price
Mar 28 17:55:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Mar 28 17:55:17 <Namworld>	plus average moves too slowly, we'd have to see a further massive drop
Mar 28 17:55:21 <Guest14382>	Namworld:
Mar 28 17:55:25 <Guest14382>	u r wrong
Mar 28 17:55:28 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 44 seconds
Mar 28 17:55:29 <Guest14382>	bot goes offline in 1 hour
Mar 28 17:55:30 <ThickAsThieves>	:(
Mar 28 17:55:42 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 17:55:44 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
Mar 28 17:55:54 <Bowjob_>	Lol, I sold at 89
Mar 28 17:55:57 <pgp>	4000 showed up for sale on bitfinex
Mar 28 17:56:05 <smickles>	well, not offline, just stops selling/buying *T
Mar 28 17:56:14 <Namworld>	lucky you, Bowjob
Mar 28 17:56:35 <Cylta>	bowhob nice...
Mar 28 17:56:38 *	kakobrekla did it at 95
Mar 28 17:57:02 *	Cylta did it at above 100 locally
Mar 28 17:57:04 <Bowjob_>	I will sell at least 100 worth for 89
Mar 28 17:57:18 <KRS1>	any way to get any mtgox data right now
Mar 28 17:57:19 <damientrog>	sold at 96,143 for  1/4 kg gold :)
Mar 28 17:57:57 <Namworld>	A quarter kilo of gold... neat
Mar 28 17:58:02 <smickles>	http://imgur.com/DjLAsir << lol
Mar 28 17:58:19 <pgp>	half way to my target price
Mar 28 17:58:41 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld : the vwap can move very suddenly.
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Mar 28 17:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	if there's say 50k btc dumped right now at an avg of 60 the vwap would drop to like 70 on the next tick
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Mar 28 17:59:32 <Biteesak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 17:59:46 <Cylta>	damientrog you should make/buy that old-fashion bag for gold coins now :-)
Mar 28 17:59:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.25000, Best ask: 77.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 77.00000, 24 hour volume: 86859.06297305, 24 hour low: 82.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.77563
Mar 28 17:59:53 <Bowjob_>	I feel bad for topace
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Mar 28 18:00:51 <thestringpuller>	mpoe bot wins again...
Mar 28 18:00:56 <thestringpuller>	:D
Mar 28 18:00:57 <Bowjob_>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:01:06 <Bowjob_>	This selloff, man
Mar 28 18:01:27 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 28 18:01:51 <pizzaman1337>	we were so close to 100...
Mar 28 18:02:07 <thestringpuller>	oh boo hoo
Mar 28 18:02:09 <thestringpuller>	keep crying
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Mar 28 18:02:45 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/316/bitcoin-to-trade-at-100-usd-by-the/
Mar 28 18:02:50 <taub>	502 Bad Gateway
Mar 28 18:02:50 <kakobrekla>	easy money now
Mar 28 18:02:51 <pizzaman1337>	I'll just buy more
Mar 28 18:02:51 <taub>	:>
Mar 28 18:02:52 <Namworld>	mircea: yeah, but it by the time vwap change, you'd have time to adjust position
Mar 28 18:03:04 <Namworld>	Assuming you're watching the price
Mar 28 18:03:07 <Bowjob_>	All right, I've won the BTC game
Mar 28 18:03:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00876 BTC [-]
Mar 28 18:03:19 <Bowjob_>	Made my capital back and then some, still 100+ BTC. and then ASIC
Mar 28 18:03:22 <Bowjob_>	Im not worried.
Mar 28 18:03:23 <Bowjob_>	wew
Mar 28 18:03:44 <taub>	wish i wasnt so tired,m ight as well just go to back
Mar 28 18:03:53 <taub>	bed, and when i wake up its at 92 again
Mar 28 18:03:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00875 BTC [-]
Mar 28 18:03:56 <taub>	and time to short the second time
Mar 28 18:04:04 <jurov>	http://bitbet.us/bet/334/bitcoin-crashes-to-below-10-usd-before-sept/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc
Mar 28 18:04:21 <Namworld>	taub, I have something to sleep soundly
Mar 28 18:04:26 <jurov>	^^ higher weight
Mar 28 18:04:31 <thestringpuller>	http://bitbet.us/bet/334/bitcoin-crashes-to-below-10-usd-before-sept/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc
Mar 28 18:04:39 <taub>	everything to 60 is just a 30% retracement
Mar 28 18:04:43 <taub>	nothing that unusual
Mar 28 18:04:47 <taub>	be worried when it breaks 50
Mar 28 18:04:48 <taub>	:/
Mar 28 18:04:56 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld depends. it can happen in one tick.
Mar 28 18:05:05 <Namworld>	yeah, I suppose
Mar 28 18:05:14 <mircea_popescu>	it's not likely obviously
Mar 28 18:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	but with btc... you never know.
Mar 28 18:05:25 <pgp>	yes...  60 is support
Mar 28 18:07:11 <Guest14382>	65 is support
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Mar 28 18:07:46 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 18:07:53 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Mar 28 18:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny tho, crash happened just after i finally claimed my 50mn mkt cap trophy
Mar 28 18:08:28 <Cylta>	mircea_popescu are you technically able to start rally/panic sell?
Mar 28 18:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	so i guess ty markets
Mar 28 18:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta what's that mean ?
Mar 28 18:08:46 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:08:52 <pgp>	mp - you jumped the shark
Mar 28 18:08:56 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 28 18:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	yeh, old news nao.
Mar 28 18:09:06 <Cylta>	for example can you do crash like this at any time you want?
Mar 28 18:09:16 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno
Mar 28 18:09:23 <pgp>	gribble down?
Mar 28 18:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	howwould i know ?
Mar 28 18:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	pgp prolly mtgox.
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Mar 28 18:10:27 <pgp>	oops....   they might having a real problem right now...
Mar 28 18:10:37 <jurov>	Cylta, mtgox won't be crashed "technically". instead some clever folks will feed it few indigestible orders
Mar 28 18:10:46 <jurov>	if that isn't happening already
Mar 28 18:10:57 <benkay>	whaddaya mean by "indigestible orders"?
Mar 28 18:11:27 <jurov>	i remember mtgox engine discussed somewhere
Mar 28 18:11:42 <jurov>	generally it's assumed it is very inefficient
Mar 28 18:12:03 <thestringpuller>	$vwap s.mpoe
Mar 28 18:12:04 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00061457 high: 0.00066576 low: 0.0006 volume: 138646 btc: 85.20714111 7 day: average: 0.00066397 high: 0.00072379 low: 0.0006 volume: 1717494 btc: 1140.36576603 30 day: average: 0.00073513 high: 0.00078628 low: 0.0006 volume: 16803773 btc: 12352.973398
Mar 28 18:12:15 <Bowjob_>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:12:19 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Mar 28 18:12:21 <thestringpuller>	$bids s.mpoe
Mar 28 18:13:04 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what is command for depth
Mar 28 18:13:06 <thestringpuller>	oh depth
Mar 28 18:13:09 <thestringpuller>	$depth s.mpoe
Mar 28 18:13:11 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['27400 @ 0.00064468', '9650 @ 0.00063483', '5172 @ 0.00060001', '1000 @ 0.00060001', '97155 @ 0.0006']
Mar 28 18:13:12 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: Asks: ['5000 @ 0.00067292', '5000 @ 0.00068292', '1300 @ 0.00068293', '5000 @ 0.00068294', '5000 @ 0.00069537']
Mar 28 18:13:14 <ThickAsThieves>	gox down
Mar 28 18:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Mar 28 18:13:38 <error4733>	srsly ?
Mar 28 18:13:42 <pgp>	down hard, methinks...
Mar 28 18:13:50 <thestringpuller>	no it's up
Mar 28 18:13:55 <thestringpuller>	I can still trade
Mar 28 18:14:14 <thestringpuller>	I don't think it's quoting to charts
Mar 28 18:14:20 <ThickAsThieves>	ok its up now
Mar 28 18:14:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:14:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.51340, Best ask: 78.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.48660, Last trade: 76.51340, 24 hour volume: 111005.53495385, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.94464
Mar 28 18:14:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 18:14:32 <gribble>	18.294714 seconds
Mar 28 18:14:39 <ThickAsThieves>	just need a reboot
Mar 28 18:14:45 <pgp>	there it goes
Mar 28 18:14:59 <benkay>	hey fam, when I send a tx with a confirmation fee, that confirmation fee does *not* come out of the amount sent to the recipient, right?
Mar 28 18:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 28 18:15:17 <thestringpuller>	benkay: that is correct
Mar 28 18:15:22 <ThickAsThieves>	some services do
Mar 28 18:15:37 <benkay>	which ones, TaT?
Mar 28 18:15:41 <ThickAsThieves>	btc-e
Mar 28 18:15:45 <ThickAsThieves>	i think another
Mar 28 18:15:50 <taub>	do the dance
Mar 28 18:15:55 <taub>	its getting jiggly
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Mar 28 18:16:33 <jurov>	can't find it now. basically it was something about mtgox picking top order and doing select for matching orders in a loop
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Mar 28 18:16:50 <jurov>	so if there's many it seizes up
Mar 28 18:17:23 <ThickAsThieves>	lately, sometimes i see the top ask is a lower price than the next ask on clarkmoody sometimes
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Mar 28 18:17:30 <ThickAsThieves>	sometimes sometimes
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Mar 28 18:19:43 <Namworld>	I'm seeing a trend...
Mar 28 18:20:17 <Namworld>	Last time we were trying to break 75, flash crash to almost 50. Now we try to break 100, flash crash to almost 75. Now starting to go back up again...
Mar 28 18:20:43 <Namworld>	This... market... is...
Mar 28 18:20:55 <Namworld>	...
Mar 28 18:20:57 <Guest14382>	come on TANK
Mar 28 18:21:06 <ThickAsThieves>	it's like ltc prices
Mar 28 18:21:10 <Namworld>	It refuses to
Mar 28 18:21:13 <ThickAsThieves>	follow the wave
Mar 28 18:21:16 <jurov>	lol we need to cool the market: http://engineering.stanford.edu/news/new-type-solar-structure-cools-buildings-full-sunlight
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Mar 28 18:22:01 <ThickAsThieves>	neat
Mar 28 18:22:06 <KRS1>	namworld i noticed that too not sure wha tto make of it though
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Mar 28 18:22:52 <Bitesaak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:22:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.50000, Best ask: 78.58238, Bid-ask spread: 0.08238, Last trade: 78.58238, 24 hour volume: 111005.53495385, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.94464
Mar 28 18:23:35 <KRS1>	could it just be a lot of volume today..i noticed on gox for instance the volume has been high today looking back at a 1 week chart
Mar 28 18:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> can't find it now. basically it was something about mtgox picking top order and doing select for matching orders in a loop << WHAT
Mar 28 18:24:30 <KRS1>	yesterday had some action..
Mar 28 18:24:43 <KRS1>	uh that doesnt sound good lol
Mar 28 18:25:04 <KRS1>	sounds like we'd have some rewinding to do
Mar 28 18:25:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064468 = 3.2234 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 18:27:49 <taub>	Guest14382> come on TANK
Mar 28 18:27:52 <taub>	you're late bro
Mar 28 18:28:04 <taub>	im going to bed, its just gonna crawl up to 92
Mar 28 18:28:12 <KRS1>	thats reassuring
Mar 28 18:28:12 <taub>	again :>
Mar 28 18:28:43 <taub>	dont hold me to it
Mar 28 18:29:16 <KRS1>	nite
Mar 28 18:29:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00066676 = 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:32:50 <Bitesaak>	;;lag
Mar 28 18:32:51 <gribble>	Error: "lag" is not a valid command.
Mar 28 18:33:11 <Guest14382>	ok maybe the puts were a bad idea
Mar 28 18:33:16 <Cylta>	use ,,goxlag
Mar 28 18:33:18 <Guest14382>	at least I only got 1000
Mar 28 18:33:22 <Bitesaak>	Thx
Mar 28 18:33:32 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:33:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.00000, Best ask: 84.62000, Bid-ask spread: 2.62000, Last trade: 84.62000, 24 hour volume: 111005.53495385, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.94464
Mar 28 18:33:38 <Bitesaak>	,,use goxlag
Mar 28 18:33:45 <ThickAsThieves>	of course the puts were a bad idea
Mar 28 18:33:51 <Bitesaak>	,,goxlag
Mar 28 18:34:02 <Bitesaak>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 18:34:03 <gribble>	288.72481 seconds
Mar 28 18:34:09 <ThickAsThieves>	oh geez
Mar 28 18:34:10 <Guest14382>	there could be a second wave
Mar 28 18:34:16 <Guest14382>	10% chance
Mar 28 18:34:18 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Mar 28 18:34:29 <Guest14382>	of a second wave
Mar 28 18:34:30 <Guest14382>	maybe 40% chance
Mar 28 18:34:35 <Guest14382>	10% chance of puts being profitable
Mar 28 18:34:50 <Namworld>	I hope someone is happy with his 50 BTC of worthless PUTs =/
Mar 28 18:34:57 <Namworld>	I know it can hurt >.>
Mar 28 18:35:03 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 18:35:10 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
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Mar 28 18:35:40 <Cylta>	where did you buy puts, people?
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Mar 28 18:35:55 <Namworld>	MPEx
Mar 28 18:36:01 <XRPTrader2>	time to buy
Mar 28 18:36:16 <thestringpuller>	time to sell
Mar 28 18:36:34 <taub>	time to laugh
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Mar 28 18:36:57 <KRS1>	time to cry
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Mar 28 18:37:13 <ThickAsThieves>	time to laugh
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Mar 28 18:38:09 <Lyspooner>	tough month for the bot?
Mar 28 18:38:31 <Lyspooner>	the mpoe bot, that is
Mar 28 18:38:39 <Namworld>	time to kill
Mar 28 18:38:52 <Cylta>	what if mp can play agaist his options, to correct price of market to not to pay too much?..
Mar 28 18:38:55 <damientrog>	time to go to bed, seems to be recovering
Mar 28 18:39:02 *	Namworld turns in a monster and starts devouring Bitcoiners
Mar 28 18:39:21 <Namworld>	No more buyers, Nam wants cheaper coins!
Mar 28 18:39:28 <Bitesaak>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 18:39:29 <gribble>	163.980752 seconds
Mar 28 18:39:42 <Namworld>	Seriously... MtGox...
Mar 28 18:39:47 <Namworld>	Go hide your shame...
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Mar 28 18:40:07 <Namworld>	Your incompetence is naked
Mar 28 18:40:11 <Bitesaak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:40:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.00000, Best ask: 88.72000, Bid-ask spread: 2.72000, Last trade: 88.72000, 24 hour volume: 111005.53495385, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.94464
Mar 28 18:40:17 <Namworld>	I can see too much of it.
Mar 28 18:40:36 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 18:40:37 <gribble>	167.450794 seconds
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Mar 28 18:40:52 <Namworld>	lol... check the last blocks
Mar 28 18:40:55 <Bowjob>	125add80f475024677b82ce00d26415c7195cb2be27e6522b161a3e64fac8081
Mar 28 18:41:02 <Bowjob>	How come I cant see this on the tx chain
Mar 28 18:41:06 <Namworld>	people rushing 10ks of BTC, probably to exchanges
Mar 28 18:41:47 <Namworld>	Bowjob: I'm having the same problem. I sent a transaction but I don't see it on blockchain.info
Mar 28 18:42:02 <Bowjob>	I feel slighlty liberated
Mar 28 18:42:04 <Bowjob>	I won.
Mar 28 18:42:05 <Bowjob>	lol
Mar 28 18:42:08 <Bowjob>	yeah
Mar 28 18:42:11 <Bowjob>	but wtf is this shit
Mar 28 18:42:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 53 @ 0.75 = 39.75 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:43:37 <Bitesaak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:43:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.00000, Best ask: 89.50000, Bid-ask spread: 2.50000, Last trade: 89.50000, 24 hour volume: 111005.53495385, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.94464
Mar 28 18:43:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.75 = 37.5 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:43:57 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 18:43:58 <gribble>	305.796827 seconds
Mar 28 18:44:01 <Bowjob>	oh god
Mar 28 18:44:05 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:44:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.50000, Best ask: 89.50000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 89.50000, 24 hour volume: 111005.53495385, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.94464
Mar 28 18:44:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.75 = 4.5 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:44:13 <Namworld>	89.5 best ask
Mar 28 18:44:20 <Namworld>	We're back up in a flash
Mar 28 18:45:03 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 18:45:04 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
Mar 28 18:45:04 <Namworld>	urgh
Mar 28 18:45:07 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:45:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.00000, Best ask: 89.50000, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 87.50000, 24 hour volume: 111005.53495385, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.94464
Mar 28 18:45:12 <Bowjob>	not bad
Mar 28 18:46:09 <Bitesaak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:46:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.00000, Best ask: 89.50000, Bid-ask spread: 2.50000, Last trade: 87.00000, 24 hour volume: 111005.53495385, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.94464
Mar 28 18:47:03 <Bitesaak>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 18:47:05 <gribble>	408.410853 seconds
Mar 28 18:47:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 61 @ 0.75 = 45.75 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:47:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:47:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.799 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:47:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.7995 = 11.9925 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:47:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7997 = 1.5994 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:47:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7998 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:47:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7999 = 2.3997 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:47:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 0.8 = 18.4 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:47:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:47:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:48:15 <KRS1>	good grief
Mar 28 18:48:30 <thestringpuller>	gonna be good month
Mar 28 18:48:38 <thestringpuller>	happy april to all the lucky winners
Mar 28 18:49:04 <ThickAsThieves>	winners of?
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Mar 28 18:49:45 <Bitesaak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:49:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.51100, Best ask: 89.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.48900, Last trade: 89.00000, 24 hour volume: 111005.53495385, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.94464
Mar 28 18:50:21 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
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Mar 28 18:50:28 <gribble>	Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
Mar 28 18:50:38 <thestringpuller>	its down
Mar 28 18:50:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8185 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:50:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.81885 = 2.4566 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:50:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.818899 = 2.4567 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:51:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.81999 = 8.1999 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:51:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.82897 = 8.2897 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:51:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8393 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:51:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.83945 = 2.5184 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:51:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.84 = 1.68 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:51:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 158 @ 0.84 = 132.72 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:51:37 <ThickAsThieves>	well that AM bargain price was short-lived
Mar 28 18:51:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:52:24 <ThickAsThieves>	lowest ask is .87 on BF
Mar 28 18:52:40 <ThickAsThieves>	.84 on BCTC
Mar 28 18:53:38 <smickles>	$vwap ^
Mar 28 18:53:40 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 86.3571781 high: 86.36645422 low: 66.22384528 volume: 100848 btc: 19472.9877722 30 day: no data
Mar 28 18:54:08 <Bitesaak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 18:54:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.50000, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 111005.53495385, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.94464
Mar 28 18:55:18 <Lyspooner>	bitcointalk forum new record set
Mar 28 18:55:27 <Lyspooner>	bitcointalk reddit new record set
Mar 28 18:55:52 <jborkl_>	for most retards in one place?
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Mar 28 18:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner what records are those ?
Mar 28 18:57:26 <Lyspooner>	apparently it's the most retards in one place
Mar 28 18:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 28 18:58:00 <Lyspooner>	most online at one time
Mar 28 18:58:14 <Lyspooner>	the forum record hadn't been broken since 2011
Mar 28 18:58:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 32 @ 0.84 = 26.88 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:58:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.85 = 8.5 BTC [+]
Mar 28 18:58:25 <Lyspooner>	the reddit one is being broken every day
Mar 28 18:58:33 <mircea_popescu>	this is bitcoin's endless september moment.
Mar 28 18:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	we will rue the day.
Mar 28 18:59:00 <Lyspooner>	it feels like more stupid people are hearing about bitcoin all the time
Mar 28 18:59:33 <Bitesaak>	Compassion is in order
Mar 28 18:59:41 <Lyspooner>	of course
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Mar 28 18:59:57 <Lyspooner>	but right now i see lots of "how does it work?"  "it goes up"
Mar 28 19:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.15872391 = 158.7239 BTC [+]
Mar 28 19:00:06 <Lyspooner>	"now i understand it"
Mar 28 19:00:13 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: 'endless march' has a nice ring to it
Mar 28 19:00:15 <mircea_popescu>	perfect.
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Mar 28 19:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	quick, to the bitbillions!
Mar 28 19:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.88 = 3.76 BTC [+]
Mar 28 19:01:16 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: ask mtgox nicely to give the secret price adjustment knob a quarter-turn up, and the idiots will go away again.
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Mar 28 19:01:59 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
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Mar 28 19:02:37 <Namworld>	Ah, I could finally pay out BTC-BOND and still have lots of BTC to trade.
Mar 28 19:02:46 <Lyspooner>	i'm jealous of all the people who can trust a new currency they never heard about without trying to understand a) how it kind of works and b) why it might be favorable to other currencies
Mar 28 19:03:00 <Namworld>	I'm needing BTC-BOND to have a large trading capital less and less.
Mar 28 19:03:32 <jurov>	endless chocolate: http://i.imgur.com/qjjlkGm.gif
Mar 28 19:03:52 <asciilifeform>	Lyspooner: are you also jealous of the people who happily send their life savings to Nigerian spammers? ignorance is bliss, and all that?
Mar 28 19:04:14 <Lyspooner>	well if they do it happily, that's great
Mar 28 19:04:37 <asciilifeform>	Lyspooner: "first ecstasy, then laundry."
Mar 28 19:04:41 <Namworld>	It's fake!
Mar 28 19:05:10 <jurov>	Namworld stop spoiling things!
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Mar 28 19:06:08 <taub>	Lyspooner> bitcointalk forum new record set
Mar 28 19:06:13 <Namworld>	lol at the expanding chocolate
Mar 28 19:06:18 <taub>	plot new users, topics and posts against price
Mar 28 19:06:23 <taub>	interesting results
Mar 28 19:06:26 <taub>	;)
Mar 28 19:06:59 <Bitesaak>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 19:07:00 <gribble>	0.21807 seconds
Mar 28 19:07:04 <taub>	it also peaked at $30
Mar 28 19:07:06 <Lyspooner>	taub, the last time bitcointalk set a new record, the bubble burst
Mar 28 19:07:12 <taub>	yep
Mar 28 19:07:22 <Bitesaak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 19:07:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.10002, Best ask: 86.48900, Bid-ask spread: 0.38898, Last trade: 86.10002, 24 hour volume: 127589.30954445, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.39577
Mar 28 19:07:46 <asciilifeform>	who wants to be the first to set up a trading bot that counts irc/www BTC chumps and adjusts trading strategy accordingly?
Mar 28 19:08:35 <jurov>	counting memegenerator links is simpler
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Mar 28 19:11:28 <Bowjob>	I can't find my tx on the block
Mar 28 19:11:29 <Bowjob>	WTF
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Mar 28 19:12:36 <Namworld>	Me neither
Mar 28 19:12:52 <Namworld>	It might just not have been relayed
Mar 28 19:13:03 <Namworld>	I got one that's there and another that's not showing up
Mar 28 19:13:58 <Bowjob>	nam. what happens to it then
Mar 28 19:14:00 <Bowjob>	is it gone?
Mar 28 19:14:30 <asciilifeform>	easy & fun explanation: mtgox is front-running trades.
Mar 28 19:14:42 <Namworld>	idk
Mar 28 19:14:53 <Namworld>	either it's not relayed yet
Mar 28 19:15:03 <Namworld>	or otherwise I don't know why
Mar 28 19:15:07 <asciilifeform>	They do What They Must, Because They Can (tm)
Mar 28 19:15:10 <Bowjob>	i sold some to topace
Mar 28 19:15:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 19:15:56 <gribble>	68.10059 seconds
Mar 28 19:16:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 28 19:16:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.79006, Best ask: 85.79668, Bid-ask spread: 0.00662, Last trade: 85.79668, 24 hour volume: 127719.97605760, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.39194
Mar 28 19:16:23 <asciilifeform>	bigger and better evil theory: a network of colluding BTC nodes is front-running trades.
Mar 28 19:17:12 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform dude. bitcoin people don't have the intellectual wherewithal to wipe their own nose.
Mar 28 19:17:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00064468 = 14.4408 BTC [-]
Mar 28 19:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	the devteam doesn't know which side is up sufficiently to test its own code.
Mar 28 19:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	the mtgox people are apparently running a select loop
Mar 28 19:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	miners have yet to figure out wtf hedging is and how it works, in spite of it being explaiend on trilema, diff futures being available etc.
Mar 28 19:18:00 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: most Americans can't tie their shoes. Doesn't stop the remaining ones from, well, buggering the planet raw.
Mar 28 19:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	but if cnat raed cnat raed.
Mar 28 19:18:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.839995 = 16.7999 BTC [-]
Mar 28 19:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	and you want me to believe anyone actually thinks ? get out for srsly.
Mar 28 19:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	we're not that lucky.
Mar 28 19:18:47 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: if you carry on with the assumption that you are the only thinking man in BTC, you will come to no good.
Mar 28 19:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	i wasn't counting myself either.
Mar 28 19:19:41 <Bowjob>	great. electum is down
Mar 28 19:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	if somebody is smart enough to implement evil colluding front trading,
Mar 28 19:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	they'd be making about 10x that by... i dunno... making an asic run.
Mar 28 19:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	one that's not run by retards who apparently can't get 20kw installed in one place or whatever the fuck.
Mar 28 19:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	seriously, there's so much free space for white hatness that you'd have to be quite insane to bother with darkhatness.
Mar 28 19:20:38 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: ASICs are boring because they're a straight competition of fiat bank accounts (with the possible exception of the sneak-an-SHA256-engine-on-a-commercial-die idea)
Mar 28 19:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Mar 28 19:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	we have  to come to a discussion of boring, because on the straight motivation factor this makes no sense.
Mar 28 19:21:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8778 BTC [+]
Mar 28 19:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	greed'd be better served by more useful applications atm.
Mar 28 19:21:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.8779 = 7.0232 BTC [+]
Mar 28 19:21:29 <Namworld>	those low calls have a breakeven point of like 2000 USD/BTC+
Mar 28 19:21:31 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: blackhatness is fun, because you can not just make money, but phuck people
Mar 28 19:21:54 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: esp. fun when you phuck the people who think they're unphuckable
Mar 28 19:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	who cares ?
Mar 28 19:22:32 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: right now, nobody. after the fact, everybody.
Mar 28 19:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno.
Mar 28 19:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	so some idiot thinks he's the bee's knees and you show him better.
Mar 28 19:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Mar 28 19:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	this is like people stumbling and landing on their face in public imagining "everyone saw". nope. nobody gave a shit.
Mar 28 19:23:31 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: it is far more interesting when a clever fellow thinks he is all that, and you show him better.
Mar 28 19:23:31 <jurov>	all in all, watching another feeble and desperate attempt by humanity to reinvent itself.
Mar 28 19:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
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Mar 28 19:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	i still don't see who'd care or why'd it matter. at all, like.
Mar 28 19:24:16 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: BTC is your playground, too. presumably you like to win rather than lose.
Mar 28 19:24:38 <mircea_popescu>	i honestly don't care.
Mar 28 19:24:55 <Bowjob>	Do we have technically minded people here?
Mar 28 19:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	probably difficult to digest, but i don't. i'm strictly interested in thinking things through and implementing them correctly.
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Mar 28 19:25:32 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: one day you'll cash out your 1 MegaBTC to buy Marscoins, to fly your harem to Mars and retire there...
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Mar 28 19:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform why ?
Mar 28 19:25:54 <Bitesaak>	;;ticker
Mar 28 19:25:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.20002, Best ask: 88.34000, Bid-ask spread: 0.13998, Last trade: 88.20002, 24 hour volume: 131782.34304095, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.35351
Mar 28 19:26:15 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: when you push "return", 1 BTC is worth 1 Marscoin. But before the transaction goes through, 1 Marscoin will be worth 1000 BTC. Because front-runners...
Mar 28 19:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	why am i retiring.
Mar 28 19:26:52 <asciilifeform>	ok strike that. but imagine you were to actually spend a large parcel of your coin on something - anything.
Mar 28 19:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	kay
Mar 28 19:27:36 <jurov>	Bowjob, kinda.
Mar 28 19:27:40 <asciilifeform>	a clever fellow could observe the parcel changing hands before the price on the exchange moves
Mar 28 19:27:41 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 19:27:42 <asciilifeform>	and so forth
Mar 28 19:27:43 <gribble>	87.53
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Mar 28 19:28:28 <lololol>	90
Mar 28 19:28:41 <asciilifeform>	(replace "exchange" with the ultimate destination of MP's 1 MegaBTC.)
Mar 28 19:28:46 <mircea_popescu>	why do i use an exchange ?
Mar 28 19:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	maybe i just otc.
Mar 28 19:28:59 <jurov>	asciilifeform: how? whales move in and out of 1Fx.... all the time
Mar 28 19:29:13 <Bowjob>	Namworld
Mar 28 19:29:20 <Bowjob>	I got the TX working
Mar 28 19:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	kinda cool that mpex's addy starts with 1Fx
Mar 28 19:29:44 <KRS1>	otc seems a better deal
Mar 28 19:29:44 <asciilifeform>	jurov: the whales move unmolested now, because nobody (AFAIK) is operating a massive "BTC telescope" for the purpose of front-running.
Mar 28 19:30:29 <asciilifeform>	if every time you carry out a transaction God transmitted it to every BTC user simultaneously, this scenario would not apply. But this isn't how the network works.
Mar 28 19:30:34 <Namworld>	my transaction just ain't confirming...
Mar 28 19:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld start adding a fee would you.
Mar 28 19:31:58 <jurov>	is there an api for # of unconfirmed txs anywhere?
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Mar 28 19:32:26 <Namworld>	I had a fee...
Mar 28 19:32:28 <jurov>	ironically, im certain the bitcoind on my machine knows that.. but getting the number out of it...
Mar 28 19:32:35 <Namworld>	Feeless transactions confirm faste >.>
Mar 28 19:32:38 <Namworld>	faster*
Mar 28 19:32:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol srsly ?!
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Mar 28 19:32:51 <mircea_popescu>	jurov iirc blockchain had it
Mar 28 19:32:57 <Namworld>	0.0001 on a large move (120 BTC)
Mar 28 19:33:32 <jurov>	0.0001 is too small as i found out myself yest
Mar 28 19:34:02 <Namworld>	eh
Mar 28 19:34:09 <Namworld>	Will get confirmed eventually
Mar 28 19:34:26 <Bowjob>	anyone here using electrum
Mar 28 19:34:28 <jurov>	yea, in mere 12 hours or so
Mar 28 19:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	i'm using 0.001
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Mar 28 19:35:50 <Namworld>	so like 9 cents
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Mar 28 19:36:05 <Namworld>	Well that's a lot cheaper than PayPal
Mar 28 19:37:11 <jurov>	The necessary fee on your tx is well predictable, if anyone minded to analyze the unconfirmed txs statistically
Mar 28 19:38:07 <jurov>	um... i hear someone asking about bachelor thesis?
Mar 28 19:38:48 <mircea_popescu>	who cares srsly ?
Mar 28 19:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	the day i save on a dime is the day i pack up the harem and retire on mars.
Mar 28 19:39:06 <Namworld>	I wonder what's up with ZIGGAP
Mar 28 19:39:33 <smickles>	jurov:
Mar 28 19:39:36 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Mar 28 19:39:39 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1255
Mar 28 19:40:06 <jurov>	O.o
Mar 28 19:40:25 <smickles>	srs
Mar 28 19:40:58 <smickles>	$mail
Mar 28 19:41:09 <smickles>	er,,
Mar 28 19:41:12 <smickles>	$email
Mar 28 19:41:13 <mpexbot>	smickles: No new messages received.
Mar 28 19:41:15 <smickles>	not srs
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Mar 28 19:41:43 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Mar 28 19:41:47 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1333
Mar 28 19:41:49 <smickles>	srs
Mar 28 19:42:18 <Namworld>	Yeah, my fees are based on what Armory suggests
Mar 28 19:42:24 <jurov>	$sandwich
Mar 28 19:42:30 <Namworld>	Sometimes it's 0.0001, sometimes it's 0.0005
Mar 28 19:43:09 <jurov>	so armory seems to account for that?
Mar 28 19:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	i just made it .001 and forgot about it
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Mar 28 19:43:55 <Namworld>	I think it's mostly based on amount of inputs... but yeah, kind of
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Mar 28 19:44:18 <Bowjob>	so its 29th
Mar 28 19:44:27 <Bowjob>	isnt it ian bakewell's moment of truth
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Mar 28 19:44:53 <Namworld>	yeah...
Mar 28 19:44:56 <Namworld>	poor ian
Mar 28 19:45:16 <Namworld>	He shorted at what price?
Mar 28 19:45:26 <Bowjob>	34.5
Mar 28 19:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	35
Mar 28 19:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 28 19:45:31 <Namworld>	Damn...
Mar 28 19:45:56 <Namworld>	So like 30k USD loss if he pays back
Mar 28 19:46:04 <Bowjob>	look at this buying power
Mar 28 19:46:06 <Bowjob>	amazing
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Mar 28 19:48:08 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 28 19:48:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.99999, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 136246.06886715, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.41623
Mar 28 19:48:22 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 92
Mar 28 19:48:25 <gribble>	There are currently 2084.7938 bitcoins offered at or under 92.0 USD, worth 188350.163298 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Mar 28 19:48:32 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 95
Mar 28 19:48:33 <gribble>	There are currently 8026.3054 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 746419.333104 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.7048 seconds
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Mar 28 19:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/03/26/minor-league-baseball-team-to-debut-urinal-video-games
Mar 28 19:50:14 <Bitdragon>	;;goxlag
Mar 28 19:50:16 <gribble>	0.328974 seconds
Mar 28 19:50:26 <Bitdragon>	;;ticker
Mar 28 19:50:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.50002, Best ask: 87.78000, Bid-ask spread: 0.27998, Last trade: 87.50001, 24 hour volume: 138377.72130273, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.42466
Mar 28 19:50:57 <Lyspooner>	;;asks 200
Mar 28 19:51:00 <gribble>	There are currently 45195.463 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 5025968.47558 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
Mar 28 19:51:32 <Bitdragon>	You're funny mp;
Mar 28 19:52:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14455 @ 0.0006357 = 9.189 BTC [-]
Mar 28 19:53:20 <benkay>	quite the crash this afternoon, eh gentlemen?
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Mar 28 19:53:35 <benkay>	</sarcasm>
Mar 28 19:54:25 <benkay>	retrace to seventy five and then flat back one day? two?
Mar 28 19:54:39 <benkay>	i should start keeping fiat on gox for these events
Mar 28 19:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 308 @ 0.15862914 = 48.8578 BTC [-]
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Mar 28 19:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
Mar 28 19:59:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.37000001 = 1.11 BTC [-]
Mar 28 19:59:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.37 = 1.48 BTC [-]
Mar 28 19:59:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.35500001 = 0.71 BTC [-]
Mar 28 20:03:26 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Mar 28 20:03:29 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1164
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Mar 28 20:07:42 <MJR_III>	sup everyone
Mar 28 20:07:47 <MJR_III>	fun ride huh?
Mar 28 20:07:53 <MJR_III>	fucking gox
Mar 28 20:09:58 <smickles>	heh, bitcoin is good for that every once in a while, gox just makes it worse
Mar 28 20:10:20 <benkay>	we might have a stable currency except for gox
Mar 28 20:10:49 <kakobrekla>	when gox is down bitcoin is stable
Mar 28 20:10:53 <kakobrekla>	didnt ya know
Mar 28 20:12:13 <KRS1>	heh yea fun
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Mar 28 20:16:24 <MJR_III>	so silly
Mar 28 20:16:33 <MJR_III>	what was the low?
Mar 28 20:16:35 <MJR_III>	77?
Mar 28 20:17:01 <MJR_III>	also...i don't think that the charts are keeping up
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Mar 28 20:18:15 <Bitdragon>	;;ticker
Mar 28 20:18:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 84.63439, Best ask: 84.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16561, Last trade: 84.80000, 24 hour volume: 144582.26393633, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.34194
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Mar 28 20:22:37 <Bitdragon>	;;ticker
Mar 28 20:22:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.20000, Best ask: 85.39000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 84.99989, 24 hour volume: 146197.46407703, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.31167
Mar 28 20:23:23 <Bitdragon>	;;ask 100
Mar 28 20:23:24 <gribble>	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
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Mar 28 20:32:49 <KRS1>	;;asks 100
Mar 28 20:32:52 <gribble>	There are currently 27577.248 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2628721.38478 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0246 seconds
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Mar 28 20:48:08 *	smickles just noticed that the last trade amount and price is in the title of mpex.co asset pages
Mar 28 20:49:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00485 = 0.0728 BTC [-]
Mar 28 20:49:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-]
Mar 28 20:49:38 <Ukto>	mpex has pages? :P *nudges Mircea*
Mar 28 20:50:04 <Ukto>	btw smickles: BF has topped 2,300 BTC 24hr vol :)
Mar 28 20:50:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.877895 = 17.5579 BTC [+]
Mar 28 20:51:09 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 28 20:51:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006 / 0.00062205 / 0.00066676 (168732 shares, 104.96 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.00066192 / 0.00072101 (1713863 shares, 1,134.45 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.00073488 / 0.00078628 (16836028 shares, 12,372.51 BTC)
Mar 28 20:51:22 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox has been losing market share
Mar 28 20:51:30 <tiberiusiv>	down to 61% usd
Mar 28 20:51:43 <tiberiusiv>	wouldnt surprise me if by the end of the year they arent even 50%
Mar 28 20:51:53 <kakobrekla>	good
Mar 28 20:52:02 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox is lame
Mar 28 20:52:17 <tiberiusiv>	does bitstamp and co require all those ridiculous ID verifications?
Mar 28 20:52:38 <kakobrekla>	stamp is lame too
Mar 28 20:52:49 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 28 20:52:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.50000, Best ask: 86.87137, Bid-ask spread: 0.37137, Last trade: 86.87137, 24 hour volume: 153284.13060894, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.23528
Mar 28 20:52:50 <tiberiusiv>	which one is better?
Mar 28 20:52:55 <tiberiusiv>	btc central?
Mar 28 20:53:00 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Mar 28 20:53:17 <tiberiusiv>	kako: why is stamp lame
Mar 28 20:53:50 <kakobrekla>	many reasons, dont have the time to get into that again
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Mar 28 20:54:13 <Bitdragon>	List of commands:
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Mar 28 20:55:02 <kakobrekla>	in short, they are slow, the steal via fees since ever, tiny amouts but still and is run by kids with css skills, also trading interface is fcuked, you need 3 or 4 tabs - have fun
Mar 28 20:55:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00066676 = 3.1338 BTC [+]
Mar 28 20:55:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067292 = 3.3646 BTC [+]
Mar 28 20:55:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00067438 = 0.843 BTC [+]
Mar 28 20:57:18 <Bitdragon>	Who are you are talking about?
Mar 28 20:58:08 <Bitdragon>	;;buy 100
Mar 28 20:58:09 <gribble>	(buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include (1 more message)
Mar 28 21:00:03 <benkay>	;;24hprc
Mar 28 21:00:04 <gribble>	Error: "24hprc" is not a valid command.
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Mar 28 21:00:11 <benkay>	;;24h,prc
Mar 28 21:00:11 <gribble>	Error: "24h,prc" is not a valid command.
Mar 28 21:00:22 <benkay>	;;24hrpc
Mar 28 21:00:23 <gribble>	Error: "24hrpc" is not a valid command.
Mar 28 21:00:24 <benkay>	OMG
Mar 28 21:00:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [-]
Mar 28 21:00:30 <tiberiusiv>	kakobrekla: thnx
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Mar 28 21:02:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.87968 = 8.7968 BTC [+]
Mar 28 21:04:57 <Bitdragon>	;;
Mar 28 21:05:12 <Bitdragon>	;;ticker
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Mar 28 21:25:58 <MJR_III>	well...say goodbye to another bunch of weak hands i guess
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Mar 28 21:40:32 <tiberiusiv>	if short selling was enabled the declines wouldnt be as sharp
Mar 28 21:41:48 <copumpkin>	the growth wouldn't be as extreme
Mar 28 21:41:51 <copumpkin>	and it's not as if it's "disabled"
Mar 28 21:41:56 <copumpkin>	it's just that it isn't very prevalent
Mar 28 21:42:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-]
Mar 28 21:44:19 <MJR_III>	yes...you can short right now
Mar 28 21:44:22 <MJR_III>	it is relatively easy
Mar 28 21:44:55 <MJR_III>	fucking bullshit though...minutes of lag
Mar 28 21:45:06 <MJR_III>	why don't we just mail our orders to gox
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Mar 28 21:46:59 <MJR_III>	also...bitfloor has not had these issues...they didn't have a huge dropoff and they have maintained the price...mt gox injects a ton of uncertainty into the market with their horrible matching engine
Mar 28 21:47:00 <tiberiusiv>	how can you short MJR?
Mar 28 21:47:06 <MJR_III>	go to bitfinex
Mar 28 21:47:20 <MJR_III>	all you need is to borrow bitcoins
Mar 28 21:47:21 <tiberiusiv>	yea but how many are using bitfinex?
Mar 28 21:47:24 <MJR_III>	and then you sell them
Mar 28 21:47:30 <copumpkin>	you short by finding someone to lend you coins
Mar 28 21:47:31 <MJR_III>	um...since they connect to gox
Mar 28 21:47:33 <tiberiusiv>	do you have to sell on bitfinex
Mar 28 21:47:36 <copumpkin>	it's not like shares that are much harder to borrow
Mar 28 21:47:46 <MJR_III>	bitfinex connects to gox
Mar 28 21:47:50 <tiberiusiv>	thats not bad then if they are gox connected
Mar 28 21:48:01 <MJR_III>	well...you have access to the liquidity
Mar 28 21:48:01 <tiberiusiv>	the shorting costs are too high
Mar 28 21:48:08 <tiberiusiv>	what they charge 12%?
Mar 28 21:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15909 @ 0.00066793 = 10.6261 BTC [-]
Mar 28 21:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1344 @ 0.00067438 = 0.9064 BTC [+]
Mar 28 21:48:14 <MJR_III>	APY
Mar 28 21:48:19 <MJR_III>	12% annually
Mar 28 21:48:22 <tiberiusiv>	yea thats way too steep for bitcoin
Mar 28 21:48:25 <MJR_III>	were you going to short for a year?
Mar 28 21:48:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.84 = 3.36 BTC [-]
Mar 28 21:48:34 <tiberiusiv>	it doesnt matter it adds up fast
Mar 28 21:48:37 <MJR_III>	hint: if you are shorting, you expect price to go down
Mar 28 21:48:45 <tiberiusiv>	be quiet.
Mar 28 21:48:58 <tiberiusiv>	12% interest on bitcoin is equivalent to 200-300%+ on US dollars
Mar 28 21:49:01 <MJR_III>	yeah...you are totally right tiberiusiv i can't make money selling at 97 and covering at 80
Mar 28 21:49:14 <MJR_III>	how do you figure?
Mar 28 21:49:20 <MJR_III>	12% is 12%
Mar 28 21:49:24 <tiberiusiv>	becuase when bitcoins rise in value
Mar 28 21:49:32 <tiberiusiv>	the real rate of interest also rises
Mar 28 21:49:37 <MJR_III>	oh...but if THEY RISE IN VALUE YOU ARE A dumbass to short
Mar 28 21:49:42 <MJR_III>	get it?
Mar 28 21:49:49 <MJR_III>	if I think they go up i get long
Mar 28 21:49:56 <MJR_III>	if i think they go down, i short
Mar 28 21:50:00 <tiberiusiv>	you need a shorting mechanism in place
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Mar 28 21:50:04 <MJR_III>	meaning you are paying LOWER rates of interest if you are right
Mar 28 21:50:07 <tiberiusiv>	to increase overall liquidity
Mar 28 21:50:13 <MJR_III>	and i just showed it to you
Mar 28 21:50:14 <tiberiusiv>	MJR you are confused.
Mar 28 21:50:21 <tiberiusiv>	12% to borrow BTC is extremely expensive
Mar 28 21:50:21 <MJR_III>	no
Mar 28 21:50:26 <MJR_III>	how do you figure?
Mar 28 21:50:35 <tiberiusiv>	its a deflationary currency with extremely limited supply
Mar 28 21:50:40 <MJR_III>	let me walk you through the scenario
Mar 28 21:50:47 <MJR_III>	;;calc 12/365
Mar 28 21:50:48 <gribble>	0.0328767123288
Mar 28 21:50:53 <tiberiusiv>	you dont know what you are talking about.
Mar 28 21:50:54 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: it's not currently deflationary
Mar 28 21:50:57 <MJR_III>	.03%
Mar 28 21:51:00 <copumpkin>	in the long run it is
Mar 28 21:51:05 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: yes it is lol
Mar 28 21:51:06 <MJR_III>	so i borrow 100 btc
Mar 28 21:51:11 <tiberiusiv>	going from 10-100
Mar 28 21:51:13 <tiberiusiv>	is DEFLATIONARY
Mar 28 21:51:17 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 21:51:18 <MJR_III>	i sell at 92
Mar 28 21:51:22 <copumpkin>	omg stocks are deflationary right now
Mar 28 21:51:23 <MJR_III>	i now have 9200
Mar 28 21:51:23 <tiberiusiv>	BTC rising in value = deflation.
Mar 28 21:51:33 <tiberiusiv>	prices drop relative to BTC
Mar 28 21:51:35 <MJR_III>	i owe 100 bitcoins
Mar 28 21:51:39 <tiberiusiv>	making it harder to service debt
Mar 28 21:51:47 <MJR_III>	it drops to 80
Mar 28 21:51:50 *	copumpkin sighs
Mar 28 21:51:51 <MJR_III>	i cover
Mar 28 21:51:54 <tiberiusiv>	MJR: the shorting cost is expensive.
Mar 28 21:51:56 <MJR_III>	i made 1200
Mar 28 21:52:00 <MJR_III>	let's examine that
Mar 28 21:52:03 <MJR_III>	100 btc
Mar 28 21:52:04 <MJR_III>	for one day
Mar 28 21:52:05 <tiberiusiv>	stop outlining hypothetical scenarios
Mar 28 21:52:06 <MJR_III>	costs
Mar 28 21:52:38 <MJR_III>	;;calc 100 * .0003
Mar 28 21:52:38 <gribble>	0.03
Mar 28 21:52:41 <MJR_III>	ah ok
Mar 28 21:52:49 <MJR_III>	it would cost me .03 bitcoins
Mar 28 21:52:53 <MJR_III>	which at 80
Mar 28 21:52:56 <MJR_III>	would be...
Mar 28 21:53:00 <tiberiusiv>	dude shutup.
Mar 28 21:53:05 <MJR_III>	;;calc 80 *.03
Mar 28 21:53:05 <gribble>	2.4
Mar 28 21:53:08 <MJR_III>	omg
Mar 28 21:53:11 <MJR_III>	$2
Mar 28 21:53:14 <Bugpowder>	looks like S.MPOE bounced
Mar 28 21:53:15 <tiberiusiv>	if someone deposits a huge ammount of BTC at 12%
Mar 28 21:53:21 <MJR_III>	i had to spend $2 in order to short
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Mar 28 21:53:25 <tiberiusiv>	its mathematically impossible to service the interest.
Mar 28 21:53:27 <MJR_III>	how could i ever make that back
Mar 28 21:53:33 <MJR_III>	IF IT GOES UP YOU IDIOT
Mar 28 21:53:37 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 21:53:42 <copumpkin>	this is an awesome conversation to watch
Mar 28 21:53:43 <tiberiusiv>	even if it doesnt change.
Mar 28 21:53:49 <MJR_III>	like i said
Mar 28 21:53:57 <MJR_III>	you have to pay 2 dollars in interest
Mar 28 21:53:58 <tiberiusiv>	12% is a HUGE premium on something like bitcoin
Mar 28 21:54:03 <MJR_III>	you made 1200 in my scenario
Mar 28 21:54:05 <tiberiusiv>	MJR be quiet.
Mar 28 21:54:07 <MJR_III>	seems reasonable
Mar 28 21:54:16 <tiberiusiv>	yea if your bet was right in 1hour
Mar 28 21:54:18 <MJR_III>	i don't think you understand how apy works
Mar 28 21:54:23 <tiberiusiv>	assume you are shorting BTC over a few weeks
Mar 28 21:54:25 <MJR_III>	you are paying a tiny tiny rate of interest
Mar 28 21:54:26 <tiberiusiv>	with no price movement
Mar 28 21:54:31 <MJR_III>	ugh
Mar 28 21:54:32 <tiberiusiv>	you are losing 0.03% every simgle day
Mar 28 21:54:39 <MJR_III>	and...
Mar 28 21:54:40 <tiberiusiv>	just in maintenence cost.
Mar 28 21:54:44 <MJR_III>	so
Mar 28 21:54:48 <tiberiusiv>	its ALOT.
Mar 28 21:54:49 <MJR_III>	if i expect it to stay where it is
Mar 28 21:54:52 <MJR_III>	i probably wouldn't short
Mar 28 21:54:54 <MJR_III>	duh
Mar 28 21:54:58 <tiberiusiv>	no you wouldnt know.
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Mar 28 21:55:05 <MJR_III>	i don't think you understand how speculation works
Mar 28 21:55:07 <tiberiusiv>	someone puts on a hedge
Mar 28 21:55:15 <copumpkin>	MJR_III: it takes a speculum, right?
Mar 28 21:55:20 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: hehehe
Mar 28 21:55:31 <MJR_III>	another epic troll by tiberiusiv
Mar 28 21:55:31 <tiberiusiv>	no you dont understand that in a limited run currency, high interest rates are *impossible* to service.
Mar 28 21:55:39 <MJR_III>	how is that
Mar 28 21:55:43 <MJR_III>	i managed to pay it
Mar 28 21:55:46 <MJR_III>	seemed possible
Mar 28 21:55:52 <MJR_III>	i shorted, made money
Mar 28 21:55:56 <tiberiusiv>	lets assume i borrowed 21 million bitcoins
Mar 28 21:55:56 <MJR_III>	then went long and rode it back up
Mar 28 21:55:59 <tiberiusiv>	@ 12%
Mar 28 21:56:03 <tiberiusiv>	how do i pay the interest?
Mar 28 21:56:03 <MJR_III>	you can't pay that back
Mar 28 21:56:05 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: how do you expect to short then, when risk for the lender is so high? should lending not exist at all?
Mar 28 21:56:10 <tiberiusiv>	if there isnt anymore coins.
Mar 28 21:56:21 <tiberiusiv>	thats how stupid.
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Mar 28 21:56:25 <MJR_III>	first off
Mar 28 21:56:36 <MJR_III>	there aren't 21 million bitcoins yet
Mar 28 21:56:40 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: that's an argument against any interest rate you pick
Mar 28 21:56:43 <copumpkin>	0.01%
Mar 28 21:56:45 <MJR_III>	so you are trying to borrow an impossible amount of money
Mar 28 21:56:45 <copumpkin>	IMPOSSIBLE TO SERVICE
Mar 28 21:56:52 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: the interest rate will have to float
Mar 28 21:57:01 <MJR_III>	lets say i want to borrow 100 quintillion dollars
Mar 28 21:57:05 <tiberiusiv>	meaning. if there is high bitcoins idling(savings)
Mar 28 21:57:10 <tiberiusiv>	borrowing rates will be low
Mar 28 21:57:10 <MJR_III>	how would i service that debt?
Mar 28 21:57:12 <copumpkin>	in other news, if you borrow all the money in the world, things might go strangely
Mar 28 21:57:17 <copumpkin>	news at 11
Mar 28 21:57:20 <MJR_III>	hehehe
Mar 28 21:57:25 <tiberiusiv>	MJR: because dollars are expanded through new loans
Mar 28 21:57:36 <MJR_III>	tiberiusiv: but only for principal
Mar 28 21:57:41 <MJR_III>	no money is created for interest
Mar 28 21:57:41 <tiberiusiv>	through credit inflation
Mar 28 21:57:44 <tiberiusiv>	you can always obtain dollars
Mar 28 21:57:48 <MJR_III>	P != P+I
Mar 28 21:57:58 <tiberiusiv>	in bitcoin its the opposite
Mar 28 21:58:03 <MJR_III>	this is fractional reserve lending 101
Mar 28 21:58:11 <tiberiusiv>	thats why bitcoin borrowing rates have to float based on available funds to lend.
Mar 28 21:58:13 <MJR_III>	you cannot always obtain dollars
Mar 28 21:58:21 <MJR_III>	there is RIGHT NOW
Mar 28 21:58:25 <MJR_III>	a limited number of dollars
Mar 28 21:58:27 <MJR_III>	AND
Mar 28 21:58:29 <tiberiusiv>	its on a FIXED
Mar 28 21:58:32 <tiberiusiv>	interest rate
Mar 28 21:58:36 <tiberiusiv>	which is not realistic
Mar 28 21:58:36 <MJR_III>	it is lower than the total amount owed
Mar 28 21:58:44 <tiberiusiv>	90% of BTC in circulation is idling around
Mar 28 21:58:46 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: where did you learn about this stuff, out of curiosity?
Mar 28 21:58:47 <MJR_III>	ok
Mar 28 21:58:57 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: where did he NOT learn about this?
Mar 28 21:59:00 <tiberiusiv>	meaning that if even a small % goes into bitfinex
Mar 28 21:59:07 <tiberiusiv>	rates have to go down
Mar 28 21:59:15 <tiberiusiv>	theres more supply then demand for the loan
Mar 28 21:59:23 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin shorting only works on floating interest rates
Mar 28 21:59:27 <MJR_III>	ok...but a lot of people don't seem to want to lend their bitcoins
Mar 28 21:59:27 <tiberiusiv>	not FIXED high ones
Mar 28 21:59:33 <MJR_III>	AND THE RATE FLOATS
Mar 28 21:59:41 <tiberiusiv>	bitfinex doesnt float
Mar 28 21:59:42 <MJR_III>	that is the markets desire for interest on btc
Mar 28 21:59:45 <tiberiusiv>	its been 12% from day 1
Mar 28 21:59:45 <MJR_III>	it does
Mar 28 22:00:03 <tiberiusiv>	whats the active short positions? vs people willing to lend at 12%
Mar 28 22:00:05 <MJR_III>	wrong
Mar 28 22:00:07 <MJR_III>	its not even 12
Mar 28 22:00:11 <tiberiusiv>	i bet theres 10x more people willing to lend @ 12%
Mar 28 22:00:15 <tiberiusiv>	then people who need coins
Mar 28 22:00:18 <MJR_III>	its currently at...9.5
Mar 28 22:00:27 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: you'd be surprised :)
Mar 28 22:00:29 <MJR_III>	go to the "lending" page
Mar 28 22:00:31 <tiberiusiv>	yes that has to come down to 1-2%
Mar 28 22:00:37 <copumpkin>	lending rates historically have been way higher in bitcoin
Mar 28 22:00:38 <tiberiusiv>	for major short selling to work
Mar 28 22:00:39 <MJR_III>	look at BTC Lending offers
Mar 28 22:00:49 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: thats why default rates in bitcoin are so high
Mar 28 22:00:49 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: and how do you propose that happen, as I asked before?
Mar 28 22:00:56 <copumpkin>	there's still large risk for the lender
Mar 28 22:01:10 <tiberiusiv>	almost all bitcoin loans go into default at some point
Mar 28 22:01:17 <MJR_III>	if you look at the site we are talking about...you will see that bitcoin lending and dollar lending is a market like any other
Mar 28 22:01:27 <MJR_III>	the current VARIABLE rate is 9.5%
Mar 28 22:01:30 <tiberiusiv>	yes i know that
Mar 28 22:01:41 <MJR_III>	ok...you said it is 12 and has always been 12
Mar 28 22:01:42 <tiberiusiv>	my point was for large short selling to take place
Mar 28 22:01:47 <tiberiusiv>	that rate has to go down to les then 1%
Mar 28 22:01:53 <MJR_III>	ok...i want to short all the aapl shares in the world
Mar 28 22:01:57 <tiberiusiv>	over time it will be close to 0%
Mar 28 22:01:59 <MJR_III>	there is a concept of hard to borrow
Mar 28 22:02:11 <tiberiusiv>	because the real rate of interest is still high
Mar 28 22:02:12 <MJR_III>	i need to "locate" the shares before i can sell short
Mar 28 22:02:25 <MJR_III>	i don't think you understand how the free market works
Mar 28 22:02:32 <tiberiusiv>	dude shutup.
Mar 28 22:02:35 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 22:02:38 <MJR_III>	you can lend coins for as much as you can get
Mar 28 22:02:40 <tiberiusiv>	high interest rates do not work in bitcoin.
Mar 28 22:02:45 <MJR_III>	right now...thats 9.5%
Mar 28 22:02:46 <copumpkin>	I HAVE DECREED
Mar 28 22:02:48 <tiberiusiv>	hence why theres been so many people defaulting
Mar 28 22:02:51 <copumpkin>	THEREFORE IT IS SO
Mar 28 22:02:56 <MJR_III>	no one has defaulted on bitfinex
Mar 28 22:02:59 <copumpkin>	I HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR WHY, SO THAT IS THE EXPLANATION
Mar 28 22:02:59 <MJR_III>	you CAN'T
Mar 28 22:03:11 <MJR_III>	do you understand what a margin call is?
Mar 28 22:03:12 <tiberiusiv>	whats the total loan book @ bitfinex
Mar 28 22:03:20 <tiberiusiv>	so far how many have borrowed
Mar 28 22:03:24 <MJR_III>	first, you can see it yourself
Mar 28 22:03:27 <tiberiusiv>	mjr yes i know you cant on bitfinex
Mar 28 22:03:35 <MJR_III>	2500 btc i would say
Mar 28 22:03:44 <MJR_III>	5 to 1 margin
Mar 28 22:03:44 <tiberiusiv>	yea thats nothing.
Mar 28 22:03:54 <MJR_III>	well...no one is taking whats out there
Mar 28 22:03:58 <MJR_III>	so it seems to be more than enough
Mar 28 22:04:00 <tiberiusiv>	tahts not even 1% of total daily trading
Mar 28 22:04:04 <MJR_III>	ok...
Mar 28 22:04:06 <tiberiusiv>	it makes 0 impact.
Mar 28 22:04:07 <MJR_III>	your point being
Mar 28 22:04:15 <tiberiusiv>	hence my point there is no reliable way to short BTC at the moment
Mar 28 22:04:22 <copumpkin>	...
Mar 28 22:04:25 <MJR_III>	well...that is probably because you'd have to be stupid to short
Mar 28 22:04:26 <tiberiusiv>	and thats why price movements to the downside are violent
Mar 28 22:04:32 <tiberiusiv>	no short covering(bids)
Mar 28 22:04:35 <copumpkin>	you can still approach me and say "hey copumpkin, can I borrow some coins?"
Mar 28 22:04:44 <tiberiusiv>	thats not a reliable way
Mar 28 22:04:51 *	copumpkin shrugs
Mar 28 22:04:53 <tiberiusiv>	you dont have any coins to make real size.
Mar 28 22:05:00 <MJR_III>	you know his holdings?
Mar 28 22:05:04 <tiberiusiv>	a speculator that needs larger size, you going to lend him your 20btc?
Mar 28 22:05:06 <tiberiusiv>	lol.
Mar 28 22:05:06 <MJR_III>	pray tell how did you obtain this info?
Mar 28 22:05:16 <tiberiusiv>	MJR he has nothing and neither do you now sush.
Mar 28 22:05:21 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 22:05:23 <MJR_III>	and you know this how?
Mar 28 22:05:24 <tiberiusiv>	theres no reliable/liquid way to short BTCs at the present time
Mar 28 22:05:31 <tiberiusiv>	becuase you are a loser
Mar 28 22:05:34 <tiberiusiv>	late comer to the game
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Mar 28 22:05:37 <MJR_III>	put your money where your mouth is
Mar 28 22:05:45 <MJR_III>	and go to bitfinex and take out the short
Mar 28 22:05:51 <MJR_III>	you can short 2500 RIGHT NOW
Mar 28 22:05:53 <tiberiusiv>	why?
Mar 28 22:05:59 <MJR_III>	if you put up 500 or so coins
Mar 28 22:06:03 <tiberiusiv>	why would i pay 9.5%
Mar 28 22:06:09 <tiberiusiv>	on bitcoin
Mar 28 22:06:10 <MJR_III>	because you'll make money
Mar 28 22:06:14 <tiberiusiv>	when that rate could turn into 300-400%
Mar 28 22:06:16 <MJR_III>	because it'll go down
Mar 28 22:06:21 <MJR_III>	you can lock in fixed rates
Mar 28 22:06:27 <tiberiusiv>	no you cant.
Mar 28 22:06:32 <MJR_III>	oh my gosh
Mar 28 22:06:34 <tiberiusiv>	if you pay 9.5% and the price doubles
Mar 28 22:06:39 <tiberiusiv>	your rate of interest doubles as well
Mar 28 22:06:40 <MJR_III>	have you ever even seen bitfinex's site
Mar 28 22:06:44 <MJR_III>	i can lock in 10%
Mar 28 22:06:46 <tiberiusiv>	thats what your small brain doesnt understand
Mar 28 22:06:50 <tiberiusiv>	yes in BTC terms
Mar 28 22:06:55 <tiberiusiv>	but in dollar terms your rate doubles.
Mar 28 22:07:04 <MJR_III>	but you aren't paying in dollars
Mar 28 22:07:08 <tiberiusiv>	youd have to post massive margin
Mar 28 22:07:09 <MJR_III>	you are paying in bitcoins
Mar 28 22:07:12 <MJR_III>	no you don't
Mar 28 22:07:16 <MJR_III>	you have to OWN bitcoins
Mar 28 22:07:19 <tiberiusiv>	if the price doubles yes you do.
Mar 28 22:07:22 <MJR_III>	ok, enough
Mar 28 22:07:25 <tiberiusiv>	YES precisely
Mar 28 22:07:30 <MJR_III>	if the price doubles the INTEREST is the last of your worries
Mar 28 22:07:32 <tiberiusiv>	you have to BUY THEM if the position goes against you
Mar 28 22:07:36 <tiberiusiv>	+ the high interest charge
Mar 28 22:07:41 <MJR_III>	you will get stopped out if it goes up by 20%
Mar 28 22:07:41 <copumpkin>	have you heard of daily settlement?
Mar 28 22:07:44 <tiberiusiv>	its too expensive to do
Mar 28 22:07:49 <tiberiusiv>	hence why nobody is shorting BTCs
Mar 28 22:07:49 <copumpkin>	I wonder if they do that
Mar 28 22:07:53 <tiberiusiv>	even on short term speculation
Mar 28 22:08:00 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: i'm just gonna mute...its obvious he has no idea what he's talking about
Mar 28 22:08:02 <tiberiusiv>	you said theres 2500 BTC available to borrow
Mar 28 22:08:08 <tiberiusiv>	its not even day tradable
Mar 28 22:08:12 <MJR_III>	ah...peace and quiet
Mar 28 22:08:16 <tiberiusiv>	MJR you dont.
Mar 28 22:08:17 <copumpkin>	we have a baller here
Mar 28 22:08:21 <tiberiusiv>	2 losers with low balances
Mar 28 22:08:33 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 22:08:37 <tiberiusiv>	a speculator needs access to coins fast
Mar 28 22:08:43 <tiberiusiv>	not searching IRC channels for 2 btc loans
Mar 28 22:08:45 <copumpkin>	you can tell yourself that to make yourself feel better about not having any real arguments
Mar 28 22:08:52 <tiberiusiv>	my arguement is very real
Mar 28 22:08:57 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: he has been at this game for a week now
Mar 28 22:08:57 <tiberiusiv>	theres no reliable way to short BTC at the moment
Mar 28 22:09:02 <MJR_III>	just trollling bitcoin-assets
Mar 28 22:09:03 <tiberiusiv>	outside of mpex options
Mar 28 22:09:12 <MJR_III>	i ignored him on my phone's irc client
Mar 28 22:09:18 <MJR_III>	but forgot to do it on MiRc
Mar 28 22:09:18 <tiberiusiv>	anyone with 2 IQ points knows that.
Mar 28 22:09:20 <copumpkin>	I conveniently own a slice of MPOE!
Mar 28 22:09:23 <copumpkin>	yay!
Mar 28 22:09:24 *	copumpkin hugs mircea_popescu 
Mar 28 22:09:32 <tiberiusiv>	yea which you paid 1000 times earnings for.
Mar 28 22:09:34 <MJR_III>	so i got sucked into yet another stupid conversation with an idiot
Mar 28 22:09:39 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv?
Mar 28 22:09:44 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 28 22:09:45 <copumpkin>	1000 times earnings?
Mar 28 22:09:56 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: mpoe trades at a 500-1000x earnings multiple.
Mar 28 22:10:05 <copumpkin>	I was one of the first investors
Mar 28 22:10:08 <copumpkin>	I paid nothing for it
Mar 28 22:10:12 <copumpkin>	or close to it
Mar 28 22:10:18 <tiberiusiv>	oh he gave you free shares
Mar 28 22:10:21 <bgupta>	MJR_III not to interupt this retardedness, but what are the requirements to borrow at 12%? IE: How do they know you won't abscond with the coins?
Mar 28 22:10:21 <copumpkin>	no
Mar 28 22:10:21 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: are you involved with iphone jailbreaking?
Mar 28 22:10:23 <copumpkin>	I bought them
Mar 28 22:10:26 <copumpkin>	MJR_III: yep
Mar 28 22:10:29 <copumpkin>	well, I was
Mar 28 22:10:32 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin what price did they IPO at?
Mar 28 22:10:34 <MJR_III>	bgupta: you cannot default
Mar 28 22:10:40 <MJR_III>	they hold your account
Mar 28 22:10:44 <MJR_III>	you cannot withdraw from it
Mar 28 22:10:47 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: I can't remember now, it was ages ago
Mar 28 22:10:49 <MJR_III>	you can only trade with it
Mar 28 22:11:01 <MJR_III>	if you lose what you have in the bank
Mar 28 22:11:01 <copumpkin>	I think I got a little over 100k shares for 5 or 10 btc?
Mar 28 22:11:05 <bgupta>	Ah so you have to use it to short in their trading system.. you can't borrow it for other reasons.
Mar 28 22:11:06 <MJR_III>	they liquidate your position
Mar 28 22:11:09 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 28 22:11:10 <bgupta>	makes sense
Mar 28 22:11:15 <bgupta>	got it
Mar 28 22:11:17 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: yea right.
Mar 28 22:11:18 <MJR_III>	similar to most prop trading firms
Mar 28 22:11:21 <MJR_III>	its a nice system
Mar 28 22:11:29 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: you could get upwards of 10kbtc margin on mpex, iirc. but that's a scam. amirite :D
Mar 28 22:11:30 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: it's logged on MP's blog somewhere, if you look far enough back
Mar 28 22:11:33 <bgupta>	I don't trade currencies so not for me.
Mar 28 22:11:40 <MJR_III>	yeah
Mar 28 22:11:44 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: you know that someone who disagrees with you isn't automatically poor or stupid
Mar 28 22:11:51 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: he doesn't know that
Mar 28 22:11:52 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: you can short bitcoin through illiquid mpex options
Mar 28 22:11:54 <copumpkin>	people can just disagree without it devolving into elementary school playground
Mar 28 22:12:00 <tiberiusiv>	MJR is stupid though.
Mar 28 22:12:02 <tiberiusiv>	hes a child
Mar 28 22:12:09 <copumpkin>	you've said I'm poor because I disagree with you
Mar 28 22:12:11 <copumpkin>	it's kind of amusing
Mar 28 22:12:23 <tiberiusiv>	the way bitcoin is engineered is its incompatible with high interest rates.
Mar 28 22:12:29 <copumpkin>	you can maintain that
Mar 28 22:12:30 <bgupta>	tiber is now on my ignore list.
Mar 28 22:12:30 <copumpkin>	I can disagree
Mar 28 22:12:31 <MJR_III>	the main problem with tiberiusiv is that he doesn't just shut up and short bitcoins, if he is so bearish...then put your money where your mouth is and go short
Mar 28 22:12:40 <tiberiusiv>	high rates only work on very small BTC loans
Mar 28 22:12:41 <MJR_III>	i hope everyone ignores him eventually
Mar 28 22:12:56 <bgupta>	I mean literally I can't see what he is typing.
Mar 28 22:13:01 <MJR_III>	mostly just because i have no interest in listening to his idiocy, but i still have to see the other half of the convo
Mar 28 22:13:04 <tiberiusiv>	MJR why are you changing the topic into me wanting to short coins?
Mar 28 22:13:08 <MJR_III>	bgupta: me neither
Mar 28 22:13:17 <copumpkin>	the most annoying thing about /ignore is that people keep talking about how they can't see what someone is typing :P
Mar 28 22:13:20 <tiberiusiv>	idiot cant even focus on topic at hand
Mar 28 22:13:26 <bgupta>	sorry
Mar 28 22:13:34 <MJR_III>	i like ignoring
Mar 28 22:13:36 <tiberiusiv>	high rates of interest on btc can only work on very tiny BTC loans
Mar 28 22:13:40 <MJR_III>	but it makes for strange half convos
Mar 28 22:13:42 <tiberiusiv>	they cannot work on large scale speculation
Mar 28 22:13:47 <copumpkin>	MJR_III: he's ignored you. Your messages don't get through to him (if you haven't used IRC much before)
Mar 28 22:13:53 <MJR_III>	where you are like "huh? what are you guys talking about"
Mar 28 22:13:53 <copumpkin>	I mean tiberiusiv
Mar 28 22:14:01 <tiberiusiv>	hence why bitfinx isnt even 0.2% of total daily exchange volume
Mar 28 22:14:18 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: where you telling tiberiusiv?
Mar 28 22:14:25 <tiberiusiv>	MJR is a child copumpkin and hes very stupid.
Mar 28 22:14:29 <MJR_III>	were*
Mar 28 22:14:36 <smickles>	bitfinx is pretty new, that may have to do with their size
Mar 28 22:14:40 <tiberiusiv>	guy brings up the ability to short 1-2 BTCs at a time.
Mar 28 22:14:41 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Mar 28 22:14:50 <MJR_III>	yeah not huge...but they pass through to gox
Mar 28 22:14:53 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: I haven't really seen particular evidence of that, and he's not extrapolating unnecessarily, which are doing
Mar 28 22:14:57 <copumpkin>	which *you are doing
Mar 28 22:15:01 <bgupta>	gonna check it out is it only btc/fiat plays or do they have other stuff there?
Mar 28 22:15:01 <tiberiusiv>	evidence of what?
Mar 28 22:15:08 <MJR_III>	only btc/usd
Mar 28 22:15:12 <MJR_III>	i believe
Mar 28 22:15:13 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: of him being a child or particularly stupid
Mar 28 22:15:16 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin has an extremely high default rate for loans
Mar 28 22:15:18 <MJR_III>	i prefer to get margin to go long
Mar 28 22:15:30 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: do you accept that there might be explanations other than high interest rates for that?
Mar 28 22:15:35 <bgupta>	MJR_III: URL?
Mar 28 22:15:39 <MJR_III>	high interest, but if you use it for daytrading its manageable
Mar 28 22:15:46 <MJR_III>	bitfinex.com
Mar 28 22:15:57 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: no, defaults occur when the *real* rate of interest is too high for the borrower to handle.
Mar 28 22:16:09 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: or when the borrower is a thief? :)
Mar 28 22:16:12 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: you keep looking at *nominal* rates
Mar 28 22:16:12 <copumpkin>	or is that inconceivable
Mar 28 22:16:18 <MJR_III>	you basically have a btc wallet and a dollars wallet
Mar 28 22:16:18 <copumpkin>	no, I don't
Mar 28 22:16:23 <tiberiusiv>	the borrowers eventually turn into being thieves
Mar 28 22:16:28 <tiberiusiv>	since they cannot possible repay
Mar 28 22:16:30 <MJR_III>	i mean on bitfinex
Mar 28 22:16:40 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: so everyone's good and the evil lenders force them to steal the money?
Mar 28 22:16:45 <copumpkin>	by imposing rates that are too high
Mar 28 22:16:51 <MJR_III>	if you want to buy and sell bitcoins (withdraw etc) you can use the exchange portion...if you want to trade on margin, there is that portion
Mar 28 22:16:59 <tiberiusiv>	ursurers deserve their losses.
Mar 28 22:17:08 <MJR_III>	and if you would rather just lend out dollars or bitcoins...you can do that too
Mar 28 22:17:13 <copumpkin>	do I sense a religious undertone to that judgment?
Mar 28 22:17:17 <tiberiusiv>	for bitcoin based business's
Mar 28 22:17:28 <tiberiusiv>	they have to issue equitiy
Mar 28 22:17:31 <tiberiusiv>	to survive
Mar 28 22:17:33 <tiberiusiv>	vs debt
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Mar 28 22:17:44 <smickles>	hmmm, i don't think any of the loans i've made > 100btc in value have defaulted
Mar 28 22:17:49 <copumpkin>	opinions are like assholes, they say
Mar 28 22:17:49 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: you are making me think of unignoring him...but i have to be like ulysses and ignore the siren song of trolling
Mar 28 22:17:55 <copumpkin>	MJR_III :)
Mar 28 22:17:56 <tiberiusiv>	the way bitcoin is engineered
Mar 28 22:17:56 <bgupta>	what exchage do the trades get settled?
Mar 28 22:18:00 <tiberiusiv>	its its ANTI-debt
Mar 28 22:18:08 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: you seem intent on preaching a lot and listening very little
Mar 28 22:18:13 <bgupta>	Guessing MtGox? needs to kinda be mtgox to impact the market no?
Mar 28 22:18:14 <tiberiusiv>	meaning ursury in bitcoin doesnt work.
Mar 28 22:18:17 <MJR_III>	bgupta: you can basically go to gox or bfx
Mar 28 22:18:19 <tiberiusiv>	by its very design
Mar 28 22:18:20 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: I'll let you do that without unnecessary distractions of people trying to talk to you
Mar 28 22:18:23 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 28 22:18:31 <MJR_III>	but, you can also go to bitfinex's own book
Mar 28 22:18:37 <MJR_III>	which is a lot cheaper from a fee perspective
Mar 28 22:18:43 <smickles>	bgupta: actually, this recent fun was started by a 700 btc sale on btce
Mar 28 22:18:48 <MJR_III>	.1% vs .4% i believe
Mar 28 22:19:02 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: the rate of defaults on bitcoin loans has been skyigh, only those who are able to derive BTC based incomes can service BTC debts.
Mar 28 22:19:12 <smickles>	took 5 min or so for the traders on gox to even start to react
Mar 28 22:19:14 <benkay>	checkit
Mar 28 22:19:15 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: I know the default rates are high
Mar 28 22:19:16 <benkay>	;;tslb
Mar 28 22:19:21 <gribble>	Time since last block: 17 minutes and 0 seconds
Mar 28 22:19:21 <bgupta>	sure… if you are a an oracle and know which way things will go and aren't trying to influence the market with your trades.
Mar 28 22:19:24 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Mar 28 22:19:27 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1539
Mar 28 22:19:28 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: total credit worthy borrowers in bitcoin land are only a handful.
Mar 28 22:19:44 <MJR_III>	well
Mar 28 22:19:45 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: I suggest that you approach things a bit more open-mindedly in future though, and don't just write off anyone who disagrees with you as poor, young, stupid, or otherwise unworthy of talking
Mar 28 22:19:45 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: bitcoins deflationary design makes it an ANTI-debt currency.
Mar 28 22:19:58 <MJR_III>	you can watch other markets to see where general sentiment is going
Mar 28 22:20:06 <tiberiusiv>	MJR_III is applying fiat currency dynamics to bitcoin.
Mar 28 22:20:12 <copumpkin>	who the fuck cares
Mar 28 22:20:15 <MJR_III>	if you could move money instantly, you could arb bitfloor and btc-e all day
Mar 28 22:20:44 <MJR_III>	the good part of selling on bitfloor is that you can get a liquidity rebate
Mar 28 22:20:50 <copumpkin>	MJR_III: if you could move money instantly, there would be very little to arb in the first place
Mar 28 22:21:09 <tiberiusiv>	i dont see anything wrong with mtgox borrowing customer bitcoins to lend to short sellers
Mar 28 22:21:12 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: i meant if you singular could do that...not you as in everyone
Mar 28 22:21:19 <tiberiusiv>	of course with properly posted margin.
Mar 28 22:21:34 <tiberiusiv>	and some compensation low rates
Mar 28 22:21:38 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: credit regulations might apply?
Mar 28 22:21:41 <MJR_III>	for example if you had a relationship between those two exchanges...all arb would go away as they both equalize
Mar 28 22:21:48 <copumpkin>	I haven't looked into the regulations surrounding issuing credit for short selling
Mar 28 22:21:51 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: i dont see it any different then a broker
Mar 28 22:22:02 <copumpkin>	yes, but do you know that they havne't had to deal with that shit?
Mar 28 22:22:05 <copumpkin>	perhaps they don't
Mar 28 22:22:06 <copumpkin>	I really don't know
Mar 28 22:22:09 <tiberiusiv>	either that or a BTC futures market
Mar 28 22:22:09 <copumpkin>	never been a broker :)
Mar 28 22:22:11 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: has he gotten onto the regulatory dead horse now?
Mar 28 22:22:15 <copumpkin>	nah, that's me :)
Mar 28 22:22:23 <benkay>	;;tslb
Mar 28 22:22:24 <smickles>	oooh, icbit
Mar 28 22:22:28 *	copumpkin waves at smickles 
Mar 28 22:22:29 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 minute and 59 seconds
Mar 28 22:22:32 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: you didn't answer though, are you the iphone jailbreaker?
Mar 28 22:22:35 <smickles>	o/
Mar 28 22:22:38 <copumpkin>	MJR_III: I used to be, yep
Mar 28 22:22:42 <tiberiusiv>	what most bitcoin clowns dont realize is they cannot apply expansionary fiat rules to bitcoin.
Mar 28 22:22:43 <MJR_III>	wow i am honored
Mar 28 22:22:51 <MJR_III>	i wish cydia would take btc
Mar 28 22:22:55 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: how do you know they don't realize this?
Mar 28 22:22:58 <copumpkin>	MJR_III: hah, me too!
Mar 28 22:23:06 <MJR_III>	has anyone asked saurik?
Mar 28 22:23:11 <copumpkin>	I poked him at some point
Mar 28 22:23:18 <copumpkin>	maybe he'll be more amenable to it now
Mar 28 22:23:21 <MJR_III>	hope so
Mar 28 22:23:24 <MJR_III>	it would be nice
Mar 28 22:23:32 <MJR_III>	you made my day though
Mar 28 22:23:36 <MJR_III>	i thought it was you
Mar 28 22:23:36 <copumpkin>	hah
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Mar 28 22:23:42 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: what do you think of the futures offerd by icbit?
Mar 28 22:23:43 <copumpkin>	I'm not particularly famous :P
Mar 28 22:23:48 <MJR_III>	but wasn't sure, but i've been a big fan of your work for a long time
Mar 28 22:23:56 <copumpkin>	thanks :)
Mar 28 22:23:59 <MJR_III>	well the whole devteam really
Mar 28 22:24:00 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: the problem is majority of the firms have no integrity or reputation
Mar 28 22:24:03 <Chaang-Noi>	since sell off to 75, what was that a 50,000 coin market order?
Mar 28 22:24:07 <copumpkin>	haven't done anything related to it in years though, really
Mar 28 22:24:13 <MJR_III>	but i definitely recognize that handle
Mar 28 22:24:16 <copumpkin>	I think last real iphone work I did was 2009/10?
Mar 28 22:24:27 <MJR_III>	i jailbroke the first iphone on 1.0x
Mar 28 22:24:37 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 95
Mar 28 22:24:41 <gribble>	There are currently 9039.4257 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 849457.810281 USD in total. | Data vintage: 236.5691 seconds
Mar 28 22:24:42 <MJR_III>	never did any dev stuff there
Mar 28 22:24:51 <copumpkin>	omg it's a Chaang-Noi
Mar 28 22:24:55 <MJR_III>	but we still had to worry about "bricking" and manually creating symlinks
Mar 28 22:24:59 <copumpkin>	Chaang-Noi: tell tiberiusiv how much money we lost!
Mar 28 22:25:15 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: the ice melted around your champagne, didn't it?
Mar 28 22:25:48 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: see, Chaang-Noi is a goat, and he's epic baller
Mar 28 22:25:56 <copumpkin>	ultra baller goat
Mar 28 22:25:57 <copumpkin>	the kind that climbs trees
Mar 28 22:26:00 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 28 22:26:09 <copumpkin>	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ISrndp6k1ig/UB-bPE1QSVI/AAAAAAAAAFU/gOxPPXa-Fac/s1600/goats-in-trees.jpg
Mar 28 22:26:13 <MJR_III>	how long you been in btcland copumpkin?
Mar 28 22:26:14 <copumpkin>	he's the guy on the upper left
Mar 28 22:26:21 <copumpkin>	MJR_III: couple of years now, on and off
Mar 28 22:26:46 <MJR_III>	yeah i started playing around with it back in 11...trying to do an fpga miner
Mar 28 22:26:56 <MJR_III>	but got distracted and didn't come back till this january
Mar 28 22:26:57 <tiberiusiv>	who has the link of the BFL labs facility being visited
Mar 28 22:27:06 <smickles>	i may be poor, but i think i've gone into the next tax bracket
Mar 28 22:27:11 <MJR_III>	lol nice smickles
Mar 28 22:27:41 <smickles>	too much short term capital gains
Mar 28 22:27:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1076 = 0.538 BTC [+]
Mar 28 22:27:52 <copumpkin>	smickles: omg you entered the 15% rate bracket?
Mar 28 22:27:56 <copumpkin>	congratulations!
Mar 28 22:27:59 <smickles>	:D
Mar 28 22:27:59 <MJR_III>	smickles: you in US? will you declare it?
Mar 28 22:28:08 <copumpkin>	I disagreed with tiberiusiv so I'm clearly in the 10% bracket
Mar 28 22:28:13 <MJR_III>	LOL
Mar 28 22:28:21 <MJR_III>	that is how the tax code works
Mar 28 22:28:36 <MJR_III>	our wealth is determined by our level of agreement with tiberiusiv
Mar 28 22:28:43 <smickles>	MJR_III: well, i declared some last year, and i've already bought some things with it this yeear, so yeah, i think i'll declare it
Mar 28 22:28:56 <MJR_III>	smickles: this is US taxes right?
Mar 28 22:29:00 <smickles>	yes
Mar 28 22:29:05 <MJR_III>	wonder how they will handle it up in canada
Mar 28 22:29:18 <copumpkin>	smickles: O taxmeister, please tell me, what is the point of throwing a $1700-wide hole like this into the tax code? http://snapplr.com/jxx2
Mar 28 22:29:20 <kakobrekla>	just move to yurop already
Mar 28 22:29:25 <MJR_III>	do they have capital gains and such? wonder if cavirtex will report
Mar 28 22:29:38 <Chaang-Noi>	hi copumpkin :)
Mar 28 22:29:45 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160388.0
Mar 28 22:29:53 <Bowjob>	bitcoin will reach 100
Mar 28 22:29:57 <Bowjob>	wooho
Mar 28 22:30:20 <Chaang-Noi>	smickles yeah, a bit sad, what was the vol on that sale?
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Mar 28 22:30:34 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: what are you declaring your BTC gains as, income or capital gains?
Mar 28 22:30:51 <smickles>	copumpkin: lol, i dunno
Mar 28 22:31:00 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: some is capital gains, some is income
Mar 28 22:31:20 <copumpkin>	it really makes a huge difference that those $1700 are taxed not at 33%, not at 39.6%, but at 35% exactly
Mar 28 22:31:22 <tiberiusiv>	smickles with how poor you are, you are exempt for first 20k anyway
Mar 28 22:31:54 <tiberiusiv>	US has barely any income tax on close to 50k
Mar 28 22:31:59 <tiberiusiv>	of annual income
Mar 28 22:32:08 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: (smickles is an accountant)
Mar 28 22:32:10 <tiberiusiv>	once you add in all the deductions
Mar 28 22:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00389736 = 11.6921 BTC [-]
Mar 28 22:32:39 <tiberiusiv>	truth be told majority of americans do not pay income taxes
Mar 28 22:32:53 <copumpkin>	as mitt famously said :)
Mar 28 22:32:55 <tiberiusiv>	its primarily only the wealthy
Mar 28 22:33:14 <smickles>	this'll be the first year i have to pay fed. income tax, unless i'm mistaken
Mar 28 22:33:27 <tiberiusiv>	1% foot like 50% of the tax bill in the US
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Mar 28 22:33:34 <copumpkin>	poor things
Mar 28 22:33:43 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: yea case and point
Mar 28 22:33:49 <tiberiusiv>	first time ever paying income tax for you
Mar 28 22:33:54 <KRS1>	tiberiusiv: you don't seem like you know what you are talking about when you say majority of Americans don't pay income taxes.
Mar 28 22:34:03 <tiberiusiv>	they dont KRS1.
Mar 28 22:34:13 <tiberiusiv>	the US income tax code has a ridiculous ammount of deductions
Mar 28 22:34:13 <KRS1>	Many do not have a choice, it comes out of their paychecks.
Mar 28 22:34:16 <smickles>	i think a lot do, but they don't have to
Mar 28 22:34:25 <tiberiusiv>	KRS1: they get refunds.
Mar 28 22:34:34 <KRS1>	Thats right, for overpayments.
Mar 28 22:34:37 <tiberiusiv>	KRS1: yes
Mar 28 22:34:44 <smickles>	KRS1: tiberiusiv wouldn't count an interest free, manditory loan as a tax
Mar 28 22:35:00 <tiberiusiv>	KRS1: in the united states you have so many deductions someone earning up to 50k can have a 0% tax bill
Mar 28 22:35:19 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 28 22:35:29 <MJR_III>	that is my least favorite
Mar 28 22:35:29 <KRS1>	smickles, this im wasting my time aren't I
Mar 28 22:35:30 <tiberiusiv>	in europe some countries rape you for 60%.
Mar 28 22:35:33 <copumpkin>	well, payroll tax always applies
Mar 28 22:35:41 <copumpkin>	so even those that don't pay income tax pay payroll tax
Mar 28 22:35:49 <MJR_III>	KRS1: come join on us on the ignoring tiberiusiv side, its really great
Mar 28 22:35:49 <tiberiusiv>	payroll tax is low for low earners
Mar 28 22:35:49 <KRS1>	<- off to do something productive
Mar 28 22:35:49 <copumpkin>	well, almost always applies
Mar 28 22:35:54 <copumpkin>	unless you're really poor
Mar 28 22:36:02 <tiberiusiv>	KRS1: dont be an ignorant.
Mar 28 22:36:10 <tiberiusiv>	1% of the US population supports 50% of the nation
Mar 28 22:36:13 <MJR_III>	smickles: even if you are poor...they still take it out and you have to file to get it back right?
Mar 28 22:36:18 <tiberiusiv>	go read up who pays tax in america
Mar 28 22:36:26 <tiberiusiv>	5-10% are close to 90%
Mar 28 22:36:27 <smickles>	oh, ya know, i have like 30k carry-over from my rental property. I'm not going to pay fed. income tax unless i do a lot better
Mar 28 22:36:33 <MJR_III>	hehehe
Mar 28 22:36:51 <tiberiusiv>	case and point smickles
Mar 28 22:36:52 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: yay!
Mar 28 22:37:03 <MJR_III>	the funniest thing, and this is a testament to the average americans intelligence regarding finance, is that people get excited when they get their own money back
Mar 28 22:37:08 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: "case in point" is the idiom
Mar 28 22:37:16 <tiberiusiv>	europe is completely different
Mar 28 22:37:29 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone one know the volume on the sale to 75 off hand? thanks
Mar 28 22:37:32 <tiberiusiv>	come countries it can be up to 80% of your income taken when you also count VAT
Mar 28 22:37:35 <tiberiusiv>	some*
Mar 28 22:37:45 <copumpkin>	;;asks 75
Mar 28 22:37:58 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0019 seconds
Mar 28 22:38:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean the one last night, the huge harket sell order
Mar 28 22:38:07 <Chaang-Noi>	market
Mar 28 22:38:11 <copumpkin>	oh
Mar 28 22:38:32 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: it started with a one-off 700 btc on btce
Mar 28 22:38:33 <MJR_III>	i literally don't even know why someone would do that
Mar 28 22:38:37 <MJR_III>	so much slippage
Mar 28 22:38:43 <copumpkin>	;;bids 75
Mar 28 22:38:44 <gribble>	There are currently 43668.029 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 3431186.42875 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.9326 seconds
Mar 28 22:38:56 <Chaang-Noi>	smickles really?
Mar 28 22:38:58 *	copumpkin beams
Mar 28 22:39:14 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: yeah, gox traders didn't even react for 5 min or so
Mar 28 22:39:25 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: do the iphone guys use freenode?
Mar 28 22:39:28 <Chaang-Noi>	last night i bet it was thicker than what it is now, that is a massive sell off
Mar 28 22:39:29 <Diablo-D3>	well
Mar 28 22:39:34 <copumpkin>	MJR_III: not really
Mar 28 22:39:35 <Diablo-D3>	I wish BTC would get to $1000 already
Mar 28 22:39:39 <tiberiusiv>	one of the best attributes of bitcoin is that by design it discourges debt accumulation
Mar 28 22:39:42 <copumpkin>	Diablo-D3: over 8000!!!
Mar 28 22:39:49 <MJR_III>	Diablo-D3: yep...i can't wait
Mar 28 22:39:56 <Diablo-D3>	no, $1000 is fine
Mar 28 22:40:03 <Diablo-D3>	I just need enough money to start DMC
Mar 28 22:40:06 <copumpkin>	you sure you wouldn't prefer over 8000!?!?!?!?
Mar 28 22:40:33 <Diablo-D3>	copumpkin: it'd take too long
Mar 28 22:40:40 <smickles>	the laptop i bought with btc at the begining of this week is named "btc9001"
Mar 28 22:40:41 <MJR_III>	i mostly think that it is necessary for the price to get to that level so we can start doing real institutional stuff
Mar 28 22:40:44 <Diablo-D3>	and its clear copumpkin is a fan of the source material
Mar 28 22:40:47 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 22:41:16 <MJR_III>	gonna be a huge space available for investment bank/underwriting, handling IPO's etc
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Mar 28 22:41:22 <copumpkin>	someone just did a lot on btcn
Mar 28 22:41:43 <Diablo-D3>	MJR_III: yeah, but Im looking for over $200m.
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Mar 28 22:46:09 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: what do you do when you're not arguing on IRC?
Mar 28 22:46:36 <tiberiusiv>	short selling romania
Mar 28 22:46:55 <copumpkin>	sounds like fun
Mar 28 22:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.92 BTC [+]
Mar 28 22:52:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.00485 = 0.0146 BTC [-]
Mar 28 22:52:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.3519 = 0.7038 BTC [-]
Mar 28 22:52:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.005 BTC [+]
Mar 28 22:53:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 49 @ 0.00506 = 0.2479 BTC [+]
Mar 28 22:53:10 <KRS1>	lol copumpkin
Mar 28 22:53:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 78 @ 0.005065 = 0.3951 BTC [+]
Mar 28 22:53:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 79 @ 0.005075 = 0.4009 BTC [+]
Mar 28 22:53:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 475 @ 0.00508 = 2.413 BTC [+]
Mar 28 22:53:45 <MJR_III>	smickles: it's kind of hard to do some financial analysis of sdice right now right? we don't have a full year of data...
Mar 28 22:53:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.849998 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Mar 28 22:54:28 <MJR_III>	would like to come up with a realistic valuation
Mar 28 22:54:44 <copumpkin>	did you guys know that there's a million-dollar-an-hour club?
Mar 28 22:54:54 <KRS1>	lol what..nice.
Mar 28 22:54:55 <copumpkin>	(of high earners, to put it lightly)
Mar 28 22:55:01 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: where?
Mar 28 22:56:30 <copumpkin>	http://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Million-Dollars-Hour/dp/1118239245
Mar 28 22:56:31 <smickles>	MJR_III: i'm sure you could get a good idea from the data out there now. the main thing would be wether or not there will come some outside influence on their operations
Mar 28 22:56:34 <copumpkin>	lol @ inflammatory title
Mar 28 22:56:49 <copumpkin>	but there are HF managers who have made that much on good years, if you assume 40-hour work weeks and the like
Mar 28 22:57:37 <MJR_III>	record for HF is 4 billion one year
Mar 28 22:57:42 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 22:57:42 <gribble>	87.54
Mar 28 22:57:53 <MJR_III>	for the hedge fund manager
Mar 28 22:57:54 <copumpkin>	MJR_III: I think paulson made 4.8 one year
Mar 28 22:57:57 <copumpkin>	dalio has made 3.8
Mar 28 22:58:02 <MJR_III>	wow
Mar 28 22:58:09 <copumpkin>	a few others
Mar 28 22:58:19 <MJR_III>	but it is a common saying among those guys that they wouldn't roll out of bed for what lloyd blankfein makes
Mar 28 22:58:47 <MJR_III>	but the average hedge fund manager makes ONLY 375k
Mar 28 22:58:48 <copumpkin>	hah
Mar 28 22:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.47 = 1.88 BTC [+]
Mar 28 22:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.47 = 1.88 BTC [+]
Mar 28 22:59:13 <MJR_III>	i was reading an article about hedge fund guys, and that was the cautionary tale
Mar 28 22:59:31 <MJR_III>	i know you guys think you will get rich but be aware most people only make slightly under 400k a year
Mar 28 22:59:49 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 22:59:51 <MJR_III>	i'm like...oh in that case nevermind
Mar 28 22:59:55 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if it's worth reading thr scrollback
Mar 28 22:59:58 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 28 23:00:00 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: absolutely not
Mar 28 23:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.478 = 0.956 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:00:05 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: no it isn't
Mar 28 23:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	227 ignored lines it says. yeah, i see.
Mar 28 23:00:36 <MJR_III>	it was entertaining for a little while, but i am hoping that we can move past the tiberiusiv era
Mar 28 23:00:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849998 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder who the next ciuciu will be
Mar 28 23:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.479 = 0.958 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:01:06 <MJR_III>	his latest argument was that it is too expensive to short bitcoins because if they go up your interest rate is huge
Mar 28 23:01:10 <copumpkin>	MJR_III: and most people at HFs aren't the "managers" as people call them
Mar 28 23:01:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.849998 = 4.25 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:01:22 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: my friend is a quant for one
Mar 28 23:01:29 <MJR_III>	most of the hedge funds are quite small
Mar 28 23:01:34 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III he had me yesterday, when he was explaining that he can't short mpoe because he doesn;t own all the money in the world
Mar 28 23:01:39 <copumpkin>	yup
Mar 28 23:01:41 <MJR_III>	couple qualitatives, couple quants...and a manager
Mar 28 23:01:45 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: he tried that on us too
Mar 28 23:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	but failed to understand how this undermines his argument as to mpoe being weak.
Mar 28 23:01:49 <MJR_III>	yep
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Mar 28 23:01:58 <MJR_III>	it was ridiculous
Mar 28 23:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like... you need all the money in the world to push over this here rotten reed.
Mar 28 23:02:07 <mircea_popescu>	seems legit
Mar 28 23:02:11 <MJR_III>	i told him i couldn't borrow a quintillion dollars either
Mar 28 23:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	a cunnilingus dollars ?!
Mar 28 23:02:27 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 28 23:02:43 <MJR_III>	and that P != P + I
Mar 28 23:02:58 <MJR_III>	any new money created through debt does not create enough for the interest on the debt
Mar 28 23:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	well anyway.
Mar 28 23:03:12 <MJR_III>	and yet the world keeps on turning
Mar 28 23:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin failed to cross 100, mpoe contracrt volume failed to cross 1/2 mn
Mar 28 23:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	i can't claim 50mn notional this month ;/
Mar 28 23:03:50 <copumpkin>	oh no!
Mar 28 23:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	all is for naught
Mar 28 23:04:02 <copumpkin>	all is for naughty
Mar 28 23:04:06 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 28 23:04:11 <smickles>	THE JIG IS UP!
Mar 28 23:04:32 <mircea_popescu>	smickles da jiggle
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Mar 28 23:04:49 <MJR_III>	what was the total volume mircea_popescu
Mar 28 23:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	like almost 500k
Mar 28 23:05:08 <MJR_III>	quite impressive
Mar 28 23:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	it is
Mar 28 23:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	last highest was like 130k iirc
Mar 28 23:05:29 <MJR_III>	expecting good dividends?
Mar 28 23:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	that we see tomorro
Mar 28 23:05:53 <MJR_III>	hmmm
Mar 28 23:06:00 <MJR_III>	brb
Mar 28 23:06:07 <smickles>	MJR_III: he typically keeps a tight lip on that topic
Mar 28 23:06:37 <mircea_popescu>	yeh teh tradition is that no comment
Mar 28 23:06:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00066065 = 3.039 BTC [-]
Mar 28 23:07:09 <MJR_III>	hehehe
Mar 28 23:07:11 <MJR_III>	all good
Mar 28 23:07:12 <smickles>	Bugpowder, iirc, seems to think no dividend, mpbor boned
Mar 28 23:07:25 <MJR_III>	almost tripled my position
Mar 28 23:07:41 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Mar 28 23:07:44 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1338
Mar 28 23:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	190`817 actually
Mar 28 23:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	back in january
Mar 28 23:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	odd how mpex volume seems to skip a month
Mar 28 23:08:02 <MJR_III>	hmmm
Mar 28 23:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe i mean
Mar 28 23:08:09 <MJR_III>	why did my trade not hit assbot?
Mar 28 23:08:12 <copumpkin>	I wonder how much is in my mpex account right now
Mar 28 23:08:18 <MJR_III>	lol, there it is
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Mar 28 23:08:35 <mircea_popescu>	!mp copumpkin's account details
Mar 28 23:08:35 <assbot>	Please use http://dpaste.com/
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Mar 28 23:08:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 28 23:08:50 <copumpkin>	I see...
Mar 28 23:08:53 <smickles>	that's a funny thing
Mar 28 23:08:56 <mircea_popescu>	wait, mpoe back to 66 ?
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Mar 28 23:09:17 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: what'd it start at again?
Mar 28 23:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	0.00002
Mar 28 23:09:44 <copumpkin>	hmm
Mar 28 23:10:08 <smickles>	copumpkin: i have a gui interface to mpex now :)
Mar 28 23:10:09 <copumpkin>	so I've made decent money off of my investment
Mar 28 23:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	well actually 0.00009 1st block (1mn) then 2nd block 0.000025 or so
Mar 28 23:10:11 <copumpkin>	assuming I sell it
Mar 28 23:10:15 <Namworld>	[23:06] <mircea_popescu> yeh teh tradition is that no comment
Mar 28 23:10:16 <smickles>	and I'm improving it too
Mar 28 23:10:22 <Namworld>	^^^^ ofc
Mar 28 23:10:40 <Namworld>	Otherwise it would impact derivates trading if people could know upfront
Mar 28 23:10:52 <MJR_III>	hmmm
Mar 28 23:10:56 <MJR_III>	good point
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Mar 28 23:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin wait you had shares too ?
Mar 28 23:12:03 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 23:12:12 <copumpkin>	yeah, around 110k iirc
Mar 28 23:12:13 <smickles>	http://youtu.be/jyLvkF2z0AQ
Mar 28 23:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	this is so disconnecty for me. on one hand there's this endless stream of "o, mpoe, scam, nobody uses it, wtfbbq"
Mar 28 23:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	on the other everyone seems to have shares, i'm like...
Mar 28 23:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	loooost
Mar 28 23:12:39 <copumpkin>	I never said that!
Mar 28 23:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	not u!
Mar 28 23:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	forumppl
Mar 28 23:12:45 <smickles>	copumpkin: that link was for you
Mar 28 23:13:01 <tiberiusiv>	mp: quit the bs. if everyone had shares you wouldnt still own 90% of them
Mar 28 23:13:06 <copumpkin>	smickles: I see :P
Mar 28 23:13:14 <copumpkin>	oh he's back!
Mar 28 23:13:14 <smickles>	hehehe
Mar 28 23:13:30 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin selling would take the price down by 20%
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Mar 28 23:13:50 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: still made good money off of it
Mar 28 23:13:52 <Namworld>	forum people are angry of having to either pay fees to a broker or pay a high fee to trade directly on the exchange.
Mar 28 23:13:52 <copumpkin>	if I did sell
Mar 28 23:13:53 <copumpkin>	which I won't
Mar 28 23:14:00 <copumpkin>	cause I'm too lazy to place an order through the system :P
Mar 28 23:14:10 <Namworld>	Or just angry at your personality/the other business you run
Mar 28 23:14:14 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: broker fees are low. coinbr is very fair imo
Mar 28 23:14:21 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld in a word, just angry.
Mar 28 23:14:21 <smickles>	copumpkin: smickles.com/mpex-gui/
Mar 28 23:14:22 <Namworld>	or even MPOE-PR being a loudmouth
Mar 28 23:14:26 <Namworld>	aye
Mar 28 23:14:33 <tiberiusiv>	itsnot so much the fees, its the gypsy scum behind it.
Mar 28 23:14:35 <Namworld>	tiberiusiv, true
Mar 28 23:14:40 <copumpkin>	smickles: cute! still too lazy though :(
Mar 28 23:14:43 <Namworld>	Fees are good on coinbr
Mar 28 23:14:45 <smickles>	haha!
Mar 28 23:14:45 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: seriously?
Mar 28 23:15:10 <Namworld>	Ah yes, many just don't like mircea.
Mar 28 23:15:16 <MJR_III>	what other business do you run mircea_popescu
Mar 28 23:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno what he meant
Mar 28 23:15:28 <copumpkin>	people dislike mircea_popescu because his penis is too big
Mar 28 23:15:32 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 28 23:15:45 <MJR_III>	who gives a fuck how they feel...the exchange speaks for itself
Mar 28 23:15:45 <tiberiusiv>	people are relunctant to trust a lowlife pervert residing in the internet fraud capital of the world
Mar 28 23:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	that's my clitoris.
Mar 28 23:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	my penis' even bigger.
Mar 28 23:15:59 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: did you go by another nick in the past?
Mar 28 23:16:05 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 28 23:16:07 <copumpkin>	there was another guy in here
Mar 28 23:16:12 <copumpkin>	who spoke about mircea_popescu in exactly the same terms
Mar 28 23:16:14 <tiberiusiv>	so i heard
Mar 28 23:16:18 <copumpkin>	I can't remember what his nick was
Mar 28 23:16:35 <tiberiusiv>	compumpkin: thats the truth though
Mar 28 23:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	don rickles ?
Mar 28 23:16:54 <tiberiusiv>	compunkin: assume real capital enters bitcoin, it wont be going to mircea.
Mar 28 23:17:02 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: "gypsy scum" is the truth?
Mar 28 23:17:16 <tiberiusiv>	sure look at the activities hes engaged in
Mar 28 23:17:19 <tiberiusiv>	pimping women
Mar 28 23:17:32 <tiberiusiv>	his site is loaded with torture pics etc.
Mar 28 23:17:39 <smickles>	i thought he just whipped the women
Mar 28 23:17:45 <tiberiusiv>	great magnet for capital
Mar 28 23:17:50 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: so are the admins of reddit also gypsy scum?
Mar 28 23:17:53 <copumpkin>	and moot, perhaps
Mar 28 23:17:55 <MJR_III>	yeah, the whole bdsm article confused me a little
Mar 28 23:18:05 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: nobody takes reddit seriously.
Mar 28 23:18:10 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 23:18:19 <copumpkin>	it must be great seeing everything in perfect black and white
Mar 28 23:18:19 <tiberiusiv>	its just internet people
Mar 28 23:18:27 <copumpkin>	really makes life a lot simpler
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Mar 28 23:18:31 <copumpkin>	to see no nuance at all :)
Mar 28 23:18:36 <smickles>	'internet people' and 'real capital'
Mar 28 23:18:38 <tiberiusiv>	copumkin: i live in the real world
Mar 28 23:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	smickles i don't think he knows about that part yet.
Mar 28 23:18:40 <MJR_III>	i think "simple" sums him up perfectly
Mar 28 23:18:51 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: and we don't?
Mar 28 23:18:58 <copumpkin>	admittedly, I kinda don't
Mar 28 23:18:58 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: people with $$$ are relunctant to part with it.
Mar 28 23:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.40999998 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:19:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.40999998 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:19:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.40999999 = 0.82 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:19:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41099999 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:19:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.41099999 = 2.055 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:19:24 <MJR_III>	was that a buy or a sell?
Mar 28 23:19:26 <tiberiusiv>	they arent going to invest into a pornographer in romania
Mar 28 23:19:40 <copumpkin>	fine
Mar 28 23:19:40 <MJR_III>	the + means they took the ask right?
Mar 28 23:19:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 77 @ 0.00508 = 0.3912 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:19:51 <tiberiusiv>	thats all im saying copumpkin
Mar 28 23:19:52 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: why are you actively set against him, instead of just neutral, then?
Mar 28 23:19:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 98 @ 0.0055 = 0.539 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:19:58 <copumpkin>	okay, so they won't invest in him
Mar 28 23:20:02 <copumpkin>	who cares?
Mar 28 23:20:07 <MJR_III>	trolls care
Mar 28 23:20:30 <MJR_III>	tiberiusiv is like atheists who devote all of their time to arguing about things they don't believe in
Mar 28 23:20:44 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is one out millions of fraudsters/dubious characters that romania has produced
Mar 28 23:20:52 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: how do you know he's a fraudster?
Mar 28 23:20:56 <smickles>	MJR_III: the + means it was traded higher than the last time, not a statement on who was the liquidity taker
Mar 28 23:21:04 <MJR_III>	agnostics just go on about their business...to be honest most religious people spend less time talking about religion than most atheists on reddit at least
Mar 28 23:21:09 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: because he offers 0 transparency.
Mar 28 23:21:22 <smickles>	huh
Mar 28 23:21:27 <tiberiusiv>	nothing can be verified on mpex
Mar 28 23:21:31 <tiberiusiv>	its all what he says
Mar 28 23:21:32 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: he publishes reports monthly, doesn't he?
Mar 28 23:21:37 <copumpkin>	or you mean looking behind that?
Mar 28 23:21:40 <tiberiusiv>	lol that makes it transparent?
Mar 28 23:21:46 <copumpkin>	have you verified mtgox's reports?
Mar 28 23:21:50 <tiberiusiv>	*HE* publishes is the key word there
Mar 28 23:21:57 <tiberiusiv>	nobody has copumpkin thats the point.
Mar 28 23:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.92 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:22:08 <copumpkin>	so is MagicalTux a fraudster?
Mar 28 23:22:24 <tiberiusiv>	copumkin: and him being the largest seller of shares is another conflict of interest.
Mar 28 23:22:24 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: no he is probably just poor/a kid
Mar 28 23:22:36 <smickles>	copumpkin: well, he would've been, (MT) but he started making too much money
Mar 28 23:22:38 <tiberiusiv>	he has a vested interest in pumping the value of his shoddy business's
Mar 28 23:22:46 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: but how about MagicalTux?
Mar 28 23:22:53 <tiberiusiv>	i dont know who that is
Mar 28 23:22:59 <copumpkin>	the owner of mtgox
Mar 28 23:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.445 = 0.89 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:23:12 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: im justs tating Mircea has a vested interest in convincing people into buying his wares
Mar 28 23:23:25 <copumpkin>	isn't that true of every merchant out there?
Mar 28 23:23:33 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: well first off mtgox is an actual corporation with reporting requirements..
Mar 28 23:23:47 <tiberiusiv>	they need 3rd party auditors for tax purposes in japan
Mar 28 23:23:50 <smickles>	and polimedia isn't
Mar 28 23:23:51 <deadweasel>	you mean like advertising?
Mar 28 23:23:54 <smickles>	@.@
Mar 28 23:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.479 = 0.958 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:24:42 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is in romania because there is no real laws there
Mar 28 23:24:52 <copumpkin>	he's in romania because he's romanian, I thought
Mar 28 23:24:57 <tiberiusiv>	judges can be bought for $500 in the event of litigation
Mar 28 23:24:59 <copumpkin>	although he did move there after being in the US
Mar 28 23:25:12 <copumpkin>	most people live in the place they're from, eventually
Mar 28 23:25:12 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: because he couldnt get away running his scheme in the US.
Mar 28 23:25:20 <copumpkin>	what scheme was that?
Mar 28 23:25:29 <tiberiusiv>	romania is a 3rd world shithole, nobody chooses to live there on their own
Mar 28 23:25:36 <copumpkin>	have you been there?
Mar 28 23:25:37 <tiberiusiv>	its just a convenient place to do fraud in
Mar 28 23:25:40 <smickles>	copumpkin: consulting, iirc
Mar 28 23:25:43 <tiberiusiv>	since you have no legal recourse
Mar 28 23:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1y0vfBGm38
Mar 28 23:26:05 <tiberiusiv>	police earn maybe $200 amonth
Mar 28 23:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	pretty lolzy. wtf are they doing with the chips
Mar 28 23:26:07 <tiberiusiv>	if that etc.
Mar 28 23:26:09 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: have you been there?
Mar 28 23:26:13 <tiberiusiv>	so someone with alot of $$$ is a big player
Mar 28 23:26:23 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin: ive already stated YES and my good friend was from his exact city
Mar 28 23:26:29 <tiberiusiv>	which happens to be the wealthiest part of RO
Mar 28 23:26:55 <tiberiusiv>	a guy like mircea is invincible in romania
Mar 28 23:27:08 <tiberiusiv>	in the US hes a nobody.
Mar 28 23:27:10 <copumpkin>	you know a lot
Mar 28 23:27:20 <tiberiusiv>	go buy tickets and go there
Mar 28 23:27:31 <copumpkin>	yessir!
Mar 28 23:28:07 <MJR_III>	copumpkin: he will circle back to his first point again at some point and just repeat the cycle
Mar 28 23:29:02 <copumpkin>	$ grep "<tiberiusiv>" foo.txt | grep "?" | wc -l
Mar 28 23:29:02 <copumpkin>	      15
Mar 28 23:29:07 <copumpkin>	$ grep "<tiberiusiv>" foo.txt | wc -l
Mar 28 23:29:07 <copumpkin>	     253
Mar 28 23:29:19 <tiberiusiv>	?
Mar 28 23:29:28 <copumpkin>	just a statistic
Mar 28 23:29:35 <copumpkin>	my log of this channel from the past couple of hours
Mar 28 23:29:50 <smickles>	just the past couple of hours?
Mar 28 23:29:55 <copumpkin>	yeah
Mar 28 23:30:24 <MJR_III>	negraneu reminds me of edward norton so i always think of rounders when i see him play
Mar 28 23:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	he kinda sucks imo
Mar 28 23:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	telegraphs to all hell
Mar 28 23:31:50 <smickles>	we must have different greps, that same command gets me 2 and 12
Mar 28 23:32:10 <smickles>	and my logs go back a while
Mar 28 23:32:24 <copumpkin>	different greps have different syntax
Mar 28 23:33:06 <smickles>	i don't see what i'm doing wrong with mine D:
Mar 28 23:33:24 <copumpkin>	you ignoring him perchance? :P
Mar 28 23:33:46 <smickles>	nope
Mar 28 23:33:50 <smickles>	i don't ignore anyone
Mar 28 23:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	different greps what abominations am i reading
Mar 28 23:33:58 <mircea_popescu>	there's only one grep and its name is grep
Mar 28 23:34:00 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 23:34:22 <smickles>	there are different greps, actually :P
Mar 28 23:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	infidel
Mar 28 23:34:42 <copumpkin>	there is but one true grep
Mar 28 23:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/03/28/company-releases-new-bacon-flavored-condoms/#ixzz2OriHQTSs
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Mar 28 23:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	fox. farly balanced.
Mar 28 23:35:11 <smickles>	OOOOOHHHHH
Mar 28 23:35:13 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 28 23:35:14 <copumpkin>	they put tastebuds in rectums (recta?) now?
Mar 28 23:35:23 <smickles>	my log does it like < tiberiusiv>
Mar 28 23:36:05 <smickles>	copumpkin: i have 1998 vs 20974
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Mar 28 23:36:22 <copumpkin>	smickles: perhaps he's usually more inquisitive than he was tonight
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Mar 28 23:36:37 <copumpkin>	it'd be interesting to run a sliding window average over it
Mar 28 23:36:38 <Chaang-Noi>	how is that sell off last night going to lower the 24 hour average for all these calls?
Mar 28 23:36:40 <copumpkin>	and plot the topic of conversation
Mar 28 23:36:53 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 28 23:36:54 <gribble>	87.54
Mar 28 23:36:55 <smickles>	Chaang-Noi: ^
Mar 28 23:37:05 <mircea_popescu>	copumpkin tastebutts.
Mar 28 23:37:11 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm higher than i expected
Mar 28 23:37:12 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: ohhh!
Mar 28 23:37:18 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: never knew they were spelled that way
Mar 28 23:37:20 <Chaang-Noi>	that sell off might not have had volume
Mar 28 23:37:26 <copumpkin>	everything makes sense now
Mar 28 23:37:34 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly, i'm looking forward to fresh onion flavoured
Mar 28 23:37:40 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 23:37:49 <mircea_popescu>	same tearflow, less wear and tear on the whips
Mar 28 23:37:53 <copumpkin>	bhut jolokia flavor
Mar 28 23:38:08 <Chaang-Noi>	you like onions when you go down on a guy? lol are we still talking about flavoured comdoms?
Mar 28 23:38:43 <smickles>	sour apple should improve performance
Mar 28 23:39:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i never understood why one would even wont to have a condom on while getting a bj
Mar 28 23:39:40 <Chaang-Noi>	condoms are good for aids/babies
Mar 28 23:39:43 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi some people don't have ALL the venereal disease there is yet.
Mar 28 23:39:55 <Chaang-Noi>	why not find a clean girl?
Mar 28 23:40:17 <Chaang-Noi>	is it really bad in romania?
Mar 28 23:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Mar 28 23:40:49 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe iv just been lucky :/
Mar 28 23:41:21 <smickles>	i saw some that had some kind of coating, the box said 'for external use only'. wtf is that?
Mar 28 23:41:34 <Chaang-Noi>	handjobs?
Mar 28 23:41:49 <Chaang-Noi>	or maybe a tit fuck?
Mar 28 23:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	some people hammer nails with their cocks
Mar 28 23:42:15 <tiberiusiv>	lol @ clean girl in romania
Mar 28 23:42:18 <copumpkin>	some people put nails through their cocks
Mar 28 23:42:28 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: now you're just trolling; go away
Mar 28 23:42:47 <Chaang-Noi>	copumpkin just now? lol  this troll has been around a while:)
Mar 28 23:42:54 <tiberiusiv>	wouldnt expect any less of a response from an mpex shareholder
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Mar 28 23:43:04 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: please tell me what you have deduced about me
Mar 28 23:43:05 <Chaang-Noi>	oh tiberslav
Mar 28 23:43:19 <smickles>	although i've never been to romainia, tiberiusiv, you're starting to come off more like a bigot as time goes on
Mar 28 23:43:51 <Chaang-Noi>	smickles the only thin tiberslav said was good about mp was when he burnt the koran
Mar 28 23:43:53 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: you mised the part when tiberiusiv called copumpkin poor for disagreeing with him
Mar 28 23:43:56 <tiberiusiv>	smickles well i doubt youve left your state.
Mar 28 23:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	poor, poor, poor copumpkin
Mar 28 23:44:24 <copumpkin>	I think we all need report cards, written up by tiberiusiv
Mar 28 23:44:28 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: actually, i've been to the lower 48, most of norther mexico and most of souther canada
Mar 28 23:44:40 <copumpkin>	enumerating the things he's deduced about us based on our extensive interactions
Mar 28 23:44:42 <mircea_popescu>	when finance reared its ugly head copumpkin poorly wrote a check and fled...
Mar 28 23:44:46 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 23:44:47 <tiberiusiv>	copumpkin offered to lend his vast holdings of BTC for short selling
Mar 28 23:44:57 <smickles>	i had to backtrack and go to rhode island, so fucking small i missed it the first time around
Mar 28 23:45:10 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: inorite
Mar 28 23:45:14 <tiberiusiv>	so youve never left north america smickles
Mar 28 23:45:18 <copumpkin>	I don't think I actually offered
Mar 28 23:45:26 <copumpkin>	but I did propose you asking as a solution to your problem
Mar 28 23:45:27 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: nope
Mar 28 23:45:37 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: how many are you actually looking for, out of curiosity?
Mar 28 23:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. nobody who owns mpoe stock is poor.
Mar 28 23:45:43 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: so youve seen 1 other culture basically, mexico
Mar 28 23:45:55 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: I am rich, filled to the brim with mircea_popescu's love
Mar 28 23:45:56 <smickles>	I almost went to japan once, but decided to go to gencon instead
Mar 28 23:46:20 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: the thing is, in america everyone is sensitive to the slightest comment
Mar 28 23:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	ya you are full of it copumpkin
Mar 28 23:46:31 <copumpkin>	mmmm
Mar 28 23:46:34 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: that is about the extent of my travels, although i'd consider american and canadan indians a seperate culture
Mar 28 23:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	"She didn't have large breasts, but they were by no means small either."
Mar 28 23:46:46 <tiberiusiv>	so yea everyones a bigot to you that isnt politically ie american correct.
Mar 28 23:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes i wonder if these people ever saw tits
Mar 28 23:46:50 <copumpkin>	lol
Mar 28 23:46:55 <copumpkin>	no, bigots are bigots
Mar 28 23:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much the only characterisation ever made is "big"
Mar 28 23:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	"not big but still big"
Mar 28 23:47:02 <smickles>	a canadan tribe almost imprisoned me for going up the wrong creek once
Mar 28 23:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	"even bigger"
Mar 28 23:47:08 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: anyway, I'm curious what you think about me
Mar 28 23:47:12 <mircea_popescu>	dude there's more to boob than mass.
Mar 28 23:47:16 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: can you give me any more information?
Mar 28 23:47:18 <tiberiusiv>	nothing i dont even know who you are
Mar 28 23:47:30 <copumpkin>	[23:44:47] <tiberiusiv>	 copumpkin offered to lend his vast holdings of BTC for short selling
Mar 28 23:47:35 <tiberiusiv>	why should i think anything of you?
Mar 28 23:47:42 <copumpkin>	[23:42:54] <tiberiusiv>	 wouldnt expect any less of a response from an mpex shareholder
Mar 28 23:47:44 <copumpkin>	I don't know
Mar 28 23:47:46 <copumpkin>	but you clearly do
Mar 28 23:47:50 <copumpkin>	based on those comments and others
Mar 28 23:47:59 <tiberiusiv>	well of course you having a vested interest in mircea
Mar 28 23:48:00 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: that's not really my criteria for bigotry, and i don't really favor american political correctness, so far as i can tell
Mar 28 23:48:03 <tiberiusiv>	you will defend him
Mar 28 23:48:06 <copumpkin>	no
Mar 28 23:48:10 <copumpkin>	I've gotten into big fights with him before
Mar 28 23:48:17 <copumpkin>	and I think he's kinda an asshole
Mar 28 23:48:28 <copumpkin>	but I don't think he's dishonest and he's smart
Mar 28 23:48:33 <tiberiusiv>	look jump on a plane and go to romania
Mar 28 23:48:38 <tiberiusiv>	25 million mircea's
Mar 28 23:48:44 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 95
Mar 28 23:48:48 <smickles>	sounds like a fun place
Mar 28 23:48:48 <gribble>	There are currently 9528.5939 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 896329.793098 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds
Mar 28 23:48:58 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 100
Mar 28 23:48:59 <gribble>	There are currently 26042.659 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2515384.40478 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.7147 seconds
Mar 28 23:49:01 <copumpkin>	he thinks I'm too nice, too
Mar 28 23:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.475 = 1.9 BTC [-]
Mar 28 23:49:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.479 = 1.437 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:49:04 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: right?
Mar 28 23:49:05 <Chaang-Noi>	that grew a lot
Mar 28 23:49:18 *	copumpkin is awfully nice, indeed
Mar 28 23:49:27 <smickles>	and cute to ;)
Mar 28 23:49:34 <copumpkin>	oh, smickles dug up a photo of me
Mar 28 23:49:47 <smickles>	copumpkin: that one on rg's site?
Mar 28 23:49:53 <copumpkin>	oh forgot about that
Mar 28 23:49:58 <copumpkin>	I guess you aren't as much of a creep as you sounded
Mar 28 23:50:08 <smickles>	ha!
Mar 28 23:50:09 <copumpkin>	apparently I look like a "faggot" in that picture
Mar 28 23:50:15 <copumpkin>	according to mad7scientist
Mar 28 23:50:19 <smickles>	orly?
Mar 28 23:50:22 <copumpkin>	yeah
Mar 28 23:50:49 <smickles>	ya know, mad7 was my first, .. so far as btc trades go
Mar 28 23:51:19 <smickles>	i wonder what mad7scientist's opinion of my photo on there is
Mar 28 23:52:06 <copumpkin>	aww, the photobook was taken down
Mar 28 23:52:07 <tiberiusiv>	!seen jurov
Mar 28 23:52:18 <smickles>	copumpkin: nOOOOooOOO!
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Mar 28 23:52:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00419992 = 6.2999 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:52:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5450 @ 0.00419993 = 22.8896 BTC [+]
Mar 28 23:52:31 <smickles>	;;seen jurov
Mar 28 23:52:31 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 9 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <jurov> so armory seems to account for that?
Mar 28 23:52:43 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: too many bots in this chan, right?
Mar 28 23:52:49 <copumpkin>	looks like archive.org got all the good stuff, eh: http://web.archive.org/web/20120910023714/http://photobook.bitvps.com/index.php/
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Mar 28 23:55:07 <smickles>	oh, that must be what sarcasm is
Mar 28 23:55:20 <smickles>	took me a minute to realize it
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Mar 28 23:58:31 <Namworld>	hmm... RG used to ahve a photobook aight...
Mar 28 23:59:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 72 @ 0.0045 = 0.324 BTC [-]
Mar 28 23:59:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 19 @ 0.0045 = 0.0855 BTC [-]
Mar 28 23:59:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 32 @ 0.00442 = 0.1414 BTC [-]
Mar 28 23:59:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 51 @ 0.00442 = 0.2254 BTC [-]
Mar 28 23:59:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [-]
Mar 29 00:01:41 <MJR_III>	you know...mt gox is kinda too big to fail
Mar 29 00:01:49 <ThickAsThieves>	did i miss anything other than rebounding to 90 and half of a bunch of shitty conversations with tiberius?
Mar 29 00:02:03 <MJR_III>	ThickAsThieves: pretty much summed up tonight
Mar 29 00:02:08 <ThickAsThieves>	cool
Mar 29 00:03:07 <MJR_III>	i couldn't see any of the pictures
Mar 29 00:03:11 <smickles>	MJR_III: i don't think they're too ig to fail
Mar 29 00:03:12 *	mircea_popescu tries to remember wtf fights with copumpkin 
Mar 29 00:03:34 <smickles>	huh?
Mar 29 00:03:41 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: well, your idea of a fight tends to be /ignore
Mar 29 00:03:46 <copumpkin>	which I've been at least once
Mar 29 00:03:47 <copumpkin>	:P
Mar 29 00:03:58 <copumpkin>	or my perception of you being in a fight with me
Mar 29 00:04:20 <smickles>	i only remember civil debates
Mar 29 00:04:38 <smickles>	points raised, evidence presented
Mar 29 00:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	but yeah, basically, you're too nice
Mar 29 00:04:46 <mircea_popescu>	which is harmful to the environment
Mar 29 00:04:46 <smickles>	such and soforth
Mar 29 00:05:53 <ThickAsThieves>	I ran numbers on my btc portfolio today, it's officially worth 1.5x my yearly salary at my day job.
Mar 29 00:06:21 <smickles>	it's just play money tho
Mar 29 00:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	you're lucky you have a dayjob
Mar 29 00:06:31 <ThickAsThieves>	just scams and games
Mar 29 00:06:49 <KRS1>	thickasthieves: thats tight
Mar 29 00:06:53 <ThickAsThieves>	why am i lucky?
Mar 29 00:07:32 <copumpkin>	mircea_popescu: hah, my job tries hard to make me unnice!
Mar 29 00:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	what was it, fluffer ?
Mar 29 00:08:05 <copumpkin>	yup
Mar 29 00:08:17 <mircea_popescu>	bitchiest gals in showbiz.
Mar 29 00:08:42 <smickles>	that's gotta be a hard job tho
Mar 29 00:08:48 <KRS1>	not even at the hight of my btc balance did i have enough to hit my yearly salary @$90/btc
Mar 29 00:09:08 <ThickAsThieves>	<mircea_popescu> you're lucky you have a dayjob    <---this flew over my head
Mar 29 00:09:13 <KRS1>	but then again i had a small gpu farm..met the author of Bamt that was kind of cool
Mar 29 00:09:15 <MJR_III>	i am looking into quitting my job now
Mar 29 00:09:28 <copumpkin>	smickles: works for me
Mar 29 00:09:29 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves just general kvetch. "in this economy, you're lucky to have a pickle"
Mar 29 00:09:30 <KRS1>	he lives near me
Mar 29 00:09:35 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Mar 29 00:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	when you'll be jewish you'll understand.
Mar 29 00:09:41 <MJR_III>	hopefully find something in the bitcoin space
Mar 29 00:10:07 <KRS1>	have u guys ever heard of BAMT?
Mar 29 00:10:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought you were implying that 1.5x is not good enough, and to stick to it
Mar 29 00:10:18 <ThickAsThieves>	1.5x is not good enough
Mar 29 00:10:25 <ThickAsThieves>	but i wont be sticking to my day bjob
Mar 29 00:10:57 <ThickAsThieves>	already neglecting it...
Mar 29 00:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	im not a great fan of dayjobs.
Mar 29 00:11:59 <smickles>	i'm not going to stop until i have an estate, some serfs, and a scribe
Mar 29 00:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	wouldn't it be easier to learn to spell ?
Mar 29 00:12:14 <KRS1>	Wouldn't you want minion?
Mar 29 00:12:24 <KRS1>	Or maybe even some sharks with freaking lasers?
Mar 29 00:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	inb4 smickles' revised list : " an estate, some serfs, a scribe and an extensive collection of skulls taken from people who discussed my spelling"
Mar 29 00:13:28 <smickles>	lol
Mar 29 00:14:29 <smickles>	as a future member of the imprisoned aristocracy, i say good day sir
Mar 29 00:14:57 <MJR_III>	smickles: lol
Mar 29 00:15:05 <MJR_III>	when do the new options hit mpex?
Mar 29 00:15:12 <MJR_III>	its the 29th here in nyc...
Mar 29 00:15:26 <smickles>	midnight utc
Mar 29 00:15:49 <MJR_III>	its 4:15 utc
Mar 29 00:15:57 <smickles>	indeed
Mar 29 00:16:01 <MJR_III>	so wouldn't that have been 4 hours ago?
Mar 29 00:16:03 <smickles>	myess
Mar 29 00:16:11 <smickles>	heh, no
Mar 29 00:16:19 <smickles>	this coming midnight
Mar 29 00:16:34 <copumpkin>	what's wrong with smickles's spelling?
Mar 29 00:17:05 <smickles>	copumpkin: i do tend to spell somethings incorectly frome time to time.
Mar 29 00:17:10 <copumpkin>	I see.
Mar 29 00:17:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00382 BTC [+]
Mar 29 00:17:13 <MJR_III>	ah i thought it was midnight of the 29th
Mar 29 00:17:34 <MJR_III>	not midnight of the 30th
Mar 29 00:17:36 <MJR_III>	no big deal
Mar 29 00:17:58 <smickles>	MJR_III: um, well, 23:59:59 on the 29th
Mar 29 00:18:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00382 BTC [+]
Mar 29 00:18:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 49 @ 0.00383 = 0.1877 BTC [+]
Mar 29 00:18:46 <smickles>	that's when the Ts expire, the Ns switch over, and new Ns appear
Mar 29 00:19:49 *	smickles is beginning to think MJR_III thinks UTC is 'further away' than it actually is
Mar 29 00:20:07 <MJR_III>	ah ok
Mar 29 00:20:18 <MJR_III>	isn't it the same as GMT?
Mar 29 00:20:32 <smickles>	practically, yes, technically no
Mar 29 00:21:00 <smickles>	there are actually something like 3 UTCs
Mar 29 00:23:17 <MJR_III>	oh rly
Mar 29 00:23:31 <MJR_III>	has anyone seen or read cosmopolis?
Mar 29 00:23:36 <smickles>	ut0, ut1, ut1r, ut2, ut2r, utc. utc is practically ut1, but the difference is called dut1
Mar 29 00:23:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00065791 = 15.0003 BTC [-]
Mar 29 00:23:46 <MJR_III>	ah
Mar 29 00:23:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00065362 = 1.0458 BTC [-]
Mar 29 00:23:54 <MJR_III>	are these technical differences?
Mar 29 00:24:00 <MJR_III>	hold on, i'm off to wikipedia
Mar 29 00:26:45 <smickles>	MJR_III: "UT1R is a smoothed version of UT1, filtering out periodic variations due to tides. It includes 62 smoothing terms, with periods ranging from 5.6 days to 18.6 years."
Mar 29 00:26:54 <smickles>	you can look forward to stuff like that
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Mar 29 00:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9199 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 00:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.92 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 00:43:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00065985 = 6.6315 BTC [+]
Mar 29 00:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00066065 = 1.2552 BTC [+]
Mar 29 00:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.479 = 0.958 BTC [+]
Mar 29 00:47:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00066265 = 3.3133 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 00:54:10 <ThickAsThieves>	BFL is shipping
Mar 29 00:54:18 <ThickAsThieves>	it seems
Mar 29 00:54:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i cant pin down the source, but https://twitter.com/BFL_News
Mar 29 00:54:48 <ThickAsThieves>	and BFL shoutbox is talking with Josh about it now
Mar 29 00:55:00 <ThickAsThieves>	essentially the power isnt where theyd like
Mar 29 00:55:04 <ThickAsThieves>	but they are shipping anyway
Mar 29 00:55:16 <ThickAsThieves>	and tweaking next batch or sumth
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Mar 29 00:56:59 <splnkr_>	ThickAsThieves: u mean electricity consumption isn't what they'd like, or hashrate isn't what they'd like?
Mar 29 00:57:04 <ThickAsThieves>	elec
Mar 29 00:57:21 <ThickAsThieves>	they say the prob is not in the chip
Mar 29 00:57:45 <splnkr_>	oh so maybe it's like a firmware update they're gonna have to send out or something
Mar 29 00:58:13 <ThickAsThieves>	or a new pcb
Mar 29 00:58:20 <ThickAsThieves>	or new power supply
Mar 29 00:58:22 <ThickAsThieves>	etc
Mar 29 00:59:12 <ThickAsThieves>	cant figure out when they are saying theyll ship these
Mar 29 00:59:34 <splnkr_>	wow, sooooo fun reading the news in the form of reverse chronological tweets
Mar 29 00:59:59 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 29 01:02:25 <splnkr_>	good update tho thx ThickAsThieves
Mar 29 01:03:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84998 BTC [-]
Mar 29 01:04:32 <arij>	reaaally
Mar 29 01:04:46 <arij>	so hashing speed is on target
Mar 29 01:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067064 = 3.3532 BTC [+]
Mar 29 01:04:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00067065 = 20.9243 BTC [+]
Mar 29 01:04:50 <arij>	power is dobule
Mar 29 01:04:52 <arij>	double*
Mar 29 01:05:03 <ThickAsThieves>	is it?
Mar 29 01:05:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i couldnt find the specs
Mar 29 01:05:11 <arij>	oh
Mar 29 01:05:19 <arij>	reading now
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Mar 29 01:06:11 <ThickAsThieves>	"The power is still far less than any other unit, so it's not like it's  something crazy or anything, but it's not 1w/GH "
Mar 29 01:07:45 <arij>	yea
Mar 29 01:07:52 <arij>	We will ship the purchased hashrate regardless of what it ends up costing us.
Mar 29 01:08:08 <arij>	ie. ship two singles that do 30gh each
Mar 29 01:08:33 <arij>	i guess they will have to underclock the chips or something so power isnt to much for the board to handle
Mar 29 01:09:03 <ThickAsThieves>	so avalon gets 60GHs on 600w
Mar 29 01:09:07 <arij>	i think im order number 2017..
Mar 29 01:09:09 *	arij checks
Mar 29 01:09:22 <arij>	bfl says worstcase is 195w
Mar 29 01:09:27 <ThickAsThieves>	63Ghs avalon*
Mar 29 01:09:40 <arij>	#2511
Mar 29 01:09:43 <ThickAsThieves>	and BFL was claiming they were gonna get 60Ghs on 60w?!
Mar 29 01:10:02 <arij>	im cool with it, i just want my unit
Mar 29 01:10:05 <arij>	asap
Mar 29 01:10:27 <ThickAsThieves>	he claims they can do 400 units per day once they start
Mar 29 01:10:32 <ThickAsThieves>	not sure what a unit is
Mar 29 01:10:41 <arij>	i would assume
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Mar 29 01:10:46 <arij>	singles
Mar 29 01:11:03 <arij>	how many singles in a minirig?
Mar 29 01:11:04 <ThickAsThieves>	so thats about 8000 per month
Mar 29 01:11:07 <arij>	woo
Mar 29 01:11:12 <arij>	im within the first 1000
Mar 29 01:11:23 <arij>	im pretty sure orders started at 1600
Mar 29 01:11:42 <Namworld>	Thick: BFL has a much smaller nm chips than Avalon/Asicminer I believe
Mar 29 01:11:52 <arij>	yea they do
Mar 29 01:11:55 <Namworld>	which comes with highly reduced power usage per hashing
Mar 29 01:12:07 <ThickAsThieves>	do you think theyll get it down to 60w tho?
Mar 29 01:12:11 <arij>	no
Mar 29 01:12:19 <arij>	not on the first run anyways
Mar 29 01:12:24 <arij>	possibly in the future
Mar 29 01:12:25 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean in general
Mar 29 01:12:29 <arij>	yea why not
Mar 29 01:13:15 <arij>	i would expect some compensation though.. if everyone else gets 60w units and i get sent a 195w unit because i ordered early :/
Mar 29 01:13:42 <ThickAsThieves>	thats pretty good compensation actually
Mar 29 01:13:48 <arij>	what is?
Mar 29 01:13:51 <arij>	some extra speed?
Mar 29 01:13:51 <ThickAsThieves>	you GET it earlier too ;)
Mar 29 01:13:54 <arij>	lol
Mar 29 01:14:01 <arij>	those btc i spent though...
Mar 29 01:14:03 <arij>	:(
Mar 29 01:14:12 <arij>	worth a lot now
Mar 29 01:14:43 <arij>	like i said earlier im cool with it all, ill be happy just to get my asic soon
Mar 29 01:14:48 <ThickAsThieves>	so whats the napkin math for nethash gained
Mar 29 01:15:54 <arij>	im not sure
Mar 29 01:16:09 <arij>	some one did it on the forums.. not sure where that post is though
Mar 29 01:16:30 <Chaang-Noi>	arji youin the first few orders?
Mar 29 01:16:46 <arij>	#2511
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Mar 29 01:16:54 <Chaang-Noi>	what was the first asic order?
Mar 29 01:16:57 <arij>	1600
Mar 29 01:17:09 <arij>	and im sure some of those orders in between are expired
Mar 29 01:17:10 <Chaang-Noi>	oh so you mightn ot get in the first batch then
Mar 29 01:17:13 <ThickAsThieves>	so maybe say 6800 untis shipped in april, which we'll shave it down to 5000 to subract for BFL derpness
Mar 29 01:17:15 <arij>	or not paid for
Mar 29 01:17:16 <Chaang-Noi>	oh hmm
Mar 29 01:17:26 <arij>	15min bitpay :p
Mar 29 01:17:40 <ThickAsThieves>	408000Ghs
Mar 29 01:17:52 *	arij wonders if anyone would buy my pre-order
Mar 29 01:18:20 <Chaang-Noi>	TAT that is not how my maths worked out :/
Mar 29 01:18:32 <Chaang-Noi>	how did you get that number???
Mar 29 01:18:40 <Chaang-Noi>	mine was 25 THs ish
Mar 29 01:18:45 <Chaang-Noi>	not 400
Mar 29 01:19:04 <ThickAsThieves>	they claim they can ship 400 "units" a day
Mar 29 01:19:07 <Chaang-Noi>	you know they only have 500 chips right?
Mar 29 01:19:28 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume more wafers have been bumped by next week no?
Mar 29 01:19:33 <Chaang-Noi>	well maybe they can, but they will run out of chips before long
Mar 29 01:19:40 <Chaang-Noi>	that is all of them
Mar 29 01:19:50 <Chaang-Noi>	they have to then make a new run
Mar 29 01:19:53 <ThickAsThieves>	they had like 6 wafers on order
Mar 29 01:19:58 <Chaang-Noi>	they dont have the 5000 now, that was the order size
Mar 29 01:20:15 <ThickAsThieves>	you know what
Mar 29 01:20:15 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, im not sure when they will get them, but they only ahve 5k now
Mar 29 01:20:26 <ThickAsThieves>	why are these fucking companies so horrible at communications
Mar 29 01:20:36 <Chaang-Noi>	they dont want to share bad news?
Mar 29 01:20:52 <Chaang-Noi>	wow back over 90
Mar 29 01:20:53 <arij>	wait they have 500 chips on hand or 5000 chips
Mar 29 01:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21150 @ 0.00067065 = 14.1842 BTC [+]
Mar 29 01:21:11 <Chaang-Noi>	5k chips in the first batch is what i thought
Mar 29 01:21:14 <arij>	ok
Mar 29 01:21:16 <arij>	yea
Mar 29 01:21:21 <Chaang-Noi>	and 1 chip is like 3 ghs or someting small
Mar 29 01:21:24 <arij>	im in that first batch :D
Mar 29 01:21:38 <Chaang-Noi>	it takes like 20 chips to make the 60 ghs thing
Mar 29 01:21:43 <arij>	are you sure?
Mar 29 01:21:47 <arij>	i thought it was 8
Mar 29 01:21:58 <ThickAsThieves>	not 20
Mar 29 01:22:03 <Chaang-Noi>	might be 8,
Mar 29 01:22:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i think more like 8
Mar 29 01:22:15 <Chaang-Noi>	but still some orders are huge...
Mar 29 01:22:30 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda expect only under #2000 to get filled, if that
Mar 29 01:22:43 <arij>	na
Mar 29 01:23:11 <Chaang-Noi>	i only expect 250 orders to get filled
Mar 29 01:23:37 <arij>	250 orders=250 singles?
Mar 29 01:23:50 <Chaang-Noi>	250 is an average of 20 chips per order
Mar 29 01:24:00 <Chaang-Noi>	iknow a guy who ordered 4 of the big ass ones in the first 100 orders
Mar 29 01:24:00 <arij>	i see
Mar 29 01:24:17 <arij>	well there is that 1/3 thing to
Mar 29 01:24:18 <ThickAsThieves>	someone just said BFL has 75k chips for 1st 3 batches
Mar 29 01:24:30 <arij>	whats inthe first batch
Mar 29 01:24:34 <Chaang-Noi>	that might be true, but first batch is 5k
Mar 29 01:24:40 <arij>	or is it 15k
Mar 29 01:24:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i might be wrong but i understood it to be 5k in the first batch
Mar 29 01:24:52 <arij>	hmm
Mar 29 01:25:04 <Chaang-Noi>	should have been 6k but they derped and made it 5k
Mar 29 01:25:08 <arij>	right
Mar 29 01:25:22 <Chaang-Noi>	andi heard the bfl staff is taking 105 of first batch to mine with, dont have a cource
Mar 29 01:25:24 <Chaang-Noi>	source
Mar 29 01:26:21 <arij>	ok
Mar 29 01:26:28 <arij>	way to crush my dreams
Mar 29 01:27:02 <ThickAsThieves>	they have 11 wafers in hand
Mar 29 01:27:08 <ThickAsThieves>	rest on order
Mar 29 01:27:21 <arij>	each wafer= how many chips?
Mar 29 01:27:26 <arij>	please say 5k
Mar 29 01:27:27 <ThickAsThieves>	1000
Mar 29 01:27:28 <arij>	:)
Mar 29 01:27:31 <arij>	ok
Mar 29 01:27:33 <arij>	11k chips
Mar 29 01:27:37 <ThickAsThieves>	this is all from shoutbox
Mar 29 01:27:40 <ThickAsThieves>	so unofficial
Mar 29 01:27:48 <arij>	thats fine
Mar 29 01:27:55 <arij>	with 11k chips
Mar 29 01:28:10 <arij>	ill be in the first batch
Mar 29 01:28:13 <arij>	i know it :)
Mar 29 01:29:22 <Chaang-Noi>	that is if they ever ship:)
Mar 29 01:29:27 <ThickAsThieves>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-2.html#post20942
Mar 29 01:30:47 <arij>	they wil
Mar 29 01:30:50 <arij>	at this point
Mar 29 01:30:55 <taub>	oh, and back at 92 we are
Mar 29 01:31:00 <arij>	they cant keep going
Mar 29 01:31:02 <arij>	if its all fake
Mar 29 01:32:48 <Chaang-Noi>	back at 92?
Mar 29 01:33:09 <taub>	well almost it snapped back to 92 after the big downmove
Mar 29 01:33:27 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, that sell off did no harm
Mar 29 01:33:44 <ThickAsThieves>	this is when the buying started again the past few days
Mar 29 01:33:54 <ThickAsThieves>	this hour i mean
Mar 29 01:34:21 <Chaang-Noi>	early in europe
Mar 29 01:36:09 <Chaang-Noi>	gave my wife 370 btc today, will be fun to see how she does with them
Mar 29 01:36:45 <arij>	O_O
Mar 29 01:36:47 <arij>	adopt me
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Mar 29 01:37:55 <Chaang-Noi>	lol are you a hot asian girl?
Mar 29 01:38:01 <arij>	no :(
Mar 29 01:38:09 <Chaang-Noi>	sorry:)
Mar 29 01:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00067065 = 4.1245 BTC [+]
Mar 29 01:42:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.849979 = 8.4998 BTC [-]
Mar 29 01:43:01 <Chaang-Noi>	i likethat AM price
Mar 29 01:43:14 <Chaang-Noi>	glad i got more at .7
Mar 29 01:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067858 = 3.3929 BTC [+]
Mar 29 01:45:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13479 BTC [+]
Mar 29 01:46:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849979 BTC [-]
Mar 29 01:46:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Mar 29 01:47:08 <Chaang-Noi>	$10 for 46 ghs decent?
Mar 29 01:47:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 41 @ 0.009994 = 0.4098 BTC [+]
Mar 29 01:47:37 <arij>	where can you get 46gh for $10
Mar 29 01:47:38 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck i mean mhs
Mar 29 01:47:41 <arij>	oh
Mar 29 01:47:54 <Namworld>	Seems expensive
Mar 29 01:48:03 <Chaang-Noi>	so that is like 1000 then for 46 mhs
Mar 29 01:48:10 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean ghs
Mar 29 01:48:22 <arij>	could be worst....
Mar 29 01:48:26 <Chaang-Noi>	or is ti $10,000 ?>
Mar 29 01:48:29 <Namworld>	10 000
Mar 29 01:48:32 <arij>	nvm
Mar 29 01:48:36 <arij>	cant be worst
Mar 29 01:48:38 <Namworld>	1k x 10$
Mar 29 01:48:48 <Namworld>	nay?
Mar 29 01:49:00 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah... but $10,000 for in hand 64 gh/s now ... hmmm
Mar 29 01:49:16 <arij>	46...
Mar 29 01:49:20 <arij>	or 64 ?
Mar 29 01:49:23 <arij>	you said both
Mar 29 01:49:29 <Chaang-Noi>	46, oh man, i need coffee
Mar 29 01:49:33 <arij>	lol
Mar 29 01:49:56 <Chaang-Noi>	my minds is all over the place, doingto much at one time
Mar 29 01:50:49 <Chaang-Noi>	at current difficulty i would break even at 1 month
Mar 29 01:51:19 <Chaang-Noi>	at 10x that difficutly it would take 10 months
Mar 29 01:51:24 <Chaang-Noi>	so it seems like a fair price no?
Mar 29 01:51:26 <arij>	in hand.. like right now?
Mar 29 01:51:30 <arij>	right right now
Mar 29 01:51:42 <Chaang-Noi>	like first bfl to ship
Mar 29 01:52:04 <Chaang-Noi>	btw 92 on btc again
Mar 29 01:52:11 <arij>	its either 30gh/s or 60gh/s then
Mar 29 01:52:14 <arij>	i think
Mar 29 01:52:20 <Chaang-Noi>	its a share of a club
Mar 29 01:52:23 <arij>	ah
Mar 29 01:52:35 <Chaang-Noi>	they have like the 15th order and its a big one
Mar 29 01:52:59 <arij>	it could work.. kind of risky imo
Mar 29 01:53:18 <arij>	the diff is going to go up fast i think
Mar 29 01:54:13 <Chaang-Noi>	think the average will be up 1000% or less in the next 10 months?
Mar 29 01:54:34 <arij>	i dont know
Mar 29 01:54:46 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, im going to buy but im not going all in :)
Mar 29 01:55:04 <arij>	maybe i can get in on it?.. can you make it happen ;)
Mar 29 01:55:29 <Chaang-Noi>	im buying the olny slot for sale, sorry man
Mar 29 01:55:36 <arij>	bummer
Mar 29 01:55:51 <Chaang-Noi>	its an old guy who needs cash now so has to sell it
Mar 29 01:56:03 <Chaang-Noi>	not old, i mean one of the first guys who ordered like a year ago
Mar 29 01:56:07 <arij>	kool
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Mar 29 02:01:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Mar 29 02:01:47 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 29 02:01:48 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 29 02:01:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.96000, Best ask: 91.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54000, Last trade: 90.96000, 24 hour volume: 158643.07292808, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.24783
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Mar 29 02:07:04 <Chaang-Noi>	toffoo where are they traded if not butfunder?
Mar 29 02:07:43 <toffoo>	not traded at the moment, like gigavps  .. old GLBSE holdover
Mar 29 02:08:14 <Chaang-Noi>	boo, i cant buy anything lol
Mar 29 02:10:20 <toffoo>	looking to get long hash bonds right before the difficulty spike?!?
Mar 29 02:13:54 <Chaang-Noi>	hmmm i forget they are bonds
Mar 29 02:14:01 <Chaang-Noi>	i thought i was buying into a company
Mar 29 02:14:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont want bonds...
Mar 29 02:14:51 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks for reminding me before i did something stupid
Mar 29 02:15:13 <Chaang-Noi>	but even so, at the right price, its good
Mar 29 02:15:43 <bgupta>	http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2013/03/bitcoin-now-billion-dollar-industry/63667/
Mar 29 02:15:58 <bgupta>	and
Mar 29 02:15:59 <bgupta>	http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57576928-93/bitcoin-hits-record-exchange-values-with-cyprus-banking-crisis/
Mar 29 02:16:31 <Chaang-Noi>	nice
Mar 29 02:16:57 <Chaang-Noi>	bought my wife a nice blue saphire ring cuz btc went ovber the 1 billion mark yesterday:)
Mar 29 02:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00067858 = 2.7482 BTC [+]
Mar 29 02:19:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00066551 = 12.3785 BTC [-]
Mar 29 02:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10089 @ 0.00066265 = 6.6855 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 02:31:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.849979 = 8.4998 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 02:38:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.849979 = 8.4998 BTC [+]
Mar 29 02:38:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.84998 = 5.9499 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 02:53:22 <Chaang-Noi>	982 wont hodl:)
Mar 29 02:53:24 <Chaang-Noi>	92*
Mar 29 02:54:09 <bgupta>	have options expired yet?
Mar 29 02:54:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3452 BTC [-]
Mar 29 02:54:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i honestly dont know
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Mar 29 02:55:04 <bgupta>	Just sayin http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/maxpain.asp
Mar 29 02:55:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3451 BTC [-]
Mar 29 02:56:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.34501 = 1.7251 BTC [-]
Mar 29 02:56:00 <bgupta>	would be interesting to claculate max pain point.
Mar 29 02:56:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i think most calls are going to be in the money
Mar 29 02:56:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.48 BTC [-]
Mar 29 02:56:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i think the average in the money is 85 or less
Mar 29 02:56:34 <Chaang-Noi>	and we are well over that
Mar 29 02:56:46 <bgupta>	need to figure in puts too...
Mar 29 02:56:50 <Chaang-Noi>	going to be a bad bad month for the people who loaned money for the options
Mar 29 02:57:03 <Chaang-Noi>	yes, pretty srue all puts are out of the money
Mar 29 02:57:08 <Chaang-Noi>	but from what i have seen, not many sold
Mar 29 02:57:34 <bgupta>	huh. guess this is different since it's not profesional option writers...
Mar 29 02:58:00 <Chaang-Noi>	you can write your own
Mar 29 02:58:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.84 = 2.52 BTC [-]
Mar 29 02:58:08 <Chaang-Noi>	(as i understand it)
Mar 29 02:58:37 <bgupta>	well yeah.. but in other fiat markets.. people specilize..
Mar 29 02:58:58 <Chaang-Noi>	we are not there just yet:)
Mar 29 02:59:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.37 = 3.7 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 03:05:10 <bgupta>	what did you mean by "Chaang-Noi: going to be a bad bad month for the people who loaned money for the options"?
Mar 29 03:07:41 <Chaang-Noi>	on mpex as far as i understand it, there are people who loan money to the options bot, they dont get the money back if the bot does not do well
Mar 29 03:07:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i think the bot is massive fail
Mar 29 03:07:59 <bgupta>	it's a bot?
Mar 29 03:08:02 <Chaang-Noi>	however i might not understand this correctly and i have no real data to back it up
Mar 29 03:08:09 <Chaang-Noi>	i think its a bot AND people
Mar 29 03:08:21 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Mar 29 03:08:23 <Chaang-Noi>	so dont quote me or anything, ask mp or someone else
Mar 29 03:08:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.00000, Best ask: 92.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 92.50000, 24 hour volume: 158557.24458985, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.24065
Mar 29 03:08:33 <Bowjob>	lol back to normal
Mar 29 03:08:37 <Chaang-Noi>	we are clear to 94
Mar 29 03:08:43 <Bowjob>	to 10,000!
Mar 29 03:08:53 <Chaang-Noi>	god damn its hot
Mar 29 03:08:56 <Bowjob>	max keiser says 10,000 by next year
Mar 29 03:08:57 <Bowjob>	lawl
Mar 29 03:09:33 <Chaang-Noi>	what happens if 1% of europe puts in 1% of their cash into btc?     10,000 will be way to low
Mar 29 03:10:16 <Bowjob>	right. for us to be truly the new wealthy elite, its gonna be more than that
Mar 29 03:10:35 <Bowjob>	I'll be mining the shit out of them. im itchin
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Mar 29 03:15:28 <bgupta>	any idea how much an asicminer board will go for? according to my guestimates, the next 50TH will consist of ~38 boards/frames, each of which produce about 1.3TH. Chaang-Noi assuming similar MH pricing as BFL 1st batch, what would that look like in btc?
Mar 29 03:16:25 <bgupta>	trying to guesstimate how much revenue they could get from those boards..
Mar 29 03:16:39 <bgupta>	if they decided to sell them all.
Mar 29 03:21:10 <bgupta>	looking at 1.69btc/GH I think?
Mar 29 03:22:41 <bgupta>	so if the sold the boards at the same price as 1g BFL are selling for now, then they could raise approx. 0.21btc/share?? Seem right?
Mar 29 03:23:12 <bgupta>	but that would kinda be stupid as they'd have no real TH left to compete.
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Mar 29 03:25:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.84 = 1.68 BTC [-]
Mar 29 03:28:10 <Chaang-Noi>	just back let me think
Mar 29 03:28:35 <Chaang-Noi>	bgupta is really depends on when they ship
Mar 29 03:29:38 <Chaang-Noi>	and they will only sell if they cant use them to mine, cuz power or 50% fears
Mar 29 03:31:11 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 100
Mar 29 03:31:16 <gribble>	There are currently 23821.848 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2308469.25001 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0027 seconds
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Mar 29 03:31:56 <Bowjob_>	another delay
Mar 29 03:32:01 <Bowjob_>	for bfl
Mar 29 03:32:04 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Mar 29 03:32:06 <Chaang-Noi>	link?
Mar 29 03:32:15 <Chaang-Noi>	did you read josh just post they are mining?
Mar 29 03:32:43 <Bowjob_>	"hopefully" he uses that word  a lot
Mar 29 03:32:52 <Bowjob_>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160586.0
Mar 29 03:33:59 <Bowjob_>	That means Josh should perform seppuku then
Mar 29 03:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [-]
Mar 29 03:37:02 <Chaang-Noi>	well looks like my betting on them to ship was a fail
Mar 29 03:39:58 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 75
Mar 29 03:40:11 <gribble>	There are currently 51706.997 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 4100547.16563 USD in total. | Data vintage: 534.1481 seconds
Mar 29 03:40:27 <Chaang-Noi>	50k btc to 75, nice
Mar 29 03:40:36 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 200
Mar 29 03:40:40 <gribble>	There are currently 42831.086 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 4832757.22983 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0035 seconds
Mar 29 03:40:57 <Chaang-Noi>	not even 50k for sale to 200, glad im a perma bull
Mar 29 03:41:09 <Bowjob_>	aye
Mar 29 03:44:05 <Bowjob_>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160586.msg1698317#msg1698317
Mar 29 03:45:18 <Chaang-Noi>	loool
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Mar 29 03:55:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 4 @ 2.48 = 9.92 BTC [-]
Mar 29 03:56:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @ 2.49 = 4.98 BTC [+]
Mar 29 03:56:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.84989 = 9.3488 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 03:59:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.133 = 0.532 BTC [-]
Mar 29 03:59:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8701 @ 0.00068166 = 5.9311 BTC [+]
Mar 29 03:59:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1099 @ 0.00066265 = 0.7283 BTC [-]
Mar 29 04:02:47 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 29 04:02:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 91.19659, Best ask: 91.36000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16341, Last trade: 91.19659, 24 hour volume: 159520.81195584, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.26893
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Mar 29 04:06:18 <ColdHardMetal>	;;bc,mktcap
Mar 29 04:06:21 <gribble>	1000437182.33
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Mar 29 04:22:37 <Uhh_Duh>	WOW! That's a lot of people in here!
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Mar 29 04:30:26 <Namworld>	Well BTC assets are quite active
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Mar 29 05:13:06 <jurov>	PUBIC ANNOUNCEMENT: since BFL is shipping, https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-O will probably get more expensive
Mar 29 05:13:15 <jurov>	buy till it lasts ;)
Mar 29 05:19:54 <Namworld>	I'm not sure what a pubic announcement is supposed to be, but it doesn't sounds so good.
Mar 29 05:20:56 <Namworld>	Well you really picked the right letter to omit in a typo on that one.
Mar 29 05:22:08 <jurov>	it needs to be noticed in this sleepy hour xD
Mar 29 05:22:32 <Namworld>	I think that kind of announcement is for another industry
Mar 29 05:22:51 <jurov>	we have plenty of such industry around
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Mar 29 05:30:05 <ZedsterX>	But the problem is BFL is not shipping
Mar 29 05:33:07 <ZedsterX>	they are threatening but I am bulletproof against their threats
Mar 29 05:52:52 <tiberiusiv>	BFL is shipping?
Mar 29 05:53:27 <tiberiusiv>	threatening what zedsterx
Mar 29 05:53:37 <ZedsterX>	one sec
Mar 29 05:53:51 <ZedsterX>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-2.html#post20942
Mar 29 05:53:56 <ZedsterX>	there ya go
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Mar 29 05:54:29 <ZedsterX>	they say next if you want units that consume more power than advertised
Mar 29 05:54:40 <ZedsterX>	next week*
Mar 29 05:54:53 <tiberiusiv>	yes but what are they threatening
Mar 29 05:55:07 <ZedsterX>	heheh to ship next week :)
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Mar 29 06:18:02 <Chaang-Noi>	looks like the direction is up
Mar 29 06:18:34 <Chaang-Noi>	even if strong resistance
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Mar 29 06:23:41 <ZedsterX>	it only went down because i made a big BTC buy yesterday (big for me) :)
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Mar 29 06:34:15 <Chaang-Noi>	bot down?
Mar 29 06:34:24 <Chaang-Noi>	!assbot goat?
Mar 29 06:34:33 <Chaang-Noi>	guess so
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Mar 29 06:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.46 = 4.6 BTC [+]
Mar 29 06:47:05 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 29 06:47:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.11001, Best ask: 92.12000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 92.11000, 24 hour volume: 152310.28371202, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.40100, 24 hour vwap: 86.94154
Mar 29 06:47:14 <bitesak>	;;asks 99.9
Mar 29 06:47:17 <gribble>	There are currently 21247.273 bitcoins offered at or under 99.9 USD, worth 2047335.10846 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0022 seconds
Mar 29 06:47:30 <bitesak>	;;asks 199.99
Mar 29 06:47:30 <gribble>	There are currently 43463.649 bitcoins offered at or under 199.99 USD, worth 4810586.32033 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.1926 seconds
Mar 29 06:47:39 <wao>	hm
Mar 29 06:47:43 <wao>	;;asks 85
Mar 29 06:47:44 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.4458 seconds
Mar 29 06:47:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00067795 = 6.8812 BTC [+]
Mar 29 06:47:52 <wao>	;;asks 90
Mar 29 06:47:53 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 35.8955 seconds
Mar 29 06:47:57 <wao>	;;asks 92
Mar 29 06:47:58 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 92.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.4714 seconds
Mar 29 06:48:00 <wao>	;;asks 94
Mar 29 06:48:01 <gribble>	There are currently 3129.9416 bitcoins offered at or under 94.0 USD, worth 292767.363359 USD in total. | Data vintage: 43.8655 seconds
Mar 29 06:48:05 <wao>	;;asks 93
Mar 29 06:48:05 <gribble>	There are currently 700.17306 bitcoins offered at or under 93.0 USD, worth 65073.2715403 USD in total. | Data vintage: 47.9901 seconds
Mar 29 06:48:35 <bitesak>	seems like a tipping point
Mar 29 06:56:04 <bitesak>	my pendulum indicates 100 will be reached before Wednesday :)
Mar 29 07:03:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11912 @ 0.00067795 = 8.0757 BTC [+]
Mar 29 07:03:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5688 @ 0.00068136 = 3.8756 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 07:09:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4981 @ 0.00068136 = 3.3939 BTC [+]
Mar 29 07:09:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1519 @ 0.00068158 = 1.0353 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 07:30:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00701 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 07:50:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00068158 = 6.475 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 08:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14737 @ 0.00067486 = 9.9454 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 08:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	gooood mornin'
Mar 29 08:25:04 <ThickAsThieves>	Mornin!
Mar 29 08:28:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1373 @ 0.00375993 = 5.1624 BTC [-]
Mar 29 08:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/smoke-signals-special-eurogroup-will-stop-capital-flight-now/
Mar 29 08:28:50 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty interesting, the santander stuff.
Mar 29 08:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	’1 b) Your Money
Mar 29 08:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	Any money held for you in an account with Santander UK plc will be held in its capacity as a bank and not as a trustee. In accordance with FSA requirements we areobliged to notify you that the client money rules on money do notapply to a Banking Consolidation Directive (BCD)  in relation to deposits within the meaning of the BCD held by that institution. As a result, the money will not be held within the client money r
Mar 29 08:29:18 <mircea_popescu>	ules of the FSA.’
Mar 29 08:29:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.004 = 0.064 BTC [-]
Mar 29 08:31:39 <Namworld>	ok... this whole thing is getting ridiculous...
Mar 29 08:32:01 <ThickAsThieves>	a little over my head, out of my country, but are they simply saying "fyi, your money ain't really safe"
Mar 29 08:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	that's one word for it.
Mar 29 08:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves pretty much.
Mar 29 08:32:28 <mircea_popescu>	the euro is coming undone.
Mar 29 08:32:58 <ThickAsThieves>	were you against the euro/zone concept?
Mar 29 08:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Mar 29 08:35:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought it was a neat idea, but didnt really follow the details at all
Mar 29 08:35:13 <ThickAsThieves>	shit certainly seems to hitting the fan though
Mar 29 08:36:29 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was pretty much a sensible move, back then
Mar 29 08:37:05 <ThickAsThieves>	what would happen if bitcoin really became a MAJOR safe haven for money in a short time, and then somehow, all bitcoins disappeared and/or the blockchain became irreparablely corrupted? I guess fiat would skyrocket in value?
Mar 29 08:37:14 <mircea_popescu>	nah
Mar 29 08:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	see, thing is : bitcoin's value was pretty huge compared to fiat (all fiat together)
Mar 29 08:38:14 <mircea_popescu>	consequently, as fiat's shortcomings become apparent bitcoin's *price* skyrockets.
Mar 29 08:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	conversely, fiat has absolutely no value. consequently, as bitcoin's shortcomings bercome apparent there's nothing pushing the price up.
Mar 29 08:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	obviously if you stick to valuing things in bitcoin they'll increase apparently, but only because bitcoin itself is going down
Mar 29 08:39:48 <ThickAsThieves>	and if bitcoin disappeared and zapped billions in $ away?
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Mar 29 08:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	there'd be a lot of depression.
Mar 29 08:41:52 <mircea_popescu>	people like me, who are currently productively employed, would jsut go fuck this and retire to private life
Mar 29 08:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	on the net this'll make for some sexually satisfied women and a general slowdown of economic activity.
Mar 29 08:42:36 <ThickAsThieves>	and fiat holders saying nya nya told you so
Mar 29 08:42:50 <mircea_popescu>	ya but who cares about that ?
Mar 29 08:43:05 <ThickAsThieves>	just bring it home to my first statement
Mar 29 08:43:09 <ThickAsThieves>	bringing
Mar 29 08:43:20 <ThickAsThieves>	" I guess fiat would skyrocket in value?"
Mar 29 08:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's like the chickens on the conveyor belt telling the chickens attempting to escape that "they can't"
Mar 29 08:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	and then going nya nya. dude... you're STILL on the conveyor belt
Mar 29 08:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	see you at kfc.
Mar 29 08:43:37 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Mar 29 08:44:28 <ThickAsThieves>	it's an interesting notion if you think of bitcoin as an ultimate anarchistic plot to reset the economy
Mar 29 08:44:34 <ThickAsThieves>	get em all in
Mar 29 08:44:40 <ThickAsThieves>	hit reset
Mar 29 08:44:44 <ThickAsThieves>	now let's begin
Mar 29 08:44:51 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think how it really works tho.
Mar 29 08:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... this makes for good action flicks, because a rule of storytelling is to concentrate attention
Mar 29 08:45:08 <ThickAsThieves>	probly not
Mar 29 08:45:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1074 BTC [-]
Mar 29 08:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	and a big red button does that well.
Mar 29 08:45:18 <mircea_popescu>	however, it's not how reality works.
Mar 29 08:45:24 <ThickAsThieves>	thats is indeed how i pictured it
Mar 29 08:45:28 <ThickAsThieves>	as a movie plot
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Mar 29 08:46:32 <ThickAsThieves>	people do love the fantasy of living in post-apocalyptic situations
Mar 29 08:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, as a fantasy im sure its great.
Mar 29 08:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	if they indeed wanted to do it tho, they'd have went to haiti after the quake
Mar 29 08:47:05 <Namworld>	Well after a month of good trades, it's time for me to go. I'll be retiring for the weekend to visit family as well as friends.
Mar 29 08:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	to tokyo after the tsunami
Mar 29 08:47:13 <mircea_popescu>	and in general, plenty of places to go nobody's going
Mar 29 08:47:15 <ThickAsThieves>	hf Nam
Mar 29 08:47:17 <Namworld>	Goodbye!
Mar 29 08:47:19 <mircea_popescu>	laters
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Mar 29 08:47:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i think the fantasy isnt the same as that tho
Mar 29 08:48:11 <ThickAsThieves>	it's more of being a wayfarer in an unknown world
Mar 29 08:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	that ideally has internet for your ipad.
Mar 29 08:48:30 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 29 08:48:34 <mircea_popescu>	they don;'t dop that, either.
Mar 29 08:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	look at people like tiberiusiv, ranting about how bad the world is. there's about one million towns on the globe nobody's heard of
Mar 29 08:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	and yet very few people are wayfaring.
Mar 29 08:49:11 <ThickAsThieves>	tahts what i was just gonna say
Mar 29 08:49:14 <mircea_popescu>	i met a few when i was doing that myself, so it's certainly not "nobody"
Mar 29 08:49:16 <ThickAsThieves>	dont need apocalypse
Mar 29 08:49:21 <ThickAsThieves>	just move to asia
Mar 29 08:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	but it IS a superminority.
Mar 29 08:49:27 <ThickAsThieves>	without preparing
Mar 29 08:49:28 <ThickAsThieves>	or such
Mar 29 08:53:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1163 @ 0.00067486 = 0.7849 BTC [-]
Mar 29 08:53:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28814 @ 0.00066629 = 19.1985 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 08:58:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.848 BTC [-]
Mar 29 09:01:43 <pizzaman1337>	hey guys, you want to hear a joke?
Mar 29 09:01:45 <pizzaman1337>	banks
Mar 29 09:01:46 <pizzaman1337>	ha
Mar 29 09:03:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 29 09:04:07 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
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Mar 29 09:04:43 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.classiccarclubphuket.com/JoeSales/Porsche997Turbo.html    why the fuck is this care being sold at $350,000 usd?
Mar 29 09:04:54 <Chaang-Noi>	its like a $70k at best ?
Mar 29 09:09:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00411 BTC [-]
Mar 29 09:09:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.0041 = 0.082 BTC [-]
Mar 29 09:09:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 84 @ 0.00405 = 0.3402 BTC [-]
Mar 29 09:09:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.004 = 0.1 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 09:21:17 <Chaang-Noi>	weekend dip starting early?
Mar 29 09:24:09 <jurov>	Chaang-Noi: wat? you expect second round?
Mar 29 09:24:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00067582 = 5.4741 BTC [+]
Mar 29 09:26:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 29 09:26:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.97000, Best ask: 89.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 89.00000, 24 hour volume: 150244.81237909, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.99000, 24 hour vwap: 86.73526
Mar 29 09:26:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7383 @ 0.00066629 = 4.9192 BTC [-]
Mar 29 09:29:19 <Chaang-Noi>	jurov i think some day traders are getting out of it for the long weekend
Mar 29 09:29:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i think it will be bumpy
Mar 29 09:29:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda expect next tuesday to smash the 100 assuming we dont massivly correct before then
Mar 29 09:30:03 <Chaang-Noi>	but really, its just guesses
Mar 29 09:31:07 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 29 09:31:09 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 228588 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1235 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 19 hours, 45 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7174798.69072 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.1533
Mar 29 09:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	so basically you expect it to go up unless it goes down ?
Mar 29 09:32:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.847 BTC [-]
Mar 29 09:33:22 <jurov>	it also depends how many unexercised mpoe calls are there..having potential to flood market with cash
Mar 29 09:33:28 <jurov>	toonight
Mar 29 09:34:59 <mircea_popescu>	i keep being the bad news of the rally ;/
Mar 29 09:35:11 <jurov>	haha now i seriously consider to pay deprived to make me such analysis
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Mar 29 09:36:16 <Chaang-Noi>	mp i kind think it will go up after it goes down, as long as the down is not too far down
Mar 29 09:36:19 <jurov>	oh noes, tibby. getting afk to prevent another wasted afternoon xD
Mar 29 09:36:27 <Chaang-Noi>	if we go under 75 who knowz
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Mar 29 09:40:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00067582 = 2.6357 BTC [+]
Mar 29 09:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	yeah... it just sounds funny
Mar 29 09:40:10 <mircea_popescu>	truth of the matter is nobody has a fucking clue where we're headed.
Mar 29 09:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	which is exciting, i grant you that.
Mar 29 09:40:34 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i said i was guessing, just what my gut tells me what will happen :/
Mar 29 09:40:47 <Chaang-Noi>	it is more often than not correct (assuming im not trading)
Mar 29 09:41:05 <tiberiusiv>	considering maybe 5-10% of coins are actually moving around
Mar 29 09:41:08 <tiberiusiv>	and the rest idle
Mar 29 09:41:14 <tiberiusiv>	downside is huge
Mar 29 09:41:26 <Chaang-Noi>	tiberslav!
Mar 29 09:41:34 <tiberiusiv>	chaang-gook
Mar 29 09:41:44 <Chaang-Noi>	howz my fav nigerian?
Mar 29 09:46:15 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 29 09:46:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.81000, Best ask: 89.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 89.80000, 24 hour volume: 154276.06858765, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.99000, 24 hour vwap: 86.73206
Mar 29 09:47:50 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 29 09:47:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006 / 0.00065732 / 0.00068166 (466403 shares, 306.58 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.00066258 / 0.00071369 (2014556 shares, 1,334.81 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.00073358 / 0.00078628 (17129444 shares, 12,565.98 BTC)
Mar 29 09:48:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00067705 = 4.4347 BTC [+]
Mar 29 09:48:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16299 @ 0.00066629 = 10.8599 BTC [-]
Mar 29 09:48:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00066291 = 3.5134 BTC [-]
Mar 29 09:48:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5370 @ 0.00066265 = 3.5584 BTC [-]
Mar 29 09:49:29 <thestringpuller>	nice
Mar 29 09:50:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0075 BTC [+]
Mar 29 09:50:32 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 29 09:50:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.90001, Best ask: 88.91605, Bid-ask spread: 0.01604, Last trade: 88.90001, 24 hour volume: 154552.79615475, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.99000, 24 hour vwap: 86.73328
Mar 29 09:52:04 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Mar 29 09:52:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.80000000 / 1.88799 / 1.92000000 (10 shares, 18.87990000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.72409607 / 2.00000000 (178 shares, 306.88910091 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.86591584 / 17.25000000 (704 shares, 1313.60475269 BTC)
Mar 29 10:03:08 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 29 10:03:09 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 36 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <smickles> you can look forward to stuff like that
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Mar 29 10:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1698822#msg1698822
Mar 29 10:11:33 <mircea_popescu>	kinda interesting conversation going.
Mar 29 10:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4599999 = 4.6 BTC [-]
Mar 29 10:13:00 <ThickAsThieves>	that guy is saying what we're all thinking
Mar 29 10:13:45 <ThickAsThieves>	would be nice if evoorhees, yknow, grew his business
Mar 29 10:13:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4098 @ 0.00419993 = 17.2113 BTC [+]
Mar 29 10:13:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1202 @ 0.00419995 = 5.0483 BTC [+]
Mar 29 10:16:43 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.pcworld.com/article/2032420/major-bitcoin-exchange-slammed-with-denial-of-service-attack-as-the-currency-surges.html
Mar 29 10:17:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 29 10:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	they didn't cover mpex being ddosed
Mar 29 10:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	they are covering mtgox.
Mar 29 10:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it's difficult to figure out what's important as a journalist.
Mar 29 10:18:18 <tiberiusiv>	nobody cares about mpex
Mar 29 10:19:18 <Chaang-Noi>	that is what the said about eminum
Mar 29 10:20:08 <jcpham>	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-28/bitcoin-may-be-the-global-economys-last-safe-haven
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Mar 29 10:20:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8 = 8 BTC [-]
Mar 29 10:20:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.795 BTC [-]
Mar 29 10:21:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 14 @ 0.19997 = 2.7996 BTC [+]
Mar 29 10:22:29 *	mircea_popescu is now known as the real slim shady
Mar 29 10:22:53 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is romanian, he cant rap
Mar 29 10:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	i can rap yo!
Mar 29 10:23:17 <jcpham>	http://youtu.be/OMAI-OIxLPo
Mar 29 10:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	let me show you romanians raping
Mar 29 10:23:27 <jcpham>	no rape
Mar 29 10:23:36 <jcpham>	just say no to rape mircea_popescu
Mar 29 10:23:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 50 @ 0.2 = 10 BTC [+]
Mar 29 10:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-yc10V8hB4
Mar 29 10:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	is rape like electronic rap ?
Mar 29 10:24:35 <ThickAsThieves>	e-rap
Mar 29 10:24:36 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 29 10:24:48 <ThickAsThieves>	the beat os okay so far
Mar 29 10:24:50 <ThickAsThieves>	is
Mar 29 10:24:57 <ThickAsThieves>	meh rapper sucks
Mar 29 10:25:03 <Chaang-Noi>	nachos not hot enough, beer not cold enough.. grr
Mar 29 10:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	this is like, romania's #1 (and pretty much only) rap band
Mar 29 10:25:36 <mircea_popescu>	they've been going since 1992
Mar 29 10:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	in other words, i recall them since they were wee famished tykes.
Mar 29 10:26:25 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 29 10:26:25 <ThickAsThieves>	here's some cool rap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU
Mar 29 10:26:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.70000, Best ask: 90.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 89.70000, 24 hour volume: 155011.66271357, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.99000, 24 hour vwap: 86.70834
Mar 29 10:26:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/piinea-amara-a-baietasilor-de-cartier/ << that's an old pic from like 1992, back when we were all young
Mar 29 10:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	and they were all poor.
Mar 29 10:35:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18939 @ 0.00068158 = 12.9084 BTC [+]
Mar 29 10:38:23 <jcpham>	i knew mircea_popescu had a gangster phase
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Mar 29 10:40:22 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Mar 29 10:40:23 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.479 BTC [+]
Mar 29 10:40:31 <error4733>	!last m s.dice
Mar 29 10:40:32 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00419995 BTC [+]
Mar 29 10:40:41 <error4733>	;;ticker m s.dice
Mar 29 10:40:42 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Mar 29 10:40:49 <error4733>	fuuu
Mar 29 10:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.459999 = 4.6 BTC [-]
Mar 29 10:41:07 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 29 10:41:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00375993 / 0.00408901 / 0.00419995 (19973 shares, 81.67 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00338263 / 0.0045 (663485 shares, 2,244.33 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00454143 / 0.0063799 (1701047 shares, 7,725.20 BTC)
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Mar 29 10:52:34 <Chaang-Noi>	lol at turtle down the stairs
Mar 29 10:53:33 <tiberiusiv>	whats that
Mar 29 10:53:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 29 10:53:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.02000, Best ask: 88.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.87000, Last trade: 88.00800, 24 hour volume: 156726.97399353, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.99000, 24 hour vwap: 86.66077
Mar 29 10:53:39 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2013/03/2013328222926559483.html
Mar 29 10:54:06 <ThickAsThieves>	it's like something out of cartoon, fat spoiled boy leader wants to fight
Mar 29 10:54:27 <ThickAsThieves>	how long before first shot fired you think?
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Mar 29 10:55:26 <ThickAsThieves>	http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59119000/jpg/_59119706_north_korea_ranges_2.jpg
Mar 29 10:55:54 <OneMiner>	I don't think it's going to happen. It's just too stupid for reality.
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Mar 29 10:56:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i think you underestimate the stupid in a boy leader
Mar 29 10:56:49 <OneMiner>	Perhaps.
Mar 29 10:57:20 <ThickAsThieves>	this picture is surreal http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21974381
Mar 29 10:57:25 <OneMiner>	But even the, it's not stupidity we are talking about. That would fall under madness.
Mar 29 10:57:49 <OneMiner>	*then*
Mar 29 10:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.465 = 0.93 BTC [+]
Mar 29 10:58:06 <ThickAsThieves>	ignorance, inexperience, bravado, what have you, the boy will seek a spanking
Mar 29 10:58:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 9 @ 0.09055 = 0.815 BTC [-]
Mar 29 10:58:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 11:00:06 <OneMiner>	It could be a good fight if it happened. That ruling family seems to be worse than all that BS in Iraq.
Mar 29 11:00:15 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Mar 29 11:00:16 <gribble>	4.665253 seconds
Mar 29 11:00:19 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 29 11:00:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.20001, Best ask: 88.60228, Bid-ask spread: 0.40227, Last trade: 88.60228, 24 hour volume: 156712.79134942, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.99000, 24 hour vwap: 86.64491
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Mar 29 11:01:18 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 29 11:01:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006 / 0.00065885 / 0.00068166 (518861 shares, 341.85 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.00066283 / 0.00071369 (2067014 shares, 1,370.08 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.0007334 / 0.00078628 (17181902 shares, 12,601.26 BTC)
Mar 29 11:02:15 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/undeniable-proof-that-the-walking-dead-and-toy-story-have-th
Mar 29 11:04:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.78 = 2.34 BTC [-]
Mar 29 11:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner nothing ever is too stupid for reality.
Mar 29 11:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	falklands comes to mind.
Mar 29 11:06:05 <Diablo-D3>	no, falklands really is too stupid for reality
Mar 29 11:06:19 <OneMiner>	That was a supprise attack. They thought they had time. They could have walked back or negotiated. But Brittish attack craft had longer range than they thought.
Mar 29 11:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	the brits nearly got sunk as a 1st world military power, are you kidding me ?
Mar 29 11:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	nobody walked out of that.
Mar 29 11:07:49 <mircea_popescu>	everyone crawled out
Mar 29 11:08:19 <Chaang-Noi>	england first world?
Mar 29 11:08:26 <OneMiner>	Everybody knows that the US will bomb the poop out of just about anybody. Also the US is allied with like, half the world.
Mar 29 11:08:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess maybe by european standards :/
Mar 29 11:08:27 <Diablo-D3>	did he just say england is a first world country?
Mar 29 11:08:29 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Mar 29 11:08:37 *	Diablo-D3 points at a nation full of chavs
Mar 29 11:08:47 <Diablo-D3>	that aint no dare first world country
Mar 29 11:09:02 <Chaang-Noi>	and their military? lol
Mar 29 11:09:06 <Chaang-Noi>	even the germans do better
Mar 29 11:10:23 <OneMiner>	The Germans do *everything* better.  j/k
Mar 29 11:10:46 <mircea_popescu>	german chocolate sucks
Mar 29 11:11:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Mar 29 11:11:14 <gribble>	54791.9922646
Mar 29 11:11:18 <ThickAsThieves>	its back
Mar 29 11:11:20 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77198.msg1697445#msg1697445
Mar 29 11:11:21 <OneMiner>	Black Forest cake is great.
Mar 29 11:11:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 29 11:11:28 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7232519.52401 based on data since last change | 7654236.09946 based on data for last three days
Mar 29 11:11:36 *	Diablo-D3 neither eats chocolate nor cake
Mar 29 11:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153138.0;all
Mar 29 11:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	this shit's so funny
Mar 29 11:12:49 <OneMiner>	Diablo-D3 drinks only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure-grain alcohol.
Mar 29 11:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153138.msg1698753#msg1698753 << there you go copumpkin. your fractional shares!
Mar 29 11:14:35 <Diablo-D3>	dont drink alchohol either
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Mar 29 11:16:59 <OneMiner>	No getting tipsy? Huff glue?
Mar 29 11:17:03 <OneMiner>	j/k!
Mar 29 11:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	so bfl forum is down
Mar 29 11:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/BFL_News independent twitter stream doesn't look promising.
Mar 29 11:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	bfl's "your good friend tom with blood sweat and tears" moment ?
Mar 29 11:20:36 <OneMiner>	Seen this? https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-2.html#post20942
Mar 29 11:20:44 <OneMiner>	That looks like it's up for me.
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Mar 29 11:20:55 <OneMiner>	I'll pastebin it if you want.
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Mar 29 11:21:11 <bowjob>	delay
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Mar 29 11:21:31 <mircea_popescu>	a now it loaded
Mar 29 11:21:36 *	mircea_popescu reads
Mar 29 11:21:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.369999 = 1.85 BTC [-]
Mar 29 11:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	"If you'd rather have your units shipped regardless of increased power usage, we will still guarantee your hashrate by shipping you however many units are required to achieve your purchased hashrate."
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Mar 29 11:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 29 11:22:25 <mircea_popescu>	there's something i don't understand here.
Mar 29 11:22:32 <mircea_popescu>	they took pre-orders. then they made units.
Mar 29 11:22:38 <OneMiner>	Ya, sounds like their chips are crap compared to their claims.
Mar 29 11:22:41 <mircea_popescu>	now they have to throtle units... and yet they can still deliver the same hash ?
Mar 29 11:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	how does the math of this work ?
Mar 29 11:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	you order 100 cows from me. i discover the cows i have only carry one teat
Mar 29 11:23:03 <bowjob>	blck magic
Mar 29 11:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	but i tell you if you want 400 teats with your 100 cows i'll send you 400 cows
Mar 29 11:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	well... where do i have 400 cows from ?!
Mar 29 11:23:29 <bowjob>	a wizard did it
Mar 29 11:23:35 <mircea_popescu>	ic
Mar 29 11:23:38 <OneMiner>	No, they are saying that they get worse H/j now and you can wait for the claimed H/j revised unit.
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Mar 29 11:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner but they ALSO say that if you want delivery now they will deliver your hash
Mar 29 11:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	with throttled units.
Mar 29 11:24:15 <Diablo-D3>	heh wouldnt that be interesting
Mar 29 11:24:16 <OneMiner>	At a higher power consumption per hash. Yes, that's how I read it too.
Mar 29 11:24:19 <Diablo-D3>	sell intentionally throttled units
Mar 29 11:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	right but where from ?
Mar 29 11:24:24 <Diablo-D3>	and then keep selling the same units over and over
Mar 29 11:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	they sold 500 units at 80 gh say
Mar 29 11:24:33 <Diablo-D3>	just changing the firmware out with one that clocks it higher
Mar 29 11:24:35 <mircea_popescu>	now they can only deliver 40 gh
Mar 29 11:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	but they will deliver 1000 units to conserve hash
Mar 29 11:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	well... where's the other units come from
Mar 29 11:24:49 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: I don't understand your question
Mar 29 11:24:53 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: they are manufacturing them
Mar 29 11:24:57 <bugpowderr>	They reduce the number of chips per unit
Mar 29 11:24:59 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: they didn't like, manufacture 1000 and then stop
Mar 29 11:25:08 <bugpowderr>	and ship more units
Mar 29 11:25:13 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: they will be forced to manufacture more units than they thought
Mar 29 11:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	gwillen but they DID manufacture a finite amount
Mar 29 11:25:19 <OneMiner>	It's not a money maker. They send more units to fill one order. They screwed up the chips or the board.
Mar 29 11:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	if we go with the theory that they're not just halucianting the entire episode.
Mar 29 11:25:29 <bugpowderr>	I imagine the chips are the limiting factor
Mar 29 11:25:35 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: they do not currently have anywhere near the number of chips required to fulfill all preorders
Mar 29 11:25:38 <bugpowderr>	each box can only supply 120W
Mar 29 11:25:39 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: they are still making more
Mar 29 11:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Mar 29 11:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	with what money are they making more ?
Mar 29 11:25:53 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: this just means they will fulfill fewer than we thought
Mar 29 11:25:57 <Chaang-Noi>	even though i now have bought a bfl 60 ghs i think this mess is lulz
Mar 29 11:26:02 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: errr, with the fucktons and fucktons of preorder money?
Mar 29 11:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	...
Mar 29 11:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	either i'm the only one with a calculator on my os or else wtf is going on here.
Mar 29 11:26:27 <bugpowderr>	ponzi
Mar 29 11:26:32 <OneMiner>	mircea_popescu People sent them (and are still sending them) bajillions of bitcoins. If they kept any that's where the money comes from.
Mar 29 11:26:44 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: I don't know what you're calculating from
Mar 29 11:26:52 <Chaang-Noi>	getting one of the first shipped, even at 40 ghs will still be hella good
Mar 29 11:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner my intel says people sent them a lot of btc back when, and that people have not been sending more
Mar 29 11:26:56 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: unless you have inside knowledge about BFL's costs that you should share with the rest of us
Mar 29 11:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	and moreover that people have on the net been cancelling
Mar 29 11:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	but that's irrelevant.
Mar 29 11:27:30 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 29 11:27:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.70001, Best ask: 88.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.26999, Last trade: 88.99000, 24 hour volume: 156606.63389529, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.75000, 24 hour vwap: 86.60949
Mar 29 11:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	from whatever i can foggily remember about managing ops, if you start a project to do X and you do X/2
Mar 29 11:27:46 <mircea_popescu>	you can't just make another X
Mar 29 11:27:54 <OneMiner>	mircea_popescu Hence their scramble I guess. But they made the chips one way or the other so the large initial expense is done with. It will likely cost them less to produce a revised board.
Mar 29 11:27:57 <Chaang-Noi>	they did with fpga
Mar 29 11:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner ok, it will cost less. this i agree
Mar 29 11:28:25 <mircea_popescu>	but it will cost SOMETHING
Mar 29 11:28:30 <OneMiner>	I agree.
Mar 29 11:28:39 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: ok, show us your math that says they already spent all the money, then
Mar 29 11:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	you can't just go "we're doing X item with Y resources"
Mar 29 11:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	then later "well now we're doing 2X really"
Mar 29 11:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	gwillen more importantly than the money, they will have to get people to pre-order 2nd batch units
Mar 29 11:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	to use that money to complete 1st batch.
Mar 29 11:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	much like everyone else i guess, but anyway, still pretty fucking fraudulent.
Mar 29 11:29:43 <Chaang-Noi>	bfl is so shady, its lol
Mar 29 11:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.81 = 7.24 BTC [-]
Mar 29 11:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	i mean this is literally what a ponzi is ;
Mar 29 11:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	get people to put up equity (which you call pre-orders) to deliver benefits to ppl who put up equity earlier
Mar 29 11:30:24 <gwillen>	mircea_popescu: as far as I know they are not dividing anything into batches, they are just taking preorders continuously
Mar 29 11:30:57 <mircea_popescu>	gwillen this isn't about bfl fantasy-labeling of real world items
Mar 29 11:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	this is about the underlying reality.
Mar 29 11:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	there's no flux-process chip making
Mar 29 11:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	chips are made in batches.
Mar 29 11:31:37 <gwillen>	well, they were talking about an order of like 6 wafers
Mar 29 11:31:45 <gwillen>	which is nowhere near enough for all the preorders that existed even at the time they said it
Mar 29 11:31:48 <gwillen>	so clearly there are going to be more
Mar 29 11:31:52 <gwillen>	fuck if I know how many more they ordered
Mar 29 11:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, fo the 6 they burned one, so 5.
Mar 29 11:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.8 = 5.4 BTC [-]
Mar 29 11:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.8 = 7.2 BTC [-]
Mar 29 11:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	and of the 5 they're not really getting 100%, and the chips dont work to spec.
Mar 29 11:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	so... 3 ?
Mar 29 11:32:32 <bugpowderr>	BFL is totally fucked
Mar 29 11:32:41 <bugpowderr>	bottom line
Mar 29 11:32:51 <bugpowderr>	their business model is broken
Mar 29 11:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	i can't see a future where they dig themselves out of the hole.
Mar 29 11:33:04 <bugpowderr>	they tried to assemble the plane from parts after they jumped off the cliff
Mar 29 11:33:14 <bugpowderr>	and the ground is coming up fast
Mar 29 11:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	bugpowderr ya but it was a plastic model and they had no glue.
Mar 29 11:33:22 <bugpowderr>	and the parts dont work
Mar 29 11:33:23 <bugpowderr>	yeah
Mar 29 11:33:31 <bugpowderr>	they are totally fucked
Mar 29 11:33:45 <mircea_popescu>	somebody brought me whole hazelnuts
Mar 29 11:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	i have been using various items on my desk to crack them
Mar 29 11:33:53 <thestringpuller>	bugpowderr: what is your next bet?
Mar 29 11:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	people keep wandering in concerned to see wtf am i thrashing into the ground
Mar 29 11:34:05 <bugpowderr>	I am just going to sit tight for a while
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Mar 29 11:34:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00701 BTC [-]
Mar 29 11:34:25 <bugpowderr>	Let those coins season till the next great opportunity comes
Mar 29 11:34:36 <bugpowderr>	shorting BFL would be wonderful though
Mar 29 11:34:45 <OneMiner>	The truth of the matter is they ether didn't know what they were talking about or were lying about their time table and now it turns out that the same goes for their chip and board production. They are EITHER (choose one) lying or incompetent.
Mar 29 11:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	bugpowderr they're aptly not listed
Mar 29 11:34:59 <bugpowderr>	yep
Mar 29 11:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner im totally seeing a replay of tom's basic here tbh.
Mar 29 11:35:13 <OneMiner>	Maybe a bit of both.....
Mar 29 11:35:37 <OneMiner>	Tom's basic? Is Tom the guy that was doing bASIC?
Mar 29 11:35:41 <bugpowderr>	thank god their are other semi-competent manufacturers.  I think bitcoin won't actually be much affected by it
Mar 29 11:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 29 11:36:02 <mircea_popescu>	bugpowderr i dunno about that. the only ppl to demonstrate asic hashing are both chinese
Mar 29 11:36:04 <OneMiner>	I see. Ok, I can agree with that then. It's lol if it wasn't so destructive.
Mar 29 11:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	the only people to demonstrate fuckuppery of incredible level are both american
Mar 29 11:36:29 <mircea_popescu>	this pattern is starting to worry.
Mar 29 11:36:36 <pgp>	dumb question, but with the recent explosion in the network hash rate doesn't being forced to wait for bfl's product make it less valuable by the time you actually recieve it? Or does the rise of USD/BTC from the time of preorder to delivery make up for that?  or is it a wash?
Mar 29 11:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	o, and all europe has contributed to date is scams
Mar 29 11:36:44 <bugpowderr>	there is a reason APPLE is assembled in china
Mar 29 11:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	(the german folks recently, the primeasic earlier etc)
Mar 29 11:37:00 <mircea_popescu>	pgp it does make it less valuable yes
Mar 29 11:37:25 <bugpowderr>	exchange rate could rise in the future
Mar 29 11:37:25 <OneMiner>	pgp You're on the right track but it's up to you to decide.
Mar 29 11:37:38 <bugpowderr>	you will never make up for the missing coins from the lost opportunity
Mar 29 11:37:50 <pgp>	are the allowing people to cancel and are they returning BTC?
Mar 29 11:38:04 <mircea_popescu>	pgp btc equiv of the fiat value of the btc sent at the time it was sent
Mar 29 11:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	90% haircut.
Mar 29 11:38:23 <pgp>	lol
Mar 29 11:39:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.8 = 4.8 BTC [+]
Mar 29 11:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	in fairness there's plenty of good reason for that, as in, they're supposedly paying ppl in fiat.
Mar 29 11:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, a bad deal.
Mar 29 11:40:10 <gwillen>	pgp: if you bought with dollars you weren't otherwise going to use to buy BTC, I think you get pretty much a wash
Mar 29 11:40:25 <gwillen>	pgp: if you bought with BTC or with dollars you would have put into BTC, I think you lose
Mar 29 11:40:42 <gwillen>	because the increase in price does not correspond to an increase in USD output, because there's a corresponding increase in difficulty.
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Mar 29 11:41:11 <thestringpuller>	bugpowderr: do you still think MPOEbot is at a loss?
Mar 29 11:41:16 <bugpowderr>	yes
Mar 29 11:41:34 <bugpowderr>	I don't think the puts I bought yesterday are going to make up the difference :)
Mar 29 11:41:41 <pgp>	any decent resources on the web that discusses GH/s NPV (net present value) and associated variables?
Mar 29 11:41:43 <bugpowderr>	but I don't know
Mar 29 11:41:47 <bugpowderr>	we will find out tonight!
Mar 29 11:41:52 <bugpowderr>	nice bounce in the price already though
Mar 29 11:41:56 <bugpowderr>	(S.MPOE)
Mar 29 11:41:57 <OneMiner>	Anybody selling a small amount of ASICMINER?
Mar 29 11:42:06 <thestringpuller>	i am so excited!!!!!
Mar 29 11:42:11 <mircea_popescu>	pgp not really.
Mar 29 11:42:11 <bugpowderr>	by general rule is buy S.MPOE whenever it touches .0006
Mar 29 11:42:15 <bugpowderr>	my
Mar 29 11:42:17 <gwillen>	pgp: I'd be interested in seeing such an analysis if you found or made one
Mar 29 11:42:31 <Chaang-Noi>	im a goat, and im on a motherfucking boat!
Mar 29 11:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	yah what gwillen said. i gather you're competent enough, go make one pgp
Mar 29 11:42:44 <mircea_popescu>	we'll tear it apart and laugh at you, but
Mar 29 11:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	it'll be invaluable for your education.
Mar 29 11:42:55 <bugpowderr>	I think there is a website blog that does a pretty in depth analysis of the various miners
Mar 29 11:43:01 <bugpowderr>	and projected profit
Mar 29 11:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	bugpowderr i remember one that sucked ass.
Mar 29 11:43:12 <bugpowderr>	its on reddit every once in a while
Mar 29 11:43:15 <bugpowderr>	lots of plots
Mar 29 11:43:16 <mircea_popescu>	buncha broken graphs
Mar 29 11:43:16 <bugpowderr>	yeah
Mar 29 11:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	o yeah. that.
Mar 29 11:43:20 <bugpowderr>	too many plots
Mar 29 11:43:34 <bugpowderr>	I never really read it carefully
Mar 29 11:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the guy made retarded, miner-biased assumptions
Mar 29 11:43:44 <bugpowderr>	yeah
Mar 29 11:43:53 <bugpowderr>	curse of the assumptions
Mar 29 11:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	people gotta learn somehow that lipsticked pig is not useful
Mar 29 11:44:07 <bugpowderr>	too many knobs, lets pick a value we like
Mar 29 11:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	exactly
Mar 29 11:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	this should be taught in hs. "too many knobs ? always pick a value you can't stand"
Mar 29 11:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2440 @ 0.00419995 = 10.2479 BTC [+]
Mar 29 11:45:50 <ThickAsThieves>	i think all the BFL theorizing is based on old numbers. People were saying in BFL shoutbox last night that there are many more than 6 wafers
Mar 29 11:45:57 <ThickAsThieves>	also
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Mar 29 11:46:11 <ThickAsThieves>	BFL is claiming they will fix the issue as they start shoipping
Mar 29 11:46:25 <ThickAsThieves>	so their loss in havbing to send more units to meet obligations,
Mar 29 11:46:36 <ThickAsThieves>	may be minimal
Mar 29 11:46:42 <ThickAsThieves>	if they actually fix the problem
Mar 29 11:46:56 <ThickAsThieves>	they claim the problem is not with the chips themselves
Mar 29 11:47:01 <ThickAsThieves>	but eslewhere in the design
Mar 29 11:47:19 <ThickAsThieves>	this is all, of course, impossible to prove
Mar 29 11:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Mar 29 11:47:59 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile
Mar 29 11:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	brazil exchange hacked.
Mar 29 11:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	looks grim
Mar 29 11:48:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/PZfuZM3X
Mar 29 11:48:28 <Chaang-Noi>	what do you think the price of the first 60 ghs to ship would be? if sold on the market?
Mar 29 11:48:52 <Chaang-Noi>	lol mp i cant read that
Mar 29 11:49:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not even know they had an exchange
Mar 29 11:49:28 <OneMiner>	It's possible they have finalized a small amount of their boards on order. So changes to future boards would be of minimal cost. Like higher quality VRMs or something.
Mar 29 11:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	O Mercado Bitcoin sofreu um ataque, que infelizmente foi bem sucedido, em sua implementação de redeem code. Devido à um erro de codificação, foi possível ao atacante gerar novos códigos de crédito, sem que o valor fosse devidamente debitado em seu saldo final. Conseguindo assim, gerar um montante falso de bitcoins dentro do sistema e resgatá-lo em tempo hábil, durante a madrugada.
Mar 29 11:49:45 <mircea_popescu>	that says their redeem codes were broken and leaked equity.
Mar 29 11:49:57 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Mar 29 11:50:05 <Chaang-Noi>	they should have known better than to use codes...
Mar 29 11:50:09 <pgp>	basic factors would include cost per GH/s for hardware, current network hash rate,growth assumptions in overall network hash rate, cost of electricity, lag time from laying out cash per GH/s and actually getting it working product.  And some sort of time value of money discount factor for future cash flows.  Am I missing anything?
Mar 29 11:50:48 <Chaang-Noi>	anyone want to buy the first bfl asic everordered?
Mar 29 11:51:05 <Chaang-Noi>	asking 150 btc
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Mar 29 11:51:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009994 = 0.0999 BTC [-]
Mar 29 11:52:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.009994 = 0.04 BTC [-]
Mar 29 11:53:21 <bugpowderr>	I wonder how Teramining is coming along
Mar 29 11:53:35 <Chaang-Noi>	what is that?
Mar 29 11:56:05 <MJR_III>	crazy news huh
Mar 29 11:56:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-mercado-bitcoin/
Mar 29 11:57:01 *	Ukto just woke up
Mar 29 11:57:04 <Ukto>	what news?
Mar 29 11:57:39 <Ukto>	oh, never even heard of them
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Mar 29 11:59:00 <MJR_III>	pgp: also...current btc/usd exchange rate and expected btc/usd exchange rate
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Mar 29 11:59:42 <MJR_III>	i feel like that is what most miners forget about
Mar 29 11:59:50 <MJR_III>	in their break even calculations
Mar 29 12:00:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 29 12:00:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.00000, Best ask: 88.29000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29000, Last trade: 88.29000, 24 hour volume: 156455.07758322, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.50000, 24 hour vwap: 86.54041
Mar 29 12:00:09 <MJR_III>	if you are going to mine, you should be bullish on bitcoins i think
Mar 29 12:00:28 <MJR_III>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 29 12:00:29 <gribble>	86.68
Mar 29 12:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III or hedge
Mar 29 12:00:54 <MJR_III>	;;calc (86.68-41)/86.68
Mar 29 12:00:55 <gribble>	0.526995846793
Mar 29 12:01:03 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: yeah...or hedge
Mar 29 12:01:15 <pgp>	I think you start first with a constant BTC USD model...
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Mar 29 12:01:28 <MJR_III>	but if i am calculating my break even using todays prices as most mining calculators do...
Mar 29 12:02:01 <MJR_III>	then it doesn't appear to be worth it, but if i expected it to hit 100...that could make it profitable
Mar 29 12:02:46 <ThickAsThieves>	calculating mining profits anything more than 1 week out is voodoo anyway
Mar 29 12:02:52 <MJR_III>	yeah
Mar 29 12:02:55 <OneMiner>	MJR_III If you are that close to the line then you should probably just buy coins with your hardware and power costs. You'll end up with much more.
Mar 29 12:03:12 <MJR_III>	but i think most people worry about future difficulty all the time
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Mar 29 12:03:36 <MJR_III>	but don't think of the other side of the coin...which is mining fewer coins is fine if they are each worth more
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Mar 29 12:03:47 <Chaang-Noi>	http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkCGyuVVRDiwAfjKJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dlotus%2Bcar%26fr%3Dsfp%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D109&w=1600&h=1200&imgurl=www.autocarsight.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2F2012-Lotus-Exige-S.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autocarsight.com%2Ftag%2Flotus-exige-s&size=320.2+KB&name=2012+Lotus+Exige+S+Spec
Mar 29 12:03:48 <Chaang-Noi>	s+and+Review&p=lotus+car&oid=0cb0ab46c07e25b28f10b5ae7f1d4ff1&fr2=piv-web&fr=sfp&tt=2012%2BLotus%2BExige%2BS%2BSpecs%2Band%2BReview&b=91&ni=114&no=109&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11dgs3a7r&sigb=12uq2h7eh&sigi=126g0sakn&.crumb=S4mQTrSc6lC
Mar 29 12:03:54 <MJR_III>	CPU mining might be profitable if you have a long enough timeline
Mar 29 12:03:57 <MJR_III>	and are very bullish
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Mar 29 12:04:17 <Chaang-Noi>	that link! anyway, should i get it?> lotus exige s?
Mar 29 12:04:18 <MJR_III>	obviously it is somewhat speculative
Mar 29 12:05:00 <OneMiner>	lol Chaang-Noi, obviously. :P
Mar 29 12:05:30 <Chaang-Noi>	wife says no
Mar 29 12:05:37 <Chaang-Noi>	but im not sure im going to listen
Mar 29 12:05:41 <Chaang-Noi>	it will just show up one day...
Mar 29 12:05:53 <Chaang-Noi>	claim i dont know how it got there...
Mar 29 12:06:27 <OneMiner>	hahaha
Mar 29 12:06:40 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 29 12:07:11 <bugpowderr>	get a go kart
Mar 29 12:07:15 <OneMiner>	How about an old civic or something, tub it out and take it to the track. Then you just need a tow vehicle. <----- that's my vision except with a miata.
Mar 29 12:08:11 <Chaang-Noi>	taxes in thailand on cars liek this are no joke like 500% to 700% or more...
Mar 29 12:08:11 <bugpowderr>	its about as pratical as an exige
Mar 29 12:08:23 <arij>	luxury tax?
Mar 29 12:08:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i sadly cant get one here, ill have to leave it in the usa
Mar 29 12:08:56 <Chaang-Noi>	they taxes these cars like crazy, yeah luxury tax
Mar 29 12:09:07 <Chaang-Noi>	more or less fair as there are no other real taxes
Mar 29 12:09:24 <Chaang-Noi>	honestly i think i would just move first
Mar 29 12:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00068158 = 19.7658 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 12:11:19 <OneMiner>	Yes, in that case move first. Less complicated.
Mar 29 12:12:35 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah :/  unless btc goes to 5,000 then im getting 4...
Mar 29 12:13:06 <thestringpuller>	bugpowderr: do you still think MPOEbot is at a loss?
Mar 29 12:13:12 <thestringpuller>	how did that happen
Mar 29 12:13:14 <thestringpuller>	oops sorry
Mar 29 12:13:18 <thestringpuller>	disregard
Mar 29 12:13:33 <Chaang-Noi>	:) i still think its a loss:)
Mar 29 12:13:39 <Chaang-Noi>	just a guess
Mar 29 12:13:59 <thestringpuller>	the price was manipulated yesterday...
Mar 29 12:14:06 <thestringpuller>	the bot sucked up a lot of calls
Mar 29 12:14:18 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 29 12:14:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.23100, Best ask: 89.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.76900, Last trade: 89.00000, 24 hour volume: 156779.61814498, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.50000, 24 hour vwap: 86.53906
Mar 29 12:14:23 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 29 12:14:37 <Chaang-Noi>	convient time to "dump" for some
Mar 29 12:15:14 <bowjob>	mhm btc 100 by april 1st
Mar 29 12:15:19 <bowjob>	yay or nay
Mar 29 12:15:42 <OneMiner>	lol 4 loti hahaha
Mar 29 12:16:09 <Chaang-Noi>	if btc = 5k i will do it!
Mar 29 12:17:06 <OneMiner>	5k would put me in a sweet spot. I couldn't complain about that.
Mar 29 12:17:56 <OneMiner>	That's a reset button. School and a living standard bump.
Mar 29 12:18:29 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah btc at 5k i could do 4 loti in thailand with no problem
Mar 29 12:19:57 <ThickAsThieves>	all this i'm so rich talk is bad juju
Mar 29 12:20:14 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, its the top of a bubbler
Mar 29 12:20:23 <MJR_III>	josh bft is trying to beat the bitbet date
Mar 29 12:20:25 <thestringpuller>	people are getting rich ThickAsThieves are you not
Mar 29 12:20:26 <Chaang-Noi>	we wont hit 5k until we correct
Mar 29 12:20:28 <thestringpuller>	?*
Mar 29 12:20:41 <Chaang-Noi>	btc went from 2 to 90 in like a year, or like x45
Mar 29 12:20:53 <ThickAsThieves>	i did my bragging last night
Mar 29 12:20:53 <Chaang-Noi>	90 x 45 is like 4k so like one yearish right?
Mar 29 12:20:54 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Mar 29 12:21:01 <ThickAsThieves>	but i'm still not satisfied
Mar 29 12:21:04 <thestringpuller>	ADD GOOD JUJU to the mix
Mar 29 12:21:05 <OneMiner>	Ya, the price increase is crazy.
Mar 29 12:21:07 <thestringpuller>	invest invest invest
Mar 29 12:21:19 <thestringpuller>	drive the boom, don't be like a dotcom boom
Mar 29 12:21:20 <Chaang-Noi>	just wait until normal people invest in btc
Mar 29 12:21:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [+]
Mar 29 12:21:47 <OneMiner>	You know what's crazy good news? I think the US money laundering news is great. It's step one to establishing bitcoin in US society.
Mar 29 12:21:51 <thestringpuller>	I think as old money enters the btc economy, due to lack of regulation people like mircea_popescu will take their money pretty quickly
Mar 29 12:22:27 <thestringpuller>	people inside trade hardcore here...
Mar 29 12:22:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 110 @ 0.775 = 85.25 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:22:53 <Chaang-Noi>	well gents, tomorrow i gotz to travel so im off to bed, call me if we get close to 100
Mar 29 12:23:06 <Chaang-Noi>	holy shit 110 lol
Mar 29 12:23:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.77001 = 2.31 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:23:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 29 @ 0.77 = 22.33 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:24:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8941 @ 0.00068158 = 6.094 BTC [+]
Mar 29 12:24:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.76 = 3.8 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:25:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.75801 = 7.5801 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:25:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 29 12:25:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.48500, Best ask: 89.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01500, Last trade: 89.50000, 24 hour volume: 156731.60658333, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.50000, 24 hour vwap: 86.52536
Mar 29 12:26:20 <bitesak>	not mainstream, but started downloading Cliff's halfpasthuman.com wujo on bitcoin | http://halfpasthuman.com/wujo/clifswujo3252013bitcoin.mp3
Mar 29 12:27:08 <OneMiner>	Who dis?
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Mar 29 12:32:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.758 = 4.548 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:32:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.757 = 3.028 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:32:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75613 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:32:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75612 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:32:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.75201 = 4.5121 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:32:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.752 = 7.52 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:33:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75101 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:33:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.751 = 6.008 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:33:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 62 @ 0.75 = 46.5 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:33:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Mar 29 12:33:34 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
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Mar 29 12:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7991 @ 0.00068158 = 5.4465 BTC [+]
Mar 29 12:33:37 <mpexbot>	smickles: 747
Mar 29 12:33:42 <bitesak>	known for his asymetric language trend analysis, using the change of language in the postings online to derive forecasts for developing trends
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Mar 29 12:38:06 <MJR_III>	khan academy had a great video on diffie hellman system
Mar 29 12:38:49 <bitesak>	Save 90 % if paying with real currency such as Bitcoin :)
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Mar 29 12:49:06 <ThickAsThieves>	is there international demand for getting a US high school diploma with online classes?
Mar 29 12:49:25 <ThickAsThieves>	anf furthermore would bitcoin be a good fit for such a service?
Mar 29 12:51:11 <deadweasel>	might be hard to understand btc w/out a high school diploma
Mar 29 12:51:26 <ThickAsThieves>	well
Mar 29 12:51:36 <ThickAsThieves>	thats not the only angle
Mar 29 12:51:46 <ThickAsThieves>	person can be an adult
Mar 29 12:51:55 <ThickAsThieves>	with or without a local diploma
Mar 29 12:52:13 <ThickAsThieves>	tahts why i ask if there is demand for a "US" diploma
Mar 29 12:52:20 <pgp>	question about network difficulty...  does it adjust to bring rate back to 1 block per 10 min on current hash rate, or does it try to compensate to bring overall hash rate from last halving day to 1 block evey 10 min?
Mar 29 12:53:20 <deadweasel>	ThickAsThieves: I didn't catch that.  So they might have a diploma from Spain, but want a US one.
Mar 29 12:53:26 <ThickAsThieves>	US diploma would be accredited and accepted by colleges
Mar 29 12:53:34 <ThickAsThieves>	right
Mar 29 12:54:05 <ThickAsThieves>	credit recovery might even be possible as well
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Mar 29 12:54:10 <ThickAsThieves>	but that would get tricky
Mar 29 12:54:11 <thestringpuller>	smickles: will send you pm in a second
Mar 29 12:54:40 <Guest4504>	Goat from a phone. Lol at technology.
Mar 29 12:56:01 <OneMiner>	pgp 1 block per 10 min based on rate of block generation during the period.
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Mar 29 12:57:41 <ThickAsThieves>	erik answers https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1700294#msg1700294
Mar 29 12:58:06 <pgp>	so, if we assume a constant increase in hash rate, then halving day, by definition will alway be something short of 4 years...
Mar 29 12:58:52 <OneMiner>	pgp Yes, if hashrate always goes up then halving day will come sooner by a bit.
Mar 29 12:59:12 <OneMiner>	The oposite is also true.
Mar 29 12:59:34 <pgp>	and difficulty adjusts every 2100 blocks, correct?
Mar 29 13:00:47 <OneMiner>	Hmmm... 2018 or something like that.
Mar 29 13:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller say what ?
Mar 29 13:01:20 <jborkl>	No, the longest the diff will not adjust is two weeks
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Mar 29 13:02:04 <jborkl>	slowdown in hash rate, it will lower in two weeks- not 2.5 or 3 weeks
Mar 29 13:02:29 <OneMiner>	It's not based on time. It's based on number of blocks. You sure about that jborkl?
Mar 29 13:02:53 <jborkl>	I have been through quite a few lower diff levels and it adjusts at two weeks
Mar 29 13:03:00 <OneMiner>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty#How_often_does_the_difficulty_change.3F
Mar 29 13:03:37 <deadweasel>	ThickAsThieves: Credit Repair business is actually a good business to get into in the US.  since they legislated against all those "instant credit repair" scams, people can actually get help.
Mar 29 13:04:31 <jborkl>	 If the previous 2016 blocks took more than two weeks to find, the difficulty is reduced
Mar 29 13:04:33 <mircea_popescu>	nic erik post
Mar 29 13:04:53 <jborkl>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty
Mar 29 13:05:53 <OneMiner>	jborkl I think you're reading that wrong.
Mar 29 13:06:24 <OneMiner>	If the previous 2016 blocks took more than two weeks to find  <---- suggests that you'd need all 2016 blocks to be found.
Mar 29 13:07:26 <jborkl>	if half the network took a shit, then we would drop to one block every 20 minutes and that would last a month
Mar 29 13:07:33 <jborkl>	killing the network in the meantime
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Mar 29 13:08:29 <OneMiner>	jborkl Correct.
Mar 29 13:08:44 <jborkl>	it adjusts every two weeks maximum
Mar 29 13:08:56 <jborkl>	can be shorter of course
Mar 29 13:09:14 <OneMiner>	Umm.... I don't think so dood. Site it or it didn't happen.
Mar 29 13:09:27 <bugpowderr>	nice post by Erik
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Mar 29 13:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	bugpowderr ya i thought so.
Mar 29 13:14:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00067944 = 5.4355 BTC [-]
Mar 29 13:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	im starting to like the guy tbh.
Mar 29 13:14:36 <MJR_III>	;;calc 14*24*6
Mar 29 13:14:37 <gribble>	2016
Mar 29 13:14:44 <MJR_III>	it compares that to
Mar 29 13:15:09 <MJR_III>	;;14*24*60
Mar 29 13:15:10 <gribble>	Error: "14*24*60" is not a valid command.
Mar 29 13:15:17 <MJR_III>	;;calc 14*24*60
Mar 29 13:15:17 <gribble>	20160
Mar 29 13:15:56 <MJR_III>	it readjusts after 2016 blocks
Mar 29 13:16:11 <MJR_III>	however long that takes
Mar 29 13:17:14 <MJR_III>	thats why a huge increase in mining power will not really help you mine a ton of blocks
Mar 29 13:17:26 <MJR_III>	you will just increase the difficulty quicker
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Mar 29 13:21:15 <MJR_III>	The change in difficulty is in proportion to the amount of time over or under two weeks the previous 2016 blocks took to find.
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Mar 29 13:25:18 <unbalanced>	Is anyone using www.bitmit.net ? Is it the eBay of bitcoin or just one of many contenders?
Mar 29 13:25:32 <unbalanced>	And is it, or are any of them, listed assets? Or soon to be?
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Mar 29 13:26:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 36 @ 0.2 = 7.2 BTC [+]
Mar 29 13:27:13 <unbalanced>	I think someone mentioned building an eBay-killer here this week but now I can't remember who/when/what
Mar 29 13:27:22 <unbalanced>	It's been quite the week.
Mar 29 13:27:35 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced probably me.
Mar 29 13:28:35 <unbalanced>	Ah... so does bitmit not cut it or you just hadn't seen it or still plenty of room for competition I guess?
Mar 29 13:29:34 <unbalanced>	Note to self: one question at a time.
Mar 29 13:29:34 <bugpowderr>	Oh jeeze... http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=4089
Mar 29 13:29:53 <bugpowderr>	don't trust da gubberment
Mar 29 13:31:26 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced basically it's yet another rehash of the old and by now stale "i wrote a script therefore this is a business".
Mar 29 13:31:26 <jurov>	unbalanced: mircea dreams about it
Mar 29 13:31:28 <unbalanced>	A lot can change in a month I guess. And people say bitcoin is volatile.
Mar 29 13:31:53 <unbalanced>	(re: Cyprus)
Mar 29 13:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	imagine if some kid made a html page which read THE REAL AMZON
Mar 29 13:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	would that be an amazon killer ?
Mar 29 13:33:22 <unbalanced>	mircea_popescu: I've read your "recognize you're an idiot, noob" posts re: BTC businesses and 100% agree.
Mar 29 13:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	to kill ebay you need a lot of ops competence.
Mar 29 13:33:56 <unbalanced>	As a guy wondering what my place is in the BTC economy, I take that stuff to heart and try to remember it.
Mar 29 13:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	this "here's a script that sorta replicates functionality now we wait for "the users" to make us a business" is nonsense
Mar 29 13:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	that aside : bitcoin desperately needs an ebay killer ap.
Mar 29 13:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	the only way to obtain such a thing is if someone with a lot of fmcg experience and contacts actually starts one.
Mar 29 13:35:26 <unbalanced>	So it only sucks because it doesn't have proven profits yet? Once proven to have traction and revenue, it wouldn't meet the noob=sux criteria?
Mar 29 13:35:35 <mircea_popescu>	not at all.
Mar 29 13:35:48 <unbalanced>	Yeah our posts crossed. I read ya.
Mar 29 13:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	let's go into detail here to understand each other.
Mar 29 13:35:57 <unbalanced>	Shoot
Mar 29 13:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	i don't care how much profit the doctor's office makes.
Mar 29 13:36:09 <mircea_popescu>	i care whether he's a doctor.
Mar 29 13:36:44 <mircea_popescu>	you can probably make a fuckton selling folk remedies and straight silicone injections into the ass. heck, some people do.
Mar 29 13:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	this doesn't validate them as doctors.
Mar 29 13:37:01 <unbalanced>	Roger. So Meg Whitman starts an eBay killer using bitcoin, that's when to pay attention.
Mar 29 13:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	for sure.
Mar 29 13:37:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00067446 = 5.3957 BTC [-]
Mar 29 13:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16610 @ 0.00068158 = 11.321 BTC [+]
Mar 29 13:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	but it doesn't have to be supercorp ceo.
Mar 29 13:37:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 891 @ 0.00068292 = 0.6085 BTC [+]
Mar 29 13:37:57 <mircea_popescu>	some guy who was the near east distribution manager for coca cola since 1992
Mar 29 13:38:34 <unbalanced>	Right... just not an anonymous site like bitmet. Real-world experience, real-world human face, contact info, support, operational chops, execution...
Mar 29 13:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	a woman that was in charge of maersk pacific ops for the past five years
Mar 29 13:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	the vp of LMHV Belgium
Mar 29 13:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	somebody
Mar 29 13:39:23 <MJR_III>	i would say that it is not so much even their experience (though that is helpful) but rather the fact that they are good at doing what they set out to do
Mar 29 13:39:32 <MJR_III>	many executives get fired for sucking
Mar 29 13:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	and this isn't random dickery as in "you must be old" or some shit. the ops experience shows.
Mar 29 13:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	there's a lot to business that's not taught in any c++ manual
Mar 29 13:39:55 <unbalanced>	True that.
Mar 29 13:39:59 <MJR_III>	yes, being a good programmer does not make you a good business manager
Mar 29 13:40:14 <MJR_III>	though not mutually exclusive
Mar 29 13:40:17 <mircea_popescu>	i can usually sniff out a half decent manager from a mile away
Mar 29 13:40:23 <mircea_popescu>	managers and polecats.
Mar 29 13:41:13 <MJR_III>	i think that one of the problems is that the current marketplace loves fuzzy things like "social networking" and pretty websites
Mar 29 13:41:23 <MJR_III>	but those things do not have the operational challenges of a real business
Mar 29 13:41:37 <MJR_III>	which is why you see things like BFL and others
Mar 29 13:41:41 <MJR_III>	who can't execute
Mar 29 13:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. they also don't have the chances of a real business.
Mar 29 13:41:44 <unbalanced>	So... in this case, bitmit.net (they need a better domain at least, I've mistyped it 3 different ways now) apparently has 17029 listings.
Mar 29 13:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	right
Mar 29 13:41:57 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced that metric is meaningless.
Mar 29 13:42:16 <mircea_popescu>	you have five minutes to find me a way to spend 10 btc on items that i could conceivably use during the remainder of 2013
Mar 29 13:42:22 <unbalanced>	(From their "worldwide" dropdown in upper right.)
Mar 29 13:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	for a 5% or more discount from amazon.
Mar 29 13:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	go.
Mar 29 13:42:33 <MJR_III>	actually executing in the real world when you have more complex operations than basically posting messages to each other is tough
Mar 29 13:42:43 <MJR_III>	and most web startups don't have to work in the REAL world
Mar 29 13:43:05 <MJR_III>	pinterest, twitter, facebook...they don't actually have to produce real things that take supply chains
Mar 29 13:43:21 <unbalanced>	Bear with me, I'm just wondering... is this a viable biz for that script kiddie, or maybe a team of 4, at these levels? Is it a good start or is Mr. Bitmit wasting his time?
Mar 29 13:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see that it is a business at all.
Mar 29 13:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	the test of a business is the value proposition.
Mar 29 13:43:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.761 BTC [+]
Mar 29 13:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	state it for my benefit, what is bitmit's vp ?
Mar 29 13:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	(leaving aside they don't even know this is where it starts)
Mar 29 13:44:01 <unbalanced>	"Shit you can buy with your bitcoins"
Mar 29 13:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	that's not a vp.
Mar 29 13:44:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
Mar 29 13:44:26 <MJR_III>	so a company like GE or Boeing have to do a whole different set of things than a web startup in silicon valley, and the fallacy is that because you are good at one thing, you will be good at the other
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Mar 29 13:44:43 <mircea_popescu>	"it costs you less to buy your lube in btc on our site than at your corner lube shop" is a vp.
Mar 29 13:44:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Mar 29 13:44:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Mar 29 13:44:56 <unbalanced>	"eBay for bitcoins"
Mar 29 13:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	dude. a vp is always comparative.
Mar 29 13:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	X < Y is a vp.
Mar 29 13:45:24 <unbalanced>	thx, sorry but real life is interrupting, gotta run
Mar 29 13:45:27 <unbalanced>	sorry
Mar 29 13:45:37 <unbalanced>	Thanks for the schoolin'
Mar 29 13:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	"ebay for bitcoins" is a marketing ploy, different beast.
Mar 29 13:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	gl.
Mar 29 13:47:01 <MJR_III>	its an interesting challenge, and i think its a testament to the strength of bitcoin that it survives bad management
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Mar 29 13:47:34 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III well... it also yet benefits from a very low bar.
Mar 29 13:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	nobody's seriously using it for anything much yet.
Mar 29 13:47:41 <MJR_III>	because at the end of the day...it comes down to management
Mar 29 13:47:50 <mircea_popescu>	fiat is regularly used in mission critical situations,
Mar 29 13:48:02 <MJR_III>	true
Mar 29 13:48:02 <MJR_III>	but if that is going to change, you will need people with a different skill set
Mar 29 13:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	such as the woman with no underwear on but five bucks in her pocket.
Mar 29 13:48:11 <mircea_popescu>	she knows she can get undies. for sure.
Mar 29 13:48:17 <MJR_III>	good point
Mar 29 13:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	and you know you can get gas, and food, and boots
Mar 29 13:48:41 <MJR_III>	i think bringing efficiency to the exchange mechanism is going to be the first step
Mar 29 13:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Mar 29 13:49:11 <MJR_III>	the other biggest thing will be the bitcoin atm
Mar 29 13:49:26 <MJR_III>	but i think that that will rely on an efficient and stable exchange
Mar 29 13:49:44 <MJR_III>	for example...the lady with no undies has a debit card
Mar 29 13:49:51 <MJR_III>	and the store only takes cash
Mar 29 13:49:59 <MJR_III>	not a problem nowadays, you just run to the atm
Mar 29 13:50:15 <MJR_III>	but you cannot have that level of convenience right now with bitcoin
Mar 29 13:50:16 <smickles>	cash only places usually have an atm on site
Mar 29 13:50:23 <MJR_III>	smickles: yes exactly
Mar 29 13:50:48 <MJR_III>	i think to drive local adoption, you will need to have two-way bitcoin atms spread locally
Mar 29 13:51:03 <MJR_III>	your fees would be in the spread that you are charging
Mar 29 13:51:23 <MJR_III>	since the transactions can go both ways, you could put cash in and get bitcoins out or vice versa
Mar 29 13:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	i still don't think bitcoin is adequate for the retail space
Mar 29 13:51:51 <Troic>	you going to wait for confirmations if you buy knickers ?
Mar 29 13:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	but that's an entirely set of problems from the bitmit thing
Mar 29 13:51:59 <MJR_III>	no...green addresses
Mar 29 13:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	Troic exactly.
Mar 29 13:52:20 <MJR_III>	my point is...why make cash only places take debit cards?
Mar 29 13:52:30 <MJR_III>	the atm can give you locally accepted currency
Mar 29 13:52:35 <MJR_III>	while you hold mostly bitcoins
Mar 29 13:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	i hate to be that ass who keeps linking his articles, but i hate repeating shit more. so MJR_III , ever saw http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/#comment-92015 ?
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Mar 29 13:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.478 = 0.956 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 13:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [+]
Mar 29 13:57:46 <MJR_III>	i read it and i agree
Mar 29 13:57:50 <Troic>	or just one way atms,  bitcoin-central's idea, cards charged in local currency charged to your btc.
Mar 29 13:57:57 <MJR_III>	but that is why i think that this does an end run around that problem
Mar 29 13:58:06 <Troic>	your, hmm, i mean their
Mar 29 13:58:16 <MJR_III>	cash is good for local
Mar 29 13:58:28 <MJR_III>	but i don't want to hold my cash in bank, i want to hold bitcoins in my wallet
Mar 29 13:59:23 <MJR_III>	the idea of an automatically adjusting exchange rate ATM that can be connected to a wallet is pretty trivial, the main issue is again exeecution
Mar 29 14:00:17 <MJR_III>	ATM's are a pretty big business, access to currency is always going to be needed
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Mar 29 14:02:45 <MJR_III>	imagine the convenience of just getting cash when you need it, anytime, for in person retail transactions
Mar 29 14:02:58 <MJR_III>	but holding your money and transferring for large transactions using the blockchain
Mar 29 14:03:29 <MJR_III>	it would add a ton of liquidity if this atm network took off
Mar 29 14:03:58 <MJR_III>	as people either choose to go buy some bitcoins by just depositing cash, or sell them because they need cash at the moment
Mar 29 14:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine the practical way this will work will be the magic cash dispenser
Mar 29 14:07:31 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-free-cash-machine/ that thing
Mar 29 14:07:56 <MJR_III>	exactly
Mar 29 14:07:59 <MJR_III>	i read that one before
Mar 29 14:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	be pretty cool thing to have
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Mar 29 14:08:16 <mircea_popescu>	but it may take a while. we're not quite able to make asics yet
Mar 29 14:08:21 <MJR_III>	you could even...and this is maybe going above and beyond
Mar 29 14:08:26 <mircea_popescu>	servicing atms is a few levels of complexity atop that
Mar 29 14:08:47 <MJR_III>	you could have those machines also mining as they do their role of providing a convenient exchange
Mar 29 14:09:00 <MJR_III>	and they have made, produced and shipped asics
Mar 29 14:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	haha maybe
Mar 29 14:09:08 <MJR_III>	avalon maybe
Mar 29 14:09:45 <MJR_III>	at first of course, you would hve to have them inside a business...
Mar 29 14:10:01 <MJR_III>	the point is that this space has already been explored...atm's are everywhere
Mar 29 14:10:17 <MJR_III>	you could buy an atm, and then reconfigure it to accept bitcoins instead of debit cards
Mar 29 14:10:24 <jcpham>	atm's have cash in them
Mar 29 14:10:29 <jcpham>	no one wants you to have cash
Mar 29 14:10:30 <MJR_III>	yes they would need to
Mar 29 14:10:32 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/2013/03/29/bloomberg-should-clean-up-their-act/
Mar 29 14:10:33 <jcpham>	dead technology
Mar 29 14:10:43 <smickles>	f-ing morons
Mar 29 14:10:51 <MJR_III>	um...i think that the volume on the exchanges would beg to differ jcpham
Mar 29 14:11:04 <jcpham>	no one wants you to have cash
Mar 29 14:11:09 <jcpham>	cash is a dead technology
Mar 29 14:11:16 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 29 14:11:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.89749, Best ask: 89.43408, Bid-ask spread: 0.53659, Last trade: 88.65000, 24 hour volume: 155385.63557232, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.32000, 24 hour vwap: 86.37690
Mar 29 14:11:18 <MJR_III>	then why are so many people selling bitcoins?
Mar 29 14:11:21 <MJR_III>	for USD
Mar 29 14:11:29 <MJR_III>	every sale involves someone buying and someone selling
Mar 29 14:11:36 <MJR_III>	so some people still want cash
Mar 29 14:11:45 <mircea_popescu>	smickles lol that girl looks like she has no neck
Mar 29 14:11:48 <MJR_III>	or should I say USD that they can withdraw as cash
Mar 29 14:11:51 <jcpham>	until it is illegal
Mar 29 14:11:54 <jcpham>	then no one wants it
Mar 29 14:11:57 <smickles>	buying cash is still a way to use bitcoin
Mar 29 14:12:07 <MJR_III>	smickles: exactly
Mar 29 14:12:10 <jcpham>	cash is my method for getting bitcoin
Mar 29 14:12:15 <jcpham>	cash works now
Mar 29 14:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i thought you mined
Mar 29 14:12:19 <jcpham>	but not in the future
Mar 29 14:12:23 <jcpham>	that too
Mar 29 14:12:29 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: people on tv tend to look odd
Mar 29 14:12:32 <MJR_III>	i don't think the dollar is going anywhere for a long time
Mar 29 14:13:04 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: aslo, to me, it looks like she painted herself derpy eyes
Mar 29 14:13:10 <MJR_III>	and as mircea_popescu's excellent article showed...you don't need bitcoin to do everything
Mar 29 14:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	smickles lol i think hr mom painted those
Mar 29 14:13:23 <MJR_III>	let it do what it is good at doing
Mar 29 14:13:31 <MJR_III>	and use cash for what it is good for
Mar 29 14:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	im with that.
Mar 29 14:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	i pay for undies in cash to this day
Mar 29 14:13:54 <MJR_III>	cash sucks as a store of value, but it is pretty convenient for in person local transactions
Mar 29 14:14:08 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: ah, right. It is a production. The probably do have people do it for her
Mar 29 14:14:32 <MJR_III>	cash sucks for sending money long distances, let bitcoin do that
Mar 29 14:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III kinda what it was intended as, you know ? little notes saying you have gold somewhere
Mar 29 14:14:45 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 29 14:14:48 <MJR_III>	exactly
Mar 29 14:15:04 <MJR_III>	you can turn cash into a reserve note for bitcoins in a way
Mar 29 14:15:27 <MJR_III>	it is a proxy like all currency
Mar 29 14:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	so no, bitcoin isn't killing fiat.
Mar 29 14:15:57 <mircea_popescu>	it's just going to give it a 2nd youth
Mar 29 14:16:01 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 29 14:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	as backed by bitcoin, i can see a use for usd/eur/etc
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Mar 29 14:16:11 <MJR_III>	i agree
Mar 29 14:16:16 <MJR_III>	it will basically undo bretton woods
Mar 29 14:16:31 <MJR_III>	as people use it to peg the dollar to something scarce
Mar 29 14:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Mar 29 14:16:57 <MJR_III>	they can then see the real fluctuations in its value
Mar 29 14:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	yup
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Mar 29 14:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	soon enough will be a topic in elections
Mar 29 14:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	"this govt's policy has seen our currency drop 40% against btc"
Mar 29 14:17:21 <MJR_III>	yes i agree
Mar 29 14:17:38 <MJR_III>	real value, money is not able to be inflated artificially
Mar 29 14:17:47 <MJR_III>	there needs to be a good or service backing it up
Mar 29 14:18:01 <jcpham>	like HFT trading on an exchange?
Mar 29 14:18:15 <jcpham>	redundant T ftw
Mar 29 14:18:19 <MJR_III>	exchanging one proxy for another
Mar 29 14:18:22 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham wait. what ? you mean on gox ?
Mar 29 14:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	with 6 minute delays ? hft ? srsly ?
Mar 29 14:18:34 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 29 14:18:41 <jcpham>	is gox still broken
Mar 29 14:18:44 <jcpham>	i dunno
Mar 29 14:18:45 <MJR_III>	until there is a better exchange, AND all exchanges communicate with each other
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Mar 29 14:18:54 <MJR_III>	you won't have efficiencies
Mar 29 14:18:56 <jcpham>	i've been building a porch all week
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Mar 29 14:19:36 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1700739#msg1700739
Mar 29 14:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III that is a good point actually. i have no idea why everyone's so hell bent on being special unique etc.
Mar 29 14:19:40 <Diablo-D3>	I think I just pwned someone.
Mar 29 14:19:43 <Diablo-D3>	oh well =/
Mar 29 14:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	well... other than the obvious "cause they're 16yo aspies"
Mar 29 14:19:58 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: yeah, it just takes trust, which comes down to good management
Mar 29 14:20:16 <MJR_III>	there is a reason our world is the way it is
Mar 29 14:20:37 <MJR_III>	its the sum of our choices, mostly made through individual rational choices
Mar 29 14:21:00 <Diablo-D3>	>16yo aspies
Mar 29 14:21:01 <Diablo-D3>	who?
Mar 29 14:21:02 <MJR_III>	so...there is a reason i can buy something on one exchange and instantly sell it on another
Mar 29 14:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 exchange ops
Mar 29 14:21:55 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: but it is like mpex...someone has to do it, and let others build on it
Mar 29 14:21:59 <Diablo-D3>	ahh
Mar 29 14:22:14 <MJR_III>	similar to how you say that the whole world can't be hedging
Mar 29 14:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III so far even a fucking naming convention is impossible to contemplate, let alone implem,ent.
Mar 29 14:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	at this rate we'll have a btc equiv for fix in 2050
Mar 29 14:22:37 <MJR_III>	we can use fix now though
Mar 29 14:22:43 <MJR_III>	i am already working on an engine
Mar 29 14:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	tbh fix kinda sucks, but yea
Mar 29 14:22:51 <MJR_III>	well yeah
Mar 29 14:22:51 <smickles>	at one exchange, who is insolvent
Mar 29 14:22:53 <MJR_III>	its not great
Mar 29 14:23:13 <MJR_III>	this is the thing about bitfloor
Mar 29 14:23:21 <MJR_III>	it has the best model of all exchanges
Mar 29 14:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	smickles the redeem codes was a sorta attempt, but meh.
Mar 29 14:23:27 <MJR_III>	its the most convenient for me
Mar 29 14:23:33 <smickles>	but so much debt
Mar 29 14:23:36 <MJR_III>	yes of course
Mar 29 14:23:41 <MJR_III>	again that comes down to execution
Mar 29 14:23:49 <MJR_III>	and i think poor choices as far as resolving that
Mar 29 14:23:50 <smickles>	i would use bitfloor more often if it weren't for that debt
Mar 29 14:23:57 <MJR_III>	for example
Mar 29 14:23:59 <smickles>	and they owe me ~15 btc
Mar 29 14:24:01 <MJR_III>	the guy who runs it
Mar 29 14:24:11 <MJR_III>	wants to pay back everything in btc while collecting fees in dollars
Mar 29 14:24:17 <MJR_III>	which will never work
Mar 29 14:24:19 <mircea_popescu>	ya. nonsense huh
Mar 29 14:24:26 <MJR_III>	you either do what a real company would do
Mar 29 14:24:31 <MJR_III>	and file bankruptcy
Mar 29 14:24:36 <smickles>	much of bitfloor is opensourced
Mar 29 14:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	the girl made a very good point as to the cost of financial ineptitude vs coding inavbility
Mar 29 14:24:38 <MJR_III>	liquidate and pay back what you can
Mar 29 14:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	on the forum
Mar 29 14:24:50 <MJR_III>	or you work out a deal with the creditors
Mar 29 14:24:59 <MJR_III>	charge your fees in btc for transactions
Mar 29 14:25:06 <MJR_III>	and put a portion of them towards the debt
Mar 29 14:25:11 <smickles>	there is kinda a defacto deal with the creditors
Mar 29 14:25:17 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 29 14:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	listen MJR_III this fees stuff... think for a moment. no exchanger makes money.
Mar 29 14:25:25 <MJR_III>	but he owed 250k now it is over a million
Mar 29 14:25:27 <smickles>	and he did recently make a 1% payment
Mar 29 14:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	you have cases with 10k a month which come to 200 btc.
Mar 29 14:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	or you have mtgox, which clears about enough to cover its costs.
Mar 29 14:25:51 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: how do you figure?
Mar 29 14:25:54 <MJR_III>	;;ticker
Mar 29 14:25:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.03000, Best ask: 89.50999, Bid-ask spread: 0.47999, Last trade: 89.03000, 24 hour volume: 155306.17401255, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 94.32000, 24 hour vwap: 86.37012
Mar 29 14:26:03 <smickles>	and really, because of his jurisdiction, he owes the usd value of the btc at the time of the theft
Mar 29 14:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III simply like this : i look at the immense fees.
Mar 29 14:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	since there's no competition on fees its clearly not a profitable space.
Mar 29 14:26:30 <MJR_III>	;;calc 155306 * 86.37 * .004
Mar 29 14:26:31 <gribble>	53655.11688
Mar 29 14:26:44 <MJR_III>	there expenses are higher than 53k a day?
Mar 29 14:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	a day ?
Mar 29 14:26:59 <MJR_III>	that is their volume for the last 24 hours
Mar 29 14:27:05 <MJR_III>	at current vwap
Mar 29 14:27:10 <smickles>	MJR_III: do the 30day avg/30
Mar 29 14:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	i dont think theior avg is 150 a day.
Mar 29 14:27:27 <smickles>	and this past month would't be the best indicator
Mar 29 14:27:30 <MJR_III>	true
Mar 29 14:27:32 <MJR_III>	but still
Mar 29 14:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	well, it looks better now for sure.
Mar 29 14:27:43 <MJR_III>	they make well over a million a month i think
Mar 29 14:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	but take a 1year outlook, it's healthier
Mar 29 14:27:52 <MJR_III>	good point
Mar 29 14:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	let's do some rl math :
Mar 29 14:27:58 <MJR_III>	i've been watching for a while
Mar 29 14:28:04 <MJR_III>	and they have a ton of volume and very high fees
Mar 29 14:28:18 <MJR_III>	and i believe that some of the fees is in dollars and some in btc...not sure how they work that out
Mar 29 14:28:19 <smickles>	let me do some sql
Mar 29 14:28:25 <tiberiusiv>	gypsy math coming from mircea
Mar 29 14:28:27 <MJR_III>	smickles: NICE
Mar 29 14:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	( 2400 salary + 2800 tax + 1500 fixed) * 5 = 30k usd in employee costs.
Mar 29 14:28:37 <MJR_III>	ugh, it doesn't auto-ignore tiberiusiv
Mar 29 14:29:06 <MJR_III>	ok...
Mar 29 14:29:09 <MJR_III>	with you so far
Mar 29 14:29:11 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is upset he wasnt featured on any sites
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Mar 29 14:29:22 <tiberiusiv>	to date mpex has been largely ignored by everyone
Mar 29 14:29:35 <tiberiusiv>	as just another scum operation
Mar 29 14:29:48 <MJR_III>	but also...just because they are the best and have first mover advantage does not mean that they are running a good exchange
Mar 29 14:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	whatever you do for servers and the sysadmins etc
Mar 29 14:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	fixed costs ate them alive all through 2012.
Mar 29 14:30:06 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is jelous of large and more recognized ops(mtgox)
Mar 29 14:30:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.37 = 9.25 BTC [+]
Mar 29 14:30:27 <tiberiusiv>	mentioned by many newspapers etc
Mar 29 14:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	but this is the case of mtgox. be it as it may, in most spaces the top dog can at least pay his salt.
Mar 29 14:30:29 <MJR_III>	yeah i could see that
Mar 29 14:30:34 <tiberiusiv>	while mpex has recieved *0* media coverage
Mar 29 14:30:39 <MJR_III>	true
Mar 29 14:30:41 <mircea_popescu>	think a little about the 10k a month and under exchanges.
Mar 29 14:30:46 <MJR_III>	of course
Mar 29 14:30:59 <MJR_III>	lower expenses though
Mar 29 14:31:03 <MJR_III>	one person runs bitfloor
Mar 29 14:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Mar 29 14:31:09 <mircea_popescu>	ya. and we've seen the costs of that.
Mar 29 14:31:10 <MJR_III>	and he owns it
Mar 29 14:31:13 <MJR_III>	well...
Mar 29 14:31:17 <MJR_III>	fair point
Mar 29 14:31:20 <tiberiusiv>	MJR shut the fuck up lol
Mar 29 14:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is, it takes 9 months to get a child out of a woman. not negotiable.
Mar 29 14:31:27 <tiberiusiv>	you have no idea what you are talking about
Mar 29 14:31:29 <MJR_III>	but every exchange including mt gox and excluding mpex has been hacked
Mar 29 14:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	you run an exchange you need some people. not negotiable.
Mar 29 14:31:34 <smickles>	17590762.3519516 btc volume this year, if i mathed correctly
Mar 29 14:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	the guy that can do the job of 5 people is NOT cheaper than hiring the 5 people.
Mar 29 14:31:48 <smickles>	this year being the past 365 days to the second
Mar 29 14:31:54 <MJR_III>	nice
Mar 29 14:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	smickles so over 1mn a month even ?
Mar 29 14:32:23 <smickles>	;;calc 17590762.3519516/12
Mar 29 14:32:24 <gribble>	1465896.86266
Mar 29 14:32:25 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: mircea the liar has NOT been mentiond by anyone credible since mpex launched.
Mar 29 14:32:28 <tiberiusiv>	that should tell you something
Mar 29 14:32:34 <MJR_III>	around 1.5 mil
Mar 29 14:32:52 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: you don't like bitcoin magazine?
Mar 29 14:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III now think of the legal bills to defend that million.
Mar 29 14:33:09 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: that isnt any major independent party
Mar 29 14:33:14 <MJR_III>	there are some costs true
Mar 29 14:33:15 <smickles>	kk
Mar 29 14:33:22 <tiberiusiv>	for all his "claimed" volume
Mar 29 14:33:28 <mircea_popescu>	see, it's a mixed blessing. a year ago they made red ink but at least knew all the costs.
Mar 29 14:33:33 <tiberiusiv>	not a single party has even interviewed the scumbag
Mar 29 14:33:35 <MJR_III>	trust me, i understand the problems with trying to get the scale you need to make things worthwhile
Mar 29 14:33:39 <tiberiusiv>	the man is a dengerate pornographer
Mar 29 14:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	today they make decent dough, but also need an entire arsenal at the ready.
Mar 29 14:33:52 <MJR_III>	but most businesses have to invest ahead of the growth curvve
Mar 29 14:34:00 <tiberiusiv>	thats where it ends
Mar 29 14:34:42 <MJR_III>	like i always say, if you are not bullish on bitcoins, why start a company in this space
Mar 29 14:35:22 <MJR_III>	so as with all entrepreneurial endeveavors, there is risk and up front costs
Mar 29 14:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i don't see them using a dc honestly.
Mar 29 14:35:36 <MJR_III>	but that is the bet you want to make, if you believe you are right
Mar 29 14:35:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: they already are
Mar 29 14:35:42 <mircea_popescu>	if i were runningtheir outfit i'd rend out a warehouse with a good triphase line
Mar 29 14:35:46 <mircea_popescu>	somethingthat had a crane or w/e
Mar 29 14:35:46 <Diablo-D3>	just some shitty chinese ones
Mar 29 14:36:09 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: so you suggest that he's a scammer b/c he's romainian and allows people to post pictures you don't like, i understand that. What would you suggest my course of action be based on this information?
Mar 29 14:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	or whatever you call industrial power in english. 380 volt
Mar 29 14:36:32 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 29 14:36:37 <MJR_III>	smickles is so polite
Mar 29 14:36:41 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you mean 400v on site?
Mar 29 14:36:44 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 29 14:36:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [-]
Mar 29 14:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	there's plenty of practically abandoned industrial space
Mar 29 14:37:05 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: easier to just have 208v three phase and then bring it down to 48v dc
Mar 29 14:37:09 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: you need triphase if you are going to have that much
Mar 29 14:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	><< a warehouse with a good triphase line <><
Mar 29 14:37:29 <MJR_III>	yep
Mar 29 14:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	and just pile them in there, forget a dc.
Mar 29 14:37:46 <mircea_popescu>	get an actual optic fiber link
Mar 29 14:37:50 <MJR_III>	that is what the data centers we use hve
Mar 29 14:37:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [-]
Mar 29 14:37:53 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: yes he engages in activities that the majority of normal people find disgusting/repulsive.
Mar 29 14:37:53 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but all you're doing is making it into a DC
Mar 29 14:37:56 <mircea_popescu>	which most cities you can have installed for w/e, 1k per meter or somesuch
Mar 29 14:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 minus a lot of the overhead. i think at least.
Mar 29 14:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	just napkinning here.
Mar 29 14:38:12 <tiberiusiv>	nobody with a shred of credibility has spoken to mircea
Mar 29 14:38:19 <Diablo-D3>	no, you just need to recreate the overhead
Mar 29 14:38:23 <Diablo-D3>	cooling is not cheap
Mar 29 14:38:32 <MJR_III>	Diablo-D3: i was wondering about that today
Mar 29 14:38:38 <MJR_III>	cooling costs
Mar 29 14:38:45 <mircea_popescu>	you just...
Mar 29 14:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	o i know!
Mar 29 14:38:48 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: mircea being an egomaniac cannot stand that every other btc business is mentioned(mtgox) and not him
Mar 29 14:38:48 <smickles>	ok, so add the lack of a mainstream interview to evidence that he's a scammer
Mar 29 14:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	you just dump nitro ice on the ground
Mar 29 14:39:04 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: i would say more of a fraud then a scammer.
Mar 29 14:39:06 <MJR_III>	why has no one tried this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtufuXLvOok
Mar 29 14:39:32 <jcpham>	i've seen a submerged oil rig
Mar 29 14:39:35 <jcpham>	with my eyes
Mar 29 14:39:37 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: kk, fraud does seem more apt than scammer
Mar 29 14:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway, maybe you're right Diablo-D3, dc is the way to go
Mar 29 14:39:41 <jcpham>	not something i'd want to do
Mar 29 14:39:49 <MJR_III>	yes, why has no one tried an oil rig for a miner?
Mar 29 14:39:51 <jcpham>	pretty messy to un-submerge
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Mar 29 14:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III what;'s the benefit ?
Mar 29 14:40:07 <MJR_III>	well you should probably never unsubmerge, or once a year
Mar 29 14:40:13 <MJR_III>	they can get cpu's up to 8ghz
Mar 29 14:40:16 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: I would be upset too if i had an operation the size of mpex and got left out of media attention
Mar 29 14:40:27 <MJR_III>	vs 3ghz normally
Mar 29 14:40:39 <MJR_III>	it won't interfere with the electrical operations but dissipates heat better
Mar 29 14:40:42 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: because his operation is 1 /1000th what he exagerates it to be
Mar 29 14:40:44 <jcpham>	to do gpu's you'd have to remove the fans
Mar 29 14:40:48 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 29 14:40:53 <jcpham>	so heatsink only
Mar 29 14:41:01 <MJR_III>	i was thinking an asic though would be heatsink only
Mar 29 14:41:07 <jcpham>	i assume that oil dissipates more heat than air no matter what
Mar 29 14:41:08 <MJR_III>	and then you pump the oil through a cooler
Mar 29 14:41:08 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: *nobody* wants a greasy porn obsessed romanian on their media pages...
Mar 29 14:41:12 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: i don't think he exaggerates, he just speaks of the notational numbers because they are bigger
Mar 29 14:41:15 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: why do you think I'm working out a $250m plan thats all involving a DC?
Mar 29 14:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	o THAT kind of oil rig
Mar 29 14:41:22 <MJR_III>	hehehe
Mar 29 14:41:26 <jcpham>	seems like gpus would really heat up oil
Mar 29 14:41:27 <mircea_popescu>	i was wtfing all to hell here thining you know... crude oil
Mar 29 14:41:29 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: yes he does overexagerate
Mar 29 14:41:30 <jcpham>	much more so than you think
Mar 29 14:41:37 <MJR_III>	i'm sure they would
Mar 29 14:41:41 <MJR_III>	but you can pump it through a cooler
Mar 29 14:41:55 <jcpham>	oh so the oil is cooled
Mar 29 14:42:00 <MJR_III>	and i am almost certain you could clock them faster
Mar 29 14:42:15 <MJR_III>	saying you COULD cool the oil i think in this example there was no need
Mar 29 14:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham use a heat exchanger to power a little steam turbine
Mar 29 14:42:18 <jcpham>	gpu mining really should be dead at this point
Mar 29 14:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	infinitr power
Mar 29 14:42:23 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: I haven't noticed an exaggeration. Are you talking about something you saw in irc or on a webpage?
Mar 29 14:42:25 <jcpham>	no sense in it
Mar 29 14:42:37 <MJR_III>	jcpham: i mean for a real industrial asic plant
Mar 29 14:42:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00068292 = 1.3658 BTC [+]
Mar 29 14:42:56 <MJR_III>	its a super simple chip at the end of the day
Mar 29 14:43:00 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: the fact that a *55* million marketcap scam bazaar has low daily volume should tell you something
Mar 29 14:43:07 <MJR_III>	and all that matters is clock cycles
Mar 29 14:43:12 <tiberiusiv>	most MPEX activity happens when mircea is active
Mar 29 14:43:15 <MJR_III>	so just try to do more per second
Mar 29 14:43:28 <tiberiusiv>	when hes not around volume plummets
Mar 29 14:43:39 <MJR_III>	in fact...you wouldn't even need most of the stuff to be submerged
Mar 29 14:43:56 <MJR_III>	just the asic...and use a raspberry pi or whatever as the controller...it could hold the blockchain etrc
Mar 29 14:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if it'd be practical to make your asic farm in a small siberian town
Mar 29 14:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	and just aircool
Mar 29 14:44:17 <MJR_III>	i wonder
Mar 29 14:44:21 <MJR_III>	that could also work
Mar 29 14:44:22 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: though, that market cap does seem high to me, it is consistant with the amount of buys from people other than mircea_popescu that I know of myself
Mar 29 14:44:48 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: no it isnt. its his inflated price and dumping shares onto gullible individuals
Mar 29 14:44:57 <tiberiusiv>	through his clever speaking etc
Mar 29 14:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	eh gtfo. facebook doesn't have a revenue model, is worth 100bn
Mar 29 14:45:04 <tiberiusiv>	look how few regulars are active here on a given day
Mar 29 14:45:06 <MJR_III>	not sure if even cold siberian air would allow for the levels of ghz that oil would
Mar 29 14:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	mpex makes money since day one, 50mn is too hig.
Mar 29 14:45:19 <mircea_popescu>	bitch, you got it backwards.
Mar 29 14:45:22 <tiberiusiv>	nobody trades mpex shares in large
Mar 29 14:45:34 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: most of the activity happening when mircea_popescu is around, doesn't really indicate that mircea_popescu is the cause of said activity
Mar 29 14:45:37 <MJR_III>	i wouldn't engage, you are giving him what he wants
Mar 29 14:45:45 <tiberiusiv>	mircea mpex makes pennys hence why you still live in a ghetto.
Mar 29 14:45:58 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: oh stop continueing on.
Mar 29 14:46:02 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III lol engage, that word got ruined by startrek
Mar 29 14:46:10 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 29 14:46:17 <MJR_III>	i like star trek somewhat
Mar 29 14:46:21 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is a dubious character with disgusting qualities, hence nobody wants to be around him
Mar 29 14:46:27 <MJR_III>	only really original and next generation
Mar 29 14:46:31 <tiberiusiv>	he needs his monkeys to feed his ego of being a failed businessman
Mar 29 14:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III not air. WATER! run a stream through your thing
Mar 29 14:46:42 <tiberiusiv>	i mean he ran a lowlevel torture pornsite for $
Mar 29 14:46:43 <MJR_III>	you could water cool too
Mar 29 14:46:49 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: you don't think that activity could increase from other people in similar timezones to mircea_popescu ?
Mar 29 14:46:50 <tiberiusiv>	until he found bitcoin
Mar 29 14:46:57 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 29 14:46:57 <MJR_III>	but i think oil is the best heat dissapater
Mar 29 14:47:03 <tiberiusiv>	its HIM
Mar 29 14:47:05 <TomServo>	tiberiusiv: which one of these is you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWiyonefHXo
Mar 29 14:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	nah, water is like 4300 caloric capacity
Mar 29 14:47:12 <MJR_III>	and any gain from siberian cold could be translated to oil
Mar 29 14:47:20 <MJR_III>	acute heat dissapation
Mar 29 14:47:27 <MJR_III>	the oil can actually touch the chip
Mar 29 14:47:30 <tiberiusiv>	LOL tomservo
Mar 29 14:47:32 <MJR_III>	the water can't
Mar 29 14:47:44 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: aslo, from what i've read of the polimedia financials, most of his money used to come from consulting
Mar 29 14:47:57 <tiberiusiv>	hes a liar
Mar 29 14:47:59 <tiberiusiv>	look at his living standard
Mar 29 14:48:08 <tiberiusiv>	shithole apartment.
Mar 29 14:48:13 <tiberiusiv>	his money came from running lowlevel porn
Mar 29 14:48:15 <tiberiusiv>	in romania girls are DIRT cheap
Mar 29 14:48:24 <tiberiusiv>	$50 is like 5k to them
Mar 29 14:48:37 <tiberiusiv>	nobody "consults" in romania.
Mar 29 14:48:51 <smickles>	how can that be true?
Mar 29 14:49:00 <smickles>	surely there are business in romania
Mar 29 14:49:01 <tiberiusiv>	mircea lives in romania because with his scams he can buy judges/cops etc.
Mar 29 14:49:03 <MJR_III>	so i think that at 6hz and above...you have to worry about the small times where the heat is still on the chip before the water can suck it up
Mar 29 14:49:04 <tiberiusiv>	hes immune in romania
Mar 29 14:49:08 <tiberiusiv>	in america mircea is a nobody
Mar 29 14:49:25 <MJR_III>	smickles: careful, if you keep disagreeing you will be poor
Mar 29 14:49:30 <MJR_III>	smickles: or young
Mar 29 14:49:45 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: major business in romania is tied to politcs and smaller firms tend to be involved in crime
Mar 29 14:49:55 <tiberiusiv>	its one of the most corrupt places in europe
Mar 29 14:49:58 <smickles>	MJR_III: if you notice, i granted him the fact that mircea_popescu is a fraud and asked him what i should do about it
Mar 29 14:50:00 <tiberiusiv>	hence why mircea sits there
Mar 29 14:50:08 <tiberiusiv>	its NOT a country that facilitates business
Mar 29 14:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	dude you should stop highlighting me for one
Mar 29 14:50:15 <MJR_III>	ok, nvm you are rich
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Mar 29 14:50:31 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: our current president is from one of the most corrupt places in 'merica
Mar 29 14:50:32 <tiberiusiv>	mircea couldnt make it in the US
Mar 29 14:50:39 <tiberiusiv>	hence his obsession with bashing america
Mar 29 14:50:41 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu did you know romania si the most corrupt place in europe
Mar 29 14:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	since when ?!
Mar 29 14:50:51 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu did you know i can buy a judge for $500
Mar 29 14:50:57 <mircea_popescu>	eh get out.
Mar 29 14:50:58 <jcpham>	i read about it in this channel recently
Mar 29 14:50:58 <tiberiusiv>	mircea has a problem with anything that is vastly superior to him
Mar 29 14:51:06 <jcpham>	sorry no citations for sources, though
Mar 29 14:51:10 <MJR_III>	LOL
Mar 29 14:51:11 <jcpham>	you'll have to trust me
Mar 29 14:51:12 <tiberiusiv>	his articles tend to bash the US
Mar 29 14:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	ok. can i have 2 ?
Mar 29 14:51:24 <tiberiusiv>	jcpham citations LOL
Mar 29 14:51:26 <smickles>	and america is ripe for bashing, it does a lot of stupit shit
Mar 29 14:51:35 <MJR_III>	sure does
Mar 29 14:51:41 <tiberiusiv>	mircea bashes anything hes jelous of
Mar 29 14:51:53 <tiberiusiv>	the US is an absolute paradise compared to what goes on in romania.
Mar 29 14:52:02 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i'd say romania is about as corrupt as france.
Mar 29 14:52:10 <smickles>	at the cost of waging war everywhere
Mar 29 14:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	way behindplaces like spain or italy... or greece
Mar 29 14:52:16 <smickles>	'everywhere'
Mar 29 14:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	kinda ahead of whatever, austria
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Mar 29 14:53:16 <tiberiusiv>	lol @ behind italy.
Mar 29 14:54:16 <MJR_III>	anyways, i think if you could hash 2.5x as fast...you would be making a ton of money
Mar 29 14:54:19 <Diablo-D3>	 nc -v miku.acm.uiuc.edu 23
Mar 29 14:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	pic related : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13642337509.jpg
Mar 29 14:54:22 <smickles>	coming from a country where our dear leader has a public assasination list, corruption doesn't sound all that bad
Mar 29 14:54:27 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhxYr6h0cOw
Mar 29 14:54:42 <tiberiusiv>	50%+ of romanians have to pay bribes to get through the day.
Mar 29 14:55:27 <tiberiusiv>	smickles: assasination list? in romania its the size of a bible.
Mar 29 14:55:39 <tiberiusiv>	killing is absolutely normal
Mar 29 14:56:48 <tiberiusiv>	you cannot even compare the US to romania.
Mar 29 14:57:36 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: that video looks decades old, is it still like that?
Mar 29 14:57:45 <tiberiusiv>	yes.
Mar 29 14:57:51 <tiberiusiv>	even worse since the economic decline of 08
Mar 29 14:57:58 <tiberiusiv>	romania is decades old.
Mar 29 14:58:10 <tiberiusiv>	the place does not even have a highway network
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Mar 29 14:58:26 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: how come that video has a bunch of comments saying that it's not like that anymore?
Mar 29 14:58:55 <tiberiusiv>	well who wants to admit to it
Mar 29 14:59:00 <tiberiusiv>	quit asking stupid stuff
Mar 29 14:59:02 <tiberiusiv>	romania is POOR
Mar 29 14:59:06 <tiberiusiv>	poverty = corruption
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Mar 29 14:59:25 <smickles>	i don't think poverty = corruption
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Mar 29 15:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.44 = 4.4 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 15:00:48 <DeaDTerra1>	Looking to borrow fiat on MtGox or Bitstamp!
Mar 29 15:01:32 <smickles>	DeaDTerra1: how much?
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Mar 29 15:04:52 <DeaDTerra1>	10k$ ish, btcx.se (where I work) are totally out of float, people just got their salaries and it's now a four day holiday in Sweden...
Mar 29 15:05:08 <DeaDTerra1>	we need to stack up some float as we are already zeroed and the weekend just started
Mar 29 15:05:55 <smickles>	I think 10k is above my legal limit
Mar 29 15:07:25 <DeaDTerra1>	I can take lower amounts, as I said. We are zeroed :P I am quite desperate for any amount I can get my hands on. btcx will repay it on Monday/Tuesday when our wire hits MtGox
Mar 29 15:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160292.msg1700657#msg1700657
Mar 29 15:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha good 1
Mar 29 15:11:14 <bugpowderr>	DeaDTerra1: what rate?
Mar 29 15:11:45 <DeaDTerra1>	Let me check with the CEO ^^
Mar 29 15:12:14 <smickles>	oh, this state doesn't have an amount limit
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Mar 29 15:12:34 <smickles>	or an interest rate limit if the rate is in a contract
Mar 29 15:13:17 <MJR_III>	smickles: how is it in the jurisdiction of the state?
Mar 29 15:13:24 <MJR_III>	thought it would be in japan
Mar 29 15:13:59 <smickles>	MJR_III: i'm not sure how jurisdiction would play out, so i default to where I am
Mar 29 15:14:06 <MJR_III>	makes sense
Mar 29 15:14:27 <DeaDTerra1>	We are willing to offer 0.5-1% for a loan from today to Monday/Tuesday when the wire hits out MtGox account.
Mar 29 15:14:31 <DeaDTerra1>	does it sound reasonable?
Mar 29 15:15:48 <bugpowderr>	It's not unreasonable, but not sufficient for me. Sorry
Mar 29 15:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	maybe putting a btc ask for a slightly above mkt price may work naturally to attract fiat ?
Mar 29 15:20:00 <DeaDTerra1>	Okay no problem :), if you change your mind just pm me
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Mar 29 15:20:31 <DeaDTerra1>	Would work if we actually had some bitcoins :P
Mar 29 15:20:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.0006742 = 11.7985 BTC [-]
Mar 29 15:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00067177 = 0.5374 BTC [-]
Mar 29 15:20:55 <DeaDTerra1>	We have sent out all our bitcoins to customers
Mar 29 15:21:16 <MJR_III>	makes sense...so you can't fill new orders?
Mar 29 15:21:19 <ZedsterX>	Gox getting DDoSed?
Mar 29 15:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX tux announced it 12 hours ago
Mar 29 15:21:38 <MJR_III>	wouldn't it make sense to borrow btc then?
Mar 29 15:21:46 <DeaDTerra1>	nope, we get people who want to buy Bitcoins in Sweden, and we do not have float to buy bitcoins and send them out to the customers :9
Mar 29 15:21:46 <ZedsterX>	thank ya sir
Mar 29 15:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	no bitcoin no fiat 0.0
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Mar 29 15:22:02 <DeaDTerra1>	It would except we kind of do not want the exchange risk of borrowing BTC
Mar 29 15:22:06 <MJR_III>	well they have fiat waiting on the wire
Mar 29 15:22:18 <DeaDTerra1>	well, we have Fiat tons of it, just not on mtgox :)
Mar 29 15:22:18 <MJR_III>	DeaDTerra1: good point
Mar 29 15:22:37 <MJR_III>	a future contract maybe...
Mar 29 15:22:42 <MJR_III>	;)
Mar 29 15:22:53 <bugpowderr>	hmmm....
Mar 29 15:22:57 <bugpowderr>	pming you
Mar 29 15:23:04 <DeaDTerra1>	We have about 70k $ wire transfer on it's way to MtGox but due to bank holiday and easter it will not hit mtgox until after this weekend
Mar 29 15:23:14 <DeaDTerra1>	I will become that desperate tomorrow :P
Mar 29 15:23:27 <DeaDTerra1>	then I am thinking of just longing on bitfinex to hedge the risk and borrow BTC
Mar 29 15:23:38 <kakobrekla>	O_O
Mar 29 15:23:44 <kakobrekla>	is this bitmarket.eu rehash
Mar 29 15:24:09 <MJR_III>	short term commercial paper is so far an emerging market
Mar 29 15:24:19 <bugpowderr>	DeaDTerra1: I have a proposal, pm me.
Mar 29 15:24:24 <MJR_III>	but very interesting
Mar 29 15:24:52 <DeaDTerra1>	Yea, I would love to have a connect to future/option market
Mar 29 15:25:03 <DeaDTerra1>	so you can connect your backend and hedge all exchange risks
Mar 29 15:25:05 <sturles>	DeaDTerra1: If you sent to the bank in Japan, they don't have any Easter holidays there.
Mar 29 15:25:06 <DeaDTerra1>	it would be really cool
Mar 29 15:25:08 <MJR_III>	mpex?
Mar 29 15:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	DeaDTerra1 and why don;t you ?
Mar 29 15:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	a nm, no bitcoin i forgot.
Mar 29 15:25:59 <DeaDTerra1>	In our normal buisiness model this is not needed and also we do not have Bitcoins as our float but USD/SEK
Mar 29 15:26:06 <DeaDTerra1>	otherwise I would have
Mar 29 15:26:11 <MJR_III>	interesting
Mar 29 15:26:27 <MJR_III>	why do most exchanges collect fees in fiat...
Mar 29 15:26:45 <DeaDTerra1>	No they do not, but Swedish banks do and people just got their salary. The wire was sent yesterday so I expect it to reach Mtgod on monday/tuesday.
Mar 29 15:26:57 <mircea_popescu>	revisting bitmarket.eu :
Mar 29 15:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	"Unfortunately, without proper funding and with limited manpower running a project of this magnitude has proven to be very difficult. Recently, these problems caused for a group of users trouble and losses of funds. Ultimately, that's why we decided to shut down BitMarket.eu and stopped trading."
Mar 29 15:27:01 <MJR_III>	ah ok
Mar 29 15:27:03 <mircea_popescu>	that's a nice way to put it
Mar 29 15:27:11 <DeaDTerra1>	Didn't expect this volume :P, I guess it's the combination of everyone that wants in before the holidays and that they just got their salaries
Mar 29 15:27:26 <MJR_III>	yeah, holiday weekends are interesting
Mar 29 15:27:43 <bugpowderr>	is gox down for anyone else?
Mar 29 15:27:47 <MJR_III>	smickles: do you think that tax returns will inject more cash into the btc economy
Mar 29 15:28:26 <kakobrekla>	bugpowderr ddos
Mar 29 15:28:33 <kakobrekla>	but it opens to me
Mar 29 15:28:37 <kakobrekla>	right now
Mar 29 15:28:41 <MJR_III>	i'im on it right now
Mar 29 15:28:45 <kakobrekla>	also ziggap .. dat is fucked eh?
Mar 29 15:29:01 <MJR_III>	whats with all the ddos'ing lately
Mar 29 15:29:51 <bugpowderr>	MJR_III: yeah for sure
Mar 29 15:29:52 <kakobrekla>	re ziggap https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.msg1700531#msg1700531
Mar 29 15:31:31 <MJR_III>	good article
Mar 29 15:31:39 <MJR_III>	management, management, management
Mar 29 15:32:25 <bugpowderr>	its a same Deprived doesn't hang out here
Mar 29 15:32:31 <MJR_III>	yeah
Mar 29 15:33:26 <bugpowderr>	shame
Mar 29 15:33:34 <MJR_III>	figured that's what you meant
Mar 29 15:33:50 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 29 15:33:55 <thestringpuller>	nooo
Mar 29 15:34:02 <ThickAsThieves>	I have Deprived my coinbr referall as a tip, and invited him here
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Mar 29 15:34:06 <ThickAsThieves>	he said he'd consider it
Mar 29 15:34:14 <ThickAsThieves>	once his laptop was fixed
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Mar 29 15:34:42 <ThickAsThieves>	have=gave
Mar 29 15:34:53 <MJR_III>	nice
Mar 29 15:35:11 <MJR_III>	i don't really like the bitcointalk forums, so i am glad you guys are here to tell me the best articles
Mar 29 15:36:20 <jborkl>	MJR_III : I was wrong about the diff retarget- my bad
Mar 29 15:36:31 <MJR_III>	jborkl: no worries
Mar 29 15:37:37 <MJR_III>	;;calc 6695826.2825963*4
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Mar 29 15:39:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.445 = 22.25 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 15:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	bugpowderr tell him. i have.
Mar 29 15:47:07 <bugpowderr>	i sent him a message
Mar 29 15:47:14 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Mar 29 15:47:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.80000000 / 1.83999412 / 1.92000000 (17 shares, 31.27990000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.72493945 / 2.00000000 (180 shares, 310.48910090 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.8649577 / 17.25000000 (715 shares, 1333.44475269 BTC)
Mar 29 15:47:29 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.mPoe
Mar 29 15:47:30 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062187 / 0.00066672 / 0.00068292 (568576 shares, 379.08 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.00066359 / 0.00071369 (2166747 shares, 1,437.85 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.00073309 / 0.00078628 (17281635 shares, 12,669.03 BTC)
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Mar 29 15:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.40001 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Mar 29 15:51:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.391 = 1.955 BTC [-]
Mar 29 15:51:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 15:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.00394014 = 14.1845 BTC [-]
Mar 29 15:59:16 <smickles>	MJR_III: people tend to spend tax returns on stupid shit, and i'm sure there are plenty of people who consider bitcoins stupid shit
Mar 29 16:02:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2109 @ 0.00068292 = 1.4403 BTC [+]
Mar 29 16:02:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00068293 = 0.8878 BTC [+]
Mar 29 16:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068294 = 3.4147 BTC [+]
Mar 29 16:02:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15191 @ 0.00068314 = 10.3776 BTC [+]
Mar 29 16:03:50 <bugpowderr>	lol
Mar 29 16:04:13 <bugpowderr>	Yah, people think "free money!"  Let's roll the dice
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Mar 29 16:05:55 <smickles>	i plan to use my 'return' on my car loan
Mar 29 16:06:14 <smickles>	you fuckers gave me about 5 grand in eic
Mar 29 16:06:21 <smickles>	thanks :D
Mar 29 16:06:21 <bugpowderr>	;;bids 0
Mar 29 16:06:48 <bugpowderr>	no gribbbbber?
Mar 29 16:07:02 <smickles>	;;pet
Mar 29 16:07:02 <gribble>	*purrrrrrrr*
Mar 29 16:07:06 <smickles>	bugpowderr: no gox
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Mar 29 16:09:33 <bugpowderr>	i wanna know the summed bids
Mar 29 16:09:44 <bugpowderr>	That wall at 76 must have put us over 10MM
Mar 29 16:10:21 <smickles>	214000
Mar 29 16:10:48 <smickles>	76: 55000
Mar 29 16:10:53 <smickles>	(both in btc)
Mar 29 16:10:58 <smickles>	;;bids 0
Mar 29 16:11:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.131 = 0.262 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:12:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [+]
Mar 29 16:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.39 = 7.02 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:13:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.380112 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:13:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3700001 = 0.74 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:13:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.37000001 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:13:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:13:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.355 = 3.55 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:13:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.35 = 5.95 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:14:18 <bugpowderr>	approaching minimum 24hr vwap...
Mar 29 16:14:30 <ThickAsThieves>	havelockers will not stand for no divs!
Mar 29 16:14:35 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 29 16:14:53 <topace>	arbitrage
Mar 29 16:15:01 <topace>	been getting a lot of push requests lately
Mar 29 16:15:09 <topace>	people buying on mpex and selling on havelock
Mar 29 16:15:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1075 BTC [+]
Mar 29 16:15:49 <ThickAsThieves>	mpex has been hanging above .0037 for days no?
Mar 29 16:16:21 <deadweasel>	;;eauth
Mar 29 16:16:22 <gribble>	(eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
Mar 29 16:18:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.0037 = 11.84 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:18:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.003615 = 7.23 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:18:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1512 @ 0.00361 = 5.4583 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:18:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.003601 = 3.601 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:18:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00360001 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:21:16 <pgp>	based on the idea that asic devices will eventually start shipping, does anyone have an estimate on how much extra hashing power is likely to come online within the next few months?
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Mar 29 16:22:50 <smickles>	$vwap dice
Mar 29 16:22:51 <mpexbot>	smickles: S.DICE 1 day: average: 0.00396702 high: 0.00419995 low: 0.00360001 volume: 31375 btc: 124.46532743 7 day: average: 0.00339187 high: 0.0045 low: 0.0031 volume: 678237 btc: 2300.4892668 30 day: average: 0.00453418 high: 0.0063799 low: 0.00300001 volume: 1714919 btc: 7775.7474019
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Mar 29 16:23:18 <topace>	;;ticker h sdice
Mar 29 16:23:23 <smickles>	!
Mar 29 16:23:27 <topace>	lol yea
Mar 29 16:23:32 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 29 16:23:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.35000000 / 0.40726766 / 0.46500000 (265 shares, 107.92593120 BTC), 7D: 0.35000000 / 0.46365078 / 0.53000000 (1486 shares, 688.98505175 BTC), 30D: 0.35000000 / 0.51934247 / 0.68950000 (5763 shares, 2992.97064753 BTC)
Mar 29 16:23:41 <topace>	!ticker mp s.dice
Mar 29 16:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00360001 / 0.00396702 / 0.00419995 (31375 shares, 124.47 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00339186 / 0.0045 (678237 shares, 2,300.49 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00453417 / 0.0063799 (1714919 shares, 7,775.75 BTC)
Mar 29 16:24:07 <topace>	not bad for havelock having 10% of the shares
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Mar 29 16:27:42 <smickles>	you mean 1% ;)
Mar 29 16:28:40 <topace>	well 10% of the shares that are actually trading on mpex
Mar 29 16:28:49 <topace>	more than 1% of the toal
Mar 29 16:28:51 <topace>	1.3% !
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Mar 29 16:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1784 @ 0.00337335 = 6.0181 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 16:33:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00068081 = 11.7099 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32150 @ 0.00067177 = 21.5974 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 16:35:16 <pgp>	what's the deal with gox allowing you to put in orders that exceed your balance?
Mar 29 16:35:46 <smickles>	pgp: bugpowderr seems to know more about it, but basically, they let you do it
Mar 29 16:35:52 <smickles>	$vwap mpoe
Mar 29 16:35:54 <mpexbot>	smickles: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00067061 high: 0.00068314 low: 0.0006357 volume: 604261 btc: 405.22276531 7 day: average: 0.00066388 high: 0.00071369 low: 0.0006 volume: 2226197 btc: 1477.93072672 30 day: average: 0.00073286 high: 0.00078628 low: 0.0006 volume: 17354585 btc: 12718.4554152
Mar 29 16:36:32 <pgp>	so, concievable much of the order book dept could be totally bogus
Mar 29 16:36:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.7514 = 10.5196 BTC [+]
Mar 29 16:36:55 <smickles>	bugpowderr seems to think it isnt
Mar 29 16:36:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7513 = 7.513 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:37:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7511 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:37:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:37:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 40 @ 0.131 = 5.24 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:37:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:37:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:37:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:37:40 <bugpowderr>	pgp all orders that display in the book are fully funded
Mar 29 16:38:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.745 = 2.98 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:38:05 <bugpowderr>	you can place additional orders, but they will be listed as 'insufficient funds' and will not show on the book.
Mar 29 16:38:13 <error4733>	topace : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1700294#msg1700294
Mar 29 16:38:34 <pgp>	got it...
Mar 29 16:38:47 <bugpowderr>	They will appear on the book if you add additional funds
Mar 29 16:39:12 <bugpowderr>	for example, if you are waiting for funds to clear, but you want to go to sleep, you can place the order and go to sleep
Mar 29 16:39:23 <bugpowderr>	when funds clear it will automatically hit the book
Mar 29 16:40:48 <kakobrekla>	well this is fun https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160527.0;topicseen
Mar 29 16:42:40 <jcpham>	bleh
Mar 29 16:42:47 <jcpham>	so much text and screenshots
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Mar 29 16:46:30 <deadweasel>	kakobrekla: it's like daytime television.
Mar 29 16:47:13 <topace>	heh so bfl now has a working asic, but its using too much power
Mar 29 16:47:16 <topace>	funny
Mar 29 16:47:24 <deadweasel>	it's probably catching fire
Mar 29 16:47:34 <kakobrekla>	what
Mar 29 16:47:37 <kakobrekla>	sauce?
Mar 29 16:47:39 <pgp>	they subcontracted to boeing...
Mar 29 16:47:42 <Ukto>	does this mean bfl will putoff releasing the asics until they get power under control ?
Mar 29 16:48:05 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 29 16:48:07 <gribble>	86.09
Mar 29 16:48:21 <topace>	We've been tracking down a power issue these last few days and have it isolated to a few key systems. In the interest of time, we are planning on potentially scaling back units hashing speed as required to accommodate the extra power and shipping multiple units to those that want their units right now. If would would prefer to wait for a unit after we've made some changes to the systems that need a bit of tweaking, we will be happy to put your sh
Mar 29 16:48:21 <topace>	ipment on hold. However, if you'd rather have the units right now at an increased power usage, we will ship you as many units as required to get you to the hashrate your purchased, if we end up having to scale back any given class of unit to fit within the power envelope of the current board design.
Mar 29 16:48:21 <topace>	 
Mar 29 16:48:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Mar 29 16:48:35 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Mar 29 16:48:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006357 / 0.0006706 / 0.00068314 (604261 shares, 405.22 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.00066388 / 0.00071369 (2226197 shares, 1,477.93 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.00073285 / 0.00078628 (17354585 shares, 12,718.46 BTC)
Mar 29 16:48:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1001 = 1.001 BTC [+]
Mar 29 16:48:45 <thestringpuller>	ahahahahaha
Mar 29 16:48:58 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you are my bitcoin hero
Mar 29 16:49:02 <taub>	dawwnn of battle, bears, CHARGE
Mar 29 16:49:13 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 29 16:50:26 <thestringpuller>	oh no gribble is down
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Mar 29 16:54:13 <bugpowderr>	gonna be a fun weekend
Mar 29 16:55:25 <pgp>	bugpowderr - any predictions?
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Mar 29 16:56:56 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Mar 29 16:56:57 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 29 16:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.479 = 0.958 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 17:01:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.004087 = 0.0409 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:01:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00409 = 0.0818 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:01:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.004113 = 0.0082 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:01:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36569 @ 0.00067177 = 24.566 BTC [-]
Mar 29 17:01:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13381 @ 0.00067955 = 9.0931 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 17:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	of all the stupid bs forum drama
Mar 29 17:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	that avalon thing...
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Mar 29 17:09:20 <jcpham>	http://i.imgur.com/Wq5jpqx.jpg
Mar 29 17:12:02 <pgp>	lots of drama
Mar 29 17:12:48 <MJR_III>	to all those people saying btc isn't backed by anything...it's backed by drama
Mar 29 17:13:03 <pgp>	it's a 1849 style gold rush in ASICs right now
Mar 29 17:13:21 <MJR_III>	yep and i think avalon is the clear winner so far
Mar 29 17:13:31 <MJR_III>	pickaxes
Mar 29 17:13:32 <pgp>	makes people craxy
Mar 29 17:13:54 <MJR_III>	the bitbet BFL decision will be fun to watch
Mar 29 17:14:15 <pgp>	those pickaxes have gone up in value ALOT since they wre pre-ordered...
Mar 29 17:14:25 <MJR_III>	yep
Mar 29 17:14:31 <pgp>	ebay list many of them at 1000% of MSRP
Mar 29 17:15:21 <MJR_III>	think they sold out batch 3 in under an hour...thats 600 x 80 btc AT LEAST for a total of 24000 btc
Mar 29 17:15:47 <pgp>	how many TH in batch 3?
Mar 29 17:15:56 <MJR_III>	;;calc 24000*88
Mar 29 17:15:57 <gribble>	2112000
Mar 29 17:16:09 <MJR_III>	not a bad sale i would say
Mar 29 17:16:23 <MJR_III>	i think batch 3 was 600 units at 66gh each
Mar 29 17:16:27 <MJR_III>	minimum
Mar 29 17:16:35 <MJR_III>	you could order the 88gh version
Mar 29 17:16:38 <error4733>	1/3 at 86 imo
Mar 29 17:16:45 <error4733>	*88
Mar 29 17:17:00 <MJR_III>	yep
Mar 29 17:17:15 <MJR_III>	so...200 * 88 and 400 * 66
Mar 29 17:17:20 <error4733>	;;calc 66*400
Mar 29 17:17:21 <gribble>	26400
Mar 29 17:17:35 <error4733>	;;calc 88*200
Mar 29 17:17:35 <gribble>	17600
Mar 29 17:17:56 <MJR_III>	;;calc 26400+17600
Mar 29 17:17:57 <gribble>	44000
Mar 29 17:17:59 <error4733>	;;calc 17600+26400 /1000
Mar 29 17:17:59 <gribble>	17626.4
Mar 29 17:18:04 <MJR_III>	44 TH
Mar 29 17:18:09 <pgp>	http://mineforeman.com/2013/03/04/more-avalon-asic-miners-delivered/
Mar 29 17:18:37 <pgp>	say that batch 1 and 2 ws a total of 60 TH - 100% of current network hash rate
Mar 29 17:18:38 <error4733>	;;diff
Mar 29 17:18:57 <MJR_III>	pgp: i don't think it would be that much
Mar 29 17:19:02 <MJR_III>	the largest batch was batch 3
Mar 29 17:19:07 <MJR_III>	and that is a total of 44 TH
Mar 29 17:19:13 <MJR_III>	batch 2 was half the size
Mar 29 17:19:18 <MJR_III>	300 units
Mar 29 17:19:32 <error4733>	any shipping date for #3 ?
Mar 29 17:19:41 <MJR_III>	last i saw they pushed back
Mar 29 17:19:48 <MJR_III>	batch 2 is just getting delivered now
Mar 29 17:20:02 <error4733>	amazing story !
Mar 29 17:20:06 <MJR_III>	and i THINK, but i may be completely wrong, that may 15th is target delivery date for batch 3
Mar 29 17:20:40 <MJR_III>	Yifu wrote something about that but I can't find the link
Mar 29 17:20:56 <error4733>	still before than BFL imo :)
Mar 29 17:21:18 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Mar 29 17:21:34 <pizzaman1337>	laaaag
Mar 29 17:21:39 <MJR_III>	error4733: yeah
Mar 29 17:21:42 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Mar 29 17:21:43 <gribble>	0 seconds
Mar 29 17:21:48 <MJR_III>	BFL keeps saying, oh tomorrow
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Mar 29 17:22:11 <MJR_III>	avalon got it, they understood what it takes to get the product to market
Mar 29 17:22:25 <MJR_III>	AND understood that being first was more important
Mar 29 17:22:30 <error4733>	i guess you read that : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b8hvt/bfl_josh_updates_on_asic_status_full_transcript/
Mar 29 17:22:35 <MJR_III>	they used 110nm process
Mar 29 17:22:39 <MJR_III>	instead of 45nm
Mar 29 17:22:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00459 = 0.0918 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:23:00 <MJR_III>	so BFL's stated design may be a better product
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Mar 29 17:23:10 <MJR_III>	but so far it is nonexistent
Mar 29 17:23:21 <bgupta>	Yeah need to ship to stay in the game
Mar 29 17:23:43 <ThickAsThieves>	my response on the issue of flash IPOs and Early Bird priced IPOs: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.msg1701638#msg1701638
Mar 29 17:23:46 <bgupta>	sometimes worse is better
Mar 29 17:23:47 <MJR_III>	just another example of management trumping design specs or programming knowledge
Mar 29 17:24:00 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 29 17:24:01 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00337335 / 0.00393508 / 0.00419995 (33159 shares, 130.48 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.0033864 / 0.0045 (675670 shares, 2,288.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00453297 / 0.0063799 (1716703 shares, 7,781.77 BTC)
Mar 29 17:24:07 <error4733>	MJR, i always read yifu never thinks he can succes to be first
Mar 29 17:24:14 <MJR_III>	i know
Mar 29 17:24:24 <MJR_III>	he was trying to stave off monopoly by BFL
Mar 29 17:24:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00494 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:24:26 <error4733>	so, 110nm
Mar 29 17:24:32 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 29 17:24:40 <MJR_III>	just so there would be diversification in the market
Mar 29 17:24:43 <error4733>	was not a strategic choise for time
Mar 29 17:24:50 <MJR_III>	well...he could have waited
Mar 29 17:24:54 <error4733>	just more easy & cheaper
Mar 29 17:24:57 <MJR_III>	and prob done a smaller process
Mar 29 17:25:01 <MJR_III>	EXACTLY
Mar 29 17:25:02 <MJR_III>	he just got it done
Mar 29 17:25:07 <MJR_III>	cheaper and quicker
Mar 29 17:25:12 <MJR_III>	and it works and is being delivered
Mar 29 17:25:20 <error4733>	he want do the same with tablet
Mar 29 17:25:27 <MJR_III>	I think he felt pressure to keep up with BFL
Mar 29 17:25:32 <MJR_III>	but was just way better at execution than they were
Mar 29 17:25:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.0006713 = 19.8034 BTC [-]
Mar 29 17:25:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00066822 = 8.9876 BTC [-]
Mar 29 17:25:49 <MJR_III>	fuck
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Mar 29 17:25:57 <MJR_III>	that was a lot of shares
Mar 29 17:26:20 <MJR_III>	someone thinks there won't be much of a dividend i guess
Mar 29 17:26:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7295 BTC [-]
Mar 29 17:26:42 <error4733>	i  still think in this big money business, should be easy to give 50K$ in china to fuck up a concurrent
Mar 29 17:27:07 <error4733>	for 6 month
Mar 29 17:27:54 <error4733>	change a little setting in any part of the process and you get 6 more month delay
Mar 29 17:28:02 <MJR_III>	true
Mar 29 17:28:11 <error4733>	*tinfoil hat*
Mar 29 17:28:15 <MJR_III>	think its possible but unlikely
Mar 29 17:28:32 <MJR_III>	in this specific case, there were only 3 real contenders
Mar 29 17:29:00 <MJR_III>	so weird
Mar 29 17:29:11 <MJR_III>	mt.gox is laggier than bitcoinity.org
Mar 29 17:33:08 <MJR_III>	error4733: i hope that the tablet works
Mar 29 17:34:01 <MJR_III>	i think that one thing is becoming clear, from kickstarter projects and bitcoin projects, creating a cool website is not the same thing as creating a viable business
Mar 29 17:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III better hosting :p
Mar 29 17:34:17 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/#c480
Mar 29 17:34:21 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: hehehe
Mar 29 17:34:21 <kakobrekla>	is this troll?
Mar 29 17:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	must be
Mar 29 17:35:01 <kakobrekla>	i wouldnt be suprised if it wasnt
Mar 29 17:35:01 <MJR_III>	but the main difference between web based ideas and the other businesses is interaction with the real world
Mar 29 17:35:40 <MJR_III>	everyone focuses on CEO/CTO in this space...but COO is where you really shine
Mar 29 17:36:16 <KRS1>	word.,
Mar 29 17:38:31 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: i wasn't aware that you did web hosting, but I saw the little hosted by mpex on bitcoinity
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Mar 29 17:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00066822 = 2.5726 BTC [-]
Mar 29 17:42:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00066587 = 9.8882 BTC [-]
Mar 29 17:43:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00066529 = 1.0645 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 17:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.479 = 0.958 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:46:14 <smickles>	lol, just got an email
Mar 29 17:46:34 <smickles>	mtgox will be depreciated on apr 10 due to legal issues
Mar 29 17:46:47 <MJR_III>	wait what?
Mar 29 17:46:48 <smickles>	*mtgoxusd/cad codes
Mar 29 17:47:03 <MJR_III>	yeah those will be deprecated i had heard
Mar 29 17:47:33 <pgp>	huh?
Mar 29 17:47:56 <MJR_III>	they can't use gox coupons
Mar 29 17:48:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067955 = 0.6796 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 17:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.479 = 2.395 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.479 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:53:58 <MJR_III>	here we go
Mar 29 17:54:01 <Bugpowder>	It has begun
Mar 29 17:54:09 <Bugpowder>	I got my bid in at 76.2222
Mar 29 17:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41999996 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41999997 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:55:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.41999998 = 2.1 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:55:06 <pgp>	yep...
Mar 29 17:55:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41999999 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:55:10 <KRS1>	what happens to gox accounts once "depreciated"
Mar 29 17:55:11 <MJR_III>	i'm in at 80
Mar 29 17:55:20 <MJR_III>	KRS1: he meant deprecated
Mar 29 17:55:21 <pgp>	2500 just went off
Mar 29 17:55:37 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 29 17:55:41 <MJR_III>	you just won't be able to withdraw USD via Mt. Gox USD codes i think
Mar 29 17:56:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:56:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.740995 = 1.482 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:57:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.741 BTC [+]
Mar 29 17:57:06 <KRS1>	oh my bad thanks
Mar 29 17:57:16 <MJR_III>	i'm looking into the exact details
Mar 29 17:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.42 = 21 BTC [+]
Mar 29 18:00:13 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 29 18:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.479 BTC [+]
Mar 29 18:06:22 <thestringpuller>	$oix
Mar 29 18:06:33 <thestringpuller>	!ticker ^oix
Mar 29 18:06:33 <assbot>	Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
Mar 29 18:06:39 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 29 18:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 66.95953589 / 85.06143152 / 85.06556611 (111084 shares, 22,108.25 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 29 18:07:26 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III i don't really.
Mar 29 18:07:42 <jborkl>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.1080
Mar 29 18:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 29 18:07:53 <KRS1>	lol@assbot
Mar 29 18:08:13 <KRS1>	is that his warning
Mar 29 18:08:13 <benkay>	 /join #chef
Mar 29 18:10:13 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: gribble is down
Mar 29 18:10:20 <thestringpuller>	;;gribble
Mar 29 18:10:20 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Mar 29 18:10:26 <thestringpuller>	;;asks
Mar 29 18:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Mar 29 18:10:48 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu you are working some magic...
Mar 29 18:11:17 <thestringpuller>	sometimes I wonder who actually has more power, people like you, or the blokes at the bank...
Mar 29 18:11:17 <MJR_III>	;;calc 1+1
Mar 29 18:11:17 <gribble>	2
Mar 29 18:11:27 <MJR_III>	gribble is working...
Mar 29 18:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	i has no powar
Mar 29 18:13:13 <MJR_III>	bitfinex is down i think
Mar 29 18:16:05 <smickles>	ya know, i don't recall bitcoinica going down as often as ya'll say bitfinex goes down
Mar 29 18:16:19 <smickles>	'coinica really only went down once
Mar 29 18:16:32 <MJR_III>	its back up
Mar 29 18:16:39 <MJR_III>	i think it has to do with the cloudflare anti-dddos
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Mar 29 18:19:09 <jurov>	so i just came from meeting about btc alternatives
Mar 29 18:19:19 <jurov>	that changed into ppcoin sales pitch
Mar 29 18:19:21 <MJR_III>	jurov: alt chains?
Mar 29 18:19:29 <jurov>	yes
Mar 29 18:20:00 <smickles>	jurov: what's so good about ppcoin?
Mar 29 18:20:18 <jurov>	bitcoin is too power hungry, ppcoin is more ecological
Mar 29 18:20:30 <smickles>	orly
Mar 29 18:21:07 <MJR_III>	you've lost me there
Mar 29 18:21:21 <jurov>	plus we received stern warning that moeny is not morally nutral
Mar 29 18:21:25 <MJR_III>	if you find something that uses less power, more people will mine
Mar 29 18:21:26 <jurov>	*neutral
Mar 29 18:21:39 <MJR_III>	driving difficulty up further and using the same power
Mar 29 18:21:59 <jurov>	so if we become suddenly rich, we shoudl thin about the outcome of our actions
Mar 29 18:22:09 <jurov>	and ppcoin is not using difficulty
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Mar 29 18:22:26 <MJR_III>	interesting
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Mar 29 18:22:39 <jurov>	everyone who has enough coins*time can have a right to issue a block
Mar 29 18:23:03 <jurov>	but it's not in effect yet, its mining normally until some time passes
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Mar 29 18:24:59 <jurov>	for now i'm reserving my judgement, maybe buying some just in case
Mar 29 18:26:35 <MJR_III>	while i rate all other cryptocurrencies chances as around 1% might be worth it to hold a basket of all of them, just in case
Mar 29 18:27:02 <smickles>	no upper limit on ppcoin amounts either
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Mar 29 18:28:12 <jurov>	that was mentioned too that he considers inflation as consequence of 2nd thermodynamic law and thus it should be allowed
Mar 29 18:28:20 <smickles>	i feel like the proof-of-stake bit turns it into a game, get 51% of the coins and you win
Mar 29 18:28:53 <jurov>	no, someone with older coins than you can issue blocks instead
Mar 29 18:29:27 <jurov>	you have to wait with your 51% to get the right
Mar 29 18:29:36 <jurov>	after receiving them
Mar 29 18:29:47 <smickles>	but, wouldn't that mean they have to do nothing w/ their coins to maintain
Mar 29 18:29:54 <Bugpowder>	I would love to short ripple
Mar 29 18:30:18 <jurov>	yes, if you spend the coins, you lower your weight
Mar 29 18:30:50 <jurov>	this actually would be motivation to hoard, hence inflation is necessary
Mar 29 18:30:58 <smickles>	so, if someone gets anywhere near 50%, then people have to stop spending coins to protect it
Mar 29 18:31:24 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 29 18:31:55 <MJR_III>	while it may be an interesting and novel approach
Mar 29 18:32:09 <MJR_III>	as with all the others i doubt it will gain the momentum it needs
Mar 29 18:32:27 <smickles>	lol
Mar 29 18:32:49 <jurov>	if someone gets anywhere near 50% *he* has to wait to be able to pull 51% attack, meanwhile others mine blocks and lower his part
Mar 29 18:32:54 <MJR_III>	it would need to have a signifigant advantage
Mar 29 18:33:04 <smickles>	take many massive loans, get near 50%, the claim you can't pay because you have to protect the network!
Mar 29 18:33:22 <jurov>	you *can* pay
Mar 29 18:33:34 <jurov>	but you can't use them as a proof of stake tomine
Mar 29 18:33:46 <MJR_III>	bugpowder: what's stopping you?
Mar 29 18:33:46 <jurov>	cuz all ur coins are new and shiiny
Mar 29 18:34:03 <MJR_III>	in some ways this ruins the fungibility of the money though
Mar 29 18:34:07 <MJR_III>	all coins are not equal
Mar 29 18:34:08 <jurov>	and only older coins can be used as proof of stake to mine
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Mar 29 18:34:43 <jurov>	well, actually i heard about it today first time, that's how i understood it
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Mar 29 18:35:01 <MJR_III>	i just finished reading their white paper
Mar 29 18:35:05 <Bugpowder>	where can I short ripple?
Mar 29 18:35:17 <MJR_III>	bugpowder: just find someone willing to lend you some
Mar 29 18:35:29 <jurov>	and all btc coins aren't equal too, as anyone who tried to spend new satoshidice outputs can attest
Mar 29 18:35:59 <MJR_III>	jurov: because they haven't been verified yet?
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Mar 29 18:36:24 <Bugpowder>	no cause they dusted
Mar 29 18:36:25 <jurov>	een after they were verified, satoshi client defaults to higer txfee
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Mar 29 18:36:34 <jurov>	you have to wait
Mar 29 18:36:40 <MJR_III>	oh
Mar 29 18:36:53 <jurov>	aside from that dusted consideration
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Mar 29 18:38:19 <Bugpowder>	oh, here was that blog with the mining profit plots
Mar 29 18:38:20 <Bugpowder>	http://organofcorti.blogspot.com
Mar 29 18:39:20 <jurov>	anyway my peeve with them altcoins is they all use outdated satoshi codebase
Mar 29 18:39:33 <jurov>	both litecoin and ppcoin are based on 0.6
Mar 29 18:40:04 <jurov>	while bitcoind was quite much refactored in 0.7/0.8 versions
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Mar 29 18:40:29 <jurov>	causing simple merging impossible
Mar 29 18:40:56 <jurov>	and boy, they are thrashy...
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Mar 29 18:43:15 <tiberiusiv>	altcoins have already siphoned up to 20mil of marketcap out of bitcoin
Mar 29 18:43:37 <tiberiusiv>	theres nothing stopping a better bitcoin coming out and debasing the current one
Mar 29 18:43:59 <kakobrekla>	thats the good part.
Mar 29 18:44:12 *	jurov waits for tibbycoin
Mar 29 18:44:22 <tiberiusiv>	not really kako
Mar 29 18:44:33 <kakobrekla>	ya really
Mar 29 18:44:37 <tiberiusiv>	nope.
Mar 29 18:44:42 <kakobrekla>	yope.
Mar 29 18:44:45 <tiberiusiv>	maybe for money transmission but not as money.
Mar 29 18:45:01 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Mar 29 18:45:35 <jurov>	bitcoin is *not* ready to replace any amount of worldwide economy. we do need experiments/forks at this stage
Mar 29 18:46:02 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is still grotesiquely illquid
Mar 29 18:46:12 <jurov>	but we also need someone to do it properly
Mar 29 18:46:13 <tiberiusiv>	you cant even cash in or out large ammounts without huge headaches
Mar 29 18:46:18 <tiberiusiv>	and massive slippage
Mar 29 18:46:31 <tiberiusiv>	like 1mil is 10% loss right off the bat
Mar 29 18:46:48 <tiberiusiv>	and 1mil is nothing
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Mar 29 18:47:08 <tiberiusiv>	the most disturbing part about this entire rally
Mar 29 18:47:09 <jurov>	yea, these poor silkroad dealers you mentioned yest. let's remember them with moment of silence.
Mar 29 18:47:14 <tiberiusiv>	is how little liquidity has actually improved
Mar 29 18:47:29 <tiberiusiv>	at a given time theres barely 10mil of bids
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Mar 29 18:48:12 <MJR_III>	what happened to the sr dealers?
Mar 29 18:48:12 <thestringpuller>	that will change as price increases
Mar 29 18:48:24 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller it hasnt changed.
Mar 29 18:48:34 <tiberiusiv>	were at 1billion in market cap yet liquidity has barely improved
Mar 29 18:48:37 <jurov>	tiberiusiv because it is too risky to keep big amounts on exchanges
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Mar 29 18:48:49 <tiberiusiv>	i agree but still
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Mar 29 18:49:00 <tiberiusiv>	you cant liquidate large btc balances
Mar 29 18:49:03 <tiberiusiv>	or obtain them
Mar 29 18:49:43 <tiberiusiv>	its not so much the price, its being able to move in and out of BTC that is a huge issue
Mar 29 18:50:01 <Bugpowder>	You can move about 0.5MM pretty easily
Mar 29 18:50:09 <tiberiusiv>	no you cant.
Mar 29 18:50:12 <tiberiusiv>	go try buying it
Mar 29 18:50:13 <jurov>	and that's actually good, it slows the rally while we accrue some real competency (by tial and error, but hopefully still)
Mar 29 18:50:20 <Bugpowder>	huh?
Mar 29 18:50:21 <tiberiusiv>	it doesnt slow the rally down
Mar 29 18:50:25 <Bugpowder>	people buy that all the time
Mar 29 18:50:33 <tiberiusiv>	it creates violent price swings both up and down
Mar 29 18:50:42 <Bugpowder>	0.5MM?
Mar 29 18:50:44 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder:  no they dont.
Mar 29 18:50:53 <tiberiusiv>	500k? its hard to fund an account with that
Mar 29 18:50:58 <tiberiusiv>	andslippage is still big
Mar 29 18:51:00 <pgp>	need credible exchange
Mar 29 18:51:03 <jurov>	like if there were millions going in and out, that wouldn't cause wild swings?
Mar 29 18:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41999999 BTC [-]
Mar 29 18:51:05 <tiberiusiv>	your instantly down $40k
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Mar 29 18:51:11 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: nope
Mar 29 18:51:24 <Bugpowder>	single 1MM gox orders have been going off once a day for the past 2 weeks
Mar 29 18:51:26 <tiberiusiv>	liquidity = tighter bid/asks better price discovery
Mar 29 18:51:38 <tiberiusiv>	currently the horrible bid/asks are causing price swings up and down
Mar 29 18:51:43 <Bugpowder>	there is a 1.5MM bid at 76 right now
Mar 29 18:51:49 <Bugpowder>	the swings are from goxlag
Mar 29 18:51:52 <tiberiusiv>	thats not 1 person
Mar 29 18:51:53 <jurov>	nonsense. if all 10m bitcoins were on mtgox's ask side
Mar 29 18:51:57 <Bugpowder>	yes it is
Mar 29 18:52:00 <MJR_III>	true which is around 30 seconds now
Mar 29 18:52:02 <Bugpowder>	I saw it go up
Mar 29 18:52:04 <MJR_III>	;;goxlag
Mar 29 18:52:05 <gribble>	36.499108 seconds
Mar 29 18:52:14 <tiberiusiv>	if multiple people have bids at 76
Mar 29 18:52:16 <tiberiusiv>	it adds them up
Mar 29 18:52:19 <jurov>	then 1m USD would still move the price considerably
Mar 29 18:52:26 <tiberiusiv>	it does
Mar 29 18:52:29 <tiberiusiv>	by 10%
Mar 29 18:52:40 <tiberiusiv>	you lose $100k literally off the bat
Mar 29 18:52:58 <jurov>	so? don't clamor for impossible them.
Mar 29 18:53:01 <jurov>	*then
Mar 29 18:53:03 <Bugpowder>	a 1M buy right now moves the price 5%
Mar 29 18:53:14 <tiberiusiv>	yea and then try getting out of it.
Mar 29 18:53:16 <Bugpowder>	if you hit it all at once
Mar 29 18:53:20 <tiberiusiv>	you lose both ways over 10%
Mar 29 18:53:24 <Bugpowder>	instead of dribble
Mar 29 18:53:32 <tiberiusiv>	thats MASSIVE on tiny ammount like 1mil
Mar 29 18:53:40 <Bugpowder>	I bet a 1MM bid moves any midcap stock at least as much
Mar 29 18:53:54 <tiberiusiv>	yea the thinly traded illiquid ones
Mar 29 18:53:59 <Bugpowder>	no
Mar 29 18:54:04 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Mar 29 18:54:08 <tiberiusiv>	its all about liquidity
Mar 29 18:54:15 <jurov>	tiberiusiv so how do you propose to get instantly into 1trillion mkt cap?
Mar 29 18:54:24 <jurov>	so you can have your beloved liquidity?
Mar 29 18:54:26 <tiberiusiv>	jurov you can be at 100mil market cap
Mar 29 18:54:28 <tiberiusiv>	and be super liquid
Mar 29 18:54:33 <MJR_III>	hahaha
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Mar 29 18:54:35 <tiberiusiv>	the market cap means nothing
Mar 29 18:54:45 <jurov>	it's necessary condition
Mar 29 18:54:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00067039 = 6.5028 BTC [-]
Mar 29 18:54:53 <tiberiusiv>	1billion market cap
Mar 29 18:54:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2718 @ 0.00066531 = 1.8083 BTC [-]
Mar 29 18:54:58 <jurov>	one of necessary conditions
Mar 29 18:54:59 <tiberiusiv>	and to have 1million influence the price by 10%
Mar 29 18:55:01 <tiberiusiv>	is PATHETIC.
Mar 29 18:55:07 <tiberiusiv>	jurov no it isnt.
Mar 29 18:55:09 <pgp>	bp - your right about comparing to trading in midcap stocks
Mar 29 18:55:14 <tiberiusiv>	you can have 1 trade go off at $1000
Mar 29 18:55:19 <tiberiusiv>	and you have instant 10bil market cap.
Mar 29 18:55:33 <tiberiusiv>	its like mpex market cap, its based on tiny trades
Mar 29 18:55:39 <tiberiusiv>	means nothing
Mar 29 18:56:07 <tiberiusiv>	people are not comprehending how illiquid BTC still is
Mar 29 18:56:18 <pgp>	the same can be said of companies that ipo
Mar 29 18:56:23 <tiberiusiv>	i thought by now youd need at least 5mil+
Mar 29 18:56:37 <pgp>	often they float <10% of there shares and often aren't that liquid
Mar 29 18:56:41 <tiberiusiv>	pgp: a midcap ipo is a closed market with limited participants
Mar 29 18:56:50 <tiberiusiv>	not global
Mar 29 18:57:10 <tiberiusiv>	it doesnt have a wide audience
Mar 29 18:57:24 <pgp>	mt gox makes it a closed system to a certain extent
Mar 29 18:57:35 <tiberiusiv>	theres other exchanges
Mar 29 18:57:43 <tiberiusiv>	i agree mtgox contributes to the problem
Mar 29 18:58:14 <tiberiusiv>	like coinbase if they ever succeed, are going to have an impossible time shopping for 500k blocks lol
Mar 29 18:58:30 <tiberiusiv>	someone that buys that will be stuck
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Mar 29 18:59:15 <tiberiusiv>	you realistically cannot move a 10k block now without major slippage, nevermind 100k+
Mar 29 19:00:15 <tiberiusiv>	i mean yes it has marginally improved
Mar 29 19:00:59 <jurov>	i'd argue that fiat is "overliquid" since it has inflated supply so you have too high expectations
Mar 29 19:01:18 <jurov>	bitcoin is scarce, not easy to just lend 10k block
Mar 29 19:01:19 <tiberiusiv>	no fiat is liquid becuase you can exchange it fast for goods/services
Mar 29 19:01:23 <jurov>	from central bank
Mar 29 19:01:28 <tiberiusiv>	liquid means i can get rid of it fast
Mar 29 19:01:32 <tiberiusiv>	without losses
Mar 29 19:01:34 <jurov>	and use it to trade
Mar 29 19:01:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [+]
Mar 29 19:01:42 <tiberiusiv>	i can take 1mil fiat and spend it in 10minutes
Mar 29 19:01:47 <tiberiusiv>	hell in a second
Mar 29 19:01:57 <tiberiusiv>	theres someone constantly willing to accept it
Mar 29 19:02:02 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is nowhere near that
Mar 29 19:02:02 <jurov>	but where you can take it from? someone will lend it to you
Mar 29 19:02:20 <tiberiusiv>	well from however i obtained it
Mar 29 19:02:25 <jurov>	this isn't so easy with btc.. jus lend it on moment;s notice
Mar 29 19:02:27 <tiberiusiv>	providing services, products or stealing
Mar 29 19:02:39 <tiberiusiv>	im talking about if you have CASH
Mar 29 19:02:49 <tiberiusiv>	the reason its liquid is you can get rid of it on a whim
Mar 29 19:02:57 <tiberiusiv>	you cannot get rid of bitcoins
Mar 29 19:03:02 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, all that "volume" and "liuquidity" on irl fin markets is thanks to leverage
Mar 29 19:03:06 <jurov>	agree or not?
Mar 29 19:03:09 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 29 19:03:13 <tiberiusiv>	it existed always
Mar 29 19:03:23 <tiberiusiv>	in 1800's we had gold standard and cash was liquid
Mar 29 19:03:27 <tiberiusiv>	theres always a BID for cash
Mar 29 19:03:31 <tiberiusiv>	i can sell it in a store for goods
Mar 29 19:03:42 <jurov>	and there were crashes every now and then
Mar 29 19:04:00 <jurov>	and panics
Mar 29 19:04:02 <tiberiusiv>	what cant you understand? liquidity means i can exchange X and Y fast
Mar 29 19:04:07 <jurov>	like we have now in btc
Mar 29 19:04:10 <tiberiusiv>	there was small bank runs yea so what?
Mar 29 19:04:21 <jurov>	yes, and i do ask, where is the liquidity from?
Mar 29 19:04:23 <tiberiusiv>	the problem with BTC is its utterly pathetic liquidity
Mar 29 19:04:28 <jurov>	from leverage, i say.
Mar 29 19:04:30 <tiberiusiv>	from being money.
Mar 29 19:04:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [+]
Mar 29 19:04:41 <tiberiusiv>	the point of money is that its liquid
Mar 29 19:04:44 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is not
Mar 29 19:05:00 <pgp>	leverage and credit lines are the key to liquidity in modern financial markets
Mar 29 19:05:06 <tiberiusiv>	its entire premise is the greater fool theory, that someone else will pay you more then what you paid
Mar 29 19:05:12 <jurov>	gold covered money was not either. $1m could really create panic at its time
Mar 29 19:05:28 <tiberiusiv>	sure thats like 1bil today
Mar 29 19:06:05 <tiberiusiv>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory
Mar 29 19:06:09 <tiberiusiv>	this is bitcoin at the moment
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Mar 29 19:06:40 <jurov>	this is fiat at the moment
Mar 29 19:06:51 <tiberiusiv>	no it isnt.
Mar 29 19:07:16 <MJR_III>	ugh i can't trade like this
Mar 29 19:07:25 <tiberiusiv>	nobody is using bitcoin as a unit of account
Mar 29 19:07:26 <jurov>	how so? they are printing and loaning it out in hopes some greater fool will come and eat all the debt
Mar 29 19:07:29 <tiberiusiv>	other then mpex
Mar 29 19:07:45 <tiberiusiv>	when someone talks about bitcoin
Mar 29 19:07:50 <tiberiusiv>	they say the US dollar price
Mar 29 19:07:55 <jurov>	tiberiusiv don't change the topic
Mar 29 19:08:01 <tiberiusiv>	im not
Mar 29 19:08:04 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin has NO liquidity
Mar 29 19:08:09 <jurov>	lalalalala
Mar 29 19:08:33 <tiberiusiv>	and the worst part about it, by now i expected 3-4x levels relative to market cap
Mar 29 19:08:37 <jurov>	you obvoisly aren't trying to understand what i'm saying :/
Mar 29 19:09:00 <jurov>	what i told in last 50 lines?
Mar 29 19:09:13 <tiberiusiv>	jurov you dont understand anything really  its a fruitless discussion
Mar 29 19:09:40 <tiberiusiv>	the same as you not understanding why using bitcoin as a bank account for short term fiat obligations is stupid.
Mar 29 19:09:44 <jurov>	obviously if you aren't even replying to my point
Mar 29 19:09:46 <tiberiusiv>	the conversation will go nowhere
Mar 29 19:09:52 <MJR_III>	jurov: he is not interested in your points, he will always change topics once you have proven him wrong yet again...
Mar 29 19:10:02 <tiberiusiv>	go back to trading MJR
Mar 29 19:10:06 <jurov>	^^^ this
Mar 29 19:10:10 <tiberiusiv>	flipping 0.1 coins
Mar 29 19:10:19 <MJR_III>	i ignored him long ago...i wish everyone else would
Mar 29 19:10:41 <MJR_III>	i know how tempting it can be to show someone who is obviuosly wrong how and where they are wrong...but i couldn't get sucked into that trap any more
Mar 29 19:11:01 <MJR_III>	he is banking on you getting invested in trying to show him the intelligent way of looking at things
Mar 29 19:11:10 <MJR_III>	he'll devolve into ad hominem, and any other logical fallacy
Mar 29 19:11:14 <jurov>	i know. but it's useful for me to try and explain, too, even if he isn't listening
Mar 29 19:11:19 <MJR_III>	good point
Mar 29 19:11:25 <MJR_III>	i at least enjoyed reading your points
Mar 29 19:11:37 <bgupta>	Is there a relatively conventional futures market in btc?
Mar 29 19:11:44 <tiberiusiv>	no
Mar 29 19:11:58 <tiberiusiv>	theres absolutely nothing unless you like playing with $50
Mar 29 19:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.41999999 = 0.84 BTC [-]
Mar 29 19:12:22 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: mpex options are as good as you get
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Mar 29 19:14:26 <tiberiusiv>	1 mil USD gets you 12k BTC
Mar 29 19:14:33 <tiberiusiv>	12k BTC gets you 850k USD.
Mar 29 19:15:07 <jurov>	so? you want to pump and dump and can't?
Mar 29 19:15:23 <tiberiusiv>	you cant pump and dump by just randomly buying
Mar 29 19:15:31 <tiberiusiv>	you need to trick bidders into coming in
Mar 29 19:15:34 <tiberiusiv>	like mircea does.
Mar 29 19:15:54 <jurov>	and it can get you more if ye weren't inept and bought mpoe options with these 12k in meantime
Mar 29 19:15:57 <tiberiusiv>	you need someone to dump to
Mar 29 19:16:07 <tiberiusiv>	no it cant.
Mar 29 19:16:17 <tiberiusiv>	mpoe options are not liquid instruments
Mar 29 19:16:27 <tiberiusiv>	id just be incurring more slippage
Mar 29 19:16:34 <jurov>	they are most liquid instrument there is
Mar 29 19:16:35 <tiberiusiv>	and now stuck holding derivative too
Mar 29 19:16:47 <tiberiusiv>	dude mpex options cant do size.
Mar 29 19:17:04 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 29 19:17:05 <tiberiusiv>	there has to be 2 parties to the trade duh.
Mar 29 19:17:05 <gribble>	88.81
Mar 29 19:17:28 <jurov>	dude they are just covered by tens of thousands of btc.
Mar 29 19:17:38 <tiberiusiv>	if btc is illiquid by its very nature mpex is too
Mar 29 19:17:44 <MJR_III>	cue talking shit about mircea_popescu
Mar 29 19:18:01 <tiberiusiv>	blindly buying BTC may "pump" the price
Mar 29 19:18:05 <MJR_III>	i can't see what he wrote but i'm guessing gypsy something
Mar 29 19:18:07 <tiberiusiv>	but you still need someone to dump onto
Mar 29 19:18:09 <jurov>	yea btc is illiquid hence everything is shit lalalalala
Mar 29 19:18:12 <smickles>	mp is just a greasy wanabe pimp
Mar 29 19:18:13 <tiberiusiv>	or else youd be taking huge losses
Mar 29 19:18:21 <MJR_III>	ooh thats new
Mar 29 19:18:29 <tiberiusiv>	lol thanks smickles
Mar 29 19:18:30 <MJR_III>	love that he can still surprise me
Mar 29 19:18:37 <smickles>	tiberiusiv: np :D
Mar 29 19:18:50 <MJR_III>	this is actually fun
Mar 29 19:18:51 <tiberiusiv>	jurov you have a poor understanding of markets and prices
Mar 29 19:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 72 @ 0.41 = 29.52 BTC [-]
Mar 29 19:19:03 <MJR_III>	guessing his arguments from watching half the convo
Mar 29 19:19:12 <tiberiusiv>	you maybe good at running a business or providing a good service
Mar 29 19:19:19 <tiberiusiv>	but you arent very knowledgeable outside of that
Mar 29 19:19:19 <MJR_III>	how many people has he called poor? over/under 3
Mar 29 19:19:25 <jurov>	tiberiusiv nobody here agrees with you. so you must have indeed better understanding :)
Mar 29 19:19:34 <tiberiusiv>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savant_syndrome
Mar 29 19:19:38 <tiberiusiv>	jurov this is what you suffer from
Mar 29 19:19:40 <taub>	downpressure is stronger than ever
Mar 29 19:19:52 <jurov>	no i'm mere sockpuppet
Mar 29 19:20:13 <tiberiusiv>	you are smart in your field
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Mar 29 19:20:17 <tiberiusiv>	but an idiot outside of it
Mar 29 19:21:05 <jurov>	so we finally arrived at name calling :D
Mar 29 19:21:17 <tiberiusiv>	second i never doubted mircea's intelligence, i mean you have to be intelligent to convince people into giving you $
Mar 29 19:21:41 <jurov>	seems i did convince you as well
Mar 29 19:21:42 <tiberiusiv>	so usually you have a sociopath and a army of puppets around him
Mar 29 19:22:01 <tiberiusiv>	jurov well no you didnt, your integrity based on others feedback did
Mar 29 19:22:56 <tiberiusiv>	jurov and you never tried to sell me magic beans
Mar 29 19:22:57 <jurov>	granted, i did convince them first :)
Mar 29 19:22:59 <tiberiusiv>	as mircea does
Mar 29 19:23:06 <tiberiusiv>	to his legions
Mar 29 19:23:40 <jurov>	yes? what did he try to sell you?
Mar 29 19:23:49 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is trying to sell utter trash
Mar 29 19:24:06 <tiberiusiv>	with gross overvaluations that he even knows
Mar 29 19:24:18 <jurov>	and how do you know for example iDiffs i'm selling aren't overvalued trash?
Mar 29 19:24:22 <tiberiusiv>	see with his ego complex he saw that pirate did $50mil
Mar 29 19:24:30 <tiberiusiv>	so he figures he has to best it
Mar 29 19:24:33 <tiberiusiv>	by many multiples
Mar 29 19:25:10 <tiberiusiv>	egomaniacs have obsessions with outdoing someone, hence his constant comparisons to larger players like mtgox
Mar 29 19:25:47 <jurov>	and you have obsession with undoing someone, i see :)
Mar 29 19:25:56 <tiberiusiv>	suffering from strange sexual tendencies is also a classic trait of a psycopathic individual
Mar 29 19:26:20 <jurov>	oh seems talking to self mode activated
Mar 29 19:26:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21636 @ 0.00067234 = 14.5467 BTC [+]
Mar 29 19:26:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067326 = 3.3663 BTC [+]
Mar 29 19:26:42 <jurov>	sorry to disrupt your thought processes
Mar 29 19:26:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15664 @ 0.00067327 = 10.5461 BTC [+]
Mar 29 19:26:47 <smickles>	what've you got against psycopaths?
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Mar 29 19:27:00 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 29 19:27:06 <MJR_III>	have we arrived at this point already?
Mar 29 19:27:16 <smickles>	psycopaths are usually productive members of society
Mar 29 19:27:39 <jurov>	yea, especially sociopaths are among the most productive
Mar 29 19:27:53 <MJR_III>	they say a lot of ceo's are sociopaths
Mar 29 19:28:16 <smickles>	i dunno about that, seems kinda off-handed remarkish
Mar 29 19:28:28 <tiberiusiv>	they are
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Mar 29 19:28:38 <tiberiusiv>	sociopaths tend to gravitate to positions of power/control
Mar 29 19:28:44 <tiberiusiv>	hence why all these corps are blowing up
Mar 29 19:28:59 <tiberiusiv>	large corps, governments are magnets to these kinds
Mar 29 19:29:10 <MJR_III>	yeah, its more of an urban legend i suppose
Mar 29 19:29:53 *	smickles founds the psycopathic rights movement
Mar 29 19:30:05 <MJR_III>	i can't trade at all right now, bitfinex is fucked
Mar 29 19:30:27 <smickles>	MJR_III: what do you want to trade?
Mar 29 19:30:37 <MJR_III>	not sure...maybe just short at 92
Mar 29 19:30:44 <MJR_III>	try to get out around 88
Mar 29 19:31:18 <MJR_III>	its mostly for fun on my bitfinex account, i usually just lend out the money, but interest rates have dropped, so i am actively trading the account to try and grow it a bit
Mar 29 19:31:20 <smickles>	wow, you picked a winner of a site do trade on
Mar 29 19:31:36 <MJR_III>	lol, only margin trading platform really
Mar 29 19:31:43 <MJR_III>	as far as i know
Mar 29 19:32:08 <smickles>	icbit works better than this place
Mar 29 19:32:19 <MJR_III>	i was wondering though, and maybe mircea_popescu has some experience, but what if you used some sort of system to break up the channel of info
Mar 29 19:32:26 <MJR_III>	like have orders on a certain port
Mar 29 19:32:30 <MJR_III>	data on a different one
Mar 29 19:32:35 <MJR_III>	and none of them are 80
Mar 29 19:33:01 <MJR_III>	or if you had a vpn session or something
Mar 29 19:33:01 <smickles>	what would be the point?
Mar 29 19:33:07 <MJR_III>	avoid ddos
Mar 29 19:33:25 <MJR_III>	i wonder if you could create a fix engine in a web browser
Mar 29 19:33:25 <smickles>	i bet they could direct ddos at any port
Mar 29 19:33:37 <MJR_III>	i'm sure they could smickles
Mar 29 19:33:45 <MJR_III>	hence you have to have a valid logon
Mar 29 19:33:57 <MJR_III>	and then your trading session goes across that
Mar 29 19:34:01 <smickles>	you'd still have to negotiate the logon
Mar 29 19:34:06 <MJR_III>	true
Mar 29 19:34:20 <MJR_III>	hmmm
Mar 29 19:34:30 <MJR_III>	i just had another idea...but not sure if it would work
Mar 29 19:34:43 <MJR_III>	you know how yubikey or any of those authenticators work?
Mar 29 19:34:52 <MJR_III>	what if you used that for port based connection
Mar 29 19:35:19 <MJR_III>	only registered customers could connect cuz they know what port to connect on
Mar 29 19:35:42 <smickles>	obfuscation is not protection
Mar 29 19:35:52 <smickles>	eventually, that port would be known
Mar 29 19:35:58 <smickles>	if not right away
Mar 29 19:35:59 <jurov>	i'd use ssl certificate
Mar 29 19:36:24 <MJR_III>	no, the port constantly changes
Mar 29 19:36:28 <MJR_III>	every 20 seconds
Mar 29 19:36:33 <jurov>	with some ddos protection that supports ssl
Mar 29 19:36:47 <MJR_III>	but since your auth is changing the same way as their client
Mar 29 19:36:52 <MJR_III>	you can always connect
Mar 29 19:37:36 <jurov>	the ddos coinbr saw would have no problem penetrating all 65535 ports
Mar 29 19:37:49 <Troic>	hmm what good is a different port if your upstream connection is saturated ?
Mar 29 19:37:57 <MJR_III>	good points
Mar 29 19:38:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.007601 BTC [-]
Mar 29 19:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III understand, ddos threat is not to cpu
Mar 29 19:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's to the routers.
Mar 29 19:38:45 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 29 19:38:51 <MJR_III>	thats what you were telling me
Mar 29 19:40:01 <jurov>	using various IP addresses instead of port may work
Mar 29 19:40:22 <jurov>	but you still need to expose some stable anchor where users authenticate
Mar 29 19:40:42 <MJR_III>	i still think that you could use the yubikey method
Mar 29 19:40:43 <jurov>	and get the ip
Mar 29 19:41:27 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> but we also need someone to do it properly << i'm with him
Mar 29 19:41:39 <jurov>	hmmm... maybe create DNS entry <nextyubikeycode>.domain.com seems doable?
Mar 29 19:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	ppcoin sounds more like "what does this button do" than anything.
Mar 29 19:41:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.787948 = 1.5759 BTC [+]
Mar 29 19:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	<pgp> often they float <10% of there shares and often aren't that liquid <<< /me grins
Mar 29 19:43:15 <MJR_III>	jurov yeah that is what i was thinking
Mar 29 19:43:18 <Troic>	nothing to stop the dosser getting the ip, well 30btc, unless each user has a differnt ip/isp
Mar 29 19:43:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0039999 = 0.012 BTC [+]
Mar 29 19:43:20 <MJR_III>	a token based system
Mar 29 19:43:42 <MJR_III>	how would he get the token?
Mar 29 19:43:47 <jurov>	yes you need a pool of ips
Mar 29 19:43:51 <MJR_III>	only registered users would get it
Mar 29 19:44:02 <MJR_III>	and yes, a pool of ips, but that shouldn't be that hard
Mar 29 19:44:23 <jurov>	yubikey creates a pseudorandom string and you know what the strign is going to be, no?
Mar 29 19:44:35 <MJR_III>	yes
Mar 29 19:44:35 <jurov>	as you issued the yubikey
Mar 29 19:44:45 <Troic>	pool of IPs on different AS, that is expensive, at least you can shut the account down :)
Mar 29 19:44:50 <MJR_III>	and it changes every 20 seconds according to a pattern that only you can tell]
Mar 29 19:45:23 <jurov>	bah, it can be just a bunch of spot instances or cheap vpses
Mar 29 19:45:27 <MJR_III>	i guess it would be similar to the one time password that gribble does
Mar 29 19:45:46 <MJR_III>	exactly, its just a simple authenticator which serves as a gatekeeper before you connect
Mar 29 19:46:00 <Troic>	'bunch of spot instances or cheap vpses' all on same router for dos to target
Mar 29 19:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Mar 29 19:46:33 <MJR_III>	can't you split them up?
Mar 29 19:46:41 <Troic>	expensive
Mar 29 19:46:42 <jurov>	Troic, on amazon you can have the instances on like 10 diff places
Mar 29 19:46:45 <MJR_III>	AWS instances in different zones?
Mar 29 19:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III this is what was going on back during ddos
Mar 29 19:46:52 <jurov>	for almost the same price, yes
Mar 29 19:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	some ninny actually took the time to blow them up one at a time
Mar 29 19:47:03 <Troic>	10 customers
Mar 29 19:48:14 <jurov>	mircea_popescu cuz you didn't use amazon loadbalancer... granted, with 10TB traffic it would get a bit expensive :)
Mar 29 19:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	jurov they were cheap vps's etc
Mar 29 19:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	i thought htat's what we were disucssing
Mar 29 19:48:44 <MJR_III>	what is the cost of a ddos of that magnitude?
Mar 29 19:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	siiignificant.
Mar 29 19:49:30 <jurov>	yes we were talink about that, but after experimenting i realized hiding these cheap vpses behind loadbalancer is the way to go
Mar 29 19:49:37 <jurov>	*talking
Mar 29 19:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	i hear 1gbit for 30 seconds is like 5-10 bux for random noob.
Mar 29 19:49:47 <MJR_III>	10 terabytes? that has got to cost quite a bit
Mar 29 19:50:18 <jurov>	10TB is around 300bux iirc
Mar 29 19:50:23 <jurov>	for a lb
Mar 29 19:50:29 <MJR_III>	per how long?
Mar 29 19:50:36 <jurov>	total
Mar 29 19:50:40 <jurov>	accoumulated
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Mar 29 19:50:48 <MJR_III>	that is pretty cheap
Mar 29 19:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	10 tb = 1000 seconds of 10 gbit
Mar 29 19:51:30 <jurov>	thre's maybe hope they are onyl counting legit traffic that ges through
Mar 29 19:51:37 <jurov>	not syn flood
Mar 29 19:52:00 <jurov>	i should research it
Mar 29 19:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	possibly ya
Mar 29 19:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	but so was i.
Mar 29 19:53:24 <mircea_popescu>	synflood is like, 14 bytes per packet ?
Mar 29 19:53:45 <jurov>	$0.008 per GB of data processed by an Elastic Load Balancer, no further details
Mar 29 19:54:09 <jurov>	plus $0.025 per Elastic Load Balancer-hour (or partial hour)
Mar 29 19:54:35 <MJR_III>	not too bad
Mar 29 19:54:45 <MJR_III>	you could bring it up when the attack starts
Mar 29 19:55:12 <MJR_III>	and i think you would be blocking their expensive attack with a cheap shield
Mar 29 20:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [+]
Mar 29 20:00:20 <taub>	what do you guys think? up/down?
Mar 29 20:00:40 <taub>	I'm still bearish short term, this retracement isn't over
Mar 29 20:02:03 <MJR_III>	think we are somewhat stablising
Mar 29 20:02:14 <MJR_III>	i think we bounce between 92 and 88
Mar 29 20:02:26 <MJR_III>	maybe if gox lag gets bad quick spikes in either direction
Mar 29 20:03:04 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: so what is cloudflare actually doing for bitfinex
Mar 29 20:03:09 <MJR_III>	i can't use their website
Mar 29 20:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno who was asking me about ddos protection services and i said they all have their issues
Mar 29 20:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	this'd be an example.
Mar 29 20:03:45 <taub>	bitfinex would work better if they would deploy on a more solid exchange
Mar 29 20:03:48 <taub>	like bitfloor
Mar 29 20:03:52 <MJR_III>	i agree
Mar 29 20:04:07 <MJR_III>	bitfloor has the best response time i think
Mar 29 20:04:34 <taub>	yea, its the least worst exchange i've seen
Mar 29 20:04:39 <MJR_III>	lol
Mar 29 20:04:44 <MJR_III>	wish there was a better order interface
Mar 29 20:04:47 <MJR_III>	but what can you do
Mar 29 20:04:51 <taub>	okay mpex is the pinnacle, but for btcusd
Mar 29 20:04:54 <MJR_III>	also margin and shorting would be nice
Mar 29 20:04:58 <MJR_III>	well of course
Mar 29 20:04:59 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: options did exercise but old names still stayed
Mar 29 20:05:07 <jurov>	or it's scheduled for later?
Mar 29 20:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 29 20:05:23 <MJR_III>	also...roman told me that he could handle 2k orders per second
Mar 29 20:06:38 <taub>	:O
Mar 29 20:07:16 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: so if its the router...if it just drops all but a certain subset of traffic, can it still be overloaded?
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Mar 29 20:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_III yes.
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Mar 29 20:11:30 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu: so there is unblockable ddos?
Mar 29 20:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Mar 29 20:12:06 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 29 20:12:07 <gribble>	89.55
Mar 29 20:12:28 <jurov>	if they flooded with fully legit gpg-encypted requests for example
Mar 29 20:12:39 <MJR_III>	interesting
Mar 29 20:12:43 <KRS1>	i dont think there is such a thing MJR
Mar 29 20:12:56 <MJR_III>	KRS1: a purely hardware overload
Mar 29 20:12:58 <KRS1>	you can filter it through a proxy
Mar 29 20:13:13 <KRS1>	thats what my friend does for a living..he mitigates attacks
Mar 29 20:13:16 <MJR_III>	KRS1: if the proxy is overloaded
Mar 29 20:13:26 <bgupta>	http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/03/29/digital-currency-bitcoin-surpasses-20-national-currencies-in-value/
Mar 29 20:13:29 <KRS1>	i know a bit about it being in IT but i'm not an expert in that area
Mar 29 20:13:57 <MJR_III>	well, i think every piece of hardware will have a limit
Mar 29 20:14:02 <MJR_III>	and this is just theorizing
Mar 29 20:14:24 <MJR_III>	but if any piece is overloaded (it could restart, or have its buffers flooded) you break the site
Mar 29 20:14:35 <KRS1>	the proxy typically is equipped for the traffic and then its filtered and sent to the customer
Mar 29 20:14:44 <MJR_III>	no i understand
Mar 29 20:14:53 <MJR_III>	mircea was talking about terabytes of data
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Mar 29 20:17:22 <KRS1>	the idea is that if you cant accept the traffic something needs to accept it for you that cant be overwhelmed
Mar 29 20:17:39 <KRS1>	even for terabytes of data
Mar 29 20:18:37 <MJR_III>	but my point is that as far as i know there is no device with unlimited capacity
Mar 29 20:18:42 <KRS1>	thats right
Mar 29 20:18:44 <ThickAsThieves>	how many hours til newstyle options might be released?
Mar 29 20:18:46 <KRS1>	you scale it
Mar 29 20:18:52 <KRS1>	with additional hardware
Mar 29 20:19:03 <MJR_III>	so if you had a 100gb router (they exist) it could still be brought down
Mar 29 20:19:51 <KRS1>	sure why not...any distributed effort can be bigger than its target.
Mar 29 20:19:55 <MJR_III>	true
Mar 29 20:20:14 <MJR_III>	of course you probbably donb't need to stop theoretical attacks just make it impractical
Mar 29 20:20:23 <KRS1>	hopefully you have something that can accept the traffic that can handle it
Mar 29 20:20:29 <MJR_III>	yes true
Mar 29 20:20:39 <MJR_III>	but for example, i am setting up an stunnel to bitfloor
Mar 29 20:20:55 <MJR_III>	so worst case if the site goes down, that should not bring down my stunnel
Mar 29 20:21:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00385 = 0.0539 BTC [-]
Mar 29 20:21:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00381 = 0.0762 BTC [-]
Mar 29 20:21:41 <MJR_III>	so for an institutional client, some sort of vpn on dedicated hardware is probably best
Mar 29 20:21:55 <KRS1>	encryption adds a lot of overhead
Mar 29 20:22:01 <KRS1>	i think i see what you are saying
Mar 29 20:22:05 <KRS1>	what would be the target though
Mar 29 20:22:30 <KRS1>	right
Mar 29 20:22:45 <KRS1>	hopefully multiples that can failover if need be
Mar 29 20:23:08 <MJR_III>	good point
Mar 29 20:23:16 <KRS1>	the cisco ASA can vpn too
Mar 29 20:23:23 <MJR_III>	yep
Mar 29 20:23:27 <MJR_III>	that is what we have lol
Mar 29 20:23:35 <MJR_III>	and 6509's 2 of them VSS'd
Mar 29 20:23:41 <KRS1>	nice
Mar 29 20:24:06 <KRS1>	dont forget about bandwidth when setting up stunnel, encryption adds overhead
Mar 29 20:24:13 <KRS1>	dns..etc.
Mar 29 20:24:50 <MJR_III>	its ture
Mar 29 20:24:53 <MJR_III>	true
Mar 29 20:25:49 <MJR_III>	hmmm, what is the best router out there?
Mar 29 20:25:57 <MJR_III>	i'm just curious
Mar 29 20:26:34 <MJR_III>	the asa is actually a firewall right
Mar 29 20:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.895 = 3.79 BTC [+]
Mar 29 20:28:08 <MJR_III>	juniper makes some nice stuff
Mar 29 20:29:03 <MJR_III>	fuck when i finally got back on bitfinex i am greeted by the position i didn't know i had
Mar 29 20:29:38 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Mar 29 20:30:04 <MJR_III>	it actually is not that bad of a position though...short at 90.50
Mar 29 20:32:05 <jurov>	mircea used vwap 90.34 ??? quite a boost we got there :P
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Mar 29 20:34:35 <MJR_III>	i exercised at 71, what a sucker i am
Mar 29 20:37:46 <MJR_III>	that was awesome, my local pizza place delivered me cigarettes
Mar 29 20:38:45 <KRS1>	yea asa is awesome
Mar 29 20:39:10 <MJR_III>	i wonder...how will ipv6 change the DDOS landscape
Mar 29 20:39:15 <KRS1>	router-depends on what you use it for
Mar 29 20:39:23 <MJR_III>	cisco 7000 series
Mar 29 20:39:26 <MJR_III>	:)
Mar 29 20:39:28 <KRS1>	ipv6 is just a transport mechanism not sure it would matter
Mar 29 20:39:39 <MJR_III>	you could have a MUCH greater address pool
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Mar 29 20:39:45 <KRS1>	sorry i mean addressing method
Mar 29 20:39:48 <MJR_III>	and also you wouldn't have to worry about NATing
Mar 29 20:40:02 <MJR_III>	which can be a bottleneck
Mar 29 20:40:14 <KRS1>	yeah ipv6 would increase the # of ddos participants against the target if you could ever get there
Mar 29 20:40:21 <MJR_III>	good point
Mar 29 20:40:22 <KRS1>	router- depending on the application
Mar 29 20:41:04 <KRS1>	voip traffic, etc
Mar 29 20:41:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: financials up yet?
Mar 29 20:41:56 <MJR_III>	tcp\ip = cisco i think
Mar 29 20:42:01 <MJR_III>	vs udp etc
Mar 29 20:42:04 <MJR_III>	i mean
Mar 29 20:42:16 <jurov>	lol certain lucky coinbr user made 4 btc out of one using calls (not tibby obviously)
Mar 29 20:42:39 <MJR_III>	wow what did he have?
Mar 29 20:42:44 <MJR_III>	41 calls is what i got
Mar 29 20:43:01 <jurov>	thestringpuller don't be impatient :)
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Mar 29 20:43:08 <KRS1>	bbl
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Mar 29 20:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/
Mar 29 20:46:07 <mircea_popescu>	ok tghere it is.
Mar 29 20:46:45 <copumpkin>	hmm, that's not ideal
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Mar 29 20:48:49 <jurov>	so all the bonds that went below 100BTC will be paid out automatically or we need to ask?
Mar 29 20:49:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 700 @ 0.000617 = 0.4319 BTC [-]
Mar 29 20:49:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000616 = 0.0739 BTC [-]
Mar 29 20:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	jurov they get paid.
Mar 29 20:50:07 <mircea_popescu>	i forgot the red lines
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Mar 29 20:55:23 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: and why so high vwap got used? did it really fell from 90.34 to 89.55 in 10 minutes?
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Mar 29 21:00:18 <mircea_popescu>	actually i see it 91.05 atm ?
Mar 29 21:01:22 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 29 21:01:23 <gribble>	89.53
Mar 29 21:01:26 <jurov>	where?
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Mar 29 21:02:22 <jurov>	http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ lists 89.53 too
Mar 29 21:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	hm
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Mar 29 21:03:44 <taub>	i dont like this price action one bit
Mar 29 21:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	there's a lot of volume right at the edge of the rolling window
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Mar 29 21:07:13 <MJR_III>	wow mircea_popescu, that did make me nauseous
Mar 29 21:07:22 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: where is dat post
Mar 29 21:07:28 <thestringpuller>	lolol
Mar 29 21:07:33 <mircea_popescu>	myeah
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Mar 29 21:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
Mar 29 21:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4199 BTC [+]
Mar 29 21:21:22 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1702603#msg1702603
Mar 29 21:21:33 <jurov>	converted even bad news into sales pitch...
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Mar 29 21:23:06 <jborkl>	we all knew the bot was going to beat like rodney king
Mar 29 21:23:28 <MJR_III>	but why did bugpowder think that would affect dividends
Mar 29 21:23:30 <jborkl>	just a one month deal
Mar 29 21:23:48 <jborkl>	sorry mp.rough month
Mar 29 21:25:53 <jurov>	mpex.co now looks so easily comprehensive, all options gone
Mar 29 21:31:35 <MJR_III>	nice
Mar 29 21:32:29 <MJR_III>	bitfinex sucks, they don't actually send orders out, but whatever engine they have doesn't send them out quickly enough, which partially gox's fault
Mar 29 21:32:40 <MJR_III>	it traded down to 87 without me getting filled
Mar 29 21:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4 = 4 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 21:34:35 <jurov>	20 to 200 with step 3 planned? we'll have 244 new options then...
Mar 29 21:35:46 <MJR_III>	wouldn't it be 90 puts and 90 calls for each month?
Mar 29 21:36:24 <jurov>	no, 61 puts and 61 calls
Mar 29 21:36:37 <jurov>	if i'm to believe this oocalc thing
Mar 29 21:36:53 <MJR_III>	180/3
Mar 29 21:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.4 = 20 BTC [-]
Mar 29 21:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.4 = 12 BTC [-]
Mar 29 21:37:09 <MJR_III>	i thought
Mar 29 21:37:25 <jurov>	180/3=60 lol
Mar 29 21:37:35 <MJR_III>	lol, thats why i should use gribble
Mar 29 21:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.4 = 16 BTC [-]
Mar 29 21:39:26 <jurov>	C750 to be upgraded to C77, yum
Mar 29 21:39:37 <MJR_III>	looking forward to sdice financials this month
Mar 29 21:41:37 <MJR_III>	jurov: isn't that downgraded?
Mar 29 21:41:44 <smickles>	lol
Mar 29 21:42:14 <MJR_III>	unless you were short i suppose
Mar 29 21:42:27 <jurov>	you're right :)
Mar 29 21:42:32 <MJR_III>	but if i was long that call i would have rather gone to 74
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Mar 29 21:49:23 <smickles>	oh, lol, that went well
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Mar 29 21:49:39 *	Diablo-D3 hands smickles the raid
Mar 29 21:49:58 <smickles>	BUY|O.USD.C920T|7|11344696 <<< does that look wrong to anyone :D
Mar 29 21:50:16 <Diablo-D3>	no because I have no clue wtf it says
Mar 29 21:50:16 <jurov>	that looks VERY bullish
Mar 29 21:51:01 <jurov>	Diablo-D3: smickles wants option to buy 7 BTC at $920 each :)
Mar 29 21:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 21:51:31 <jurov>	at measly 1.134 per option
Mar 29 21:51:37 <smickles>	;;calc 920/(1-.1134)
Mar 29 21:51:37 <gribble>	1037.67200541
Mar 29 21:51:47 <smickles>	nice b/e point
Mar 29 21:52:02 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: I like the cut of his jib
Mar 29 21:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 29 21:53:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Mar 29 21:53:16 <topace_>	!ticker h sdice
Mar 29 21:53:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.35000000 / 0.41321889 / 0.46500000 (457 shares, 188.84103088 BTC), 7D: 0.35000000 / 0.45346676 / 0.53000000 (1701 shares, 771.34695284 BTC), 30D: 0.35000000 / 0.5143263 / 0.68950000 (6033 shares, 3102.93054732 BTC)
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Mar 29 21:54:42 <thestringpuller>	lololq
Mar 29 21:55:35 <TradeFortress>	bfl asics doesn't hash lol
Mar 29 21:56:15 <Diablo-D3>	but I bought a bowl and everything :<
Mar 29 21:57:23 <MJR_III>	TradeFortress: really?
Mar 29 21:58:03 <TradeFortress>	MJR_III: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4bgho5JSI
Mar 29 21:59:45 <MJR_III>	would it be fun to have an open cry pit for bitcoins?
Mar 29 21:59:49 <MJR_III>	i think it would be
Mar 29 22:01:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00067327 = 2.4238 BTC [+]
Mar 29 22:01:52 <MJR_III>	i mostly want to do it for the cool jackets...
Mar 29 22:04:38 <smickles>	ok, what's wrong with BUY|O.USD.C89T|7|12279228 ?
Mar 29 22:05:09 <arij>	what the
Mar 29 22:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	smickles 089
Mar 29 22:05:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: why does it show on mpex.co as C89T?
Mar 29 22:06:05 <mircea_popescu>	so : the mpsic change is complete. if you had N's that were realocated they should show up.
Mar 29 22:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	bot is quoting.
Mar 29 22:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	the entire thing is trading under supervision and stuff may be rolled back if there's issues.
Mar 29 22:06:22 <smickles>	oh, it just changed
Mar 29 22:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	go ahead and test.
Mar 29 22:06:44 <jurov>	and multiply
Mar 29 22:07:06 <taub>	thats a lot of options :D
Mar 29 22:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Mar 29 22:10:48 <MJR_III>	what do you think mircea_popescu, trading jackets and open cry pit?
Mar 29 22:10:55 <MJR_III>	plus the hand signals look cool
Mar 29 22:10:56 <mircea_popescu>	can't hurt.
Mar 29 22:11:16 <MJR_III>	its so anachronistic
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Mar 29 22:12:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.78791 = 3.9396 BTC [-]
Mar 29 22:12:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.787948 = 2.3638 BTC [+]
Mar 29 22:12:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78795 BTC [+]
Mar 29 22:12:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.788 BTC [+]
Mar 29 22:12:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.78895 = 7.8895 BTC [+]
Mar 29 22:13:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: that was the saddest financial report ever
Mar 29 22:13:45 <taub>	oh sick bids @ mtgox
Mar 29 22:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	myeah
Mar 29 22:14:52 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 94
Mar 29 22:14:52 <gribble>	There are currently 8425.506 bitcoins offered at or under 94.0 USD, worth 779353.416378 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.7984 seconds
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Mar 29 22:21:20 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 29 22:21:20 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 minutes and 57 seconds ago: <smickles> oh, it just changed
Mar 29 22:22:48 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 85
Mar 29 22:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	<MJR_III> it traded down to 87 without me getting filled << usually the sign of bucket shoppery.
Mar 29 22:22:51 <gribble>	There are currently 16363.067 bitcoins demanded at or over 85.0 USD, worth 1467808.69682 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0052 seconds
Mar 29 22:23:09 <Chaang-Noi>	damn that is a wall...
Mar 29 22:23:16 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 75
Mar 29 22:23:17 <gribble>	There are currently 46099.881 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 3796776.10301 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.1647 seconds
Mar 29 22:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> C750 to be upgraded to C77, yum << you mean 74 ?
Mar 29 22:23:38 <Chaang-Noi>	10k coins at 92
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Mar 29 22:23:51 <jurov>	yes i stand corrected
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Mar 29 22:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	i'll be damned... everything seems in order ?
Mar 29 22:25:22 <MJR_III>	here comes another spike
Mar 29 22:25:47 <MJR_III>	that is a huge ass wall at 92
Mar 29 22:25:59 <Chaang-Noi>	yes sir
Mar 29 22:26:03 <Chaang-Noi>	10k
Mar 29 22:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	bot is quoting correctly and everything. cool beans.
Mar 29 22:26:46 <MJR_III>	this movie is pretty fun to watch
Mar 29 22:26:49 <MJR_III>	The Pit
Mar 29 22:26:52 <Chaang-Noi>	10k and growin, like 13k now... bull trap maybe? get people to place bids at 92, then crash market? :)
Mar 29 22:27:05 <MJR_III>	i think so
Mar 29 22:27:08 <MJR_III>	i'm short at 92
Mar 29 22:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	i might have lost 15k rthis month, but on the upside who the duck else has monthly report and whole mpsic changeover in 2 hours ?
Mar 29 22:27:25 <mircea_popescu>	fucking worth a million and a half i tell you
Mar 29 22:27:31 <MJR_III>	mircea_popescu yes, nice transition
Mar 29 22:30:25 <MJR_III>	this is the most interesting thing about trading, is that for every trade there is someone else on the other side
Mar 29 22:30:32 <MJR_III>	and i think economics forgets that at times
Mar 29 22:31:02 <MJR_III>	and people who trade with each other a lot, its like your win can be their loss
Mar 29 22:31:26 <Chaang-Noi>	lift off and wall at 17k lol
Mar 29 22:31:52 <MJR_III>	yeah looks like we are headed to 94 for sure
Mar 29 22:31:54 <taub>	shh Chaang-Noi
Mar 29 22:32:08 <Chaang-Noi>	lol, like im going to scare the bulls :)
Mar 29 22:33:22 <Chaang-Noi>	we might get 100 before april after all
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Mar 29 22:33:31 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 100
Mar 29 22:33:31 <gribble>	There are currently 23844.076 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2309880.5722 USD in total. | Data vintage: 63.0708 seconds
Mar 29 22:33:39 <Chaang-Noi>	hmmm
Mar 29 22:36:47 <Chaang-Noi>	asic miner, too many rich holders eh?    well lets wait for the 260 ghs :)
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Mar 29 22:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2282 @ 0.00066531 = 1.5182 BTC [-]
Mar 29 22:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6068 @ 0.00066529 = 4.037 BTC [-]
Mar 29 22:40:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 230 @ 0.22099114 = 50.828 BTC
Mar 29 22:41:18 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 29 22:41:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 66.95953589 / 85.06143152 / 85.06556611 (111084 shares, 22,108.25 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 29 22:41:26 <MJR_III>	hi pigeons
Mar 29 22:42:13 <MJR_III>	hmmm
Mar 29 22:42:15 <jurov>	MJR_III: coinbr should be done too
Mar 29 22:42:17 <MJR_III>	104 calls look nice
Mar 29 22:42:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P050T] 8 @ 0.0157744 = 0.1262 BTC
Mar 29 22:44:08 <MJR_III>	jurov: have we gotten divs yet?
Mar 29 22:44:55 <jurov>	s.mpoe hasn't paid yet
Mar 29 22:45:04 <MJR_III>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 29 22:45:05 <gribble>	89.91
Mar 29 22:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1558393#msg1558393
Mar 29 22:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	o wow look at all the detective work
Mar 29 22:47:55 <jurov>	oh yes, i must tell to deprived they weren't in order
Mar 29 22:48:12 <MJR_III>	jurov, nice avatar
Mar 29 22:48:51 <MJR_III>	i take it you are a recipient of the double cherry truck award?
Mar 29 22:49:23 <jurov>	yea, i have drawn it and awarded mpex. got 5btc in return :)
Mar 29 22:49:37 <MJR_III>	very nice
Mar 29 22:50:17 <jurov>	the contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122881.0
Mar 29 22:50:31 <jurov>	in memory of Patrick Harnett
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Mar 29 22:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol yea
Mar 29 22:51:46 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : if you have any artist friends you can always troll them
Mar 29 22:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	by pointing out that they don't ger 500 bux for a vignette
Mar 29 22:52:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01449 BTC [+]
Mar 29 22:52:42 <MJR_III>	lets see that wall disappear
Mar 29 22:52:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0145 BTC [+]
Mar 29 22:53:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.016 BTC [+]
Mar 29 22:53:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.017 BTC [+]
Mar 29 22:53:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.019 BTC [+]
Mar 29 22:54:05 <jurov>	yea. that was actually second time i won some such contest
Mar 29 22:54:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.01966 = 0.2163 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 22:55:05 <MJR_III>	so, did you transfer rights to the double cherry truck award to mpex, or do you retain the rights to award said trophy
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Mar 29 22:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	i retain all rights!
Mar 29 22:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	and priviledges
Mar 29 22:56:32 <jurov>	MJR_III: i guess once btc will rise enough, i can find lawyer to pick the case pro bono
Mar 29 22:56:34 <MJR_III>	ah
Mar 29 22:56:40 <jurov>	:D
Mar 29 22:56:54 <jurov>	ooh and also received payout, that was quick: http://bitbet.us/bet/3/mpbor-over-10-in-q1/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc
Mar 29 22:57:12 <MJR_III>	i think that award will be worth a lot in the future...i would like to be a recipient of the double cherry truck award, but i think that the moody's triple a rating will be slightly smoky dragon
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Mar 29 22:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 29 22:58:40 <mircea_popescu>	i'm gonna have to come up with criteria to award these now
Mar 29 22:58:50 <MJR_III>	yep
Mar 29 22:59:21 <jurov>	and i'll be awarding ravaging mermaid
Mar 29 22:59:39 <MJR_III>	NICE
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Mar 29 22:59:45 <MJR_III>	i do like the mermaid
Mar 29 23:00:00 <MJR_III>	fuck, what to watch next
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Mar 29 23:00:13 <jurov>	kakobrekla: you should make banners with rotating bets and put them on reddit, some bet fall quickly into obscurity
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Mar 29 23:00:53 <jurov>	especially some i'd like to bet moar
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Mar 29 23:04:50 <Chaang-Noi>	large drama on bitcoin talk = large bets
Mar 29 23:05:05 <Chaang-Noi>	a company to profit off of bitcoin drama, best idea evar
Mar 29 23:05:40 <jurov>	Chaang-Noi: have you seen the one "bitcointalk treasurer to be scammer tagged"?
Mar 29 23:05:56 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Mar 29 23:06:03 <Chaang-Noi>	i expect Og to be the scammer of the group
Mar 29 23:06:10 <Chaang-Noi>	i forget the otehrs
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Mar 29 23:06:28 <Chaang-Noi>	also dont forget theymos is the guy who hands out tags:)
Mar 29 23:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	wait. og as in, the ognasty club guy ?
Mar 29 23:11:34 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i dont trust him
Mar 29 23:12:15 <pigeons>	m-i-c
Mar 29 23:12:22 <pigeons>	k-e-y
Mar 29 23:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	o this can't possibly end well.
Mar 29 23:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	where's that bet again ?
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Mar 29 23:15:13 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, do mpex PR lackeys get an @mpex.co email addy?
Mar 29 23:15:52 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Mar 29 23:15:55 <ThickAsThieves>	could use email addy's as referral system
Mar 29 23:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 29 23:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	i'd hope they have their own email ><
Mar 29 23:16:47 <mircea_popescu>	o also, someone be kind enough to put march report on reddit ?
Mar 29 23:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	curious what the derpcrowd does
Mar 29 23:17:06 <Chaang-Noi>	theymos still has you banned?
Mar 29 23:18:31 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 29 23:18:42 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea tbh
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Mar 29 23:22:02 <MJR_III>	who put up that wall and to what end?
Mar 29 23:27:52 <Chaang-Noi>	want has btc or want has btc price move up?
Mar 29 23:28:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 29 23:28:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.52001, Best ask: 92.74995, Bid-ask spread: 0.22994, Last trade: 92.74995, 24 hour volume: 73187.25009339, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 94.00000, 24 hour vwap: 90.09023
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Mar 29 23:28:40 <Chaang-Noi>	two 1000 btc sell orders fell into it
Mar 29 23:28:42 <Chaang-Noi>	its a real wall
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Mar 29 23:31:33 <MJR_III>	hmmm
Mar 29 23:31:36 <MJR_III>	interesting
Mar 29 23:31:43 <MJR_III>	well, we are digging in
Mar 29 23:32:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 47 @ 0.000607 = 0.0285 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 23:37:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.797793 = 2.3934 BTC [+]
Mar 29 23:39:47 <MJR_III>	;;calc 91.77*1.2
Mar 29 23:39:47 <gribble>	110.124
Mar 29 23:40:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Mar 29 23:40:54 <gribble>	There are currently 34671020 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10482734.1184 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0176 seconds
Mar 29 23:41:17 <ThickAsThieves>	waitll bug sees that
Mar 29 23:43:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.797794 = 7.1801 BTC [+]
Mar 29 23:43:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99.91
Mar 29 23:43:05 <gribble>	There are currently 18564.837 bitcoins offered at or under 99.91 USD, worth 1797672.6472 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0022 seconds
Mar 29 23:43:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 85
Mar 29 23:43:30 <gribble>	There are currently 20005.793 bitcoins demanded at or over 85.0 USD, worth 1792948.69182 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.0206 seconds
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Mar 29 23:50:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.797794 BTC [+]
Mar 29 23:50:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.797794 = 4.7868 BTC [+]
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Mar 29 23:52:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00067028 = 5.932 BTC [+]
Mar 29 23:52:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1023 @ 0.00066529 = 0.6806 BTC [-]
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Mar 29 23:54:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003854 BTC [+]
Mar 29 23:55:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.004112 BTC [+]
Mar 29 23:59:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.797794 BTC [+]
Mar 30 00:01:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1565 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 00:05:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1565 = 0.313 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 00:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.48 = 7.68 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 00:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 45 @ 0.49 = 22.05 BTC [+]
Mar 30 00:25:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7975 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 00:49:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11305 @ 0.00066529 = 7.5211 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 00:51:08 <bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161230.msg1703283#new
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Mar 30 00:57:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009999 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Mar 30 01:04:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1565 BTC [+]
Mar 30 01:05:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1565 BTC [+]
Mar 30 01:07:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.797794 = 2.3934 BTC [+]
Mar 30 01:07:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.79899 = 12.7838 BTC [+]
Mar 30 01:07:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 49 @ 0.799 = 39.151 BTC [+]
Mar 30 01:08:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 114 @ 0.8 = 91.2 BTC [+]
Mar 30 01:10:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00067327 = 10.604 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 01:42:26 <MJR_III>	new that wall would come down :)
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Mar 30 01:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7852 @ 0.00067459 = 5.2969 BTC [+]
Mar 30 01:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 689 @ 0.00066529 = 0.4584 BTC [-]
Mar 30 01:43:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9008 @ 0.00066393 = 5.9807 BTC [-]
Mar 30 01:53:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18583 @ 0.00067611 = 12.5642 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 02:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3817 @ 0.00067611 = 2.5807 BTC [+]
Mar 30 02:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067954 = 3.3977 BTC [+]
Mar 30 02:05:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6283 @ 0.00067955 = 4.2696 BTC [+]
Mar 30 02:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41499999 BTC [+]
Mar 30 02:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.415 = 1.66 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 02:32:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
Mar 30 02:46:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.00494 = 0.0198 BTC [+]
Mar 30 02:56:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.8 = 20 BTC [+]
Mar 30 02:56:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00066891 = 13.3113 BTC [-]
Mar 30 02:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [-]
Mar 30 03:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4550001 BTC [-]
Mar 30 03:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
Mar 30 03:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
Mar 30 03:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.415 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 03:11:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00066891 = 1.3378 BTC [-]
Mar 30 03:14:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 03:30:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 03:50:19 <MJR_III>	seems like the mpex bot is being a little more careful, but i could be wrong
Mar 30 03:50:45 <MJR_III>	might just be the larger jumps between prices throwing me off
Mar 30 03:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10167 @ 0.00066394 = 6.7503 BTC [-]
Mar 30 03:53:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3133 @ 0.00066393 = 2.0801 BTC [-]
Mar 30 03:53:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8 = 8 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 03:55:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Mar 30 03:56:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.43999 BTC [-]
Mar 30 03:56:52 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 30 03:56:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.40003, Best ask: 90.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.48997, Last trade: 90.89000, 24 hour volume: 70836.20720890, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 94.98000, 24 hour vwap: 90.25468
Mar 30 04:22:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00544 BTC [+]
Mar 30 04:22:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 19 @ 0.005455 = 0.1036 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 04:24:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00066393 = 7.1704 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 04:41:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+]
Mar 30 04:41:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Mar 30 04:42:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00066891 = 3.98 BTC [+]
Mar 30 04:42:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8653 @ 0.00067673 = 5.8557 BTC [+]
Mar 30 04:42:55 <MJR_III>	wow house of cards is a good show
Mar 30 04:44:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [+]
Mar 30 04:47:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Mar 30 04:47:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.01 = 0.06 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 04:58:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 0.8 = 13.6 BTC [+]
Mar 30 04:59:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1999 = 0.3998 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 05:16:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01001 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 05:19:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1565 = 0.313 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 05:43:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 05:54:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 15 @ 0.1565 = 2.3475 BTC [+]
Mar 30 05:59:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 06:02:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.37 = 4.07 BTC [+]
Mar 30 06:04:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.8 = 6.4 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 06:16:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6932 @ 0.00066409 = 4.6035 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 06:22:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1525 = 0.305 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 06:23:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3451 BTC [-]
Mar 30 06:24:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 06:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.38000001 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 06:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.88 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 06:34:32 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 30 06:34:40 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 228740 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1083 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7311735.07761 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.1984
Mar 30 06:42:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8 = 3.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 06:53:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-]
Mar 30 06:53:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [-]
Mar 30 06:54:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.771 BTC [-]
Mar 30 06:55:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.77 = 3.85 BTC [-]
Mar 30 06:56:33 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Mar 30 06:56:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 91.30001, Best ask: 91.98999, Bid-ask spread: 0.68998, Last trade: 91.30000, 24 hour volume: 68373.91210877, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 94.98000, 24 hour vwap: 90.17684
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Mar 30 07:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00066394 = 1.4607 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 10:41:23 *	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets
Mar 30 10:41:23 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/
Mar 30 10:41:23 *	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 08:15:50 2013
Mar 30 10:43:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.00409 = 0.1023 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 11:01:42 <taub>	hm, maybe there wont be a big second downmove from here
Mar 30 11:02:30 <PsychoticBoy>	March 2013	83959.02	8387.506098	-27794.62815427	-23.11%	
Mar 30 11:02:33 <PsychoticBoy>	Mircea
Mar 30 11:02:39 <PsychoticBoy>	wtf happend to the 27K btc?
Mar 30 11:04:01 <tiberiusiv>	what is that psycho?
Mar 30 11:04:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i have bids up, was just fishing to see if there were any sellers inside the spread that dont have asks up
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Mar 30 11:04:17 <tiberiusiv>	taub: i doubt there will be a crash this time around
Mar 30 11:04:19 <PsychoticBoy>	thats the mpoe bond profit, in this case LOSS
Mar 30 11:04:41 <tiberiusiv>	how did the bond lose?
Mar 30 11:04:48 <PsychoticBoy>	Mircea did you buy a new trailer with  that 27K btc?
Mar 30 11:04:51 <PsychoticBoy>	http://bigrab.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/gypsy-caravan.jpg
Mar 30 11:04:51 <tiberiusiv>	he daulted?
Mar 30 11:04:52 <ThickAsThieves>	it's all in bugpowder's pocket probly
Mar 30 11:05:01 <Bugpowder>	Jesus
Mar 30 11:05:01 <tiberiusiv>	hahaha psychotic
Mar 30 11:05:20 <tiberiusiv>	thats a huge fking loss
Mar 30 11:05:24 <tiberiusiv>	what does the bond finance?
Mar 30 11:05:30 <PsychoticBoy>	I know, mircea explain
Mar 30 11:05:38 <Bugpowder>	The market making not
Mar 30 11:05:41 <Bugpowder>	Not
Mar 30 11:05:43 <PsychoticBoy>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlhB0UHVxS67dGpBc2Rub3FtLTdHZ3ZPb09DY2pHWlE#gid=0
Mar 30 11:05:46 <Bugpowder>	Bot
Mar 30 11:05:49 <tiberiusiv>	it probably underwrites the options
Mar 30 11:05:55 <Bugpowder>	Yes
Mar 30 11:06:25 <tiberiusiv>	lol gypsy fuck takes other peoples $ to gamble with
Mar 30 11:06:29 <Bugpowder>	Historically it averages 12% return on notional exposure a month
Mar 30 11:06:32 <tiberiusiv>	no surprise
Mar 30 11:06:43 <Bugpowder>	But the variance is... High.
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Mar 30 11:06:53 <PsychoticBoy>	uhh the fuck up rate uis high
Mar 30 11:07:02 <tiberiusiv>	so the bonds are financing the otherside of the option trade.
Mar 30 11:07:04 <ThickAsThieves>	ihave to imagine the bot algo has been tightened, or?
Mar 30 11:07:28 <PsychoticBoy>	uhh he just stole your fucking btc, open your eyes man!
Mar 30 11:07:28 <tiberiusiv>	who lose the 28k though?
Mar 30 11:07:31 <Bugpowder>	It does do explicit hedging
Mar 30 11:07:38 <PsychoticBoy>	every investor in mpoe bonds
Mar 30 11:07:41 <Bugpowder>	Mostly mircera
Mar 30 11:07:58 <PsychoticBoy>	Mircea, you creep, explain your fuck up
Mar 30 11:08:02 <tiberiusiv>	psychotic: i highly doubt people gave the gypsy 84k btc
Mar 30 11:08:20 <Bugpowder>	It's all in the financial statement
Mar 30 11:08:26 <Bugpowder>	Read it
Mar 30 11:08:37 <PsychoticBoy>	* Onderwerp voor #bitfunder is: https://bitfunder.com - New 24hr record 2,310 BTC vol | btcQuick IPO Launched- https://bitfunder.com/asset/btcQuick
Mar 30 11:08:37 <PsychoticBoy>	* Onderwerp voor #bitfunder is ingesteld door Ukto!~Kami-Sama@99-30-79-193.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net op Fri Mar 29 01:12:02 2013
Mar 30 11:08:37 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> Coinbr.MPOE made a major loss
Mar 30 11:08:37 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> buyers are screwed
Mar 30 11:08:37 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> initial investment reduced by almost 30%
Mar 30 11:08:39 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> could not last long the gypsy trader
Mar 30 11:08:41 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> luckly I only lost what 4 btc
Mar 30 11:08:43 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> there goes Coinbr.mpoe sales ;)
Mar 30 11:08:45 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> Mircea`s fuck up impeium
Mar 30 11:08:47 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> imperium
Mar 30 11:08:49 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> enough talk, lets watch the april mpoe fuck up
Mar 30 11:08:51 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> should be a major loss also
Mar 30 11:08:55 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> follow the trend
Mar 30 11:08:57 <PsychoticBoy>	<btc196> wasn't it 23% not 30%
Mar 30 11:08:59 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> I think Mircea should hook up his horses to his trailer and take a ride
Mar 30 11:09:01 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> 23% is a bad as
Mar 30 11:09:03 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> 23 or 30 makes no difference
Mar 30 11:09:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Mar 30 11:09:05 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> its both a mojar loss
Mar 30 11:09:06 <tiberiusiv>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/
Mar 30 11:09:06 <ThickAsThieves>	STOP
Mar 30 11:09:07 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> major
Mar 30 11:09:09 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> Ukto
Mar 30 11:09:10 <tiberiusiv>	wow that is a massive loss
Mar 30 11:09:11 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> you should mark assets as HIGH RISK like a red label
Mar 30 11:09:13 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> assets like CoinBr.MPBPT
Mar 30 11:09:15 <PsychoticBoy>	<BitHub> how does mpex make a loss?
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Mar 30 11:09:17 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> then there would be lass scamming
Mar 30 11:09:19 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> Mircea is aloss
Mar 30 11:09:21 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> L
Mar 30 11:09:25 <PsychoticBoy>	<BitHub> did he do a runner?
Mar 30 11:09:27 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> Romanian trailer trash
Mar 30 11:09:29 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> no
Mar 30 11:09:31 <tiberiusiv>	psychotic fuck off with the flood
Mar 30 11:09:31 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> jurov should be ashamed of himself for doing business with MP
Mar 30 11:09:33 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> damn I have 100+ shares of that crap
Mar 30 11:09:33 <ThickAsThieves>	fucking idiot
Mar 30 11:09:35 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> should pay 10btc+ but is going to pay 7.7 btc for each 100 shares
Mar 30 11:09:37 <PsychoticBoy>	<BitHub> i need to go back and read up
Mar 30 11:09:39 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> I knew it got risks involved but a loss of a 23% is a bigger fuck up than anyone could imagine
Mar 30 11:09:42 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> back to the pirate days
Mar 30 11:09:44 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> Ukto please mark this crap with red or black label so ppl can see in an instance that it is probably better to walk away
Mar 30 11:09:47 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> and reading the prospectus does not make you any wiser (description) , it says high risk, now ppl know how HIGH
Mar 30 11:09:50 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy>  the dividend would be around 5.14% of nominal value.
Mar 30 11:09:54 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> jurov please change your misleading description
Mar 30 11:09:56 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> to something like: this bond will payout 0-110% of its nominal value
Mar 30 11:09:58 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> at this point its 77%
Mar 30 11:10:00 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> last month 109%
Mar 30 11:10:02 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> next month 50%
Mar 30 11:10:04 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> lol
Mar 30 11:10:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.39999999 BTC [-]
Mar 30 11:10:06 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> a slots machine here in the netherlands has a higher return, 78% min
Mar 30 11:10:08 <PsychoticBoy>	<PsychoticBoy> wow, mpoe is worse tahn slots who would have thought ;)
Mar 30 11:10:10 <PsychoticBoy>	yuup
Mar 30 11:10:12 <PsychoticBoy>	no, I have the right to share my opinion
Mar 30 11:10:14 <OneMiner>	+b PsychoticBoy
Mar 30 11:10:20 <TomServo>	^
Mar 30 11:10:23 <PsychoticBoy>	thanks oneminer
Mar 30 11:10:24 <ThickAsThieves>	^
Mar 30 11:10:44 <PsychoticBoy>	ignoring the truth will help
Mar 30 11:10:45 <Bugpowder>	This was always possible, very clearly so
Mar 30 11:10:46 <ThickAsThieves>	you dont have the right to spam
Mar 30 11:10:59 <ThickAsThieves>	just ask your questions cleanly
Mar 30 11:11:02 <PsychoticBoy>	It was not intended to be spam
Mar 30 11:11:02 <ThickAsThieves>	and wait for answers
Mar 30 11:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
Mar 30 11:11:05 <tiberiusiv>	wow the gypsy got hosed
Mar 30 11:11:05 <Bugpowder>	Based on August results
Mar 30 11:11:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.106 = 0.742 BTC [+]
Mar 30 11:11:30 <OneMiner>	There's no doubt that this is self aggrandizing trolling. If what you are saying is the truth or not you're trying to make yourself the center of attention. Knock it off.
Mar 30 11:11:34 <tiberiusiv>	that loss is fucking massive
Mar 30 11:11:45 <tiberiusiv>	considering mpex earns nothing per month it would take years to make up for it
Mar 30 11:11:48 <PsychoticBoy>	I just want ppl to know how fucked up this shit is atm
Mar 30 11:11:48 <Bugpowder>	Actual losses of principal were 19k of which mircrea provided 75% of
Mar 30 11:12:02 <tiberiusiv>	lol the gypsy gets owned
Mar 30 11:12:27 <tiberiusiv>	bugowder: that loss is like 5 years of mpex "profits"
Mar 30 11:12:37 <tiberiusiv>	how many more losses could mircea handle without busting out?
Mar 30 11:12:38 <OneMiner>	Ya, just wanted to pass into. Like everything you've said about it and how your opinion matters so much. Don't flood.
Mar 30 11:12:48 <Bugpowder>	That is not true
Mar 30 11:12:51 <Bugpowder>	Look at past statements
Mar 30 11:12:55 <PsychoticBoy>	ok Oneminer
Mar 30 11:12:59 <PsychoticBoy>	no hard feelings
Mar 30 11:13:02 <ThickAsThieves>	my only question is, has the bot algo been adjusted to mitigate this exposure in the future
Mar 30 11:13:06 <tiberiusiv>	Profit : 393.78088035 BTC
Mar 30 11:13:14 <tiberiusiv>	Loss : -27`794.62815427 BTC
Mar 30 11:13:21 <Bugpowder>	Mpex is a sideshow
Mar 30 11:13:22 <ThickAsThieves>	or is this just how it is
Mar 30 11:13:29 <Bugpowder>	Mpoe is the real profit engine
Mar 30 11:13:34 <tiberiusiv>	no it isnt
Mar 30 11:13:36 <PsychoticBoy>	loss engine
Mar 30 11:13:39 <tiberiusiv>	its made nothing.
Mar 30 11:13:52 <PsychoticBoy>	it is eating your bitcoins
Mar 30 11:14:00 <tiberiusiv>	that loss wiped out everything mircea has ever made
Mar 30 11:14:07 <PsychoticBoy>	MP got a new home bexcause of our bitcoin
Mar 30 11:14:10 <tiberiusiv>	how many more losses can he handle?
Mar 30 11:14:25 <tiberiusiv>	before being busted and having to default on bond.
Mar 30 11:14:43 <ThickAsThieves>	Pycho, you only lost a few hundred bux
Mar 30 11:14:49 <ThickAsThieves>	cheap lesson
Mar 30 11:15:06 <tiberiusiv>	do not give  your $ to anyone from romania ive said that from day 1 on her.
Mar 30 11:15:08 <tiberiusiv>	here*
Mar 30 11:15:23 <Bugpowder>	Well considering the max bond exposure is always less than the total capital, indefinitely.
Mar 30 11:15:31 <tiberiusiv>	mircea doesnt have enough BTC to handle anymore losses like that he just wiped out most of his profits from the last year+
Mar 30 11:15:46 <Bugpowder>	Although the bot liquidity might go bye bye
Mar 30 11:15:53 <tiberiusiv>	no shit
Mar 30 11:15:53 <PsychoticBoy>	I am talking for all the investors, not only my few hundred bucks but the thousands of bucks from other investors
Mar 30 11:15:56 <tiberiusiv>	i said that yesterday
Mar 30 11:16:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i lost some too
Mar 30 11:16:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i blame me
Mar 30 11:16:09 <tiberiusiv>	mpex options are a fking joke someone has to take the other side of the risk
Mar 30 11:16:27 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder has all the gains :D
Mar 30 11:16:30 <PsychoticBoy>	sell your trailer MP
Mar 30 11:16:42 <tiberiusiv>	dude he lives in a slum apartment
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Mar 30 11:16:52 <Bugpowder>	I wish I had all the gains.
Mar 30 11:17:01 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder you did good didnt you?
Mar 30 11:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Mar 30 11:17:03 <PsychoticBoy>	it was a joke not far from the truth
Mar 30 11:17:12 <ThickAsThieves>	but if MP lost that much covering the bonds, I'd like to hear if changes have been made to mitigate
Mar 30 11:17:13 <Bugpowder>	Yeah, extremely well
Mar 30 11:17:28 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves mircea is a fking toolbag
Mar 30 11:17:33 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug who are you talking to, i must have them on ignore
Mar 30 11:17:37 <tiberiusiv>	that loss was HUGE. it raped any profits hes earned
Mar 30 11:17:39 <Bugpowder>	Lol
Mar 30 11:17:53 <PsychoticBoy>	lets log this shit and slap it in mirceas face once in a while
Mar 30 11:17:55 <tiberiusiv>	15k BTC personal loss is more then hes made on his ventures
Mar 30 11:18:19 <PsychoticBoy>	when I yaps about how fucking greart mpex is
Mar 30 11:18:20 <tiberiusiv>	thats like all of voorhees profits from sdice
Mar 30 11:18:34 <tiberiusiv>	do you realize that he cant handle losses like that in the future?
Mar 30 11:18:41 <Bugpowder>	Anyway, if you dont understand the risks of being a bond holder, you should probably go back to the gloves kiddy pool
Mar 30 11:18:52 <Bugpowder>	Glbse
Mar 30 11:18:52 <PsychoticBoy>	I= he
Mar 30 11:19:00 <tiberiusiv>	why would anyone lend money to use for gambling?
Mar 30 11:19:20 <PsychoticBoy>	Glbse = kiddy pool, then MPEX is what???????
Mar 30 11:19:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.00409 = 0.0368 BTC [-]
Mar 30 11:19:35 <tiberiusiv>	mircea almost surpassed pirate for losses
Mar 30 11:19:40 <PsychoticBoy>	gypsy trading bazar?
Mar 30 11:19:40 <tiberiusiv>	$3mil
Mar 30 11:19:47 <ThickAsThieves>	unignoring tiberius :(
Mar 30 11:19:57 <tiberiusiv>	hi thick
Mar 30 11:20:01 <ThickAsThieves>	ola
Mar 30 11:20:24 <tiberiusiv>	thick: i was saying that mircea cant handle more losse like this without going bust. hes wiped out any profit gains hes made for the past 12months.
Mar 30 11:20:43 <Bugpowder>	Anyway, have a wonderful weekend.
Mar 30 11:20:43 <tiberiusiv>	$3mil lost
Mar 30 11:20:46 <tiberiusiv>	hes right before pirate
Mar 30 11:20:52 <tiberiusiv>	happy easter bugpowder.
Mar 30 11:20:55 <PsychoticBoy>	do you really think that? most of the losses is compesated by investors
Mar 30 11:21:07 <tiberiusiv>	psychotic he owns 80% of those garbage bonds
Mar 30 11:21:15 <PsychoticBoy>	for free
Mar 30 11:21:21 <PsychoticBoy>	we paid for them
Mar 30 11:21:22 <tiberiusiv>	psychotic: unless hes paying for it through share issuance
Mar 30 11:21:26 <tiberiusiv>	of all his scams
Mar 30 11:21:43 <tiberiusiv>	psychoticboy: why would you buy bonds that finance gambling?
Mar 30 11:21:57 <PsychoticBoy>	If the gambling made a profit
Mar 30 11:22:06 <tiberiusiv>	when does it ever?
Mar 30 11:22:08 <PsychoticBoy>	you mean sdice?
Mar 30 11:22:09 <Bugpowder>	Because he didn't understand the real risks
Mar 30 11:22:15 <tiberiusiv>	psychotic: no i mean mpoe
Mar 30 11:22:20 <tiberiusiv>	options trading = gambling.
Mar 30 11:22:23 <ThickAsThieves>	MPs losses are a small portion of his assets, but I have to assume he will asjust exposure of the bot after this, no?
Mar 30 11:22:26 <tiberiusiv>	and mpoe was taking the other side of everytrade
Mar 30 11:22:33 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: no they arent.
Mar 30 11:22:42 <PsychoticBoy>	It never said how the ;losses would be divided
Mar 30 11:22:44 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: 15k btc is waht voorhees made on SDICE.
Mar 30 11:22:54 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: over the last year
Mar 30 11:23:00 <Bugpowder>	Mpoe bonds never seemed like a good value prop To me.
Mar 30 11:23:05 <tiberiusiv>	those losses are HUGE.
Mar 30 11:23:06 <ThickAsThieves>	what does sdice have to do with this
Mar 30 11:23:15 <Bugpowder>	Sdice has made
Mar 30 11:23:16 <Bugpowder>	70k
Mar 30 11:23:21 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: because sdice is the most profitable btc company
Mar 30 11:23:28 <ThickAsThieves>	so
Mar 30 11:23:38 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthives: what mircea lost
Mar 30 11:23:40 <PsychoticBoy>	most profitable for the issuer yes
Mar 30 11:23:45 <tiberiusiv>	is YEARS of profits
Mar 30 11:23:47 <tiberiusiv>	for mpex etc.
Mar 30 11:23:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought you were chiding MP, not Erik
Mar 30 11:23:57 <tiberiusiv>	i was comparing
Mar 30 11:24:05 <tiberiusiv>	how mircea cant handle losses like that
Mar 30 11:24:08 <tiberiusiv>	in the future
Mar 30 11:24:15 <tiberiusiv>	that 15k BTC is a huge hit
Mar 30 11:24:31 <tiberiusiv>	none of his "business" generate a high enough profit
Mar 30 11:24:34 <tiberiusiv>	to make it back
Mar 30 11:24:38 <ThickAsThieves>	right, so rather than litter this chan with bitching, I'm just asking what I think is a sensible question,
Mar 30 11:24:49 <ThickAsThieves>	will he protect the bot better
Mar 30 11:24:52 <tiberiusiv>	bitbet does like 5btc a month and mpex 300 if you believe him
Mar 30 11:24:58 <PsychoticBoy>	he only has to explain the losses, thats all
Mar 30 11:25:01 <tiberiusiv>	if he does his exchange is over
Mar 30 11:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	<ThickAsThieves> my only question is, has the bot algo been adjusted to mitigate this exposure in the future << no.
Mar 30 11:25:15 <tiberiusiv>	because there wont be anyone to take the other side of the trade
Mar 30 11:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	bot hasn't been altered fundamentally since 2011
Mar 30 11:25:28 <ThickAsThieves>	thank you
Mar 30 11:25:34 <tiberiusiv>	the BOT cant be altered without mpoe collapsing
Mar 30 11:25:41 <tiberiusiv>	it takes the other side of trades.
Mar 30 11:25:56 <Bugpowder>	I'm sure u could tweak the ago
Mar 30 11:25:57 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is busted out completely if theres more losses in the future.
Mar 30 11:25:58 <ThickAsThieves>	MP, so you'll continue to take on the majority liability of the bot?
Mar 30 11:26:01 <Bugpowder>	Ago
Mar 30 11:26:02 <Bugpowder>	Algo
Mar 30 11:26:04 <PsychoticBoy>	so its a fuck up in all cases?
Mar 30 11:26:05 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder do you cant.
Mar 30 11:26:08 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the issue is that people make assumption based on the algo as is
Mar 30 11:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	any tweak is fundamentally market intervention
Mar 30 11:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	the correct fix is for bond ppl to set appropriatge interests
Mar 30 11:26:26 <tiberiusiv>	pyschoticboy: yes in the future mircea can be completely bankrupt.
Mar 30 11:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	not for me to dick around in the fabric of the universe.
Mar 30 11:26:33 <tiberiusiv>	without issueing more bonds
Mar 30 11:26:44 <ThickAsThieves>	but the sustainability of your setup is in danger if price continues to move violently
Mar 30 11:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i've always backstopped the bot, since day one.
Mar 30 11:26:48 <tiberiusiv>	how many BTCs do you think he honestly has
Mar 30 11:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	if not enough bonds sell i'm covering.
Mar 30 11:27:05 <PsychoticBoy>	stole from this venture?
Mar 30 11:27:12 <PsychoticBoy>	lots more than 25K
Mar 30 11:27:30 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is a retard. today proves it.
Mar 30 11:27:35 <tiberiusiv>	all critics like me are vindicated
Mar 30 11:27:38 <ZedsterX>	lol
Mar 30 11:27:51 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm about to put you two back on ignore fml
Mar 30 11:28:04 <PsychoticBoy>	who 2?
Mar 30 11:28:06 <tiberiusiv>	the guy lost in 30days what pirate scammed in 6months.
Mar 30 11:28:07 <ThickAsThieves>	Psycho, tib, grow up plz
Mar 30 11:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder anyway, the variance would be fucking high. +400% a month fml.
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Mar 30 11:28:23 <Bugpowder>	Yah
Mar 30 11:28:24 <OneMiner>	Why is the whole internet a troll magnet? Be respectful, please.
Mar 30 11:28:38 <tiberiusiv>	respectful? the guy has 0 concept of risk management
Mar 30 11:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/embed/LJP1DphOWPs << this guy...
Mar 30 11:28:49 <tiberiusiv>	next time around he wont have the BTC to cover losses.
Mar 30 11:29:02 <Bugpowder>	And for me, if I don't see what I consider to be mispriced options, I'm not going to buy them
Mar 30 11:29:09 <tiberiusiv>	meaning profitable traders get hosed.
Mar 30 11:29:09 <OneMiner>	Just don't be rude about it. There's no reason to be a jerk.
Mar 30 11:29:11 <PsychoticBoy>	I really hate it when ppl dont want to see whats happening before their own eyes,
Mar 30 11:29:20 <PsychoticBoy>	and then blame me
Mar 30 11:29:24 <ThickAsThieves>	no, THIS guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTwQXpGtTyE
Mar 30 11:29:27 <tiberiusiv>	oneminer: what that mircea is a fraud?
Mar 30 11:29:32 <tiberiusiv>	and today proves it?
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Mar 30 11:29:47 <Bugpowder>	Where is the fraud here?
Mar 30 11:29:51 <OneMiner>	Cool, say it once and be done.
Mar 30 11:29:52 <tiberiusiv>	oneminer: mircea wont have enough BTC to make traders whole the next time this happens.
Mar 30 11:29:59 <PsychoticBoy>	WTF lol
Mar 30 11:30:05 <Bugpowder>	Not seeing it. I'm seeing clear contracts traded and honored
Mar 30 11:30:06 <ZedsterX>	can't we all just be freinds
Mar 30 11:30:07 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: mircea is a fraud, option traders will get hosed
Mar 30 11:30:24 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: that hit was massive to his capital reserve.
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Mar 30 11:30:41 <tiberiusiv>	the gypsy threw darts at a board and missed.
Mar 30 11:30:47 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont see any fraud either
Mar 30 11:31:00 <Bugpowder>	What about covered exposure are you pretending you don't understand?
Mar 30 11:31:14 <tiberiusiv>	a loss was taken.
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Mar 30 11:31:17 <OneMiner>	I personally don't know and don't hold any of this asset. But I'm being prevented from listening to any intelligent talk about the issue by trolling.Wether you think you are justified or not.
Mar 30 11:31:22 <tiberiusiv>	and it as substantial
Mar 30 11:31:25 <Bugpowder>	You are clearly
Mar 30 11:31:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C092T] 575 @ 0.24943748 = 143.4266 BTC [+]
Mar 30 11:31:44 <Bugpowder>	Heheh
Mar 30 11:31:48 <Bugpowder>	More options!!!
Mar 30 11:31:51 <Bugpowder>	Moar
Mar 30 11:31:58 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: you dont know how many of the bonds are actually covered since he owns 80%+ of them.
Mar 30 11:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	fucking hell am i going to be paying .6 btc worth 200 each on these ?
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Mar 30 11:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	i tell you, running the options book is the worst fucking racket there is. when you get no trade you're depressed, when you do get trade you're worried.
Mar 30 11:32:47 <tiberiusiv>	becuase you are stupid.
Mar 30 11:32:53 <tiberiusiv>	and dont understand risk management
Mar 30 11:33:07 <tiberiusiv>	your automatically taking the other side of the bet without hedging against a loss.
Mar 30 11:33:13 <OneMiner>	Oh lord. +b tiberiusiv He's just repeating himself over and over.
Mar 30 11:33:24 <OneMiner>	It's a slow flood.
Mar 30 11:33:25 <tiberiusiv>	you dont like the truth oneminer?
Mar 30 11:33:32 <mircea_popescu>	OneMiner prolly ignore works better than banning people.
Mar 30 11:33:41 <OneMiner>	*sigh*
Mar 30 11:34:02 <tiberiusiv>	Loss : -27`794.62815427 BTC
Mar 30 11:34:02 <OneMiner>	Ignore is confusing. Can't tell who is talking to who.
Mar 30 11:34:06 <tiberiusiv>	that should be a channel topic
Mar 30 11:34:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is true.
Mar 30 11:34:24 <ThickAsThieves>	ignore doesnt work when people keep feeding the troll
Mar 30 11:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	it DOES make unignored people look like muppets when they're in effect talking to themselves lol
Mar 30 11:34:46 <ThickAsThieves>	tib has been polluting this channel all week
Mar 30 11:34:51 <Bugpowder>	Ciuciu is back!  I thought he was gone after robbing everyone
Mar 30 11:34:58 <ThickAsThieves>	and was already banned once
Mar 30 11:35:05 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder girl said he was there to warn everyone about her shirt
Mar 30 11:35:26 <PsychoticBoy>	ciuciu paid more % back than mpoe bonds so dont attack ciuciu
Mar 30 11:35:48 <PsychoticBoy>	I got paid by ciuciu
Mar 30 11:35:59 <tiberiusiv>	psychoticboy: why would you lend money to a gypsy?
Mar 30 11:36:09 <tiberiusiv>	ciuciu is another romanian.
Mar 30 11:36:19 <ThickAsThieves>	quit with the gypsy shit
Mar 30 11:37:14 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 30 11:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066393 / 0.00067378 / 0.00068314 (591559 shares, 398.58 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.00066121 / 0.00071369 (2268750 shares, 1,500.12 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.00073136 / 0.00078628 (17700228 shares, 12,945.38 BTC)
Mar 30 11:37:23 <thestrin1puller>	oh nice
Mar 30 11:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	wait it went up ?
Mar 30 11:37:48 <Bugpowder>	Up Pre report
Mar 30 11:37:52 <thestrin1puller>	yea
Mar 30 11:37:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C089T] 120 @ 0.26539875 = 31.8479 BTC
Mar 30 11:38:01 <Bugpowder>	Not much action since?
Mar 30 11:38:01 <tiberiusiv>	lol because its mircea's trades
Mar 30 11:38:06 <tiberiusiv>	i love how he acts surprised
Mar 30 11:38:09 <tiberiusiv>	on price manipulation
Mar 30 11:38:16 <mircea_popescu>	kinda incredible
Mar 30 11:38:22 <tiberiusiv>	pretending he didnt know.
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Mar 30 11:38:43 <thestrin1puller>	there is a 29k loss for bondholders, maybe bondholders aren't mpoe holders
Mar 30 11:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	then again... i guess i can see it. shareholders don't care, not their skin. made a 39 per which is not really much lower than usual
Mar 30 11:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller they are lol. i hold most of mpoe and held most of the bond book >.<
Mar 30 11:39:31 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: what's the plan to bring MPOE bot to MPOE bot 2.0
Mar 30 11:39:37 <ThickAsThieves>	how are bonds purchased, other than thrue the coinbr bitfunder assets?
Mar 30 11:39:59 <ThickAsThieves>	through*
Mar 30 11:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves you send no less than 100 btc to 1JPvucRfu3ZzEvfBUQTJwsxMrZjeTqD6zR ending in 888 (so like 100.00000888) after you've emailed me stating your beneficiary addy and desired %
Mar 30 11:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller what'd 2.0 be like ?
Mar 30 11:40:50 <thestrin1puller>	dunno, seems the bot has trouble with times of extreme volatility
Mar 30 11:41:01 <thestrin1puller>	except for Feb
Mar 30 11:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	listen, there's no way to make a bot so you always win.
Mar 30 11:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes you'll take a beating.
Mar 30 11:41:42 <ThickAsThieves>	sensible, but it seems odd to be THAT exposed in the algo
Mar 30 11:41:58 <mircea_popescu>	but this is what it does. mpoe bot is in the market of buying exposure.
Mar 30 11:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	so other people can sell their exposure and increase their safety.
Mar 30 11:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	for this service it charges.
Mar 30 11:42:20 <ThickAsThieves>	or pays
Mar 30 11:42:22 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 30 11:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	it's sort of like insurance, if you will. you pay a little every month
Mar 30 11:42:31 <mircea_popescu>	when a hurricane hits the insurer pays through the teeth.
Mar 30 11:42:35 <thestrin1puller>	how do bondholers then hedge their risk?
Mar 30 11:42:41 <thestrin1puller>	bondholders*
Mar 30 11:42:51 <ThickAsThieves>	buying options
Mar 30 11:42:57 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller well they don't really. the idea is they're taking on risk for a high %
Mar 30 11:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe-bonds are pretty much the highest reward / highest risk actgion in btc.
Mar 30 11:43:26 <mircea_popescu>	by a wide margin, with a lot of depth etc.
Mar 30 11:43:52 <ThickAsThieves>	the history of gained % seems a bit disproportionate to the risk
Mar 30 11:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	if that's true then bondholders have been mispricing their %
Mar 30 11:44:27 <ThickAsThieves>	you are learget bondholder
Mar 30 11:44:32 <ThickAsThieves>	largest*
Mar 30 11:44:38 <thestrin1puller>	as a last resort though
Mar 30 11:44:39 <ThickAsThieves>	right?
Mar 30 11:44:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i see
Mar 30 11:44:47 <mircea_popescu>	well ya on this month. i rarely participate in the actual market.
Mar 30 11:44:54 <mircea_popescu>	as in, i don't set a %, i just take whatever the max was
Mar 30 11:44:59 <asciilifeform>	question: wtf do gypsies have to do with all of this?
Mar 30 11:45:05 <thestrin1puller>	...
Mar 30 11:45:12 <ThickAsThieves>	thats not a question
Mar 30 11:45:15 <ThickAsThieves>	its a troll
Mar 30 11:46:07 <DeaDTerra>	WTS GSDPT shares and BTCQuick shares :)
Mar 30 11:46:15 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: why not create a war chest? For times like thse.
Mar 30 11:46:16 <thestrin1puller>	these*
Mar 30 11:46:22 <mircea_popescu>	what's a warchest ?
Mar 30 11:47:35 <ThickAsThieves>	a reserve
Mar 30 11:47:56 <thestrin1puller>	is it unnecessary or what...?
Mar 30 11:48:08 <thestrin1puller>	http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/03/29/digital-currency-bitcoin-surpasses-20-national-currencies-in-value/ - lol fox news
Mar 30 11:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	well, imo it would just muddy the waters.
Mar 30 11:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	atm mpoe is a 0 capital venture, which is a good thing.
Mar 30 11:48:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9014 @ 0.00067281 = 6.0647 BTC [-]
Mar 30 11:48:51 <thestrin1puller>	I've used the same model for some of my real life ventures, it's a very good model in that you view capital as "equipment"
Mar 30 11:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
Mar 30 11:49:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4994 = 2.9964 BTC [+]
Mar 30 11:49:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.4995 = 5.994 BTC [+]
Mar 30 11:49:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 72 @ 0.4999 = 35.9928 BTC [+]
Mar 30 11:49:16 <thestrin1puller>	however it's the riskiness involved in "borrowing" the capital (can it be paid back /w interest)
Mar 30 11:50:54 <Scrat>	the trolling potential of this channel is quite high. how could I miss this
Mar 30 11:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41499998 BTC [+]
Mar 30 11:53:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41499999 BTC [+]
Mar 30 11:53:05 <thestrin1puller>	trolls with no money have no purpose :P
Mar 30 11:53:08 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker h HIM
Mar 30 11:53:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.88000000 / 1.89 / 1.89500000 (3 shares, 5.67000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.72614891 / 2.00000000 (182 shares, 314.15910103 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.82208764 / 17.25000000 (716 shares, 1304.61475269 BTC)
Mar 30 11:56:15 <taub>	 I guess I can now go to my grave having contributed ~15k BTC of my own to the stabilisation of BTC <- was that big push you yesterday? :>
Mar 30 11:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> Mpex is a sideshow <<< if it weren't for mpex there'd have been no divs this month at all.
Mar 30 11:57:47 <Bugpowder>	In terms of the main profit engine
Mar 30 11:58:09 <Bugpowder>	Mpoe has provided most of the returns and volatility
Mar 30 11:58:24 <Bugpowder>	Mpex is a steady stream
Mar 30 11:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.93 = 9.65 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 11:59:55 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Mar 30 12:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	just like a successful marriage.
Mar 30 12:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	mpex makes sure there's warm server soup on the table.
Mar 30 12:00:44 <benkay>	isn't that what the help is for?
Mar 30 12:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.198 BTC [+]
Mar 30 12:01:56 <mircea_popescu>	taub how you mean ?
Mar 30 12:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.41499998 = 0.83 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.41499998 = 1.66 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 12:10:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 24 @ 0.37 = 8.88 BTC [+]
Mar 30 12:10:29 <taub>	yesterday on mygox there suddenly was 15k on the bid
Mar 30 12:10:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7701 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:10:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7701 = 1.5402 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:10:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.77 = 1.54 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:10:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7653 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:10:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7605 = 4.563 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:10:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.7603 = 6.0824 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:10:56 <mircea_popescu>	nah, that was about the options coverage.
Mar 30 12:11:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7602 = 7.602 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:11:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:11:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.75 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:11:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:11:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 38 @ 0.74 = 28.12 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:11:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.38 = 1.9 BTC [+]
Mar 30 12:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.1999 BTC [+]
Mar 30 12:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41499998 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:13:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 48 @ 0.00409 = 0.1963 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:14:01 <taub>	but mpex either needs more horrible traders
Mar 30 12:14:11 <taub>	or you could start hedging your options
Mar 30 12:14:32 <taub>	to bring down that big variance...
Mar 30 12:14:42 <taub>	you're basically operating a bucket shop
Mar 30 12:14:56 <taub>	but not enough suckers
Mar 30 12:15:03 <taub>	who lose on their options
Mar 30 12:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	i don't follow your logic.
Mar 30 12:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	how is it a bucket shop ?
Mar 30 12:17:01 <taub>	because you take the other side of each trade, if traders only win against you then you lose money
Mar 30 12:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	that;'s not what a bucket shop is.
Mar 30 12:17:44 <taub>	in forex i thought it was, a broker taht assumes most of their customers are gonna lose money
Mar 30 12:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway : mpoe can't hedge. what it does is it allows others to hedge against it.
Mar 30 12:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	let me find you the relevant article.
Mar 30 12:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#27 and next 2
Mar 30 12:19:11 <benkay>	would you elaborate on what a bucket shop is and why MPEx is not that?
Mar 30 12:19:29 <taub>	the exchange i solid
Mar 30 12:19:35 <taub>	the option bot is the worrysome part
Mar 30 12:19:45 <taub>	*is solid
Mar 30 12:20:06 <benkay>	i also do not understand the option bot's behavior.
Mar 30 12:20:21 <taub>	mircea_popescu: if the underlying volume and depth cant support your options you shouldnt be offering them like that maybe ;)
Mar 30 12:20:34 <jurov>	lol all the hate. inbetween, coinbr got possibly most deposits in one day in few hrs i was afk
Mar 30 12:20:36 <benkay>	or its role. mircea_popescu, would you elaborate on the bot's role?
Mar 30 12:20:40 <jurov>	this month
Mar 30 12:20:44 <mircea_popescu>	ok let's see.
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Mar 30 12:20:52 <jurov>	they will be processed shortly
Mar 30 12:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.4999 = 9.998 BTC [+]
Mar 30 12:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	a bucket shop is a currently illegal, historically popular venue to take side bets on stocks.
Mar 30 12:21:10 <jurov>	as well as mpoe dividend
Mar 30 12:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	the operator would offer very high margin and trade with low net worth parties who couldn't participate in the real marketsd.
Mar 30 12:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	mpex does offer stocks, but that's not under discussion here. as for the derivative trade, ie options, these are a different market from the underlying.
Mar 30 12:22:19 <taub>	most forex brokers still operate like that
Mar 30 12:22:30 <mircea_popescu>	so does that clarify the difference ?
Mar 30 12:23:07 <benkay>	yes, that makes sense. and the bot?
Mar 30 12:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	okay. the bot itself is a primary seller of safety in btc.
Mar 30 12:23:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10143 @ 0.00067879 = 6.885 BTC [+]
Mar 30 12:23:49 <benkay>	I don't understand the phrase "seller of safety in btc".
Mar 30 12:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	this is what it does. if i go buy safety somewhere else then i'm no longer PROVIDING it
Mar 30 12:24:00 <mircea_popescu>	i'm just flipping it.
Mar 30 12:24:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41499999 BTC [+]
Mar 30 12:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	benkay take the insurance example, because it is really very apt.
Mar 30 12:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	if there's a flood plain and farmers work that plain,
Mar 30 12:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	it would be beneficial for them to buy flood insurance.
Mar 30 12:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	the only way to actually underwrite this is to have a lot of money, sign insurance policies with the farmers.
Mar 30 12:24:44 <taub>	i dont think thats how real option issuer work tho
Mar 30 12:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	when floods hit you pay.
Mar 30 12:24:47 <taub>	you got the cpital
Mar 30 12:24:53 <taub>	why not hedge
Mar 30 12:25:08 <mircea_popescu>	the alternative would be to simply re-buy insurance somewhere else. but this isn't underwriting, this is simply trading.
Mar 30 12:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not trading volatility, i'm actually providing the hedge endpoint.
Mar 30 12:25:40 <mircea_popescu>	or if you prefer the example of the internet : second, third and higher tier providers BUY bandwidth.
Mar 30 12:25:49 <mircea_popescu>	but the 1st level providers don't buy it, cause there's nobody to buy it from
Mar 30 12:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	they just swap it.
Mar 30 12:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	or in other words "create" it.
Mar 30 12:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	taub cause there's nobody to hedge against.
Mar 30 12:27:03 <mircea_popescu>	the moment i go in the market to hedge i'm basically releasing all the risk out there. this isn't waht mpoe does. mpoe just soaks up the risk.
Mar 30 12:27:03 <thestrin1puller>	doesn't i say that in your faq?
Mar 30 12:27:27 <thestrin1puller>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#27 http://mpex.co/faq.html#28
Mar 30 12:27:28 <benkay>	thanks mp, i understand the mechanism a little better now. what I still don't understand is what the MPOE bot is up to.
Mar 30 12:27:47 <thestrin1puller>	"You can't pull yourself up by your breeches and for the very same reason you can't have everybody in the market hedge. Someone needs to provide the support everyone else relies on to hedge. I'm that someone." - MP
Mar 30 12:28:14 <benkay>	we are engaging in a discussion of this topic, yes
Mar 30 12:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	benkay up to as in how you mean ?
Mar 30 12:28:33 <benkay>	no as in like wtf is it actually doing
Mar 30 12:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	it makes bids and asks for the options.
Mar 30 12:29:22 <benkay>	how does it decide where to place its bids?
Mar 30 12:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's proprietary. it has an algo.
Mar 30 12:29:50 <benkay>	so it behaves as just another trader?
Mar 30 12:29:57 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much yea
Mar 30 12:30:25 <benkay>	providing liquidity to the market?
Mar 30 12:30:27 <thestrin1puller>	why isn't the bot quoting right now?
Mar 30 12:30:42 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller isnt it ?
Mar 30 12:30:47 <mircea_popescu>	benkay yep
Mar 30 12:31:19 <thestrin1puller>	nvm it's back up
Mar 30 12:31:22 <thestrin1puller>	site was lying to me
Mar 30 12:31:38 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 30 12:31:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 55.14018691 / 85.06423935 / 85.06556611 (111010 shares, 22,104.19 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 30 12:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	oix is fucked because of the mpsic change
Mar 30 12:31:58 <thestrin1puller>	oh
Mar 30 12:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	it will make sense again in about a week.
Mar 30 12:32:21 <taub>	they are binary options yea? dont think i quite understand their pricing from 0 to 1
Mar 30 12:32:21 <thestrin1puller>	all the way up to 200 I see :)
Mar 30 12:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	taub not binary. american style btc settled.
Mar 30 12:32:44 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller ya, there's a notice.
Mar 30 12:33:42 <benkay>	what exchange-proprietary information does the bot get access to?
Mar 30 12:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	none.
Mar 30 12:33:54 <benkay>	obviously you have to say that.
Mar 30 12:33:57 <mircea_popescu>	all it sees is the btc/usd history
Mar 30 12:34:05 <mircea_popescu>	which is public
Mar 30 12:34:28 <thestrin1puller>	am I the only one who feels bad for this month's bond holders?
Mar 30 12:34:32 <bitesak>	thanks mp for the service you provide;
Mar 30 12:34:42 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: exercises are not public
Mar 30 12:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	bitesak i'd normally say my pleasure... but this month was a little rough.
Mar 30 12:35:05 <mircea_popescu>	jurov the bot doesn't see exercises tho
Mar 30 12:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller no, i feel bad for them too.
Mar 30 12:35:27 <thestrin1puller>	I guess we can't always have months like Jan
Mar 30 12:35:41 <bitesak>	do you adjust the algo going forward to take into consideration what causes big losses?
Mar 30 12:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
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Mar 30 12:36:20 <jurov>	no replies on btctalk so far... but we'll see when ppl come to bitfunder to receive only 0.081 pre share
Mar 30 12:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	jurov scam
Mar 30 12:36:53 <thestrin1puller>	what was the % loss for the PT jurov ?
Mar 30 12:36:58 <thestrin1puller>	40?
Mar 30 12:37:07 <tiberiusiv>	jurov i cant believe you are participating in the mircea racket :(
Mar 30 12:37:08 <jurov>	wat?
Mar 30 12:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	like 25% i'd expect
Mar 30 12:37:21 <jurov>	it's 1:1 to MPOE
Mar 30 12:37:23 <tiberiusiv>	jurov did you see the losses mpex bondholders took
Mar 30 12:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	23
Mar 30 12:37:29 <jurov>	yes
Mar 30 12:37:30 <thestrin1puller>	"All complaints of bondholder loss should be directed to Bugpowder who now holds your money"
Mar 30 12:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Mar 30 12:37:46 <thestrin1puller>	:D
Mar 30 12:37:51 <jurov>	heh, i made some myself, tooo
Mar 30 12:37:58 <mircea_popescu>	do you even know that ? lol
Mar 30 12:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he's just talkin'.
Mar 30 12:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	poor guy lol. one day he's claiming market success like what... 99% of all internet ppl in financial rooms
Mar 30 12:38:28 <mircea_popescu>	the next they ANGRY MOB WITH PITCHFORKS
Mar 30 12:39:14 <thestrin1puller>	Maybe he'll start a company to benefit bitcoin (yay optimism LOL)
Mar 30 12:40:27 <jurov>	he;'ll benefit tesla motors
Mar 30 12:40:35 <thestrin1puller>	tiberiusiv: option writers make the most money when there is no volatility in the underlying security
Mar 30 12:41:00 <tiberiusiv>	thestrin1puller: um btc has a history of extreme vol.
Mar 30 12:41:02 <thestrin1puller>	so overtime MPOE will be profitable to bondholers
Mar 30 12:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.41499998 = 1.245 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:41:12 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 30 12:41:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00337335 / 0.00368422 / 0.0039999 (14099 shares, 51.94 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00338624 / 0.0045 (675573 shares, 2,287.66 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00449093 / 0.00637777 (1675373 shares, 7,524.00 BTC)
Mar 30 12:41:29 <tiberiusiv>	thestrin1puller: doubtful. mpoe may not be around if it takes anymore losses like that
Mar 30 12:41:38 <jurov>	thestrin1puller: he knows everything, no need to explain anything to him. and ofc, thars NO LIQUIDITY
Mar 30 12:41:47 <tiberiusiv>	mircea only has a limited ammount of BTC and that hit took alot of his btc away
Mar 30 12:41:48 <jurov>	NO POK
Mar 30 12:41:59 <tiberiusiv>	you think he can handle 1-2months more of that lol
Mar 30 12:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	at all ?!
Mar 30 12:42:23 <thestrin1puller>	Not sure if tiberiusiv is serious, or just trolling.
Mar 30 12:42:30 <tiberiusiv>	i am serious do the math
Mar 30 12:42:45 <tiberiusiv>	he took a 15k btc loss for the month, how many reserves do you think he really  has?
Mar 30 12:42:55 <thestrin1puller>	Up until this month MPOE bonds were profitable long term (all profits + all losses > 0)
Mar 30 12:43:06 <tiberiusiv>	yes and now theyve given it all back.
Mar 30 12:43:12 <tiberiusiv>	because BTC didnt move for months.
Mar 30 12:43:27 <jurov>	tiberiusiv: ofc, if mp goes out of money he stops sellin options. happened before already
Mar 30 12:43:29 <tiberiusiv>	the bonds are at losses thestrin1puller.
Mar 30 12:43:44 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: yep and the credibility of his exchange plummets when that occurs.
Mar 30 12:43:52 <thestrin1puller>	I know they are, this month they are, just like an insurance company loses money during a natural disaster...
Mar 30 12:43:57 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: hence my arguement yesterday on liquidity. which you still dont understand
Mar 30 12:44:14 <tiberiusiv>	thestrin1puller: insurance companies have risk hedging, mircea has none.
Mar 30 12:44:26 <jurov>	tiberiusiv: those who profited by buying calls see the credibility soar :)
Mar 30 12:44:39 <tiberiusiv>	nope because in the future they may  not get paid out
Mar 30 12:44:45 <thestrin1puller>	insurance companies also have reserves they invest to hedge that risk...
Mar 30 12:44:48 <tiberiusiv>	when mircea has no funds and no quick way to raise them
Mar 30 12:45:03 <thestrin1puller>	that's not up to mircea_popescu it's up to his bondholders
Mar 30 12:45:05 <tiberiusiv>	insurance companies have large diversified income streams, mircea income is low.
Mar 30 12:45:06 <thestrin1puller>	i feel like you aren't listening
Mar 30 12:45:16 <tiberiusiv>	HE is 80% of the bondholders.
Mar 30 12:45:20 <thestrin1puller>	insurance companies make losses all the time...
Mar 30 12:45:24 <tiberiusiv>	what cant you understand?
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Mar 30 12:45:51 <tiberiusiv>	thesrin1puller: theres never been an insurance company that survived underwriting financial instruments.
Mar 30 12:46:14 <benkay>	that's an expansive claim.
Mar 30 12:46:29 <thestrin1puller>	this is where he lists of AIG among others
Mar 30 12:46:29 <tiberiusiv>	last one was AIG and lehman
Mar 30 12:46:34 <thestrin1puller>	BOOYA
Mar 30 12:46:38 <thestrin1puller>	I'm so predictive
Mar 30 12:46:45 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is the majority of the bondholders
Mar 30 12:46:51 <thestrin1puller>	no he's not
Mar 30 12:46:55 <thestrin1puller>	you keep saying that like it's fact
Mar 30 12:46:58 <tiberiusiv>	yea he is look at his sheet
Mar 30 12:46:59 <thestrin1puller>	this is one exception!
Mar 30 12:47:05 <thestrin1puller>	1 month != all months
Mar 30 12:47:09 <tiberiusiv>	his income is low
Mar 30 12:47:17 <benkay>	what sheet, tiberiusiv?
Mar 30 12:47:18 <thestrin1puller>	That made me LOL
Mar 30 12:47:19 <tiberiusiv>	mpex + bbet income is like 300 btc a month
Mar 30 12:47:31 <tiberiusiv>	his loss was 15k in a single event.
Mar 30 12:47:49 <tiberiusiv>	he wont be able to take anymore hits like that
Mar 30 12:47:58 <jurov>	tiberiusiv: there's mircea's private activities like MPHF
Mar 30 12:48:12 <bitesak>	mphf?
Mar 30 12:48:21 <jurov>	= shorting GLBSEsque assets
Mar 30 12:48:27 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: it takes him awhile to earn 15k btc.
Mar 30 12:48:37 <tiberiusiv>	and it will be even harder now
Mar 30 12:48:44 <tiberiusiv>	with BTC deflation
Mar 30 12:48:47 <thestrin1puller>	tiberiusiv: why are you making claims with out evidence
Mar 30 12:48:55 <tiberiusiv>	dude what evidence?
Mar 30 12:49:00 <tiberiusiv>	his income is public knowledge
Mar 30 12:49:04 <tiberiusiv>	and so are his bond holdings
Mar 30 12:49:09 <tiberiusiv>	how many BTCs do you think he has??
Mar 30 12:49:23 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: are ALL your financials public knowledge? lets clear this up
Mar 30 12:49:33 <tiberiusiv>	his bitcoin ones are
Mar 30 12:49:48 <tiberiusiv>	that loss was HUGE. $3mil
Mar 30 12:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller no. i paid twennyfive dollars for a girls pair of stockings out of pocket yesterday.
Mar 30 12:49:58 <tiberiusiv>	remember pirate did 5mil in 6months, mircea did 3mil in 30days
Mar 30 12:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean "all your financials" ?!
Mar 30 12:50:29 <KRS1>	lol
Mar 30 12:50:53 <benkay>	one could ask
Mar 30 12:50:56 <benkay>	hey mircea
Mar 30 12:51:10 <benkay>	how many months of 15k losses can MPEx/Mircea Popescu sustain?
Mar 30 12:51:10 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: it seems tiberiusiv knows your financials because they are all public
Mar 30 12:51:19 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 30 12:51:27 <jurov>	thestrin1puller i told ya, he knows everything
Mar 30 12:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	do you mean polimedia srl ?
Mar 30 12:51:55 <benkay>	i suppose. does polimedia srl's corporate structure provide for funding MPEx?
Mar 30 12:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Mar 30 12:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	it's a romanian-based llc (srl in romanian) that i own ~99% of
Mar 30 12:52:29 <benkay>	then, how many months of 15kbtc losses can the exchange sustain?
Mar 30 12:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	at least a year.
Mar 30 12:53:01 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu you make a bunch of people rich this month, and people still complain...
Mar 30 12:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller ya well, the thing is this : mpoe and mpex are VERY complex, well thought out intricately designed gems.
Mar 30 12:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	"people" have been busily ignoring it for the past year or two
Mar 30 12:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile it's been taking over.
Mar 30 12:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	now "people" are confronted with the rude awakening of reality. kinda bound to be a little thrashing about.
Mar 30 12:54:00 <thestrin1puller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 30 12:54:00 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 30 12:54:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.792 = 3.168 BTC [+]
Mar 30 12:54:11 <thestrin1puller>	;;ticker
Mar 30 12:54:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.49001, Best ask: 90.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 90.50000, 24 hour volume: 51005.98011536, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 94.98000, 24 hour vwap: 90.64316
Mar 30 12:54:26 <bitesak>	Roumania is taking Europe over__
Mar 30 12:54:32 <benkay>	ooh. what's the difference between MPOE and MPEx?
Mar 30 12:54:46 <jurov>	MPOE is the options trades, MPEx is the exchange
Mar 30 12:54:51 <thestrin1puller>	Hmm. mircea_popescu could one externally hedge risks of being a bondholder with other investments no?
Mar 30 12:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 7 @ 1.198 = 8.386 BTC [-]
Mar 30 12:55:09 <jurov>	thestrin1puller hedge them by buying options :D
Mar 30 12:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller like how ?
Mar 30 12:55:47 <tiberiusiv>	lol atleast a year.
Mar 30 12:55:54 <tiberiusiv>	mircea you are so full of shit you dont have 200k BTC
Mar 30 12:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	bitesak lol considering the state of finances everywhere in europe vs romania... that's not quite so far off.
Mar 30 12:56:17 <tiberiusiv>	thestrinpuller: no you cant hedge being a bondholder.
Mar 30 12:56:19 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: for instance I put x BTC in Bonds during a bad month, but some other investment say, S.DICE growth, effectively neutralizes my bond losses
Mar 30 12:56:28 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, but these aren't related
Mar 30 12:56:34 <tiberiusiv>	mircea's only hedge is bitcoin income he derives on other btc business
Mar 30 12:56:39 <thestrin1puller>	i know but I'm saying diversification is one solution no?
Mar 30 12:56:40 <tiberiusiv>	but its low in comparison to potential losses.
Mar 30 12:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	to hedge you would need things which for good reason move in opposing directions.
Mar 30 12:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	diversification certainly is a solution, yes.
Mar 30 12:56:50 <tiberiusiv>	theres nothing to diversify in.
Mar 30 12:56:53 <jurov>	thestrin1puller: BTC growth itself effectively neutralized your bond losses, don't forget
Mar 30 12:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	if you have 105 btc and put 100 btc into mpoe bonds expect a wild ride.
Mar 30 12:57:05 <tiberiusiv>	no it didnt jurov
Mar 30 12:57:10 <tiberiusiv>	he still LOST 30%.
Mar 30 12:57:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov that is a point, in fiat terms the bondholders made money :D
Mar 30 12:57:33 <tiberiusiv>	yes 30% less then they otehrwise would have
Mar 30 12:57:38 <tiberiusiv>	holding BTC outright.
Mar 30 12:57:42 <tiberiusiv>	the loss is still there
Mar 30 12:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	actually... this is interesting. from a purely fiat perspective mpoe bonds may be one of the best btc-investments you can make.
Mar 30 12:58:01 <thestrin1puller>	unless you have an august month
Mar 30 12:58:03 <bitesak>	I have been saying that for sometime in Switzerland :)
Mar 30 12:58:04 <thestrin1puller>	That was just...
Mar 30 12:58:13 <thestrin1puller>	August was terrible
Mar 30 12:58:19 <tiberiusiv>	rofl mircea
Mar 30 12:59:13 <tiberiusiv>	thetrin1puller: you dont understand mpoe bond holders are effectively risking the otherside of the trade. you are betting against volatility
Mar 30 12:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 30 12:59:39 <tiberiusiv>	SDICE offers a better risk-reward then betting against bitcoin volatility.
Mar 30 13:00:15 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, you forget there's someone who actually sees your portfolio and call you on your BS
Mar 30 13:00:17 <tiberiusiv>	mpoe bondholders make money if the price of bitcoin barely moves
Mar 30 13:00:34 <tiberiusiv>	jurov: i dont own mpoe
Mar 30 13:00:46 <tiberiusiv>	bitbet at least as growth potential
Mar 30 13:01:17 <jurov>	and sdice?
Mar 30 13:01:37 <tiberiusiv>	sdice is a MUCH better risk/reward then mpoe
Mar 30 13:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller thinking more about your question : it would seem to me there is some relation here:
Mar 30 13:02:09 <tiberiusiv>	the only way mircea buffers his loss reserves is through selling more shares.
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Mar 30 13:02:21 <tiberiusiv>	or bonds
Mar 30 13:02:22 <mircea_popescu>	MPOE bonds make money on calm fx market, lose money on volatility.
Mar 30 13:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	places like mtgox make money on volatility
Mar 30 13:03:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.0039999 = 6.9998 BTC [+]
Mar 30 13:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	so maybe the best play is a weighted binary portofolio, bonds and mtgox shares
Mar 30 13:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	it's moot practically as they're not listed, but since we're discussing theory.
Mar 30 13:03:26 <jurov>	and options
Mar 30 13:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yeah, you could be trading options too
Mar 30 13:03:51 <taub>	mtgox makes money on volume, not volatility
Mar 30 13:03:52 <tiberiusiv>	betting against volatility on bitcoin is insane.
Mar 30 13:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	taub those'd be related tho
Mar 30 13:04:18 <taub>	they dont have to
Mar 30 13:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	also true
Mar 30 13:04:44 <jurov>	tiberiusiv, i actually did it once when everyone was like "half reward is coming, brace ur"
Mar 30 13:04:57 <tiberiusiv>	mircea has proven he has *0* clue on risk management
Mar 30 13:04:57 <jurov>	i did a split, sold both puts and calls
Mar 30 13:05:01 <tiberiusiv>	with the losses posted
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Mar 30 13:05:08 <jurov>	and indeed nothing happened then
Mar 30 13:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 30 13:05:12 <tiberiusiv>	$3mil loss
Mar 30 13:05:21 <jurov>	but won't dare to repeat it
Mar 30 13:05:23 <tiberiusiv>	hes right next to pirate at this point
Mar 30 13:05:31 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, obv you should be hedging using litecoin
Mar 30 13:05:33 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Mar 30 13:05:35 <taub>	who was pirate
Mar 30 13:05:37 <mircea_popescu>	i guess btc is still very much a contrarian market. whatever the public consensus is, it's prolly wrong.
Mar 30 13:05:47 <tiberiusiv>	all markets are contrarian markets
Mar 30 13:05:50 <tiberiusiv>	ive said that here from day 1
Mar 30 13:05:55 <mircea_popescu>	taub http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/
Mar 30 13:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	good start point for the history of btc financials.
Mar 30 13:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	(not implying pirate was such a thing)
Mar 30 13:07:13 <mircea_popescu>	hey, who here was from slovenia ?
Mar 30 13:07:27 <jurov>	that kakobrekla fella
Mar 30 13:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla what's it like there ? i can't make sense of all the bs i'm reading.
Mar 30 13:08:04 <kakobrekla>	about what
Mar 30 13:08:31 <jurov>	about impending doom
Mar 30 13:08:45 <kakobrekla>	fyi italy is in yurop and you worry bout slovenia?
Mar 30 13:08:55 <jurov>	slovenia to sunk into adriatic, austrians want some coastline :D
Mar 30 13:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	is maribor going under ?
Mar 30 13:09:17 <kakobrekla>	i dont think so
Mar 30 13:10:02 <thestrin1puller>	S.DICE should be skyrocketing
Mar 30 13:10:09 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 30 13:10:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00337335 / 0.00371908 / 0.0039999 (15849 shares, 58.94 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00338783 / 0.0045 (677323 shares, 2,294.66 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00449042 / 0.00637777 (1677123 shares, 7,531.00 BTC)
Mar 30 13:10:26 <kakobrekla>	why again?
Mar 30 13:10:43 <thestrin1puller>	Based on the rise in PT prices
Mar 30 13:10:56 <thestrin1puller>	the original source is still a few % lower than PT price
Mar 30 13:10:56 <ThickAsThieves>	temporal
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Mar 30 13:13:48 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: it seems you win again ;) I would say, all and all for a month that is a beating, you have come out relatively unscathed...
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Mar 30 13:14:03 <ThickAsThieves>	fail spam
Mar 30 13:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol wtf is with people.
Mar 30 13:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	why can't he participate in the chan like normal human beings.
Mar 30 13:15:07 <jurov>	what are headecks?
Mar 30 13:15:48 <jurov>	something like tinfoil hats, just for stupidity?
Mar 30 13:16:30 <ThickAsThieves>	landing pads for space cadets
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Mar 30 13:17:38 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1705462#msg1705462
Mar 30 13:17:54 <ThickAsThieves>	hints of hints of news
Mar 30 13:18:54 <jurov>	his previous post is also interesting
Mar 30 13:19:05 <jurov>	not US resident anymore
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Mar 30 13:19:25 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Mar 30 13:19:38 <ThickAsThieves>	although i think that has been a rumour for a bit
Mar 30 13:23:16 <KRS1>	<tiberiusiv> and it will be even harder now
Mar 30 13:23:16 <KRS1>	<tiberiusiv> with BTC deflation
Mar 30 13:23:26 <KRS1>	I thought BTC wont go through deflation period until almost mined up
Mar 30 13:23:43 <KRS1>	maybe i dont understand the context..but..
Mar 30 13:23:54 <tiberiusiv>	its going through a deflation period now.
Mar 30 13:24:29 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin rising = deflation
Mar 30 13:24:45 <KRS1>	from what I understand about economics, like inflation deflation is not necessarily good
Mar 30 13:24:47 <tiberiusiv>	fiat is in a state of hyperinflation in bitcoin at the moment
Mar 30 13:25:05 <tiberiusiv>	KRS1: it has no impact on bitcoin economy to be honest
Mar 30 13:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/options-and-leverage-a-case-study/
Mar 30 13:25:19 <tiberiusiv>	KRS1: total bitcoin denominated debts are very low or none existant
Mar 30 13:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	just calculated the implicit leverage for march.
Mar 30 13:25:27 <mircea_popescu>	5.02x
Mar 30 13:25:44 <tiberiusiv>	mircea calcualte you being bankrupt by the summer instead.
Mar 30 13:25:47 <KRS1>	so this is a good case of deflation
Mar 30 13:26:02 <tiberiusiv>	KRS1: for holdings of btc YES, for those that OWE BTC no.
Mar 30 13:26:08 <KRS1>	ok
Mar 30 13:26:12 <ThickAsThieves>	alternative idea for channel bannings: offer ignore bounties, pay .001 to anyone that ignored the desired person, if you are caught responding to that troll you pay .1 penalty, profits go to assbot dev
Mar 30 13:26:13 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 bitcoin inflation is about 8% pa atm
Mar 30 13:26:21 <ThickAsThieves>	sorta like a swear jar?
Mar 30 13:26:32 <KRS1>	How do you get that figure mircea popescu
Mar 30 13:26:41 <tiberiusiv>	total bitcoins mined
Mar 30 13:26:53 <tiberiusiv>	the money supply is expanding by 8% KRS1
Mar 30 13:27:01 <KRS1>	thats low as far as im understanding it and not bad either
Mar 30 13:27:03 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 25 btc x 6 blocks x 24 hours in a day
Mar 30 13:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	compare to the total btc in circulation
Mar 30 13:27:16 <KRS1>	ic
Mar 30 13:27:28 <mircea_popescu>	annualize somehow
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Mar 30 13:27:30 <KRS1>	these are all good indicators i think
Mar 30 13:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	(the exact way is left as an exercise to the user, seeing how depending on how you do it you get diff results)
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Mar 30 13:29:04 <KRS1>	ok thank you guys-
Mar 30 13:36:44 <jurov>	CoinBr.MPBPT-O paid out, 0.07679501 BTC per share (nominal value 0.1 BTC)
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Mar 30 13:45:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.795 = 1.59 BTC [+]
Mar 30 13:45:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7999 = 3.1996 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 13:49:15 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 30 13:49:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.80001, Best ask: 90.98999, Bid-ask spread: 0.18998, Last trade: 90.98999, 24 hour volume: 49893.62640319, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 94.98000, 24 hour vwap: 90.70184
Mar 30 13:51:38 <Diablo-D3>	still not 100
Mar 30 13:52:47 <toffoo>	prolly not going to be over easter holiday weekend
Mar 30 13:53:19 <toffoo>	gotta wait for the snail banks to open again to get more fresh buying funds into the market
Mar 30 13:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	that's a point
Mar 30 13:55:02 <ThickAsThieves>	surpised it's not moving down really
Mar 30 13:55:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 85
Mar 30 13:55:11 <gribble>	There are currently 16264.821 bitcoins demanded at or over 85.0 USD, worth 1422076.42737 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0064 seconds
Mar 30 13:55:13 <toffoo>	looks like maybe litecoin is the one that's rockin to new highs these days
Mar 30 13:55:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 88
Mar 30 13:55:17 <gribble>	There are currently 6698.9219 bitcoins demanded at or over 88.0 USD, worth 596157.374234 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.3952 seconds
Mar 30 13:55:32 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 96
Mar 30 13:55:33 <gribble>	There are currently 11822.091 bitcoins offered at or under 96.0 USD, worth 1113104.50621 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.2181 seconds
Mar 30 13:55:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 93
Mar 30 13:55:45 <gribble>	There are currently 3311.6116 bitcoins offered at or under 93.0 USD, worth 306592.030934 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.4255 seconds
Mar 30 13:55:53 <ThickAsThieves>	heh
Mar 30 13:56:11 <toffoo>	maybe litecoin will cross $1 before bitcoin crosses $100
Mar 30 13:56:32 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe
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Mar 30 14:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	i fail to grok how litecoin can be worth 1
Mar 30 14:03:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 971 @ 0.00067327 = 0.6537 BTC [-]
Mar 30 14:03:31 <toffoo>	well it's worth $0.81 right now ...
Mar 30 14:03:55 <toffoo>	i'd managed to ignore it all all other *coins until now,
Mar 30 14:04:08 <toffoo>	but this month it has gotten my attention
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Mar 30 14:05:57 <ThickAsThieves>	all in all I'd have been better off not dabbling in LTC at all, other than that it introduced me to Deprived, who's pretty interesting
Mar 30 14:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.94999999 BTC [+]
Mar 30 14:06:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.97999999 = 3.96 BTC [+]
Mar 30 14:06:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.98 BTC [+]
Mar 30 14:06:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99999999 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 14:06:21 <thestrin1puller>	OH SNAP HIM
Mar 30 14:06:24 <thestrin1puller>	I KNEW IT
Mar 30 14:06:25 <kakobrekla>	ThickAsThieves why would you be better off
Mar 30 14:06:25 <thestrin1puller>	MWAHAHAHAHA
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Mar 30 14:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	i bought some on like the 5th
Mar 30 14:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	but then sold it off. apparently i sold too soon
Mar 30 14:07:27 <mircea_popescu>	but srsly wtf.
Mar 30 14:07:37 <kakobrekla>	yeah i played the game too
Mar 30 14:07:47 <kakobrekla>	made 100% in 3 days or so and never looked back
Mar 30 14:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. something of the sort.
Mar 30 14:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	but i certainly didn't get out at the top. wtf lol
Mar 30 14:08:12 <toffoo>	well, my investment thesis is something like the following:
Mar 30 14:08:31 <kakobrekla>	i was riding 0.07 to 0.15
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Mar 30 14:08:32 <toffoo>	i've always followed pretty closely the effect of difficulty on bitcoin prices,
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Mar 30 14:08:49 <toffoo>	and now with ASICs moving that to the moon,
Mar 30 14:09:03 <taub>	hah
Mar 30 14:09:09 <toffoo>	the feeling is that a lot of the GPU mining farms will drop out and start mining litecoin,
Mar 30 14:09:16 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo so ?
Mar 30 14:09:24 <toffoo>	which will cause it's difficulty to start rising,
Mar 30 14:09:24 <kakobrekla>	it still is useless
Mar 30 14:09:27 <toffoo>	which it has,
Mar 30 14:09:41 <toffoo>	and therefore market prices are following
Mar 30 14:09:47 <kakobrekla>	well you can invest in eskimo bobs ART and thats about it
Mar 30 14:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	hum
Mar 30 14:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla o totally forgot. how's the clay business i wonder
Mar 30 14:10:18 <kakobrekla>	hes gonna be klin millioanare
Mar 30 14:10:19 <toffoo>	try to find a chart of litecoin difficulty the past few weeks
Mar 30 14:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	you mean klim ?
Mar 30 14:10:41 <ThickAsThieves>	basically, i started to learn the price manipulation patterns in BTC-e for LTC,
Mar 30 14:10:45 <ThickAsThieves>	and joined them
Mar 30 14:10:47 <ThickAsThieves>	did fine
Mar 30 14:11:02 <ThickAsThieves>	then BTC blew up a bajillion % higher
Mar 30 14:11:09 <ThickAsThieves>	and i was holding the bag
Mar 30 14:11:13 <mircea_popescu>	aww
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Mar 30 14:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	i'd kinda short ltc at 1 dollar each
Mar 30 14:11:40 <ThickAsThieves>	about a 12btc haircut for me that day
Mar 30 14:11:41 <kakobrekla>	i ment kiln
Mar 30 14:11:58 <kakobrekla>	for pottery?
Mar 30 14:12:01 <kakobrekla>	nvm
Mar 30 14:12:05 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Mar 30 14:12:08 <ThickAsThieves>	but i covered a bit by sniping underpriced assets at ltcglobal
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Mar 30 14:12:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i even got props from Deprived for a couple of my moves :)
Mar 30 14:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	haha cool
Mar 30 14:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 430 @ 0.003512 = 1.5102 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 14:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	you know in retrospect... that s.dice ipo price was judicious
Mar 30 14:13:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00066871 = 2.0061 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 14:15:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 36 @ 0.005455 = 0.1964 BTC [+]
Mar 30 14:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?!
Mar 30 14:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc s.dice-pt
Mar 30 14:16:53 <assbot>	[BTCT:S.DICE-PT] 1D: 0.00459 / 0.00521 / 0.005455 (81 shares, 0.4 BTC),  7D: 0.00366 / 0.00452 / 0.0055 (4499 shares, 20.3 BTC), 30D: 0.00361 / 0.00525 / 0.00643 (30048 shares, 157.8 BTC)
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Mar 30 14:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	there's a 70% gap ?!
Mar 30 14:19:08 <jurov>	but whole order book is 13btc bids, 18btc asks... not worth bugging deadterra about
Mar 30 14:19:41 <ThickAsThieves>	thats Nam's
Mar 30 14:19:44 <ThickAsThieves>	not DT's
Mar 30 14:19:48 <ThickAsThieves>	oh
Mar 30 14:19:53 <ThickAsThieves>	nvm
Mar 30 14:20:03 <ThickAsThieves>	you meant to arb
Mar 30 14:20:29 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Mar 30 14:20:30 <jurov>	haha i see now... and GSDPT is copletely elsewhere
Mar 30 14:20:36 <mircea_popescu>	70% of 13 btc is like 100 bux lol
Mar 30 14:20:53 <jurov>	the same exchange, yet one would need to engage two ops to arbitrage
Mar 30 14:20:54 <mircea_popescu>	1000
Mar 30 14:21:05 <jurov>	why they just can't list one pt together
Mar 30 14:21:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i like multiple
Mar 30 14:21:17 <jurov>	why?
Mar 30 14:21:21 <jurov>	for lulz?
Mar 30 14:21:27 <mircea_popescu>	somebody should plot the various pt price vs mpex one day
Mar 30 14:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	it'd make one hell of a grap
Mar 30 14:21:34 <ThickAsThieves>	well in the case of Nam's
Mar 30 14:21:40 <ThickAsThieves>	it's not successful enough
Mar 30 14:21:54 <ThickAsThieves>	to provide a lot of arb
Mar 30 14:22:11 <ThickAsThieves>	but in the end there has alway been variance between each PT
Mar 30 14:22:17 <ThickAsThieves>	enough to arb
Mar 30 14:22:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm sold out of Nam's though
Mar 30 14:22:29 <ThickAsThieves>	because it got a premium
Mar 30 14:22:34 <ThickAsThieves>	from low uptake
Mar 30 14:22:46 <ThickAsThieves>	now not enough people in it
Mar 30 14:23:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2239 @ 0.00066871 = 1.4972 BTC [-]
Mar 30 14:23:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4122 @ 0.00066869 = 2.7563 BTC [-]
Mar 30 14:23:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 239 @ 0.00066868 = 0.1598 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 14:34:03 <fdas>	toffoo, I have reasoned the same about LTC
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Mar 30 14:36:10 <thestrin1puller>	http://bitcoinity.org/assets/fail.jpg YES!
Mar 30 14:41:17 <tiberiusiv>	mircea has still not answered how he intends on staying solvent with mpoe.
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Mar 30 14:41:37 <tiberiusiv>	with the current losses it means he cant have as much exposure next month = less trading activity.
Mar 30 14:42:54 <jurov>	have you looked to past performance? not every month is his exposure needed.
Mar 30 14:43:19 <tiberiusiv>	dude past means nothing. pre rally there was little volatility in BTC.
Mar 30 14:43:24 <tiberiusiv>	in 2012 that is
Mar 30 14:43:40 <tiberiusiv>	every month forward he will have to reduce his exposure meaning less options available
Mar 30 14:43:52 <tiberiusiv>	whats difficult to understand the guy does not have infinite BTC to risk.
Mar 30 14:43:59 <jurov>	and if btc goes up twice again next month, some 20% loss wouldn't be so tragic
Mar 30 14:44:13 <tiberiusiv>	he wont be able to afford to write options
Mar 30 14:44:22 <tiberiusiv>	and sell them thats the point
Mar 30 14:44:31 <tiberiusiv>	meaning customers wont be able to buy.
Mar 30 14:44:32 <jurov>	well. so there will be no options. that is the point.
Mar 30 14:44:43 <jurov>	happened already, no prob
Mar 30 14:44:43 <tiberiusiv>	yes and mpoe bondholders + him will be near insolvent
Mar 30 14:44:48 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Mar 30 14:44:48 <gribble>	There are currently 34833411 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10285047.2026 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.2628 seconds
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Mar 30 14:51:15 <thestrin1puller>	That's more bitcoins than exist...
Mar 30 14:51:17 <thestrin1puller>	LOL
Mar 30 14:51:38 <thestrin1puller>	tiberiusiv: is an irate bondholder!
Mar 30 14:51:48 <thestrin1puller>	pleaes direct all complaints to Bugpowder
Mar 30 14:51:56 <tiberiusiv>	im not a bondholder
Mar 30 14:52:06 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is a clueless idiot who doesnt understand risk management.
Mar 30 14:52:13 <tiberiusiv>	and that was evidenced today by the massive loss.
Mar 30 14:52:14 <thestrin1puller>	and you are?
Mar 30 14:52:20 <tiberiusiv>	that trumped profits by a factor of 100x
Mar 30 14:52:31 <thestrin1puller>	SO MR. tiberiusiv you know everything?
Mar 30 14:52:40 <tiberiusiv>	pretty much
Mar 30 14:52:43 <thestrin1puller>	you know what the Oracle says about men who say they know everything
Mar 30 14:52:57 <tiberiusiv>	bondholders were not properly informed of the massive risks involved
Mar 30 14:53:07 <thestrin1puller>	HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Mar 30 14:53:08 <thestrin1puller>	they are
Mar 30 14:53:09 <PsychoticBoy>	yuuuuuuuup
Mar 30 14:53:10 <tiberiusiv>	mircea did a poor job of explaining that its equivalent to a junk bond
Mar 30 14:53:21 <thestrin1puller>	You don't read enough.
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Mar 30 14:56:46 <tiberiusiv>	if mircea didnt have such a massive ego, he would close down mpex in its present form.
Mar 30 15:00:48 <tiberiusiv>	mpoe i mean
Mar 30 15:01:06 <benkay>	what would your preferred implementation be, tiberiusiv?
Mar 30 15:01:36 <tiberiusiv>	well you need individual participants to write options and post some type of collateral
Mar 30 15:01:46 <tiberiusiv>	not the exchange taking the risk
Mar 30 15:01:48 <tiberiusiv>	thats just insane
Mar 30 15:04:05 <ThickAsThieves>	tib, by selling bonds he's already letting people underwrite the options
Mar 30 15:04:17 <tiberiusiv>	the majority of those bonds are held by him
Mar 30 15:04:32 <tiberiusiv>	and he never outlined the risk profile
Mar 30 15:04:41 <ThickAsThieves>	he's considers it an investment
Mar 30 15:04:42 <tiberiusiv>	if people knew what the possible losses were, they would never have bought them
Mar 30 15:04:45 <ThickAsThieves>	he
Mar 30 15:04:49 <tiberiusiv>	he just tossed them out as a 9% bond.
Mar 30 15:05:27 <tiberiusiv>	mircea doesnt understand that you can make profits writing options for years and then 1 even can be catastrophic
Mar 30 15:05:32 <tiberiusiv>	0 concept of risk management
Mar 30 15:06:07 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: betting against volatility is not an investment. its a gamble.
Mar 30 15:06:12 <tiberiusiv>	use proper terms.
Mar 30 15:06:15 <ThickAsThieves>	you dont think that him losing XXXXX btc is a test of his risk management?
Mar 30 15:06:24 <ThickAsThieves>	he's not betting
Mar 30 15:06:31 <tiberiusiv>	nope its a test of his capital position
Mar 30 15:06:36 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe he's trying to create a market
Mar 30 15:06:49 <ThickAsThieves>	of a new order of magnitude in size
Mar 30 15:06:53 <tiberiusiv>	only thing about him that is positive is he had the integrity to pay up
Mar 30 15:06:57 <tiberiusiv>	so ill admit to that
Mar 30 15:07:29 <ThickAsThieves>	he spends 15k today, maybe makes 150k next year
Mar 30 15:07:40 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves you dont get it do you? as his capital position worsens he cant write as many options
Mar 30 15:07:45 <tiberiusiv>	they need to be covered when he sells them
Mar 30 15:07:58 <tiberiusiv>	more losses for him mean smaller market in the future
Mar 30 15:08:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm done, you can beat on him all you want
Mar 30 15:08:15 <tiberiusiv>	his other btc ventures dont earn enough profit to cover 15k in losses.
Mar 30 15:09:13 <ThickAsThieves>	he has plenty
Mar 30 15:09:22 <ThickAsThieves>	to risk this investment
Mar 30 15:12:28 <tiberiusiv>	no he doesnt.
Mar 30 15:12:33 <tiberiusiv>	keep thinking that
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Mar 30 15:13:05 <tiberiusiv>	if he had 50million in coins he wouldnt care about running shit
Mar 30 15:13:37 <tiberiusiv>	people have a fiat mindset from using fiat so long
Mar 30 15:13:46 <tiberiusiv>	they dont get it if you make mistakes in BTC you get cleaned.
Mar 30 15:13:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00066868 = 11.6685 BTC [-]
Mar 30 15:14:13 <ThickAsThieves>	sry tib, gotta turn you off for a while
Mar 30 15:14:26 <tiberiusiv>	np
Mar 30 15:14:31 <tiberiusiv>	truth is hard to believe
Mar 30 15:17:36 <jurov>	lol that's just some assertions, not truth
Mar 30 15:23:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00323 BTC [-]
Mar 30 15:23:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 282 @ 0.00323 = 0.9109 BTC [-]
Mar 30 15:24:44 <tiberiusiv>	writing options is the equivalent of picking up pennies infront of a oncoming train
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Mar 30 15:28:46 <jurov>	obv if you come to btc in a "i know shit" fashion you'll get burned
Mar 30 15:29:30 <jurov>	i started trying options only after few months observations, went off well enough so far
Mar 30 15:30:17 <tiberiusiv>	dude you are not taking blind risk
Mar 30 15:30:19 <tiberiusiv>	like mircea is
Mar 30 15:30:33 <tiberiusiv>	his bot is taking the other side of the trade
Mar 30 15:30:49 <tiberiusiv>	when you buyoptions from mpex its from mircea selling them
Mar 30 15:30:54 <jurov>	no, you're not payng attention, i do. with iDiffs.
Mar 30 15:31:12 <jurov>	adn i do write mpoe options occassionally, too
Mar 30 15:31:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067326 = 3.3663 BTC [+]
Mar 30 15:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11529 @ 0.00067327 = 7.7621 BTC [+]
Mar 30 15:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 543 @ 0.00067469 = 0.3664 BTC [+]
Mar 30 15:31:29 <tiberiusiv>	i mean whats there to discuss here
Mar 30 15:31:33 <tiberiusiv>	the losses speak for themselves lol
Mar 30 15:31:38 <Diablo-D3>	wtf is ThickAsThieves even talking about
Mar 30 15:33:01 <jurov>	Diablo-D3: perhaps you ignore tibby?
Mar 30 15:33:19 <Diablo-D3>	I do
Mar 30 15:33:21 <Diablo-D3>	the guy is a nutjob
Mar 30 15:33:43 <jurov>	so, thick was chatting with him
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Mar 30 15:35:26 <tiberiusiv>	mircea has lost in 1month  probably more bitcoins then 95% of this channel hold combined.
Mar 30 15:35:40 <tiberiusiv>	thats the facts speaking
Mar 30 15:35:48 <jurov>	sauce?
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Mar 30 15:37:00 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Mar 30 15:37:09 <kakobrekla>	the sad part is he made more than 95% too
Mar 30 15:37:22 <jurov>	just coinbr-managed holdings are way more than whatever you're insinuating here.
Mar 30 15:37:52 <jurov>	and i have no illusion that even all users combined it's one of smaller players here
Mar 30 15:38:24 <jurov>	*all coinbr users together i mean
Mar 30 15:39:35 <ThickAsThieves>	sry diablo, i got sucked into th vortex, tib is back on ignore now
Mar 30 15:39:57 <Diablo-D3>	what is he doing anyhow?
Mar 30 15:39:59 <jurov>	sorry tibby, my insanity threshold is clearly lower than average, but you just crossed it
Mar 30 15:40:08 <jurov>	<tiberiusiv> mircea has lost in 1month  probably more bitcoins then 95% of this channel hold combined.
Mar 30 15:40:24 <Diablo-D3>	mircea doesnt have more than 1000 BTC so clearly false
Mar 30 15:40:36 <kakobrekla>	lol
Mar 30 15:40:45 <ThickAsThieves>	he lost it all on ltc
Mar 30 15:40:51 <jurov>	ignored.
Mar 30 15:41:06 <ThickAsThieves>	yuss
Mar 30 15:41:19 <tiberiusiv>	kakobrekla: lol "made" mirceas losses are greater then probably all profits hes made combined.
Mar 30 15:41:41 <kakobrekla>	right.
Mar 30 15:41:48 <tiberiusiv>	mpex would take 5 years just to make back
Mar 30 15:41:51 <tiberiusiv>	what he lost in 30days.
Mar 30 15:42:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00066869 = 2.307 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 15:42:24 <tiberiusiv>	and the most  disturbing part, with his extreme ego hes made no risk changes going forward
Mar 30 15:42:30 <tiberiusiv>	so next month we could see another bath
Mar 30 15:42:38 <thestrin1puller>	tiberiusiv: keep talking you're making the stock shortable
Mar 30 15:42:58 <tiberiusiv>	the question is how many btc will mircea be willing to bleed before he calls it quits?
Mar 30 15:43:00 <kakobrekla>	tiberiusiv just make sure you are on the other side of the stick and more welth to you no'
Mar 30 15:43:10 <kakobrekla>	i dunno why you complain
Mar 30 15:43:17 <tiberiusiv>	no because id question the likelyhood of getting paid
Mar 30 15:43:27 <tiberiusiv>	even though i will admit i was surprised he paid out that loss
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Mar 30 15:43:32 <kakobrekla>	stop troling already
Mar 30 15:43:37 <kakobrekla>	for srs
Mar 30 15:43:49 <kakobrekla>	its good for nothing
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Mar 30 15:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1574 @ 0.00066869 = 1.0525 BTC [-]
Mar 30 15:47:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14726 @ 0.00066868 = 9.847 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 16:05:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 200 @ 0.05079251 = 10.1585 BTC
Mar 30 16:07:51 <jurov>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bbgtr/this_is_how_serious_business_is_done_27k_loss/
Mar 30 16:08:00 <jurov>	^^ let's see what will happen
Mar 30 16:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	ima add 1mn btc buttons to mpex.
Mar 30 16:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol jurov where did you find that "fu" pic of mine
Mar 30 16:09:12 <jurov>	lmao reddit found it itself
Mar 30 16:10:02 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... "smug. let me show you how it's done"
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Mar 30 16:12:39 <arij>	is there a guide for options trading
Mar 30 16:12:41 <tiberiusiv>	thats how you go bankrupt should be the title
Mar 30 16:12:45 <arij>	seems so confusing :/
Mar 30 16:12:52 <tiberiusiv>	and aweful risk management by poorly informed individuals
Mar 30 16:13:11 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.0
Mar 30 16:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	arij http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/options-and-leverage-a-case-study/
Mar 30 16:13:20 <arij>	thank you
Mar 30 16:13:22 <tiberiusiv>	sell insurance against bitcoin price movement.
Mar 30 16:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	click on the first link nm
Mar 30 16:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	jurov is too fast
Mar 30 16:13:27 <tiberiusiv>	sure way towards bankruptcy
Mar 30 16:13:29 <arij>	heh
Mar 30 16:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	heh i wonder where draco isd
Mar 30 16:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen draco49
Mar 30 16:13:54 <gribble>	I have not seen draco49.
Mar 30 16:14:08 <jurov>	but the linked page from that thread is missing... since it's referenced much, maybe MPOE-PR can update it
Mar 30 16:14:11 <thestrin1puller>	mircea still owes me trilema credits :(
Mar 30 16:14:18 <jurov>	using MKOPT/SPLIT instead of email
Mar 30 16:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller how so ?
Mar 30 16:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ya thaty's a point.
Mar 30 16:15:22 <mircea_popescu>	old old thread.
Mar 30 16:15:36 <thestrin1puller>	my ip changed a long time ago
Mar 30 16:15:40 <thestrin1puller>	well not too long ago
Mar 30 16:15:47 <thestrin1puller>	And now the paywall hates me
Mar 30 16:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	aww!
Mar 30 16:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	so get pw based credits
Mar 30 16:16:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00408 BTC [+]
Mar 30 16:16:39 <thestrin1puller>	i know I should have
Mar 30 16:16:40 <thestrin1puller>	waaaah
Mar 30 16:16:41 <thestrin1puller>	waaah
Mar 30 16:16:42 <thestrin1puller>	I'm sad
Mar 30 16:16:43 <thestrin1puller>	lol
Mar 30 16:16:48 <thestrin1puller>	it's cool mircea_popescu
Mar 30 16:16:55 <thestrin1puller>	i respect you enough to warrant a loss ;)
Mar 30 16:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.95 = 3.9 BTC [-]
Mar 30 16:17:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1948 @ 0.00409 = 7.9673 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 16:18:37 <thestrin1puller>	Havelock is slowly becoming the berkshire hathaway of btc investments...
Mar 30 16:18:47 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: you should creating a mining bond
Mar 30 16:18:47 <tiberiusiv>	havelock is A+
Mar 30 16:18:52 <thestrin1puller>	(this is where we all laugh)
Mar 30 16:19:14 <tiberiusiv>	the benefit to havelock is its also located in an AAA jurisdiction
Mar 30 16:19:18 <tiberiusiv>	with a functioning legal system
Mar 30 16:19:24 <jurov>	was going to reply "there was one already"
Mar 30 16:19:27 <tiberiusiv>	not the 3rd world
Mar 30 16:20:57 <thestrin1puller>	jurov: that giga etf that went to shit?
Mar 30 16:21:21 <thestrin1puller>	tiberiusiv: Havelock is a savings medium different space than the others
Mar 30 16:21:36 <jurov>	yes, and there was a 1GH or so future.. going quickly down to 1 satoshi
Mar 30 16:21:42 <tiberiusiv>	ive noticed btc liquidity has improved substantially over the last week
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Mar 30 16:22:29 <tiberiusiv>	with mtgox losing marketshare by the month, the odds of a substantial crash decrease
Mar 30 16:22:55 <thestrin1puller>	Man I want to invest in HIM
Mar 30 16:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	thestrin1puller but i never mined
Mar 30 16:23:02 <thestrin1puller>	:)
Mar 30 16:23:20 <thestrin1puller>	^- that is how I know mircea_popescu is legit
Mar 30 16:23:36 <tiberiusiv>	mirceas only redeeming factor was he paid out the huge loss today.
Mar 30 16:23:45 <thestrin1puller>	you mean yesterday
Mar 30 16:23:50 <tiberiusiv>	whenever
Mar 30 16:23:54 <tiberiusiv>	il lgive him that
Mar 30 16:23:54 <thestrin1puller>	also tiberiusiv you know what the oracle says
Mar 30 16:24:07 <thestrin1puller>	shouldn't you know?
Mar 30 16:24:13 <thestrin1puller>	tiberiusiv: what's the next movement going to be
Mar 30 16:24:18 <thestrin1puller>	tiberiusiv: what's the meaning of life?
Mar 30 16:24:22 <tiberiusiv>	i already told you
Mar 30 16:24:25 <thestrin1puller>	tiberiusiv: how do I make more coin back?
Mar 30 16:24:30 <tiberiusiv>	the SP500 will dictate the move
Mar 30 16:24:56 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 30 16:24:57 <gribble>	There are currently 34845084 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10289649.6484 USD in total. | Data vintage: 115.2992 seconds
Mar 30 16:25:03 <tiberiusiv>	basedon the limited datapoints we have, it seems to me the US stockmarket tends to top out before bitcoin does
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Mar 30 16:25:34 <thestrin1puller>	LOL
Mar 30 16:25:44 <thestrin1puller>	Bugpowder is avoiding the angry mobs
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Mar 30 16:26:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C116T] 1 @ 0.1536719 BTC
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Mar 30 16:30:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C116T] 19 @ 0.1536719 = 2.9198 BTC
Mar 30 16:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4999 = 3.4993 BTC [+]
Mar 30 16:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.5 = 2.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 16:40:28 <taub>	I don't think anyone is mad at him?
Mar 30 16:45:19 <KRS1>	cant always win jeez
Mar 30 16:45:34 <KRS1>	if u put out you need to expect to lose too
Mar 30 16:47:37 <KRS1>	can anyone provide advice? I am hearing more about mtgox every day and even though i dont have a lot in there, i'd like to protect what i do have..i dont use redeemable codes..do I have to pull out of gox and go with another?
Mar 30 16:47:58 <KRS1>	i think all the news is around the codes but im not using em
Mar 30 16:48:14 <KRS1>	and they're moving to the canada deal forgot the name..coin something
Mar 30 16:48:40 <KRS1>	prob because of the US regulation now? idk maybe im talking out my ass
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Mar 30 16:54:25 <KRS1>	anyone?
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Mar 30 16:56:41 <jurov>	KRS1 you you use it a wallet, definitely pull out by any means
Mar 30 16:57:07 <jurov>	*if you use it as wallet
Mar 30 16:57:36 <jurov>	and even if you daytrade, i'd recommend preemptively pulling before the coinlab deal goes into effect
Mar 30 16:58:12 <kakobrekla>	ok guise
Mar 30 16:58:20 <kakobrekla>	we now have Sentiment charts
Mar 30 16:58:22 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/
Mar 30 16:58:36 <pizzaman1337>	oh, nice
Mar 30 16:58:46 <kakobrekla>	:)
Mar 30 17:05:30 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 prolly best to look for gox alternatives
Mar 30 17:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool graphs
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Mar 30 17:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bbgtr/this_is_how_serious_business_is_done_27k_loss/c95ddt2
Mar 30 17:34:05 <mircea_popescu>	it just dawned on him
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Mar 30 17:37:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00067465 = 0.877 BTC [+]
Mar 30 17:37:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067466 = 3.3733 BTC [+]
Mar 30 17:37:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00067469 = 5.8698 BTC [+]
Mar 30 17:43:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.78 = 1.56 BTC [-]
Mar 30 17:48:36 <jurov>	so, slovak PM is to show on a trial started by ex-PM
Mar 30 17:48:39 <tiberiusiv>	mircea it dawn on you how stupid you are?
Mar 30 17:48:54 <jurov>	except that police nor anybody else know his address
Mar 30 17:48:57 <jurov>	lmao
Mar 30 17:52:19 <jurov>	bulletproof legal immunity
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Mar 30 17:56:43 <mircea_popescu>	address nullrooted
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Mar 30 17:59:20 <jurov>	oh and also his office is not accepting such mail
Mar 30 18:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	"Warning: BFL has failed to deliver for >7 months. It could be a scam!"
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Mar 30 18:00:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol @forum ppl
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Mar 30 18:05:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [-]
Mar 30 18:05:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.766 = 7.66 BTC [-]
Mar 30 18:05:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.765 = 6.12 BTC [-]
Mar 30 18:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.5 = 3.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 18:16:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 80 @ 0.38 = 30.4 BTC [+]
Mar 30 18:18:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0025 BTC [-]
Mar 30 18:18:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7995 BTC [+]
Mar 30 18:18:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7998 = 7.998 BTC [+]
Mar 30 18:18:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8 = 3.2 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 18:27:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2557 @ 0.00067469 = 1.7252 BTC [+]
Mar 30 18:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2543 @ 0.00067746 = 1.7228 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 18:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.000001 BTC [-]
Mar 30 18:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.000001 BTC [-]
Mar 30 18:41:41 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker H HIM
Mar 30 18:41:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.88000000 / 1.94066666 / 1.99999999 (15 shares, 29.10999996 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.74020155 / 2.00000000 (194 shares, 337.59910099 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.78175586 / 17.25000000 (726 shares, 1293.55475265 BTC)
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Mar 30 18:53:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 16 @ 0.0039999 = 0.064 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 18:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.414 = 4.554 BTC [-]
Mar 30 18:56:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.41499998 = 1.245 BTC [+]
Mar 30 19:09:03 <Gues_____>	!ticker
Mar 30 19:09:04 <assbot>	Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
Mar 30 19:10:50 <KRS1>	many thanks to those in this channel who advised me about the exchange i was with..i have pulled out my money and my coins are now in my own wallet
Mar 30 19:11:56 <assbot>	you are welcome.
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Mar 30 19:16:55 <jurov>	assbot always gives best advice
Mar 30 19:17:36 <jurov>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 30 19:17:37 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  / 85.1711468 / 85.1711468 (126970 shares, 26,734.25 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 30 19:17:52 <jurov>	still only 85?
Mar 30 19:18:18 <thestrin1puller>	jurov: mircea_popescu said it will take a few days to sync up due to the new mpsics
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Mar 30 19:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.43 = 1.29 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 19:22:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2457 @ 0.00067746 = 1.6645 BTC [+]
Mar 30 19:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3356 @ 0.00067753 = 2.2738 BTC [+]
Mar 30 19:22:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00068059 = 4.7641 BTC [+]
Mar 30 19:22:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6403 @ 0.0006806 = 4.3579 BTC [+]
Mar 30 19:23:20 <jurov>	thx thestrin1puller. by my educated guess, it should be way beyond 110
Mar 30 19:24:58 <thestrin1puller>	I hope there isn't a huge sell off
Mar 30 19:25:49 <Gues_____>	stringpuller huge sell off of what?  the cherries company?
Mar 30 19:25:56 <jurov>	crash by ineptitude is much more likely
Mar 30 19:26:25 <jurov>	we haven't one yet
Mar 30 19:26:25 <thestrin1puller>	nah, just an old fashioned bank run
Mar 30 19:26:53 <thestrin1puller>	the miners only need 13-14 / coin to pay off debt
Mar 30 19:26:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00066869 = 0.8693 BTC [-]
Mar 30 19:26:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3104 @ 0.00066868 = 2.0756 BTC [-]
Mar 30 19:27:07 <jurov>	yes but it will be caused by ineptitude initially, instead of someone dumping
Mar 30 19:27:33 <jurov>	^ my prediction (which i don't like at all)
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Mar 30 19:27:45 <jurov>	cuz ineptitude can't be hedged against
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Mar 30 19:28:21 <thestrin1puller>	but what will it crash to?
Mar 30 19:28:25 <thestrin1puller>	that's the real question
Mar 30 19:28:37 <thestrin1puller>	will it be people invested in it at 1000 and it drops to 100
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Mar 30 19:30:34 <jurov>	in any case, value of any well built enterprise will soar. and i hope to be there.
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Mar 30 19:31:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1563 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 19:35:32 <troc_>	[23:30] <Luke-Jr> BFL 0:  45.0C         | 17.83/17.52/14.58Gh/s | A:343 R:0 HW:0 U:180.16/m
Mar 30 19:43:10 <jurov>	troc_: where is it form?
Mar 30 19:43:42 <troc_>	#bitcoin reposted by luke-jr from a post to bitcoin talk
Mar 30 19:43:53 <troc_>	I think it implies the bfl chip hashses no ?
Mar 30 19:44:23 <troc_>	http://bitcointroll.org/index.php?topic=78192.msg1707177#msg1707177
Mar 30 19:44:44 <troc_>	is the source, I thought it was his own system, before he posted the link.
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Mar 30 19:49:53 <jurov>	okay, i'll believe once CoinBr.iDiff-O sales start picking up. maybe.
Mar 30 19:52:33 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 30 19:52:35 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 228838 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 985 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7387042.88845 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.3231
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Mar 30 20:09:51 <KRS1>	;;bids 0
Mar 30 20:09:53 <gribble>	There are currently 34843224 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10134084.4122 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0171 seconds
Mar 30 20:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.549999 BTC [+]
Mar 30 20:11:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7871 @ 0.00066868 = 5.2632 BTC [-]
Mar 30 20:11:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 734 @ 0.00066868 = 0.4908 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 20:34:25 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker h HIM
Mar 30 20:34:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.88000000 / 1.9476923 / 1.99999999 (13 shares, 25.31999996 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.73749532 / 2.00000000 (192 shares, 333.59910099 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.76042035 / 2.00000000 (725 shares, 1276.30475265 BTC)
Mar 30 20:34:30 <thestrin1puller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 30 20:34:31 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 hours, 28 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <smickles> oh, it just changed
Mar 30 20:34:50 <thestrin1puller>	;;asks 1000
Mar 30 20:34:51 <gribble>	There are currently 63973.816 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 10286477.9499 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.4143 seconds
Mar 30 20:35:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 75 @ 0.0044 = 0.33 BTC [-]
Mar 30 20:35:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00432 BTC [-]
Mar 30 20:35:12 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 30 20:35:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.003512 / 0.00390436 / 0.0039999 (2196 shares, 8.57 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00338792 / 0.0045 (677769 shares, 2,296.23 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.0044567 / 0.00637777 (1648084 shares, 7,345.02 BTC)
Mar 30 20:35:31 <thestrin1puller>	why is no one arbing S.DICE
Mar 30 20:36:13 <BitHub>	can someone explain how does mpex loose money?
Mar 30 20:36:17 <BitHub>	doesn't make any sense
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Mar 30 20:38:07 <cole_albon>	bit hub - I suspect s.dice revenue is x% of someone's fiat based paycheck.  If the price of bitcoin skyrockets, then then number of btc going to s.dice goes down. Same thing with mope I suspect.
Mar 30 20:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9717 @ 0.00066534 = 6.4651 BTC [-]
Mar 30 20:38:37 <cole_albon>	looking for how to turn off spell checker...
Mar 30 20:38:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1483 @ 0.00066395 = 0.9846 BTC [-]
Mar 30 20:38:39 <kakobrekla>	they lost money selling options exposure
Mar 30 20:39:59 <cole_albon>	Does everything on mpex end up being a bitcoin denominated hedge against the price of bitcoin going up?
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Mar 30 20:53:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3056 @ 0.00066395 = 2.029 BTC [-]
Mar 30 20:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5690 @ 0.00066394 = 3.7778 BTC [-]
Mar 30 20:53:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5080 @ 0.00066269 = 3.3665 BTC [-]
Mar 30 20:53:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25574 @ 0.00066268 = 16.9474 BTC [-]
Mar 30 20:55:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.004112 = 0.0206 BTC [+]
Mar 30 20:55:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.004114 = 0.0206 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 20:56:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00509 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 21:05:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Mar 30 21:06:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1059 = 1.059 BTC [-]
Mar 30 21:11:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18626 @ 0.00066268 = 12.3431 BTC [-]
Mar 30 21:11:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2448 @ 0.00066251 = 1.6218 BTC [-]
Mar 30 21:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	cole_albon seems improbable. mpoe does btc hedging, that need scales with btc and has little to do with anyone's paycheck.
Mar 30 21:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	as long as there's X btc in circulation, cX will need to be hedged one way or another.
Mar 30 21:21:08 <cole_albon>	a couple of months ago I fat fingered an entry to buy s.dice when i meant to buy mpoe. with the huge spreads,  I couldn't justify fixing my mistake immediately.  I still regret that decision daily.
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Mar 30 21:22:32 <thestrin1puller>	Bugpowder: the bondholders want their money back
Mar 30 21:22:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 98 @ 0.004114 = 0.4032 BTC [+]
Mar 30 21:22:59 <Bugpowder>	Aww
Mar 30 21:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	cole_albon that's one fat finger ;/
Mar 30 21:24:45 <Bugpowder>	I invoke rule 23, "he who owns the coins is he who can send them"
Mar 30 21:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
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Mar 30 21:32:47 <Bugpowder_>	;;bids 0
Mar 30 21:32:49 <gribble>	There are currently 34842318 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10101444.2221 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0181 seconds
Mar 30 21:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.08 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 21:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136468147938.jpg lmao
Mar 30 21:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	this is going well
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Mar 30 22:14:30 <TomServo>	how many entries?
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Mar 30 22:36:40 <thestrin1puller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 30 22:36:40 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 30 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <smickles> oh, it just changed
Mar 30 22:36:47 <thestrin1puller>	dang
Mar 30 22:36:51 <thestrin1puller>	mister smickles
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Mar 30 22:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.549999 = 9.9 BTC [+]
Mar 30 22:54:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00065945 = 6.1659 BTC [-]
Mar 30 22:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00065889 = 2.1414 BTC [-]
Mar 30 22:54:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00065493 = 6.2218 BTC [-]
Mar 30 22:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00065318 = 3.9844 BTC [-]
Mar 30 22:54:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00065316 = 1.9595 BTC [-]
Mar 30 22:56:33 <taub>	price is exhausting itself
Mar 30 22:56:44 <taub>	@btcusd
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Mar 30 23:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9695 @ 0.00066535 = 6.4506 BTC [+]
Mar 30 23:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2860 @ 0.00066562 = 1.9037 BTC [+]
Mar 30 23:03:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00067021 = 1.709 BTC [+]
Mar 30 23:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.54999999 = 8.25 BTC [+]
Mar 30 23:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.54999999 = 5.5 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 23:11:07 <KRS1>	are there any gox alternatives? They say 80% of btc is exchanged there
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Mar 30 23:16:13 <taub>	there are lots of alternatives, but not really for serious trading
Mar 30 23:16:17 <taub>	check the markets on bitcoincharts.com
Mar 30 23:16:31 <taub>	there are maybe one or two alternatives that have 10% the volume of mtgox
Mar 30 23:17:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.799 BTC [-]
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Mar 30 23:22:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1563 BTC [-]
Mar 30 23:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.000001 = 4 BTC [-]
Mar 30 23:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.54999997 BTC [-]
Mar 30 23:28:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.55 = 1.65 BTC [+]
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Mar 30 23:44:41 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Mar 30 23:44:43 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.003512 / 0.00390436 / 0.0039999 (2196 shares, 8.57 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00338792 / 0.0045 (677769 shares, 2,296.23 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.0044567 / 0.00637777 (1648084 shares, 7,345.02 BTC)
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Mar 30 23:49:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 231 @ 0.0039999 = 0.924 BTC [+]
Mar 30 23:50:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1087 @ 0.004114 = 4.4719 BTC [+]
Mar 30 23:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
Mar 30 23:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 00:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.55 = 1.65 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 00:06:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00412 = 0.0824 BTC [-]
Mar 31 00:06:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.0041 = 0.0164 BTC [-]
Mar 31 00:06:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00406 BTC [-]
Mar 31 00:07:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 85 @ 0.00405 = 0.3443 BTC [-]
Mar 31 00:08:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.004 = 0.04 BTC [-]
Mar 31 00:09:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.1563 = 0.6252 BTC [-]
Mar 31 00:09:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.1563 = 1.4067 BTC [-]
Mar 31 00:09:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 21 @ 0.1564 = 3.2844 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 00:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-]
Mar 31 00:13:47 <KRS1>	thanks taub
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Mar 31 00:14:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.379 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 00:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 35 @ 0.54999998 = 19.25 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 00:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 00:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.55 = 2.2 BTC [+]
Mar 31 00:18:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 44 @ 0.5497777 = 24.1902 BTC [-]
Mar 31 00:27:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
Mar 31 00:33:50 <KRS1>	has anyone seen the wall on btc-e havent seen one like that
Mar 31 00:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00067021 = 13.0021 BTC [+]
Mar 31 00:47:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00067892 = 3.9377 BTC [+]
Mar 31 00:47:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.0006806 = 0.3403 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 01:28:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00066691 = 1.8007 BTC [-]
Mar 31 01:28:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00066126 = 4.8272 BTC [-]
Mar 31 01:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.55 = 3.3 BTC [+]
Mar 31 01:39:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00067827 = 6.647 BTC [+]
Mar 31 01:40:21 <copumpkin>	hey Diablo-D3, can I borrow 50k coins?
Mar 31 01:40:59 <Diablo-D3>	copumpkin: fuck dude, Im still trying to acquire $50k
Mar 31 01:41:08 <copumpkin>	oh
Mar 31 01:41:21 <copumpkin>	lame
Mar 31 01:41:25 <copumpkin>	I thought you had craploads o' coins
Mar 31 01:41:38 <Scrat>	Diablo-D3: then why boast about your ol' cpu mining days
Mar 31 01:41:53 <Scrat>	;;slap Diablo-D3
Mar 31 01:41:54 *	gribble slaps Diablo-D3 with a pure Fleshlight
Mar 31 01:42:09 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: because Ive long since sold those?
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Mar 31 01:50:49 <Diablo-D3>	now I wish I didnt, obviously
Mar 31 01:54:41 *	Scrat gives Diablo-D3 a bro hug
Mar 31 01:54:43 <Scrat>	(no homo)
Mar 31 02:01:27 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Mar 31 02:05:35 <copumpkin>	no homo?
Mar 31 02:06:19 <Scrat>	copumpkin: let's just say that on scale of 0 being totally no homo and 10 being full on homo this is a 0.1
Mar 31 02:06:30 <copumpkin>	(no homo) http://nsfw-comix.com/nsfw262.htm
Mar 31 02:07:35 <Scrat>	nice one
Mar 31 02:08:32 *	copumpkin bro-fists Scrat 
Mar 31 02:08:35 <copumpkin>	'night all
Mar 31 02:09:08 <Scrat>	gn
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Mar 31 02:21:55 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 31 02:21:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.30001, Best ask: 93.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 93.30000, 24 hour volume: 16864.87295079, 24 hour low: 90.00000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 91.76790
Mar 31 02:24:40 <KRS1>	night
Mar 31 02:47:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7701 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.77 = 1.54 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.766 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7651 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7531 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.753 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.75203 = 7.5203 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75202 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.75201 = 4.5121 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.752 = 1.504 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.752 = 5.264 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:47:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.01 = 4.02 BTC [-]
Mar 31 02:49:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4349999 BTC [+]
Mar 31 02:49:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.435 = 0.87 BTC [+]
Mar 31 03:08:24 <Garr255>	@help
Mar 31 03:08:26 <Garr255>	;;help
Mar 31 03:08:26 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Mar 31 03:08:29 <Garr255>	!help
Mar 31 03:08:30 <assbot>	List of commands:
Mar 31 03:08:31 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
Mar 31 03:08:32 <assbot>	!last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
Mar 31 03:08:33 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Mar 31 03:08:34 <assbot>	!rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
Mar 31 03:08:35 <assbot>	!exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
Mar 31 03:08:42 <Garr255>	!last COGNITIVE
Mar 31 03:08:42 <assbot>	You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
Mar 31 03:09:00 <Garr255>	!last btctc COGNITIVE
Mar 31 03:09:01 <assbot>	Last trade for COGNITIVE on BTCTC was at 0.1564 BTC [+]
Mar 31 03:09:32 <Garr255>	!ticker btctc cognitive
Mar 31 03:09:34 <assbot>	[BTCT:COGNITIVE] 1D: 0.1525 / 0.15629 / 0.1565 (62 shares, 9.7 BTC),  7D: 0.108 / 0.13283 / 0.1565 (366 shares, 48.6 BTC), 30D: 0.1012 / 0.1814 / 0.3 (949 shares, 172.2 BTC)
Mar 31 03:10:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00068021 = 6.8021 BTC [+]
Mar 31 03:10:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00068022 = 2.0066 BTC [+]
Mar 31 03:18:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3207 @ 0.00068022 = 2.1815 BTC [+]
Mar 31 03:32:00 <taub>	this might be the start of somethign big
Mar 31 03:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00068022 = 10.5094 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 03:46:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0043 = 8.6 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 03:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.00439992 = 15.8397 BTC [+]
Mar 31 04:06:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.733 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.73251 = 4.3951 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7325 = 4.395 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7311 = 2.9244 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.73001 = 4.3801 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.72562 = 3.6281 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.72562 = 7.2562 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72561 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.725001 = 2.175 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.725 = 10.15 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
Mar 31 04:06:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 04:41:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 193 @ 0.00068022 = 0.1313 BTC [+]
Mar 31 04:41:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14207 @ 0.00068054 = 9.6684 BTC [+]
Mar 31 04:44:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.79 = 4.74 BTC [+]
Mar 31 04:44:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7937 BTC [+]
Mar 31 04:44:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7938 BTC [+]
Mar 31 04:44:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7939 BTC [+]
Mar 31 04:44:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 79 @ 0.794 = 62.726 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 05:14:17 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 31 05:14:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.80001, Best ask: 93.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49999, Last trade: 93.30000, 24 hour volume: 16605.59009712, 24 hour low: 90.01000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 91.97033
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Mar 31 05:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00067827 = 2.4079 BTC [-]
Mar 31 05:36:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.000673 = 2.692 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 05:38:19 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Mar 31 05:38:19 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.55 BTC [+]
Mar 31 05:38:26 <error4733>	!last m s.dice
Mar 31 05:38:26 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00439992 BTC [+]
Mar 31 05:38:39 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 31 05:38:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.003512 / 0.00422793 / 0.00439992 (8027 shares, 33.94 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00339375 / 0.0045 (681282 shares, 2,312.10 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00443735 / 0.00637777 (1636877 shares, 7,263.40 BTC)
Mar 31 05:38:45 <error4733>	;;ticker
Mar 31 05:38:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.01001, Best ask: 93.38980, Bid-ask spread: 0.37979, Last trade: 93.39000, 24 hour volume: 16094.23706714, 24 hour low: 90.01000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 91.98816
Mar 31 05:39:51 <error4733>	!aks 99.9
Mar 31 05:39:56 <error4733>	!asks 99.9
Mar 31 05:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 2.01 = 10.05 BTC [-]
Mar 31 05:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.000001 = 2 BTC [-]
Mar 31 05:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2.01 = 6.03 BTC [-]
Mar 31 05:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00066178 = 2.9118 BTC [-]
Mar 31 05:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00066126 = 5.3893 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 05:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10329 @ 0.0006572 = 6.7882 BTC [-]
Mar 31 05:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7671 @ 0.00065719 = 5.0413 BTC [-]
Mar 31 05:53:42 <bitesak>	is there a nice summary of btc-e somewhere? ie. would you use it and if not why not?
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Mar 31 06:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 58 @ 0.546 = 31.668 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 06:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.5484 = 1.0968 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 06:23:27 <jurov>	hi mircea_popescu, what are you doing here?
Mar 31 06:23:40 <jurov>	you should be disappeared (according all these pundits)
Mar 31 06:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?
Mar 31 06:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	i'm writing an article re the cypriot haircuts.
Mar 31 06:25:16 <bitesak>	get it out quickly before another country gets trimmed
Mar 31 06:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	heh yeah.
Mar 31 06:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	usually takes me about half an hour so,
Mar 31 06:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	we should be safe.
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Mar 31 06:30:51 <jurov>	on reddit/btctalk most everyone "yea we know the pattern, first the loss, then founder disappears"
Mar 31 06:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	oic
Mar 31 06:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	sorry
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Mar 31 06:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/time-for-europe-to-repeal-the-us-backed-aml-crap/
Mar 31 06:49:01 <mircea_popescu>	there we go.
Mar 31 06:51:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2362 @ 0.00066965 = 1.5817 BTC [+]
Mar 31 06:51:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2534 @ 0.00068054 = 1.7245 BTC [+]
Mar 31 06:51:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068373 = 3.4187 BTC [+]
Mar 31 06:51:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5940 @ 0.00068374 = 4.0614 BTC [+]
Mar 31 06:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	what seriously ?!
Mar 31 06:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	dude, i wasn't going anywhere. sometimes i sleep.
Mar 31 06:52:25 <mircea_popescu>	some other times i do other things.
Mar 31 06:52:46 <damientrog>	what you mean like in the real world?
Mar 31 06:54:09 <kakobrekla>	not in the real world but afk
Mar 31 06:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 31 06:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	in the sliver between irl and afk
Mar 31 06:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	actually come to think of it most of my life is spent in the surreal world.
Mar 31 07:02:41 <kakobrekla>	so what did i mis
Mar 31 07:02:42 <kakobrekla>	s
Mar 31 07:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://adevarul.ro/locale/brasov/cum-s-a-razbunat-brasovean-pesotia-infidelae-i-a-facut-piatra-mormant-pornografica-1_515537eb00f5182b8560d57a/index.html <<
Mar 31 07:02:56 <mircea_popescu>	wife dies in car crash with lover ? make her a nice funeral stone
Mar 31 07:03:18 <kakobrekla>	heh
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Mar 31 07:08:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Mar 31 07:08:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.61801, Best ask: 93.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.58199, Last trade: 92.61801, 24 hour volume: 16245.29131852, 24 hour low: 90.01000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.01373
Mar 31 07:19:34 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135914.msg1705429#msg1705429
Mar 31 07:19:36 <kakobrekla>	lol idiots
Mar 31 07:19:40 <kakobrekla>	i told em to use bitbet
Mar 31 07:20:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00439991 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Mar 31 07:20:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0043 = 8.6 BTC [-]
Mar 31 07:20:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00420559 = 6.5187 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 07:20:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4375 @ 0.00397758 = 17.4019 BTC [-]
Mar 31 07:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00065794 = 7.5992 BTC [-]
Mar 31 07:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00065719 = 1.5444 BTC [-]
Mar 31 07:22:26 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Mar 31 07:22:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.003512 / 0.00417324 / 0.00439992 (16452 shares, 68.66 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00340263 / 0.0045 (689707 shares, 2,346.82 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00443573 / 0.00637777 (1645302 shares, 7,298.12 BTC)
Mar 31 07:22:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1825 @ 0.00397758 = 7.2591 BTC [-]
Mar 31 07:35:00 <mircea_popescu>	Anna Brandenburg
Mar 31 07:35:00 <mircea_popescu>	research interest
Mar 31 07:35:00 <mircea_popescu>	I am interested in questions concerning cheating and how mutualistic
Mar 31 07:35:00 <mircea_popescu>	interactions are maintained, especially plant-pollinator interactions.
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Mar 31 07:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhHpstDGw6Q
Mar 31 07:42:41 <mircea_popescu>	check out that entrepreneurial dood
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Mar 31 07:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5484 BTC [+]
Mar 31 07:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.55 = 6.05 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 07:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9686 @ 0.00067011 = 6.4907 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 08:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	eh wut is this, matonis retweeting me. we're like friends now or something
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Mar 31 08:34:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 28 @ 0.0043 = 0.1204 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 08:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2614 @ 0.00067011 = 1.7517 BTC [+]
Mar 31 08:57:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10301 @ 0.00067137 = 6.9158 BTC [+]
Mar 31 09:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.415 = 12.45 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:04:46 <kakobrekla>	omg
Mar 31 09:04:47 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxsA2i5cF78
Mar 31 09:04:49 <kakobrekla>	taaki again
Mar 31 09:04:53 <kakobrekla>	srsly.
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Mar 31 09:05:27 <kakobrekla>	"its a billion dollar market with charts and graphs and everything!"
Mar 31 09:05:35 <kakobrekla>	thats a quote
Mar 31 09:05:45 <Azelphur>	I found out the other day apparently Taaki's mom lives just around the corner from me, and he comes down here to visit her occasionally
Mar 31 09:05:52 <Azelphur>	Maybe I'll meet him one day xD
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Mar 31 09:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla free market. it's like one of those flemish paintings,
Mar 31 09:07:04 <kakobrekla>	haha lol
Mar 31 09:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	all the mental illness and weird and sickly at the edges.
Mar 31 09:07:13 <kakobrekla>	then he climbs on some roof
Mar 31 09:07:20 <kakobrekla>	and looks on top of the city
Mar 31 09:07:25 <kakobrekla>	keiser-like
Mar 31 09:07:28 <kakobrekla>	haha
Mar 31 09:07:35 <kakobrekla>	idiot.
Mar 31 09:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	i just checked and my ignore lines count is at 0
Mar 31 09:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	this is how it fucking works, one day it goes over 500, then a few days of 200, then 0
Mar 31 09:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	then a few weeks later rewash
Mar 31 09:15:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [+]
Mar 31 09:18:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2357 @ 0.00065719 = 1.549 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17143 @ 0.00065718 = 11.266 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 09:28:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.00065794 = 19.1132 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 09:42:05 <triad_py>	mircea_popescu : can i pm you ?
Mar 31 09:42:10 <mircea_popescu>	surely.
Mar 31 09:44:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7501 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.75 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.74 = 4.44 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.74 = 1.48 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.735 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7301 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.730001 = 7.3 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.71 = 4.97 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7001 = 7.001 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:44:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
Mar 31 09:47:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00065794 = 14.0141 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 10:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 10:11:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.157 = 0.471 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 10:15:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.157 = 0.314 BTC [+]
Mar 31 10:15:45 <pigeons>	who was the kraken guy?
Mar 31 10:16:42 <pigeons>	https://www.kraken.com/
Mar 31 10:17:10 <pigeons>	signup gives me 503 service unavailable anyway
Mar 31 10:17:41 <ZedsterX>	it's not open yet
Mar 31 10:18:05 <pigeons>	who runs it
Mar 31 10:18:08 <kakobrekla>	why is that name so popular
Mar 31 10:18:43 <Scrat>	because it is something that you release often
Mar 31 10:18:56 <kakobrekla>	this guy runs it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159974.0
Mar 31 10:19:04 <ZedsterX>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159974.0
Mar 31 10:19:07 <ZedsterX>	heheh oops
Mar 31 10:19:16 <ZedsterX>	ju fast kako
Mar 31 10:19:23 <kakobrekla>	:p
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Mar 31 10:20:48 <pigeons>	i think that one  deserves the mpoe-pr link to the how to start a biz post
Mar 31 10:21:53 <BitHub>	everyone eventually reads it
Mar 31 10:23:02 *	ZedsterX bites his tongue
Mar 31 10:23:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.38 = 1.9 BTC [+]
Mar 31 10:27:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 31 10:30:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00065533 = 17.6284 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:30:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00065474 = 1.8333 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:30:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00065226 = 8.8707 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1446 @ 0.00065164 = 0.9423 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	and to think the entire kraken bs was born out of mpoe-pr's early pirate mockery.
Mar 31 10:31:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Mar 31 10:31:35 <gribble>	57091.1887512
Mar 31 10:31:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 31 10:31:46 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 228927 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 896 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7339752.00641 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.61682
Mar 31 10:32:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Mar 31 10:32:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.01000, Best ask: 93.26999, Bid-ask spread: 0.25999, Last trade: 93.01000, 24 hour volume: 15740.21976489, 24 hour low: 90.01000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.28575
Mar 31 10:32:27 <ThickAsThieves>	holding at 93 during holidays, not bad
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Mar 31 10:33:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Mar 31 10:33:12 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7339752.00641 based on data since last change | 7975425.23715 based on data for last three days
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Mar 31 10:33:53 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 31 10:33:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.01002, Best ask: 93.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18998, Last trade: 93.20000, 24 hour volume: 15670.88422591, 24 hour low: 90.01000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.29840
Mar 31 10:34:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C137T] 1000 @ 0.10232396 = 102.324 BTC
Mar 31 10:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 31 10:35:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7 = 3.5 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:35:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:35:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6841 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:35:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.684 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:35:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.681009 = 6.8101 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:35:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.681008 = 6.8101 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:35:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.681006 = 6.8101 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:35:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.672002 = 1.344 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:35:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.66 = 3.3 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:35:51 <ThickAsThieves>	dammit i was just moving btc there
Mar 31 10:36:36 <mircea_popescu>	honeymoon over ?
Mar 31 10:37:23 <ThickAsThieves>	no news that i know of
Mar 31 10:37:32 <ThickAsThieves>	still no new hashes tho
Mar 31 10:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	i guess in this field no news is bad news
Mar 31 10:38:23 <ThickAsThieves>	they did move .35TH to ozcoin today
Mar 31 10:38:27 <ThickAsThieves>	whatever that means
Mar 31 10:38:45 <ThickAsThieves>	.38
Mar 31 10:38:50 <ThickAsThieves>	roughly
Mar 31 10:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 10:48:28 <[\\\]>	whats going on with asicminer?
Mar 31 10:49:04 <ThickAsThieves>	profit taking by shareholders that bought at lower price?
Mar 31 10:49:19 <[\\\]>	nice
Mar 31 10:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:50:19 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] they missed their window.
Mar 31 10:50:32 <[\\\]>	at this point, who hasn't?
Mar 31 10:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3975 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.397 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:51:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.397 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:51:17 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice cleared a juicy 50k in its ipo.
Mar 31 10:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	asicminer holders got what, 1k ? 2 ?
Mar 31 10:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 31 10:52:30 <[\\\]>	no
Mar 31 10:52:41 <[\\\]>	they sold lke 163k units
Mar 31 10:52:43 <[\\\]>	at .1
Mar 31 10:53:01 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. and then those people held the bag for ~1year
Mar 31 10:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.39600001 = 0.792 BTC [-]
Mar 31 10:53:06 <[\\\]>	there were some bulk buys at slightly cheaper
Mar 31 10:53:10 <mircea_popescu>	and then when their purchase struck gold and they had their liquidity event
Mar 31 10:53:13 <mircea_popescu>	they couldn't divest.
Mar 31 10:53:21 <[\\\]>	I did :)
Mar 31 10:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	so... you know, every shareholder got fucked.
Mar 31 10:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	but luckily people aren't clever enough to figure it out, so it's all good.
Mar 31 10:54:17 <[\\\]>	I do find it interesting how they swung from "We're gonna sell" at the beginning to "We're not gonna sell" in the middle to "We're gonna sell"
Mar 31 10:54:21 <ThickAsThieves>	so where do you place AM share value?
Mar 31 10:54:22 <[\\\]>	hardware that is
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Mar 31 10:54:41 <[\\\]>	considering they paid out the IPO price already
Mar 31 10:54:48 <[\\\]>	and now all shares get half of that going forward
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Mar 31 10:54:59 <[\\\]>	meanwhile difficulty continues to go up and they continue to roll ou the original batch
Mar 31 10:55:06 <[\\\]>	while withholding dividends to buy more
Mar 31 10:55:18 <ThickAsThieves>	yes, all things considered
Mar 31 10:55:22 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 31 10:55:32 <[\\\]>	I think .5 is very optimistic
Mar 31 10:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	heh. a well.
Mar 31 10:56:00 <[\\\]>	Yes, they'll sell hardware but its an older tech
Mar 31 10:56:01 <ThickAsThieves>	not sure if i agree
Mar 31 10:56:08 <[\\\]>	they're gonna have to do a bunch of R&D
Mar 31 10:56:22 <[\\\]>	meanwhile, the rest of the crowd on the smaller processes are doing their own R&D
Mar 31 10:56:29 <[\\\]>	trying to leapfrog will be stupid hard
Mar 31 10:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159935.msg1709554#msg1709554
Mar 31 10:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	i can hear the butthurt storm form here
Mar 31 10:59:15 <[\\\]>	How is that good PR for MPOE?
Mar 31 11:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	it's not pr at all, it's csr.
Mar 31 11:01:41 <[\\\]>	can't stand retards?
Mar 31 11:01:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 11:01:57 <[\\\]>	ThickAsThieves, then what's your value?
Mar 31 11:02:04 <[\\\]>	if .5 is so terrible
Mar 31 11:02:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i think a safe value, is whatever amounts to 3.5%+ monthly divs
Mar 31 11:03:17 <[\\\]>	;;calc 0.0151/.03
Mar 31 11:03:17 <gribble>	0.503333333333
Mar 31 11:03:21 <[\\\]>	my value
Mar 31 11:03:23 <[\\\]>	what do you know
Mar 31 11:03:32 <ThickAsThieves>	so can go higher
Mar 31 11:03:41 <[\\\]>	no
Mar 31 11:03:47 <[\\\]>	thats not how difficulty works
Mar 31 11:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] corporate social responsibility.
Mar 31 11:04:04 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu, no
Mar 31 11:04:36 <ThickAsThieves>	\\\, your div is half what i figure
Mar 31 11:04:56 <[\\\]>	ThickAsThieves, how do you plan to pay for the new hardware?
Mar 31 11:05:07 <[\\\]>	how about the R&D?
Mar 31 11:05:22 <ThickAsThieves>	this week and next are weeks where divs are cut
Mar 31 11:05:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i should say
Mar 31 11:05:32 <ThickAsThieves>	last weeks div
Mar 31 11:05:36 <ThickAsThieves>	and next div
Mar 31 11:05:40 <[\\\]>	how about when the local Chinese government decides they awnt to get in on the action?
Mar 31 11:05:49 <ThickAsThieves>	last dive was a bout .007?
Mar 31 11:05:52 <[\\\]>	or what happens when BFL actually rolls out their hardware and diff goes up even faster
Mar 31 11:05:58 <ThickAsThieves>	so let's just use that
Mar 31 11:06:15 <ThickAsThieves>	.007 * 4.33 = .03031
Mar 31 11:06:20 <ThickAsThieves>	monthly
Mar 31 11:06:48 <ThickAsThieves>	dive=div
Mar 31 11:07:02 <[\\\]>	I find it interesting how optimistic shareholders can be
Mar 31 11:07:19 <ThickAsThieves>	well it's not like i'm buying shares at 1btc
Mar 31 11:07:28 <[\\\]>	why not?
Mar 31 11:07:34 <[\\\]>	if you think things are so undervalued
Mar 31 11:07:39 <[\\\]>	and its trading at .6 or .7
Mar 31 11:07:40 <ThickAsThieves>	because they can be had for .65
Mar 31 11:07:45 <[\\\]>	the buy should be making sense
Mar 31 11:07:51 <[\\\]>	you should be borrowing funds to buy more
Mar 31 11:07:53 <[\\\]>	its cheap!
Mar 31 11:08:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont borrow for investing
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Mar 31 11:09:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i do have about 20-40btc more i'll spend on low market AM shares though
Mar 31 11:09:08 <[\\\]>	why not?
Mar 31 11:09:13 <[\\\]>	if its making .03% a month
Mar 31 11:09:22 <[\\\]>	err 3%
Mar 31 11:09:33 <[\\\]>	then you can pay 1% month and be making even MOAR
Mar 31 11:09:56 <ThickAsThieves>	you are jumping from me saying somehting has more value you than you think, to saying i think it has no risk
Mar 31 11:09:58 <ThickAsThieves>	silly
Mar 31 11:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.434 = 0.868 BTC [+]
Mar 31 11:11:10 <[\\\]>	the more risky something is, generally the less valuable it is due ot the negative EV
Mar 31 11:11:22 <ThickAsThieves>	you are oversimplifynig
Mar 31 11:11:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i still have room to arb low-cost shares
Mar 31 11:11:35 <ThickAsThieves>	and many other factors
Mar 31 11:11:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11654 @ 0.00065164 = 7.5942 BTC [-]
Mar 31 11:11:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 746 @ 0.00065134 = 0.4859 BTC [-]
Mar 31 11:11:55 <[\\\]>	what you do with shares has nothing to do with company 'value'
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Mar 31 11:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 31 11:12:21 <ThickAsThieves>	why would you assume i'd put company value over my own position
Mar 31 11:12:29 <ThickAsThieves>	these are dynamic factors
Mar 31 11:15:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779 BTC [+]
Mar 31 11:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.434 = 0.868 BTC [+]
Mar 31 11:18:24 <Scrat>	[17:56] <mircea_popescu> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159935.msg1709554#msg1709554
Mar 31 11:18:28 <Scrat>	lol, they're using mongodb
Mar 31 11:18:40 <Scrat>	are they for fucking real
Mar 31 11:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
Mar 31 11:22:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.151001 BTC [-]
Mar 31 11:23:22 <[\\\]>	Scrat, at least its not MS Access
Mar 31 11:28:26 <Scrat>	this is a textbook example of 2 multistatement queries arriving at the same time on a database that can't do transactional locking
Mar 31 11:29:23 <pigeons>	you have to use mongodb to be picked up by ycombinator
Mar 31 11:29:35 <Scrat>	pigeons: correct
Mar 31 11:29:44 <pigeons>	you're allowed to use Go now if you don't want to use rails
Mar 31 11:29:58 <copumpkin>	or scheme
Mar 31 11:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.433 = 0.866 BTC [-]
Mar 31 11:30:05 <copumpkin>	since graham likes scheme
Mar 31 11:30:15 <Scrat>	if you go with the trifecta (node/mongo/redis) YC will refuse NOT to accept you
Mar 31 11:30:45 <copumpkin>	wow!
Mar 31 11:30:52 <copumpkin>	then I can make like $7k just like that
Mar 31 11:31:02 <copumpkin>	get "rich" quick scheme
Mar 31 11:32:09 <Scrat>	copumpkin: I'll let you in on a secret
Mar 31 11:32:18 <Scrat>	copumpkin: lobster.ttf
Mar 31 11:32:32 <Scrat>	100% guaranteed vulture capital
Mar 31 11:33:03 <pigeons>	whisper "bootstrap" into dustin hoffman's ear
Mar 31 11:33:29 <copumpkin>	:O
Mar 31 11:33:54 <copumpkin>	Scrat: I see what you mean
Mar 31 11:34:02 <copumpkin>	it's amazing I have not picked up on this sooner
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Mar 31 11:38:51 <thestrin1puller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 31 11:38:51 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 13 hours, 32 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <smickles> oh, it just changed
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Mar 31 11:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat hm ?
Mar 31 11:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	<pigeons> you have to use mongodb to be picked up by ycombinator << heh.
Mar 31 11:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	what i find funniest in all this recent coin* drama is piuk's haste to divest from any relation to anything that may even be vaguely related to yshit.
Mar 31 11:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	i think it speaks volumes.
Mar 31 11:51:15 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: what
Mar 31 11:52:08 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, you hilighted me
Mar 31 11:52:28 <mircea_popescu>	also http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/484142_487005764686476_40092274_n.jpg
Mar 31 11:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21254 @ 0.00065134 = 13.8436 BTC [-]
Mar 31 11:53:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14662 @ 0.0006506 = 9.5391 BTC [-]
Mar 31 11:55:30 <KRS1>	Shave ya snatch https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/110479356/dial-100.jpg
Mar 31 11:57:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [+]
Mar 31 11:57:23 <smickles>	;;seen smickles
Mar 31 11:57:23 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 13 hours, 51 minutes, and 1 second ago: <smickles> oh, it just changed
Mar 31 11:57:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00499 = 0.01 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 12:04:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3685 @ 0.00064633 = 2.3817 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 12:06:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00064772 = 10.1044 BTC [+]
Mar 31 12:08:40 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 31 12:08:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.81704, Best ask: 93.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.53296, Last trade: 92.81603, 24 hour volume: 15140.92464305, 24 hour low: 90.20220, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.43116
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Mar 31 12:09:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00671 BTC [-]
Mar 31 12:09:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.00671 = 0.0134 BTC [-]
Mar 31 12:10:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.0067 = 0.0201 BTC [-]
Mar 31 12:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.601 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 12:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.01 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 12:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.209 = 2.418 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 12:25:50 <thestrin1puller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 31 12:25:50 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 28 minutes and 26 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;seen smickles
Mar 31 12:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4329999 = 0.866 BTC [-]
Mar 31 12:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.6099 = 1.8297 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 12:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4329999 = 1.299 BTC [-]
Mar 31 12:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 6 @ 1.209 = 7.254 BTC [+]
Mar 31 12:30:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 35 @ 0.38 = 13.3 BTC [+]
Mar 31 12:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.433 BTC [+]
Mar 31 12:32:43 <thestrin1puller>	mr. smickles where is you!
Mar 31 12:33:31 <thestrin1puller>	:(
Mar 31 12:35:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.38 = 3.8 BTC [+]
Mar 31 12:42:14 <thestrin1puller>	I lik ehow Bitcointroll.org goes to bitcointalk
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Mar 31 12:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.6099 = 2.4396 BTC [+]
Mar 31 12:47:22 <thestrin1puller>	;;seen smickles
Mar 31 12:47:22 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 49 minutes and 58 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;seen smickles
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Mar 31 13:09:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.004 = 20 BTC [+]
Mar 31 13:11:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3171400
Mar 31 13:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	teh haet.
Mar 31 13:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.01 = 4.02 BTC [-]
Mar 31 13:14:55 <thestrin1puller>	damn it I shoiuld have withdrawn coin from smickles with all this havelock trades going on
Mar 31 13:14:58 <thestrin1puller>	ugh
Mar 31 13:16:40 <Bugpowder>	Denninger can suck it
Mar 31 13:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	remarkably flawed arguments he has.
Mar 31 13:17:11 <Bugpowder>	If you have to write up something so convoluted to trash bitcoin that I can't even understand what your argument is, you have a problem
Mar 31 13:17:13 <deadweasel>	He owns bitcoin, wants more, trying to get the price down.
Mar 31 13:17:21 <Bugpowder>	he doesn't own bitcoin
Mar 31 13:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	he fails to realise that the link between address and physical person is optional to the person
Mar 31 13:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	and just assumes it as a given
Mar 31 13:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	he fails to understand that the
Mar 31 13:17:36 <Bugpowder>	I have been reading him since 07
Mar 31 13:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	'duties" of the segnior are easily, and discretely, accimplished by the bitcoin holders.
Mar 31 13:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	whoever doesn't sell in a market downturn is doing exactly that.
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Mar 31 13:18:38 <Bugpowder>	He is pretty good at analysis of traditional financial markets, but gets himself into trouble whenever he leaves his narrow zone of expertise
Mar 31 13:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	this is starting to become characteristic of the older teapartiers... i'd call it truthstranding
Mar 31 13:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	they get a strand of truth and run with it, in the process breaking it off.
Mar 31 13:18:59 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Mar 31 13:19:04 <benkay>	who?
Mar 31 13:19:12 <Bugpowder>	Karl Denninger
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Mar 31 13:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	we're discussingdenninger's recent nonsense, you came halfway in
Mar 31 13:19:39 <Bugpowder>	One of the first people that really nailed the call of the housing collapes and financial panic
Mar 31 13:19:40 <benkay>	i'm forever halfway in
Mar 31 13:19:56 <benkay>	ah yes, okay. spun up.
Mar 31 13:19:58 <Bugpowder>	but since 2008, if you followed his guidance you would have lost a lot of gains.
Mar 31 13:20:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder in fairness tho, i'd rather see this sort of mistaken argument than the outright meaningless drivel from kruger&monkey co
Mar 31 13:20:41 <Bugpowder>	I just can't be bothered to parse what he has written there
Mar 31 13:20:46 <Bugpowder>	is so obtuse and confused
Mar 31 13:20:53 <mircea_popescu>	kinda.
Mar 31 13:20:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1871 @ 0.00064633 = 1.2093 BTC [-]
Mar 31 13:20:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5301 @ 0.00064364 = 3.4119 BTC [-]
Mar 31 13:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7528 @ 0.00064363 = 4.8452 BTC [-]
Mar 31 13:21:22 <mircea_popescu>	i wish people would have the sense to /join #bitcoin-assets herpderp here's my new theory!!1
Mar 31 13:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	first.
Mar 31 13:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	get laughed to shit, straighten their head, live happier lives.
Mar 31 13:22:09 <benkay>	most people don't straighten their heads after suffering others laughter
Mar 31 13:22:23 <Bugpowder>	anyway, I'm banned from commenting on the subforum related to his market ticker posts.
Mar 31 13:22:27 <Bugpowder>	so, why bother
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Mar 31 13:22:30 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha what ?
Mar 31 13:22:42 <Bugpowder>	he bans you whenever he disagrees with you
Mar 31 13:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	sigh
Mar 31 13:22:51 <thestrin1puller>	Bugpowder: Did you get the bondholders their money back?
Mar 31 13:23:06 <thestrin1puller>	:D
Mar 31 13:23:41 <Bugpowder>	this is how the market-ticker forums turned from a good resource of market analysis back in 2007-2008 into a sycophantic group of blathering teabaggers.
Mar 31 13:23:53 <DeaDTerra>	WTS G.SDICE,G.MPOE, G.BBET, TU.Silver and BTCQuick shares! Pm me with offer :)
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Mar 31 13:24:40 <Bugpowder>	I made a very soft rebuttal to one of his tickers, boom.  Banned from posting
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Mar 31 13:25:08 <benkay>	what was it that the inimitable jove said about fools?
Mar 31 13:25:11 <Bugpowder>	In other news, Audi's a fucking over priced.
Mar 31 13:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	he's lucky he doesn't have me there i guess
Mar 31 13:25:23 <Bugpowder>	you would be banned immediately
Mar 31 13:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i think tiberiusiv can get you a deal.
Mar 31 13:25:30 <Bugpowder>	you may be prebanned
Mar 31 13:25:37 <benkay>	"a wise man once told me/don't argue with fools/'cause at a distance/people can't tell who's who"
Mar 31 13:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder why, just because i'd post bbq's of his wife doing donkey dongs ?
Mar 31 13:27:12 <benkay>	wtf bbq?
Mar 31 13:27:50 <deadweasel>	wtfbbq indeed
Mar 31 13:30:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.157 = 0.471 BTC [+]
Mar 31 13:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43997999 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 13:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43998 BTC [+]
Mar 31 13:37:06 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Mar 31 13:37:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 91.63384, Best ask: 92.15621, Bid-ask spread: 0.52237, Last trade: 92.40000, 24 hour volume: 17296.36135741, 24 hour low: 90.21010, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.48813
Mar 31 13:37:45 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Mar 31 13:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43997999 BTC [-]
Mar 31 13:38:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00064772 = 9.0681 BTC [+]
Mar 31 13:41:33 <Bugpowder>	Looks like I picked the wrong morning to buy calls
Mar 31 13:41:36 <Bugpowder>	stupid
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Mar 31 13:42:33 <bitesak>	it's okay, you can buy more in a few days
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Mar 31 13:42:51 <Bugpowder>	wait for the dipppp
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Mar 31 13:44:03 <ChaangNoi>	!assbot are you gay?
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Mar 31 13:44:28 <assbot>	only when you are around.
Mar 31 13:44:32 <ChaangNoi>	lol sup niggers?
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Mar 31 13:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Mar 31 13:44:47 <ChaangNoi>	lol assbot your delay is suspect
Mar 31 13:45:19 <ChaangNoi>	im on "holiday"
Mar 31 13:45:30 <benkay>	this so-called holiday
Mar 31 13:45:33 <ChaangNoi>	i miss "work"
Mar 31 13:45:51 <ChaangNoi>	hell i miss mp even
Mar 31 13:46:24 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136466777435.jpg there, special for you.
Mar 31 13:46:34 <ChaangNoi>	i bought a phone that will give me internet and a laptop that will use it
Mar 31 13:46:53 <ChaangNoi>	holy fuck i see a photo in chat!
Mar 31 13:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Mar 31 13:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160785.0;all
Mar 31 13:47:14 <ChaangNoi>	no photo this time
Mar 31 13:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	people trying to be mpoe-pr two weeks later
Mar 31 13:47:28 <ChaangNoi>	im pretty drunk now
Mar 31 13:47:49 <ChaangNoi>	iv been impressed with stuff you have written in theh passed
Mar 31 13:48:04 <ChaangNoi>	but it is just a waste now
Mar 31 13:48:19 <ChaangNoi>	im on "holiday"
Mar 31 13:48:34 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 95
Mar 31 13:48:34 <gribble>	There are currently 8927.9373 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 842763.877288 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.2377 seconds
Mar 31 13:48:39 <ChaangNoi>	fuck
Mar 31 13:48:43 <ChaangNoi>	;;bids 90
Mar 31 13:48:43 <gribble>	There are currently 3779.9471 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 341641.165297 USD in total. | Data vintage: 64.1880 seconds
Mar 31 13:49:05 <ChaangNoi>	mpsend me that link in about 2 weeks
Mar 31 13:49:15 <benkay>	holy shit
Mar 31 13:49:25 <benkay>	re import of private keys
Mar 31 13:49:27 <benkay>	Too dangerous for easy access - do you really want to enable people stealing coins from newbies? Power users can already import private keys using the debug console.
Mar 31 13:49:34 <ChaangNoi>	?
Mar 31 13:49:36 <benkay>	WHO THE FUCK LUKE JR
Mar 31 13:49:45 <benkay>	don't tell me what's dangerous
Mar 31 13:49:45 <ChaangNoi>	??
Mar 31 13:49:49 <benkay>	bitcoin is inherently dangerous
Mar 31 13:49:52 <kakobrekla>	some newb on this chan benkay
Mar 31 13:50:07 <ChaangNoi>	it it tiberslav?
Mar 31 13:50:09 <benkay>	these assholes seem to want bitcoins to be a "safe" thing to do
Mar 31 13:50:24 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav vs bengay?
Mar 31 13:50:29 <benkay>	if you want safe put your fiat into a bank
Mar 31 13:50:43 <benkay>	i know who lukejr is
Mar 31 13:50:50 <ChaangNoi>	brb need a new bot of black label
Mar 31 13:50:51 <benkay>	i'm attempting to express outrage
Mar 31 13:51:53 <ChaangNoi>	?
Mar 31 13:52:04 <ChaangNoi>	mp you drink some times/
Mar 31 13:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
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Mar 31 13:52:48 <ChaangNoi>	cool
Mar 31 13:53:06 <ChaangNoi>	gribble left :/
Mar 31 13:53:23 <ChaangNoi>	is bengay tiberslav?
Mar 31 13:54:05 <benkay>	man you wish you could rile me with that
Mar 31 13:54:14 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 31 13:54:19 <ChaangNoi>	with what?
Mar 31 13:54:21 <Diablo-D3>	goddamnit
Mar 31 13:54:21 <ChaangNoi>	hey d3
Mar 31 13:54:23 <Diablo-D3>	nanotube: FIX
Mar 31 13:54:24 <benkay>	but i've been called icy hot since high school
Mar 31 13:54:33 <Diablo-D3>	nanotube: FIX
Mar 31 13:54:35 <Diablo-D3>	nanotube: FIX
Mar 31 13:54:35 <Diablo-D3>	nanotube: FIX
Mar 31 13:54:35 <Diablo-D3>	nanotube: FIX
Mar 31 13:54:35 <Diablo-D3>	nanotube: FIX
Mar 31 13:54:51 <ChaangNoi>	d3 holy shit, its zombie day, be careful
Mar 31 13:55:28 <Diablo-D3>	I am the immortal lord of the underworld and all that is evil
Mar 31 13:55:37 *	assbot sets ban on *!*@pool-70-16-109-241.port.east.myfairpoint.net
Mar 31 13:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla : "They do 250gh a wait."
Mar 31 13:55:49 <assbot>	spam detected
Mar 31 13:55:54 <[\\\]>	if gribble pings out
Mar 31 13:55:55 <assbot>	or sumthn.
Mar 31 13:55:58 <[\\\]>	most likely, nanotube has too
Mar 31 13:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	why so aggitated
Mar 31 13:56:20 <[\\\]>	no meds
Mar 31 13:56:26 <ChaangNoi>	d3 i bought a mac book air
Mar 31 13:57:24 <ChaangNoi>	lol is assbot human?
Mar 31 13:57:36 <assbot>	fuckin gay rite nao
Mar 31 13:57:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8295 @ 0.00064363 = 5.3389 BTC [-]
Mar 31 13:57:43 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Mar 31 13:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00064219 = 9.5365 BTC [-]
Mar 31 13:57:46 <ChaangNoi>	hi kako
Mar 31 13:57:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7755 @ 0.00063719 = 4.9414 BTC [-]
Mar 31 13:58:02 <kakobrekla>	hi chang sup
Mar 31 13:58:08 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Mar 31 13:58:23 <ChaangNoi>	im drinking a bot of whisky that will cover the weeks holiday
Mar 31 13:59:15 <thestrin1puller>	;;ticker
Mar 31 13:59:19 <thestrin1puller>	;;gribble
Mar 31 13:59:28 <ChaangNoi>	he left
Mar 31 13:59:31 *	thestrin1puller is now known as thestringpuller
Mar 31 13:59:53 <ChaangNoi>	i bought the first evar ordered bfl
Mar 31 14:00:00 <ChaangNoi>	was i a fool?
Mar 31 14:00:12 <ChaangNoi>	bfl asic btw
Mar 31 14:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure it wasn;'t you, but
Mar 31 14:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	2-300 btc ? wd to them lol.
Mar 31 14:00:54 <ChaangNoi>	? lol what?
Mar 31 14:01:02 <ChaangNoi>	i bought the first evar ordered bfl
Mar 31 14:01:08 <ChaangNoi>	bfl asic
Mar 31 14:01:18 <ChaangNoi>	not fpga
Mar 31 14:01:32 <ChaangNoi>	wd =?
Mar 31 14:01:38 <ChaangNoi>	keep in mind im trahsed
Mar 31 14:01:49 <KRS1>	i asked em for bank transfer req..i have it looks like an order # on it..jody said no matter how long it takes to wire the money, they will keep my place in line..wonder if i should send it now..
Mar 31 14:02:08 <ChaangNoi>	i dont know
Mar 31 14:02:28 <ChaangNoi>	i just had the opertunity to be first in line and was like fuck it sure
Mar 31 14:02:58 <benkay>	what's the best decision we can talk ChaangNoi into, y'all?
Mar 31 14:03:13 <benkay>	buying a bunch of MPOE?
Mar 31 14:03:16 <benkay>	shorting BTC?
Mar 31 14:03:22 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Mar 31 14:03:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 1000 @ 1.45869937 = 1458.6994 BTC
Mar 31 14:03:38 <tiberiusiv>	i wouldnt short BTC
Mar 31 14:03:50 <ChaangNoi>	bengay isnot tibersav!
Mar 31 14:03:57 <ChaangNoi>	either of you from /g/
Mar 31 14:04:07 <benkay>	would anyone admit to that?
Mar 31 14:04:10 <tiberiusiv>	the asian sensation
Mar 31 14:04:10 <ChaangNoi>	be honest
Mar 31 14:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Mar 31 14:04:23 <tiberiusiv>	the gypsy
Mar 31 14:04:26 <mircea_popescu>	that's like a house worth of puts
Mar 31 14:04:30 <ChaangNoi>	benkay ight be from /g/
Mar 31 14:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	are we going down ?
Mar 31 14:04:53 <tiberiusiv>	more fake trades mircea?
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Mar 31 14:04:57 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi wd = well done
Mar 31 14:05:09 <ChaangNoi>	thanks
Mar 31 14:05:20 <bitesak>	s3052 suggests we are going down first before rising
Mar 31 14:05:41 <ChaangNoi>	link to his post or sht the fuck up
Mar 31 14:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	ya but s4420 says we're going up
Mar 31 14:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	there's 9999 of them
Mar 31 14:06:05 <thestringpuller>	yay tiberiusiv returns
Mar 31 14:06:10 <thestringpuller>	my all time favorite troll
Mar 31 14:06:12 <ChaangNoi>	that is why i asked for link , we can kill 1 at a time
Mar 31 14:06:24 <thestringpuller>	he's better than EskimoBob!!!!
Mar 31 14:06:27 <tiberiusiv>	mircea probably faked last months losses just to keep the bondholders $
Mar 31 14:06:35 <ChaangNoi>	?
Mar 31 14:06:50 <tiberiusiv>	the 27k loss mpex took
Mar 31 14:06:50 <ChaangNoi>	tibersav? i hear aids is bad in nigera
Mar 31 14:07:00 <ChaangNoi>	can i send you some condoms?
Mar 31 14:07:09 <tiberiusiv>	coming from a gook
Mar 31 14:07:16 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: did give some good advice
Mar 31 14:07:20 <ChaangNoi>	condomsare condoms
Mar 31 14:07:25 <thestringpuller>	invest in index funds
Mar 31 14:07:46 <ChaangNoi>	lol tiberslav from mp, awesome
Mar 31 14:07:47 <smickles>	< tiberiusiv> mircea probably faked last months losses just to keep the bondholders $ << are you kidding? the bot is easy to take advantage of when there are movements like last month
Mar 31 14:08:01 <smickles>	eve as a fraud, he would't have to fake it
Mar 31 14:08:07 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav must be a mp troll if he supports him so
Mar 31 14:08:11 <tiberiusiv>	i doubt there was 27k of bets even on there
Mar 31 14:08:15 <smickles>	he'd just have to trade against his bot in the known profitable way
Mar 31 14:08:23 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav why you love mp so??
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Mar 31 14:08:30 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav you a gay nigerian?
Mar 31 14:08:39 <tiberiusiv>	smicles no he wouldnt he could trade anyway he wanted too against the bot since he owns majority of shares/bonds
Mar 31 14:08:45 <benkay>	ChaangNoi why are you so obsessed with homosexuals?
Mar 31 14:08:50 <kakobrekla>	i think mp is paying tiberiusiv
Mar 31 14:08:52 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav you an mp sock pupet?
Mar 31 14:09:02 <ChaangNoi>	bengay im homosex forevar
Mar 31 14:09:04 <tiberiusiv>	bekay hes in thailand.
Mar 31 14:09:12 <tiberiusiv>	bengay*
Mar 31 14:09:21 *	benkay is now known as bengay
Mar 31 14:09:21 <mircea_popescu>	shit
Mar 31 14:09:24 <mircea_popescu>	my evil plan. foiled.
Mar 31 14:09:27 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslave is an mp drone
Mar 31 14:09:29 <smickles>	the jig is up!
Mar 31 14:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	the jig!
Mar 31 14:09:41 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslave lulz
Mar 31 14:09:42 *	bengay is now known as icyhot
Mar 31 14:09:46 <thestringpuller>	YES
Mar 31 14:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	im paying him in kakobrekla cupcakes
Mar 31 14:10:00 <thestringpuller>	"I use icyhot these niggas bengay"
Mar 31 14:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	they do 250 jiggajigz a wait.
Mar 31 14:10:03 <kakobrekla>	hehe lotsa hashes
Mar 31 14:10:16 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Mar 31 14:10:29 <ChaangNoi>	fucking happy zombar day mother fuckerz
Mar 31 14:11:30 <thestringpuller>	icyhot: http://rapgenius.com/926211/Tito-lopez-mama-proud/I-stay-icy-hot-these-niggas-bengay
Mar 31 14:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Mar 31 14:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 81.34382041 / 96.14661174 / 140.1904003 (3745 shares, 1,948.96 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 31 14:12:12 <smickles>	$vwap ^
Mar 31 14:12:14 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 96.14661174 high: 140.1904003 low: 81.34382041 volume: 3745 btc: 1948.9574312 30 day: no data
Mar 31 14:12:17 <smickles>	less keys, same info
Mar 31 14:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	mk the oix is back on track
Mar 31 14:12:51 <ChaangNoi>	i will be honest im shocked we are this high, and even bullish on this long ass weekend
Mar 31 14:12:55 <icyhot>	it's so nice tnat someone besides myself in assets likes shitty rap music
Mar 31 14:12:59 <ChaangNoi>	next week 150?
Mar 31 14:13:08 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi somebody was buying 200 calls.
Mar 31 14:13:12 <thestringpuller>	rap is where it's at yo
Mar 31 14:13:19 <ChaangNoi>	i not shocked
Mar 31 14:13:21 <thestringpuller>	that's how I get all my investment advice is from rappers
Mar 31 14:13:24 <ChaangNoi>	once 100 breaks
Mar 31 14:13:47 <tiberiusiv>	chaangnoi: i dont think we move much from these levels
Mar 31 14:13:49 <icyhot>	haha what's the best investment advice you ever got from a rapper?
Mar 31 14:13:51 <ChaangNoi>	100 after that the first reals resistance is 500
Mar 31 14:13:59 <thestringpuller>	ChaangNoi: you should see the list of businesses that are accepting bitcoin
Mar 31 14:14:01 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav
Mar 31 14:14:03 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Mar 31 14:14:27 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslave iv seen he list of people sending millions to buy btc
Mar 31 14:14:42 <tiberiusiv>	yea but you need millions now to move theprice chaang
Mar 31 14:14:51 <tiberiusiv>	like 1mil moves $2-3
Mar 31 14:14:59 <ChaangNoi>	and i know the way the millions re trending
Mar 31 14:15:10 <ChaangNoi>	tibersalve im a much better troll than you
Mar 31 14:15:18 <tiberiusiv>	i highly doubt theres more price movement
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Mar 31 14:15:22 <ChaangNoi>	im such a good troll the peoopel here think im a memeber
Mar 31 14:15:23 <tiberiusiv>	in very very short time period
Mar 31 14:15:46 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav want to short bt with an escrowed bet?
Mar 31 14:15:47 <tiberiusiv>	+- 20
Mar 31 14:15:54 <tiberiusiv>	no im not bearish
Mar 31 14:15:58 <tiberiusiv>	im bearish on mircea
Mar 31 14:16:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Mar 31 14:16:01 <ChaangNoi>	i haz 1000 btc i could lose
Mar 31 14:16:14 <tiberiusiv>	good for you
Mar 31 14:16:20 <ChaangNoi>	pussy
Mar 31 14:16:32 <thestringpuller>	Why do you hate mircea_popescu tiberiusiv ?
Mar 31 14:16:36 <tiberiusiv>	good spread trade is long BTC short mircrea
Mar 31 14:16:37 <thestringpuller>	He's made a lot of people money.
Mar 31 14:16:49 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslave is a jelly nigerian
Mar 31 14:16:55 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller his losses will be greater then whatever hes made.
Mar 31 14:17:03 <tiberiusiv>	as proved already by the 30% loss he gave to bondholders.
Mar 31 14:17:13 <thestringpuller>	In all seriousness, mathematically that is not the case...
Mar 31 14:17:24 <thestringpuller>	that's only happened in August...
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Mar 31 14:17:28 <tiberiusiv>	how not? so far losses to people have been about 15k btc
Mar 31 14:17:39 <tiberiusiv>	thesgringpuller: it just happend 2 days ago?
Mar 31 14:17:58 <thestringpuller>	that wasn't a nominal loss due to the bullish nature of the volatility...
Mar 31 14:18:01 <tiberiusiv>	mircea lost 27k bitcoins
Mar 31 14:18:19 <thestringpuller>	the btc that were deposited were worth 50-60% less than at the time of the reported "loss"
Mar 31 14:18:25 <tiberiusiv>	his 30day loss is greater then all profits ever generated by his business's
Mar 31 14:18:31 <ChaangNoi>	i wish there was a palce i could buy virgins,,, h wait i need to go ontor
Mar 31 14:18:36 <tiberiusiv>	thestring its still a loss.
Mar 31 14:18:48 <thestringpuller>	you're missing the USD variable...
Mar 31 14:18:50 <tiberiusiv>	dont try and convert to fiat because if you held btc outright youd be up more in fiat.
Mar 31 14:18:56 <tiberiusiv>	there isnt a USD variable.
Mar 31 14:19:16 <tiberiusiv>	if you want to bring in the USD he lost 3million in 30days
Mar 31 14:19:21 <tiberiusiv>	pirate did 5million in 6months.
Mar 31 14:19:41 <tiberiusiv>	mirceas losses are greater then all of his profits in the last 12months+ combined.
Mar 31 14:19:44 <tiberiusiv>	thats fact not fiction
Mar 31 14:19:45 <ChaangNoi>	where is mp? he should bring out his bitches or whips
Mar 31 14:19:58 <thestringpuller>	1 million of that was his own money...
Mar 31 14:20:02 <thestringpuller>	if not more
Mar 31 14:20:07 <tiberiusiv>	total losses surpassed any profits
Mar 31 14:20:15 <tiberiusiv>	look what mpex made last month 300btc
Mar 31 14:20:17 <thestringpuller>	couldn't you say the same about the FED?
Mar 31 14:20:29 <ChaangNoi>	mp you haz more "meatinz"today?
Mar 31 14:20:29 <tiberiusiv>	that means close to 10 years of mpex profits
Mar 31 14:20:31 <thestringpuller>	The FED does nothing but lose money...yet you still depend on them.
Mar 31 14:20:32 <tiberiusiv>	to make up what he lost
Mar 31 14:20:42 <tiberiusiv>	huh?
Mar 31 14:20:46 <tiberiusiv>	dont change the topic
Mar 31 14:20:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0043 BTC [+]
Mar 31 14:20:54 <thestringpuller>	The FED prints 89bn a day
Mar 31 14:20:56 <tiberiusiv>	he lost in 30days MORE then 12months+ of combined profits of all his ventures.
Mar 31 14:20:59 <tiberiusiv>	that is BAD risk management
Mar 31 14:21:22 <tiberiusiv>	and the worst part is with his ego, he refuses to acknowledge a mistake for the future
Mar 31 14:21:26 <tiberiusiv>	so thats a recipe for disaster
Mar 31 14:21:27 <thestringpuller>	dude Travelers Property casualty lost 1bn the month after Katrina in 2004
Mar 31 14:21:33 <thestringpuller>	and that was AFTER screwing people out of flood insurance
Mar 31 14:21:38 <tiberiusiv>	so?
Mar 31 14:21:49 <tiberiusiv>	1bn is nothing relative to their decades of profits
Mar 31 14:21:50 <thestringpuller>	when a "disaster hits" insurance is going to lose money
Mar 31 14:21:54 <tiberiusiv>	mircea doesnt have profits
Mar 31 14:22:04 <thestringpuller>	the only other option is to build an investment house of cards and distribute the exposure elsewhere
Mar 31 14:22:11 <ChaangNoi>	i don even know how to pm in this mac
Mar 31 14:22:12 <tiberiusiv>	yes his losses are MULTITUDES his profits
Mar 31 14:22:13 <thestringpuller>	I feel like you're missing the true purpose/value of MPOE
Mar 31 14:22:21 <tiberiusiv>	he cant earn it back fast. thats what you dont understand, he refuses to admit his risk model is broken.
Mar 31 14:22:35 *	awkorama1 is now known as awkorama
Mar 31 14:22:35 <tiberiusiv>	from having such a high ego.
Mar 31 14:22:36 <thestringpuller>	that's like saying the risk model of ALL insurance is broken
Mar 31 14:22:43 <tiberiusiv>	nope they are hedged
Mar 31 14:22:46 <tiberiusiv>	with huge premium income
Mar 31 14:22:47 <thestringpuller>	no they aren't
Mar 31 14:22:50 <tiberiusiv>	which mircea doesnt have
Mar 31 14:22:52 <thestringpuller>	NO THEY AREN'T
Mar 31 14:22:58 <tiberiusiv>	nobody INSURES against FINANCIAL movements and lasts
Mar 31 14:23:11 <thestringpuller>	yes if your name is usagi
Mar 31 14:23:12 <tiberiusiv>	not a single company has survived insuring against derivatives.
Mar 31 14:23:34 <thestringpuller>	and again you go on to list AIG among other companies
Mar 31 14:23:38 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is insuring against one of the most volatile assets ever thats in infant stages
Mar 31 14:23:49 <tiberiusiv>	this isnt a mature market.
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Mar 31 14:24:09 <tiberiusiv>	hes an idiot end of story. his 27k of losses are evidence to that.
Mar 31 14:24:09 <thestringpuller>	;;gribble
Mar 31 14:24:23 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav how much is mp paying you?
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Mar 31 14:24:38 <thestringpuller>	seconded
Mar 31 14:24:46 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Mar 31 14:24:54 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Mar 31 14:25:02 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Mar 31 14:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 335 @ 1.45892277 = 488.7391 BTC [+]
Mar 31 14:25:15 <ChaangNoi>	!gribble you is my bitch
Mar 31 14:25:31 <gribble>	There are currently 34838375 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9790953.35954 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0187 seconds
Mar 31 14:25:31 <thestringpuller>	Look at Bugpowder buying puts
Mar 31 14:25:39 <Bugpowder>	never buy puts
Mar 31 14:25:46 <Bugpowder>	Rule #1
Mar 31 14:25:51 <ChaangNoi>	did you all know johney walker wells platnium whisky now?
Mar 31 14:25:54 <ChaangNoi>	hahhhahhaha
Mar 31 14:26:05 <ChaangNoi>	bug you is a rish mofo
Mar 31 14:26:11 <thestringpuller>	I made the highest returns on puts
Mar 31 14:26:26 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: is a neuroscientist, he is rich regardless...
Mar 31 14:26:31 <Bugpowder>	lol
Mar 31 14:26:35 <Bugpowder>	science does not pay well
Mar 31 14:26:37 <ChaangNoi>	bug made like 1 million usd in a month
Mar 31 14:26:39 <thestringpuller>	LIES
Mar 31 14:26:45 <thestringpuller>	Science never fails!!!!!
Mar 31 14:26:46 <Bugpowder>	loise
Mar 31 14:26:48 <Bugpowder>	lise
Mar 31 14:26:50 <Bugpowder>	lies
Mar 31 14:26:56 <ChaangNoi>	buggggg....
Mar 31 14:27:06 <ChaangNoi>	wasit 2 million?
Mar 31 14:27:14 <ChaangNoi>	3mil?
Mar 31 14:27:17 <ChaangNoi>	4?
Mar 31 14:27:19 <Bugpowder>	I would have made that if I had put in my whole nut, rather than 105
Mar 31 14:27:21 <Bugpowder>	10%
Mar 31 14:27:30 <ChaangNoi>	?
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Mar 31 14:27:55 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: Diablo-D3 is banned from channel and wants to be let back in
Mar 31 14:27:58 <ChaangNoi>	sorry
Mar 31 14:28:05 <Bugpowder>	This is a new month though... and the gox backlog is up to 8500
Mar 31 14:28:08 <ChaangNoi>	i flip out in usd and thai baht
Mar 31 14:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	apparently science can't speal.
Mar 31 14:28:40 <ChaangNoi>	mp lol
Mar 31 14:28:54 <ChaangNoi>	not spealing is my tradmark
Mar 31 14:29:11 <ChaangNoi>	it is the only way the cia can track me
Mar 31 14:29:21 <Bugpowder>	I have made about as much in bitcoins as I have in my entire career as a scientist (true story)
Mar 31 14:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	did we just hit red ?
Mar 31 14:29:47 <ChaangNoi>	bug what you do real life?
Mar 31 14:29:51 <thestringpuller>	So Bugpowder why not create a TV show
Mar 31 14:29:55 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder the science guy
Mar 31 14:30:02 <thestringpuller>	or something that rhymes
Mar 31 14:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	because only retards are on tv?
Mar 31 14:30:21 <ChaangNoi>	im not kidding or trolling, bug just pm me
Mar 31 14:30:35 <thestringpuller>	has Havelock paid HIM div's yet?
Mar 31 14:30:46 <ChaangNoi>	lol mo i was on tv once
Mar 31 14:30:57 <ChaangNoi>	for national usa chess
Mar 31 14:30:57 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=162481.msg1710496#msg1710496
Mar 31 14:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	the other jig is up
Mar 31 14:31:20 <ChaangNoi>	fucking a
Mar 31 14:31:26 <ChaangNoi>	fucking mac
Mar 31 14:31:34 <ChaangNoi>	i clik nothing
Mar 31 14:31:56 <ChaangNoi>	i dont knw how to open that link in a mac
Mar 31 14:32:19 <thestringpuller>	if mtgox crashes we all lose
Mar 31 14:32:27 <thestringpuller>	HOW WILL WE SELL ARE COIN?
Mar 31 14:32:30 <jurov>	goat, right click? lol
Mar 31 14:32:53 <ChaangNoi>	jurov no
Mar 31 14:32:55 <ChaangNoi>	fail
Mar 31 14:33:09 <ChaangNoi>	im pro all os
Mar 31 14:33:17 <ChaangNoi>	i can get it to work
Mar 31 14:33:20 <ChaangNoi>	cant
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Mar 31 14:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 is banned ?!
Mar 31 14:33:35 <ChaangNoi>	from what?
Mar 31 14:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller's weak trolling omg
Mar 31 14:33:56 <thestringpuller>	I'm not rolling
Mar 31 14:33:57 <ChaangNoi>	?
Mar 31 14:33:59 <thestringpuller>	he messaged me
Mar 31 14:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.06 BTC [+]
Mar 31 14:34:07 <thestringpuller>	14:26 <Diablo-D3> Im banned in #bitcoin-assets
Mar 31 14:34:07 <thestringpuller>	14:26 <Diablo-D3> ask assbot's owner to fix this
Mar 31 14:34:08 <thestringpuller>	14:27 <thestringpuller> What did you do?
Mar 31 14:34:08 <thestringpuller>	14:27 <Diablo-D3> nothing
Mar 31 14:34:08 <thestringpuller>	14:27 <thestringpuller> and why are you asking me instead of kakobrekla?
Mar 31 14:34:08 <ChaangNoi>	??
Mar 31 14:34:10 <thestringpuller>	14:27 <Diablo-D3> because this needs to be said in channel and you're available =P
Mar 31 14:34:21 <thestringpuller>	BOOM
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Mar 31 14:34:25 <thestringpuller>	I'm not trolling
Mar 31 14:34:26 <ChaangNoi>	kako you ban d3?
Mar 31 14:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	um
Mar 31 14:34:47 <ChaangNoi>	kako if so why?
Mar 31 14:35:10 <jurov>	<assbot> [21:56:10] spam detected
Mar 31 14:35:27 <mircea_popescu>	o his fix it flood huh
Mar 31 14:35:31 <ChaangNoi>	so random bat?
Mar 31 14:35:31 <jurov>	d3 freaked out several lines earlier
Mar 31 14:35:44 <ChaangNoi>	freaked out = ban?
Mar 31 14:36:01 <jurov>	i'm curious what kako says, too
Mar 31 14:36:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00064772 = 5.6676 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 14:37:58 <tiberiusiv>	hi jurov
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Mar 31 14:39:11 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 31 14:39:12 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 31 14:39:22 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 31 14:39:23 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Mar 31 14:39:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.30000, Best ask: 92.39999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 92.30000, 24 hour volume: 18678.78024216, 24 hour low: 90.50000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.42069
Mar 31 14:42:00 <smickles>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 31 14:42:00 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 31 14:42:05 <smickles>	what?
Mar 31 14:42:15 <smickles>	nanotube: what happened to bc,24hprc?
Mar 31 14:43:44 <damientrog>	anyone care to explain the semantics of these puts on USD or tell me where I can find the info?
Mar 31 14:44:03 <smickles>	damientrog: i can help
Mar 31 14:44:10 <damientrog>	great
Mar 31 14:44:11 <smickles>	give me an example one, i'll explain it
Mar 31 14:44:24 <damientrog>	O.USD.P050T
Mar 31 14:45:13 <smickles>	1 put contract for 1 btc expiring april 19 (last friday 'this' month), struck at 50 usd
Mar 31 14:45:47 <smickles>	the time it expires is the last second of the last minute of the day
Mar 31 14:46:34 <damientrog>	so what are the returns when that happens?
Mar 31 14:47:44 <smickles>	it returns 'spot' - strike in btc, if that is a positive amount
Mar 31 14:47:56 <jurov>	damientrog, https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/call-option-calculation/msg2445/#msg2445
Mar 31 14:48:03 <jurov>	^ i did a cheatsheet
Mar 31 14:48:34 <damientrog>	ah thanks guys, I want to understand what just happend to mc losing all that fortune
Mar 31 14:48:40 <smickles>	I say 'spot', because mepx use the weighted, all market 24h average
Mar 31 14:50:47 <damientrog>	ah jurov, you're the owner of coinbr, nice to see the owners here of the exchanges, or fronts thereof
Mar 31 14:50:54 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 31 14:51:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.30000, Best ask: 92.48298, Bid-ask spread: 0.18298, Last trade: 92.30000, 24 hour volume: 18458.17378448, 24 hour low: 90.50000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.44477
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Mar 31 14:54:19 <smickles>	;;calc .2242/.2022
Mar 31 14:54:19 <gribble>	1.10880316518
Mar 31 14:54:37 <smickles>	damn, mpoebot is offering a 10% better price than soebot
Mar 31 14:57:04 <nanotube>	smickles: use avgprc
Mar 31 14:57:08 <nanotube>	;;help avgprc
Mar 31 14:57:09 <damientrog>	so you're betting on the value of btc with btc, the sooner you call or put on a value the better deal you can make
Mar 31 14:57:09 <gribble>	(avgprc <currency> <timeframe>) -- Returns volume-weighted average price data from MtGox. <currency> is a three-letter currency code, <timeframe> is the time window for the average, and can be '24h', '7d', or '30d'.
Mar 31 14:57:16 <thestringpuller>	;;avgprc
Mar 31 14:57:16 <gribble>	(avgprc <currency> <timeframe>) -- Returns volume-weighted average price data from MtGox. <currency> is a three-letter currency code, <timeframe> is the time window for the average, and can be '24h', '7d', or '30d'.
Mar 31 14:57:22 <thestringpuller>	;;avgprc usd 24
Mar 31 14:57:23 <smickles>	nanotube: there's a problem with that
Mar 31 14:57:25 <nanotube>	;;avgprc usd 24hh
Mar 31 14:57:28 <thestringpuller>	;;avgprc usd 24h
Mar 31 14:57:28 <gribble>	Error: Data not available. Available currencies are SLL, USD, AUD, CHF, SEK, RUB, CNY, JPY, XRP, BRL, ILS, GBP, NZD, SGD, PLN, EUR, DKK, THB, HKD, CAD, and available timeframes are 24h, 7d, 30d.
Mar 31 14:57:33 <gribble>	Error: Data not available. Available currencies are SLL, USD, AUD, CHF, SEK, RUB, CNY, JPY, XRP, BRL, ILS, GBP, NZD, SGD, PLN, EUR, DKK, THB, HKD, CAD, and available timeframes are 24h, 7d, 30d.
Mar 31 14:57:37 <nanotube>	>_>
Mar 31 14:57:38 <gribble>	92.33
Mar 31 14:57:41 <thestringpuller>	XD
Mar 31 14:57:44 <thestringpuller>	LOLOL
Mar 31 14:57:49 <smickles>	nanotube: mpex uses the whole market weighted average, not just gox
Mar 31 14:58:03 <jurov>	;;bc,24hprc
Mar 31 14:58:03 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hprc" is not a valid command.
Mar 31 14:58:16 <nanotube>	smickles: well, bc,24hprc was from bitcoincharts, as is avgprc. same datafeed
Mar 31 14:58:20 <nanotube>	USD is for all USD markets
Mar 31 14:58:28 <nanotube>	and bc,24hprc was only for USD markets
Mar 31 14:58:47 <jurov>	what is the difference, again?
Mar 31 14:58:49 <smickles>	nanotube: ah, so it's the same thing :)
Mar 31 14:58:55 <nanotube>	smickles: yep :)
Mar 31 14:59:02 <nanotube>	same data, different command style
Mar 31 14:59:14 <smickles>	when i say 'whole marke' i meant 'all usd exchanges on bitcoincharts'
Mar 31 14:59:19 <nanotube>	right :)
Mar 31 14:59:35 <smickles>	;;avgprc USD 24h
Mar 31 14:59:41 <gribble>	92.33
Mar 31 14:59:48 <jurov>	;;avgprc EUR 24h
Mar 31 14:59:54 <gribble>	73.68
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Mar 31 15:00:25 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Mar 31 15:00:28 <mpexbot>	smickles: 471
Mar 31 15:00:40 <smickles>	wow, lowest i've seen that in a while
Mar 31 15:00:48 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Mar 31 15:00:56 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 228959 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 864 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7351382.69866 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.79052
Mar 31 15:00:58 <thestringpuller>	what's uncofirmed mean?
Mar 31 15:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.601 BTC [-]
Mar 31 15:01:12 <smickles>	unconfirmed txns on the network
Mar 31 15:01:15 <thestringpuller>	ah
Mar 31 15:02:29 <thestringpuller>	I love this wiki page: On 16 March 2013, a bank run began in the Republic of Cyprus after a proposed 'tax' was to be imposed on 19th March 2013. 6.7% of all assets under .100,000 were to be seized and 9.9% of all those above. Many members of the public decided to remove their money rather than pay for an economic crisis they had not caused.
Mar 31 15:02:30 <Bugpowder>	damientrog: You don't necessarily get a better return by buying early.  There is a time * volatility premium built into the mpoebot's pricing model, that decays as expiration approaches.  Typically the way you can get the highest leverage and returns are when buying options just before expiration followed by a big move
Mar 31 15:02:59 <damientrog>	ah, so the price is entirely decided by the bot
Mar 31 15:03:19 <smickles>	thestringpuller: that's so NPOV
Mar 31 15:03:23 <damientrog>	or are options traded amongst the market as well?
Mar 31 15:03:39 <jurov>	damientrog, you can write own options and sell them at any proice you want
Mar 31 15:04:02 <jurov>	but so far nobody managed to match mpoebot's volume
Mar 31 15:04:13 <smickles>	for example, look at the strikes, around 86 to 92
Mar 31 15:04:16 <damientrog>	so if I now make a bid lower than the ask price it will either be bought when somebody sells his options or the bot lowers his price
Mar 31 15:04:18 <Bugpowder>	nothing is stopping someone from pricing mid market.  But nobody has the capital to match the bot's volume
Mar 31 15:04:28 <Bugpowder>	correct
Mar 31 15:04:32 <thestringpuller>	smickles: NPOV?
Mar 31 15:04:34 <smickles>	i'm offering some, but i don't have the capital for mpoebot's volume
Mar 31 15:04:37 <damientrog>	.. anymore :)
Mar 31 15:04:48 <thestringpuller>	oh neutral point of view
Mar 31 15:05:01 <thestringpuller>	dude this page is awesome
Mar 31 15:05:03 <smickles>	thestringpuller: it's wikipedia's claim that they hold a Neutral Point Of View
Mar 31 15:05:18 <damientrog>	thanks for the help, now I understand
Mar 31 15:05:20 <thestringpuller>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bank_runs - it's almost as funny as reading about Action Park
Mar 31 15:07:09 <thestringpuller>	People complain about Bitcoin but seriously...this page
Mar 31 15:07:42 <smickles>	thestringpuller: basically, wikipedia is ok until you actually consider the content
Mar 31 15:08:31 <thestringpuller>	true but I remember the Wachovia and WaMu failures.
Mar 31 15:08:42 <thestringpuller>	NEVER FORGET
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Mar 31 15:10:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0043 = 0.0086 BTC [+]
Mar 31 15:13:50 <jurov>	O.o srsly? http://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/1bcku1/my_hands_have_become_callused_and_rough_from/
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Mar 31 15:22:45 <smickles>	some people
Mar 31 15:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 5 @ 1.45685701 = 7.2843 BTC [-]
Mar 31 15:26:52 <Bugpowder>	tomorrow break 100?
Mar 31 15:27:05 <ThickAsThieves>	iffy
Mar 31 15:27:13 <Bugpowder>	tomrrow hit 998
Mar 31 15:27:14 <Bugpowder>	98
Mar 31 15:27:16 <Bugpowder>	?
Mar 31 15:27:29 <ThickAsThieves>	iffy
Mar 31 15:27:37 <Bugpowder>	tomorrow hit 95?
Mar 31 15:27:41 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 31 15:27:53 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to kakobrekla
Mar 31 15:28:11 *	kakobrekla removes ban on *!*@pool-70-16-109-241.port.east.myfairpoint.net
Mar 31 15:28:24 *	kakobrekla removes channel operator status from kakobrekla
Mar 31 15:28:49 <smickles>	kakobrekla: that was a funny ban
Mar 31 15:30:12 <smickles>	;;ticker
Mar 31 15:30:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.98999, Best ask: 93.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01001, Last trade: 93.00000, 24 hour volume: 17860.78532294, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.51072
Mar 31 15:31:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i think we'll hover under 100 for a few days then start rising again
Mar 31 15:31:49 <ThickAsThieves>	like when we broke 50
Mar 31 15:32:08 <smickles>	;;calc 200/1.16799
Mar 31 15:32:09 <gribble>	171.23434276
Mar 31 15:32:49 <smickles>	;;calc 200/1.4568
Mar 31 15:32:49 <gribble>	137.287204833
Mar 31 15:32:57 <Bugpowder>	jesus we were at 30 on March 1st?
Mar 31 15:33:22 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Mar 31 15:33:54 <ThickAsThieves>	possibly get another sell off before 100, with a temporary 10% dip
Mar 31 15:34:30 <smickles>	;;(200-90)/90
Mar 31 15:34:30 <gribble>	Error: "(200-90)/90" is not a valid command.
Mar 31 15:34:37 <smickles>	;;calc (200-90)/90
Mar 31 15:34:37 <gribble>	1.22222222222
Mar 31 15:37:18 <smickles>	;;calc 200/2.4568
Mar 31 15:37:19 <gribble>	81.4067079127
Mar 31 15:37:19 -RichiH-	[Global Notice] Hi all! Please see https://blog.freenode.net/2013/03/insert-witty-title-here/ or https://plus.google.com/104326727082310562426/posts/bBmTomwNsBU as you will all kill the blog with your dDoS, anyway.
Mar 31 15:37:36 <smickles>	ah, no efin wonder
Mar 31 15:38:25 <smickles>	;;calc 200/2.16799
Mar 31 15:38:25 <gribble>	92.2513480228
Mar 31 15:39:21 <Diablo-D3>	!ticker
Mar 31 15:39:22 <assbot>	Your actions are useless.
Mar 31 15:39:25 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Mar 31 15:39:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.98999, Best ask: 92.99998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 92.98999, 24 hour volume: 17963.33825555, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.51548
Mar 31 15:40:13 <Bugpowder>	well, if the current trends hold, we will be above 200 in 2 weeks :)
Mar 31 15:40:27 <KRS1>	whats quickets/safest way to buy btc with usd
Mar 31 15:40:33 <KRS1>	i used to use dwolla/gox
Mar 31 15:40:35 <Bugpowder>	localbitcoins
Mar 31 15:40:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8317 @ 0.00064626 = 5.3749 BTC [-]
Mar 31 15:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 513 @ 0.00063719 = 0.3269 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 15:41:36 <KRS1>	oh nice
Mar 31 15:43:08 <KRS1>	ah this aint gonna work
Mar 31 15:43:10 <KRS1>	any other way
Mar 31 15:44:45 <ThickAsThieves>	dont use campx, i can tell you that
Mar 31 15:44:55 <thestringpuller>	campbx?
Mar 31 15:45:00 <thestringpuller>	what's wrong with campbx?
Mar 31 15:45:37 <ThickAsThieves>	took 3 weeks to deposit my btc, lost out on about a $3000USD price rise
Mar 31 15:45:57 <ThickAsThieves>	that was about the third delay i had with them
Mar 31 15:46:11 <ThickAsThieves>	the others didnt really cost me anything other than frustration
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Mar 31 15:47:02 <ThickAsThieves>	not deposit my btc, sorry, deposit my USD
Mar 31 15:49:06 <thestringpuller>	I have no trouble with CampBx then again I'm from Atlanta so I guess they like the local support of mah money
Mar 31 15:52:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01959 BTC [+]
Mar 31 15:52:28 <KRS1>	i want to buy with cash/atm
Mar 31 15:52:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.011 = 0.033 BTC [+]
Mar 31 15:52:52 <KRS1>	i have to make up for some bad trades a few weeks ago
Mar 31 15:54:56 <smickles>	KRS1: have you tried #bitcoin-otc?
Mar 31 15:55:38 <KRS1>	yeaaah..i was thinking that..idk
Mar 31 15:55:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.771994 BTC [-]
Mar 31 15:57:24 <smickles>	for me, using -otc is like fishing
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Mar 31 15:58:20 <ThickAsThieves>	sometimes you get a boot?
Mar 31 16:03:37 <smickles>	well, i bait my hook and put it out there. if after a day of trying, i still haven't caught anything, I go to the market instead.
Mar 31 16:04:23 <smickles>	though, in the case of actual fishing, it's been years since I haven't caught a fish within an hour of trying
Mar 31 16:05:00 <smickles>	but you wouldn't know that unless i told you, so it's still a good analogy
Mar 31 16:05:03 <smickles>	:D
Mar 31 16:05:16 <jurov>	anyone wants to (re)invest to MPOE bonds passthrough? 1 hour left.
Mar 31 16:08:15 <awkorama>	till what ?
Mar 31 16:11:11 <thestringpuller>	DUDE
Mar 31 16:11:37 <thestringpuller>	TIL that the guy who won the 2011 nobel prize in economics thinks there should be 17 tillion in QE
Mar 31 16:11:38 <smickles>	SWEET
Mar 31 16:12:13 <thestringpuller>	Paul Krugman
Mar 31 16:12:17 <thestringpuller>	This guy is insane.
Mar 31 16:12:21 <thestringpuller>	Fuck dis guy
Mar 31 16:12:32 <smickles>	thestringpuller: the current mainstream view is that the economic problems will be soothed by printing lots of money
Mar 31 16:12:49 <thestringpuller>	None of that printed money is in the market yet.
Mar 31 16:12:57 <thestringpuller>	So what happens when it flows into the actual economy?
Mar 31 16:12:58 <smickles>	oft cited example is the depressions staved off by people mining gold while we were on the gold standard
Mar 31 16:13:17 <thestringpuller>	The money supply has grown 300%
Mar 31 16:13:39 <smickles>	basically, the idea is to inflate during economic downturns
Mar 31 16:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [-]
Mar 31 16:14:06 <smickles>	that way, people spend money faster, and eventually you get thru the downturn
Mar 31 16:15:05 <smickles>	whereas, if you didn't inflate the money, people would not spend as much or as fast, and the downturn would get significantly worse
Mar 31 16:15:19 <thestringpuller>	but what if we see real inflation?
Mar 31 16:15:23 <thestringpuller>	like 10-20%
Mar 31 16:15:29 <smickles>	that's what they want
Mar 31 16:15:36 <thestringpuller>	To rob us?
Mar 31 16:15:43 <smickles>	normal inflation is ~5%
Mar 31 16:15:52 <thestringpuller>	UGH
Mar 31 16:15:54 <smickles>	downturn inflation is upwards of 10%
Mar 31 16:16:24 <smickles>	and if the economy is doing really f-ing good, <5%
Mar 31 16:16:32 <smickles>	to slow those fuckers down
Mar 31 16:16:36 <thestringpuller>	this seems iffy I am being told at 10% inflation
Mar 31 16:16:41 <thestringpuller>	treasury bonds lose half their value
Mar 31 16:17:13 <smickles>	well, they don't want you to buy those bonds during a downturn
Mar 31 16:17:31 <smickles>	they want you to buy them when all is good after the downturn
Mar 31 16:18:03 <smickles>	during the dwonturn, they don't want you to save or invest, they want you to spend
Mar 31 16:18:24 <smickles>	and 'you' is the rich people, prolly not really you
Mar 31 16:18:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00063325 = 5.6359 BTC [-]
Mar 31 16:18:58 <thestringpuller>	the case you are presenting me makes me want to put all my money into bitcoin
Mar 31 16:19:41 <smickles>	well, bitcoin might be a little risky for that
Mar 31 16:19:50 <Diablo-D3>	just ran the dividends for DMC
Mar 31 16:20:00 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1711100#msg1711100
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Mar 31 16:31:57 <bitessak>	;;ticker
Mar 31 16:32:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.10001, Best ask: 93.10500, Bid-ask spread: 0.00499, Last trade: 93.10001, 24 hour volume: 19029.16932908, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.57267
Mar 31 16:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 2.02 = 12.12 BTC [-]
Mar 31 16:33:12 <bitessak>	https://twitter.com/joerogan/status/317526394575917056
Mar 31 16:33:29 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Mar 31 16:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 2.01 = 18.09 BTC [-]
Mar 31 16:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 25 @ 2 = 50 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 16:37:00 <smickles>	$moo
Mar 31 16:37:01 <mpexbot>	smickles: It's starting to sound like Wal-Mart in here
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Mar 31 16:37:48 <kakobrekla>	a billion dollar market
Mar 31 16:37:54 <kakobrekla>	witch charts and graphs and all
Mar 31 16:37:58 <kakobrekla>	dont forget.
Mar 31 16:39:31 <thestringpuller>	people are dumping HIM oh no
Mar 31 16:39:37 <thestringpuller>	post dividend hit
Mar 31 16:42:19 <KRS1>	asicminer looks profitable from what i am seeing..i dont have much info on them but seems ok
Mar 31 16:42:26 <KRS1>	are they still selling shares
Mar 31 16:42:44 <Diablo-D3>	no
Mar 31 16:43:01 <thestringpuller>	you can probably get passthru on Bitfunder
Mar 31 16:43:08 <jurov>	KRS1: shares are reseller ehre for example: https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.ASICMINER-PT
Mar 31 16:43:13 <jurov>	*reselled here
Mar 31 16:43:20 <Diablo-D3>	I dont recommend passthroughs
Mar 31 16:43:24 <Diablo-D3>	passthrough owners cannot be trusted
Mar 31 16:43:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 27 @ 0.003099 = 0.0837 BTC [+]
Mar 31 16:43:37 <KRS1>	yeah i heard mixed things about bitfunder
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Mar 31 16:43:50 <kakobrekla>	while yourself being sort of pt Diablo-D3
Mar 31 16:43:52 <jurov>	such as?
Mar 31 16:44:10 <jurov>	bitfunder is one thing, asset issuers on it are completely another
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Mar 31 16:44:30 <KRS1>	ohh i see yeah it was a resller on bitfunder i take that back
Mar 31 16:44:37 <KRS1>	now i remember better thanks
Mar 31 16:44:40 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: not really
Mar 31 16:44:53 <kakobrekla>	DMC Assets held:
Mar 31 16:44:53 <kakobrekla>	106 BTC-MINING
Mar 31 16:44:53 <kakobrekla>	1000 BTCMC
Mar 31 16:44:53 <kakobrekla>	1000 ASICMINER
Mar 31 16:44:57 <kakobrekla>	--
Mar 31 16:45:02 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: seeing as DMC is shutting down to fix the problem nefario caused, nope.
Mar 31 16:45:04 <kakobrekla>	its a fuckin pt mixup.
Mar 31 16:45:20 <thestringpuller>	DMC is shutting down?
Mar 31 16:45:25 <thestringpuller>	what happened to your billion dollar plan?
Mar 31 16:45:35 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: million, and its becoming a 200 million dollar plan
Mar 31 16:45:37 <Diablo-D3>	see the notice in the op
Mar 31 16:45:44 <thestringpuller>	nah I'm too lazy
Mar 31 16:45:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.771994 = 6.9479 BTC [-]
Mar 31 16:45:53 <thestringpuller>	direct links please
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Mar 31 16:46:23 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1711100#msg1711100
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Mar 31 16:46:31 <Diablo-D3>	er wrong post
Mar 31 16:46:47 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg861305#msg861305
Mar 31 16:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.61 = 1.83 BTC [+]
Mar 31 16:49:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.771995 = 1.544 BTC [+]
Mar 31 16:49:15 <jurov>	not very cool. was hoping for abandoned cold war installation or such
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Mar 31 16:49:42 <jurov>	like, DC with nuclear lauch capability on site :)
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Mar 31 16:51:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000649 = 0.0065 BTC [+]
Mar 31 16:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.614888 = 11.6829 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 16:55:46 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: we may actually HAVE one up here in maine
Mar 31 16:55:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+]
Mar 31 16:56:01 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: might buy it as a tape storage vault, really
Mar 31 16:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.61488 = 1.2298 BTC [-]
Mar 31 16:58:52 <Diablo-D3>	but yeah, I cant wait until I can start phase 2
Mar 31 16:59:10 <Diablo-D3>	it'll drive BTC up to $1000
Mar 31 17:00:59 <kakobrekla>	O_o
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Mar 31 17:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 17:35:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 24 @ 0.378 = 9.072 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 17:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00062903 = 9.5613 BTC [-]
Mar 31 17:37:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.772 = 2.316 BTC [+]
Mar 31 17:37:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77495 BTC [+]
Mar 31 17:37:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77695 BTC [+]
Mar 31 17:38:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.777 = 4.662 BTC [+]
Mar 31 17:38:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 17:43:35 <thestringpuller>	Did I just see someone dump MPOE stock then put it into ASICMINER...?
Mar 31 17:44:09 <ThickAsThieves>	how dare they
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Mar 31 17:47:58 <PsychoticBoy>	good choice
Mar 31 17:48:19 <PsychoticBoy>	although I would not buy asicminer either
Mar 31 17:48:32 <PsychoticBoy>	not for .77
Mar 31 17:48:39 <thestringpuller>	it is too high
Mar 31 17:48:47 <thestringpuller>	What about KLIM?
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Mar 31 17:48:51 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h KLIM
Mar 31 17:48:54 <assbot>	Your actions are useless.
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Mar 31 17:49:11 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h KCIM
Mar 31 17:49:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:KCIM] 1D: 1.00000100 / 1.09894165 / 1.20900000 (17 shares, 18.68200800 BTC), 7D: 0.99500000 / 1.10475013 / 1.25000000 (60 shares, 66.28500800 BTC), 30D: 0.95500000 / 1.13694272 / 1.48000000 (161 shares, 183.04777800 BTC)
Mar 31 17:49:44 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Mar 31 17:49:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.00000000 / 2.00872727 / 2.08000000 (55 shares, 110.48000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.79371529 / 2.08000000 (242 shares, 434.07910099 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.77995476 / 2.08000000 (757 shares, 1347.42575265 BTC)
Mar 31 17:49:46 <jurov>	thestringpuller: if they managed to teleport btcs from mpex to btct
Mar 31 17:50:08 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Mar 31 17:50:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062903 / 0.00065976 / 0.00068374 (620725 shares, 409.54 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.00065759 / 0.00068374 (2521551 shares, 1,658.15 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.00072825 / 0.00078628 (18137686 shares, 13,208.90 BTC)
Mar 31 17:53:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0025 BTC [-]
Mar 31 17:54:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 8 @ 0.00204 = 0.0163 BTC [-]
Mar 31 17:54:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00203 BTC [-]
Mar 31 17:54:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.00203 = 0.0041 BTC [-]
Mar 31 17:55:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 88 @ 0.002012 = 0.1771 BTC [-]
Mar 31 17:56:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.0006321 = 7.6168 BTC [+]
Mar 31 17:56:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00063663 = 0.573 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 18:00:58 <pizzaman1337>	;;asks 99.999
Mar 31 18:01:05 <gribble>	There are currently 24624.678 bitcoins offered at or under 99.999 USD, worth 2377593.73016 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
Mar 31 18:01:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Mar 31 18:01:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00062903 = 6.2588 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 18:08:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
Mar 31 18:10:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1599 = 0.4797 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 18:25:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:25:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 18:25:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:26:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:26:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:26:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 17 @ 0.2 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:26:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:27:11 <KRS1>	pizzaman what to you think about the poss of a sell at $99-$100
Mar 31 18:30:05 <pizzaman1337>	should hit that sooner or later
Mar 31 18:31:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 150 @ 0.002012 = 0.3018 BTC [-]
Mar 31 18:32:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2699 = 1.3495 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:32:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.27999 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:32:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.28 = 2.8 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:35:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7789 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00419786 = 2.0989 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 18:42:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7789 = 1.5578 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.444 = 1.332 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:49:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00419787 = 4.1979 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:50:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00419788 = 5.6671 BTC [+]
Mar 31 18:52:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1915 @ 0.00062903 = 1.2046 BTC [-]
Mar 31 18:52:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4062 @ 0.00062878 = 2.5541 BTC [-]
Mar 31 18:52:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062244 = 4.3882 BTC [-]
Mar 31 18:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.443 = 1.329 BTC [-]
Mar 31 19:02:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 19:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00060871 = 4.5653 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 19:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [-]
Mar 31 19:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.58 = 9.28 BTC [-]
Mar 31 19:27:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 19:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.61 = 1.22 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 19:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 38 @ 0.61 = 23.18 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 19:49:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77891 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 19:51:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8810 @ 0.00060101 = 5.2949 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 20:14:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7756 @ 0.00060871 = 4.7212 BTC [+]
Mar 31 20:24:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 750 @ 0.002012 = 1.509 BTC [-]
Mar 31 20:25:53 <MJR_III>	hey guys
Mar 31 20:25:58 <MJR_III>	anyone around?
Mar 31 20:26:08 *	smickles is coding
Mar 31 20:26:40 <MJR_III>	smickles: perfect
Mar 31 20:26:44 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Mar 31 20:26:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.01000, Best ask: 93.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.33999, Last trade: 93.01000, 24 hour volume: 21283.09036066, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.70860
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Mar 31 20:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.446 = 2.23 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 20:31:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779999 BTC [+]
Mar 31 20:32:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 150 @ 0.0019999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
Mar 31 20:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 9850 @ 0.00201395 = 19.8374 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 20:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00060871 = 20.5744 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 20:53:16 <MJR_III>	smickles: have you played around with socket.io?
Mar 31 20:54:59 <thestringpuller>	socket.io is lame
Mar 31 20:55:05 <MJR_III>	tell me about it
Mar 31 20:55:06 <thestringpuller>	!ticker H HIM
Mar 31 20:55:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.00000000 / 2.00872727 / 2.08000000 (55 shares, 110.48000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.79371529 / 2.08000000 (242 shares, 434.07910099 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.77995476 / 2.08000000 (757 shares, 1347.42575265 BTC)
Mar 31 20:55:15 <MJR_III>	i'm trying to get a data feed from bitfloor
Mar 31 20:55:17 <thestringpuller>	word
Mar 31 20:55:28 <thestringpuller>	does socket.io work with redis.io ?
Mar 31 20:55:35 <MJR_III>	but it's like socket.io guys never though "what if he wants to get info from a website he doesn't host?"
Mar 31 20:56:16 <MJR_III>	or what if he isn't using a browser
Mar 31 20:58:08 <MJR_III>	haven't used redis
Mar 31 20:58:11 <MJR_III>	and i'm not sure
Mar 31 20:58:17 <MJR_III>	i'll be back in a little bit
Mar 31 20:58:41 <splnkr>	http://try.redis.io/
Mar 31 20:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P086T] 14 @ 0.12294187 = 1.7212 BTC
Mar 31 20:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P092T] 13 @ 0.15861729 = 2.062 BTC
Mar 31 20:59:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P089T] 14 @ 0.14008074 = 1.9611 BTC
Mar 31 20:59:56 <thestringpuller>	is that soebot?
Mar 31 21:00:28 <smickles>	;;calc 89/1.14
Mar 31 21:00:28 <gribble>	78.0701754386
Mar 31 21:00:32 <smickles>	yup
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Mar 31 21:00:52 <smickles>	MJR_III: not much socket.io for me
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Mar 31 21:01:09 <MJR_III>	socket.io is really nothing like redis.io...
Mar 31 21:01:25 <MJR_III>	redis is a database, socket.io is more of a message passing interface/connection media
Mar 31 21:01:44 <MJR_III>	its trying to implement tcp sockets into a client/server model
Mar 31 21:02:03 <MJR_III>	using varius connection level media such as websockets etc
Mar 31 21:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.58 = 2.9 BTC [-]
Mar 31 21:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.575 BTC [-]
Mar 31 21:08:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [-]
Mar 31 21:08:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5616 BTC [-]
Mar 31 21:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
Mar 31 21:12:00 <MJR_III>	so anyway, the problem is that it's meant for browsers and javascript
Mar 31 21:12:08 <MJR_III>	but i need applications to be able to talk to it
Mar 31 21:12:20 <thestringpuller>	dude just use curl scripts and stop whining
Mar 31 21:12:29 <thestringpuller>	done. problem solved.
Mar 31 21:12:32 <MJR_III>	obviously you don't know what a websocket is
Mar 31 21:12:38 <MJR_III>	its a streaming data feed
Mar 31 21:12:44 <MJR_III>	curl would be for requests
Mar 31 21:12:55 <MJR_III>	or wget
Mar 31 21:13:30 <MJR_III>	the whole point of it is that you only request once
Mar 31 21:13:33 <thestringpuller>	I'm trollin' dude that's all I do. I'm no help.
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Mar 31 21:13:37 <MJR_III>	and then you have a connection
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Mar 31 21:13:42 <MJR_III>	hehehe, all good
Mar 31 21:13:47 <MJR_III>	it lowers overhead though
Mar 31 21:13:55 <MJR_III>	since you aren't sending a ton of requests all the time
Mar 31 21:14:33 <thestringpuller>	I've never worked on an application that requires a persistent connection
Mar 31 21:14:47 <MJR_III>	a market data feed?
Mar 31 21:15:05 <MJR_III>	for example, you can keep requesting all the market data...or their server can push any new orders out to you
Mar 31 21:15:14 <MJR_III>	so its real time
Mar 31 21:15:22 <MJR_III>	no refresh
Mar 31 21:15:26 <thestringpuller>	Nope. I wanted to do HFT Algo's so maybe one day I will do real time. But I've never worked on anything realtime
Mar 31 21:15:34 <thestringpuller>	except video games which make no monies
Mar 31 21:15:37 <MJR_III>	for HFT you need real time
Mar 31 21:16:25 <thestringpuller>	i kno
Mar 31 21:16:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i summon thee
Mar 31 21:19:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00401 BTC [-]
Mar 31 21:23:02 <thestringpuller>	$oix
Mar 31 21:23:14 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 31 21:23:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 81.34220013 / 93.14221262 / 140.1904003 (4085 shares, 2,444.98 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Mar 31 21:26:22 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Mar 31 21:26:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 81.34220013 / 93.14221262 / 140.1904003 (4085 shares, 2,444.98 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Mar 31 21:26:50 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Mar 31 21:26:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.38000, Best ask: 93.40001, Bid-ask spread: 0.02001, Last trade: 93.40001, 24 hour volume: 20690.03883381, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.74693
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Mar 31 21:29:13 <mircea_popescu>	what's new
Mar 31 21:30:44 <pgp>	game of thrones - that's what's new...
Mar 31 21:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> like, DC with nuclear lauch capability on site :) << settle the spamhouse asshats on the spot
Mar 31 21:32:01 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: doesn't watch that stuff
Mar 31 21:32:14 <MJR_III>	ah nice, GoT started
Mar 31 21:33:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.003099 = 0.3099 BTC [+]
Mar 31 21:33:15 <mircea_popescu>	im playing path of exile.
Mar 31 21:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed too
Mar 31 21:38:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/01/technology/russia-begins-selectively-blocking-internet-content.html
Mar 31 21:38:48 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is all this suicide bullshit.
Mar 31 21:38:54 <mircea_popescu>	people want to kill themselves, their business.
Mar 31 21:39:35 <benkay>	and yet the world continues to function, albeit imperfectly
Mar 31 21:39:56 <thestringpuller>	benkay \, mah nigga
Mar 31 21:40:08 *	benkay is now known as icyhot
Mar 31 21:40:19 <icyhot>	wtf colloquy
Mar 31 21:40:26 <icyhot>	what's up, strings.
Mar 31 21:40:26 <thestringpuller>	is that how you transform into gangsta version
Mar 31 21:40:37 <icyhot>	i'm demoing a new handle
Mar 31 21:40:42 <icyhot>	i've used benkay since
Mar 31 21:40:44 <icyhot>	middle school?
Mar 31 21:40:47 <icyhot>	before.
Mar 31 21:41:21 <mircea_popescu>	how long ago is that ?
Mar 31 21:41:43 <icyhot>	i'm 25 now.
Mar 31 21:41:50 <icyhot>	i think that's the question you're really interested in answering.
Mar 31 21:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	cool :p
Mar 31 21:43:00 <icyhot>	how old are you, mircea?
Mar 31 21:43:05 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu what was your pop's name?
Mar 31 21:43:12 <pgp>	icyhot...  related, but different..   works...
Mar 31 21:43:12 <thestringpuller>	Was he Mr. Popescu?
Mar 31 21:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	actually mircea
Mar 31 21:43:55 <mircea_popescu>	my grandfather too
Mar 31 21:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	and im thirtysomething
Mar 31 21:44:36 <icyhot>	do your people reverse the firstname lastname thing?
Mar 31 21:44:42 <icyhot>	family/personal?
Mar 31 21:44:47 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes
Mar 31 21:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	the proper form (ie, popescu mircea) is used in formal context. like for instance if you sue somebody.
Mar 31 21:45:54 <mircea_popescu>	the informal (ie, english style) is used otherwise
Mar 31 21:46:36 <icyhot>	then you're typically addressed as 'mircea'?
Mar 31 21:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Mar 31 21:47:07 <icyhot>	i don't know how seriously you take this autocratic thing. i halfway imagine you might have people kissing the pavement behind you.
Mar 31 21:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes.
Mar 31 21:47:19 <icyhot>	see?
Mar 31 21:47:20 <mircea_popescu>	the girls usually call me master.
Mar 31 21:47:33 <pgp>	lol
Mar 31 21:47:38 <tiberiusiv>	why wouldnt they you are a gypsy scum who takes advantage of their poverty.
Mar 31 21:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	no, i'm like serious and everything.
Mar 31 21:47:55 <tiberiusiv>	lol anyone think they are around him for his looks?
Mar 31 21:48:38 <icyhot>	like serious
Mar 31 21:48:46 <icyhot>	more like 14
Mar 31 21:48:52 <icyhot>	and female
Mar 31 21:49:03 <icyhot>	;)
Mar 31 21:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	no u
Mar 31 21:51:11 <icyhot>	i kid, i kid.
Mar 31 21:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	"A lot of software can be about egos.  While the Bitcoin architecture is genius the code itself is merely adequate."
Mar 31 21:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Mar 31 21:51:52 <icyhot>	where printed?
Mar 31 21:52:02 <dub>	oh shit, baller on deck
Mar 31 21:52:25 <dub>	howz the stuntin icyhot
Mar 31 21:52:40 <icyhot>	stuntin hard
Mar 31 21:52:55 <icyhot>	chillin on the po'ch wiv mah forty and shorty and pit bull
Mar 31 21:54:26 <icyhot>	drank heavily this weekend. everyone's recovering.
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Mar 31 21:57:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00060101 = 4.0568 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 21:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	"But involving with people who write on their website that they want to kill all idiots, is dangerous for me. Sorry."
Mar 31 21:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	what, I wrote that ?!
Mar 31 21:59:59 <icyhot>	i think it's more of an implication you make constantly.
Mar 31 22:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	you know... i think if anyone in this world can't be suspected of holding back from what they mean to say it'd be me.
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Mar 31 22:05:23 <icyhot>	also man to the rest of the world there isn't a whole lot of difference between calling people 'nigger' and saying that you want to kill all of the idiots.
Mar 31 22:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	!?
Mar 31 22:06:05 <icyhot>	parsing your pennings can be challenging for mere mortals; imagine how confusing they must be to the rest of the internet.
Mar 31 22:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
Mar 31 22:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	at least it ain't boring.
Mar 31 22:06:36 <icyhot>	i would prefer boring.
Mar 31 22:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Mar 31 22:06:59 <icyhot>	drama is bad for business.
Mar 31 22:07:07 <icyhot>	distracting.
Mar 31 22:07:35 <mircea_popescu>	well for everyone's peace of mind i don't propose, contemplate or intend to kill anyone.
Mar 31 22:07:37 <Bugpowder>	now time for VIKINGS!
Mar 31 22:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	seems a little silly.
Mar 31 22:08:13 <icyhot>	everything in my life is silly.
Mar 31 22:08:20 <icyhot>	i have entirely lost perspective.
Mar 31 22:08:27 <icyhot>	"what do you do?"
Mar 31 22:08:30 <dub>	what about if it was just yo uand Taaki on the roof with nobody looking?
Mar 31 22:08:38 <dub>	hard to beat that temptation
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Mar 31 22:08:59 <MJR_III>	best linux IRC app?
Mar 31 22:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	im not tempted.
Mar 31 22:09:10 <icyhot>	irssi, mjr_III
Mar 31 22:09:12 <mircea_popescu>	for one if i particularly wanted to i could probably create the event, what's it take, a few quid.
Mar 31 22:09:17 <mircea_popescu>	no xchat.
Mar 31 22:09:26 <MJR_III>	cool thx
Mar 31 22:09:59 <icyhot>	aside: moving from os x to ubuntu, i actually found myself more productive in the terminal
Mar 31 22:10:50 <dub>	so bitcoin hit nightly news here this week
Mar 31 22:10:58 <dub>	they showed amir and bruce wagner
Mar 31 22:11:04 <dub>	I fucking raged
Mar 31 22:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Mar 31 22:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	where are you, turkmenistan ?\
Mar 31 22:11:30 <dub>	outer
Mar 31 22:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	outer turkmenistan ?
Mar 31 22:11:43 <dub>	yes
Mar 31 22:11:52 <mircea_popescu>	well trade your tv for a camel
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Mar 31 22:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	wait. bruce wagner, the tv star ?
Mar 31 22:12:46 <dub>	yeah the boyloving youtube sensation
Mar 31 22:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	wow i thought he's gone
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Mar 31 22:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	high tide brings all the scum back to shore eh
Mar 31 22:13:13 <MJR_3>	hi all
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Mar 31 22:13:30 <MJR_3>	xchat is really nice
Mar 31 22:13:34 <MJR_3>	i like the layout, thanks mircea_popescu
Mar 31 22:13:38 <KRS1>	hey there
Mar 31 22:13:39 <dub>	i think it was an ancient clip but this is the press bitcoin has
Mar 31 22:13:54 <KRS1>	i know that name
Mar 31 22:13:55 <mircea_popescu>	Help us reach our goal! Bitcoinstore must sell $850,000 by June, 30 to keep its competitive prices. $0 reached of $850,000
Mar 31 22:13:57 <mircea_popescu>	that seems promising
Mar 31 22:14:03 <[\\\]>	that's just stupid
Mar 31 22:14:15 <[\\\]>	if you have to beg people to shop, then it isn't serving the original purpose
Mar 31 22:14:17 <Bugpowder>	i knew he would get an extention
Mar 31 22:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] i would hope my sarcasm is not squandered.
Mar 31 22:15:03 <[\\\]>	I'm 12 and what is this?
Mar 31 22:15:13 <smickles>	$avg
Mar 31 22:15:15 <mpexbot>	smickles: 92.70
Mar 31 22:15:23 <smickles>	;;calc 68/92.7
Mar 31 22:15:25 <gribble>	0.733549083064
Mar 31 22:15:36 <Bugpowder>	I think it will hit 850k by july 1
Mar 31 22:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder from 0 ?
Mar 31 22:15:44 <Bugpowder>	they did 450 basically this month
Mar 31 22:16:07 <KRS1>	I can't find ASIC mining rigs on bitcoinstore
Mar 31 22:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	look under cupcakes.
Mar 31 22:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	"BOOM.  While you've been out poppin' bottles with models, the Payward team has been slaving away at a proper exchange for arbitrary cyborg-alien currencies of the future, and bitcoin."
Mar 31 22:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck srslty.
Mar 31 22:18:18 <MJR_3>	url please
Mar 31 22:18:25 <icyhot>	payward.com
Mar 31 22:19:01 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159974.0
Mar 31 22:19:51 <MJR_3>	seems legit
Mar 31 22:20:03 <MJR_3>	:-|
Mar 31 22:20:22 <icyhot>	tee hee
Mar 31 22:20:30 <icyhot>	filled with lorem ipsum.
Mar 31 22:20:50 <icyhot>	pretty charts though.
Mar 31 22:20:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Mar 31 22:21:06 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229025 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 798 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 13 hours, 26 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7456274.96836 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.35706
Mar 31 22:21:09 <KRS1>	lol
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Mar 31 22:22:40 <MJR_3>	he does have confidence
Mar 31 22:22:43 <MJR_3>	you gotta give em that
Mar 31 22:22:58 <Bugpowder>	competence >> confidence
Mar 31 22:23:07 <MJR_3>	it was a joke
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Mar 31 22:23:20 <MJR_3>	that whole forum post was like LOL WTF, dude,
Mar 31 22:23:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 60 @ 0.1375 = 8.25 BTC [+]
Mar 31 22:23:38 <MJR_3>	we'll see
Mar 31 22:23:40 <icyhot>	the whole bitcoin economy is like LOL WTF dude
Mar 31 22:23:42 <MJR_3>	the more the merrier
Mar 31 22:23:45 <MJR_3>	hehehe
Mar 31 22:24:14 <MJR_3>	well...it kinda seemed like "our focus group tells us that these "memes" have the highest probablity  of going "viral"
Mar 31 22:24:36 <MJR_3>	like over the top
Mar 31 22:24:40 <MJR_3>	but eh, w/e
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Mar 31 22:25:03 <MJR_3>	does anyone know of a simple socket.io console app?
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Mar 31 22:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	at least jesse powell is not *completely* out of the financial loop
Mar 31 22:26:36 <MJR_3>	so wait, is kraken and payward two separate things?
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Mar 31 22:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	looks like a dba sort of thing
Mar 31 22:27:19 <icyhot>	dba?
Mar 31 22:28:02 <MJR_3>	better than most out there now
Mar 31 22:28:09 <MJR_3>	but we'll see how the matching engine is
Mar 31 22:28:25 <MJR_3>	at least they put a level 2 data book together in the right order
Mar 31 22:30:30 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i'm out. have a ball all.
Mar 31 22:31:24 <ThickAsThieves>	 <@assbot> [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 60 @ 0.1375 = 8.25 BTC [+]  <dats cheap, no?
Mar 31 22:33:02 <KRS1>	bye
Mar 31 22:33:18 <MJR_3>	later
Mar 31 22:33:38 <MJR_3>	damn it feels good to be back on linux
Mar 31 22:33:45 <KRS1>	awww yeah
Mar 31 22:34:19 <MJR_3>	KRS1, you know anything about websockets (specifically socket.io)?
Mar 31 22:34:37 <KRS1>	not really im a sysadmin but i know what socket.io is
Mar 31 22:34:42 <MJR_3>	yeah
Mar 31 22:34:44 <MJR_3>	its tough
Mar 31 22:34:48 <KRS1>	looking to interface with mtgox?
Mar 31 22:34:51 <MJR_3>	these web libraries keep changing
Mar 31 22:34:56 <MJR_3>	bitfloor actually
Mar 31 22:35:03 <KRS1>	i'd lose my mind if i was a web developer
Mar 31 22:35:14 <MJR_3>	its fun cuz of how quickly you can develop
Mar 31 22:35:20 <KRS1>	but i have to support all the crap they do where I work
Mar 31 22:35:22 <MJR_3>	but sucks cuz of how quickly you can develop
Mar 31 22:35:30 <KRS1>	yeah..wasnt always like that
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Mar 31 22:35:42 <KRS1>	i was looking at something cool today..what was it..
Mar 31 22:35:47 <MJR_3>	i swear that there is no library which doesn't break itself
Mar 31 22:36:51 <KRS1>	node
Mar 31 22:37:11 <KRS1>	take a look at this http://nodejs.org/
Mar 31 22:37:16 <MJR_3>	yeah i like node
Mar 31 22:37:18 <MJR_3>	its pretty cool
Mar 31 22:37:19 <KRS1>	ok
Mar 31 22:37:22 <MJR_3>	i was playing around with titanium
Mar 31 22:37:24 <MJR_3>	which is cooler
Mar 31 22:37:30 <KRS1>	seems like the future
Mar 31 22:37:33 <icyhot>	if you feel like enduring javascript
Mar 31 22:37:41 <MJR_3>	i like js ok
Mar 31 22:38:06 <MJR_3>	but wish that people wouldn't keep building on shaky libraries that break every new version (or every 2 days which is how often they release new versions)
Mar 31 22:38:16 <MJR_3>	like socket.io's EXAMPLE code doesn't work
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Mar 31 22:39:26 <Bugpowder>	booyah
Mar 31 22:39:27 <Bugpowder>	rally on
Mar 31 22:39:30 <Bugpowder>	japan is up
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Mar 31 22:39:36 <MJR_3>	wait
Mar 31 22:39:42 <MJR_3>	bugpowder
Mar 31 22:39:50 <MJR_3>	up as in weakening against the dollar?
Mar 31 22:40:02 <KRS1>	looks like you might be able to add some code to this: https://npmjs.org/package/socket.io
Mar 31 22:40:11 <KRS1>	Sending and receiving events.
Mar 31 22:40:33 <MJR_3>	thats the library i'm having trouble with
Mar 31 22:40:38 <MJR_3>	the one i asked about lol
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Mar 31 22:40:40 <MJR_3>	socket.io'
Mar 31 22:40:44 <KRS1>	oh he
Mar 31 22:40:45 <KRS1>	h
Mar 31 22:40:51 <MJR_3>	their own example code doesn't work
Mar 31 22:41:03 <KRS1>	hahahhaa
Mar 31 22:41:12 <Guest30926>	japan is awake
Mar 31 22:41:14 <MJR_3>	also...
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Mar 31 22:41:25 <MJR_3>	its stupid to expect that only browsers would want to connect
Mar 31 22:41:37 <MJR_3>	like...didn't they see that coming with json and api stuff?
Mar 31 22:41:57 <MJR_3>	for example...you basically have to download the library from a server that has it
Mar 31 22:42:05 <MJR_3>	instead of just having client code available
Mar 31 22:42:22 <MJR_3>	but i am not connecting to MY server, i am connecting to someone else's server
Mar 31 22:42:48 <MJR_3>	hmmm lemme try something
Mar 31 22:43:47 <Guest30926>	ralllllyy
Mar 31 22:43:53 <KRS1>	?
Mar 31 22:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9940 @ 0.00060101 = 5.974 BTC [-]
Mar 31 22:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6610 @ 0.0006 = 3.966 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 22:46:40 <Guest30926>	100 tomorrow
Mar 31 22:47:02 <KRS1>	when is the sell coming
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Mar 31 22:48:55 <MJR_III>	KRS1: YAY, that was a big help
Mar 31 22:48:59 <MJR_III>	i got it to connect now
Mar 31 22:49:19 <KRS1>	=D
Mar 31 22:49:30 <MJR_III>	BUT
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Mar 31 22:49:35 <Guest30926>	;;bids 0
Mar 31 22:49:38 <MJR_III>	unfortunately, its still in a browser
Mar 31 22:49:43 <gribble>	There are currently 34840494 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9947946.1114 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0084 seconds
Mar 31 22:49:55 <KRS1>	cant you use curl or something
Mar 31 22:50:01 <MJR_III>	nope
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Mar 31 22:50:05 <MJR_III>	curl only does http
Mar 31 22:50:11 <KRS1>	ahh
Mar 31 22:50:12 <MJR_III>	its to "download" a page
Mar 31 22:50:17 <MJR_III>	this is a tcp connection
Mar 31 22:50:22 <KRS1>	ic
Mar 31 22:50:23 <MJR_III>	more like a socket than a page
Mar 31 22:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42100001 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 22:55:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.421 = 1.684 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 22:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 7 @ 1 = 7 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 23:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.06 = 4.12 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 23:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
Mar 31 23:24:53 <taub>	smeone knows what the mpoe bot uses as the risk free rate of return?
Mar 31 23:25:11 <taub>	simple black sholes with daily volatiliy based off the history i get like 300%
Mar 31 23:25:25 <taub>	which seems kinda overblown
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Mar 31 23:25:40 <taub>	maybe my excel is wrong, or the bot uses a different model
Mar 31 23:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4389998 BTC [+]
Mar 31 23:26:23 <taub>	it should be 0 because i don't really think there is such a thing as a risk free itnerest rate
Mar 31 23:26:26 <taub>	in bitcoins
Mar 31 23:26:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.288 = 0.864 BTC [+]
Mar 31 23:27:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 14 @ 0.10578 = 1.4809 BTC [+]
Mar 31 23:27:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 33 @ 0.10579 = 3.4911 BTC [+]
Mar 31 23:27:17 <smickles_>	i think the volatility is between 100 and 300 %
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Mar 31 23:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43899999 BTC [+]
Mar 31 23:28:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.2899 = 2.0293 BTC [+]
Mar 31 23:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.439 = 3.512 BTC [+]
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Mar 31 23:30:12 <smickles__>	one time i estimated it's riskfree rate at 9%
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Mar 31 23:31:44 <taub>	i get 4% yearly volatitly
Mar 31 23:31:55 <taub>	based off the last ~90 days
Mar 31 23:31:59 <smickles>	it seems to use a std dev based of of 1 year of data
Mar 31 23:32:11 <smickles>	currently around 130 to 160%
Mar 31 23:32:39 <taub>	i did it like this i got the returns/changes in price from day to day, and then the variance off that
Mar 31 23:33:38 <taub>	and to make it yearly times the square root of numbers of days i take it over
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Mar 31 23:35:28 <smickles>	4% sound incredibly low to me
Mar 31 23:35:42 <smickles>	consider that we've risen about 1900% in the past year
Mar 31 23:35:56 <taub>	yea
Mar 31 23:36:07 <taub>	but each day was pretty steady
Mar 31 23:36:09 <smickles>	how long is your sample set?
Mar 31 23:36:20 <smickles>	90 days?
Mar 31 23:36:27 <taub>	i can make it longer but it doesnt change much
Mar 31 23:39:14 <taub>	okay yea i think i found the error
Mar 31 23:39:26 <taub>	i took the variance of the day to day change
Mar 31 23:39:33 <taub>	not the average of the day to day change
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Mar 31 23:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 28 @ 0.6085 = 17.038 BTC [+]
Mar 31 23:42:10 *	[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\] is now known as [III]
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Mar 31 23:42:51 <taub>	ugh i dont know
Mar 31 23:43:40 <smickles>	are you sure you are multiplying by the correct sqrt?
Mar 31 23:44:00 <taub>	okay now i have 40%
Mar 31 23:44:07 <taub>	over the last 94 days
Mar 31 23:44:27 <taub>	which seems to make sense
Mar 31 23:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6085 BTC [+]
Mar 31 23:45:24 <taub>	makes his options seem way underpriced...
Mar 31 23:45:25 <taub>	buy buy buy
Mar 31 23:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43899999 BTC [-]
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Mar 31 23:47:33 <taub>	smickles> are you sure you are multiplying by the correct sqrt?
Mar 31 23:47:36 <taub>	yea i had the wrong one there
Mar 31 23:51:26 <dub>	;;bc,nethash
Mar 31 23:51:26 <gribble>	Error: "bc,nethash" is not a valid command.
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Mar 31 23:59:05 <smickles>	dub, nanotube changed the bc, commands recently
Apr 01 00:01:02 <nanotube>	dub: just nethash
Apr 01 00:01:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75044 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:01:09 <nanotube>	;;bc,wiki gribble
Apr 01 00:01:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7504 = 1.5008 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:01:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7502 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:01:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7501 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:01:15 <gribble>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Gribble | Mar 11, 2013 ... gribble is a modified Supybot IRC bot, carrying some useful bitcoin-related commands and factoids. The bot's command sequence is ';;', to ...
Apr 01 00:01:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7501 = 3.7505 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:01:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.75 = 6.75 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:01:29 <nanotube>	dub: ^ see this page for updated command guide
Apr 01 00:02:00 <smickles>	;;list bitcoindata
Apr 01 00:02:00 <gribble>	avgprc, bcstats, blockdiff, blocks, bounty, diff, diffchange, estimate, genprob, genrate, gentime, halfreward, hextarget, interval, nethash, nextretarget, prevdiff, prevdiffchange, timetonext, totalbc, and tslb
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Apr 01 00:09:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 66 @ 0.011 = 0.726 BTC [+]
Apr 01 00:10:30 <ThickAsThieves>	''nethash
Apr 01 00:10:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 01 00:10:40 <gribble>	58011.1856523
Apr 01 00:10:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 01 00:10:54 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Apr 01 00:10:56 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7461942.56117 based on data since last change | 8103945.35844 based on data for last three days
Apr 01 00:10:56 <mpexbot>	smickles: 329
Apr 01 00:11:07 <smickles>	even lower!
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Apr 01 00:11:36 <ThickAsThieves>	nethash rose about 3000 in the past couple days
Apr 01 00:11:58 *	smickles was talking about the unconfirmed txns
Apr 01 00:12:42 <ThickAsThieves>	i was implying higher hashes meant less unconfirmed txs ,no?
Apr 01 00:13:14 <smickles>	i don't think a higher hashrate implies lower unconfirmed txns
Apr 01 00:14:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 24 @ 0.10579 = 2.539 BTC [+]
Apr 01 00:14:26 <ThickAsThieves>	more miners hashing doesn't improve the tx rate?
Apr 01 00:14:58 <smickles>	naw, the miners don't have to accept any txns
Apr 01 00:15:11 <smickles>	there's even some who never do
Apr 01 00:16:16 <ThickAsThieves>	ok i'm not sober atm, but do mean like those miners that just spin their wheels, cuz otherwise isn't that what blocks are, txs?
Apr 01 00:16:24 <smickles>	so what affects the unconfirmed # is either fewer txns being sent, more accepting miners, or txns being sent wiht higher fees which are now above the miner's threshold (but not above before)
Apr 01 00:16:53 <ThickAsThieves>	oh some mining is still focused on new coins?
Apr 01 00:17:00 <ThickAsThieves>	is that the difference?
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Apr 01 00:17:15 <smickles>	blocks don't need any txns in them. the miner is allowed to add them in when they solve a block. They usually add in the one to get the bounty at least
Apr 01 00:17:19 <ThickAsThieves>	and here i thought i "got it"
Apr 01 00:17:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i didnt know that
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Apr 01 00:18:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i assumed something in the software bunched blocks together in some homogenous way
Apr 01 00:19:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00060322 = 6.2735 BTC [+]
Apr 01 00:19:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00060871 = 1.3696 BTC [+]
Apr 01 00:19:21 <ThickAsThieves>	so higher nethash could still correlate, no?
Apr 01 00:19:37 <ThickAsThieves>	more miners means more possibly accepting miners
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Apr 01 00:23:02 <smickles>	i'd suggest that in this time of miners trying to get clients to send larger fees, you can't make that assumption
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Apr 01 00:23:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.004289 = 0.0172 BTC [+]
Apr 01 00:24:16 <smickles>	$avg
Apr 01 00:24:17 <mpexbot>	smickles: 92.76
Apr 01 00:25:47 <ThickAsThieves>	might just be less transactions in this case
Apr 01 00:26:03 <ThickAsThieves>	not that this is the best indicator, but http://blockchain.info/charts/my-wallet-n-tx
Apr 01 00:27:11 <ThickAsThieves>	ah, http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions
Apr 01 00:27:42 <ThickAsThieves>	they also have tx fee chart
Apr 01 00:28:11 <smickles>	;;later tell mircea_popescu hey, does SPLIT use the 24hprc or the spot price on the calc for the number of puts? 24hprc was 92.76, strike 92. i did a SPLIT 2 expecting one call, one put. only got 1 call
Apr 01 00:28:11 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 01 00:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42100002 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42100001 = 1.263 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:48:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00416539 = 4.1654 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.421 = 1.684 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:50:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.421 BTC [-]
Apr 01 00:50:59 <MJR_III>	benkay?
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Apr 01 00:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00416539 = 6.2481 BTC [-]
Apr 01 01:00:03 <smickles>	;;calc 92.76/92
Apr 01 01:00:03 <gribble>	1.00826086957
Apr 01 01:00:22 <smickles>	did i do my calc backwards?
Apr 01 01:01:05 <smickles>	;;calc 92/92.76
Apr 01 01:01:05 <gribble>	0.991806813282
Apr 01 01:01:08 <smickles>	???
Apr 01 01:01:39 <MJR_III>	well, i am making a lot of progress on socket.io
Apr 01 01:01:57 <smickles>	"...(and a number of PUTS @5.0 based on the strike/current BTC/USD ratio)..."
Apr 01 01:02:00 <MJR_III>	but i wonder...there is a python wrapper for the chrome v8 engine
Apr 01 01:02:22 <MJR_III>	so i think i could build a standalone python app using that engine
Apr 01 01:02:27 <smickles>	MJR_III: isn't there a python wraper for everything?
Apr 01 01:02:35 <MJR_III>	smickles: pretty much yes
Apr 01 01:04:00 <smickles>	so it is 92/92.76, which is less than 1, and there was 1 btc available, so that should've made a put too
Apr 01 01:04:06 <smickles>	... but it didn't :(
Apr 01 01:04:12 <MJR_III>	weird
Apr 01 01:04:17 <MJR_III>	you just did a split?
Apr 01 01:04:27 <smickles>	a little while ago
Apr 01 01:05:31 <MJR_III>	anyways, off to bed for a bit
Apr 01 01:05:36 <smickles>	nn
Apr 01 01:06:09 <MJR_III>	going to dream of desktop apps that can use js libraries
Apr 01 01:13:51 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 01:13:52 <KRS1>	lol
Apr 01 01:13:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.30002, Best ask: 93.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39998, Last trade: 93.70000, 24 hour volume: 23160.96693481, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.82568
Apr 01 01:13:58 <KRS1>	he probably will, too
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Apr 01 01:24:23 <Bowjob>	ooh
Apr 01 01:24:26 <Bowjob>	looks like Ian Bakewell is alive
Apr 01 01:24:26 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63614
Apr 01 01:24:56 <smickles>	oooh indeed
Apr 01 01:25:06 <smickles>	last post still march first tho
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Apr 01 01:26:14 <Bowjob>	he's been deleting his posts
Apr 01 01:26:25 <Bowjob>	he changed his siggy as well
Apr 01 01:28:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [+]
Apr 01 01:30:20 <ThickAsThieves>	BFL_Josh : Yes, we've shipped on March 31st, not April 1st, so it's not an April fools joke.
Apr 01 01:30:38 <ThickAsThieves>	to Luke I think
Apr 01 01:31:31 <ThickAsThieves>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/luke-jr/118-my-first-asics.html
Apr 01 01:35:40 <ThickAsThieves>	in other news, litecoin back to .01btc
Apr 01 01:35:48 <ThickAsThieves>	.915 USD
Apr 01 01:36:22 <Bowjob>	wow
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Apr 01 01:40:05 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Apr 01 01:40:12 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163261.msg1713137;topicseen#msg1713137
Apr 01 01:40:14 <Bowjob>	O_O
Apr 01 01:40:42 <smickles>	woah, wait, the yes side one?
Apr 01 01:40:46 <smickles>	er, won?
Apr 01 01:41:35 <Bowjob>	i dont know if its 10% yes or no yet
Apr 01 01:42:13 <smickles>	so they ship with no case?
Apr 01 01:43:01 <Bowjob>	i guess so
Apr 01 01:43:13 <Bowjob>	well, its more like a big fuck you to those who bet
Apr 01 01:43:18 <Bowjob>	against bfl
Apr 01 01:44:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think the power is within spec
Apr 01 01:44:57 <ThickAsThieves>	assuming power usage is part of "advertised performance"
Apr 01 01:45:43 <smickles>	uh, i don't think the hashes are within spec either
Apr 01 01:46:00 <smickles>	unless those are jalapeno's
Apr 01 01:46:03 <Bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Apr 01 01:46:10 <Bowjob>	this should be closed
Apr 01 01:46:13 <Bowjob>	answe is yes
Apr 01 01:46:32 <ThickAsThieves>	i think its a lil single?
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Apr 01 01:47:12 <smickles>	little singles were advertised at 30Gh
Apr 01 01:47:48 <smickles>	the pic shows 24Gh/s avg after running for 41 min
Apr 01 01:49:07 <Bowjob>	good. now lets wait for 9 months for the next asic that they produce
Apr 01 01:49:09 <ThickAsThieves>	probly could just get luke in here to answer some Q's
Apr 01 01:49:40 <ThickAsThieves>	bet also says "customerS"
Apr 01 01:50:10 <smickles>	and the pic shows power useage over double what an sc single was supposed to have
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Apr 01 01:51:14 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah they were up front about the power regulator being off
Apr 01 01:51:18 <ThickAsThieves>	"off"
Apr 01 01:51:41 <ThickAsThieves>	they say newer models will have it corrected at some point
Apr 01 01:51:49 <ThickAsThieves>	so maybe the July bet will still be Yes
Apr 01 01:54:58 <Bowjob>	now avalon batch 3 may be screwed
Apr 01 01:55:15 <ThickAsThieves>	they already were imo
Apr 01 01:55:25 <Bowjob>	how bout batch 2
Apr 01 01:55:26 <Bowjob>	mhm
Apr 01 01:55:39 <smickles>	why is avalon screwed?
Apr 01 01:55:39 <ThickAsThieves>	batch 2 might be okay
Apr 01 01:55:48 <ThickAsThieves>	buyers, not avalon itsel
Apr 01 01:55:49 <ThickAsThieves>	f
Apr 01 01:55:53 <Bowjob>	im from batch 2.5, paid 56 btc
Apr 01 01:56:04 <Bowjob>	i think i'll be fine
Apr 01 01:56:09 <smickles>	why would the buyers be screwed?
Apr 01 01:56:12 <Bowjob>	it would be nice to mine 100 BTC though
Apr 01 01:56:21 <Bowjob>	bfl shipping
Apr 01 01:56:32 <ThickAsThieves>	first batch 3 was screwed with high price, then Avalon announced a little vacation, some people havent even received batch 1 yet
Apr 01 01:56:32 <smickles>	oh, so more asic out there
Apr 01 01:56:52 <ThickAsThieves>	also avalon is implying they will switch to mining themselves
Apr 01 01:57:12 <Bowjob>	well to be fair this is bfl we're talking about.. they'll find a reason to fuck shipping
Apr 01 01:57:21 <ThickAsThieves>	so nethash has lotsa potential to rise before batch 3 gets orders
Apr 01 01:57:25 <ThickAsThieves>	and even after
Apr 01 01:57:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i agree Bow
Apr 01 01:57:47 <ThickAsThieves>	still could be weeks before they REALLY ship
Apr 01 01:58:43 <Bowjob>	I feel retarded now for buying usd with btc
Apr 01 01:58:50 <Bowjob>	i created a taxable event
Apr 01 01:58:53 <Bowjob>	bah
Apr 01 01:59:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i won't tell on you
Apr 01 01:59:18 <ThickAsThieves>	dunno about these other guys tho ;)
Apr 01 01:59:20 <Bowjob>	it was done thru a bank payment so
Apr 01 01:59:24 <Bowjob>	i got no choice
Apr 01 01:59:26 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Apr 01 01:59:40 <ThickAsThieves>	are money orders a good way to cash out?
Apr 01 01:59:47 <ThickAsThieves>	i think campbx does those
Apr 01 02:00:17 <Bowjob>	i was hoping my avalon would make up for what i sold
Apr 01 02:00:26 <Bowjob>	but bfl.. gah, gives me an uneasy feeling
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Apr 01 02:08:03 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc still climbing
Apr 01 02:08:08 <ThickAsThieves>	.011
Apr 01 02:14:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 01 02:14:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.00012, Best ask: 94.06749, Bid-ask spread: 0.06737, Last trade: 94.00010, 24 hour volume: 24096.62058981, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 94.00000, 24 hour vwap: 92.86659
Apr 01 02:14:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 01 02:14:50 <gribble>	0 seconds
Apr 01 02:15:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
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Apr 01 02:15:10 <gribble>	58675.0918761
Apr 01 02:15:21 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 01 02:15:27 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7497970.1891 based on data since last change | 8196690.5713 based on data for last three days
Apr 01 02:15:35 <Susan479>	Does anyone here use BTC-E?
Apr 01 02:16:06 <ThickAsThieves>	less so these days
Apr 01 02:16:13 <ThickAsThieves>	but i watch ltc there
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Apr 01 02:16:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 01 02:16:44 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229057 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 766 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 5 hours, 34 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7497970.1891 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.97976
Apr 01 02:19:09 <smickles>	;;ticker
Apr 01 02:19:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.06751, Best ask: 94.39000, Bid-ask spread: 0.32249, Last trade: 94.39000, 24 hour volume: 24062.06034472, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 94.39000, 24 hour vwap: 92.86882
Apr 01 02:19:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1344 = 13.44 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 02:29:23 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 01 02:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00397758 / 0.00415254 / 0.00439992 (26200 shares, 108.80 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00338297 / 0.0045 (675453 shares, 2,285.04 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00438849 / 0.0063777 (1620177 shares, 7,110.14 BTC)
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Apr 01 02:36:33 <smickles>	xt = μt ε t , ε t | It −1 ~ i.i.d . D (1, φ )
Apr 01 02:36:36 <smickles>	srs
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Apr 01 02:59:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.000612 = 0.0055 BTC [-]
Apr 01 02:59:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 7 @ 0.000612 = 0.0043 BTC [-]
Apr 01 03:00:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 250 @ 0.000611 = 0.1528 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 03:11:05 <ZedsterX>	where can I see the finall tally on DICE's march profit/loss?
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Apr 01 03:20:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 03:24:46 <error4733>	cant find wich one is a april fool : LTC @ 1$ or BFL ship one unit to luckjr
Apr 01 03:25:19 <gwillen>	error4733: I heard he went there and picked it up?
Apr 01 03:25:24 <gwillen>	I dunno how he managed that, though
Apr 01 03:25:27 <gwillen>	it's confusing
Apr 01 03:26:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73121 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 03:28:04 <Bowjob>	Ooh
Apr 01 03:28:09 <Bowjob>	looks like BFL is lying
Apr 01 03:28:14 <Bowjob>	or its luke who's lying
Apr 01 03:28:16 <Bowjob>	or both
Apr 01 03:28:21 <error4733>	both
Apr 01 03:28:25 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163261.msg1713429#msg1713429
Apr 01 03:28:32 <ZedsterX>	but LTC isd well over a dolla now
Apr 01 03:28:40 <Bowjob>	good catch by pg
Apr 01 03:29:32 <error4733>	i get that as well
Apr 01 03:30:20 <error4733>	so BFL provide a pic to luckjr ? just for troll ?
Apr 01 03:30:39 <error4733>	with 10.000 angry customers ? jsut no way
Apr 01 03:30:57 <Bowjob>	Nah, BFL shipped the whole.. whole lab
Apr 01 03:31:02 <Bowjob>	that was pretty good
Apr 01 03:33:12 <Bowjob>	looks like its both
Apr 01 03:35:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7312 = 3.656 BTC [-]
Apr 01 03:39:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.731 BTC [-]
Apr 01 03:40:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.73 = 7.3 BTC [-]
Apr 01 03:40:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Apr 01 03:45:39 <Bowjob>	heh, bitcoin will hit $1 too
Apr 01 03:46:26 <error4733>	yes Cbtc
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Apr 01 04:05:41 <ZedsterX>	so how bad was DICE's loss for MArch guys?
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Apr 01 04:07:12 <dub>	Luke-Jr has worked on BFL stuff remotely before
Apr 01 04:11:45 <error4733>	+1300 for S.dice
Apr 01 04:13:14 <dub>	;;nethash
Apr 01 04:13:20 <gribble>	59057.5451241
Apr 01 04:15:40 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 04:15:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.55000, Best ask: 93.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.33000, Last trade: 93.55000, 24 hour volume: 25751.04626456, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 94.48000, 24 hour vwap: 93.03458
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Apr 01 04:20:26 <ZedsterX>	  error4733 ¦ +1300 for S.dice ....DICE showed profit??
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Apr 01 04:27:46 <error4733>	yep
Apr 01 04:28:23 <error4733>	1166 my bad : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1712861#msg1712861
Apr 01 04:28:53 <error4733>	with 3 lucky bastard at less than 1...
Apr 01 04:29:07 <error4733>	;;calcul 1900+1620+640
Apr 01 04:29:08 <gribble>	Error: "calcul" is not a valid command.
Apr 01 04:29:38 <error4733>	;;calcule 1+1
Apr 01 04:29:39 <gribble>	Error: "calcule" is not a valid command.
Apr 01 04:29:50 <error4733>	fu gribble
Apr 01 04:31:50 <error4733>	5K profit without less than 1, 470K$ same as feb and jan
Apr 01 04:34:04 <error4733>	without whale...  well done less than 1 you fucked my div
Apr 01 04:35:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7489 BTC [-]
Apr 01 04:37:26 <ZedsterX>	well then i am confused why it is still so low
Apr 01 04:43:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00060023 = 6.9627 BTC [-]
Apr 01 04:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.00060871 = 0.4565 BTC [+]
Apr 01 04:44:05 <ZedsterX>	/!\ error4733 /!\ ¦ thanks for the info btw sir
Apr 01 04:45:02 <dub>	that script really sucks some ball
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Apr 01 04:49:01 <ZedsterX>	yeah sorry man i hate it too
Apr 01 04:49:09 <ZedsterX>	i will change it today
Apr 01 04:56:39 <dub>	gage is losing his shit over bfl
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Apr 01 05:01:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.004289 = 0.0429 BTC [+]
Apr 01 05:03:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 05:09:47 <ZedsterX>	everyone is wound a bit tight about BFL
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Apr 01 05:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.425 BTC [+]
Apr 01 05:22:24 *	jurov_ is now known as jurov
Apr 01 05:23:18 <Ukto>	It's april first. new quarter for BitFunder. You know how this effects fees on BitFunder... or do you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1713688#msg1713688 ;)
Apr 01 05:25:41 <jurov>	Ukto, nice. But for me, coming a bit late, just right after the MPOE bonds scare...
Apr 01 05:26:54 <jurov>	No one of MPBPT-O holders reinvested into MPBPT-E.
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Apr 01 05:32:26 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 05:32:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.24001, Best ask: 94.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.25998, Last trade: 94.49999, 24 hour volume: 26868.43315080, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 94.67000, 24 hour vwap: 93.11049
Apr 01 05:33:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.375 = 0.75 BTC [-]
Apr 01 05:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.60696969 = 3.0348 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 05:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.60696969 = 2.4279 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 05:54:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.749 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 06:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9588 @ 0.00060242 = 5.776 BTC [-]
Apr 01 06:39:32 <error4733>	!last m s.dice
Apr 01 06:39:33 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00416539 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 06:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4389888 = 1.317 BTC [+]
Apr 01 06:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.439 = 5.268 BTC [+]
Apr 01 06:51:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.44599999 = 4.46 BTC [+]
Apr 01 06:51:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1662 @ 0.00060242 = 1.0012 BTC [-]
Apr 01 06:51:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3738 @ 0.0006 = 2.2428 BTC [-]
Apr 01 06:54:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.002999 = 0.018 BTC [-]
Apr 01 06:58:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.749999 = 2.25 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 07:20:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01107 BTC [-]
Apr 01 07:20:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01106 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 07:36:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.749999 = 1.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 07:43:38 <bitessak>	;;ticker
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Apr 01 07:43:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.50090, Best ask: 94.69989, Bid-ask spread: 0.19899, Last trade: 94.50090, 24 hour volume: 27511.68644631, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 94.84000, 24 hour vwap: 93.17817
Apr 01 07:46:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.749999 = 2.25 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 07:47:50 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 01 07:47:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 19 @ 0.00402 = 0.0764 BTC [-]
Apr 01 07:47:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.50091, Best ask: 95.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49909, Last trade: 94.50091, 24 hour volume: 29869.63042979, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 95.00000, 24 hour vwap: 93.31910
Apr 01 07:48:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 52 @ 0.004015 = 0.2088 BTC [-]
Apr 01 07:49:29 <kakobrekla>	rally
Apr 01 07:49:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 75 @ 0.004 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Apr 01 07:49:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.749999 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 08:02:27 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 01 08:02:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.31000, Best ask: 96.44638, Bid-ask spread: 0.13638, Last trade: 96.44638, 24 hour volume: 32642.44526573, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 96.75001, 24 hour vwap: 93.54613
Apr 01 08:04:38 <kakobrekla>	97
Apr 01 08:05:00 <pizzaman1337>	I guess everyone's wire transfers are clearing?
Apr 01 08:05:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2899 BTC [+]
Apr 01 08:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	must be hehe
Apr 01 08:06:40 <kakobrekla>	its holiday here
Apr 01 08:06:48 <kakobrekla>	no transfers to bitstamp today
Apr 01 08:06:54 <kakobrekla>	dunno for the rest of yurop
Apr 01 08:07:00 <kakobrekla>	they will be fucked tomorrow
Apr 01 08:07:08 <kakobrekla>	98
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Apr 01 08:07:13 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 01 08:07:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.97000, Best ask: 98.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 98.00000, 24 hour volume: 32642.44526573, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 96.75001, 24 hour vwap: 93.54613
Apr 01 08:07:25 <kakobrekla>	ticker is late
Apr 01 08:07:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 1000 @ 1.14429181 = 1144.2918 BTC [-]
Apr 01 08:07:37 <kakobrekla>	i looking at socket via moody
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Apr 01 08:07:41 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker --websocket
Apr 01 08:07:41 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Apr 01 08:07:41 <pizzaman1337>	:P
Apr 01 08:07:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol ouch
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Apr 01 08:08:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.22316625 = 223.1663 BTC [+]
Apr 01 08:08:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 1000 @ 0.23774495 = 237.745 BTC
Apr 01 08:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 01 08:09:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 86.04499804 / 97.29593865 / 133.95274683 (7085 shares, 4,050.18 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 01 08:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	Average Transaction 59.98743815 BTC
Apr 01 08:10:04 <KRS1>	when to sell? 100 might trigger -10%?
Apr 01 08:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	dude srlsy... i gotta raise the reg fee.
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Apr 01 08:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder : here's an idea : make hashing processors out of dragonfly brains.
Apr 01 08:15:32 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 01 08:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 40 @ 0.23959342 = 9.5837 BTC [+]
Apr 01 08:17:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 01 08:17:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.50000, Best ask: 97.79855, Bid-ask spread: 0.29855, Last trade: 97.79855, 24 hour volume: 35881.21447432, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 98.10000, 24 hour vwap: 93.88708
Apr 01 08:17:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 01 08:18:00 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229120 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 703 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 13 hours, 38 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7622306.53365 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.83668
Apr 01 08:18:18 <ThickAsThieves>	rising pretty briskly
Apr 01 08:18:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 01 08:18:29 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7622306.53365 based on data since last change | 8365365.88258 based on data for last three days
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Apr 01 08:22:54 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 99.99
Apr 01 08:22:54 <gribble>	There are currently 8305.4313 bitcoins offered at or under 99.99 USD, worth 822387.920549 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.7274 seconds
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Apr 01 08:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.0006 = 1.44 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 08:30:02 <Bugpowder>	bitcoinity lol
Apr 01 08:30:18 <ChaangNoi>	http://slashdot.org/submission/2576047/mtgox-to-accept-litecoin-virtual-currency   oh wow
Apr 01 08:31:01 <Bugpowder>	watchout, its April 1
Apr 01 08:31:04 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 01 08:31:17 <Bugpowder>	people could lose money speculative buying on that news
Apr 01 08:31:43 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Apr 01 08:31:54 <kakobrekla>	ohh
Apr 01 08:31:59 <kakobrekla>	so that killed the bibet
Apr 01 08:32:06 <kakobrekla>	makes perfect sense now
Apr 01 08:32:19 <ThickAsThieves>	https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/LTCUSD/money/ticker
Apr 01 08:32:45 <KRS1>	so watch for quick rises in btc?
Apr 01 08:32:57 <KRS1>	maybe?
Apr 01 08:33:07 <ChaangNoi>	im not so sure its a joke
Apr 01 08:33:14 <Bugpowder>	yeah not sure either
Apr 01 08:33:30 <Bugpowder>	April 1 is really a terrible day to issue real press releases though
Apr 01 08:33:43 <ChaangNoi>	well, its not like gox did
Apr 01 08:33:57 <KRS1>	idk..Submitted by Anonymous Coward
Apr 01 08:34:16 <ChaangNoi>	i know who submited it, he thinks its nt a joke
Apr 01 08:34:27 <ChaangNoi>	but he could have been tricked by the org source
Apr 01 08:34:34 <ChaangNoi>	anyway if true...
Apr 01 08:34:52 <ThickAsThieves>	youll be even richer, we know ;)
Apr 01 08:34:53 <ChaangNoi>	i could see $10ltc soon easy
Apr 01 08:35:13 <ChaangNoi>	well, if true $1 ltc is cheap
Apr 01 08:35:34 <ChaangNoi>	id like to make sure however before trading on this news
Apr 01 08:36:17 <kakobrekla>	yes sell all btc asap
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Apr 01 08:36:38 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 01 08:36:44 <KRS1>	what
Apr 01 08:36:46 <gribble>	There are currently 34850658 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9905365.67608 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0091 seconds
Apr 01 08:36:50 <KRS1>	srsly
Apr 01 08:37:14 <ColdHardMetal>	I di quitel ike this thing though:  http://www.listentobitcoin.com/
Apr 01 08:37:32 <ChaangNoi>	https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/LTCEUR/money/ticker
Apr 01 08:38:42 <ChaangNoi>	CHM neat
Apr 01 08:39:31 <Bugpowder>	yeah was listenitng last night, wish there was some correlation between exchange price direction and the sounds, would be much nicer to listen to than clark moody
Apr 01 08:39:57 <Bugpowder>	100 is going down today
Apr 01 08:40:13 <Bugpowder>	as I suspected...
Apr 01 08:40:48 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 08:41:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 98.00000, Best ask: 98.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 98.19999, 24 hour volume: 38061.25816406, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 98.39650, 24 hour vwap: 94.10042
Apr 01 08:41:25 <ChaangNoi>	wonder if i should order some champagne
Apr 01 08:42:09 <error4733>	is on the fridge from last week
Apr 01 08:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00395455 = 8.7 BTC [-]
Apr 01 08:42:20 <error4733>	srsly
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Apr 01 08:44:57 <ChaangNoi>	mine is too, but now traveling
Apr 01 08:45:21 <ChaangNoi>	i have two bots in the truck as well but its very hot now
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Apr 01 08:48:20 <KRS1>	its gone down a bit on god
Apr 01 08:48:21 <KRS1>	gox
Apr 01 08:48:31 <KRS1>	not sure what to think here
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Apr 01 08:49:51 <Bugpowder>	4 hours we will be thru 100...
Apr 01 08:49:54 <Bugpowder>	guess
Apr 01 08:50:36 <bitesak>	my pendulum says Wednesday is when we break through 100 strongly :)
Apr 01 08:53:31 <Bugpowder>	is possible
Apr 01 08:53:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [-]
Apr 01 08:53:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+]
Apr 01 08:56:48 <Bugpowder>	"One popular theory among Russian bloggers speculates that Nakamoto is Grigory Perelman"
Apr 01 08:56:54 <Bugpowder>	Hadn't heard that theory before
Apr 01 08:57:06 <Bugpowder>	as if Grigory gives 1 shit about the real world...
Apr 01 08:59:02 <ThickAsThieves>	getting ready to break ATH
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Apr 01 09:00:02 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 09:00:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 98.00001, Best ask: 98.00002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 98.30000, 24 hour volume: 38913.06244008, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 98.41000, 24 hour vwap: 94.18840
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Apr 01 09:01:28 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 01 09:01:35 <gribble>	There are currently 34850576 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10026671.1919 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0091 seconds
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Apr 01 09:05:41 <ChaangNoi>	ColdHardMetal Ready for 2 million Best Korians to come for a visit? :)
Apr 01 09:07:44 <ColdHardMetal>	not worried in the slightest.
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Apr 01 09:10:10 <ChaangNoi>	he just be trollin?
Apr 01 09:10:26 <ChaangNoi>	http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/nose/
Apr 01 09:10:39 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder im pretty sure it's not perelman
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Apr 01 09:13:33 <KRS1>	wtf <kakobrekla> yes sell all btc asap
Apr 01 09:14:10 <KRS1>	what is wrong with some people..idk maybe its me
Apr 01 09:14:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 200 @ 0.19960593 = 39.9212 BTC
Apr 01 09:15:28 <pgp>	not a very glowing reception of bitcoin - http://www.businessinsider.com/is-bitcoin-money-2013-4
Apr 01 09:17:05 <KRS1>	i dont think it can be used as money..how would the transactions keep up at that rate..ex. transactional data from just amex alone would choke the network
Apr 01 09:17:15 <KRS1>	maybe a financial tool yes
Apr 01 09:18:07 <KRS1>	facilitate transfer of wealth..idk
Apr 01 09:18:47 <pgp>	well, I see money laundering a big red flag that detractors can use...
Apr 01 09:19:19 <KRS1>	yeah..its been used as that since day 1 prolly
Apr 01 09:19:22 <pgp>	the question is will the US make some illegal simply because there is no way to regulate it?
Apr 01 09:19:51 <mircea_popescu>	pgp there is no such thing as "money laundering".
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Apr 01 09:20:41 <pgp>	not in bitcoin terms, I suppose not...  a transfer is a transfer...
Apr 01 09:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Apr 01 09:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	pecunia non olet.
Apr 01 09:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	actually... http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/time-for-europe-to-repeal-the-us-backed-aml-crap/
Apr 01 09:22:07 <pgp>	in pecunium veritas?
Apr 01 09:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	that may be taking it a little too far.
Apr 01 09:25:34 <pgp>	lol
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Apr 01 09:26:04 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 99.999
Apr 01 09:26:12 <gribble>	There are currently 7047.7282 bitcoins offered at or under 99.999 USD, worth 698874.017257 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
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Apr 01 09:30:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.226871 = 226.871 BTC [+]
Apr 01 09:31:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;calc 98/(1-.226871)
Apr 01 09:31:46 <gribble>	126.757630357
Apr 01 09:31:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.0006 = 7.02 BTC [-]
Apr 01 09:32:06 <ChaangNoi>	126 :)   im sure we will be there by the end of the month
Apr 01 09:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	maybe so
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Apr 01 09:34:38 <thestringpuller>	!ticker HIM
Apr 01 09:34:39 <assbot>	Are you sure you have no tobacco?
Apr 01 09:34:43 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Apr 01 09:34:45 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.00000000 / 2.00913043 / 2.06000000 (46 shares, 92.42000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.79383584 / 2.08000000 (226 shares, 405.40690096 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.78069269 / 2.08000000 (759 shares, 1351.54575265 BTC)
Apr 01 09:35:04 <ThickAsThieves>	98.7
Apr 01 09:35:10 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 01 09:35:10 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 58 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <smickles> srs
Apr 01 09:36:19 <ThickAsThieves>	if burnside doesnt move my ltc for 6+ hours again i will be a sad panda, unless of course the delay stops me from selling off too early
Apr 01 09:37:31 <thestringpuller>	why are people trading ltc?
Apr 01 09:37:41 <thestringpuller>	Must be a lot like silver now
Apr 01 09:38:05 <ThickAsThieves>	it's at 1.22USD right now
Apr 01 09:38:15 <ThickAsThieves>	about double from a week ago
Apr 01 09:38:43 <pgp>	what's the market cap of ltc?
Apr 01 09:39:18 <thestringpuller>	couple million I would think at this point
Apr 01 09:39:37 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 01 09:39:37 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hprc" is not a valid command.
Apr 01 09:39:43 <thestringpuller>	;;avg
Apr 01 09:39:43 <gribble>	Error: "avg" is not a valid command.
Apr 01 09:39:46 <mircea_popescu>	like 10mn ?
Apr 01 09:40:07 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what is the new 24hr price command for gribble?
Apr 01 09:40:13 <thestringpuller>	;;seen nanotube
Apr 01 09:40:14 <gribble>	nanotube was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 38 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <nanotube> dub: ^ see this page for updated command guide
Apr 01 09:40:19 <ThickAsThieves>	$avgpc
Apr 01 09:40:20 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea
Apr 01 09:40:26 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 01 09:40:26 <thestringpuller>	$avgpc
Apr 01 09:40:31 <thestringpuller>	;;avgpc
Apr 01 09:40:32 <gribble>	Error: "avgpc" is not a valid command.
Apr 01 09:40:34 <thestringpuller>	;;avgprc
Apr 01 09:40:34 <gribble>	(avgprc <currency> <timeframe>) -- Returns volume-weighted average price data from MtGox. <currency> is a three-letter currency code, <timeframe> is the time window for the average, and can be '24h', '7d', or '30d'.
Apr 01 09:40:43 <thestringpuller>	;;avgprc USD 24h
Apr 01 09:40:49 <gribble>	94.32
Apr 01 09:40:52 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 01 09:40:54 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 94.32
Apr 01 09:40:57 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 01 09:40:57 <ThickAsThieves>	there it is
Apr 01 09:41:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 98.77000, Best ask: 98.81000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 98.81000, 24 hour volume: 40195.63814671, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 98.79000, 24 hour vwap: 94.41626
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Apr 01 09:45:05 <jurov>	99
Apr 01 09:45:08 <ThickAsThieves>	mircea_popescu, how do I know what the top payout is for an IDIFF I purchased?
Apr 01 09:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	the top you don't know. you know what the bottom is.
Apr 01 09:45:45 <ChaangNoi>	here comes 100
Apr 01 09:45:53 <ThickAsThieves>	is there a minimum % required?
Apr 01 09:46:12 <ThickAsThieves>	if i buy at .13, top could be .131 then?
Apr 01 09:46:23 <jurov>	99.1 ... wonder what bitcoinity has in store for 100
Apr 01 09:47:00 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves : from the page
Apr 01 09:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	Unlike other futures X.IDIFF.* will require 2.9x the difficulty at last settlement for each quarter out, so for instance if traded in January 2013 X.IDIFF.MAR will require 0.097735278 BTC per contract as collateral whereas X.IDIFF.DEC will require 2.383665695 BTC per contract as collateral (all numeric examples based on 3370182 as last settlement difficulty value).
Apr 01 09:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	if it's current period, 2.9x
Apr 01 09:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	if it's 9 months+ away, 2.9**4x
Apr 01 09:47:30 <jurov>	;;calc 2.9*0.048
Apr 01 09:47:30 <gribble>	0.1392
Apr 01 09:47:37 <ThickAsThieves>	so the JUNE would require 2.9x the sale price?
Apr 01 09:47:40 <jurov>	^ should not be lower than that
Apr 01 09:48:00 <ThickAsThieves>	oh
Apr 01 09:48:03 <jurov>	not sale price. 2.9*current difficulty
Apr 01 09:48:23 <ThickAsThieves>	not current, but most recently settled
Apr 01 09:48:39 <jurov>	ic
Apr 01 09:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	last settlement yes
Apr 01 09:48:51 <ThickAsThieves>	that's a lil gay
Apr 01 09:49:00 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Apr 01 09:49:09 <thestringpuller>	so the difficulty based on futures is going to speculated to be betwen 8.9mn and 45mn....
Apr 01 09:49:35 <jurov>	99.9
Apr 01 09:49:41 <ThickAsThieves>	cuz i bougth june at 0.1375 yesterday
Apr 01 09:49:50 <ThickAsThieves>	so now i'm stuck giving someone a cheap loan
Apr 01 09:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	i don't follow.
Apr 01 09:50:54 <ThickAsThieves>	my max payout is potentially only 1.22% profit
Apr 01 09:51:02 <ThickAsThieves>	for 2mos
Apr 01 09:51:10 <ThickAsThieves>	correct?
Apr 01 09:51:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 100 @ 0.2437597 = 24.376 BTC [+]
Apr 01 09:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	a, possibly.
Apr 01 09:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	much more concerning would be the possibility diff doesn't go over 13.75mn by july tho
Apr 01 09:51:39 <thestringpuller>	why are people buying options so early
Apr 01 09:51:48 <jonny7>	99.95 :)
Apr 01 09:51:53 <ThickAsThieves>	top liability should be disclosed
Apr 01 09:51:55 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 01 09:51:57 <mircea_popescu>	25 days out is early ?!
Apr 01 09:52:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.01000, Best ask: 99.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 99.95156, 24 hour volume: 44641.62362351, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 99.95000, 24 hour vwap: 94.89046
Apr 01 09:52:07 <thestringpuller>	Yea mang
Apr 01 09:52:14 <thestringpuller>	where is smickles when this action is going on
Apr 01 09:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves minimal coverage is discolosed tho, that's what that contract is there for.
Apr 01 09:52:21 <thestringpuller>	I need to interface with his bot
Apr 01 09:52:44 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 01 09:52:45 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 94.69
Apr 01 09:53:06 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 99.9
Apr 01 09:53:06 <ThickAsThieves>	yes, but my bull-in-china-shop approach to things doesn't jive with reading things closely sometimes :/
Apr 01 09:53:09 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 99.9 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 75.3115 seconds
Apr 01 09:53:22 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 01 09:53:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.01000, Best ask: 99.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 99.01000, 24 hour volume: 44641.62362351, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 99.95000, 24 hour vwap: 94.89046
Apr 01 09:54:01 <ThickAsThieves>	if the top liability was disclosed it would allow for better offers as well
Apr 01 09:54:16 <ThickAsThieves>	rather than a minimum
Apr 01 09:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	thanks to bug's support tesla is about to buy apple :D
Apr 01 09:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves ya well, there's no practical way to disclose top exposure tho.
Apr 01 09:55:10 <ThickAsThieves>	add a field for it?
Apr 01 09:55:33 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: now is the time to sell options
Apr 01 09:55:46 <ThickAsThieves>	not to mess with your craiglist approach to feature development or anything :P
Apr 01 09:55:47 <thestringpuller>	buy them toward the end based on the fact the time factor plays a huge role in the pricing
Apr 01 09:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller perhaps.
Apr 01 09:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves it's not just a simple matter of a field.
Apr 01 09:56:39 <ThickAsThieves>	oh i know
Apr 01 09:56:52 <ThickAsThieves>	it's probably also not a a matter of brain surgery
Apr 01 09:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	think about it : today someone makes a 4 quarters out option
Apr 01 09:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	he has to pay 70x last settlement in collateral.
Apr 01 09:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	two quarters pass. diff goes up only 100%
Apr 01 09:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	now, somebody wants to make 1000 options.
Apr 01 09:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	if he has to pay 70x this is absurd
Apr 01 09:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	if he pays less it dillutes the original.
Apr 01 09:58:17 <ThickAsThieves>	they could simply be written as offer price, max payout price, with no relation to past settlements, no?
Apr 01 09:58:54 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Apr 01 09:59:02 <mircea_popescu>	because executions must be allocated uniformly to old and new contracts.
Apr 01 09:59:59 <ThickAsThieves>	if i resell these at .15 and theyre original top is .139, what happens for the new buyer?
Apr 01 10:00:06 <ThickAsThieves>	their*
Apr 01 10:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	he makes .139 if he exercises.
Apr 01 10:00:47 <ThickAsThieves>	si it's possible for me to sell at a price that has 0% of profit
Apr 01 10:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Apr 01 10:00:56 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 01 10:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	it's possible for you to sell at any price you wish,
Apr 01 10:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	as long as someone accepts it
Apr 01 10:01:04 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 01 10:01:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean i understand it, but really i dont
Apr 01 10:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol that's a new one
Apr 01 10:01:56 <mircea_popescu>	let's go through a full example.
Apr 01 10:02:11 <ThickAsThieves>	sure
Apr 01 10:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	today is april 1st. the last settlement was 7mn.
Apr 01 10:02:17 <ThickAsThieves>	lets use my example if possible
Apr 01 10:02:31 <ThickAsThieves>	Buy	 X.IDIFF.JUN	 60	 0.1375	 -8.25
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Apr 01 10:02:40 <mircea_popescu>	if you create one X.IDIFF.MAR future, you will have to pay 2.9**4*.07 as collateral.
Apr 01 10:02:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 2.9**4*.07
Apr 01 10:02:47 <gribble>	4.950967
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Apr 01 10:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	so you deposit 4.95btc, get your X.IDIFF.MAR.
Apr 01 10:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.44699999 = 3.129 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:03:10 *	Guest19252 is now known as Bugpowdurr
Apr 01 10:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	now, nothing happens until February 2014.
Apr 01 10:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	at which point last settlement diff is 16mn.
Apr 01 10:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	how much should someone have to pay per option at that date ?
Apr 01 10:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	as collateral, to create one i mean.
Apr 01 10:03:47 <Bugpowdurr>	;;bids
Apr 01 10:03:47 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 01 10:03:51 <Bugpowdurr>	;;bids 0
Apr 01 10:03:51 <gribble>	There are currently 34918304 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10082902.8829 USD in total. | Data vintage: 74.5978 seconds
Apr 01 10:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.447 = 1.341 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:05:11 <ChaangNoi>	some sill bear is making a new wall lol
Apr 01 10:05:13 <ThickAsThieves>	46400000?
Apr 01 10:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	how did you figure ?
Apr 01 10:05:39 <ThickAsThieves>	16mil times 2.9
Apr 01 10:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	okay.
Apr 01 10:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	now if you had bought a contract back in july thinking it's 4.95 covered
Apr 01 10:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	and someone makes a contract now which is 0.46 covered
Apr 01 10:06:21 <jurov>	100
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Apr 01 10:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	you will only get ~half of what you originally thought you will get.
Apr 01 10:06:40 <ChaangNoi>	fuck yeah
Apr 01 10:06:43 <ChaangNoi>	muhahaha
Apr 01 10:06:46 <pgp>	congrats everyone
Apr 01 10:06:52 <ThickAsThieves>	what i meant was
Apr 01 10:07:03 <ColdHardMetal>	bitcoinity bringing the lulz today.
Apr 01 10:07:10 <ThickAsThieves>	if the futures were simply offered under simpler terms at will, wouldnt that still work
Apr 01 10:07:12 <ThickAsThieves>	as in,
Apr 01 10:07:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i make one anytime i want for any amount, covered to any man payout i want
Apr 01 10:07:37 <ThickAsThieves>	man=max
Apr 01 10:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	so what's the buyer buy ?
Apr 01 10:07:55 <ThickAsThieves>	for example
Apr 01 10:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2850 @ 0.004 = 11.4 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	no example. if you make contracvts any way you want, what's the buyer supposed to buy ?
Apr 01 10:08:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00352101 = 7.042 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.003521 = 5.2815 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:08:11 <ChaangNoi>	4k buy order at 100 nice
Apr 01 10:08:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 43 @ 0.00351201 = 0.151 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032101 = 3.2101 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 18408 @ 0.00310002 = 57.0652 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:08:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6386 @ 0.00310002 = 19.7967 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:08:15 <ChaangNoi>	that wall wont last long
Apr 01 10:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	they obviously become unfungible now.
Apr 01 10:08:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00310001 = 9.3 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:08:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7125 @ 0.0031 = 22.0875 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:08:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 643 @ 0.20288146 = 130.4528 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:08:36 <ThickAsThieves>	i put up collateral for my max payout
Apr 01 10:08:42 <ThickAsThieves>	and make offer below that
Apr 01 10:08:55 <ThickAsThieves>	and disclose max payout
Apr 01 10:09:04 <ThickAsThieves>	then buyer decides value
Apr 01 10:09:08 <pgp>	now what?
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Apr 01 10:09:22 <ThickAsThieves>	like Jurov's
Apr 01 10:09:29 <mircea_popescu>	so each and every single contract has to be specified independently.
Apr 01 10:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	that's not how standardized contracts work.
Apr 01 10:09:42 <ThickAsThieves>	you could have limits if you like
Apr 01 10:09:55 <mircea_popescu>	i do like, and i do have limits.
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Apr 01 10:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	that's exactly it : you know you won't get less than x.
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Apr 01 10:10:31 <jurov>	okay at least could be authoritatively shown
Apr 01 10:10:41 <jurov>	beacuse last settlement was not 0.07 iirc
Apr 01 10:10:49 <jurov>	but 0.048
Apr 01 10:10:54 <ThickAsThieves>	okay but right now no one can offer a reasonable IDIFF for June right?
Apr 01 10:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves why not ?
Apr 01 10:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yeah but mpex is not a datasource.
Apr 01 10:11:23 <ThickAsThieves>	because odds are that the diff will be much higher than your minimum payout
Apr 01 10:11:40 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 100.1
Apr 01 10:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves higher than ~12mn ?
Apr 01 10:11:44 <jurov>	yes mpex is do ur own research
Apr 01 10:11:48 <gribble>	There are currently 1143.0168 bitcoins offered at or under 100.1 USD, worth 114294.520819 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0008 seconds
Apr 01 10:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov like, if you don't know what btc/usd is you can't trade options
Apr 01 10:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4216 = 1.2648 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4215005 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 10:12:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.42150003 = 2.529 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42150001 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.421 = 4.631 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	if you don't know what diff was you can't trade futures
Apr 01 10:12:07 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Apr 01 10:12:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.42 = 2.1 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 10:12:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.41 = 4.1 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.40678129 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.40005 = 1.6002 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 31 @ 0.40000001 = 12.4 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.397 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.396 = 1.98 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:12:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 01 10:12:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 7 @ 0.20551087 = 1.4386 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:12:30 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7647329.85957 based on data since last change | 8527812.32019 based on data for last three days
Apr 01 10:12:42 <ThickAsThieves>	8.5mil coming up
Apr 01 10:12:45 <Bugpowdurr>	;;bids 0
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Apr 01 10:12:45 <gribble>	There are currently 35118439 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9804244.95426 USD in total. | Data vintage: 57.1263 seconds
Apr 01 10:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves obviously it's a trade-off. 2.9 might not be optimal in some fringe cases
Apr 01 10:12:58 <jurov>	mircea_popescu but you know now how easy is to get false information
Apr 01 10:13:00 <ThickAsThieves>	so idiff June at 14mil is useless
Apr 01 10:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	but otherwise it imposes a capital burden on underwriters. so it is guesswork
Apr 01 10:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	jurov how do you mean ?
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Apr 01 10:13:28 <jurov>	you just shoot the 0.07 number which isn't true
Apr 01 10:13:33 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves hopefully the network stabilises and we'll be fine.
Apr 01 10:13:36 <jurov>	if you don't know it, who can?
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Apr 01 10:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i was giving a didactic example.
Apr 01 10:13:45 <mircea_popescu>	i wasn't proposing it's actual case.
Apr 01 10:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	just came up with some numbers.
Apr 01 10:14:21 <jurov>	well, certain MPBPT investors almost felt liek lynching me cuz such "examples"
Apr 01 10:14:28 <jurov>	better clearly mark them
Apr 01 10:15:06 <ThickAsThieves>	do you agree that the odds of IDIFFJUN closing at any sort of profit are nigh impossible?
Apr 01 10:15:08 <jurov>	okay, not to get flamey, for public record:
Apr 01 10:15:26 <jurov>	March settlement was 0.04847647
Apr 01 10:15:37 <jurov>	so minimal JUN collateral is
Apr 01 10:15:46 <jurov>	;;calc 0.04847647*2.9
Apr 01 10:15:46 <gribble>	0.140581763
Apr 01 10:16:19 <ThickAsThieves>	why offer options that are born to lose?
Apr 01 10:16:59 <pizzaman1337>	zomg, bitcoin 100
Apr 01 10:17:04 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 01 10:17:07 <pgp>	here come the post 100 froth...
Apr 01 10:17:08 <ZedsterX>	101 like a shot
Apr 01 10:17:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.00000, Best ask: 100.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 99.98000, 24 hour volume: 53736.31362686, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 100.00000, 24 hour vwap: 95.75237
Apr 01 10:17:56 <Bugpowdurr>	my iphone ticker cant display the price??
Apr 01 10:18:13 <jurov>	maximal collateral would be
Apr 01 10:18:27 <jurov>	;;calc 2.9*2.9*2.9*0.01137814
Apr 01 10:18:27 <gribble>	0.27750145646
Apr 01 10:18:28 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdurr ahaha
Apr 01 10:18:43 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i have no idea. prolly, if any serious hash is delivered.
Apr 01 10:18:45 <jurov>	if i'm taking September 19 into account
Apr 01 10:18:50 <Bugpowdurr>	stuck at 99.98
Apr 01 10:19:14 <ThickAsThieves>	so my point is, change your system to one that works
Apr 01 10:19:19 <ThickAsThieves>	in the real world
Apr 01 10:19:23 <ThickAsThieves>	rather than just on paper
Apr 01 10:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves listen : i could make minimum collateral 1000x.
Apr 01 10:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	then the system "would work" in all fringe cases, except nobody will depost 1k btc for a 1btc contract
Apr 01 10:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	so it wouldn't work at all.
Apr 01 10:19:52 <ThickAsThieves>	you are jumping to extremes
Apr 01 10:20:01 <ThickAsThieves>	there's lotsa room in the middle
Apr 01 10:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	of course i am. this is exactly what we have here, an extreme
Apr 01 10:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	ie, a case where diff increases > 3x during 3 months. this isn't normal.
Apr 01 10:20:32 <ThickAsThieves>	it's normal all year most likely
Apr 01 10:20:44 <ThickAsThieves>	would you prefer the futures be useless all year?
Apr 01 10:21:06 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not increasing collateral maargin for the simple reason that even as it is underwriting is dismal.
Apr 01 10:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	so it'd be pointless pretty much.
Apr 01 10:21:11 <jurov>	for me it would be sufficient if mp publishes basic data, like past settlement values or option autoexercise vwap prices
Apr 01 10:21:29 <jurov>	or if that's beyond mpex mission, then don't show dividends either
Apr 01 10:21:45 <ThickAsThieves>	just feels stubborn to me, you could be offering a feature that people would use much more
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Apr 01 10:21:54 <mircea_popescu>	jurov dividends are shown as the sum of div transactions in mpex.
Apr 01 10:21:57 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 110
Apr 01 10:22:01 <gribble>	There are currently 8865.2797 bitcoins offered at or under 110.0 USD, worth 940190.755187 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.5899 seconds
Apr 01 10:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves you are not reading it seems. CURRENTLY, at 2.9x, NOBODY is underwrtiting it.
Apr 01 10:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	if it were 3.1x, even less than nobody would be underwriting it.
Apr 01 10:22:26 <mircea_popescu>	do you follow that ?
Apr 01 10:22:59 <ThickAsThieves>	you are interpreting my solution as only a change in min collateral
Apr 01 10:23:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i never suggested that
Apr 01 10:23:18 <ThickAsThieves>	you did
Apr 01 10:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	ok, well... the other thing i got was "make each idifff a different, user specified contract"
Apr 01 10:23:33 <mircea_popescu>	this doesn't work, because market traded contracts have to be standardised.
Apr 01 10:23:35 <mircea_popescu>	ie, all the same.
Apr 01 10:23:38 <ThickAsThieves>	at the core, what i'm syaing is, make them usable
Apr 01 10:23:48 <mircea_popescu>	that's like saying grow tits.
Apr 01 10:23:55 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 01 10:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	or you know, make pigs fly.
Apr 01 10:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	sure, why not.
Apr 01 10:24:09 <ThickAsThieves>	not quite
Apr 01 10:24:12 <mircea_popescu>	well ?
Apr 01 10:24:18 <ThickAsThieves>	then why do jurov's work fine?
Apr 01 10:24:34 <ThickAsThieves>	he has extra tits?
Apr 01 10:24:40 <jurov>	cuz i'm using abhorrent practice of magic numbers
Apr 01 10:25:00 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 10:25:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.98001, Best ask: 101.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 101.00000, 24 hour volume: 54713.02069310, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 101.00000, 24 hour vwap: 95.83748
Apr 01 10:25:42 <jurov>	and also marketmaking them
Apr 01 10:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	define "Work fine" in this context
Apr 01 10:26:20 <ThickAsThieves>	they use a price that is reasonable, for a potential payout that is reasonable
Apr 01 10:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	can you underwrite some with jurov and sell them to him ?
Apr 01 10:26:41 <ThickAsThieves>	if i asked him maybe
Apr 01 10:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	without asking him.
Apr 01 10:26:48 <mircea_popescu>	through a process.
Apr 01 10:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise this is simply an otc trade.
Apr 01 10:26:57 <ThickAsThieves>	ok, you need a NEW process
Apr 01 10:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	no. i have a process, he is doing otc.
Apr 01 10:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	this is perfectly fine, but they are different things.
Apr 01 10:27:27 <ThickAsThieves>	for example, you could say DIFF futures can be written at any price, but you must offer 125% collateral for potential profit of buyer
Apr 01 10:27:34 <ThickAsThieves>	you can still limit close dates
Apr 01 10:27:37 <ThickAsThieves>	and increments
Apr 01 10:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	125% OF WHAT.
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Apr 01 10:27:52 <ThickAsThieves>	underwriters chosen price
Apr 01 10:27:56 <mircea_popescu>	...
Apr 01 10:28:00 <jurov>	that's a point. but converting it into a process would be easy if ukto makes apis public.
Apr 01 10:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	so if you choose 1 satoshi ?
Apr 01 10:28:08 <jurov>	the conditions are clear.
Apr 01 10:28:11 <ThickAsThieves>	then no one will buy
Apr 01 10:28:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.2899 = 0.5798 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:28:19 <mircea_popescu>	you're not thinking very well.
Apr 01 10:28:26 <mircea_popescu>	he makes the chosen price 1  satoshi, deposts 1.25 satoshi per
Apr 01 10:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	then sells them for .05 btc each and withdraws.
Apr 01 10:28:39 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 01 10:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	you've just made mpex bankrupt.
Apr 01 10:28:42 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 01 10:28:55 <ThickAsThieves>	sells them for 1 satishi
Apr 01 10:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	so what, if he cancels the bid the futures dissapear from his account ?
Apr 01 10:29:21 <ThickAsThieves>	so you make the minimum price the current diff
Apr 01 10:29:26 <mircea_popescu>	o i see.
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Apr 01 10:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	well here's the beauty : this is already implemented.
Apr 01 10:29:42 <mircea_popescu>	he has to deposit 290% of the PREVIOUS DIFF
Apr 01 10:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	bam.
Apr 01 10:30:00 <ThickAsThieves>	previous = current now?
Apr 01 10:30:01 <ThickAsThieves>	nope
Apr 01 10:30:06 <mircea_popescu>	last settlement.
Apr 01 10:30:06 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 01 10:30:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.05100, Best ask: 101.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.44900, Last trade: 101.05100, 24 hour volume: 56319.87614438, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 101.00000, 24 hour vwap: 95.98390
Apr 01 10:30:21 <ThickAsThieves>	why does last settlement matter to anyone?
Apr 01 10:30:23 <deadweasel>	boom.  triple digits.
Apr 01 10:30:30 <mircea_popescu>	yay
Apr 01 10:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves that's how futurtes work. settlement to settlement.
Apr 01 10:30:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.15299 = 0.765 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:30:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 8 @ 0.153 = 1.224 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:30:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.154 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:30:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 6 @ 0.155 = 0.93 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:31:44 <ThickAsThieves>	it's okay, i see your take on it, and wanting to use hard numbers, but all i'm trying to do is get you to open the idea of finding a formula that is more likely to be useful in the current environment
Apr 01 10:32:00 <jurov>	i don't see a problem with formula
Apr 01 10:32:20 <jurov>	just that it needs research what the previous settlements were
Apr 01 10:32:33 <ThickAsThieves>	how would you change it
Apr 01 10:32:55 <jurov>	then investor comes to result that it's covered somewhere between 0.14 and 0.27
Apr 01 10:33:19 <jurov>	then asks mp, how much it is exactly, mp refuses
Apr 01 10:33:28 <jurov>	so investor goes away
Apr 01 10:33:51 <jurov>	unnecessarily complicated process, i say
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Apr 01 10:34:37 <ThickAsThieves>	man, those sure are some cheap IDIFFJUN futures listed, someone should snatch them up
Apr 01 10:34:42 <jurov>	just cuz "mpex isnt data platform"
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Apr 01 10:37:06 <jurov>	or perhaps mp expects someone other do do all the computations and dirty work, but that isn't working
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Apr 01 10:37:26 <jurov>	few fools are willing to invest into anything mpex-related
Apr 01 10:37:31 <jborkl>	micrea_popescu, can I get a deposit cleared
Apr 01 10:39:31 <ThickAsThieves>	litecoin singularity
Apr 01 10:39:41 <ThickAsThieves>	.0145 BTC/LTC
Apr 01 10:40:09 <ChaangNoi>	yeah
Apr 01 10:40:16 <ChaangNoi>	it is awesomely insane
Apr 01 10:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed.
Apr 01 10:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i don't think that's particularly fair.
Apr 01 10:40:26 <jborkl>	Thanks
Apr 01 10:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	for one settlement was announced in here when it happened.
Apr 01 10:40:34 <ChaangNoi>	ltc goes from 5 cents to $1.40 in no time
Apr 01 10:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	for the other, just read the graph wtf.
Apr 01 10:40:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00401 = 0.0201 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:40:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 53 @ 0.004005 = 0.2123 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:40:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 815 @ 0.004 = 3.26 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:40:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 99 @ 0.004 = 0.396 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves the 15.8mn ? so get them
Apr 01 10:41:56 <ThickAsThieves>	they are worthless no?
Apr 01 10:42:10 <ThickAsThieves>	well, worth less
Apr 01 10:42:15 <ThickAsThieves>	right?
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Apr 01 10:43:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74996 BTC [-]
Apr 01 10:43:19 <ThickAsThieves>	their max payout is last settlement * 2.9, which is < the sell price
Apr 01 10:43:56 <jurov>	i know i'm unfair and disgruntled sometimes... but you seem really to have a problem even to hire PR and evangelist
Apr 01 10:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	jurov how is this my problem you figure ?
Apr 01 10:44:29 <jurov>	as as a someone who tried to "evangelize" MPEx i think i know why
Apr 01 10:44:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6300 @ 0.00367331 = 23.1419 BTC [+]
Apr 01 10:44:44 <mircea_popescu>	you go to finance conferences ?!
Apr 01 10:45:06 <jurov>	not, just some meetings
Apr 01 10:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	kay...
Apr 01 10:45:25 <mircea_popescu>	so what do you know ?
Apr 01 10:45:33 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Apr 01 10:45:39 <gribble>	73.292636 seconds
Apr 01 10:45:56 <jurov>	well, i explain what i'm doing, what is mpex
Apr 01 10:46:18 <jurov>	dig some links deep from trilema, praying they don't hit the paywall
Apr 01 10:46:47 <jurov>	am asked to explain who is this mircea popescu again, i handwave it
Apr 01 10:47:22 <jurov>	then they find out about MPOE-PR :)
Apr 01 10:47:40 <jurov>	or even if they can get past her
Apr 01 10:48:02 <jurov>	"what? so all there is is option speculation, betting site and casino?"
Apr 01 10:48:10 <pizzaman1337>	lol
Apr 01 10:48:15 <pizzaman1337>	idiff
Apr 01 10:48:40 <jurov>	i know it's unfair judgement, but i just aren;t apt enough to explain past that point
Apr 01 10:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	who are these people ?
Apr 01 10:49:23 <jurov>	not bankers. managers of small/medium IT companies
Apr 01 10:49:45 <jurov>	but it don't think bankers would be much different even if i could reach them
Apr 01 10:50:17 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 01 10:50:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 103.90000, Best ask: 104.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 103.90000, 24 hour volume: 60517.76520989, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 104.00000, 24 hour vwap: 96.47673
Apr 01 10:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	but i mean...
Apr 01 10:50:31 <pizzaman1337>	love this price action
Apr 01 10:50:40 <ChaangNoi>	lol ltc not going to stop
Apr 01 10:50:57 <ThickAsThieves>	chaang, the walls are being torn to bits!
Apr 01 10:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	i read this and what i see is "i couldn't make people living in queens understand what the schmier is with stock options. i'm sure high powered executives would bne the same"
Apr 01 10:51:08 <mircea_popescu>	what sense does that make
Apr 01 10:51:43 <jurov>	okay, maybe thare is a big difference, i don't know
Apr 01 10:51:59 <jurov>	just my small queens reality
Apr 01 10:52:18 <jurov>	makes me bitter :(
Apr 01 10:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	don't get bitter.
Apr 01 10:52:41 *	rdponticelli_ is now known as rdponticelli
Apr 01 10:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	understand : the general public is very dangeours (chiefly to itself) in any sort of functionuing marketplace.
Apr 01 10:53:38 <mircea_popescu>	we'll have to take them in slowly and selectively.
Apr 01 10:54:15 <jurov>	it occurs to me you want to skip mass market completely and soar directly into high finance
Apr 01 10:54:27 <jurov>	do you have previous experience with such?
Apr 01 10:55:03 <grubles>	hundred dolla bill yo
Apr 01 10:55:58 <ThickAsThieves>	''ticker
Apr 01 10:56:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 01 10:56:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 103.47500, Best ask: 103.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02500, Last trade: 103.50000, 24 hour volume: 60517.76520989, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 104.00000, 24 hour vwap: 96.47673
Apr 01 10:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	there's no mass market of bitcoin securities ;/
Apr 01 10:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	and yes, but local and mostly unofficial.
Apr 01 10:57:43 <jurov>	i mean, buffett can say "2.9x last settlement value" and everyone can easily look up authoritative source
Apr 01 10:57:59 <mircea_popescu>	i admit the 2.9x is just some number i took out of my ass.
Apr 01 10:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	(well, we had a board meeting, but anyway)
Apr 01 10:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	what'd you want me do  ? i can't increase it.
Apr 01 10:58:26 <jurov>	they have something to bootfstrap from. but for bitcoin best i can find is some google spreadsheet of past difficulty values
Apr 01 10:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	um
Apr 01 10:58:41 <mircea_popescu>	there's sipa's thing no ?
Apr 01 10:58:56 <jurov>	is he providing csv or like?
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Apr 01 10:59:35 <jurov>	this by Stephen Gornick: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AmcTCtjBoRWUdHVRMHpqWUJValI1RlZiaEtCT1RrQmc
Apr 01 10:59:35 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps best to ask him, buit in general speaking the problems of access to market data
Apr 01 10:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	while significant for a trading place, are NOT to be solved by the trading place itself.
Apr 01 10:59:55 <mircea_popescu>	it's very important to have sepparate data feeds and trading,
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Apr 01 11:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	because it insulates from market manipulation accusations.
Apr 01 11:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	or in other words : my insistence in implementing correct designs or nothing at all, and decentralisations such as these may make me look like an idiot today
Apr 01 11:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	but i'm pretty darned certain will save everyone a shitton of sweat, blood and tears in five years.
Apr 01 11:01:59 <ThickAsThieves>	no data feed needed to fix diff futures
Apr 01 11:02:31 <ThickAsThieves>	but they would indeed need more than a factor change
Apr 01 11:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves you still haven't solidified your idea into something we can discuss tho.
Apr 01 11:03:03 <ThickAsThieves>	what if you play devils advocate
Apr 01 11:03:08 <ThickAsThieves>	and do better than me
Apr 01 11:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	ya, see, this doesn't work as an approach. i mean it's prolly fine in middle school or w/e, but i'm not 14.
Apr 01 11:03:42 <ThickAsThieves>	that matters?
Apr 01 11:03:47 <ThickAsThieves>	this isnt school
Apr 01 11:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	well yes, it does. if i had a better way i'd be doing it.
Apr 01 11:04:01 <mircea_popescu>	what did you think ?
Apr 01 11:04:03 <ThickAsThieves>	just a customer urging for evolution of your features and offers
Apr 01 11:04:24 <ThickAsThieves>	so you are saying there is absolutely no room for improvement?
Apr 01 11:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	that's fine, but it seems to me like a case of "you should improve your exchange so everybody makes money on all trades"
Apr 01 11:04:37 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Apr 01 11:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	it's a nice sentiment, but fundamentally unworkable.
Apr 01 11:04:44 <ThickAsThieves>	so they are desirable at all
Apr 01 11:04:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i wanna be able to lose money and make moneyt
Apr 01 11:04:55 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves what concrete improvement you desire?
Apr 01 11:04:57 <ThickAsThieves>	rather than just lose money
Apr 01 11:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, specify something i can follow.
Apr 01 11:05:25 <jurov>	like I said concretely "publish last settlement values".
Apr 01 11:05:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [+]
Apr 01 11:05:41 <ThickAsThieves>	add a factor for volatility from one settlement to the next?
Apr 01 11:06:05 <ThickAsThieves>	then you dont need outside data
Apr 01 11:06:11 <ThickAsThieves>	but can stay more dynamic
Apr 01 11:06:16 <mircea_popescu>	what's the 2.9x ?
Apr 01 11:06:30 <ThickAsThieves>	arbitrary?
Apr 01 11:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	yes, but is it a factor for volatility from one settlement to the next.
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Apr 01 11:06:56 <ThickAsThieves>	use two settlements as data points
Apr 01 11:07:00 <ThickAsThieves>	or 3 even
Apr 01 11:07:06 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Apr 01 11:07:15 <ThickAsThieves>	to make your factor dynamic
Apr 01 11:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	i mean i could use all 4 (barring the fact that currenlty we only have 1 anyway)
Apr 01 11:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	and that may be a good idea, but won't really be worth discussing for about another year
Apr 01 11:07:55 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, that ould make sense only if there was some discernible trend
Apr 01 11:08:12 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i think his presumption is that diff can not go down
Apr 01 11:08:22 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 01 11:08:23 <mircea_popescu>	this is liable to be correct for as long as mining is still immature obviously.
Apr 01 11:08:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i want a formula that is more representative of trend
Apr 01 11:08:41 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 115
Apr 01 11:08:58 <gribble>	There are currently 11527.345 bitcoins offered at or under 115.0 USD, worth 1246988.35026 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds
Apr 01 11:08:59 <ThickAsThieves>	last settlement is not enough
Apr 01 11:09:15 <Bugpowdurr>	;;ticker
Apr 01 11:09:21 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, go make one yourself. you'll be rich
Apr 01 11:09:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.10001, Best ask: 101.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89999, Last trade: 100.10001, 24 hour volume: 65241.37945590, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 97.05058
Apr 01 11:09:28 <Bugpowdurr>	my precious
Apr 01 11:09:30 <ThickAsThieves>	what if you settled every diff change?
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Apr 01 11:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be incredibly short term
Apr 01 11:09:55 <bitessak>	;;goxlag
Apr 01 11:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	i'd need ~30 or so items in a year
Apr 01 11:10:00 <gribble>	0 seconds
Apr 01 11:10:03 <ThickAsThieves>	but you'd have many more options forward
Apr 01 11:10:05 <ChaangNoi>	hmm back under 100? :)
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Apr 01 11:10:07 <mircea_popescu>	not to mention we don't even know how many exactly.
Apr 01 11:10:11 <bitessak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 11:10:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.74996 = 5.9997 BTC [-]
Apr 01 11:10:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74997 BTC [+]
Apr 01 11:10:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 26 @ 0.74998 = 19.4995 BTC [+]
Apr 01 11:10:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.01000, Best ask: 100.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.98900, Last trade: 100.99900, 24 hour volume: 66370.06016972, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 97.11111
Apr 01 11:11:39 <ThickAsThieves>	if yo arent willing to use outside data, arent willing to settle more often, arent willing to make factor more dynamic, then that rules out my current ideas but one
Apr 01 11:11:46 <ThickAsThieves>	just making them entrely custom
Apr 01 11:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00060388 = 5.3141 BTC [+]
Apr 01 11:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00060609 = 13.1522 BTC [+]
Apr 01 11:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00060809 = 0.6081 BTC [+]
Apr 01 11:12:18 <ThickAsThieves>	write it for sale at any price, but you must be able to cover a minimum % on top iof it
Apr 01 11:12:26 <ThickAsThieves>	disclose both
Apr 01 11:12:31 <ThickAsThieves>	then let buyer decide
Apr 01 11:12:37 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves: other exchanges would probably welcome your completely customized futures
Apr 01 11:13:03 <ThickAsThieves>	well yours already work fine
Apr 01 11:13:34 <smickles>	oh shit
Apr 01 11:13:36 <jurov>	but even i don't offer such customizability "cover up to whatever you want"
Apr 01 11:13:43 <jurov>	that would be a mess
Apr 01 11:13:47 <smickles>	i wake up to nyancat and the joker on bitcoinity
Apr 01 11:14:06 <ThickAsThieves>	you could limit the parameters of what was custom
Apr 01 11:14:06 <thestringpuller>	smickles: hey hey
Apr 01 11:14:09 <thestringpuller>	see my om
Apr 01 11:14:11 <thestringpuller>	om
Apr 01 11:14:13 <smickles>	kk
Apr 01 11:14:16 <ThickAsThieves>	like increments or such
Apr 01 11:14:19 <thestringpuller>	pm*
Apr 01 11:14:24 <ThickAsThieves>	doesnt have to be total free for all
Apr 01 11:15:00 <jurov>	i'd then have to list multiple securities, with different collaterals
Apr 01 11:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, all that aside, the idiff futures are largely an experimental asset, so
Apr 01 11:15:19 <jurov>	two with fixed one are enough
Apr 01 11:15:55 <splnkr>	so, we finally broke 100….anyone win any bets on that one?
Apr 01 11:16:01 <ThickAsThieves>	in the end i'm just asking for a way to spend more on mpex :)
Apr 01 11:16:10 <jurov>	lol
Apr 01 11:16:23 <ThickAsThieves>	so give it to me baby
Apr 01 11:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	splnkr probably.
Apr 01 11:16:36 <jurov>	make it more like satoshidice, you say
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Apr 01 11:16:50 <ThickAsThieves>	not exactly
Apr 01 11:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163260.0
Apr 01 11:17:03 <ThickAsThieves>	but there is certainly a betting platform idea in there somewhere
Apr 01 11:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	this is something else
Apr 01 11:17:34 <smickles>	oh... it's nyanslug for the lag
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Apr 01 11:18:27 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 01 11:18:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.50000, Best ask: 100.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 100.90000, 24 hour volume: 66370.06016972, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 97.11111
Apr 01 11:19:13 <ThickAsThieves>	lol:
Apr 01 11:19:14 <ThickAsThieves>	11:16] <AssetBot> [ZigGap] 1500000.0 @ 0.00000152 = 2.28000000 [-]
Apr 01 11:19:14 <ThickAsThieves>	[11:16] <AssetBot> [ZigGap] 3000000.0 @ 0.00000151 = 4.53000000 [-]
Apr 01 11:19:15 <ThickAsThieves>	[11:16] <AssetBot> [ZigGap] 190000.0 @ 0.00000150 = 0.28500000 [-]
Apr 01 11:19:30 <ThickAsThieves>	that hurts
Apr 01 11:20:02 <ChaangNoi>	zipgap?
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Apr 01 11:20:45 <ThickAsThieves>	they are on BF
Apr 01 11:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	is this the dead asset deprived was discussing ?
Apr 01 11:21:05 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Apr 01 11:21:08 <ChaangNoi>	i never invested or even heard of that
Apr 01 11:21:11 <ThickAsThieves>	ipo was at .0005
Apr 01 11:21:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P080T] 5 @ 0.0753858 = 0.3769 BTC
Apr 01 11:21:15 <jborkl>	ziggap is down for maint. be back soon
Apr 01 11:21:16 <ThickAsThieves>	oops
Apr 01 11:21:20 <jborkl>	oops
Apr 01 11:21:20 <ThickAsThieves>	.00005
Apr 01 11:21:27 <ChaangNoi>	.005 damn
Apr 01 11:21:41 <ChaangNoi>	better but still  not fun
Apr 01 11:21:43 <Bugpowdurr>	http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TSLA
Apr 01 11:21:44 <ThickAsThieves>	second round was at .0001
Apr 01 11:21:46 <ChaangNoi>	was it a scam?
Apr 01 11:21:49 <ThickAsThieves>	all sold out
Apr 01 11:21:53 <Bugpowdurr>	yes of course it was a scam
Apr 01 11:21:55 <_aeon>	https://b1tm3.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/a-visit-to-mt-gox/
Apr 01 11:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdurr your habit of logging in and then dropping makes you lose out.
Apr 01 11:22:12 <_aeon>	First we need to get everything stabilized with licensing and we are considering creating entities around the world with the correct licensing, which is a lot of work. Sometimes it’s less work, e.g. in Europe where you get a license for one country it’s valid within the EU, but in the US you need to get a license from every single state. It means you need an office in every single state, you need to discuss with every single state
Apr 01 11:22:12 <_aeon>	 conditions, there are a lot of differences between them… It’s a nightmare. That’s one reason why we want Coinlab to do it for us: it’s too much work.”
Apr 01 11:22:16 <mircea_popescu>	Apr 01 15:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder : here's an idea : make hashing processors out of dragonfly brains.
Apr 01 11:22:20 <Bugpowdurr>	I do feel like a loser
Apr 01 11:22:50 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowdurr: all your predictions jave come true
Apr 01 11:22:52 <bitessak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 11:22:57 <thestringpuller>	you are the oracle
Apr 01 11:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	_aeon are you related to ziggap ?
Apr 01 11:22:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.75000, Best ask: 100.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 100.50000, 24 hour volume: 66370.06016972, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 97.11111
Apr 01 11:23:00 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.msg1715159#msg1715159
Apr 01 11:23:07 <thestringpuller>	guide us o wise one
Apr 01 11:23:09 <_aeon>	no affiliations
Apr 01 11:23:13 <mircea_popescu>	a ok.
Apr 01 11:23:16 <thestringpuller>	ziggap is plummeting
Apr 01 11:23:19 <Bugpowdurr>	buy calls
Apr 01 11:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	" you need to discuss with every single state" ya dood, i'm sure every single state is discussing shit with every single bootstrapped project.
Apr 01 11:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	also for the record : mtgox failed to get registered in europe, got kicked out of france,
Apr 01 11:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	are currently using some eastern european banks which allows them to skirt it.
Apr 01 11:24:36 <ThickAsThieves>	i can buy calls with the 45btc i just made on ltc
Apr 01 11:24:37 <Scrat>	Re: ziggap, aethero said 3 days ago in -otc that his HDD crashed
Apr 01 11:24:42 <Scrat>	hasn't been online since
Apr 01 11:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	course their usual lieing sort of bs suggests they do have eu licenses.
Apr 01 11:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.004 = 1.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 11:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat a my bad, brain confused aeon/aethero
Apr 01 11:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.0006 = 12 BTC [-]
Apr 01 11:25:35 <Scrat>	;;seen #bitcoin-otc aethero
Apr 01 11:25:35 <gribble>	aethero was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 2 days, 20 hours, 14 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <aethero> bubble popped
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Apr 01 11:25:55 <burnside>	damn, ziggap.com down again
Apr 01 11:26:17 <thestringpuller>	buy puts on ziggap!
Apr 01 11:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	"Obama Proclaims April the Month to Teach Young People ‘How to Budget Responsibly’"
Apr 01 11:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	best april fool's ever.
Apr 01 11:26:33 <bitessak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 11:26:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.95348, Best ask: 99.98345, Bid-ask spread: 0.02997, Last trade: 99.95348, 24 hour volume: 67981.72491317, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 97.21329
Apr 01 11:26:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 9 @ 0.00479 = 0.0431 BTC [-]
Apr 01 11:27:11 <Bugpowdurr>	well
Apr 01 11:27:16 <Bugpowdurr>	that was fun while it lasted
Apr 01 11:27:36 <Bugpowdurr>	what if today is the top
Apr 01 11:27:40 <Bugpowdurr>	how sad a thought
Apr 01 11:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	obviously it was going to get kicked back as soon as it went over 100
Apr 01 11:27:54 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdurr the puts covered earlier so dunno about that.
Apr 01 11:28:33 <Bugpowdurr>	everytime I have a sad thought like that I imagine being in position 8500 in the gox verification queue, then I get a little happier
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Apr 01 11:29:41 <Bugpowdurr>	;;bids 90
Apr 01 11:29:44 <gribble>	There are currently 25109.349 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 2313401.22003 USD in total. | Data vintage: 76.7031 seconds
Apr 01 11:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 01 11:30:06 <ThickAsThieves>	wow
Apr 01 11:30:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 01 11:30:40 <gribble>	62054.1218082
Apr 01 11:30:43 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Apr 01 11:30:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 01 11:30:57 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7667060.77584 based on data since last change | 8668728.39687 based on data for last three days
Apr 01 11:31:33 <ThickAsThieves>	can't believe how cheap those idiff futures are!  :)
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Apr 01 11:40:15 <Bugpowdurr>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crXK49f9kQg
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Apr 01 11:41:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 918 @ 0.00380051 = 3.4889 BTC [-]
Apr 01 11:41:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00374009 = 6.7322 BTC [-]
Apr 01 11:41:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0037005 = 7.401 BTC [-]
Apr 01 11:43:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Apr 01 11:45:02 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Apr 01 11:45:05 <mpexbot>	smickles: 557
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Apr 01 11:48:49 <DeaDTerra>	WTS G.SDICE,GSDPT,G.MPOE,G.BBET, BTCQuick and TU.Silver shares!
Apr 01 11:50:37 <ZedsterX>	so DICE is just dead?
Apr 01 11:50:53 <ZedsterX>	people can't sell it fast enough
Apr 01 11:50:57 <Bugpowdurr>	well
Apr 01 11:51:07 <Bugpowdurr>	gotta get capital to buy calls dude
Apr 01 11:51:34 <DeaDTerra>	Nah DICE is not dead
Apr 01 11:51:39 <DeaDTerra>	just having a bad month
Apr 01 11:51:49 <ZedsterX>	i was sure it would bounce back a bit at the the of the month but no luck
Apr 01 11:52:18 <jborkl>	Dice still profited over 100,000k USD, on a bad month
Apr 01 11:52:29 <ZedsterX>	and ppl still dump
Apr 01 11:52:47 <jborkl>	well,people can not see past tomorrow
Apr 01 11:52:55 <jborkl>	but w\e
Apr 01 11:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [-]
Apr 01 11:53:17 <ZedsterX>	i thought most ppl in the this game were better than that and i don't know squat
Apr 01 11:53:41 <ZedsterX>	I will ride it for another month see what happens
Apr 01 11:53:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74998 BTC [+]
Apr 01 11:53:47 <Troic>	any body have any clues/ideas on the further development that EV was hinting about ?
Apr 01 11:54:18 <ZedsterX>	he has been talking new interface for 2 months
Apr 01 11:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	Troic nope.
Apr 01 11:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.481 = 1.443 BTC [-]
Apr 01 11:55:03 <jborkl>	I would imagine it has to do with return bet amounts and compression/reducing bloat
Apr 01 11:55:04 <Troic>	'(and this will be more relevant due to other developments we have in mind...).' is suppose 'in mind' is not in the works
Apr 01 11:55:40 <smickles>	Bugpowdurr: there is more too the calc for the number of puts than just strike/spot !
Apr 01 11:56:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 51 @ 0.48 = 24.48 BTC [-]
Apr 01 11:56:19 <jborkl>	and you have to remember, for every seller of SDICE- there is a buyer on the other side
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Apr 01 12:09:02 <ThickAsThieves>	again, no love for MP http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/1/4154500/mt-gox-barons-of-bitcoin
Apr 01 12:09:19 <ThickAsThieves>	i tried emailing them for you MP, I did!
Apr 01 12:10:57 <ThickAsThieves>	almost had an interview set up for ya, but they said your diff futures made no sense and lol'd me away
Apr 01 12:11:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;)
Apr 01 12:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yeah, i care deeply about the knitting circle.
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Apr 01 12:14:02 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves> $avgpc << $avg
Apr 01 12:14:10 <microhxo>	Is coinbase down for purchasing coins right now?
Apr 01 12:14:14 <smickles>	oh, i see now you figured itout
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Apr 01 12:16:57 <microhxo>	Anyone having trouble with coinbase?
Apr 01 12:17:59 <deadweasel>	coinbase is fucked.
Apr 01 12:18:15 <deadweasel>	move your coins ASAP and find another avenue for purchase/sell
Apr 01 12:18:28 <microhxo>	Any recommendations ?
Apr 01 12:18:47 <DeaDTerra>	Starcraft two tournament with Bitcoin prize pool starts in 42 Minutes.
Apr 01 12:18:48 <DeaDTerra>	Join us at sc2btc.com :D
Apr 01 12:19:12 <deadweasel>	I'll defer to others on that microhxo..  I haven't bought in a while.  Try getting verified on btcquick.com
Apr 01 12:19:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.74 = 4.44 BTC [-]
Apr 01 12:19:31 <thestringpuller>	MP I have interview with CNN Online for you.
Apr 01 12:19:37 <thestringpuller>	I know you hate them.
Apr 01 12:20:29 <ChaangNoi>	dont use gox...
Apr 01 12:20:48 <ThickAsThieves>	smickles, i just searched for the last time you made the command :)
Apr 01 12:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	microhxo where are you based ?
Apr 01 12:21:27 <microhxo>	USA
Apr 01 12:21:37 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowdurr: being a bio man, I would think you would program elaborate trading bots...
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Apr 01 12:21:46 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, i was only joking on that link because while you dont care about the knitting circle, you are indeed looking for press nonetheless right?
Apr 01 12:21:47 <microhxo>	coinbase worked fine for me, was quick too but my friend wants to buy some and it says they dont have any more coins atm.
Apr 01 12:22:01 <thestringpuller>	coinbase never has enough coins
Apr 01 12:22:03 <microhxo>	whats wrong with gox?
Apr 01 12:22:16 <thestringpuller>	they only buy based on user demand
Apr 01 12:22:20 <thestringpuller>	that way they never lose money
Apr 01 12:22:28 <microhxo>	It seems like ALL sites have no coins right now.
Apr 01 12:22:50 <microhxo>	even btcquick is sold out...
Apr 01 12:23:18 <thestringpuller>	there will be another buy spree
Apr 01 12:23:25 <smickles>	DeaDTerra: liquid is involved in it?
Apr 01 12:23:29 <thestringpuller>	when the companies buy coins
Apr 01 12:23:34 <smickles>	or just one of their players?
Apr 01 12:23:36 <microhxo>	So for USA
Apr 01 12:23:43 <microhxo>	what is the goto site to buy bitcoins?
Apr 01 12:23:46 <thestringpuller>	campbx
Apr 01 12:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves sure.
Apr 01 12:24:05 <Bugpowdurr>	thestringpuller: I have a MATLAB based mpex bot
Apr 01 12:24:13 <Bugpowdurr>	but, not using right now
Apr 01 12:24:13 <thestringpuller>	That's sexy.
Apr 01 12:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	microhxo USA is a little iffy, might want to give otc a try tho
Apr 01 12:24:32 <thestringpuller>	Take dat girl and parallelize her in CUDA
Apr 01 12:24:41 <microhxo>	otc?
Apr 01 12:24:42 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowdurr: ever seen libjacket?
Apr 01 12:24:45 <Bugpowdurr>	The 10% of capital in calls and the rest in cold storage plan is working well.
Apr 01 12:24:54 <Bugpowdurr>	nah I am not a real programmer
Apr 01 12:24:57 <Bugpowdurr>	only matlab
Apr 01 12:25:45 <Bugpowdurr>	;;bids 0
Apr 01 12:25:52 <gribble>	There are currently 51593462 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10104543.0415 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0097 seconds
Apr 01 12:26:00 <deadweasel>	whoa
Apr 01 12:26:01 <Bugpowdurr>	yeah boyeee
Apr 01 12:26:03 <Bugpowdurr>	1.01
Apr 01 12:26:06 <Bugpowdurr>	10.1
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Apr 01 12:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	microhxo yes, otc stands for over the counter. there's this system of trading btc with other parties, based on the wot
Apr 01 12:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	(web of trust)
Apr 01 12:26:30 <mircea_popescu>	it has a number of advantages but takes a little work.
Apr 01 12:26:30 <microhxo>	sounds risky..
Apr 01 12:26:37 <Bugpowdurr>	110 could be in play today
Apr 01 12:26:40 <mircea_popescu>	it may be, at least to begin with.
Apr 01 12:27:03 <microhxo>	Also I can only pay with paypal on that. No way am i giving bank acct info out. And i know no one wants to accept paypal because its reversible.
Apr 01 12:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	a yes.
Apr 01 12:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox takes pp ?!
Apr 01 12:27:28 <microhxo>	Dont believe so
Apr 01 12:27:35 <mircea_popescu>	o i see what you mean.
Apr 01 12:27:43 <deadweasel>	microhxo: manage your risk.  You will always have risk with BTC (or USD)
Apr 01 12:27:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, in the us you're probably stuck with mtgox
Apr 01 12:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	as a retail buyer
Apr 01 12:27:54 <microhxo>	yea
Apr 01 12:28:15 <Bugpowdurr>	localbitcoins is great if you are in a major metro area
Apr 01 12:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	or that yea
Apr 01 12:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	meet some hawt chick in a restaurant
Apr 01 12:28:30 <deadweasel>	or keep hammering coinbase, they have a rolling 24 hr limit which could reset at any moment.  You can check them hourly and try to buy... but that is just lame.
Apr 01 12:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	(if localbitcoins had any clue they'd do that)
Apr 01 12:30:52 <thestringpuller>	There are currently 51593462 bitcoins demanded <- More bitcoins are demanded than will ever exist, thus circulation?
Apr 01 12:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.584885 = 9.943 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	5mn ?
Apr 01 12:32:04 <jurov>	that's 51m
Apr 01 12:32:16 <thestringpuller>	yup
Apr 01 12:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Apr 01 12:32:25 <thestringpuller>	51mn bitcoins are currently demanded.
Apr 01 12:32:34 <thestringpuller>	So the price has to go up...
Apr 01 12:32:40 <jurov>	that are just buyers expectations
Apr 01 12:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	well im guessing some of the bids won't get filled.
Apr 01 12:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:33:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3962 = 0.7924 BTC [-]
Apr 01 12:33:05 <thestringpuller>	sure
Apr 01 12:33:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.396 = 1.188 BTC [-]
Apr 01 12:33:07 <saulimus>	some won't buy if it doesn't come down to $2...
Apr 01 12:33:09 <Bugpowdurr>	the number of bitcoins demanded is irrelevant
Apr 01 12:33:13 <Lyspooner>	i demand that many bitcoins for .00001 USD
Apr 01 12:33:21 <Bugpowdurr>	the total $ demanded is
Apr 01 12:33:23 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowdurr: how so?
Apr 01 12:33:30 <thestringpuller>	oh total $ demanded
Apr 01 12:33:43 <Bugpowdurr>	just focus on the total $ demanded.  That represents actual funded bids on gox.
Apr 01 12:33:50 <benkay>	microhxo look into dwolla
Apr 01 12:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdurr wait.
Apr 01 12:33:53 <Bugpowdurr>	highest I have seen is $10.4MM
Apr 01 12:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	o nm
Apr 01 12:34:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000645 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:34:15 <microhxo>	Thanks, ill check em out
Apr 01 12:34:18 <thestringpuller>	do you still have any S.DICE?
Apr 01 12:34:22 <thestringpuller>	or did you empty out
Apr 01 12:34:25 <benkay>	microhxo it can be slow to get money in but people love it
Apr 01 12:34:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 01 12:34:40 <gribble>	62669.1151321
Apr 01 12:34:49 <microhxo>	How long from start to finish to buy a bitcoin?
Apr 01 12:34:53 <microhxo>	pending is fine but
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Apr 01 12:34:57 <microhxo>	as long as he can get in today
Apr 01 12:35:13 <thestringpuller>	I'll sell him some
Apr 01 12:35:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 81 @ 0.74 = 59.94 BTC [-]
Apr 01 12:35:23 <thestringpuller>	but I will only take moneypaks
Apr 01 12:35:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.74998 = 5.9998 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:35:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.74999 = 7.4999 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:35:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.749999 = 2.25 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:35:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 77 @ 0.75 = 57.75 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:35:39 <thestringpuller>	microhxo: is that doable?
Apr 01 12:35:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.75 = 7.5 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:35:57 <microhxo>	He just got 1 bitcoin on coinbase lol
Apr 01 12:35:57 <mircea_popescu>	microhxo coinbase takes about a month or some shit.
Apr 01 12:36:00 <microhxo>	so he is "in the game"
Apr 01 12:36:11 <thestringpuller>	okay so he doesn't need coin no more?
Apr 01 12:36:15 <benkay>	microhxo don't fuck with coinbase
Apr 01 12:36:32 <benkay>	they're not grownups.
Apr 01 12:36:33 <kakobrekla>	15:13.32 ( KRS1 ) wtf <kakobrekla> yes sell all btc asap < trolling the ltc king
Apr 01 12:36:39 <microhxo>	well, im already .5 btc into coin base so once I get that I can transfer to another service.
Apr 01 12:36:49 <benkay>	took 3 hours to get my friends coins out of there
Apr 01 12:36:50 <microhxo>	just seemed the most convenient
Apr 01 12:36:53 <benkay>	NOT pro.
Apr 01 12:36:54 <benkay>	yeah
Apr 01 12:36:59 <Bugpowdurr>	coinbase is n00bbase
Apr 01 12:37:00 <benkay>	the triangle is trust, speed, price
Apr 01 12:37:02 <benkay>	pick 2
Apr 01 12:37:06 <thestringpuller>	microhxo: do you need coin?
Apr 01 12:37:08 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: what were you saying localbitcoins should do?
Apr 01 12:37:18 <Bugpowdurr>	mtgox has all 3 if you are already verified
Apr 01 12:37:23 <mircea_popescu>	benkay not really. if you're on otc it's pretty much max trust insta speed best price.
Apr 01 12:37:42 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo they should hire a dozen strippers in the main towns at 100 an hour or whatever
Apr 01 12:37:44 <microhxo>	thestringpuller: Not right now. Im only testing bitcoins. Dont want to put a lot in yet.
Apr 01 12:37:48 <microhxo>	thanks though.
Apr 01 12:37:51 <mircea_popescu>	havwe them go to sell ? buy btc
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Apr 01 12:37:52 <microhxo>	mtgox i heard was slow?
Apr 01 12:38:06 <thestringpuller>	microhxo: I just don't want anyone who needs coin to have to miss out on trades because services are down
Apr 01 12:38:11 <Bugpowdurr>	only if you are new
Apr 01 12:38:18 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: i never see advertisements for less than 7% above mkt
Apr 01 12:38:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.76 = 7.6 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:38:32 <Bugpowdurr>	I sell for 3% over market on localbitcoins
Apr 01 12:38:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:38:40 <microhxo>	thestringpuller: yea i hear you.
Apr 01 12:38:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 29 @ 0.76 = 22.04 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:39:11 <Bugpowdurr>	3% over market yesterday, is 10% under market today
Apr 01 12:39:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.76 = 5.32 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:39:18 <TomServo>	Bugpowdurr: what's the interest level like?
Apr 01 12:39:28 <thestringpuller>	oh wow
Apr 01 12:39:41 <thestringpuller>	Bitcoin might start supporting a legit economy soon at these prices...
Apr 01 12:39:50 <Bugpowdurr>	high
Apr 01 12:40:10 <Bugpowdurr>	I think I get most of the business in my area
Apr 01 12:40:18 <Bugpowdurr>	have had 3 different buyers
Apr 01 12:40:21 <Bugpowdurr>	one is a regular
Apr 01 12:40:28 <Bugpowdurr>	I suspect he is dealing coins at school
Apr 01 12:40:55 <kakobrekla>	sometimes kids dealed drugs
Apr 01 12:40:58 <kakobrekla>	now they deal coins
Apr 01 12:41:00 <kakobrekla>	and get drugs of SR
Apr 01 12:41:03 <kakobrekla>	works.
Apr 01 12:41:08 <benkay>	better system.
Apr 01 12:41:21 <TomServo>	Bugpowdurr: do your ads reference your OTC info?
Apr 01 12:41:31 <Bugpowdurr>	yes
Apr 01 12:42:11 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowdurr: I suspect he is dealing coins at school << so he is dealing them for drugs?
Apr 01 12:42:34 <Bugpowdurr>	I don't think so, I think he is just trying to make a profit
Apr 01 12:42:42 <Bugpowdurr>	probably can sell for 20% over market
Apr 01 12:42:51 <Bugpowdurr>	plus the rising price
Apr 01 12:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, brcause of all the "protective" regulation
Apr 01 12:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	kids cant' get btc.
Apr 01 12:43:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.0006 = 2.61 BTC [-]
Apr 01 12:43:20 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: fo realz?
Apr 01 12:43:31 <thestringpuller>	that sounds like a good business right there, btc for children
Apr 01 12:43:35 <thestringpuller>	btc kids meals
Apr 01 12:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	well how ? they get registered with mtgox ?
Apr 01 12:43:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: Bitinstant
Apr 01 12:43:55 <smickles>	violates copa
Apr 01 12:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	a that's a thought.
Apr 01 12:44:03 <thestringpuller>	or Ziggap
Apr 01 12:44:08 <thestringpuller>	Or why not OTC
Apr 01 12:44:19 <thestringpuller>	danieldaniel bought coins from me by buying me hitman
Apr 01 12:44:29 <thestringpuller>	as smickles could attest to
Apr 01 12:44:29 <smickles>	'merican companies can't collect information on kids
Apr 01 12:44:51 <ThickAsThieves>	surprised this made it onto the Verge, looks like they're becoming btc fans... http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/31/4168542/listen-to-bitcoin-in-real-time
Apr 01 12:44:53 <smickles>	so they just don't do business with them, often times
Apr 01 12:44:56 <thestringpuller>	i would think kids would have an easier time with "no regulation" if they came into bitcoin wealth
Apr 01 12:45:03 <thestringpuller>	they don't have to legally pay taxes non?
Apr 01 12:45:11 <thestringpuller>	that is if they are enrolled
Apr 01 12:45:20 <smickles>	thestringpuller: they do have to pay taxes
Apr 01 12:45:28 <smickles>	via parents
Apr 01 12:45:32 <thestringpuller>	but you get it all refunded
Apr 01 12:45:35 <thestringpuller>	non?
Apr 01 12:45:46 <Bugpowdurr>	only if you don't make much
Apr 01 12:45:56 <Bugpowdurr>	same tax rates apply
Apr 01 12:46:08 <Bugpowdurr>	18 year olds usually don't have much gross income though
Apr 01 12:46:10 <thestringpuller>	Hmm. I guess kids may have it harder after all...
Apr 01 12:46:22 <smickles>	if your under age kids make money, it's your income
Apr 01 12:46:34 <mircea_popescu>	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGx8EptCYAAgj5K.jpg:large
Apr 01 12:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	pic related.
Apr 01 12:46:44 <Bugpowdurr>	That's not how it worked for me when I was 17
Apr 01 12:47:20 <smickles>	Bugpowdurr: i learned personal income tax in 2009, so it may have been different
Apr 01 12:48:18 <Bugpowdurr>	iirc if you are claimed as a dependent, you cannot take your personal exemption, but your income is still taxed as your own income.  But there may be multiple ways to skin that cat.
Apr 01 12:48:28 <jborkl>	17 you are a adult in the US, pretty sure
Apr 01 12:48:43 <Bugpowdurr>	ah no
Apr 01 12:48:45 <Bugpowdurr>	18
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Apr 01 12:49:04 <jborkl>	well, taxes not 100% sure- you can be tried as a adult at 17
Apr 01 12:49:21 <Bugpowdurr>	default is tried as a juviy at 18
Apr 01 12:49:37 <Bugpowdurr>	if you did something very bad they can roll you up to adult for criminal prosecution
Apr 01 12:50:22 <Bugpowdurr>	I don't think we are gonna see $110 today.
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Apr 01 12:54:43 <smickles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oozQe2Bk2cA
Apr 01 12:57:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0038 = 3.8 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:57:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0038 = 3.8 BTC [+]
Apr 01 12:57:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00371 = 11.13 BTC [-]
Apr 01 13:03:25 <mod6>	hmm only 500 nodes connected today?
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Apr 01 13:06:35 <Garr255>	!help
Apr 01 13:06:36 <assbot>	List of commands:
Apr 01 13:06:37 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
Apr 01 13:06:38 <assbot>	!last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
Apr 01 13:06:39 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Apr 01 13:06:40 <assbot>	!rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
Apr 01 13:06:41 <assbot>	!exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
Apr 01 13:06:45 <Garr255>	!ticker btct cognitive
Apr 01 13:06:47 <assbot>	[BTCT:COGNITIVE] 1D: 0.157 / 0.23616 / 0.2899 (59 shares, 13.9 BTC),  7D: 0.108 / 0.14794 / 0.2899 (414 shares, 61.2 BTC), 30D: 0.1012 / 0.17401 / 0.3 (930 shares, 161.8 BTC)
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Apr 01 13:08:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 83 @ 0.000611 = 0.0507 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 13:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 kinda concerning, yes.
Apr 01 13:13:14 <Bugpowdurr>	seems like too round a number
Apr 01 13:13:56 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 13:14:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.21741, Best ask: 102.54042, Bid-ask spread: 0.32301, Last trade: 102.21740, 24 hour volume: 79604.66694827, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 98.01342
Apr 01 13:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	at the rate nodes have been decreasing (60k two years ago, 30k a year ago, 10k recently, <1k by now)
Apr 01 13:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	it seems this is rapidly becoming bitcoin's chief point of failure.
Apr 01 13:14:30 <kakobrekla>	blockchain to big
Apr 01 13:14:32 <kakobrekla>	too
Apr 01 13:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	yes but as we get into the hundreds we're markedly less decentralised than visa.
Apr 01 13:15:01 <kakobrekla>	i run ~5 full nodes myself
Apr 01 13:15:09 <jborkl>	4 here
Apr 01 13:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoind ?
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Apr 01 13:15:14 <kakobrekla>	yes
Apr 01 13:15:17 <jborkl>	yes
Apr 01 13:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	what vers ?
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Apr 01 13:15:21 <jborkl>	.81
Apr 01 13:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	(if you don't mund my curioisuty(
Apr 01 13:15:27 <kakobrekla>	0.7 - 0.8
Apr 01 13:15:35 <jborkl>	.81 is very fast compared
Apr 01 13:15:41 <jborkl>	to .7x
Apr 01 13:15:46 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Apr 01 13:15:57 <jborkl>	from what I understand it will use all cores
Apr 01 13:16:00 <kakobrekla>	ya but avg folks need a week to sync
Apr 01 13:16:05 <kakobrekla>	or something
Apr 01 13:16:07 <jborkl>	true
Apr 01 13:16:14 <kakobrekla>	which is death
Apr 01 13:16:15 <mircea_popescu>	ridiculous. even on .81 ?!
Apr 01 13:16:23 <jborkl>	well, .81  it goes much faster
Apr 01 13:16:30 <kakobrekla>	yea esp if not running 24/7
Apr 01 13:16:44 <jborkl>	I keep multiple copies, so I don't know anymore
Apr 01 13:16:56 <jborkl>	but last time it took 2 dayd
Apr 01 13:17:01 <kakobrekla>	i know people have been using electrun and such
Apr 01 13:17:01 <mircea_popescu>	so 2% of active nodes is you two.
Apr 01 13:17:05 <mircea_popescu>	scary shit.
Apr 01 13:17:08 <jborkl>	lol, I guess so
Apr 01 13:17:10 <kakobrekla>	that uses one server side bitcoind
Apr 01 13:17:23 <kakobrekla>	and ppl connect to that
Apr 01 13:17:37 <jborkl>	I have about 200 connections on those 4
Apr 01 13:18:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16384 @ 0.00060656 = 9.9379 BTC [+]
Apr 01 13:18:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2616 @ 0.00060809 = 1.5908 BTC [+]
Apr 01 13:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	fucking hell.
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Apr 01 13:18:40 <mircea_popescu>	so my very expensive 15800 hdd just went
Apr 01 13:18:42 <mircea_popescu>	retjhweriughieh
Apr 01 13:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	and is now dead ;/
Apr 01 13:18:56 <kakobrekla>	uh?
Apr 01 13:18:56 <smickles>	:o
Apr 01 13:18:57 <mircea_popescu>	WHO HERE DID IT
Apr 01 13:19:12 <kakobrekla>	you shouldnt have downloaded my cupcakes
Apr 01 13:19:14 <Bugpowdurr>	I just don't believe that there are only 500 nodes
Apr 01 13:19:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [+]
Apr 01 13:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	;/
Apr 01 13:20:08 <jborkl>	well, people that did not upgrade to .81 or change the locks - I am guessing will no longer show up on nodes
Apr 01 13:20:08 <smickles>	that's just blockchain. they might now limit to 500
Apr 01 13:20:14 <Bugpowdurr>	yeah
Apr 01 13:20:20 <Bugpowdurr>	that's what I bet is going on
Apr 01 13:20:45 <mircea_popescu>	smickles now that's a theory.
Apr 01 13:20:54 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl there'd be no way to knopw as a peer
Apr 01 13:21:02 <kakobrekla>	ouch; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.120;topicseen
Apr 01 13:21:09 <kakobrekla>	another round.
Apr 01 13:22:26 <kakobrekla>	this stupid people and money parting is taking too long!
Apr 01 13:22:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00398999 = 3.3915 BTC [+]
Apr 01 13:22:51 <jurov>	who reports 500 nodes? blockchain.info?
Apr 01 13:23:12 <smickles>	yup
Apr 01 13:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla werd brotyher.
Apr 01 13:23:20 <jborkl>	497, but I know a few wekks ago it was 1900
Apr 01 13:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	two months ago it was like 8-9000
Apr 01 13:23:54 <benkay>	"Once again, I get scammed."
Apr 01 13:23:58 <jurov>	cuz i have 90 connections now and none of them is blockchain.info (it sees my txs as arriving from around the world)
Apr 01 13:24:15 <jurov>	so think it's wildly inaccurate
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Apr 01 13:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	any of you folks running multiple nodes willing to do a node mapping project ?
Apr 01 13:24:56 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1700671#msg1700671 << lol
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Apr 01 13:25:36 <podizzle>	hey
Apr 01 13:25:41 <mircea_popescu>	hello
Apr 01 13:25:50 <jborkl>	Sure
Apr 01 13:26:01 <mod6>	yeah, i guess blockchain.info sometimes loses its wallet connections and takes a bit to reconnect to other nodes.
Apr 01 13:26:09 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl let me know!
Apr 01 13:26:12 <podizzle>	how long does it take for bets to show max
Apr 01 13:26:14 <mod6>	just was curious. thx :)
Apr 01 13:26:19 <therusytrombone>	how was the outcome of the avalon bet yes
Apr 01 13:26:24 <podizzle>	i know btc can be slow ass hell sometimes
Apr 01 13:26:31 <therusytrombone>	they did not deliver half of their pre-orders lol
Apr 01 13:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	podizzle what bets, what max ?
Apr 01 13:26:36 <therusytrombone>	such bullshit lmao
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Apr 01 13:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	therusytrombone how you judge ?
Apr 01 13:27:05 <jborkl>	ok, I am going to go to lunch them I will let you know, shouldnt take too long
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Apr 01 13:27:14 <therusytrombone>	at the time that statement was made, there were two batches for pre-order
Apr 01 13:27:19 <podizzle>	16yhNwTB4wxSjbJu8Ev3TantqYyn6AEUcJ
Apr 01 13:27:26 <therusytrombone>	so you would have to guess or assume that the statement meant only batch one?
Apr 01 13:27:35 <therusytrombone>	if you go by the timing, batch 1 and 2 were already in
Apr 01 13:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. it's been widely discussed here / in the comments there too
Apr 01 13:27:46 <therusytrombone>	it doesnt make sense
Apr 01 13:27:52 <therusytrombone>	are you supposed to bet on how the statement is written
Apr 01 13:27:59 <therusytrombone>	or how it was supposed to be interpreted?
Apr 01 13:28:00 <mircea_popescu>	you are, yes.
Apr 01 13:28:20 <therusytrombone>	so by how it was written, and the date it was created, the outcome should be No
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Apr 01 13:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	any written text has the problem of reading. this is why there exist courts irl.
Apr 01 13:28:33 <podizzle>	i think bitbet has lots of potential but 30btc to buy shares damn
Apr 01 13:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	a reading including batch two is nonsensical as batch two wasn't even slated for delivery till apr 5
Apr 01 13:28:44 <therusytrombone>	i'm starting to think the site is kinda rigged
Apr 01 13:28:49 <smickles>	podizzle: find a broker
Apr 01 13:28:57 <podizzle>	this bfl talk haunts me wherever i go
Apr 01 13:28:58 <mircea_popescu>	podizzle you can use ppl like coinbr
Apr 01 13:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	or the passthroughs
Apr 01 13:29:03 <therusytrombone>	it doesnt matter, it was written that they will deliver 1/2 of their pre-orders
Apr 01 13:29:06 <therusytrombone>	nothing about batches
Apr 01 13:29:07 <podizzle>	i see thanks for the info
Apr 01 13:29:11 <therusytrombone>	and on that date, they had two batches
Apr 01 13:29:19 <therusytrombone>	so by what you are saying, it should have been a bad bed
Apr 01 13:29:25 <therusytrombone>	who owns that site, anyway?
Apr 01 13:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	well, apparently your reading of the text doesn't match the admin's and the majority of bettor's/commenter's etc reading thereof.
Apr 01 13:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	it happens.
Apr 01 13:29:43 <therusytrombone>	what a knee-jerk reaction to call that a  Yes
Apr 01 13:29:47 <therusytrombone>	scam'd
Apr 01 13:30:13 <therusytrombone>	read the statement. read the date. how can you infer any other way?
Apr 01 13:30:16 <smickles>	therusytrombone: can you link me :)
Apr 01 13:30:24 <therusytrombone>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Apr 01 13:30:26 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
Apr 01 13:30:44 <therusytrombone>	pre-orders mean pre-orders, there is no mention of batches
Apr 01 13:30:47 <mircea_popescu>	well, i read it the following way : the bet can't be about some corp delivering before april 1st items it promised to deliver starting april 5th
Apr 01 13:30:58 <therusytrombone>	that's inferring past what's written
Apr 01 13:31:00 <therusytrombone>	i understand that point
Apr 01 13:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	no text carries its meaning inside.
Apr 01 13:31:10 <therusytrombone>	but then you are betting on what the creator meant but not what is written
Apr 01 13:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	all text is interpreted.
Apr 01 13:31:13 <therusytrombone>	and that's a bad bet by the rules
Apr 01 13:31:13 <podizzle>	is this a bitbet site ?
Apr 01 13:31:16 <podizzle>	channel
Apr 01 13:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	podizzle nope.
Apr 01 13:31:25 <podizzle>	wtf
Apr 01 13:31:27 <podizzle>	lol
Apr 01 13:31:47 <smickles>	podizzle: we do go off topic from time to time
Apr 01 13:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	therusytrombone if you take a strong nominalist view NOTHING is ever definitively provable
Apr 01 13:32:08 <smickles>	podizzle: also, if you don't like naked people, be weary of clicking on a link from mircea_popescu
Apr 01 13:32:10 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 01 13:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	and thus no bets are acceptable.
Apr 01 13:32:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.51002, Best ask: 102.99990, Bid-ask spread: 0.48988, Last trade: 102.51000, 24 hour volume: 80196.49123987, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 98.06018
Apr 01 13:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136483017480.jpg <point in case.
Apr 01 13:32:44 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: radical skepticism ftw !
Apr 01 13:32:59 <therusytrombone>	it says half of preorders
Apr 01 13:33:05 <therusytrombone>	they had two batches of preorders in at that time
Apr 01 13:33:06 <therusytrombone>	refute that.
Apr 01 13:33:10 <mircea_popescu>	well ok, perfectly valid phylosophically but how the fuck will you run a site with it,.
Apr 01 13:33:14 <jborkl>	network hash rate about a month ago was 24th now, 64th - asicminer has only claimed maybe 10 th- the rest has to be (in a logical conclusion) = Avalon
Apr 01 13:33:27 <therusytrombone>	they did not deliver 450 devices
Apr 01 13:33:47 <podizzle>	i made my withdrawal to bitbet at 12:48pm
Apr 01 13:33:49 <therusytrombone>	it's ok it's just good to know a site is a scam and not to use it
Apr 01 13:33:53 <podizzle>	still nothing am i being impatient
Apr 01 13:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	therusytrombone if you bet on the losing side i imagine it'd have been a lot more beneficial to argue this afore betting.
Apr 01 13:34:06 <therusytrombone>	people write crazy vague statements and expect people to infer what they meant
Apr 01 13:34:07 <smickles>	jborkl: no, the rest is AMD, it's how they are still in business
Apr 01 13:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	podizzle if you included no fee a tx can take 2 days.
Apr 01 13:34:10 <therusytrombone>	like, really?
Apr 01 13:34:24 <jborkl>	LOL, smickles good one
Apr 01 13:34:25 <podizzle>	mircea_popescu how much is the fee
Apr 01 13:34:36 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Apr 01 13:34:39 <mpexbot>	smickles: 839
Apr 01 13:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	0.0005 works for most people. mpex includes 0.001 on al txs
Apr 01 13:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	a few cents is a nice gesture to support the entire network.
Apr 01 13:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.4199 = 2.9393 BTC [+]
Apr 01 13:35:11 <therusytrombone>	lol how could you ever read that statement and not think it means all of the preorders they have in at the time
Apr 01 13:35:11 <podizzle>	oh damn but i will be put in at the weight it was when i sent or when i clicked
Apr 01 13:35:13 <therusytrombone>	SCAM
Apr 01 13:35:14 <therusytrombone>	lmao
Apr 01 13:35:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8294 @ 0.0006 = 4.9764 BTC [-]
Apr 01 13:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	podizzle when the bet makes it .
Apr 01 13:35:34 <podizzle>	ok
Apr 01 13:35:51 <podizzle>	thats a little scary but ok
Apr 01 13:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	therusytrombone im sure avalon said something on the forum about a future batch to be delivered in 2014
Apr 01 13:36:01 <mircea_popescu>	why not extend to anything they ever mentioned ffs.
Apr 01 13:36:09 <therusytrombone>	at the time the statement was created, they had two preorder batches in
Apr 01 13:36:13 <therusytrombone>	you keep dancing around my fact
Apr 01 13:36:15 <therusytrombone>	facts
Apr 01 13:36:20 <mircea_popescu>	except one wasn't slated for delivery by that date
Apr 01 13:36:21 <therusytrombone>	with crazy statements
Apr 01 13:36:29 <therusytrombone>	the creator of the statement
Apr 01 13:36:33 <therusytrombone>	in the comments
Apr 01 13:36:36 <therusytrombone>	even says that he put in batch 1
Apr 01 13:36:38 <mircea_popescu>	listen. if you pick some facts you can support any pov/claim any other is insane/vague/we
Apr 01 13:36:38 <therusytrombone>	and it was left out
Apr 01 13:36:39 <therusytrombone>	so....?
Apr 01 13:36:43 <therusytrombone>	intentionally vague
Apr 01 13:36:44 <therusytrombone>	site is a scam
Apr 01 13:36:45 <podizzle>	mircea_popescu so if the bet isnt made by resolved then it will be a refund?
Apr 01 13:36:53 <podizzle>	or if the bet isnt made by closed
Apr 01 13:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	if the bet doesn't make it before bet is closed then it's a donation.
Apr 01 13:37:02 <therusytrombone>	don't use bitbets, it's a scam
Apr 01 13:37:08 <therusytrombone>	lock'd
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Apr 01 13:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/faq/#15
Apr 01 13:37:39 <mircea_popescu>	therusytrombone it just works a certain way.
Apr 01 13:37:39 <therusytrombone>	the fact that the creator of the statement even admitted that part of it got left out
Apr 01 13:37:44 <therusytrombone>	should have been a bad bet at minimum
Apr 01 13:37:46 <therusytrombone>	joke site
Apr 01 13:37:46 <mod6>	<3 bitbet
Apr 01 13:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	something's not a scam because it works otherwise than you think it should.
Apr 01 13:38:12 <therusytrombone>	if you read the statement
Apr 01 13:38:17 <therusytrombone>	and look at the date it was created
Apr 01 13:38:19 <mod6>	won some off the basketball games this weekend!
Apr 01 13:38:26 <therusytrombone>	there are two preorder batcxhes
Apr 01 13:38:26 <therusytrombone>	you have not refuted that
Apr 01 13:38:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 13:38:40 <podizzle>	let me ask again
Apr 01 13:39:37 <podizzle>	what about a bet where i sent money during open betting but is not placed before betting is closed. donation or refund
Apr 01 13:39:45 <mircea_popescu>	therusytrombone one of the batches you count was not supposed to start delivery until after the bet closes.
Apr 01 13:39:47 <jborkl>	i think smickles is right and blockchain info is reporting 500 max
Apr 01 13:39:52 <therusytrombone>	but it didn't say that
Apr 01 13:39:55 <therusytrombone>	it said all preoders
Apr 01 13:39:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is your refutation. now, whether you take it in or ingore it is up to you, but it stands.
Apr 01 13:39:58 <therusytrombone>	there were two batches for preorder
Apr 01 13:40:00 <therusytrombone>	PLEASE refute that
Apr 01 13:40:01 <therusytrombone>	you havent
Apr 01 13:40:04 <therusytrombone>	because you are a joke
Apr 01 13:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	mkay.
Apr 01 13:40:06 <therusytrombone>	just like bitbet
Apr 01 13:40:06 <therusytrombone>	lmao
Apr 01 13:40:08 <podizzle>	lol
Apr 01 13:40:17 <mircea_popescu>	podizzle donation.
Apr 01 13:40:19 <therusytrombone>	it stands in your tiny mind
Apr 01 13:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5051 @ 0.00060809 = 3.0715 BTC [+]
Apr 01 13:40:27 <jborkl>	still looking , but I am seeing a bunch not on the blockchain list
Apr 01 13:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4367 @ 0.00060871 = 2.6582 BTC [+]
Apr 01 13:40:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00061276 = 1.777 BTC [+]
Apr 01 13:40:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2932 @ 0.00061415 = 1.8007 BTC [+]
Apr 01 13:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	and this seems the perfect time to announce the shocker of march results of bitbet. here goes :
Apr 01 13:40:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-march-2013-statement/
Apr 01 13:40:46 <therusytrombone>	1) create an intentionally vague statement
Apr 01 13:40:52 <therusytrombone>	2) wait for heavy betting action on one side
Apr 01 13:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	therusytrombone if a statement doesn't please you, why bet ?!
Apr 01 13:41:01 <therusytrombone>	3) have your judge/moderator friend tell you how he'll rule
Apr 01 13:41:08 <therusytrombone>	4) bet on that side
Apr 01 13:41:09 <therusytrombone>	5) profit
Apr 01 13:41:12 <therusytrombone>	ez game
Apr 01 13:41:15 <therusytrombone>	bitbet confirmed scam
Apr 01 13:41:17 <jborkl>	nice profits, very good for the second month?
Apr 01 13:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl 3rd month
Apr 01 13:41:28 <kakobrekla>	3rd
Apr 01 13:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	unless i'm crazy first was jan ? a ok
Apr 01 13:41:34 <jborkl>	oh ok, well still very nice
Apr 01 13:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	but yea it went up a lot.
Apr 01 13:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, one measure we're taking is having a special mod tag on the comments so that mod can clarify how they'll judge statements if need be.
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Apr 01 13:43:22 <error4733>	to all paranoid : http://www.joshianlindsay.com/index.php?id=126
Apr 01 13:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	and re the late bets : it is in general not nice to include txs with no fees. it is callous, miners work at this, buitcoin needs the fees to survive.
Apr 01 13:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	in the case of bitbet it is outright dangerous, so not worth it.
Apr 01 13:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	a small fee to the tune of a few cents ensures next-block inclusion for pretty much all txs
Apr 01 13:44:31 <podizzle>	mircea ok
Apr 01 13:44:38 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: nice results on s.bbet for march!
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Apr 01 13:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	now, i understand this is not necessarily expected bejhaviour / can gotcha. i'm sorry for it but there's no practical way out.
Apr 01 13:45:49 <podizzle>	my bet went through haha yeaaaaaaaaaah!
Apr 01 13:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.44969999 = 1.3491 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 13:48:12 <podizzle>	i dont understand how would i make a donation if any transfer is counted as a bet should i make it 1.005 and its assumed the .005 is a tip?
Apr 01 13:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	podizzle if you use the stock client there's a menu to fix tx fee.
Apr 01 13:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	settings or options or something
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Apr 01 13:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 http://www.joshianlindsay.com/images/205.jpg ahaha
Apr 01 13:50:46 <DeaDTerra>	Starcraft 2 bitcoin tourmanent, Join us over at sc2btc.com/play! Free to play sit and go tournament :D
Apr 01 13:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	haha now that's an idea
Apr 01 13:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1021 @ 0.00380001 = 3.8798 BTC [-]
Apr 01 13:53:42 <smickles>	now this is handy
Apr 01 13:53:46 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Apr 01 13:53:48 <mpexbot>	smickles: 663 unconfirmed transactions. Oldest dated: 2013-03-30 16:07:38
Apr 01 13:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	nice
Apr 01 13:54:13 <mircea_popescu>	mpexbot is becoming like a maven
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Apr 01 13:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	$help
Apr 01 13:54:26 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
Apr 01 13:54:32 <smickles>	$list
Apr 01 13:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	listen you ttoally gotta populate that.
Apr 01 13:54:33 <mpexbot>	smickles: Admin, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, Services, SupyMPEx, and User
Apr 01 13:54:36 <mircea_popescu>	a nm!
Apr 01 13:54:55 <smickles>	and I do need to put in a couple docstrings
Apr 01 13:54:58 <mircea_popescu>	now if only i can remember list
Apr 01 13:55:04 <smickles>	$list SupyMPEx
Apr 01 13:55:04 <mpexbot>	smickles: avg, depth, email, moo, mpexlag, post, proxies, unconfirmed, and vwap
Apr 01 13:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Apr 01 13:55:27 <mircea_popescu>	can you redirect $help to $list supympex ?
Apr 01 13:55:42 <mircea_popescu>	$email
Apr 01 13:55:43 <smickles>	nanotube: ^ help :)
Apr 01 13:55:43 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: No new messages received.
Apr 01 13:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	and also add the leading $ and say somethinc like "Available commands : "
Apr 01 13:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap ^oix
Apr 01 13:56:41 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 100.30864847 high: 132.25174812 low: 86.04499804 volume: 9075 btc: 4482.82710187 30 day: no data
Apr 01 13:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	whoa nelly.
Apr 01 13:57:16 <smickles>	132, not bad
Apr 01 13:57:49 <smickles>	$commands
Apr 01 13:57:54 <smickles>	hmm
Apr 01 13:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	$buttsex
Apr 01 13:58:20 <smickles>	ah, mircea_popescu do you remember that assbot pic?
Apr 01 13:58:25 <mircea_popescu>	notrly ?
Apr 01 13:58:41 <smickles>	well, nvm.
Apr 01 13:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6690 @ 0.0006 = 4.014 BTC [-]
Apr 01 13:59:20 <smickles>	6!??!
Apr 01 14:00:11 <mircea_popescu>	end of world.
Apr 01 14:00:52 <smickles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU3g7XFCZFw
Apr 01 14:00:54 <mod6>	it's been landing on .0006 a few times in the last number of days
Apr 01 14:01:11 <mod6>	ups and downs
Apr 01 14:01:13 <mod6>	no worries
Apr 01 14:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	as btc went from 20 to 100 s.dice lost like what, 50-60% ?
Apr 01 14:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	s.mpoe lost about 20% i think
Apr 01 14:02:13 <podizzle>	satoshi dice lost why would it lose
Apr 01 14:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	oddly enough this could be said to make sone sense
Apr 01 14:02:29 <mircea_popescu>	podizzle well would you prefer "shed" ?
Apr 01 14:02:46 <podizzle>	no i mean the underlying reasons why
Apr 01 14:02:57 <smickles>	i prefer "two sheds"
Apr 01 14:02:59 <smickles>	;D
Apr 01 14:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	well there's this theory that people wil lbet less btc
Apr 01 14:03:11 <podizzle>	because its too valued
Apr 01 14:03:17 <podizzle>	even a satoshi?
Apr 01 14:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	more generally, in fiat terms corp went from 15 to 50mn ?
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Apr 01 14:10:34 <mod6>	yeah! and I like how after the march MPOE beatdown the statements are there in full glory - ugly or not.
Apr 01 14:11:57 <mod6>	those were some HUGE numbers, but the reality of those statements to me adds some trust there.  MPEx sailed through some massive attacks this past month too.
Apr 01 14:12:14 <mod6>	Sail strong MPEx!
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Apr 01 14:12:29 <_aeon>	squirt
Apr 01 14:12:40 <smickles>	mod6: mpex is a scam and mircea_popescu is a greasy fraud
Apr 01 14:12:45 <mod6>	:P
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Apr 01 14:12:48 <_aeon>	probably smickles
Apr 01 14:13:22 <ThickAsThieves>	you forgot to call him a gypsy
Apr 01 14:13:35 <_aeon>	judges in romania are like $500
Apr 01 14:14:03 <mircea_popescu>	i say this, from the bottom of my heart :
Apr 01 14:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	buttseks.
Apr 01 14:14:10 <mod6>	:>
Apr 01 14:14:12 <guruvan>	damn smickles I knew it. Now where am I gonna find a chum to sell my account to?
Apr 01 14:14:25 <smickles>	he's probably having buttsex right now, that pervert
Apr 01 14:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	no im not. too much effort
Apr 01 14:14:39 <_aeon>	i bet his finger is at least in a butt
Apr 01 14:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	i got a fever ;/
Apr 01 14:14:46 <mod6>	:(
Apr 01 14:14:48 <guruvan>	I'm sure of it - I heard that online somewhere
Apr 01 14:14:52 <smickles>	aw, get well soon mp
Apr 01 14:14:58 <mircea_popescu>	and the only prescription
Apr 01 14:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	the only cure
Apr 01 14:15:02 <guruvan>	hot from all that buttseks
Apr 01 14:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	is more COWBELL
Apr 01 14:15:05 <_aeon>	is whiskey
Apr 01 14:15:10 <mod6>	always moar cowbell
Apr 01 14:15:18 <smickles>	lol
Apr 01 14:15:27 <mod6>	m00
Apr 01 14:15:31 <_aeon>	bourbon makes fever go away
Apr 01 14:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, it's breaking already. i am blessed with this bizzare trait whereby a cold stays with me for 6 hours if its really bad
Apr 01 14:15:33 <_aeon>	known.
Apr 01 14:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	who's _aeon anyway
Apr 01 14:16:06 <_aeon>	yo mamma
Apr 01 14:16:08 <smickles>	dunno, they sound cool tho
Apr 01 14:16:36 <mircea_popescu>	my mamma cvan't type that fast,
Apr 01 14:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	she works for the govt.
Apr 01 14:16:53 <_aeon>	dem gubments
Apr 01 14:17:16 <_aeon>	i'm noob
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Apr 01 14:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	no you're not, what noob has cloaks.
Apr 01 14:17:48 <_aeon>	paranoidmuch
Apr 01 14:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	just curious dood.
Apr 01 14:18:01 <_aeon>	muahahaha
Apr 01 14:18:05 <smickles>	lol, _aeon, your 14:12 -!- _aeon [~FUCKSUPA@unaffiliated/aeon/x-3095533] , funny
Apr 01 14:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	o its supa ?!
Apr 01 14:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	btw, anyone saw herodes' butthurt in forum over being neg'd ?
Apr 01 14:18:31 <_aeon>	that would be the farthest from the truth
Apr 01 14:18:36 <_aeon>	but let's run with it
Apr 01 14:18:57 <_aeon>	i'm wuzzywubing all over
Apr 01 14:19:24 <_aeon>	i like to read butthurt
Apr 01 14:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	on gibson. who the fuck connects on gibson
Apr 01 14:20:53 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: i was sort of pissed supa ruined my perfect rating :/
Apr 01 14:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	what's that like papua-new guiney
Apr 01 14:21:01 <pgp>	who runs bitcoinity?
Apr 01 14:21:01 <mod6>	*shrug*
Apr 01 14:21:09 <mircea_popescu>	pgp a hungarian dood.
Apr 01 14:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	comboy
Apr 01 14:21:25 <_aeon>	dude i'm being stalked
Apr 01 14:21:29 <pgp>	the joker background is fun 'n all, but sure make looking at the charts hard on the eyes...
Apr 01 14:21:30 <_aeon>	stop you tickle
Apr 01 14:21:30 <mod6>	i've never even talked to the guy... so that was kinda disappointing
Apr 01 14:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 i think he just spammed gribble ratings
Apr 01 14:22:10 <mod6>	yeah, apparently he's trying to make some sort of point
Apr 01 14:22:26 <mircea_popescu>	ya. aka trolling.
Apr 01 14:22:44 <mod6>	*nod*
Apr 01 14:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	so anybody been using the .8.1 exploded ruin of a codebase packaging at all ?
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Apr 01 14:23:01 <smickles>	http://youtu.be/zorZohh06w0?t=3m22s < lol
Apr 01 14:23:26 <_aeon>	;;rated Supa
Apr 01 14:23:26 <gribble>	You rated user Supa on Thu Mar 28 11:20:54 2013, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: I AM RICK JAMES MOTHERFUCKER.
Apr 01 14:23:33 <mod6>	i've got .7, but im still like 70 days behind.  need to fire it up and let it catch up but it chokes my hd
Apr 01 14:23:34 <_aeon>	;;unauth
Apr 01 14:23:35 <gribble>	Your GPG session has been terminated.
Apr 01 14:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	$grep "rick james" /xchatlogs/*
Apr 01 14:24:28 <_aeon>	goog luck
Apr 01 14:24:30 <tk993>	!e
Apr 01 14:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	1835
Apr 01 14:24:45 *	_aeon mostly covered the tracks
Apr 01 14:24:47 <pgp>	a lot of crying going on over .8.1 on bitcoin-dev
Apr 01 14:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	ʎɐp ƃuıɹʇs ɯopuɐɹ ʎddɐɥ
Apr 01 14:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	pgp ya well the old pos doesn't work (as detailed in http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/ )
Apr 01 14:25:39 <pgp>	looks almost greek ...  almoost - lol
Apr 01 14:25:41 <mircea_popescu>	and the new pos i don't trust
Apr 01 14:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	fucking locked ;/
Apr 01 14:26:09 <pgp>	ugh
Apr 01 14:27:16 <pgp>	here's one for BBET - bet on date that dev team releases 1.0
Apr 01 14:27:33 <pgp>	Dec 31, 2018 is probably even money
Apr 01 14:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 01 14:28:08 <smickles>	time b/t 1.0 and 1.0.0.1? 1 day
Apr 01 14:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	well i'm the eternal optimist : they stfu with the "Developing" which they can't do because they can't code
Apr 01 14:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	start working testnet which is more adeuqate to their abilities
Apr 01 14:28:50 <mircea_popescu>	and then finally when 1.0 is released that's after a spec has been made
Apr 01 14:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	and so 1.0.0.1 being 1 day later doesn't quite have the cataclysmic implications.
Apr 01 14:30:49 <pgp>	like anything in life, it'll will require competent resources AND competent management...
Apr 01 14:31:14 <pgp>	a dash of vision / brilliance never hurts, either...
Apr 01 14:31:49 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 01 14:31:52 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 97.68
Apr 01 14:32:17 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 14:32:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.57701, Best ask: 102.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.32298, Last trade: 102.57701, 24 hour volume: 77591.58336552, 24 hour low: 91.75000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 98.56399
Apr 01 14:33:21 <pgp>	it's great that miners get paid, but did satoshi ever think about getting the developers/stewards paid?
Apr 01 14:33:33 <pgp>	is that what the bitcoin foundation is for?
Apr 01 14:33:37 <_aeon>	aethero comes online
Apr 01 14:33:41 *	_aeon trolls harder
Apr 01 14:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	pgp i don't think the idea ever was for coders to be paid
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Apr 01 14:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not sayingthis is a good idea necessarily, but
Apr 01 14:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	if it is decentralised then the paying would be whoever hires them
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Apr 01 14:35:15 <jurov>	they should move to devcoin
Apr 01 14:35:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.2 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 01 14:35:41 <pgp>	bitcoin will need adjustments down the road - how can we ensure that the best and brightest are attracted to the endeavor?
Apr 01 14:35:42 <_aeon>	derpfiend eh
Apr 01 14:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, if i query my crystal 8 ball what i see is each miner conglomerate having its own devteam.
Apr 01 14:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	the current troop is really sinking their future by not doing spec work now, while they still can
Apr 01 14:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	it WILL be done, but by miner negotiation, and they will be simply ignored.
Apr 01 14:36:37 <pgp>	i believe you are right...
Apr 01 14:36:44 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. the problem is they're cheeky kids
Apr 01 14:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	and won't mostly listen.
Apr 01 14:36:57 <pgp>	golden rule:  he with the gold makes the rules...
Apr 01 14:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	cause you know, i'm evil and impolite and therefore the fact that i regularly see the future is moot.
Apr 01 14:37:36 <pgp>	sucks being a sith lord...
Apr 01 14:37:56 <_aeon>	use latinum bars
Apr 01 14:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	notrly. i get the butts.
Apr 01 14:38:10 <pgp>	lol
Apr 01 14:39:05 <pgp>	seriously, though - sometimes the conversation on bitcoin-dev seems like it's coming from Deep Space 9...
Apr 01 14:39:52 <mircea_popescu>	i can't go there. i get summaries (ocasionally) and even tho made by competent people they still piss me off.
Apr 01 14:40:51 <benkay>	can i subscribe to those summaries?
Apr 01 14:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	haha that might be an idea
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Apr 01 14:41:23 <pgp>	in any case, you're right about the mining oligarcy taking up the dev mantle eventually
Apr 01 14:42:31 <mircea_popescu>	i think so.
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Apr 01 14:42:34 <pgp>	seems like the natural outcome...
Apr 01 14:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	possibly some businesses might run their own clients.
Apr 01 14:42:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 80 @ 0.2 = 16 BTC [+]
Apr 01 14:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice might make one, like the s.dice desktop client.
Apr 01 14:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	probably valuable for things like slotmachines.
Apr 01 14:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	or bitpay if they had any sense (and resources, and etc)
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Apr 01 14:44:48 <pgp>	certainly room out there for "subchains" it seem to me...
Apr 01 14:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	that's a diff story.
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Apr 01 14:45:29 <benkay>	different topic: has anyone out there gotten kakobrekla's socket working?
Apr 01 14:45:39 <benkay>	and would be willing to give me some assist on thing?
Apr 01 14:45:44 <kakobrekla>	sure
Apr 01 14:45:48 <benkay>	o hai
Apr 01 14:45:51 <kakobrekla>	hi
Apr 01 14:46:50 <dub>	;;ticker
Apr 01 14:46:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 103.00010, Best ask: 103.15689, Bid-ask spread: 0.15679, Last trade: 103.00010, 24 hour volume: 77774.07869393, 24 hour low: 92.05000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 98.58243
Apr 01 14:47:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.76 = 9.88 BTC [+]
Apr 01 14:47:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.76 = 2.28 BTC [+]
Apr 01 14:47:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1622 BTC [-]
Apr 01 14:47:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16213 BTC [-]
Apr 01 14:47:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16212 BTC [-]
Apr 01 14:47:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.162 = 0.648 BTC [-]
Apr 01 14:49:03 <Derpfiend>	indeed aeon
Apr 01 14:49:14 <_aeon>	indeed
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Apr 01 14:50:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.42 = 1.68 BTC [-]
Apr 01 14:51:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.36 = 1.08 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 14:52:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 14:57:25 <_aeon>	http://cloudsigma.com/en/about-us/press-releases/233
Apr 01 14:57:47 <_aeon>	today announced that that its customers will now be able to benefit from fax access to their cloud servers. Complementing the existing SSH and VNC access, ‘remote desktop via fax’ provides users without internet connection the ability to view their cloud servers.
Apr 01 14:58:08 <_aeon>	“we are always listening to customers and they were clear, where is your fax access? For some VNC just isn’t performant enough. This new service is a world first for CloudSigma and the result of six months innovation. Customers can now remotely view their screens from anywhere in the world via fax.
Apr 01 14:58:13 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin central just had a security breach
Apr 01 14:58:26 <_aeon>	totally normal tiberiusiv
Apr 01 14:58:31 <_aeon>	happens on mondays
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Apr 01 14:59:19 <dub>	wats bitcoin central?
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Apr 01 15:01:45 <dub>	oh run by forum staff, was a scam anyway
Apr 01 15:02:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 9 @ 0.00479 = 0.0431 BTC [-]
Apr 01 15:02:34 <jborkl>	http://dpaste.com/1043267/
Apr 01 15:03:01 <jborkl>	there are 3 bitcoind , i have to remote into the other and then I will also run data on them
Apr 01 15:04:02 <TomServo>	tiberiusiv: what's the deal?  SP500 down... bitcoin up. :P
Apr 01 15:04:26 <tiberiusiv>	tomservo: sp500 LEADS in the past by a few weeks.
Apr 01 15:04:36 <tiberiusiv>	itsnot a day to day correlation did you not read anything i wrote?
Apr 01 15:04:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 112 @ 0.0048 = 0.5376 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 15:05:16 <TomServo>	Obviously I did.. just giving you shit.
Apr 01 15:05:23 <dub>	;;bids 100
Apr 01 15:05:31 <gribble>	There are currently 5833.3713 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 588194.297707 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0040 seconds
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Apr 01 15:06:43 <mircea_popescu>	dub bitcoin-central is run by davout/buncha french gypsies.
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Apr 01 15:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl that's like 35 nodes tho.
Apr 01 15:09:42 <dub>	http://blockchain.info/address/1LrPYjto3hsLzWJNstghuwdrQXB96KbrCy
Apr 01 15:09:57 <dub>	could be the mpoe loss is about to be surpassed
Apr 01 15:10:05 <jborkl>	I am getting more
Apr 01 15:10:37 <jborkl>	I will filter the info and pass it all along to you
Apr 01 15:11:05 <jborkl>	and I am pinging the other nodes to see who they are connected to
Apr 01 15:11:16 <_aeon>	bam
Apr 01 15:11:18 <ThickAsThieves>	dub what address is that for?
Apr 01 15:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	a contest ?
Apr 01 15:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl that's great!
Apr 01 15:11:46 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: nfi, could be the bitcoin central funds being stolen
Apr 01 15:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	o no wai ?!
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Apr 01 15:12:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcoin-central.net/
Apr 01 15:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	dafuck
Apr 01 15:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	you're right
Apr 01 15:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	Down for Maintenance
Apr 01 15:12:54 <mircea_popescu>	We have detected a security breach. Services are temporarily suspended until we have thoroughly investigated the situation. We will resume services as soon as possible.
Apr 01 15:12:55 <smickles>	;;market --sell 200
Apr 01 15:12:56 <gribble>	A market order to sell 200 bitcoins right now would net 20440.0587 USD and would take the last price down to 102.1210 USD, resulting in an average price of 102.2003 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 13.7545 seconds
Apr 01 15:12:58 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 01 15:13:00 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 97.78
Apr 01 15:13:03 <ThickAsThieves>	ouch
Apr 01 15:13:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99.94
Apr 01 15:13:28 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 99.94 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.6836 seconds
Apr 01 15:13:38 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 100
Apr 01 15:13:38 <gribble>	There are currently 5422.1666 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 546061.361605 USD in total. | Data vintage: 56.5098 seconds
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Apr 01 15:14:06 <smickles>	;;bids 10000000
Apr 01 15:14:09 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 10000000.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 86.8850 seconds
Apr 01 15:14:31 <smickles>	well, that's optimism fer ya
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Apr 01 15:20:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [+]
Apr 01 15:20:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [+]
Apr 01 15:21:51 <dub>	;;market --sell 41854
Apr 01 15:22:01 <gribble>	A market order to sell 41854 bitcoins right now would net 3873261.6016 USD and would take the last price down to 84.7522 USD, resulting in an average price of 92.5422 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds
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Apr 01 15:23:54 <pgp>	$4MM is a lot of money ...
Apr 01 15:24:53 <tiberiusiv>	;;market --sell 100000
Apr 01 15:24:53 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7681678.7165 USD and would take the last price down to 40.6212 USD, resulting in an average price of 76.8168 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 44.2644 seconds
Apr 01 15:25:22 <thestringpuller>	;;market --sell 50000
Apr 01 15:25:22 <gribble>	A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 4539004.2120 USD and would take the last price down to 80.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 90.7801 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 73.6644 seconds
Apr 01 15:27:24 <pgp>	https://instawallet.org/ says the same thing - the two are related?
Apr 01 15:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	pgp yes
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Apr 01 15:28:27 <pgp>	are we watching a robbery in slow motion here or am I missing something?
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Apr 01 15:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much
Apr 01 15:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	either they are mentally retarded and thibnk this is a fun april 1st thing to do
Apr 01 15:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	or else they just got ficked.
Apr 01 15:30:35 <pgp>	but several blocks have been mined since then and not a single confirmation?
Apr 01 15:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	and .10 btc in fees
Apr 01 15:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	hmmm
Apr 01 15:31:33 <pgp>	looks odd to me...
Apr 01 15:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	maybe the blocks are somehow borkt ?
Apr 01 15:31:39 <mircea_popescu>	the tx i mean not blocks
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Apr 01 15:32:18 <_aeon>	instawallet fubar or they move it all the cold storage as defense mechanism\
Apr 01 15:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	in general it's polite to say when you move large chunks like that
Apr 01 15:33:20 <mircea_popescu>	i know when i did it i got flooded with q's.
Apr 01 15:34:10 <mod6>	We have detected a security breach. << this seems to be a scary thing though - despite it being April 1st.
Apr 01 15:34:21 <pgp>	but looks like it's being moved FROM cold storage...
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Apr 01 15:34:57 <mircea_popescu>	pgp yes...
Apr 01 15:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4365005 BTC [-]
Apr 01 15:35:33 <mod6>	hmm.
Apr 01 15:35:47 <jurov>	 http://blockchain.info/address/1LrPYjto3hsLzWJNstghuwdrQXB96KbrCy
Apr 01 15:35:55 <jurov>	^^mpoe-pr dug out, how?
Apr 01 15:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4365005 = 0.873 BTC [-]
Apr 01 15:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	she saw me saying
Apr 01 15:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	i was quoting dub
Apr 01 15:36:22 <kakobrekla>	yeah man i noticed some strange uncofirmed in my bitcoin, that explains it!
Apr 01 15:37:19 <ThickAsThieves>	how safe do you think blockchain wallet is?
Apr 01 15:37:29 <pgp>	not my coins, but man...  just the thought of it makes my balls tingle with dread...
Apr 01 15:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 01 15:37:46 <pgp>	prolly TMI...
Apr 01 15:37:49 <mircea_popescu>	wtf cold wallet is that anyway.
Apr 01 15:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	lukewarm wallet.
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Apr 01 15:38:42 <pgp>	hot wallet with a few ice cubes...
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Apr 01 15:41:37 <mod6>	hmm. strange. maybe just someone fucked up?
Apr 01 15:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	yeah that's usually what it is.
Apr 01 15:42:22 <deadweasel>	whooops, accidentally sent all the cold storage to my own wallet... LATER!
Apr 01 15:42:34 <deadweasel>	my bad , i quit.
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Apr 01 15:47:23 <mod6>	must just be some kinda joke
Apr 01 15:47:41 <mod6>	nice guys though. i'll be sure to do business over there. not
Apr 01 15:48:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13441 @ 0.00060554 = 8.1391 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 15:58:02 <_aeon>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_sensory_meridian_response
Apr 01 15:58:12 <_aeon>	who wants to talk about that or admit that it happens to you
Apr 01 15:58:24 <_aeon>	specifically, the head-rush tingling from music
Apr 01 15:58:31 <mod6>	wut
Apr 01 15:58:33 <_aeon>	or someone touching your head or whispering
Apr 01 15:58:41 <_aeon>	i'm looking for data
Apr 01 15:58:50 <_aeon>	people who will admit that this happens to them
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Apr 01 16:03:32 <jurov>	_aeon: but why here?
Apr 01 16:03:45 <_aeon>	nm
Apr 01 16:03:53 <_aeon>	diareah of the hands
Apr 01 16:04:07 <_aeon>	*diarrhea
Apr 01 16:05:00 <jurov>	anyway it does happen to me, mostly when i realize some fubar situation
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Apr 01 16:05:22 <jurov>	and it's mostly on top of the head
Apr 01 16:06:50 <bitessak>	no wonder my 0.4BTC trsf from instawallet never materialized
Apr 01 16:08:06 <_aeon>	thanks
Apr 01 16:08:13 <_aeon>	it's nice to know i am not alone
Apr 01 16:08:27 <_aeon>	apparently it is something inducable
Apr 01 16:08:36 <_aeon>	which is what i'm most interested in now
Apr 01 16:08:42 <pgp>	that's right...  akin to that "sinking feeling"
Apr 01 16:09:00 <_aeon>	this, for example
Apr 01 16:09:01 <_aeon>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c_jOY89DVk&feature=youtu.be
Apr 01 16:09:11 <_aeon>	the marker on the paper noise does it somehow
Apr 01 16:09:15 <pgp>	maybe it's and empathetic response?
Apr 01 16:09:20 <Namworld>	aeon, why yes, I do have that happening. Back of the head.
Apr 01 16:09:21 <ll>	never happend with music, usualy when learning something for me
Apr 01 16:09:42 <_aeon>	i'm amzed that i have just learned this
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Apr 01 16:10:28 <benkay>	oh ho ho
Apr 01 16:10:29 <benkay>	http://blockchain.info/address/1LrPYjto3hsLzWJNstghuwdrQXB96KbrCy
Apr 01 16:11:30 <pgp>	yeah - something is definately strange with this - has yet to confim at all - how could that be?
Apr 01 16:11:47 <benkay>	;;tslb
Apr 01 16:11:55 <gribble>	Time since last block: 18 minutes and 17 seconds
Apr 01 16:13:00 <ThickAsThieves>	cnbc ticker says  bitcoin at 4:40pm est
Apr 01 16:13:21 <ThickAsThieves>	on TV
Apr 01 16:13:24 <smickles>	eh?
Apr 01 16:14:04 <dub>	pgp: no fees?
Apr 01 16:14:14 <pgp>	c'mon
Apr 01 16:14:29 <pgp>	it's got .1 BTC actually
Apr 01 16:15:01 <dub>	otru
Apr 01 16:15:08 <_aeon>	cnbc butthurt
Apr 01 16:15:16 <_aeon>	cramer's boss makes him talk about bitcoin
Apr 01 16:15:23 <pgp>	cheapskates, if you asked me...
Apr 01 16:15:39 <mod6>	yeah each of the tx's has .1 fee
Apr 01 16:16:09 <pgp>	2013-04-01 17:44:51
Apr 01 16:16:15 <pgp>	UTC I assume?
Apr 01 16:16:24 <dub>	I think actually transacting with bitcoin is pretty broken
Apr 01 16:17:02 <ThickAsThieves>	in 23min
Apr 01 16:17:07 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Apr 01 16:17:10 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1313 unconfirmed transactions. Oldest dated: 2013-03-30 16:07:38
Apr 01 16:17:17 <pgp>	wait a sec - doesn't the protocol permit the ability to book transactions in the future?
Apr 01 16:17:23 <smickles>	yup
Apr 01 16:17:30 <smickles>	and all other kind of fancy things
Apr 01 16:17:52 <smickles>	also, it could be malformed, or made in such a way that no miners will pick it up, no matter what
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Apr 01 16:18:52 <pgp>	april fools joke?
Apr 01 16:18:58 <smickles>	^
Apr 01 16:19:03 <mod6>	its gotta be
Apr 01 16:19:05 <smickles>	most likely, considering the day
Apr 01 16:19:16 <mod6>	haha, fuq
Apr 01 16:19:17 <smickles>	someone clever could do that with no fear
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Apr 01 16:19:29 <pgp>	fucked up, if you asked me...
Apr 01 16:20:12 <dub>	surely nobody is that stupid
Apr 01 16:20:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000639 = 0.0192 BTC [+]
Apr 01 16:20:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+]
Apr 01 16:20:32 <pgp>	any easy way to test parseability of transaction
Apr 01 16:20:36 <dub>	I mean, its bitcoin so stupid is implied, but..
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Apr 01 16:20:53 <smickles>	pgp: ask about it in -dev
Apr 01 16:21:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 80 @ 0.000639 = 0.0511 BTC [+]
Apr 01 16:21:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 115 @ 0.00158 = 0.1817 BTC [+]
Apr 01 16:21:53 <pgp>	got it...
Apr 01 16:22:14 *	smickles asked
Apr 01 16:22:19 <dub>	people already have
Apr 01 16:22:24 <smickles>	ah
Apr 01 16:22:24 <dub>	they are being -dev
Apr 01 16:22:34 <smickles>	so no answer
Apr 01 16:22:35 <dub>	and ignoring anything that makes them look like tards
Apr 01 16:23:17 <bitessak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 16:23:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.77500, Best ask: 103.77000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99500, Last trade: 102.77500, 24 hour volume: 81434.36555095, 24 hour low: 92.05000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 98.97011
Apr 01 16:23:46 <pgp>	pissing into the wind...
Apr 01 16:24:23 <smickles>	would blockchain.info show the fancy parts of the protocol? or bad sigs, hashes, stuff like that?
Apr 01 16:24:54 <smickles>	I mean, i could generate that tx, but my sig would be bad, but i could still broadcast it
Apr 01 16:25:37 <smickles>	gmaxwell pointed out that at his node they are orphaned
Apr 01 16:25:56 <dub>	I think he's talking to goonie?
Apr 01 16:26:48 <smickles>	dub: misfired hilight, he said
Apr 01 16:27:08 <smickles>	also, at least one of those txns is relayed by blockchain itself
Apr 01 16:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.0006 = 5.67 BTC [-]
Apr 01 16:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> and ignoring anything that makes them look like tards << this worked well for them so far.
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Apr 01 16:32:28 <Bugpowder>	AM I reading that right?  instawallet got cleaned out of 41,000 BTC?
Apr 01 16:32:40 <mircea_popescu>	seems like it
Apr 01 16:32:53 <pgp>	Txns won't confirm, but look bad...
Apr 01 16:32:53 <smickles>	Bugpowder: but the tx hasn't confirmed for some reason
Apr 01 16:33:04 <Bugpowder>	forgot to send a fee?
Apr 01 16:33:19 <Bugpowder>	heh
Apr 01 16:33:20 <pgp>	.1 x 3 BTC\
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Apr 01 16:33:49 <mircea_popescu>	no hue fee is thwere.
Apr 01 16:33:57 <jborkl>	I had a transaction get stuck the other day for 12 hours, send from bitcoind ... there was no reason at all
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Apr 01 16:34:14 <mod6>	there is a .1 BTC fee on each of the two tx's: 996b0e98db80b20516313cd32920e7c8093a8a5bf1e1b1887747338a49052ce5 && 4cf56d0c1566778030095925328f4bc7ae988657bd62fe8bc05ac67302d32b4c
Apr 01 16:34:27 <pgp>	maybe I'm just new arround here, but this seems really unsettling to me...
Apr 01 16:35:03 <Bugpowder>	Instawallet Cold Storage...  Well then.... Either its not actually cold storage or its an inside job
Apr 01 16:35:05 <smickles>	pgp: it's odd, to say the least
Apr 01 16:35:30 <smickles>	Bugpowder: or a sick april fools joke with cleverly malformed txns
Apr 01 16:35:36 <bitessak>	Bitcoin-Central and Paytunia update: Our customer's bitcoins and euros are safe and will not be affected by the security breach. We have taken the websites off-line for proper investigation.  The address 1LrPYjto3hsLzWJNstghuwdrQXB96KbrCy is under our exclusive control.
Apr 01 16:35:36 <mod6>	^^^
Apr 01 16:35:49 <mod6>	as smickles said
Apr 01 16:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	is it possible they had the storage set up so you need multiple sigs
Apr 01 16:35:58 <bitessak>	dixit bitcoin-central.net
Apr 01 16:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	and the attacker sent the tx with insufficient signaturing ?
Apr 01 16:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	a nice then
Apr 01 16:36:16 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: that could be!
Apr 01 16:36:23 <smickles>	bitessak: oooh... link :)?
Apr 01 16:36:33 <bitessak>	bitcoin-central.net
Apr 01 16:36:37 <mod6>	Oh. i see. well that helps bitessak
Apr 01 16:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 could it ?
Apr 01 16:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno if i understand the protocol enough to say
Apr 01 16:37:10 <mod6>	right, but if they had that set up, that would have been a clever safeguard
Apr 01 16:37:30 <dub>	except the coin isnt at that address..
Apr 01 16:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Apr 01 16:38:37 <pgp>	ok - let's assume for a moment that the txn is valid and like jbork say, just might take sometime to pick up...  If they have yet to confirm, couldn't you convievebly beg large mining pools to exclude the txn for a little while until the "community" could opine on it?
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Apr 01 16:39:32 <smickles>	if a sufficient % of the miners agreed to not include it, it wouldn't confirm (odds are) for a while
Apr 01 16:39:35 <smickles>	yes
Apr 01 16:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	pgp no.
Apr 01 16:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	that's such a huge breach of bitcoin security i don't even want to consider it.
Apr 01 16:40:10 <dub>	by no you mean, yes
Apr 01 16:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	i'd certainly blacklist any miner doing such rap
Apr 01 16:40:22 <smickles>	i think a lot of us would
Apr 01 16:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	crap*
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Apr 01 16:40:43 <dub>	and yet eligius has over a Th
Apr 01 16:41:07 <mircea_popescu>	sooooo ?
Apr 01 16:41:28 <pgp>	I understand, of course - just a thought experiment...
Apr 01 16:41:37 <dub>	deepbutt and guild have also helped luke with his shit or indicated willingness to do so in the past
Apr 01 16:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	that is currently the main avenue of govt attacking bitcoin
Apr 01 16:41:50 <dub>	although deepbutt is no longer a threat
Apr 01 16:41:55 <mircea_popescu>	and pretty much the only reason having miners chinese rather than american is good news.
Apr 01 16:42:14 <pgp>	lol
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Apr 01 16:42:42 <DeaDTerra>	WTS G.SDICE,GSDPT,G.MPOE,G.BBET, BTCQuick and TU.Silver shares!
Apr 01 16:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1327 @ 0.00380105 = 5.044 BTC [+]
Apr 01 16:43:09 <dub>	lol
Apr 01 16:43:14 <dub>	dump all teh scams
Apr 01 16:43:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00398997 = 5.985 BTC [+]
Apr 01 16:44:00 <smickles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bd1d1/i_think_i_just_lost_90btc_are_they_stolen_help/ << ouch
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Apr 01 16:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 179 @ 0.00398997 = 0.7142 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 16:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	dub such a hater!
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Apr 01 16:44:52 <smickles>	suddup you gyp
Apr 01 16:45:47 <smickles>	(wow, that might look bad to someone who didn't see some of my conversations with tiberiusiv)
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Apr 01 16:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 01 16:51:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000613 = 0.0736 BTC [-]
Apr 01 16:51:44 <Bugpowder>	it will look bad when these logs are read by the historians of bitcoin's formative years
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Apr 01 16:52:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000612 = 0.0306 BTC [-]
Apr 01 16:52:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 330 @ 0.000611 = 0.2016 BTC [-]
Apr 01 16:53:15 <benkay>	some people don't care
Apr 01 16:53:48 <benkay>	chaangnoi for example shows up roaring drunk
Apr 01 16:54:04 <benkay>	i otoh probably thank people too much
Apr 01 16:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	also buttseks.
Apr 01 16:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159673.0;all
Apr 01 16:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	this thread is kinda funnay.
Apr 01 16:56:51 <ThickAsThieves>	the CNBC segment on bitcoin was ok
Apr 01 16:57:07 <Scrat>	ThickAsThieves: not really
Apr 01 16:57:12 <ThickAsThieves>	they had the guy from Expensify defending and some trader thug attacking
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Apr 01 16:57:26 <ThickAsThieves>	everyone said ignorant stuff
Apr 01 16:57:32 <Scrat>	too many buzzwords were thrown around
Apr 01 16:58:02 <Bugpowder>	its CNBS what do you expect?
Apr 01 16:58:10 <ThickAsThieves>	but what if COUNTERFEIT!
Apr 01 16:58:21 <Scrat>	motherfucking counterfeit bitcoins
Apr 01 16:58:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.002399 = 0.0072 BTC [-]
Apr 01 16:58:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 197 @ 0.002012 = 0.3964 BTC [-]
Apr 01 16:59:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+]
Apr 01 16:59:30 <smickles>	woah, google indexing people's wallets
Apr 01 16:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	yeah srsly.
Apr 01 17:00:18 <smickles>	that's like when they were indexing people's root pw a while ago, but worse
Apr 01 17:00:49 <mircea_popescu>	you know... this is the disadvantge of having coders pretend they're ceos
Apr 01 17:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	when disaster strikes there's nobody to coordinate corporate efforts
Apr 01 17:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	because the ceo is busy coding.
Apr 01 17:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	total fuckery.
Apr 01 17:01:22 <benkay>	inb4 mpoe has legit ops
Apr 01 17:01:32 <mircea_popescu>	that aside.
Apr 01 17:01:47 <Bugpowder>	The inexorable rise of the calls...  mmm tastes good
Apr 01 17:02:16 <smickles>	$vwap 101
Apr 01 17:02:18 <mpexbot>	smickles: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 01 17:02:21 <smickles>	bah
Apr 01 17:02:30 <smickles>	$vwap 102
Apr 01 17:02:31 <mpexbot>	smickles: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 01 17:02:52 <smickles>	$vwap c102t
Apr 01 17:02:54 <mpexbot>	smickles: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 01 17:03:02 <smickles>	woah, something is actually wrong
Apr 01 17:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.0479 = 2.0958 BTC [+]
Apr 01 17:04:46 <kakobrekla>	>>[16:27] <aethero> Man, all these people thinking I ran off with money. Kinda sad. 3 day outage and I'm a theif now.
Apr 01 17:05:03 <kakobrekla>	like avalons holiday or sumthn?
Apr 01 17:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	his problem is more failing to address deprived's points than anything.
Apr 01 17:06:28 <ThickAsThieves>	^
Apr 01 17:06:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 5 @ 0.23024804 = 1.1512 BTC
Apr 01 17:06:56 <Bugpowder>	ding ding ding
Apr 01 17:06:57 <kakobrekla>	that aside, how can one man band take a 3 days off like dat
Apr 01 17:07:05 <kakobrekla>	its unserious
Apr 01 17:11:10 <smickles>	$vwap 101
Apr 01 17:11:12 <mpexbot>	smickles: O.USD.C101T 1 day: average: 0.23024804 high: 0.23024804 low: 0.23024804 volume: 5 btc: 1.1512402 7 day: average: 0.23024804 high: 0.23024804 low: 0.23024804 volume: 5 btc: 1.1512402 30 day: average: 0.23024804 high: 0.23024804 low: 0.23024804 volume: 5 btc: 1.1512402
Apr 01 17:11:16 <smickles>	ha ha!
Apr 01 17:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	noce
Apr 01 17:12:01 <smickles>	ya know, i think i actually wanted to use depth, anyway :/
Apr 01 17:12:05 <smickles>	$depth 101
Apr 01 17:12:07 <mpexbot>	smickles: O.USD.P101N Bids: ['1000 @ 0.29751381']
Apr 01 17:12:08 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.45370856']
Apr 01 17:12:14 <smickles>	$depth c101T
Apr 01 17:12:15 <mpexbot>	smickles: O.USD.C101T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.14333971']
Apr 01 17:12:16 <mpexbot>	smickles: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.23063909']
Apr 01 17:12:37 <smickles>	;;calc 101/.77
Apr 01 17:12:37 <gribble>	131.168831169
Apr 01 17:13:51 <smickles>	we're chagin' 105 again?
Apr 01 17:14:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8901 @ 0.00060554 = 5.3899 BTC [+]
Apr 01 17:14:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7343 @ 0.00061415 = 4.5097 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 17:21:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 60 @ 0.158 = 9.48 BTC [+]
Apr 01 17:22:42 <jurov>	^ thoroughly reviled them, but decided to buy them... feels dirty now.
Apr 01 17:23:02 <ThickAsThieves>	Yay!
Apr 01 17:23:13 <jurov>	u were selling?
Apr 01 17:23:17 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Apr 01 17:24:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.75 = 3.75 BTC [-]
Apr 01 17:24:15 <jurov>	i believe the aren't diluted so much... but it's quite a shaky bet
Apr 01 17:24:43 <ThickAsThieves>	isnt man required payout below what you paid?
Apr 01 17:24:46 <ThickAsThieves>	max*
Apr 01 17:24:59 <ThickAsThieves>	or, min*
Apr 01 17:25:03 <ThickAsThieves>	you get the idea
Apr 01 17:25:16 <Bugpowder>	if they were generated after March closing, yes
Apr 01 17:25:17 <jurov>	no, it's between 0.14 and 0.27
Apr 01 17:25:44 <jurov>	all IDIFFs ever generated averaged out
Apr 01 17:26:23 <Bugpowder>	o?
Apr 01 17:26:28 <ThickAsThieves>	another thing i did not know
Apr 01 17:26:28 <jurov>	at least i'll have a reason to annoy mp again if they fizzle out at 0.15 :D
Apr 01 17:26:35 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 01 17:26:59 <Bugpowder>	I discussed this at great length 6 months ago with mp, I forget
Apr 01 17:27:13 <Bugpowder>	I guess that limits my downside
Apr 01 17:27:18 <Bugpowder>	<whew>
Apr 01 17:27:40 <jurov>	mp said clearly they are one asset ... so i believe all collateral is put together
Apr 01 17:28:02 <Bugpowder>	my understanding was opposite
Apr 01 17:28:03 <Bugpowder>	but
Apr 01 17:28:13 <Bugpowder>	things may have changed / I don't quite recall
Apr 01 17:28:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C086T] 15 @ 0.31307618 = 4.6961 BTC
Apr 01 17:28:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;calc 86/(1-0.31307618)
Apr 01 17:28:56 <gribble>	125.195833215
Apr 01 17:29:06 <ThickAsThieves>	doing my smickled impression
Apr 01 17:29:15 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 01 17:29:21 <ThickAsThieves>	smickles*
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Apr 01 17:31:09 <Bugpowder>	lets do dis
Apr 01 17:31:27 <Bugpowder>	bidwall @ 103
Apr 01 17:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C086T] 15 @ 0.31309453 = 4.6964 BTC [+]
Apr 01 17:32:19 <tiberiusiv>	1000btc is a bidwall?
Apr 01 17:33:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C086T] 25 @ 0.31309453 = 7.8274 BTC [+]
Apr 01 17:33:54 <Bugpowder>	for people of your resources, yes
Apr 01 17:34:02 <smickles>	heh
Apr 01 17:34:19 <Bugpowder>	ZING
Apr 01 17:34:36 <Bugpowder>	ASKWALL AT 104
Apr 01 17:34:40 <Bugpowder>	clash of the titans
Apr 01 17:34:44 <Bugpowder>	400 BTC
Apr 01 17:34:46 <ThickAsThieves>	is that tiberius getting zinged, or did i do somehting dumb again?
Apr 01 17:34:46 <kakobrekla>	.selfnote.
Apr 01 17:36:32 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: i think it was part of the play-by-play on the walls
Apr 01 17:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 25 @ 0.23064781 = 5.7662 BTC [+]
Apr 01 17:36:59 <smickles>	also, this not being able to accurately predict how many puts i'll get out of a SPLIT is f-ing killing me
Apr 01 17:37:00 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Apr 01 17:37:28 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Apr 01 17:37:33 <smickles>	I thought that I had just given up on it when i put in a 10% wiggle room
Apr 01 17:37:34 <Bugpowder>	that is annoying
Apr 01 17:37:38 <smickles>	but it's not enough
Apr 01 17:37:47 <Bugpowder>	how freaking hard is it to just publish the actual formula?
Apr 01 17:38:01 <Bugpowder>	Does that reveal too much about the mpoebot pricing algo?
Apr 01 17:38:04 <smickles>	ostensibly impossible
Apr 01 17:38:46 <smickles>	Bugpowder: well, it would reveal his account of the volatility, since he's said it has to do with volatility based insurance
Apr 01 17:38:47 <Bugpowder>	maybe there could be a scaling index on the mpex site that you could use to calculate the estimate
Apr 01 17:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164143.msg1717621#msg1717621
Apr 01 17:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	here's explanation for non inclusion of instawallet txs
Apr 01 17:40:20 <Bugpowder>	so is this related to the founder's reported breach?
Apr 01 17:40:27 <smickles>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164143.msg1717686#msg1717686 << lends promise to the newbs
Apr 01 17:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	not clearly.
Apr 01 17:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/path-of-exile-story-continued/
Apr 01 17:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	stuff to do when you're sick. have toes suckled, play poe, jasmin tea...
Apr 01 17:44:34 <smickles>	aw, crap. I'm going to give that a try now, i suppose
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Apr 01 17:45:00 <benkay>	the toes thing always makes me giggle
Apr 01 17:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.09 = 2.18 BTC [+]
Apr 01 17:45:22 <benkay>	it's too hard to do surriousface while my toes are getting tongued
Apr 01 17:46:13 <jurov>	well, one of -assets core denizens just failed to notice options renaming and freaked out
Apr 01 17:46:48 <jurov>	i'll rather keep his name secret to prevent embarrassment
Apr 01 17:46:51 <benkay>	mp have you ever fucked around with dwarf fortress?
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Apr 01 17:47:01 <smickles>	fun game
Apr 01 17:47:34 <benkay>	mah ***** smicks
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Apr 01 17:48:35 <Bugpowder>	is that like nethack?
Apr 01 17:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	benkay nope no idea what that is
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Apr 01 17:49:51 <mircea_popescu>	benkay well we're not all little bishes you know :D
Apr 01 17:50:00 <benkay>	naff naff naff
Apr 01 17:50:14 <benkay>	strong similarities to nethack
Apr 01 17:50:18 <benkay>	procedural worldgen
Apr 01 17:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	@Mircea_Popescu 13m @JessicaKRoy Strippers everywhere have been doing this for many many years.
Apr 01 17:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	Jessica Roy favorited your Tweet
Apr 01 17:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	@JessicaKRoy 10m @Mircea_Popescu Is that you in your Twitter background??
Apr 01 17:50:43 <benkay>	featuring "adventurer" mode and "fortress" modes
Apr 01 17:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	@Mircea_Popescu 8m @JessicaKRoy Yeah.
Apr 01 17:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	Jessica Roy favorited your Tweet
Apr 01 17:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	chick's struck eh.
Apr 01 17:53:46 <mod6>	she must be
Apr 01 17:55:06 <benkay>	or she's playing twitter the same way you play poe.
Apr 01 17:55:25 <Namworld>	ziggap is down the drain in value
Apr 01 17:55:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.0006 = 5.22 BTC [-]
Apr 01 17:56:00 <mircea_popescu>	hah
Apr 01 17:56:05 <Bugpowder>	ding ding ding
Apr 01 17:57:49 <Bugpowder>	sorta feels like 105 might be going shortly
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Apr 01 18:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.40989999 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 18:06:34 <Bugpowder>	yep
Apr 01 18:08:50 <Bugpowder>	ROLL TIDE!
Apr 01 18:09:33 <Namworld>	BTC... stahp!
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Apr 01 18:10:27 <Namworld>	at this rate BTC either replaces other currencies or makes the msot epic crash ever...
Apr 01 18:11:16 <Troic_>	or some where in between :)
Apr 01 18:11:39 <dub>	aaand $2
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Apr 01 18:12:13 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 01 18:12:13 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 25 minutes and 12 seconds ago: <smickles> fun game
Apr 01 18:12:19 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 01 18:12:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 105.48528, Best ask: 105.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50472, Last trade: 105.48528, 24 hour volume: 85532.71774427, 24 hour low: 92.20000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 99.52134
Apr 01 18:12:25 <thestringpuller>	!ticker ^oix
Apr 01 18:12:26 <assbot>	These beans is shit.
Apr 01 18:12:32 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 01 18:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 86.04499804 / 100.46060009 / 132.19053746 (9160 shares, 4,506.96 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 01 18:12:44 <thestringpuller>	:D
Apr 01 18:12:45 <Namworld>	at this rate in like 5 weeks we're at infinite USD/BTC
Apr 01 18:12:58 <thestringpuller>	No just until demand shuts off
Apr 01 18:13:20 <thestringpuller>	In order support a full economy BTC requires 1000-5000 USD per coin
Apr 01 18:13:48 <Namworld>	good...
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Apr 01 18:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00201393 = 20.1393 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:19:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.00201394 = 10.0697 BTC [+]
Apr 01 18:19:14 <thestringpuller>	Oh wow
Apr 01 18:19:19 <thestringpuller>	Go bbet
Apr 01 18:19:28 <thestringpuller>	!ticker H HIM
Apr 01 18:19:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.06000000 / 2.06 / 2.06000000 (2 shares, 4.12000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.79268326 / 2.08000000 (215 shares, 385.42689996 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.78615393 / 2.08000000 (739 shares, 1319.96775265 BTC)
Apr 01 18:22:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Apr 01 18:22:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.749999 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:22:52 <thestringpuller>	mi
Apr 01 18:23:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.741 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:23:55 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu i think you have provided an opportunity given you don't hedge
Apr 01 18:24:16 <nanotube>	smickles: pong. redirect help to list you want?
Apr 01 18:24:50 <thestringpuller>	Someone could provide bondholders a service to hedge their risks
Apr 01 18:24:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.25103 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:24:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.25103 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller how'd that work ?
Apr 01 18:27:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.735 = 3.675 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:27:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.736 BTC [+]
Apr 01 18:27:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7301 = 2.1903 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:28:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7301 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:28:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 18:30:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:30:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.0099 = 0.0594 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:30:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 19 @ 0.0099 = 0.1881 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:30:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.726 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:31:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.726 = 1.452 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:31:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.725 = 3.625 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:31:31 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu : since mpoe is like "ground" in that option hedges flow to it, one could provide a second tier of insurance to the bondholders. Essentially cutting up the exposure and selling it off...
Apr 01 18:31:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7241 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:31:53 <thestringpuller>	But at the bondholders discretion, not MPOE
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Apr 01 18:32:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00401 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:32:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 18:32:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:32:51 <jborkl>	at this rate SD will be over 4 million bets tomorrow
Apr 01 18:33:00 <jborkl>	total all time
Apr 01 18:33:26 <jurov>	these last 3 bbet trades were particularly derpy... inb 3 coinbr users
Apr 01 18:33:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Apr 01 18:33:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0031 / 0.00346482 / 0.00419788 (71207 shares, 246.72 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00332803 / 0.0045 (705238 shares, 2,347.06 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00433193 / 0.006225 (1671034 shares, 7,238.81 BTC)
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Apr 01 18:34:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7231 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:34:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7222 = 7.222 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:34:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.722 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:34:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7212 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:36:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00389 = 10.892 BTC [-]
Apr 01 18:36:39 <dub>	this clit is both malformed and unresponsive
Apr 01 18:37:08 <benkay>	sounds like a waste of time
Apr 01 18:37:19 <dub>	I yearn for another kind of clit
Apr 01 18:37:41 <mod6>	I AM THE CLIT COMMANDER
Apr 01 18:38:04 <dub>	this toshiba clit is too small, rough to the touch and blue
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Apr 01 18:38:54 <dub>	whereas my stinkpad clit is bigger, flatter and more correctly hued
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Apr 01 18:40:12 <dub>	also clit use in general is painful without a scroll button
Apr 01 18:41:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 18:44:42 <jurov>	CoinBr referrals paid out and monthly fee levied.
Apr 01 18:44:56 <jurov>	Monthly fee was halved due to March problems.
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Apr 01 18:45:32 <thestringpuller>	mod6 we need to talk
Apr 01 18:45:37 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mod6
Apr 01 18:45:37 <gribble>	mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 minutes and 55 seconds ago: <mod6> I AM THE CLIT COMMANDER
Apr 01 18:49:58 <jurov>	thestringpuller, I think S.MPOE moves quite independently from the bonds, no?
Apr 01 18:50:09 <thestringpuller>	Mpoe the bot
Apr 01 18:51:33 <jurov>	then i don't understand what you have in mind
Apr 01 18:52:16 <thestringpuller>	Bondholders have nothing to hedge their bets against
Apr 01 18:52:41 <thestringpuller>	So provide a service that buys mpoe bonds essentially at some price if things go bad
Apr 01 18:53:41 <jurov>	and who will eat the loss then?
Apr 01 18:53:57 <thestringpuller>	The service
Apr 01 18:54:25 <thestringpuller>	That's their job. Internally they can cover the losses anyway they see fit.
Apr 01 18:54:52 <thestringpuller>	Via another asset that paid off or some other revenue stream
Apr 01 18:55:11 <jurov>	still i don't get it. MPOE is obliged to pay out exercises, not "as it sees fit"
Apr 01 18:55:25 <thestringpuller>	No no you misunderstand
Apr 01 18:55:32 <thestringpuller>	Mpoe keeps doing what its doing
Apr 01 18:56:10 <thestringpuller>	Bond holders however can sell their stake to some service who specializes in hedging. For when things go awry
Apr 01 18:56:43 <thestringpuller>	Bondholders have no way to exit their position if things go bad
Apr 01 18:57:01 <jurov>	perhaps it would be best to explain on practical example of MPBPT
Apr 01 18:57:41 <jurov>	so , if you were tahat service, you'll place a bid at, say, 0.09 (nominal value is 0.1)?
Apr 01 18:57:49 <thestringpuller>	Yes
Apr 01 18:58:07 <jurov>	and how would you recover it?
Apr 01 18:58:48 <thestringpuller>	Diversification or other parts of the portfolio. You make some revenue from the 10% under bid.
Apr 01 18:59:05 <thestringpuller>	The same way an insurance company covers losses...
Apr 01 18:59:14 <thestringpuller>	Its just a brainstorm
Apr 01 19:00:28 <jurov>	there were actually some such bids
Apr 01 19:00:34 <thestringpuller>	MPOE passes exposure to bondholders, bondholders should be able to pass exposure to another party
Apr 01 19:00:53 <thestringpuller>	Particular a party equipped to recover losses
Apr 01 19:00:58 <thestringpuller>	Particularly*
Apr 01 19:02:21 <jurov>	i already advised bondholders to hedge using options (and i actually did myself)
Apr 01 19:02:56 <smickles>	;;seen mod6
Apr 01 19:02:56 <gribble>	mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 25 minutes and 14 seconds ago: <mod6> I AM THE CLIT COMMANDER
Apr 01 19:02:57 <jurov>	don't see any other possibility, since btc price can exceed any independent hedge
Apr 01 19:03:20 <jurov>	mod6 is commanding clit, don't disturb
Apr 01 19:03:44 <jurov>	... so the best hedge is to put something into mpoe's other end
Apr 01 19:04:06 <thestringpuller>	jurov lets take an insurance examole
Apr 01 19:04:43 <jurov>	insurance usually doesn't deal with 300% increase in a month...
Apr 01 19:04:46 <thestringpuller>	Lets say a legit BTC insurance company exist using a reserve-invest model
Apr 01 19:05:04 <thestringpuller>	This company would have other policies, not just options
Apr 01 19:05:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.759 BTC [+]
Apr 01 19:05:42 <thestringpuller>	If writing options are bad one month, perhaps there was drought so there were 0 flood insurance claims
Apr 01 19:06:06 <thestringpuller>	Instead of limiting exposure you diversify
Apr 01 19:06:31 <jurov>	then it's diversification, not a hedge
Apr 01 19:06:58 <thestringpuller>	Yes. But to the bondholder it would be.
Apr 01 19:07:05 <thestringpuller>	In his eyes
Apr 01 19:07:11 <thestringpuller>	It would stop losses.
Apr 01 19:07:17 <thestringpuller>	Or minimize
Apr 01 19:07:23 <thestringpuller>	Insuring the insurer so to speak...
Apr 01 19:07:54 <jurov>	well, so if it was 50% bonds / 50% something else
Apr 01 19:08:02 <thestringpuller>	Yes.
Apr 01 19:08:14 <jurov>	what made 20% in March to offset bonds loss?
Apr 01 19:08:32 <jurov>	only MPOE call options afaik.
Apr 01 19:09:15 <jurov>	or maybe shorting ziggap, lol
Apr 01 19:09:30 <thestringpuller>	A lot of things outside bitcoins. But your point is clear
Apr 01 19:09:34 <thestringpuller>	Poor ziggap
Apr 01 19:10:16 <smickles>	$vwap ^
Apr 01 19:10:18 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 100.46060009 high: 132.19053746 low: 86.04499804 volume: 9160 btc: 4506.96446122 30 day: no data
Apr 01 19:10:26 <thestringpuller>	My scenario is hypothetical and in a world where btc services are more developed, vis-a-vis, a btc insurance company
Apr 01 19:10:32 <thestringpuller>	Bbl
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Apr 01 19:11:52 <jurov>	Actually, I think we're onto something here for someone who has the balls.
Apr 01 19:12:07 <jurov>	Since MPOE options can provide roughly 5x leverage as MP wrote
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Apr 01 19:12:44 <jurov>	a fund that invests 60% into bonds, 20% into calls, 20% into puts
Apr 01 19:13:20 <jurov>	... well, that needs quality time with spreadsheet.
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Apr 01 19:13:30 <smickles>	jurov: i don't think mpbor are a good investment
Apr 01 19:14:43 <ThickAsThieves>	in case you missed it http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y1POVoi9NPk
Apr 01 19:15:11 <jurov>	smickles, care to elaborate?
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Apr 01 19:21:10 <ThickAsThieves>	whoa ltc at .0184
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Apr 01 19:24:04 <smickles>	jurov: i don't like the limited gain with unlimited loss, and the delay of moving into and out of it. maybe i should look at the coinbr offering on bitfunder
Apr 01 19:24:17 <smickles>	ThickAsThieves: thanks for that link :)
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Apr 01 19:25:02 <jurov>	o, CoinBr.MPBPT-* link is the raw thing, just sliced to 0.1BTC parts.
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Apr 01 19:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.53 = 5.3 BTC [-]
Apr 01 19:28:14 <jurov>	if i found a way to improve it, i'd certainly spam it around everywhere :D
Apr 01 19:29:13 <ThickAsThieves>	hmmm http://bitbet.us/bet/297/litecoin-surges-to-02-bitcoins-per-litecoin/
Apr 01 19:29:55 <jurov>	smickles, if MPBPT would be redirected to soebot instead, would you know how to limit possible loss?
Apr 01 19:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.511 = 2.555 BTC [-]
Apr 01 19:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.509 = 1.018 BTC [-]
Apr 01 19:30:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.505 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 19:30:25 <smickles>	jurov: could i not buy it and sell it partway thru the month tho?
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Apr 01 19:30:58 <jurov>	suppose that yes.
Apr 01 19:31:30 <jurov>	you would be able to buy/sell against MPBPT orderbook on BF
Apr 01 19:31:41 <smickles>	that's a bit of an improvement there
Apr 01 19:31:48 <jurov>	how so?
Apr 01 19:31:52 <smickles>	soebot isn't ready for primetime yet
Apr 01 19:32:27 <smickles>	well, part of the problem with mpbor is that it takes so long to enter and exit positions on it
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Apr 01 19:32:51 <smickles>	one could've seen this recent loss coming before anyone else, and not been able to do anything about it
Apr 01 19:33:21 <jurov>	that's problem inherent to mpex.. so that cover must be kept until the end of the month
Apr 01 19:33:37 <smickles>	but if you had mpbpt instead, there is at least the possibility of selling when you see a bad cloud
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Apr 01 19:34:15 <jurov>	yea, some sold at 0.9, that is possible already
Apr 01 19:34:29 <jurov>	but i'm asking how the bot comes to picture
Apr 01 19:34:47 <jurov>	interaacting with bf order book
Apr 01 19:35:03 <kakobrekla>	how come that scammy nvc is trading higher than ltc
Apr 01 19:35:19 <kakobrekla>	i cant make sense of it
Apr 01 19:35:56 <smickles>	and i'd like to take funding for for soebot, since most of the time it just sits there and says, I need more X
Apr 01 19:36:31 <smickles>	but there are still, even now things to be sorted out with mpex interaction
Apr 01 19:36:49 <jurov>	hahaha, i *so* know
Apr 01 19:36:55 <jurov>	these things
Apr 01 19:37:28 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 01 19:37:33 <kakobrekla>	apparently its a russian thing
Apr 01 19:37:35 <smickles>	so far this month, i've put at least 24 btc to surety for absoluty nothing
Apr 01 19:38:15 <smickles>	"1.0 BTC for 0 O.USD.P086T"
Apr 01 19:38:16 <jurov>	smickles, if you can't afford to license coinbr code, maybe we can think about alphatesting an api
Apr 01 19:38:22 <smickles>	kinda funny how many of those i have
Apr 01 19:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44499999 BTC [+]
Apr 01 19:39:03 <smickles>	jurov: so you know the volatility impact on SPLIT insurance addition to strike/spot?
Apr 01 19:39:49 <jurov>	ah, not that.
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Apr 01 19:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.574999 = 2.875 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 19:42:32 <Diablo-D3>	why do people think BFL is actually shipping?
Apr 01 19:42:50 <Diablo-D3>	is this some april fools joke I missed?
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Apr 01 19:44:11 <jurov>	no it's marketing campaing to promote idiff futures :D
Apr 01 19:44:33 <benkay>	ha
Apr 01 19:44:34 <benkay>	i actually lol'd
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Apr 01 19:45:04 <smickles>	the same reasone peeps believe in god is my guess
Apr 01 19:45:19 <tiberiusiv>	reasone
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Apr 01 19:47:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75999 BTC [+]
Apr 01 19:47:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.759999 = 3.04 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 19:54:17 <kakobrekla>	so ian officially scam now
Apr 01 19:54:22 <kakobrekla>	baked well.
Apr 01 19:54:32 <kakobrekla>	cupcakes!
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Apr 01 19:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.43 = 2.15 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 19:56:17 <tiberiusiv>	kakobrekla who is ian
Apr 01 19:57:01 <kakobrekla>	scamzor https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104489.320
Apr 01 19:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.41 = 0.82 BTC [-]
Apr 01 19:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Apr 01 19:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 20:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.574999 = 1.15 BTC [+]
Apr 01 20:05:48 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 01 20:05:50 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.06000000 / 2.06 / 2.06000000 (2 shares, 4.12000000 BTC), 7D: 1.45000000 / 1.872268 / 2.08000000 (175 shares, 327.64689996 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.7876777 / 2.08000000 (733 shares, 1310.36775265 BTC)
Apr 01 20:06:13 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 110
Apr 01 20:06:19 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 90
Apr 01 20:06:20 <gribble>	There are currently 10674.488 bitcoins offered at or under 110.0 USD, worth 1149842.29518 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Apr 01 20:06:20 <gribble>	There are currently 30415.187 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 2848518.63728 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0072 seconds
Apr 01 20:06:32 <thestringpuller>	;;market --sell 30000
Apr 01 20:06:32 <gribble>	A market order to sell 30000 bitcoins right now would net 2811151.8105 USD and would take the last price down to 90.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 93.7051 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 12.6458 seconds
Apr 01 20:07:18 <bitessak>	;;ticker
Apr 01 20:07:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 104.00001, Best ask: 104.33999, Bid-ask spread: 0.33998, Last trade: 104.00000, 24 hour volume: 90714.89784916, 24 hour low: 92.23610, 24 hour high: 106.00000, 24 hour vwap: 100.05563
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Apr 01 20:10:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 01 20:10:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006 / 0.00060425 / 0.00061415 (271863 shares, 164.27 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.0006523 / 0.00068374 (2448763 shares, 1,597.33 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.00072549 / 0.00078628 (18056344 shares, 13,099.71 BTC)
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Apr 01 20:14:01 <smickles>	;;bids 0
Apr 01 20:14:08 <gribble>	There are currently 35053741 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9955250.10568 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0094 seconds
Apr 01 20:14:12 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Apr 01 20:14:16 <mpexbot>	smickles: 997 unconfirmed transactions. Oldest dated: 2013-03-30 20:00:57
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Apr 01 20:23:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 01 20:23:55 <gribble>	64542.718427
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Apr 01 20:25:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15223 @ 0.0006 = 9.1338 BTC [-]
Apr 01 20:25:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4058 @ 0.0005973 = 2.4238 BTC [-]
Apr 01 20:25:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1619 @ 0.00059218 = 0.9587 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 20:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00061282 = 5.209 BTC [+]
Apr 01 20:40:35 <dub>	wat http://blockchain.info/tx/ff936e23d1f4b0b0f1dfab59070563acf69fbca19b7d589d590a31f0de3cdaac
Apr 01 20:41:10 <kakobrekla>	whats wrong?
Apr 01 20:42:00 <jurov>	0.001 -> 0.0005 + 0.0005 txfee
Apr 01 20:43:02 <dub>	sent from 1Fuck to the btcentral addy
Apr 01 20:43:36 <jurov>	lol
Apr 01 20:44:31 <benkay>	someone caught giving a fuck?
Apr 01 20:46:53 <ThickAsThieves>	wow ltc really is gonna hit .02
Apr 01 20:47:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.740001 = 37.0001 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 20:48:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.74 = 5.18 BTC [-]
Apr 01 20:49:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7351 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 20:51:05 <ThickAsThieves>	Get ready to close the BitBet :) http://bitbet.us/bet/297/litecoin-surges-to-02-bitcoins-per-litecoin
Apr 01 20:51:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7321 BTC [-]
Apr 01 20:51:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.732 = 1.464 BTC [-]
Apr 01 20:51:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [-]
Apr 01 20:51:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 20:54:29 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc at .199
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Apr 01 20:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.574999 = 6.325 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 20:59:04 <benkay>	hm. who hosts a good btc-ltc chart?
Apr 01 21:00:06 <kakobrekla>	http://www.ltc-charts.com/
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Apr 01 21:00:36 <ThickAsThieves>	didnt quite make it to .02 :(
Apr 01 21:00:40 <kakobrekla>	thats all i know
Apr 01 21:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.574999 = 4.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 21:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.57499999 = 2.875 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 21:13:47 <kakobrekla>	Confirmed bets: 3001
Apr 01 21:14:28 <kakobrekla>	in less than 3 months
Apr 01 21:14:53 <dub>	thats over 9000 per 9 months
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Apr 01 21:15:08 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 01 21:18:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.0599 = 4.1198 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 21:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	<mod6> I AM THE CLIT COMMANDER << ahahaha
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Apr 01 21:23:40 <mircea_popescu>	ha! BitBet has resolved ~400 btc worth of bets this month so far.
Apr 01 21:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	it's april 2nd
Apr 01 21:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> mod6 is commanding clit, don't disturb < lmao. o gawd, best comedy show in town this chan.
Apr 01 21:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell thestringpuller yea, the MPCDO stuff tried to.
Apr 01 21:25:15 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 01 21:25:20 <mircea_popescu>	the result was that everyone else defaulted.
Apr 01 21:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	smickles << how'sgain limited ?
Apr 01 21:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> one could've seen this recent loss coming before anyone else, and not been able to do anything about it << of fucking course. that is the point of it, you have to actually provide the service, as a bondholder.
Apr 01 21:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	<smickles> "1.0 BTC for 0 O.USD.P086T" << you're kinda misusing that. it's not really intended to do 1 contract at a time. do 1k.
Apr 01 21:27:51 <Namworld>	there's some high fees on the options this month...
Apr 01 21:27:54 <mircea_popescu>	hm dub wtf is that
Apr 01 21:28:01 <Namworld>	did everyone up the % they ask on deposits?
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Apr 01 21:30:19 <kakobrekla>	alt chains going crazy
Apr 01 21:30:25 <kakobrekla>	nmc doubled today
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Apr 01 21:33:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000639 = 0.0767 BTC [+]
Apr 01 21:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 01 21:34:10 <mircea_popescu>	i think the driving force here is just how poor / desperate americans are.
Apr 01 21:34:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.000648 = 0.0058 BTC [+]
Apr 01 21:34:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 47 @ 0.000658 = 0.0309 BTC [+]
Apr 01 21:34:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 652 @ 0.000674 = 0.4394 BTC [+]
Apr 01 21:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	they will basically spend 2x to buy some ersatz of anything just as long as it's niominally cheaper.
Apr 01 21:34:31 <kakobrekla>	wit the alts?
Apr 01 21:34:34 <jborkl>	heh no love
Apr 01 21:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 01 21:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	"i am getting A DEAL!!!!"
Apr 01 21:34:41 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Apr 01 21:34:49 <kakobrekla>	NVC is russian domain
Apr 01 21:35:06 <kakobrekla>	trading higher than 'long' established LTC
Apr 01 21:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	"by buying tv dinners which are just as good as actual food, i only pay $5 instead of $50!!11"
Apr 01 21:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	except tv dinners aren't really just as good as actual food.
Apr 01 21:35:57 <jborkl>	why buy 10 fax rolex when you can buy 1 real one
Apr 01 21:35:59 <mircea_popescu>	in fact the costs of maintaining your metabolic health on junk food are about 2x what you'd pay if you just ate cooked stuff.
Apr 01 21:36:02 <jborkl>	fake
Apr 01 21:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl i dunno, but more fakes are sold than original.
Apr 01 21:36:37 <jborkl>	poor people make bad choices
Apr 01 21:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. just a theory.
Apr 01 21:36:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1029 @ 0.000675 = 0.6946 BTC [+]
Apr 01 21:36:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 281 @ 0.000675 = 0.1897 BTC [+]
Apr 01 21:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/BitBetsBets/status/318899438645047296
Apr 01 21:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile ~2500 bux bet on litecoin hehe
Apr 01 21:37:41 <kakobrekla>	https://twitter.com/BitBetsBets/status/318897459424264192
Apr 01 21:37:43 <kakobrekla>	emm
Apr 01 21:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 01 21:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	has it actually crossed ?
Apr 01 21:39:58 <kakobrekla>	not yet
Apr 01 21:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha tell you waht... if it fizzles now...
Apr 01 21:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	o gawd.
Apr 01 21:40:22 <kakobrekla>	too bad that wasnt a late bet :p
Apr 01 21:40:27 <kakobrekla>	but anyway https://btc-e.com/exchange/ltc_btc
Apr 01 21:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	nono. good it wasn't.
Apr 01 21:40:43 <kakobrekla>	any time now
Apr 01 21:40:49 <mircea_popescu>	28/03/13	Temporarily no accept liqpay
Apr 01 21:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	please no disturb
Apr 01 21:40:55 <mircea_popescu>	dwolla got.
Apr 01 21:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	so basically the reason russians are so weak in btc is that for whatever reasons they've decided to move to ltc at some point ?
Apr 01 21:41:59 <kakobrekla>	NVC
Apr 01 21:42:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 21:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.565 = 3.39 BTC [-]
Apr 01 21:52:24 <smickles>	< mircea_popescu> <smickles> "1.0 BTC for 0 O.USD.P086T" << you're kinda misusing that. it's not  really intended to do 1 contract at a time. do 1k. <<< i'm not sure i'd want to do 1k if i can't predict what i'm going to get out of it
Apr 01 21:52:38 <mircea_popescu>	but you're currently fighting with a rounding error.
Apr 01 21:52:52 <mircea_popescu>	your 1k would be between 896 or 895, ie, either
Apr 01 21:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	your 1 is either 1 or 0
Apr 01 21:53:00 <mircea_popescu>	big diff
Apr 01 21:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	(not actual figures)
Apr 01 21:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.565 = 1.13 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 21:56:53 <smickles>	i don't mind a rounding error, but i'd like to be able to ensure i'm on the 896 side w/o risking going to 897
Apr 01 21:57:37 <smickles>	as it is now, i have that risk, and it's still unquantifiable :o
Apr 01 21:58:46 <mircea_popescu>	well if you need 1 contract granularity there's a problem
Apr 01 21:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	0.1% i mean
Apr 01 21:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	it's easy enough for calls - those always give you exactly the btc
Apr 01 21:59:36 <ChaangNoi>	$2 ltc? oh lol
Apr 01 21:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	but on puts i don't think it'll ever be doable.
Apr 01 21:59:47 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi it crossed ?
Apr 01 21:59:51 <ChaangNoi>	its close
Apr 01 21:59:56 <ChaangNoi>	not crossed
Apr 01 22:00:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.402 = 1.608 BTC [+]
Apr 01 22:00:07 <ChaangNoi>	but soon:)
Apr 01 22:00:16 <mod6>	http://youtu.be/x4-ChcL6Pzo << I AM THE CLIT COMMANDER
Apr 01 22:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	if it never crosses that bitbet is going to be a pain
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Apr 01 22:00:52 <ChaangNoi>	the high ratio was .0199 when btc on gox was over $100 so it sorta was over $2,
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Apr 01 22:01:10 <ChaangNoi>	oh, i dont know about the bitbet
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Apr 01 22:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4005 = 2.0025 BTC [-]
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Apr 01 22:02:28 <mod6>	and: WHAT THE FUCK IS THE INTERNET << http://youtu.be/h5tcAXMDxfY
Apr 01 22:02:34 <kakobrekla>	here is you litecoin bet
Apr 01 22:02:35 <kakobrekla>	http://bit.ly/17a28Zy
Apr 01 22:03:57 <ChaangNoi>	kako that a price and asks chart?
Apr 01 22:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.40000001 BTC [-]
Apr 01 22:04:10 <kakobrekla>	no
Apr 01 22:04:15 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Apr 01 22:04:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.05990000 / 2.05995 / 2.06000000 (4 shares, 8.23980000 BTC), 7D: 1.45000000 / 1.87438814 / 2.08000000 (177 shares, 331.76669996 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.78841844 / 2.08000000 (735 shares, 1314.48755265 BTC)
Apr 01 22:04:22 <kakobrekla>	its a 'histograph'
Apr 01 22:04:25 <kakobrekla>	http://bitbet.us/bet/297/litecoin-surges-to-02-bitcoins-per-litecoin/
Apr 01 22:04:31 <kakobrekla>	see?
Apr 01 22:04:33 <thestringpuller>	i see how it is assbot
Apr 01 22:04:36 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 01 22:04:42 <ChaangNoi>	oh, its a chart of the bet
Apr 01 22:04:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 103.10001, Best ask: 103.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 103.70000, 24 hour volume: 92564.85061965, 24 hour low: 92.23610, 24 hour high: 106.00000, 24 hour vwap: 100.26209
Apr 01 22:04:48 <ChaangNoi>	yes and no's
Apr 01 22:04:49 <ChaangNoi>	got ya
Apr 01 22:04:51 <kakobrekla>	correct
Apr 01 22:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.4 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Apr 01 22:05:38 <smickles>	mircea_popescu: well, i gotta complain about something ;)
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Apr 01 22:06:05 <mod6>	oh smickles, were you looking for me?
Apr 01 22:06:16 <ChaangNoi>	i would have never expected ltc to go up this fast, its crzy
Apr 01 22:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	smickles :p
Apr 01 22:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi tell me about it. im sorry i got out
Apr 01 22:06:51 <ChaangNoi>	i sold about 60% of my ltc
Apr 01 22:06:53 <smickles>	mod6: naw, not really, i just wanted the seen command to repeat your last line again :)
Apr 01 22:07:06 <mod6>	:D
Apr 01 22:07:06 <ChaangNoi>	in the 40 to 75 cent range, and i thought i was doing well at the time, lol
Apr 01 22:07:19 <mod6>	I love jay & silent bob.
Apr 01 22:07:23 <ChaangNoi>	if gox lists litecoin, it will be huge for ltc
Apr 01 22:08:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.4 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Apr 01 22:08:08 <smickles>	the lag will be made worse by expanding the product line
Apr 01 22:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.5748 = 1.7244 BTC [+]
Apr 01 22:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	smickles no because infinity is selfequal :D
Apr 01 22:09:58 <smickles>	you really wanna start talking about set theory mircea_popescu ?
Apr 01 22:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.565 = 2.825 BTC [-]
Apr 01 22:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Apr 01 22:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	(just kidding)
Apr 01 22:10:41 <smickles>	well, not that i'm well versed on the topic, but ... oh
Apr 01 22:10:52 <smickles>	you got me!
Apr 01 22:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	the power, i has it
Apr 01 22:11:22 *	smickles goes back to reading econpapers
Apr 01 22:11:44 <tiberiusiv>	litecoin continues debasing btc
Apr 01 22:12:04 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav!
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Apr 01 22:12:22 <ChaangNoi>	ltc adds to the value of btc:)
Apr 01 22:12:30 <tiberiusiv>	no it doesnt
Apr 01 22:12:37 <ChaangNoi>	its like if there was only the usd then lulz but cuz other fiat too they all gain
Apr 01 22:12:40 <tiberiusiv>	its already removed at least 20mil of market cap away from btc
Apr 01 22:12:54 <tiberiusiv>	usd is tax farm specific.
Apr 01 22:13:07 <tiberiusiv>	you have to use it in payment of taxes so theres always a bid
Apr 01 22:13:07 <ChaangNoi>	lol you think that 20 million only came from btc and not fiat? lhahahalolhaha
Apr 01 22:13:16 <Bugpowder_>	let's be serious here.  People are so desperate to get in on something 'cheap' that might explode in price, they are driving up another spec bubble in litecoin
Apr 01 22:13:16 <tiberiusiv>	overall
Apr 01 22:13:35 <tiberiusiv>	$20mil of market cap has been taken from btc
Apr 01 22:13:36 <Bugpowder_>	most people are probably buying it with BTC
Apr 01 22:13:45 <ChaangNoi>	bugpowder once ltc is listed on gox i see ltc tradeing in the $15 range soon
Apr 01 22:13:46 <tiberiusiv>	hence the case and point
Apr 01 22:14:00 <Bugpowder_>	jesus christ no
Apr 01 22:14:08 <tiberiusiv>	chaangnoi yea right.
Apr 01 22:14:11 <Bugpowder_>	this is a fucking few day blip
Apr 01 22:14:15 <ChaangNoi>	you think it will get to the $20s?
Apr 01 22:14:15 <tiberiusiv>	that would put the market cap at like 500mil
Apr 01 22:14:20 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder yup
Apr 01 22:14:45 <tiberiusiv>	chaangnoi you are an idiot. themarket cap of ltc is already like 30mil
Apr 01 22:14:52 <tiberiusiv>	its not going to be half of bitcoin.
Apr 01 22:15:04 <Bugpowder_>	its hard to get USD into BTC-e, so most is probably BTC buyers
Apr 01 22:15:15 <Bugpowder_>	also, it didn't take 20MM off the cap
Apr 01 22:15:17 <tiberiusiv>	its the lamers with 1-2 btc's
Apr 01 22:15:19 <tiberiusiv>	trying to get rich
Apr 01 22:15:21 <Bugpowder_>	yep
Apr 01 22:15:22 <Bugpowder_>	exactly
Apr 01 22:15:32 <Bugpowder_>	or maybe a few medium players
Apr 01 22:15:37 <Bugpowder_>	looking for a quick flip
Apr 01 22:15:46 <tiberiusiv>	the order book is all $10-20
Apr 01 22:15:47 <Bugpowder_>	I almost pulled the trigger this morning
Apr 01 22:16:02 <Bugpowder_>	but I just don't want to get off the BTC train
Apr 01 22:16:06 <tiberiusiv>	you cant play litecoin with anything more then $200
Apr 01 22:16:20 <tiberiusiv>	it moves the price too much lol
Apr 01 22:16:34 <ChaangNoi>	i have traded btc for ltc for over a yeay and had all my ltc paid for so i just held to see what would happen
Apr 01 22:16:57 <ChaangNoi>	im pleased to see this but really, gox is just going to make the price jump more
Apr 01 22:16:58 <tiberiusiv>	ltc is a joke and a half
Apr 01 22:17:20 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav even so, im very pleased:)
Apr 01 22:17:26 <tiberiusiv>	ltc on mtgox = end of crypto
Apr 01 22:17:31 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Apr 01 22:17:39 <tiberiusiv>	nothing stopping another 20 replicas being listed
Apr 01 22:17:43 <tiberiusiv>	and they all debase each other
Apr 01 22:17:49 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Apr 01 22:17:56 <ChaangNoi>	econ 101, try that
Apr 01 22:17:56 <Bugpowder_>	It took $2M total volume to >2x the price
Apr 01 22:18:12 <tiberiusiv>	thats quite a bit
Apr 01 22:18:32 <tiberiusiv>	chaangnoi yea econ 101 you try it. they all have the same properties.
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Apr 01 22:18:46 <tiberiusiv>	people get confused to what coin to use
Apr 01 22:18:54 <tiberiusiv>	shaky confidence
Apr 01 22:19:00 <ChaangNoi>	i clearly dont need to go back to econ 101, i ahve the phat wallets to prove it:)
Apr 01 22:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Apr 01 22:20:04 <ChaangNoi>	for some lolz go check the nmc price on btc-e
Apr 01 22:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	phat wallets ?! when did that happen.
Apr 01 22:20:42 <ChaangNoi>	well they are giant compared to tiberslav, i doubt im at your level
Apr 01 22:20:52 <mircea_popescu>	o that guy
Apr 01 22:21:01 <tiberiusiv>	lol yea right chaang
Apr 01 22:21:06 <ChaangNoi>	you have him on ignore?
Apr 01 22:21:10 <tiberiusiv>	after mirceas loss im probably the wealthiest in here
Apr 01 22:21:25 <tiberiusiv>	after he lost more in 30days then voorhees made in 1 year of sdice.
Apr 01 22:21:33 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav do you even have a whole btc?
Apr 01 22:21:46 <KRS1>	that is frkn awesome you guys are set
Apr 01 22:21:56 <ChaangNoi>	see that is just a good problem to have, be able to lose that much and stil be like whatever
Apr 01 22:22:04 <KRS1>	i imagine it might be hard to unload all that btc for currency
Apr 01 22:22:04 <tiberiusiv>	lol hes not like whatever
Apr 01 22:22:17 <ChaangNoi>	oh tiberslav
Apr 01 22:22:20 <tiberiusiv>	KRS1: hence why most will never cashout
Apr 01 22:22:29 <tiberiusiv>	chaangnoi: his ego = destruction of himself
Apr 01 22:22:35 <tiberiusiv>	refuses to admit error so continues on
Apr 01 22:22:49 <tiberiusiv>	1-2 more volatile BTC months and mircea is broke
Apr 01 22:22:53 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav your exparts are amazing
Apr 01 22:23:11 <KRS1>	uncle sam come knocking for that 40% too
Apr 01 22:23:20 <Bugpowder_>	tiberiusiv: 1-2 more straight up months with no late pullbacks, he will be in pain
Apr 01 22:23:25 <Bugpowder_>	I WILL PUT HIM IN PAIN
Apr 01 22:23:40 <tiberiusiv>	what you mean late pullbacks?
Apr 01 22:23:41 <Bugpowder_>	moar
Apr 01 22:23:50 <Bugpowder_>	dip in the last 24hr
Apr 01 22:23:50 <tiberiusiv>	if people are loaded up on put options and the price tanks hes in big trouble
Apr 01 22:24:04 <Bugpowder_>	If it goes up and down, he gonna make da money
Apr 01 22:24:15 *	smickles is going to have to study statistics a bit further now
Apr 01 22:24:17 <tiberiusiv>	he only make money if vol is low
Apr 01 22:24:26 <tiberiusiv>	volatility
Apr 01 22:24:26 <Bugpowder_>	he wins the more often move in an out of a position
Apr 01 22:24:30 <Bugpowder_>	30% spread
Apr 01 22:24:48 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder 30% spread means not many will use his service.
Apr 01 22:24:54 <Bugpowder_>	couch
Apr 01 22:24:56 <Bugpowder_>	cough
Apr 01 22:25:06 <Bugpowder_>	$50 million last month in exposure
Apr 01 22:25:11 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder i for one believe hes a liar
Apr 01 22:25:19 <tiberiusiv>	considering it was only a few people trading the options
Apr 01 22:25:27 <tiberiusiv>	i really doubt he lost 27k btc.
Apr 01 22:25:38 <tiberiusiv>	or any of his own funds.
Apr 01 22:25:39 <Bugpowder_>	19k was principal loss
Apr 01 22:26:01 <tiberiusiv>	yea so he says, no bond holder can ever verifiy losses or gains
Apr 01 22:26:13 <tiberiusiv>	i DOUBT mircea lost even $1
Apr 01 22:26:18 <Bugpowder_>	its pretty obvious is you watch the trades
Apr 01 22:26:26 <tiberiusiv>	yea him making half of them
Apr 01 22:26:31 <tiberiusiv>	trading with himself
Apr 01 22:26:36 <Bugpowder_>	so which is it, is he going broke, or has not lost anything left
Apr 01 22:26:39 <Bugpowder_>	yet
Apr 01 22:26:50 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder hed already have gone broke
Apr 01 22:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Apr 01 22:27:02 <tiberiusiv>	actual volume is probably 1/100th of what he lies about
Apr 01 22:27:08 <tiberiusiv>	if not 1/1000th
Apr 01 22:27:18 <tiberiusiv>	all the big trades always occur when hes active in the chat
Apr 01 22:27:24 <tiberiusiv>	on days where hes gone, volume plummets
Apr 01 22:27:25 <Bugpowder_>	heh
Apr 01 22:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 not everybody lives in ridiculous slavepen.
Apr 01 22:27:41 <Bugpowder_>	I know personally about more than 1/100th of the volume
Apr 01 22:27:54 <tiberiusiv>	this way he gets to rob the bondholders
Apr 01 22:28:19 <tiberiusiv>	and look legit doing it
Apr 01 22:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Apr 01 22:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00201393 / 0.00201393 / 0.00201394 (15000 shares, 30.21 BTC), 7D: 0.00050015 / 0.00199592 / 0.002014 (25320 shares, 50.54 BTC), 30D: 0.00050015 / 0.00183401 / 0.00201401 (157420 shares, 288.71 BTC)
Apr 01 22:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i just realised you're a nominal millionaire.
Apr 01 22:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.40199999 BTC [+]
Apr 01 22:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42899998 BTC [+]
Apr 01 22:30:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.42899999 = 5.577 BTC [+]
Apr 01 22:30:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44499999 BTC [+]
Apr 01 22:30:29 <smickles>	funny, earlier today, i realized i could pay off my car loan
Apr 01 22:30:38 <tiberiusiv>	on a honda
Apr 01 22:30:44 <smickles>	chevy, actually
Apr 01 22:31:05 <smickles>	'08 trailblazr
Apr 01 22:31:19 <kakobrekla>	not bad.
Apr 01 22:31:41 <ChaangNoi>	nmc price oh lol
Apr 01 22:31:50 <ChaangNoi>	i just sold 90% of what i had
Apr 01 22:32:13 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Apr 01 22:32:35 <ChaangNoi>	i had some cuz maybe they could use it for something later, but i saw the jump and was like fuck it
Apr 01 22:32:42 <ChaangNoi>	then it crashed lol
Apr 01 22:33:02 <kakobrekla>	one day all this will go to shit
Apr 01 22:34:17 <kakobrekla>	ChaangNoi dump some nmc so we get some more no bets on the 0.02 before it breaks it
Apr 01 22:34:25 <kakobrekla>	would be fun
Apr 01 22:34:29 <Bugpowder_>	it might not break
Apr 01 22:35:11 <ChaangNoi>	kako nmc not ltc
Apr 01 22:35:15 <ChaangNoi>	you have a bet on that too?
Apr 01 22:35:18 <kakobrekla>	i mean ltc
Apr 01 22:35:20 <kakobrekla>	sorry
Apr 01 22:35:23 <kakobrekla>	fuckin alts
Apr 01 22:35:27 <kakobrekla>	messing with mah mind
Apr 01 22:35:35 <ChaangNoi>	i sold nmc cuz that spike lol
Apr 01 22:35:50 <kakobrekla>	ill just stfu and go back to wekr
Apr 01 22:36:20 <ChaangNoi>	:)
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Apr 01 22:39:21 <Bugpowder>	herro?
Apr 01 22:39:32 <Bugpowder>	I installed an IRC client!
Apr 01 22:39:41 <Bugpowder>	just so I can ignore tiberiusiv
Apr 01 22:39:53 <smickles>	lol, that's your reason?
Apr 01 22:39:57 <Bugpowder>	yep
Apr 01 22:40:11 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 01 22:40:20 <Bugpowder>	It has taken me a whole year
Apr 01 22:40:20 <smickles>	;;rate tiberiusiv 1 motivates people
Apr 01 22:40:21 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
Apr 01 22:40:30 <smickles>	sonofabitch
Apr 01 22:41:07 <Bugpowder>	d:)
Apr 01 22:41:13 <Bugpowder>	I have emoticons now
Apr 01 22:41:28 <dub>	No you don't
Apr 01 22:41:42 <Bugpowder>	yes I do they are so cool
Apr 01 22:42:12 *	dub prepares to /ignore Bugpowder 
Apr 01 22:42:16 <Bugpowder>	That last one has a hat
Apr 01 22:43:00 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 01 22:43:01 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 99.57
Apr 01 22:43:12 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox adding litecoin is more of a sign of desperation
Apr 01 22:43:22 <tiberiusiv>	theyve been losing market share for BTC like crazy
Apr 01 22:43:25 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 01 22:43:30 <gribble>	63993.8839795
Apr 01 22:43:41 <tiberiusiv>	68% USD trade down to 61% and that happend over a few weeks
Apr 01 22:43:50 <smickles>	Econ Pa, he economics at you
Apr 01 22:43:53 <smickles>	http://blog.smickles.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/04/Economics-At-You.png
Apr 01 22:44:03 <ThickAsThieves>	thats like 8 new TH in a week, no?
Apr 01 22:44:19 <dub>	hrm
Apr 01 22:44:38 <dub>	it was at 58, then dropped to 51 for a few days, been climbing since
Apr 01 22:44:57 <ThickAsThieves>	where does it all come from?
Apr 01 22:44:59 <dub>	and its 3d avg
Apr 01 22:45:01 <smickles>	;;bids 0
Apr 01 22:45:01 <gribble>	There are currently 35146688 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10247783.7207 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.9890 seconds
Apr 01 22:45:07 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Apr 01 22:45:10 <mpexbot>	smickles: 1010 unconfirmed transactions. Oldest dated: 2013-03-31 01:54:01
Apr 01 22:45:22 <Bugpowder>	it hit 80000 on sipa
Apr 01 22:45:28 <ThickAsThieves>	even known AM, Avalon and GPUs can't account for that much can it?
Apr 01 22:45:48 <ChaangNoi>	i suspect bfl to be "testing"
Apr 01 22:45:57 <ThickAsThieves>	and avalon
Apr 01 22:45:58 <ThickAsThieves>	and AM
Apr 01 22:46:23 <ThickAsThieves>	all, yknow just hashin a lil
Apr 01 22:46:48 <tiberiusiv>	changnoi: lol
Apr 01 22:47:31 <bgupta>	Err… bitcoin at 104+ interesting.
Apr 01 22:47:41 <Bugpowder>	yawn
Apr 01 22:47:42 <dub>	dude BFL shipped already
Apr 01 22:47:47 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 01 22:47:48 <dub>	get with teh times
Apr 01 22:47:53 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 01 22:47:53 <gribble>	There are currently 35147078 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10258338.809 USD in total. | Data vintage: 24.8391 seconds
Apr 01 22:47:57 <Bugpowder>	heyo
Apr 01 22:48:12 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah they shipped a cellphone pic of the unit Luke was remoting into
Apr 01 22:48:13 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 120
Apr 01 22:48:13 <gribble>	There are currently 14814.273 bitcoins offered at or under 120.0 USD, worth 1632425.24456 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.1614 seconds
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Apr 01 22:48:31 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 01 22:48:48 <bgupta>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/timothylee/2013/04/01/bitcoin-is-a-bad-currency-but-it-might-be-a-good-platform-for-financial-innovation/
Apr 01 22:48:57 <Bugpowder>	I think we have a 50% chance of hitting 200 this month
Apr 01 22:49:08 <dub>	hao about $2
Apr 01 22:49:09 <ThickAsThieves>	its bad cuz i dont own any so make a new one taht i can?
Apr 01 22:49:18 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug, I agree
Apr 01 22:49:27 <ThickAsThieves>	I think $150 easy
Apr 01 22:49:53 <Bugpowder>	the demand is just insane
Apr 01 22:50:00 <Bugpowder>	not insane
Apr 01 22:50:04 <Bugpowder>	strong
Apr 01 22:50:52 <ThickAsThieves>	:asks 10000
Apr 01 22:50:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 10000
Apr 01 22:50:58 <gribble>	There are currently 39501.232 bitcoins offered at or under 10000.0 USD, worth 13402145.1671 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.2896 seconds
Apr 01 22:51:33 <ThickAsThieves>	only 39501 bitcoins left til bitcoin singularity
Apr 01 22:51:58 <bgupta>	I like the jist of the forbes article.. Bitcoin is bad "currency" but a great enabler of innovation in the finance space. (They didn't say it, but it's akin to the innovation to publishing that the internet brought.. e.g. self publishing, decentralization, room for new leaders and business models, etc.)
Apr 01 22:52:10 <bgupta>	singularity?
Apr 01 22:52:16 <bgupta>	ahh
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Apr 01 22:52:52 <bgupta>	Realistially I'm sure sellers would come out of the woodwork if btc started making a race for 10k
Apr 01 22:53:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 500
Apr 01 22:53:10 <gribble>	There are currently 36910.854 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 6594850.84906 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0058 seconds
Apr 01 22:53:21 <ThickAsThieves>	cheap!
Apr 01 22:53:28 <abracadabra>	realistically and 10k
Apr 01 22:53:37 <abracadabra>	in the same sentence
Apr 01 22:53:40 <abracadabra>	interesting
Apr 01 22:53:43 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 01 22:53:49 <ThickAsThieves>	theoritically?
Apr 01 22:53:59 <abracadabra>	*shrug*
Apr 01 22:54:04 <smickles>	btc at 10k, i'll have some purchases to make
Apr 01 22:54:19 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah this room would be empty
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Apr 01 22:54:27 <ThickAsThieves>	or filled with litecoin moguls
Apr 01 22:54:38 <bgupta>	hell even though I'm a big fan, I could lighten my position by a asmall amount and have the proceeds have a serious impat on my life.
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Apr 01 22:56:36 <Diablo-D3>	so I think today is lets make fun of Luke-Jr
Apr 01 22:56:49 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr refuses to get his BitFunder account so he can get DMC dividends.
Apr 01 22:56:50 <Bugpowder>	I will sell another chunk at 190
Apr 01 22:56:53 *	Luke-Jr gets Diablo-D3 a scammer tag
Apr 01 22:57:04 *	Diablo-D3 bans Luke-Jr from the forum.
Apr 01 22:57:10 <Diablo-D3>	That worked quite well.
Apr 01 22:57:30 <Luke-Jr>	I should post a scammer tag request for Diablo-D3 just for the lulz
Apr 01 22:57:47 <Diablo-D3>	nefario tried that once
Apr 01 22:57:53 <Diablo-D3>	karma hit him like a truck
Apr 01 22:57:53 <Luke-Jr>	Ukto: it's your fault Diablo-D3 is a scammer btw
Apr 01 22:58:16 <dub>	the funny here is that Luke-Jr invested in DMC
Apr 01 22:58:33 <Luke-Jr>	dub: exactly
Apr 01 22:58:40 <Luke-Jr>	dub: Diablo-D3 refuses to give me my dividends
Apr 01 22:58:47 <Diablo-D3>	the funny here is he wont fix his account because HIS DIVIDENDS ARE IN HIS ACCOUNT
Apr 01 22:59:06 <Diablo-D3>	I have zero access to other customer's accounts because, you know, that'd be illegal.
Apr 01 22:59:19 <Ukto>	0,0
Apr 01 22:59:20 <Ukto>	what ?
Apr 01 22:59:30 <Diablo-D3>	that'd be like luke calling up Apple because he wants his dividends instead of calling up Vangard
Apr 01 22:59:35 <Luke-Jr>	Ukto: Diablo-D3 is blaming you for his not paying my dividends
Apr 01 22:59:50 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: no, Im blaming Luke-Jr for not talking to you to get his account fixed
Apr 01 22:59:52 <Ukto>	everyone blames me for everything
Apr 01 22:59:57 <Ukto>	I will accept your love.
Apr 01 22:59:58 <Ukto>	:P
Apr 01 23:00:04 *	Diablo-D3 tenderly loves Ukto 
Apr 01 23:00:07 <Luke-Jr>	I don't want to use BitFunder, I just want my dividends.
Apr 01 23:00:07 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 100
Apr 01 23:00:10 <gribble>	There are currently 6961.6516 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 708089.196113 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0043 seconds
Apr 01 23:00:18 <Luke-Jr>	my relationship with DMC was via GLBSE
Apr 01 23:00:19 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 50000
Apr 01 23:00:19 <gribble>	A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 4580113.0445 USD and would take the last price down to 80.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 91.6023 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 9.8758 seconds
Apr 01 23:00:20 <Luke-Jr>	not BitFunder
Apr 01 23:00:24 <Ukto>	Luke-Jr: I'm sorry.
Apr 01 23:00:32 <Ukto>	I can't do anything to countermand that.
Apr 01 23:00:55 <Luke-Jr>	so it's Diablo-D3's fault, as I suspected
Apr 01 23:00:58 <Luke-Jr>	SCAMMER TAG TIME
Apr 01 23:01:05 <toffoo>	Luke-Jr: I have DMC in my BitFunder accnt .. if we can figure out some way to xfer your DMC shares into mine I'd be happy to pass along a %age of your divs
Apr 01 23:01:16 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: he cant log into his account
Apr 01 23:01:22 <ThickAsThieves>	You can pay me to get it out of BitFunder for you
Apr 01 23:01:23 <Luke-Jr>	toffoo: the reason I'm not using BitFunder is that it doesn't work
Apr 01 23:01:23 <Diablo-D3>	toffoo: he'd need to log in first
Apr 01 23:01:26 <Ukto>	BitFunder currentl has no method to pay dividends to non-user accounts
Apr 01 23:01:27 <tiberiusiv>	Luke-Jr: hi liar
Apr 01 23:01:35 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: at no point did you hold shares directly with DMC
Apr 01 23:01:35 <Luke-Jr>	tiberiusiv: bye troll
Apr 01 23:01:36 <Ukto>	Luke-Jr: are you having login issues?
Apr 01 23:01:42 <Ukto>	or just dont wanna sign up
Apr 01 23:01:45 <Diablo-D3>	if you had, I'd e paying you shares directly
Apr 01 23:01:49 <Diablo-D3>	I do not offer such a service.
Apr 01 23:01:53 <Luke-Jr>	Ukto: I signed up, and tried to claim my GLBSE crap, and it didn't work
Apr 01 23:02:02 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: and you didnt even email tech support
Apr 01 23:02:03 <tiberiusiv>	Luke new lies to tell?
Apr 01 23:02:06 <Diablo-D3>	this is why everyone laughs at you
Apr 01 23:02:11 <Ukto>	Luke-Jr: Then let me help you :)
Apr 01 23:02:13 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: nonsense, I bought my shares before they were on GLBSE even!
Apr 01 23:02:31 <bgupta>	I'm sure Ukto can sort out Luke-Jr.. (Can you guys please take it offline though.)
Apr 01 23:02:50 <dub>	tiberiusiv: man, I kinda like your trolling style but Luke-Jr is the ubertroll, you should give up at this point
Apr 01 23:02:54 <Luke-Jr>	besides, I'm busy killing litecoin atm
Apr 01 23:03:09 <tiberiusiv>	lol dub
Apr 01 23:03:10 <Ukto>	Luke-Jr: gonna have to fight tux on that one. he's trying to make it bigger :P
Apr 01 23:03:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.189 BTC [+]
Apr 01 23:03:17 <toffoo>	doesn't look like that's been too successful today
Apr 01 23:03:20 <Ukto>	Luke-Jr: When you clicked on the claim link in bitfunder, did it already show a DMC share pending? or is your email address on BitFunder different than GLBSE?
Apr 01 23:03:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 7 @ 0.1895 = 1.3265 BTC [+]
Apr 01 23:03:27 <kakobrekla>	Luke-Jr and how you gonna kill litecoin?
Apr 01 23:03:27 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: you had the loan repaid in shares, nothing more, nothing less
Apr 01 23:03:37 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: FPGAs
Apr 01 23:03:46 <dub>	tiberiusiv: srsly, nothing we can say to Luke-Jr  is more fucked up than the shit floating around in his head
Apr 01 23:03:50 <Luke-Jr>	Ukto: I forget, it was months ago
Apr 01 23:03:53 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: I have not looked, does he have a pending claim on the system?
Apr 01 23:03:55 <kakobrekla>	Luke-Jr FPGAs ?
Apr 01 23:04:07 <Luke-Jr>	Ukto: Tux is *why* I'm bothering to kill litecoin
Apr 01 23:04:08 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: I presume so, but obviously I cant go look
Apr 01 23:04:08 <Luke-Jr>	now
Apr 01 23:04:15 <toffoo>	maybe that would kill GPU/CPU miners, but not litecoin
Apr 01 23:04:27 <kakobrekla>	is that litecoin on gox even conifrmed?
Apr 01 23:04:27 <Luke-Jr>	toffoo: I just shut off transactions once I have 99%
Apr 01 23:04:30 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: he, in the past, has held DMC shares
Apr 01 23:04:39 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: I do not know if he currently does
Apr 01 23:05:00 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: yes, shares from DMC.
Apr 01 23:05:08 <Ukto>	I see the issue I think
Apr 01 23:05:15 <Ukto>	Luke-Jr: pm?  :)
Apr 01 23:05:27 <thestringpuller>	omg bitbet is about to pay off
Apr 01 23:05:43 <smickles>	i want an ERB Luke-Jr vs tiberiusiv
Apr 01 23:05:46 <Luke-Jr>	Ukto: sure
Apr 01 23:05:47 <Ukto>	thestringpuller: here, lemme throw 10btc in real quick to no
Apr 01 23:05:48 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: and you're asking me after the third dividend payment sent to DMC shareholders as well
Apr 01 23:05:50 <Luke-Jr>	but I'm busy as heck
Apr 01 23:06:00 <Diablo-D3>	smickles: catholic style vs dirty negro style?
Apr 01 23:06:00 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: YOU SCAMMED ME OUT OF 2 BEFORE THIS⁈/
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Apr 01 23:06:10 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: SUBSCRIBE TO THE FUCKING THREAD
Apr 01 23:06:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.01 = 0.09 BTC [+]
Apr 01 23:07:02 <tiberiusiv>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161306.0
Apr 01 23:07:04 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 01 23:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	lmao finally. Bugpowder now you can log chats!
Apr 01 23:07:57 <benkay>	the chats weren't logged?
Apr 01 23:08:40 <Bugpowder>	they are logged by others, but not me
Apr 01 23:08:48 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta orly , forbes knows =shiot now.
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Apr 01 23:09:19 <dub>	Diablo-D3: what were the divs btw? I guess if we hit $5k I might need to claim my 1 DMC
Apr 01 23:09:43 <dub>	(that I bought for 1 satoshi)
Apr 01 23:09:59 <mircea_popescu>	<dub> the funny here is that Luke-Jr invested in DMC <<<
Apr 01 23:10:26 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164550 heh.
Apr 01 23:10:48 <Diablo-D3>	dub: this month was ~55 over 10k shares
Apr 01 23:10:55 <dub>	well the funny in that is that my bid at 0.00000001 filled
Apr 01 23:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00398998 = 0.012 BTC [+]
Apr 01 23:11:13 <Diablo-D3>	didnt that get filled on like the last day of glbse or something?
Apr 01 23:11:26 <dub>	don't think so
Apr 01 23:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	this lukejr talk about killing is worrisome
Apr 01 23:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	he's certainly the one bitcoiner most likely to go shoot up a school or some shit
Apr 01 23:12:23 <BitHub>	lulz
Apr 01 23:12:27 <Bugpowder>	he has that look
Apr 01 23:12:29 <dub>	to fully disclose I held a great many more DMC shares for short periods as I assisted in destroying their value
Apr 01 23:12:48 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 01 23:12:50 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 99.80
Apr 01 23:12:52 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Interestingly the author is long btc.. anyway, the point is you don't need to accept that btc has the characteristics that make a currency useful, to see that it is useful. It seems to trade like a hybrid between some collectible, a currency, and a early stage startup's equity.
Apr 01 23:13:00 <BitHub>	so bfl giving a asic to jr, bad pr?
Apr 01 23:13:08 <ThickAsThieves>	no pr
Apr 01 23:13:16 <Diablo-D3>	if BFL was truly legitimate
Apr 01 23:13:23 <Diablo-D3>	they'd send me a minrig.
Apr 01 23:13:25 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: As long as the price remains so unstable it's going to be challenged as a day to day currency.
Apr 01 23:13:28 <tiberiusiv>	BFL was put together in the last 50 days
Apr 01 23:13:36 <tiberiusiv>	they just rented out all the space in january
Apr 01 23:13:37 <Diablo-D3>	thats the only way to prove their legitimate at this point
Apr 01 23:13:49 <ThickAsThieves>	it's a stable diagonal line, thats the best kind right?
Apr 01 23:13:59 <BitHub>	are bfl still on that world tour 3 month boat cruise thing?
Apr 01 23:14:05 <bgupta>	Diablo-D3: To send YOU a rig?
Apr 01 23:14:06 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 01 23:14:14 <Diablo-D3>	bgupta: yup.
Apr 01 23:14:21 <BitHub>	"discovering themselves"
Apr 01 23:14:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 8 @ 0.00195 = 0.0156 BTC [-]
Apr 01 23:14:39 <mircea_popescu>	so basically because the usd is an inflationary piece of shit
Apr 01 23:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	and ciompletely out of control
Apr 01 23:14:46 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: i dont think scammer mircea really cares about BTC as a currency, as long as he can utilize it to rob people hes fine
Apr 01 23:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is "a bad currency"
Apr 01 23:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	what nuttery is this ?
Apr 01 23:15:02 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I agree with their assesment
Apr 01 23:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4359999 = 1.744 BTC [-]
Apr 01 23:15:16 <Diablo-D3>	if you use USD as the golden standard, Bitcoin is the worst possible currency you could create
Apr 01 23:15:22 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 01 23:15:29 <Diablo-D3>	I mean, thats one hell of a backhanded complement
Apr 01 23:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	also if you use diarhea as a standard
Apr 01 23:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	jasmine tea is like the worst.
Apr 01 23:15:55 <Diablo-D3>	well, to be fair
Apr 01 23:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30 @ 0.00060272 = 0.0181 BTC [-]
Apr 01 23:16:06 <Diablo-D3>	if you have actual diarehea, gatoraid would be your best bet
Apr 01 23:16:10 <ThickAsThieves>	if "=PriceMPEX("O.BTCUSD.C310T","S")" used to pull the old options into a spreadsheet, what would I have to change it to for new options?
Apr 01 23:16:32 <smickles>	O.USD.C031T
Apr 01 23:16:36 <smickles>	if there is a 31
Apr 01 23:16:39 <Diablo-D3>	stopping the diarehea isnt a good idea unless they simply cant get fluids back into you fast enough
Apr 01 23:16:46 <Namworld>	That's one of my functions =/
Apr 01 23:16:56 <Namworld>	and I updated my spreadsheet by the way
Apr 01 23:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	 "=PriceMPEX("O.USD.C031T","S")"
Apr 01 23:17:22 <ThickAsThieves>	No such option
Apr 01 23:17:41 <ThickAsThieves>	oh you did
Apr 01 23:17:44 <smickles>	032
Apr 01 23:17:48 <ThickAsThieves>	link pretty plz
Apr 01 23:17:55 <smickles>	31s got turned into 32s
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Apr 01 23:18:01 <ThickAsThieves>	thx smickles
Apr 01 23:18:16 <Namworld>	=PriceMPEX("O.BTCUSD.C310T","S")
Apr 01 23:18:32 <smickles>	(or 29, depending on which way was better for you)
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Apr 01 23:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.436 BTC [+]
Apr 01 23:19:16 <Bugpowder>	10.3M bids
Apr 01 23:19:31 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 0
Apr 01 23:19:31 <gribble>	There are currently 35147801 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10305059.9642 USD in total. | Data vintage: 24.6499 seconds
Apr 01 23:19:35 <thestringpuller>	word
Apr 01 23:19:43 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Apr 01 23:19:46 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229233 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 590 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7678465.63048 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.6754
Apr 01 23:22:48 <bgupta>	micea_popescu: what is the purpose of a currency? My understanding is that it is to facilitate day to day commerce. Buying eggs and bread and shit, so people don't have to barter. For this purpose, it sucks. Remember the volitility is not just in one direction..
Apr 01 23:22:56 <smickles>	omg, i love finding math wich is over my head, but seems within my grasp :D   *squee#
Apr 01 23:23:36 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: ^^ typo.. anyway, that's not to say it can't grow into a good currency
Apr 01 23:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta i think you're confusing yourself.
Apr 01 23:24:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 30 @ 0.23623945 = 7.0872 BTC [+]
Apr 01 23:24:30 <mircea_popescu>	eggs and bread are not the test case of currency.
Apr 01 23:24:45 <mircea_popescu>	this is like saying "what is the purpose of a car! to drive on new jersey turnpike!"
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Apr 01 23:24:53 <thestringpuller>	$oix
Apr 01 23:24:58 <Bugpowder>	taxes are the purpose of a currency
Apr 01 23:25:04 <thestringpuller>	!ticker ^ OIX
Apr 01 23:25:05 <assbot>	Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
Apr 01 23:25:10 <Bugpowder>	luckily we have egovpay
Apr 01 23:25:16 <smickles>	$vwap ^
Apr 01 23:25:17 <mpexbot>	smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 100.51048048 high: 132.19074012 low: 86.04499804 volume: 9190 btc: 4514.05164472 30 day: no data
Apr 01 23:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	i mean saying its purpose is to measure commerce / act as medium of exchange etc is one thing
Apr 01 23:25:35 <mircea_popescu>	but then to reduce that to such a narrow use seems fallacious.
Apr 01 23:25:43 <ThickAsThieves>	What Currency is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2wDz3mJTlE  props to Ukto for the link
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Apr 01 23:26:10 <ThickAsThieves>	the kid is actually calm in that video, but he has some wild ones
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Apr 01 23:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	now all that aside : currenlt bitcoin is not workable as a token to buy eggs because a large number of idiots mistakenly refuse to recognise its value.
Apr 01 23:26:52 <BitHub>	oh jesus, kill it, KILL IT
Apr 01 23:27:08 <mircea_popescu>	that'll resolve itself soon enough, and then there's the rest of eternity to bitcoin back and forth
Apr 01 23:27:32 <BitHub>	looks like that chick from larry david, Wanda
Apr 01 23:29:17 <Ukto>	lol
Apr 01 23:29:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00378605 = 9.4651 BTC [-]
Apr 01 23:30:05 <benkay>	different currencies may be better suited to different things
Apr 01 23:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	this certainly.
Apr 01 23:30:23 <smickles>	my volatility sense is tingling
Apr 01 23:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 01 23:30:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 104.80000, Best ask: 105.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 105.00000, 24 hour volume: 91538.99833040, 24 hour low: 92.65000, 24 hour high: 106.00000, 24 hour vwap: 100.80654
Apr 01 23:30:48 <smickles>	;;goxlag
Apr 01 23:30:49 <gribble>	4.659735 seconds
Apr 01 23:32:06 <benkay>	man
Apr 01 23:32:11 <smickles>	hmm, decent # of asks dropping
Apr 01 23:32:12 <benkay>	these chats are logged
Apr 01 23:32:16 <benkay>	i can't say anything
Apr 01 23:32:19 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: it seems bitcoin is redistributing wealth
Apr 01 23:32:41 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 100
Apr 01 23:32:43 <gribble>	There are currently 7136.2212 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 726982.251473 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0042 seconds
Apr 01 23:32:48 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 90
Apr 01 23:32:48 <gribble>	There are currently 35564.567 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 3370512.9669 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.4431 seconds
Apr 01 23:33:00 <smickles>	;;goxlag
Apr 01 23:33:00 <gribble>	0 seconds
Apr 01 23:33:06 <smickles>	:o
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Apr 01 23:35:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 110
Apr 01 23:35:14 <gribble>	There are currently 9755.8082 bitcoins offered at or under 110.0 USD, worth 1053292.16897 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0117 seconds
Apr 01 23:35:23 <Bugpowder>	yawn
Apr 01 23:35:25 <Bugpowder>	good night
Apr 01 23:35:26 <ThickAsThieves>	see you tomorrow 110
Apr 01 23:35:28 <Bugpowder>	see you at 110
Apr 01 23:35:51 <Bugpowder>	7 hours from now
Apr 01 23:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> taxes are the purpose of a currency <<< actually if we go by historicval recorxd
Apr 01 23:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	it's paying for the military.
Apr 01 23:36:25 <mircea_popescu>	at least that's how soldiers got to be called soldiers in the first placer.
Apr 01 23:36:28 <Bugpowder>	well thats what taxes are for
Apr 01 23:36:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3420 @ 0.00060272 = 2.0613 BTC [-]
Apr 01 23:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15280 @ 0.00061282 = 9.3639 BTC [+]
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Apr 01 23:37:08 <mircea_popescu>	basically.
Apr 01 23:37:45 <toffoo>	you're right "ORIGIN Middle English: from Old French soldier, from soulde ‘(soldier's) pay,’ from Latin solidus (see solidus). The verb dates from the early 17th cent."
Apr 01 23:37:52 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Ok let's flip this around. What is your definition of a "good currency"?
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Apr 01 23:38:25 <Bugpowder>	The word soldier entered modern English in the 14th century from the equivalent Middle English word soudeour, from Anglo-French soudeer or soudeour, meaning mercenary, from soudee, meaning shilling's worth or wage, from sou or soud, shilling.
Apr 01 23:38:27 <benkay>	militaries may not be as well funded in the future as the united states is today.
Apr 01 23:38:38 <Bugpowder>	the roman gold coin was the solidus
Apr 01 23:38:40 <benkay>	states'
Apr 01 23:39:02 <Bugpowder>	from which sou was eventually derived
Apr 01 23:39:26 <Bugpowder>	nice study in inflation, the history of the solidus
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Apr 01 23:40:00 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta you seen the too much money article ?
Apr 01 23:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell bugpowder exactly.
Apr 01 23:40:26 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 01 23:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo what you thought i was making shit up ?
Apr 01 23:40:52 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Prolly not.. link?
Apr 01 23:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/
Apr 01 23:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	(also links to a good other article)
Apr 01 23:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	once you've read that my definition will make more sense. it is "a good currency is one that doesn't introduce friction for capital allocation"
Apr 01 23:42:15 <mircea_popescu>	just like a good baseball bat is one that doesn't lower the batter's average.
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Apr 01 23:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	or golf club or we
Apr 01 23:42:41 <benkay>	huh
Apr 01 23:42:44 <benkay>	interesting paradigm
Apr 01 23:42:56 <benkay>	you can think about money friction as bleeding money off the wealthy into the rest of the population
Apr 01 23:43:08 <benkay>	and sort of model it like an entropic thing
Apr 01 23:43:33 <thestringpuller>	Where did Bugpowder go?
Apr 01 23:43:36 <benkay>	or an ecosystem if you like thinking that way
Apr 01 23:43:40 <thestringpuller>	Why do you always scare off Bugpowder mircea_popescu
Apr 01 23:43:49 <benkay>	it's an unhealthy ecosystem that only has apex predators
Apr 01 23:43:58 <thestringpuller>	i keep it icyhot these niggas benkay
Apr 01 23:44:04 <benkay>	s/unhealthy/unstable
Apr 01 23:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	benkay nah. friction is bleeding money off productive uses into the toilet.
Apr 01 23:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	to the detriment of all, and especially the poor.
Apr 01 23:44:36 <thestringpuller>	the poor support
Apr 01 23:44:40 <benkay>	poor? what's a poor
Apr 01 23:44:50 <benkay>	what's poor even mean in ecosystem dynamics?
Apr 01 23:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	the poor is any one individual that does not own enough real property or capital to produce one average wage out of its use alone.
Apr 01 23:45:20 <mircea_popescu>	if you make 50k a year in rents and interests you're not poor.
Apr 01 23:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e average is these days.
Apr 01 23:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	11ty billion.
Apr 01 23:45:46 <benkay>	is skilled labor poor in this paradigm?
Apr 01 23:45:55 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 01 23:46:08 <thestringpuller>	yay tiberiusiv
Apr 01 23:46:08 <benkay>	mircea_popescu?
Apr 01 23:46:14 <thestringpuller>	they greatest troll eva
Apr 01 23:46:21 <mircea_popescu>	benkay yes.
Apr 01 23:46:28 <bgupta>	well you can't have "rich" without "poor" laboring for their wages
Apr 01 23:46:36 <mircea_popescu>	who is proposing such a thing ?
Apr 01 23:46:39 <benkay>	interesting. because they don't have to work for their income?
Apr 01 23:46:48 <benkay>	derp i mean that backwards
Apr 01 23:46:52 <thestringpuller>	everyone has to work for their income
Apr 01 23:46:59 <tiberiusiv>	if you have to rent yourself out for a wage you are poor
Apr 01 23:47:10 <benkay>	don't be a pedant, puppeteer.
Apr 01 23:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	benkay no. because if shit hits the fan they're sol.
Apr 01 23:47:55 <benkay>	I prefer to sell hours than rent myself.
Apr 01 23:48:02 <benkay>	but that's neither here nor there.
Apr 01 23:48:11 <mircea_popescu>	so if you're abny good at it eventually you should accumulate enough wealth to not be poor.
Apr 01 23:48:27 <benkay>	i get it.
Apr 01 23:48:31 <mircea_popescu>	of course the socialistoid governments of the uncivilised world would very much prefer a population of poor only.
Apr 01 23:48:46 <mircea_popescu>	which is why all the anti-getting ahead stuff.
Apr 01 23:49:15 <benkay>	what is this anti-getting ahead stuff of which you speak?
Apr 01 23:49:21 <benkay>	american pop culture is all about the hustle.
Apr 01 23:49:25 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: but that's only the case if you pass wealth down throughout generations
Apr 01 23:49:35 <mircea_popescu>	benkay have you considered how taxation works in the us for instance ?
Apr 01 23:49:37 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you can't become wealthy in one lifetime
Apr 01 23:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	the only thingthat's not ok is to get out of the poor into the rich. everytjhing else is fine,
Apr 01 23:49:52 <benkay>	i'm listening.
Apr 01 23:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	but if you get even close to that barrier it's like superficial tension in a water dropplet al oof a sudden
Apr 01 23:50:15 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller sure you can.
Apr 01 23:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	but certainly the passing down would be one way to do it, and that's why inheritance is taxed to fuck.
Apr 01 23:50:47 <thestringpuller>	give gifts before you die
Apr 01 23:50:50 <thestringpuller>	and trusts
Apr 01 23:50:53 <mircea_popescu>	one excellent case study of how bitcoin is irretrievably destroying the socialist paradigm.
Apr 01 23:50:59 <thestringpuller>	there are easier ways around death taxes than death itself
Apr 01 23:51:01 <benkay>	mind = blown
Apr 01 23:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	bye bye inheritance tax means the system's lifetime is already capped to about 3 generations.
Apr 01 23:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	but it will kill welfarism much sooner than that.
Apr 01 23:51:31 <dub>	yeah ex had trust fund via gifting
Apr 01 23:51:52 <dub>	had to forgive $30k/year of debt oslt
Apr 01 23:52:03 <benkay>	interesting. i don't know that i buy the numbers behind that argument, but it's interesting.
Apr 01 23:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	benkay numbers intended for exemplification purposes only.
Apr 01 23:52:33 <benkay>	i understand
Apr 01 23:52:50 <benkay>	i'm intrigued, sir
Apr 01 23:52:59 <benkay>	i'll be running this through the wringer over the coming week
Apr 01 23:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	another good angle is this :
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Apr 01 23:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	people like buffett, who already made it, come up with "we're not taxed enough" sort of statements.
Apr 01 23:53:26 <benkay>	my tiny brain's already leaking, bro
Apr 01 23:53:27 <benkay>	chill out
Apr 01 23:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	the fact is that a. he's only not being taxed because he isn't paying himself a salary (because he doesn't need to)
Apr 01 23:53:32 <benkay>	but no i love it
Apr 01 23:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	and b. his only purpose is to fuck up anyone threatening to join his club.
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Apr 01 23:54:12 <benkay>	how do those statements accomplish the above, mircea_popescu?
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Apr 01 23:54:38 <mircea_popescu>	very abridgedly : if you have a bn dollars you pay about 3-5% in tax, or w/e you want.
Apr 01 23:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	in other places you need even less.
Apr 01 23:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	then politics works as an attempt by the billionaire to use the mob[ile vulgus] as a sort of scarecrow to keep the middle class threading water.
Apr 01 23:55:48 <benkay>	how does the system where you don't have socialism work when you have so many poor, though?
Apr 01 23:55:48 <mircea_popescu>	"more taxes" won't touch buffet any more than the current taxes do. however, it WILL make whatever business less profitable, and thus less able to produce "nouveau riches"
Apr 01 23:55:58 <benkay>	i get it i get it
Apr 01 23:56:06 <bgupta>	wait, you are arguing that fundamentally (assuming one believes that governments need revenue to provid basic services) that there is a reason that the poor should be taxed a higher percentage of their income than the rich? (Basically Buffett's arguement is that current tax system is regressive and that he was being taxed less than his secretary)
Apr 01 23:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	his argument is disingenous
Apr 01 23:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	he's paying himself less than his secretary.
Apr 01 23:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	basically he's saying "hehehe, i can shelter from tax, therefore you should tax those who can't do it more"
Apr 01 23:56:56 <bgupta>	well what does it matter if his pay comes from investment income or salary?
Apr 01 23:57:02 <BitHub>	tax system should just copy kickstarter style of doing it
Apr 01 23:57:18 <bgupta>	voluntary payment?
Apr 01 23:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	absolutely.
Apr 01 23:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	and bitcoin will force that, i'm pretty sure.
Apr 01 23:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	old greek way of doing things.
Apr 01 23:57:59 <BitHub>	would be cool
Apr 01 23:58:05 <BitHub>	i'd actually be looking foward to paying taxes
Apr 01 23:58:13 <BitHub>	putting my money to good use and tracking the progress of it
Apr 01 23:58:22 <benkay>	so. how do handle mob in post forced tax environment?
Apr 01 23:58:33 <bgupta>	why would anyone choice to be the one sucker who is paying taxes. What is the incentive?
Apr 01 23:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	benkay they learn to serve or to starve, i guess.
Apr 01 23:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta that is the problem of the people getting paid. klet them explain it.
Apr 01 23:58:58 <benkay>	bgupta: you pay the police to keep the rabble off of your lawn
Apr 01 23:59:08 <bgupta>	s/choice/choose/
Apr 01 23:59:16 <mircea_popescu>	why would anyone be the sucker paying for restaurant meals ?
Apr 01 23:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	dunno, apparently some people.
Apr 01 23:59:31 <bgupta>	but individuals would just hope that everyone else pays… it would quickly break down
Apr 01 23:59:38 <mircea_popescu>	if you propose paying for no service however, that ain't happening and is going away.
Apr 01 23:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta i would absolutely not pay a cent for the tsa say
Apr 02 00:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	so within a few weeks tsa would break down and go away/
Apr 02 00:00:02 <mircea_popescu>	wunderbar,.
Apr 02 00:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	perfect example of marketplace curtailing political idiocy.
Apr 02 00:00:41 <tiberiusiv>	whats wrong with restaurants mircea?
Apr 02 00:00:44 <benkay>	what about fire department problem?
Apr 02 00:00:51 <tiberiusiv>	just because romania only serves spoiled rat
Apr 02 00:01:01 <dub>	its cured rat
Apr 02 00:01:03 <tiberiusiv>	benkay oh dont even go into that lame arguement
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Apr 02 00:01:18 <benkay>	hey man, flame off. just counter it calmly.
Apr 02 00:01:24 <tiberiusiv>	benkay: in the USSR the people would always say well if the commies dont build us cars then who will?
Apr 02 00:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	benkay what'd that problem be ?
Apr 02 00:01:51 <benkay>	tiberiusiv i don't understand the analogy
Apr 02 00:02:13 <tiberiusiv>	well you saying well if the government isnt around whose going to provide us a fire department.
Apr 02 00:02:20 <tiberiusiv>	well USSR is gone and theres more cars in russia then ever.
Apr 02 00:02:28 <tiberiusiv>	the FREE MARKET will provide you with a host of services
Apr 02 00:02:34 <tiberiusiv>	including protections against fire.
Apr 02 00:03:02 <tiberiusiv>	insurance companies, cooperatives, citizen groups, corporations
Apr 02 00:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. if greek remaining bits are any indication, political debate would move to include a large chunk of "let me tell you how much i've donated"
Apr 02 00:03:05 <benkay>	right and we let the poor parts of the city burn
Apr 02 00:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	which'd be nice to see.
Apr 02 00:03:10 <benkay>	which is fine most of the time
Apr 02 00:03:24 <tiberiusiv>	benkay they look bombed out as it is?
Apr 02 00:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	they burn, they get redeveloped into houses for rich people, the poor get to live in as servants
Apr 02 00:03:32 <tiberiusiv>	have you been to the poor parts of US cities?
Apr 02 00:03:38 <benkay>	except for those times when all of chicago burns down
Apr 02 00:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	this idea that we're all equal and so forth is pernicious.
Apr 02 00:03:48 <bgupta>	If all of a sudden income tax was optional.. the central gov't would have NO revenue., and services would revert to neighborhood vigilante services.. think "paying the mob for protection".. I can't see this happening…
Apr 02 00:03:50 <tiberiusiv>	poor living as servants is better then poor living with poor
Apr 02 00:04:07 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: paying the mob is cheaper then paying the government
Apr 02 00:04:10 <tiberiusiv>	as ironic as it sounds
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Apr 02 00:04:23 <tiberiusiv>	the mob in italy for example takes 5% pisa/tax on business
Apr 02 00:04:25 <benkay>	dunno about that
Apr 02 00:04:29 <tiberiusiv>	and in return you get efficient dispute resolution service
Apr 02 00:04:34 <tiberiusiv>	the government takes 50% in comparison
Apr 02 00:04:35 <benkay>	police states are pretty cheap for those at the top relative to the rents extracted
Apr 02 00:04:37 <tiberiusiv>	and you get nothing.
Apr 02 00:04:43 <tiberiusiv>	benkay go research it
Apr 02 00:04:47 <benkay>	send me links
Apr 02 00:04:48 <tiberiusiv>	the MOB tax is a few % points
Apr 02 00:04:49 <benkay>	benkay@gmail.com
Apr 02 00:04:53 <tiberiusiv>	research yourself.
Apr 02 00:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta i can, it'd be better than current bs.
Apr 02 00:04:56 <tiberiusiv>	google is free
Apr 02 00:05:03 <bgupta>	You're basically proposing anarcocapilast society.
Apr 02 00:05:04 <benkay>	i don't know where to even start man.
Apr 02 00:05:04 <tiberiusiv>	go read up on mob rackets
Apr 02 00:05:08 <mircea_popescu>	"all politics is local politics" and all that.
Apr 02 00:05:10 <tiberiusiv>	they skim 2-3% of proceeds
Apr 02 00:05:12 <benkay>	but it's drinking time.
Apr 02 00:05:15 <tiberiusiv>	how is that worse then 50% taxes?
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Apr 02 00:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	there's currently a trolling technique called "swatting".
Apr 02 00:06:00 <KRS1>	once capitalist, i think we are now just crapitalist
Apr 02 00:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	this amply proves why central socialist govt is worse than the mob
Apr 02 00:06:17 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: did you fix luke's shit yet?
Apr 02 00:06:33 <bgupta>	well I can't see it happening in the US, basically the US "mass" citizens will pay taxes if they get what they think they want, and they don't feel that they are being taxed unfairly.
Apr 02 00:06:37 <mircea_popescu>	(tho the fact that the mob defeats socialist states everywhere, from russia to iran and etc) is pretty good proof of the superiority of the system
Apr 02 00:06:47 <KRS1>	shhhhhh...they're listening.
Apr 02 00:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	or moreover, of the incredibly brokedness of socialism as a form of govt.
Apr 02 00:06:53 <bgupta>	(IE: Unfairly means more than their equivalent neighbor)
Apr 02 00:06:57 <Ukto>	Diablo-D3: i think they have been claimed.
Apr 02 00:07:14 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta i guess you get to watch it unfold.
Apr 02 00:07:36 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: seriously, what the fuck is with people
Apr 02 00:07:37 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much the only us citizens that like taxes are those who get a net benefit from govt servicing.
Apr 02 00:07:52 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: he didnt even know glbse was shut down last year
Apr 02 00:08:18 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: correct. :)
Apr 02 00:08:22 <bgupta>	You'd be surprised how many that is.. with the gov't borrowing money like mad.
Apr 02 00:09:30 <BitHub>	swatting?
Apr 02 00:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.56885555 = 6.2574 BTC [+]
Apr 02 00:11:13 <bgupta>	So right now 1btc buys about 500 eggs. Assuming that btc/usd ratio keeps going up to say 1000 in a few years. does that mean I'll be able to buy 5000 eggs with 1btc, or are we expecting massive inflation to kick in, in USD terms, and btc prices to stabilise out?
Apr 02 00:11:21 <BitHub>	i'm a fan of positive reinforcement trolling
Apr 02 00:11:29 <bgupta>	If that happens, I'd say btc has graduated into a good currency.
Apr 02 00:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta i wouldsay the 500 eggs for 1 btc is mostly an effect of btc price being de facto supressed through ignorance/it being new
Apr 02 00:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	once btc reflects its true value (ie, fiat M3 / btc m3) you can pretty much count that forever more you'll get an egg for 3 satoshi or w/e that works out to
Apr 02 00:14:31 <kakobrekla>	but that would be blockchain spam
Apr 02 00:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 02 00:14:52 <kakobrekla>	even with teh 0.005 fee
Apr 02 00:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine the way it'd work out in practice is you sell out some satoshi for a wad of zimbabew dollars or w/e
Apr 02 00:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	and then just spend that
Apr 02 00:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	at least for eggs
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Apr 02 00:17:16 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: the average lifespan of a nation state isnt very long, the US in its present form of 50 states isnt even 150 years old.
Apr 02 00:18:11 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta: and its on its way out
Apr 02 00:18:32 <bgupta>	So in that case, buying btc, seems akin to buying shares in the new world order. And if we aren't ever envisioning a future where one can buy eggs with btc, (even when 1 btc is worth a wheelbarrow full of fiat) there is a problem. We'll need (and probably will) solve the blockchain spam problem.
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Apr 02 00:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	i would think that's exactly it. buying btc is buying shares in the new world order.
Apr 02 00:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	you notably can't buy eggs directly with google shares.
Apr 02 00:19:36 <tiberiusiv>	whats the blockchain spam problem?
Apr 02 00:19:39 <ThickAsThieves>	nor gold
Apr 02 00:19:46 <mircea_popescu>	but that does not mean that your google shares aren't what your eggs are ultimately bought with
Apr 02 00:20:07 <bgupta>	right, hence my arguement that it's not really a great currency… but it doesn't have to be to be a great thing to invest in.
Apr 02 00:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	i guess someone could trade about 3 semi tractor trailers' load of eggs
Apr 02 00:20:15 <bgupta>	google shares aren't a great currency either
Apr 02 00:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	for one berskshire hathaway share
Apr 02 00:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard of this happening tho.
Apr 02 00:20:43 <mircea_popescu>	but you mean by currency something that's just a very edge case of what a currency may do
Apr 02 00:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	that was my original objection.
Apr 02 00:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	some women masturbate with handguns.
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Apr 02 00:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	while some handguns are more apt for that purpose than others
Apr 02 00:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno that many people care about this in a discussion of "a good handgun"
Apr 02 00:21:55 <ThickAsThieves>	undocumented feature
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Apr 02 00:23:11 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, in most of the world eggs are primarily bought on notebook credit
Apr 02 00:23:22 <mircea_popescu>	(ie, shop owner has a notebook, marks down your eggs, gets paid once a month)
Apr 02 00:23:39 <bgupta>	I'm saying that currencies were created to solve the barter systems lack of a of double coincidence of wants. All this wealth, technical progress and all that have been able to be created as a result are just efects of the creation of currency, and not its basic purpose.
Apr 02 00:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	i would say that's incorrect.
Apr 02 00:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	currencies were created to pay the military.
Apr 02 00:24:20 <ThickAsThieves>	currencies were created for convenience
Apr 02 00:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	the original currency unit was worth in the $100k range in today's terms.
Apr 02 00:24:52 <bgupta>	Really, I thought they paid soldiers in salt, wine and food?
Apr 02 00:25:08 <bgupta>	what was the original currency unit?
Apr 02 00:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	solidus, read up we just had this convo.
Apr 02 00:25:14 <ThickAsThieves>	Eve's nani
Apr 02 00:25:18 <mircea_popescu>	of course if you prefert to go even earlier
Apr 02 00:25:34 <mircea_popescu>	the greeks were split on the topic. sparta banned all currency
Apr 02 00:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	athens used it to settle large scale trade, again much like btc is used today.
Apr 02 00:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	that currency slowly made it's way into the hands of the poor, in ever smaller denominations, sizes and metals, silver, copper, tin
Apr 02 00:26:25 <mircea_popescu>	does not make the currency "that which is exchanged for one egg"
Apr 02 00:27:48 <ThickAsThieves>	whats the argument on the table?
Apr 02 00:28:22 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoin is not perfect?
Apr 02 00:28:49 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta is an idiot
Apr 02 00:28:53 <tiberiusiv>	thats the arguement
Apr 02 00:29:05 <tiberiusiv>	and hes stupid and lazy to top it off
Apr 02 00:29:15 <tiberiusiv>	bgupta shut the fuck up with your elementary level arguements and go read a book.
Apr 02 00:29:55 <tiberiusiv>	spamming the chat for the last 15min with childish statements
Apr 02 00:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	i think more of an exploratory "what is bitcoin really"
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Apr 02 00:34:55 <bgupta>	Ok one egg, is a bit.. mmm.. hyperbolic.. you can't really even buy one egg with fiat, in most markets. (They are typically sold by the dozen).. The point is bitcoin isn't rally a good currency right now, but it does have attributes which could allow it to become one..
Apr 02 00:34:58 <bgupta>	 I was thinking that once the market cap of btc inc. reaches high enough we could see certain countries starting to back fiat with btc, in which case we'd start to see this sort of stuff changing.
Apr 02 00:35:40 <bgupta>	but it has a long way to go between now and then.. (which is not as impossible as many would want us to believe.)
Apr 02 00:36:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think you can get gov buy-in
Apr 02 00:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	long way = 10 years ?
Apr 02 00:36:10 <ThickAsThieves>	ever
Apr 02 00:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	think about it, brazil crisis ?
Apr 02 00:36:24 <bgupta>	btw how did you calculate that 1 solidus is worth 100,000 usd in today's terms? (Yeah I was thinking 10 years)
Apr 02 00:36:28 <mircea_popescu>	if something like that happens again, the local scrip is backed by bitcoin instantly.
Apr 02 00:36:38 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta using my ass.
Apr 02 00:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	it was something like 32 grams of gold iirc
Apr 02 00:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	accounting for the rarity of gold/economy differential and everything... i just came up with 100k
Apr 02 00:37:27 <bgupta>	err 62 solidus to the roman lb or 5.5 g each
Apr 02 00:37:56 <bgupta>	55 USD per gram of gold.
Apr 02 00:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	hum, wasn't it much larger ?
Apr 02 00:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	4 grams in gold is tiny
Apr 02 00:38:30 <bgupta>	unless this is wrong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidus_(coin)
Apr 02 00:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	well anyway.
Apr 02 00:39:21 <bgupta>	however one could argue that since 1 solidus was exchangable for 1000 denarii.. then perhaps one can calculate it as worth 1000 x 6.8 grams of silver.
Apr 02 00:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	the 55 dollar per gram is misleading. they had much less gold available at the time, and different economy.
Apr 02 00:39:49 <mircea_popescu>	having one of the 100 coins in an empire makes you like a guy having1 of the 100 coins in another empire.
Apr 02 00:39:53 <bgupta>	so closer to $900
Apr 02 00:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the relative preminence of someone with 100k in the american empire today
Apr 02 00:40:12 <mircea_popescu>	is comparable to the relative preminence of someone with one solidus in 40 ad
Apr 02 00:40:52 <bgupta>	can't forget the effect that slavery had on the economy as well.
Apr 02 00:40:54 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty much the only way to judge, in my eyes. I don't care about absolutes, i wish to conserve the same percentual value.
Apr 02 00:41:16 <ThickAsThieves>	you guys might be off the deep end here
Apr 02 00:41:25 <[\\\]>	.bait
Apr 02 00:41:40 <bgupta>	IE: someone with 1 solidus had infinate more wealth than your average slave in Roman times
Apr 02 00:41:59 <bgupta>	yeah totally offtopic, my apologies
Apr 02 00:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	actually i think the 100k is remarkably adequate
Apr 02 00:42:46 <ThickAsThieves>	not trying to moderate, just rubbernecking I guess
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Apr 02 00:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... richest guy has what, 600k of these 100k dollar coins
Apr 02 00:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	seems about what the famous rich had at the time too
Apr 02 00:45:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 02 00:45:42 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229247 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 576 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 20 hours, 26 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7702888.16265 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.04014
Apr 02 00:46:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 02 00:46:02 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7702888.16265 based on data since last change | 8925421.86613 based on data for last three days
Apr 02 00:49:23 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: This articly sorta matches what I am thinking but it uses the term money instead of currency. http://www.businessinsider.com/is-bitcoin-money-2013-4
Apr 02 00:51:08 <mircea_popescu>	"start your free trial now"
Apr 02 00:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	i guess i'll pass
Apr 02 00:51:50 <bgupta>	start you free trial now? this site isn't a paywall site in the us?
Apr 02 00:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno
Apr 02 00:52:31 <mircea_popescu>	a just a dumbass advertising splahs
Apr 02 00:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	bah what a mess.
Apr 02 00:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	well basically... i can't access it.
Apr 02 00:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	pastebin
Apr 02 00:53:17 <bgupta>	will do
Apr 02 00:54:21 <bgupta>	http://pastebin.com/fs3TYZDs
Apr 02 00:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Apr 02 00:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	In the USA, the primary form of money is bank deposits because bank deposits are the form of money that dominate the US payments system.
Apr 02 00:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	im sorry, i can;'t get past the unfounded assumptions and general illiteracy of the author.
Apr 02 01:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3943002 = 0.7886 BTC [-]
Apr 02 01:03:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.39430001 BTC [-]
Apr 02 01:03:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3943 = 3.943 BTC [-]
Apr 02 01:03:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.393 = 1.179 BTC [-]
Apr 02 01:03:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.393 = 1.179 BTC [-]
Apr 02 01:03:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3802 = 0.7604 BTC [-]
Apr 02 01:03:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38000001 = 1.14 BTC [-]
Apr 02 01:03:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.38 = 3.42 BTC [-]
Apr 02 01:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00060875 = 6.7267 BTC [-]
Apr 02 01:04:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4504 @ 0.00061282 = 2.7601 BTC [+]
Apr 02 01:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2846 @ 0.00061414 = 1.7478 BTC [+]
Apr 02 01:04:50 <ThickAsThieves>	btc falling
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Apr 02 01:05:07 <dub>	ppcoin doubled again
Apr 02 01:05:26 <dub>	in last 12 hours
Apr 02 01:05:27 <ThickAsThieves>	someone is dumping
Apr 02 01:05:35 <dub>	;;goxlag
Apr 02 01:05:35 <gribble>	75.838911 seconds
Apr 02 01:06:45 <ThickAsThieves>	weird my clark moody is buggin out
Apr 02 01:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [-]
Apr 02 01:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 02 01:07:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.79189, Best ask: 102.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.20711, Last trade: 102.99900, 24 hour volume: 100538.63346403, 24 hour low: 93.11000, 24 hour high: 106.00000, 24 hour vwap: 101.13664
Apr 02 01:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	still over 100
Apr 02 01:08:09 <kakobrekla>	ya but that is + goxlag + gribble lag
Apr 02 01:08:14 <kakobrekla>	so it might we as well 10
Apr 02 01:08:54 *	kakobrekla places a buy at 12
Apr 02 01:08:57 <kakobrekla>	maybe im lucky
Apr 02 01:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 02 01:09:42 <ThickAsThieves>	100
Apr 02 01:09:46 <dub>	its gonna be cool when they introduce ltc
Apr 02 01:09:57 <ThickAsThieves>	they won't
Apr 02 01:10:08 <dub>	lag will be for days
Apr 02 01:10:35 <dub>	you think its a joke?
Apr 02 01:10:52 <dub>	btc jokes is funny
Apr 02 01:10:52 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Apr 02 01:11:02 <ThickAsThieves>	not necessarily a joke from hox
Apr 02 01:11:04 <ThickAsThieves>	gox
Apr 02 01:11:06 <dub>	it'd be like obama saying 'we just nuked teh shit out of korea'
Apr 02 01:11:08 <ThickAsThieves>	but a joke
Apr 02 01:11:13 <ZedsterX>	https://www.bitcoinforum.com/bitcoin-exchange/mt-gox-confirmed-to-start-exchanging-litecoin!-don%27t-miss-the-boat-on-this-one!/
Apr 02 01:11:17 <ThickAsThieves>	99.90
Apr 02 01:11:22 <dub>	waiting 24 hours.. jokes niggas
Apr 02 01:11:34 <ZedsterX>	no joke
Apr 02 01:11:37 <ThickAsThieves>	99
Apr 02 01:12:46 <bgupta>	ThickAsThieves: Where do you get your RT pricing for btc again?
Apr 02 01:12:53 <ThickAsThieves>	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
Apr 02 01:13:09 <ThickAsThieves>	when that breaks i try coinlab.com
Apr 02 01:13:24 <dub>	bitcoinity.org/markets
Apr 02 01:13:28 <dub>	#bitcoin-rt
Apr 02 01:13:38 <dub>	mtgoxlive.com (lol)
Apr 02 01:13:46 <kakobrekla>	> I cannot officially announce how "soon" "soon" means
Apr 02 01:13:49 <kakobrekla>	aka never
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Apr 02 01:15:06 <ZedsterX>	why would the API already be in place then?
Apr 02 01:15:29 <kakobrekla>	for teh fools?
Apr 02 01:15:31 <ThickAsThieves>	when did it first appear?
Apr 02 01:16:07 <ThickAsThieves>	its silly to think Gox would sell ltc imo
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Apr 02 01:18:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i need some sleep, plz work on getting btc back to 106 thx
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Apr 02 01:19:58 <dub>	I think a lot of money has been spent on LTC today in anticipation
Apr 02 01:20:28 <dub>	increases the chance of tux catchign a bullet I guess
Apr 02 01:21:00 <ZedsterX>	i turned 60 LTC into 2.5 BTC it was kinda fun
Apr 02 01:21:51 <dub>	;;asks 106
Apr 02 01:21:51 <gribble>	There are currently 2445.0987 bitcoins offered at or under 106.0 USD, worth 256822.359423 USD in total. | Data vintage: 111.1200 seconds
Apr 02 01:22:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2154 @ 0.00061414 = 1.3229 BTC [+]
Apr 02 01:22:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00061599 = 2.8028 BTC [+]
Apr 02 01:22:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1350 @ 0.00061859 = 0.8351 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 01:30:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00062045 = 1.7062 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 01:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.56799999 = 11.36 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 02:12:36 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 02 02:12:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.50000, Best ask: 103.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 103.00000, 24 hour volume: 105013.69915088, 24 hour low: 93.50000, 24 hour high: 106.00000, 24 hour vwap: 101.19241
Apr 02 02:13:49 <BingoBoingo_>	;;wallstreet
Apr 02 02:13:49 <gribble>	Error: "wallstreet" is not a valid command.
Apr 02 02:14:24 <BingoBoingo_>	Oh, shit Wall Street ain't found bitcoin yet and we broke $100
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Apr 02 02:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 02 02:19:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's found it jus' fne.
Apr 02 02:24:49 <taub>	btce chat is a riot...
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Apr 02 02:26:21 <taub>	http://lolosad.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/book-buy-sell-sell-sm.jpg
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Apr 02 02:43:26 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 02 02:43:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.91000, Best ask: 101.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 100.91000, 24 hour volume: 104235.61913665, 24 hour low: 93.50000, 24 hour high: 106.00000, 24 hour vwap: 101.32202
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Apr 02 02:52:00 <BingoBoingo_>	Maybe someone can help me, who is TheButterZone and do they always want to fuck their customers in the ass?
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Apr 02 03:23:59 <ZedsterX>	they seem to be one the first amazon stores to accept BTC
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Apr 02 03:24:45 <ZedsterX>	but they are very new i see
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Apr 02 03:27:11 <BingoBoingo_>	;;ycominator
Apr 02 03:27:11 <gribble>	Error: "ycominator" is not a valid command.
Apr 02 03:27:20 <BingoBoingo_>	;;ycombinator
Apr 02 03:27:21 <gribble>	Error: "ycombinator" is not a valid command.
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Apr 02 03:37:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7559 BTC [+]
Apr 02 03:37:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.756 = 4.536 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 03:46:24 <BingoBoingo_>	;;wallstreet
Apr 02 03:46:24 <gribble>	Error: "wallstreet" is not a valid command.
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Apr 02 03:46:47 <error4733>	!last m s.dice
Apr 02 03:46:48 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00378605 BTC [-]
Apr 02 03:46:58 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Apr 02 03:46:59 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.56799999 BTC [+]
Apr 02 03:47:06 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 02 03:47:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.80000, Best ask: 101.80002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 101.80002, 24 hour volume: 103958.47309302, 24 hour low: 93.50000, 24 hour high: 106.00000, 24 hour vwap: 101.46624
Apr 02 03:47:11 <BingoBoingo_>	Oh, shit we are falling all the way down to $100 and WallStreet is still on the sidelines
Apr 02 03:50:19 <error4733>	wallstreet is 5874 in Mtgox queue
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Apr 02 03:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0006519 = 3.2595 BTC [+]
Apr 02 03:56:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00065907 = 9.8861 BTC [+]
Apr 02 03:56:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2593 @ 0.00066487 = 1.724 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 04:15:01 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 02 04:15:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.50000, Best ask: 102.66430, Bid-ask spread: 0.16430, Last trade: 102.66430, 24 hour volume: 104332.57277571, 24 hour low: 93.55000, 24 hour high: 106.00000, 24 hour vwap: 101.48545
Apr 02 04:17:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.756 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 04:27:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.0048 = 0.24 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 04:57:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00637 BTC [+]
Apr 02 05:02:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00400173 = 1.6007 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 05:08:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 50.1472201 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 1671 satoshi per share
Apr 02 05:09:07 <mircea_popescu>	um
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Apr 02 05:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	jesus i can't believe i fucked it up again.
Apr 02 05:12:59 <ColdHardMetal>	thrown off by the snazzy black background version?
Apr 02 05:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 02 05:16:30 <Namworld>	erhm... what was that >.>
Apr 02 05:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	me being retarded.
Apr 02 05:17:38 <Namworld>	And can that be undone?
Apr 02 05:17:50 <Namworld>	Else I'll have to update what I paid on my PT...
Apr 02 05:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	yep presently.
Apr 02 05:21:34 <BingoBoingo_>	Have you considered just killing the bot?
Apr 02 05:21:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 15.04416603 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 501 satoshi per share
Apr 02 05:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	there, correct dividend paid out.
Apr 02 05:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBoingo_ which one ?
Apr 02 05:22:00 <Namworld>	good
Apr 02 05:22:03 <BingoBoingo_>	MPOE, the bot not the girl
Apr 02 05:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	why would i kill the bot ?
Apr 02 05:23:29 <BingoBoingo_>	You need a option making bot more suited to a truly bull market.
Apr 02 05:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	haha maybe so
Apr 02 05:24:51 <BingoBoingo_>	I know you must have consider one and suspect you may have already implemented one
Apr 02 05:25:00 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Apr 02 05:25:30 <BingoBoingo_>	And that is why we love you Mircea
Apr 02 05:25:44 <BingoBoingo_>	You might just be too honest for Bitcoin
Apr 02 05:26:25 <BingoBoingo_>	If there is such a thing
Apr 02 05:28:36 <BingoBoingo_>	Due to price inflexibility people who buy bonds denominated in BTC are going to have to become accustomed to losses eventually
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Apr 02 05:38:53 <ChaangNoi>	Created at: Apr 11, 2555 BE 2:15 AM
Apr 02 05:39:00 <ChaangNoi>	lol my computer is budhists
Apr 02 05:41:17 <error4733>	!last m  s.bbet
Apr 02 05:41:18 <assbot>	Things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun.
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Apr 02 05:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	BingoBoingo_ i'm not really sure it works that way
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Apr 02 05:44:52 <BingoBoingo_>	Maybe not, but in OTC I'm about to loosen an LTC miner's asshole under this principle
Apr 02 05:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	jhehe cool.
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Apr 02 05:47:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00987 BTC [-]
Apr 02 05:47:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00987 BTC [-]
Apr 02 05:48:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00986 BTC [-]
Apr 02 05:48:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.00986 = 0.069 BTC [-]
Apr 02 05:48:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00986 BTC [-]
Apr 02 05:48:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 40 @ 0.00984 = 0.3936 BTC [-]
Apr 02 05:48:37 <ChaangNoi>	lol ltc miners asshole?
Apr 02 05:48:55 <ChaangNoi>	i gota go but wish i had context
Apr 02 05:48:56 <ChaangNoi>	peace
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Apr 02 05:58:43 <Schadenfreude>	anyone else thinking we are in a bubble right now?
Apr 02 06:04:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3770 @ 0.00065928 = 2.4855 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 06:06:11 <mjr_III>	hi all
Apr 02 06:06:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 06:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	hi mjr_III
Apr 02 06:14:36 <mjr_III>	whats new
Apr 02 06:14:40 <mjr_III>	did you see CNBC
Apr 02 06:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Apr 02 06:15:59 <mjr_III>	dumbass talking heads
Apr 02 06:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1280 @ 0.00065928 = 0.8439 BTC [-]
Apr 02 06:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00065443 = 1.1125 BTC [-]
Apr 02 06:16:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70 @ 0.00064761 = 0.0453 BTC [-]
Apr 02 06:16:21 <mjr_III>	but Maria Bartiromo seemed to enjoy hearing about it
Apr 02 06:16:44 <mjr_III>	don't know why I find women who can speak intelligently about finance so damn sexy, but I do
Apr 02 06:24:00 <BingoBoingo_>	mjr_III are you sure those are women, I hear bankers can give a mean blowjob...
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Apr 02 06:33:27 <mjr_III>	lol
Apr 02 06:35:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00374867 = 8.2471 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 06:42:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1059 BTC [+]
Apr 02 06:45:08 <mircea_popescu>	worrisome pic of the day : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128250837142.jpg
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Apr 02 06:50:56 <KRS1>	good for leet buttsecks
Apr 02 06:55:00 <Josh_Rossi>	that was somewhat worrisome
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Apr 02 06:56:41 <jurov>	Bugpowder, is this you? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bhhjg/any_bitcoin_millionaires_here_on_reddit_if_so/c96s1c4
Apr 02 06:56:52 <jurov>	^ mpex whale confession
Apr 02 06:56:55 <Bugpowder>	nope
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Apr 02 06:57:52 <jurov>	if tibby appears, someone send the link to him "ofc, its gypsy trading with himself"
Apr 02 06:58:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064949 = 1.9485 BTC [+]
Apr 02 06:58:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00066175 = 7.2131 BTC [+]
Apr 02 06:58:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2407 @ 0.00066487 = 1.6003 BTC [+]
Apr 02 06:59:30 <jurov>	but yeah, and 50% feral taxes.. makes whoile thing hard to believe
Apr 02 06:59:56 <jurov>	at least it's clear it wasn't written by mircea :DDDD
Apr 02 07:02:03 <Bugpowder>	certainly is an entertaining read.
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Apr 02 07:03:40 <Bugpowder>	well, I woke up to a little mini rally
Apr 02 07:03:47 <Bugpowder>	and  now its fizzling
Apr 02 07:03:53 <Bugpowder>	guess I should go back to sleep
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Apr 02 07:06:45 <jurov>	incidentally, i have to go to tax office today to deliver my declaration
Apr 02 07:07:03 <jurov>	they still can't get electronic servics right
Apr 02 07:09:07 *	mjr_ is now known as mjr_home
Apr 02 07:09:20 *	Josh_Rossi is now known as mjr_
Apr 02 07:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed
Apr 02 07:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	"I personally wouldn't touch anything outside of S.DICE, S.MPOE, S.BBET and ASICMINER."
Apr 02 07:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	that sounds pretty good.
Apr 02 07:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov did you gpg sign it ?
Apr 02 07:15:04 <jurov>	what?
Apr 02 07:15:39 <mircea_popescu>	your declaration
Apr 02 07:16:37 <jurov>	lol... not sure how i'd gpg sign a paper form
Apr 02 07:17:28 <mjr_>	idiots ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1POVoi9NPk
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Apr 02 07:26:49 <Bugpowder>	Yesterday the big move started at 11:45.  The time is now 11:26
Apr 02 07:27:43 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 02 07:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	pavlov much ?
Apr 02 07:29:28 <jurov>	coinbr deposits/dividends processed
Apr 02 07:29:33 <mjr_>	wish me luck guys, i found a wallet.dat from a year ago :)
Apr 02 07:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	gl
Apr 02 07:29:53 <mjr_>	thanks
Apr 02 07:30:15 <jurov>	good luck. i recently found very nice stash of ltc likewise :)
Apr 02 07:30:17 <mjr_>	i went through a mining phase a year ago, and i think i have some laying around, but i had redone my computer
Apr 02 07:30:46 <mjr_>	so i decided to dig through and found the wallet.dat, so as soon as its synced i'll dump it and see what i find! exciting
Apr 02 07:31:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Apr 02 07:31:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1036 BTC [+]
Apr 02 07:31:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1035 = 0.207 BTC [-]
Apr 02 07:31:36 <jurov>	you uncover not yet sent transaction to BTCS&T
Apr 02 07:31:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1031 BTC [-]
Apr 02 07:31:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1001 = 0.2002 BTC [-]
Apr 02 07:31:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Apr 02 07:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	hahaha
Apr 02 07:33:39 <Bugpowder>	so whats the verdict on litecoin valuation?  Did it cross .02 or not?
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Apr 02 07:33:51 <Bugpowder>	on btc-e it did not
Apr 02 07:34:04 <Bugpowder>	and now it appears the bubble has topped
Apr 02 07:34:31 <mircea_popescu>	so far it hasn't neeh ?
Apr 02 07:34:43 <mircea_popescu>	that will be one hell of a bet if it fizzles out
Apr 02 07:35:28 <Bugpowder>	it crossed on viturex
Apr 02 07:35:48 <Bugpowder>	vircurex
Apr 02 07:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	has to cross on whatever charts thing for the bet iirc
Apr 02 07:38:00 <Bugpowder>	yeah that charts thing has it listed by exchange
Apr 02 07:38:21 <Bugpowder>	BTC-e has 97% of the volume
Apr 02 07:38:25 *	Guest95850 is now known as DeaDTerra
Apr 02 07:38:39 <Bugpowder>	so I would imagine thats the right cryptocoincharts chart to use
Apr 02 07:38:56 <Bugpowder>	unless u want to roll your own vwap
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Apr 02 07:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	ya, i feel a desperate, feverish desire & itch to run ltc vwaps
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Apr 02 07:47:52 <taub>	im a wizard
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Apr 02 07:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda funny
Apr 02 07:56:16 <mircea_popescu>	somebody has been putting passwords into mpex' submit field.
Apr 02 07:57:17 <Bugpowder>	abracadabra
Apr 02 07:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	holy shit
Apr 02 07:58:11 <mircea_popescu>	this isn;'t random, this is the strongcoin list.
Apr 02 07:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	HEY ANYONE : if you're using same pw on strongcoin and anywhere else - change it now.
Apr 02 07:59:43 <mircea_popescu>	i bet someone's trying it in all bitcoin services automatically
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Apr 02 08:07:22 <taub>	also
Apr 02 08:07:24 <taub>	dont use bitcoi-24
Apr 02 08:07:35 <taub>	strongly advice against it....
Apr 02 08:07:41 <taub>	gonna be a big shitstorm soon
Apr 02 08:07:59 <pgp>	taub: why?  what do you know?
Apr 02 08:09:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067877 = 6.7877 BTC [+]
Apr 02 08:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00068141 = 6.1327 BTC [+]
Apr 02 08:10:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00400172 = 20.0086 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 08:14:35 <ThickAsThieves>	litecoin hit .02!
Apr 02 08:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5097 @ 0.00383136 = 19.5284 BTC [-]
Apr 02 08:18:05 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: where?
Apr 02 08:20:13 <taub>	btc-e, in bitcoin terms
Apr 02 08:20:19 <Bugpowder>	the thing is, bitcoin on btc-e is $97.  so if they are using that value for LTC/BTC ratio, then it kinda inflates the price
Apr 02 08:20:55 <Bugpowder>	ha
Apr 02 08:21:13 <Bugpowder>	I wonder if THIS is the real reason BTC is cheaper on BTC-E
Apr 02 08:21:24 <Bugpowder>	people are selling BTC for LTC there?
Apr 02 08:21:31 <ThickAsThieves>	nah, its because there are oodles of fees
Apr 02 08:21:37 <ThickAsThieves>	to get your fiat into BTC-e
Apr 02 08:21:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i think
Apr 02 08:22:02 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Apr 02 08:22:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 106.50003, Best ask: 107.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49997, Last trade: 107.00000, 24 hour volume: 106045.53962797, 24 hour low: 95.78142, 24 hour high: 107.12101, 24 hour vwap: 102.58767
Apr 02 08:23:02 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: what is the next move?
Apr 02 08:23:15 <Bugpowder>	in what?
Apr 02 08:23:24 <ThickAsThieves>	buy calls
Apr 02 08:23:59 <Bugpowder>	until this trend shows any sign of breaking, calls look good to me
Apr 02 08:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15033 @ 0.00068141 = 10.2436 BTC [+]
Apr 02 08:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 25 @ 0.27496741 = 6.8742 BTC [+]
Apr 02 08:29:46 <Bugpowder>	noice
Apr 02 08:30:04 <Bugpowder>	107.25
Apr 02 08:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap oix
Apr 02 08:32:40 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 100.55698248 high: 132.18543466 low: 86.04499804 volume: 9215 btc: 4520.92582997 30 day: no data
Apr 02 08:34:46 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 08:34:49 <gribble>	There are currently 35173579 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9785486.7857 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0101 seconds
Apr 02 08:47:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 02 08:47:15 <gribble>	63526.0664122
Apr 02 08:47:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 02 08:47:20 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7697118.20897 based on data since last change | 8874353.54496 based on data for last three days
Apr 02 08:47:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 02 08:47:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.75999 = 4.5599 BTC [+]
Apr 02 08:47:34 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229299 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 524 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 22 hours, 15 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7697118.20897 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.95397
Apr 02 08:47:39 <Scrat>	;;slap ThickAsThieves
Apr 02 08:47:40 *	gribble slaps ThickAsThieves with a terror-breathing motorbike
Apr 02 08:47:58 *	ThickAsThieves takes it like man.
Apr 02 08:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.380001 = 3.04 BTC [+]
Apr 02 08:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3800003 = 0.76 BTC [-]
Apr 02 08:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.38000002 = 3.42 BTC [-]
Apr 02 08:58:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
Apr 02 08:58:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.377 BTC [-]
Apr 02 08:58:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.371 BTC [-]
Apr 02 08:58:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3700001 = 0.74 BTC [-]
Apr 02 08:58:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.37000001 = 2.96 BTC [-]
Apr 02 08:58:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.37 = 2.96 BTC [-]
Apr 02 08:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.37 = 2.59 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 09:10:18 <microhxo>	Guys, anyone willing to sell 1 bitcoin?
Apr 02 09:14:28 <microhxo>	or half a bitcoin?
Apr 02 09:14:37 <microhxo>	All the sites are showing empty..
Apr 02 09:14:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00400173 = 0.8003 BTC [+]
Apr 02 09:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	microhxo you know how to use gribble's order book ?
Apr 02 09:15:40 <microhxo>	Just got into bitcoins, no idea. Whats the easiest way to buy a bitcoin personally?
Apr 02 09:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php
Apr 02 09:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	look there. some people are selling.
Apr 02 09:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	talk to them.
Apr 02 09:16:05 <microhxo>	Thanks
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Apr 02 09:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.5671 = 1.1342 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 09:23:30 <DeaDTerra>	Btcx.se are looking to loan USD either Bitstamp or Mtgox, as we are all out of float. We are willing to pay 1% in Interest, the money will be paid back sometime this week, as we are waiting on our wire to hit gox.
Apr 02 09:24:52 <thestringpuller>	microhxo: didnt we just go through this exercise?
Apr 02 09:25:08 <microhxo>	Yea its for another friend
Apr 02 09:25:25 <microhxo>	My friend yesterday was able to buy on coinbase.
Apr 02 09:25:48 <thestringpuller>	i will sell for moneypak
Apr 02 09:25:58 <microhxo>	Now another friend wants to buy on coinbase (I know we discussed they are noobish, but they link bank account immediately) and they aren't available to sell till friday.
Apr 02 09:26:05 <microhxo>	How does he setup a moneypak?
Apr 02 09:26:13 <thestringpuller>	you go to walmarr
Apr 02 09:26:21 <thestringpuller>	walmart and buy it
Apr 02 09:28:14 <thestringpuller>	price is gonna increase if these sites like coinbase are having coin shortages
Apr 02 09:29:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 14 @ 0.000675 = 0.0095 BTC [+]
Apr 02 09:29:52 <thestringpuller>	wow an mpoe rally
Apr 02 09:29:58 <thestringpuller>	!ticker H HIM
Apr 02 09:30:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.05990000 / 2.0599 / 2.05990000 (2 shares, 4.11980000 BTC), 7D: 1.65000000 / 1.89730359 / 2.08000000 (167 shares, 316.84969996 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.78841844 / 2.08000000 (735 shares, 1314.48755265 BTC)
Apr 02 09:30:04 <microhxo>	Ok so if he gets the moneypak and gives it to you, you will send to his wallet? He is afraid he might lose out
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Apr 02 09:30:25 <thestringpuller>	yes. but smickles is the escrow agent
Apr 02 09:30:41 <thestringpuller>	smickles will make sure your friend gets coin
Apr 02 09:31:02 <thestringpuller>	also I charge 2% of the spot
Apr 02 09:31:07 <microhxo>	nice
Apr 02 09:31:17 <microhxo>	I'll see if he can go at lunch and get one.
Apr 02 09:31:59 <thestringpuller>	i have up to 1 coin available atm i would prefer to just sell a half coin so I can re-up easier
Apr 02 09:32:23 <microhxo>	sure
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Apr 02 09:32:54 <thestringpuller>	kay lemme check my accounts real quick
Apr 02 09:36:42 <thestringpuller>	hmm if I sell it may come as a loss... :(
Apr 02 09:37:05 <thestringpuller>	unless I charge more but I dont want to be senior greedy
Apr 02 09:37:17 <microhxo>	lol
Apr 02 09:37:46 <thestringpuller>	Is Bitinstant out?
Apr 02 09:37:46 <microhxo>	well its ok. It seems we missed the boat. Everyone is buying and its hard to even get in. He can wait till the dust settles and see whats up.
Apr 02 09:37:50 <microhxo>	http://www.resellerratings.com/store/BitInstant
Apr 02 09:37:54 <microhxo>	seems like they are.
Apr 02 09:38:02 <microhxo>	as per recent reviews.
Apr 02 09:38:10 <thestringpuller>	bitinstant doesnt even have gox codes?
Apr 02 09:39:16 <thestringpuller>	bitinstant is up all reserves up
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Apr 02 09:39:37 <thestringpuller>	get coupons for mtgox and trade there
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Apr 02 09:40:13 <thestringpuller>	you ca give cash to wal mart and get mtgox code deposted to your account in like 20 minutes
Apr 02 09:40:52 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 02 09:40:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 107.32000, Best ask: 107.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 107.66900, 24 hour volume: 102970.96829906, 24 hour low: 98.40000, 24 hour high: 108.00000, 24 hour vwap: 102.92464
Apr 02 09:42:13 <microhxo>	Is there some directions on how to get the coupons from walmart?
Apr 02 09:43:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00067351 = 4.1084 BTC [-]
Apr 02 09:46:09 <thestringpuller>	read the bitinstant faq
Apr 02 09:46:23 <thestringpuller>	if their reserves are up they have coin
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Apr 02 09:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067536 = 3.3768 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 10:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164495.0;all
Apr 02 10:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	lmao. coinbase no longer locking quotes.
Apr 02 10:13:35 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHAHAHA
Apr 02 10:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	so vessenes ran out of bitcoin foundation float ?
Apr 02 10:13:45 <thestringpuller>	Wow....
Apr 02 10:13:51 <thestringpuller>	thats funny
Apr 02 10:14:30 <taub>	looks like as logn as you hold any crypto you're okay
Apr 02 10:14:47 <taub>	litecoin having it's little bubble
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Apr 02 10:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	https://b1tm3.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/a-visit-to-mt-gox/
Apr 02 10:17:53 <taub>	and uh yea
Apr 02 10:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	idiots blogging, aguide.
Apr 02 10:18:03 <taub>	bitcoin-24 doesn't use transactions in it's database
Apr 02 10:18:05 <taub>	so
Apr 02 10:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	visit to mtgox article illustrated with a low quality outdoor shot,
Apr 02 10:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	a stolen image of a law book
Apr 02 10:18:15 <mircea_popescu>	and a graph capture.
Apr 02 10:18:27 <mircea_popescu>	what i want to know is who replaces brains with pudding.
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Apr 02 10:21:42 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 02 10:21:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 106.92500, Best ask: 106.95253, Bid-ask spread: 0.02753, Last trade: 106.98379, 24 hour volume: 90737.35999842, 24 hour low: 98.70342, 24 hour high: 108.00000, 24 hour vwap: 103.52987
Apr 02 10:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	"10x per month continuously is too much, but S.BBET is probably on a trajectory to surpass S.DICE is markey capitalization eventually for the simple reason that dice are boring while Kim Jung Un and Carlos Beltran are not."
Apr 02 10:29:40 <mircea_popescu>	kakobreklaa ^
Apr 02 10:29:42 <mircea_popescu>	you has fans.
Apr 02 10:34:41 <DeaDTerra>	Looking to borrow USD on Bitstamp or MtGox more info at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164907.msg1722022#msg1722022
Apr 02 10:34:50 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what hosting does bbet use?
Apr 02 10:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	something shitty. why ?
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Apr 02 10:36:15 <thestringpuller>	i want hosting i can pay for with my btc revenue
Apr 02 10:36:25 <thestringpuller>	but at this point i might as well use rackspace
Apr 02 10:36:31 <topace_>	thestringpuller: we accept btc for all our hosting www.lightbox.org
Apr 02 10:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	you do hosting too ?
Apr 02 10:36:51 <topace_>	i do it all, lol
Apr 02 10:37:01 <bitesak>	DeadTerra, I guess you mean to Borrow rather than Lend
Apr 02 10:37:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 02 10:37:32 <kakobreklaa>	cool
Apr 02 10:37:36 <kakobreklaa>	well hdd is being replaced
Apr 02 10:37:39 <topace_>	my "real" business is web development and hosting
Apr 02 10:37:40 <kakobreklaa>	and im not there
Apr 02 10:37:45 <kakobreklaa>	so dunno wtf are they dreaming
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Apr 02 10:38:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: pm
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Apr 02 10:42:28 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: why is the bot not quoting
Apr 02 10:42:54 <thestringpuller>	bm
Apr 02 10:42:56 <thestringpuller>	nvm
Apr 02 10:43:02 <mircea_popescu>	jesus simmer down
Apr 02 10:44:23 <ThickAsThieves>	ziggap officially late on their BTCJam loan
Apr 02 10:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	that;s promising.
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Apr 02 10:46:09 <ThickAsThieves>	sad too, aethero has a very high otc rating
Apr 02 10:46:15 <ThickAsThieves>	kinda undemrines it
Apr 02 10:46:20 <ThickAsThieves>	undermines*
Apr 02 10:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	myea.
Apr 02 10:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	the old club is coming apart.
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Apr 02 10:49:19 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164772.msg1721424#msg1721424 apparently tradefortress is tyrying to grow tits and generally become mpoe-pr
Apr 02 10:51:08 <[\\\]>	dude, high otc ratings are obsolete
Apr 02 10:51:11 <[\\\]>	its all about gettrust
Apr 02 10:51:15 <[\\\]>	total rating is meaningless
Apr 02 10:51:33 <[\\\]>	if you don't trust the people that have given the high ratings, they mean nothing
Apr 02 10:51:38 <ZedsterX>	lol otc are gone and done my friend
Apr 02 10:51:48 <ZedsterX>	otc rating get real
Apr 02 10:51:52 <[\\\]>	lol. they aren't and you aren't my friend.
Apr 02 10:52:09 <ZedsterX>	ok
Apr 02 10:52:54 <ThickAsThieves>	ziggap is an interesting case study also, in that it shows how an issuer can tank its own stock, to buy it back if they want. "oh sorry guys i was just shitty for week, s'all good now!"
Apr 02 10:53:03 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 02 10:53:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 107.48000, Best ask: 107.89800, Bid-ask spread: 0.41800, Last trade: 107.48000, 24 hour volume: 88974.99780378, 24 hour low: 98.70342, 24 hour high: 108.85699, 24 hour vwap: 103.84469
Apr 02 10:53:42 <kakobreklaa>	ThickAsThieves why else do you think bbet is down?
Apr 02 10:54:10 <ThickAsThieves>	just go offline for a few days
Apr 02 10:54:11 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX i use them. that's all.
Apr 02 10:54:16 <ThickAsThieves>	you can get it way down
Apr 02 10:54:18 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 02 10:54:52 <ThickAsThieves>	"Havent seen kako in like 10min, it's not looking good guys!"
Apr 02 10:54:58 <mircea_popescu>	scam.
Apr 02 10:55:29 <kakobreklaa>	ping
Apr 02 10:55:47 <kakobreklaa>	(keeping my presence)
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Apr 02 10:55:48 <mircea_popescu>	now you must do this every 6 3/4 seconds
Apr 02 10:55:50 <kakobreklaa>	ping
Apr 02 10:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	or else
Apr 02 10:56:10 <kakobreklaa>	ooo its dipping
Apr 02 10:56:11 <kakobreklaa>	ping
Apr 02 10:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	also bitbet is not down
Apr 02 10:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	it's alternatively up
Apr 02 10:56:51 <kakobreklaa>	;))
Apr 02 10:57:00 <kakobreklaa>	should be any minute now
Apr 02 10:57:21 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen kakobreklaa
Apr 02 10:57:21 <gribble>	kakobreklaa was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 seconds ago: <kakobreklaa> should be any minute now
Apr 02 10:57:26 <ThickAsThieves>	phew
Apr 02 10:57:46 <kakobreklaa>	ping
Apr 02 10:57:52 <mircea_popescu>	guise i think there's something afoot with this bitbet
Apr 02 10:57:58 <mircea_popescu>	also some pixels.
Apr 02 10:58:04 <kakobreklaa>	:D
Apr 02 10:58:05 <ThickAsThieves>	did you close the litecoin bet?
Apr 02 10:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	i can load the site but it comes up without the milk in it
Apr 02 10:58:41 <ThickAsThieves>	hey it actually is down
Apr 02 10:58:57 <mircea_popescu>	FUD
Apr 02 10:59:43 <ThickAsThieves>	"It's not just you! http://bitbet.us looks down from here."
Apr 02 11:00:00 <deadweasel>	it's not responding to http
Apr 02 11:00:19 <ThickAsThieves>	should i use FTP?
Apr 02 11:01:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 11:01:30 <gribble>	There are currently 35042494 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10000908.5754 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0104 seconds
Apr 02 11:01:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 110
Apr 02 11:01:40 <gribble>	There are currently 7494.0481 bitcoins offered at or under 110.0 USD, worth 818197.310859 USD in total. | Data vintage: 9.5767 seconds
Apr 02 11:03:14 <ThickAsThieves>	LTC/BTC .0283
Apr 02 11:04:59 <deadweasel>	no shit! i was gonna buy some yesterday.  shoulda when it was still .15
Apr 02 11:05:07 <deadweasel>	oops. .015
Apr 02 11:05:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i feel like as soon as i buy it will die
Apr 02 11:05:41 <ThickAsThieves>	just mine instead
Apr 02 11:06:29 <error4733>	feel the same since 0.40c$ :/
Apr 02 11:06:32 <tiberiusiv>	!seen jurov
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Apr 02 11:11:08 <kakobreklaa>	ok we have signal
Apr 02 11:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	lies
Apr 02 11:14:18 <orkaa>	lies, yep
Apr 02 11:15:05 <smickles>	thestringpuller: do you need me to escrow something?
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Apr 02 11:16:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen scamkobreklaa
Apr 02 11:16:05 <gribble>	I have not seen scamkobreklaa.
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Apr 02 11:18:02 <smickles>	too bad orkaa isn't ~kakobreklaa@188-230-165-22.dynamic.t-2.net, 'cause it would make a tight circle since kakobreklaa is ~orkaa@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net
Apr 02 11:18:38 <orkaa>	slovenia is a small country
Apr 02 11:20:58 <kakobreklaa>	aw shut up
Apr 02 11:21:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 11:21:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 107.92001, Best ask: 108.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.52999, Last trade: 108.45000, 24 hour volume: 82915.61103441, 24 hour low: 98.70342, 24 hour high: 108.85699, 24 hour vwap: 103.92838
Apr 02 11:22:16 <[\\\]>	oops
Apr 02 11:22:18 <[\\\]>	ping
Apr 02 11:23:09 <smickles>	pong
Apr 02 11:23:30 <thestringpuller>	smickles: do you have time to talk for a minute?
Apr 02 11:23:48 <thestringpuller>	via pm
Apr 02 11:25:11 <[\\\]>	uh oh
Apr 02 11:25:12 <[\\\]>	seekrets
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Apr 02 11:28:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 02 11:33:50 <tiberiusiv>	ltc at 3?
Apr 02 11:35:07 <smickles>	i very much dislike these fucking cloudflare sited
Apr 02 11:37:04 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 02 11:37:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.22002, Best ask: 108.48800, Bid-ask spread: 0.26798, Last trade: 108.22002, 24 hour volume: 81121.83037847, 24 hour low: 98.76000, 24 hour high: 108.85699, 24 hour vwap: 104.05417
Apr 02 11:37:19 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 80
Apr 02 11:37:21 <gribble>	There are currently 49646.565 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 4622143.08274 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
Apr 02 11:37:29 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 120
Apr 02 11:37:29 <gribble>	There are currently 16644.918 bitcoins offered at or under 120.0 USD, worth 1866881.56113 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.3149 seconds
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Apr 02 11:37:47 <thestringpuller>	;;market --sell 40000
Apr 02 11:37:47 <gribble>	A market order to sell 40000 bitcoins right now would net 3816457.6631 USD and would take the last price down to 87.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 95.4114 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 25.8565 seconds
Apr 02 11:37:54 <thestringpuller>	;;market --sell 50000
Apr 02 11:37:54 <gribble>	A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 4650159.1334 USD and would take the last price down to 79.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 93.0032 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 33.5197 seconds
Apr 02 11:38:22 <tiberiusiv>	;;market --sell 100000
Apr 02 11:38:22 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7695564.9021 USD and would take the last price down to 39.4370 USD, resulting in an average price of 76.9556 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 60.9398 seconds
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Apr 02 11:39:11 <mircea_popescu>	smickles werd.
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Apr 02 11:41:37 <tiberiusiv>	were probably nearing a short term top if other  junkier cryptos are now rallying
Apr 02 11:41:54 <tiberiusiv>	people desperate
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Apr 02 11:45:50 <ThickAsThieves>	.03 ltc/btc
Apr 02 11:46:07 <ThickAsThieves>	.031 actually
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Apr 02 11:48:17 <bitesssak>	;;ticker
Apr 02 11:48:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 107.51000, Best ask: 107.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.48999, Last trade: 107.99999, 24 hour volume: 79640.72953468, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 108.85699, 24 hour vwap: 104.15616
Apr 02 11:49:52 <ThickAsThieves>	.038 ...
Apr 02 11:50:26 <deadweasel>	!
Apr 02 11:50:35 <smickles>	shit's about to happen
Apr 02 11:51:01 <TomServo>	Where are you seeing those prices?
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Apr 02 11:51:33 <TomServo>	nvm
Apr 02 11:51:36 <smickles>	what i saw was volatility dropping for ~20 min then reversing
Apr 02 11:52:11 <smickles>	(rather, at least 20 min. i don't really keep it displayed past that)
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Apr 02 12:04:30 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 02 12:04:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 107.07900, Best ask: 107.08001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00101, Last trade: 107.08001, 24 hour volume: 77482.04306367, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 108.85699, 24 hour vwap: 104.22204
Apr 02 12:06:03 <tiberiusiv>	im calling the top guys
Apr 02 12:06:18 <tiberiusiv>	last week i said we were +20 away @ 95
Apr 02 12:06:33 <tiberiusiv>	the junk coins are now rallying
Apr 02 12:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	Confirmed total: 5,038 BTC
Apr 02 12:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	teh bitbets r us~!
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Apr 02 12:11:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00067644 = 1.2176 BTC [+]
Apr 02 12:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4199998 BTC [+]
Apr 02 12:15:59 <tiberiusiv>	litecoin has already inflated the crypto supply by $40million
Apr 02 12:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.5669998 = 1.134 BTC [-]
Apr 02 12:16:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5669998 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 12:19:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Apr 02 12:19:16 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 47 seconds
Apr 02 12:20:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.759998 BTC [+]
Apr 02 12:20:55 <sturles>	The litecoin price is just silly.  It is not beeing developed, isn't used and has 4 times the supply of Bitcoin (and Namecoin).
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Apr 02 12:23:06 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc just halved in price in like 10min
Apr 02 12:23:08 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 02 12:23:17 <ThickAsThieves>	its a rollercoaster
Apr 02 12:25:49 <ThickAsThieves>	how's the quote go?
Apr 02 12:26:14 <ThickAsThieves>	nothing stopping an overpriced asset from going up
Apr 02 12:27:05 <tiberiusiv>	sturles litecoin and the ohter junkcoins rallying are bad signs for the btc rally
Apr 02 12:27:11 <tiberiusiv>	as people are so desperate now just to get "in"
Apr 02 12:27:39 <tiberiusiv>	meaning we are getting so overextended
Apr 02 12:27:41 <TomServo>	Hearing people discuss selling BTC for LTC makes me chuckle.
Apr 02 12:28:39 <ThickAsThieves>	all of the assets at litecoinglobal have been gutted
Apr 02 12:28:50 <ThickAsThieves>	bids are miniscule
Apr 02 12:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.00100011 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 12:32:22 <bitesak>	is it now >4$ per ltc?
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Apr 02 12:36:49 <tiberiusiv>	yes bitesak on shitty bids
Apr 02 12:37:17 <ThickAsThieves>	back and forth around there
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Apr 02 12:37:25 <ThickAsThieves>	site is buckling
Apr 02 12:37:52 <ThickAsThieves>	and down
Apr 02 12:41:25 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 02 12:41:35 <kakobrekla>	blocks are rainign today or something
Apr 02 12:41:36 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229328 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.2825963 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 495 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 21 hours, 52 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7692540.75813 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.88561
Apr 02 12:41:44 <mjr_>	sup all
Apr 02 12:41:57 <kakobrekla>	lookin at the bbet logs i thought something was broken
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Apr 02 12:42:03 <kakobrekla>	but they are just that fast
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Apr 02 12:43:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0038 = 0.38 BTC [-]
Apr 02 12:43:25 <mjr_>	CNBC just had a story on bitcion for the second day in a row
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Apr 02 12:43:43 <mjr_>	this one was on "Santelli Exchange" and he interviewed the creator of the bitcoin ATM
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Apr 02 12:45:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0036 BTC [-]
Apr 02 12:45:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0036 BTC [-]
Apr 02 12:45:43 <ThickAsThieves>	cool
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Apr 02 13:04:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 13:04:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 107.80017, Best ask: 107.80018, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 107.80018, 24 hour volume: 74100.21772772, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 108.85699, 24 hour vwap: 104.44244
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Apr 02 13:05:31 <TomServo>	$vwap oix
Apr 02 13:05:33 <mpexbot>	TomServo: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 100.55698248 high: 132.18543466 low: 86.04499804 volume: 9215 btc: 4520.92582997 30 day: no data
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Apr 02 13:06:53 <jurov>	logged into vircurex after several months... yup, 300 ltc :P
Apr 02 13:07:52 <jurov>	time to crash the market
Apr 02 13:07:56 <TomServo>	I found a 10 spot in a old jacket once.
Apr 02 13:08:46 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
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Apr 02 13:18:06 <jurov>	now i logged on btc-e... found even bigger ltc stash O.o
Apr 02 13:18:47 <jurov>	LTC/BTC	Bid (U)	0.00101 BTC 	500 LTC	0.505 BTC 	
Apr 02 13:18:48 <jurov>	10:41 04.04.12
Apr 02 13:18:57 <jurov>	lulzy trade hsitory
Apr 02 13:18:58 <bitesak>	whatyagonnado?
Apr 02 13:19:33 <jurov>	throw them out of helicopter?
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Apr 02 13:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.5669998 = 1.134 BTC [-]
Apr 02 13:23:08 <ThickAsThieves>	site is barely usable atm
Apr 02 13:23:36 <jurov>	btc-e? yes, one has to wait
Apr 02 13:25:13 <tiberiusiv>	hello jurov
Apr 02 13:25:36 <tiberiusiv>	jurov pm
Apr 02 13:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.56699978 BTC [-]
Apr 02 13:26:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00067413 = 5.2919 BTC [-]
Apr 02 13:27:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.639 = 1.278 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 13:28:19 <tiberiusiv>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164569.0
Apr 02 13:28:22 <tiberiusiv>	what is this?
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Apr 02 13:30:54 <jurov>	btc-e it finally broke.. greeted by clodflare
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Apr 02 13:31:30 <tiberiusiv>	jurov are you recieving my pm?
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Apr 02 13:36:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.00475 = 1.425 BTC [-]
Apr 02 13:39:06 <ThickAsThieves>	some big walls at 108
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Apr 02 13:44:26 <mjr_>	there are a couple really great articles
Apr 02 13:44:41 <mjr_>	the new yorker actually wrote the best article on bitcoin i've seen so far
Apr 02 13:45:03 <mjr_>	http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/04/the-future-of-bitcoin.html
Apr 02 13:46:50 <benkay>	pellucid
Apr 02 13:46:54 <benkay>	leave it to the new yorker
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Apr 02 13:47:15 <mjr_>	i know right
Apr 02 13:47:24 <mjr_>	well written, and very nice
Apr 02 13:47:35 <mjr_>	benkay: i think i came across some of your open source code on github
Apr 02 13:47:43 <mjr_>	don't even think it was bitcoin related either, very cool
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Apr 02 13:48:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.75 = 15 BTC [-]
Apr 02 13:48:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
Apr 02 13:48:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 49 @ 0.737 = 36.113 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 13:51:38 <Bugpowder_>	The 2011 article by them on who Satoshi Nakamoto might be was fascinating.  I'm convinced its the Irish dude.
Apr 02 13:51:45 <Bugpowder_>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 13:51:46 <gribble>	There are currently 31144769 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10530749.2325 USD in total. | Data vintage: 36.4908 seconds
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Apr 02 13:52:14 <jurov>	what is everyone doing with the ;;bids 0 ?
Apr 02 13:52:22 <jurov>	it's meaningless, no?
Apr 02 13:52:44 <mjr_>	10 million worth of bids
Apr 02 13:52:53 <mjr_>	but yeah, a bunch of garbage bids
Apr 02 13:53:30 <Bugpowder_>	I think its meaningful
Apr 02 13:53:42 <mjr_>	well, i mean a bunch of people can put bids at $1...
Apr 02 13:53:43 <Bugpowder_>	10.53 milion in real bids on mtgox
Apr 02 13:53:48 <Bugpowder_>	they are all funded
Apr 02 13:53:56 <Bugpowder_>	its just a proxy for how much cash is sitting on gox
Apr 02 13:53:57 <mjr_>	yes, but may never be even close to filled
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Apr 02 13:54:03 <mjr_>	that makes sense
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Apr 02 13:54:15 <Bugpowder_>	$10.53 million is an all time high
Apr 02 13:54:21 <mjr_>	really? nice
Apr 02 13:54:27 <Bugpowder_>	highest I have seen
Apr 02 13:55:18 <jurov>	maybe gox will provide api for queue length, too :D
Apr 02 13:55:38 <jurov>	ppl waiting to be confirmed
Apr 02 13:56:13 <Bugpowder_>	that would be another great indicator
Apr 02 13:56:15 <unbalanced>	It was in the 6000's last week, anyone have any fresher #s?
Apr 02 13:56:20 <Bugpowder_>	9600 on reddit today
Apr 02 13:56:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 02 13:56:24 <gribble>	62793.9424031
Apr 02 13:56:24 <unbalanced>	jeebus
Apr 02 13:56:27 <deadweasel>	9600!
Apr 02 13:56:30 <Bugpowder_>	yup
Apr 02 13:56:33 <mjr_>	yep
Apr 02 13:56:36 <mjr_>	i saw that too
Apr 02 13:56:38 <mjr_>	craziness
Apr 02 13:56:39 <deadweasel>	get on the fucking train, but wait in line!
Apr 02 13:56:49 <unbalanced>	No point in sellin
Apr 02 13:56:53 <unbalanced>	yet.
Apr 02 13:56:57 <mjr_>	segments on CNBC two days in a row
Apr 02 13:57:02 <mjr_>	its starting to get weird
Apr 02 13:57:04 <jborkl_>	those are people waiting to get verified by gox?
Apr 02 13:57:08 <mjr_>	everyone is talking about bitcoins
Apr 02 13:57:26 <Bugpowder_>	So the total bids cash number had a big dip prior to the 25% flash crash on March 22nd, thus I consider it a possible indictor of short term direction.
Apr 02 13:57:35 <jurov>	freelancer.com dying too, waht is with the internetz????
Apr 02 13:57:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3511 BTC [-]
Apr 02 13:57:58 <ThickAsThieves>	too much internet on the internet
Apr 02 13:58:10 <Bugpowder_>	110 is not going to last more than a few hours now
Apr 02 13:58:46 <Bugpowder_>	its getting eaten into WHILE outstanding bid $ is increasing.
Apr 02 13:59:00 <Bugpowder_>	could go any minute now actually
Apr 02 13:59:05 <BitHub>	what does that mean?
Apr 02 13:59:11 <BitHub>	rage?
Apr 02 13:59:32 <unbalanced>	Note: big bubble run-ups *begin* with a lot of media attention. As in, going hyperbolic from *here*. See start of 3rd phase on chart http://people.hofstra.edu/jean-paul_rodrigue/images/bubblesandmanias.gif
Apr 02 13:59:37 <unbalanced>	"media attention"
Apr 02 13:59:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.759999 = 4.56 BTC [+]
Apr 02 13:59:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 36 @ 0.76 = 27.36 BTC [+]
Apr 02 13:59:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [+]
Apr 02 13:59:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.76999 = 7.6999 BTC [+]
Apr 02 14:00:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i think BTC just cant be enslaved to normal rules
Apr 02 14:00:11 <ThickAsThieves>	if people keep buying in, the foundation keeps rising
Apr 02 14:00:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.77 = 7.7 BTC [+]
Apr 02 14:00:13 <unbalanced>	I just mean we're not in the actual bubble yet.
Apr 02 14:00:28 <ThickAsThieves>	it's a bubble alright
Apr 02 14:00:33 <ThickAsThieves>	but could be a HUGE one
Apr 02 14:00:41 <unbalanced>	Right. This is still early days.
Apr 02 14:01:08 <BitHub>	thickasthieves, agreed
Apr 02 14:01:27 <BitHub>	i dont think the world bubble applies to bitcoin tho
Apr 02 14:01:35 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 14:01:35 <gribble>	There are currently 31144690 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10545333.4115 USD in total. | Data vintage: 27.5381 seconds
Apr 02 14:01:55 <ThickAsThieves>	buy your calls now boys :) MP's got this round!  :)
Apr 02 14:02:11 <unbalanced>	BitHub: I think it will apply - things will get insane before they settle down.
Apr 02 14:02:19 <jurov>	i bought last month already xD
Apr 02 14:02:32 <jurov>	and got them upgraded
Apr 02 14:02:34 <BitHub>	hmmm
Apr 02 14:02:41 <BitHub>	for me bubble begins at 1000
Apr 02 14:02:42 <unbalanced>	on it
Apr 02 14:03:00 <ThickAsThieves>	the only way current call options go down in price is if $avg goes down for long enough right?
Apr 02 14:03:52 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 02 14:03:53 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 104.33
Apr 02 14:04:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.0099 = 0.0495 BTC [-]
Apr 02 14:04:17 <smickles>	they come down over time
Apr 02 14:04:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.769 = 6.921 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 14:04:32 <ThickAsThieves>	even if price keeps rising?
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Apr 02 14:04:53 <smickles>	well, calls rise with the price too
Apr 02 14:05:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.77 = 15.4 BTC [+]
Apr 02 14:05:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.77995 = 5.4597 BTC [+]
Apr 02 14:05:45 <Bugpowder_>	depends on the rate of the rise
Apr 02 14:06:18 <ThickAsThieves>	ive only seen them go up so far this month
Apr 02 14:06:23 <ThickAsThieves>	all 2 days
Apr 02 14:06:34 <unbalanced>	It's a Festivus miracle!
Apr 02 14:06:41 <ThickAsThieves>	4 days i guess
Apr 02 14:06:41 <Bugpowder_>	If everything stays steady...  Calls at the current strike price will lose about 5% of value per day
Apr 02 14:07:11 <Bugpowder_>	although usually that is back end loaded (faster decay near the end of the period).
Apr 02 14:07:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779998 BTC [+]
Apr 02 14:07:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.779998 = 7.8 BTC [+]
Apr 02 14:07:22 <unbalanced>	I don't think steady will happen this month.
Apr 02 14:07:42 <ThickAsThieves>	hasnt been steady since before 50
Apr 02 14:07:46 <ThickAsThieves>	i think
Apr 02 14:07:51 <mjr_>	yeah
Apr 02 14:08:05 <mjr_>	looking at calls for $200
Apr 02 14:08:08 <mjr_>	for next month
Apr 02 14:08:41 <Bugpowder_>	heheh
Apr 02 14:08:45 <Bugpowder_>	LEVERAGE
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Apr 02 14:09:10 <ThickAsThieves>	you can let your options carry over?
Apr 02 14:09:15 <ThickAsThieves>	how does that work
Apr 02 14:09:16 <Bugpowder_>	the N's carry over
Apr 02 14:09:20 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Apr 02 14:09:46 <bitesssak>	do you mix the 2 Bugpowder T & N?
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Apr 02 14:10:13 <Bugpowder_>	nope, I go front month
Apr 02 14:10:19 <Bugpowder_>	less time premium
Apr 02 14:10:22 <mjr_>	the time decay is huge
Apr 02 14:10:25 <Bugpowder_>	less expensive
Apr 02 14:10:28 <Bugpowder_>	more leverage
Apr 02 14:10:31 <Bugpowder_>	higher risk
Apr 02 14:10:33 <mjr_>	yeah, i agree with bugpowder
Apr 02 14:10:50 <mjr_>	but i was hoping that if you get the highest strike it would not be so much, but still like a $20 option
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Apr 02 14:11:14 <Bugpowder_>	The calls are probably all underpriced, given the trend
Apr 02 14:11:29 <bitesssak>	I saw that options of 191 are the same price as 200
Apr 02 14:11:37 <Bugpowder_>	although one day it will reverse and we will all eat it
Apr 02 14:11:40 <mjr_>	i think the bot may be a bit more careful this month, the spread seems wider
Apr 02 14:11:50 <bitesssak>	an hour ago, even those at 182 were the same as 200
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Apr 02 14:12:23 <Bugpowder_>	If you want max leverage, go for the strike that is 1 strike inside the 'lower limit' price.
Apr 02 14:12:39 <mjr_>	what is the 'lower limit' price?
Apr 02 14:12:42 <bitesssak>	for example?
Apr 02 14:12:58 <Bugpowder_>	ie the C188Ts
Apr 02 14:13:19 <Bugpowder_>	the bot has a built in lower limit for what it will sell for, to guard against extreme long tail moves.
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Apr 02 14:13:44 <bitesssak>	can you say differently : 1 strike inside the 'lower limit' price
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Apr 02 14:14:08 <mjr_>	what if you sell puts instead?
Apr 02 14:14:19 <bitesssak>	i think i got it
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Apr 02 14:14:39 <bitesssak>	precisely bugpowder
Apr 02 14:14:54 <ThickAsThieves>	but 188 still needs like 198 price to cover
Apr 02 14:15:00 <ThickAsThieves>	which could be far away
Apr 02 14:15:28 <Bugpowder_>	max leverage is max risk of total loss of course
Apr 02 14:15:53 <mjr_>	$oix
Apr 02 14:15:55 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm confident in price rise, but double in one month is iffy
Apr 02 14:15:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00984 BTC [-]
Apr 02 14:15:58 <Bugpowder_>	but its the only way to get a 15x on your bet
Apr 02 14:16:01 <mjr_>	yeah
Apr 02 14:16:13 <mjr_>	i will settle for 6X
Apr 02 14:16:49 <smickles>	gwa, i'm going to have to make an $oix command now
Apr 02 14:17:04 <smickles>	too many people keep trying to use it
Apr 02 14:17:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 14:17:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.76000, Best ask: 108.83000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 108.83000, 24 hour volume: 73582.22634863, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 108.85699, 24 hour vwap: 104.61796
Apr 02 14:17:14 <jurov>	anyone cares to explain mepx to him? http://qz.com/69630/how-to-short-bitcoins-if-you-really-must/
Apr 02 14:17:19 <jurov>	*mpex
Apr 02 14:18:04 <Bugpowder_>	mjr_ selling puts is a little murky
Apr 02 14:18:08 <jurov>	or drop coinbr ref link
Apr 02 14:18:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.168 = 0.336 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 14:19:59 <Bugpowder_>	mjr_: because the deposit capital requirements for puts are not precisely reported
Apr 02 14:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.3801 = 1.9005 BTC [-]
Apr 02 14:20:28 <bitesssak>	to get 15x your bet with 188T will need a price of ~854?
Apr 02 14:20:29 <Bugpowder_>	If deposit requirements were equal, than you want to short the most expensive puts for max possible gain
Apr 02 14:20:42 <Bugpowder_>	bitesssak: yes but it is POSSIBLE
Apr 02 14:20:46 <Bugpowder_>	impossible with the 150s
Apr 02 14:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.38 = 1.9 BTC [-]
Apr 02 14:21:26 <Bugpowder_>	you can plug the equations into matlab or google docs to figure out your crossover point.  Namworld should probably do this, it would make his calculator more useful
Apr 02 14:21:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.186 BTC [+]
Apr 02 14:21:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 4 @ 0.1869 = 0.7476 BTC [+]
Apr 02 14:21:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 4 @ 0.19 = 0.76 BTC [+]
Apr 02 14:22:02 <Bugpowder_>	mjr_: but deposit requirements increase for puts that are deeper in the money.  I haven't yet figured out the optimal play there.
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Apr 02 14:22:16 <Bugpowder_>	I suspect it is still to short the most expensive ones.
Apr 02 14:22:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Apr 02 14:22:43 <mjr_>	Bugpowder_: yeah thats what i was thinking
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Apr 02 14:25:48 <ThickAsThieves>	latest CNBC vid http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?play=1&video=3000157766
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Apr 02 14:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.379999 = 7.6 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 14:27:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00983 = 0.059 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 14:33:25 <DeaDTerra>	 Looking to borrow USD on Bitstamp or MtGox more info at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164907
Apr 02 14:33:39 <Bugpowder_>	again?!?
Apr 02 14:34:05 <Bugpowder_>	oh, still waiting...
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Apr 02 14:36:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 109.99
Apr 02 14:36:35 <gribble>	There are currently 4766.1097 bitcoins offered at or under 109.99 USD, worth 520053.88321 USD in total. | Data vintage: 30.1631 seconds
Apr 02 14:36:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 14:36:46 <gribble>	There are currently 30933900 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10496396.4646 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.7205 seconds
Apr 02 14:37:00 <mjr_>	WTF
Apr 02 14:37:12 <mjr_>	oh nvm i thought that was asks
Apr 02 14:37:22 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 10000
Apr 02 14:37:23 <gribble>	There are currently 41869.349 bitcoins offered at or under 10000.0 USD, worth 14600578.5014 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.8940 seconds
Apr 02 14:37:34 <mjr_>	ok still wtf
Apr 02 14:37:44 <mjr_>	it was 10 mil like half hour ago
Apr 02 14:37:56 <mjr_>	the cash at gox is huge right now
Apr 02 14:38:09 <taub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yiLR4IAByc no sleep makes me feel good
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Apr 02 14:38:38 <ThickAsThieves>	hurts my ears
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Apr 02 14:39:36 <Bugpowder_>	pressure keeps building
Apr 02 14:40:04 <taub>	i jumped on the litecoin train
Apr 02 14:40:12 <taub>	might as well go where the levereage is
Apr 02 14:40:15 <thestringpuller>	;;market --buy 1000
Apr 02 14:40:17 <gribble>	A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 108976.2633 USD and would take the last price up to 108.9800 USD, resulting in an average price of 108.9763 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0001 seconds
Apr 02 14:40:27 <thestringpuller>	;;market --sell 1000
Apr 02 14:40:27 <gribble>	A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 108125.4045 USD and would take the last price down to 107.6869 USD, resulting in an average price of 108.1254 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 10.6214 seconds
Apr 02 14:43:06 <Bugpowder_>	taub: good luck
Apr 02 14:43:20 <Bugpowder_>	people are going to get pounded on that .
Apr 02 14:44:48 <taub>	yea, so far made a couple of good trades
Apr 02 14:44:52 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder_: what's the move? still calls?
Apr 02 14:44:53 <taub>	positioning myself on the edges
Apr 02 14:44:57 <Bugpowder_>	lol
Apr 02 14:45:08 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder_: is a guru listen to him
Apr 02 14:45:10 <Bugpowder_>	sure why not
Apr 02 14:45:12 <Bugpowder_>	more calls
Apr 02 14:45:17 <Bugpowder_>	I should have bought LTC though
Apr 02 14:45:22 <taub>	i looked at buying both calls and puts
Apr 02 14:45:25 <taub>	but they cancel out :(
Apr 02 14:45:27 <Bugpowder_>	when goat mentioned it yesterday morning
Apr 02 14:45:30 <thestringpuller>	he is like the biggest btc investor ive seen
Apr 02 14:45:46 <Bugpowder_>	there are definitely whales with 10x my bankroll doing options trades
Apr 02 14:45:46 <taub>	hits option book was like if you buy both directions you can make profit no matter what direction the price goes
Apr 02 14:45:49 <Bugpowder_>	at least 2
Apr 02 14:45:50 <taub>	as logng as it moves
Apr 02 14:46:02 <Bugpowder_>	taub its called a straddle
Apr 02 14:46:11 <Bugpowder_>	hard when the option price is so freaking high
Apr 02 14:46:16 <taub>	yea
Apr 02 14:46:19 <taub>	what i figured
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Apr 02 14:46:36 <taub>	pretty much cancels itself out
Apr 02 14:46:40 <Bugpowder_>	its basically a bet on INCREASING volatility
Apr 02 14:46:42 <thestringpuller>	option prices will decay over time
Apr 02 14:46:48 <thestringpuller>	best time to buy is end month
Apr 02 14:46:57 <Bugpowder_>	YEAHHHHH
Apr 02 14:47:03 <taub>	ic
Apr 02 14:47:14 <Bugpowder_>	calllllls
Apr 02 14:47:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i bought early :/
Apr 02 14:47:18 <ThickAsThieves>	we'll see i guess
Apr 02 14:47:23 <mjr_>	yeah, straddles are expensive in btc
Apr 02 14:47:25 <taub>	someonek nows what he uses at the risk free rate of return?
Apr 02 14:47:35 <taub>	so i can test stuff n the bs model
Apr 02 14:47:42 <Bugpowder_>	btw - nobody hate me when this shit finally reverses and everyone has calls.
Apr 02 14:48:04 <ThickAsThieves>	we already hate you for taking all our bond money remember ;)
Apr 02 14:48:38 <mjr_>	lol
Apr 02 14:48:44 <Bugpowder_>	BOOOOYAH
Apr 02 14:48:49 <TomServo>	zoinks scoob
Apr 02 14:50:11 <Bugpowder_>	Now see this.
Apr 02 14:50:13 <Bugpowder_>	bids ;;0
Apr 02 14:50:18 <Bugpowder_>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 14:50:18 <gribble>	There are currently 30931480 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10260638.5802 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.2586 seconds
Apr 02 14:50:34 <Bugpowder_>	someone with 250k got impatient
Apr 02 14:50:44 <Bugpowder_>	pulled his bid and bought to market
Apr 02 14:50:53 <Bugpowder_>	tends to happen at the walls
Apr 02 14:51:14 <Bugpowder_>	because then you don't push the price higher until the wall falls
Apr 02 14:51:37 <Bugpowder_>	as soon as we hit the 108.98 wall, he dropped his bid and ate the wall.
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Apr 02 14:55:54 <taub>	there really is no point in other cryptos..
Apr 02 14:56:00 <taub>	is there?
Apr 02 14:56:07 <taub>	51% vul maybe
Apr 02 14:58:34 <Bugpowder_>	hey where did the wall at 112 go?
Apr 02 14:58:44 <mjr_>	lol
Apr 02 14:58:48 <Bugpowder_>	jesus. http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Apr 02 14:58:50 <Bugpowder_>	THIN
Apr 02 14:58:52 <mjr_>	they disappear whenever we get close lol
Apr 02 14:59:38 <saulimus>	Bugpowder_, where was his bid before?
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Apr 02 15:00:17 <ThickAsThieves>	rally time
Apr 02 15:00:17 <Bugpowder_>	saulimus: not sure, wasn't watch closely
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Apr 02 15:00:48 <taub>	115/114 not far
Apr 02 15:00:55 <Bugpowder_>	but the sudden drop in total bid $ coupled with the big market buy strongly suggests it was a single buyer.
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Apr 02 15:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.56699 = 2.268 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:01:03 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 02 15:01:05 <Bugpowder_>	the asks are SO THIN right now
Apr 02 15:01:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 109.80110, Best ask: 110.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19890, Last trade: 110.00000, 24 hour volume: 79316.48734208, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 110.00000, 24 hour vwap: 105.05549
Apr 02 15:01:21 <ThickAsThieves>	110 consumed
Apr 02 15:01:30 <ThickAsThieves>	gulp
Apr 02 15:01:36 <Bugpowder_>	makes me nervous that guy with the wall at 112 is gonna do a market sell of a few thousands coins though..
Apr 02 15:01:39 <Bugpowder_>	may not happen though
Apr 02 15:01:45 <taub>	whats that site where you can do depth playback again?
Apr 02 15:01:53 <ThickAsThieves>	111
Apr 02 15:01:59 <taub>	i was surprised to see that the thinner depth would eat up the heavy walls
Apr 02 15:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.044 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:02:04 <Bugpowder_>	bitcoinity has some depth history
Apr 02 15:02:11 <dub>	coinlab.com
Apr 02 15:02:12 <Bugpowder_>	but not enough for this purpose
Apr 02 15:02:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:02:22 <taub>	ty dub
Apr 02 15:02:48 <Bugpowder_>	coinlab is too smoothed out
Apr 02 15:03:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.56699 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 15:03:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 15:03:12 <gribble>	There are currently 30931488 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10330339.7285 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0107 seconds
Apr 02 15:03:47 <taub>	nm, i was wrong
Apr 02 15:03:55 <taub>	steeper and pointier wins
Apr 02 15:04:02 <taub>	http://coinlab.com/liquidity
Apr 02 15:04:50 <taub>	okay a wall is steepest of course... questions questions
Apr 02 15:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.381 = 3.81 BTC [+]
Apr 02 15:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:05:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:05:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3611 = 0.7222 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:05:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3610002 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:05:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.36100001 = 2.888 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:05:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.361 = 5.054 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.361 = 2.166 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:06:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779998 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 15:06:53 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu, add some strikes, quick
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Apr 02 15:08:32 <ThickAsThieves>	call options are already 10% more expensive than yesterday
Apr 02 15:08:39 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 02 15:08:40 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 104.84
Apr 02 15:08:47 <taub>	=O
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Apr 02 15:14:35 <taub>	95eur soon
Apr 02 15:14:36 <dub>	lewl
Apr 02 15:15:21 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Apr 02 15:15:21 <dub>	mined 95 bytecoin blocks overnight
Apr 02 15:15:22 <gribble>	1 BTC = 111.00000 U.S. dollars = 86.4149475 Euros
Apr 02 15:15:43 <taub>	way overbought?
Apr 02 15:15:49 <taub>	seems like it
Apr 02 15:16:07 <taub>	unless eurusd follows btceur lol
Apr 02 15:16:22 <jcpham>	does mpex support litecoin
Apr 02 15:16:58 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 02 15:16:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.98903, Best ask: 111.46900, Bid-ask spread: 0.47997, Last trade: 110.00000, 24 hour volume: 79381.21726820, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 111.50000, 24 hour vwap: 105.18525
Apr 02 15:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.53 = 2.12 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:18:33 <guruvan>	jcpham: nop :(
Apr 02 15:18:51 <jcpham>	darn
Apr 02 15:19:15 <kakobrekla>	i still dont see a point in ltc
Apr 02 15:19:19 <kakobrekla>	beyond pump n dump
Apr 02 15:20:00 <jcpham>	i read an article where someone proposed that litecoin was the only bitcoin hedge avaialble
Apr 02 15:20:04 <ThickAsThieves>	gives GPU miners a way to make $
Apr 02 15:20:07 <jcpham>	their wording was better and made more sense
Apr 02 15:20:21 <jcpham>	but money should flow to litecoin as btc rises
Apr 02 15:20:25 <kakobrekla>	21:20.03 ( ThickAsThieves ) gives GPU miners a way to make $ < - that is just bullshit
Apr 02 15:20:37 <ThickAsThieves>	certainly is making me some
Apr 02 15:21:03 <ThickAsThieves>	it doesnt have to make sense for it to be true
Apr 02 15:21:11 <kakobrekla>	ya well its no good as a reason why ltc is good for
Apr 02 15:21:29 <jcpham>	i'm not saying it has any value other than antural hedge against bitcoin
Apr 02 15:21:35 <jcpham>	the only hedge
Apr 02 15:21:37 <dub>	ppcoin is the new hotness anyway
Apr 02 15:21:45 <kakobrekla>	meh hedge
Apr 02 15:21:48 <dub>	up 400% or so in 24h
Apr 02 15:21:50 <jcpham>	i feel you
Apr 02 15:21:54 <jcpham>	i hate using the word
Apr 02 15:22:26 <jcpham>	prediction: litecoin always suges with bitcoin
Apr 02 15:22:29 <jcpham>	*surges
Apr 02 15:23:02 <kakobrekla>	dunno i think ltc price is powered by human stupidity which is infinite
Apr 02 15:23:04 <ThickAsThieves>	twas the opposite a few weeks ago
Apr 02 15:23:06 <kakobrekla>	maybe i should buy in.
Apr 02 15:23:06 <Bugpowder_>	LTC is a pump and dump.  I'm suprised it got so high.  Who knows how high it will go, but its gonna be like bitcoin bubble #1.
Apr 02 15:23:15 <Bugpowder_>	kakobrekla: lolol
Apr 02 15:23:44 <ThickAsThieves>	yesterday you would have been a fool to buy in, a fool that doubled his money today
Apr 02 15:23:49 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 02 15:23:51 <jcpham>	i'm not disagreeing with the things you are saying
Apr 02 15:23:52 <saulimus>	that's how bubbles get started..
Apr 02 15:24:18 <jcpham>	and by all logic it should crash
Apr 02 15:24:37 <jcpham>	but I'm  thinking the bitcoin bears move to litecoin during a raly
Apr 02 15:24:46 <saulimus>	well, bitcoin is still up after 4 years
Apr 02 15:24:48 <taub>	dont trade on bitcoin24
Apr 02 15:24:51 <jcpham>	so everytime bitcoin surges excpect the same from litecoin
Apr 02 15:24:52 <taub>	if you got cash
Apr 02 15:24:54 <taub>	get it the fuck out
Apr 02 15:25:03 <taub>	all im gonna say
Apr 02 15:25:37 <Bugpowder_>	whenever someone says that in bitcoinland
Apr 02 15:25:42 <Bugpowder_>	I take their advice
Apr 02 15:25:52 <Bugpowder_>	and usually I save my ass
Apr 02 15:26:12 <taub>	theres ar erason the hotwallet is always empty
Apr 02 15:27:29 <Bugpowder_>	surely someone is waiting for 5000 coin transfer to clear on mtgox right now...
Apr 02 15:27:35 <Bugpowder_>	for the next dump
Apr 02 15:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 380 @ 0.05330171 = 20.2546 BTC
Apr 02 15:29:40 <Bugpowder_>	heheh
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Apr 02 15:31:38 <taub>	oO
Apr 02 15:31:38 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 02 15:31:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.99999, Best ask: 111.55471, Bid-ask spread: 0.55472, Last trade: 111.55471, 24 hour volume: 79769.73383333, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 111.98000, 24 hour vwap: 105.30564
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Apr 02 15:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00067413 = 6.6065 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 15:39:07 <benkay>	GODDAMNIT
Apr 02 15:42:12 <bitesak>	As some of these Call Options are flat in price at the end of the tails, it should be possible to ride much lower calls part of the way and jump onto the higher Calls?
Apr 02 15:44:10 <Bugpowder_>	oh my
Apr 02 15:44:24 <Bugpowder_>	trading options is going to be painful due to the spread
Apr 02 15:44:38 <bitesak>	that was easy....
Apr 02 15:45:27 <ThickAsThieves>	112.48
Apr 02 15:46:03 <ThickAsThieves>	not much resistance
Apr 02 15:46:09 <ThickAsThieves>	113
Apr 02 15:46:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 02 15:46:42 <gribble>	46.100693 seconds
Apr 02 15:46:47 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 15:46:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.72500, Best ask: 113.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.27500, Last trade: 113.00000, 24 hour volume: 79840.93897341, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 111.98000, 24 hour vwap: 105.34531
Apr 02 15:47:34 <pgp>	dear lord....
Apr 02 15:48:18 <kakobrekla>	if goxlag > goxprice = buy
Apr 02 15:48:28 <pgp>	lol
Apr 02 15:48:29 <taub>	lol
Apr 02 15:48:38 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 02 15:48:38 <gribble>	10.92388 seconds
Apr 02 15:48:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 15:48:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.47500, Best ask: 113.65647, Bid-ask spread: 1.18147, Last trade: 113.39550, 24 hour volume: 79840.93897341, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 111.98000, 24 hour vwap: 105.34531
Apr 02 15:49:03 <ThickAsThieves>	120 today?
Apr 02 15:49:08 <kakobrekla>	seconds?
Apr 02 15:49:10 <kakobrekla>	for sure
Apr 02 15:49:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 119.99
Apr 02 15:49:14 <gribble>	There are currently 5007.2956 bitcoins offered at or under 119.99 USD, worth 592094.09086 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.3718 seconds
Apr 02 15:49:46 <ThickAsThieves>	love that tastey vintage data
Apr 02 15:49:47 <jcpham>	i have txn in my -qt
Apr 02 15:49:54 <jcpham>	that isn't showing on blockchain
Apr 02 15:50:01 <jcpham>	who wants to explain what is happening
Apr 02 15:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.352 = 1.056 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:50:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.351 = 3.51 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:50:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 28 @ 0.35 = 9.8 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:50:11 <pgp>	it's a fork!!!
Apr 02 15:50:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i stopped using the client
Apr 02 15:50:20 <ThickAsThieves>	its borked imo
Apr 02 15:50:31 <jcpham>	Status: 0/unconfirmed
Apr 02 15:50:32 <jcpham>	Date: 2 Apr 2013 06:01
Apr 02 15:50:32 <jcpham>	From: unknown
Apr 02 15:50:39 <jcpham>	Credit: 0.27 BTC
Apr 02 15:50:39 <jcpham>	Net amount: +0.27 BTC
Apr 02 15:50:39 <jcpham>	Transaction ID: 7491ead91045944c7135dc2398a68bdb8b18a1d9806a9abb5d5614d104450fee
Apr 02 15:50:57 <jcpham>	wait it's in the future
Apr 02 15:51:02 <jcpham>	i'm confused
Apr 02 15:51:43 <pgp>	you can schedule txns for the future
Apr 02 15:51:50 <jcpham>	i think that is what this is
Apr 02 15:51:58 <jcpham>	it's a pool payment from derpbit
Apr 02 15:52:09 <jcpham>	it's been sitting in my vlient unconfirmed all day
Apr 02 15:52:27 <jcpham>	From should say 1Vayner....
Apr 02 15:52:34 <jcpham>	instead of unknown
Apr 02 15:52:44 <dub>	uh dont use deepbit
Apr 02 15:52:44 <jborkl>	april 2 six in the am already happened
Apr 02 15:52:50 <dub>	derp
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Apr 02 15:52:59 <jcpham>	i failed over there last week
Apr 02 15:53:05 <jcpham>	anyways
Apr 02 15:53:34 <jcpham>	i have 8 cons
Apr 02 15:53:42 <jcpham>	block count is right
Apr 02 15:53:47 <jcpham>	what gives
Apr 02 15:54:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067538 = 3.3769 BTC [+]
Apr 02 15:54:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6918 @ 0.00067539 = 4.6723 BTC [+]
Apr 02 15:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [-]
Apr 02 15:57:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 02 15:57:03 <gribble>	62648.0975541
Apr 02 15:57:47 <pgp>	this should be interesting...  not alot of coin between here and 150
Apr 02 15:58:27 <ThickAsThieves>	tired of Chrome telling me i wanna search Clark Howard when i type clark moody
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Apr 02 15:58:32 <dub>	jcpham: deepbutt has all kinds of broken iirc
Apr 02 15:58:40 <dub>	tycho hasn
Apr 02 15:58:47 <jcpham>	ic
Apr 02 15:58:50 <ThickAsThieves>	chrome has gotten a little too forceful with its replacements
Apr 02 15:58:57 <dub>	't done any maint on it in a long time
Apr 02 15:59:04 <jcpham>	i need to update my cgminer configs in the worst way
Apr 02 15:59:12 <ThickAsThieves>	115
Apr 02 16:00:01 <ThickAsThieves>	at this rate i'll be in the money on my options tomorrow
Apr 02 16:00:12 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 02 16:00:28 <mjr_>	hahaha
Apr 02 16:00:35 <mjr_>	damn, i should have gotten those 188 calls
Apr 02 16:00:37 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 02 16:00:39 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 105.47
Apr 02 16:00:44 <thestringpuller>	cool
Apr 02 16:01:03 <jborkl>	jcpham , that transaction number does not look right
Apr 02 16:01:07 <jborkl>	id
Apr 02 16:01:12 <jborkl>	copy it again
Apr 02 16:01:21 <jcpham>	i've copied it a bunch
Apr 02 16:01:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009999 BTC [+]
Apr 02 16:01:24 <jcpham>	it isn't right
Apr 02 16:01:36 <FabianB_>	;;goxlag
Apr 02 16:01:37 <gribble>	199.623015 seconds
Apr 02 16:01:42 <jcpham>	Transaction ID: 7491ead91045944c7135dc2398a68bdb8b18a1d9806a9abb5d5614d104450fee
Apr 02 16:01:49 <bitesak>	you still can get those 188 calls
Apr 02 16:01:54 <jcpham>	notice how I'm copying the full dialoge output
Apr 02 16:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.56 = 1.12 BTC [+]
Apr 02 16:02:11 <jborkl>	in my client that is showing a invalid transaction id
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Apr 02 16:02:26 <jcpham>	on blockchain it shows the same
Apr 02 16:02:34 <jcpham>	blockchain.info
Apr 02 16:02:43 <jborkl>	yeah, i looked there also
Apr 02 16:02:49 <jcpham>	how can i have an invalid txn
Apr 02 16:03:13 <jcpham>	from 9 hours ago
Apr 02 16:03:20 <jborkl>	what address was it sent from
Apr 02 16:03:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C107T] 30 @ 0.23047712 = 6.9143 BTC
Apr 02 16:03:27 <jcpham>	says unknown
Apr 02 16:03:39 <jcpham>	i'm guessing it is a deepbit payment
Apr 02 16:03:42 <jborkl>	what address to you get payment to
Apr 02 16:03:46 <jborkl>	from derpbit
Apr 02 16:03:52 <jcpham>	the amount and address looks like a deepbit payment
Apr 02 16:03:53 <jborkl>	put that in blockchain
Apr 02 16:04:03 <jcpham>	don't want to share that one
Apr 02 16:04:06 <jcpham>	i'll check
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Apr 02 16:04:30 <jcpham>	but it is the default address or the first address of this wallet
Apr 02 16:04:45 <jborkl>	your address used to recive payment
Apr 02 16:04:50 <jborkl>	receive
Apr 02 16:04:55 <jborkl>	sp
Apr 02 16:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+]
Apr 02 16:05:04 <ThickAsThieves>	finally a wall at 117
Apr 02 16:05:04 <jcpham>	nope it isn't there
Apr 02 16:05:11 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (130-107)/130
Apr 02 16:05:11 <gribble>	0.176923076923
Apr 02 16:05:16 <jcpham>	the txns before that confirmed is there
Apr 02 16:05:19 <jcpham>	but not this one
Apr 02 16:05:30 <thestringpuller>	these calls wont pay off right now...
Apr 02 16:05:37 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (140-107)/140
Apr 02 16:05:37 <gribble>	0.235714285714
Apr 02 16:05:56 <jborkl>	hmm, so your address that you use to get payments from deepbit - does not show incoming .27
Apr 02 16:06:22 <jcpham>	not this txn, no
Apr 02 16:06:47 <jborkl>	log into deepbit and make sure your address has not been changed
Apr 02 16:07:00 <jborkl>	I don't use them so IDK how they do payouts
Apr 02 16:07:10 <jcpham>	locked
Apr 02 16:07:28 <jborkl>	your account is locked?
Apr 02 16:07:35 <jcpham>	impossibru to change my payment address
Apr 02 16:07:40 <jborkl>	ah, ok
Apr 02 16:07:47 <jcpham>	oic
Apr 02 16:07:55 <jcpham>	it shows in the pool payments
Apr 02 16:08:01 <jcpham>	i'll bother them, they fucked up
Apr 02 16:08:12 <jborkl>	it must not have been sent yet, is the only logical conclusion
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Apr 02 16:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner what ?!
Apr 02 16:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 02 16:08:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.10001, Best ask: 114.96000, Bid-ask spread: 0.85999, Last trade: 114.10000, 24 hour volume: 81517.68467091, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 116.00000, 24 hour vwap: 105.78868
Apr 02 16:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 02 16:08:57 <bitesak>	;;calc (199-188)/199
Apr 02 16:08:57 <gribble>	0.0552763819095
Apr 02 16:09:28 <Lyspooner>	you posted not too long ago, mircea_popescu, that these types of monthly gains shouldn't be that surprising if this crazy currency was to become widely accepted
Apr 02 16:09:48 <mircea_popescu>	yes well...
Apr 02 16:09:49 <Lyspooner>	judging by your lack of 300, 400 and 1000 calls
Apr 02 16:09:54 <Lyspooner>	i'm not sure you believe yourself
Apr 02 16:09:55 <mircea_popescu>	oh shut up
Apr 02 16:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	one naming convention change OPER YEAR is insanity
Apr 02 16:10:05 *	jurov giggles
Apr 02 16:10:23 <mjr_>	LOL
Apr 02 16:10:35 <mjr_>	i have to admit i started feeling limited by 200
Apr 02 16:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	>.<
Apr 02 16:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	i am now the bitcoin laughingstock ;/
Apr 02 16:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	finance win. fml.
Apr 02 16:11:14 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 02 16:11:28 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 02 16:11:38 <jurov>	mircea will crash it. so that options won't need renaming again
Apr 02 16:11:45 <ThickAsThieves>	pronly
Apr 02 16:11:49 <ThickAsThieves>	probly*
Apr 02 16:11:54 <mjr_>	lol
Apr 02 16:12:09 <kakobrekla>	yeah pls dont go to 200
Apr 02 16:12:20 <kakobrekla>	it fuckin up errything
Apr 02 16:12:27 <ThickAsThieves>	You guys have about a week to adjust for 500
Apr 02 16:12:30 <ThickAsThieves>	sorry!
Apr 02 16:12:40 <jborkl>	it is, this is not productive - climbing this fast
Apr 02 16:12:47 <jcpham>	http://ji.gy is an -otc options thingy
Apr 02 16:12:49 <jborkl>	it is going to hurt
Apr 02 16:12:54 <jcpham>	i can assist you with it though
Apr 02 16:12:57 <jborkl>	when it looses a bid
Apr 02 16:12:58 <jcpham>	I can't
Apr 02 16:13:08 <bitesak>	;;calc (500-188)/500
Apr 02 16:13:08 <gribble>	0.624
Apr 02 16:13:12 <kakobrekla>	i switched forex to dBTC like a month ago
Apr 02 16:13:12 <Lyspooner>	oh please don't throw me into the briar patch
Apr 02 16:13:19 <kakobrekla>	dont wanna switch again
Apr 02 16:13:24 <kakobrekla>	just silly.
Apr 02 16:13:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 02 16:13:29 <gribble>	80.659941 seconds
Apr 02 16:13:32 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 16:13:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.64001, Best ask: 114.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24999, Last trade: 114.89000, 24 hour volume: 81842.00811465, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 116.00000, 24 hour vwap: 105.82760
Apr 02 16:13:38 <kakobrekla>	o 80 seconds almost buy time
Apr 02 16:13:41 <kakobrekla>	need more ddos
Apr 02 16:13:44 <mjr_>	lol at gox...do they think that volume is going to decrease?
Apr 02 16:13:53 <jurov>	everyone just use uBTC like i proposed
Apr 02 16:14:02 <kakobrekla>	errybody just use dollars
Apr 02 16:14:07 <ThickAsThieves>	gox is distracted prepating for litecoin features duh
Apr 02 16:14:33 <jurov>	1 USD = 884 uBTC.. such approachable numbers
Apr 02 16:14:33 <kakobrekla>	has that been confirmed as not aprils 1st joke
Apr 02 16:14:46 <jurov>	yes apparently
Apr 02 16:14:52 <kakobrekla>	for reals??
Apr 02 16:14:55 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Apr 02 16:14:56 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 02 16:14:57 <mjr_>	you are f'ing kidding me
Apr 02 16:15:01 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not convinced
Apr 02 16:15:05 <mjr_>	they can't handle bitcoins but want to get litecoins too?
Apr 02 16:15:13 <ThickAsThieves>	tux just made some broad statements in IRC
Apr 02 16:15:18 <ThickAsThieves>	didnt commit imo
Apr 02 16:15:20 <kakobrekla>	mjr_ is how bitcoinland rolls
Apr 02 16:16:12 <FabianB_>	https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/LTCUSD/money/ticker
Apr 02 16:16:27 <tiberiusiv>	kakobrekla hi
Apr 02 16:16:28 <mjr_>	its just silly
Apr 02 16:16:40 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> it fuckin up errything <<< also kittens.
Apr 02 16:16:50 <ThickAsThieves>	Fabian your link doesnt say when ltc will be supported
Apr 02 16:17:03 <FabianB_>	yeah, who knows
Apr 02 16:17:18 <ThickAsThieves>	gox is just takin a piss
Apr 02 16:17:23 <mjr_>	i hope so
Apr 02 16:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	satoshi needs to come back and make the wikileaks statement again
Apr 02 16:17:30 <mjr_>	i think they have stopped caring
Apr 02 16:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	except s/wikileaks/*/
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Apr 02 16:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	Dear World,
Apr 02 16:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	Please go fuck yourself. Also fix your own problems.
Apr 02 16:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	Love,
Apr 02 16:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	Satoshi.
Apr 02 16:18:04 <mjr_>	i like the also
Apr 02 16:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves that's what he does. makes broad statements about how their user support takes 20 minutes
Apr 02 16:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	is laughed out of forum.
Apr 02 16:18:22 <tiberiusiv>	ironically everyone in here whose made $$ should thank the US government.
Apr 02 16:18:25 <mjr_>	hahha
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Apr 02 16:18:33 <tiberiusiv>	as satoshi would never have created bitcoin if it wasnt for US policies
Apr 02 16:18:36 <mjr_>	9600 users in queue
Apr 02 16:19:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 20 @ 0.0007531 = 0.0151 BTC [-]
Apr 02 16:19:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.0036201 = 0.6842 BTC [-]
Apr 02 16:19:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150 @ 0.00067413 = 0.1011 BTC [-]
Apr 02 16:19:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 16:19:43 <gribble>	There are currently 30929737 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10172997.2865 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0179 seconds
Apr 02 16:19:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 16:19:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 113.00001, Best ask: 113.84999, Bid-ask spread: 0.84998, Last trade: 113.84999, 24 hour volume: 82748.77279871, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 116.00000, 24 hour vwap: 105.92395
Apr 02 16:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ ya they all joined past 20 minutes
Apr 02 16:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.521 = 1.042 BTC [-]
Apr 02 16:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 16:21:28 <ThickAsThieves>	https://twitter.com/MtGox/status/319143280157794305
Apr 02 16:22:40 <ThickAsThieves>	ah i found i
Apr 02 16:22:41 <ThickAsThieves>	http://pastebin.com/q225BqUQ
Apr 02 16:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
Apr 02 16:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
Apr 02 16:23:20 <ThickAsThieves>	thats the gox chat about ltc
Apr 02 16:23:26 <ThickAsThieves>	supposedly
Apr 02 16:23:57 <jurov>	lol the ltc client will thrash their server to death
Apr 02 16:24:25 <jurov>	it took here several hours to catch afer i last ran it a month ago
Apr 02 16:24:29 <jurov>	100% HDD
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Apr 02 16:24:56 <ThickAsThieves>	they cannot handle the power of ltc trolls
Apr 02 16:25:19 <jurov>	lol yes, adding trollbox will be necessary
Apr 02 16:25:38 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc is not ltc without the trollbox
Apr 02 16:25:56 <ThickAsThieves>	thats the fatal flaw of crypto-trade.com, if it isnt a scam
Apr 02 16:26:20 <guruvan>	the trollbox makes me money
Apr 02 16:26:46 <mircea_popescu>	well it seems bitbet will have strong april dividends too
Apr 02 16:27:00 <guruvan>	aweseom news
Apr 02 16:27:02 <mircea_popescu>	some doofus just sent 20 btc trying to leech the ltc bet and made it 4 blocks too late.
Apr 02 16:27:27 <jcpham>	hah
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Apr 02 16:27:33 <guruvan>	move it or lose it they say
Apr 02 16:27:57 <mircea_popescu>	i am starting to think the education through taxation of the consumer mentality is bitbet's main contribution to btc.
Apr 02 16:28:13 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Apr 02 16:28:53 <mjr_>	i like that "education through taxation"
Apr 02 16:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.501 = 5.01 BTC [-]
Apr 02 16:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Apr 02 16:29:36 <ThickAsThieves>	i have .0102 in BitBet referall pmts
Apr 02 16:29:54 <ThickAsThieves>	referral*
Apr 02 16:29:58 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: bitbets main contribution is putting money behimd forecasts
Apr 02 16:30:00 <mircea_popescu>	ten bux, buy the gal a new set of stockings
Apr 02 16:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i thought so too originally
Apr 02 16:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	but seems at least for now the main thing it does is bitchslap the "i am smarter than the world and also always right" crowd.
Apr 02 16:30:46 <thestringpuller>	heh
Apr 02 16:30:47 <guruvan>	stupidity taxes are fun ;)
Apr 02 16:30:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 16:30:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.88001, Best ask: 113.88699, Bid-ask spread: 1.00698, Last trade: 112.88001, 24 hour volume: 83206.91550006, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 116.00000, 24 hour vwap: 106.00173
Apr 02 16:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	it's a little better than that.
Apr 02 16:31:33 <ThickAsThieves>	we hit 100 yesterday right?
Apr 02 16:31:45 <mircea_popescu>	bet says whatever 10:100. this dood sees ltc crossing so he knows how the bet resolves
Apr 02 16:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	and then he sends whatever btc.
Apr 02 16:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	because this is how people behave.
Apr 02 16:32:22 *	ThickAsThieves created that bet :)
Apr 02 16:33:17 <ThickAsThieves>	would be kinda cool to have a Top 10 betters list
Apr 02 16:33:26 <ThickAsThieves>	who won the most, who is right the most
Apr 02 16:33:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 16:33:52 <ThickAsThieves>	something like that
Apr 02 16:34:02 <kakobrekla>	mebbe
Apr 02 16:34:08 <ThickAsThieves>	then people can shadow their bets
Apr 02 16:35:49 <mircea_popescu>	maybe. tho you know... security implication
Apr 02 16:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe dood doesn't want his addy up there.
Apr 02 16:36:03 <ThickAsThieves>	thought about that too
Apr 02 16:36:14 <ThickAsThieves>	but it already is
Apr 02 16:36:18 <mircea_popescu>	i sold 188 calls ? what the fucking fuck.
Apr 02 16:36:23 <ThickAsThieves>	or, you could mask digits
Apr 02 16:36:34 <ThickAsThieves>	twas me MP
Apr 02 16:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well yeah this is kinda true
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Apr 02 16:38:36 <Schadenfreude>	What's up with the Taub guy spreading FUD about btc24? Hired by the competition?
Apr 02 16:39:08 <ThickAsThieves>	or truthiness?
Apr 02 16:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude what's that ?
Apr 02 16:40:12 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:24] <taub> dont trade on bitcoin24
Apr 02 16:40:12 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:24] <taub> if you got cash
Apr 02 16:40:12 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:24] <taub> get it the fuck out
Apr 02 16:40:12 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:25] <taub> all im gonna say
Apr 02 16:40:32 <Schadenfreude>	<taub> theres ar erason the hotwallet is always empty
Apr 02 16:40:46 <Schadenfreude>	yep, it's that
Apr 02 16:41:13 <taub>	ugh
Apr 02 16:41:34 <taub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYPaN_41tv0 proof
Apr 02 16:42:15 <mircea_popescu>	jeez what the hell these things popping like 16 yo cherries in rural texas.
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Apr 02 16:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	epic.
Apr 02 16:44:09 <mjr_>	;;asks 120
Apr 02 16:44:11 <gribble>	There are currently 7896.2408 bitcoins offered at or under 120.0 USD, worth 928367.695667 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds
Apr 02 16:45:29 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 80
Apr 02 16:45:30 <gribble>	There are currently 50005.472 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 4712927.36598 USD in total. | Data vintage: 78.9417 seconds
Apr 02 16:48:04 <ThickAsThieves>	wow
Apr 02 16:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	you know that IS kind of sparse
Apr 02 16:48:19 <DeaDTerra>	WTS G.SDICE,G.MPOE,G.BBET, BTCQuick! contact me with offer :)
Apr 02 16:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	"Another reason banks need more equity: They tend to have less than they claim"
Apr 02 16:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	duh.
Apr 02 16:52:19 <Schadenfreude>	Odd, anyone else can verify the btc24 issue?
Apr 02 16:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude it's not the first time i heard this in the past week, but i've never bothered checking.
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Apr 02 16:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	bfl is advertising "initial shipping scheduled for the last half of March 2013." lmao
Apr 02 16:54:06 <mircea_popescu>	you know those block cuffers must be overrun if there's nobody to even fix advertising times anymore
Apr 02 16:54:59 <taub>	well if the glitch is true and i think it is, the exchange is over, someone else wouldve found out and exploited it to hell and back
Apr 02 16:55:10 <taub>	as well as the occasional customer that just happesn to suddenly have twice the money
Apr 02 16:55:38 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 16:55:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.21000, Best ask: 113.72000, Bid-ask spread: 1.51000, Last trade: 112.21000, 24 hour volume: 84972.01026069, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 116.00000, 24 hour vwap: 106.18610
Apr 02 16:55:44 <Schadenfreude>	http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2013/04/02/usa-und-eu-wollen-bitcoin-an-die-leine-nehmen/
Apr 02 16:56:08 <Schadenfreude>	"USA and EU want to take Bitcoin on a leash"
Apr 02 16:56:08 <taub>	central banks and bitcoin lol yea
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Apr 02 16:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude i would call this uninformed crap.
Apr 02 16:56:38 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed!
Apr 02 16:56:51 <mircea_popescu>	fact of  the matter is vast majority of journalism today is done by people who couldn't find a job elsewhere
Apr 02 16:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	such as, girls too fat to be waitresses and too stupid to work for the govt.
Apr 02 16:57:09 <Schadenfreude>	Basically the european central bank calls btc a ponzi scheme, both USA and EU want to regulate BTC as they feel threatened by it
Apr 02 16:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	they do it mostly for free, much like starlets suck producer cock for free.
Apr 02 16:57:34 <mircea_popescu>	given all this, it shouldn't surprise they're not capable of reading a text (in this case the finra guidance) and summarize it correctly.
Apr 02 16:57:36 <taub>	their only tool to handle bitcoins is criminalization
Apr 02 16:57:41 <taub>	thats all they can do
Apr 02 16:57:58 *	mircea_popescu feels that itch to quote himself again
Apr 02 16:58:07 <Schadenfreude>	mircea_popescu: Do you hold any assets in btc24 if I may ask?
Apr 02 16:58:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/
Apr 02 16:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	moldbug still hasn't got his ballsack together to answer incidentally.
Apr 02 16:58:49 <taub>	paid content srsly
Apr 02 17:00:55 <mjr_>	worth every dime
Apr 02 17:01:06 <bitesak>	you have been reading too much again
Apr 02 17:01:10 <mjr_>	has anyone ran the numbers on a gpu compute instance in amazon?
Apr 02 17:01:38 <mjr_>	pretty sure its not worth it, but curious
Apr 02 17:01:41 <guruvan>	lotsa people, lotsa times - those are cudas, they're not very efficient for mining BTC
Apr 02 17:01:47 <mjr_>	ah ok
Apr 02 17:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	ya cudas
Apr 02 17:02:03 <mjr_>	cuda is the language i believe
Apr 02 17:02:07 <guruvan>	(though, I haven't run the numbers @ current diff & exchange rate)
Apr 02 17:02:22 <mjr_>	are they the tesla's?
Apr 02 17:02:28 <guruvan>	(either way it's all nvidia IIRC)
Apr 02 17:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	they're the small dinky shits basically.
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Apr 02 17:02:38 <mjr_>	cuz tesla's are dope (except for mining)
Apr 02 17:02:43 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Apr 02 17:02:56 <mjr_>	for science though, they are awesome
Apr 02 17:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164143.msg1722510#msg1722510 lmao
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Apr 02 17:03:47 <mjr_>	1 teraflop at your workstation...that is kinda sick you have to admit (unless you want to mine)
Apr 02 17:03:55 <guruvan>	proper sentence construction is pretty lost on most people too
Apr 02 17:04:26 <guruvan>	I just can't imagine mining with my workstation - I want a computer not a heater.
Apr 02 17:05:05 <dub>	anyone know where friedcat is?
Apr 02 17:05:21 <ThickAsThieves>	china?
Apr 02 17:05:24 <dub>	as in, where in china
Apr 02 17:05:53 <dub>	thinking of offering to build a network for him
Apr 02 17:05:56 <mjr_>	tesla's aren't that hot...and even the avalon was not running crazy hot last time i sat next to it
Apr 02 17:06:06 <mjr_>	but it is pretty cold in nyc anyway
Apr 02 17:06:13 <mircea_popescu>	guruvan some people live in like alaska
Apr 02 17:06:17 <mircea_popescu>	and frigid marriages
Apr 02 17:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	dub i thought beijing
Apr 02 17:06:46 <mjr_>	is mpoe-pr in romania?
Apr 02 17:06:57 <guruvan>	oh - well...here in Northern California I have heated my home with monitors....but it's almost summer...even in Alaska
Apr 02 17:07:04 <jurov>	have frigid marriage? mine btc!
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Apr 02 17:07:33 <guruvan>	tell the woman: put the box on the box, and we'll get something going
Apr 02 17:07:34 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ of and on
Apr 02 17:07:34 <mjr_>	gotta run to the bar ;) see ya'll in a little bit
Apr 02 17:07:39 <jcpham>	if i change jobs i plan to leave my miners in the datacenter where they are until someone notices them
Apr 02 17:07:52 *	guruvan sips his beer
Apr 02 17:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	guruvan in the immortal words of don rickles, "woman, get started, i'll go get the paper"
Apr 02 17:08:05 <guruvan>	LOL
Apr 02 17:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	i think that guy is my favourite comedian all time
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Apr 02 17:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	tho a hard match with carlin
Apr 02 17:08:31 <guruvan>	definitely in my top few
Apr 02 17:08:49 <mircea_popescu>	he's like "dean, don't worry, we'll tell you what happened tomorrow"
Apr 02 17:09:04 <dub>	jcpham: I've seen a few servers under floor tiles, even one behind drywall
Apr 02 17:09:14 <jcpham>	nice
Apr 02 17:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	dub embedded processing
Apr 02 17:09:18 <jcpham>	i like mine in racks
Apr 02 17:09:24 <mircea_popescu>	racks are nice
Apr 02 17:09:29 <jcpham>	with the A/C blowing directly on them
Apr 02 17:09:34 <guruvan>	under the floor is more secure
Apr 02 17:09:35 <jcpham>	while they hash away for months
Apr 02 17:09:57 <jcpham>	i might be able to keep them running 6 more months before anyone notices
Apr 02 17:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llkdffSxb11qd8atyo1_500.jpg
Apr 02 17:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	illustrative pic related.
Apr 02 17:10:22 <guruvan>	dude - me & my brother had a server in a DC that we sold to a customer.....for almost 10yrs
Apr 02 17:10:24 <jcpham>	epic boobs
Apr 02 17:10:26 <jurov>	;;ticker
Apr 02 17:10:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.62001, Best ask: 115.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37999, Last trade: 114.62001, 24 hour volume: 85321.94868801, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 116.00000, 24 hour vwap: 106.38840
Apr 02 17:10:41 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham that's what i call a rack
Apr 02 17:10:48 <jcpham>	epic.
Apr 02 17:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	and yes it gets better if ac is blowing directly on it
Apr 02 17:11:05 <jcpham>	definitely has back pain
Apr 02 17:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	pain is good for womenz
Apr 02 17:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	builds character.
Apr 02 17:11:32 <guruvan>	that's why high heels
Apr 02 17:11:52 <taub>	too cartoonish
Apr 02 17:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 02 17:13:08 <jcpham>	http://naukas.com/2013/04/02/la-fiebre-de-los-bitcoins/
Apr 02 17:13:14 <jcpham>	en espanol if you speak it
Apr 02 17:13:29 <jcpham>	Arthur sends some bitcoins
Apr 02 17:13:44 <dub>	link to esperanto ver plox
Apr 02 17:14:08 <jcpham>	lojban
Apr 02 17:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	i actually do speak it, but i didn't get past the pagesized bicoin pic with a watermark on it
Apr 02 17:15:05 <Bugpowder_>	"I guess that's what they call a liquidity rebate"  lol
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Apr 02 17:18:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [+]
Apr 02 17:22:08 <mircea_popescu>	"I just verified my Coinbase account and am hoping to buy bitcoins in less than 3-4 weeks (which has been the case with Bitinstant lately)"
Apr 02 17:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	fucking joke.
Apr 02 17:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	these people going about pretending like they're doing business, are entrepreneurs,
Apr 02 17:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	trying to scam va's out of financing...
Apr 02 17:22:30 <mircea_popescu>	it boggles the mind.
Apr 02 17:23:12 <Bugpowder_>	that's what happens when there are more angels than talent
Apr 02 17:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	which is the problem of too much money. of course.
Apr 02 17:23:48 <Bugpowder_>	shades of 1998
Apr 02 17:24:33 <mircea_popescu>	i need a larger fly swatter.
Apr 02 17:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164867.msg1722538#msg1722538 lol
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Apr 02 17:27:35 <bitesak>	bitcoin-central.net update
Apr 02 17:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	a ty
Apr 02 17:30:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 17:33:29 <ThickAsThieves>	how long til 120 you think?
Apr 02 17:33:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i give it 8 hours tops
Apr 02 17:33:39 <guruvan>	couple hourse
Apr 02 17:33:40 <bitesak>	one night sleep
Apr 02 17:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 02 17:33:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 02 17:34:00 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229365 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 458 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 14 hours, 48 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7713534.00467 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.19914
Apr 02 17:34:07 <guruvan>	fuck - at this rate I wouldn't be surprised to wake up to $200 BTC and $20 LTC
Apr 02 17:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	get out
Apr 02 17:34:41 <mircea_popescu>	btc pls stop trolling my options
Apr 02 17:34:46 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, what amount of loss on options would you have to take before you changed how it works?
Apr 02 17:34:59 <ThickAsThieves>	lol, srsly tho
Apr 02 17:35:26 <mircea_popescu>	a lot.
Apr 02 17:35:34 <jcpham>	http://www.runtogold.com/2013/04/why-michael-pento-should-just-keep-his-mouth-shut/
Apr 02 17:36:34 <ThickAsThieves>	wtf is an internet?
Apr 02 17:36:52 <mircea_popescu>	what's a pento
Apr 02 17:37:04 <ThickAsThieves>	sounds portuguese
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Apr 02 17:37:52 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
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Apr 02 17:37:55 <ThickAsThieves>	guess what it is
Apr 02 17:38:03 <ThickAsThieves>	it's Italian for "regret"
Apr 02 17:38:08 <mircea_popescu>	that article sucks.
Apr 02 17:38:17 <ThickAsThieves>	http://translate.google.com/#it/en/pento
Apr 02 17:38:33 <ThickAsThieves>	how sweet is that
Apr 02 17:38:39 <Lyspooner>	that cnbc interview was fantastic IMO
Apr 02 17:38:44 <Lyspooner>	good television
Apr 02 17:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner stop trolling!
Apr 02 17:38:56 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 02 17:39:12 <Lyspooner>	they did another interview one day later
Apr 02 17:39:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7791 BTC [-]
Apr 02 17:39:21 <Lyspooner>	so tell me the people weren't intrigued
Apr 02 17:39:21 <ThickAsThieves>	mp i have deposits waiting to buy more optionssssss
Apr 02 17:39:47 <jcpham>	pento is the guy that asked his it dept about bitcoin
Apr 02 17:39:48 <Bugpowder_>	120 is tomorrow
Apr 02 17:39:53 <jcpham>	he desperately needs a meme
Apr 02 17:39:54 <ThickAsThieves>	the expensify guy looked like someone just sat on his dinner the whole time
Apr 02 17:40:19 <jcpham>	pento's it department said "stay outa bitcoin" so he is
Apr 02 17:40:23 <Lyspooner>	75% of people who saw that interview wanted to see the expensify guy take on the bankers
Apr 02 17:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	im surprised they didn;'t invite taaki
Apr 02 17:40:25 <jcpham>	he's smart
Apr 02 17:40:41 <ThickAsThieves>	IT dept was probly like "dude, fuck Mike, tell him lies"
Apr 02 17:40:42 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham totally. i also use my it dept for strategic management.
Apr 02 17:40:47 <jcpham>	users who listen to their it department make me happy
Apr 02 17:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	this is why i'm so happy with bitcoin dev role confusion.
Apr 02 17:41:18 <jcpham>	i mean with people saying stuff like that on tv....
Apr 02 17:41:23 <jcpham>	how can i beieve them
Apr 02 17:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	because your water is sufficiently fluoridated ? i dunno.
Apr 02 17:41:57 <jcpham>	"i really like where gold is headed, but my aunt said i shouldn't because she likes the color of silver"
Apr 02 17:41:58 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 02 17:42:00 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 106.31
Apr 02 17:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	$auntball
Apr 02 17:42:14 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu... any plans to base your options on a bitcoin index composed of anything other than mtgox
Apr 02 17:42:28 <jcpham>	i'd like to see data pulled from 3 exchanges at least
Apr 02 17:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner they've for the ~year and a half been based on the all-exchanges index
Apr 02 17:42:42 <jcpham>	bitfloor of course because you can sell coins for anything at bitfloor
Apr 02 17:42:45 <Lyspooner>	oh nice
Apr 02 17:42:49 <jcpham>	mtgox for vloume
Apr 02 17:42:51 <Lyspooner>	is there an index
Apr 02 17:42:58 <jcpham>	maybe btc-e for scamcoins
Apr 02 17:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/
Apr 02 17:43:32 <mircea_popescu>	106.31	92.79	62.64
Apr 02 17:43:34 <mircea_popescu>	holy sheit.
Apr 02 17:43:43 <jcpham>	watch as AUD rockets past USD
Apr 02 17:43:51 <jcpham>	yuan: the new global reserve
Apr 02 17:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	herpderp ThickAsThieves what deposits you on about ?
Apr 02 17:44:20 <mircea_popescu>	"Helixion's announces expansive new mobile payment platform"
Apr 02 17:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, there's space for another one.
Apr 02 17:44:27 <Lyspooner>	sorry, how does bitcoincharts weight their index
Apr 02 17:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner all-exchanges vwap.
Apr 02 17:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/
Apr 02 17:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	that's the exchanges list
Apr 02 17:45:13 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 02 17:45:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.18999, Best ask: 115.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.81001, Last trade: 114.18999, 24 hour volume: 85389.54904890, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 116.00000, 24 hour vwap: 106.52455
Apr 02 17:45:15 <Bugpowder_>	The bullshit in the startup space is certainly not limited to bitcoin, I'm not even sure that bitcoin startups are particularly incompetent next to their peers
Apr 02 17:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ it stands out a lot tho.
Apr 02 17:45:29 <Lyspooner>	that leaves your options prone to volume-inducing wash trading at the smaller exchanges
Apr 02 17:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	because in general they bnullshit about less clearly defined things
Apr 02 17:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is very complex and very well known to a core
Apr 02 17:45:50 <Bugpowder_>	yah the media attention is totally disproportionate
Apr 02 17:45:51 <mircea_popescu>	making their bullshit painfully obvious and easy to pinpoint
Apr 02 17:45:53 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, i mean to my coinbr, maybe just waiting for jurov
Apr 02 17:46:20 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner i've failed to measure such an effect so far.
Apr 02 17:46:24 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well then ping him lol
Apr 02 17:46:41 <Lyspooner>	you are still prone
Apr 02 17:46:46 <ThickAsThieves>	probly stil confirmsing nvm
Apr 02 17:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	i'm gonna be prone to something.
Apr 02 17:46:54 <ThickAsThieves>	sry
Apr 02 17:46:58 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck am i gonna do.
Apr 02 17:47:03 <Lyspooner>	change the index
Apr 02 17:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	to what ?
Apr 02 17:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox only ?
Apr 02 17:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	they probably wash as much as anyone else.
Apr 02 17:47:36 <Lyspooner>	their wash trading must be done close to market
Apr 02 17:47:44 <Lyspooner>	something like RockUSD doesn't
Apr 02 17:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	this is debatable.
Apr 02 17:47:55 <Bugpowder_>	its volume weighted
Apr 02 17:47:56 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, a small exchange washing would stick out like a motherfuckingsore tumb
Apr 02 17:48:30 <Lyspooner>	but what recourse do your options contract have if someone trades 500,000,000 BTC at Rock Exchange at a price of 4500 USD/BTC
Apr 02 17:48:46 <mircea_popescu>	0.0
Apr 02 17:48:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00067538 = 4.1874 BTC [+]
Apr 02 17:48:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7655 @ 0.00067539 = 5.1701 BTC [+]
Apr 02 17:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	i'm probably striking any deals and banning involved accounts.
Apr 02 17:49:07 <Lyspooner>	granted, the trades are bogus, but your contracts pretty much are based off of that bitcoincharts figure
Apr 02 17:49:36 <dub>	heh I has $3000 worth of ppcoin
Apr 02 17:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	dub buy yourself drugz nao!
Apr 02 17:50:31 <KRS1>	must suck to have all that money
Apr 02 17:50:32 <jborkl>	base your price of btc/coke gram on SR
Apr 02 17:50:43 <KRS1>	i mean..i don't know what i'd do..
Apr 02 17:50:57 <ThickAsThieves>	can mine like $20/day with one GPU for litecoin at the moment
Apr 02 17:51:23 <dub>	what hashrate?
Apr 02 17:51:29 <ThickAsThieves>	650 or so
Apr 02 17:51:55 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm actually putting about 9000 online this week
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Apr 02 17:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.35100002 = 2.457 BTC [+]
Apr 02 17:53:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.35100001 = 2.106 BTC [-]
Apr 02 17:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 good problem to have.
Apr 02 17:53:15 <KRS1>	=D
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Apr 02 17:56:55 <KRS1>	I'd love to know what opportunity would bring such glee to a formal event http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/7/16/0/enhanced-buzz-10105-1342413332-10.jpg
Apr 02 17:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	buttseks and only buttseksz
Apr 02 17:57:32 <KRS1>	with leg warmers, no doubt.
Apr 02 17:58:16 <dub>	cant have legwarmers without buttsex
Apr 02 17:58:25 <mircea_popescu>	the weirdo looks quite fuckable, form a female perspective
Apr 02 17:58:52 <jborkl>	Latest News: RBC Closing, Cash Processing and EMT Changes
Apr 02 17:58:59 <jborkl>	cavirtex
Apr 02 17:59:36 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 02 17:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	so they losrt a processor ?
Apr 02 18:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	or they lost their only processor ?
Apr 02 18:00:04 <jborkl>	Cavirtex RBC account is being closed, not by their choice
Apr 02 18:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	i get that. do they have others ?
Apr 02 18:00:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h vix
Apr 02 18:00:28 <assbot>	Some are born to endless night.
Apr 02 18:00:28 <jborkl>	Yes they do
Apr 02 18:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	what was it called ?
Apr 02 18:00:40 <ThickAsThieves>	1. Our Royal Bank account will be closing on April 5, 2013. Cash payments will no longer be accepted at any RBC branch after April 5, 2013. You may still make cash payments to BMO and Scotiabank. 2. As a result of the closure of RBC, email money transfer fees will be raised from $10 to $20 starting April 5, 2013. We advise all customers to use the direct deposit method to withdraw CAD
Apr 02 18:00:40 <ThickAsThieves>	from their VirtEx account. Unverified users can use direct deposit to withdraw up to $5000 per day and $10,000 per month. 3. We are no longer processing RUSH cash payments, instead, we are increasing the number of times we process cash each day. Cash payments will be processed at 9AM, 2PM, 4PM and 8PM (MST).
Apr 02 18:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker havelock vix
Apr 02 18:01:00 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Apr 02 18:01:08 <ThickAsThieves>	vtx
Apr 02 18:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	am i halucinating ?
Apr 02 18:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	a ty
Apr 02 18:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h vtx
Apr 02 18:01:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.50000000 / 0.5523632 / 0.57499999 (154 shares, 85.06393228 BTC), 7D: 0.41200000 / 0.53694063 / 0.70000000 (1453 shares, 780.17474209 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.43456538 / 0.79900000 (12672 shares, 5506.81254553 BTC)
Apr 02 18:01:37 <jborkl>	Tangiblecryptography went hrough this with BOA
Apr 02 18:01:41 <jborkl>	through
Apr 02 18:02:07 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 02 18:02:26 <Bugpowder_>	anticompetitive practice
Apr 02 18:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	welcome to the govt sponsored banking enterprise
Apr 02 18:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.39879999 BTC [+]
Apr 02 18:03:32 <jborkl>	Gerald from TC seems like a good guy, wish he would list with you MP
Apr 02 18:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	i kinda like him too.
Apr 02 18:03:51 <Bugpowder_>	TC is fantastic
Apr 02 18:03:59 <Bugpowder_>	easiest in and out of bitcoin
Apr 02 18:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3988 = 0.7976 BTC [+]
Apr 02 18:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	i think he's loath to take the btc pill tho
Apr 02 18:04:12 <mircea_popescu>	or maybe has fiat investors
Apr 02 18:04:23 <Bugpowder_>	feel sorry for all the competent noobs that can't get a bitcoins direct account
Apr 02 18:04:49 <jborkl>	I know he has fiat investors, but he and Death and Taxes are very good
Apr 02 18:04:49 <Bugpowder_>	No reason he can't just bootstrap his company with his revenue
Apr 02 18:05:03 <Bugpowder_>	why take investors if you don't have to?
Apr 02 18:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl afaik gerald = d&t neh ?
Apr 02 18:05:27 <Bugpowder_>	its a pretty low overhead operation I imagine
Apr 02 18:05:38 <jborkl>	oh, you know I am not sure
Apr 02 18:05:46 <jborkl>	I know him by Gerald
Apr 02 18:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.398888 = 0.7978 BTC [+]
Apr 02 18:06:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.398888 = 2.7922 BTC [+]
Apr 02 18:06:04 <jborkl>	I always thought of them as two people, they act different
Apr 02 18:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder_ too late by now i think
Apr 02 18:07:05 <jborkl>	reminds me I need to send him a email, don't delete my key
Apr 02 18:07:40 <mircea_popescu>	ya i like he's like the ONLY ONE with enough sense to copy the mpex model
Apr 02 18:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	how hard can it be seriously
Apr 02 18:10:22 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl send him an email "don't delete my key and list with mpex" lol
Apr 02 18:10:58 <jborkl>	I just did
Apr 02 18:12:20 <jurov>	coinbr deposits credited (at least for ppl who did pay the txfee)
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Apr 02 18:14:41 <jborkl>	I told him if he listed he could drink umbrella drinks in Costa Rica
Apr 02 18:15:31 <mircea_popescu>	haha how's that work ?
Apr 02 18:17:10 <jborkl>	II think that would be a huge IPO, they are not a bunch of idiots like all the other exchanges
Apr 02 18:17:34 <jborkl>	he also actually answers support email within a very reasonable time
Apr 02 18:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	methinks you're right.
Apr 02 18:18:39 <Bugpowder_>	I would invest.
Apr 02 18:18:41 <jborkl>	You remember when the dumbass sent money direct from TG to his criminal attorney
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Apr 02 18:19:53 <jborkl>	caused a bunch of problems for TG, that is when they locked keys to only past customers
Apr 02 18:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	no ?
Apr 02 18:20:14 <mircea_popescu>	i missed out on this one
Apr 02 18:21:01 <jborkl>	Some dipshit sold Bitcoins to TG and wire instructions were to dumbass criminal attorney
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Apr 02 18:21:59 <jborkl>	attorney got wire tranfer from TG , with acct number and routing number - attorney was not a happy camper -
Apr 02 18:22:27 <jborkl>	Then TG locked keys to only past customers
Apr 02 18:23:00 <Diablo-D3>	wtf?
Apr 02 18:23:03 <Diablo-D3>	who is tg?
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Apr 02 18:23:54 <jborkl>	TC, sorry
Apr 02 18:24:49 <mircea_popescu>	o yea yea i recall
Apr 02 18:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	like a year ago tho
Apr 02 18:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	was "how do you have my bank number SCAMMOR"
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Apr 02 18:28:29 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov, how come the orderbook zeroes out all the time in coinbr
Apr 02 18:28:43 <ThickAsThieves>	can only handle like 1 change then it glitches
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Apr 02 18:29:27 <jurov>	some javascript weirdness. can you open js console if there's anything?
Apr 02 18:31:10 <ThickAsThieves>	all i see is
Apr 02 18:31:10 <ThickAsThieves>	GET https://coinbr.com/css/tooltips.css 404 (Not Found)
Apr 02 18:31:28 <ThickAsThieves>	it shows zeroes only when i load a book i already loaded before
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Apr 02 18:33:00 <bitesak>	i refresh it once or twice and it generally comes back
Apr 02 18:33:18 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah if i reload it works again
Apr 02 18:33:20 <ThickAsThieves>	til it doesnt
Apr 02 18:33:37 <jurov>	hmmm... now i see... if you change Item many times
Apr 02 18:34:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i can be a lil spastic after all
Apr 02 18:34:29 <jurov>	ahhhh seems it is dividing the prices by SATOSHI multiple times, thereby all end up zero
Apr 02 18:35:37 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 02 18:35:38 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 106.64
Apr 02 18:35:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 18:35:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.50200, Best ask: 115.00001, Bid-ask spread: 0.49801, Last trade: 115.00001, 24 hour volume: 83365.50875871, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 116.00000, 24 hour vwap: 106.82873
Apr 02 18:36:13 <KRS1>	wow..its like..i have to rub my eyes reading this daily
Apr 02 18:36:25 <KRS1>	just to make sure i dont misplace the decimal or something.
Apr 02 18:37:15 <ThickAsThieves>	check out that sexy curve http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg180ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zi1gADXzv
Apr 02 18:37:19 <KRS1>	my friend had been mining litecoin for the past 8 mo or so and had no idea what the price was..I told him and later he called me back to tell me he had $7000 in his acct.
Apr 02 18:37:38 <ThickAsThieves>	surprised it wasnt more
Apr 02 18:37:41 <jurov>	someone draw goat on it
Apr 02 18:37:58 <KRS1>	ya we're just small fish
Apr 02 18:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4000001 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 02 18:41:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4000001 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Apr 02 18:41:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7791 BTC [-]
Apr 02 18:42:05 <ThickAsThieves>	for the past two months, the longest string of green candle days is 8, red candles is 2
Apr 02 18:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.4 = 5.6 BTC [-]
Apr 02 18:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C125T] 300 @ 0.16637225 = 49.9117 BTC
Apr 02 18:45:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067987 = 3.3994 BTC [+]
Apr 02 18:46:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 50 @ 0.24944674 = 12.4723 BTC [+]
Apr 02 18:47:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C110T] 40 @ 0.22197582 = 8.879 BTC
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Apr 02 18:52:37 <thestringpuller>	all these calls early on
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Apr 02 18:53:33 <ThickAsThieves>	means?
Apr 02 18:54:22 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is gonna manipulate the market again
Apr 02 18:54:33 <KRS1>	when can we expect a turn or plateu here?
Apr 02 18:54:37 <KRS1>	any guesses
Apr 02 18:54:43 <thestringpuller>	130ih
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Apr 02 18:54:54 <thestringpuller>	130ish
Apr 02 18:55:03 <thestringpuller>	$vwap
Apr 02 18:55:06 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WsXus04h
Apr 02 18:55:13 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 02 18:55:14 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 106.70
Apr 02 18:55:31 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 02 18:55:33 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 86.04499804 / 102.57873909 / 136.28053963 (10015 shares, 4,619.36 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Apr 02 18:56:22 <ThickAsThieves>	those calls need more like 145
Apr 02 18:56:37 <ThickAsThieves>	140
Apr 02 18:56:39 <ThickAsThieves>	ish
Apr 02 18:56:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2735 @ 0.00400173 = 10.9447 BTC [+]
Apr 02 18:57:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.0048 = 0.0192 BTC [+]
Apr 02 18:57:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno, i think 145 isnt too far...
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Apr 02 19:02:05 <dub>	;;goxlag --au
Apr 02 19:02:05 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 20.507841 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0410974837468 AU, which is closest to the distance between the Sun and edge of solar corona, 0.01 AU
Apr 02 19:03:30 <mjr_>	wow that is amazing
Apr 02 19:03:39 <mjr_>	i did not know about the au option
Apr 02 19:03:49 <dub>	its new
Apr 02 19:04:11 <KRS1>	sup mjr
Apr 02 19:04:12 <dub>	or at least recently upgraded
Apr 02 19:04:17 <mjr_>	chilling chilling
Apr 02 19:04:21 <KRS1>	word
Apr 02 19:04:27 <mjr_>	had some really good meetings today
Apr 02 19:04:32 <KRS1>	=D
Apr 02 19:04:41 <KRS1>	thats gold when you have management buy-in
Apr 02 19:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha nanotube
Apr 02 19:07:13 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: :)
Apr 02 19:07:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0048 = 0.024 BTC [+]
Apr 02 19:07:48 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: i've got all the planets and other major solar system features all set out, too.
Apr 02 19:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	i had no idea the sun is so fat
Apr 02 19:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	that light takes 20 seconds to go through it.
Apr 02 19:08:50 <jurov>	hope we won't reach Eris/Dysnomia someday
Apr 02 19:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	are you sure on the math of that ?
Apr 02 19:09:21 <Bugpowder_>	OMG
Apr 02 19:09:25 <Bugpowder_>	hilarous
Apr 02 19:09:42 <jurov>	light actually goes millions of years through it
Apr 02 19:10:03 <jurov>	cuz it's so hot and dense in th emiddle
Apr 02 19:10:09 <Bugpowder_>	takes about 8 minutes for light to make it to earth
Apr 02 19:10:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.000698 = 0.0042 BTC [+]
Apr 02 19:10:37 <Bugpowder_>	I have seen it over 1 AU
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Apr 02 19:11:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 745 @ 0.00067888 = 0.5058 BTC [-]
Apr 02 19:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00067413 = 0.8764 BTC [-]
Apr 02 19:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00067362 = 3.3681 BTC [-]
Apr 02 19:12:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1455 @ 0.00067351 = 0.98 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 19:13:22 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: heh actually, i should double check that.
Apr 02 19:13:30 <pgp>	the sun is opaque to light.  Photons do not traverse it below the photosphere...
Apr 02 19:14:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779 BTC [-]
Apr 02 19:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	well in a vacuum :p
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Apr 02 19:15:56 *	jurov going to sell again few btcs till tomorrow for daily bread... and some perks
Apr 02 19:16:12 <jurov>	what price should i set on bitstamp overnight?
Apr 02 19:17:06 <jurov>	let's shoot for 117
Apr 02 19:17:54 <pgp>	lol
Apr 02 19:18:11 <bitesak>	long distance shooting
Apr 02 19:18:28 <kakobrekla>	nah
Apr 02 19:18:29 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
Apr 02 19:18:34 <kakobrekla>	if 15 holds on gox
Apr 02 19:18:41 <kakobrekla>	17 will go
Apr 02 19:19:13 <Bugpowder_>	119.95
Apr 02 19:19:19 <dub>	thefuck ppc @ 0.00094989
Apr 02 19:19:22 <Bugpowder_>	to sell?
Apr 02 19:19:57 <jurov>	okay. i'll prolly go half 117, half 119.95
Apr 02 19:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	do like coinbase
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Apr 02 19:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	"at some price"
Apr 02 19:20:26 <Bugpowder_>	well 116.97
Apr 02 19:20:53 <Bugpowder_>	but 117 is probably gone before I finish dinner
Apr 02 19:25:54 <jurov>	so, cya tomorrow. at 120 :D
Apr 02 19:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 19:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2 BTC [-]
Apr 02 19:33:22 <mjr_>	pgp: hey there
Apr 02 19:34:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 19:34:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.01001, Best ask: 116.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 116.10000, 24 hour volume: 79534.66768249, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 116.40000, 24 hour vwap: 107.30148
Apr 02 19:40:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Apr 02 19:42:47 <dub>	;;goxlag --au
Apr 02 19:42:48 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 80.479728 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.161280473816 AU, which is closest to the distance between the Sun and edge of solar corona, 0.01 AU
Apr 02 19:44:54 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165350.0
Apr 02 19:44:55 <kakobrekla>	yay
Apr 02 19:46:55 <dub>	;;goxlag --au
Apr 02 19:46:56 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 126.458688 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.25342179485 AU, which is closest to the distance between the Sun and Mercury, 0.39 AU
Apr 02 19:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Apr 02 19:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.44 = 5.72 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 19:49:08 <kakobrekla>	!baselag
Apr 02 19:49:11 <assbot>	6 weeks.
Apr 02 19:49:21 <sedeki>	what's that?
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Apr 02 19:53:14 <Bugpowder>	thru 117 before my dinner order even showed up
Apr 02 19:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2 = 6 BTC [-]
Apr 02 19:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
Apr 02 19:55:10 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Apr 02 19:55:23 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: check how many shares of DMC are held in accounts that were never activated
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Apr 02 19:55:47 <Ukto>	hm?
Apr 02 19:55:50 <Ukto>	you can see that you know
Apr 02 19:55:53 <Ukto>	from the glbse page :)
Apr 02 19:55:54 <Diablo-D3>	I can?
Apr 02 19:56:07 <Ukto>	first off
Apr 02 19:56:16 <Ukto>	held shares in bf accounts + claim accounts = total issued
Apr 02 19:56:46 <Ukto>	which you are somehow a few over
Apr 02 19:56:55 <Ukto>	er nm
Apr 02 19:56:56 <Ukto>	you are under
Apr 02 19:57:03 <Diablo-D3>	er, what glbse page?
Apr 02 19:57:13 <Ukto>	10,773 total issued between bf accounts and glbse claims of 11,579 max
Apr 02 19:57:28 <Ukto>	under issuer -> 'Manage GLBSE Claims'
Apr 02 19:57:33 <mircea_popescu>	o.o
Apr 02 19:58:14 <kakobrekla>	glbse 4ever!
Apr 02 19:58:20 <Ukto>	lol
Apr 02 19:58:21 <kakobrekla>	i wanna tshirt like that
Apr 02 19:58:36 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: that number doesnt work because 10773 is the number of shares after Ive bought them back
Apr 02 19:59:03 <Ukto>	then whats wrong ?
Apr 02 19:59:07 <Ukto>	thats how many are left
Apr 02 19:59:16 <Ukto>	the 11,579 is the max your asset can have.
Apr 02 19:59:22 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto: I want to know how many shares are in accounts that were never activated
Apr 02 19:59:24 <Ukto>	just a limit number
Apr 02 19:59:31 <Diablo-D3>	according to that number ALL accounts were activated
Apr 02 19:59:36 <Diablo-D3>	which I know is false
Apr 02 19:59:38 <Ukto>	theres no total field in the glbse page?
Apr 02 19:59:41 <Ukto>	thought i had one
Apr 02 19:59:42 <Ukto>	1 sec
Apr 02 19:59:43 <Ukto>	i will cehck
Apr 02 20:00:25 <Diablo-D3>	the glbse lists unclaimed accounts
Apr 02 20:00:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P086T] 2 @ 0.05902249 = 0.118 BTC [-]
Apr 02 20:00:56 <Diablo-D3>	er, the glbse page
Apr 02 20:01:24 <Ukto>	looks like 2,154 unclaimed shares
Apr 02 20:03:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7792 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:03:12 <Ukto>	so out of 10,733 shares, 2,154 are unclaimed
Apr 02 20:03:26 <Diablo-D3>	hrm I think Im going to make an announcement then
Apr 02 20:03:33 <Ukto>	oh boy here it comes!
Apr 02 20:03:34 <Ukto>	:P
Apr 02 20:03:38 <Diablo-D3>	90 days to activate your account, or the shares will revert to DMC ownership
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Apr 02 20:03:50 <Ukto>	yup, saw that commin :P
Apr 02 20:03:52 <dub>	scammer
Apr 02 20:03:58 <Ukto>	and that
Apr 02 20:06:09 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 02 20:06:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 20:06:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.62000, Best ask: 117.63709, Bid-ask spread: 0.01709, Last trade: 117.62000, 24 hour volume: 81308.33585058, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 118.36000, 24 hour vwap: 107.65591
Apr 02 20:06:37 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 119.9
Apr 02 20:06:38 <gribble>	There are currently 3243.7238 bitcoins offered at or under 119.9 USD, worth 386165.453059 USD in total. | Data vintage: 110.3662 seconds
Apr 02 20:06:39 <burnside>	send an email out to everyone that hasn't claimed.
Apr 02 20:06:53 <burnside>	simpe enough
Apr 02 20:06:58 <burnside>	[simple]
Apr 02 20:07:10 <ThickAsThieves>	plz email me with how to claim some shares
Apr 02 20:07:12 <ThickAsThieves>	sounds fun
Apr 02 20:07:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00176 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:07:24 <ThickAsThieves>	$email
Apr 02 20:07:26 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: To sign up for this service, contact smickles. Cost will be 0.01 BTC.
Apr 02 20:07:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 49 @ 0.00177 = 0.0867 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:07:38 <dub>	as simple as creating 12 new accounts on varios websites
Apr 02 20:08:07 <dub>	and submitting a sperm sample to Ukto
Apr 02 20:09:00 <dub>	which is why Luke-Jr cannot claim, every sperm is sacred
Apr 02 20:09:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.000698 = 0.0175 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:09:30 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 02 20:10:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00394 = 0.0118 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:11:10 <Ukto>	burnside: I send out an email every other week or so
Apr 02 20:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068135 = 3.4068 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:12:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00068136 = 4.5992 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:12:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000698 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 20:13:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.004 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Apr 02 20:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.004 = 0.012 BTC [-]
Apr 02 20:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 811 @ 0.0036201 = 2.9359 BTC [-]
Apr 02 20:13:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00360001 = 7.2 BTC [-]
Apr 02 20:13:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00335565 = 5.0335 BTC [-]
Apr 02 20:13:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00320001 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Apr 02 20:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4286 @ 0.00310001 = 13.2866 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 20:21:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00068136 = 5.6212 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:21:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00068141 = 12.4357 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 20:27:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3506 @ 0.00068141 = 2.389 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 20:38:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7795 = 2.3385 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:38:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7795 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:38:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 28 @ 0.779997 = 21.8399 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 2 = 14 BTC [-]
Apr 02 20:42:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.002999 = 0.012 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:45:10 <Diablo-D3>	you know what I find fucking hilarious?
Apr 02 20:45:13 <Diablo-D3>	luke only has 4 shares.
Apr 02 20:46:04 <ThickAsThieves>	after all his whining...
Apr 02 20:46:16 <nanotube>	mircea_popescu: re: sun - the solar radius is about .005 AU, and the coronal edge is about 2 solar radii away from sun surface, according to my googling. so .01 AU for light to get from photosphere to coronal edge.
Apr 02 20:46:42 <mircea_popescu>	i gueess im not up to speed on all the coronal edging
Apr 02 20:47:28 <nanotube>	heh well, it's not particularly well defined or particularly smooth... but it was a good enough number to use as the 'closest thing to the sun other than mercury :)
Apr 02 20:47:39 <nanotube>	because saying 'mercury' every time it's 0 would be silly.
Apr 02 20:48:22 <nanotube>	mercury is about 200 light-seconds away from the sun.
Apr 02 20:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	well if "mthox lag < 200 seconds" = 0
Apr 02 20:48:39 <mircea_popescu>	we got problems
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Apr 02 20:49:19 <nanotube>	hehe well, it does 'closest object'. and there's really nothing between coronal edge (.01 au) and mercury (.39 au)
Apr 02 20:49:32 <nanotube>	so until it gets to like .2 au, closest thing will be .01
Apr 02 20:50:08 <nanotube>	there are random asteroids and stuff, but they are small enough that they don't even have real names. :P
Apr 02 20:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	actually there's very good reason for the gap
Apr 02 20:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	as in, accretion
Apr 02 20:50:32 <nanotube>	well, reason or no reason, fact remains, there are no intermediate 'points of interest' :)
Apr 02 20:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	ye
Apr 02 20:50:50 <nanotube>	;;goxlag --au
Apr 02 20:50:50 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 46.972662 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0941326887159 AU, which is closest to the distance between the Sun and edge of solar corona, 0.01 AU
Apr 02 20:51:08 <nanotube>	i guess we can all root for goxlag to get to mercury :)
Apr 02 20:51:12 <mircea_popescu>	so basically instead of mercury all the time which is silly
Apr 02 20:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	we get solar corona all the time which is silly
Apr 02 20:51:23 <mircea_popescu>	this improvement!
Apr 02 20:51:26 <nanotube>	hehe less silly than mercury.
Apr 02 20:51:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 10 @ 0.26910162 = 2.691 BTC [+]
Apr 02 20:52:31 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 02 20:52:32 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 107.73
Apr 02 20:52:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 20:52:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.80001, Best ask: 117.84400, Bid-ask spread: 0.04399, Last trade: 117.84400, 24 hour volume: 82099.72128991, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 118.36000, 24 hour vwap: 107.92214
Apr 02 20:52:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 02 20:52:41 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds.
Apr 02 20:52:50 <ThickAsThieves>	!
Apr 02 20:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/353/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-1000/
Apr 02 20:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	that's an interesting one.
Apr 02 20:53:58 <ThickAsThieves>	if it does, i wont need to be making bitbets
Apr 02 20:54:00 <thestringpuller>	popescu
Apr 02 20:54:04 <thestringpuller>	thank you
Apr 02 20:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	yw.
Apr 02 20:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	what for ?
Apr 02 20:55:08 <thestringpuller>	you know
Apr 02 20:55:33 <burnside>	<Ukto> burnside: I send out an email every other week or so  >> awesome.  that's about all you can do then.
Apr 02 20:56:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 02 20:56:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.00000, Best ask: 117.59822, Bid-ask spread: 0.59822, Last trade: 117.00000, 24 hour volume: 82038.36838155, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 118.36000, 24 hour vwap: 107.93612
Apr 02 20:56:32 <ThickAsThieves>	http://bitbet.us/bet/356/a-third-competitor-company-to-bfl-and-avalon/   Isn't Asicminer already making plans?
Apr 02 20:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	ya well plans.
Apr 02 20:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	iirc they were making plans to have 12th online in january, still ain't happened.
Apr 02 20:57:56 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
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Apr 02 21:02:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
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Apr 02 21:02:58 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229396 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 427 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 8 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7752366.26707 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.77908
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Apr 02 21:03:57 <Bugpowder>	every time I think of buying more calls I look at them and say DAMN they are expensive
Apr 02 21:04:50 <sedeki>	has anyone done algorithmic trading on mtgox?
Apr 02 21:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C092T] 20 @ 0.32061935 = 6.4124 BTC [+]
Apr 02 21:07:00 <dub>	there is a fair amount of crazy around
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Apr 02 21:07:14 <dub>	even solidcoin is going up
Apr 02 21:07:20 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Apr 02 21:07:54 <dub>	pp is up 550% since yesterday
Apr 02 21:08:15 <kakobrekla>	o_O
Apr 02 21:08:43 <Bugpowder>	https://apps.facebook.com/bitcoin-tx/
Apr 02 21:08:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C119T] 35 @ 0.19090837 = 6.6818 BTC
Apr 02 21:08:53 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin tip app for facebook looks like its happening
Apr 02 21:09:10 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 02 21:09:27 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin is about to go VIRAL!
Apr 02 21:09:40 <kakobrekla>	we had those before
Apr 02 21:09:46 <kakobrekla>	and they all sucked
Apr 02 21:09:54 <kakobrekla>	also crpyto ppl on fb? right.
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Apr 02 21:15:42 <dub>	I've seen a couple of disparate fb friends crapping on about bitcoin
Apr 02 21:16:21 <ThickAsThieves>	ive had like 1 person even Like/Comment on any of my bitcoin posts
Apr 02 21:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 335 @ 0.85561207 = 286.63 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:17:02 <ThickAsThieves>	a few days ago, I said "When I started sharing news about bitcoin, it was worth $20. Today it is worth $93."  Then I got responses.
Apr 02 21:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.40000001 = 14 BTC [+]
Apr 02 21:17:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 48 @ 0.4 = 19.2 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:17:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.398888 = 0.7978 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:17:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.39879999 = 1.1964 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:17:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.39879999 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	those puts got massacred.
Apr 02 21:17:34 <Bugpowder>	ah ohhhh
Apr 02 21:17:47 <Bugpowder>	it stopped working
Apr 02 21:17:56 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Apr 02 21:17:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.75001, Best ask: 118.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24999, Last trade: 118.00000, 24 hour volume: 81957.38870023, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 118.36000, 24 hour vwap: 108.12679
Apr 02 21:18:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 10000
Apr 02 21:18:35 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 1097486.2139 USD and would take the last price down to 105.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 109.7486 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Apr 02 21:18:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 15000
Apr 02 21:18:41 <gribble>	A market order to sell 15000 bitcoins right now would net 1608242.7036 USD and would take the last price down to 100.2146 USD, resulting in an average price of 107.2162 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 6.0775 seconds
Apr 02 21:18:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 25000
Apr 02 21:18:49 <gribble>	A market order to sell 25000 bitcoins right now would net 2577154.7109 USD and would take the last price down to 93.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 103.0862 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 13.9036 seconds
Apr 02 21:19:09 <ThickAsThieves>	needs a lotta bitcoins to fill those puts
Apr 02 21:25:11 <unbalanced__>	There's no "naked short selling" in BTC-land, is there?
Apr 02 21:25:19 <Diablo-D3>	no
Apr 02 21:25:24 <Diablo-D3>	theres no shorting at all
Apr 02 21:25:32 <Diablo-D3>	you can either go long, or buy USD.
Apr 02 21:25:51 <unbalanced__>	Right, I should have spoken in terms of puts/calls.
Apr 02 21:26:07 <unbalanced__>	So if someone wants to bet on a down draft, they could buy puts.
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Apr 02 21:26:38 <mircea_popescu>	you could buy puts or write calls
Apr 02 21:26:46 <mircea_popescu>	but you will have to cover the calls you write.
Apr 02 21:27:18 <unbalanced__>	Do I buy the puts with BTC? So even if the puts do well, they're just a hedge on my BTC losses?
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Apr 02 21:27:38 <mircea_popescu>	you buy the puts with btc yea
Apr 02 21:28:08 <mircea_popescu>	not sure what you mean by just a hedge.
Apr 02 21:28:37 <unbalanced__>	Ah, imagine an extreme case of putting all your BTC into puts.
Apr 02 21:28:44 <Bugpowder>	I did that
Apr 02 21:28:49 <Bugpowder>	well 30%
Apr 02 21:28:54 <Bugpowder>	it was a major mistake
Apr 02 21:28:59 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced__ yea ?
Apr 02 21:29:20 <unbalanced__>	BTC goes down... the puts go up... but they're denominated in BTC. So it's a wash. Or at least the river meeting the ocean?
Apr 02 21:29:29 <mircea_popescu>	its not a wash by any means
Apr 02 21:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	you buy 1k puts struck at 100. these cost you .1 each, so you pay 100 btc
Apr 02 21:30:01 <mircea_popescu>	price goes to 50. your puts are now worth 2k btc. you've made 20x
Apr 02 21:30:05 <Bugpowder>	oh its not a wash at all
Apr 02 21:30:24 <Bugpowder>	You can basically hedge your position
Apr 02 21:30:29 <Bugpowder>	in fiat terms
Apr 02 21:30:35 <Bugpowder>	by buying around 20% of your nut in puts
Apr 02 21:30:38 <Bugpowder>	or less
Apr 02 21:30:48 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. if you go over that you're basically leveraging into a short.
Apr 02 21:31:03 <Bugpowder>	yeahe
Apr 02 21:31:06 <unbalanced__>	Thanx guise.
Apr 02 21:31:33 <unbalanced__>	Since I'm long BTC and crazy bullish, and aim to buy calls soon, I was just trying to suss out, how loaded would a whale have to be to turn this bull run around?
Apr 02 21:31:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00177 BTC [+]
Apr 02 21:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	a whale doesn't have any particular interest in fighting the tape.
Apr 02 21:32:21 <unbalanced__>	Exactly... I can't see who in BTC land would have any interest in seeing it go down.
Apr 02 21:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	not exactly what i said.
Apr 02 21:32:33 <unbalanced__>	Other than maybe you as a call writer.
Apr 02 21:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	ian bakewell!
Apr 02 21:33:21 <unbalanced__>	It's easy in stocks for dozens of hedge funds to beat a stock price into the ground to accumulate more, if naked short selling is allowed in those markets. Here it's a lot harder to rein in a bull run, no?
Apr 02 21:33:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C122T] 20 @ 0.18087035 = 3.6174 BTC
Apr 02 21:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, mtgox/cointards are doing a pretty darn good job of it
Apr 02 21:35:00 <Bugpowder>	BAKEWELL.... when good cointards go bad.
Apr 02 21:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, im off. gl all.
Apr 02 21:35:12 <unbalanced__>	you too
Apr 02 21:35:15 <unbalanced__>	thanks
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Apr 02 21:45:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.152 = 0.456 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:45:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15199 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:45:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:45:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.15 = 0.45 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:45:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.143 = 0.286 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.475 = 2.85 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 21:49:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.779995 = 3.9 BTC [-]
Apr 02 21:49:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.779997 = 1.56 BTC [+]
Apr 02 21:49:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.779998 = 3.9 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 21:57:27 <Bugpowder>	`yeah
Apr 02 21:57:30 <Bugpowder>	there we go
Apr 02 21:57:37 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 21:57:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 115.31111, Best ask: 117.98000, Bid-ask spread: 2.66889, Last trade: 117.98999, 24 hour volume: 82680.35296996, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 118.38750, 24 hour vwap: 108.34379
Apr 02 21:57:39 <Bugpowder>	1000 BTC loser
Apr 02 21:57:52 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 02 21:58:13 <ThickAsThieves>	are you talking to tiberius again?
Apr 02 21:58:23 <Bugpowder>	nah the dude that dumped
Apr 02 21:58:33 <Bugpowder>	he is more of a 30BTC millionaire
Apr 02 21:59:07 <Bugpowder>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=30k%20millionaire
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Apr 02 21:59:32 <Bugpowder>	Although that may have a new definition soon, given MPEX's 30BTC account fee.
Apr 02 21:59:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 12 @ 0.0048 = 0.0576 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 22:01:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:04:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 113 @ 0.0048 = 0.5424 BTC [+]
Apr 02 22:06:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19997 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:06:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 9 @ 0.2 = 1.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 22:15:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 22:15:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.98898, Best ask: 118.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01102, Last trade: 117.98898, 24 hour volume: 83394.73429239, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 118.38750, 24 hour vwap: 108.50368
Apr 02 22:15:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 119.84
Apr 02 22:15:28 <gribble>	There are currently 1605.4712 bitcoins offered at or under 119.84 USD, worth 191201.218711 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds
Apr 02 22:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.441 = 6.615 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.44 = 3.96 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:16:37 <mjr_home>	120 anytime now
Apr 02 22:17:06 <Namworld>	$.$
Apr 02 22:17:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 22:20:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 50 @ 0.0028 = 0.14 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:20:18 <Bugpowder>	$119.43
Apr 02 22:20:42 <ThickAsThieves>	oh dang
Apr 02 22:25:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1500 @ 0.0022 = 3.3 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:26:36 <Bugpowder>	I told jurov to put it at 119.95
Apr 02 22:26:59 <mjr_home>	lol
Apr 02 22:27:09 <mjr_home>	those 188 calls are looking good right now i think
Apr 02 22:27:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 582 @ 0.0022 = 1.2804 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:27:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77999 BTC [+]
Apr 02 22:28:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779998 BTC [+]
Apr 02 22:30:48 <Bugpowder>	strike/
Apr 02 22:30:49 <Bugpowder>	?
Apr 02 22:31:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P098T] 1 @ 0.17062532 BTC
Apr 02 22:31:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.39493 BTC [+]
Apr 02 22:31:20 <Bugpowder>	I wish I had more
Apr 02 22:31:27 <Bugpowder>	I limited myself to 10% of capital
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Apr 02 22:34:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.371 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 22:35:48 <lololo>	;;ticker
Apr 02 22:35:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.67601, Best ask: 119.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.82398, Last trade: 118.67511, 24 hour volume: 84741.59159120, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 119.86999, 24 hour vwap: 108.84842
Apr 02 22:37:59 <Diablo-D3>	LOL
Apr 02 22:37:59 <Diablo-D3>	bakewell defaulted?
Apr 02 22:39:29 <lololo>	ian loanwell?
Apr 02 22:40:08 <Namworld>	How unastonishing...
Apr 02 22:40:45 <lololo>	Last Active:	April 01, 2013, 10:20:28 PM
Apr 02 22:42:20 <unbalanced__>	Bugpowder, do you have a BTC site/service/biz like most here or do you stick to the trading?
Apr 02 22:42:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 275 @ 0.0044 = 1.21 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:42:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00431 = 0.0862 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:43:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 400 @ 0.00426 = 1.704 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 22:44:27 <unbalanced_>	Seem to have had some turbulence there
Apr 02 22:45:32 <ThickAsThieves>	here comes 120
Apr 02 22:45:54 <ThickAsThieves>	fucking amazing
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Apr 02 22:47:08 <ThickAsThieves>	120
Apr 02 22:47:23 <ThickAsThieves>	123 shortly
Apr 02 22:48:01 <Namworld>	we're headed to 1000 or what?
Apr 02 22:48:12 <dub>	$2
Apr 02 22:48:21 <Namworld>	That's more like it
Apr 02 22:48:23 <troc_>	eaten too
Apr 02 22:48:33 <taub>	oh crap sierra chart bridge stoppeed working for the live data
Apr 02 22:49:03 <mod6>	wow 121
Apr 02 22:49:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00393 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:49:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 17 @ 0.00394 = 0.067 BTC [+]
Apr 02 22:50:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 452 @ 0.00395 = 1.7854 BTC [+]
Apr 02 22:50:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 225 @ 0.00397 = 0.8933 BTC [+]
Apr 02 22:50:34 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 02 22:50:36 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 108.84
Apr 02 22:50:42 <lololo>	wall got goxed
Apr 02 22:51:22 <ThickAsThieves>	cmon optobot
Apr 02 22:51:23 <troc_>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 22:51:23 <gribble>	There are currently 30925622 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10282959.3978 USD in total. | Data vintage: 101.5616 seconds
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Apr 02 22:51:40 <B0g4r7>	Well look at that, Bets of Bitcoin is cheating me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163261.msg1726858#msg1726858
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Apr 02 22:51:49 <Bugpowder>	122
Apr 02 22:52:52 <deadweasel>	B0g4r7: sounds like they are refunded your money
Apr 02 22:52:56 <deadweasel>	not cheating you
Apr 02 22:53:16 <B0g4r7>	Cheating me on a bet I won fair and square.
Apr 02 22:53:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C131T] 4 @ 0.15490841 = 0.6196 BTC
Apr 02 22:53:44 <deadweasel>	i'm not gonna judge your bet, but you didn't lose any money.
Apr 02 22:53:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0041 = 0.082 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 22:54:13 <deadweasel>	so go bet on something else and win that one instead.  that's why i bet on bitbet.us  :D
Apr 02 22:54:16 <mod6>	;;goxlag
Apr 02 22:54:16 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 155.99665 seconds.
Apr 02 22:54:26 <B0g4r7>	They solicited feedback for some reason, feedback was overwhelmingly in favor of the proper outcome, and they then ignored it.
Apr 02 22:54:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00426 = 0.0852 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:54:39 <deadweasel>	they did that to make you feel good.
Apr 02 22:54:48 <B0g4r7>	ya rly.  I sure won't be using Bets of Bitcoin no more.
Apr 02 22:54:49 <deadweasel>	you should thank them for their sensitivity to your emotions.
Apr 02 22:54:57 <deadweasel>	which is what betting is.  move on the next profitable statement.
Apr 02 22:55:00 <B0g4r7>	Make themselves look bad is what they did.
Apr 02 22:55:11 <mod6>	yeah bets of bitcoin sucks
Apr 02 22:55:24 <B0g4r7>	I think they should get a scammer tag.
Apr 02 22:55:25 <ThickAsThieves>	so as the bet host, they can bet on anything ambiguous and take it back if they are wrong
Apr 02 22:55:27 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Apr 02 22:55:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 52 @ 0.00418 = 0.2174 BTC [+]
Apr 02 22:55:44 <deadweasel>	well, how would you run it if it were your business?
Apr 02 22:55:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 52 @ 0.00426 = 0.2215 BTC [-]
Apr 02 22:56:05 <B0g4r7>	The outcome of that bet was pretty clear, as was supported by the feedback they solicited.
Apr 02 22:56:19 <deadweasel>	btw, businesses who sell stock on the NYSE...  it is illegal to do anything that would adversely affect the price of the stock.
Apr 02 22:56:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 22:56:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 02 22:56:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.23000, Best ask: 121.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.47000, Last trade: 122.77000, 24 hour volume: 85968.70952833, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 121.15890, 24 hour vwap: 109.08360
Apr 02 22:56:46 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 215.190509 seconds.
Apr 02 22:56:49 <ThickAsThieves>	!
Apr 02 22:56:52 <deadweasel>	;;seen jesus
Apr 02 22:56:52 <gribble>	jesus was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 31 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: * Jesus has no fear
Apr 02 22:57:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen fatladysing
Apr 02 22:57:03 <gribble>	I have not seen fatladysing.
Apr 02 22:57:07 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 02 22:57:29 <deadweasel>	fatla is dysing?  oh crap!
Apr 02 22:57:47 <deadweasel>	you should see her, she's crunk.
Apr 02 22:58:05 <B0g4r7>	Fuck BoB.
Apr 02 22:58:15 <B0g4r7>	OK I'm done.
Apr 02 22:58:18 <deadweasel>	^agreed
Apr 02 22:58:24 <B0g4r7>	</butthurt>
Apr 02 22:58:25 <B0g4r7>	
Apr 02 22:58:40 <deadweasel>	s'ok, you didn't LOSE money which is constantly rising in value.
Apr 02 22:58:45 <deadweasel>	they coulda voted against you.
Apr 02 22:58:54 <deadweasel>	life is good
Apr 02 22:59:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen the rain
Apr 02 22:59:04 <gribble>	(seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
Apr 02 22:59:08 <ThickAsThieves>	rats
Apr 02 22:59:10 <deadweasel>	lol
Apr 02 22:59:54 <B0g4r7>	They could have just kept all the coins too I suppose.
Apr 02 23:00:12 <deadweasel>	exactly.  now you get it.
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Apr 02 23:00:22 <deadweasel>	you sent'em, they came back, that's a fucking win
Apr 02 23:00:55 <deadweasel>	i need more bourbon, stupid teenage martial artists sprained my wrist tonight.  brb.
Apr 02 23:01:03 <B0g4r7>	Yeah.
Apr 02 23:01:44 <Bugpowder>	If any of y'all have coins in MPEX that you haven't put into calls yet, you might want to consider doing it now.
Apr 02 23:01:55 <B0g4r7>	Came back at 10x their value vs when I sent them.
Apr 02 23:02:47 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 23:02:49 <gribble>	There are currently 30924655 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10220577.0775 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0111 seconds
Apr 02 23:02:53 <B0g4r7>	Still, I'm hoping to encourage MPOE-PR to lay some of that masterful scorn upon BoB in the thread.
Apr 02 23:02:57 <Bugpowder>	123
Apr 02 23:03:04 <Bugpowder>	fuck i need more
Apr 02 23:03:04 <deadweasel>	5 mill is missing since this morning.
Apr 02 23:03:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i have 259 calls
Apr 02 23:03:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm in profit zone starting at 135
Apr 02 23:03:43 <B0g4r7>	mircea_popescu ^
Apr 02 23:04:10 <bgupta>	holy %^&*
Apr 02 23:04:15 <bgupta>	fast and furious
Apr 02 23:04:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C158T] 10 @ 0.09535103 = 0.9535 BTC
Apr 02 23:05:19 <ThickAsThieves>	123
Apr 02 23:06:16 <deadweasel>	i wish i could successfully buy that shite w/out passthrough and 30btc+ admission fee.
Apr 02 23:06:20 <Bugpowder>	124
Apr 02 23:06:26 <Bugpowder>	coinbr
Apr 02 23:06:39 <ThickAsThieves>	https://coinbr.com/ref?c=Q9gPSuUvYS
Apr 02 23:06:48 <ThickAsThieves>	be my seconf referral today plz
Apr 02 23:06:50 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 02 23:07:03 <lololo>	1$/min up from now on ^^^
Apr 02 23:07:15 <Bugpowder>	I might fastcash4bitcoins another 10k out right here.
Apr 02 23:07:18 <deadweasel>	ThickAsThieves, bug already rode that train.
Apr 02 23:07:20 <deadweasel>	on me
Apr 02 23:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C131T] 1 @ 0.15539036 BTC [+]
Apr 02 23:07:59 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Apr 02 23:08:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm a happy customer
Apr 02 23:08:16 <ThickAsThieves>	only complaint is taht sometimes jurov sleeps
Apr 02 23:11:08 <ThickAsThieves>	124
Apr 02 23:11:14 <ThickAsThieves>	oh you said that
Apr 02 23:11:18 <deadweasel>	sleeping is not alloed!
Apr 02 23:11:21 <deadweasel>	+w
Apr 02 23:11:29 <deadweasel>	:)
Apr 02 23:11:40 <lololo>	chinese goxer buyin for 124 and sellin for 144 at btchina^^
Apr 02 23:12:00 <deadweasel>	arbi-awesome
Apr 02 23:12:18 <deadweasel>	ThickAsThieves: he flushed my btc before crashing, good on him.
Apr 02 23:12:44 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah he's been really good
Apr 02 23:12:59 <deadweasel>	now i'm buying all the calls, but only some of them are for sale on coinbr...
Apr 02 23:13:11 <deadweasel>	no worries
Apr 02 23:14:17 <deadweasel>	lololo: how you know he's chinese?
Apr 02 23:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C119T] 5 @ 0.19559214 = 0.978 BTC [+]
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Apr 02 23:19:00 <Bugpowder>	where is the dump?
Apr 02 23:19:27 <deadweasel>	lol, i see 123 on a tues night!
Apr 02 23:19:29 <deadweasel>	:)
Apr 02 23:19:32 <ThickAsThieves>	on my chest
Apr 02 23:20:01 <deadweasel>	ThickAsThieves: you dirty scatfart!
Apr 02 23:20:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen anygoodmovieslately
Apr 02 23:20:01 <gribble>	I have not seen anygoodmovieslately.
Apr 02 23:20:17 <deadweasel>	lolshitturds, i need sleep and an xray
Apr 02 23:21:22 <ThickAsThieves>	its not even morning tomorrow yet
Apr 02 23:21:31 <deadweasel>	no shit
Apr 02 23:21:32 <ThickAsThieves>	up again in 2 hours?
Apr 02 23:21:41 <deadweasel>	no way, 11.21 where i'm at
Apr 02 23:21:43 <deadweasel>	you?
Apr 02 23:21:49 <ThickAsThieves>	same
Apr 02 23:21:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i just mean in the east
Apr 02 23:22:02 <ThickAsThieves>	its not even morning yet
Apr 02 23:22:18 <deadweasel>	i know, i'm waiting til morning for xray cos I don't know what insurance covers for emergency room.
Apr 02 23:22:31 <lololo>	125
Apr 02 23:22:32 <deadweasel>	so, i wait, with 1.5L bourbon
Apr 02 23:22:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3899 BTC [+]
Apr 02 23:22:44 <ThickAsThieves>	124.99999
Apr 02 23:22:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;)
Apr 02 23:23:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 135
Apr 02 23:23:06 <gribble>	There are currently 6345.3387 bitcoins offered at or under 135.0 USD, worth 823150.157088 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.2079 seconds
Apr 02 23:23:17 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 23:23:17 <gribble>	There are currently 30925561 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10178152.7153 USD in total. | Data vintage: 56.0532 seconds
Apr 02 23:24:03 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug did you buy in? i didnt see any 1000 @ notifications
Apr 02 23:24:17 <thestringpuller>	Bug waits until
Apr 02 23:24:20 <thestringpuller>	the last minute
Apr 02 23:24:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 7 @ 0.000618 = 0.0043 BTC [-]
Apr 02 23:24:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000618 = 0.0062 BTC [-]
Apr 02 23:24:34 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 02 23:24:35 <thestringpuller>	!ticker S.MPOE
Apr 02 23:24:35 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 109.32
Apr 02 23:24:36 <assbot>	I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
Apr 02 23:24:43 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Apr 02 23:24:45 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00060272 / 0.00066158 / 0.00068141 (244436 shares, 161.72 BTC), 7D: 0.00059218 / 0.00065336 / 0.00068374 (2583793 shares, 1,688.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00072401 / 0.00078628 (18161718 shares, 13,149.40 BTC)
Apr 02 23:24:56 <thestringpuller>	!ticker H HIM
Apr 02 23:24:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.00000000 / 2.00366667 / 2.04400000 (12 shares, 24.04400000 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.92448217 / 2.08000000 (157 shares, 302.14369996 BTC), 30D: 1.40001001 / 1.79998835 / 2.08000000 (725 shares, 1304.99155265 BTC)
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Apr 02 23:25:42 <lololo>	goat inb4 another forum ban? ^^
Apr 02 23:26:38 <ThickAsThieves>	where is Chaang anyway?
Apr 02 23:27:48 <toffoo>	on the new gold plated yacht ?
Apr 02 23:28:07 <ColdHardMetal>	neck deep in hookers and heroin.
Apr 02 23:28:32 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc babes
Apr 02 23:29:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 100000
Apr 02 23:29:20 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7893282.3901 USD and would take the last price down to 39.1500 USD, resulting in an average price of 78.9328 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 91.1040 seconds
Apr 02 23:29:30 <ThickAsThieves>	sorry guys gotta do it!
Apr 02 23:30:04 <Bugpowder>	so much for 125
Apr 02 23:30:16 <deadweasel>	ThickAsThieves: don't be sorry, we need sobering facts.
Apr 02 23:30:30 <taub>	big exhaustion bar now?
Apr 02 23:30:46 <ThickAsThieves>	thats what we would lose if MP decided to buy puts and sell 100k btc
Apr 02 23:30:52 <troc_>	;;bids 0
Apr 02 23:30:57 <gribble>	There are currently 31182773 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10092686.2361 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0100 seconds
Apr 02 23:31:09 <cole_albon>	I sold at 123 leaving the final couple of points for the next guy - just like the Rothschilds
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Apr 02 23:31:29 <taub>	:)
Apr 02 23:31:40 <ThickAsThieves>	but Mike Pento is buying now
Apr 02 23:31:48 <ThickAsThieves>	Mike Pentos all over the country
Apr 02 23:31:58 <ThickAsThieves>	want to buy bitcoins for 200
Apr 02 23:32:01 <deadweasel>	you want a mentos?
Apr 02 23:32:12 <ThickAsThieves>	the fresh maker?
Apr 02 23:32:17 <ThickAsThieves>	127
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Apr 02 23:32:24 <taub>	whos MP
Apr 02 23:32:24 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 02 23:32:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.42500, Best ask: 127.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.57500, Last trade: 127.00000, 24 hour volume: 88123.36099234, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 125.12500, 24 hour vwap: 109.83529
Apr 02 23:32:30 <deadweasel>	your mum taub
Apr 02 23:32:37 <taub>	this lag is nice eh
Apr 02 23:32:40 <ThickAsThieves>	mircea puffnstuff
Apr 02 23:32:54 <ThickAsThieves>	cole_albon how mant btc did you sell at 123
Apr 02 23:33:09 <cole_albon>	50
Apr 02 23:33:12 <taub>	it's stretching for 130
Apr 02 23:33:20 <ThickAsThieves>	so youve lost $150 so far
Apr 02 23:33:24 <deadweasel>	omg buy my fuckin options coinbr twatbrains
Apr 02 23:33:26 <Bugpowder>	fastcash4bitcoins
Apr 02 23:33:27 <deadweasel>	pardon me
Apr 02 23:33:33 <deadweasel>	turretts
Apr 02 23:33:34 <Bugpowder>	needs to catch da fuck up
Apr 02 23:33:51 <cole_albon>	nope - 250
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Apr 02 23:34:13 <Bugpowder>	he MADE money
Apr 02 23:34:18 <Bugpowder>	cashing out is not losing money
Apr 02 23:34:22 <ThickAsThieves>	sorry i thought you said 124
Apr 02 23:34:30 <ThickAsThieves>	well
Apr 02 23:34:36 <ThickAsThieves>	if you wanna be realistic about it
Apr 02 23:34:38 <ThickAsThieves>	sure
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Apr 02 23:34:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 02 23:34:59 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds.
Apr 02 23:35:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 02 23:35:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.20000, Best ask: 126.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 126.20000, 24 hour volume: 88556.54327140, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 127.18670, 24 hour vwap: 109.92792
Apr 02 23:35:43 <taub>	selling at new highs is smarter than buying
Apr 02 23:36:24 <copumpkin>	so you sold at 33?
Apr 02 23:36:34 <cole_albon>	not cashing out for good, just trying to time it.  I've been sitting tight since under $7 and starting to try moving in and out a bit more.
Apr 02 23:37:40 <ThickAsThieves>	sell high, buy higher?
Apr 02 23:38:38 <toffoo>	i've done that at least twice today
Apr 02 23:38:55 <Bugpowder>	cashed another 2 wire out
Apr 02 23:38:59 <ThickAsThieves>	falling
Apr 02 23:39:00 <cole_albon>	yeah I get that thickasthieves.  I made this decision this morning when I saw the bitcoin headline on some business channel at my office today.
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Apr 02 23:39:01 <taub>	i trtied fishing for a ahigh ~ 93
Apr 02 23:39:06 <taub>	not since then
Apr 02 23:39:08 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Apr 02 23:39:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.97500, Best ask: 123.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02500, Last trade: 123.00000, 24 hour volume: 89108.93463991, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 127.18670, 24 hour vwap: 110.02889
Apr 02 23:39:10 <taub>	trend is just way too strong
Apr 02 23:39:52 <lololo>	just the normal rollercoaster
Apr 02 23:40:04 <Bugpowder>	that was the top for today
Apr 02 23:40:20 <Bugpowder>	get out now if you can
Apr 02 23:40:23 <Bugpowder>	if you are daytrading
Apr 02 23:40:35 <Bugpowder>	otherwise hold
Apr 02 23:41:15 <taub>	too early to call it a high
Apr 02 23:41:21 <ThickAsThieves>	srsly
Apr 02 23:41:24 <bgupta>	Bugpowder: Curious what's the alternative to day trading?
Apr 02 23:41:26 <taub>	maybe if you are in america and the day isn't over ;)
Apr 02 23:41:54 <Bugpowder>	its a daily high
Apr 02 23:41:56 <ThickAsThieves>	china is like cockadoodledoo, lets buy some btc
Apr 02 23:41:57 <Bugpowder>	or nightly high
Apr 02 23:41:59 <Bugpowder>	I think
Apr 02 23:42:02 <taub>	but i agree it might go into  some congetstion between 125 and 117
Apr 02 23:42:04 <cole_albon>	It was one hell of a day I was glad to be in it.
Apr 02 23:42:10 <lololo>	gox still has to catch up
Apr 02 23:42:12 <Bugpowder>	its not a weekly high
Apr 02 23:42:16 <taub>	but could be just short pullback before going strong
Apr 02 23:42:22 <Bugpowder>	I locked fastcash4bitcoins at the very top
Apr 02 23:42:36 <Bugpowder>	of course, that means I sold for 123 but whateva
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Apr 02 23:44:39 <Bugpowder>	Don't want to keep the $ in gox for a month
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Apr 02 23:45:41 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 02 23:45:43 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 109.81
Apr 02 23:49:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 266 @ 0.00426 = 1.1332 BTC [-]
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Apr 02 23:52:24 <KRS1>	omg when is it gonna start going down
Apr 02 23:52:24 <Bugpowder>	bgupta: buy and hold
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Apr 02 23:53:01 <bgupta>	ah gotcha.. that would be me then
Apr 02 23:53:05 <bgupta>	(sorta)
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Apr 02 23:56:39 <ThickAsThieves>	do any of you watch ADX for bitcoin?
Apr 02 23:56:50 <ThickAsThieves>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg2ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zxzi1gADXzv
Apr 02 23:57:08 <Bugpowder>	explain it plz
Apr 02 23:57:43 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/adx.asp
Apr 02 23:57:59 <ThickAsThieves>	it is a trend meter
Apr 02 23:58:07 <Bugpowder>	ah
Apr 02 23:58:11 <ThickAsThieves>	can be somewhat predictive
Apr 02 23:58:24 <taub>	sierra bridge not working for anyone else?
Apr 02 23:59:09 <ColdHardMetal>	crapped out on me awhile ago.
Apr 02 23:59:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1045 BTC [+]
Apr 03 00:00:05 <taub>	k, it still downloads historical data
Apr 03 00:00:09 <taub>	but the telnet stream seems to be gone
Apr 03 00:00:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [+]
Apr 03 00:00:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 00:01:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 18 @ 0.009831 = 0.177 BTC [-]
Apr 03 00:01:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009831 BTC [-]
Apr 03 00:01:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 00:03:33 <Bugpowder>	told ya
Apr 03 00:03:53 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Apr 03 00:04:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779998 BTC [+]
Apr 03 00:04:15 <Bugpowder>	the funny thing is, it just keeps raising the 24hprc
Apr 03 00:04:40 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 00:04:41 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 110.20
Apr 03 00:05:10 <cole_albon>	what is that specifically?
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Apr 03 00:06:02 <cole_albon>	the avg thing
Apr 03 00:06:29 <Bugpowder>	so much for making a stand at 120
Apr 03 00:06:35 <Bugpowder>	110 seems likely though
Apr 03 00:06:41 <Bugpowder>	resistance i mean
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Apr 03 00:07:11 <Bugpowder>	I hope u ladies got out
Apr 03 00:07:30 <ThickAsThieves>	why sell so hard?
Apr 03 00:07:52 <Bugpowder>	Cause it went up 25% today???
Apr 03 00:07:59 <Bugpowder>	it might just be warming up
Apr 03 00:08:01 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 03 00:08:25 <ThickAsThieves>	ii'm tired but i wanna see what happens in a couple hours
Apr 03 00:08:27 <Bugpowder>	its still tuesday though
Apr 03 00:08:39 <Bugpowder>	so I expect it to continue up tomorrow.
Apr 03 00:08:42 <Bugpowder>	who know though
Apr 03 00:10:23 <deadweasel>	gnight
Apr 03 00:10:44 <Bugpowder>	later
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Apr 03 00:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.44 = 1.76 BTC [-]
Apr 03 00:12:27 <TomServo>	;;goxlag --au
Apr 03 00:12:28 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 140.383481 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.281326924112 AU, which is closest to the distance between the Sun and Mercury, 0.39 AU
Apr 03 00:12:52 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 03 00:12:55 <Bugpowder>	i love that
Apr 03 00:13:05 <TomServo>	that's good stuff
Apr 03 00:13:10 <Bugpowder>	bounce???
Apr 03 00:13:23 <Bugpowder>	well... lag is super long so who knows
Apr 03 00:14:21 <Bugpowder>	laterz
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Apr 03 00:14:29 <KRS1>	is  it just me or is it going down
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Apr 03 00:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.44 = 1.76 BTC [-]
Apr 03 00:19:23 <unbalanced_>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 03 00:19:24 <gribble>	110.45
Apr 03 00:20:26 <ThickAsThieves>	people try to hold btc down
Apr 03 00:20:35 <ThickAsThieves>	only works for little while
Apr 03 00:22:52 <TomServo>	;;goxlag --au
Apr 03 00:22:52 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 499.753605 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.0015006289 AU, which is closest to the distance between the Sun and Earth, 1 AU
Apr 03 00:22:59 <TomServo>	We've reached Earth.
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Apr 03 00:23:17 <KRS1>	any way i can get a quote on gox..its been stuck
Apr 03 00:24:27 <cole_albon>	I feel for you KRS1 you waited all this time for a drop, you finally get one and you can't savor it.
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Apr 03 00:24:38 <KRS1>	lol damn
Apr 03 00:25:05 <KRS1>	anything else I can do? the market is frozen
Apr 03 00:25:43 <cole_albon>	krs1 try ripples xrptrader.com
Apr 03 00:26:42 <KRS1>	ok
Apr 03 00:27:13 <cole_albon>	it's not bit coin - that was a bit of a troll/joke not going to get a mtgox price soon message
Apr 03 00:27:21 <KRS1>	hhaa
Apr 03 00:27:33 <KRS1>	i have a good sense of humor-thats funny
Apr 03 00:27:44 <KRS1>	=D
Apr 03 00:27:50 <KRS1>	damn troll
Apr 03 00:27:53 <KRS1>	hehe
Apr 03 00:28:10 <KRS1>	night..i'm betting this will keep going.
Apr 03 00:28:21 <cole_albon>	night
Apr 03 00:28:22 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 00:28:22 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds.
Apr 03 00:28:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 00:28:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.23100, Best ask: 122.49897, Bid-ask spread: 2.26797, Last trade: 122.80000, 24 hour volume: 91547.00156515, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 127.18670, 24 hour vwap: 111.04021
Apr 03 00:28:39 <ThickAsThieves>	ready for new ATH?
Apr 03 00:29:00 <cole_albon>	game on huh?  didn't you just say 110?
Apr 03 00:29:13 <ThickAsThieves>	me? no
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Apr 03 00:29:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i say 130 today
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Apr 03 00:30:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009999 BTC [+]
Apr 03 00:30:22 <cole_albon>	I'm out good night and good luck
Apr 03 00:30:32 <taub>	130 easy
Apr 03 00:31:04 <KRS1>	yeh just opened again
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Apr 03 00:33:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.779998 = 3.12 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 00:45:18 <taub>	my neck is kiilling me
Apr 03 00:45:21 <taub>	too much computer time
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Apr 03 00:50:54 <ChaangNoi>	;;aks 120
Apr 03 00:50:54 <gribble>	Error: "aks" is not a valid command.
Apr 03 00:51:01 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 125
Apr 03 00:51:01 <gribble>	There are currently 4735.6939 bitcoins offered at or under 125.0 USD, worth 586259.731845 USD in total. | Data vintage: 93.0663 seconds
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Apr 03 00:51:24 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker litecoin
Apr 03 00:51:25 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
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Apr 03 00:51:47 <ChaangNoi>	meh
Apr 03 00:51:55 <cole_albon>	;;ticker LTC
Apr 03 00:51:55 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Apr 03 00:52:33 <ChaangNoi>	data on coinlab is not showing, just me or everyone?
Apr 03 00:53:08 <cole_albon>	me too
Apr 03 00:53:15 <ChaangNoi>	thanks
Apr 03 00:53:36 <cole_albon>	;;ticker
Apr 03 00:53:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.93319, Best ask: 120.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.06581, Last trade: 120.99900, 24 hour volume: 93177.61253752, 24 hour low: 99.00000, 24 hour high: 127.18670, 24 hour vwap: 111.28924
Apr 03 00:53:40 <ChaangNoi>	i like to use their 1 million usd sell off to get a read on the btc price
Apr 03 00:53:58 <ChaangNoi>	120, not bad
Apr 03 00:54:05 <ChaangNoi>	ltc over $4 lulz
Apr 03 00:54:15 <taub>	what is coinlab anyway
Apr 03 00:54:37 <cole_albon>	silicon valley money I think
Apr 03 00:56:08 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Apr 03 00:56:32 <cole_albon>	roger ver's picture is up there
Apr 03 00:56:35 <ChaangNoi>	where are all the normal fiends?
Apr 03 00:56:48 <cole_albon>	it's late
Apr 03 00:57:00 <ChaangNoi>	in btcland? hahhahaa
Apr 03 00:59:01 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm still kickin
Apr 03 00:59:04 <cole_albon>	night
Apr 03 01:04:46 <ThickAsThieves>	almost rally time
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Apr 03 01:26:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 01:26:20 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 14.71703 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0294927633399 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Apr 03 01:26:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 03 01:26:51 <gribble>	62874.001635
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Apr 03 01:40:37 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 01:40:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.13138, Best ask: 122.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.56862, Last trade: 122.71999, 24 hour volume: 86962.44613970, 24 hour low: 100.15000, 24 hour high: 127.18670, 24 hour vwap: 112.68236
Apr 03 01:40:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 01:40:51 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 28.032969 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0561777560032 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
Apr 03 01:42:19 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 01:42:19 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 45.961983 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.092107299316 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
Apr 03 01:43:00 <[\\\]>	o/ Cory
Apr 03 01:43:15 <Cory>	\o
Apr 03 01:43:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 01:43:57 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 9.941644 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0199229432638 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).
Apr 03 01:44:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 01:44:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.13238, Best ask: 122.76900, Bid-ask spread: 0.63662, Last trade: 122.76900, 24 hour volume: 86962.44613970, 24 hour low: 100.15000, 24 hour high: 127.18670, 24 hour vwap: 112.68236
Apr 03 01:44:31 <[\\\]>	;;diffchange
Apr 03 01:44:32 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 15.94831 % based on data since last change | 31.00965 % based on data for last three days
Apr 03 01:44:39 <[\\\]>	there's your answer folks
Apr 03 01:44:45 <[\\\]>	;;bc,stats
Apr 03 01:44:50 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229433 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 390 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 4 hours, 52 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7763697.57492 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.94831
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Apr 03 01:50:49 <mod6>	wow: Estimated Percent Change: 15.94831
Apr 03 01:51:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 03 01:51:35 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7763697.57492 based on data since last change | 8772178.88371 based on data for last three days
Apr 03 01:51:47 <ThickAsThieves>	that one is even more fun
Apr 03 01:52:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 01:52:15 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 72.87933 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.146049361322 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 03 01:52:28 <ThickAsThieves>	gox is shy, doesnt wanna show me this rally
Apr 03 01:52:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 01:52:52 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 105.725306 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.211872329464 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 03 01:53:13 <ThickAsThieves>	oh, gox...
Apr 03 01:53:33 <mod6>	heheh
Apr 03 01:54:24 <ThickAsThieves>	125
Apr 03 01:54:27 <mod6>	^^^
Apr 03 01:54:45 <ThickAsThieves>	126
Apr 03 01:54:55 <mod6>	crushing 126
Apr 03 01:55:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 01:55:35 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 144.804876 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.290187350188 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
Apr 03 01:56:12 <mod6>	this new goxlag is tits
Apr 03 01:56:23 <ThickAsThieves>	srsly
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Apr 03 01:57:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen thatwhichcannotbeunseen
Apr 03 01:57:00 <gribble>	I have not seen thatwhichcannotbeunseen.
Apr 03 01:57:50 <ThickAsThieves>	goxlag traps people into below market asks
Apr 03 01:58:03 <ThickAsThieves>	nice feature
Apr 03 01:58:29 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 01:58:30 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 112.44
Apr 03 01:58:31 <mod6>	HEH
Apr 03 02:00:02 <ThickAsThieves>	back on track now
Apr 03 02:00:05 <mod6>	haha 127
Apr 03 02:00:15 <ThickAsThieves>	128
Apr 03 02:00:22 <mod6>	^^^
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Apr 03 02:00:41 <ThickAsThieves>	my first batch of calls is currently in the money
Apr 03 02:00:48 <mod6>	nice
Apr 03 02:01:51 <ThickAsThieves>	whoa
Apr 03 02:01:53 <ThickAsThieves>	129
Apr 03 02:01:59 <ThickAsThieves>	130
Apr 03 02:02:01 <mod6>	MOAR COWBELL
Apr 03 02:02:41 <ThickAsThieves>	scary shit
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Apr 03 02:03:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen datrally
Apr 03 02:03:10 <gribble>	I have not seen datrally.
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Apr 03 02:03:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 02:03:53 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 124.28978 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.249075327502 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 03 02:04:16 <ThickAsThieves>	no ceiling
Apr 03 02:04:18 <dub>	;;goxlag --au
Apr 03 02:04:18 <gribble>	(goxlag [--raw]) -- Retrieve mtgox order processing lag. If --raw option is specified only output the raw number of seconds. Otherwise, dress it up.
Apr 03 02:04:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 02:04:58 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 153.147181 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.306905236003 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
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Apr 03 02:07:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:07:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3435 = 0.687 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 02:07:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3431 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:07:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3431 = 0.6862 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:07:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.3415 = 5.1225 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:07:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 48 @ 0.341 = 16.368 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:07:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.3405 = 10.215 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:07:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.34000002 = 3.74 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:07:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.34 = 3.4 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 02:07:44 <ThickAsThieves>	nice i caught some of that
Apr 03 02:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.479966 = 9.1194 BTC [+]
Apr 03 02:11:18 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 03 02:11:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.00002, Best ask: 127.00003, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 127.00003, 24 hour volume: 94058.97823523, 24 hour low: 100.15000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 113.79318
Apr 03 02:11:33 <ThickAsThieves>	still lagged
Apr 03 02:12:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000617 = 0.074 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:12:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000616 = 0.0616 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:12:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.000615 = 0.123 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:12:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 715 @ 0.000611 = 0.4369 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:12:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 890 @ 0.00061 = 0.5429 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:12:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 96 @ 0.0006 = 0.0576 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:14:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 02:14:52 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 76.602091 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.153509732684 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 03 02:15:09 <jurov>	woke up...*gasp*
Apr 03 02:15:58 <ThickAsThieves>	mornin!
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Apr 03 02:16:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 02:16:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.00000, Best ask: 127.00003, Bid-ask spread: 0.00003, Last trade: 127.00000, 24 hour volume: 93833.30411689, 24 hour low: 100.15000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 113.90981
Apr 03 02:16:23 <ThickAsThieves>	mornin!
Apr 03 02:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	hai
Apr 03 02:16:39 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 02:16:40 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.537715 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00107757483944 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 03 02:16:52 <ThickAsThieves>	130
Apr 03 02:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	crazy.
Apr 03 02:17:38 <ThickAsThieves>	131
Apr 03 02:18:20 <mod6>	just like zooooooooom
Apr 03 02:18:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 149
Apr 03 02:18:44 <gribble>	There are currently 6271.479 bitcoins offered at or under 149.0 USD, worth 865227.350584 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds
Apr 03 02:18:51 <mod6>	;;asks 250
Apr 03 02:18:52 <gribble>	There are currently 19338.039 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 3212573.62477 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.0612 seconds
Apr 03 02:18:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 02:18:52 <gribble>	There are currently 41029910 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9741936.25613 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.8355 seconds
Apr 03 02:19:25 <jurov>	morning! yes, it's cause i'm selling some...price blows up immediately after :)
Apr 03 02:19:35 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/319333218493005825
Apr 03 02:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	all i got to say
Apr 03 02:20:50 <taub>	afraid you'll have to eat a big loss again?
Apr 03 02:20:55 <ThickAsThieves>	is it possible for something to be oversold and overpriced?
Apr 03 02:21:09 <taub>	sexy background pic lol
Apr 03 02:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes.
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Apr 03 02:21:46 <ThickAsThieves>	whats that mean?
Apr 03 02:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	taub not even. affraid we'll end up with a rehash of the runup to 30
Apr 03 02:21:52 <ThickAsThieves>	for it to be both
Apr 03 02:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves mania.
Apr 03 02:22:04 <taub>	well that's gonna happen eventually
Apr 03 02:22:10 <ThickAsThieves>	hah thats exactly the only word i could come up with earlier
Apr 03 02:22:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.779998 = 9.36 BTC [+]
Apr 03 02:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	taub death is also going to happen eventually.
Apr 03 02:22:16 <taub>	trends dont go on for forever usually
Apr 03 02:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	this is basically the worst attack on bitcoin from the very people bitcoin is here to slaughter.
Apr 03 02:22:37 <taub>	even fiat flucutates against each otehr a ton
Apr 03 02:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	the sheeple following trends are doing a "we follow baaa baaaa" number on bitcoin
Apr 03 02:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	it's working so far ;/\
Apr 03 02:23:02 <ThickAsThieves>	its on regular news now, not just online or tech news
Apr 03 02:23:12 <taub>	signs to get out prolly
Apr 03 02:23:12 <ThickAsThieves>	people dont care the price
Apr 03 02:23:16 <taub>	or watch for big reversals
Apr 03 02:23:18 <mod6>	yeah. everyone and their grandma wants btc
Apr 03 02:23:21 <taub>	hold on to your hats
Apr 03 02:23:41 <ThickAsThieves>	if they are just buying in now, and amateurs, price is meaningless
Apr 03 02:24:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 02:24:24 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 219.524796 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.439925233262 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 03 02:25:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009832 = 0.0983 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:25:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 90 @ 0.009831 = 0.8848 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:25:54 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 02:25:55 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 113.58
Apr 03 02:27:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 691 @ 0.009831 = 6.7932 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:27:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 109 @ 0.00983 = 1.0715 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:30:27 <ThickAsThieves>	need sleep, nite
Apr 03 02:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	taub yeah totally.
Apr 03 02:30:51 <taub>	tbh i thought 93 was gonna be the big one
Apr 03 02:30:59 <taub>	not quite there yet it seems
Apr 03 02:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.188 BTC [+]
Apr 03 02:33:03 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 03 02:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.431 = 3.017 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 02:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33300001 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.333 = 2.997 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:38:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.322 = 0.966 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:38:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3200001 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:38:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 49 @ 0.32 = 15.68 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:42:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.431 = 4.741 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:42:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779998 BTC [+]
Apr 03 02:43:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779998 BTC [+]
Apr 03 02:44:25 <mod6>	we're gonna find out just how worthless USD really is
Apr 03 02:45:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 999 @ 0.00983 = 9.8202 BTC [-]
Apr 03 02:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.479966 BTC [+]
Apr 03 02:47:24 <jurov>	also, tits.
Apr 03 02:47:26 <jurov>	(,)(,)
Apr 03 02:47:43 <mod6>	haha. those are some crazy nipples j
Apr 03 02:49:39 <bgupta>	is there an FAQ for the options?
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Apr 03 02:52:15 <jurov>	bgupta, i put a cheatsheet here: https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/call-option-calculation/msg2445/#msg2445
Apr 03 02:53:51 <jurov>	and also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.0 (but the opening of position is now done differently)
Apr 03 02:54:05 <bitesak>	bgupta, and a nice overview of all options available: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGxfRk5SS0hxT1lsVmdLdU1QY0RveGc#gid=6
Apr 03 02:54:36 <taub>	140 lel
Apr 03 02:54:43 <taub>	hysteria
Apr 03 02:55:19 <bgupta>	are options for .1 btc?
Apr 03 02:55:27 <taub>	1
Apr 03 02:55:52 <taub>	settled in bitcoins tho
Apr 03 02:56:02 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 03 02:56:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.03707, Best ask: 136.50000, Bid-ask spread: 2.46293, Last trade: 136.50000, 24 hour volume: 99269.33772735, 24 hour low: 100.15000, 24 hour high: 136.75381, 24 hour vwap: 115.26807
Apr 03 02:56:14 <Diablo-D3>	are you fucking shitting me?
Apr 03 02:56:25 <taub>	whut
Apr 03 02:57:12 <bgupta>	so O.USD.C101T is call to buy at 101? why is the bid/ask range .19xxx-0.272xxx?
Apr 03 02:57:23 <taub>	oh good it wasnt at 140 then, the cli display shows it at 140
Apr 03 02:57:37 <mircea_popescu>	le wow.
Apr 03 02:57:46 <bgupta>	it was 140
Apr 03 02:57:51 <jurov>	yes. and the spread is generally because of the risk involved
Apr 03 02:58:14 <taub>	bgupta: just multiple it by the 24h price
Apr 03 02:58:22 <taub>	;;24hp
Apr 03 02:58:22 <gribble>	Error: "24hp" is not a valid command.
Apr 03 02:58:25 <jurov>	$avg
Apr 03 02:58:26 <mpexbot>	jurov: 114.54
Apr 03 02:58:26 <taub>	whatever the command is
Apr 03 02:58:33 <jurov>	^that
Apr 03 02:58:34 <taub>	:)
Apr 03 02:58:37 <bgupta>	Ah % price
Apr 03 03:01:25 <bgupta>	a lot of these don't have a bid or an ask.
Apr 03 03:01:37 <bitesak>	;;asks 1000
Apr 03 03:01:38 <gribble>	There are currently 27760.159 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 8382539.9052 USD in total. | Data vintage: 67.0005 seconds
Apr 03 03:02:34 <bitesak>	;;asks 250
Apr 03 03:02:36 <gribble>	There are currently 17686.764 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 3057767.60599 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0007 seconds
Apr 03 03:03:28 <bgupta>	ah there we go, a refresh later and everything has bids and asks
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Apr 03 03:07:22 <jurov>	bgupta, it's the MPOE bot, sometimes it leaves for a while
Apr 03 03:07:33 <jurov>	smoking pause or whatever
Apr 03 03:07:40 <bgupta>	heh ok.
Apr 03 03:07:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.779998 = 1.56 BTC [+]
Apr 03 03:08:02 <bgupta>	I find it odd that the counterparty is a bot.
Apr 03 03:08:18 <bgupta>	however, I believe I understand why..
Apr 03 03:08:45 <bgupta>	need a market maker, to facilitate trade, and there aren't enough humans writing options
Apr 03 03:10:08 <bgupta>	N vs T?
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Apr 03 03:11:53 <bgupta>	CurrenT, Next?
Apr 03 03:12:14 <bgupta>	(month)
Apr 03 03:12:44 <jurov>	yes
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Apr 03 03:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	everybody : please promote http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/people-bitcoin-is-not-worth-100-dollars-per-stop-buying/ on whatever social media etc.
Apr 03 03:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	i know it's a bitter pill, but seriously... we'll end up fucked.
Apr 03 03:24:31 <fdas>	but you were talking about only $100 btc :P
Apr 03 03:24:33 <jurov>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bkpvy/people_bitcoin_is_not_worth_100_dollars_per_stop/
Apr 03 03:24:39 <fdas>	NOW it's different
Apr 03 03:25:08 <taub>	https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6911896/topfishin.png maybe something cute
Apr 03 03:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	fdas ya well...
Apr 03 03:25:17 <jurov>	but not even satoshi can stop it this time
Apr 03 03:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i guess not.
Apr 03 03:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	can't sit and not say anything.
Apr 03 03:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	"all it takes for stupidity to succeed" and all that.
Apr 03 03:26:14 <jurov>	yes. and mpex deposits, please :)
Apr 03 03:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	a yes
Apr 03 03:27:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 49 @ 0.779998 = 38.2199 BTC [+]
Apr 03 03:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	and flushed.
Apr 03 03:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol hide my pc appspot ?
Apr 03 03:36:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C110T] 100 @ 0.26204127 = 26.2041 BTC [+]
Apr 03 03:36:38 <jurov>	sry that's proxy i use to read trilema
Apr 03 03:36:41 <jurov>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bkq2p/people_bitcoin_is_not_worth_100_dollars_per_stop/
Apr 03 03:36:46 <jurov>	fixed
Apr 03 03:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C125T] 100 @ 0.1998944 = 19.9894 BTC [+]
Apr 03 03:38:01 <dub>	mircea_popescu: yeah its $150 per
Apr 03 03:38:10 <mircea_popescu>	yes well...
Apr 03 03:38:10 <taub>	asks are getting made love to
Apr 03 03:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C155T] 400 @ 0.11821909 = 47.2876 BTC
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Apr 03 03:42:58 <Schadenfreude>	Judging by that momentum it's going to pop sooner than later
Apr 03 03:43:11 <taub>	yea...
Apr 03 03:43:26 <taub>	and my coins are in limbo between btce and mtgox
Apr 03 03:43:27 <taub>	:[
Apr 03 03:44:29 <Schadenfreude>	I already made 500% profit and am all out watching for it to crash
Apr 03 03:44:41 <taub>	haha
Apr 03 03:44:51 <Schadenfreude>	Could've been more, but I'm not a gambling man
Apr 03 03:44:58 <taub>	all those people that had to get verified and wathced it soar the last week
Apr 03 03:45:02 <taub>	are now desperate
Apr 03 03:45:32 <Schadenfreude>	250>1350ish€ seems great, no?
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Apr 03 03:46:12 <Schadenfreude>	Which will make some sweet dividends once I put it into BTC-securities in a more rational market
Apr 03 03:47:38 <taub>	1350 coins?
Apr 03 03:49:01 <Schadenfreude>	Sadly not, euros as in €
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Apr 03 03:51:55 <taub>	why not focus on accumilating coins
Apr 03 03:52:26 <taub>	so, buy back in after crash ;)
Apr 03 03:52:37 <taub>	what if we go to 200 today, then we're def fucking goin down hard
Apr 03 03:52:38 <Schadenfreude>	Was my main plan
Apr 03 03:52:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C185T] 95 @ 0.07377055 = 7.0082 BTC
Apr 03 03:53:06 <taub>	but we prolly reached at top, right here
Apr 03 03:53:13 <taub>	i wish i could sell right now
Apr 03 03:53:16 <Schadenfreude>	;;ticker
Apr 03 03:53:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.00001, Best ask: 141.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.98997, Last trade: 141.10100, 24 hour volume: 107422.54894605, 24 hour low: 102.00000, 24 hour high: 143.90000, 24 hour vwap: 117.47279
Apr 03 03:53:40 <Schadenfreude>	150 might be psychologically significant enough
Apr 03 03:53:54 <Schadenfreude>	Could crah anytime though, last one popped at 31-33ish
Apr 03 03:54:06 <taub>	yup
Apr 03 03:55:23 <Schadenfreude>	What's more interesting is where it will go to after crashing, 10ish seems too low
Apr 03 03:55:30 <bitesak>	;;asks 150
Apr 03 03:55:30 <gribble>	There are currently 5545.1177 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 819419.244866 USD in total. | Data vintage: 81.4224 seconds
Apr 03 03:55:53 <taub>	100-50
Apr 03 03:55:56 <taub>	my guess
Apr 03 03:56:03 <taub>	dont think we will go below 50 anytime soon
Apr 03 04:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.321 = 3.21 BTC [+]
Apr 03 04:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
Apr 03 04:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3180994 BTC [-]
Apr 03 04:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.30000001 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Apr 03 04:07:00 <Schadenfreude>	Holy shit, somebody paid $10000 for 70 btc
Apr 03 04:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Apr 03 04:07:34 <bgupta>	well one thing to perhaps look at is how btc traded after crossing 1USD and 10USD pyschological barriers. Haven't looked too closely yet.. as I'm pretty sure marekt conditions were quite different.
Apr 03 04:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.431 = 5.172 BTC [-]
Apr 03 04:08:37 <bgupta>	;;bids 100
Apr 03 04:08:37 <gribble>	There are currently 21209.86 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2410540.73085 USD in total. | Data vintage: 73.5523 seconds
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Apr 03 04:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.93 = 5.79 BTC [-]
Apr 03 04:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 21 @ 0.479955 = 10.0791 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 04:16:00 <bgupta>	;;bids 120
Apr 03 04:16:02 <gribble>	There are currently 5670.2757 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 740933.924797 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0049 seconds
Apr 03 04:20:30 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 03 04:20:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.50001, Best ask: 145.78998, Bid-ask spread: 0.28997, Last trade: 145.79000, 24 hour volume: 109826.82126183, 24 hour low: 102.50000, 24 hour high: 146.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.31690
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Apr 03 04:23:20 <Anduck>	!ticker s.dice
Apr 03 04:23:21 <assbot>	The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy.
Apr 03 04:23:24 <Anduck>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 03 04:23:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00310001 / 0.00368235 / 0.00400173 (25821 shares, 95.08 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00331583 / 0.00448 (718545 shares, 2,382.58 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00424531 / 0.006225 (1571439 shares, 6,671.26 BTC)
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Apr 03 04:31:27 <bgupta>	so anyone remember when it ran from 10 to 30? I think the thing that popped it was the mtgox heist, no?
Apr 03 04:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	<Schadenfreude> What's more interesting is where it will go to after crashing, 10ish seems too low << i can tell you that the major players will inflict at least a 1/3 punishment to the lemmings putting price this high.
Apr 03 04:32:03 <mircea_popescu>	so nothing over 100 is going to get bought.
Apr 03 04:32:36 <Diablo-D3>	huh
Apr 03 04:32:38 <Diablo-D3>	hey mp
Apr 03 04:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	ello
Apr 03 04:32:47 <Diablo-D3>	whats a url for a profitability calculator
Apr 03 04:32:57 <mircea_popescu>	um. i have no idea. you're the miner neh ?
Apr 03 04:33:17 <Diablo-D3>	I could calculate it by hand but meh
Apr 03 04:33:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.78997 = 2.3699 BTC [+]
Apr 03 04:38:29 <bgupta>	;;bids 95.7
Apr 03 04:38:31 <gribble>	There are currently 25483.015 bitcoins demanded at or over 95.7 USD, worth 2825225.0196 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0062 seconds
Apr 03 04:38:44 <bgupta>	;;bids 50
Apr 03 04:38:44 <gribble>	There are currently 87921.054 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 7578933.5071 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.7352 seconds
Apr 03 04:38:57 <bgupta>	;; bids 0
Apr 03 04:38:58 <gribble>	There are currently 41207088 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10375480.9223 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.0924 seconds
Apr 03 04:39:30 <bgupta>	;;asks 155
Apr 03 04:39:30 <gribble>	There are currently 5051.1155 bitcoins offered at or under 155.0 USD, worth 756571.619693 USD in total. | Data vintage: 58.6891 seconds
Apr 03 04:39:37 <taub>	mtgox in a perpetual state of lag haha
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Apr 03 04:40:11 <taub>	now its not even enough to predict future prices, you also have to predict current ones when you entry
Apr 03 04:40:15 <taub>	rofl
Apr 03 04:41:12 <bgupta>	how does trading even function with lag?
Apr 03 04:41:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.0006815 = 10.6314 BTC [+]
Apr 03 04:41:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00068372 = 6.8372 BTC [+]
Apr 03 04:41:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068373 = 3.4187 BTC [+]
Apr 03 04:41:40 <taub>	what do you mean
Apr 03 04:41:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00068777 = 4.1266 BTC [+]
Apr 03 04:41:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.771 BTC [-]
Apr 03 04:42:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 03 04:42:04 <bgupta>	lag means you don't know trades were executed until some time in the future?
Apr 03 04:42:22 <taub>	well, it means that the orderbook you are seeing right now is 3 minutes old
Apr 03 04:42:25 <taub>	or
Apr 03 04:42:36 <taub>	if you send an order now, it will take the lag time until it shows on the orderbook
Apr 03 04:43:05 <bgupta>	damn 5:45 and growing
Apr 03 04:43:13 <bgupta>	wonder if that is people selling?
Apr 03 04:43:30 <taub>	5:45?
Apr 03 04:43:34 <saulimus>	watch for the drop
Apr 03 04:43:43 <bgupta>	  | Lag: 6:12.618
Apr 03 04:43:49 <taub>	oh, ya
Apr 03 04:43:57 <taub>	i havent found out the correlation
Apr 03 04:44:00 <taub>	except volatility
Apr 03 04:44:45 <bgupta>	mpex bots seem to shutdown when there is lag?
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Apr 03 04:45:57 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta not rly.
Apr 03 04:46:16 <taub>	seems like my lag theory was correct
Apr 03 04:46:24 <taub>	from couple days ago
Apr 03 04:46:30 <mircea_popescu>	the bot puts them in the book with an expiration time
Apr 03 04:46:32 <taub>	book getting spammed with 0.01 orders
Apr 03 04:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes that comes a little (like, seconds) before the bot gets to put the new set in
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Apr 03 04:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand if the bot can't get price feed it won't quote
Apr 03 04:47:54 <bgupta>	Lag crosse 7:00
Apr 03 04:48:49 <taub>	its happening
Apr 03 04:48:52 <taub>	;;ticker
Apr 03 04:48:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.22000, Best ask: 141.00100, Bid-ask spread: 0.78100, Last trade: 140.22000, 24 hour volume: 109826.82126183, 24 hour low: 102.50000, 24 hour high: 146.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.31690
Apr 03 04:49:00 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, big drop it seems
Apr 03 04:49:07 <pizzaman1337>	could have just been one sell though
Apr 03 04:49:13 <pizzaman1337>	too much lag to tell...
Apr 03 04:49:23 <taub>	now in 7 minutes lets see what happens then
Apr 03 04:49:56 <taub>	fuck, my funds arrived, but just a tad too late
Apr 03 04:50:02 <bgupta>	;;la
Apr 03 04:50:03 <gribble>	Error: "la" is not a valid command.
Apr 03 04:50:07 <bgupta>	;;lag
Apr 03 04:50:08 <gribble>	Error: "lag" is not a valid command.
Apr 03 04:50:15 <bitesak>	goxlag
Apr 03 04:50:16 <dub>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 04:50:17 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 468.536678 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.938942256714 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 03 04:50:23 <bgupta>	taub, too late too sell?
Apr 03 04:50:24 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 03 04:50:26 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube ^
Apr 03 04:50:44 <bgupta>	or too late to buy puts?
Apr 03 04:51:05 <taub>	well, too late to catch this particular move that just happend
Apr 03 04:51:18 <bgupta>	via coins or options?
Apr 03 04:51:22 <taub>	i'm confident i'll get my fill still in the next 7 mins, the order got sent before the big drop
Apr 03 04:51:26 <bgupta>	options bots weren't quotin
Apr 03 04:51:29 <taub>	i dont trade options
Apr 03 04:51:34 <bgupta>	ahh.
Apr 03 04:51:51 <taub>	okay now it goes down further, :( bummer
Apr 03 04:52:01 <bgupta>	how can you tell?
Apr 03 04:52:17 <bgupta>	carkmoody seems stuck
Apr 03 04:52:22 <taub>	not for me
Apr 03 04:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ yup it's down
Apr 03 04:52:43 <bgupta>	141/142 range?
Apr 03 04:52:44 <taub>	do you got linuix?
Apr 03 04:52:46 <bgupta>	or lower?
Apr 03 04:52:55 <taub>	best bid is 139.9
Apr 03 04:53:17 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 04:53:18 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 563.040692 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.12832724265 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 03 04:53:25 <taub>	http://prof7bit.github.com/goxtool/ this is good too
Apr 03 04:53:49 <bgupta>	Lagbets heh
Apr 03 04:55:23 <bgupta>	;;bids 140
Apr 03 04:55:26 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 140.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0043 seconds
Apr 03 04:55:45 <bgupta>	ah there it goes
Apr 03 04:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 03 04:56:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.83060, Best ask: 143.19999, Bid-ask spread: 4.36939, Last trade: 138.83060, 24 hour volume: 109826.82126183, 24 hour low: 102.50000, 24 hour high: 146.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.31690
Apr 03 04:56:06 <bgupta>	really wide spread
Apr 03 04:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	dude i'm so impressed. the market listened. thank you!
Apr 03 04:57:02 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: You want it back to 95?
Apr 03 04:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	no. i just don't want it to bubble.
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Apr 03 05:02:07 <dub>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 05:02:08 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 521.994696 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.04607152624 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 03 05:02:53 <TradeFortress>	love the new gribble text.
Apr 03 05:03:51 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 03 05:03:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.15805, Best ask: 139.00000, Bid-ask spread: 6.84195, Last trade: 139.00000, 24 hour volume: 109826.82126183, 24 hour low: 102.50000, 24 hour high: 146.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.31690
Apr 03 05:04:12 <bgupta>	132 <-> 139
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Apr 03 05:04:31 <bgupta>	must be midnight somewhere
Apr 03 05:04:41 <dub>	its not accurate
Apr 03 05:05:00 <dub>	no trades have been placed for 10 minutes
Apr 03 05:06:49 <dub>	;;bcstats
Apr 03 05:06:51 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229457 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 366 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 1 hour, 20 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7768579.67908 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.02123
Apr 03 05:07:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00068777 = 5.2271 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 05:11:53 <mjr_>	wow
Apr 03 05:12:00 <mjr_>	this is fun
Apr 03 05:12:56 <bgupta>	is it goxlag understood, and perhaps fixable by the exchange?
Apr 03 05:13:03 <mjr_>	lol
Apr 03 05:13:15 <mjr_>	of course its fixable
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Apr 03 05:13:19 <mjr_>	these are solved problems
Apr 03 05:13:25 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 03 05:13:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.28100, Best ask: 136.99000, Bid-ask spread: 3.70900, Last trade: 136.99000, 24 hour volume: 109826.82126183, 24 hour low: 102.50000, 24 hour high: 146.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.31690
Apr 03 05:13:31 <mjr_>	there is a global forex market where trillions of dollars are traded every day
Apr 03 05:13:34 <bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 05:13:35 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 311.754968 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.624753465289 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 03 05:13:39 <mjr_>	and they don't wait 5 minutes for an order
Apr 03 05:13:41 <bowjob>	crash
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Apr 03 05:14:45 <bgupta>	Bowjob you referring to price or the functionality of mtgox ;)
Apr 03 05:14:46 <mjr_>	you gotta love how wide this spread is
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Apr 03 05:18:13 <bgupta>	sigh for most of that apike and drop mpex bots weren't quoting..
Apr 03 05:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	<mjr_> lol <<< this.
Apr 03 05:18:34 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ was offline.
Apr 03 05:18:44 <bgupta>	ahh...
Apr 03 05:18:53 <mircea_popescu>	now i see "invalid symbol"
Apr 03 05:19:17 <bgupta>	still getting 502 but quotes did come back..
Apr 03 05:19:29 <bgupta>	at least a min ago they were there
Apr 03 05:19:59 <mjr_>	i was mostly joking about 188 calls...
Apr 03 05:20:09 <mjr_>	and being limited by 200 strike
Apr 03 05:20:10 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta it probably managed to pull one.
Apr 03 05:20:38 <mjr_>	;;ticker
Apr 03 05:20:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.10000, Best ask: 132.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.70000, Last trade: 132.80000, 24 hour volume: 113914.00406253, 24 hour low: 103.59000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 119.79724
Apr 03 05:21:00 <mjr_>	24 hour volume: 113914.00406253
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Apr 03 05:21:07 <pingec>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 05:21:07 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 76.788317 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.153882927503 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
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Apr 03 05:22:06 <mjr_>	buy wall at 130
Apr 03 05:23:33 <bgupta>	lag spiking again
Apr 03 05:24:52 <ChaangNoi>	nice
Apr 03 05:24:59 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 150
Apr 03 05:25:02 <gribble>	There are currently 11975.009 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 1746325.8334 USD in total. | Data vintage: 100.2402 seconds
Apr 03 05:25:03 <ChaangNoi>	;;bids 100
Apr 03 05:25:03 <gribble>	There are currently 20939.625 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2330617.2525 USD in total. | Data vintage: 102.0011 seconds
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Apr 03 05:33:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00068777 = 0.9629 BTC [+]
Apr 03 05:33:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00069537 = 7.1275 BTC [+]
Apr 03 05:38:13 <mjr_>	did they close the SA thread?
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Apr 03 05:43:13 <ChaangNoi>	ltc near $5 lol
Apr 03 05:43:35 <TradeFortress>	kinda surprised LTC is so affected by btcusd
Apr 03 05:44:22 <ChaangNoi>	i think its just funny it went up like 10,000% in 2 months or so
Apr 03 05:44:32 <bgupta>	ltc spiked on mtgox rumors, that's all I think
Apr 03 05:44:45 <ChaangNoi>	moe than just rumors
Apr 03 05:44:58 <ChaangNoi>	more*
Apr 03 05:45:08 <bgupta>	well, tux said it would be easy to do, but didn't say he would.
Apr 03 05:45:13 <ChaangNoi>	once gox lists it, it should trade in the 1/10th to1/5th of btc price
Apr 03 05:45:20 <bgupta>	SOunded positive for it happening though
Apr 03 05:45:29 <ChaangNoi>	he said he was not ready to say when "soon" would be
Apr 03 05:46:02 <bgupta>	I wish he would fix the broken shit, before adding litecoin
Apr 03 05:46:05 <dub>	its not a rumour anymore
Apr 03 05:46:17 <dub>	gox is rolling out ltc/nmc 'soon'
Apr 03 05:46:21 <bgupta>	ah which accounts for the selloff
Apr 03 05:46:26 <dub>	check topic in #mtgox
Apr 03 05:46:28 <ChaangNoi>	nmc too? lol
Apr 03 05:46:56 <dub>	I suggested that maybe the concentrate on supporting btc first
Apr 03 05:47:42 <bgupta>	ltc I sorta get. nmc, seems kinda sily.
Apr 03 05:47:46 <ChaangNoi>	i just sold 900 nmc lol and now its way way up
Apr 03 05:47:51 <bgupta>	next they'll be doing devcoin
Apr 03 05:47:54 <dub>	nmc does a lot more than ltc
Apr 03 05:48:13 <TradeFortress>	bgupta, source
Apr 03 05:48:15 <TradeFortress>	?
Apr 03 05:48:22 <TradeFortress>	devcoin d oes not align with profits.
Apr 03 05:48:24 <ChaangNoi>	he is kidding
Apr 03 05:48:25 <bgupta>	that was sarcasm
Apr 03 05:48:29 <TradeFortress>	lol ok.
Apr 03 05:48:34 <dub>	BTE us bext
Apr 03 05:48:37 <dub>	next*
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Apr 03 05:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	<ChaangNoi> once gox lists it, it should trade in the 1/10th to1/5th of btc price << eh get out.
Apr 03 05:50:41 <ChaangNoi>	want to make a bet? :)
Apr 03 05:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	go aheasd
Apr 03 05:50:50 <ChaangNoi>	like 1 month after the list it
Apr 03 05:50:55 <ChaangNoi>	they
Apr 03 05:50:56 <TradeFortress>	eh no
Apr 03 05:51:01 <ChaangNoi>	it should be in that range
Apr 03 05:51:04 <ChaangNoi>	oh lol
Apr 03 05:51:13 <TradeFortress>	people hear about bitcoin in the news, not litecoin
Apr 03 05:51:42 <bgupta>	I think the point being that if litecoin gets listed it will be in the news too
Apr 03 05:51:43 <ChaangNoi>	1/10 ltc only needs to go up to $13
Apr 03 05:52:01 <bgupta>	3 x
Apr 03 05:52:03 <ChaangNoi>	yeah, just wait.. 250% for ltc is nothing
Apr 03 05:52:15 <ChaangNoi>	it just went up 10,000%
Apr 03 05:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	well basically... if that happens ltc is fucked
Apr 03 05:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	i don't much care either way.
Apr 03 05:53:02 <bgupta>	is lag a constant thing?
Apr 03 05:53:13 <bgupta>	never really paid close attention
Apr 03 05:53:25 <TradeFortress>	bgupta, yup gox has a history of lag
Apr 03 05:53:26 <dub>	pretty much
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Apr 03 05:54:14 <mjr_>	i love the new au feature of goxlag
Apr 03 05:54:59 <ChaangNoi>	ltc is fucked? how so
Apr 03 05:55:02 <bgupta>	So is 147 the all time and foreever new high for btc?
Apr 03 05:55:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01201 BTC [+]
Apr 03 05:55:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.012 = 0.108 BTC [-]
Apr 03 05:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	carniwhore = girl who puts out for carnations.
Apr 03 05:56:44 <TradeFortress>	just wait till ltc gets more transactions
Apr 03 05:56:52 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta no. but for 2013 hopefully.
Apr 03 05:56:55 <TradeFortress>	you'd see all the "LTC is faster!" guys complain that their TX isn't making it into a block
Apr 03 05:56:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.14301 BTC [-]
Apr 03 05:57:19 <bgupta>	is mtgox the main place to do fiat/btc trading? (I know they have like 70% or something, but they have wierd transfer limits and stuff.
Apr 03 05:57:38 <TradeFortress>	bgupta, they have the biggest orderbook iirc, but not the only place obviously
Apr 03 05:58:02 <bgupta>	is that where people in this channel trade?
Apr 03 05:58:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.143 BTC [-]
Apr 03 05:58:11 <TradeFortress>	bgupta, no, this is bitcoin assets
Apr 03 05:58:22 <TradeFortress>	#mtgox
Apr 03 05:58:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1421 BTC [-]
Apr 03 05:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta they had something like 70% a year ago.
Apr 03 05:58:39 <mircea_popescu>	atm they're struggling to keep a third.
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Apr 03 05:58:59 <bgupta>	what''s the next biggest, or is it really ditributed?
Apr 03 05:59:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 124 @ 0.00362 = 0.4489 BTC [-]
Apr 03 05:59:16 <bgupta>	guessing we all still follow gox since they are still the biggest?
Apr 03 05:59:28 <mircea_popescu>	kinda distributed
Apr 03 05:59:30 <TradeFortress>	well I do.
Apr 03 05:59:34 <bgupta>	IE: options are priced against gox
Apr 03 05:59:43 <mircea_popescu>	options are priced against all exchanges.
Apr 03 05:59:46 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 03 05:59:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.93917, Best ask: 129.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.86083, Last trade: 128.93917, 24 hour volume: 119765.32170538, 24 hour low: 103.75000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 120.69408
Apr 03 05:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	gox is about 70% of that.
Apr 03 05:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	the exchange market is roughly half tho, otc is pretty big
Apr 03 06:00:03 <mircea_popescu>	and then there's the private traders
Apr 03 06:00:07 <TradeFortress>	OTC usually relies on gox price.
Apr 03 06:00:14 <mircea_popescu>	only for small trades.
Apr 03 06:00:18 <TradeFortress>	And then there's the FastCash4Bitcoins and Bitcoins Direct
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Apr 03 06:01:00 <bgupta>	sure but those are like gox +/- XX%, no?
Apr 03 06:01:19 <bgupta>	private traders, sounds interesting..
Apr 03 06:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, mtgox does have an overextended and unjustified impact on price formation.
Apr 03 06:01:40 <bgupta>	like street trading?
Apr 03 06:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	if that's what you were asking
Apr 03 06:01:50 <bgupta>	kinda was.
Apr 03 06:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	i don't know what street has to do with anything ?
Apr 03 06:02:01 <bgupta>	for a site that is prety broken..
Apr 03 06:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	private as in i know about it, you don't.
Apr 03 06:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	private.
Apr 03 06:02:25 <bgupta>	well, it's like otc, not an exchange.
Apr 03 06:02:30 <bgupta>	but not in channel
Apr 03 06:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	<mircea_popescu> the exchange market is roughly half tho, otc is pretty big <<<
Apr 03 06:03:03 <bgupta>	I imagine that folks that need to move large amounts don't use standard gox
Apr 03 06:03:09 <mjr_>	it looks like there aer some big fish getting in
Apr 03 06:03:24 <mjr_>	the volume is very high
Apr 03 06:03:34 <mjr_>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 06:03:37 <gribble>	There are currently 41180994 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10343612.1046 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0109 seconds
Apr 03 06:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	was about 10mn for a while neh ?
Apr 03 06:04:02 <mjr_>	bugpowder would be happy with those numbers
Apr 03 06:04:41 <ChaangNoi>	a lotof btc transactions happen outside of an exchange, ihave not use an exchange in well over a year (other than btc-e for ltc)
Apr 03 06:05:10 <mjr_>	yeah, the bitcoin atm will prob do very well at extending that trend
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Apr 03 06:05:33 <bgupta>	I don't plan to use btc/fiat echanges any time soon, at least not gox.. as I'm in US and the whole rcoinlab thing seems a shame
Apr 03 06:05:51 <mjr_>	bgupta: why?
Apr 03 06:05:59 <mjr_>	also, bitfloor is in the US
Apr 03 06:06:04 <bitesak>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 06:06:05 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 119.238373 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.238952364433 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 03 06:06:08 <mjr_>	and so far its been good to me, though YMMV
Apr 03 06:06:42 <bgupta>	well as soon as I convert to fiat, it's subject to trading taxes.. and coinlab reports.
Apr 03 06:07:11 <mjr_>	that's why i said bitfloor
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Apr 03 06:07:25 <mjr_>	AND...it is worth paying taxes if the money is right
Apr 03 06:07:50 <bgupta>	at least from my current reading of the rules… staying in btc means that I am not subject to taxes.
Apr 03 06:08:30 <bgupta>	I was actually wondering if it would work to setup a subsidiary of a US company to do the trading.. and report the profits overseas in a low tax environment.
Apr 03 06:08:36 <mjr_>	mircea_popescu: you were one of the first to offer financial company news over twitter, lol SEC agrees
Apr 03 06:08:37 <bgupta>	(Assuming there are profits of course)
Apr 03 06:08:47 <mjr_>	oh yes of course
Apr 03 06:08:53 <mjr_>	i meant use exchanges to move from fiat to btc
Apr 03 06:09:05 <mjr_>	which is usually the bottleneck
Apr 03 06:09:41 <mjr_>	;;ticker
Apr 03 06:09:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.00000, Best ask: 131.05362, Bid-ask spread: 0.05362, Last trade: 131.00000, 24 hour volume: 119771.38207326, 24 hour low: 103.75000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 120.69450
Apr 03 06:10:07 <mjr_>	;;calc 120.69450 * 119771.38207326
Apr 03 06:10:08 <gribble>	14455747.0736
Apr 03 06:10:20 <mjr_>	14 mill in last 24 hours...
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Apr 03 06:10:47 <mjr_>	;;calc 14455747 * .006
Apr 03 06:10:47 <gribble>	86734.482
Apr 03 06:10:53 <mjr_>	not a bad day for gox
Apr 03 06:11:06 <mjr_>	maybe lag is a feature not a bug?
Apr 03 06:11:33 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ hm ?
Apr 03 06:11:41 <bgupta>	so how common is bitcoincharts crashing?
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Apr 03 06:11:55 <bgupta>	(It kinda shuts down options trading to some extent)
Apr 03 06:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35499999 BTC [+]
Apr 03 06:12:06 <bgupta>	timing kinda sucked this AM
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Apr 03 06:12:48 <mircea_popescu>	its more common than it should be.
Apr 03 06:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.35499999 = 0.71 BTC [+]
Apr 03 06:13:06 <taub>	i find short term option plays difficult anyway
Apr 03 06:13:10 <bgupta>	  damn it's down again
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Apr 03 06:13:20 <taub>	and i dont think they can be used like that right now
Apr 03 06:13:26 <mjr_>	http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2013/04/02/sec-social-media-ok-for-company-announcements/
Apr 03 06:13:32 <taub>	they are too expensive, and orient themselves on the average price over the last 24h
Apr 03 06:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	a lol
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Apr 03 06:13:49 <taub>	so, maybe for mid to longer term speculation
Apr 03 06:14:05 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Do you find bitcoincharts down a lot or is this unusal?
Apr 03 06:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	they were down for two days straight at some point.
Apr 03 06:14:34 <bgupta>	no better quote source that's more stable?
Apr 03 06:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	while the guy had some sort of emotional breakdown
Apr 03 06:14:46 <mircea_popescu>	not afaik, at least yet. maybe emerging.
Apr 03 06:14:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's a pointless dog to chase atm, we have much bigger problems
Apr 03 06:15:17 <bgupta>	too much new money?
Apr 03 06:15:38 <bgupta>	goxlag.
Apr 03 06:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	for instance. broken code, delusive geeks, mtgox going down
Apr 03 06:15:46 <mircea_popescu>	bunch of security breaches
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Apr 03 06:16:06 <Schadenfreude>	Security breaches? Like Instawallet?
Apr 03 06:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	the newsfeed going down in all this is cosmetic, what's the value of it being up if gox lag is on the 1.2AU level ?
Apr 03 06:16:13 <bgupta>	delusive as in deceitful?
Apr 03 06:16:15 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude and the brazil thing
Apr 03 06:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	and the whatever  else
Apr 03 06:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta nu, like hallucinating.
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Apr 03 06:17:18 <bgupta>	ah, the english word I would use is delusionary.. delusive, is more like deceitful.
Apr 03 06:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	i am aware.
Apr 03 06:17:33 <Schadenfreude>	Brazil thing?
Apr 03 06:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	take the recent fork disaster. it being passed off as a great success, what's that ?
Apr 03 06:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	claiming miners vote and thus there's legitimity, what's that ?
Apr 03 06:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	getting darned close to the line.
Apr 03 06:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-mercado-bitcoin/
Apr 03 06:18:22 <Schadenfreude>	Thanks
Apr 03 06:19:21 <bgupta>	eh, they dodged a bullet, (IE: were lucky) and Bitcoin foundation chief made losing fork folks whole. And they figured out how to avoid issue in future.
Apr 03 06:20:09 <bgupta>	I supose it has it's bad and good. broken code got fixed… bad that broken code existed for so long, even though people knew about it
Apr 03 06:20:37 <bgupta>	the loss of distributed mining is a big issue
Apr 03 06:20:46 <bgupta>	(I agree with you there)
Apr 03 06:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude iof we believe the frenchies (ie, no funds lost) then the brazil thing is way weorse.
Apr 03 06:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta you don't follow.
Apr 03 06:21:30 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, add bitcoinrain to the mix
Apr 03 06:21:41 <mircea_popescu>	the longer chain was sunk by collusion between people. this is hallmark centralisation.
Apr 03 06:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress i missed that one ?
Apr 03 06:21:59 <TradeFortress>	it's operated by the same guy
Apr 03 06:22:01 <Schadenfreude>	Any estimate on how much money was lost in the brazil incident?
Apr 03 06:22:12 <TradeFortress>	strangely how it went down after me & a few members requested large withdrawls.
Apr 03 06:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	Schadenfreude probably in the millions from what people were saying. no idea.
Apr 03 06:22:20 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress ah
Apr 03 06:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta i agree that a correctly functioning bitcoin would have been fucked in that situation, and so "good" that it was broken.
Apr 03 06:22:44 <TradeFortress>	srsly, "You will get the bitcoins tommorow", tommorow -> site down, 'hacked'
Apr 03 06:22:49 <mircea_popescu>	buyt this doesn't change the fact that it's broken.
Apr 03 06:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	tsk.
Apr 03 06:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	suspicious this
Apr 03 06:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	how large is large TradeFortress ?
Apr 03 06:24:11 <TradeFortress>	about 400 btc total was the withdrawls I know of, but I'm not sure how much coins were lost in bitcoinrain
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Apr 03 06:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	was this rain thing some sort of ponzi ?!
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Apr 03 06:31:00 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: You are correct I don't understand.. I only understand the technical issue with the fork, not the economic or social implications.. is there a more theorough analysis out there?
Apr 03 06:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	not really, i guess.
Apr 03 06:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	but logically thinking : bitcoin is sold as being decentralised, right ?
Apr 03 06:31:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00069537 = 2.7119 BTC [+]
Apr 03 06:32:19 <mjr_>	collusion is not the same as centralization though the effects can be similar
Apr 03 06:32:40 <mircea_popescu>	explain this difference ?
Apr 03 06:33:14 <troc>	the colluding parties are still separate entitites, and may not collude in perpetuity ?
Apr 03 06:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	a, yes. my statement above suffers.
Apr 03 06:33:57 <mircea_popescu>	the case was quite plain central planning : devs said do x, pool op did x.
Apr 03 06:34:02 <mjr_>	yes, that is the difference, but also...you could say that everyone buying bitcoins is "colluding" to raise the price, all our actions are working towards the same goal
Apr 03 06:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	same effect yes, same goal not really.
Apr 03 06:34:23 <mjr_>	or you could say that 51% of voters colluded to elect the candidate they prefer
Apr 03 06:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ but to make that work in the case at hand, parish head told people to vote for x, they did.
Apr 03 06:34:50 <mjr_>	if the bitcoin foundation could have unilaterally negated the fork...centralization
Apr 03 06:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	is this democratic process iyo ?
Apr 03 06:35:16 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ it's not they could have. they in fact did. (and not the bitcoin foundation either, that's an irrelevant little scam by now)
Apr 03 06:35:25 <mjr_>	well...the fact that the choice remained with them means that you may get centralization in effect, but not in cause
Apr 03 06:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	granted.
Apr 03 06:35:35 <mircea_popescu>	but it's still there.
Apr 03 06:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	you have to presume some choice was made. i have my doubts those heads were working.
Apr 03 06:35:55 <mjr_>	i just mean that you could have lobbied for the longer chain...or miners who wanted to continue that path could have
Apr 03 06:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	the btc guild guy made a choice that cost his miners ~1-2k btc
Apr 03 06:36:19 <mjr_>	so in the end, whoever can convince the most people will change the course of history...par for the course
Apr 03 06:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	this is irrational on the face.
Apr 03 06:36:33 <mjr_>	well, i agree
Apr 03 06:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 03 06:36:44 <mircea_popescu>	so it still doesn't escape the central planning issue.
Apr 03 06:36:53 <mjr_>	but i think they took into account the fact that a fork could have damaged their long term gains into account
Apr 03 06:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	a move was made that was irrational.
Apr 03 06:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	how do you know this to be the case ?
Apr 03 06:37:07 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they were just sheepishly following ?
Apr 03 06:37:16 <mjr_>	i don't know, they could have been sheepishly following
Apr 03 06:37:19 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 03 06:37:20 <mjr_>	but that is their choice
Apr 03 06:37:23 <mjr_>	to follow
Apr 03 06:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	so it's a problem, all i'm sayin'.
Apr 03 06:37:31 <mjr_>	and they earn the right to do so by having the mining power
Apr 03 06:37:37 <mjr_>	oh i agree its a problem
Apr 03 06:37:39 <mircea_popescu>	i am not disputing their right here.
Apr 03 06:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	i am just trying to delineate the heavier problems we face,
Apr 03 06:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	kinda where discussion started
Apr 03 06:38:01 <mjr_>	but at the end of the day, "the market decides" and it decides to follow gavin i guess
Apr 03 06:38:12 <mircea_popescu>	except it wasn't the market,
Apr 03 06:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	and it wasn't even the miners
Apr 03 06:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	it was two doods.
Apr 03 06:38:20 <mjr_>	yes
Apr 03 06:38:26 <mjr_>	and everyone who chooses to use a pool
Apr 03 06:38:32 <mjr_>	specifically that pool
Apr 03 06:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	except nobody chooses to use a pool
Apr 03 06:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	everyone uses a pool because that's what you do
Apr 03 06:38:46 <mjr_>	you can solo mine...
Apr 03 06:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	there's a lot of weakness baked in at all junctures.
Apr 03 06:38:56 <bgupta>	well you can chose a particular pool...
Apr 03 06:39:04 <mjr_>	now with asics i think you will see more solo mining
Apr 03 06:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta except there's no really distinct ones.
Apr 03 06:39:09 <mjr_>	at least i hope
Apr 03 06:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ perhaps.
Apr 03 06:39:25 <troc>	even reddit is aware of the dangers of too few and big pools
Apr 03 06:39:25 <bgupta>	and when deepbit got close to 50% a bunch of miners left
Apr 03 06:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	obviously as market matures, idiots get pushed out, more money more competence etc stuff will improve.
Apr 03 06:39:36 <mjr_>	also...at the end of the day, miners, and all bitcoin users do rely on the software used to run the network
Apr 03 06:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	but that doesn't change what things are yet.
Apr 03 06:39:50 <fdas>	;; ticker
Apr 03 06:39:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.10522, Best ask: 137.98997, Bid-ask spread: 0.88475, Last trade: 137.98997, 24 hour volume: 119771.38207326, 24 hour low: 103.75000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 120.69450
Apr 03 06:39:56 <mjr_>	so if someone releases something that is obviously borked
Apr 03 06:40:06 <mjr_>	not that this was the case
Apr 03 06:40:15 <mjr_>	i thought the roll back was stupid...why go to the incorrect chain
Apr 03 06:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ i don't think they had a choice tbh.
Apr 03 06:40:30 <mjr_>	why not force old version to upgrade
Apr 03 06:40:51 <mjr_>	well...i think there is always a choice, but i also think most are too stupid to make one, but no choice is a choice
Apr 03 06:40:59 <mjr_>	a choice for the status quo
Apr 03 06:41:29 <mjr_>	i wonder...what would have happened if they hadn't...hard to tell at this point
Apr 03 06:41:30 <TradeFortress>	so tons of drama over betsofbitco.in marking BFL shipping apr 1 as draw :P
Apr 03 06:41:35 <ChaangNoi>	mp btc guild pays for orphand blocks, he lost the 1k oins not the miners
Apr 03 06:41:42 <mjr_>	well, they tried to game the system
Apr 03 06:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi doesn't change much in the equation
Apr 03 06:42:13 <TradeFortress>	ChaangNoi, didn't gmaxwell or gavin donate it?
Apr 03 06:42:17 <TradeFortress>	to pools affected.
Apr 03 06:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	(and gavin paid him iirc anyway - moar central planning nonsense()
Apr 03 06:42:31 <TradeFortress>	central planning from his own coins so.
Apr 03 06:42:37 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress draw ? how is it a draw ?!
Apr 03 06:42:51 <mjr_>	TBH i think that most people cannot face this brave new world
Apr 03 06:43:03 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, I'm guessing owner bet a lot of coins on them shipping.
Apr 03 06:43:07 <ChaangNoi>	i was not picking a side here, just correcting what was said
Apr 03 06:43:08 <mjr_>	and we will see banks that use bitcoins, deposit insurance, chargebacks etc
Apr 03 06:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress ok but it creatges this pernicious "listen to us and we'll insulate you ferom marketplace effects". it's how clinton destroyed the us banking sector
Apr 03 06:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	"lend to black people no matter what"
Apr 03 06:43:27 <mjr_>	lol
Apr 03 06:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	now the dems don't want to sell their own houses wives and daughters to pay for it
Apr 03 06:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	cause ... why, right ?
Apr 03 06:43:57 <mjr_>	hey, you can ask me to lend to whoever you want...if i do it...my fault
Apr 03 06:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress nasty shit.
Apr 03 06:44:04 <mjr_>	if you force me, your fault
Apr 03 06:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ^ check it out lol
Apr 03 06:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ what if i tell you that
Apr 03 06:44:17 <bgupta>	mpoe bots base prices on 24 hour moving average?
Apr 03 06:44:23 <mjr_>	no force in btc, acquiescence but not force
Apr 03 06:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	a. i am your regulator, if you don't i'll fuck you with my nonsensical regulations
Apr 03 06:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	and b. if you do do it i will insulate you from market downturn
Apr 03 06:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	?
Apr 03 06:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta yes
Apr 03 06:44:52 <mjr_>	does that not change the payout spectrum in your favor to do it
Apr 03 06:44:54 <TradeFortress>	mircea_popescu, that is a problem when there's really only one bitcoin client
Apr 03 06:45:01 <TradeFortress>	what would have happened if not everyone used satoshi client
Apr 03 06:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress very much so.
Apr 03 06:45:19 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 06:45:20 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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Apr 03 06:45:23 <TradeFortress>	answer: nothing would have happened, 10% of the users would be unable to trust transactions until they upgrade.
Apr 03 06:45:29 <mjr_>	in the future that will happen...but you will still have issues where people rely on software and are beholden to the developers of said software
Apr 03 06:45:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 06:45:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.50000, Best ask: 135.84774, Bid-ask spread: 0.34774, Last trade: 135.30003, 24 hour volume: 119771.38207326, 24 hour low: 103.75000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 120.69450
Apr 03 06:45:59 <TradeFortress>	mjr_ I still don't like how I can't use v0.3 or something. and not be able to get on the bitcoin network
Apr 03 06:46:00 <pizzaman1337>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 03 06:46:03 <bgupta>	TradeFortress: bitcoincharts are down so bots can't quote
Apr 03 06:46:10 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
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Apr 03 06:46:15 <TradeFortress>	Oh joy.
Apr 03 06:46:18 <pizzaman1337>	:(
Apr 03 06:46:50 <mjr_>	TradeFortress: you can create your own version that gives you what you like about v3 and make it compatible...this is my point, software is not a right
Apr 03 06:47:22 <TradeFortress>	mjr_ backward compatibity should be a right IMO
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Apr 03 06:47:38 <TradeFortress>	I can send emails fine using ancient software.
Apr 03 06:50:18 <jurov>	;;calc 0.00068373*150
Apr 03 06:50:18 <gribble>	0.1025595
Apr 03 06:50:51 <jurov>	s.mpoe at $0.01 already
Apr 03 06:51:52 <jurov>	er.. $0.1
Apr 03 06:52:05 <jurov>	what about bet when it reaches dollar parity? lol
Apr 03 06:52:42 <mjr_>	TradeFortress: i agree...but in a capitalistic sense, you can choose what people offer or make your own, i think for long term adoption backward compatiblity is of course necessary
Apr 03 06:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35499999 BTC [+]
Apr 03 06:53:21 <mjr_>	but this cuts to the core of my point, everyone relies on software developers, unfortunately the software doesn't spring fully formed from the sea foam
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Apr 03 06:54:56 <TradeFortress>	mjr_, unless, rpc standard
Apr 03 06:55:01 <TradeFortress>	who cares what software you use
Apr 03 06:55:11 <mjr_>	TradeFortress: true, and i think that should be where it goes
Apr 03 06:55:43 <mjr_>	but even so, someone releases their version and it works until it doesn't...issues arise and people vote with their feet and dollars
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Apr 03 06:55:59 <mjr_>	its survival of the fittest, but that doesn't always mean pure ideas, that can mean influence
Apr 03 06:56:13 <troc>	hmm at least SMTP has rfcs, suppose we are rehashing what was said after the fork.
Apr 03 06:56:16 <mjr_>	VHS was more fit than BetaMax, even though it was worse as a technology
Apr 03 06:56:54 <mjr_>	from my perspective, what survives is what should have survived, a little tautological i know, but that is how the world works
Apr 03 06:57:08 <mjr_>	the victors write the history books
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Apr 03 06:59:04 <Bugpowder>	heh
Apr 03 06:59:17 <Bugpowder>	I thought it got crazy before I went to bed
Apr 03 06:59:18 <mjr_>	lol Bugpowder: you set them at 119 or 117?
Apr 03 06:59:39 <Bugpowder>	I sold some at 121 and 123
Apr 03 06:59:41 <Bugpowder>	oope
Apr 03 06:59:48 <mjr_>	nice
Apr 03 06:59:53 <Bugpowder>	mpoebot is down?
Apr 03 06:59:56 <mjr_>	yes
Apr 03 07:00:02 <mjr_>	cuz bitcoincharts is down
Apr 03 07:00:20 <pizzaman1337>	it'd be nice to have some kind of backup
Apr 03 07:00:30 <Bugpowder>	well
Apr 03 07:00:34 <pizzaman1337>	you can almost ddos mpex just by ddos'ing bitcoincharts
Apr 03 07:00:47 <Bugpowder>	its probablybetter for mircea_popescu's wallet if it is down :-P
Apr 03 07:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 only the options :p
Apr 03 07:01:33 <pizzaman1337>	options get the most volume, don't they?
Apr 03 07:01:51 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Apr 03 07:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	depends. last month i think they did yea
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Apr 03 07:02:05 <Bugpowder>	this is rediccccc
Apr 03 07:02:14 <ThickAsThieves>	who is buying all these coins, yeesh
Apr 03 07:02:37 <mjr_>	thats whats weird
Apr 03 07:02:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 03 07:02:44 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229470 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 353 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 22 hours, 48 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7770171.80365 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.045
Apr 03 07:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	running up again eh ? silly peoples.
Apr 03 07:02:53 <mjr_>	there is another goxlag that we don't measure quite as well
Apr 03 07:02:59 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bkhj5/it_cant_be_daytraded/
Apr 03 07:03:14 <jurov>	it's probably fake but prolly not
Apr 03 07:03:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets
Apr 03 07:03:17 <mjr_>	people who saw cnbc yesterday or the day before...they can't even get into gox for like 10 days maybe
Apr 03 07:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	the bid/ask volumes tho... lol
Apr 03 07:05:09 <jurov>	european exchanges could accept western union from the US ... hell, even cash in mail would be faster
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Apr 03 07:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	jurov americans are insane about their little country.
Apr 03 07:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	would rather eat paper there than get out.
Apr 03 07:06:29 <ThickAsThieves>	we all knew bitcoin could hit meteoric rises
Apr 03 07:06:37 <ThickAsThieves>	its scary
Apr 03 07:06:50 <bgupta>	http://www.businessinsider.com/why-bitcoin-is-like-no-other-bubble-weve-seen-before-2013-4
Apr 03 07:06:52 <jurov>	meteors fall, not rise, I guess?
Apr 03 07:07:06 <mjr_>	lol that is a great point jurov
Apr 03 07:07:15 <ThickAsThieves>	oh geez
Apr 03 07:07:20 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll have to be more careful
Apr 03 07:07:25 <mircea_popescu>	haha what a turn lol
Apr 03 07:07:47 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 03 07:07:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.78888, Best ask: 140.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21112, Last trade: 140.00000, 24 hour volume: 122604.42532157, 24 hour low: 104.97500, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 122.42927
Apr 03 07:07:52 <troc>	meteors do both, meteorites fall from an earth perspective.
Apr 03 07:08:47 <troc>	whats the mtgox queue like now ?  >9k ?
Apr 03 07:09:10 <Bugpowder>	so when do the real holders start to cash out
Apr 03 07:09:12 <ThickAsThieves>	what happens if prices shoots to 200, and it just holds
Apr 03 07:09:18 <ThickAsThieves>	is this impossible?
Apr 03 07:09:30 <Bugpowder>	too many people with 100k of coins
Apr 03 07:09:34 <jurov>	lol, there's a deposit queue on coinbr, too
Apr 03 07:09:36 <Bugpowder>	100k coins
Apr 03 07:09:58 <Bugpowder>	just waiting
Apr 03 07:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the problem is they kinda don't want to.
Apr 03 07:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is a very dangerous non=participatory run-up by now
Apr 03 07:11:06 <Bugpowder>	I talked to someone that holds 100k last night
Apr 03 07:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	in that a bunch of noobs / "daytraders" in their own mind are cycling the same btc among each other at the exchanges
Apr 03 07:11:19 <mjr_>	"You need to be a special kind of an idiot to implement system as slow and fucked up as mtgox's." -reddit
Apr 03 07:11:20 <Bugpowder>	getting tempted of shaving of a bit
Apr 03 07:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	and when they finally panic they'll expect actual players to buy from them.
Apr 03 07:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	it won't happen over 100.
Apr 03 07:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	so basicvally... any dollar over 100 anyone pays on a btc is a dollar lost.
Apr 03 07:12:07 <Bugpowder>	argh
Apr 03 07:12:11 <Bugpowder>	I wish I was trusted
Apr 03 07:12:15 <troc>	depends on the assumption that it is sheeple day traders
Apr 03 07:12:54 <mjr_>	and it also depends on the demand dropping off way before the new adopters get in
Apr 03 07:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	demand is fueled by price increase expectation.
Apr 03 07:13:15 <mjr_>	yes
Apr 03 07:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	thus a classical bubble.
Apr 03 07:13:20 <mjr_>	yes
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Apr 03 07:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	well... it won't work.
Apr 03 07:13:31 <mjr_>	but there are emergent phenomena
Apr 03 07:13:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 100000
Apr 03 07:13:45 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7998039.7682 USD and would take the last price down to 36.0500 USD, resulting in an average price of 79.9804 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0044 seconds
Apr 03 07:13:49 <mjr_>	and in this case bitcoin is so small that the fuel supply is huge
Apr 03 07:13:49 <mircea_popescu>	^
Apr 03 07:13:51 <troc>	shame there are no stats mtgox demographic
Apr 03 07:14:07 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ it's not really that huge.
Apr 03 07:14:16 <mircea_popescu>	all it takes is telling the few dozen people with money to stfu already.
Apr 03 07:14:19 <mjr_>	the entire world economy?
Apr 03 07:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	the reddit crowd of 50k people with 50 bux each is irrelevant.
Apr 03 07:14:30 <mjr_>	that is the fuel available
Apr 03 07:14:35 <mircea_popescu>	notrly
Apr 03 07:14:44 <mjr_>	how? everyone with fiat could buy bitcoins
Apr 03 07:14:51 <mjr_>	if they chose to
Apr 03 07:14:51 <Bugpowder>	I wish I had confidence that gox wont explode with my money
Apr 03 07:15:04 <mjr_>	now, as they learn more and more
Apr 03 07:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ yeah. and every single guy could get a hot girl
Apr 03 07:15:10 <mjr_>	more may choose to
Apr 03 07:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	if he chose to.
Apr 03 07:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	except not how things work irl.
Apr 03 07:15:18 <mjr_>	not the same at all
Apr 03 07:15:26 <mjr_>	i have x amount of cash, i CAN buy a bitcoin
Apr 03 07:15:30 <mircea_popescu>	no you can't.
Apr 03 07:15:33 <Bugpowder>	fast cash is out
Apr 03 07:15:44 <mjr_>	how can i not buy a bitcoin? i guaranttee i can buy one right now
Apr 03 07:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	on what, coinbase ? :D
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Apr 03 07:16:03 <mjr_>	no probably bitfloor or bitinstant
Apr 03 07:16:17 <mjr_>	within the hour...usually
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Apr 03 07:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	you know what i mean.
Apr 03 07:16:45 <mjr_>	point being, the number of possible adopters is orders of magnitudes higher than current adopters
Apr 03 07:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Apr 03 07:17:01 <mjr_>	so the possible new speculators is huge
Apr 03 07:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	but they don't have to all do it right nao
Apr 03 07:17:05 <mircea_popescu>	nor should they.
Apr 03 07:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	speculators are not adopters.
Apr 03 07:17:11 <mjr_>	and as it looks like a "sure thing" that number will increase
Apr 03 07:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	and retarded trend followers are NOT speculators.
Apr 03 07:17:26 <mjr_>	IMO whoever buys one has "adopted" it
Apr 03 07:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	that's too loose for this convo i think
Apr 03 07:17:39 <mjr_>	perhaps true
Apr 03 07:17:49 <mjr_>	but the point is this...critical mass
Apr 03 07:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	by that logic every time i pay a waitress i'm getting married
Apr 03 07:18:00 <mjr_>	huh? that doesn't follow
Apr 03 07:18:13 <mircea_popescu>	money changing hands does not necessarily reflect any sort of adoption
Apr 03 07:18:29 <mjr_>	i now own a bitcoin...i am a part of the bitcoin economy
Apr 03 07:18:39 <mircea_popescu>	arguably.
Apr 03 07:18:39 <mjr_>	i can sell immediately
Apr 03 07:18:45 <mjr_>	i may not be a long term believer
Apr 03 07:18:55 <mircea_popescu>	so then what have you adopted ?
Apr 03 07:18:57 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox ?
Apr 03 07:18:57 <mjr_>	its like ants and brains
Apr 03 07:19:05 <mjr_>	from this low level base speculation
Apr 03 07:19:13 <mjr_>	ecnomies of scale form and emerge
Apr 03 07:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	economies of scale are a property of production
Apr 03 07:19:27 <mjr_>	phenomena where things that weren't possible become possible
Apr 03 07:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	that has nothing to do with financial speculation.
Apr 03 07:19:51 <mjr_>	for exapmle, i'm western union...i can't move any signifigant amount of money over btc network
Apr 03 07:19:59 <mjr_>	oh wait, now i can...adopt
Apr 03 07:20:08 <mjr_>	furthering the rise
Apr 03 07:20:23 <mjr_>	and creating a platform for the next person to see that it now makes sense for them
Apr 03 07:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	the market cap hasn't been the limiting factor since mid feb.
Apr 03 07:20:39 <mjr_>	well...we have seen bitpay process 5 million dollars in one month
Apr 03 07:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	i understand what you're saying but i think you're focusing on relatively small signals
Apr 03 07:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	whereas there's much larger ones painting a diff picture.
Apr 03 07:21:01 <mjr_>	and i agree...i'm just saying that this is the network effect in action
Apr 03 07:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Apr 03 07:21:29 <mjr_>	every person buying one bitcoin not only gets one bitcoin they also create a positive externality
Apr 03 07:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	this is just a bunch of poor and desperate people who are unemployed and stuck with their computer in  a barely furnished apartment
Apr 03 07:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	hoping they've finally found the way out of the hole.
Apr 03 07:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	it is not that.
Apr 03 07:21:50 <mjr_>	irrelevant
Apr 03 07:22:13 <mjr_>	like saying every person who works a minimum wage job is not part of US economy
Apr 03 07:22:28 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Apr 03 07:22:30 <mjr_>	they are not a large part, but as a group they make up a large portion
Apr 03 07:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	that's not the point tho. the point is that people are buyingsomething they can't afford and haven't researched on the unfounded hope that it will "go up more".
Apr 03 07:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	this will fuck them over.
Apr 03 07:23:07 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 07:23:09 <gribble>	There are currently 41174385 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10050755.7489 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds
Apr 03 07:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	there is no point discussing events and externalities and whatever else. fuck them over, it will.
Apr 03 07:23:29 <mjr_>	i agree
Apr 03 07:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	now that aside, higher mkt cap is great, sure.
Apr 03 07:23:55 <mjr_>	but this is what i was saying...if everyone tomorrow says "i heard of this thing called bitcoin, i will get 1 bitcoin" and there are a million of them
Apr 03 07:24:05 <mircea_popescu>	people with a clue priced out of the market by the lemming mania isn't quite as great,
Apr 03 07:24:06 <mjr_>	that is a hundred million dollars more in the bitcoin economy
Apr 03 07:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	but they'll live.
Apr 03 07:24:13 <mjr_>	signifigant, though each person did something minor
Apr 03 07:24:22 <mircea_popescu>	it's not 1mn worth of bitcoin economy.
Apr 03 07:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	it's 1mn worth of bitcoin fiat value.
Apr 03 07:24:37 <mjr_>	fair distinction
Apr 03 07:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	and this is why the entire adoption thing is so important.
Apr 03 07:24:52 <mjr_>	i totally agree
Apr 03 07:24:53 <mircea_popescu>	if all they do with their bitcoin is try and resell it ...
Apr 03 07:24:57 <mjr_>	but this is bootstrapping 101
Apr 03 07:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	it could have been a fucking vase.
Apr 03 07:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't need to be bitcoin for that purpose
Apr 03 07:25:04 <bgupta>	I tend to agree, that there is a share of people out there buying this shit with money they can't afford to lose. Including So EU folks. However, I do wonder if "real money" will at some point also chose to dip their toes in the water?
Apr 03 07:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	they could go resel tulips
Apr 03 07:25:21 <mjr_>	yes...but tulips didn't actually exist
Apr 03 07:25:25 <bgupta>	heh apt analogy
Apr 03 07:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta you think it hasn't so far ?
Apr 03 07:25:39 <mjr_>	they were trading tulip futures and options on tulips that had never been created and never would
Apr 03 07:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 03 07:25:49 <mjr_>	these bitcoins exist
Apr 03 07:25:53 <mircea_popescu>	so why bother with bitcouin, if you wanna pyramid go trade moonrocks.
Apr 03 07:25:56 <mjr_>	so i don't think that is an apt analogy
Apr 03 07:25:59 <bgupta>	with a 1.3 billion marketcap?
Apr 03 07:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	actually, go trade ltc.
Apr 03 07:26:01 <mjr_>	you could do that
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Apr 03 07:26:07 <bgupta>	ok maybe their little toes
Apr 03 07:26:11 <mjr_>	my point is this, it is too early and most are too stupid to understand
Apr 03 07:26:16 <mjr_>	so buy one
Apr 03 07:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta fucking fate of doom, trying to protect bitcoin from attacks.
Apr 03 07:26:20 <mjr_>	and hold it
Apr 03 07:26:27 <mjr_>	and see what happens with some skin in the game
Apr 03 07:26:40 <mjr_>	most people would say sure why not
Apr 03 07:26:52 <mjr_>	and as far as this distinction between fiat and bitcoin
Apr 03 07:27:04 <mjr_>	what difference does it make if i hold 4 5's or one twenty
Apr 03 07:27:09 <mjr_>	fiat is making change
Apr 03 07:27:36 <mjr_>	that is why the ATM is so important
Apr 03 07:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	500 - Internal server error - Bitcoin Charts
Apr 03 07:27:46 <mjr_>	hold money in bitcoin, transfer money with bitcoin, withdraw in local currency
Apr 03 07:27:54 <mircea_popescu>	that thinfg is becoming a study in creative ways to fail
Apr 03 07:28:19 <mjr_>	not sure about their implementation, but the idea is sound...same as trading "demand deposits" for cash
Apr 03 07:28:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 5 @ 0.27296125 = 1.3648 BTC [+]
Apr 03 07:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	Italian police have seized a record (EURO)1.3 billion ($1.7 billion) in cash and property from a single person, a Sicilian alternative energy entrepreneur alleged to have close ties to the Mafia.
Apr 03 07:28:48 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 03 07:28:49 <mjr_>	bitcoin is layer 2, maybe 3 in a financial OSI model
Apr 03 07:29:05 <mjr_>	we need layer 7 to emerge
Apr 03 07:29:50 <KRS1337>	lol mjr
Apr 03 07:29:54 <mircea_popescu>	seems italy is balancing its budget roman empire style.
Apr 03 07:30:31 <KRS1337>	how can the network keep up with transactions?  transactional data from visa alone is mind boggling.
Apr 03 07:30:47 <KRS1337>	i never understood how ppl can call it a currency, maybe theres something im not understanding.
Apr 03 07:31:00 <mjr_>	currency is the medium of exchange
Apr 03 07:31:08 <KRS1337>	like..it takes a while sometimes to transfer btc just from one point to another
Apr 03 07:31:20 <mjr_>	less time than mailing an envelope of cash
Apr 03 07:31:23 <KRS1337>	right but how can the network keep up
Apr 03 07:31:28 <mjr_>	this is the point
Apr 03 07:31:29 <KRS1337>	what about buying gas
Apr 03 07:31:30 <jurov>	KRS1337: even medium businesses can easily keep up with blockchain growing 1TB/month
Apr 03 07:31:35 <mjr_>	do people use fedwire for everytransaction?
Apr 03 07:31:41 <KRS1337>	am i supposed to wait there while the gas station receives my btc?
Apr 03 07:31:44 <mjr_>	no
Apr 03 07:31:47 <mjr_>	eventually
Apr 03 07:31:56 <KRS1337>	i dun see it..
Apr 03 07:32:01 <jurov>	but easy turnkey solution needs to be engineered
Apr 03 07:32:02 <mjr_>	you will have services that will have enough trust or deposit to be able to do 0 conf
Apr 03 07:32:19 <mjr_>	for example, i have done business with you every day
Apr 03 07:32:23 <mjr_>	i don't need to wait
Apr 03 07:32:29 <KRS1337>	lol yeaaah
Apr 03 07:32:31 <mjr_>	its not even that i trust you as a person
Apr 03 07:32:33 <KRS1337>	tourism?
Apr 03 07:32:35 <KRS1337>	idk
Apr 03 07:32:44 <mjr_>	i just trust that you don't have the ability to double spend (not trivial)
Apr 03 07:32:44 <KRS1337>	dont see it
Apr 03 07:32:57 <KRS1337>	trust...heh
Apr 03 07:33:21 <KRS1337>	just like i was trusting my friend about mining til i realized he was trolling me to buy my gpu's
Apr 03 07:33:32 <KRS1337>	friend of 25 yrs
Apr 03 07:33:35 <mjr_>	as in, pulling off a successful double spend in real life after a face to face transaction is probably very difficult, AND not worht it
Apr 03 07:33:37 <mircea_popescu>	let's get back to what the blaze does well, cause btc not rly : http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/03/man-who-gave-birth-to-three-babies-unsuccessfully-begs-for-a-divorce-in-this-odd-legal-conundrum/
Apr 03 07:34:17 <KRS1337>	i dont see the network at this point to keep up with transactional data sufficient for btc to be a currency..doubt it will evar be there =(
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Apr 03 07:35:03 <mjr_>	KRS1337 that is the point...the network doesn't have to
Apr 03 07:35:35 <mjr_>	banks use fedwire to move around the DELTA from their days transactions, they aggregate and net the transactions first
Apr 03 07:35:44 <mjr_>	and most businesses will have to do that too
Apr 03 07:36:05 <KRS1337>	i dont see btc getting from me to you with that model.
Apr 03 07:36:06 <mjr_>	the same way that mt gox does not publish to the block chain for EVERY trade
Apr 03 07:36:14 <mjr_>	and yet it does, right now
Apr 03 07:36:16 <mjr_>	every day
Apr 03 07:36:21 <KRS1337>	u are talking about having an account with every merchant
Apr 03 07:36:25 <mjr_>	no
Apr 03 07:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ amuysingly, people are still proposibng that bitcoin financials be handled by "colored coins:"
Apr 03 07:36:33 <mjr_>	i'm talking about you having one account
Apr 03 07:36:33 <KRS1337>	oh see then theres stuff im not understanding
Apr 03 07:37:04 <mjr_>	for example, if i have a gox account, and everyone trusts gox, they can take my transaction without even hitting the blockchain
Apr 03 07:37:12 <KRS1337>	first its the "colored" coins then its..."whites" only accepted here ma'am
Apr 03 07:37:26 <mjr_>	this is what i was saying about "bitcoin is layer 1 or 2 maybe 3 of the financial OSI model"
Apr 03 07:37:36 <mjr_>	gox would be like a layer 4
Apr 03 07:37:37 <KRS1337>	ohhhhhhhhhhhhh i see
Apr 03 07:37:37 <TradeFortress>	mjr_ and I strongly think it'll happen
Apr 03 07:37:46 <KRS1337>	I gottcha =D
Apr 03 07:37:49 <mjr_>	and eventually we will see layers 5-7
Apr 03 07:37:59 <KRS1337>	yep
Apr 03 07:38:26 <mjr_>	anyway, i have to do some work, but i like the anarchy of a free market, whatever happens is supposed to happen, how well you do depends on your skill and risk profile
Apr 03 07:38:45 <mjr_>	financial darwinism
Apr 03 07:38:53 <KRS1337>	have a good one =D
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Apr 03 07:43:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C047T] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC
Apr 03 07:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed.
Apr 03 07:47:42 <ThickAsThieves>	litecoin at .043
Apr 03 07:47:46 <ThickAsThieves>	stop the madness
Apr 03 07:48:10 <KRS1337>	huh
Apr 03 07:48:15 <KRS1337>	litecoin at 5.48
Apr 03 07:48:38 <KRS1337>	does btc drive ltc or something or is this spec
Apr 03 07:48:44 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2151.msg28228#msg28228 this made me think of jurov.
Apr 03 07:55:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01002 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 07:56:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.788 BTC [+]
Apr 03 07:56:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7888 BTC [+]
Apr 03 07:56:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7889 BTC [+]
Apr 03 07:56:43 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Apr 03 07:56:44 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.479955 BTC [+]
Apr 03 07:56:52 <error4733>	!last m s.dice
Apr 03 07:56:53 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00310001 BTC [-]
Apr 03 07:57:07 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 03 07:57:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00310001 / 0.00367057 / 0.00400173 (23221 shares, 85.23 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00331136 / 0.00448 (714710 shares, 2,366.66 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.004241 / 0.006225 (1567539 shares, 6,647.93 BTC)
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Apr 03 08:00:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 03 08:00:39 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 03 08:00:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 08:00:46 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 8.573174 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.017180544706 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).
Apr 03 08:04:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00479 = 0.0958 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 08:07:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 21 @ 0.0048 = 0.1008 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 08:17:06 <error4733>	so where is this guy, shortinb BTC @ 34$ ??
Apr 03 08:17:26 <error4733>	shorting*
Apr 03 08:17:54 <Bugpowder>	he's gone
Apr 03 08:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.355 BTC [+]
Apr 03 08:18:04 <Bugpowder>	Edmonton
Apr 03 08:18:16 <Bugpowder>	off in the tar sands
Apr 03 08:18:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00362 = 0.362 BTC [-]
Apr 03 08:18:19 <Bugpowder>	driving a new truck
Apr 03 08:19:14 <error4733>	and watch behind him every 5 min.
Apr 03 08:19:22 <error4733>	watching*
Apr 03 08:19:45 <Bugpowder>	cmon gox
Apr 03 08:19:49 <Bugpowder>	clear mah shit
Apr 03 08:19:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [-]
Apr 03 08:20:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [-]
Apr 03 08:20:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 98 @ 0.003 = 0.294 BTC [-]
Apr 03 08:21:23 <Bugpowder>	did we just freaking stabilize at 140
Apr 03 08:21:58 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 08:22:08 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 08:22:10 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 03 08:22:11 <gribble>	There are currently 41100820 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10190648.8699 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0108 seconds
Apr 03 08:23:46 <unbalanced_>	North America is arriving at its desk.
Apr 03 08:24:09 <mjr_>	ltc ftw?
Apr 03 08:24:58 <mjr_>	shorting at 34 :( poor guy
Apr 03 08:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder yea
Apr 03 08:25:20 <mjr_>	one does not simply naked short bitcoin
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Apr 03 08:26:40 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 03 08:26:52 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 03 08:27:01 <thestringpuller>	?????
Apr 03 08:27:14 <thestringpuller>	;;avgprc
Apr 03 08:27:14 <gribble>	(avgprc <currency> <timeframe>) -- Returns volume-weighted average price data from MtGox. <currency> is a three-letter currency code, <timeframe> is the time window for the average, and can be '24h', '7d', or '30d'.
Apr 03 08:27:19 <thestringpuller>	;;avgprc usd 24h
Apr 03 08:27:30 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 03 08:27:36 <thestringpuller>	srsly?
Apr 03 08:27:39 <thestringpuller>	dafuck
Apr 03 08:27:43 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 08:27:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.10000, Best ask: 140.59898, Bid-ask spread: 0.49898, Last trade: 140.10000, 24 hour volume: 124750.35588336, 24 hour low: 106.50004, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.35842
Apr 03 08:29:33 <mjr_>	could they make the bots sound like the unsullied in game of thrones?
Apr 03 08:29:58 <mjr_>	(more accurately in the series a song of ice and fire)
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Apr 03 08:39:07 <mircea_popescu>	"The Obama administration is engaged in a broad push to make more home loans available to people with weaker credit"
Apr 03 08:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 03 08:39:23 <Bugpowder>	Also Teslas.
Apr 03 08:39:24 <Bugpowder>	http://www.teslamotors.com/true-cost-of-ownership
Apr 03 08:40:26 <Bugpowder>	Why do I get the feeling that the reason the gox price is over 140 is because THEY AREN'T CLEARING BTC DEPOSITS.
Apr 03 08:40:46 <kakobrekla>	dont worry they are clearing wires as well
Apr 03 08:40:48 <kakobrekla>	arent
Apr 03 08:41:11 <Bugpowder>	they are probably making me thousands of dollars right now
Apr 03 08:41:18 <Bugpowder>	by this delay
Apr 03 08:41:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets
Apr 03 08:41:53 <kakobrekla>	you gonna dump?
Apr 03 08:41:56 <mircea_popescu>	have you looked at the ask side ?
Apr 03 08:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.355 = 1.42 BTC [+]
Apr 03 08:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	"Luke Jr. was not only evasive in the thread linked, but he also went out of his way to deceive.  He also deserves a scammer tag IMO, but I guess that's a seperate matter."
Apr 03 08:43:24 <mircea_popescu>	hey, people are starting to notice luke isn't really trustworthy at all ?!
Apr 03 08:43:25 <mircea_popescu>	im amazed.
Apr 03 08:43:45 <SomeoneWeird>	+1
Apr 03 08:43:54 <kakobrekla>	well its church going people, what can you expect
Apr 03 08:44:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 08:44:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.08001, Best ask: 141.08999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00998, Last trade: 141.09000, 24 hour volume: 124551.53625655, 24 hour low: 106.95100, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.48914
Apr 03 08:46:48 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla that's not even it. they have a little scam entreprise going, giga propping bfl, bfl giving money to luke, iot's an entire nest of fuckwittery.
Apr 03 08:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	but they're getting squeezed and yes i see sentences in their future.
Apr 03 08:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess after their unmitigated failure of epic proportions trying to attack sdice they should sorta get exactly how deep in the shit they be.
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Apr 03 08:58:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 03 08:58:23 <gribble>	62896.7954203
Apr 03 09:06:34 <mjr_>	vires in numeris :)
Apr 03 09:07:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C164T] 1 @ 0.12092692 BTC
Apr 03 09:08:22 <Schadenfreude>	;;ticker
Apr 03 09:08:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.10430, Best ask: 141.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49570, Last trade: 141.60000, 24 hour volume: 125115.26791435, 24 hour low: 106.95100, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.71988
Apr 03 09:08:33 <Schadenfreude>	Doesn|t
Apr 03 09:09:17 <Schadenfreude>	Doesn't look like it's correcting today
Apr 03 09:09:38 <Bugpowder>	ITS CORRECTING TO ITS TRUE VALUE $100000
Apr 03 09:10:14 <Schadenfreude>	Might be painful if the bubble is fueled by the stream of just verified mtgox users
Apr 03 09:11:18 <mjr_>	should be interesting
Apr 03 09:11:27 <mjr_>	i don't think most of the money showed up to the party yet
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Apr 03 09:13:21 <bitesak>	april 5th for the coinlabs it seems
Apr 03 09:13:49 <Bugpowder>	based on what/
Apr 03 09:14:02 <Bugpowder>	I signed up in the first hour
Apr 03 09:14:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [+]
Apr 03 09:14:10 <Bugpowder>	heard nothing so far
Apr 03 09:15:01 <Bugpowder>	bot is back
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Apr 03 09:18:59 <Bugpowder>	DO U THINK THIS BUBBLE IS DUE TO THE FB TIPPING APP?
Apr 03 09:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	2001-09-12 02:55:42 Arch [1612111] D  ALPHA  monitor@ccbill.c|report2.ccbill.com: Load high|Load averages high on report2.ccbill.com: 42.54 14.58 24.08 Tue Sep 11 23:56:01 MST 2001
Apr 03 09:20:08 <bitesak>	on their page I think, that buys were delayed until funds cleared on the 5th
Apr 03 09:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	lmao on sept 11 ccbill (pron processor) was having load issues
Apr 03 09:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	2001-09-12 02:56:00 Arch [1425048] C  ALPHA  300~MPfetchData:openConnectionToManager:ERROR CONNECTING:192.168.35.97 : www36 connectToServerPort:socket/socket timed out at /home/crdtdrv/creditderivatives/script/MPfetchData.pl line 342, <SOCK_192.168.35.19> chunk 192972.
Apr 03 09:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	that also sounds happy.
Apr 03 09:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. the new wikileaks is fun.
Apr 03 09:22:10 <TomServo>	new?
Apr 03 09:22:20 <TomServo>	huh, have they really not released anything this year yet?
Apr 03 09:22:28 <TomServo>	;;goxlag --au
Apr 03 09:22:29 <gribble>	(goxlag [--raw]) -- Retrieve mtgox order processing lag. If --raw option is specified only output the raw number of seconds. Otherwise, dress it up.
Apr 03 09:22:42 <TomServo>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 09:22:53 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
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Apr 03 09:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo buncha crap imo
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Apr 03 09:25:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0035 = 1.05 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 09:27:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7889 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 09:30:20 <TomServo>	whups, mtgox 'bad gateway'
Apr 03 09:31:13 <mircea_popescu>	aww
Apr 03 09:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4151 = 4.151 BTC [-]
Apr 03 09:32:42 <mjr_>	greed, for lack of a better word, is good...
Apr 03 09:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.415 = 3.735 BTC [-]
Apr 03 09:33:44 <pigeons>	what's the word on this bitcoin-central stuff? I haven't been following. i guess finally people won't use rails.
Apr 03 09:34:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: why is bot only quoting half the time?
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Apr 03 09:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller no ?
Apr 03 09:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons they've not said.
Apr 03 09:40:05 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 09:40:13 <pgp>	err...  gox down?
Apr 03 09:40:25 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 03 09:40:28 <thestringpuller>	probably
Apr 03 09:40:54 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 03 09:41:05 <pgp>	lag is one thing, but when was the last time that the website was down?
Apr 03 09:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P149T] 1000 @ 0.53221009 = 532.2101 BTC
Apr 03 09:41:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P146T] 1000 @ 0.50349593 = 503.4959 BTC
Apr 03 09:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	mother of god
Apr 03 09:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 1000 @ 0.47535254 = 475.3525 BTC
Apr 03 09:42:02 <thestringpuller>	a few days ago
Apr 03 09:42:07 <thestringpuller>	are those sells?
Apr 03 09:42:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P140T] 718 @ 0.44780886 = 321.5268 BTC
Apr 03 09:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	no, they are buys
Apr 03 09:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap ^oix
Apr 03 09:42:35 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 104.38442482 high: 139.37849244 low: 93.3570601 volume: 14875 btc: 6862.82806499 30 day: no data
Apr 03 09:42:57 <pgp>	that's a lot of puts...
Apr 03 09:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	if mtgox comes out with a hack...
Apr 03 09:43:21 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: I'll have properly called it.
Apr 03 09:43:29 <pgp>	then it might just eb the trade of the century
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Apr 03 09:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] sigh
Apr 03 09:44:11 <[\\\]>	you know its coming
Apr 03 09:44:15 <[\\\]>	they handle thousands of btc
Apr 03 09:44:21 <[\\\]>	and if they're all valued at $125 per
Apr 03 09:44:22 <pgp>	you'd think that there would eb selling on the other exchanges...
Apr 03 09:44:28 <[\\\]>	thats a pretty juicy target
Apr 03 09:44:52 <[\\\]>	but for the record, mtgox.com loads for me
Apr 03 09:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [-]
Apr 03 09:45:05 <[\\\]>	oh look, we're at $141
Apr 03 09:45:47 <thestringpuller>	if mtgox goes hella down long term like tradehill price will plummet
Apr 03 09:46:10 <KRS-1>	shhh
Apr 03 09:46:47 <[\\\]>	;;rate thestringpuller -1 uses the word 'hella'
Apr 03 09:46:47 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
Apr 03 09:47:05 <Scrat>	;;rate thestringpuller 1 hella cool
Apr 03 09:47:06 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
Apr 03 09:47:06 <thestringpuller>	the coinlab deal can't happen fast enough
Apr 03 09:47:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 03 09:47:51 <mjr_>	gox is up for me
Apr 03 09:48:06 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 09:48:17 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 03 09:48:25 <thestringpuller>	they cut off api, is bitcoinity.org up?
Apr 03 09:48:54 <mircea_popescu>	<thestringpuller> the coinlab deal can't happen << yeah
Apr 03 09:49:18 <pgp>	up, but no fresh data
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Apr 03 09:49:35 <pgp>	last trade 39 min ago...
Apr 03 09:49:55 <Scrat>	because making a trading engine that doesn't die with the slightest hint of traffic is ROCKET SURGERY
Apr 03 09:50:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00068037 = 4.2183 BTC [-]
Apr 03 09:50:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00069259 = 5.8524 BTC [+]
Apr 03 09:53:26 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat you're just jealous because they're your competitor.
Apr 03 09:54:31 <pgp>	it just sucks for the bitcoin community as a whole when this shit happens
Apr 03 09:54:31 <mjr_>	it's socket science actually
Apr 03 09:54:40 <pgp>	word
Apr 03 09:54:45 <bgupta>	n mtgox-rt
Apr 03 09:55:08 <mjr_>	;;calc 1777.64s / 60
Apr 03 09:55:09 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Apr 03 09:55:11 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: I fucking wish I could become a competitor. sadly the amount of red tape and paperwork to pull it off is otherwordly
Apr 03 09:55:15 <mjr_>	;;calc 1777.64s/60
Apr 03 09:55:15 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
Apr 03 09:55:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 09:55:20 <mjr_>	;;calc 1777.64/60
Apr 03 09:55:21 <gribble>	29.6273333333
Apr 03 09:55:24 <[\\\]>	lol @ rocket surgery
Apr 03 09:55:27 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
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Apr 03 09:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat im just freely distributing that nonsense, i got a whole semi's worth
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Apr 03 10:03:25 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 03 10:03:25 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 03 10:03:31 <error4733>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 189.40000, Best ask: 189.89898, Bid-ask spread: 0.49898, Last trade: 189.40000, 24 hour volume: 124750.35588336, 24 hour low: 106.50004, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.35842
Apr 03 10:03:42 <mod6>	wat
Apr 03 10:03:55 <error4733>	:trollface:
Apr 03 10:03:55 <Scrat>	error4733: oh u
Apr 03 10:04:05 <pigeons>	well at least s.dice is up
Apr 03 10:04:07 <mod6>	haha
Apr 03 10:04:37 <mod6>	im like 189?!
Apr 03 10:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 03 10:04:51 <mod6>	<--- chowned
Apr 03 10:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	aptly named error
Apr 03 10:04:59 <pigeons>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 10:04:59 <nanotube>	haha
Apr 03 10:05:09 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 03 10:05:33 <nanotube>	we're probably out to neptune by now.
Apr 03 10:06:14 <ThickAsThieves>	whoa
Apr 03 10:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag[goxlag]
Apr 03 10:06:16 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 03 10:06:19 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 10:06:20 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 03 10:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	needs recursion
Apr 03 10:06:26 <error4733>	45 minutes laaaag
Apr 03 10:06:37 <ThickAsThieves>	wtf
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Apr 03 10:07:12 <bgupta>	mtgox ddos
Apr 03 10:07:24 <ThickAsThieves>	ddos of buyers
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Apr 03 10:07:46 <bgupta>	btc-e also ddos
Apr 03 10:07:58 <ThickAsThieves>	campbx up
Apr 03 10:08:02 <pigeons>	yes but that's every day for btc-e
Apr 03 10:08:06 <ThickAsThieves>	selling at 140
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Apr 03 10:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.91 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 10:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 10:17:20 <jcpham>	mtgox is awesome sometimes
Apr 03 10:17:54 <ThickAsThieves>	so do we have any updates or anything
Apr 03 10:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8799 BTC [-]
Apr 03 10:18:06 <jcpham>	check the tweeter
Apr 03 10:18:15 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 03 10:18:19 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 10:18:20 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 03 10:19:09 <[\\\]>	ThickAsThieves: coming soon
Apr 03 10:19:28 <[\\\]>	in other news, bfl shipping soon
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Apr 03 10:20:10 <[\\\]>	;;genrate 1000
Apr 03 10:20:11 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 1000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 6695826.2826, is 0.0751074617539 BTC per day and 0.00312947757308 BTC per hour.
Apr 03 10:20:30 <error4733>	yes please ship this minirig i preorder for 5000btc in august
Apr 03 10:20:33 <ThickAsThieves>	why do i have to auth zendesk to click twitter links now?
Apr 03 10:20:41 <jcpham>	;;genrate 3000
Apr 03 10:20:42 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 3000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 6695826.2826, is 0.225322385262 BTC per day and 0.00938843271924 BTC per hour.
Apr 03 10:20:46 <jcpham>	killing it
Apr 03 10:20:48 <[\\\]>	lol error4733
Apr 03 10:21:01 <[\\\]>	;;genrate 1500000
Apr 03 10:21:02 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 1500000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 6695826.2826, is 112.661192631 BTC per day and 4.69421635962 BTC per hour.
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Apr 03 10:21:05 <error4733>	;;calc 5000*141
Apr 03 10:21:05 <gribble>	705000
Apr 03 10:21:16 <ThickAsThieves>	funny that gox wants to add litecoin
Apr 03 10:21:21 <ThickAsThieves>	cant even handle bitcoin
Apr 03 10:21:22 <jcpham>	[\\\] lend me your hashes for a day
Apr 03 10:21:27 <jcpham>	whenever you are caught up
Apr 03 10:21:30 <jcpham>	just a day
Apr 03 10:21:53 <jcpham>	and by lend i mean gift
Apr 03 10:21:54 <[\\\]>	you can borrow them for .08/GH/Day
Apr 03 10:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8794 BTC [-]
Apr 03 10:22:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.879 = 7.516 BTC [-]
Apr 03 10:22:11 <jcpham>	i'm confused but i agree
Apr 03 10:22:33 <[\\\]>	Send me 8BTC and I'll throw 100GH your way
Apr 03 10:22:36 <pgp>	this will end badly
Apr 03 10:22:50 <jcpham>	for how long?
Apr 03 10:23:13 <[\\\]>	an hour or 24
Apr 03 10:23:14 <jcpham>	;;genrate 100000
Apr 03 10:23:15 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 100000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 6695826.2826, is 7.51074617539 BTC per day and 0.312947757308 BTC per hour.
Apr 03 10:23:19 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 10:23:24 <jcpham>	that's no good
Apr 03 10:23:25 <thestringpuller>	nopesy
Apr 03 10:23:34 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 03 10:23:56 <jcpham>	how about 4BTC instead
Apr 03 10:24:00 <jcpham>	i have 4BTC
Apr 03 10:24:16 <[\\\]>	why would I use hashes for half price?
Apr 03 10:24:26 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 03 10:24:26 <jcpham>	friendship
Apr 03 10:24:28 <thestringpuller>	lolololol
Apr 03 10:24:29 <jcpham>	rainbows
Apr 03 10:24:36 <jcpham>	also unicorns
Apr 03 10:24:53 <thestringpuller>	oh man HIM is plummeting
Apr 03 10:24:57 <thestringpuller>	!ticker H HIM
Apr 03 10:25:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.87900000 / 1.95542273 / 2.04400000 (22 shares, 43.01930000 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.92511728 / 2.08000000 (162 shares, 311.86899996 BTC), 30D: 1.40001001 / 1.80131545 / 2.08000000 (735 shares, 1323.96685265 BTC)
Apr 03 10:25:19 <[\\\]>	jcpham: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484376_10200293317748968_1988410100_n.jpg
Apr 03 10:25:40 <jcpham>	i would eat that unicorn poop
Apr 03 10:25:43 <gesell>	;goxlag
Apr 03 10:25:53 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 10:26:04 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 03 10:26:12 <gesell>	yeeeah
Apr 03 10:26:16 <thestringpuller>	wow gox has turned off all external apis
Apr 03 10:26:25 <gesell>	anyone know whats up?
Apr 03 10:26:38 <thestringpuller>	gox isn't accepting API requests
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Apr 03 10:26:50 <gesell>	not just external api's.  The mtgox website shows the same USD price for the past hour
Apr 03 10:26:54 <Bugpowder>	RIP BITCOIN 4.3.2013
Apr 03 10:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.879 BTC [-]
Apr 03 10:27:15 <deadweasel>	we hardley knew ye
Apr 03 10:27:17 <ThickAsThieves>	question is, will it fo up or down after gox is back
Apr 03 10:27:20 <ThickAsThieves>	go*
Apr 03 10:27:22 <thestringpuller>	down
Apr 03 10:27:33 <jcpham>	guys just remember the bitcoin isn't rocketing up
Apr 03 10:27:42 <jcpham>	the currency used to purchase it is rocketing down
Apr 03 10:27:47 <thestringpuller>	maybe 40 dollars it will go down
Apr 03 10:27:50 <thestringpuller>	;;market --sell
Apr 03 10:27:50 <gribble>	(market sell [--usd] <value>) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market sell order of <value> bitcoins. If '--usd' option is given, <value> denotes the size of the order in USD.
Apr 03 10:27:51 <Bugpowder>	its correcting to the proper level
Apr 03 10:28:04 <error4733>	still 135$ on BTC E
Apr 03 10:28:09 <gesell>	we really should use "the bitcoin" instead of "bitcoin". definitely love seeing the news heads on tv say "the bitcoin"
Apr 03 10:28:12 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 10000
Apr 03 10:28:15 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 1286684.1179 USD and would take the last price down to 116.2000 USD, resulting in an average price of 128.6684 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds
Apr 03 10:28:27 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 100000
Apr 03 10:28:27 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 8014161.6596 USD and would take the last price down to 35.6000 USD, resulting in an average price of 80.1416 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 12.6226 seconds
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Apr 03 10:28:40 <thestringpuller>	Wouldn't take much at all
Apr 03 10:28:46 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe think of it this way, btc has been going up for a while, it needs to seek some sort of value where it reaches a plateau of ups and downs
Apr 03 10:28:55 <ThickAsThieves>	its seeking that value still
Apr 03 10:29:12 <thestringpuller>	well gox is going to cause the price run real quick
Apr 03 10:31:22 <ThickAsThieves>	if you could sell at 140 now would you?
Apr 03 10:31:22 <thestringpuller>	"Database access error, please retry later"
Apr 03 10:31:38 <thestringpuller>	i sell at all price points as it moves in and out
Apr 03 10:31:50 <thestringpuller>	keep coffers even
Apr 03 10:32:01 <deadweasel>	sold 5% at 140 this morn.
Apr 03 10:32:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm gonna sell a lil
Apr 03 10:32:51 <gesell>	is there an irc room for mtgox around?
Apr 03 10:32:58 <ThickAsThieves>	#mtgox
Apr 03 10:33:00 <thestringpuller>	I think coinbas is trying to buy up coins
Apr 03 10:33:06 <gesell>	ThickAsThieves: its closed
Apr 03 10:33:10 <Bugpowder>	bitcoinity has gold charts?
Apr 03 10:33:10 <ThickAsThieves>	oh
Apr 03 10:33:10 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcoinity.org/charts/gold
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Apr 03 10:35:07 <thestringpuller>	check it out
Apr 03 10:35:13 <thestringpuller>	woowoowoowoo
Apr 03 10:35:13 <Bugpowder>	I love that everything is down but mpoebot
Apr 03 10:35:26 <thestringpuller>	if you guys have calls I'd sell them
Apr 03 10:35:27 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 03 10:35:42 <Bugpowder>	whyy??
Apr 03 10:35:45 <ThickAsThieves>	we can't sell them
Apr 03 10:35:49 <Bugpowder>	bot is up
Apr 03 10:35:52 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 10:35:53 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 03 10:36:02 <ThickAsThieves>	using what price?
Apr 03 10:36:05 <Bugpowder>	oh shit
Apr 03 10:36:16 <Bugpowder>	bot is mispricing
Apr 03 10:36:35 <thestringpuller>	sell now!
Apr 03 10:36:36 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 03 10:36:49 <pizzaman1337>	doesn't seem like it's mispricing to me?
Apr 03 10:37:04 <Bugpowder>	oh nevermind
Apr 03 10:37:09 <kakobrekla>	what is the last price anyway?
Apr 03 10:37:09 <Bugpowder>	looking at the wrong strike
Apr 03 10:37:12 <Bugpowder>	lolol
Apr 03 10:37:24 <kakobrekla>	like 35$ ?
Apr 03 10:37:29 <pizzaman1337>	I see 124.41 on bitcoincharts.com, but that's the 24h
Apr 03 10:37:36 <kakobrekla>	ah ok
Apr 03 10:38:05 <kakobrekla>	was there a massive selloff or wtf happend anyway?
Apr 03 10:38:09 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: there is listtransactions with since parameter now
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Apr 03 10:38:43 <ThickAsThieves>	my guess, is that gox couldnt keep up with deposits of any kind, so price went up
Apr 03 10:38:46 <jurov>	although still pretty hairy
Apr 03 10:39:28 <jurov>	and what heppened with gox? bitcoinity shows no heartbeat
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Apr 03 10:40:09 <ThickAsThieves>	my guess, is they are offline trying to catch up, and wont come back til they are comfortable
Apr 03 10:40:23 *	ThickAsThieves is your resident guess man.
Apr 03 10:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	gox is dead.
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Apr 03 10:41:03 <jurov>	"please wait a bit" lol
Apr 03 10:41:07 <thestringpuller>	MagicalTux says the DDos only brought it down for a second, but it's down now because people keep trying to ping it.
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Apr 03 10:41:33 <unbalanced_>	Yeah keep pressing reload everyone, that'll help...
Apr 03 10:41:49 <ThickAsThieves>	should got cloudflare1
Apr 03 10:41:53 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 03 10:42:00 <thestringpuller>	i guess this is like tripping a special kid at the olympics eh mircea_popescu ?
Apr 03 10:42:14 <thestringpuller>	tripping a kid at the special olympics*
Apr 03 10:42:27 <Bugpowder>	[10:39] <@MagicalTux> actually system went down only for a short time, right now it's kept down by all the people trying to access anyway
Apr 03 10:42:48 <Scrat>	thestringpuller: my BS detector is redlining atm
Apr 03 10:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	^
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Apr 03 10:43:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Apr 03 10:43:28 <thestringpuller>	MtGox isn't "special"?
Apr 03 10:43:30 <gribble>	Time since last block: 10 minutes and 1 second
Apr 03 10:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	it just reads to me like "we dunno wtf is going on and have no clue that we don't know"
Apr 03 10:43:39 <kakobrekla>	bitbet is too cheap; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141458.msg1731120#msg1731120
Apr 03 10:43:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 03 10:43:42 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7780288.78529 based on data since last change | 8775595.58404 based on data for last three days
Apr 03 10:43:50 <jurov>	and cloudflare won't help when 100k real ppl with real browser pound something
Apr 03 10:44:03 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Apr 03 10:44:32 <ThickAsThieves>	i kid
Apr 03 10:44:34 <Bugpowder>	Someone tried to sell a Black Lotus, Alpha edition card.  Demand crashed Mt. Gox
Apr 03 10:44:40 <keith_hanson>	jurov: that, heh. Scaling is a bitch :P
Apr 03 10:45:14 <Scrat>	Bugpowder: lold
Apr 03 10:45:42 <mircea_popescu>	keith_hanson you the guy with the radio show ?
Apr 03 10:46:15 <keith_hanson>	mircea_popescu: I have no radio show, ha
Apr 03 10:46:37 <Bugpowder>	r u teh guy with the pedobusting show?
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Apr 03 10:47:10 <keith_hanson>	Bugpowder: You may have me confused with another person, heh
Apr 03 10:47:19 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. with... keith... hanson :D
Apr 03 10:48:29 <keith_hanson>	Wow. That sucks. I need to SEO my name or something :P
Apr 03 10:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.keithontheair.com/ << for the record
Apr 03 10:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	nice webskills on display
Apr 03 10:48:46 <keith_hanson>	yeah. I see that haha
Apr 03 10:49:16 <ChaangNoi>	gox down?
Apr 03 10:49:49 <mod6>	derp mode
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Apr 03 10:50:51 <mod6>	EVERYBODY WAS KUNG-FU FIGHTING ... THOSE CATS WERE FAST AS LIGHTNING
Apr 03 10:50:56 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 03 10:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.87 BTC [-]
Apr 03 10:51:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.32000, Best ask: 141.32001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 141.32001, 24 hour volume: 123106.83272605, 24 hour low: 106.95100, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.99916
Apr 03 10:51:09 <pizzaman1337>	back?
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Apr 03 10:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00069537 = 0.5911 BTC [+]
Apr 03 10:52:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00069692 = 7.3177 BTC [+]
Apr 03 10:52:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00069822 = 3.8402 BTC [+]
Apr 03 10:52:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00069999 = 4.6899 BTC [+]
Apr 03 10:52:44 <TomServo>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 10:52:44 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 6048.679827 seconds. During this time, light travels 12.1214866489 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
Apr 03 10:52:52 <TomServo>	ha
Apr 03 10:52:54 <Bugpowder>	$goxlag --au
Apr 03 10:53:02 <Bugpowder>	oh
Apr 03 10:53:08 <Bugpowder>	u beat me to it
Apr 03 10:53:45 <TomServo>	I dopm'
Apr 03 10:53:47 <mod6>	SOMEONE SET US UP THE BOMB
Apr 03 10:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets
Apr 03 10:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	flatline looks cute.
Apr 03 10:53:51 <TomServo>	don't think you need the --au anymore.
Apr 03 10:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Apr 03 10:54:18 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.111227035522 seconds
Apr 03 10:54:28 <mod6>	:]
Apr 03 10:54:37 <Bugpowder>	now would be a great time to troll tux in #mtgox.
Apr 03 10:54:40 <Bugpowder>	re mpexlag
Apr 03 10:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 03 10:55:25 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 10:55:27 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 03 10:56:01 <kakobrekla>	!baselag
Apr 03 10:56:03 <assbot>	6 weeks.
Apr 03 10:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> was there a massive selloff or wtf happend anyway? < http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136498390721.png
Apr 03 10:57:30 <mircea_popescu>	then it just went to shit from there.
Apr 03 10:57:42 <jurov>	and to think yesterday i mentioned goxlax all the way to Eris...
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Apr 03 10:58:37 <kakobrekla>	this kinda works
Apr 03 10:58:37 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
Apr 03 10:59:18 <kakobrekla>	bitstamp flying blind
Apr 03 10:59:25 <bgupta>	of course after that graph, btc rallied back to 140/141 area, and then mtgox shit the bed
Apr 03 10:59:29 <Scrat>	is this for real? https://campbx.com/images/bxdaily.jpg
Apr 03 10:59:33 <Scrat>	or a troll
Apr 03 11:00:37 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Apr 03 11:00:40 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 34 seconds
Apr 03 11:01:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 11:01:14 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 6145.968388 seconds. During this time, light travels 12.3164518359 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
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Apr 03 11:01:32 <bgupta>	heh https://twitter.com/MtGox lag my ass
Apr 03 11:01:48 <bgupta>	that's their fail whale
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Apr 03 11:03:09 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 11:03:09 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 5455.751923 seconds. During this time, light travels 10.933265768 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
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Apr 03 11:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat looks to me like one of those $50 pci autotesting packages most hosts will do
Apr 03 11:03:51 <bgupta>	90 mins
Apr 03 11:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta exactly
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Apr 03 11:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ still down also
Apr 03 11:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	no wait, up nao
Apr 03 11:04:28 <bgupta>	slowish
Apr 03 11:04:56 <bgupta>	flakey
Apr 03 11:05:24 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 11:05:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.10000, Best ask: 141.69998, Bid-ask spread: 0.59998, Last trade: 141.69998, 24 hour volume: 123106.83272605, 24 hour low: 106.95100, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.99916
Apr 03 11:05:35 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 11:05:36 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 4538.34842 seconds. During this time, light travels 9.0947994198 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
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Apr 03 11:06:45 <error4733>	omg can't wait, it's like chrismas
Apr 03 11:06:50 <ChaangNoi>	BTC China @ $151.56
Apr 03 11:06:51 <ChaangNoi>	Bitfloor @ $145
Apr 03 11:06:51 <ChaangNoi>	Bitstamp @ 133.88
Apr 03 11:06:52 <ChaangNoi>	BTC-E @ $130.07
Apr 03 11:06:53 <ChaangNoi>	BTC 24 @ $152
Apr 03 11:06:59 <error4733>	90$ or 190$ ?
Apr 03 11:07:04 <mircea_popescu>	about 130ish
Apr 03 11:07:16 <kakobrekla>	china will grow larger.
Apr 03 11:07:23 <bgupta>	The interesting thing I find is all these exchanges including mtgox, mpex, btct.co, bf, etc all trade 24x7, without so much as a daily hour of maintenance window. This I believe is unheard of in the finance world. (Certain things do trade like 23 hours a day but on rotating exchanges)
Apr 03 11:07:23 <ChaangNoi>	lol gribble
Apr 03 11:09:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:09:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:09:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.76802 = 6.1442 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 11:13:08 <KRS-1>	is this why mt gox is showing btc ~ $110
Apr 03 11:14:06 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu worth 130 yet?
Apr 03 11:14:45 <kakobrekla>	bah my inner troll is strong sometimes.
Apr 03 11:15:07 <Scrat>	bgupta: what is there to perform maintenance on? this isnt 1980
Apr 03 11:15:48 <ThickAsThieves>	goxlag almost caught up
Apr 03 11:15:49 <Scrat>	bgupta: oh, did you paste that?
Apr 03 11:15:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 11:15:53 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1102.961906 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.21032331025 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
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Apr 03 11:16:38 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: that shit is plastered all over their mainpage like it's an achievement
Apr 03 11:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.38 = 3.8 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 11:21:59 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 11:22:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.27101, Best ask: 140.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.72899, Last trade: 140.00000, 24 hour volume: 118334.05152003, 24 hour low: 107.07900, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 124.83808
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Apr 03 11:24:04 <ChaangNoi>	if anyone gets an AM dividend please let me know how much it is this week. thanks
Apr 03 11:24:14 <ChaangNoi>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 11:24:15 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 912.746648 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.82913406297 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 03 11:24:37 <ChaangNoi>	hmm
Apr 03 11:25:05 <KRS-1>	when ticker is used for quote /trade information which exchange does that come from
Apr 03 11:25:35 <jcpham>	lemme tell you guys
Apr 03 11:25:42 <jcpham>	online resumes are the way to do it
Apr 03 11:26:16 <jcpham>	wget -O resume.html http://fuckyourresume.com/
Apr 03 11:26:43 <kakobrekla>	resumes are bullshit
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Apr 03 11:26:50 <ChaangNoi>	almost down to earth..
Apr 03 11:26:55 <jcpham>	./wkhtmltopdf-i386 ../Documents/resume.html ..Documents/resume.pdf
Apr 03 11:27:01 <jcpham>	i just turned it into a science
Apr 03 11:27:22 <jcpham>	now al i have to do i edit my blogity blog
Apr 03 11:27:46 <jcpham>	./mailresume <recipient>
Apr 03 11:28:02 <jcpham>	so that was fun. i'm changing employers
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Apr 03 11:29:41 <cole_albon>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 11:29:42 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1132.059669 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.2686349015 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
Apr 03 11:30:36 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 11:30:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.27101, Best ask: 137.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.72899, Last trade: 137.00000, 24 hour volume: 118334.05152003, 24 hour low: 107.07900, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 124.83808
Apr 03 11:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat what shit you mean ?
Apr 03 11:31:38 <kakobrekla>	this one is still kickin
Apr 03 11:31:39 <kakobrekla>	Bruce Wagner <bruce@brucewagner.com> Apr 02 05:08PM -0400
Apr 03 11:31:39 <kakobrekla>	Just as I predicted. :-)
Apr 03 11:31:39 <kakobrekla>	Bitcoin hit $116 so far today.
Apr 03 11:31:55 <kakobrekla>	--
Apr 03 11:31:57 <mircea_popescu>	bruce wagner is predicting now ?!
Apr 03 11:32:00 <kakobrekla>	he predicted it.
Apr 03 11:32:06 <kakobrekla>	yea
Apr 03 11:32:23 <thestringpuller>	;;p
Apr 03 11:32:24 <gribble>	Error: "p" is not a valid command.
Apr 03 11:32:45 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 11:32:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.88344, Best ask: 139.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.11656, Last trade: 137.88344, 24 hour volume: 118334.05152003, 24 hour low: 107.07900, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 124.83808
Apr 03 11:33:15 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 89
Apr 03 11:33:17 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 80
Apr 03 11:33:18 <gribble>	There are currently 30446.462 bitcoins demanded at or over 89.0 USD, worth 3226430.31489 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0114 seconds
Apr 03 11:33:18 <gribble>	There are currently 39721.986 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 4008857.00483 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0183 seconds
Apr 03 11:33:26 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 140
Apr 03 11:33:26 <gribble>	There are currently 215.97452 bitcoins offered at or under 140.0 USD, worth 30131.2587319 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.3583 seconds
Apr 03 11:34:23 <jurov>	;;asks 200
Apr 03 11:34:23 <gribble>	There are currently 19840.446 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 3184847.51314 USD in total. | Data vintage: 65.2698 seconds
Apr 03 11:35:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 160
Apr 03 11:35:20 <gribble>	There are currently 13118.235 bitcoins offered at or under 160.0 USD, worth 1938768.98293 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0026 seconds
Apr 03 11:35:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.24108289 = 241.0829 BTC [+]
Apr 03 11:35:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C089T] 120 @ 0.28897825 = 34.6774 BTC [+]
Apr 03 11:35:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C092T] 1000 @ 0.2653217 = 265.3217 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:35:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 1000 @ 0.25297192 = 252.9719 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:36:16 <Bugpowder>	wow.
Apr 03 11:36:20 <Bugpowder>	shorting teh calls?
Apr 03 11:36:26 <Bugpowder>	let me buy from u bro
Apr 03 11:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	methinks more like closing out
Apr 03 11:37:03 <Bugpowder>	ah, yes.
Apr 03 11:37:04 <Bugpowder>	obv
Apr 03 11:37:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.24118333 = 241.1833 BTC [+]
Apr 03 11:37:29 <Bugpowder>	but the rally is back on
Apr 03 11:37:43 <ThickAsThieves>	do we know that yet?
Apr 03 11:37:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 11:37:47 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1150.999865 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.30659084222 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
Apr 03 11:37:57 <ChaangNoi>	only 2 million usd to 160 and 10000 plus accounts on gox trying to get verified
Apr 03 11:37:57 <ChaangNoi>	fucking insane
Apr 03 11:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	hardly. about 137 atm
Apr 03 11:38:16 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 1000
Apr 03 11:38:19 <gribble>	A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 132449.7782 USD and would take the last price down to 130.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.4498 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0003 seconds
Apr 03 11:38:27 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 4000
Apr 03 11:38:27 <gribble>	A market order to sell 4000 bitcoins right now would net 510010.3348 USD and would take the last price down to 122.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 127.5026 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 8.5979 seconds
Apr 03 11:38:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets the market depth on that 0.o
Apr 03 11:38:41 <mjr_>	tanking
Apr 03 11:38:43 <thestringpuller>	the price could easily plummet
Apr 03 11:38:49 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 11:38:50 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 11:38:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.00000, Best ask: 134.90730, Bid-ask spread: 1.90730, Last trade: 134.90730, 24 hour volume: 118334.05152003, 24 hour low: 107.07900, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 124.83808
Apr 03 11:38:51 <gribble>	There are currently 40659320 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8820891.03181 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.0256 seconds
Apr 03 11:39:20 <unbalanced_>	This data lull felt like that moment in a movie car crash where everything goes slo-mo. Waaaaiiiittttt, whhhhhuttttt?
Apr 03 11:39:31 <ThickAsThieves>	not over yet
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Apr 03 11:39:39 <unbalanced_>	*feels
Apr 03 11:39:49 <Bugpowder>	gox time
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Apr 03 11:39:55 <unbalanced_>	Stay on target... stay on target!
Apr 03 11:40:01 <Bugpowder>	yeah still waiting for my deposit to clear
Apr 03 11:40:08 <Bugpowder>	36 confirms
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Apr 03 11:43:11 <jurov>	deposits seems cleared
Apr 03 11:43:25 <mjr_>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 11:43:25 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 786.528797 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.57619490277 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 03 11:43:46 <mjr_>	FFS, why don't we just mail them letters with orders
Apr 03 11:44:03 <mjr_>	could have sent the order to mars lol
Apr 03 11:44:04 <mjr_>	jk
Apr 03 11:44:09 <pgp>	wtf 8 point spread on gox!?!
Apr 03 11:44:36 <mjr_>	yeah, crazy this morning, you would see prints on both sides
Apr 03 11:45:03 <topace_>	gox was frozen for a few hours, its still catching up
Apr 03 11:45:10 <topace_>	or, trying to catch up
Apr 03 11:45:11 <pgp>	it's embarassing for any bitcoin evangelist...
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Apr 03 11:45:42 <mjr_>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 11:45:45 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 736.77759 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.47649404099 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 03 11:47:01 <ThickAsThieves>	its possibly embarassing, but could also fuel the fire to newcomers "zomg everyone is clamoring to buy btc, fast fingers!"
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Apr 03 11:49:39 <jurov>	fat fingers, yea
Apr 03 11:49:48 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 03 11:49:48 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 hours, 32 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <smickles> too many people keep trying to use it
Apr 03 11:50:29 *	bgupta wonders if there were still accepting orders during the two hour "lag".. if so there are gonna be a lot of surprised folks one way or another.
Apr 03 11:51:12 <mjr_>	thats what makes it fun bgupta
Apr 03 11:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 57 @ 0.0866432 = 4.9387 BTC [+]
Apr 03 11:52:25 <ThickAsThieves>	someone is still optimistic
Apr 03 11:52:54 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 11:52:55 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 125.31
Apr 03 11:53:06 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 03 11:53:07 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 hours, 36 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <smickles> too many people keep trying to use it
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Apr 03 11:54:54 <ThickAsThieves>	is this AM divs coming in?
Apr 03 11:54:57 <[\\\]>	asicminer div out
Apr 03 11:54:57 <ThickAsThieves>	pretty low
Apr 03 11:54:58 <[\\\]>	0.00255553
Apr 03 11:55:00 <ThickAsThieves>	0.00255553
Apr 03 11:55:02 <ThickAsThieves>	heh
Apr 03 11:55:05 <[\\\]>	as expected
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Apr 03 11:57:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 27 @ 0.7455 = 20.1285 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:57:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.745 = 1.49 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:57:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.745 = 1.49 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:57:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7422 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:57:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7421 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:57:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.74012 = 7.4012 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:57:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.74011 = 2.9604 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:57:53 <[\\\]>	lol
Apr 03 11:58:02 <[\\\]>	asicminer crashing from the div?
Apr 03 11:58:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.737 = 3.685 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:58:22 <[\\\]>	its down a whole .0054~
Apr 03 11:58:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.7355 = 9.5615 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:58:27 <[\\\]>	uh oh
Apr 03 11:58:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.735 = 1.47 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:58:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.733001 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:58:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7313 BTC [-]
Apr 03 11:58:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7301 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 11:59:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.715 = 1.43 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:00:39 <[\\\]>	oh noes!
Apr 03 12:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.315 = 1.89 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:01:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.3105 = 6.21 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:01:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31000001 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:01:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:01:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:01:16 <[\\\]>	not dice too!
Apr 03 12:01:25 <[\\\]>	the end is near
Apr 03 12:01:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 276 @ 0.00362 = 0.9991 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:02:01 <Namworld>	People cashing out?
Apr 03 12:02:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00361 = 0.0108 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:02:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 80 @ 0.0036 = 0.288 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:02:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.00356 = 1.78 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:02:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00355 = 0.0355 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:02:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 54 @ 0.00352 = 0.1901 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:02:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0041 = 2.05 BTC [+]
Apr 03 12:02:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.003516 = 0.3516 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:03:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 900 @ 0.003516 = 3.1644 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	<pgp> it's embarassing for any bitcoin evangelist... << they're not here, blessfully.
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Apr 03 12:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.38 = 4.94 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 03 12:04:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.10000, Best ask: 136.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 136.45000, 24 hour volume: 118334.05152003, 24 hour low: 107.07900, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 124.83808
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Apr 03 12:04:44 <bgupta>	http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/03/29/this-week-in-ddos-cyberbunker-vs-spamhaus-mtgox-bitcoin-exchange-and-dwolla-sendgrid/
Apr 03 12:04:56 <bgupta>	(old but interesting nonetheless)
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Apr 03 12:05:25 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 12:05:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.10000, Best ask: 136.45000, Bid-ask spread: 1.35000, Last trade: 136.45000, 24 hour volume: 118334.05152003, 24 hour low: 107.07900, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 124.83808
Apr 03 12:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol shed a dollar in a minute
Apr 03 12:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 230 @ 0.24371748 = 56.055 BTC [+]
Apr 03 12:07:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 100 @ 0.25563121 = 25.5631 BTC [+]
Apr 03 12:07:55 <Bugpowder>	gox creditited me!
Apr 03 12:08:05 <[\\\]>	gee, this just screams stable: 24 hour low: 107.07900, 24 hour high: 147.00000
Apr 03 12:08:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 03 12:08:16 <[\\\]>	40% swing in a day
Apr 03 12:08:23 <[\\\]>	yeah, not a bubble
Apr 03 12:08:28 <[\\\]>	totally rational price appreciation
Apr 03 12:08:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C092T] 175 @ 0.27012732 = 47.2723 BTC [+]
Apr 03 12:08:36 <jcpham>	woohoo
Apr 03 12:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] actually i would say bubble averted.
Apr 03 12:08:47 <jcpham>	i see no bubbles here
Apr 03 12:08:48 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: its not popped yet :p
Apr 03 12:08:55 <mircea_popescu>	yeh it is.
Apr 03 12:08:58 <[\\\]>	jcpham, shut yo face
Apr 03 12:09:03 <Namworld>	and the price started back on the rise...
Apr 03 12:09:05 <[\\\]>	;;ticker
Apr 03 12:09:06 <Namworld>	>.>
Apr 03 12:09:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.89949, Best ask: 136.45000, Bid-ask spread: 1.55051, Last trade: 134.89949, 24 hour volume: 122225.75654344, 24 hour low: 107.75000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 125.57761
Apr 03 12:09:16 <Namworld>	We're gonna be at 500 USD/BTC within a week.
Apr 03 12:09:21 <[\\\]>	heh
Apr 03 12:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	not happenin'.
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Apr 03 12:10:04 <Namworld>	and in two weeks, at 10000 USD/BTC
Apr 03 12:10:08 <Namworld>	>.>
Apr 03 12:10:13 <[\\\]>	and in 3 weeks $.20
Apr 03 12:10:16 <ThickAsThieves>	Hey Namworld & Jurov don't forget my transfer plz!
Apr 03 12:10:16 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 12:10:20 <gribble>	There are currently 30825532 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8940110.86194 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds
Apr 03 12:10:25 <Bugpowder>	uh ohes
Apr 03 12:10:28 <Namworld>	Is jurov around?
Apr 03 12:10:37 <ThickAsThieves>	he was :/
Apr 03 12:10:41 <[\\\]>	still only 9M
Apr 03 12:10:43 <jurov>	not anymore
Apr 03 12:10:43 <Namworld>	damn
Apr 03 12:10:47 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 03 12:10:57 <Bugpowder>	the wall at 90 got taken down
Apr 03 12:10:57 <[\\\]>	I love how people mention billion dollar market cap
Apr 03 12:11:02 <[\\\]>	but only 9M of depth
Apr 03 12:11:08 <[\\\]>	they forget to mention the second bit
Apr 03 12:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] because iot's not really notable.
Apr 03 12:11:23 <Namworld>	In 3 weeks... well we can't reach in 3 weeks because the price can't go there. It reaches upward to the infinite before 3 weeks from now.
Apr 03 12:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	you think google has 100bn mkt depth on the books ?
Apr 03 12:11:37 <[\\\]>	nope
Apr 03 12:11:49 <Namworld>	There's some kind of limit... probably the end of the world or something
Apr 03 12:12:01 <Namworld>	and apparently, it causes BTC price to go up >.>
Apr 03 12:12:02 <jurov>	i think there is no leverage, hence no depth
Apr 03 12:12:18 <Namworld>	Maybe the afterlife is digital. You'll need lots of Bitcoins there.
Apr 03 12:12:23 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 12:12:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.00000, Best ask: 135.09999, Bid-ask spread: 1.09999, Last trade: 135.09999, 24 hour volume: 122225.75654344, 24 hour low: 107.75000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 125.57761
Apr 03 12:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	what happened to good old fashion put-your-money-in depth
Apr 03 12:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	everybody with leverage these days
Apr 03 12:12:38 <mircea_popescu>	nobody wants to work for a buck anymore
Apr 03 12:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	also http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2013/04/03/ex-goldman-trader-turning-himself-in-to-authorities/
Apr 03 12:13:02 <jurov>	Namworld, no, they use dead altchains in hell
Apr 03 12:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	The surrender comes after the Commodities Futures Trading Commission unleashed a lawsuit against Taylor in November that alleged he intentionally concealed an $8.3 billion position in the S&P 500 e-mini futures. The CFTC had been seeking civil penalties of $130,000.
Apr 03 12:13:46 <mircea_popescu>	seems proportionate.
Apr 03 12:14:15 <[\\\]>	whats that bitcoinica clone?
Apr 03 12:14:17 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: whoever used to keeping bitcoins on an exchange, learnt the lesson already
Apr 03 12:14:45 <jurov>	[\\\]: bitfinex
Apr 03 12:14:50 <[\\\]>	ah, right
Apr 03 12:14:58 <[\\\]>	I'm sure people on bitfinex are making a killing
Apr 03 12:15:19 <Namworld>	jurov: ahah, makes sense
Apr 03 12:15:40 <Bugpowder>	502 gox
Apr 03 12:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] certainly. prolly time for a bitbet.
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Apr 03 12:18:00 <Bugpowder>	sigh
Apr 03 12:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 50 @ 0.08799794 = 4.3999 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 12:21:42 <bgupta>	uh bid higher than ask?
Apr 03 12:21:50 <bgupta>	bizarro
Apr 03 12:22:02 <bitesak>	http://notice.instawallet.org/
Apr 03 12:22:45 <mircea_popescu>	bitesak whoa.
Apr 03 12:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	whoa whoa whoa.
Apr 03 12:22:54 <bgupta>	when did instawallet fold?
Apr 03 12:23:11 <bitesak>	2 days ago
Apr 03 12:23:12 <Namworld>	online wallet = bad
Apr 03 12:23:43 <bitesak>	I had 0,4BTC which I transferred to fastcash4bitcoin but it never got there..
Apr 03 12:24:11 <bitesak>	and then it closed down. URLs of wallets were showing up in Google
Apr 03 12:24:15 <bgupta>	me never touched it..
Apr 03 12:24:51 <Bugpowder>	do u think Bitcoin is cursed?
Apr 03 12:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.38 = 2.28 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:25:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5076 @ 0.00069692 = 3.5376 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:25:19 <bitesak>	it's backed by drama as someone once said
Apr 03 12:25:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6121 @ 0.00069377 = 4.2466 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:25:41 <bitesak>	all this is to make Bitcoin stronger :)
Apr 03 12:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36 = 0.72 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:26:32 <Bugpowder>	got ask filled at 132.5  ouch
Apr 03 12:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	bitesak totally.
Apr 03 12:26:39 <Bugpowder>	oh wellls
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Apr 03 12:27:11 <Namworld>	Bitcoin is indeed cursed. Cursed by idiots.
Apr 03 12:27:40 <[\\\]>	heh
Apr 03 12:28:40 <Bugpowder>	all i wanted was a bit car, but then I got greedy.  why why why???
Apr 03 12:28:41 <mircea_popescu>	all i have to say, boys and girls, is that if it popped later it'd have been much worse.
Apr 03 12:28:49 <Bugpowder>	dude
Apr 03 12:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	let it simmer a little, it won't get too low, we come to sanity. k ?
Apr 03 12:29:02 <Bugpowder>	u r overconfident about poppage.
Apr 03 12:29:39 <ThickAsThieves>	^
Apr 03 12:30:01 <jurov>	bugpowda i sold some at 117-120 and don't give a fuck about
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Apr 03 12:30:52 <mircea_popescu>	you dispute a broken trend ?!
Apr 03 12:31:14 <Bugpowder>	I called the top at 127 last night
Apr 03 12:31:17 <ThickAsThieves>	well when you rise $47 in one day where do you draw the line?
Apr 03 12:31:24 <Bugpowder>	then 147 happened
Apr 03 12:32:03 <jcpham>	my off-the-cuff math says at least %13 daily deflation to stay on track for 1 trillion usd
Apr 03 12:32:13 <bitesak>	mircea_popescu, do you have that pastebin on mercadoBitcoin brasil handy?
Apr 03 12:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-mercado-bitcoin/
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Apr 03 12:32:40 <bitesak>	thx
Apr 03 12:33:23 <jurov>	lol they still feature this on frontpage: https://mtgox.com/img/quote.gif
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Apr 03 12:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	2011 was a good year for the dinosaurs.
Apr 03 12:34:30 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 12:34:31 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 126.02
Apr 03 12:34:52 <bgupta>	interesting convergence http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
Apr 03 12:35:31 <mircea_popescu>	check out the mega 140 wall
Apr 03 12:35:34 <ThickAsThieves>	people cant decide price for themselves
Apr 03 12:35:45 <ThickAsThieves>	built by you MP?
Apr 03 12:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves neh.
Apr 03 12:36:24 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 12:36:25 <gribble>	There are currently 30863303 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9011317.20884 USD in total. | Data vintage: 112.2002 seconds
Apr 03 12:36:30 <Bugpowder>	ok
Apr 03 12:36:33 <Bugpowder>	I have sold enough
Apr 03 12:36:47 <jcpham>	#bitcoin is creeping up towards 1500 users
Apr 03 12:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C029T] 2 @ 0.77218744 = 1.5444 BTC
Apr 03 12:36:53 <jcpham>	that's double since January
Apr 03 12:36:57 <jcpham>	for sure
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Apr 03 12:48:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4129 @ 0.00069377 = 2.8646 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 12:52:47 <smickles>	$unconfirmed
Apr 03 12:52:58 <mpexbot>	smickles: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 03 12:53:07 <smickles>	well, poo
Apr 03 12:53:41 <jcpham>	medium article is good
Apr 03 12:53:43 <jcpham>	https://medium.com/money-banking/2b5ef79482cb
Apr 03 12:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap ^oix
Apr 03 12:53:58 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 108.2380102 high: 135.79574203 low: 93.3570601 volume: 19607 btc: 8036.29427679 30 day: no data
Apr 03 12:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00317003 = 3.17 BTC [-]
Apr 03 12:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 13096 @ 0.00317002 = 41.5146 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 12:59:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/362/bitfinex-insolvent-by-end-of-april/
Apr 03 12:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	lalala
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Apr 03 13:06:13 <[\\\]>	trolalalal
Apr 03 13:06:22 <jcpham>	a little bit
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Apr 03 13:07:42 <mircea_popescu>	wanna bet ?
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Apr 03 13:10:35 <jcpham>	insider information
Apr 03 13:13:28 <kakobrekla>	lol https://www.kraken.com/market
Apr 03 13:13:45 <kakobrekla>	crash much?
Apr 03 13:14:32 <kakobrekla>	ah nvm
Apr 03 13:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	aww but y!
Apr 03 13:14:46 <kakobrekla>	that was my settings
Apr 03 13:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol you had it set for crash ?
Apr 03 13:15:37 <kakobrekla>	yeah something like that :D
Apr 03 13:15:49 <ThickAsThieves>	it still wants to rally
Apr 03 13:15:59 <ThickAsThieves>	if gox will let it
Apr 03 13:16:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.0048 = 0.0144 BTC [+]
Apr 03 13:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	http://notice.instawallet.org/
Apr 03 13:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	wait a second.
Apr 03 13:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	they pay < 50 btc after 90 days and > 50 btc IF POSSIBLE ?
Apr 03 13:16:44 <mircea_popescu>	so funds were in fact lost.
Apr 03 13:17:52 <Bugpowder>	looks like it
Apr 03 13:18:12 <Bugpowder>	minicyprus
Apr 03 13:18:15 <pizzaman1337>	oh noes
Apr 03 13:18:24 <Bugpowder>	what was that transaction again?
Apr 03 13:18:24 <ThickAsThieves>	its funny how AAPL only goes up when the rest of tech goes down
Apr 03 13:19:12 <bgupta>	tech is a zerosum game no? ;) Apple vs everyone else.
Apr 03 13:19:36 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Apr 03 13:19:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.50000, Best ask: 138.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 138.00000, 24 hour volume: 125538.92052295, 24 hour low: 108.00005, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 126.35150
Apr 03 13:19:43 <Bugpowder>	gawd damnit
Apr 03 13:19:54 <bgupta>	Bugpowder: what is wrong?
Apr 03 13:20:03 <bgupta>	weren;t you just buying?
Apr 03 13:20:12 <bgupta>	at ~130
Apr 03 13:20:28 <Bugpowder>	no
Apr 03 13:20:44 <Bugpowder>	i am a bit loser
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Apr 03 13:21:16 <bgupta>	ahh "got ask filled at 132.5  ouch"
Apr 03 13:21:40 *	bgupta thought you were selling around 140, and buying back.
Apr 03 13:21:43 <bgupta>	(lower)
Apr 03 13:22:08 <Bugpowder>	90% of the time, the best move is to sit on hands
Apr 03 13:23:50 <bgupta>	with the lag trading seems a crapshoot.
Apr 03 13:24:00 <bgupta>	(random lag)
Apr 03 13:27:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00333521 = 3.3352 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 13:32:28 <unbalanced_>	Bugpowder: I concur see quote #1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reminiscences_of_a_Stock_Operator#Quotes
Apr 03 13:33:00 <unbalanced_>	I wish I'd sat tight this morning instead of my derp trades.
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Apr 03 13:34:09 <jurov>	According to media headlines, Slovenia can soon be next to request a financial help from EU. Do you have any plan B to protect your customers funds in case the Cyprus will happen over again?
Apr 03 13:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 03 13:34:18 <jurov>	Bitstamp: Yes, we are in process of opening a UK based bank account.
Apr 03 13:34:26 <jurov>	^ appeared in my fb feed
Apr 03 13:35:35 <bitesak>	sounds stressful
Apr 03 13:35:46 <mircea_popescu>	"we don't have that much money anyway"
Apr 03 13:35:56 <ThickAsThieves>	anyone else have trouble sending bitcoins from WeExchange today
Apr 03 13:35:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0033 = 4.95 BTC [-]
Apr 03 13:36:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0031702 = 0.1585 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 13:37:11 <bitesak>	obviously the UK is a much bigger financial center but still are not immune to a rough ride
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Apr 03 13:38:41 <jurov>	would be interesting if FSA will take any action against bitstamp
Apr 03 13:38:42 <unbalanced_>	When does SDICE officially declare a div or non-div? Today, tomorrow?
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Apr 03 13:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 33 @ 0.33 = 10.89 BTC [+]
Apr 03 13:39:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.325 = 3.575 BTC [-]
Apr 03 13:39:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Apr 03 13:39:31 <bitesak>	unless they have been preparing this for a while, I don't think they will be having a bank account too soon
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Apr 03 13:40:42 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ they have to do it within five days of new month
Apr 03 13:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	unless exceptional circumstances.
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Apr 03 13:42:39 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 03 13:42:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.78000, Best ask: 138.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 138.80000, 24 hour volume: 126892.36002240, 24 hour low: 108.00060, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 126.58123
Apr 03 13:42:46 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 13:42:46 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 226.450443 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.453804152306 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
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Apr 03 13:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	you could have sent a bitcoin straight into the trashbin.
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Apr 03 13:46:29 <Uglux>	https://bitpay.com/amazon
Apr 03 13:46:32 <Uglux>	thefuck?
Apr 03 13:46:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.18861 BTC [+]
Apr 03 13:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	This currently works only with WooCommerce.
Apr 03 13:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	awww.
Apr 03 13:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	i was impressed for a second
Apr 03 13:47:14 <jborkl>	The services BitPay offers have not been directly approved by Amazon.com and customers should not confuse these services offered by the Bitpay WooCommerce plugin as being endorsed, sponsored or approved by Amazon.com.
Apr 03 13:47:35 <jborkl>	too bad
Apr 03 13:47:40 <Uglux>	;)
Apr 03 13:47:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 9 @ 0.1886 = 1.6974 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 13:48:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.1886 = 1.886 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 13:49:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.755 = 3.02 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 13:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Apr 03 13:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.4 = 10 BTC [+]
Apr 03 13:54:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.405 = 1.62 BTC [+]
Apr 03 13:54:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.41 = 6.15 BTC [+]
Apr 03 13:58:01 <Uglux>	and still no update on AMs missing 6Thash...
Apr 03 13:58:43 <ThickAsThieves>	yep i anticipate sell offs this week
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Apr 03 13:59:10 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice has weakened too
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Apr 03 13:59:43 <jborkl>	yet, as of yesterday they were up 750 bitcoins or so, just in the first couple days
Apr 03 14:00:07 <jborkl>	that can change of course, but a really good start
Apr 03 14:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.41 = 0.82 BTC [+]
Apr 03 14:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	Uglux it;'s been 3 months yet ?
Apr 03 14:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
Apr 03 14:05:54 <deadweasel>	http://www.usd2btc.com/   ?
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Apr 03 14:07:05 <Uglux>	yea, i call it a bf-ai-l/avalonism. promising shit. delivering "somthing" + blabla...
Apr 03 14:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.41 = 9.02 BTC [+]
Apr 03 14:12:11 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 03 14:12:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.80000, Best ask: 138.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 138.00000, 24 hour volume: 128828.52600909, 24 hour low: 108.05000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 126.82527
Apr 03 14:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.41 = 2.87 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 14:26:47 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 03 14:26:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.33000, Best ask: 134.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.67000, Last trade: 134.00000, 24 hour volume: 128637.79888326, 24 hour low: 108.45001, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.12429
Apr 03 14:27:09 <Bugpowder>	"To learn that a man can make foolish plays for no reason whatever was a valuable lesson. It cost me millions to learn that another dangerous enemy to a trader is his susceptibility to the urgings of a magnetic personality when plausibly expressed by a brilliant mind."
Apr 03 14:27:35 <Bugpowder>	This is what just happened to me with mircea_popescu's bubble poppin' talk
Apr 03 14:27:52 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?!
Apr 03 14:28:15 <Bugpowder>	I SOLD IT ALL
Apr 03 14:28:18 <Bugpowder>	oh wait
Apr 03 14:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	um
Apr 03 14:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	what, you sold it for less than 133 ?!
Apr 03 14:28:31 <Bugpowder>	no just 20%
Apr 03 14:28:32 <Bugpowder>	whew
Apr 03 14:28:40 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Apr 03 14:28:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.00000, Best ask: 134.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.99900, Last trade: 134.99900, 24 hour volume: 128637.79888326, 24 hour low: 108.45001, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.12429
Apr 03 14:28:45 <Bugpowder>	and now its falling agoin
Apr 03 14:28:59 <bgupta>	Bugpowder: Perhaps a break is in order?
Apr 03 14:28:59 <bitesak>	just sit on your hands
Apr 03 14:29:00 <mircea_popescu>	soooo... whatcher on aboot.
Apr 03 14:29:13 <pgp>	feels like it needs to take a breather...
Apr 03 14:29:39 <kakobrekla>	umm
Apr 03 14:29:48 <Bugpowder>	One month ago I would be so stoked to have this value in my total btc portfolio.  Now I've cashed that same amount out, and still have more left.
Apr 03 14:29:48 <kakobrekla>	did last blockchain glitch happen 1480 blocks ago?
Apr 03 14:30:18 <Bugpowder>	no matter what, I'm not going to buy puts.
Apr 03 14:30:37 <bgupta>	why not? Too expensive?
Apr 03 14:30:39 <Bugpowder>	Well hello text message....
Apr 03 14:30:46 <Bugpowder>	new localbitcoins contact...
Apr 03 14:30:54 <Bugpowder>	I guess I can sell just a bit more.
Apr 03 14:31:01 <Bugpowder>	I always lose on puts.
Apr 03 14:31:19 <Bugpowder>	YMMV
Apr 03 14:31:53 <bgupta>	sigh: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/i-bought-a-bitcoin.html
Apr 03 14:33:20 <bgupta>	Hey can someone explain what the story is with coinlab and mtgox? If I have an exisiting mtgox does that mean I can't trade, or it's a pain to transfer fiat in and out?
Apr 03 14:34:58 <mjr_>	new idea: betting game based on random goxlag numbers...goxlagdice
Apr 03 14:35:46 <saulimus>	someone will analyze the statistics of goxlag on create a strategy based on that...
Apr 03 14:35:52 <saulimus>	on -> and
Apr 03 14:36:03 <Jackmani_>	lol
Apr 03 14:36:30 <bgupta>	mm. there already is one...
Apr 03 14:36:37 *	bgupta called trading btc.
Apr 03 14:37:06 <Jackmani_>	if (lag > 10s) buy at tickerprice - 10%
Apr 03 14:37:52 <mjr_>	lol
Apr 03 14:38:02 <mjr_>	it will be provably unfair to all participants
Apr 03 14:38:11 <bgupta>	chart is quite insane… http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg60zigHourlyztgSza1gSMAzm1g1zm2g25zv even with pullback
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Apr 03 14:39:06 <bgupta>	I think there was a bit of a bumrush after 100 looked like it would hold
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Apr 03 14:44:47 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 03 14:44:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.50000, Best ask: 134.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 134.30000, 24 hour volume: 129330.89554659, 24 hour low: 108.70001, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.38315
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Apr 03 14:49:56 <KRS-1>	thats old though right
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Apr 03 14:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10953 @ 0.00067393 = 7.3816 BTC [-]
Apr 03 14:54:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Apr 03 14:55:02 <pgp>	oh boy
Apr 03 14:55:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.101 = 0.202 BTC [+]
Apr 03 14:55:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.100001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Apr 03 14:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	goxlice ?
Apr 03 14:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	o look. 3k sold brought it down another 10%.
Apr 03 14:57:39 <tiberiusiv>	both US stocks and bitcoin in sell off.
Apr 03 14:57:44 <tiberiusiv>	how coincidential
Apr 03 14:58:00 <Namworld>	stupid gox....
Apr 03 14:58:04 <tiberiusiv>	tiberiusiv called a blow off top starting at 90
Apr 03 14:58:06 <Namworld>	seriously, someone kill them please
Apr 03 14:58:12 <tiberiusiv>	and we went to almost 150
Apr 03 14:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	the power is yours.
Apr 03 14:58:17 <mircea_popescu>	do you use them ?
Apr 03 14:58:21 <KRS-1>	this is just temp?
Apr 03 14:58:39 <tiberiusiv>	KRS-1: no i believe we are forming a significant short term top
Apr 03 14:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Apr 03 14:59:05 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 03 14:59:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.25000, Best ask: 126.93439, Bid-ask spread: 0.68439, Last trade: 126.25000, 24 hour volume: 129330.89554659, 24 hour low: 108.70001, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.38315
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Apr 03 14:59:20 <KRS-1>	seems like it will go further
Apr 03 14:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	Apr 03 14:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	so basicvally... any dollar over 100 anyone pays on a btc is a dollar lost.
Apr 03 14:59:43 <bgupta>	12 point spread on clarkmoody
Apr 03 14:59:55 <KRS-1>	;;ticker
Apr 03 14:59:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.12500, Best ask: 127.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.87500, Last trade: 127.00000, 24 hour volume: 129330.89554659, 24 hour low: 108.70001, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.38315
Apr 03 15:00:01 <bgupta>	seeing trades osilating between 127 and 115
Apr 03 15:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32100001 BTC [+]
Apr 03 15:00:05 <mircea_popescu>	its trading ~117 atm
Apr 03 15:00:39 <dub>	 bob has bitch tits
Apr 03 15:00:44 <Namworld>	Gox is completly useless...
Apr 03 15:00:50 <bgupta>	no the bid.. ask looks a lot higher.. at least for the moment
Apr 03 15:01:00 <bgupta>	s/no/on/
Apr 03 15:01:06 <mircea_popescu>	115s
Apr 03 15:01:30 <jborkl>	look at coinlab
Apr 03 15:01:33 <jborkl>	115
Apr 03 15:01:34 <pgp>	fucking crazy
Apr 03 15:01:44 <mircea_popescu>	no, actually, perfectly healthy.
Apr 03 15:01:51 <mircea_popescu>	the runup past 100 was the crazy part.
Apr 03 15:02:02 <jborkl>	yes, the runup past 100 was nuts
Apr 03 15:02:07 <pgp>	where are the grownups?
Apr 03 15:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	lemmings have hopefully been slaughtered enough to learn for the future.
Apr 03 15:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	but if not...
Apr 03 15:02:22 <bgupta>	I see 125.125, 125.125, 115.123, 115.12156.. huge spread again
Apr 03 15:02:25 <bgupta>	
Apr 03 15:02:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 22 @ 0.00441 = 0.097 BTC [-]
Apr 03 15:02:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 200 @ 0.0044 = 0.88 BTC [-]
Apr 03 15:02:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 86 @ 0.004305 = 0.3702 BTC [-]
Apr 03 15:02:59 <jborkl>	looks like 105 will print here in a minute
Apr 03 15:03:09 <bgupta>	real thin  between 115 and even 134..
Apr 03 15:03:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.004096 BTC [+]
Apr 03 15:03:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 53 @ 0.004096 = 0.2171 BTC [+]
Apr 03 15:03:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.004097 = 0.4097 BTC [+]
Apr 03 15:03:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 154 @ 0.004098 = 0.6311 BTC [+]
Apr 03 15:03:58 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 03 15:04:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00310001 / 0.00331688 / 0.00400173 (29870 shares, 99.08 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00330394 / 0.00448 (727656 shares, 2,404.13 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00422354 / 0.006225 (1578663 shares, 6,667.56 BTC)
Apr 03 15:04:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 03 15:04:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067351 / 0.00068435 / 0.00069999 (215208 shares, 147.28 BTC), 7D: 0.00059218 / 0.0006566 / 0.00069999 (2600753 shares, 1,707.67 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00072363 / 0.00078628 (18234279 shares, 13,195.02 BTC)
Apr 03 15:04:31 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 03 15:04:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.87000000 / 1.94453478 / 2.00000000 (23 shares, 44.72430000 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.92572839 / 2.08000000 (162 shares, 311.96799996 BTC), 30D: 1.40001001 / 1.80151405 / 2.08000000 (737 shares, 1327.71585265 BTC)
Apr 03 15:04:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1246 @ 0.00426 = 5.308 BTC [-]
Apr 03 15:04:42 <bgupta>	As percentages go this isn't really that unusual for btc.. but with the increase in value a 10+ point spread seems wide
Apr 03 15:04:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 746 @ 0.004098 = 3.0571 BTC [+]
Apr 03 15:05:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0041 = 2.05 BTC [+]
Apr 03 15:05:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C131T] 1 @ 0.14307752 BTC [-]
Apr 03 15:05:19 <mircea_popescu>	i would say today is a great day in that disaster was averted
Apr 03 15:05:42 <Uglux>	until the next day
Apr 03 15:06:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 490 @ 0.00426 = 2.0874 BTC [-]
Apr 03 15:06:11 <mircea_popescu>	nah, at least in theory hysteria just needs a coupla slaps.
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Apr 03 15:08:25 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 15:08:25 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: What is your fear in particular? megacrash?
Apr 03 15:08:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.22835, Best ask: 120.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.77165, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 129330.89554659, 24 hour low: 108.70001, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.38315
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Apr 03 15:08:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 490 @ 0.004199 = 2.0575 BTC [+]
Apr 03 15:08:48 <bgupta>	(which breaks all faith in btc)
Apr 03 15:08:50 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 03 15:08:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.70000, Best ask: 120.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.30000, Last trade: 117.70000, 24 hour volume: 129330.89554659, 24 hour low: 108.70001, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.38315
Apr 03 15:08:56 <Bowjob>	ooh crash
Apr 03 15:09:00 <jborkl>	I would think the greatest fear would be the bot gets megaraped
Apr 03 15:09:03 <Bowjob>	;;gox
Apr 03 15:09:03 <gribble>	Error: "gox" is not a valid command.
Apr 03 15:09:06 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 15:09:06 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 388.162939 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.777874183667 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 03 15:09:19 <Bowjob>	ah, we got goxxed again
Apr 03 15:09:55 <Namworld>	goxlag makes me feel like shooting a missile right at their face...
Apr 03 15:10:08 <Namworld>	It's still not fixed... how incompetent can you be?
Apr 03 15:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta there's a fundamental macroeconomic problem at work, as follows :
Apr 03 15:10:39 <mircea_popescu>	the bitcoin holders were done selling.
Apr 03 15:10:42 <pgp>	it's shocking, really, when you consider the magnitude of the opportunity gox has...
Apr 03 15:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	left in the market, newb speculators selling to each other
Apr 03 15:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	turning bitcoin into a sort of "bitcoin gem" by default.
Apr 03 15:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	this is not acceptable. a buncha new kids don't get to run the town.
Apr 03 15:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, the systemic risk they pose is that they'll blow it up then crash it with their desperation, creating fake "proof" that it's "a ponzi"
Apr 03 15:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	just because they're retards and used it as a ponzi.
Apr 03 15:11:49 <pgp>	true dat
Apr 03 15:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	seeing how we're discussing a 1bn+ item here, which is more than a uss carrier with full equipment on board
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Apr 03 15:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	and the wanna-be movers and shakers are... well... you know.
Apr 03 15:13:20 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 15:13:21 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 458.030321 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.917887634921 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 03 15:13:23 <Bowjob>	damn
Apr 03 15:13:24 <Bowjob>	xD
Apr 03 15:13:27 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 03 15:13:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 123.00000, Best ask: 125.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 125.00000, 24 hour volume: 129330.89554659, 24 hour low: 108.70001, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.38315
Apr 03 15:13:49 <pgp>	actually, I believe than an arcraft carrier costs quite a bit more, no?
Apr 03 15:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	about 1bn afaik
Apr 03 15:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	haven't been in the market recently tho
Apr 03 15:15:18 <Scrat>	pgp: quite a lot more
Apr 03 15:15:20 <pgp>	http://www.facethefactsusa.org/facts/New-Aircraft-Carrier-Does-More-with-Less-Crew/
Apr 03 15:15:36 <mircea_popescu>	eh fuck me.
Apr 03 15:15:42 <pgp>	lol
Apr 03 15:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	i stand corrected.
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Apr 03 15:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	i must be on 1990 dollars or some shit.
Apr 03 15:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	aaanyway.
Apr 03 15:16:09 <jborkl>	yeah, 1 billion does not buy the govt much anymore
Apr 03 15:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	of course that's ops cost
Apr 03 15:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	ship itself is only half that
Apr 03 15:17:02 <jborkl>	the water treatment plant the city is builing - ran over budget and cost 1.1 billion
Apr 03 15:17:06 <Uglux>	so we need an aircraftcarrier index. the pizza index is obsolete :)
Apr 03 15:17:08 <jborkl>	in a city of 1 million
Apr 03 15:17:16 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Modern carriers are massive. have neculear reactors, and a huge contingent of very expensive warplanes
Apr 03 15:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl so basically 1k per capita ? scandalous.
Apr 03 15:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta yes yes, i stepped in it :D
Apr 03 15:17:36 <jborkl>	it is not the only plant either
Apr 03 15:17:47 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 15:17:51 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 614.571582 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.23159456924 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 03 15:17:53 <Bowjob>	even goxlag is lagging
Apr 03 15:18:27 <bgupta>	perhaps this one can be had for cheap: http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/2011/03/29/wanna-buy-an-aircraft-carrier/
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Apr 03 15:18:50 <jborkl>	heh, i bought a pizza for rg last year and he pain me 1.5 bitcoins
Apr 03 15:18:52 <jborkl>	lol
Apr 03 15:18:56 <jborkl>	paid
Apr 03 15:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	where's tiberius guy to show me mercedes links when we need him.
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Apr 03 15:20:21 <jborkl>	;;seen topace
Apr 03 15:20:22 <gribble>	topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 22 hours, 31 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <topace>
Apr 03 15:22:05 <jborkl>	I have gotten 3 messages from localbitcoin buyers today
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Apr 03 15:26:08 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 03 15:26:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 124.62312, Best ask: 125.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37688, Last trade: 125.00000, 24 hour volume: 129330.89554659, 24 hour low: 108.70001, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.38315
Apr 03 15:33:19 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 15:33:21 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 03 15:33:31 <bgupta>	down again?
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Apr 03 15:34:54 <jborkl>	mtgox.com 502 bad gateway
Apr 03 15:34:59 <jborkl>	lol
Apr 03 15:35:03 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: You have a test instance with fake data? Want to test playing with API without bot asks/bids disappearing.
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Apr 03 15:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta what is this about ?
Apr 03 15:35:35 <bgupta>	(Not for direct trading just getting quotes I care about)
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Apr 03 15:35:58 <bgupta>	want to script updated quotes.
Apr 03 15:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	o you mean the mpex json ?
Apr 03 15:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	no there's no fake data feed.
Apr 03 15:36:16 <bgupta>	yeah
Apr 03 15:36:18 <bgupta>	ok..
Apr 03 15:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps try on a more copacetic symbol ?
Apr 03 15:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	s.bbet is pretty stable say
Apr 03 15:36:38 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 03 15:36:39 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
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Apr 03 15:37:13 <bowjob>	gox
Apr 03 15:37:15 <pgp>	truly pathetic state of affairs
Apr 03 15:39:09 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Need account to use API? Hoping not for quotes.
Apr 03 15:39:24 <mircea_popescu>	you know this api talk keeps throwing me for a loop
Apr 03 15:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	mpex has no api. it's just some public json/jsonp calls
Apr 03 15:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	and the trade window
Apr 03 15:40:02 <bgupta>	ok..
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Apr 03 15:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	so you know, you can pull the feeds just fine, they're public
Apr 03 15:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	this make sense to you ?
Apr 03 15:41:28 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 03 15:41:29 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 03 15:41:38 <bgupta>	yes.
Apr 03 15:42:16 <bowjob>	aight. mtgox got ddosed
Apr 03 15:42:28 <bgupta>	this is what I wanted http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth.php
Apr 03 15:42:37 <bgupta>	(I think)
Apr 03 15:42:44 <bgupta>	need to pretty print it
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Apr 03 15:45:27 <mircea_popescu>	alrighy.
Apr 03 15:45:37 <bowjob>	instawallet hacked
Apr 03 15:45:41 <bowjob>	lol
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Apr 03 15:46:01 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 03 15:46:02 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 03 15:46:13 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 15:46:13 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 03 15:46:16 <dub>	don't worry guys they are rolling out ltc and nmc
Apr 03 15:46:23 <dub>	that will fix it
Apr 03 15:46:23 <kakobrekla>	and ppcoin
Apr 03 15:46:25 <mircea_popescu>	no novacoin ?
Apr 03 15:46:44 <mircea_popescu>	also, i hope ycombinator has litebase, litelab, namebase, namelab
Apr 03 15:46:49 <jborkl>	pee pee coin
Apr 03 15:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	blablab and tralalab all ready
Apr 03 15:46:57 <jborkl>	?
Apr 03 15:47:00 <pgp>	this gox shit just gets me so hot under the collar...
Apr 03 15:47:04 <dub>	ppcoin is going to buy me an 86
Apr 03 15:48:00 <bowjob>	gox did a runner. the biggest bitcoin scam on the universe
Apr 03 15:48:01 <pgp>	any insight into why they just can't license a matching engine...
Apr 03 15:48:03 <bowjob>	i hope they are proud
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Apr 03 15:48:14 <dub>	pgp: idiocy
Apr 03 15:48:34 <jborkl>	ddos
Apr 03 15:48:49 <dub>	yes they are incompetent because ddos
Apr 03 15:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165880.msg1733865#msg1733865
Apr 03 15:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	this guy... lol
Apr 03 15:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	pgp you understand only recently they had any money ?
Apr 03 15:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	(recently = since about feb)
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Apr 03 15:51:13 <pgp>	I see - success basically caught these guys with their pants down
Apr 03 15:51:29 <jborkl>	no, it made them a massive target
Apr 03 15:51:36 <jborkl>	pants or no pants
Apr 03 15:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	history of mtgox for the more recent bitcoin ppl :
Apr 03 15:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	started about a year after btc as an outgrowth of a game cards trading thing owned by the guy now doing ripple.
Apr 03 15:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	was basically given away to tux because of legal concerns.
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Apr 03 15:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	tux proceeded to get hacked, lose the entire email base, to this day these emails are spammed.
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Apr 03 15:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	tux then proceeded to get hacked, which may or may not have been the fake account they used to house trade, but anyway btc got sold down to 0
Apr 03 15:53:43 <taub>	and why hasnt it made money since forever?
Apr 03 15:53:48 <mircea_popescu>	tux then got outside investors for ~1.5mn
Apr 03 15:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	used this to get offices, hire some employees, get some real servers, etc.
Apr 03 15:54:27 <mircea_popescu>	this put him in the red all through 2012 (plus some hacks and other unsavory shit, plus taking over hacked  stuff like a polish exchange
Apr 03 15:54:41 <bgupta>	jezz down for 20 mins
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Apr 03 15:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	plus making a narrow escape from the EU for not having banking licenses)
Apr 03 15:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	they were marginally profitable once btc went over 10 again, but barely enough to dig investors out of their equity hole
Apr 03 15:55:18 <mircea_popescu>	then the high prices high volumes hit, now they're making enough to be an actual business.
Apr 03 15:55:23 <mircea_popescu>	but they only have for two months, give or take.
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Apr 03 15:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	taking questions.
Apr 03 15:55:44 <taub>	more on that EU escape story?
Apr 03 15:55:44 <jborkl>	very nice rundown mp
Apr 03 15:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	taub had a bank account in france, french authority investigated them
Apr 03 15:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	they offered the theory that they don't need licensing because bitcoin
Apr 03 15:56:10 <dub>	you missed tux being a pompus bag of dicks
Apr 03 15:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	got shut down the next day
Apr 03 15:56:11 <pgp>	accross the uruls on camelback?
Apr 03 15:56:15 <jborkl>	hen I signed up(right after the hack) they gave me a free yubikey- free shipping
Apr 03 15:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	no charges (but maybe a civil penalty, it's unclear)
Apr 03 15:56:33 <taub>	i see
Apr 03 15:56:51 <mircea_popescu>	currently they're also involved into a mess not of their making
Apr 03 15:57:02 <pgp>	?
Apr 03 15:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	whereby they have a bunch of bitcoinica funds which two parties are disputing in nz and ca
Apr 03 15:57:20 <jborkl>	oh yeah, I forgot they still have those
Apr 03 15:57:32 <dub>	thats hardly a burden, they hold btc unitl court ruling
Apr 03 15:57:41 <jborkl>	that is a nightmare
Apr 03 15:57:58 <dub>	holding btc is a nightmare?
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Apr 03 15:58:07 <pgp>	so...  he's a survivor is what you're saying...
Apr 03 15:58:08 <mircea_popescu>	dub if they still have it.
Apr 03 15:58:19 <dub>	he's a bottom feeder
Apr 03 15:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	pgp not rly. btc has no standards is what i'm saying.
Apr 03 15:58:27 <dub>	and in bitcoin that is the best place to feed
Apr 03 15:58:39 <mircea_popescu>	the other "survivor", bitfloor, lost millions of users funds
Apr 03 15:58:45 <mircea_popescu>	opened up for business like nothing happened
Apr 03 15:58:48 <mircea_popescu>	PEOPLE STILL USE THEM.
Apr 03 15:58:52 <dub>	hopefully they stay dossed long enough for a real exchange to open
Apr 03 15:58:55 <pgp>	anybody have any insight to the coinlab terms?
Apr 03 15:58:55 <jborkl>	that place should have just shut down
Apr 03 15:59:11 <mircea_popescu>	dub won't happen, because people have absolutely no preference for quality.
Apr 03 15:59:17 <jborkl>	the best exchange is in the us actually- imo
Apr 03 15:59:18 <mircea_popescu>	they will do things like lend on forum. who cares ?
Apr 03 15:59:21 <jcpham>	so whats new
Apr 03 15:59:26 <dub>	mircea_popescu: they will move if they can never access gox again
Apr 03 15:59:32 <bgupta>	so trades appear to slowly be going through, just websockets are down
Apr 03 15:59:32 <[\\\]>	news?
Apr 03 15:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	yes. to bitfinex.
Apr 03 15:59:33 <jcpham>	i'm sure i can just pick some thing
Apr 03 15:59:42 <jcpham>	some hack, some rally, some press
Apr 03 15:59:48 <jcpham>	what's the best drama
Apr 03 16:00:01 <dub>	all it takes is someone that isnt a) an existing scammer b) from russia to create an alternative
Apr 03 16:00:03 <[\\\]>	jcpham: butterfail labs
Apr 03 16:00:11 <mircea_popescu>	gypsies qualify ?
Apr 03 16:00:12 <jcpham>	luke-jr still scammin
Apr 03 16:00:20 <jcpham>	posting fake asic pics on the internets
Apr 03 16:00:35 <jcpham>	i heard about that
Apr 03 16:00:40 <bgupta>	#mtgox-RT is slowly getting updates
Apr 03 16:00:43 <jcpham>	bfl shipping delayed: out of box tape
Apr 03 16:01:03 <dub>	mircea_popescu: it would take a gyppo with PR that doesnt alienate 80% of potential custies
Apr 03 16:01:15 <jcpham>	^
Apr 03 16:01:21 <jcpham>	i think he referring to someone
Apr 03 16:01:30 <Luke-Jr>	jcpham: love your trolling, claiming my ASIC is fake
Apr 03 16:01:43 <jcpham>	dude i read it on reddit
Apr 03 16:01:47 <jcpham>	it must be true
Apr 03 16:01:53 <dub>	not that I have a problem with that in reference to MPEX, you don't want those 80% but an alt gox needs critical mass
Apr 03 16:01:56 <jcpham>	i can't come up with this gold
Apr 03 16:02:03 <Luke-Jr>	if they've put the effort into faking it, I'll be pretty pissed at having to write new drivers
Apr 03 16:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32100002 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:02:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.32100001 = 1.284 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:02:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.321 = 9.63 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	dub that's only because your nose is too big.
Apr 03 16:02:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.32 = 7.36 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:02:06 <jcpham>	luke-jr i want to defend you on the forums sometimes
Apr 03 16:02:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.30000001 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:02:38 <jcpham>	why does everyone attack luke-jr when all he does is help bitcoin
Apr 03 16:02:43 <dub>	mircea_popescu: it helps me breath up all the white mans air
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Apr 03 16:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham because he helps bitcoin be more like the shithole he lives in
Apr 03 16:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	ie, a house of failure.
Apr 03 16:03:05 <jcpham>	you are so harsh mircea_popescu
Apr 03 16:04:44 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway : i will dare say that a functioning exchange would be a serious problem at this point.
Apr 03 16:04:57 <mircea_popescu>	the fact they suck creates a lot of friction, which insulates us
Apr 03 16:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	which turns out to be critical when idiocy like the recent bubble strikes.
Apr 03 16:05:43 <pgp>	a better way will emerge
Apr 03 16:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	certainly, but in a year or so.
Apr 03 16:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	so far mtgox is a half-baked buggy implementation of capital controls.
Apr 03 16:06:16 <pgp>	I think less
Apr 03 16:06:47 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu what color is your soapbox?
Apr 03 16:07:18 <pgp>	it's the color of money
Apr 03 16:07:46 <[\\\]>	jcpham, that ain't soap
Apr 03 16:08:06 <deadweasel>	lol [\\\]
Apr 03 16:08:27 <jcpham>	thank god for coinlab amirite trollface
Apr 03 16:08:53 <pgp>	so, goxcodes are going away?
Apr 03 16:08:59 <[\\\]>	frakking coinlab
Apr 03 16:09:21 <pgp>	so far coinlab is all talk
Apr 03 16:09:24 <jcpham>	once your new overlords tell you what you can ant do, everything will be fine
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Apr 03 16:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	<pgp> it's the color of money << i like this one.
Apr 03 16:10:05 <jcpham>	there's always bitfloor. you can sell coins for anything over there
Apr 03 16:10:12 <dub>	is coinlab actually an exchange or just handling banking for dwolla users
Apr 03 16:10:18 <dub>	or instead of dwolla
Apr 03 16:10:26 <[\\\]>	they aren't doing anything at the moment
Apr 03 16:10:30 <dub>	I realise this
Apr 03 16:10:34 <jcpham>	dub i think everything is the answer
Apr 03 16:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think you do.
Apr 03 16:10:38 <jcpham>	the exchange
Apr 03 16:10:44 <jcpham>	for sure
Apr 03 16:10:49 <[\\\]>	so then to indicate what they are doing is a bit premature
Apr 03 16:10:54 <pgp>	bitfloor is a good tech all around, but one man show is a problem
Apr 03 16:11:05 <[\\\]>	coinlabs is attempting to be the USD exchanger
Apr 03 16:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	the kid is talented, granted.
Apr 03 16:11:06 <dub>	one idiot show
Apr 03 16:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	but he has the geek disease.
Apr 03 16:11:12 <[\\\]>	and mtgox will be the btc exchanger
Apr 03 16:11:31 <pgp>	i've met with him several times...
Apr 03 16:11:33 <jcpham>	there was an article from this week where Mark basically says mtgox wants coinlab to handle the US, they don't want to fool with anything in the US
Apr 03 16:11:45 <pgp>	you can lead a horse to water
Apr 03 16:11:57 <[\\\]>	oh, it'll drink
Apr 03 16:12:05 <[\\\]>	either willingly or once it passes the hell out
Apr 03 16:12:21 <[\\\]>	hold its head under the water long enough, it'll drink
Apr 03 16:13:28 <deadweasel>	an equestrian, i see.
Apr 03 16:13:35 <[\\\]>	nah
Apr 03 16:13:41 <jcpham>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/timothylee/2013/04/03/four-reason-you-shouldnt-buy-bitcoins/
Apr 03 16:13:50 <[\\\]>	hold any creature underwater long enough and it'll drink
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Apr 03 16:14:08 <deadweasel>	my bad, a biologist.
Apr 03 16:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] even spanish galleons ?
Apr 03 16:14:42 <jcpham>	ok so the link, the name of the article is "4 reasons you shouldn't buy bitcoins"
Apr 03 16:14:49 <jcpham>	last paragraph: Conclusion. With all that said, I think there’s a good chance that Bitcoins will continue to appreciate. I still have the majority of the Bitcoins I bought in early 2012 and I plan to hold onto them for a while to see what happens.
Apr 03 16:14:58 <dub>	5th reason, dicks everywhere
Apr 03 16:14:59 <jcpham>	so fucking classic
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Apr 03 16:15:56 <deadweasel>	he wants cheap btc
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Apr 03 16:17:34 <pgp>	lol
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Apr 03 16:18:37 <pgp>	reagrding his 3rd point...  aren't there plans to possibly prune the blockchain?
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Apr 03 16:18:46 <dub>	heh http://afiler.com/five-bytecoin-note/
Apr 03 16:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	so im looking at the bfl asic and all i can think of is
Apr 03 16:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	dude... where's the fans ?!
Apr 03 16:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	they demo'd a box of fans and then their board is passive cooled ?!
Apr 03 16:19:54 <jcpham>	yep
Apr 03 16:20:08 <dub>	are there more pics or just the luke-jr fakes?
Apr 03 16:20:20 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: you weren't supposed to notice
Apr 03 16:20:41 <ll>	!t h sdice
Apr 03 16:20:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.30000000 / 0.34500832 / 0.40000010 (513 shares, 176.98926940 BTC), 7D: 0.30000000 / 0.38560232 / 0.46500000 (1790 shares, 690.22815553 BTC), 30D: 0.30000000 / 0.46949071 / 0.62950000 (6155 shares, 2889.71533662 BTC)
Apr 03 16:20:49 <mircea_popescu>	dub i was looking at the luke ones
Apr 03 16:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] so now wat ?
Apr 03 16:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	working 41min @180w without fan? April fool
Apr 03 16:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	other ppl noticed too
Apr 03 16:22:11 <jcpham>	what the crap is a bytecoin
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Apr 03 16:22:23 <dub>	whats the chance of dice going back over IPO price?
Apr 03 16:22:23 <jcpham>	and are there 8 bitcoins to a bytecoin
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Apr 03 16:22:29 <jcpham>	otherwise forget it
Apr 03 16:22:31 <dub>	Im thinking slim to no fucking way
Apr 03 16:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 03 16:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00310001 / 0.00331495 / 0.00400173 (29681 shares, 98.39 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00327191 / 0.00439992 (696729 shares, 2,279.64 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00422354 / 0.006225 (1578660 shares, 6,667.54 BTC)
Apr 03 16:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	i'd say it depends on what they do with bets.
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Apr 03 16:23:38 <pgp>	good old fashioned deflation
Apr 03 16:24:01 <pgp>	better to just hold the damn coins
Apr 03 16:24:57 <dub>	jcpham: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164569.0
Apr 03 16:25:07 <dub>	Maria coins
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Apr 03 16:25:33 <dub>	I have some for sale btw
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Apr 03 16:26:38 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 03 16:26:40 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 03 16:27:08 <jborkl>	satoshidice already up 1000 bitcoins this month
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Apr 03 16:27:33 <Bugpowder>	this chart looks ugly
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Apr 03 16:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44899999 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:29:25 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 03 16:29:26 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 03 16:29:44 <pgp>	not that much coin on either side for 10 points...
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Apr 03 16:32:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0125 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:32:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.0125 = 0.0375 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 16:34:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7407 = 1.4814 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:34:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.74 = 1.48 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:34:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 15 @ 0.00177 = 0.0266 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:34:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.733 = 2.932 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:34:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:34:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7006 = 1.4012 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:34:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7005 = 1.401 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:35:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:35:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.69 = 2.76 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:35:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.683004 = 2.049 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:35:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.683004 = 4.098 BTC [-]
Apr 03 16:36:10 <pgp>	not a lot of depth to that book, eh?
Apr 03 16:36:22 <pgp>	holy shit
Apr 03 16:36:25 <Bugpowder>	oh my
Apr 03 16:36:59 <Bugpowder>	feeling better about the cashing out now
Apr 03 16:37:22 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 16:37:23 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 6.54048 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0131070486891 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU).
Apr 03 16:37:37 <Bugpowder>	now about those calls....
Apr 03 16:39:17 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 16:39:18 <gribble>	There are currently 30745238 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8109918.25254 USD in total. | Data vintage: 146.6280 seconds
Apr 03 16:39:23 <Bugpowder>	ugh
Apr 03 16:39:25 <Bugpowder>	weak
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Apr 03 16:40:09 <Namworld>	not weak at all. At least not in the higher priced orderbook
Apr 03 16:42:14 <KRS-1>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 16:42:15 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 03 16:43:06 <Bugpowder>	8.1M is the weakest I've seen since the last flashcrash
Apr 03 16:43:16 <Bugpowder>	although a lot of that was just wiped out
Apr 03 16:43:35 <Bugpowder>	mircera's blog post killed the bubble. :(
Apr 03 16:43:47 <Namworld>	price looks stable now. More bids than asks...
Apr 03 16:44:02 <Namworld>	I have a feeling we're not done yet with this bubble-thing
Apr 03 16:44:36 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu has a blog?
Apr 03 16:46:09 <dub>	so gox is working via api only?
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Apr 03 16:54:09 <Bugpowder>	It might break 100
Apr 03 16:54:19 <pgp>	I think so
Apr 03 16:54:20 <Bugpowder>	whats the 61.8% retrace?
Apr 03 16:54:43 <Bugpowder>	$90.48
Apr 03 16:54:52 <Bugpowder>	Might set some buys up at 91
Apr 03 16:55:06 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham o you didn't klnow ?
Apr 03 16:55:18 <jcpham>	nah negro
Apr 03 16:55:23 <jcpham>	sure did not
Apr 03 16:55:26 <pgp>	here we go...
Apr 03 16:55:28 <Bugpowder>	oh hai 502, my old friend
Apr 03 16:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham must be cause you're new.
Apr 03 16:55:59 <Bugpowder>	U gonna need to buy some credits boy
Apr 03 16:56:16 <jcpham>	i'll get the hang of this internet thing one day
Apr 03 16:56:23 <jcpham>	double-click
Apr 03 16:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	it's spelled double-clit
Apr 03 16:56:55 <jcpham>	my mind just lit up with that visualization
Apr 03 16:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35929989 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3592999 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 16:57:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35929991 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:57:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35929993 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:57:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35929995 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 16:57:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35929997 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:57:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35929999 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:57:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3593 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:57:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35939999 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:57:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3595 = 0.719 BTC [+]
Apr 03 16:57:13 <deadweasel>	is that 4 clicks per clit?
Apr 03 16:57:13 <wao>	hmm
Apr 03 16:57:17 <Namworld>	ok... gox is doing this on purpose...
Apr 03 16:57:18 <wao>	why is sell
Apr 03 16:57:32 <mircea_popescu>	wao probably somebody needed small change.
Apr 03 16:57:44 <wao>	Bugpowder: url for mircera blog post?
Apr 03 16:58:33 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: do you want to be in a documentary re: bitcoin?  Was talking to a super early adopter that has been making a doc for the past 2 years.  I think he has more liquid coin than you...
Apr 03 16:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	not particularly.
Apr 03 16:58:57 <Bugpowder>	aiiight
Apr 03 16:59:23 <Bugpowder>	its actually half doc / half porn.
Apr 03 16:59:30 <Bugpowder>	babes of bitcoin
Apr 03 17:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	wao http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/people-bitcoin-is-not-worth-100-dollars-per-stop-buying
Apr 03 17:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	he just can't spell.
Apr 03 17:00:59 <wao>	hmm
Apr 03 17:01:15 <taub>	< Bugpowder> its actually half doc / half porn.
Apr 03 17:01:15 <taub>	lol
Apr 03 17:02:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.147 = 0.441 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:02:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14319 BTC [-]
Apr 03 17:02:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.143 = 0.858 BTC [-]
Apr 03 17:02:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 20 @ 0.14 = 2.8 BTC [-]
Apr 03 17:02:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00333521 = 5.1696 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:03:00 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 17:03:01 <gribble>	There are currently 30741115 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 7716124.53316 USD in total. | Data vintage: 151.0175 seconds
Apr 03 17:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.45 = 1.35 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:03:06 <Bugpowder>	oh jesus
Apr 03 17:03:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.005 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:03:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 30 @ 0.1313 = 3.939 BTC [-]
Apr 03 17:03:36 <pgp>	isn't there normally more like $10MM on bid side?
Apr 03 17:04:01 <dub>	come on $2
Apr 03 17:04:49 <Bugpowder>	well if by normally you mean in the last 3 days of insane buying, yes.
Apr 03 17:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:05:16 <pgp>	even a week ago...
Apr 03 17:05:25 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 03 17:05:27 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 129.26
Apr 03 17:05:38 <pgp>	a lot of bids have been pulled
Apr 03 17:05:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.125 = 0.375 BTC [-]
Apr 03 17:05:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 40 @ 0.12104 = 4.8416 BTC [-]
Apr 03 17:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.45 = 1.35 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:06:03 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 03 17:06:03 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 12 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <smickles> well, poo
Apr 03 17:06:09 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: hey
Apr 03 17:06:13 <Bugpowder>	yo
Apr 03 17:06:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 75 @ 0.12102 = 9.0765 BTC [-]
Apr 03 17:06:46 <thestringpuller>	!ticker H HIM
Apr 03 17:06:47 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.87000000 / 1.94453478 / 2.00000000 (23 shares, 44.72430000 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.92572839 / 2.08000000 (162 shares, 311.96799996 BTC), 30D: 1.40001001 / 1.80151405 / 2.08000000 (737 shares, 1327.71585265 BTC)
Apr 03 17:07:40 <pgp>	;;asks 200
Apr 03 17:07:40 <gribble>	There are currently 30794.949 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 4689431.10089 USD in total. | Data vintage: 73.3201 seconds
Apr 03 17:10:54 <thestringpuller>	$oix
Apr 03 17:11:02 <thestringpuller>	oops
Apr 03 17:11:06 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 03 17:11:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 93.3570601 / 108.23895332 / 135.79703245 (19608 shares, 8,036.44 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 03 17:11:09 <mjr_>	nice
Apr 03 17:11:19 <mjr_>	let's see how long this lasts
Apr 03 17:11:35 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 80
Apr 03 17:11:38 <gribble>	There are currently 33883.478 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 3259848.25857 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0051 seconds
Apr 03 17:11:54 <bgupta>	so apparently anonymous took up mircea_popescu's call to pretect freedom by preventing the rise of bitcoin, but instead of selling btc as their methodology, they are ing using a ddos against mtgox. Hey if it can't trade it can't rise. ;)
Apr 03 17:12:08 <mjr_>	is mt gox ddos'd?
Apr 03 17:12:14 <bgupta>	sorry for typos..
Apr 03 17:12:24 <bgupta>	yeah
Apr 03 17:12:30 <bgupta>	has been most all day
Apr 03 17:12:37 <thestringpuller>	but it's starting to pull through
Apr 03 17:12:40 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta everybody's been ddos'd all year
Apr 03 17:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	the only difference is they kinda suck at it.
Apr 03 17:12:48 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 03 17:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	(ie, cloudflare and bs)
Apr 03 17:12:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 115.10000, Best ask: 115.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 115.20000, 24 hour volume: 134283.56443513, 24 hour low: 113.47500, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 128.50960
Apr 03 17:14:30 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Well you gotta admit that the ddos took the wind out any thought of a retry at insane rally today.
Apr 03 17:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Apr 03 17:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	135k traded today.
Apr 03 17:15:27 <bgupta>	You think a ddos against the major btc exchange would help a rally?
Apr 03 17:15:36 <Bugpowder>	hmm... how is the reddit sentiment index doing
Apr 03 17:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	it can do either, in principle. why not ?
Apr 03 17:15:50 <deadweasel>	https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions   keeps rising
Apr 03 17:16:01 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, as shockingly crummy service this is, it's not much outside of mtgox normal range.
Apr 03 17:16:05 *	dub suggests to #mtgox that they list on MPEX to raise capital for engine 
Apr 03 17:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	banned in 3 2 1
Apr 03 17:16:15 <jurov>	muhaha
Apr 03 17:16:31 <dub>	<MagicalTux> dub: except that'd be illegla
Apr 03 17:16:34 <jurov>	they should just ask theymos for some of the stash
Apr 03 17:16:42 <jborkl>	wow, that is a lot of unconfirmed
Apr 03 17:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	you know this unconfirmed stuff is starting to worry
Apr 03 17:17:00 <bgupta>	it kinda serves the same purpose of a short circuit, breaking whatever momentum insanity is going on in market
Apr 03 17:17:01 <Bugpowder>	FUck.
Apr 03 17:17:02 <Bugpowder>	I'm Raising My Bitcoin Price Target To $400 Henry Blodget   Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/im-raising-my-bitcoin-price-target-to-400-2013-4#ixzz2PRBAUZVk
Apr 03 17:17:06 <jborkl>	4400, new record
Apr 03 17:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	what with the decrease in nodes it could be actually connectivity issues that prevent txs from making it into mempools
Apr 03 17:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	i see 5.3k
Apr 03 17:17:27 <jborkl>	we are showing 855 nodes today
Apr 03 17:17:39 <jborkl>	oh really, 5.3- really new record
Apr 03 17:17:49 <Bugpowder>	good by 113
Apr 03 17:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl i am thinking : if they aren't well distributed (ie, concentrated in major dc hubs)
Apr 03 17:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	then the latency to move txs around could actually account for some of the uncofirmed pile
Apr 03 17:18:39 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl oryou meant total kb ?
Apr 03 17:18:48 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 17:18:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 113.50000, Best ask: 115.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 115.00000, 24 hour volume: 134283.56443513, 24 hour low: 113.47500, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 128.50960
Apr 03 17:19:00 <deadweasel>	;;nodes
Apr 03 17:19:00 <gribble>	Error: "nodes" is not a valid command.
Apr 03 17:19:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 17:19:05 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 03 17:19:05 <jborkl>	I have seen many people reporting 12-15 hours on transactions with fees
Apr 03 17:19:20 <pgp>	yikes
Apr 03 17:19:21 <deadweasel>	jborkl: i'm up to 6
Apr 03 17:19:25 <jborkl>	depends on what time of day and what is going on
Apr 03 17:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	^ that.
Apr 03 17:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	that supports the connectivity issue.
Apr 03 17:19:38 <deadweasel>	11:32am est
Apr 03 17:19:53 <deadweasel>	still uncnfmd
Apr 03 17:19:58 <ThickAsThieves>	i have a tx with 0 confirms from like 6 hrs ago
Apr 03 17:20:06 <Bugpowder>	$110
Apr 03 17:20:23 <ThickAsThieves>	whats happening?
Apr 03 17:20:30 <Bugpowder>	the correction
Apr 03 17:20:34 <jborkl>	tell you the truth- I noticed after most people rolled out .81
Apr 03 17:21:01 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 17:21:04 <gribble>	There are currently 30744690 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 7807337.72401 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0097 seconds
Apr 03 17:21:12 <deadweasel>	opening in July 2013 'The Correction' starring angelina jolie.
Apr 03 17:21:14 <jborkl>	but, there was also a huge price swing at the same time, so hard to tell
Apr 03 17:21:20 <Bugpowder>	I got bids starting at $91.8  anyone else?
Apr 03 17:21:27 <mjr_>	wow
Apr 03 17:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel some younger chick pls.
Apr 03 17:22:11 <mjr_>	kate upton?
Apr 03 17:22:16 <jborkl>	cavirtex, bid starts at 103 cad
Apr 03 17:22:18 <deadweasel>	starring some jailbait
Apr 03 17:22:25 <Bugpowder>	Bakewell is gonna show back up any minute now
Apr 03 17:22:29 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 03 17:22:43 <mircea_popescu>	Dree Hemingway
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Apr 03 17:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_pmtDGABuoJE/TIhDLD3nYfI/AAAAAAAACHc/qFjrZonBn80/s1600/43881_Dree_Hemingway10_PurpleFW09_10_123_67lo.jpg
Apr 03 17:23:02 <deadweasel>	!!!
Apr 03 17:23:08 <deadweasel>	yes please
Apr 03 17:23:16 <jcpham>	my txn from yesterday that was so screwy confirmed
Apr 03 17:24:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
Apr 03 17:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.45 = 2.25 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:25:14 <jurov>	i think never seen this before on mtgox
Apr 03 17:25:56 <jcpham>	poor gox trading engine
Apr 03 17:26:03 <jcpham>	i think i can, i think i can
Apr 03 17:26:32 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 03 17:26:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.87000000 / 1.94453478 / 2.00000000 (23 shares, 44.72430000 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.92572839 / 2.08000000 (162 shares, 311.96799996 BTC), 30D: 1.40001001 / 1.80151405 / 2.08000000 (737 shares, 1327.71585265 BTC)
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Apr 03 17:26:55 <taub>	I wonder if mtgox is halting on purpose to prevent price crashes
Apr 03 17:27:35 <burnside>	crashing on btc-e
Apr 03 17:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't seem to be workingtoo well if they are.
Apr 03 17:27:52 <taub>	of course it doesnt work :|
Apr 03 17:28:00 <taub>	EU did something where they banned short sales
Apr 03 17:28:05 <dub>	apparently the ddos is mitigated
Apr 03 17:28:08 <taub>	or close down exchanges after a certain % drop
Apr 03 17:28:12 <dub>	please login and sell all your coin
Apr 03 17:28:34 <Bugpowder>	closing down would be the stupidest fucking thing in bitcoinland
Apr 03 17:28:48 <Bugpowder>	close down at the bottom, you don't get a bounce.
Apr 03 17:29:29 <dub>	have you been to bitcoinland? I don't even want to think about the level of stupid you would need to get that low
Apr 03 17:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	taub it's been traditional in fiat to halt trading after drops
Apr 03 17:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	this was originally good and needed, because people needed to arrange backing.
Apr 03 17:30:09 <jborkl>	bottom, wtf are you talking about- we went from $20 to $150
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Apr 03 17:30:14 <taub>	well
Apr 03 17:30:27 <taub>	but not in the time of high speed electronic exchanges
Apr 03 17:30:31 <jborkl>	it did not need to be at 150 yet
Apr 03 17:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, diff thing i agree.
Apr 03 17:30:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P089T] 200 @ 0.08390371 = 16.7807 BTC [-]
Apr 03 17:30:53 <dub>	Bugpowder: what I don't like about today is api was still workign while web is down
Apr 03 17:30:54 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think halting is a good idea in btc.
Apr 03 17:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.45 = 2.25 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:31:06 <Bugpowder>	web is working sometimes
Apr 03 17:31:14 <Bugpowder>	worked for me 10 minutes ago
Apr 03 17:31:21 <dub>	I think its fixed now
Apr 03 17:31:26 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 17:31:28 <dub>	as of 10 minutes ago oslt
Apr 03 17:31:29 <gribble>	There are currently 30759476 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 7586263.08014 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0238 seconds
Apr 03 17:31:31 <bgupta>	inability to trade shakes faith in system and causes people to panic sell.
Apr 03 17:31:57 <Bugpowder>	that guy that had the wall at 90 needs to step in if we ping 90.
Apr 03 17:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.46 = 4.14 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:32:15 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 17:32:16 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 648.276674 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.29913919623 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 03 17:32:19 <taub>	at least it's alive!
Apr 03 17:32:19 <thestringpuller>	!ticker OIX
Apr 03 17:32:21 <assbot>	The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy.
Apr 03 17:32:23 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 03 17:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 93.3570601 / 108.23895332 / 135.79703245 (19608 shares, 8,036.44 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Apr 03 17:32:43 <jborkl>	well, one guy cant stop it all by himself
Apr 03 17:32:44 <mircea_popescu>	what, are we panicking the other way nao ?
Apr 03 17:32:47 <mircea_popescu>	why are people so excitable.
Apr 03 17:33:07 <jborkl>	I don't know
Apr 03 17:33:08 <dub>	I've got a bid at 88.8 because china
Apr 03 17:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	isnt that 555 ?
Apr 03 17:33:32 <dub>	no its tiger penis
Apr 03 17:33:38 <Bugpowder>	that guy had an order for 15 or 20k coins at 90.
Apr 03 17:33:48 <Bugpowder>	maybe 10-15.
Apr 03 17:33:56 <Bugpowder>	he CAN stop it.
Apr 03 17:34:19 <Bugpowder>	but why stop it till it gets that low.
Apr 03 17:36:54 <mjr_>	why not 88.888
Apr 03 17:36:59 <mjr_>	the five eights account
Apr 03 17:37:13 <mjr_>	reference to the account that brought down barings bank
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Apr 03 17:41:18 <taub>	trading below the 24h avg
Apr 03 17:41:32 <taub>	doesnt happen often, but lately hasn't meant much either
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Apr 03 17:45:06 <mjr_>	this is what happens when you fly too close to the sun
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Apr 03 17:45:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009998 BTC [+]
Apr 03 17:45:46 <mjr_>	;;bids
Apr 03 17:45:46 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 03 17:45:50 <mjr_>	;;bids 0
Apr 03 17:45:50 <gribble>	There are currently 30793298 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 7900811.43311 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.9365 seconds
Apr 03 17:46:01 <taub>	i hate being right
Apr 03 17:46:04 <taub>	and not making any money
Apr 03 17:46:09 <mjr_>	lol its the worst
Apr 03 17:46:12 <mjr_>	woohoo
Apr 03 17:46:23 <mjr_>	someone needs to create vix for btc
Apr 03 17:46:30 <mjr_>	oh wait, that might just be btc itself
Apr 03 17:46:51 <mjr_>	what the fuck
Apr 03 17:47:03 <mjr_>	buys finally made it to the engine lol
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Apr 03 17:48:40 <taub>	okay well now i got a fill at leaset :D
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Apr 03 17:49:00 <cole_albon>	bundesbank - $12 bn fraud,   is that a record?
Apr 03 17:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.47 = 7.05 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 17:51:46 <TomServo>	;;market sell 880
Apr 03 17:51:46 <gribble>	A market order to sell 880 bitcoins right now would net 102351.9125 USD and would take the last price down to 115.2000 USD, resulting in an average price of 116.3090 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 64.1445 seconds
Apr 03 17:51:50 <TomServo>	heh
Apr 03 17:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3599 = 1.0797 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 17:55:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 22 @ 0.00478 = 0.1052 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 17:56:51 <jcpham>	damn clones
Apr 03 17:57:11 <kakobrekla>	hey price y u no go down
Apr 03 17:59:00 <thestringpuller>	coinbase and bitinstant still have to fill their orders
Apr 03 17:59:44 <taub>	$avg
Apr 03 17:59:45 <mpexbot>	taub: 128.06
Apr 03 17:59:57 <taub>	good place to put a ask
Apr 03 18:00:09 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 130
Apr 03 18:00:12 <gribble>	There are currently 466.21651 bitcoins offered at or under 130.0 USD, worth 60287.7159388 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Apr 03 18:00:14 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 110
Apr 03 18:00:14 <gribble>	There are currently 4833.1916 bitcoins demanded at or over 110.0 USD, worth 553828.147374 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.8443 seconds
Apr 03 18:00:20 <taub>	oh ;0
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Apr 03 18:02:59 <thestringpuller>	!ticker H HIM
Apr 03 18:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.87000000 / 1.94453478 / 2.00000000 (23 shares, 44.72430000 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.92572839 / 2.08000000 (162 shares, 311.96799996 BTC), 30D: 1.40001001 / 1.80151405 / 2.08000000 (737 shares, 1327.71585265 BTC)
Apr 03 18:04:15 <taub>	lag going up again
Apr 03 18:04:27 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 18:04:28 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 315.371512 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.632000978973 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
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Apr 03 18:13:08 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 150
Apr 03 18:13:08 <gribble>	There are currently 17156.475 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 2459578.89327 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.4093 seconds
Apr 03 18:13:16 <tiberiusiv>	barely any
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Apr 03 18:16:17 <cole_albon>	;;ticker
Apr 03 18:16:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 123.35032, Best ask: 123.38102, Bid-ask spread: 0.03070, Last trade: 123.38102, 24 hour volume: 138444.29191506, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 128.04278
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Apr 03 18:28:13 <jborkl>	ohh 113
Apr 03 18:30:51 <dub>	;;asks 130
Apr 03 18:30:56 <gribble>	There are currently 2043.25 bitcoins offered at or under 130.0 USD, worth 260098.916781 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
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Apr 03 18:30:59 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Apr 03 18:31:04 <kakobrekla>	price is between 100 and 130
Apr 03 18:31:10 <jborkl>	nm 120 now\
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Apr 03 18:36:34 <bgupta>	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/03/heres-a-simple-60-second-primer-on-bitcoin/
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Apr 03 18:43:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 52 @ 0.00419 = 0.2179 BTC [-]
Apr 03 18:47:04 <KRS1337>	;;asks 135
Apr 03 18:47:07 <gribble>	There are currently 2677.5631 bitcoins offered at or under 135.0 USD, worth 349397.807097 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
Apr 03 18:47:28 <kakobrekla>	lol "ppcoin pool down" .... "restarted bitcoind and its back up"
Apr 03 18:47:36 <kakobrekla>	ppcoin has a bitcoind.
Apr 03 18:47:42 <kakobrekla>	win
Apr 03 18:47:57 <taub>	sware on my mum i had a buy at 115
Apr 03 18:48:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00428 = 0.0214 BTC [-]
Apr 03 18:48:06 <taub>	too much multitasking i guess
Apr 03 18:48:30 <taub>	would've been a nice $11 move
Apr 03 18:48:32 <dub>	ppcoin has ppcoind
Apr 03 18:48:40 <taub>	whut
Apr 03 18:48:41 <dub>	bytecoin has bitcoind
Apr 03 18:48:53 <kakobrekla>	not according to doublec https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108531.msg1734915#msg1734915
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Apr 03 18:52:28 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 03 18:52:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.00000, Best ask: 122.59999, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 122.59999, 24 hour volume: 148366.46869089, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.52438
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Apr 03 18:54:45 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 18:54:46 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 119.647143 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.239771534936 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 03 18:55:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [-]
Apr 03 18:55:29 <Namworld>	seriously... the fuck gox...
Apr 03 18:56:19 <bgupta>	again withtthe gox?
Apr 03 18:58:05 <dub>	we need #bitcoin-zen
Apr 03 18:58:10 <dub>	in fact
Apr 03 18:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.45 = 1.8 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:00:57 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 03 19:00:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.00000, Best ask: 124.40000, Bid-ask spread: 2.40000, Last trade: 124.40000, 24 hour volume: 148366.46869089, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.52438
Apr 03 19:02:23 <kakobrekla>	Namworld http://static.rtbtc.net:8080/img/bitvps_20120509.png
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Apr 03 19:03:03 <kakobrekla>	that has been there since like 5$
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Apr 03 19:05:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 50 @ 0.0023 = 0.115 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:05:27 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 03 19:05:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 123.00000, Best ask: 124.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 123.00000, 24 hour volume: 148366.46869089, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.52438
Apr 03 19:05:32 <TomServo>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 19:05:33 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 03 19:05:45 <kakobrekla>	01:04.48 ( coinmaster ) idioterna: about 7 minutes (464 seconds or 0:07:44)
Apr 03 19:05:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 500 @ 0.0022 = 1.1 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:07:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 90 @ 0.0022 = 0.198 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:14:24 <bgupta>	Are there any actual btc callable calls being traded anywhere?
Apr 03 19:16:39 <dub>	#bitcoin-zen now live
Apr 03 19:17:08 <dub>	free for a limited time
Apr 03 19:17:32 <bgupta>	dub: ??
Apr 03 19:18:39 <dub>	its an irc channel to help you deal with the stresses of bitcoin life
Apr 03 19:20:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0032 = 4.8 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:20:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0031721 = 6.3442 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00317021 = 3.1702 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 23114 @ 0.00317002 = 73.2718 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:20:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00317001 = 3.17 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:20:29 <kakobrekla>	http://www.quickmeme.com/Smug-Bitcoiner/?upcoming
Apr 03 19:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00316102 = 3.161 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:21:25 <dub>	lol who are they?
Apr 03 19:23:25 <mod6>	haha omg
Apr 03 19:23:48 <deadweasel>	they are you, me, kakobrekla, and bgupta
Apr 03 19:24:16 <dub>	no that is the elite class of #bitoin-zen early adopters
Apr 03 19:24:31 <dub>	who are the guys in the meme?
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Apr 03 19:26:55 <kakobrekla>	you dont know?
Apr 03 19:27:04 <deadweasel>	dunno those fat old farts..
Apr 03 19:27:04 <kakobrekla>	its mtgox something and tux on the right
Apr 03 19:27:09 <kakobrekla>	magical tux
Apr 03 19:27:19 <kakobrekla>	the mtgox ceo / coder
Apr 03 19:27:59 <dub>	 / asshat
Apr 03 19:28:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 30000 @ 0.0031 = 93 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 19:29:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 219 @ 0.0034 = 0.7446 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 19:29:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 23 @ 0.00336 = 0.0773 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:29:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 132 @ 0.00335 = 0.4422 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:29:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00335 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:29:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.00332 = 0.0133 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:29:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 55 @ 0.0033 = 0.1815 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:30:41 <dub>	<jgarzik> I think we're looking at the death of the zero-fee transaction
Apr 03 19:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.35 = 2.45 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.3499 = 1.7495 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3499 = 1.0497 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 19:37:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 19:37:43 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 217.809458 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.436487715116 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 03 19:37:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 19:37:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.00000, Best ask: 130.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 130.00000, 24 hour volume: 151035.22514859, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.59139
Apr 03 19:38:00 <ThickAsThieves>	so we still dont really know what the price is
Apr 03 19:38:12 <kakobrekla>	lol how much incompetence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYPaN_41tv0
Apr 03 19:39:25 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 19:39:27 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 127.95
Apr 03 19:39:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 19:39:54 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 7.516581 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0150631441642 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).
Apr 03 19:39:58 <ThickAsThieves>	yeeuh
Apr 03 19:40:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 03 19:40:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.00000, Best ask: 131.02000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 131.00000, 24 hour volume: 150551.93804706, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.72708
Apr 03 19:40:15 <bgupta>	lol..
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Apr 03 19:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:43:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 19:46:03 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 19:46:04 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 206.843324 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.414511705363 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
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Apr 03 19:49:02 <kakobrekla>	moar propaganda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP6pBS6uptE
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Apr 03 19:52:44 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 19:52:45 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 198.673365 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.398139199002 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 03 19:54:25 <Namworld>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 19:54:25 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 232.225962 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.465378227717 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 03 19:54:39 <Namworld>	lag on the rise... and almost no trading...
Apr 03 19:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.45 = 1.35 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.445 = 2.225 BTC [-]
Apr 03 19:59:41 <ThickAsThieves>	gox getting rid of US customers to CoinLab wasnt enough, they wanna get rid of ALL of em
Apr 03 20:00:15 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 03 20:00:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.13178, Best ask: 135.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.86822, Last trade: 135.00000, 24 hour volume: 150551.93804706, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.72708
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Apr 03 20:12:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00069999 = 3.01 BTC [+]
Apr 03 20:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12592 @ 0.0007 = 8.8144 BTC [+]
Apr 03 20:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1512 @ 0.00070496 = 1.0659 BTC [+]
Apr 03 20:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3499 = 0.6998 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 20:16:55 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 03 20:16:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.12836, Best ask: 133.44901, Bid-ask spread: 0.32065, Last trade: 133.44901, 24 hour volume: 152834.31866993, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.98661
Apr 03 20:16:59 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 20:17:01 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 29.865838 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0598508049574 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
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Apr 03 20:54:04 <cole_albon>	;;ticker
Apr 03 20:54:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.02302, Best ask: 126.55155, Bid-ask spread: 0.52853, Last trade: 127.45712, 24 hour volume: 154567.82433501, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 128.13920
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Apr 03 21:27:50 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 03 21:27:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.87540, Best ask: 129.89900, Bid-ask spread: 1.02360, Last trade: 129.89900, 24 hour volume: 156959.74698285, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 128.10677
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Apr 03 21:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C122T] 5 @ 0.25815224 = 1.2908 BTC [+]
Apr 03 21:32:42 <ThickAsThieves>	awfully quiet in here
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Apr 03 21:37:14 <deadweasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=162348.msg1736616#msg1736616 lol, entertainment
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Apr 03 21:44:01 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.msg1736336#msg1736336   ZIGGAP ZOMBIE
Apr 03 21:45:59 <deadweasel>	lol
Apr 03 21:50:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 17 @ 0.00428 = 0.0728 BTC [-]
Apr 03 21:50:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 87 @ 0.00427 = 0.3715 BTC [-]
Apr 03 21:53:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 166 @ 0.00426 = 0.7072 BTC [-]
Apr 03 21:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00069971 = 4.2682 BTC [-]
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Apr 03 22:18:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00310005 = 0.775 BTC [+]
Apr 03 22:18:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4980 @ 0.00310004 = 15.4382 BTC [-]
Apr 03 22:18:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 299770 @ 0.0031 = 929.287 BTC [-]
Apr 03 22:21:11 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 03 22:21:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.20000, Best ask: 126.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 126.20000, 24 hour volume: 160715.32214913, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 128.41635
Apr 03 22:21:24 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 03 22:21:25 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 03 22:21:34 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 03 22:21:35 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.108017 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000216464858581 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 03 22:22:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33000001 BTC [-]
Apr 03 22:22:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.33 = 6.27 BTC [-]
Apr 03 22:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
Apr 03 22:31:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.755 BTC [+]
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Apr 03 22:32:20 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 03 22:32:22 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 128.39
Apr 03 22:33:51 <KRS1337>	when is the next party lol
Apr 03 22:34:32 <ThickAsThieves>	about 3 hours away
Apr 03 22:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5130 @ 0.0007 = 3.591 BTC [+]
Apr 03 22:59:08 <topace>	anyone else have transactions taking forever to get relayed?
Apr 03 22:59:17 <topace>	i have a bunch sitting at 0 confirmations on havelock trying to send out
Apr 03 22:59:24 <dub>	$unconfirmed
Apr 03 22:59:27 <mpexbot>	dub: 1504 unconfirmed transactions. Oldest dated: 2013-04-02 00:59:58
Apr 03 23:00:10 <topace>	hmm
Apr 03 23:00:13 <topace>	is that normal?
Apr 03 23:02:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000602 = 0.0602 BTC [+]
Apr 03 23:02:42 <topace>	all mine have fees associated with them
Apr 03 23:03:08 <dub>	yeah its normal, bitcoin doesn't work very well
Apr 03 23:03:12 <topace>	heh
Apr 03 23:03:17 <dub>	wait a few days
Apr 03 23:03:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 103 @ 0.000601 = 0.0619 BTC [-]
Apr 03 23:04:28 <taub>	maybe big crash not quite yet?
Apr 03 23:04:35 <dub>	its more dependant on the number, size and age of inputs than the fee
Apr 03 23:04:45 <taub>	some consolidation and getting ready for 150...
Apr 03 23:07:26 <taub>	https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6911896/bitcoins.png buy areas @ boxes
Apr 03 23:07:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 4 @ 0.0125 = 0.05 BTC [+]
Apr 03 23:07:40 <taub>	oh wait wrong pictures
Apr 03 23:07:46 <taub>	https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6911896/bitcon.png
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Apr 03 23:17:15 <KRS1337>	that looks like we are beginning a long lasting downtrend?
Apr 03 23:18:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069999 = 3.5 BTC [-]
Apr 03 23:18:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.0007 = 3.78 BTC [+]
Apr 03 23:18:13 <bgupta>	well, it all depends on where you draw the lines. ;)
Apr 03 23:18:35 <KRS1337>	lol yeah thats true..lemme grab my crayon and wish
Apr 03 23:18:43 <KRS1337>	looks like its going to go down to me
Apr 03 23:18:48 <KRS1337>	but im no expert =/
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Apr 03 23:19:44 <bgupta>	technical trading sorta has a self fullfilling sense to it.. so if enough people follow it, it becomes true.. don't know if folks are doing technical trading in btc.
Apr 03 23:20:36 <copumpkin>	yup
Apr 03 23:21:19 <copumpkin>	that's assuming it isn't hugely subjective in the first place and will generate reasonably consistent results across people
Apr 03 23:21:22 <copumpkin>	which is a big assumption
Apr 03 23:23:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3060 @ 0.0007 = 2.142 BTC [+]
Apr 03 23:23:40 <taub>	well
Apr 03 23:23:55 <taub>	there are trends, and odds are that trens will contiune rather than turn around
Apr 03 23:24:03 <taub>	that's pretty much all there is to it
Apr 03 23:24:14 <pigeons>	why are the odds that the trend will continue?
Apr 03 23:24:25 <taub>	i dont know, force, momentum
Apr 03 23:24:38 <copumpkin>	...
Apr 03 23:24:55 <pigeons>	not what causes the odds to say that way, what prooves the odds are that way
Apr 03 23:25:15 <copumpkin>	what is a trend, in the first place?
Apr 03 23:25:19 <taub>	trader consensus :)
Apr 03 23:25:36 <copumpkin>	that's clearly not what will continue
Apr 03 23:25:41 <copumpkin>	if there were a complete consensus, there would be no trade
Apr 03 23:26:00 <taub>	no i mean every trader will assure you that it's always safer to trade in the direction of the trend
Apr 03 23:26:10 <taub>	what makes a trend, that's difficult to say
Apr 03 23:26:19 <pigeons>	"every trader will assure you" does not make it so
Apr 03 23:26:34 <taub>	but i just know that Tim Morge, one of the biggest forex traders ever said taht there are 10% better odds when you trade with the trend
Apr 03 23:26:41 <taub>	he didn't cite a source
Apr 03 23:26:43 <copumpkin>	every 14-year-old girl will tell you that justin bieber is the best singer in history
Apr 03 23:26:58 <taub>	but that was more a side mention in a talk he gave
Apr 03 23:27:09 <taub>	oaky, every good trader
Apr 03 23:27:13 <pigeons>	well if it was powerpoint, its probably true
Apr 03 23:27:17 <copumpkin>	taub: what about all the traders who think it's bullshit?
Apr 03 23:27:22 <copumpkin>	are they just bad traders?
Apr 03 23:27:23 <taub>	they prolly lose money
Apr 03 23:27:26 <copumpkin>	...
Apr 03 23:27:37 <bgupta>	WEll. there's always the axiom, don't fight the whales too.
Apr 03 23:27:38 <copumpkin>	selection bias at work right here folks
Apr 03 23:27:39 <taub>	hey, i'm not saying it's going anywhere right now, i'm talking about trading in general
Apr 03 23:27:45 <bgupta>	and they make and break trends
Apr 03 23:27:48 <taub>	the big uptrend hasn't been broken yet in btcusd
Apr 03 23:27:56 <taub>	all we have is congestion
Apr 03 23:28:25 <bgupta>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg60zigHourlyztgSza1gSMAzm1g1zm2g25zv
Apr 03 23:28:34 <copumpkin>	oh, tim morge has something to sell me
Apr 03 23:28:58 <Diablo-D3>	[11:26:43] <copumpkin> every 14-year-old girl will tell you that justin bieber is the best singer in history
Apr 03 23:29:16 <bgupta>	what happened around the 18/19 March? was that Cyprus?
Apr 03 23:29:20 <taub>	i'm just stating facts here, but you seem a bit ignorant concerning trading
Apr 03 23:29:20 <Diablo-D3>	yes, because they think they'll get kicked out of their house if they admit freddie mercury is their one true lord and savior
Apr 03 23:29:31 <copumpkin>	lol
Apr 03 23:29:46 <pigeons>	haha taub you should know who you're talking too
Apr 03 23:29:50 <pigeons>	*to
Apr 03 23:30:39 <pigeons>	topace: i dont think your case is normal, the transaction im waiting for gave me a txid, but well-connected nodes such as blockchain.info dont see that transaction at all, it isnt just a case of it not being included in a block
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Apr 03 23:31:16 <pigeons>	i had one take 10 hours to get in a block today, but all my nodes saw the tx and so did blockchain.info
Apr 03 23:31:28 <pigeons>	so i think this is different
Apr 03 23:31:31 <bgupta>	Cyprus was the 16th… within a day or two we the gradual rally sharpened
Apr 03 23:32:43 <taub>	https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6911896/swings.gif https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6911896/swings2.gif trends/swing 101
Apr 03 23:33:12 <copumpkin>	taub: do you think you could tell if I handed you a day of geometric brownian motion, that something weird was up?
Apr 03 23:33:22 <taub>	maybe ;D
Apr 03 23:33:23 <cole_albon>	tradehill came back online with lawyers and everything at the same time as cyprus.  maybe this is just plain old institutional money moving in
Apr 03 23:34:16 <copumpkin>	taub: how long would it take to notice that the resistance/support levels, heads and shoulders, bollinger bands, etc. you're marking on the chart I provide are completely meaningless?
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Apr 03 23:34:26 <copumpkin>	realistically
Apr 03 23:34:45 <copumpkin>	do you think Morge could?
Apr 03 23:34:52 <taub>	I don't know
Apr 03 23:35:06 <taub>	has anyone ever done the pepsi challenge with TA?
Apr 03 23:35:20 <copumpkin>	how would you phrase the challenge?
Apr 03 23:35:59 <[\\\]>	do you really think all the people in cyprus were able to get gox accounts
Apr 03 23:36:00 <taub>	trade this instrument profitably, but you doint know if it's maybe just a brownian motion
Apr 03 23:36:01 <[\\\]>	fund them
Apr 03 23:36:03 <[\\\]>	and buy coins
Apr 03 23:36:05 <[\\\]>	all in 2 days?
Apr 03 23:36:13 <[\\\]>	you've got to be joking
Apr 03 23:36:24 <copumpkin>	"I can't get my money! let me send it overseas"
Apr 03 23:36:36 <[\\\]>	you don't go from not having access to your money
Apr 03 23:36:39 <[\\\]>	to getting it in gox
Apr 03 23:36:43 <[\\\]>	derp
Apr 03 23:36:49 <pigeons>	i need a safe place to put my money, safer than a bank, how bout 4chan
Apr 03 23:36:56 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 03 23:36:57 <taub>	the most important aspect trading off charts is probably experience
Apr 03 23:37:12 <[\\\]>	pigeons: I prefer to bury it jars under piles of dogshit
Apr 03 23:37:15 <copumpkin>	taub: so you think an experienced trader would "feel" that something is off?
Apr 03 23:37:17 <[\\\]>	no one will think to look under the shit
Apr 03 23:37:34 <taub>	btw tim morge has ton of free blog articles on medianline.com as well as free archived webinars on his other site marketgeometry.com
Apr 03 23:37:46 <taub>	I don't know copumpkin why do you keep asking
Apr 03 23:37:46 <cole_albon>	I think Russians with money in Cyprus could get gox accounts.  I've seen maps where Russia has a lot of bitcoin users 2nd place 1st even?
Apr 03 23:38:06 <copumpkin>	taub: you say I seem ignorant about trading. I ask how deeply you've thought about it, is all
Apr 03 23:38:11 <[\\\]>	copumpkin's probably the wrong person to fight regarding market strategies
Apr 03 23:39:10 <copumpkin>	I'm not saying my questions have good answers necessarily supporting my point in them
Apr 03 23:39:25 <copumpkin>	I just want to make sure TA proponents have thought through those questions
Apr 03 23:39:31 <copumpkin>	and many others
Apr 03 23:39:37 <taub>	one is a model
Apr 03 23:39:44 <taub>	the other one is real markets
Apr 03 23:39:56 <taub>	i think it's a difference, even though a machien cant tell
Apr 03 23:39:57 <taub>	yet
Apr 03 23:40:27 <copumpkin>	well, I'm just asking for a null hypothesis. Standard science says "don't try to prove something, try to disprove the null hypothesis"
Apr 03 23:40:44 <[\\\]>	fail to reject!
Apr 03 23:40:46 <cole_albon>	you guys need to knock it off
Apr 03 23:40:46 <taub>	your big words dont intimidate me
Apr 03 23:40:59 <[\\\]>	those weren't big words :-/
Apr 03 23:40:59 <copumpkin>	taub: it's not big words, it's basic scientific process...
Apr 03 23:41:27 <copumpkin>	taub: it's basically saying that if you're trying to say your drug is effective, try to prove that it isn't
Apr 03 23:41:59 <copumpkin>	first of all it keeps you honest
Apr 03 23:42:08 <copumpkin>	(that's the idea, anyway; real science is fucked :P)
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Apr 03 23:54:05 <ChaangNoi>	copumpkin!
Apr 03 23:54:12 <copumpkin>	omg a goat
Apr 03 23:54:35 <ChaangNoi>	you are right to be shocked, goats love to eat pinappelz!
Apr 03 23:54:44 <copumpkin>	nooooo
Apr 03 23:54:57 <copumpkin>	I'm a cannibal pineapple anyway
Apr 03 23:55:02 <copumpkin>	I love eating pineapples too
Apr 03 23:55:04 <ChaangNoi>	pigeons i gave some of my btc to 4chan :)
Apr 03 23:55:14 <copumpkin>	ChaangNoi: is that tax-deductible?
Apr 03 23:55:18 <ChaangNoi>	im not so found of goat, its okay
Apr 03 23:55:44 <ChaangNoi>	copumkin dont know, i was working with moot to get him to accept 4chan. i think i was the first to do it.
Apr 03 23:56:01 <ChaangNoi>	but really btc and taxes? loool
Apr 03 23:56:05 <copumpkin>	:)
Apr 03 23:56:12 <copumpkin>	expat taxes
Apr 03 23:56:24 <ChaangNoi>	yeah, i dont even know how to try to pay taxes on that
Apr 03 23:56:37 <pigeons>	only whitelisted coins that have paid the tax will be accepted at coinlab
Apr 03 23:56:52 <ChaangNoi>	soo... i have this computer, and i "made" "money" then i spent it and never converted it to usd/baht   how much i owe?   lulz
Apr 03 23:57:08 <ChaangNoi>	pigeons you is kidding right? :)
Apr 03 23:57:22 <pigeons>	predicting
Apr 03 23:57:26 <ChaangNoi>	hmmm
Apr 03 23:57:34 <ChaangNoi>	that is going to be very hard to do
Apr 03 23:57:38 <ChaangNoi>	whitelisting btcs?
Apr 03 23:57:45 <pigeons>	how is that hard?
Apr 03 23:58:22 <ChaangNoi>	i dont even know how that could be done, anyway as the law goes right now all coinlab has to do is report and send a doc to the account holder
Apr 03 23:58:26 <ChaangNoi>	it is their job to pay
Apr 03 23:58:37 <ChaangNoi>	irs can then go after the account holders
Apr 03 23:58:51 <pigeons>	when does coinlab start?
Apr 03 23:58:57 <ChaangNoi>	irs trying to whitelist coins lol, that will take new lawz
Apr 03 23:59:06 <ChaangNoi>	pigeons i thought like last month, i dont know really
Apr 03 23:59:11 <pigeons>	yeah cause new laws are so hard to make
Apr 03 23:59:19 <ChaangNoi>	they take time
Apr 03 23:59:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00070194 = 2.2813 BTC [+]
Apr 03 23:59:31 <pigeons>	well i executive order it
Apr 03 23:59:33 <ChaangNoi>	but really, if the us govt did make that law i would be so bullish on btc
Apr 03 23:59:58 <ChaangNoi>	it would be like them admiting this is the future and the usd and banking system is dead
Apr 04 00:00:18 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 147
Apr 04 00:00:18 <gribble>	There are currently 14829.542 bitcoins offered at or under 147.0 USD, worth 2076259.23618 USD in total. | Data vintage: 74.7741 seconds
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Apr 04 00:01:00 <ChaangNoi>	hmm, btc ath is 147... murder code for police is 147... btc murdered usd? :)
Apr 04 00:01:02 <[\\\]>	it takes little time to make a law
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Apr 04 00:01:08 <[\\\]>	congress could pass it in a day if they wanted to
Apr 04 00:01:19 <[\\\]>	seriously, open and shut within an hour
Apr 04 00:01:26 <ChaangNoi>	if they went out of their way to make a law that fast :)
Apr 04 00:02:15 <ChaangNoi>	anyway, bt is global, much of it will be outside of the usa anyway, "black market" will be 90% anyway
Apr 04 00:02:21 <ChaangNoi>	let the hedge funds pay their taxez
Apr 04 00:03:32 <pigeons>	british telecom is mostly just in england
Apr 04 00:03:39 <[\\\]>	I think you're naive as to how much control the US has over banking internationally
Apr 04 00:04:02 <ChaangNoi>	lol, if you want to trade btc for fiat sure, but lol, why?
Apr 04 00:04:28 <pigeons>	well that's what coinlab does (is going to do)
Apr 04 00:04:29 <ChaangNoi>	if you are a shop that needs to by real world goods fine
Apr 04 00:04:29 <[\\\]>	part of the reason that currencies developed is because not everyone's looking to buy a cow or a sack of potatos
Apr 04 00:05:11 <[\\\]>	and not everyone considers bitcoin to be a currency, instead treating it as a transmission medium and nothing more.
Apr 04 00:05:14 <ChaangNoi>	some will need to sell btc for fiat, but well if you do, then well pay taxes, as that fiat is part of that govt
Apr 04 00:05:17 <[\\\]>	and all of those interfaces are with USD
Apr 04 00:05:23 <ChaangNoi>	however there is no need for everyone to trade
Apr 04 00:05:32 <[\\\]>	you think the people paying taxes are going to absorb that?
Apr 04 00:05:36 <[\\\]>	no, they'll pass the costs on
Apr 04 00:05:47 <[\\\]>	thats how business works
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Apr 04 00:06:14 <ChaangNoi>	then dont buy from someone paying taxes if you dont want to, with btc you can opt in if you want, but it is not forced
Apr 04 00:08:22 <cole_albon>	seen mircea_popescu
Apr 04 00:10:07 <ChaangNoi>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 00:10:07 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.245323 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000491624545227 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 04 00:12:44 <ChaangNoi>	bbl good trading all
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Apr 04 00:26:15 <Riekal>	o/
Apr 04 00:26:22 <Riekal>	anyone here mine ltc?
Apr 04 00:26:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10145 @ 0.00070345 = 7.1365 BTC [+]
Apr 04 00:27:04 <pigeons>	#litecoin
Apr 04 00:28:06 <Riekal>	Thank you, good sir
Apr 04 00:28:28 <Riekal>	My question might even fit in this channel thoughh.
Apr 04 00:28:47 <Riekal>	I joined a pool for ltc, and my miner is showing 10.3 mh/s
Apr 04 00:28:58 <Riekal>	but, the pool was just showing 3 kh/s
Apr 04 00:29:02 <Riekal>	is tha tnormal?
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Apr 04 00:29:21 <Riekal>	I ran the test at bitminter.com/test
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Apr 04 00:29:35 <Riekal>	and it even said my gpu was at 10.2 mh/s
Apr 04 00:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	well... let's drop the bomb in #mtgox
Apr 04 00:30:03 <Riekal>	O_o
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Apr 04 00:32:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 00:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Apr 04 00:34:25 <[\\\]>	note to self, always go mudding with the windows open: http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/buckwild-production-companies-paying-shain-gandee-funeral-140430505.html
Apr 04 00:34:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.000658 = 0.0026 BTC [+]
Apr 04 00:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] i see your note and raise you http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303287/Indian-engineers-invent-anti-rape-underwear-gives-attackers-electric-shocks-automatically-texts-police-help.html
Apr 04 00:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	also 4000 per episode ?! bwagagagaga who the fuck does this ?
Apr 04 00:36:27 <mircea_popescu>	random girl in pornscene makes that
Apr 04 00:36:28 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: a bunch of hillbillies who have no future
Apr 04 00:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck thinks that's a star.
Apr 04 00:36:42 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu: I saw your shocker and raise you a man with no penis: http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/eric-ducharme--the-real-life-mermaid-200251696.html
Apr 04 00:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	o ya ?
Apr 04 00:38:02 <mircea_popescu>	i see your man with no penis and i give you a matress with a safe : http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/shortcuts/2013/mar/29/mattress-safe-bank-with-confidence
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Apr 04 00:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile on twitter :
Apr 04 00:42:45 <mircea_popescu>	Adam Posen @AdamPosen (President, Peterson Institute for International Economics; member Bank of England MPC 2009-12; advises central banks & governments; proclaiming on policy daily) : #gold is the investment for silly people. #bitcoin is gold for people who don't save. Please make it go away. pic.twitter.com/UdbbxCiNXD
Apr 04 00:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	Mircea Popescu ‏@Mircea_Popescu 54s @AdamPosen What are you, like some sort of retard with a high self esteem ?
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Apr 04 00:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	and let's hammer [\\\] into the ground with this coup de grace killing blow final strike : http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/03/man-who-gave-birth-to-three-babies-unsuccessfully-begs-for-a-divorce-in-this-odd-legal-conundrum/
Apr 04 00:50:30 <mod6>	*boggle*
Apr 04 00:52:15 <mircea_popescu>	hai mod6
Apr 04 00:52:46 <mod6>	hi :]
Apr 04 00:53:03 <mod6>	people in arizona are getting more strange i see
Apr 04 00:53:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7003 = 1.4006 BTC [-]
Apr 04 00:53:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7002 BTC [-]
Apr 04 00:53:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7001 = 3.5005 BTC [-]
Apr 04 00:53:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 24 @ 0.7 = 16.8 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 00:55:18 <mircea_popescu>	it's a sliding scale.
Apr 04 00:55:33 <mod6>	ya, arizona still pretty much kicks ass tho
Apr 04 00:56:08 <mod6>	i guess it depends
Apr 04 00:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	i prefer texas as far as desert states go.
Apr 04 00:57:35 <mod6>	i never spent too much time there. drove across it once though. fast.
Apr 04 00:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	1. pretty much all bartenders are fuckable chicks ; 2. they buy me drinks like it's their bar and i'm their bro.
Apr 04 00:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	(ymmv)
Apr 04 00:58:31 <mod6>	haha nice
Apr 04 00:59:17 *	mod6 dreams of the hot girls @ UofA
Apr 04 00:59:52 <mircea_popescu>	contrary to what people of walmart may lead you to believe,
Apr 04 00:59:55 <mircea_popescu>	there are some.
Apr 04 01:00:01 <mod6>	bingo
Apr 04 01:00:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/03/offshore-secrets-offshore-tax-haven
Apr 04 01:00:27 <mod6>	that website has some serious feature-creatures
Apr 04 01:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	bwahahaha
Apr 04 01:01:09 <mod6>	when I worked nights at walmart in tucson you see it all i tell you
Apr 04 01:01:13 <mod6>	just... wow.
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Apr 04 01:03:32 <mod6>	dang $32tn
Apr 04 01:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	basically this is all moving into bitcoin.
Apr 04 01:06:34 <mod6>	seems like it
Apr 04 01:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	The whistleblowing group WikiLeaks caused a storm of controversy in 2010 when it was able to download almost two gigabytes of leaked US military and diplomatic files.
Apr 04 01:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	The new BVI data, by contrast, contains more than 200 gigabytes
Apr 04 01:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	you can sorta smell the butthurt.
Apr 04 01:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	the problem with this is that being a govt official IS immoral,
Apr 04 01:06:59 <mircea_popescu>	whereas being rich is not.
Apr 04 01:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	of course msm would like to make it so it's the other way around.
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Apr 04 01:09:53 <mod6>	[\\\]: "I'm just glad your mother didn't live to see you become a mermaid." "MERMAN... MERMAN!!"
Apr 04 01:11:05 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: it used to be that people didn't go into government service (unless .mil) until they were pretty successful in the private sector.  Not any longer, its like people get out of school and they want to go right into government.  What gives?
Apr 04 01:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	they have no skills, no ability and won't do any work.
Apr 04 01:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	govt is the only thing that'd hire them
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Apr 04 01:12:52 <mod6>	yeah, certainly low ability to be a bread-winner or entrepreneur -- so just go into gov and get a cushy handout
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Apr 04 01:13:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1219 @ 0.00070345 = 0.8575 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:13:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6781 @ 0.00070496 = 4.7803 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:13:48 <mod6>	back in the day a guy would have a career for his life and then when asked or when he "felt the call of duty" would go into politics.  More likely because at that level they can take even bigger amts of cash from lobbiests.
Apr 04 01:14:05 <mod6>	*lobbyists
Apr 04 01:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 04 01:14:23 <mod6>	*shrug*
Apr 04 01:16:43 <mod6>	People over here are pretty convinced that if the government went away the sky would fall.
Apr 04 01:17:21 <mod6>	It's probably the furthest thing from the truth.
Apr 04 01:18:23 <mod6>	What self-respecting dude would ever let some spinless twit make the rules for him?
Apr 04 01:19:18 <mod6>	I better get off this soapbox .. lol
Apr 04 01:19:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00069971 = 6.3674 BTC [-]
Apr 04 01:20:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 558 @ 0.00069484 = 0.3877 BTC [-]
Apr 04 01:21:11 <mod6>	I think people just want to be told what to do.
Apr 04 01:21:18 <mod6>	It's a short cut to thinking.
Apr 04 01:21:45 <mod6>	just give me a hammer and a sicle and tell me where to work and how to spend my money at the general store.
Apr 04 01:21:49 <bgupta>	and bitcoincharts is down again
Apr 04 01:22:18 <mod6>	*sickle
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Apr 04 01:22:42 <mod6>	those sites go up and down more than a las vegas hooker
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Apr 04 01:25:27 <mod6>	So I read this book Anna Karenina a few years back and I recently saw the movie with Jude Law and whomever.. the new one.
Apr 04 01:25:40 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 04 01:25:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.00000, Best ask: 129.84754, Bid-ask spread: 0.84754, Last trade: 129.84754, 24 hour volume: 156282.00223296, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 128.88957
Apr 04 01:25:51 <mod6>	Which kinda sucked actually because it was filmed like a play...
Apr 04 01:26:50 <mod6>	but it followed the book pretty close. Anyway, its interesting how the classes were so seperated.  Like the character Konstantin Levin has all of these pesants that he litereally owns, as slaves.
Apr 04 01:27:26 <mod6>	And he feels bad about this in some fashion, so he takes it upon himself to join them in their daily labor in the fields, etc.  And they actually resent him for it.
Apr 04 01:28:52 <mod6>	They want him to take his proper place as lord, and the peasants want to serve him in that way.
Apr 04 01:29:02 <mod6>	Not sure why i bring that up.
Apr 04 01:29:09 <mod6>	I'm pretty tired i guess :/
Apr 04 01:29:38 <mod6>	I like reading old books.
Apr 04 01:30:21 <mod6>	Always fascinating to compare and contrast the past with the present.
Apr 04 01:32:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19999 BTC [-]
Apr 04 01:32:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:33:21 <mod6>	heh, just me?
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Apr 04 01:35:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3711 BTC [-]
Apr 04 01:35:53 <mod6>	(21:34) < [\\\]> note to self, always go mudding with the windows open << yea! i heard darwin got these ding-dongs
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Apr 04 01:36:41 <mod6>	m00
Apr 04 01:36:51 <[\\\]>	I think copumpkin reserved that
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Apr 04 01:39:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1028 = 0.4112 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:40:42 <mod6>	here's some latenight comedy: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/03/obama-will-give-up-portion-of-his-salary/?hpt=hp_t5
Apr 04 01:45:21 <mircea_popescu>	<mod6> They want him to take his proper place as lord, and the peasants want to serve him in that way. << you know, people do.
Apr 04 01:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	this entire equality bs is an expensive fiction really.
Apr 04 01:45:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.49 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:45:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7541 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:45:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7544 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:45:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7545 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:46:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7546 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:46:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7547 = 2.2641 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:46:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.7548 = 15.096 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:46:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7549 = 2.2647 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:46:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.755 BTC [+]
Apr 04 01:46:39 <mod6>	Yeah over the last 25 years, at least over here, much of the social dogma is about how everyone is equal and must be treated as such.
Apr 04 01:49:13 <mod6>	It's hard to have competiton if everyone is supposed to be the same; however it also seems to manifest entitlement issues for sure.  Nothing is equal, and never has been, but they say it is.
Apr 04 01:49:14 <mod6>	Its a gigantic mind-job.
Apr 04 01:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	moreover...
Apr 04 01:51:05 <mircea_popescu>	people.literally.wish.to.serve.
Apr 04 01:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	all this angst and loneliness and rest of the bs they keep making sitcoms about...
Apr 04 01:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	it's really the story of slaves who can't find masters because they don't know they need them.
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Apr 04 02:03:33 <mod6>	Yeah, I think that people just want to do their duty and do it well (whatever that means) and get the approval or reward they deserve.
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Apr 04 02:05:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 167 @ 0.00177 = 0.2956 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 02:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6314 @ 0.00069956 = 4.417 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 02:15:43 <mod6>	well, i better call sleep(), gn -assets :)
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Apr 04 02:37:29 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 147
Apr 04 02:37:31 <gribble>	There are currently 11888.865 bitcoins offered at or under 147.0 USD, worth 1685894.41434 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
Apr 04 02:37:46 <ChaangNoi>	AM going up, good news?
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Apr 04 02:47:42 <toffoo>	not really, divie was lowest ever this week
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Apr 04 02:48:06 <toffoo>	i think that's just an uptick from the selloff
Apr 04 02:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Apr 04 02:48:27 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.683004 / 0.74436 / 0.78997 (241 shares, 179.4 BTC),  7D: 0.66 / 0.76962 / 0.87968 (2896 shares, 2228.8 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.7656 / 1 (8136 shares, 6228.9 BTC)
Apr 04 02:48:33 <bgupta>	well it's just back up to where it almost was yesterday.. there was a minor selloff earlier
Apr 04 02:48:45 <mircea_popescu>	sorta treading water.
Apr 04 02:49:26 <bgupta>	they paid for something ike 100 wafers from this weeks div
Apr 04 02:49:30 <bgupta>	that's why it low
Apr 04 02:49:38 <toffoo>	what's the format of those quotes?  low / something? / high  ?
Apr 04 02:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166794
Apr 04 02:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	lmao that shows promise
Apr 04 02:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox actually thinks they're doing a good job ?!
Apr 04 02:50:49 <mircea_popescu>	this is like one of those when serial killer goes on to testify and tells the judge all those people were conspiring to kill him so he was perfectly justified
Apr 04 02:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo low/vwap/high
Apr 04 02:51:38 <toffoo>	thnx
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Apr 04 02:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	"In a bid to avoid revealing the details of a secret ruling on domestic surveillance, the White House has warned a federal judge that making the decision public could do “exceptionally grave and serious damage to the national security” of the country."
Apr 04 02:55:21 <mircea_popescu>	le lol.
Apr 04 02:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	secret ruling. ruling is precedent and precedent is law. ignorance of the law is no defense.
Apr 04 02:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	this seems legit.
Apr 04 02:58:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00310001 = 3.1 BTC [+]
Apr 04 02:58:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 168 @ 0.0031 = 0.5208 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 02:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Apr 04 02:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2731 = 0.8193 BTC [-]
Apr 04 02:59:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.273 = 5.46 BTC [-]
Apr 04 02:59:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.25 = 2 BTC [-]
Apr 04 02:59:13 <jurov>	"I understand that many of you have a lot at stake here, but remember that Bitcoin, despite being designed to have its value increase over time, will always be the victim of people trying to abuse the system, or even the value of Bitcoin decreasing occasionally."
Apr 04 03:00:46 <jurov>	bitcoin designed to have its value increase over time... some outrageous memepic needed here
Apr 04 03:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 04 03:02:01 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 04 03:02:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.14373, Best ask: 131.16321, Bid-ask spread: 0.01948, Last trade: 130.00000, 24 hour volume: 142825.56797466, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 128.99877
Apr 04 03:02:03 <mircea_popescu>	lmao what the fuck is that
Apr 04 03:02:40 <jurov>	from that mtgox announcement you linked
Apr 04 03:02:44 <bgupta>	if he thinks noone made money today he is an idiot
Apr 04 03:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	omfg mtgox pr ?!
Apr 04 03:02:51 <mircea_popescu>	jesus christ how can they be this stupid
Apr 04 03:03:08 <toffoo>	your -pr girl already grilled it
Apr 04 03:04:01 <toffoo>	best part is apparently mtgox's official new communications platform is their Facebook page
Apr 04 03:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	doh.
Apr 04 03:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	no, im taking the time to blow this to bits, they're too stupid to live at this point.
Apr 04 03:09:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00322848 = 5.6498 BTC [+]
Apr 04 03:13:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.701 BTC [-]
Apr 04 03:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3081 @ 0.0033333 = 10.2699 BTC [+]
Apr 04 03:14:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7001 BTC [-]
Apr 04 03:14:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7001 BTC [-]
Apr 04 03:15:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.705 BTC [+]
Apr 04 03:15:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.701 BTC [-]
Apr 04 03:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13086 @ 0.00069956 = 9.1544 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 03:24:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2532 @ 0.00069696 = 1.7647 BTC [-]
Apr 04 03:25:30 <ChaangNoi>	sdice .25 50% moew down and its my buying range
Apr 04 03:26:50 <taub>	We can fix lag, but we cannot eradicate lag.
Apr 04 03:26:52 <taub>	well
Apr 04 03:27:06 <taub>	i'm moving to bitfloor
Apr 04 03:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
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Apr 04 03:28:03 <taub>	i doubled my cash couple times more in btc24
Apr 04 03:28:08 <taub>	0.5 btc to 25
Apr 04 03:28:17 <taub>	im not gonna cash out cuz im not a scumbag tho
Apr 04 03:28:45 <taub>	but taht this is still being ignored tells a lot about the community
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Apr 04 03:31:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00070496 = 6.9791 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 04:08:06 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 04 04:08:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.00001, Best ask: 132.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.47999, Last trade: 132.48000, 24 hour volume: 136079.90017269, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 128.37137
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Apr 04 04:15:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7571 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 04:21:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.1722 = 0.861 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 04:22:27 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Apr 04 04:22:28 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.4 BTC [-]
Apr 04 04:22:36 <error4733>	!last m s.dice
Apr 04 04:22:37 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0033333 BTC [+]
Apr 04 04:22:49 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 04 04:22:50 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0031 / 0.00311302 / 0.0035 (389109 shares, 1,211.31 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.0032045 / 0.00439992 (1029316 shares, 3,298.45 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00375489 / 0.006 (1726965 shares, 6,484.57 BTC)
Apr 04 04:23:00 <error4733>	wuuuuut
Apr 04 04:23:52 <error4733>	no more exit for S.dice ! Good luck to all holders
Apr 04 04:24:41 <TradeFortress>	bid is 0.002 now
Apr 04 04:28:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/its-been-an-epic-few-days-what-happened/
Apr 04 04:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	here we go.
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Apr 04 04:42:09 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: Do you know of any better exchanges?
Apr 04 04:42:57 <sturles>	I've tried many.  MtGox is the fastest by far under normal circumstances, and the only one able to handle this volume.
Apr 04 04:43:26 <sturles>	If you know hoe to fix their problems, you should create a better exchange.
Apr 04 04:44:17 <taub>	was mtgox really a trading card exchange? i thought it was a rumor
Apr 04 04:45:33 <sturles>	A 100 Gbps DDoS isn't easy to handle for anyone.  Reminds me of the Coudflare attack where the attackers went for their upstream providers and kicked out a few national IXes.  I think that one was 40 Gbps.
Apr 04 04:46:25 <sturles>	taub: The first version by Jeb was based on a card trading exchange he wrote, yes.
Apr 04 04:46:37 <sturles>	It has been completely rewritten since then.
Apr 04 04:47:08 <taub>	(M)agic(t)he(G)athering?
Apr 04 04:47:09 <mircea_popescu>	sturles it was rewritten, yes
Apr 04 04:47:15 <mircea_popescu>	but it wasn't professionally rewritten.
Apr 04 04:47:24 <taub>	love that article btw
Apr 04 04:47:25 <mircea_popescu>	they just need to get a proper platform
Apr 04 04:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	before htey couldn't afford that, so i get it. but now the yhave the money to pay for it,
Apr 04 04:47:38 <taub>	However, there are many who will try to take advantage of the system. The past few days were a reminder of this sad truth.
Apr 04 04:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	all that's left is to do it.
Apr 04 04:47:46 <taub>	yes, love the fact that you bash him for that
Apr 04 04:47:59 <taub>	just shows again how fucking uneducated they are
Apr 04 04:48:19 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: A good trading platform isn't something you can go out and buy.
Apr 04 04:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	taub in fairness pretty much everyone involved with bitcoin has had a huge task just dropped on their lap.
Apr 04 04:48:40 <mircea_popescu>	sturles you get a license. there's corps specialising in this.
Apr 04 04:48:48 <mircea_popescu>	you pay a pretty penny and get decent service.
Apr 04 04:49:06 <taub>	something that sucks less than mtgox is easy tho
Apr 04 04:49:15 <mircea_popescu>	what, you think the romanian stock exchange runs on software developped by romania's central bank governor ?
Apr 04 04:49:15 <sturles>	Yep, they could close their API and make people pay to be allowed to connect.
Apr 04 04:49:24 <sturles>	Like stock exchanges.
Apr 04 04:49:40 <sturles>	But I don't think that would help much.
Apr 04 04:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	there's no way to avoid that.
Apr 04 04:49:44 <taub>	yea, but that isn't the problem yet i think, they aren't nearly at capacity from a hw standpoint
Apr 04 04:49:51 <taub>	they just have really bad software
Apr 04 04:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	they're already trying to copy the mpex broker model, but they're doing it stupidly/half bakedly
Apr 04 04:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	and with losers like coinlab.
Apr 04 04:50:10 <sturles>	It will help against the lag, yes, but at the same time make MtGox less attractive to use.  Less volume, less revenye.  They will have to find a balance.
Apr 04 04:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	the only way to do this is the way this is done.
Apr 04 04:50:39 <mircea_popescu>	exchange and clearance are sepparate not because peopl;e have nothing better to do with their time, for instance.
Apr 04 04:50:59 <sturles>	taub: Do you know about any better exhanges?  Any faster exchanges?  Any other exchanges able to handle their load?
Apr 04 04:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	sturles each and every national exchange. ~100 of them.
Apr 04 04:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	the swiss stock exchange. take that.
Apr 04 04:51:44 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: Those are not for public use.  You have to pay $$$$$$$ for a licence to connect.
Apr 04 04:51:47 <sturles>	Not comparable.
Apr 04 04:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	of course!
Apr 04 04:51:49 <taub>	well, i'll be moving over to bitfloor and try them
Apr 04 04:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	they made what, 10mn this month in fees ?
Apr 04 04:51:58 <sturles>	And they don't have to handle balances.
Apr 04 04:52:02 <mircea_popescu>	let them spend that to get a proper platform wtf.
Apr 04 04:52:09 <taub>	mtgox is still not beatable in liquidity of course
Apr 04 04:52:30 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: Revenue != profit.
Apr 04 04:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	nevertheless.
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Apr 04 04:52:52 <mircea_popescu>	again : this is not up to discussion. if you want to do this you'll have to do it. otherwise it's not done.
Apr 04 04:53:07 <mircea_popescu>	they'll copy the mpex model whether they want to or not, because the mpex model is not an accident
Apr 04 04:53:10 <taub>	yea agree
Apr 04 04:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	it's simply the result of me knowing finance
Apr 04 04:53:21 <taub>	there needs to be clearing houses/ brokers
Apr 04 04:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	which apparently makes me a rare bird, but that's really irrelevant.
Apr 04 04:53:29 <taub>	cant do it all in one
Apr 04 04:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	taub they may try to originally, anyway.
Apr 04 04:54:07 <sturles>	Any exchange can copy the mpex and try that model if they think it wioll work for a publick high volume exchange with high liquidity and trading volume.  I don't.
Apr 04 04:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	but soon enough they'll figure the advantages of splitting it and that'll be that.
Apr 04 04:54:11 <taub>	okay, well it is possible, betting sites do it
Apr 04 04:54:22 <taub>	betfair is just a big exchange, probably more volume than mtgox
Apr 04 04:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	sturles you don't seem to understand that everything that works works like mpex.
Apr 04 04:54:37 <sturles>	Even MtGox?
Apr 04 04:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox doesn't work.
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Apr 04 04:54:45 <sturles>	Yes, it does.
Apr 04 04:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	the swiss stock exchange does work.
Apr 04 04:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	heh. well then that's the root of our problem.
Apr 04 04:55:10 <TradeFortress>	most people aren't gonna get gpg to trade on an exchange. seriously
Apr 04 04:55:12 <taub>	steady lag of more than a minute is not working by far
Apr 04 04:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	TradeFortress gpg isn't the point there tho.
Apr 04 04:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	they're implementing the separate trade engine model (which is good)
Apr 04 04:55:34 <sturles>	How many thousands of traders does the swiss stock exchange have directly connected to their API?
Apr 04 04:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	and they will end up having to use brokers and separate clearance.
Apr 04 04:56:16 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: You want something else.  And you are free to make something completely different from MtGox if you think it will be successfull.  I don't.
Apr 04 04:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	sturles are you about to propose shithole mtgox doing 100mn a month is larger an operation than six ?
Apr 04 04:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	it is not don;'t be silly.
Apr 04 04:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	well... this isn't a vote.
Apr 04 04:56:49 <taub>	There are a few things that we can implement to help fight the attacks, such as disconnecting the trade engine backend from the Internet. By separating the data center from the Mt.Gox website, we will continue to be able to trade
Apr 04 04:56:53 <taub>	THESE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS
Apr 04 04:57:02 <taub>	i wonder what they do over there srsly
Apr 04 04:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	taub take 3 weeks to read trilema. dun dun dun.
Apr 04 04:57:27 <TradeFortress>	not doing anything obviously
Apr 04 04:57:33 <sturles>	The "shithole mtgox" happens to be the only bicoin trading site able to handle this number of traders and activity.
Apr 04 04:57:52 <sturles>	If it is so simple to make something better, you should go ahead and do it.
Apr 04 04:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	sturles "Thanks to high capacity reserves and an average round-trip latency of just 37 microseconds for equity trading, investment decisions can be implemented faster and risks adjusted more quickly"
Apr 04 04:57:55 <TradeFortress>	^ also with an unacceptable amount of lag.
Apr 04 04:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	read that number again.
Apr 04 04:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	37 microseconds. get it ?
Apr 04 04:58:24 <mircea_popescu>	not mili.
Apr 04 04:58:41 <TradeFortress>	I'm pretty sure many exchanges are going to hit similar amounts of lag if they reach gox's amount of users and trades
Apr 04 04:58:43 <sturles>	And I don't believe SIX has more people talking to their API than MtGox.  Not for a second.
Apr 04 04:58:46 <TradeFortress>	but that doesn't make it something you should accept
Apr 04 04:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	sturles you don't believe six handles more trade thoroughput than mtgox ?!
Apr 04 04:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	what is this, the cartoons ?
Apr 04 04:59:22 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: That was not what I wrote.
Apr 04 04:59:34 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: You are comparing apples and oranges.
Apr 04 04:59:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11539 @ 0.00069906 = 8.0665 BTC [-]
Apr 04 04:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	listen, not to be an ass, but are you at all qualified to discuss this topic ?
Apr 04 04:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 711 @ 0.00069661 = 0.4953 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:00:05 <sturles>	MtGox wouldn't be dreaming of their current volume if they converted to a traditional stock exchange model.
Apr 04 05:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	other than being involved in bitcoin, do you know anything about exchanges etc ?
Apr 04 05:00:22 <sturles>	So volume would be irrelevant.
Apr 04 05:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	because there seem to be pretty huge disconnects here i can't quite bridge.
Apr 04 05:00:49 <sturles>	Yes, I know a few things about exchanges and how they work.
Apr 04 05:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	okay.
Apr 04 05:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	so then what difference do you see between what i wrote and what you wrote above ?
Apr 04 05:01:30 <sturles>	Stock exchanges work by letting licenced brokers do their dirty work.
Apr 04 05:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 04 05:01:57 <sturles>	So MtGox is something completely different.
Apr 04 05:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	no, it is not.
Apr 04 05:02:11 <mircea_popescu>	listen, just because you think it is doesn't make it so.
Apr 04 05:02:21 <mircea_popescu>	as long as it exchanges it's an exchange.
Apr 04 05:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	same constraints apply, same results arise.
Apr 04 05:03:01 <sturles>	It is more of a broker than an exchange.
Apr 04 05:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	the model doesn't work tho, they need a platform to trade on.
Apr 04 05:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	once they get that nothing prevents them from being their own amtrade
Apr 04 05:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	and offer a website front for people to connect to
Apr 04 05:03:26 <sturles>	An exchange handles a very limited part of the exchange process.
Apr 04 05:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	and then that'd be the inhouse broker.
Apr 04 05:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	heck, that's exactly what mpex does atm.
Apr 04 05:04:12 <sturles>	So, does Mpex handle MtGox's number of users, volume and frequency?
Apr 04 05:04:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7571 BTC [+]
Apr 04 05:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Apr 04 05:04:21 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.106014966965 seconds
Apr 04 05:04:40 <mircea_popescu>	that's the key factor. get back to me when you see it over .2 or so.
Apr 04 05:05:13 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: At what frequency?  How many trades per second?
Apr 04 05:05:21 <sturles>	And how many connected users?
Apr 04 05:05:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7573 BTC [+]
Apr 04 05:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	sturles there's about 2k requests simultaenous atm
Apr 04 05:05:39 <mircea_popescu>	when mpoe bot refreshes its book
Apr 04 05:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	which mtgox never handles, afaik.
Apr 04 05:06:08 <sturles>	Howe many trades per second?
Apr 04 05:06:30 <mircea_popescu>	dude. mpex gets ~2000 orders SIMULTAENOUSLY.
Apr 04 05:06:35 <mircea_popescu>	this happens every ~10 minutes.
Apr 04 05:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	as far as i know the most mtgox can take is something to the order of 10 simultaneous orders. certainly not 100.
Apr 04 05:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	there is a huge gap here.
Apr 04 05:08:26 <TradeFortress>	gox orders do tend to fill more asks/bids, don't they?
Apr 04 05:08:42 <sturles>	MtGox does no simultaneous orders for the same currency (BTC), because there is one order book.  Like a stock exchange trading only one stock.
Apr 04 05:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	what difference does that make ?
Apr 04 05:10:42 <mircea_popescu>	suppose 2000 users all happened to put an order in at the same time.
Apr 04 05:12:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13582 @ 0.00069661 = 9.4614 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:13:13 <sturles>	Two bids can not be matched against the same ask, for one thing.  You need locking.  MtGox also process all orders in strict sequence.
Apr 04 05:13:27 <mircea_popescu>	this is neither here nor there.
Apr 04 05:13:30 <sturles>	No sneaking in the order queue.
Apr 04 05:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	what's it to do with anything ?
Apr 04 05:13:59 <sturles>	Fairness.
Apr 04 05:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	...
Apr 04 05:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	let's get back on track here.
Apr 04 05:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	people issue orders. engine chokes.
Apr 04 05:14:39 <sturles>	With only one asset to trade, it is impossible to match two orders at the same time.
Apr 04 05:14:46 <mircea_popescu>	you don't have to match them
Apr 04 05:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	you just process them.
Apr 04 05:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	add them to the book, for instance.
Apr 04 05:15:11 <sturles>	Yes, and when the book overlaps?
Apr 04 05:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	you spit out the trade.
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Apr 04 05:15:27 <sturles>	Correct.
Apr 04 05:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 04 05:15:44 <sturles>	That's basically what MtGox does.
Apr 04 05:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	yes. the problem here is this : mpex gets 2k simultaneous orders, lag stays under .2
Apr 04 05:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox gets 10 simultaneous orders, lag spikes over 100
Apr 04 05:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	look through their historical list, rarely will they report anything over 100 trades a minute, even at the height of height.
Apr 04 05:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	this is their engine choking, it can't process fast enough.
Apr 04 05:17:36 <sturles>	How many simultaneous orders do you think MtGox gets?  My home network isn't able to handle their socketio feed of order book changes when the lag approaches 300s.
Apr 04 05:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	heh, see above.
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Apr 04 05:18:35 <sturles>	MtGox process more than 10 trades a second even during high load.  The number of order book changes is _a lot_ higher.
Apr 04 05:19:51 <sturles>	The number of orders happening simultaneously (nothing does), is irrelevant.
Apr 04 05:20:03 <taub>	arent there like multiple open source exchanges?
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Apr 04 05:20:08 <taub>	by now
Apr 04 05:20:10 <sturles>	Yes, there are.
Apr 04 05:20:27 <sturles>	None of them come close to MtGox in speed.
Apr 04 05:20:36 <taub>	not sure about that :)
Apr 04 05:20:45 <sturles>	Try them.
Apr 04 05:21:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6507 @ 0.00069661 = 4.5328 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:21:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4811 @ 0.00069484 = 3.3429 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:21:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00069391 = 6.6615 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10682 @ 0.0006928 = 7.4005 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 05:22:03 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: Does mpex really process 2k trades simultaneously for the same asset?
Apr 04 05:22:17 <sturles>	With only 0.2 s lag?
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Apr 04 05:22:49 <sturles>	Or are you comparing apples to oranges again?  Trades != order book changes.
Apr 04 05:23:05 <taub>	they have to decouple their frontside with registration, account management etc from their trading engine
Apr 04 05:23:28 <taub>	i dont think the matching engine can focus on matching ... it also calculates new balances etc
Apr 04 05:23:43 <taub>	and checks if you have enough balance to put in an order
Apr 04 05:24:15 <taub>	its got some fundamental design flaws :s
Apr 04 05:24:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 56 @ 0.00321 = 0.1798 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:24:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.0032 = 0.0512 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:24:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00316 = 0.316 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:24:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00314 = 0.0157 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:24:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 32 @ 0.003108 = 0.0995 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	sturles it's not trades, it's orders.
Apr 04 05:26:49 <mircea_popescu>	can you show me some documentation somewhere for this part : "MtGox process more than 10 trades a second even during high load.  The number of order book changes is _a lot_ higher."
Apr 04 05:26:56 <mircea_popescu>	cause that i'd benefit by
Apr 04 05:27:00 <sturles>	taub: A few things can be done, yes.  An important (to me) feature of MtGox is the ability to have inactive orders (due to lack of funds) automatically activated when funds arrive.  Removing this feature, and only allowing funded orders, will speed up the exchange a lot.  But it will also remove an important feature making the exchange less attractive for that reason.
Apr 04 05:27:36 <taub>	that is a nice feature, but it lags the engine down
Apr 04 05:27:39 <mircea_popescu>	this is irrelevant in the discussion tho.
Apr 04 05:27:51 <sturles>	Based on simple counting of trades in #bitcoin-market.
Apr 04 05:27:54 <taub>	its one of the main reasons it lags, and they can have that feature and still not make the exchange lag
Apr 04 05:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	having some tinker-product homebrew nonsensical thing used as a trade engine is nonsense.
Apr 04 05:28:16 <mircea_popescu>	sturles orderbook changes show in #bitcoin-market ?
Apr 04 05:28:43 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: I have been working in IT for more than 20 years, and homebrew beats commercial products in 9 of 10 cases,.
Apr 04 05:28:50 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: No.
Apr 04 05:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	yeah well, i'm putting all this down to geek disease then.
Apr 04 05:29:06 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: You have to use the socketIO feed for that.
Apr 04 05:29:33 <taub>	you mean autism?
Apr 04 05:29:43 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: And my home network is only 6 mbit/s, so I can't follow it during the DDoS sessions.  To many order changes.
Apr 04 05:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	no, just this bizzaro superman attitude. homebrew beats commercial.
Apr 04 05:29:57 <mircea_popescu>	wtf, we're talking about pretty much the one field where that's not the case.
Apr 04 05:30:15 <sturles>	So prove it FFS.
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Apr 04 05:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not interested in handling fiat and this is not an argument.
Apr 04 05:30:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:30:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.003 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:30:36 <sturles>	If you think you can go out buy a better bitcoin exchange, just do it.
Apr 04 05:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	listen to me. this isn't a case of "i think"
Apr 04 05:31:13 <mircea_popescu>	this is a case of me having some competence and a bunch of geeks thinking they know better on the strength of their experience hacking their own nat router.
Apr 04 05:31:13 <sturles>	Yes, so far it is you thinking.
Apr 04 05:32:20 <sturles>	How many trades per second can mpex handle in the same asset while the number of orders are still ticking in at 2k/s?
Apr 04 05:32:53 <mircea_popescu>	it makes no difference. trades aren't a bottleneck. if the 2k orders result in 2k trades or 2k orderbook changes or nothing at all, it's the same.
Apr 04 05:33:04 <mircea_popescu>	and 2k it should be able to support indefinitely.
Apr 04 05:34:26 <mircea_popescu>	obviously that's tested reality and real reality will diverge as soon as it gets a chance, but still.
Apr 04 05:34:35 <sturles>	How many currencies can I trade the same asset in?
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Apr 04 05:34:47 <mircea_popescu>	what ?
Apr 04 05:35:22 <sturles>	MtGox supports matching buys and asks in different currencies to each other.  How many does mpex handle?
Apr 04 05:35:29 <mircea_popescu>	what sort of left field nonsense is that! mtgox only trades bitcoin. mpex only trades bitcoin. that mtgox has usd and eur and aud and w/e assets
Apr 04 05:35:35 <sturles>	This is the second largest reason for their slowness.
Apr 04 05:35:40 <mircea_popescu>	whereas mpex has s.dice and s.bbet etc makes jackshit of a difference.
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Apr 04 05:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	i think you're confused.
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Apr 04 05:36:51 <sturles>	MtGox trades bitcoin against a long list of different currencies.  A separate order book for each currency.  Order books are connected at +/-2 2.5% of current exchange value.
Apr 04 05:37:24 <sturles>	This is the number two reason for slowness.
Apr 04 05:37:31 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess the long list of ~250 option lines is longer than whatever list of mtgox currencies
Apr 04 05:37:37 <mircea_popescu>	which iirc was like 8.
Apr 04 05:38:52 <sturles>	A bit more: USD, AUD, CAD, CHF, CNY, DKK, EUR, GBP, HKD, JPY, NZD, PLN, RUB, SEK, SGD, THB
Apr 04 05:39:04 <mircea_popescu>	mkay...
Apr 04 05:39:23 <mircea_popescu>	so what, i can put an order to sell a bitcoin for 2 cad or 2.5 dkk ?
Apr 04 05:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	why's this a big deal /
Apr 04 05:40:06 <sturles>	Because the order has to be reflected in all order books.
Apr 04 05:40:32 <sturles>	At currency conversion rate +2.5%.
Apr 04 05:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	so you get some order replication.
Apr 04 05:40:38 <mircea_popescu>	um.
Apr 04 05:40:48 <mircea_popescu>	wait, the conversion is not user  specified ?
Apr 04 05:40:53 <sturles>	No.
Apr 04 05:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	...
Apr 04 05:40:58 <mircea_popescu>	then ?
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Apr 04 05:41:02 <sturles>	Automatic.
Apr 04 05:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	don't be silly. there's no such thing. they query some service ?
Apr 04 05:41:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0033331 = 0.6666 BTC [-]
Apr 04 05:41:49 <sturles>	They use the current ECB rate for currency conversion.
Apr 04 05:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	so then it's a magic number, they load it once a day
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Apr 04 05:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	i fail to see the big deal.
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Apr 04 05:42:47 <sturles>	Yes.  The big deal is that one order book change becomes 16.
Apr 04 05:43:05 <mircea_popescu>	this is not a big deal, unless you're homebrew.
Apr 04 05:43:11 <sturles>	Rate changes may cause trades to happen-
Apr 04 05:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	seriously, this was an exercise in wasting my time.
Apr 04 05:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox still needs to get a real platform and professionalise.
Apr 04 05:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin geeks still need to give up the disease and get serious.
Apr 04 05:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	nothing changed.
Apr 04 05:44:03 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: What does homebrew has to do with anything?
Apr 04 05:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	you are sitting there and seriously telling me 16x replication is a big deal ?
Apr 04 05:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	this on top of the entire six doesn't come close to mtgox ?
Apr 04 05:44:35 <sturles>	Except showing lack of experience in IT.
Apr 04 05:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	listen, experience in it is a commodity. it's worth a salary, nothing more.
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Apr 04 05:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	we are here in management territory. different beast.
Apr 04 05:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	managers make %s.
Apr 04 05:45:30 <sturles>	You are still comparing apples and oranges.  SIX != MtGox.  Not even close.  In so many ways I don't even bother to get started.
Apr 04 05:46:21 <mircea_popescu>	as far as i'm concerned the situation here is that you are grossly unqualified to discuss this matter and still insist to do so (because as per the texbook you also lack the metacognitive abilities that'd allow you to realise you're way off).
Apr 04 05:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	the only way this goes any further is we start insulting each other, so let's just leave it be.
Apr 04 05:48:26 <sturles>	And believe me -- I have tried many times to get expensive commercial solutions to difficult problems to work, and in most cases I end up with a much faster and better working homebrew solution.  Commercial software developers do it for their salary, not for efficiency, elegance or anything else.
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Apr 04 05:50:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 04 05:50:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.00000, Best ask: 132.98098, Bid-ask spread: 0.98098, Last trade: 131.83755, 24 hour volume: 125243.62956022, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.71252
Apr 04 05:50:54 <sturles>	If you think you can buy a better exchange and make it work better, then please go ahead.  Everyone will encourage you to do so.  If you are successful, you better be prepared for 100 Gbps DDoS attacks as well, but that should be no problem because every broker has a dedicated line.  Right?
Apr 04 05:51:19 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 04 05:51:21 <gribble>	59892.4976199
Apr 04 05:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	sturles you're not keeping up. i HAD 100gbps ddos
Apr 04 05:51:23 <mircea_popescu>	and i beat it.
Apr 04 05:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	did you read the articles in discussion ?
Apr 04 05:51:57 <ThickAsThieves>	nethash down 5%
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Apr 04 05:52:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 05:52:04 <sturles>	How nice for you.  No.  How many trades per second was the DDoS able to generate, btw?
Apr 04 05:52:05 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 40.399133 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0809594102008 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
Apr 04 05:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	none, it being A DDOS.
Apr 04 05:52:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 04 05:52:30 <mircea_popescu>	but seriously, please inform yourself before starting discussions, this is unseemly.
Apr 04 05:52:33 <sturles>	DDoS against MtGox is a bit more sophisticated then.
Apr 04 05:52:33 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229633 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 190 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7785577.676 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.27508
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Apr 04 05:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/mpex-ddosed-an-epic
Apr 04 05:52:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/the-many-ways-available-for-talking-to-mpex
Apr 04 05:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	that's a start.
Apr 04 05:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	look around there, then we can talk more.
Apr 04 05:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	and for the record, "mtgox ddos" is just mtgox crashing under sell pressure.
Apr 04 05:53:53 <mircea_popescu>	which, i would hope, you've read the most recent trilema article on and know how it was arrived at and why.
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Apr 04 05:54:09 <ThickAsThieves>	SDICE bids are way down, people are dumb
Apr 04 05:54:21 <ThickAsThieves>	but i'm enjoying it
Apr 04 05:54:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18085 @ 0.00070861 = 12.8152 BTC [+]
Apr 04 05:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 04 05:55:27 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0031 / 0.00311313 / 0.0035 (389309 shares, 1,211.97 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00320452 / 0.00439992 (1029516 shares, 3,299.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00375453 / 0.006 (1726765 shares, 6,483.20 BTC)
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Apr 04 05:55:37 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 04 05:55:49 <ThickAsThieves>	high bid is .00212
Apr 04 05:56:03 <ThickAsThieves>	similar on PTs
Apr 04 05:56:04 <mircea_popescu>	1k traded today wiped the bids ?
Apr 04 05:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	$depth s.dice
Apr 04 05:56:08 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: S.DICE Bids: ['5000 @ 0.00212', '4000 @ 0.002101', '7500 @ 0.00123', '600 @ 0.001002', '100 @ 0.00100121']
Apr 04 05:56:09 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['5291 @ 0.00333', '21363 @ 0.00333333', '700 @ 0.0035', '1500 @ 0.00389996', '29541 @ 0.00389997']
Apr 04 05:56:10 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: You should at leas try to inform yourself about the DDoS against MtGox before coming with uninformed nonsense "for the record".
Apr 04 05:56:36 <mircea_popescu>	sturles anything speciffic ?
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Apr 04 05:58:14 <mircea_popescu>	see, that's the problem here. when i tell you you have to read up i give you what to read up.
Apr 04 05:58:21 <sturles>	The pattern that has been repeated the last weeks is: DDoS starting against companies providing fast funding to MtGox, like Dwdolla, then a massive DDoS against MtGox, then only seconds later, massive selloff.  Causing panic.  Prolexis spends some time to mitigate the DDoS, and by then the panic is widespread.
Apr 04 05:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	when you tell me to read up there's nothing there outside of very bad mtgox pr.
Apr 04 05:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	except this is bull, but anyway.
Apr 04 05:59:05 <sturles>	It is from the mouth of MagicalTux.
Apr 04 05:59:13 <sturles>	Or keybopard.
Apr 04 05:59:15 <ThickAsThieves>	the Gox problems are good
Apr 04 05:59:22 <ThickAsThieves>	causes people to seek alternatives
Apr 04 05:59:29 <ThickAsThieves>	and Gox to man up
Apr 04 05:59:33 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe
Apr 04 05:59:46 <sturles>	I hope they continue.  I profit massively during panics.
Apr 04 05:59:55 <mircea_popescu>	more power to you.
Apr 04 06:00:29 <sturles>	As long as they continue, I will be using MtGox.  Hmm.  Perhaps it is actually good for their business..
Apr 04 06:00:57 <ThickAsThieves>	people's rationale usually tends to lean toward where their profit is
Apr 04 06:01:16 <ThickAsThieves>	everyone that owns possibly too much asicminer stock, says "its underpriced!"
Apr 04 06:01:41 <ThickAsThieves>	if they sold too early "its overpriced!"
Apr 04 06:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	and if they happen to be used to something "it's great"
Apr 04 06:02:00 <ThickAsThieves>	right
Apr 04 06:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	and if they're too lazy to read on something else "it's bad"
Apr 04 06:02:11 <ThickAsThieves>	mmhm
Apr 04 06:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	and on and on. sure. intellectual lazyness is the main driver of human behaviour.
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Apr 04 06:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	but that aside, mtgox has been bleeding marketshare since late 2011
Apr 04 06:03:06 <mircea_popescu>	strictly for being inept in pretty much every aspect.
Apr 04 06:03:13 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't count on them being around much longer.
Apr 04 06:04:09 <ThickAsThieves>	they will probably flail with some ugly moves before letting go of this cash cow
Apr 04 06:04:31 <mircea_popescu>	yeah well...
Apr 04 06:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	but let's be optiomistic : they've been given a boon these coupla months
Apr 04 06:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they know what to do with it and reinvent themselves.
Apr 04 06:05:04 <ThickAsThieves>	like adding litecoin?
Apr 04 06:05:05 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 04 06:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	it's all spelled out for them, they can just steal it uncredited like before for all i care.
Apr 04 06:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
Apr 04 06:06:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
Apr 04 06:06:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.37 = 1.11 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 06:24:18 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 04 06:24:20 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 127.34
Apr 04 06:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin has been stable for the past 24 hours gasp
Apr 04 06:25:54 <Uglux>	thank god for another shitstorm on gox
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Apr 04 06:35:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 06:35:06 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.056398 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000113020960537 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 04 06:35:10 <ThickAsThieves>	!
Apr 04 06:35:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 04 06:35:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.14634, Best ask: 133.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05365, Last trade: 133.20000, 24 hour volume: 119965.62436588, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.58826
Apr 04 06:35:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm amazed that after all that the price held
Apr 04 06:35:56 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Apr 04 06:36:21 <ThickAsThieves>	kinda had a feeling that the run up was caused by gox lag entirely
Apr 04 06:36:34 <ThickAsThieves>	and might be artificial
Apr 04 06:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	nah, it was all the press.
Apr 04 06:36:38 <error4733>	12K in mt gox queue
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Apr 04 06:37:01 <ThickAsThieves>	are you serious
Apr 04 06:37:23 <ThickAsThieves>	12000?
Apr 04 06:37:40 <ThickAsThieves>	where do i check that info again?
Apr 04 06:38:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess in the scheme of things its not a lot of people
Apr 04 06:38:07 <ThickAsThieves>	but its a lot more than usual
Apr 04 06:38:23 <troc>	rumour info, its what people report when they are in the queue
Apr 04 06:38:33 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Apr 04 06:39:21 <troc>	also via fb : Last year, Mt.Gox saw an average of 9,000 to 10,000 new accounts created every month. This number doubled in January, tripled in February, and sextupled in March. In this month alone, over 57,000 new accounts were created!
Apr 04 06:39:50 <Uglux>	decentralize my ass
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Apr 04 06:41:43 <MJR_>	hi all
Apr 04 06:42:02 <MJR_>	anyone read gox's latest statement?
Apr 04 06:42:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C167N] 3 @ 0.32508438 = 0.9753 BTC
Apr 04 06:43:04 <ThickAsThieves>	The N options just turn into T's at the end of the month, correct?
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Apr 04 06:44:07 <ThickAsThieves>	(for owner)
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Apr 04 06:50:56 <bitesak>	MJR_, yes and MP wrote a post about it http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/its-been-an-epic-few-days-what-happened/
Apr 04 06:51:47 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 04 06:51:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.10000, Best ask: 133.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 133.15000, 24 hour volume: 119390.78497527, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.53063
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Apr 04 06:52:19 <MJR_>	cool thanks...i was just going to point out the one pertinent fact
Apr 04 06:52:27 <MJR_>	5700 new accounts in march a new record
Apr 04 06:52:32 <MJR_>	current queue at 12600
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Apr 04 06:54:02 <error4733>	57000* i guess
Apr 04 06:54:22 <bitesak>	the pertinent fact is slightly in between the lines. The statement doesn't quite instill confidence.
Apr 04 06:55:25 <error4733>	please explain
Apr 04 06:55:48 <KRS1337>	if i have old account but never verified will i float to the top
Apr 04 06:55:51 <KRS1337>	ya think?
Apr 04 06:56:05 <KRS1337>	whats up MJR
Apr 04 06:56:43 <MJR_>	well, i am not talking about gox
Apr 04 06:56:57 <MJR_>	i don't care, i've never traded there and we all know they suck...let's move on to the next topic
Apr 04 06:57:03 <MJR_>	which would be increased adoption
Apr 04 06:57:33 <MJR_>	new accounts opened is a good metric for how much it's growing
Apr 04 06:58:06 <MJR_>	but I also thought that it was hilarious that they said "All exchanges suffer from lag"...yeah and we measure it in microseconds
Apr 04 06:58:14 <MJR_>	not minutes
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Apr 04 07:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes, n turns to t
Apr 04 07:08:18 <gesell>	i highly doubt other exchanges would be prepared for such a DDoS. The issue is that people using other exchanges would make the target less obvious
Apr 04 07:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	gesell this is a solved problem.
Apr 04 07:08:53 <mircea_popescu>	have trade engine separate from broker/website,
Apr 04 07:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	use distributed methods to diffuse ddos.
Apr 04 07:09:56 <gesell>	yeah was also thinking about this but I guess it depends on the nature of the DDoS. If it is similar to that used against spamhaus a few weeks ago... the attacker could still induce panic by attacking the website and read only API to get ticker
Apr 04 07:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	again :
Apr 04 07:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	you have the trade engine separate
Apr 04 07:10:35 <gesell>	but in general spreading out the interfaces over different hauls could help, while also adding a lot of complexity
Apr 04 07:10:40 <mircea_popescu>	you can make one broker website per datacenter
Apr 04 07:10:42 <gesell>	i just aknowledge that
Apr 04 07:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Apr 04 07:10:59 <mircea_popescu>	i think im getting a little frazzled i've been doing nothing but explaining this for the past 3 hours
Apr 04 07:11:16 <gesell>	did you read about the DDoS against spamhaus?
Apr 04 07:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 04 07:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_> but I also thought that it was hilarious that they said "All exchanges suffer from lag"...yeah and we measure it in microseconds << just had this discussion above, was explaining how six promises 37 microsecond delay
Apr 04 07:12:09 <ChaangNoi>	btct.co working?
Apr 04 07:12:56 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks147
Apr 04 07:12:56 <gribble>	Error: "asks147" is not a valid command.
Apr 04 07:13:04 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 147
Apr 04 07:13:07 <gribble>	There are currently 11713.428 bitcoins offered at or under 147.0 USD, worth 1658048.18491 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
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Apr 04 07:16:49 <sturles>	MJR_: MtGox reports lag in microseconds as well.  I have been logging every minute for a while, and the most common value is 0.  On a normal day with just a few standard DDoS attacks, it is above 1 second a few times every hour.
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Apr 04 07:17:08 <mircea_popescu>	i don't recall mtgoxlag under 1
Apr 04 07:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 07:17:14 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 04 07:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	hey.
Apr 04 07:17:20 <sturles>	Heh. :-)
Apr 04 07:17:43 <ChaangNoi>	btct.co is fail for me, they being ddosed?
Apr 04 07:17:59 <sturles>	SIX doesn't provide API access to the entire internet.  Can't compare it.
Apr 04 07:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox 	10.84 	a few seconds ago 	133.50
Apr 04 07:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox 	0.08 	a minute ago 	133.33
Apr 04 07:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox 	5.12 	4 minutes ago 	133.50
Apr 04 07:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox 	48.50 	7 minutes ago 	133.30
Apr 04 07:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox 	0.25 	7 minutes ago 	133.00
Apr 04 07:18:38 <mircea_popescu>	is that a full list of the last trades ?
Apr 04 07:18:58 <sturles>	Where is it from?
Apr 04 07:19:03 <ChaangNoi>	yeah it looks like no one can make trades
Apr 04 07:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoinity
Apr 04 07:19:16 <ChaangNoi>	or no one is for whatever reason,
Apr 04 07:19:39 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi http://btct.co/ doesn't load here. do i have the wrong url ?
Apr 04 07:19:54 <ChaangNoi>	its one of the exchanges
Apr 04 07:19:54 <ThickAsThieves>	its down
Apr 04 07:20:00 <ThickAsThieves>	as is litecoinglobal.com
Apr 04 07:20:02 <ChaangNoi>	the stock exchanges
Apr 04 07:20:08 <ChaangNoi>	hmm
Apr 04 07:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 04 07:20:13 <ThickAsThieves>	both burnside's sites
Apr 04 07:20:21 <ThickAsThieves>	this has happened before
Apr 04 07:20:23 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: Doesn't look like it.  Seems to be USD only.  Much of the trading on MtGox is in other currencies.
Apr 04 07:20:24 <ChaangNoi>	yeah, i was just trying ot take out money lol
Apr 04 07:20:29 <ThickAsThieves>	he's probably rebooting or something
Apr 04 07:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	so let's see : the part where i say "attacker has found his weak spot, moves on" is pretty accurate.
Apr 04 07:20:44 <mircea_popescu>	now the part where mtgox comes out with self congratulatory bit remains.
Apr 04 07:20:45 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe adding a feature
Apr 04 07:20:48 <ChaangNoi>	ok
Apr 04 07:21:08 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe stealing your money
Apr 04 07:21:10 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 04 07:21:20 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i'll bet its ddos
Apr 04 07:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	sturles most of their volume is usd.
Apr 04 07:21:28 <ChaangNoi>	seems like its back
Apr 04 07:22:09 <mircea_popescu>	i still don't see it
Apr 04 07:22:25 <sturles>	mircea_popescu: Yes, many trades are mix-trades between e.g. EUR and USD.  And most other currency trades are low in volume.
Apr 04 07:22:39 <ChaangNoi>	lol worked until i wanted to take out money, broke again
Apr 04 07:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	sturles i dunno what mix trades means there.
Apr 04 07:23:04 <sturles>	The other currency order books are also stuffed with lots and lots of 0.01235 orders.  Which makes many trades for just one coin.
Apr 04 07:23:29 <sturles>	A mix trade is where an order in one currency was matched with an order in another currency.
Apr 04 07:24:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75679 BTC [-]
Apr 04 07:24:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7568 BTC [+]
Apr 04 07:24:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.756899 = 4.5414 BTC [+]
Apr 04 07:25:20 <mircea_popescu>	i still don't grasp why you imagine this'd make a difference.
Apr 04 07:25:28 <sturles>	Also note that many sites reporting MtGox trades aggregates many small trades into one report.  Like this example from #bitcoin-market:
Apr 04 07:25:31 <sturles>	13:24 <+amphipod> Apr04 11:24:18 mtgox     x11    28.8811 @   133.42578222 USD
Apr 04 07:26:02 <sturles>	11 trades making up a total 28.8811 BTC at the average price of 133.42578222 USD.
Apr 04 07:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 04 07:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	so find me a space where that bot reports > 100 trades a minute.
Apr 04 07:26:38 <sturles>	16 order books to check instad of one.  Why would that make 0 difference?
Apr 04 07:26:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [+]
Apr 04 07:26:54 <mircea_popescu>	...
Apr 04 07:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	this is like saying querying 5000 records is not the same thing as querying 5000 records.
Apr 04 07:27:21 <mircea_popescu>	either you don't at all understand the topic or are trolling me.
Apr 04 07:28:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.757 = 1.514 BTC [+]
Apr 04 07:28:39 <ChaangNoi>	gox lag is back up
Apr 04 07:28:55 <ChaangNoi>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 07:28:56 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 37.58024 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0753103801907 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
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Apr 04 07:29:41 <sturles>	10:31 <+amphipod> Apr04 08:29:07 mtgox    x149   555.6407 @   133.52494269 USD
Apr 04 07:29:50 <sturles>	Several other trades during the same minute.
Apr 04 07:30:11 <mircea_popescu>	well the 0 lag was nice while it lasted.
Apr 04 07:30:34 <mircea_popescu>	sturles a little more than just the one line if you don't mind
Apr 04 07:31:07 <sturles>	Join the channel youself if you care so much.
Apr 04 07:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	i am trying to help you structure your own argument.
Apr 04 07:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	i care not at all otherwise.
Apr 04 07:32:08 <sturles>	Why should I quote more?  There are more than 100 right there.  And I tild you there were trades before and after during the same minute.
Apr 04 07:32:53 <sturles>	But because #bitcoin-market reports trades from most exchanges, there are several unimpoprtant lines in between.
Apr 04 07:33:24 <mircea_popescu>	because the aggregated set would logically be from between the previous and the next report
Apr 04 07:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	and so it's prbably the bot aggregated 149 trades over 5 minutes or something
Apr 04 07:34:04 <sturles>	No, I told you, there were otehr (aggregated) trades reported in the same minute, before and after.
Apr 04 07:34:37 <sturles>	I'm not going to paste everything here.  Will get dropped for flooding.
Apr 04 07:34:59 <sturles>	Just join the channel to see for yourself.
Apr 04 07:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	mk
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Apr 04 07:38:17 <ThickAsThieves>	why is the ATH being reported as 142
Apr 04 07:38:21 <ThickAsThieves>	wasnt it 147?
Apr 04 07:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	because they dunno what they're doing
Apr 04 07:45:26 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 04 07:45:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.90500, Best ask: 136.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09500, Last trade: 136.00000, 24 hour volume: 115725.71210364, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.07562
Apr 04 07:46:08 <TradeFortress>	was the ATH less than 24 hrs ago?
Apr 04 07:46:17 <error4733>	bc 147 was 27h ago
Apr 04 07:46:22 <ThickAsThieves>	sh
Apr 04 07:46:26 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Apr 04 07:46:28 <ThickAsThieves>	oh
Apr 04 07:46:31 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
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Apr 04 07:47:28 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 07:47:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 26.943103 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.053993676742 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
Apr 04 07:48:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00479 BTC [+]
Apr 04 07:49:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00475 BTC [+]
Apr 04 07:52:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.000657 = 0.0131 BTC [-]
Apr 04 07:52:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 04 07:52:55 <gribble>	59843.2905525
Apr 04 07:52:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 04 07:52:59 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 7779848.36874 based on data since last change | 8359883.55097 based on data for last three days
Apr 04 07:53:28 <ThickAsThieves>	need more hashing
Apr 04 07:54:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4125 @ 0.00069631 = 2.8723 BTC [-]
Apr 04 07:55:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 13 @ 0.00475 = 0.0618 BTC [+]
Apr 04 07:56:26 <jurov>	sturles, highest mpex trade spike i have recorded in live.coinbr records is 100 trades/5 seconds on BitBet IPO
Apr 04 07:56:59 <jurov>	there was no noticeable lag at all, coinbr users ninja-inserted orders in the middle of it
Apr 04 07:57:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 88 @ 0.00401 = 0.3529 BTC [-]
Apr 04 07:57:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0038 BTC [-]
Apr 04 07:57:18 <ThickAsThieves>	ninjas, the missing ingredient
Apr 04 07:57:53 <jurov>	and there was certainly 1000 orders arriving/cancelled during that time
Apr 04 07:58:10 <jurov>	don't tell me mtgox can do this
Apr 04 07:59:22 <error4733>	Ddos attak :(
Apr 04 07:59:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 07:59:30 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 83.288833 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.166909888784 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 04 07:59:50 <ThickAsThieves>	who is next line after Gox?
Apr 04 07:59:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00315 = 0.315 BTC [-]
Apr 04 07:59:57 <ThickAsThieves>	in
Apr 04 08:00:05 <MJR_>	i just received a business inquiry...the email was in comic sans
Apr 04 08:00:14 <ThickAsThieves>	srs bsns
Apr 04 08:00:20 <MJR_>	i know
Apr 04 08:00:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00315 = 0.0347 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 08:00:31 <MJR_>	i'm like...is this your first time using a keyboard?
Apr 04 08:02:38 <ThickAsThieves>	I taught someone that has been using Windows for at least 10 years how to Alt-Tab the other day. "I need to hang around you more often!"
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Apr 04 08:07:17 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166397.0   I wonder what they say to these guys inquiring about investing millions in bitcoins
Apr 04 08:07:45 <ThickAsThieves>	"sorry sir, that's too many bitcoins, you'd break the system"
Apr 04 08:08:46 <error4733>	btc at 500$ before summer ?
Apr 04 08:08:59 <ThickAsThieves>	i hope so/not
Apr 04 08:09:19 <error4733>	same :D
Apr 04 08:10:15 <mircea_popescu>	jasmine tea and fresghly baked chocolate muffins. life sux dunnit.
Apr 04 08:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4518 @ 0.0006928 = 3.1301 BTC [-]
Apr 04 08:10:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2924 @ 0.00069168 = 2.0225 BTC [-]
Apr 04 08:11:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2508 @ 0.00069137 = 1.734 BTC [-]
Apr 04 08:11:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i got some nice jasmine tea recently, the fancy kind you put in a metal ball :)
Apr 04 08:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 04 08:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	there's this little shop just opened, very good quality stuffs.
Apr 04 08:15:00 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves don't believe everything you read in the newspapers btw.
Apr 04 08:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	20 calls a day for 100mn each ? 2bn a day ? yeah. right.
Apr 04 08:15:21 <MJR_>	my coworker gets me green tea from taiwan
Apr 04 08:15:22 <MJR_>	its good
Apr 04 08:16:00 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: lol...its crazy when you hang out with people who understand computers and then get confronted with "can we just make all of them blue" (select all)
Apr 04 08:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	casascius: Thanks for the excellent feedback.
Apr 04 08:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	mpoe-pr: If this is excellent I bet nobody eats what you cook.
Apr 04 08:20:56 <kakobrekla>	http://bou.si/pic/where-it-belongs.jpg
Apr 04 08:24:15 <error4733>	mp : i guess is 20 calls a day for a  total 100M$, i want belive hehe
Apr 04 08:24:34 <error4733>	still pocket change for big player
Apr 04 08:27:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8486 @ 0.00069365 = 5.8863 BTC [+]
Apr 04 08:29:12 <ThickAsThieves>	oh i didnt actually believe people wanna invest 100m
Apr 04 08:29:19 <ThickAsThieves>	just playing along :)
Apr 04 08:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	OJ to pump $1.4 trillion into economy
Apr 04 08:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	aand here i am trying to keep things civil ;/
Apr 04 08:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 yeah bullcrap.
Apr 04 08:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	there's not that many funds that have the sort of capital that'd allow them tio place 100mn into exotic weird thing, and also have the rifght profile.
Apr 04 08:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	none of them are calling unheard of whoever that guy is cause i don't know him
Apr 04 08:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	basically the media has turned into a sort of massive reddit, buncha people trying to perch themselves into the stratosphere
Apr 04 08:34:22 <error4733>	usualy i bet a good dinner in this case but roumania is to far if i win
Apr 04 08:34:48 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: on that last  point, i agree
Apr 04 08:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 what're we betting ?
Apr 04 08:36:21 <error4733>	no big player for 100M$+ before summer
Apr 04 08:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	let's do some math.
Apr 04 08:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 04 08:37:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.60001, Best ask: 137.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.39998, Last trade: 137.99999, 24 hour volume: 115568.41634731, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.02546
Apr 04 08:37:26 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 04 08:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0031 / 0.00311313 / 0.0035 (389309 shares, 1,211.97 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00320452 / 0.00439992 (1029516 shares, 3,299.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00375305 / 0.006 (1725125 shares, 6,474.50 BTC)
Apr 04 08:37:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc .13 * 311313 * 127.02546
Apr 04 08:37:40 <gribble>	5140808.01377
Apr 04 08:38:01 <mircea_popescu>	so that's about 5mn worth of outstanding s.dice stock. about the same worth of s.mpoe.
Apr 04 08:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	what's your 100mn guy to do, buy bitcoins and hold them ?
Apr 04 08:40:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market buy 25000
Apr 04 08:40:44 <gribble>	A market order to buy 25000 bitcoins right now would take 3717531.0041 USD and would take the last price up to 169.9000 USD, resulting in an average price of 148.7012 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
Apr 04 08:40:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market buy 100000
Apr 04 08:40:55 <gribble>	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 55695.451 bitcoins, for a total of 14145613197667.5664 USD and take the price to 9999999999998.9004. | Data vintage: 11.2836 seconds
Apr 04 08:41:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market buy 50000
Apr 04 08:41:12 <gribble>	A market order to buy 50000 bitcoins right now would take 14003105.1552 USD and would take the last price up to 1365.0843 USD, resulting in an average price of 280.0621 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 27.9421 seconds
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Apr 04 08:41:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market buy 75000
Apr 04 08:41:29 <gribble>	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 55695.451 bitcoins, for a total of 14145613197667.5664 USD and take the price to 9999999999998.9004. | Data vintage: 45.4887 seconds
Apr 04 08:41:38 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 04 08:41:50 <ThickAsThieves>	simply not enough bitcoins for $100m
Apr 04 08:43:13 <mircea_popescu>	besides, if you have a fund that sorta-fits the profile (exotic/emergent money market)
Apr 04 08:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	and 1bn+ under management
Apr 04 08:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	you may risk as much as 1-2mn. maybe 10mn if you're really huge.
Apr 04 08:44:09 <ThickAsThieves>	1m i could see
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Apr 04 08:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/bitcoin-and-silk-road-1385/#396095-acknowledgement-letter
Apr 04 08:45:28 <ThickAsThieves>	interesting
Apr 04 08:45:39 <ThickAsThieves>	old
Apr 04 08:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	ya, just... no answer.
Apr 04 08:46:46 <ThickAsThieves>	they just keep giving the same answer
Apr 04 08:46:54 <ThickAsThieves>	what are their obligations?
Apr 04 08:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	i never followed the foia stuffi n the us
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Apr 04 08:52:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.38 = 1.9 BTC [+]
Apr 04 08:54:27 <error4733>	re
Apr 04 09:02:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7568 = 2.2704 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 09:05:15 <ThickAsThieves>	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/03/bullseye-from-1000-yards-shooting-the-17000-linux-powered-rifle/
Apr 04 09:06:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:12:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 04 09:12:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.80000, Best ask: 141.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 140.80000, 24 hour volume: 121358.82585477, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.64149
Apr 04 09:12:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 09:13:00 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 23.416337 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0469260771656 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Apr 04 09:13:06 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 04 09:13:14 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 127.43
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Apr 04 09:16:01 <mircea_popescu>	it boggles me how the heck did sturles manage to reference gox lag the ONE TIME in the past... um... 6 months ?!
Apr 04 09:16:08 <mircea_popescu>	when it wasn;t like 20-2000 seconds
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Apr 04 09:19:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01998 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:19:38 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 04 09:19:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 09:19:42 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 23.913118 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0479216207274 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
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Apr 04 09:31:40 <pigeons>	topace: any word on rebroadcasting those transactions?
Apr 04 09:34:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i have a withdrawal in limbo from havelock :/
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Apr 04 09:34:53 <ThickAsThieves>	pm
Apr 04 09:35:03 <ThickAsThieves>	pm'd topace earlier no response yet
Apr 04 09:35:06 <sturles>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 09:35:06 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.076872 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000154050627298 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 04 09:35:19 <ThickAsThieves>	sturles controls goxlag!
Apr 04 09:35:46 <sturles>	Not really.  You probably don't check it unless you know it is high.
Apr 04 09:36:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i check it whenever i wanna get the ticker these days
Apr 04 09:36:32 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 04 09:36:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.66502, Best ask: 138.99998, Bid-ask spread: 0.33496, Last trade: 138.66500, 24 hour volume: 122517.04310522, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.75884
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Apr 04 09:39:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 273 @ 0.0032999 = 0.9009 BTC [-]
Apr 04 09:39:52 <damientrog>	does anybody know why the S.DICE stock keeps dropping?
Apr 04 09:40:22 <ThickAsThieves>	because people keep selling
Apr 04 09:40:30 <damientrog>	I know this month won't be much in dividend, but is there something else going on?
Apr 04 09:40:35 <damientrog>	really? :)
Apr 04 09:40:40 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 04 09:40:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i think that many people didnt realize there was no profit yet
Apr 04 09:41:01 <damientrog>	Erik didn't run off to Belize or something?
Apr 04 09:41:08 <ThickAsThieves>	some still might not
Apr 04 09:41:12 <error4733>	no
Apr 04 09:41:22 <damientrog>	alright thanks
Apr 04 09:41:30 <ThickAsThieves>	once divs and report are issued that will be real test of price
Apr 04 09:41:34 <error4733>	btc rally kill S.dice
Apr 04 09:41:41 <ThickAsThieves>	that also,
Apr 04 09:41:45 <ThickAsThieves>	people that wanna cash out
Apr 04 09:41:49 <ThickAsThieves>	need to sell their stocks
Apr 04 09:41:50 <damientrog>	yeah isn't the report overdue?
Apr 04 09:41:54 <error4733>	x11 since january
Apr 04 09:42:02 <damientrog>	that could also explain
Apr 04 09:42:18 <MJR_>	report is due by tomorrow
Apr 04 09:42:27 <error4733>	real value of s.dice didnt increase that much
Apr 04 09:42:28 <ThickAsThieves>	panic usually results in loss
Apr 04 09:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8743 @ 0.00069365 = 6.0646 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:42:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9157 @ 0.00069803 = 6.3919 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:42:38 <error4733>	it's a loss
Apr 04 09:42:40 <MJR_>	but real value of sdice hasn't dropped
Apr 04 09:42:50 <MJR_>	and its a great company
Apr 04 09:42:51 <error4733>	i sold.. because i didnt want lose any BTC
Apr 04 09:43:04 <damientrog>	I don't see how a casino can go that wrong
Apr 04 09:43:09 <damientrog>	seems like a low risk investment
Apr 04 09:43:10 <error4733>	yes but not x11 in 3 month
Apr 04 09:43:12 <ThickAsThieves>	error who are you? why not fix your username
Apr 04 09:43:23 <MJR_>	it hasn't really gone wrong
Apr 04 09:43:25 <ThickAsThieves>	or is that real?
Apr 04 09:43:27 <MJR_>	over time it will even out
Apr 04 09:43:30 <error4733>	its real
Apr 04 09:43:32 <damientrog>	indeed
Apr 04 09:43:33 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Apr 04 09:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	<damientrog> yeah isn't the report overdue? << should be today or tomorrow.
Apr 04 09:43:38 <MJR_>	they had one month where a couple of bit losses hit
Apr 04 09:43:55 <damientrog>	yeah even the house loses sometimes
Apr 04 09:44:00 <ThickAsThieves>	in my opinion Sdice is worth no less than when it was trading at .007
Apr 04 09:44:02 <damientrog>	over time that compensates
Apr 04 09:44:26 <damientrog>	exactly
Apr 04 09:44:30 <ThickAsThieves>	surely erik will have developments soon
Apr 04 09:44:42 <damientrog>	he did announce that on the forum
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Apr 04 09:44:46 <error4733>	we didnt talk about losse or wining, if btc was at 13$, i dont care about a shitty div
Apr 04 09:44:53 <error4733>	one month
Apr 04 09:44:55 <pgp>	when it comes to gambling, people still think in fiat terms...
Apr 04 09:45:09 <error4733>	her i talk about S.dice marketcap
Apr 04 09:46:01 <ThickAsThieves>	its not impossible for sdice to lower bid limit
Apr 04 09:46:11 <pgp>	what is is now - $50MM now?
Apr 04 09:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	about.
Apr 04 09:46:38 <pgp>	how about MPOE?  $75MM?
Apr 04 09:48:08 <mircea_popescu>	over 100
Apr 04 09:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 04 09:48:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067393 / 0.00069724 / 0.00070861 (286436 shares, 199.71 BTC), 7D: 0.00059218 / 0.00066086 / 0.00070861 (2774297 shares, 1,833.43 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00071925 / 0.00077505 (16002312 shares, 11,509.74 BTC)
Apr 04 09:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 04 09:48:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.15000, Best ask: 138.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.55000, Last trade: 138.00000, 24 hour volume: 122772.25005439, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.78223
Apr 04 09:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  719250 * 138
Apr 04 09:48:42 <gribble>	99256500
Apr 04 09:48:46 <mircea_popescu>	or just a little under.
Apr 04 09:49:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7567 BTC [-]
Apr 04 09:49:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7568 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:49:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.757 = 6.056 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.cnbc.com/id/100615508
Apr 04 09:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 04 09:51:24 <pgp>	interesting contrast - SDICE and MPOE - in terms of USD/BTC elasticity...
Apr 04 09:51:35 <error4733>	i see btc at 500$ in no time, S.dice just can worth 250m$, so it's a quick calcul, it's better for me to cashout
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Apr 04 09:51:48 <error4733>	cant*
Apr 04 09:54:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00358 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:55:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 23 @ 0.00359 = 0.0826 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:55:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 55 @ 0.00368 = 0.2024 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:55:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00367 BTC [-]
Apr 04 09:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:56:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 570 @ 0.0037 = 2.109 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 09:56:42 <pgp>	somebosy just wished me happy 404 day...
Apr 04 09:56:47 <pgp>	somebody
Apr 04 09:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 570 @ 0.00333 = 1.8981 BTC [+]
Apr 04 09:57:19 <pgp>	what is this world coming to?
Apr 04 09:57:20 <MJR_>	happy 404 day
Apr 04 09:58:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
Apr 04 09:58:34 <ThickAsThieves>	you know what is the worst, when you use your Kuerig for how water for your tea, but someone left a coffee k-cup inside
Apr 04 09:58:41 <ThickAsThieves>	end up with nasty coftea
Apr 04 09:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 sorry but 500 ain't happening
Apr 04 09:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	not in no time.
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Apr 04 10:00:42 <pgp>	not in no time = in time
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Apr 04 10:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	right.
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Apr 04 10:03:31 <error4733>	yes, i'm sure you told me that for 150 back in january (btc@13$)
Apr 04 10:04:32 <mircea_popescu>	quote me ?
Apr 04 10:04:56 <error4733>	just kididng
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Apr 04 10:07:06 <error4733>	but srsly x11 in 3 month, why not x3 before summer ?
Apr 04 10:08:03 <ThickAsThieves>	when is summer June 20?
Apr 04 10:08:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i forget
Apr 04 10:08:31 <pgp>	certainly possible, but I wouldn't be cheering for it...  then bitcoin will really be at risk of being in a bubble
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Apr 04 10:09:25 <deadweasely>	;;ticker
Apr 04 10:09:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.53335, Best ask: 136.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.41665, Last trade: 136.95000, 24 hour volume: 122772.25005439, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.78223
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Apr 04 10:10:12 <ThickAsThieves>	BTC would need to rise $4.7 per day to be $500 by June 20
Apr 04 10:10:53 <ThickAsThieves>	June 21
Apr 04 10:10:55 <ThickAsThieves>	er
Apr 04 10:11:00 <ThickAsThieves>	US summer
Apr 04 10:11:52 <error4733>	ok middle of summer
Apr 04 10:12:05 <deadweasely>	and 2.65 per day to be at $205 by may 1
Apr 04 10:12:55 <error4733>	"hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000"
Apr 04 10:13:05 <bitcoin_raider>	I am interested in purchasing shares of companies which issue dividends in BTC. Has anyone else here done this?
Apr 04 10:13:09 <ThickAsThieves>	yes its entirely possible
Apr 04 10:13:12 <ThickAsThieves>	but too fast
Apr 04 10:13:16 <ThickAsThieves>	imo
Apr 04 10:13:36 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoin_raider, yes
Apr 04 10:13:52 <ThickAsThieves>	but do your research
Apr 04 10:14:04 <ThickAsThieves>	and then do more
Apr 04 10:14:18 <MJR_>	good time to buy sdice
Apr 04 10:14:25 <MJR_>	undervalued IMO
Apr 04 10:14:41 <bitcoin_raider>	ThickAsThieves: thanks - I looked at sdice and their offering statement
Apr 04 10:15:08 <error4733>	ASCIMINER
Apr 04 10:15:20 <bitcoin_raider>	Are there any businesses which you would invest in that aren't exclusivley based on bitcoin ecosystem?
Apr 04 10:16:02 <Bugpowder>	yes, they are listed on NASDAQ
Apr 04 10:16:07 <deadweasely>	:)
Apr 04 10:16:13 <ThickAsThieves>	decent answer
Apr 04 10:16:15 <bitcoin_raider>	=)
Apr 04 10:16:41 <ThickAsThieves>	bitbet is starting to look interesting
Apr 04 10:16:45 <bitcoin_raider>	I own a business that sells physical things for both USD and BTC (we exhibit at defcon) and am considering trying to take it public on one of the BTC exchanges... I like the verified accounting it provides
Apr 04 10:17:19 <ThickAsThieves>	what do you sell
Apr 04 10:17:27 <bitcoin_raider>	RFID blcoking wallets
Apr 04 10:18:30 <bitcoin_raider>	what would I need to do/prove/etc to make a legit IPO offering. I see most just post their financials in a google doc
Apr 04 10:18:40 <bitcoin_raider>	but I don't seem to trust those
Apr 04 10:19:23 <ThickAsThieves>	do what you would want to see if YOU were an investor
Apr 04 10:20:08 <ThickAsThieves>	someone can link you to the MPOE-PR post
Apr 04 10:20:12 <troc>	blockchain stats ?
Apr 04 10:20:33 <ThickAsThieves>	elephants?
Apr 04 10:21:19 <pigeons>	ThickAsThieves: topace i got my withdrawl
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Apr 04 10:21:58 <ThickAsThieves>	me too
Apr 04 10:22:16 <ThickAsThieves>	now just have to wait 5 years for it to confirm
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Apr 04 10:27:49 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, error4733 , it's not a why not as much as a why risk it
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Apr 04 10:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	peopl seriously need to start adding tx fees.
Apr 04 10:29:11 <mircea_popescu>	what's this crazy stingyness
Apr 04 10:30:02 <MJR_>	looking forward to the day that companies are more focused on the product they make than the currency they use to finance their operations
Apr 04 10:30:20 <MJR_>	it's a little gimmicky right now
Apr 04 10:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	^
Apr 04 10:30:41 <MJR_>	sorry mircea_popescu, i cut off your arrow
Apr 04 10:30:54 <mircea_popescu>	no i just meant, yeah, me too.
Apr 04 10:34:04 <deadweasely>	mp, i sent .001 btc fee for 10btc txn, took 9 hours for first confirm...   we need a minimum fee schedule that people can choose to use or ignore.
Apr 04 10:34:24 <deadweasely>	i didnt know .0015 was expected
Apr 04 10:34:40 <Bugpowder>	wat?  .001 is slow now?
Apr 04 10:34:48 <Bugpowder>	i've been using .0006
Apr 04 10:35:12 <pgp>	i thought .0005 was good enough
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Apr 04 10:35:31 <pgp>	it's not like the miners are starving right now...
Apr 04 10:35:35 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasely o.o
Apr 04 10:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	this is insanity, my 0.001 stuff confirms next-block
Apr 04 10:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	are you running a very isolated node ?
Apr 04 10:36:13 <Bugpowder>	I figure .0006 is just enough to beat S.DICE
Apr 04 10:36:17 <ThickAsThieves>	it has been slow even with tx fee
Apr 04 10:36:23 <mircea_popescu>	fucking hell.
Apr 04 10:36:23 <ThickAsThieves>	dunno what topace includes
Apr 04 10:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	boys, we're getting connectivity problems. it's not the fees
Apr 04 10:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	the graph is splitting up ;/
Apr 04 10:36:46 <ThickAsThieves>	miners fuckin shit up
Apr 04 10:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	if you're in the wrong island and that island doesn't solve blocks you don;'t get in
Apr 04 10:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's not the miners
Apr 04 10:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	it's the nodes. too few nodes. argh
Apr 04 10:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl are you getting anywhere with that network mapping thing ?
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Apr 04 10:41:11 <deadweasely>	i sent from blockchain.info hot wallet
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Apr 04 10:41:52 <jborkl>	yes, I am - got busy at work - end of the month, but I am almost done
Apr 04 10:42:06 <pigeons>	mircea_popescu: this didnt have to do with tx fees, his tx wasnt relayed at all
Apr 04 10:42:21 <pigeons>	his node must have been cut off
Apr 04 10:42:35 <jborkl>	I ran into this first I think, weeks ago
Apr 04 10:43:04 <jborkl>	I had just upgraded to .81 - the client picked the fee and my deposit went to mp
Apr 04 10:43:17 <pigeons>	oh i see you discussed that, just read wher you said people need to include fees
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Apr 04 10:43:30 <jborkl>	it got stuck for 12 hours- it was showing in other nodes, I had people check
Apr 04 10:43:51 <pigeons>	i'm talking about havelock
Apr 04 10:44:26 <jborkl>	I changed my 3 nodes to mintxfee=0 and restarted them, connected them together and picked different addnodes
Apr 04 10:44:35 <jborkl>	it came unstuck
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Apr 04 10:46:09 <pigeons>	cool
Apr 04 10:46:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 04 10:46:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.00000, Best ask: 135.05073, Bid-ask spread: 0.05073, Last trade: 135.00000, 24 hour volume: 127166.09125785, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 128.08269
Apr 04 10:48:45 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker H HIM
Apr 04 10:48:59 <thestrin1puller>	no assbot?
Apr 04 10:49:06 <kakobrekla>	one sec
Apr 04 10:49:41 <deadweasely>	anyone have a link to a good 'node management' guide/post/etc?
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Apr 04 10:50:05 <MJR_>	yeah, i personally think that we need to stress that runnning a node without mining is still helping support bitcoin
Apr 04 10:50:08 <assbot>	back
Apr 04 10:50:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.33999999 = 0.68 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00333 = 0.666 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.38499 = 1.155 BTC [-]
Apr 04 10:50:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5943 @ 0.00069803 = 4.1484 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00070133 = 6.873 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00070311 = 15.3278 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17457 @ 0.00070861 = 12.3702 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 14 @ 0.009997 = 0.14 BTC [-]
Apr 04 10:50:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.009998 = 0.09 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.009999 = 0.13 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 64 @ 0.01 = 0.64 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1027 BTC [-]
Apr 04 10:50:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1028 = 0.9252 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00474 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00475 = 0.038 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 85 @ 0.00476 = 0.4046 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.00477 = 0.0286 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15669 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1567 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.157 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 18 @ 0.005 = 0.09 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35599999 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:40 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.356 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.356 = 1.068 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [-]
Apr 04 10:50:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.003 BTC [-]
Apr 04 10:50:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.345 = 13.8 BTC [-]
Apr 04 10:50:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 268 @ 0.00333 = 0.8924 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36358 @ 0.00070861 = 25.7636 BTC [+]
Apr 04 10:50:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.003334 = 3.334 BTC [-]
Apr 04 10:51:06 <ThickAsThieves>	heh
Apr 04 10:51:14 <jcpham>	get some
Apr 04 10:51:16 <topace_>	jesus thats a lot of stuff moving
Apr 04 10:51:28 <ColdHardMetal>	I think that's a backlog
Apr 04 10:51:41 <kakobrekla>	yup
Apr 04 10:51:43 <MJR_>	yeah they are pass throughs
Apr 04 10:51:52 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker H HIM
Apr 04 10:51:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D:  / 0 /  (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.96201695 / 2.08000000 (118 shares, 231.51799996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.81201603 / 2.08000000 (717 shares, 1299.21549240 BTC)
Apr 04 10:51:55 <MJR_>	so they aggregate a ton of orders
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Apr 04 10:52:14 <ColdHardMetal>	no, it;s just the bot coming back froma rest.
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Apr 04 10:52:36 <ThickAsThieves>	bitfunder offline
Apr 04 10:52:38 <ThickAsThieves>	thats rare
Apr 04 10:52:51 <ThickAsThieves>	This webpage has a redirect loop
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Apr 04 10:58:17 <kakobrekla>	at least bbet is back up :p
Apr 04 10:59:15 <jcpham>	http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/04/my-bitcoin-mis-adventure.html
Apr 04 10:59:20 <jcpham>	oh god please read it
Apr 04 11:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	ok, i'll read it.
Apr 04 11:01:13 <jcpham>	oh man
Apr 04 11:01:19 <jcpham>	that's a really good one
Apr 04 11:01:38 <jcpham>	"But I press on, because my mercurial editor is emailing me, “When are you filing that bitcoin story!??” every five seconds."
Apr 04 11:02:33 <[\\\]>	awesome read
Apr 04 11:02:43 <[\\\]>	I seriously LOL
Apr 04 11:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	Totally worth the $6.76, if you ask me.
Apr 04 11:02:47 <mircea_popescu>	mkay
Apr 04 11:03:18 <mircea_popescu>	"erotic self-hypnosis" < wtf is that ?
Apr 04 11:03:51 <jcpham>	can't tell if trolling or serious
Apr 04 11:03:58 <jcpham>	think that's what i like the most
Apr 04 11:04:07 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 04 11:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	ya well done in that respek
Apr 04 11:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	that guy should be here, someone invite him
Apr 04 11:04:46 <mircea_popescu>	we need more dub in this chan.
Apr 04 11:06:20 <ColdHardMetal>	hey! he went with the cigar guys. nice.
Apr 04 11:06:31 <ColdHardMetal>	jcpham link guy i mena.
Apr 04 11:06:37 <ColdHardMetal>	mean.
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Apr 04 11:06:58 <jcpham>	he discusses thing to do with bitcoins but makes himself out to be an idiot
Apr 04 11:07:08 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 04 11:07:09 <jcpham>	i like it
Apr 04 11:07:11 <MJR_>	self-effacing
Apr 04 11:07:15 <MJR_>	great tactic
Apr 04 11:07:22 <MJR_>	and he didn't sugarcoat anything
Apr 04 11:07:46 <MJR_>	good point of view of average guy trying to figure this out
Apr 04 11:07:58 <mircea_popescu>	srsly someone drop him a webirc link to here
Apr 04 11:08:08 <ColdHardMetal>	which he did, which is a good sign.
Apr 04 11:08:16 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Apr 04 11:08:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.67978, Best ask: 134.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.82021, Last trade: 134.49900, 24 hour volume: 128583.01835679, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 128.11103
Apr 04 11:08:50 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone's still under the misaprehension that mtgox sucking has anything to do with the dead rally...
Apr 04 11:08:55 <mircea_popescu>	price's stable. mtgox is also stable.
Apr 04 11:09:10 <MJR_>	i thought you put the kibosh on that
Apr 04 11:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	when raly bust people jumped on mtgox, it went to shit like it always does
Apr 04 11:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	ddos mystery solved.
Apr 04 11:09:25 <MJR_>	;)
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Apr 04 11:09:35 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 04 11:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	(which isn't to say they're not being hit, they are, but the two are unrelated)
Apr 04 11:09:53 <MJR_>	they truly were a victim of their own success...they can't tell page views from ddos...
Apr 04 11:10:06 <MJR_>	by that logic facebook is getting "DDOS'd" every day
Apr 04 11:10:08 <mircea_popescu>	no it's just a convenient explanation you know ?
Apr 04 11:10:18 <MJR_>	well yeah
Apr 04 11:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	"we had two issues. one is that we suck, the other is that we got ddosed"
Apr 04 11:10:31 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't make the cut for the mtgox school of pr.
Apr 04 11:10:31 <MJR_>	hahhahas
Apr 04 11:10:48 <MJR_>	funny that they didn't go on bitcointalk to respond
Apr 04 11:10:57 <MJR_>	would have liked to see mpoe-pr get on that
Apr 04 11:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	fucking ridiculous they're scared of her.
Apr 04 11:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	what's she got on them, tits ?
Apr 04 11:12:36 <smickles>	i certainly don't have tits like hers
Apr 04 11:12:42 <smickles>	so i lose, i guess
Apr 04 11:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	well yeah... you're not cool as t-bone
Apr 04 11:13:25 <smickles>	heh, i'm poor, so i loose to t-bone
Apr 04 11:13:46 *	smickles too moony ooos
Apr 04 11:13:56 <mircea_popescu>	you're poor now ?!
Apr 04 11:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	what did you do, follow Bugpowder's investment advice ?
Apr 04 11:14:08 <smickles>	are we talking about the same t-bone?
Apr 04 11:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	tibanne
Apr 04 11:14:38 <smickles>	ah, not at all
Apr 04 11:15:01 <smickles>	oh yeah, you ignored the t-bone i was thinking of
Apr 04 11:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Apr 04 11:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.tibanne.com/ << if anyone missed this.
Apr 04 11:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	Our services
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Apr 04 11:16:34 <smickles>	you missed the link factory and irc net
Apr 04 11:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141458.msg1740085#msg1740085
Apr 04 11:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	what am i telling the girl to tell him ? hm ? HM ?!?!?!?!?!
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Apr 04 11:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	smickles my bad
Apr 04 11:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	luckily with [\\\] on mpex' side we outinovate tibanne, the irc net providers.
Apr 04 11:20:54 <MJR_>	smickles: you meant tiberiusiv right?
Apr 04 11:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	o did you ? totally missed it lol.
Apr 04 11:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	hey, is copumpkin's irl pw:rn actually pebbles ?! what sorcery is this!
Apr 04 11:21:34 <smickles>	MJR_: yup
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Apr 04 11:22:38 <smickles>	i was going to pay off my car loan with bitcoin, but they'll only take usd, so i have to sell the btc first
Apr 04 11:22:47 <smickles>	too bad
Apr 04 11:22:49 <[\\\]>	bitpay!
Apr 04 11:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	i was gonna pay my rent in chocolate
Apr 04 11:23:45 <smickles>	[\\\]: sry, i sold ~20kusd worth at 140
Apr 04 11:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	but the landlady was only taking currency so we just ate the chocolate and then made out.
Apr 04 11:24:12 <[\\\]>	nice
Apr 04 11:24:32 <[\\\]>	http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/04/investing/bitcoin-atms/
Apr 04 11:24:42 <[\\\]>	made the cnn front page
Apr 04 11:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	that shit coming soon since jan
Apr 04 11:25:34 <smickles>	man, yeah
Apr 04 11:26:48 <pgp>	bitcoin ATM just seems awkward to me...
Apr 04 11:27:44 <smickles>	i bet they'd work on college campuses
Apr 04 11:28:02 <jcpham>	i kinda want to convince a collections attorney to accept btc as payment for credit card collections
Apr 04 11:28:07 <jcpham>	seems elegantly backwards
Apr 04 11:28:23 <pgp>	i agree...
Apr 04 11:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol elegantly backwards
Apr 04 11:28:36 <jcpham>	the world really needs that type of irony
Apr 04 11:28:39 <mircea_popescu>	you people are s o anal, you know that ?
Apr 04 11:28:49 <pgp>	call me a luddite, but I just don't get it...
Apr 04 11:28:53 <jcpham>	i love anal
Apr 04 11:28:58 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu, no, thats illegal
Apr 04 11:29:21 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] maybe where you live. over here it's mandatory for underage females.
Apr 04 11:29:24 <jcpham>	what the fuck is this you people shit
Apr 04 11:29:36 <KRS-1>	heh
Apr 04 11:29:55 <jcpham>	con·de·scend
Apr 04 11:29:56 <jcpham>	Verb
Apr 04 11:29:56 <jcpham>	    Show feelings of superiority; patronize.
Apr 04 11:29:56 <jcpham>	    Do something in a haughty way, as though it is below one's dignity or level of importance.
Apr 04 11:30:10 <[\\\]>	superiority complex
Apr 04 11:30:12 <[\\\]>	it happens
Apr 04 11:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i just thought you're legion.
Apr 04 11:30:25 <jcpham>	trolololo
Apr 04 11:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	also note that people does not have a singular. but if you prefer i'll refer to you as "you peopl" in the future.
Apr 04 11:30:44 <jcpham>	i'm pretty sure i've never said "you people"
Apr 04 11:30:52 <jcpham>	too much time spent with mpoe-pr
Apr 04 11:30:57 <[\\\]>	heh
Apr 04 11:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	now that may be.
Apr 04 11:31:04 <[\\\]>	gota jet
Apr 04 11:31:05 <jcpham>	tact.
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Apr 04 11:31:18 <mircea_popescu>	she sucks the tact right out of ya, true.
Apr 04 11:31:24 <MJR_>	the atm finally solves liquidity
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Apr 04 11:31:37 <MJR_>	what do you do at a store that doesn't accept credit cards?
Apr 04 11:31:39 <MJR_>	same shit
Apr 04 11:31:39 <pgp>	c'mon
Apr 04 11:31:49 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ chocolate coins!
Apr 04 11:31:49 <MJR_>	you run across the street to an atm
Apr 04 11:31:51 <MJR_>	get cash
Apr 04 11:32:03 <MJR_>	this is normal and everyday stuff
Apr 04 11:32:21 <pgp>	bitcoin ATM = jump the shark
Apr 04 11:32:34 <MJR_>	huh? i need to be able to spend my money...
Apr 04 11:32:51 <MJR_>	think of bitcoin as a credit card like discover which no one takes
Apr 04 11:33:06 <MJR_>	so i am going to need to get cash at times
Apr 04 11:33:11 <MJR_>	but i don't want to HOLD cash
Apr 04 11:33:17 <MJR_>	i just want to SPEND cash
Apr 04 11:33:47 <MJR_>	this is so obvious and simple of an idea that i can't even see why there would be a debate
Apr 04 11:34:00 <MJR_>	like i'm starting a bank, we don't need atm's?
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Apr 04 11:34:27 <MJR_>	its way more convenient to engage in trading online when i want to get a jameson and hang out
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Apr 04 11:34:39 <MJR_>	i also love the week wait for the cash
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Apr 04 11:34:43 <pgp>	they are going to have the same sorts of problems that coinbase has...
Apr 04 11:34:47 <MJR_>	no
Apr 04 11:34:51 <MJR_>	they won't if they are smart
Apr 04 11:35:00 <MJR_>	theirs goes both ways
Apr 04 11:35:09 <MJR_>	so they can replenish cash
Apr 04 11:35:12 <[\\\]>	right
Apr 04 11:35:13 <MJR_>	without getting more cash
Apr 04 11:35:27 <MJR_>	because you are actually providing a means for me to transfer all my fiat into btc
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Apr 04 11:35:36 <MJR_>	whenever i need to spend, i just withdraw
Apr 04 11:35:43 <MJR_>	whenever i get paid, i just deposit
Apr 04 11:35:52 <MJR_>	simple
Apr 04 11:36:01 <MJR_>	bitcoin will never take over every transaction
Apr 04 11:36:03 <MJR_>	nor should it
Apr 04 11:36:08 <MJR_>	let cash do what its good at
Apr 04 11:36:15 <MJR_>	let bitcoin do what it's good at
Apr 04 11:36:28 <smickles>	get out of here you sensible fuck!
Apr 04 11:36:33 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 04 11:36:39 <MJR_>	smickles: you are the best
Apr 04 11:36:44 <smickles>	;D
Apr 04 11:36:52 <smickles>	I do try from time to time.
Apr 04 11:37:08 <MJR_>	the point is that eventually bitcoin should not be a novelty
Apr 04 11:37:16 <MJR_>	it should just be an everyday fact of life that fades into the background
Apr 04 11:37:24 <[\\\]>	should it?
Apr 04 11:37:36 <MJR_>	yes...did you read the daily beast?
Apr 04 11:37:45 <[\\\]>	I've read a bunch of articles
Apr 04 11:37:48 <MJR_>	no one ever will go through that shit unless they are writing an article
Apr 04 11:37:55 <pgp>	i hear your arguments, but my gut tells me that it probably won't work as smoothly as one would hope and the logistics will be a problem
Apr 04 11:38:00 <[\\\]>	aye
Apr 04 11:38:09 <[\\\]>	just wiat until a government decides it doesn't like it
Apr 04 11:38:09 <MJR_>	...its already been done
Apr 04 11:38:10 <pgp>	what about fees? and conversion rates?
Apr 04 11:38:11 <troc>	it will take 25 years plus for it to fade
Apr 04 11:38:28 <MJR_>	that is just algorithms...atm's are already connected to the network by design
Apr 04 11:38:42 <MJR_>	in fact, mircea_popescu had a great article called "the magic money machine"
Apr 04 11:38:45 <smickles>	3% fee, used the 24h weighted avg
Apr 04 11:38:46 <MJR_>	which basically speaks to this
Apr 04 11:39:15 <MJR_>	yeah, withdrawal get less dollars, deposit get less bitcoins
Apr 04 11:39:20 <smickles>	if you really want to get fancy, use 3% minimum, and raise it based on the latest standard deviation
Apr 04 11:39:21 <MJR_>	but unparralleled convenience
Apr 04 11:39:37 <pgp>	a bitcoin ATM assumes that there is a market for people who want to constantly transact between fiat and bitcoin - those people will be sensitive to the exchange rate and fees
Apr 04 11:40:20 <MJR_>	this is my ultimate long term vision of the system of the world...atm's everywhere that run mining nodes in a pool, they connect to an exchange and automatically buy and sell based on the demand...once it scales up, you will have a HUGE stabilizing influence
Apr 04 11:40:32 <smickles>	i think the atm is for Convenience
Apr 04 11:40:36 <MJR_>	exactly
Apr 04 11:40:42 <MJR_>	i want to buy a burger
Apr 04 11:40:48 <MJR_>	i'm not withdrawing my life savings
Apr 04 11:40:55 <MJR_>	but i need to get $20 out of a hot wallet
Apr 04 11:41:00 <ThickAsThieves>	atm is also for people who somehow think itll be easier to buy bitcoin there than on the interweb
Apr 04 11:41:01 <MJR_>	without doing ACH transfer
Apr 04 11:41:08 <pgp>	cart before the horse...
Apr 04 11:41:11 <MJR_>	well...that makes it super easy
Apr 04 11:41:26 <MJR_>	if a lot of people want to BUY bitcoins...i can buy them on the exchanges automatically
Apr 04 11:41:27 <MJR_>	and sell them
Apr 04 11:41:34 <MJR_>	while they refill my atm's for me
Apr 04 11:41:52 <MJR_>	look, no bank ever said "hey, let's get ONE ATM...that should be enough"
Apr 04 11:41:53 <pgp>	so long as gox is at the center of it - it will be a costly investment for first round funding guys...
Apr 04 11:42:02 <MJR_>	gox won't be
Apr 04 11:42:06 <MJR_>	of course
Apr 04 11:42:09 <MJR_>	with that kind of liquidity
Apr 04 11:42:15 <MJR_>	you will surpass gox
Apr 04 11:42:34 <smickles>	a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 04 11:42:42 <MJR_>	403,000 ATMs in the US
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Apr 04 11:42:48 <MJR_>	exactly
Apr 04 11:42:51 <MJR_>	it is convenient
Apr 04 11:42:58 <MJR_>	people pay 4% currently for bitinstant
Apr 04 11:43:06 <MJR_>	cheaper, easier and faster
Apr 04 11:43:35 <MJR_>	and most people won't be cashing out their whole savings...they want spending money and to let their wealth remain in bitcoins
Apr 04 11:43:40 <pgp>	but people who use bitinstant are repeat users in/out...  they'd go broke...
Apr 04 11:43:47 <pgp>	aren't, rather
Apr 04 11:43:56 <MJR_>	well...you set the fees where it makes sense
Apr 04 11:44:04 <MJR_>	at the end of the day...how do banks do it now
Apr 04 11:44:11 <MJR_>	its obviously possible to run an atm network
Apr 04 11:44:14 <MJR_>	its been done
Apr 04 11:44:23 <MJR_>	if bitcoin can't handle something that basic and mundane
Apr 04 11:44:47 <pgp>	they're asking to be regulated...
Apr 04 11:44:47 <MJR_>	the thing i'm talking about is the most basic of banking needs
Apr 04 11:44:52 <MJR_>	deposit withdrawal
Apr 04 11:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35579999 BTC [+]
Apr 04 11:45:04 <MJR_>	in fact...you could even set it up as an ewallet service if you would rather go that way
Apr 04 11:45:11 <MJR_>	and have accounts with fiat and btc etc
Apr 04 11:45:24 <MJR_>	but you can accept cash with no friction besides being close to an atm
Apr 04 11:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.356 = 1.424 BTC [+]
Apr 04 11:46:06 <pgp>	most people have brokerage accounts - why can't you access those directly through an ATM?
Apr 04 11:46:19 <MJR_>	THAT is the point
Apr 04 11:46:20 <pgp>	no demand
Apr 04 11:46:30 <MJR_>	as long as bitcoin is a speculative asset
Apr 04 11:46:34 <MJR_>	it won't win
Apr 04 11:46:42 <MJR_>	when it becomes a currency, it wins easiliy
Apr 04 11:46:44 <pgp>	etrade tried it - no demand
Apr 04 11:46:50 <MJR_>	most people don't want to trade
Apr 04 11:46:58 <MJR_>	they just want honest money, available when they want
Apr 04 11:47:11 <MJR_>	if it holds its value and they can have it on demand, they are happy
Apr 04 11:47:13 <pgp>	people are used to managed the fiat equivalent of cold and hot wallets
Apr 04 11:47:15 <troc>	In effect the ATMs are just there to beat the x*10 min confirmations no ? is there no better way of doing that ?
Apr 04 11:47:35 <MJR_>	that is the point, you don't need to see btc as an INVESTMENT
Apr 04 11:47:39 <pgp>	if the need cash, they keep money in there checking account linked to a card..
Apr 04 11:47:45 <MJR_>	most people who spend money don't think of it as a forex transaction
Apr 04 11:47:52 <pgp>	otherwise they keep it elsewhere
Apr 04 11:48:00 <MJR_>	yes, but what about people who don't want to keep their money in USD
Apr 04 11:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.35799996 BTC [+]
Apr 04 11:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.35799996 = 0.716 BTC [+]
Apr 04 11:48:11 <MJR_>	you unlock gresham's law through this method
Apr 04 11:48:22 <topace_>	no sdice dividend announcement yet ?
Apr 04 11:48:23 <MJR_>	i only have to spend the "bad" currency when i really need to
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Apr 04 11:48:35 <MJR_>	otherwise i have only "good" currency
Apr 04 11:48:59 <MJR_>	the point is that as long as btc is only good for finance people, you won't get mainstream adoption
Apr 04 11:49:03 <pgp>	look - I'm not saying that that sort of convenience is bad...
Apr 04 11:49:12 <pgp>	I just question the timing and business model
Apr 04 11:49:21 <MJR_>	i never gave a time frame...
Apr 04 11:49:32 <MJR_>	i just said that giving people easy access to their cash is necessary
Apr 04 11:49:38 <MJR_>	what is the problem with gox?
Apr 04 11:49:42 <MJR_>	lag on setting up account
Apr 04 11:49:46 <MJR_>	lag on withdrawing money
Apr 04 11:49:51 <MJR_>	lag on executing trades
Apr 04 11:49:53 <MJR_>	or in other words
Apr 04 11:49:56 <MJR_>	inconvenience
Apr 04 11:49:59 <pgp>	in the future, there will be no cash
Apr 04 11:50:07 <MJR_>	if you are curious about the market...check out localbitcoins
Apr 04 11:50:10 <troc>	surely a better way to access a local currency would be something like mpesa no ?
Apr 04 11:50:16 <MJR_>	see what they go for in a more convenient environment
Apr 04 11:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4449 BTC [+]
Apr 04 11:51:33 <MJR_>	anywhere from $145-191
Apr 04 11:51:45 <MJR_>	thats why bitfloor has higher prices
Apr 04 11:51:52 <MJR_>	etc etc etc
Apr 04 11:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.445 BTC [+]
Apr 04 11:52:06 <pgp>	I just don't see it being a profitable venture for these guys - that's all...
Apr 04 11:52:12 <MJR_>	i suppose
Apr 04 11:52:17 <MJR_>	i don't see how they can lose money
Apr 04 11:52:23 <MJR_>	besides being idiots
Apr 04 11:52:31 <MJR_>	barring theft, they cannot lose money
Apr 04 11:52:38 <pgp>	massive up front costs
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Apr 04 11:52:51 <MJR_>	you are charging more to buy and giving less out to sell...it is automatically buy low sell high
Apr 04 11:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.445 BTC [+]
Apr 04 11:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.445 = 22.25 BTC [+]
Apr 04 11:53:09 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 04 11:53:10 <MJR_>	true
Apr 04 11:53:16 <MJR_>	but bitcoin millionaires don't mind
Apr 04 11:53:56 <MJR_>	they way it SHOULD progress is like this...you convince a local shop to accept bitcoins and put your atm inside their shop
Apr 04 11:53:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 15 @ 0.0028 = 0.042 BTC [-]
Apr 04 11:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.449 = 1.347 BTC [+]
Apr 04 11:54:05 <MJR_>	that is your omaha beach
Apr 04 11:54:10 <MJR_>	for the city in question
Apr 04 11:54:26 <MJR_>	you try to draw all enthusiasts to this shop and try to get other local businesses in this neighborhood to accept it
Apr 04 11:54:34 <MJR_>	i'm looking at williamsburg
Apr 04 11:54:47 <MJR_>	you create enough local economy to create critical mass
Apr 04 11:54:58 <MJR_>	eventually maybe a few landlords accept rent in btc
Apr 04 11:55:03 <MJR_>	a grocery store
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Apr 04 11:55:16 <MJR_>	and you form an "ethnic" enclave
Apr 04 11:55:27 <MJR_>	like chinatown or koreatown or little italy etc
Apr 04 11:55:41 <MJR_>	'cept its a "economic" enclave
Apr 04 11:56:27 <MJR_>	this is how immigrants do it, and have done it for hundreds of years, and its how they survive and make it in a foreign land
Apr 04 11:56:35 <MJR_>	stick together
Apr 04 11:56:52 <MJR_>	common culture, and community trust
Apr 04 11:57:03 <pgp>	obviously, I believe in bitcoin...  I just don't see that happening anytime soon...  in 10 years...
Apr 04 11:57:17 <MJR_>	maybe...you'd be surprised how quickly hipsters can adopt new things
Apr 04 11:57:23 <MJR_>	you wanna go to lunch by the way?
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Apr 04 11:57:38 <pgp>	bitcoin's principal utility is in the NON-local transfer of money
Apr 04 11:57:52 <MJR_>	hmmm...strong point
Apr 04 11:57:57 <pgp>	wish i could
Apr 04 11:57:59 <MJR_>	but i think it's in its store of value
Apr 04 11:58:16 <MJR_>	BoJ just decided to double its bond buyback rate...
Apr 04 11:58:34 <MJR_>	and the genesis block did not contain a message saying "money hard to move to other countries"
Apr 04 11:58:50 <pgp>	fine...  store of value...  there is no demand for ATM access to your investments...
Apr 04 11:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13770 @ 0.00071031 = 9.781 BTC [+]
Apr 04 11:59:10 <MJR_>	but if i could have all my wealth in my "investments"...and only liquidate when i had to
Apr 04 11:59:17 <MJR_>	literally at the point of sale
Apr 04 11:59:22 <MJR_>	it is preferable
Apr 04 11:59:39 <pgp>	if people wanted that, we would have that already
Apr 04 11:59:55 <MJR_>	if people wanted bitcoin we would have had it already...glad satoshi didn't think that
Apr 04 12:00:15 <MJR_>	there will be surprises and there will be many things that change
Apr 04 12:00:27 <MJR_>	ipad is anohter good example, et al
Apr 04 12:00:58 <MJR_>	i'm just saying...access to your money is important
Apr 04 12:01:10 <pgp>	not every problem has a bitcoin solution
Apr 04 12:01:22 <MJR_>	i totally agree
Apr 04 12:01:35 <MJR_>	which is why i need a way to move my wealth from bitcoin to cash immediately and at will
Apr 04 12:01:44 <MJR_>	and then move it back again
Apr 04 12:01:49 <MJR_>	this volatility won't be foreveer
Apr 04 12:02:00 <MJR_>	you say ten years...i say 3
Apr 04 12:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	topace  not that i've seen.
Apr 04 12:02:08 <MJR_>	just a difference in pace at the end of the day
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Apr 04 12:02:43 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: how do these atm's relate to your "magic money machines"?
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Apr 04 12:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	i think i was saying they're basically the reverse
Apr 04 12:03:24 <bgupta>	Business as usual and the world moves on http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2013/04/04/bitcoin-exchange-bombarded-by-another-massive-cyber-attack/
Apr 04 12:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	not quite sure why people would do it backwards
Apr 04 12:03:30 <MJR_>	explain?
Apr 04 12:03:41 <MJR_>	since the transactions are both ways how is it the reverse?
Apr 04 12:03:46 <mircea_popescu>	well, they want to make bitcoin vending machines ?
Apr 04 12:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	or i confuse two projects ?
Apr 04 12:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	a ?
Apr 04 12:03:59 <MJR_>	no...they can dispense cash OR bitcoins
Apr 04 12:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.445 BTC [-]
Apr 04 12:04:04 <MJR_>	and accept cash or bitcoins
Apr 04 12:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	well then... exactly it :D
Apr 04 12:04:14 <MJR_>	thanks :)
Apr 04 12:04:23 <MJR_>	if they execute (a HUGE if) it would be great
Apr 04 12:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Apr 04 12:04:32 <MJR_>	and pgp is right
Apr 04 12:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt they will really execute it,
Apr 04 12:04:49 <mircea_popescu>	as running the cash ops is the most expensive part of retail banking
Apr 04 12:04:53 <MJR_>	in the fact that again, the real world has a way of messing software guys plans up
Apr 04 12:05:00 <MJR_>	yes...
Apr 04 12:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	and they absolutely can't afford the human resources let alone the capital goods
Apr 04 12:05:02 <mircea_popescu>	but hey...
Apr 04 12:05:05 <pgp>	yes!
Apr 04 12:05:08 <mircea_popescu>	kids wanna try the impossible, let them.
Apr 04 12:05:12 <MJR_>	hahaha
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Apr 04 12:05:17 <MJR_>	you start small
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Apr 04 12:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	no, you don't.
Apr 04 12:05:29 <mircea_popescu>	if you want to get laid you don't start with a shrimp
Apr 04 12:05:36 <MJR_>	and i think the scarcity of bitoin right now means you will get more cash put in than taken out
Apr 04 12:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	it's a problem either way
Apr 04 12:05:51 <MJR_>	i mean PoC one atm somewhere by your own house
Apr 04 12:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	and an armored truck costs as much as an oil tanker, 20k a day
Apr 04 12:06:34 <MJR_>	they don't send armored trucks for all of them...i mean the small atms...the kind you find in a deli not affiliated with a bank
Apr 04 12:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	are they really executing or sorta executing ?
Apr 04 12:06:48 <pgp>	idea is TOO EARLY...
Apr 04 12:07:05 <mircea_popescu>	send a little armored roboaspirator guy
Apr 04 12:07:06 <pgp>	but we'll be able to learn from their mistakes...
Apr 04 12:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	start small.
Apr 04 12:07:24 <MJR_>	http://www.atmnetwork.net/store/#ecwid:category=1438203&mode=product&product=21968297
Apr 04 12:07:27 <MJR_>	like that
Apr 04 12:07:51 <MJR_>	they don't have armored trucks coming for that...and of course i'd limit it to $20 bills only...in and out
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Apr 04 12:08:24 <MJR_>	not that it counts a lot...but they were interviewed on cnbc, they have preorders in 30 countries already
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Apr 04 12:08:36 <MJR_>	and have the prototype
Apr 04 12:08:53 <MJR_>	so whether THEY succeed or fail does not speak to whether the idea succeeds or fails IMO
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Apr 04 12:10:18 <MJR_>	https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJeff_Berwick&ei=36VdUaL4Cuuo0AHlxICIDA&usg=AFQjCNEW4ScEXrdgn7x9fyMdLbP3WQp5bg&sig2=9IihRHrzALlXc_8Y4Ukstw
Apr 04 12:11:17 <pgp>	if gox got a banking license, they could issue debit cards that could be used at every atm in the world - that you be a problem for bitcoin ATM
Apr 04 12:11:30 <MJR_>	https://bitcoinatm.com/
Apr 04 12:11:38 <MJR_>	there is his site if you want to look yourself
Apr 04 12:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	pgp it would have been the logical step for them.
Apr 04 12:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	it is beyond the pale that they did not do so.
Apr 04 12:12:01 <pgp>	i believe there is already a bank in france that lets people maintain BTC balances...  yes?
Apr 04 12:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	i had originally thought there's under the table conventions preventing such a thing, even if not visible above board
Apr 04 12:12:13 <MJR_>	if they can manage to stem the flow of p0eople sick of doing business there...build a decent matching engine...then they can hope to develop atm technology lol
Apr 04 12:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	but once the frenchies did get it... it's clearly just op incompetence.
Apr 04 12:13:29 <MJR_>	yah, i think he is trying to set up the first two atm's within the next two weeks..so we'll see
Apr 04 12:14:10 <MJR_>	at the end of the day, if you can't even handle data...please for the love of god don't try and tackle hardware or supply chain management (looking at you BFL)
Apr 04 12:15:04 <deadweasely>	do the atms go both ways?  cash for btc and btc for cash?
Apr 04 12:15:11 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 04 12:15:12 <MJR_>	they do
Apr 04 12:15:14 <pgp>	if your a bank, you don't need to develop ATM technology
Apr 04 12:15:19 <MJR_>	i'm going to lunch with darren pgp
Apr 04 12:15:23 <pgp>	you use the existing network
Apr 04 12:15:33 <MJR_>	also...last point, if it existed i would be using it today
Apr 04 12:15:38 <MJR_>	so they'd have one customer
Apr 04 12:15:53 <pgp>	mjr - wish I could join - have work to do :-(
Apr 04 12:17:43 <mircea_popescu>	i think there's a bitbet on it anyway
Apr 04 12:17:58 <asciilifeform>	consider a hardware widget that receives a single-use CC number (for $X) from a hypothetical BTC-enabled bank and writes it to a blank physical ATM card, when you send the bank $X equiv. of BTC.
Apr 04 12:18:07 <asciilifeform>	then you can withdraw cash from normal ATMs.
Apr 04 12:18:29 <asciilifeform>	let some other loser handle the ATMs, drive the armored trucks, etc.
Apr 04 12:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform this will never fly.
Apr 04 12:18:59 <asciilifeform>	not in the USSA certainly. but maybe in France...
Apr 04 12:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	not even
Apr 04 12:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	you'll get shot down, specifically for the "other loser" reason
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Apr 04 12:19:49 <asciilifeform>	what does it take to get valid single-use CC #s, though? Can you do it from the Seychelles or the like?
Apr 04 12:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	not even in russia will you be able to suck the value out of their infrastructure quite so brazenly
Apr 04 12:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	you can do it until they figure out what you're doing it for.
Apr 04 12:20:07 <asciilifeform>	but I agree, anyone who tries will "have problems" rather quickly.
Apr 04 12:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	btw, thanks for your microscope.
Apr 04 12:20:54 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: thank Alex Tolstoy, not me.
Apr 04 12:21:30 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: what made you remember it now?
Apr 04 12:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	what do i care where you stole it from
Apr 04 12:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	i stole it from you
Apr 04 12:21:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/people-bitcoin-is-not-worth-100-dollars-per-stop-buying/
Apr 04 12:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	bah wrong link. i meant http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/its-been-an-epic-few-days-what-happened/
Apr 04 12:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	you're in there.
Apr 04 12:23:47 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: ok I see
Apr 04 12:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4492 = 0.8984 BTC [+]
Apr 04 12:24:35 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 04 12:24:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.40000, Best ask: 133.86743, Bid-ask spread: 0.46743, Last trade: 133.86744, 24 hour volume: 124844.76506536, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.81081
Apr 04 12:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	"can we use the coffee fund to buy other stuff ?" "like what" "ummm like say beer" "no. coffee fund is for coffe funding.". net result ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166794.msg1740750#msg1740750
Apr 04 12:26:30 <asciilifeform>	another variation on the CC idea: use #s lifted from perfectly genuine "cash cards," of the kind sold in virtually every country.
Apr 04 12:26:47 <mircea_popescu>	are you trying to cause a bitcoin-related successful prosecution ?
Apr 04 12:27:42 <asciilifeform>	the BTC prosecutions (and firing squads, eventually) will come whether we like it or not.
Apr 04 12:28:04 <mircea_popescu>	no they won't, get out.
Apr 04 12:28:10 <asciilifeform>	IANAL, but I'm not even sure this would be illegal under (current) American law.
Apr 04 12:29:09 <asciilifeform>	although the U.S. authorities are in the process of decreeing that cash card balances must be declared at customs checkpoints.
Apr 04 12:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	listen, keeping piss in milk containers in your fridge may not be specifically against the rules of your lease
Apr 04 12:30:08 <mircea_popescu>	but after a few neighbougrs accidentally drink some you will get evicted.
Apr 04 12:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	just shitty non-scalable sorts of things to do.
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Apr 04 12:31:10 <[\\\]>	that's why you label the milk containers piss
Apr 04 12:31:18 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: fair enough. If you screw with the "cattle infrastructure" you will Have Problems, whether it breaks any formal law or not.
Apr 04 12:31:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+]
Apr 04 12:31:47 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I was arguing from the "may as well hang for a sheep as a lamb" angle.
Apr 04 12:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	ya but it's not what's going on here.
Apr 04 12:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	nobody's hanging you.
Apr 04 12:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	so far the govt is a coughar in your little corner bar drooling all over you.
Apr 04 12:32:27 <mircea_popescu>	she ain't strangling anything.
Apr 04 12:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	much.
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Apr 04 12:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4492 = 1.7968 BTC [+]
Apr 04 12:35:38 <asciilifeform>	I know this is a hard sell, but it seems to me that things like Silk Road are steps in the right direction. Right now, most BTC users are law-abiding wimps who will give up if their gov. so much as sneezes at them. But if you can get organized crime to actually rely on BTC in a serious way, it will be invincible.
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Apr 04 12:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	what the hell. law abiding isn't being a whimp, in the vast, overwhelmingly majority of cases.
Apr 04 12:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	what, drive on the other side of the road just to be different ?
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Apr 04 12:36:26 <asciilifeform>	ok, strike that. "decree-abiding"
Apr 04 12:36:45 <mircea_popescu>	but see, the way to efficiently fight absurd regulation is by keeping the obnoxious shit to a minimum.
Apr 04 12:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	if you're not the weird guy with piss in your fridge you have a much better shot at getting gays accepted in the condo.
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Apr 04 12:37:04 <asciilifeform>	right now, if the legit commerce in BTC gets decreed out of existence, the currency will be on very shaky legs indeed
Apr 04 12:37:28 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, right, becauyse a whole 50 dollars in reddit tips and another 100 bux in coffe is going away.
Apr 04 12:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	derp.
Apr 04 12:38:06 <asciilifeform>	forget about reddit coffee, what about mtgox? what would a sudden desaparecido of gox be like?
Apr 04 12:38:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00333 = 3.33 BTC [+]
Apr 04 12:38:20 <mircea_popescu>	what'd happen if california fell into the ocean ?
Apr 04 12:38:37 <mircea_popescu>	the us minus a buncha freaks would still be fighting in afghanistan right ?
Apr 04 12:39:55 <asciilifeform>	correct me if I'm wrong, but most people who pump fiat into BTC are hoping to use gox in particular at some point to pump it back out
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Apr 04 12:40:31 <mircea_popescu>	btc is people moving 10k btc over a nod and a handshake, not 10k noobs putting in 50 bux they "earned online" to "get in on the ground floor" on this "new thing"
Apr 04 12:41:14 <KRS-1>	or currency imo because i dont think the design can handle transactions required of a common currency
Apr 04 12:41:43 <asciilifeform>	my impression is that the idiot noobs are playing the role of the "stupid money" at online poker tables - keeping the system adequately "pressurized" for real commerce
Apr 04 12:42:10 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt this is the case. the uberpressure comes from store of value applications.
Apr 04 12:42:36 <mircea_popescu>	but incidentally, you probably should package and publish this convo, it's too good to go to ircwaste.
Apr 04 12:43:01 <asciilifeform>	and virtually nobody appears to be the least bit interested in my (or anyone else's) ideas for cutting the fiat world out of the loop (I suggested product delivery via dead drops, flying machines, other crackpot nuttery)
Apr 04 12:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	cause you're even too soon-er than the atm stuff.
Apr 04 12:44:16 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: you can repackage and post this if you like, the readers of my little computer architecture blog are probably tired of the BTC ramblings...
Apr 04 12:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	so start a btc blog, you're clearly more interested in this than that.
Apr 04 12:45:17 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I'm more of an amateur mathematics crackpot than a serious BTC enthusiast. I have ~3 BTC...
Apr 04 12:45:20 <benkay>	asciilifeform where do you blog?
Apr 04 12:45:31 <asciilifeform>	benkay: http://www.loper-os.org/
Apr 04 12:45:37 <mircea_popescu>	you know that's entirely besides the point
Apr 04 12:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	and when did content creators start caring about readers, what the fuck is this, soviet russia ?
Apr 04 12:46:10 <deadweasely>	is it possible or advisable to run a node on ec2?
Apr 04 12:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel certainly possible.
Apr 04 12:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	bw isn't huge either.
Apr 04 12:46:37 <asciilifeform>	deadweasely: just don't try to mine there
Apr 04 12:46:48 <deadweasely>	no, i won't
Apr 04 12:47:03 <asciilifeform>	deadweasely: although if the price does up 100 fold (but the difficulty somehow remains similar to today's) it will be cash-positive.
Apr 04 12:47:05 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaa wait. how much of that ~3 you made on mpex ?
Apr 04 12:47:29 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: you gave me 1.0, which turned into 1.4. As described in my review of the service.
Apr 04 12:47:37 <mircea_popescu>	this kicks ass.
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Apr 04 12:47:47 <bitesak>	i would like to do something like that and have my node online. that wouldn't even cost much at all right?
Apr 04 12:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	bitesak nothing huge no.
Apr 04 12:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	a beer sorta thing
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Apr 04 12:48:44 <asciilifeform>	bitesak: ec2 has an ebay-like bid system where, if used, your instance only runs when CPU time is available at or below your max bid.
Apr 04 12:49:03 <deadweasely>	and it's lame as hell, don't use it
Apr 04 12:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	prolly not so grand for nodes tho
Apr 04 12:49:06 <deadweasely>	you'll pay more
Apr 04 12:49:15 <Rick___>	Mircea_popescu is here?
Apr 04 12:49:18 <mircea_popescu>	ya ebay system exists to get more bux
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Apr 04 12:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	hi Rick___
Apr 04 12:49:24 <Rick___>	Hi
Apr 04 12:49:29 <Rick___>	need help
Apr 04 12:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Apr 04 12:49:33 <deadweasely>	i started an instance, never even logged in and they stuck me with $15.01 bill this mo.
Apr 04 12:49:34 <Rick___>	on of my client
Apr 04 12:49:39 <bitesak>	would it be better/easier to run a node on a Raspberry Pi?
Apr 04 12:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	bitesak i don't think pi can cope
Apr 04 12:49:52 <Rick___>	one of my client just send you guys his key
Apr 04 12:50:51 <deadweasely>	bitesak: i'd love to, no time, rather use ec2 free instances.
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Apr 04 12:50:58 <deadweasely>	run .71  .81
Apr 04 12:53:08 <thestrin1puller>	mircea_popescu: you always seem to cheer me up
Apr 04 12:53:16 <mircea_popescu>	hallo.
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Apr 04 12:54:11 <bitesak>	asciilifeform, can you post link for the 'review of service'?
Apr 04 12:55:35 <asciilifeform>	bitesak: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108 ("A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange.")
Apr 04 12:55:43 <jcpham>	new idea: double the price
Apr 04 12:56:02 <jcpham>	cut the hashrate by %60 because
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Apr 04 12:59:10 <jcpham>	nice
Apr 04 12:59:14 <jcpham>	mpex review
Apr 04 12:59:37 <Bugpowder>	i remember that review
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Apr 04 12:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	anyone here uses a mac to talk to mpex ?
Apr 04 13:00:34 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I did (along with a linux box.) GPG works equally well on any reasonable *nix machine.
Apr 04 13:00:47 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu did you tell this guy what to write
Apr 04 13:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform does this gpgtools thing work somehow ?
Apr 04 13:00:58 <mircea_popescu>	Rick___ has trouble with the syntax or something
Apr 04 13:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i never tell people what to write
Apr 04 13:01:23 <jcpham>	are you suuuuuure he isn't reading from a script you manipulator, you
Apr 04 13:01:30 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: yes, that plus https://github.com/Azelphur/pyMPEx (as linked from your manual, actually)
Apr 04 13:01:31 <mircea_popescu>	not more than you are.
Apr 04 13:01:35 <jcpham>	damn
Apr 04 13:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny tho, there you go asciilifeform, you're now empuppeted.
Apr 04 13:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	an entire life dedicated to hanging as a sheep pregnant with twin lambs
Apr 04 13:02:18 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: considering what I concluded in that piece, this is hilariously funny
Apr 04 13:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	and all for naught.
Apr 04 13:02:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00071356 = 10.418 BTC [+]
Apr 04 13:03:39 <jcpham>	oh man these new BFL prices are great
Apr 04 13:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	with fans or without fans ?
Apr 04 13:04:05 <jcpham>	"gee, you want 60GH/s, here have 25GH/s instead for more money"
Apr 04 13:04:13 <mircea_popescu>	avalon did it...
Apr 04 13:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	southpark did it too.
Apr 04 13:04:24 <jcpham>	minirigs are out of stock too
Apr 04 13:04:28 <jcpham>	in case you wanted one
Apr 04 13:04:50 <jcpham>	pham> are you suuuuuure he isn't reading from a script you manipulator, you
Apr 04 13:04:53 <[\\\]>	http://www.butterflylabs.com/faq/
Apr 04 13:04:54 <jcpham>	wtf
Apr 04 13:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	far as i'm concerned the laugh of the year is that after demonstrating a box of fans at that convention, bfl "delivered" to their shill "cumstomer" a board which cools passively.
Apr 04 13:04:57 <[\\\]>	still lists october ship date
Apr 04 13:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	this is so far out there...
Apr 04 13:05:00 <jcpham>	did my paste just do
Apr 04 13:06:03 <jcpham>	I guess they cannot fix the power regulator thing
Apr 04 13:06:52 <asciilifeform>	why is nobody talking about how Avalon shipped HardCopy FPGAs instead of real ASICs?
Apr 04 13:07:03 <deadweasely>	???
Apr 04 13:07:14 <mircea_popescu>	is this the clock buffers jet injector ?
Apr 04 13:07:21 <asciilifeform>	deadweasely: it explains the power consumption
Apr 04 13:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform because lazy bums such as yourself haven't taken one apart to prove this.
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Apr 04 13:07:36 <deadweasely>	lol  ^
Apr 04 13:07:51 <deadweasely>	nobody dare void their warranty
Apr 04 13:07:54 <deadweasely>	:)
Apr 04 13:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	except lmao
Apr 04 13:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	you troll you
Apr 04 13:08:08 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: mail me one and I'll happily vivisect it and post the result
Apr 04 13:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	yes. except i only order shit i pay for after it's delivered.
Apr 04 13:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	from strippers to bagels.
Apr 04 13:08:36 <asciilifeform>	but the watt/hash/hr figure is a smoking gun by itself
Apr 04 13:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	depends how stupid they are.
Apr 04 13:08:52 <mircea_popescu>	i can make you an asic that uses up 500W per chip
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Apr 04 13:09:14 <asciilifeform>	well yes, and I can wire a resistor from my garbage can across the power terminals and use 500W
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Apr 04 13:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
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Apr 04 13:09:47 <asciilifeform>	but the fact is, a real asic has a 7 figure (USD) tooling cost and hardcopy FPGAs have 4 figure tooling cost.
Apr 04 13:10:03 <mircea_popescu>	you obviously don't own enough bitcoins.
Apr 04 13:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	your thought process is suspiciously normal.
Apr 04 13:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	looking to get banned or something ?
Apr 04 13:10:51 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I tend to think in the currency I buy food with. Is this really so odd?
Apr 04 13:11:01 <gwillen>	I don't think anybody is shocked if Avalon is a HardCopy
Apr 04 13:11:06 <gwillen>	HardCopy is still an ASIC
Apr 04 13:11:09 <gwillen>	it's just a shitty ASIC
Apr 04 13:11:16 <gwillen>	which is why they got to market before BFL did :-P
Apr 04 13:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform anyway, there was a huge-ish bet on avalon delivering.
Apr 04 13:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	someone could have bet no, taken one apart, proven it and maybe won ~200 btc
Apr 04 13:11:44 <mircea_popescu>	nobody did so it doesn't really matter imo.
Apr 04 13:11:58 <deadweasely>	ii wondered that when they offered buybacks...
Apr 04 13:11:59 <asciilifeform>	gwillen: it is an ASIC only in the sense that it isn't field-programmable. But most of the actual circuitry is identical to that of an FPGA
Apr 04 13:12:10 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform well... most bitcoiners buy food in stamps.
Apr 04 13:12:10 <gwillen>	asciilifeform: yes, it's called "structured ASIC"
Apr 04 13:12:21 <gwillen>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structured_ASIC_platform
Apr 04 13:12:27 <gwillen>	it's higher performance and cheaper than FPGA
Apr 04 13:12:37 <asciilifeform>	gwillen: the marketdroids can call a turd a sausage and eat with relish. but we don't have to
Apr 04 13:12:39 <gwillen>	but lower performance than full ASIC
Apr 04 13:12:42 *	gwillen shrug
Apr 04 13:13:03 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. some chick that's banging jeff bezos must get him to make a proper asic run.
Apr 04 13:13:35 <deadweasely>	send him female gift!
Apr 04 13:13:43 <mircea_popescu>	amazon comes out with elastic mining instances.
Apr 04 13:13:50 <deadweasely>	from her womb explodes an asic!
Apr 04 13:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 13:14:28 <mircea_popescu>	i got nobody in washington
Apr 04 13:14:32 <deadweasely>	dang
Apr 04 13:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	fucking dead end, nothing but geeks, no girls want to be there.
Apr 04 13:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 13:15:57 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: washington dc? why?
Apr 04 13:16:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00071031 = 7.7779 BTC [-]
Apr 04 13:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	washington state.
Apr 04 13:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	o fuck me ? has it occured ?
Apr 04 13:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 04 13:16:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.10001, Best ask: 132.99693, Bid-ask spread: 1.89692, Last trade: 131.10001, 24 hour volume: 125348.75480664, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.72686
Apr 04 13:16:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+]
Apr 04 13:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 710310 * 131.10001
Apr 04 13:16:55 <gribble>	93121648.1031
Apr 04 13:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	gah
Apr 04 13:17:04 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker h havelock
Apr 04 13:17:07 <assbot>	You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
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Apr 04 13:17:27 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker h him
Apr 04 13:17:28 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D:  / 0 /  (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.96201695 / 2.08000000 (118 shares, 231.51799996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.81224245 / 2.08000000 (716 shares, 1297.56559240 BTC)
Apr 04 13:17:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00333 = 3.33 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 13:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25522 @ 0.00071031 = 18.1285 BTC [-]
Apr 04 13:22:55 <deadweasely>	mircea_popescu: total armchair criticism here....   does bitbet have too many bets and not enough advertising (not paid necessarily, but maybe new bets are posted in bitcointalk bitbet thread?  just talking out my ass here.  i like bitbet, big potential there.
Apr 04 13:23:11 <mircea_popescu>	well i dunno.
Apr 04 13:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	the good thing is that people can advertise it to their benefit
Apr 04 13:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	feb saw like 3 bux worth of ref fees paid
Apr 04 13:23:31 <deadweasely>	you know i do.
Apr 04 13:23:34 <mircea_popescu>	march was 100
Apr 04 13:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine it will explode once more people figure it out
Apr 04 13:24:06 <mircea_popescu>	i know you do what ?
Apr 04 13:24:15 <deadweasely>	should you have bitbet thread posting the new bets so people see them on recent posts on the forum?
Apr 04 13:24:26 <deadweasely>	i use the ref link in my sig....
Apr 04 13:24:40 <mircea_popescu>	a ok.
Apr 04 13:24:44 <deadweasely>	you paid me $30 in refs already this mo.
Apr 04 13:24:46 <deadweasely>	:)
Apr 04 13:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	i don't read the forum.
Apr 04 13:24:47 <deadweasely>	thx
Apr 04 13:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	yw but i had no ideal ol
Apr 04 13:25:10 <deadweasely>	i try not to, but i want to spam my ref links now, so i reply to newbs and help them out.
Apr 04 13:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	prolly will end up having to hiore some ex pron aff manager
Apr 04 13:25:22 <deadweasely>	and they see my sig
Apr 04 13:26:01 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool.
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Apr 04 13:27:08 <deadweasely>	well, i'm down to whoring for btc since i can't actually buy in anymore on the borked exchanges
Apr 04 13:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
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Apr 04 13:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bQh-erEeI0
Apr 04 13:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	pretty funny
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Apr 04 13:29:51 <jborkl>	mmircea-popescu - you waiting for it to go over $100 million?
Apr 04 13:29:58 <jborkl>	micrea-popescu
Apr 04 13:29:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1722 = 0.3444 BTC [-]
Apr 04 13:30:10 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl i already claimed 1st to 50mn, angling for 100 now
Apr 04 13:30:14 <mircea_popescu>	next stop, half bn
Apr 04 13:30:55 <jborkl>	yeah, it did not take long for it to go up 50 million
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Apr 04 13:31:10 <jborkl>	good deal, congrats
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Apr 04 13:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's like pushing nipples down.
Apr 04 13:34:33 <mircea_popescu>	impossible but lots of fun
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Apr 04 13:35:35 <mod6>	:]
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Apr 04 13:46:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 04 13:46:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.00999, Best ask: 129.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24001, Last trade: 129.00100, 24 hour volume: 126044.17368292, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.57859
Apr 04 13:47:10 <Uglux>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-04/visualizing-bitcoin-encryption-standard
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Apr 04 13:49:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2553 @ 0.00071356 = 1.8217 BTC [+]
Apr 04 13:49:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 497 @ 0.00071367 = 0.3547 BTC [+]
Apr 04 13:49:48 <kakobrekla>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 04 13:49:48 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 minutes and 14 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> impossible but lots of fun
Apr 04 13:50:04 <kakobrekla>	did he go to sleep?
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Apr 04 13:52:10 <deadweasely>	according to his webcam i hacked, he's fapping.  ;D
Apr 04 13:56:15 <thestrin1puller>	mpoe bounced back
Apr 04 13:56:19 <thestrin1puller>	!ticker h him
Apr 04 13:56:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D:  / 0 /  (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.96201695 / 2.08000000 (118 shares, 231.51799996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.81224245 / 2.08000000 (716 shares, 1297.56559240 BTC)
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Apr 04 14:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasely yea, on yourmom.
Apr 04 14:03:02 <mircea_popescu>	sup kakobrekla
Apr 04 14:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 803 @ 0.00071367 = 0.5731 BTC [+]
Apr 04 14:04:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7510 @ 0.00071368 = 5.3597 BTC [+]
Apr 04 14:04:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13824 @ 0.00071453 = 9.8777 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 14:05:56 <mod6>	getting closer
Apr 04 14:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	ok, this guy might have just won the troll competition.
Apr 04 14:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	so his new gf is a ballerina. she also happens to be polish.
Apr 04 14:06:35 <mircea_popescu>	he takes her to meet his family (mom, dad, sisters, grama)
Apr 04 14:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	and he tells them that the girl is
Apr 04 14:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	a
Apr 04 14:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	pole
Apr 04 14:06:43 <mircea_popescu>	dancer
Apr 04 14:06:58 <mod6>	HA
Apr 04 14:07:02 <MJR_>	LOL
Apr 04 14:07:18 <MJR_>	how many pole dancers does it take to...i give up
Apr 04 14:07:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 04 14:07:30 <MJR_>	i thought i had something for this
Apr 04 14:07:33 <mircea_popescu>	to screw in a light bulb ?
Apr 04 14:07:39 <MJR_>	there we go!
Apr 04 14:07:54 <iz>	none, pole dancers screw in a puddle of beer?
Apr 04 14:07:59 <MJR_>	hahaha
Apr 04 14:08:12 <MJR_>	in the coatcheck room
Apr 04 14:08:20 <iz>	haha, yes, that's more classy
Apr 04 14:08:29 <MJR_>	i do drink with my pinky out
Apr 04 14:08:37 <mircea_popescu>	there's a reason wardrobe has a little bar
Apr 04 14:08:56 <MJR_>	how are the bars in timisoara (sorry if misspelled)
Apr 04 14:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	mostly square
Apr 04 14:09:14 <MJR_>	strip clubs?
Apr 04 14:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	just like strip clubs
Apr 04 14:09:53 <MJR_>	little desperation mixed with single mothers?
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Apr 04 14:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	not rly. mostly college students.
Apr 04 14:10:06 <MJR_>	oh, NICE
Apr 04 14:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	this is yurp remember ?
Apr 04 14:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	we're not nutty about fucking here.
Apr 04 14:10:25 <MJR_>	ah yes, not quite as puritanical
Apr 04 14:10:30 <MJR_>	cheap perfume?
Apr 04 14:10:36 <mircea_popescu>	that's universal.
Apr 04 14:10:43 <MJR_>	and glitter that can't be gotten rid of? lol
Apr 04 14:10:44 <mircea_popescu>	you get cheap perfume in vegas.
Apr 04 14:10:54 <MJR_>	or nyc
Apr 04 14:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	well nyc. i meant places where people have money.
Apr 04 14:11:18 <bitesak>	http://www.icij.org/offshore
Apr 04 14:11:24 <MJR_>	hahaha, what do they smell like in other places?
Apr 04 14:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4492 = 0.8984 BTC [+]
Apr 04 14:12:09 <bitesak>	there have been leaks on the offshore world with millions of records, pics and more
Apr 04 14:12:16 <MJR_>	i'm just not a huge fan of strip clubs...
Apr 04 14:12:56 <bitesak>	"A cache of 2.5 million files has cracked open the secrets of more than 120,000 offshore companies and trusts"
Apr 04 14:12:58 <MJR_>	bitesak: very interesting
Apr 04 14:13:20 <MJR_>	do you think they will eventually try and tie wealthy people to bitcoin addresses?
Apr 04 14:14:05 <bitesak>	just saw it on the swiss news tonight, french treasurer of current president exposed as having 2 cayman islands outfits..
Apr 04 14:15:47 <MJR_>	by the way...i really liked that "ussa"
Apr 04 14:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	ok so i've got news from erik,
Apr 04 14:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	he's moved to an undisclosed offshore location, getting reorganised,
Apr 04 14:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice report and divs asap.
Apr 04 14:17:10 <[\\\]>	anyone use vircurex?
Apr 04 14:17:16 <[\\\]>	am I risking my life using it?
Apr 04 14:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	i never used it. is this kumala's thing ?
Apr 04 14:17:50 <[\\\]>	dunno who actually runs it
Apr 04 14:17:56 <[\\\]>	but its been around for a while
Apr 04 14:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	what are you, an idiot ?
Apr 04 14:18:03 <mircea_popescu>	don't use services you don't know the owner of.
Apr 04 14:18:06 <[\\\]>	I'm talking to you
Apr 04 14:18:11 <[\\\]>	so clearly I must be
Apr 04 14:18:13 <[\\\]>	:-)
Apr 04 14:18:32 <mircea_popescu>	no but seriously.
Apr 04 14:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.38199999 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 14:20:12 <[\\\]>	no but seriously
Apr 04 14:20:18 <[\\\]>	so even if I knew some guys screen name
Apr 04 14:20:21 <[\\\]>	that doesn't do anything for me
Apr 04 14:20:31 <[\\\]>	I know mtux runs gox, that doesn't mean anything
Apr 04 14:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	but you kinda know who he is neh ?
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Apr 04 14:21:29 <MJR_>	did erik say dividends?
Apr 04 14:21:41 <MJR_>	didn't think there would be any this month
Apr 04 14:22:04 <mircea_popescu>	well, in the sense of saying what they are. 0 is still a number.
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Apr 04 14:23:44 <[\\\]>	whats going on iwth erik?
Apr 04 14:23:44 <cryptrader>	Anyone here?
Apr 04 14:23:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+]
Apr 04 14:24:05 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 04 14:24:08 <mircea_popescu>	yes lol, someone's here.
Apr 04 14:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] he finally did the smart thing and quit the us.
Apr 04 14:24:23 <cryptrader>	Where's a good place to discuss ltc/nmc/ppc etc?
Apr 04 14:24:31 <mircea_popescu>	probably not here.
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Apr 04 14:24:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is mostly porn and weird artsy shit.
Apr 04 14:25:14 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu, so he got out of the us? was he being harassed?
Apr 04 14:25:14 <cryptrader>	Any better general crypto currency chat rooms?
Apr 04 14:25:24 <cryptrader>	I'm tired of the spam on btc-e
Apr 04 14:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] nah
Apr 04 14:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	cryptrader tell you honeslty i don't know. i've never been into the alt chains.
Apr 04 14:26:03 <MJR_>	i thought that spam was what they traded on btc-e
Apr 04 14:26:08 <MJR_>	and trolling
Apr 04 14:26:40 <MJR_>	whats ltc at?
Apr 04 14:27:12 <cryptrader>	Floating above $4usd
Apr 04 14:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	insanity.
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Apr 04 14:27:26 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 04 14:27:29 <cryptrader>	It was at 6 yesterday
Apr 04 14:27:35 <MJR_>	really?
Apr 04 14:27:54 <cryptrader>	Yep made some $ off that
Apr 04 14:28:09 <cryptrader>	Just trading with 2btc tho lol
Apr 04 14:28:55 <cryptrader>	Now ppc is doubling
Apr 04 14:29:31 <jcpham>	i guess noobs are figuring out all it takes is poeople for an alt-coin to become profitable
Apr 04 14:29:44 <unbalanced>	mircea_popescu: serious about Erik?
Apr 04 14:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	that he finally packed up and moved ? yes.
Apr 04 14:30:03 <unbalanced>	Where was he from before US?
Apr 04 14:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean before ys
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Apr 04 14:30:37 <cryptrader>	Yeah I'm just realizing it myself btc isn't the only and diversifying only makes sense
Apr 04 14:31:02 <cryptrader>	But with most of them all you can do is buy/sell btc but it sure is fun
Apr 04 14:31:38 <cryptrader>	Erik is satoshidice owner right?
Apr 04 14:32:00 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Apr 04 14:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	cryptrader sounds like ponzifun to me, but anyway.
Apr 04 14:32:16 <jcpham>	information costs money
Apr 04 14:32:30 <cryptrader>	Wonder how rich he is...
Apr 04 14:32:33 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu gives it out for free
Apr 04 14:32:35 <unbalanced>	I thought from his last name he was Dutch or something.
Apr 04 14:32:44 <unbalanced>	(at first)
Apr 04 14:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced ya cause that works in the us.
Apr 04 14:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	all the cohen people are from like lebanon.
Apr 04 14:33:15 <unbalanced>	I know, I walked into that one.
Apr 04 14:33:19 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Apr 04 14:33:44 <unbalanced>	I blame Austin Powers... can't trust the Dutch.
Apr 04 14:35:11 <unbalanced>	(I could also claim points for not assuming everyone was American)
Apr 04 14:35:21 <jurov>	[\\\] im using vircurex, didn't eat me so far
Apr 04 14:35:43 <jurov>	nor did it eat some ltcs i bought year ago
Apr 04 14:36:01 <jurov>	deadweasely whore, you around?
Apr 04 14:36:01 <unbalanced>	hey jurov, while I'm on a roll with my ignorance, what does the "br" in coinbr mean or stand for?
Apr 04 14:36:20 <jurov>	was meant to stand for broker
Apr 04 14:36:26 <unbalanced>	ah thx
Apr 04 14:36:29 <jurov>	but feel free to invent sth
Apr 04 14:37:05 <jurov>	all btc services have sexually colored malapropism
Apr 04 14:37:16 <jurov>	thus i feel excluded with coinbr
Apr 04 14:37:40 <MJR_>	so...pay rent in bitcoin directly to property management company...
Apr 04 14:37:56 <[\\\]>	thanks jurov
Apr 04 14:38:08 <[\\\]>	MJR_: another bitpay vendor.. big deal.
Apr 04 14:38:13 <MJR_>	https://www.aepropertymanage.com/index.html#news
Apr 04 14:38:14 <MJR_>	nope
Apr 04 14:38:23 <MJR_>	the owner of the company invested in bitcoins
Apr 04 14:38:26 <[\\\]>	Let's see someone accept actual coins and use them to pay for their employes
Apr 04 14:38:29 <[\\\]>	those palces are special
Apr 04 14:38:41 <MJR_>	when asked about volatility he said "bitcoin is more valuable than dollars, i don't care about volatility"
Apr 04 14:39:35 <MJR_>	https://www.aepropertymanage.com/rental-properties-rental-homes-memphis-tn.php
Apr 04 14:39:38 <MJR_>	not bitpay
Apr 04 14:39:43 <MJR_>	i hope they don't get hacked...
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Apr 04 14:40:34 <MJR_>	that is a positive sign, that he is willing to provide rent in bitcoin...the next step is a large employer to offer to pay in bitcoin
Apr 04 14:40:40 <[\\\]>	they're using coinbase
Apr 04 14:40:44 <[\\\]>	you realise thats just like bitpay?
Apr 04 14:40:47 <MJR_>	are you sure?
Apr 04 14:40:52 <[\\\]>	yes
Apr 04 14:40:58 <[\\\]>	when you check out, it pops up
Apr 04 14:41:17 <[\\\]>	fill in a fake amount and address, then click bitcoin
Apr 04 14:41:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.39 = 1.17 BTC [+]
Apr 04 14:41:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2253 @ 0.00333 = 7.5025 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 14:42:24 <MJR_>	wrong
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Apr 04 14:42:37 <MJR_>	can't you pay with a regular bitcoin addresss
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Apr 04 14:42:41 <MJR_>	or a coinbase account
Apr 04 14:42:57 <MJR_>	even if they manage the web interface the owner said he owns and wants bitcoins
Apr 04 14:43:23 <MJR_>	so it is not simply a cash to btc translator but rather a merchant looking to actively acquire bitcoin in exchange for services
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Apr 04 14:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 04 14:46:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.00000, Best ask: 132.67999, Bid-ask spread: 0.67999, Last trade: 132.00000, 24 hour volume: 124042.97259498, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.34869
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Apr 04 14:48:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 14:48:40 <MJR_>	aha...i just found the best article talking about why bitcoin will not be negatively affected by deflation
Apr 04 14:49:45 <MJR_>	http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-lines-in-the-bitcoin-bubble-battle-are-drawn-what-side-are-you-on-cm233350
Apr 04 14:49:49 <grubles>	[\\\], ive used vircurex for about a month or so
Apr 04 14:50:02 <grubles>	everythings been smooth as warm butter
Apr 04 14:50:12 <[\\\]>	they're struggling today
Apr 04 14:50:15 <kakobrekla>	its finally getting some traction among big bwanas now thats above 100
Apr 04 14:50:16 <[\\\]>	bad gateway messages
Apr 04 14:50:25 <grubles>	hm
Apr 04 14:50:26 <grubles>	not for me
Apr 04 14:50:46 <[\\\]>	you know that thing we talked about yesterday?
Apr 04 14:50:48 <[\\\]>	4x
Apr 04 14:50:53 <[\\\]>	made my day
Apr 04 14:50:53 <MJR_>	since bitcoin is rarely used as a unit of account, people don't pay rent denominated in bitcoin, or have salaries denominated in bitcoin
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Apr 04 14:51:15 <MJR_>	it can float against the dollar but will probably be able to buy more in dollars in the future
Apr 04 14:51:15 <grubles>	[\\\], what thing?
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Apr 04 14:51:38 <grubles>	oh yeah yeah
Apr 04 14:51:40 <grubles>	:)
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Apr 04 14:52:43 <deadweasely>	;;ticker
Apr 04 14:52:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.39801, Best ask: 132.48016, Bid-ask spread: 0.08215, Last trade: 132.39800, 24 hour volume: 122979.85614229, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.31262
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Apr 04 15:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4976 @ 0.00071453 = 3.5555 BTC [+]
Apr 04 15:00:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.0007146 = 9.0754 BTC [+]
Apr 04 15:00:34 <mircea_popescu>	there's a bitcoin bubble battle ?
Apr 04 15:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2405 @ 0.00071514 = 1.7199 BTC [+]
Apr 04 15:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.435 BTC [-]
Apr 04 15:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.435 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 15:08:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/330/mtgox-bitcoin-u/
Apr 04 15:08:37 <mircea_popescu>	look at that thing
Apr 04 15:10:21 <TomServo>	ridiculous.
Apr 04 15:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	for srs.
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Apr 04 15:15:13 <deadweasely>	y'all on yes or no?
Apr 04 15:18:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 98 @ 0.00333333 = 0.3267 BTC [+]
Apr 04 15:18:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 15:20:38 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Apr 04 15:20:39 <jborkl>	gox is starting to lag again
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Apr 04 15:32:20 <deadweasely>	mircea_popescu: nope on the $200 april bbet?
Apr 04 15:34:30 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel yea
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Apr 04 15:37:59 <deadweasely>	i guess i can hedge my calls with a no bet
Apr 04 15:38:24 <mircea_popescu>	that;'s an idea
Apr 04 15:39:24 <thestrin1puller>	cash those calls
Apr 04 15:39:40 <deadweasely>	sell to bot?
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Apr 04 15:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	you could also put them on the market, undercut bot
Apr 04 15:41:40 <thestrin1puller>	buy low sell high
Apr 04 15:43:03 <deadweasely>	well, i bought c188Ts at .087....   so 205 to break even.
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Apr 04 15:44:16 <deadweasely>	my first options!   aren't you all proud?!
Apr 04 15:44:25 <deadweasely>	probably not.
Apr 04 15:44:50 <thestrin1puller>	188 is too high
Apr 04 15:45:41 <bitesak>	iam proud!
Apr 04 15:46:42 <deadweasely>	i realize now...  learning requires mistakes.  so by the end of all this i'll be broke but rich in wisdom.  it's a fair trade.
Apr 04 15:48:35 <deadweasely>	looks like i was about $100 of the strike i should have bought, but the others were so expensive already on coinbr...
Apr 04 15:48:40 <deadweasely>	of / off
Apr 04 15:48:53 <mod6>	who's to say that every stoner wont pile in on 4/20 and send the price over 205 though?
Apr 04 15:48:59 <mod6>	so who knows
Apr 04 15:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	back when btc was 5ish it was hella cheap way to learn finance
Apr 04 15:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	but even now is better than alternative
Apr 04 15:49:19 <deadweasely>	mod6, that's a great point, college stoners buying btc.
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Apr 04 15:49:22 <deadweasely>	:)
Apr 04 15:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 205 really wouldn't be all that good for anyone.
Apr 04 15:49:32 <mod6>	i hear ya
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Apr 04 15:49:41 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87358.msg1738363#msg1738363 <<< last glbse remnants salvaged?
Apr 04 15:49:44 <thestrin1puller>	deadweasely: sell back the calls and sell otm puts
Apr 04 15:49:44 <mod6>	im just sayin... its a speculative bet...
Apr 04 15:50:10 <Lyspooner>	what do you say about litecoin, friends?
Apr 04 15:50:10 <mod6>	(12:49) < mircea_popescu> back when btc was 5ish it was hella cheap way to learn finance << i certainly learned A LOT
Apr 04 15:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/PthgrzDS here's a buncha dorks from a year ago.
Apr 04 15:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner you missed that bubble :D
Apr 04 15:50:36 <deadweasely>	i thought bitvps was a scam?
Apr 04 15:50:58 *	thestrin1puller is now known as thestringpuller
Apr 04 15:51:10 <jurov>	deadweasely, ask namworld about it
Apr 04 15:51:19 <jurov>	and see PM
Apr 04 15:51:27 *	thestringpuller is now known as Guest64700
Apr 04 15:52:03 *	Guest64700 is now known as thestringpuller
Apr 04 15:52:27 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu: i own zero LTC, but what is different about me saying "the people who say BTC is stupid are stupid" and someone calling me stupid for saying LTC is stupid
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Apr 04 15:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	"I bet. I won but have undone me obviously missed. They were fools and ridiculous to me have closed. Fuck them and their site of betting."
Apr 04 15:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty good.
Apr 04 15:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner bear with me i'm tired and that was too complex
Apr 04 15:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 04 15:53:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.00000, Best ask: 132.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 132.20000, 24 hour volume: 117001.33142800, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.72542
Apr 04 15:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.00757575*127.72542
Apr 04 15:53:42 <gribble>	0.967615850565
Apr 04 15:53:42 <mod6>	deadweasely: i guess too though, you have to figure in theta decay
Apr 04 15:53:50 <mod6>	since 4/20 is some days off yet
Apr 04 15:54:19 <Lyspooner>	if LTC pulls itself up by its bootstraps as BTC did, why dismiss it?
Apr 04 15:55:58 <deadweasely>	mod6 you lost me on theta decay, i'm looking it up now.   ok, time premium stuff.
Apr 04 15:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner there's no prize for being 2nd.
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Apr 04 15:56:44 <mircea_popescu>	you don;'t know who the second guy to discover newton's law is.
Apr 04 15:56:45 <Lyspooner>	what if there was
Apr 04 15:56:49 <mod6>	yeah, you get time decay on options up until opex
Apr 04 15:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	all the tards who want to play bitcoin gem / bitcoin gold bar / ultimate satoshi / etc will have to go somewhere.
Apr 04 15:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	since btc isn't working all that well for them.
Apr 04 15:58:15 <deadweasely>	http://www.capturingtheta.com/  my reading material tonight
Apr 04 15:58:22 <deadweasely>	mod6 is this good source?
Apr 04 15:58:22 <Lyspooner>	the price of a bitcoin should equal the price of a litecoin when normalized for the size of the total money supply to exist
Apr 04 15:58:58 <Lyspooner>	with maybe some premium assigned to the security of the hashing algorithms
Apr 04 15:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	absolutely not at all.
Apr 04 15:59:18 <mod6>	well looks like they have something there... i acutally just read up on "the greeks" (options greeks) at like wikipedia (lol)
Apr 04 15:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	this is like saying that the per capita income of your random nigger should equal the per capita income of your random jew.
Apr 04 15:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	not in this world.
Apr 04 15:59:28 <mod6>	and I did watch a bunch of the video's on options trading at CBOE.com
Apr 04 15:59:43 <mod6>	(go figure, use wall-street to learn how to trade mpex.)
Apr 04 15:59:45 <Lyspooner>	that's like your third metaphor that i don't find sufficient
Apr 04 15:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	2nd class citizens man, there's no curing that.
Apr 04 16:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	what, is ltc going to do a million coin march on the internet ?
Apr 04 16:00:35 <mod6>	http://www.cboe.com/tradtool/webcast.aspx << bunch of educational vids on options here
Apr 04 16:00:56 <Lyspooner>	arguments against litecoin now remind me of arguments against bitcoin three years ago.... no one should use it because no one will use it
Apr 04 16:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	you're misrepresenting the argument.
Apr 04 16:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	cunnyshack opens. one girl in it.
Apr 04 16:01:24 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you should use nigga instead of nigger, more proper
Apr 04 16:01:26 <deadweasely>	thx mod6
Apr 04 16:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	old wives argument : nobody goes to the cunnyshack.
Apr 04 16:01:36 <Lyspooner>	propa
Apr 04 16:01:37 <mircea_popescu>	men do go fuck her silly.
Apr 04 16:01:44 <mod6>	deadweasely: np
Apr 04 16:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	2nd girl joins cunnyshack.
Apr 04 16:01:58 <mircea_popescu>	well... fuck. this was my worst metaphor to date.
Apr 04 16:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. ltc only exists to ponzi atm.
Apr 04 16:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	poor people like it because it feels closer to what they want in an asset.
Apr 04 16:03:17 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: why do btc businesses fail so easily?
Apr 04 16:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	cause they're run by geeks.
Apr 04 16:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	just like restaurants run by cooks or sitcoms run by actors fail.
Apr 04 16:03:57 <Lyspooner>	"ltc is a ponzi scheme"
Apr 04 16:04:03 <Lyspooner>	where have i heard that before
Apr 04 16:04:03 <mod6>	deadweasely: here's one last link for ya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_(finance)
Apr 04 16:04:26 <bgupta>	well like 90% of new businesses that have nothing to do with btc fail.. Just because it's btc related shouldn't make that change.
Apr 04 16:04:28 <Lyspooner>	BTC money supply is actually BTC + LTC money supply
Apr 04 16:04:34 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner no argument there, but you're framing the issue.
Apr 04 16:04:37 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: but what busineses are succeeding? even bitinstant and blockchain.info are failures based on most standards
Apr 04 16:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller how is blockchain.info a failure ?
Apr 04 16:05:01 <TomServo>	how is it a business?
Apr 04 16:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32000001 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:05:04 <mircea_popescu>	it's serving its userbase remarkably well i thought
Apr 04 16:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	TomServo diff argument
Apr 04 16:05:26 <deadweasely>	i'll say
Apr 04 16:05:57 <thestringpuller>	okay, just Bitinstant then
Apr 04 16:06:01 <thestringpuller>	they were hacked
Apr 04 16:06:06 <mod6>	haha
Apr 04 16:06:08 <thestringpuller>	mtgox is a failure
Apr 04 16:06:14 <thestringpuller>	etc. etc.
Apr 04 16:06:21 <thestringpuller>	who is actually succeeding?
Apr 04 16:06:33 <Lyspooner>	mybitcoin succeeded
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Apr 04 16:07:30 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller bitcoin-central.
Apr 04 16:08:50 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu has spoken!!! move btc to bitcoin-central
Apr 04 16:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.32000001 = 9.28 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 16:09:07 <TomServo>	thestringpuller: how do you consider gox a failure?
Apr 04 16:09:32 <mircea_popescu>	made like a million dollah last month
Apr 04 16:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	clearly a failure neh ?
Apr 04 16:09:38 <bgupta>	asicminer argueably, same with avalon. but they'll both need to pivot to satay an ongonig concern. mpex seems to be doing well, mtgox despite issues, is here to stay. sdice, excluding it's potential as an investment is a survivor. some of these info sites seem to be fine.
Apr 04 16:09:42 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: put the link to trilema on the screen
Apr 04 16:09:46 <thestringpuller>	about goxlag
Apr 04 16:09:48 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 04 16:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.33 = 6.6 BTC [+]
Apr 04 16:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	so they're a card tradind site.
Apr 04 16:10:57 <mod6>	magic the gathering online exchange ftw!
Apr 04 16:10:59 <thestringpuller>	man i cant believe the black locus card crashed the site
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Apr 04 16:11:09 <thestringpuller>	4mn bidders
Apr 04 16:11:13 <TomServo>	heh, if not that - what then?!
Apr 04 16:11:20 <iz>	haha
Apr 04 16:11:26 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Just because they are totally broken, and constantly going down, you can not discount userbase enthusiasm, usage history, and first mover advantage.
Apr 04 16:11:57 <thestringpuller>	bgupta: you can only trip over yourself so long until yoi fall into an abyss
Apr 04 16:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 60 @ 0.34000001 = 20.4 BTC [+]
Apr 04 16:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta why are you arguing to me ? thestringpuller was saying.
Apr 04 16:12:27 <mircea_popescu>	but otherwise usage history is horrible.
Apr 04 16:12:35 <jurov>	i endorse b-c too. now only if they get it online :/
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Apr 04 16:12:52 <TomServo>	obviously gox is far from ideal - but if they're goal is to provide a BTC exchange platform, I'd say so far they've been successful in that.
Apr 04 16:13:03 <Lyspooner>	ok, mircea_popescu, this will be my parting thought on LTC.  You might like it...
Apr 04 16:13:03 <jurov>	oh and what happened to usagi's mpex asset? can you now disclose for lulz?
Apr 04 16:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	what ?!
Apr 04 16:13:22 <bgupta>	Twitter is a prime example of a site that started completely brokensuffered massive growing pains (and outages), and then went on to mainstream success.
Apr 04 16:13:23 <iz>	did you actually play magic?  remember the chaos orb?
Apr 04 16:13:29 <Scrat>	TomServo: that's like saying that I'm successful human being because I'm breathing
Apr 04 16:13:38 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: this http://bitbet.us/bet/1/usagi-ftw/
Apr 04 16:13:40 <Lyspooner>	The Bitcoin Foundation should use all its funds and destroy LTC the way people destroyed IOCoin and IXCoin
Apr 04 16:13:45 <bgupta>	They basically had to bring in a whole new tech team and throw out most of what they had.
Apr 04 16:13:45 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta twitter still is not a business/does not have a model.
Apr 04 16:13:54 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner that's nonsense.
Apr 04 16:14:13 <Lyspooner>	that's not nonsense, that's awesome and i'm awesome
Apr 04 16:14:14 <Scrat>	gox fails in every way possible, they had months to fix this shit, they didnt. EOD
Apr 04 16:14:35 <jurov>	mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NYAN
Apr 04 16:14:36 <TomServo>	Yet it's still possible to sell/buy BTC there so... I'm not sure I agree.
Apr 04 16:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat let me find this link for you
Apr 04 16:14:52 <thestringpuller>	jurov: LOLOLOL
Apr 04 16:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	jurov dafuck is that ?!
Apr 04 16:15:01 <cryptrader>	Lyspooner there is no 'bitcoin foundation' and how would that benefit anyone?
Apr 04 16:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpbYCfCfT1Y
Apr 04 16:15:28 <Lyspooner>	there is a bitcoin foundation and it doesn't benefit anyone
Apr 04 16:15:44 <Lyspooner>	well, it benefits the people that draw a salary from it
Apr 04 16:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner actually it's vessenes' little scam to try and float a little coin
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Apr 04 16:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	guy's the ceo treasurer and blabla of it,
Apr 04 16:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	got donations (from idiots), never published a report
Apr 04 16:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 43 @ 0.435 = 18.705 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:16:03 <cryptrader>	And gox just recently had to handle 10x their usual volume and increased ddos attacks of course they're struggling
Apr 04 16:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	perfect case for going to jale
Apr 04 16:16:37 <Lyspooner>	which one is vessenes
Apr 04 16:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	the ycombinator schmoozie.
Apr 04 16:17:08 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: What is/are NAT.ROUTERS?
Apr 04 16:17:14 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: lol
Apr 04 16:17:17 <cryptrader>	That said I'm all for a decentralized exchange or at least a few more good options.
Apr 04 16:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	 TomServo itams of connectivity within the interwebs
Apr 04 16:17:33 <TomServo>	nyuk nyuk
Apr 04 16:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	:D
Apr 04 16:17:46 <TomServo>	Just a joke?
Apr 04 16:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4234 @ 0.00070232 = 2.9736 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 16:18:11 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 04 16:19:54 <jurov>	sry for confusion. i misread "but otherwise usagi history is horrible."
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Apr 04 16:24:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7698 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:26:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00381 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:26:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.0038 = 0.095 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:26:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 85 @ 0.0036 = 0.306 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 16:30:49 <bitessak>	;;ticker
Apr 04 16:30:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.80000, Best ask: 134.88800, Bid-ask spread: 0.08800, Last trade: 134.88000, 24 hour volume: 117768.41535527, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.86503
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Apr 04 16:41:30 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Apr 04 16:41:33 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229700 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 123 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 18 hours, 6 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7747722.88855 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.70974
Apr 04 16:43:20 <jurov>	hmmm, should i lower iDiff-E price? but Apr 17 falls too near next diffchange
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Apr 04 16:52:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 12 @ 0.102 = 1.224 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:52:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 12 @ 0.101 = 1.212 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:52:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:52:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 11 @ 0.1005 = 1.1055 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:52:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:52:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:52:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Apr 04 16:55:37 <burnside>	<mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves i'll bet its ddos <<--- this.  sorry about that.  all the fun stuff happens while I'm sleeping.
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Apr 04 17:00:48 <topace|2>	burnside: just dont sleep
Apr 04 17:01:05 <kakobrekla>	i tried that.
Apr 04 17:01:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7698 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 17:03:25 <burnside>	how much do "don't sleep" pills cost these days?
Apr 04 17:04:00 <deadweasel>	$ per mg
Apr 04 17:04:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1028 BTC [+]
Apr 04 17:04:43 <burnside>	chinese are probing btct
Apr 04 17:05:10 <burnside>	route:          112.111.0.0/16
Apr 04 17:05:11 <burnside>	descr:          China Unicom CHINA169 Fujian Province Network
Apr 04 17:05:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+]
Apr 04 17:08:18 <kakobrekla>	http://i.imgur.com/RR99IB7.jpg
Apr 04 17:08:51 <deadweasel>	china probes all open ports
Apr 04 17:08:58 <deadweasel>	on everybody
Apr 04 17:11:39 <burnside>	this is the first I've seen on btct from China.  it's kind of fun watching the probes come through though.
Apr 04 17:12:29 <deadweasel>	takes a couple months for a new ip to be noticed...  you using denyhosts or fail2ban?
Apr 04 17:13:26 <deadweasel>	denyhosts will sync will denyhosts server and block them before first probe...  'refused connection from...'
Apr 04 17:15:22 <burnside>	I haven't integrated anything yet for fear of blocking legit users.  (and honestly, because I'm watching requests, it's in part to watch for vulnerabilities)
Apr 04 17:16:25 <burnside>	but yeah, there will be bans based on failed request counts
Apr 04 17:17:21 <topace|2>	burnside: i have all of china firewalled
Apr 04 17:17:27 <topace|2>	on all my servers
Apr 04 17:18:44 <topace|2>	in the 112.x range i have:
Apr 04 17:18:54 <topace|2>	112.78.0.0/20
Apr 04 17:18:54 <topace|2>	112.111.0.0/16
Apr 04 17:18:54 <topace|2>	112.132.192.0/19
Apr 04 17:22:34 <burnside>	if I do that, friedcat couldn't use the site.  ;)
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Apr 04 17:23:18 <burnside>	i've seriously considered it... but btct is an international community venture.  I don't want to close the doors to anyone.
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Apr 04 17:24:40 <deadweasel>	look at the denyhosts syncing, i think you'll like it
Apr 04 17:25:08 <deadweasel>	http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/faq.html#4_0
Apr 04 17:25:27 <deadweasel>	only block the baddies and script kiddies
Apr 04 17:26:33 <burnside>	that's pretty awesome.  what keeps people from submitting bad data?
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Apr 04 17:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34299998 BTC [+]
Apr 04 17:31:30 <cryptrader>	Looking for a good irc channel to discuss trading in...
Apr 04 17:31:43 <deadweasel>	burnside: great question.  i have no idea, you could put anything in your hosts.deny... i figure they get 1-5 confirmations from other users before listing it in sync
Apr 04 17:32:14 <deadweasel>	like a blockchain!  :D
Apr 04 17:34:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [-]
Apr 04 17:35:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003499 BTC [+]
Apr 04 17:38:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00999 = 0.02 BTC [-]
Apr 04 17:42:29 <jurov>	lol let's start namecoin blacklist... so that instead of ddosing, bad guys have to mine :D
Apr 04 17:44:52 <jborkl>	sdice profit this month 1639 bitcoins
Apr 04 17:45:00 <jborkl>	hell yeah
Apr 04 17:45:27 <burnside>	kind of early to call it profit
Apr 04 17:45:40 <jborkl>	profit so far
Apr 04 17:45:58 <burnside>	net revenue maybe.  ;)
Apr 04 17:46:04 <jborkl>	1600 in the hole would be - sd down 1600 so far
Apr 04 17:46:19 <jborkl>	ok
Apr 04 17:46:25 <jborkl>	agreed
Apr 04 17:46:33 <burnside>	pretty awesome tho!
Apr 04 17:47:24 <jborkl>	yes, last month at this time as you know- bad start
Apr 04 17:47:36 <jborkl>	so this is nice to have a buffer so early
Apr 04 17:47:41 <burnside>	last month overall, fairly depressing
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Apr 04 17:48:36 <jborkl>	and we are going to break 4 million bets soon
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Apr 04 17:49:23 <deadweasel>	jborkl: where do you find that #?
Apr 04 17:50:13 <jborkl>	4 million bets?
Apr 04 17:51:27 <deadweasel>	ya
Apr 04 17:51:44 <deadweasel>	is there a counter on sdice?  i never go.
Apr 04 17:51:57 <jborkl>	yes, can't miss it
Apr 04 17:52:16 <jborkl>	3,984,152
Apr 04 17:52:22 <deadweasel>	i hate site, its eyepain.
Apr 04 17:52:33 <deadweasel>	oh, there it is
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Apr 04 17:59:58 <jcpham>	if anyone has an idea and they need artsy direction: http://zinodaurart.tumblr.com/
Apr 04 18:00:07 <jcpham>	*** not a romanian scammer
Apr 04 18:00:22 <jcpham>	he just did a wicked logo for me for an incredibly fair price
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Apr 04 18:02:25 <jcpham>	after: http://gyazo.com/09ca71925a8f560347697a4b1e89b747
Apr 04 18:02:40 <jcpham>	before: http://i.imgur.com/J6kj9Qp.jpg
Apr 04 18:02:52 <jcpham>	;;gpg info zinodaur
Apr 04 18:02:52 <gribble>	User 'zinodaur', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1ywLprS23hCvjWrUuEzEkWsD2gqReoFdq, registered on Mon Mar 25 15:27:21 2013. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=zinodaur . Currently authenticated from hostmask zinodaur!zinodaur@5-14-228-130.residential.rdsnet.ro .
Apr 04 18:03:17 <deadweasel>	i like them both jcpham
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Apr 04 18:03:33 <jcpham>	well one is ready for print and one is rough draft made by 6 drunks guys
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Apr 04 18:04:13 <deadweasel>	dont underestimate 6 drunks
Apr 04 18:04:20 <jcpham>	hahaha
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Apr 04 18:04:46 <deadweasel>	Ai really cant choose bw them...  whos the audience?
Apr 04 18:05:03 <jcpham>	it's a band. rock/jazz/funk
Apr 04 18:05:07 <jcpham>	called "good love"
Apr 04 18:05:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38998 BTC [+]
Apr 04 18:05:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.38999 = 0.78 BTC [+]
Apr 04 18:05:49 <jcpham>	tshirts http://gyazo.com/3ce65c68340dd28d800edd352cb307f2.png
Apr 04 18:06:03 <jcpham>	the logo works on basically any color
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Apr 04 18:06:16 <jcpham>	because he knows colors and art
Apr 04 18:06:19 <jcpham>	and i don't
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Apr 04 18:06:44 <deadweasel>	you should make soft sleeveless like the old zildjian shirts..
Apr 04 18:06:52 <deadweasel>	maybe just the redneck in me...
Apr 04 18:07:00 <jcpham>	.5 btc it's worth it
Apr 04 18:07:11 <deadweasel>	lol
Apr 04 18:07:36 <deadweasel>	youre rght, 2nd logo better.
Apr 04 18:07:55 <jcpham>	ijs he took my ideas and made them proper
Apr 04 18:08:21 <jcpham>	we're still collaborating
Apr 04 18:08:27 <jcpham>	same idea/same pallete
Apr 04 18:08:32 <jcpham>	all the words inside the hard
Apr 04 18:08:43 <jcpham>	negative whitespace in between letters with instruments
Apr 04 18:08:46 <jcpham>	3btc gogogo
Apr 04 18:09:21 <jcpham>	make the same log, inside of a heart, incorporate negative whitespace and music
Apr 04 18:09:36 <jurov>	make it more sensual :P
Apr 04 18:09:59 <jcpham>	http://i.imgur.com/MSb06cv.jpg
Apr 04 18:10:05 <jcpham>	that's all i have as a concept
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Apr 04 18:10:46 <jcpham>	http://www.demilked.com/negative-space-logos/
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Apr 04 18:24:07 <kakobrekla>	bitbet and assbot going down.
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Apr 04 18:27:42 <orkaa>	maybe
Apr 04 18:27:49 <orkaa>	we'll see what hetzner says
Apr 04 18:30:09 <kakobrekla>	ill just ddos it myself
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Apr 04 18:35:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7698 = 5.3886 BTC [-]
Apr 04 18:35:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00449 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 18:40:22 <MJR_>	mircea not here?
Apr 04 18:41:49 <kakobreklaaa>	nop
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Apr 04 18:47:05 <assbot>	need a break.
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Apr 04 18:50:41 <optimator>	hey all
Apr 04 18:50:46 <optimator>	hey all
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Apr 04 18:52:21 <optimator>	it looks like http://mpex.co/mpex-vwap.php quotes in the old style??? I can't seem to figure out how that agrees with what's on http://mpex.co/
Apr 04 18:55:09 <kakobreklaaa>	the old style?
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Apr 04 18:56:24 <optimator>	well, back before March 29th - the quotes are like O.BTCUSD.C270T
Apr 04 18:56:36 <optimator>	that's what the market depth json shows
Apr 04 18:56:53 <optimator>	now quotes are like - O.USD.C035T
Apr 04 18:57:09 <optimator>	that's what the home page shows
Apr 04 18:58:13 <kakobreklaaa>	strange
Apr 04 18:58:22 <kakobreklaaa>	i see a mix in the vwap
Apr 04 18:59:24 <optimator>	oh right - steping through my code, I only saw the first few.... strange
Apr 04 18:59:50 <optimator>	maybe open contracts that didn't convert?
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Apr 04 19:01:23 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 04 19:01:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.23020, Best ask: 132.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.71980, Last trade: 132.95000, 24 hour volume: 94728.18737131, 24 hour low: 116.39063, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 131.45166
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Apr 04 19:02:18 <thestringpuller>	its too big for that hole: kakobreklaaa
Apr 04 19:02:20 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 04 19:05:09 <iz>	that's what she said?
Apr 04 19:06:46 <thestringpuller>	yup
Apr 04 19:06:51 <thestringpuller>	;)
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Apr 04 19:12:43 <deadweasel>	optimator: there was an opyions naming convention change
Apr 04 19:13:52 <bgupta>	other than mtgox are there any decent exchanges that have enough liquidity to trade these wild swings of price?
Apr 04 19:14:16 <mod6>	optimator: but he's right there is mixed MPSIC nomenclature in the raw JSON
Apr 04 19:14:53 <mod6>	some of it goes O.BTCUSD.C|P###T|N and the new one is setup as O.USD.C|P###T|N
Apr 04 19:15:40 <mod6>	my code is agnostic to what he MPSIC actually is, but still there is difference in the raw JSON so that might be the confusion?
Apr 04 19:16:01 <mod6>	for instance: http://dpaste.com/1047410/ works just fine ...
Apr 04 19:16:44 <mod6>	oh crap that was depth
Apr 04 19:18:23 <mod6>	so this looks ok too: http://dpaste.com/1047412/
Apr 04 19:20:48 <dub>	hrm, temptation to take some profit and buy my 86
Apr 04 19:21:53 <deadweasel>	86 what?
Apr 04 19:22:10 <deadweasel>	pinto?
Apr 04 19:22:16 <deadweasel>	:p
Apr 04 19:22:28 <mod6>	so even though this one is from the old MPSIC options nomenclature -- perhaps its just there for historical purposes? http://dpaste.com/1047417/
Apr 04 19:22:30 <dub>	toyota 86
Apr 04 19:24:19 <dub>	RC version drops next month
Apr 04 19:25:11 <mod6>	my guess is those will drop off after the end of this month. but not sure.
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Apr 04 19:27:43 <deadweasel>	dub, i recall this from before, but could you link me to a toyo 86?
Apr 04 19:27:49 <deadweasel>	nm
Apr 04 19:28:17 <deadweasel>	'http://www.ausmotive.com/2012/06/18/toyota-86-gts-gives-you-wings.html
Apr 04 19:28:20 <deadweasel>	that?
Apr 04 19:29:00 <dub>	yes, but without that wing
Apr 04 19:29:09 <deadweasel>	lol thank christ
Apr 04 19:29:51 <deadweasel>	i have a tacoma.. not fast, but sporty in other ways..  :)
Apr 04 19:30:25 <dub>	more like http://lexusenthusiast.com/2012/03/30/video-lexus-is-f-engine-installed-in-toyota-86/
Apr 04 19:32:24 <dub>	nice, mrs dub needs a new car and I'm pushign for a truck of some description to offset my rather impractical corolla
Apr 04 19:33:34 <deadweasel>	that's an f*ing monster..   holy crap.  what a machine.  that noise, the grumble!
Apr 04 19:34:01 <deadweasel>	perma drift
Apr 04 19:34:29 <deadweasel>	he did 360 in an S turn wtf?! bbq!
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Apr 04 19:34:58 <deadweasel>	those tires are done for
Apr 04 19:34:58 <dub>	yes probably a pipe dream on the v8 but a turbo STI unit would right in
Apr 04 19:35:50 <deadweasel>	the 8 is overkill.  sti is inline 6?
Apr 04 19:36:39 <dub>	2.5l boxer
Apr 04 19:37:33 <deadweasel>	subaru?
Apr 04 19:37:58 <tiberiusiv>	sti looks silly unless your 15 years old
Apr 04 19:38:26 <dub>	you can't actually see the engine from outside
Apr 04 19:38:35 <deadweasel>	lol
Apr 04 19:38:52 <dub>	and my corolla probably looks pretty stupid too
Apr 04 19:39:24 <deadweasel>	it's all relative.
Apr 04 19:40:38 <deadweasel>	tiberiusiv: you makin' any btc yet?
Apr 04 19:40:56 <deadweasel>	i thought you had some kind of business plan
Apr 04 19:41:09 <tiberiusiv>	im an early adopter fool
Apr 04 19:41:17 <tiberiusiv>	prob second richest here after mircea
Apr 04 19:41:27 <tiberiusiv>	and after his huge loss last month id say im the richest
Apr 04 19:41:50 <deadweasel>	huge is relative to your stack
Apr 04 19:42:01 <deadweasel>	it's all relative.
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Apr 04 19:42:04 <deadweasel>	:D
Apr 04 19:42:55 <deadweasel>	so are you making money with your stack?
Apr 04 19:43:23 <deadweasel>	dinner sorry!
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Apr 04 19:45:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 27 @ 0.7698 = 20.7846 BTC [-]
Apr 04 19:45:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070676 = 0.9188 BTC [+]
Apr 04 19:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070233 = 0.913 BTC [-]
Apr 04 19:45:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10455 @ 0.00070232 = 7.3428 BTC [-]
Apr 04 19:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24145 @ 0.00070125 = 16.9317 BTC [-]
Apr 04 19:45:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00070677 = 7.0677 BTC [+]
Apr 04 19:45:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34299999 BTC [+]
Apr 04 19:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00070125 = 7.2579 BTC [-]
Apr 04 19:45:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7698 BTC [-]
Apr 04 19:45:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12378 @ 0.00070125 = 8.6801 BTC [-]
Apr 04 19:45:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 131 @ 0.003496 = 0.458 BTC [-]
Apr 04 19:45:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1269 @ 0.003497 = 4.4377 BTC [+]
Apr 04 19:45:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000601 = 0.003 BTC [-]
Apr 04 19:45:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10581 @ 0.00070677 = 7.4783 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 20:30:20 <kakobrekla>	interesting; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167570.0
Apr 04 20:34:07 <jcpham>	pretty smart structuring
Apr 04 20:34:11 <jcpham>	if you ask me
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Apr 04 20:53:17 <deadweasel>	 could someone, theoretically, create a sale and a buy @ the same price (specific to .000001 btc) with te same volume, just to tick the price up prgressively as they pls?
Apr 04 20:53:35 <deadweasel>	as well as add fake waves behind them for effect?
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Apr 04 20:58:33 <joeykrim>	sounds like how algo equity trading works
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Apr 04 21:11:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [-]
Apr 04 21:11:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.769 = 1.538 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 21:12:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7698 BTC [+]
Apr 04 21:15:11 <deadweasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160838.0   dafuq is a bitcoin tree?
Apr 04 21:15:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7698 BTC [+]
Apr 04 21:17:10 <kakobrekla>	you must water the tree
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Apr 04 21:18:59 <deadweasel>	i water my trees, not yourn!
Apr 04 21:19:06 <deadweasel>	:)
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Apr 04 21:22:21 <joeykrim>	who decides what proposed bets are accepted on bitbet.us ?
Apr 04 21:22:58 <deadweasel>	mp
Apr 04 21:23:06 <deadweasel>	it takes 48 hrs
Apr 04 21:23:40 <deadweasel>	that gypsy probably sleepin
Apr 04 21:23:59 <deadweasel>	like 3 am there
Apr 04 21:24:12 <kakobrekla>	4
Apr 04 21:24:13 <deadweasel>	joeykrim, which bet?
Apr 04 21:24:20 <deadweasel>	my bad
Apr 04 21:24:58 <kakobrekla>	the one that is not (yet) approved
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Apr 04 21:26:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 21:26:15 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 04 21:26:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 04 21:26:18 <joeykrim>	ive proposed a bunch over the last few days .. some get accepted and some dont .. was wondering what kinda criteria is used and whether or person or automated or both
Apr 04 21:26:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.80003, Best ask: 132.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19997, Last trade: 131.80001, 24 hour volume: 82010.71339191, 24 hour low: 117.21000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 132.03970
Apr 04 21:26:32 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 04 21:26:33 <gribble>	57466.3103648
Apr 04 21:26:42 <kakobrekla>	its person/s
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Apr 04 21:26:53 <deadweasel>	criterion X.
Apr 04 21:27:38 <deadweasel>	i have 50% rejected
Apr 04 21:28:03 <deadweasel>	due to poor wording, timing or duplication.
Apr 04 21:28:14 <joeykrim>	kakobrekla, thx
Apr 04 21:28:25 <kakobrekla>	this month:
Apr 04 21:28:25 <joeykrim>	deadweasel, yea, would be helpful to get feedback on why they're rejected in order to make them better
Apr 04 21:28:26 <kakobrekla>	Proposals:
Apr 04 21:28:27 <kakobrekla>	Accepted: 32 / Rejected: 50 / Total: 83
Apr 04 21:28:33 <kakobrekla>	and only what 5 days
Apr 04 21:28:47 <deadweasel>	duplication like the two btc over 125/ btc over 150/ BTC over 200/   in april ets
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Apr 04 21:29:14 <joeykrim>	kakobrekla, ive been trying to contribute a bit hah
Apr 04 21:29:31 <kakobrekla>	cool :)
Apr 04 21:29:50 <deadweasel>	me too.  50% blanks though.
Apr 04 21:29:56 <deadweasel>	:)
Apr 04 21:30:00 <kakobrekla>	you can try to ask mp if you have any specific questions but generally its like faq says
Apr 04 21:30:23 <joeykrim>	yea, stay away from bad bets and try to make it something i would bet on
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Apr 04 21:31:04 <joeykrim>	is mp the full nick of the person?
Apr 04 21:31:30 <kakobrekla>	no, goes by mircea_popescu
Apr 04 21:31:35 <kakobrekla>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 04 21:31:35 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours, 13 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> yea
Apr 04 21:31:47 <joeykrim>	ah okay, i'll watch for that nick
Apr 04 21:31:49 <deadweasel>	aw. he's sleeping/
Apr 04 21:31:49 <kakobrekla>	should be back id say in 3-5 hrs
Apr 04 21:32:00 <kakobrekla>	prolly more 3
Apr 04 21:32:03 <kakobrekla>	than 5
Apr 04 21:32:03 <joeykrim>	kakobrekla, are you able view rejected bet reasons?
Apr 04 21:32:33 <kakobrekla>	nope, there is no 'reason' field
Apr 04 21:32:46 <kakobrekla>	we are unreasonable
Apr 04 21:32:51 <kakobrekla>	:p
Apr 04 21:32:57 <joeykrim>	that'd be helpful hah .. at least help me see if my bad bets are falling into one specific category
Apr 04 21:33:07 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Apr 04 21:33:10 <joeykrim>	the 5 newest bets listed on there i proposed
Apr 04 21:33:37 <deadweasel>	i'd say you're doing fine then.
Apr 04 21:33:49 <joeykrim>	well i prob have 5 or more rejected ;)
Apr 04 21:34:06 <joeykrim>	wanna reduce that ratio .. save myself and you guys times hah
Apr 04 21:34:21 <ThickAsThieves>	youc ould track your own suggestions
Apr 04 21:34:55 <joeykrim>	ThickAsThieves, yea, i kinda do, but im turning out to not be the best judge or good at speculating the reason they're rejected
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Apr 04 21:35:32 <joeykrim>	its all good. i do appreciate the site .. ill watch for mircea_popescu and see if there is any specific feedback i can gather to make my proposals better hah
Apr 04 21:35:56 <kakobrekla>	good plan
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Apr 04 21:39:31 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: tell me about bosnians
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Apr 04 21:39:59 <kakobrekla>	what do you want to know?
Apr 04 21:40:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5608 @ 0.00070871 = 3.9744 BTC [+]
Apr 04 21:40:42 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 04 21:40:43 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 131.73
Apr 04 21:41:31 <dub>	;;nethash
Apr 04 21:41:32 <gribble>	57466.3103648
Apr 04 21:41:55 <thestringpuller>	Are all bosnian women crazy?
Apr 04 21:41:57 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 21:41:58 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 11.46377 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0229732667252 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Apr 04 21:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 21:52:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3333 @ 0.00333333 = 11.11 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 21:55:28 <thestringpuller>	mp did it, he stabilized the price.
Apr 04 21:55:34 <thestringpuller>	unprecedented indeed...
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Apr 04 21:59:12 <KRS1337>	my friends are saying btc is due for plateu maybe a pretty decent downtrend but not a quick one, the gradual kind
Apr 04 22:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44999 BTC [+]
Apr 04 22:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44999399 BTC [+]
Apr 04 22:03:41 <cole_albon>	KRS1337 do your friends know where and how to short?
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Apr 04 22:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 22:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.34 = 1.36 BTC [+]
Apr 04 22:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44999399 = 0.9 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 22:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.343 = 1.372 BTC [+]
Apr 04 22:12:07 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 22:12:08 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2.014676 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00403738814656 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Apr 04 22:12:15 <bgupta>	;;ticket
Apr 04 22:12:16 <gribble>	Error: "ticket" is not a valid command.
Apr 04 22:12:19 <bgupta>	;ticker
Apr 04 22:12:24 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 04 22:12:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.00001, Best ask: 132.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.74999, Last trade: 132.75000, 24 hour volume: 75660.19956801, 24 hour low: 117.21000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 132.24228
Apr 04 22:12:30 <bgupta>	sorry
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Apr 04 22:20:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19999 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 22:31:40 <thestringpuller>	KRS1337: are your friends part of the bitcoin illuminati?
Apr 04 22:32:22 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 04 22:32:23 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 132.15
Apr 04 22:32:48 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 04 22:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 93.3570601 / 108.2470225 / 135.80742037 (19613 shares, 8,037.73 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 04 22:32:56 <thestringpuller>	not good
Apr 04 22:33:03 <thestringpuller>	KRS might be right....
Apr 04 22:33:34 <Bugpowder>	wat?
Apr 04 22:33:39 <cole_albon>	can you explain what that is?  I'm from missouri
Apr 04 22:33:50 <thestringpuller>	Hot chicks live in Missouri
Apr 04 22:34:01 <thestringpuller>	got that mid western "I'm innocent" shit goin on
Apr 04 22:34:06 <thestringpuller>	OIX is an index
Apr 04 22:34:14 <thestringpuller>	of all the options sold and bought both calls and puts
Apr 04 22:34:40 <thestringpuller>	it's an indicator of what the price "should be" based on options
Apr 04 22:35:08 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: I think there is gonna be a run on the banks.
Apr 04 22:35:19 <cole_albon>	does this say btc should be 108?
Apr 04 22:35:30 <thestringpuller>	one second cole_albon
Apr 04 22:35:40 <Bugpowder>	cole_albon: I doubt OIX is actually predictive
Apr 04 22:35:47 <Bugpowder>	it certainly is correlated
Apr 04 22:35:53 <cole_albon>	stringpuller:  run on the banks where? Japan?
Apr 04 22:36:12 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: there has been that talk since 2008
Apr 04 22:36:17 <thestringpuller>	cole_albon: from the faq Starting tonight MPEx publishes an aggregate options sentiment index. It looks something like the illustration on the left.
Apr 04 22:36:21 <thestringpuller>	The first value reflects the market sentiment as to the likely BTC/USD evolution. It.s calculated as follows : for every option sold by the MPOE bot (but not bought, only sold) during the past 7 days (604`800 seconds) the break even point is calculated.
Apr 04 22:36:27 <Bugpowder>	I've been keeping cash on hand for a while
Apr 04 22:36:38 <Bugpowder>	Now I have a lot more cash on hand due to localbitcoins sales
Apr 04 22:36:44 <Bugpowder>	I won't be depositng that
Apr 04 22:36:51 <Bugpowder>	just in case...
Apr 04 22:36:58 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: why even bother being a scientist? Being a bitcoin VC seems more profitable for you.
Apr 04 22:37:03 <Bugpowder>	Dude
Apr 04 22:37:08 <Bugpowder>	tell me about it
Apr 04 22:37:32 <Bugpowder>	I'll know if I got a big league science job sometime next week.
Apr 04 22:38:03 <cole_albon>	good luck next week
Apr 04 22:38:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15789 BTC [+]
Apr 04 22:39:10 <thestringpuller>	oh man Bugpowder you gonona be curing Alzheimers?!?!?
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Apr 04 22:39:23 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: Super Scientist Extraordinaire
Apr 04 22:39:24 <Bugpowder>	if i don't get it....  There are a couple of potential avenues.  Try again next year after publishing some more papers.  Move to a new place and do a crazy high risk project.  Do a neuro startup.  Do a non-science startup on algorithmic optimization of realestate pricing.
Apr 04 22:39:38 <Bugpowder>	OR... bitcoin startup
Apr 04 22:40:02 <thestringpuller>	Is their a consumer market for neuro science?
Apr 04 22:40:05 <thestringpuller>	there*
Apr 04 22:40:12 <thestringpuller>	geeze can't grammar tonight
Apr 04 22:40:46 <cole_albon>	I've been thinking real estate next to highways will be going up for the next decade with the introduction of electric cars.
Apr 04 22:40:51 <Bugpowder>	There is a lot of bullshit consumer market neuro shit coming out now
Apr 04 22:41:02 <Bugpowder>	we are ina neuro bubble.
Apr 04 22:41:04 <cole_albon>	less noise
Apr 04 22:41:04 <Bugpowder>	seriously.
Apr 04 22:41:16 <Bugpowder>	cole_albon: that is a very interesting point.
Apr 04 22:41:39 <cole_albon>	seems like some alto could capture that.
Apr 04 22:41:40 <Bugpowder>	The BRAIN initiative that Obama announced looks potentially promising
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Apr 04 22:41:47 <Bugpowder>	I need to get funding from them
Apr 04 22:41:53 <cole_albon>	100 million is not much of a promise
Apr 04 22:41:57 <Bugpowder>	per year
Apr 04 22:42:02 *	mircea_popescu is now known as Guest9632
Apr 04 22:42:22 <Bugpowder>	you can fund a lot of labs with 100 million
Apr 04 22:42:45 <Bugpowder>	a typical "big" grant to run a lab, an R01, averages about $250k/yr for 5 years.
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Apr 04 22:43:14 <thestringpuller>	there is a neuro bubble?
Apr 04 22:43:15 <cole_albon>	well then I hope you don't get the job and it gets you a crazy high risk project with Obama money
Apr 04 22:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.343 = 0.686 BTC [+]
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Apr 04 22:44:20 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 04 22:44:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.20003, Best ask: 132.14430, Bid-ask spread: 0.94427, Last trade: 132.14431, 24 hour volume: 74652.69434725, 24 hour low: 117.21000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 132.39843
Apr 04 22:44:50 <Bugpowder>	well, if I get the job I will try to get that money.  In my current position, budget is basically unlimited
Apr 04 22:44:55 <Bugpowder>	But power is low
Apr 04 22:45:24 <thestringpuller>	but you have like at least 1mn in btc
Apr 04 22:45:28 <thestringpuller>	so why not liquidate and start a lab?
Apr 04 22:45:31 <thestringpuller>	for 4 years
Apr 04 22:45:41 <Bugpowder>	I am not a bitcoin millionarie
Apr 04 22:45:52 <Bugpowder>	you guys overestimate
Apr 04 22:46:14 <thestringpuller>	Did you lose a bit on that put-based position awhile back?
Apr 04 22:46:25 <mircea_popescu>	he lost it all on gox
Apr 04 22:46:27 <Bugpowder>	I have lost a lot on puts
Apr 04 22:46:29 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 04 22:46:46 <Bugpowder>	but yah, did lose on that put play at the end of last month
Apr 04 22:46:56 <Bugpowder>	gox better send me mah cash
Apr 04 22:47:01 <thestringpuller>	your call play raped all though
Apr 04 22:47:14 <Bugpowder>	I wish I had more
Apr 04 22:47:18 <cole_albon>	string puller are you "the girl" somewhere else?
Apr 04 22:47:22 <Bugpowder>	only put 20% down.
Apr 04 22:47:32 <thestringpuller>	Haha. I'm not female.
Apr 04 22:47:47 <thestringpuller>	There are no females in bitcoin, except those mircea_popescu pays
Apr 04 22:47:58 <thestringpuller>	and aethero's wife
Apr 04 22:48:08 <ThickAsThieves>	i was just gonna say that string!
Apr 04 22:48:13 <ThickAsThieves>	you typed faster
Apr 04 22:48:46 <dub>	its the internet
Apr 04 22:48:48 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu should make an exchange
Apr 04 22:48:49 <thestringpuller>	oh yea
Apr 04 22:48:51 <thestringpuller>	nvm
Apr 04 22:48:53 <dub>	ie, no girls
Apr 04 22:49:04 <cole_albon>	yeah - I thought you knew a bit too much about the mpex sentiment index.  kinda like what a girl would have to know if they were under the employ of mircea_popescu
Apr 04 22:49:41 <ThickAsThieves>	cole is MPOE-PR
Apr 04 22:49:43 <ThickAsThieves>	deflecting
Apr 04 22:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	this is going well...
Apr 04 22:49:53 <Bugpowder>	There was also the wife of Kludge, who's money was involved in bitcoins, even if she want.
Apr 04 22:49:57 <Bugpowder>	wasnt
Apr 04 22:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder she wasn't his wife.
Apr 04 22:50:11 <thestringpuller>	MPOE-PR is probably the most anonymous PR agent I've ever seen.
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Apr 04 22:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	he considers her his wife, she considers him a limited liability.
Apr 04 22:51:02 <ColdHardMetal>	limited?
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Apr 04 22:51:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you know, now that I think about it. You are the only public facing individual of mpex. MPOE-PR is very private (in a sense), and the other "board members" are illuminati style hidden.
Apr 04 22:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	well she did cut him off once he was costing more than what the naked housecleanning + toe suckling was worth neh ?
Apr 04 22:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller yes.
Apr 04 22:51:54 <ColdHardMetal>	fair enough lol
Apr 04 22:52:04 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is the bitcoin illuminati, be warned!
Apr 04 22:52:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7697 BTC [-]
Apr 04 22:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	no i'm not
Apr 04 22:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	i just work here.
Apr 04 22:52:38 <mircea_popescu>	how is she anon anyway
Apr 04 22:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	there's like... one person on all the forum using their face in their avatar.
Apr 04 22:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	and that's the one you call anon.
Apr 04 22:53:06 <mircea_popescu>	how about everyone else then
Apr 04 22:53:25 <ThickAsThieves>	wait, evoorhees isnt a jester?
Apr 04 22:53:28 <thestringpuller>	no one knows her name, just what people speculate
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Apr 04 22:53:37 <cole_albon>	I'm sorry I brought her up.
Apr 04 22:53:38 <ThickAsThieves>	selling all my sdice then
Apr 04 22:53:43 <thestringpuller>	she could be romanian, but who knows
Apr 04 22:54:00 <thestringpuller>	her connection to you is only a GPG signed credential
Apr 04 22:54:14 <thestringpuller>	since you haven't disclosed that you've met in person
Apr 04 22:54:19 <thestringpuller>	it's quite interesting :)
Apr 04 22:54:21 <mircea_popescu>	Maria Puella Octavia Eufrosina - Patricia Raphaella de Ruiz y Picasso
Apr 04 22:54:38 <cole_albon>	sounds expensive
Apr 04 22:54:47 <mircea_popescu>	well she's tall
Apr 04 22:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	and she's not romanian, she's murican.
Apr 04 22:55:49 <cole_albon>	If that was the name of someone,  I take back what I said about expensive.  I'm from Missouri.
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Apr 04 22:56:17 <thestringpuller>	Missouri is one of the few states I've consistently gotten laid in.
Apr 04 22:56:17 <kakobrekla>	now saying its cheap??
Apr 04 22:56:28 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 04 22:56:47 <thestringpuller>	Mid-Western girls are bored by default.
Apr 04 22:57:20 <cole_albon>	if you mention my sister I'm gonna have to open up a can of wupass
Apr 04 22:57:28 <ThickAsThieves>	modwestern anything-with-eyes is bored by default, no?
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Apr 04 22:57:58 <ThickAsThieves>	modwestern, heh, sounds like a fashion trend
Apr 04 22:58:08 <thestringpuller>	I went to Truman for a visit...man those girls no how to party.
Apr 04 22:58:20 <thestringpuller>	For being in the middle of nowhere, bajeezus.
Apr 04 22:58:33 <thestringpuller>	know* (can't grammar tonight)
Apr 04 22:59:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.00999 = 0.0699 BTC [-]
Apr 04 23:00:30 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu how did you stabilize the price?
Apr 04 23:00:39 <ThickAsThieves>	with his bare hands
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Apr 04 23:00:52 <cole_albon>	lol
Apr 04 23:01:02 <cole_albon>	I do want to know though...
Apr 04 23:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	well... you know how they say if you wish for something really really hard it comes true ?
Apr 04 23:01:14 <mircea_popescu>	this works for some people.
Apr 04 23:01:54 <Bugpowder>	This is a movement I can support.  http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/04/femen-stages-a-topless-jihad/100487/
Apr 04 23:02:11 <Bugpowder>	cole_albon: It's called The Secret
Apr 04 23:02:18 <Bugpowder>	have you read it/
Apr 04 23:02:39 <Bugpowder>	This is how I made my calls make money
Apr 04 23:03:01 <Bugpowder>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(book)
Apr 04 23:03:11 <Bugpowder>	I just visualized success.
Apr 04 23:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/cum-se-protesteaza-corect/
Apr 04 23:03:24 <cole_albon>	I'm glad you made money Bugpowder I should have listened to you - you were right.
Apr 04 23:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	that's me explaining to romanians how to correcrtly protest
Apr 04 23:03:25 <ThickAsThieves>	this one is dope http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/femen040413/s_f15_65342447.jpg
Apr 04 23:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	after they made some fail demonstrations of fail.
Apr 04 23:04:15 <cole_albon>	wow that was dope
Apr 04 23:04:17 <Bugpowder>	I need to get back to my price rise visualizations again
Apr 04 23:04:48 <thestringpuller>	why not visualize a price crash
Apr 04 23:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	so two chicks followed me on twitter this hour.
Apr 04 23:04:51 <thestringpuller>	and make money on puts this time
Apr 04 23:04:51 <Bugpowder>	I sense... an awareness of another... suppressing the price
Apr 04 23:05:02 <mircea_popescu>	one's an investment fund partner, the other's a make-up artist and fashion broad.
Apr 04 23:05:05 <Bugpowder>	My powers only work one way
Apr 04 23:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	i think the internets r broken
Apr 04 23:05:15 <Bugpowder>	I gotta go find my credits
Apr 04 23:05:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu I met a romanian girl at my bank
Apr 04 23:05:36 <thestringpuller>	Simona
Apr 04 23:05:40 <mircea_popescu>	sounds romanian
Apr 04 23:05:43 <thestringpuller>	you should teach me romanian so I can seduce her
Apr 04 23:05:50 <thestringpuller>	;)
Apr 04 23:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	say "ce frumoasa esti" to her, see what happens
Apr 04 23:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.31511 = 2.5209 BTC [-]
Apr 04 23:06:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.3151 = 2.8359 BTC [-]
Apr 04 23:06:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 33 @ 0.315 = 10.395 BTC [-]
Apr 04 23:06:19 <thestringpuller>	forecast for tomorrow "mircea_popescu: I got slapped!!!!"
Apr 04 23:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is why you're single. you have no clue what happens next wioth girls.
Apr 04 23:06:49 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, did you do a hacker bat signal to ddos mtgox on the rally to 147?
Apr 04 23:06:52 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHA
Apr 04 23:07:06 <mircea_popescu>	a bat whaty
Apr 04 23:07:17 <ThickAsThieves>	did you call in the troops?
Apr 04 23:07:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i cant speak without using cliches and expressions, sry :)
Apr 04 23:07:37 <thestringpuller>	we'll never know
Apr 04 23:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	no i didn't.
Apr 04 23:08:02 <ChaangNoi>	bat signal is like a spot light in the sky that shows a pic of a bat, batman sees this then goes to save the day
Apr 04 23:08:08 <ChaangNoi>	comicbooks/cartoons
Apr 04 23:08:44 <Bugpowder>	another possiblilty is that the price had to crash because it was up 45% in 12 hours.
Apr 04 23:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/4SUXv67h
Apr 04 23:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.449992 BTC [-]
Apr 04 23:09:21 <dub>	jews did 04/03/03
Apr 04 23:09:22 <cole_albon>	mircea_popescu I don't think I've seen an s.dice dividend yet have I?
Apr 04 23:09:27 <ThickAsThieves>	my theory is still that a bottleneck at gox caused the rally
Apr 04 23:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	and Bugpowder has it. in certain circumstances things need to chose one or the other of two paths
Apr 04 23:09:29 <ChaangNoi>	yeah, 42% was too much, i hope this is now some stability, \
Apr 04 23:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin chose the light.
Apr 04 23:09:31 <ThickAsThieves>	lack of deposits
Apr 04 23:09:43 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: yeah
Apr 04 23:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	cole_albon i dunno, is it on the mpex page ?
Apr 04 23:09:48 <Bugpowder>	BTC deposit delay
Apr 04 23:09:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i just wanted to ask mp outright, rather than have people wonder
Apr 04 23:10:00 <Bugpowder>	I was waiting 35 confirmations
Apr 04 23:10:07 <ThickAsThieves>	even if he lied about it obv ;)
Apr 04 23:10:09 <Bugpowder>	everyone else must have been too.
Apr 04 23:10:11 <cole_albon>	yes,  but I do not recall seeing it in any STAT so far.
Apr 04 23:10:13 <dub>	Bugpowder has it. Its a -dev safety valve
Apr 04 23:10:27 <Bugpowder>	;;bids -
Apr 04 23:10:28 <gribble>	Error: '-' is not a valid  floating point number.
Apr 04 23:10:30 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 04 23:10:32 <dub>	stop the network transacting to protect from bubble
Apr 04 23:10:33 <gribble>	There are currently 31092307 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10131721.5745 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0099 seconds
Apr 04 23:10:38 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe MPOE-PR did it
Apr 04 23:10:39 <mircea_popescu>	if you look at the times, the rally was broken and the trend reversing hours before mtgox was blinking
Apr 04 23:10:40 <Bugpowder>	ohhhh hai!
Apr 04 23:10:48 <Bugpowder>	back over $10 million!
Apr 04 23:10:59 <Bugpowder>	RALLLY TIME
Apr 04 23:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;asks 999999999999
Apr 04 23:11:09 <gribble>	There are currently 63713.817 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999999.0 USD, worth 1.46160793292e+12 USD in total. | Data vintage: 36.6863 seconds
Apr 04 23:11:15 <dub>	peanut butter rally time
Apr 04 23:11:17 <Bugpowder>	-visualizing-
Apr 04 23:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	heh. i wonder if anyone realises that with ~5% of btc on their system, mtgox barely matters in the scheme of things
Apr 04 23:11:57 <ThickAsThieves>	not many realize that
Apr 04 23:11:57 <ChaangNoi>	i have more than realized that
Apr 04 23:11:59 <ChaangNoi>	fuck gox
Apr 04 23:12:03 <Bugpowder>	I am just amazed that the super early adopters don't sell at least a little.
Apr 04 23:12:25 <Bugpowder>	BTW - mircea_popescu, Rassah actually ISN'T my friend.
Apr 04 23:12:33 <Bugpowder>	it was all a terrible misunderstanding
Apr 04 23:12:33 <ThickAsThieves>	how many 100,000+ owners do you think their are?
Apr 04 23:12:40 <ThickAsThieves>	there
Apr 04 23:12:43 <Bugpowder>	I know of one.
Apr 04 23:12:45 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 04 23:12:47 <Bugpowder>	personally
Apr 04 23:12:53 <Bugpowder>	didn't know he had so much
Apr 04 23:12:58 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: the question is who would rise from the ashes? bitcoin-central?
Apr 04 23:13:01 <Bugpowder>	till 2 nights ago
Apr 04 23:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	what ever happened to rassah ? i remember he busting his ballsack over having sold at 20 and bought a new car
Apr 04 23:13:05 <Bugpowder>	he hasn't sold any
Apr 04 23:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	and how smart he is.
Apr 04 23:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	i guess sepukku ?
Apr 04 23:13:38 <ThickAsThieves>	speaking of suicide, whats up with BFL?
Apr 04 23:13:47 <Bugpowder>	dead spasms
Apr 04 23:13:51 <dub>	fuck bitcoin, at this rate im buying the 86 with ppcoin
Apr 04 23:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	i can't understand that retarded bets of bitcoin dood.
Apr 04 23:14:05 <ChaangNoi>	BFLspecs are down, plus deay
Apr 04 23:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	pushing that bet ? what is he, braindead ?
Apr 04 23:14:13 <ThickAsThieves>	plus higher prices
Apr 04 23:14:18 <cole_albon>	mircea_popescu I apologize I read 04-03-13 as April 3rd.  I'm from Missouri
Apr 04 23:14:20 <ChaangNoi>	yeah higher prices
Apr 04 23:14:23 <ChaangNoi>	bfl is fucked
Apr 04 23:14:29 <Bugpowder>	one of my friends I turned on to bitcoin bought a loaded Golf TDI tonight
Apr 04 23:14:31 <ThickAsThieves>	if BFL changes posted specs, does that affect bitbets
Apr 04 23:14:32 <ChaangNoi>	i wonder how they can ship out the first units
Apr 04 23:14:45 <Bugpowder>	he invested $500.  Just cashed out a fraction..
Apr 04 23:15:02 <ThickAsThieves>	BFL has plenty units ready
Apr 04 23:15:05 <dub>	<3 BFL
Apr 04 23:15:06 <ThickAsThieves>	they are just using them
Apr 04 23:15:07 <ChaangNoi>	they said the 66 wont ship now, get two of the 32, then lol its only 25
Apr 04 23:15:16 <dub>	don't care that I paid $13k for a non existant asic
Apr 04 23:15:31 <dub>	AM is going to make bank
Apr 04 23:15:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 04 23:15:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.48668, Best ask: 134.48700, Bid-ask spread: 0.00032, Last trade: 134.48668, 24 hour volume: 74092.84282738, 24 hour low: 117.21000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 132.56604
Apr 04 23:16:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 04 23:16:02 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 5.304483 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.01063012454 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU).
Apr 04 23:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	dub i thought you weren't into btc, too risky.
Apr 04 23:16:08 <Bugpowder>	redistribution of wealth from america to china, AGAIN
Apr 04 23:16:14 <ChaangNoi>	AM is goingto rape:)
Apr 04 23:16:28 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi they still haven't got 12 th online you know
Apr 04 23:16:36 <mircea_popescu>	their chips still are blowing up like chinese lightbulbs.
Apr 04 23:16:40 <ChaangNoi>	they are building a data center
Apr 04 23:16:41 <dub>	mircea_popescu: btc is for fags
Apr 04 23:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	yeah sure. and an island
Apr 04 23:16:56 <ChaangNoi>	mp, im happy to wait, cuz they going to rape
Apr 04 23:17:07 <ChaangNoi>	i dont know about the island, but that is not a bad idea
Apr 04 23:17:13 <ChaangNoi>	they will be able to afford it
Apr 04 23:17:16 <ChaangNoi>	nation of btc!
Apr 04 23:17:17 <dub>	I have an island
Apr 04 23:17:21 <ChaangNoi>	powered by am!
Apr 04 23:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	listen, everyone's getting raped just as soon as someone with a clue starts doing it.
Apr 04 23:17:44 <mircea_popescu>	asic producers, miners, fiat exchanges, the works.
Apr 04 23:17:49 <ThickAsThieves>	"Butterfly Labs aka BFL will deliver ASIC Bitcoin mining devices to their customers before 1st of July 2013. Devices must be in scope of at least +-10% of advertised performance in order to be accepted as valid."
Apr 04 23:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much nothing you see today will be here as bitcoin reaches maturity.
Apr 04 23:17:57 <ChaangNoi>	i have faith in friedcat, yes, there was a delay but its not cuz his hardware failed
Apr 04 23:17:59 <ThickAsThieves>	they changed advertised specs
Apr 04 23:18:03 <ThickAsThieves>	soooo?
Apr 04 23:18:08 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what about you? will you remain?
Apr 04 23:18:18 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Apr 04 23:18:20 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves so what ?
Apr 04 23:18:27 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: did it change for existing orders?
Apr 04 23:18:47 <ChaangNoi>	hmmm
Apr 04 23:18:51 <ChaangNoi>	that is a sticky wicket
Apr 04 23:19:00 <dub>	wat
Apr 04 23:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi that theory would have been easily enough proven by delivering on their promise to send samples to community members.
Apr 04 23:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	they didn't, and aren't mentioning it again.
Apr 04 23:19:18 <ThickAsThieves>	it doesnt say anything about when people order
Apr 04 23:19:29 <ThickAsThieves>	just advertised specs
Apr 04 23:19:37 <ChaangNoi>	mp they are going to sell them in auction style
Apr 04 23:19:43 <ChaangNoi>	i guess you are not a board member?
Apr 04 23:19:58 <mircea_popescu>	i just use more salt to digest friedcat's stuff than you people.
Apr 04 23:20:13 <ChaangNoi>	well if you are right in the end, i will have less btc
Apr 04 23:20:17 <mircea_popescu>	for instance, when someone promises something and then they don't deliver on their promise, even if they're chinese
Apr 04 23:20:19 <dub>	mircea_popescu: I thought china could do no wrong?
Apr 04 23:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	i don't jump to the unrelated "they will x"
Apr 04 23:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	dub eh ?
Apr 04 23:20:40 <ChaangNoi>	well buy AM stock or more gpus... hmmm
Apr 04 23:20:54 <dub>	you're always talking up china
Apr 04 23:21:00 <ThickAsThieves>	even if AM does what they say, it doesnt mean there wont be more delays
Apr 04 23:21:11 <Bugpowder>	$10.23MM
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Apr 04 23:21:16 <mircea_popescu>	actually no matter what, delays there will be
Apr 04 23:21:53 <kakobrekla>	new indicator, beats OIX
Apr 04 23:21:53 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/1
Apr 04 23:22:02 <ThickAsThieves>	just cuz friedcat was first doesnt mean he will do everything right the first time
Apr 04 23:22:18 <ThickAsThieves>	arguably first*
Apr 04 23:22:31 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 04 23:22:32 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 04 23:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla cool, that'll be useful next sturles shows up
Apr 04 23:22:57 <ChaangNoi>	AM and friedcat is looking like the best bet right now on asics as far as i can invest, bfl, hhhaa no, avalon? maybe but at this price, no
Apr 04 23:23:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i like AM, but i dont like repeatedly moving targets
Apr 04 23:24:15 <dub>	they'll be more in the market soon surely
Apr 04 23:24:58 <ChaangNoi>	AM has said they will shoot for 10% average over a year
Apr 04 23:25:08 <thestringpuller>	what does AM stand for?
Apr 04 23:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167459.msg1743668#msg1743668
Apr 04 23:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	dude this  sort of shit.
Apr 04 23:25:20 <ChaangNoi>	not a moving target... they also say they have a bunch of chips, but no power...
Apr 04 23:25:24 <mircea_popescu>	"our system did something we don't know why it happens nm we'll undo it manually"
Apr 04 23:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like...
Apr 04 23:25:39 <dub>	thestringpuller: asicminer
Apr 04 23:25:58 <dub>	mircea_popescu: lol
Apr 04 23:26:25 <ChaangNoi>	yankee...
Apr 04 23:27:22 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: send them some of your programmers
Apr 04 23:28:14 <ChaangNoi>	mp why not make a romanian exchange?
Apr 04 23:28:25 <thestringpuller>	^-this
Apr 04 23:29:08 <mircea_popescu>	im not interested in handling fiat.
Apr 04 23:29:13 <Bugpowder>	Is romania signed on to FATCA?
Apr 04 23:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not interested in writing code
Apr 04 23:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not going to be the mother of bitcoin invalids.
Apr 04 23:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	how about other people do their job too.
Apr 04 23:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder it makes jack shit of a difference, i could easily do it.
Apr 04 23:29:54 <mircea_popescu>	i know half the bankers in the country.
Apr 04 23:30:18 <mircea_popescu>	unlike absolutely any other bitcoiner i can just walk into a bank's boardroom and talk to the board.
Apr 04 23:30:22 <mircea_popescu>	but i'm not interested in doing fiat.
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Apr 04 23:31:32 <ChaangNoi>	btcguild 48% time ot fire the lazorz?
Apr 04 23:31:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: it will be funny when I drop your name to simona tomorrow and she happens to know you...for some reason...
Apr 04 23:32:02 <mircea_popescu>	seems unlikely.
Apr 04 23:32:14 <dub>	;;nethash
Apr 04 23:32:15 <gribble>	56918.28101
Apr 04 23:32:42 <ChaangNoi>	ltc still over $4 lol
Apr 04 23:32:44 <dub>	;;calc [nethash]*0.48
Apr 04 23:32:45 <gribble>	27320.7748848
Apr 04 23:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10369 @ 0.00070698 = 7.3307 BTC [-]
Apr 04 23:33:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i think AM might have some kind of balancer that moves hashes to oxcoin
Apr 04 23:33:38 <ThickAsThieves>	ozcoin*
Apr 04 23:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	I started with 0.1. I made it to 0.2 playing over a week and 200 transactions later. Then it went down to 0.04. Then I made it go back up to 0.2. After 400 transactions later, I lost it all in a do-or-die bet, the final bet was 0.04 or something like that.
Apr 04 23:34:06 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: they should be soloing ppcoin
Apr 04 23:34:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 139.90
Apr 04 23:34:28 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167215.msg1741392#msg1741392
Apr 04 23:34:28 <gribble>	There are currently 3545.7036 bitcoins offered at or under 139.9 USD, worth 489984.985767 USD in total. | Data vintage: 97.0218 seconds
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Apr 04 23:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	the instawallet was actually haxt
Apr 04 23:35:28 <dub>	instalollet was french?
Apr 04 23:36:11 <Bugpowder>	so that 14k BTC transaction was theirs or not?
Apr 04 23:37:25 <dub>	the duns were fully under their control
Apr 04 23:37:34 <dub>	funds*
Apr 04 23:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 04 23:38:28 <mircea_popescu>	well... i guess the 40k rthey moved was some panic attack.
Apr 04 23:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	but they had already lost some
Apr 04 23:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i dunno, davout is awol.
Apr 04 23:38:52 <mircea_popescu>	this is wrong with these people, they fuck up, they dissapear.
Apr 04 23:38:55 <mircea_popescu>	he should be here.
Apr 04 23:39:14 <dub>	they are french, they probably just handed over privkeys to the hackers
Apr 04 23:39:43 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 04 23:39:44 <gribble>	There are currently 31095190 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10470655.1418 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.9970 seconds
Apr 04 23:39:48 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Apr 04 23:39:52 <Bugpowder>	we are going up tonight
Apr 04 23:39:58 <Bugpowder>	get ready
Apr 04 23:44:35 <ChaangNoi>	my rocket is ready
Apr 04 23:44:55 <ChaangNoi>	hmm today is a friday
Apr 04 23:45:50 <Bugpowder>	yeah i know
Apr 04 23:46:02 <Bugpowder>	10.5
Apr 04 23:46:23 <Bugpowder>	the weekend dip happened before the weekend
Apr 04 23:48:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7697 BTC [-]
Apr 04 23:48:59 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 04 23:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder why be such a noob ?
Apr 04 23:49:14 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is a lot more than "quick profits" you know.
Apr 04 23:50:54 <Bugpowder>	I am happy to take a pause from rapid price gains on say... April 27th.
Apr 04 23:51:34 <Bugpowder>	At this point though, I've cashed enough out that I'm just gonna sit on the rest for a long time
Apr 04 23:51:45 <Bugpowder>	or actually use them in the economy
Apr 04 23:51:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 50 @ 0.0025 = 0.125 BTC [-]
Apr 04 23:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.449992 = 0.9 BTC [-]
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Apr 04 23:53:00 <mircea_popescu>	what's on april 27th
Apr 04 23:53:33 <Bugpowder>	options will have expired
Apr 04 23:53:38 <Bugpowder>	:-D
Apr 04 23:53:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7698 BTC [+]
Apr 04 23:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	o lol
Apr 05 00:00:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C062N] 10 @ 0.73421811 = 7.3422 BTC
Apr 05 00:07:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7698 BTC [+]
Apr 05 00:07:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7698 = 2.3094 BTC [+]
Apr 05 00:07:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.7699 = 15.398 BTC [+]
Apr 05 00:07:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.78 = 3.9 BTC [+]
Apr 05 00:08:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7829 = 2.3487 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 00:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.919 BTC [+]
Apr 05 00:20:27 <ThickAsThieves>	btc-e charging .5ltc to withdraw, that's like $2.20
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Apr 05 00:23:45 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 05 00:23:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.80001, Best ask: 136.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 136.00000, 24 hour volume: 70079.70788410, 24 hour low: 126.69058, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 133.76636
Apr 05 00:23:56 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 00:23:57 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.952282 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00190836246572 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 05 00:24:04 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 05 00:24:06 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 133.55
Apr 05 00:24:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009999 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Apr 05 00:24:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 616 @ 0.01 = 6.16 BTC [+]
Apr 05 00:24:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Apr 05 00:24:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 564 @ 0.01 = 5.64 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 00:31:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7829 = 3.9145 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 00:39:45 <Cryptrader>	Is there any channel good for discussing trading btc/ltc/nmc etc?
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Apr 05 00:40:54 <bgupta>	Don't know about a good channel, but you are in a channel. ;)
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Apr 05 00:42:57 <bgupta>	someone just bought like 3200 btc at the market
Apr 05 00:43:50 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 05 00:43:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.38456, Best ask: 137.98900, Bid-ask spread: 0.60444, Last trade: 137.38456, 24 hour volume: 72490.77444922, 24 hour low: 126.69058, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 134.00274
Apr 05 00:46:47 <jcpham>	http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bank-japan-scraps-overnight-call-051241190.html
Apr 05 00:51:37 <ThickAsThieves>	wait Japan is gonna double the amount of currency in two years, did i read that correctly?
Apr 05 00:52:17 <jcpham>	1.4 trillion in commited QE
Apr 05 00:52:31 <jcpham>	hold on to your seats
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Apr 05 00:56:24 <ThickAsThieves>	going to bed, i expect you guys to get btc up to 140 while i sleep
Apr 05 00:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00070686 = 3.1455 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 01:10:34 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 05 01:10:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.55406, Best ask: 136.83316, Bid-ask spread: 1.27910, Last trade: 135.55405, 24 hour volume: 71104.21539651, 24 hour low: 126.69058, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 134.14703
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Apr 05 01:14:07 <ChaangNoi>	im a goat!
Apr 05 01:18:14 <bgupta>	so is this Japan thing another sign that fiat is in trouble, and that btc is where we should be?
Apr 05 01:18:27 <B0g4r7>	yes pinky
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Apr 05 01:19:00 <bgupta>	so borrow Yen, and buy btc..
Apr 05 01:19:20 <bgupta>	(Not that I can really borrow Yen ATM..
Apr 05 01:19:21 <ChaangNoi>	japan??
Apr 05 01:19:32 <bgupta>	http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bank-japan-scraps-overnight-call-051241190.html
Apr 05 01:19:41 <B0g4r7>	why are they talking about Japan and dollars?
Apr 05 01:19:42 <denialdenial>	read it goat
Apr 05 01:19:49 <ChaangNoi>	reading, thanks
Apr 05 01:19:50 <denialdenial>	japan is fucked
Apr 05 01:19:59 <mod6>	seems that way
Apr 05 01:20:07 <B0g4r7>	japan has been fucked.
Apr 05 01:20:10 <bgupta>	no more fucked than EU, or USA for that matter
Apr 05 01:20:19 <taub>	they've been doing this for 30 years tho
Apr 05 01:20:24 <B0g4r7>	their debt:gdp ratio is far worse than that of the US, whose is terrible.
Apr 05 01:20:25 <denialdenial>	they're hurrying the end then
Apr 05 01:20:32 <B0g4r7>	So yea, far more fucked.
Apr 05 01:20:39 <B0g4r7>	By an order of magnitude I'd say.
Apr 05 01:20:49 <bgupta>	ok...
Apr 05 01:21:07 <denialdenial>	i heard AUD is trading against yuan directly soon too
Apr 05 01:21:17 <denialdenial>	no more of that pesky USD reserve
Apr 05 01:21:25 <B0g4r7>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt
Apr 05 01:21:28 <B0g4r7>	Look at Japan.
Apr 05 01:21:37 <B0g4r7>	OK, so not an order of magnitide, but still a lot more.
Apr 05 01:21:51 <ChaangNoi>	yeah japan was250%
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Apr 05 01:22:14 <ChaangNoi>	i bought a bunch of yen a while ago, made 20% in 2 years, sold it howevere
Apr 05 01:22:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [-]
Apr 05 01:22:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7689 = 1.5378 BTC [-]
Apr 05 01:22:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7689 = 2.3067 BTC [-]
Apr 05 01:22:26 <ChaangNoi>	but this really is what they have been doing forever
Apr 05 01:23:32 <denialdenial>	i was reading a reddit post comparing bitcoin to paypal earlier
Apr 05 01:23:55 <denialdenial>	the author reason we're on a $900+ dollar correction right now
Apr 05 01:24:01 <denialdenial>	for the next 60 days at least
Apr 05 01:24:09 <B0g4r7>	I think the only reason a lot of ppl use pp is because it made international payments easy.
Apr 05 01:24:12 <denialdenial>	it was pretty insightful
Apr 05 01:24:16 <denialdenial>	but it's reddit
Apr 05 01:24:19 <denialdenial>	so...
Apr 05 01:24:21 <B0g4r7>	Now bitcoin does that.
Apr 05 01:24:35 <B0g4r7>	Most all of the overseas suppliers I order from, they want paypal.
Apr 05 01:24:35 <bgupta>	How is that they are worse than greece but not as fucked as greece. Guessing cause they control their own currency.
Apr 05 01:25:07 <bgupta>	denialdenial: Link?
Apr 05 01:25:17 <denialdenial>	i would expect the japanese to at least make a trillion dollar samurai sword or something
Apr 05 01:25:54 <denialdenial>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bo02h/why_1000_in_60_days_a_paypal_comparison/
Apr 05 01:26:00 <denialdenial>	second page midways
Apr 05 01:26:09 <denialdenial>	/r/bitcoin
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Apr 05 01:28:59 <bgupta>	One catch in the theory.. proposited.. it assumes that people using btc for transfer will keep the btc in btc, and not immediately trade back to fiat..
Apr 05 01:29:21 <bgupta>	that said some of them will.
Apr 05 01:29:45 <bgupta>	so there is definately btc value growth trying to correct.
Apr 05 01:31:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Apr 05 01:31:34 <denialdenial>	i think so
Apr 05 01:31:38 <denialdenial>	too much too soon
Apr 05 01:31:46 <denialdenial>	maybe crash, probably not
Apr 05 01:32:17 <denialdenial>	distributing the load across the exchanges should prevent any actual crash
Apr 05 01:32:36 <bgupta>	I don't think so… if there were a crash, I think buyers would come out in droves..
Apr 05 01:32:53 <denialdenial>	the term crash is way overused
Apr 05 01:33:01 <bgupta>	I certainly would look to liquidate USD equities and move to btc.
Apr 05 01:33:02 <denialdenial>	i doubt will see JUly 2011 again ever
Apr 05 01:33:10 <denialdenial>	no more bitcoins for peenies
Apr 05 01:33:26 <denialdenial>	as long as any exchange stays operational they are going to cost you a lot of money
Apr 05 01:33:30 <denialdenial>	from now on
Apr 05 01:34:03 <Cryptrader>	If BTC becomes a true currency - as businesses slowly adopt it, you will have no reason to exchange them back for fiat
Apr 05 01:34:05 <taub>	i'm still half hoping the system wont collapse
Apr 05 01:34:13 <taub>	would be much better for everyone :(
Apr 05 01:34:13 <Cryptrader>	Or at least not everyone will
Apr 05 01:34:18 <denialdenial>	btcguild troubles me at the moment
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Apr 05 01:34:31 <bgupta>	taub: what do you mean by collapse?
Apr 05 01:34:50 <bgupta>	btcguild will self correct.
Apr 05 01:35:08 <denialdenial>	do you know what happened when btcguild updated their bitcoind last
Apr 05 01:35:15 <Cryptrader>	Does anyone know exactly (or close) how big the annual drug trade market is? IE if they all started using bitcoin...
Apr 05 01:35:18 <denialdenial>	i can tell you in case you don't know
Apr 05 01:35:25 <denialdenial>	this was before they has asicminer
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Apr 05 01:35:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070298 = 0.9139 BTC [-]
Apr 05 01:35:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00070297 = 4.0421 BTC [-]
Apr 05 01:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00069413 = 14.7156 BTC [-]
Apr 05 01:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2847 @ 0.00068964 = 1.9634 BTC [-]
Apr 05 01:35:47 <taub>	i dont think endless spending and money printing can go on forever
Apr 05 01:35:58 <bgupta>	I know silkroad does about $29 million per month
Apr 05 01:36:06 <bgupta>	but overall it's in billions
Apr 05 01:36:08 <denialdenial>	they updated their bitcoind on their pool but didn't let the db reindex first
Apr 05 01:36:19 <denialdenial>	so miners were being given low diff shares
Apr 05 01:36:25 <denialdenial>	until their wallet was empty
Apr 05 01:36:39 <denialdenial>	what happens if they have 51%, fuck up, fork the chain
Apr 05 01:36:43 <denialdenial>	hash a block
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Apr 05 01:36:53 <bgupta>	it would only shift if cartels wanted to keep their stashes in btc.. and I'm not so sure that would be a good thing for btc… IE: governments might use an excuse to outlaw
Apr 05 01:37:09 <denialdenial>	that's why btcguild worries me
Apr 05 01:37:51 <bgupta>	well, I suspect that miners will start moving to oz.
Apr 05 01:39:22 <bgupta>	SO for the sake of arguement… let's assume that btc goes up to 1000usd.. some in this channel think that would be horrible for the btc economy.. can some explain why?
Apr 05 01:39:46 <denialdenial>	i don't think the price matters anymore
Apr 05 01:39:47 <bgupta>	it seems arbitrary...
Apr 05 01:40:03 <taub>	i dont think anyone argues that it's horrible in general
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Apr 05 01:40:15 <taub>	mp seems more concerend about the rate it's increasing
Apr 05 01:40:38 <denialdenial>	the price is so high now that mentally the decimal places have already started moving
Apr 05 01:40:38 <bgupta>	on what grounds?
Apr 05 01:40:40 <taub>	ie he doesnt want it to be volatile or full of bubbles and crashes
Apr 05 01:40:46 <denialdenial>	so actual fungibility is being tested now
Apr 05 01:40:48 <taub>	because it scares people away
Apr 05 01:41:16 <denialdenial>	so i don't see how 1000 matters
Apr 05 01:41:19 <bgupta>	but the issue is if it is in fact worth more and trying to correct..
Apr 05 01:41:21 <denialdenial>	it's a nother decimal place
Apr 05 01:41:48 <denialdenial>	what's the visual and mental difference between .005 btc and .05 btc if they are fundamentally the same
Apr 05 01:41:52 <bgupta>	wouldn't it be better to get that correction out of the way and then let it try to stabialize?
Apr 05 01:42:24 <bgupta>	just throwing thoughts out there
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Apr 05 01:42:49 <denialdenial>	stabilize is sort of a funny word to use
Apr 05 01:42:52 <bgupta>	personally I kinda wish btc would stay really low so I can buy more..
Apr 05 01:42:58 <taub>	sure, bubbles have to be corrected
Apr 05 01:43:02 <denialdenial>	how do you stabilize a queue of 10,000 people wanting to buy something
Apr 05 01:43:07 <taub>	the thought is not to have bubble like growth to begin with
Apr 05 01:43:08 <denialdenial>	more exchanges
Apr 05 01:43:14 <denialdenial>	more everything
Apr 05 01:43:17 <denialdenial>	that takes time
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Apr 05 01:43:25 <bgupta>	why does more exchanges help?
Apr 05 01:43:27 <denialdenial>	so expect one hell of a volatile ride
Apr 05 01:43:41 <denialdenial>	because gox is asingle point of failure and it can't handle the load
Apr 05 01:43:44 <denialdenial>	obviously
Apr 05 01:43:49 <denialdenial>	they've said so themselves
Apr 05 01:44:05 <bgupta>	well.. they've said they can't handle ddos attacks
Apr 05 01:44:11 <denialdenial>	there's needs to be 10x the number of operating exchanges there are now
Apr 05 01:44:19 <denialdenial>	to handle the influx of users
Apr 05 01:44:27 <denialdenial>	to stabilize the volatility
Apr 05 01:44:29 <denialdenial>	not he price
Apr 05 01:44:43 <bgupta>	if you spread out to ten exchanges they'd all be semi-illiquid
Apr 05 01:44:44 <denialdenial>	the price is going to do what the exchanges allow it to do
Apr 05 01:44:52 <denialdenial>	the volatility comes from the stops/starts
Apr 05 01:44:54 <denialdenial>	and emotions
Apr 05 01:44:59 <bgupta>	I don't think we need to exchanges. perhaps more money changers
Apr 05 01:45:21 <bgupta>	more retail
Apr 05 01:45:32 <bgupta>	more retail money exchangers
Apr 05 01:45:40 <bgupta>	that keep their own supplies
Apr 05 01:45:59 <bgupta>	they would go to a handful of exchanges for trade..
Apr 05 01:46:02 <denialdenial>	all of these things feed off each other. what hasn't kept up is the supply
Apr 05 01:46:11 <denialdenial>	or dealers, exchanges
Apr 05 01:46:16 <bgupta>	btc supply?
Apr 05 01:46:28 <bgupta>	of course not, that's baked into the system
Apr 05 01:46:31 <denialdenial>	the supply to "the market"
Apr 05 01:46:48 <denialdenial>	whether that market is real or artificial doesn't matter
Apr 05 01:46:55 <denialdenial>	but until recently it was gox
Apr 05 01:47:02 <denialdenial>	and now it can't be gox alone anymore
Apr 05 01:47:16 <bgupta>	ah the supply of btc.. well with it going up people are reluctant to sell.. and many people will never sell..
Apr 05 01:47:47 <denialdenial>	the exchanges create the market or better the illusion of the market
Apr 05 01:47:51 <bgupta>	IE: They have moved to btc
Apr 05 01:47:55 <denialdenial>	because money is an illusion
Apr 05 01:48:32 <denialdenial>	a poorly represented market performs poorly
Apr 05 01:48:59 <bgupta>	wall street proper will invest in exchanges at some point.. IE: old financial houses.
Apr 05 01:49:18 <denialdenial>	the oldest con in the book is to invent a problem and then sell the solution to it
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Apr 05 01:49:28 <denialdenial>	bit coin didn't invent the problem and it sells itself
Apr 05 01:50:00 <denialdenial>	need more exchanges providing the illusion of stability
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Apr 05 01:50:06 <denialdenial>	and thus a stabler market
Apr 05 01:50:25 <denialdenial>	mor people, more exchanges, higher price
Apr 05 01:50:52 <denialdenial>	</atlas>
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Apr 05 02:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00068871 = 13.7742 BTC [-]
Apr 05 02:03:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4273 @ 0.00068871 = 2.9429 BTC [-]
Apr 05 02:11:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00068762 = 0.8939 BTC [-]
Apr 05 02:12:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2178 @ 0.00068761 = 1.4976 BTC [-]
Apr 05 02:12:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00068575 = 5.486 BTC [-]
Apr 05 02:12:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00068518 = 6.4407 BTC [-]
Apr 05 02:12:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8322 @ 0.00068444 = 5.6959 BTC [-]
Apr 05 02:12:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15788 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 02:25:27 <bgupta>	SO was thinking about the exchange problem… what if Morgan or Goldman bought half a million bitcoins and issued an ETF and let it trade on a standard stock exchange… It would kinda solve some problems, while creating new ones.
Apr 05 02:26:10 <bgupta>	the question is how could they acquire enough btc to do it without messing up the market.
Apr 05 02:36:15 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 05 02:36:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.29992, Best ask: 136.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50008, Last trade: 136.29992, 24 hour volume: 67541.53345295, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 134.40464
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Apr 05 02:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.3381 = 2.7048 BTC [+]
Apr 05 02:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.33811 = 6.7622 BTC [+]
Apr 05 02:46:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.339 = 6.78 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 02:53:16 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 05 02:53:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.00001, Best ask: 136.69499, Bid-ask spread: 0.69498, Last trade: 136.69499, 24 hour volume: 67318.91118458, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 134.42469
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Apr 05 03:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.3391 = 9.1557 BTC [+]
Apr 05 03:08:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00068603 = 1.9552 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 03:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	hickAsThieves> going to bed, i expect you guys to get btc up to 140 while i sleep << and yet it's exactly 133
Apr 05 03:22:48 <mircea_popescu>	<taub> they've been doing this for 30 years tho << ya. but 30 years ago they had a productivr workforce. now they got suicidal teens and otaku young adults
Apr 05 03:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta> SO for the sake of arguement… let's assume that btc goes up to 1000usd.. some in this channel think that would be horrible for the btc economy.. can some explain why? << read http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/its-been-an-epic-few-days-what-happened/ towards the middle
Apr 05 03:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	it explains what's the problem
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Apr 05 03:29:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27550 @ 0.00068603 = 18.9001 BTC [+]
Apr 05 03:29:08 <bgupta>	You are claiming there was no DDOS on mtgox, and that it had no impact on price?
Apr 05 03:29:19 <bgupta>	Or am I misreading..
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Apr 05 03:29:36 <bgupta>	sounds like you are claiming sole responsibility for stopping rally
Apr 05 03:29:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 19 @ 0.0045 = 0.0855 BTC [+]
Apr 05 03:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	mk let me find that other one
Apr 05 03:30:02 <bgupta>	and that mtgox crashed under the load of people selling?
Apr 05 03:30:18 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 05 03:30:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 406 @ 0.00313722 = 1.2737 BTC [-]
Apr 05 03:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's actually what happened.
Apr 05 03:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	Apr 05 06:06:48 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, did you do a hacker bat signal to ddos mtgox on the rally to 147?
Apr 05 03:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	Apr 05 06:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://pastebin.com/4SUXv67h
Apr 05 03:31:19 <mircea_popescu>	that re the ddos.
Apr 05 03:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136498390721.png that re the bubble deflation.
Apr 05 03:31:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7829 BTC [+]
Apr 05 03:32:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7829 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 03:37:04 <bitcoin-assets>	;; ticker
Apr 05 03:37:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.00001, Best ask: 136.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 136.60000, 24 hour volume: 67059.71450567, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 134.51139
Apr 05 03:38:23 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: http://www.bitcoinrumors.com/2013/04/04/mtgox-announcement-on-ddos-attack/
Apr 05 03:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	what about that ?
Apr 05 03:39:23 <bgupta>	historically mtgox has been pretty transparant about owning up to their problems
Apr 05 03:39:38 <bgupta>	(After the fact)
Apr 05 03:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	this is exactly opposite to reality, for one.
Apr 05 03:39:57 <bgupta>	You are basically saying they are now lying to the world.
Apr 05 03:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	for the other, whats some random site trying to leech hits by republishing random content to dow ith anything ?
Apr 05 03:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	they have an excellent history of lieing.
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Apr 05 03:40:39 <bgupta>	They were very transparent about their screwups leading to the theft of a large amount of btc.
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Apr 05 03:41:26 <bgupta>	and what they were doing to mitigate the issue
Apr 05 03:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157360.msg1670345#msg1670345 a fine example
Apr 05 03:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	they are of the persuasion that pr is bullshit & lieing as much as possibkle.
Apr 05 03:42:11 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta they were not transparent about either. they are not transparent now either. i have no idea what you are talking about.
Apr 05 03:42:19 <mircea_popescu>	when mpex reported a ddos there was transparency.
Apr 05 03:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	when mtgox hinted to a dddos there's nothing but pr fluff.
Apr 05 03:44:15 <bgupta>	"I won't bother to compile the endless list of proof to show you just lied" Why not?
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Apr 05 03:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	i guess she's lazy
Apr 05 03:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	also we're not quite prepared for serving new people, what i'm saying here is common knowledge among "us".
Apr 05 03:45:35 <bgupta>	Your evidence that they lied is a post from you claiming that they lied.. oh, mpoe-pr isn't you?
Apr 05 03:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not saying this to exclude you, just saying, this is all very banal crap
Apr 05 03:45:54 <mircea_popescu>	are you following the forum at all ?
Apr 05 03:46:29 <bgupta>	For some reason I thought that it was you… since you are always linking to posts by said avatar.
Apr 05 03:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	she's my forum pr.
Apr 05 03:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	but if you're curious, do a search for mtgox, see what turns up.
Apr 05 03:47:37 <mircea_popescu>	look for that classic piece on the part of inaba where he's been dicked around for months over 20k
Apr 05 03:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	or for that piece where some new guy was complaining about mtgox telling him that his funds are locked and "they'll get in touch with the developers" to fix it.
Apr 05 03:48:56 <bgupta>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157360.msg1666644;topicseen#msg1666644 claims satisfaction rates of 90-95% which means that unsatisfaction rates are 5-10%
Apr 05 03:49:07 <bgupta>	which isn't really something to brag about
Apr 05 03:49:12 <bgupta>	but they are
Apr 05 03:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	we are not discussing "satisfaction rate"
Apr 05 03:49:41 <mircea_popescu>	we are discussing that mpex handles everything within the same day, and to counter this tux claiomed they do it in 20 minutes.
Apr 05 03:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	except the forum is replete with cases they do no such thing.
Apr 05 03:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	which makes him a liar (again, for that matter, no big deal, it's banal by now)
Apr 05 03:51:07 <bgupta>	they didn't say everything.. they said most.. my take is if they handle more than 50% in 20 minutes… that means that statement is correct.. the rest could take weeks/months.
Apr 05 03:52:07 <bgupta>	I don't yet see evidence of outright lying.
Apr 05 03:52:24 <mircea_popescu>	tyhat is not what he said.
Apr 05 03:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	what he said was : "Most open tickets have a resolution within 20 minutes. Remaining cases are when there is not enough information, or when issues are not simple user-specific issues (or linked to an outage)."
Apr 05 03:52:54 <mircea_popescu>	This means that ALL tickets that are properly spelled out and affect a single user are handledwithin 20 mintes.
Apr 05 03:53:15 <mircea_popescu>	it also means that the ONLY cases where a ticker takes over 20 minutes is when either a. there's no info or b. there's an outage and the ticket relates to the outage.
Apr 05 03:53:22 <mircea_popescu>	reading is very important as a skill.
Apr 05 03:54:22 <bgupta>	well. I'd be curious to know what they mean by "simple user-specific issues" IE: Does that preclude "complicated user-specific issues"?
Apr 05 03:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 05 03:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	what i mean is : they are NOT transparent.
Apr 05 03:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	they're horrible communicators, with a long history of such incompetence.
Apr 05 03:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	that people in general read crap like their recent release and think something was said is a property of large crowds of people.
Apr 05 03:55:29 <mircea_popescu>	nothing more.
Apr 05 03:55:35 <bgupta>	I don't read "when issues are not simple user-specific issues (or linked to an outage)" as "when issues are not simple user-specific issues that are linked to an outage"
Apr 05 03:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	again, that's not what i said.
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Apr 05 03:56:08 <mircea_popescu>	it also means that the ONLY cases where a ticker takes over 20 minutes is when either a. there's no info or b. there's an outage and the ticket relates to the outage.
Apr 05 03:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	or is an or.
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Apr 05 03:56:37 <bgupta>	well, their PR matched my read on the situation, as a number of btc sites where were being hammered at that time.
Apr 05 03:57:11 <mircea_popescu>	for a while.
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Apr 05 03:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/boys-and-girls-i-got-news-were-being-probed/
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Apr 05 03:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	this was being discussed two weeks ago.
Apr 05 03:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	and they are still being useless. not saying anything concrete about the ddos
Apr 05 03:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	makes them either dumb or pointless in this context.
Apr 05 03:58:12 <bgupta>	I'm reading it as we take care of simple issues in 20 minutes… complex issues or outage related issues exluded.
Apr 05 03:58:27 <bgupta>	let's see if they will.. what do you want to know?
Apr 05 03:58:42 <mircea_popescu>	the list is in the article above.
Apr 05 03:59:11 <mircea_popescu>	it says specifically what i wish from a service that aspires to be halpful.
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Apr 05 04:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	then again i guess that's asking a little much, they probably don't have the technical ability to do anything other than read tickets from their host.
Apr 05 04:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	so they wouldn't kniow what to say anyway.
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Apr 05 04:09:44 <bgupta>	I think that they are at a scale that they are using "helpdesk staff" that are largely following scripts.
Apr 05 04:10:07 <bgupta>	If it fits in script they can reply within 20 mins, if not it needs to be escalated
Apr 05 04:10:26 <bgupta>	(Saying this because I have worked in customer service orgs in the past.
Apr 05 04:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	i know they have.
Apr 05 04:11:16 <bgupta>	(I was third level support, and it generally took a long time to get to my desk, and if it did it wasn't trivial to solve.
Apr 05 04:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	but that doesn't give them license to lie about it.
Apr 05 04:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	when i say you suck and mpex owns you, he says "this is true"
Apr 05 04:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	that's telling the truth.
Apr 05 04:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	wehn he comes back wityh "no we're better" he's getting the bitchslap.
Apr 05 04:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	seems logical to me.
Apr 05 04:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	obviously he doesn't have a prayer in hell to compete seeing how he handles < 1k and i do over 1k. of course my service would be better.
Apr 05 04:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	nevertheless... it is what it is.
Apr 05 04:13:16 <bgupta>	well it depends on what your criteria of comparison is… If a pretty site is the criteria, they win.. if never having been hacked is the criteria you win. It's not balck or white.
Apr 05 04:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Apr 05 04:13:43 <bgupta>	there are many other ways to measure.. those were just two examples.
Apr 05 04:13:44 <mircea_popescu>	the criteria is having customers serviced within the day
Apr 05 04:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	as the post delineated it
Apr 05 04:13:52 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea why this is so difficult.
Apr 05 04:16:47 <bgupta>	You guys don't even directly compete, so that makes comparison even harder. Anyway this is turning into a bit of a rathole.. IE: we are probably not going to change each others opinions.
Apr 05 04:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	well, the thing is, i'm really uninterested in oppinions. i am stating facts.
Apr 05 04:17:39 <mircea_popescu>	unlike oppinions, facts are verifiable.
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Apr 05 04:22:26 <bgupta>	So are the bot algos relatively public? Trying to understand why some spreads are so wide and others aren't? Or are the less tight spreads situations were there is a human counterparties on the book?
Apr 05 04:22:34 <bgupta>	bbiab
Apr 05 04:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	if you mean mpoe bot absolutely not public at all.
Apr 05 04:28:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.77 = 6.16 BTC [-]
Apr 05 04:28:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [-]
Apr 05 04:28:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [-]
Apr 05 04:29:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7689 BTC [-]
Apr 05 04:29:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.7671 = 15.342 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 05:20:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Apr 05 05:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.365 = 9.125 BTC [+]
Apr 05 05:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.365 = 5.475 BTC [+]
Apr 05 05:22:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0045 BTC [+]
Apr 05 05:24:30 <dub>	;;ticker
Apr 05 05:24:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.50339, Best ask: 137.99979, Bid-ask spread: 0.49640, Last trade: 137.99979, 24 hour volume: 67917.79154725, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 134.97076
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Apr 05 05:44:18 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 05:44:19 <gribble>	There are currently 31105962 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10993520.0394 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.9189 seconds
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Apr 05 05:55:48 <bgupta>	what's the deal with this? http://coinlab.com/press I seem to still be able to directly access my mtgox account?
Apr 05 05:55:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7501 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 06:00:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 06:04:08 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 06:04:09 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.270389 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000541856528574 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
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Apr 05 06:16:54 <jurov>	bgupta: seems no deal so far, at all
Apr 05 06:17:16 <KRS1337>	wtf is up with LTC price
Apr 05 06:17:18 <jurov>	they announced just move of "biggest account"
Apr 05 06:17:34 <bgupta>	links?
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Apr 05 06:19:16 <KRS1337>	does this mean its done?
Apr 05 06:19:24 <jurov>	bgupta:  http://coinlab.com/status
Apr 05 06:20:20 <jurov>	KRS1337: imho just more people like me pulled out some ltcs from socks
Apr 05 06:20:25 <bgupta>	seems at some point it will come mandatory?
Apr 05 06:20:53 <KRS1337>	dont understand
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Apr 05 06:21:21 <jurov>	KRS1337: i had quite a few ltcs  bought year ago stashed at various places
Apr 05 06:21:26 <jurov>	and recently sold some
Apr 05 06:21:30 <bgupta>	KRS1337: What is your question? IE: WHo are you talking to?
Apr 05 06:21:38 <KRS1337>	jurov
Apr 05 06:21:42 <jurov>	so more ppl did the same, i guess
Apr 05 06:21:50 <bgupta>	so jurov you aren't gonna wait to see if mtgox wil follow through?
Apr 05 06:21:59 <KRS1337>	so the ltcs at BTC-e are worthless, but tthe ltc's at another exchange arent?
Apr 05 06:22:15 <jurov>	bgupta, just get rid off mtgox completely. fortunately i'm not american, just following
Apr 05 06:22:44 <KRS1337>	will I lose my btc investment too soon? wtf is going on
Apr 05 06:22:51 <KRS1337>	great friday morning i woke up to
Apr 05 06:22:57 <jurov>	imho coinlab hit some major snags with these alphas, hence no update
Apr 05 06:23:06 <bgupta>	ltc had rally on mtgox rumor/pseudo-news.. (that mtgox was gonna trade ltc)
Apr 05 06:23:06 <jurov>	KRS1337: what???
Apr 05 06:23:22 <bgupta>	jurov, where else can I trade btc with liqudity
Apr 05 06:23:52 <jurov>	bgupta, trade mpex stocks instead :D
Apr 05 06:24:05 <KRS1337>	jurov: idk..i see ltc tanking then i hear get away from gox..idk what to do
Apr 05 06:24:15 <jurov>	and if you absolutely must trade btcusd, bitfloor seems to be rising.
Apr 05 06:24:55 <KRS1337>	so i can probably transfer them to another exchange? I see people on btc-e losing their asses
Apr 05 06:24:58 <KRS1337>	on ltc
Apr 05 06:25:05 <bgupta>	am trading AM but not trading on MPOE yet.
Apr 05 06:25:07 <jurov>	KRS1337: just inform yourself at recent mtgox happenings. they are just seriously inept.
Apr 05 06:25:15 <jurov>	and i never said anything about btc-e!!!
Apr 05 06:25:50 <KRS1337>	i know..its just me
Apr 05 06:26:07 <bgupta>	KRS1337: Dude ltc hit an all time high on btc-e based on rumos that mtgox is gonna start allowing ltc trading there..
Apr 05 06:26:34 <jurov>	that's bs, it went up before that announcement
Apr 05 06:26:36 <bgupta>	it's pulled back quite a bit as people who bought ltc at very low prices are taking profits
Apr 05 06:26:45 <KRS1337>	its all in the red
Apr 05 06:26:50 <KRS1337>	low $3?
Apr 05 06:28:43 <jurov>	i'm not going to predict anything. just don't panic and wait it out
Apr 05 06:28:57 <KRS1337>	hmmm maybe i can buy a ton right now
Apr 05 06:29:09 <KRS1337>	but when it slows down
Apr 05 06:29:31 <jurov>	it is possible ltc will get more attractive since btc starts to be unusable for micropayments. or maybe not.
Apr 05 06:32:09 <bgupta>	KRS-1: it was below $.10 not that long ago..
Apr 05 06:32:57 <bgupta>	KRS1337: to [ut it in perspective http://www.ltc-charts.com/period-charts.php?period=3-months&resolution=day&pair=ltc-btc&market=btc-e
Apr 05 06:33:29 <bgupta>	look at the chart and relax
Apr 05 06:33:41 <KRS1337>	mk
Apr 05 06:33:53 <bgupta>	it's way more volitile than btc at the moment
Apr 05 06:34:27 <KRS1337>	ya thats a good thing..i have no long term interest in ltc..just wanted to throw a buch down right quick but did not expect this
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Apr 05 06:34:53 <bgupta>	buy or sell?
Apr 05 06:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	what, ltc bubble popping ?
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Apr 05 06:37:06 <KRS1337>	yeh looks like value gone way done
Apr 05 06:37:11 <KRS1337>	down
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Apr 05 06:39:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070684 = 0.9189 BTC [+]
Apr 05 06:39:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070685 = 0.9189 BTC [+]
Apr 05 06:39:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00070686 = 2.4033 BTC [+]
Apr 05 06:41:07 <bgupta>	if ltc moves to mtgox it will get some liquidity… can't say that will neccesarily help the price but it should be eaasier than btc-e
Apr 05 06:42:35 <joeykrim>	mircea_popescu, talked last night with kakobrekla who recommended i ask you .. ive been putting in bets on bitbet.us and was wondering if you had any insight on why some get rejected?
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Apr 05 06:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	well, have you looked at the faq any ?
Apr 05 06:42:55 <joeykrim>	wanted to refine my approach to help save us both time and put in better bet suggestions hah
Apr 05 06:43:03 <mircea_popescu>	this is a merituous approach.
Apr 05 06:43:04 <joeykrim>	read the faq, stay away from bad bets, something i would bet on
Apr 05 06:43:17 <mircea_popescu>	right. pm some examples then
Apr 05 06:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1337 maybe you're confusing price and value ?
Apr 05 06:43:35 <joeykrim>	can i pm you the address ive been using?
Apr 05 06:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much the one use of ltc that i can see atm is to play ponzi. do you see another ?
Apr 05 06:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	joeykrim sure that works.
Apr 05 06:44:00 <joeykrim>	sent thx
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Apr 05 06:48:58 <KRS1337>	yes mircea popescu i am
Apr 05 06:49:03 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Arguably one could have said the same about btc 3 years ago… IE: Many claimed btc was a big ponzi scheme that created value out of nothing.. I'm not convinced but there may be value in having more than one cc.
Apr 05 06:49:26 <KRS1337>	maybe.. bgupta i think about that
Apr 05 06:50:06 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta this is a broken argument.
Apr 05 06:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	at the time people were saying that about btc 1. btc was unique and 2. they were being ignorant.
Apr 05 06:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	at the time i'm saying this about ltc, 1. ltc is a copy of btc with no actual advantage and 2. i'm not ignorant.
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Apr 05 06:53:18 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 05 06:53:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.56113, Best ask: 136.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.33887, Last trade: 136.90000, 24 hour volume: 68876.63929509, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 135.14460
Apr 05 06:53:23 <deadweasel>	morning all
Apr 05 06:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	hya
Apr 05 06:55:47 <MJR_>	;;bc,24hbrc
Apr 05 06:55:48 <gribble>	Error: "bc,24hbrc" is not a valid command.
Apr 05 06:55:52 <MJR_>	hi all
Apr 05 06:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	ello
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Apr 05 06:58:11 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 05 06:58:12 <gribble>	134.80
Apr 05 06:58:50 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 06:58:51 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.702306 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00140741336059 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 05 06:58:57 <MJR_>	;;ticker
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Apr 05 06:58:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.50000, Best ask: 136.99899, Bid-ask spread: 0.49899, Last trade: 136.50000, 24 hour volume: 69060.31474902, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 135.14890
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Apr 05 06:59:36 <MJR_>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 06:59:39 <gribble>	There are currently 31113948 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11041719.7415 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds
Apr 05 07:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	o look, 11 mn
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Apr 05 07:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	https://self-evident.org/?p=993
Apr 05 07:08:51 <mircea_popescu>	whoever is writing that please get better colors.
Apr 05 07:10:04 <KRS1337>	if I want to sell btc but gox is lagging really bad does that mean i get a really bad market price or my sell orders might not go through?
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Apr 05 07:10:42 <bgupta>	umm it means that you need to read what the difference is between a market order and a limit order
Apr 05 07:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	KRS-1 use limit orders i guess
Apr 05 07:11:32 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 05 07:11:47 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 07:11:48 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 15.922054 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0319076179438 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
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Apr 05 07:13:01 <KRS1337>	ok thanks
Apr 05 07:13:19 <KRS1337>	I appreciate your insight
Apr 05 07:13:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 05 07:14:02 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229785 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 38 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 hours, 30 minutes, and 51 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7687054.9986 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.80368
Apr 05 07:14:24 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 05 07:14:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.50000, Best ask: 137.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.49900, Last trade: 137.99999, 24 hour volume: 69290.11482755, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 135.16736
Apr 05 07:14:28 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 07:14:30 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.238126 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00248119064125 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 05 07:14:47 <KRS1337>	yes- limit order that is what i meant about my sell order not going through- market price is lower than my selling price at that moment, but my view to the actual market price is obscure
Apr 05 07:15:10 <KRS1337>	this can cause a major sell mentality with people
Apr 05 07:15:29 <KRS1337>	people are lemmings for the most part
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Apr 05 07:17:29 <KRS1>	im not sure cloudflare KNOWS how to protect against dos, they just seem to put up a maint page if it gets too bad
Apr 05 07:18:20 <Scrat>	KRS1 they actually do and it's great value for price, but not very secure
Apr 05 07:18:26 <Scrat>	they MITM all your traffic
Apr 05 07:18:43 <KRS1>	yet when it gets too bad, it goes to their "offline" page
Apr 05 07:18:50 <mircea_popescu>	scrat has it.
Apr 05 07:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	its consumer doohickey, great for if your ex's nephew is ddosing your cooking blog
Apr 05 07:19:12 <KRS1>	right..
Apr 05 07:19:14 <joeykrim>	KRS1, i think you might only see that in one specific region until they re-route to another region
Apr 05 07:19:24 <KRS1>	that could be-yes
Apr 05 07:19:31 <KRS1>	or their customers are just not big enough??
Apr 05 07:19:46 <KRS1>	big $ demands moar pipe?
Apr 05 07:20:38 <KRS1>	reminds me of back in the day with foonet mafia..its been a while.
Apr 05 07:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	all these idiots thinking they're "journalists"
Apr 05 07:24:00 <mircea_popescu>	it boggles the mind.
Apr 05 07:27:30 <KRS1>	lol someones about to buy 3900 namecoins for 30 btc
Apr 05 07:28:04 <Scrat>	today's fuckup: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bq2p8/coinbase_publishes_your_name_and_email_publicly/c98yibg
Apr 05 07:28:08 <mircea_popescu>	what those are a dollar too ?
Apr 05 07:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	bwahaha o gawd.
Apr 05 07:28:17 <Scrat>	sorry for incoming paste
Apr 05 07:28:23 <Scrat>	[14:22] <sydna> http://www.facebook.com/harley.skyberg?ref=ts&fref=ts
Apr 05 07:28:23 <Scrat>	[14:22] <sydna> bought
Apr 05 07:28:23 <Scrat>	[14:22] <sydna> https://coinbase.com/checkouts/dd24f66b49e34b97d2bbe0e3a9a2eeb4
Apr 05 07:28:23 <Scrat>	[14:22] <sydna> 229BTC worth of a drug called ""AVALANCHE SPA POWDER"" - ie. the kind of quantity the feds might be interested in.
Apr 05 07:28:23 <Scrat>	[14:22] <sydna> coinbase just ruined somebodies life
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Apr 05 07:28:42 <cads>	hey mircea_popescu , ce faci?
Apr 05 07:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	bine
Apr 05 07:29:04 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Apr 05 07:29:23 <KRS1>	they should just give me the 30 btc instead of buying namecoins, at least i'll talk dirty to them or something
Apr 05 07:29:40 <cads>	heeh
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Apr 05 07:30:47 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat i bet the forum will be full of people saying "thank you mpoe-pr for warning us not to trust these muppets a month ago"
Apr 05 07:31:07 <Scrat>	who the fuck is mpoe-pr, isn't that you?
Apr 05 07:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	my pr.
Apr 05 07:31:15 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 05 07:31:36 <Bugpowder>	Bids now > $11.1MM
Apr 05 07:31:47 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder and yet the price is going nowehre.
Apr 05 07:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	so it wasn't gox doing it, it's not related to the dollars on the exhange, running out of theories here.
Apr 05 07:33:01 <KRS1>	haha scrat
Apr 05 07:35:11 <saulimus>	Bugpowder, yes, at those prices they bid at.
Apr 05 07:35:42 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I have a help request and project proposal for you.
Apr 05 07:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	shoot.
Apr 05 07:36:13 <cads>	mircea_popescu: this summer I will work towards implementing a marketplace for  BTC <-> LTC futures.
Apr 05 07:36:18 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2005/02/04/ddos.html btw
Apr 05 07:36:29 <cads>	mircea_popescu: Is that the kind of project that you would be interested in mentoring?
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Apr 05 07:36:45 <mircea_popescu>	are you hiring a consultant ?
Apr 05 07:37:22 <cads>	No, I intend to do all the research and coding myself - API + engine. The web front end will be done by friends.
Apr 05 07:37:23 <KRS1>	mircea popescu: yeah there was a lot of publicity on that..I'm good friends with the guy who caused it..it seems homeland security was on the same network he was killing for 3 weeks
Apr 05 07:37:31 <KRS1>	so they paid him a visit..
Apr 05 07:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	link is to charges dismissed.
Apr 05 07:37:50 <mircea_popescu>	cads aha ok.
Apr 05 07:37:54 <KRS1>	noooo he went to prison..
Apr 05 07:38:02 <KRS1>	the thing is..his company was getting DDoS'd and he was hitting them back, but 10X harder
Apr 05 07:38:18 <KRS1>	it was a big fiasco and admittedly exciting back then
Apr 05 07:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	but...
Apr 05 07:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	the link...
Apr 05 07:39:18 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I would not be able to pay you for your time. I would want to talk to you about high level architecture and implementation details.
Apr 05 07:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	well, whatever you get away with leeching in public chan then i guess.
Apr 05 07:39:57 <KRS1>	yeah the link..i really can't explain it..i had to wait for Paul to get out, he told me about it..sucked..he did time.
Apr 05 07:39:59 <cads>	mircea_popescu: barring any formal mentorship/student relationship, I would like at least to ask you basic questions over the next few months.
Apr 05 07:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	finance consulting is finance consulting, more expensive than hiring a lawyer,
Apr 05 07:40:13 <mircea_popescu>	which is more expensive than going to the dentist
Apr 05 07:41:06 <cads>	I agree. I would be asking essentially for 'gratis' financial consulting. Not a winning proposition for you by any means.
Apr 05 07:41:22 <bitesak>	sounds like a great idea
Apr 05 07:41:37 <mircea_popescu>	prolly needs a better model.
Apr 05 07:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	in general this "i shall put together found items in the hope of constructing something of value" works fine if what you're doing is art projects in highschool.
Apr 05 07:42:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i think mp is saying you dont have to ask to ask, and he doesnt have to answer
Apr 05 07:42:12 <cads>	I in turn have some wonky ideas. I want to build the core engine in haskell. I want to release the software for free. I'd like to help run the exchange, but I do not wish to be paid for it.
Apr 05 07:42:24 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes, that, plus, you can't sanely rely on the end result working.
Apr 05 07:43:09 <cads>	mircea_popescu: this is part of what I consider my "free work". Some people do a finance internship. I will build an exchange.
Apr 05 07:43:35 <Scrat>	cads: haskell would be a bad idea. only a few people in the world would be able to read it
Apr 05 07:43:58 <cads>	"free work", of course, is not work I do for free, but work I do to increase my public reputation in ways beyond what normal allowances of authority would give.
Apr 05 07:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.445 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 07:44:08 <KRS1>	lol haskell
Apr 05 07:44:17 <MJR_>	hey, haskell is kinda cool
Apr 05 07:44:31 <Scrat>	try erlang
Apr 05 07:44:34 <MJR_>	someone was trying to port bitcoin-qt to haskell
Apr 05 07:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	cads yeah well, most people don't dop internships on opm
Apr 05 07:45:18 <mircea_popescu>	so the most reasonable thing to do is set a clear sum of your own pocket aside as guarantee (10 btc, .5 btc, w/e)
Apr 05 07:45:22 <mircea_popescu>	and limit trades to that.
Apr 05 07:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	and put a plain warning in the about file, this is what this is.
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Apr 05 07:45:49 <cads>	Scrat: I agree writing the code in haskell would make the software obscure. However I know a number of derivatives design and valuation packages that run in haskell. Haskell has great support for financial contracts.
Apr 05 07:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	as long as you're learning you can use anything you want.
Apr 05 07:46:17 <mircea_popescu>	use fortran
Apr 05 07:46:19 <cads>	Speculatively, haskell provides a direct path for producing code that is verified mathematically correct
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Apr 05 07:46:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 05 07:46:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.47700, Best ask: 138.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02300, Last trade: 138.50000, 24 hour volume: 68834.52654232, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 135.21438
Apr 05 07:47:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 139.94
Apr 05 07:47:07 <gribble>	There are currently 1842.3181 bitcoins offered at or under 139.94 USD, worth 256753.041292 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
Apr 05 07:47:08 <cads>	only languages that are harder to use than haskell offer this feature. Language such as Agda II, Cayenne, bitc, or Coq.
Apr 05 07:47:17 <cads>	and yes, I said Coq :P
Apr 05 07:47:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 135
Apr 05 07:47:20 <gribble>	There are currently 2698.3713 bitcoins demanded at or over 135.0 USD, worth 365396.597563 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.2939 seconds
Apr 05 07:48:29 <bitesak>	;;asks 149
Apr 05 07:48:29 <gribble>	There are currently 17923.011 bitcoins offered at or under 149.0 USD, worth 2583454.10924 USD in total. | Data vintage: 82.4161 seconds
Apr 05 07:50:08 <KRS1>	there it goes 3224 namecoins for 24 btc
Apr 05 07:50:09 <KRS1>	lol
Apr 05 07:52:07 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I am a mathematician, not a coder, so I don't expect this project to succeed without some serious help. I have the whole #haskell community. I have 5 years of haskell. I can use ruby, python, php etc for frontend. I will rework my ideas on attribution and profit share (it may be best to arrange that I profit financially from a successful completion). Will this be a project you can provide moral support to?
Apr 05 07:53:05 <cads>	mircea_popescu: aside from moral support and guidance, I will ask questions about how the mpex was implemented.
Apr 05 07:53:47 <cads>	This is all. I do not expect more than an hour each week of interspersed conversation. About as much as we've talked already, in fact.
Apr 05 07:54:42 <cads>	in fact, I think I'm happy with your proposed offering of whatever I can pick up in here.
Apr 05 07:55:11 <MJR_>	could he use a non-turing complete forth-like scripting language?
Apr 05 07:55:14 <MJR_>	jk
Apr 05 07:56:00 <cads>	eventually when I can model arbitrary contracts, they will be implemented as a non-turing complete contract-composition syntax
Apr 05 07:56:59 <cads>	MJR, I will be following the classical "Composing Contracts" paper: http://contracts.scheming.org/
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Apr 05 07:57:53 <MJR_>	kewl
Apr 05 07:58:26 <MJR_>	i was just drawing a parallel to the scripting aspect of bitcoin transactions
Apr 05 07:58:39 <mircea_popescu>	cads those you certainly aren't getting answered.
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Apr 05 07:58:53 <MJR_>	but i got my backend exhchange stuff working...step one is complete
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Apr 05 08:00:59 <mircea_popescu>	if you think about it, this is proprietary sowftware which constitutes the main tangible asset of a corp mkt-valued at about a hundred million dollars.
Apr 05 08:01:20 <MJR_>	mpex?
Apr 05 08:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 05 08:01:27 <MJR_>	nice
Apr 05 08:02:14 <cads>	mircea_popescu: sounds like a reasonable protection
Apr 05 08:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	there's parts about mpex that are very open, such as for instance the use of gpg to protect orderflow
Apr 05 08:03:31 <cads>	Also, as I intend to publicly document each step of the process, and then release the result for free to whoever wishes to provide starting reserve capital, I understand I will get ridiculed
Apr 05 08:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	or some parts of the server architecture
Apr 05 08:03:47 <mircea_popescu>	these are well documented on trilema, and i'm pushing people to adopt them
Apr 05 08:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	(people, being donkeys, know better, so they continue getting owned a la coinbase)
Apr 05 08:05:28 <error4733>	sold coinbase mail DB   PM for offer
Apr 05 08:06:00 <error4733>	:trollface:
Apr 05 08:06:28 <cads>	:D
Apr 05 08:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	10ltc
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Apr 05 08:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	what's moral support in your definition ?
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Apr 05 08:10:27 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I believe that what a student can do greatly increases even by having a teacher that says 'it is possible'. Moral support means philosophical and encouragement. It would mean a great deal to have whatever positive, constructive input you wish to provide. When we provide others with moral support, we do it only so far as it helps our reputation or internal sense of gratification at having helped someone.
Apr 05 08:11:05 <mircea_popescu>	a, that's a different beast.
Apr 05 08:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	it certainly possible to build a ltc/btc futures market.
Apr 05 08:11:45 <mircea_popescu>	unless you're pointedly an idiot about it, it's going to be useful, too.
Apr 05 08:12:12 <mircea_popescu>	the other definition of moral support however is as to third parties. you can't go around saying "i'm working with mp on this" unless we actually have a deal of some sort.
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Apr 05 08:13:07 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I would certainly keep you on the anonymous gratitude lisk
Apr 05 08:13:20 <cads>	even up to what we've talked already
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Apr 05 08:13:36 <MJR_>	basically stressing the difference between "endorsement" and "encouragement"
Apr 05 08:13:42 <cads>	precisely
Apr 05 08:13:44 <mircea_popescu>	something like that.
Apr 05 08:13:59 <cads>	I do not wish to profit from recieving your public endorsement, no.
Apr 05 08:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	it's not a crime, it's business. stuff i sign off on does better in the marketplacer
Apr 05 08:14:26 <cads>	any private friendship will be repayed in kind to my social network.
Apr 05 08:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	s.bbet being probably the shiniest example.
Apr 05 08:14:36 <cads>	I believe I am creating this exchange as a gift to the community
Apr 05 08:14:53 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway : deprived is one fellow actively doing some ltc/btc futures stuff, tho mostly otc.
Apr 05 08:14:54 <MJR_>	now you are getting on shaky territory
Apr 05 08:15:18 <cads>	I do not wish to profit from it in ways other than 1) public reputation if I succed, and 2) transferrable skills regardless of whether I fail or succeed.
Apr 05 08:15:21 <MJR_>	its funny but "altruism" engenders less trust than profit
Apr 05 08:15:31 <cads>	I agree
Apr 05 08:15:39 <MJR_>	those should be positive side effects of a workable sustainable plan
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Apr 05 08:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, this entire "make a gift to the community" thing is suspect.
Apr 05 08:16:28 <MJR_>	hehehe, i knew thats what you would say
Apr 05 08:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	doing a general "this is how a successful business is made" documentary thing is one thing.
Apr 05 08:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	but when taaki stole and "released" the bitcoinica code
Apr 05 08:16:47 <mircea_popescu>	the only result was some even worse idiots made bitfinex.
Apr 05 08:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	there's no real benefit in making an open source thing the general public may confuse with a financial market to their detriment.
Apr 05 08:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	empowering people to run nuclear power plants in their garage is not a good thing
Apr 05 08:17:45 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I have already been advised once that for the project to succeed and be safe and beneficial long term.
Apr 05 08:17:51 <MJR_>	hmmm...great idea...but can we sell that?
Apr 05 08:18:08 <MJR_>	(garage based nuclear power)
Apr 05 08:18:08 <cads>	I am starting to change my opinion, due to the 'trust' argument
Apr 05 08:18:47 <DeaDTerra>	WTS G.SDICE,G.MPOE,G.BBET,BTCQuick :) pm me with offer
Apr 05 08:19:04 <cads>	mircea_popescu: this is where this community's advice is already coming in handy.
Apr 05 08:19:09 <cads>	I can see reason.
Apr 05 08:19:42 <cads>	If I have to set myself up to financially benefit, and hold the new company as a private organization, I will
Apr 05 08:19:44 <MJR_>	point is, people can't calculate your ephemeral motives, hence they can't arrive at the same conclusions...if based on clear mathematical profit model, they can arrive at the same conclusions and see the benefits
Apr 05 08:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	cads you can run it as a strictly limited operation.
Apr 05 08:20:18 <MJR_>	people trust that other people will do whats in their own self interest
Apr 05 08:20:22 <cads>	of course, whether I give my income to charity will be a private decision then. My inventive to serve the project honestly will come from that.
Apr 05 08:20:32 <mircea_popescu>	"i am doing this to learn, it's not for serious, i have 10 btc set in escrow with X if site fucks up"
Apr 05 08:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	that also works.
Apr 05 08:20:41 <cads>	Yes.
Apr 05 08:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	may be more adequate for what you want.
Apr 05 08:21:00 <cads>	I think that would be a suitable initial offering.
Apr 05 08:21:11 <cads>	The high level bells and whistles will come in later iterations.
Apr 05 08:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	publish your total exposure/don't let people expose you over that sumand that'sthat.
Apr 05 08:21:19 <MJR_>	i think that mpex's model is great...what if x, x', x'' and x''' happen
Apr 05 08:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	if you blow up escrow saves you, and you will be the first failed bitcoin business that failed correctly.
Apr 05 08:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	would be worth failing just for that.
Apr 05 08:21:52 <cads>	That would be extremely valuable to me, even as a failure.
Apr 05 08:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	well to everyone.
Apr 05 08:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	shows you had the sense to a. ask b. think through c. implement something safe.
Apr 05 08:22:16 <mircea_popescu>	big deal.
Apr 05 08:22:33 <cads>	Certainly
Apr 05 08:22:51 <cads>	very well, I am optimistic about this response
Apr 05 08:22:58 <mircea_popescu>	and in general i've always supported stuff that was made to be safe.
Apr 05 08:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	my girl regularly roils over things that calously put the public in grave danger
Apr 05 08:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	for minor benefits of the "entrepreneur"
Apr 05 08:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	just not a sustainable model.
Apr 05 08:24:39 <cads>	my eventual goal is attain skills needed to write 1) a mathematical specification of a secure trading 2) a program that is provably correct relative that specification
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Apr 05 08:24:53 <cads>	secure trading platform*
Apr 05 08:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	cads you ever seen the
Apr 05 08:25:47 <mircea_popescu>	hm where isi t
Apr 05 08:25:47 <cads>	this is a level of rigor that a few years ago produced L4-Verified, the world's first mathematically correct unix micro-kernel
Apr 05 08:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc/
Apr 05 08:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	if you can actually build a business on that model for instance, i'd certainly list it.
Apr 05 08:28:07 <MJR_>	that looks awesome
Apr 05 08:28:19 <MJR_>	and it is in some ways a "futures" hedge on code
Apr 05 08:28:45 <MJR_>	never cease to amaze me
Apr 05 08:28:54 <cads>	mircea_popescu: though I would be thrilled to offer that, frankly I would need 5 years of software dev manager work before I could assemble and run such a team, to completely forget about capital.
Apr 05 08:28:56 <MJR_>	*slow claps*
Apr 05 08:29:09 <cads>	But yes. That is the type of sector I wish to enter.
Apr 05 08:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	this is true, just, since we were on the topic of provavbility.
Apr 05 08:29:48 <cads>	yeah, I also believe offering provability services would be a great extension to that model
Apr 05 08:30:22 <cads>	thanks for sharing that, It's going into my business models brainstorming file
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Apr 05 08:30:55 <cads>	Okay, I will first brainstorm about a ~10BTC service
Apr 05 08:30:59 <pgp>	cads: are you doing this for a dissertation?
Apr 05 08:31:14 <cads>	pgp: I'm not sure if I'm going to remain in school
Apr 05 08:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	basically there is going to be space for 10k mathematicians and 100k software experts (this is NOT webdevelopers, ruby coders etc)
Apr 05 08:31:25 <mircea_popescu>	all making great salaries, out of btc.
Apr 05 08:31:26 <MJR_>	hahaha
Apr 05 08:31:31 <mircea_popescu>	more jobs than all qe rounds ever created.
Apr 05 08:31:39 <pgp>	drop out - start up
Apr 05 08:31:44 <cads>	if I do, then yes, I expect to use topics like this for my masters/phd
Apr 05 08:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	i always said the power of an idea is the number of people it can make drop out of school.
Apr 05 08:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is why whoredom is such a great thing.
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Apr 05 08:32:31 <cads>	but I also have work in applied logic and economics and game theory that is promising
Apr 05 08:32:33 <MJR_>	i think you can draw a clear parrallel to "crop harvesting" and "code development"...it actually seems like a perfect analogy in some ways
Apr 05 08:32:44 <cads>	this is more of a project to tempt myself to leave school over :D
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Apr 05 08:33:00 <pgp>	lol
Apr 05 08:33:20 <cads>	I might be overcommitting
Apr 05 08:33:32 <cads>	but I should certainly be able to push up a _small_ service
Apr 05 08:33:59 <cads>	I am also recruiting investors for a 3d printing business I'd like to help my brother set up
Apr 05 08:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	one of the advantages of the 10btc backstop is that it disencentivises overengineering
Apr 05 08:34:11 <mircea_popescu>	it is, after all, 10 btc.
Apr 05 08:34:15 <cads>	yep! :D
Apr 05 08:34:26 <cads>	that's a genius architecture decision
Apr 05 08:34:37 <cads>	I have no problem refactoring the code to scale it
Apr 05 08:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, it's kinda why i make a lot of money consulting.
Apr 05 08:35:32 <cads>	mircea_popescu: I tend to give my best advice without knowing it to friends, lol. And less good advice to my consutancy.
Apr 05 08:35:42 <cads>	something I ought to change.
Apr 05 08:36:02 <mircea_popescu>	i've never noticed such
Apr 05 08:37:19 <cads>	well to give an example I helped a friend for free to learn inequalities. Helped me breakthrough a new way to teach inequalities. Spent a couple hours. On the other hand, I charge so much for tutoring that my students often can't afford two hour stretches.
Apr 05 08:37:42 <cads>	and that's where I find the real breakthroughs happen
Apr 05 08:37:51 <cads>	Really the solution is become a better tutor.
Apr 05 08:38:01 <cads>	this is not quite the consulting capacity.
Apr 05 08:38:06 <mircea_popescu>	i only teach slaves these days, pretty much.
Apr 05 08:38:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 05 08:38:29 <cads>	haha, aka employees?
Apr 05 08:38:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.50501, Best ask: 136.94999, Bid-ask spread: 0.44498, Last trade: 136.94999, 24 hour volume: 67129.13784366, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 135.15683
Apr 05 08:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	no, no.
Apr 05 08:38:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.15789 = 0.3158 BTC [+]
Apr 05 08:39:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/nsfw-mosu-cu-joarda/ aka slaves.
Apr 05 08:41:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00069535 = 11.9253 BTC [-]
Apr 05 08:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00068933 = 1.034 BTC [-]
Apr 05 08:42:39 <cads>	;)
Apr 05 08:44:04 <mircea_popescu>	http://blockchain.info/address/1JqjoFF8QZwidrTbfnihGHDeu16pbLia1q < ver's shop inbound addy
Apr 05 08:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	total sales, 4k
Apr 05 08:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	why so low ?!
Apr 05 08:46:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00070686 = 6.8565 BTC [+]
Apr 05 08:50:39 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 05 08:50:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.50206, Best ask: 136.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.44794, Last trade: 136.50206, 24 hour volume: 63557.73550732, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 134.88219
Apr 05 08:52:05 <ChaangNoi>	only teach slaves eh mp? what is the going rate for a virgian romanian sex slave? (female)
Apr 05 08:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	i don't buy em.
Apr 05 08:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	that's kinda the entire point.
Apr 05 08:53:10 <ChaangNoi>	gifts?
Apr 05 08:53:30 <ChaangNoi>	or just dont has?
Apr 05 08:54:03 <anarchyxx>	if i would be making dollars available, for you to buy bitcoins with - how much would pay for it? 1% per day on the amount I lend?
Apr 05 08:54:06 <ChaangNoi>	ltc correct a bit, anyone know when gox is going to list them?
Apr 05 08:54:33 <ChaangNoi>	ill pay 1% a day says pirateat40
Apr 05 08:55:06 <pgp>	1% a day sounds about right...
Apr 05 08:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	1% a day ?! what ?!
Apr 05 08:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1.01**365
Apr 05 08:55:30 <gribble>	37.7834343329
Apr 05 08:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	what exactly are you doing for 3778% apr
Apr 05 08:55:41 <pgp>	margin lending on buying BTC...
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Apr 05 08:55:50 <ChaangNoi>	pirateat40 paid 1% a day:)
Apr 05 08:55:57 <mircea_popescu>	no, he didn't.
Apr 05 08:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	he said he would.
Apr 05 08:56:01 <pgp>	that's usually what it is over at bitfinex
Apr 05 08:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	different story.
Apr 05 08:56:11 <ChaangNoi>	he did for almost a year:)
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Apr 05 08:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	using bitfinex is like swimming in the east river.
Apr 05 08:56:24 <ChaangNoi>	then the sec, lulz
Apr 05 08:57:03 <pgp>	448167.3 USD in outstanding margin loans at weighted averae of 224.08%
Apr 05 08:57:27 <ChaangNoi>	but really, who wants fiat?
Apr 05 08:58:11 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 08:58:12 <gribble>	There are currently 31116429 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11492698.8359 USD in total. | Data vintage: 101.1584 seconds
Apr 05 08:58:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 05 08:58:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.61003, Best ask: 136.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.33997, Last trade: 136.95000, 24 hour volume: 61707.94188656, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 141.95999, 24 hour vwap: 134.66885
Apr 05 08:58:24 <pgp>	how much of the rate is time value of USD vs BTC and how much of it is risk premium of letting those guys hold your USD?
Apr 05 08:58:31 <ChaangNoi>	11 million in bids, nice
Apr 05 08:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	stable btc, even nicer.
Apr 05 08:59:13 <ChaangNoi>	rock seems to be refuling, i bet next week is a nice jump again (assuming no massive crash on the weekend)
Apr 05 08:59:16 <anarchyxx>	yeah its very stable compared to 2 days ago, i like it a lot
Apr 05 08:59:19 <mircea_popescu>	two days. this clearly proves btc is not a bubble.
Apr 05 08:59:34 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Apr 05 08:59:52 <ChaangNoi>	ltc was over $5 for two days lol
Apr 05 09:00:01 <ChaangNoi>	it crashed quit a bit
Apr 05 09:00:16 <anarchyxx>	i heard some guy dumped 25% of his btc, and made 600k - you think thats a smart move to get out 25% of your stash right now?
Apr 05 09:00:36 <ChaangNoi>	i sold 25% of my ltc for btc, then sold that into cash
Apr 05 09:00:54 <ChaangNoi>	but im not selling my btc stash
Apr 05 09:01:02 <ChaangNoi>	not until 850ish
Apr 05 09:01:09 <ChaangNoi>	and then only 10 to 25%
Apr 05 09:01:11 <pgp>	gotta live...  and life still runs on fiat...
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Apr 05 09:01:30 <cads>	mircea_popescu: ah, those kinds of slave. And they have so much to learn I can understand why teaching anyone else might be low priority.
Apr 05 09:01:32 <ChaangNoi>	ltc just up 10,000% in 2 months i was like, yeah time to lock in profits
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Apr 05 09:01:44 <anarchyxx>	in case of ltc i can't blame you
Apr 05 09:02:08 <ChaangNoi>	i had way more than anyone should have, i got lucky
Apr 05 09:02:54 <mircea_popescu>	cads moreover, it resolves the "can't afford to pay" issue nicely.
Apr 05 09:03:06 <bitesak>	but you said you were probably the unluckiest chap in bitcoin_
Apr 05 09:03:20 <mircea_popescu>	bitesak he changes about weekly.
Apr 05 09:03:20 <cads>	mircea_popescu: they _pay_ for your teaching?
Apr 05 09:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	cads seeing how i own them already, they don't have to.
Apr 05 09:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.919 BTC [+]
Apr 05 09:06:05 <cads>	mircea_popescu: very dark. That always seems like nothing more than a game to me. I think I'd have to develop the ownership mentality to be a really good master.
Apr 05 09:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	nothing dark about it
Apr 05 09:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	education doesn't really work under any other paradigm anyway.
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Apr 05 09:07:23 <cads>	Yep, if it's not authentic the atmosphere suffers.
Apr 05 09:07:36 <cads>	*shrug*
Apr 05 09:08:04 <cads>	plenty of time to play in that regard when I am entirely more possessed of my own sense of greatness
Apr 05 09:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	i suspect such a sense is moreover dangerous in that context.
Apr 05 09:09:19 <cads>	a humble master, huh?
Apr 05 09:09:28 <ChaangNoi>	http://buzz.money.cnn.com/2013/04/05/bitcoin-bubble/?section=money_topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fmoney_topstories+(Top+Stories
Apr 05 09:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	teh true master, beyond great and humble.
Apr 05 09:10:09 <cads>	Things to learn. In time ;)
Apr 05 09:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	2nd jgb halt today
Apr 05 09:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	japan isn't doing too well.
Apr 05 09:12:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.003498 = 0.007 BTC [+]
Apr 05 09:12:44 <ChaangNoi>	lol japan...
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Apr 05 09:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/376/bfl-will-stop-giving-refunds-on-bitforce-sc/
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Apr 05 09:16:24 <kakobrekla>	things will be getting back to normal shortly.
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Apr 05 09:20:11 <ChaangNoi>	what is not normal? (other than japan)?
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Apr 05 09:26:44 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: this article is great
Apr 05 09:26:45 <MJR_>	http://nymag.com/news/features/tide-detergent-drugs-2013-1/index1.html
Apr 05 09:27:29 <MJR_>	"medium of exchange" is the most flexible part of money...
Apr 05 09:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	i recall reading that exact thing months ago
Apr 05 09:28:37 <kakobrekla>	http://forexmagnates.com/bitcoin-denominated-mt4-trading-at-bit4x/
Apr 05 09:29:14 <MJR_>	ah, someone talking about bitcoins linked to that, i thought it was very interesting
Apr 05 09:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	the gall of these people.
Apr 05 09:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	so coinbase comes up with a warning, against phishing.
Apr 05 09:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	how did the phishers get the emails ? coinbase leak ? a, we don't mention that.
Apr 05 09:31:04 <mircea_popescu>	fucking scum at the bottom of the bitcoin pond, these people.
Apr 05 09:31:09 <deadweasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167900.0
Apr 05 09:31:17 <deadweasel>	coinbase is leaking
Apr 05 09:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 05 09:32:11 <MJR_>	funny how the volume spiked at the same time as the ny market opened
Apr 05 09:34:06 <deadweasel>	correlation, US got woke up or got to their desk.
Apr 05 09:36:40 <ChaangNoi>	i think a lot of this is fund traders doing it on the side
Apr 05 09:36:50 <ChaangNoi>	hell, who of them would not have heard about btc by now
Apr 05 09:37:02 <cads>	mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc/#comment-90935 "That’s a good point, if the codebase is small formal validation would probably be the way to go."
Apr 05 09:37:14 <ChaangNoi>	ltc juped as well :/
Apr 05 09:37:15 <cads>	"One major point which the original article neglects to mention is that this proposed business would be an excellent point of crystallization for true IT competence, drawing some actually qualified people in."
Apr 05 09:37:27 <cads>	mircea_popescu: ding ding ding...
Apr 05 09:38:10 <cads>	I think I might have hit on an interesting idea
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Apr 05 09:43:58 <MJR_>	yes, that was my point, is that i think there is increasing volume of people accustomed to a 9:30 EST market opening
Apr 05 09:44:27 <MJR_>	that would be a good metric to track...
Apr 05 09:44:51 <MJR_>	to judge the amount of "institutional" or "wall street" interest
Apr 05 09:47:43 <cads>	mircea_popescu: do you have customers in mind for the code review adventure?
Apr 05 09:49:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1022 = 0.2044 BTC [-]
Apr 05 09:50:05 <cads>	I'm thinking risk and externalities on the insurance derivative over this kind of service would be _far_ beyond my abilities to manage. However a code review would be quite lucrative and low risk. Also, it might be reasonable to begin offering formal verification services from the gate, or about 1 year after startup. It's not that hard to teach. When you have your own slaves.
Apr 05 09:50:10 <cads>	and I mean employees
Apr 05 09:50:31 <cads>	sex-employees cost too much!
Apr 05 09:51:26 <cads>	The issue I see with formal verification is so few people know to ask for it by name
Apr 05 09:52:50 <cads>	also, I know any number of people that play with the technology _for fun_, but much fewer who have names for themselves (and those guys tend to be happily employed)
Apr 05 09:53:22 <optimator>	I've thought about the insurance thing before. I think you'll end up developing pci-type standards and then measuring / certifying the company against those standards
Apr 05 09:54:39 <optimator>	http://www.pcicomplianceguide.org/pcifaqs.php
Apr 05 09:54:59 <cads>	mircea_popescu: thanks for that stimulating line of thought, I'm getting some positive feedback from my peers already.
Apr 05 09:54:59 <cads>	throwing in the bone about coding an exchange, too
Apr 05 09:54:59 <cads>	I might see some champing at the bit :)
Apr 05 09:55:26 <mircea_popescu>	cads> mircea_popescu: do you have customers in mind for the code review adventure? << sure. pretty much any new service opening.
Apr 05 09:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	optimator i think that direction is pretty much diametrically opposed.
Apr 05 09:56:45 <optimator>	how so?
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Apr 05 09:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	let's go by example : the cc industry is pretty much all pci compliant
Apr 05 09:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	about half the cards in the world are available to download on the black market.
Apr 05 09:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	the idea is to succeed not to fail here.
Apr 05 09:59:11 <optimator>	ah. the issue is pci is broke, not that an open sourced bitcoin security standard would fail
Apr 05 09:59:19 <mircea_popescu>	but anyway. pci is pretty much marketing fluff. heavy on the blabla and three letter acronims, pompous definitions and posturing.
Apr 05 09:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	very light on actual anything. which mostly boils down to some penetration testing
Apr 05 09:59:39 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Apr 05 09:59:44 <cads>	http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au/research/l4.verified/approach.pml
Apr 05 09:59:50 <optimator>	sure, but i want to provide insurance to a site. but I'll only insure if they meet some standard. How do you define the standard? individual for each site?
Apr 05 10:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	a, no, if you read the article/comments it's agreed some standards will have to be arrived at/published
Apr 05 10:00:36 <cads>	this approach is essentially extensible to let us create almost anything needed. Bitcoin asic? Verified. LTC asic? verified. Bitcoin stock exchage?
Apr 05 10:00:43 <cads>	Can I hear "verified"?
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Apr 05 10:01:14 <optimator>	right - pci, was just a placeholder, for an agreed upon standard
Apr 05 10:01:14 <MJR_>	this could be the "slightly smoky dragon" certification that i have been asking for...
Apr 05 10:01:19 <mircea_popescu>	"Stay tuned for the first commercially available, fully formally verified microkernel."
Apr 05 10:01:23 <mircea_popescu>	what's the news on that btw ?
Apr 05 10:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	optimator right.
Apr 05 10:01:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Apr 05 10:01:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.748 = 1.496 BTC [-]
Apr 05 10:01:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7401 BTC [-]
Apr 05 10:01:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
Apr 05 10:01:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.735 = 5.88 BTC [-]
Apr 05 10:01:54 <MJR_>	my point was that if someone has credibility (mpex) they can call their cert whatever they want, it will have value
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Apr 05 10:02:22 <cads>	mircea_popescu:  when you realize that this approach takes Coq -> Haskell -> C code, then you see it's about putting Coq in Cunt. Simple. I know ten medium level programmers already dying to be doing this kind of work, even if it was near free.
Apr 05 10:02:26 <MJR_>	so the double cherry truck and slightly smoky dragon were a joke, but they actually could hold weight now
Apr 05 10:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ well obviously. kinda why those are there, to make that point.
Apr 05 10:02:32 <cads>	The only part is the veracity of our code
Apr 05 10:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	they weren't entirely a joke. best jokes are half jokes.
Apr 05 10:02:48 <cads>	if we turn out _only_ verified code, our reputation would rise quickly.
Apr 05 10:02:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.0038 = 0.095 BTC [-]
Apr 05 10:02:49 <MJR_>	kernel of truth
Apr 05 10:02:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.0037 = 0.0407 BTC [-]
Apr 05 10:03:04 <MJR_>	but it points to certification is only as good as certifier
Apr 05 10:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	cads don't get overexcited now.
Apr 05 10:03:13 <MJR_>	in case of mpex...backed by btc
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Apr 05 10:03:36 <mircea_popescu>	dow just dropped 100
Apr 05 10:03:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00333333 = 0.1667 BTC [+]
Apr 05 10:03:41 <mircea_popescu>	is now known as down jones
Apr 05 10:04:28 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 05 10:04:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.91900000 / 1.919 / 1.91900000 (2 shares, 3.83800000 BTC), 7D: 1.80000000 / 1.96645135 / 2.08000000 (111 shares, 218.27609996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.8129944 / 2.08000000 (716 shares, 1298.10399240 BTC)
Apr 05 10:04:35 <thestringpuller>	oh wow
Apr 05 10:04:42 <kakobrekla>	O_O
Apr 05 10:04:59 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 05 10:05:00 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 93.3570601 / 108.2470225 / 135.80742037 (19613 shares, 8,037.73 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 05 10:05:11 <thestringpuller>	heh
Apr 05 10:05:16 <MJR_>	i'm seeing bullish sentiment...if you think GLD contracts expiring today struck at 151 are an indicator...those just doubled in value since the open
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Apr 05 10:05:31 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 108
Apr 05 10:05:33 <gribble>	There are currently 35595.81 bitcoins demanded at or over 108.0 USD, worth 4409417.03238 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0056 seconds
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Apr 05 10:07:11 <eyes>	hey, anyone got any idea what the precedant is for bets where the conditions become unclear?
Apr 05 10:07:13 <eyes>	eg http://bitbet.us/bet/337/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-may-1st/
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Apr 05 10:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	eyes not really much precedent. what's unclear there ?
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Apr 05 10:07:36 <eyes>	the spec on BFL has changed since the bet was made
Apr 05 10:07:41 <cads>	mircea_popescu: *shrug* I do this when I make a connection that turns a deep problem into a resource. You should have seen me years ago each time I realized some little math connection.
Apr 05 10:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't matter. spec at the time of the bet being created counts.
Apr 05 10:07:55 <eyes>	ok cool
Apr 05 10:08:10 <eyes>	thats what i figured but though i would check :D
Apr 05 10:08:23 <eyes>	thankyou for quick response!
Apr 05 10:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Apr 05 10:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	otherwiswe would be too easy
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Apr 05 10:09:24 <mircea_popescu>	boingboing.net/2013/04/04/american-public-schools-in-9-s.html
Apr 05 10:09:55 <mircea_popescu>	how long till someone makes an ipad app to pinpoint mentally retarded female students aged 12 to 14, not on their period, with big tits ?
Apr 05 10:13:21 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 05 10:13:21 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 hours, 30 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 05 10:13:30 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 05 10:13:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.00000, Best ask: 137.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 137.00000, 24 hour volume: 60517.06080753, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 139.89998, 24 hour vwap: 134.46786
Apr 05 10:13:49 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell smickle pm me when you get the chance
Apr 05 10:13:50 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 05 10:14:06 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 100000
Apr 05 10:14:08 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 9458202.1355 USD and would take the last price down to 41.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 94.5820 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0044 seconds
Apr 05 10:14:19 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 200000
Apr 05 10:14:20 <gribble>	A market order to sell 200000 bitcoins right now would net 11368941.2316 USD and would take the last price down to 7.6000 USD, resulting in an average price of 56.8447 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 11.6483 seconds
Apr 05 10:14:33 <cads>	mircea_popescu: as long as american public doesn't know to invest in in policies and products that help identity management and security, shit like this will keep happening.
Apr 05 10:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	cads it's an outrage tho.
Apr 05 10:14:56 <cads>	mircea_popescu: In America, remember, privacy is 'dirty'.
Apr 05 10:14:57 <cads>	A sin.
Apr 05 10:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	collectivist swamp you got going there.
Apr 05 10:15:38 <thestringpuller>	makes us all wanna move to romania
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Apr 05 10:15:43 <cads>	'People do naughty things in private!' It's only barely dawning on us that privacy protects you from disgusting things.
Apr 05 10:16:28 <cads>	Have you guys read about Identiti?
Apr 05 10:16:35 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: Simona is at the bank, how do I say this phrase.  what is is again, ce froumaousa esti?
Apr 05 10:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	ce frumoasa esti.
Apr 05 10:17:00 <thestringpuller>	how does that sound?
Apr 05 10:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	mkay lesee
Apr 05 10:17:37 <cads>	Identifi* http://www.rvl.io/mmalmi/identifi
Apr 05 10:18:17 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuCPqiLNeIU
Apr 05 10:18:23 <cads>	It is a proposed complete identity database that will collect all available data on all humans. Get this. For the purpose of leading to a gift economy.
Apr 05 10:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	first few syllables. "ce frumoasa esti"
Apr 05 10:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	cads the retards re-re-re-inventing a broken version of pgp
Apr 05 10:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36499999 BTC [-]
Apr 05 10:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	i'm so sick of this bullshit
Apr 05 10:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	and of the "start-up" freakshow in general.
Apr 05 10:19:44 <deadweasel>	it's much worse in btc land
Apr 05 10:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.365 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 10:20:17 <jurov>	cads, truly fascinating ideas... but i propose to have btc code formally verified first
Apr 05 10:20:25 <cads>	mircea_popescu: worse than that. They want judges to be voted on by a peer network. If the network doesn't like the judge's decision, they can vote another judge. The idea is that people found guilty of crimes will become universally shunned.
Apr 05 10:20:37 <mircea_popescu>	orly.
Apr 05 10:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	because what the public thinks matters.
Apr 05 10:20:59 <cads>	as if!
Apr 05 10:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	the us population < 40 is in dire need of regular weekly beatings
Apr 05 10:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.919 = 3.838 BTC [+]
Apr 05 10:21:21 <cads>	the public _thinks_ its opinion matters, and that's what is important.
Apr 05 10:21:34 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: lol
Apr 05 10:21:39 <cads>	Such a system would be so easy to influence it would be ridiculous.
Apr 05 10:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, i've enjoyed showing better a large swath of variouses since btc.
Apr 05 10:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ya that'll be the day.
Apr 05 10:22:11 <cads>	jurov: you think the BTC devs would like that?
Apr 05 10:22:22 <jurov>	*chuckles*
Apr 05 10:22:26 <thestringpuller>	haha
Apr 05 10:22:38 <mircea_popescu>	joeykrim hey, still there ?
Apr 05 10:22:54 <cads>	maybe I start my own coin
Apr 05 10:22:57 <cads>	the mathcoin :P
Apr 05 10:23:00 <jurov>	yea making proven correct altchain would be prolly easier
Apr 05 10:23:03 <mircea_popescu>	stop starting things.
Apr 05 10:23:07 <cads>	perfectly verified code base :D
Apr 05 10:23:19 <KRS-1>	you should use haskell
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Apr 05 10:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	he should use bitc and name the service oink
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Apr 05 10:24:41 <thestringpuller>	oink like the bittorrent tracker?
Apr 05 10:25:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.39 = 4.29 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 10:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoink the bitc whatever
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Apr 05 10:27:24 <thestringpuller>	;;asks
Apr 05 10:27:24 <gribble>	(asks [--over] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoins for sale at or under <pricetarget>. If '--over' option is given, find coins or at or over <pricetarget>.
Apr 05 10:27:28 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel 4.  Use multiple bets to get more of the wiinings 'weight' << hiow;s that work ?
Apr 05 10:28:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.774 BTC [+]
Apr 05 10:29:12 <deadweasel>	seconds]
Apr 05 10:29:12 <deadweasel>	10:24:44 < thestringpuller> oink like the bittorrent tracker?
Apr 05 10:29:47 <deadweasel>	i figure multiple bets each get a chunck of weight, so if you split up, maybe get more weight?
Apr 05 10:30:08 <jurov>	nope
Apr 05 10:30:46 <jurov>	betting 4BTC at is the same result as 4 bets 1 btc each, all weights equal
Apr 05 10:30:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15789 BTC [+]
Apr 05 10:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 05 10:31:05 <deadweasel>	oh
Apr 05 10:31:11 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise wtf
Apr 05 10:31:24 <deadweasel>	fixed
Apr 05 10:31:44 <deadweasel>	lol, i made that up in my brain.
Apr 05 10:31:50 <deadweasel>	stupid brain
Apr 05 10:32:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01998 BTC [+]
Apr 05 10:33:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01999 BTC [+]
Apr 05 10:35:27 *	Scrat is now known as Scrat_c
Apr 05 10:35:32 *	Scrat_c is now known as Scrat
Apr 05 10:35:59 <jurov>	deadweasel: you're deadweasley or that's somebody else?
Apr 05 10:36:36 <deadweasel>	that me, left my vpn on yesterday, had to use web irc at work cos no ssh
Apr 05 10:37:08 <jurov>	weren't you hired to do something else? xD
Apr 05 10:37:35 <deadweasel>	i'm considering in for my weekend project.
Apr 05 10:37:40 <deadweasel>	in / it
Apr 05 10:37:57 <jurov>	okay :D
Apr 05 10:40:19 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: i want to build something like this for your options...there are so many strike prices right now http://imgur.com/zYFS8Pv
Apr 05 10:40:48 <MJR_>	like as a front end i mean
Apr 05 10:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	so go ahead
Apr 05 10:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	smickles was working on something similar
Apr 05 10:41:40 <MJR_>	you only support polling currently right?
Apr 05 10:41:48 <MJR_>	no data stream?
Apr 05 10:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	there's a websocket for trades and tyou can also get the twitter whatever that is
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Apr 05 10:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	high: 139.90      low: 135.12
Apr 05 10:43:16 <mircea_popescu>	ahh this is so beautiful
Apr 05 10:43:47 <thestringpuller>	IKNORITE
Apr 05 10:43:53 <thestringpuller>	high five mircea_popescu
Apr 05 10:43:55 <denialdenial>	i have some pretty rad ideas for an options/gui type interface
Apr 05 10:43:57 <thestringpuller>	o/
Apr 05 10:44:03 <denialdenial>	can't share
Apr 05 10:44:06 <thestringpuller>	(dont leave me hanging)
Apr 05 10:44:06 <denialdenial>	hush hush
Apr 05 10:44:16 <denialdenial>	ijs
Apr 05 10:44:24 <denialdenial>	errybody got projects going
Apr 05 10:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	.|.
Apr 05 10:44:39 <mircea_popescu>	like that ?
Apr 05 10:44:44 <thestringpuller>	yah
Apr 05 10:44:48 <thestringpuller>	:D
Apr 05 10:45:58 <MJR_>	denialdenial: what do you think of this  http://imgur.com/zYFS8Pv
Apr 05 10:46:17 <thestringpuller>	denialdenial: are you related to danieldaniel
Apr 05 10:46:23 <thestringpuller>	;;identify denialdenial
Apr 05 10:46:24 <gribble>	Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
Apr 05 10:46:29 <thestringpuller>	;;ident denialdenial
Apr 05 10:46:29 <gribble>	Nick 'denialdenial', with hostmask 'denialdenial!~jcpham@unaffiliated/jcpham', is identified as user jcpham, with GPG key id C71FB5ED6ACE04AF, key fingerprint F7299BD73879E866613EAB24C71FB5ED6ACE04AF, and bitcoin address 16zaKwZC6n9BMipwLbewYGn8NXEgmN2f3Y
Apr 05 10:46:31 <denialdenial>	derp
Apr 05 10:46:42 <thestringpuller>	;;ident danieldaniel
Apr 05 10:46:42 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Apr 05 10:46:51 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating danieldaniel
Apr 05 10:46:52 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User danieldaniel, rated since Wed Jul 13 18:27:02 2011. Cumulative rating 148, from 111 total ratings. Received ratings: 108 positive, 3 negative. Sent ratings: 98 positive, 9 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=danieldaniel
Apr 05 10:47:07 <denialdenial>	why you checking dansqaures ratings
Apr 05 10:47:23 <denialdenial>	i'm not him
Apr 05 10:47:24 <denialdenial>	he's 12
Apr 05 10:47:37 <thestringpuller>	are you 12?
Apr 05 10:47:43 <denialdenial>	almost
Apr 05 10:47:51 <denialdenial>	very soon.
Apr 05 10:48:07 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating denialdenial
Apr 05 10:48:08 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Apr 05 10:48:09 <jurov>	are you gay?
Apr 05 10:48:14 <denialdenial>	almost
Apr 05 10:48:15 <denialdenial>	very soon.
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Apr 05 10:48:24 <jurov>	can i help you?
Apr 05 10:48:38 <denialdenial>	;;getrating [ident denialdenial]
Apr 05 10:48:38 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask denialdenial!~jcpham@unaffiliated/jcpham . CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. User jcpham, rated since Fri Nov 11 10:35:04 2011. Cumulative rating 102, from 73 total ratings. Received ratings: 70 positive, 3 negative. Sent ratings: 74 positive, 5 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jcpham
Apr 05 10:48:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00070681 = 9.4006 BTC [-]
Apr 05 10:49:28 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 05 10:49:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00313722 / 0.0033218 / 0.00333333 (8140 shares, 27.04 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00326054 / 0.00439992 (540907 shares, 1,763.65 BTC), 30D: 0.0031 / 0.00373031 / 0.006 (1695348 shares, 6,324.18 BTC)
Apr 05 10:49:48 <thestringpuller>	that will skyrocket as soon as divs are paid
Apr 05 10:49:51 <thestringpuller>	jeeze
Apr 05 10:49:51 <denialdenial>	check that next to the last rating
Apr 05 10:49:58 <denialdenial>	hilarity
Apr 05 10:50:30 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what exactly did erik say?
Apr 05 10:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	that he's moved and getting things together.
Apr 05 10:51:04 <thestringpuller>	oh is he moving satoshi dice physically?
Apr 05 10:51:08 <troc>	is there a public record of that ?
Apr 05 10:51:10 <thestringpuller>	he flew to ireland?
Apr 05 10:51:13 <MJR_>	sdice is in ireland
Apr 05 10:51:20 <MJR_>	he moved himself physically :)
Apr 05 10:51:51 <thestringpuller>	oh to a bigger penthouse in new york
Apr 05 10:51:59 <MJR_>	no, out of US
Apr 05 10:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	nah out of the us
Apr 05 10:52:01 <MJR_>	USSA
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Apr 05 10:52:22 <thestringpuller>	does he still work for bitinstant?
Apr 05 10:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol jurov you help prepubescent prefags grow into the fold ?
Apr 05 10:52:30 <MJR_>	not really
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Apr 05 10:52:47 <MJR_>	they had to split coinapult off of that, i believe, but I don't know all  the details
Apr 05 10:52:56 <thestringpuller>	oh wow
Apr 05 10:52:58 <jurov>	yea. but only bottoms.
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Apr 05 10:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00333333 = 3.3333 BTC [+]
Apr 05 10:55:33 <MJR_>	thestringpuller: thats the funny thing is that the share price goes up AFTER the dividends
Apr 05 10:57:08 <thestringpuller>	best time to buy
Apr 05 10:57:33 <thestringpuller>	slightly above original ipo tier 2 price
Apr 05 10:58:17 <thestringpuller>	;;seen Bugpowder
Apr 05 10:58:17 <gribble>	Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 26 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> Bids now > $11.1MM
Apr 05 10:58:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00069564 = 4.313 BTC [-]
Apr 05 10:58:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 360 @ 0.00333333 = 1.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 11:11:15 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 05 11:11:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.84000, Best ask: 136.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.15999, Last trade: 136.99999, 24 hour volume: 60351.15215987, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 139.89998, 24 hour vwap: 134.65262
Apr 05 11:11:22 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 11:11:25 <gribble>	There are currently 31166637 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11949599.5809 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds
Apr 05 11:12:32 <ChaangNo_>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 11:12:33 <gribble>	There are currently 31166637 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11949599.5809 USD in total. | Data vintage: 67.6056 seconds
Apr 05 11:12:43 <ChaangNo_>	almost 12 million
Apr 05 11:12:49 <ChaangNo_>	weekend rocket? :)
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Apr 05 11:14:10 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 05 11:14:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.29312, Best ask: 137.71069, Bid-ask spread: 0.41757, Last trade: 137.98994, 24 hour volume: 60258.80277878, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 139.89998, 24 hour vwap: 134.65657
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Apr 05 11:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9604 @ 0.0007033 = 6.7545 BTC [+]
Apr 05 11:18:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4031 @ 0.00070686 = 2.8494 BTC [+]
Apr 05 11:18:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9965 @ 0.00070706 = 7.0459 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 11:28:27 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 05 11:28:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.00002, Best ask: 138.15557, Bid-ask spread: 0.15555, Last trade: 138.00002, 24 hour volume: 60159.81680270, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 139.89998, 24 hour vwap: 134.66702
Apr 05 11:28:35 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 05 11:28:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00313722 / 0.00332345 / 0.00333333 (9500 shares, 31.57 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00326072 / 0.00439992 (542267 shares, 1,768.18 BTC), 30D: 0.0031 / 0.00372916 / 0.006 (1693319 shares, 6,314.67 BTC)
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Apr 05 11:34:08 <MJR_>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 05 11:34:09 <gribble>	134.34
Apr 05 11:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.360123 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 11:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.93 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 11:40:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.743 BTC [-]
Apr 05 11:40:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.742 = 5.194 BTC [-]
Apr 05 11:40:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.741 BTC [-]
Apr 05 11:40:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
Apr 05 11:42:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [+]
Apr 05 11:42:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 11:44:18 <AndroUser>	;;ticker
Apr 05 11:44:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.00000, Best ask: 138.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 138.00000, 24 hour volume: 60135.66333421, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 139.89998, 24 hour vwap: 134.68006
Apr 05 11:44:46 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 11:44:46 <gribble>	There are currently 31166837 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12022834.3331 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.7549 seconds
Apr 05 11:45:18 <AndroUser>	Pleasantly surprised we're staying so high in price
Apr 05 11:48:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1722 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 11:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3581 = 0.7162 BTC [-]
Apr 05 11:59:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1025 = 0.205 BTC [+]
Apr 05 11:59:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 18 @ 0.1026 = 1.8468 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 12:06:17 <deadweasel>	how does get invited to #bitcoin-security?
Apr 05 12:06:34 <deadweasel>	*one
Apr 05 12:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.36 = 5.04 BTC [+]
Apr 05 12:08:05 <topace|2>	if you have to ask, you cant be invited
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Apr 05 12:08:55 <deadweasel>	i figured
Apr 05 12:09:00 <topace|2>	hehe
Apr 05 12:09:03 <topace|2>	honestly i have no clue
Apr 05 12:09:07 <topace|2>	it just seemed to make sense
Apr 05 12:09:11 <topace|2>	like.. maybe you have to hack your way in?
Apr 05 12:09:19 <deadweasel>	probably
Apr 05 12:09:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 05 12:09:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.99985, Best ask: 138.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00015, Last trade: 138.00000, 24 hour volume: 59900.23588376, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 139.89998, 24 hour vwap: 134.71313
Apr 05 12:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	there is no bitcoin security.
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Apr 05 12:09:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen namworld
Apr 05 12:09:55 <gribble>	namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 16 hours, 15 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <Namworld> lag on the rise... and almost no trading...
Apr 05 12:10:35 <ivan```>	hi
Apr 05 12:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00333333 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 05 12:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3581 BTC [-]
Apr 05 12:11:56 <jcpham>	* Channel #bitcoin-security? modes: +ns
Apr 05 12:11:56 <jcpham>	* jcpham sets mode +t #bitcoin-security?
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Apr 05 12:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.17 BTC [+]
Apr 05 12:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.185 = 3.555 BTC [+]
Apr 05 12:12:25 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 05 12:12:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.91900000 / 1.9212 / 1.93000000 (5 shares, 9.60600000 BTC), 7D: 1.87000000 / 1.98256408 / 2.08000000 (103 shares, 204.20409996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.81345201 / 2.08000000 (719 shares, 1303.87199240 BTC)
Apr 05 12:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.3581 = 1.7905 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 12:16:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.185 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 12:16:51 <deadweasel>	topace|2: it's for discussing exploits not in the wild.. yet
Apr 05 12:17:07 <deadweasel>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures
Apr 05 12:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3501 BTC [-]
Apr 05 12:18:53 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIx
Apr 05 12:18:54 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 93.3570601 / 108.2470225 / 135.80742037 (19613 shares, 8,037.73 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Apr 05 12:22:29 <ThickAsThieves>	I'm surprised there isnt a BitBet "MtGox will make Litecoin available for trading with BTC and USD"
Apr 05 12:22:33 <ThickAsThieves>	so i submitted one
Apr 05 12:22:42 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 12:22:42 <gribble>	There are currently 31167170 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12081001.5474 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.1370 seconds
Apr 05 12:22:47 <ThickAsThieves>	!
Apr 05 12:22:52 <Bugpowder>	up up and away!
Apr 05 12:23:19 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1365178675195.png
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Apr 05 12:27:33 <ThickAsThieves>	139
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Apr 05 12:28:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2424 @ 0.0033 = 7.9992 BTC [-]
Apr 05 12:28:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3391 @ 0.00324997 = 11.0206 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 12:30:23 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 05 12:30:25 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 134.44
Apr 05 12:44:55 <bgupta>	;;goxlog
Apr 05 12:44:56 <gribble>	Error: "goxlog" is not a valid command.
Apr 05 12:45:03 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 12:45:04 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.069233 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00214273096027 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 05 12:47:55 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 12:47:57 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 103.696989 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.207807604907 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 05 12:52:39 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 12:52:40 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 6.830921 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0136890892012 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU).
Apr 05 12:53:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 12:53:10 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 31.669719 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0634657622842 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
Apr 05 12:53:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 05 12:53:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.50002, Best ask: 139.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37998, Last trade: 139.50002, 24 hour volume: 62471.48988893, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 135.01616
Apr 05 12:53:30 <bgupta>	dlaiming ddos in #mtgox
Apr 05 12:53:36 <ThickAsThieves>	suuuure.
Apr 05 12:54:00 <bgupta>	well volume isn't that high.. it's not like there trade engine should be melting down
Apr 05 12:54:11 <bgupta>	I executed a buy
Apr 05 12:54:18 <bgupta>	it went through right away
Apr 05 12:54:24 <MJR_>	i was wondering about that
Apr 05 12:54:33 <MJR_>	"volume" means number of coins
Apr 05 12:54:43 <MJR_>	is there any reporting of number of transactions?
Apr 05 12:54:49 <bgupta>	I beli that there is a DDOS going on.
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Apr 05 12:54:53 <MJR_>	you can do 10,000 transactions for one coin
Apr 05 12:54:56 <MJR_>	at least
Apr 05 12:55:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 12:55:15 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 12.045338 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0241387224857 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Apr 05 12:55:19 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 05 12:55:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.92000, Best ask: 139.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 139.92000, 24 hour volume: 63174.54465026, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 135.07365
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Apr 05 12:55:28 <bgupta>	well my transacaction went trough immediately
Apr 05 12:55:41 <ThickAsThieves>	so a 10-minute ddos?
Apr 05 12:55:46 <ThickAsThieves>	only when price peaks?
Apr 05 12:56:02 <bgupta>	seems that it continues until price breaks
Apr 05 12:56:21 <MJR_>	well, i can send one order for 10,oo0 coins...that isn't a lot of "Volume"
Apr 05 12:56:31 <bgupta>	people kinda know what's going on now, so I'm not sure we'll see the same tanking
Apr 05 12:56:36 <MJR_>	in other words, their lag is not related to number of coins, but rather to number of orders
Apr 05 12:56:54 <MJR_>	so is their a measurement of number of orders?
Apr 05 12:57:05 <ThickAsThieves>	doubtful
Apr 05 12:57:09 <bgupta>	No I think the lag is realted to a ddos that's happening
Apr 05 12:57:15 <MJR_>	either way
Apr 05 12:57:16 <ThickAsThieves>	especially since you can make soft orders
Apr 05 12:57:21 <ThickAsThieves>	that dont even show
Apr 05 12:57:24 <bgupta>	soft orders?
Apr 05 12:57:33 <MJR_>	they are unfunded and don't hit the books till funds arrive
Apr 05 12:57:39 <ThickAsThieves>	you can have as many bids as you want
Apr 05 12:57:44 <ThickAsThieves>	past your USD
Apr 05 12:57:48 <bgupta>	oh yeah..
Apr 05 12:57:55 <ThickAsThieves>	they only list the ones that are funded
Apr 05 12:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34758 BTC [-]
Apr 05 12:58:02 <ThickAsThieves>	but others trigger dynamically
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Apr 05 12:58:33 <ThickAsThieves>	some think that is the cause of lag
Apr 05 12:58:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i make 10000 orders at minimum price
Apr 05 12:58:55 <ThickAsThieves>	every tme one fills, all orders need to be adjusted
Apr 05 12:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:01:45 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: so you are the cause of goxlag?
Apr 05 13:01:49 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 05 13:01:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.25622, Best ask: 140.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04378, Last trade: 140.30000, 24 hour volume: 63655.09673072, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 140.25622, 24 hour vwap: 135.11602
Apr 05 13:02:01 <bgupta>	interesting we are above 140
Apr 05 13:02:48 <bgupta>	if you hard refres clarkmoody you get updated numbers, but no live updates
Apr 05 13:03:22 <ThickAsThieves>	I am not
Apr 05 13:03:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont have time for that shit
Apr 05 13:03:42 <MJR_>	164 strike price options FTW
Apr 05 13:03:44 <ThickAsThieves>	if i was buying tons of btc i might do that though
Apr 05 13:05:04 <MJR_>	also, why use clarkmoody now that bitcoinity.org is available?
Apr 05 13:05:04 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 13:05:05 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.845698 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00169476932309 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 05 13:05:22 <ThickAsThieves>	clarkmoody shows better livebooks... usually
Apr 05 13:05:35 <bgupta>	clarkmody is working again
Apr 05 13:05:37 <ThickAsThieves>	unless i'm missing somehting about bitcoinity
Apr 05 13:05:47 <MJR_>	ah yes
Apr 05 13:05:52 <Bugpowder>	They are complementary
Apr 05 13:05:57 <MJR_>	it does have live book...bitcoinity only has ticker
Apr 05 13:05:59 <bgupta>	sockets are working
Apr 05 13:06:08 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 13:06:11 <gribble>	There are currently 31152031 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11785518.8965 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0105 seconds
Apr 05 13:06:29 <bgupta>	;;asks 1000000
Apr 05 13:06:29 <gribble>	There are currently 56435.086 bitcoins offered at or under 1000000.0 USD, worth 120082663.339 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.3401 seconds
Apr 05 13:06:51 <ThickAsThieves>	number of coins for sale hasnt changed much this week
Apr 05 13:06:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.09 = 1.8 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:07:18 <bgupta>	It's gone down a bit was low 60s earlier
Apr 05 13:07:23 <Bugpowder>	I think we are going to challenge 150 today.
Apr 05 13:07:30 <ThickAsThieves>	really?
Apr 05 13:07:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.39 = 3.9 BTC [+]
Apr 05 13:07:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [+]
Apr 05 13:07:56 <bgupta>	a couple small walls to get through though..
Apr 05 13:08:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 149.94
Apr 05 13:08:16 <gribble>	There are currently 14148.485 bitcoins offered at or under 149.94 USD, worth 2058006.08163 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0019 seconds
Apr 05 13:08:21 <bgupta>	but the buy depth looks like a tidal wave.
Apr 05 13:08:49 <bgupta>	"small" being "actually not that small"
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Apr 05 13:09:30 <Bugpowder>	yeah.  The bid depth is up over 2 million from yesterday
Apr 05 13:09:39 <Bugpowder>	that's probably new money looking to buy
Apr 05 13:09:54 <Bugpowder>	could take us right up to the wall
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Apr 05 13:12:03 <bgupta>	looks like it's going up..
Apr 05 13:12:31 <bgupta>	buy flors keep getting thrown up
Apr 05 13:12:36 <Bugpowder>	yah.
Apr 05 13:12:50 <Bugpowder>	Maybe no dip this weekend too.  We already had the correction
Apr 05 13:12:55 <bgupta>	no real ceiling for a couple bucks
Apr 05 13:13:13 <Bugpowder>	oh my, another shift of a wall forward
Apr 05 13:13:17 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 13:13:20 <gribble>	There are currently 31152051 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11589246.0017 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0255 seconds
Apr 05 13:15:38 <jurov>	vircurex completely wiped from face of earth
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Apr 05 13:16:00 <kakobrekla>	jurov?
Apr 05 13:16:02 <bgupta>	vitcure? reently?
Apr 05 13:16:18 <bgupta>	recently?
Apr 05 13:16:20 <jurov>	kakobrekla?
Apr 05 13:16:22 <bgupta>	Or ddos
Apr 05 13:16:41 <kakobrekla>	whats with the curex
Apr 05 13:18:34 <jurov>	i don't know. ping says Time to live exceeded
Apr 05 13:20:27 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 13:20:28 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.152629 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00230985561052 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 05 13:20:34 <bgupta>	;;tiker
Apr 05 13:20:34 <gribble>	Error: "tiker" is not a valid command.
Apr 05 13:20:37 <error4733>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dHB2dVdiaEltUHAtTWlBcFhXQVBYeGc#gid=12
Apr 05 13:20:39 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 05 13:20:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.00001, Best ask: 140.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 140.00001, 24 hour volume: 60788.31684229, 24 hour low: 128.00100, 24 hour high: 140.75000, 24 hour vwap: 135.69764
Apr 05 13:21:51 <TomServo>	there is a routing loop in the path to vircurex.com
Apr 05 13:22:01 <TomServo>	could be DDOS related
Apr 05 13:22:59 <ThickAsThieves>	https://twitter.com/Vircurex/status/320224745402544128
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Apr 05 13:27:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4869 @ 0.00069564 = 3.3871 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 13:29:40 <error4733>	please erik, why, why publish a half report ?
Apr 05 13:32:21 <ThickAsThieves>	there's a report?
Apr 05 13:32:32 <troc>	tabs on bottom of spreadsheet ?
Apr 05 13:32:33 <error4733>	19:20
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Apr 05 13:33:55 <error4733>	but it's like a clear copy of feb, he start to fill it
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Apr 05 13:35:41 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe you are watching him work
Apr 05 13:35:47 <ThickAsThieves>	its not like he announced an update
Apr 05 13:36:43 <error4733>	yes, done
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Apr 05 13:37:02 <error4733>	net profit 890...
Apr 05 13:38:16 <error4733>	0.00000890
Apr 05 13:38:23 <Bugpowde_>	Sdice?
Apr 05 13:38:47 <error4733>	yep
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Apr 05 13:41:03 <Bugpowde_>	150 is going down. I know it
Apr 05 13:42:58 <error4733>	monday ?
Apr 05 13:43:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3410002 = 1.023 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:43:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.34100001 = 2.046 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:43:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.341 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:43:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.3401 = 4.0812 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:43:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.3400001 = 2.04 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:43:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3400001 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:43:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:43:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.34 = 3.74 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.34 = 6.8 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:44:18 <ThickAsThieves>	sell that sdice people!
Apr 05 13:44:25 <Bugpowde_>	Today
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Apr 05 13:44:59 <deadweasel>	i'll pick some more up.
Apr 05 13:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.4448 = 44.48 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 13:47:28 <error4733>	cmon it's friday, time to drink
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Apr 05 13:47:53 <error4733>	not to score btc
Apr 05 13:48:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.76897 = 5.3828 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:49:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.93 BTC [+]
Apr 05 13:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00329642 = 6.5928 BTC [+]
Apr 05 13:49:17 <ThickAsThieves>	142
Apr 05 13:49:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76898 BTC [+]
Apr 05 13:49:32 <Bugpowdurr>	NEXT!
Apr 05 13:49:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.76899 = 5.3829 BTC [+]
Apr 05 13:49:56 <ThickAsThieves>	143
Apr 05 13:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.185 = 2.37 BTC [+]
Apr 05 13:50:09 <Bugpowdurr>	I love clarkmoddy for the dings
Apr 05 13:50:11 <ThickAsThieves>	get ready for lag fest!
Apr 05 13:50:14 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 05 13:50:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.80000, Best ask: 141.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 141.80000, 24 hour volume: 60924.16404900, 24 hour low: 129.00100, 24 hour high: 141.89000, 24 hour vwap: 136.18292
Apr 05 13:50:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.769 = 3.076 BTC [+]
Apr 05 13:50:23 <error4733>	;;goxlax
Apr 05 13:50:24 <Bugpowdurr>	144
Apr 05 13:50:24 <gribble>	Error: "goxlax" is not a valid command.
Apr 05 13:50:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.77 = 4.62 BTC [+]
Apr 05 13:50:31 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 13:50:32 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 112.267925 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.224983664686 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 05 13:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4448 = 0.8896 BTC [-]
Apr 05 13:51:03 <Bugpowdurr>	;;calc 3448*143
Apr 05 13:51:04 <gribble>	493064
Apr 05 13:51:15 <Bugpowdurr>	$500,000 buy order
Apr 05 13:51:19 <error4733>	500k$ BAM
Apr 05 13:51:49 <Bugpowdurr>	ha
Apr 05 13:52:02 <Bugpowdurr>	and the buy wall at 141.6 is still there
Apr 05 13:52:06 <Bugpowdurr>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 13:52:10 <gribble>	There are currently 31143382 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11579625.3003 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0114 seconds
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Apr 05 13:53:42 <ThickAsThieves>	oh where oh where will we land after lad? nobody knows
Apr 05 13:53:47 <ThickAsThieves>	lag*
Apr 05 13:53:51 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 13:53:52 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 196.769549 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.394323973054 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 05 13:53:58 <benkay>	dear lord
Apr 05 13:55:29 <deadweasel>	i think gox does need ;;goxlax
Apr 05 13:55:36 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 05 13:56:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm beginning to believe this soft order thing really is the problemn
Apr 05 13:56:14 <ThickAsThieves>	it only lags when there are lots of orders in one direction
Apr 05 13:56:27 <ThickAsThieves>	thats not ddos
Apr 05 13:56:45 <Bugpowdurr>	it lags when a big order goes off and cleans out a big set of standing orders
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Apr 05 13:59:31 <mod6>	sup
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Apr 05 14:00:50 <ThickAsThieves>	Ola, Erik.
Apr 05 14:01:23 <evoorhees>	hola senior
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Apr 05 14:01:49 <ThickAsThieves>	what wonderful sdice updates do you bring us today?
Apr 05 14:01:57 <error4733>	poker ?
Apr 05 14:02:04 <ThickAsThieves>	in the rear
Apr 05 14:02:27 <pizzaman1337>	evoorhees: how's that bitinstant debit card going?
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Apr 05 14:03:31 <evoorhees>	oy vey
Apr 05 14:03:44 <jcpham>	oh my god wow
Apr 05 14:04:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 14:04:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 46.315103 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0928149478423 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
Apr 05 14:04:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tixker
Apr 05 14:04:31 <gribble>	Error: "tixker" is not a valid command.
Apr 05 14:04:31 <Bugpowdurr>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 14:04:34 <jcpham>	http://youtu.be/51GZ5hg_ZHk
Apr 05 14:04:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 05 14:04:35 <gribble>	There are currently 31144502 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11685628.9433 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0148 seconds
Apr 05 14:04:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.10100, Best ask: 143.98000, Bid-ask spread: 1.87900, Last trade: 142.10100, 24 hour volume: 60924.16404900, 24 hour low: 129.00100, 24 hour high: 141.89000, 24 hour vwap: 136.18292
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Apr 05 14:04:44 <jcpham>	oy vey, holy cow, oh my god, wow
Apr 05 14:04:56 <jcpham>	they say i'm gettin fresher every time i turn around
Apr 05 14:05:39 <jcpham>	day in, and day out, we trying to get this paper
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Apr 05 14:08:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 445.0881225 BTC to 50`000`000 shares, 890 satoshi per share
Apr 05 14:08:59 <ThickAsThieves>	don't spend it all in one place!
Apr 05 14:09:09 <evoorhees>	s.dice div paid
Apr 05 14:09:14 <evoorhees>	oh bot beat me to it :)
Apr 05 14:09:31 <mod6>	nice
Apr 05 14:10:01 <evoorhees>	my apologies for the low performing month, the 1920 btc jackpot really put a damper on things
Apr 05 14:11:05 <mod6>	well, jackpots are part of the game! and keeps interest high.
Apr 05 14:11:20 <deadweasel>	it's gambling.  i'll take the opportunity to buy more sdice.  ;)
Apr 05 14:12:08 <ThickAsThieves>	will ther ebe any adjustments to min/max bids going forward?
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Apr 05 14:12:17 <ThickAsThieves>	to deal with BTC rising value
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Apr 05 14:13:11 <[\\\]>	;;ident evoorhees
Apr 05 14:13:12 <gribble>	Nick 'evoorhees', with hostmask 'evoorhees!~evoorhees@200.108.54.73', is not identified.
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Apr 05 14:13:51 <evoorhees>	ThickAsThieves - yes probably
Apr 05 14:14:02 <evoorhees>	has this been a matter of contention?
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Apr 05 14:14:11 <ThickAsThieves>	only in my own head
Apr 05 14:14:15 <evoorhees>	hehe
Apr 05 14:14:25 <ThickAsThieves>	just seems logical
Apr 05 14:14:38 <[\\\]>	increasing the max bid?
Apr 05 14:14:44 <ThickAsThieves>	any new features coming soon?
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Apr 05 14:15:00 <kakobrekla>	withdrawals will be depricated
Apr 05 14:15:19 <ThickAsThieves>	feel free to tell me to 'wait for the damn update on forums plz"
Apr 05 14:15:29 <[\\\]>	ThickAsThieves: wait for the damn update on forums plz
Apr 05 14:15:35 <ThickAsThieves>	not you
Apr 05 14:15:38 <ThickAsThieves>	:P
Apr 05 14:15:44 <[\\\]>	you didn't specify
Apr 05 14:15:57 <ThickAsThieves>	okay you can tell me too
Apr 05 14:16:01 <[\\\]>	yay
Apr 05 14:16:10 <[\\\]>	but since I've already told you, I'm done.
Apr 05 14:16:44 <evoorhees>	I'll provide a good update in about 2 weeks I think
Apr 05 14:16:52 <[\\\]>	2 weeks?!?
Apr 05 14:16:59 <ThickAsThieves>	but but
Apr 05 14:17:01 <evoorhees>	yep
Apr 05 14:17:03 <[\\\]>	is that a bfl 2 weeks?
Apr 05 14:17:07 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 05 14:17:14 <evoorhees>	lol
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Apr 05 14:17:19 <ThickAsThieves>	nice Panamanian IP
Apr 05 14:17:27 <evoorhees>	thanks
Apr 05 14:17:35 <evoorhees>	I'm officially a non US resident
Apr 05 14:17:38 <evoorhees>	thank god
Apr 05 14:17:47 <ThickAsThieves>	jealous
Apr 05 14:17:53 <[\\\]>	aww
Apr 05 14:17:58 <[\\\]>	how are you gonna be jailed now?
Apr 05 14:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 63 @ 0.3391 = 21.3633 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:18:09 <[\\\]>	you take all the fun out of it
Apr 05 14:18:18 <error4733>	well done, just in time !
Apr 05 14:18:27 <evoorhees>	just in time for what?
Apr 05 14:18:44 <benkay>	the eternally impending us crackdown ;)
Apr 05 14:18:47 <ThickAsThieves>	a hot summer
Apr 05 14:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:19:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.3191 = 2.5528 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:19:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.31900001 = 0.957 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:19:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3161 = 0.6322 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:19:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.31600001 = 3.16 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:19:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.3155 = 11.0425 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:19:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 122 @ 0.315 = 38.43 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:19:22 <ThickAsThieves>	havelock no like sdice divs
Apr 05 14:19:36 <evoorhees>	I imagine any "US crackdown" will be in 3-5 years and will be broad and epic
Apr 05 14:19:45 <evoorhees>	but for now, bitcoin just got legal status
Apr 05 14:19:53 <evoorhees>	I don't think the gov has any intention of a crackdown just yet
Apr 05 14:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.315 = 0.63 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:20:40 <error4733>	no but more easy for you outside US to deal with large sum of gambling income
Apr 05 14:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.3 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:22:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.3 = 9 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:22:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
Apr 05 14:22:10 <ThickAsThieves>	what income, just mario coins
Apr 05 14:22:13 <error4733>	3/5 years, a long long way !!
Apr 05 14:22:24 <error4733>	haha, 100% true
Apr 05 14:22:51 <error4733>	for my "IRS" it's like WoW gold
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Apr 05 14:26:03 <tiberiusiv>	hi evoorhees
Apr 05 14:26:25 <evoorhees>	hi
Apr 05 14:26:38 <tiberiusiv>	where did you take up residency
Apr 05 14:26:54 <ThickAsThieves>	hi
Apr 05 14:27:41 <evoorhees>	that's private, but my IP shows panama ;)
Apr 05 14:28:06 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees can you reduce the sdice min bets as many now cant afford to play
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Apr 05 14:28:43 <ThickAsThieves>	$1.40 is unaffordable!
Apr 05 14:28:49 <tiberiusiv>	and its been showing up in playing volume declines
Apr 05 14:29:06 <tiberiusiv>	1.40 is alot, thats high roller in vegas for slots
Apr 05 14:30:03 <evoorhees>	I agree
Apr 05 14:30:05 <evoorhees>	I'll change it soon
Apr 05 14:31:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00439 = 0.0878 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 14:35:03 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 05 14:35:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.91000, Best ask: 143.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59000, Last trade: 142.90000, 24 hour volume: 66234.91364395, 24 hour low: 130.24303, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 137.17646
Apr 05 14:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00069796 = 3.9784 BTC [+]
Apr 05 14:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00070136 = 9.6437 BTC [+]
Apr 05 14:36:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00070503 = 0.2468 BTC [+]
Apr 05 14:41:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
Apr 05 14:42:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 14:48:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00070503 = 14.7704 BTC [+]
Apr 05 14:49:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 14:49:29 <gribble>	There are currently 31146741 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11500405.32 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.0569 seconds
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Apr 05 14:49:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --buy 2500
Apr 05 14:49:53 <gribble>	A market order to buy 2500 bitcoins right now would take 361889.8503 USD and would take the last price up to 145.9200 USD, resulting in an average price of 144.7559 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0002 seconds
Apr 05 14:50:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --buy 3500
Apr 05 14:50:01 <gribble>	A market order to buy 3500 bitcoins right now would take 508025.3582 USD and would take the last price up to 146.9727 USD, resulting in an average price of 145.1501 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 7.8158 seconds
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Apr 05 14:50:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think we'll see 150 today
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Apr 05 14:51:31 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 14:51:32 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 18.559306 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0371926414237 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
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Apr 05 14:55:26 <[\\\]>	evoorhees, are there plans to release/sell more shares?
Apr 05 14:55:59 <Guest32733>	no
Apr 05 14:56:05 <Guest32733>	ack sorry, let me identify
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Apr 05 14:56:39 <evoorhees>	here now
Apr 05 14:56:44 <evoorhees>	no, no plans to release more shares
Apr 05 14:56:53 <[\\\]>	so it should be pretty stable as to the float at this time
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Apr 05 15:00:40 <evoorhees>	well that's up to the marketplace :)
Apr 05 15:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00070706 = 4.5959 BTC [+]
Apr 05 15:08:54 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees how does it feel going from broke to 20mil+ net worth in under a year?
Apr 05 15:09:25 <evoorhees>	lol my net worth is nowhere near that
Apr 05 15:09:33 <evoorhees>	give it another year maybe
Apr 05 15:10:19 <tiberiusiv>	ironically we should all thank america
Apr 05 15:10:46 <tiberiusiv>	doubt btc would have existed or obtained its success if it wasnt to US gov policies
Apr 05 15:11:04 <tiberiusiv>	for*
Apr 05 15:12:11 <MJR_>	evoorhees: hey there!
Apr 05 15:12:32 <evoorhees>	hi
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Apr 05 15:16:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 15:24:35 <jurov>	coinbr users got paid from s.dice, too
Apr 05 15:26:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.00349 = 3.49 BTC [-]
Apr 05 15:27:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.00349 = 3.49 BTC [-]
Apr 05 15:27:58 <pgp>	friday selloff coming?
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Apr 05 15:28:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 420 @ 0.00349 = 1.4658 BTC [-]
Apr 05 15:30:03 <TomServo>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 15:30:05 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 29.336976 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0587909714308 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
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Apr 05 15:31:47 <MJR_>	s.dice still turned a profit after that month
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Apr 05 15:33:13 <dub>	looks like AM added some hashing
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Apr 05 15:33:24 <dub>	up to 7Th on guld now
Apr 05 15:33:29 <dub>	guild*\
Apr 05 15:33:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00349 = 0.1047 BTC [-]
Apr 05 15:34:43 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
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Apr 05 15:34:47 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229837 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 2002 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 14 hours, 51 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9604168.81893 | Estimated Percent Change: 25.16837
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Apr 05 15:34:57 <dub>	;;nethash
Apr 05 15:34:58 <gribble>	54210.8599443
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Apr 05 15:40:57 <dub>	there they go 7,019.47 GH/s
Apr 05 15:41:24 <dub>	climbing rapidly
Apr 05 15:43:57 <pgp>	http://www.cnbc.com/id/100619555
Apr 05 15:44:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.779 = 11.685 BTC [+]
Apr 05 15:44:09 <pgp>	offshore bank accounts are so passe...
Apr 05 15:44:27 <pgp>	time to move to bitcoins...
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Apr 05 15:45:34 <BUgpowder>	This should be good for bitcoin...  http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/292071-obama-budget-to-target-wealthy-iras
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Apr 05 15:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3394 @ 0.00313722 = 10.6477 BTC [-]
Apr 05 15:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00313722 = 0.4706 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 15:55:21 <BUgpowder>	wheeee
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Apr 05 16:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	ah so sdice paid ?
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Apr 05 16:02:22 <pizzaman1337>	yep
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Apr 05 16:03:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 05 16:03:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 16:03:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;assbotiloveyou
Apr 05 16:03:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01301 BTC [+]
Apr 05 16:03:38 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowde_> 150 is going down. I know it << lol
Apr 05 16:03:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.82500, Best ask: 143.86603, Bid-ask spread: 1.04103, Last trade: 143.86603, 24 hour volume: 69165.45857475, 24 hour low: 130.24303, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 137.79288
Apr 05 16:03:42 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 70.001993 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.140283210191 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 05 16:03:44 <gribble>	Error: "assbotiloveyou" is not a valid command.
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Apr 05 16:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	<evoorhees> just in time for what?<<< poor guy. just because they're not after him doesn't mean he's not paranoid.
Apr 05 16:05:45 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd leave the US for the hell of it if my wife was down with it
Apr 05 16:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves you don't have chains in the house ?
Apr 05 16:06:04 <ThickAsThieves>	no sir
Apr 05 16:06:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not that type
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Apr 05 16:06:42 <ThickAsThieves>	more of a live and let live kinda guy
Apr 05 16:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	hey, me too!
Apr 05 16:07:15 *	jurov is "kill and let 'em croak"
Apr 05 16:07:30 <jurov>	(not rly)
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Apr 05 16:07:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7799 BTC [+]
Apr 05 16:08:26 <MJR_>	so...in a deflationary currency, 0% interest is pretty good
Apr 05 16:08:41 <mircea_popescu>	mjr epsilon^
Apr 05 16:08:47 <mircea_popescu>	epsilon% i mean
Apr 05 16:08:58 <ThickAsThieves>	i also havent pinpointed a specific place and argument for moving there either
Apr 05 16:09:22 <MJR_>	well, getting back the same exact amount you invested is a net win
Apr 05 16:09:26 <MJR_>	in purchasing power
Apr 05 16:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	"honey.... let's move to cancun, a lot of cheap sluts over there and they have bigger tits than you do"
Apr 05 16:09:36 <MJR_>	in S.DICE's case, you have a positive number
Apr 05 16:09:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i have at least convinced here we need to get the hell out of Florida
Apr 05 16:09:54 <topace|2>	mircea_popescu: could you add the push date/time to the push receipt ?
Apr 05 16:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ this is true in principle. bitcoin inflation is still marked however.
Apr 05 16:10:06 <topace|2>	i have no way of knowing if this push request to havelock was before or after the sdice dividend
Apr 05 16:10:18 <ThickAsThieves>	sneaky!
Apr 05 16:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	topace|2 well the idea is to allow the push-er this freedom
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Apr 05 16:10:34 <mircea_popescu>	you can count it from the time he shows it to you
Apr 05 16:10:52 <ThickAsThieves>	surely you can log your own push incoming requests no?
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Apr 05 16:11:00 <jurov>	topace|2: the gpg signature contains time, no?
Apr 05 16:11:01 <topace|2>	ThickAsThieves: nope
Apr 05 16:11:10 <mircea_popescu>	topace|2 you see a problem with that approach ?
Apr 05 16:11:30 <MJR_>	bitcoin is inflationary? on a net basis...i would say it is deflationary now (the goods available are increasing faster than the currency)
Apr 05 16:11:32 <topace|2>	yes, i have no idea if the dividend i received includes the dividend for the units that were pushed or not
Apr 05 16:11:42 <MJR_>	just a thought
Apr 05 16:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	well that you can resolve by math, no ? divide net by units ?
Apr 05 16:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ on a monetarist basis. further currency introduced at a fixed rate, about 10% annualised.
Apr 05 16:12:30 <topace|2>	sure for this one instance, i only have one pending push
Apr 05 16:12:38 <topace|2>	but what if i had like, 10 push requests pending
Apr 05 16:12:46 <topace|2>	how do i know which should receive the dividend, and which shouldnt
Apr 05 16:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	i see what you mean.
Apr 05 16:13:02 <topace|2>	aka, which i should approve the push for BEFORE the dividend is paid, and which i should wait to approve the push until after
Apr 05 16:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	the thing here is that this sorta conflicts on a philosophical level, as in, i'd rather have tx's dated by parties than by central system.
Apr 05 16:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	i'll have an argument over this topic again tho.
Apr 05 16:13:44 <jurov>	topace|2: use extra account for pushes
Apr 05 16:13:54 <jurov>	i'm fortunate to have one
Apr 05 16:14:12 <ThickAsThieves>	does that mean coinbr to havelock pushes are coming soon?
Apr 05 16:14:52 <topace|2>	ThickAsThieves: its on our very long todo list
Apr 05 16:14:55 <jurov>	not necessarily :)
Apr 05 16:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	but as a prototype : "21:08 <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 445.0881225 BTC to". all pushes you received prior to 21:08 you count as before
Apr 05 16:15:05 <mircea_popescu>	all pushes you received after you count as after.
Apr 05 16:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	is this a problem ?
Apr 05 16:15:32 <jurov>	yes you "just" have to call stat every few seconds
Apr 05 16:15:40 <topace|2>	not a problem for me, but if someone makes the push before, but doesnt post it to havelock until after, then they completely miss out on the dividend
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Apr 05 16:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	topace|2 that'd be their problem.
Apr 05 16:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	btc and btc-derivatives are cif not fob.
Apr 05 16:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	i think that outlook is crucial to allow us further development cheaper
Apr 05 16:16:57 <jurov>	cheaper for mpex, yea
Apr 05 16:17:30 <mircea_popescu>	cheaper for the developer.
Apr 05 16:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	we do not have the resources to sustain a consumerist attitude on the users.
Apr 05 16:17:47 <mircea_popescu>	let their government pay us to do that.
Apr 05 16:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	just as soon as they figure out how.
Apr 05 16:18:34 <jurov>	i just shrugged over it, write all balance changes to db and then resolve shit manually
Apr 05 16:18:38 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you slept with my banker
Apr 05 16:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i do a lot of sleeping with bankers
Apr 05 16:19:06 <thestringpuller>	lol jkjk
Apr 05 16:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	but seriously, consider the converse approach : user is actually incentivised to time-attack the entire system
Apr 05 16:19:19 <topace|2>	mircea_popescu: pm
Apr 05 16:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	it will become possible if difficult to try and time it so he appears to deserve it both ways
Apr 05 16:19:42 <topace|2>	well ill just go with this for now, kinda in a rush to get out of here
Apr 05 16:19:45 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.Dice
Apr 05 16:19:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00313722 / 0.00326249 / 0.00333333 (17108 shares, 55.81 BTC), 7D: 0.0031 / 0.00324529 / 0.00439992 (539474 shares, 1,750.75 BTC), 30D: 0.0031 / 0.00372533 / 0.006 (1704526 shares, 6,349.93 BTC)
Apr 05 16:19:47 <topace|2>	so ill just get this paid and worry about it later
Apr 05 16:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 445.0881225  / 50
Apr 05 16:19:53 <gribble>	8.90176245
Apr 05 16:20:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 05 16:20:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 93.3570601 / 108.2470225 / 135.80742037 (19613 shares, 8,037.73 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 05 16:20:42 <thestringpuller>	no new options have been bought?
Apr 05 16:20:49 <thestringpuller>	is it like all calls?
Apr 05 16:21:07 <jurov>	user is actually incentivised to time-attack the entire system << i don't get it?
Apr 05 16:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	8`037.73 (35.1 / 64.9) i see
Apr 05 16:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	jurov if you go by the mpex issued timer, it would be (at least in theory) possible for the user to at least attempt
Apr 05 16:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	to make a push request so that the time on it shows he got in early to deserve dividends on PT
Apr 05 16:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	but also have already the dividends on MPEx
Apr 05 16:22:09 <mircea_popescu>	we'd have to keep clock sync for isntance.
Apr 05 16:22:31 <jurov>	O.o so i can't rely on the time??????
Apr 05 16:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	you can rely on time for mpex.
Apr 05 16:22:41 <jurov>	in the Dividend statjson part
Apr 05 16:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	can you rely on time for mpex matching havelock's server time ?!
Apr 05 16:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	no two computers are on the same clock
Apr 05 16:23:26 <jurov>	no i understood topace asking for a possibility to compare mpex-issued timestamps
Apr 05 16:23:40 <mircea_popescu>	o
Apr 05 16:23:42 <jurov>	one from STAT, the other one from push receipt
Apr 05 16:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	but his stat would necessarily be a little off the actual divtime
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Apr 05 16:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	that interval would then be attackable.
Apr 05 16:24:37 <jurov>	not STAT timestamp. the dividends timestamp written in stat
Apr 05 16:24:56 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is that the call to put ratio?
Apr 05 16:25:03 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller ye
Apr 05 16:25:15 <thestringpuller>	whoa 64.9% puts?!?!?!?
Apr 05 16:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	jurov that may be workable
Apr 05 16:26:00 <thestringpuller>	i am scared for the next 3/4th of the month
Apr 05 16:26:01 <mircea_popescu>	which is why i say, i'll have this argued again
Apr 05 16:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.31 = 2.79 BTC [+]
Apr 05 16:26:14 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 05 16:26:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.91900000 / 1.92266667 / 1.93000000 (6 shares, 11.53600000 BTC), 7D: 1.87000000 / 1.98205865 / 2.08000000 (104 shares, 206.13409996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.81361388 / 2.08000000 (720 shares, 1305.80199240 BTC)
Apr 05 16:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you'd also prefer timestamp on push receipts ?
Apr 05 16:26:32 <jurov>	no need to argue, if the push timestamp can be extracted from gpg signaature
Apr 05 16:26:53 <jurov>	i think it is supported, hence no problem
Apr 05 16:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	i don't recall that being a documented feature ;/
Apr 05 16:27:24 <thestringpuller>	you can get timestamps from gpg i think
Apr 05 16:27:28 <thestringpuller>	tells you time signes
Apr 05 16:27:30 <thestringpuller>	tells you time signed
Apr 05 16:27:46 <mircea_popescu>	there's a difference between "you can get" and "developer assures you it's workable"
Apr 05 16:27:52 <jurov>	gpg: Signature made Pi  5. apríl 2013, 21:17:58 CEST using DSA key ID CFE0F3E1
Apr 05 16:28:11 <jurov>	^^^ just threw my recent DEPOSIT response into gpg
Apr 05 16:28:20 <jurov>	so the time is there
Apr 05 16:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
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Apr 05 16:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	compare a stat's announced time with it's sigtime
Apr 05 16:29:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu what is attackable though? i would think risk is on the pt ooerator not mpex
Apr 05 16:29:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [+]
Apr 05 16:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller even so.
Apr 05 16:29:24 <mircea_popescu>	the argument was "allows us to develop cheaper".
Apr 05 16:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	guy down the road being massacred is no consolation to me.
Apr 05 16:29:44 <thestringpuller>	develop cheaper what?
Apr 05 16:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	everything.
Apr 05 16:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	stuff like the pushing around.
Apr 05 16:30:17 <thestringpuller>	but how so? to steal what?
Apr 05 16:30:27 <mircea_popescu>	get doubledivs.
Apr 05 16:30:34 <mircea_popescu>	ity's really the doublespend attack
Apr 05 16:30:43 <thestringpuller>	from mpex?!?
Apr 05 16:30:54 <mircea_popescu>	look.
Apr 05 16:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3008 = 3.008 BTC [-]
Apr 05 16:31:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 90 @ 0.3 = 27 BTC [-]
Apr 05 16:31:06 <thestringpuller>	explain like i am 4
Apr 05 16:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	whenever there's three entities moving payments on the internet there's this classical well documented problem of the doublespend.
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Apr 05 16:31:19 <mircea_popescu>	that you'll have to read up on.
Apr 05 16:31:41 <thestringpuller>	i see
Apr 05 16:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin solves it by the blockchain solution
Apr 05 16:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	mpex solves it by the "fu, all times are construed to our best advantage" solution
Apr 05 16:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	this is way cheaper than 50TH/s
Apr 05 16:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	also way faster than 10 minute blocks.
Apr 05 16:33:29 <jurov>	the sigtime is same (down to seconds) as the one in stat
Apr 05 16:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i'm impressed.
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Apr 05 16:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Apr 05 16:33:53 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.105636119843 seconds
Apr 05 16:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	meh, then again it would be.
Apr 05 16:34:02 <taub>	oo breakout soon
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Apr 05 16:34:07 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 05 16:34:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.90000, Best ask: 144.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 144.00000, 24 hour volume: 70257.63553139, 24 hour low: 130.24303, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 138.22468
Apr 05 16:34:32 <jurov>	even if it would be a second or two apart, that is well inside requirement for this application
Apr 05 16:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	i'd be worried if it's anything other than a second anyway
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Apr 05 16:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	"Hey @jimcramer can we set up a time to chat about Bitcoin? If your not convinced, I'll give you 5 BTC for free #Bitcoin #BitInstant"
Apr 05 16:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	shremspells.
Apr 05 16:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	"@maxkeiser 1h Despite state-orchestrated massive DDoS attacks on BTC exchanges this week; BTC inching up toward record high territory." jesus twitter is just like reddit
Apr 05 16:38:44 <jurov>	aka ganjix getting invited to CNBC
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Apr 05 16:43:44 <benkay>	stop arguing with proles, dude
Apr 05 16:43:48 <benkay>	the proles*
Apr 05 16:44:15 <benkay>	for a nominally epic top you sure do enjoy exposing yourself to mental anguish
Apr 05 16:44:21 <benkay>	;)
Apr 05 16:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	benkay max keiser is in particular a funny one. day before yest he was like, o, i predict, 300 dollars per btc.
Apr 05 16:44:38 <mircea_popescu>	i told him to stfu, he deleted that tweet, now he's
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Apr 05 16:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	@maxkeiser 1h
Apr 05 16:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	My trade idea earlier in week of parking a few $150 priced BTC in Silver is paying off nicely.
Apr 05 16:45:21 <pigeons>	usagi got a twitter
Apr 05 16:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	is he leveraging the synergy ?
Apr 05 16:47:05 <benkay>	what does that mean, to park $150 priced BTC in silver?
Apr 05 16:47:20 <benkay>	convert btc to silver holdings?
Apr 05 16:47:24 <jurov>	bought usagis asset?
Apr 05 16:48:09 <mircea_popescu>	benkay that retrospectively, he sold some btc.
Apr 05 16:48:29 <MJR_>	lol maxkeiser and shrem, i saw those on twitter
Apr 05 16:48:40 <MJR_>	i am shooting for squawkbox
Apr 05 16:48:45 <MJR_>	rather than cramer
Apr 05 16:48:58 <MJR_>	better traders in the early morning
Apr 05 16:49:11 <jurov>	but rly, i'm looking forward to some high-profile blogger getting caught in nether parts of bitcoin "security" market
Apr 05 16:49:14 <MJR_>	cramer is for housewives etc
Apr 05 16:49:26 <benkay>	can't really say as I understand the value in paying much attention to the newly minted chattering classes on twitter, especially w/r/t high finance
Apr 05 16:49:39 <benkay>	don't know how much i care about people who buy and sell individual coins
Apr 05 16:49:56 <MJR_>	my philosophy is this
Apr 05 16:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	benkay but it's funny.
Apr 05 16:50:09 <MJR_>	one million people buying one coin = one million coins on the buy side
Apr 05 16:50:29 <mircea_popescu>	o look, it broke through or what was it ?
Apr 05 16:50:43 <MJR_>	we have to enjoy this volatility while it lasts, it won't be here much longer i think
Apr 05 16:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ one woman's arm = 2lbs of sweet caress.
Apr 05 16:50:56 <benkay>	when i want funny, i go to the dog park and watch my dog hump other dogs
Apr 05 16:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	2mn fireants = 2lbs of pure pain
Apr 05 16:51:14 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: good point
Apr 05 16:51:20 <benkay>	it's doubly amusing because he's a pitbull and people get anxious
Apr 05 16:51:21 <MJR_>	not sure how it relates though...
Apr 05 16:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	nothing's more dangerous for a new issuance than a large number of clueless investors.
Apr 05 16:51:42 *	jcpham throws money at the screen
Apr 05 16:51:52 <MJR_>	well...i think if those people actually are worried about losing the ~150 then they aren't who i'm talking about
Apr 05 16:51:53 <mircea_popescu>	it's like putting a seedling through a sandblaster.
Apr 05 16:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ OF COURSE THEY ARE
Apr 05 16:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	it;'s all they have
Apr 05 16:52:18 <MJR_>	i'm saying, "if you saw it on the news, if you are interested, just buy one and hold it a year at least"
Apr 05 16:52:24 <MJR_>	watch the ride, learn about it
Apr 05 16:52:33 <MJR_>	don't trade it, for the love of god
Apr 05 16:52:35 <MJR_>	just hold it
Apr 05 16:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	yea, because a. they listen and b. they even comprehend wtf the words you just say mean
Apr 05 16:52:38 <jcpham>	i give away $150 to my friends
Apr 05 16:52:42 <jcpham>	here, free money
Apr 05 16:52:46 <jcpham>	they say thanks
Apr 05 16:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham i only do that with women.
Apr 05 16:53:05 <benkay>	you don't give things away, mp
Apr 05 16:53:06 <benkay>	don't lie
Apr 05 16:53:06 <MJR_>	all i'm saying is that most of my friends could give two shits about 150
Apr 05 16:53:14 <MJR_>	but they do enjoy being "part of the story"
Apr 05 16:53:17 <jcpham>	all of the women i know are my wife's friends so i can't fuck them
Apr 05 16:53:22 <jcpham>	so they get nothing!
Apr 05 16:53:22 <benkay>	i know oyour qpq
Apr 05 16:53:27 <MJR_>	or being able to say "i was in that back when they were $150"
Apr 05 16:53:30 <benkay>	you can't sleep with your friends wives?
Apr 05 16:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	benkay o yea ? https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/320175664927997953
Apr 05 16:53:42 <mircea_popescu>	what nao benkay ? what nao ? hm ? HUM ?
Apr 05 16:53:42 <jcpham>	working on it benkay
Apr 05 16:53:50 <jcpham>	may have to trade in for a newer model
Apr 05 16:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2893 = 1.4465 BTC [-]
Apr 05 16:54:02 <benkay>	mircea_popescu i see an exchange there
Apr 05 16:54:11 <benkay>	mircea_popescu no gift
Apr 05 16:54:12 <mircea_popescu>	no, it's me giving shit away
Apr 05 16:54:43 <benkay>	pretty sure your buying nudity
Apr 05 16:54:46 <benkay>	you're
Apr 05 16:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	im not buying it.
Apr 05 16:54:58 <mircea_popescu>	i'm sponsoring it.
Apr 05 16:55:03 <benkay>	hurr durr
Apr 05 16:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	she's not bad lookin' either.
Apr 05 16:55:21 <benkay>	you and i both know this is a dumb conversation, you gave me something of relatively significant value recently
Apr 05 16:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	yeah lol, but why not continue something dumb into the ground :D
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Apr 05 16:55:48 <benkay>	since when have we not :)
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Apr 05 16:56:09 <MJR_>	that IS how this became the best channel on free node
Apr 05 16:56:17 <mircea_popescu>	i was mostly trying to figure out if your mom told you. seems not. whew.
Apr 05 16:56:36 <benkay>	for an aristocrat you really scrape the barrel
Apr 05 16:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	i'm one of those perverse aristrocrats.
Apr 05 16:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	like the stupid guy in point-counterpoint
Apr 05 16:57:27 <benkay>	do you read Unqualified Reservations?
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Apr 05 16:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	ocasionally
Apr 05 16:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	kinda served the guy, he never answered
Apr 05 16:58:03 <benkay>	ooh, care to link?
Apr 05 16:58:57 <MJR_>	for some reason, my friend loves max keiser
Apr 05 16:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4448 = 0.8896 BTC [-]
Apr 05 16:59:09 <MJR_>	i think he may be trolling me
Apr 05 16:59:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/
Apr 05 16:59:41 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ nothing wrong with him as far as tv personalities go.
Apr 05 17:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28800001 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.288 = 2.304 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.285 = 2.85 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.284 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.28 = 2.8 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.278 = 2.224 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.278 = 0.556 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.276666 = 0.5533 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 34 @ 0.275 = 9.35 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:12 <MJR_>	its his tv personality that bothers me...he appears to be on meth...kinda disheveled
Apr 05 17:01:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.275 = 6.6 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070705 = 0.9192 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:01:24 <MJR_>	fuck
Apr 05 17:01:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7585 @ 0.00070706 = 5.3631 BTC [+]
Apr 05 17:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6215 @ 0.00070719 = 4.3952 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 17:02:19 <mircea_popescu>	.275 srtsly ?!@
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Apr 05 17:05:38 <MJR_>	i know
Apr 05 17:07:02 <MJR_>	this is kinda great on one level
Apr 05 17:07:08 <MJR_>	hmmm...
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Apr 05 17:07:46 <MJR_>	;;calc 890/276100
Apr 05 17:07:46 <gribble>	0.00322346975733
Apr 05 17:08:07 <MJR_>	;;calc 0.00322346975733*12
Apr 05 17:08:08 <gribble>	0.038681637088
Apr 05 17:08:28 <MJR_>	almost 4 percent using one of the worst months as the test case
Apr 05 17:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	and in bitcoin
Apr 05 17:08:41 <MJR_>	and in reference to monetarist...exactly
Apr 05 17:08:44 <mircea_popescu>	people have no cvlue. they'll learn.
Apr 05 17:09:02 <MJR_>	yes, but hopefully i can scoop up a big chunk of the float before they do
Apr 05 17:09:05 <mircea_popescu>	the ability to make bad deals is what teaches people to stick to good ones.
Apr 05 17:09:10 <MJR_>	good point
Apr 05 17:09:23 <MJR_>	i am only annoyed from a "show the best performance" perspective
Apr 05 17:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	yes well... here's the thing :
Apr 05 17:09:34 <MJR_>	i am very happy from a "get the best investment" perspective
Apr 05 17:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	a lot of newbs playing around introduce distortion in the marketplace.
Apr 05 17:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	let's consider the life of Noob.
Apr 05 17:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	actually fuck this, ima wriote an article, brb.
Apr 05 17:09:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0033333 = 3.3333 BTC [+]
Apr 05 17:10:02 <MJR_>	i mean, this IS on 13% of the shares...and only on the small percentage of which are traded
Apr 05 17:10:05 <pizzaman1337>	lulz
Apr 05 17:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.276 BTC [+]
Apr 05 17:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 28 @ 0.275 = 7.7 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.309 BTC [+]
Apr 05 17:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27070001 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 17:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2707 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:20:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 17:26:59 <pgp>	christ...  SDICE...
Apr 05 17:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.425 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 17:30:49 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 05 17:30:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.62742, Best ask: 143.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37258, Last trade: 142.62742, 24 hour volume: 69848.45947306, 24 hour low: 130.24303, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 138.48970
Apr 05 17:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2999 BTC [+]
Apr 05 17:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-broad-and-the-million-fireants-a-parable/
Apr 05 17:32:21 <mircea_popescu>	there.
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Apr 05 17:34:39 <pgp>	mp: good article
Apr 05 17:36:06 <pgp>	rise in btcusd is nice 'n all, but the mad rush in by noobs does have its downsides...
Apr 05 17:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	yeh. trust, but verify, grow but fortify.
Apr 05 17:37:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 210 @ 0.0032 = 0.672 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:37:22 <jurov>	topace|2: trying to register on havelock, no mail comes, nothing in spam folder either
Apr 05 17:37:46 <pigeons>	go away jurov
Apr 05 17:37:54 <pizzaman1337>	"He does not understand these words, as is the case with all the words he uses." < best line
Apr 05 17:38:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, it's always funny when people resort to definitions in an argument with the avg redditor.
Apr 05 17:38:22 <mircea_popescu>	im like... yeah, right. he uses that system.
Apr 05 17:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's how he got confused in the first place.
Apr 05 17:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.305 BTC [+]
Apr 05 17:39:09 <pgp>	lol
Apr 05 17:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	friend calls you on the phone, "hey, i'm stranded at the airport" "well... get in your car and here's driving directions"
Apr 05 17:39:57 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 05 17:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	that's why he's calling you. cause he has a car at the airport.
Apr 05 17:40:45 <pgp>	lmao
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Apr 05 17:41:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 37 @ 0.00349 = 0.1291 BTC [+]
Apr 05 17:42:36 <pgp>	seriously, though, only bad things happen to noobs and bad things can happen easily in bitcoins if you don't know what you're doing...
Apr 05 17:42:45 <pgp>	combustible combination...
Apr 05 17:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	verily.
Apr 05 17:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	i think we'll have to slowly change the sales pitch on bitcoin from
Apr 05 17:43:41 <pgp>	i just hope that bitcoin public image doesn't get too bruised getting through this growth spurt
Apr 05 17:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	"everyone's invited" to "this is dangerous"
Apr 05 17:44:06 <pgp>	then more will want in!
Apr 05 17:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	hm
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Apr 05 17:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	well at least they'd have had been warned.
Apr 05 17:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	fuck
Apr 05 17:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	how does engluish  make the past subjonctive again ?
Apr 05 17:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999999 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:45:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000656 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
Apr 05 17:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	[at the time in the past we're discussing, this other event had already definitely happened in the past], how do you say that
Apr 05 17:46:17 <pgp>	mjr and I are FLOODED with requests from our collegues, friends, and drinking buddies to buy bitcoins FOR them...
Apr 05 17:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	brokerage ftw
Apr 05 17:46:34 <pgp>	I suppose that's safer then them doing it themselves - lol
Apr 05 17:47:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3235 @ 0.00070719 = 2.2878 BTC [+]
Apr 05 17:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13465 @ 0.00070873 = 9.543 BTC [+]
Apr 05 17:47:16 <pgp>	would that we would have?
Apr 05 17:47:21 <pgp>	past subjunctive
Apr 05 17:48:01 <benkay>	mircea_popescu: i advocate that perspective daily
Apr 05 17:48:06 <benkay>	bitcoins are a sophisticated financial instrument
Apr 05 17:48:13 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: your article is intriguing
Apr 05 17:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	pgp turns out would is auxiliary there, not personal, so it was correct
Apr 05 17:48:20 <mircea_popescu>	they'd have been warned.
Apr 05 17:48:36 <thestringpuller>	does this add to the situation wednesday?
Apr 05 17:48:51 <pgp>	ye
Apr 05 17:48:52 <benkay>	i say: "you know how your beloved government doesn't let you invest in profitable things? bitcoins are exactly the kind of thing you're not supposed to invest in."
Apr 05 17:48:52 <pgp>	yes
Apr 05 17:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller how do you mean ?
Apr 05 17:49:06 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 05 17:49:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.80001, Best ask: 143.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.69998, Last trade: 143.77119, 24 hour volume: 69859.70987158, 24 hour low: 130.24303, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 138.54781
Apr 05 17:49:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1790 @ 0.0032 = 5.728 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno why people hate on gmo food. these grapes are the size of prunes, taste like grape juice and have no seeds at all.
Apr 05 17:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	looking forward to the woman made out of eyes, tits and ankles only.
Apr 05 17:50:42 <ThickAsThieves>	rawr change is bad
Apr 05 17:50:50 <benkay>	science is scawwy
Apr 05 17:51:23 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you said in your article "The situation in the market was becoming macroeconomically concerning, in the following sense : major holders were done selling, the vast majority of trading action consisting of trades among newcomers brought in by the recent significant press exposure" it seems noobs were about to cause a bubble and if left "unkempt" the herd mentality could cause catostrophic issues to
Apr 05 17:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	a yeah. i believe so.
Apr 05 17:51:46 <mircea_popescu>	all the "it's going to 500" talk was putting us on the spot
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Apr 05 17:52:03 <mircea_popescu>	correction without collapse => show of strength. no bubble can do that
Apr 05 17:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	no trend-only item survives the past 3 days.
Apr 05 17:52:21 <burnside>	the problem with gmo's is half the work they do is to make 'em pesticide/herbacide resistant.
Apr 05 17:52:26 <pgp>	sometimes you have to go down to go up...
Apr 05 17:52:31 <burnside>	they do that so they can slather them with pesticides and herbicides
Apr 05 17:52:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070508 = 0.9166 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:52:35 <burnside>	yum
Apr 05 17:52:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00070507 = 2.4325 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:52:40 <mircea_popescu>	burnside i wasn't being ingenuous you know
Apr 05 17:52:54 <burnside>	heh
Apr 05 17:53:04 <burnside>	sometimes I process things a lil slow
Apr 05 17:53:15 <ThickAsThieves>	like my withdrawals?
Apr 05 17:53:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;)
Apr 05 17:53:18 <burnside>	my cpu is a 286
Apr 05 17:53:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol zing
Apr 05 17:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	at least he processes them dood.
Apr 05 17:53:37 <burnside>	you always plug 'em in in the middle of the night!
Apr 05 17:54:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm sorting out
Apr 05 17:54:07 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: yes which is why as youve stated the presence of big players (as yourself) keeps the economy from having a complete collapse. i pose a scenario where the noobs become educated. what occurs when the economy is composed of more competency?
Apr 05 17:54:09 <ThickAsThieves>	just gotta keep my btc more spread around
Apr 05 17:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	the more competence the more we onw.
Apr 05 17:54:28 <mircea_popescu>	own*
Apr 05 17:54:36 <burnside>	yeah, I'd be worried about anyplace you have a lot of btc that doesn't have a manual withdrawal process honestly.
Apr 05 17:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	this is true.
Apr 05 17:55:14 <ThickAsThieves>	what about manual big selloff od stocks then?
Apr 05 17:55:47 <benkay>	do y'all see any use in the btc economy for entities that hold slices of private keys for users?
Apr 05 17:56:01 <benkay>	aka distributed wallet backup?
Apr 05 17:56:01 <burnside>	not sure what'cha mean.  (286 remember.)
Apr 05 17:56:23 <mircea_popescu>	benkay the service is better offered by the guy's gf.
Apr 05 17:56:33 <mircea_popescu>	suppose this russian guy has a wife which wife has a sister.
Apr 05 17:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	he always travels with his wife and her sister.
Apr 05 17:56:45 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes tanja is the wife and nadja is the sister
Apr 05 17:56:46 <ThickAsThieves>	kinky
Apr 05 17:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes vice-versa.
Apr 05 17:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	NOW.
Apr 05 17:56:52 <pgp>	benkay: yes
Apr 05 17:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	why'd the russian guy use you to hold half his keys ?
Apr 05 17:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27000002 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27000001 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	why not give half to nadja and half to tanja ?
Apr 05 17:57:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-]
Apr 05 17:57:35 <pgp>	multi-sig has many interesting applications as well
Apr 05 17:57:39 <benkay>	because nadja and tanja have a tendency to bitch out and cannot be depended on for professional service, other than the oral kind.
Apr 05 17:57:45 <mircea_popescu>	maybe
Apr 05 17:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	your service is publicly known tho.
Apr 05 17:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	the girls are private to him only.
Apr 05 17:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	so there's pros and cons.
Apr 05 17:58:18 <benkay>	secret sharing allows one to reconstruct without all shared slices, though
Apr 05 17:58:34 <benkay>	allowing one to leave slices with trusted relatives in addition to untrusted banks around the world
Apr 05 17:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	im just saying, if you're goijng to shard your key,
Apr 05 17:58:46 <mircea_popescu>	why use a publicly known and thus attackable holder of shards.
Apr 05 17:58:54 <mircea_popescu>	ah, so as a part thing.
Apr 05 17:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Apr 05 17:58:59 <benkay>	why not use 10 publicly known holders and 10 private?
Apr 05 17:59:09 <benkay>	i'm looking at en-robust-ifying the thing
Apr 05 17:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	well... why use a holder that's known for holding ?
Apr 05 17:59:20 <mircea_popescu>	why not put a piece of paper in a bank locked chest say
Apr 05 17:59:32 <benkay>	bank is over there
Apr 05 17:59:36 <benkay>	i am all over world
Apr 05 17:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	even so.
Apr 05 17:59:42 <benkay>	sometimes on iss
Apr 05 17:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that we know you hold shards adds a risk to you as a shard holder.
Apr 05 18:00:27 <benkay>	sure, but shard holder ameliorates that risk by charging a fee for a useful service. some fraction of which fee should go to ops to blah blah blah
Apr 05 18:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	now, this may not be a show stopper, i readily grant
Apr 05 18:00:31 <pgp>	watch - tradtional accounting and auditing firms are going to get involved in the bitcoin security game - and insuring deposits while they're at it...
Apr 05 18:00:42 <mircea_popescu>	pgp i wouldn't mind working with one.
Apr 05 18:01:00 <benkay>	the ecosystem needs auditors and accountants.
Apr 05 18:01:05 <benkay>	witness ALL THE THINGS.
Apr 05 18:01:19 <benkay>	smickles should really get on that.
Apr 05 18:01:19 <pgp>	already making inroads...
Apr 05 18:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25200001 BTC [-]
Apr 05 18:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	i think smickles is busy making more smickles.
Apr 05 18:04:27 <benkay>	in addition to keysharding, i want to see merchant receipt/contract tracking as well
Apr 05 18:04:38 <pgp>	a practice of requiring 2/3 key to unlock an address for owner, auditor, lawyer (in case owner dies) seems like a good start
Apr 05 18:05:11 <benkay>	otc, but for merchants, and prettier.
Apr 05 18:05:39 <pgp>	you can put whatever text you want into a txn...
Apr 05 18:05:50 <benkay>	why put it in the blockchain
Apr 05 18:05:55 <benkay>	when you can use the underlying crypto?
Apr 05 18:05:58 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm getting fed up with conf times
Apr 05 18:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25200001 BTC [-]
Apr 05 18:06:06 <ThickAsThieves>	wtf are all these asics for
Apr 05 18:06:15 <benkay>	what asics
Apr 05 18:06:17 <pgp>	.25?!?
Apr 05 18:06:18 <benkay>	;)
Apr 05 18:06:50 <pgp>	benkay: sure
Apr 05 18:07:43 <benkay>	the thing would be relatively simple to implement
Apr 05 18:07:50 <benkay>	big text box for receipts/contracts
Apr 05 18:07:54 <benkay>	track all signing entities
Apr 05 18:08:09 <benkay>	kinda buy into claim resolution, which is not a scalable thing
Apr 05 18:09:19 <pgp>	interesting...
Apr 05 18:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves the asics have little to do with tx processing. they just hash.
Apr 05 18:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	we have a problem with nodes is what it is.
Apr 05 18:10:27 <ThickAsThieves>	how do we fix it
Apr 05 18:10:31 <ThickAsThieves>	so annoyed
Apr 05 18:10:43 <jborkl>	I got my stratum servers running today
Apr 05 18:10:48 <ThickAsThieves>	is running a node hard/costly?
Apr 05 18:10:54 <jborkl>	no
Apr 05 18:11:19 <ThickAsThieves>	can i node be used to expedite ones own transactions?
Apr 05 18:11:22 <ThickAsThieves>	a node*
Apr 05 18:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	"a well-known Silicon Valley socialite and entrepreneur"
Apr 05 18:11:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i cant wait hours day trading
Apr 05 18:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	ok, what the fuck is that ?
Apr 05 18:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes.
Apr 05 18:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	run a node, have it well connected, you'll be instamempooled.
Apr 05 18:11:56 <ThickAsThieves>	k where can learn to do this plz
Apr 05 18:12:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.9 = 19 BTC [-]
Apr 05 18:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	um.
Apr 05 18:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	do you have bitcoin-qt ?
Apr 05 18:12:43 <ThickAsThieves>	yessor
Apr 05 18:12:52 <ThickAsThieves>	yessir
Apr 05 18:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25100001 BTC [-]
Apr 05 18:13:14 <kakobrekla>	run it :)
Apr 05 18:13:18 <ThickAsThieves>	thats it?
Apr 05 18:13:20 <benkay>	does multibit function as a node?
Apr 05 18:13:22 <kakobrekla>	mhm
Apr 05 18:13:28 <ThickAsThieves>	ok
Apr 05 18:13:35 <kakobrekla>	dunno benkay
Apr 05 18:13:42 <ThickAsThieves>	so how do i get my tx from outside services to go faster
Apr 05 18:13:51 <ThickAsThieves>	like from Weexchange
Apr 05 18:13:58 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Apr 05 18:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25200001 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:14:11 <benkay>	ha you can't do that thickasthieves
Apr 05 18:14:16 <benkay>	you have to be broadcasting your own txns
Apr 05 18:14:21 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes unless you're on a shitty connection or something
Apr 05 18:14:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i figured, but needed to ask
Apr 05 18:14:23 <benkay>	unless you can get them to send the tx to you
Apr 05 18:14:38 <kakobrekla>	broadcasting is the smaller part of the transactio
Apr 05 18:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	nah this doesn't work on the otghers. wors on your own
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Apr 05 18:14:45 <kakobrekla>	but its dying the fastest
Apr 05 18:14:59 <kakobrekla>	so there will be like 5 nodes
Apr 05 18:15:00 <ThickAsThieves>	so what can ukto do to expedite his outgoing tx?
Apr 05 18:15:09 <kakobrekla>	gox, guild, deepbit and another 2
Apr 05 18:15:18 <kakobrekla>	soon, at this rate.
Apr 05 18:15:49 <ThickAsThieves>	i stopped running qt cuz it sucks
Apr 05 18:15:57 <ThickAsThieves>	didnt know i was he;ping the network with it on
Apr 05 18:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 05 18:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	it does suck donkey balls.
Apr 05 18:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	but with people turning it off we;'re already under the red.
Apr 05 18:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	pretty soon network will crack up completely.
Apr 05 18:16:42 <ThickAsThieves>	fucking devs
Apr 05 18:16:54 <jborkl>	I am setting up 2 more nodes
Apr 05 18:17:08 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll put nodes on all my mining rigs too
Apr 05 18:17:13 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl if you have the option, set them up in like mongolia and shit
Apr 05 18:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	what i mean is, sorta-distant from the main spots
Apr 05 18:17:48 <jborkl>	I have 15 at least commercial internet connections across many different ip ranges
Apr 05 18:18:02 <Ukto>	ThickAsThieves: also, weex broadcasts txns to over 500 nodes :)
Apr 05 18:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	seems atm 90%+ of nodes are on the euro fiberring, on the sf-la line and on the ny-boston line
Apr 05 18:18:14 <Ukto>	including the major pools
Apr 05 18:18:26 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto then what's the spiel, no fees ?
Apr 05 18:18:35 <jborkl>	where I am - there are not any for 200 300 miles
Apr 05 18:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	great.
Apr 05 18:18:54 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: the issue is that none of the pools currently prioritize by tx fee rate
Apr 05 18:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25200001 = 0.504 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:19:10 <Ukto>	they just have a hard limit on how many txn's can be included per block
Apr 05 18:19:23 <Ukto>	so when things like sdice are being super popular etc
Apr 05 18:19:31 <Ukto>	it creates a backlog of txn processing
Apr 05 18:19:31 <mircea_popescu>	sure they do
Apr 05 18:19:35 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 05 18:19:37 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.90000000 / 1.9085 / 1.93000000 (16 shares, 30.53600000 BTC), 7D: 1.87000000 / 1.97486053 / 2.08000000 (114 shares, 225.13409996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.81479725 / 2.08000000 (730 shares, 1324.80199240 BTC)
Apr 05 18:19:42 <ThickAsThieves>	why wouldnt a pool prioritize by tx fees?
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Apr 05 18:19:53 <Ukto>	i know 4 major pools that are first come first serve
Apr 05 18:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 36 @ 0.25200001 = 9.072 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	well then you know 4 idiots.
Apr 05 18:20:07 <Ukto>	yes
Apr 05 18:20:10 <Ukto>	I never said it was smart
Apr 05 18:20:15 <Ukto>	or with the original bitcoin intentions
Apr 05 18:20:22 <Ukto>	Luke-Jr even completely blocks sdice txns (last i checked)
Apr 05 18:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	socialists everywhere
Apr 05 18:20:31 <mircea_popescu>	ya but we're talking actual pools here.
Apr 05 18:20:35 <Ukto>	leaving a larger backlog for those to be processed
Apr 05 18:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	that's not how it works lol.
Apr 05 18:20:51 <Ukto>	but while he blocks sdice, it allows other txns to get processed at least
Apr 05 18:20:56 <Ukto>	oh? :)
Apr 05 18:21:00 <Ukto>	enlighten please
Apr 05 18:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.43999999 = 7.04 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:21:04 <mircea_popescu>	wlel think. we havr 10k in the backlog.
Apr 05 18:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	luke does like 1 block a day
Apr 05 18:21:17 <mircea_popescu>	whether he puts in 500 txs including sdice or excluding s dice
Apr 05 18:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	it makes no diff, there's always 500 non sdice txns in the pool
Apr 05 18:21:32 <Ukto>	sure
Apr 05 18:21:36 <Ukto>	i didnt say he was helping or hurting
Apr 05 18:21:42 <mircea_popescu>	right. hence no difference
Apr 05 18:21:45 <ThickAsThieves>	sure you did
Apr 05 18:21:46 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 05 18:21:52 <Ukto>	i think him doing it helps non sdice txns get through
Apr 05 18:21:55 <Ukto>	(when he finds a block)
Apr 05 18:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
Apr 05 18:22:02 <Ukto>	but causes the delay later for the next pool
Apr 05 18:22:10 <Ukto>	just pushes it off
Apr 05 18:22:19 <ThickAsThieves>	this boggles my mind
Apr 05 18:22:28 <ThickAsThieves>	now i see why mp rants so much
Apr 05 18:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	you know people say that a lot ?
Apr 05 18:22:44 <mircea_popescu>	*after* doing some reading etc.
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Apr 05 18:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2799999 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:23:04 <Ukto>	besides
Apr 05 18:23:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:23:09 <Ukto>	sdice pays higher than default txs
Apr 05 18:23:14 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoin is way less cool if its slower than a credit card
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Apr 05 18:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	the fact is tho, i set mpex to pay 0.001. since then i have measured, and i had next-block inclusion for all payments
Apr 05 18:23:41 <Ukto>	so for the pools that prioritize based on tx fee, unless you specifically tell your client ot pay a higher tx fee than sdice (whatever it might adjust to) you will not get ahead of them
Apr 05 18:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	this has been going on for months now.
Apr 05 18:23:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i am willing to pay
Apr 05 18:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	as far as i can tell, fee + well connected node -> next block guaranteed.
Apr 05 18:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.179 = 2.358 BTC [-]
Apr 05 18:24:04 <Ukto>	ThickAsThieves: bitcoin has always been slower than credit card
Apr 05 18:24:05 <thestringpuller>	ThickAsThieves: what boggles your mind
Apr 05 18:24:06 <Ukto>	due to the confirms
Apr 05 18:24:27 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: based on what you said, pools would be idiots to not include sorted by fee.
Apr 05 18:24:33 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 05 18:24:34 <Ukto>	recent sdice txn http://blockchain.info/tx/9463b605150c30faa7b7be495a871ff9d479c7a0281785bdb7cc80a91ddeff93
Apr 05 18:24:38 <ThickAsThieves>	the shit hanging off of every facet of the dev and tx side of btc boggles my mind
Apr 05 18:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	well, it's just my experience, but it's been pretty consistent.
Apr 05 18:24:44 <Ukto>	0.0012 btc is not the default txn fee
Apr 05 18:24:46 <Ukto>	in clients
Apr 05 18:24:52 <Ukto>	you have to make sure to pay higher
Apr 05 18:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe i am loved by pools and they prioritise me otherwise ? (seems improbable)
Apr 05 18:25:09 <Ukto>	i am basing it off of what you said atm :)
Apr 05 18:25:15 <Ukto>	it also depends on time of day
Apr 05 18:25:23 <Ukto>	and how many txns are being added to the network
Apr 05 18:25:32 <Ukto>	sometimes its fine, othertimse a giant backlog is created
Apr 05 18:25:51 <mircea_popescu>	as far as i can see the backlog has been 5 to 10k txns for the past... 2 months ?
Apr 05 18:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	5 ?
Apr 05 18:25:56 <ThickAsThieves>	first , the client sux, this causes people to not run nodes, then pools dont prioritize by what pays most, then even for those that do, we have services dealing in lots of btc that dont include fees at all
Apr 05 18:25:56 <thestringpuller>	;;unconfirmed
Apr 05 18:25:57 <gribble>	Error: "unconfirmed" is not a valid command.
Apr 05 18:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	granted, most of those being nofee
Apr 05 18:26:15 <thestringpuller>	what is the command to see current unconfirmed tx
Apr 05 18:26:20 <Ukto>	so if your saying lower priced tx fees for your transfers are going through before highier pricesed sdice txns, then your thought that pools sort by tx fee is out the window, right?
Apr 05 18:26:27 <Ukto>	or are you purposefully setting higher tx fees?
Apr 05 18:26:39 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto i am setting .1, and that s.dice seems to have made it in fast no ?
Apr 05 18:26:40 <Ukto>	ThickAsThieves: http://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
Apr 05 18:26:47 <Ukto>	708 atm
Apr 05 18:26:52 <Ukto>	711
Apr 05 18:27:01 <jborkl>	.81 downloads so fast
Apr 05 18:27:01 <Ukto>	and counting up
Apr 05 18:27:04 <Ukto>	mostly with sdice
Apr 05 18:27:12 <ThickAsThieves>	most people work of 6 confs though
Apr 05 18:27:18 <jborkl>	already one node halfway- 10 minutes
Apr 05 18:27:22 <ThickAsThieves>	so unconfirmed is just part of the picture
Apr 05 18:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	Status: Disconnected
Apr 05 18:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol at blockchain
Apr 05 18:27:48 <Ukto>	when your limiting txns to say 500 when generating a block
Apr 05 18:27:52 <Ukto>	and esp if you are sorting by fee
Apr 05 18:28:06 <Ukto>	unless you pay a highre fee than sdice's already higher than default fee
Apr 05 18:28:08 <Ukto>	you wont be included
Apr 05 18:28:12 <Ukto>	for at least another 1~2 blocks
Apr 05 18:28:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i will pay that
Apr 05 18:28:19 <ThickAsThieves>	easy
Apr 05 18:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	maybe it's my coinbases being real old ?
Apr 05 18:28:35 <jborkl>	it is only 1 line in the .conf file to change the fee structure
Apr 05 18:28:39 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: no idea. blockchain.info is up to date
Apr 05 18:28:55 <ThickAsThieves>	if i'm trying to send 20btc quickly, in order to profit 10%, i dont care about paying even a .1btc fee
Apr 05 18:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.44 = 4.4 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:29:10 <Ukto>	jborkl: yes, but as as service, it's a huge pain to constantly change that one line and restart
Apr 05 18:29:17 <Ukto>	besides
Apr 05 18:29:20 <Ukto>	the issue isnt the fee itself
Apr 05 18:29:30 <ThickAsThieves>	but it is one part
Apr 05 18:29:32 <Ukto>	as I stated, very few high block pools sort by tx fee
Apr 05 18:29:35 <jborkl>	I keep mine very low, just because
Apr 05 18:29:39 <ThickAsThieves>	may as well solve one part at a time
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Apr 05 18:29:49 <Ukto>	during slow times, i have tested sending tx with a 0.1btc fee
Apr 05 18:29:52 <Ukto>	and it still took 3 hours
Apr 05 18:29:59 <Ukto>	same as the 0 fee tx
Apr 05 18:30:01 <mircea_popescu>	this is so weird.
Apr 05 18:30:07 <mircea_popescu>	literally never happened to me this.
Apr 05 18:30:08 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 05 18:30:25 <Ukto>	the issue is that bitcoin needs to be able handle larger amounts of txns
Apr 05 18:30:29 <Ukto>	if ti continues to grow
Apr 05 18:30:38 <Ukto>	and this is not corrected, then bitcoin will die.
Apr 05 18:30:42 <Ukto>	this was teh cause of the recent fork
Apr 05 18:30:51 <Ukto>	pools were told to increase the size of txn announcements
Apr 05 18:30:58 <Ukto>	so what did some do? set ungodly highly max's
Apr 05 18:31:06 <mircea_popescu>	there's no such thinfg as ungodly.
Apr 05 18:31:06 <Ukto>	this conflicted with with a limitation in 0.8
Apr 05 18:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	1mb is 1mb.
Apr 05 18:31:09 <Ukto>	which caused a fork
Apr 05 18:31:11 <ThickAsThieves>	so what can the common user do to help
Apr 05 18:31:16 <jborkl>	hmm, I wonder if we addnode eachother with a fee structure we like - we will broadcast and get included faster- therefore prioritizing out transactions
Apr 05 18:31:24 <jborkl>	our
Apr 05 18:31:26 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves post in mpoe's devs are idiots thread lol
Apr 05 18:31:34 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: all pools did not set 1mb max txn lists
Apr 05 18:31:39 <Ukto>	thats what caused the fork
Apr 05 18:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 05 18:31:43 <Ukto>	along with a the max set to 0.8
Apr 05 18:32:04 <Ukto>	the point was to increase the tx load. not limit them
Apr 05 18:32:12 <Ukto>	thats why there is the big update deadline
Apr 05 18:32:48 <thestringpuller>	so btc tx wont be free always
Apr 05 18:33:00 <Ukto>	btw, look at the blockchain unconfirmed list
Apr 05 18:33:05 <Ukto>	you will see the number dropped from 800+
Apr 05 18:33:05 <thestringpuller>	at some point you WILL have to pay miner fees to get confirmed?
Apr 05 18:33:07 <Ukto>	back to 500~600
Apr 05 18:33:10 <Ukto>	as a block just went out
Apr 05 18:33:14 <Ukto>	only taking abotu 200~300 txns with it
Apr 05 18:33:27 <ThickAsThieves>	its cuz i opened qt ;)
Apr 05 18:33:32 <Ukto>	hehe
Apr 05 18:33:35 <Ukto>	and if you look at that last block
Apr 05 18:33:39 <Ukto>	youw ill see they are mostly in order
Apr 05 18:33:40 <Ukto>	time wise
Apr 05 18:33:43 <Ukto>	not higher paid fees
Apr 05 18:33:48 <Ukto>	from recent txns
Apr 05 18:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla what do yo usay to an idea of giving less weight to small bets on bitbet ?
Apr 05 18:34:20 <ThickAsThieves>	cant they distribute the work better
Apr 05 18:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	like, under 0.0001 ? you only get 90% of the weight.
Apr 05 18:34:24 <ThickAsThieves>	like force you to process a tx in order to send one
Apr 05 18:34:32 <Ukto>	ThickAsThieves: thats another discussion for another day. :)
Apr 05 18:34:35 <Ukto>	back to coding for me :)
Apr 05 18:34:40 <Ukto>	but yes, it pisses me off too.
Apr 05 18:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	Ukto that;'s a good point as to the order, but
Apr 05 18:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't that reflect moreover how the miner sorted them ?
Apr 05 18:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	(not necessarily how they selected them)
Apr 05 18:35:14 <Ukto>	how the pool sorted them
Apr 05 18:35:14 <ThickAsThieves>	didnt mean to rage at you directly, but if including fees helps at all, i'd appreciate it
Apr 05 18:35:15 <Ukto>	not the miner
Apr 05 18:35:23 <mircea_popescu>	yes is what i meant
Apr 05 18:35:31 <Ukto>	yes, which goes back to my point
Apr 05 18:35:35 <Ukto>	that most of the pools are not sorting by txfee
Apr 05 18:35:39 <jborkl>	you can watch your bitcoind reject tranactions
Apr 05 18:35:39 <Ukto>	but by age
Apr 05 18:35:43 <mircea_popescu>	but listen, just because they sorted it thart way in the getwork or w/e
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Apr 05 18:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't mean that it actually reflects the selection process
Apr 05 18:35:58 <Ukto>	well
Apr 05 18:36:06 <Ukto>	i was just looking at a txn witha higher fee
Apr 05 18:36:07 <jborkl>	no, t takes them as tit receives them and stomps them
Apr 05 18:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	if i pick girls by their brasize i will still seat them at the table by height
Apr 05 18:36:09 <Ukto>	that was en queue
Apr 05 18:36:12 <Ukto>	and was not included in the block
Apr 05 18:36:15 <jborkl>	as it
Apr 05 18:36:15 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu you want even more cofulzed ppl ? :)
Apr 05 18:36:20 <Ukto>	so obviously, it wasnt sorted by higher txn fee
Apr 05 18:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla all this dust ;/
Apr 05 18:36:21 <jurov>	Ukto, iirc it's not completely FCFS
Apr 05 18:36:25 <Ukto>	when deciding
Apr 05 18:36:31 <Ukto>	jurov: depends on teh pool
Apr 05 18:36:31 <Ukto>	100%
Apr 05 18:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	do you know the sort of shit that happens when i have to pay out 500 BTC ?
Apr 05 18:36:35 <Ukto>	each do it their diff ways
Apr 05 18:36:39 <jurov>	miners have by default some space reserved to no-fee txs
Apr 05 18:36:48 <Ukto>	mircea_popescu: keep in mind, I host and help with ozcoin :)
Apr 05 18:36:54 <kakobrekla>	ya well ppl will still bet dust even with 90%
Apr 05 18:36:55 <Ukto>	and i work with alot of other pool operators due to hashpower
Apr 05 18:36:56 <mircea_popescu>	i am aware yeh
Apr 05 18:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you think ?
Apr 05 18:37:12 *	Ukto pokes Luke-Jr do you sort by txfee after removing sdice txns?
Apr 05 18:37:20 <kakobrekla>	i think half wouldnt even notice
Apr 05 18:37:29 <mircea_popescu>	gah
Apr 05 18:37:31 <jurov>	and txfee can be changed on the fly, no need to restart
Apr 05 18:37:49 <jurov>	you didn't knew about bitcoind settxfee?
Apr 05 18:37:49 <Ukto>	jurov: yes, but not ona  per-send unless you do a custom raw tx
Apr 05 18:38:15 <Ukto>	jurov: sending rpc calls to bitcoind to constantly try to change the txn fee per client send leaves bad things to possibly happen
Apr 05 18:38:22 <Ukto>	its not like an sql transaction
Apr 05 18:38:33 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu i could do it so there is no bet accepted if its not funded by at least N (can come in several txes or w/e)
Apr 05 18:38:44 <Ukto>	i dont know how many user syou have constatnly withdrawing, but I tend to get a few about the same time every few days
Apr 05 18:38:52 <Ukto>	usually because something is happening in the world
Apr 05 18:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.9 = 3.8 BTC [-]
Apr 05 18:39:32 <Ukto>	but the method for handling this, and letting users throw whatever amoutn they want at a tx fee is coming with the new weex relesae
Apr 05 18:39:52 <Ukto>	then they can all donate to minors, just to find out it wont help
Apr 05 18:39:55 <Ukto>	;)
Apr 05 18:40:02 <Ukto>	"minors" yes, bad joke :)
Apr 05 18:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.44 = 3.96 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:40:20 <benkay>	:q
Apr 05 18:40:32 <benkay>	this is not the vim window...
Apr 05 18:40:39 <mod6>	are you sure?
Apr 05 18:40:52 <Ukto>	try :q!
Apr 05 18:40:53 <benkay>	:s,mod6,wangs,g
Apr 05 18:40:58 <benkay>	:%s,mod6,wangs,g
Apr 05 18:41:01 <benkay>	yup
Apr 05 18:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.28099999 = 0.843 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:41:21 <mod6>	ha
Apr 05 18:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.281 = 4.215 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:42:12 <jurov>	well, i do have problems with coinbr deposits sitting there for hours
Apr 05 18:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla meh.
Apr 05 18:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	we think of this more.
Apr 05 18:42:28 <jurov>	withdrawals waiting are rare
Apr 05 18:42:48 <jurov>	cuz i have node running all the time with 90+ connections
Apr 05 18:43:41 <ThickAsThieves>	btw the withdrawal that triggered me ranting, ended up clearing in 15min...
Apr 05 18:43:48 <jurov>	plus, adding a fee did help a bit
Apr 05 18:43:52 <ThickAsThieves>	from weex, 0tx fee
Apr 05 18:44:09 <ThickAsThieves>	the wait was all for the first conf
Apr 05 18:44:12 <ThickAsThieves>	then it zoomed
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Apr 05 18:46:30 <pgp>	it all has to do with nodes
Apr 05 18:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.281 = 1.405 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:47:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.00301 = 0.0753 BTC [-]
Apr 05 18:47:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Apr 05 18:47:55 <pgp>	network density
Apr 05 18:48:49 <pgp>	if you're "well connected" so to speak, you're txn will get picked up quickly, irrespective of fee
Apr 05 18:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.281 BTC [+]
Apr 05 18:49:21 <pgp>	nice to see a plus-tick on SDICE
Apr 05 18:50:42 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 150
Apr 05 18:50:45 <gribble>	There are currently 11628.06 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 1718711.96735 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds
Apr 05 18:51:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 05 18:51:09 <gribble>	There are currently 31145458 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11787480.3755 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.0973 seconds
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Apr 05 18:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.28199999 = 0.564 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 18:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.43999999 = 2.64 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 19:02:05 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 05 19:02:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.90000000 / 1.90755556 / 1.93000000 (18 shares, 34.33600000 BTC), 7D: 1.87000000 / 1.97356983 / 2.08000000 (116 shares, 228.93409996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.81581095 / 2.08000000 (730 shares, 1325.54199220 BTC)
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Apr 05 19:42:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 19:49:55 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43999999 = 0.88 BTC [-]
Apr 05 19:58:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.282 = 0.564 BTC [+]
Apr 05 20:00:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.282 = 1.41 BTC [+]
Apr 05 20:00:12 <benkay>	if you're well connected, you generally don't have to suffer the same problems that normo's do anyways, pgp ;)
Apr 05 20:00:22 <pgp>	word
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Apr 05 20:00:33 <joeykrim>	mircea_popescu, sorry, im around now
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Apr 05 20:25:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 05 20:25:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 05 20:25:15 <ThickAsThieves>	.bait
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Apr 05 20:36:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0026 BTC [+]
Apr 05 20:36:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 510 @ 0.0025 = 1.275 BTC [-]
Apr 05 20:36:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 496 @ 0.002011 = 0.9975 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 20:39:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.003355 = 0.0268 BTC [+]
Apr 05 20:39:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [-]
Apr 05 20:44:41 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.425 = 8.075 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 20:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00070053 = 7.1804 BTC [-]
Apr 05 20:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6035 @ 0.00070873 = 4.2772 BTC [+]
Apr 05 20:53:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3915 @ 0.00071 = 2.7797 BTC [+]
Apr 05 21:03:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.282 = 1.692 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 21:04:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1029 BTC [+]
Apr 05 21:05:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1029 BTC [+]
Apr 05 21:05:58 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.262 = 0.786 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:06:00 <luke-jr_>	Ukto: AFAIK, every pool prioitizes by fee/KB
Apr 05 21:06:12 <Diablo-D3>	http://i.imgur.com/lPIoVfs.png
Apr 05 21:06:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.282 = 1.128 BTC [+]
Apr 05 21:06:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00286307 = 8.3029 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:06:20 <kakobrekla>	is that obama behind the b
Apr 05 21:06:44 <Diablo-D3>	probably
Apr 05 21:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	obama is behind everything
Apr 05 21:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	everything that is
Apr 05 21:06:55 <mircea_popescu>	and everthing that will be
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Apr 05 21:10:04 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 05 21:10:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.90000000 / 1.90755556 / 1.93000000 (18 shares, 34.33600000 BTC), 7D: 1.87000000 / 1.97494825 / 2.08000000 (114 shares, 225.14409996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.82103054 / 2.08000000 (720 shares, 1311.14199220 BTC)
Apr 05 21:12:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 05 21:12:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00286307 / 0.00321072 / 0.00333333 (21008 shares, 67.45 BTC), 7D: 0.00286307 / 0.00324298 / 0.00439992 (541587 shares, 1,756.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00286307 / 0.00372327 / 0.006 (1707706 shares, 6,358.26 BTC)
Apr 05 21:13:20 <Uglux>	Plan Ƀ, sounds good
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Apr 05 21:39:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:39:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 14 @ 0.00303497 = 0.0425 BTC [+]
Apr 05 21:39:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.778 = 2.334 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Apr 05 21:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	a, yes!
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Apr 05 21:40:49 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Apr 05 21:40:50 <kakobrekla>	there ya go
Apr 05 21:40:50 <kakobrekla>	it filled
Apr 05 21:40:50 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render/?title=Mtgox+Lag+-+1+day&vtitle=Seconds&from=-1day&width=500&height=250&until=now&areaMode=none&lineMode=connected&target=alias%28bitcoin.mtgox.lag%2C%22Mtgox_lag%22%29
Apr 05 21:40:53 <Diablo-D3>	OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD, THE WONDERFUL WIZARD OF CHACHUNG
Apr 05 21:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://jezus.si:81/render/?title=Mtgox+Lag+-+1+week&vtitle=Seconds&from=-1week&width=500&height=250&until=now&areaMode=none&lineMode=connected&target=alias%28bitcoin.mtgox.lag%2C%22Mtgox_lag%22%29&1365210931374
Apr 05 21:40:57 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
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Apr 05 21:41:11 <thestringpuller>	gribble goes down too much
Apr 05 21:41:24 <copumpkin>	it's a netsplit
Apr 05 21:41:24 <thestringpuller>	This is glorious!
Apr 05 21:41:24 <copumpkin>	it gets confused :)
Apr 05 21:41:24 <Uglux>	nice
Apr 05 21:41:26 <thestringpuller>	;;gribble
Apr 05 21:41:26 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Apr 05 21:41:35 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 05 21:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 93.3570601 / 108.2470225 / 135.80742037 (19613 shares, 8,037.73 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Apr 05 21:44:59 <deadweasel>	awesome grapfs, much appreciated
Apr 05 21:45:08 <deadweasel>	graphs*
Apr 05 21:45:52 <pigeons>	graff my maffs and stuffs
Apr 05 21:46:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2645 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:46:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.264 = 6.6 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:46:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.2636 = 7.908 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:46:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.26301 = 2.1041 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:46:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.2621 = 1.0484 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:46:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.2601 = 2.3409 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:46:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2600002 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:46:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26000001 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:46:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25200001 = 0.504 BTC [-]
Apr 05 21:46:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.251 = 3.765 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 21:46:50 <pigeons>	ill take next month's dividend for 0025
Apr 05 21:47:03 <deadweasel>	2.51. people are shortsighted
Apr 05 21:47:25 <deadweasel>	dammit, one handed typing.
Apr 05 21:47:43 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 05 21:47:49 <deadweasel>	busted wrst, not whackin it you pervs
Apr 05 21:47:59 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 05 21:48:01 <deadweasel>	sitlol
Apr 05 21:48:03 <thestringpuller>	nvm
Apr 05 21:48:07 <deadweasel>	*sit
Apr 05 21:48:22 <deadweasel>	shit!
Apr 05 21:48:48 <kakobrekla>	hm, for march, bbet is over half of sdice per share
Apr 05 21:49:01 <deadweasel>	bbet rocks.
Apr 05 21:50:09 <kakobrekla>	we are over half of march div right now for april if i see this correctly
Apr 05 21:50:14 <kakobrekla>	and its what, 6 days
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Apr 05 21:52:33 <kakobrekla>	o well.
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Apr 05 21:53:33 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3067 BTC [+]
Apr 05 21:54:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3067 BTC [+]
Apr 05 21:54:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 325 @ 0.00303497 = 0.9864 BTC [+]
Apr 05 21:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.30679999 = 0.6136 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 21:56:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3067 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 21:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	scam.
Apr 05 21:57:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.439 = 3.073 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 22:03:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [-]
Apr 05 22:03:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 158 @ 0.0039 = 0.6162 BTC [-]
Apr 05 22:03:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3000 @ 0.00385 = 11.55 BTC [-]
Apr 05 22:03:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 250 @ 0.0038 = 0.95 BTC [-]
Apr 05 22:03:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 204 @ 0.0037 = 0.7548 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 22:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.306788 BTC [+]
Apr 05 22:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.00303497 = 11.5329 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 22:11:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 61 @ 0.00303497 = 0.1851 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 22:14:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.777 BTC [-]
Apr 05 22:15:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [+]
Apr 05 22:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.306788 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 22:17:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [-]
Apr 05 22:18:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.39 = 2.34 BTC [+]
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Apr 05 22:25:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.30688 = 3.0688 BTC [+]
Apr 05 22:26:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 109 @ 0.01 = 1.09 BTC [+]
Apr 05 22:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
Apr 05 22:29:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 0.778 = 17.894 BTC [+]
Apr 05 22:30:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.779 = 3.116 BTC [+]
Apr 05 22:31:22 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 05 22:31:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.00001, Best ask: 141.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.89998, Last trade: 141.00001, 24 hour volume: 68994.82037063, 24 hour low: 131.12000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 139.64835
Apr 05 22:37:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 85 @ 0.0028 = 0.238 BTC [-]
Apr 05 22:37:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 300 @ 0.0026 = 0.78 BTC [-]
Apr 05 22:37:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.0021 = 0.042 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 22:46:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 850 @ 0.002 = 1.7 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 22:57:07 <thestringpuller>	mr. voorhees has arrived
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Apr 05 22:57:30 <thestringpuller>	now he announces some news and the s.dice price adjust accordingly
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Apr 05 22:59:40 <kakobrekla>	alt chains are kinda collapsing
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Apr 05 23:04:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.003354 = 0.0503 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 23:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	a well
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Apr 05 23:12:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 580 @ 0.00191 = 1.1078 BTC [-]
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Apr 05 23:34:01 <bgupta>	THere is a reason they say "the gold standard" and not the "silver" "nickel" "copper" or "tin" standard.
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Apr 05 23:36:31 <mircea_popescu>	you know what a standard is ?
Apr 05 23:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	a nm, i mistook that for a question
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Apr 05 23:39:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00439 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 00:02:40 <dub>	ppcoin is doing pretty well
Apr 06 00:03:02 <dub>	04/06/13 02:14:07 5100.00000000 0.00510000 26.01000000
Apr 06 00:03:12 <dub>	^ my last trade
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Apr 06 00:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	is that in usd ?
Apr 06 00:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.899 = 3.798 BTC [-]
Apr 06 00:04:15 <dub>	btc
Apr 06 00:04:43 <mircea_popescu>	wow.
Apr 06 00:04:45 <dub>	5100 ppc @.005 btc
Apr 06 00:12:59 <toffoo>	I bought my first ones two days ago,
Apr 06 00:13:14 <toffoo>	"always better to be lucky than smart" i say
Apr 06 00:13:18 <dub>	I mined 40k in the first 12 hours
Apr 06 00:13:35 <toffoo>	yup seems like these might be the next thing to gain some traction,
Apr 06 00:13:42 <dub>	cost $10 in power oslt
Apr 06 00:13:48 <toffoo>	BTC-e started trading now like a few hours ago
Apr 06 00:14:12 <dub>	this is why we mine all the chains
Apr 06 00:14:19 <toffoo>	what did you use to mine them?
Apr 06 00:14:38 <dub>	couple gh of gpu
Apr 06 00:15:04 <toffoo>	can cgminer do ppcoin /w gpu?
Apr 06 00:15:31 <PsychoticBoy>	any bitcoin miner can mine ppc
Apr 06 00:15:36 <dub>	yeah its not different to btc
Apr 06 00:15:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 117 @ 0.01 = 1.17 BTC [+]
Apr 06 00:16:01 <toffoo>	cool thnx .. I may give that a try, with my <cough> .. nVidia
Apr 06 00:19:42 <toffoo>	so in theory someone could hook up an Avalon and mine the crap outta these ppcoins
Apr 06 00:19:55 <dub>	yes
Apr 06 00:20:08 <toffoo>	hmm..maybe a bit early to be buying in then
Apr 06 00:20:15 <dub>	though it doesnt work with stratum yet
Apr 06 00:20:18 <PsychoticBoy>	some are, solo mining, but they are
Apr 06 00:20:29 <dub>	yeah would be a bit dumb not to
Apr 06 00:20:32 <dub>	tbh
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Apr 06 00:25:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 1300 @ 0.62136625 = 807.7761 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 00:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 3000 @ 0.62136625 = 1864.0988 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 00:40:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 400 @ 0.62136625 = 248.5465 BTC [-]
Apr 06 00:44:21 <copumpkin>	that's a lot of puts at 200
Apr 06 00:45:05 <jcpham>	woohoo
Apr 06 00:45:15 <jcpham>	i welcome our new overlords
Apr 06 00:46:03 <copumpkin>	someone going short
Apr 06 00:46:10 <copumpkin>	people bitching about not being able to short
Apr 06 00:46:17 <dub>	allex
Apr 06 00:46:28 <dub>	oops
Apr 06 00:46:45 <jcpham>	my IT department told me not to touch the bitcoins
Apr 06 00:47:13 <copumpkin>	why not
Apr 06 00:47:58 <jcpham>	you must not be watching the tv news
Apr 06 00:48:03 <jcpham>	about the bitcoin
Apr 06 00:48:14 <copumpkin>	I don't have a TV
Apr 06 00:48:59 <jcpham>	on the boat?
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Apr 06 00:51:22 <copumpkin>	anywhere
Apr 06 00:51:33 <copumpkin>	well, I lent my TV to a friend several years ago because I never watched it
Apr 06 00:51:40 <copumpkin>	so I technically own one I guess
Apr 06 00:52:10 <jcpham>	sorry i'm commenting on stupid bitcoin press
Apr 06 00:52:32 <jcpham>	some guy said something cnbc the other day about his it department wouldn't go near bitcoin
Apr 06 00:52:36 <jcpham>	"he asked them"
Apr 06 00:53:31 <copumpkin>	why would they need to?
Apr 06 00:53:40 <copumpkin>	I could see compliance departments having a problem with it, in some cases
Apr 06 00:53:45 <copumpkin>	but most companies don't even have that
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Apr 06 01:01:09 <jcpham>	you need to see the videa and see how he says it
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Apr 06 01:01:13 <jcpham>	like a complete moron
Apr 06 01:04:18 <jcpham>	http://youtu.be/y1POVoi9NPk?t=4m48s
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Apr 06 01:04:26 <jcpham>	the money shot so to speak
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Apr 06 01:08:07 <locksley>	mircea_popescu: is the registration fee for mpex.co still 30BTC? ...given the recent surge in BTC/USD prices
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Apr 06 01:17:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.00439 = 0.0176 BTC [+]
Apr 06 01:19:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.0044 = 0.0176 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 01:30:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [-]
Apr 06 01:31:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7686 BTC [-]
Apr 06 01:31:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7685 = 3.074 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 01:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P140T] 5 @ 0.28572235 = 1.4286 BTC [-]
Apr 06 01:41:57 <ChaangNoi>	lol at all the alt coins trading on btc-e for crazy prices...
Apr 06 01:42:04 <ChaangNoi>	ppc and trc, nuts
Apr 06 01:43:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P095T] 10 @ 0.06811293 = 0.6811 BTC
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Apr 06 01:59:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.1722 = 0.861 BTC [-]
Apr 06 01:59:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7789 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 02:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7733 @ 0.000714 = 5.5214 BTC [+]
Apr 06 02:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.29999 = 2.9999 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 02:37:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1001 = 0.2002 BTC [-]
Apr 06 02:51:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003354 = 0.1677 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 02:59:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7686 BTC [-]
Apr 06 02:59:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7685 = 3.8425 BTC [-]
Apr 06 03:04:04 <taub>	is mtgox losing volume already?
Apr 06 03:04:35 <taub>	btce and btc24 having lots of trades in the feed compared to mtgox
Apr 06 03:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28210001 BTC [-]
Apr 06 03:28:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28200001 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 03:30:22 <Bowjob>	mp u here?
Apr 06 03:31:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.095 = 1.9 BTC [-]
Apr 06 03:31:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.1001 = 0.6006 BTC [+]
Apr 06 03:31:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 03:48:03 <Bowjob>	that was some nice viet food
Apr 06 03:48:06 <Bowjob>	nomnom
Apr 06 03:48:15 <Bowjob>	damn i love vancouver. diverse food
Apr 06 03:56:10 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 06 03:56:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.00000, Best ask: 142.24998, Bid-ask spread: 0.24998, Last trade: 142.50000, 24 hour volume: 61098.98505712, 24 hour low: 135.12000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 140.58777
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Apr 06 04:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.304 BTC [+]
Apr 06 04:25:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.305 = 0.915 BTC [+]
Apr 06 04:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.305 BTC [+]
Apr 06 04:27:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3055 = 0.9165 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 04:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3055 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 04:36:16 <mircea_popescu>	guy comes on irc, asks question, leaves in 4 minutes.
Apr 06 04:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	noobs today...
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Apr 06 04:47:51 <toffoo>	mircea_popescu have you or your minions investigated at all "Bitcoin Rain" ?
Apr 06 04:48:45 <toffoo>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=168616.0
Apr 06 04:50:50 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo superficially.
Apr 06 04:50:57 <toffoo>	seems like this Leandro guy was like the combined zhoutong + pirateat40 of Brazil,
Apr 06 04:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 06 04:51:10 <toffoo>	and apparently getting away with it,
Apr 06 04:51:13 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 06 04:51:33 <toffoo>	because the Brazilians are like begging for him back
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Apr 06 04:52:32 <toffoo>	the situation probably hasn't gotten the attention it deserves because of the portuguese factor,
Apr 06 04:53:25 <toffoo>	but smells like he should earn a prominent position on your scam list sometime soon
Apr 06 04:55:03 <mircea_popescu>	toffoo well, as far as i'm concerned :
Apr 06 04:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	the brazillians haven't bothered to join #bitcoin-assets.
Apr 06 04:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	what do i care about them ?
Apr 06 04:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	certainly will make it on the list volume 2, fwtw.
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Apr 06 04:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 06 04:57:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.62001, Best ask: 142.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37999, Last trade: 142.00000, 24 hour volume: 59239.00956523, 24 hour low: 135.12000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 140.65500
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Apr 06 05:03:12 <jurov>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1brszi/bitcoin_is_a_concordia_currency/
Apr 06 05:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	lmao okay.
Apr 06 05:03:57 <jurov>	i'm inclined to call it "discordia currency tho
Apr 06 05:04:01 <mircea_popescu>	the recipe for a reddit post :
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Apr 06 05:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	Title : {A fear} + {An assumption} = {An inconsistent definition}
Apr 06 05:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	Body : {Misreference} {Misinterpretation of fact} {Misquote} {Personal Bias} {Daydreaming} {Cat pic}
Apr 06 05:06:38 <jurov>	oook. this was just an innocent proposal, tho
Apr 06 05:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	im in supercharged hate mode.
Apr 06 05:08:45 <jurov>	oh, what happened?
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Apr 06 05:09:43 <mircea_popescu>	nothing lol. i just get these.
Apr 06 05:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43 = 0.86 BTC [-]
Apr 06 05:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.406 = 0.812 BTC [-]
Apr 06 05:14:37 <jurov>	=)
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Apr 06 05:34:24 <jurov>	Anyone working in the press is a professional and intellectual failure. << yup, this begins well
Apr 06 05:34:48 <jurov>	(latest trilema article)
Apr 06 05:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	:p
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Apr 06 06:05:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15789 BTC [+]
Apr 06 06:07:46 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Apr 06 06:07:49 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 229941 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1898 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9247456.62683 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.51944
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Apr 06 06:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.179 = 2.358 BTC [-]
Apr 06 06:14:24 <prof7bit>	bitbet could need a help page. there is no explanation how it works, what the numbers mean, what the small graph below each bet means, how to calculate my possible win, etc.
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Apr 06 06:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.18 = 2.36 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 06:16:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00329 = 0.0494 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 06:17:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00329 = 0.0099 BTC [-]
Apr 06 06:17:27 <prof7bit>	does anybody here know how it works?
Apr 06 06:17:48 <prof7bit>	or will this remain a secret
Apr 06 06:18:57 <jurov>	prof7bit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145819.0
Apr 06 06:21:06 <prof7bit>	why is the "faq" link white text on white background? No wonder I couldn't find it.
Apr 06 06:21:29 <jurov>	in ff it shows fine on black background
Apr 06 06:21:49 <jurov>	prolly tell kakobrekla to fix
Apr 06 06:21:58 <prof7bit>	i'm using a webkit based browser
Apr 06 06:22:52 <jurov>	ahh ic now. in konqueror+webkit the FAQ gets flushed down, onto white background
Apr 06 06:23:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000656 BTC [+]
Apr 06 06:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	prof7bit it does have a faq neh ?
Apr 06 06:30:17 <mircea_popescu>	oh
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Apr 06 06:40:47 <prof7bit>	this calculation method is very intransparent and convoluted, why not choose a simpler and more intuitive calculation?
Apr 06 06:42:01 <jurov>	what is intransparent and convoluted?
Apr 06 06:42:26 <jurov>	for me it feels right. just have to remind myself to always check the weight
Apr 06 06:42:38 <jurov>	if it's too low, abstain form betting
Apr 06 06:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	prof7bit because this one happens to be fair.
Apr 06 06:44:09 <prof7bit>	how is the weight calculated, why does this factor even exist, why not just calculate the ratio of total winning side / total losing side?
Apr 06 06:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	not all bets have weight.
Apr 06 06:44:42 <mircea_popescu>	but those that do have it to reflect the fact that it's more risk to claim a girl is pregnant in her first week than in her last.
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Apr 06 06:45:46 <jurov>	weight goes down linearly in time
Apr 06 06:46:56 <prof7bit>	what is the maximum weight and when is it consdered "low", why not ue a percenage instead of 8 digit numbers
Apr 06 06:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	Current weight:
Apr 06 06:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	67`186 ( from 100`000 to 1 )
Apr 06 06:48:06 <mircea_popescu>	do you specifically feel the need to ask that question ?!
Apr 06 06:50:40 <dub>	Matthew N. Wright
Apr 06 06:50:40 <dub>	Untrustworthy
Apr 06 06:50:50 <dub>	what the fuck
Apr 06 06:51:11 <Diablo-D3>	failpaste?
Apr 06 06:51:19 <dub>	why no scammer tag?
Apr 06 06:51:30 <Diablo-D3>	he used to have one
Apr 06 06:52:57 <anarchy5>	support levels are becoming huge
Apr 06 06:53:04 <anarchy5>	above 100 its crazy
Apr 06 06:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	what's so crazy about it ?
Apr 06 06:53:37 <dub>	;;bids 0
Apr 06 06:53:39 <gribble>	There are currently 31145510 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12066597.028 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0097 seconds
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Apr 06 06:57:53 <bitesak>	;;bids 100
Apr 06 06:57:56 <gribble>	There are currently 51815.043 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 6262852.41742 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0059 seconds
Apr 06 06:58:56 <bitesak>	there is 500K more in bids than yesterday for ;;bids 0
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Apr 06 07:38:21 <ChaangNoi>	hi all
Apr 06 07:38:31 <deadweasel>	hi ChaangNoi
Apr 06 07:38:32 <ChaangNoi>	;;bids 0
Apr 06 07:38:35 <gribble>	There are currently 31144153 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12025871.6491 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0100 seconds
Apr 06 07:38:56 <deadweasel>	:D  12 mil
Apr 06 07:38:57 <ChaangNoi>	seems shockingly quite in here, wanted to makesure it still worked:)
Apr 06 07:40:15 <ChaangNoi>	12 million bids, thats is nice to see
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Apr 06 08:08:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 169 @ 0.2 = 33.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 08:10:29 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 06 08:10:30 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00286307 / 0.00315869 / 0.00333333 (21469 shares, 67.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00286307 / 0.00324138 / 0.00439992 (545787 shares, 1,769.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00286307 / 0.00365017 / 0.006 (1621037 shares, 5,917.07 BTC)
Apr 06 08:12:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00447 = 0.447 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 08:22:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 06 08:22:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.71054, Best ask: 141.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18946, Last trade: 141.71052, 24 hour volume: 54153.97471258, 24 hour low: 135.12000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 141.09054
Apr 06 08:30:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.17399 BTC [+]
Apr 06 08:30:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.174 = 0.87 BTC [+]
Apr 06 08:37:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00329 = 0.023 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 08:40:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.01301 = 0.1171 BTC [+]
Apr 06 08:40:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.013 BTC [-]
Apr 06 08:40:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
Apr 06 08:41:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003353 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 08:54:27 <kakobrekla>	mornin, whats new
Apr 06 09:05:34 <bowjob>	the rape adria richards contest should be over now
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Apr 06 09:20:56 <bowjob>	ltc dropping like a bitch
Apr 06 09:28:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00244 BTC [+]
Apr 06 09:28:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00245 BTC [+]
Apr 06 09:28:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0025 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 09:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00071399 = 0.9282 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:33:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.000714 = 6.1761 BTC [+]
Apr 06 09:38:26 <jurov>	Still no love for s.dice, what happened?
Apr 06 09:39:35 <jurov>	people who did after-dividend shopping prolly left...
Apr 06 09:40:39 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 06 09:40:40 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 140.67
Apr 06 09:41:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 06 09:41:07 <gribble>	There are currently 31749042 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11902783.3381 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0101 seconds
Apr 06 09:41:19 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 149.94
Apr 06 09:41:21 <gribble>	There are currently 10941.045 bitcoins offered at or under 149.94 USD, worth 1604809.16098 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.5561 seconds
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Apr 06 09:43:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7685 = 4.611 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:44:19 <error4733>	;;asks 198
Apr 06 09:44:22 <gribble>	There are currently 29384.845 bitcoins offered at or under 198.0 USD, worth 4757177.58812 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0027 seconds
Apr 06 09:45:07 <error4733>	;;bids 98
Apr 06 09:45:07 <gribble>	There are currently 51818.679 bitcoins demanded at or over 98.0 USD, worth 6227000.30109 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.8592 seconds
Apr 06 09:45:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00070759 = 2.1228 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.261 = 2.349 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:47:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003353 BTC [+]
Apr 06 09:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2605 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 09:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.2601 = 7.803 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:50:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00301 = 0.0903 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:50:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.003 = 0.075 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:50:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.00292 = 0.0321 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:50:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00291 = 0.0146 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:50:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.0029 = 0.0319 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 09:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.26001 = 5.2002 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2600001 = 0.52 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.25231 = 2.2708 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:56:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 57 @ 0.00274 = 0.1562 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:56:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00273 = 0.0082 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:56:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00271 = 0.0054 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:56:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00268 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:57:06 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice dying
Apr 06 09:57:45 <DeaDTerra>	I am willing to buy S.DICE if anyone wants to well cheap? ;)
Apr 06 09:57:57 <kakobrekla>	just buy bbet
Apr 06 09:58:00 <pigeons>	no one wants dividends?
Apr 06 09:58:38 <ThickAsThieves>	ltc dying too
Apr 06 09:58:49 <pigeons>	shocking
Apr 06 09:58:54 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 06 09:59:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [-]
Apr 06 09:59:17 <kakobrekla>	well nothing is forever so anything that is alive is dying all the time
Apr 06 09:59:26 <kakobrekla>	at least in the process of
Apr 06 09:59:42 <kakobrekla>	now sell ur btc.
Apr 06 09:59:46 <ThickAsThieves>	speak for yourself
Apr 06 09:59:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm only getting stronger
Apr 06 10:00:01 <ThickAsThieves>	mwooo hahahaha
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Apr 06 10:00:13 <kakobrekla>	its not mwo, its nwo you silly
Apr 06 10:00:34 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 06 10:01:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen namworld
Apr 06 10:01:34 <gribble>	namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 14 hours, 6 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <Namworld> lag on the rise... and almost no trading...
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Apr 06 10:05:28 <KRS1>	its just going down, it will come back up
Apr 06 10:05:44 <DeaDTerra>	People do not seem to understand probability and statistics
Apr 06 10:05:59 <DeaDTerra>	S.DICE are having a really bad month in terms of luck but not that bad month in terms of volume
Apr 06 10:06:25 <DeaDTerra>	if the volume would be super bad you might be able to justify selling but selling because S.DICE is unlucky and hence had a bad dividend is just a poor decision
Apr 06 10:06:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7601 BTC [-]
Apr 06 10:09:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll gladly buy at these prices
Apr 06 10:09:25 <ThickAsThieves>	my .0037 offer doesnt look so bad now though DT ;)
Apr 06 10:09:30 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 06 10:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.265 = 7.95 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:10:49 <DeaDTerra>	eh I am happy to keep the shares ;)
Apr 06 10:10:59 <DeaDTerra>	I got a nice dividend and I can just wait until S.DICE has good luck again
Apr 06 10:11:37 <error4733>	they sold because of elasticity of s.dice price vs BTC
Apr 06 10:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.265 = 4.77 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:12:11 <error4733>	btc perf a hugeeee x11 since jan
Apr 06 10:12:40 <DeaDTerra>	Ofc
Apr 06 10:12:48 <DeaDTerra>	but S.DICE is quite resiliant to the BTC price increase
Apr 06 10:12:54 <DeaDTerra>	the volume has not dropped by 11 times
Apr 06 10:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.265 = 5.3 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:13:09 <DeaDTerra>	which suggest that it's still a good investment if you believe in a long term increase in the BTC price
Apr 06 10:13:19 <error4733>	beacause ppl play like its 20$ again
Apr 06 10:13:32 <error4733>	need time to switch to 140$
Apr 06 10:13:50 <ThickAsThieves>	plus sdice, AM, and bitbet are like the only decent Btc assets
Apr 06 10:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.265 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:14:08 <error4733>	+1 for AM
Apr 06 10:14:19 <DeaDTerra>	WTS G.MPOE,G.BBET,BTCQuick, G.ASICMINER-PT, WTB G.SDICE pm me with offers :)
Apr 06 10:14:52 <DeaDTerra>	It's funny how half a year ago people in this channel lauged at me and called me a scammer for helping AM IPO :)
Apr 06 10:14:57 <DeaDTerra>	looks like I got the last laugh
Apr 06 10:15:01 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Apr 06 10:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.265 = 1.325 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:15:38 <error4733>	time will say, i kept some S.dice 4 glory but if every morning i'm happy with btc rally but i'm cry when i look to S.dice it's not good
Apr 06 10:16:24 <jurov>	error4733 in 2 weeks maybe you'll cry you sold it,dunno
Apr 06 10:16:25 <error4733>	i miss the AM boat, shame
Apr 06 10:16:41 <DeaDTerra>	Well, I for one think that S.DICE is a good investment as the volume doesn't follow the BTC price perfectly but it does it well enough to protect okay against a BTC price fall but not good enough to totally crash when the BTC price spikes.
Apr 06 10:16:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00249 BTC [-]
Apr 06 10:16:51 <DeaDTerra>	I had 1000 shares, I sold them for 0.126...
Apr 06 10:16:55 <DeaDTerra>	kind of regret that now
Apr 06 10:17:00 <jurov>	Anyway it's not a good practice to check portfolio every day.
Apr 06 10:17:24 <DeaDTerra>	The only once that profit from active trading (in long term) is your broker/exchange
Apr 06 10:17:33 <kakobrekla>	DeaDTerra they still do, and for dealing with AA, usagi etc too
Apr 06 10:17:46 <error4733>	agree, but big mistake as a news noob i put 80% of my btc in S.dice
Apr 06 10:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.265 = 7.155 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:18:08 <DeaDTerra>	Which still do?
Apr 06 10:18:14 <DeaDTerra>	think I am a scammer?
Apr 06 10:18:15 <kakobrekla>	16:14.50 ( DeaDTerra ) It's funny how half a year ago people in this channel lauged at me and called me a scammer for helping AM IPO :)
Apr 06 10:18:19 <DeaDTerra>	ah yea
Apr 06 10:18:23 <DeaDTerra>	well fuck the haters :)
Apr 06 10:18:51 <DeaDTerra>	If you try to promote things some will turn out bad some will turn out well
Apr 06 10:19:02 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 06 10:19:02 <DeaDTerra>	I am not saying I have a perfect record, but I am not a scammer
Apr 06 10:19:17 <pigeons>	--richard nixon
Apr 06 10:19:21 <DeaDTerra>	you learn from your mistakes :P
Apr 06 10:19:34 <kakobrekla>	i do, dunno if you did
Apr 06 10:19:38 <kakobrekla>	;)
Apr 06 10:19:58 <DeaDTerra>	I did :)
Apr 06 10:20:17 <DeaDTerra>	I have learnt that trusting people in the bitcoin forum is naive and doesn't work out
Apr 06 10:20:21 <jurov>	So, i succeeded to register at havelock and snatch some sdice...but i don't see function to transfer *to* mpex...
Apr 06 10:20:29 <jurov>	It's suspicious.
Apr 06 10:20:35 <kakobrekla>	i think thats 10btc a tx
Apr 06 10:20:38 <ThickAsThieves>	you gotta pay topace
Apr 06 10:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:21:07 <ThickAsThieves>	is it really 10btc?
Apr 06 10:21:13 <kakobrekla>	i think jurov just self smarted himlsef
Apr 06 10:21:13 <ThickAsThieves>	that must be an outdated price
Apr 06 10:21:17 <kakobrekla>	perhaps
Apr 06 10:21:22 <kakobrekla>	was 10 when i last looked at it
Apr 06 10:21:29 <pigeons>	yep
Apr 06 10:21:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00070759 = 0.2123 BTC [-]
Apr 06 10:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4375 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:22:05 <jurov>	Okay. So I'll transfer your sdice from havelock to mpex for 0.1btc only.
Apr 06 10:22:40 <kakobrekla>	self smart; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj3SIXtLaAY
Apr 06 10:22:49 <ThickAsThieves>	how would you do that without topace?
Apr 06 10:22:51 <jurov>	Ofc, must research if if allows transfer between users.
Apr 06 10:23:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think he has that feature
Apr 06 10:23:18 <pigeons>	that sounds good jurov, i'll get in touch later probably
Apr 06 10:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.265 = 1.325 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:25:13 <ThickAsThieves>	Namworld's SDICE is its own lil market
Apr 06 10:25:26 <DeaDTerra>	That logic... If I know more things my brain will use more oxygen and hence there's a bigger change I will die from a heart attack?
Apr 06 10:26:07 <kakobrekla>	perhaps thats why hes doing the show from jail
Apr 06 10:26:41 <jurov>	kakobrekla: who?
Apr 06 10:26:51 <kakobrekla>	16:22.37 ( kakobrekla ) self smart; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj3SIXtLaAY
Apr 06 10:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.265 = 3.975 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:27:19 <kakobrekla>	brb
Apr 06 10:27:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00271 = 0.0813 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.265 = 0.795 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:31:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00249 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 10:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.253 = 2.024 BTC [-]
Apr 06 10:34:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:35:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2523 = 0.7569 BTC [-]
Apr 06 10:35:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.253 = 1.012 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00276111 = 1.1044 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 10:51:08 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 06 10:51:09 <gribble>	There are currently 31748275 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11855944.8587 USD in total. | Data vintage: 76.1617 seconds
Apr 06 10:51:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 06 10:51:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.11000, Best ask: 142.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 142.98000, 24 hour volume: 50668.79562235, 24 hour low: 136.00000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 141.56102
Apr 06 10:51:32 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 135
Apr 06 10:51:32 <gribble>	There are currently 11439.837 bitcoins demanded at or over 135.0 USD, worth 1571682.99787 USD in total. | Data vintage: 99.8146 seconds
Apr 06 10:51:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.779 = 2.337 BTC [+]
Apr 06 10:51:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 148.9
Apr 06 10:51:52 <gribble>	There are currently 7253.3583 bitcoins offered at or under 148.9 USD, worth 1056222.62948 USD in total. | Data vintage: 119.2631 seconds
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Apr 06 11:01:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00995 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 11:27:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1035 = 0.207 BTC [+]
Apr 06 11:27:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 35 @ 0.1039 = 3.6365 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 11:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4375 BTC [+]
Apr 06 11:28:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
Apr 06 11:28:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 11 @ 0.105999 = 1.166 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 11:28:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7788 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 11:30:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C119T] 5 @ 0.27839364 = 1.392 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 11:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 11:44:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C122T] 5 @ 0.28150864 = 1.4075 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 12:18:13 <bitessak>	;;ticker
Apr 06 12:18:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.20300, Best ask: 143.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04700, Last trade: 143.25000, 24 hour volume: 47264.29232165, 24 hour low: 138.02000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 142.02168
Apr 06 12:21:30 <bitessak>	;;goxlag
Apr 06 12:21:31 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
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Apr 06 12:27:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00070759 = 1.5213 BTC [-]
Apr 06 12:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [+]
Apr 06 12:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 12:39:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7799 = 1.5598 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 12:46:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Apr 06 12:46:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000655 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
Apr 06 12:48:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 11 @ 0.000601 = 0.0066 BTC [-]
Apr 06 12:50:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0037 BTC [-]
Apr 06 12:50:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2022 @ 0.003333 = 6.7393 BTC [+]
Apr 06 12:51:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.002755 BTC [+]
Apr 06 12:51:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0027 BTC [-]
Apr 06 12:51:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0027 = 0.0135 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 12:51:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 29 @ 0.0037 = 0.1073 BTC [-]
Apr 06 12:51:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.0037 = 0.037 BTC [-]
Apr 06 12:51:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.003601 = 0.0072 BTC [-]
Apr 06 12:51:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00357 BTC [-]
Apr 06 12:55:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 06 12:55:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.11968, Best ask: 143.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08032, Last trade: 143.20000, 24 hour volume: 43220.78928430, 24 hour low: 139.00000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 142.25566
Apr 06 12:56:44 <deadweasel>	quiet weekend thankfully.
Apr 06 12:57:16 <deadweasel>	http://www.superfluosopher.com/digital-world/the-internet-needs-idiots
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Apr 06 13:07:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7799 = 2.3397 BTC [+]
Apr 06 13:07:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7799 = 3.8995 BTC [+]
Apr 06 13:09:21 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel innit nice.
Apr 06 13:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 06 13:09:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00276111 / 0.00311367 / 0.0033333 (17066 shares, 53.14 BTC), 7D: 0.00276111 / 0.00323887 / 0.00439992 (547459 shares, 1,773.15 BTC), 30D: 0.00276111 / 0.00364928 / 0.006 (1624459 shares, 5,928.11 BTC)
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Apr 06 13:15:13 <Namworld>	Hmm, I'm surprised about those stats. There's no source included for them sadly.
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Apr 06 13:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	well.. he is fluoridated.
Apr 06 13:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00070085 = 0.4906 BTC [-]
Apr 06 13:28:38 <deadweasel>	i know, at least they get us high for free.
Apr 06 13:28:58 <deadweasel>	8 glasses a day
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Apr 06 13:49:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.7715 = 16.973 BTC [-]
Apr 06 13:49:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7711 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 14:30:40 <TomServo>	;;totalbc
Apr 06 14:30:42 <gribble>	10999975.0
Apr 06 14:31:05 <mircea_popescu>	next block.
Apr 06 14:31:24 <TomServo>	odd, blockexplorer already shows 11mn
Apr 06 14:34:42 <kakobrekla>	>. I have no qualms about what EskimoBob did so long as he pays for it, one way or another. And a 10% return in a little over a month is fine with me. I've evaluated his business plan and I rather like the little setup he has going. It works like this. Either he makes me rich, or he turns out to be a scammer and I get the last laugh. I could care less either way.
Apr 06 14:34:45 <kakobrekla>	omg this is rich
Apr 06 14:35:07 <mircea_popescu>	wait what?
Apr 06 14:35:16 <kakobrekla>	also this >EskimoBob is receiving regular scheduled distributions on his investment along with all my other former shareholders. Further, I own some shares of ART. In short, EskimoBob works for me now, Augustocroppo, and in my books that's the way it should be.
Apr 06 14:35:22 <kakobrekla>	quote from usagi
Apr 06 14:35:25 <kakobrekla>	both
Apr 06 14:35:31 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130947.msg1757328#msg1757328
Apr 06 14:35:50 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 06 14:36:03 <kakobrekla>	i dont even....
Apr 06 14:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 06 14:36:38 <mircea_popescu>	well so good for them then
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Apr 06 14:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	BTC has gone from $10 to $100, and ART lost 98.41% of it's investor's money. To point out the obvious, the expected loss was 90%, not 98.41%. Losing that extra 8.41% is much, much larger than it seems. Because accounting for the fluctuation in currency prices, ART went on to lose 84.1% of it's value.
Apr 06 14:37:35 <mircea_popescu>	Please explain how you lost 84.1% of your investor's money, or (at current exchange prices) over $60,000.
Apr 06 14:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty good
Apr 06 14:38:03 <kakobrekla>	yup
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Apr 06 14:40:09 <thestringpuller>	I'm about to hire Yakuza to collect my coin from Usagi
Apr 06 14:40:32 <thestringpuller>	"But that is water under the bridge now. EskimoBob is receiving regular scheduled distributions on his investment along with all my other former shareholders." <- is a lie
Apr 06 14:40:53 <jurov>	i think hiring psy would be sufficient
Apr 06 14:40:57 <thestringpuller>	the payments were not regular and have ceased without any warning or explanation except when probed
Apr 06 14:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.26 = 0.78 BTC [+]
Apr 06 14:41:04 <jurov>	..er..that's korea. nvm.
Apr 06 14:42:30 <thestringpuller>	I'm so glad you guys ran him out of business.
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Apr 06 14:43:02 <mircea_popescu>	<thestringpuller> the payments were not regular and have ceased without any warning or explanation except when probed << sorta like tradehill ?
Apr 06 14:43:37 <kakobrekla>	no that was the old company you silly!
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Apr 06 14:49:13 <thestringpuller>	the tradehill people vanished
Apr 06 14:49:20 <thestringpuller>	but usagi is still trying to "make a name for himself"
Apr 06 14:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	no they didn't vanish, bitcoin scamdation people are trying to push kenna's new scam
Apr 06 14:49:59 <mircea_popescu>	well, were. i think they got scared off meanwhile.
Apr 06 14:51:16 <kakobrekla>	why do you think so?
Apr 06 14:51:19 <kakobrekla>	the scared off part
Apr 06 14:52:55 <KRS1>	there will be a gox announcement about alternative currencies next week?
Apr 06 14:56:17 <jurov>	maybe they clearly think their multicurrency multiorder book isn't laggy enough
Apr 06 14:56:48 <jurov>	;;goxlag
Apr 06 14:56:49 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.2938 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00259276071389 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Earth to Moon (0.00257 AU).
Apr 06 14:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla because they seem to have abandoned the promotion effort.
Apr 06 14:57:13 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Apr 06 14:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 i'll bet you there won't be.
Apr 06 14:57:19 <kakobrekla>	or they are just plain incompetent
Apr 06 14:58:11 <kakobrekla>	its gonna be all over once i manage to slam btc/usd in mt4 anyway.
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Apr 06 15:00:51 <jurov>	really, i wouldn't put it past them trying to solve their problems
Apr 06 15:01:23 <jurov>	by throwing in another virtual currency on bitcoin side
Apr 06 15:01:38 <jurov>	like euro/jpy is on usd side
Apr 06 15:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.26 = 0.78 BTC [+]
Apr 06 15:02:14 <jurov>	thereby their monstrous order book code achieving sentience
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Apr 06 15:04:20 <jurov>	then we're lost. unless we can release mpex code to slay it.
Apr 06 15:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla do that already
Apr 06 15:05:34 <kakobrekla>	is not easy.
Apr 06 15:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i just signed off on some juicy foruming
Apr 06 15:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	link you as soon as it's there, i think you'll appreciate.
Apr 06 15:10:57 <thestringpuller>	MPOE-PR is on the offensive?
Apr 06 15:11:02 <thestringpuller>	^- @ mircea_popescu
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Apr 06 15:12:12 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 06 15:12:12 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 3 hours, 29 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
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Apr 06 15:14:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00427 BTC [+]
Apr 06 15:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166578.msg1758253#msg1758253
Apr 06 15:14:54 <mircea_popescu>	there we go.
Apr 06 15:14:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00428 = 0.0086 BTC [+]
Apr 06 15:17:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 204 @ 0.0032 = 0.6528 BTC [-]
Apr 06 15:17:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.004 = 0.008 BTC [-]
Apr 06 15:17:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00321 = 3.21 BTC [+]
Apr 06 15:17:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00343 BTC [-]
Apr 06 15:17:47 <guruvan>	http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/NMCUSD/money/ticker http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/LTCUSD/money/ticker  http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/PPCUSD/money/ticker
Apr 06 15:18:00 <guruvan>	looks like they will add NMC & LTC
Apr 06 15:18:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3434 @ 0.003333 = 11.4455 BTC [+]
Apr 06 15:22:31 <thestringpuller>	ehh
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Apr 06 15:22:41 <thestringpuller>	berating a core Bitcoin dev....
Apr 06 15:22:54 <bowjob>	hey mp
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Apr 06 15:25:12 <mircea_popescu>	hey bj
Apr 06 15:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller mpoe delivers.
Apr 06 15:26:30 <thestringpuller>	so Garzik is a glitzdev now?
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Apr 06 15:26:50 <thestringpuller>	also I really like this quote: "Nobody respects actors. Nobody. Everybody respects producers. Everybody. Including the actors. Starting with the actors." since being on set I have found this to be incredibly true.
Apr 06 15:26:57 <thestringpuller>	Without the producers, there is not industry.
Apr 06 15:27:01 <thestringpuller>	no*
Apr 06 15:28:14 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 06 15:29:27 <thestringpuller>	I'm moving to romania, that's where all the cool people live.
Apr 06 15:29:28 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 06 15:29:58 <mircea_popescu>	i only take girls, so.
Apr 06 15:30:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.00992 = 0.1488 BTC [-]
Apr 06 15:30:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.009911 = 0.109 BTC [-]
Apr 06 15:30:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.15271 = 15.271 BTC [-]
Apr 06 15:31:37 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller what set have you been on btw ?
Apr 06 15:32:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 15:38:24 <bowjob>	so your rape contest got some pretty decent submissions
Apr 06 15:39:46 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob it did didn't it.
Apr 06 15:39:56 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu I've been on the set of Walking Dead and a few others, didn't work was just a guest of my friends who are in the industry.
Apr 06 15:40:00 <jurov>	what did you expect? gore? tentacles?
Apr 06 15:40:19 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: also been on the set of a few shows that were pitched to Adult Swim but never made it to air.
Apr 06 15:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cvool
Apr 06 15:41:29 <thestringpuller>	film industry is cutthroat, I can't wait for the first scammer to try and raise money for a movie
Apr 06 15:41:54 <thestringpuller>	and it ends up being some indiegogo bull crap that gets 100 views on youtube after spending 10,000 coins
Apr 06 15:42:01 <jurov>	there's this bitcoin documentary, dunno how they raised money for it
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Apr 06 15:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller ya that already happened.
Apr 06 15:42:38 <thestringpuller>	well shit
Apr 06 15:43:52 <jurov>	what is the rule no #? when you thought of a scam, someone on internet already did it
Apr 06 15:44:09 <jurov>	maybe rule 33, preceding rune 34
Apr 06 15:44:12 <jurov>	*rule
Apr 06 15:46:22 <thestringpuller>	lol jurov
Apr 06 15:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	what's the call code for nigeria ?
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Apr 06 15:53:48 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Apr 06 15:53:59 <thestringpuller>	234 is the country code
Apr 06 15:54:09 <thestringpuller>	234
Apr 06 15:54:11 <thestringpuller>	Nigeria, Dialing code
Apr 06 15:56:10 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 06 15:56:22 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 06 16:06:29 <bowjob>	gah, ATC hasnt paid me yet. think he ran away?
Apr 06 16:06:53 <mircea_popescu>	atc ?
Apr 06 16:07:24 <bowjob>	ATC777, the dude that shorted BTC at 75 dollars
Apr 06 16:07:40 <bowjob>	it was only 6 BTC split between me and john, the mod.. but it amounts to $1k now
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Apr 06 16:08:19 <bowjob>	his excuse was his computer fried while mining ltc.!!
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Apr 06 16:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	heh. shorting btc, such an adventure.
Apr 06 16:11:59 <thestringpuller>	I love the 5000 btc wall at 145
Apr 06 16:12:22 <thestringpuller>	3000 btc wall at 141
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Apr 06 16:12:32 <Namworld>	http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf
Apr 06 16:12:33 <thestringpuller>	price is the most stable it's been in months
Apr 06 16:12:36 <Namworld>	oooookkay...
Apr 06 16:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller innit nice ?
Apr 06 16:13:27 <bowjob>	seems like half the news is about hatin btc
Apr 06 16:13:40 <bowjob>	they jelly they didnt get in early... but we're still early
Apr 06 16:13:56 <thestringpuller>	maybe
Apr 06 16:13:57 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob if everyone was pumping it we'd have a probkem.
Apr 06 16:14:03 <thestringpuller>	the biggest danger to bitcoin is yourself if you're inpet
Apr 06 16:14:06 <thestringpuller>	inept*
Apr 06 16:14:28 <Namworld>	Did they take their 1,247 participants in an asylum or at some conspiracists conference or something?
Apr 06 16:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld you know, not as a dig but, you seem regularly confounded by the state of the world in various details.
Apr 06 16:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you just hang out in an insland ?
Apr 06 16:15:47 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Apr 06 16:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.899 = 5.697 BTC [-]
Apr 06 16:16:34 <KRS1>	price of btc on gox is inflated
Apr 06 16:16:42 <Namworld>	I just live in Canada and rarely encounter such people...
Apr 06 16:16:58 <Namworld>	Maybe I should start asking these kind of questions to random people.
Apr 06 16:17:06 <thestringpuller>	O CANADA
Apr 06 16:17:19 <Namworld>	Maybe it's all an illusion
Apr 06 16:17:19 <thestringpuller>	Something something something Canada
Apr 06 16:17:40 <Namworld>	That's pretty much it.
Apr 06 16:17:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 06 16:17:46 <thestringpuller>	looks like HIM is recovering, but it's gonna plummet if they depend on BFL for their ASICS
Apr 06 16:17:49 <thestringpuller>	!ticker H HIM
Apr 06 16:17:51 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.89900000 / 1.8997619 / 1.90000000 (21 shares, 39.89500000 BTC), 7D: 1.87000000 / 1.97199182 / 2.08000000 (110 shares, 216.91910000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.84047117 / 2.08000000 (694 shares, 1277.28699220 BTC)
Apr 06 16:18:23 <bowjob>	him was 4.6 btc when it started
Apr 06 16:18:33 <bowjob>	then it reached 20 btc, then it split
Apr 06 16:18:46 <bowjob>	its doing extremely well for a 22gigahash farm
Apr 06 16:18:46 <thestringpuller>	It is a strong fund
Apr 06 16:18:56 <bowjob>	yeah, the bfl gets me
Apr 06 16:19:09 <thestringpuller>	but as the difficulty rises I'm paranoid of their being a run on the stock
Apr 06 16:19:20 <thestringpuller>	everyone will vacate their position in HIM and move to ASICMINER or something
Apr 06 16:19:31 <bowjob>	i missed the reaction here about bfl jacking prices of their non existent machine
Apr 06 16:19:32 <bowjob>	s
Apr 06 16:21:05 <thestringpuller>	HIM started at ~4.6 before the split?
Apr 06 16:21:06 <thestringpuller>	jeezus
Apr 06 16:21:29 <thestringpuller>	the split was about approx 14 btc / share no? @ bowjob
Apr 06 16:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	so it's a 22gigahash farm ? how many shares total ?
Apr 06 16:21:36 <thestringpuller>	lemme check mircea_popescu
Apr 06 16:22:00 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Apr 06 16:22:06 <Namworld>	According to the poll, the more conservative someone is, the more likely someone is to believe pretty much anything.
Apr 06 16:23:08 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: 300 shares were issued initially during the IPO from June of 2012 to October of 2012
Apr 06 16:23:43 <thestringpuller>	as bowjob indicated 4.6 BTC was the initial price for the first 175 shares
Apr 06 16:23:58 <bowjob>	it wasnt a hot stock back then
Apr 06 16:24:04 <bowjob>	at the time, pirates fund was the rage
Apr 06 16:24:12 <thestringpuller>	the remaining 125 were priced at 15.0 BTC per unit
Apr 06 16:24:26 <thestringpuller>	On March 1st 2013 there was a 1:10 split
Apr 06 16:24:33 <thestringpuller>	3000 shares exist as of today
Apr 06 16:25:15 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 3000 * 1.89
Apr 06 16:25:15 <gribble>	5670
Apr 06 16:25:41 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (175 * 4.6) + (125 * 15)
Apr 06 16:25:41 <gribble>	2680
Apr 06 16:25:47 <thestringpuller>	so it's doubled in value
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Apr 06 16:28:58 <deadweasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169062.new#new
Apr 06 16:29:00 <deadweasel>	lovely
Apr 06 16:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	wait what.
Apr 06 16:29:43 <mircea_popescu>	22 gh farm worth 6k btc ?!
Apr 06 16:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	how is this worth a million dollars ?
Apr 06 16:30:42 <mircea_popescu>	" NOw I can not live in my home and live in the garage of vegetable garden from my parents." lol
Apr 06 16:30:45 <bgupta>	That's like what 30k worth of GPU servers?
Apr 06 16:30:51 <KRS1>	Everyones worth a mil now mircea
Apr 06 16:31:01 <KRS1>	at least those who knew about btc
Apr 06 16:31:07 <KRS1>	whats the hassle man
Apr 06 16:31:34 <bowjob>	mp, i remember you asking topace about the hashpower of the rig
Apr 06 16:31:37 <bowjob>	of the farm
Apr 06 16:31:41 <bowjob>	he said 22 gigahash
Apr 06 16:31:46 <bowjob>	you don't remember? :p
Apr 06 16:32:08 <bowjob>	he also said the fund will buy his 1.5 TH bfl preorder
Apr 06 16:32:23 <bowjob>	i dont think he ordered avalons
Apr 06 16:39:07 <mircea_popescu>	o so wait, it's the case they have ~6k btc on hand + 22gh deployed ?
Apr 06 16:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	so the stock is pretty much 99% cash ?
Apr 06 16:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob i sorta vaguely recall ya
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Apr 06 16:40:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 489 @ 0.001021 = 0.4993 BTC [-]
Apr 06 16:41:23 <novusordo>	"Hi Mara. That is a hard life you have there."
Apr 06 16:41:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.00102 = 0.0031 BTC [-]
Apr 06 16:41:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 102 @ 0.00101 = 0.103 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 16:42:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Apr 06 16:42:20 <bowjob>	yeah man, 22 gh/s for $1m.
Apr 06 16:42:43 <bowjob>	they have a 1.5 TH BFL pre order.. we all know how that turned out.
Apr 06 16:43:19 <bowjob>	if bitbet sentiment is correct, batch 2 avalon will ship before bfl
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Apr 06 16:43:25 <bowjob>	due to power issues, ect
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Apr 06 16:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob all i gotta say is : bfl demoed box of fans ; 3 months later their rig cools passively.
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Apr 06 16:48:58 <bowjob>	i;d be nice to get 3 mil for my avalon 2
Apr 06 16:49:07 <bowjob>	then again i might be shortchanging myself in the future
Apr 06 16:49:08 <bowjob>	lol
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Apr 06 16:51:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 75 @ 0.00271 = 0.2033 BTC [+]
Apr 06 16:51:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 58 @ 0.00271 = 0.1572 BTC [+]
Apr 06 16:52:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 143 @ 0.0027 = 0.3861 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 17:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Apr 06 17:16:21 <dub>	;;bids 0
Apr 06 17:16:24 <gribble>	There are currently 31700037 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11949260.2416 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0101 seconds
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Apr 06 17:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.185 BTC [+]
Apr 06 17:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
Apr 06 17:27:58 <Guest9327>	hmm anyone know if the old blkXXX.dat files in ~/.bitcoin can be removed? they arent used anymore in 0.8 right?   0.8 uses the files in the ~/.bitcoin/blocks folder ?
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Apr 06 17:28:15 <topace>	whoop sorry stupid guest
Apr 06 17:28:59 <mircea_popescu>	well... as with anything else in bitcoin, nobody really knows
Apr 06 17:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	try it out and see
Apr 06 17:29:06 <topace>	hahha
Apr 06 17:29:08 <topace>	indeed
Apr 06 17:29:17 <topace>	well the date/time on them are all last-updated when i did the 0.8 upgrade
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Apr 06 17:29:20 <topace>	so im gonna assume safe
Apr 06 17:29:25 <topace>	and if its not, well itll just redownload
Apr 06 17:29:35 <topace>	fucking screwed up my backup system
Apr 06 17:29:48 <topace>	my nightly backups went from 400MB on the server, to like 10GB
Apr 06 17:30:02 <jurov>	Guest3893: I have removed them fine.
Apr 06 17:30:22 <topace>	jurov:  that was me :)
Apr 06 17:30:51 <jurov>	haha ok.
Apr 06 17:31:17 <jurov>	just inquired by email if asset transfers between havelock users are possible?
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Apr 06 17:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.265 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 17:38:53 <topace>	jurov: not automatically
Apr 06 17:38:56 <topace>	it'd be a manual push
Apr 06 17:39:11 <jurov>	so 10 BTC fee, too?
Apr 06 17:39:11 <topace>	request by email and i can do it
Apr 06 17:39:15 <topace>	hmmm
Apr 06 17:39:32 <topace>	10 seems a bit steep at current rates eh
Apr 06 17:39:38 <topace>	even for havelock->mpex push
Apr 06 17:39:53 <topace>	i do plan on building an interface to do it locally between users
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Apr 06 17:49:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00297 BTC [+]
Apr 06 17:49:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 85 @ 0.00298 = 0.2533 BTC [+]
Apr 06 17:49:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.00298 = 1.49 BTC [+]
Apr 06 17:49:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 55 @ 0.00299 = 0.1645 BTC [+]
Apr 06 17:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 06 17:51:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.00000, Best ask: 143.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 143.00000, 24 hour volume: 20022.34673600, 24 hour low: 139.54000, 24 hour high: 144.50000, 24 hour vwap: 142.27062
Apr 06 17:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	heh 20k. more like it.
Apr 06 17:52:07 <meh>	What exactly happens here?
Apr 06 17:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin finance.
Apr 06 17:53:44 <meh>	So like stock trading?
Apr 06 17:53:48 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 06 17:54:19 <meh>	Just out of curiosity, why does this site look so...old?
Apr 06 17:54:49 <mircea_popescu>	you're looking at irc through a web interface.
Apr 06 17:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2924 = 1.462 BTC [+]
Apr 06 17:55:10 <jurov>	which site? mpex.co? yeah because it is
Apr 06 17:55:17 <bowjob>	this is the future
Apr 06 17:55:22 <bowjob>	everything is simplistic. lol
Apr 06 17:55:22 <meh>	I understand the ICR, but MPEX
Apr 06 17:55:41 <mircea_popescu>	whoa fuck me he actually did mean mpex
Apr 06 17:55:46 <topace>	hahaha
Apr 06 17:55:56 *	topace hands mircea_popescu a prize
Apr 06 17:55:58 <mircea_popescu>	it looks old because it is old. like dragons
Apr 06 17:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	and other ancient evil.
Apr 06 17:56:10 <meh>	ahh, i see
Apr 06 17:56:10 <bowjob>	http://mpex.co/cherries2.png
Apr 06 17:56:15 <bowjob>	it comes with this pic
Apr 06 17:56:37 <meh>	easter egg much?
Apr 06 17:56:42 <bgupta>	sigh http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9976524/Russians-most-interested-in-Bitcoin-searches-show.html
Apr 06 17:56:43 <mircea_popescu>	a little.
Apr 06 17:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta why sigh ?
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Apr 06 17:57:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01998 BTC [-]
Apr 06 17:57:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.01999 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Apr 06 17:57:52 <meh>	while i'm still asking noobish questions. What's assbot?
Apr 06 17:58:07 <meh>	a bot that informs you?
Apr 06 17:58:10 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 06 17:58:28 <topace>	meh: informs of trades that happen on the various exchange sites
Apr 06 17:58:40 <topace>	you can find sites listed on http://bitcoin-assets.com
Apr 06 17:58:43 <topace>	most of them have tickers on assbot
Apr 06 17:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	meh you can also read http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-many-ways-available-for-talking-to-mpex/
Apr 06 17:58:52 <topace>	!ticker h vtx
Apr 06 17:58:54 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.40600000 / 0.4351875 / 0.44000000 (80 shares, 34.81499976 BTC), 7D: 0.36000000 / 0.49321213 / 0.61488800 (1250 shares, 616.51515803 BTC), 30D: 0.36000000 / 0.4346185 / 0.79900000 (13330 shares, 5793.46456825 BTC)
Apr 06 17:58:59 <meh>	This, this, seems like a nice idea
Apr 06 17:59:16 <bgupta>	Bubble/cyprus/russians..  sartng to think we may infact be de for a serious correction..
Apr 06 17:59:49 <bgupta>	damn computer is dropping chars. prolly ned to restart IRC clin
Apr 06 17:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta how does russians - > correction follow ?
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Apr 06 18:00:09 <bowjob>	he means upwards
Apr 06 18:00:15 <jurov>	cause putins says so
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Apr 06 18:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	correction upward ? we've not been on a downtrend since last year
Apr 06 18:01:31 <mircea_popescu>	topace you run him btw ?
Apr 06 18:01:40 <jurov>	anyon knows how easy is for russian to buy btc? i guess sepa isn't accessible there
Apr 06 18:01:40 <topace>	mircea_popescu: yes
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Apr 06 18:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	you publish reports somewherre ?
Apr 06 18:01:56 <topace>	yea on the financials tab on the site
Apr 06 18:01:57 <topace>	just html
Apr 06 18:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	jurov sure it is. all their cash is in london nao
Apr 06 18:02:02 <bgupta>	ok.. we'll see.. anyway gota run go eat. shld be iteresting.
Apr 06 18:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	topace mind linking the lazy ?
Apr 06 18:02:15 <topace>	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=HIM
Apr 06 18:02:19 <topace>	click financials
Apr 06 18:02:25 <topace>	(its javascripted tabs)
Apr 06 18:02:38 <topace>	oh  shit that reminds me, i never published last months yet
Apr 06 18:02:39 <topace>	crap
Apr 06 18:02:43 <topace>	ill do that tomrroww
Apr 06 18:02:44 <topace>	gotta run now
Apr 06 18:02:47 <topace>	bachelor party for friend
Apr 06 18:02:49 <topace>	2 hour drive away
Apr 06 18:02:52 <topace>	and they're already half drunk
Apr 06 18:02:55 <mircea_popescu>	mk
Apr 06 18:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is a cashflow statement, was looking for a balancesheet
Apr 06 18:03:08 <topace>	there's almosta  year's worth of reports there now tho :)
Apr 06 18:03:11 <topace>	oh
Apr 06 18:03:14 <topace>	its under fund reports
Apr 06 18:03:17 <topace>	at the top of the page
Apr 06 18:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Apr 06 18:03:20 <topace>	but only quarterly
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Apr 06 18:03:26 <topace>	statement of net assets
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Apr 06 18:03:29 <topace>	not exactly a balance sheet
Apr 06 18:03:30 <topace>	but close
Apr 06 18:04:34 <mircea_popescu>	ok well... i'm confused now. net assets 1.6k btc, and 3k shares outstanding
Apr 06 18:04:56 <topace>	well talk tomorrow or monday
Apr 06 18:04:57 <mircea_popescu>	do these 1.1k btc worth of mining gear correspond to a 22gh/s mining farm ?
Apr 06 18:05:00 <topace>	ill be in the office all day monday
Apr 06 18:05:04 <mircea_popescu>	alrighty.
Apr 06 18:06:09 <meh>	So somehow I found myself in the ICR chat with some of the top bitcoin players?
Apr 06 18:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 06 18:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	and its irc not icr
Apr 06 18:06:47 <meh>	Whops, slip of the keyboard but awesome.
Apr 06 18:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov anyway, isn't the novacoin exchange russian ?
Apr 06 18:07:58 <bowjob>	yeah, this is the new world order
Apr 06 18:08:24 <meh>	If I was thinking about investing somewhere where would you recommend at such a time in bitcoins history?
Apr 06 18:08:43 <bowjob>	after the great crash
Apr 06 18:08:47 <mircea_popescu>	prolly your best bet is to lurk here.
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Apr 06 18:08:58 <bowjob>	wait
Apr 06 18:09:01 <jurov>	don't know about novacoin
Apr 06 18:09:07 <bowjob>	i interpreted the question wrong
Apr 06 18:09:13 <meh>	Not invest into bitcoins, but bitcoins stocks
Apr 06 18:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	yes meh. lurk here a few weeks, you'll get a handle of what's what, can proceed from there.
Apr 06 18:09:52 <meh>	Works for me!
Apr 06 18:10:12 <jurov>	meh also try reading the prospects and do some P/E calculations
Apr 06 18:10:32 <bowjob>	you missed some great moments.. like someone fat fingering $80k
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Apr 06 18:11:35 <meh>	I guess I was already doing P/E calculations without knowing what they were called. and great moments? $80K?
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Apr 06 18:12:29 <bowjob>	someone sold lots of satoshi dice shares at 1/10th of their price accidentally, worth about 80k at the time
Apr 06 18:12:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003 = 0.15 BTC [+]
Apr 06 18:12:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00309 = 0.0927 BTC [+]
Apr 06 18:12:46 <bowjob>	it was a fat finger mistake, missed an extra zero
Apr 06 18:13:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
Apr 06 18:13:28 <meh>	That's sad and awesome at the same time.
Apr 06 18:13:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7799 BTC [+]
Apr 06 18:13:58 <jurov>	anyone saw ? http://www.thebitcointrader.com/2013/04/torbroker-silk-road-of-stock-brokers.html
Apr 06 18:14:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.78 = 3.12 BTC [+]
Apr 06 18:16:26 <jurov>	also, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159237.msg1745116#msg1745116
Apr 06 18:17:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.106 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 18:22:38 <bowjob>	Ooh. 1 ton of gold seized at border crossing
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Apr 06 18:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	jurov saw it in yest's suymmaries, didn't think anything of it
Apr 06 18:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00300609 = 5.411 BTC [-]
Apr 06 18:28:16 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.DICE
Apr 06 18:28:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00276111 / 0.00311396 / 0.003333 (16960 shares, 52.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00276111 / 0.00323841 / 0.00439992 (553467 shares, 1,792.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00276111 / 0.00364758 / 0.006 (1630897 shares, 5,948.83 BTC)
Apr 06 18:28:25 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Apr 06 18:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00070053 / 0.00070878 / 0.000714 (44033 shares, 31.21 BTC), 7D: 0.00059218 / 0.00066953 / 0.00071514 (2191537 shares, 1,467.31 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069285 / 0.00077505 (8957250 shares, 6,206.03 BTC)
Apr 06 18:28:29 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 06 18:28:31 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 104.18044961 / 111.50875055 / 136.37176816 (22473 shares, 10,540.45 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 06 18:29:20 <pgp>	nice to see a quite weekend and rock steady USD/BTC rate...
Apr 06 18:29:27 <pgp>	quiet
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Apr 06 18:36:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 57 @ 0.00316 = 0.1801 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 18:39:00 <KRS1>	too quiet
Apr 06 18:40:14 <kakobrekla>	BAM!
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Apr 06 18:56:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00239 BTC [-]
Apr 06 18:56:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0024 = 0.024 BTC [+]
Apr 06 18:59:33 <meh>	Wait, wait, wait. I was talking to the owner of MPEX?
Apr 06 18:59:57 <guruvan>	In presence of celebrity
Apr 06 19:00:33 <Ukto>	meh: and you didnt get his autograph???
Apr 06 19:01:03 <guruvan>	irc autographs are teh best
Apr 06 19:02:15 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHAHAHA
Apr 06 19:02:18 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Apr 06 19:03:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 389 @ 0.0024 = 0.9336 BTC [+]
Apr 06 19:04:18 <MJR_III>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 06 19:04:19 <gribble>	141.03
Apr 06 19:06:01 <thestringpuller>	oh it works again?
Apr 06 19:06:14 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 06 19:06:14 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 7 hours, 23 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
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Apr 06 19:14:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 615 @ 0.00177 = 1.0886 BTC [+]
Apr 06 19:15:19 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.BBET
Apr 06 19:15:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0007531 / 0.00201282 / 0.00201395 (25028 shares, 50.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00050015 / 0.00192763 / 0.00201401 (77248 shares, 148.91 BTC)
Apr 06 19:15:50 <MJR_III>	;;goxlag
Apr 06 19:15:50 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 06 19:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.troll.me/images/conspiracy-keanu/what-if-the-government-was-replaced-by-idiots-and-were-all-on-a-game-show-to-see-how-long-we-can-tolerate-it.jpg
Apr 06 19:17:21 <kakobrekla>	nice
Apr 06 19:17:33 <kakobrekla>	possibly true
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Apr 06 19:20:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00178 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 19:22:17 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 06 19:22:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.22300, Best ask: 143.48899, Bid-ask spread: 0.26599, Last trade: 143.48899, 24 hour volume: 17917.72892032, 24 hour low: 139.54000, 24 hour high: 143.90000, 24 hour vwap: 142.12441
Apr 06 19:22:40 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 18000*143
Apr 06 19:22:40 <gribble>	2574000
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Apr 06 19:45:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.78 = 3.12 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 20:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30969999 BTC [+]
Apr 06 20:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.3097 = 1.2388 BTC [+]
Apr 06 20:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3097 BTC [+]
Apr 06 20:18:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.895 = 7.58 BTC [-]
Apr 06 20:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3098 = 0.6196 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 20:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 20:24:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.18199 BTC [+]
Apr 06 20:24:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.182 = 0.364 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 20:40:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00070001 = 5.3901 BTC [-]
Apr 06 20:52:04 <kakobrekla>	https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528464_10151846460759966_1261528900_n.jpg
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Apr 06 20:54:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7705 BTC [-]
Apr 06 20:54:01 <kakobrekla>	accually the gangam resemblce is what i find funny
Apr 06 20:54:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7701 BTC [-]
Apr 06 20:55:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00428 BTC [+]
Apr 06 20:57:59 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 06 20:58:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.80000, Best ask: 143.20998, Bid-ask spread: 0.40998, Last trade: 144.00000, 24 hour volume: 18593.38989175, 24 hour low: 139.54000, 24 hour high: 143.99800, 24 hour vwap: 142.21853
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Apr 06 21:04:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1607 @ 0.00070715 = 1.1364 BTC [+]
Apr 06 21:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 173 @ 0.00069565 = 0.1203 BTC [-]
Apr 06 21:04:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00069565 = 0.9043 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 21:19:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7823 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 21:23:02 <kakobrekla>	hi ian_
Apr 06 21:23:22 <kakobrekla>	heres a long shot, is your second name Bakewell? :)
Apr 06 21:23:29 <ian_>	nope
Apr 06 21:23:46 <kakobrekla>	I bet thats what he'd say.
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Apr 06 21:25:09 <ian_>	:-)
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Apr 06 21:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 06 21:30:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01799 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 21:31:42 <Bugpowder>	;;bida 0
Apr 06 21:31:43 <gribble>	Error: "bida" is not a valid command.
Apr 06 21:31:44 <Bugpowder>	;;bida 0
Apr 06 21:31:45 <gribble>	Error: "bida" is not a valid command.
Apr 06 21:31:48 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 06 21:31:51 <gribble>	There are currently 31701185 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12041582.8939 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0102 seconds
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Apr 06 21:35:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.018 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 21:36:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7824 = 3.1296 BTC [+]
Apr 06 21:36:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7824 = 3.1296 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 21:39:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7701 BTC [-]
Apr 06 21:39:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7701 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 21:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4375 BTC [-]
Apr 06 21:50:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.429 = 5.148 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 22:03:34 <jborkl>	getting gigabit internet service soon here
Apr 06 22:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	good for you
Apr 06 22:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.071 = 3.213 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 22:16:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.00429 = 0.1287 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 22:22:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.003353 = 0.0101 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 22:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00067951 = 4.213 BTC [-]
Apr 06 22:27:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8606 @ 0.00066572 = 5.7292 BTC [-]
Apr 06 22:31:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.003353 = 0.0168 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 22:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 600 @ 0.20602864 = 123.6172 BTC
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Apr 06 23:16:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009999 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Apr 06 23:16:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0032 = 0.064 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 23:18:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1394 @ 0.00066572 = 0.928 BTC [-]
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Apr 06 23:21:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.009999 = 0.07 BTC [+]
Apr 06 23:21:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 195 @ 0.01 = 1.95 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 23:30:03 <kakobrekla>	oh man, cream with cherry on top https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130947.80
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Apr 06 23:33:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 5 @ 0.20607971 = 1.0304 BTC [+]
Apr 06 23:37:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.004 = 0.008 BTC [+]
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Apr 06 23:43:32 <orkaa>	meh
Apr 06 23:43:42 <orkaa>	daylight will show itself in a few moments
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Apr 06 23:53:57 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 06 23:53:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 144.03001, Best ask: 144.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21999, Last trade: 144.03001, 24 hour volume: 17113.43954789, 24 hour low: 139.55000, 24 hour high: 144.50000, 24 hour vwap: 142.78054
Apr 06 23:53:59 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 06 23:54:01 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.991951 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00198785869756 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 06 23:55:07 <dub>	;;nethash
Apr 06 23:55:08 <gribble>	58669.0607015
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Apr 06 23:56:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.138 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 00:01:01 <Bugpowder>	boooring
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Apr 07 00:09:08 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 00:09:09 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.163252 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00032715518014 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 07 00:09:35 <wences>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 00:09:37 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 07 00:12:07 <Diablo-D3>	lol.
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Apr 07 00:16:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0028 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 00:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 01:01:13 <bgupta>	Curious what do folks thing about investing in sadoshi dice vs bitbet?
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Apr 07 01:04:58 <bgupta>	;;asks 1000000
Apr 07 01:05:00 <gribble>	There are currently 53284.744 bitcoins offered at or under 1000000.0 USD, worth 137629903.421 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0046 seconds
Apr 07 01:05:09 <bgupta>	;;bids 0
Apr 07 01:05:10 <gribble>	There are currently 31089330 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12046441.5615 USD in total. | Data vintage: 9.4315 seconds
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Apr 07 01:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14716 @ 0.00065031 = 9.57 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 02:06:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7822 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 02:13:10 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 07 02:13:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 144.30002, Best ask: 144.34900, Bid-ask spread: 0.04898, Last trade: 144.50000, 24 hour volume: 16350.33062771, 24 hour low: 141.10000, 24 hour high: 144.50000, 24 hour vwap: 143.05461
Apr 07 02:13:48 <bowjob>	The us dollar got hacked
Apr 07 02:13:49 <bowjob>	http://www.naijatrends.com/page_images/989731796_1347604230.jpg
Apr 07 02:13:50 <bowjob>	xD
Apr 07 02:20:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7703 BTC [-]
Apr 07 02:20:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7702 BTC [-]
Apr 07 02:21:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 07 02:21:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76102 BTC [-]
Apr 07 02:22:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.76101 = 7.6101 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 02:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.821 BTC [-]
Apr 07 02:32:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 1.82 = 16.38 BTC [-]
Apr 07 02:32:53 <bgupta>	Useless stat: Bitcoin marketcap in USD has recently passed $1 for every view of Gangnam Style on Youtube.
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Apr 07 02:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00066474 = 0.8642 BTC [+]
Apr 07 02:42:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5706 @ 0.00066475 = 3.7931 BTC [+]
Apr 07 02:42:08 <bgupta>	part of the problem is lack of excellerated video
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Apr 07 03:26:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00301847 = 3.0185 BTC [+]
Apr 07 03:29:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 121 @ 0.2 = 24.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 03:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
Apr 07 03:55:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 31 @ 0.31 = 9.61 BTC [+]
Apr 07 03:56:00 <bgupta>	looks like we are hitting resistance at 145.. next spots of resistance at 147, 149 and 150.
Apr 07 03:59:14 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 03:59:15 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 07 04:00:10 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 07 04:00:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 144.97999, Best ask: 144.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 144.97999, 24 hour volume: 15549.92314906, 24 hour low: 141.10000, 24 hour high: 144.99980, 24 hour vwap: 143.24483
Apr 07 04:00:34 <bgupta>	;;bads 0
Apr 07 04:00:35 <gribble>	Error: "bads" is not a valid command.
Apr 07 04:00:38 <bgupta>	;;bids 0
Apr 07 04:00:41 <gribble>	There are currently 31102672 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12097195.1445 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0102 seconds
Apr 07 04:00:48 <bgupta>	;;asks 1000000
Apr 07 04:00:48 <gribble>	There are currently 51931.797 bitcoins offered at or under 1000000.0 USD, worth 137465436.002 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.8078 seconds
Apr 07 04:05:15 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 04:05:16 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 07 04:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00069031 = 3.6586 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 04:17:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00249 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 04:19:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 11 @ 0.0025 = 0.0275 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 04:20:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 04:28:00 <bitesak>	;;bids 100
Apr 07 04:28:01 <gribble>	There are currently 53436.112 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 6493178.89294 USD in total. | Data vintage: 80.4188 seconds
Apr 07 04:28:11 <bitesak>	;;asks 200
Apr 07 04:28:12 <gribble>	There are currently 26949.497 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 4498414.43946 USD in total. | Data vintage: 91.4832 seconds
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Apr 07 04:35:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.761011 BTC [+]
Apr 07 04:35:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.76101 = 3.8051 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 04:37:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75007 BTC [-]
Apr 07 04:38:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.741 BTC [-]
Apr 07 04:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 07 04:38:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.44452, Best ask: 145.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00548, Last trade: 145.44452, 24 hour volume: 18564.53534544, 24 hour low: 141.10000, 24 hour high: 145.45000, 24 hour vwap: 143.50361
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Apr 07 04:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	i hope gox is enjoying the 20k a day volumes lol.
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Apr 07 04:41:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 04:43:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.739 = 13.302 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 04:45:56 <taub>	not sure if it's gox fault or just lack of trading overall
Apr 07 04:46:05 <taub>	it has been very very calm the last days
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Apr 07 04:46:19 <taub>	but I guess everything is calm after a 50% rise
Apr 07 04:46:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 04:47:23 <taub>	and it has been this calm/low volume between the last big breakouts soon, so
Apr 07 04:47:33 <taub>	they'll make up for it
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Apr 07 04:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	<taub> but I guess everything is calm after a 50% rise << ahahah
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Apr 07 04:48:49 <mircea_popescu>	mno, the danger after the 50% rise is the 500% rise following.
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Apr 07 04:51:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2794 @ 0.00068716 = 1.9199 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 04:53:16 <taub>	going for the breakout
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Apr 07 04:55:58 <taub>	i'm not sure if its the constant lag or what, btu the excitement of the depth also was really slow, maybe it was just lack of activity in general
Apr 07 04:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 92 @ 0.00301847 = 0.2777 BTC [+]
Apr 07 04:56:57 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 04:56:58 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
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Apr 07 04:57:05 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 07 04:57:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.70001, Best ask: 145.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.29998, Last trade: 145.59002, 24 hour volume: 18957.34005147, 24 hour low: 141.10000, 24 hour high: 146.30000, 24 hour vwap: 143.56917
Apr 07 04:58:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 70 @ 0.0034 = 0.238 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 05:20:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.39 = 1.17 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 05:22:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 05:29:17 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 07 05:29:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 147.00000, Best ask: 147.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.85000, Last trade: 147.85000, 24 hour volume: 19484.53263950, 24 hour low: 141.10000, 24 hour high: 146.75100, 24 hour vwap: 143.65784
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Apr 07 05:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 1000 @ 0.20696119 = 206.9612 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 05:46:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [-]
Apr 07 05:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	so apparently vircurex was hacked.
Apr 07 05:51:06 <FabianB>	ah, and looks like central will resume trading tomorrow
Apr 07 05:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. seems indeed they were telling the truth and balances unaffected.
Apr 07 05:52:57 <mircea_popescu>	but they did lose something with that free wallet thing
Apr 07 05:55:37 <FabianB>	they are not telling how much
Apr 07 05:56:19 <FabianB>	but maybe they are insured to a degree by their bank partner
Apr 07 05:59:34 <FabianB>	online wallets are a bad idea anyway
Apr 07 06:00:04 <FabianB>	both to provide them as well as to use them
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Apr 07 06:04:52 <mircea_popescu>	yeah on the last part
Apr 07 06:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	im pretty sure they're not insured on the wallet.
Apr 07 06:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Apr 07 06:05:07 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Apr 07 06:05:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:58a353388cb9a0606e43d0bf489ed36b29bb910345d158127b7504e8
Apr 07 06:05:49 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Apr 07 06:05:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;unrate kumala
Apr 07 06:05:56 <gribble>	Successfully removed your rating for kumala.
Apr 07 06:07:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00131 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 06:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165500.0;all
Apr 07 06:10:13 <mircea_popescu>	that shit;'s so funny
Apr 07 06:10:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.106 BTC [+]
Apr 07 06:12:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00131 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 06:13:58 <ChaangNoi>	ath on a saturday?
Apr 07 06:14:02 <ChaangNoi>	what day is it?
Apr 07 06:14:16 <ChaangNoi>	hell its sunday here
Apr 07 06:15:57 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: has someone opened a scamtag thread for that guy?
Apr 07 06:16:04 <ChaangNoi>	every time i come here its daed? everyone buy out silk road or something?
Apr 07 06:16:12 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 which one, coinjedi ?
Apr 07 06:16:23 <Diablo-D3>	whoever runs that betting site
Apr 07 06:16:27 <ChaangNoi>	d3 you saw matthew is no longer a scammer? lol
Apr 07 06:16:34 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, the very thread is dedicated to scamtagging the site owner and luke
Apr 07 06:16:40 <ChaangNoi>	coinjed or something
Apr 07 06:17:05 <Diablo-D3>	oh it is in the scammer subforum
Apr 07 06:17:08 <ChaangNoi>	why is luke getting tagged in that drama?
Apr 07 06:17:19 <ChaangNoi>	what did he do?
Apr 07 06:17:21 <Diablo-D3>	ChaangNoi: because he works for BFL now
Apr 07 06:17:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000649 = 0.0032 BTC [+]
Apr 07 06:17:29 <ChaangNoi>	oh
Apr 07 06:17:32 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi well... shilling
Apr 07 06:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	he's not very good at it either.
Apr 07 06:17:38 <ChaangNoi>	hmm
Apr 07 06:17:43 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: well apparently they're paying him in units
Apr 07 06:17:45 <ChaangNoi>	neither is inaba
Apr 07 06:17:51 <Diablo-D3>	thus he doesnt qualify as a shill
Apr 07 06:17:52 <ChaangNoi>	no one at bfl does anything well that i can tell
Apr 07 06:17:55 <Diablo-D3>	hes an employee.
Apr 07 06:17:55 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 150
Apr 07 06:17:58 <gribble>	There are currently 5227.766 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 780813.315661 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Apr 07 06:18:09 <mircea_popescu>	lmao "paying him in units"
Apr 07 06:18:11 <ChaangNoi>	this sunday rally is shocking...
Apr 07 06:18:14 <mircea_popescu>	jesus incredible how stupid people can be
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Apr 07 06:18:33 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi heh. people think they have things figured out.
Apr 07 06:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	as it turns out, they never do.
Apr 07 06:18:47 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Apr 07 06:18:49 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: luke basically admitted it
Apr 07 06:19:03 <Diablo-D3>	so w/e
Apr 07 06:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	but it's ridiculious lol. what units.
Apr 07 06:19:19 <Diablo-D3>	well thats the thing
Apr 07 06:19:24 <Diablo-D3>	no units are ever going to exist
Apr 07 06:19:26 <ChaangNoi>	149 is an ath right?
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Apr 07 06:19:30 <Diablo-D3>	so I wonder what luke think hes going to get
Apr 07 06:19:36 <mircea_popescu>	if you're gonna shill for scammers, at least don't : a. be as stupid as gigavps, shilling for pirate and being paid in "reputation"
Apr 07 06:19:41 <ChaangNoi>	been traveling
Apr 07 06:19:49 <mircea_popescu>	b. be as stupid as lukejr, shilling for bfl being paid in "units"
Apr 07 06:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	get paid in cash. btc, that's what it's for.
Apr 07 06:20:02 <Diablo-D3>	man
Apr 07 06:20:05 <ChaangNoi>	or btc...
Apr 07 06:20:05 <Diablo-D3>	maybe I can get people to shill for me
Apr 07 06:20:17 <ChaangNoi>	ill shill for btc
Apr 07 06:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 07 06:20:24 <Diablo-D3>	Ill pay them in rack space at the DMC DC.
Apr 07 06:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 probably should start a nigerian bride service
Apr 07 06:20:45 <ChaangNoi>	i shill ltc, that seemed to work out so far, lol
Apr 07 06:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	pay the dorks in nigerian brides.
Apr 07 06:21:03 <ChaangNoi>	nigerian/? lol
Apr 07 06:21:12 <Diablo-D3>	why nigerian?
Apr 07 06:21:13 <ChaangNoi>	ill send you 100's of s.e.a. girls
Apr 07 06:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i dunno i just picked something
Apr 07 06:21:33 <ChaangNoi>	hot thai girl is worth 50 very hot nigerians
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Apr 07 06:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi black chicks have bigger tits
Apr 07 06:21:56 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: oh yes they do
Apr 07 06:21:57 <ChaangNoi>	true
Apr 07 06:22:07 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, it was random, could have said cambodian
Apr 07 06:22:09 <Diablo-D3>	just want to smother yourself in them
Apr 07 06:22:10 <ChaangNoi>	im not a huge tit guy however
Apr 07 06:22:11 <ChaangNoi>	some guys are
Apr 07 06:22:20 <Diablo-D3>	Im a medium tit guy.
Apr 07 06:22:25 <ChaangNoi>	huge tits come with large ass...
Apr 07 06:22:29 <Diablo-D3>	anything bigger than D is just what.
Apr 07 06:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	just for you then, medium tit guy : http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls6yiwUk9S1qbj7slo1_500.jpg
Apr 07 06:22:36 <ChaangNoi>	im very much a small ass guy so i deal with normal sized tits
Apr 07 06:22:45 <Diablo-D3>	now see, the best part of a woamn
Apr 07 06:22:46 <Diablo-D3>	the hips
Apr 07 06:22:58 <ChaangNoi>	not hard to find Cs here
Apr 07 06:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	i like big tits, but i would say Cs count.
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Apr 07 06:24:46 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: man, whatever happened to women with wide hips
Apr 07 06:24:51 <Diablo-D3>	like, the ones from the 60s
Apr 07 06:25:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 715 @ 0.20885915 = 149.3343 BTC [+]
Apr 07 06:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	they're all locked in my basement.
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Apr 07 06:25:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.1499 = 1.499 BTC [+]
Apr 07 06:25:54 <Diablo-D3>	well thats not very fair
Apr 07 06:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00065754 = 0.0658 BTC [-]
Apr 07 06:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	ha! shush commie.
Apr 07 06:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130947.msg1758226#msg1758226
Apr 07 06:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	eskimo bob loses 99.x% of NAV
Apr 07 06:27:06 <mircea_popescu>	pretty funnay.
Apr 07 06:27:14 <Diablo-D3>	WOAH
Apr 07 06:27:17 <Diablo-D3>	eskimobob is back?
Apr 07 06:28:04 <mircea_popescu>	well, he had that genius plan of buying kilns in ltc
Apr 07 06:28:11 <mircea_popescu>	ltc he bought kilns with was 0.02
Apr 07 06:28:16 <mircea_popescu>	ltc now is 4.x
Apr 07 06:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	suprisingly enough, the value of a kiln hasn't moved much in the interval
Apr 07 06:28:41 <mircea_popescu>	or, for that matter, since about 5400 BC.
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Apr 07 06:31:38 <Diablo-D3>	a kiln?
Apr 07 06:31:44 <Diablo-D3>	as in, a oven you bake pottery in?
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Apr 07 06:33:22 <punkman>	a very hot oven
Apr 07 06:34:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [-]
Apr 07 06:34:23 <dust-otc>	ouch
Apr 07 06:34:26 <jurov>	should have built it himself from stones and mud
Apr 07 06:34:54 <jurov>	maybe he'll get some volunteers too, such things are deemed cool
Apr 07 06:34:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.739 = 1.478 BTC [-]
Apr 07 06:35:58 <ChaangNo_>	ohmfg   14000 waiting in the gox line????
Apr 07 06:35:59 <ChaangNo_>	fuck me
Apr 07 06:36:25 <ChaangNo_>	that is why we have an ath on a sunday
Apr 07 06:36:59 <ChaangNo_>	who wants to buy some calls on my behalf?
Apr 07 06:37:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Apr 07 06:37:25 <ChaangNo_>	what is the price of a 225 call?
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Apr 07 06:38:14 <jurov>	where? there is no such thing on mpex yet
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Apr 07 06:38:41 <ChaangNo_>	damn
Apr 07 06:38:41 <jurov>	lol, had too look up just to check mp didn't add them
Apr 07 06:38:51 <ChaangNo_>	what is the highest call?
Apr 07 06:39:12 <jurov>	200
Apr 07 06:39:25 <ChaangNo_>	happen to have the price on hand?
Apr 07 06:39:35 <ChaangNo_>	iv never used his site
Apr 07 06:39:35 <jurov>	u can go to mpex.co?
Apr 07 06:39:41 <ChaangNo_>	yeah i will
Apr 07 06:40:08 <jurov>	!ticker m O.USD.C200T
Apr 07 06:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:O.USD.C200T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  /  /  ( shares,  BTC), 30D: 0.05079251 / 0.05079251 / 0.05079251 (200 shares, 10.16 BTC)
Apr 07 06:40:32 <jurov>	!depth m O.USD.C200T
Apr 07 06:40:39 <jurov>	$depth O.USD.C200T
Apr 07 06:40:40 <mpexbot>	jurov: O.USD.C200T Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
Apr 07 06:40:41 <mpexbot>	jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.0821222']
Apr 07 06:40:48 <jurov>	yup here we go
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Apr 07 06:42:04 <jurov>	lol the bidprice is so telling
Apr 07 06:42:14 <jurov>	cya later
Apr 07 06:42:24 <ChaangNo_>	lol im not sure what im even looking at, and i used to trade gold options
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Apr 07 06:48:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.00301847 = 0.1811 BTC [+]
Apr 07 06:50:03 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 yes. exacrtly.
Apr 07 06:50:16 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: for what?
Apr 07 06:50:39 <mircea_popescu>	for burning pottery with his burned out pothead friends ?
Apr 07 06:50:43 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea.
Apr 07 06:51:16 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNo_ you pay .082122etc btc for the dollar value of 1 btc over 200
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Apr 07 06:54:55 <ChaangNo_>	ahh
Apr 07 06:55:06 <ChaangNo_>	thats why i did not get it, you had fiat in there
Apr 07 06:55:42 <ChaangNo_>	so about $16 a contract
Apr 07 06:55:51 <ChaangNo_>	(assuming $200)
Apr 07 06:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	i don't follow.
Apr 07 06:56:09 <ChaangNo_>	so like $219ish to break even just doing the maths in my head
Apr 07 06:56:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 200 / (1 - .82)
Apr 07 06:56:30 <gribble>	1111.11111111
Apr 07 06:56:31 <ChaangNo_>	what does the price need to be for me to break even at that price?
Apr 07 06:56:33 <mircea_popescu>	um
Apr 07 06:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 200 / (1 - .082)
Apr 07 06:56:36 <gribble>	217.864923747
Apr 07 06:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	217.8
Apr 07 06:56:49 <ChaangNo_>	okay so i was a bit off, but close for doing it in my head
Apr 07 06:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Apr 07 06:57:10 <ChaangNo_>	hmm, yeah we might get that but ill pass,
Apr 07 06:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	real easy to calc, strike / (1 - premium) for calls
Apr 07 06:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	strike / (1 + premium) for puts
Apr 07 06:57:22 <ChaangNo_>	oh it expires the 27th?
Apr 07 06:57:26 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 07 06:57:27 <ChaangNo_>	hmmm
Apr 07 06:57:54 <ChaangNo_>	okay ill buy a handful if anyone will do it for me, as i dont have an account
Apr 07 06:58:31 <mircea_popescu>	you can open a coinbr.com one
Apr 07 06:58:54 <ChaangNo_>	i wont tonight, but might tomorrow
Apr 07 06:59:22 <ChaangNo_>	too much to do :/   if the price is about the same i might do it tomorrow
Apr 07 07:00:33 <mircea_popescu>	well if it's not you might do it the day after
Apr 07 07:00:37 <mircea_popescu>	not like they're going anywhere
Apr 07 07:02:49 <ChaangNo_>	yeah, i will look into it, iv been traveling and dead tired
Apr 07 07:02:54 <ChaangNo_>	and have ot go out again soon
Apr 07 07:03:01 <ChaangNo_>	tomorrow ill have some downtime i hope
Apr 07 07:03:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 16 @ 0.000649 = 0.0104 BTC [+]
Apr 07 07:03:40 <ChaangNo_>	the 14,000 in the gox line is such a bullish sign, as is new ATH on a sunday
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Apr 07 07:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 400 @ 0.21982575 = 87.9303 BTC
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Apr 07 07:14:43 <ChaangNo_>	;;calc 9140/ (1-.2198)
Apr 07 07:14:44 <gribble>	11714.9448859
Apr 07 07:14:59 <ChaangNo_>	;;calc 140/ (1-.2198)
Apr 07 07:15:00 <gribble>	179.441168931
Apr 07 07:15:04 <ChaangNo_>	hmm
Apr 07 07:16:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7779 BTC [+]
Apr 07 07:34:22 <mircea_popescu>	so here's a basic improvement to current asic hardware : you only need to compute the 2nd hash digit if the 1st came out as 0
Apr 07 07:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	if it didn't... you skip to increasing the nonce.
Apr 07 07:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	it's mind boggling to me that nobody has so far implemented this.
Apr 07 07:38:37 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: I dont think you understand how the hash is computed
Apr 07 07:38:49 <mircea_popescu>	possibly. enlighten me ?
Apr 07 07:38:50 <Scrat>	and the check is only done in the end, the difference is trivial
Apr 07 07:39:00 <Scrat>	ping Diablo-D3
Apr 07 07:39:01 <mircea_popescu>	why would you compute the whole thing ?
Apr 07 07:39:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's trivial if you're thinking software. as far as the chip goes, it has to be actually etched on the chip.
Apr 07 07:39:58 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: what.
Apr 07 07:40:15 <Scrat>	the hash block size is the minimum divisible entity in the hash afaik, it's the smallest unit that you can compute
Apr 07 07:40:15 <Diablo-D3>	oh
Apr 07 07:40:23 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: GPU kernels ALREADY only check the first number, H
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Apr 07 07:40:42 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 i was talking asics
Apr 07 07:40:48 <Diablo-D3>	asics can do the same thing
Apr 07 07:40:51 <Diablo-D3>	they just dont
Apr 07 07:40:54 <mircea_popescu>	CAN being the key word.
Apr 07 07:40:59 <Scrat>	Diablo-D3: check vs compute
Apr 07 07:41:01 <Scrat>	big difference
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Apr 07 07:41:04 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: well
Apr 07 07:41:05 <mircea_popescu>	is exactly what i'm saying. could push up energy effuiciency what, 50%
Apr 07 07:41:07 <Diablo-D3>	the problem with asics are
Apr 07 07:41:10 <Diablo-D3>	you waste ROOM not time
Apr 07 07:41:16 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: oh no, not at all
Apr 07 07:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	you waste power too
Apr 07 07:41:23 <Diablo-D3>	to do it unoptimized, you do 128 rounds
Apr 07 07:41:27 <Diablo-D3>	to do it optimized, you do ~112
Apr 07 07:41:32 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Apr 07 07:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	you only get 10% ?
Apr 07 07:41:43 <Diablo-D3>	basically.
Apr 07 07:41:49 <mircea_popescu>	usure better optimisation wouldn't give you a ~68 ?
Apr 07 07:42:00 <Diablo-D3>	uh, you need to learn how mining works bro
Apr 07 07:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	prolly.
Apr 07 07:43:06 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: people have done static analysis on the process already
Apr 07 07:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	and ?
Apr 07 07:43:25 <Diablo-D3>	you cant save much because its a crypto hash.
Apr 07 07:43:29 <Diablo-D3>	it really is as secure as they say it is
Apr 07 07:43:48 <mircea_popescu>	still, research in this field is very valuable
Apr 07 07:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	as it will be our first line of warning to hash weakness
Apr 07 07:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that asicvendors can optimise towards 50%
Apr 07 07:44:16 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 07 07:44:17 <Diablo-D3>	you skip some steps at the start because its identical for that set of 2**32 nonces (its precomputed on the cpu and you send the state variables to the kenrel/asic/whatever)
Apr 07 07:44:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 149.90000, Best ask: 149.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 149.90000, 24 hour volume: 26217.06280203, 24 hour low: 141.10000, 24 hour high: 149.00000, 24 hour vwap: 145.13057
Apr 07 07:44:23 <deadweasel>	nice
Apr 07 07:44:36 <deadweasel>	150 on a sunday?  i hope so
Apr 07 07:44:36 <Diablo-D3>	you skip the last few steps because you only need H
Apr 07 07:44:41 <Diablo-D3>	and H is finished first
Apr 07 07:44:52 <Diablo-D3>	(then G, F, E, D, C, B, A)
Apr 07 07:45:12 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you cant optimize it usefully
Apr 07 07:45:15 <Scrat>	Diablo-D3: so you skip the final permutation step because you can check for the first few bytes
Apr 07 07:45:25 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: the last few steps yes
Apr 07 07:45:27 <Scrat>	but is it really 128 vs 112?
Apr 07 07:45:31 <Diablo-D3>	its roughly 112
Apr 07 07:46:25 <Diablo-D3>	at the start you can precompute parts of several rounds but still have to perform the rounds
Apr 07 07:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 im just saying, suppose somebody somehow DOES manage to optimise it.
Apr 07 07:46:41 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: btw, basically what you're describing is an attack on SHA256
Apr 07 07:46:47 <mircea_popescu>	i'm aware.
Apr 07 07:46:48 <Diablo-D3>	which doesn't exist, theoretically or otherwise
Apr 07 07:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't mean shouldn't be worked on. by us, preferably.
Apr 07 07:47:07 <Scrat>	Diablo-D3: is the gain 10%? because you're adding quite a few jumps
Apr 07 07:47:25 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: I made more gains out of DiabloMiner doing OTHER tricks
Apr 07 07:47:42 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: the precomputed parts of the beginning allow me to do more in parallel for example
Apr 07 07:47:55 <Diablo-D3>	on asics its going to be less of an importance
Apr 07 07:48:29 <Diablo-D3>	btw, if they're using a sea of rolled cores, they can already terminate the last 7 rounds
Apr 07 07:48:34 <Diablo-D3>	they just dont do them
Apr 07 07:48:35 <ChaangNo_>	walls down bitches
Apr 07 07:48:38 <ChaangNo_>	;;asks 150
Apr 07 07:48:38 <gribble>	There are currently 609.96465 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 91494.697263 USD in total. | Data vintage: 107.2627 seconds
Apr 07 07:49:13 <bitesak>	indeed
Apr 07 07:49:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 07:49:19 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: I spent about 5 days straight, 16 hours a day, optimizing DM's current kenrel
Apr 07 07:49:20 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 12.944595 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0259408234451 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Apr 07 07:49:31 <ChaangNo_>	;;asks 151
Apr 07 07:49:31 <gribble>	There are currently 599.86303 bitcoins offered at or under 151.0 USD, worth 90105.2013641 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.9313 seconds
Apr 07 07:49:33 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: it was not fun. it was not easy.
Apr 07 07:49:37 <ChaangNo_>	muhahaha 200 here we come
Apr 07 07:49:43 <bitesak>	it's getting nearly impressive
Apr 07 07:49:47 <ChaangNo_>	;;asks 155
Apr 07 07:49:48 <gribble>	There are currently 1579.7787 bitcoins offered at or under 155.0 USD, worth 240784.985216 USD in total. | Data vintage: 50.6103 seconds
Apr 07 07:49:48 <bitesak>	:)
Apr 07 07:50:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 1000 @ 0.22189328 = 221.8933 BTC [+]
Apr 07 07:50:15 <ChaangNo_>	we hit 154
Apr 07 07:50:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 1000 @ 0.21093758 = 210.9376 BTC [+]
Apr 07 07:50:23 <ChaangNo_>	on a sunday
Apr 07 07:50:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C149T] 1000 @ 0.19075632 = 190.7563 BTC
Apr 07 07:50:31 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: I even wrote a SSA compiler in perl that optimizes for parallel execution that you feed it opencl and get opencl
Apr 07 07:50:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C146T] 1000 @ 0.20058142 = 200.5814 BTC
Apr 07 07:50:33 <Scrat>	Diablo-D3: yeah, significant gains other than that would imply a weakening of sha256
Apr 07 07:50:41 <Diablo-D3>	exactly
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Apr 07 07:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	$avg ^oix
Apr 07 07:50:47 <Diablo-D3>	hell, we're already shaving off 64 rounds
Apr 07 07:50:54 <Diablo-D3>	hmac sha256 on 80 bytes does 192 rounds
Apr 07 07:51:19 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap ^oix
Apr 07 07:51:20 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 119.71467145 high: 153.05972645 low: 104.18044961 volume: 29193 btc: 11933.4892166 30 day: no data
Apr 07 07:51:33 <Diablo-D3>	we do the first 64 on the cpu, precompute everything we can for the second 64, and then skip the last 7 steps of the last 64
Apr 07 07:51:36 <Diablo-D3>	NOW
Apr 07 07:51:36 <Diablo-D3>	NOW
Apr 07 07:51:37 <Diablo-D3>	on asics
Apr 07 07:51:41 <Diablo-D3>	if you're doing rolled cores
Apr 07 07:51:52 <Diablo-D3>	you CANNOT precompute any part of the beginning
Apr 07 07:51:56 <Diablo-D3>	because that takes more room on the chip
Apr 07 07:52:01 <bitesak>	it's nice to see the bid price on Call options rising
Apr 07 07:52:21 <Diablo-D3>	and you want the cores as small and as stupid as possible so you can pack more onto the chip
Apr 07 07:52:27 <Diablo-D3>	what costs money is NOT electricity
Apr 07 07:52:32 <Diablo-D3>	its chip density
Apr 07 07:52:48 <Diablo-D3>	each chip is very expensive to produce, it needs tso hash as fast as possible
Apr 07 07:52:59 <Diablo-D3>	ANYTHING that makes it slower, no matter if its technically an optimization or not, is verboten
Apr 07 07:53:22 <ChaangNo_>	;;ticker
Apr 07 07:53:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 152.55000, Best ask: 153.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45000, Last trade: 152.55000, 24 hour volume: 29167.67662843, 24 hour low: 141.10000, 24 hour high: 154.00000, 24 hour vwap: 145.70414
Apr 07 07:53:45 <Diablo-D3>	ASIC optimization is not like GPU optimization
Apr 07 07:53:57 <Diablo-D3>	in GPUs we dont decide how the chip is laid out so we try to make th ebest use of it
Apr 07 07:54:02 <Diablo-D3>	on ASICs, we decide the layout
Apr 07 07:58:16 <ChaangNo_>	;;asks 160
Apr 07 07:58:17 <gribble>	There are currently 2447.8068 bitcoins offered at or under 160.0 USD, worth 385530.858307 USD in total. | Data vintage: 68.6515 seconds
Apr 07 07:58:30 <ChaangNo_>	;;asks 175
Apr 07 07:58:31 <gribble>	There are currently 9233.7121 bitcoins offered at or under 175.0 USD, worth 1535430.41877 USD in total. | Data vintage: 82.7095 seconds
Apr 07 07:58:59 <ChaangNo_>	pretty sure more than 1.5 million usd will hit the market next week
Apr 07 08:07:00 <DeaDTerra>	WTS G.SDICE,G.MPOE,G.BBET and BTCQuick!
Apr 07 08:07:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 07 08:07:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 153.00000, Best ask: 153.58998, Bid-ask spread: 0.58998, Last trade: 153.58999, 24 hour volume: 30061.67247586, 24 hour low: 141.10000, 24 hour high: 154.00000, 24 hour vwap: 145.95625
Apr 07 08:07:15 <ThickAsThieves>	mornin!
Apr 07 08:07:32 <ThickAsThieves>	154 on a sunday, heh
Apr 07 08:07:37 <anarchy5>	ChaangNo_: you can bet your ass on it, my friend is number 13630 in the verification queue lol
Apr 07 08:07:37 <ChaangNo_>	yeah no kidding
Apr 07 08:07:45 <anarchy5>	@mtgox
Apr 07 08:07:52 <anarchy5>	that should tell you enough
Apr 07 08:07:53 <ThickAsThieves>	''bids
Apr 07 08:07:55 <ChaangNo_>	we could see 225 easy this week
Apr 07 08:07:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 07 08:07:58 <gribble>	There are currently 31169744 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11568570.0482 USD in total. | Data vintage: 114.3914 seconds
Apr 07 08:08:12 <ChaangNo_>	;;asks 225
Apr 07 08:08:15 <gribble>	There are currently 20470.759 bitcoins offered at or under 225.0 USD, worth 3665049.412 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Apr 07 08:08:21 <anarchy5>	thats at least several thousand people wanting to wire huge amounts of money
Apr 07 08:08:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 159
Apr 07 08:08:36 <gribble>	There are currently 1744.9707 bitcoins offered at or under 159.0 USD, worth 272416.846437 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.3470 seconds
Apr 07 08:08:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 165
Apr 07 08:08:53 <gribble>	There are currently 4250.6917 bitcoins offered at or under 165.0 USD, worth 678554.100851 USD in total. | Data vintage: 37.7185 seconds
Apr 07 08:11:59 <ChaangNo_>	not even 1 m usd to 165 lol
Apr 07 08:12:03 <ChaangNo_>	well im off to dinner peace
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Apr 07 08:13:06 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 07 08:13:08 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 144.11
Apr 07 08:13:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000649 = 0.0032 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 08:15:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 07 08:15:17 <gribble>	59095.4517665
Apr 07 08:15:21 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 07 08:15:22 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 9035656.70557 based on data since last change | 8255413.27355 based on data for last three days
Apr 07 08:15:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc.stats
Apr 07 08:15:31 <gribble>	Error: "bc.stats" is not a valid command.
Apr 07 08:15:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 07 08:15:38 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230120 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1719 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 5 hours, 34 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9035656.70557 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.75911
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Apr 07 08:18:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000601 = 0.0018 BTC [-]
Apr 07 08:19:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000601 BTC [-]
Apr 07 08:21:40 <ThickAsThieves>	155
Apr 07 08:22:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 159
Apr 07 08:22:12 <gribble>	There are currently 2082.1976 bitcoins offered at or under 159.0 USD, worth 323973.73347 USD in total. | Data vintage: 57.7730 seconds
Apr 07 08:22:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 08:22:43 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 67.013025 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.134293351785 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 07 08:23:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000601 BTC [-]
Apr 07 08:24:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C122T] 15 @ 0.30377875 = 4.5567 BTC [+]
Apr 07 08:25:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000649 = 0.0065 BTC [+]
Apr 07 08:25:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000601 = 0.006 BTC [-]
Apr 07 08:30:24 <ThickAsThieves>	156
Apr 07 08:30:44 <ThickAsThieves>	157
Apr 07 08:31:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000649 BTC [+]
Apr 07 08:31:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 08:31:27 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 107.523063 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.215475014364 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 07 08:31:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 07 08:31:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 155.00000, Best ask: 156.94419, Bid-ask spread: 1.94419, Last trade: 155.00000, 24 hour volume: 31538.74456478, 24 hour low: 141.10000, 24 hour high: 154.00000, 24 hour vwap: 146.28584
Apr 07 08:32:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000601 BTC [-]
Apr 07 08:36:06 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 08:36:07 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.402352 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000806308903043 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
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Apr 07 08:47:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Apr 07 08:51:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [+]
Apr 07 08:54:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.777 = 1.554 BTC [-]
Apr 07 08:54:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.777 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 09:05:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 09:15:11 <MJR__>	hi all
Apr 07 09:15:31 <MJR__>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 07 09:15:32 <gribble>	145.30
Apr 07 09:15:43 <MJR__>	;;ticker
Apr 07 09:15:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 155.00000, Best ask: 155.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 155.00000, 24 hour volume: 33890.45484523, 24 hour low: 141.10000, 24 hour high: 157.00000, 24 hour vwap: 147.00146
Apr 07 09:16:12 <MJR__>	volume is super low
Apr 07 09:16:49 <MJR__>	;;bids 0
Apr 07 09:16:50 <gribble>	There are currently 31163186 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11546304.8383 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.2963 seconds
Apr 07 09:22:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 09:29:30 <taub>	http://blog.nus.edu.sg/lsm2251student/files/2010/04/24017-004-98EF07A1.jpg not bitcoin related but fucking awesome
Apr 07 09:30:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.138 BTC [-]
Apr 07 09:32:06 <deadweasel>	don't like figs.  like em less now
Apr 07 09:33:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00301847 = 0.0091 BTC [+]
Apr 07 09:35:37 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 07 09:35:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00276111 / 0.00320012 / 0.003333 (11015 shares, 35.25 BTC), 7D: 0.00276111 / 0.00320957 / 0.00419788 (538525 shares, 1,728.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00276111 / 0.00364711 / 0.006 (1631973 shares, 5,951.99 BTC)
Apr 07 09:35:48 <taub>	mircea_popescu: are the bots losses big yet?
Apr 07 09:41:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1499 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 09:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 07 09:44:51 <ThickAsThieves>	bots are probably that bad yet, I think there have been a fair amount of buys that haven't broke even yet.
Apr 07 09:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 07 09:45:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 155.01201, Best ask: 155.95871, Bid-ask spread: 0.94670, Last trade: 155.95871, 24 hour volume: 33977.68618309, 24 hour low: 141.31000, 24 hour high: 157.00000, 24 hour vwap: 147.18995
Apr 07 09:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	what, not even 500 yet ?
Apr 07 09:45:20 <ThickAsThieves>	i know right
Apr 07 09:45:22 <error4733>	middle of summer
Apr 07 09:46:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00301847 = 0.7546 BTC [+]
Apr 07 09:47:20 <MJR__>	prob
Apr 07 09:47:26 <MJR__>	200 at month end
Apr 07 09:47:36 <MJR__>	500 by August...
Apr 07 09:47:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm thinking 185 at end of option period
Apr 07 09:48:01 <MJR__>	we'll see, but I think this will be known as the summer of bitcoin
Apr 07 09:48:25 <MJR__>	we will see many things launched in San Jose in may
Apr 07 09:48:29 <ThickAsThieves>	hopefully not because it was a saprk, a flame, and a cloud of smoke
Apr 07 09:48:31 <MJR__>	many will fail
Apr 07 09:48:35 <ThickAsThieves>	spark*
Apr 07 09:48:40 <MJR__>	some will succeed
Apr 07 09:48:59 <MJR__>	ThickAsThieves: I hope not also
Apr 07 09:49:15 <error4733>	M157
Apr 07 09:49:19 <MJR__>	and while I don't want it to grow too fast, it's no ones to control
Apr 07 09:49:39 <MJR__>	and now seems to be the time...
Apr 07 09:49:47 <ThickAsThieves>	rising this quickly is totally ponzi mode, so increasing risk of people left holding the bag
Apr 07 09:50:06 <MJR__>	I think in 2016, monetary policy will be big during elections
Apr 07 09:50:21 <MJR__>	and I predict bitcoin will be mentioned during debates
Apr 07 09:50:23 <ThickAsThieves>	could be
Apr 07 09:50:44 <ThickAsThieves>	its appalling how little the average person cares about inflation, etc
Apr 07 09:50:57 <MJR__>	ThickAsThieves: it is ponzi mode EXCEPT that believing makes it true in some ways
Apr 07 09:50:57 <ThickAsThieves>	"just the way it is"
Apr 07 09:51:23 <ThickAsThieves>	until less people believe than do, and cash outs snowball
Apr 07 09:51:30 <MJR__>	Ron Paul runs as libertarian 3rd party
Apr 07 09:51:36 <MJR__>	people actually listen
Apr 07 09:51:51 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Apr 07 09:51:57 <ThickAsThieves>	3rd party aint happening yet
Apr 07 09:52:02 <MJR__>	he won't come close to winning
Apr 07 09:52:06 <ThickAsThieves>	not without some bigger change
Apr 07 09:52:15 <MJR__>	but he may get +10%
Apr 07 09:52:41 <MJR__>	and I also think that big change is coming
Apr 07 09:52:51 <ThickAsThieves>	i think social media has come a long way, and a 3rd party might indeed be able to "go viral"
Apr 07 09:52:51 <MJR__>	it's not going to be pretty
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Apr 07 09:53:34 <MJR__>	I think there is a bolus of cash making its way to the markets...once it clogs that...embolism of the economy
Apr 07 09:53:38 <ThickAsThieves>	ATH
Apr 07 09:53:43 <ThickAsThieves>	157.5
Apr 07 09:54:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 159.99
Apr 07 09:54:02 <gribble>	There are currently 1373.9347 bitcoins offered at or under 159.99 USD, worth 218473.092151 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds
Apr 07 09:54:34 <MJR__>	no one sees that QE hasn't hit the markets yet. the money is sitting in accounts, but is not widely distributed
Apr 07 09:54:43 <MJR__>	at least most of it
Apr 07 09:55:13 <MJR__>	think about it...how can I keep printing so fast, and prices are relatively stable?
Apr 07 09:55:55 <MJR__>	the banks which are selling the debt are not lending and spending...cuz they don't need to
Apr 07 09:56:05 <MJR__>	same as the bailout
Apr 07 09:56:18 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont know enough about how such things work, but I suppose it's at least possible for there to be a macro economy that encompasses much of newly printed money
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Apr 07 09:56:32 <MJR__>	they gave them money to lend, but they didn't...credit crunch was worse
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Apr 07 09:56:37 <ThickAsThieves>	in the end it would still result in inflation though
Apr 07 09:56:51 <MJR__>	I think the fed is depressing the price of gold
Apr 07 09:56:59 <MJR__>	using cheap fiat
Apr 07 09:57:10 <MJR__>	once that becomes unsustainable
Apr 07 09:57:25 <MJR__>	you'll see a run on the dollar, and into gold
Apr 07 09:57:31 <ThickAsThieves>	and bitcoin
Apr 07 09:57:34 <deadweasel>	they are
Apr 07 09:57:37 <MJR__>	yes exactly
Apr 07 09:57:50 <ThickAsThieves>	you watch Parks and Recreation?
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Apr 07 09:57:58 <MJR__>	all those effects will magnify the inflation
Apr 07 09:58:07 <MJR__>	and prices will go up severely
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Apr 07 09:58:17 <MJR__>	for consumers
Apr 07 09:58:27 <MJR__>	THAT'S when they'll care
Apr 07 09:58:46 <MJR__>	I do watch P&R
Apr 07 09:59:08 <ThickAsThieves>	Ron Swanson had a funny scene where he says he doesnt know how much gold he has except in wait, and oh some palladium too
Apr 07 09:59:14 <ThickAsThieves>	weight*
Apr 07 09:59:19 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 07 09:59:28 <MJR__>	I saw that yesterday!
Apr 07 09:59:37 <MJR__>	I don't know how much money I have
Apr 07 09:59:48 <MJR__>	but I know how many pounds of money I have
Apr 07 10:00:16 <punkman>	better than weightless paper
Apr 07 10:01:11 <ThickAsThieves>	paper has weight
Apr 07 10:01:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;)
Apr 07 10:01:26 <kakobrekla>	url to swanson vid?
Apr 07 10:01:28 <punkman>	I like Jack Offerman
Apr 07 10:01:47 <punkman>	makes things out of wood with his hands
Apr 07 10:01:53 <punkman>	and still has time to act
Apr 07 10:01:55 <MJR__>	so I could see gold hitting 2k/oz
Apr 07 10:02:30 <ThickAsThieves>	it JUST aired kako, not sure where it would be online other than dl'ing latest ep
Apr 07 10:02:40 <kakobrekla>	ah the last ep.
Apr 07 10:02:48 <kakobrekla>	ill see it then.
Apr 07 10:03:08 <punkman>	wait, I meant Nick Offerman
Apr 07 10:03:27 <punkman>	https://www.facebook.com/OffermanWoodshop
Apr 07 10:04:12 <MJR__>	http://youtu.be/l_3_9zK4y-Q here's a Ron Swanson gold quote
Apr 07 10:04:13 <kakobrekla>	hehe http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=237735892946898&set=a.237734052947082.61290.235639199823234&type=1&relevant_count=1
Apr 07 10:04:20 <MJR__>	but not the one from thur
Apr 07 10:05:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 50 @ 0.2 = 10 BTC [+]
Apr 07 10:05:51 <kakobrekla>	or have I? :)
Apr 07 10:06:01 <kakobrekla>	lmao
Apr 07 10:06:07 <MJR__>	hehehe
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Apr 07 10:06:47 <MJR__>	hmmm Ron Swanson mentioning bitcoin? love of anonymity, but dislike of tech...
Apr 07 10:07:02 <MJR__>	good long term BBET maybe
Apr 07 10:07:42 <MJR__>	also mentioned during 2016 debates is a good one
Apr 07 10:12:00 <MJR__>	first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win
Apr 07 10:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00065754 = 2.0384 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 10:16:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00066418 = 3.4869 BTC [+]
Apr 07 10:16:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00066566 = 3.1619 BTC [+]
Apr 07 10:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.19 = 3.57 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 10:40:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.003 = 0.12 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 10:44:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 07 10:44:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 156.00000, Best ask: 157.99900, Bid-ask spread: 1.99900, Last trade: 156.00000, 24 hour volume: 36710.60460093, 24 hour low: 141.40000, 24 hour high: 159.00000, 24 hour vwap: 148.07204
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Apr 07 10:46:20 <mircea_popescu>	<MJR__> ThickAsThieves: it is ponzi mode << no it's not.
Apr 07 10:46:29 <mircea_popescu>	no sentiment based thing can take 4 days off
Apr 07 10:46:31 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin did.
Apr 07 10:46:47 <MJR__>	lol I didn't mean it that way...context
Apr 07 10:47:30 <jurov>	mircea btw, are there new options with higher strikes planned? or at opex soonest?
Apr 07 10:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	a, i can add more at any time
Apr 07 10:48:22 <bgupta>	ThickAsThieves: "They" got a chance to buy back in, so it can rally a bit now.
Apr 07 10:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	 The online betting Web site Intrade, which gained widespread notice for serving as a predictions platform for elections and events not related to sports, is facing liquidation because of a $700,000 cash shortfall, a development that comes a month after it halted trading and froze its customer accounts.
Apr 07 10:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	Intrade’s director, Ronald Bernstein, said in a statement that the shortfall resulted from unspecified actions by two other parties, whom he did not name.
Apr 07 10:50:58 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 07 10:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	ian bakewell and eskimo bob
Apr 07 10:51:27 <MJR__>	really?
Apr 07 10:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	the first two lines ? yea.
Apr 07 10:52:16 <mircea_popescu>	the founder just looted the corp accoutns is all.
Apr 07 10:52:57 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Apr 07 10:53:08 <MJR__>	my earlier point was related to how banks are "ponzis" (loosely using that as a term for general speculation) in any trust based system if trust leaves the last one holding the bag is screwed
Apr 07 10:53:17 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoinity dead ?
Apr 07 10:53:29 <MJR__>	that's what I've heard today
Apr 07 10:53:38 <jurov>	yes, poor bitcoinity, few hours already
Apr 07 10:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ ya well not everything that relies on trust or appreciates in value is a ponzi.
Apr 07 10:53:45 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 10:53:46 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 07 10:56:49 <taub>	I think 200 can happen real fast
Apr 07 10:56:54 <taub>	at least faster than you think
Apr 07 10:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	anything can happen real fast or at least faster than you think
Apr 07 10:57:36 <taub>	:>
Apr 07 10:57:41 <deadweasel>	its coming.  i threw the bones .. they sgree.
Apr 07 10:57:47 <deadweasel>	agree
Apr 07 10:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	for instance, a hot young thing walking into your office naked takes all of 6 seconds
Apr 07 10:57:52 <taub>	keep laughing
Apr 07 10:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	it could happen, and i bet you it'd be faster than you'd think
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Apr 07 10:59:35 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: almost nothing is a "ponzi", as it refers to a specific sort of scam. if we are conflating that term with tulip mania or bubble, then most things are...the only difference in them is the probability that they become unpopular
Apr 07 10:59:41 <iz>	let's start including reasons for our guesses when we voice them.. for example, i think 200 can happen real fast because of something something
Apr 07 11:00:18 <iz>	taub: what is the something something reason for thinking 200 can happen real fast?
Apr 07 11:00:37 <MJR__>	one could argue that Mercedes are a "bubble" if everyone decides that luxury vehicles are retarded.
Apr 07 11:00:47 <KRS1>	sup MJR
Apr 07 11:00:58 <MJR__>	that is unlikely, as fast cars are universally cool as are leather warm seats
Apr 07 11:01:19 <MJR__>	sup KRS1
Apr 07 11:01:25 <iz>	so the big question is.. are bitcoins cool or not?
Apr 07 11:01:35 <MJR__>	right now obviously yes
Apr 07 11:01:39 <iz>	haha
Apr 07 11:01:45 <iz>	yup
Apr 07 11:01:46 <MJR__>	so were beanie babies
Apr 07 11:01:51 <KRS1>	until women dig em i'll say meh
Apr 07 11:01:52 <MJR__>	difference is utility
Apr 07 11:02:06 <MJR__>	I know many women who love bitcoins :)
Apr 07 11:02:15 <iz>	bitcoins: like beaning babies for drug addicts and nerds
Apr 07 11:02:15 <KRS1>	cant exactly walk up to a hot women and say, check out my bitcoins beeotch
Apr 07 11:02:21 <iz>	beanie
Apr 07 11:02:26 <MJR__>	nah
Apr 07 11:02:41 <KRS1>	then unF unF unF all night long buttsecks
Apr 07 11:02:42 <MJR__>	bitcoins have utility and "intrinsic" value
Apr 07 11:02:50 <taub>	iz: just the pattern, big move, long congestion, big move
Apr 07 11:02:59 <taub>	its' less than another 50% move to 200
Apr 07 11:03:10 <MJR__>	well, all im saying is im glad I have the 164 call
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Apr 07 11:03:41 <iz>	taub: i find with trends it's better to identify the CAUSE of the chart move, and then determine if you are seeing a similar cause happen and then notice the effect on the chart
Apr 07 11:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165766.msg1762710#msg1762710
Apr 07 11:03:53 <MJR__>	I think the number im looking for in long term stability is ~2700
Apr 07 11:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	so criptostox/vircurex is about going rogue
Apr 07 11:04:10 <taub>	i dont think about causes
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Apr 07 11:04:15 <iz>	taub: it's not so good to just look at the charts that are effected by causes and doing voodoo and gambler's logic on the charts based on how they look or what your gut says
Apr 07 11:04:25 <iz>	imho
Apr 07 11:04:26 <MJR__>	that number means rough parity with silver
Apr 07 11:04:35 <taub>	nah it can work
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Apr 07 11:04:50 <iz>	taub: a broken clock can be right twice a day too
Apr 07 11:04:52 <taub>	other markets are traded like this, why should bitcoin be different
Apr 07 11:05:06 <iz>	taub: other markets are traded by idiots that way
Apr 07 11:05:12 <iz>	so bitcoin shouldn't be any different
Apr 07 11:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 actually i have.
Apr 07 11:05:20 <taub>	okay fuck you
Apr 07 11:05:30 <iz>	sorry, i didn't maen that to come out that way
Apr 07 11:05:38 <taub>	i gave my opinion, im not gonna go into some ta debate again
Apr 07 11:05:50 <iz>	but just because ppl do it in other markets and are successful while the market is growing doesn't mean it's a good strategy
Apr 07 11:06:00 <MJR__>	point taken
Apr 07 11:06:16 <iz>	but of course it will work in the bitcoin wolrd AS LONG as the bitcoin market keeps growing
Apr 07 11:06:22 <MJR__>	that's what the market is there for...deciding who is right
Apr 07 11:06:42 <taub>	whatever iz
Apr 07 11:06:44 <deadweasel>	90% of the time tne best and hardrst decision is to hold and wait.
Apr 07 11:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4399999 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:07:02 <MJR__>	deadweasel: yep ^^ this
Apr 07 11:07:27 <MJR__>	especially with S.DICE T_T
Apr 07 11:07:52 <iz>	taub: i didn't mean any offense, but i do strongly suggest you consider looking at causes when trading
Apr 07 11:08:16 <deadweasel>	yeah, now that hes out of the US, im actually doubling up while the price is low.
Apr 07 11:08:24 <iz>	opposed to being intentionally ignorant about the causes
Apr 07 11:08:33 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 07 11:08:33 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 23 hours, 25 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 07 11:08:45 <thestringpuller>	;;seen Bugpowder
Apr 07 11:08:46 <gribble>	Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 7 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> boooring
Apr 07 11:08:47 <taub>	there is zero point in knowing the cause of a move
Apr 07 11:08:54 <MJR__>	I disagree
Apr 07 11:08:54 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 07 11:08:56 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 146.86
Apr 07 11:08:58 <taub>	it goes like this 99% of the time
Apr 07 11:09:00 <iz>	i disagree
Apr 07 11:09:01 <MJR__>	info is always valuable
Apr 07 11:09:05 <taub>	smart money buys when price is slow and steady
Apr 07 11:09:16 <taub>	stupid money chaeses price up
Apr 07 11:09:19 <taub>	smart money gets upt at top
Apr 07 11:09:22 <taub>	repeat
Apr 07 11:09:42 <taub>	and that action is reflected in prices
Apr 07 11:09:44 <MJR__>	yes, but picking tips and bottoms is where it gets hard
Apr 07 11:09:45 <taub>	and that you can trade
Apr 07 11:09:45 <iz>	well, you just looked at the causes...
Apr 07 11:10:01 <iz>	some of them
Apr 07 11:10:08 <iz>	there's more to it though
Apr 07 11:10:09 <taub>	that is one underlying cause to everything, i dont need to know it
Apr 07 11:10:14 <deadweasel>	cant pick tops/bottoms, onlu guesses
Apr 07 11:10:17 <taub>	well i dont care about those
Apr 07 11:10:25 <taub>	as long as it gets price to move, good then i can trade it
Apr 07 11:10:27 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 07 11:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 104.18044961 / 119.45293202 / 153.10362074 (28208 shares, 11,835.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 07 11:10:47 <MJR__>	so...Walmart decides to implement PoS system for bitcoin...irrelevant cause?
Apr 07 11:11:00 <thestringpuller>	;;calc 160-151 / 160
Apr 07 11:11:01 <gribble>	159.05625
Apr 07 11:11:08 <thestringpuller>	;;calc (160-151 )/ 160
Apr 07 11:11:08 <gribble>	0.05625
Apr 07 11:11:10 <MJR__>	or justifiable reason for price surge?
Apr 07 11:11:19 <abracadabra>	MJR_ link?
Apr 07 11:11:24 <taub>	what would that help me in trading?
Apr 07 11:11:24 <iz>	hypothetical
Apr 07 11:11:28 <MJR__>	no...thought experiment
Apr 07 11:11:34 <MJR__>	yes hypothetical
Apr 07 11:11:42 <thestringpuller>	MJR__: source?
Apr 07 11:11:48 <iz>	lol
Apr 07 11:11:49 <abracadabra>	heh
Apr 07 11:12:10 <abracadabra>	so...HomeDepot decides to implement PoS system for bitcoin...irrelevant cause?
Apr 07 11:12:13 *	abracadabra waits
Apr 07 11:12:17 <MJR__>	lol
Apr 07 11:12:26 <abracadabra>	:)
Apr 07 11:12:33 <MJR__>	just saying, im a big fan in investing in fundamentals
Apr 07 11:12:42 <MJR__>	real reasons
Apr 07 11:13:04 <MJR__>	not cuz I see a "cup and handle" or "head and shoulders"
Apr 07 11:13:13 <taub>	iz: there are endless approaches to trading, mine doesnt include analizing news and causes
Apr 07 11:13:36 <MJR__>	taub: agreed, lots of ways to skin a cat
Apr 07 11:13:37 <saulimus>	MJR_, it can be used for timing
Apr 07 11:13:39 <taub>	i still get a feel for the "buzz" in irc,  but it's usually just buzzing back what prices are showing already anyway
Apr 07 11:14:12 <MJR__>	saulimus: I agree...just don't find it accurate FOR ME
Apr 07 11:15:39 <MJR__>	is this the most efficient method for global finance...yes as of right now, what should that be worth? more than it currently is = buy
Apr 07 11:16:14 <MJR__>	then again, I've told you my med term target $2700
Apr 07 11:16:38 <thestringpuller>	MJR__: its not worth more thab 150 coin yet
Apr 07 11:16:40 <MJR__>	people who get rich from volatility are exchanges and brokers
Apr 07 11:16:46 *	abracadabra places a sell at $2699.99
Apr 07 11:16:48 <thestringpuller>	yup
Apr 07 11:17:06 <thestringpuller>	MJR__: you can also make money on stable prices
Apr 07 11:17:11 <taub>	deadweasel> cant pick tops/bottoms, onlu guesses, agreed
Apr 07 11:17:24 <MJR__>	^^ agree
Apr 07 11:17:24 <taub>	but you can certainly see areas where you don't want to buy anymore
Apr 07 11:17:26 <taub>	or sell
Apr 07 11:18:10 <MJR__>	the best strategy so far in the stock market, over almost any 20 year period, would be broad based index fund, but and hold
Apr 07 11:18:15 <MJR__>	buy*
Apr 07 11:18:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 07 11:18:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 158.33300, Best ask: 158.99990, Bid-ask spread: 0.66690, Last trade: 158.99990, 24 hour volume: 37140.60115126, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.00000, 24 hour vwap: 148.49438
Apr 07 11:18:38 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 160
Apr 07 11:18:38 <gribble>	There are currently 1497.9519 bitcoins offered at or under 160.0 USD, worth 238716.812309 USD in total. | Data vintage: 81.7698 seconds
Apr 07 11:18:50 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 155
Apr 07 11:18:50 <gribble>	There are currently 1192.4376 bitcoins demanded at or over 155.0 USD, worth 185610.325603 USD in total. | Data vintage: 93.2826 seconds
Apr 07 11:18:54 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 157
Apr 07 11:18:55 <gribble>	There are currently 11.335636 bitcoins demanded at or over 157.0 USD, worth 1787.4288674 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.0251 seconds
Apr 07 11:18:58 <taub>	thats maybe a very safe startegy, but not one with terrific returns
Apr 07 11:19:03 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: what do you think of torbroker?
Apr 07 11:19:18 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is asleep non?
Apr 07 11:19:20 <MJR__>	taub: it would have performed the best so far...
Apr 07 11:19:46 <MJR__>	S&P, Dow, etc all time highs
Apr 07 11:20:09 <thestringpuller>	MJR__: stop speculating provide value to the community
Apr 07 11:20:11 <taub>	so you mean that would be the best buy and hold strategy
Apr 07 11:20:17 <MJR__>	yes
Apr 07 11:20:24 <MJR__>	thestringpuller: im not speculating
Apr 07 11:20:37 <taub>	i think he was being saracstic (i hope)
Apr 07 11:20:47 <MJR__>	w/e
Apr 07 11:21:06 <MJR__>	im saying but and hold is a great way to preserve and grow wealth
Apr 07 11:21:09 <thestringpuller>	taub: the best startegy is to write options at the beginning of the month that are safe, then at the end of the month buy options if there is a big move
Apr 07 11:21:14 <MJR__>	ugh *buy
Apr 07 11:21:42 <thestringpuller>	diversify yo bonds
Apr 07 11:21:44 <taub>	writing options is very expensive :)
Apr 07 11:21:47 <MJR__>	hehehe
Apr 07 11:21:54 <MJR__>	too expensive IMO
Apr 07 11:21:56 <thestringpuller>	not really
Apr 07 11:22:05 <MJR__>	collateral requirements
Apr 07 11:22:11 <MJR__>	low ROI
Apr 07 11:22:13 <thestringpuller>	again not really
Apr 07 11:22:16 <MJR__>	vs buying
Apr 07 11:22:24 <thestringpuller>	not really lol
Apr 07 11:22:33 <MJR__>	all I've done is but calls
Apr 07 11:22:38 <MJR__>	so far so good
Apr 07 11:22:54 <MJR__>	fuck my phone! buy buy buy!
Apr 07 11:22:54 <thestringpuller>	i can make 1btc on 6 coins from writing
Apr 07 11:23:09 <thestringpuller>	at beginning of mobth
Apr 07 11:23:15 <MJR__>	vs making 5 coins on 1 with buying?
Apr 07 11:23:31 <thestringpuller>	not at the beginning of the month
Apr 07 11:23:44 <thestringpuller>	time decay doesnt kick in until the 15th
Apr 07 11:23:57 <MJR__>	well, I think I got 41 calls, not sure when, but I exercised at 71
Apr 07 11:24:28 <thestringpuller>	that must have been last month
Apr 07 11:24:29 <MJR__>	I like to leave bids out for calls at a price I think makes sense, get filled cuz of volatility
Apr 07 11:24:36 <MJR__>	yep
Apr 07 11:24:53 <MJR__>	month before I had calls in the 20's I think?
Apr 07 11:25:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.39 = 4.29 BTC [+]
Apr 07 11:25:12 <thestringpuller>	yea last month price diverged from 24hprc 7 days before expiry so options were hella cheap
Apr 07 11:25:22 <MJR__>	yep
Apr 07 11:25:33 <MJR__>	but I didn't hold like I should have
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Apr 07 11:25:40 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder went balls deep at C75
Apr 07 11:25:51 *	MJR__ exercised at 71...could have exercised at 91+
Apr 07 11:26:13 <MJR__>	didn't follow my own advice and got "burned"
Apr 07 11:26:30 <thestringpuller>	i think that made 250% but only because it was so close to expiration
Apr 07 11:26:37 <MJR__>	yeah
Apr 07 11:26:53 <MJR__>	also I couldn't get options far enough out of the money
Apr 07 11:27:06 <MJR__>	due to $75 strike limit
Apr 07 11:27:12 <thestringpuller>	timing the market is bad which is why writing options at the beginning of the month hedges if the price is stable
Apr 07 11:27:19 <MJR__>	true
Apr 07 11:27:26 <MJR__>	100% agree
Apr 07 11:27:36 <MJR__>	just don't like tying up the capital
Apr 07 11:27:46 <saulimus>	I know nothing of options, but are they that much more profitable than simply buying/selling USD/BTC directly?
Apr 07 11:27:49 <thestringpuller>	yea but what else would you use it foe?
Apr 07 11:27:56 <saulimus>	are they more risky?
Apr 07 11:28:00 <MJR__>	buying calls lol
Apr 07 11:28:09 <thestringpuller>	saulimus: they are more risky
Apr 07 11:28:20 <saulimus>	so what's the advantage?
Apr 07 11:28:21 <MJR__>	saulimus: they are derivatives, more risky greater possible returns
Apr 07 11:28:24 <thestringpuller>	saulimus: they depens on huge swings in price
Apr 07 11:28:39 <MJR__>	many strategies possible
Apr 07 11:28:40 <thestringpuller>	saulimus: they provide more leverage on your "bet"
Apr 07 11:28:46 <thestringpuller>	example
Apr 07 11:28:52 <MJR__>	short straddle means I want price to stay steady
Apr 07 11:29:13 <thestringpuller>	last week options at 75 went for .06 a contract
Apr 07 11:29:25 <thestringpuller>	break even point was thus 81 usd
Apr 07 11:29:27 <taub>	yea, they provide leverage, and there are advanced option strategies like making money as long as price moves somewhere (up or down)
Apr 07 11:29:28 <MJR__>	calls?
Apr 07 11:29:31 <thestringpuller>	price shot up to 91
Apr 07 11:30:13 <thestringpuller>	for every call you own you get 100% additional leverage as the peice rises
Apr 07 11:30:18 <MJR__>	taub: yeah long straddle is my fave on earnings day
Apr 07 11:30:34 <thestringpuller>	straddles are for last resort
Apr 07 11:30:52 <thestringpuller>	for people who make bad put bets like Bugpowder
Apr 07 11:30:56 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 07 11:30:58 <MJR__>	great for earnings...aapl and Netflix, you would have KILLED it last month
Apr 07 11:31:13 <MJR__>	but in BTC way too expensive
Apr 07 11:31:22 <thestringpuller>	i did puts on aapl in oct
Apr 07 11:31:32 <thestringpuller>	then exited the market
Apr 07 11:31:36 <MJR__>	nice
Apr 07 11:31:40 <taub>	do option prices go up on expected volatility MJR__ ?
Apr 07 11:31:42 <taub>	in real markets
Apr 07 11:31:46 <thestringpuller>	now I am doing strictly btc
Apr 07 11:32:02 <thestringpuller>	taub: depends on the underwriter
Apr 07 11:32:10 <MJR__>	taub: they price volatility into it in black scholes
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Apr 07 11:32:21 <thestringpuller>	merill lynch may charge more than other etrade etc erx
Apr 07 11:32:23 <MJR__>	which is what most use
Apr 07 11:32:28 <taub>	yea
Apr 07 11:32:36 <taub>	but where they get that volatility from :)
Apr 07 11:32:41 <taub>	probably use a bunch of methods
Apr 07 11:32:47 <MJR__>	that can also be based on what numbers they pick for expected volatility
Apr 07 11:32:48 <taub>	historical as well as trying to predict it
Apr 07 11:33:00 <MJR__>	exactly in other words crap shoot
Apr 07 11:33:01 <thestringpuller>	you take a duration like 10m or 1h or 7d and do high - low
Apr 07 11:33:26 <thestringpuller>	then put that into b-s formula and out pops a volatility greek
Apr 07 11:33:32 <MJR__>	yep
Apr 07 11:33:51 <thestringpuller>	i was excited this weekend at price stability
Apr 07 11:34:01 <thestringpuller>	but looks like n00bs are rallying again
Apr 07 11:34:06 <MJR__>	I think bitcoin is so volatile, that you could have a second order derivative of its volatility (fun)
Apr 07 11:34:08 <taub>	btc brings the finance geeks together
Apr 07 11:34:14 <MJR__>	yep
Apr 07 11:34:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00285 = 0.0855 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:34:18 <thestringpuller>	btc is educational
Apr 07 11:34:23 <thestringpuller>	for sure
Apr 07 11:34:30 <MJR__>	very, that's one of my fave things about it
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Apr 07 11:34:35 <thestringpuller>	but soon it wont be a toy anymore
Apr 07 11:34:53 <MJR__>	words of 2013: fiat, bitcoin, inflation, deflation
Apr 07 11:34:55 <thestringpuller>	second we hit 1k the world's billionaires will enter the game
Apr 07 11:35:09 <MJR__>	they are starting now (some)
Apr 07 11:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__  i have no idea.
Apr 07 11:35:34 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: did you read about it?
Apr 07 11:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	it made it in the summaries yest or w/e
Apr 07 11:36:14 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 158
Apr 07 11:36:17 <gribble>	There are currently 347.35852 bitcoins demanded at or over 158.0 USD, worth 54924.5144862 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0049 seconds
Apr 07 11:36:31 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 160
Apr 07 11:36:31 <gribble>	There are currently 1059.539 bitcoins offered at or under 160.0 USD, worth 168977.500895 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.9814 seconds
Apr 07 11:36:41 <MJR__>	my main issue is that it is not "holdable", in that you must rely on govt to back up your property rights, while flaunting their regulation
Apr 07 11:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ looky here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=168992.msg1762685#msg1762685
Apr 07 11:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	same principle applies.
Apr 07 11:37:18 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Apr 07 11:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	unknown party offering to steal your money ?
Apr 07 11:37:20 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.82000000 / 1.85673684 / 1.90000000 (19 shares, 35.27800000 BTC), 7D: 1.82000000 / 1.95105351 / 2.06000000 (114 shares, 222.42010000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.8417252 / 2.08000000 (706 shares, 1300.25799220 BTC)
Apr 07 11:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	pass.
Apr 07 11:38:55 <MJR__>	full disclosure: you are a confidence man
Apr 07 11:39:34 <taub>	i'm sure he'll manage the coins, he just wont send them back
Apr 07 11:39:53 *	MJR__ thought he was only peddling "advice"
Apr 07 11:40:07 <MJR__>	not actually requesting transfer
Apr 07 11:40:21 <taub>	Oh i see
Apr 07 11:40:30 <MJR__>	anyway, tor broker is completely different
Apr 07 11:41:04 <MJR__>	it's a brokerage account/ exchange with accounts in BTC allowing you to buy US equities
Apr 07 11:41:20 <MJR__>	AAPL, BAC etc
Apr 07 11:41:31 <MJR__>	Silk Road for Wall Street
Apr 07 11:41:54 <MJR__>	problem is, SR can deliver physically, not sure it TB can
Apr 07 11:42:14 <MJR__>	*if
Apr 07 11:42:28 <Bugpowder>	The best 'sounding board' for bitcoin investments is this channel…
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Apr 07 11:42:40 <taub>	seems uselss except for tax evasion
Apr 07 11:43:01 <MJR__>	Bugpowder: true
Apr 07 11:43:17 <MJR__>	well...lots of regulation on the stock market
Apr 07 11:43:27 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: you can be the chairman of calls
Apr 07 11:43:33 <MJR__>	cutting off access to some
Apr 07 11:43:41 <taub>	depends where you live I guess, for example i think spread betting is still tax free in the uk
Apr 07 11:44:16 <MJR__>	that's a CFD?
Apr 07 11:44:26 <MJR__>	those are not allowed in US
Apr 07 11:44:31 <MJR__>	USSA
Apr 07 11:44:43 <taub>	yea and you have that daytrading limit right
Apr 07 11:44:46 <taub>	wtf
Apr 07 11:44:53 <taub>	such nonesense
Apr 07 11:45:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7511 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:45:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ completely different ?
Apr 07 11:46:54 <mircea_popescu>	how is it completely different. it works on  the premise "i'm nobody give me dough".
Apr 07 11:46:58 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: are we talking about the same thing?
Apr 07 11:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	i fail to see any difference.
Apr 07 11:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	well i think so. how we check ?
Apr 07 11:47:27 <MJR__>	torbroker: buy and sell equities using accounts denominated in bitcoin
Apr 07 11:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 07 11:47:34 <jurov>	MJR__ the second order derivative of btc volatility does exist
Apr 07 11:47:49 <jurov>	it's MPBPT options on bitfunder
Apr 07 11:47:54 <MJR__>	that guy: Skype chat and I'll give you financial advice
Apr 07 11:48:07 <jurov>	i don't say they are actually usable or not, tho
Apr 07 11:48:15 <MJR__>	ah ok thanks jurov
Apr 07 11:48:24 <mircea_popescu>	so what difference do you see ?
Apr 07 11:48:43 <MJR__>	that guy did not request transfer of bitcoin in public
Apr 07 11:48:59 <MJR__>	whether that was a private thing, who can now
Apr 07 11:49:04 <MJR__>	know*
Apr 07 11:49:05 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 07 11:49:11 <mircea_popescu>	seems very slight.
Apr 07 11:49:18 <MJR__>	so he didn't say "give me money"
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Apr 07 11:50:01 <MJR__>	torbroker is saying want to sell your aapl stock for BTC? we can arrange a place for buyers and sellers to meet
Apr 07 11:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	so i can currently take a fiart position in any stock, fund, whatever, by calling my browser.
Apr 07 11:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	broker lol
Apr 07 11:50:25 <mircea_popescu>	yet i am going to send valuable btc to some anon noob.
Apr 07 11:50:26 <MJR__>	ACAT it to another account I guess
Apr 07 11:50:43 <MJR__>	escrow the transaction
Apr 07 11:50:56 <MJR__>	once stock position is delivered, release BTC
Apr 07 11:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00065754 = 10.4549 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 07 11:51:21 <MJR__>	not even in the same arena of finance...
Apr 07 11:51:26 <ThickAsThieves>	seems dumb to buy wall set stock with btc
Apr 07 11:51:29 <ThickAsThieves>	st
Apr 07 11:51:32 <mircea_popescu>	and then two years down the road be served with tax fraud, money laundering and rico conspiracy
Apr 07 11:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	on the confession of the escrow.
Apr 07 11:51:54 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: anonymous on tor network with BTC
Apr 07 11:52:05 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: have to research more
Apr 07 11:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	the stock you deliver is not anonymous.
Apr 07 11:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	dja understand that part ?
Apr 07 11:52:18 <MJR__>	but can't be tied to transaction
Apr 07 11:52:26 <mircea_popescu>	it will be tied to something.
Apr 07 11:52:44 <MJR__>	I can send my stock to whatever account I want iirc
Apr 07 11:52:49 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
Apr 07 11:52:53 <MJR__>	as long as its not restricted
Apr 07 11:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	and then escrow confesses and you get charged.
Apr 07 11:53:06 <thestringpuller>	breaking news USD was just hacked: http://www.naijatrends.com/page_images/989731796_1347604230.jpg
Apr 07 11:53:08 <MJR__>	I believe that's the point of tor...
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Apr 07 11:53:25 <MJR__>	SR can confess to your escrow
Apr 07 11:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	but escrow must be able to verify transaction dood.
Apr 07 11:53:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00285 = 0.0143 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:53:41 <mircea_popescu>	how does escrow know who to release to ?
Apr 07 11:53:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol thestringpuller
Apr 07 11:54:03 <MJR__>	I was saying that stock is directly transferred
Apr 07 11:54:14 <MJR__>	escrow is for BTC
Apr 07 11:54:19 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 07 11:54:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 159.00001, Best ask: 159.06500, Bid-ask spread: 0.06499, Last trade: 159.06500, 24 hour volume: 38316.07677332, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.50000, 24 hour vwap: 149.08608
Apr 07 11:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ escrow is for btc ?!
Apr 07 11:54:51 <jurov>	bitcoinity is back
Apr 07 11:55:00 <MJR__>	but don't have all the details, long story short, a guy giving away advice for free and a black market for wall st are not related in any way
Apr 07 11:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	let's play this out cause apparently it's hard. A has 100 AAPL. B has 100 BTC. X is escrow.
Apr 07 11:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	A claims he's delivered 100 AAPL. B claims he never got it.
Apr 07 11:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	what does X do ?
Apr 07 11:55:40 <MJR__>	hold on
Apr 07 11:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	there's nothing he can do. if he has a means to actually verify tx then it's not anon.
Apr 07 11:55:56 <mircea_popescu>	if it is anon then he can't verify. end of story.
Apr 07 11:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	and without viable escrow, the deal simply is, "i ar anon, send monyz plz thx"
Apr 07 11:56:24 <mircea_popescu>	which makes both the exact same thing, sobletters on the interwebs.
Apr 07 11:57:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.095 = 0.475 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:57:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [+]
Apr 07 11:57:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:57:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:57:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1004 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:57:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Apr 07 11:58:18 <MJR__>	one asking for money to be sent the other isn't
Apr 07 11:58:33 <MJR__>	guess it comes down to how broad you want to paint the strokes
Apr 07 11:58:42 <MJR__>	two humans talking, same thing
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Apr 07 11:59:11 <MJR__>	I don't think it had to be anon to the parties involved
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Apr 07 11:59:24 <MJR__>	just anon to the market outside those two parties
Apr 07 11:59:52 <MJR__>	lets say I had 100 shares of aapl, but want bitcoin...
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Apr 07 12:00:06 <jurov>	MJR__: but the irl stock have to be on some irl account, not somewhere anonymously in the air
Apr 07 12:00:11 <gesell>	question, I would like to replicate some of dooglus work on monitoring Sdice... are the BitcoinArmory scripts updated to work with the new chain structure ?
Apr 07 12:00:25 <MJR__>	jurov: I agree
Apr 07 12:00:27 <gesell>	i mean the new files for bitcoin-qt (the fact that the full old chain isnt there anymore)
Apr 07 12:00:35 <jurov>	;;ticker
Apr 07 12:00:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 159.98500, Best ask: 160.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01500, Last trade: 160.00000, 24 hour volume: 38378.01921193, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.67001, 24 hour vwap: 149.13329
Apr 07 12:00:42 <MJR__>	it would be at DTC
Apr 07 12:01:11 <MJR__>	lemme do more research before I speculate
Apr 07 12:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	gesell the script he;'s running is public.
Apr 07 12:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	ask him, he'll tell you
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Apr 07 12:02:38 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ the issue are not the parties themselves, but the escrow. that's the leak here.
Apr 07 12:03:08 <cccjd>	Hello
Apr 07 12:03:14 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: thanks. will look deaper
Apr 07 12:03:22 <mircea_popescu>	hi.
Apr 07 12:03:30 <jurov>	cccjd: hi
Apr 07 12:03:34 <cccjd>	Anyone wanna trade BTC-E to PayPal
Apr 07 12:03:53 <jurov>	cccjd: next door #bitcoin-otc, please
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Apr 07 12:04:12 <gesell>	;;ticker
Apr 07 12:04:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 159.99010, Best ask: 160.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00990, Last trade: 160.00000, 24 hour volume: 38378.01921193, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.67001, 24 hour vwap: 149.13329
Apr 07 12:04:54 <gesell>	;;ticker
Apr 07 12:04:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 160.00000, Best ask: 161.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 160.00000, 24 hour volume: 38378.01921193, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.67001, 24 hour vwap: 149.13329
Apr 07 12:05:13 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: not only escrow is the difference. if such scheme was done for mpex stocks, there isn't that legal liability
Apr 07 12:05:29 <gesell>	reeeally? as if bank transfers all game in on the weekend?
Apr 07 12:05:35 <gesell>	s/game/came
Apr 07 12:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	well that's because escrow could verify that a push was made.
Apr 07 12:06:01 <jurov>	gesell no, the ask side is very weak
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Apr 07 12:07:21 <jurov>	mircea_popescu ah yes that's a point. it's hard to do irl without revealing identity to escrow
Apr 07 12:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	and once you do, they can just go and testify.
Apr 07 12:07:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.776 BTC [+]
Apr 07 12:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	so escrow is a nonstarter there.
Apr 07 12:08:43 <MJR__>	aha...they hold your positions
Apr 07 12:09:04 <MJR__>	hence brokerage...similar to coinbr
Apr 07 12:09:19 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ no, not similar. very very dissimilar.
Apr 07 12:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	in that coinbr is run by a known and trusted member
Apr 07 12:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	and this torbroker scam is not present here.
Apr 07 12:09:43 <MJR__>	I have s.dice, do you see my position on mpex?
Apr 07 12:10:08 <MJR__>	well, they have asked to put 1000btc into a trust that shows they have backing
Apr 07 12:10:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.777 BTC [+]
Apr 07 12:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	that does not show anything.
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Apr 07 12:10:23 <mircea_popescu>	there's a process to obtain a bitcoin financial license.
Apr 07 12:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	they aren't following it.
Apr 07 12:10:26 <jurov>	MJR__: you can push to escrow and show receipt
Apr 07 12:10:54 <jurov>	lol license.. can i have a licensed badge?
Apr 07 12:10:59 <MJR__>	I meant that afaik mpex sees your account (gpg key)
Apr 07 12:11:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.777 = 1.554 BTC [+]
Apr 07 12:11:14 <MJR__>	they don't see mine cuz I don't have one
Apr 07 12:11:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating jurov
Apr 07 12:11:19 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User jurov, rated since Fri Jan 20 16:16:32 2012. Cumulative rating 14, from 16 total ratings. Received ratings: 15 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 10 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jurov
Apr 07 12:11:30 <MJR__>	obviously it's based on trust
Apr 07 12:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	well ya. so random noob showing up on forum and proposing to "advise your wealth" or to "pls halp me r spanish mother of two" or to "supersikrit tor broker of irl securities"
Apr 07 12:12:08 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 12:12:08 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much all boils down to the same thing.
Apr 07 12:12:08 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 75.580385 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.1514622453 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 07 12:12:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 07 12:12:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 161.60000, Best ask: 162.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 162.00000, 24 hour volume: 38378.01921193, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.67001, 24 hour vwap: 149.13329
Apr 07 12:12:19 <MJR__>	if you say so
Apr 07 12:12:24 <MJR__>	I don't agree
Apr 07 12:12:25 <thestringpuller>	all time highs
Apr 07 12:12:26 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 07 12:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	i say and sign underneath.
Apr 07 12:12:47 <MJR__>	there aims are not even remotely similar
Apr 07 12:12:53 <MJR__>	*their
Apr 07 12:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	since when do we care what noobs *say* ?
Apr 07 12:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	talk is cheap, anyone can say anything.
Apr 07 12:13:26 <MJR__>	first off, we have no idea who is running this yet...right?
Apr 07 12:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	we do. a scammer.
Apr 07 12:13:41 <thestringpuller>	" talk is cheap, anyone can say anything. " "What you say are just words, what matters is what you do"
Apr 07 12:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile irl : "Blockbuster Lawsuit: Whistleblower Alleges Reuters Releases Data Early to HFT Clients"
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Apr 07 12:15:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: it seems you are opposed to a ratings agency for BTC
Apr 07 12:16:04 <thestringpuller>	that is it would have to be established in conjunction with a pillar already in existence
Apr 07 12:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	there's nobody with the intellectual ability to do such a thing.
Apr 07 12:16:16 <thestringpuller>	not even yourself?
Apr 07 12:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	we have the wot system, it works just fine, why centralise ?
Apr 07 12:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	not even myself.
Apr 07 12:17:02 <thestringpuller>	WoT will be more like WEBS of Trust since what matters is "who you trust" in conjunction with "who they trust"
Apr 07 12:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	exactly. that's precisely what it is.
Apr 07 12:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	and the only way this works.
Apr 07 12:17:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 718 @ 0.000603 = 0.433 BTC [+]
Apr 07 12:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	rating agencies (irl) are notghing but organised shilling.
Apr 07 12:17:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 182 @ 0.000602 = 0.1096 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:17:47 <thestringpuller>	haha
Apr 07 12:17:49 <mircea_popescu>	the US would be C- if they were actually rating.
Apr 07 12:18:08 <thestringpuller>	I thought the US was C-
Apr 07 12:18:51 <mod6>	its like AA+ now i think
Apr 07 12:18:56 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 07 12:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.407 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.406 = 1.218 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:19:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.403 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:19:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.401 = 1.604 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:19:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:19:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:19:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:19:31 <thestringpuller>	!ticker H VTX
Apr 07 12:19:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.40000000 / 0.41804054 / 0.44000000 (37 shares, 15.46749990 BTC), 7D: 0.36000000 / 0.47882522 / 0.61488800 (1057 shares, 506.11825911 BTC), 30D: 0.36000000 / 0.43457139 / 0.79900000 (13364 shares, 5807.61206815 BTC)
Apr 07 12:19:49 <mod6>	but then i guess there's this that says: On September 14, 2012, Egan-Jones cut its rating a third time from AA to AA-, the lowest of what is considered "high grade", as a reaction to QE3.
Apr 07 12:19:50 <mod6>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_credit-rating_downgrade
Apr 07 12:19:54 <mod6>	so clearly some bs.
Apr 07 12:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.resilience.org/stories/2006-12-04/closing-collapse-gap-ussr-was-better-prepared-collapse-us
Apr 07 12:20:05 <mircea_popescu>	this is actually a pretty good read.
Apr 07 12:20:13 <thestringpuller>	mod6 shoudln't you be working?
Apr 07 12:20:19 <thestringpuller>	don't you have some test cases to run?
Apr 07 12:20:23 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 07 12:20:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.777 BTC [+]
Apr 07 12:20:43 <jurov>	he's compiling
Apr 07 12:20:49 <jurov>	or driving lol
Apr 07 12:20:53 <thestringpuller>	XD
Apr 07 12:20:56 <jurov>	= free time
Apr 07 12:21:41 <thestringpuller>	the rally is on
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Apr 07 12:25:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C164T] 10 @ 0.15965531 = 1.5966 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 12:26:13 <thestringpuller>	MPOE bot just made some money...
Apr 07 12:26:24 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 07 12:26:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 104.18044961 / 119.46513967 / 153.12818005 (28218 shares, 11,837.32 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 07 12:27:15 <jurov>	$depth O.USD.C164T
Apr 07 12:27:16 <mpexbot>	jurov: O.USD.C164T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.07139093']
Apr 07 12:27:17 <mpexbot>	jurov: Asks: ['990 @ 0.15965531']
Apr 07 12:27:29 <MJR__>	;;ticker
Apr 07 12:27:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 160.01002, Best ask: 161.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.98998, Last trade: 161.00000, 24 hour volume: 40447.90337002, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 149.81158
Apr 07 12:28:09 <MJR__>	low volume..."rally" is impatient people who don't want to wait till Monday for some depth
Apr 07 12:28:42 <MJR__>	opposite of weekend dip now, interesting trend shift
Apr 07 12:28:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 07 12:28:59 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 8796662.53748 based on data since last change | 8366350.18727 based on data for last three days
Apr 07 12:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/320831586335612928
Apr 07 12:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone wants to put that tweet on the chart timeline...
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Apr 07 12:30:54 <MJR__>	I retweeted that this morning
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Apr 07 12:31:27 <mod6>	i had half a mind to troll that tweet
Apr 07 12:31:36 <mod6>	since you were like bitcon stahp!!
Apr 07 12:31:45 <MJR__>	yeah lol
Apr 07 12:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Apr 07 12:32:58 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you really don't look that old in your pictures...
Apr 07 12:33:02 <thestringpuller>	I feel like you're in your 30's
Apr 07 12:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	i am.
Apr 07 12:33:14 <MJR__>	lol I thought he was
Apr 07 12:33:14 <thestringpuller>	you had me thinking you were like 60
Apr 07 12:33:26 <jurov>	HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Apr 07 12:33:39 <MJR__>	it must be all that "damn kids get off my lawn"
Apr 07 12:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 07 12:34:36 <mircea_popescu>	prolly you thought only old people can have black cock
Apr 07 12:35:19 <jurov>	LONG, BLACK AND DENSELY VEINED
Apr 07 12:35:35 <jurov>	oops capslock
Apr 07 12:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	lmao did drool press caps ?
Apr 07 12:37:18 <MJR__>	By declaring bitcoin illegal because bitcoins provide a way to avoid taxes the government is saying that bitcoin is a great way to avoid paying taxes. It works at transmitting and saving money anonymously. What an endorsement. "Bitcoin works so please don't use it."
Apr 07 12:37:23 <MJR__>	great quote
Apr 07 12:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Apr 07 12:38:54 <MJR__>	Streisand effect
Apr 07 12:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.83 = 9.15 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:40:20 <thestringpuller>	:(
Apr 07 12:40:24 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Apr 07 12:40:26 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.82000000 / 1.84904348 / 1.90000000 (23 shares, 42.52800000 BTC), 7D: 1.82000000 / 1.94542458 / 2.06000000 (118 shares, 229.56010000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.84164275 / 2.08000000 (711 shares, 1309.40799220 BTC)
Apr 07 12:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how many people realise just what a formbidable threat to stability and ultimately survival JIT is for the US.
Apr 07 12:42:21 <thestringpuller>	Just in time compilation?
Apr 07 12:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	the entire economy is run on the jsut in time model.
Apr 07 12:44:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.138 = 0.276 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:44:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.138 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:45:50 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: don't you have to do that when you are leveraged at such a high rate?
Apr 07 12:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	well whether you have to or not, it still makes you vulnerable
Apr 07 12:46:54 <mod6>	;;bids 150
Apr 07 12:46:57 <gribble>	There are currently 3658.0807 bitcoins demanded at or over 150.0 USD, worth 554865.745375 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0104 seconds
Apr 07 12:47:13 <mod6>	not bad
Apr 07 12:49:08 <MJR__>	I agree totally, and although credit and debt will creep into bitcoin more, I think that doing something 100:1 in BTC will seem ridiculous for a long term strategy
Apr 07 12:49:28 <MJR__>	think US banks are around 50:1
Apr 07 12:49:44 <MJR__>	and tor broker holds your position for you
Apr 07 12:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ heh.
Apr 07 12:50:12 <MJR__>	think they have a Cayman Islands brokerage account
Apr 07 12:50:39 <MJR__>	and it seems reasonably certain that they are one of the operators of a minor BTC exchange
Apr 07 12:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	basically they'll take btc and the day net outflow > net inflow they're gone.
Apr 07 12:50:54 <MJR__>	maybe...
Apr 07 12:51:16 <MJR__>	but if everyone had that mentality there's be no gox or mpex...
Apr 07 12:51:25 <MJR__>	correct?
Apr 07 12:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Apr 07 12:52:33 <mircea_popescu>	not unless the guy's name actually is Tor.
Apr 07 12:52:46 <MJR__>	if everyone assumed that tux or you would definitely run off with money...
Apr 07 12:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	but tux is a name.
Apr 07 12:53:01 <mircea_popescu>	"torbroker" is a throwaway forum account.
Apr 07 12:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	there's this post the girl keeps linking the noobs to.
Apr 07 12:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	they say o sure i read it, but persevere.
Apr 07 12:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	and then are never heard from again
Apr 07 12:53:33 <MJR__>	ah, so you think that the fact I know the name "Mircea Popescu" makes me feel safe?
Apr 07 12:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	i don't care how it makes you feel, this isn't about feelings.
Apr 07 12:54:00 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what post is that?
Apr 07 12:54:00 <MJR__>	im saying anyone could disappear
Apr 07 12:54:07 <thestringpuller>	the "So you wanna start a bitcoin business" ?
Apr 07 12:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	there;'s somebody with a track record to judge based on.
Apr 07 12:54:13 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller yeah.
Apr 07 12:54:19 <MJR__>	what was pirates OTC rating?
Apr 07 12:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ this is also a discredited argument. one second
Apr 07 12:54:36 <MJR__>	did he have a forum account?
Apr 07 12:54:43 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: thanks
Apr 07 12:55:02 <jurov>	MJR__: yes he had, but it's not total score that counts
Apr 07 12:55:07 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: if you found the "collapse gap" piece interesting, read Orlov's full length discussion "Post-Soviet Lessons": https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M56LtVzVcYJSMGKm5CV2RcePETqK1BwvF-Pb5AkdTXM/
Apr 07 12:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform it's funny how soviet-patriotic he is hehe.
Apr 07 12:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, he makes little... adjustments.
Apr 07 12:56:28 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: he's more (vaguely) Slavophilic than pro-Soviet.
Apr 07 12:58:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.776 = 1.552 BTC [-]
Apr 07 12:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110861.msg1227871#msg1227871
Apr 07 12:59:11 <mircea_popescu>	see the last coupla paragraphs
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Apr 07 13:01:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P149T] 1000 @ 0.13686145 = 136.8615 BTC [-]
Apr 07 13:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P146T] 1000 @ 0.12462497 = 124.625 BTC [-]
Apr 07 13:01:49 <MJR__>	good post
Apr 07 13:02:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 1000 @ 0.11204236 = 112.0424 BTC [-]
Apr 07 13:02:03 <MJR__>	does not change my original point
Apr 07 13:02:11 <MJR__>	trust must be bootstrapped
Apr 07 13:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 07 13:02:39 <MJR__>	if EVERYONE did not risk trust in mpex, how could it start?
Apr 07 13:02:56 <MJR__>	better phrasing if no one decided to trust it
Apr 07 13:03:10 <mircea_popescu>	nobody did decide to t5rust it
Apr 07 13:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	they were on glbse
Apr 07 13:03:41 <MJR__>	yes...but now you hold the shares in sdice...
Apr 07 13:03:54 <MJR__>	we trust you will pay options out...
Apr 07 13:03:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.777 BTC [+]
Apr 07 13:04:15 <MJR__>	am I missing something? I trust you more or less implicitly in this space
Apr 07 13:04:52 <MJR__>	but, that had to be built over time, which means at some point, someone decided to trust and risk
Apr 07 13:04:58 <mircea_popescu>	yhou are seeing the results of a war
Apr 07 13:05:07 <MJR__>	im aware
Apr 07 13:05:07 <mircea_popescu>	and imagine it is the rtesult of natural evoltyion.
Apr 07 13:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	not so.
Apr 07 13:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	mpex was built by me, and joined by people who only had any trust in btc because i said so.
Apr 07 13:05:29 <mircea_popescu>	the btc people were flocked on glbse.
Apr 07 13:05:32 <MJR__>	not natural evolution
Apr 07 13:05:37 <MJR__>	but go on
Apr 07 13:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	their boat sunk. i won. my people, who are in btc because they trusted me and i trusted btc,
Apr 07 13:05:55 <mircea_popescu>	were left standing.
Apr 07 13:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	the btc investors were left in shambles.
Apr 07 13:06:14 <MJR__>	yes, but that doesn't obviate the need for trust in you
Apr 07 13:06:16 <mircea_popescu>	the story will repeat itself. either you have the power to draw sufficient force from outside
Apr 07 13:06:24 <mircea_popescu>	or else you do what the holders of trust say you must do.
Apr 07 13:06:39 <mircea_popescu>	it obviates the need for me to ASK to be trusted.
Apr 07 13:06:53 <MJR__>	you've proven it, I agree
Apr 07 13:07:02 <MJR__>	looking back it's easy to see
Apr 07 13:07:08 <mircea_popescu>	i simply moved capital (of trust, of fiat, of w/e_) from irl to btc.
Apr 07 13:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	i already had it, tho.
Apr 07 13:07:21 <MJR__>	yes
Apr 07 13:07:21 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 07 13:07:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 156.89999, Best ask: 157.08000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18001, Last trade: 156.89999, 24 hour volume: 45819.40710651, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 150.64715
Apr 07 13:07:38 <MJR__>	so if they have 1000 BTC to start (not a lot)
Apr 07 13:07:52 <MJR__>	and they say we will put this up as collateral
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Apr 07 13:07:59 <jurov>	MJR__: the trust was bootstrapped upon mircea having workable scheme from MPOE
Apr 07 13:08:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.208 = 2.416 BTC [+]
Apr 07 13:08:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00066566 = 4.7928 BTC [+]
Apr 07 13:08:05 <MJR__>	with smickles
Apr 07 13:08:11 <jurov>	*from -> for
Apr 07 13:08:12 <MJR__>	or nanotube
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Apr 07 13:08:20 <MJR__>	or even mpex
Apr 07 13:08:22 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ were you here when we discussed with cads something similar yest ?
Apr 07 13:08:27 <MJR__>	yep
Apr 07 13:08:31 <MJR__>	hence my point
Apr 07 13:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	ok. the problem is tghey are flashing 1k btc. nobody cares.
Apr 07 13:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	if they simultaneously limited investment to no more than that it'd help.
Apr 07 13:08:50 <MJR__>	I care up to 1k BTC
Apr 07 13:08:56 <mircea_popescu>	as it is... it's nothing. any scammer can (and indeed would) do that.
Apr 07 13:09:02 <MJR__>	well that was my obvious point
Apr 07 13:09:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000658 BTC [+]
Apr 07 13:09:20 <MJR__>	I would assume they would only go up to that point
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Apr 07 13:09:26 <MJR__>	maybe that's false
Apr 07 13:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	assume. assume nothing.
Apr 07 13:09:36 <mircea_popescu>	never, ever, assume.
Apr 07 13:09:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000603 BTC [-]
Apr 07 13:10:00 <MJR__>	well, I agree, my point was only can you not trust them up to their reserve
Apr 07 13:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	and jurov has a good sidepoint there : my system made sense. the system whereby you buy fiat stocks in btc makes none.
Apr 07 13:10:08 <MJR__>	and I say yes
Apr 07 13:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	sure you can trust them up to their reserve.
Apr 07 13:10:23 <MJR__>	I fail to see how that doesn't make sense
Apr 07 13:10:23 <mircea_popescu>	you familiar with the shakaru case ?
Apr 07 13:10:28 <MJR__>	no
Apr 07 13:10:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000658 BTC [+]
Apr 07 13:10:39 <mircea_popescu>	[\\\] hey how much did you ever pay back off the shakaru fund ?
Apr 07 13:11:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00309 = 0.0927 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 13:12:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000603 BTC [-]
Apr 07 13:12:34 <MJR__>	what I would say, and I don't want to delve into the relative pros and cons, is that DPR and SR, managed to create a market using trust...this is more similar to that
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Apr 07 13:12:53 <MJR__>	I mean of SR specifically
Apr 07 13:12:58 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think so.
Apr 07 13:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	i can legally and safely buy securities right now.
Apr 07 13:13:16 <MJR__>	you can
Apr 07 13:13:20 <MJR__>	others can't
Apr 07 13:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	i can't legally and safely buy whatever pills the sr kids do
Apr 07 13:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	others that can't also shouldn
Apr 07 13:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	't
Apr 07 13:13:43 <MJR__>	lol, there is where we disagree
Apr 07 13:13:53 <mircea_popescu>	well. whty can't they ?
Apr 07 13:13:55 <MJR__>	I say it's a market
Apr 07 13:13:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.777 BTC [+]
Apr 07 13:14:00 <MJR__>	regulation
Apr 07 13:14:04 <mircea_popescu>	specifically.
Apr 07 13:14:09 <MJR__>	series 7, series 56
Apr 07 13:14:15 <MJR__>	criminal record
Apr 07 13:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	dood, just open an amex acct.
Apr 07 13:14:21 <MJR__>	wrong country
Apr 07 13:14:31 <mircea_popescu>	what, this torbroker dood is a direct broker now.
Apr 07 13:15:02 <MJR__>	whoever they are, they have some etrade account or w/e
Apr 07 13:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 07 13:15:12 <MJR__>	they'll use their access
Apr 07 13:15:24 <MJR__>	to allow others to do anon stock trades
Apr 07 13:15:30 <mircea_popescu>	so the huge counterparty risk they introduce is for the sake of sharing an etrade acct ?! whoa.
Apr 07 13:15:35 <MJR__>	I have inside info
Apr 07 13:15:50 <MJR__>	don't want MY name on this trade
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Apr 07 13:16:27 <MJR__>	or, I want to do this quietly to not spook the market (obviously not now, too small)
Apr 07 13:16:38 <MJR__>	there is value in anon trades
Apr 07 13:16:47 <ChaangNoi>	zup
Apr 07 13:16:50 <mircea_popescu>	so what is normally accomplished by a complex system opf people who make millions in fgees
Apr 07 13:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	is ghoing to be done just as wewll by a kid and his etrade acct.
Apr 07 13:17:03 <ChaangNoi>	feel good to be a gangsta eh?
Apr 07 13:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	which will be flagged in every sec insider trader investigation from now on.
Apr 07 13:17:16 <MJR__>	well, we'll see
Apr 07 13:17:28 <MJR__>	are you a fan of the SEC? im not
Apr 07 13:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	makes no difference, that.
Apr 07 13:17:53 <MJR__>	if you can do as you wish with your $ or BTC
Apr 07 13:18:00 <MJR__>	then im for it
Apr 07 13:18:16 <MJR__>	do you think rules are in place to protect the little guy?
Apr 07 13:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	plenty of rules are in place to protect the stupid little guy.
Apr 07 13:18:38 <MJR__>	maybe a few tokens...
Apr 07 13:18:54 <MJR__>	overall system is designed to benefit the big guy
Apr 07 13:19:56 <mircea_popescu>	in any game of straight no limit poker the larger stash has better odds.
Apr 07 13:19:59 <MJR__>	and...without knowing who is behind this, or what exactly they are doing and how well, I would say that I can picture a scenario where it works
Apr 07 13:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	this is not by design of the game of poker. this is because being bigger means you are better.
Apr 07 13:20:14 <MJR__>	and many where it doesn't
Apr 07 13:20:35 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 165
Apr 07 13:20:38 <gribble>	There are currently 3155.8286 bitcoins offered at or under 165.0 USD, worth 513901.693219 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
Apr 07 13:20:46 <mod6>	so i brewed this cup of coffee an hour ago and forgot about it...
Apr 07 13:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi it corrected.
Apr 07 13:21:05 <ChaangNoi>	it was the weekend dump, finaly
Apr 07 13:21:21 <ChaangNoi>	week however it was
Apr 07 13:21:27 <ChaangNoi>	weak
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Apr 07 13:22:22 <ChaangNoi>	bfl shipped yet?
Apr 07 13:22:35 <MJR__>	so, only point is that a see a scenario where it could work, therefore not a stupid plan, though it may be stupidly implemented and fail
Apr 07 13:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-]
Apr 07 13:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	i think your scenario is livresque.
Apr 07 13:24:45 <MJR__>	lol
Apr 07 13:24:49 <MJR__>	perhaps
Apr 07 13:25:36 <MJR__>	but I think it's been proven that there will be many failures and a few successes
Apr 07 13:25:49 <mircea_popescu>	this is not statistically distributed.
Apr 07 13:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	there are a lot of failures which can be readily identified by the fact they're not successes
Apr 07 13:26:08 <MJR__>	so I wouldn't throw out everything, and miss a success
Apr 07 13:26:14 <mircea_popescu>	and a few successes which are obvious since day one.
Apr 07 13:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	uyou can
Apr 07 13:26:21 <mircea_popescu>	t miss a success.
Apr 07 13:26:27 <MJR__>	which have been obvious?
Apr 07 13:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	all of them. no exceptions.
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Apr 07 13:26:46 <MJR__>	gox was obvious?
Apr 07 13:26:51 <MJR__>	is obvious?
Apr 07 13:27:03 <MJR__>	there is no question of their current success
Apr 07 13:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	so then what part of obvious you have tyrouible with :D
Apr 07 13:27:44 <MJR__>	they suck, I would have written them off
Apr 07 13:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	they suck, sure. but thast's not what we're discussing.
Apr 07 13:28:40 <MJR__>	ok, I don't think their business model looked sustainable
Apr 07 13:28:47 <MJR__>	still don't
Apr 07 13:29:12 <MJR__>	I guess "success" is relative
Apr 07 13:29:22 <mircea_popescu>	being the first to offer exchange services is not sustainable ?
Apr 07 13:29:30 <MJR__>	and dependent on time scale
Apr 07 13:29:35 <mircea_popescu>	their busienss model is fine. their execution inept as all hell, but they have a model.
Apr 07 13:29:47 <MJR__>	Eastman Kodak was successful until they weren't
Apr 07 13:30:09 <MJR__>	as was barings
Apr 07 13:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	we are merely trying to distinguish business from fraud here.
Apr 07 13:30:13 <MJR__>	ok
Apr 07 13:30:16 <MJR__>	fair enough
Apr 07 13:30:33 <MJR__>	I would say that torbroker seems definitely not fraudulent
Apr 07 13:31:11 <MJR__>	if their services are useful , they'll do ok
Apr 07 13:32:04 <MJR__>	we can agree to disagree on that
Apr 07 13:32:22 <MJR__>	but without any evidence of fraud, I can't call them fraudulent
Apr 07 13:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	on what basis do you say that it "seems definitely not fraudulent" ?
Apr 07 13:32:34 <mircea_popescu>	i can.
Apr 07 13:32:46 <mircea_popescu>	without satisfyiong my criteria, they are a fraud.
Apr 07 13:32:47 <MJR__>	I've seen no evidence of fraud
Apr 07 13:32:54 <MJR__>	ah ok
Apr 07 13:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	fraud is evidenced by default.
Apr 07 13:33:04 <MJR__>	everyone is fraudulent by default
Apr 07 13:33:08 <mircea_popescu>	absolutely.
Apr 07 13:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	this is bitcoin. occam's razor.
Apr 07 13:33:29 <MJR__>	true
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Apr 07 13:33:42 <mircea_popescu>	invitation to invest, but neglects to share business plan ? it's a ponzi.
Apr 07 13:33:46 <MJR__>	I guess I distinguish between fraudulent and trustworthy
Apr 07 13:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	not a suspected ponzi, niot a possible ponzi, it is a ponzi i nfact.
Apr 07 13:34:08 <mod6>	(10:30) < MJR__> I would say that torbroker seems definitely not fraudulent << i read about this. sounds great until they scam out like TorWallet
Apr 07 13:34:11 <mod6>	TorWallet got me for like 5 BTC
Apr 07 13:34:13 <MJR__>	hence...all hedge funds are ponzis
Apr 07 13:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	i distinguish too. it's not that they're not trustworthy. it's that they're fraudulent.
Apr 07 13:34:24 <mod6>	that was me just testin the water there, but that was dumb.
Apr 07 13:34:35 <mod6>	thats the only time i've gotten scammed
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Apr 07 13:34:50 <MJR__>	mod6: sorry to hear it
Apr 07 13:35:04 <mod6>	it happens.
Apr 07 13:35:12 <MJR__>	I think we disagree on the fundamental definition of fraud
Apr 07 13:35:20 <MJR__>	so impossible to progress
Apr 07 13:35:26 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 07 13:35:37 <mircea_popescu>	what's your definition ?
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Apr 07 13:36:33 <MJR__>	fraud is intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual
Apr 07 13:36:50 <MJR__>	intentional being the key word
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Apr 07 13:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	absolutely.
Apr 07 13:37:28 <mircea_popescu>	torbroker misrepresenting itself as a broker.
Apr 07 13:37:30 <mircea_popescu>	that's it.
Apr 07 13:38:01 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 07 13:38:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 155.50000, Best ask: 156.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 156.00000, 24 hour volume: 49176.84450064, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 151.19257
Apr 07 13:38:12 <bgupta>	new ath..
Apr 07 13:38:17 <MJR__>	actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea
Apr 07 13:38:45 <mircea_popescu>	tyes well. man's thoughts can not be on trial since the devil himself doesn't know what man thinks.
Apr 07 13:38:47 <MJR__>	no culpability without malintent
Apr 07 13:38:57 *	MJR__ agreed
Apr 07 13:39:05 <mircea_popescu>	their deception is intentional.
Apr 07 13:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	that it intends to harm or it merely intends to deceive is irrelevant.
Apr 07 13:39:17 <MJR__>	but I don't think their intent is to deceive for their own benefit
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Apr 07 13:39:31 <MJR__>	or to deceive at all
Apr 07 13:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	but in fact they do deceive, and it is to their benefit.
Apr 07 13:39:35 <MJR__>	they say:
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Apr 07 13:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean at all ? they claim to be a btc business. they're not.
Apr 07 13:40:09 <MJR__>	Pick a security to long or short. At the next market opening, we will mirror your position on the real market.
Apr 07 13:40:30 <MJR__>	Pick a security to long or short. At the next market opening, we will mirror your position...
Apr 07 13:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ does this thing purport to be a bitcoin busienss ?
Apr 07 13:40:47 <MJR__>	no
Apr 07 13:40:52 <MJR__>	not that I know of
Apr 07 13:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	...
Apr 07 13:40:58 <MJR__>	they accept bitcoins
Apr 07 13:40:59 <mircea_popescu>	then why are we discussing it.
Apr 07 13:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	aha.
Apr 07 13:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	that counts.
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Apr 07 13:41:27 <MJR__>	so every store that accepts dollars is a dollar business?
Apr 07 13:41:32 <mircea_popescu>	yep.
Apr 07 13:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	ask the us govt.
Apr 07 13:41:52 <MJR__>	in the business of dollars? or using dollars to transact
Apr 07 13:41:59 <MJR__>	I suppose
Apr 07 13:42:09 <mircea_popescu>	it's a dollars busines. if it fails to follow the dollar rules it will be a criminal operation.
Apr 07 13:42:14 <mircea_popescu>	pretty clear cut.
Apr 07 13:42:15 <MJR__>	anyone who "brokers" will be in two different businesses
Apr 07 13:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	sucks for them i guess.
Apr 07 13:42:25 <MJR__>	like SR
Apr 07 13:42:32 <MJR__>	no question about legality
Apr 07 13:43:14 <MJR__>	I don't define my morals by the law, and could care less what they decide...as long as it doesn't affect me
Apr 07 13:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	point still remains. dollar business thart fails to follow dollar rules => criominal enterprise.
Apr 07 13:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	btc business that fails to fgollow btc rules => fraudulent operation aka scam.
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Apr 07 13:43:50 <MJR__>	with anonymity, I could care less whether they rule it "homosexual" or "illegal" or "whatever"
Apr 07 13:44:02 <MJR__>	who enforces BTC rules?
Apr 07 13:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	btc users.
Apr 07 13:44:29 <MJR__>	what's the applicable rule they are breaking?
Apr 07 13:44:47 <mircea_popescu>	not in the wot. not known to actual btc businesspeople.
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Apr 07 13:45:06 <MJR__>	is DPR in the WoT? I actually don't know
Apr 07 13:45:16 <mircea_popescu>	not followed mpoe-pr's guide for aspiring noobies.
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Apr 07 13:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	what's dpr ?
Apr 07 13:45:36 <MJR__>	dread pirate Roberts
Apr 07 13:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Apr 07 13:45:46 <MJR__>	SR operator
Apr 07 13:46:05 <mod6>	^^^
Apr 07 13:46:05 <MJR__>	well, he operates a trustworthy business apparently
Apr 07 13:46:13 <mircea_popescu>	niot really.
Apr 07 13:46:20 <MJR__>	been around far longer than most
Apr 07 13:46:27 <MJR__>	and no one complains
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Apr 07 13:46:31 <mircea_popescu>	this is true.
Apr 07 13:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	no one trusts it much, either.
Apr 07 13:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	kinda the nature of that beast, like the outhouse.
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Apr 07 13:47:12 <MJR__>	so...I see scenarios where people provide an honest service, and those who participate, do
Apr 07 13:47:25 <MJR__>	hey, I agree
Apr 07 13:47:39 <MJR__>	and there is a huge difference between legal and illegal
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Apr 07 13:48:51 <mircea_popescu>	im sure whoever uses sr trusts the pirate guy.
Apr 07 13:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	they
Apr 07 13:49:06 <MJR__>	only point was its possible (as of the time of this post) to run an illegal business honestly, and anonymously
Apr 07 13:49:08 <mircea_popescu>	're the periphery of btc, if indeed part of it at all. seems mostly accidental and well... who cares.
Apr 07 13:49:25 <MJR__>	are they a bitcoin business?
Apr 07 13:49:35 <mircea_popescu>	not in the sense we're discussing here.
Apr 07 13:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	they're not taking loans, not selling equity, etc.
Apr 07 13:49:59 <MJR__>	lol, but they accept bitcoins, torbroker has not mentioned equity or loans
Apr 07 13:50:09 <MJR__>	in BTC
Apr 07 13:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ torbroker has carefully avoiding making plain the fact that all customer positions are loans to it.
Apr 07 13:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	diofferent kettle of fish.
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Apr 07 13:50:40 <MJR__>	simply the coinsforpizza of stock
Apr 07 13:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Apr 07 13:50:49 <MJR__>	we can agree to disagree
Apr 07 13:51:03 <mircea_popescu>	well we can, but not when the facts are clearly on one side.
Apr 07 13:51:12 <MJR__>	wait how?
Apr 07 13:51:17 <ThickAsThieves>	this conversation is really going places
Apr 07 13:51:26 <MJR__>	you are not loaning your position to them
Apr 07 13:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	this torbroker thing takes your 10 btc, buys stocks for them which it holds.
Apr 07 13:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	that's not coinforpizza, that's savings and loans.
Apr 07 13:51:37 <MJR__>	like any broker on earth
Apr 07 13:51:42 <mircea_popescu>	mno.
Apr 07 13:51:48 <MJR__>	like mpex does
Apr 07 13:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 07 13:51:52 <MJR__>	or coinbr
Apr 07 13:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	sure/
Apr 07 13:52:00 <MJR__>	ok
Apr 07 13:52:06 <MJR__>	so no prob so far?
Apr 07 13:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	absolutely a huge problem
Apr 07 13:52:17 <jurov>	nah, coinbr is homosexual scam
Apr 07 13:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	torbroker is a scam trying to abuse a legitimate model./
Apr 07 13:52:25 <MJR__>	jurov: hahaha
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Apr 07 13:53:05 <MJR__>	again, scam would be using broker model, running off with positions and coins
Apr 07 13:53:17 <MJR__>	haven't done that...yet
Apr 07 13:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	look. this is like a teenager declaring themselves a surgeon.
Apr 07 13:53:28 <mircea_popescu>	never went to doctor school
Apr 07 13:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't have the doctor diploma
Apr 07 13:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	but he
Apr 07 13:53:37 <mircea_popescu>	's "just like surgeons"
Apr 07 13:53:39 <MJR__>	like every fucking other BTC business out there
Apr 07 13:53:40 <mircea_popescu>	well... no. not at all.
Apr 07 13:53:43 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Apr 07 13:53:50 <jurov>	MJR__ i don't get it too. what information do you have that convinced you it's certainly legit?
Apr 07 13:53:52 <mircea_popescu>	this equivocation is pretty much why it's a scam.
Apr 07 13:53:52 <MJR__>	except mpex of course
Apr 07 13:54:21 <MJR__>	jurov: not sure either way, agnostic. point being, innocent until proven guilty
Apr 07 13:54:30 <mircea_popescu>	that's not workable in btc.
Apr 07 13:54:34 <jurov>	^agree
Apr 07 13:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	but i think as you get burned you'll learn for yourself.
Apr 07 13:54:50 <MJR__>	I never said I'd use them
Apr 07 13:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	btc has a learning curve even if it doesn't feel like it does.
Apr 07 13:55:05 <MJR__>	just said that I can see a scenario where they deliver as promised
Apr 07 13:55:08 <mircea_popescu>	this is how people like kludge ended up burned. they felt like they knew.
Apr 07 13:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't say you'd get burned with this specific one
Apr 07 13:55:35 <mircea_popescu>	just, as you get burned, you'll see the presumption of guilt is the correct approach.
Apr 07 13:55:44 <MJR__>	im saying risk what you can afford to lose
Apr 07 13:55:50 <MJR__>	build up trust
Apr 07 13:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	why risk ?
Apr 07 13:55:59 <MJR__>	ok...
Apr 07 13:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	well ?
Apr 07 13:56:19 <jurov>	just play sd
Apr 07 13:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	noriskthere tm
Apr 07 13:56:46 <MJR__>	what is to actually physically stop anyone from taking their coins dumping on mt gox and retiring to a beach town in the Caribbean
Apr 07 13:57:12 <MJR__>	what can actually guarantee me that mpex cannot do that
Apr 07 13:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	nothing.
Apr 07 13:57:49 <MJR__>	I see nothing that provides me an FDIC guarantee on an account
Apr 07 13:57:52 <MJR__>	ok
Apr 07 13:57:54 <mod6>	nothing, really.  if mircea_popescu run's i guess we're screwed, but we can rate him down in the WoT forever.
Apr 07 13:57:56 <MJR__>	we agree
Apr 07 13:58:04 <mod6>	*runs
Apr 07 13:58:10 <MJR__>	and im sure he could cry about on the beach
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Apr 07 13:58:31 <MJR__>	like pirate is doing now
Apr 07 13:58:37 <mod6>	but he's here, and he says he wont, and he says he's interested in making this new econ work, not trying to hose it over.
Apr 07 13:58:38 <MJR__>	oh no the BTC people don't like me
Apr 07 13:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	that guy is definitely coming back.
Apr 07 13:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	he sold under 10 im sure.
Apr 07 13:58:55 <MJR__>	and I TRUST him
Apr 07 13:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	it's KILLIONG HIM now
Apr 07 13:59:01 <MJR__>	lol I agree
Apr 07 13:59:10 <MJR__>	I trust mircea_popescu
Apr 07 13:59:10 <mod6>	lol especially since he had like 500k BTC
Apr 07 13:59:12 <mod6>	what an idiot
Apr 07 13:59:13 <MJR__>	and jurov
Apr 07 13:59:17 <jurov>	MJR__: at least you have us here for months, can make some judgememnt about our character
Apr 07 13:59:18 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 i dfon
Apr 07 13:59:23 <mircea_popescu>	't think that much but still . yeah.
Apr 07 13:59:27 <jurov>	not that torbroker kid
Apr 07 13:59:33 <MJR__>	well...
Apr 07 13:59:43 <MJR__>	Mary Jo is no joke
Apr 07 13:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__ let's try a different approach, maybe sex works better.
Apr 07 13:59:55 <MJR__>	lol
Apr 07 14:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	there's a girl that says she looks good, but will never pose naked.
Apr 07 14:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	you believe girls look good till proven otherwise ?
Apr 07 14:00:09 <MJR__>	ok
Apr 07 14:00:33 <mircea_popescu>	is this ogre a stunner just because she's carefully avoiding the flash ?
Apr 07 14:00:38 <MJR__>	well...not sure the level of dumbness built into this
Apr 07 14:01:03 <MJR__>	but I can usually tell whether a girl will be gross or hot even with a raincoat on
Apr 07 14:01:36 <jurov>	good for ya. consider starting a rating agency for yourself then.
Apr 07 14:01:37 <MJR__>	I highly doubt the girl I assumed to be 110 was actually 300
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Apr 07 14:02:00 <MJR__>	but if we are saying empiricism is key and not rationality...
Apr 07 14:02:04 <MJR__>	sure
Apr 07 14:02:13 <MJR__>	I can't trust her till I see her naked
Apr 07 14:02:35 <MJR__>	(though why I want to try, my motives, make no sense)
Apr 07 14:03:33 <MJR__>	but I see your point, my point is that she may not want her dad knowing she is showing her juicy bits to everyone
Apr 07 14:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	then she's not old enough to be here.
Apr 07 14:03:50 <MJR__>	does that make her not hot?
Apr 07 14:03:54 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 07 14:03:56 <MJR__>	the dad is the SEC
Apr 07 14:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	i dun care who her dad is.
Apr 07 14:04:09 <MJR__>	lol
Apr 07 14:04:10 <mircea_popescu>	if she cares what he thinks she's not tall enough to ride.
Apr 07 14:04:39 <jurov>	also, not taking into consideration all the other no-no flags, that broker is targeting people who think divesting BTC into stocks is a good idea
Apr 07 14:04:40 <MJR__>	so Americans who care about legal ramifications should avoid shady areas of bitcoin, we agree
Apr 07 14:04:49 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 07 14:04:54 <jurov>	not sure how to make sexual analogy for it
Apr 07 14:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov butts
Apr 07 14:05:01 <MJR__>	jurov: lol
Apr 07 14:05:11 <MJR__>	I love these discussions
Apr 07 14:05:20 <MJR__>	for moments like those
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Apr 07 14:06:19 <MJR__>	im saying, is it useful: to some yes, is it possible: yes, is anonymity necessary in this case: yes
Apr 07 14:06:44 <MJR__>	have they tried to make a good faith gesture to the community: yes
Apr 07 14:06:53 <MJR__>	so, I don't judge
Apr 07 14:07:05 <MJR__>	hope they do it well
Apr 07 14:07:13 <MJR__>	and turn out to be legit
Apr 07 14:07:43 <MJR__>	best of luck to them, worst of luck to Mary Jo
Apr 07 14:08:16 <punkman>	I think they will either run away with the coins, or lose everything due to incompetence
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Apr 07 14:08:27 <MJR__>	Mary jo white: chairman of SEC
Apr 07 14:09:55 <MJR__>	we'll see...I am not vouching for them. if they put up 1k bitcoins, is trust them up to 1k bitcoins
Apr 07 14:11:00 <MJR__>	one thing to notice about this idea, is that people are more scared about this than SR...
Apr 07 14:11:00 <jurov>	just btw: http://bitbet.us/bet/314/bitcointalk-org-treasurer-to-be-scammer-tagged/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc
Apr 07 14:11:22 <jurov>	also something to be scared about
Apr 07 14:12:51 <mod6>	whos that like Theymos<sp> or whatever?
Apr 07 14:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-]
Apr 07 14:13:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Apr 07 14:13:39 <jurov>	mod6 yes theymos is providing interest free loans
Apr 07 14:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.83 = 9.15 BTC [-]
Apr 07 14:15:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
Apr 07 14:15:30 <jurov>	MJR__ the risks that make ppl afraid of torbroker were thoroughly explained by mp...
Apr 07 14:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.82 = 3.64 BTC [-]
Apr 07 14:16:17 <MJR__>	jurov: I agree, being scared and being scammed are two completely different things
Apr 07 14:16:29 <jurov>	on SR at least you can assume is in mutual interest of both parties not to get busted
Apr 07 14:16:32 <MJR__>	and it ends up requiring trust regardless
Apr 07 14:16:48 <MJR__>	same in this scenario I think
Apr 07 14:17:05 <MJR__>	unlicensed broker vs insider trading or w/e
Apr 07 14:17:24 <mod6>	jurov: hmm. ok thx.
Apr 07 14:17:42 <MJR__>	so far no treasurer has been scammer tagged right?
Apr 07 14:17:55 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 07 14:17:56 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 2 hours, 35 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 07 14:17:56 <jurov>	lol not afaik
Apr 07 14:17:56 <MJR__>	didn't know everyone on the list
Apr 07 14:18:25 <MJR__>	anyways, im against regulation that stifles growth and increases cost
Apr 07 14:18:53 <MJR__>	it's sacred that your vote is anonymous but my stock transactions can't be?
Apr 07 14:19:58 <MJR__>	was trying to figure out how to work in "or the terrorists win"...
Apr 07 14:20:31 <jurov>	that's another discussion.
Apr 07 14:20:56 <MJR_III>	lol
Apr 07 14:21:08 <MJR_III>	moved to other computer, still me
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Apr 07 14:21:16 <mjr___>	there
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Apr 07 14:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-bitcoiners-press-manual/#comment-92639
Apr 07 14:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.38100001 BTC [-]
Apr 07 14:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	somebody on sa was proposing the theory that theymoos is preparing to steal the forum funds
Apr 07 14:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	and is looking for patsies to do it, hence the bizzare forum loan thing.
Apr 07 14:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	that's how that bet was born
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Apr 07 14:26:57 <jurov>	oh, i rather put the bet on natural decay premise
Apr 07 14:27:23 <jurov>	and past performance. no need for conspirations here
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Apr 07 14:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27700001 BTC [-]
Apr 07 14:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.277 = 1.108 BTC [-]
Apr 07 14:29:10 <AndroUser>	;;ticker
Apr 07 14:29:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 160.88000, Best ask: 161.19990, Bid-ask spread: 0.31990, Last trade: 160.88000, 24 hour volume: 52201.20570405, 24 hour low: 142.10000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 151.86806
Apr 07 14:29:18 <ChaangNoi>	.277 hmm
Apr 07 14:29:31 <mjr___>	mircea_popescu: good article, but i feel like it doesn't account for the "sheepness" of americans, see: stanford experiment
Apr 07 14:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	jurov o its yours ?
Apr 07 14:30:01 <mjr___>	just have doctors say: "paying taxes is a good way to avoid heart disease" and they'll prob do it
Apr 07 14:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.385 BTC [+]
Apr 07 14:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 07 14:30:42 <mjr___>	end of the day "proles" are proles, not because they have to be, but cuz they want to be
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Apr 07 14:30:58 <mjr___>	most people want to show up, be told what to do, and then go home and watch a big flat screen
Apr 07 14:31:31 <mjr___>	its telling that for most people one of their biggest fears is speaking in public
Apr 07 14:31:40 <mjr___>	hence, one guy on stage, big crowd
Apr 07 14:31:56 <mjr___>	exactly the way they all like it
Apr 07 14:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.309 = 1.236 BTC [+]
Apr 07 14:32:58 <mircea_popescu>	i thouight you didn't agree regulations are there to protect the litytle guy.
Apr 07 14:33:04 <mjr___>	doing nothing is what they are good at, and that's all thats required for the triumph of evil
Apr 07 14:33:47 <mjr___>	couldn't untangle the negatives...token regulations appear to protect the little guy, but the system is designed to make them serfs
Apr 07 14:34:01 <mjr___>	bread and circus's
Apr 07 14:34:10 <mircea_popescu>	mkay.
Apr 07 14:34:18 <mjr___>	couldn't figure out plurals there either...lol
Apr 07 14:34:56 <mjr___>	my whole philosophy on rule is that the best rise to the top and out of a sense of morals treat others with some respect
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Apr 07 14:35:42 <mjr___>	you would be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't) at home many btc users would voluntarily list btc gains on their taxes
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Apr 07 14:35:48 <mjr___>	*how
Apr 07 14:36:16 <mjr___>	typically the long suffering middle class that doesn't yet realize its all a sham
Apr 07 14:36:26 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 07 14:36:28 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 150.20
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Apr 07 14:36:51 <mjr___>	wow we got political today huh? lets lighten up the mood huh? YAY 160
Apr 07 14:37:13 <jurov>	yes the bet is mine. and i commented on that innovation rant.
Apr 07 14:37:38 <mircea_popescu>	"Women in Uganda who go out wearing mini-skirts could face jail or a heavy fine under draconian new anti-pornography laws. "
Apr 07 14:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	apparently uganda is not literate enough to understand that the actual woman IS NOT GRAPHY
Apr 07 14:38:13 <mjr___>	hahaha
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Apr 07 14:40:17 <mod6>	;;rate mircea_popescu 5 Owner/Operator of MPEx - Always professional and helpful! A number BTC txs between us.
Apr 07 14:40:18 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 4 to 5.
Apr 07 14:40:23 <ChaangNoi>	so much for the "correction"
Apr 07 14:40:56 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 07 14:40:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 160.27000, Best ask: 161.34440, Bid-ask spread: 1.07440, Last trade: 160.26000, 24 hour volume: 52286.65160406, 24 hour low: 142.10000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 151.93692
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Apr 07 14:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [+]
Apr 07 14:43:26 <mod6>	;;tslb
Apr 07 14:43:31 <gribble>	Time since last block: 2 hours, 7 minutes, and 28 seconds
Apr 07 14:43:33 <mod6>	O.O
Apr 07 14:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	no wai ?!
Apr 07 14:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	are we forked again ?
Apr 07 14:44:16 <ChaangNoi>	???
Apr 07 14:44:18 <ChaangNoi>	what?
Apr 07 14:44:29 <ChaangNoi>	this is why ltc
Apr 07 14:44:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00301846 = 0.7546 BTC [-]
Apr 07 14:44:51 <ChaangNoi>	maybe just had a diff change?
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Apr 07 14:45:05 <mod6>	doesn't look like there have been any orphaned blocks en mass yet...
Apr 07 14:45:06 <mjr___>	diff change was yesterday i thouhght
Apr 07 14:45:08 <mod6>	;;bc,stats
Apr 07 14:45:11 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230145 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1694 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 34 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8807725.92632 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.78856
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Apr 07 14:45:53 <deadweasel>	dafuq?
Apr 07 14:46:23 <mod6>	;;bc,nethash
Apr 07 14:46:23 <gribble>	Error: "bc,nethash" is not a valid command.
Apr 07 14:46:26 <mod6>	bah
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Apr 07 14:46:41 <ChaangNoi>	no orphand blocks
Apr 07 14:47:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 07 14:47:15 <gribble>	60017.6664907
Apr 07 14:47:22 <ChaangNoi>	either it is broke or just a slow block
Apr 07 14:47:51 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 07 14:47:54 <kakobrekla>	bitbet says Last block: 9 minutes ago (230160)
Apr 07 14:47:55 <mod6>	60Th on this... hopefully just the latter ChaangNoi
Apr 07 14:48:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Apr 07 14:48:08 <gribble>	Time since last block: 2 hours, 12 minutes, and 6 seconds
Apr 07 14:48:08 <ChaangNoi>	well yeah we all hope the latter:)
Apr 07 14:48:16 <kakobrekla>	bitbet is a tank :o
Apr 07 14:48:18 <mod6>	you're on 230160 kakobrekla?!
Apr 07 14:48:43 <mod6>	last block i see is 230145
Apr 07 14:48:46 <ChaangNoi>	230160 here
Apr 07 14:48:55 <mod6>	oh im looking at blockchain.info
Apr 07 14:48:57 <mod6>	;;bc,blocks
Apr 07 14:48:58 <gribble>	230160
Apr 07 14:49:02 <ChaangNoi>	okay the bot and blockchain is off
Apr 07 14:49:03 <mod6>	ok. hmm
Apr 07 14:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	ya seems gribble tiomer is off
Apr 07 14:49:12 <ChaangNoi>	btc seems fine
Apr 07 14:49:15 <kakobrekla>	oh no fork :((
Apr 07 14:49:27 <ChaangNoi>	blockchain.info is off too
Apr 07 14:49:31 <ChaangNoi>	no fork
Apr 07 14:49:39 <ChaangNoi>	but id like to know what is up
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Apr 07 14:49:41 <mod6>	stuff makes me go: O.O
Apr 07 14:49:52 <ChaangNoi>	yeah, i was wtf for a sec
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Apr 07 14:50:04 <mod6>	ok thx guise
Apr 07 14:52:51 <ChaangNoi>	close to ath as well
Apr 07 14:52:54 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 07 14:52:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 159.99453, Best ask: 160.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00547, Last trade: 160.00000, 24 hour volume: 53042.57071672, 24 hour low: 142.10000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 152.09510
Apr 07 14:53:02 <ChaangNoi>	well we were lol
Apr 07 14:53:46 <ChaangNoi>	no this bot is fucked we are hogher lol
Apr 07 14:53:58 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 07 14:53:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 159.76669, Best ask: 159.99453, Bid-ask spread: 0.22784, Last trade: 159.99453, 24 hour volume: 53050.24722819, 24 hour low: 142.10000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 152.09625
Apr 07 14:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 07 14:54:09 <ChaangNoi>	we are over 161
Apr 07 14:56:07 <ChaangNoi>	230160... id like to know why this bot and blockchaininfo is off
Apr 07 14:56:52 <ChaangNoi>	and why after 10 mins my btc client still says last block was 51 secs ago
Apr 07 14:57:19 <ChaangNoi>	nvm
Apr 07 14:57:39 <ChaangNoi>	we hit a new block on my client and it just happend to see it at 51 seconds again
Apr 07 14:57:53 <ChaangNoi>	odds on that...
Apr 07 14:57:59 <jurov>	i have  230161
Apr 07 14:58:06 <ChaangNoi>	yeah me too
Apr 07 14:58:15 <mod6>	yea so does: http://blockexplorer.com/
Apr 07 14:58:19 <ChaangNoi>	good
Apr 07 14:58:34 <ChaangNoi>	blockchaininfo is broken
Apr 07 14:58:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.777 BTC [+]
Apr 07 14:58:40 <mod6>	maybe blockchain.info is just horked
Apr 07 14:58:41 <ChaangNoi>	not a huge deal
Apr 07 14:58:44 <ChaangNoi>	yeah
Apr 07 14:58:56 <ChaangNoi>	it seems to be horked hard
Apr 07 14:59:16 <mod6>	needs a bitcoind reset.
Apr 07 14:59:49 <jurov>	lol or it's still writing a core file
Apr 07 14:59:51 <ThickAsThieves>	i have a tx that only shows 2 confs on blockchain.info, yet has cleared into the destination (mtgox) already
Apr 07 15:00:15 <mjr___>	so blockchain.info is incorrect
Apr 07 15:00:46 <mjr___>	shit, i have to run to reddit and post that bitcoin is hacked
Apr 07 15:00:59 <mjr___>	;0
Apr 07 15:01:04 <mod6>	haha
Apr 07 15:01:09 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Apr 07 15:01:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 23 @ 0.2 = 4.6 BTC [+]
Apr 07 15:01:35 <mod6>	ThickAsThieves: i've got one going into blockchain.info too -- so we'll see what happens.
Apr 07 15:01:39 <mod6>	no confs yet
Apr 07 15:01:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7775 BTC [+]
Apr 07 15:02:04 <mod6>	was only sent a few mins ago though
Apr 07 15:02:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7786 BTC [+]
Apr 07 15:02:26 <ChaangNoi>	id not send to blockchain.info until they get un horked
Apr 07 15:02:38 <deadweasel>	me either/
Apr 07 15:02:53 <mod6>	haha, right. if i would have checked first, i'd have done a diff addr.
Apr 07 15:03:00 <mod6>	*DOH*
Apr 07 15:03:04 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Apr 07 15:03:21 <mod6>	i need to run my own bitcoind's again...
Apr 07 15:03:24 <ChaangNoi>	whydo people use online clients anyway?
Apr 07 15:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.385 = 1.155 BTC [+]
Apr 07 15:04:05 <mjr___>	yeah, i have bitcoin-qt running on 3 computers
Apr 07 15:04:23 <mod6>	just a good temp spot to do a tx to, at least thats what I use it for.  my bitcoind is so far behind it grinds my hd to catch it up
Apr 07 15:04:24 <mod6>	and takes days to catch it up
Apr 07 15:04:30 <mod6>	i need to get a farm of bitcoinds
Apr 07 15:05:00 <deadweasel>	ec2
Apr 07 15:05:12 <mjr___>	yeah, i was curoius
Apr 07 15:05:19 <deadweasel>	my next project is that
Apr 07 15:05:25 <mjr___>	how can you transfer an up to date version of bitcoin to an ec2 instance
Apr 07 15:05:27 <mod6>	yeah, maybe i should just get a few instances up there
Apr 07 15:05:40 <mjr___>	i have one instance, i just ratchet up processing power if i need it
Apr 07 15:05:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00249 BTC [+]
Apr 07 15:05:46 <deadweasel>	one micro is free, any more is not
Apr 07 15:06:13 <mjr___>	yep, so i leave it as t1.micro till i need to install something, boost it to m1.medium, then lower it down again
Apr 07 15:06:33 <deadweasel>	micro will install anything
Apr 07 15:06:42 <deadweasel>	no need to boost
Apr 07 15:06:49 <mjr___>	if you have a ton of time to wait
Apr 07 15:07:03 <mjr___>	it only goes between 1/2 an ecu and 2 ecu in short bursts
Apr 07 15:07:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.0025 = 0.0075 BTC [+]
Apr 07 15:07:25 <mjr___>	so if you burst too long, you are running a hamster in a wheel...
Apr 07 15:07:30 <deadweasel>	i know. it's been enough so far.  bitcoind may crash it tho....
Apr 07 15:07:50 <mod6>	i wish they accepted btc @ aws
Apr 07 15:07:50 <mjr___>	well, once it is up and running, i think it'll run on a micro
Apr 07 15:08:33 <mjr___>	dude...i hate to admit it, but the US military is kinda cool...
Apr 07 15:08:53 <mjr___>	B2 bombers flew from missouri to korea to drop dummy bombs 50 miles from the border then flew home
Apr 07 15:08:59 <deadweasel>	??  their toys are.
Apr 07 15:09:10 <deadweasel>	lol
Apr 07 15:09:13 <deadweasel>	shit link?
Apr 07 15:09:16 <mjr___>	back in time for lunch
Apr 07 15:09:50 <mircea_popescu>	mjr___ the problem with this entire exercise is
Apr 07 15:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	that it cost more than what koreea is worth, lock stock and barrel
Apr 07 15:10:22 <mjr___>	lol true
Apr 07 15:11:10 <Bugpowder>	samsung is worth more than apple.
Apr 07 15:11:25 <mjr___>	http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/29/us-korea-north-usa-b-idUSBRE92S0IE20130329
Apr 07 15:11:43 <mjr___>	first off...when people say "korea' they mean North Korea
Apr 07 15:11:56 <mjr___>	which is worth approx $17.12
Apr 07 15:12:42 <mjr___>	So elite is the B-2 pilot corps that more people have been in outer space than have flown the aircraft,
Apr 07 15:13:23 <mjr___>	While the 20-year-old B-2 often flies for long durations - 44 hours is the record - Thursday's flight of approximately 37-1/2 hours was the plane's first non-stop mission to the Korean peninsula and back from Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, Air Force officials said.
Apr 07 15:15:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 15:15:04 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2.490974 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00499188400567 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
Apr 07 15:15:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 07 15:15:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 158.76313, Best ask: 159.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.72687, Last trade: 159.49000, 24 hour volume: 53490.89789959, 24 hour low: 142.10000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 152.19941
Apr 07 15:15:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 150
Apr 07 15:15:55 <gribble>	There are currently 6000.4848 bitcoins demanded at or over 150.0 USD, worth 920680.816735 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0047 seconds
Apr 07 15:16:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000649 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
Apr 07 15:16:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 165
Apr 07 15:16:12 <gribble>	There are currently 3111.8879 bitcoins offered at or under 165.0 USD, worth 507975.519981 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.6762 seconds
Apr 07 15:20:17 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130947.msg1765127#msg1765127
Apr 07 15:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	"I am still having little problems figuring out the accounting software and using it for proper reporting.
Apr 07 15:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	In March, we sold only 57,90€ worth of firing services"
Apr 07 15:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	eskimo's usagi moment ?
Apr 07 15:22:17 <mod6>	popcorn time on that
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Apr 07 15:26:24 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 160
Apr 07 15:26:27 <gribble>	There are currently 88.641651 bitcoins offered at or under 160.0 USD, worth 14181.1047695 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Apr 07 15:26:31 <Enky>	;;ticker
Apr 07 15:26:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 159.31001, Best ask: 160.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.68999, Last trade: 160.00000, 24 hour volume: 53486.82477840, 24 hour low: 142.10000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 152.24281
Apr 07 15:29:22 <jurov>	deadweasel, just buy some cheap mini-itx computer and run bitcoind from there. no need to surrender your walet to amazon
Apr 07 15:32:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 39 @ 0.0025 = 0.0975 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 15:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00065893 = 5.3373 BTC [-]
Apr 07 15:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34252 @ 0.00065551 = 22.4525 BTC [-]
Apr 07 15:35:05 <AndroUser>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=168992.msg1762685#msg1762685
Apr 07 15:35:25 <AndroUser>	If you want a laugh
Apr 07 15:38:43 <mircea_popescu>	already had that one lol
Apr 07 15:41:41 <deadweasel>	no, i would not put my keys on ec2 lol..  but thanks for double checking..  :D
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Apr 07 15:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.4099999 = 6.56 BTC [+]
Apr 07 15:47:03 <mod6>	what version are you guys liking at the moment? i've got .7, but its a ways behind yet.
Apr 07 15:47:03 <mod6>	what's the deal with .8x?
Apr 07 15:47:18 <mod6>	anyone using it? or are dev's still battling it out?
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Apr 07 15:52:01 <mod6>	blockchain.info es muerte
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Apr 07 15:52:28 <deadweasel>	mod6: duo but also curious...  my instinct is to run .7 with manual patch..
Apr 07 15:53:13 <mod6>	deadweasel: ahh. i suppose that's a good way to go atm.
Apr 07 15:54:23 <deadweasel>	i fear .81
Apr 07 15:55:02 <deadweasel>	because i can't get into #bitcoin-security and see if .8 is borked worse than it seems...
Apr 07 15:55:11 <mod6>	ahh, ok. i heard there was a fierce debate on that in -dev
Apr 07 15:55:16 <jurov>	mod6, I'm happy with 0.8.1. its' much easied on hdd
Apr 07 15:55:46 <mod6>	jurov: ahh ok that sounds nice
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Apr 07 15:55:59 <deadweasel>	they level db now?
Apr 07 15:56:03 <deadweasel>	*use
Apr 07 15:56:07 <jurov>	yes
Apr 07 15:56:17 <mod6>	i think what i remember hearing about it is that 0.8.1 breaks the upgrade process... or it was more problematic then usual.
Apr 07 15:56:27 <mjr___>	whats the easiest way to upgrade and do you have to redownload the whole blockchain?
Apr 07 15:56:37 *	deadweasel forgets words normally typed by left hand as lft wrist sprain is severe..
Apr 07 15:56:45 <mod6>	jeeze i really need to quit other shit an just do this full time, hard to keep up
Apr 07 15:56:59 <jurov>	since i run two instances anyway, it was easiest to have 0.8.1 sync from 0.7
Apr 07 15:57:11 <jurov>	and it took only one hour over LAN
Apr 07 15:57:21 <mod6>	ahh ok
Apr 07 15:57:26 <mjr___>	ah ok nice, can you run them both on the same machine?
Apr 07 15:57:28 <deadweasel>	nice!
Apr 07 15:57:56 <jurov>	yes, under two linux users, if you configure the second to listen on another port
Apr 07 15:58:04 <jurov>	and connect to primary
Apr 07 15:58:45 <mjr___>	hmmm windows atm, due to some software compatiblitity issues
Apr 07 15:59:07 <deadweasel>	does it come in handy when sending txns?   can you confirm  your own or point it at a reliable node?
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Apr 07 16:00:10 <jurov>	when ran persistently with allowed incoming connectons in firewall
Apr 07 16:00:12 <mjr___>	still has to reindex all but seems to be doing that very quick
Apr 07 16:00:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 07 16:00:20 <jurov>	i enjoy quick tx propagation
Apr 07 16:00:47 <mjr___>	i heard there was a way to increase how many nodes you connect to
Apr 07 16:00:47 <jurov>	yes it does reindex but when pointed to local node on LAN it does it very quickly
Apr 07 16:00:54 <mjr___>	someone got over 20k iirc?
Apr 07 16:01:19 <jurov>	dunno, 100 is enough for me
Apr 07 16:01:32 <mjr___>	i usually get around 8
Apr 07 16:02:23 <mod6>	jeeze. im dumb.
Apr 07 16:02:56 <jurov>	mjr___: check ur router/firewall
Apr 07 16:03:42 <jurov>	and also, i repeat if that got lost... it's better to keep it running all the time(hence my mini itx box suggestion)
Apr 07 16:04:01 <jurov>	or old notebook or so
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Apr 07 16:05:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7826 BTC [+]
Apr 07 16:07:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
Apr 07 16:07:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 07 16:08:00 <mjr___>	the reindexing is almost done
Apr 07 16:08:03 <mjr___>	very fast
Apr 07 16:08:29 <mjr___>	but still only 8 connections
Apr 07 16:08:36 <mjr___>	its using upnp i think
Apr 07 16:12:59 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMillionaires
Apr 07 16:13:33 <mjr___>	can't wait to move my ec2 instance up to a high i/o model
Apr 07 16:14:52 <jurov>	you have these 8 connections on ec2?
Apr 07 16:15:30 <mjr___>	no, on my home computer
Apr 07 16:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol cool.
Apr 07 16:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	that bitcoin billionz scammer ?
Apr 07 16:16:02 <mjr___>	but i can't do much with the POS router i get from time warner
Apr 07 16:16:02 <mjr___>	the fact that i got 8 means i should be able to get more though i think
Apr 07 16:16:14 <jurov>	definitely
Apr 07 16:16:44 <mjr___>	the EC2 is for the exchange software :)
Apr 07 16:17:23 <mjr___>	speaking of which, i may need some beta testing done...
Apr 07 16:17:43 <mjr___>	as soon as its up and running
Apr 07 16:17:43 <mjr___>	on testnet
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Apr 07 16:19:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22548 @ 0.00065551 = 14.7804 BTC [-]
Apr 07 16:19:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00064979 = 7.3426 BTC [-]
Apr 07 16:19:41 <mjr___>	hoping to bring up fix connections and gateway today...hoping
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Apr 07 16:25:11 <dub>	8 connections is teh default outbound amount
Apr 07 16:25:18 <dub>	you need to open port inbound for more
Apr 07 16:26:44 <AndroUser>	;;ticker
Apr 07 16:26:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 159.00000, Best ask: 159.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 159.60000, 24 hour volume: 54492.68134914, 24 hour low: 142.49000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 152.48566
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Apr 07 16:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.40888888 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 16:32:38 <unbalanced>	Anyone know the Mt. Gox wait list size? And/or where people get it from?
Apr 07 16:33:22 <copumpkin>	people sign up and bitch publicly about how high the number is
Apr 07 16:33:53 <mjr___>	heard it was over 14k today
Apr 07 16:33:55 <copumpkin>	the rest of us watch them bitch
Apr 07 16:33:57 <copumpkin>	and get the number
Apr 07 16:34:15 <Lyspooner>	casascius coins are expensive http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=casascius
Apr 07 16:34:43 <mjr___>	copumpkin: hey there, whats new
Apr 07 16:35:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.145 = 1.015 BTC [+]
Apr 07 16:35:43 <unbalanced>	thx guise
Apr 07 16:35:55 <mod6>	ok blockchain.info seems to be caught back up. thx!
Apr 07 16:35:57 <mod6>	*whew*
Apr 07 16:36:33 <deadweasel>	srsly, made some ppl crazy...
Apr 07 16:36:39 <deadweasel>	:D
Apr 07 16:37:24 <mod6>	wow. that kinda thing usually makes me raise my eyebrows, but this time i had a tx that was held up! lol
Apr 07 16:37:44 <mod6>	and i've had like 5 cups of coffee now. so.. ZOOM
Apr 07 16:37:58 <mod6>	:]
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Apr 07 16:39:35 <AndroUser>	;;ticker
Apr 07 16:39:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 161.20000, Best ask: 161.24753, Bid-ask spread: 0.04753, Last trade: 161.20000, 24 hour volume: 55005.80822607, 24 hour low: 142.49000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 152.56799
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Apr 07 16:43:14 <deadweasel>	mod6: that's a lot of coffee..  time to switch to tea?  :p
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Apr 07 16:44:20 <mod6>	heheh.
Apr 07 16:44:27 *	mod6 tries to picture mod6 drinking tea
Apr 07 16:45:10 <deadweasel>	lol
Apr 07 16:45:21 <mod6>	im usually drinkin mtdew -- but sometimes switch to coffee but need tons of caffeine
Apr 07 16:45:43 <deadweasel>	lawd, that stuff is caffeine kryptonite....
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Apr 07 16:46:06 <deadweasel>	hows your sleep ;)
Apr 07 16:46:37 <mod6>	has been pretty minimal for years. epecially since i've been in btc.
Apr 07 16:46:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00064551 = 14.6854 BTC [-]
Apr 07 16:46:50 <mod6>	but lately not bad actually. :}
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Apr 07 16:48:04 <deadweasel>	ha, i hear ya.
Apr 07 16:48:26 <mod6>	i need to get back on the all-night-satoshi-horse again though and keep coding
Apr 07 16:48:36 <mod6>	cause thats when i get the most stuff done i think
Apr 07 16:49:11 <mod6>	need to do moar bitotter stuff!
Apr 07 16:49:27 <mod6>	but i've got some help now, so that's pretty awesome
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Apr 07 16:51:08 <deadweasel>	nice. help is good.  i need someone to type for me. :/
Apr 07 16:52:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 07 16:52:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 161.50000, Best ask: 162.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 162.00000, 24 hour volume: 55783.45629488, 24 hour low: 142.50000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 152.73010
Apr 07 16:52:51 <mod6>	deadweasel: yeah that sucks dude. :/
Apr 07 16:53:05 <mod6>	need like a voice to text prog or something while it heals up
Apr 07 16:53:31 <deadweasel>	good idea....
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Apr 07 16:54:59 <mod6>	*shrug* might help a bit :)
Apr 07 16:55:31 <deadweasel>	it might learn my speech by the time it heals
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Apr 07 16:57:09 <jurov>	deadweasel: androids voice input seems pretty good
Apr 07 16:57:28 <jurov>	but dunno if it has desktop version
Apr 07 16:58:48 <deadweasel>	gonna try julius..  then maybe get that ref done tonight.  :)
Apr 07 16:59:00 <mod6>	cool!
Apr 07 16:59:37 <mod6>	seems like it even works for *nix
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Apr 07 17:02:15 <AndroUser>	;;ticker
Apr 07 17:02:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 162.04000, Best ask: 162.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.66000, Last trade: 162.00000, 24 hour volume: 55812.02397179, 24 hour low: 142.50000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 152.77611
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Apr 07 17:02:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1806 = 18.06 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 17:09:01 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 07 17:09:03 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 151.60
Apr 07 17:09:13 <deadweasel>	nice.
Apr 07 17:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.93 = 5.79 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 17:16:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7827 BTC [+]
Apr 07 17:17:14 <kakobrekla>	>>We are not collecting any money here, this is an idea that will strictly use Bitcoins.
Apr 07 17:17:20 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169663.0
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Apr 07 17:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lmao. right.
Apr 07 17:18:46 <mircea_popescu>	because "the people" can do anything they set their mind to.
Apr 07 17:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	at least just as soon as they find it.
Apr 07 17:19:22 <benkay>	what do you mean, mircea_popescu?
Apr 07 17:19:31 <benkay>	apologies if I'm late to the party...
Apr 07 17:20:07 <mircea_popescu>	not rly, just read the last half dozen lines
Apr 07 17:20:52 <benkay>	who are you calling "the people"?
Apr 07 17:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169663.0
Apr 07 17:21:35 <benkay>	i'm reading that. are you talking about everyone in the thread? the individual proposing the thing? the followers?
Apr 07 17:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. :)
Apr 07 17:21:55 <mircea_popescu>	"my full name is David Tenemaza Kramaley - you can look me up in the UK companies house as a registered director. I've been featured in the BBC, Business Insider, The Times, National Geographic, Radio 4, etc... I can proof all of this to serious investors."
Apr 07 17:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	he's a registered director that can't spell "prove"
Apr 07 17:22:20 <benkay>	spelling, man
Apr 07 17:22:36 <jborkl>	and he needs 100 bitcoins.cant afford that he should leave
Apr 07 17:23:07 <mircea_popescu>	Hello I am son of Prince which I can proof with 40 degree alcohol.
Apr 07 17:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	You drink it, you see it.
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Apr 07 17:23:21 <benkay>	hm
Apr 07 17:23:46 <benkay>	it's not a terribly bad idea, but i see what you mean about the individual.
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Apr 07 17:23:59 <mircea_popescu>	We need to raise 105 BTC. Each 1.5 BTC buys 1 share in the new business. Max 25 Shares per investor.
Apr 07 17:24:05 <benkay>	yeah, yeah.
Apr 07 17:24:05 <jborkl>	maybe he used some of that berechovka that was floating around last year
Apr 07 17:24:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 105 / 1.5
Apr 07 17:24:12 <gribble>	70
Apr 07 17:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	70 shares, max 25 per investor.
Apr 07 17:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	isnt this odd ?
Apr 07 17:24:47 <jborkl>	lol good maf skills also
Apr 07 17:24:59 <jborkl>	proof his maf
Apr 07 17:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	The opportunity
Apr 07 17:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	I'm here to propose a take over of www.bitcoingem.com together. I was made aware that this is the first chain game and by the looks of its traffic stats its pretty well established.
Apr 07 17:25:34 <mircea_popescu>	o for fucks sake.
Apr 07 17:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	he wants to pay 10k for a gemponzi ?!
Apr 07 17:25:57 <benkay>	yeah dude
Apr 07 17:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	he could buy my used socks...
Apr 07 17:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	i throw them out anyway.
Apr 07 17:26:34 <jborkl>	someone should ipo all these shitty ideas.oh wait we already did that ...
Apr 07 17:26:42 <benkay>	this isn't an ipo scale thing
Apr 07 17:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	no listen to this : "Why do I think we can triple profits?
Apr 07 17:26:45 <mircea_popescu>	I ran a social games company on Facebook since 2008 to 2012; in the 5 years of operation I made many games. "
Apr 07 17:26:56 <mircea_popescu>	guy codes but wants to pay 10k for something I could probably werite myself
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Apr 07 17:28:29 <benkay>	this is the kind of ad hoc business that is enabled by bitcoin
Apr 07 17:28:33 <benkay>	limited ownership
Apr 07 17:29:00 <mircea_popescu>	limited connectivity to sanity, more like.
Apr 07 17:29:29 <benkay>	there is a remote possibilty the gentleman has done this thing before and sees an underutilized asset he can buy low and turn the volume up on.
Apr 07 17:29:33 <benkay>	with a recognized brand.
Apr 07 17:29:42 <benkay>	all he really has to do is buy ads
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Apr 07 17:30:17 <mircea_popescu>	in that case he just makes a lowball offer, buys the site and goes on his way
Apr 07 17:30:18 <Troic>	I thought the gem thing was a freak novelty gizmo fad,  I liked the bitcoin flower better :).
Apr 07 17:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	if his lowball offer is turned down he puts one guy on the project and has the site replicated by wednesday
Apr 07 17:30:54 <benkay>	but that's not what homeboy wants to do
Apr 07 17:30:56 <benkay>	apparently
Apr 07 17:31:07 <mircea_popescu>	wants. it's not a matter of wants.
Apr 07 17:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	there's a reason I ipo already functioning sites.
Apr 07 17:31:33 <benkay>	and that is?
Apr 07 17:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	anyone's a theoretical entrepreneur
Apr 07 17:32:12 <mircea_popescu>	practically, you gotta bring something to the table. if you allow this model where the homeboy wants you to pay for his acquisition
Apr 07 17:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	all he's bringing is a little nigerian skill.
Apr 07 17:33:18 <benkay>	so?
Apr 07 17:33:35 <benkay>	and a willingness to do it, and possibly a track record of having done it
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Apr 07 17:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	i have a lot of trouble believing that.
Apr 07 17:34:03 <benkay>	oh sure but let's say theoretically
Apr 07 17:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	theoretically maybe.
Apr 07 17:34:10 <benkay>	remote chance and all that
Apr 07 17:34:18 <mircea_popescu>	but yeah, pretty darn remote.
Apr 07 17:34:22 <benkay>	not the point
Apr 07 17:34:40 <mircea_popescu>	here's the problem : suppose i'm an investment fund. i have 10k btc.
Apr 07 17:34:49 <mircea_popescu>	i put 10btc in 1k such projects
Apr 07 17:35:02 <mircea_popescu>	985 flounder, because they were in fact run by idiots, nigerians and uidiot nigerians.
Apr 07 17:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	the rermainder 14 will not be able to bring me 10001 btc in total.
Apr 07 17:35:48 <benkay>	i don't really think he's looking at an investment-caliber round
Apr 07 17:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	10 btc.
Apr 07 17:36:31 <benkay>	so you're saying that statistically he's likely to fail. also a thing anyone who puts money into companies should expect.
Apr 07 17:36:46 <mircea_popescu>	no, i'm not saying that statistically he's likel;y to fail
Apr 07 17:37:03 <mircea_popescu>	i am saying that the statistically expected benefit is degrees of magnitude under the statistically expected loss.
Apr 07 17:37:21 <mircea_popescu>	as in, a 1 in 1000 shot at making 10% on your investment, and a 999 in 1000 shot at 90% loss of cvapital.
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Apr 07 17:37:34 <benkay>	of course
Apr 07 17:37:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc (1 * 1.1 + 999 * .1)/1000
Apr 07 17:37:45 <gribble>	0.101
Apr 07 17:38:01 <benkay>	if one invested in the idiots
Apr 07 17:38:27 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 07 17:38:29 <benkay>	but individuals beat the markets all the time by developing expertise
Apr 07 17:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	well, my expertise tells me this guy is lieing when he claims he had success.
Apr 07 17:38:50 <benkay>	heh.
Apr 07 17:38:51 <benkay>	like
Apr 07 17:38:57 <benkay>	worked in the presence of accidental success?
Apr 07 17:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00064551 = 10.8446 BTC [-]
Apr 07 17:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00064501 = 0.8385 BTC [-]
Apr 07 17:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	ok, that i can buy.
Apr 07 17:39:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00064063 = 0.4484 BTC [-]
Apr 07 17:39:27 <benkay>	individuals can learn a lot by seeing things happen. humans experience the world and evolce.
Apr 07 17:39:43 <mircea_popescu>	seeing requires a relatively clean lens.
Apr 07 17:39:44 <benkay>	evolve*. not that many *do* obviously, but it happens.
Apr 07 17:40:01 <benkay>	a clean lens is not necessarily a requirement for success.
Apr 07 17:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	people who imagine they're being entrepreneurs and in general doods preocupied with posturing and maintaining apparences
Apr 07 17:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	rarely learn anything.
Apr 07 17:40:34 <benkay>	but the individuals they mock look very similar to them.
Apr 07 17:40:45 <mircea_popescu>	ya well...
Apr 07 17:41:05 <benkay>	i wish i could meet the guy
Apr 07 17:41:21 <benkay>	mostly because i'm trying to develop expertise in the evaluating of people thing
Apr 07 17:41:43 <benkay>	what sorts of things do you invest in, mircea_popescu?
Apr 07 17:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	anything that makes sense
Apr 07 17:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-]
Apr 07 17:43:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [-]
Apr 07 17:43:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.276 = 0.552 BTC [-]
Apr 07 17:43:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2716 = 0.8148 BTC [-]
Apr 07 17:43:26 <benkay>	ugh there is a video about him
Apr 07 17:43:29 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 07 17:43:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 164.10000, Best ask: 164.89994, Bid-ask spread: 0.79994, Last trade: 164.10000, 24 hour volume: 57855.56993253, 24 hour low: 142.51000, 24 hour high: 164.90000, 24 hour vwap: 153.31309
Apr 07 17:44:44 <mjr___>	and here i was being nervous about 164 call...
Apr 07 17:44:45 <mjr___>	lol
Apr 07 17:46:09 <AndroUser>	Learn to do the opposite of what you feel ;
Apr 07 17:46:15 <ThickAsThieves>	can always go down
Apr 07 17:46:22 <MJR__>	both are true
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Apr 07 17:47:02 <MJR__>	that's why I got the 164 calls in the first place...calls haven't let down so far
Apr 07 17:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.93 BTC [+]
Apr 07 17:47:24 <AndroUser>	It will go down, but when..
Apr 07 17:48:56 <AndroUser>	Hence a strategy with calls, puts and holding in a combination that makes sense no matter what happens
Apr 07 17:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136490667277.jpg
Apr 07 17:51:11 <AndroUser>	You cheeky cheeky
Apr 07 17:51:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 17:54:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00338 = 0.0473 BTC [+]
Apr 07 17:56:37 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: nice
Apr 07 17:56:45 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 07 17:56:46 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 152.20
Apr 07 17:57:20 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I feel as though you are an opponent to education because of the tendency for the young's reluctance to "listen"
Apr 07 17:57:56 <mircea_popescu>	i'm an opponent to free education, and also to nonviolent education.
Apr 07 17:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	if you only educate about half the kids, and beat the shit out of about half of those it works nicely.
Apr 07 17:59:04 <thestringpuller>	yes, you would use corporal punishment on individuals, they get 4 lashes everytime they tell you the integral of 2X is X^2 instead of X^2+C
Apr 07 17:59:19 <thestringpuller>	:P
Apr 07 17:59:37 <MJR__>	lol
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Apr 07 18:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
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Apr 07 18:01:50 <mircea_popescu>	they get dunked into the riever every time they say "I feel what the author really means"
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Apr 07 18:02:49 <jurov>	bitcoin-central.net pretty much died.. spread 80-120 eur
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Apr 07 18:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	jurov not open for trading yet is it ?
Apr 07 18:03:06 <thestringpuller>	jurov: wha?
Apr 07 18:03:24 <AndroUser>	Its open tomorrow
Apr 07 18:03:37 <AndroUser>	Its read only now
Apr 07 18:03:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7827 BTC [+]
Apr 07 18:03:51 <jurov>	ah ic
Apr 07 18:04:14 <thestringpuller>	did the coinlab deal with mtgox fall through?
Apr 07 18:04:14 <AndroUser>	With orders close to mkt price cancelled
Apr 07 18:04:46 <jurov>	On Sunday, April 7th at 11:00PM CET/Paris Time, full trading will resume with the ability to create and cancel buy and sell orders.
Apr 07 18:05:11 <AndroUser>	Fair enough
Apr 07 18:05:27 <jurov>	so at least orders could be able to get placed now
Apr 07 18:05:45 <jurov>	or in a hour
Apr 07 18:06:00 <mircea_popescu>	ya something like that.
Apr 07 18:06:05 <AndroUser>	Its passed already 11h
Apr 07 18:06:42 <AndroUser>	Good night! We survived another day in bitcoin land
Apr 07 18:07:08 <ThickAsThieves>	So we're lookin at 175-180 tomorrow it seems
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Apr 07 18:07:28 <jurov>	lol i'm actually in the same timezone.. just confused by summertime
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Apr 07 18:08:45 <jurov>	;;asks 179.99
Apr 07 18:08:48 <gribble>	There are currently 6231.4017 bitcoins offered at or under 179.99 USD, worth 1061300.05165 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Apr 07 18:13:16 <mjr___>	its crazy to see all the tiny amounts of bitcoin i have left across the web
Apr 07 18:13:28 <mjr___>	different mining pools and exchanges
Apr 07 18:13:46 <mjr___>	i think they may need to lower the sending threshhold eventually
Apr 07 18:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.407 = 0.814 BTC [-]
Apr 07 18:15:30 <thestringpuller>	!ticker havelock him
Apr 07 18:15:32 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.82000000 / 1.84970968 / 1.93000000 (31 shares, 57.34100000 BTC), 7D: 1.82000000 / 1.90441977 / 2.06000000 (86 shares, 163.78010000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.85548093 / 2.08000000 (682 shares, 1265.43799220 BTC)
Apr 07 18:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rape-is-fun-or-lets-fuck-up-adria-richards/#comment-92655
Apr 07 18:16:35 <mircea_popescu>	we have winners.
Apr 07 18:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30999999 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 18:26:55 <thestringpuller>	okay mircea_popescu is officially the rubber band man
Apr 07 18:27:02 <thestringpuller>	img macro to ensue
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Apr 07 18:30:30 <mjr___>	i kinda wish you and vexare had continued in english
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Apr 07 18:30:35 <mjr___>	it was starting to look interesting
Apr 07 18:30:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7888 BTC [+]
Apr 07 18:31:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7889 = 4.7334 BTC [+]
Apr 07 18:31:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.4 = 4 BTC [+]
Apr 07 18:31:40 <mircea_popescu>	i was just telling him off.
Apr 07 18:31:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
Apr 07 18:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.40888888 = 0.8178 BTC [+]
Apr 07 18:32:15 <mircea_popescu>	english just doesn't deliver under the telling off rubric.
Apr 07 18:32:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7889 BTC [+]
Apr 07 18:33:02 <MJR__>	nice
Apr 07 18:33:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 63 @ 0.0042 = 0.2646 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 18:35:26 <tiberiusiv>	what happend to coinlab?
Apr 07 18:36:31 <jurov>	mircea, deposits please :)
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Apr 07 18:39:01 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 18:39:02 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
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Apr 07 18:40:04 <jurov>	it could have said something about sending bitcoins via quantum entanglement
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Apr 07 18:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	jurov you know i don't highlight on mircea
Apr 07 18:43:47 <jurov>	yea it's not *so* urgent
Apr 07 18:44:04 <mircea_popescu>	haha k
Apr 07 18:44:35 <Bowjob>	rape adria
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Apr 07 18:50:31 <jurov>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-bitcoiners-press-manual/#comment-92651
Apr 07 18:51:01 <jurov>	^^^ deep metaphysical discussion culminated by wisdom "for mating purposes, world population count doesn't matter"
Apr 07 18:51:33 <mjr___>	jurov: lol
Apr 07 18:51:59 <jurov>	and everything else is akin to mating anyway
Apr 07 18:52:07 <mircea_popescu>	isn't it ?
Apr 07 18:52:18 <jurov>	undecided on it
Apr 07 18:52:34 <mircea_popescu>	so it IS deep metaphysical discussion :D
Apr 07 18:52:41 <jurov>	indeed
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Apr 07 19:00:05 <dub>	lol http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34781
Apr 07 19:01:26 <dub>	I say old chap. Down with this sort of thing!
Apr 07 19:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	Responsible department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Apr 07 19:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 07 19:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.emmaharriett.co.uk/ ?
Apr 07 19:03:04 <dub>	dunno https://twitter.com/EmmaHarriett too was looking for bitcoin references
Apr 07 19:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.castingcallpro.com/uk/view.php?uid=377118
Apr 07 19:03:50 <mircea_popescu>	can
Apr 07 19:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	't be a 30yo acress chick can it ?!
Apr 07 19:03:59 <dub>	comes accross like your typical limey toff
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Apr 07 19:04:22 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what does BCB stand for?
Apr 07 19:04:46 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin central bank
Apr 07 19:04:54 <thestringpuller>	is that like a joke?
Apr 07 19:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	sort-of
Apr 07 19:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	dub more like the typical unmaffy muff.
Apr 07 19:05:24 <dub>	is that the forum/otc masturbator?
Apr 07 19:05:38 <dub>	I honestly cannot tell if he's a troll or not
Apr 07 19:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	un-maffy ie didn't learn to multiply past 5
Apr 07 19:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	and muff as in, bird.
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Apr 07 19:09:29 <btcc100>	http://www.satoshi-karoshi.com/?r=9059
Apr 07 19:10:38 *	dub submits spam complaint
Apr 07 19:11:04 <deadweasel>	pretty sure that has a virus
Apr 07 19:12:23 <btcc100>	no its a gambling site
Apr 07 19:12:30 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 07 19:12:39 <deadweasel>	:D
Apr 07 19:12:42 <btcc100>	make up to 17x your bet, its easy, game
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Apr 07 19:12:58 <thestringpuller>	I'd rather gamble on the market
Apr 07 19:13:01 <deadweasel>	it's easy, game!
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Apr 07 19:13:17 <deadweasel>	finally an easy, game!
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Apr 07 19:16:59 <mjr___>	its an interesting idea for a game
Apr 07 19:19:59 <benkay>	im only interested in one game
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Apr 07 19:22:43 <dub>	I find browsing the net from american IPs quite unsettling
Apr 07 19:23:34 <benkay>	what's different?
Apr 07 19:23:45 <dub>	the ad bubble has a palpable craziness to it
Apr 07 19:23:59 <benkay>	bubble of advertising companies?
Apr 07 19:24:07 <dub>	targeted advertising
Apr 07 19:24:11 <benkay>	oh oh
Apr 07 19:24:20 <benkay>	"this one trick" etc?
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Apr 07 19:24:54 <dub>	from my home space I get adds for international travel, hotels and insurance
Apr 07 19:25:56 <dub>	via US I get offers of 'shocking footage' about chinese gold hoarding, anit-obama liberal agenda shit and emergency supplies
Apr 07 19:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	i can attest us adverising was always insane
Apr 07 19:26:52 <dub>	two anti-obama ads no less
Apr 07 19:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	in the 90s they were shockingly insane for the european mind
Apr 07 19:29:19 <dub>	this is for a website sample size of one admittedly
Apr 07 19:30:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7888 BTC [-]
Apr 07 19:30:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7889 = 3.1556 BTC [+]
Apr 07 19:31:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.789 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 19:45:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu so the BCB is the bitcoin illuminati
Apr 07 19:45:27 <thestringpuller>	that's pretty cool
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Apr 07 19:50:40 <thestringpuller>	!ticker ^OIX
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Apr 07 19:50:40 <assbot>	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
Apr 07 19:50:43 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 07 19:50:44 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 109.52216404 / 136.8194837 / 153.12818005 (23843 shares, 5,904.78 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 07 19:52:22 <mjr___>	anyone know a good way to track bitcoin activity in kinda small areas
Apr 07 19:52:30 <mjr___>	specifically the dominican republic
Apr 07 19:55:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01797 BTC [-]
Apr 07 19:55:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01797 BTC [-]
Apr 07 19:55:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.017979 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 19:57:27 <dub>	DR is a big kiddy sex tourism place, expect bitcoin to be popular
Apr 07 19:58:05 <Troic>	buy / bribe data from exchanges ?
Apr 07 19:58:16 <mjr___>	lol
Apr 07 19:58:27 <mjr___>	its just close to the US, and I have some family there
Apr 07 19:58:48 <dub>	surely Bruce Wagner has a network there, offer up somelittle boy butt
Apr 07 19:59:37 <dub>	its a popular place for the NANOG conf for above reasons
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Apr 07 20:00:56 <deadweasel>	NANOG?
Apr 07 20:01:14 <deadweasel>	is that nambla from south park?
Apr 07 20:01:21 <Namworld>	over 160 USD/BTC...
Apr 07 20:01:26 <Namworld>	where is the end to all this?
Apr 07 20:01:50 <kakobrekla>	no end
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Apr 07 20:02:29 <Bowjob>	Oh wow. this picture won something
Apr 07 20:02:30 <Bowjob>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136402734766.jpg
Apr 07 20:02:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00151 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 20:02:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00151 = 0.003 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:02:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 500 @ 0.0015 = 0.75 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 20:04:24 <thestringpuller>	!ticker b bitvps
Apr 07 20:04:24 <assbot>	Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Apr 07 20:04:30 <thestringpuller>	!ticker btctc bitvps
Apr 07 20:04:32 <assbot>	[BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: 0.00131 / 0.00153 / 0.0025 (521 shares, 0.8 BTC),  7D: 0.00131 / 0.00221 / 0.00637 (3082 shares, 6.8 BTC), 30D: 0.00131 / 0.00311 / 0.00689 (4682 shares, 14.6 BTC)
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Apr 07 20:07:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78997 BTC [+]
Apr 07 20:13:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5552 @ 0.0006474 = 3.5944 BTC [+]
Apr 07 20:13:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.78997 = 7.8997 BTC [+]
Apr 07 20:14:11 <thestringpuller>	oh wow S.MPOE plummetted again
Apr 07 20:14:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Apr 07 20:14:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064063 / 0.00065874 / 0.00070715 (216398 shares, 142.55 BTC), 7D: 0.00059218 / 0.00067314 / 0.00071514 (1740073 shares, 1,171.32 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069061 / 0.00077505 (8844010 shares, 6,107.81 BTC)
Apr 07 20:14:25 <thestringpuller>	;;seen burnside
Apr 07 20:14:25 <gribble>	burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <burnside> not sure what'cha mean.  (286 remember.)
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Apr 07 20:17:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 19 @ 0.0042 = 0.0798 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:18:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 07 20:18:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 163.83639, Best ask: 163.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05361, Last trade: 163.89000, 24 hour volume: 60953.30417683, 24 hour low: 142.70000, 24 hour high: 164.90000, 24 hour vwap: 154.33445
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Apr 07 20:25:04 <ThickAsThieves>	Just saw the author name on a Wordpress Plugin in one of my client's sites "Ciprian Popescu"
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Apr 07 20:25:30 <ThickAsThieves>	Romanians have cool first names
Apr 07 20:25:40 <ThickAsThieves>	or is the first name the last?
Apr 07 20:26:04 <Bowjob>	Ah, i didnt win anything from the rape contest. shoulda paid more attention to photoshop class lol
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Apr 07 20:26:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.78997 = 23.6991 BTC [+]
Apr 07 20:28:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009916 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:29:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.78997 = 1.5799 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 20:30:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 98 @ 0.01 = 0.98 BTC [+]
Apr 07 20:31:20 <Namworld>	Any BTC-BOND holders?
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Apr 07 20:32:55 <thestringpuller>	what is btc-bond?
Apr 07 20:34:03 <thestringpuller>	oh that
Apr 07 20:35:05 <ThickAsThieves>	closing it out Nam?
Apr 07 20:36:17 <Namworld>	Well at least partially...
Apr 07 20:36:27 <thestringpuller>	has it grown at all
Apr 07 20:36:40 <mjr___>	lol Emma Harriet
Apr 07 20:36:43 <Namworld>	It went down from 0.09 BTC daily to 0.06 daily in interest, about 1/3rd already bought back
Apr 07 20:36:45 <mjr___>	what a troll
Apr 07 20:37:05 <kakobrekla>	o looky mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170007.0
Apr 07 20:37:12 <Namworld>	but with BTC price increase, that 0.06 is still 10 USD daily.
Apr 07 20:37:56 <mircea_popescu>	"Pachter thinks that could increase to 100 million nights "eventually"—at which point it could be generating $1 billion a year in revenues.
Apr 07 20:38:09 <mircea_popescu>	really business insider is the most ignorant piece of shit out there.
Apr 07 20:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like bitcoin magazine for fiat.
Apr 07 20:39:08 <Namworld>	Let's just say that the debt in USD value is already at 35k USD which I'd be quite hard pressed to be able to purchase that much in BTC. I have over half that in free BTC and much more in BTC assets however.
Apr 07 20:39:31 <Namworld>	Would just like to close a part of it before anything happens to my BTC investments. Better be safe than have to default if everything goes bust.
Apr 07 20:39:39 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu i used AirBNB to throw a party
Apr 07 20:39:50 <thestringpuller>	I made like a 1000 bucks easy
Apr 07 20:39:50 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 07 20:39:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00301846 = 0.7546 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	heh okay.
Apr 07 20:40:45 <thestringpuller>	it's good for venue finding, but it's bubble-fied unfortunately
Apr 07 20:40:48 <thestringpuller>	like kickstarter :P
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Apr 07 20:45:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78997 BTC [+]
Apr 07 20:45:49 <kakobrekla>	ohoho! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170003.0
Apr 07 20:46:24 <kakobrekla>	even has a yt vid.
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Apr 07 20:48:56 <Scrat>	kakobrekla: what in the mother of fuck
Apr 07 20:49:06 <kakobrekla>	i know right.
Apr 07 20:49:19 <mod6>	haha
Apr 07 20:50:00 <Scrat>	managed to engrish every phrase in his video
Apr 07 20:54:06 <kakobrekla>	jeez and all the copyright signes
Apr 07 20:54:15 <kakobrekla>	i bet he hasnt got a copyright on that name
Apr 07 20:54:26 <kakobrekla>	fuckin idiot
Apr 07 20:57:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 11 @ 0.14 = 1.54 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:57:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.137 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:57:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.135 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:57:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.131 = 0.262 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:57:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.1301 = 0.5204 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:57:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.130011 = 1.3001 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:57:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.13001 = 0.26 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:57:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.12632 = 1.2632 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:57:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:57:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.11992 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:58:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.79398 = 3.9699 BTC [+]
Apr 07 20:58:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 27 @ 0.11712 = 3.1622 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:58:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79399 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 20:58:42 <mjr___>	http://i.imgur.com/YdMhU.gif lol
Apr 07 20:59:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01053 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:59:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.01052 = 0.0842 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:59:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.0105 = 0.525 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:59:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.01001 = 1.001 BTC [-]
Apr 07 20:59:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.01 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Apr 07 21:00:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.79499 = 19.8748 BTC [+]
Apr 07 21:01:08 <Namworld>	@mjr___ Where is that? Also, I need to disguise myself as a woman. With a bucket-hat.
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Apr 07 21:02:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.795 BTC [+]
Apr 07 21:02:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.795 = 3.975 BTC [+]
Apr 07 21:04:15 <Namworld>	Alternatively, conquer territories.
Apr 07 21:04:22 <Namworld>	Works too
Apr 07 21:06:23 <thestringpuller>	who lists asicminer?
Apr 07 21:07:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00301 = 0.009 BTC [-]
Apr 07 21:08:03 <thestringpuller>	oh yea no one
Apr 07 21:08:04 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Apr 07 21:08:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.00104 = 0.0031 BTC [-]
Apr 07 21:09:24 <Namworld>	what?
Apr 07 21:10:53 <Namworld>	We need ovh.com support =/
Apr 07 21:10:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [-]
Apr 07 21:11:00 <Namworld>	To have USD prices
Apr 07 21:11:04 <mjr___>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bv8tl/hypothetical_fed_action/ interesting hypothetical...would love to see what others think
Apr 07 21:12:16 <mjr___>	think i need bugpowder to look at this...his cup of tea
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Apr 07 21:14:57 <mjr___>	;;ticker
Apr 07 21:14:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 169.25000, Best ask: 169.25999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 169.25999, 24 hour volume: 63866.54519861, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 169.99000, 24 hour vwap: 155.33541
Apr 07 21:14:59 <mjr___>	FFS
Apr 07 21:15:12 <mjr___>	weekend spike?
Apr 07 21:15:57 <Bowjob>	I guess. No more weekend dip
Apr 07 21:16:07 <mjr___>	yep
Apr 07 21:16:10 <mjr___>	ah the good old days
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Apr 07 21:16:31 <Bowjob>	Well, this will be part of the "good ole days" too
Apr 07 21:16:33 <mjr___>	back in my day sonny, you could buy a bitcoin for $20
Apr 07 21:16:39 <mjr___>	hehehe JK
Apr 07 21:16:44 <Bowjob>	when bitcoin was only $169  a pop
Apr 07 21:16:48 <mjr___>	true
Apr 07 21:17:15 <Bowjob>	"Back in my days, bitcoin was only $1000 bucks each!"
Apr 07 21:17:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4319 @ 0.00065975 = 2.8495 BTC [+]
Apr 07 21:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 987 @ 0.00064555 = 0.6372 BTC [-]
Apr 07 21:17:29 <mjr___>	if no one read the article...it was a theoretical about a fed program to pump and dump btc
Apr 07 21:17:39 <mjr___>	and would that work to destablize it enough
Apr 07 21:17:43 <mjr___>	to kill it
Apr 07 21:17:45 <mjr___>	i say no
Apr 07 21:18:01 <Bowjob>	we'll all be rich elites by then
Apr 07 21:18:09 <mjr___>	i welcome anyone who wants to buy high and sell low into this market
Apr 07 21:18:20 <Bowjob>	I'll be on my quest to death by pussy
Apr 07 21:18:22 <mjr___>	ATH
Apr 07 21:18:29 <Bowjob>	and meet satan himself
Apr 07 21:18:32 <mjr___>	Bowjob: THIS
Apr 07 21:18:35 <Bowjob>	pay him some bitcoins to be my bitch
Apr 07 21:19:00 <mjr___>	hmmm, i think i may start blogging tomorrow
Apr 07 21:19:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 21:19:07 <mjr___>	specifically the new tower of babel
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Apr 07 21:21:06 <Bowjob>	Ah I got an idea.. from that ounce.me kickstarted project
Apr 07 21:21:17 <Bowjob>	a good index would be.. an MPEX buttprobe index
Apr 07 21:21:37 <Bowjob>	how would it would cost to pay someone $220 to stick a sharpie upp their ass
Apr 07 21:22:06 <Bowjob>	Right now it wold cost under 2 BTC.. umm.. it used to be 10 BTC
Apr 07 21:22:13 <Bowjob>	to shove a sharpie up someones ass
Apr 07 21:22:18 <Bowjob>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao/
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Apr 07 21:22:44 <mjr___>	i clicked on some link earlier and was wondering why i saw a bunch of people with sharpies in their asses
Apr 07 21:22:49 <mjr___>	was it pay per sharpie?
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Apr 07 21:23:34 <Bowjob>	nah
Apr 07 21:23:36 <mjr___>	by the way, i think someone is way overpowering...$50 tops
Apr 07 21:23:42 <mjr___>	overpaying
Apr 07 21:23:48 <Bowjob>	overpaying for what
Apr 07 21:23:53 <Bowjob>	the buttsharpie?
Apr 07 21:24:00 <mjr___>	were those people not paid for sticking sharpies up their ass?
Apr 07 21:24:17 <Bowjob>	nah, it was a troll
Apr 07 21:24:23 <mjr___>	oh ok
Apr 07 21:24:30 <Bowjob>	MPOE bought him outt
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Apr 07 21:25:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.79 = 2.37 BTC [+]
Apr 07 21:25:30 <mjr___>	tomorrow is going to be an interesting day
Apr 07 21:26:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00337 BTC [+]
Apr 07 21:27:12 <mjr___>	think mpex should just get options up to 1000 so we don't have to change them every month lol
Apr 07 21:27:23 <mod6>	nikkei already up 2.47%
Apr 07 21:27:55 <mjr___>	i think s&p, dow, nikkei etc are all just showing inflation in real time
Apr 07 21:28:05 <mjr___>	which is good
Apr 07 21:29:10 <mjr___>	geez
Apr 07 21:29:30 <mjr___>	bitcoin, you don't feel like a little breather do you?
Apr 07 21:30:21 <mjr___>	amazon ec2 profitable in around $80
Apr 07 21:31:33 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --high
Apr 07 21:31:33 <gribble>	170.05000
Apr 07 21:31:38 <Namworld>	O.o
Apr 07 21:31:50 <mjr___>	that aint the high
Apr 07 21:32:03 <mjr___>	172.39
Apr 07 21:32:11 <Namworld>	lol... ec2 being profitable...
Apr 07 21:32:16 <mjr___>	i know right
Apr 07 21:32:23 <mjr___>	i should set the instance up just in case
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Apr 07 21:32:40 <mjr___>	so i can bring it up whenever it gets there
Apr 07 21:32:50 <kakobrekla>	mining?
Apr 07 21:33:46 <mjr___>	it is profitable at $250
Apr 07 21:35:30 <Namworld>	at 250$ I get 0.116131 USD hourly
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Apr 07 21:35:48 <Namworld>	vs 2.10 USD per hour costs...
Apr 07 21:35:56 <mjr___>	that is on the GPU cluster?
Apr 07 21:35:56 <Namworld>	We need 5k USD/BTC
Apr 07 21:36:11 <Namworld>	yeah, GPU cluster
Apr 07 21:36:15 <mjr___>	hmmm
Apr 07 21:36:17 <Namworld>	I read they do 170 mhash/s
Apr 07 21:36:28 <Namworld>	They're Nvidia after all =/
Apr 07 21:36:30 <mjr___>	gotta do more research, also depends on if you use spot instances
Apr 07 21:36:33 <mjr___>	i know
Apr 07 21:36:36 <mjr___>	i wonder if...
Apr 07 21:36:48 <kakobrekla>	pigeons lol wtf you doing in the trollbox
Apr 07 21:36:52 <mjr___>	could you rework the implementation to make it run better on nvidia hardware
Apr 07 21:36:55 <kakobrekla>	also pigeons that is broken :(
Apr 07 21:37:27 <pigeons>	kakobrekla: they won't notice
Apr 07 21:37:42 <kakobrekla>	i think its tied to the exchange that doest exist anymore or something
Apr 07 21:37:46 <kakobrekla>	bitparking
Apr 07 21:37:49 <pigeons>	yep
Apr 07 21:38:09 <pigeons>	i dont give out working links for free
Apr 07 21:38:15 <mjr___>	hahaha
Apr 07 21:38:16 <kakobrekla>	lolz
Apr 07 21:39:14 <mjr___>	copumpkin: i tweeted at saurik today (i actually need to buy some apps) and i wish they had btc, i hate setting up cc etc
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Apr 07 21:46:53 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --high
Apr 07 21:46:53 <gribble>	173.50000
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Apr 07 21:48:41 <ThickAssLaptop>	;;ticker
Apr 07 21:48:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 173.10000, Best ask: 173.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 173.10000, 24 hour volume: 67452.87340175, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 173.74999, 24 hour vwap: 156.37949
Apr 07 21:48:50 <ThickAssLaptop>	wow
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Apr 07 21:51:30 <mjr___>	new ATH
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Apr 07 21:52:11 <mjr___>	lol, i turned on my gpu at home...29 mh for the win
Apr 07 21:53:41 <mjr___>	getting close to 2 billion
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Apr 07 21:54:22 <Bugpowder>	ROLL TIDE!
Apr 07 21:54:24 <Bowjob>	I hang around on gamefaqs forums, everyone is so anti btc there
Apr 07 21:54:40 <jcpham>	really Bugpowder
Apr 07 21:54:43 <Bugpowder>	mircera better make another blog post otherwise we are gonna hit 200
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Apr 07 21:54:53 <Bugpowder>	CALLLSSSSS
Apr 07 21:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-]
Apr 07 21:55:28 <Bowjob>	"Your first post in this topic indicates a sheer level of ignorance that explaining to you would be akin to explaining how bitcoin works to a moron.. oh wait. I will however send you an invitation to plug your butt with a pen for $200.00"
Apr 07 21:55:36 <Bugpowder>	$174
Apr 07 21:55:39 <Bowjob>	Awesome
Apr 07 21:55:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 50 @ 0.12239966 = 6.12 BTC [+]
Apr 07 21:55:44 <Bugpowder>	I just spent $10,000 on a couch
Apr 07 21:55:53 <Bowjob>	nice
Apr 07 21:55:57 <Bugpowder>	wheeeee
Apr 07 21:56:08 <Bugpowder>	its really nice though to be honest
Apr 07 21:56:10 <Bowjob>	i just called out 9k usd in profits. i should be good for a while
Apr 07 21:56:12 <Bowjob>	pics
Apr 07 21:56:21 <mjr___>	hahaha
Apr 07 21:56:22 <Bugpowder>	8-10weeks delivery
Apr 07 21:56:24 <Bowjob>	i just want some fucking pizza.
Apr 07 21:56:54 <Bowjob>	i am so numb about bitcoins price now, i dont give a shit anymore
Apr 07 21:57:08 <mjr___>	me too
Apr 07 21:57:26 <Bowjob>	i used to be.. omfg. im gonna be rich!!!
Apr 07 21:57:43 <mjr___>	it seems inevitable now
Apr 07 21:57:54 <mjr___>	to me at least, i agree with mircea that we don't need dumb money in the game
Apr 07 21:57:59 <Bowjob>	know a days.. "I know I'll be rich, I better STFU now or my friendcount will rise exponentially."
Apr 07 21:58:04 <Bowjob>	(now
Apr 07 21:58:10 <mjr___>	^^^^true
Apr 07 21:58:17 <thestringpuller>	Bowjob: aren't you the one who is using btc as a ponzi?
Apr 07 21:58:21 <mjr___>	friend bubble?
Apr 07 21:58:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C158T] 10 @ 0.17021391 = 1.7021 BTC [+]
Apr 07 21:58:26 <Bowjob>	nah
Apr 07 21:58:26 <Bugpowder>	http://proxy05.homedesigner.boconcept.com/renderimages/08042013_035806_5162242e691945.86060362.jpg
Apr 07 21:58:32 <Bowjob>	im keeping this shit for keeps
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Apr 07 21:58:36 <Bowjob>	i used to though
Apr 07 21:58:39 <mjr___>	tulip mania of friends
Apr 07 21:58:39 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: is it a good time to buy calls yet?
Apr 07 21:58:52 <thestringpuller>	This is gonna burst unless the money rushing in is here to stay
Apr 07 21:58:57 <Bugpowder>	it is an incredible time to buy calls!
Apr 07 21:59:09 <mjr___>	Bugpowder: did you look at the article i mentioned earlier? about the fed trying to drive price down and what would happen?
Apr 07 21:59:10 <Bugpowder>	maybe the best time ever to buy calls
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Apr 07 21:59:19 <Bugpowder>	mjr I didn't see your link
Apr 07 21:59:20 <thestringpuller>	Okay hold on Bugpowder I will PM you in a second
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Apr 07 21:59:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C128T] 10 @ 0.31384179 = 3.1384 BTC
Apr 07 21:59:48 <Bugpowder>	 Its not even monday in america yet
Apr 07 21:59:55 <mjr___>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bv8tl/hypothetical_fed_action/
Apr 07 22:00:15 <Bugpowder>	and we are already up 20%
Apr 07 22:00:23 <Bugpowder>	Shit is about to get fucking cray cray
Apr 07 22:00:32 <mjr___>	yep
Apr 07 22:00:50 <mjr___>	lol bitfloor cheaper than gox
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Apr 07 22:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 8 @ 0.28641403 = 2.2913 BTC
Apr 07 22:01:51 <Bowjob>	am i the only one who calculates prices of stuff in btc
Apr 07 22:01:56 <Bowjob>	like, at the grocery, ect
Apr 07 22:02:00 <mjr___>	hahaha
Apr 07 22:02:03 <Bowjob>	makes for a fine mental exercise
Apr 07 22:02:24 <Bowjob>	i dunnit eating out. "huh, i spent the equivalent of a BTC today"
Apr 07 22:02:34 <mjr___>	i would say, right now i am trying to adjust into mBtc mentality
Apr 07 22:02:39 <Bowjob>	"0.01 samosasn, not bad"
Apr 07 22:02:41 <mjr___>	wish we could refer to everything in satoshi
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Apr 07 22:02:58 <Bowjob>	700k satoshis for a piece of bread?
Apr 07 22:03:01 <Bowjob>	outrageous!
Apr 07 22:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.385 = 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 07 22:03:36 <mjr___>	i just dislike decimal places a lot
Apr 07 22:04:13 <mjr___>	but seriuosly, a lot of sites need to adjust their lowest withdrawal limit
Apr 07 22:04:25 <Bowjob>	how about we use scientific notation?
Apr 07 22:04:25 <mjr___>	i left a couple hundred thousand satoshi lying around
Apr 07 22:04:45 <mjr___>	i think i have 2 x 10^-6 satoshi on btc-e
Apr 07 22:04:56 <Bowjob>	NO
Apr 07 22:04:58 <Bowjob>	FAIL
Apr 07 22:05:11 <mjr___>	is that not it?
Apr 07 22:05:15 <Bowjob>	you mean BTC
Apr 07 22:05:23 <mjr___>	ah yes true
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Apr 07 22:05:28 <Bowjob>	satoshi means, even smaller than 1 satoshi
Apr 07 22:05:30 <Bowjob>	!!
Apr 07 22:05:31 <mjr___>	true
Apr 07 22:05:31 <Bowjob>	bad. fix it
Apr 07 22:05:32 <Bowjob>	lol
Apr 07 22:05:34 <mjr___>	good point
Apr 07 22:05:43 <Bugpowder>	Investment update. http://imgur.com/kKYXzhv
Apr 07 22:05:44 <mjr___>	2 x 10^-6 btc
Apr 07 22:05:51 <Bowjob>	much better
Apr 07 22:06:10 <Bowjob>	but, i admit im not used to thinking in scientific notations.. its been too long since i took chem
Apr 07 22:06:40 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 07 22:06:47 <mjr___>	decimals beyond two places are not natural to me yet
Apr 07 22:07:10 <mjr___>	lol this is the funnest trading ever
Apr 07 22:07:21 <mjr___>	just wait till traders get to this in a real way
Apr 07 22:07:36 <Bugpowder>	ok I gotta go back to da party
Apr 07 22:07:37 <mjr___>	...prob have a stabilizing effect, but for a while it would be like christmas every day for them
Apr 07 22:08:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.795 BTC [+]
Apr 07 22:08:27 <mjr___>	what is it...around 190 we reach 2 billion?
Apr 07 22:08:42 <Bugpowder>	182
Apr 07 22:08:51 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 2/11
Apr 07 22:08:52 <gribble>	0.181818181818
Apr 07 22:08:53 <mjr___>	nice, thats break even on my options
Apr 07 22:09:01 <Bowjob>	2 billion is basically a fart in bernanke's direction.
Apr 07 22:09:07 <Bowjob>	try 85 billion per month
Apr 07 22:09:12 <mjr___>	his general direction i believe
Apr 07 22:09:38 <Bowjob>	yeah, his general direction from a different galaxy
Apr 07 22:09:39 <mjr___>	how can i tip him though?
Apr 07 22:09:48 <mjr___>	we owe him a debt of gratitude
Apr 07 22:10:02 <mjr___>	i want to send a few millibits his way and tell him to keep up the good work
Apr 07 22:10:10 <Bugpowder>	ok dudes.  VEGAS
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Apr 07 22:10:22 <Bugpowder>	If we hit 300 this month.
Apr 07 22:10:32 <Bugpowder>	I'm getting the 180 suite.
Apr 07 22:10:33 <mjr___>	sounds like a plan
Apr 07 22:10:37 <Bugpowder>	we hit it up.
Apr 07 22:10:41 <mjr___>	hahaha, which hotel? bellagio?
Apr 07 22:10:52 <mjr___>	thats my fave...
Apr 07 22:11:03 <Bugpowder>	https://redrock.sclv.com/en/Hotel/180-Suite.aspx
Apr 07 22:11:07 <Bugpowder>	off strip
Apr 07 22:11:12 <Bugpowder>	but best suite in vegas.
Apr 07 22:11:28 <Bugpowder>	look at that fucking view
Apr 07 22:11:32 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 07 22:11:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C164T] 10 @ 0.18075944 = 1.8076 BTC [+]
Apr 07 22:11:38 <mjr___>	but off strip?
Apr 07 22:11:49 <mjr___>	guess we need some excuse for the rental ferraris
Apr 07 22:11:53 <Bugpowder>	yeah they have a chauffeur for wherever you want to go
Apr 07 22:11:54 <mjr___>	lol
Apr 07 22:11:55 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 07 22:11:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 171.68992, Best ask: 172.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.81008, Last trade: 172.50000, 24 hour volume: 69695.04368585, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 174.41999, 24 hour vwap: 156.95309
Apr 07 22:12:24 <mjr___>	i spent christmas eve in vegas last year
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Apr 07 22:12:27 <mjr___>	it was miserable for me
Apr 07 22:12:52 <Bugpowder>	that sounds like a depressing time for vegas.
Apr 07 22:13:00 <Bugpowder>	n e way…  back to party!
Apr 07 22:13:03 <Bugpowder>	laters.
Apr 07 22:13:04 <mjr___>	have fun
Apr 07 22:13:15 <mjr___>	i have no clue what i'll wake up to tomorrow
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Apr 07 22:15:28 <mjr___>	how many bitcoins is an army of unsullied?
Apr 07 22:15:38 <mjr___>	dragon/btc exchange rate...anyone
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Apr 07 22:16:02 <mjr___>	FUCK, 151 btc at 171
Apr 07 22:16:09 <mjr___>	i think someone is moving in
Apr 07 22:16:22 <thestringpuller>	no not yet
Apr 07 22:16:52 <thestringpuller>	right now there is too much mania
Apr 07 22:16:56 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 07 22:16:56 <thestringpuller>	people need to stop buying
Apr 07 22:16:57 <mjr___>	its crazy
Apr 07 22:17:15 <mjr___>	its entertaining, but i don't think that this will really hurt it
Apr 07 22:17:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 345 @ 0.28950865 = 99.8805 BTC [+]
Apr 07 22:17:34 <mjr___>	too many waiting for it to drop
Apr 07 22:17:50 <mjr___>	;;bids 0
Apr 07 22:17:50 <gribble>	There are currently 31225406 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11467349.3209 USD in total. | Data vintage: 108.5117 seconds
Apr 07 22:18:25 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 165
Apr 07 22:18:28 <gribble>	There are currently 2221.2828 bitcoins demanded at or over 165.0 USD, worth 373241.273808 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0047 seconds
Apr 07 22:18:41 <mjr___>	;;goxlag
Apr 07 22:18:41 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 07 22:18:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 180
Apr 07 22:18:47 <gribble>	There are currently 2774.1594 bitcoins offered at or under 180.0 USD, worth 491589.541433 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.8623 seconds
Apr 07 22:19:32 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 07 22:19:33 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 156.03
Apr 07 22:20:45 <mjr___>	i've become jaded...wake me up when we move the decimal place to the right or left
Apr 07 22:20:52 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 07 22:21:25 <mjr___>	;;calc 11*182
Apr 07 22:21:25 <gribble>	2002
Apr 07 22:21:28 <ThickAsThieves>	when mp wakes up he'll have to write another Bitoin is not worth $180 you sonofabitches post
Apr 07 22:21:34 <mjr___>	hehehe
Apr 07 22:21:36 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 07 22:21:42 <mjr___>	i was surprised at his toast earlier today
Apr 07 22:21:53 <ThickAsThieves>	toast?
Apr 07 22:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.925 BTC [-]
Apr 07 22:22:34 <mjr___>	Here's a cheer to the new all time high. #Bitcoin ftw.
Apr 07 22:22:47 <mjr___>	that was his tweet this morning (US Time)
Apr 07 22:23:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.208 = 2.416 BTC [+]
Apr 07 22:24:30 <splnkr>	;;asks 999999999999
Apr 07 22:24:33 <gribble>	There are currently 39511.567 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999999.0 USD, worth 1.42183854118e+12 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
Apr 07 22:26:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.0029 = 10.15 BTC [-]
Apr 07 22:26:55 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --high
Apr 07 22:26:56 <gribble>	174.41999
Apr 07 22:28:14 <ll>	!t h kcim
Apr 07 22:28:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:KCIM] 1D: 1.19000000 / 1.20028571 / 1.20800000 (7 shares, 8.40200000 BTC), 7D: 1.00000000 / 1.12052 / 1.20800000 (40 shares, 44.82080011 BTC), 30D: 0.99500000 / 1.14697597 / 1.48000000 (184 shares, 211.04357811 BTC)
Apr 07 22:28:50 <mjr___>	namworld is buying back bonds
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Apr 07 22:31:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C137T] 20 @ 0.27704836 = 5.541 BTC [+]
Apr 07 22:31:53 <mjr___>	great analogy about amazon trading at $86 during the .com bubble
Apr 07 22:32:08 <mjr___>	that didn't work out to well...it crashed all the way upward to $225 now
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Apr 07 22:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 10 @ 0.25241935 = 2.5242 BTC [+]
Apr 07 22:33:46 <thestringpuller>	are those calls that are being sold?
Apr 07 22:33:56 <thestringpuller>	yea
Apr 07 22:33:58 <thestringpuller>	hmm
Apr 07 22:34:03 <thestringpuller>	just wow
Apr 07 22:34:04 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 07 22:34:13 <mjr___>	hehehee
Apr 07 22:34:20 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 07 22:34:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 108.7315223 / 137.42463317 / 154.14122078 (24506 shares, 6,044.57 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 07 22:34:33 <thestringpuller>	OIX hasn't caughtup
Apr 07 22:34:36 <mjr___>	LOL
Apr 07 22:34:45 <thestringpuller>	srsly that's usually a bad sign
Apr 07 22:35:03 <mjr___>	my calls have almost broken even on the market
Apr 07 22:35:05 <thestringpuller>	nearly everytime OIX diverges from 24hprc it collapses in a few ticks
Apr 07 22:35:19 <mjr___>	hmmm
Apr 07 22:35:23 <mjr___>	i don't think that will happen this time
Apr 07 22:35:39 <mjr___>	i think people are just getting to their desks this morning with freshly cleared accounts
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Apr 07 22:35:58 <mjr___>	and i think some of those guys have quite deep pockets due to cnbc et al last week
Apr 07 22:36:05 <mjr___>	but that is just idle speculation
Apr 07 22:36:38 <mjr___>	i think you see some crazy volume, crazy price swings, new highs to close the day
Apr 07 22:36:44 <thestringpuller>	mjr___: what is your stake in coins?
Apr 07 22:36:51 <mjr___>	around 30 or so
Apr 07 22:36:58 <thestringpuller>	no no I meant
Apr 07 22:37:02 <thestringpuller>	what is it you do
Apr 07 22:37:09 <mjr___>	ah, well...i work in fincance
Apr 07 22:37:11 <mjr___>	finance
Apr 07 22:37:12 <thestringpuller>	business-wise
Apr 07 22:37:24 <thestringpuller>	would you ever use btc in your daily business?
Apr 07 22:37:25 <mjr___>	specifically i work at this company
Apr 07 22:37:28 <mjr___>	wtfg.com
Apr 07 22:37:34 <mjr___>	in the technology division
Apr 07 22:37:38 <mjr___>	and no, we never do
Apr 07 22:37:43 <mjr___>	we can't actually yet
Apr 07 22:37:45 <thestringpuller>	so you're a financial consultant?
Apr 07 22:37:55 <mjr___>	no...just a tech guy working at a finance firm
Apr 07 22:38:03 <mjr___>	but i am putting together the best exchange the btc world has ever seen
Apr 07 22:38:12 <thestringpuller>	fiat?
Apr 07 22:38:13 <mjr___>	though it isn't really primarily for them
Apr 07 22:38:21 <mjr___>	USD/BTC
Apr 07 22:38:24 <thestringpuller>	yea
Apr 07 22:38:26 <thestringpuller>	that's good
Apr 07 22:38:27 <mjr___>	its for a forex provider
Apr 07 22:38:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 8 @ 0.2647526 = 2.118 BTC [+]
Apr 07 22:38:32 <mjr___>	using enterprise tech
Apr 07 22:38:46 <mjr___>	probably best in class that runs on off the shelf hardware
Apr 07 22:38:58 <mjr___>	next level up is custom servers with optimization ie. nasdaq nyse etc
Apr 07 22:39:15 <mjr___>	so trying to get forex guys to host a USD/BTC pair
Apr 07 22:39:25 <mjr___>	so they need reliable sources to offload liquidity
Apr 07 22:39:28 <mjr___>	and risk
Apr 07 22:39:52 <mjr___>	so in btcland, that is my "job", but in real life, just working for the man
Apr 07 22:39:58 <mjr___>	for now
Apr 07 22:40:29 <thestringpuller>	are you part of the BCB group?
Apr 07 22:40:35 <mjr___>	don't know who they are
Apr 07 22:40:38 <mjr___>	BCB?
Apr 07 22:40:45 <thestringpuller>	there are market makers on each exchange
Apr 07 22:40:50 <mjr___>	ah i don't know them
Apr 07 22:40:54 <thestringpuller>	I think they are all controlled by one entity
Apr 07 22:41:00 <mjr___>	but we are setting up a brand new exchange
Apr 07 22:41:04 <mjr___>	but it will be private at first
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Apr 07 22:41:13 <mjr___>	in fact, it'll just be fix connections to institutions
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Apr 07 22:41:32 <mjr___>	but hopefully eventually we can make it available to the public
Apr 07 22:41:40 <mjr___>	the problem is that i don't want to clear/settle
Apr 07 22:41:47 <mjr___>	just exchange
Apr 07 22:42:03 <thestringpuller>	that could be accomplished if you had a bank on board...
Apr 07 22:42:07 <mjr___>	so the institutions maintain their own accounts, and we deal with one entity
Apr 07 22:42:14 <mjr___>	they deal with 30k accounts
Apr 07 22:42:26 <mjr___>	so we don't have to touch the USD hopefully at first
Apr 07 22:42:32 <thestringpuller>	sounds like nasdaq but for btc/usd
Apr 07 22:42:36 <thestringpuller>	i hope it works out for you
Apr 07 22:42:39 <mjr___>	we'll see
Apr 07 22:42:44 <mjr___>	i've got the cloud server running
Apr 07 22:42:52 <mjr___>	should have it testing tomorrow
Apr 07 22:42:58 <mjr___>	software is configured etc
Apr 07 22:43:05 <mjr___>	this is just testnet of course
Apr 07 22:43:17 <mjr___>	but soon beta testing
Apr 07 22:43:34 <mjr___>	i'll hopefully open it up to everyone here
Apr 07 22:43:57 <mjr___>	can't wait to be able to work on cool shit everyday
Apr 07 22:43:59 <thestringpuller>	what I was getting at is that if the options don't catch up to the market and there is actually a bubble the big players will get very bearish and the price will decrease to what they want it to be
Apr 07 22:44:08 <mjr___>	good point
Apr 07 22:44:13 <mjr___>	but there are bear traps
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Apr 07 22:44:23 <thestringpuller>	yea it's called buyer's mania
Apr 07 22:44:28 <mjr___>	i agree
Apr 07 22:44:34 <mjr___>	but i think we are getting a new level of money arriving
Apr 07 22:44:43 <mjr___>	people who don't look at small caps
Apr 07 22:44:51 <mjr___>	but start waking up at mid caps
Apr 07 22:44:56 <thestringpuller>	I would say the two things driving buyers mania are the bitcoin store, bitcoinin
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Apr 07 22:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3811 = 1.1433 BTC [-]
Apr 07 22:45:04 <mjr___>	bitpay too
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Apr 07 22:45:09 <mjr___>	5 million last month
Apr 07 22:45:23 <thestringpuller>	bitpay is extension of existing vendors accepting bitcoin
Apr 07 22:45:33 <mjr___>	i also think that this will get crazy rapidly
Apr 07 22:45:41 <thestringpuller>	at the end of the day bitpay liquidates coins
Apr 07 22:45:54 <mjr___>	based on the expectation that big buyers are coming in
Apr 07 22:45:59 <mjr___>	i think a lot of asks will be pulled
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Apr 07 22:46:28 <mjr___>	why sell at 173 if you expect 180+
Apr 07 22:46:45 <mjr___>	and its self fulfilling because it takes very little to get there once those bids are gone
Apr 07 22:47:07 <thestringpuller>	the bids will disappear the issue is the flow of money
Apr 07 22:47:11 <mjr___>	i personally think there are going to be people with 10 million just to play around with
Apr 07 22:47:22 <mjr___>	for fun
Apr 07 22:47:26 <mjr___>	who could care less
Apr 07 22:47:26 <thestringpuller>	that's already happening, but the barrier to entry is exponential
Apr 07 22:47:30 <kakobrekla>	you should work with us mjr___ ... to slam it into MT4
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Apr 07 22:47:40 <mjr___>	that is the platform they use
Apr 07 22:47:45 <mjr___>	the issue is the pair
Apr 07 22:47:47 <thestringpuller>	;;market --buy --usd 1000000
Apr 07 22:47:47 <gribble>	A market order to buy 1000000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would buy 5478.2632 bitcoins and would take the last price up to 190.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 182.5396 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 11.1072 seconds
Apr 07 22:47:51 <mjr___>	and i'd love to talk more
Apr 07 22:47:56 <thestringpuller>	;;market --sell --usd 1000000
Apr 07 22:47:57 <gribble>	A market order to sell 1000000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would sell 6105.3502 bitcoins and would take the last price down to 156.0111 USD, resulting in an average price of 163.7908 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 20.3704 seconds
Apr 07 22:48:11 <kakobrekla>	i know the issues, kinda, i run bit4x.com dont ya know
Apr 07 22:48:19 <mjr___>	kakobrekla: more interested in the USD/BTC pair than in the account denomination
Apr 07 22:48:23 <mjr___>	yeah i know
Apr 07 22:48:28 <kakobrekla>	i know
Apr 07 22:48:30 <mjr___>	but they don't have the pair
Apr 07 22:48:36 <mjr___>	right?
Apr 07 22:48:39 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: you work on MT4?
Apr 07 22:48:42 <mjr___>	but we can definitely plug in with you
Apr 07 22:48:49 <mjr___>	the fx guys use mt4
Apr 07 22:48:55 <kakobrekla>	i have just leaked on forex manganates we are working on x/BTC
Apr 07 22:48:57 <mjr___>	for their 30k accounts
Apr 07 22:49:03 <kakobrekla>	magnates*
Apr 07 22:49:13 <mjr___>	someone will host them?
Apr 07 22:49:26 <mjr___>	ideally we will be a pool of liquidity for a these guys
Apr 07 22:49:38 <kakobrekla>	for who?
Apr 07 22:49:39 <mjr___>	internalizing as much as possible and dumping the rest
Apr 07 22:49:48 <mjr___>	;) big guys...not fxcm
Apr 07 22:49:54 <mjr___>	but still decently big
Apr 07 22:49:54 <kakobrekla>	im setting up both things
Apr 07 22:49:59 <mjr___>	pm time i think
Apr 07 22:50:05 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 07 22:50:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 07 22:50:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 173.02000, Best ask: 173.03300, Bid-ask spread: 0.01300, Last trade: 173.02000, 24 hour volume: 71464.22936160, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 174.47000, 24 hour vwap: 157.61616
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Apr 07 22:51:42 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 07 22:51:44 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 156.32
Apr 07 22:52:12 <ChaangNoi>	nice to wake up too
Apr 07 22:52:24 <ChaangNoi>	175 lulz
Apr 07 22:52:33 <ThickAsThieves>	insane huh
Apr 07 22:52:38 <ChaangNoi>	still sunday for most of you
Apr 07 22:52:41 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Apr 07 22:52:44 <ChaangNoi>	or weekend at least
Apr 07 22:52:51 <ChaangNoi>	200 on monday?
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Apr 07 22:52:57 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 200
Apr 07 22:53:00 <gribble>	There are currently 13531.812 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 2571493.43479 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Apr 07 22:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3811 BTC [-]
Apr 07 22:53:06 <ChaangNoi>	hmm
Apr 07 22:53:12 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe 195
Apr 07 22:53:24 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 195
Apr 07 22:53:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 195
Apr 07 22:53:24 <gribble>	There are currently 10341.121 bitcoins offered at or under 195.0 USD, worth 1937008.55079 USD in total. | Data vintage: 24.2795 seconds
Apr 07 22:53:25 <gribble>	There are currently 10341.121 bitcoins offered at or under 195.0 USD, worth 1937008.55079 USD in total. | Data vintage: 24.5402 seconds
Apr 07 22:53:42 <ChaangNoi>	!ticker asicminer
Apr 07 22:53:42 <assbot>	Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
Apr 07 22:53:52 <ChaangNoi>	shampoo
Apr 07 22:54:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.11901 BTC [+]
Apr 07 22:54:12 <ThickAsThieves>	its up  lil, like .78
Apr 07 22:54:18 <ChaangNoi>	cool
Apr 07 22:54:27 <ChaangNoi>	saw an extra th come online
Apr 07 22:54:38 <ChaangNoi>	would like to see the full 12 followed by 50 more
Apr 07 22:54:44 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Apr 07 22:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.38100001 = 1.524 BTC [-]
Apr 07 22:55:03 <ThickAsThieves>	althought with this price pattern, best invetsment is options :/
Apr 07 22:55:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.119 = 1.071 BTC [-]
Apr 07 22:55:33 <ChaangNoi>	i would have bought 200 calls yesterday but i was too lazy
Apr 07 22:55:36 <ChaangNoi>	to make an account
Apr 07 22:55:49 <ChaangNoi>	217 to get in the money
Apr 07 22:55:49 <ThickAsThieves>	"but i got high"
Apr 07 22:56:11 <ChaangNoi>	no traveling, and i had to go out and meet people, where i did then get sorta drunk
Apr 07 22:56:29 <ChaangNoi>	dont smoke, makes me a paranoid motherfucker
Apr 07 22:56:29 <ThickAsThieves>	this is in THailand?
Apr 07 22:56:33 <ChaangNoi>	yeah
Apr 07 22:56:42 <ThickAsThieves>	how long have you been there
Apr 07 22:56:46 <ChaangNoi>	8 years
Apr 07 22:56:55 <ThickAsThieves>	are you thai?
Apr 07 22:57:00 <ChaangNoi>	lol no
Apr 07 22:57:06 <ThickAsThieves>	didnt think so
Apr 07 22:57:14 <ThickAsThieves>	what brought you there?
Apr 07 22:57:21 <ChaangNoi>	bordum
Apr 07 22:57:31 <ChaangNoi>	i had been in mongolia and s korea
Apr 07 22:57:41 <ChaangNoi>	went here to help clear up the tsanomi
Apr 07 22:57:51 <ChaangNoi>	then was like,this place is awesome, so never really left
Apr 07 22:57:58 <ThickAsThieves>	interesting
Apr 07 22:58:30 <ChaangNoi>	i like it here. live like a king on no money
Apr 07 22:58:40 <ChaangNoi>	good food, beachs, clubs, women
Apr 07 22:59:03 <ChaangNoi>	the tax sucks on nice cars but other than that, pretty cool
Apr 07 23:00:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00066629 = 12.5596 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 23:01:01 <thestringpuller>	ChaangNoi, mah nigga
Apr 07 23:01:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ident
Apr 07 23:01:08 <gribble>	You are identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
Apr 07 23:01:18 <ChaangNoi>	lol what?
Apr 07 23:01:20 <thestringpuller>	;;rate ChaangNoi 1 spoken like a true capitalist
Apr 07 23:01:20 <gribble>	Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
Apr 07 23:01:30 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Apr 07 23:01:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 07 23:01:50 <ChaangNoi>	yeah im pretty much a crypto capatalist:)
Apr 07 23:02:26 <thestringpuller>	I may start selling coins soon if I can get money into the exchanges easier but I prefer to not deal with fiat
Apr 07 23:02:35 <thestringpuller>	everyone keeps asking me for coins
Apr 07 23:02:45 <ChaangNoi>	yeah,im starting to see that here
Apr 07 23:02:47 <ChaangNoi>	crazy
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Apr 07 23:03:09 <copumpkin>	ChaangNoi: I bet you wish you still had that gold coin
Apr 07 23:03:42 <copumpkin>	I should've snatched it from you and replaced it with a quarter
Apr 07 23:03:42 <ChaangNoi>	i bought it back about 2 months after i sold it
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Apr 07 23:03:45 <copumpkin>	you would've never noticed
Apr 07 23:03:49 <ChaangNoi>	lol
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Apr 07 23:03:57 <copumpkin>	oh good
Apr 07 23:04:01 <ChaangNoi>	i was able to sell some stuff to get it back
Apr 07 23:04:08 <copumpkin>	so you have it now?
Apr 07 23:04:29 <ChaangNoi>	its in a safe somewhere in the usa i think
Apr 07 23:04:46 <copumpkin>	oh
Apr 07 23:04:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Apr 07 23:04:51 <ChaangNoi>	i kinda forgot about it, its long terms savings for me really
Apr 07 23:04:51 <copumpkin>	can you tell me where out of curiosity
Apr 07 23:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.381 = 2.667 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:05:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.38000001 = 1.9 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:05:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.38 = 5.7 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:05:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.361 = 6.498 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:05:20 <ChaangNoi>	haha, i sold it to a trusted guy and i think he still had it.  but yeah at $175, 000 i should check into that
Apr 07 23:05:34 <copumpkin>	yeah
Apr 07 23:05:45 <ChaangNoi>	the coins have not moved from the coin, at least like 2 weeks ago they had not
Apr 07 23:05:54 <ChaangNoi>	i mena its not been opened
Apr 07 23:06:35 <dub>	is this pirate booty
Apr 07 23:06:36 <copumpkin>	:)
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Apr 07 23:08:01 <ChaangNoi>	lol no
Apr 07 23:08:07 <ChaangNoi>	i lost my ass with pirate
Apr 07 23:08:14 <ChaangNoi>	and i almost did not recover
Apr 07 23:08:25 <ChaangNoi>	but i paid all my debts and was able to recover
Apr 07 23:08:33 <mjr___>	copumpkin: i tweeted at saurik today...i want to buy apps with btc already, such a good fit for different communities
Apr 07 23:08:39 <copumpkin>	mjr___: oh cool
Apr 07 23:08:41 <ChaangNoi>	i did not risk more than i could lose, just almost more than i could lose
Apr 07 23:08:46 <copumpkin>	mjr___: bug him moar!
Apr 07 23:08:52 <mjr___>	i will try
Apr 07 23:08:53 <ChaangNoi>	thank fuck i bought am stock
Apr 07 23:08:56 <ChaangNoi>	and ltc
Apr 07 23:08:57 <mjr___>	need more people
Apr 07 23:09:01 <copumpkin>	*moar
Apr 07 23:09:07 <mjr___>	so he'll think its worth it...or even better get big boss to ask
Apr 07 23:09:20 <mjr___>	he's a major part
Apr 07 23:09:47 <mjr___>	btc is the ideal way to do app purchases....99 cents
Apr 07 23:11:11 <ThickAsThieves>	as a money sink, which aspect of the economy do you think bitcoin buying mostly drains from?
Apr 07 23:11:23 <ThickAsThieves>	savings and checking accounts?
Apr 07 23:13:16 <Bowjob>	http://priceypads.com/vancouver-bc-vs-johns-creek-ga/
Apr 07 23:13:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 928 @ 0.00066633 = 0.6184 BTC [+]
Apr 07 23:13:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4772 @ 0.00066312 = 3.1644 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:13:33 <copumpkin>	mjr___: I just tried bugging a bit too
Apr 07 23:13:36 <copumpkin>	we'll see
Apr 07 23:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.37 = 11.47 BTC [+]
Apr 07 23:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.361 = 1.444 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:15:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.351 = 3.51 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:15:36 <dub>	Bowjob: second place is HIDEOUS
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Apr 07 23:16:02 <Bowjob>	ikr.
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Apr 07 23:22:25 <Bowjob>	I feel like chowing a lobster
Apr 07 23:22:29 <Bowjob>	nomnom
Apr 07 23:23:39 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Apr 07 23:26:12 <Bowjob>	aight im srs about this. fiat be damned. brrb
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Apr 07 23:28:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 426 @ 0.00066312 = 0.2825 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:29:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1974 @ 0.00066256 = 1.3079 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 23:32:03 <btcgames_>	if you wanna play some games while your waiting for bitcoins to make you richer, theres a new game where you can get up to 17 times your bet trying to get through a minefield!  http://www.satoshi-karoshi.com/?r=9059
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Apr 07 23:33:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00301 = 0.0211 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 23:35:36 <ThickAsThieves>	kakobreka, will you be adding more categories to bitbet soon?
Apr 07 23:36:08 <ThickAsThieves>	kakobrekla*
Apr 07 23:36:16 <kakobrekla>	bug mp
Apr 07 23:36:21 <kakobrekla>	and ill add
Apr 07 23:36:36 <ThickAsThieves>	who runs the site?
Apr 07 23:36:54 <kakobrekla>	in between
Apr 07 23:37:38 <ThickAsThieves>	are there unfunded bets now?
Apr 07 23:37:48 <ThickAsThieves>	http://bitbet.us/bet/382/someone-to-hit-25-home-runs-by-the/
Apr 07 23:37:55 <ThickAsThieves>	not sure if ive seen that b4
Apr 07 23:39:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11726 @ 0.00066256 = 7.7692 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:39:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5324 @ 0.00065773 = 3.5018 BTC [-]
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Apr 07 23:47:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 16 @ 0.1 = 1.6 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:49:53 <mjr___>	good night everone
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Apr 07 23:50:03 <mjr___>	if we could not give me a heartattack when i wake up...that'd be great
Apr 07 23:50:10 <ThickAsThieves>	168
Apr 07 23:50:15 <mjr___>	its only four hours
Apr 07 23:50:20 <ThickAsThieves>	167
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Apr 07 23:50:30 <ThickAsThieves>	166
Apr 07 23:50:33 <mjr___>	somewhere in 165-175 would be awesome lol
Apr 07 23:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.208 BTC [+]
Apr 07 23:51:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll see what i can do
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Apr 07 23:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.374 = 0.748 BTC [+]
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Apr 07 23:57:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5575 @ 0.00065773 = 3.6668 BTC [-]
Apr 07 23:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9175 @ 0.00065747 = 6.0323 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 00:01:03 <BitHub>	hey strangers
Apr 08 00:01:26 <BitHub>	anyone have asicminer shares? whats the expected div off 1 share?
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Apr 08 00:07:27 <dub>	there isn't one
Apr 08 00:08:13 <dub>	its 1/400000 of profits which, along with expenses, are not disclosed
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Apr 08 00:09:16 <BitHub>	ahh okey
Apr 08 00:09:36 <BitHub>	ill need to re look at that thread on bitcointalk
Apr 08 00:10:23 <dub>	all you'll learn are past divs which have essentially been random
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Apr 08 00:12:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 00:12:09 <gribble>	There are currently 31217105 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11581611.4759 USD in total. | Data vintage: 43.2004 seconds
Apr 08 00:12:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 00:12:36 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2.070347 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00414895220724 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Apr 08 00:13:16 <BitHub>	that's no good
Apr 08 00:13:25 <BitHub>	i thought were was some accounting involved somewhere
Apr 08 00:13:36 <BitHub>	im asking for a friend who wants to invest
Apr 08 00:13:43 <BitHub>	very hard to explain
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Apr 08 00:16:52 <dub>	the explanation is: china
Apr 08 00:17:05 <BitHub>	"just trust me"
Apr 08 00:17:06 <BitHub>	:P
Apr 08 00:17:30 <dub>	don't expect reason, honesty, consistency or really anything at all
Apr 08 00:17:48 <BitHub>	okey, thanks for the tip :)
Apr 08 00:17:50 <dub>	well you can probably expect to be confused
Apr 08 00:18:10 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124391.msg1357682#msg1357682
Apr 08 00:18:19 <BitHub>	i thought they were a bit more organized than that now
Apr 08 00:18:19 <dub>	I wish this guy would get drunk and stab usagi to death
Apr 08 00:18:25 <BitHub>	lul
Apr 08 00:18:31 <dub>	like he did with the old lady
Apr 08 00:18:58 <BitHub>	ahh bitcoin oz
Apr 08 00:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.374 = 0.748 BTC [+]
Apr 08 00:19:55 <BitHub>	which usagi business close down?
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Apr 08 00:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.33443 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.33250875 = 2.6601 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:44:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30004 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:44:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30003 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:44:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30002 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:44:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30001 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:44:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3 = 6 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:46:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.795 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 00:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.93 = 9.65 BTC [+]
Apr 08 00:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 27 @ 0.3 = 8.1 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:54:18 <Namworld>	Well that's just great... stupid VTX
Apr 08 00:56:57 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 08 00:56:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 170.02001, Best ask: 170.19900, Bid-ask spread: 0.17899, Last trade: 170.19900, 24 hour volume: 77328.70931416, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 174.47000, 24 hour vwap: 159.07372
Apr 08 00:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3099998 = 0.62 BTC [-]
Apr 08 00:58:22 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 08 00:58:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 170.10000, Best ask: 172.99000, Bid-ask spread: 2.89000, Last trade: 172.99000, 24 hour volume: 77343.50317621, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 174.47000, 24 hour vwap: 159.07618
Apr 08 01:05:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.001033 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 01:06:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 15 @ 0.00153 = 0.023 BTC [-]
Apr 08 01:06:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 36 @ 0.00152 = 0.0547 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 01:07:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000604 = 0.0181 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 01:10:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009921 BTC [-]
Apr 08 01:10:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.009921 = 0.0794 BTC [-]
Apr 08 01:11:10 <invest>	hello I want to find mining company I can invest in. I got burned bad, I mean really really really bad by GLBSE when it went under. Anyone have any recomends
Apr 08 01:12:05 <bgupta>	Who were you invested in?
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Apr 08 01:12:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00301 = 0.0151 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 01:14:15 <invest>	About 2 dozen companies cant remember then all and deleted all the info after crying myself out for 2 days. must say that NASTY treated me well though. one of the only ones to actually email me.
Apr 08 01:16:30 <invest>	I made the really dumb mistake of investing all but 10% of what I had in GLBSE companies. was doing pretty well too. Right now I am looking at Havelock
Apr 08 01:17:57 <Namworld>	Hmm, many companies that were on GLBSE moved elsewhere... don't you have a list?
Apr 08 01:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.93 BTC [+]
Apr 08 01:18:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.003 = 0.024 BTC [-]
Apr 08 01:19:01 <Namworld>	If you really had shares of about ~24 different things on GLBSE, you should have gotten a good lot that moved...
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Apr 08 01:22:09 <invest>	Like I said I deleted it. When they finally said they were going to email the companies I submitted my info but Nasty was the only one that got back to me. I lost a few hundred BTC
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Apr 08 01:23:11 <invest>	Right now I am building back up very slowly and want to invest a little bit this time but want to do direct investments
Apr 08 01:24:17 <Namworld>	There's been a lot of issues with people who never received emails with login info on new exchanges...
Apr 08 01:24:48 <Namworld>	The list is the kind of thing you shouldn't have deleted so you could have asked directly each issuer.
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Apr 08 01:27:26 <invest>	Ya well wasn't exactly rational at the time. I paid several thousand dollars and got taken.
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Apr 08 01:28:21 <invest>	Even if it wasn't the issuers fault and in some cases I now think it was a loss of data somewhere. I do believe that some of those people were honest and tried to recompense the best they could.
Apr 08 01:28:39 <Namworld>	You might ahve various shares waiting in a few temporary accounts at some places.
Apr 08 01:29:03 <invest>	What I am really looking for is a P2P trading platform but short of that direct investment.
Apr 08 01:29:04 <Namworld>	Although, if you mostly had money in various pirate passthroughs that's all gone
Apr 08 01:29:27 <Namworld>	There's not really much for P2P.
Apr 08 01:29:43 <invest>	I am over the trying to get my BTC back. I can either stay upset or say "okay you screwed up now start over and learn from your mistakes"
Apr 08 01:30:02 <Namworld>	Some platforms currently in use have the list public to the issuers tho, so if they close issuer still knows the holders.
Apr 08 01:30:26 <invest>	What about NameCoin is anyone using those to verify share ownership
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Apr 08 01:31:18 <Namworld>	I don't think namecoins can be used that way.
Apr 08 01:31:41 <invest>	Really? its listed in the description as part of the use
Apr 08 01:33:18 <Namworld>	Ah, seems like it. Wasn't aware of that
Apr 08 01:33:53 <Namworld>	But I don't know of any serious co using that method
Apr 08 01:34:11 <Namworld>	They all use an exchange of some sort
Apr 08 01:35:58 <invest>	Thats something I really want if I were to use an exchange so that I can prove I own the shares. I don't know why its not a default. I think there are a lot of people like me who don't want to touch asset exchanges because none of these companies seemed to have a backup plan
Apr 08 01:36:58 <Namworld>	New exchanges have holders list for issuers...
Apr 08 01:37:30 <Namworld>	bitfunder lists the BTC address of the holder publicly, BTCT.co sends ever 12 hours the list of emails of all holders along with amount of shares held.
Apr 08 01:37:34 <invest>	Will check that out. Which one do you recommend
Apr 08 01:38:00 <Namworld>	 MPEx > BTCT.co > BitFunder > Havelock
Apr 08 01:38:04 <Namworld>	In order
Apr 08 01:38:16 <Namworld>	MPEx/Havelock don't have holders list availaible for issuers tho
Apr 08 01:40:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00065747 = 5.9172 BTC [-]
Apr 08 01:43:26 <invest>	Thanks a lot will give a look see
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Apr 08 01:52:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 210 @ 0.01 = 2.1 BTC [+]
Apr 08 01:53:43 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 08 01:53:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 172.99998, Best ask: 173.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.48002, Last trade: 173.48000, 24 hour volume: 78967.24542768, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 174.47000, 24 hour vwap: 159.45998
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Apr 08 01:57:02 <Bowjob>	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/ali-al-khawahir-paralyzed-saudi-arabia_n_3009500.html
Apr 08 01:57:44 <Bowjob>	I'm thinking.. that dude should ask for a few more years, buy some bitcoins to save his ass
Apr 08 01:57:55 <Bowjob>	the punishment seems fucked up
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Apr 08 02:02:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01001 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 02:02:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01001 BTC [+]
Apr 08 02:02:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [-]
Apr 08 02:03:24 <bgupta>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin&cmpt=q
Apr 08 02:03:53 <bgupta>	anyone want to map that to btc prices?
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Apr 08 02:04:57 <Namworld>	close to accurate
Apr 08 02:08:24 <bgupta>	now the question is, is it a leading or trailing indicator? :)
Apr 08 02:09:48 <bgupta>	oh wow: missed this article: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-05/bitcoin-really-is-an-existential-threat-to-the-modern-liberal-state.html
Apr 08 02:10:09 <bgupta>	Not earth shattering, just kinda intereting to see bloomberg printing that
Apr 08 02:11:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25 @ 0.00065747 = 0.0164 BTC [-]
Apr 08 02:11:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00064556 = 0.8392 BTC [-]
Apr 08 02:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3075 @ 0.00064555 = 1.9851 BTC [-]
Apr 08 02:14:32 <dub>	gig is up guys, time to go home www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoK8HXMSsNg
Apr 08 02:22:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.003 = 0.009 BTC [-]
Apr 08 02:22:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.003 = 0.033 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 02:23:45 <bgupta>	dub: April 22nd, 2011?
Apr 08 02:24:14 <bgupta>	sounds like he is describing ltc.
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Apr 08 02:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [-]
Apr 08 02:44:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.275 BTC [-]
Apr 08 02:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.275 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 03:04:04 <ChaangNoi>	hey all
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Apr 08 03:10:02 <bgupta>	hey
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Apr 08 03:11:24 <bgupta>	;;asks 1000000
Apr 08 03:11:26 <gribble>	There are currently 42392.795 bitcoins offered at or under 1000000.0 USD, worth 142194139.585 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds
Apr 08 03:11:29 <bgupta>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 03:11:30 <gribble>	There are currently 31251795 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11386914.0291 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.6773 seconds
Apr 08 03:12:16 <bgupta>	Interesting, number of btc available has dropped by about 10k over the past day or so.
Apr 08 03:12:32 <bgupta>	demand remains fairly steady
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Apr 08 03:20:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
Apr 08 03:20:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.39 = 1.17 BTC [-]
Apr 08 03:20:47 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 08 03:20:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 173.99998, Best ask: 174.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50002, Last trade: 174.50000, 24 hour volume: 80929.71880038, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 174.92758, 24 hour vwap: 160.19616
Apr 08 03:23:30 <ChaangNoi>	yeah
Apr 08 03:23:39 <ChaangNoi>	thiscould be an aweso,e week
Apr 08 03:27:10 <taub>	looks like they got the lag under control
Apr 08 03:27:17 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 03:27:18 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3.94677 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00790928288976 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).
Apr 08 03:27:57 <ChaangNoi>	newath
Apr 08 03:28:07 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 08 03:28:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 176.58546, Best ask: 176.92999, Bid-ask spread: 0.34453, Last trade: 176.58546, 24 hour volume: 82330.68251748, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 177.00000, 24 hour vwap: 160.52415
Apr 08 03:28:24 <taub>	< bgupta> now the question is, is it a leading or trailing indicator? :)
Apr 08 03:28:33 <taub>	trailing...
Apr 08 03:28:50 <bgupta>	ah so not useful
Apr 08 03:29:17 <taub>	most of the reports on bitcoin are when price goes up
Apr 08 03:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C185T] 10 @ 0.1371823 = 1.3718 BTC [+]
Apr 08 03:36:12 <ChaangNoi>	i hear it is all over europe
Apr 08 03:36:17 <ChaangNoi>	in the media
Apr 08 03:36:27 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 08 03:36:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 177.00000, Best ask: 177.61998, Bid-ask spread: 0.61998, Last trade: 175.11000, 24 hour volume: 82531.84550036, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 177.25000, 24 hour vwap: 160.58950
Apr 08 03:36:42 <ChaangNoi>	lol this bot be slow
Apr 08 03:36:47 <ChaangNoi>	178.95 now
Apr 08 03:40:00 <bitesak>	it is even in a popular Geneva newspaper yesterday
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Apr 08 03:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 10 @ 0.13140585 = 1.3141 BTC [+]
Apr 08 03:42:17 <ChaangNoi>	we are going right to 80
Apr 08 03:42:29 <ChaangNoi>	180
Apr 08 03:42:50 <ChaangNoi>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 03:42:51 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 152.193309 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.304993687195 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
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Apr 08 03:43:04 <ChaangNoi>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 03:43:05 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 149.42757 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.299451177206 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
Apr 08 03:43:14 <ChaangNoi>	i like the distance quote
Apr 08 03:43:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 12 @ 0.371 = 4.452 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 03:44:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.3701 = 0.7402 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 04:00:15 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 08 04:00:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.00000, Best ask: 180.02000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 180.00000, 24 hour volume: 84292.62074622, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 180.00000, 24 hour vwap: 161.12977
Apr 08 04:01:02 <Diablo-D3>	what
Apr 08 04:01:03 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 08 04:01:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 181.00000, Best ask: 181.02000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 181.00000, 24 hour volume: 84292.62074622, 24 hour low: 143.01000, 24 hour high: 180.00000, 24 hour vwap: 161.12977
Apr 08 04:01:09 <Diablo-D3>	are you fucking kidding me
Apr 08 04:01:52 <Scrat>	:/
Apr 08 04:02:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C110T] 100 @ 0.31326507 = 31.3265 BTC [+]
Apr 08 04:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 300 @ 0.11012312 = 33.0369 BTC [+]
Apr 08 04:04:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
Apr 08 04:10:24 <mjr___>	2 billion
Apr 08 04:11:03 <mjr___>	we reached 2 billion in market cap
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Apr 08 04:14:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.795 = 2.385 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 04:16:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000649 BTC [+]
Apr 08 04:16:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000604 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 04:21:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00064556 = 0.8392 BTC [+]
Apr 08 04:21:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00064555 = 7.6175 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 04:31:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77901 BTC [-]
Apr 08 04:31:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.777 BTC [-]
Apr 08 04:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12888 @ 0.00064555 = 8.3198 BTC [-]
Apr 08 04:33:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00064063 = 16.6564 BTC [-]
Apr 08 04:33:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7264 @ 0.00063322 = 4.5997 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 04:45:57 <punkman>	;;ticker
Apr 08 04:45:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 181.97000, Best ask: 182.77990, Bid-ask spread: 0.80990, Last trade: 182.77999, 24 hour volume: 85089.24290251, 24 hour low: 145.50000, 24 hour high: 184.00000, 24 hour vwap: 162.87632
Apr 08 04:46:29 <bgupta>	btw, was thinking articles like these might be off base… http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/07/bitcoin-and-the-end-of-money/
Apr 08 04:47:29 <Diablo-D3>	bgupta: they're totally on base because LETS PANIC THE POPULATION WOO
Apr 08 04:47:49 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, its techcrunch, who the fuck cares
Apr 08 04:50:19 <punkman>	http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/business/media/bubble-or-no-virtual-bitcoins-show-real-worth.html
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Apr 08 04:52:28 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 04:52:28 <leotreasure>	anyone in Australia - watch 7:30 Report ABC - I'll be talking Bitcoin
Apr 08 04:52:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 15.017978 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0300958597623 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Apr 08 04:52:48 <bgupta>	leotreasure: Is it being streamed?
Apr 08 04:52:58 <leotreasure>	I don't think so
Apr 08 04:53:06 <leotreasure>	will post the link afterwards tho
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Apr 08 04:54:37 <bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/Qr8Bw7H.png
Apr 08 04:54:42 <bowjob>	oh god
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Apr 08 05:02:02 <bgupta>	bowjob, That's like $197/btc??!
Apr 08 05:02:07 <bgupta>	(Or am I misunderstanding
Apr 08 05:02:28 <bgupta>	ohhh wait
Apr 08 05:02:37 <bgupta>	152btc for 1 EU
Apr 08 05:03:04 <bowjob>	152 for 1 EU ea
Apr 08 05:03:20 <bgupta>	how the heck did that happen? typo?
Apr 08 05:03:44 <bowjob>	nooooooooooooo, it was on purpose
Apr 08 05:04:11 <bgupta>	Why?
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Apr 08 05:04:18 <bowjob>	.. omg, i was sarcastic
Apr 08 05:04:23 <bowjob>	it was a fat finger
Apr 08 05:04:29 <bgupta>	gotcha
Apr 08 05:04:55 <bgupta>	on a normal exchange that would have taken out the best bids.
Apr 08 05:04:56 <bowjob>	not as bad as the s.dice fat finger
Apr 08 05:04:57 <bowjob>	but..
Apr 08 05:05:10 <bowjob>	thats why btc-e is cheaper
Apr 08 05:05:11 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 08 05:05:17 <bgupta>	sigh
Apr 08 05:05:25 <bowjob>	im not sure if there's enough market depth there anyways
Apr 08 05:06:03 <bowjob>	yeah man, no market depth
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Apr 08 05:10:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 5 @ 0.25089388 = 1.2545 BTC [-]
Apr 08 05:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.309999 = 0.62 BTC [-]
Apr 08 05:12:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C164T] 10 @ 0.18415903 = 1.8416 BTC [+]
Apr 08 05:21:28 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 05:21:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 9.300846 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0186387912465 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).
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Apr 08 05:29:13 <MJR_>	cheese and crackers
Apr 08 05:29:13 <taub>	gupta> on a normal exchange that would have taken out the best bids.
Apr 08 05:29:17 <taub>	yea it does
Apr 08 05:29:21 <taub>	but also at the price you enter :)
Apr 08 05:29:23 <MJR_>	186???
Apr 08 05:29:35 <taub>	loks like someone wrote his bot wrong
Apr 08 05:29:47 <taub>	because there are many transactions like that
Apr 08 05:29:57 <taub>	oO
Apr 08 05:30:24 <MJR_>	so annoying being able to buy more everyday...how can we deal with this instability :-|
Apr 08 05:30:43 <taub>	it will rise until it finds it's price..
Apr 08 05:30:53 <MJR_>	;;calc (186-164/186)
Apr 08 05:30:54 <gribble>	185.11827957
Apr 08 05:31:04 <MJR_>	;;calc (186-164)/186
Apr 08 05:31:05 <gribble>	0.118279569892
Apr 08 05:31:10 <MJR_>	stupid order of operations
Apr 08 05:31:59 <bgupta>	MJR_: "being able to buy more everyday"??
Apr 08 05:32:06 <MJR_>	lol, i was just being sarcastic
Apr 08 05:32:15 <MJR_>	since so far the "instability" only benefits people
Apr 08 05:32:32 <bgupta>	except shorts I'd guess?
Apr 08 05:32:36 <MJR_>	lol yeah
Apr 08 05:33:14 <bgupta>	the instability has it's plusses and minuses.. on the minus side hard to sleep.
Apr 08 05:33:35 <MJR_>	i've gotten used to >4 hours
Apr 08 05:34:10 <ThickAsThieves>	same here
Apr 08 05:34:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticke
Apr 08 05:34:16 <gribble>	Error: "ticke" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 05:34:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 08 05:34:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 186.00000, Best ask: 186.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 186.00000, 24 hour volume: 85662.04584733, 24 hour low: 147.01000, 24 hour high: 186.50000, 24 hour vwap: 163.76532
Apr 08 05:34:51 <ColdHardMetal>	;;bc,mktcap
Apr 08 05:34:52 <gribble>	2051625580
Apr 08 05:34:59 <ColdHardMetal>	huh.
Apr 08 05:35:05 <MJR_>	lol over 2 billion
Apr 08 05:35:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;bids 175
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Apr 08 05:35:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 175
Apr 08 05:35:32 <gribble>	There are currently 2075.2764 bitcoins demanded at or over 175.0 USD, worth 371415.945999 USD in total. | Data vintage: 84.0750 seconds
Apr 08 05:35:36 <ThickAsThieves>	i need some coffee
Apr 08 05:35:39 <MJR_>	bgupta: one thing that annoys me with all this bubble talk is this...
Apr 08 05:35:47 <MJR_>	say we are on the titanic...
Apr 08 05:35:57 <MJR_>	and i have the option to buy a lifeboat or a seat on one
Apr 08 05:36:09 <MJR_>	i expect the price to rise rapidly as we sink more
Apr 08 05:36:25 <MJR_>	am i buying into a "bubble", perhaps...that doesn't make it any less of a good idea
Apr 08 05:37:20 <MJR_>	i guess, the fact that people assume that since you expect the price to go higher, there can obviously be no good reason for the price to rise higher, it must be idle speculation and have no facts to support it...tulip mania etc
Apr 08 05:37:37 <bgupta>	the biggest problem is it's hard to value as their isn't fundamentals.. people talk about fair price being 1000+ and this is just a correction..
Apr 08 05:37:51 <MJR_>	well...let's look at whatever metrics we do have
Apr 08 05:37:55 <troc>	however a giant turtle lifting the titanic could pop that bubble
Apr 08 05:38:09 <MJR_>	troc: true...i think i'll be ok with my purchase
Apr 08 05:38:19 <ThickAsThieves>	or someone could kill you for he boar
Apr 08 05:38:21 <MJR_>	troc: or i will buy puts on lifeboat seats to hedge
Apr 08 05:38:21 <ThickAsThieves>	boat
Apr 08 05:38:48 <MJR_>	unfortunately, there aint no turtle for the dollar...they could slow the damage
Apr 08 05:38:50 <ThickAsThieves>	my main fear is not the price, it's how easy it is to get in one week and cash out the next
Apr 08 05:38:54 <MJR_>	but the world has changed
Apr 08 05:39:01 <ThickAsThieves>	its like a money tree
Apr 08 05:39:13 <ThickAsThieves>	if it becomes to reliable, people will rape it
Apr 08 05:39:37 <MJR_>	well...when they sell, they have to sell to someone, if they get out "easy" they will give up money
Apr 08 05:39:44 <MJR_>	but back to main point about fundamentals...
Apr 08 05:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00065788 = 2.2697 BTC [+]
Apr 08 05:40:06 <MJR_>	facebook got the valuation it got, as did instagram, twitter, pinterest et al, due to user base right?
Apr 08 05:40:26 <MJR_>	anything that benefits from network effect will obviuosly benefit the more users it has
Apr 08 05:40:33 <ThickAsThieves>	on the flipside, if someone DID sell so many btc that it knocked the price down to like $75, how long would it really last at that price?
Apr 08 05:40:37 <MJR_>	so have we seen increases in usership?
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Apr 08 05:41:01 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: yes, that was my point to the "fed will manipulate the price
Apr 08 05:41:06 <MJR_>	conspiracy theorists
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Apr 08 05:41:15 <MJR_>	anyone who wants to buy high and sell low is welcome in this market
Apr 08 05:41:30 <MJR_>	which is the only way to try to crash the market
Apr 08 05:41:49 <MJR_>	i know personally that if given the chance i would double up if it went to 75
Apr 08 05:41:56 <ThickAsThieves>	exactly
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Apr 08 05:42:11 <MJR_>	so...seems stupid to give away porsche's for pennies
Apr 08 05:42:20 <MJR_>	but have at it, if thats your thing
Apr 08 05:42:22 <MJR_>	fed
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Apr 08 05:42:50 <MJR_>	genie is out of the bottle
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Apr 08 05:43:19 <MJR_>	you can introduce FUD and price manipulations, but the idea is solid...scared people go back to fiat and we get more btc
Apr 08 05:44:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 08 05:44:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 185.50001, Best ask: 186.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49999, Last trade: 186.00000, 24 hour volume: 85340.97056825, 24 hour low: 147.01000, 24 hour high: 186.50000, 24 hour vwap: 163.95404
Apr 08 05:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Apr 08 05:44:15 <MJR_>	yeah insanity
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Apr 08 05:44:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00101 = 0.002 BTC [-]
Apr 08 05:45:37 <MJR_>	but bgupta, my point was that there are fundamentals to back this up...actual bitcoin transactions for goods is up quite a bit, and we are just getting big enough to attract real attention from big fish, this is what i think happens today and this week...
Apr 08 05:46:39 <bgupta>	yeah I know, but last I heard "commerce" at least on the silk road side was like 12 million per month.. how much larger is other commerce..
Apr 08 05:46:46 <bgupta>	err 21 million i mean
Apr 08 05:46:56 <ThickAsThieves>	at this point sellers should be able to realize that selling into bids is dumb, people will obv pay any price
Apr 08 05:47:06 <bgupta>	guesin SR is becoming a smaller and smaller portion of market
Apr 08 05:47:08 <ThickAsThieves>	just wait 10min
Apr 08 05:47:14 <troc>	the $5M  (bitpay) is not all that exciting, walletbit what are they turning over ?
Apr 08 05:47:32 <MJR_>	the $5 million from bitpay is exciting to me somewhat
Apr 08 05:47:35 <ThickAsThieves>	SR is also higher and higher risk to use
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Apr 08 05:48:00 <MJR_>	we will need services like that until bitcoin gets big enough to basically float its own supply chain
Apr 08 05:48:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 177
Apr 08 05:48:08 <troc>	in the context of a '2 billion' market cap ?
Apr 08 05:48:08 <gribble>	There are currently 1773.1748 bitcoins demanded at or over 177.0 USD, worth 319289.445178 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0053 seconds
Apr 08 05:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea why people still reference sr when discussing bitcoin commerce.
Apr 08 05:48:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 170
Apr 08 05:48:16 <gribble>	There are currently 3867.5297 bitcoins demanded at or over 170.0 USD, worth 680880.802151 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.4171 seconds
Apr 08 05:48:21 <mircea_popescu>	seriously : it's a vanishinghly small irrelevant %.
Apr 08 05:48:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 190
Apr 08 05:48:29 <gribble>	There are currently 3370.0377 bitcoins offered at or under 190.0 USD, worth 635943.092935 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.7609 seconds
Apr 08 05:48:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00301 = 6.02 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 05:48:47 <punkman>	;;asks 200
Apr 08 05:48:47 <gribble>	There are currently 9568.7331 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1852022.32504 USD in total. | Data vintage: 38.8006 seconds
Apr 08 05:48:53 <MJR_>	yes, but those numbers were not from a 2 billion dollar economy...they were from a <1 billion economy
Apr 08 05:49:06 <MJR_>	does no one remember where we started march?
Apr 08 05:49:16 <MJR_>	i know it moves quick...
Apr 08 05:49:21 <ThickAsThieves>	40?
Apr 08 05:49:24 <mircea_popescu>	25
Apr 08 05:49:28 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: actually because it is mentioned quite a bit in press.. being more informed, what is the majority of the goods and services being exchanged via btc?
Apr 08 05:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the confusion between "fiat value of M3" amnd "economy" is grave.
Apr 08 05:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin economy is not worth x because total aggregate btc "would be".
Apr 08 05:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	first off, you could never sell 11mn btc at 180 each.
Apr 08 05:50:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 40 @ 0.275176 = 11.007 BTC [+]
Apr 08 05:50:14 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 05:50:16 <gribble>	There are currently 31401663 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11542581.0758 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds
Apr 08 05:50:19 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta ya but seriously, the press is horrible for information.
Apr 08 05:50:27 <MJR_>	yes of course
Apr 08 05:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	i have an old graph somewhere, want me to dig it up ?
Apr 08 05:50:44 <bgupta>	graph of how people are "spending" btc?
Apr 08 05:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	of the economic uses of btc.
Apr 08 05:51:13 <bgupta>	sure sounds great.
Apr 08 05:51:16 <bgupta>	thank you
Apr 08 05:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/what-are-the-bitcoin-market-drivers/
Apr 08 05:51:46 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile i would say the small things lost share and the larger things gained.
Apr 08 05:51:51 <ThickAsThieves>	new sexy pic!
Apr 08 05:51:56 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Apr 08 05:54:18 <MJR_>	japan makes it super easy to see what happens...yen multi-year low, nikkei up 2%
Apr 08 05:56:07 <bgupta>	so I guess the arguement is it can exist largely as an SoV?, as long as it's tradable into fiat, and other goods services?
Apr 08 05:56:20 <bgupta>	(Making sure I am taking away the correct message from post)
Apr 08 05:56:30 <bgupta>	That big slices are getting bigger
Apr 08 05:56:45 <bgupta>	and biggest slice at the time of writing was SoV?
Apr 08 05:57:47 <MJR_>	well that was my biggest point about a magic money machine, i would gladly throw all of my paychecks into btc and hold them, if i could spend them freely without worrying about ACH transfer times, etc
Apr 08 05:57:53 <ThickAsThieves>	its gold with all of the conveniences of e-transacting
Apr 08 05:58:02 <ThickAsThieves>	and more
Apr 08 05:58:10 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: ^^ THIS
Apr 08 05:58:28 <punkman>	why can't it just be bitcoin
Apr 08 05:58:42 <ThickAsThieves>	it is, dont worry
Apr 08 05:59:07 <punkman>	all the analogies and metaphors are slightly tiring
Apr 08 06:00:19 <ThickAsThieves>	then perk us up socrates
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Apr 08 06:04:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 999999999
Apr 08 06:04:06 <gribble>	There are currently 37404.385 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3021267941.74 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
Apr 08 06:04:08 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta it sure can exist largely as sov.
Apr 08 06:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	that is a service. like insurance, or stripping.
Apr 08 06:04:56 <mircea_popescu>	punkman ya well... without words there's what ? faith ?
Apr 08 06:05:30 <mircea_popescu>	jurov : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/lets-dig-a-little-deeper-into-this-entire-deflation-problem/#comment-92664
Apr 08 06:05:34 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you get a kick out of that.
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Apr 08 06:05:37 <ThickAsThieves>	there are roughly 37% less bitcoins for sale today than last week
Apr 08 06:06:23 *	mircea_popescu can't resist linking http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/ to that judicious observation.
Apr 08 06:06:43 <ThickAsThieves>	37% is roughly how much the price has risen i bet too
Apr 08 06:07:02 <ThickAsThieves>	i think we were at about 59000 coins at 140
Apr 08 06:07:09 <punkman>	mircea_popescu: of course, but how many times do we have to compare something to gold and fiat and whatnot
Apr 08 06:07:39 <ThickAsThieves>	no more times, just for you punkman
Apr 08 06:07:42 <mircea_popescu>	we're roughly in the situation where we're flooded with noobs. what's to do ;/
Apr 08 06:07:44 <punkman>	this is more directed to all the idiots writing about bitcoin, not ThickAsThieves
Apr 08 06:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	repeat history 101 and economics 101 tioll our heads fall off
Apr 08 06:08:09 <ThickAsThieves>	its also just us spinning our wheels
Apr 08 06:08:14 <ThickAsThieves>	we get excited
Apr 08 06:08:16 <ThickAsThieves>	and wanna gab
Apr 08 06:08:43 <ThickAsThieves>	plenty of conversations in here can be a real chore to witness
Apr 08 06:08:52 <ThickAsThieves>	still a great chan
Apr 08 06:09:00 <bgupta>	SO what is the difference between a violent upward correction and a bubble/ponzi?
Apr 08 06:09:25 <ThickAsThieves>	the bag still has value when it pops
Apr 08 06:09:33 <bgupta>	got it..
Apr 08 06:09:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0028 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:10:40 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta bitcoin retraced when ordered to.
Apr 08 06:10:50 <mircea_popescu>	i submit the 3-6april 4 day interval qwould have killed a ponzi.
Apr 08 06:12:50 <bgupta>	was trying to figure out how to transfer most of my savings into btc (as SoV).. but decided if I just wait a few years, most of my assets will be in btc if I do nothing. (Not sure if that was clear)
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Apr 08 06:13:01 <mircea_popescu>	it is clear.
Apr 08 06:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	most everybody spends fiat, saves btc, passively moving over.
Apr 08 06:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	this is, of course, bad money driving good money out.
Apr 08 06:13:33 <MJR_>	yep
Apr 08 06:13:38 <MJR_>	gresham's law
Apr 08 06:14:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7722 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:14:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7722 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:14:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7722 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:14:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:14:50 <bgupta>	oh damn greshman's law is great.. never read it before.
Apr 08 06:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	...
Apr 08 06:15:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.761 = 1.522 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	are you serious ?!
Apr 08 06:15:18 <bgupta>	sorry, yeah
Apr 08 06:15:22 <MJR_>	lol, people only reference it every day
Apr 08 06:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	see punkman, THIS is why. because people miss a spot shaving. it happens. it's what it is.
Apr 08 06:15:27 <MJR_>	not your fault
Apr 08 06:15:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7606 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 06:15:56 <MJR_>	i literally almost didn't mention it this time, because i figured everyone would be like "oh no, not gresham's law again, we all know asshole"
Apr 08 06:16:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.77 = 7.7 BTC [+]
Apr 08 06:16:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.7605 = 6.084 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:16:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7605 = 1.521 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:16:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7944 BTC [+]
Apr 08 06:16:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7944 = 1.5888 BTC [+]
Apr 08 06:16:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7605 = 7.605 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:16:50 <bgupta>	well many of you guys have been in channel for months if not years.. I'm realatively new..
Apr 08 06:16:56 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: what do you think of asicminer?
Apr 08 06:17:07 <MJR_>	bgupta: yeah, definitely not your fault
Apr 08 06:17:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7602 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:17:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7601 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:17:25 <bgupta>	I am an engineer by profession, not economist.
Apr 08 06:17:30 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta don't feel bad about it. it happens
Apr 08 06:17:35 <MJR_>	hehehe, that is part of the fun of bitcoins
Apr 08 06:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	nobody knows what they don't know till they find out.
Apr 08 06:17:40 <MJR_>	learning about the system of the world
Apr 08 06:17:45 <MJR_>	exactly
Apr 08 06:17:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.761 = 3.805 BTC [+]
Apr 08 06:17:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.76 = 4.56 BTC [-]
Apr 08 06:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ i think both ways.
Apr 08 06:18:26 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: i'm working on a blog... plan on juxtaposing the tower of babel with bitcoin...money as speech etc
Apr 08 06:18:28 <mircea_popescu>	the main concern is they made a really shitty set of chips which keep blowing up under load, after 100 hours or w/e, and are currently halfway through batch two because of this.
Apr 08 06:18:36 <punkman>	I know just enough to know I don't know shit
Apr 08 06:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise, they have a solid business model.
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Apr 08 06:18:47 <bgupta>	I've heard of some of the example's like metal content exceeding face value and no matter what gov't laws go into place they will get scrapped.
Apr 08 06:19:34 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: yeah, i like the business model, i'm working on an fpga design that should be more efficient, and can then do an avalon style chip maybe...as far as i have seen, the designs work, but that doesn't mean they are nearly on the level they could be
Apr 08 06:20:00 <mircea_popescu>	more competition in mining is great.
Apr 08 06:20:12 <mircea_popescu>	at the current price there;'s a fat paycheck to be eaten there.
Apr 08 06:20:16 <BitHub>	wth
Apr 08 06:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	(which is what i meant earlier. sov AND MINING grew lots)
Apr 08 06:20:24 <BitHub>	apparently bfl delivered to someone in australia?
Apr 08 06:20:29 <MJR_>	yes, true, and there will be another wave of hardware that makes current asics look like old fpga's...
Apr 08 06:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	orly ?
Apr 08 06:20:31 <BitHub>	i was just talking to some guy on the phone
Apr 08 06:20:47 <BitHub>	that cant be right
Apr 08 06:20:48 <MJR_>	hmmm...did this one have fans?
Apr 08 06:21:01 <BitHub>	apparently pre ordered 2 months ago
Apr 08 06:21:05 <MJR_>	brb
Apr 08 06:21:10 <BitHub>	bastard
Apr 08 06:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	ya srslty. fans or no fans ?
Apr 08 06:21:19 <BitHub>	i dont know
Apr 08 06:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	ask
Apr 08 06:21:33 <BitHub>	i wasn't talking to him directly, my friend was talking to him for me heh
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Apr 08 06:22:08 <BitHub>	hes off to bed but they're calling me tomorrow night
Apr 08 06:22:10 <BitHub>	i cant believe it
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Apr 08 06:23:18 <ThickAsThieves>	mining litecoin is still more profitable then btc
Apr 08 06:23:28 <ThickAsThieves>	than*
Apr 08 06:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not really believing it either.
Apr 08 06:24:10 <punkman>	LTC is interesting, but it just took off on the back of BTC now
Apr 08 06:25:18 <punkman>	I like that a new altcoin is popping up every other week now
Apr 08 06:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	it will make the ltc bubble burst a lot more digestible.
Apr 08 06:26:11 <BitHub>	sorry i know i usually troll but im very serious about this one
Apr 08 06:26:18 <BitHub>	trying to get him to ask the guy to take a picture and send it
Apr 08 06:26:52 <BitHub>	it was just a random phone call 30mins ago
Apr 08 06:26:54 <punkman>	http://rlv.zcache.com/i_love_vaporware_mesh_hats-ra52a04ca77754b67a848ac0e607cb30d_v9wfy_8byvr_512.jpg
Apr 08 06:27:03 <BitHub>	cause my friend knows i'm into bitcoin and that
Apr 08 06:27:13 <mircea_popescu>	just got a fresh hyacinth.
Apr 08 06:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	it smells good :D
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Apr 08 06:30:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 08 06:30:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.37700, Best ask: 182.70000, Bid-ask spread: 2.32300, Last trade: 180.00001, 24 hour volume: 85165.12407777, 24 hour low: 147.62000, 24 hour high: 186.50000, 24 hour vwap: 164.94921
Apr 08 06:31:48 <MJR_>	is hyacith the same as honeysuckle?
Apr 08 06:33:33 <MJR_>	guess it's not, i love those scents though
Apr 08 06:34:04 <mircea_popescu>	a no
Apr 08 06:34:21 <MJR_>	those two and gardenia
Apr 08 06:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	honeysuckle is a bush, hyacinth is a bulb, early srping
Apr 08 06:35:20 <EmDes>	that cap punkman :PP
Apr 08 06:35:23 <MJR_>	yes, true
Apr 08 06:35:54 <MJR_>	cherry blossoms will be blooming soon...its one of my favorite times to enjoy nature
Apr 08 06:38:50 <MJR_>	;;seen smickles
Apr 08 06:38:50 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 18 hours, 56 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
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Apr 08 06:49:34 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 08 06:49:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 182.04000, Best ask: 182.45899, Bid-ask spread: 0.41899, Last trade: 182.04000, 24 hour volume: 88143.75258705, 24 hour low: 148.01000, 24 hour high: 186.50000, 24 hour vwap: 165.56880
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Apr 08 06:54:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 08 07:03:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14110 @ 0.00065788 = 9.2827 BTC [+]
Apr 08 07:03:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00065871 = 0.8563 BTC [+]
Apr 08 07:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 640 @ 0.00065872 = 0.4216 BTC [+]
Apr 08 07:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/376/bfl-will-stop-giving-refunds-on-bitforce-sc/
Apr 08 07:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	this is interesting. 500:1 implicit odds that bfl stops refunds.
Apr 08 07:15:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm surprised people arent accusing BFL of mining with theri chips instead of shipping
Apr 08 07:15:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00065356 = 0.4575 BTC [-]
Apr 08 07:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	i guerss that clearly shows how much faith in the bfl chip there is.
Apr 08 07:17:56 <ThickAsThieves>	they must be mining by now
Apr 08 07:18:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 08 07:18:32 <gribble>	61113.2878525
Apr 08 07:18:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 08 07:18:47 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 8931575.85222 based on data since last change | 8537297.41708 based on data for last three days
Apr 08 07:19:59 <ThickAsThieves>	at least 1 or 2 of Avalon/BFL/AM are mining on the side
Apr 08 07:20:44 <ThickAsThieves>	probly all 3
Apr 08 07:20:51 <ThickAsThieves>	incentive is just too high
Apr 08 07:21:13 <ThickAsThieves>	even one unit is oodles of money
Apr 08 07:21:26 <punkman>	you mean AM mining without paying dividends?
Apr 08 07:21:30 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Apr 08 07:21:40 <punkman>	right, would make sense
Apr 08 07:21:53 <ThickAsThieves>	and Avalon not shipping their unit til after they mine with them a few weeks
Apr 08 07:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves there was a dispute a few weeks ago about that
Apr 08 07:22:12 <ThickAsThieves>	and BFL not shipping at all til diff gets high enough for it to tip profit scale
Apr 08 07:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	people were incensed at my suggestion that users reporting dusted units delivered = premining with them
Apr 08 07:22:49 <ThickAsThieves>	it just makes sense
Apr 08 07:23:43 <ThickAsThieves>	none of the 3 have anyone to answer to, except maybe BFL
Apr 08 07:24:01 <ThickAsThieves>	someone needs to run a spy op on them
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Apr 08 07:29:32 <jurov>	mircea_popescu you fag hater, hi :)
Apr 08 07:29:32 <jurov>	and deposits pls
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Apr 08 07:29:33 <jurov>	lol my ex-boss insists on shorting bitcoins
Apr 08 07:29:33 <jurov>	he was introduced to them just some month ago. but he knows for sure this is a bubble
Apr 08 07:29:33 <BitHub>	homofag
Apr 08 07:29:33 <BitHub>	i keep hearing bubble
Apr 08 07:29:33 <BitHub>	but no pop
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Apr 08 07:29:38 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: you cant short them though
Apr 08 07:29:46 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: you can only sell the ones you have
Apr 08 07:30:07 <ThickAsThieves>	could buy puts
Apr 08 07:30:34 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i am sorry we don't process fairy bitcoins today
Apr 08 07:30:36 <jurov>	but he wanted somehow to do it without buying them at all
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Apr 08 07:30:50 <ThickAsThieves>	tell him, hold fiat, thats how
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Apr 08 07:30:58 <Diablo-D3>	basically what ThickAsThieves said
Apr 08 07:30:58 <gesell>	ThickAsThieves: lol
Apr 08 07:31:07 <jurov>	but i'd really love to screw him
Apr 08 07:31:08 <Diablo-D3>	wait until the bubble pops and then buy in
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Apr 08 07:31:14 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: no, I think hes right
Apr 08 07:31:16 <Diablo-D3>	this is a bubble
Apr 08 07:31:27 <gesell>	jurov: support him. get him worked up about it. tell him "go for it! yeeeeah"
Apr 08 07:31:43 <gesell>	bring him a pitch fork
Apr 08 07:31:56 <Diablo-D3>	the bobble needs to pop before we can build a new stable floor
Apr 08 07:31:59 <jurov>	but he asked how. or is there a fool who wants to lend him btc?
Apr 08 07:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.93 = 9.65 BTC [+]
Apr 08 07:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	<BitHub> but no pop << that's because it's not a cherry.
Apr 08 07:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	jurov so let him buy puts/sell calls.
Apr 08 07:32:20 <gesell>	it will end with him and bernanke eating a gallon tub of icecream watching cnbc together to cover their tears
Apr 08 07:32:26 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: well, he could take a bet up with mp
Apr 08 07:32:34 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov if you are so sure he's cray, sell him puts in fiat
Apr 08 07:32:42 <jurov>	yea, i think he'll end up as coinbr customer
Apr 08 07:32:42 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: I wouldnt
Apr 08 07:32:46 <Diablo-D3>	the guy is jurov's boss
Apr 08 07:32:49 <Diablo-D3>	we need a third party
Apr 08 07:32:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/330/mtgox-bitcoin-usd-exchange-rate-200-before/ << he can bet NO there.
Apr 08 07:33:10 <jurov>	he's ex-boss. no power anymore
Apr 08 07:33:32 <jurov>	and i think the bubble is industrial strength so far. unpoppable.
Apr 08 07:33:48 <BitHub>	hehe
Apr 08 07:33:48 <jurov>	may just deflate a bit
Apr 08 07:33:53 <BitHub>	nice mircea
Apr 08 07:33:56 <BitHub>	miss you btw
Apr 08 07:34:01 <mircea_popescu>	miss me ?!
Apr 08 07:34:07 <BitHub>	of course
Apr 08 07:34:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 100000
Apr 08 07:34:10 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 9540076.0121 USD and would take the last price down to 35.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 95.4008 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 58.8457 seconds
Apr 08 07:34:20 <BitHub>	miss teh lulz
Apr 08 07:34:32 <mircea_popescu>	i'm practically always here
Apr 08 07:34:47 <BitHub>	shhh, dont ruin the moment
Apr 08 07:34:52 <mircea_popescu>	btwm, anyone here won anything from raping that adria chick ?
Apr 08 07:35:14 <ThickAsThieves>	the worst thing about mp (and jurov, ukto, burnside, topace) is that they sleep
Apr 08 07:35:16 <ThickAsThieves>	so lame
Apr 08 07:35:17 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 08 07:35:33 <BitHub>	2 hours is all you need
Apr 08 07:35:42 <jurov>	well, if you know some azn i can entrust deposits to...
Apr 08 07:35:58 <BitHub>	and while you sleep you should have someone watching you sleep ready to wake you up for an emergency
Apr 08 07:35:59 <jurov>	better wait these few hours.
Apr 08 07:36:04 <BitHub>	asian?
Apr 08 07:36:22 <jurov>	yes, asian. to be available while i sleep
Apr 08 07:36:30 <BitHub>	which part of asia?
Apr 08 07:36:49 <ThickAsThieves>	he wasnt serious
Apr 08 07:36:56 <BitHub>	mmk
Apr 08 07:36:57 <jurov>	should i troll you "i like thai boys"?
Apr 08 07:37:09 <BitHub>	yuck
Apr 08 07:37:16 <BitHub>	why would you do that when there's vaginas?
Apr 08 07:37:27 <jurov>	vags smell
Apr 08 07:37:33 <BitHub>	true
Apr 08 07:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	here's a simple explanation of the bitcoin/fiat relationship : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136542105834.jpg
Apr 08 07:38:23 <BitHub>	ass to mouth kind of relationship?
Apr 08 07:38:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 660 @ 0.00065872 = 0.4348 BTC [+]
Apr 08 07:38:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2534 @ 0.00065873 = 1.6692 BTC [+]
Apr 08 07:39:12 <jurov>	coinbr deposits credited.
Apr 08 07:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	more like spanking
Apr 08 07:41:49 <BitHub>	oh
Apr 08 07:42:20 <BitHub>	i have a good one mircea id like to do
Apr 08 07:43:30 <BitHub>	its basicually a bunch of dinosaurs standing around looking at this huge big thing hurdling towards earth that's about to wipe them out, but instead a astroid its a very big bitcoin
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Apr 08 07:44:49 <jurov>	pathetic
Apr 08 07:44:50 <Scrat>	BitHub: im gonna steal your idea thanks
Apr 08 07:45:03 <BitHub>	no worries
Apr 08 07:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	yea kinda too direct and unedgy for my style.
Apr 08 07:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	i like getting people to where they start stammering about how i'm a homophobe nigger hatin' rapist or something
Apr 08 07:46:39 <troc>	or a swine flue virus in the shape of bitcoin eating all the bankers/marketdroids
Apr 08 07:47:26 <BitHub>	really mircea?
Apr 08 07:47:57 <BitHub>	i like how people completely forget who i am in about 1 year
Apr 08 07:48:03 <BitHub>	lay low
Apr 08 07:48:41 <BitHub>	when most of the people are now old and sick and dying and thinking about their life, wont be a trace of me in it
Apr 08 07:49:01 <jurov>	O_o
Apr 08 07:49:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128215357439.jpg
Apr 08 07:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	actually someboduy should prolly chop a btc in there.
Apr 08 07:49:51 <jurov>	isn't that nike shoes ad?
Apr 08 07:50:13 <BitHub>	lul wth
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Apr 08 07:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 08 07:50:30 <BitHub>	so many things to say about that pic heh
Apr 08 07:50:45 <jurov>	like, wanna get a sprinter kid? wear 'em
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Apr 08 07:50:52 <mircea_popescu>	during
Apr 08 07:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170305.0
Apr 08 07:51:01 <BitHub>	why isn't she wearing timberland boots?
Apr 08 07:51:02 <mircea_popescu>	for the flulz.
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Apr 08 07:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	ok, i got another. this one is about the power of education by example : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134618245439.jpg
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Apr 08 07:52:05 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 08 07:52:45 <BitHub>	shit, that's someones daughter yo
Apr 08 07:52:47 <MJR_>	the problem with bubble predictors is that even if they are right, the market can remain irrational a lot longer than they can remain solvent
Apr 08 07:53:04 <BitHub>	mircea that guy looks more cock hungry than her
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Apr 08 07:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub hence my comment.
Apr 08 07:55:30 <BitHub>	haha
Apr 08 07:55:32 <BitHub>	more lulz plz
Apr 08 07:56:47 <ThickAsThieves>	uh oh, fat washed up comedians are pimping bitcoin now
Apr 08 07:56:48 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.thebitcointrader.com/2013/04/drew-carey-and-roseanne-barr-are.html
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Apr 08 07:59:24 <BitHub>	hah thieves
Apr 08 07:59:24 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 08 07:59:26 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub here's a funny one with niggers http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136097321137.jpg
Apr 08 07:59:27 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/7/4194142/torment-tides-numenera-kickstarter-video-game-record-rpg  <- Someone needs to get these game companies kickstarting in btc instead, Bitfunder would be a good fit
Apr 08 07:59:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124391.msg1353059#msg1353059
Apr 08 07:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	bweahaha
Apr 08 07:59:49 <mircea_popescu>	god she's too good
Apr 08 07:59:52 <MJR_>	http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/current-affairs/bitcoin-betting
Apr 08 08:00:00 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
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Apr 08 08:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 08 08:01:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 182.90000, Best ask: 183.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 183.00000, 24 hour volume: 84257.09650220, 24 hour low: 151.44000, 24 hour high: 186.50000, 24 hour vwap: 167.63669
Apr 08 08:01:09 <MJR_>	they got pissed cuz they lose too much money betting against bitcoin
Apr 08 08:01:16 <BitHub>	LULz
Apr 08 08:01:18 <BitHub>	wtf
Apr 08 08:01:21 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 5,456 *  183
Apr 08 08:01:21 <gribble>	Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
Apr 08 08:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 5456 *  183
Apr 08 08:01:25 <gribble>	998448
Apr 08 08:01:26 <BitHub>	hehe its like he doesn't want to be there or something
Apr 08 08:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	ha! BitBet just about to go into 1mn total bets
Apr 08 08:01:58 <BitHub>	bitcoin made it on australian news tonight
Apr 08 08:02:00 <BitHub>	http://youtu.be/mgZhJBKvvTE
Apr 08 08:02:00 <MJR_>	nice
Apr 08 08:02:05 <ThickAsThieves>	might actually pass sdice this year if evoorhees doesnt get crackalackin
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Apr 08 08:03:22 <MJR_>	i heard asicminer passed sdice
Apr 08 08:04:42 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btct asicminer-pt
Apr 08 08:04:44 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.751 / 0.7817 / 0.795 (180 shares, 140.7 BTC),  7D: 0.683004 / 0.75853 / 0.795 (1507 shares, 1143.1 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.77718 / 0.973 (7755 shares, 6027.1 BTC)
Apr 08 08:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 08 08:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0028 / 0.00293838 / 0.00301847 (6753 shares, 19.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00276111 / 0.00318903 / 0.00400173 (534925 shares, 1,705.89 BTC), 30D: 0.00276111 / 0.00364232 / 0.006 (1637072 shares, 5,962.74 BTC)
Apr 08 08:04:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc .78 * 4 / 10
Apr 08 08:04:56 <gribble>	0.312
Apr 08 08:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	just about.
Apr 08 08:05:28 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 08 08:05:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063322 / 0.0006534 / 0.00066633 (319604 shares, 208.83 BTC), 7D: 0.00059218 / 0.00067536 / 0.00071514 (1795331 shares, 1,212.51 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068994 / 0.00077505 (9004112 shares, 6,212.38 BTC)
Apr 08 08:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, s.dice + asicminer < s.mpoe
Apr 08 08:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	this is getting scandalous.
Apr 08 08:07:09 <ThickAsThieves>	now that erik is actually moved out of the US, I figure after a few weeks of loose women and mai tais, he'll have some developments for sdice
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Apr 08 08:07:47 <error4733>	good ! because fiat value is now close to 40M$
Apr 08 08:08:02 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: that was my same theory
Apr 08 08:08:20 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: which is why i've held and think its a steal at its current price
Apr 08 08:08:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i actually sold some AM to get these cheape sdice
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Apr 08 08:09:30 <error4733>	yes, go first ! my bad, value S.dice is more than 52M$
Apr 08 08:10:23 <ThickAsThieves>	we need more buyers in btc nvesting market
Apr 08 08:10:58 <ThickAsThieves>	exchanges do so little outreach
Apr 08 08:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves that's a market opportunity for anyone with some entrepreneurial blood.
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Apr 08 08:11:43 <error4733>	IPO set the price @3M$, tell me what in 3 month has change the "real" value of S.dcie
Apr 08 08:12:13 <XRPTrader2>	xrp for sale at https://xrptrader.com
Apr 08 08:12:25 <ThickAsThieves>	spam detected
Apr 08 08:12:45 <thestringpuller>	ThickAsThieves: S.DICE is supposed to be a bot no?
Apr 08 08:12:50 <thestringpuller>	like the lottery no?
Apr 08 08:12:52 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 the fact that its space went from nothing to the talk of the town.
Apr 08 08:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	if i started a bar on manhattan which was just this island spending 3 mn
Apr 08 08:13:13 <mircea_popescu>	and in 3 months manhattan became today's manhattan
Apr 08 08:13:19 <mircea_popescu>	would youy think my bar is worth 3mn ?
Apr 08 08:13:40 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, it's the same bar. not in the same space anymore.
Apr 08 08:13:58 <ThickAsThieves>	its easy to see high value in sdice as a company
Apr 08 08:14:10 <ThickAsThieves>	but its just as easy to see squandered opportunity
Apr 08 08:14:25 <mircea_popescu>	personally i see a little more squandered oportunity in asicminer, but yeah
Apr 08 08:14:59 <ThickAsThieves>	same could be argued for bitbet
Apr 08 08:15:27 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: ASICMINER will be surpassed by another mining company when as you said, "The real people arrive in bitcoin land"
Apr 08 08:15:34 <thestringpuller>	the shuttle has not landed yet unfortunately.
Apr 08 08:16:01 <ChaangNoi>	did gox have lag for like 20 mins?
Apr 08 08:16:11 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 08 08:16:34 <unbalanced_>	Latest I've heard on Gox queue:
Apr 08 08:16:37 <unbalanced_>	My new waiting list position is now 15,280 (when I submitted 10 days ago, queue started at 6000).
Apr 08 08:16:41 <mircea_popescu>	ChaangNoi http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
Apr 08 08:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ im not sure how far i'd trust those numbers.
Apr 08 08:17:33 <ThickAsThieves>	especially if they simply arent processing any at all
Apr 08 08:17:43 <unbalanced_>	Ah, like BFL order numbers?
Apr 08 08:17:57 <ThickAsThieves>	they could just be slower than usual
Apr 08 08:18:16 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ perhaps.
Apr 08 08:22:19 <ThickAsThieves>	187
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Apr 08 08:22:45 <ChaangNoi>	on a mother fucking cop?
Apr 08 08:22:54 <ThickAsThieves>	on a motherfucking coin
Apr 08 08:23:03 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Apr 08 08:23:05 <ChaangNoi>	thanks mp
Apr 08 08:23:31 <ChaangNoi>	15k waiting, nice
Apr 08 08:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> vags smell << my cock smells too. the odd part is teh girls love the scent.
Apr 08 08:23:36 <ChaangNoi>	$300 here we come
Apr 08 08:24:10 <jurov>	yea they love vanilla
Apr 08 08:24:11 <kakobrekla>	morning
Apr 08 08:24:14 <kakobrekla>	what did i miss
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Apr 08 08:24:55 <unbalanced_>	guess what BTC is up
Apr 08 08:24:56 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla inaba came out of closet
Apr 08 08:25:06 <kakobrekla>	did he?
Apr 08 08:25:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i sold a bioshock infite / crysis 3 game code to him for 1 btc
Apr 08 08:25:48 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 08 08:26:55 <BitHub>	that sounds too manly
Apr 08 08:28:05 <ChaangNoi>	186$ for the games, lol
Apr 08 08:28:33 <punkman>	"Our user count has increased from 7 to 15 and one of our users (a native  Japanese speaker) has volunteered to help edit the Japanese dictionary." haha
Apr 08 08:29:05 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, did you pack in a mining trojan?
Apr 08 08:29:26 <ThickAsThieves>	twas merely a game code
Apr 08 08:29:28 <ThickAsThieves>	alas
Apr 08 08:29:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i have 7 more
Apr 08 08:29:55 <ThickAsThieves>	if anyone planned on buying either game
Apr 08 08:30:09 <jurov>	tey prolly got trojaned by chinese anyway... that's why they draw so much
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Apr 08 08:30:33 <ThickAsThieves>	do we know anyone in BFL's state?
Apr 08 08:30:37 <ThickAsThieves>	we need a covert op
Apr 08 08:30:52 <ThickAsThieves>	cam in the purse kinda thing
Apr 08 08:30:55 <punkman>	there are private investigators everywhere
Apr 08 08:31:08 <ChaangNoi>	im from the town bfl is operating in
Apr 08 08:31:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i suppose they wouldnt need to actually mine AT their office
Apr 08 08:33:09 <ThickAsThieves>	someone that ordered mini rigs should hire a PI
Apr 08 08:33:22 <ThickAsThieves>	188.78
Apr 08 08:33:38 <MJR_>	i don't carry a purse....
Apr 08 08:33:45 <BitHub>	ThickAsThieves
Apr 08 08:33:52 <BitHub>	i recieved the strangest phone call tonight
Apr 08 08:34:03 <ThickAsThieves>	it wasnt me
Apr 08 08:34:06 <BitHub>	about a bfl operating in australia
Apr 08 08:34:17 <ThickAsThieves>	go visit it
Apr 08 08:34:30 <BitHub>	i'm waiting for pics via sms
Apr 08 08:34:51 <BitHub>	my friend went out to the middle of nowhere to start this job and ran into a guy that's a "bitcoin miner"
Apr 08 08:34:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Apr 08 08:34:56 <ThickAsThieves>	is the case for the new ones the same as the fpga?
Apr 08 08:35:14 <BitHub>	i need to get 100% confirmation
Apr 08 08:35:19 <BitHub>	i've asked my mate to send me pics
Apr 08 08:35:32 <BitHub>	i cant believe it like how the fuck did this guy get a bfl?
Apr 08 08:36:07 <BitHub>	2 x 120gh apparently, ordered 2 months ago
Apr 08 08:36:36 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 200
Apr 08 08:36:37 <gribble>	There are currently 10021.06 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1951263.57221 USD in total. | Data vintage: 87.7052 seconds
Apr 08 08:36:48 <BitHub>	2 x 60 i mean
Apr 08 08:37:03 <ThickAsThieves>	189.80
Apr 08 08:37:18 <ChaangNoi>	i kinda doubt that
Apr 08 08:37:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99999999
Apr 08 08:37:31 <gribble>	There are currently 37525.179 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 419998515.287 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0072 seconds
Apr 08 08:38:00 <ChaangNoi>	189.8
Apr 08 08:38:05 <ChaangNoi>	yeah crazy
Apr 08 08:38:07 <ThickAsThieves>	190
Apr 08 08:38:11 <ChaangNoi>	usa is waking up
Apr 08 08:38:30 <ThickAsThieves>	insanity
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Apr 08 08:38:59 <ChaangNoi>	this is madness  BIIIITTTCOOOOIN!!!!
Apr 08 08:39:13 <ThickAsThieves>	the price is looking like its correlated to the amount of coins available for sale.
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Apr 08 08:39:32 <ThickAsThieves>	value is up 35% from 140, coins available is down 35%
Apr 08 08:40:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 08:40:12 <gribble>	There are currently 31449915 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11449403.9086 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.0387 seconds
Apr 08 08:40:13 <Namworld>	190 USD per BTC O.o
Apr 08 08:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C155T] 4 @ 0.24413205 = 0.9765 BTC [+]
Apr 08 08:40:37 <ChaangNoi>	bids are level
Apr 08 08:40:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i told myself i wouldnt buy any more calls til vwap hits 200
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Apr 08 08:42:05 <Namworld>	the premium on options are so high I just can't go around to buying some
Apr 08 08:42:22 <Namworld>	I should have bought calls when price was around 120 tho...
Apr 08 08:43:02 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 08 08:43:03 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 168.22
Apr 08 08:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 278 @ 0.12503255 = 34.759 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 08:44:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 08 08:44:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 187.99000, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.01000, Last trade: 190.00000, 24 hour volume: 86134.18904333, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 169.50989
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Apr 08 08:44:35 <mircea_popescu>	i go to eat and not even 190 yet ?
Apr 08 08:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	what is this
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Apr 08 08:44:58 <Namworld>	It's slow right? Not raising 10% every 15 minutes
Apr 08 08:46:31 <mircea_popescu>	outrage.
Apr 08 08:46:39 <Namworld>	It's doubling every 1-2 weeks...
Apr 08 08:46:46 <ThickAsThieves>	my wife was talking about investing in this new restaurant, they want $3000, 36month, 8%APR
Apr 08 08:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	<Namworld> I should have bought calls when price was around 120 tho... << but you thought premium too high right ?
Apr 08 08:46:58 <ThickAsThieves>	i said fuck that i can make 8% in a day
Apr 08 08:47:17 <Namworld>	yeah... then the price kept raising
Apr 08 08:47:25 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 08 08:47:30 <Namworld>	seriously... I lost a ton to shorting
Apr 08 08:47:31 <ThickAsThieves>	Nam, guess what
Apr 08 08:47:38 <Namworld>	Back in 20-40 USD/BTC
Apr 08 08:47:38 <ThickAsThieves>	it might continue rising
Apr 08 08:47:38 <mircea_popescu>	fate of the mpoe bot. everyone thinks premiums are too high, tellingly nobody goes in the midmarket.
Apr 08 08:47:50 <Namworld>	Then I bought calls last month... got the BTC back
Apr 08 08:47:52 <deadweasel>	i'm happy about my 188s now  :D
Apr 08 08:47:54 <ChaangNo_>	fucking gox lag
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Apr 08 08:48:00 <Namworld>	Guess I should have done the same this month
Apr 08 08:48:07 <ChaangNo_>	;;;;ticker
Apr 08 08:48:08 <gribble>	Error: ";;ticker" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 08:48:17 <ChaangNo_>	;;ticker
Apr 08 08:48:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 189.00000, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 190.00000, 24 hour volume: 86134.18904333, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 169.50989
Apr 08 08:48:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 08:48:30 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 75.52478 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.151350813502 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 08 08:48:56 <ThickAsThieves>	oh Gox, you gox me
Apr 08 08:49:08 <Namworld>	Someone should kill Gox...
Apr 08 08:49:19 <deadweasel>	we're trying
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Apr 08 08:49:36 <Namworld>	Using gox... I mean, what is more lethal than gox?
Apr 08 08:49:53 <Namworld>	It's so slow you can die old waiting
Apr 08 08:49:57 <deadweasel>	tigers
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Apr 08 08:50:19 <Namworld>	Make the staff have to make a transaction and wait for it to complete to return to work.
Apr 08 08:50:28 <Namworld>	Gox will fade out after some time.
Apr 08 08:50:28 <MJR_>	yeah, so far you can buy at bots market price, it usually works out
Apr 08 08:50:38 <MJR_>	Namworld: you are buying back bonds?
Apr 08 08:50:44 <Namworld>	yeah
Apr 08 08:50:49 <MJR_>	can i be last lol
Apr 08 08:51:07 <Namworld>	If you want... I'm buying a part of it back.
Apr 08 08:51:18 <Namworld>	If you don't want to have them bought back, don't offer
Apr 08 08:51:24 <DeaDTerra>	Join us tonight in a Starcraft 2 Bitcoin prize pool sit and go tournament :) http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1bwu7r/eu_starting_5_hours_from_now_the_gauntlet_come/
Apr 08 08:51:25 <MJR_>	yeah, i am waiting
Apr 08 08:51:31 <MJR_>	twas my favorite bond
Apr 08 08:51:43 <MJR_>	guess i'll dump into asicminer
Apr 08 08:51:57 <Namworld>	I'll start with volunteers and if I'm missing some I'll do a forced buyback.
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Apr 08 08:52:15 <Namworld>	actually I don't think I can do a partial forced buyback... anyway
Apr 08 08:52:43 <ThickAsThieves>	make two accounts
Apr 08 08:52:54 <ThickAsThieves>	buy at market
Apr 08 08:53:10 <Diablo-D3>	DeaDTerra: heh, too bad most people dont own starcraft 2
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Apr 08 08:53:33 <Namworld>	I do... but I wouldn't play tournaments...
Apr 08 08:53:38 <ThickAsThieves>	no time for games
Apr 08 08:53:54 <Namworld>	I hardly have time here too
Apr 08 08:53:56 <DeaDTerra>	Well I think gamers and Bitcoin interest should coincide pretty well :)
Apr 08 08:54:10 <DeaDTerra>	It's just a sit and go, you jump in and play whenever you want and can leave anytime.
Apr 08 08:54:22 <Namworld>	I also have a hard time with RTS, but no problem with turn-based
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Apr 08 08:54:29 <DeaDTerra>	If you win your group you are awarded some BTC, if not you can just play again with an ew group
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Apr 08 08:54:53 <Namworld>	I can't keep up with fast multi-tasking
Apr 08 08:56:12 <Diablo-D3>	DeaDTerra: I think gamers should honestly quit.
Apr 08 08:56:18 <Diablo-D3>	Believe in Satoshi
Apr 08 08:56:24 <Diablo-D3>	Do something important with their lives instead of wasting time
Apr 08 08:56:45 <Namworld>	Become monks in the temple of Satoshi?
Apr 08 08:57:18 <Namworld>	Games are not a waste of time more than any other leisure activity... It's just entertainment.
Apr 08 08:57:20 <Diablo-D3>	No, become the body of Satoshi so that he may work through you.
Apr 08 08:57:24 <ChaangNo_>	;;200
Apr 08 08:57:25 <gribble>	Error: "200" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 08:57:26 <ChaangNo_>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 08:57:27 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.019954 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.99875925839e-05 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 08 08:57:32 <ChaangNo_>	;;asks 200
Apr 08 08:57:34 <gribble>	There are currently 8269.9158 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1620932.97386 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Apr 08 08:57:36 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: one does not NEED entertainment
Apr 08 08:57:49 <ChaangNo_>	;; asks 199.99
Apr 08 08:57:51 <gribble>	There are currently 6712.3312 bitcoins offered at or under 199.99 USD, worth 1309416.70044 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.7117 seconds
Apr 08 08:57:56 <Diablo-D3>	We are only on Earth for a short time, why waste it doing dumb shit?
Apr 08 08:58:40 <gesell>	gaming is rather useful
Apr 08 08:58:58 <gesell>	flexes problem solving skills, creates a culture demanding achievments
Apr 08 08:59:11 <punkman>	not all games are equal
Apr 08 08:59:14 <gesell>	if translated back (those skills) in a minor way to the real world this has some social impact
Apr 08 08:59:17 <deadweasel>	so do productive tasks
Apr 08 08:59:24 <Diablo-D3>	gesell: starcraft 2 is not one of those games.
Apr 08 08:59:41 <ThickAsThieves>	after a while, games are just timesucks
Apr 08 09:00:03 <gesell>	the world is a thousand times better than people spend their time in WoW or SC2. every person playing games is one less watching tv. Games are not the most productive but at least they are paticipatory
Apr 08 09:00:11 <gesell>	s/than/with
Apr 08 09:00:30 <deadweasel>	better than tv, yes.  that is not saying much.
Apr 08 09:00:37 <Diablo-D3>	gesell: they are not productive at all
Apr 08 09:00:37 <gesell>	says a lot actually
Apr 08 09:00:47 <Diablo-D3>	Games are a prison.
Apr 08 09:00:51 <Diablo-D3>	So is TV, so are movies,
Apr 08 09:01:00 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoin is a prison
Apr 08 09:01:05 <gesell>	entertainment is a prison
Apr 08 09:01:12 <gesell>	the type of entertainment is different
Apr 08 09:01:18 <DeaDTerra>	Gaming is a hobby, it's a entertainment but can also be a way to improve multitasking, micro management and coordination.
Apr 08 09:01:22 <deadweasel>	tv is makes you dumb and full of shit.  games are interactively brain sucks..  :)
Apr 08 09:01:29 <Diablo-D3>	Did you know more "food" is grown in Farmville than in real life?
Apr 08 09:01:32 <DeaDTerra>	It's only a prison if you let it catch you
Apr 08 09:01:33 <ThickAsThieves>	tv isnt ALL bad
Apr 08 09:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 ahaha good one.
Apr 08 09:01:35 <ThickAsThieves>	geez
Apr 08 09:01:36 <deadweasel>	sorta like this room, only i learn stuff here.
Apr 08 09:01:38 <gesell>	Diablo-D3: lol
Apr 08 09:01:41 <punkman>	I think TV helps me understand other people a lot
Apr 08 09:02:02 <Diablo-D3>	DeaDTerra: humans suck at multitasking
Apr 08 09:02:08 <deadweasel>	no it doesn't
Apr 08 09:02:08 <Diablo-D3>	it should just not be performed at all
Apr 08 09:02:19 <Diablo-D3>	just focus on the task at hand until its done
Apr 08 09:02:29 <deadweasel>	tv helps you understand bullshit drama.
Apr 08 09:02:39 <deadweasel>	its not real...
Apr 08 09:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13654259702.png here's a fresh one.
Apr 08 09:02:55 <deadweasel>	makes you crazy and bel;ieve crazy things
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Apr 08 09:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile in gaza strip : <chetty> Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza have started grabbing young men with long or gel-styled spiky hair off the streets, bundling them into jeeps, mocking them and shaving their heads.
Apr 08 09:03:55 <ThickAsThieves>	it can be argued there is no such thing as multitasking
Apr 08 09:04:07 <mircea_popescu>	i can tiotally see why the libertards are supporting palestine against israel.
Apr 08 09:04:11 <ThickAsThieves>	youre mostly just ignoring a lot of things at once
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Apr 08 09:04:22 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: supporting either is against Satoshi, really.
Apr 08 09:04:27 <gesell>	http://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world.html
Apr 08 09:04:41 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 myeah.
Apr 08 09:05:10 <Diablo-D3>	gesell: Ive already seen it, I dont subscribe to that belief
Apr 08 09:05:26 <Diablo-D3>	its just a bizarre subset of "practice makes perfect"
Apr 08 09:06:35 <Diablo-D3>	I don't know why more people don't free themselves from their prisons.
Apr 08 09:07:04 <punkman>	why would they?
Apr 08 09:07:10 <Diablo-D3>	Let Satoshi work through you, the Savior, Lord, and King of Humanity.
Apr 08 09:08:04 <deadweasel>	Diablo-D3: time for #bitcoin-church
Apr 08 09:08:36 <punkman>	http://kopimism.me/
Apr 08 09:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	who's punkman anyway ?
Apr 08 09:09:27 <gesell>	Diablo-D3: so i agree with you then. i just would say that yes changing the addiction to gaming would be an improvment but the addiction to gaming is already an improvement from prior forms of entertainment
Apr 08 09:09:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00276111 = 1.6567 BTC [-]
Apr 08 09:09:57 <Diablo-D3>	gesell: yes, but we'd be better off to just ending all addicitons
Apr 08 09:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 125 @ 0.00276101 = 0.3451 BTC [-]
Apr 08 09:10:05 <gesell>	I dont know where you live but I'd be happier to see people spend less time addicted to entertainment sports on TV than gaming
Apr 08 09:10:18 <gesell>	nah, addictions will always exist
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Apr 08 09:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	addiction fundamentally works on the pathways that allow you to fall in love.
Apr 08 09:10:41 <deadweasel>	gesell, yes, you're right they always exist
Apr 08 09:11:01 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yes, but if you love Satoshi, then that is all the pathway massaging you need.
Apr 08 09:11:07 <deadweasel>	right now it's btc information.  but i learn here.
Apr 08 09:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	who are you to say what massaging i need ?
Apr 08 09:11:25 <punkman>	"most of the really pleasant things in life are worth endlessly repeating."
Apr 08 09:11:39 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: then you are not a follower of Satoshi
Apr 08 09:11:45 <mircea_popescu>	punkman srsly, do we know you under a previous incarnation ?
Apr 08 09:11:56 <punkman>	mircea_popescu: doubtful
Apr 08 09:12:05 <mircea_popescu>	a ok. do you run any service or anything ?
Apr 08 09:12:33 <punkman>	various things in the works, not yet
Apr 08 09:12:39 <mircea_popescu>	aite.
Apr 08 09:12:41 <punkman>	I'm here to learn
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Apr 08 09:13:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00065873 = 1.9762 BTC [+]
Apr 08 09:25:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 120 @ 0.009933 = 1.192 BTC [-]
Apr 08 09:29:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00065356 = 1.9607 BTC [-]
Apr 08 09:29:29 <thestringpuller>	good to hear punkman
Apr 08 09:30:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99999999
Apr 08 09:30:05 <gribble>	There are currently 38628.507 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 420248240.474 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds
Apr 08 09:30:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 09:30:18 <gribble>	There are currently 31440065 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11260061.3773 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.8361 seconds
Apr 08 09:31:05 <ThickAsThieves>	so if coins avail affects price, along with bid dollar total, we should see a little plateau or dip right now
Apr 08 09:32:45 <thestringpuller>	am I seeing that correctly?
Apr 08 09:32:57 <thestringpuller>	34 million?
Apr 08 09:33:12 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 08 09:33:25 <thestringpuller>	31 million*
Apr 08 09:33:39 <thestringpuller>	31 million coins are demanded
Apr 08 09:33:40 <ThickAsThieves>	meaningless number imo
Apr 08 09:33:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 08 09:33:51 <ChaangNoi>	yeah but 21 million of them are my asks at .00001
Apr 08 09:33:58 <ThickAsThieves>	^
Apr 08 09:34:17 <jurov>	;;bids 1
Apr 08 09:34:25 <gribble>	There are currently 317488.65 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 11240718.5782 USD in total. | Data vintage: 113.9340 seconds
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Apr 08 09:34:36 <thestringpuller>	there we gp
Apr 08 09:34:41 <thestringpuller>	there we go lol
Apr 08 09:34:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
Apr 08 09:34:58 <ThickAsThieves>	still meaningless
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Apr 08 09:35:06 <ThickAsThieves>	dollars matters more
Apr 08 09:35:08 <jurov>	a bit less meaningless
Apr 08 09:35:11 <jurov>	;;bids 5
Apr 08 09:35:13 <gribble>	There are currently 201529.11 bitcoins demanded at or over 5.0 USD, worth 11005649.7257 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0124 seconds
Apr 08 09:35:18 <thestringpuller>	;;vol
Apr 08 09:35:18 <gribble>	Error: "vol" is not a valid command.
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Apr 08 09:35:20 <mircea_popescu>	Guest31437 are you the forum wealth advisor guy ?
Apr 08 09:35:22 <thestringpuller>	;;volume
Apr 08 09:35:22 <gribble>	Error: "volume" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 09:35:28 <thestringpuller>	it there a way to see volume?
Apr 08 09:35:34 <jurov>	;;depth
Apr 08 09:35:35 <gribble>	Error: "depth" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 09:35:38 <jurov>	dunno
Apr 08 09:35:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 08 09:35:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 188.50004, Best ask: 188.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39996, Last trade: 188.50004, 24 hour volume: 88117.25656920, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 170.38540
Apr 08 09:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 39 @ 0.12811778 = 4.9966 BTC [+]
Apr 08 09:36:08 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 9999999
Apr 08 09:36:08 <gribble>	There are currently 38550.022 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999.0 USD, worth 196430772.993 USD in total. | Data vintage: 56.0385 seconds
Apr 08 09:36:10 <Guest31437>	mircea - yes. MPOE let me know about this resource, figured I'd check it out.
Apr 08 09:36:14 <thestringpuller>	mpoe users are being very cautious...
Apr 08 09:36:30 <thestringpuller>	perhaps the BCB has lost control of the price
Apr 08 09:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	Guest31437 hehe okay.
Apr 08 09:37:16 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller jus' fer you, fresh from the user contributed pits : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13654259702.png
Apr 08 09:42:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C155T] 10 @ 0.24917244 = 2.4917 BTC [+]
Apr 08 09:43:40 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 08 09:43:50 <kakobrekla>	say something bad about devs so we get more cheap coins , quikcly
Apr 08 09:44:07 <splnkr>	devz sux
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Apr 08 09:44:21 <kakobrekla>	these beans are shit.
Apr 08 09:44:26 <kakobrekla>	i mean, these devs are shit.
Apr 08 09:44:51 <splnkr>	unless they're magic devs, in which case you can use them to make a devstalk
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Apr 08 09:45:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99999999
Apr 08 09:45:30 <gribble>	There are currently 38837.418 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 420348159.519 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds
Apr 08 09:45:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 09:45:37 <gribble>	There are currently 31438380 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11294377.3662 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.7703 seconds
Apr 08 09:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla aww why haet.
Apr 08 09:45:49 <splnkr>	if you're lucky, this devstalk will lead to untold riches; but there's a good chance there's also an angry giant up there waiting to crush you
Apr 08 09:45:57 <splnkr>	sounds basically like bitcoin, right? =P
Apr 08 09:46:06 <kakobrekla>	cause devs suck at life i herd
Apr 08 09:46:09 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 08 09:46:14 <mircea_popescu>	hehehe
Apr 08 09:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	actually, i think you'll like the bitcoin/fiat relationship one
Apr 08 09:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	where was it
Apr 08 09:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136542105834.jpg
Apr 08 09:46:50 <kakobrekla>	:D
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Apr 08 09:50:08 <thestringpuller>	what is that supposed to mean popescu "A ponzi could not have survived april 3 through 7th"
Apr 08 09:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	well... trend trading tends to go bust when the trend leaves.
Apr 08 09:51:53 <ThickAsThieves>	my prediction of a plateau is holding true so far
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Apr 08 09:52:06 <thestringpuller>	plateau hasn't arrived yet
Apr 08 09:52:09 <thestringpuller>	maybe 200 a coin?
Apr 08 09:52:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean short term
Apr 08 09:52:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm looking at correlation of bitcoins available to bitcoin value
Apr 08 09:52:44 <ThickAsThieves>	along with bids dollars up
Apr 08 09:52:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 09:52:56 <gribble>	There are currently 31438713 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11320552.5806 USD in total. | Data vintage: 106.2635 seconds
Apr 08 09:53:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99999999
Apr 08 09:53:05 <gribble>	There are currently 39373.803 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 420456772.352 USD in total. | Data vintage: 114.6406 seconds
Apr 08 09:53:17 <Namworld>	I know plenty of people (including myself) are just holding to BTC, which reduce available BTC
Apr 08 09:53:26 <Namworld>	actually not true... I've been selling a bit
Apr 08 09:53:29 <deadweasel>	14,000 in gox queue
Apr 08 09:53:33 <ThickAsThieves>	price should continue to hold
Apr 08 09:53:49 <ThickAsThieves>	til coins available comes down, or bid dollar total goes up
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Apr 08 09:54:18 <Namworld>	But also tons of news about BTC and rising prices...
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Apr 08 09:54:29 <Namworld>	I guess it's just attracting lots of capital
Apr 08 09:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	this one special for asciilifeform http://m.ibtimes.co.uk/italy-robbery-a9-van-heist-454638.html
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Apr 08 09:56:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00247 BTC [+]
Apr 08 09:56:21 <jcpham>	$1000 correction
Apr 08 09:56:34 <jcpham>	needs moar digit
Apr 08 09:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	fuck you omg
Apr 08 09:57:09 <mircea_popescu>	if i end up having to change mpsics each month ;(
Apr 08 09:57:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C161T] 12 @ 0.22895486 = 2.7475 BTC
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Apr 08 09:58:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000649 = 0.0019 BTC [+]
Apr 08 09:58:55 <MJR_>	its not too standard, but it is plenty codey
Apr 08 09:59:00 <MJR_>	so it all evens out...
Apr 08 09:59:02 <MJR_>	:)
Apr 08 09:59:13 <Namworld>	we're already almost at 200...
Apr 08 09:59:17 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 08 09:59:20 <Namworld>	options will need changing...
Apr 08 09:59:30 <MJR_>	maybe the price goes wherever he sets the highest option
Apr 08 09:59:33 <Namworld>	then again and again... and then maybe backward...
Apr 08 09:59:36 <bit_nutz>	anyone know if price to join mpex is still 30 btc?  seems ridiculously high
Apr 08 09:59:41 <MJR_>	LOL
Apr 08 09:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	bit_nutz yes, it is.
Apr 08 09:59:45 <MJR_>	still 30 btc
Apr 08 09:59:49 <Namworld>	yes, still 30 BTC
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Apr 08 10:00:02 <ThickAsThieves>	if you make opts up to 400, will you then go to $5 increments?
Apr 08 10:00:06 <MJR_>	go to coinbr...thats prob what you are looking for
Apr 08 10:00:06 <ThickAsThieves>	or such
Apr 08 10:00:08 <Namworld>	So like over 5k USD to join
Apr 08 10:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves probably.
Apr 08 10:00:14 <bit_nutz>	thanks MP.  any plan to bring that down?
Apr 08 10:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	bit_nutz no, it is onl;y going up.
Apr 08 10:00:27 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 08 10:00:30 <Namworld>	It's never going to go down...
Apr 08 10:00:37 <MJR_>	bit_nutz: coinbr is the way to go
Apr 08 10:00:42 <Namworld>	No matter how high BTC price goes up.
Apr 08 10:00:49 <ThickAsThieves>	MP does not go down
Apr 08 10:00:51 <ThickAsThieves>	sry
Apr 08 10:00:53 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 08 10:01:02 <mircea_popescu>	actually i do, if i like the girl.
Apr 08 10:01:07 <MJR_>	bit_nutz: it is a broker, while MPEX is an exchange...different models, i think you are looking for a few trades without a huge investmenet
Apr 08 10:01:53 <MJR_>	bit_nutz: if you need or want a referral code, hit me up
Apr 08 10:01:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 9999999
Apr 08 10:01:55 <gribble>	There are currently 39116.983 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999.0 USD, worth 196584826.522 USD in total. | Data vintage: 86.4966 seconds
Apr 08 10:01:59 <bit_nutz>	exactly, MJR, thank you very much.  actually looking for both, but no way can i convince anyone to get in at that price
Apr 08 10:02:05 <bVector>	if anyone is looking to make some guaranteed money icbit is looking for market makers
Apr 08 10:02:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 10:02:06 <gribble>	There are currently 31431215 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11320050.13 USD in total. | Data vintage: 97.7643 seconds
Apr 08 10:02:12 <jurov>	someone forgot to offer coinbr affiliate url ;)
Apr 08 10:02:20 <bVector>	contango is >$50 on their exchange
Apr 08 10:02:32 <ThickAsThieves>	https://coinbr.com/ref?c=Q9gPSuUvYS
Apr 08 10:02:41 <MJR_>	damn you beating me to the punch lol
Apr 08 10:02:42 <MJR_>	https://coinbr.com/ref?c=K61tnZTE2J
Apr 08 10:02:47 <jurov>	haha
Apr 08 10:02:50 <ThickAsThieves>	mine is better tho
Apr 08 10:02:54 <MJR_>	hahaha
Apr 08 10:03:10 <MJR_>	his link is only for extra special traders...
Apr 08 10:03:16 <ThickAsThieves>	it comes with good karma and luck
Apr 08 10:03:17 <bit_nutz>	much appreciated fellas!
Apr 08 10:03:21 <MJR_>	no problem
Apr 08 10:03:25 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 08 10:03:27 <MJR_>	we are joking around, jurov runs coinbr
Apr 08 10:03:36 <bit_nutz>	i'll create two accounts :)
Apr 08 10:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 25 @ 0.1535142 = 3.8379 BTC [+]
Apr 08 10:03:46 <MJR_>	and has a referral program, but that being said, its still the best option to trade on mpex without paying 30btc
Apr 08 10:04:29 <bit_nutz>	coinbr's seat itself starting to price in....just like one on the comex
Apr 08 10:04:36 <MJR_>	bit_nutz: you'll get twice the account management fees :( don't recommend that approach, also small fee to withdraw so deposit only what you plan to invest
Apr 08 10:04:50 <MJR_>	thats the idea
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Apr 08 10:05:30 <jurov>	the idea is not to use coinbr as wallet
Apr 08 10:05:33 <MJR_>	TBH, if the future goes the way I think it will, $6k for a seat on MPeX is chump change
Apr 08 10:05:34 <bit_nutz>	yeah unfortunately not much in the way of alternatives.  i greatly appreciate the info so far.  I will take a look at coinbr
Apr 08 10:05:56 <bit_nutz>	totally agreed mjr
Apr 08 10:05:59 <MJR_>	has anyone actually done the NYSE seat vs MPeX seat metric indicator?
Apr 08 10:06:42 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov, when/how do referral monies get deposited?
Apr 08 10:06:45 <MJR_>	I honestly think that soon we will move past OMG its bitcoins
Apr 08 10:06:55 <Namworld>	idk, but I'm glad i got my MPEx account months ago
Apr 08 10:06:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i think i referred bgupta
Apr 08 10:06:58 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves: once every week or two
Apr 08 10:07:01 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Apr 08 10:07:07 <MJR_>	and people will just weigh going public on which one provides the best access to capital for the lowest fees...
Apr 08 10:07:55 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 10:07:57 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 76.902355 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.154111458378 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 08 10:08:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 08 10:08:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 188.90000, Best ask: 189.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 189.00000, 24 hour volume: 88206.66727086, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 170.78915
Apr 08 10:09:58 <jcpham>	it might have been a bubble last week
Apr 08 10:10:05 <jcpham>	now we're correcting to 4 digits
Apr 08 10:10:10 <jcpham>	watch
Apr 08 10:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	kinda the idea.
Apr 08 10:10:27 <jcpham>	zoom.
Apr 08 10:10:49 <bVector>	you cant define a bubble in the present
Apr 08 10:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	bVector i'm not sure who'd have the guts to MM someone else's service.
Apr 08 10:12:05 <bVector>	mircea_popescu: I know right? guy has been liquidating contracts below market value instead of MM himself
Apr 08 10:12:08 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: will you have to adjust calls to 1000 soon?
Apr 08 10:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	bVector which seems suspect. i had an adventure mming it months ago
Apr 08 10:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	it didn't work too well, he got called out for it, fixed some stuff then
Apr 08 10:13:08 <mircea_popescu>	but it seems it relapsed.
Apr 08 10:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller well im sure eventually.
Apr 08 10:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	bVector http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/
Apr 08 10:13:46 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 08 10:14:28 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 180
Apr 08 10:14:30 <gribble>	There are currently 3089.0012 bitcoins demanded at or over 180.0 USD, worth 566325.439336 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0049 seconds
Apr 08 10:14:40 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 200
Apr 08 10:14:40 <gribble>	There are currently 9862.9621 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1929350.42126 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.2263 seconds
Apr 08 10:14:46 <bVector>	mircea_popescu: oh haha I had read that already, but I didnt notice it was from you
Apr 08 10:14:52 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 08 10:14:56 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 170.08
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Apr 08 10:14:59 <mircea_popescu>	i c
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Apr 08 10:15:48 <jurov>	new coin* service: www.coinslut.com
Apr 08 10:15:55 <jurov>	ffuuuu expensive as hell
Apr 08 10:16:53 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of which
Apr 08 10:17:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99999999
Apr 08 10:17:08 <gribble>	There are currently 39430.078 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 420409427.646 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Apr 08 10:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	twitter hottie : @Mircea_Popescu Yes. I don't want to see dude feet any more than I have to.
Apr 08 10:17:21 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 10:17:21 <gribble>	There are currently 31457697 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11443716.5492 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.4931 seconds
Apr 08 10:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	my reply : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/vali-perfu-grupu-de-puleti-si-succesele-online-trei-pasi-simpli/  Scroll down to last pic. I'm wearing the suit.
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Apr 08 10:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	her reply is probably arriving chunked.
Apr 08 10:18:30 <ThickAsThieves>	plateau coming to an end soon probly
Apr 08 10:18:35 <ThickAsThieves>	uptick possible
Apr 08 10:18:47 <MJR_>	yes i saw coinslut
Apr 08 10:18:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 130 @ 0.00301846 = 0.3924 BTC [+]
Apr 08 10:18:56 <MJR_>	another imitator of buttcoin i suppose
Apr 08 10:19:01 <MJR_>	jk
Apr 08 10:19:57 <ThickAsThieves>	there it goes!
Apr 08 10:20:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 08 10:20:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 190.98699, Best ask: 190.98700, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 190.98700, 24 hour volume: 87974.69014358, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 171.11316
Apr 08 10:20:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 10:20:23 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2.538403 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00508693119062 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
Apr 08 10:20:28 <bVector>	mircea_popescu: is there a better site with bitcoin futures?
Apr 08 10:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	bVector the jesse powell character is making something
Apr 08 10:20:49 <mircea_popescu>	kraken.com
Apr 08 10:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	maybe tghat works out.
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Apr 08 10:23:41 <bVector>	is he known to be trusted? I haven't heard of him
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Apr 08 10:27:37 <deadweasel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170394.new#new
Apr 08 10:27:48 <deadweasel>	scammers be scammin
Apr 08 10:28:58 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 08 10:28:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 192.20000, Best ask: 193.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 192.20000, 24 hour volume: 88061.73622108, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 171.14007
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Apr 08 10:30:50 <MJR_>	has anything come of kraken yet? their website still had ipsum dolor text on it last i saw
Apr 08 10:31:00 <mircea_popescu>	bVector he's of the old guard.
Apr 08 10:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	haven't heard him associated with any serious scam.
Apr 08 10:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ not afauik
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Apr 08 10:34:08 <punkman>	who's jesse powell?
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Apr 08 10:35:08 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 08 10:35:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 192.99001, Best ask: 193.09998, Bid-ask spread: 0.10997, Last trade: 191.50000, 24 hour volume: 90183.15818362, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 193.45000, 24 hour vwap: 171.75101
Apr 08 10:35:17 <pizzaman1337>	golly
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Apr 08 10:36:35 <deadweasel>	 punkman> who's jesse powell?
Apr 08 10:36:36 <deadweasel>	 punkman> who's jesse powell?
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Apr 08 10:37:02 <deadweasel>	kraken guy?  any other projects?
Apr 08 10:37:25 <punkman>	btcx.com which redirectis to ogrr.com
Apr 08 10:37:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 220 @ 0.0029 = 0.638 BTC [-]
Apr 08 10:38:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 210 @ 0.00286 = 0.6006 BTC [-]
Apr 08 10:38:38 <punkman>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159974.0
Apr 08 10:38:51 <punkman>	^ kraken announcement
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Apr 08 10:41:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7889 BTC [+]
Apr 08 10:41:54 <ZedsterX>	kraken open?
Apr 08 10:42:29 <ZedsterX>	nope
Apr 08 10:43:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 6 @ 0.15614512 = 0.9369 BTC [+]
Apr 08 10:43:39 <taub>	that's a really slick looking site
Apr 08 10:43:50 <punkman>	https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86939820/pics/bitcoin/20130404_Kraken_Bernanke.png heh
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Apr 08 10:44:58 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 10:45:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 194.50000, Best ask: 194.73000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23000, Last trade: 194.73000, 24 hour volume: 89843.21704685, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.50002, 24 hour vwap: 172.12077
Apr 08 10:45:01 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: why is the bot not quoting?
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Apr 08 10:46:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99999999
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Apr 08 10:46:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 10:47:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlaglag
Apr 08 10:47:11 <gribble>	Error: "goxlaglag" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 10:47:14 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
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Apr 08 10:47:57 <deadweasel>	is kraken doing an ipo on mpex
Apr 08 10:48:00 <deadweasel>	?
Apr 08 10:48:08 <gribble>	There are currently 36581.849 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 419801324.502 USD in total. | Data vintage: 164.9477 seconds
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Apr 08 10:48:54 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 08 10:48:55 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 170.98
Apr 08 10:48:59 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
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Apr 08 10:49:21 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
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Apr 08 10:50:58 <gribble>	There are currently 31464437 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11366933.4495 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0111 seconds
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Apr 08 10:51:32 <ThickAsThieves>	195 soon if gox will allow it
Apr 08 10:52:01 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 10:52:04 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 58.739646 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.117713592902 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
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Apr 08 10:52:46 <lippoper>	;;avg
Apr 08 10:52:47 <gribble>	Error: "avg" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 10:52:49 <lippoper>	;;average
Apr 08 10:52:50 <ThickAsThieves>	its also amazing that ltc is holding value thru this
Apr 08 10:52:51 <gribble>	Error: "average" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 10:52:53 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 08 10:52:53 <lippoper>	$avg
Apr 08 10:52:54 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 171.16
Apr 08 10:52:55 <mpexbot>	lippoper: 171.16
Apr 08 10:52:58 <lippoper>	ehehe
Apr 08 10:53:11 <lippoper>	;;asks 300
Apr 08 10:53:14 <gribble>	There are currently 15948.06 bitcoins offered at or under 300.0 USD, worth 3706948.78658 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Apr 08 10:53:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 199.94
Apr 08 10:53:24 <gribble>	There are currently 3855.1291 bitcoins offered at or under 199.94 USD, worth 759220.047747 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.5840 seconds
Apr 08 10:53:27 <lippoper>	;;asks 50
Apr 08 10:53:30 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.8828 seconds
Apr 08 10:53:37 <lippoper>	;;asks 90
Apr 08 10:53:37 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.6206 seconds
Apr 08 10:53:41 <lippoper>	;;asks 110
Apr 08 10:53:41 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 110.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 27.8344 seconds
Apr 08 10:53:46 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 08 10:53:47 <lippoper>	;;asks 150
Apr 08 10:53:48 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.5021 seconds
Apr 08 10:53:50 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 08 10:53:51 <lippoper>	wow
Apr 08 10:53:55 <ThickAsThieves>	bids
Apr 08 10:54:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 150
Apr 08 10:54:00 <gribble>	There are currently 18429.761 bitcoins demanded at or over 150.0 USD, worth 3051393.88302 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.7858 seconds
Apr 08 10:54:01 <lippoper>	doh
Apr 08 10:54:04 <lippoper>	thanks
Apr 08 10:54:22 <lippoper>	;;bids 50
Apr 08 10:54:23 <gribble>	There are currently 80504.919 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 8958437.24309 USD in total. | Data vintage: 68.8759 seconds
Apr 08 10:54:26 <lippoper>	lol
Apr 08 10:54:41 <lippoper>	;;bids 30
Apr 08 10:54:42 <gribble>	There are currently 105045.26 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 9923771.06027 USD in total. | Data vintage: 88.2456 seconds
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Apr 08 10:55:05 <ThickAsThieves>	lag at 219s...
Apr 08 10:55:23 <ThickAsThieves>	the price is too damn high!
Apr 08 10:56:24 <lippoper>	the rent is too damn high
Apr 08 10:56:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 70 @ 0.13203322 = 9.2423 BTC [+]
Apr 08 10:56:26 <lippoper>	sell?
Apr 08 10:56:35 <lippoper>	hedge?
Apr 08 10:56:51 <lippoper>	what to hedge with, LTCs?
Apr 08 10:56:55 <lippoper>	PPCs
Apr 08 10:56:58 <lippoper>	PCPs?
Apr 08 10:57:00 <lippoper>	hehe
Apr 08 10:57:01 <pizzaman1337>	mpex options
Apr 08 10:57:31 <lippoper>	I don't really understand the options at all ;-(
Apr 08 10:57:43 <lippoper>	is there a FAQ for like 4 year olds?
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Apr 08 10:58:29 <zomgwtfninjabbq>	hi all
Apr 08 10:58:40 <MJR_>	zomgwtfninjabbq: what up!
Apr 08 10:59:40 <ThickAsThieves>	its kinda suspicious that gox and bitcoincharts lag out at the same time
Apr 08 10:59:56 <ThickAsThieves>	not absurd, but if you are the tinfoil hat type...
Apr 08 11:00:19 <deadweasel>	lippoper: https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/call-option-calculation/?PHPSESSID=jabiqffp0mrceg0a2j6u43tm65
Apr 08 11:01:00 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 08 11:01:01 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 08 11:01:09 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 08 11:01:09 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 08 11:01:16 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlags
Apr 08 11:01:17 <gribble>	Error: "goxlags" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 11:01:18 <pizzaman1337>	aw
Apr 08 11:01:18 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 11:01:19 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 357.72889 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.716884690228 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 08 11:01:21 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 11:01:22 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 360.213922 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.721864666532 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 08 11:02:31 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 08 11:02:34 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 171.67
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Apr 08 11:08:19 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 11:08:20 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 14.881836 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0298230327187 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Apr 08 11:08:38 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Apr 08 11:08:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 192.07865, Best ask: 193.99900, Bid-ask spread: 1.92035, Last trade: 190.00000, 24 hour volume: 90533.62221495, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 172.38382
Apr 08 11:09:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00247 BTC [+]
Apr 08 11:09:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.00248 = 0.0074 BTC [+]
Apr 08 11:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/08/sticky-fingers-thieves-steal-5-tons-nutella-chocolate-spread-from-trailer-in/
Apr 08 11:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin's competition.
Apr 08 11:11:34 <punkman>	https://peerbet.org/list.php
Apr 08 11:11:48 <ThickAsThieves>	5 tons is only $20000?
Apr 08 11:12:14 <ThickAsThieves>	glad i'm not in the sugary spread business
Apr 08 11:12:24 <zomgwtfninjabbq>	seriously thats weak sauce
Apr 08 11:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	how much would you want it to be
Apr 08 11:13:02 <lippoper>	as much as maple syrup
Apr 08 11:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	16 euros a kg. seems plenty.
Apr 08 11:13:08 <zomgwtfninjabbq>	5 tons should be more
Apr 08 11:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	maple syrup is overpriced.
Apr 08 11:13:14 <MJR_>	;;calc 0.43325828 * 172
Apr 08 11:13:14 <gribble>	74.52042416
Apr 08 11:13:19 <gesell>	ThickAsThieves: as i remember, mtgox sponsors bitcoincharts hosting so not so odd i guess that they would experiance similar uptimes
Apr 08 11:13:33 <mircea_popescu>	yeah! points at bitcoinity :D
Apr 08 11:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	zomgwtfninjabbq hm actually you have a point, 5 tons for 16k is cheapo
Apr 08 11:13:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i use bitcoinity now on my tablet as a 2nd monitor
Apr 08 11:13:57 <zomgwtfninjabbq>	look at the OP price @ walmart http://www.walmart.com/ip/17194868?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=21486607510&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem
Apr 08 11:14:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm so 2013
Apr 08 11:14:23 <zomgwtfninjabbq>	those guys should be millionaries if they can move the product lol
Apr 08 11:14:41 <lippoper>	26.5oz = $115
Apr 08 11:14:47 <zomgwtfninjabbq>	its a pack of 12
Apr 08 11:15:00 <zomgwtfninjabbq>	in all fairness :)
Apr 08 11:15:31 <lippoper>	12*26.5 = $115
Apr 08 11:15:39 <lippoper>	;;calc 12*26.5
Apr 08 11:15:40 <gribble>	318
Apr 08 11:15:44 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 08 11:15:45 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 23 hours, 33 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 08 11:15:57 <lippoper>	;;seen KRS1
Apr 08 11:15:57 <gribble>	KRS1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 13 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <KRS1> then unF unF unF all night long buttsecks
Apr 08 11:17:24 <ThickAsThieves>	whats the next largest market to gox?
Apr 08 11:17:35 <lippoper>	lol
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Apr 08 11:17:52 <ThickAsThieves>	there was a girl in here!
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Apr 08 11:17:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 08 11:18:13 <jcpham>	GO AWAY NO SECUITIES HERE gp5st
Apr 08 11:18:21 <gp5st>	?
Apr 08 11:18:29 *	jcpham laughs
Apr 08 11:18:37 <jcpham>	i saw what coingenuity said
Apr 08 11:18:52 <gp5st>	yes, i don't expect to be anonomous on here
Apr 08 11:19:09 <gp5st>	i'm just curious why you're sending me away before i even said anything
Apr 08 11:19:23 <lippoper>	mtgox first, then bitstamp ?
Apr 08 11:19:29 <coingenuity>	hes just joking
Apr 08 11:19:34 <lippoper>	btc-e
Apr 08 11:19:53 <lippoper>	1. mtgox
Apr 08 11:19:53 <lippoper>	2. bitstamp
Apr 08 11:19:53 <lippoper>	3. btc-e
Apr 08 11:20:30 <ThickAsThieves>	182
Apr 08 11:20:34 <ThickAsThieves>	190
Apr 08 11:20:36 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 08 11:20:47 <lippoper>	193 at bitstamp
Apr 08 11:20:53 <lippoper>	180 at btc-e
Apr 08 11:20:58 <lippoper>	190 at gox
Apr 08 11:21:13 <ThickAsThieves>	8 minites ago...
Apr 08 11:21:17 <ThickAsThieves>	minutes*
Apr 08 11:21:27 <lippoper>	not that much different now
Apr 08 11:21:32 <lippoper>	lol
Apr 08 11:21:35 <lippoper>	180
Apr 08 11:21:54 <lippoper>	;goxlag
Apr 08 11:21:58 <lippoper>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 11:21:59 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 530.31955 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.06275444045 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 08 11:22:16 <lippoper>	There are no sell orders in mtgox LMAO
Apr 08 11:22:22 <lippoper>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets?currency=USD&exchange=mtgox
Apr 08 11:22:35 <MJR_>	so...
Apr 08 11:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C167T] 12 @ 0.21687369 = 2.6025 BTC
Apr 08 11:22:50 <lippoper>	so it rebounded right back
Apr 08 11:23:08 <lippoper>	to 190 and back to 180
Apr 08 11:23:13 <lippoper>	it looks crazy
Apr 08 11:23:15 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 08 11:23:26 <lippoper>	and back again
Apr 08 11:23:43 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 11:23:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 185.00000, Best ask: 188.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.00000, Last trade: 188.00000, 24 hour volume: 90533.62221495, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 172.38382
Apr 08 11:24:04 <deadweasel>	rip roarin' monday!
Apr 08 11:24:06 <taub>	trading with this lag is so risky...
Apr 08 11:24:10 <lippoper>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 11:24:11 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 547.256203 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.09669530343 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 08 11:24:12 <MJR_>	its hilarious is what it is
Apr 08 11:24:17 <MJR_>	HAHAHA
Apr 08 11:24:21 <deadweasel>	gotta get your sea legs lippoper
Apr 08 11:24:21 <MJR_>	that is insane lag
Apr 08 11:24:46 <lippoper>	on btc-e.com last night, someone sold and bought a btc for 1 euro, fat finger typo, brought the price down temporarily
Apr 08 11:24:47 <MJR_>	watch spread hit $10, people hitting both bid and ask...cuz limit orders are too l33t
Apr 08 11:25:19 <taub>	with limit you risk getting your order in in 10 minutes and price being way somewhere else already
Apr 08 11:25:32 <jcpham>	i was joking gp5st
Apr 08 11:25:33 <taub>	and not getting a fill, with market order the same, getting a fill when you DONT want it hah
Apr 08 11:25:34 <jcpham>	totally
Apr 08 11:26:16 <gp5st>	jcpham: no worries:)
Apr 08 11:26:26 <MJR_>	well...good point...same risk with market
Apr 08 11:26:37 <MJR_>	but at least i know what price i would get with limit
Apr 08 11:26:49 <MJR_>	dude the book is so flat right now
Apr 08 11:26:58 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 11:26:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 189.00000, Best ask: 189.09253, Bid-ask spread: 0.09253, Last trade: 189.09253, 24 hour volume: 90533.62221495, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 172.38382
Apr 08 11:27:07 <MJR_>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 11:27:08 <gribble>	There are currently 31464316 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10965315.338 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.2956 seconds
Apr 08 11:27:21 <lippoper>	;;bids 190
Apr 08 11:27:21 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 190.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 68.5139 seconds
Apr 08 11:27:29 <lippoper>	;;bids 189
Apr 08 11:27:30 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 189.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.1948 seconds
Apr 08 11:27:40 <lippoper>	;;bids 188
Apr 08 11:27:41 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 188.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 88.2749 seconds
Apr 08 11:27:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99999999999
Apr 08 11:27:45 <gribble>	There are currently 38611.831 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 124133572427.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 92.3664 seconds
Apr 08 11:27:50 <lippoper>	;;asks 188
Apr 08 11:27:50 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 188.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 97.7439 seconds
Apr 08 11:28:02 <lippoper>	;;asks 185
Apr 08 11:28:03 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 185.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 110.1619 seconds
Apr 08 11:28:06 <lippoper>	;;bids 185
Apr 08 11:28:06 <gribble>	There are currently 59.464252 bitcoins demanded at or over 185.0 USD, worth 11003.0167388 USD in total. | Data vintage: 113.8411 seconds
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Apr 08 11:28:39 <lippoper>	;;seen krs-1
Apr 08 11:28:40 <gribble>	krs-1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <KRS-1> you should use haskell
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Apr 08 11:31:44 <MJR_>	damn the 194 bubble popped
Apr 08 11:31:54 <MJR_>	we're only at 188 now :(
Apr 08 11:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3102 = 0.6204 BTC [+]
Apr 08 11:34:17 <mircea_popescu>	aww
Apr 08 11:34:31 <taub>	as long as 180 holds
Apr 08 11:34:58 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 08 11:35:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.94810, Best ask: 184.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05190, Last trade: 184.00000, 24 hour volume: 90533.62221495, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 172.38382
Apr 08 11:35:03 <error4733>	now way maybe a big correction to 150 ?
Apr 08 11:35:11 <error4733>	:D
Apr 08 11:35:29 <bitesak>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 11:35:30 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 626.757022 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.25601405457 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
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Apr 08 11:36:30 <jurov>	Mt. Gox verification queue: 15500
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Apr 08 11:40:28 <MJR_>	geez that would be nice
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Apr 08 11:41:01 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 11:41:01 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 723.534724 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.4499554858 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 08 11:41:31 <troc>	they claim 21 employess will/are processing that queue
Apr 08 11:42:06 <troc>	how long does it take to actually verify a jpg do some data input ?
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Apr 08 11:43:01 <troc>	do they actually do a proper authenticity check from some one in say uruguay ?
Apr 08 11:43:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.25001 BTC [-]
Apr 08 11:43:21 <troc>	document authenticity*
Apr 08 11:43:36 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 08 11:43:37 <jurov>	can't imagine... they would annoy all emmassies in tokyo
Apr 08 11:43:44 <jurov>	*embassies
Apr 08 11:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	the ability to verify arbitrary worldwide identity documents costs more than the entire bitcoin implicit mkt cap
Apr 08 11:44:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 10 @ 0.25 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Apr 08 11:44:47 <troc>	so this AML/KYC is a tick box excercise ?
Apr 08 11:44:55 <troc>	they have the data just in case
Apr 08 11:44:56 <punkman>	theatre
Apr 08 11:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	well the entire system is nonsense, so.
Apr 08 11:45:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 16 @ 0.24 = 3.84 BTC [-]
Apr 08 11:45:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.89 BTC [-]
Apr 08 11:45:25 <mircea_popescu>	aml/kyc exists so administration can claim "it's bank's fault" no matter what.
Apr 08 11:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	bank accepts this because it's nationalised anyway, not owned by someone to tell administration to get bent.
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Apr 08 11:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3102 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 11:50:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+]
Apr 08 11:50:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 32 @ 0.119 = 3.808 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 11:52:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 34 @ 0.0038 = 0.1292 BTC [-]
Apr 08 11:52:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00336 BTC [-]
Apr 08 11:52:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.003222 = 0.0322 BTC [-]
Apr 08 11:52:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 28 @ 0.003221 = 0.0902 BTC [-]
Apr 08 11:52:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 27 @ 0.00321 = 0.0867 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 11:56:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 11:56:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 999999999
Apr 08 11:56:48 <gribble>	There are currently 31463914 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11289394.0852 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds
Apr 08 11:56:49 <gribble>	There are currently 42369.685 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3024365298.1 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.4389 seconds
Apr 08 11:57:04 <ThickAsThieves>	price gon dip more
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Apr 08 11:59:43 <MJR_>	what was that second order volatility instrument jurov?
Apr 08 11:59:54 <MJR_>	volatility of volatility
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Apr 08 12:00:22 <jurov>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-E , choose Options
Apr 08 12:00:37 <jurov>	but, as i said, it may be unusable
Apr 08 12:00:48 <MJR_>	yeah...we'll see, worth looking at
Apr 08 12:00:54 <MJR_>	could be good with a short straddle
Apr 08 12:00:59 <MJR_>	:)
Apr 08 12:01:20 <jurov>	plus, ukto asks 10% fee on them
Apr 08 12:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	"Dodd-Frank and Basel III rules are changing the OTC derivatives landscape significantly. http://bit.ly/Zd8VLy"
Apr 08 12:01:31 <mircea_popescu>	and i'm like... yeah, significantly.
Apr 08 12:01:54 <MJR_>	its mpoe bond pass through?
Apr 08 12:02:00 <jurov>	yes
Apr 08 12:02:11 <MJR_>	that is a measure of volatility?
Apr 08 12:02:31 <jurov>	if there's very high volatility, bonds lose
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Apr 08 12:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	that's not exactly it
Apr 08 12:02:49 <jurov>	if there's medium volatility, they are more profitable
Apr 08 12:02:53 <MJR_>	yeah, its a pseudo measure
Apr 08 12:02:56 <jurov>	so yeah it's nontrivial
Apr 08 12:03:07 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 08 12:03:10 <MJR_>	something though
Apr 08 12:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, i'd say high volatility increases their risk to either lose a lot or make a lot,.
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Apr 08 12:03:25 <MJR_>	but it doesn't really do well for directional choices
Apr 08 12:03:50 <MJR_>	that is true...a strong downward pressure could prob make a ton right now
Apr 08 12:03:53 <jurov>	alternatively, you can do second order for difficulty
Apr 08 12:04:09 <jurov>	options for https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-E
Apr 08 12:04:52 <MJR_>	that is cool too
Apr 08 12:05:33 <MJR_>	i guess what i was thinking was an option on a straddle...
Apr 08 12:06:13 <jurov>	if you dare to price something like that...
Apr 08 12:08:30 <ThickAsThieves>	going up again
Apr 08 12:08:35 <ThickAsThieves>	or not
Apr 08 12:08:37 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 08 12:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 08 12:09:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.99000, Best ask: 181.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 181.00000, 24 hour volume: 93351.05877440, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 173.59011
Apr 08 12:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170399.0 this is lol
Apr 08 12:12:09 <ThickAsThieves>	considering the wallet has received 1.307 total, the man made a big impact
Apr 08 12:12:13 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 08 12:12:55 <TomServo>	heh, 'moment of weakness'.  Yes, I'm sure it was fleeting.
Apr 08 12:13:40 <thestringpuller>	This is the greatest thing I have ever seen.
Apr 08 12:16:21 <pgp>	what about implied volatility on MPOE options?
Apr 08 12:16:44 <pgp>	is their some sort of measure?
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Apr 08 12:17:38 <thestringpuller>	LOL
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Apr 08 12:17:43 <ThickAsThieves>	179.50
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Apr 08 12:19:18 <jurov>	pgp, their price?
Apr 08 12:19:40 <pgp>	not really - wouldn't work that way...
Apr 08 12:20:08 <thestringpuller>	jurov: doesn't mpoe take in a volatility greek in it's pricing
Apr 08 12:20:18 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 12:20:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.10000, Best ask: 181.76618, Bid-ask spread: 1.66618, Last trade: 180.10000, 24 hour volume: 93351.05877440, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 173.59011
Apr 08 12:20:30 <jurov>	thestringpuller: how would i know?
Apr 08 12:20:36 <pgp>	and we're talking about the implied volatility on the 24 hour average...
Apr 08 12:20:49 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 08 12:20:51 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 08 12:20:55 <thestringpuller>	jurov: based on all the trades you've made I dunno
Apr 08 12:21:06 <pgp>	what?  vega?
Apr 08 12:21:09 <thestringpuller>	don't you know B-S or is that just smickles and popescu?
Apr 08 12:21:13 <MJR_>	http://www.bloomberg.com/video/bitcoin-market-represents-greed-analyst-says-X9C8_Bn2Tayvd_l46IYx2g.html
Apr 08 12:21:17 <MJR_>	^^^ LOLZ
Apr 08 12:21:32 <MJR_>	SOCGen analyst using tulip analogy
Apr 08 12:21:40 <jurov>	but i don't know the formula. mp has his properietary one, smickles didn't release it too
Apr 08 12:21:55 <jurov>	it is certainly derived from greeks
Apr 08 12:22:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC [-]
Apr 08 12:23:41 <thestringpuller>	the BCB is doing it's job i seems
Apr 08 12:24:10 <thestringpuller>	it*
Apr 08 12:24:14 <thestringpuller>	:D
Apr 08 12:24:20 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 08 12:24:22 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 172.58
Apr 08 12:25:16 <lippoper>	watching video
Apr 08 12:26:50 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 12:26:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 175.00000, Best ask: 176.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 175.00000, 24 hour volume: 97038.53628561, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 174.54363
Apr 08 12:27:20 <lippoper>	buffering for ever
Apr 08 12:27:23 <lippoper>	argh
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Apr 08 12:27:30 <lippoper>	let me know when you're all done watching it
Apr 08 12:27:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 999999999999
Apr 08 12:27:37 <gribble>	There are currently 45540.708 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999999.0 USD, worth 1.42184431699e+12 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0295 seconds
Apr 08 12:27:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7889 BTC [+]
Apr 08 12:27:59 <ThickAsThieves>	still possibly 5000+ coins that might be sold into bids
Apr 08 12:28:08 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 5000
Apr 08 12:28:08 <gribble>	A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 836963.8067 USD and would take the last price down to 161.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 167.3928 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 32.2451 seconds
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Apr 08 12:29:02 <IronSalad>	-assets
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Apr 08 12:30:26 <lippoper>	so 161 eh?
Apr 08 12:30:32 <lippoper>	sell now, buy low?
Apr 08 12:30:50 <lippoper>	;;market --buy 5000
Apr 08 12:30:51 <gribble>	A market order to buy 5000 bitcoins right now would take 922755.3103 USD and would take the last price up to 193.9201 USD, resulting in an average price of 184.5511 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 62.1115 seconds
Apr 08 12:30:52 <Scrat>	gox sucking major dick again
Apr 08 12:30:55 <Scrat>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 12:30:58 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 113.779906 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.228013657681 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 08 12:31:30 <lippoper>	with this coxlag, it's too late
Apr 08 12:31:39 <lippoper>	by the time i get the sell in, it'll be at the lowest
Apr 08 12:31:44 <lippoper>	lol
Apr 08 12:31:44 <Scrat>	it appears that legit customers are ddos'ing the poor engine again
Apr 08 12:32:04 <lippoper>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 12:32:05 <lippoper>	$avg
Apr 08 12:32:08 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 12:32:10 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 147.167236 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.294921493178 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
Apr 08 12:32:10 <mpexbot>	lippoper: 174.38
Apr 08 12:32:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 173.00000, Best ask: 173.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 172.16000, 24 hour volume: 97038.53628561, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 174.54363
Apr 08 12:32:19 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 08 12:32:24 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 174.38
Apr 08 12:32:28 <pgp>	gox blows...
Apr 08 12:32:41 <thestringpuller>	Okay woo that's better
Apr 08 12:32:46 <pgp>	watching life in slow motion
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Apr 08 12:33:15 <lippoper>	we're going back to 175
Apr 08 12:33:35 <lippoper>	i mean 174
Apr 08 12:34:43 <kakobrekla>	i mean 17.4
Apr 08 12:35:38 <lippoper>	$avg
Apr 08 12:35:39 <mpexbot>	lippoper: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 08 12:35:46 <lippoper>	hehe
Apr 08 12:35:53 <lippoper>	bot error
Apr 08 12:35:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 9999999
Apr 08 12:35:58 <gribble>	There are currently 46302.391 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999.0 USD, worth 197897107.999 USD in total. | Data vintage: 64.0835 seconds
Apr 08 12:36:07 <ThickAsThieves>	could still fall under 170
Apr 08 12:36:20 <lippoper>	you figured that from the asks just now?
Apr 08 12:36:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.789 BTC [+]
Apr 08 12:36:41 <ThickAsThieves>	total coins for sale
Apr 08 12:36:41 <lippoper>	i knew i should've sold at 181, to buy back now
Apr 08 12:36:49 <ThickAsThieves>	it was 38000 this morning
Apr 08 12:36:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.789 BTC [+]
Apr 08 12:36:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 08 12:36:57 <gribble>	There are currently 31360932 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10408947.2577 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0105 seconds
Apr 08 12:37:11 <ThickAsThieves>	and total usd was 11.5m
Apr 08 12:37:21 <ThickAsThieves>	so we are deflating
Apr 08 12:37:21 <lippoper>	but that's due to the price drop
Apr 08 12:37:33 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 08 12:37:52 <kakobrekla>	just a weekend dip xD
Apr 08 12:37:57 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 08 12:38:04 <kakobrekla>	they tend not to happen over the weekend latley
Apr 08 12:38:07 <lippoper>	thought it was calculating 31360932 * 173 vs 31360932 * 185
Apr 08 12:38:08 <kakobrekla>	so it must be it
Apr 08 12:38:16 <lippoper>	;;calc 31360932 * 171
Apr 08 12:38:16 <gribble>	5362719372
Apr 08 12:38:25 <lippoper>	;;calc 31360932 * 185
Apr 08 12:38:26 <gribble>	5801772420
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Apr 08 12:39:26 <thestringpuller>	fjf
Apr 08 12:39:45 <lippoper>	just some dudes looking to make a quick buck
Apr 08 12:40:02 <lippoper>	;;market --sell 5000
Apr 08 12:40:05 <gribble>	A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 829476.2546 USD and would take the last price down to 160.3793 USD, resulting in an average price of 165.8953 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0005 seconds
Apr 08 12:40:28 <lippoper>	;;market --buy 5000
Apr 08 12:40:29 <gribble>	A market order to buy 5000 bitcoins right now would take 929727.7045 USD and would take the last price up to 193.9201 USD, resulting in an average price of 185.9455 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 23.6669 seconds
Apr 08 12:40:47 <lippoper>	you sell that for $829,476 and buy back lower when others panic sell.
Apr 08 12:41:01 <lippoper>	;;help
Apr 08 12:41:02 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Apr 08 12:41:41 <taub>	I think it's plausable that mtgox fakes lag
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Apr 08 12:42:01 <taub>	to help them time the market and make big profits themselves
Apr 08 12:42:23 <lippoper>	;;market buy --usd 829,476
Apr 08 12:42:23 <gribble>	Error: '829,476' is not a valid floating point number.
Apr 08 12:42:30 <taub>	they could look x mins into the future
Apr 08 12:42:33 <lippoper>	;;market buy --usd 829476
Apr 08 12:42:36 <gribble>	A market order to buy 829476.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would buy 4482.4317 bitcoins and would take the last price up to 192.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 185.0504 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0003 seconds
Apr 08 12:42:42 <MJR_>	already coming back
Apr 08 12:42:47 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 12:42:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 176.00000, Best ask: 178.90000, Bid-ask spread: 2.90000, Last trade: 178.90000, 24 hour volume: 97038.53628561, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 174.54363
Apr 08 12:42:58 <ThickAsThieves>	wait
Apr 08 12:43:22 <lippoper>	;;obip
Apr 08 12:43:22 <gribble>	(obip <width>) -- Calculate the "order book implied price", by finding the weighted average price of coins <width> BTC up and down from the spread.
Apr 08 12:43:52 <lippoper>	;;nextretarget
Apr 08 12:43:54 <gribble>	231839
Apr 08 12:44:02 <lippoper>	;;bcstats
Apr 08 12:44:04 <kakobrekla>	goxlag http://jezus.si:81/render/?title=Mtgox+Lag+-+1+hour&vtitle=Seconds&from=-1hour&width=500&height=250&until=now&areaMode=none&lineMode=connected&target=alias%28bitcoin.mtgox.lag%2C%22Mtgox_lag%22%29
Apr 08 12:44:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;obip 165-195
Apr 08 12:44:04 <gribble>	Error: '165-195' is not a valid floating point number.
Apr 08 12:44:05 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230317 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1522 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 21 hours, 36 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8894294.12027 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.91678
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Apr 08 12:44:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;obip 165 195
Apr 08 12:44:14 <gribble>	(obip <width>) -- Calculate the "order book implied price", by finding the weighted average price of coins <width> BTC up and down from the spread.
Apr 08 12:44:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.00995 = 0.1493 BTC [+]
Apr 08 12:44:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;obip 165
Apr 08 12:44:19 <gribble>	The weighted average price of BTC, 165.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 175.78545 USD. | Data vintage: 102.6372 seconds
Apr 08 12:44:26 <taub>	;;obip 9999
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Apr 08 12:44:28 <gribble>	The weighted average price of BTC, 9999.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 176.23661 USD. | Data vintage: 110.7134 seconds
Apr 08 12:44:40 <benkay>	bitcoin-qt is a goddamn resource hog.
Apr 08 12:44:44 <taub>	;;obip 99999
Apr 08 12:44:47 <gribble>	Error: The width provided extends past the edge of the order book. Please use a smaller width.
Apr 08 12:44:55 <lippoper>	;;totalbc
Apr 08 12:44:56 <gribble>	11007950.0
Apr 08 12:45:01 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99999999999
Apr 08 12:45:02 <gribble>	There are currently 45919.694 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 124134955395.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.5671 seconds
Apr 08 12:45:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;obip 45919
Apr 08 12:45:10 <gribble>	The weighted average price of BTC, 45919.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 596185.33923 USD. | Data vintage: 22.1521 seconds
Apr 08 12:45:29 <lippoper>	;;obip 6
Apr 08 12:45:30 <gribble>	The weighted average price of BTC, 6.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 176.99167 USD. | Data vintage: 42.9386 seconds
Apr 08 12:45:32 <taub>	yea lol that doesnt mean aynthing
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Apr 08 12:45:47 <lippoper>	;;obip 1
Apr 08 12:45:47 <gribble>	The weighted average price of BTC, 1.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 177.00000 USD. | Data vintage: 60.2608 seconds
Apr 08 12:46:20 <taub>	but the ratio of all btc offered / usd offered went from 299 to 240 during this dip
Apr 08 12:46:33 <taub>	wait, usd/btc
Apr 08 12:46:50 <ThickAsThieves>	so i think what we're seeing is, an initial run up from lack of coins on the market over the weekend, then everyone scrambling to get coins into gox this morning, then selling
Apr 08 12:47:04 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves; makes sense
Apr 08 12:47:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10289 BTC [+]
Apr 08 12:47:42 <lippoper>	makes sense
Apr 08 12:47:58 <lippoper>	(lulz)
Apr 08 12:47:59 <ThickAsThieves>	which puts our "real" price at about 169
Apr 08 12:48:13 <jurov>	butbutbut it's climbing again
Apr 08 12:48:22 <ThickAsThieves>	only reason it wouldnt dip that low is if sellers hold out and cause a nother dip later
Apr 08 12:48:26 <ThickAsThieves>	which would be prudent
Apr 08 12:49:04 <ThickAsThieves>	let bids build back up to 185 or so, then sell off again
Apr 08 12:49:33 <Skarr>	no lag!
Apr 08 12:49:53 <benkay>	"prudent"
Apr 08 12:50:13 <benkay>	how is it prudent for someone to sell these notionally-valued strings?
Apr 08 12:50:31 <ThickAsThieves>	well, for the past 3 months, its remained quite true that waiting to sell is prudent, no?
Apr 08 12:50:47 <ThickAsThieves>	lol bitcoinity rollercoaster
Apr 08 12:51:00 <benkay>	yeah but who cares about the past three months
Apr 08 12:51:06 <benkay>	this is disruptive fintech
Apr 08 12:51:10 <ThickAsThieves>	fuck everything nyah!
Apr 08 12:51:20 <benkay>	no i get it
Apr 08 12:51:29 <pgp>	disruptive fintech...  i like the sound of that
Apr 08 12:51:30 <benkay>	i'm just expressing disbelief at the sheer volume of idiots in the world
Apr 08 12:52:01 <ThickAsThieves>	you must be young
Apr 08 12:52:07 <Skarr>	I'm guessing we now have our range, 172-194. And we'll see a symmetric wedge develop within that, centered around the 183 price point, while another day of consolidation around this new price point occurs. Then the next leg-up.
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Apr 08 12:52:20 <pgp>	it is startling to see how quickly it's moving up...  $500 ain't so far away anymore...
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Apr 08 12:52:27 <Skarr>	ThickAsThieves - I'd agree fully your theory is what kick-started the run/sell-off.
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Apr 08 12:52:59 <lippoper>	almost halfway
Apr 08 12:53:04 <lippoper>	all within a month
Apr 08 12:53:09 <deadweasel>	weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  price coaster!  :D
Apr 08 12:53:27 <pgp>	It is also true that much of the liquidity dynamics has to do with mt gox back office operations....
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Apr 08 12:53:30 <ThickAsThieves>	if you think about, you can call sellers and buyers idiots
Apr 08 12:53:35 <lippoper>	at this rate, in another month, it'll be $500
Apr 08 12:53:40 <ThickAsThieves>	they are both too aggressive
Apr 08 12:53:54 <benkay>	totes disagree
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Apr 08 12:53:58 <benkay>	thickasthieves
Apr 08 12:54:11 <ThickAsThieves>	well obv buyers will pay any price
Apr 08 12:54:18 <benkay>	"pay" "price"
Apr 08 12:54:19 <ThickAsThieves>	so why sell into bids?
Apr 08 12:54:33 <benkay>	us "buyers" need a decent place to store value
Apr 08 12:54:42 <lippoper>	yeah
Apr 08 12:54:47 <ThickAsThieves>	ok
Apr 08 12:54:52 <ThickAsThieves>	you need it NOW
Apr 08 12:54:53 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 08 12:54:55 <benkay>	it literally does not matter at which price we put accrued value into the lockbox
Apr 08 12:54:59 <lippoper>	you need to classify "buyers"
Apr 08 12:55:04 <lippoper>	there are 2 types of buyers at least
Apr 08 12:55:10 <ThickAsThieves>	anyone not "playing" the market
Apr 08 12:55:16 <lippoper>	1 that is a consumer, actually exchanging USD to BTC to use it.
Apr 08 12:55:19 <benkay>	everyone who wants to preserve capital
Apr 08 12:55:26 <lippoper>	and 2 an investor type, who hoards it to sell later.
Apr 08 12:55:35 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 12:55:36 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 143.77873 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.288130965093 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
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Apr 08 12:55:54 <ThickAsThieves>	people buying btc to use it are tiny slice of the pie
Apr 08 12:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/grave-concerns-re-mtgox/
Apr 08 12:56:11 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone's curious, i'm adding gox to the suspected scam list.
Apr 08 12:57:08 <MJR_>	LOL ^^
Apr 08 12:57:42 <benkay>	gross
Apr 08 12:57:46 <benkay>	why can nobody run a business?
Apr 08 12:58:02 <benkay>	how does one trip and fall into a ponzi scheme?
Apr 08 12:58:08 <MJR_>	hahaha
Apr 08 12:58:19 <benkay>	i just want to work with grownups
Apr 08 12:59:10 <MJR_>	bitcoin can get a little too "lord of the flies" huh?
Apr 08 12:59:28 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 08 12:59:36 <mircea_popescu>	we still got a ways to go to growunupland
Apr 08 12:59:37 <ThickAsThieves>	mp i truly hope you are wrong
Apr 08 12:59:48 <benkay>	mircea_popescu does spend a disturbingly large amount of time talking shit, yes MJR
Apr 08 12:59:51 <ThickAsThieves>	but their behavior is questionable indeed
Apr 08 12:59:53 <MJR_>	look around...they are chasing piggy over there...scared of some monster
Apr 08 13:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves maybe i am. i don't see it tho.
Apr 08 13:00:18 <MJR_>	fighting over a conch (is that the foundation, gavin, luke jr etc?)
Apr 08 13:00:33 <MJR_>	surprisingly apt for a flippant remark
Apr 08 13:00:43 <benkay>	symbols over real things
Apr 08 13:00:49 <benkay>	world has problem with this
Apr 08 13:00:56 <benkay>	actually
Apr 08 13:01:04 <benkay>	idiots have a problem with this. confusing real things for the symbols.
Apr 08 13:01:13 <benkay>	and there are giant scads of idiots in the world.
Apr 08 13:01:14 <MJR_>	benkay: there is a lot to talk shit about...mircea calls a spade a spade...better to fix it than to be polite to it
Apr 08 13:01:22 <benkay>	i just like poking at him, mjr
Apr 08 13:01:24 <ThickAsThieves>	if you are right, isnt this the equivalent of a draining hot wallet
Apr 08 13:01:28 <benkay>	it's how i pretend i matter
Apr 08 13:01:35 <ThickAsThieves>	where it will just get worse and worse very quickly
Apr 08 13:01:46 <MJR_>	benkay: you matter, everyone here who is so entertaining and educational matters
Apr 08 13:02:07 <benkay>	you flatter me, and that triggers alarm bells.
Apr 08 13:02:09 <MJR_>	guys...are you watching the price? we are climbing back up right now
Apr 08 13:02:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess they dont even need to be using fake btc to manipulate price at this point
Apr 08 13:02:23 <ThickAsThieves>	230s lag mjr_
Apr 08 13:02:26 <MJR_>	oh i know
Apr 08 13:02:30 <ThickAsThieves>	we arent going anywhere
Apr 08 13:02:31 <MJR_>	this is vega as fuck
Apr 08 13:02:37 <benkay>	"fake btc"
Apr 08 13:02:40 <MJR_>	and i love it
Apr 08 13:02:40 <benkay>	make me cry
Apr 08 13:02:57 <MJR_>	this is like vega from street fighter II
Apr 08 13:03:36 <MJR_>	note to self: super hero cartoon tv show based on greek options symbols
Apr 08 13:03:43 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yes.
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Apr 08 13:03:57 <ThickAsThieves>	my brother "Oh, and I sold a Skylander for $60. Bought it for $20, so screw your damn coins!"
Apr 08 13:05:08 <ThickAsThieves>	is anyone really any more trustworthy than Gox though?
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Apr 08 13:05:25 <ThickAsThieves>	not saying they are trustworthy, so much as, is anyone?
Apr 08 13:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	plenty of people.
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Apr 08 13:06:08 <ThickAsThieves>	if majority market traffic moves to bitinstant, then they have same incentive to deceive
Apr 08 13:06:11 <MJR_>	mpex
Apr 08 13:06:12 <MJR_>	jurov
Apr 08 13:06:14 <MJR_>	smickles
Apr 08 13:06:18 <MJR_>	prob nanotube?
Apr 08 13:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yeah, that's a problem.
Apr 08 13:06:26 <MJR_>	namworld
Apr 08 13:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	i would trust nanotube yes.
Apr 08 13:06:29 <ThickAsThieves>	none of them run currency exchanges
Apr 08 13:06:39 <MJR_>	evoorhees
Apr 08 13:06:43 <benkay>	it's the worst business
Apr 08 13:06:43 <MJR_>	the list goes on
Apr 08 13:06:48 <benkay>	it will attract the dumbest players
Apr 08 13:06:54 <benkay>	someone should fix that.
Apr 08 13:06:54 <jurov>	Ukto. He runs weexchange
Apr 08 13:07:06 <mircea_popescu>	benkay eyah this is a problem.
Apr 08 13:07:39 <lippoper>	can't i just sell bitcoins to wells fargo?
Apr 08 13:07:52 <lippoper>	KRS1 told me that
Apr 08 13:07:56 <lippoper>	;;seen krs1
Apr 08 13:07:57 <gribble>	krs1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 2 hours, 5 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <KRS1> then unF unF unF all night long buttsecks
Apr 08 13:08:00 <lippoper>	lol
Apr 08 13:08:18 <ThickAsThieves>	so MP, instead of losing XX,XXX btc on options due to being Gox'd, tighten the algo, and use the money to show em how its done
Apr 08 13:08:36 <ThickAsThieves>	with a real currency exchange
Apr 08 13:09:04 <benkay>	yeah mircea_popescu distract yourself from the exchange
Apr 08 13:09:19 <benkay>	the actual important part of the ecosystem
Apr 08 13:09:21 <mircea_popescu>	i;m not making a fiat exchange
Apr 08 13:09:28 <benkay>	come on
Apr 08 13:09:28 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont blame you
Apr 08 13:09:32 *	jurov rolls eyes
Apr 08 13:09:39 <lippoper>	;ticker
Apr 08 13:09:42 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 13:09:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.28900, Best ask: 186.10000, Bid-ask spread: 5.81100, Last trade: 186.10000, 24 hour volume: 100099.75681545, 24 hour low: 155.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 176.22978
Apr 08 13:10:49 <benkay>	banks should take over exchange biz in the US.
Apr 08 13:11:15 <benkay>	assertion ^^
Apr 08 13:11:18 <benkay>	thoughts?
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Apr 08 13:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	ideally.
Apr 08 13:11:45 <lippoper>	we're trying to be decentralized
Apr 08 13:11:57 <lippoper>	but yeah, it would be nice if we could exchange money there for fiat
Apr 08 13:12:11 <lippoper>	err ^^ btc for fiat/money
Apr 08 13:12:18 <jurov>	banks need to figure out how to do it profitably
Apr 08 13:12:23 <ThickAsThieves>	banks cant even make a decent online banking website]
Apr 08 13:12:24 <lippoper>	Fees
Apr 08 13:12:31 <ThickAsThieves>	nevermind sort out btc
Apr 08 13:12:40 <benkay>	dude
Apr 08 13:12:43 <benkay>	it's shifting bits around
Apr 08 13:12:48 <benkay>	there is zero cost to it
Apr 08 13:12:53 <jurov>	if they ask huge fees, street competition would spring immediately
Apr 08 13:12:56 <benkay>	okay not zero
Apr 08 13:12:58 <benkay>	but trivial
Apr 08 13:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, for anyone curious about the old days : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444.msg3866#msg3866
Apr 08 13:13:06 <ThickAsThieves>	not trivial to banks
Apr 08 13:13:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.25103 BTC [-]
Apr 08 13:13:07 <Scrat>	shifting non reversible bits
Apr 08 13:13:07 <benkay>	shit should be a fucking account feature
Apr 08 13:13:08 <mircea_popescu>	"https://mtgox.com/users/login?username=SmokeTooMuch&password=XXXXXXX
Apr 08 13:13:08 <mircea_popescu>	what the fuck!?! use hashes for transmitting and saving passwords!!!!"
Apr 08 13:13:09 <jurov>	it's not like credit cards where you can;t legally compete with them
Apr 08 13:13:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.25102 = 1.2551 BTC [-]
Apr 08 13:13:14 <ThickAsThieves>	they hate  spending money on IT
Apr 08 13:13:39 <benkay>	i hate them
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Apr 08 13:13:45 <benkay>	i hate everyone who doesn't spend money on it
Apr 08 13:14:13 <benkay>	nobody seems to understand that 2 nerds and 50k of server equipment will trash your competitors, if properly managed
Apr 08 13:14:33 <benkay>	and venture capitalists are obsessed with new businesses
Apr 08 13:14:36 <benkay>	not breaking old businesses
Apr 08 13:14:44 <benkay>	and i get that, but at the same time i break things all day every day
Apr 08 13:14:47 <ThickAsThieves>	nerd cant "properly manage" much, as you can see
Apr 08 13:14:59 <benkay>	2 nerds and a manager
Apr 08 13:15:07 <ThickAsThieves>	manager must be a nerd too
Apr 08 13:15:12 <benkay>	dude
Apr 08 13:15:15 <benkay>	get off me
Apr 08 13:15:17 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 08 13:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	<benkay> nobody seems to understand that 2 nerds and 50k of server equipment will trash your competitors, if properly managed << i understand lol.
Apr 08 13:15:21 <benkay>	i work in this space
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Apr 08 13:15:56 <benkay>	i have seen the damage that non technical managers can wreak on a team
Apr 08 13:16:08 <ThickAsThieves>	all i'm saying is banks never really caught up with tech
Apr 08 13:16:12 <benkay>	i actually like team dynamics, which makes me a weird nerd.
Apr 08 13:16:17 <ThickAsThieves>	so its hard
Apr 08 13:16:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 999999999
Apr 08 13:16:45 <gribble>	There are currently 46992.924 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3025256372.08 USD in total. | Data vintage: 78.1869 seconds
Apr 08 13:16:47 <benkay>	mircea_popescu you built a 50m fiat-valued company in less than3 years
Apr 08 13:17:00 <benkay>	i'm not exactly including you in the idiot bucket
Apr 08 13:17:08 <benkay>	also you're like a gangster or something terrifying
Apr 08 13:17:19 <jurov>	it's traditional thing. around here it is better, everything done electronically, in some banks you can send money using internet instantly anytime to other account in same bank
Apr 08 13:17:31 <benkay>	i know!
Apr 08 13:17:31 <benkay>	i do this!
Apr 08 13:17:38 <jurov>	but still, interbank transfer, 1 day
Apr 08 13:17:41 <jurov>	sepa 2 days
Apr 08 13:17:44 <ThickAsThieves>	get ready for another price dip
Apr 08 13:17:45 <benkay>	hahaha
Apr 08 13:17:46 <benkay>	in us
Apr 08 13:17:48 <benkay>	5 days
Apr 08 13:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	that's ridiculous
Apr 08 13:17:57 <benkay>	fuck this country.
Apr 08 13:18:02 <benkay>	i love it
Apr 08 13:18:03 <benkay>	but fuck it
Apr 08 13:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	sepa is next day wtf.
Apr 08 13:18:32 <jurov>	maybe next day if they send it in the morning
Apr 08 13:18:43 <benkay>	automate all of these things
Apr 08 13:18:54 <benkay>	release yourself of the burden of wage slaves
Apr 08 13:19:01 <benkay>	and the hr overhead to rule them
Apr 08 13:19:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 1000
Apr 08 13:19:02 <gribble>	A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 179856.6021 USD and would take the last price down to 178.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 179.8566 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 16.5092 seconds
Apr 08 13:19:12 <lippoper>	so do you guys think the price will crash before the 10th, that's when they discontinue the Mt.Gox redeemable codes.
Apr 08 13:19:13 <lippoper>	?
Apr 08 13:19:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 2000
Apr 08 13:19:14 <gribble>	A market order to sell 2000 bitcoins right now would net 356703.9257 USD and would take the last price down to 175.5200 USD, resulting in an average price of 178.3520 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 28.5843 seconds
Apr 08 13:19:15 <jurov>	benkay consider that even mpex/coinbr deposits aren't automated
Apr 08 13:19:38 <benkay>	yeah that was a foolish statement
Apr 08 13:19:45 <jurov>	and after that recent fork i'm not rushing to do sth
Apr 08 13:20:10 <benkay>	here's a wack idea
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Apr 08 13:20:13 <benkay>	wacky*
Apr 08 13:20:17 <benkay>	new mining pool
Apr 08 13:20:24 <benkay>	funds go to rewriting hairball
Apr 08 13:20:36 <mircea_popescu>	lippoper i doubt really.
Apr 08 13:20:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;goxlag
Apr 08 13:21:05 <ThickAsThieves>	another way gox could leverage lag,
Apr 08 13:21:14 <lippoper>	just considering that there's still a huge queue to withdraw money
Apr 08 13:21:14 <ThickAsThieves>	is tell sell on outside exhanges
Apr 08 13:21:19 <ThickAsThieves>	is to sell on
Apr 08 13:21:28 <lippoper>	isn't there a chance a lot of people will transfer their BTC's out and find another way to exchange?
Apr 08 13:21:42 <lippoper>	once the codes are gone
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Apr 08 13:22:00 <ThickAsThieves>	codes probably dont have major impact
Apr 08 13:22:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno tho
Apr 08 13:22:09 <jurov>	that if gox will allow much btc to be withdrawn.
Apr 08 13:22:21 <lippoper>	it's the only way to withdraw money if you're not verified
Apr 08 13:22:37 <jurov>	you didn't read the article?
Apr 08 13:22:38 <lippoper>	money as in USD
Apr 08 13:22:48 <jurov>	they now fuss with btc withdrawal, too
Apr 08 13:23:01 <lippoper>	argh
Apr 08 13:23:03 <benkay>	i tell my friends to not use gox
Apr 08 13:23:07 <benkay>	eat the higher fees elsewhere
Apr 08 13:23:19 <benkay>	experience some modicum of safety
Apr 08 13:23:26 <benkay>	heh
Apr 08 13:23:35 <benkay>	generally, avoid single points of failure in your personal financial infrastructure
Apr 08 13:23:56 <ThickAsThieves>	cant really call any bitcoin establishment 'safe'
Apr 08 13:24:03 <benkay>	ofc not
Apr 08 13:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3102 = 3.102 BTC [+]
Apr 08 13:24:33 <benkay>	one can however reduce risk
Apr 08 13:24:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess betting on sdice is close, since its fast
Apr 08 13:25:12 <lippoper>	one of these days when btc is worth $400/each i'll bet it all on satoshi dice
Apr 08 13:25:29 <lippoper>	either come out richer or empty handed.
Apr 08 13:25:46 <benkay>	just go to a real casino
Apr 08 13:25:50 <benkay>	at least they have prostitutes
Apr 08 13:25:50 <lippoper>	no
Apr 08 13:25:52 <lippoper>	those are rigged
Apr 08 13:25:54 <lippoper>	lol
Apr 08 13:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
Apr 08 13:26:07 <benkay>	so is dice
Apr 08 13:26:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 9999999999
Apr 08 13:26:14 <gribble>	There are currently 48196.751 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999999.0 USD, worth 14035802498.9 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.5039 seconds
Apr 08 13:26:23 <lippoper>	I don't think it is, is it?
Apr 08 13:26:34 <benkay>	there's no difference between someone who says i will take your money and someone who says i will take your money
Apr 08 13:26:45 <lippoper>	a 98% chance of winning 1.004x return seems like a good bet
Apr 08 13:26:48 <benkay>	no matter the statistical whatever
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Apr 08 13:26:57 <benkay>	don't bet
Apr 08 13:26:59 <benkay>	make educated plays
Apr 08 13:27:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc .98 * 1.004
Apr 08 13:27:19 <benkay>	the odds are better
Apr 08 13:27:19 <lippoper>	ok, please give me an example right now of an educated play
Apr 08 13:27:19 <gribble>	0.98392
Apr 08 13:27:21 <mircea_popescu>	seems not.
Apr 08 13:27:24 <benkay>	(the bettors are odder)
Apr 08 13:27:35 <benkay>	let's see
Apr 08 13:27:51 <benkay>	a company that aggregates signed receipts for bitcoin purchases and publishes trust ratings for merchants
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Apr 08 13:28:04 <benkay>	a contract killing outfit
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Apr 08 13:28:34 <lippoper>	you gave a very risky business idea and an illegal one.
Apr 08 13:28:39 <lippoper>	lol
Apr 08 13:28:54 <benkay>	you obviously don't have the chops to make those plays thenm
Apr 08 13:28:57 <lippoper>	Might as well be a day trader ;-)
Apr 08 13:29:01 <ThickAsThieves>	lag has lagged out
Apr 08 13:29:04 <benkay>	may as well put it all on red
Apr 08 13:29:04 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 13:29:07 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 46.885324 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0939576643418 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
Apr 08 13:29:11 <lippoper>	agreed
Apr 08 13:29:16 <lippoper>	;;bet red
Apr 08 13:29:17 <gribble>	Error: "bet" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 13:29:25 <lippoper>	;;roll
Apr 08 13:29:25 <gribble>	Error: "roll" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 13:29:29 <benkay>	why do you gamble?
Apr 08 13:29:57 <benkay>	here's another easy, legal educated play
Apr 08 13:29:57 <ThickAsThieves>	more fun than digging ditches
Apr 08 13:29:59 <benkay>	HOLD BITCOINS
Apr 08 13:30:05 <lippoper>	;;genprob 2200
Apr 08 13:30:05 <gribble>	(genprob <hashrate> <interval> [<difficulty>]) -- Calculate probability to generate a block using <hashrate> Mhps, in <interval> seconds, at current difficulty. If optional <difficulty> argument is provided, probability is for supplied difficulty. To provide the <interval> argument, a nested 'elapsed' command may be helpful.
Apr 08 13:30:06 <benkay>	why not just buy sex?
Apr 08 13:30:12 <benkay>	purchase fun?
Apr 08 13:30:28 <ThickAsThieves>	is that not what gambling is?
Apr 08 13:30:36 <lippoper>	;;genprob 2200 1
Apr 08 13:30:37 <gribble>	The probability to generate a block at 2200.0 Mhps within 1 second, given difficulty of 7672999.92016, is 6.67571229407e-08
Apr 08 13:30:44 <benkay>	huh.
Apr 08 13:30:54 <benkay>	okay philosophical question, why is gambling fun?
Apr 08 13:30:59 <lippoper>	;;genprob 22000000 6000
Apr 08 13:31:01 <gribble>	The probability to generate a block at 22000000.0 Mhps within 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds, given difficulty of 7672999.92016, is 0.981783500137
Apr 08 13:31:09 <benkay>	gamblers only please
Apr 08 13:31:17 <benkay>	;)
Apr 08 13:31:20 <lippoper>	the thrill of the ride ;-)
Apr 08 13:31:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i think it appeals for different reasons for some people
Apr 08 13:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 08 13:31:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.87811, Best ask: 184.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.62189, Last trade: 183.50000, 24 hour volume: 100167.85329295, 24 hour low: 155.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 176.66415
Apr 08 13:32:14 <lippoper>	the excitement/anxiety/thrill of either making it big or just for the fucking fun of feeling alive
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Apr 08 13:33:14 <lippoper>	the guy playing poker with millions of dollars is not really having sex with that fine blonde bitch standing over his shoulder.... he's having more fun with his millions.  Bitches second, Money first.
Apr 08 13:33:54 <lippoper>	;;tslb
Apr 08 13:33:58 <gribble>	Time since last block: 13 minutes and 51 seconds
Apr 08 13:34:14 <lippoper>	;interval
Apr 08 13:34:18 <lippoper>	;;interval
Apr 08 13:34:19 <gribble>	496.55172413793105
Apr 08 13:34:34 <lippoper>	;;calc 496.55172413793105 / 60
Apr 08 13:34:35 <gribble>	8.27586206897
Apr 08 13:34:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00065489 = 4.1913 BTC [+]
Apr 08 13:34:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10590 @ 0.00065873 = 6.976 BTC [+]
Apr 08 13:34:51 <lippoper>	;;calc (496.55172413793105 / 60) / 60
Apr 08 13:34:51 <gribble>	0.137931034483
Apr 08 13:35:29 <lippoper>	is that 8 hours or 8 minutes
Apr 08 13:35:29 <lippoper>	lol
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Apr 08 13:35:56 <lippoper>	;;interval 10
Apr 08 13:35:57 <gribble>	(interval takes no arguments) -- Shows average interval, in seconds, between last 1000 blocks.
Apr 08 13:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.3095 = 1.5475 BTC [-]
Apr 08 13:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3097 = 0.6194 BTC [+]
Apr 08 13:36:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.3099 = 2.4792 BTC [+]
Apr 08 13:36:08 <punkman>	benkay, the answer is risk, risk is fun
Apr 08 13:36:11 <lippoper>	interval - show the average time between blocks, over the past  1000 blocks. If given optional integer argument, use that many blocks  for the estimate.
Apr 08 13:36:22 <lippoper>	 gribble: (interval takes no arguments) -- Shows average interval, in seconds, between last 1000 blocks.
Apr 08 13:36:37 <lippoper>	lies
Apr 08 13:36:40 <lippoper>	;-)
Apr 08 13:36:53 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 13:36:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 181.00000, Best ask: 182.40000, Bid-ask spread: 1.40000, Last trade: 182.40000, 24 hour volume: 100167.85329295, 24 hour low: 155.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 176.66415
Apr 08 13:37:11 <lippoper>	;;diffchange
Apr 08 13:37:13 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 16.76214 % based on data since last change | 13.877 % based on data for last three days
Apr 08 13:37:18 <jborkl_>	please take you conversations with gribble private, you are spamming the channel
Apr 08 13:37:25 <lippoper>	oh i can do that?
Apr 08 13:37:31 <lippoper>	thanks
Apr 08 13:37:32 <jborkl_>	yes
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Apr 08 13:37:56 <lippoper>	woo, thanks!
Apr 08 13:38:59 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: what is this? https://blockchain.info/tx/cbe6bcc1578c03054b9fd7bcd5d374c683270b0e27ec1ce8389d4060b19c02a2
Apr 08 13:39:10 <deadweasel>	any IPOs on the horizon?
Apr 08 13:39:12 <jurov>	you have same wallet for mpex and bitbet?
Apr 08 13:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	that is a buncha bets.
Apr 08 13:40:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i see another possible behavior correlating with lag
Apr 08 13:40:22 <ThickAsThieves>	large ask wall moving downawrd
Apr 08 13:40:29 <ThickAsThieves>	was at 190
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Apr 08 13:40:33 <ThickAsThieves>	now at 188
Apr 08 13:40:50 <ThickAsThieves>	could just be natural
Apr 08 13:41:58 <lippoper>	bots
Apr 08 13:42:14 <lippoper>	over the weekend there's some douche selling trading bots on reddit
Apr 08 13:42:38 <lippoper>	now there's a bunch of noobs making hundreds of transactions per minute
Apr 08 13:44:02 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 08 13:44:04 <mircea_popescu>	capitalism!
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Apr 08 13:44:46 <lippoper>	heh free market
Apr 08 13:45:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 13:45:24 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 08 13:45:29 <ThickAsThieves>	now lets see if price falls
Apr 08 13:45:36 <lippoper>	nah, now it'll go up
Apr 08 13:45:44 <lippoper>	;;asks 0
Apr 08 13:45:44 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 0.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 39.3270 seconds
Apr 08 13:45:49 <lippoper>	;;asks 999999999999
Apr 08 13:45:50 <gribble>	There are currently 47372.398 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999999.0 USD, worth 1.42184506191e+12 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.4670 seconds
Apr 08 13:46:00 <lippoper>	wow
Apr 08 13:46:25 <benkay>	goxlag is 0 but data vintage is 45 seconds?
Apr 08 13:46:32 <ThickAsThieves>	ghost lag
Apr 08 13:46:44 <ThickAsThieves>	lag lag
Apr 08 13:46:46 <benkay>	ghost lag the whip!
Apr 08 13:46:59 <lippoper>	 Data vintage: 92.6545 seconds
Apr 08 13:47:09 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 13:47:12 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.132764 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0002660575695 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 08 13:47:16 <lippoper>	;;asks 99999999
Apr 08 13:47:17 <gribble>	There are currently 47348.68 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 422305405.304 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.2297 seconds
Apr 08 13:47:18 <deadweasel>	so if no coinbase, no gox, how to get btc back to fiat?
Apr 08 13:47:19 <benkay>	son i am confus.
Apr 08 13:47:28 <benkay>	buy eve credits
Apr 08 13:47:28 <lippoper>	bitinstant
Apr 08 13:47:32 <benkay>	sell for dollars
Apr 08 13:47:36 <lippoper>	craigslist
Apr 08 13:47:44 <ThickAsThieves>	179
Apr 08 13:47:45 <lippoper>	ebay lolz
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Apr 08 13:49:35 <benkay>	actually
Apr 08 13:49:39 <benkay>	you can buy bitcoins on ebay
Apr 08 13:49:48 <benkay>	HOHOHO
Apr 08 13:49:53 <benkay>	someone is selling 1 litecoin for ten bucks
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Apr 08 13:50:06 <ThickAsThieves>	that was the first place i tried last year
Apr 08 13:50:10 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoins never came
Apr 08 13:50:16 <ThickAsThieves>	so i got my money back
Apr 08 13:50:26 <benkay>	ebay may be the best place for bitcoins in the future
Apr 08 13:50:36 <benkay>	they also own paypal
Apr 08 13:50:51 <benkay>	i've been harping on the guy who runs their android operation to bring me on to build a consumer wallet thing
Apr 08 13:51:08 <benkay>	has not yet bitten
Apr 08 13:51:13 <benkay>	although i made him filthy rich on bitcoins
Apr 08 13:51:35 <lippoper>	buy a bitcoin from someone with paypal for $250.00
Apr 08 13:51:43 <lippoper>	then reverse the charge once it's in your wallet
Apr 08 13:51:52 <benkay>	a good buy at any price under 5k lippoper
Apr 08 13:52:11 <benkay>	ebay won't do that
Apr 08 13:52:15 <lippoper>	"Yes paypal customer service, I never received the bitcoin"
Apr 08 13:52:17 <benkay>	they actually do due dilligence
Apr 08 13:52:24 <lippoper>	not from what I read
Apr 08 13:52:25 <benkay>	nah
Apr 08 13:52:36 <lippoper>	even btc-e.com stopped accepting PayPal due to this reason.
Apr 08 13:52:38 <benkay>	you'll have to have an agreed upon address
Apr 08 13:52:42 <benkay>	duh
Apr 08 13:52:47 <lippoper>	duh
Apr 08 13:52:51 <benkay>	paypal's not doing *your* due dilligence
Apr 08 13:52:58 <benkay>	they do it when they have skin in the game
Apr 08 13:53:09 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 08 13:53:10 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 175.99
Apr 08 13:53:19 <lippoper>	they reverse charges like credit card company, sometimes even more easily.
Apr 08 13:53:37 <benkay>	the default opionion in credit card land is that customers are right
Apr 08 13:53:40 <benkay>	and vendors are evil
Apr 08 13:53:45 <benkay>	the expectation creates the reality
Apr 08 13:55:26 <benkay>	it's not entirely a bad thing, given the shit state of their technology
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Apr 08 13:58:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7889 BTC [-]
Apr 08 13:58:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.76211 = 1.5242 BTC [-]
Apr 08 13:58:25 <benkay>	anyways. i would bet on paypal being a major player in the exchange business.
Apr 08 13:58:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7621 = 1.5242 BTC [-]
Apr 08 13:58:34 <benkay>	they're hungry for new business.
Apr 08 13:58:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7621 = 3.0484 BTC [-]
Apr 08 13:58:46 <benkay>	and they could be percieved as a professional outfit that understands security.
Apr 08 13:59:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 13:59:46 <benkay>	dammit i shut b-a down again.
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Apr 08 14:04:14 <lippoper>	we're going back up ;;ticker
Apr 08 14:04:23 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 14:04:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 182.23401, Best ask: 182.67570, Bid-ask spread: 0.44169, Last trade: 182.67570, 24 hour volume: 100199.76586949, 24 hour low: 157.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 177.36797
Apr 08 14:04:32 <ThickAsThieves>	still a fake price
Apr 08 14:04:36 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 14:04:37 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 34.868194 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0698754703722 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
Apr 08 14:05:15 <benkay>	"fake"?
Apr 08 14:05:26 <ThickAsThieves>	sorry
Apr 08 14:05:31 <ThickAsThieves>	fleeting
Apr 08 14:05:38 <benkay>	aren't all?
Apr 08 14:05:41 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 08 14:05:55 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess my point was not clear whatsoever
Apr 08 14:05:57 <benkay>	do you have a steady-state value you expect?
Apr 08 14:06:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think gox is letting us see the natural price yet
Apr 08 14:06:18 <ThickAsThieves>	due to lag
Apr 08 14:06:19 <benkay>	oh i think i get it
Apr 08 14:06:21 <benkay>	thanks
Apr 08 14:06:35 <benkay>	obviously i want to fight today
Apr 08 14:06:40 <benkay>	*eyeroll*
Apr 08 14:06:47 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 08 14:06:51 <ThickAsThieves>	it freezing on a price for 60s is sorta meaningless
Apr 08 14:07:09 <ThickAsThieves>	even when it's not lagged, it's lagged today
Apr 08 14:09:05 <benkay>	further hints of impending doom for gox
Apr 08 14:09:15 <benkay>	can has short them?
Apr 08 14:09:44 <Bugpowder>	short the company who's revenue is skyrocketing exponentially.  have fun with that.
Apr 08 14:09:55 <benkay>	hm.
Apr 08 14:10:56 <benkay>	how do make play agains company that's horribly run and yet profitable?
Apr 08 14:11:12 <Bugpowder>	don't
Apr 08 14:11:20 <jcpham>	imsaguy everytime i get opped i do something wrong like +m the channel or try to fix the topic when it is topic locked
Apr 08 14:11:25 <Bugpowder>	look for other opportunities.
Apr 08 14:11:28 <jcpham>	plus it's ADHD chat. you can't fix it
Apr 08 14:11:34 <imsaguy>	aye
Apr 08 14:11:44 <imsaguy>	it really needs to start over
Apr 08 14:11:49 <imsaguy>	its lost focus
Apr 08 14:11:51 <jcpham>	reboot!
Apr 08 14:12:02 <imsaguy>	there's something to be said about -foyer
Apr 08 14:12:08 <jcpham>	needs ninja ops booting stupid people
Apr 08 14:12:08 <imsaguy>	it kept much of the OT in there
Apr 08 14:12:12 <imsaguy>	yep
Apr 08 14:12:20 <imsaguy>	but nanotube says no
Apr 08 14:12:25 <jcpham>	ikr
Apr 08 14:12:28 <imsaguy>	so it is what it is
Apr 08 14:12:33 <jcpham>	woohoo!
Apr 08 14:12:39 <imsaguy>	is it?
Apr 08 14:12:53 <jcpham>	not really i don't like it there
Apr 08 14:13:03 <jcpham>	maybe 20-50 nicks i can trust
Apr 08 14:13:40 <imsaguy>	:-/
Apr 08 14:13:46 <imsaguy>	sucky feeling
Apr 08 14:13:59 <imsaguy>	maybe you need to adjust your wot?
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Apr 08 14:15:12 <jcpham>	which one
Apr 08 14:15:22 <jcpham>	i've had to create like 30 accounts to defend myself
Apr 08 14:15:25 <Bugpowder>	back to 12MM in bids
Apr 08 14:16:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
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Apr 08 14:16:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 9999999999
Apr 08 14:16:32 <benkay>	what are you catching flak for jcpham?
Apr 08 14:16:45 <jcpham>	nothing actually
Apr 08 14:16:52 <jcpham>	imsaguy and i were having a chat
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Apr 08 14:24:05 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 14:24:10 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 99.982987 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.200364786483 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
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Apr 08 14:27:06 <guruvan>	venutians accepting bitcion now?
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Apr 08 14:27:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 19 @ 0.1 = 1.9 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 14:28:28 <benkay>	forbes letter from the editor says we need to take the dollar seriously
Apr 08 14:28:40 <benkay>	i call bitcoin top when forbes letter from the editor says dollar is dead
Apr 08 14:28:50 <benkay>	:D
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Apr 08 14:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.00085021 = 0.8502 BTC [+]
Apr 08 14:30:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00085021 = 0.4251 BTC [+]
Apr 08 14:30:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 992 @ 0.00079521 = 0.7888 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 14:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.31 = 2.48 BTC [-]
Apr 08 14:35:35 <benkay>	god i love russia
Apr 08 14:35:41 <benkay>	if you're rich enough
Apr 08 14:35:44 <benkay>	you can has kremlin
Apr 08 14:35:50 <benkay>	but also
Apr 08 14:35:53 <benkay>	might get popped
Apr 08 14:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-]
Apr 08 14:36:25 <Scrat>	popped like a grape
Apr 08 14:37:47 <benkay>	it would be nice to be king of cascadia
Apr 08 14:37:58 <benkay>	very little ambition in these parts
Apr 08 14:38:17 <benkay>	a few executions to set the tone
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Apr 08 14:42:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00065422 = 3.3365 BTC [-]
Apr 08 14:42:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 475 @ 0.00065873 = 0.3129 BTC [+]
Apr 08 14:42:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.0006607 = 0.8589 BTC [+]
Apr 08 14:42:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5525 @ 0.00066071 = 3.6504 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 14:43:56 <MJR_>	back to 188 already
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Apr 08 14:53:56 <btcccc>	while you waiting for BTC to jump hugely again you can play a new game that you can win up to 17X your bet by trying to walk through a minefield.  also freeplay option so you dont have to bet! http://www.satoshi-karoshi.com/?r=10670
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Apr 08 14:55:34 <benkay>	GAMBLE TO NEXT LEVEL
Apr 08 14:56:25 <benkay>	don't go...
Apr 08 14:56:30 <benkay>	we were just starting to have fun...
Apr 08 14:56:44 <iz>	play a game where you walk through a minefield?  how is that fun?
Apr 08 14:57:08 <benkay>	it's gambling
Apr 08 14:57:16 <benkay>	don't try and reason
Apr 08 14:57:20 <benkay>	just take the fools monies.
Apr 08 14:57:28 <benkay>	fools'
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Apr 08 14:58:30 <iz>	hard to take their money if they don't want to play
Apr 08 14:58:48 <benkay>	*shrug*
Apr 08 14:58:58 <benkay>	a small fraction of the world is a lot of people
Apr 08 14:59:21 <deadweasel>	.2% of people reply to nigerian scammers
Apr 08 14:59:26 <iz>	yes, and a large fraction of the world is even more people
Apr 08 14:59:26 <deadweasel>	it's enough
Apr 08 14:59:28 <benkay>	oh man i do
Apr 08 14:59:44 <benkay>	they never write back, though.
Apr 08 15:00:06 <iz>	send them bitcoins and then sell them technical support in USD
Apr 08 15:00:24 <benkay>	wat
Apr 08 15:00:30 <benkay>	acquire cryptocurrencies
Apr 08 15:00:34 <benkay>	disregard fiat
Apr 08 15:02:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.021 = 0.042 BTC [-]
Apr 08 15:03:03 <ThickAsThieves>	do you like bitcoin? do you like super mario kart? then you'll LOVE SatoshiYoshi.com!
Apr 08 15:03:22 <MJR_>	I like both those things!!!
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Apr 08 15:03:40 <benkay>	let me give you my money!
Apr 08 15:03:49 <ThickAsThieves>	good idea!
Apr 08 15:03:52 <MJR_>	there was nothing there?
Apr 08 15:03:56 <MJR_>	T_T
Apr 08 15:04:27 <ThickAsThieves>	there should be an .exe file you need to run
Apr 08 15:04:52 <benkay>	yuss
Apr 08 15:05:04 <benkay>	dudes i saw a thing about using javascript to reprogram routers yesterday
Apr 08 15:05:14 <benkay>	from user browsers
Apr 08 15:05:19 <MJR_>	benkay: sounds cool
Apr 08 15:05:26 <MJR_>	you can do the same with UPnP
Apr 08 15:05:39 <benkay>	i love breaking things.
Apr 08 15:05:44 <MJR_>	who doesn't
Apr 08 15:06:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i like making things
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Apr 08 15:06:51 <MJR_>	both can be fun
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Apr 08 15:08:01 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Apr 08 15:08:07 <MJR_>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 08 15:08:10 <gribble>	177.01
Apr 08 15:08:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 186.06253, Best ask: 186.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.93746, Last trade: 186.99999, 24 hour volume: 102774.98338597, 24 hour low: 157.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 178.38721
Apr 08 15:08:45 <deadweasel>	fucking linksys routers.  totally unprotected.
Apr 08 15:09:06 <deadweasel>	add a '/' to any admin url to see source code, lol!
Apr 08 15:09:23 <deadweasel>	print password file with simple request
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Apr 08 15:13:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.794 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 15:22:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.209 = 4.836 BTC [+]
Apr 08 15:22:34 <lippoper>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 15:22:36 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3.534177 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00708245113738 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
Apr 08 15:22:36 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 15:22:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 185.30001, Best ask: 185.95999, Bid-ask spread: 0.65998, Last trade: 185.30001, 24 hour volume: 102926.03575566, 24 hour low: 157.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 178.47044
Apr 08 15:23:04 <lippoper>	$avg
Apr 08 15:23:05 <mpexbot>	lippoper: 177.37
Apr 08 15:23:11 <lippoper>	is that the real price?
Apr 08 15:23:25 <lippoper>	around 177-179 ?
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Apr 08 15:25:35 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 195
Apr 08 15:25:37 <gribble>	There are currently 7494.7663 bitcoins offered at or under 195.0 USD, worth 1443781.28381 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Apr 08 15:25:40 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 170
Apr 08 15:25:41 <gribble>	There are currently 9839.9499 bitcoins demanded at or over 170.0 USD, worth 1748284.48795 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.0379 seconds
Apr 08 15:26:17 <dub>	;ticker --high
Apr 08 15:27:35 <dub>	;;nethash
Apr 08 15:27:36 <gribble>	62837.3281404
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Apr 08 15:29:32 <topace|2>	!ticker h him
Apr 08 15:29:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.89000000 / 1.92735294 / 1.93000000 (17 shares, 32.76500000 BTC), 7D: 1.82000000 / 1.90417629 / 2.05990000 (97 shares, 184.70510000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.85736363 / 2.08000000 (693 shares, 1287.15299230 BTC)
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Apr 08 15:34:18 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 08 15:34:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 188.89002, Best ask: 189.80261, Bid-ask spread: 0.91259, Last trade: 189.80261, 24 hour volume: 104076.87236816, 24 hour low: 157.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 178.63555
Apr 08 15:34:20 <benkay>	thickasthieves making things is important and cool
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Apr 08 15:35:45 <bVector>	so how long would it take to make your money back on dividends on sdice stocks?
Apr 08 15:35:58 <ThickAsThieves>	a lifetime these days
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Apr 08 15:41:14 <mod6>	;;bc,blocks
Apr 08 15:41:14 <gribble>	230331
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Apr 08 15:46:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 08 15:46:17 <gribble>	62888.8850858
Apr 08 15:46:22 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 08 15:46:23 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 8839306.76485 based on data since last change | 8785341.70019 based on data for last three days
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Apr 08 15:46:41 <jurov>	dat discussion... http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1bxakb/the_mens_guide_to_showering/
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Apr 08 15:54:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.24001 BTC [+]
Apr 08 15:55:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13789 BTC [+]
Apr 08 15:55:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1379 = 0.2758 BTC [+]
Apr 08 15:58:18 <mod6>	;;tslb
Apr 08 15:58:23 <gribble>	Time since last block: 47 minutes and 53 seconds
Apr 08 16:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00065356 = 4.0848 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 16:02:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00066071 = 6.1116 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 16:08:20 <mod6>	;;tslb
Apr 08 16:08:24 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 2 seconds
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Apr 08 16:13:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.789 = 1.578 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 16:15:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 28 @ 0.795 = 22.26 BTC [+]
Apr 08 16:16:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 998 @ 0.01 = 9.98 BTC [+]
Apr 08 16:16:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+]
Apr 08 16:16:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]
Apr 08 16:16:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1481 @ 0.00066071 = 0.9785 BTC [+]
Apr 08 16:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6007 @ 0.00066211 = 3.9773 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 16:40:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.1024 = 0.8192 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 16:58:05 <jborkl_>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 16:58:06 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.361659 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000724760586664 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 08 16:58:19 <jborkl_>	;;ticker
Apr 08 16:58:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 188.25001, Best ask: 188.41000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15999, Last trade: 188.25001, 24 hour volume: 106530.94142469, 24 hour low: 160.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 179.70143
Apr 08 16:59:03 <thestringpuller>	quiet for how volatole of a day it was
Apr 08 16:59:23 <jurov>	everyone is tired from it :D
Apr 08 16:59:24 <jborkl_>	mtgox socket has been down for 85 minutes
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Apr 08 17:00:46 <thestringpuller>	jurov lemme use coinbr for free
Apr 08 17:00:47 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 08 17:01:24 <jurov>	O? And why?
Apr 08 17:02:27 <jurov>	(hopes for jk punchline)
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Apr 08 17:03:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.763 = 1.526 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 17:04:54 <thestringpuller>	!ticker btctc asicminer-ot
Apr 08 17:04:56 <assbot>	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
Apr 08 17:04:57 <thestringpuller>	!ticker btctc asicminer-pt
Apr 08 17:04:58 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.76 / 0.78376 / 0.795 (205 shares, 160.7 BTC),  7D: 0.683004 / 0.76178 / 0.795 (1253 shares, 954.5 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.77589 / 0.9489 (7745 shares, 6009.3 BTC)
Apr 08 17:05:20 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 08 17:05:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.89000000 / 1.92735294 / 1.93000000 (17 shares, 32.76500000 BTC), 7D: 1.82000000 / 1.90417629 / 2.05990000 (97 shares, 184.70510000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.85736363 / 2.08000000 (693 shares, 1287.15299230 BTC)
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Apr 08 17:08:20 <jurov>	;;rate thestringpuller -1 "joke's on you"
Apr 08 17:08:21 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
Apr 08 17:09:39 <jurov>	but no, you're a friend :)
Apr 08 17:09:44 <FabianB_>	22:59 < jurov> everyone is tired from it :D <-- yeah, but so all the buyers are new?
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Apr 08 17:10:50 <jurov>	how does it follow?
Apr 08 17:11:05 <jurov>	i meant, btcusd tired us
Apr 08 17:11:32 <jurov>	hence the silence
Apr 08 17:12:12 <jborkl_>	mtgox socket down fo 95 minutes now
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Apr 08 17:12:35 <FabianB_>	yeah, but trading goes on
Apr 08 17:12:49 <jurov>	where? bitcoinity says 235s
Apr 08 17:13:09 <jurov>	ohh you mean whole socket api down, not lag?
Apr 08 17:13:16 <jborkl_>	yes
Apr 08 17:13:59 <jurov>	they will follow mpex lead. no socket api (or third party only)
Apr 08 17:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2802 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.28 = 0.56 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:14:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.258 = 0.516 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:14:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.25 = 0.75 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:14:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:14:09 <jurov>	then withdrawals will get deprecated
Apr 08 17:14:10 <bgupta>	http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/inside-the-bitcoin-bubble-bitinstants-ceo.html
Apr 08 17:14:11 *	bgupta read the part about "had to write our own program"
Apr 08 17:15:15 <jborkl_>	equity is getting shit on, for now
Apr 08 17:15:58 <bgupta>	jborkl_: btc equity?
Apr 08 17:16:11 <jborkl_>	stocks
Apr 08 17:16:17 <FabianB_>	if all the buyers are new, we might crash soon when press slows down
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Apr 08 17:17:13 <jurov>	define crash... some fellows here call even correction to 170 a "crash"
Apr 08 17:17:16 <jborkl_>	buyers are interested in other things for now, but obtaining bitcoins is getting more and more expensive. therefore will be worth more later
Apr 08 17:17:40 <bgupta>	counter-trend correction more likely before press slowdown if past is any indicator.
Apr 08 17:17:41 <FabianB_>	like < 100
Apr 08 17:17:50 <jborkl_>	yeah, we go from 20 to 200 and people scream when it goes to 170
Apr 08 17:18:28 <bgupta>	crash to me would be price drop of >50%.
Apr 08 17:18:45 <FabianB_>	who knows
Apr 08 17:19:01 <tiberiusiv>	crash is defined as a move greater then 20% in a very short time spanm
Apr 08 17:19:08 <bgupta>	jborkl_: stocks seem ok? https://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI
Apr 08 17:19:26 <bgupta>	or you talking btc exchange stocks lie sdice am etc
Apr 08 17:19:31 <bgupta>	they seem ok?
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Apr 08 17:19:54 <jborkl_>	I don't look at fiat stocks
Apr 08 17:20:23 <bgupta>	which btc stocks are crashing?
Apr 08 17:20:37 <bgupta>	err getting shit on
Apr 08 17:20:40 <bgupta>	(not crashing)
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Apr 08 17:21:35 <bgupta>	right now we have churn… hard to say what will happen when it breaks.
Apr 08 17:21:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.7624 = 15.248 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:22:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7624 = 7.624 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:22:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7623 = 3.0492 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:22:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76211 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:22:23 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer crashing!
Apr 08 17:22:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762027 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:22:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762024 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:22:29 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 08 17:22:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762022 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:22:31 <bgupta>	not really...
Apr 08 17:22:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762021 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:22:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:22:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7611 = 7.611 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:22:40 <jborkl_>	That is correct, I said they were getting shit on
Apr 08 17:22:45 <jborkl_>	not crashing
Apr 08 17:23:02 <jurov>	https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q="bitcoin"&date=today+1-m&cmpt=q
Apr 08 17:23:10 <bgupta>	on volume of what 50 shares?
Apr 08 17:23:10 <ThickAsThieves>	The Great ASICminer Crash of 4-8-13
Apr 08 17:23:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76011 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:23:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75502 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:23:42 <jborkl_>	I did not name a stock
Apr 08 17:23:42 <jurov>	upward trend stopped.. but dunno whether recent google data is reliable
Apr 08 17:23:53 <jcpham>	so guys
Apr 08 17:23:55 <bgupta>	AM really is stuck in a trading range.
Apr 08 17:23:58 <jcpham>	i was just doing some maths
Apr 08 17:24:11 <jcpham>	and all those loans i made... that never repaid me
Apr 08 17:24:17 <jcpham>	$290,000
Apr 08 17:24:24 <ThickAsThieves>	upward trend is still there whatcha mean?
Apr 08 17:24:31 <ThickAsThieves>	https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin&date=1%2F2013%2012m&cmpt=q
Apr 08 17:24:43 <jurov>	double facepalm /o\ /o\
Apr 08 17:24:45 <ThickAsThieves>	lesson learned, dont loan btc
Apr 08 17:24:47 <jcpham>	that doesn't even make sense to me
Apr 08 17:24:54 <ThickAsThieves>	the chart?
Apr 08 17:25:10 <ThickAsThieves>	google is dumb and noted incomplete data as a cliff
Apr 08 17:25:10 <jcpham>	the relative value
Apr 08 17:25:45 <bgupta>	that data is not realtime
Apr 08 17:25:53 <jcpham>	all bitcoin searches halted
Apr 08 17:25:58 <jcpham>	no one cares anymore
Apr 08 17:26:39 <ThickAsThieves>	surely
Apr 08 17:26:44 <ThickAsThieves>	that would make the most sense
Apr 08 17:26:55 <jcpham>	i'm glad we can see eye to eye on this
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Apr 08 17:27:02 <jurov>	disregard today... it seems declining since wednesday... i doubt it takes them 3 days to aggregate all data
Apr 08 17:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30499999 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:27:06 <jcpham>	i thought you were about to say people were still searching for bitcoin
Apr 08 17:27:24 <jcpham>	and the google data in incomplete
Apr 08 17:27:35 <jborkl_>	socket down for 110 minutes now
Apr 08 17:27:38 <jcpham>	but i'm pretty sure all bitcoin searches basically stopped
Apr 08 17:27:49 <jcpham>	all at once if by magic
Apr 08 17:27:49 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 08 17:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.89 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.81 = 10.86 BTC [-]
Apr 08 17:28:32 <unbalanced_>	jborkl_, agree with you re: BTC equities having a bad run: VTX just traded on Havelock for 0.24, down huge from 0.799 peak
Apr 08 17:28:52 <bgupta>	new articles keep popping up like this http://www.zdnet.com/how-to-buy-and-sell-bitcoins-part-1-theory-7000013661/
Apr 08 17:29:13 <bgupta>	scarey "howtos"
Apr 08 17:29:16 <ThickAsThieves>	i sold all my vtx in high 70s
Apr 08 17:29:21 <ThickAsThieves>	twas fun
Apr 08 17:29:26 <unbalanced_>	yeah, to me. thanks again
Apr 08 17:29:30 <ll>	so that was you lol
Apr 08 17:29:32 <bgupta>	vtx is what?
Apr 08 17:29:39 <unbalanced_>	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=VTX
Apr 08 17:29:40 <ThickAsThieves>	cavirtex
Apr 08 17:29:51 <ThickAsThieves>	canadian currency exchange
Apr 08 17:29:58 <ThickAsThieves>	canuckoins
Apr 08 17:30:06 <unbalanced_>	The Mt. Gox of Canadia
Apr 08 17:30:19 <ll>	mm $207/btc there?
Apr 08 17:30:19 <bgupta>	gotcha
Apr 08 17:30:24 <unbalanced_>	Where BTC has already crossed $200 CAD, btw.
Apr 08 17:30:26 <jborkl_>	cad
Apr 08 17:30:27 <bgupta>	although there really is only one mtgox
Apr 08 17:30:38 <ThickAsThieves>	CAD is not real money
Apr 08 17:30:40 <ThickAsThieves>	is why
Apr 08 17:30:47 <unbalanced_>	Yes, at least Virtex functions...
Apr 08 17:30:57 <unbalanced_>	CAD = "dollarettes"
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Apr 08 17:31:02 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 08 17:31:17 <bgupta>	;;volume
Apr 08 17:31:18 <gribble>	Error: "volume" is not a valid command.
Apr 08 17:31:25 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 08 17:31:28 <ThickAsThieves>	Currently Almost a Dollar
Apr 08 17:31:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.75000, Best ask: 183.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 183.95000, 24 hour volume: 111564.57755450, 24 hour low: 160.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 180.22433
Apr 08 17:31:42 <bgupta>	wow 111K not bad.
Apr 08 17:32:02 <Bugpowder>	Havelock bubble finally popping?
Apr 08 17:32:14 <ThickAsThieves>	yep, i started trading there
Apr 08 17:32:16 <thestringpuller>	huh?
Apr 08 17:32:40 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 08 17:32:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.81000000 / 1.89166667 / 1.93000000 (21 shares, 39.72500000 BTC), 7D: 1.81000000 / 1.89860673 / 2.05990000 (104 shares, 197.45510000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.85700427 / 2.08000000 (700 shares, 1299.90299230 BTC)
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Apr 08 17:33:19 <Bugpowder>	Xrp sure is popping
Apr 08 17:33:43 <Bugpowder>	Down down down
Apr 08 17:34:25 <bgupta>	http://btctrading.wordpress.com/
Apr 08 17:37:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.763 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 17:39:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 17:39:45 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 93.631956 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.187637391468 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 08 17:39:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 08 17:39:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 184.00000, Best ask: 185.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 185.00000, 24 hour volume: 111564.57755450, 24 hour low: 160.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 180.22433
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Apr 08 17:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00301846 = 0.3018 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 17:54:35 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 08 17:54:36 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.81000000 / 1.88975 / 1.93000000 (20 shares, 37.79500000 BTC), 7D: 1.81000000 / 1.89860673 / 2.05990000 (104 shares, 197.45510000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.85700427 / 2.08000000 (700 shares, 1299.90299230 BTC)
Apr 08 17:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.24 = 1.68 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 17:59:44 <ThickAsThieves>	why is VTX crashing so hard anyway?
Apr 08 18:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.81 = 5.43 BTC [-]
Apr 08 18:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 14 @ 0.14952605 = 2.0934 BTC [+]
Apr 08 18:00:24 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 08 18:00:26 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 179.97
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Apr 08 18:03:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [+]
Apr 08 18:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 18:06:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00418 BTC [+]
Apr 08 18:09:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7945 BTC [+]
Apr 08 18:09:22 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 08 18:09:22 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 6 hours, 26 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
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Apr 08 18:17:09 <unbalanced_>	24hr vwap now over 180...
Apr 08 18:20:07 <bgupta>	http://consumerist.com/2013/04/08/nyc-bar-to-allow-patrons-to-buy-drinks-with-bitcoins/
Apr 08 18:23:04 <bgupta>	Hmmm. gotta try that just to see how smooth it is..
Apr 08 18:23:23 <bgupta>	talking about the transaction not the whisky.
Apr 08 18:23:59 <unbalanced_>	ThickAsThieves re: VTX I imagine it's because it stopped going up and some of the people who bought 10K worth noticed there were only a few dozen shares worth of bids over 0.20 BTC
Apr 08 18:24:13 <unbalanced_>	cue the race for the exits
Apr 08 18:24:22 <unbalanced_>	also, it doesn't pay a div
Apr 08 18:24:49 <unbalanced_>	er by "10K worth" I mean the 10,000 shares offered at IPO
Apr 08 18:25:09 <unbalanced_>	no one buying post IPO to support the price
Apr 08 18:27:41 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 08 18:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 108.7315223 / 142.65191654 / 172.70719171 (19154 shares, 4,736.51 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Apr 08 18:32:45 <thestringpuller>	;;seen topace|2
Apr 08 18:32:45 <gribble>	topace|2 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 3 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <topace|2> !ticker h him
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Apr 08 18:37:21 <bgupta>	who is the admin for bitbet (on IRC)
Apr 08 18:38:03 <kakobrekla>	me and mircea
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Apr 08 18:47:35 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: I want a refund.
Apr 08 18:47:40 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 08 18:48:01 <thestringpuller>	mircea and i* <- technically
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Apr 08 18:49:53 <kakobrekla>	perhaps a slash was missing
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Apr 08 18:56:22 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 08 18:56:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 186.49891, Best ask: 187.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50109, Last trade: 187.00000, 24 hour volume: 112828.65816047, 24 hour low: 161.29378, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 181.24809
Apr 08 18:56:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 08 18:56:26 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 08 18:56:58 <kakobrekla>	i always suspect trading is halted, when i see 0 sec
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Apr 08 19:00:23 <orkaa>	http://i.qkme.me/3tryd1.jpg
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Apr 08 19:02:25 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Apr 08 19:04:33 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
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Apr 08 19:04:42 <ThickAsThieves>	that has crossed my mind too
Apr 08 19:07:05 <kakobrekla>	my gf is smat enough :(
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Apr 08 19:07:15 <kakobrekla>	smart
Apr 08 19:11:19 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd say my wife is smart enough, but she's so far removed from bitcoin it would not be so simple
Apr 08 19:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.80999999 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:14:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 75 @ 0.00329 = 0.2468 BTC [+]
Apr 08 19:15:05 <orkaa>	ThickAsThieves: just create an onetime script that sells everything with a market order and transfers it to her bank account
Apr 08 19:15:15 <orkaa>	or sth :)
Apr 08 19:16:20 <benkay>	are we talking about bail strategies?
Apr 08 19:16:35 <bVector>	benkay: http://i.qkme.me/3tryd1.jpg
Apr 08 19:16:46 <benkay>	ah
Apr 08 19:17:05 <benkay>	i see you have all chosen where to make your beds on the lady-triangle
Apr 08 19:17:12 <benkay>	pretty and sane?
Apr 08 19:17:30 <benkay>	i went with pretty and smart
Apr 08 19:17:31 <orkaa>	pretty insane
Apr 08 19:17:51 <benkay>	and you didn't get smart?
Apr 08 19:18:32 <benkay>	fast/cheap/good pick two in business
Apr 08 19:18:43 <benkay>	smart/pretty/sane pick two in women
Apr 08 19:18:51 <mod6>	;;tslb
Apr 08 19:18:56 <gribble>	Time since last block: 50 minutes and 2 seconds
Apr 08 19:18:59 <mod6>	wtf
Apr 08 19:19:10 <benkay>	interdasting...
Apr 08 19:19:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00065675 = 8.0452 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:19:21 <kakobrekla>	its true
Apr 08 19:19:22 <mod6>	;;bc,stats
Apr 08 19:19:24 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230349 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1490 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8758402.77339 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.14574
Apr 08 19:19:32 <orkaa>	its not true
Apr 08 19:19:42 <orkaa>	i've seen stupid+ugly+insane
Apr 08 19:19:54 <benkay>	talking about the optimization, friend.
Apr 08 19:20:00 <kakobrekla>	i was speaking about 349 being last block
Apr 08 19:20:03 <benkay>	not the whole space
Apr 08 19:20:18 <benkay>	and that, kakobrekla, is interesting.
Apr 08 19:20:33 <kakobrekla>	ah
Apr 08 19:20:39 <kakobrekla>	50 just poped up
Apr 08 19:20:42 <kakobrekla>	rally may resume
Apr 08 19:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 08 19:21:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 186.00001, Best ask: 186.84340, Bid-ask spread: 0.84339, Last trade: 187.00000, 24 hour volume: 113791.55742270, 24 hour low: 161.29378, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 181.32145
Apr 08 19:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	what, nothing ?
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Apr 08 19:21:48 <kakobrekla>	yeah pft 180
Apr 08 19:21:50 <kakobrekla>	thats nothing
Apr 08 19:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	srsly.
Apr 08 19:23:09 <punkman>	"1.   We have only just opened 2.  We have no previous history 3.  We are taking your money in Advance"
Apr 08 19:23:16 <punkman>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.0;topicseen
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Apr 08 19:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.23999999 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:25:56 <mircea_popescu>	win.
Apr 08 19:29:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78992 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 19:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.23999999 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:30:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.23999999 = 0.48 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:30:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78993 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 19:30:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7943 = 1.5886 BTC [+]
Apr 08 19:30:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7944 = 1.5888 BTC [+]
Apr 08 19:32:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7944 = 1.5888 BTC [+]
Apr 08 19:35:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1019 = 0.4076 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 19:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.23999999 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 19:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Apr 08 19:42:29 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h vtx
Apr 08 19:42:30 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.23999999 / 0.33127558 / 0.39000000 (217 shares, 71.88680004 BTC), 7D: 0.23999999 / 0.42829361 / 0.57499999 (1076 shares, 460.84391999 BTC), 30D: 0.23999999 / 0.4328512 / 0.79900000 (13612 shares, 5891.97053324 BTC)
Apr 08 19:42:39 <kakobrekla>	what happend there?
Apr 08 19:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	what happened there
Apr 08 19:42:42 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 08 19:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	omfg this guy :D
Apr 08 19:42:47 <kakobrekla>	first.
Apr 08 19:43:04 <mircea_popescu>	hehehe
Apr 08 19:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	may the bird of paradise fly up your nose!
Apr 08 19:43:25 <kakobrekla>	:p
Apr 08 19:43:53 <kakobrekla>	(not sure is that good or bad)
Apr 08 19:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	it's an old song
Apr 08 19:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3856 @ 0.00065705 = 2.5336 BTC [+]
Apr 08 19:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 873 @ 0.00066211 = 0.578 BTC [+]
Apr 08 19:44:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2707 @ 0.00066974 = 1.813 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 19:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P140T] 718 @ 0.03241474 = 23.2738 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2721 = 0.8163 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.2721 = 1.9047 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8000001 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:51:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.79397 = 1.5879 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:51:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79399 BTC [+]
Apr 08 19:51:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.794 = 3.97 BTC [+]
Apr 08 19:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.21000001 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:52:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9493 @ 0.00066974 = 6.3578 BTC [+]
Apr 08 19:53:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.21 = 0.84 BTC [-]
Apr 08 19:53:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 49 @ 0.00418 = 0.2048 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 19:57:01 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 08 19:57:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00276101 / 0.0029175 / 0.00301846 (7205 shares, 21.02 BTC), 7D: 0.00276101 / 0.00315343 / 0.00400173 (467223 shares, 1,473.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00276101 / 0.00364184 / 0.006 (1638027 shares, 5,965.44 BTC)
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Apr 08 20:01:30 <kakobrekla>	"...
Apr 08 20:01:30 <kakobrekla>	Since October 2012, BTC market conditions changed, and our algorithm stop trading, pointing to hold BTCs as the most profit action to be taken. So we did this way,
Apr 08 20:01:30 <kakobrekla>	holding BTCs to avoid bad sell from our shareholders. This strategy now proved to be correct and to prize our algorithm. We proud of a very good work.
Apr 08 20:01:30 <kakobrekla>	..."
Apr 08 20:01:32 <kakobrekla>	LMAO
Apr 08 20:01:38 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170003.msg1776817#msg1776817
Apr 08 20:02:42 <bgupta>	umm a bitcoin trading company that just holds bitcoins that you could just as easily hold yourself?
Apr 08 20:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	so wait...
Apr 08 20:03:04 <mircea_popescu>	for 6 months thios ?!
Apr 08 20:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	About you trollers , all I have to say is: "clap clap clap clap ! ". May you get it and may it be penicillin resistant.
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Apr 08 20:08:04 <bgupta>	So checking my math sdice has market cap of ~$55,000,000 AM $56,240,000 and bbet about $1,850,000?
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Apr 08 20:09:02 <bgupta>	al seem pretty high, but I think that reflects an expectation of growth in usd/btc ratio.
Apr 08 20:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2721 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 20:10:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1019 = 0.4076 BTC [-]
Apr 08 20:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Apr 08 20:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Apr 08 20:19:08 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00079521 / 0.00082831 / 0.00085021 (2492 shares, 2.06 BTC), 7D: 0.0007531 / 0.00083127 / 0.00195 (2520 shares, 2.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00050015 / 0.00189327 / 0.00201401 (79740 shares, 150.97 BTC)
Apr 08 20:19:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc  0.00082831 * 10000000
Apr 08 20:19:39 <gribble>	8283.1
Apr 08 20:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	yeh like 8k btc at current prices.
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Apr 08 20:20:27 <mircea_popescu>	course i wouldn't sell it at that.
Apr 08 20:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.2199999 = 0.88 BTC [+]
Apr 08 20:22:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.22 = 0.66 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 20:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2721 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 20:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2721 = 0.5442 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 20:36:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79399 BTC [-]
Apr 08 20:40:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.793991 BTC [+]
Apr 08 20:40:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79399 BTC [-]
Apr 08 20:44:09 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 08 20:44:11 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 110.64241833 / 143.38873515 / 172.70719171 (19872 shares, 4,759.78 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 08 20:44:32 <KRS1>	even though it went down its just gonna keep going up isnt it
Apr 08 20:45:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.79399 = 1.588 BTC [-]
Apr 08 20:46:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.794 BTC [+]
Apr 08 20:48:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00333327 = 0.3333 BTC [+]
Apr 08 20:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2721 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 20:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.30495 = 1.2198 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 20:57:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13519 @ 0.00066915 = 9.0462 BTC [-]
Apr 08 20:57:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 968 @ 0.00067556 = 0.6539 BTC [+]
Apr 08 20:57:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5813 @ 0.00068176 = 3.9631 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 21:05:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 08 21:05:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 188.62001, Best ask: 189.79600, Bid-ask spread: 1.17599, Last trade: 189.79700, 24 hour volume: 111786.06139855, 24 hour low: 166.69346, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 182.09643
Apr 08 21:05:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 08 21:05:38 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230366 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1473 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, 20 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8747950.05458 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.00952
Apr 08 21:08:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.794 = 1.588 BTC [+]
Apr 08 21:09:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7944 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 21:13:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Apr 08 21:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.24149999 BTC [+]
Apr 08 21:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.2415 = 0.966 BTC [+]
Apr 08 21:16:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.771 = 3.855 BTC [-]
Apr 08 21:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29000001 BTC [+]
Apr 08 21:20:56 <ThickAsThieves>	gox queue 16820
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Apr 08 21:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.273 = 0.546 BTC [-]
Apr 08 21:36:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4821 @ 0.00065675 = 3.1662 BTC [-]
Apr 08 21:36:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19864 @ 0.00065356 = 12.9823 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 21:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.273 = 1.092 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 21:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27205002 BTC [-]
Apr 08 21:39:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00333327 = 2.5 BTC [+]
Apr 08 21:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.272 = 0.816 BTC [-]
Apr 08 21:44:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.794 = 1.588 BTC [+]
Apr 08 21:46:39 <ThickAsThieves>	does anyone know where friedcat first mentioned doing test boards for board members?
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Apr 08 21:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2999999 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 21:52:52 <unbalanced_>	Wow, buying 50 BTC on Virtex right now would drive the price to $242 CAD. Another 60 BTC and we'd hit $250.
Apr 08 21:53:43 <ThickAsThieves>	sounds like they need more coins
Apr 08 21:54:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i will sell them some for $210
Apr 08 21:54:26 <tiberiusiv>	virtex limits prevent them from having liquidity
Apr 08 21:54:39 <tiberiusiv>	max balance is like 10-20k
Apr 08 21:54:57 <gesell>	some funny single stepping on the ask wall
Apr 08 21:55:48 <gesell>	(from 180 down to 168)
Apr 08 21:57:28 <gesell>	basically there are buys for 500btc at 179, 178 177 176 etc. suppose this is natural. i dont watch the walls too often
Apr 08 21:57:55 <gesell>	and sorry, i guess i mean the bid wall, not ask wall
Apr 08 21:57:59 <gesell>	late. will sleep
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Apr 08 22:02:34 <ThickAsThieves>	its sorta natural
Apr 08 22:02:59 <ThickAsThieves>	but lately walls have been more spaced out i think
Apr 08 22:03:13 <ThickAsThieves>	always good to see support walls tho
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Apr 08 22:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.721 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 22:27:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1687 @ 0.00068176 = 1.1501 BTC [+]
Apr 08 22:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14824 @ 0.00068422 = 10.1429 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 22:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.72 = 3.44 BTC [-]
Apr 08 22:32:55 <gesell>	ThickAsThieves: just found it odd the near symmetry of the support walls (all around 500btc, maybe 800)
Apr 08 22:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.721 = 6.884 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 22:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10917 @ 0.00069469 = 7.5839 BTC [+]
Apr 08 22:43:24 <Namworld>	might be just that with price so high, people just don't take time to place orders at fractional prices and just go by full dollar amounts
Apr 08 22:43:34 <benkay>	sounds familiar
Apr 08 22:43:36 <Namworld>	Steps still look somewhat as natural as usual
Apr 08 22:43:54 <benkay>	options are priced the way they are for a reason
Apr 08 22:44:19 <benkay>	forced bucketing of participants
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Apr 08 22:49:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3874 @ 0.00070023 = 2.7127 BTC [+]
Apr 08 22:49:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10259 @ 0.0006892 = 7.0705 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 23:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11867 @ 0.00068403 = 8.1174 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 23:06:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.098 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 23:24:43 <ChaangNoi>	come on 200
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Apr 08 23:29:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.794 BTC [+]
Apr 08 23:29:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.794 = 1.588 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 23:35:21 <jcpham>	so no 200 yet
Apr 08 23:40:12 <guruvan>	nope - gotta wait till tomorrow afternoon
Apr 08 23:40:56 <guruvan>	have a customer purchase to make, then it can go to $200 tyvm
Apr 08 23:41:06 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Apr 08 23:41:38 <guruvan>	what's happening goat?
Apr 08 23:42:33 <bgupta>	people other than sheeple are buying. any idea whom?
Apr 08 23:43:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.098 = 0.294 BTC [-]
Apr 08 23:43:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.0975 = 0.4875 BTC [-]
Apr 08 23:43:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.097 = 0.97 BTC [-]
Apr 08 23:43:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.096 = 0.384 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 23:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2721 = 0.5442 BTC [+]
Apr 08 23:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.272 BTC [-]
Apr 08 23:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.27111007 = 0.8133 BTC [-]
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Apr 08 23:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.2999999 = 0.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 23:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.2999999 = 0.9 BTC [+]
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Apr 08 23:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.258 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 00:10:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00306227 = 1.378 BTC [-]
Apr 09 00:10:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4083 @ 0.00068638 = 2.8025 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 00:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.72 BTC [-]
Apr 09 00:21:21 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: you around yo?
Apr 09 00:21:37 <Bugpowder>	yah for a bit
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Apr 09 00:22:14 <thestringpuller>	I'm still thinking about buying calls but I dunno if 250 is a good break even
Apr 09 00:22:22 <thestringpuller>	I feel like this month is even riskier than last
Apr 09 00:22:46 <Bugpowder>	well
Apr 09 00:22:57 <Bugpowder>	I usually buy when the spot is way above 24hprc
Apr 09 00:23:10 <Bugpowder>	at strike
Apr 09 00:23:17 <Bugpowder>	or a little abovee
Apr 09 00:23:26 <thestringpuller>	;;24,hprc
Apr 09 00:23:26 <gribble>	Error: "24,hprc" is not a valid command.
Apr 09 00:23:32 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 09 00:23:33 <gribble>	183.32
Apr 09 00:23:44 <thestringpuller>	It's about 11 dollars
Apr 09 00:24:07 <Bugpowder>	remember the bot overpays
Apr 09 00:24:31 <Bugpowder>	over and near the strike
Apr 09 00:24:41 <Bugpowder>	due to time premium
Apr 09 00:24:52 <Bugpowder>	so you can exit at break-even below 250
Apr 09 00:24:55 <Bugpowder>	most likely
Apr 09 00:25:08 <Bugpowder>	what calls r u thinkng
Apr 09 00:25:12 <thestringpuller>	Damn
Apr 09 00:25:18 <thestringpuller>	I wanted to see one last clash of the bears
Apr 09 00:25:23 <thestringpuller>	Before entering a 195 position
Apr 09 00:25:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 350 @ 0.00327 = 1.1445 BTC [-]
Apr 09 00:25:36 <thestringpuller>	but it seems there is a legitimate demand for coin
Apr 09 00:25:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00328 = 0.0492 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:25:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 85 @ 0.00328 = 0.2788 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:26:04 <Bugpowder>	no fucking shit dude
Apr 09 00:26:13 <Bugpowder>	the buy pressure is inexorable
Apr 09 00:26:37 <thestringpuller>	uh yea, but is it all speculators or what?
Apr 09 00:26:44 <Bugpowder>	the day I wake up and the gox wait list has gone down is the day I sell.
Apr 09 00:26:49 <Bugpowder>	not before
Apr 09 00:27:01 <Namworld>	gox wait list?
Apr 09 00:27:06 <dub>	isnt it a list of people waiting to cash out?
Apr 09 00:27:06 <bit_buyer>	how do you find out the wait list?
Apr 09 00:27:08 <Namworld>	Where can I get info on THAT
Apr 09 00:27:10 <kakobrekla>	its has been going down
Apr 09 00:27:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 355 @ 0.00329 = 1.168 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 00:27:19 <Bugpowder>	It's over 15,000
Apr 09 00:27:28 <Bugpowder>	kakobrekla: since when?
Apr 09 00:27:34 <dub>	since you only need verified if you are cashing out big $$
Apr 09 00:27:39 <kakobrekla>	dunno someone posted earlier
Apr 09 00:28:00 <kakobrekla>	might want to dobule check it
Apr 09 00:28:08 <thestringpuller>	dude I have to recompile bitcoind
Apr 09 00:28:09 <thestringpuller>	bummer
Apr 09 00:28:35 <Bugpowder>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170107.0
Apr 09 00:29:29 <dub>	do you need to verify to deposit?
Apr 09 00:30:12 <jcpham>	who knows
Apr 09 00:30:31 <Bugpowder>	yes
Apr 09 00:30:38 <Bugpowder>	for international wire
Apr 09 00:30:53 <guruvan>	[21:34:54] <thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net> uh yea, but is it all speculators or what? << orders I have are new money going in - not speculators
Apr 09 00:30:59 <Bugpowder>	n order to make Euro deposits you need to have a "verified" or "trusted" account status. Please visit https://mtgox.com/forms/verification to apply.
Apr 09 00:31:08 <Bugpowder>	nternational Wire Transfers
Apr 09 00:31:08 <Bugpowder>	 
Apr 09 00:31:09 <Bugpowder>	Deposits
Apr 09 00:31:10 <Bugpowder>	 First-timer depositors are requested to upload their copy of the official ID to facilitate this process.
Apr 09 00:31:29 <Bugpowder>	not sure if its absolutely required for international wire
Apr 09 00:31:50 <Bugpowder>	but a friend has been itching to buy more on gox and has been waiting for verification to go thru
Apr 09 00:31:52 <guruvan>	last I saw the verification queue was 14K people
Apr 09 00:32:01 <jcpham>	15k now i think
Apr 09 00:32:12 <guruvan>	OTC FTW
Apr 09 00:32:20 <Bugpowder>	15500
Apr 09 00:32:33 <jcpham>	otc traces just keep getting bigger really
Apr 09 00:32:33 <guruvan>	holy shiiiat
Apr 09 00:32:37 <jcpham>	*trades
Apr 09 00:33:01 <Bugpowder>	this is kinda funny
Apr 09 00:33:02 <Bugpowder>	http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3tsbo3/
Apr 09 00:33:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00067982 = 10.4352 BTC [-]
Apr 09 00:33:05 <guruvan>	no kidding jcpham - the trades I'm making are an order of magnitude larger
Apr 09 00:33:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.0006758 = 0.1352 BTC [-]
Apr 09 00:33:09 <jcpham>	you can move money in and out of gox if you know how but know is saying it
Apr 09 00:33:18 <Bugpowder>	I need to get a lawyer
Apr 09 00:33:22 <jcpham>	but no one
Apr 09 00:33:24 <Bugpowder>	to do the gox apostille
Apr 09 00:33:30 <guruvan>	the simple way is never deal in usd at gox
Apr 09 00:33:30 <Bugpowder>	PITA
Apr 09 00:33:43 <jcpham>	but you can buy mtgox usd otc
Apr 09 00:33:49 <guruvan>	buy btc and convert to usd another way
Apr 09 00:33:56 <jcpham>	or are the codes going away
Apr 09 00:34:07 <guruvan>	they are - but not at bitstamp or btc-e
Apr 09 00:34:20 <jcpham>	i've always in the past bought codes
Apr 09 00:34:23 <guruvan>	the codes are going away for US citizens IIRC -
Apr 09 00:34:32 <jcpham>	that makes me a bad person now?
Apr 09 00:34:36 <Bugpowder>	so whats up with the ladder between 170 and 180 on gox bids.
Apr 09 00:34:40 <Bugpowder>	pretty cool
Apr 09 00:34:44 <guruvan>	I like trading in codes, because I don't worry about the spot price then - make the trade when it's easy to do
Apr 09 00:34:53 <tiberiusiv>	how long do mtgox wires take
Apr 09 00:35:00 <jcpham>	i see the problem though
Apr 09 00:35:02 <guruvan>	you're a money laundering terrorist jcpham
Apr 09 00:35:10 <jcpham>	jeez
Apr 09 00:35:20 <Bugpowder>	The wires out hit my account within 24 hours
Apr 09 00:35:29 <jcpham>	someone really should've told me sooner
Apr 09 00:35:45 *	guruvan tries to help
Apr 09 00:35:46 <Bugpowder>	The wires in, at least 18 months ago, took 24-36 hours to hit my gox account.
Apr 09 00:35:50 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: you are fully verified?
Apr 09 00:35:53 <Bugpowder>	yes
Apr 09 00:35:57 <Bugpowder>	not trusted though
Apr 09 00:35:59 *	guruvan calls the DHS gestapos
Apr 09 00:36:08 <tiberiusiv>	verification is 2 ID documents?
Apr 09 00:36:12 <Bugpowder>	10k/50k daily / monthly max
Apr 09 00:36:13 <thestringpuller>	lol I closed my MtGox account
Apr 09 00:36:22 <thestringpuller>	use smaller exchanges
Apr 09 00:36:28 <Bugpowder>	its ID an utility bill
Apr 09 00:36:30 <guruvan>	I haven't closed mine - but I damn sure don't hold any funds in it
Apr 09 00:36:30 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: 50k a month max
Apr 09 00:36:33 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Apr 09 00:36:35 <Bugpowder>	sux
Apr 09 00:36:38 <tiberiusiv>	thats pathetic
Apr 09 00:36:46 <Bugpowder>	yeah, you need to get trusted
Apr 09 00:36:49 <Bugpowder>	then 100k/500k
Apr 09 00:36:52 <tiberiusiv>	lol all the btc millionaires cant cashout
Apr 09 00:36:57 <Bugpowder>	try dat
Apr 09 00:36:57 <tiberiusiv>	how do you get trusted
Apr 09 00:37:13 <Bugpowder>	3 docs, noterized and apostilled.
Apr 09 00:37:14 <jcpham>	they can in physical assets and x amount per x
Apr 09 00:37:19 <Bugpowder>	the apostilled is the annoying part
Apr 09 00:37:19 <jcpham>	or otc trades
Apr 09 00:37:25 <thestringpuller>	the btc millionaires can cash out, using dark pool liquidation
Apr 09 00:37:31 <tiberiusiv>	jcpham: good luck doing millions in otc
Apr 09 00:37:42 <tiberiusiv>	take you forever
Apr 09 00:37:48 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: there are secret dark pools out there
Apr 09 00:37:49 <guruvan>	otc trades are so so much easier
Apr 09 00:37:50 <tiberiusiv>	most otc bids are small time
Apr 09 00:37:52 <jcpham>	i was thinking a villa
Apr 09 00:38:00 <Bugpowder>	orc makes me nervous
Apr 09 00:38:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 26 @ 0.004185 = 0.1088 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:38:01 <jcpham>	something tropical
Apr 09 00:38:03 <Bugpowder>	otc
Apr 09 00:38:05 <tiberiusiv>	agreed bugpowder
Apr 09 00:38:23 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: where you can trade 1k's of btc's without affecting the public market price
Apr 09 00:38:25 <Bugpowder>	although…  from a tax perspective…
Apr 09 00:38:33 <jcpham>	what he said
Apr 09 00:38:37 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller bs i dont believe
Apr 09 00:38:48 <jcpham>	anything we do otc without effecting the market price in quantity is a win
Apr 09 00:38:58 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: then don't?
Apr 09 00:38:59 <tiberiusiv>	otc does affect the price
Apr 09 00:39:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.004189 = 0.0209 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:39:05 <jcpham>	psssh
Apr 09 00:39:08 <guruvan>	helps to level the inter-exchange prices
Apr 09 00:39:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.004198 = 0.042 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:39:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 54 @ 0.004199 = 0.2267 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:39:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0042 = 0.021 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:39:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.794 = 1.588 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:40:09 <jcpham>	i've bought/sold at a discount/premium. just depends
Apr 09 00:40:19 <Bugpowder>	loving my mint.com net worth over time plots these days.
Apr 09 00:40:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 95 @ 0.0042 = 0.399 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:41:08 <tiberiusiv>	jcpham: discount premium to what, the last price or bid ask prices
Apr 09 00:41:22 <tiberiusiv>	theres always 2 prices in a given market not 1
Apr 09 00:41:35 <thestringpuller>	did ASICMINER pay div's recently or something?
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Apr 09 00:44:30 <Bugpowder>	fastcash4bitcoins isn't that bad
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Apr 09 00:44:45 <tiberiusiv>	his 10k limits will trigger all sorts of flags
Apr 09 00:44:53 <Bugpowder>	not really
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Apr 09 00:45:26 <tiberiusiv>	yes they will read US regulations if you are depositing 10k or under in rapid sequence it triggers flags
Apr 09 00:45:38 <Bugpowder>	and what happens then
Apr 09 00:45:39 <Bugpowder>	??
Apr 09 00:45:42 <Bugpowder>	nothing
Apr 09 00:45:45 <tiberiusiv>	it gets submitted to the treasury
Apr 09 00:45:49 <Bugpowder>	does it?
Apr 09 00:45:57 <tiberiusiv>	its better to do large single deposits
Apr 09 00:46:00 <Bugpowder>	or does it just get filed in the back room
Apr 09 00:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:46:03 <tiberiusiv>	then small structured ones
Apr 09 00:46:08 <dub>	thestringpuller: last couple of weeks (+ this weeks) divs have been low to cover costs of rolling another 50th
Apr 09 00:46:09 <Bugpowder>	can't help it
Apr 09 00:46:16 <Bugpowder>	there are withdrawal limits
Apr 09 00:46:23 <Bugpowder>	I'm not structuring
Apr 09 00:46:32 <Bugpowder>	just withdrawing what I can
Apr 09 00:46:35 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder in the event of a question session what do you tell the bank inquiry
Apr 09 00:46:48 <Bugpowder>	I am withdrawing my bitcoin cashout
Apr 09 00:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7209 BTC [+]
Apr 09 00:47:04 <tiberiusiv>	i guess with the daily processing that goes on the room is most likely filled to the max
Apr 09 00:47:10 <tiberiusiv>	with useless paperwork
Apr 09 00:47:17 <Bugpowder>	yup
Apr 09 00:47:23 <thestringpuller>	dude why the fuck are you people laundering money?
Apr 09 00:47:28 <Bugpowder>	at casinos, they never actually submit the paperwork
Apr 09 00:47:30 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 09 00:47:35 <Bugpowder>	just keep it on file
Apr 09 00:47:41 <Bugpowder>	don't know about at banks.
Apr 09 00:47:48 <thestringpuller>	"structuring" "layering" what is this nonsense...
Apr 09 00:47:59 <tiberiusiv>	baller problems
Apr 09 00:48:17 <Bugpowder>	structuring is breaking a +10k transaction into smaller ones to disguise its illegal origin
Apr 09 00:48:21 <Bugpowder>	fucking selloff
Apr 09 00:48:27 <thestringpuller>	:D
Apr 09 00:48:29 <Bugpowder>	and to avoid reporting laws
Apr 09 00:48:36 <tiberiusiv>	its mostly to avoid reporting laws
Apr 09 00:48:38 <thestringpuller>	Bears coming in hard
Apr 09 00:48:48 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 09 00:48:49 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 183.47
Apr 09 00:48:59 <Bugpowder>	I'm reporting the income, and not doing anything illegal.  Just selling off my coins slowly.
Apr 09 00:49:00 <tiberiusiv>	what i dont get is why the pathetic exchange people are imposing rules that do not exist
Apr 09 00:49:07 <Bugpowder>	AML?
Apr 09 00:49:12 <Bugpowder>	I think that exists.
Apr 09 00:49:19 <tiberiusiv>	AML is nothing more then 2 documents.
Apr 09 00:49:35 <tiberiusiv>	AML itself is a concept that makes no sense
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Apr 09 00:49:46 <tiberiusiv>	the word didnt even exist until the 80's
Apr 09 00:49:53 <dub>	nplz that was like 1000btc
Apr 09 00:50:08 <Bugpowder>	newsy…..  bedtime.
Apr 09 00:50:14 <tiberiusiv>	AMl mostly applies to pure cash business's like drugs
Apr 09 00:50:21 <tiberiusiv>	btc is 100% transparent
Apr 09 00:50:41 <taub>	until you send it through satoshi
Apr 09 00:50:43 <Bugpowder>	uhhh… SR buyers
Apr 09 00:50:54 <tiberiusiv>	they do small $
Apr 09 00:51:02 <tiberiusiv>	SR is smalltime
Apr 09 00:51:03 <Bugpowder>	SR sellers then
Apr 09 00:51:06 <Bugpowder>	sure
Apr 09 00:51:11 <tiberiusiv>	a street in brooklyn does more volume then what SR does
Apr 09 00:51:20 <Bugpowder>	if you want to launder serious money, you go to HSBC
Apr 09 00:51:23 <Bugpowder>	or Wachovia
Apr 09 00:51:26 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 09 00:51:26 <Bugpowder>	or Wells Fargo
Apr 09 00:51:40 <thestringpuller>	WAMU
Apr 09 00:51:41 <Bugpowder>	its a joke
Apr 09 00:51:58 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 00:51:59 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 46.238126 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0926606867961 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
Apr 09 00:52:02 <Bugpowder>	pay a fine, no cuffs.
Apr 09 00:52:04 <Bugpowder>	fuck that shit
Apr 09 00:52:22 <thestringpuller>	this is ridiculous Bugpowder, the buying power is unprecedented
Apr 09 00:52:34 <thestringpuller>	I think there have been at last 1mn in coins dumped today
Apr 09 00:52:40 <thestringpuller>	least*
Apr 09 00:52:50 <Bugpowder>	I was talking to a guy next to me on a flight to LA
Apr 09 00:53:07 <Bugpowder>	by the end of the flight he was begging me to take $100k from him, and buy coins.
Apr 09 00:53:14 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 09 00:53:23 <Bugpowder>	dude was a trip
Apr 09 00:53:30 <tiberiusiv>	most bitcoin speculators are small time
Apr 09 00:53:41 <guruvan>	take his money?
Apr 09 00:53:45 <bit_buyer>	what do you consider big time?
Apr 09 00:53:46 <Bugpowder>	he was talking so much shit about hunting lions and elephants
Apr 09 00:53:53 <Bugpowder>	I did not take his money
Apr 09 00:54:12 <Bugpowder>	but said if I set up a legal framework for where I could take his money, I would
Apr 09 00:54:17 <tiberiusiv>	bit_buyer: well given the size of btc outstanding, 10k+ coins
Apr 09 00:54:20 <taub>	are you done with trading?
Apr 09 00:54:22 <thestringpuller>	whoa mega bids up at 192
Apr 09 00:54:23 <Bugpowder>	He gave me a number of a lawyer that would do it.
Apr 09 00:54:30 <taub>	dont you want to grow your bitcoin acc even more?
Apr 09 00:54:59 <tiberiusiv>	taub at some point theres nopoint in adding risk for meager gains
Apr 09 00:55:09 <Bugpowder>	well, I'd take 2 and 20.
Apr 09 00:55:14 <tiberiusiv>	btc trading is useless as exchange fees are too high
Apr 09 00:55:24 <tiberiusiv>	the brokers win.
Apr 09 00:55:35 <Bugpowder>	but its only worth it if you set up something with like $5m in investors
Apr 09 00:55:38 <bit_buyer>	how many people do you think are putting $1M+ to work in this market? big buyers wanting to be big time
Apr 09 00:55:39 <Bugpowder>	to cover overhead
Apr 09 00:55:48 <tiberiusiv>	bit_buyer: nobody.
Apr 09 00:55:50 <bit_buyer>	or do most of the big holders have coins from much lower prices
Apr 09 00:55:57 <Bugpowder>	^this
Apr 09 00:56:06 <tiberiusiv>	bit_buyer: not even 1% of coin float trades on a given day.
Apr 09 00:56:20 <Bugpowder>	Teppy got his from sub penny days
Apr 09 00:56:37 <tiberiusiv>	very few people have coins from early days and held out the entire time
Apr 09 00:56:47 <Bugpowder>	you know this how?
Apr 09 00:56:56 <tiberiusiv>	umm all markets are like that.
Apr 09 00:57:01 <Bugpowder>	the whitepaper analysis suggests otherwise
Apr 09 00:57:04 <tiberiusiv>	thats how.
Apr 09 00:57:08 <Bugpowder>	although that was before the runup
Apr 09 00:57:10 <Bugpowder>	to 200
Apr 09 00:57:12 <tiberiusiv>	+ top 500 adresses control over 40%
Apr 09 00:57:12 <bit_buyer>	the folks i know with 10k+ bought in the $10 range
Apr 09 00:57:41 <tiberiusiv>	btc wealth distribution is bad
Apr 09 00:57:56 <tiberiusiv>	you could argue 50 people control 30%+ coins.
Apr 09 00:58:19 <Bugpowder>	its flattening faster than any economic medium in history
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Apr 09 00:58:30 <taub>	flattening?
Apr 09 00:58:47 <Bugpowder>	I'm sure the distribution has changed dramatically in the last 3 months
Apr 09 00:59:07 <Bugpowder>	much has changed since this paper.
Apr 09 00:59:08 <Bugpowder>	http://eprint.iacr.org/2012/584.pdf
Apr 09 00:59:21 <Bugpowder>	I wish they would repeat there analysis.
Apr 09 00:59:28 <thestringpuller>	they have the methods
Apr 09 00:59:28 <Bugpowder>	to see how it has changed
Apr 09 00:59:33 <thestringpuller>	just do the methods yourself
Apr 09 00:59:37 <Bugpowder>	maybe they are repeating it
Apr 09 01:00:10 <taub>	got more papers on bitcon?
Apr 09 01:00:34 <taub>	by flattenign you mean the wealth being spread around yea
Apr 09 01:01:16 <taub>	?
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Apr 09 01:01:21 <Bugpowder>	don't have more papers, but yes, redistribution from the early big holders to the 3000 new entrants a day
Apr 09 01:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9367 @ 0.00068141 = 6.3828 BTC [+]
Apr 09 01:01:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00068599 = 8.3691 BTC [+]
Apr 09 01:01:36 <Bugpowder>	2000 people are getting verified a day at gox
Apr 09 01:01:39 <tiberiusiv>	lol redistrubution
Apr 09 01:01:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3445 @ 0.00069106 = 2.3807 BTC [+]
Apr 09 01:01:44 <tiberiusiv>	new holders are getting 1-2 btc at max.
Apr 09 01:02:07 <Bugpowder>	The least I have sold is 3BTC
Apr 09 01:02:11 <Bugpowder>	to someone
Apr 09 01:02:13 <tiberiusiv>	redistribution will be when the big holders unload at super high prices with a liquidity surge, and hte newcomers are left holding the bag
Apr 09 01:02:17 <Bugpowder>	the most is 100
Apr 09 01:02:26 <taub>	k
Apr 09 01:02:32 <Bugpowder>	fuck
Apr 09 01:02:34 <Bugpowder>	1am
Apr 09 01:02:35 <Bugpowder>	goodnight
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Apr 09 01:02:39 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: that's not the case though a few big holders have businesses to operate
Apr 09 01:02:49 <taub>	exactly tiberiusiv
Apr 09 01:02:57 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: which depends on recurrence
Apr 09 01:03:07 <taub>	is it just a ponzi after all?..
Apr 09 01:03:28 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: sure if the only purpose of BTC were to store value it would immediately become a ponzi but it's being used for a lot more atm
Apr 09 01:03:39 <taub>	hard to tell, people need to actually start using bitcoin
Apr 09 01:03:46 <thestringpuller>	they are
Apr 09 01:03:53 <thestringpuller>	bitcoinstore is set to hit it's goal
Apr 09 01:04:05 <dub>	;;ticker
Apr 09 01:04:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 192.60000, Best ask: 192.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 192.60000, 24 hour volume: 103972.42065487, 24 hour low: 170.87775, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 184.69550
Apr 09 01:04:22 <thestringpuller>	155,811 sales via bitcoin @ bitcoin store
Apr 09 01:04:37 <thestringpuller>	they plan to do 850,000 in sales by june 30th which is very doable
Apr 09 01:04:50 <thestringpuller>	in fact I would make a bbet just to prove it :P
Apr 09 01:05:58 <dub>	;;calc [ticker --avg]*[ticker --vol]
Apr 09 01:06:00 <gribble>	19187913.05
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Apr 09 01:06:39 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker --vol
Apr 09 01:06:44 <gribble>	103865.41297988
Apr 09 01:06:49 <dub>	a couple of weeks ago 6mn/day was huge
Apr 09 01:07:25 <tiberiusiv>	taub its not a ponzi
Apr 09 01:07:35 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin was invented to allow people to start businesses
Apr 09 01:07:42 <tiberiusiv>	no it wasnt
Apr 09 01:07:58 <thestringpuller>	i know it was a joke
Apr 09 01:07:59 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is extremely difficult to operate a business in because of its gold standard nature
Apr 09 01:08:05 <tiberiusiv>	meaning mistakes are punished severely
Apr 09 01:08:19 <tiberiusiv>	hence why so many default on loans, or blow up business
Apr 09 01:08:23 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: bitcoin is much more forgiving than fiat businesses
Apr 09 01:08:31 <thestringpuller>	the market is also more forgiving
Apr 09 01:08:51 <taub>	well, its also really easy to scam and steal
Apr 09 01:08:51 <tiberiusiv>	no it isnt
Apr 09 01:08:51 <dub>	thats because it allows children to start businesses too
Apr 09 01:08:51 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin rewards intelligent business
Apr 09 01:08:56 <tiberiusiv>	and idiots get severely trashed
Apr 09 01:08:59 <taub>	in the long run maybe
Apr 09 01:09:00 <tiberiusiv>	thats the opposite of fiat
Apr 09 01:09:07 <taub>	but idiot consumers are getting wiped too
Apr 09 01:09:10 <thestringpuller>	I love the cynicism/realism, but to be honest I've been able to hire an additional employee because of my bitcoin portfolio
Apr 09 01:09:26 <thestringpuller>	the money I make from that growth I'm reinvesting into coins
Apr 09 01:09:30 <thestringpuller>	i'm sure other people are doing the same
Apr 09 01:09:31 <tiberiusiv>	to do what?
Apr 09 01:09:38 <thestringpuller>	I run a consultancy
Apr 09 01:09:41 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin holders are seeing wealth transfered to them
Apr 09 01:09:50 <thestringpuller>	I needed an in-house designer, so I hired one
Apr 09 01:09:53 <tiberiusiv>	allowing them to expand and improve
Apr 09 01:10:00 <tiberiusiv>	yea you run a fiat business
Apr 09 01:10:00 <thestringpuller>	yes and reinvest
Apr 09 01:10:11 <thestringpuller>	i run a fiat business but I invest in bitcoin
Apr 09 01:10:16 <tiberiusiv>	btc capital gains allowed you to hire someone
Apr 09 01:10:20 <tiberiusiv>	that means nothing.
Apr 09 01:10:31 <tiberiusiv>	you could have spun the roulette wheel and won
Apr 09 01:10:40 <tiberiusiv>	external factor
Apr 09 01:10:43 <tiberiusiv>	its called luck
Apr 09 01:10:44 <thestringpuller>	i've also bought several things with bitcion
Apr 09 01:10:54 <thestringpuller>	from raspberry pi's to cookies
Apr 09 01:11:07 <dub>	yeah im struggling to see ow this relates to bitcoin at all, a rish relative could have died
Apr 09 01:11:13 <thestringpuller>	yea there is luck involved I happened to be a sorta early adopter
Apr 09 01:11:14 <tiberiusiv>	exactly
Apr 09 01:11:27 <thestringpuller>	however I reinvest into the community
Apr 09 01:11:31 <taub>	thing is, big business wont come into bitcoin
Apr 09 01:11:35 <thestringpuller>	I'm not just putting in 20 dollars
Apr 09 01:11:35 <tiberiusiv>	really hows that?
Apr 09 01:11:38 <taub>	as long as these exchanges are shit like this
Apr 09 01:11:41 <thestringpuller>	and then taking out 3000 later
Apr 09 01:11:44 <tiberiusiv>	"reinvesting" into the community
Apr 09 01:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-]
Apr 09 01:12:18 <tiberiusiv>	so are you providing capital for expansion for the 2 bitcoin business's that turn a profit?(drugs and speculation/gambling)
Apr 09 01:12:33 <thestringpuller>	yessir
Apr 09 01:12:36 <thestringpuller>	I'm a drug dealer
Apr 09 01:12:40 <taub>	;)
Apr 09 01:12:44 <thestringpuller>	I deal drugs to kids in high schools
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Apr 09 01:12:47 <taub>	I like the ancap nature of bitocin, but lets see what comes of it
Apr 09 01:12:51 <tiberiusiv>	id like to know what your definition of "reinvesting into the community"
Apr 09 01:12:53 <taub>	the price incrase isn't justified
Apr 09 01:12:55 <thestringpuller>	then I launder the money in bitcion
Apr 09 01:12:55 <tiberiusiv>	is
Apr 09 01:13:00 <taub>	i dont see the real economy behind it
Apr 09 01:13:07 <tiberiusiv>	buying stuff for bitcoin is not investing.
Apr 09 01:13:22 <thestringpuller>	taub: i just bought a nexus 7 so we'll see *shrug*
Apr 09 01:13:33 <tiberiusiv>	buying goods and services is not a reinvestment lol
Apr 09 01:13:39 <tiberiusiv>	you dont even know what you are talking about
Apr 09 01:13:50 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING
Apr 09 01:13:58 <thestringpuller>	what is reinvestment?
Apr 09 01:14:24 <tiberiusiv>	input capital that leads to increased productivity so the OUTPUT capital is greater
Apr 09 01:14:27 <tiberiusiv>	you are doing none of that
Apr 09 01:14:41 <tiberiusiv>	because theres no profitable BTC ventures outside of crime.
Apr 09 01:14:43 <tiberiusiv>	at the moment
Apr 09 01:15:03 <thestringpuller>	i run a fiat business and from fiat profits I buy btc, invest that into whatever is making money at the time and take the output stream and spend it
Apr 09 01:15:06 <tiberiusiv>	all BTC business that churn a profit involve wealth transfer NOT wealth creation
Apr 09 01:15:15 <dub>	<pipe2grep> <keebler> 16800 is my queue number, scary
Apr 09 01:15:30 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller: no you buy an income stream off a 3rd party.
Apr 09 01:15:38 <tiberiusiv>	you dont invest. you speculate
Apr 09 01:15:42 <thestringpuller>	yes but they are are investing it
Apr 09 01:15:48 <tiberiusiv>	no they arent
Apr 09 01:15:58 <tiberiusiv>	the only time they are is if you buy direct IPOs
Apr 09 01:16:08 <tiberiusiv>	you are buying shares on secondary markets
Apr 09 01:16:17 <taub>	it comes down to what you mean with "community"
Apr 09 01:16:20 <tiberiusiv>	that someone else is selling its 0 sum
Apr 09 01:16:28 <tiberiusiv>	theres no such thing as community lol
Apr 09 01:16:35 <dub>	yeah there is
Apr 09 01:16:46 <taub>	well he said reinvest into the community, but he means he speculates,invests into other bitcoin businesses
Apr 09 01:16:46 <tiberiusiv>	there are no BTC business's that create wealth only transfer it around
Apr 09 01:16:57 <taub>	so you dont see that as investment into the community
Apr 09 01:17:07 <dub>	its a mass of reatarded motherfuckers baying at the free money teat
Apr 09 01:17:15 <tiberiusiv>	ivnestment into community means you are providing new goods/services demanded by the marketplace
Apr 09 01:17:21 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: that's the point of btc atm to transfer wealth
Apr 09 01:17:25 <thestringpuller>	that's like the entire point of it
Apr 09 01:17:28 <tiberiusiv>	buying satoshidice shares from someone in here is 0 sum. it does nothing
Apr 09 01:17:33 <dub>	the only thing I would invest itn eh bitcoin community is bullets
Apr 09 01:17:33 <thestringpuller>	"I hate btc because it does what it's supposed to do"
Apr 09 01:17:52 <dub>	one each for 90% of them
Apr 09 01:17:55 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller: the wealth transfer is from fiat asset holders into BTC
Apr 09 01:18:19 <tiberiusiv>	however you shouldnt use incorrect terminology describing what you are doing
Apr 09 01:18:20 <thestringpuller>	no tiberiusiv BTC at it's fundamental leave stores value and transfers it across a network
Apr 09 01:18:41 <thestringpuller>	how that value is redeemed is moot the point I was trying to make is the point of bitcoin is to transfer value
Apr 09 01:18:49 <tiberiusiv>	none of your "investments" have increased the efficiency of anything
Apr 09 01:18:56 <tiberiusiv>	hence why they arent investments but mere speculations
Apr 09 01:19:00 <thestringpuller>	they aren't supposed to
Apr 09 01:19:02 <tiberiusiv>	if you "won" someone else lost
Apr 09 01:19:08 <tiberiusiv>	the community gained 0.
Apr 09 01:19:09 <thestringpuller>	wealth was transferred to me in the same way someone wins poker
Apr 09 01:19:18 <tiberiusiv>	if you improved efficiency then community won
Apr 09 01:19:22 <tiberiusiv>	then you can say you invested
Apr 09 01:19:34 <thestringpuller>	i'm taking that money investing it in business, but the moeny I get out of my business goes back into BTC
Apr 09 01:19:36 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller: yes and wealth shuffling is not investing.
Apr 09 01:19:48 <thestringpuller>	But at the end of the day I put more money into BTC than I take out
Apr 09 01:19:54 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller: the money you put into BTC means someone took that exact sum out.
Apr 09 01:19:54 <thestringpuller>	so your point is kinda moot
Apr 09 01:20:00 <tiberiusiv>	its *0* sum
Apr 09 01:20:10 <tiberiusiv>	if you boguth 1million BTC, someone else now has 1million
Apr 09 01:20:14 <tiberiusiv>	nothing happend.
Apr 09 01:20:25 <tiberiusiv>	it doesnt matter what you "put into" btc.
Apr 09 01:20:30 <tiberiusiv>	the outcome is always 0
Apr 09 01:20:30 <thestringpuller>	you could say the same thing for any currecny then...
Apr 09 01:20:35 <tiberiusiv>	of course.
Apr 09 01:20:41 <thestringpuller>	so your point is moot
Apr 09 01:20:44 <tiberiusiv>	thats the definitition of ZERO SUM.
Apr 09 01:20:59 <thestringpuller>	you're like complaining about the nature of economics, just to complain
Apr 09 01:21:01 <tiberiusiv>	hence why you buying btc does *0* for the community
Apr 09 01:21:12 <thestringpuller>	it creates liquidity...
Apr 09 01:21:18 <tiberiusiv>	if you want to do something for the "community"
Apr 09 01:21:29 <tiberiusiv>	you can invest into a product/service or improve an existing one
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Apr 09 01:21:37 <tiberiusiv>	which you do nothing of the sort
Apr 09 01:21:53 <thestringpuller>	you remind me of: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N_8_jUJKZQo/TtTxTqaRkWI/AAAAAAAAALY/_KiioH7edB4/s1600/stat+and+wald.jpg
Apr 09 01:21:57 <thestringpuller>	just in one person
Apr 09 01:22:03 <tiberiusiv>	so yes please use proper terminology
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Apr 09 01:22:25 <tiberiusiv>	input capital ->increased productivity -> higher output
Apr 09 01:22:29 <tiberiusiv>	is the definition of investment
Apr 09 01:22:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 804 @ 0.00069106 = 0.5556 BTC [+]
Apr 09 01:22:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.0006922 = 27.5496 BTC [+]
Apr 09 01:22:40 <tiberiusiv>	me and you trading BTC or stocks between ourselves is speculation.
Apr 09 01:23:01 <tiberiusiv>	no new wealth has been created by you buying or selling BTC
Apr 09 01:23:03 <thestringpuller>	it depends on what happens between trades...
Apr 09 01:23:09 <tiberiusiv>	no it doesnt.
Apr 09 01:23:11 <thestringpuller>	trading creates liquidity
Apr 09 01:23:15 <tiberiusiv>	if you win, i lose
Apr 09 01:23:23 <tiberiusiv>	net outcome is always 0
Apr 09 01:23:23 <thestringpuller>	no...
Apr 09 01:23:37 <tiberiusiv>	if you purchase equity from me and i build a business
Apr 09 01:23:37 <thestringpuller>	that's like someone buying a house and saying the seller or buyer must lose
Apr 09 01:23:42 <thestringpuller>	someone needs a house someone needs cash
Apr 09 01:23:46 <tiberiusiv>	the total OUTPUT(wealth) has increased
Apr 09 01:23:55 <thestringpuller>	you must love arguing
Apr 09 01:24:00 <tiberiusiv>	now be quiet.
Apr 09 01:24:02 <thestringpuller>	you must be a criminal lawyer
Apr 09 01:24:24 <tiberiusiv>	successful investments increase net total wealth in the "community"
Apr 09 01:24:30 <tiberiusiv>	meaning the community is better off.
Apr 09 01:25:12 <tiberiusiv>	in bitcoinland the only successful business are those that involve wealth transfering(sdice,exchanges) OR illegal activities(SR)
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Apr 09 01:25:52 <thestringpuller>	you completely ignored, mining (confirmation of transactions)
Apr 09 01:26:00 <tiberiusiv>	sure and that
Apr 09 01:26:01 <thestringpuller>	that in itself is a business
Apr 09 01:26:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+]
Apr 09 01:26:05 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 09 01:26:41 <thestringpuller>	and the bitcoin stores which will likely hit millions in revenue in their first year
Apr 09 01:26:53 <tiberiusiv>	those are not really bitcoin stores
Apr 09 01:26:58 <tiberiusiv>	they instantly convert to fiat
Apr 09 01:27:29 <tiberiusiv>	why would anyone want to buy bitcoin just to shop on stores vs fiat?
Apr 09 01:27:37 <thestringpuller>	because it's cheaper by 8%
Apr 09 01:27:43 <tiberiusiv>	no it isnt
Apr 09 01:27:47 <thestringpuller>	yea it is
Apr 09 01:27:50 <tiberiusiv>	after exchanging + NO REFUND risk
Apr 09 01:27:53 <tiberiusiv>	its way more expensive
Apr 09 01:28:06 <bgupta>	;;last regex BBET
Apr 09 01:28:07 <gribble>	(last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
Apr 09 01:28:10 <tiberiusiv>	and why would you want to get rid of bitcoin BEFORE fiat?
Apr 09 01:28:16 <bgupta>	;;last --regex BBET
Apr 09 01:28:17 <gribble>	Error: 'BBET' is not a valid regular expression.
Apr 09 01:28:29 <bgupta>	soemone help me out here
Apr 09 01:28:31 <swhitt>	/BBET/i
Apr 09 01:28:47 <swhitt>	;;last --regex /BBET/i
Apr 09 01:28:47 <gribble>	[23:28:29] <swhitt> /BBET/i
Apr 09 01:28:51 <swhitt>	WHOOPS
Apr 09 01:28:51 <thestringpuller>	you have no idea, how payment processors work do you?
Apr 09 01:28:52 <swhitt>	:D
Apr 09 01:28:56 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller: you are clueless.
Apr 09 01:29:05 <tiberiusiv>	the bitcoinstore for example currently can offer those prices because they make 0 profit
Apr 09 01:29:14 <tiberiusiv>	buying BTC is expensive
Apr 09 01:29:23 <tiberiusiv>	and they instantly exchange back into dollars losing 1%
Apr 09 01:29:25 <thestringpuller>	But you're speculating on their business model
Apr 09 01:29:31 <tiberiusiv>	so total exchange losses can add up to 4-5% off the bat
Apr 09 01:29:38 <tiberiusiv>	+ i get no refunds if something goes wrong.
Apr 09 01:29:49 <tiberiusiv>	because if i pay 100btc, but the price doubles in 3 weeks
Apr 09 01:29:55 <tiberiusiv>	ill only get back 50BTC in a refund
Apr 09 01:30:00 <tiberiusiv>	so i LOSE.
Apr 09 01:30:06 <bgupta>	;;last --regex /MPEX] [S.BBET]/i
Apr 09 01:30:07 <gribble>	Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
Apr 09 01:30:21 <tiberiusiv>	buying products with bitcoin only makes sense if i cant obtain them with fiat
Apr 09 01:30:23 <tiberiusiv>	like drugs
Apr 09 01:30:23 <swhitt>	gotta work on your regex literals :)
Apr 09 01:30:33 <tiberiusiv>	or gambling products
Apr 09 01:30:40 <thestringpuller>	i used to think the same thing for a long time.
Apr 09 01:30:42 <tiberiusiv>	OR if i have a bitcoin derived income
Apr 09 01:30:47 <thestringpuller>	But then I started buying stuff with coins
Apr 09 01:30:50 <tiberiusiv>	which is like 1% at max of the BTC crowd
Apr 09 01:30:53 <ThickAsThieves>	!ticker m s.bbet
Apr 09 01:30:54 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00079521 / 0.00082831 / 0.00085021 (2492 shares, 2.06 BTC), 7D: 0.0007531 / 0.00082771 / 0.00085021 (2512 shares, 2.08 BTC), 30D: 0.00050015 / 0.00189327 / 0.00201401 (79740 shares, 150.97 BTC)
Apr 09 01:30:56 <thestringpuller>	and realized how much of a scam CC processing is
Apr 09 01:31:12 <thestringpuller>	because you know I work for the 2nd biggest credit card processor in the world
Apr 09 01:31:16 <tiberiusiv>	CC processing is still cheaper then bitcoin exchanging at the moment
Apr 09 01:31:20 <ThickAsThieves>	!ticker m s.bbet --last
Apr 09 01:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00079521 / 0.00082831 / 0.00085021 (2492 shares, 2.06 BTC), 7D: 0.0007531 / 0.00082771 / 0.00085021 (2512 shares, 2.08 BTC), 30D: 0.00050015 / 0.00189327 / 0.00201401 (79740 shares, 150.97 BTC)
Apr 09 01:31:21 <thestringpuller>	No it's not
Apr 09 01:31:24 <thestringpuller>	NOT AT ALL
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Apr 09 01:31:30 <tiberiusiv>	sure it is
Apr 09 01:31:33 <ThickAsThieves>	!ticker m --last s.bbet
Apr 09 01:31:34 <thestringpuller>	NO it's not
Apr 09 01:31:35 <assbot>	Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
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Apr 09 01:31:45 <ThickAsThieves>	!ticker--last m s.bbet
Apr 09 01:31:46 <tiberiusiv>	all bitcoin vendors still exchange into fiat at point of sale
Apr 09 01:31:50 <tiberiusiv>	they are still "processing"
Apr 09 01:31:52 <ThickAsThieves>	!ticker --last m s.bbet
Apr 09 01:31:53 <assbot>	Some are born to endless night.
Apr 09 01:31:55 <tiberiusiv>	nobody is holding BTC balances outright
Apr 09 01:31:59 <bgupta>	!last m s.bbet
Apr 09 01:32:00 <assbot>	Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.00079521 BTC [-]
Apr 09 01:32:07 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 09 01:32:35 <thestringpuller>	dude for one thing, credit card processing is segmented
Apr 09 01:32:46 <thestringpuller>	the acquirer takes all the risk
Apr 09 01:32:51 <tiberiusiv>	yea i know
Apr 09 01:32:57 <tiberiusiv>	well in card not present transactions
Apr 09 01:33:03 <thestringpuller>	this in itself rases rates
Apr 09 01:33:04 <tiberiusiv>	in bitcoin the customer takes all the risk
Apr 09 01:33:10 <tiberiusiv>	including none refund
Apr 09 01:33:26 <thestringpuller>	that's why things are in escrow in BTC world just like in a bazaar
Apr 09 01:33:34 <thestringpuller>	even if the escrow is done in house
Apr 09 01:33:36 <tiberiusiv>	which adds costs
Apr 09 01:33:43 <thestringpuller>	not as much as cc costs
Apr 09 01:33:51 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin retail makes sense if you are serving bitcoin income crowd
Apr 09 01:33:59 <tiberiusiv>	but how many are deriving a bitcoin income? lets see not even 1%
Apr 09 01:34:00 <thestringpuller>	due to the underwriting the risks of pure fraud
Apr 09 01:34:08 <thestringpuller>	you can't defraud someone with btc like with a CC
Apr 09 01:34:17 <tiberiusiv>	you can defraud them even worse
Apr 09 01:34:48 <tiberiusiv>	if you add up per capita BTC losses
Apr 09 01:34:50 <tiberiusiv>	they are high
Apr 09 01:34:57 <tiberiusiv>	from vendors reneging and fucking over customers
Apr 09 01:35:11 <tiberiusiv>	visa losses relative to volume are nothing
Apr 09 01:35:24 <tiberiusiv>	like 1/100th of a %
Apr 09 01:35:29 <thestringpuller>	in CC world you can, steal card numbers (ie identity theft), you can charge-back and keep the service/good, (ie stealing), which the acquirer pays out of pocket
Apr 09 01:35:34 <thestringpuller>	visa doesn't process
Apr 09 01:35:36 <thestringpuller>	visa is a network
Apr 09 01:35:40 <tiberiusiv>	yea i know
Apr 09 01:35:49 <thestringpuller>	they just happen to see all transactions made so they can do an upfront fraud assessment
Apr 09 01:35:50 <tiberiusiv>	the total fraud
Apr 09 01:35:53 <tiberiusiv>	VS volume
Apr 09 01:35:55 <tiberiusiv>	is nothing
Apr 09 01:35:58 <thestringpuller>	no its not
Apr 09 01:36:04 <thestringpuller>	fraud accouns for some 60 billion dollar
Apr 09 01:36:12 <tiberiusiv>	of what 1 trillion transactions?
Apr 09 01:36:14 <thestringpuller>	just yesterday a glitch in the system
Apr 09 01:36:25 <thestringpuller>	cost the company 200k
Apr 09 01:36:32 <tiberiusiv>	so?
Apr 09 01:36:38 <thestringpuller>	that happens quite often
Apr 09 01:36:43 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin vendors ahve ripped off customers
Apr 09 01:36:47 <tiberiusiv>	every week.
Apr 09 01:36:51 <thestringpuller>	in btc world not so much except from ineptitude
Apr 09 01:36:57 <thestringpuller>	yea bitcoin scammers
Apr 09 01:37:09 <tiberiusiv>	no "legit" business's
Apr 09 01:37:09 <thestringpuller>	but I have never gotten ripped off spending coins
Apr 09 01:37:19 <thestringpuller>	any business that rips off a customer is not legit
Apr 09 01:37:33 <thestringpuller>	and you're making claims without references
Apr 09 01:37:34 <tiberiusiv>	for example in canada
Apr 09 01:37:42 <tiberiusiv>	man just google it
Apr 09 01:37:46 <tiberiusiv>	total fraud losses are miniscule
Apr 09 01:37:52 <tiberiusiv>	compared to transaction volume
Apr 09 01:38:06 <tiberiusiv>	canada for example does 200billion a year in card volume
Apr 09 01:38:10 <tiberiusiv>	and 400 million is fraud
Apr 09 01:38:28 <thestringpuller>	yea that's below avg, since the total fraud is much higher
Apr 09 01:38:30 <tiberiusiv>	0.2%
Apr 09 01:38:40 <thestringpuller>	it's in some 16 billion total for just TS2 alone
Apr 09 01:38:42 <tiberiusiv>	99.8% of volume is legit
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Apr 09 01:38:49 <thestringpuller>	which is covered by insurance
Apr 09 01:39:04 <thestringpuller>	and passed onto the merchants who pass that to the customers
Apr 09 01:39:14 <tiberiusiv>	As a result, global card fraud worldwide as a percentage of total volume has actually decreased. In 2010, total fraud losses equaled 4.46¢ per $100 in total volume of purchases and cash, down from 4.71¢ per $100 in 2009. And, this amount has been steadily declining over a decade.
Apr 09 01:39:29 <tiberiusiv>	4.5 cents per 100 dollars
Apr 09 01:39:51 <tiberiusiv>	0.05% worldwide rate
Apr 09 01:40:00 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin fraud per transactions
Apr 09 01:40:04 <tiberiusiv>	is probably 100 times that number
Apr 09 01:40:32 <thestringpuller>	dude total credit card fraud world wide with just identity theft is some 5.5 billion
Apr 09 01:40:39 <tiberiusiv>	yea and?
Apr 09 01:40:43 <tiberiusiv>	thats NOTHING.
Apr 09 01:40:54 <tiberiusiv>	compare it to TOTAL CC volume occuring
Apr 09 01:41:03 <ezdiy>	well
Apr 09 01:41:09 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin vendor fraud
Apr 09 01:41:11 <tiberiusiv>	is HIGH.
Apr 09 01:41:12 <ezdiy>	it is something compared to total volume
Apr 09 01:41:18 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin anything fraud is high
Apr 09 01:41:20 <ezdiy>	tiberiusiv: customer fraud too :(
Apr 09 01:41:24 <tiberiusiv>	you ave like a 1 to 5 chance of being defrauded
Apr 09 01:41:28 <tiberiusiv>	in bitcoin
Apr 09 01:41:29 <ezdiy>	it just depends who delivers first
Apr 09 01:41:32 <tiberiusiv>	if not 2 out of 5
Apr 09 01:41:44 <tiberiusiv>	becuase even if a vendor "refunds" you
Apr 09 01:41:49 <tiberiusiv>	they never refund the bitcoin ammount you sent
Apr 09 01:41:52 <tiberiusiv>	but a fraction of it
Apr 09 01:41:59 <tiberiusiv>	like BASIC.
Apr 09 01:42:02 <bgupta>	thestringpuller: Please do everyone a favor and type "/ignore tiberiusiv" or take it to PM?
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Apr 09 01:42:05 <tiberiusiv>	customers lost 95%
Apr 09 01:42:15 <ezdiy>	yeah
Apr 09 01:42:20 <ezdiy>	vendors should clearly state
Apr 09 01:42:25 <ezdiy>	whether they operate in dollars, or bitcoins
Apr 09 01:42:33 <tiberiusiv>	i know
Apr 09 01:42:45 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoinstore is a dollar store
Apr 09 01:42:50 <ezdiy>	and not choose later depending if market is bull or not
Apr 09 01:42:52 <tiberiusiv>	they need to get off their BS.
Apr 09 01:42:59 <ezdiy>	if btc would be worth $5 now
Apr 09 01:43:02 <ezdiy>	they'd refund $5 :)
Apr 09 01:43:08 <tiberiusiv>	yes exactly
Apr 09 01:43:24 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoinstore uses bitpay right?
Apr 09 01:43:44 <tiberiusiv>	their prices are bitcoin quoted but final settlement is in US dollars.
Apr 09 01:44:04 <ezdiy>	memorydealers are p legit though
Apr 09 01:44:07 <tiberiusiv>	should be stated loud and clear for customers
Apr 09 01:44:11 <ezdiy>	bitpay, not quite sure
Apr 09 01:44:16 <tiberiusiv>	they wont refund you BTC balances ezdiy
Apr 09 01:44:23 <ezdiy>	lol
Apr 09 01:44:24 <thestringpuller>	as fun as it is arguing with you, it's providing 0 value to my life, perhaps someone else can amuse you
Apr 09 01:44:25 <ezdiy>	they wont?
Apr 09 01:44:33 <tiberiusiv>	ezidy: how would they?
Apr 09 01:44:42 <tiberiusiv>	all their transactions settle in dollars
Apr 09 01:44:44 <ezdiy>	tiberiusiv: keep a small balance around
Apr 09 01:44:48 <ezdiy>	to hedge for refunds
Apr 09 01:44:51 <tiberiusiv>	if BTC price is up 5 fold from date of transactions
Apr 09 01:44:56 <tiberiusiv>	theyd take massive loss
Apr 09 01:45:03 <ezdiy>	tiberiusiv: i'm p sure bitcoins they get are not sold instantly
Apr 09 01:45:09 <tiberiusiv>	yes they are
Apr 09 01:45:20 <tiberiusiv>	all the vendors operate like that
Apr 09 01:45:31 <tiberiusiv>	they use bitpay to instantly sell the coins into dollars
Apr 09 01:45:44 <ezdiy>	sure
Apr 09 01:45:46 <ezdiy>	i meant bitpay
Apr 09 01:45:49 <ezdiy>	bitpay keeps the coins
Apr 09 01:45:53 <ezdiy>	and dollars are paid on credit
Apr 09 01:45:54 <tiberiusiv>	nope
Apr 09 01:46:00 <tiberiusiv>	they are just connected to major exchanges
Apr 09 01:46:22 <tiberiusiv>	bitpay collects 0.99% for performing an exchange for you
Apr 09 01:46:30 <tiberiusiv>	they dont store neither dollar nor btc
Apr 09 01:46:42 <tiberiusiv>	they connect to mtgox directly
Apr 09 01:47:00 <dub>	since when?
Apr 09 01:47:07 <tiberiusiv>	since forever lol
Apr 09 01:47:09 <ezdiy>	tiberiusiv: that'd be utterly stupid
Apr 09 01:47:12 <tiberiusiv>	how did you think it functioned
Apr 09 01:47:19 <dub>	they do it manually
Apr 09 01:47:20 <ezdiy>	they must process chargebacks in btc
Apr 09 01:47:22 <tiberiusiv>	BITPAY directly connects to the most liquid exchanges
Apr 09 01:47:26 <ezdiy>	otherwise competition comes along
Apr 09 01:47:29 <ezdiy>	which will do exactly that
Apr 09 01:47:36 <tiberiusiv>	they do not do chargebacks in btc.
Apr 09 01:47:46 <dub>	they had problems moving all the the bfl preorder coin and had to go out to otc
Apr 09 01:47:53 <ThickAsThieves>	you guys are littering this poor channel with tiberius conversation
Apr 09 01:47:57 <tiberiusiv>	dub yes
Apr 09 01:48:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.72 = 3.44 BTC [-]
Apr 09 01:48:04 <tiberiusiv>	locating liquidity
Apr 09 01:48:07 <ezdiy>	ThickAsThieves: indeed, unrelated to assets
Apr 09 01:48:16 <ezdiy>	tiberiusiv: go whine to -otc :)
Apr 09 01:48:27 <tiberiusiv>	im not whining
Apr 09 01:48:41 <ThickAsThieves>	this is what happens when you feed mogwai after midnight
Apr 09 01:48:41 <tiberiusiv>	pointing out obvious facts, BTC retailers are misleading in their retarded statements.
Apr 09 01:48:49 <tiberiusiv>	they should make it CLEAR they settle in DOLLARS
Apr 09 01:48:52 <tiberiusiv>	not bitcoins
Apr 09 01:48:52 <mod6>	lol
Apr 09 01:49:00 <ezdiy>	tiberiusiv: but
Apr 09 01:49:01 <ezdiy>	but
Apr 09 01:49:07 <bgupta>	ezdiy: Same request: Please do everyone a favor and type "/ignore tiberiusiv" or take it to PM? (People who feed troll after being asked to stop get put on my ignore list)
Apr 09 01:49:08 <ezdiy>	its NEW PARADIGM!!!!!111111
Apr 09 01:49:18 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 09 01:49:36 <guruvan>	++ bgupta
Apr 09 01:49:56 <dub>	in other sillyness, people are bidding .0001 for bytecoins
Apr 09 01:50:01 <guruvan>	I was wondering wtf was everyone talking about, and then I realized - I did that the first time I saw that dude
Apr 09 01:50:07 <ezdiy>	dub: bytecoins are legit :)
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Apr 09 01:53:50 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	Hello everyone
Apr 09 01:54:56 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	Where if anywhere can I issue BTC-denominated stock-type things without having to put in a bunch of money for a "listing fee"?
Apr 09 01:55:19 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	I promise not to scam everyone out of their bitcoins with a fake stock.
Apr 09 01:56:01 <bgupta>	sjnhfjhsgbd: Umm.. nowhere. well if you consider 5 btc a bunch of money.
Apr 09 01:56:15 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	I want to sell a tiny stock
Apr 09 01:56:24 <bgupta>	why bother?
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Apr 09 01:57:23 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	Like, raise $300 worth of BTC, contract an artist and a programmer from /r/Jobs4Bitcoins, and sell a tiny video game for tiny amounts
Apr 09 01:57:51 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	Or maybe it's a flash game and goes on addictinggames.com and uses whatever their revenue model is.
Apr 09 01:58:11 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	But it's a terrible business plan if I can't sell a tiny stock.
Apr 09 01:58:48 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	Does the 5 BTC listing fee buy me any sort of asurance that the whole exchange won't get shuttered tomorrow by the FTC?
Apr 09 01:59:09 <dub>	listen to yourself
Apr 09 01:59:30 <dub>	you want people to invest in someone that doesnt have $300 of his own
Apr 09 02:01:03 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	I have my own money, but I don't want to risk it. I want to risk other peoples' money for personal gain. Capitalism.
Apr 09 02:01:26 <bgupta>	seriously just use kickstarter… no one will buy your stock...
Apr 09 02:01:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.794 = 2.382 BTC [+]
Apr 09 02:02:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.794 BTC [+]
Apr 09 02:02:37 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	I'd really rather do one of the kickstarter clones, but I can't find one that looks alive enough to actually fund a project, and they (I guess for legal reasons) don't involve distribution of proceeds.
Apr 09 02:03:10 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	That's the good thing about a tiny stock. Only a few people have to invest in it.
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Apr 09 02:03:46 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	People who think selling software to anarcholibertarians is a good business model.
Apr 09 02:03:59 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	*anarcholibertarian programmers
Apr 09 02:04:08 <ezdiy>	kickstarter clone is minimal investment
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Apr 09 02:04:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00069352 = 3.7797 BTC [+]
Apr 09 02:04:14 <ezdiy>	the most expensive at the moment is pr
Apr 09 02:05:49 <bgupta>	listen you not willing to risk $300, doesn't do much to install confidence in your venture. If you were willing to invest $10k but needed say $100k+ and the business model made sense.. then maybe you have something to talk about. BTW - I'm really glad the 5btc listing fee is scaring you off.
Apr 09 02:05:54 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	pr?
Apr 09 02:06:41 <bgupta>	http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pr&l=1
Apr 09 02:07:18 <mod6>	haha
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Apr 09 02:08:30 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	The most expensive at the moment is public relations?
Apr 09 02:08:32 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_relations
Apr 09 02:09:22 <ezdiy>	sjnhfjhsgbd: basically, spam.
Apr 09 02:09:32 <ezdiy>	ie convincing people to actually use your kickstarter clone
Apr 09 02:09:46 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	Oooh ok I get it.
Apr 09 02:10:03 <sjnhfjhsgbd>	It';s easy to start a kickstarter clone, and public relations is the most expensive thing you have to do.
Apr 09 02:10:20 <ezdiy>	:)
Apr 09 02:10:53 <ezdiy>	i think things like mpex are more appropiate for bitcoin startups anyway
Apr 09 02:10:55 <bgupta>	BTW - are there any other threads talking about bbet? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141458.0
Apr 09 02:11:03 <bgupta>	looking for more info on their plans
Apr 09 02:11:09 <ezdiy>	bitcoin users are greedy, "die hippy" right-wing libertians
Apr 09 02:11:37 <ezdiy>	thus its logical they want to be paid dividents, not the actual product :)
Apr 09 02:13:11 <bgupta>	ezdiy: Not all are right-wing, "die hippy" libertarians.. Guessing those that use bitcoin to get their weed on SR aren't neccerily "die hippy" libertarians, but more of the "get your hands of my stash" libretarians. ;)
Apr 09 02:13:28 <bgupta>	sorry for the typos
Apr 09 02:14:06 <ezdiy>	hehe
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Apr 09 02:15:26 <bgupta>	kakobrekla: Hey.. was wondering if you guys plan to share your plans for bbet development? IE: I am thinking of investing, but want to know how much of your time is spent opperating site, vs improving site, what plans you have etc..
Apr 09 02:15:58 <bgupta>	right now all that is being shard is fiscal results..
Apr 09 02:16:12 <bgupta>	no real clear vision for the future.
Apr 09 02:16:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00069352 = 5.2708 BTC [+]
Apr 09 02:16:38 <ezdiy>	bgupta: isnt there lots of betting competitors already?
Apr 09 02:16:55 <ezdiy>	all what can such site offer is low fees and fast bet resolution :(
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Apr 09 02:18:17 <guruvan>	k - I'll byte - wtf is a bytecoin
Apr 09 02:18:51 <bgupta>	guruvan: google
Apr 09 02:19:03 <guruvan>	;;google bytecoin
Apr 09 02:19:04 <gribble>	51% attack against Bytecoin imminent?: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167954.0>; LucasJones/bytecoin · GitHub: <https://github.com/LucasJones/bytecoin>; ByteCoin · GitHub: <https://github.com/ByteCoin>
Apr 09 02:19:05 <bgupta>	ezdiy: well I could see it being more categorized like craig's list.. IE: search is ok for now and the metacategories they have could be more detailed.
Apr 09 02:19:42 <guruvan>	I guess I really wonder more, /why/ is a bytecoin....I don't think teh google knows that
Apr 09 02:19:55 <bgupta>	and browsing could be more informative.. IE: Sports -> NFL (5), Finance -> bitcoin (10), etc
Apr 09 02:20:01 <ezdiy>	bgupta: yeah, the design could be certainly improved
Apr 09 02:20:11 <ezdiy>	bgupta: however in terms of substance, therse not much one can do :(
Apr 09 02:20:18 <ezdiy>	the concept is just too simple to expand upon
Apr 09 02:21:35 <bgupta>	all else being equal, awesome design + pr wins in a competive market.
Apr 09 02:21:55 <ezdiy>	indeed
Apr 09 02:22:40 <bgupta>	anyone seen this?
Apr 09 02:22:42 <bgupta>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18e38b/bitcoin_casino_built_100_in_minecraft_video/
Apr 09 02:23:26 <bgupta>	I love crazy ideas like this.
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Apr 09 02:23:36 <bgupta>	I would invest..
Apr 09 02:23:53 <bgupta>	(Not much, but definately some angel type funds.)
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Apr 09 02:28:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00069444 = 3.8889 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 02:33:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.794 BTC [+]
Apr 09 02:35:25 <bgupta>	kakobrekla: Any thought to making bbet more prominent on something like this https://www.google.com/search?q=bitcoin+betting&aq=f&oq=bitcoin+betting&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3j62l2.3264j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Apr 09 02:37:53 <bgupta>	any thoughts on icbit?
Apr 09 02:38:03 <bgupta>	(exchange)
Apr 09 02:42:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.794 BTC [+]
Apr 09 02:42:46 <bgupta>	My thought is to really deal in currency futures you need to be an exhnge that supports multicurrency postions to facilitate settlement.. IE: If I enter a futures contract to exchange USD for bitcoin, I should be able to do so on settlement.
Apr 09 02:43:39 <mod6>	its a bucket-shop like bitcoinica was
Apr 09 02:44:10 <mod6>	Also trader is allowed to take any position he likes - long or short, without the need to own the corresponding currency (e.g. USD to go long in BTC, and BTC to sell for going short in BTC).
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Apr 09 02:44:20 <mod6>	https://icbit.se/futures
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Apr 09 02:45:11 <bgupta>	well in real futures you don't have to own the assets either..
Apr 09 02:45:24 <bgupta>	you do upon settlement though
Apr 09 02:45:30 <bgupta>	there is a margin requirement though
Apr 09 02:46:01 <bgupta>	cash 10% of the "value" of your contracts.
Apr 09 02:46:13 <bgupta>	20% if your margin is equity
Apr 09 02:47:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [-]
Apr 09 02:47:15 <bgupta>	futures are a much better way to get leverage if you have a lot of money
Apr 09 02:47:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010249 BTC [+]
Apr 09 02:47:29 <bgupta>	lower cost than options that is.
Apr 09 02:47:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.78 = 1.56 BTC [-]
Apr 09 02:48:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.777 = 5.439 BTC [-]
Apr 09 02:48:39 <bgupta>	nice thing about futures contracts in currency, is delivery is electronic not physical
Apr 09 02:48:58 <bgupta>	bitcoin is really really suited for this
Apr 09 02:49:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7943 BTC [+]
Apr 09 02:49:21 <guruvan>	bgupta:  I make decent money trading there, but it's hard to deal with day to day anomalies like multiple clearings that seem pretty arbitrary
Apr 09 02:49:51 <bgupta>	"clearings" like margin calls or something?
Apr 09 02:49:59 <bgupta>	or order book matching?
Apr 09 02:50:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00996 BTC [-]
Apr 09 02:50:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009953 BTC [-]
Apr 09 02:50:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 24 @ 0.009951 = 0.2388 BTC [-]
Apr 09 02:51:34 <guruvan>	no, the positions are all cleared to the days base price once (or apparently more) per day....at 20:00 everyone's position is cleared to the same execution price and funds are added or subtracted from your balance to reflect profit or loss for the dya
Apr 09 02:52:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01999 BTC [+]
Apr 09 02:53:05 <guruvan>	of course, at that time, if your account equity is too low, a margin call may happen
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Apr 09 02:54:51 <bgupta>	guruvan, gotcha
Apr 09 02:55:05 <bgupta>	they don't use vwap?
Apr 09 02:55:19 <bgupta>	seems very straighforward.
Apr 09 02:56:14 <guruvan>	no clearing price is determined by actual futures trading - trading range is w/e 10% above or below the clearing price for the day
Apr 09 02:56:32 <bgupta>	ok...
Apr 09 02:57:14 <bgupta>	so I guess one question.. if one has btc, can one use it as margin for a long usd/btc contract?
Apr 09 02:57:19 <guruvan>	it's all straightforward if there's only one clearing - at 20:00 - when there's random clearings, risk can be unexpectedly increased
Apr 09 02:57:22 <bgupta>	or do you need usd for margin?
Apr 09 02:57:39 <guruvan>	all margin is BTC
Apr 09 02:57:42 <bgupta>	ok..
Apr 09 02:57:52 <guruvan>	all contracts are settled in btc
Apr 09 02:57:54 <bgupta>	having difficulty finding spreads..
Apr 09 02:58:01 <guruvan>	gotta log in
Apr 09 02:58:03 <bgupta>	are they wide?
Apr 09 02:58:10 <jurov>	Bitfunder/weexchange does options with real usd settlement.
Apr 09 02:58:15 <bgupta>	that's my challenge with mpex options
Apr 09 02:58:23 <jurov>	Pity Ukto isn't advertising them more
Apr 09 02:58:44 <bgupta>	jurov, I am ok using btc as margin
Apr 09 02:58:50 <guruvan>	I haven't tried their options yet - was not enough volume when I looked first
Apr 09 02:59:08 <Ukto>	jurov: I am actually going to be turning off fiat options on weex for a bit
Apr 09 02:59:12 <Ukto>	to cleanup the code
Apr 09 02:59:14 <bgupta>	yeah… ofr stock options, not enough volume and people want to much
Apr 09 02:59:18 <Ukto>	and change it a bit internally
Apr 09 02:59:29 <Ukto>	due to the big changes coming up for weex
Apr 09 02:59:42 <guruvan>	oh big changes?
Apr 09 02:59:43 <bgupta>	Problem also with fiat options on weex is the whole registration stuff..
Apr 09 02:59:53 <bgupta>	Fincen requirements and what not
Apr 09 03:00:13 <bgupta>	(Not saying they have any, but it concerns me nontheless)
Apr 09 03:00:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00070804 = 17.2054 BTC [+]
Apr 09 03:00:42 <guruvan>	Ukto:  do I need AML docs if I never deposit or withdraw in fiat?
Apr 09 03:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00070385 = 7.3904 BTC [-]
Apr 09 03:00:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7046 @ 0.00069352 = 4.8865 BTC [-]
Apr 09 03:00:52 <TradeFortress>	nope guruvan
Apr 09 03:00:54 <bgupta>	gurovan: how liquid are the futures?
Apr 09 03:01:26 <guruvan>	bgupta: at icbit - getting pretty liquid - there's some pretty good sized trades there
Apr 09 03:01:27 <Ukto>	guruvan: nope
Apr 09 03:01:36 <Ukto>	aml docs are only needed for banking
Apr 09 03:01:37 <guruvan>	sweet ukto TradeFortress
Apr 09 03:01:47 <guruvan>	bitcoin is my bank
Apr 09 03:01:58 <Ukto>	i suspect a lot more ppl will be signing up for weex next month or so
Apr 09 03:02:00 <bgupta>	sounds like it's worht checking out
Apr 09 03:02:03 <Ukto>	depending on when the new stuffs done :)
Apr 09 03:02:04 <guruvan>	but I like to play with those fiat monies
Apr 09 03:02:22 <guruvan>	whats teh new stuffs????? ;D
Apr 09 03:02:50 <bgupta>	Ukto: You building to take on Mtgox ;) (If so make sure you can scale)
Apr 09 03:03:11 <Ukto>	bgupta: I might. ;)
Apr 09 03:03:19 <Ukto>	or something more.. sinister. ;)
Apr 09 03:03:41 *	Ukto quickly moves into an evil world domination pose. ;)
Apr 09 03:04:12 <ezdiy>	hmm
Apr 09 03:04:20 <bgupta>	well relistically a currency exchange that can handle more volume than mtgox would be useful… as would a mtgox like exchange that facilitates margin, and shorting..
Apr 09 03:04:22 <ezdiy>	dr. evil would be cool exchange mascot actually
Apr 09 03:04:30 <ezdiy>	"how about...." ONE MILLION DOLLARS
Apr 09 03:04:32 *	guruvan hires Mini Me to pose next to Ukto with some Sharks
Apr 09 03:04:38 <guruvan>	with Laaaasers
Apr 09 03:04:48 <Ukto>	guruvan: ... interesting idea.
Apr 09 03:04:56 *	Ukto makes notes for the new site design.
Apr 09 03:04:56 <Ukto>	:P
Apr 09 03:05:06 <guruvan>	anytime you can hire mini me it's a total win
Apr 09 03:05:23 <bgupta>	Ukto: You should think about moving soon..
Apr 09 03:05:36 <guruvan>	um prolly ;)
Apr 09 03:05:43 <Ukto>	moving?
Apr 09 03:05:51 <guruvan>	to Mexico!
Apr 09 03:05:55 <Ukto>	PFTT
Apr 09 03:05:57 <ezdiy>	ugh
Apr 09 03:05:59 <guruvan>	everything's legal in Mexico!
Apr 09 03:05:59 <Ukto>	I'm good. thanks. :P
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Apr 09 03:06:13 <ezdiy>	Ukto: you're http://weexchange.co/ operator?
Apr 09 03:06:13 <Ukto>	guruvan: tell that to the demonoid guy :P
Apr 09 03:06:18 <Ukto>	ezdiy: yessir
Apr 09 03:06:27 <bgupta>	and pf, no?
Apr 09 03:06:27 <ezdiy>	that design is um ...
Apr 09 03:06:32 <bgupta>	er bf
Apr 09 03:06:34 <Ukto>	crap
Apr 09 03:06:34 <guruvan>	orly - what happened to him?
Apr 09 03:06:35 <ezdiy>	Ukto: you totally need drevils help :)
Apr 09 03:06:37 <Ukto>	total utter crap
Apr 09 03:06:53 <Ukto>	which is why I am working on the redesign
Apr 09 03:06:54 <ezdiy>	Ukto: well, i applaud you for not using bootstrap
Apr 09 03:07:05 <Ukto>	then you will stop clapping quickly :P
Apr 09 03:07:21 <guruvan>	lol
Apr 09 03:07:31 <TradeFortress>	LOL
Apr 09 03:07:36 <TradeFortress>	ezdiy, look at all his other sites
Apr 09 03:07:41 <TradeFortress>	bitfunder.. hashpower, etc
Apr 09 03:07:49 <TradeFortress>	Bootstrap is awesome.
Apr 09 03:07:53 <ezdiy>	hahaha
Apr 09 03:07:55 <ezdiy>	TradeFortress: it is
Apr 09 03:07:56 <Ukto>	bootstrap has allowed me to spend 1/10th the time handling page design,etc, and focus more on actual code
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Apr 09 03:07:59 <ezdiy>	if you bother to change the color scheme
Apr 09 03:08:03 <ezdiy>	which he did
Apr 09 03:08:04 <ezdiy>	:)
Apr 09 03:08:05 <TradeFortress>	lol
Apr 09 03:08:09 <Ukto>	yeah
Apr 09 03:08:16 <Ukto>	the new weex site is tasteful I think
Apr 09 03:08:25 <Ukto>	its not overdone. obviously bootstrap. but whats not anymore
Apr 09 03:08:32 *	guruvan has a similar beef about opencart
Apr 09 03:08:45 <bgupta>	twitter bootstrap rocks
Apr 09 03:08:46 <guruvan>	ffs people at least change the default colors
Apr 09 03:08:56 <guruvan>	so does opencart
Apr 09 03:09:06 <guruvan>	tis teh shiz
Apr 09 03:09:15 <bgupta>	opencart, need to check it out
Apr 09 03:09:24 <TradeFortress>	opencart is a shooping cart software isn't it
Apr 09 03:09:32 <TradeFortress>	shopping*
Apr 09 03:09:38 <bgupta>	ah like ubercart
Apr 09 03:09:40 <guruvan>	yes
Apr 09 03:09:44 <bgupta>	but nicer looking
Apr 09 03:09:45 <guruvan>	it's awesome
Apr 09 03:09:53 <TradeFortress>	it's like people hating on phpBB or wordpress
Apr 09 03:10:14 <bgupta>	opencart is a standalone app/framework or ties in with others?
Apr 09 03:10:47 <TradeFortress>	bgupta, A free shopping cart system. OpenCart is an open source PHP-based online e-commerce solution.
Apr 09 03:11:19 <bgupta>	well things like ubercart provide modules that integrate with existing sit frameworks like Drupal/WP/etc
Apr 09 03:11:34 <bgupta>	looks like opencart is standalone
Apr 09 03:11:44 <guruvan>	modules are available, and/or easy to hack up for opencart
Apr 09 03:12:44 <bgupta>	right, fine for new sites.. but one can't take an existing drupal+uber site, and replace uber with opencart
Apr 09 03:13:34 <bgupta>	guruvan you an opencart "expert"?
Apr 09 03:13:39 <bgupta>	brb
Apr 09 03:13:46 <guruvan>	mmmm expert no
Apr 09 03:13:56 <guruvan>	user
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Apr 09 03:19:23 <bgupta>	gotcha
Apr 09 03:19:33 <bgupta>	Ukto: Any plans for margin/shorting?
Apr 09 03:19:40 <bgupta>	(on bf)
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Apr 09 03:34:47 <bitesak>	;;asks 200
Apr 09 03:34:51 <gribble>	There are currently 9325.799 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1842500.93969 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Apr 09 03:35:01 <bitesak>	;;bids 200
Apr 09 03:35:02 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 200.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.1398 seconds
Apr 09 03:35:10 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 09 03:35:10 <gribble>	There are currently 31400173 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12554073.2917 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.5349 seconds
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Apr 09 03:39:28 <bgupta>	asia buying?
Apr 09 03:40:37 <bgupta>	actually it's like 10am in zurich.. so perhaps eu
Apr 09 03:40:53 <bgupta>	8:45 in London
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Apr 09 03:41:54 <bgupta>	any london traders in the house?
Apr 09 03:42:49 *	bgupta read some article about a bunch of fleet street commity and currency traders starting a squat community where they are all trading btc.
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Apr 09 03:43:09 <bgupta>	(Quiting dayjobs working for the man… trading their own portfolios)
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Apr 09 03:44:58 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 03:44:59 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.024648 seconds. During this time, light travels 4.93943160272e-05 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 09 03:45:19 <bgupta>	sockets down though
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Apr 09 03:48:46 <bgupta>	people getting trade data from gox right now?
Apr 09 03:48:59 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 09 03:49:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 193.40001, Best ask: 193.99998, Bid-ask spread: 0.59997, Last trade: 193.40000, 24 hour volume: 100449.60564842, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 185.87453
Apr 09 03:49:32 <bgupta>	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ seems to not be getting data
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Apr 09 03:56:11 <bitesak>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets
Apr 09 03:56:50 <bitesak>	are you in zurich?
Apr 09 04:00:07 <bgupta>	nope, nyc
Apr 09 04:00:40 <leotreasure>	;;ticker
Apr 09 04:00:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 189.75000, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 190.00000, 24 hour volume: 100332.30500469, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 185.89637
Apr 09 04:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3963 @ 0.00069119 = 2.7392 BTC [-]
Apr 09 04:02:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24037 @ 0.00069129 = 16.6165 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 04:19:31 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 09 04:19:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 193.00000, Best ask: 193.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 193.00000, 24 hour volume: 98722.19205007, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 186.11950
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Apr 09 04:20:47 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 04:20:48 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.904047 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00381568886923 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Apr 09 04:20:52 <taub>	data stream is really spotty
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Apr 09 05:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2999999 BTC [+]
Apr 09 05:16:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00068902 = 11.4033 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 05:30:29 <bitesak>	a new high!
Apr 09 05:35:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C185T] 10 @ 0.18033405 = 1.8033 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 05:39:56 <punkman>	;;ticker
Apr 09 05:39:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 194.47000, Best ask: 194.47989, Bid-ask spread: 0.00989, Last trade: 194.47000, 24 hour volume: 96855.34846046, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 186.40285
Apr 09 05:40:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 191 @ 0.0039 = 0.7449 BTC [-]
Apr 09 05:40:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 18 @ 0.0042 = 0.0756 BTC [+]
Apr 09 05:40:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 45 @ 0.00446 = 0.2007 BTC [+]
Apr 09 05:41:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 17 @ 0.00446 = 0.0758 BTC [+]
Apr 09 05:41:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 564 @ 0.00448 = 2.5267 BTC [+]
Apr 09 05:41:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00448 = 0.224 BTC [+]
Apr 09 05:41:32 <Locksley>	is anyone here using mpex.co for options trading? is the fee still 30BTC (or ~$6,000 USD)?
Apr 09 05:41:59 <pizzaman1337>	Locksley: yes, and yes
Apr 09 05:42:04 <pizzaman1337>	or you can use a passthrough
Apr 09 05:42:16 <pizzaman1337>	for example, https://coinbr.com/
Apr 09 05:42:43 <bitesak>	indeed
Apr 09 05:42:57 <Locksley>	ahh thanks, i've had a look
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Apr 09 05:43:17 <bitesak>	new options will probably be added for next month by the look of things
Apr 09 05:43:52 <bitesak>	i used coinbr for the last month
Apr 09 05:44:18 <Locksley>	how was your experience?
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Apr 09 05:44:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 803 @ 0.003279 = 2.633 BTC [-]
Apr 09 05:44:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 26 @ 0.00328 = 0.0853 BTC [+]
Apr 09 05:44:57 <bitesak>	pretty smooth. at one point, the cancel button was missing, but Jurox was in this channel and it was sorted out in a few minutes
Apr 09 05:45:04 <bitesak>	*Jurov
Apr 09 05:45:47 <Locksley>	apex's UX is just so terrible
Apr 09 05:46:00 <Locksley>	i've got a ruby script that converts it to csv
Apr 09 05:46:08 <Locksley>	https://github.com/locksley/mpex-csv-parser/blob/master/mpex.rb
Apr 09 05:46:25 <Locksley>	thanks for info
Apr 09 05:48:09 <bitesak>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGxfRk5SS0hxT1lsVmdLdU1QY0RveGc#gid=6
Apr 09 05:49:23 <bitesak>	it helps to notice that the price flattens out in the long tails (obviously not now at current price)
Apr 09 05:49:41 <Locksley>	amazing, thanks
Apr 09 05:49:56 <bitesak>	it's not mine but very useful
Apr 09 05:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 920 @ 0.00069129 = 0.636 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 05:54:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.12001 = 0.24 BTC [-]
Apr 09 05:57:26 <bitesak>	are you signing up?
Apr 09 05:58:29 <Locksley>	yeah
Apr 09 05:58:40 <Locksley>	you've got an invite code?
Apr 09 06:00:03 <bitesak>	yeah
Apr 09 06:00:34 <bitesak>	https://coinbr.com/ref?c=a9abzCmGB3
Apr 09 06:00:44 <bitesak>	not for Mpex though
Apr 09 06:01:08 <pizzaman1337>	if you want an mpex referral, let me know
Apr 09 06:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
Apr 09 06:05:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.27 = 0.54 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:05:52 <bitesak>	::ticker
Apr 09 06:05:59 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 09 06:06:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 194.40000, Best ask: 194.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 194.49999, 24 hour volume: 96894.36644455, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 186.52103
Apr 09 06:06:01 <Locksley>	what does an mpex referral give you? lower entry price?
Apr 09 06:06:07 <bitesak>	yes
Apr 09 06:06:22 <TradeFortress>	yup, both parties get 5 BTC
Apr 09 06:07:05 <TradeFortress>	good idea to look at your trading volume and compare if it's a better idea to trade on coinbr or mpex. and if you just deal with s.dice / etc PTs.
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Apr 09 06:08:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.77302 = 1.546 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77301 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.773 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.772 = 4.632 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.767 = 3.068 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76583 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76582 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76551 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7651 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.75103 = 2.2531 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75101 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:08:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.75001 = 3.7501 BTC [-]
Apr 09 06:09:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 56 @ 0.75 = 42 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 06:15:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 06:20:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C185T] 225 @ 0.19831998 = 44.622 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 06:25:30 <bgupta>	new ath?
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Apr 09 06:25:49 <bgupta>	195.2
Apr 09 06:28:02 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 09 06:28:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 195.46500, Best ask: 195.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03500, Last trade: 195.50000, 24 hour volume: 98133.83280558, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 195.00000, 24 hour vwap: 186.66746
Apr 09 06:29:42 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 06:29:43 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 86.078847 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.172501045601 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 09 06:30:05 <bgupta>	should be interesting to see where the price is ager lag resolves
Apr 09 06:30:20 <bgupta>	woah
Apr 09 06:30:45 <bgupta>	shooting for 200 wall
Apr 09 06:31:25 <bgupta>	or not
Apr 09 06:34:32 <MJR_>	hi all
Apr 09 06:35:23 <Diablo-D3>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 06:35:23 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 09 06:35:28 <Diablo-D3>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 06:35:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.669322 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0013413137939 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 09 06:35:37 <Diablo-D3>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 06:35:39 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.126293 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000253089757953 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 09 06:35:43 <Diablo-D3>	heh
Apr 09 06:35:48 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 09 06:35:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 196.92001, Best ask: 197.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 197.00000, 24 hour volume: 97422.28459357, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 197.00000, 24 hour vwap: 186.91751
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Apr 09 06:41:58 <bitesak>	seems a wall just fell
Apr 09 06:42:29 <taub>	here wee go
Apr 09 06:42:37 <MJR_>	should be interesting
Apr 09 06:42:57 <MJR_>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 09 06:42:58 <gribble>	186.11
Apr 09 06:43:20 <MJR_>	;;(186.11-164)/186.11
Apr 09 06:43:21 <gribble>	Error: "(186.11-164)/186.11" is not a valid command.
Apr 09 06:43:27 <MJR_>	;;calc (186.11-164)/186.11
Apr 09 06:43:28 <gribble>	0.118800709258
Apr 09 06:44:46 <MJR_>	there it goes
Apr 09 06:44:49 <MJR_>	198
Apr 09 06:45:00 <bgupta>	http://bitbet.us/bet/330/mtgox-bitcoin-usd-exchange-rate-200-before/
Apr 09 06:45:14 <bgupta>	so looks like I'll be losing that bet
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Apr 09 06:46:17 <MJR_>	likely
Apr 09 06:46:31 <bitesak>	you said no?
Apr 09 06:46:49 <bgupta>	I said no
Apr 09 06:46:51 <MJR_>	35 cents
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Apr 09 06:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18030 @ 0.00070061 = 12.632 BTC [+]
Apr 09 06:47:21 <MJR_>	a penny
Apr 09 06:47:28 <MJR_>	there it is!!!
Apr 09 06:47:34 <MJR_>	woohoo everyone we just hit 200
Apr 09 06:47:38 <deyyo__>	yep :P
Apr 09 06:47:47 <leotreasure>	wooooooooo!
Apr 09 06:47:51 <bgupta>	just lost bet
Apr 09 06:47:53 <MJR_>	did you guys see ernie with his mind blown?
Apr 09 06:47:55 <deyyo__>	http://bitbet.us/bet/330/mtgox-bitcoin-usd-exchange-rate-200-before/
Apr 09 06:47:56 <damientrog>	just won the bet :D
Apr 09 06:48:18 <mircea_popescu>	woot
Apr 09 06:49:19 <bitesak>	2K coins exchanged at 200
Apr 09 06:49:25 <bitesak>	and counting
Apr 09 06:49:33 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 09 06:49:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 200.48000, Best ask: 200.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 200.40000, 24 hour volume: 97559.81266110, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 197.48000, 24 hour vwap: 187.02354
Apr 09 06:49:53 <rikur>	http://bitbet.us/bet/330/mtgox-bitcoin-usd-exchange-rate-200-before/
Apr 09 06:49:58 <rikur>	me too
Apr 09 06:50:04 <rikur>	now someone resolve it
Apr 09 06:50:27 <bitesak>	;;asks 202
Apr 09 06:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	heh what's the rush
Apr 09 06:50:30 <gribble>	There are currently 881.21269 bitcoins offered at or under 202.0 USD, worth 177205.166732 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Apr 09 06:50:33 <MJR_>	the "bubble" is alive and well
Apr 09 06:50:56 <ColdHardMetal>	bitcoinity bringing the lulz again
Apr 09 06:50:58 <MJR_>	at what point do they cease seeing a bubble and start seeing a new price level?
Apr 09 06:51:25 <MJR_>	lolz
Apr 09 06:51:48 <MJR_>	bitcoinity is the best channel on tv lol
Apr 09 06:52:43 <MJR_>	geez, not even a little time to pause and reflect on how far we've come...nope, on to 300 NAO
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Apr 09 06:56:59 <rikur>	hey does the betting time get re-adjusted for the actual length of the bet?
Apr 09 06:57:03 <rikur>	would be fair :)
Apr 09 06:57:13 <rikur>	I was Yes days ago
Apr 09 06:58:04 <damientrog>	yes the weight of your bet will be higher
Apr 09 06:59:01 <jurov>	uhh just missed it... anyone has bitcoinity screenshot?
Apr 09 06:59:05 <rikur>	I know, but since the weight was given against the Last of April, even last minute better get 50% weighted
Apr 09 06:59:47 <rikur>	It should be weighted: start -> end of bet
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Apr 09 07:00:21 <rikur>	not start -> maximum lifetime of bet.
Apr 09 07:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	rikur weight's not readjusted, why;'d it be ?
Apr 09 07:01:11 <jurov>	also, then bettors betting just before lifetime would get almost 0 weight
Apr 09 07:01:18 <rikur>	mircea_popescu: for example this mtgox bet, you get more information as price goes higher and it's less risky to bet yes
Apr 09 07:01:23 <rikur>	but the weight is relatively still high
Apr 09 07:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 09 07:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	so ?
Apr 09 07:01:44 <jurov>	lol some bitch weight is too small, others that it is too big
Apr 09 07:01:48 <rikur>	jurov: they would get their own money back and a tiny profit on top of that
Apr 09 07:01:56 <jurov>	rikur nope
Apr 09 07:02:10 <rikur>	huh your algo is not that smart then
Apr 09 07:02:19 <MJR_>	not a lot holding back from 235 right now...this is getting crazy
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Apr 09 07:02:22 <jurov>	they will get their money minus house edge
Apr 09 07:02:23 <bgupta>	the bet was more yes folks than no folks through most of it's life
Apr 09 07:02:25 <rikur>	favors last minute bettors who
Apr 09 07:02:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1565 @ 0.00069716 = 1.0911 BTC [-]
Apr 09 07:02:28 <MJR_>	;;bids 0
Apr 09 07:02:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00070096 = 13.7388 BTC [+]
Apr 09 07:02:28 <gribble>	There are currently 31615980 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12659267.2931 USD in total. | Data vintage: 75.7371 seconds
Apr 09 07:02:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00070757 = 12.1348 BTC [+]
Apr 09 07:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1085 @ 0.00070898 = 0.7692 BTC [+]
Apr 09 07:02:44 <MJR_>	;;asks 235
Apr 09 07:02:44 <gribble>	There are currently 7289.0965 bitcoins offered at or under 235.0 USD, worth 1564703.04003 USD in total. | Data vintage: 91.5550 seconds
Apr 09 07:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't favour anybody.
Apr 09 07:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	who'd you figure "it favors".
Apr 09 07:03:28 <rikur>	jurov: when I bet Yes at around 160$, I was taking much higher risk than last minute 50 BTC bettor don't you agree?
Apr 09 07:03:39 <jurov>	not at all
Apr 09 07:03:47 <jurov>	it can fall as well as rise
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Apr 09 07:03:59 <bgupta>	so we gonna get a rash of articles talking about 200 and 2 billion
Apr 09 07:04:01 <rikur>	lol, but the information the bets are placed has changed
Apr 09 07:04:13 <ColdHardMetal>	;;bc,mktcap
Apr 09 07:04:14 <gribble>	2224267339.89
Apr 09 07:04:28 <bowjob>	price has gone insane
Apr 09 07:04:30 <mircea_popescu>	rikur the fact that the information has changed may make the system inconvenient for oyu
Apr 09 07:04:35 <bgupta>	btw - kinda glad I lost that bet
Apr 09 07:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	but it does not make the system unfair in itself.
Apr 09 07:04:40 <bowjob>	also, i won my fist bitbet
Apr 09 07:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	in order for it to be unfair it'd have to be unfair in general, not inconvenient to some case.
Apr 09 07:05:31 <bgupta>	the 140 bettors who bet yes can scrap over my 20 btc..
Apr 09 07:05:31 <rikur>	mircea_popescu: it is unfair in general whenever the bet can end before the max life time
Apr 09 07:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171057.0 apparently unfunded orders is going away
Apr 09 07:05:44 <rikur>	late bettors gain leverage on more information
Apr 09 07:05:54 <bowjob>	there should be a rule on bitbet if people try to game the system by putting btc after the event stops
Apr 09 07:05:54 <mircea_popescu>	rikur they also incur the list on losing their capital
Apr 09 07:05:58 <rikur>	it is totally different to bet Yes with 10 BTC early on than 50 BTC on the last minute
Apr 09 07:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	if the bet closes before theior bet makes it in.
Apr 09 07:06:03 <bowjob>	you should keep the btc
Apr 09 07:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	no, it
Apr 09 07:06:22 <mircea_popescu>	s not just totally different. its very risky to bet 10 at the last minute.
Apr 09 07:06:34 <rikur>	far less risky, you gotta admit that
Apr 09 07:06:39 <jurov>	rikur if you want the bet weight to reflect tmkt information, you're plainly using wrong instrument
Apr 09 07:06:52 <jurov>	trade options instad.
Apr 09 07:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	it's not far less risky. it's VERY risky.
Apr 09 07:07:06 <mircea_popescu>	have you read bitbet last month reports ?
Apr 09 07:07:13 <rikur>	no
Apr 09 07:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	half the dividends came from people trying to leech the betpools by betting late.
Apr 09 07:07:44 <joeykrim>	can you link to last month's report? sounds like a good read
Apr 09 07:07:45 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 09 07:07:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 203.50001, Best ask: 203.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24999, Last trade: 203.99000, 24 hour volume: 103340.65692708, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 205.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.16600
Apr 09 07:07:47 <rikur>	so that's why you don't fix it
Apr 09 07:07:59 <deadweasel>	203!
Apr 09 07:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	joeykrim http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-march-2013-statement/
Apr 09 07:08:12 <joeykrim>	mircea_popescu, thx
Apr 09 07:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	irt's not that "i don;'t fix it". it's that what you're proposing is not a fix, and what i have is.
Apr 09 07:09:00 <jurov>	so about 30btc was sent to expired addies???
Apr 09 07:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	23 if memory serves
Apr 09 07:09:46 <mircea_popescu>	it wasn't expired addies, it was more specifically : guy sees bet about to close, sends btc, doesn't make in before close.
Apr 09 07:09:59 <rikur>	so what happens if they don't make it
Apr 09 07:10:08 <mircea_popescu>	btc goes to shareholders.
Apr 09 07:10:13 <rikur>	what?
Apr 09 07:10:14 <rikur>	lol
Apr 09 07:10:19 <mircea_popescu>	yep.
Apr 09 07:10:26 <rikur>	what a fag site
Apr 09 07:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	maybe bitcoin is a little new to you.
Apr 09 07:10:38 <punkman>	lol
Apr 09 07:10:47 <rikur>	the rules are not based on any sane math
Apr 09 07:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	"Looking for someone to create/modify software for this forum [5500+ BTC] " << bitcointalk now has > 1mn dollars in software devbiounty
Apr 09 07:10:53 <rikur>	but it's cool
Apr 09 07:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	largest in history of internet ?
Apr 09 07:11:00 <jurov>	we just happen to have this "sinkhole in foyer, whatever falls in is kept" capitalism here
Apr 09 07:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	jurov it's incredibly efficient in encouraging people not to litter.
Apr 09 07:11:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7749 BTC [+]
Apr 09 07:11:46 <jurov>	lol hehe... i'm considering to enact something like
Apr 09 07:12:17 <jurov>	oh i already am.. there's a guy who forgot both his coinbr username, password and email
Apr 09 07:12:24 <mircea_popescu>	...
Apr 09 07:12:33 <jurov>	and wasn't able to produce a btc addy even with hint
Apr 09 07:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	how do you know you're not being social engineered in a case like that ?
Apr 09 07:12:53 <jurov>	i don't know. hence, it will be kept by coinbr
Apr 09 07:13:39 <rikur>	mircea_popescu: I can't see this risky last minute bet mentioned on the site
Apr 09 07:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	read the faq.
Apr 09 07:13:59 <rikur>	and still, the weight should be re-calibrated in bets that end earlier
Apr 09 07:14:10 <bitesak>	to suit you
Apr 09 07:14:12 <rikur>	just my feed back as a paying customer :)
Apr 09 07:15:11 <bgupta>	new bet: will btc trade below 200.. ;)
Apr 09 07:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 09 07:16:07 <jurov>	or just for fun "bitcoin will fall below $2 in 2013"
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Apr 09 07:16:36 <jurov>	although, even 1000% profit from such bet would be moot
Apr 09 07:17:11 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Apr 09 07:17:25 <taub>	there's a ton of buying pressure
Apr 09 07:17:56 <taub>	 ratio: 362.74 USD/BTC
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Apr 09 07:18:07 <taub>	up from 290 during the breakout runup
Apr 09 07:18:18 <unbalanced_>	...and gox api down again?
Apr 09 07:18:36 <taub>	still working for me, the data stream at least
Apr 09 07:18:39 <taub>	lax is next to zero too
Apr 09 07:18:42 <jurov>	;;ticker
Apr 09 07:18:43 <taub>	lag*
Apr 09 07:18:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 199.96722, Best ask: 200.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03278, Last trade: 200.00000, 24 hour volume: 104305.48741673, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 205.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.36658
Apr 09 07:18:48 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 07:18:49 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3.389127 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00679177256144 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
Apr 09 07:18:57 <unbalanced_>	I'm looking at bitcoincharts and at mpex.co: no bot quotes?
Apr 09 07:18:59 <bowjob>	oh no crash
Apr 09 07:19:19 <jurov>	ic, bowjob is on it again :)
Apr 09 07:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ prolly bitcoincharts crapped out
Apr 09 07:19:28 <bowjob>	shush. old habits die hard
Apr 09 07:19:33 <unbalanced_>	Yeah they're boned now
Apr 09 07:19:36 <bowjob>	im trying to figure out this mining game
Apr 09 07:20:08 <bowjob>	"valueerror: need more than 1 value to unpack
Apr 09 07:20:38 <bowjob>	I registered on slush's pool. i inputted my worker bowjob.worker1 and put whatever password they supplied me
Apr 09 07:20:48 <bowjob>	then i click mine, and it doesnt seems to work
Apr 09 07:20:50 <rikur>	but yeah, not going to bit again on bets like this. unfair rules still, can't understand why you don't agree.
Apr 09 07:21:35 <unbalanced_>	How often do the bots sample the bitcoincharts 24hr vwap?
Apr 09 07:21:58 <bgupta>	bowjob, best to hit the slush irc channel…
Apr 09 07:22:01 <unbalanced_>	And how often does bitcoincharts update it? every 15min? hourly?
Apr 09 07:22:10 <bowjob>	aye.
Apr 09 07:22:25 <bowjob>	im prepping for my avalon. didnt have too much time to think.
Apr 09 07:22:27 <bowjob>	just buyyyyy
Apr 09 07:22:33 <bgupta>	heh
Apr 09 07:22:40 <bowjob>	i guess ill be spoiled with 4 btc a day
Apr 09 07:22:44 <bgupta>	mining is hot work...
Apr 09 07:22:45 <jurov>	just my observation - bot refreshes somewhere between 5-20 minutes
Apr 09 07:22:52 <unbalanced_>	thx
Apr 09 07:23:00 <bgupta>	bitcoincharts is a bit flaky atm
Apr 09 07:23:02 <jurov>	and btcharts vwap seems to be updated continuously
Apr 09 07:23:20 <bgupta>	or was
Apr 09 07:23:37 <jurov>	if it's there, ofc.
Apr 09 07:24:09 <bgupta>	taub: what's that ratio?
Apr 09 07:24:09 <jurov>	but they warn that it shouldn't be fetched more often than every 15min.
Apr 09 07:24:26 <unbalanced_>	And when the bots have been blind for X minutes because of a b...charts api crapout, they go to n/a
Apr 09 07:24:48 <jurov>	instead of looking around for some cloud/cdn solution to distribute their api
Apr 09 07:25:09 <unbalanced_>	Do the the bots wait X minutes on an outage or do they go straight to n/a
Apr 09 07:25:43 <unbalanced_>	I remember reading something about stale info a week or two ago and am just trying to grok it now
Apr 09 07:25:52 <jurov>	why would they wait? it's risky
Apr 09 07:26:30 <bgupta>	well.. vwap moves kinda slowly...
Apr 09 07:26:31 <jurov>	iirc mp said they place orders with expiration date, they don't actively cancel them
Apr 09 07:26:44 <taub>	bgupta: all usd from the bid vs the coins on the ask
Apr 09 07:26:49 <bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/
Apr 09 07:26:55 <bgupta>	ah..
Apr 09 07:26:59 <bowjob>	lol. reall,y 57 BTC on NO
Apr 09 07:26:59 <MJR_>	i think it would be funny if one day all the sellers decided to list all their coins at $1010101...for 10 minutes, just to show people that they have to choose to sell
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Apr 09 07:27:35 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> iirc mp said they place orders with expiration date, they don't actively cancel them << this is correct.
Apr 09 07:27:37 <MJR_>	i am more worried about everyone choosing to just say, why bother selling at all...
Apr 09 07:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	if bot can't find pricing feed / is not sane it just doesn't quote, tries again.
Apr 09 07:29:14 <jurov>	can't you ask bitcoinity to provide alternative feed?
Apr 09 07:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not using mtgox only feed.
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Apr 09 07:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.26 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Apr 09 07:31:10 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: Am I observing incorrectly that min/max and volume numbers go away if bots aren't playing?
Apr 09 07:31:29 <bgupta>	nvm
Apr 09 07:31:32 <mircea_popescu>	i think you are, yes
Apr 09 07:31:54 <jurov>	i know but bitcoinity can make average vwap from these 4 biggest exchanges they have there
Apr 09 07:32:16 <jurov>	should be accurate enough for pricing at least, if not for exercises
Apr 09 07:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	meh.
Apr 09 07:32:57 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
Apr 09 07:33:01 <bgupta>	might be worth running ones own private vwap pricing service..
Apr 09 07:34:09 <bgupta>	I'd look at the uptime/downtime numbers of the public one that's used, and see how often it's offline
Apr 09 07:34:09 <bowjob>	http://imageshack.us/f/571/mtgoxiseebatman.jpg/
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Apr 09 07:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta the entire idea is to separate data feeds and market
Apr 09 07:36:14 <bgupta>	so new seller wall at 205
Apr 09 07:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	i'm never running a private one.
Apr 09 07:36:32 <mircea_popescu>	the community has to get ity's collective useless ass in a bunch and make a working service.
Apr 09 07:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	absent that, it doesn
Apr 09 07:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	't actually need options.
Apr 09 07:37:01 <bgupta>	what's the revenue in running a pricing service?
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Apr 09 07:37:53 <bgupta>	IE: seems a small amount of ad revenue at best.
Apr 09 07:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure what you mean by pricing service.
Apr 09 07:39:20 <jurov>	while i'm at it, what price is used for exercises when btccharts isn't there?
Apr 09 07:39:21 <bgupta>	like bitcoincharts, which you use for vwap quotes..
Apr 09 07:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	jurov last available.
Apr 09 07:39:29 <MJR_>	i was wondering about bitcoinity's business model...
Apr 09 07:39:41 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta irl bloomberg seems to do okay.
Apr 09 07:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise, as far as websites go, thuis would be the highest traffic website in btc.
Apr 09 07:40:06 <mircea_popescu>	granted, a geek might not be mentally capable to turn something useful into something productive.
Apr 09 07:40:14 <mircea_popescu>	but let him find a boss.
Apr 09 07:40:20 <mircea_popescu>	and let that boss not be me.
Apr 09 07:40:55 <MJR_>	i think that if you want to talk about eyeballs on a screen, bitcoinity has that...someone should create the CNBC of bitcoin, and basically just do a youtube channel talking about bitcoin related affairs with great market data in the ticker and sidebar.
Apr 09 07:41:23 <jurov>	MJR_ ur doing something too, no?
Apr 09 07:41:31 <jurov>	or just another exchange?
Apr 09 07:41:33 <MJR_>	I appreciate the little easter eggs, and i think people watch bitcoinity pretty religiously
Apr 09 07:41:41 <MJR_>	hopefully aggregation of data
Apr 09 07:41:46 <MJR_>	but bootstrapping process
Apr 09 07:41:48 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i think the model is very good as it is : bitcoinity for the crazed f5 mashing crowd, bitcoincharts for the more in depth universal minded minds.
Apr 09 07:41:52 <bgupta>	right my point is in this case, I sense that that a solid site could be built, and it would be useful, and get a lot of traffic, but there doesn't seem to be a market yet of folks iwlling to pay for a paywall service.. and ads can only bring in so much.
Apr 09 07:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	this should work on the long term, stratefgically speaking
Apr 09 07:42:50 <MJR_>	my plan is not to try and woo current customers but rather find a large pool of new customers, expanding the pie rather than redistributing it
Apr 09 07:43:08 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a good plan.
Apr 09 07:43:14 <MJR_>	(you will redistribute it once you have a certain critical mass anyway)
Apr 09 07:43:47 <MJR_>	so eventually data services will be a part of that, but for now its trying to get the most bang for the buck
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Apr 09 07:45:04 <MJR_>	I think if someone just read the top stories from reddit, and had a simple feed from this channel on a youtube program, while showing bitcoinity, bitcoincharts, clarkmoody, they could get ad revenue
Apr 09 07:46:58 <MJR_>	1700 people on the subreddit now...
Apr 09 07:47:17 <MJR_>	7162 on bitcoinity
Apr 09 07:47:19 <mircea_popescu>	prhaps.
Apr 09 07:47:45 <MJR_>	bloomberg started small (i know most people can't believe that these monolithic huge corps were startups at one point)
Apr 09 07:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	heh. yea.
Apr 09 07:48:33 <bowjob>	hey mp
Apr 09 07:48:34 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ i kept trying to push people towards dfoing a blog, which is a subset of what you say but easier to do (for a geek)
Apr 09 07:48:34 <bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/392/mtgox-bitcoin-usd-exchange-rate-250-before/
Apr 09 07:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	nobody wants to sink the work into anything.
Apr 09 07:48:44 <bowjob>	For this bet, I posted the exact same bet, i dont see my addy
Apr 09 07:48:47 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 09 07:48:50 <bowjob>	... were there 2 bets?
Apr 09 07:48:52 <MJR_>	and it does take work and capital
Apr 09 07:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	people just want to dick around pressing f5 on some imaginary "getting rich" thing
Apr 09 07:49:11 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob tis possible.
Apr 09 07:49:15 <MJR_>	and right now everyone is waiting for everyone else to start the business that they can have as a customer, but they won't start it till they have the services they need
Apr 09 07:49:16 <bowjob>	mhm
Apr 09 07:49:28 <bowjob>	aye, same exact lazy copypasta as mine
Apr 09 07:49:28 <bowjob>	lol
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Apr 09 07:50:01 <MJR_>	bloomberg started with 10 mil and 22 terminals
Apr 09 07:50:09 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ where "the services they need" = other people doing all the work so they can just repackage it and pretend to be apple./
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Apr 09 07:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	tyvm but that is not useful.
Apr 09 07:50:14 <MJR_>	which may seem like a lot of cash, but it isn't really in the grand scheme of where they are now
Apr 09 07:50:44 <MJR_>	^^^which?
Apr 09 07:51:29 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: I agree, don't need repackagers, need people willing to work
Apr 09 07:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	other than people who code there doesn't really seem to be any group in the us with any sort of work ethic.
Apr 09 07:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	and the people who code have monstrous ego issues.
Apr 09 07:52:12 <mircea_popescu>	it's a conundrum i tell ye.
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Apr 09 07:54:32 <MJR_>	it really is
Apr 09 07:54:56 <MJR_>	only way is for someone to do what you did in other spaces
Apr 09 07:55:00 <MJR_>	become the foundation
Apr 09 07:55:14 <MJR_>	ugh, i don't mean like the bitcoin foundation
Apr 09 07:55:17 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob there were two bets, one had a zeroconf in it and was picked.
Apr 09 07:55:32 <bowjob>	zeroconf?
Apr 09 07:55:35 <MJR_>	i mean like a solid base for other people to build an economy around
Apr 09 07:55:51 <bowjob>	i assume the other guy put some btc in, thats why his got accepted
Apr 09 07:55:56 <Olive6767>	is this me or btc-e trades are not working currently?
Apr 09 07:56:07 <bowjob>	aye, thats fine.. kk
Apr 09 07:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob yea, you may send btc along with your bet
Apr 09 07:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	which for whatever reasons is called zeroconf in bitbet internals
Apr 09 07:59:00 <MJR_>	we need job creators lol, 10 million --> 22.5 billion
Apr 09 07:59:08 <bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142318.0
Apr 09 07:59:12 <bowjob>	I love this thread
Apr 09 07:59:37 <bowjob>	"Topic: I'm calling the top here @ $23.98961"
Apr 09 08:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 09 08:01:12 <punkman>	*respect*
Apr 09 08:01:47 <bowjob>	john banned him, aw sucks
Apr 09 08:01:59 <MJR_>	that was a hilarious thread
Apr 09 08:02:07 <MJR_>	each new round number in big funny fonts
Apr 09 08:03:01 <bowjob>	it used to be him trolling, then I turned the thread about cats... then somehow it tured out to be an ATH thread
Apr 09 08:03:31 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: do you still believe BTC is not worth 130+?
Apr 09 08:03:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C185T] 10 @ 0.21192633 = 2.1193 BTC [+]
Apr 09 08:03:44 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 09 08:03:46 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: 188.04
Apr 09 08:04:20 <mircea_popescu>	the text said "yet".
Apr 09 08:04:55 <bgupta>	taub: wondering if that ratio thing is a red herring.. and just a natural result of what happens when price goes up.. IE: people don't set out to sell a fixed number of coins, but rather they are selling to raise a certain amount of fiat to pay for bills/toys.. and in btc terms those keep getting cheaper as btc rallies.
Apr 09 08:05:38 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: so time in bitcoin is accelerated 1000x to real life?
Apr 09 08:05:39 <thestringpuller>	:D
Apr 09 08:05:42 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 09 08:05:47 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu, mah nigga
Apr 09 08:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta may be a good point yes
Apr 09 08:07:41 <bgupta>	so press has noticed 200, haven't seen much talk of $2billion http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/
Apr 09 08:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/let-me-show-you-how-right-i-am/
Apr 09 08:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	rthere, just for you.
Apr 09 08:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta technically it's 2.22 bn
Apr 09 08:08:26 <bgupta>	yeah.. but the crossing of the threshold.. over 2 billion.. blah
Apr 09 08:08:57 <unbalanced_>	MJR_ is your site in private testing yet?
Apr 09 08:09:16 <unbalanced_>	What do you code in?
Apr 09 08:09:27 <taub>	bgupta: i haven't found out any correlation yet, but it's cute to look at
Apr 09 08:09:44 <unbalanced_>	I completely agree about finding people willing to Do The Work.
Apr 09 08:09:50 <unbalanced_>	Not easy.
Apr 09 08:09:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00070898 = 9.5712 BTC [+]
Apr 09 08:09:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 09 08:10:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 204.50000, Best ask: 204.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 204.60000, 24 hour volume: 106092.82752189, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 207.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.99308
Apr 09 08:10:10 <ThickAsThieves>	nice price
Apr 09 08:10:11 <thestringpuller>	too bad I'm still behind the paywall :D
Apr 09 08:10:12 <unbalanced_>	So we just have to  do it ourselves.
Apr 09 08:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	aww
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Apr 09 08:19:05 <bowjob>	woo. almost my cakeday
Apr 09 08:19:35 <bowjob>	21 years of doing absolutely jack shit.
Apr 09 08:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	you never got any chick pregnant ?
Apr 09 08:21:40 <bowjob>	nah. i had this classmate knock a girl up when he was in hs. he's not so free these days
Apr 09 08:22:05 <bowjob>	and i hate babies. all they do is shit around
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Apr 09 08:24:01 <bowjob>	cavirtex is at 219
Apr 09 08:24:02 <bowjob>	mhm
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Apr 09 08:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	well i didn't mean she'd keep it necessarily.
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Apr 09 08:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.266 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:31:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.265 = 0.53 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:31:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.261 = 1.566 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:31:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.26000011 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:31:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2600001 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:31:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.26 = 1.04 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:31:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.25982367 = 0.5196 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:31:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.245 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:31:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.24 = 0.72 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:32:00 <bowjob>	VTX.. what are you doing
Apr 09 08:32:01 <bowjob>	stahp
Apr 09 08:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.261 BTC [+]
Apr 09 08:33:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.26 = 1.3 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:33:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.258101 = 0.5162 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:33:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25810002 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:33:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.258 = 2.322 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:33:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.258 = 0.774 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:33:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2566 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:33:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.251 = 8.785 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:33:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:33:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.25 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:34:05 <Insaneatyou>	asciilifeform hey, I would love to work with BTC but I am poor. MP said I should talk to you
Apr 09 08:34:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00302126 = 1.5106 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:35:31 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: work on evil things. Trojans that steal BTC/LTC or mine; more efficient ways to brute-force SHA256; attacks on the network; and the like.
Apr 09 08:35:45 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: one example: http://jheusser.github.com/2013/02/03/satcoin.html
Apr 09 08:36:03 <Insaneatyou>	asciilifeform: My skills are not in programming
Apr 09 08:36:15 <Insaneatyou>	but I'd like to pointout, i already mentioned this to MP
Apr 09 08:36:23 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: the common pattern here is that "money makes money" doesn't apply here; having more BTC (or USD) does not give you an advantage in purely intellectual battles
Apr 09 08:36:34 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: what *can* you do?
Apr 09 08:36:44 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: are you skilled in mathematics?
Apr 09 08:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.25 = 1.75 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:37:06 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: how about stage magic? cold reading? can you fool people convincingly?
Apr 09 08:37:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00302126 = 2.1149 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:37:24 <Insaneatyou>	I hate people but make a fair to middling salesman
Apr 09 08:37:33 <Insaneatyou>	I'm best at solving complex problems
Apr 09 08:37:39 <Insaneatyou>	but sadly I have no specific math skills
Apr 09 08:37:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00068902 = 1.1713 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:37:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00068626 = 4.1862 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:37:56 <Insaneatyou>	I'm apparently the worst at selling myself
Apr 09 08:38:02 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: drum up an exit stampede from BTC, then. so that you (and the rest of us) can load up a bit.
Apr 09 08:38:14 <Insaneatyou>	but to be honest, I'm looking to study Economics, that's my area of interest
Apr 09 08:38:44 <Insaneatyou>	lol
Apr 09 08:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	best at solving complex problems but no math skills !? how exactly does this work ?
Apr 09 08:38:58 <Insaneatyou>	My plan was to load up after the price drops from it's highs
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Apr 09 08:39:16 <Insaneatyou>	I did much math before, but haven't used it in a while, i also used to code some
Apr 09 08:39:50 <bgupta>	I hate headlines like this that don't have a matching story http://www.nysun.com/national/boom-in-bitcoins-challenges-bernanke-amid-sagging/88262/
Apr 09 08:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	but can you give an example of such a problem ?
Apr 09 08:40:07 <Bugpowder>	ask for advice here.  http://www.reddit.com/r/depression/
Apr 09 08:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't even know there was a ny sun
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Apr 09 08:40:28 <mircea_popescu>	"Finding a date and/or a job while completely convinced you are a worthless piece of garbage... how do you do it?"
Apr 09 08:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	dude i should hang out there more.
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Apr 09 08:40:48 <mircea_popescu>	i like people who know they're worthless pieces of garage.
Apr 09 08:40:52 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: perhaps drugs are the answer.
Apr 09 08:40:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 09 08:40:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 206.01001, Best ask: 206.29959, Bid-ask spread: 0.28958, Last trade: 206.29959, 24 hour volume: 103646.77817016, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 207.00000, 24 hour vwap: 189.53950
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Apr 09 08:41:09 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform what happened to love you dark van gogh spirit you
Apr 09 08:41:47 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: of the 'performance enhancing' kind
Apr 09 08:42:02 <mircea_popescu>	oic
Apr 09 08:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:42:29 <Insaneatyou>	To be honest, i dont have any examples. If you have a problem, hit me with it. I'll give it a shot
Apr 09 08:42:45 <Bugpowder>	remove the "looking to" from this sentence.  "but to be honest, I'm looking to study Economics, that's my area of interest"
Apr 09 08:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	"I feel like I can't talk to anyone, because my own problems are stupid and insignificant, because I am stupid and insignificant."
Apr 09 08:42:53 <mircea_popescu>	dude totally.
Apr 09 08:43:06 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: empty your penny jar, and buy one bitcoin. write a trading bot and see if you can turn it into two.
Apr 09 08:43:28 <mircea_popescu>	how have i not seen this before.
Apr 09 08:43:34 <Bugpowder>	I recommend watching clark moody with the sound up loud
Apr 09 08:43:38 <Insaneatyou>	Bugpowder - yes
Apr 09 08:43:46 <Bugpowder>	and cursing yourself for not having enough coins
Apr 09 08:43:51 <Bugpowder>	FUCKKKKK
Apr 09 08:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	"i feel like im dying, or maybe dead. in incredible agony now."
Apr 09 08:44:04 <Bugpowder>	210
Apr 09 08:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	"Do I have depression, or is this all just hormones?"
Apr 09 08:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 09 08:44:21 <Bugpowder>	is there a difference?
Apr 09 08:44:30 <Insaneatyou>	asciilifeform - ah, yes, i hadn't quite realized that you could do that. It's an unregulated marekt
Apr 09 08:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder ikr
Apr 09 08:45:28 <Insaneatyou>	Bugpowder - point.
Apr 09 08:45:28 <unbalanced_>	http://chatt.hdsb.ca/~kozborj/images/whatisntchemistry.gif
Apr 09 08:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	Insaneatyou you can do that in the regulated market too.
Apr 09 08:45:42 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 09 08:45:48 <Bugpowder>	physicds
Apr 09 08:45:49 <Insaneatyou>	Thought bots were illegal?
Apr 09 08:45:54 <Bugpowder>	wat?
Apr 09 08:46:18 <Bugpowder>	question : how old are you?
Apr 09 08:46:43 <bowjob>	someone posted a topic that they;ll invest 100k in btc
Apr 09 08:46:48 <bowjob>	this is from a gaming forum
Apr 09 08:46:49 <bowjob>	wow
Apr 09 08:47:28 <saulimus>	great, thanks to him the price rises
Apr 09 08:47:33 <Insaneatyou>	huh
Apr 09 08:47:34 <Bugpowder>	Sad that they will have less than 500 BTC
Apr 09 08:47:35 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: you can do pretty much what you want with BTC without being made to answer for it, if you have half a brain. plenty of people are.
Apr 09 08:47:48 <Bugpowder>	Insaneatyou: how old are you?  seriously.
Apr 09 08:47:50 <Insaneatyou>	bugpowder 24
Apr 09 08:48:07 <Bugpowder>	ok, well you have got a shitload of reading to do about economics and markets
Apr 09 08:48:15 <Insaneatyou>	asciilifeform yeah, i get that now
Apr 09 08:48:26 <Bugpowder>	although bitcoin is a great place to lear
Apr 09 08:48:32 <Insaneatyou>	bugpowder yah, no joke
Apr 09 08:48:42 <MJR_>	who would make anything illegal?
Apr 09 08:48:53 <MJR_>	also, bots are legal in every financial market as of right now
Apr 09 08:48:55 <Bugpowder>	but the best lessons occur when you lose all your money
Apr 09 08:49:05 <Bugpowder>	at least at the beginning.
Apr 09 08:49:05 <Insaneatyou>	MJR_ in a regulated market in fiat I thought writing bots to trade for you was illegal
Apr 09 08:49:15 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: stop talking to us and go read. Start with Satoshi's paper and go on to the discussions of great scams in the fora, and the various practical details of BTC dealings
Apr 09 08:49:29 <Bugpowder>	Insaneatyou: 90% of the trades on exchanges are bots trading with each other.
Apr 09 08:49:53 <Insaneatyou>	asciilifeform i've read Satoshi's paper, but i see the point.
Apr 09 08:50:04 <MJR_>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 09 08:50:06 <Insaneatyou>	Bugpowder yah, now i realise it's just expensive
Apr 09 08:50:06 <gribble>	188.56
Apr 09 08:50:45 <Bugpowder>	your best chance of getting coins is to buy a put, and pray bitcoins crash to $5.
Apr 09 08:50:50 <Bugpowder>	within the next 2 weeks.
Apr 09 08:50:53 <bowjob>	the 200 BTC bet isnt paid out yet eh?
Apr 09 08:50:59 <Insaneatyou>	asciilifeform one quick question - "great scams in the fora"?
Apr 09 08:51:05 <unbalanced_>	I read forums for 2 years before piping up here and (as people here can verify) I'm still pretty much a bitcoin idiot.
Apr 09 08:51:12 <Bugpowder>	read MPs blog
Apr 09 08:51:14 <unbalanced_>	fora = the forums
Apr 09 08:51:34 <Insaneatyou>	Bugpowder sounds like a quick way to lose my ass
Apr 09 08:51:41 <asciilifeform>	Insaneatyou: read about Pirate, GLBSE, etc.
Apr 09 08:51:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/
Apr 09 08:51:49 <Bugpowder>	Insaneatyou: exactly
Apr 09 08:52:13 <Insaneatyou>	asciilifeform for what purpose?
Apr 09 08:52:41 <Insaneatyou>	stupid question that
Apr 09 08:52:59 <unbalanced_>	To understand the many ways you can lose money with Bitcoin... I could write a book
Apr 09 08:53:00 <bowjob>	so mp, any reason why bitbet hasnt paid out yet
Apr 09 08:53:01 <Insaneatyou>	unbalanced_ then i intend to not be you
Apr 09 08:53:04 <bowjob>	for the 200 BTC bet
Apr 09 08:53:04 <unbalanced_>	Learn from other's mistakes
Apr 09 08:53:13 <Bugpowder>	Why try to learn when you already know how to solve complex problems?
Apr 09 08:53:23 <bowjob>	or kako/satoshi/god ect does that
Apr 09 08:53:24 <Bugpowder>	buy some puts, and learn.
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Apr 09 08:53:33 <unbalanced_>	Insaneatyou: that's a good start :)
Apr 09 08:54:03 <unbalanced_>	I should try that, not be me... it worked for George Costanza.
Apr 09 08:54:28 <Insaneatyou>	unbalanced_ sounds like you need this link too: http://www.reddit.com/r/depression/
Apr 09 08:54:48 <Insaneatyou>	one final thing boys, where's the forums?
Apr 09 08:55:50 <pigeons>	this is the internet, no males here
Apr 09 08:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob probably there were some fags or communists among the beneficiaries and we have to scrub the lists
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Apr 09 08:57:25 <unbalanced_>	Self deprecation <> depression. I'm just trying to be polite.
Apr 09 08:57:28 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Apr 09 08:57:29 <bowjob>	ah i see isee. take your time
Apr 09 08:57:30 <bgupta>	http://mobile.blogs.wsj.com/cio/2013/04/08/cios-watching-bitcoin-evolution/
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Apr 09 08:57:53 <Insaneatyou>	unbalanced_ apologies then
Apr 09 08:58:00 <bowjob>	maybe add a rule that if they try to game the system after an event occurs, the btc shall be kept and distributed to shareholders
Apr 09 08:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.25 = 2 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck asked "cios"
Apr 09 08:58:21 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob rule 18 or w/e that was.
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Apr 09 08:58:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00302126 = 2.7191 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:58:34 <unbalanced_>	Insaneatyou: Google is your friend... try typing "bitcoin forum" over there.
Apr 09 08:58:54 <bgupta>	(SOrry took a while to find a non paywall version of article)
Apr 09 08:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.202 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.2012 = 0.4024 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:59:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.20100001 = 4.02 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:59:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.201 = 0.804 BTC [-]
Apr 09 08:59:24 <ThickAsThieves>	poor poor VTX
Apr 09 08:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly, we know what happened there ?
Apr 09 08:59:37 <ThickAsThieves>	fallen from such great heights
Apr 09 08:59:48 <ThickAsThieves>	my working theory,
Apr 09 09:00:10 <ThickAsThieves>	is that many shareholders that bought over IPO price,
Apr 09 09:00:12 <ThickAsThieves>	were flippers
Apr 09 09:00:21 <Insaneatyou>	unbalanced_ thanks
Apr 09 09:00:21 <ThickAsThieves>	many whom held out too long
Apr 09 09:00:24 <ThickAsThieves>	and then
Apr 09 09:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	now that's a distinct possibility.
Apr 09 09:00:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i suspect that people just realized there are no divs
Apr 09 09:00:38 <bowjob>	"Do not send BTC after betting has closed. Any BTC sent to addresses allocated to a bet after betting has closed will be kept by BitBet and distributed to shareholders as dividends. "
Apr 09 09:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	many more "daytraders" than investors in btc yet.
Apr 09 09:00:42 <bowjob>	Golden
Apr 09 09:01:27 <bowjob>	you think they;d realize that there'd be no divs before pouring BTC in
Apr 09 09:02:04 <ThickAsThieves>	you'd think
Apr 09 09:02:06 <bowjob>	or maybe they realized, just hoping others would buy it via greater fool theory
Apr 09 09:02:18 <ThickAsThieves>	greater greater fools eh
Apr 09 09:02:22 <bowjob>	it doesnt relaly hurt virtex
Apr 09 09:02:26 <bowjob>	*really
Apr 09 09:02:37 <bowjob>	since they got th emoney already, their 300k
Apr 09 09:02:39 <ThickAsThieves>	also arent the coins way overpriced there?
Apr 09 09:02:49 <bowjob>	well, the market decides
Apr 09 09:03:04 <bowjob>	its 219 per coin last time i checked
Apr 09 09:03:14 <bowjob>	and 3% fee, going down if you trade more
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Apr 09 09:06:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77489 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:07:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7749 BTC [+]
Apr 09 09:07:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5103 @ 0.00302126 = 15.4175 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 51 @ 0.25 = 12.75 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:08:06 <ThickAsThieves>	some nice arb there
Apr 09 09:08:09 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
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Apr 09 09:09:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 17 @ 0.003 = 0.051 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:09:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 17 @ 0.003 = 0.051 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:09:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.00286 = 1.144 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:09:19 <bowjob>	aight. who got squeezed by virtex here
Apr 09 09:09:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 59 @ 0.002856 = 0.1685 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:09:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 71 @ 0.002855 = 0.2027 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:09:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00285 = 0.0855 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:09:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.00284 = 0.0114 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:09:30 <mircea_popescu>	us mint rationing sales nao.
Apr 09 09:09:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1500 @ 0.002801 = 4.2015 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:09:31 <ThickAsThieves>	la la la
Apr 09 09:09:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.0028 = 0.0504 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:09:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0028 = 2.8 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 09:11:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 28 @ 0.25 = 7 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:12:10 <bowjob>	the fiat value of vtx shares is $44.. still good
Apr 09 09:12:19 <bowjob>	from its 30 dollar ipo value
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Apr 09 09:13:46 <ThickAsThieves>	Signs that you know you made a bad btc deal,1. You start rationalizing in fiat
Apr 09 09:14:39 <bowjob>	I did not touch VTX lol, im not crying.
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Apr 09 09:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	true tho, who cares about fiat.
Apr 09 09:15:25 <bowjob>	they will start issuing dividends q3
Apr 09 09:15:31 <bowjob>	i didnt see that in the prospectus
Apr 09 09:15:53 <ThickAsThieves>	the prosp merely says, IF we start issuing divs, we'll give you some
Apr 09 09:16:01 <ThickAsThieves>	no real commitment
Apr 09 09:17:49 <ThickAsThieves>	blockchain.info down
Apr 09 09:17:53 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 09:17:53 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.573548 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00114938377024 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
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Apr 09 09:17:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 09 09:17:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 206.62620, Best ask: 206.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17380, Last trade: 206.80000, 24 hour volume: 105756.02146466, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 210.00000, 24 hour vwap: 190.26993
Apr 09 09:18:34 <bowjob>	I wonder how many people sent BTC in after the bet closed
Apr 09 09:18:39 <bowjob>	on the 200 BTC in april bet
Apr 09 09:18:46 <ThickAsThieves>	many i hope
Apr 09 09:18:52 <bowjob>	ive seen a few, not sure how much in btc
Apr 09 09:19:00 <bowjob>	its gonna be juicy divs
Apr 09 09:19:01 <ThickAsThieves>	well i dont really wish ill will
Apr 09 09:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.25 = 1 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:19:04 <ThickAsThieves>	but cmon
Apr 09 09:19:16 <bowjob>	it used to be refunded so that rule must be there
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Apr 09 09:19:31 <bowjob>	recently
Apr 09 09:20:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.25 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:20:25 <bowjob>	aye, i see the btc from bitbet. thx a bunch
Apr 09 09:22:00 <Scrat>	ThickAsThieves: it's up
Apr 09 09:22:03 <Scrat>	Free. Open Source. $ 6,485,491,563.34 Successfully Transacted.
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Apr 09 09:22:08 <Scrat>	inb4 government takedown
Apr 09 09:22:15 <ThickAsThieves>	thx
Apr 09 09:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat whassat ?
Apr 09 09:23:20 <Scrat>	"nevermind me, im just a 1man operation that has moved $6 billion"
Apr 09 09:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136551374562.jpg the new bitcoin police cruiser.
Apr 09 09:23:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000648 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:23:38 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: scroll down https://blockchain.info/wallet/
Apr 09 09:24:02 <mircea_popescu>	oh. yeah.
Apr 09 09:24:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000607 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 09:24:36 <mircea_popescu>	everybody is all excited about tghe 100/200/whatever.
Apr 09 09:24:48 <ThickAsThieves>	so 300 next week?
Apr 09 09:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	what they seem to not think too much about is that the more oil you find, the larger an army you need.
Apr 09 09:25:06 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like the people who just build settlers in civ
Apr 09 09:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	then get owned by gingis khan
Apr 09 09:25:44 <bowjob>	thick, why so bearish
Apr 09 09:25:46 <bowjob>	500
Apr 09 09:25:46 <bowjob>	brah
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Apr 09 09:26:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 09 09:26:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 206.40000, Best ask: 207.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 207.00000, 24 hour volume: 105765.49944185, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 210.00000, 24 hour vwap: 190.28382
Apr 09 09:27:10 <pigeons>	gingis khan, the red-headed, gum-diseased conqueror
Apr 09 09:27:16 <deadweasel>	lol mircea_popescu ... you tried the ipad version?  civ revolution.  only game i can play.
Apr 09 09:27:28 <deadweasel>	best for travelling 3-5 hours to win.
Apr 09 09:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	im playing poe atm
Apr 09 09:27:35 <deadweasel>	poe?
Apr 09 09:27:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/path-of-exile-story-continued/
Apr 09 09:29:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 09 09:29:24 <gribble>	63617.6030711
Apr 09 09:29:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 09 09:29:29 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 8989778.42737 based on data since last change | 8887140.87338 based on data for last three days
Apr 09 09:29:42 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 09 09:29:46 <ThickAsThieves>	need more hashes!
Apr 09 09:29:48 <kakobrekla>	first screenshot reminds of diable
Apr 09 09:29:51 <kakobrekla>	diablo
Apr 09 09:30:12 <kakobrekla>	thats as far as my knowledge goes
Apr 09 09:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	it is kinda made by stealing everything that works
Apr 09 09:30:24 <mircea_popescu>	so a lot of diablo in there
Apr 09 09:30:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00068531 = 10.1426 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:30:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00068516 = 0.6166 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:30:56 <deyyo>	diablo 3 was a fail game of the year
Apr 09 09:31:00 <deyyo>	waste of money
Apr 09 09:31:01 <imsaguy>	<mircea_popescu> then get owned by gingis khan << that's why you play as Victoria and build a bunch of archers
Apr 09 09:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy i don't see anyone building archers.
Apr 09 09:31:13 <imsaguy>	shoot the bastages in the eye!
Apr 09 09:31:16 <ThickAsThieves>	D3 did suck
Apr 09 09:31:23 <mircea_popescu>	i see piuk going "heyyo i sent 7\bn wiorth of monyz"
Apr 09 09:31:32 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu, because everyone knows you don't expose your archers
Apr 09 09:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, d3 was a faiul.
Apr 09 09:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy a ok than. my bad.
Apr 09 09:32:16 <imsaguy>	what good is a defender that can get knocked down with a rock if fully exposed?
Apr 09 09:32:54 <imsaguy>	meanwhile, I wait for the bubble to pop and nobody stickign around to try to catch the bathwater
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Apr 09 09:37:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.20001 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:39:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.24001 BTC [+]
Apr 09 09:39:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.24 = 0.48 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 09:40:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00651 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 09:42:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 9999999999
Apr 09 09:42:18 <gribble>	There are currently 35778.387 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999999.0 USD, worth 14046355227.6 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Apr 09 09:42:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 09 09:42:20 <gribble>	There are currently 32306655 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13562707.0394 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.2427 seconds
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Apr 09 09:42:27 <ThickAsThieves>	yikes
Apr 09 09:42:49 <ThickAsThieves>	we're in for some serious movement up still
Apr 09 09:43:27 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 09:43:31 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 60.400741 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.121042408684 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 09 09:43:51 <ThickAsThieves>	210 will go down today
Apr 09 09:44:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 210
Apr 09 09:44:02 <gribble>	There are currently 1210.0012 bitcoins offered at or under 210.0 USD, worth 254025.162912 USD in total. | Data vintage: 104.2441 seconds
Apr 09 09:44:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 215
Apr 09 09:44:17 <gribble>	There are currently 2304.5749 bitcoins offered at or under 215.0 USD, worth 487074.216038 USD in total. | Data vintage: 119.9149 seconds
Apr 09 09:44:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 220
Apr 09 09:44:26 <gribble>	There are currently 3598.1747 bitcoins offered at or under 220.0 USD, worth 768176.646754 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Apr 09 09:44:33 <ThickAsThieves>	!
Apr 09 09:45:04 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 09 09:45:11 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 189.42
Apr 09 09:46:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.12 = 0.72 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:46:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1195 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:46:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.1192 = 0.596 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:46:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.1191 = 0.5955 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:46:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.119 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:46:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 70 @ 0.118 = 8.26 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:46:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 13 @ 0.11712 = 1.5226 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:46:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 20 @ 0.11711 = 2.3422 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:49:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 360 @ 0.001033 = 0.3719 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:49:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C158T] 10 @ 0.30600383 = 3.06 BTC [+]
Apr 09 09:50:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C161T] 5 @ 0.2946322 = 1.4732 BTC [+]
Apr 09 09:50:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C170T] 5 @ 0.26251706 = 1.3126 BTC
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Apr 09 09:51:21 <kakobrekla>	;;rate bitstamp -1 tards
Apr 09 09:51:21 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
Apr 09 09:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C164T] 5 @ 0.28359474 = 1.418 BTC [+]
Apr 09 09:51:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.24 = 0.48 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 09:51:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C167T] 5 @ 0.27289023 = 1.3645 BTC [+]
Apr 09 09:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C173T] 10 @ 0.25247337 = 2.5247 BTC
Apr 09 09:55:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 231.39
Apr 09 09:55:06 <gribble>	There are currently 4830.2361 bitcoins offered at or under 231.39 USD, worth 1057565.65945 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Apr 09 09:55:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 250
Apr 09 09:55:20 <gribble>	There are currently 8423.8545 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 1934423.80375 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.8790 seconds
Apr 09 09:55:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 09 09:55:32 <gribble>	There are currently 32316727 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13548257.8426 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.9812 seconds
Apr 09 09:56:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00103 = 0.0021 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:57:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 13 @ 0.00102 = 0.0133 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:57:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:57:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.001 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:57:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5240 @ 0.00068516 = 3.5902 BTC [-]
Apr 09 09:58:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 09 09:58:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 210.00000, Best ask: 210.44622, Bid-ask spread: 0.44622, Last trade: 210.44622, 24 hour volume: 106279.45771713, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 210.00000, 24 hour vwap: 190.68842
Apr 09 09:59:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 400 @ 0.17758558 = 71.0342 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.201 = 1.206 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:00:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000648 = 0.0032 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:00:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 50 @ 0.17758558 = 8.8793 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:00:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 57 @ 0.000649 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:00:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 28 @ 0.000655 = 0.0183 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:01:01 <taub>	bitbet betters are pretty small-time huh
Apr 09 10:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.20061111 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:01:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.20061111 = 1.6049 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	taub i seem to recall a 90 btc bet yest
Apr 09 10:01:33 <mircea_popescu>	afaik plenty of places even in vegas will turn down a 15k bet.
Apr 09 10:01:46 <taub>	well they arent p2p
Apr 09 10:02:00 <taub>	they offer fixed odds
Apr 09 10:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.20061111 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:02:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.21 = 3.78 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 10:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	no i mean on betting
Apr 09 10:02:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 50 @ 0.17758558 = 8.8793 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.20011 = 0.8004 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2001 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:03:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:03:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:03:07 <taub>	yea me too, i mean unless it's a betting exchange, the cointerparty is the house
Apr 09 10:03:11 <taub>	so of course they limit their size
Apr 09 10:03:27 <mircea_popescu>	this is a spurious argument.
Apr 09 10:03:37 <mircea_popescu>	fact is, ion bitbet people in fact bet 15k in one go
Apr 09 10:03:43 <mircea_popescu>	on other places, such as vegas joints, they can not.
Apr 09 10:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	thus, vegas is indeed smalltime.
Apr 09 10:04:13 <taub>	well
Apr 09 10:04:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 34 @ 0.17758558 = 6.0379 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:05:11 <ThickAsThieves>	211
Apr 09 10:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap ^oix
Apr 09 10:05:54 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 147.08078325 high: 181.60130255 low: 110.64241833 volume: 19536 btc: 4621.81435971 30 day: no data
Apr 09 10:06:48 <taub>	$avg
Apr 09 10:06:49 <mpexbot>	taub: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 09 10:06:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.00361 = 0.1264 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:07:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0036 = 0.0072 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:07:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 12 @ 0.003301 = 0.0396 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:07:17 <taub>	$vwap
Apr 09 10:07:18 <mpexbot>	taub: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=LUS8vrji
Apr 09 10:07:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1000 @ 0.0033 = 3.3 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:07:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 90 @ 0.00321 = 0.2889 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:07:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 760 @ 0.0032 = 2.432 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:08:51 <ThickAsThieves>	hey i see options that dont exist yet!
Apr 09 10:08:58 <ThickAsThieves>	in that pastebin
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Apr 09 10:09:47 <ThickAsThieves>	hurry up Bug, before all the options are gone! ;)
Apr 09 10:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	it shows both the expired style and the current style
Apr 09 10:09:59 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Apr 09 10:10:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	because it still has data on the old ones
Apr 09 10:10:22 <ThickAsThieves>	got it
Apr 09 10:11:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99999999
Apr 09 10:11:00 <gribble>	There are currently 33781.073 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 432570432.615 USD in total. | Data vintage: 84.5329 seconds
Apr 09 10:11:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 09 10:11:04 <gribble>	There are currently 32087038 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13163031.4903 USD in total. | Data vintage: 87.4622 seconds
Apr 09 10:11:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 240
Apr 09 10:11:23 <gribble>	There are currently 4794.2223 bitcoins offered at or under 240.0 USD, worth 1076900.03865 USD in total. | Data vintage: 107.5441 seconds
Apr 09 10:11:26 <Bugpowder>	I don't have any more capital out of deep storage
Apr 09 10:11:38 <Bugpowder>	I shot my wad at the beginning of the month
Apr 09 10:11:43 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like we're poised to skyrocket
Apr 09 10:11:45 <Bugpowder>	and am holding till the end
Apr 09 10:11:57 <Bugpowder>	15% of net in calls.
Apr 09 10:12:03 <Bugpowder>	not going over.
Apr 09 10:12:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i've been buying daily pretty much
Apr 09 10:12:12 <Bugpowder>	except the calls are appreciating
Apr 09 10:12:22 <Bugpowder>	so now I'm way over
Apr 09 10:12:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00280001 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:12:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0028 = 4.2 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00270004 = 1.35 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:12:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00270003 = 2.7 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:12:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00270002 = 0.0081 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:12:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00270001 = 0.27 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:12:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 39397 @ 0.0027 = 106.3719 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:13:15 <ThickAsThieves>	tahts a lotta sdice
Apr 09 10:13:43 <Namworld>	Well not that much...
Apr 09 10:14:02 <Bugpowder>	oh man I lost so much money on seals
Apr 09 10:14:06 <Bugpowder>	last year
Apr 09 10:14:37 <Namworld>	yeah... I lost over 10 grand apparently
Apr 09 10:14:47 <Bugpowder>	>30k.
Apr 09 10:14:54 <Bugpowder>	oops
Apr 09 10:14:56 <Namworld>	eheh
Apr 09 10:15:03 <Bugpowder>	stupid veganhippie
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Apr 09 10:15:17 <Bugpowder>	I think I must have lost $10,000 in one hand against him
Apr 09 10:15:17 <Namworld>	next year it's gonna be >30 million for you
Apr 09 10:15:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0028 = 0.28 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:15:38 <Bugpowder>	I can only hope so
Apr 09 10:15:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00279 = 0.0279 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:15:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 34 @ 0.002781 = 0.0946 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:16:02 <Bugpowder>	Where are the big time holders of coins
Apr 09 10:16:07 <Bugpowder>	why are they not selling?
Apr 09 10:16:13 <Bugpowder>	or ARE they selling?
Apr 09 10:16:17 <Bugpowder>	and it doesn't matter
Apr 09 10:16:51 <Namworld>	I guess the occasional dip is it...
Apr 09 10:17:06 <KRS-1>	every day i look at the market figures i have to rub my eyes..doesnt make sense, thought it would have leveled out or dropped to an equilibrium
Apr 09 10:17:08 <Namworld>	Maybe there's just a lot more BTC lost forever than we thought...
Apr 09 10:17:31 <ThickAsThieves>	selling power has decreased a lot since 100
Apr 09 10:17:53 <Bugpowder>	we really need to revisit that blockchain analysis of dormant coin.
Apr 09 10:17:54 <ThickAsThieves>	remember how we had those big walls before 50, 80, 100
Apr 09 10:18:08 <Bugpowder>	pretty big wall at 200 too
Apr 09 10:18:09 <ThickAsThieves>	no longer
Apr 09 10:18:28 <ezdiy>	Bugpowder: only miners are selling imo :)
Apr 09 10:18:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 09 10:18:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 214.08541, Best ask: 214.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29459, Last trade: 214.38000, 24 hour volume: 107810.14057364, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 214.00000, 24 hour vwap: 191.10771
Apr 09 10:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 43 @ 0.2 = 8.6 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 10:19:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 240
Apr 09 10:19:17 <gribble>	There are currently 6178.7618 bitcoins offered at or under 240.0 USD, worth 1383401.83525 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds
Apr 09 10:19:22 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 09 10:19:22 <gribble>	There are currently 32307537 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13144217.9744 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.3656 seconds
Apr 09 10:19:51 <Bugpowder>	all this buying, and yet the bids continue to increase in values
Apr 09 10:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 103 @ 0.2 = 20.6 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:20:28 <ezdiy>	well, in theory
Apr 09 10:20:37 <ezdiy>	that'd put bitcoin at $3 :)
Apr 09 10:20:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 100000
Apr 09 10:20:50 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 11219765.0124 USD and would take the last price down to 36.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 112.1977 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 92.7004 seconds
Apr 09 10:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.21 = 1.26 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:21:17 <Bugpowder>	http://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=
Apr 09 10:21:21 <ThickAsThieves>	the thing is, if you are a big holder, youre better off selling in chunks
Apr 09 10:21:27 <Bugpowder>	looks like old coins are moving now..
Apr 09 10:21:30 <KRS-1>	ezdiy: thats lower than litecoin at the moment
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Apr 09 10:22:19 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug, what is that chart?
Apr 09 10:22:21 <ezdiy>	ThickAsThieves: just following the logic there are X billion of people on earth, so bitcoin must be sure worth Y
Apr 09 10:22:27 <ThickAsThieves>	"days destroyed"?
Apr 09 10:22:31 <ezdiy>	ThickAsThieves: by that logic, each coin would be worth $3 now :)
Apr 09 10:22:49 <ThickAsThieves>	ezdiy i dont know what you are referring to
Apr 09 10:22:50 <Bugpowder>	Bitcoin days destroyed for any given transaction is calculated by taking the number of Bitcoins in a transaction and multiplying it by the number of days it has been since those coins were last spent.
Apr 09 10:23:24 <ThickAsThieves>	weird
Apr 09 10:23:51 <ThickAsThieves>	lotsa days destroyed
Apr 09 10:23:55 <kakobrekla>	the problem is its not volume weighted
Apr 09 10:24:05 <kakobrekla>	i mean tx volume
Apr 09 10:24:07 <KRS-1>	$3 is lower than litcoin-> sell and buy ltc now
Apr 09 10:24:07 <kakobrekla>	not coin volume
Apr 09 10:24:08 <taub>	time to dump yo stash Bugpowder
Apr 09 10:24:15 <taub>	let me front run
Apr 09 10:24:24 <ezdiy>	KRS-1: i think there are 11m litecoins too or something like that
Apr 09 10:24:26 <KRS-1>	tollla lola lol
Apr 09 10:24:26 <Bugpowder>	I am a minnow
Apr 09 10:24:31 <ezdiy>	given that those are generated 4 times faster
Apr 09 10:24:36 <taub>	ah what
Apr 09 10:25:34 <ThickAsThieves>	litecoin is just a tool for bitcoin utility
Apr 09 10:25:45 <ThickAsThieves>	mine litecoin, sell for bitcoin
Apr 09 10:25:51 <ezdiy>	yup :)
Apr 09 10:25:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6025 @ 0.00068861 = 4.1489 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:26:15 <ThickAsThieves>	216
Apr 09 10:26:15 <MJR_>	has anyone looked at herbalife?
Apr 09 10:26:20 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 09 10:26:28 <MJR_>	that is the point of torbroker
Apr 09 10:26:35 <MJR_>	anonymity
Apr 09 10:26:35 <ThickAsThieves>	wtb snake oil
Apr 09 10:26:42 <MJR_>	oh i think they are a huge scam
Apr 09 10:26:47 <MJR_>	but inside info is inside info
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Apr 09 10:26:59 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 10:27:00 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 156.627681 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.313880119033 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
Apr 09 10:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	i looked at herbalife once when this stunning but obviously famished chick was trying to serll it door to door
Apr 09 10:27:07 <taub>	hold on to your hats
Apr 09 10:27:10 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 09 10:27:18 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: lol
Apr 09 10:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	fed the girl, discarded the crap, everyone happy ever after.
Apr 09 10:27:31 <MJR_>	hehehe, that is the right approach
Apr 09 10:27:34 <ThickAsThieves>	this lag is taking us upward methinks, rather than the usuall downward
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Apr 09 10:30:53 <jcpham>	there's no where to go but up
Apr 09 10:30:59 <jcpham>	surely you guys have caught on by now
Apr 09 10:31:11 <Bugpowder>	fastcash is out of money to buy
Apr 09 10:31:17 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Apr 09 10:33:52 <MJR_>	;;asks 250
Apr 09 10:33:52 <gribble>	There are currently 7660.0099 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 1787629.91563 USD in total. | Data vintage: 107.2681 seconds
Apr 09 10:34:05 <Bugpowder>	old coins ARE moving.  http://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed-min-year?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=
Apr 09 10:34:10 <MJR_>	;;asks 230
Apr 09 10:34:13 <gribble>	There are currently 3650.8952 bitcoins offered at or under 230.0 USD, worth 813546.641479 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds
Apr 09 10:34:25 <MJR_>	interesting statistic though
Apr 09 10:34:39 <MJR_>	because if they are dumping bad...if they are not hoarding good...so which will it be?
Apr 09 10:34:58 <Bugpowder>	well, seeing as the price is still going up and they are selling some coin off, I think its great
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Apr 09 10:35:08 <MJR_>	i agree
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Apr 09 10:35:09 <Bugpowder>	increasing the effective base
Apr 09 10:35:25 <Bugpowder>	more market participants
Apr 09 10:35:31 <Bugpowder>	move even distribution
Apr 09 10:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [-]
Apr 09 10:38:38 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
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Apr 09 10:38:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 218.37900, Best ask: 218.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00100, Last trade: 218.38000, 24 hour volume: 107587.39057991, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 218.37999, 24 hour vwap: 191.81253
Apr 09 10:38:52 <Scrat>	this is madness
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Apr 09 10:39:05 <ThickAsThieves>	nearly $30 difference between vwap and price
Apr 09 10:39:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess we need to start thinking % increase
Apr 09 10:39:24 <ThickAsThieves>	rather than dollars
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Apr 09 10:39:49 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 09 10:39:53 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230474 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1365 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8983388.21622 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.07791
Apr 09 10:40:03 <kakobrekla>	fyi http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php
Apr 09 10:40:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10125 @ 0.00068861 = 6.9722 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:40:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9965 @ 0.00070898 = 7.065 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:40:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6760 @ 0.00071145 = 4.8094 BTC [+]
Apr 09 10:40:23 <taub>	dont you love it when the data craps out
Apr 09 10:40:57 <kakobrekla>	we will be CPU mining soon at this rate
Apr 09 10:41:19 <Bugpowder>	yeah, I might turn the miner back on
Apr 09 10:41:26 <Bugpowder>	got a GH
Apr 09 10:42:19 <Bugpowder>	I liked getting woken up to bitcoinity playing a video, and then a message that the next funny gif would be revealed at $1000.
Apr 09 10:42:46 <taub>	6.00 5 minutes ago 218.38
Apr 09 10:42:54 <taub>	unacceptable
Apr 09 10:43:41 <taub>	i think mtgox is just manipulating price or is using the lag/pause to their advantages to front run etc
Apr 09 10:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	mkay. strikes up to 500 added
Apr 09 10:43:50 <kakobrekla>	:D
Apr 09 10:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	bot will be quoting on the next tick.
Apr 09 10:43:54 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 09 10:43:55 <Bugpowder>	YES!
Apr 09 10:44:05 <Bugpowder>	should I roll the calls over to 400s
Apr 09 10:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	supervised quoting so trades may be unwound.
Apr 09 10:44:15 <taub>	haha dont be too giddy
Apr 09 10:45:00 <jcpham>	none of this make sense anymore
Apr 09 10:45:06 <Bugpowder>	table formatting is whack
Apr 09 10:45:18 <jcpham>	btw mircea_popescu we're over 300k now in failed btc loans
Apr 09 10:45:23 <jcpham>	btc equivalent
Apr 09 10:45:28 <jcpham>	fiat whatever
Apr 09 10:45:41 <Namworld>	gox lag has been going for so long without being fixed it's fishy...
Apr 09 10:45:45 <MJR_>	euphoria is beginning to set in
Apr 09 10:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham who's we ?
Apr 09 10:45:54 <taub>	ye pnam
Apr 09 10:45:55 <jcpham>	more than  car, less than house is now more than a house
Apr 09 10:45:56 <MJR_>	just as bad as panic
Apr 09 10:45:57 <taub>	yep Namworld
Apr 09 10:45:58 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld seen the last on trilema ?
Apr 09 10:45:59 <jcpham>	the collective we
Apr 09 10:46:08 <jcpham>	me myself and i
Apr 09 10:46:22 <Namworld>	nay
Apr 09 10:46:46 <jcpham>	i mean you guys can't determine if there ar 6 of us scrambling like monkeys trading
Apr 09 10:46:52 <jcpham>	the entity you knows as "jcpham"
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Apr 09 10:47:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume jurov will need a day or two to add these new options to coinbr?
Apr 09 10:47:50 <jurov>	stfu. just came and looking on'em
Apr 09 10:47:52 <MJR_>	i wonder what percent of options expire worthless
Apr 09 10:48:05 <ThickAsThieves>	huh?
Apr 09 10:48:20 <MJR_>	"IRL" 90% of options expire worthless
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Apr 09 10:49:03 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves do tell me, why do you think it takes day or two?
Apr 09 10:49:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i have no idea
Apr 09 10:49:18 <ThickAsThieves>	i was just asking a q
Apr 09 10:49:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm no programmer
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Apr 09 10:49:54 <ThickAsThieves>	unless you count some HTML...
Apr 09 10:50:12 <ThickAsThieves>	are you saying it's much harder or easier than that?
Apr 09 10:50:48 <jurov>	O.o even if i hand-inputted sql statement for every mpsic, it would be less than a day
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Apr 09 10:51:09 <ThickAsThieves>	word, i thought it was pretty easy, wasnt trying to insult or anything
Apr 09 10:51:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i stil <3 you
Apr 09 10:51:36 <jurov>	oh sry i sounded out harsher than i meant to
Apr 09 10:51:58 <jurov>	no hard feelings, i was just wtf?
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Apr 09 10:52:36 <ThickAsThieves>	:) back to your regularly scheduled programming
Apr 09 10:52:44 <ThickAsThieves>	(pun intended)
Apr 09 10:53:08 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 09 10:53:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 218.39000, Best ask: 218.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 218.39000, 24 hour volume: 107667.08430243, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 218.38000, 24 hour vwap: 191.89077
Apr 09 10:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham this reminds me of the time george costanza + seinfeld decided they need like 3 of them to make up a guy enouygh to mate.
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Apr 09 10:57:34 <error4733>	;;calc 11000000*218
Apr 09 10:57:35 <gribble>	2398000000
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Apr 09 10:59:20 <Bugpowder>	Looks like handling the unfunded order book was a source of goxlag...  https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130409.html
Apr 09 11:00:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7749 BTC [+]
Apr 09 11:00:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder why they are waiting that many days to change it
Apr 09 11:01:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.775 = 9.3 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 11:01:44 <Scrat>	Bugpowder: LOL
Apr 09 11:01:45 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: quick question about DDOS, do you think an EC2 instance is prone to hardware failure in the networking aspect (it is easy to just bring up new instances of the server, but you had said the router is the point of failure)
Apr 09 11:01:47 <mircea_popescu>	well it was one of the things people said they liked,.
Apr 09 11:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ if you only expose it through their load balancer should be fine in most cases.
Apr 09 11:02:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7798 = 3.1192 BTC [+]
Apr 09 11:03:29 <Scrat>	dont you get to pay the (rather large) bill if you get ddos'ed on ec2?
Apr 09 11:03:34 <Scrat>	on outgoing traffic obviously
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Apr 09 11:04:00 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: that is what i was thinking, building out infrastructure now, and that came up...i'm a big fan of having instances running and waiting to be failed over to. Last design issue I wanted to think about is an "airgap" solution for something that is in the cloud...
Apr 09 11:04:13 <MJR_>	Scrat: DDOS is inbound
Apr 09 11:04:28 <MJR_>	Scrat: so as long as you don't respond to spam, you should be fine
Apr 09 11:05:02 <MJR_>	Scrat: but you will incur more costs as you bring up more servers to handle the CPU side of the DDOS, I was mostly worried about the network hardware side
Apr 09 11:05:22 <jurov>	All added to coinbr.
Apr 09 11:05:22 <Scrat>	MJR_: a smart attack targetted against ec2 would pull static assets with legit looking requests
Apr 09 11:05:35 <ThickAsThieves>	thx jurov
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Apr 09 11:06:14 <MJR_>	Scrat: i think btctc.co had an implementation to stop that, force a 3 second + redirect to the actual resource
Apr 09 11:06:33 <MJR_>	Scrat: or just only allow a certain number of logins per hour per account
Apr 09 11:06:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C272T] 5 @ 0.06780302 = 0.339 BTC
Apr 09 11:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 272 / .93
Apr 09 11:07:18 <gribble>	292.47311828
Apr 09 11:07:21 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 09 11:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 09 11:07:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 217.00000, Best ask: 218.50000, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 217.00000, 24 hour volume: 107667.08430243, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 218.38000, 24 hour vwap: 191.89077
Apr 09 11:07:32 <MJR_>	Scrat: a million ways to deal with traffic, as long as your router doesn't blow up
Apr 09 11:07:54 <MJR_>	but forcing them to blow up all of amazon in order to stop you is quite a barrier to entry
Apr 09 11:08:25 <Scrat>	MJR_: yeah I'm not saying otherwise, but in that case the objective of the attacker is to slap you with a $100k ec2 bill
Apr 09 11:08:26 <thestringpuller>	wow mircea_popescu that is a simple formula
Apr 09 11:08:54 <MJR_>	Scrat: I need to do more research, but it is outgoing that will run up the bill...you can throttle that based on a bunch of heuristics
Apr 09 11:09:14 <Scrat>	MJR_: it is, incoming traffic is free
Apr 09 11:09:30 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 09 11:09:31 <gribble>	191.14
Apr 09 11:09:33 <MJR_>	no legit user needs more than 1000 logins per hour...and you only allow legit traffic to pull the resource heavy outgoing data
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Apr 09 11:10:12 <Scrat>	don't need a session id to access say logo and css
Apr 09 11:10:18 <jurov>	MJR_, Scrat: I also have request limiter set up, caused regular users to get 503 error till i tuned it up
Apr 09 11:10:31 <MJR_>	obviously, you can stop non-legit users from creating accounts by having a funding requirement of 1btc etc...too costly to create the accounts, and why would you want to put all your coins into the hands of the guy you're attacking
Apr 09 11:11:26 <MJR_>	filtering legit users from spam is a lot easier than trying to stop traffic before it hits the router (actually impossible, it'll always hit SOME network device that you need)
Apr 09 11:13:26 <thestringpuller>	;;seen Bugpowder
Apr 09 11:13:26 <gribble>	Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 minutes and 4 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> Looks like handling the unfunded order book was a source of goxlag...  https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130409.html
Apr 09 11:15:22 <taub>	I sold
Apr 09 11:15:42 <taub>	cant be dealing with this laggy exchange
Apr 09 11:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 11:16:05 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 198.983512 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.398760730118 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 09 11:16:08 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 09 11:16:46 <Scrat>	taub: quantify sold
Apr 09 11:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/ how come nothing on last 2 gfx ?
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Apr 09 11:17:42 <kakobrekla>	started logging less than a week ago
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Apr 09 11:17:56 <taub>	well worse than the time lag is the fact that no data stream is working no way to see the order book and trades
Apr 09 11:17:57 <Bugpowder>	oh jesus bidwall
Apr 09 11:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	but look at the dates
Apr 09 11:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	4/03 you have data on some gfx not on others
Apr 09 11:18:16 <Scrat>	ThickAsThieves: whenever there's a rally payments stop :'(
Apr 09 11:18:19 <Bugpowder>	just cashed a bit more on fastcash
Apr 09 11:18:27 <kakobrekla>	dunno im guessing it will show up by itself
Apr 09 11:18:32 <Bugpowder>	should have locked it and waited to see if there was a dip
Apr 09 11:19:08 <kakobrekla>	ill see whats up with that if it doesnt
Apr 09 11:19:19 <kakobrekla>	whats the point of the 1mo chart now anyway
Apr 09 11:19:23 <Bugpowder>	where is the cancel button on Bitcoin-QT/
Apr 09 11:19:27 <kakobrekla>	if even a week is not full
Apr 09 11:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	not out of need, but since data should have been plotting and isn't i thought worth the mention
Apr 09 11:21:31 <deadweasel>	bug, where do you cash out?
Apr 09 11:21:40 <Bugpowder>	fastcash4bitcoins.com
Apr 09 11:21:45 <deadweasel>	thx
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Apr 09 11:22:18 <Bugpowder>	they pay under market, but its fast and easy and run by someone with a clue.
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Apr 09 11:23:47 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 11:23:48 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 327.08457 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.655473816059 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
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Apr 09 11:23:52 <taub>	\o/
Apr 09 11:26:10 <kakobrekla>	yeah its true mircea_popescu, something is acting up
Apr 09 11:26:15 <Bugpowder>	jesus... $14.1MM
Apr 09 11:26:22 <kakobrekla>	AND ITS NOT BITCOIN!
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Apr 09 11:27:50 <taub>	222.22 USD / BTC
Apr 09 11:30:01 <deadweasel>	nom nom nom
Apr 09 11:30:35 <punkman>	"Bitcoin is a tax on people who are bad at Byzantine fault tolerance."
Apr 09 11:30:55 <jurov>	and i thought it will abandon the parabolic(or even exponential) rise.. not yet
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Apr 09 11:34:13 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile in gold, http://bullmarketthinking.com/comex-gold-inventories-collapse-by-largest-amount-on-record/
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Apr 09 11:34:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C296T] 100 @ 0.05114951 = 5.115 BTC
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Apr 09 11:35:43 <pgp>	that gox press release was just as I suspected...  doing some sort of recursive credit check for unfunded orders...
Apr 09 11:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	what'd be recursive about it ?
Apr 09 11:37:03 <taub>	>Greece is considering slapping a .162 billion invoice on Germany as compensation for the Second World War.
Apr 09 11:37:06 <taub>	lmao
Apr 09 11:37:09 <Scrat>	pgp: I doubt thats the culprit. that would allow anyone to turn captchas into gox lag
Apr 09 11:37:19 <Scrat>	surprisingly stupid
Apr 09 11:37:28 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat they've done surprisingly stupid shit before.
Apr 09 11:37:28 <taub>	162b eur that is
Apr 09 11:37:41 <Namworld>	Do you have funds to fund the order? Yes. Do you have funds to fund the funds to fund the order? Yes. Repeat process 1 billion time on each order.
Apr 09 11:37:47 <Namworld>	You get gox lag.
Apr 09 11:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	eh that'
Apr 09 11:37:54 <mircea_popescu>	s not how it works
Apr 09 11:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	just have a process move order to active when funds clear
Apr 09 11:38:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.775 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:38:36 <Namworld>	lag is not how it's supposed to work either. They must be doing something wrong somewhere...
Apr 09 11:38:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7605 = 1.521 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	then again considering the string of insanities sturles was sprouting the other day, it wouldn't surprise me if they run it like that.
Apr 09 11:38:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C194T] 9 @ 0.20098104 = 1.8088 BTC
Apr 09 11:38:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7601 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:38:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:38:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75902 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:38:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75901 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:38:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75501 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.755 = 3.775 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.753 = 5.271 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.7503 = 11.2545 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.75 = 5.25 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74002 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.74001 = 8.8801 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.740003 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.740001 = 18.5 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:39:35 <Scrat>	assbot
Apr 09 11:39:37 <Scrat>	stahp
Apr 09 11:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol it worked
Apr 09 11:40:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7391 = 1.4782 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:40:10 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 09 11:40:16 <Bugpowder>	$14.6MM
Apr 09 11:41:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
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Apr 09 11:41:21 <gribble>	There are currently 32321686 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14630014.4001 USD in total. | Data vintage: 57.1659 seconds
Apr 09 11:41:24 <ThickAsThieves>	wow
Apr 09 11:41:49 <Bugpowder>	I think the number needs to go up to support the current price though
Apr 09 11:41:52 <Scrat>	that's the same 12 million amplified by the new exchange value
Apr 09 11:41:54 <pgp>	let's say that I have funded buys and sell in gox and unfunded buys and sell, doesn't an execution on one side force them to check all the orders on the other side for same person?
Apr 09 11:41:59 <Bugpowder>	the walls need to be higher
Apr 09 11:42:13 <Bugpowder>	errr, at a higher value
Apr 09 11:43:02 <pgp>	not really recursive, but a shitload required checking with every order and execution...
Apr 09 11:43:08 <jurov>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 09 11:43:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 110.64241833 / 147.74091471 / 182.77959828 (19650 shares, 4,629.08 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 09 11:43:12 <pgp>	no?
Apr 09 11:44:27 <jurov>	accrding to oix, practically all calls are deep in the money... feels sorry for bondholders
Apr 09 11:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	pgp why the fuck check ?
Apr 09 11:45:02 <jurov>	seems i can completely close MPBPT :(
Apr 09 11:45:06 <pgp>	question: with fastcash4bitcoins.com, isn't there an arb on that 15 min window when volatility is high?  kinda like a free put?
Apr 09 11:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	keep a process on the clearing side, just move things in the active bnook as funds clear
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Apr 09 11:46:37 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: as a representative of bondholders i request you to increase price on calls
Apr 09 11:46:56 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 09 11:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 09 11:46:58 <pgp>	mp: I agree they shouldn't, but if their system is built around the idea of allowing unfunded order to be promoted to funded orders, that would occur no just when money comed in or out, but for those making two sided markets as well...
Apr 09 11:47:06 <jurov>	:)
Apr 09 11:47:20 <mircea_popescu>	pgp i still don't see what changes. when money comes in order is moved into active.
Apr 09 11:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	there's nothing to check.
Apr 09 11:47:25 <Bugpowder>	pgp yes, though during high volatility the price gap increases
Apr 09 11:47:40 <Bugpowder>	its tough to beat him.
Apr 09 11:47:57 <pgp>	i see - you've tried, then?
Apr 09 11:48:15 <Bugpowder>	yeah a little.
Apr 09 11:48:18 <Bugpowder>	my friend is more anal about it
Apr 09 11:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	why not do something useful, rather than try and squeeze pennies out of a service
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Apr 09 11:49:19 <pgp>	I don't...  just was reading their t&c's...
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Apr 09 11:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:50:28 <jurov>	;;calc 215/(1-0.087)
Apr 09 11:50:29 <gribble>	235.487404162
Apr 09 11:51:01 <Bugpowder>	holdy fucking bidwall
Apr 09 11:51:02 <jurov>	^ mircea_popescu, but im serious. C215T may be in the money tomorrow as it looks
Apr 09 11:51:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C248T] 100 @ 0.10431071 = 10.4311 BTC
Apr 09 11:51:07 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 09 11:51:09 <gribble>	There are currently 32320610 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 16067341.6473 USD in total. | Data vintage: 53.9271 seconds
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Apr 09 11:51:21 <deadweasel>	holy crap 16 il
Apr 09 11:51:23 <Bugpowder>	C300T will be ITM tomorrow
Apr 09 11:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	well sure it may be in the money.
Apr 09 11:51:38 <mircea_popescu>	if calls couldn't make moneuy nobody would buy them
Apr 09 11:51:50 <jurov>	MPOE is exposing itself to undue risk, don't you think?
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Apr 09 11:52:14 <Bugpowder>	bot should also BUY calls
Apr 09 11:52:33 <Bugpowder>	at a higher price
Apr 09 11:52:50 <Bugpowder>	I recommend 0.8 for the C137Ts.
Apr 09 11:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.15267922 = 152.6792 BTC [-]
Apr 09 11:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C215T] 30 @ 0.15955155 = 4.7865 BTC
Apr 09 11:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	lolwut
Apr 09 11:53:27 <pgp>	mp: regardng gox.  If I have a funded buy order and an unfunded sell order for same amount and yet another unfunded buy order unde my funded buy order, then when first buy order gets triggered then sell order now becomes funded, no? and when sell gets executed the second buy order now become funded....
Apr 09 11:53:34 <kakobrekla>	o, wall
Apr 09 11:53:35 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Apr 09 11:53:36 <mircea_popescu>	jurov the risk is this : if price goes up, short calls lose money. if price goes down, they make money.
Apr 09 11:53:39 <mircea_popescu>	what's unde about that ?
Apr 09 11:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	pgp so what, have trade engine check with clearing ?
Apr 09 11:54:10 <jurov>	how many short calls are there, not many i daresay.
Apr 09 11:54:15 <mircea_popescu>	one'd have to be retarded to be like that.
Apr 09 11:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	jurov all calls the bot sells are short to the bot.
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Apr 09 11:55:57 <Enky>	;;ticker
Apr 09 11:56:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.50000, Best ask: 223.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 223.00000, 24 hour volume: 111105.23170259, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 223.76000, 24 hour vwap: 194.02951
Apr 09 11:56:06 <pgp>	mp: agreed gox is retarded - i'll bet that there system does funding check on every execution - it explains a lot and is consistent with their press release...
Apr 09 11:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	this is what you get when geeks get involved in software design.
Apr 09 11:56:32 <pgp>	an alternative explanation is that they run their matching engine on a commodore 64
Apr 09 11:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C248T] 10 @ 0.10489348 = 1.0489 BTC [+]
Apr 09 11:57:06 <deadweasel>	no surprise there
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Apr 09 11:58:13 <AndroUser2>	;;ticker
Apr 09 11:58:13 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 09 11:58:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.50000, Best ask: 223.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 223.00000, 24 hour volume: 111105.23170259, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 223.76000, 24 hour vwap: 194.02951
Apr 09 11:58:15 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 110.64241833 / 148.3968512 / 183.81305704 (19790 shares, 4,645.34 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 09 11:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.548 = 3.096 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 12:00:54 <jurov>	<mircea_popescu> jurov all calls the bot sells are short to the bot. <<< and thus to bondholders
Apr 09 12:01:01 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 09 12:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29349 @ 0.00069022 = 20.2573 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:01:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00070222 = 7.1626 BTC [+]
Apr 09 12:01:51 <jurov>	i mean, isn't it so unreasonable to assume March will possibly repeat, and do valuation adjustment?
Apr 09 12:02:02 <mircea_popescu>	why am i assuming ?
Apr 09 12:02:37 <jurov>	what you're assuming then?
Apr 09 12:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	nothing.
Apr 09 12:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	if we knew wtf is ghoing on we wouldn't need optioons in the fuirst place
Apr 09 12:03:25 <jurov>	two months in a row loss for MPOE bonds will cause having to cover them all yourself, can't we at least assume that as a baseline?
Apr 09 12:03:44 <jurov>	or are you sure this is very unlikely?
Apr 09 12:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure of anything tbh.
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Apr 09 12:05:28 <mircea_popescu>	what are you so aggitated about anyway, the oix is half puts
Apr 09 12:05:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.779 = 1.558 BTC [+]
Apr 09 12:06:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:07:24 <jurov>	i'm agitated about the call part of oix :)
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Apr 09 12:08:13 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov, it seems you are questioning mp for bonds you bought knowing the same trend already
Apr 09 12:08:16 <ThickAsThieves>	no?
Apr 09 12:08:25 <mircea_popescu>	ya but if you think about it, if options sold are half put half call by volume... what's gonna happen ?
Apr 09 12:08:28 <mircea_popescu>	they can't both win
Apr 09 12:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.54 = 15.4 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:09:19 <bgupta>	and remember because it's $ profits as calls move more and more into the money they have a built in profit limiter.
Apr 09 12:09:48 <jurov>	i didn't put much into bonds myself. but i'm being MPBPT operator here
Apr 09 12:10:02 <jurov>	and MPBPT May is not selling at all
Apr 09 12:10:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.15160246 = 151.6025 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 12:10:26 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm surprised APR sold
Apr 09 12:10:29 <Namworld>	the premium asked by the bot is already MUCH larger
Apr 09 12:10:40 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is going to get raped again.
Apr 09 12:11:58 <AndroUser2>	The tide will change though
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Apr 09 12:14:33 <jurov>	options sold are half put half call by volume, really? then it's okay, should have researched it before freaking out.
Apr 09 12:15:45 <ChaangNoi>	;;bids 0
Apr 09 12:15:48 <gribble>	There are currently 32320703 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 15982219.3621 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0107 seconds
Apr 09 12:16:00 <ChaangNoi>	16 million? fuck me
Apr 09 12:16:02 <AndroUser2>	Freaking out will only lead to impedements ;
Apr 09 12:16:24 <ChaangNoi>	we might hit 300 this week
Apr 09 12:16:31 <ChaangNoi>	asks 99999999999
Apr 09 12:16:42 <mircea_popescu>	jurov well it's what mpex.co main page says
Apr 09 12:16:44 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 99999999999
Apr 09 12:16:44 <gribble>	There are currently 33949.898 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 124147627774.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 56.7975 seconds
Apr 09 12:17:00 <ChaangNoi>	wow
Apr 09 12:17:06 <jcpham>	someone lit the fuse on the rocket a few weeks back
Apr 09 12:17:13 <jcpham>	i think it has 2 months of fuel left at least
Apr 09 12:17:17 <jcpham>	but that's me
Apr 09 12:17:18 <ChaangNoi>	its just now going into hyperdrive
Apr 09 12:17:42 <taub>	225 getting interesting
Apr 09 12:18:00 <jcpham>	500 tomorrow would be epicly interesting
Apr 09 12:18:10 <taub>	hah no way :)
Apr 09 12:18:12 <jcpham>	but that's more like next week
Apr 09 12:18:26 <AndroUser2>	;;bids 0
Apr 09 12:18:27 <gribble>	There are currently 32320982 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 15996422.2562 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.3289 seconds
Apr 09 12:18:36 <jcpham>	the market cap did just double in about 9 days
Apr 09 12:18:39 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 09 12:18:40 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 09 12:18:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 224.00000, Best ask: 224.48980, Bid-ask spread: 0.48980, Last trade: 224.48980, 24 hour volume: 109285.52746947, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 224.70000, 24 hour vwap: 195.30955
Apr 09 12:18:40 <jcpham>	if no one was paying attention
Apr 09 12:18:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 224.00000, Best ask: 224.48980, Bid-ask spread: 0.48980, Last trade: 224.48980, 24 hour volume: 109285.52746947, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 224.70000, 24 hour vwap: 195.30955
Apr 09 12:18:55 <ChaangNoi>	225?
Apr 09 12:18:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0007035 = 1.407 BTC [+]
Apr 09 12:18:57 <ThickAsThieves>	mp/jurov could you flush deposits?
Apr 09 12:19:14 <ChaangNoi>	and 500 is too much, over 1005 jump could happen but it would take a while to get a new ath
Apr 09 12:19:22 <ChaangNoi>	a while being 4 days or so, lol
Apr 09 12:19:24 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 250
Apr 09 12:19:24 <gribble>	There are currently 5912.9431 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 1410255.58397 USD in total. | Data vintage: 69.2906 seconds
Apr 09 12:19:37 <ChaangNoi>	;;aks 500
Apr 09 12:19:38 <gribble>	Error: "aks" is not a valid command.
Apr 09 12:19:40 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 200
Apr 09 12:19:40 <gribble>	There are currently 20728.936 bitcoins demanded at or over 200.0 USD, worth 4370048.45664 USD in total. | Data vintage: 85.1904 seconds
Apr 09 12:19:45 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 500
Apr 09 12:19:46 <gribble>	There are currently 16400.756 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 4935155.15891 USD in total. | Data vintage: 90.9606 seconds
Apr 09 12:19:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C047T] 4 @ 0.76327969 = 3.0531 BTC [+]
Apr 09 12:19:56 <ChaangNoi>	5 million to 500
Apr 09 12:20:02 <jurov>	not yet, i just sent some deposits over to mpex
Apr 09 12:20:10 <ChaangNoi>	but the day traders...
Apr 09 12:20:11 <Namworld>	I wonder when we'll be at the "IT'S OVER 9000!!!" point... with everyone repeating that of course.
Apr 09 12:20:13 <taub>	Until recently, anyone could place a buy or sell order for Bitcoin, regardless of how much funds were actually available in their wallet, resulting in an order showing a "Not enough funds" error status in the Open Orders list.
Apr 09 12:20:17 <taub>	Starting on April 17th, this counter productive scenario will no longer be possible and will be automatically rejected before validating your order; until you have enough funds in your wallet to match the order value.
Apr 09 12:20:20 <Namworld>	Certainly not during this rally
Apr 09 12:20:21 <taub>	i called it
Apr 09 12:20:24 <taub>	so called it
Apr 09 12:20:24 <ChaangNoi>	how are my calls looking 218 and im in the money, fuck yeah
Apr 09 12:20:29 <Namworld>	Maybe in a few years tho
Apr 09 12:20:30 <taub>	that's whats causing the lag
Apr 09 12:20:31 <ChaangNoi>	and we still ahve weeks to go, lol
Apr 09 12:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.53000001 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:21:14 <jurov>	btw if someone is funding coinbr with large sum and i'm around, ask me for direct deposit to mpex
Apr 09 12:21:29 <Namworld>	If I had been putting ALL my money in calls each month since the beggining I'd probably have like 20k BTC by now or something >.>
Apr 09 12:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	or nothing.
Apr 09 12:21:42 <ChaangNoi>	225
Apr 09 12:21:45 <Namworld>	or nothing =P
Apr 09 12:21:50 <ChaangNoi>	for real this time
Apr 09 12:21:55 <Namworld>	Which is exactly why I didn't buy...
Apr 09 12:21:56 <ThickAsThieves>	will do jurov
Apr 09 12:22:11 <Namworld>	of course if people knew it wasn't going to crash during the month, people would buy more of them
Apr 09 12:22:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i have a 2nd large deposit already going to you tho
Apr 09 12:22:22 <mircea_popescu>	whatever happened to that dude was going to short mpoe last ?
Apr 09 12:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 24 @ 0.21 = 5.04 BTC [+]
Apr 09 12:26:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C212N] 4 @ 0.39140833 = 1.5656 BTC
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Apr 09 12:27:03 <KRS-1>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 12:27:04 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 121.32087 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.243125665104 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 09 12:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.2222225 = 0.8889 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:28:21 <AndroUser2>	taub, mtgox is changing their order system on the 17th?
Apr 09 12:28:24 <jcpham>	anyone shorting anything in bitcoinland is probably burned
Apr 09 12:28:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C320N] 1 @ 0.24445838 BTC
Apr 09 12:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2222 = 0.6666 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.2222 = 1.3332 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:29:08 *	pizzaman1337 shorts USD
Apr 09 12:29:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 09 12:29:20 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230487 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1352 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 33 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8970854.58548 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.91457
Apr 09 12:29:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00070866 = 4.1811 BTC [+]
Apr 09 12:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9333 @ 0.00071 = 6.6264 BTC [+]
Apr 09 12:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.221 = 0.663 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:30:44 <thestringpuller>	;;seen Bugpowder
Apr 09 12:30:44 <gribble>	Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 37 minutes and 53 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> I recommend 0.8 for the C137Ts.
Apr 09 12:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.06600001 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:31:06 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: did you push to smickles?
Apr 09 12:32:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.22 = 1.32 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 24 @ 0.21 = 5.04 BTC [+]
Apr 09 12:33:19 <ll>	!t m s.dice
Apr 09 12:33:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00276292 / 0.00333327 (51603 shares, 142.58 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00309136 / 0.00400173 (503326 shares, 1,555.97 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00361436 / 0.006 (1689030 shares, 6,104.77 BTC)
Apr 09 12:34:02 <KRS-1>	;;quotes
Apr 09 12:34:03 <gribble>	Error: "quotes" is not a valid command.
Apr 09 12:34:38 <KRS-1>	;;ticker
Apr 09 12:34:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 227.00000, Best ask: 227.85990, Bid-ask spread: 0.85990, Last trade: 227.85990, 24 hour volume: 109285.52746947, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 224.70000, 24 hour vwap: 195.30955
Apr 09 12:35:43 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 09 12:35:54 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 09 12:35:57 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 09 12:36:01 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Apr 09 12:36:02 <gribble>	197.23
Apr 09 12:36:11 <thestringpuller>	oh
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Apr 09 12:39:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.741 = 1.482 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:39:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 120 @ 0.47411495 = 56.8938 BTC [+]
Apr 09 12:39:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 10 @ 0.47411495 = 4.7411 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 12:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C302T] 1000 @ 0.06147506 = 61.4751 BTC
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Apr 09 12:41:38 <error4733>	"i short btc @ 35$"  poor poor guy
Apr 09 12:41:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C305T] 100 @ 0.05949934 = 5.9499 BTC
Apr 09 12:41:47 <error4733>	worst timing EVER
Apr 09 12:41:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.13928 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:42:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:43:27 <gesell>	buy ask walls on bitcoinity dont match actual orderbook (as compared with clarkmoody)
Apr 09 12:43:40 <gesell>	shows a huge 8k btc wall at 212.13 that isnt in the order books
Apr 09 12:44:16 <gesell>	oh wait
Apr 09 12:44:20 <gesell>	found it in the order books
Apr 09 12:44:35 <gesell>	212.11 for 9k btc
Apr 09 12:45:01 <gesell>	thats a $2million order
Apr 09 12:45:11 <gesell>	bid
Apr 09 12:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 09 12:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	two clicks iof the button
Apr 09 12:46:20 <pgp>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 09 12:46:21 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 09 12:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.22000001 = 0.44 BTC [+]
Apr 09 12:47:15 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 09 12:47:16 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00065356 / 0.00068704 / 0.00071145 (560512 shares, 385.10 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00068728 / 0.00071514 (2019787 shares, 1,388.17 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068919 / 0.00077505 (9481307 shares, 6,534.43 BTC)
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Apr 09 12:49:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 165 @ 0.11711 = 19.3232 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:49:53 <KRS-1>	;;ticker
Apr 09 12:49:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 225.00000, Best ask: 225.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.99999, Last trade: 225.99999, 24 hour volume: 102831.28291584, 24 hour low: 178.00100, 24 hour high: 227.86018, 24 hour vwap: 198.06245
Apr 09 12:50:13 *	BTCOxygen|1 is now known as BTCOxygen
Apr 09 12:51:16 <TomServo>	Will one of you whales crash this thing already? This is absurd.
Apr 09 12:52:30 <ThickAsThieves>	Just put some low strike options for sale under bot prices, if anyone is interested
Apr 09 12:52:54 <ThickAsThieves>	86s thru 122s
Apr 09 12:54:07 <mircea_popescu>	how come i don't see them ?!
Apr 09 12:54:11 <gesell>	TomServo: the wales are pumping it still
Apr 09 12:56:09 <ThickAsThieves>	coinbr says "queued"
Apr 09 12:56:10 <gesell>	i doubt a whale could crash it either. the best you could hope for is a ddos :P
Apr 09 12:56:18 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
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Apr 09 12:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;sell 50000
Apr 09 12:57:15 <gribble>	(sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include (1 more message)
Apr 09 12:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 09 12:57:37 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov, not sure if you're aware already but I have some sell orders that seem to be hung up
Apr 09 12:57:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 50000
Apr 09 12:57:54 <gribble>	A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 9392456.7823 USD and would take the last price down to 135.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 187.8491 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 60.1194 seconds
Apr 09 12:57:55 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: you have to add the amount and price ;)
Apr 09 12:58:01 <gesell>	then we'll watch it fall
Apr 09 12:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.041 = 3.123 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:58:09 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves:  yes moment found some issue and debugging it
Apr 09 12:58:14 <ThickAsThieves>	sweet
Apr 09 12:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	i dont recall what the command is, but it tells you where priceends up
Apr 09 12:58:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 15 @ 0.00021 = 0.0032 BTC [-]
Apr 09 12:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	i'll bet you a 50k btc straight sell takes it under 100 atm
Apr 09 12:58:40 <ThickAsThieves>	its right up there mp ^
Apr 09 12:58:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 50000
Apr 09 12:58:44 <gribble>	A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 9392456.7823 USD and would take the last price down to 135.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 187.8491 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 110.0784 seconds
Apr 09 12:58:49 <gesell>	when has there been a 50k sell?
Apr 09 12:59:35 <ThickAsThieves>	if someone dropped 50k coins, buyers would be ecstatic
Apr 09 12:59:41 <Namworld>	last crash from 33 USD to peanuts?
Apr 09 12:59:47 <Namworld>	was a hack but anyway
Apr 09 13:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	ah ok
Apr 09 13:00:45 <mircea_popescu>	im not sure if ecstatic or paniced.
Apr 09 13:00:52 <TomServo>	Then it'll really crash when Gox can't pay out. ;)
Apr 09 13:01:05 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Apr 09 13:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	"o, just some checking"
Apr 09 13:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	"our dwolla ran away with the tradehill"
Apr 09 13:01:24 <mircea_popescu>	"we must wake up the developers"
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Apr 09 13:03:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.0007035 = 0.0704 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:04:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.011 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:05:09 <ThickAsThieves>	ok the options i have for sale should be showing now
Apr 09 13:05:19 <gesell>	dont know if anyone is interested but speculating on the utility of bitcoin pre-2013 and putting SR at the top of the list... basing utility worth on yearly revenue would put btc at $1.6 per coin. It held actually around this value this until speculation started to flow in. bubble, craash... settled back to around $3 for the year and up to $13 before end of 2012. Putting price of bitcoin as a function of utility + speculation where speculation is one of 
Apr 09 13:05:24 <ThickAsThieves>	86-122
Apr 09 13:05:28 <gesell>	bullshit im sure but didnt know if anyone would be itnerested
Apr 09 13:05:58 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: would you mind highlighting me when you flush deposits? Thanks
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Apr 09 13:08:56 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 i see a ton of unconfirmed stuff
Apr 09 13:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	pray to the miner gods
Apr 09 13:09:24 <ThickAsThieves>	oh miner gods, where for art thou
Apr 09 13:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	gesell assuymption is broken
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Apr 09 13:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	sr wasn't at the tiop of the list since 2011
Apr 09 13:10:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.0007035 = 4.3617 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:10:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.45 = 7.25 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:10:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 15 @ 1.41 = 21.15 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:10:45 <gesell>	sorting order for orderbook on clarkmoody is messed up. (sorts in descending order: 212.0 212.9 212.8 ... 212.1 211.0)
Apr 09 13:11:02 <AndroUser2>	;;ticker
Apr 09 13:11:04 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
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Apr 09 13:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:13:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C308T] 100 @ 0.05923571 = 5.9236 BTC
Apr 09 13:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 1.41 = 19.74 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:14:52 <Bugpowder>	Havelock almost back to IPO price
Apr 09 13:16:58 <Namworld>	all these things will keep going down...
Apr 09 13:17:58 <mircea_popescu>	wait
Apr 09 13:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker h him
Apr 09 13:18:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.41000000 / 1.55749155 / 1.89000000 (71 shares, 110.58190010 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.75401928 / 2.04400000 (166 shares, 291.16720010 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.8343251 / 2.08000000 (733 shares, 1344.56029840 BTC)
Apr 09 13:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	eh
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Apr 09 13:22:24 <Bugpowder>	OH SHIT
Apr 09 13:22:40 <Bugpowder>	I guesss the wall got impatient
Apr 09 13:22:55 <taub>	holy shit
Apr 09 13:22:56 <jborkl_>	235
Apr 09 13:23:12 <jborkl_>	237
Apr 09 13:23:18 <jborkl_>	239
Apr 09 13:23:22 <Bugpowder>	its gotta be that wall
Apr 09 13:23:28 <Bugpowder>	of $2MM
Apr 09 13:23:31 <Bugpowder>	well
Apr 09 13:23:33 <Bugpowder>	maybe not
Apr 09 13:23:36 <Bugpowder>	we will see soon!
Apr 09 13:23:53 <jborkl_>	223
Apr 09 13:24:13 <Bugpowder>	looks like the wall bought half
Apr 09 13:24:19 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 09 13:24:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 223.76020, Best ask: 231.99870, Bid-ask spread: 8.23850, Last trade: 223.76020, 24 hour volume: 101197.60668312, 24 hour low: 178.00100, 24 hour high: 227.86018, 24 hour vwap: 198.89449
Apr 09 13:24:51 <Scrat>	wat
Apr 09 13:24:56 <Scrat>	;;ticker --last
Apr 09 13:24:58 <gribble>	239.11100
Apr 09 13:24:59 <jborkl_>	239
Apr 09 13:25:12 <jborkl_>	its all over the place now
Apr 09 13:25:29 <jborkl_>	sockets are crashing
Apr 09 13:25:39 <Bugpowder>	yep.  Confirmed
Apr 09 13:25:49 <Bugpowder>	Wall at 212 cut in half
Apr 09 13:26:26 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 340
Apr 09 13:26:28 <gribble>	There are currently 9616.2331 bitcoins offered at or under 340.0 USD, worth 2618836.03002 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Apr 09 13:26:55 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: Remember "20 is a bifurcation point..." ?
Apr 09 13:27:30 <ChaangNo_>	wpw
Apr 09 13:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	20 thousands!!1
Apr 09 13:28:59 <Bugpowder>	168MM market cap for S.MPOE
Apr 09 13:29:06 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --last
Apr 09 13:29:07 <gribble>	229.77000
Apr 09 13:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.42 = 7.1 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 13:36:46 <tiberiusiv>	bugpoder fake market cap you mean
Apr 09 13:37:55 <tiberiusiv>	has the coinlab plan been a failure?
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Apr 09 13:39:12 <pizzaman1337>	;;tslb
Apr 09 13:39:15 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 hour and 5 seconds
Apr 09 13:39:20 <pizzaman1337>	what?
Apr 09 13:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.248899 = 1.2445 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:40:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 162 @ 0.2489 = 40.3218 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2221 = 0.4442 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.22000006 = 0.66 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:43:06 <pizzaman1337>	;;tslb
Apr 09 13:43:11 <gribble>	Time since last block: 2 minutes and 11 seconds
Apr 09 13:43:37 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 09 13:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00276292 / 0.00333327 (51603 shares, 142.58 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00309136 / 0.00400173 (503326 shares, 1,555.97 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00358308 / 0.006 (1666530 shares, 5,971.32 BTC)
Apr 09 13:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 32 @ 0.22 = 7.04 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:45:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00270001 = 0.54 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.234 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:48:55 <MJR_>	yay new ath
Apr 09 13:49:18 <MJR_>	quick question, and this may seem stupid
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Apr 09 13:49:49 <MJR_>	with socket.io, a client web page would request the socket.io client library from the server...
Apr 09 13:50:36 <MJR_>	to clarify, the client's browser would request that library and then load it...but if you are not in control of the server, how do you know where to get the client library from?
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Apr 09 13:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.41 = 8.46 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.269 = 0.538 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:55:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00153 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19821 @ 0.00070415 = 13.957 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:55:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7822 @ 0.00071 = 5.5536 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:55:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00153 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:55:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00279 = 0.0279 BTC [+]
Apr 09 13:55:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 80 @ 0.00152 = 0.1216 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 13:56:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.002781 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:56:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.002781 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:56:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 70 @ 0.0027 = 0.189 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:56:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 59 @ 0.00261 = 0.154 BTC [-]
Apr 09 13:56:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 129 @ 0.0026 = 0.3354 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 14:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.22 = 0.44 BTC [-]
Apr 09 14:01:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Apr 09 14:01:27 <gribble>	Time since last block: 8 minutes and 10 seconds
Apr 09 14:01:59 <deadweasel>	should i  let my 188s expire or sell?
Apr 09 14:02:18 <mircea_popescu>	always the question.
Apr 09 14:02:19 <jcpham>	i think 188 isn't happening again anytime soon
Apr 09 14:02:21 <AndroUser2>	Keep them a bit
Apr 09 14:02:26 <jcpham>	but what do i know
Apr 09 14:02:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C302T] 100 @ 0.06611514 = 6.6115 BTC [+]
Apr 09 14:02:34 <unbalanced_>	MJR_: a common use case is socket.io goes on your server and in your own client web page
Apr 09 14:02:42 <unbalanced_>	Your code at both ends.
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Apr 09 14:02:46 <jcpham>	i wouldn't have payed 188 yesterday if i thought we'd see it again
Apr 09 14:02:47 <AndroUser2>	Ive got a few too :)
Apr 09 14:03:10 <mod6>	wth is going on
Apr 09 14:03:20 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu i payed 188 yesterday and almost got sick about it
Apr 09 14:03:25 <jcpham>	not feeling so bad today though
Apr 09 14:03:52 <jcpham>	i'll be priced out soon if i don't keep up
Apr 09 14:03:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00322 BTC [-]
Apr 09 14:04:01 <mircea_popescu>	heh
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Apr 09 14:04:33 <jcpham>	little guys can't even play with the big kids in the pool
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Apr 09 14:04:56 <Bugpowder>	sell pressure building
Apr 09 14:05:05 <Bugpowder>	I think we have reached the top for the day.
Apr 09 14:05:09 <gesell>	can someone tell me what that huge order was in the past 30 min????
Apr 09 14:05:12 <Bugpowder>	see at 250 tomorrow
Apr 09 14:05:13 <gesell>	how much was it for?
Apr 09 14:05:19 <Bugpowder>	It for $1M
Apr 09 14:05:20 <Doffx>	5000+
Apr 09 14:05:25 <Bugpowder>	half of the bidwall at 212
Apr 09 14:05:32 <gesell>	bingo
Apr 09 14:05:36 <gesell>	that is what i wanted to know
Apr 09 14:06:01 <Doffx>	5159.98 x 230 per
Apr 09 14:06:09 <gesell>	Bugpowder: did you see it get moved? how close to the edge of the wall was it moved before being eaten up, Or did he just move it directly to the other wal?
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Apr 09 14:07:07 <AndroUser2>	;;ticker
Apr 09 14:07:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.62376, Best ask: 237.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.32624, Last trade: 237.62376, 24 hour volume: 106406.95928128, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 239.11100, 24 hour vwap: 202.27481
Apr 09 14:07:40 <unbalanced_>	MJR_: your server code could talk via APIs to anything it wants. In theory the client could too. Mix and match communication with different end points as your app requires.
Apr 09 14:08:20 <gesell>	btw, anyone know of an api for bitcoin.de. have people that use my tools asking for support for this exchange but cant find any api documentation (though bitcoincharts must get it somehow)
Apr 09 14:08:23 <unbalanced_>	I'm not an export though.
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Apr 09 14:10:03 <ThickAsThieves>	still no confirms on mpex deposits?
Apr 09 14:11:21 <TomServo>	Bugpowder | I think we have reached the top for the day. << 5 mins later, new top.  Sillyness.
Apr 09 14:11:40 <kakobrekla>	is why he quit.
Apr 09 14:12:18 <pgp>	even for the most bullish among us - gotta admit that this seems a bit scary....
Apr 09 14:12:52 <TomServo>	I agree.
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Apr 09 14:12:55 <taub>	ya
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Apr 09 14:13:32 <deadweasel>	no way, this is thrilling, my moneys out + x2 profit.
Apr 09 14:14:10 <deadweasel>	let it crash, i'll buy in again with profits
Apr 09 14:14:17 <taub>	i'm expecting big ask walls to come out of the wood works any minute now
Apr 09 14:14:35 <taub>	like back in $93
Apr 09 14:14:42 <mircea_popescu>	you know... obviously it would have been better if this happened slowly, over the course of a year.
Apr 09 14:14:46 <mircea_popescu>	but what ever is reasonable ?
Apr 09 14:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	come to think about it, the evolution of BTC mimicks the evolution of s.mpoe.
Apr 09 14:15:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00071 = 0.781 BTC [+]
Apr 09 14:15:05 <pgp>	no precedent for something like this, i suppose...
Apr 09 14:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	itstarted at 0.00002, went to 0.004 within a fewe mionths
Apr 09 14:15:16 <jborkl_>	400*240
Apr 09 14:15:20 <mircea_popescu>	and it's been sorta there since then
Apr 09 14:15:42 <zinodaur>	mircea, care-i treaba :p
Apr 09 14:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	maybe btc does a similar number. runs up to 1k or w/e, then spends a year there.
Apr 09 14:15:55 <mircea_popescu>	zinodaur bine.
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Apr 09 14:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 09 14:16:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 239.00001, Best ask: 239.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.97999, Last trade: 239.98000, 24 hour volume: 106856.63799052, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 239.11100, 24 hour vwap: 202.50570
Apr 09 14:16:25 <zinodaur>	de prin ce parte a tarii o arzi ? :)
Apr 09 14:16:29 <mircea_popescu>	that was an ath.
Apr 09 14:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	zinodaur timisoara.
Apr 09 14:16:37 <zinodaur>	ah.
Apr 09 14:16:42 <jborkl_>	240
Apr 09 14:16:54 <mircea_popescu>	ye
Apr 09 14:16:59 <taub>	price seems to know only one way
Apr 09 14:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	159.62 	2 minutes ago 	240.00
Apr 09 14:17:12 <kakobrekla>	its good to be the king.
Apr 09 14:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	im like... o wait, that's like... a house ? cool.
Apr 09 14:17:19 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 14:17:20 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 264.997942 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.531052908703 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 09 14:17:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00071 = 13.348 BTC [+]
Apr 09 14:17:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P308T] 1 @ 0.89573103 BTC
Apr 09 14:17:44 <taub>	i dont hold any btc right now
Apr 09 14:17:52 <taub>	not nervous yet
Apr 09 14:18:25 <zinodaur>	christ
Apr 09 14:18:30 <taub>	oh 5 min lag here we go, if i had btc i'd start to get nervous now
Apr 09 14:18:33 <zinodaur>	it'd be a dream to stabilise at 250 :p
Apr 09 14:18:33 <taub>	:s
Apr 09 14:18:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00069 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
Apr 09 14:18:56 <kakobrekla>	zinodaur sell at 250 and it will be stable there
Apr 09 14:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 09 14:19:31 <iz>	;;ticker
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Apr 09 14:19:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 239.00001, Best ask: 240.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99999, Last trade: 240.00000, 24 hour volume: 106856.63799052, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 239.11100, 24 hour vwap: 202.50570
Apr 09 14:20:03 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 09 14:20:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 238.10000, Best ask: 239.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 238.10000, 24 hour volume: 106856.63799052, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 239.11100, 24 hour vwap: 202.50570
Apr 09 14:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	there's like 5 txs to mpex have been waiting to be confirmed for > 2 hours by now
Apr 09 14:20:21 <mircea_popescu>	i guess people are learning the value of keeping your btc on mpex ?
Apr 09 14:20:27 <deadweasel>	lol 240
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Apr 09 14:20:29 <unbalanced_>	Virtex at $289 CAD...
Apr 09 14:20:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C248T] 10 @ 0.13299188 = 1.3299 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 14:21:17 <taub>	bleeeed
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Apr 09 14:25:25 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 14:25:26 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 262.702221 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.526452309523 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 09 14:26:42 <deadweasel>	s.dice......  :(
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Apr 09 14:28:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000685 = 0.0069 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 14:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.04000001 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 14:32:04 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 09 14:32:11 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 203.29
Apr 09 14:32:30 <deadweasel>	yay :)
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Apr 09 14:33:53 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Apr 09 14:33:57 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230495 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1344 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8910584.56432 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.12908
Apr 09 14:34:56 <unbalanced_>	Listen, I don't want to alarm anyone, but I think we may be heading towards bubble territory soon. Just sayin'.
Apr 09 14:35:03 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 14:35:04 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 248.891458 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.498775695104 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 09 14:35:32 <deadweasel>	unbalanced_: i am not alarmed.
Apr 09 14:36:09 <Doffx>	OMG I am alarmed!
Apr 09 14:36:18 <deadweasel>	this is expected.  in that i expected antything at any moment.
Apr 09 14:36:26 <deadweasel>	still do
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Apr 09 14:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.269 BTC [+]
Apr 09 14:37:07 <deadweasel>	will retrace tonight, or not, then up around 4am EST
Apr 09 14:37:22 <Doffx>	Maybe the BTC price will surpass my Bubbled mortgage
Apr 09 14:37:29 <Doffx>	and I can pay it off with bubbled BTC
Apr 09 14:37:36 <deadweasel>	i hope so!
Apr 09 14:37:42 <Doffx>	Me too.
Apr 09 14:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ ity's not even 3x the previous enfoced plateau
Apr 09 14:38:39 <taub>	gonna be a long night...
Apr 09 14:38:49 <taub>	everbody calls ia bubble now pretty much
Apr 09 14:39:00 <taub>	how long can this go on, with peple being anxious to big moves in either side
Apr 09 14:39:37 <Namworld>	everyone in these channels (which have been around for a long time) call it a bubble. Some have been for a long time
Apr 09 14:39:46 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 09 14:39:48 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 203.69
Apr 09 14:39:48 <kakobrekla>	since 30
Apr 09 14:39:52 <Namworld>	While on places like MtGox, LocalBitcoins, etc
Apr 09 14:39:59 <unbalanced_>	Dudes, I was being facetious. https://www.google.ca/search?q=facetious
Apr 09 14:40:01 <Namworld>	tons of newbies flocks by the ton to buy...
Apr 09 14:40:23 <unbalanced_>	This is like high school all over again. Nobody understands me... :)
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Apr 09 14:41:08 <tiberiusiv>	if everyone is calling it a bubble then it isnt one
Apr 09 14:41:49 <Doffx>	I think we see 1000 before this ends at this rate.
Apr 09 14:41:49 <Namworld>	nah, not everyone calls it so
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Apr 09 14:42:19 <Namworld>	I was wondering if we'd reach 100, I said, we just have to reach 100 before it pops...
Apr 09 14:42:24 *	zinodaur anyone need any graphic work ? logos, design, illustrations. http://zinodaur.com pm me :)
Apr 09 14:42:24 <Doffx>	And if BTC reakky gets adopted completely well beyond 1000.
Apr 09 14:42:27 <Namworld>	now we're like way over...
Apr 09 14:42:29 <unbalanced_>	According to Dr. Rodrigue, the "media attention" phase we're in now is just The Beginning of the run-up: http://i.imgur.com/iMjfGf7.jpg
Apr 09 14:42:29 <Doffx>	really*
Apr 09 14:42:35 <Namworld>	If it reach 1000 I'll go nuts
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Apr 09 14:43:52 <Namworld>	but compared to the mean, we should be way lower and are almost moving vertically over it
Apr 09 14:44:03 <Namworld>	We're like at greed/delusion
Apr 09 14:44:47 <Doffx>	Well, 3 months ago if you said BTC will be at 240 id would have called you nutts.
Apr 09 14:44:47 <unbalanced_>	it's just starting to verticalize(TM) on log charts.
Apr 09 14:44:56 <MJR_>	benkay?
Apr 09 14:45:01 <Doffx>	Happened so fast.
Apr 09 14:45:59 <Namworld>	Look the 365 exponential moving average
Apr 09 14:46:05 <Namworld>	365 days
Apr 09 14:46:06 <Namworld>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#tgSza1gEMAzm1g365zm2g21
Apr 09 14:46:17 <Namworld>	it's slowly moving up...
Apr 09 14:46:33 <Namworld>	but the current price is just bending the line crazily
Apr 09 14:46:46 <Namworld>	and is way, way over
Apr 09 14:47:10 <Namworld>	It's not like bitcoin businesses can grow and develop overnight
Apr 09 14:47:23 <Namworld>	That price rise is speculative from flocking "investors"
Apr 09 14:47:25 <deadweasel>	specul;ators can tho
Apr 09 14:47:31 <Namworld>	not true adoption
Apr 09 14:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld how do you know it's not investors catching up with adoption ?
Apr 09 14:47:59 <deadweasel>	don't, i will hold minus 5% profit leak at intervals
Apr 09 14:48:34 <deadweasel>	the rest of the process be damned.
Apr 09 14:48:41 <Namworld>	Seems odd...
Apr 09 14:48:53 <Namworld>	It's usually the other way around...
Apr 09 14:48:58 <InstantBTC>	mircea_popescu, interesting point but I agree with namworld
Apr 09 14:48:58 <deadweasel>	if it ain't broke...
Apr 09 14:49:10 <Namworld>	maybe but... I don't think that's the case
Apr 09 14:49:29 <InstantBTC>	what I see is the buying wall shrinking
Apr 09 14:49:30 <taub>	I don't see the adoption yet
Apr 09 14:49:41 <taub>	i see a lot of sites accepting donations with bitcoins tho
Apr 09 14:49:45 <deadweasel>	you adopted it
Apr 09 14:49:46 <InstantBTC>	taub, there actually has been a lot of adoption
Apr 09 14:49:47 <taub>	so that's some sign
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Apr 09 14:50:09 <InstantBTC>	e-gov is letting citizens in e-gov areas pay for things with bitcoin now
Apr 09 14:50:18 <InstantBTC>	I think that's probably the biggest adoption this week
Apr 09 14:50:25 <taub>	when you can buy tf2 hats on steam with bitcoins we're going to am illion per coin lol
Apr 09 14:50:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 09 14:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	InstantBTC i see both arguments
Apr 09 14:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	the problem is partitioning reality among them
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Apr 09 14:51:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.395 = 0.79 BTC [-]
Apr 09 14:51:11 <InstantBTC>	I don't think tf2 hats have a strong enough influence on... any economy to make anything worth 1 million lol
Apr 09 14:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	he was being funny.
Apr 09 14:52:06 <InstantBTC>	ah. now I see what the other guy in #bitcoin-otc meant by get sarcasm detector working before coming here lol
Apr 09 14:53:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.779 = 1.558 BTC [+]
Apr 09 14:53:07 <taub>	only half kidding, ofc not 1m, but something like steam adopting would be huge huge nwes
Apr 09 14:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	taub we can settle on half of 10% :p
Apr 09 14:53:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00071 = 8.9105 BTC [+]
Apr 09 14:54:10 <taub>	:)
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Apr 09 14:55:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09868 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 14:57:16 <unbalanced_>	In other coin bubble news... Canadian Mint came out with next its series of coins with glass figurines stuck to them:
Apr 09 14:57:17 <unbalanced_>	http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/fine-silver-coin-purple-coneflower-with-venetian-glass-butterfly-mintage-10000-2013-prod1670015
Apr 09 14:57:29 <unbalanced_>	Sold out 10,000 at $150 quite quickly.
Apr 09 14:58:11 <unbalanced_>	A large Canadian reseller store that bought many of them is now sold out at $250 each: http://www.cdncoin.com/product-p/623932043589.htm
Apr 09 14:58:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 14:58:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Apr 09 14:59:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
Apr 09 14:59:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Apr 09 15:00:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.741 = 2.964 BTC [-]
Apr 09 15:00:14 <unbalanced_>	All for 1 oz of silver.
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Apr 09 15:02:02 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 09 15:02:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 230.00000, Best ask: 231.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 230.00000, 24 hour volume: 107341.81087907, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 203.79970
Apr 09 15:02:06 <deadweasel>	bears
Apr 09 15:02:33 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171388.0
Apr 09 15:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	how can hazek be this retarded ?
Apr 09 15:02:41 <TomServo>	heh, #bitcoin is shuffling people over to "#bitcoin-pricetalk"
Apr 09 15:02:45 <TomServo>	real talk, yo.
Apr 09 15:02:45 <mircea_popescu>	mpex leverage for last month was like 400k btc.
Apr 09 15:02:53 <mircea_popescu>	his puny 500k usd are "to da moon" ?
Apr 09 15:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	where do they find these tards. srsly.
Apr 09 15:06:10 <TomServo>	don't be jealous of the 'bitcoin opportunity fund' :P
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Apr 09 15:07:09 <tiberiusiv>	lol 500k is a joke
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Apr 09 15:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	i'm just a little sick of this super-superficial attitude
Apr 09 15:08:37 <mircea_popescu>	"i see x dork on tv, must mean he's rich"
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Apr 09 15:08:48 <mircea_popescu>	yea, that's how it works. totally.
Apr 09 15:09:04 <deadweasel>	no doubt
Apr 09 15:09:18 <deadweasel>	killed my tv 8 years ago
Apr 09 15:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	"mpex is too expensive ergo it doesn't exist. the rich people there do billionty dollars, but it never happened because they don't take my fiddy bux"
Apr 09 15:10:01 <FabianB>	mircea_popescu: have been thinking, in the 'unlikely' event bitcoin fails in a not too distant future and a good alternative arises (if), what happens to mpex? would you consider moving over and transfering current stock holders?
Apr 09 15:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	before the recent betsofbitcoin scam bitbet was doing 1.5-2k btc a month, betsofbitcoin was doing 20-50
Apr 09 15:10:22 <mircea_popescu>	"o, betsofbitcoiin, the tralalala"
Apr 09 15:10:41 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB yes, in the very catastrophic event you have in mind.
Apr 09 15:10:55 <FabianB>	just a thought experiment
Apr 09 15:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	if it's this very clear cut, bitcoin is ded, bitcoin' is here
Apr 09 15:11:11 <mircea_popescu>	then yes.
Apr 09 15:11:43 <FabianB>	yeah, of course not if all that happend is price plummeting to 1 usd
Apr 09 15:12:04 <FabianB>	more like if there's a security problem not fixable and price going to 0
Apr 09 15:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	depending on context i think simply another alt chain being worth more would mean i move.
Apr 09 15:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	depending.
Apr 09 15:12:46 <mircea_popescu>	this is all highly speculative of course and actual situations may play whichever way circumstances dictate etc.
Apr 09 15:12:49 <FabianB>	that means holding s.mpoe can hedge against btc failure
Apr 09 15:12:58 <FabianB>	of course
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Apr 09 15:13:05 <mircea_popescu>	holding s.mpoe hedges against everything other than me going mad.
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Apr 09 15:13:43 <FabianB>	seems like :)
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Apr 09 15:17:32 <ThickAsThieves>	wow cant believe these deposits havent cleared yet...
Apr 09 15:17:52 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, it's been a while...
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Apr 09 15:18:22 <ThickAsThieves>	.0002 tx fee
Apr 09 15:20:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C215T] 2 @ 0.20526835 = 0.4105 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 15:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.41 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 15:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	@Mircea_Popescu You should consider introducing #mircoin
Apr 09 15:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	that's possibly the most ridiculous sounding thing ever. mircoin
Apr 09 15:34:14 <jborkl_>	sounds too much like micon
Apr 09 15:34:22 <deadweasel>	popescucoin?
Apr 09 15:34:35 <deadweasel>	cucoin!
Apr 09 15:34:57 <deadweasel>	I'll mine.
Apr 09 15:35:17 <mircea_popescu>	cockoin
Apr 09 15:35:54 <pgp>	I wonder what "work" would consist of with cockoin...
Apr 09 15:35:58 <taub>	mtgox should just die
Apr 09 15:36:30 <mircea_popescu>	pgp i dunno but everyone mining it has real long penises...
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Apr 09 15:37:50 <deadweasel>	max johnson
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Apr 09 15:39:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7798 BTC [+]
Apr 09 15:39:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 09 15:39:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.80001, Best ask: 237.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.19999, Last trade: 235.80001, 24 hour volume: 107994.08151368, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 205.87526
Apr 09 15:39:42 <mircea_popescu>	eh wtf is this.
Apr 09 15:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	scam!
Apr 09 15:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 395 @ 0.00071 = 0.2805 BTC [+]
Apr 09 15:40:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00071052 = 9.2723 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 15:40:37 <ll>	!t m s.dice
Apr 09 15:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00276268 / 0.00333327 (51803 shares, 143.12 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00309121 / 0.00400173 (503526 shares, 1,556.51 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00357535 / 0.00599987 (1661472 shares, 5,940.36 BTC)
Apr 09 15:40:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8355 @ 0.00071199 = 5.9487 BTC [+]
Apr 09 15:42:42 <bgupta>	 so what's the longest folks have seen a single transaction take without getting a single confirm?
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Apr 09 15:45:37 <FabianB>	hours
Apr 09 15:46:05 <jborkl_>	i had 12 hours myself, I am sure there are longer
Apr 09 15:47:10 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 09 15:47:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 236.00102, Best ask: 236.98900, Bid-ask spread: 0.98798, Last trade: 236.00102, 24 hour volume: 107837.97713614, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 206.40299
Apr 09 15:47:17 <deadweasel>	bgupta 19 hours
Apr 09 15:47:38 <bgupta>	geez
Apr 09 15:47:39 <deadweasel>	not enough nodes.  what is the node count anyhow?
Apr 09 15:48:05 <bgupta>	well doesn't difficulty adjust to the numer of nodes?
Apr 09 15:48:47 <deadweasel>	ask a real miner.  i'm a minor miner
Apr 09 15:49:10 <bgupta>	The network currently has over 2300 pending transactions.. typically only 1000 pending transactions.
Apr 09 15:49:16 <jborkl_>	no, nodes just relay
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Apr 09 15:49:43 <jborkl_>	1000 nodes, plus or minus
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Apr 09 15:52:18 <bgupta>	apparently there is a huge and growing backlog in transactions http://blockchain.info/new-transactions
Apr 09 15:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 15:53:35 <jborkl_>	this morning it was at 700, right now 2200 - 4-5 blocks real quick would wipe out the backlog - depending on the size
Apr 09 15:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 1.2 = 8.4 BTC [-]
Apr 09 15:54:56 <taub>	failing to make a new high
Apr 09 15:55:03 <taub>	oh bwoy
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Apr 09 15:55:49 <taub>	bitbet needs a better rating system though
Apr 09 15:55:52 <taub>	like
Apr 09 15:55:55 <satoshigaming>	is it just me or is this game riggable? http://www.satoshi-karoshi.com/?r=10670 ive just been going left to right and making baaank
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Apr 09 15:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.28 = 0.56 BTC [+]
Apr 09 15:56:07 <pigeons>	is it just me or are you a spammer
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Apr 09 15:56:18 <taub>	who
Apr 09 15:56:20 <TomServo>	ha!
Apr 09 15:56:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C230T] 100 @ 0.17381693 = 17.3817 BTC
Apr 09 15:56:33 <deadweasel>	kakobrekla: damnkaroshi spammers are back
Apr 09 15:56:55 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 09 15:57:16 <kakobrekla>	well not much to do since he posts and parts
Apr 09 15:57:27 <kakobrekla>	options b is he posts and gets banned and parts
Apr 09 15:57:33 <kakobrekla>	so .. not much of a win
Apr 09 15:57:35 <pigeons>	hmm maybe its only riggable if i use his refferal code
Apr 09 15:57:40 <deadweasel>	that site has viruo ya, i missed that.  thx anyhow1
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Apr 09 15:57:58 <kakobrekla>	gah :\
Apr 09 15:58:07 <kakobrekla>	well im open to ideas here
Apr 09 15:58:10 <deadweasel>	that site has a virus last time i checked.
Apr 09 15:58:38 <deadweasel>	no worries. kakobrekla, i thought he was going to sell it.  i missed him 'partin'
Apr 09 15:58:40 <pigeons>	i dont click links in this channel anyway, too much porn
Apr 09 15:58:49 <deadweasel>	^
Apr 09 15:58:51 <deadweasel>	yup
Apr 09 15:59:05 <deadweasel>	although when i'm not at work i clickem all
Apr 09 15:59:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C260T] 120 @ 0.1206268 = 14.4752 BTC
Apr 09 15:59:31 <kakobrekla>	meh work
Apr 09 16:00:04 <KRS-1>	is this teh new high
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Apr 09 16:01:23 <deadweasel>	clockin' out, later!
Apr 09 16:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed
Apr 09 16:02:01 <Doffx>	If I remember correctly kakobrekla was living off BTC income a very long time ago.
Apr 09 16:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	ya but meanwhile that went bust
Apr 09 16:02:30 <mircea_popescu>	now he's living off plucking pigeons
Apr 09 16:02:37 <kakobrekla>	:D
Apr 09 16:03:44 <topace|2>	!ticker h vtx
Apr 09 16:03:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.20000000 / 0.2247293 / 0.29999990 (522 shares, 117.30869271 BTC), 7D: 0.20000000 / 0.34787883 / 0.56000000 (1465 shares, 509.64248047 BTC), 30D: 0.20000000 / 0.42544027 / 0.79900000 (14112 shares, 6003.81302600 BTC)
Apr 09 16:03:57 <topace|2>	!ticker h him
Apr 09 16:03:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.20000000 / 1.50716374 / 1.89000000 (91 shares, 137.15190010 BTC), 7D: 1.20000000 / 1.70644973 / 2.00000000 (185 shares, 315.69320010 BTC), 30D: 1.20000000 / 1.82089017 / 2.08000000 (753 shares, 1371.13029840 BTC)
Apr 09 16:04:00 <kakobrekla>	Doffx like 2 years now
Apr 09 16:04:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00270001 = 2.16 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:04:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 74200 @ 0.0027 = 200.34 BTC [-]
Apr 09 16:04:09 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105818.msg1785348#msg1785348
Apr 09 16:04:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 09 16:04:15 <Doffx>	I need to put more effort in to it.
Apr 09 16:04:24 <kakobrekla>	well
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Apr 09 16:04:32 <kakobrekla>	its been hard to go bankrupt latley
Apr 09 16:04:39 <Doffx>	I am making insane extra side cash, but no way I could live off it.
Apr 09 16:05:17 <Doffx>	The whole pirate, glbse nonsense made me shy away for a while too.
Apr 09 16:05:18 <mircea_popescu>	i made ~200mn past year.
Apr 09 16:05:26 <Doffx>	btc?
Apr 09 16:05:31 <Doffx>	hehe
Apr 09 16:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	no, dollah
Apr 09 16:05:43 <Doffx>	Nice.
Apr 09 16:05:45 <mircea_popescu>	if these numbers are to be believed
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Apr 09 16:06:03 <kakobrekla>	well i made shit compared to that.
Apr 09 16:06:19 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker these beenz are shit
Apr 09 16:06:19 <assbot>	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Apr 09 16:06:24 <mircea_popescu>	^
Apr 09 16:06:30 <kakobrekla>	;)
Apr 09 16:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0015 = 15 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00189999 = 18.9999 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:06:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.00194999 = 9.75 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:06:44 <jborkl_>	shit, mp you could buy a couple good hookers with that
Apr 09 16:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 09 16:07:04 <pizzaman1337>	what do you do with all that anyway?
Apr 09 16:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	nothing lol
Apr 09 16:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	problem with being rich. fucking numbers on the screen
Apr 09 16:07:22 <Doffx>	Buy a beach house in bora bora
Apr 09 16:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	i don't like the beach
Apr 09 16:07:33 <mircea_popescu>	or bora bora
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Apr 09 16:07:40 <Doffx>	Buy a ski resort in Alaska
Apr 09 16:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	meh. i kinda like eastern europe tbh.
Apr 09 16:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	white skinny chicks.
Apr 09 16:07:57 <Doffx>	Buy europe
Apr 09 16:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	at this rate i might buy sweden
Apr 09 16:08:10 <pizzaman1337>	cyprus!
Apr 09 16:08:21 <mircea_popescu>	too turkish
Apr 09 16:08:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.395 = 3.95 BTC [-]
Apr 09 16:08:30 <pizzaman1337>	make them use BTC
Apr 09 16:08:38 <mircea_popescu>	the turks ? they'll break it
Apr 09 16:08:41 <pizzaman1337>	heh
Apr 09 16:08:59 <jborkl_>	next thing we will see is photos of mp with the princess of Sweden
Apr 09 16:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.221 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	is she hawt ?
Apr 09 16:09:12 <jborkl_>	from what I remember
Apr 09 16:09:19 <jborkl_>	a couple years ago..
Apr 09 16:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.nhlsnipers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/princess-madeleine.jpg
Apr 09 16:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	"did you say mp?"
Apr 09 16:10:15 <jborkl_>	lol, you need to bang Maria Sharapove
Apr 09 16:10:18 <jborkl_>	a
Apr 09 16:10:27 <jborkl_>	that would be top on my list
Apr 09 16:10:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 17 @ 0.4 = 6.8 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	ya think ?
Apr 09 16:11:20 <taub>	okay bitbet like heres the deal
Apr 09 16:11:22 <mircea_popescu>	i don't go for this famous angle so much
Apr 09 16:11:26 <Lyspooner>	i bought sweden, sorry
Apr 09 16:11:35 <taub>	for example that $200 bet, people who bet right at the beginning got 1.2 odds
Apr 09 16:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner was it wortyh it ?
Apr 09 16:11:40 <jborkl_>	naw, she just goes after balls with such effort
Apr 09 16:11:42 <taub>	the people who came in in the end got 1.1
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Apr 09 16:11:58 <Lyspooner>	i don't know, i'm trying to get julian assange sprung so we can go there together
Apr 09 16:12:01 <taub>	not really fair, but i understand how it can be hard to implement
Apr 09 16:12:19 <mircea_popescu>	taub yeah i dare go on a limb and say it's not so common this stuff.
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Apr 09 16:12:30 <mircea_popescu>	but im not so sure it's not fair.
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Apr 09 16:14:58 <OgNasty>	mircea: is this month going to be another painful one?
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Apr 09 16:15:26 <mircea_popescu>	that we'll know at the end.
Apr 09 16:15:59 <OgNasty>	are you bearish on btc?
Apr 09 16:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	nah
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Apr 09 16:16:21 <OgNasty>	how'd you get put in a position to lose money on an increase?
Apr 09 16:16:40 <OgNasty>	or was it the wild swing?
Apr 09 16:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	well yes. who else do you know who can maintain a 500k BTC notional exposure ?
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Apr 09 16:18:09 <OgNasty>	not i.  i just wonder what i'm missing between you not being bearish and losing on an increase in price.
Apr 09 16:18:26 <OgNasty>	perhaps i should read more.
Apr 09 16:18:30 <mircea_popescu>	i'm passive. do you understnad how mpoe options work ?
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Apr 09 16:18:48 <OgNasty>	yes.  i didn't think you were passive.
Apr 09 16:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	well as a lender of last resort to the bot
Apr 09 16:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	if the exposure is laerger than what bonds cover
Apr 09 16:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	i can end up either long or short BTC on that book, depending what people did
Apr 09 16:19:35 <OgNasty>	i see.
Apr 09 16:19:48 <OgNasty>	so it's the pop that will make you smile.
Apr 09 16:19:55 <mircea_popescu>	not necessarily.
Apr 09 16:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	if i carry a lot (a lot!) of sold calls on the book and price goes up then i can hurt. if it doesn't then mpex makes bank
Apr 09 16:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	vice-versa with puts.
Apr 09 16:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	if there's not a lot of exposure i don't really care either way
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Apr 09 16:21:02 <OgNasty>	a scary position to be in if a bigger shark comes along.
Apr 09 16:21:32 <OgNasty>	your balls must be made of steel.
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Apr 09 16:21:46 <mircea_popescu>	eh, how big is this shark going to be.
Apr 09 16:22:40 <OgNasty>	i have no idea.  i'm always impressed with how the idea is catching on.  i heard roseanne barr owns bitcoins now.
Apr 09 16:22:56 <jurov>	coinbr deposits flushed
Apr 09 16:23:04 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: couldn't you adjust the algorithm to take your exposure into account, raising the cost of calls if you are short tons of calls... seems like a possible way of increasing your value extraction and biasing the pricing to encourage a reduction of your own exposure, while still market making
Apr 09 16:23:27 <Bugpowder>	if people still want to pay more for calls, you give them the option, but you just charge more for it
Apr 09 16:23:46 <pgp>	yes
Apr 09 16:23:51 <OgNasty>	i know i personally would like to be in control of which way my exposure was swayed...
Apr 09 16:23:52 <mircea_popescu>	i don't understand why people are so aggressed at the notion speculators made money.
Apr 09 16:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	you know, s.dice loses every fgucking month about 50% of the bets made
Apr 09 16:24:07 <Bugpowder>	I have NO PROBLEM with the current state
Apr 09 16:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	why shouldn't option gholders make bank if they;re right ?
Apr 09 16:24:24 <pgp>	they should
Apr 09 16:24:28 <pgp>	of course
Apr 09 16:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	so they have.
Apr 09 16:24:29 <OgNasty>	+1
Apr 09 16:24:32 <jcpham>	haters gon' hate
Apr 09 16:24:34 <Bugpowder>	people just care about you and your feelings
Apr 09 16:24:38 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
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Apr 09 16:24:39 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 207.52
Apr 09 16:24:41 <Bugpowder>	and don't want to see you hurt
Apr 09 16:24:54 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 09 16:24:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.01000, Best ask: 236.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99000, Last trade: 235.00300, 24 hour volume: 108838.11631974, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 207.47966
Apr 09 16:24:57 <Doffx>	I still dont fully understand the options, I had it figured out once, but now its back to being foreign to me.
Apr 09 16:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i c :)
Apr 09 16:25:26 <OgNasty>	i am just surprised you would take the passive approach.
Apr 09 16:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Apr 09 16:25:53 <OgNasty>	because i wouldn't i guess.
Apr 09 16:26:05 <mircea_popescu>	well ok, but we can't all be boys.
Apr 09 16:26:15 <pizzaman1337>	I think it's awesome, he's sacrificing for the "greater good" of bitcoin
Apr 09 16:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	you all daytraders gotta have a socket to plug your daytrading tool into
Apr 09 16:26:44 <mod6>	:]
Apr 09 16:26:56 <OgNasty>	no daytrading but trendtrading sure.
Apr 09 16:27:07 <pgp>	lol
Apr 09 16:27:20 <OgNasty>	if you think btc will be $1,000, seems odd to not take a side on that.
Apr 09 16:27:51 <Lyspooner>	he has the correct side on, i'm sure
Apr 09 16:27:51 <mod6>	i think you might want to read up on how mpex works
Apr 09 16:27:53 <MJR_>	i think people are basically saying that the market is super biased in one direction...it doesn't take a lot of skill to guess up
Apr 09 16:27:55 <mircea_popescu>	OgNasty my stake of various btc businesses is easy over 500k btc.
Apr 09 16:27:59 <mircea_popescu>	how do i not have a stake ?
Apr 09 16:28:02 <OgNasty>	but i respect that you are more of an architect than a player.
Apr 09 16:28:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7798 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 16:28:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7798 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:28:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7799 = 1.5598 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:28:39 <Lyspooner>	dude's got more play in his pinky than an architect has blueprints in his balls
Apr 09 16:28:39 <jurov>	*reads scrollback* lol chan suddenly full of tight-assed mpoe bondholders
Apr 09 16:28:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol Lyspooner didn't know you were a fan
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Apr 09 16:28:57 <Bugpowder>	OgNasty: you still got those minirigs on order?
Apr 09 16:29:04 <Doffx>	I dont think hes sacrificing anything, I think hes making a killing and getting to look like the big boy at the same time.
Apr 09 16:29:09 <Doffx>	Hes got you all fooled!
Apr 09 16:29:11 <Doffx>	:)
Apr 09 16:29:15 <OgNasty>	lots of sc
Apr 09 16:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 10 @ 0.25604244 = 2.5604 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:29:29 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx you shall now be exiled out of the happy chan
Apr 09 16:29:30 <Lyspooner>	who's being fooled?
Apr 09 16:29:35 <Doffx>	haha
Apr 09 16:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	into the chan of eternal torment with you.
Apr 09 16:29:53 <Lyspooner>	bondholders are faggots
Apr 09 16:29:58 <Bugpowder>	Doffx: It was that way till last month
Apr 09 16:30:31 <Doffx>	Oh I have been around a long time, mircea_popescu has always been making a killing.
Apr 09 16:30:44 <Lyspooner>	Nice choice of strikes, mircea_popescu
Apr 09 16:30:48 <Doffx>	Long time as far as this channel is concerned anyhow.
Apr 09 16:31:11 <OgNasty>	it's hard not to be making a killing when the price is going up 20% per day.
Apr 09 16:31:28 <unbalanced_>	Speaking of which... What, no new high yet? It's been like 2 hours... Bitcoin y u no bubble no mo?
Apr 09 16:31:29 <Doffx>	yeah, but he did it when btc was 4-5$, hes no dummy.
Apr 09 16:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner yeah it looks like fucking pasta.
Apr 09 16:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 09 16:31:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 234.53656, Best ask: 235.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.46344, Last trade: 235.00000, 24 hour volume: 108850.07227890, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 207.55397
Apr 09 16:32:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00241 = 0.0241 BTC [-]
Apr 09 16:32:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 19 @ 0.0024 = 0.0456 BTC [-]
Apr 09 16:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	i love going by all these abandoned sites with btc frozen prices
Apr 09 16:32:42 <mircea_popescu>	like... our tea! only 1.5 btc!
Apr 09 16:33:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09869 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:33:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C230T] 10 @ 0.17622044 = 1.7622 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:33:51 <kakobrekla>	http://static.rtbtc.net:8080/img/bitvps_20120509.png
Apr 09 16:33:56 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: are you okay with me putting the "pls make calls more expesive" convo on btctalk
Apr 09 16:34:02 <jurov>	and washing my hands over it?
Apr 09 16:34:04 <jurov>	 :D
Apr 09 16:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol. sure
Apr 09 16:34:19 <Bugpowder>	$40 a pound! http://bitbrew.net/fabulous-french-roast/
Apr 09 16:34:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C206T] 20 @ 0.23438962 = 4.6878 BTC
Apr 09 16:35:19 <Bugpowder>	unbalanced_: we have topped for the day
Apr 09 16:35:28 <Bugpowder>	need more capital to be flushed in
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Apr 09 16:36:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C203T] 20 @ 0.24277853 = 4.8556 BTC
Apr 09 16:36:50 <Doffx>	kakobrekla, the funny part about the bitvps is I helped him clean that add up, he paid me 5 btc and I gave 30$ usd to the artist that did it.
Apr 09 16:36:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C209T] 20 @ 0.22626342 = 4.5253 BTC
Apr 09 16:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C212T] 20 @ 0.21839445 = 4.3679 BTC
Apr 09 16:37:04 <kakobrekla>	:))
Apr 09 16:37:54 <Doffx>	I think I should ask if he would pay me 5 more btc to have it updated.
Apr 09 16:38:05 <Doffx>	where is rg anyhow
Apr 09 16:38:18 <Namworld>	rg has vanished
Apr 09 16:38:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C215T] 20 @ 0.21077537 = 4.2155 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:38:38 <Namworld>	no more rg
Apr 09 16:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	so weird, he got out of btc like a month before btc kicking ass
Apr 09 16:38:48 <mircea_popescu>	bad move of all time./
Apr 09 16:39:00 <Doffx>	Odd for sure.
Apr 09 16:39:02 <Namworld>	well the profits are in USD anyway...
Apr 09 16:39:16 <Namworld>	and price in BTC moves according to USD/BTC rate
Apr 09 16:39:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C218T] 20 @ 0.20340016 = 4.068 BTC
Apr 09 16:39:22 <Namworld>	So doesn't change much
Apr 09 16:39:22 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld site aside. i recall him since 2011
Apr 09 16:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	he was in here for years
Apr 09 16:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	15, 2, 5 etc
Apr 09 16:39:39 <mircea_popescu>	then a month before 200+ he's goine
Apr 09 16:39:45 <Namworld>	yeah...
Apr 09 16:39:57 <Bugpowder>	some people are born lucky
Apr 09 16:40:03 <Bugpowder>	some... are not
Apr 09 16:40:33 <mod6>	rg has been active in -otc, he's into ltc now i guess.
Apr 09 16:40:42 <Namworld>	lol
Apr 09 16:40:49 <Namworld>	liteVPS
Apr 09 16:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone notices rg dissapear from ltc
Apr 09 16:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	let me know pls.
Apr 09 16:42:19 <mod6>	(23:08) <+rg> thats wy im here
Apr 09 16:42:19 <mod6>	(23:08) <+rg> i got $9k in LTC burning a hole in my pocket
Apr 09 16:42:30 <mod6>	from lastnight
Apr 09 16:42:39 <mod6>	*shrug*
Apr 09 16:42:49 <dub>	he was selling btc in there too
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Apr 09 16:43:18 <dub>	he should still have a decent stack, used to be one of the bigger miners
Apr 09 16:43:29 <Doffx>	You can always count on irc to be logging your every word! :)
Apr 09 16:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	yea he was eaerly mining it i recall
Apr 09 16:43:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00651 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 16:44:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00651 BTC [-]
Apr 09 16:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 09 16:44:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 234.02395, Best ask: 235.89700, Bid-ask spread: 1.87305, Last trade: 235.89700, 24 hour volume: 107728.29325338, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 207.93552
Apr 09 16:44:46 <dub>	not that early but he had 60GH of stolen supercomputer (according to him) when most miners where <10GH
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Apr 09 16:45:13 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1786288#msg1786288 ... and lol, that C215T is in money already
Apr 09 16:45:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.006501 BTC [-]
Apr 09 16:46:01 <mod6>	i like rg for the most part. and I liked how he was helpful to most newbs in -otc. just too bad that bvps ended the way it did :/
Apr 09 16:46:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 4 @ 0.0065 = 0.026 BTC [-]
Apr 09 16:46:22 <Namworld>	BitVPS didn't end =/
Apr 09 16:46:37 <mod6>	err, yea sorry Namworld ...
Apr 09 16:46:44 <mod6>	im refering to its delisting on mpex
Apr 09 16:46:48 <Namworld>	Just RG and his helpfulness being around
Apr 09 16:46:55 <Namworld>	oh, that. Yeah
Apr 09 16:47:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 99999999
Apr 09 16:47:26 <gribble>	There are currently 39007.734 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 502431927.952 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.4332 seconds
Apr 09 16:47:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 09 16:47:31 <gribble>	There are currently 32135254 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14598746.1341 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.8648 seconds
Apr 09 16:47:43 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug are you SURE the rally is over today?
Apr 09 16:47:57 <Namworld>	http://www.bitvps.com/img/120x90-1.png
Apr 09 16:48:09 <Namworld>	The probable new banner to replace the 1 BTC banner
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Apr 09 16:48:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 3500
Apr 09 16:48:52 <gribble>	A market order to sell 3500 bitcoins right now would net 808104.7174 USD and would take the last price down to 225.9800 USD, resulting in an average price of 230.8871 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 106.8866 seconds
Apr 09 16:49:02 <mod6>	how's it goin anyway Namworld?
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Apr 09 16:49:16 <Namworld>	BitVPS?
Apr 09 16:49:19 <mod6>	ya
Apr 09 16:49:22 <Namworld>	Doing ok...
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Apr 09 16:49:34 <Namworld>	Been a money sinkhole...
Apr 09 16:49:38 <Namworld>	xD
Apr 09 16:49:47 <Namworld>	Shouldn't be for much longer tho
Apr 09 16:50:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 25 @ 0.264 = 6.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 16:51:26 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: Not sure about anything...  but the oscillation is damping down.  bid volume is down.  I think we need another bolus of wires to push it... Maybe when Japan gets up.
Apr 09 16:51:38 <unbalanced_>	Or China
Apr 09 16:52:54 <Bugpowder>	I'm assuming Japan is more relevant due to the exchange being located there, not sure how the deposit flushing works at gox.
Apr 09 16:53:06 <unbalanced_>	ah jes
Apr 09 16:53:12 <mod6>	The ToS says I can't run a miner, which makes sense.  Wallet hosting is ok though?
Apr 09 16:53:16 <ThickAsThieves>	it does look like about 3000 new coins for sale
Apr 09 16:53:28 <unbalanced_>	I saw talk on the wall watcher thread about China on Sunday
Apr 09 16:53:37 <Namworld>	mod6: yeah
Apr 09 16:53:57 <mod6>	ok thanks!
Apr 09 16:54:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C260T] 500 @ 0.12286079 = 61.4304 BTC [+]
Apr 09 16:55:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;calc 260/(1-0.12286079)
Apr 09 16:55:19 <gribble>	296.418170612
Apr 09 16:55:29 <Namworld>	anyone wants some C200?
Apr 09 16:56:02 <Bugpowder>	I'll sell some 137s
Apr 09 16:56:09 <Bugpowder>	or 104s
Apr 09 16:56:13 <Bugpowder>	at midmarket
Apr 09 16:56:16 <ThickAsThieves>	list em
Apr 09 16:56:20 <ThickAsThieves>	and we'll see
Apr 09 16:56:20 <Bugpowder>	if anyone is interested
Apr 09 16:56:36 <Namworld>	ok well I'm out
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Apr 09 16:58:02 <Doffx>	Ugg, just read a site aout options that finally made sense to me.
Apr 09 16:58:24 <Doffx>	As usual I was over complicating the why.
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Apr 09 17:00:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder how much potential money was lost waiting for that deposit
Apr 09 17:00:34 <ThickAsThieves>	many of those options are already in the money
Apr 09 17:00:44 <ThickAsThieves>	tens of thousands of $?
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Apr 09 17:03:07 <jurov>	try complaining to your bank how much you lost due to them "delaying" a wire
Apr 09 17:03:24 <jurov>	i'm interested what they'll say.
Apr 09 17:04:49 <ThickAsThieves>	not that simple, i could debate more relevant angles, but i'm not interested in arguing I guess
Apr 09 17:04:58 <ThickAsThieves>	whats done is done
Apr 09 17:05:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll adjust my future behavior
Apr 09 17:05:11 <ThickAsThieves>	to reduce this risk
Apr 09 17:05:51 <unbalanced_>	It's taken me a while but I am learning to plan ahead to get BTC where I need 'em before I need 'em.
Apr 09 17:06:06 <ThickAsThieves>	its not always thats imple though
Apr 09 17:06:13 <ThickAsThieves>	when you day trade
Apr 09 17:06:24 <unbalanced_>	or arb, yeah
Apr 09 17:06:26 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Apr 09 17:06:34 <unbalanced_>	jurov, I appreciate you helping out on the transfers as you have mentioned here before
Apr 09 17:07:20 <unbalanced_>	(I'm a small fish compared to some of the whales around here though.)
Apr 09 17:08:21 <jurov>	um, okay, it's not exactly helping, rather basic business operation
Apr 09 17:09:30 <dub>	what I like about this rally is the deafening silence of the 'cryptoanarchist' brigade
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Apr 09 17:09:56 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Apr 09 17:10:00 <jurov>	they became rich and are disgusted of thmeselves?
Apr 09 17:10:13 <dub>	'down with the state! eat the rich! oh shit nigga im rich? break out the crystal'
Apr 09 17:10:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 116 @ 0.010246 = 1.1885 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:10:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010246 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:10:49 <jurov>	or just the media attention completely deafened anything other
Apr 09 17:10:59 <Bugpowder>	they probably sold at 12
Apr 09 17:11:06 <unbalanced_>	jurov, that's what I mean, when you're around you do what you can to expedite. But you gotta sleep sometime.
Apr 09 17:11:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.010247 = 0.1537 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:11:14 <jurov>	my mother said today "oh yes i'm seeing bitcoins everywhere"
Apr 09 17:11:14 <Bugpowder>	or traded their coins for stuff on SR.
Apr 09 17:11:23 <jurov>	i was like what? where?
Apr 09 17:11:38 <jurov>	and there are supposedly some billboards with bitcoins around
Apr 09 17:11:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0987 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:11:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:11:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0989 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:11:51 <jurov>	i hope she's exaggerating
Apr 09 17:11:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.099 = 0.198 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:12:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:12:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C248T] 400 @ 0.14696244 = 58.785 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:12:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1818 @ 0.00071199 = 1.2944 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:12:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10482 @ 0.000712 = 7.4632 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:12:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01799 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:12:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.018 = 0.09 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:13:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 20 @ 0.01899 = 0.3798 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:13:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 200 @ 0.25859901 = 51.7198 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:13:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 61 @ 0.010248 = 0.6251 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 17:13:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10099 = 0.202 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:13:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C203T] 30 @ 0.24982555 = 7.4948 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:13:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 28 @ 0.101 = 2.828 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 17:14:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C185T] 170 @ 0.30659469 = 52.1211 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 17:14:08 <tiberiusiv>	lol dub
Apr 09 17:14:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1442 @ 0.0027 = 3.8934 BTC [-]
Apr 09 17:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	dub heh
Apr 09 17:14:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C209T] 30 @ 0.23306651 = 6.992 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 17:14:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C155T] 100 @ 0.42471172 = 42.4712 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:15:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C215T] 30 @ 0.2173294 = 6.5199 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 17:16:30 <Bugpowder>	random ass call buyer
Apr 09 17:16:46 <ThickAsThieves>	not al the same person
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Apr 09 17:18:59 <Lyspooner>	dub, it's "cristal"
Apr 09 17:19:19 <Lyspooner>	and i don't see why a cryptoanarchist can't enjoy champagne
Apr 09 17:19:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 23 @ 0.101 = 2.323 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:19:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.101 = 0.303 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:19:59 <jurov>	cryptoanarchist + veuve clicquot = ?
Apr 09 17:20:31 <dub>	Lyspooner: thanks for that
Apr 09 17:20:42 <Lyspooner>	no probs
Apr 09 17:20:47 <dub>	never actually seen any cristal taht i can recall
Apr 09 17:20:59 <dub>	not popular here
Apr 09 17:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.16 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Apr 09 17:21:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01025 = 5.125 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 17:21:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01999 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:21:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.019999 = 0.12 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:21:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 16 @ 0.02 = 0.32 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:21:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.02 = 0.06 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:21:40 <Lyspooner>	the owner of the company that produces cristal said something bad about black people, like, "i wish they wouldn't be drinking my champagne"
Apr 09 17:21:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 33 @ 0.1019 = 3.3627 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:22:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1019 = 0.2038 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
Apr 09 17:22:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.15 = 0.45 BTC [-]
Apr 09 17:22:14 <unbalanced_>	rappers, yeah... snob got schooled
Apr 09 17:22:29 <tiberiusiv>	nobody wants black people drinking or using any brands
Apr 09 17:22:44 <tiberiusiv>	they tend to ghetto it out
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Apr 09 17:23:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [-]
Apr 09 17:23:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.7799 = 6.2392 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:24:12 <ThickAsThieves>	whoa
Apr 09 17:24:16 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice
Apr 09 17:24:59 <ll>	jeez that fell fast
Apr 09 17:25:02 <tiberiusiv>	sdice is too fiat based
Apr 09 17:25:34 <jurov>	no wonder when topace allows sdice transfers in only one direction
Apr 09 17:25:56 <jurov>	the other direction is "allowed" for 10BTC fee
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Apr 09 17:27:59 <jurov>	btw if anyone is interested to split the fee let me know
Apr 09 17:28:25 <jurov>	er... but transfers between accounts are prolly 10btc too... no help here
Apr 09 17:30:06 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv the troll
Apr 09 17:30:07 <Lyspooner>	23,800 yen to buy a bitcoin
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Apr 09 17:30:29 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller the braindead
Apr 09 17:30:34 <thestringpuller>	he be trollin, he be hatin, trynna rob us dirty
Apr 09 17:30:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2750 @ 0.0027 = 7.425 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 17:32:45 <MJR_>	that is super low on havelock
Apr 09 17:32:55 <mircea_popescu>	you know that cristal stuff isn't all that grand.
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Apr 09 17:33:36 <jborkl_>	I bought a bottle once, it was shitty
Apr 09 17:37:00 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 09 17:37:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.00000, Best ask: 237.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 237.10000, 24 hour volume: 101568.77369191, 24 hour low: 183.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 210.66450
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Apr 09 17:41:09 <topace|2>	jurov: fee reduced to 1BTC
Apr 09 17:41:27 <jurov>	topace|2: thx
Apr 09 17:42:04 <topace|2>	10btc is rediculous at todays rates
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Apr 09 17:50:58 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: are you still around?
Apr 09 17:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 480 @ 0.0027 = 1.296 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 17:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.24 = 0.72 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 17:54:14 <toffoo>	for sale: 175 ASICMINER shares (not pass-thru) @ 0.75 BTC
Apr 09 17:54:23 <toffoo>	(typing up forum post now)
Apr 09 17:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.145 = 2.29 BTC [+]
Apr 09 17:56:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0027 = 1.08 BTC [-]
Apr 09 17:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.222 = 0.888 BTC [+]
Apr 09 18:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.221 = 2.21 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 18:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.101 = 5.505 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 18:01:31 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 09 18:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 27 @ 0.221 = 5.967 BTC [-]
Apr 09 18:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder sup
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Apr 09 18:06:38 <Bugpowder>	I wuz thinking of depositing some more coin
Apr 09 18:06:56 <Bugpowder>	wanted to see if I could get a quick flush when it comes in
Apr 09 18:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	at the rate mining has been going that'll be tomorrow anyway
Apr 09 18:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.222 = 0.888 BTC [+]
Apr 09 18:10:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0027 = 1.08 BTC [-]
Apr 09 18:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.23 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Apr 09 18:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00277899 = 1.1116 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 18:15:02 <KRS1>	;;bids
Apr 09 18:15:03 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 09 18:15:07 <KRS1>	;;ticker
Apr 09 18:15:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.25000, Best ask: 237.45900, Bid-ask spread: 0.20900, Last trade: 237.46000, 24 hour volume: 98777.78340359, 24 hour low: 184.58200, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 211.72212
Apr 09 18:17:26 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: If you wouldn't mind flushing my deposit, I'd appreciate it.  tx
Apr 09 18:17:36 <mircea_popescu>	check first
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Apr 09 18:18:37 <Bugpowder>	werd
Apr 09 18:18:38 <Bugpowder>	up
Apr 09 18:18:40 <Bugpowder>	tx
Apr 09 18:20:00 <KRS1>	its the code word
Apr 09 18:20:22 <KRS1>	no matter where you say it, you know that you'll be heard
Apr 09 18:20:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C122T] 20 @ 0.539 = 10.78 BTC [+]
Apr 09 18:21:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C119T] 5 @ 0.55 = 2.75 BTC [+]
Apr 09 18:22:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C110T] 40 @ 0.605 = 24.2 BTC [+]
Apr 09 18:22:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C107T] 30 @ 0.625 = 18.75 BTC [+]
Apr 09 18:23:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 55 @ 0.65 = 35.75 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 18:24:27 <ThickAsThieves>	thank you whoever bought those :)
Apr 09 18:24:35 <ThickAsThieves>	whomever*
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Apr 09 18:27:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
Apr 09 18:28:19 <Bugpowder>	ME
Apr 09 18:28:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 20 @ 0.68 = 13.6 BTC [+]
Apr 09 18:28:25 <Bugpowder>	midmarket actuion
Apr 09 18:28:28 <Bugpowder>	action!
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Apr 09 18:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.145 = 2.29 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 18:33:25 <ThickAsThieves>	wouldnt it be better to buy higher strike price options?
Apr 09 18:33:36 <ThickAsThieves>	diminishing returns on those, no?
Apr 09 18:33:51 <Bugpowder>	where are they?
Apr 09 18:34:01 <ThickAsThieves>	?
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Apr 09 18:34:55 <mod6>	(15:33) < ThickAsThieves> diminishing returns on those, no? << if the price of the underlying continues to rise, so should the CALLs regardless of strike
Apr 09 18:34:56 <Bugpowder>	are you selling higher strikes?
Apr 09 18:35:06 <mod6>	well, have to figure in theta tho
Apr 09 18:35:07 <ThickAsThieves>	no i meant,
Apr 09 18:35:08 <Bugpowder>	I didn't see them
Apr 09 18:35:16 <ThickAsThieves>	bot options
Apr 09 18:35:18 <mod6>	and other greeks heheh
Apr 09 18:35:19 <Bugpowder>	I only bought cause they were midmarket
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Apr 09 18:35:34 <ThickAsThieves>	right, theyll be in the money at 265 or so
Apr 09 18:35:38 <ThickAsThieves>	safer bet
Apr 09 18:36:00 <jurov>	fuck someone had to chose this night for pentesting coinbr
Apr 09 18:36:11 <jurov>	getting flooded by error reports
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Apr 09 18:38:07 <toffoo>	175 direct ASICMINER shares for sale: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171800.0
Apr 09 18:38:07 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug, lets take the [MPEX] [O.USD.C110T] 40 @ 0.605 = 24.2 BTC for example
Apr 09 18:38:19 <ThickAsThieves>	thats is break even at like 275
Apr 09 18:39:10 <ThickAsThieves>	but even if price rises to 350
Apr 09 18:39:18 <ThickAsThieves>	you only make .08 ea right?
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Apr 09 18:41:23 <ThickAsThieves>	whereas
Apr 09 18:41:39 <ThickAsThieves>	the break even on the bots C200T
Apr 09 18:41:41 <ThickAsThieves>	is lower
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Apr 09 18:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	seems we're dropping a little.
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Apr 09 18:43:43 <ThickAsThieves>	so you'd only need price to hit 275 to make the same .08
Apr 09 18:43:51 <ThickAsThieves>	or is my math off?
Apr 09 18:44:53 <ThickAsThieves>	sorry
Apr 09 18:44:57 <ThickAsThieves>	not 275, 303
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Apr 09 18:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	seems not 275 303 would be a big deal
Apr 09 18:46:09 <ThickAsThieves>	but i'm comparing to 350
Apr 09 18:46:15 <ThickAsThieves>	also a big deal
Apr 09 18:46:44 <MJR_>	benkay
Apr 09 18:46:51 <mircea_popescu>	a
Apr 09 18:47:41 <Bugpowder>	the curves are steeper the higher out you go in strike
Apr 09 18:47:55 <Bugpowder>	and have a 0 point crossever further out
Apr 09 18:48:02 <Bugpowder>	I don't really care what the curves look like
Apr 09 18:48:18 <Bugpowder>	I just try buy the best 'deal'
Apr 09 18:48:28 <ThickAsThieves>	is that the best approach though?
Apr 09 18:48:30 <Bugpowder>	your options were 8% under the bot price
Apr 09 18:48:34 <ThickAsThieves>	your break even is still 275
Apr 09 18:48:40 <Bugpowder>	is it though?
Apr 09 18:48:50 <ThickAsThieves>	for the example one
Apr 09 18:49:17 <Bugpowder>	I don't know where there price will go
Apr 09 18:49:25 <Bugpowder>	but deep ITM calls are less risky
Apr 09 18:49:32 <Bugpowder>	in terms of % losses
Apr 09 18:49:40 <Bugpowder>	if the price doesn't move
Apr 09 18:49:59 <ThickAsThieves>	you'll lose less?
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Apr 09 18:51:00 <Bugpowder>	If mircea_popescu programmed his bot right, which I assume he did, the average EV of each strike should be roughly equal, given the population distribution of future price expectations
Apr 09 18:51:33 <Bugpowder>	Thus, if a few strikes are priced 8% cheaper than others, I should buy those
Apr 09 18:51:36 <mircea_popescu>	what sort of throwing in the towel is this
Apr 09 18:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	you're supposed to find all sorts of bot errors and whatnot
Apr 09 18:51:51 <Bugpowder>	unless I KNOW where the market is going to go
Apr 09 18:52:10 <Bugpowder>	and nobody knows
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Apr 09 18:52:43 <Bugpowder>	dinnertime
Apr 09 18:53:42 <ThickAsThieves>	okay so in summary, what you bought breaks even at 275, and the break even for C200 is lower, yet what you bought is better?
Apr 09 18:54:02 <Bugpowder>	the break even for c200 is lower???
Apr 09 18:54:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;calc 200/(1-0.26400071)
Apr 09 18:54:41 <gribble>	271.739392575
Apr 09 18:54:44 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Apr 09 18:54:52 <Bugpowder>	welllllll
Apr 09 18:54:55 <Bugpowder>	that sux
Apr 09 18:55:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 110 / .395
Apr 09 18:55:12 <gribble>	278.481012658
Apr 09 18:55:15 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 09 18:55:28 <Bugpowder>	I blame mircea_popescu
Apr 09 18:55:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i blame math
Apr 09 18:56:14 <Bugpowder>	I should really automate this analysis
Apr 09 18:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	seems a dubious way to go about things.
Apr 09 18:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	the otm one breaks even slightly earlier, but the itm one spends a lot longer itm
Apr 09 18:58:18 <Bugpowder>	I yah
Apr 09 18:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	you need to add the entire area
Apr 09 18:58:24 <Bugpowder>	yah, we should plot the curves.
Apr 09 18:58:36 <Bugpowder>	I used to have an excel sheet that did this
Apr 09 18:58:46 <Bugpowder>	maybe I will write a little matlab toolbox for MPEX options
Apr 09 18:58:57 <Bugpowder>	I should have done it months ago
Apr 09 18:58:59 <jurov>	Namworld has it, no?
Apr 09 18:59:10 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Apr 09 18:59:16 <Bugpowder>	does his do plots?
Apr 09 18:59:17 <ThickAsThieves>	Nam's chart shows it decently
Apr 09 18:59:23 <ThickAsThieves>	just numbers
Apr 09 18:59:28 <ThickAsThieves>	but you can look at the %
Apr 09 18:59:30 <ThickAsThieves>	and see
Apr 09 18:59:36 <ThickAsThieves>	where diminshing returns show up
Apr 09 18:59:44 <Bugpowder>	I want to see the curves and EV
Apr 09 18:59:47 <ThickAsThieves>	its roughly at double value
Apr 09 19:00:00 <Bugpowder>	gotta run.
Apr 09 19:00:12 <Bugpowder>	232 is dead
Apr 09 19:00:14 <Bugpowder>	damn
Apr 09 19:03:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77969 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 19:04:40 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 232
Apr 09 19:04:43 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 232.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Apr 09 19:04:45 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 09 19:04:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 233.68090, Best ask: 234.00100, Bid-ask spread: 0.32010, Last trade: 233.36000, 24 hour volume: 104028.45730655, 24 hour low: 184.58200, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 213.48161
Apr 09 19:05:16 <deadweasel>	volume ticked up from 101000 a few hours earlier.
Apr 09 19:05:53 <deadweasel>	what does mpex stand for?  mirceau popescu's exchange?
Apr 09 19:06:00 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 09 19:06:11 <deadweasel>	i thought so, but never asked.
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Apr 09 19:07:40 <deadweasel>	oops, sorry about the u, stupid one hand type
Apr 09 19:08:06 <mircea_popescu>	ya i dunno why people give me all their us
Apr 09 19:09:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C206T] 30 @ 0.24933615 = 7.4801 BTC [+]
Apr 09 19:09:44 <deadweasel>	we can't say it in our heads w/out a U. hell, we can't even say it. you know that.
Apr 09 19:10:18 <deadweasel>	i'm from texas, i don't speak right.
Apr 09 19:10:40 <mircea_popescu>	if you're a weasel from texas no wonder you're dead.
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Apr 09 19:12:57 <deadweasel>	85mph on a couple of our highways.  i don't stand a chance.
Apr 09 19:13:09 <deadweasel>	i know, no speed limits in romania?
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Apr 09 19:18:23 <jurov>	we now know why do americans remove the u in colour, honour and other words.. to give to mircea
Apr 09 19:18:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol u redistribution
Apr 09 19:18:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00398 BTC [+]
Apr 09 19:18:47 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel i think speed limit is 55 here
Apr 09 19:19:39 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, withdrawals pls
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Apr 09 19:20:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.003989 BTC [+]
Apr 09 19:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00070579 = 1.4116 BTC [-]
Apr 09 19:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.225 BTC [+]
Apr 09 19:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.15 = 6.9 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 19:25:38 <thestringpuller>	dude HIM plummeted
Apr 09 19:25:42 <thestringpuller>	topace|2: wtf is going on?
Apr 09 19:26:34 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 19:26:35 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 94.39232 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.189161152411 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 09 19:28:01 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: how much are trilema credits now?
Apr 09 19:28:11 <mircea_popescu>	same as always
Apr 09 19:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	a bitcoin buys you like 200k
Apr 09 19:29:09 <thestringpuller>	so .01 bitcoin is like 2k?
Apr 09 19:29:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i suspect the recent plummeting of stocks
Apr 09 19:29:22 <thestringpuller>	okay I will buy more and get it passworded
Apr 09 19:29:28 <ThickAsThieves>	is people cashing out of bitcoin
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Apr 09 19:30:01 <Wickamela>	there is a waitlist of 11000 on mtgox, no one is cashing out of BTC anytime soon. hold
Apr 09 19:30:03 <thestringpuller>	ThickAsThieves: people are always cashing out of bitcoin, but there are a lot of businesses that depend on bitcoin circulating no?
Apr 09 19:30:06 <Wickamela>	I mean sell!
Apr 09 19:30:09 <Wickamela>	i mean hold?
Apr 09 19:30:21 <thestringpuller>	Don't hold spend
Apr 09 19:30:22 <Wickamela>	short the forward?
Apr 09 19:30:26 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 09 19:30:27 <thestringpuller>	spend spend spend
Apr 09 19:30:28 <Wickamela>	double put
Apr 09 19:30:45 <pizzaman1337>	11k in queue? let's say each one buys one btc...
Apr 09 19:30:47 <pizzaman1337>	;;market buy 11000
Apr 09 19:30:48 <gribble>	A market order to buy 11000 bitcoins right now would take 2771320.6718 USD and would take the last price up to 286.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 251.9382 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 74.5696 seconds
Apr 09 19:31:06 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 50000
Apr 09 19:31:07 <gribble>	A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 8459539.8771 USD and would take the last price down to 100.5100 USD, resulting in an average price of 169.1908 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 93.5936 seconds
Apr 09 19:31:19 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 5000
Apr 09 19:31:19 <gribble>	A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 1109898.4968 USD and would take the last price down to 216.4966 USD, resulting in an average price of 221.9797 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 105.9529 seconds
Apr 09 19:31:40 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 1
Apr 09 19:31:42 <gribble>	There are currently 357138.57 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 14054330.0402 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0104 seconds
Apr 09 19:31:55 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 250
Apr 09 19:31:55 <gribble>	There are currently 6925.555 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 1682002.33694 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.6257 seconds
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Apr 09 19:32:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.77959 = 7.7959 BTC [-]
Apr 09 19:32:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.002421 = 0.0048 BTC [+]
Apr 09 19:32:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00242 BTC [-]
Apr 09 19:32:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 59 @ 0.00241 = 0.1422 BTC [-]
Apr 09 19:32:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 394 @ 0.0024 = 0.9456 BTC [-]
Apr 09 19:32:48 <Wickamela>	money to be made......
Apr 09 19:33:01 <mircea_popescu>	i think Wickamela is with an educational instutition.
Apr 09 19:33:18 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. catch ya all later.
Apr 09 19:33:28 <Wickamela>	lol
Apr 09 19:33:40 <ThickAsThieves>	nite
Apr 09 19:34:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.267 = 1.869 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 19:35:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C203T] 50 @ 0.25881081 = 12.9405 BTC [+]
Apr 09 19:36:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.222 = 2.886 BTC [-]
Apr 09 19:39:46 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 09 19:39:47 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 213.68
Apr 09 19:40:28 <bVector>	lol I glanced over at $avg and thought it said 'Swag'
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Apr 09 19:40:53 <dub>	haha http://i.imgur.com/RR99IB7.jpg
Apr 09 19:42:04 <ThickAsThieves>	very cool
Apr 09 19:42:25 <Scrat>	$yoloswag
Apr 09 19:42:53 <bVector>	$yoloswag420
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Apr 09 19:43:12 <dub>	I don't know what it means or where it comes from, but every time I see yolo swag I have an urgent need to kill people
Apr 09 19:43:22 <bVector>	same
Apr 09 19:44:12 <Scrat>	dub: this pretty much http://i.imgur.com/z9LoryI.jpg
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Apr 09 19:48:42 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 09 19:48:43 <gribble>	213.75
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Apr 09 19:49:56 <KRS1>	windowlicker http://tinyurl.com/d5bmmc2
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Apr 09 19:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]
Apr 09 19:51:41 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 09 19:51:42 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 110.64919056 / 166.00821134 / 209.99169141 (22348 shares, 5,080.44 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 09 19:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.2268 = 2.268 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 19:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.268888 = 4.84 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 19:59:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.77 = 3.85 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 19:59:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000689 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:00:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.26888799 = 1.3444 BTC [-]
Apr 09 20:01:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.003989 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 20:02:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.003989 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:02:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00189 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 20:03:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000689 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:04:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.0103 = 0.0309 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:05:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0019 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 20:08:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00189 BTC [-]
Apr 09 20:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00283 = 2.83 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:09:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 19 @ 0.0019 = 0.0361 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 20:10:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01199 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 20:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.23499991 = 5.875 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:15:38 <deadweasel>	 /j #ozcoin
Apr 09 20:15:46 <deadweasel>	shit
Apr 09 20:17:02 <kakobrekla>	dammit i thought there was drama not a typo
Apr 09 20:19:05 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 09 20:19:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 228.05000, Best ask: 229.30000, Bid-ask spread: 1.25000, Last trade: 229.30000, 24 hour volume: 106884.83665399, 24 hour low: 186.50100, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 214.91395
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Apr 09 20:20:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.00199999 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:23:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 259 @ 0.00070579 = 0.1828 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 20:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.235 = 0.705 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 20:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.23799999 = 0.476 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:32:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.23799999 = 0.952 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:32:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.24 = 0.48 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:32:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 22 @ 0.24 = 5.28 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:32:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00277899 = 7.2254 BTC [-]
Apr 09 20:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.24 = 0.72 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.24 = 0.72 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 20:40:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.24999995 BTC [+]
Apr 09 20:40:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00277899 = 0.2779 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 20:51:21 <bgupta_>	bitcoinity down for an extended period?
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Apr 09 20:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.24999994 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Apr 09 20:54:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C326T] 500 @ 0.06113284 = 30.5664 BTC
Apr 09 20:54:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00277899 = 2.779 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 21:06:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]
Apr 09 21:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.26888799 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:08:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 80 @ 0.1 = 8 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 21:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.223 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.222 = 1.332 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:14:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.20001 = 4.0002 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:14:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:14:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.1821 = 0.5463 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 21:15:57 <ThickAsThieves>	lol vtx
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Apr 09 21:18:03 <unbalanced_>	Laugh it up, fuzzball.
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Apr 09 21:18:52 <unbalanced_>	Meanwhile I'm over here like Steve Buscemi in the Wedding Singer:
Apr 09 21:18:59 <unbalanced_>	http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/buscemi-650x395.jpg
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Apr 09 21:24:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 71 @ 0.002885 = 0.2048 BTC [+]
Apr 09 21:24:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.002889 = 2.889 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 21:26:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2500 @ 0.00288 = 7.2 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:27:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00289 = 0.0867 BTC [+]
Apr 09 21:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.24999995 = 0.5 BTC [+]
Apr 09 21:27:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 58 @ 0.00291 = 0.1688 BTC [+]
Apr 09 21:27:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 58 @ 0.00292 = 0.1694 BTC [+]
Apr 09 21:27:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.00293 = 1.172 BTC [+]
Apr 09 21:27:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1500 @ 0.00298 = 4.47 BTC [+]
Apr 09 21:27:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.00299 = 2.99 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 21:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.19 = 0.95 BTC [+]
Apr 09 21:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:28:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:28:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.18 = 1.44 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:28:19 <kakobrekla>	!t h vtx
Apr 09 21:28:21 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.18000000 / 0.22361213 / 0.29999990 (627 shares, 140.20480509 BTC), 7D: 0.18000000 / 0.33187559 / 0.47996600 (1557 shares, 516.73029241 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.42338941 / 0.79900000 (14257 shares, 6036.26283794 BTC)
Apr 09 21:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.101 = 2.202 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 21:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.101 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:30:46 <thestringpuller>	and it's dying
Apr 09 21:30:56 <thestringpuller>	are people doing a run on havelock?
Apr 09 21:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.101 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:31:04 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Apr 09 21:31:06 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00065356 / 0.0006955 / 0.000712 (561407 shares, 390.46 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00068884 / 0.00071514 (2023710 shares, 1,394.02 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068897 / 0.00077505 (9517059 shares, 6,557.01 BTC)
Apr 09 21:31:09 <thestringpuller>	whoa
Apr 09 21:31:16 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 09 21:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 110.64919056 / 169.34556059 / 222.23794073 (21548 shares, 4,745.51 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 09 21:37:50 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 09 21:37:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 231.06877, Best ask: 232.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.93123, Last trade: 232.00000, 24 hour volume: 108186.63349933, 24 hour low: 187.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 215.80371
Apr 09 21:39:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.769 = 2.307 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:39:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76204 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 21:43:46 <kakobrekla>	pirate dat you?
Apr 09 21:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.1 = 11 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:44:35 <thestringpuller>	huh?
Apr 09 21:44:43 <thestringpuller>	pirate wha?
Apr 09 21:44:58 *	ChaangNoi (~chaangnoi@171.5.200.238) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Apr 09 21:45:07 <soypirate>	its me
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Apr 09 21:45:23 <kakobrekla>	:o
Apr 09 21:46:43 <soypirate>	gotta go
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Apr 09 21:48:22 <dub>	pirate has found veganism and has com ehome to pay back
Apr 09 21:48:57 <kakobrekla>	ne now pirates soy shipments on the high seas
Apr 09 21:49:04 <kakobrekla>	he*
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Apr 09 21:50:02 <dub>	what was the final booty count again? "250k"?
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Apr 09 21:50:12 <kakobrekla>	nothing but guesses
Apr 09 21:50:18 <dub>	;;calc 250000*[ticker --last]
Apr 09 21:50:19 <gribble>	57775250
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Apr 09 21:50:37 <kakobrekla>	also pricing old heists at current prices is meh
Apr 09 21:50:45 <dub>	NO U
Apr 09 21:50:48 <kakobrekla>	:D
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Apr 09 21:55:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7463 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:55:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7462 = 1.4924 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:55:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.746 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 21:55:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.745 = 7.45 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:56:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7442 = 1.4884 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:56:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.743 = 1.486 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:56:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.741 = 1.482 BTC [-]
Apr 09 21:56:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 22:03:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 09 22:03:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 233.99899, Best ask: 234.98738, Bid-ask spread: 0.98839, Last trade: 234.99000, 24 hour volume: 108924.00210361, 24 hour low: 187.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 216.17786
Apr 09 22:03:39 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 09 22:03:40 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.12261 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00224969787063 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
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Apr 09 22:06:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77967 BTC [+]
Apr 09 22:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
Apr 09 22:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.1 = 6.6 BTC [-]
Apr 09 22:08:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.1 = 4.4 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 22:16:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1200 @ 0.01 = 12 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 22:21:11 <Bugpowder_>	no more wall at 212
Apr 09 22:21:13 <Bugpowder_>	:(
Apr 09 22:21:37 <Bugpowder_>	maybe that means a 5000 BTC buy is coming soon??
Apr 09 22:21:41 <Bugpowder_>	:)
Apr 09 22:21:45 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe
Apr 09 22:21:51 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe they ar emoving it upward
Apr 09 22:22:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i decided
Apr 09 22:22:12 <ThickAsThieves>	that
Apr 09 22:22:21 <ThickAsThieves>	we should stop looking bids 0
Apr 09 22:22:31 <ThickAsThieves>	and use something more realistic
Apr 09 22:22:33 <Bugpowder_>	y?
Apr 09 22:22:36 <ThickAsThieves>	like bids 100
Apr 09 22:22:40 <Bugpowder_>	heh
Apr 09 22:22:46 <ThickAsThieves>	to reflect serious buyers
Apr 09 22:22:53 <ThickAsThieves>	rather than dreamers
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Apr 09 22:22:58 <Bugpowder_>	ok
Apr 09 22:23:00 <Bugpowder_>	u do that
Apr 09 22:23:03 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 09 22:23:03 <Bugpowder_>	i'm doing bids 0
Apr 09 22:23:06 <ThickAsThieves>	ok
Apr 09 22:23:12 <Bugpowder_>	we will see who wins
Apr 09 22:23:15 <ThickAsThieves>	then we will wrestle?
Apr 09 22:23:29 <kakobrekla>	how do you determine the winner?
Apr 09 22:23:30 <ThickAsThieves>	you'll probably win
Apr 09 22:24:34 <Bugpowder_>	mps bot is so fucked up
Apr 09 22:24:48 <Bugpowder_>	calls selling for over 1 btc
Apr 09 22:24:56 <thestringpuller>	trades are super stale
Apr 09 22:25:25 <Bugpowder_>	no wonder the crossover point was wack
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Apr 09 22:25:32 <Bugpowder_>	I shoulda checked
Apr 09 22:25:34 <kakobrekla>	oh lol
Apr 09 22:25:38 <ThickAsThieves>	thats funny
Apr 09 22:25:48 <ThickAsThieves>	doesnt that expose him
Apr 09 22:26:17 <Bugpowder_>	god damn it
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Apr 09 22:27:00 <thestringpuller>	ThickAsThieves: what did he mean?
Apr 09 22:27:36 <ThickAsThieves>	which part?
Apr 09 22:27:55 <thestringpuller>	mps bot being fucked up and no wonder the crossover point was wack
Apr 09 22:28:13 <ThickAsThieves>	earlier he bought options that were resold
Apr 09 22:28:18 <Bugpowder_>	I bought mid market calls
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Apr 09 22:28:46 <Bugpowder_>	assuming the bot was pricing correctly
Apr 09 22:29:00 <Bugpowder_>	but his algo needs 'tuning'
Apr 09 22:29:14 <thestringpuller>	what do yuo mean you bought mid market calls?
Apr 09 22:29:15 <Bugpowder_>	for example http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.C047T
Apr 09 22:29:25 <Bugpowder_>	so wack
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Apr 09 22:31:09 <ThickAsThieves>	so if you excercise that one do you lose more coins than you paid?
Apr 09 22:31:10 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 09 22:31:24 <Bugpowder_>	well that is always the case
Apr 09 22:31:47 <thestringpuller>	yea
Apr 09 22:32:01 <thestringpuller>	calls over 1.05 have a non-real number for break-even price
Apr 09 22:32:05 <thestringpuller>	er 1.0
Apr 09 22:32:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;calc 47/(1-1.05949386)
Apr 09 22:32:12 <gribble>	-789.997488816
Apr 09 22:32:22 <ThickAsThieves>	better not excercise that one!
Apr 09 22:32:46 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Apr 09 22:33:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder if he put a 1btc ceiling on the bot bid price or not
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Apr 09 22:34:21 <thestringpuller>	mtgox is stale
Apr 09 22:34:23 <thestringpuller>	this is so bad
Apr 09 22:34:26 <thestringpuller>	I think it's broke
Apr 09 22:34:52 <ThickAsThieves>	its just napping
Apr 09 22:35:04 <ThickAsThieves>	needs to rest before next rally
Apr 09 22:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 22:40:31 <Bugpowder_>	I made a mistake
Apr 09 22:40:32 <Bugpowder_>	:(
Apr 09 22:40:52 <Bugpowder_>	I should have written some analysis code for this.
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Apr 09 22:45:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.767 = 2.301 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 22:56:23 <KRS1>	how can i get an actual quote
Apr 09 22:56:42 <Bugpowder_>	bitcoinity is updating
Apr 09 22:56:46 <Bugpowder_>	i think
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Apr 09 22:57:03 <KRS1>	thanks
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Apr 09 22:58:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
Apr 09 22:58:08 <bgupta_>	shit bug is blabbing
Apr 09 22:59:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 11 @ 0.0065 = 0.0715 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 23:00:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00319 = 0.0319 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 23:06:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 505 @ 0.00319 = 1.611 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 23:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 505 @ 0.00283546 = 1.4319 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 23:15:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [+]
Apr 09 23:15:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9141 @ 0.00070579 = 6.4516 BTC [-]
Apr 09 23:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.21512 = 2.1512 BTC [-]
Apr 09 23:19:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 209 @ 0.00070978 = 0.1483 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 23:24:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0029 = 0.058 BTC [-]
Apr 09 23:24:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 75 @ 0.0029 = 0.2175 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 23:26:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8000 @ 0.00277899 = 22.2319 BTC [-]
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Apr 09 23:49:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.778 = 2.334 BTC [+]
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Apr 09 23:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.1800001 = 0.72 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 00:17:20 <KRS1>	wtf
Apr 10 00:18:01 <ThickAsThieves>	ftw
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Apr 10 00:40:45 <taub>	i this support breaks we might see 210
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Apr 10 00:43:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 00:48:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.778 = 2.334 BTC [+]
Apr 10 00:50:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 31 @ 0.003989 = 0.1237 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 00:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 35 @ 0.185 = 6.475 BTC [+]
Apr 10 00:52:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 9 @ 0.004 = 0.036 BTC [+]
Apr 10 01:00:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.219 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 01:03:54 <ChaangNoi>	zupall
Apr 10 01:04:02 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 240
Apr 10 01:04:05 <gribble>	There are currently 2705.7078 bitcoins offered at or under 240.0 USD, worth 644031.859075 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
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Apr 10 01:05:04 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 10 01:05:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 232.30655, Best ask: 232.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19344, Last trade: 232.30655, 24 hour volume: 106394.93440125, 24 hour low: 189.60123, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 218.94750
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Apr 10 01:16:47 <ChaangNoi>	where is everyone?
Apr 10 01:16:59 <mod6>	lurking
Apr 10 01:17:01 <jcpham>	getting drunk?
Apr 10 01:17:02 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Apr 10 01:17:22 <ChaangNoi>	yeah getting drunk im sure is a good thing for the americans now
Apr 10 01:17:26 <jcpham>	i ate a corndog today and worked 14 hours
Apr 10 01:17:30 <ChaangNoi>	europeans i guess still sleeping
Apr 10 01:17:34 <jcpham>	i think i made a fuckton of money last night
Apr 10 01:17:37 <jcpham>	not really sure
Apr 10 01:17:40 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Apr 10 01:17:46 <ChaangNoi>	why do you still work?
Apr 10 01:17:51 <jcpham>	was thinking of ignoring it and going to bed
Apr 10 01:18:03 <jcpham>	get up and go to work again tomorrow
Apr 10 01:18:08 <ChaangNoi>	i did not make a "fuck ton" last night but did well
Apr 10 01:18:16 <jcpham>	i'm not even sure anymore ChaangNoi
Apr 10 01:18:20 <jcpham>	because i'm a amchine
Apr 10 01:18:20 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Apr 10 01:18:25 <jcpham>	machine
Apr 10 01:18:25 <ChaangNoi>	cool
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Apr 10 01:30:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2218 @ 0.000712 = 1.5792 BTC [+]
Apr 10 01:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8617 @ 0.000714 = 6.1525 BTC [+]
Apr 10 01:30:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2098 @ 0.000714 = 1.498 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 01:37:18 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 10 01:37:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 234.00001, Best ask: 234.88990, Bid-ask spread: 0.88989, Last trade: 234.00001, 24 hour volume: 106015.61703006, 24 hour low: 189.60123, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 219.19681
Apr 10 01:37:23 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 01:37:25 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 5.783585 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0115902395838 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU).
Apr 10 01:38:32 <Bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154814.0
Apr 10 01:38:36 <Bowjob>	Could this guy be a runner?
Apr 10 01:38:39 <Bowjob>	>:(
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Apr 10 01:42:02 <ChaangNoi>	anyone who borrows btc is odds are a runner
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Apr 10 01:43:24 <Bowjob>	Aight, I can accept that I lost 3,5
Apr 10 01:43:37 <Bowjob>	What can I do to ruin him, suppose he is indeed a scammer?
Apr 10 01:44:02 <Bowjob>	I have his facebook, 400+ friends list, he seems legit. Names of family members, ect. Gee
Apr 10 01:44:22 <Bowjob>	it seems to be colleagues, hs classmates, univ classmates
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Apr 10 01:52:47 <ChaangNoi>	give him a bit of time to make it right, but really if you wanted to just hire a hit man... or whatever you feel is right...
Apr 10 01:53:26 <ChaangNoi>	however you were warned loaning btc is a stupid idea so its partly your fault here
Apr 10 01:55:46 <Bowjob>	Yeah, that's why I could afford 3.5 BTC.
Apr 10 01:56:27 <Bowjob>	Hitman costs 20k, according to whitewolves was it
Apr 10 01:56:51 <Bowjob>	BTC needs to be around 10k ea, not economical for me at this point
Apr 10 01:57:37 <Bowjob>	even then, id imagine tradefortress would be more pissed than me. he has 29 btc on that guy
Apr 10 01:57:43 <Bowjob>	ill sit back and watch.
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Apr 10 02:09:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 13 @ 0.0029 = 0.0377 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 02:20:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00188 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 02:23:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76001 BTC [-]
Apr 10 02:24:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 02:44:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 02:56:07 <mircea_popescu>	gooood mornin'
Apr 10 03:00:16 <ZedsterX>	moaning :)
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Apr 10 03:02:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7769 BTC [+]
Apr 10 03:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 10 03:04:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01196 BTC [-]
Apr 10 03:04:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 18 @ 0.01197 = 0.2155 BTC [+]
Apr 10 03:04:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01199 BTC [+]
Apr 10 03:08:29 <ChaangNoi>	lol at am?
Apr 10 03:08:58 <ChaangNoi>	7769 seems fair
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Apr 10 03:16:29 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 10 03:16:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 234.88701, Best ask: 234.99988, Bid-ask spread: 0.11287, Last trade: 234.99988, 24 hour volume: 104419.56405479, 24 hour low: 189.60123, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 220.28807
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Apr 10 03:30:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00071213 = 13.8153 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 03:36:28 <ChaangNoi>	bulls are running again
Apr 10 03:41:35 <rikur>	could you review my bet of gox to 1000$ before end of april. I set it to end within 2 weeks to make it a bit more interesting ;)
Apr 10 03:43:03 <ChaangNoi>	is it just me or is the forum down?
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Apr 10 03:45:50 <Uglux>	quite unstable here
Apr 10 03:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	isn't it down/slow/whatever most fo the time ?
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Apr 10 03:49:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00070927 = 4.6103 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 03:55:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01199 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 03:58:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00188 BTC [-]
Apr 10 04:00:58 <taub>	only thing worse than laggy data
Apr 10 04:01:00 <taub>	is no data at all
Apr 10 04:02:25 <mircea_popescu>	plz to not come bother me
Apr 10 04:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	i call da police.
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Apr 10 04:09:44 <bowjob>	https://blockchain.info/address/12RYJjGk22NiNbhTHffCrCso4XgVzet5Eh`dvi
Apr 10 04:09:44 <bowjob>	hdmi to dvi
Apr 10 04:09:44 <bowjob>	0`wii u dvi
Apr 10 04:09:44 <bowjob>	hdmi to dvi
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Apr 10 04:10:04 <bowjob>	https://blockchain.info/address/12RYJjGk22NiNbhTHffCrCso4XgVzet5Eh
Apr 10 04:10:09 <bowjob>	Who owns this address?
Apr 10 04:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	what, that works now ?
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Apr 10 04:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob https://blockchain.info/tx/fcc667ab400ab58ee120e4b5a3fc0eb54b8a38c9da35ddb26a41d6df5fb9d8a4
Apr 10 04:12:32 <mircea_popescu>	that may interest you. connects it to leandro cesar, the mercado bitcoin guy
Apr 10 04:12:56 <bowjob>	Oh I see.. didnt he get hacked
Apr 10 04:14:20 <mircea_popescu>	https://blockchain.info/tx/d4755b14eda35d28b6ac8aa3f57fec8280f8ef1f04efe3c22bf5b67e936531f1
Apr 10 04:14:23 <mircea_popescu>	and then it ends up at gox
Apr 10 04:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	all this is 2011 you'll note
Apr 10 04:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	tbh it looks a lot like a gox cold wallet.
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Apr 10 04:33:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77649 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 04:43:43 <bowjob>	http://imageshack.us/f/600/avalononebay.jpg/
Apr 10 04:43:47 <bowjob>	Oh lala
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Apr 10 04:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	and we're going down.
Apr 10 04:45:48 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 10 04:45:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.50000, Best ask: 235.63800, Bid-ask spread: 0.13800, Last trade: 235.63800, 24 hour volume: 106384.26600045, 24 hour low: 191.55000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 221.80184
Apr 10 04:45:55 <mircea_popescu>	ono. 230 was broken
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Apr 10 04:46:25 <mircea_popescu>	90.02 @	232.00 just traded
Apr 10 04:49:28 <bowjob>	pop goes the bubble
Apr 10 04:49:54 <mircea_popescu>	seems it recovered
Apr 10 04:50:06 <mircea_popescu>	if someone dumps 900 next time tho...
Apr 10 04:50:10 <taub>	i'm afraid we might break out to the upside...
Apr 10 04:50:36 <bowjob>	theres over 10k at gox waiting to get verified
Apr 10 04:50:48 <bowjob>	hard to imagine they will register to dump
Apr 10 04:50:49 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 10 04:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Apr 10 04:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	i always quesrtoned this, everyone is like "o, queue at gox"
Apr 10 04:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	for all you know it's people who had 50 btc they forgot about
Apr 10 04:51:22 <taub>	you dont have to get verified to deposit btc
Apr 10 04:51:34 <mircea_popescu>	but you'd need rto be to withdraw your funds
Apr 10 04:51:44 <mircea_popescu>	for all we know most of those accounts are already out of the mkt
Apr 10 04:51:54 <mircea_popescu>	jkust sitting ion whatever cash mtgox owes them waiting
Apr 10 04:52:00 <taub>	oh, right
Apr 10 04:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	(and for all we know mtgox doesn't even have that cash ready)
Apr 10 04:52:11 <mircea_popescu>	but that's a different kettle.
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Apr 10 04:53:34 <dub>	;;nethash
Apr 10 04:53:34 <gribble>	65674.1880238
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Apr 10 04:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.287 BTC [+]
Apr 10 05:00:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8401 @ 0.0007035 = 5.9101 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:00:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3403 @ 0.00070202 = 2.389 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:01:34 <ChaangNoi>	there is over 18,000 waiting to get verified at gox
Apr 10 05:01:54 <ChaangNoi>	i have people coming to me and trying to buy in thailand, like 100,000 usd per order, its fucking crazy
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Apr 10 05:03:00 <ChaangNoi>	i think most of it is new people
Apr 10 05:03:09 <ChaangNoi>	new blood into the market, but sure, some to take it out
Apr 10 05:04:13 <bowjob>	i already stopped talking about btc irl
Apr 10 05:04:24 <bowjob>	fuck this shit. i told them to buy at 13.5. i told them i cashed out
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Apr 10 05:07:16 <bowjob>	hey chang, i had 3 thai dishes today, pad ped, green curry and cashew chicken
Apr 10 05:07:29 <bowjob>	gc > pad ped >>>>>>>>>> casher chicken
Apr 10 05:07:34 <bowjob>	cashew chicken
Apr 10 05:07:41 <bowjob>	what do u think?
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Apr 10 05:10:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75651 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:10:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7565 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:10:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75641 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:10:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7564 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:10:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.74201 = 5.1941 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:10:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.742 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:10:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7402 = 1.4804 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:10:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7401 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:10:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.74 = 3.7 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:10:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.73925 = 16.2635 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:12:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.739211 = 7.3921 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:12:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.73921 = 9.6097 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:12:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.7391 = 5.9128 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:13:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7391 = 7.391 BTC [-]
Apr 10 05:13:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 05:26:02 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 10 05:26:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 240.00000, Best ask: 241.67000, Bid-ask spread: 1.67000, Last trade: 241.67000, 24 hour volume: 107066.49201964, 24 hour low: 193.50300, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 222.26621
Apr 10 05:26:15 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 10 05:26:18 <gribble>	There are currently 33211201 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12846229.62 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0136 seconds
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Apr 10 05:36:23 <bowjob>	"I'm working with Exante.eu to broker deals getting London hedge funds into BTC. We've got more than $1 bn. lined "
Apr 10 05:36:27 <bowjob>	Max KEiser
Apr 10 05:36:28 <bowjob>	lol
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Apr 10 05:36:56 <saulimus>	he's giving us a tip to buy now.
Apr 10 05:37:07 <saulimus>	get rich off their backs
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Apr 10 05:40:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.776 BTC [+]
Apr 10 05:41:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7759 = 2.3277 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 05:44:05 <rikur>	bowjob: Exante already has a portfolio of 81k BTC, I was shocked to read it
Apr 10 05:44:31 <bowjob>	1 b in btc would baloon us to 10b? market cap?
Apr 10 05:44:45 <bowjob>	im gonna be a millionaire in fiat value
Apr 10 05:45:09 <bowjob>	hopefully people start accepting btc for houses in vancouver
Apr 10 05:45:17 <bowjob>	id love be a landowner at age 21, hehe
Apr 10 05:45:32 <rikur>	oh hi vancouver mate
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Apr 10 05:46:06 <bowjob>	hi
Apr 10 05:46:12 <rikur>	bowjob: I'm looking to buy a penthouse with a couple bitcoins :)
Apr 10 05:46:15 <bowjob>	mhm
Apr 10 05:46:25 <bowjob>	where in van?
Apr 10 05:46:31 <rikur>	dt
Apr 10 05:46:36 <bowjob>	id love to get my hands on dt as well
Apr 10 05:46:41 <bowjob>	i heard most of it is empty
Apr 10 05:46:43 <Uglux>	get a room ^^
Apr 10 05:46:45 <bowjob>	id atually live in it
Apr 10 05:46:47 <rikur>	yeah it's crazy
Apr 10 05:46:53 <bowjob>	i love downtown
Apr 10 05:47:05 <rikur>	I'm down downtown, seymour and robson
Apr 10 05:47:11 <rikur>	view to granville st
Apr 10 05:47:12 <bowjob>	its my cakeday tomorrow, ill head over to downtown for nice meals
Apr 10 05:47:16 <bowjob>	yeah that place is awesome
Apr 10 05:47:32 <bowjob>	my friends know of my bitcoin riches, they dont seem to ask for handouts which is great
Apr 10 05:47:32 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 10 05:47:50 <bowjob>	imma head over to le crocodile, get the chef menu
Apr 10 05:47:50 <rikur>	riches?
Apr 10 05:47:54 <bowjob>	for 3 of mah buddies
Apr 10 05:48:04 <rikur>	I damn wish I had more bitcoins, but I'm not rich yet
Apr 10 05:48:13 <bowjob>	umm, i took some fiat values, im not rich lol
Apr 10 05:48:31 <bowjob>	i made it so that i cant lose in this game. i got my money out, and then some
Apr 10 05:48:34 <bowjob>	im set for another year
Apr 10 05:48:44 <rikur>	sweet
Apr 10 05:48:47 <bowjob>	and, i have an avalon coming yyeah?
Apr 10 05:48:49 <bowjob>	^
Apr 10 05:49:03 <rikur>	I mined my coins, only bought 75 more about a week ago.
Apr 10 05:49:07 <bowjob>	ah
Apr 10 05:49:13 <bowjob>	you got an asic?
Apr 10 05:49:21 <rikur>	nah, this was years ago
Apr 10 05:49:31 <bowjob>	i have a buddy who mined 500 btc
Apr 10 05:49:37 <bowjob>	sold them for a few hundred bucks..
Apr 10 05:49:39 <rikur>	12 GPUS running and huming 24/7. Seems like it was worth it
Apr 10 05:49:39 <bowjob>	>_>
Apr 10 05:50:10 <bowjob>	so, cakeday. to le crocodile
Apr 10 05:50:14 <rikur>	hehe
Apr 10 05:50:16 <bowjob>	nomnom
Apr 10 05:50:31 <bowjob>	i havent really splurged at all
Apr 10 05:50:35 <rikur>	hope you get your avalon soon.. Once they hit the market, the profits are going to collapse.. And soon bit players are going to start getting asics.
Apr 10 05:50:48 <bowjob>	coulda walked into hermes shop and walk out with stuff
Apr 10 05:50:51 <rikur>	but if you're lucky, you could get a month or two headstart.
Apr 10 05:50:52 <bowjob>	not my style tho
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Apr 10 05:51:09 <bowjob>	Well, im pretty sure id get at least 170 BTC back
Apr 10 05:51:32 <bowjob>	bfl seems to be in trouble
Apr 10 05:51:43 <rikur>	I pre-orederd BFL but cancelled it after waiting for 6 months. BS service.
Apr 10 05:51:49 <bowjob>	i wish i bought more avalons
Apr 10 05:51:49 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 10 05:51:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.01000, Best ask: 249.49900, Bid-ask spread: 0.48900, Last trade: 249.49900, 24 hour volume: 108720.87911572, 24 hour low: 193.81110, 24 hour high: 249.00000, 24 hour vwap: 223.14239
Apr 10 05:51:54 <bowjob>	i would sell one of them
Apr 10 05:51:54 <pizzaman1337>	250 here we come
Apr 10 05:52:07 <bowjob>	and mine one. that way, i get my cake and it too
Apr 10 05:52:15 <rikur>	pizzaman1337: 1000$ will be hit before end of week :)
Apr 10 05:52:23 <pizzaman1337>	$1000 is kinda high...
Apr 10 05:52:27 <pizzaman1337>	for this week
Apr 10 05:52:28 <rikur>	nah
Apr 10 05:52:34 <bowjob>	theres this guy named blacklilac, who offerd 171 BTC for an avalon
Apr 10 05:52:38 <bowjob>	hes a vancouverite too
Apr 10 05:52:45 <pizzaman1337>	;;asks 1000
Apr 10 05:52:48 <gribble>	There are currently 27967.965 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 12626807.4112 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0026 seconds
Apr 10 05:53:05 <pizzaman1337>	;;bids 0
Apr 10 05:53:07 <gribble>	There are currently 33210999 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12758878.916 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.5050 seconds
Apr 10 05:53:15 <bowjob>	rikur. i have an uncle who owns 3 houses. he makes bank
Apr 10 05:53:32 <bowjob>	i wanna do taht shit as well.. , it seems the prices of houses will go down soon
Apr 10 05:53:42 <bowjob>	if btc rises enough, ill strike this shit
Apr 10 05:53:48 <punkman>	;;bids 100
Apr 10 05:53:49 <gribble>	There are currently 49348.324 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 7949601.91864 USD in total. | Data vintage: 61.0224 seconds
Apr 10 05:54:00 <rikur>	bowjob: yeah the housing prices here are a joke. I moved in about a year ago, and won't buy until I'm a bitcoin millionaire or there's a correction.
Apr 10 05:54:11 <bowjob>	btw, have you been to bella gelateria?
Apr 10 05:54:23 <bowjob>	i love that place. <3
Apr 10 05:54:28 <rikur>	bowjob: not unless it's in yaletown?
Apr 10 05:54:45 <bowjob>	west cordova, close to canada plac
Apr 10 05:54:52 <rikur>	I can't remember the name of the place, but the there's an italian one I think.
Apr 10 05:54:59 <rikur>	hmm. maybe not then.
Apr 10 05:55:00 <bowjob>	yeah, bella gelateria.
Apr 10 05:55:19 <rikur>	I guess "close" is so relative when you live dt
Apr 10 05:55:27 <bowjob>	http://www.yelp.ca/biz/bella-gelateria-vancouver-2
Apr 10 05:55:40 <bowjob>	theres this place i want to go to.. its called Finch's coffee and tea house
Apr 10 05:55:46 <bowjob>	i heard its godtier shop.
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Apr 10 05:56:03 <rikur>	bowjob: I've heard it's really nice, but small and crowded
Apr 10 05:56:14 <bowjob>	im gonna try it as well... so many top tier place in vancouver its like.. the best foods congregate there
Apr 10 05:56:18 <bowjob>	mhm
Apr 10 05:56:23 <bowjob>	ive been to miku
Apr 10 05:56:42 <bowjob>	with my buddy.. we were gonna go to exp bar that day
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Apr 10 05:56:59 <bowjob>	but it was closed.. and we werent even dressed for the occation
Apr 10 05:57:09 <rikur>	my recommendations: Sunday brunch at Beyond Restaurant (25$ / person), Twisted Fork (very small and nice restaurant)..
Apr 10 05:57:10 <bowjob>	lots of business suits over there
Apr 10 05:57:22 <bowjob>	never heard those places
Apr 10 05:57:50 <rikur>	trying to think of more but am too tired and medicated :D
Apr 10 05:57:54 <bowjob>	you like sushi?
Apr 10 05:57:57 <rikur>	yeah
Apr 10 05:58:06 <bowjob>	octopus garden at kitsilano
Apr 10 05:58:20 <rikur>	hehe, you know what? I've never been to kits
Apr 10 05:58:22 <bowjob>	i wanted to get the 100 dollar menu but the head chef wasnt there, so i had the 65 dollar one instead
Apr 10 05:58:26 <bowjob>	ah
Apr 10 05:58:37 <bowjob>	me neither. till i went there exclusively for that place
Apr 10 05:58:47 <rikur>	But I should explore a lot now, still waiting for my new LMO and Work Permit.
Apr 10 05:58:52 <rikur>	have all the time in the world
Apr 10 05:59:01 <rikur>	hell, if bitcoin keeps this up I might not need the job :D
Apr 10 05:59:09 <bowjob>	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_v45-TBo7M6U/TNEJ5Mwu7ZI/AAAAAAAAMZQ/d12LBCBsids/s1600/Sashimi+Platter.jpg
Apr 10 05:59:12 <bowjob>	That.
Apr 10 05:59:21 <bowjob>	I'll have 2 parties for my cake day.
Apr 10 05:59:25 <bowjob>	1 with fam, 1 with friends
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Apr 10 05:59:31 <rikur>	oh and ofcourse, best nachos are at The Foundation
Apr 10 06:00:02 <bowjob>	have you ever been to vij's?
Apr 10 06:00:02 <rikur>	that's a nice platter :)
Apr 10 06:00:15 <bowjob>	yeha, you know what. that platter
Apr 10 06:00:21 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 10 06:00:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.87990, Best ask: 249.87999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 249.87999, 24 hour volume: 109125.46115724, 24 hour low: 193.84000, 24 hour high: 249.87999, 24 hour vwap: 223.42658
Apr 10 06:00:22 <rikur>	nah.. I have a bad habit of sticking to a couple places I like :/
Apr 10 06:00:25 <bowjob>	is part of a course
Apr 10 06:00:40 <bowjob>	you can eat a godtier meal for 2.. for less than 1 bitcoin
Apr 10 06:00:49 <rikur>	haha
Apr 10 06:00:55 <bowjob>	yeah me too. but i love trying out new places
Apr 10 06:01:05 <bowjob>	im a bit of a foodie so
Apr 10 06:01:11 <rikur>	so do you have hundreds or thousands coins?
Apr 10 06:01:24 <bowjob>	just, hundreds
Apr 10 06:01:30 <rikur>	check, same here
Apr 10 06:01:35 <bowjob>	but im set in fiat terms
Apr 10 06:01:57 <bowjob>	i havent worked for like 8 months now LOL
Apr 10 06:02:19 <bowjob>	i got most of my BTC when they were 13 dollars ea
Apr 10 06:02:19 <rikur>	dunno.. I just got a golden handshake. and it's gone.
Apr 10 06:02:23 <rikur>	oh sweet
Apr 10 06:02:25 <bowjob>	just before the great rally
Apr 10 06:02:30 <rikur>	so you've been seriously cashing out
Apr 10 06:02:35 <bowjob>	nah
Apr 10 06:02:43 <bowjob>	no point
Apr 10 06:02:46 <bowjob>	i dont need the cash
Apr 10 06:02:52 <bowjob>	i want a house. but i cant afford it
Apr 10 06:02:59 <bowjob>	i can afford everything else
Apr 10 06:03:09 <bowjob>	so having 50k in the bank wont help me
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Apr 10 06:03:16 <rikur>	Hehe, I'm saving for my houses too. But also for my immortality and trip to mars.
Apr 10 06:03:21 <bowjob>	haha
Apr 10 06:03:23 <eeecurrency>	I bought $45 worth at $9 ... wow... it's worth like $1150 now - :\ Who knew...
Apr 10 06:03:41 <bowjob>	tbh, we're both gonna be very wealthy, it seems.
Apr 10 06:03:50 <taub>	yep
Apr 10 06:03:56 <taub>	totally normal behavior
Apr 10 06:03:57 <bowjob>	I want to open a foodcart in vancouver
Apr 10 06:04:03 <taub>	price just comes to a standstill
Apr 10 06:04:03 <EEmsD>	HAHA !
Apr 10 06:04:06 <taub>	for 5 minutes
Apr 10 06:04:47 <bowjob>	I have a friend who got 19 bitcoins when he used school computers
Apr 10 06:04:53 <bowjob>	back in the day
Apr 10 06:05:09 <bowjob>	it was still on his account.., I helped him transfer it to electrum
Apr 10 06:05:26 <rikur>	just imagine when 1 satoshi = 1 $
Apr 10 06:05:45 <bowjob>	too bullish for me
Apr 10 06:05:45 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 10 06:05:53 <bowjob>	1 satoshi 1 cent, maybe in 10 years
Apr 10 06:06:04 <rikur>	you'd be surprised
Apr 10 06:06:06 <bowjob>	ooh. i got an idea.
Apr 10 06:06:14 <bowjob>	i want to eat the worlds most expensive hotdog
Apr 10 06:06:24 <bowjob>	!!. its only .5 btc
Apr 10 06:06:29 <bowjob>	heck less than that
Apr 10 06:06:45 <bowjob>	.4 btc?
Apr 10 06:07:24 <rikur>	Just one of the tax haves got whistle blowed recently: 40 TRILLION USD of hidden money, and now the govts are stupid enough to go after it.. If they do, the money will find a new home and some of that will go to bitcoins too.
Apr 10 06:07:50 <bowjob>	yeaps
Apr 10 06:07:55 <rikur>	bowjob: let's order a set if the agrees to sell them in BTC?
Apr 10 06:07:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7749 BTC [-]
Apr 10 06:08:08 <bowjob>	huh?
Apr 10 06:08:16 <bowjob>	set of.. the hotdogs?
Apr 10 06:08:17 <bowjob>	:3
Apr 10 06:08:18 <rikur>	the hot dogs :D
Apr 10 06:08:20 <bowjob>	xD
Apr 10 06:08:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.775 BTC [+]
Apr 10 06:08:39 <bowjob>	not a bad idea
Apr 10 06:08:52 <rikur>	the guy could get the title for worlds most expensive hot dogs for the next 100 years :DD
Apr 10 06:09:04 <bowjob>	if not, then i dont mind spending fiat either way
Apr 10 06:09:32 <bowjob>	i find calculating prices of goods in btc a good mental exercise
Apr 10 06:09:40 <rikur>	nah, I'm a scrooge. If it doesn't promote bitcoins, I'll rather eat canned soup :D
Apr 10 06:10:03 <bowjob>	so, 0.4 BTC for that glorious hotdog
Apr 10 06:10:41 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 10 06:10:43 <bowjob>	it comes with wagyu beef and lobster, and some of that louis XII ?
Apr 10 06:10:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.99999, Best ask: 250.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 250.00000, 24 hour volume: 109468.05441769, 24 hour low: 193.95111, 24 hour high: 250.00000, 24 hour vwap: 223.69880
Apr 10 06:12:07 <pizzaman1337>	;;asks 250
Apr 10 06:12:07 <gribble>	There are currently 1167.9295 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 291982.352046 USD in total. | Data vintage: 105.4371 seconds
Apr 10 06:12:26 <bowjob>	rikur, i have a poor acquiatance who learned about bitcoins at 17 dollars
Apr 10 06:12:35 <bowjob>	nevr invested to 200 bucks,
Apr 10 06:12:51 <bowjob>	each time it goes up, its a bubble. each times, it flash crashes, its dying
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Apr 10 06:13:47 <rikur>	hehe yeah. A friend of mine sold 100+ at 20$/btc. He's hitting himself hard these days.
Apr 10 06:14:05 <rikur>	They laughed at my adamant stacking and waiting for 10k/coin
Apr 10 06:14:41 <bowjob>	imo dont tell anyone else about the amount of btc you have
Apr 10 06:14:53 <bowjob>	its like winning the lottery.. but better. you can preserve your anonymity
Apr 10 06:15:22 <rikur>	yeah, I'll downplay the numbers whenever someone asks :)
Apr 10 06:15:25 <bowjob>	distant aunts and uncles wont bother you..
Apr 10 06:15:41 <bowjob>	and that kid you bumped into 5 years ago wont bother as well
Apr 10 06:15:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
Apr 10 06:16:16 <rikur>	so gox has been down for 10 mins
Apr 10 06:16:42 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 10 06:16:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.99800, Best ask: 249.99990, Bid-ask spread: 0.00190, Last trade: 249.99800, 24 hour volume: 108766.46027008, 24 hour low: 194.30000, 24 hour high: 250.00000, 24 hour vwap: 224.07281
Apr 10 06:16:46 <bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 06:16:47 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.20385 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000408513117582 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 10 06:16:50 <bowjob>	its not down
Apr 10 06:17:00 <rikur>	but not executing trades either
Apr 10 06:17:15 <bowjob>	oh
Apr 10 06:17:34 <bowjob>	i dont really go to mt gox and watch the price these days
Apr 10 06:17:52 <bowjob>	but i cant sleep.
Apr 10 06:18:45 <bowjob>	http://bitbet.us/bet/392/mtgox-bitcoin-usd-exchange-rate-250-before/
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Apr 10 06:18:59 <bowjob>	warning. if you send a bet there, you will lose you bitcoins
Apr 10 06:19:18 <bowjob>	the bet is over, i saw some people game the system at 200
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Apr 10 06:19:57 <bowjob>	btw, there is a BCIT instructor that holds 10k btc
Apr 10 06:20:12 <bowjob>	according to my IT friend.. ^ and old school miner
Apr 10 06:21:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00283546 = 0.8506 BTC [+]
Apr 10 06:22:12 <taub>	I refuse to believe mtgox isn't fucking with their engine on purpose now
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Apr 10 06:22:21 <taub>	this stale action doesnt seem real at 250
Apr 10 06:22:37 <taub>	oh here we go, ther was a drop
Apr 10 06:22:43 <bowjob>	it gives us stability
Apr 10 06:22:47 <bowjob>	even momentarily
Apr 10 06:22:53 <taub>	fake stability
Apr 10 06:22:56 <taub>	like dick in ass
Apr 10 06:23:00 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 10 06:23:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 247.38630, Best ask: 248.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.61370, Last trade: 248.00000, 24 hour volume: 108532.84546070, 24 hour low: 194.90001, 24 hour high: 250.00000, 24 hour vwap: 224.29028
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Apr 10 06:25:21 <rikur>	taub: it's a complete black box, gox that is. they could be front running trades for massive profits.
Apr 10 06:25:49 <taub>	yep
Apr 10 06:25:59 <taub>	engage lag, look into the future
Apr 10 06:26:16 <taub>	so to speak
Apr 10 06:26:19 <bowjob>	man.. i asked casa to send me an invite to buy 100 1 BTc oins
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Apr 10 06:26:23 <bowjob>	i got ignored lol
Apr 10 06:26:42 <bowjob>	im too small of a fish for him. i wonder what kind of orders hes getting
Apr 10 06:26:44 <rikur>	casa?
Apr 10 06:26:49 <bowjob>	casascius coins
Apr 10 06:27:01 <rikur>	ah
Apr 10 06:27:03 <bowjob>	i have just 1.. i wish i got more
Apr 10 06:27:12 <rikur>	risky though
Apr 10 06:27:30 <bowjob>	i mostly use it as a "fuck u. BTC can exist phyiscally"
Apr 10 06:29:06 <Uglux>	;;ticker
Apr 10 06:29:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 244.99000, Best ask: 247.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.01000, Last trade: 247.38630, 24 hour volume: 108068.12006362, 24 hour low: 195.20000, 24 hour high: 250.00000, 24 hour vwap: 224.55260
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Apr 10 06:30:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5076 @ 0.00070202 = 3.5635 BTC [-]
Apr 10 06:30:24 <bowjob>	its 3:29 am wtf am i doing
Apr 10 06:34:45 <rikur>	wanking about bitcoins
Apr 10 06:34:48 <rikur>	same as me
Apr 10 06:34:56 <bowjob>	we're bithipsters
Apr 10 06:35:06 <bowjob>	we bought bitcoins before buying them were cool
Apr 10 06:35:16 <rikur>	haha
Apr 10 06:35:24 <rikur>	need to get a shirt like that
Apr 10 06:36:11 <rikur>	but yeah.. would be cool to just travel slowly for a few years
Apr 10 06:36:30 <bowjob>	i wanna visit japan
Apr 10 06:36:41 <bowjob>	i can bring the big bucks for the best food around
Apr 10 06:37:06 <bowjob>	one place ill never dare set foot in is mexico
Apr 10 06:37:16 <bowjob>	ive seen the worst shit happen in that place
Apr 10 06:37:18 <bowjob>	im terrified
Apr 10 06:37:34 <punkman>	still pretty safe for tourists
Apr 10 06:38:02 <bowjob>	dunno man, i seen to many narco vids
Apr 10 06:38:03 <rikur>	bowjob: or russia
Apr 10 06:38:17 <bowjob>	russia... im ambivalent toward it
Apr 10 06:38:31 <rikur>	well I'm from Finland, so..
Apr 10 06:38:45 <rikur>	I've heard my share of stories of russia :)
Apr 10 06:38:56 <punkman>	there's always FUD about a country next door
Apr 10 06:38:56 <bowjob>	ah, i heard the happnies index there is high
Apr 10 06:39:10 <bowjob>	well, next door to canada is us
Apr 10 06:39:16 <bowjob>	im sure the fud is warranted
Apr 10 06:39:20 <punkman>	heh
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Apr 10 06:39:37 <rikur>	punkman: true, but shooting and bagging people in bright daylight is still pretty hc. And the stuff that happens on the quiet roads..
Apr 10 06:40:45 <rikur>	also, google russia road rage vids
Apr 10 06:41:14 <punkman>	yeah I've seen plenty of scary russian things
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Apr 10 06:41:26 <bowjob>	russians seem to have dashcams everytime
Apr 10 06:41:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.0029 = 0.0203 BTC [-]
Apr 10 06:41:33 <MJR_>	$avg
Apr 10 06:41:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00281 = 0.0843 BTC [-]
Apr 10 06:41:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0028 = 5.6 BTC [-]
Apr 10 06:41:38 <mpexbot>	MJR_: 220.66
Apr 10 06:42:00 <MJR_>	;;calc (220.66-164)/220.66
Apr 10 06:42:00 <gribble>	0.256775129158
Apr 10 06:43:48 <bowjob>	i wanna eat at guu now
Apr 10 06:43:53 <MJR_>	hi all
Apr 10 06:43:58 <MJR_>	;;seen benkay
Apr 10 06:43:58 <gribble>	benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 7 hours, 59 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <benkay> forced bucketing of participants
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Apr 10 06:45:58 <MJR_>	$250 huh
Apr 10 06:49:58 <KRS1>	seems to have leveled off a bit after the last few days
Apr 10 06:52:13 <MJR_>	we'll see
Apr 10 06:52:27 <MJR_>	don't ever turn your back on an insane bitcoin market
Apr 10 06:52:28 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 10 06:53:29 <punkman>	what kind of new BTC services would you guys like to see this year?
Apr 10 06:53:38 <MJR_>	swaps
Apr 10 06:53:43 <bowjob>	bitcoin debit card
Apr 10 06:53:50 <MJR_>	ooh nice one bowjob
Apr 10 06:53:51 <KRS1>	whoot there it is
Apr 10 06:53:55 <MJR_>	bitcoin atm's
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Apr 10 06:53:56 <bowjob>	id use it actually
Apr 10 06:54:01 <MJR_>	i'd use it too
Apr 10 06:54:01 <bowjob>	atm is the first step
Apr 10 06:54:09 <MJR_>	i was wishing i could take out $20 yesterday
Apr 10 06:54:22 <bowjob>	for me to load 1 BTC with the purchasing power of a few grand
Apr 10 06:54:29 <bowjob>	id spread it around
Apr 10 06:54:40 <punkman>	you can already get debit cards
Apr 10 06:54:50 <bowjob>	can you use them to pay merchants tho
Apr 10 06:54:53 <bowjob>	prolly not
Apr 10 06:55:02 <MJR_>	where are these debit cards?
Apr 10 06:55:05 <bowjob>	make it so that the btc gets converted to fiat
Apr 10 06:55:11 <punkman>	yeah, mastercard/visa for btc, I saw a few on btctalk
Apr 10 06:55:13 <bowjob>	that way merchants will be familiar
Apr 10 06:55:22 <bowjob>	no, thats different
Apr 10 06:55:30 <bowjob>	i mean a card loaded with BTC directly
Apr 10 06:55:36 <punkman>	you just don't want to preload them
Apr 10 06:55:38 <bowjob>	i expect to see one soon
Apr 10 06:55:47 <punkman>	I understand
Apr 10 06:55:54 <bowjob>	then i wont hoard as much lol
Apr 10 06:55:55 <MJR_>	basically a visa card denominated in btc
Apr 10 06:57:49 <bowjob>	rikur stil lhere?
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Apr 10 07:00:59 <MJR_>	nice new options
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Apr 10 07:04:36 <bowjob>	i accidentally put jogging pants on backwards
Apr 10 07:04:46 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 10 07:04:48 <bowjob>	according to chinese, its good luck
Apr 10 07:05:09 <KRS1>	btc for toll roads would be splendid
Apr 10 07:05:38 <KRS1>	you could easily get refunded for unused portions
Apr 10 07:06:29 <MJR_>	wow guys, this is awesome...get this
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Apr 10 07:07:17 <MJR_>	$960619.34 in loan demand at weighted average of 499.37%
Apr 10 07:07:29 <MJR_>	almost a million dollars at 500% interest
Apr 10 07:07:47 <MJR_>	currently lent:
Apr 10 07:08:00 <MJR_>	743840.76  at 667.165%
Apr 10 07:08:32 <MJR_>	so, the credit market for margin trading is approx 1.75 million and people pay between 500% and 667%...
Apr 10 07:09:13 <bowjob>	its on bitfiniex yea?
Apr 10 07:09:19 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 10 07:09:20 <ThickAsThieves>	I'm thinking price might not move more than +/- 5% today
Apr 10 07:09:37 <bowjob>	it would be a bitch to move cad to usd
Apr 10 07:09:41 <bowjob>	to bitfinex
Apr 10 07:10:20 <MJR_>	yah
Apr 10 07:10:31 <MJR_>	but this is how i hedge my portfolio
Apr 10 07:10:42 <MJR_>	dollars lent out at sick interest rates
Apr 10 07:10:51 <MJR_>	but also...
Apr 10 07:11:00 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 10 07:11:03 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 220.66
Apr 10 07:11:08 <MJR_>	6.5408% that is the percent on Bitcoin loans
Apr 10 07:11:32 <bowjob>	mhm, lending money to them seems like a good idea
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Apr 10 07:11:40 <MJR_>	hell yeah
Apr 10 07:11:41 <bowjob>	ill do my due diligence tomrrow.
Apr 10 07:11:45 <MJR_>	its nice so far
Apr 10 07:11:58 <MJR_>	also...in some ways you are adding liquidity
Apr 10 07:12:16 <MJR_>	as people can buy and sell more, also enabling short selling which is good, because they HAVE to buy bitcoins at some point
Apr 10 07:12:43 <bowjob>	500% apr thats like.. a
Apr 10 07:12:48 <bowjob>	payday loan?
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Apr 10 07:14:28 <MJR_>	yep
Apr 10 07:14:32 <MJR_>	but they can't actually default
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Apr 10 07:14:47 <bowjob>	what if they get hacked
Apr 10 07:14:48 <MJR_>	i mean, the only counter party risk is between you and bitfinex
Apr 10 07:14:52 <MJR_>	yes exactly
Apr 10 07:15:04 <MJR_>	but you don't have to trust the person actually borrowing the money
Apr 10 07:15:27 <bowjob>	coz they deposit btc
Apr 10 07:15:37 <taub>	lost 8 coins trying to fish for a top
Apr 10 07:15:41 <taub>	feels bad, never again
Apr 10 07:15:49 <MJR_>	not only do they have risk procedures in place to autoliquidate the position if they lose their money, but they also guarantee that if they don't catch them in time, they will make up for it
Apr 10 07:16:13 <bowjob>	seems like a nice compounding game
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Apr 10 07:16:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 195 @ 0.00283546 = 0.5529 BTC [+]
Apr 10 07:16:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0029411 = 1.1764 BTC [+]
Apr 10 07:16:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0029411 = 1.4706 BTC [+]
Apr 10 07:16:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00318999 = 1.595 BTC [+]
Apr 10 07:16:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 405 @ 0.00319 = 1.292 BTC [+]
Apr 10 07:17:35 <bowjob>	2k USD to lend eh
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Apr 10 07:17:37 <bowjob>	cheap
Apr 10 07:19:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
Apr 10 07:20:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.374 BTC [-]
Apr 10 07:20:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.37315 = 1.4926 BTC [-]
Apr 10 07:20:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.37311 = 1.4924 BTC [-]
Apr 10 07:23:41 <pgp>	what happens when the market moves down too fast for bitfinex to autoliquidate the margined longs?
Apr 10 07:23:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00318999 = 1.595 BTC [-]
Apr 10 07:23:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00319 = 1.276 BTC [+]
Apr 10 07:23:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.00256 = 0.1536 BTC [-]
Apr 10 07:24:08 <pgp>	they could end up getting really fucked really quickly...
Apr 10 07:24:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0025 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Apr 10 07:24:23 <pgp>	then what?
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Apr 10 07:24:49 <pgp>	they don't disclose how much of a cushion they have to protect against that...
Apr 10 07:25:13 <KRS1>	lol does this mean its just gonna keep going up bid $248.53 ask $249.40  there's practically no spread
Apr 10 07:25:17 <bowjob>	300 dollars reached on china
Apr 10 07:25:18 <taub>	yea
Apr 10 07:25:21 <bowjob>	in china
Apr 10 07:25:23 <bowjob>	fuck my grammar
Apr 10 07:25:24 <taub>	mtgox is way too fucking laggy
Apr 10 07:25:29 <KRS1>	an exchange in china?
Apr 10 07:25:30 <bowjob>	300 bucks in china
Apr 10 07:25:31 <taub>	to be running something like bitfinex on top of it
Apr 10 07:25:32 <bowjob>	yeap
Apr 10 07:25:56 <taub>	i think i'll write an open source exchange
Apr 10 07:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1517 @ 0.000715 = 1.0847 BTC [+]
Apr 10 07:26:04 <taub>	or make the one i have os...
Apr 10 07:26:14 <taub>	tired of crappy exchanges
Apr 10 07:26:16 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 10 07:26:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.78598, Best ask: 249.78600, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 249.78598, 24 hour volume: 100347.88063017, 24 hour low: 199.78000, 24 hour high: 250.50000, 24 hour vwap: 228.10415
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Apr 10 07:34:10 <ThickAsThieves>	Selling Call Options for lower than mpex bot, available in 86, 95, 104, 128, 131, 134
Apr 10 07:34:20 <ThickAsThieves>	they are listed on mpex/coinbr
Apr 10 07:34:26 <ThickAsThieves>	no need to pm
Apr 10 07:35:33 <taub>	Max Keiser .@maxkeiser 3h
Apr 10 07:35:34 <taub>	As I predicted: BTC would hit $250 (+/- 1%) and then pull back (as we've seen to $211). This is very healthy bull market action.
Apr 10 07:35:41 <taub>	there was no pullback to 211
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Apr 10 07:36:12 <pigeons>	;;ticker
Apr 10 07:36:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 250.78500, Best ask: 250.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01500, Last trade: 250.80000, 24 hour volume: 99766.58677138, 24 hour low: 201.56584, 24 hour high: 250.80000, 24 hour vwap: 228.36193
Apr 10 07:36:17 <pigeons>	look again
Apr 10 07:36:47 <taub>	it blew through 211 and never came back
Apr 10 07:37:25 <taub>	maybe he's looking at something else
Apr 10 07:37:46 <taub>	I didn't know he was promoting bitcoins like this
Apr 10 07:38:00 <bitesak>	he is quite active indeed
Apr 10 07:39:25 <bitesak>	he is seeing what he wants to see or the drop to 211 is upcoming..
Apr 10 07:39:35 <MJR_>	when did it go to 211
Apr 10 07:39:52 <taub>	well it didnt' that's why i'm wondering
Apr 10 07:40:01 <MJR_>	was that maxkeiser?
Apr 10 07:40:05 <taub>	https://twitter.com/maxkeiser
Apr 10 07:40:06 <bitesak>	yes
Apr 10 07:40:08 <MJR_>	maybe he was watching a different exchnage?
Apr 10 07:40:16 <MJR_>	he is an idiot...but i kinda appreciate him
Apr 10 07:40:24 <MJR_>	he says the most random crazy shit on his show
Apr 10 07:40:30 <bitesak>	he was watching exante.eu
Apr 10 07:40:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6572 @ 0.00070202 = 4.6137 BTC [-]
Apr 10 07:40:53 <MJR_>	and i think half the comments reference meth
Apr 10 07:41:12 <bitesak>	wonder what price they offer? supposedly lots of 1k Btc
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Apr 10 07:44:47 <MJR_>	yeah crazy right
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Apr 10 07:45:07 <MJR_>	where do they get access to the bitcoins? gox?
Apr 10 07:45:17 <Namworld>	#bitcoin is almost the top channel on freenode
Apr 10 07:45:19 <MJR_>	wouldn't be surprised if others like them are a big part of the rally
Apr 10 07:45:28 <Namworld>	like who?
Apr 10 07:45:33 <MJR_>	exante
Apr 10 07:45:33 <taub>	maybe gox giving them lag discount...
Apr 10 07:45:42 <MJR_>	the malta based hedge fund
Apr 10 07:45:50 <MJR_>	and i use the term loosely...they just buy bitcoins
Apr 10 07:45:52 <taub>	http://images.4chan.org/pol/src/1365587607741.png
Apr 10 07:45:57 <bitesak>	they have 81K Bitcoins
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Apr 10 07:46:23 <MJR_>	and if someone wants to redeem 1000 fund units
Apr 10 07:46:31 <MJR_>	do they cover it directly or offload to the markets
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Apr 10 07:47:04 <Namworld>	lol... 1 billion lined up
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Apr 10 07:47:14 <Namworld>	100 more USD/BTC injection?
Apr 10 07:47:22 <Namworld>	pff... how small...
Apr 10 07:47:38 <bitesak>	1billion will make the price go up more than 100
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Apr 10 07:48:21 <taub>	curr marketcap is like 200m?
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Apr 10 07:48:50 <taub>	1b/6m coins +$500~
Apr 10 07:49:09 <taub>	wait, no $200
Apr 10 07:49:12 <Namworld>	bitesak: true, because most coins in existence are probably lost...
Apr 10 07:49:28 <bitesak>	and are not available for sale also
Apr 10 07:49:47 <Namworld>	Many early day miners probably destroyed their wallets of "worthless bitcoins".
Apr 10 07:49:52 <Namworld>	Then there's horders
Apr 10 07:49:54 <bowjob>	yes max, i will mine
Apr 10 07:50:04 <Namworld>	and people not there to sell their Bitcoins...
Apr 10 07:50:11 <bowjob>	exante will pay dearly for my coins
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Apr 10 07:52:56 <bitesak>	price > $500 if they actually buy coins.
Apr 10 07:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.19500001 = 0.39 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 07:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.0006992 = 1.5382 BTC [-]
Apr 10 08:01:32 <bitesak>	;;asks 500
Apr 10 08:01:33 <gribble>	There are currently 20002.321 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 6885874.93277 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.2068 seconds
Apr 10 08:01:57 <bitesak>	!help
Apr 10 08:01:58 <assbot>	List of commands:
Apr 10 08:01:59 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
Apr 10 08:02:00 <assbot>	!last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
Apr 10 08:02:01 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Apr 10 08:02:02 <assbot>	!rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
Apr 10 08:02:03 <assbot>	!exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
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Apr 10 08:02:31 <bitesak>	;;buys 1000000000
Apr 10 08:02:32 <gribble>	Error: "buys" is not a valid command.
Apr 10 08:03:35 <bitesak>	whats that command with $ amount and number of coins you could buy?
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Apr 10 08:06:39 <dub>	;;market buy 1000000000
Apr 10 08:06:39 <gribble>	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 36730.056 bitcoins, for a total of 27477039122996.8594 USD and take the price to 13370133701337.0000. | Data vintage: 19.7813 seconds
Apr 10 08:07:28 <dub>	(note thats about 50 times more bitcoins than will ever exist)
Apr 10 08:07:56 <bitesak>	1billion USD not BTC
Apr 10 08:09:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00242 BTC [-]
Apr 10 08:09:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00242 BTC [-]
Apr 10 08:09:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 318 @ 0.00241 = 0.7664 BTC [-]
Apr 10 08:10:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 318 @ 0.00293588 = 0.9336 BTC [-]
Apr 10 08:10:59 <MJR_>	apparently, exante has 81k bitcoins...giving them AUM of 20.25 million dollars
Apr 10 08:12:26 <Namworld>	not abd
Apr 10 08:12:29 <Namworld>	bad*
Apr 10 08:13:28 <MJR_>	return over last 3 months...1000%
Apr 10 08:13:31 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 10 08:13:46 <MJR_>	minimum to open account 100k euro
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Apr 10 08:14:02 <Namworld>	lol...
Apr 10 08:14:13 <Namworld>	I hope not too many fools bite... or do I?
Apr 10 08:14:23 <Namworld>	I would be able to sell BTC even higher
Apr 10 08:14:45 <MJR_>	i'm looking to buy ;)
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Apr 10 08:15:36 <Namworld>	1 million a BTC please. Thank you, sir.
Apr 10 08:16:03 <Bugpowder>	coinlab.  What a bunch of tools
Apr 10 08:16:13 <Bugpowder>	Hello,  I'm writing with an update regarding the Mt. Gox transition we announced a month ago.   We've made good progress fulfilling direct buy and sell orders, and that seems to be going great. Our customers are saying really nice things about our customer service, and we've enjoyed making some direct connections with you.
Apr 10 08:16:14 <kakobrekla>	a no shit
Apr 10 08:16:24 <Bugpowder>	We will continue to make progress, but we're waiting for two things to be implemented: Full customer data access Working wire and Dwolla withdrawal forms Once those are done, we'll be ready to go.
Apr 10 08:16:26 <kakobrekla>	LMAO
Apr 10 08:16:46 <kakobrekla>	Our customers are saying really nice things about our customer service!
Apr 10 08:16:47 <Bugpowder>	Because of the Gox team's strong customer data protection methodologies, we aren't allowed to deliver these things directly, they have to go through the Gox process and that's taking longer than any of us want.   I will be in Tokyo next week, and should have more updates then.
Apr 10 08:16:55 <Bugpowder>	WHAT CUSTOMERS?
Apr 10 08:16:57 <kakobrekla>	aka we suck dicks well
Apr 10 08:17:07 <Bugpowder>	you can't have customer service without customers.
Apr 10 08:17:36 <Bugpowder>	Just got that email
Apr 10 08:19:27 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 10 08:19:28 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 227.18
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Apr 10 08:20:26 <ThickAsThieves>	lol, CoinLab PR is worse than Gox's
Apr 10 08:20:36 <ThickAsThieves>	260
Apr 10 08:21:01 <ThickAsThieves>	people like us, no really!
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Apr 10 08:23:32 <deadweasel>	i have some C188s, if this trend continues it is best to let them auto-exercise?  if trend turns down i should exercise them before expiration?
Apr 10 08:23:45 <deadweasel>	or is it better to sell to bot rather than exercise?
Apr 10 08:24:05 <bitesak>	apparently, selling to bot is better
Apr 10 08:24:13 <bitesak>	me too I have some 188 :)
Apr 10 08:24:44 <ThickAsThieves>	shortest answer is, it depends
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Apr 10 08:25:06 <ThickAsThieves>	run the math, check which method works best at the time you are ready
Apr 10 08:25:32 <bitesak>	but last month, I had trouble selling mine and it was easier just to press on exercise in coinbr
Apr 10 08:25:39 <deadweasel>	not da maffs!
Apr 10 08:26:17 <Bugpowder>	almost always better to sell to the bot
Apr 10 08:26:35 <Bugpowder>	but better do the math, cause da bot can be pricing things incorrectly
Apr 10 08:26:38 <Bugpowder>	at times
Apr 10 08:27:09 <deadweasel>	ok.  thx y'all.  i do maffs tonight after work!
Apr 10 08:27:29 <Bugpowder>	if the trend continues, yes, you should hold as long as you can.
Apr 10 08:27:57 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 10 08:27:58 <Bugpowder>	this is not a sustainable rally today... not enough bid support
Apr 10 08:27:58 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 10 08:28:09 <ThickAsThieves>	I agree
Apr 10 08:28:12 <ThickAsThieves>	it will deflate
Apr 10 08:28:28 <ThickAsThieves>	unless we are reaching a new angle in the curve...
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Apr 10 08:28:55 <ThickAsThieves>	265
Apr 10 08:29:03 <ThickAsThieves>	260
Apr 10 08:29:05 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 10 08:29:26 <deadweasel>	but but the avg will climb until price<avg
Apr 10 08:29:47 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 10 08:29:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 265.00000, Best ask: 265.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 265.50000, 24 hour volume: 98543.24485812, 24 hour low: 204.00100, 24 hour high: 265.00000, 24 hour vwap: 230.36571
Apr 10 08:33:44 <Bugpowder>	deadweasel: it will probably climb even longer than that
Apr 10 08:33:54 <Bugpowder>	depending on volume etc
Apr 10 08:37:34 <deadweasel>	but not more than say, 12 hours once the price turns down?
Apr 10 08:38:24 <deadweasel>	24hr hr avg would have to stare falling onve price is less than avg... right.
Apr 10 08:38:27 <deadweasel>	?
Apr 10 08:39:34 <Bugpowder>	no
Apr 10 08:40:49 <Bugpowder>	24hr ave falls when the volume weighted price of the current time is less than the volume weighted price of what is rolling off the end of the 24hour window.  This is rarely the same point of when the overall 24hr average > current spot price.
Apr 10 08:42:21 <Namworld>	Better go spread some stuff to prop up my vested interests in Bitcoins...
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Apr 10 08:45:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.755 BTC [-]
Apr 10 08:45:58 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 08:45:59 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 10 08:46:08 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 10 08:46:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 264.99000, Best ask: 265.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 264.99000, 24 hour volume: 96781.06266826, 24 hour low: 205.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.21792
Apr 10 08:46:28 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 10 08:46:29 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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Apr 10 08:48:37 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 08:48:38 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3.442951 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0068996352548 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
Apr 10 08:48:41 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 10 08:48:43 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 227.18
Apr 10 08:49:11 <Namworld>	mwuahahahaha
Apr 10 08:49:18 <deadweasel>	so 24hr vwap is the leading number for the avg...
Apr 10 08:49:27 <deadweasel>	the avg calc anyway
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Apr 10 08:51:13 <deadweasel>	so it takes all spot vwaps for 24 hrs and averages them into $avg.
Apr 10 08:54:48 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 08:54:49 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 114.26117 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.228978105348 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
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Apr 10 08:57:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4428 @ 0.0006992 = 3.0961 BTC [-]
Apr 10 08:57:54 <error4733>	24 hour volume from gribble is 24h volume MtGox ?
Apr 10 08:58:07 <pgp>	is there a resource out there with historical 24h averages?
Apr 10 09:00:52 <deadweasel>	2hr vwap is 24 hr volume weighted average across all exchanges/
Apr 10 09:01:00 <deadweasel>	at that moment.
Apr 10 09:01:34 <pgp>	of course...  I want to know if there is a historical record of those values anywhere?
Apr 10 09:01:52 <pgp>	at least for midnight GMT
Apr 10 09:02:23 <deadweasel>	i want to know also.  just telling error4733
Apr 10 09:02:27 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 09:02:28 <gribble>	227.18
Apr 10 09:02:30 <kakobrekla>	i might possibly have something, lemme see
Apr 10 09:02:34 <thestringpuller>	hehe
Apr 10 09:02:45 <pgp>	ah
Apr 10 09:03:02 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 10 09:03:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 258.00001, Best ask: 259.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99999, Last trade: 259.00000, 24 hour volume: 96828.50560386, 24 hour low: 205.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.94314
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Apr 10 09:05:05 <kakobrekla>	accually i dont keep the vwap in the db only derivates of it since 26.5.2011
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Apr 10 09:05:39 <kakobrekla>	but you can get whole history from bitcoincharts or whatever
Apr 10 09:05:46 <kakobrekla>	and recalc
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Apr 10 09:10:29 <pgp>	thanks
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Apr 10 09:12:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 200 @ 0.00997 = 1.994 BTC [-]
Apr 10 09:12:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 250 @ 0.009961 = 2.4903 BTC [-]
Apr 10 09:12:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 200 @ 0.00996 = 1.992 BTC [-]
Apr 10 09:15:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 09:20:54 <thestringpuller>	Wow a call bought yesterday is itm today...this is fishy
Apr 10 09:21:45 <bitesak>	thestringpuller: the weighted average price too?
Apr 10 09:23:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
Apr 10 09:24:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00325 = 0.0163 BTC [-]
Apr 10 09:24:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.374 BTC [+]
Apr 10 09:24:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.372 BTC [-]
Apr 10 09:25:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.37103 = 1.1131 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 09:25:35 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 10 09:25:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 258.52000, Best ask: 259.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 259.00000, 24 hour volume: 98201.05349287, 24 hour low: 205.20000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.21993
Apr 10 09:25:40 <Namworld>	thestringpuller: not only is it fishy... it's unreal...
Apr 10 09:25:47 <thestringpuller>	bitesak: yea the 24hprc
Apr 10 09:25:55 <Namworld>	the margin asked on those calls is massive...
Apr 10 09:26:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01199 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 09:26:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.012 BTC [+]
Apr 10 09:26:34 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: very surreal, is this what happens when a lot of money enters a market, or will come April 29th, MPOE-Bot will have lost much
Apr 10 09:26:35 <bitesak>	i followed bugpowder analysis and bought 188 at the beginning of the month. Seemed risky back then :)
Apr 10 09:26:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.012 BTC [+]
Apr 10 09:26:40 <taub>	dont cry shitwolf
Apr 10 09:26:42 <taub>	;;ticker
Apr 10 09:26:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 255.00000, Best ask: 258.99000, Bid-ask spread: 3.99000, Last trade: 255.00000, 24 hour volume: 98201.05349287, 24 hour low: 205.20000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.21993
Apr 10 09:27:04 <taub>	tailer park boys <3
Apr 10 09:28:24 <xiando>	Nice bullflag
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Apr 10 09:29:16 <xiando>	I'll see this as weakness if it even touches 250
Apr 10 09:29:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.774 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 09:35:02 <thestringpuller>	is taub canadian?
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Apr 10 09:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Apr 10 09:37:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.21 = 2.1 BTC [+]
Apr 10 09:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Apr 10 09:44:45 <topace|2>	!ticker h him
Apr 10 09:44:46 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.10000000 / 1.29951327 / 1.70000000 (113 shares, 146.84500001 BTC), 7D: 1.10000000 / 1.56626019 / 1.93000000 (216 shares, 338.31220010 BTC), 30D: 1.10000000 / 1.78251174 / 2.08000000 (792 shares, 1411.74929840 BTC)
Apr 10 09:46:47 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 10 09:46:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.00000, Best ask: 254.99490, Bid-ask spread: 0.99490, Last trade: 254.00000, 24 hour volume: 99132.93124795, 24 hour low: 207.56630, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.77794
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Apr 10 09:50:11 <thestringpuller>	;;later --tell mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/321897445422399488 - Gangsta?
Apr 10 09:50:11 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Apr 10 09:53:07 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 09:53:08 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
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Apr 10 09:53:18 <taub>	$avg
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Apr 10 09:53:22 <mpexbot>	taub: 227.18
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Apr 10 10:00:45 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 10:00:46 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 10 10:00:48 <thestringpuller>	$avg
Apr 10 10:00:50 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 10 10:00:50 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 10:00:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 244.00000, Best ask: 246.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 246.00000, 24 hour volume: 98467.48651505, 24 hour low: 208.01000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 234.66446
Apr 10 10:00:57 <thestringpuller>	Come on bross
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Apr 10 10:02:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 10:09:20 <MJR_>	;;later --help
Apr 10 10:09:20 <gribble>	Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "--help" in it.  Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
Apr 10 10:09:28 <MJR_>	;;list later
Apr 10 10:09:29 <gribble>	notes, remove, and tell
Apr 10 10:09:37 <MJR_>	i love gribble
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Apr 10 10:12:19 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3tsbo3/
Apr 10 10:12:19 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Apr 10 10:19:04 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 10:19:07 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 554.95413 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.11212186294 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
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Apr 10 10:20:14 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 10:20:15 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 586.52823 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.17539600582 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
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Apr 10 10:21:32 <DiabloD3>	incoming GLBSE div
Apr 10 10:21:32 <DiabloD3>	er
Apr 10 10:21:40 <DiabloD3>	incoming ASICMINER div
Apr 10 10:21:42 <ThickAsThieves>	why wait for gox, when you can visit the sun
Apr 10 10:22:09 <DiabloD3>	;;ticker
Apr 10 10:22:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.10000, Best ask: 248.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.90000, Last trade: 250.00000, 24 hour volume: 97594.28627093, 24 hour low: 213.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 235.22490
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Apr 10 10:23:18 <dub>	can anyone get to gox?
Apr 10 10:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-]
Apr 10 10:25:08 <bitesak>	bugpowder, yes
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Apr 10 10:26:10 <MJR_>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 10:26:11 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 10 10:26:17 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Apr 10 10:26:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.99897, Best ask: 249.99996, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 249.99897, 24 hour volume: 97477.12202574, 24 hour low: 213.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 235.69527
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Apr 10 10:27:07 <deadweasel>	https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.1&thid=13df4482057b77fd&mt=application/pdf&url=http://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D1f86642556%26view%3Datt%26th%3D13df4482057b77fd%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dsafe%26zw&sig=AHIEtbQVm6lPWHiUH0um9oxaFZF_KoRCog
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Apr 10 10:28:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.12799 BTC [+]
Apr 10 10:28:13 <bitesak>	deadweasel: doesn't seem publi link
Apr 10 10:28:37 <Bugpowdurr>	back to 260
Apr 10 10:28:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.774 BTC [+]
Apr 10 10:28:42 <Bugpowdurr>	anyone get worried there?
Apr 10 10:28:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77489 BTC [+]
Apr 10 10:28:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7749 = 1.5498 BTC [+]
Apr 10 10:28:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.775 = 3.1 BTC [+]
Apr 10 10:29:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.128 = 0.256 BTC [+]
Apr 10 10:29:26 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 10 10:30:14 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowdurr: the bears are doing their job
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Apr 10 10:30:21 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowdurr: did smickles get back to you?
Apr 10 10:30:22 <ThickAsThieves>	we'll get back to 260, just need more time
Apr 10 10:30:24 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 10 10:30:25 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 22 hours, 47 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 10 10:30:33 <ThickAsThieves>	people are buying too aggresively
Apr 10 10:30:49 <thestringpuller>	ThickAsThieves: yes so bears will come in an dump on them
Apr 10 10:30:57 <ThickAsThieves>	pigs get slaughtered
Apr 10 10:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Apr 10 10:33:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000689 = 0.0689 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 10:36:46 <jdeurlruyk>	What exactly does this group discuss? I am new to this but find it extremely interesting
Apr 10 10:37:19 <ThickAsThieves>	anything to do with investing in the bitcoin world
Apr 10 10:37:50 <Namworld>	idk but I sold like 40 BTC at 130 and 50 at 250
Apr 10 10:38:04 <Namworld>	will probably keep selling small chunks as we keep rising
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Apr 10 10:38:59 <jdeurlruyk>	So, what are the main ideas for investing in bitcoins so far? Would anyone be interested in setting up various basic financial instruments (e.g. annuities, bonds, etc) and have ideas on how to implement it? I am not a programmer but am a finance/economics expert
Apr 10 10:40:07 <Namworld>	There's already a lot of options out there...
Apr 10 10:40:27 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitcoin-T-Shirt-Benjamins-Cant-Buy-This-/170978275197?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item27cf196f7d
Apr 10 10:40:39 <ThickAsThieves>	^ irony
Apr 10 10:41:23 <jdeurlruyk>	hahah nice. What exactly do you mean by options?
Apr 10 10:41:25 <kakobrekla>	jdeurlruyk check the few links on the right on http://bitcoin-assets.com to begin with
Apr 10 10:41:44 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 10 10:41:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 258.00000, Best ask: 258.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 258.49000, 24 hour volume: 97414.58644216, 24 hour low: 213.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 236.13664
Apr 10 10:41:46 <Namworld>	options, bonds, stocks of bitcoin ventures, etc.
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Apr 10 10:42:00 <Namworld>	There's plenty to be found around already.
Apr 10 10:42:13 <deadweasel>	https://coinbr.com/ref?c=294TNRz1oP   you can sign up here and start trading stocks, options.
Apr 10 10:42:24 <deadweasel>	fee is .07 btc per mo.
Apr 10 10:42:33 <Namworld>	That's an MPEx broker tho...
Apr 10 10:42:45 <Namworld>	The actual exchange has a 30 BTC flat fee to join...
Apr 10 10:42:55 <ThickAsThieves>	fee is .09 per month for coinbr, no?
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Apr 10 10:43:28 <deadweasel>	yeah it is, sorry!
Apr 10 10:43:47 <jdeurlruyk>	MPEx never hacked? awesome
Apr 10 10:44:24 <ThickAsThieves>	pretty sure most of the current exchanges havent been hacked yet
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Apr 10 10:44:56 <ThickAsThieves>	mpex just has the biggest balls ;)
Apr 10 10:45:47 <kakobrekla>	fuckin net
Apr 10 10:45:53 <kakobrekla>	thowing me off
Apr 10 10:46:01 <kakobrekla>	ThickAsThieves wrong
Apr 10 10:46:17 <ThickAsThieves>	some have been hacked?
Apr 10 10:46:32 <ThickAsThieves>	like BitFunder, BTCT, Havelock?
Apr 10 10:46:50 <kakobrekla>	but they exists for a month or three
Apr 10 10:46:57 <ThickAsThieves>	doesnt make me wrong
Apr 10 10:47:06 <kakobrekla>	most of the exchanges so far were hacked
Apr 10 10:47:19 <kakobrekla>	most of the current one including fiat were
Apr 10 10:47:24 <jdeurlruyk>	There have definitely been hacks and problems
Apr 10 10:47:41 <jdeurlruyk>	but much faster to fix than every other bank or central fed
Apr 10 10:47:45 <ThickAsThieves>	i was referring to the ones we were discussing
Apr 10 10:47:50 <ThickAsThieves>	not gox and dead ones
Apr 10 10:47:53 <ThickAsThieves>	etc
Apr 10 10:48:00 <ThickAsThieves>	nor fiat ones
Apr 10 10:48:03 <ThickAsThieves>	but yes
Apr 10 10:48:07 <taub>	actually any hack is worse when it's done in btc
Apr 10 10:48:13 <ThickAsThieves>	fiat dealers get hacked
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Apr 10 10:48:17 <taub>	a hacked bank can roll back the transactions
Apr 10 10:48:24 <taub>	in btc the money is gone
Apr 10 10:48:45 <Namworld>	indeed...
Apr 10 10:48:55 <Namworld>	a BTC hack can often doom the business and all customers...
Apr 10 10:49:12 <ThickAsThieves>	even a btc bug can do that
Apr 10 10:49:20 <kakobrekla>	yes cause you cant just type the numbers back in
Apr 10 10:49:20 <kakobrekla>	like the bankers do
Apr 10 10:49:21 <jdeurlruyk>	thats what we get for not being backed by anything physical, though
Apr 10 10:49:28 <ColdHardMetal>	<ThickAsThieves> fee is .09 per month for coinbr, no? <<< He dropped it to .045
Apr 10 10:49:37 <ThickAsThieves>	nice,
Apr 10 10:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32809 @ 0.00071359 = 23.4122 BTC [+]
Apr 10 10:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00071123 = 20.1278 BTC [-]
Apr 10 10:49:45 <ThickAsThieves>	he should update his About page then
Apr 10 10:49:47 <Namworld>	and if the business owners faked the hack, it's pretty much indistinguishable...
Apr 10 10:50:01 <Namworld>	technically...
Apr 10 10:50:10 <ColdHardMetal>	only know because I see it on my recent transactions page.
Apr 10 10:50:17 <Namworld>	everything is very obfuscable
Apr 10 10:50:21 <wao>	um
Apr 10 10:50:22 <jdeurlruyk>	<namworld> good point
Apr 10 10:50:25 <ThickAsThieves>	oh i think he charged less this month
Apr 10 10:50:28 <ThickAsThieves>	because of down time
Apr 10 10:50:30 <wao>	when I want buy asicminer-pt shares, how to do it?
Apr 10 10:50:35 <ColdHardMetal>	ah, maybe.
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Apr 10 10:52:29 <ThickAsThieves>	wao, you make an account on Bitfunder or BTCT
Apr 10 10:52:32 <ThickAsThieves>	and buy them
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Apr 10 10:54:26 <jdeurlruyk>	Thanks for the help! I have to go back to work *shrug* but I will be back because this is too interesting not to write an econ paper on a few things
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Apr 10 10:55:16 <jdeurlruyk>	Would people be interested in participating in brief interviews on the topic?
Apr 10 10:55:45 <jdeurlruyk>	obvi no names are attached, just to pick your brains on ideas
Apr 10 10:55:48 <Namworld>	Why not
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Apr 10 10:56:11 <taub>	well just ask
Apr 10 10:57:07 <jdeurlruyk>	a discussion for another day <taub> for now i gotta make sure i can pay rent
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Apr 10 10:58:45 <Namworld>	dayjob call
Apr 10 11:02:41 <kakobrekla>	16:58.09 ( Enky ) http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-10/bitcoin-parabola-not-enough-here-comes-bitcoin-opportunity-fund-time-leverage
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Apr 10 11:13:26 <taub>	good good
Apr 10 11:16:16 <dub>	AM divs
Apr 10 11:16:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2365 @ 0.00070215 = 1.6606 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 11:16:57 <dub>	0.00695
Apr 10 11:17:37 <deadweasel>	not bad.
Apr 10 11:17:43 <deadweasel>	or is it?
Apr 10 11:18:51 <dub>	its a lot more than expected
Apr 10 11:19:09 <ll>	supposed to be a low div week too afaik
Apr 10 11:19:22 <dub>	last was .0025 and he said this would be lower
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Apr 10 11:22:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [-]
Apr 10 11:22:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
Apr 10 11:22:45 <bitesak>	50K USD as reserves :)
Apr 10 11:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.2390001 = 0.478 BTC [+]
Apr 10 11:25:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.24 = 1.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 11:33:04 <jcpham>	https://exante.eu/press/news/266/
Apr 10 11:33:07 <jcpham>	keiser tweeted
Apr 10 11:33:54 <dub>	timeline
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Apr 10 11:37:46 *	PhantomSpark|2 is now known as PhantomSpark
Apr 10 11:39:58 <BitHub>	thank you asicminer
Apr 10 11:40:08 <BitHub>	just to top off a beautiful day
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Apr 10 11:41:48 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 10 11:41:50 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 10 11:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.22 = 0.66 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 11:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.241 = 2.41 BTC [-]
Apr 10 11:44:53 <MJR_>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 11:45:04 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 10 11:46:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00293588 = 2.9359 BTC [-]
Apr 10 11:46:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 10 11:46:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 239.62588, Best ask: 240.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37412, Last trade: 240.00000, 24 hour volume: 94220.60089513, 24 hour low: 218.52000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 238.58516
Apr 10 11:46:31 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 10 11:46:34 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 227.18
Apr 10 11:47:02 <deadweasel>	do that does change throughout the day?  or changes on tick of midnight?
Apr 10 11:47:08 <deadweasel>	do / so
Apr 10 11:47:23 <ThickAsThieves>	changes regularly
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Apr 10 11:47:57 <ThickAsThieves>	I'm selling call options for lower than mpex bot, available in 86, 95, 104, 128, 131, 134. No need to pm, they are listed on mpex
Apr 10 11:47:58 <deadweasel>	been the same all day today..
Apr 10 11:49:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00243 BTC [+]
Apr 10 11:50:24 <dub>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 11:50:24 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 836.410295 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.67615686626 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 10 11:51:05 <pgp>	is the mpex bot offline right now?
Apr 10 11:51:31 <MJR_>	thats a lot of lag
Apr 10 11:51:50 <deadweasel>	everyone is selling btc
Apr 10 11:52:07 <deadweasel>	shakin' out the new goobers
Apr 10 11:52:09 <pgp>	sell, sell, sell !!!
Apr 10 11:52:40 <deadweasel>	ThickAsThieves: how do you know what mpexbot is buying calls for?
Apr 10 11:52:51 <deadweasel>	i'm going through coinbr, mind you
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Apr 10 11:53:54 <pgp>	bot is down - has been for a while
Apr 10 11:54:18 <deadweasel>	ok, so no prices showon coinbr, makes sense
Apr 10 11:54:40 <deadweasel>	i can still use the last prices I see on mpex.co for some price data...
Apr 10 11:57:13 <dub>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 11:57:17 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1058.278714 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.12077869378 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 10 11:57:31 <dub>	aww it came down
Apr 10 11:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.75000001 BTC [-]
Apr 10 11:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]
Apr 10 11:59:19 <Bugpowdurr>	wow.  HIM is way way down
Apr 10 11:59:25 <Bugpowdurr>	60% of IPO now
Apr 10 12:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.22 = 1.54 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:01:24 <Bugpowdurr>	fick
Apr 10 12:01:54 <ThickAsThieves>	you own some HIM, bug?
Apr 10 12:01:58 <Bugpowdurr>	hell no
Apr 10 12:02:04 <ThickAsThieves>	me either
Apr 10 12:02:07 <Bugpowdurr>	231.
Apr 10 12:02:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought price was outrageous
Apr 10 12:02:23 <Bugpowdurr>	yeah
Apr 10 12:02:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm seeing differen prices on all services
Apr 10 12:02:34 <ThickAsThieves>	244 on bitcoinity
Apr 10 12:02:40 <ThickAsThieves>	238 on clarkmoody
Apr 10 12:02:42 <Bugpowdurr>	clark is holding up the best
Apr 10 12:02:49 <Bugpowdurr>	for me
Apr 10 12:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.2 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:03:04 <ThickAsThieves>	Lag: 14:54.290
Apr 10 12:03:08 <ThickAsThieves>	big selloff
Apr 10 12:03:16 <ThickAsThieves>	saw it coming
Apr 10 12:03:21 <ThickAsThieves>	about 5000 coins
Apr 10 12:03:25 <ThickAsThieves>	230 bottom
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Apr 10 12:03:51 <Bugpowdurr>	yeah same here
Apr 10 12:03:57 <Bugpowdurr>	fast cash was out of funds though
Apr 10 12:04:14 <Bugpowdurr>	suddenly it found some funds after the dip below 250 though
Apr 10 12:04:17 <Bugpowdurr>	heh heh
Apr 10 12:04:31 <Bugpowdurr>	I think he turns of sales when the market is in super rally toppy mode.
Apr 10 12:04:45 <ThickAsThieves>	you mean mpex bot?
Apr 10 12:04:57 <ThickAsThieves>	whats fast cash
Apr 10 12:04:57 <Bugpowdurr>	no fastcash4bitcoins
Apr 10 12:05:02 <ThickAsThieves>	oh
Apr 10 12:05:25 <Bugpowdurr>	I don't know if 230 is going to hold
Apr 10 12:05:28 <Bugpowdurr>	we could drop to 200
Apr 10 12:05:32 <Bugpowdurr>	before a real bounce
Apr 10 12:05:44 <Bugpowdurr>	;;bids 0
Apr 10 12:05:45 <gribble>	There are currently 31798929 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11985801.1795 USD in total. | Data vintage: 67.0128 seconds
Apr 10 12:05:49 <ThickAsThieves>	we're gonna lose 230
Apr 10 12:05:55 <ThickAsThieves>	still more cpoins for sale
Apr 10 12:05:58 <Bugpowdurr>	I think we need to be above 14M to go up
Apr 10 12:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2426 = 1.213 BTC [+]
Apr 10 12:06:06 <Bugpowdurr>	or to support this price level
Apr 10 12:06:07 <MJR_>	gotta get some cash into the exchanges :)
Apr 10 12:06:28 <Bugpowdurr>	the lag is out of control right now too
Apr 10 12:06:31 <Bugpowdurr>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 12:06:32 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1022.119422 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.04831587747 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 10 12:06:43 <MJR_>	yeah 1.5 AU's may be part of the reason
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Apr 10 12:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.04000001 = 2.08 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 12:07:56 <MJR_>	but also, still at 250 at bitfloor
Apr 10 12:08:02 <ThickAsThieves>	lag is from major selloff triggering reordering of soft bids
Apr 10 12:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:08:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.018 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:08:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.014 = 3.042 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:08:25 <MJR_>	yeah...but not everyone follows this as closely
Apr 10 12:08:32 <MJR_>	one major selloff+lag = panic for some
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Apr 10 12:09:10 <ThickAsThieves>	would be nice if ;;bids showed a data vintage
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Apr 10 12:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.014 = 2.028 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:11:53 <ThickAsThieves>	what is the official wat to test which price mpex options uses to excercise?
Apr 10 12:11:56 <ThickAsThieves>	way
Apr 10 12:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.01100003 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.01100003 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:12:07 <ThickAsThieves>	is it $avg?
Apr 10 12:12:09 <pgp>	any place beside bitcoincharts to get trade histories - site timeouts.  I'm trying to reconstuct 24 moving avg for last year...
Apr 10 12:12:31 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 10 12:12:32 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 10 12:12:59 <deadweasel>	would be nice to hold above 227...
Apr 10 12:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:13:03 <deadweasel>	:0
Apr 10 12:13:06 <deadweasel>	:)
Apr 10 12:13:14 <MJR_>	its rising guys...
Apr 10 12:13:22 <MJR_>	almost back to 240
Apr 10 12:13:46 <MJR_>	and rising past 251 on bitfloor (i think this may be record volume for bitfloor as well)
Apr 10 12:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.21 = 1.05 BTC [+]
Apr 10 12:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.2 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:14:10 <pgp>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 12:14:16 <gribble>	227.18
Apr 10 12:14:35 <ThickAsThieves>	pgp is that what bot uses?
Apr 10 12:14:38 <ThickAsThieves>	options bot
Apr 10 12:15:02 <pgp>	yes
Apr 10 12:15:15 <MJR_>	$avg
Apr 10 12:15:17 <mpexbot>	MJR_: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 10 12:15:27 <MJR_>	think both are equal but wanted to test
Apr 10 12:15:58 <pgp>	it's in the faq
Apr 10 12:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99520001 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 12:16:31 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 12:16:31 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1189.968031 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.38468261058 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
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Apr 10 12:16:57 <ThickAsThieves>	thx
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Apr 10 12:17:31 <MJR_>	faq predates mpexbot...
Apr 10 12:17:57 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 10 12:18:01 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 227.18
Apr 10 12:18:10 <MJR_>	yep equal
Apr 10 12:18:16 <deadweasel>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 12:18:23 <gribble>	227.18
Apr 10 12:18:45 <deadweasel>	could be coincidence.  i thought ;;bc was gox only?
Apr 10 12:19:05 <MJR_>	nah, mpex uses it, so it must be the cross exchange number
Apr 10 12:19:23 <MJR_>	since mpex doesn't go by gox for options (not only by gox, though it makes up most of the number)
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Apr 10 12:21:32 <pgp>	;;goxlog
Apr 10 12:21:33 <gribble>	Error: "goxlog" is not a valid command.
Apr 10 12:21:45 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 12:21:45 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 871.828642 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.74713483709 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
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Apr 10 12:25:19 <Bugpowdurr>	bc is cross exchange
Apr 10 12:25:30 <Bugpowdurr>	gawd damnit
Apr 10 12:25:32 <Bugpowdurr>	230
Apr 10 12:25:55 <ThickAsThieves>	coins for sale is still increasing...
Apr 10 12:26:33 <Bugpowdurr>	and bot is still down
Apr 10 12:27:02 <Bugpowdurr>	just going to step away from this...
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Apr 10 12:28:20 <jcpham>	haha
Apr 10 12:28:50 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 10 12:29:02 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 10 12:29:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 12:29:11 <gribble>	227.18
Apr 10 12:30:47 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 12:30:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 233.00000, Best ask: 234.99999, Bid-ask spread: 1.99999, Last trade: 234.99999, 24 hour volume: 93700.32878955, 24 hour low: 220.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 239.14213
Apr 10 12:31:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 41 @ 0.00996 = 0.4084 BTC [-]
Apr 10 12:31:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01001 = 10.01 BTC [+]
Apr 10 12:33:55 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 12:33:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 229.88659, Best ask: 230.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11341, Last trade: 229.88659, 24 hour volume: 93920.89273959, 24 hour low: 220.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 239.14560
Apr 10 12:34:21 <mod6>	;;seen smickles
Apr 10 12:34:21 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 0 hours, 51 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 10 12:34:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 12:34:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 231.00000, Best ask: 235.00000, Bid-ask spread: 4.00000, Last trade: 230.62587, 24 hour volume: 93920.89273959, 24 hour low: 220.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 239.14560
Apr 10 12:34:45 <thestringpuller>	okay rally is back on
Apr 10 12:35:00 <Namworld>	Who bought those BTC-BOND...
Apr 10 12:35:02 <pgp>	lol
Apr 10 12:35:02 <Namworld>	anyway...
Apr 10 12:35:58 <Scrat>	thestringpuller: where do you see that? I only see trades that were issued 10 minutes ago because gox is a piece of shit
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Apr 10 12:36:08 <mod6>	!ticker h vtx
Apr 10 12:36:10 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 12:36:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.18000000 / 0.22859646 / 0.28000000 (421 shares, 96.23910756 BTC), 7D: 0.18000000 / 0.31138451 / 0.47000000 (1490 shares, 463.96291803 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.42180339 / 0.79900000 (14359 shares, 6056.67483856 BTC)
Apr 10 12:36:17 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 586.074302 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.17448633919 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 10 12:36:19 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 120
Apr 10 12:36:21 <gribble>	There are currently 30682.543 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 5463681.92999 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.2593 seconds
Apr 10 12:36:35 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 220
Apr 10 12:36:35 <gribble>	There are currently 3087.9525 bitcoins demanded at or over 220.0 USD, worth 691260.620651 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.8122 seconds
Apr 10 12:36:48 <mod6>	wow. what is vtx and why did it crash?
Apr 10 12:36:50 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 250
Apr 10 12:36:50 <gribble>	There are currently 3345.7072 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 815592.437721 USD in total. | Data vintage: 34.7430 seconds
Apr 10 12:36:56 <pgp>	lag blows!!!
Apr 10 12:37:16 <pgp>	so goddamn frustrating...
Apr 10 12:37:16 <thestringpuller>	mod6 all havelock popped
Apr 10 12:38:28 <pgp>	228
Apr 10 12:38:30 <mod6>	oh that vtx was the canadian exchange 'eh
Apr 10 12:38:36 <mod6>	it 'popped'?
Apr 10 12:39:11 <thestringpuller>	yea
Apr 10 12:39:20 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 12:39:21 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 576.990166 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.15628183236 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 10 12:39:39 <thestringpuller>	HIM is BFL based.
Apr 10 12:39:43 <mod6>	hmm
Apr 10 12:39:45 <pgp>	227
Apr 10 12:39:50 <thestringpuller>	wow super gox lag
Apr 10 12:40:01 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 12:40:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 229.11000, Best ask: 230.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 230.00000, 24 hour volume: 94682.35153073, 24 hour low: 220.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 239.10318
Apr 10 12:40:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 12:40:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 229.11000, Best ask: 230.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 230.00000, 24 hour volume: 95098.86292173, 24 hour low: 220.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 239.05336
Apr 10 12:40:34 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Apr 10 12:41:09 <pgp>	226
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Apr 10 12:41:17 <ThickAsThieves>	gonna go lower still
Apr 10 12:41:21 <pgp>	yep
Apr 10 12:41:43 <ThickAsThieves>	where's the new money?
Apr 10 12:41:43 <deadweasel>	finally the roller coaster goes down
Apr 10 12:42:07 <Doffx>	It will go to about 211-212
Apr 10 12:42:26 <pgp>	225
Apr 10 12:42:44 <deadweasel>	could go 190. could shoot up in the night to 300.  who fuggin knows.
Apr 10 12:43:11 <Doffx>	Oh high of 266 I missed that somehow duh
Apr 10 12:43:13 <Doffx>	yeah 225
Apr 10 12:43:36 <Doffx>	back to 300 tomorrow!
Apr 10 12:43:39 <Doffx>	haha
Apr 10 12:43:47 <Doffx>	anyhow off to do work.
Apr 10 12:43:53 <deadweasel>	https://www.kraken.com/market
Apr 10 12:44:03 <deadweasel>	good depth graphs
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Apr 10 12:50:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 12:50:30 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 10 12:50:40 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 10 12:50:42 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 10 12:50:47 <bgupta>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 12:50:48 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 10 12:51:31 <deadweasel>	lol, forums down.  :)  newbs ddosing it to post panic posts
Apr 10 12:51:42 <deadweasel>	good times
Apr 10 12:51:58 <deadweasel>	forums up again!  :)
Apr 10 12:53:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 1000
Apr 10 12:53:43 <gribble>	A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 220609.3737 USD and would take the last price down to 219.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 220.6094 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0002 seconds
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Apr 10 12:55:43 <kakobrekla>	arrrgg veggies!
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Apr 10 12:56:51 <Bugpowdurr>	fuuuuk
Apr 10 12:57:05 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Apr 10 12:57:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 218.50000, Best ask: 226.99999, Bid-ask spread: 8.49999, Last trade: 218.50000, 24 hour volume: 95443.23142610, 24 hour low: 218.50000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 238.94761
Apr 10 12:57:20 <Namworld>	yeah, we under 219 now
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Apr 10 12:59:10 <kakobrekla>	endoftheworld.swf
Apr 10 12:59:23 <jcpham>	woohoo
Apr 10 12:59:23 <Bugpowdurr>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 12:59:24 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 10 12:59:30 <ThickAsThieves>	we're stabilizing
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Apr 10 12:59:50 <pgp>	you call this stabilizing?
Apr 10 13:00:13 <Scrat>	I call this an arbitrary retarded rollercoaster
Apr 10 13:00:18 <deadweasel>	^
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Apr 10 13:00:59 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm predicting stabilization
Apr 10 13:01:09 <ThickAsThieves>	not calling a 45+ drop stabilization
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Apr 10 13:02:28 <pgp>	callin' the bottom?
Apr 10 13:02:48 <Bugpowdurr>	Just exercised a shitload of calls
Apr 10 13:02:53 <Bugpowdurr>	ARGH
Apr 10 13:03:03 <jborkl_>	215
Apr 10 13:03:25 <KRS-1>	;;ticker
Apr 10 13:03:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 215.12452, Best ask: 220.00000, Bid-ask spread: 4.87548, Last trade: 215.12452, 24 hour volume: 96147.37374937, 24 hour low: 217.11100, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 238.79527
Apr 10 13:03:59 <deadweasel>	Bugpowdurr: why?
Apr 10 13:04:14 <deadweasel>	think dwonturn will push $avg down through to the 27th?
Apr 10 13:04:16 <Bugpowdurr>	cause 24hprc is 29
Apr 10 13:04:22 <Bugpowdurr>	or 227
Apr 10 13:04:28 <Bugpowdurr>	I dunno
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Apr 10 13:04:32 <Bugpowdurr>	I am probably stupid
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Apr 10 13:04:53 <deadweasel>	227, no, i don't think you are.  i've been preventing myself from clicking exercise all morning.
Apr 10 13:04:55 <Bugpowdurr>	I'm up a lot on these calls, want to protect the profits
Apr 10 13:05:02 <deadweasel>	smart.
Apr 10 13:05:09 <Bugpowdurr>	I still have 1000 C302Ts...
Apr 10 13:05:11 <pgp>	i think so...
Apr 10 13:05:16 <KRS-1>	its going back up?
Apr 10 13:05:19 <Bugpowdurr>	Anyone want to buy some C302Ts????
Apr 10 13:05:37 <Bugpowdurr>	90% chance it bounces hard by 200.
Apr 10 13:06:31 <pgp>	105% chance it goes past 200
Apr 10 13:07:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.06746 = 0.1349 BTC [-]
Apr 10 13:07:55 <pgp>	if it breaks $200, noob panic will set in...
Apr 10 13:08:22 <BitHub>	;)
Apr 10 13:08:24 <BitHub>	cmon 200
Apr 10 13:08:25 <pgp>	215 going, going.  gone...
Apr 10 13:08:36 <BitHub>	hows your cash looking guys?
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Apr 10 13:08:50 <BitHub>	got some ready?
Apr 10 13:09:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 3 @ 0.06746 = 0.2024 BTC [-]
Apr 10 13:09:40 <mod6>	yeah when she bottoms be ready to BTFD
Apr 10 13:10:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.06746 BTC [-]
Apr 10 13:11:30 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 13:11:40 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 10 13:11:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlaglag
Apr 10 13:11:43 <gribble>	Error: "goxlaglag" is not a valid command.
Apr 10 13:12:02 <kakobrekla>	pgp http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
Apr 10 13:12:10 <pgp>	lag on lag...
Apr 10 13:12:52 <Scrat>	you know you have failed at providing a service when people actually bother to graph your lag
Apr 10 13:12:53 <taub>	btce is at 175 already
Apr 10 13:13:04 <taub>	implying mtgox lag isnt fucking the price development up
Apr 10 13:13:28 <mod6>	Scrat: +1
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Apr 10 13:14:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.06746 BTC [-]
Apr 10 13:14:26 <pgp>	175?  i don't see that?
Apr 10 13:14:51 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render/?title=Bitstamp+and+Mtgox+market+values+-+1+hour&vtitle=Dollars&from=-1hour&width=500&height=250&until=now&areaMode=none&lineMode=connected&target=alias%28bitcoin.mtgox.transactions%2C%22Mtgox%22%29&target=alias%28bitcoin.bitstamp.transactions%2C%22Bitstamp%22%29
Apr 10 13:14:51 <taub>	https://btc-e.com
Apr 10 13:14:54 <mod6>	Last Price: 181.996 USD
Apr 10 13:14:55 <Scrat>	pgp: gotta visit the website. bitcoinity is behind
Apr 10 13:14:58 <mod6>	@ btc-e.com
Apr 10 13:15:06 <pgp>	shit....
Apr 10 13:15:10 <taub>	low is 168
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Apr 10 13:15:38 <taub>	lag is in the stratosphere
Apr 10 13:16:02 <MJR_>	is it 168?
Apr 10 13:16:06 <MJR_>	i see 213
Apr 10 13:16:22 <taub>	it was
Apr 10 13:16:25 <kakobrekla>	MJR_ between 20 and 2000
Apr 10 13:16:28 <taub>	shooting back up right now again
Apr 10 13:16:32 <MJR_>	thats my range
Apr 10 13:16:40 <MJR_>	just watch the decimal point is my strategy
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Apr 10 13:16:45 <kakobrekla>	:)
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Apr 10 13:18:43 <taub>	btw
Apr 10 13:18:47 <taub>	that lag chart
Apr 10 13:18:50 <taub>	20 minuts lag
Apr 10 13:19:03 <taub>	can we put mtgox to sleep now
Apr 10 13:19:16 <deadweasel>	yes please
Apr 10 13:19:37 <deadweasel>	put it in a bag and hold it under water.
Apr 10 13:19:37 <MJR_>	its painful to watch
Apr 10 13:19:51 <Scrat>	burn the entire deck of cards
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Apr 10 13:21:06 <pgp>	204 on coinlab
Apr 10 13:21:09 <Bugpowdurr>	thank god mpoebot is not on here
Apr 10 13:21:18 <Bugpowdurr>	otherwise I might buy puts
Apr 10 13:21:23 <Bugpowdurr>	like an idiot
Apr 10 13:21:41 <pgp>	saving yourself from yourself?
Apr 10 13:22:02 <ZedsterX>	does anyone know the actual price my lags are over 20 mins
Apr 10 13:22:18 <taub>	there is no actual price
Apr 10 13:22:23 <taub>	watch it at btce
Apr 10 13:22:27 <taub>	best bet
Apr 10 13:22:40 <Scrat>	209 on gox, 24h low
Apr 10 13:22:52 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --last
Apr 10 13:22:53 <gribble>	204.00000
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Apr 10 13:32:30 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 13:32:31 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1936.838474 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.88140261597 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
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Apr 10 13:34:25 <Namworld>	let's make it 6000 seconds...
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Apr 10 13:35:08 <pgp>	basically a 10 dollar spread right now
Apr 10 13:35:09 <mod6>	hah, sittin in the asteroid belt
Apr 10 13:36:02 <Namworld>	which cannot be exploited anyway
Apr 10 13:36:03 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 13:36:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 207.64769, Best ask: 210.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.35231, Last trade: 200.20000, 24 hour volume: 94268.30080656, 24 hour low: 200.57000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 238.09025
Apr 10 13:36:18 <deadweasel>	old data
Apr 10 13:36:20 <pgp>	printing 200
Apr 10 13:36:22 <taub>	$avg
Apr 10 13:36:28 <mpexbot>	taub: 227.18
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Apr 10 13:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.26 = 2.6 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:37:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.2629 = 0.7887 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:37:06 <pgp>	avg hasn't changed at all...  something is wrong tith that
Apr 10 13:37:35 <Bugpowdurr>	200
Apr 10 13:37:38 <Bugpowdurr>	pgp
Apr 10 13:37:39 <Bugpowdurr>	I know
Apr 10 13:37:41 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 13:37:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 200.00000, Best ask: 205.00000, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 200.00000, 24 hour volume: 93585.85587562, 24 hour low: 200.20000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 238.10401
Apr 10 13:37:48 <Bugpowdurr>	mpex bot is down too
Apr 10 13:37:50 <Bugpowdurr>	fick
Apr 10 13:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.26 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Apr 10 13:38:07 <MJR_>	bitfloor just crashed i think
Apr 10 13:38:09 <Bugpowdurr>	puts would be nice to buy with a $27 mispricing
Apr 10 13:38:10 <Bugpowdurr>	lol
Apr 10 13:38:41 <Namworld>	no options available...
Apr 10 13:38:55 <pgp>	bitfloor been down for a while, eh?
Apr 10 13:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.2629 = 2.629 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:39:09 <Namworld>	I think mircea takes the bot offline when these wild swings occur or something
Apr 10 13:39:26 <Namworld>	so people don't take advantage of the huge average/price difference
Apr 10 13:39:30 <pgp>	778 print at 200
Apr 10 13:39:35 <deadweasel>	bouncing?
Apr 10 13:39:47 <pgp>	i don't think so...  wall is falling
Apr 10 13:40:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.263 = 1.315 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:40:04 <Namworld>	or bot just goes of when it can't get an average, which is from bitcoincharts which tends to go bust at the same time as MtGox
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Apr 10 13:40:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2273 @ 0.00069098 = 1.5706 BTC [-]
Apr 10 13:40:46 <pgp>	well, maybe he only runs the bot when he at his terminal...  he's not logged on here...
Apr 10 13:40:47 <Bugpowdurr>	if we break 200
Apr 10 13:40:49 <Bugpowdurr>	oh my
Apr 10 13:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.263988 = 1.056 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:41:37 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 13:41:38 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2198.736701 seconds. During this time, light travels 4.40624373052 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
Apr 10 13:41:50 <pgp>	we've made it to jupiter!
Apr 10 13:41:58 <Bugpowdurr>	I'm waiting for Saturn
Apr 10 13:41:59 <taub>	laglag lag lag alaaaaaaaaaaag we all lag
Apr 10 13:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.2687 = 1.0748 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:42:05 <Bugpowdurr>	we hit Saturn before
Apr 10 13:42:33 <pgp>	can't wait...  saturn is a beautiful sight to behold...
Apr 10 13:42:41 <MJR_>	does he have pluto?
Apr 10 13:42:43 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 13:42:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 200.00000, Best ask: 210.00000, Bid-ask spread: 10.00000, Last trade: 200.00000, 24 hour volume: 95453.02714893, 24 hour low: 200.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 237.25191
Apr 10 13:42:46 <pgp>	more big prints at 200
Apr 10 13:42:47 <MJR_>	or is he a planetary purist
Apr 10 13:42:56 <MJR_>	another obvious dump and buy
Apr 10 13:43:39 <pgp>	not so sure about that...
Apr 10 13:43:40 <bitesak>	seems like a possible strategy indeed
Apr 10 13:43:48 <Bugpowdurr>	I want my putttts
Apr 10 13:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2629 BTC [-]
Apr 10 13:44:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2688 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:44:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.268888 = 0.5378 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:44:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.289 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:44:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.299998 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:44:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3 = 15 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:44:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 44 @ 0.3 = 13.2 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:44:15 <pgp>	picking a bottom on a swift downdraft like this could be painful
Apr 10 13:44:22 <bitesak>	would you buy puts regardless of the lag at the time of purchase?
Apr 10 13:44:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.002779 = 1.3895 BTC [-]
Apr 10 13:44:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00277899 = 6.6696 BTC [-]
Apr 10 13:44:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2099 @ 0.0027 = 5.6673 BTC [-]
Apr 10 13:44:49 <pgp>	$10 spread - for real?  what a fucking joke!
Apr 10 13:45:32 <Bugpowdurr>	I always lose money buying puts
Apr 10 13:45:38 <Bugpowdurr>	but you never know!
Apr 10 13:45:53 <bitesak>	once you might win !
Apr 10 13:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.12 BTC [+]
Apr 10 13:46:07 <bitesak>	;;goxlag
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Apr 10 13:46:08 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2414.772998 seconds. During this time, light travels 4.83917805085 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
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Apr 10 13:47:02 <bitesak>	200 is gone
Apr 10 13:47:07 <Lornzz>	hio
Apr 10 13:47:12 <MJR_>	fun times
Apr 10 13:47:15 <MJR_>	blood in the streets
Apr 10 13:47:31 <MJR_>	;;calc 2414/60
Apr 10 13:47:31 <gribble>	40.2333333333
Apr 10 13:47:36 <MJR_>	40 minutes lag will do that
Apr 10 13:47:40 <Lornzz>	may someone give me a pointer to where i can find a satoshidice related channel?
Apr 10 13:47:56 <thestringpuller>	someone just made a lot of money
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Apr 10 13:48:00 <MJR_>	i guess no one has declared self-help?
Apr 10 13:48:00 <pgp>	<Bugpowdurr> feeling better about exercising?
Apr 10 13:48:11 <MJR_>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 13:48:13 <gribble>	227.18
Apr 10 13:48:18 <MJR_>	hmmm
Apr 10 13:48:22 <pgp>	it wrong
Apr 10 13:48:26 <pgp>	196
Apr 10 13:48:33 <pgp>	210
Apr 10 13:48:34 <jborkl_>	btce and virtex are showing 170
Apr 10 13:48:36 <MJR_>	;;calc (227.18-164)/227.18
Apr 10 13:48:36 <gribble>	0.278105467031
Apr 10 13:48:37 <pgp>	$14 spread...
Apr 10 13:49:02 <Scrat>	i think gox just died
Apr 10 13:49:08 <bitesak>	can I exercise now on coinbr?
Apr 10 13:49:12 <MJR_>	yes you can
Apr 10 13:49:23 <FabianB_>	Lornzz: about investing or gambling?
Apr 10 13:49:34 <bitesak>	it will be based on the avg price?
Apr 10 13:49:34 <deadweasel>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 13:49:36 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2513.197929 seconds. During this time, light travels 5.03642051055 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
Apr 10 13:49:42 <pgp>	just imagine if gox supported buy stop and sell stop orders...
Apr 10 13:50:13 <Lornzz>	FabianB_:  gambling related
Apr 10 13:50:19 <Lornzz>	actually
Apr 10 13:50:20 <Lornzz>	^_^
Apr 10 13:50:21 <Lornzz>	support related
Apr 10 13:50:32 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 10 13:50:33 <FabianB_>	dunno then, probably not
Apr 10 13:50:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 194.10508, Best ask: 200.00000, Bid-ask spread: 5.89492, Last trade: 194.10508, 24 hour volume: 96446.18641015, 24 hour low: 194.10508, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 236.68617
Apr 10 13:50:36 <deadweasel>	try the forums.
Apr 10 13:50:45 <topace|2>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 13:50:46 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2521.606381 seconds. During this time, light travels 5.05327095421 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
Apr 10 13:50:50 <topace|2>	jesus
Apr 10 13:50:58 <Lornzz>	which forums are you talking about? bitcoinstalk.org?
Apr 10 13:51:03 <topace|2>	mtgox ddos ?
Apr 10 13:51:04 <pgp>	avg price is not working correctly...  for sure
Apr 10 13:51:31 <MJR_>	it is
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Apr 10 13:51:44 <MJR_>	i just exercised at the exact same as the bot said
Apr 10 13:52:20 <bitesak>	just did
Apr 10 13:52:34 <deadweasel>	194 was the low
Apr 10 13:53:58 <Chilca>	;;ticker
Apr 10 13:53:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 193.15000, Best ask: 199.29345, Bid-ask spread: 6.14345, Last trade: 193.15000, 24 hour volume: 96446.18641015, 24 hour low: 194.10508, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 236.68617
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Apr 10 13:54:06 <pgp>	$avg
Apr 10 13:54:10 <mpexbot>	pgp: 227.18
Apr 10 13:54:38 <pgp>	that number hasn't changed in over an hour
Apr 10 13:54:47 <ThickAsThieves>	it hasnt change for longer than that
Apr 10 13:54:52 <ThickAsThieves>	possibly all day
Apr 10 13:54:54 <pgp>	prolly
Apr 10 13:55:10 <Bugpowdurr>	yeah, despite the bitcoincharts number updating
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Apr 10 13:55:21 <Bugpowdurr>	Maybe MP ran off with all teh coinz
Apr 10 13:55:34 <ThickAsThieves>	[08:19] <deadweasel> $avg
Apr 10 13:55:34 <ThickAsThieves>	[08:19] <mpexbot> deadweasel: 227.18
Apr 10 13:55:45 <bitesak>	drama has to come from somewhere
Apr 10 13:55:52 <Bugpowdurr>	game over man!
Apr 10 13:56:00 <pgp>	can't get to bitcoincharts - what do it say?
Apr 10 13:56:01 <Bugpowdurr>	ok bounce at 150 now
Apr 10 13:56:07 <gesell>	ddos
Apr 10 13:56:19 <Bugpowdurr>	its was 229.11 but sure that has dropped since then.
Apr 10 13:57:17 <unbalanced_>	bitcoinity down
Apr 10 13:57:18 <pgp>	236 avg for gox alone
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Apr 10 13:57:38 <pgp>	bitcoinity down for me too...
Apr 10 13:57:51 <pgp>	bitfloor still down too
Apr 10 13:57:56 <pgp>	not good
Apr 10 13:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.285 = 2.28 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 13:58:23 <Bugpowdurr>	bitfloor got hacked again
Apr 10 13:58:26 <Bugpowdurr>	duuuug
Apr 10 13:58:29 <Bugpowdurr>	duch
Apr 10 13:59:27 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowdurr noway ?!
Apr 10 13:59:33 <pgp>	190 on gox
Apr 10 14:00:15 <Bugpowdurr>	lawl
Apr 10 14:00:22 <Bugpowdurr>	where is dat putssss
Apr 10 14:00:25 <pgp>	now relegated to hitting refresh on gox website....
Apr 10 14:00:36 <Bugpowdurr>	fix your vwap brah
Apr 10 14:01:06 <bitesak>	exercising your calls is not enough?
Apr 10 14:01:07 <pgp>	mpex using bad vwap
Apr 10 14:01:19 <Scrat>	pgp: you can join #bitcoin-market , amphipod seems to have a telepathic connection to exchanges
Apr 10 14:02:06 <gesell>	any time max keiser opens his mouth things go to shit
Apr 10 14:02:27 <mircea_popescu>	well, no bitcoincharts, no vwap.
Apr 10 14:02:43 <Namworld>	lol... max keiser for the win
Apr 10 14:02:53 <gesell>	amen
Apr 10 14:03:02 <bitesak>	is the forum down too?
Apr 10 14:03:07 <BitHub>	lulz keiser
Apr 10 14:03:11 <BitHub>	god bless that man
Apr 10 14:03:16 <mod6>	well, max & stacy were talking every day like buy buy buy
Apr 10 14:03:29 <gesell>	i'd love to see a panel with mircea_popescu and max keiser together :P
Apr 10 14:03:38 <bitesak>	bitcoinity is back
Apr 10 14:03:57 <mod6>	and these "journalists" on all the blogs and ZH, etc, nothing but just garbage reporting.
Apr 10 14:04:15 <mod6>	i even liked ZH for a while, but this stuff lately has been outright retarded
Apr 10 14:04:25 <mod6>	:<
Apr 10 14:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	gesell he kinda got his ass handed to him last week so
Apr 10 14:05:29 <MJR_>	no one selling calls?
Apr 10 14:05:31 <mircea_popescu>	i don't imagine he's gonna.
Apr 10 14:05:55 <pgp>	wow  low 183...
Apr 10 14:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2629 BTC [-]
Apr 10 14:06:12 <Chilca>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:06:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 194.17125, Best ask: 198.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.82875, Last trade: 183.00000, 24 hour volume: 97280.46863889, 24 hour low: 183.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 235.67905
Apr 10 14:06:30 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: where was that, i didnt see
Apr 10 14:06:31 <MJR_>	Mtgox is currently having some issue. Only orders routed to Bitfinex will be processed until Mtgox service has returned to normal.
Apr 10 14:06:32 <Bugpowdurr>	bitfloor is back
Apr 10 14:06:43 <MJR_>	and over 200
Apr 10 14:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	gesell on twitter. he was all herpderp bitcoin went to 150 as predicted now it is going to 500
Apr 10 14:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	this on the 3rd
Apr 10 14:07:05 <mircea_popescu>	i was like stfu noob, get in line.
Apr 10 14:07:13 <ThickAsThieves>	where is juriv
Apr 10 14:07:15 <MJR_>	20 point spread on bfx
Apr 10 14:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	then the trend broke and then he was all distraught
Apr 10 14:07:16 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov*
Apr 10 14:07:58 <MJR_>	you will see the flood of buy orders from 30 minutes ago start to come in now i think, we are trading with people in the past now
Apr 10 14:08:16 <deadweasel>	this had to happen.. it's good
Apr 10 14:08:23 <MJR_>	hey, i agree
Apr 10 14:08:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:08:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.00000, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 7.00000, Last trade: 190.00000, 24 hour volume: 97280.46863889, 24 hour low: 183.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 235.67905
Apr 10 14:08:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 14:08:35 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3141.535095 seconds. During this time, light travels 6.295601156 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
Apr 10 14:08:43 <ThickAsThieves>	fuck you gox
Apr 10 14:08:45 <Scrat>	check bitstamp
Apr 10 14:09:11 <deadweasel>	Scrat is right, get a good subset of exchange prices at #bitcoin-market
Apr 10 14:09:37 <pgp>	yep - good call, scrat
Apr 10 14:09:39 <gesell>	gox should lower the number of bids one can make based on current lag. that way small orders can drag things down, aand its analog'ish enough that as they fix lag issues even buts can do what they want
Apr 10 14:09:53 <gesell>	s/can/cant
Apr 10 14:10:29 <gesell>	btw, anyone have a contact to magicaltux? I would like to inform him of this 0day that would crash the websockets interface.
Apr 10 14:10:51 <MJR_>	PM on forum?
Apr 10 14:10:52 <Bugpowdurr>	isnt' that 0day like 3 months old?
Apr 10 14:11:02 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:11:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.00000, Best ask: 198.00000, Bid-ask spread: 18.00000, Last trade: 180.00000, 24 hour volume: 97429.84097955, 24 hour low: 180.75700, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 235.29545
Apr 10 14:11:07 <gesell>	yeah i mentioned it here 2 or 3 months ago but havent published it at all
Apr 10 14:11:09 <Scrat>	Bugpowdurr: then it's a.... 3month
Apr 10 14:11:11 <gesell>	so its still 0day
Apr 10 14:11:11 <Scrat>	YEAAAAAHHHH
Apr 10 14:11:12 <pigeons>	gesell: /q magicaltux
Apr 10 14:11:13 <gesell>	no one has used it
Apr 10 14:11:37 <gesell>	no user magicaltux around these parts
Apr 10 14:11:39 <deadweasel>	are you sure?
Apr 10 14:12:10 <gesell>	deadweasel: not publically at least and the current dos's are actually DDoS or 1:1 dos. Not crashing the interface, as far as ive hard
Apr 10 14:12:11 <Scrat>	bitstamp 115
Apr 10 14:12:12 <Scrat>	the fuck
Apr 10 14:12:15 <gesell>	so no, no one has used it yet
Apr 10 14:12:22 <pigeons>	he is here, look in #mtgox and check your spelling
Apr 10 14:12:38 <gesell>	cant join need +r
Apr 10 14:12:52 <pigeons>	well /q magicaltux works
Apr 10 14:13:31 <Scrat>	gesell: to which websocket daemon does that apply?
Apr 10 14:14:12 <gesell>	socket.io lib of nodejs
Apr 10 14:14:39 <MJR_>	i was hoping today would be exciting
Apr 10 14:14:45 <gesell>	tested it once, watched it go down and come right back up (meaning there is some mitigation to this)
Apr 10 14:15:17 <MJR_>	isn't socket.io supposed to fail over to other transport mechanisms?
Apr 10 14:15:23 <bitesak>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 14:15:24 <Scrat>	well, correlation is not causation
Apr 10 14:15:25 <MJR_>	xhr, flash, etc
Apr 10 14:15:25 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3440.907279 seconds. During this time, light travels 6.8955396608 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
Apr 10 14:15:29 <Scrat>	download node, set it up and test it
Apr 10 14:15:40 <MJR_>	i have an instance running right now, and it does fall back to xhr
Apr 10 14:16:10 <Scrat>	MJR_: fallback has nothing to do with node crashing though
Apr 10 14:16:11 <gesell>	Scrat: this is true. im not looking for anything from this but actually the way i and friend came to this was because he was working on a project for google that used the same lib and he found the problem there. so i would just pass it along if possible
Apr 10 14:16:37 <Scrat>	gesell: I actually use socket.io heavily and I've worked on a pretty big deployment of it last year
Apr 10 14:16:40 <gesell>	Scrat: we were able to at least confirm in a local test enviornment that the lib for nodejs has the problem, and could replicate
Apr 10 14:16:44 <pgp>	$120 -wtf
Apr 10 14:17:07 <Bugpowdurr>	where is the 120
Apr 10 14:18:02 <pgp>	bitstamp
Apr 10 14:18:16 <bitesak>	directly on the site ?
Apr 10 14:18:20 <pgp>	yes
Apr 10 14:18:35 <bitesak>	I get the cloudflare Always Up farce
Apr 10 14:18:39 <pgp>	518 coins offered 120
Apr 10 14:18:50 <Scrat>	it aint a fluke either, been < 130 for the last 20 mins
Apr 10 14:18:54 <mod6>	my puts are ITM?
Apr 10 14:19:00 <mod6>	neat
Apr 10 14:19:02 <MJR_>	you sure it is USD?
Apr 10 14:19:04 <MJR_>	not EUR
Apr 10 14:19:13 <kakobrekla>	its usd
Apr 10 14:19:29 <kakobrekla>	there were sell orders for ~100$
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Apr 10 14:19:39 <MJR_>	gox is so annoying
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Apr 10 14:19:51 <kakobrekla>	gox is causing panic
Apr 10 14:19:56 <pgp>	173 gox - new low
Apr 10 14:19:56 <MJR_>	i know, i love that part
Apr 10 14:20:05 <MJR_>	blood in the streets
Apr 10 14:20:15 <MJR_>	i don't care what you give me, just take this NAO
Apr 10 14:20:17 <bitesak>	oops
Apr 10 14:20:22 <Bugpowder_>	Well my bids start at $91
Apr 10 14:20:25 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Apr 10 14:20:30 <bitesak>	120$ indeed on stamps
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Apr 10 14:21:51 <jborkl_>	btce 137
Apr 10 14:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.2629 = 2.3661 BTC [-]
Apr 10 14:22:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.284 = 5.68 BTC [+]
Apr 10 14:22:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.3 = 3.3 BTC [+]
Apr 10 14:22:25 <pgp>	wow
Apr 10 14:22:47 <jborkl_>	people are realizing how much bitcoins and $ virtex is making
Apr 10 14:22:50 <pgp>	i hear a popping sound...
Apr 10 14:22:56 <jborkl_>	especially with gox all fucked up
Apr 10 14:23:18 <pgp>	157 gox
Apr 10 14:24:01 <Chilca>	how can you check gox order book or price?
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Apr 10 14:24:31 <pgp>	150
Apr 10 14:24:57 <KRS-1>	pop as in bubble
Apr 10 14:25:01 <Bugpowder_>	$40 spread
Apr 10 14:25:09 <KRS-1>	wtf is happening
Apr 10 14:25:11 <Bugpowder_>	anyone want to buy some C302Ts?
Apr 10 14:25:27 <bitesak>	sure
Apr 10 14:25:28 <MJR_>	Bugpowder_: how much?
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Apr 10 14:25:40 <taub>	only mtgox source right now for me is the stream from bitcoin charts
Apr 10 14:25:46 <taub>	i guess their ticker still works too
Apr 10 14:25:52 <MJR_>	i'm watching #bitcoin-market
Apr 10 14:25:55 <taub>	https://mtgox.com/api/1/BTCUSD/ticker
Apr 10 14:26:03 <gesell>	wow, this is a new test of the market for certain
Apr 10 14:26:04 <taub>	no point in looking at book data, 60min lag
Apr 10 14:26:12 <farfi>	good time to shut of the computer :)
Apr 10 14:26:14 <taub>	yea, well this was long overdue
Apr 10 14:26:26 <pgp>	for sure
Apr 10 14:26:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:26:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 156.01003, Best ask: 180.00000, Bid-ask spread: 23.98997, Last trade: 180.00000, 24 hour volume: 100647.42874735, 24 hour low: 157.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 232.22003
Apr 10 14:26:33 <Bugpowder_>	150 will be hard to break
Apr 10 14:26:34 <taub>	if you look at a 240m chart it doesnt look that bad, considering the steep upmove
Apr 10 14:26:38 <taub>	what pisses me off
Apr 10 14:26:39 <Bugpowder_>	100 impossiburu?
Apr 10 14:26:43 <taub>	that i bought in back at 250
Apr 10 14:26:45 <pgp>	whoops, there went the bitfloor book again...
Apr 10 14:26:48 <taub>	after selling at 220
Apr 10 14:26:59 <gesell>	taub: you are in good company. i purchased some new coin at 250 as well
Apr 10 14:27:05 <bitesak>	105 on stamp
Apr 10 14:27:18 <jborkl_>	btce130
Apr 10 14:27:39 <gesell>	not much but. whatevs
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Apr 10 14:28:05 <pgp>	bitfloor back - 150
Apr 10 14:28:08 <taub>	goxlag is just compounding this crash...
Apr 10 14:28:15 <MJR_>	yep
Apr 10 14:28:24 <MJR_>	hope they all sell already and go away
Apr 10 14:28:24 <Namworld>	150? Nah, going to fall like flies
Apr 10 14:28:26 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:28:27 <Bugpowder_>	wake me when gox hits 149
Apr 10 14:28:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 156.01003, Best ask: 180.00000, Bid-ask spread: 23.98997, Last trade: 156.01003, 24 hour volume: 100861.53781031, 24 hour low: 156.01003, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.92817
Apr 10 14:28:34 <mircea_popescu>	whoever sees tux can tell him that gox leeched ~5mn dollars off the community this month.
Apr 10 14:28:36 <Namworld>	being hit by an explosion
Apr 10 14:28:42 <pgp>	100 on bitstamp
Apr 10 14:28:44 <Scrat>	Bugpowder_: are you sure the wall at 150 is real?
Apr 10 14:28:45 <mircea_popescu>	for the privilege of fucking it over.
Apr 10 14:28:47 <taub>	Bugpowder_: it's already ay 156
Apr 10 14:29:03 <MJR_>	lol fuck
Apr 10 14:29:05 <pgp>	118 on bitfloor
Apr 10 14:29:08 <MJR_>	i'm seeing 109 on bitfloor
Apr 10 14:29:10 <pgp>	109
Apr 10 14:29:22 <pgp>	holy mother of god!
Apr 10 14:29:25 <MJR_>	buy buy buy
Apr 10 14:29:32 <pgp>	crazy shit
Apr 10 14:29:40 <MJR_>	yep
Apr 10 14:29:46 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 10 14:29:50 <MJR_>	and now back to 148
Apr 10 14:29:54 <MJR_>	dumbassses
Apr 10 14:30:14 <taub>	yea
Apr 10 14:30:19 <MJR_>	its funny that they think of limit orders as "too advanced" but i think the market order should come with two warnings
Apr 10 14:30:19 <taub>	looks like i caught the wrong end of this
Apr 10 14:30:20 <Bugpowder_>	82EUR
Apr 10 14:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	where's that quote where i say "every dollar over 100 is a dollar lost "?
Apr 10 14:30:25 <taub>	fug
Apr 10 14:30:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:30:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 170.00000, Best ask: 180.00000, Bid-ask spread: 10.00000, Last trade: 180.00000, 24 hour volume: 100861.53781031, 24 hour low: 156.01003, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.92817
Apr 10 14:30:32 <gesell>	anyone, what happen to the huge lower buy walls that were there about 30 minutes before the crash?
Apr 10 14:30:38 <gesell>	were they removed, soaked up?
Apr 10 14:30:40 <taub>	i wonder what max kaiser is spouting now
Apr 10 14:30:54 <pgp>	i wonder when cnbc is pick up this story...
Apr 10 14:31:00 <mod6>	lol
Apr 10 14:31:08 <Namworld>	Max Kaiser has cashed out already and is wondering what else he's going to pump & dump now?
Apr 10 14:31:08 <taub>	oh his twitter has been slient for 4 h :D
Apr 10 14:31:20 <taub>	lol yea
Apr 10 14:31:36 <MJR_>	eh, all this day to day is silly anyway, 100k or 0...
Apr 10 14:31:49 <MJR_>	but i appreciate the buying opportunity
Apr 10 14:31:58 <taub>	yea exactly
Apr 10 14:32:02 <taub>	im not concerned long run
Apr 10 14:32:02 <gesell>	agree
Apr 10 14:32:06 <MJR_>	exactly
Apr 10 14:32:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:32:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 181.00000, Best ask: 195.00000, Bid-ask spread: 14.00000, Last trade: 175.00000, 24 hour volume: 100987.02516697, 24 hour low: 156.01003, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.76704
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Apr 10 14:32:19 <taub>	but i want to use opportunities to aquire more coins
Apr 10 14:32:22 <MJR_>	def
Apr 10 14:32:26 <taub>	so far i missed a big one here
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Apr 10 14:32:46 <Bugpowder_>	I think amphipod lost the gox stream
Apr 10 14:32:47 <MJR_>	ah cuz you didn't get out and get back in? there will be many more crashes in the future
Apr 10 14:32:49 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov where arrrrrrrre you
Apr 10 14:32:54 <pgp>	190 gox
Apr 10 14:32:58 <kakobrekla>	78$ stamp
Apr 10 14:33:01 <kakobrekla>	buy time
Apr 10 14:33:02 <MJR_>	just saw it
Apr 10 14:33:08 <Bugpowder_>	nvmd
Apr 10 14:33:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol 80
Apr 10 14:33:12 <MJR_>	rallying on bitfloor
Apr 10 14:33:12 <kakobrekla>	if i can get the page to load up
Apr 10 14:33:18 <MJR_>	155 now
Apr 10 14:33:22 <MJR_>	after touching 108
Apr 10 14:33:23 <jborkl_>	btce back up to 160
Apr 10 14:33:34 <kakobrekla>	price is between 80 and 200 rite now
Apr 10 14:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	Apr 03 14:11:19 <Bugpowder>	getting tempted of shaving of a bit
Apr 10 14:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	Apr 03 14:11:22 <mircea_popescu>	and when they finally panic they'll expect actual players to buy from them.
Apr 10 14:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	Apr 03 14:11:25 <mircea_popescu>	it won't happen over 100.
Apr 10 14:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	Apr 03 14:11:37 <mircea_popescu>	so basicvally... any dollar over 100 anyone pays on a btc is a dollar lost.
Apr 10 14:33:48 <MJR_>	kakobrekla i think between 0 and 80k
Apr 10 14:33:50 *	mircea_popescu rubs everyone
Apr 10 14:33:53 <mircea_popescu>	's mug in it
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Apr 10 14:33:59 <jborkl_>	btc e 175
Apr 10 14:34:15 <MJR_>	182 bitfloor
Apr 10 14:34:17 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 10 14:34:21 <Namworld>	I sold at 250 luckily...
Apr 10 14:34:25 <MJR_>	guess the dump and buy is done huh?
Apr 10 14:34:55 <wao>	see $78
Apr 10 14:34:57 <jborkl_>	btc e 190
Apr 10 14:34:57 <wao>	at stamp
Apr 10 14:34:57 <bitesak>	would like to see the lag down before calling it done
Apr 10 14:35:03 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 10 14:35:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 14:35:07 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 4304.957932 seconds. During this time, light travels 8.62708749502 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
Apr 10 14:35:17 <MJR_>	YAY we made it past jupiter!
Apr 10 14:35:22 <pgp>	bitstamp is at $78
Apr 10 14:35:24 <taub>	lol
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Apr 10 14:35:32 <MJR_>	if we slingshot, we could have made it past saturn
Apr 10 14:35:34 <gesell>	like i said, what happen to the 2 huge near $1m buy walls about $5 and $15 below market price that were there about 30 min before the crash?
Apr 10 14:35:38 <MJR_>	jk
Apr 10 14:35:45 <bitesak>	funny world
Apr 10 14:36:11 <MJR_>	gesell: i would imagine that once they cleared the book, they pulled those and then watched it sink
Apr 10 14:36:32 <MJR_>	simply market manipulation
Apr 10 14:36:40 <taub>	$50 spread on the gox now
Apr 10 14:36:44 <gesell>	MJR_: yeah I'm not sure. Wouldnt assume that yet, unless someone saw them when they were up, and saw them removed just before the crash
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Apr 10 14:37:05 <taub>	http://images.4chan.org/pol/src/1365618292494.png
Apr 10 14:37:08 <MJR_>	gesell: i wasn't watching them, but absolutely nothing changed since yesterday and today
Apr 10 14:37:22 <MJR_>	if anything, i think this is someone very bullish, who just didn't want to pay full price
Apr 10 14:37:29 <MJR_>	perhaps a big fund or something
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Apr 10 14:37:49 <MJR_>	back to 195
Apr 10 14:37:58 <kakobrekla>	not so fast!
Apr 10 14:38:04 <kakobrekla>	i just bought at 78 at stamp
Apr 10 14:38:04 <ThickAsThieves>	this was people that were smart enoug to realize 265 was a ridic price
Apr 10 14:38:05 <MJR_>	on bitfloor it just ticked at 195
Apr 10 14:38:06 <pgp>	second chance to sell
Apr 10 14:38:27 <MJR_>	kakobrekla: why ridiculous?
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Apr 10 14:38:38 <kakobrekla>	wha?
Apr 10 14:38:39 <MJR_>	i think in the grand scheme of things, it'll look cheap at 10x that
Apr 10 14:38:40 <pgp>	somebody tell those buys that the crash is over...
Apr 10 14:38:47 <kakobrekla>	MJR_ i didnt say dat :p
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Apr 10 14:38:55 <ThickAsThieves>	ridic because of the parabolic rise
Apr 10 14:39:06 <MJR_>	eh, picture ten years in the future
Apr 10 14:39:11 <bitesak>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 14:39:11 <ThickAsThieves>	no thanks
Apr 10 14:39:14 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 4530.11715 seconds. During this time, light travels 9.07830404688 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
Apr 10 14:39:18 <MJR_>	and put that against a $265 betg
Apr 10 14:39:39 <MJR_>	i don't care about the $265, so it actually really doesn't matter what price i pay
Apr 10 14:39:44 <ThickAsThieves>	youre nuts if you think 10 years will paint a totally new landscape
Apr 10 14:39:45 <taub>	nice kakobrekla
Apr 10 14:39:46 <pgp>	too far, too fast...
Apr 10 14:39:51 <ThickAsThieves>	wont
Apr 10 14:39:56 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: the world will be unrecognizable
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Apr 10 14:40:19 <MJR_>	i want to go drink some tears from redditors...brb
Apr 10 14:40:54 <bitesak>	back UP :) to 96
Apr 10 14:40:59 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:41:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 172.00000, Best ask: 190.97000, Bid-ask spread: 18.97000, Last trade: 190.97000, 24 hour volume: 101854.75453118, 24 hour low: 150.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 229.94480
Apr 10 14:41:07 <Namworld>	150 low
Apr 10 14:41:15 <Namworld>	we just hit a few moments ago
Apr 10 14:41:18 <MJR_>	ugh people are so amazingly stupid
Apr 10 14:41:25 <bitesak>	on stamp I meant
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Apr 10 14:41:41 <KRS-1>	lemmings
Apr 10 14:41:44 <Chilca>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:41:55 <punkman>	$70 low at bitstamp
Apr 10 14:42:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.00000, Best ask: 190.97000, Bid-ask spread: 10.97000, Last trade: 180.00000, 24 hour volume: 101854.75453118, 24 hour low: 150.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 229.94480
Apr 10 14:42:01 <MJR_>	with crazy market orders, you get ticks at 197 and then 150
Apr 10 14:42:17 <pgp>	bitcoinity back up
Apr 10 14:42:31 <MJR_>	LOL just saw 224 on bitfloor
Apr 10 14:42:34 <MJR_>	hhehehe
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Apr 10 14:43:20 <pgp>	30 point spread on bitfloor
Apr 10 14:43:49 <taub>	i hope everyone switches to bitfloor or something
Apr 10 14:43:53 <taub>	mtgox is done after this
Apr 10 14:43:54 <taub>	it has to b
Apr 10 14:43:56 <pgp>	gox 165
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Apr 10 14:44:20 <Scrat>	taub: sadly no. stockholm syndrome
Apr 10 14:44:25 <taub>	might as well go to bed, nothing gonna happen
Apr 10 14:44:36 <mircea_popescu>	taub it won't be
Apr 10 14:44:37 <taub>	price will clime back into 220-240 area
Apr 10 14:44:44 <taub>	and then drop again
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Apr 10 14:45:34 <taub>	(i hope)
Apr 10 14:45:47 <mod6>	get 'em cheap!
Apr 10 14:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.235 BTC [-]
Apr 10 14:46:33 <pgp>	this is over...
Apr 10 14:46:55 <pgp>	gox 150
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Apr 10 14:47:03 <iz>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:47:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 160.00000, Best ask: 177.98034, Bid-ask spread: 17.98034, Last trade: 177.98034, 24 hour volume: 102458.74013324, 24 hour low: 150.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 229.49595
Apr 10 14:47:15 <iz>	lol, what did you do?!?!
Apr 10 14:47:20 <mod6>	haha
Apr 10 14:47:46 <splnkr>	I'd give Kraken a try but the fact they have Lorem Ipsum text on their homepage isn't encouraging
Apr 10 14:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 14:48:19 <taub>	kraken isn't live yet
Apr 10 14:48:25 <taub>	its just beta with fake money
Apr 10 14:48:28 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 14:48:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 4497.755235 seconds. During this time, light travels 9.01345113156 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
Apr 10 14:48:55 <splnkr>	ahhhh i see taub ok
Apr 10 14:48:55 <pgp>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:48:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 159.02439, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 30.97561, Last trade: 159.02439, 24 hour volume: 103170.69059839, 24 hour low: 150.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 228.83195
Apr 10 14:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
Apr 10 14:49:04 <jborkl_>	If it gets past Pluto I think we are screwed
Apr 10 14:49:05 <pgp>	fuckin' spread!
Apr 10 14:49:28 <benkay>	ticket to cluetrain plz? did anything in particular blow up?
Apr 10 14:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	benkay mtgox.
Apr 10 14:49:43 <benkay>	is that result or cause
Apr 10 14:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	that is result and cause.
Apr 10 14:49:59 <benkay>	stinky.
Apr 10 14:50:08 <pgp>	chicken and egg
Apr 10 14:50:10 <benkay>	four thousand second lag.
Apr 10 14:50:12 <taub>	bitstamp $200?
Apr 10 14:50:19 <taub>	lol
Apr 10 14:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
Apr 10 14:50:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 14:50:36 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 4375.270055 seconds. During this time, light travels 8.76799220226 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
Apr 10 14:50:38 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't that look pretty.
Apr 10 14:50:39 <pgp>	their matching engine is totally fubar right now...
Apr 10 14:51:03 <pgp>	we're gonna break 150
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Apr 10 14:51:31 <pgp>	then more unpleasantness...
Apr 10 14:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	988.13	a few seconds ago	150.00
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Apr 10 14:51:53 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 10 14:51:55 <pgp>	149
Apr 10 14:52:06 <Namworld>	;;ticker
Apr 10 14:52:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.00000, Best ask: 149.00000, Bid-ask spread: 7.00000, Last trade: 142.00000, 24 hour volume: 103170.69059839, 24 hour low: 150.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 228.83195
Apr 10 14:52:15 <Namworld>	YEEHAA
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Apr 10 14:52:24 <benkay>	cool
Apr 10 14:52:27 <benkay>	cheap coins foar me
Apr 10 14:52:31 <Scrat>	ohshizzle
Apr 10 14:52:34 <taub>	I think mp is smiling right now
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Apr 10 14:52:53 <pgp>	like mana from the heavens
Apr 10 14:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	i am just holding up a "told you so" card.
Apr 10 14:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	next time listen bettar, all.
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Apr 10 14:53:53 <pgp>	mpoe bond holders gonna have a good month afterall?
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Apr 10 14:53:57 <KRS-1>	lol
Apr 10 14:54:15 <bitesak_>	the month is not over yet
Apr 10 14:54:20 <taub>	exactly
Apr 10 14:54:32 <taub>	gonna sleep, cya in 5 hours
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Apr 10 14:54:37 <ThickAsThieves>	many people will still able to excercise at a profit
Apr 10 14:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	i'll post a report jus' as soon as the month's done.
Apr 10 14:54:41 <mod6>	still 16 days until options expiration
Apr 10 14:54:54 <ThickAsThieves>	were*
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Apr 10 14:55:34 <benkay>	mircea_popescu will you be offering longer term options?
Apr 10 14:55:59 <mircea_popescu>	just as soon as a majority of the trade happens on N month
Apr 10 14:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	i'll offer further out.
Apr 10 14:56:20 <taub>	all those fools that took out loans just to buy at 250 rofl
Apr 10 14:56:27 <taub>	ouch
Apr 10 14:56:31 <pgp>	142
Apr 10 14:56:32 <mircea_popescu>	max keiser told them
Apr 10 14:56:52 <taub>	i wonder what he'll say to this haaa
Apr 10 14:56:55 <taub>	NAKED SHORTS
Apr 10 14:56:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 10 14:57:14 <ThickAsThieves>	hmm i'm seeing a couple problems with my coinbr excercisings
Apr 10 14:57:24 <ThickAsThieves>	got 0 back from things that shouldnt have been total losses
Apr 10 14:57:27 <pgp>	140
Apr 10 14:58:17 <pgp>	I wonder how badly bitfinex fared - lots of margin selling into non-existent market
Apr 10 14:58:19 <benkay>	what do y'all anticipate the market to bottom out at?
Apr 10 14:58:29 <taub>	70-100
Apr 10 14:58:39 <pgp>	below 100
Apr 10 14:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	100
Apr 10 14:59:15 <benkay>	and expected 'retrace' (i think is the correct word?)
Apr 10 14:59:19 <benkay>	?
Apr 10 14:59:34 <mircea_popescu>	not like it's a term of art.
Apr 10 14:59:41 <jcpham>	so how are you guys doing
Apr 10 14:59:56 <jcpham>	i thought we were taking it over 9000 for sure
Apr 10 15:00:00 <jcpham>	njo retraces
Apr 10 15:00:00 <Scrat>	mtgox     x25    18.6796 @   127.54566208 USD
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Apr 10 15:00:13 <pgp>	yikes
Apr 10 15:00:19 <jcpham>	perfect op to buy
Apr 10 15:00:35 <Bugpowdurrrr>	I hope my bids get hit
Apr 10 15:00:48 <jcpham>	now that we see $100 swings are feasible there's actual money to be made
Apr 10 15:00:53 <pgp>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:00:55 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.00000, Best ask: 156.92398, Bid-ask spread: 31.92398, Last trade: 125.00000, 24 hour volume: 107629.21996269, 24 hour low: 126.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 223.42581
Apr 10 15:00:59 <Bugpowdurrrr>	oooo
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Apr 10 15:01:10 <jcpham>	dat spread
Apr 10 15:01:15 <Scrat>	jcpham: yes, very easy if you have direct access to the engine
Apr 10 15:01:20 <Scrat>	and noone will notice
Apr 10 15:01:29 <pgp>	bugpowder: 91 your number?
Apr 10 15:02:28 <pgp>	you could fly a dreamline throught that spread...  ridiculous...
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Apr 10 15:03:26 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 10 15:03:27 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 10 15:03:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 15:03:44 <gribble>	227.18
Apr 10 15:04:01 <pgp>	120
Apr 10 15:04:27 <Bugpowdurrrr>	lol
Apr 10 15:04:38 <pgp>	and coinlab has no data at all...
Apr 10 15:05:30 <pgp>	and some guy bought on bitfloor at 197...  lol
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Apr 10 15:05:58 <pgp>	where are the "adults"?
Apr 10 15:05:58 <Bert__>	Anyone have speculated any particular reason why Bitcoin went down so rapiply.. Or is is just another expected correction to price that has raised too rapidly?
Apr 10 15:06:09 <Bugpowdurrrr>	gox better not run out of cash
Apr 10 15:06:16 <Bugpowdurrrr>	MY CASH
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Apr 10 15:06:39 <Bugpowdurrrr>	Bert__: Max Keiser
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Apr 10 15:07:15 <scottjp>	Where's mircea? Are we under attack?
Apr 10 15:07:20 <scottjp>	Feels like it
Apr 10 15:07:32 <benkay>	"attack"?
Apr 10 15:07:40 <mircea_popescu>	we're under attack
Apr 10 15:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	in the sense that idiots promote idiots
Apr 10 15:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	and then idiots do their idiotic thing
Apr 10 15:07:54 <iz>	lol
Apr 10 15:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	and then we wonder if we're under attack.
Apr 10 15:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	yes, we are. DO NOT USE MTGOX
Apr 10 15:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	then you won't have to ask me if we're under attack.
Apr 10 15:08:35 <benkay>	this publicity campaign again.
Apr 10 15:08:41 <benkay>	;)
Apr 10 15:08:52 <topace|2>	be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful
Apr 10 15:09:19 <mircea_popescu>	yea, yea. publicity campaign. sure.
Apr 10 15:09:20 <jborkl_>	Mp, did you push the big red button? lol
Apr 10 15:09:30 <pgp>	good book: reminiscences of a stock operator
Apr 10 15:09:37 <scottjp>	all the major sites are unresponsive - ddos or just traffic?
Apr 10 15:09:39 <jborkl_>	I'VE got my finger on the button
Apr 10 15:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:10:02 <Bugpowdurrrr>	lets hit 91 please
Apr 10 15:10:08 <Bugpowdurrrr>	or 32
Apr 10 15:10:16 <iz>	scottjp: ever see a bunch of fat guys try to go through the same doorway at the same time?
Apr 10 15:10:23 <pgp>	117
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Apr 10 15:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0027 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:10:37 <mircea_popescu>	scottjp all the minor sites (ie, everything other than mpex) just plain sucks.
Apr 10 15:10:52 <Namworld>	Is it me or we'll get a VERY good month for S.MPOE?
Apr 10 15:11:00 <Namworld>	I think most people were holding calls...
Apr 10 15:11:04 <Bugpowdurrrr>	there wasn't that much options action
Apr 10 15:11:09 <Bugpowdurrrr>	TBH
Apr 10 15:11:11 <mod6>	yeah, was I the only one that still had puts?
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Apr 10 15:11:23 <Bugpowdurrrr>	Namworld: did you stop buying puts?
Apr 10 15:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld it was about half calls half puts as i pointed out to jurov / he wanted to quote on the forum etc.
Apr 10 15:11:47 <mod6>	well, they're listed now ...
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Apr 10 15:13:01 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 15:13:01 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3858.490312 seconds. During this time, light travels 7.73237138344 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
Apr 10 15:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:13:16 <MJR_>	;;calc 3858/60
Apr 10 15:13:16 <gribble>	64.3
Apr 10 15:13:22 <benkay>	does this market even do price discovery with that much trading latency?
Apr 10 15:13:29 <FabianB_>	hope it drives some noobs out
Apr 10 15:13:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:13:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.00000, Best ask: 150.00000, Bid-ask spread: 34.00000, Last trade: 116.00000, 24 hour volume: 110659.55530272, 24 hour low: 116.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 220.40982
Apr 10 15:13:39 <mod6>	FabianB_: it will
Apr 10 15:13:59 <pgp>	benkay: not really
Apr 10 15:14:05 <pgp>	look at spread
Apr 10 15:14:13 <pgp>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:14:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.21951, Best ask: 133.38538, Bid-ask spread: 6.16587, Last trade: 150.00000, 24 hour volume: 110659.55530272, 24 hour low: 116.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 220.40982
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Apr 10 15:14:26 <pgp>	oh...  spread narrowed
Apr 10 15:14:33 <pgp>	was like 40
Apr 10 15:14:33 <salinawyldcat>	how do you check the time stamp of the lowest trade?
Apr 10 15:15:02 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 15:15:03 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3854.391173 seconds. During this time, light travels 7.72415675478 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
Apr 10 15:15:26 <jcpham>	data is an hour old
Apr 10 15:15:30 <jcpham>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 15:15:32 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3847.828407 seconds. During this time, light travels 7.71100504519 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
Apr 10 15:15:34 <jborkl_>	btce 124
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Apr 10 15:16:02 <pgp>	<+amphipod> Apr10 19:14:55 mtgox      x3    13.8943 @   112.35606189 USD
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Apr 10 15:16:50 <scottjp>	As I see it - we have broken into the mainstream ever so slightly and our systems don't hold up. This is part of the process I guess - this will help us improve - but it's pretty embarrassing
Apr 10 15:17:20 <Scrat>	porngo.at handled the load like a champ
Apr 10 15:17:22 <pgp>	fuck ya, it's embarassing...
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Apr 10 15:18:56 <ThickAsThieves>	gox won even let me place an ask
Apr 10 15:19:13 <pgp>	yesterday, I was having cocktails with VCs and everyone wants to talk to me about bitcoins - after today, they won't even recognize me
Apr 10 15:19:14 <ThickAsThieves>	button does nothing
Apr 10 15:19:19 <Scrat>	gox 109
Apr 10 15:19:38 <jcpham>	pgp i hope you mentioned to them about the manipulation
Apr 10 15:19:38 <pgp>	may 50 is the bottom?
Apr 10 15:19:41 <pgp>	maybe
Apr 10 15:19:43 <MJR_>	...
Apr 10 15:19:49 <MJR_>	you guys are trading with the past right now
Apr 10 15:19:53 <pgp>	by max kaiser?
Apr 10 15:19:54 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:19:54 <MJR_>	market orders from an hour ago
Apr 10 15:19:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.00000, Best ask: 149.07778, Bid-ask spread: 39.07778, Last trade: 149.07778, 24 hour volume: 111779.96618126, 24 hour low: 111.24300, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 219.22259
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Apr 10 15:20:07 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 15:20:07 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3401.086096 seconds. During this time, light travels 6.81573845593 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
Apr 10 15:20:17 <jcpham>	ijs if you are talking to money you should understand the market is heavily manipulated
Apr 10 15:20:21 <jcpham>	in more ways than one
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Apr 10 15:20:44 <jcpham>	the money needs to know someone can make a power play daily
Apr 10 15:20:48 <MJR_>	bitfloor is holding steady at 155
Apr 10 15:20:50 <OgNasty>	Anyone have a list of sites that take payment based on the 24 hour average?
Apr 10 15:21:01 <MJR_>	or even better, they can make power plays daily
Apr 10 15:21:05 <pgp>	nothing different than fiat markets
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Apr 10 15:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	lmao at this feed
Apr 10 15:21:08 <jcpham>	yes, that too
Apr 10 15:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	buys at 156 followed by sells at 125
Apr 10 15:21:25 <Bugggger>	try 107
Apr 10 15:21:28 <pgp>	laughable
Apr 10 15:21:30 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: yaaay lag!
Apr 10 15:21:35 <MJR_>	thats why market orders are pretty dumb in a supper laggy shit engine
Apr 10 15:21:38 <thestringpuller>	the great bubble
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Apr 10 15:21:47 <evoorhees>	what a crazy day!
Apr 10 15:21:52 <jcpham>	how many bubbles will we see though
Apr 10 15:21:55 <evoorhees>	many
Apr 10 15:21:57 <MJR_>	i'm guessing i'll get a good price in an hour from now
Apr 10 15:21:58 <mod6>	and whats this I heard about gox limiting orders to 100 at a time?
Apr 10 15:22:02 <jcpham>	bitcoin is like an economics history in hyperdrive
Apr 10 15:22:08 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_  there's two things biotcoin investors are too smart for : mpex  and limit orders.
Apr 10 15:22:08 <mod6>	that was supposed to go into effect today?
Apr 10 15:22:08 <jcpham>	which bubble was today
Apr 10 15:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	bless their souls.
Apr 10 15:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	hi evoorhees
Apr 10 15:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	you just lost 100mn dollah bro.
Apr 10 15:22:28 <MJR_>	hey evoorhees
Apr 10 15:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	i lost two.
Apr 10 15:22:45 <evoorhees>	a hundred million huh? :)
Apr 10 15:22:50 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. totally.
Apr 10 15:23:09 <evoorhees>	well then I will have an awesome capital loss deduction on my taxes
Apr 10 15:23:11 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 0
Apr 10 15:23:11 <gribble>	There are currently 42631227 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6143603.12416 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.8264 seconds
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Apr 10 15:23:16 <thestringpuller>	hahahahaha
Apr 10 15:23:20 <thestringpuller>	this i great
Apr 10 15:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	"hello irs ? yes this is dog"
Apr 10 15:23:22 <thestringpuller>	is
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Apr 10 15:23:36 <pgp>	150, 122, 150, 122...
Apr 10 15:24:07 <MJR_>	160 bitfloor
Apr 10 15:24:25 <MJR_>	i'm gonna get back to coding, i'll check back in a few hours
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Apr 10 15:24:58 <bgupta>	well if one is a believer, this could become a great opportunity… to pick up more coins
Apr 10 15:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.27 = 1.35 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.28649 = 0.573 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:03 <MJR_>	yep
Apr 10 15:25:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2864999 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2865 = 0.573 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2867 = 0.5734 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.287 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.287 = 0.574 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:07 <pgp>	this shit *is* distracting - that's for sure...
Apr 10 15:25:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.2875 = 3.45 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.288 = 0.576 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2898 = 0.8694 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.294 = 0.588 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.298 = 5.364 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:14 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.299 = 6.877 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:25:22 <MJR_>	nice! s.dice rally
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Apr 10 15:25:36 <MJR_>	in expectation of people dumping coins cuz of crash?
Apr 10 15:25:41 <mod6>	well pgp this is the most important thing in our generation, its hard not to pay attention.
Apr 10 15:25:42 <bgupta>	If it hits 50, I will sell some things that I don't really want to part with to take a larger btc position
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Apr 10 15:26:06 <mod6>	im glue'd as well :]
Apr 10 15:26:39 <pgp>	106
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Apr 10 15:27:16 <Bugpowda>	looks like the first wave of buys are starting to hit
Apr 10 15:27:21 <Scrat>	so who else made bank today, other than magicaltux
Apr 10 15:27:30 <Bugpowda>	I hope there is still one 20000 BTC market sell waiting to hit.
Apr 10 15:27:40 <Bugpowda>	before the bounce
Apr 10 15:27:46 <pgp>	yep - glued - soon to be enjoyed with a drink in hand - it's five o'clock somewhere, right?
Apr 10 15:27:56 <mod6>	haha, it sure is
Apr 10 15:27:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.37103 = 2.2262 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:28:10 <OgNasty>	I can't even get an order through gox...
Apr 10 15:28:13 <Bugpowda>	just hit 91 plz
Apr 10 15:28:19 <OgNasty>	Can't bounce if people can't buy.
Apr 10 15:28:22 <mod6>	and bitcoin will live to fight another day
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Apr 10 15:28:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 695 @ 0.00319 = 2.2171 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:28:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.003195 = 15.975 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:29:15 <pgp>	bitstamp seems to be normalized at 122
Apr 10 15:29:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 13 @ 0.37102 = 4.8233 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 15:31:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7342 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:31:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.732 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:31:22 <punkman>	do limit orders work on bitstamp?
Apr 10 15:31:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7313 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:31:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:31:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.727 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:31:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.702 = 1.404 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:31:40 <MJR_>	yep thats my point, we are watching a farce play out, but we can't intervene
Apr 10 15:31:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7013 = 3.5065 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:31:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.70014 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:31:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.7001 = 9.1013 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:31:59 <MJR_>	its like watching a distant galaxy's war...its already been done
Apr 10 15:32:07 <Bugpowda>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 15:32:08 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1887.856924 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.7832441382 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
Apr 10 15:32:09 <Bugpowda>	;;bids 0
Apr 10 15:32:10 <gribble>	There are currently 42736435 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6196428.4601 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.2196 seconds
Apr 10 15:32:10 <MJR_>	185 bitfloor
Apr 10 15:32:19 <Bugpowda>	lol
Apr 10 15:32:23 <punkman>	I gotta start calling in favours, get some cash on an exchange, start buying during dips
Apr 10 15:32:28 <Bugpowda>	6.2M
Apr 10 15:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.309 = 3.708 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:33:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.003289 = 5.2624 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 15:34:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:34:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 130.00000, Best ask: 134.20757, Bid-ask spread: 4.20757, Last trade: 134.20757, 24 hour volume: 115349.53392103, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 214.70630
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Apr 10 15:34:40 <lololo>	godzilla fucked the gox hamster
Apr 10 15:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	maybe someone in the crows that's not mentally retarded manages to notice what service mtgox is delivering for 1mn a month.
Apr 10 15:34:53 <pgp>	6.2MM ...  that's a big haircut
Apr 10 15:35:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7001 = 1.4002 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:36:05 <deadweasel>	$161 spread for the day.
Apr 10 15:36:09 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
Apr 10 15:36:25 <kakobrekla>	the distant galaxy is getting closer
Apr 10 15:36:37 <Bugpowda>	goxlag down to 6 minutes!
Apr 10 15:36:43 <pgp>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:36:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 106.10000, Best ask: 149.00000, Bid-ask spread: 42.90000, Last trade: 106.10000, 24 hour volume: 115349.53392103, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 214.70630
Apr 10 15:36:57 <jborkl_>	coinlab caught up
Apr 10 15:36:57 <pgp>	$43 spread
Apr 10 15:37:02 <MJR_>	nice
Apr 10 15:37:08 <MJR_>	hopefully we will have some real information soon
Apr 10 15:37:32 <jborkl_>	111
Apr 10 15:37:37 <jborkl_>	lowest 106
Apr 10 15:38:16 <pgp>	the problem with lag and subsequent huge spreads is that regulators will now have something tangible to point to vis-a-vis protecting the consumers...
Apr 10 15:38:38 <pgp>	fucks it up for all of us
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Apr 10 15:38:59 <deadweasel>	this is what we signed up for.
Apr 10 15:39:25 <pgp>	indeed
Apr 10 15:39:51 <OgNasty>	hard to complain about triple digit BTCs...
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Apr 10 15:40:05 <pgp>	let's hope it stays that way
Apr 10 15:40:08 <thestringpulled>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:40:10 <thestringpulled>	;;asks 0
Apr 10 15:40:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 158.60300, Best ask: 164.78000, Bid-ask spread: 6.17700, Last trade: 158.60300, 24 hour volume: 116200.68527493, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 213.66190
Apr 10 15:40:12 <thestringpulled>	;;bids 0
Apr 10 15:40:13 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 0.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.6251 seconds
Apr 10 15:40:14 <gribble>	There are currently 42879652 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6016501.54882 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.7408 seconds
Apr 10 15:40:21 <thestringpulled>	wtf is going on today
Apr 10 15:40:29 <MJR_>	buying opportunity of the year?
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Apr 10 15:40:34 <deadweasel>	^
Apr 10 15:40:40 <lololo>	yep
Apr 10 15:40:55 <pgp>	mtgox replaced their graph - what a joke
Apr 10 15:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.089 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:41:11 <bitesak>	;;asks 100
Apr 10 15:41:14 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.5674 seconds
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Apr 10 15:42:01 <pgp>	6MM bid...  was 6.2MM  10 min ago...
Apr 10 15:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:42:07 <pgp>	not a good sign
Apr 10 15:42:31 <pgp>	methinks more short-term downside...
Apr 10 15:42:51 <OgNasty>	I'm trying to buy...  At 106.  :)
Apr 10 15:43:01 <ThickAsThieves>	sell button on Gox isnt even functioning right now, are we just watching all the past orders of the day thru goxlag
Apr 10 15:43:02 <bitesak>	lets have a lag close to 0 and then assess
Apr 10 15:43:19 <thestringpulled_>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 10 15:43:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069098 / 0.00070945 / 0.000715 (160086 shares, 113.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069029 / 0.00071514 (2045008 shares, 1,411.66 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068765 / 0.00077505 (9412586 shares, 6,472.64 BTC)
Apr 10 15:43:28 <thestringpulled_>	MWASHAHAHAHAHA
Apr 10 15:44:07 <pgp>	;;asks 999999999
Apr 10 15:44:09 <gribble>	There are currently 51776.79 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 2899007691.85 USD in total. | Data vintage: 50.1436 seconds
Apr 10 15:44:16 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 15:44:17 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 645.385533 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.29334538204 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 10 15:44:27 <MJR_>	10 minutes, back to normal?
Apr 10 15:44:27 <OgNasty>	sell button works fine on my pc... interestingly it doesn't work on my mac...
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Apr 10 15:44:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids o
Apr 10 15:44:44 <gribble>	Error: 'o' is not a valid floating point number.
Apr 10 15:44:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 10 15:44:49 <gribble>	There are currently 42901822 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6983685.78301 USD in total. | Data vintage: 91.2011 seconds
Apr 10 15:44:54 <pgp>	;;asks 300
Apr 10 15:44:54 <gribble>	There are currently 34271.076 bitcoins offered at or under 300.0 USD, worth 7910977.33468 USD in total. | Data vintage: 96.3186 seconds
Apr 10 15:45:45 <pgp>	orders coming back onto book - looks like...
Apr 10 15:45:51 <bgupta>	so quesiton for old time traders.. other than the big selloff in 11 (and the "fork flashcrash") have we ever seen such a dramatic downward price move? Basically 50% as fast as gox could handle it
Apr 10 15:46:33 <bitesak>	at the time of bitcoinica we did
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Apr 10 15:46:42 <mod6>	and after GLBSE
Apr 10 15:46:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.00325 = 0.1138 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 15:46:52 <bgupta>	heh..
Apr 10 15:46:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 91 @ 0.003205 = 0.2917 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:47:08 <KRS-1>	sell button wasnt working for me on gox
Apr 10 15:47:36 <Bugpowda>	I just got filled at 133.335
Apr 10 15:47:36 <KRS-1>	its okay with me though im good
Apr 10 15:47:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.691 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:47:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:47:41 <lololo>	that was the killing blow for mtgox
Apr 10 15:47:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.6269 = 1.8807 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 15:47:56 <lololo>	who in the right mind will ever trade there again?
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Apr 10 15:48:01 <thestring>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.3095 = 1.857 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:48:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 124.00000, Best ask: 130.00000, Bid-ask spread: 6.00000, Last trade: 130.00000, 24 hour volume: 118103.42036012, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 211.81434
Apr 10 15:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.31 = 2.48 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.31 = 0.93 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:48:07 <thestring>	there we go
Apr 10 15:48:13 <thestring>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 15:48:14 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 728.692788 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.4602921883 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 10 15:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:49:51 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta the pirate stuff in august was similar.
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Apr 10 15:50:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.315 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:50:04 <mircea_popescu>	but no, glbse didn't even register
Apr 10 15:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	and bitcoinica was a 20% selloff iirc
Apr 10 15:50:25 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:50:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.00000, Best ask: 129.00000, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 118103.42036012, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 211.81434
Apr 10 15:50:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 15:50:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 724.106535 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.45110138864 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 10 15:50:37 <jborkl_>	pirate weekend was 11.5 to 7
Apr 10 15:50:47 <mod6>	(12:50) < mircea_popescu> but no, glbse didn't even register
Apr 10 15:50:49 <jborkl_>	something like that
Apr 10 15:50:56 <mod6>	oops maybe that was pirate stuff i was remembering...
Apr 10 15:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	actually let me dig it up
Apr 10 15:51:16 <mod6>	haha, can't look at bitcoincharts either for the history. thats ded too.
Apr 10 15:51:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-rezultate-august-2012/
Apr 10 15:51:45 <jcpham>	crazy language
Apr 10 15:51:50 <bgupta>	gotcha… wishing it would come back to 50
Apr 10 15:51:50 <jcpham>	hurts my brain
Apr 10 15:51:55 <mircea_popescu>	 ~9.5 to ~15.5 and back to ~10.5
Apr 10 15:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	so +60% then and -30%
Apr 10 15:52:17 <jcpham>	can't even pronounce cumparari with out laughing
Apr 10 15:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	this was more like +150% and back down 50%
Apr 10 15:52:24 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Apr 10 15:52:26 <bgupta>	got it
Apr 10 15:53:03 <bgupta>	should be interesting to graph the bottoms of all 30%+ drops..
Apr 10 15:53:07 <thestring>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:53:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.65510, Best ask: 139.00000, Bid-ask spread: 7.34490, Last trade: 131.00000, 24 hour volume: 117610.35167010, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 210.73940
Apr 10 15:53:18 <bgupta>	I have to run. be back later.
Apr 10 15:53:21 <thestring>	gribble seems to still be able to connect to gox
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Apr 10 15:54:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen jurov
Apr 10 15:54:03 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 20 hours, 34 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <jurov> mircea_popescu, withdrawals pls
Apr 10 15:54:29 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 15:54:33 <thestring>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:54:44 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 774.288923 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.55166633232 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 10 15:55:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.00000, Best ask: 134.00000, Bid-ask spread: 7.00000, Last trade: 134.00000, 24 hour volume: 117610.35167010, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 210.73940
Apr 10 15:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.31 = 3.41 BTC [-]
Apr 10 15:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.09 = 3.27 BTC [+]
Apr 10 15:56:20 *	imsaguy is selling coins at $245/btc
Apr 10 15:57:04 <thestring>	;;ticker
Apr 10 15:57:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.21951, Best ask: 143.06527, Bid-ask spread: 15.84576, Last trade: 149.99999, 24 hour volume: 118890.16565084, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 209.86283
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Apr 10 15:58:22 <Bugpowda>	poor bitcoinity... so behind.
Apr 10 15:58:23 <Bugpowda>	connected users: 13134
Apr 10 15:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.315 = 0.945 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 16:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3331 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 16:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3331 BTC [+]
Apr 10 16:03:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 16:03:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.003289 = 0.3289 BTC [+]
Apr 10 16:03:12 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 815.718806 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.63469135398 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 10 16:03:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 10 16:03:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.13000, Best ask: 133.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last trade: 133.00000, 24 hour volume: 122718.37665676, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 207.67786
Apr 10 16:03:35 <ThickAsThieves>	why all the sdice buys?
Apr 10 16:03:39 <ThickAsThieves>	did i miss some news?
Apr 10 16:03:59 <Bugpowda>	BTC price dropped
Apr 10 16:04:32 <Bugpowda>	probably bullish for S.DICE BTC valuation
Apr 10 16:05:01 <pigeons>	nah there hasnt been any correlation shown in btc/usd price and s.dice profits/bets
Apr 10 16:05:03 <Bugpowda>	Looks like the bottom is in.
Apr 10 16:05:14 <Bugpowda>	pigeons: I'm not saying there has been.
Apr 10 16:05:14 <pigeons>	but s.dice should have a good yield this month
Apr 10 16:05:14 <ThickAsThieves>	pigeons i disagree
Apr 10 16:05:21 <Bugpowda>	but that is why people just bought some
Apr 10 16:05:28 <pigeons>	ThickAsThieves: to disagree just show it to me
Apr 10 16:06:19 <ThickAsThieves>	you think we'll see another 15k profit month at $250 BTC/USD anytime soon?
Apr 10 16:06:36 <Bugpowda>	I kinda like goxlag.  If you know what you are doing, you can profit from it I think.
Apr 10 16:06:46 <pigeons>	i asked for a correlation seen in the past, not "do you think we'll see x anytime soon"
Apr 10 16:07:26 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 10 16:07:29 <KRS-1>	i think i gotta go have a drink..
Apr 10 16:07:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.54194, Best ask: 140.00000, Bid-ask spread: 10.45806, Last trade: 129.00000, 24 hour volume: 123531.05189806, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 207.12602
Apr 10 16:07:36 <ThickAsThieves>	i hear you pigeons
Apr 10 16:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... back to 130 ?
Apr 10 16:07:41 <ThickAsThieves>	lemme see what i can dig up
Apr 10 16:07:42 <KRS-1>	this would be a scotch day
Apr 10 16:07:44 <Bugpowda>	yup
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Apr 10 16:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	ready to go again ?
Apr 10 16:08:04 <Bugpowda>	Got filled at 133.335, but my 121.25 is languishing on the book
Apr 10 16:08:08 <Doffx>	Will thos 260 options drop in price I wonder
Apr 10 16:08:25 <Bugpowda>	surpised that it didn't snap back harder yet.
Apr 10 16:08:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 3 @ 0.12381 = 0.3714 BTC [+]
Apr 10 16:09:06 <Doffx>	Im not, Mtgox is the issue.
Apr 10 16:09:11 <Bugpowda>	oh sweet.  Filled at 121
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Apr 10 16:09:22 <Doffx>	You would think they would have fixed that by now.
Apr 10 16:09:29 <OgNasty>	I'm getting buys filled at 123 and sells filled at 145 simulatneously...
Apr 10 16:09:49 <OgNasty>	Gotta love gox lag.
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Apr 10 16:10:24 <rikur>	damn, might be too late to get money in
Apr 10 16:10:39 <zomgwtfninjabbq>	err seems like the right time
Apr 10 16:11:38 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 10 16:11:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.94146, Best ask: 143.85158, Bid-ask spread: 3.91012, Last trade: 148.00000, 24 hour volume: 125333.65136459, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 205.77171
Apr 10 16:12:03 <bitesak>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 16:12:04 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 636.652305 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.27584409091 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 10 16:13:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.12381 BTC [+]
Apr 10 16:13:26 <mircea_popescu>	i'm seeing like 105 ?
Apr 10 16:13:27 <Bugpowda>	up up and away...  Back to 200.
Apr 10 16:13:34 <Doffx>	What is the fastest way to get money in anyhow
Apr 10 16:13:35 <Bugpowda>	mircea_popescu: bitcoinity is way behind
Apr 10 16:13:46 <Doffx>	I have never found a good way other than dealing with OTC
Apr 10 16:13:47 <Bugpowda>	moddy is on it
Apr 10 16:13:57 <mircea_popescu>	how do you know ?
Apr 10 16:14:00 <mod6>	btc-e was at 170 a minute ago...
Apr 10 16:14:04 <mod6>	USD
Apr 10 16:14:04 <Bugpowda>	I am watching everything at once
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Apr 10 16:14:17 <Bugpowda>	IRC is best, then moody
Apr 10 16:14:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://clarkmoody.com/ btw
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Apr 10 16:14:35 <Bugpowda>	'm a 25 year old guy from College Station, Texas. I am married to the most wonderful woman in the world, and I love Jesus.
Apr 10 16:14:35 <mircea_popescu>	"I'm a 25 year old guy from College Station, Texas. I am married to the most wonderful woman in the world, and I love Jesus. I'm a huge fan of creative brainstorming sessions, unmanned aerial vehicles, geeky microcontroller electronics projects, and games of disc golf with friends."
Apr 10 16:14:51 <kakobrekla>	old.
Apr 10 16:15:01 <Bugpowda>	Yeah, he nolonger loves jesus
Apr 10 16:15:10 <kakobrekla>	mebbe dat too
Apr 10 16:15:12 <Bugpowda>	pledge his faith to satoshi
Apr 10 16:15:23 <kakobrekla>	cyber christ.
Apr 10 16:15:29 <mod6>	lol
Apr 10 16:15:31 <kakobrekla>	or what was it?
Apr 10 16:15:31 <pizzaman1337>	In Satoshi We Trust
Apr 10 16:15:35 <Scrat>	in love with jesus
Apr 10 16:15:55 <pigeons>	which is worse, disc golf or jesus?
Apr 10 16:16:00 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 10 16:16:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.40075, Best ask: 149.00000, Bid-ask spread: 8.59925, Last trade: 140.40075, 24 hour volume: 127462.62102141, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 204.43302
Apr 10 16:16:04 <mod6>	pigeons: good question
Apr 10 16:16:05 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 16:16:06 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 596.95149 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.19628410216 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 10 16:16:12 <kakobrekla>	back to 10min eh
Apr 10 16:16:19 <Bugpowda>	jesus
Apr 10 16:16:30 <Bugpowda>	whats wrong with disc golf?
Apr 10 16:16:39 <pigeons>	its more boring than real gold
Apr 10 16:16:41 <pigeons>	*golf
Apr 10 16:16:42 <Bugpowda>	it's like ultimate frisbee if you aren't good at running
Apr 10 16:17:00 <pigeons>	and less drinking
Apr 10 16:17:16 <mod6>	Bugpowda: aint no body got time for that
Apr 10 16:17:26 <Bugpowda>	maybbe its not over yet...
Apr 10 16:17:28 <Bugpowda>	hey now....
Apr 10 16:18:10 <mod6>	haha.
Apr 10 16:18:10 <Bugpowda>	meh... got my bids... ttyl. time to catch up on work
Apr 10 16:19:40 <mod6>	:(
Apr 10 16:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 29 @ 0.28 = 8.12 BTC [-]
Apr 10 16:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.09 = 2.18 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 16:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.28 = 2.8 BTC [-]
Apr 10 16:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 10 16:26:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 149.00000, Best ask: 149.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99000, Last trade: 149.00000, 24 hour volume: 131603.19396295, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 201.95839
Apr 10 16:26:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 26 @ 0.2933 = 7.6258 BTC [+]
Apr 10 16:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.09 = 4.36 BTC [+]
Apr 10 16:28:43 <mod6>	still over 500s of lag... jeeze
Apr 10 16:28:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.12381 BTC [+]
Apr 10 16:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 42 @ 0.31 = 13.02 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 16:30:31 <Bowjob_>	yawn
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Apr 10 16:34:25 <Bowjob>	I feel for the fucker who bought at 266, and sold at 105
Apr 10 16:34:32 <Bowjob>	could be the same guy
Apr 10 16:34:38 <lololo>	lol
Apr 10 16:34:48 <lololo>	the old buy high sell low
Apr 10 16:35:27 <kakobrekla>	i cant belive i snatched a few 78 on stamp today
Apr 10 16:35:33 <mod6>	nice
Apr 10 16:35:43 <lololo>	china will rescue us ;)
Apr 10 16:35:58 <pgp>	;;ticker
Apr 10 16:36:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.00000, Best ask: 160.00000, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 160.00000, 24 hour volume: 135121.67227778, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 200.43051
Apr 10 16:36:03 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 16:36:03 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 438.092694 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.877932853646 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 10 16:36:05 <Bowjob>	im to desensitized to this
Apr 10 16:36:20 <Bowjob>	i sold some, so i cant lose
Apr 10 16:36:20 <Bowjob>	lol
Apr 10 16:36:34 <mod6>	oh i tought you mean the goxlag. lol
Apr 10 16:36:41 <mod6>	that's becoming way too common
Apr 10 16:36:55 <Bowjob>	50% wednesday todaaaaaaaay
Apr 10 16:36:57 <Bowjob>	actually
Apr 10 16:37:05 <Bowjob>	this could be a present for my cakeday
Apr 10 16:37:15 <lololo>	bowjob fear seller ^^
Apr 10 16:37:15 <Namworld>	it's a curse...
Apr 10 16:37:21 <Namworld>	we're in the bulltrap now
Apr 10 16:37:27 <Bowjob>	It all makes sense. i had my shirt backwards
Apr 10 16:38:34 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 10 16:38:39 <MJR_>	this was orchestrated
Apr 10 16:38:49 <MJR_>	if anything, i think they found their plan a success
Apr 10 16:38:52 <MJR_>	so expect more
Apr 10 16:38:59 <MJR_>	and expect overall MORE buying
Apr 10 16:39:05 <MJR_>	just my opinion
Apr 10 16:39:15 <MJR_>	but the whole fun of bitcoin is how easy it is to manipulate the market
Apr 10 16:39:43 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 16:39:44 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 518.343624 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.03875481883 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
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Apr 10 16:40:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.1238 BTC [-]
Apr 10 16:41:37 <pgp>	;;bids 0
Apr 10 16:41:39 <gribble>	There are currently 42635939 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11082243.7308 USD in total. | Data vintage: 9.3239 seconds
Apr 10 16:41:44 <Enky>	 ;;goxlag
Apr 10 16:41:48 <Enky>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 16:41:49 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 503.166845 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.00834072364 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 10 16:41:57 <pgp>	;;asks 300
Apr 10 16:41:57 <gribble>	There are currently 35956.287 bitcoins offered at or under 300.0 USD, worth 8469650.61604 USD in total. | Data vintage: 28.7736 seconds
Apr 10 16:45:37 <Bowjob>	maybe ian will turn legit?
Apr 10 16:46:01 <Bowjob>	cavirtex back to 200
Apr 10 16:46:48 <Bowjob>	rikur where are you brah
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Apr 10 16:48:22 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --last
Apr 10 16:48:23 <gribble>	185.00000
Apr 10 16:48:28 <kakobrekla>	that works
Apr 10 16:48:29 <TomServo>	bitcoinforecast reports -111 short term, 407 long term.  nbd.
Apr 10 16:49:57 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
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Apr 10 16:50:01 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 534.079881 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.07029010167 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 10 16:50:08 <Bowjob>	its the goxlag thats hurting it
Apr 10 16:50:09 <rikur>	Bowjob: yeah I missed the dip
Apr 10 16:50:54 <MJR_>	hopefully this forces people off of gox
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Apr 10 16:51:25 <Bowjob>	i was asleep
Apr 10 16:52:04 <Bugpowda>	I should have bought moar
Apr 10 16:52:40 <Bugpowda>	6:52] <+amphipod> Apr10 18:39:01 bitstamp  x65   384.5677 @    89.57359346 USD!!!
Apr 10 16:52:48 <Bowjob>	seems that gox is at175
Apr 10 16:52:53 <Bowjob>	according to bitcoinstore
Apr 10 16:53:14 <kakobrekla>	yeah thsose 80$ btc were tasty
Apr 10 16:53:27 <jborkl_>	asshole
Apr 10 16:53:34 <jborkl_>	just jealous
Apr 10 16:53:45 <jborkl_>	:)
Apr 10 16:53:49 <MJR_>	kakobrekla: you really got $80?
Apr 10 16:53:52 <MJR_>	NICE
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Apr 10 16:53:57 <kakobrekla>	i bought at 200 and 150 too on the way down if it makes you feel any better
Apr 10 16:54:06 <DiabloD3>	!ticker
Apr 10 16:54:06 <kakobrekla>	ya
Apr 10 16:54:06 <assbot>	Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
Apr 10 16:54:13 <rikur>	damn
Apr 10 16:54:13 <DiabloD3>	;;ticker
Apr 10 16:54:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 179.00000, Best ask: 189.00000, Bid-ask spread: 10.00000, Last trade: 179.00000, 24 hour volume: 141513.64558635, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 198.84086
Apr 10 16:54:23 <rikur>	dump and pump is dangerous, so I'm sort of glad I missed it..
Apr 10 16:54:36 <wao>	;;lag
Apr 10 16:54:38 <gribble>	Error: "lag" is not a valid command.
Apr 10 16:54:40 <kakobrekla>	you win some you lose some
Apr 10 16:54:40 <wao>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 16:54:41 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 581.765251 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.16585104924 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 10 16:54:46 <rikur>	oh well, it should be back to 220 today
Apr 10 16:55:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i WANT to like the price recovering so quickly, but I worry that it puts us at the same exact exposure we were at this morning
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Apr 10 16:55:07 <Bowjob>	Rikur, lets buy $100 hotdogs for
Apr 10 16:55:09 <Bowjob>	.4 BTC?
Apr 10 16:55:10 <Bowjob>	:D
Apr 10 16:55:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i huge price jump is asking for a double dip
Apr 10 16:55:17 <ThickAsThieves>	no amtter when it happens
Apr 10 16:55:22 <mod6>	^^^
Apr 10 16:55:34 <wao>	^^
Apr 10 16:55:35 <wao>	agree
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Apr 10 16:55:44 <TomServo>	So my open bid @ 64 might have a chance?! haha
Apr 10 16:55:45 <rikur>	Bowjob: hehe, I'll wait a day or two to get hot dogs for -50% :p
Apr 10 16:56:01 <rikur>	TomServo: nope
Apr 10 16:56:25 <ThickAsThieves>	ugh...
Apr 10 16:56:31 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoin mania is relentless
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Apr 10 16:59:04 <ThickAsThieves>	pigeons you still there
Apr 10 16:59:25 <ThickAsThieves>	i have proof ready that SDICE betting is affected by USD/BTC rate
Apr 10 16:59:33 <kakobrekla>	where is that goxlag meme pic
Apr 10 16:59:35 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
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Apr 10 17:00:35 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 17:00:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 184.46829, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 5.53171, Last trade: 180.44100, 24 hour volume: 143120.57221572, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 198.68487
Apr 10 17:00:46 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 17:00:47 <gribble>	203.75
Apr 10 17:00:58 <thestringpuller>	why...oh
Apr 10 17:00:59 <thestringpuller>	OH
Apr 10 17:01:03 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Apr 10 17:01:05 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069098 / 0.00070945 / 0.000715 (160086 shares, 113.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069029 / 0.00071514 (2045008 shares, 1,411.66 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068765 / 0.00077505 (9412586 shares, 6,472.64 BTC)
Apr 10 17:01:09 <thestringpuller>	ah ha
Apr 10 17:01:34 <ThickAsThieves>	The following is the amount of "BTC In" for SatoshiDice.com for the previous four 4-week periods:
Apr 10 17:01:37 <ThickAsThieves>	Jan 16th	1992532
Apr 10 17:01:37 <ThickAsThieves>	Feb 13th	1174083
Apr 10 17:01:37 <ThickAsThieves>	Mar 13th	240936
Apr 10 17:01:37 <ThickAsThieves>	Apr 9th	121371
Apr 10 17:01:47 <ThickAsThieves>	see a trend?
Apr 10 17:01:59 <bitesak>	no
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Apr 10 17:02:09 <ThickAsThieves>	Jan 16th    1992532
Apr 10 17:02:09 <ThickAsThieves>	Feb 13th    1174083
Apr 10 17:02:09 <ThickAsThieves>	Mar 13th    240936
Apr 10 17:02:09 <ThickAsThieves>	Apr 9th     121371
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Apr 10 17:02:28 <pigeons>	better than when you were arguing nekkid
Apr 10 17:02:59 <deadweasel>	price goes up, betting goes down.
Apr 10 17:03:00 <mircea_popescu>	half quarter half
Apr 10 17:03:02 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 250
Apr 10 17:03:02 <gribble>	There are currently 14360.402 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 3143389.44241 USD in total. | Data vintage: 93.6624 seconds
Apr 10 17:03:04 <deadweasel>	SDICE will rise!
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Apr 10 17:03:12 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 130
Apr 10 17:03:13 <gribble>	There are currently 16797.458 bitcoins demanded at or over 130.0 USD, worth 2542314.64368 USD in total. | Data vintage: 103.5214 seconds
Apr 10 17:04:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu ah the BCB chairman arrives
Apr 10 17:04:42 <ThickAsThieves>	feel free to verify, i was doing like 5 things at once (as usual) when i did the math
Apr 10 17:04:54 <bitesak>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 17:04:55 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 421.129856 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.843939516219 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 10 17:05:02 <thestringpuller>	MPOE will rise
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Apr 10 17:05:23 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 17:05:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 190.00000, Best ask: 198.90000, Bid-ask spread: 8.90000, Last trade: 198.90000, 24 hour volume: 144954.06230218, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 198.50794
Apr 10 17:05:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.1238 BTC [-]
Apr 10 17:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.25500001 BTC [-]
Apr 10 17:06:53 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h klim
Apr 10 17:06:55 <assbot>	Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
Apr 10 17:07:02 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h kim
Apr 10 17:07:03 <assbot>	It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money.
Apr 10 17:07:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h him
Apr 10 17:07:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 0.75000001 / 1.10759322 / 1.20000000 (59 shares, 65.34800001 BTC), 7D: 0.75000001 / 1.52179593 / 1.93000000 (221 shares, 336.31690011 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.77008474 / 2.08000000 (806 shares, 1426.68829841 BTC)
Apr 10 17:07:33 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h vtx
Apr 10 17:07:35 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.18000000 / 0.25133697 / 0.30000000 (515 shares, 129.43853857 BTC), 7D: 0.18000000 / 0.30180003 / 0.47000000 (1667 shares, 503.10064405 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.41931029 / 0.79900000 (14627 shares, 6133.25156457 BTC)
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Apr 10 17:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	whoa him went to .75 ?!
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Apr 10 17:09:45 <ThickAsThieves>	is that the one that buys BFLs?
Apr 10 17:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	iirc.
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Apr 10 17:10:17 <thestringpuller>	yea i warned them too
Apr 10 17:10:47 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 17:10:47 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 40.02897 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0802176076933 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
Apr 10 17:11:05 <thestringpuller>	I wrote them an email explaining with the non-linear increase in difficulty and them not having a contingency plan for BFL labs non-delivery, there would be a run on the stock as dividends don't increase over time.
Apr 10 17:11:17 <thestringpuller>	Looks like people pulled out and went to ASICMINER :\
Apr 10 17:11:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.003205 BTC [-]
Apr 10 17:11:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 68 @ 0.003205 = 0.2179 BTC [-]
Apr 10 17:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	" ‏@stacyherbert 6m
Apr 10 17:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	My friend tried buying 100 bitcoin tonight at $220, then at $200, then at $175. Mt.Gox would ONLY fill it at $140."
Apr 10 17:11:49 <mircea_popescu>	so much win
Apr 10 17:12:02 <Bowjob>	lol\
Apr 10 17:12:11 <thestringpuller>	trading with the past?
Apr 10 17:12:14 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 17:12:15 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 94.566716 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.189510640042 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 10 17:12:20 <Bowjob>	it got worse
Apr 10 17:12:22 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 10 17:12:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 195.12195, Best ask: 198.40000, Bid-ask spread: 3.27805, Last trade: 198.40000, 24 hour volume: 146479.39685151, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 198.18480
Apr 10 17:12:35 <ThickAsThieves>	amazing
Apr 10 17:12:45 <thestringpuller>	was it the goxlag that caused it? or is shit going to get worse?
Apr 10 17:13:00 <ThickAsThieves>	imo another big dip to take profit is totally possible
Apr 10 17:13:12 <novusordo>	imo anything is possible
Apr 10 17:13:21 <ThickAsThieves>	imo you are correct
Apr 10 17:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 10 17:13:36 <kakobrekla>	over 200
Apr 10 17:13:46 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --last
Apr 10 17:13:48 <gribble>	198.97000
Apr 10 17:13:56 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 10 17:13:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 199.98000, Best ask: 203.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.02000, Last trade: 203.00000, 24 hour volume: 146479.39685151, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 198.18480
Apr 10 17:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.25 = 1 BTC [-]
Apr 10 17:14:40 <pgp>	I think another opportunity to sell...
Apr 10 17:14:46 <pizzaman1337>	seriously back to $200 already? wow
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Apr 10 17:14:49 <Bugpowda>	yeah for sure
Apr 10 17:14:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00304 BTC [+]
Apr 10 17:14:54 <Bugpowda>	time to dump
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Apr 10 17:14:58 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Apr 10 17:14:59 <Bugpowda>	probably will be too slpw
Apr 10 17:15:02 <Bugpowda>	too slow
Apr 10 17:15:02 <Bowjob>	lets dump fiat
Apr 10 17:15:09 <Bugpowda>	due to gox lag
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Apr 10 17:15:36 <Bugpowda>	it usually oscillates 2-3 cycles of decreasing amplitude after big moves
Apr 10 17:16:54 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 10 17:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.50099848 / 224.19815089 / 226.07089967 (13815 shares, 2,358.38 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 10 17:17:52 *	Bitbuot is now known as TeIoo\
Apr 10 17:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.2385 = 2.385 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 17:18:44 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 17:18:47 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 171.222393 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.343127758471 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
Apr 10 17:18:53 <Bowjob>	even goxlag is lagging
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Apr 10 17:19:29 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Apr 10 17:19:30 <kakobrekla>	hehe
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Apr 10 17:20:13 <pizzaman1337>	where are our options...
Apr 10 17:20:16 *	ian_ is now known as bitbuyer
Apr 10 17:20:22 <pizzaman1337>	mpexbot needs a better data source
Apr 10 17:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	i agree.
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Apr 10 17:21:25 <pgp>	any link to latest communications from BFL regarding delivery - I'm looking to ammuse myself...
Apr 10 17:21:36 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165500.msg1796232#msg1796232
Apr 10 17:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	amuse away
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Apr 10 17:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171036.msg1795415#msg1795415
Apr 10 17:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	also pretty good
Apr 10 17:24:35 <Namworld>	man... these are some good wads of cash I made
Apr 10 17:24:47 <ThickAsThieves>	mp would it be possible for you to develop relationships directly with your approved exchanged to become a "real" price index?
Apr 10 17:24:51 <ThickAsThieves>	get the info directly
Apr 10 17:25:14 <ThickAsThieves>	exchanges*
Apr 10 17:25:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: has no approved exchanges
Apr 10 17:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	it would be possible yes but not desirable.
Apr 10 17:25:54 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 17:25:55 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 295.600707 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.592380507118 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 10 17:26:09 <ThickAsThieves>	because you dont want the work/responsibility?
Apr 10 17:26:54 *	jborkl_ is now known as jborkl
Apr 10 17:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	because i don't want to be the judge executioner and everything else.
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Apr 10 17:28:11 <ThickAsThieves>	makes sense
Apr 10 17:28:33 <Chilca_>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 17:28:34 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 314.06204 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.629376811746 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 10 17:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	don't get me wrong, i too would love to be in a better reality.
Apr 10 17:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	but, this is the on;y one we got.
Apr 10 17:29:19 <ThickAsThieves>	any candidates you think could fill the role if they tried?
Apr 10 17:29:33 <ThickAsThieves>	I nominate Ukto
Apr 10 17:29:38 <mircea_popescu>	well how would i know.
Apr 10 17:29:52 <mircea_popescu>	easier to tell once the thing's done and working
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Apr 10 17:30:37 <Ukto>	I humbly decline.
Apr 10 17:30:46 <Ukto>	I do not like playing Judge.
Apr 10 17:30:50 *	jborkl is now known as jborkl_
Apr 10 17:30:51 <Ukto>	Executioner sure. :P
Apr 10 17:30:57 <Ukto>	But thats a different story. ;)
Apr 10 17:31:19 <ThickAsThieves>	booo
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Apr 10 17:32:08 *	Ukto puts the judge wig on ThickAsThieves and hands him a Scythe
Apr 10 17:32:20 <jborkl_>	btc e 175
Apr 10 17:32:26 <ThickAsThieves>	if i had the ability i would
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Apr 10 17:32:32 <ThickAsThieves>	way out of my area
Apr 10 17:33:11 <ThickAsThieves>	who runs bitcoinity?
Apr 10 17:33:22 <thestringpuller>	comboy
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Apr 10 17:33:30 <jborkl_>	lol, watching trollbox on btce
Apr 10 17:33:59 <Bugpowda>	I love that Usagi wants to take over the BAKEWELL security
Apr 10 17:34:02 <Ukto>	jborkl_: wait, btce is up? :P
Apr 10 17:34:21 <kakobrekla>	uhh?
Apr 10 17:34:36 <jborkl_>	it is for me
Apr 10 17:34:46 <jborkl_>	it only went down for a minute
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Apr 10 17:36:03 <pgp>	mp: i love the "the movie-and-a-burger asset" comment...
Apr 10 17:36:26 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI4fVgVVpiw
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Apr 10 17:36:37 <kakobrekla>	a little late with the vid.
Apr 10 17:36:42 <kakobrekla>	but yea
Apr 10 17:37:14 *	TeIoo\ is now known as Yhafo0
Apr 10 17:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	pgp no but srsly. da people are done complaining about mpex fee
Apr 10 17:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	now it's the 1 btc
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Apr 10 17:39:49 <Enky>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 17:39:50 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 107.761137 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.215952111994 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 10 17:39:55 <Enky>	;;ticker
Apr 10 17:39:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 176.10000, Best ask: 186.90000, Bid-ask spread: 10.80000, Last trade: 186.90000, 24 hour volume: 155464.04726133, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 197.51465
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Apr 10 17:41:31 <Bowjob>	dat spread
Apr 10 17:41:35 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172596.msg1795924#msg1795924
Apr 10 17:41:41 <mircea_popescu>	looky! wolv solved the ddos problem
Apr 10 17:42:52 <Bowjob>	We're taking the night off. We are not accepting new orders tonight (Wednesday Apr 10). Seriously, forget the Bitcoin Charts/Prices. Go for a walk, take a bath, go to the spa. Yes all pending orders will be processed, and Yes we'll be back to normal tomorrow. and no we were NOT hacked.
Apr 10 17:42:58 <Bowjob>	According to canadian bitcoins
Apr 10 17:43:00 <Bowjob>	xD
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Apr 10 17:43:22 <mod6>	wat
Apr 10 17:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	lolwut
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Apr 10 17:45:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 10 17:45:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 176.00000, Best ask: 179.98000, Bid-ask spread: 3.98000, Last trade: 170.02999, 24 hour volume: 157519.54743859, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 197.21062
Apr 10 17:45:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 17:45:14 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 111.797675 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.224041288951 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
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Apr 10 17:45:30 <KRS1>	LOL@WOLV
Apr 10 17:45:30 <ThickAsThieves>	sad that 111s is now respectable
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Apr 10 17:46:20 <KRS1>	yeah...we'll just put UDP traffic from a bunch of hosts into a nice little php/html form and email it back.
Apr 10 17:46:48 <ThickAsThieves>	lucif knows whats up https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.msg1791777#msg1791777
Apr 10 17:47:01 <KRS1>	<[yAK]> i was actually getting 300khash by putting a coat hanger into one of the pci express slots
Apr 10 17:47:22 <TomServo>	lolwut
Apr 10 17:47:25 <KRS1>	litecoins are strange
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Apr 10 17:48:22 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 10 17:48:37 <jborkl_>	$160
Apr 10 17:49:45 <KRS1>	who'd ever think of using a coat hanger..i should stick a fork in one of my bitcoin mining rigs to see if that helps.
Apr 10 17:50:41 <Bowjob>	http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/5165756a6bb3f7ea1c00000d-803-601/bitcoin-billionaire-2.png
Apr 10 17:50:45 <Bowjob>	Wooh
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Apr 10 17:53:18 <cole_albon>	;;ticker
Apr 10 17:53:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 162.00000, Best ask: 162.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 162.01000, 24 hour volume: 160814.65103316, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 196.46287
Apr 10 17:53:53 *	Yhafo0 is now known as ceoiman
Apr 10 17:54:18 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 17:54:23 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 82.196653 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.164721172292 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
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Apr 10 17:55:58 <TomServo>	custom leather products < ahahahah
Apr 10 17:56:01 <TomServo>	that's too great
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Apr 10 18:00:55 <Bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 10 18:00:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 152.68000, Best ask: 153.98000, Bid-ask spread: 1.30000, Last trade: 152.68000, 24 hour volume: 164938.44701010, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 195.33394
Apr 10 18:01:05 <mod6>	yeah headed south
Apr 10 18:01:09 <punkman>	"@DavidClinchNews: We can laugh at Bitcoin but real guys, in real basements, are losing real fake money right now."
Apr 10 18:02:05 *	mod6 fake punches DavidClinchNews in the nose
Apr 10 18:02:07 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 10 18:02:14 <ThickAsThieves>	thats pretty funny
Apr 10 18:02:31 <KRS1>	im gonna google suicide over loss of btc and see what floats up
Apr 10 18:03:07 <KRS1>	it appears you guys have blood on your hands already..
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Apr 10 18:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	lol punkman
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Apr 10 18:06:15 <Bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 18:06:16 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 120.367893 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.241215909866 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
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Apr 10 18:06:31 <joecool>	lol
Apr 10 18:06:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:07:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:07:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12352 @ 0.00068568 = 8.4695 BTC [-]
Apr 10 18:07:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3748 @ 0.00068433 = 2.5649 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 18:09:33 <ThickAsThieves>	the REAL selling session has begin
Apr 10 18:09:37 <ThickAsThieves>	bgun*
Apr 10 18:09:41 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 10 18:10:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.73 = 2.92 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 18:11:13 <KRS1>	wtf@ http://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/04/10/how-the-looming-bitcoin-crash-will-be-exploited-by-globalists-to-outlaw-decentralized-crypto-currencies/
Apr 10 18:12:22 <KRS1>	"The velocity of bitcoins is a huge red alert"
Apr 10 18:12:37 <pgp>	that's what I'm talking about...
Apr 10 18:12:48 <KRS1>	this writing sounds a little f'd up
Apr 10 18:13:05 <KRS1>	doesnt hold water imo
Apr 10 18:13:20 <Bugpowda>	time to buy
Apr 10 18:13:21 <pgp>	same guy is pestering US government for Area 51 docs
Apr 10 18:13:22 <Bugpowda>	132.1
Apr 10 18:13:34 <KRS1>	ty bugpowder
Apr 10 18:13:43 <Bugpowda>	the oscillation will go up from here
Apr 10 18:13:44 <pgp>	i'm telling you, we're back down
Apr 10 18:14:00 <pgp>	i don't think it's done yet
Apr 10 18:14:02 <Bugpowda>	My asks got filled at 198
Apr 10 18:14:09 <Bugpowda>	my bid at 151 was too high
Apr 10 18:14:20 <Bugpowda>	got filled
Apr 10 18:14:30 <pgp>	gotta love second chance selling, though...
Apr 10 18:14:32 <Bugpowda>	now hoping for 131.1
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Apr 10 18:15:10 <Bugpowda>	It does a damped osciallation EVERY TIME.  usually the magnitude is too small to trade due to fees, but this one is SO BIG, the fees dont matter.
Apr 10 18:15:22 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 the nutsos are moving in
Apr 10 18:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowda classic time arbing
Apr 10 18:15:49 <Bugpowda>	filled@ 131.1
Apr 10 18:16:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01249 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:16:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0125 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:16:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.013 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:17:00 <pgp>	bp: I agree with theory, but not that we necessarily go back up after attentuation of occillilations...
Apr 10 18:17:04 <Enky>	;;ticker
Apr 10 18:17:04 <Scrat>	fuck is this, I thought we were back at 200?
Apr 10 18:17:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.44000, Best ask: 130.01111, Bid-ask spread: 0.57111, Last trade: 130.01111, 24 hour volume: 173037.17370943, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 192.39910
Apr 10 18:17:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:17:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0175 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:17:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.017959 = 0.0359 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:17:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.73 = 10.95 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 18:18:06 <ThickAsThieves>	its gonna go below 120
Apr 10 18:18:20 <Bugpowda>	its possible
Apr 10 18:18:30 <Bugpowda>	I have bids down there too
Apr 10 18:18:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 49 @ 0.017999 = 0.882 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:18:51 <Chilca_>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 18:18:54 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 189.333507 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.379422228144 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 10 18:18:59 <Chilca_>	;;ticker
Apr 10 18:19:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1016 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:19:10 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 10 18:19:13 <Chilca_>	;;ticker
Apr 10 18:19:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1017 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:19:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1018 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:19:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1019 = 0.9171 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:19:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.21951, Best ask: 129.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.78049, Last trade: 129.00000, 24 hour volume: 173862.61424907, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 192.07380
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Apr 10 18:20:50 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 100
Apr 10 18:21:07 <gribble>	There are currently 26980.866 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2872092.44501 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.7765 seconds
Apr 10 18:21:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 4 @ 0.018 = 0.072 BTC [-]
Apr 10 18:21:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01996 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:21:37 <Namworld>	yeah... the few bitcoins I sold right at the top of the bubble could almost pay for enough bitcoins to settle of my whole BTC-BOND
Apr 10 18:21:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 20 @ 0.024989 = 0.4998 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:21:48 <Namworld>	but we ain't seen the bottom of this crash
Apr 10 18:22:00 <thestringpuller>	lol now I have to hold for my calls at 194 lolol
Apr 10 18:22:18 <Namworld>	I executed my calls some time ago...
Apr 10 18:22:19 <thestringpuller>	shit could be worse
Apr 10 18:22:28 <deadweasel>	so glad i exercised midday.
Apr 10 18:22:35 <Namworld>	Everything going superfine here
Apr 10 18:22:36 <thestringpuller>	My break even was at 243 24hprc which never came
Apr 10 18:22:59 <deadweasel>	balls, like the 212s, whoops!
Apr 10 18:23:00 <Bugpowda>	GOD DAMN GOX
Apr 10 18:23:04 <thestringpuller>	the price plummeting is going to help mpoe
Apr 10 18:23:08 <Bugpowda>	lagggged
Apr 10 18:23:09 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m mpoe
Apr 10 18:23:11 <assbot>	The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
Apr 10 18:23:11 <deadweasel>	my faith is in the chinese tonight.
Apr 10 18:23:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 10 18:23:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068433 / 0.00070689 / 0.000715 (163886 shares, 115.85 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069025 / 0.00071514 (2061108 shares, 1,422.69 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068765 / 0.00077505 (9428686 shares, 6,483.68 BTC)
Apr 10 18:23:19 <MJR_>	hmmmm
Apr 10 18:23:24 <MJR_>	is anyone selling calls?
Apr 10 18:23:29 <Bugpowda>	FILLED another 100BTC.
Apr 10 18:23:31 <Bugpowda>	13011.
Apr 10 18:23:41 <thestringpuller>	you have 13011 btc?
Apr 10 18:23:45 <thestringpuller>	THE FUCK?
Apr 10 18:23:47 <Bugpowda>	130.11
Apr 10 18:23:59 <benkay_>	;;ticker
Apr 10 18:24:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 130.00000, Best ask: 130.95306, Bid-ask spread: 0.95306, Last trade: 130.95306, 24 hour volume: 174798.60877076, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 191.69492
Apr 10 18:24:06 <deadweasel>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets  lol at oscar the grouch
Apr 10 18:24:14 <benkay_>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 18:24:15 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 219.05474 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.438983246301 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
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Apr 10 18:24:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:25:00 <Bugpowda>	Here comes the bounce bitches.
Apr 10 18:25:13 <Bugpowda>	picked up 400 down here
Apr 10 18:25:21 <MJR_>	NICE
Apr 10 18:26:10 <guruvan>	sweet Bugpowda
Apr 10 18:26:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 18:26:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:26:18 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 194.482047 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.389739844658 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 10 18:26:23 <ThickAsThieves>	careful
Apr 10 18:26:30 <ThickAsThieves>	could still touch 120
Apr 10 18:27:14 *	fehiti is now known as seheo
Apr 10 18:27:21 <joecool>	!GOXLAG
Apr 10 18:28:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:28:15 <KRS1>	recovering
Apr 10 18:28:32 <ThickAsThieves>	lagging
Apr 10 18:28:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 18:28:59 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 174.694313 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.350085447277 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 10 18:29:06 <joecool>	wtf gribble
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Apr 10 18:33:08 <Bugpowda>	;;ticker
Apr 10 18:33:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.11000, Best ask: 160.00534, Bid-ask spread: 8.89534, Last trade: 150.00000, 24 hour volume: 178878.97216569, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 190.19810
Apr 10 18:33:18 <Bugpowda>	BOW DOWN BITCHES
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Apr 10 18:33:31 <Bugpowda>	fucking love bitcoin
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Apr 10 18:33:38 <deadweasel>	haha, awesome Bugpowda
Apr 10 18:33:48 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 10 18:33:49 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 minutes and 6 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> Bugpowda classic time arbing
Apr 10 18:33:53 <deadweasel>	if not for you, I would not have made my calls today.  thank u.
Apr 10 18:33:59 <deadweasel>	or exercised them anyhow
Apr 10 18:34:05 <MJR_>	i do too
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Apr 10 18:34:13 <MJR_>	for trading, volatility is so much fun
Apr 10 18:34:23 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: hey do you still have that picture showing the tweets correlating to bitcoin price saying "proof bitcoin isn't a ponzi"
Apr 10 18:34:42 <Bugpowdeer>	OK now to set the exit points
Apr 10 18:35:06 <KRS1>	volatility is where its at
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Apr 10 18:35:21 <KRS1>	ive been making cash off ltc..up/down daily
Apr 10 18:36:17 <ThickAsThieves>	wow
Apr 10 18:36:20 <ThickAsThieves>	175
Apr 10 18:36:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.102 = 0.51 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:36:32 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 18:36:33 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 119.363752 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.239203622545 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
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Apr 10 18:37:15 <Bugpowdeer>	so for the record,  In at 133, 121, out at 198, in at 151, 132, 130, 130, out at??
Apr 10 18:37:54 <deadweasel>	364
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Apr 10 18:38:11 <Bugpowdeer>	177.89 partial fill
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Apr 10 18:38:48 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 18:38:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 170.00000, Best ask: 171.25187, Bid-ask spread: 1.25187, Last trade: 175.00000, 24 hour volume: 179884.35082268, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.82739
Apr 10 18:38:58 <thestringpuller>	going back down
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Apr 10 18:42:15 <punkman>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172009.msg1790293#msg1790293  "people are paying homage to Satoshi by sending him bitcoins.  Bitcoin is now a religion."
Apr 10 18:43:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.122 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 18:44:44 <mod6>	has anyone used bitfinex?
Apr 10 18:45:29 <thestringpuller>	why isn't the bot quoting?
Apr 10 18:45:31 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 18:45:32 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 162.992865 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.326635876501 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
Apr 10 18:45:41 <joecool>	gribble is trolling
Apr 10 18:45:54 <mod6>	thestringpuller: you mean mpex?
Apr 10 18:45:58 <thestringpuller>	yessir
Apr 10 18:46:01 <mod6>	i have no idea
Apr 10 18:46:04 <thestringpuller>	mod6: is the bot qoting with stat?
Apr 10 18:46:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
Apr 10 18:46:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 14 @ 0.122 = 1.708 BTC [-]
Apr 10 18:46:26 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 18:46:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 160.01000, Best ask: 165.00000, Bid-ask spread: 4.99000, Last trade: 160.01000, 24 hour volume: 181176.23438337, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.55892
Apr 10 18:46:34 <thestringpuller>	this is absurd
Apr 10 18:46:34 <mod6>	i can issue commands to the exachange, buy|sell|stat but the bot has vaporized since the selling began
Apr 10 18:46:43 <mod6>	this happened last time there was a large sell off too :/
Apr 10 18:46:49 <thestringpuller>	this is awesome
Apr 10 18:47:00 <thestringpuller>	I may have lost money on calls (or not the month still has 19 days left)
Apr 10 18:47:08 <KRS1>	can i use a bot to trade on public exchanges
Apr 10 18:47:08 <thestringpuller>	but man this is BEAUTIFUL
Apr 10 18:47:21 <KRS1>	cant stand using the web interfaces
Apr 10 18:48:52 <mod6>	KRS1: me either. so i wrote unix tools for mpex. much happier :)
Apr 10 18:49:01 <KRS1>	i bet
Apr 10 18:49:03 <mod6>	well, at first I used to do all the orders by hand
Apr 10 18:49:07 <KRS1>	its been a while since i played with a perl bot
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Apr 10 18:49:19 <KRS1>	mod6 that must have felt like another life to you haha
Apr 10 18:49:43 <mod6>	heheh.
Apr 10 18:49:57 <KRS1>	i'd love to learn how to trade on the mpex and what not..still learning but still have an investment in btc
Apr 10 18:49:58 <thestringpuller>	the volatility is at an all time high!!!!
Apr 10 18:50:11 <thestringpuller>	Jesus fucking christ
Apr 10 18:50:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C215T] 1 @ 0.2173294 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:50:17 <mod6>	it had certainly been a while since i'd made any perl tools. but i'm glad that i made some now.
Apr 10 18:50:27 <KRS1>	need to figure out how to buy/sell quickly during times like this
Apr 10 18:50:33 <thestringpuller>	the bot is quoting?
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Apr 10 18:50:34 <KRS1>	i love perl
Apr 10 18:50:48 <KRS1>	i think its because i learned pascal back in 90
Apr 10 18:50:55 <thestringpuller>	how the fuck did that order go through?
Apr 10 18:51:20 <mod6>	well, if you have an mpex account, you can certainly use these: https://github.com/modsix/bitotter_perl
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Apr 10 18:51:29 <KRS1>	ah there we go
Apr 10 18:51:31 <mod6>	i <3 perl too, python can suck my ass
Apr 10 18:51:35 <KRS1>	haha yeah
Apr 10 18:51:39 <KRS1>	im with you bro
Apr 10 18:51:43 <mod6>	:]
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Apr 10 18:51:49 <KRS1>	and thank you very much for writing that
Apr 10 18:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
Apr 10 18:52:25 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 18:52:25 <mod6>	no worries. hope it'll help someone out if uses it. let me know if you need help or whatever.
Apr 10 18:52:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 150.50000, Best ask: 157.49999, Bid-ask spread: 6.99999, Last trade: 157.50000, 24 hour volume: 181970.84476366, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.03489
Apr 10 18:52:36 <mod6>	we're in #BitOTTer also
Apr 10 18:52:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
Apr 10 18:53:23 <KRS1>	k thx
Apr 10 18:53:54 <troic_>	;;bids 0
Apr 10 18:53:54 <gribble>	There are currently 42473977 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9588602.81013 USD in total. | Data vintage: 65.6944 seconds
Apr 10 18:55:01 <thestringpuller>	the bulls are waking up
Apr 10 18:56:16 <mod6>	i was asking about bitfinex just cause this guy in -otc mentioned it to me since i called Gox a jackwagon
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Apr 10 18:56:32 <mod6>	i went to the website, but it seems that it's all sort of behind the scenes and what not
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Apr 10 18:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [-]
Apr 10 18:58:37 <mod6>	i guess they have leverage there ... hmm. scary.
Apr 10 18:58:45 <mod6>	sounds like another icbit
Apr 10 18:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [-]
Apr 10 18:59:03 <thestringpuller>	icbit is down right?
Apr 10 18:59:09 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 18:59:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.00000, Best ask: 143.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 142.00000, 24 hour volume: 181056.34284909, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 187.38060
Apr 10 18:59:32 <mod6>	thestringpuller: no clue, i've never used it.
Apr 10 18:59:47 <benkay_>	is *everyone* ddossed right now?
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Apr 10 19:00:19 <thestringpuller>	yessir
Apr 10 19:00:21 <mod6>	seems to be a lot of attacks being reported
Apr 10 19:00:22 <Scrat>	benkay_: yep seems like someone used "*" in their botnet console
Apr 10 19:00:31 <thestringpuller>	XD
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Apr 10 19:01:02 <benkay_>	i want a botnet
Apr 10 19:01:05 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: what happened to the mpoe bot?
Apr 10 19:01:43 <mod6>	just unplugged until a bottom is reached?
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Apr 10 19:02:01 <unbalanced_>	It relies on bitcoincharts for 24hr vwap
Apr 10 19:02:01 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 10 19:02:03 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 10 19:02:09 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 19:02:10 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Apr 10 19:02:17 <unbalanced_>	No feed, no vwap, no bot quotes
Apr 10 19:02:32 <mod6>	ok.
Apr 10 19:03:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 19:03:53 <benkay_>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 19:03:53 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 39.813814 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0797864374783 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
Apr 10 19:04:02 <benkay_>	as depressing as it is
Apr 10 19:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.26 = 0.52 BTC [+]
Apr 10 19:04:07 <benkay_>	that's a reassuring number.
Apr 10 19:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2785 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 19:05:26 <kakobrekla>	:)
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Apr 10 19:08:06 <mod6>	ok well no wonder it goes down every time
Apr 10 19:08:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.275 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Apr 10 19:08:15 <mod6>	everytime that gox shits its pants, so does bitcoincharts
Apr 10 19:08:43 <benkay_>	astonishing that nobody caches this data
Apr 10 19:09:08 <thestringpuller>	it's astonishing that the price is still volatile after the sell off hours ago
Apr 10 19:09:22 <ThickAsThieves>	many didnt have a chance to sell off earlier
Apr 10 19:09:31 <thestringpuller>	a traditional market would have shut off completely
Apr 10 19:09:57 <thestringpuller>	VWAP is still in the 180's
Apr 10 19:09:59 <ThickAsThieves>	i know wall st does that, but do currency exchanges do that?
Apr 10 19:10:45 <benkay_>	what's the rationale behind that?
Apr 10 19:10:52 <benkay_>	holding trading, that is
Apr 10 19:11:05 <benkay_>	move beyond market participants panic state?
Apr 10 19:11:19 <MJR_>	benkay
Apr 10 19:11:54 <bVector>	thestringpuller: icbit has been up throughout the day, no downtime noted
Apr 10 19:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 19:12:41 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h KCIM
Apr 10 19:12:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:KCIM] 1D: 0.99520001 / 1.03657501 / 1.15000000 (16 shares, 16.58520009 BTC), 7D: 0.99520001 / 1.12171273 / 1.20900000 (55 shares, 61.69420011 BTC), 30D: 0.99500000 / 1.13147209 / 1.39999000 (205 shares, 231.95177822 BTC)
Apr 10 19:12:46 <burnside>	gonna be traveling for the next week or so.  any inquiries PM me on the forums or send a support request via btct.co.
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Apr 10 19:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 if bitcoincharts is retarded bot can't quote.
Apr 10 19:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	i've not unplugged anything.
Apr 10 19:16:55 <mod6>	gotcha.
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Apr 10 19:18:06 <naemsi>	What are people using as gox alternatives?
Apr 10 19:18:45 <benkay_>	there's campbx
Apr 10 19:18:53 <benkay_>	i'm trying them out
Apr 10 19:19:37 <naemsi>	thx
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Apr 10 19:22:59 <gesell>	;;ticker
Apr 10 19:23:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.26402, Best ask: 152.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.73598, Last trade: 152.00000, 24 hour volume: 182131.60623678, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 186.21706
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Apr 10 19:23:42 <ThickAsThieves>	so many of these gox trades are silly little bot amount
Apr 10 19:23:43 <ThickAsThieves>	s
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Apr 10 19:25:28 <naemsi>	benkay_: wow, that's weak.  It allowed me to create a non-alphanumeric username but won't allow me to log in with it.  :/
Apr 10 19:25:51 <MJR_>	bitfloor
Apr 10 19:26:49 <naemsi>	MJR_: thanks
Apr 10 19:27:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol securitah
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Apr 10 19:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.275 = 0.825 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 19:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238577/Maria-Santos-Gorrostieta-executed-surviving-assassination-attempts.html
Apr 10 19:35:36 <mircea_popescu>	so they finally got her.
Apr 10 19:38:20 <ThickAsThieves>	wow.
Apr 10 19:42:15 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: that's the kind of thing I mean by "X can also have problems."
Apr 10 19:43:12 <orkaa>	huh
Apr 10 19:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	ya, shooting rural women mayors, very impressive.
Apr 10 19:43:19 <orkaa>	she had some drama in her life
Apr 10 19:43:29 <orkaa>	but sad story anyway
Apr 10 19:44:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C167T] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
Apr 10 19:44:47 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 10 19:44:49 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 189.06
Apr 10 19:45:39 <mod6>	thank dog, the mpoe bot is back
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Apr 10 19:45:48 <MJR_>	i finally got socket.io to work with java
Apr 10 19:45:54 <MJR_>	i am the happiest guy in the world
Apr 10 19:46:03 <MJR_>	unfortunately, i can't get it to work over ssl
Apr 10 19:46:04 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, bitcoincharts livesd
Apr 10 19:46:15 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 19:46:16 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2.21016 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00442913589382 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Apr 10 19:46:43 <pizzaman1337>	oh hey, mpexbot lives too
Apr 10 19:47:17 <mircea_popescu>	they're related
Apr 10 19:47:19 <pizzaman1337>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 19:47:20 <gribble>	189.06
Apr 10 19:47:40 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, but sometimes bitcoincharts is "kinda" up and mpexbot doesn't place orders
Apr 10 19:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	well it has to get an answer when it asks sorta thing
Apr 10 19:48:51 <pizzaman1337>	how often does it retry if it fails to get a response?
Apr 10 19:49:14 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 19:49:18 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 20.926272 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0419360147858 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
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Apr 10 19:50:16 <gesell>	sorry, mpexbot is what controls gribble? is gribble getting its numbers from bitcoincharts?
Apr 10 19:50:17 <mircea_popescu>	well often-ish, but trying to also not kill the service
Apr 10 19:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	balancing act.
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Apr 10 19:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	gesell the 24hprc is from bitcoincharts yesd
Apr 10 19:50:45 <gesell>	aaah yeah
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Apr 10 19:52:12 <pizzaman1337>	look like they're only returning EUR and USD for currencies now, maybe that'll ease their load: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/
Apr 10 19:52:27 <pigeons>	;;ticker --currency cad
Apr 10 19:52:31 <gribble>	BTCCAD ticker | Best bid: 158.41987, Best ask: 165.39963, Bid-ask spread: 6.97976, Last trade: 163.21575, 24 hour volume: 701.68925062, 24 hour low: 106.20810, 24 hour high: 270.77398, 24 hour vwap: 198.09981
Apr 10 19:52:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 10 19:52:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 155.10300, Best ask: 155.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.89699, Last trade: 156.00000, 24 hour volume: 188103.95597068, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 185.00224
Apr 10 19:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000,
Apr 10 19:54:58 <mircea_popescu>	epic.
Apr 10 19:55:33 <bowjob>	so people who bought calls got burned this time
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Apr 10 19:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	it'd depend what calls they bought.
Apr 10 19:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	month started around 90.
Apr 10 19:57:15 <bowjob>	mhm
Apr 10 19:57:28 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172471.0 this is fulla win. usagi is taking over something or the other.
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Apr 10 20:01:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00070833 = 9.2791 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 20:02:19 <MJR_>	it is so funny how expectations change the story
Apr 10 20:02:22 <MJR_>	sad really
Apr 10 20:02:25 <MJR_>	when we were at 80
Apr 10 20:02:37 <MJR_>	i think 2 weeks ago?
Apr 10 20:02:46 <MJR_>	people would have been thrilled to hear we would be at 160
Apr 10 20:03:02 <MJR_>	but once you've hit 265 for no reason at all...now 160 isn't good?
Apr 10 20:03:09 <mod6>	haha. true MJR_
Apr 10 20:03:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 10 20:03:15 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 9136646.06287 based on data since last change | 9622630.79435 based on data for last three days
Apr 10 20:03:23 <ThickAsThieves>	!
Apr 10 20:03:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 10 20:03:31 <gribble>	68882.525336
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Apr 10 20:07:30 <benkay_>	people call me
Apr 10 20:07:34 <benkay_>	say "omg crash"
Apr 10 20:07:55 <benkay_>	i blink and say "srsly? you care about one day's movement?"
Apr 10 20:08:54 <benkay_>	call me if we're ever down week over week; whichever cryptocurrency is popular at the time might actually have hit a steady-state value at that point
Apr 10 20:09:04 <pizzaman1337>	looks like we have some healthy support at 160, http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
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Apr 10 20:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	benkay_ for every person that matters there's 1k+ people with a btc or less.
Apr 10 20:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	for every person with 1 btc or less there's 1k+ people with a bunch of social media accounts.
Apr 10 20:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	the resulting noise from all this amplification...
Apr 10 20:11:34 <KRS1>	that graph looks like the price will drop
Apr 10 20:11:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
Apr 10 20:11:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.719 BTC [-]
Apr 10 20:11:55 <benkay_>	isn't that the future of the currency distribution anyways? lots of people holding tiny amounts?
Apr 10 20:11:59 <benkay_>	mircea_popescu?
Apr 10 20:12:04 <KRS1>	will the network keep up?
Apr 10 20:12:08 <MJR_>	well the cream rises to the top
Apr 10 20:12:09 <mircea_popescu>	probably.
Apr 10 20:12:18 <Scrat>	we are the 1%
Apr 10 20:12:22 <Scrat>	occupy -assets
Apr 10 20:12:23 <KRS1>	im always worried about the network unable to facilitate transactions
Apr 10 20:12:24 <benkay_>	.001 hopefully
Apr 10 20:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	but the thing is, to 99.99% of people "involved, their involvement is just saying the name
Apr 10 20:12:31 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin
Apr 10 20:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	for 99% of people involved, their involvement is less than a decent meal.
Apr 10 20:12:49 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 10 20:12:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 167.00000, Best ask: 167.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 167.00000, 24 hour volume: 190512.24561499, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 184.31487
Apr 10 20:13:00 <MJR_>	they need to say the name 3 times in a dark room into a mirror
Apr 10 20:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	this somehow is disproportionate to the attention, almost as if the less skin in the game, the more theorizing etc.
Apr 10 20:13:14 <KRS1>	i've tried that..bitcoins from heaven does not come
Apr 10 20:13:17 <MJR_>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c2u1x/operation_foolscoin/
Apr 10 20:13:27 <KRS1>	i cant even begin to count all the coins i sold for dimes
Apr 10 20:13:35 <KRS1>	i would have been able to retire
Apr 10 20:14:05 <ThickAsThieves>	that support at 160 is probly price manip
Apr 10 20:14:12 <ThickAsThieves>	1 big wal
Apr 10 20:14:13 <ThickAsThieves>	l
Apr 10 20:14:49 <MJR_>	maybe
Apr 10 20:14:56 <MJR_>	i think they accomplished their goal already
Apr 10 20:15:00 <MJR_>	they got coins cheap
Apr 10 20:15:19 <MJR_>	by the way, did anyone see CNBC "MARKET WATCH: Bitcoin Bubble Burst?"
Apr 10 20:15:28 <MJR_>	like its a fed announcement, lol
Apr 10 20:15:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 10 20:16:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1019 BTC [-]
Apr 10 20:16:06 <benkay_>	mircea_popescu, even my hairdresser understands that a deflationary currency is worth more tomorrow
Apr 10 20:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty huge for btc really.
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Apr 10 20:16:14 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 10 20:16:18 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... people see it "bust" and still worth more than the dollar.
Apr 10 20:16:32 <MJR_>	i mean, i think the fact that we bounce back after a 3x (by price) bigger drop than the 2011 crash
Apr 10 20:16:38 <MJR_>	speaks to the fact that this is here
Apr 10 20:16:42 <MJR_>	and its not going anywhere
Apr 10 20:16:43 <gesell>	every time i refresh http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png i get a different image and sccale
Apr 10 20:18:34 <MJR_>	peace out all
Apr 10 20:18:50 <MJR_>	vires in numeris
Apr 10 20:18:59 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 10 20:19:21 <gesell>	ciao MJR_
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Apr 10 20:20:39 <mod6>	they talk about it here on CNBC @ ~4:00 => http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?play=1&video=3000160452
Apr 10 20:20:51 <mod6>	ugh
Apr 10 20:21:47 <mod6>	Maria: "... But Bill, where's the money!"
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Apr 10 20:22:16 <mod6>	well, i guess ~4:30 mins in
Apr 10 20:22:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.719 BTC [-]
Apr 10 20:23:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.702 BTC [-]
Apr 10 20:24:00 <mod6>	Santelli interviewed the BTC ATM guy a week or so ago.  That was kinda neat.
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Apr 10 20:27:01 <deadweasel>	they really wana squash gold.
Apr 10 20:27:14 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 20:27:15 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.545224 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00109262279137 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
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Apr 10 20:30:25 <gesell>	mr $1m moved his wall from 160 to 170
Apr 10 20:30:41 <gesell>	171 sorry
Apr 10 20:30:56 <Bugpowdeer>	and added
Apr 10 20:30:57 <Bugpowdeer>	to it
Apr 10 20:31:01 <Bugpowdeer>	4200 BTC
Apr 10 20:31:10 <Bugpowdeer>	I'm moving my asks higher
Apr 10 20:32:12 <bitbuyer_>	gesell - where are you seeing the order book?
Apr 10 20:32:23 <bitbuyer_>	clark moody down for me
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Apr 10 20:32:40 <dub>	everything is down
Apr 10 20:33:07 <bitbuyer_>	so how does gesell know that the bid moved from 160 to 170 / 171?
Apr 10 20:33:09 <gesell>	interesting strategy. moved it to 173
Apr 10 20:33:17 <gesell>	bitbuyer_: at clarkmoody
Apr 10 20:33:20 <dub>	bitbuyer_: Im guessing he doesnt
Apr 10 20:33:26 <gesell>	what?
Apr 10 20:33:42 <dub>	when was the last update?
Apr 10 20:33:44 <gesell>	seriously. you see 4000btc wall and you wantch it move
Apr 10 20:33:49 <gesell>	who has that much to move at once
Apr 10 20:33:55 <bitbuyer_>	my clark moody doesn't even populate the order book
Apr 10 20:34:08 <gesell>	i refresh
Apr 10 20:34:39 <Namworld>	huge wall moving upward yeah
Apr 10 20:34:44 <gesell>	yup
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Apr 10 20:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00068433 = 9.3753 BTC [-]
Apr 10 20:36:02 <Bugpowdeer>	FILLED at 179.59
Apr 10 20:36:24 <Bugpowdeer>	this is like my greatest daytrading day of my life
Apr 10 20:37:02 <bitbuyer_>	i see the book on bitfinex
Apr 10 20:37:28 <bitbuyer_>	the 4000 btc buyer moved to 179.5 and then it dropped off. filled?
Apr 10 20:37:33 <thestringpuller>	is price liquid again
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Apr 10 20:37:56 <Bugpowdeer>	still there
Apr 10 20:38:31 <gesell>	bitbuyer_: can you give a link?
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Apr 10 20:39:46 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 20:39:46 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 10 20:39:53 <gesell>	forreal?
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Apr 10 20:40:14 <benkay_>	;;ticker
Apr 10 20:40:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.76016, Best ask: 184.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23984, Last trade: 183.76016, 24 hour volume: 194344.33371735, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 183.79001
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Apr 10 20:40:29 <benkay_>	and we're back.
Apr 10 20:40:33 <benkay_>	;;goxlag
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Apr 10 20:40:40 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.183171 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000367072633115 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 10 20:40:43 <naemsi>	seen in comments on propaganda article:
Apr 10 20:40:46 <naemsi>	I rode the bitcoin train from early 2011 to today... this morning I had six figures in bitcoin net worth (if it were converted to dollars). I sensed that the bubble was bursting in the morning hours as the losses quickly accelerated. I sent my bitcoins to Mt. Gox exchange to sell them. It took an hour and a half plus for Mt. Gox to receive them, and then when I hit sell... even at market rates (which should clear almost instantly) it
Apr 10 20:40:46 <naemsi>	 was another 2+ hours for the orders to process. I ended up selling at what is currently about the bottom of today's trading range. Total losses from peak, just 6 hours earlier, about 60%.
Apr 10 20:40:55 <naemsi>	So that explains a lot...
Apr 10 20:41:04 <benkay_>	idiot.
Apr 10 20:41:15 <Bugpowdeer>	This is what makes mtgox and bitcoin so great
Apr 10 20:41:26 <Bugpowdeer>	the market is full of n00bs and idiots
Apr 10 20:41:32 <Bugpowdeer>	a fresh supply every day
Apr 10 20:41:34 <naemsi>	noobs who show up with 6 figure market sells.
Apr 10 20:41:39 <benkay_>	take alla dey monies.
Apr 10 20:41:46 <dub>	I bought at 240
Apr 10 20:42:01 <dub>	in my sleep, an hour after cancelling that order
Apr 10 20:42:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 35 @ 0.73 = 25.55 BTC [+]
Apr 10 20:42:05 <Bugpowdeer>	it takes a few times around the cycle of dip and recovery before you learn how this game works on gox.
Apr 10 20:42:33 <Bugpowdeer>	oh man
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Apr 10 20:42:38 <Bugpowdeer>	heavy buying pressure
Apr 10 20:42:41 <Bugpowdeer>	2 walls now
Apr 10 20:42:44 <Bugpowdeer>	pulling my bid
Apr 10 20:42:46 <Bugpowdeer>	FUCK
Apr 10 20:42:46 <gesell>	;;ticker
Apr 10 20:42:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 184.73451, Best ask: 187.70000, Bid-ask spread: 2.96549, Last trade: 187.70000, 24 hour volume: 194359.42745616, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 183.78868
Apr 10 20:43:02 <Bugpowdeer>	err my ask
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Apr 10 20:43:39 <dub>	had nothing from the socket for at least 10 minutes
Apr 10 20:43:45 <gesell>	Bugpowdeer: now clarkmoody not showing up. where are the clarkmoody servers anyway (what state?)
Apr 10 20:43:48 <dub>	nfi what you are looking at
Apr 10 20:43:53 <gesell>	just curious
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Apr 10 20:44:21 <gesell>	dub: yeah clarkmoody not showing
Apr 10 20:44:41 <gesell>	would be nice to have vpn  in .jp
Apr 10 20:45:06 <dub>	mtgoxUSD 2013-04-11 07:11:25 1365621085 116.01001 15.0 is the last I see
Apr 10 20:45:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 24 @ 0.00389 = 0.0934 BTC [+]
Apr 10 20:45:29 <TomServo>	I'm seeing orders go through on moody @ 187-188
Apr 10 20:45:36 <dub>	er thats history, it hasnt got anything new
Apr 10 20:45:43 <thestringpuller>	http://i.imgur.com/5L21T2f.png: i think this is proof bitcoin isn't a ponzi
Apr 10 20:46:12 <benkay_>	"proof"
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Apr 10 20:46:29 <thestringpuller>	no ponzi would have survived that
Apr 10 20:46:49 <thestringpuller>	that looks like the beginning of healthy price formation
Apr 10 20:46:58 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 10 20:46:59 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 134.77903219 / 225.05112226 / 226.07549464 (13617 shares, 2,342.12 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Apr 10 20:48:19 <Bugpowder>	YESSS
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Apr 10 20:48:42 <Bugpowder>	filled another 200 at 187.8
Apr 10 20:48:47 <Bugpowder>	unreal
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Apr 10 20:49:37 <Bugpowder>	Made $25,000 daytrading this oscillation.
Apr 10 20:50:01 <benkay_>	that is definitely unreal.
Apr 10 20:50:04 <deadweasel>	holy crap bug.
Apr 10 20:50:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [+]
Apr 10 20:50:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7729 BTC [+]
Apr 10 20:50:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7729 BTC [+]
Apr 10 20:50:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.773 = 11.595 BTC [+]
Apr 10 20:50:23 <Bugpowder>	I started with 100 BTC and a bunch of cash in gox
Apr 10 20:50:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.77399 = 10.8359 BTC [+]
Apr 10 20:50:35 <Bugpowder>	and now I have 100BTC and a bunch of cash + 25k.
Apr 10 20:50:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77399 BTC [+]
Apr 10 20:51:59 <gesell>	:)
Apr 10 20:52:01 <dub>	fuck you
Apr 10 20:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00069413 = 0.4165 BTC [+]
Apr 10 20:52:20 <gesell>	basically what we have is a the 8k btc whale from a few days ago
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Apr 10 20:53:03 <Bugpowder>	moody is updating
Apr 10 20:53:04 <Bugpowder>	btw
Apr 10 20:53:32 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: is that all in fiat or can you convert to BTC, I would say quite excellent getting those trades through MtGox
Apr 10 20:53:38 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: mah nigga
Apr 10 20:53:42 <gesell>	this is getting very predictable
Apr 10 20:53:46 <Bugpowder>	It's still sitting on gox
Apr 10 20:53:47 <Bugpowder>	in fiat
Apr 10 20:53:58 <thestringpuller>	Convert that shit to btc and send to FastCashforbitcoins
Apr 10 20:54:02 <thestringpuller>	go buy yourself a car
Apr 10 20:54:13 <Bugpowder>	I am going to buy this... just talked to the owner
Apr 10 20:54:21 <thestringpuller>	ooh lemme see
Apr 10 20:54:48 <Bugpowder>	http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/3727945775.html
Apr 10 20:55:00 <Bugpowder>	Anyone going to burning man?  Free rides on the Rockbox
Apr 10 20:55:07 <Bugpowder>	:)
Apr 10 20:55:08 <Guest34952>	Can someone help me undestand the transfer for a BitBet.us refund. Here is the refund: https://blockchain.info/tx/0ff327c694241b0a9c679d33307db48240e770f6d62dc15171ec331cd8d686ba?show_adv=true
Apr 10 20:55:21 <Bugpowder>	I saw this car at BM in 07 and 08
Apr 10 20:55:22 <Guest34952>	I'm 1Ge9NdCpu9GfonR2K3YRmpi7g23CxjCU9G
Apr 10 20:55:45 <gesell>	question, what is the vpn with the lowest hop count to tibanne?
Apr 10 20:55:52 <dub>	lolwat
Apr 10 20:55:52 <thestringpuller>	that's what's up
Apr 10 20:55:53 <Guest34952>	Sorry, I'm actually 193bq4LnBJ9bsJ4PUiKYwNkUt9N1L2AoUY
Apr 10 20:56:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00104 BTC [-]
Apr 10 20:56:15 <gesell>	or another option, give me a list of all vpn's in japan and ill try a bunch and report back
Apr 10 20:56:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.001034 BTC [-]
Apr 10 20:56:28 <Bugpowder>	BTW - I don't know where the price is going now...  The oscillation has damped down now.   My guess is that we head up following the similar pattern of the last week. but who knows.
Apr 10 20:56:37 <thestringpuller>	gesell: now geography and internet latency play a roll in getting orders into mtgox because the trade engine lags in execution times? That seems rather silly.
Apr 10 20:56:43 <Guest34952>	It shows me getting the refund and then 3 seconds later there is another transfer: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/65795535
Apr 10 20:56:46 <ThickAsThieves>	osc isnt done
Apr 10 20:56:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.001033 = 0.1033 BTC [-]
Apr 10 20:56:58 <ThickAsThieves>	second peak lower than first
Apr 10 20:57:05 <ThickAsThieves>	floor might lower also
Apr 10 20:57:10 <ThickAsThieves>	hard to say
Apr 10 20:57:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd put "natural price" at 120-150 somewhere
Apr 10 20:57:34 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: the calls will pay off you got them for me at a reasonable price. the chairman knows what he's doing, MPOE may be really profitable due to the swings people buy bad put bets
Apr 10 20:57:35 <Bugpowder>	It rarely goes more than 3 ripples
Apr 10 20:57:47 <thestringpuller>	and people buying*
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Apr 10 20:57:59 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: I exercised all my calls, except the 302Ts.
Apr 10 20:58:09 <ThickAsThieves>	still heavy manipulation
Apr 10 20:58:14 <Bugpowder>	450BTC profit
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Apr 10 20:58:19 <deadweasel>	!
Apr 10 20:58:25 <deadweasel>	awesome
Apr 10 20:58:26 <Bugpowder>	assuming the 302Ts are a zero
Apr 10 20:58:33 <thestringpuller>	You must have gotten in early. Why do you never tell me these things bugpowder?
Apr 10 20:58:42 <Bugpowder>	I bought the first day of the month
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Apr 10 20:58:46 <Bugpowder>	got lucky again
Apr 10 20:58:59 <thestringpuller>	Damn, this is why I don't buy early! Cause it's expensive and you need heavy swings
Apr 10 20:59:09 <Bugpowder>	Actually lost money on the ones I bought yesterday from ThickAsThieves
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Apr 10 20:59:49 <ThickAsThieves>	179 now...
Apr 10 20:59:50 <thestringpuller>	The month is early so I was hoping to exercise them later on but nooo I had to buy in late like always.
Apr 10 20:59:53 <thestringpuller>	I hate you guys
Apr 10 21:00:20 <thestringpuller>	I only lost 1.4 btc if the price is < 200 after 29th
Apr 10 21:00:25 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 10 21:00:27 <gribble>	183.03
Apr 10 21:00:51 <thestringpuller>	I should have sold more puts at 84 when the price was at 100
Apr 10 21:00:56 <thestringpuller>	:(
Apr 10 21:01:11 <gesell>	thestringpuller: what  I believe at least is that being closer to the exchange would give me more assured access to the orderbook data.
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Apr 10 21:04:33 <thestringpuller>	gesell: if the top vendors of the information can't get it why would you need at? at that point you should just go for a walk
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Apr 10 21:06:41 <gesell>	thestringpuller: oh my so true (on the walk). But actually it would have some value. the whale puts a wall low for a while then later starts to pump the price up when he sees the ask's spread near the edge isn't that large to jump a few $1's... so he eats upward a little (he spent about 400 to 800 btc on this) and then removed the wall and sold. At that point gox hikuped
Apr 10 21:07:04 <gesell>	being able to watch the orderbook closly would give sound mind for monitoring this
Apr 10 21:10:39 <thestringpuller>	no way man you gotta leave it to the bitcoin central bank to take care of it
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Apr 10 21:12:44 <thestringpuller>	take a look at it this way, if this is caused by new money that's entered the system, it's relatively more expensive to cause such hiccups than for early adopters such as those composing the BCB
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Apr 10 21:13:50 <thestringpuller>	i lost 0 today since it would cost a nominal 5-10million to hit my entering price point :P
Apr 10 21:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2602 BTC [-]
Apr 10 21:14:41 <gesell>	thestringpuller: sorry, im missing the insider joke? :)
Apr 10 21:14:51 <thestringpuller>	I bought in at 10 dollars
Apr 10 21:15:01 <thestringpuller>	so most of my coins are from october/november
Apr 10 21:15:07 <gesell>	thestringpuller: same here
Apr 10 21:15:15 <thestringpuller>	so then you lost nothing
Apr 10 21:15:27 <thestringpuller>	you have the ability to profit on the price formation
Apr 10 21:15:28 <gesell>	just lost time
Apr 10 21:15:30 <gesell>	thats about it
Apr 10 21:15:59 <thestringpuller>	did you not feel confident enough to market make by sending in limit orders to gox?
Apr 10 21:16:02 <Bugpowder>	OK I'm going to go home a do a writeup of this trade.  Awesomeness.
Apr 10 21:16:17 <gesell>	Bugpowder: where for?
Apr 10 21:16:22 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder you are becoming the most talented trader. You are making Yankee look like a n00b lol
Apr 10 21:16:26 <thestringpuller>	;;seen yankee
Apr 10 21:16:26 <gribble>	I have not seen yankee.
Apr 10 21:16:26 <cole_albon>	has anyone heard when is the next price increase for mpex seats?
Apr 10 21:16:28 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 10 21:16:37 <thestringpuller>	cole_albon: has there been one already?
Apr 10 21:16:55 <gesell>	thestringpuller: sorry what are limit orders?
Apr 10 21:16:56 <cole_albon>	it went from 20 to 30 some time ago
Apr 10 21:17:21 <cole_albon>	seems like it should be moving to 40 after sailing through today
Apr 10 21:17:42 <Bugpowder>	For me and my peeps
Apr 10 21:17:48 <Bugpowder>	I might put it on a blog
Apr 10 21:17:49 <thestringpuller>	gesell: limit orders get executed at that price if a corresponding market order can be found
Apr 10 21:17:50 <Bugpowder>	or not
Apr 10 21:17:58 <gesell>	Bugpowder: enjoy homes
Apr 10 21:18:11 <Bugpowder>	I don't know if I should keep it private to my friends or publicise it.
Apr 10 21:18:15 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: proving money can still be made on MtGox
Apr 10 21:18:23 <Bugpowder>	I don't want the market to get too smart.
Apr 10 21:18:35 <gesell>	thestringpuller: im sorry not sure what you meant
Apr 10 21:18:41 <gesell>	Bugpowder: keep it private
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Apr 10 21:19:03 <gesell>	i mean, i wont get it. but in general you'll regret it less. good enough to share with your friends
Apr 10 21:19:04 <Bugpowder>	I'm going to start a mailing list instead.
Apr 10 21:20:00 <gesell>	thestringpuller: i had some orders but took them off after sooomeone said there was another huge second wall
Apr 10 21:20:08 <Bugpowder>	there was
Apr 10 21:20:21 <Bugpowder>	and then the lower 4k wall did a pair of market buys
Apr 10 21:20:22 <gesell>	i know, couldnt get the order books to refresh
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Apr 10 21:20:31 <gesell>	Bugpowder: i watched those buys
Apr 10 21:20:37 <Bugpowder>	but the other wall eventually bought as well.
Apr 10 21:20:40 <gesell>	he put the whole wall there
Apr 10 21:20:46 <gesell>	i didnt see the second wall ever
Apr 10 21:20:52 <gesell>	what volume?
Apr 10 21:20:53 <Bugpowder>	although it also may have gotten sold into
Apr 10 21:20:56 <Bugpowder>	2500
Apr 10 21:21:02 <gesell>	the first was 4k and got sold down to about 3400
Apr 10 21:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2602 BTC [-]
Apr 10 21:21:06 <Bugpowder>	ya
Apr 10 21:21:14 <gesell>	fun times
Apr 10 21:21:16 <mjr___>	isn't yankee banned?
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Apr 10 21:21:46 <Bugpowder>	ok later dudes
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Apr 10 21:23:44 <gesell>	thestringpuller: im  more interested in just understanding numbers and patterns i guess. would love to have a history timeline on clarkmoody to be able to go back and watch things. The stuff on coinlab is nice (timeline sliding with volume walls) but would like to see the actual orderbook
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Apr 10 21:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00318999 = 3.19 BTC [-]
Apr 10 21:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1571 @ 0.00319 = 5.0115 BTC [+]
Apr 10 21:27:32 <thestringpuller>	learn to trade
Apr 10 21:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 529 @ 0.003289 = 1.7399 BTC [+]
Apr 10 21:27:56 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 10 21:27:56 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 11 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> i mean... people see it "bust" and still worth more than the dollar.
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Apr 10 21:29:58 <gesell>	thestringpuller: what do you mean? day trade?
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Apr 10 21:31:33 <thestringpuller>	no just trade on the price movements and see what happens, try and learn with hands on experience
Apr 10 21:31:37 <thestringpuller>	day trading is for gamblers
Apr 10 21:31:55 <gesell>	price movements such as these oscillations is day trading, or?
Apr 10 21:31:58 <thestringpuller>	day trading is making bets all day, the more bets you make the more likely you are to lose no?
Apr 10 21:32:13 <thestringpuller>	I would say what bugpowder did is market-making
Apr 10 21:32:22 <kakobrekla>	with 100 btc.
Apr 10 21:32:23 <gesell>	gotchya
Apr 10 21:32:24 <kakobrekla>	right.
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Apr 10 21:32:54 <kakobrekla>	he made a preety penny
Apr 10 21:33:00 <kakobrekla>	but he wasnt market making duh
Apr 10 21:33:08 <thestringpuller>	yea but he provided liquidity for people
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Apr 10 21:33:14 <thestringpuller>	he was putting in huge limit orders
Apr 10 21:33:24 <thestringpuller>	so the market orders would get filled
Apr 10 21:33:26 <gesell>	actually looking back over things the whale only executed on this last oscillation, or at least only sold on that one, and only executed the runup buy before the sell and crash on that one. seems rather healthy infact. if he was building his position post crash he's helping stabilise matters, even if he's wiggling the lines for profit after
Apr 10 21:33:29 <kakobrekla>	100 btc huge?
Apr 10 21:34:00 <thestringpuller>	100 btc is nothing but in volatile climate anything helps no? or am I just "overthinking"
Apr 10 21:34:03 <thestringpuller>	:P
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Apr 10 21:35:21 <kakobrekla>	what would the price be now if you take those 100 btc out?
Apr 10 21:36:57 <thestringpuller>	the same
Apr 10 21:36:58 <thestringpuller>	haha
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Apr 10 21:37:04 <thestringpuller>	okay kakobrekla I see your point hehe
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Apr 10 21:38:28 <polaman>	Imagine if Amazon accepted Bitcoin. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c3sqp/i_have_an_idea_its_think_its_pretty_awesome_for/
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Apr 10 21:39:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P146T] 50 @ 0.10598442 = 5.2992 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 21:40:36 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 21:40:37 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2.517403 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00504484742575 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
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Apr 10 21:43:12 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 21:43:12 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 95.297938 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.190976000743 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
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Apr 10 21:44:43 <gesell>	funny gox. 167.00 stuck in a order loop on clarkmoody
Apr 10 21:45:20 <gesell>	(showing a new order for 167.0 for 0.001btc every one second)
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Apr 10 21:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2602 BTC [-]
Apr 10 21:46:23 <gesell>	oh sht... here we have the orderbook fiiiiiiiiiiled with these 0.01 orders again
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Apr 10 21:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29499 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 21:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4288 @ 0.00068549 = 2.9394 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 21:48:29 <Bugpowder>	back over 10M in bids.
Apr 10 21:48:33 <gesell>	there are about 400 of the 0.01 orders on the book now
Apr 10 21:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.295 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 21:50:26 <Bugpowder>	so annoying
Apr 10 21:52:08 <gesell>	so the lag built up i guess due to the the orders being placed. i guess it just cant handle putting 600 orders at once, or in rapid sequence. fascinating problems. would love to be an  engineer there right now
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Apr 10 21:52:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00104 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 21:53:37 <gesell>	what I saw happen actually was the lag hit, the order book would not update BUT there were constant orders being fulfilled at 167.00 for 0.001btc, poping out of the websocket once a second
Apr 10 21:53:44 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 10 21:53:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 170.00100, Best ask: 171.50000, Bid-ask spread: 1.49900, Last trade: 171.50000, 24 hour volume: 204284.09097142, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 182.65897
Apr 10 21:53:54 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Apr 10 21:53:56 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068433 / 0.00070489 / 0.000715 (193315 shares, 136.27 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069023 / 0.00071514 (2074392 shares, 1,431.81 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068767 / 0.00077505 (9460374 shares, 6,505.69 BTC)
Apr 10 21:54:23 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 10 21:54:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 134.77903219 / 225.1210737 / 226.15428617 (13572 shares, 2,324.09 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 10 21:54:38 <gesell>	I'm curious if the order book eats down to where it starts eating each of the 0.01 orders starting at 165
Apr 10 21:54:42 <gesell>	if it wont go to a huge lag again
Apr 10 21:55:36 <Bugpowder>	gesell: I think it lags when it needs to resolve whether existing orders change their funded status
Apr 10 21:56:11 <gesell>	really? I never understood why gox does this anyway, letting you place orders for funds you dont have. suppose this is common on exchanges?
Apr 10 21:56:55 <ThickAsThieves>	so if i make a few undred orders starting at current bid price, itll lag out?
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Apr 10 21:57:10 <orkaa>	gesell: you can be waiting for SEPA transfer and wanting to enter the market as soon as possible?
Apr 10 21:57:21 <orkaa>	i would imagine
Apr 10 21:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00068433 = 1.7793 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 21:58:20 <thestringpuller>	orkaa: but only 6 confirms for btc's to hit
Apr 10 21:58:34 <thestringpuller>	drop btc's on limit order bids like bombs
Apr 10 21:58:51 <gesell>	well they should change this i guess. this are things you can stress test easily internally i would think, and changing policy might fix some of the issues. I mean, i guess to add to the fire they might also update your fee status after each trade to determine when you get discounted. a lot of calculations for each trade
Apr 10 21:58:53 <ThickAsThieves>	gox says minimum bid is .01
Apr 10 21:58:56 <ThickAsThieves>	did they change it?
Apr 10 21:59:11 <ThickAsThieves>	or are only bots able to bid lower?
Apr 10 21:59:45 <Namworld>	changed it maybe?
Apr 10 21:59:53 <ThickAsThieves>	i think so
Apr 10 21:59:55 <gesell>	bah, i think when i have time im going to build an orderbook logger. i'd like to see how these trades were placed and eaten or removed during the first crash today
Apr 10 22:00:22 <thestringpuller>	today was no crash gesell
Apr 10 22:00:23 <ThickAsThieves>	whats funny is gox was probably asleep the whole crash
Apr 10 22:00:33 <thestringpuller>	dude 260 - 170?
Apr 10 22:00:45 <thestringpuller>	that's not even 50%
Apr 10 22:00:58 <ThickAsThieves>	you are assuming 170 will hold
Apr 10 22:01:03 <Namworld>	266 -> 107
Apr 10 22:01:07 <Namworld>	Way over 50%
Apr 10 22:01:09 <ThickAsThieves>	105
Apr 10 22:01:10 <thestringpuller>	the bulls will get their shit together
Apr 10 22:01:21 <Namworld>	no...
Apr 10 22:01:34 <thestringpuller>	the low was 107 I don't think many market orders got filled at that price maybe a few
Apr 10 22:01:50 <ThickAsThieves>	gox and moody say 105
Apr 10 22:02:13 <ThickAsThieves>	but yeah i doubt many were filled that low
Apr 10 22:02:16 <Namworld>	the last crashes were less than 50% at peak max and recovered quickly
Apr 10 22:02:22 <Namworld>	only to resume raising...
Apr 10 22:02:23 <orkaa>	i saw 80 once
Apr 10 22:02:24 <orkaa>	:)
Apr 10 22:02:32 <Namworld>	this time it stabilised low
Apr 10 22:02:36 <Namworld>	with lots of ask...
Apr 10 22:03:06 <Namworld>	I think we'll see downward trend resume...
Apr 10 22:03:14 <Bugpowder>	It was 260 ->105
Apr 10 22:03:16 <ThickAsThieves>	agreed
Apr 10 22:03:20 <thestringpuller>	yea, this scenario overall was probably the only thing that could keep the price from rising so quick
Apr 10 22:03:29 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 10 22:03:29 <gribble>	There are currently 42765971 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10330697.1166 USD in total. | Data vintage: 89.6494 seconds
Apr 10 22:03:33 <thestringpuller>	bull charge will be less this time
Apr 10 22:03:47 <Bugpowder>	I think we won't go down from here
Apr 10 22:04:00 <ThickAsThieves>	all those 15000 people in the q might be more timid as well
Apr 10 22:04:01 <Bugpowder>	10M is enough bid support for this price level, more funds are on their way in.
Apr 10 22:04:03 <Namworld>	I think we'll go downward...
Apr 10 22:04:16 <Bugpowder>	OK what is your reasoning?
Apr 10 22:04:34 <thestringpuller>	Namworld has no reasoning just his gut
Apr 10 22:04:51 <ThickAsThieves>	its a fair question
Apr 10 22:05:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i wanna pull some charts
Apr 10 22:05:09 <ThickAsThieves>	but can't...
Apr 10 22:05:22 <Namworld>	yes there's reasoning. Price is just hot air
Apr 10 22:05:47 <Namworld>	It's been a constant self-fueling flock of speculator buying more because price keeps going up.
Apr 10 22:05:54 <Bugpowder>	data?
Apr 10 22:06:14 <Bugpowder>	OK you have reasoning, but I am data driven
Apr 10 22:06:18 <Bugpowder>	10M in bids,
Apr 10 22:06:22 <Bugpowder>	and increasing
Apr 10 22:06:28 <Bugpowder>	and more wires clearing soon
Apr 10 22:06:39 <Namworld>	The huge MtGox waitline, the amount of new people who showed up around these chat channel only when price started to rise, etc.
Apr 10 22:06:52 <Bugpowder>	yes those are bullish indicators to me
Apr 10 22:07:02 <Namworld>	I don't see a bigger BTC economy, just more and more histeric people wanting Bitcoins.
Apr 10 22:07:25 <ThickAsThieves>	for me the reasoning has to do with separating the manic buying from the underlying trend
Apr 10 22:07:27 <Namworld>	Not to spend them... because "they want to earn money too"
Apr 10 22:07:57 <ThickAsThieves>	open clark moody and click the H1 view
Apr 10 22:08:27 <Namworld>	I'm on that...
Apr 10 22:08:29 <Namworld>	already
Apr 10 22:08:35 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug too
Apr 10 22:08:41 <ThickAsThieves>	see the problem?
Apr 10 22:08:46 <Namworld>	wouldn't buy before the yellow line goes back over the blue one
Apr 10 22:08:50 <ThickAsThieves>	and the resolution
Apr 10 22:09:31 <ThickAsThieves>	even 165 is potentially above the trend
Apr 10 22:10:07 <ThickAsThieves>	the price of the moment is just games
Apr 10 22:10:11 <Namworld>	and check weekly chart...
Apr 10 22:10:14 <ThickAsThieves>	it hasnt landed yet
Apr 10 22:10:15 <Bugpowder>	fucknig blue and yellow lines
Apr 10 22:10:17 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 10 22:10:28 <Namworld>	http://i.imgur.com/1uwrLCA.png
Apr 10 22:10:52 <Namworld>	Does businesses revolving around BTC develop themselves over a few weeks like that?
Apr 10 22:11:13 <Bugpowder>	its certainly a forward looking price
Apr 10 22:11:16 <Bugpowder>	:)
Apr 10 22:11:34 <Namworld>	It's speculation that can do that... not stable economy... proof in the incredibly huge volatility we kept seeing all along the rise.
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Apr 10 22:12:04 <ThickAsThieves>	i got swept up in the mania too though
Apr 10 22:12:13 <ThickAsThieves>	it should have been obvious to all of us
Apr 10 22:12:16 <Bugpowder>	I'm not convinced speculation is killed off by a correction
Apr 10 22:12:18 <ThickAsThieves>	to sell this week
Apr 10 22:12:27 <Bugpowder>	I sell every week
Apr 10 22:12:36 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean majorly
Apr 10 22:12:44 <Namworld>	I sold a bunch at 250
Apr 10 22:12:46 <Bugpowder>	I sell majorly every week
Apr 10 22:12:50 <dub>	I sold at $265
Apr 10 22:12:50 <ThickAsThieves>	ok ok
Apr 10 22:12:51 <Namworld>	good call
Apr 10 22:13:05 <Bugpowder>	I tried to sell at 265 but fast cash was out of coins
Apr 10 22:13:09 <Bugpowder>	err $$$
Apr 10 22:13:10 <Namworld>	lol...
Apr 10 22:13:16 <dub>	but gox bought for me again at $240
Apr 10 22:13:20 <dub>	because gox
Apr 10 22:13:21 <Bugpowder>	trololol
Apr 10 22:13:23 <Namworld>	Bugpowder kept getting calls each month and selling the profits or something
Apr 10 22:13:23 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 10 22:13:28 <Bugpowder>	yep
Apr 10 22:13:39 <ThickAsThieves>	that was my plan
Apr 10 22:13:41 <Bugpowder>	I basically bet 15% of stack on calls
Apr 10 22:13:42 <gesell>	i think speculation is going to take a larger share of the value in dollar amount, much more so that the utility of bitcoin, for a long while. bitcoin was designed with "Store of value" speculation due to scarcity in mind so cant seperate from it
Apr 10 22:13:46 <ThickAsThieves>	til this rude interruption
Apr 10 22:13:53 <Bugpowder>	and cash out the proceeds
Apr 10 22:14:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i still made 51btc overall on options
Apr 10 22:14:16 <Bugpowder>	gesell: Agree
Apr 10 22:14:18 <ThickAsThieves>	mostly thanks to Bug... :/
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Apr 10 22:14:33 <Bugpowder>	Eventaully I will lose my 15% of stack
Apr 10 22:14:40 <Bugpowder>	but so far I have tripled the stack
Apr 10 22:15:05 <KRS1>	leet trades man
Apr 10 22:15:09 <Bugpowder>	until this strategy fails me I am sticking to it
Apr 10 22:15:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77346 BTC [-]
Apr 10 22:15:38 <gesell>	Bugpowder: i didn't see the whale active in the 2 prior oscillations. i was only active on the last
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Apr 10 22:15:50 <gesell>	did you notice the whale in any of the others when you were working in them?
Apr 10 22:15:56 <Bugpowder>	nah
Apr 10 22:16:00 <Bugpowder>	it wasn't 1 guy
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Apr 10 22:16:14 <Bugpowder>	it was just market psychology when you have a 1 hour delay
Apr 10 22:16:20 <gesell>	right
Apr 10 22:16:26 <Bugpowder>	o shit its under 150, buy buy buy.
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Apr 10 22:16:29 <Bugpowder>	wait 75 minutes
Apr 10 22:16:37 <Bugpowder>	the buys start kicking in
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Apr 10 22:17:45 <gesell>	also the last oscillation was the only i found with huge volume right at the apex
Apr 10 22:18:04 <gesell>	so assumed he was only active (or at least only used this strategy) on the last
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Apr 10 22:19:35 <dub>	is the sierra bridge working for anyone?
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Apr 10 22:21:35 <Bugpowder>	wats the link for that again?
Apr 10 22:21:49 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6019
Apr 10 22:21:50 <gesell>	its software
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Apr 10 22:22:37 <gesell>	uses bitcoincharts for data??
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Apr 10 22:22:50 <gesell>	or  only historical data
Apr 10 22:23:30 <dub>	yeah for historical and I think fallback when socket is goxxed (which it seems to be)
Apr 10 22:24:02 <dub>	he removed the -w[eb] arg so I dunno if it does that anymore, certainly not working now
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Apr 10 22:26:40 <gesell>	question, do the php interfaces for mtgox give the full orderbook? even if delayed
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Apr 10 22:29:32 <dub>	ask in #bitcoin-analysis, few peeps with custom charting jonx
Apr 10 22:29:52 <Bugpowder>	HEY-YO
Apr 10 22:29:53 <Bugpowder>	http://s2.bitcoinity.org/markets/
Apr 10 22:30:19 <dub>	sneaky
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Apr 10 22:31:00 <gesell>	dub: thanks
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Apr 10 22:31:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2202 @ 0.00068549 = 1.5094 BTC [+]
Apr 10 22:31:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00069413 = 2.9153 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 22:38:35 <ThickAsThieves>	lag time
Apr 10 22:38:39 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 10 22:38:40 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3.623271 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00726099451584 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
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Apr 10 22:38:48 <ThickAsThieves>	seems worse
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Apr 10 22:39:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00104 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 22:39:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77346 BTC [-]
Apr 10 22:39:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7239 BTC [-]
Apr 10 22:40:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7238 BTC [-]
Apr 10 22:40:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7237 = 2.8948 BTC [-]
Apr 10 22:40:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 37 @ 0.72346 = 26.768 BTC [-]
Apr 10 22:40:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
Apr 10 22:40:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7001 = 7.001 BTC [-]
Apr 10 22:40:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.7 = 35 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 22:47:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P134T] 469 @ 0.07076784 = 33.1901 BTC
Apr 10 22:48:09 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 10 22:48:11 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 182.84
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Apr 10 22:56:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76997 BTC [+]
Apr 10 22:57:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76998 BTC [+]
Apr 10 22:57:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.76999 = 4.6199 BTC [+]
Apr 10 22:58:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.77 = 3.08 BTC [+]
Apr 10 22:58:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77347 BTC [+]
Apr 10 22:59:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77348 BTC [+]
Apr 10 22:59:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7735 BTC [+]
Apr 10 22:59:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77396 BTC [+]
Apr 10 22:59:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7043 @ 0.00070426 = 4.9601 BTC [+]
Apr 10 22:59:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.77396 = 7.7396 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 23:01:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.77399 = 3.87 BTC [+]
Apr 10 23:01:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.774 BTC [+]
Apr 10 23:01:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7755 = 3.8775 BTC [+]
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Apr 10 23:07:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7754 BTC [-]
Apr 10 23:07:57 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 10 23:07:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 165.62001, Best ask: 165.62500, Bid-ask spread: 0.00499, Last trade: 165.62500, 24 hour volume: 215796.07121329, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 180.62580
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Apr 10 23:09:31 <dub>	https://www.facebook.com/MtGox/posts/455962117821534
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Apr 10 23:11:36 <benkay>	spectacularly well written.
Apr 10 23:11:52 <kakobrekla>	yes it was a great fuckin success
Apr 10 23:13:23 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 10 23:13:37 <ThickAsThieves>	has anyone typed "Hey Gox, Fuck You." yet?
Apr 10 23:14:09 <Bugpowder>	it was a pretty great success actually
Apr 10 23:14:14 <Bugpowder>	enjoyed it very much
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Apr 10 23:14:32 <ThickAsThieves>	...
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Apr 10 23:14:54 <kakobrekla>	i got a bunch of worried calls
Apr 10 23:15:06 <kakobrekla>	had to calm ppl down
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Apr 10 23:16:14 <kakobrekla>	dissapointing that no ddos
Apr 10 23:16:20 <kakobrekla>	and such low performance
Apr 10 23:16:34 <kakobrekla>	of whole ecosystem, not just gox
Apr 10 23:16:47 <splnkr>	well hopefully it's a wake up call
Apr 10 23:16:57 <splnkr>	miners aren't the only ones who need to be upgrading their hardware =P
Apr 10 23:16:59 <kakobrekla>	its been ringing for a while
Apr 10 23:17:55 <splnkr>	we're going to have to start local bitcoin trading bazaars in real life if this keeps up
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Apr 10 23:37:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77538 BTC [-]
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Apr 10 23:40:01 <bgupta>	kakobrekla: what site are you with?
Apr 10 23:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.29999999 = 1.8 BTC [+]
Apr 10 23:40:20 <ThickAsThieves>	bitbet
Apr 10 23:40:30 <ThickAsThieves>	and bitfinex i think
Apr 10 23:40:53 <bgupta>	ah that explains it.. I was like why would bitcoin betters be calling him
Apr 10 23:42:50 <kakobrekla>	who what?
Apr 10 23:42:56 <kakobrekla>	not bitfinex
Apr 10 23:42:59 <kakobrekla>	HOW DARE YOU!
Apr 10 23:43:15 <bgupta>	kakobrekla: btw I like bitbet if that's you
Apr 10 23:43:23 <kakobrekla>	thats me and mircea
Apr 10 23:43:37 <kakobrekla>	and ty
Apr 10 23:43:40 <kakobrekla>	:)
Apr 10 23:45:05 <bgupta>	don't use it much (made one losing bet that btc wouldn't hit 200)  however, I think it's a useful site.. and fairly easy to use.. (the whole math of weights and stuff I just take on your word).. :)
Apr 10 23:45:34 <bgupta>	(If I used it more I'd spend the cycles to grok it)
Apr 10 23:45:35 <kakobrekla>	:)
Apr 10 23:46:18 <kakobrekla>	its not that hard to grasp, the losers money pool is split to the winners by coin*weight
Apr 10 23:46:34 <kakobrekla>	add your original bet and take off 1%
Apr 10 23:46:37 <kakobrekla>	and you get what you get
Apr 10 23:46:51 <bgupta>	ahh.. ok so ther isn't something like earlier you bet the mor weight you get?
Apr 10 23:46:59 <kakobrekla>	ofc
Apr 10 23:47:02 <kakobrekla>	weight goes down with time
Apr 10 23:47:12 <kakobrekla>	on most of the bets
Apr 10 23:47:22 <kakobrekla>	it can be set to go from 100.000 to n
Apr 10 23:47:27 <kakobrekla>	that be 100k or 1
Apr 10 23:48:13 <bgupta>	the thing I find confusing is that say I bet when its 10 to 1 odds.. and the odss change drastically during the furation of the bet.. it seems that those that are betting latr when it's 1 to 10 shouldn't have as many benefits..
Apr 10 23:48:43 <bgupta>	I think the issue is the system is designed for future bets during a "now" betting window.. and not really for short term bets
Apr 10 23:49:01 <znstyle>	hi kakobrekla? i just sent you an email regarding bitbet
Apr 10 23:49:52 <bgupta>	kakobrekla: Curious how much of your time does it take to run bitbet, and what plans can you share about future improements?
Apr 10 23:49:54 <kakobrekla>	bgupta i dont understand why is it not for shorter bets? adjust the end bet weight accordingly to suit your wanted decay and thats that?
Apr 10 23:50:25 <kakobrekla>	zi znstyle
Apr 10 23:50:31 <kakobrekla>	hi*
Apr 10 23:50:35 <znstyle>	hi
Apr 10 23:51:29 <bgupta>	I don't think there is a big problem.. just need to adesign your bets carefully and check the rules for the bet carefully
Apr 10 23:51:54 <znstyle>	kakobrekla, if you have the time, I was hoping we could talk?
Apr 10 23:52:12 <kakobrekla>	znstyle, pm
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Apr 10 23:53:44 <kakobrekla>	bgupta, well it takes what it takes, there are plans to improve, workin on it
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Apr 10 23:54:25 <bgupta>	kakobrekia: cool sounds like it's largely automated.. so that's good and should leave you time to work on it.
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Apr 11 00:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.2500001 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:00:33 <kakobrekla>	if by automated you mean mods, then yeah :D
Apr 11 00:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.2500001 = 1.25 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.2500001 = 12.5 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2500001 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 00:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2500001 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:04:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2500001 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:04:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2500001 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:04:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2500001 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:04:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2500001 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:04:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2500001 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.2500001 = 5 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 00:07:45 <Bugpowder>	good morning japan
Apr 11 00:07:50 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Apr 11 00:07:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 175.34946, Best ask: 176.65664, Bid-ask spread: 1.30718, Last trade: 178.50000, 24 hour volume: 223439.83273475, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 179.81046
Apr 11 00:07:53 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 11 00:07:53 <gribble>	There are currently 42708820 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10022587.6149 USD in total. | Data vintage: 73.1889 seconds
Apr 11 00:08:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.2500001 = 2 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:08:03 <pandnh4>	bugpowder, line up dink!
Apr 11 00:08:09 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 11 00:08:30 <pandnh4>	it's alicia shmellverstone
Apr 11 00:08:43 <Bugpowder>	BENDER IS THAT YOU?
Apr 11 00:08:48 <pandnh4>	no
Apr 11 00:08:51 <Bugpowder>	I know
Apr 11 00:09:18 <pandnh4>	it's your lil bro
Apr 11 00:09:21 <pandnh4>	haha
Apr 11 00:09:39 <Bugpowder>	finally ready to start #winning?
Apr 11 00:09:57 <Bugpowder>	I'm prepping the mailing list now
Apr 11 00:10:02 <Bugpowder>	google group
Apr 11 00:10:07 <pandnh4>	let's see, i still need to fund my mt-gox account
Apr 11 00:10:18 <Bugpowder>	are you at least verified yet?
Apr 11 00:10:21 <pandnh4>	do i have to wait to get verified before i can fund?
Apr 11 00:11:17 <Bugpowder>	before you can trade with your funds
Apr 11 00:11:22 <Bugpowder>	or fund, I don't remember which
Apr 11 00:11:26 <Bugpowder>	are you in NYC?
Apr 11 00:11:29 <Bugpowder>	or Boston?
Apr 11 00:11:43 <Bugpowder>	localbitcoins.com has great prices in boston
Apr 11 00:11:46 <pandnh4>	hometown
Apr 11 00:12:24 <pandnh4>	btw, do other ppl on this service care that we're just chatting here, or is that cool?
Apr 11 00:12:28 <Bugpowder>	kinda dead here tonight… people must be tired from watching
Apr 11 00:12:34 <Bugpowder>	you can pm me
Apr 11 00:12:46 <pandnh4>	here or fb?
Apr 11 00:12:59 <bgupta>	no it's cool
Apr 11 00:14:00 <pandnh4>	ok, we've taken it to pvt msg, but thanks
Apr 11 00:14:09 <bgupta>	people are tired and have body aches from all the price action today… win or lose, it's been hectic.
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Apr 11 00:18:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8180 @ 0.00070625 = 5.7771 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 00:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.25666 = 3.8499 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 00:26:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77538 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:26:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77539 BTC [+]
Apr 11 00:26:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77539 BTC [+]
Apr 11 00:26:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7755 = 1.551 BTC [+]
Apr 11 00:26:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00303 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:26:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.00303 = 0.0242 BTC [-]
Apr 11 00:26:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00304 BTC [+]
Apr 11 00:26:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.00304 = 0.0243 BTC [+]
Apr 11 00:27:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00305 = 0.0915 BTC [+]
Apr 11 00:27:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00307 = 0.0307 BTC [+]
Apr 11 00:27:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 42 @ 0.00319 = 0.134 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 00:29:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5753 @ 0.00070833 = 4.075 BTC [+]
Apr 11 00:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5147 @ 0.000715 = 3.6801 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 00:38:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 11 00:38:14 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230754 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1085 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 0 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9094927.25315 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.53157
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Apr 11 00:43:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1019 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 00:48:47 <Bugpowder>	I guess now we wait till the vwap hits bottom
Apr 11 00:48:51 <Bugpowder>	then buy calls?!?
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Apr 11 00:54:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
Apr 11 00:55:04 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 11 00:55:05 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 179.50
Apr 11 00:56:55 <gesell>	adios. have a good evening
Apr 11 00:56:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8336 @ 0.000715 = 5.9602 BTC [+]
Apr 11 00:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1764 @ 0.00071514 = 1.2615 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 01:11:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P095T] 5 @ 0.00445284 = 0.0223 BTC [-]
Apr 11 01:13:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8376 @ 0.00071514 = 5.99 BTC [+]
Apr 11 01:13:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4924 @ 0.000716 = 3.5256 BTC [+]
Apr 11 01:13:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7501 BTC [-]
Apr 11 01:13:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75008 BTC [-]
Apr 11 01:20:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P308T] 1 @ 0.72129114 BTC [-]
Apr 11 01:21:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12454 @ 0.00071526 = 8.9078 BTC [-]
Apr 11 01:21:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1596 @ 0.00071544 = 1.1418 BTC [+]
Apr 11 01:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 35 @ 0.25666 = 8.9831 BTC [+]
Apr 11 01:26:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.25 = 1.25 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 01:37:46 <taub>	$avg
Apr 11 01:37:47 <mpexbot>	taub: 179.13
Apr 11 01:39:02 <taub>	bgupta> the thing I find confusing is that say I bet when its 10 to 1 odds.. and the odss change drastically during the furation of the bet.. it seems that those that are betting latr when it's 1 to 10 shouldn't have as many benefits..
Apr 11 01:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.24134 = 3.8614 BTC [-]
Apr 11 01:39:07 <taub>	yea
Apr 11 01:39:29 <taub>	you can fix that by setting your betting window very short
Apr 11 01:39:38 <taub>	and farther away from the outcome
Apr 11 01:39:54 <bgupta>	right… his answr made me realise that
Apr 11 01:40:07 <bgupta>	I have never setup a bet so I didn't know it was so tunable
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Apr 11 01:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.24134 = 1.2067 BTC [-]
Apr 11 01:42:11 <taub>	oh yea he answered it already :)
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Apr 11 01:46:07 <splnkr>	i can't believe there was a double-dip sell-off today; my slow ass actually got to scoop some up near the bottom =)
Apr 11 01:46:17 <splnkr>	second-time around that is
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Apr 11 01:49:10 <kakobrekla>	07:48.27 ( coinmaster ) [Stamp] BTC 163.210 USD (+0.010 USD)
Apr 11 01:49:10 <kakobrekla>	07:48.37 ( coinmaster ) [MtGox] BTC 173.213 USD (-0.787 USD)
Apr 11 01:49:18 <kakobrekla>	been going like this for a while now
Apr 11 01:49:37 <kakobrekla>	10$ distance
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Apr 11 01:57:11 <Bugpowder>	splnkr: my trades today.
Apr 11 01:57:12 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/TfSNGC5.png
Apr 11 01:58:02 <splnkr>	gnarly
Apr 11 01:59:09 <splnkr>	bugpowder way to ride it. i'm still trying to shore up my position so just glad to get to do so at a relatively reasonable price today near the nadir
Apr 11 01:59:29 <Bugpowder>	definitely my best day on gox ever
Apr 11 01:59:50 <Bugpowder>	such a pretty chart too
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Apr 11 02:13:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000653 = 0.0033 BTC [-]
Apr 11 02:13:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000651 = 0.0651 BTC [-]
Apr 11 02:13:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00065 = 0.65 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 02:17:49 <bgupta>	are we done oscilating?
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Apr 11 02:20:47 <bgupta>	seems we keep bouncing agains the 180 wall.. but now there isn't any wiggle room. IE: We are either gonna eat the wall or do something else.
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Apr 11 02:22:07 <bgupta>	woah… and it begins again?
Apr 11 02:23:57 <taub>	$avg
Apr 11 02:23:58 <mpexbot>	taub: 178.80
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Apr 11 02:28:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00270001 = 2.7 BTC [-]
Apr 11 02:28:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2254 @ 0.0027 = 6.0858 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 02:40:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C230T] 30 @ 0.10129846 = 3.039 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 02:41:51 <Bowjob>	For my cakeday, I got a new CPU and an SSD
Apr 11 02:42:02 <Bowjob>	holy shit the differences is bitcoin and litecoin
Apr 11 02:42:08 <Bowjob>	<3
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Apr 11 02:46:42 <bgupta>	Bowjob: ??
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Apr 11 02:48:09 <Bowjob>	computer upgrades
Apr 11 02:48:23 <Bowjob>	I have a new CPU and a new SSD harddrive
Apr 11 02:48:39 <Bowjob>	the difference between my old components and this one is like bitcoin and litecoin
Apr 11 02:48:40 <Bowjob>	get it?
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Apr 11 02:55:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7742 BTC [+]
Apr 11 02:56:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77435 BTC [+]
Apr 11 02:59:25 <taub>	aaaaaaaanndd data craops out again
Apr 11 02:59:44 <taub>	i fukin sware on me mum mtgox gotta die
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Apr 11 03:11:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77444 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 03:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 03:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.44 = 4.32 BTC [+]
Apr 11 03:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.44 = 4.32 BTC [+]
Apr 11 03:13:39 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 11 03:13:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.30000, Best ask: 181.05420, Bid-ask spread: 0.75420, Last trade: 180.30000, 24 hour volume: 238678.24902398, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 178.72431
Apr 11 03:13:46 <bitesak>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 03:13:47 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.715466 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00343777465669 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
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Apr 11 03:15:12 <bitesak>	still no prices on options?
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Apr 11 03:16:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00149 BTC [+]
Apr 11 03:18:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 11 @ 0.001499 = 0.0165 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 03:29:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7937 @ 0.00071544 = 5.6784 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 03:33:49 <bitesak>	how are you doing goat?
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Apr 11 03:52:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00318 = 0.0095 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 03:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29388 BTC [+]
Apr 11 03:55:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29389 BTC [+]
Apr 11 03:55:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29389 BTC [+]
Apr 11 03:55:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2939 = 0.5878 BTC [+]
Apr 11 03:55:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.294 = 4.41 BTC [+]
Apr 11 03:55:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.295 BTC [+]
Apr 11 03:55:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 258 @ 0.3 = 77.4 BTC [+]
Apr 11 03:55:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 04:03:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0028 = 0.056 BTC [-]
Apr 11 04:03:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.00255 = 0.102 BTC [-]
Apr 11 04:03:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 11 04:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]
Apr 11 04:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.24134 = 1.2067 BTC [-]
Apr 11 04:09:34 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 11 04:09:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 178.00000, Best ask: 178.71800, Bid-ask spread: 0.71800, Last trade: 178.71800, 24 hour volume: 239252.11333715, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 177.93984
Apr 11 04:09:45 <ChaangNoi>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 04:09:45 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.567282 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00113682677639 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
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Apr 11 04:13:32 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 11 04:13:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 177.00003, Best ask: 178.56410, Bid-ask spread: 1.56407, Last trade: 176.00000, 24 hour volume: 239191.81544405, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 177.92292
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Apr 11 04:25:13 <KRS1>	.
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Apr 11 04:38:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2077 @ 0.00070625 = 1.4669 BTC [-]
Apr 11 04:38:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1048 @ 0.00069712 = 0.7306 BTC [-]
Apr 11 04:41:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.77 = 2.31 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 04:46:36 <bgupta>	so curious.. what kind of crack pipe are the gox ks smoking if they think that it's a sign of success that their shitty trading system caused a flashcrash?
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Apr 11 04:53:49 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta they have been pulling that deluded crap pretty much as their signature since 2011.
Apr 11 04:55:00 <bgupta>	they were honest.. but I was like "you are celebrating this".. mmm guess they made a ton of commissions so they were in the mood to celebrate?
Apr 11 04:55:24 <punkman>	do they still take Magic cards?
Apr 11 04:55:57 <punkman>	I should sent them a few boxes via freight
Apr 11 04:56:02 <bgupta>	As far as I know that guy is doing something else now. (Sold the exchange)
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Apr 11 04:59:19 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta honesty apparently means different things to different people.
Apr 11 05:01:20 <bgupta>	they basically said "yay the market crashed because our systems couldn't keep up with demand! we rock!!"
Apr 11 05:02:34 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 11 05:02:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 163.00001, Best ask: 163.38999, Bid-ask spread: 0.38998, Last trade: 163.00000, 24 hour volume: 244646.64497220, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 177.15869
Apr 11 05:03:30 <Scrat>	bgupta: pathetic
Apr 11 05:10:38 <bgupta>	Scrat: Don't know if you read it: https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130411.html
Apr 11 05:11:56 <Scrat>	bgupta: i did, i replied to the forum post
Apr 11 05:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/
Apr 11 05:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	my latest evil.
Apr 11 05:12:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8015 @ 0.00070632 = 5.6612 BTC [+]
Apr 11 05:17:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00149 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 05:17:51 <ZedsterX>	your page not available here MP
Apr 11 05:17:55 <Scrat>	gox is down
Apr 11 05:17:59 <Scrat>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 05:18:12 <ZedsterX>	you getting DDoSed or overload? :)
Apr 11 05:18:23 <kakobrekla>	gox said they were going down
Apr 11 05:18:29 <kakobrekla>	to add more server
Apr 11 05:18:32 <kakobrekla>	cause success
Apr 11 05:18:49 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 11 05:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX gah looking into this
Apr 11 05:19:16 <Scrat>	kakobrekla: he said in the next 12 to 24 hours
Apr 11 05:19:31 <ZedsterX>	no problem after yesterdays crash i can't afford to read your articles :)
Apr 11 05:19:39 <kakobrekla>	maybe they were including goxlag or smth into dat
Apr 11 05:19:40 <Scrat>	right now it's 4 hours after the press release
Apr 11 05:19:43 <Scrat>	lol
Apr 11 05:20:39 <bgupta>	mtgox website down?
Apr 11 05:21:08 <bgupta>	nvm
Apr 11 05:21:56 <dub>	maintenance
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Apr 11 05:22:29 <bgupta>	ok they should do this more often.. I'd be able to get more work done ;)
Apr 11 05:22:34 <dub>	https://www.facebook.com/MtGox?ref=stream
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Apr 11 05:23:26 <bgupta>	Gox has crashed.. gonna sell all my btc for $1 each on otc.. brb...
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Apr 11 05:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	mkay this is a significant increase in ddos.
Apr 11 05:25:20 <ZedsterX>	up now MP
Apr 11 05:25:32 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt they've crashed. i think they got a taste of 200mbps
Apr 11 05:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	okay, everyone get your trades through if you were contemplating anything
Apr 11 05:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	this promises to be a bumpy weekend.
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Apr 11 05:28:06 <Scrat>	my anus is ready
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Apr 11 05:29:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5698 @ 0.00070858 = 4.0375 BTC [+]
Apr 11 05:29:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1652 @ 0.00069712 = 1.1516 BTC [-]
Apr 11 05:31:33 <ZedsterX>	Scrat: TMI
Apr 11 05:31:50 <Namworld>	mircea, I got my trades throught at 230-250 already
Apr 11 05:31:54 <Namworld>	I'm all good
Apr 11 05:32:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 11 05:32:28 <Namworld>	I took a screenshot of clarkmoody at the peak
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Apr 11 05:32:30 <Namworld>	http://i.imgur.com/1uwrLCA.png
Apr 11 05:33:01 <Namworld>	The price rise is almost vertical over a few weeks and totally dwarfs 2011's bubble
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Apr 11 05:34:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol nice screencap
Apr 11 05:35:12 <kakobrekla>	so in 2015 to excpect about 200 to 2000 bubble?
Apr 11 05:35:24 <Namworld>	I was looking at price and the 2011 looked like such a small bump... I thought, I've got to take some money there
Apr 11 05:35:45 <Namworld>	I withdrew funds available on the various exchanges, sent to gox and sold
Apr 11 05:36:05 <Namworld>	Soon after the crash occured.
Apr 11 05:36:10 <Namworld>	I was just in time.
Apr 11 05:36:24 <Namworld>	Too bad the free BTC was only a fraction of my portfolio
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Apr 11 05:38:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29999998 BTC [+]
Apr 11 05:44:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P128T] 1 @ 0.06702997 BTC
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Apr 11 05:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3059 @ 0.00071544 = 2.1885 BTC [+]
Apr 11 05:47:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4346 @ 0.00071567 = 3.1103 BTC [+]
Apr 11 05:49:11 <Scrat>	[12:31] <bit14> @MagicalTux: why exactly would a ddos affect the matching and execution engine?
Apr 11 05:49:11 <Scrat>	[12:31] <@MagicalTux> bit14: overloading system cpu
Apr 11 05:49:11 <Scrat>	[12:31] <@MagicalTux> ddos are not all about cpu
Apr 11 05:49:11 <Scrat>	[12:32] <bit14> @MagicalTux: wouldn't the front end and execution engine be on different machines?
Apr 11 05:49:11 <Scrat>	[12:32] <@MagicalTux> bit14: not yet
Apr 11 05:49:11 <mircea_popescu>	well that's always the case neh ?
Apr 11 05:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 11 05:50:59 <gesell>	;;ticker
Apr 11 05:51:03 <dub>	neamwhile in switzerland https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vsXs3GUrw64#!
Apr 11 05:51:27 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 11 05:51:40 <Diablo-D3>	or not
Apr 11 05:52:01 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 11 05:52:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 146.76500, Best ask: 148.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.23500, Last trade: 143.00000, 24 hour volume: 247104.13417462, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 175.50181
Apr 11 05:52:49 <gesell>	Do you suppose what MagicalTux is talking about are all the massive 0.01 orders?
Apr 11 05:54:29 <gesell>	as i was saying yesterday, if each execution of an order requires gox to recaculate a bunch of things such as your current fee bracket, in addition to properly matching, then mangification at the cpu level is possible. and another argument for throttling oders per second per user until gox finds solutions
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Apr 11 05:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	in the paralel if relative distant universe where tux knows what he's talking about
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Apr 11 05:54:49 <mircea_popescu>	he could in principle be talking about that or anything else.
Apr 11 05:55:03 <taub>	gesell: that is their faulty engine design, and i predicted this like two weeks ago
Apr 11 05:55:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
Apr 11 05:55:21 <taub>	they dont know jack about anything, im tired of the ameteurish nature of all of this :(
Apr 11 05:55:25 <taub>	please jew bankers rescue us
Apr 11 05:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol taub
Apr 11 05:55:46 <gesell>	taub: dont worry, max keiser will save us
Apr 11 05:56:03 <mircea_popescu>	this is where i replug http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/
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Apr 11 05:56:08 <gesell>	im sure he's going to say something big any time now ;)
Apr 11 05:56:20 <Scrat>	at least jew bankers know to isolate their website from their trading system
Apr 11 05:56:47 <taub>	exactly
Apr 11 05:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	well... mpex is the only one doing that, and i ain't jewish
Apr 11 05:57:25 <mircea_popescu>	also i explained what it is and why it should be done, but tards like tux think tjhey know shit
Apr 11 05:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	ie, better than me.
Apr 11 05:57:38 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: thanks for the post. finally someone giving numbers
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Apr 11 05:58:07 <gesell>	yeah, gox should switch to the PGP protocol for all orders :)
Apr 11 05:58:47 <ezdiy>	actually there are sound proposal for true p2p exchanges
Apr 11 05:58:51 <ezdiy>	problem is getting fiat in and out
Apr 11 05:59:01 <taub>	yep
Apr 11 05:59:06 <ezdiy>	you basically need some kind of "jew bankers", and assuming the escrow fraud to manipulate the market
Apr 11 05:59:13 <ezdiy>	its 20% tax on fiat in/out
Apr 11 05:59:23 <ezdiy>	but might be worth to some people
Apr 11 05:59:29 <taub>	maybe ripple can help in this? getting money into the exchanges
Apr 11 05:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	gesell no, just to separate trading engine.
Apr 11 05:59:35 <punkman>	why 20%?
Apr 11 05:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	there's things they can do and things they can't do
Apr 11 05:59:43 <ezdiy>	punkman: ripple.
Apr 11 06:00:12 <ezdiy>	simply, people being anonymous means that 20% of them will turn out to be scumbags
Apr 11 06:00:17 <ezdiy>	and you have to subsidize that
Apr 11 06:00:41 <mircea_popescu>	lol where you got your number from ?
Apr 11 06:00:47 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: chargeback rates
Apr 11 06:00:51 <ezdiy>	on creditcards
Apr 11 06:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	where exactly are chargeback rates 20% ?
Apr 11 06:01:07 <ezdiy>	everywhere
Apr 11 06:01:11 <ezdiy>	thanks to carders
Apr 11 06:01:11 <punkman>	you can't have 20% chargeback rate, they shut you down
Apr 11 06:01:12 <mircea_popescu>	...
Apr 11 06:01:14 <ezdiy>	you oughta know
Apr 11 06:01:17 <ezdiy>	youre romanian :)
Apr 11 06:01:22 <mircea_popescu>	very smart.
Apr 11 06:01:56 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: well, assuming there is ripple for pp/cc
Apr 11 06:02:03 <ezdiy>	we shall assume same chargeback rates
Apr 11 06:02:12 <ezdiy>	ie immense amount of abuse from hacked accounts
Apr 11 06:02:26 <pizzaman1337>	you don't have to get fiat in between p2p exchanges - you could settle in btc
Apr 11 06:02:39 <ezdiy>	pizzaman1337: we're talking btc/fiat exchanges
Apr 11 06:02:42 <mircea_popescu>	there is no system in this world with 20% chargeback rates. either you have a working system and chargebacks are a fraction of a percent
Apr 11 06:02:44 <pizzaman1337>	yeah
Apr 11 06:02:48 <ezdiy>	of course btc/ltc/whatever exchanges can be pure p2p
Apr 11 06:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	or you're fucked, in which they're closer to 100%
Apr 11 06:04:10 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: in average, its supposedly about 20% (cant find the source atm, but i assume you'll get similiar number if you google hard)
Apr 11 06:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	don't assume.
Apr 11 06:11:10 <punkman>	you know what's a fun read, those 500 page Visa PDFs explaining all you ever wanted to know about credit cards
Apr 11 06:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 11 06:11:42 <punkman>	wait, I mean no fun at all
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Apr 11 06:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	"all you never cared to know about idiotic topic #345789348975 and therefore you didn't ever ask"
Apr 11 06:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	should be a book line.
Apr 11 06:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.29999998 = 0.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 06:12:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1226 BTC [+]
Apr 11 06:13:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 60 @ 0.1226 = 7.356 BTC [+]
Apr 11 06:13:25 <punkman>	did I say 500 pages? I meant 1250, http://usa.visa.com/download/merchants/visa-international-operating-regulations-main.pdf
Apr 11 06:13:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.1227 = 1.227 BTC [+]
Apr 11 06:13:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 27 @ 0.1229 = 3.3183 BTC [+]
Apr 11 06:13:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 26 @ 0.124 = 3.224 BTC [+]
Apr 11 06:13:59 <punkman>	http://usa.visa.com/download/merchants/visa_risk_management_guide_ecommerce.pdf
Apr 11 06:14:04 <ezdiy>	hehe
Apr 11 06:14:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 13 @ 0.12966 = 1.6856 BTC [+]
Apr 11 06:14:15 <ezdiy>	and then you have guys like ccbill
Apr 11 06:14:43 <Scrat>	which is mostly bullshit
Apr 11 06:14:44 <punkman>	perhaps you mean 20% attempted frauds
Apr 11 06:14:51 <punkman>	which they don't let through
Apr 11 06:15:15 <Scrat>	I had to do the PCI compliance thing once, had to tick gems such as "- you regularly run antivirus scans on your servers"
Apr 11 06:15:17 <ezdiy>	punkman: we're talking ultimate costs
Apr 11 06:15:32 <ezdiy>	punkman: sure the chargeback dont get through, the fraud rate is like 0.1-3% tops
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Apr 11 06:15:45 <ezdiy>	but actual costs are *much* higher
Apr 11 06:16:15 <ezdiy>	Scrat: lol :)
Apr 11 06:16:17 <punkman>	yes the merchant gets a fine for each chargeback
Apr 11 06:16:23 <MJR_>	hi there
Apr 11 06:16:45 <Namworld>	the merchant shouldn't get the fine...
Apr 11 06:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	yes thery should.
Apr 11 06:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	if i ran visa everyone to ever lose a card would be fined $500
Apr 11 06:17:11 <ezdiy>	they're to motivate to filter out fraudulent customers
Apr 11 06:17:23 <Namworld>	the merchant should get a huge fine IF it is found they frauded someone.
Apr 11 06:17:33 <Namworld>	Oh, from Visa's point of view, sure, they should
Apr 11 06:17:45 <ezdiy>	ie you'll not survive the outrageous fees (supposedly up to $250) if you cant filter abuse
Apr 11 06:17:51 <mircea_popescu>	"Police in New Jersey are on the hunt for the criminal behind the theft of $100,000 of hamburger patties"
Apr 11 06:17:53 <Namworld>	It's the easiest way to tax merchants on handling complaints.
Apr 11 06:17:55 <mircea_popescu>	this to go with the nutella earlier
Apr 11 06:18:27 <Namworld>	damn... nutella/burger patties sandwiches?
Apr 11 06:18:35 <Namworld>	Someone planning a neat diet
Apr 11 06:18:55 <punkman>	or maybe the merchant should fine Visa for letting their cards get stolen
Apr 11 06:18:56 <MJR_>	hi mircea_popescu
Apr 11 06:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	hi MJR_
Apr 11 06:19:46 <MJR_>	nice article
Apr 11 06:19:50 <ezdiy>	punkman: thats what 3d-secure is for
Apr 11 06:19:58 <ezdiy>	never pay with 3d secure :)
Apr 11 06:20:36 <ezdiy>	(its the small print that fraudulent costs are passed on you, since uh, its 3d and secure, thus cant be stolen)
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Apr 11 06:21:10 <MJR_>	;;seen smickles
Apr 11 06:21:11 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 18 hours, 38 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 11 06:21:24 <MJR_>	where has smickles been?
Apr 11 06:21:28 <MJR_>	smickles: hi
Apr 11 06:21:34 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 11 06:21:35 <gesell>	;;ticker
Apr 11 06:21:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00300501 / 0.003289 (23267 shares, 69.92 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00285732 / 0.00333333 (218637 shares, 624.72 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00350541 / 0.00599987 (1764568 shares, 6,185.54 BTC)
Apr 11 06:21:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.50125, Best ask: 141.57000, Bid-ask spread: 1.06875, Last trade: 141.57000, 24 hour volume: 247211.87558680, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 174.53931
Apr 11 06:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ iirc he has a child due
Apr 11 06:21:52 <MJR_>	ah, congrats to him, i hope
Apr 11 06:21:58 <error4733>	Hahaha :  24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000  Welcome in BTCLAND
Apr 11 06:22:11 <mircea_popescu>	i hope that smarted.
Apr 11 06:22:25 <mircea_popescu>	i like that word, it clearly shows what's needed for making people smarter.
Apr 11 06:22:49 <MJR_>	To give you an idea of how impressive things were here are some numbers that we would love to share with you guys: - The number of trades executed tripled in the last 24hrs. - The number of new account opened went from 60k for March alone to 75k new account created for the first few days of April! We now have roughly 20,000 new accounts created each day.
Apr 11 06:22:56 <MJR_>	nice spin?
Apr 11 06:23:02 *	eeeCurrency is now known as boostrapper
Apr 11 06:23:05 <MJR_>	yes, gox, you were very "impressive" yesterday
Apr 11 06:23:08 <error4733>	Mt gox ?
Apr 11 06:23:11 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 11 06:23:19 <MJR_>	this is their "PR" from yesterday
Apr 11 06:23:21 *	boostrapper is now known as bootstrapper
Apr 11 06:23:25 <MJR_>	again, victim of our own success
Apr 11 06:23:35 <MJR_>	cuz obvs they are teh best...l33t
Apr 11 06:23:39 <error4733>	cmon :D stop kidding me before my coffee
Apr 11 06:23:44 <MJR_>	not shitting you
Apr 11 06:23:51 *	bootstrapper is now known as Guest40241
Apr 11 06:23:53 <error4733>	75K for april ? :D
Apr 11 06:23:53 <MJR_>	https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130411.html
Apr 11 06:23:57 <MJR_>	there is article
Apr 11 06:24:00 <MJR_>	fucking hilarious
Apr 11 06:24:01 <ezdiy>	i think mtgox pr money is well spent
Apr 11 06:24:05 <error4733>	almost the same in 2012 ?
Apr 11 06:24:05 <ezdiy>	kudoz to their copywriter
Apr 11 06:24:06 *	Guest40241 is now known as eeeCurrency
Apr 11 06:24:09 <MJR_>	the egos on these guys...
Apr 11 06:24:31 <MJR_>	we were directly responsible for a panic that resulted in a drop of over 50%...we are just that good
Apr 11 06:24:50 <ZedsterX>	MtGox.com ?@MtGox 49m
Apr 11 06:24:51 <ZedsterX>	Maintenance Over however we are now under a DDoS attack.
Apr 11 06:25:10 <ZedsterX>	sorry if thats a repost
Apr 11 06:25:12 <MJR_>	(they actually claim that they caused the panic sale due to how much volume increased)
Apr 11 06:25:13 <error4733>	yep MJT i can't open the link
Apr 11 06:25:28 <MJR_>	LOL, keep reloading it eventually will get there
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Apr 11 06:25:52 <ezdiy>	ZedsterX: translation: maintainance takes much longer than expected, but lets play we're the victim here.
Apr 11 06:26:03 <ZedsterX>	lol
Apr 11 06:26:23 <MJR_>	http://pastebin.com/H4wLsYTi i pastebined it for you guys
Apr 11 06:26:52 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: it is hilarious
Apr 11 06:26:53 <ezdiy>	for two hours in the next 12 to 24hrs
Apr 11 06:26:55 <ezdiy>	see that right there
Apr 11 06:27:03 <ezdiy>	that pr guy could be a politician
Apr 11 06:27:05 <ezdiy>	or a lawyer
Apr 11 06:27:06 <MJR_>	hahaha
Apr 11 06:27:09 <error4733>	thanks MJR
Apr 11 06:27:23 <MJR_>	yes, most of you now think of getting screwed as getting "goxxed" but i can make this look good
Apr 11 06:27:29 <mircea_popescu>	idjits
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Apr 11 06:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ thanks. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/its-been-an-epic-few-days-what-happened/#comment-92701
Apr 11 06:29:15 <mircea_popescu>	i've added it for the ages.
Apr 11 06:29:16 <ZedsterX>	it is kinda funny that on gox's twitter they say don't panic network maintance then 8 minutes later we are under ddos
Apr 11 06:30:11 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX it's not lieing if you say stuff that's not true
Apr 11 06:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	it's just pr. right ?
Apr 11 06:30:30 <ZedsterX>	bad pr is good pr
Apr 11 06:30:50 <ZedsterX>	ask bFL :)
Apr 11 06:31:16 <ZedsterX>	they must happy with the spot moved a bit
Apr 11 06:31:20 <ZedsterX>	light*
Apr 11 06:31:42 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: i think the phrase is "wording"
Apr 11 06:31:52 <ezdiy>	gox is just wording us
Apr 11 06:32:01 <ZedsterX>	word
Apr 11 06:32:03 <ZedsterX>	hehe
Apr 11 06:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 11 06:33:27 <ezdiy>	maybe bitcoin will transition from cult of getrichquick to cult of personality
Apr 11 06:33:46 <ezdiy>	kinda like max kaiser being the jesus preaching light of tomorrow, and mircea_popescu the evil guy
Apr 11 06:33:52 <mircea_popescu>	o gawd.
Apr 11 06:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	do you know how many jesuses we've had to date ?
Apr 11 06:34:16 <ZedsterX>	MP isn't god?
Apr 11 06:34:41 <ZedsterX>	now i'm really confused
Apr 11 06:34:57 <mircea_popescu>	i used to be but i was just not very good at it.
Apr 11 06:35:08 <ezdiy>	ZedsterX: bad guy
Apr 11 06:35:13 <ezdiy>	preaching bad things for bitcoin
Apr 11 06:35:20 <ezdiy>	but a lot of followers apparently
Apr 11 06:35:25 <ezdiy>	max kaiser the polar opossite
Apr 11 06:36:00 <ZedsterX>	well couldn't have done any worse the current person on that throne
Apr 11 06:36:01 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, keiser is the polar opposite, inasmuch as clues go.
Apr 11 06:36:09 <ezdiy>	the resemblance of bitcoin to religious cults is certainly here
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Apr 11 06:40:53 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 11 06:41:04 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 11 06:41:28 <ezdiy>	gribble, dont beat the dead horse
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Apr 11 06:48:22 <KRS1>	mornin gribble
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Apr 11 06:52:24 <deadweasel>	price what, around 140?
Apr 11 06:52:32 <deadweasel>	morning all ;)
Apr 11 06:52:58 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/
Apr 11 06:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	my friendly evil psa service.
Apr 11 06:53:14 <deadweasel>	ah thx
Apr 11 06:54:34 <error4733>	118$
Apr 11 06:55:23 <error4733>	118€*... my bad,  yes it's 140
Apr 11 06:55:57 <KRS1>	lol great article
Apr 11 06:56:17 <KRS1>	i bet many a rectum are sore this morning
Apr 11 06:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	good.
Apr 11 06:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	that's the true sign of a good fucking.
Apr 11 06:57:52 <KRS1>	the kind that stinks afterwards
Apr 11 06:57:56 <deadweasel>	great post.  have your readers increased in the last few months?  any data on that?
Apr 11 06:58:39 <kakobrekla>	12:58.00 ( coinmaster ) [Stamp] BTC 75.000 USD (-63.990 USD)
Apr 11 06:58:43 <kakobrekla>	now
Apr 11 06:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel i don't really keep very close track
Apr 11 06:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla buy!
Apr 11 06:59:44 <kakobrekla>	too late this time
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Apr 11 07:04:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 11 07:05:12 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 11 07:06:14 <kakobrekla>	fud ? http://pastebin.com/j9VZxYA9
Apr 11 07:08:19 <KRS1>	uhh..
Apr 11 07:09:12 <Scrat>	looking at the emails, probably
Apr 11 07:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ohohohoh
Apr 11 07:09:31 <gesell>	total fud
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Apr 11 07:10:21 <kakobrekla>	like 140 aint cheap enough
Apr 11 07:12:14 <gesell>	anyone done whale watching on the orderbooks recently?
Apr 11 07:13:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i can tell ya change password is broken in gox right now
Apr 11 07:13:49 <error4733>	emails list from 2011 hack !? #itspossiblyascam
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Apr 11 07:15:58 <taub>	i think its kinda funny how butthurt lew rockwell is about bitcoin
Apr 11 07:16:08 <taub>	or that he doesnt take it seriously
Apr 11 07:16:16 <taub>	well time will come :(
Apr 11 07:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	if anyone want to contribute to the 1btc fund 1KSHjG4etUA1gBdpKRecoRbmxv4N2TLyFM
Apr 11 07:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	ima send them the brain wallet and publish the results.
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Apr 11 07:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	um wtf
Apr 11 07:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	is brainwallet broken ?!
Apr 11 07:19:51 <ThickAsThieves>	that addy doesnt work
Apr 11 07:19:55 <KRS1>	mircea popescu did call it spot on..for a while now. sure goes along with what i've mostly noticed in life: too much of a good thing is usually not a "good thing".
Apr 11 07:20:13 <mircea_popescu>	wtf,
Apr 11 07:20:19 <error4733>	can u double check the address ?
Apr 11 07:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	i just generated it in brain wallet.
Apr 11 07:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	is the site broken ?
Apr 11 07:20:30 <gesell>	mtgox might just be ddos'ing themselves so that all that new fiat coming into the exchange via wire for new users that wont want to spend it on btc anymore can be put in a low interest bank account by gox to make them rich
Apr 11 07:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://brainwallet.org/
Apr 11 07:20:43 <gesell>	;)
Apr 11 07:21:23 <error4733>	brainwallet doesnt work with Porn relative password MP
Apr 11 07:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	ok i can't get a usable address with brainwallet.org. all the addies it outputs are broken
Apr 11 07:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	anyone know an alternative ?
Apr 11 07:22:00 <ThickAsThieves>	https://www.bitaddress.org/bitaddress.org-v2.4-SHA1-1d5951f6a04dd5a287ac925da4e626870ee58d60.html
Apr 11 07:22:17 <ThickAsThieves>	or, just the domain
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Apr 11 07:23:17 <ThickAsThieves>	hmm did i just give some indentifer up?
Apr 11 07:23:43 <error4733>	no
Apr 11 07:24:01 <ThickAsThieves>	what is this? 1d5951f6a04dd5a287ac925da4e626870ee58d60
Apr 11 07:24:04 <error4733>	its the SH1
Apr 11 07:24:06 <mircea_popescu>	13M1JEPDnSGLKMXXzGDSSQUuzqQwvsrVYS
Apr 11 07:24:10 <mircea_popescu>	fuck this doesn't workl either
Apr 11 07:24:20 <error4733>	when you DL the wep page to make paper wallet offline
Apr 11 07:24:23 <ThickAsThieves>	probly just uses brainwallet.org
Apr 11 07:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	12bASRScqN1StAzbWxqSUtqKWKZK9nfHgY
Apr 11 07:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	not a single address i generate works. what the fuck is this ?!
Apr 11 07:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	did someone change the algo ?
Apr 11 07:24:48 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe thats the anonymous joke
Apr 11 07:24:50 <error4733>	you need to make the sum, to see if its the right
Apr 11 07:24:53 <error4733>	hahaha
Apr 11 07:24:53 <ThickAsThieves>	they hacked brain wallet
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Apr 11 07:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	for fucks sake ?!
Apr 11 07:26:29 <error4733>	work for me
Apr 11 07:26:46 <error4733>	1HiZZ1YbP6tBgEXvo1RMs3jWfbBswq7Yeg
Apr 11 07:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if my js is broken
Apr 11 07:27:14 <ThickAsThieves>	plz confirm working address we arepooling in
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Apr 11 07:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 pm me the sikrit for that one
Apr 11 07:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	ill email it
Apr 11 07:28:25 <pgp>	morning - more volatility overnight i see...
Apr 11 07:28:34 <error4733>	mine was un test !! dont send any money
Apr 11 07:28:39 <pgp>	mp: nice PSA
Apr 11 07:28:42 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 but srsly make me one.
Apr 11 07:28:56 <mircea_popescu>	pgp i like you spell volatility right. it's so rare
Apr 11 07:29:00 <pgp>	if only people would listen
Apr 11 07:29:10 <pgp>	lol
Apr 11 07:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	the beauty of bitcoin : nobody has to listen.
Apr 11 07:29:44 <mircea_popescu>	as long as they can afford to pay all fines bitcoin may throw at them for it.
Apr 11 07:30:20 <KRS1>	lol
Apr 11 07:30:23 <mircea_popescu>	1Pbfdh8ECrhEtVx3m1oeFAfUFG7NoQUKqr << address.
Apr 11 07:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	i sent a btc.
Apr 11 07:32:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 681 @ 0.00070306 = 0.4788 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 07:32:54 <MJR_>	yep
Apr 11 07:32:57 <MJR_>	that is how i see it
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Apr 11 07:33:23 <MJR_>	there is nothing anyone "should" do, they do whatever they want...the market sorts it out, but there are smarter and dumber things to do
Apr 11 07:33:48 <MJR_>	if you look at it from the "i kan haz monies" perspective
Apr 11 07:34:26 <error4733>	NO WAIT
Apr 11 07:35:21 <error4733>	http://pastebin.com/Kd093NQi
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Apr 11 07:36:29 <ThickAsThieves>	heheh i'm confused, is money still needed for anonymous wallet?
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Apr 11 07:37:12 <pigeons>	i guess not for an empty wallet
Apr 11 07:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves never was needed. just, if anyone wanted to add
Apr 11 07:37:25 <mircea_popescu>	i already sent a btc.
Apr 11 07:37:29 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Apr 11 07:37:43 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like its already out
Apr 11 07:38:31 <mircea_popescu>	what is ?
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Apr 11 07:39:31 <ThickAsThieves>	that pastebin isnt?
Apr 11 07:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea.
Apr 11 07:40:04 <ThickAsThieves>	none of those passes work
Apr 11 07:40:11 <ThickAsThieves>	or do they need to be decrypted?
Apr 11 07:40:59 <gesell>	how to whale watch the asks on the orderbook:
Apr 11 07:41:02 <gesell>	curl -s  https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/depth/full | python -c 'import sys,json;data=json.loads(sys.stdin.read()); print data["data"]["bids"]' | awk -v RS='{' '{print}' | tr -d '[]{}' | egrep "price_int': u'[1-9][0-9][0-9]{6}'," | egrep "amount': [1-9][0-9]{3}\." | awk '{print $2 $5 $6 $9 $10}' | sed "s/u'/ /g" | sed "s/[',]//g" | sort -n | cut -b 2-11 -b 18- && date +%s
Apr 11 07:43:26 <pgp>	anybody know how the ticker on #bitcoin-market works?  seems like the most reliable ticker out there, no?
Apr 11 07:44:32 <sturles>	Right..  You know it would be simpler to just use python for all of this?  Or awk?  At least give both sed commands to the first instance, instead of forking twice just for that!
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Apr 11 07:46:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+]
Apr 11 07:46:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7699 BTC [+]
Apr 11 07:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	those are actually good points.
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Apr 11 07:48:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
Apr 11 07:48:41 <Scrat>	pgp: it pulls data from bitcoincharts
Apr 11 07:49:14 <gesell>	sturles: feel free to change it. i just got lazy and actually executing python from the command line was total hell to figure out. (cant really do a "if-else" on it)
Apr 11 07:50:11 <Scrat>	the joy of significant whitespace languages
Apr 11 07:50:30 <pgp>	so bitcoincharts api was unaffected yesterday?  really?
Apr 11 07:51:09 <pgp>	seems like many others realy in bitcoincharts were hosed yesterday...
Apr 11 07:51:10 <Scrat>	well why not, it's static data and you can cache it effectively
Apr 11 07:51:19 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 11 07:51:24 <Scrat>	it went down a few times
Apr 11 07:51:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 162.13873, Best ask: 163.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.86127, Last trade: 162.13873, 24 hour volume: 247191.76866132, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 172.81754
Apr 11 07:52:27 <gesell>	Scrat:could always revert to perl but then i'd probably start puking involuntarily
Apr 11 07:53:19 <pgp>	anyone know of a historical repository for this data that doesn't require me to grab individual exchange json's from bitcoincharts for tiny intervals that won't return most of the time anyway?
Apr 11 07:53:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
Apr 11 07:54:19 <EskimoBob>	http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/04/10/215227/bitcoin-value-collapses-possibly-due-to-ddos . /. readers do not like btc much
Apr 11 07:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	pgp it was down for half the day
Apr 11 07:54:45 <pgp>	right, that's what I thought, but #bitcoin-market seemed to be chugging along...
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Apr 11 07:59:04 <EskimoBob>	pgp: where do you see mtgox orderbook if you log in? I have not visited the site for ages. I loged in last week and looks like it's gone :)
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Apr 11 08:01:39 <pgp>	eskimobob - orderbook is only avail through api...  go to clarkmoody.com to see it
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Apr 11 08:04:40 <TradeFortress>	coinbr withdraws comes directly from mpex?
Apr 11 08:05:05 <TradeFortress>	EskimoBob, you can also trade $0.001 USD via API but not via site :P
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Apr 11 08:09:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1019 BTC [-]
Apr 11 08:10:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 3000
Apr 11 08:10:44 <gribble>	A market order to sell 3000 bitcoins right now would net 437428.6661 USD and would take the last price down to 140.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 145.8096 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 74.3326 seconds
Apr 11 08:11:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --buy 3000
Apr 11 08:11:19 <gribble>	A market order to buy 3000 bitcoins right now would take 508573.6610 USD and would take the last price up to 174.9900 USD, resulting in an average price of 169.5246 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 108.0862 seconds
Apr 11 08:14:12 <unbalanced>	MP, other assembled Brainiacs... Is the only alternative to Mt. Gox to switching to other traditional (centralized) exchanges, one of which will swell to 80% eventually? Or is decentralized exchange somehow possible?
Apr 11 08:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced localbitcoins for instance.
Apr 11 08:14:38 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, what's the volume on localbitcoins anyway?
Apr 11 08:14:41 <unbalanced>	Yeah, OTC, localbitcoins...
Apr 11 08:14:48 <mircea_popescu>	also otc is a good choice.
Apr 11 08:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	i don't honestly think we need much more or anything other than this.
Apr 11 08:15:02 <mircea_popescu>	person to person bitcoin.
Apr 11 08:15:25 <unbalanced>	...says the guy who expects users to grok commandline gpg
Apr 11 08:15:39 <unbalanced>	That's fine for a subset of users.
Apr 11 08:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	i don't expect users to grok commandline gpg.
Apr 11 08:15:58 <mircea_popescu>	i expect people who don't to have somebody who does do their investi9ng for them.
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Apr 11 08:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	something along the lines of, "if you're too drunk to stand no way you're driving"
Apr 11 08:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	even if driving is kinda cool and everything.
Apr 11 08:16:28 <unbalanced>	agreed
Apr 11 08:16:45 <mircea_popescu>	and even if you drive seated not standing
Apr 11 08:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	and even if everything else.
Apr 11 08:17:18 <unbalanced>	Putting bitcoin stocks/bonds/options aside for a sec, if I just think of buying and selling bitcoins P2P... How do we put a web interface on distributed trust?
Apr 11 08:17:31 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php
Apr 11 08:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	like that ?
Apr 11 08:17:38 <TradeFortress>	lol
Apr 11 08:19:25 <unbalanced>	That is an excellent start... but only a start. I guess that's the logical one to build on though.
Apr 11 08:20:46 <unbalanced>	e.g. have the bids and the asks up like a "normal" exchange but when you transact, you're not trading on an exchange, you're dealing direct with the counterparty after vetting their WOT rating, etc.
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Apr 11 08:21:31 <TradeFortress>	unbalanced, wont work because some payment methods have higher premiums
Apr 11 08:21:43 <TradeFortress>	could do one for each payment method through
Apr 11 08:21:46 <unbalanced>	(and the dudes selling code or the gambling links are tucked aside into other tabs)
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Apr 11 08:22:15 <unbalanced>	Who runs bitcoin-otc?
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Apr 11 08:22:46 <TradeFortress>	nanotube
Apr 11 08:23:02 <unbalanced>	I see the orderbook is JSON, that's good
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Apr 11 08:26:30 <unbalanced>	What do you guys think of Ripple? Does it accomplish this?
Apr 11 08:26:33 <gesell>	HOLY SHIT
Apr 11 08:26:47 <gesell>	wtf is this order on the ask book: u'stamp': u'1360289097384960', u'amount_int': u'100000000', u'price': 13370133701337, u'price_int': u'1337013370133700096', u'amount': 1
Apr 11 08:27:31 <Scrat>	its a leet order
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Apr 11 08:28:15 <gesell>	this is some strange shit. orderboook flipping out sometimes
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Apr 11 08:29:22 <gesell>	i guess its normal actually
Apr 11 08:29:35 <gesell>	a user could say they want to sell for 133713371337.00 USD
Apr 11 08:30:09 <unbalanced>	Gox would probably fill it under conditions like yesterday
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Apr 11 08:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.29999998 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Apr 11 08:31:22 <jurov>	iirc bitcoin.de works that way
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Apr 11 08:34:56 <deadweasel>	unbalanced: go build a tabbed version.  tabs for payment method, tabs for gambling, dev for hire, etc...
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Apr 11 08:36:07 <pizzaman1337>	15.6k bets unaccounted for with S.DICE? uh oh...
Apr 11 08:36:17 <mjr_>	huh?
Apr 11 08:36:25 <pizzaman1337>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1799509#msg1799509
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Apr 11 08:39:08 <TradeFortress>	Yeah.
Apr 11 08:39:57 <unbalanced>	Are they being DDOS'd?
Apr 11 08:40:49 <pizzaman1337>	I don't think that's possible, the severs that handle the transactions aren't public-facing, right?
Apr 11 08:41:04 <Diablo-D3>	lol
Apr 11 08:41:12 <Diablo-D3>	sdice probably ran out of money
Apr 11 08:41:17 <Diablo-D3>	time to sell your stock
Apr 11 08:41:42 <unbalanced>	"Fire! Run for the exits..."
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Apr 11 08:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	looking at that list pizzaman1337 it seems they mostly have profits ?
Apr 11 08:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	i see 10k, 13k 16k etc
Apr 11 08:45:25 <mjr_>	yep
Apr 11 08:45:33 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, it seems pretty clear that the problem is not that they ran out of money
Apr 11 08:45:34 <mjr_>	time to sell everyone, who cares the price
Apr 11 08:45:40 <mjr_>	sell sell sell
Apr 11 08:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	 1dice97EC 17041.91  1dice8EMZ  18319.23  etc
Apr 11 08:46:23 <mjr_>	shhh, no facts right now...i want to pick up sdice at .001 ;)
Apr 11 08:46:32 <mircea_popescu>	or are those cumulative all time ?
Apr 11 08:48:20 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: So are you going to tweak the mpoebot so it doesn't sell calls for over 1BTC?
Apr 11 08:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	prolly just take out those lines next month.
Apr 11 08:48:46 <mircea_popescu>	if it wants to charge over 1 btc per who am i to argue.
Apr 11 08:49:10 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 11 08:49:11 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 170.11
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Apr 11 08:49:42 <Bugpowder>	maybe I will undercut the bot and sell for 1.05
Apr 11 08:49:56 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a plan.
Apr 11 08:50:17 <mjr_>	hahaha
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Apr 11 08:54:16 <deadweasel>	i must say, it was very nice to have the passthroughs operating normally yesterday.
Apr 11 08:54:52 <deadweasel>	i don't know how they did....  jurov, where did you get your vwap yesterday?
Apr 11 08:55:19 <ThickAsThieves>	mpex i assume
Apr 11 08:56:11 <deadweasel>	i thought bought was not serving an $avg
Apr 11 08:56:24 <deadweasel>	at least after noon EST
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Apr 11 08:57:30 <bitesak>	it was sometimes
Apr 11 08:57:44 <bitesak>	but you had to get in relatively early
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Apr 11 08:58:58 <kakobrekla>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c4lqr/iama_algorithmic_and_high_frequency_trading/
Apr 11 08:59:06 <kakobrekla>	could be bull
Apr 11 08:59:28 <kakobrekla>	bull as in bullshit not bull
Apr 11 08:59:36 <Bugpowder>	To my best knowledge, every firm with an algorithmic/HFT division has presence in multiple Bitcoin exchanges.
Apr 11 08:59:43 <Bugpowder>	that part is buttshit
Apr 11 08:59:55 <Bugpowder>	every firm with HFT doesn't give a shit about bitcoin
Apr 11 09:00:02 <kakobrekla>	i havent even read it through
Apr 11 09:00:10 <Bugpowder>	I read enough
Apr 11 09:00:24 <kakobrekla>	:>
Apr 11 09:00:24 <jurov>	deadweasel, coinbr caches its wvap for some period if bitcoincharts returns an error
Apr 11 09:00:37 <Bugpowder>	probably interned somewhere
Apr 11 09:00:42 <Bugpowder>	wants to stir some shit
Apr 11 09:00:48 <deadweasel>	i see.  well, cheers to caching!
Apr 11 09:01:16 <kakobrekla>	well the part that bother me most is 1h lag and hft
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Apr 11 09:01:30 <kakobrekla>	more like sft
Apr 11 09:01:52 <deadweasel>	^  yeah, i don't see how anything in btc could be considered HFT...
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Apr 11 09:02:17 <gesell>	current version of whale_watchers script:
Apr 11 09:02:19 <deadweasel>	the infrastructure to do so successfully doesn't seem to exist yet...
Apr 11 09:02:29 <gesell>	$ whale_watchers.sh bids
Apr 11 09:02:29 <gesell>	goxlag 4.207002 seconds
Apr 11 09:02:29 <gesell>	1365641026 price:110.20001 amount:1179.6732
Apr 11 09:02:29 <gesell>	1365679001 price:132.77758 amount:2011.6502
Apr 11 09:02:29 <gesell>	1365684834 price:130 amount:1172.13926341
Apr 11 09:02:30 <gesell>	1365684902 price:120 amount:1866.58691101
Apr 11 09:02:30 <gesell>	1365684937 price:100 amount:1129.38763907
Apr 11 09:02:31 <gesell>	1365685100 price:110 amount:1595.50795395
Apr 11 09:02:31 <gesell>	1365685337  edge:144.4/146.5
Apr 11 09:02:33 <gesell>	oh damnit sorry
Apr 11 09:02:41 <gesell>	forgot we dont have \n in these parts
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Apr 11 09:03:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7541 = 1.5082 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 09:05:32 <mircea_popescu>	<Bugpowder> every firm with HFT doesn't give a shit about bitcoin <<< ya well, kids and clues seldom meet.
Apr 11 09:07:11 <mircea_popescu>	According to a Businessweek source, Foursquare netted just $2 million in revenue in 2012
Apr 11 09:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	lmao.
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Apr 11 09:07:42 <mircea_popescu>	satoshi dice made what, 70k btc.
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Apr 11 09:09:08 <pizzaman1337>	was that it? gosh
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Apr 11 09:09:49 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 11 09:09:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.81830, Best ask: 146.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.18170, Last trade: 146.00000, 24 hour volume: 247441.18891750, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 259.98000, 24 hour vwap: 169.88239
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Apr 11 09:10:16 <lippoper>	;;seen krs1
Apr 11 09:10:16 <gribble>	krs1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 39 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <KRS1> lol
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Apr 11 09:10:56 <unbalanced>	jurov: ah, bitcoin.de is exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of, thanks!
Apr 11 09:11:09 <lippoper>	;;seen krs-1
Apr 11 09:11:09 <gribble>	krs-1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 3 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <KRS-1> this would be a scotch day
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Apr 11 09:11:27 <unbalanced>	I saw that a year or so ago and forgot.
Apr 11 09:12:07 <unbalanced>	Well, it's close. Still acts as a trustee... hrm.
Apr 11 09:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29999998 BTC [+]
Apr 11 09:15:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
Apr 11 09:15:58 <joecool>	!GOXLAG
Apr 11 09:16:05 <lippoper>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 09:16:06 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 49.296595 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0987898244278 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
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Apr 11 09:18:01 <unbalanced>	jurov: the bitcoinforums.com SMF Trader System stuff, feedback, etc... is P2P exchange the idea of that too?
Apr 11 09:18:19 <unbalanced>	er, bitcoinforum.com
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Apr 11 09:19:17 <unbalanced>	You may want to snag the plural of that domain and redirect it to the singular. Assuming it's your site... I can't keep track of all you guys.
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Apr 11 09:20:54 <joecool>	hm
Apr 11 09:20:56 <joecool>	!ping
Apr 11 09:20:56 <Smoovious>	!pong
Apr 11 09:21:00 <joecool>	;;ping
Apr 11 09:21:00 <gribble>	pong
Apr 11 09:21:02 <joecool>	k
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Apr 11 09:23:22 <jurov>	unbalanced idk, ask them directly
Apr 11 09:23:25 <jurov>	cya later
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Apr 11 09:24:52 <ThickAsThieves>	does $avg show the confident vwap that mpex options works from?
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Apr 11 09:25:07 <lippoper>	$avg
Apr 11 09:25:09 <mpexbot>	lippoper: 167.53
Apr 11 09:25:16 <taub>	just hit 111 on btce
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Apr 11 09:25:33 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 11 09:25:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.00000, Best ask: 126.90000, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 129.00000, 24 hour volume: 257385.98098882, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 259.00000, 24 hour vwap: 167.96454
Apr 11 09:26:26 <ThickAsThieves>	mircea_popescu does $avg show the confident vwap that mpex options works from?
Apr 11 09:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 11 09:26:30 <gribble>	167.53
Apr 11 09:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	$avg
Apr 11 09:26:34 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 167.53
Apr 11 09:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	seems so yes
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Apr 11 09:27:17 <lippoper>	it's at 130 on gox
Apr 11 09:27:22 <lippoper>	err 120
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Apr 11 09:28:18 <KRS-1>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 09:28:19 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 142.335422 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.285238592021 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
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Apr 11 09:30:28 <KRS-1>	the f-
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Apr 11 09:32:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Apr 11 09:33:08 <ThickAsThieves>	100 on btc, 140 on bitfloor
Apr 11 09:34:10 <error4733>	on the way to 65$
Apr 11 09:34:25 <error4733>	end of march price
Apr 11 09:34:53 <error4733>	just a nice april fool for 10 days
Apr 11 09:35:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm skeptical
Apr 11 09:36:15 <error4733>	;;goxlax didnt help
Apr 11 09:36:16 <gribble>	Error: "goxlax" is not a valid command.
Apr 11 09:36:24 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 09:36:26 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 268.171906 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.537413497022 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 11 09:36:38 <wao>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 09:36:39 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 282.241931 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.565609669586 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 11 09:37:04 <mircea_popescu>	65 may be a little understated
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Apr 11 09:38:07 <ThickAsThieves>	you mean you think itll go lower?
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Apr 11 09:38:18 <Bugpowder>	WAT?
Apr 11 09:38:24 <Bugpowder>	is that bad print on the volume?
Apr 11 09:38:26 <Bugpowder>	or real
Apr 11 09:38:41 <Bugpowder>	57,000 BTC sell?
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Apr 11 09:39:53 <KRS-1>	oh jeez
Apr 11 09:40:05 <error4733>	where :'(
Apr 11 09:40:13 <taub>	mtgox
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Apr 11 09:40:31 <taub>	I dont know why it didnt take down price further
Apr 11 09:40:42 <Bugpowder>	look at the 1 minute
Apr 11 09:40:52 <Bugpowder>	slow 20k dump
Apr 11 09:40:55 <Bugpowder>	then a 20k buy
Apr 11 09:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.29999998 = 1.2 BTC [+]
Apr 11 09:41:05 <KRS-1>	wow
Apr 11 09:41:13 <Bugpowder>	nobody actually saw these trades?
Apr 11 09:41:15 <KRS-1>	did it bottom yet
Apr 11 09:41:20 <taub>	how can i see these
Apr 11 09:41:21 <Scrat>	wall 120 done
Apr 11 09:41:25 <taub>	when websocket is down
Apr 11 09:41:27 <taub>	:|
Apr 11 09:41:44 <taub>	all this incompetence leaves so much room for conspiracies lol
Apr 11 09:41:48 <taub>	+theories
Apr 11 09:42:09 <gesell>	whales are gone almost
Apr 11 09:42:12 <gesell>	no support
Apr 11 09:42:47 <taub>	what feed do you watch Bugpowder
Apr 11 09:42:53 <taub>	clarkmoody working smoothly for you?
Apr 11 09:44:00 <gesell>	Bugpowder: where did you see this?
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Apr 11 09:44:21 <error4733>	http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/widget/chart/
Apr 11 09:44:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P122T] 1000 @ 0.07047095 = 70.471 BTC
Apr 11 09:44:43 <taub>	@MagicalTux> [22:43:25] <n5> pu everything into ram and everything will be ok <- new db serv has 128GB ram
Apr 11 09:44:46 <taub>	overkill
Apr 11 09:44:49 <KRS-1>	wheres the bottom
Apr 11 09:44:57 <taub>	write shit software, buy more hardware
Apr 11 09:45:01 <taub>	but at least they are doing SOMETHING
Apr 11 09:45:16 <TomServo>	yup
Apr 11 09:45:18 <TomServo>	@MagicalTux | Ad0: sweating right now
Apr 11 09:45:20 <Scrat>	entire db fits in 1 GB
Apr 11 09:45:26 <Scrat>	buy 128 GB, that oughta solve it
Apr 11 09:45:29 <Scrat>	derp derp herp
Apr 11 09:45:37 <taub>	very nice error4733
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Apr 11 09:46:33 <Bugpowder>	its on clark moody
Apr 11 09:46:40 <Bugpowder>	no feeds are working well for me again
Apr 11 09:47:00 <leotreasure>	#bitcoin-RT
Apr 11 09:47:07 <Bugpowder>	Got filled at 121
Apr 11 09:47:15 <Bugpowder>	(buy)
Apr 11 09:47:20 <ThickAsThieves>	me too
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Apr 11 09:47:27 <Bugpowder>	hedging with puts
Apr 11 09:47:33 <ThickAsThieves>	next floor is at 110
Apr 11 09:47:41 <ThickAsThieves>	then 101
Apr 11 09:48:03 <damientrog>	what puts are you buying?
Apr 11 09:48:07 <ThickAsThieves>	could be a very volatile day
Apr 11 09:48:11 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 11 09:48:12 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 165.16
Apr 11 09:48:16 <Bugpowder>	cheap ones
Apr 11 09:50:03 <taub>	112, 10% spread
Apr 11 09:50:05 <taub>	state
Apr 11 09:50:33 <KRS-1>	what effect does this have on btc-e when i try to buy btc there..seems like price is behind about 10 mins..but lower in price than the charts report
Apr 11 09:50:35 <gesell>	two 2k whales holding at 110&100, two others at 140&180
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Apr 11 09:51:33 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 11 09:51:35 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 165.16
Apr 11 09:53:01 <KRS-1>	is it going up yet
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Apr 11 09:53:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1275 @ 0.0029486 = 3.7595 BTC [+]
Apr 11 09:54:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P134T] 30 @ 0.25 = 7.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 09:56:38 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 11 09:56:42 <ThickAsThieves>	112
Apr 11 09:57:02 <KRS-1>	time to make some money girls
Apr 11 09:57:13 <ThickAsThieves>	wheres the bot?
Apr 11 09:57:14 <Scrat>	cant see that 110 floor lasting for long
Apr 11 09:57:14 <KRS-1>	so like..i can buy at $108 on btc-e
Apr 11 09:57:15 <EskimoBob>	;;ticker
Apr 11 09:57:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.13545, Best ask: 118.80000, Bid-ask spread: 4.66455, Last trade: 118.80000, 24 hour volume: 264889.76286140, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 258.50000, 24 hour vwap: 164.91260
Apr 11 09:57:24 <KRS-1>	scrat: meaning up or down from there?
Apr 11 09:57:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00322 = 0.322 BTC [-]
Apr 11 09:57:33 <EskimoBob>	look like this party i over
Apr 11 09:57:50 <Bugpowder>	home back bot
Apr 11 09:57:54 <Bugpowder>	come back
Apr 11 09:58:09 <Scrat>	KRS-1: south
Apr 11 09:58:56 <ThickAsThieves>	cmon bot
Apr 11 09:59:00 <mjr_>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 09:59:03 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 486.069431 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.974077697419 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 11 09:59:09 <Bugpowder>	bot always goes down when you need it
Apr 11 09:59:17 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Apr 11 09:59:19 <ThickAsThieves>	118
Apr 11 09:59:22 <Scrat>	yeah that 128 GB sure helped, lol
Apr 11 09:59:23 <Bugpowder>	lucky I got some
Apr 11 09:59:27 <lippoper>	how low will it og?
Apr 11 09:59:33 <lippoper>	how low will it go?
Apr 11 09:59:43 <ThickAsThieves>	gox's claims are all bullshit
Apr 11 09:59:44 <Bugpowder>	probably the bottom
Apr 11 09:59:45 <Bugpowder>	:)
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Apr 11 10:00:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i really hope someone starts aggresively buying
Apr 11 10:00:48 <ThickAsThieves>	asks are so thin
Apr 11 10:01:01 <KRS-1>	people are greedy..they just waiting.
Apr 11 10:01:05 <Bugpowder>	I am trying to get filled
Apr 11 10:01:25 <KRS-1>	lets hope for $65
Apr 11 10:01:34 <Bugpowder>	I got bids all the way down
Apr 11 10:02:10 <taub>	i dont think we're gonna get below 50
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Apr 11 10:02:18 <taub>	but 100-70 seems likely
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Apr 11 10:02:24 <ThickAsThieves>	111.50
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Apr 11 10:03:07 <ThickAsThieves>	gox website hanging
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Apr 11 10:03:30 <taub>	1:1 extention of the first downmove lands it at $29
Apr 11 10:03:31 <taub>	oh boy
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Apr 11 10:03:50 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont know what that means
Apr 11 10:04:26 <wao>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 10:04:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 506.639759 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.01530040441 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 11 10:05:07 <Guest54898>	fear the reaper...
Apr 11 10:05:25 <ThickAsThieves>	bitocin charts is working
Apr 11 10:05:29 <ThickAsThieves>	bot is not
Apr 11 10:05:32 <ThickAsThieves>	soooooo?
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Apr 11 10:06:05 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 11 10:06:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.80000, Best ask: 122.98700, Bid-ask spread: 4.18700, Last trade: 122.98700, 24 hour volume: 267142.03759412, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 258.50000, 24 hour vwap: 164.36507
Apr 11 10:06:12 <KRS-1>	keeps going up eh
Apr 11 10:06:41 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 11 10:06:43 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 165.16
Apr 11 10:07:13 <taub>	are you expecting a rapid change?
Apr 11 10:07:14 <ThickAsThieves>	oh geez, check this out
Apr 11 10:07:16 <taub>	you keep doing that
Apr 11 10:07:18 <ThickAsThieves>	on gox
Apr 11 10:07:22 <ThickAsThieves>	"Market cooldown, order placing suspended until 2013-04-12 11:00:00 UTC"
Apr 11 10:07:48 <ThickAsThieves>	wtf is that shit
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Apr 11 10:07:57 <ThickAsThieves>	where were they yesterday
Apr 11 10:08:01 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 11 10:08:01 <KRS-1>	more sells after that im sure
Apr 11 10:08:23 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha whaT!
Apr 11 10:08:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not joking
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Apr 11 10:09:07 <deadweasel>	WOW
Apr 11 10:09:09 <taub>	well
Apr 11 10:09:10 <taub>	at least
Apr 11 10:09:12 <deadweasel>	wow
Apr 11 10:09:14 <taub>	mtgox is killing itself
Apr 11 10:09:16 <taub>	better than any ddos
Apr 11 10:09:23 <pizzaman1337>	self dos
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Apr 11 10:09:28 <Scrat>	ahahahahah
Apr 11 10:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 11 10:09:31 <ThickAsThieves>	what. the. fuck.
Apr 11 10:09:33 <taub>	you gox'd it
Apr 11 10:09:37 <gesell>	this is exxcellent
Apr 11 10:09:38 <Scrat>	shadenfreude
Apr 11 10:09:40 <gesell>	taub: lul
Apr 11 10:09:46 <Bugpowder>	what did i misssss?
Apr 11 10:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	so i am guessing next is the announcement of "mpoe-pr was right all along, we were running fractional reserve,
Apr 11 10:10:00 <gesell>	gox taking a break?
Apr 11 10:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	all your coins are lost, sorry, we're gone"
Apr 11 10:10:10 <ThickAsThieves>	[10:07] <ThickAsThieves> on gox
Apr 11 10:10:10 <ThickAsThieves>	[10:07] <ThickAsThieves> "Market cooldown, order placing suspended until 2013-04-12 11:00:00 UTC"
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Apr 11 10:10:26 <gesell>	oh you guys are just joking
Apr 11 10:10:27 <gesell>	damn
Apr 11 10:10:40 <Bugpowder>	what?
Apr 11 10:10:42 <ThickAsThieves>	not joking gesell
Apr 11 10:10:48 <ThickAsThieves>	want a screenshot?
Apr 11 10:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves put it on dtng
Apr 11 10:11:02 <Bugpowder>	fucking circuitbreakers
Apr 11 10:11:03 <taub>	wouldnt be surprised mp... they have been spewing some incompetent shit in their announcments
Apr 11 10:11:07 <Bugpowder>	FUCK
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Apr 11 10:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder not a circuit breaker.
Apr 11 10:11:35 <mircea_popescu>	they weren't "circuit breaking" yest's runup either.
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Apr 11 10:12:01 <Bugpowder>	there it is
Apr 11 10:12:06 <Bugpowder>	just tried to place on
Apr 11 10:12:07 <Bugpowder>	one
Apr 11 10:12:16 <Bugpowder>	market cooldown
Apr 11 10:12:21 <Bugpowder>	Market cooldown, order placing suspended until 2013-04-12 02:00:00 UTC
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Apr 11 10:12:59 <Bugpowder>	that is fucked
Apr 11 10:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	is it 2 utc or 11 utc ?
Apr 11 10:13:11 <Bugpowder>	who knows?
Apr 11 10:13:13 <ThickAsThieves>	they are gracious enough to allow cancelling orders
Apr 11 10:13:20 <ThickAsThieves>	they changed it
Apr 11 10:13:23 <ThickAsThieves>	from 11 to 2
Apr 11 10:13:32 <taub>	whats utc
Apr 11 10:13:33 <kakobrekla>	are they trying to kill btc?
Apr 11 10:13:35 <taub>	thats like still 12 hours?
Apr 11 10:13:41 <Bugpowder>	fucking idiots
Apr 11 10:13:53 <taub>	they think they can "save" the price with this?
Apr 11 10:14:05 <taub>	who knows what else they were manipulating
Apr 11 10:14:10 <taub>	and circut breakrers dont work anyway
Apr 11 10:14:24 <taub>	you can maybe stop a rampant faulty bot, but not people willing to sell ...
Apr 11 10:14:28 <ThickAsThieves>	whats the link to upload to dtng?
Apr 11 10:15:12 <ThickAsThieves>	lol mp hasnt linked any porn lately
Apr 11 10:15:20 <jcpham>	http://net-security.org/secworld.php?id=14733
Apr 11 10:15:22 <ThickAsThieves>	so i cant search log
Apr 11 10:15:25 <jcpham>	i've been reading that
Apr 11 10:15:29 <jcpham>	fuck mtgox
Apr 11 10:16:26 <unbalanced>	Yikes, bus and train for me from now on.
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Apr 11 10:17:33 <unbalanced>	Speaking of alternatives... are you guys just too big for bitstamp/bitfloor or what? Why are you all still on Gox?
Apr 11 10:17:54 <Bugpowder>	because bitfloor stole 25000 BTC
Apr 11 10:17:59 <unbalanced>	Right, that one.
Apr 11 10:18:02 <kakobrekla>	stamp is fucking fail
Apr 11 10:18:14 <unbalanced>	What about the other "top 10", anything that sucks less than Gox?
Apr 11 10:18:19 <taub>	btce
Apr 11 10:18:23 <kakobrekla>	there isnt any
Apr 11 10:18:23 <taub>	but rumors on forum about hackings
Apr 11 10:18:27 <unbalanced>	(I use Virtex up here in Canadia)
Apr 11 10:18:27 <taub>	so who the f knows
Apr 11 10:19:00 <ThickAsThieves>	gox disappears and price goes up
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Apr 11 10:19:02 <ThickAsThieves>	not bad
Apr 11 10:19:18 <taub>	it was rising on mtgox too before they shut down
Apr 11 10:19:24 <jcpham>	i trust weexchange.co but you'll have to make the market
Apr 11 10:19:27 <ThickAsThieves>	bot still down
Apr 11 10:19:31 <leotreasure>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 10:19:32 <jcpham>	not even sure if public
Apr 11 10:19:44 <jcpham>	verification you upload the docs yourself
Apr 11 10:19:48 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.735291 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00347750373471 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Apr 11 10:20:04 <taub>	how is it lagging without trades?
Apr 11 10:20:15 <lippoper>	heard they were taking it offline for server upgrades
Apr 11 10:20:16 <deadweasel>	weex was $400 to buy yesterday!
Apr 11 10:20:20 <deadweasel>	$140 to sell
Apr 11 10:20:24 <deadweasel>	:)
Apr 11 10:20:37 <leotreasure>	so is mtgox offline atm?
Apr 11 10:20:46 <ThickAsThieves>	trading is off
Apr 11 10:20:50 <taub>	they are bullshitting you, how is there lag
Apr 11 10:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	wb all
Apr 11 10:21:10 <taub>	lag counter is directly derived from orders...
Apr 11 10:21:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 10:21:19 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.222528 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00244993242389 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 11 10:21:31 <taub>	maybe people canceling orders
Apr 11 10:21:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 11 10:21:36 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
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Apr 11 10:22:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 11 10:22:48 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230820 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1019 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 54 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9084557.01163 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.39642
Apr 11 10:22:56 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 11 10:22:56 <gribble>	68695.4140799
Apr 11 10:23:24 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, why no bot?
Apr 11 10:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	cuz no data ?
Apr 11 10:23:48 <ThickAsThieves>	thought it was from bitcoincharts
Apr 11 10:23:51 <ThickAsThieves>	its up
Apr 11 10:23:53 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 11 10:23:56 <ThickAsThieves>	been up
Apr 11 10:24:00 <mircea_popescu>	well what can i tell you. bot has to get it.
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Apr 11 10:24:28 <Bugpowder>	all the bids are going to be vaporized when we come up
Apr 11 10:24:46 <Bugpowder>	This could be fun
Apr 11 10:24:56 <Bugpowder>	cancelled all buys down to 52
Apr 11 10:25:09 <Bugpowder>	hopefully the 52 and below will get filled
Apr 11 10:25:11 <ThickAsThieves>	right, why would anyone leave current bids up
Apr 11 10:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox has no business being involved in bitcoin
Apr 11 10:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	this much is clear.
Apr 11 10:25:20 <Bugpowder>	well
Apr 11 10:25:32 <Bugpowder>	I'm leaving some up for the possible crash and rebound bounce
Apr 11 10:26:19 <ThickAsThieves>	so now is the outside market gonna use gox orderbook for reference? hehe, ...
Apr 11 10:26:30 <Bugpowder>	lol
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Apr 11 10:27:44 <gesell>	MagicalTux: "So, today I would like to inform everyone that DDoS that began earlier in the day was quickly mitigated by our new hardware upgrades. These included adding another Linux server with 128GB of memory! to our already existing Pentium Pro servers. However, despite these improvements once again our own suscess caused a massive sell off as tons of new users added to MTGox decided to crash the market by not buying any bitcoin"
Apr 11 10:28:20 <gesell>	"Due to this continued success we will be suspending the exchange for a few hours so that everyone has time to open a bottle of chapagne"
Apr 11 10:28:35 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 11 10:28:41 <TomServo>	brilliant.
Apr 11 10:28:49 <ThickAsThieves>	wheres that from?
Apr 11 10:29:00 <gesell>	me.
Apr 11 10:29:05 <ThickAsThieves>	goodun
Apr 11 10:29:05 <gesell>	just tired of this
Apr 11 10:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	what are you serious ?
Apr 11 10:29:26 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess this is good for the market
Apr 11 10:29:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
Apr 11 10:29:32 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe if they live without gox for a day
Apr 11 10:29:38 <ThickAsThieves>	we can reroute the bloodflow
Apr 11 10:29:45 <mircea_popescu>	this is a good point.
Apr 11 10:29:50 <taub>	However, despite these improvements once again our own suscess caused a massive sell off as tons of new users added to MTGox decided to crash the market by not buying any bitcoin"
Apr 11 10:29:51 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully they reopen and nobody goes back.
Apr 11 10:29:54 <taub>	did he really write that?
Apr 11 10:29:56 <taub>	what a nitwit
Apr 11 10:30:00 <taub>	i cant believe it
Apr 11 10:30:02 <mircea_popescu>	taub nah it's a spoof
Apr 11 10:30:07 <ThickAsThieves>	its jokes taub
Apr 11 10:30:07 <taub>	good grief
Apr 11 10:30:08 <taub>	thanks
Apr 11 10:30:10 <ThickAsThieves>	but still
Apr 11 10:30:13 <ThickAsThieves>	dont be surprised
Apr 11 10:30:14 <Scrat>	taub: u dun goofed
Apr 11 10:30:18 <taub>	could've been him lol
Apr 11 10:30:18 <mircea_popescu>	the funny part is where everybody readily mistakes it for the original.
Apr 11 10:30:21 <ThickAsThieves>	if their next statement mirrors that
Apr 11 10:31:02 <Namworld>	he did halt trading on MtGox tho
Apr 11 10:31:10 <taub>	yea
Apr 11 10:32:12 <Bugpowder>	is the order book updating to show cancellations?
Apr 11 10:32:25 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 11 10:32:28 <ThickAsThieves>	sadly
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Apr 11 10:32:49 <ThickAsThieves>	at least not the one on clarkmoody
Apr 11 10:32:55 <deadweasel>	I've been pointing to the bitcon-otc order book to everyone freaking on bitcointalk.org..
Apr 11 10:33:02 <deadweasel>	hopefully they see that they can still trade.
Apr 11 10:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully.
Apr 11 10:33:20 <mircea_popescu>	if mtgox never comes back it will be too soon.
Apr 11 10:33:23 <gesell>	sorry
Apr 11 10:33:26 <gesell>	He did not write that
Apr 11 10:33:27 <gesell>	I wrote it
Apr 11 10:33:38 <ThickAsThieves>	too believable!
Apr 11 10:33:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00069713 = 5.5073 BTC [-]
Apr 11 10:33:51 <gesell>	put it on redit (as a lie)
Apr 11 10:34:22 <gesell>	my possition is still all held in BTC, still. But I dont care, this has to change
Apr 11 10:35:14 <Bugpowder>	Guys its cool
Apr 11 10:35:15 <Bugpowder>	(2013/4/11) Market Cooldown: Orders will not be accepted for the moment as we need to upgrade our database to accommodate the trading volume.  However, you may still cancel your pending and open orders.  Trading will resume at 11.00 am JST.
Apr 11 10:35:24 <Bugpowder>	just a planned outage
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Apr 11 10:35:58 <Bugpowder>	order book is updating
Apr 11 10:36:03 <Bugpowder>	watch the bids melt
Apr 11 10:36:28 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 11 10:36:28 <ThickAsThieves>	where>
Apr 11 10:36:32 <Bugpowder>	bitcoinity
Apr 11 10:36:32 <gribble>	There are currently 92569212 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 7168972.79161 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0081 seconds
Apr 11 10:36:45 <gesell>	wow, people on reddit are pretty gulable
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Apr 11 10:37:09 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoinity shows an orderbook?
Apr 11 10:37:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm missing out
Apr 11 10:37:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought it only shows last trades
Apr 11 10:37:38 <Namworld>	lol... orderbook melts...
Apr 11 10:37:45 <Namworld>	huge crash impending....
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Apr 11 10:37:55 <Bugpowder>	oh boy oh boy
Apr 11 10:37:56 <Namworld>	so much for trying to stop the crash...
Apr 11 10:37:59 <Bugpowder>	i'm gonna get filled
Apr 11 10:38:02 <Bugpowder>	at 51
Apr 11 10:38:04 <Bugpowder>	I can feel it
Apr 11 10:38:12 <ThickAsThieves>	how do i see orderbook on bitcoinity?
Apr 11 10:38:26 <Namworld>	yeah. Neat getting filled
Apr 11 10:39:11 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Apr 11 10:39:14 <Bugpowder>	should have kept the 72
Apr 11 10:39:24 <lippoper>	;;asks 72
Apr 11 10:39:24 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 72.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.1812 seconds
Apr 11 10:39:27 <Bugpowder>	Dip might be very fast
Apr 11 10:39:41 <lippoper>	aren't you being optimistic?
Apr 11 10:39:42 <Bugpowder>	price is holding up on other ex
Apr 11 10:39:42 <KRS-1>	think this will be permanent or is this our new reality never to see > $100 again
Apr 11 10:40:06 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball will we see 100 again
Apr 11 10:40:07 <gribble>	It is so.
Apr 11 10:40:11 <ThickAsThieves>	there ya go
Apr 11 10:40:33 <lippoper>	;;eightball will we see 200 again?
Apr 11 10:40:34 <gribble>	No chance.
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Apr 11 10:40:38 <KRS-1>	lol
Apr 11 10:40:40 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 11 10:40:48 <Scrat>	gribble :(
Apr 11 10:40:49 <soypirate>	so much for gribble's magic eightball
Apr 11 10:41:01 <lippoper>	lol
Apr 11 10:41:09 <KRS-1>	f'n eightball
Apr 11 10:41:19 <lippoper>	;;eightball will the market stabilize around $150?
Apr 11 10:41:19 <gribble>	Come again?
Apr 11 10:41:29 <ThickAsThieves>	face or chest?
Apr 11 10:41:43 <lippoper>	Come again?
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Apr 11 10:42:05 <error4733>	;;eightball Pirate40 refund every1
Apr 11 10:42:06 <gribble>	NO!
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Apr 11 10:42:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball Will options bot resume before Gox does?
Apr 11 10:42:33 <gribble>	NO.
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Apr 11 10:42:38 <pizzaman1337>	aw
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Apr 11 10:42:47 <lippoper>	hahaha
Apr 11 10:42:47 <ThickAsThieves>	knew it
Apr 11 10:43:01 <Namworld>	;;eightball Will we see 1 cent per BTC this month?
Apr 11 10:43:02 <gribble>	Maybe...
Apr 11 10:43:10 <KRS-1>	;;eightball does Lippoper have any chance of getting laid?
Apr 11 10:43:10 <gribble>	You're kidding, right?
Apr 11 10:43:16 <Namworld>	;;eightball Will we see 1 USD per BTC this month then?
Apr 11 10:43:17 <gribble>	It is possible.
Apr 11 10:43:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball will my C200s have any value this month?
Apr 11 10:43:51 <gribble>	No chance.
Apr 11 10:43:52 <Namworld>	;;eightball Does the bubble pops?
Apr 11 10:43:53 <gribble>	One would be wise to think so.
Apr 11 10:43:54 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 11 10:44:05 <Namworld>	I love eightball
Apr 11 10:44:08 <lippoper>	 ;;eightball and anyone, should I buy in at $100/btc ?
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Apr 11 10:44:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball is mircea and mpoe-pr the same person
Apr 11 10:44:31 <gribble>	I doubt it very much.
Apr 11 10:44:45 <Namworld>	eightball is very accurate overall
Apr 11 10:44:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eighbtall are you sure?
Apr 11 10:44:50 <gribble>	Error: "eighbtall" is not a valid command.
Apr 11 10:44:52 <lippoper>	 ;;eightball Should I buy in at $100/btc ?
Apr 11 10:44:57 <Namworld>	90% accuracy. So much for generic statements
Apr 11 10:44:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball Are you sure?
Apr 11 10:44:58 <gribble>	No.
Apr 11 10:45:23 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball will you be my trading consultant?
Apr 11 10:45:24 <gribble>	In your dreams.
Apr 11 10:45:29 <lippoper>	;;eightball Are you sure, I shouldn't buy in at $100/btc ?
Apr 11 10:45:30 <gribble>	No.
Apr 11 10:45:30 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 11 10:45:40 <error4733>	;;eightball will satoshi nakatomo come back one day ?
Apr 11 10:45:41 <gribble>	You know the answer better than I.
Apr 11 10:45:44 <lippoper>	;;eightball so I should buy in at $100 per btc, right?
Apr 11 10:45:44 <gribble>	The answer is certainly yes.
Apr 11 10:45:59 <ThickAsThieves>	too many answers
Apr 11 10:46:23 <error4733>	;;eightball can i trust you ?
Apr 11 10:46:24 <gribble>	You know the answer better than I.
Apr 11 10:46:33 <kakobrekla>	ok fellas cut the crap now
Apr 11 10:47:33 <gesell>	"eightball: satoshi will arrive in a cloud of glory and be welcome by all with eculiptus leaves IF mtgox lag is <120.000 ELSE he will come with vengeance and scorn and smite all those that placed their faith in the magic of the tux"
Apr 11 10:48:26 <error4733>	;;eightball satoshi will arrive in a cloud of glory and be welcome by all with eculiptus leaves IF mtgox lag is <120.000 ELSE he will come with vengeance and scorn and smite all those that placed their faith in the magic of the tux
Apr 11 10:48:27 <gribble>	Of course.
Apr 11 10:50:13 <gesell>	;;eightball WILL satoshi will arrive in a cloud of glory and be welcome by all with eculiptus leaves IF mtgox lag is <120.000 ELSE he will come with vengeance and scorn and smite all those that placed their faith in the magic of the tux?
Apr 11 10:50:13 <gribble>	Obviously.
Apr 11 10:50:18 <gesell>	cool
Apr 11 10:50:23 <gesell>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 10:50:24 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 5.763025 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.011549037574 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU).
Apr 11 10:50:45 <lippoper>	how many hours until Gox is back online?
Apr 11 10:50:50 <kakobrekla>	gox lagging while doing nothing, cute
Apr 11 10:51:06 <Bugpowdurr>	all those cancellations need to update the other ordrs
Apr 11 10:51:12 <Bugpowdurr>	for funded status
Apr 11 10:51:14 <Bugpowdurr>	most likely
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Apr 11 10:51:36 <kakobrekla>	bids have not changed drastically
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Apr 11 10:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	lmao the bot really likes the volatility.
Apr 11 10:52:20 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 11 10:52:22 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 160.59
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Apr 11 10:52:38 <punkman>	http://images.plus613.net/images/2/e/f/7/www_plus613_net_polarTube.jpg
Apr 11 10:52:45 <KRS-1>	what do the order books look like
Apr 11 10:53:00 <punkman>	^^
Apr 11 10:53:14 <Bugpowdurr>	your bot is retarrrrrded
Apr 11 10:53:23 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 11 10:53:23 <joecool>	lippoper: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440&iso=20130412T02&year=2013&month=4&day=12&hour=2&min=0&sec=0&msg=MtGox%20Starts%20Trading&csz=1
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Apr 11 10:54:26 <lippoper>	These stupid bots, keep buying for decimal points higher, then the price increases super slowly, and others sell much lower, then bot panic sells and the other bots make this shit worse, it's like microphone feedback when you have more than one mic in the room.
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Apr 11 10:56:02 <ThickAsThieves>	so
Apr 11 10:56:02 <deadweasel>	btc-e is selling just above 100
Apr 11 10:56:06 <ThickAsThieves>	all of the sudden
Apr 11 10:56:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.49 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 10:56:18 <ThickAsThieves>	the bot thinks 68 is the best breakeven?
Apr 11 10:56:34 <ThickAsThieves>	for puts
Apr 11 10:56:47 <mircea_popescu>	$depth p500t
Apr 11 10:56:48 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: O.USD.P500T Bids: ['1000 @ 2.11888746']
Apr 11 10:56:49 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 19.24887621']
Apr 11 10:57:00 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1 / 20.2488
Apr 11 10:57:00 <gribble>	0.049385642606
Apr 11 10:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	49 even
Apr 11 10:57:19 <ThickAsThieves>	not what i meant
Apr 11 10:57:31 <ThickAsThieves>	lowest risk break even
Apr 11 10:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	$avg
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Apr 11 10:57:42 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 160.46
Apr 11 10:57:54 <mircea_popescu>	$depth p161t
Apr 11 10:57:55 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: O.USD.P161T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.13213399']
Apr 11 10:57:56 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 1.79400702']
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Apr 11 10:58:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 161 / 2.794
Apr 11 10:58:15 <gribble>	57.6234788833
Apr 11 10:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	57
Apr 11 10:58:40 <ThickAsThieves>	P116
Apr 11 10:58:48 <lippoper>	84 currently
Apr 11 10:58:48 <ThickAsThieves>	anywho
Apr 11 10:58:57 <ThickAsThieves>	thats quite a change
Apr 11 10:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	it obviously didn't like the drop
Apr 11 10:59:34 <ThickAsThieves>	doesnt seem to be so averse to spikes?
Apr 11 10:59:37 <taub>	76
Apr 11 11:00:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 340 @ 0.0032 = 1.088 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 11:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 11 11:01:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.00000, Best ask: 123.40098, Bid-ask spread: 3.40098, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 262114.69964268, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 255.00000, 24 hour vwap: 162.35695
Apr 11 11:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	lalaal
Apr 11 11:02:16 <lippoper>	$70
Apr 11 11:02:17 <taub>	looks like btc from gox just hit btce
Apr 11 11:03:05 <lippoper>	$65
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Apr 11 11:04:03 <KRS-1>	rubbing my eyes
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Apr 11 11:04:20 <KRS-1>	when to buy..when to buy...
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Apr 11 11:04:46 <lippoper>	It would pretty much be impossible to come back from this
Apr 11 11:05:04 <lippoper>	All of the idiots thinking Anonymous hacked Mt.Gox is causing everyone to sell everything.
Apr 11 11:05:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7551 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 11:05:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.755 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox must go.
Apr 11 11:05:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7541 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:05:28 <taub>	yep
Apr 11 11:05:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75402 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:05:31 <lippoper>	Sell now before they get your account info and make off with your money, they are saying.
Apr 11 11:05:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75401 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:05:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.753 = 4.518 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:05:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75202 = 1.504 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:05:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75201 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:05:48 <KRS-1>	what do the order books look like
Apr 11 11:05:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.751 = 1.502 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:05:50 <lippoper>	and the sheeple are selling
Apr 11 11:05:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7501 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:06:06 <KRS-1>	it was the sheeple that put the price where it was
Apr 11 11:06:17 <deadweasel>	let them sell
Apr 11 11:06:19 <ThickAsThieves>	btc-e at 85
Apr 11 11:06:26 <pigeons>	;;ticker --currency CAD
Apr 11 11:06:27 <gribble>	BTCCAD ticker | Best bid: 118.89825, Best ask: 125.32470, Bid-ask spread: 6.42645, Last trade: 114.00000, 24 hour volume: 903.89633115, 24 hour low: 106.20810, 24 hour high: 254.66214, 24 hour vwap: 167.03981
Apr 11 11:06:34 <pigeons>	oh nevermind thats gox
Apr 11 11:06:41 <pigeons>	doing pretty well at virtex
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Apr 11 11:08:05 <ColdHardMetal>	chicken little has entered the building.
Apr 11 11:08:33 <KRS-1>	going back up on btc-e
Apr 11 11:09:11 <Doffx>	;;ticker --last
Apr 11 11:09:15 <gribble>	120.00000
Apr 11 11:09:32 <lippoper>	that's because btc-e implemented a verification process in order to stop the Goxers from panic selling all of their BTC on there.
Apr 11 11:09:37 <topace|2>	so wait, mtgox halted trading to "let things cool off" ?
Apr 11 11:09:47 <ThickAsThieves>	tahts their new line yeah
Apr 11 11:09:56 <mjr_>	halted trading?
Apr 11 11:10:00 <ThickAsThieves>	"Trading is halted until 2013-04-12 02:00am UTC to allow the market to cooldown following the drop in price. Read more details on the support."
Apr 11 11:10:08 <ThickAsThieves>	https://support.mtgox.com/entries/21519569-Market-Cooldown-for-12-hours
Apr 11 11:10:15 <topace|2>	thats rediculous
Apr 11 11:10:21 <Doffx>	Wow, thats so bad.
Apr 11 11:10:37 <topace|2>	"we have lots of money held in bitcoins, so we dont want the price to go down anymore, so we're halting trading"
Apr 11 11:10:50 <ThickAsThieves>	i doubt thats it
Apr 11 11:10:51 <taub>	the worst is that they think it helps
Apr 11 11:11:01 <ThickAsThieves>	they dont care about price value
Apr 11 11:11:08 <taub>	if they think price is irrational they should buy up themselves
Apr 11 11:11:13 <taub>	isntead of holding trading
Apr 11 11:11:16 <Doffx>	Yeah, why would  they need to
Apr 11 11:11:24 <Doffx>	The users bring the money and btc
Apr 11 11:11:27 <lippoper>	well, bigger price value == more money in exchange fees, same percentage, bigger cuts.
Apr 11 11:11:32 <Doffx>	They shouldnt have to carry much on hand
Apr 11 11:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	topace|2 fractional reserve ftw.
Apr 11 11:11:53 <pigeons>	of course it has nothing to do with price, all to do with lack of techrastructure
Apr 11 11:12:38 <topace|2>	pigeons: of course
Apr 11 11:12:44 <topace|2>	heh
Apr 11 11:13:22 <punkman>	someone should halt MagicalTux from talking
Apr 11 11:13:25 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173433.0
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Apr 11 11:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;title
Apr 11 11:13:33 <gribble>	(title <url>) -- Returns the HTML <title>...</title> of a URL.
Apr 11 11:13:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i think the problem is they simply made too much money to give a shit about anything
Apr 11 11:13:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173433.0
Apr 11 11:13:49 <taub>	hilarious how people go DONT SELL Y OU ARE KILLING IT on the btce chat
Apr 11 11:14:05 <gribble>	PSA: Bitcoin's survival and long term prospects depend on MtGox getting killed.
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Apr 11 11:14:08 <taub>	if we all close our eyes maybe it wont happen!
Apr 11 11:14:15 <Scrat>	btc-e is great entertainment right now
Apr 11 11:14:21 <Scrat>	btc-e chat*
Apr 11 11:14:26 <mircea_popescu>	that;s right gribble boy.
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Apr 11 11:15:11 <error4733>	59€ on BTC 24
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Apr 11 11:15:38 <damientrog>	it's crashing spectacularly on BTC-24
Apr 11 11:15:42 <taub>	"pice of shit scamsite"
Apr 11 11:15:43 <taub>	hahah
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Apr 11 11:16:17 <pigeons>	there hasn't been a buying opportunity like this in several days!!
Apr 11 11:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 11 11:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	ever since last week!1
Apr 11 11:17:03 <pigeons>	where's max?
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Apr 11 11:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons keiser ? he's crying like a leetal bitch.
Apr 11 11:17:38 <ChaangNoi>	?
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Apr 11 11:18:00 <gesell>	no worries, max keiser is going to save us
Apr 11 11:18:02 <ChaangNoi>	gox shut down for 36 hours?
Apr 11 11:18:19 <ChaangNoi>	at least that will stop the weekend dip, lol
Apr 11 11:18:27 <DeaDTerra>	10 Hours
Apr 11 11:18:31 <taub>	people will just rush to other exchanges...
Apr 11 11:18:37 <taub>	you can still withdraw
Apr 11 11:18:42 <DeaDTerra>	Bitstamp is currently trading at 79$
Apr 11 11:18:53 <gesell>	ChaangNoi: where are you seing this 36 h?
Apr 11 11:18:56 <ChaangNoi>	79$  !
Apr 11 11:18:58 <taub>	this is like open outcry ;)
Apr 11 11:19:03 <jborkl_>	Trading is halted until 2013-04-12 02:00am UTC to allow the market to cooldown following the drop in price. Read more details on the support. Additionally trading fees will not be charged within 48 hours of trading resuming (until 2013-04-14 02:00am UTC).
Apr 11 11:19:04 <ChaangNoi>	i might have failed at maths
Apr 11 11:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	<taub> you can still withdraw <<< you can still withdraw YET
Apr 11 11:19:14 <mircea_popescu>	once they run out of reserves what happens ?
Apr 11 11:19:23 <error4733>	LTC 1.5$ hahaha
Apr 11 11:19:44 <taub>	why you think they run fractional reserve tho?
Apr 11 11:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12586 @ 0.00070215 = 8.8373 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	because they ran in the red for very very long.
Apr 11 11:20:43 <ChaangNoi>	$79.. that is some panic selling i guess
Apr 11 11:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4019 @ 0.00070306 = 2.8256 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:20:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7187 @ 0.00071567 = 5.1435 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:21:07 <punkman>	there was $70 on bitstamp for a moment yesterday
Apr 11 11:21:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00071589 = 6.1567 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:21:31 <mircea_popescu>	time for a rehash of http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/
Apr 11 11:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	i guess.
Apr 11 11:21:56 <DeaDTerra>	and Bitstamps down...
Apr 11 11:22:01 <DeaDTerra>	chaotic...
Apr 11 11:22:03 <jborkl_>	btc e 68
Apr 11 11:22:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 40 @ 0.27621517 = 11.0486 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:22:42 <taub>	dont think i can recommend bitfloor yet
Apr 11 11:22:52 <taub>	i love their fee structure,  but they are too instable and small time
Apr 11 11:24:09 <gesell>	think about this for one second: even if there were enough people wanting to buy at this low price, they wont even be able to because of the time it takes to wire money in to another exchange. However, those wanting to sell can get their BTC more easily to another exchange. So for the next 24h, it will be a sellers market on
Apr 11 11:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	gesell pretty much
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Apr 11 11:24:53 <Doffx>	You know mircea_popescu, I think the loss people may or may not get tells the lesson much better than calling people newbs.
Apr 11 11:25:09 <error4733>	 bid @ 43.09127
Apr 11 11:25:09 <error4733>	ask @ 53.00000
Apr 11 11:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx i think so too.
Apr 11 11:25:21 <error4733>	€ on BTC 24  WTFFFFFF
Apr 11 11:25:24 <damientrog>	damn I wish funds left on btc-24 to buy
Apr 11 11:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C116T] 20 @ 0.18251672 = 3.6503 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 11:25:25 <KRS-1>	tjos os ficled i[
Apr 11 11:25:31 <KRS-1>	!!
Apr 11 11:25:48 <joecool>	Doffx: where's the fun in that though?
Apr 11 11:26:03 <mjr_>	so mt gox has suspended trading?
Apr 11 11:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:26:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:26:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.3 = 4.5 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:26:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:26:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.31 = 4.96 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:26:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.31 = 6.2 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:26:08 <Doffx>	I dont know, I dont find fun in telling people I told you so either.
Apr 11 11:26:16 <error4733>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKzymtAVBqg
Apr 11 11:26:17 <KRS-1>	mjr: yep
Apr 11 11:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx somebody has to.
Apr 11 11:26:20 <KRS-1>	til tom
Apr 11 11:26:29 <ChaangNoi>	man... this is insane
Apr 11 11:26:39 <Doffx>	No, nobody has to.
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Apr 11 11:27:02 <gesell>	suprisingnly the volume on bitcoin-24 still seems level
Apr 11 11:27:05 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx if everybody shuns this responsibility we just get us-style systemic failurer.
Apr 11 11:27:14 <mircea_popescu>	"nobody has to tell americans they're lazy stupid and fat"
Apr 11 11:27:15 <Doffx>	Educating people, and building each other nets better results, but we never do that.
Apr 11 11:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	just let them fritter away into nothingness and then starve. sure.
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Apr 11 11:27:38 <bgupta>	mircea_popescu: So you've called folks out for having price too high and not selling. Is there a plan for the inverse? "Guys bitcoin should not be selling below $2, please stop selling." ;)
Apr 11 11:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx THIS is education. education begins and ends with telling stupid people they are stupid
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Apr 11 11:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	and forcing them to interiorise this, AGAINST their will.
Apr 11 11:27:50 <mircea_popescu>	that's education.
Apr 11 11:28:17 <gesell>	this is healthy
Apr 11 11:28:23 <ThickAsThieves>	59 at btc-e
Apr 11 11:28:27 <Doffx>	Sigh.. you assume they are stupid, and not just caught up in some weird BTC euphoria, emotion trumps rational thought.
Apr 11 11:28:30 <gesell>	but i have to take a break
Apr 11 11:28:31 <gesell>	ciao
Apr 11 11:28:34 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx that is stupid.
Apr 11 11:28:44 <mircea_popescu>	the very definition of stupid.
Apr 11 11:28:45 <ThickAsThieves>	euphoria is the stupod
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Apr 11 11:28:58 <ThickAsThieves>	shouldve been a warning sign
Apr 11 11:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta heh. it will find its level.
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Apr 11 11:30:32 <ThickAsThieves>	80 at bitfloor
Apr 11 11:30:35 <gtlz>	lol
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Apr 11 11:31:02 <lippoper>	55
Apr 11 11:31:04 <lippoper>	on btc-e
Apr 11 11:31:42 <joecool>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 11:31:42 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 8.984516 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0180048694683 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).
Apr 11 11:31:47 <joecool>	it lags while doing nothing
Apr 11 11:31:53 <evoorhees>	hey guys, ready for another crazy day on the markets? lol
Apr 11 11:32:01 <error4733>	haha sure
Apr 11 11:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27000101 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.270001 = 0.54 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:32:20 <error4733>	good for S.dice !
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Apr 11 11:32:39 <Doffx>	They stopped the market!
Apr 11 11:32:53 <Doffx>	Now that is "Stupid"
Apr 11 11:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:33:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26013001 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:33:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.26013 = 0.5203 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:33:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26011 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 11:34:11 <pigeons>	evoorhees: i was reading about a backlog of satoshi dice payouts, what's that all about?
Apr 11 11:34:20 <error4733>	*opening curtain, looking at sky first time since 10 days
Apr 11 11:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26013001 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.26011 = 0.5202 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:35:06 <ChaangNoi>	btc-e changed from user name to e-mail... i used some random e-mail and i dont know what it is, cant log in... fail...
Apr 11 11:35:28 <lippoper>	that's what happens lol
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Apr 11 11:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26013001 BTC [+]
Apr 11 11:37:19 <lippoper>	GEM from BTC-E chat: "schicksal: MtGox has been suspended by the local japanese authorities for the past 24 hours for inquiry into money laundering via BTC"
Apr 11 11:37:21 <evoorhees>	pigeons - the site is hung up for an hour or so, that might be what you're refering to
Apr 11 11:37:25 <evoorhees>	we're resetting here shortly
Apr 11 11:37:35 <evoorhees>	(all bets will process as normal)
Apr 11 11:37:42 <pigeons>	thanks
Apr 11 11:39:27 <ChaangNoi>	lippoper dont quote the troll box here, lol
Apr 11 11:39:30 <error4733>	omg from btc e trollbox ? quick, SELL
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Apr 11 11:39:55 <lippoper>	ChaangNoi, I forgot to put my ROFL after the quote
Apr 11 11:40:15 <ChaangNoi>	:)
Apr 11 11:40:34 <lippoper>	but seriously FoxNews planned this? How do they have a story already out? http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/04/11/bitcoin-electronic-cash-beloved-by-hackers/
Apr 11 11:40:53 <lippoper>	"Just days ago the total value of bitcoins in circulation hit $2 billion,  up from a tiny fraction of that last year. But late Wednesday, Bitcoin  crashed, shedding more than 60 percent of its value in the space of a  few hours before recouping some of its losses. Critics say the roller  coaster currency movements are just another sign that Bitcoin is a  bubble waiting to burst."
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Apr 11 11:41:14 <mircea_popescu>	takes five minutes to type something into the box.
Apr 11 11:41:29 <lippoper>	"On Tuesday, the price of a single bitcoin had topped $200. On Wednesday,  it hit $266 before a flash crash dragged it back down to just over  $100. By Thursday, bitcoins were trading for around $150."
Apr 11 11:41:31 <lippoper>	I guess so
Apr 11 11:43:10 *	tiberiusiv (~tiberiusi@gateway/tor-sasl/tiberiusiv) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Apr 11 11:43:17 <lippoper>	"Some may wonder whether Caldwell's coins will one day be among the few  physical reminders of an expensive fad that evaporated into the ether --  perhaps the result of a breakdown in its electronic architecture, or  maybe after a crackdown by government regulators."
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Apr 11 11:44:16 <lippoper>	so from 260 -> 150 -> 50
Apr 11 11:44:28 <lippoper>	in the last 2 days
Apr 11 11:44:40 <kakobrekla>	you can skip the 150
Apr 11 11:44:59 <tiberiusiv>	lol what a bubble
Apr 11 11:46:13 <ThickAsThieves>	usagi poking the dragon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112876.msg1804012#msg1804012
Apr 11 11:46:22 <ChaangNoi>	tiberslav!
Apr 11 11:46:28 <Namworld>	What an EPIC bubble
Apr 11 11:46:53 <tiberiusiv>	hi chaang
Apr 11 11:47:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7443 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7442 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7441 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:31 <tiberiusiv>	tiberiusiv correctly predicted the lack of liquidity leading to a major event
Apr 11 11:47:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.744 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:33 <taub>	when is 2am utc?
Apr 11 11:47:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7431 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:36 <taub>	12 hours?
Apr 11 11:47:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.74 = 2.96 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.74 = 8.88 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7351 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:42 <mircea_popescu>	like 10
Apr 11 11:47:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.735 = 3.675 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:46 <taub>	kk
Apr 11 11:47:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7301 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.73 = 2.92 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:47:53 <taub>	right when i sleep crap
Apr 11 11:47:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.729 = 3.645 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 11:48:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.729 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:48:03 <ThickAsThieves>	[11:47] <+amphipod> Apr11 15:46:30 ripple            0.0001 @   149.99482125 USD
Apr 11 11:48:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.728 = 3.64 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:48:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.727 = 3.635 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:48:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7261 = 4.3566 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:48:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72602 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:48:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.725 = 4.35 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 11:49:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00104 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:49:59 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 11 11:50:01 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 156.12
Apr 11 11:50:26 <ColdHardMetal>	the worst thing is going to be reading all the "I told you so" posts all over the internet.
Apr 11 11:50:48 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 11 11:50:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.00000, Best ask: 123.40098, Bid-ask spread: 3.40098, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 258375.90467927, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 246.94000, 24 hour vwap: 161.16211
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Apr 11 11:51:14 <mircea_popescu>	ColdHardMetal i got mine done early :p
Apr 11 11:51:19 <ChaangNoi>	at least a got a good box of cigars out of this bubble:)
Apr 11 11:51:40 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 11 11:51:43 <ColdHardMetal>	mp: lol
Apr 11 11:51:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 14 @ 0.001033 = 0.0145 BTC [-]
Apr 11 11:51:52 <ThickAsThieves>	gox closing for 1 day is like a master stroke
Apr 11 11:52:07 <ThickAsThieves>	cash is stuck just long enough
Apr 11 11:52:13 <ThickAsThieves>	btc is freely movable
Apr 11 11:52:16 <ColdHardMetal>	already sold those coins Chaang, so we're both in good shape :)
Apr 11 11:52:22 <ThickAsThieves>	all that can happen is sell
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Apr 11 11:52:56 <pgp2>	holy fuck - afk for 2 hours and this is what happens...
Apr 11 11:53:29 <Scrat>	pgp2: lol
Apr 11 11:54:02 <ThickAsThieves>	bitfloor not trading
Apr 11 11:54:18 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin-central still is (euro)
Apr 11 11:54:31 <mircea_popescu>	pgp2 must stay glued to monityor nao
Apr 11 11:54:34 <ThickAsThieves>	good thing i have btc that just got there....
Apr 11 11:55:53 <ChaangNoi>	CHM i hoe you sold at $250
Apr 11 11:56:09 <bgupta>	So curious.. all the sites that are helping to facilitate RL commerce using btx, seem to rely on exchange values to help set spot exchange rates.. How will these sites operate.. e.g - bitpay
Apr 11 11:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta don't ask ;/
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Apr 11 11:56:44 <mircea_popescu>	when i say mtgox is bitcoin's #1 enemy, i mean it.
Apr 11 11:56:51 <mircea_popescu>	they've single handedly fucked up everything.
Apr 11 11:56:53 <ColdHardMetal>	Chaang: nah, nothing quite that high, but still well in the money.
Apr 11 11:56:56 <ChaangNoi>	funny how btc-e a russian mob site is the large btc usd exchange in operation in the whole world... right now...
Apr 11 11:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	again.
Apr 11 11:57:10 <taub>	;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173201.0
Apr 11 11:57:17 <taub>	:c
Apr 11 11:57:18 <gribble>	mtgox under Distributed Denial of Competence attack
Apr 11 11:57:34 <gtlz>	lol ^
Apr 11 11:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 11 11:58:38 <unbalanced>	Virtex dropped to 65 and now up to 100 again
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Apr 11 11:58:42 <pgp2>	;; goxlag
Apr 11 11:58:43 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 10.913419 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0218703694833 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Apr 11 11:59:31 <pgp2>	irc from a cell phone...  not so great...
Apr 11 12:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P140T] 3 @ 0.08275503 = 0.2483 BTC [+]
Apr 11 12:00:18 <tiberiusiv>	lol chaangnoi
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Apr 11 12:00:38 <ThickAsThieves>	a drop from 265 to 105 is no sweat, but you go from 150 to 120 and its time to halt trading
Apr 11 12:00:43 <error4733>	75K news users in 10 days, if you compare to 100K for ALL 2012, some ppl on MTgox shit some brick atm
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Apr 11 12:00:57 <jborkl_>	btce down now
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Apr 11 12:01:20 <Scrat>	lol, everything is down
Apr 11 12:01:26 <jcpham>	we gave up on the exchanges
Apr 11 12:01:29 <mjr_>	yeah
Apr 11 12:01:30 <jcpham>	otc price is 120
Apr 11 12:01:33 <pgp2>	what a joke
Apr 11 12:01:36 <mjr_>	that seems to be the real price
Apr 11 12:01:37 <jcpham>	if anyone is interested
Apr 11 12:01:39 <mjr_>	around 120 i think
Apr 11 12:01:45 <jcpham>	we seem to have agrred on that
Apr 11 12:01:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [+]
Apr 11 12:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham way to go.
Apr 11 12:02:21 <jcpham>	i've been saying for a long time -otc shouldn't exactly base their trades off the ticker
Apr 11 12:02:28 <jcpham>	seems like a good excuse now
Apr 11 12:02:29 <joecool>	we don't
Apr 11 12:02:32 <jcpham>	these exchanges are fucked
Apr 11 12:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, deposits flushed.
Apr 11 12:02:38 <ColdHardMetal>	I keep seeing exchanges scroll by on -market I've never even heard of before.
Apr 11 12:02:46 <pgp2>	maybe we should meetup in regional public places and start some open outcry pit trading..
Apr 11 12:02:47 <ColdHardMetal>	any fiat'll do apparently.
Apr 11 12:03:03 <jcpham>	the price is what sellers say it is
Apr 11 12:03:08 <error4733>	BTC E up, F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5
Apr 11 12:03:15 <jcpham>	if the counterparty agrees to it, that's the price
Apr 11 12:03:19 <taub>	i think this will be a long hurtful downtrend
Apr 11 12:03:22 <joecool>	gribble *can* base off gox, but majority of trades I do get agreed upon on trade-by-trade
Apr 11 12:03:23 <taub>	not a quick v dip
Apr 11 12:03:41 <taub>	the 2011 crash took almost two years to recover
Apr 11 12:04:01 <joecool>	taub: things were a lot different in 2011
Apr 11 12:04:11 <mjr_>	YES open outcry FTW
Apr 11 12:04:29 <mjr_>	eh, i think we will see gox finally go down
Apr 11 12:04:34 <mjr_>	and people get some good exchanges
Apr 11 12:04:40 <mjr_>	that actually are professional
Apr 11 12:04:53 <joecool>	k
Apr 11 12:04:54 <taub>	lets hope so
Apr 11 12:05:07 <taub>	i want a 0% exchange that isn't exploitable >:D
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Apr 11 12:05:11 <joecool>	in the meanwhile MT is sweating and eating pizza while people panic
Apr 11 12:05:14 <joecool>	:D
Apr 11 12:05:30 <mjr_>	i cannot believe that fucking they said "we are a victim of our own success, look at our impressive numbers"
Apr 11 12:05:43 <taub>	yes
Apr 11 12:05:52 <taub>	they have to put some japanese people into pr
Apr 11 12:05:54 <joecool>	mircea_popescu: maybe you should do a post about his diet, https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/322317865443274752/photo/1
Apr 11 12:06:03 <pgp2>	douche bags
Apr 11 12:06:04 <Namworld>	the MtGox orderbook is MELTING
Apr 11 12:06:07 <taub>	and be a bit humbler... how about a "we are very sorry"
Apr 11 12:06:08 <Namworld>	it's just funny
Apr 11 12:06:10 <mjr_>	they are halted
Apr 11 12:06:18 <mjr_>	what would their order book be good for?
Apr 11 12:06:29 <pgp2>	bitfloor back up?
Apr 11 12:06:35 <mjr_>	we are sorry for doing serious damage to an amazing community due to our incompetence
Apr 11 12:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00069713 = 1.7428 BTC [-]
Apr 11 12:06:50 <mjr_>	that would be a nice start
Apr 11 12:06:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00069712 = 1.3942 BTC [-]
Apr 11 12:06:54 <Namworld>	they're mostly damaging the speculators tho...
Apr 11 12:06:57 <mjr_>	true
Apr 11 12:07:01 <Namworld>	And I say good riddance
Apr 11 12:07:05 <Scrat>	https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/303178594283298817/photo/1
Apr 11 12:07:07 <Scrat>	is he boasting?
Apr 11 12:07:15 <tiberiusiv>	lol russians the only game in town
Apr 11 12:07:18 <ChaangNoi>	coinlab will replace gox sorta?
Apr 11 12:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	joecool obviously makes a body smart.
Apr 11 12:07:23 <mjr_>	i agree...to some extent, but press is not gonna be good
Apr 11 12:08:05 <mircea_popescu>	<mjr_> we are sorry for doing serious damage to an amazing community due to our incompetence <<< that.
Apr 11 12:08:15 <Scrat>	Namworld: is there an up to date gox orderbook?
Apr 11 12:08:23 <mjr_>	bitfinex is still up trading around 120 as well
Apr 11 12:08:25 <mircea_popescu>	you gave us 1mn a month+ for the past coupla months, we fucked it all up.
Apr 11 12:08:32 <Namworld>	yes, clarkmoody and bitcoincharts
Apr 11 12:08:35 <Namworld>	they update
Apr 11 12:08:42 <taub>	lmao bitfinex still trading?
Apr 11 12:08:44 <pgp2>	82 on bitfloor
Apr 11 12:08:45 <Namworld>	it's only placing new orders that's suspended
Apr 11 12:08:48 <taub>	because mtgox is still quoting 120
Apr 11 12:09:15 <mjr_>	99 on bitfloor i see
Apr 11 12:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	taub taht'll be the amusement of the weekend, stuff like bitfinex
Apr 11 12:10:09 <Namworld>	FFFUUUUCCCCKKK
Apr 11 12:10:13 <Namworld>	My PUTS
Apr 11 12:10:17 <Namworld>	they sold!
Apr 11 12:10:24 <mjr_>	Trade with confidence on the world's largest Bitcoin exchange!
Apr 11 12:10:34 <mjr_>	^^Really?
Apr 11 12:10:42 <pigeons>	bitfinex is not routing orders to gox, only internally, bid 110 ask 148
Apr 11 12:11:08 <tiberiusiv>	btc-e is working fine
Apr 11 12:11:28 <Scrat>	russia saves the day
Apr 11 12:11:36 <mjr_>	love the russians today
Apr 11 12:12:13 <mjr_>	have to appreciate mpex and people who use it
Apr 11 12:12:19 <mjr_>	no dumping of stocks
Apr 11 12:12:22 <mjr_>	prices steady
Apr 11 12:12:26 <pgp2>	and bitfinex will liquidate margin positions based on those spreads - lol
Apr 11 12:12:40 <Namworld>	fuck
Apr 11 12:12:40 <mjr_>	yeah people losing their shirts today
Apr 11 12:12:44 <Namworld>	fuckfuckfuck
Apr 11 12:12:49 <Namworld>	I want my puts back lol
Apr 11 12:13:06 <mjr_>	though i see it as 130/130
Apr 11 12:13:11 <mjr_>	on BFX
Apr 11 12:13:39 <mjr_>	buy buy buy on bitfloor lol
Apr 11 12:13:59 <tiberiusiv>	90+ on btce
Apr 11 12:14:00 <pigeons>	mjr_: wait for the actual bids and asks to load, don't just look at the suggestion
Apr 11 12:14:09 <mjr_>	i am looking directly at the order book
Apr 11 12:14:31 <pigeons>	bid 106 ask 148
Apr 11 12:14:32 <mjr_>	122/122
Apr 11 12:14:38 <splnkr>	btce back to 100
Apr 11 12:14:54 <ColdHardMetal>	I doubt anyone was really set up for it, but some pretty sick arb spots today.
Apr 11 12:14:54 <mjr_>	or you can look directly at the trades
Apr 11 12:15:08 <mjr_>	public trades history- last: 122.1
Apr 11 12:15:14 <tiberiusiv>	i bought @ 55 and 59 on btc-e
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Apr 11 12:15:23 <tiberiusiv>	couldnt get filled with larger size
Apr 11 12:15:34 <splnkr>	ColdHardMetal: are you including MtGox's frozen book?
Apr 11 12:15:44 <splnkr>	i don't see a lot of arb if not…and if so it's illusory
Apr 11 12:15:46 <pigeons>	mjr_: my bad, i was reading them reverse order
Apr 11 12:15:50 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld it srsly doesn't look like it;'s going to go down too badly.
Apr 11 12:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	were your puts high ?
Apr 11 12:15:59 <ColdHardMetal>	spinkr: nope.
Apr 11 12:16:46 <splnkr>	oh i see what you mean, at certain points in the day…looks like there are some actors maybe doing it then
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Apr 11 12:18:00 <Namworld>	134
Apr 11 12:18:10 <Namworld>	well they sold for 0.25, decent
Apr 11 12:18:29 <Namworld>	But not if I can't get more and it keeps crashing...
Apr 11 12:18:37 <Namworld>	the MtGox mess might hurt BTC badly
Apr 11 12:18:41 <ColdHardMetal>	could be even better when taking synthetic rates into consideration. you'd need a lot of data at hand to make that work though.
Apr 11 12:19:02 <Namworld>	I think I could have gotten more for them tho...
Apr 11 12:19:28 <Namworld>	Either way I sold BTC at 250, sold some puts. So much BTC profit
Apr 11 12:19:37 <Namworld>	I can buyback BTC-BOND in full pretty much
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Apr 11 12:19:42 <mjr_>	lol, its becoming a meme "victim of their own success"
Apr 11 12:19:46 <mjr_>	...
Apr 11 12:19:50 <Namworld>	Without selling anything from my portfolio
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Apr 11 12:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	do you know who else was a victim of his own success ?
Apr 11 12:20:23 <mircea_popescu>	hitler.
Apr 11 12:20:29 <mircea_popescu>	hitler was a victim of his own success.
Apr 11 12:20:44 <mircea_popescu>	also saddam hussein was a victim of his own success
Apr 11 12:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	and that osama guy.
Apr 11 12:20:51 <mjr_>	do they not realize how easy it would have been to limit trades to 1 btc units? poof there goes prob OVER 90% of your volume, maybe you could handle that
Apr 11 12:21:14 <mjr_>	that is why most exchanges don't really allow odd lots for everyone
Apr 11 12:21:30 <pigeons>	thats what virwox did until the recent value increase, now they allow .1 increments
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Apr 11 12:21:46 <mjr_>	well...it is super obvious
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Apr 11 12:21:59 <mjr_>	i don't think they will get the chance to remedy their stupidity
Apr 11 12:22:28 <kakobrekla>	:)
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Apr 11 12:23:24 <tiberiusiv>	what type of losses is mircea sitting on this month
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Apr 11 12:23:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 13510 @ 0.0027 = 36.477 BTC [-]
Apr 11 12:24:20 <Namworld>	I think earnings... people had lots of calls before the crash I think
Apr 11 12:25:18 <deadweasel>	if they weren't exercised
Apr 11 12:25:53 <deadweasel>	227 was last vwap...  so any that don't break even there would be profit for mpe
Apr 11 12:25:56 <deadweasel>	x
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Apr 11 12:30:03 <error4733>	Sick, 6.5K sold just before MtGox close "hey dude, we gonna switch off for 12h, sold buddy !"
Apr 11 12:30:05 <error4733>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/btceUSD#rg2zig30-minztgSza1gEMAzm1g10za2gEMAzm2g21zv
Apr 11 12:30:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 425 @ 0.0029486 = 1.2532 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 12:31:52 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 nasty.
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Apr 11 12:32:23 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173512.0 lol
Apr 11 12:32:47 <Namworld>	With my gains, I think I should repay my debt
Apr 11 12:33:04 <Namworld>	and put some aside for longterm...
Apr 11 12:33:13 <Namworld>	I got plenty left to trade too
Apr 11 12:33:39 <Namworld>	I think some BTC-BOND holders might be sad tho... they liked my bond...
Apr 11 12:34:27 <pgp>	mt gox is really not going to trade for the next 9.5 hours...  am I reading that right?
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Apr 11 12:34:38 <thepuller>	;;ticker
Apr 11 12:34:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.00000, Best ask: 123.40098, Bid-ask spread: 3.40098, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 253681.25852100, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 236.61711, 24 hour vwap: 159.80297
Apr 11 12:34:44 <error4733>	pgp, yes
Apr 11 12:34:45 <TomServo>	pgp: that's the word on the street
Apr 11 12:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	pgp yes
Apr 11 12:34:58 <thepuller>	;;asks 170
Apr 11 12:35:00 <gribble>	There are currently 6396.6254 bitcoins offered at or under 170.0 USD, worth 963814.770931 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds
Apr 11 12:35:03 <splnkr>	does any other exchange do that?
Apr 11 12:35:08 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Apr 11 12:35:14 <thepuller>	;;bids 100
Apr 11 12:35:14 <gribble>	There are currently 9319.4263 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 999793.039756 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.8258 seconds
Apr 11 12:35:32 <pgp>	beyond the pale...
Apr 11 12:35:38 <thepuller>	;;bids 0
Apr 11 12:35:38 <gribble>	There are currently 92501115 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6073925.62664 USD in total. | Data vintage: 38.0100 seconds
Apr 11 12:35:47 <Namworld>	the bids orderbook is melting while people are waiting to be able to sell...
Apr 11 12:35:56 <Namworld>	This is going to get ugly...
Apr 11 12:35:59 <thepuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 12:36:00 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 6.568517 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0131632345232 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU).
Apr 11 12:36:03 <bgupta>	bids orderbook?
Apr 11 12:36:05 <Namworld>	Major lag when gox comes back
Apr 11 12:36:07 <bgupta>	otc?
Apr 11 12:36:13 <bgupta>	oh
Apr 11 12:36:13 <thepuller>	Gox is down?
Apr 11 12:36:16 <Namworld>	no, the bids orderbook on Gox
Apr 11 12:36:41 <pgp>	is gox processing BTC withdrawls?
Apr 11 12:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	while supplies last.
Apr 11 12:37:10 <splnkr>	yeah…moved my funds off yesterday when they got all dicey with the order lag. can't be having that
Apr 11 12:37:23 <thepuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 11 12:37:24 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.90251552 / 218.88143499 / 226.22012381 (14550 shares, 2,478.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 11 12:37:26 <splnkr>	i'm on the hook for about $10 if they evaporate
Apr 11 12:37:31 <splnkr>	=D
Apr 11 12:37:34 <thepuller>	Lol
Apr 11 12:37:40 <thepuller>	Me too
Apr 11 12:37:44 <bgupta>	down to "cool the market" funny they didn't do that on the way up. :) Also they claim they will be upgrading to a larger server. (A larger server!! Wow!! Perhaps we can get them a mainframe, because distributed computing hasn't been invented yet.)
Apr 11 12:37:57 <splnkr>	"servers"
Apr 11 12:37:58 <splnkr>	lol
Apr 11 12:38:02 <thepuller>	Hahahanaha
Apr 11 12:38:06 <thepuller>	Looks like mi
Apr 11 12:38:18 <error4733>	POPCORN time !
Apr 11 12:38:26 <splnkr>	coming soon, MtSplnkr from my home server
Apr 11 12:38:28 <TomServo>	bgupta: dude, it's probably like a whole 4U server too
Apr 11 12:38:28 <thepuller>	mircea_popescu is gox finally getting their shit together?
Apr 11 12:38:33 <pgp>	commodore 64 to and apple IIe
Apr 11 12:38:39 <thepuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 11 12:38:40 <gribble>	152.87
Apr 11 12:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	thepuller nope
Apr 11 12:38:57 <thepuller>	Waah the bitcoin world is ending
Apr 11 12:38:58 <thepuller>	Lol
Apr 11 12:39:03 <bgupta>	the said they were upgrading to a 128GB RAM machine.. that's a 2U server
Apr 11 12:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox;d better be ending,.
Apr 11 12:39:11 <Scrat>	Apr11 16:38:39 mtgox             4.0000 @   123.40098    USD
Apr 11 12:39:12 <Scrat>	what
Apr 11 12:39:15 <splnkr>	a lot has changed since "July 2011"
Apr 11 12:39:18 <bgupta>	Might even be able to get a 1U server with 128GB
Apr 11 12:39:26 <TomServo>	you can, I was kidding
Apr 11 12:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	splnkr yea, for some values of a lot that are nothing at all.
Apr 11 12:39:41 <Scrat>	there was a gox trade just now
Apr 11 12:39:54 <Scrat>	unless amphipod is trolling
Apr 11 12:39:56 <Namworld>	ok, who wants to buy some puts and at what price?
Apr 11 12:40:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.54 = 3.08 BTC [+]
Apr 11 12:41:51 <ThickAsThieves>	scrat that trade shows on mtgox.com too
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Apr 11 12:42:11 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves so then not quite as down as all that ?
Apr 11 12:42:43 <splnkr>	lol "we're going offline for 12 hours, wait i mean 1.2 hours"
Apr 11 12:42:57 <TomServo>	those decimals can be sneaky
Apr 11 12:43:09 <ThickAsThieves>	it was the only trade
Apr 11 12:43:18 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe they rebooted and one snuck in
Apr 11 12:43:27 <mjr_>	i wonder whats going on at that office right now
Apr 11 12:44:00 <TomServo>	mjr_: https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/322317865443274752/photo/1
Apr 11 12:44:01 <Scrat>	mjr_: pride
Apr 11 12:44:10 <error4733>	MtGox is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get
Apr 11 12:44:24 <mjr_>	hahahaha
Apr 11 12:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	ya, except they're monty pythion chocolates
Apr 11 12:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	fried bug praline
Apr 11 12:45:05 <splnkr>	in other news, MtGox USD Coupon codes are no longer a thing
Apr 11 12:45:14 <splnkr>	"deprecated" today!
Apr 11 12:45:18 <mjr_>	that was announced a while ago, right?
Apr 11 12:45:21 <splnkr>	yep
Apr 11 12:45:26 <ThickAsThieves>	at least we know there's a good chance he'll die painfully from a hear attack
Apr 11 12:45:28 <mjr_>	that smacks of fractional reserve
Apr 11 12:45:37 <ThickAsThieves>	heart*
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Apr 11 12:45:58 <mircea_popescu>	mjr_ it does./
Apr 11 12:46:27 <mjr_>	ugh...i almost wouldn't mind the illiquidity if they would just go away
Apr 11 12:47:18 <splnkr>	what would the ideal exchange situation be like? right now it's like we have regional and fragmented and scattered ones
Apr 11 12:47:30 <splnkr>	we can see the weaknesses of centralization at this point i'd say....
Apr 11 12:47:41 <splnkr>	but there needs to be some critical mass for there to be volume
Apr 11 12:48:28 <splnkr>	since lag is such an issue, regional exchanges make some sense
Apr 11 12:49:54 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe ripple isnt so crazy
Apr 11 12:50:18 <error4733>	this
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Apr 11 12:51:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+]
Apr 11 12:52:09 <splnkr>	well ripple is cool for what it is, but it isn't "digital cash" in the same way bitcoin is either
Apr 11 12:52:38 <mjr_>	hmmm...irrational exuberance, and then irrational panic
Apr 11 12:52:48 <error4733>	no yet, but the all idea behind is nice
Apr 11 12:52:59 <mjr_>	from what i can see...not one thing has materially changed about bitcoin in the last few days...
Apr 11 12:53:10 <pigeons>	hahaha like that ever matters
Apr 11 12:53:13 <mjr_>	not even a hack this time...
Apr 11 12:53:18 <splnkr>	if's for the bills and janes of the world that all owe each other small sums…in other words personas they used to design the service that don't really exist =P
Apr 11 12:53:32 <splnkr>	s/if's/it's
Apr 11 12:53:40 <mjr_>	though think of it..."we crashed the market back in 2011, and we did it again in 2013, care to trade?"
Apr 11 12:55:19 <splnkr>	but yeah the Ripple apporach maybe could work to make better exchange algorithms
Apr 11 12:55:32 <Scrat>	the old ripple concept
Apr 11 12:55:34 <Scrat>	not ripple.com
Apr 11 12:55:43 <Scrat>	centrally issued currency no thanks
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Apr 11 12:57:01 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu i have just now stumbled on your twitter
Apr 11 12:57:08 <jcpham>	i am laughing loudly
Apr 11 12:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Apr 11 12:57:27 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/11/4209650/why-would-anyone-want-to-kill-shane-todd
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Apr 11 13:01:37 <bgupta>	So how much fiat would it take for a professional organization (think corp/gov) to develop an inexpensive mining ASIC, mass produce it, and run enough to get 51%? (Guessing the biggest issue would be time.) And what real defense does our network have against such an attack?
Apr 11 13:03:09 <bgupta>	guessing the design and prototype could certainly be developed for < $500,000.
Apr 11 13:03:24 <ThickAsThieves>	a few problems
Apr 11 13:03:32 <ThickAsThieves>	which arm of gov would do that?
Apr 11 13:03:44 <ThickAsThieves>	and how do they get approval for that kind of spending?
Apr 11 13:03:47 <ThickAsThieves>	then
Apr 11 13:03:51 <ThickAsThieves>	if they do
Apr 11 13:03:53 <ThickAsThieves>	to what end?
Apr 11 13:03:55 <Doffx>	Lol, they need approval?
Apr 11 13:04:02 <Scrat>	discretionary funding
Apr 11 13:04:12 <ThickAsThieves>	the bitcoin idea doesnt die
Apr 11 13:04:18 <ThickAsThieves>	if you kill one chain
Apr 11 13:04:23 <jborkl_>	it would take 10 years just to get the idea signed off on
Apr 11 13:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta it'd be about 100mn
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Apr 11 13:04:34 <ThickAsThieves>	even then
Apr 11 13:04:38 <jborkl_>	then 10 x over budget and it doesnt work
Apr 11 13:04:38 <ThickAsThieves>	they just split it
Apr 11 13:04:44 <ThickAsThieves>	people ignire the gov one
Apr 11 13:04:48 <Doffx>	I would think they could do very quickly, I think they would rather just use it as a tool to outlaw crytpo coins period though
Apr 11 13:04:52 <thestring>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 11 13:04:54 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068433 / 0.00070408 / 0.000716 (215655 shares, 151.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00068976 / 0.000716 (1916705 shares, 1,322.07 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068799 / 0.00077505 (9619968 shares, 6,618.52 BTC)
Apr 11 13:05:11 <ThickAsThieves>	its a losing battle before it starts
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Apr 11 13:05:32 <bgupta>	Guessing they'd have to push through NSA, or some other black box budget
Apr 11 13:05:36 <ThickAsThieves>	litecoiners would be thrilled
Apr 11 13:05:41 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 11 13:05:51 <Doffx>	I think there is a long battle ahead, I dont know who the victor will be but the fight is just beggining.
Apr 11 13:06:00 <bgupta>	ThickAsThieves: Litecoin has same vuln.
Apr 11 13:06:07 <ThickAsThieves>	right
Apr 11 13:06:08 <ThickAsThieves>	but
Apr 11 13:06:15 <ThickAsThieves>	they just keep building miners?
Apr 11 13:06:20 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx has it.
Apr 11 13:06:48 <ThickAsThieves>	probly better ways to kill bitcoin
Apr 11 13:07:09 <ThickAsThieves>	regulate web traffic maybe
Apr 11 13:07:26 <ThickAsThieves>	need a license for botlike behavior
Apr 11 13:07:26 <Doffx>	Make people feel stupid for making a bad choice, that burn is enough to kill BTC.
Apr 11 13:07:28 <ThickAsThieves>	or such
Apr 11 13:07:37 <bgupta>	listen it will be a lot easier to get 100mn budget than to pass a law outtlawing bitcoin.. The problem with outlawing bitcoin, is that it gives bitcoin some credability and noteriety, and wouldn't kill it..
Apr 11 13:07:42 <benkay>	don't confuse your emotions with economics doffx
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Apr 11 13:08:03 <Doffx>	What am I being emotional about?
Apr 11 13:08:15 <ThickAsThieves>	who said to outlaw it?
Apr 11 13:08:21 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe i have them on ignore already
Apr 11 13:08:27 <joecool>	oh yeah that same burn killed gambling too
Apr 11 13:08:35 <joecool>	lol
Apr 11 13:08:39 <bgupta>	Doffx said it ThickAsThieves
Apr 11 13:09:04 <ThickAsThieves>	what about what i said about web traffic
Apr 11 13:09:06 <bgupta>	Doffx: Make people feel stupid for making a bad choice, that burn is enough to kill BTC.
Apr 11 13:09:13 <benkay>	feeling stupid about making a bad choice won't kill btc.
Apr 11 13:09:14 <Doffx>	Now BTC is gambling? I thought BTC and gambling were different.
Apr 11 13:09:15 <ThickAsThieves>	comcast sent me a warning when i started mining,
Apr 11 13:09:38 <ThickAsThieves>	Warning your compuer mayb be infected and is showing bit-like behavior
Apr 11 13:09:39 <ThickAsThieves>	it said
Apr 11 13:09:45 <ThickAsThieves>	bot-like*
Apr 11 13:09:47 <Doffx>	I was saying that the government could help do that bgupta
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Apr 11 13:10:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.725 BTC [-]
Apr 11 13:10:16 <ThickAsThieves>	that means mining is detectable
Apr 11 13:10:18 <ThickAsThieves>	and this preventable
Apr 11 13:10:20 <ThickAsThieves>	this*
Apr 11 13:10:23 <ThickAsThieves>	thus*
Apr 11 13:10:28 <joecool>	ThickAsThieves: you should send them a warning back about tampering with http connections
Apr 11 13:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32874999 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 13:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32875 = 3.2875 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32899999 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:04 <TomServo>	ThickAsThieves: there are a number of ways to avoid that
Apr 11 13:11:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.329 = 1.316 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.33 = 2.64 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.341 = 6.82 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 31 @ 0.3415 = 10.5865 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.342 = 0.684 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.348 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.34999999 = 8.75 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.35 = 3.5 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 52 @ 0.35 = 18.2 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:11:16 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Apr 11 13:11:18 <joecool>	ie. use a VPN
Apr 11 13:12:13 <Doffx>	I was more trying to point out alternatives to just forking the chain with a 51% attack.
Apr 11 13:12:29 <ThickAsThieves>	forking doesnt kill it anyway
Apr 11 13:12:38 <ThickAsThieves>	just strikes confidence
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Apr 11 13:13:14 <pandnh4>	hi, does anyone have a good reading on current btc price as mtgox is not trading?
Apr 11 13:13:21 <pandnh4>	clarkmoody?
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Apr 11 13:13:25 <Doffx>	90-120
Apr 11 13:13:31 <imsaguy>	..
Apr 11 13:13:32 <imsaguy>	people
Apr 11 13:13:33 <kakobrekla>	80-110
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Apr 11 13:13:36 <imsaguy>	there is no 'current price'
Apr 11 13:13:46 <imsaguy>	the 'current price' is whatever price you're willing to buy or selli tat
Apr 11 13:13:53 <imsaguy>	selling at*
Apr 11 13:13:56 <kakobrekla>	last price then
Apr 11 13:14:01 <Doffx>	oh 80 now
Apr 11 13:14:05 <pandnh4>	ok, can you recommend a reasonable price?
Apr 11 13:14:09 <imsaguy>	last price? wtf knows
Apr 11 13:14:13 <imsaguy>	deals always going on
Apr 11 13:14:17 <bgupta>	ok the govt doesn't have to kill it kill it.. just needs to prevent it from becoming a threat
Apr 11 13:14:19 <Doffx>	Im looking at 5 different exchanges
Apr 11 13:14:26 <Doffx>	gl finding a good price haha
Apr 11 13:14:38 <bgupta>	allthough mtgox perhaps will do that for them
Apr 11 13:15:00 <imsaguy>	http://i0.sinaimg.cn/gm/2013/0407/U8781P115DT20130407163218.jpg
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Apr 11 13:16:16 <imsaguy>	oh
Apr 11 13:16:19 <imsaguy>	and for more reading
Apr 11 13:16:26 <imsaguy>	this is why we can't carry water on to planes: http://www.techspot.com/news/52211-hacker-demonstrates-how-to-hijack-an-airplane-using-an-android-app.html
Apr 11 13:16:33 <imsaguy>	water = dangerous
Apr 11 13:16:40 <imsaguy>	phones that hack planes = not dangerous
Apr 11 13:16:44 <pandnh4>	bugpowder can you pm me?
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Apr 11 13:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.35 = 6.3 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:20:21 <Doffx>	Great, now you wont be able to bring your phone on the plane either.
Apr 11 13:20:58 <thestring>	;;seen EskimoBob
Apr 11 13:20:58 <gribble>	EskimoBob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 23 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <EskimoBob> look like this party i over
Apr 11 13:21:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.31 = 4.65 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:21:07 <splnkr>	i like this on the Mt Gox FB page 7 hours ago "Maintenance Over however we are now under a DDoS attack."
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Apr 11 13:22:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 13:24:06 <ThickAsThieves>	gox queue at 13000
Apr 11 13:24:14 <ThickAsThieves>	buy buy buy!
Apr 11 13:24:16 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 11 13:24:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00328798 = 0.3288 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 13:28:41 <mod6>	gox trading haulted until 2AM UTC?
Apr 11 13:29:19 <mod6>	https://support.mtgox.com/entries/21519569-Market-Cooldown-for-12-hours
Apr 11 13:29:42 <pigeons>	where have you been?
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Apr 11 13:30:22 <mod6>	*halted
Apr 11 13:30:31 <mod6>	pigeons: afk
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Apr 11 13:30:53 <mod6>	people blowing me up all fuckin night and day
Apr 11 13:31:00 <mod6>	had enough
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Apr 11 13:32:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2 BTC [-]
Apr 11 13:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	"Looks like MtGox not only froze trading but also bitcoin withdrawals, I've withdrawn 4 hours ago prior to trade being stopped and even though it shows the withdraw in my account, there is no record of it in the blockchain whatsoever."
Apr 11 13:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	this a fact ?
Apr 11 13:33:19 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 11 13:33:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i withdrew fine
Apr 11 13:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173433.msg1806337#msg1806337
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Apr 11 13:36:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [-]
Apr 11 13:37:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 13:38:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.3989 = 0.7978 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 13:44:20 <ThickAsThieves>	Lucif is calling $50 low
Apr 11 13:44:32 <ThickAsThieves>	he's cashed out though
Apr 11 13:45:07 <Lyspooner>	i came here to watch mircea_popescu get mad at mt gox
Apr 11 13:45:17 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner lol you're late.
Apr 11 13:45:22 <topace>	Lyspooner: thats why we're all here
Apr 11 13:45:41 <mod6>	heheh. im late too the party too. so don't feel bad. :]
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Apr 11 13:46:02 <Lyspooner>	i'm having a very difficult time buying more coins at 250
Apr 11 13:46:02 <Lyspooner>	what gives?
Apr 11 13:46:14 <mod6>	haha
Apr 11 13:46:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 11 13:46:35 <jcpham>	still holding around 100 otc
Apr 11 13:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/
Apr 11 13:47:28 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173512.msg1805951 also this is pretty lol
Apr 11 13:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34999999 BTC [-]
Apr 11 13:48:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.35 = 10.5 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	funny how the btc that was exchange-crazed flows back to investments.
Apr 11 13:48:43 <jborkl_>	nice blog post mp
Apr 11 13:49:26 <tiberiusiv>	obviously when the btc price goes down fiat derived stocks go up
Apr 11 13:49:31 <tiberiusiv>	like sdice and cavirtex
Apr 11 13:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully kicks some sense into ppls.
Apr 11 13:50:16 <KRS-1>	this rabbit hole goes deep
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Apr 11 13:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	o look! mtgox is doing 70% of all bitcoin trades!
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Apr 11 13:51:22 <ThickAsThieves>	nope 80%
Apr 11 13:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	darn you didn't look quick enough and missed it.
Apr 11 13:51:57 <Lyspooner>	Bruce Wagner doesn't belong in that list
Apr 11 13:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.54 = 3.08 BTC [+]
Apr 11 13:52:16 <mircea_popescu>	not a victim or not of success ?
Apr 11 13:52:36 <Lyspooner>	i don't think he was conceited or deceitful (in bitcoinland)
Apr 11 13:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	you know about his entire prior conviction thing right ?
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Apr 11 13:52:51 <Lyspooner>	yes
Apr 11 13:53:06 <ThickAsThieves>	so when does Mark Karpeles get on the list?
Apr 11 13:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	seems eerly similar to my taste. judge decided he didn't do anything
Apr 11 13:53:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.725 = 7.25 BTC [-]
Apr 11 13:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	he believes he's a victim of own success.
Apr 11 13:56:32 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox will be under 40% market share by the end of the year
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Apr 11 13:59:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00305 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 14:02:33 <evoorhees>	tiberiusiv I agree
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Apr 11 14:03:43 <ThickAsThieves>	Erik are you all settled in now?
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Apr 11 14:03:59 <evoorhees>	as settled as one can be with this crazy market :)
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Apr 11 14:04:18 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah intense
Apr 11 14:04:31 <tiberiusiv>	no real size got out at 200+ anyway
Apr 11 14:04:36 <tiberiusiv>	there were no bids
Apr 11 14:05:24 <punkman>	so exante.eu is not retarded then?
Apr 11 14:07:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 14:11:13 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu, what index do your options settle to again? linky
Apr 11 14:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	$avg
Apr 11 14:11:23 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 148.34
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Apr 11 14:13:19 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox having issues is not the reason the price tanked
Apr 11 14:13:51 <tiberiusiv>	it was massive irrational speculation combined with an extremely illiquid market
Apr 11 14:14:01 <tiberiusiv>	= severe volatility
Apr 11 14:14:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.705 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:14:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.701 = 7.01 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:14:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 0.7 = 11.9 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:14:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.698 = 5.584 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:14:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.697 = 8.364 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:14:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.696 = 9.048 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:14:33 <Lyspooner>	calling it "massive irrational speculation" is very easy to do in hindsight
Apr 11 14:14:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.695 = 1.39 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:14:40 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Apr 11 14:14:45 <tiberiusiv>	no i was calling the top here last week
Apr 11 14:14:47 <ThickAsThieves>	easy to do in foresight too
Apr 11 14:14:55 <tiberiusiv>	and warning of the huge lack of liquidity
Apr 11 14:15:02 <Lyspooner>	good job then
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Apr 11 14:15:05 <tiberiusiv>	which barely anyone understood
Apr 11 14:15:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i think a lot of us just didnt realize it would happen on that exact day
Apr 11 14:15:18 <tiberiusiv>	on a given day barely 0.5% of total bitcoins trade
Apr 11 14:15:34 <tiberiusiv>	so even 1% coming out can collapse the market
Apr 11 14:15:47 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox at peak had only 10-11mil worth of active bids
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Apr 11 14:16:40 <Lyspooner>	there were several people who called it a bubble at 70, say.  Are those people wrong?  Why should we only remember the people who got it right, like tiberiusiv?
Apr 11 14:16:54 <tiberiusiv>	i explained the danger with the lack of liquidity
Apr 11 14:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	lol wut ?
Apr 11 14:17:04 <tiberiusiv>	most in here did not understand how markets function
Apr 11 14:17:21 <tiberiusiv>	my prediction was a blow off top after 100
Apr 11 14:17:27 <tiberiusiv>	i just didnt see it going all the way to almost 300
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Apr 11 14:17:42 <tiberiusiv>	and my best sell was 255
Apr 11 14:18:16 <tiberiusiv>	someone has to make a real exchange with short selling and futures
Apr 11 14:18:23 <tiberiusiv>	that way volatility is greatly reduced
Apr 11 14:19:19 <tiberiusiv>	i think we might be at a bottom though
Apr 11 14:19:51 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox shut down is already priced in
Apr 11 14:20:04 <bVector>	mircea_popescu: this asshat at icbit is a market manipulator just like you said
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Apr 11 14:20:20 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
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Apr 11 14:21:24 <bVector>	he's manually clearing his futures to artificially bring the price down to what he thinks is fair price
Apr 11 14:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 11 14:21:57 <bVector>	I had buy orders in and he cleared it at lowest price of the trading range
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Apr 11 14:22:31 <bVector>	two times in 6 minutes
Apr 11 14:22:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6903 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:22:48 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is a manipulator too though
Apr 11 14:22:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:22:56 <tiberiusiv>	if you buy shares in his business's youll never be able to sell
Apr 11 14:23:00 <tiberiusiv>	he auto brings down ask prices
Apr 11 14:23:24 <tiberiusiv>	go buy shares of bbet and try to sell them.
Apr 11 14:23:27 <pigeons>	i bought shares in mpoe and was able to sell for a lot more than i bought them for at ipo
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Apr 11 14:23:37 <tiberiusiv>	yea maybe a year later
Apr 11 14:23:37 <pigeons>	i bought some more a few weeks ago and sold them all as well
Apr 11 14:23:42 <pigeons>	so thats not very accurate
Apr 11 14:23:48 <tiberiusiv>	go buy bbet
Apr 11 14:23:50 <tiberiusiv>	and try to sell it
Apr 11 14:23:56 <pigeons>	no thanks ;)
Apr 11 14:23:57 <tiberiusiv>	his bot always lists an ask price slightly under yours
Apr 11 14:24:06 <pigeons>	that's not his bot, that's me
Apr 11 14:24:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.75 = 7.5 BTC [+]
Apr 11 14:24:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 115 @ 0.0033 = 0.3795 BTC [+]
Apr 11 14:24:23 <tiberiusiv>	pigeons ?
Apr 11 14:24:25 <pigeons>	yes
Apr 11 14:24:32 <tiberiusiv>	what do you mean you
Apr 11 14:24:40 <bVector>	then sell for a bid
Apr 11 14:24:40 <pigeons>	i mean i'm the one undercutting your asks
Apr 11 14:24:51 <tiberiusiv>	no you arent pigeons
Apr 11 14:24:58 <pigeons>	i'm pretty sure i am
Apr 11 14:24:58 <tiberiusiv>	since you dont have enough shares
Apr 11 14:25:05 <tiberiusiv>	i dont have anything for sale
Apr 11 14:26:01 <mircea_popescu>	"@BryanMicon 9m If anyone wants to sell bitcoins I have a bunch of ppl calling me that want to buy"
Apr 11 14:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 175 @ 0.00328797 = 0.5754 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	micon is starting his own exchange.
Apr 11 14:27:26 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 11 14:27:59 <tiberiusiv>	i doubt there will be major selling when mtgox opens since its already priced in at the other exchanges
Apr 11 14:28:12 <ThickAsThieves>	could be buyiung actually
Apr 11 14:28:20 <tiberiusiv>	agreed
Apr 11 14:28:34 <joecool>	who knows? lots of idiots on gox with wallets they couldn't transfer out
Apr 11 14:28:51 <tiberiusiv>	i bought at btc-e today for 55-60
Apr 11 14:28:58 <tiberiusiv>	easy $
Apr 11 14:29:09 <Namworld>	I couldn't get money to btc-e...
Apr 11 14:29:18 <tiberiusiv>	i sold on there for 150
Apr 11 14:29:27 <Namworld>	oh
Apr 11 14:29:35 <Namworld>	that works
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Apr 11 14:29:41 <tiberiusiv>	then cavirtexed todays 55-60 buy
Apr 11 14:31:03 <tiberiusiv>	cavirtex and btce were the only operating exchanged uninterrupted i think?
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Apr 11 14:32:20 <joecool>	i thought btce was down for abit
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Apr 11 14:32:41 <pigeons>	everyday but today
Apr 11 14:32:47 <joecool>	lol
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Apr 11 14:33:27 <tiberiusiv>	btce never goes down it has some glitches
Apr 11 14:33:32 <tiberiusiv>	but ive never had any problems with them
Apr 11 14:33:43 <tiberiusiv>	always fast transfers
Apr 11 14:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 11 14:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	they kept getting ddos'd fora while there
Apr 11 14:34:26 <ThickAsThieves>	they had some sensitive anti-ddos settings that were locking out their own customers for a while
Apr 11 14:34:33 <ThickAsThieves>	that got sorted a couple weeks ago
Apr 11 14:34:49 <ThickAsThieves>	i had to use tor a few times to access the site
Apr 11 14:35:04 <ThickAsThieves>	now the tor IPs are banned
Apr 11 14:36:01 <Uglux>	what the fuck
Apr 11 14:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.302 = 4.53 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:36:48 <ThickAsThieves>	just wake up?
Apr 11 14:36:51 <lippoper>	lol
Apr 11 14:37:24 <Uglux>	what happened to price lol
Apr 11 14:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.3010101 = 4.2141 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:38:09 <pigeons>	price got goxxed
Apr 11 14:39:10 <Uglux>	looks like 2011 just with some more zeros
Apr 11 14:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.3001 = 4.8016 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	in 2011 it was hacked too
Apr 11 14:40:19 <lippoper>	the dream is over
Apr 11 14:40:22 <lippoper>	bitcoins are dead :-(
Apr 11 14:40:55 <lippoper>	What the hell is this?   http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c2u1x/operation_foolscoin/ OPERATION APRIL FOOLSCOIN  Targets: MtGox, BTCE, Bitcoin24, Bitstamp  Mission statement:  The recent sell-off was only partially successful for several reasons:   Fresh blood looking to buy Overly bullish market Only one exchange targeted   April 1st occurs at the end of a bank holiday, fiat will be running  low on the exchanges and it is the perfect time
Apr 11 14:41:13 <pigeons>	nonsense
Apr 11 14:42:42 <pgp>	fuck 62 in bitstamp
Apr 11 14:42:56 <lippoper>	84 at btc-e
Apr 11 14:43:01 <tiberiusiv>	115 on virtex
Apr 11 14:43:05 <lippoper>	120 at Gox LOL
Apr 11 14:43:24 <pgp>	send money to slovenia- quick!
Apr 11 14:43:35 <lippoper>	*trLOL
Apr 11 14:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [-]
Apr 11 14:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	lippoper lol
Apr 11 14:44:49 <orkaa>	i'm already selling my bitstamp dollars to friends
Apr 11 14:44:50 <orkaa>	hehe
Apr 11 14:44:51 <jborkl_>	54 on bitstamp
Apr 11 14:45:24 <jborkl_>	110 on VTX
Apr 11 14:45:55 <pgp>	hard to know how to play this when gox opens...
Apr 11 14:47:01 <jborkl_>	I have some cash on Gox, I am going to put a big at 15 when it opens
Apr 11 14:47:16 <jborkl_>	bid
Apr 11 14:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol think it'll touch 15 ?
Apr 11 14:47:54 <jborkl_>	 panic dipshits with market orders
Apr 11 14:48:00 <jborkl_>	maybe
Apr 11 14:48:18 <deyyo>	$50.05	83.04553425	$4,156.43
Apr 11 14:48:22 <deyyo>	sellers on stamp
Apr 11 14:48:45 <pgp>	you know - I wouldn't be surprised to see it go down to 25-30 and maybe stay there for a little while.  Bubble have a funny way of popping...
Apr 11 14:48:56 <Uglux>	wow cheep coins
Apr 11 14:49:10 <pgp>	pendulum swings all the way to the other side...
Apr 11 14:49:12 <KRS-1>	u mean the price finding the real avg
Apr 11 14:49:40 <KRS-1>	mkt. price circa Feb 2013?
Apr 11 14:49:45 <lippoper>	the real avg is $35 isn't it?
Apr 11 14:50:01 <pgp>	we have a few months of fast money noobs to reset...
Apr 11 14:50:09 <ThickAsThieves>	35-50
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Apr 11 14:50:38 <pgp>	< 50 seems enevitable to me...
Apr 11 14:50:44 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 11 14:50:45 <gribble>	67544.3670323
Apr 11 14:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's not under 50 atm anywhere tho
Apr 11 14:51:17 <pgp>	looking at my crystal ball
Apr 11 14:51:25 <kakobrekla>	its at 50
Apr 11 14:51:30 <ThickAsThieves>	still possible taht those 15000 in gox q wanna sell not buy
Apr 11 14:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	that's true.
Apr 11 14:51:59 <mircea_popescu>	course it's also possible gox comes up with sorry hax
Apr 11 14:52:03 <mircea_popescu>	and fades away
Apr 11 14:52:08 <jborkl_>	I wonder if it will stil be 100 bitcoins for a avalon, lol
Apr 11 14:52:09 <mircea_popescu>	in which case btc ---> 1
Apr 11 14:52:14 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ lol
Apr 11 14:52:30 <ThickAsThieves>	gox just has to last long enough to get my cash out 1k at a time
Apr 11 14:52:32 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 11 14:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	i guess nzhang guy has the chance of his life to show midnightmagic how ethical he is.
Apr 11 14:52:39 <pigeons>	structuring!
Apr 11 14:52:58 <pgp>	you know, I've alway been suspicious of withdrawl limits - any chance that gox might be having a liquidity crisis or sorts?
Apr 11 14:53:00 <jborkl_>	We have a announcment- we are pricing avalon in $ now
Apr 11 14:53:00 <mircea_popescu>	"we will sell these miners below cost nao"
Apr 11 14:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	pgp it's been suspected.
Apr 11 14:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	without the smoking gun of them actually not payingh out anymore hard to prove.
Apr 11 14:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	and they've had periods in the past when thery've held people's 10's of k's for weeks/months just cause
Apr 11 14:53:51 <joecool>	well it was already easy to fake the order book
Apr 11 14:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	so it'll be tough toi know they've run off even 3 months after the fact.
Apr 11 14:54:01 <joecool>	just place lots of orders with an empty wallet
Apr 11 14:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	joecool afaik those don't shopw
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Apr 11 14:54:25 <jborkl_>	no, they do not show up
Apr 11 14:54:32 <ThickAsThieves>	you'd need at least .01 btc
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Apr 11 14:55:27 <lippoper>	ThickAsThieves: now that Mt.Cocks doesn't support Mt.Cocks cash coupons, people are selling out and/or withdrawing their funds from there.  If they missed the chance, they are trying to get verified in order to be able to withdraw
Apr 11 14:55:36 <lippoper>	in USD
Apr 11 14:55:45 <Uglux>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173641.0  there you go^^
Apr 11 14:55:57 <lippoper>	those thousands of new accounts could be people trying to get their USD out
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Apr 11 14:56:45 <pgp>	definately further downside...
Apr 11 14:56:47 <lippoper>	Uglux, it only makes sense that they're planning on freezing all the accounts
Apr 11 14:56:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4427 @ 0.00071432 = 3.1623 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 14:57:00 <lippoper>	including but not limited to all the currencies and coins in your wallet
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Apr 11 14:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	<pgp> definately further downside... <<< i dunno about this mommentum mindset.
Apr 11 14:59:04 <mircea_popescu>	at 240 people were "definitely more upside" now "definitely more downside"
Apr 11 14:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	there's nothing definite here.
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Apr 11 14:59:14 <Rlx>	Hello
Apr 11 14:59:24 <jborkl_>	bitstamp 70
Apr 11 14:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	hi
Apr 11 14:59:30 <Uglux>	mircea_popescu, will you tolerate a AM PT?
Apr 11 14:59:32 <jborkl_>	VTX 114
Apr 11 14:59:32 <Rlx>	I have a question about bitbet
Apr 11 14:59:54 <mircea_popescu>	Uglux what's that ?
Apr 11 14:59:59 <mircea_popescu>	Rlx shoot
Apr 11 15:00:46 <Rlx>	I'm not absolutely sure if i bet on something, where can i check that out?
Apr 11 15:00:51 <Uglux>	i mean ann ASICMINER passthrough on mpex
Apr 11 15:01:16 <mircea_popescu>	Rlx your receiving address should be on the bet
Apr 11 15:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	you can also search for it on the site
Apr 11 15:01:31 <mircea_popescu>	Uglux passthrough no. if they sign a contract they can be listed like anyone else.
Apr 11 15:01:37 <Rlx>	Oh ok, thank you
Apr 11 15:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	obviously would recognise pt held shares.
Apr 11 15:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	afaik everyone running pts already has accounts on mpex anyway so wouldn't be a big deal.
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Apr 11 15:04:10 <guruvan>	[08:13:39] <mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu> mtgox must go. <<< can't tell ya how many times I've heard this today....online and at home
Apr 11 15:04:22 <mircea_popescu>	ya well... it's da truth
Apr 11 15:04:26 <bVector>	haha got a reporter talking to me about icbit
Apr 11 15:04:49 <bVector>	torn between discrediting bitcoin by trashing this exchange or ...
Apr 11 15:04:56 <guruvan>	I agree - I haven't actually used them for months now
Apr 11 15:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think you're discrediting bitcoin by speaking the truth.
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Apr 11 15:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	at any juncture and in any context.
Apr 11 15:05:22 <bVector>	agreed
Apr 11 15:05:27 <mircea_popescu>	just make sure tis the truth.
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Apr 11 15:06:34 <Namworld>	process the deposit/withdrawal queue please Mircea =P
Apr 11 15:06:51 <guruvan>	this channel is so much more calm about the drop today...lol - #bitcoin-otc is so full of stressball cases
Apr 11 15:07:43 <Namworld>	good riddance...
Apr 11 15:07:54 <Namworld>	although it's somewhat sad for them, really...
Apr 11 15:08:02 <Namworld>	People who lost money...
Apr 11 15:08:09 <Lyspooner>	is there a channel where mention of exchange rates to other currencies gets one banned
Apr 11 15:08:11 <guruvan>	weak hands
Apr 11 15:08:18 <Namworld>	life savings... divorces and suicides will probably occur...
Apr 11 15:08:25 <guruvan>	Namworld: you're running one of the Dice PTs on BTC-TC? but not the one on LTC-Global, correct?
Apr 11 15:08:34 <Namworld>	Correct
Apr 11 15:08:34 <guruvan>	don't invest more than you can lose peoples
Apr 11 15:08:38 <mod6>	^^^
Apr 11 15:08:59 <Doffx>	Why would they stress out?
Apr 11 15:09:08 <Doffx>	This happens a lot in BTC
Apr 11 15:09:11 <Namworld>	Seriously... why do people who never touched/looked at BTC suddenly flock into it AFTER it raised a few hundred percents in value over a few weeks?
Apr 11 15:09:11 <guruvan>	$200/coin loss
Apr 11 15:09:13 <guruvan>	haha
Apr 11 15:09:15 <Doffx>	Guess we have all been through it a few times
Apr 11 15:09:23 <mod6>	yeah
Apr 11 15:09:29 <jborkl_>	micrea_popescu , deposit flush
Apr 11 15:09:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.75 = 6.75 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 15:09:51 <guruvan>	I let a client buy into the rally.......I really shoulda hedged her purchase....live & learn
Apr 11 15:10:13 <EskimoBob>	pervert popescu using a word "truth"? LOL!
Apr 11 15:10:25 <Namworld>	Thanks mircea
Apr 11 15:10:27 <guruvan>	but we damn sure won't let clients sell into a bottom feeding frenzy
Apr 11 15:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld no, we're in a cool-off period right now
Apr 11 15:11:12 <kakobrekla>	cool off meaning taking bids out?
Apr 11 15:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	mostly doing our hair.
Apr 11 15:11:36 <Namworld>	No, it's a joke...
Apr 11 15:11:44 <Namworld>	from MtGox freezing trades to "cool off"
Apr 11 15:11:53 <kakobrekla>	CPU got too hot
Apr 11 15:11:57 <kakobrekla>	from all the lag reuquests
Apr 11 15:11:58 <Namworld>	We're not crashing, we're "cooling off"
Apr 11 15:12:06 <mod6>	bitcoin time-out
Apr 11 15:12:08 <mod6>	lol
Apr 11 15:12:09 <guruvan>	lol kakobrekla
Apr 11 15:12:15 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i just meant re mpex processing withdrawals.
Apr 11 15:12:30 <Namworld>	oh
Apr 11 15:12:44 <mod6>	!ticker m O.USD.P500T
Apr 11 15:12:45 <assbot>	The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
Apr 11 15:13:02 <Namworld>	eheh,thought it was about the price crash and people losing money =P
Apr 11 15:13:06 <mod6>	damnit assbot
Apr 11 15:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	masybe that one never traded so not on the list mod6
Apr 11 15:13:09 <Namworld>	and that you were quoting gox
Apr 11 15:13:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 21551 @ 0.00328797 = 70.859 BTC [-]
Apr 11 15:13:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00328798 = 4.6032 BTC [+]
Apr 11 15:13:15 <guruvan>	lol assbot
Apr 11 15:13:17 <mod6>	oh maybe
Apr 11 15:13:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00328799 = 6.576 BTC [+]
Apr 11 15:13:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1771 @ 0.003289 = 5.8248 BTC [+]
Apr 11 15:13:26 <guruvan>	daquq kinda answer was that
Apr 11 15:13:35 <deadweasel>	alright, sdice rally
Apr 11 15:13:44 <guruvan>	woohoo
Apr 11 15:13:53 <kakobrekla>	guruvan you been gone for a long time eh
Apr 11 15:14:06 <deadweasel>	let's all go bet what we have left on sdice, then erik can be stuck with our worthless btc... ;)
Apr 11 15:14:14 <tiberiusiv>	sdice is a great way to hedge against btc price decline
Apr 11 15:14:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3700 @ 0.00333328 = 12.3331 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 15:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	ya i wonder if high volatility correlates with high sdice betting
Apr 11 15:14:38 <InstantBTC>	is that why sdice going up?
Apr 11 15:14:39 <Doffx>	Why, tiberiusiv?
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Apr 11 15:14:58 <tiberiusiv>	mircea no it doesnt duffus.
Apr 11 15:15:02 <Doffx>	I am honestly curious.
Apr 11 15:15:03 <tiberiusiv>	sdice income is fiat derived
Apr 11 15:15:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [+]
Apr 11 15:15:09 <ThickAsThieves>	because USD value goes down, BTC per bet goes up
Apr 11 15:15:15 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 11 15:15:17 <mod6>	O.USD.P500T => S => Price: 2474007981 Volume: 1000 O.O
Apr 11 15:15:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00333328 = 6.6666 BTC [+]
Apr 11 15:15:19 <Doffx>	oh
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Apr 11 15:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	$depth p500t
Apr 11 15:15:36 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: O.USD.P500T Bids: ['1000 @ 2.39515694']
Apr 11 15:15:37 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 24.74007981']
Apr 11 15:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	sweet lol
Apr 11 15:15:46 <Doffx>	So you are speculating that more people will be thus more profits for april?
Apr 11 15:15:53 <Doffx>	err bet*
Apr 11 15:15:59 <ThickAsThieves>	not more people
Apr 11 15:16:02 <ThickAsThieves>	larger bets
Apr 11 15:16:04 <ThickAsThieves>	in BTC
Apr 11 15:16:17 <Doffx>	Ahh ok
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Apr 11 15:18:39 <guruvan>	kakobrekla: gone from IRC - not from bitcoin.....my house has crappy satellite internet, so IRC has been out of the question for a few months
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Apr 11 15:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.35 = 7 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 15:20:16 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe Lucif got a chart pic of the moments after 265  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.msg1807696#msg1807696
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Apr 11 15:23:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3989 @ 0.00070902 = 2.8283 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 15:25:15 <jborkl_>	and bitstamp is down..
Apr 11 15:25:44 <pgp>	bitfloor sub 60
Apr 11 15:25:56 <pgp>	just getting uglier and uglier
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Apr 11 15:26:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Apr 11 15:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 15:28:18 <Scrat>	;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173641.0
Apr 11 15:28:21 <gribble>	Mt.GOX Can't withdraw USD
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Apr 11 15:28:34 <punkman>	anyone have some bitstampUSD to sell?
Apr 11 15:28:43 <Scrat>	can anyone confirm?
Apr 11 15:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.34 = 7.48 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 15:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4570 @ 0.00333328 = 15.2331 BTC [+]
Apr 11 15:30:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 6351 @ 0.00333333 = 21.17 BTC [+]
Apr 11 15:30:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.76099 = 1.522 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 15:31:58 <bgupta>	Namworld: I'd guess because they hadn't heard of it before.
Apr 11 15:31:58 <pgp>	bitfloor 53
Apr 11 15:32:21 <splnkr>	Scrat: i was able to withdraw to Dwolla just now from MtGox
Apr 11 15:32:34 <splnkr>	they have changed their withdrawal process though and didn't explain it well
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Apr 11 15:33:06 <splnkr>	now to withdraw, first you have to "add a withdraw method" and then wait a while (like overnight) for it to become an option
Apr 11 15:33:27 <splnkr>	i think people are mistaking the inability to withdraw without going through this process for the inability to withdraw altogether
Apr 11 15:33:39 <Scrat>	it might be country specific
Apr 11 15:33:49 <splnkr>	i'm talking about USD
Apr 11 15:33:57 <splnkr>	well yeah
Apr 11 15:34:03 <splnkr>	dwolla is only available in us
Apr 11 15:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.300001 = 1.8 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 15:34:14 <splnkr>	but bank transfer still appears to be an option as well
Apr 11 15:34:29 <splnkr>	but again you have to "add a withdraw method" with the bank in advance
Apr 11 15:35:16 <lippoper>	SPLNKR: and have to be verified right?
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Apr 11 15:35:44 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 11 15:35:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.95000, Best ask: 124.90000, Bid-ask spread: 5.95000, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 211992.07740389, 24 hour low: 106.10000, 24 hour high: 203.00000, 24 hour vwap: 158.25213
Apr 11 15:35:51 <splnkr>	not sure, most likely
Apr 11 15:36:02 <lippoper>	Are you verified with Mt.Gox?
Apr 11 15:36:30 <lippoper>	splnkr: are you verified?
Apr 11 15:36:41 <splnkr>	why
Apr 11 15:37:01 <lippoper>	(3:32:21 PM) splnkr: Scrat: i was able to withdraw to Dwolla just now from MtGox
Apr 11 15:37:05 <lippoper>	did I misread that?
Apr 11 15:37:09 <splnkr>	no.
Apr 11 15:37:33 <lippoper>	so you're not verified?
Apr 11 15:37:57 <splnkr>	what is your question about mtgox
Apr 11 15:38:22 <lippoper>	Do you have to be verified to withdraw using Dwolla today?
Apr 11 15:38:47 <bit_nutz_>	gribble, where are those prices you just quoted?   i'm seeing sub 60 bitstamp, bitfloor, bit24...
Apr 11 15:39:16 <jborkl_>	they have to have dwolla funds available. they easily could be out and they have to add more
Apr 11 15:39:18 <lippoper>	bit_nutz_: the ticker is frozen on Gox and gribble is using their frozen data.
Apr 11 15:39:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P089T] 2 @ 0.78 = 1.56 BTC [+]
Apr 11 15:39:44 <bit_nutz_>	thank you lippoper
Apr 11 15:39:47 <bitesak>	The price is sub 60?
Apr 11 15:39:52 <jborkl_>	dwolla is only instant if you have funds on dwolla itself
Apr 11 15:40:12 <lippoper>	jborkl_: b.s. it's much more likely that splnkr is trolling
Apr 11 15:40:27 <jborkl_>	oh ok,nm
Apr 11 15:40:30 <lippoper>	he was talking about withdrawing money OUT
Apr 11 15:40:48 <lippoper>	and can't even say yes/no if he's verified
Apr 11 15:40:50 <jborkl_>	yeah, they have to add money to mutum sigglim
Apr 11 15:40:56 <jborkl_>	or whatever the name is
Apr 11 15:41:11 <bit_nutz_>	bitesak: i just saw a 53 print
Apr 11 15:41:19 <Bugpowder_>	90% sure this guy is just confused
Apr 11 15:41:24 <lippoper>	all assets on mt.gox are frozen, not even btc transfers are actually being done.
Apr 11 15:41:34 <bit_nutz_>	epic crash
Apr 11 15:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	lippoper how do you know that ?
Apr 11 15:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	i've heard reports both ways
Apr 11 15:42:04 <pgp>	anbody know anything about these exante guys out of malta?
Apr 11 15:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	pgp keiser's scamthing.
Apr 11 15:42:36 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu: keiser is connected with exante?
Apr 11 15:42:45 <pgp>	really
Apr 11 15:42:48 <splnkr>	lippoper: i'm not confused. i explained the situation 10 mins ago you didn't read everything i wrote
Apr 11 15:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	welllll.... he's pushing them
Apr 11 15:43:38 <pgp>	he must have privately sold them their stash of coins, then...
Apr 11 15:43:44 <jborkl_>	I just sent a small amount of btc to gox, see what happens
Apr 11 15:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	@maxkeiser 10 Apr
Apr 11 15:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	I'll be speaking at Exante.eu hedge fund conference in Portugal on May 24th. Whatever the price of BTC before this event: double it.
Apr 11 15:43:46 <lippoper>	@mircea: I think the reports saying they were able to get money/btc out are all fake, trying to prevent the bottom hitting.
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Apr 11 15:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	lippoper ThickAsThieves was saying earlier. i don't imagine he's faking it
Apr 11 15:44:02 <bitesak>	bit_nutz_ epic indeed !
Apr 11 15:44:13 <lippoper>	but he did it right before they actually froze everything
Apr 11 15:44:15 <mircea_popescu>	moreover they may have cut it off after he got it out
Apr 11 15:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	maxkeiser 10 Apr
Apr 11 15:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	I'm working with Exante.eu to broker deals getting London hedge funds into BTC. We've got more than $1 bn. lined up.#KeepMiningWeveGotOrders
Apr 11 15:44:36 <jborkl_>	after 12 hours and I get 1 confirm- I will report back
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Apr 11 15:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	Lyspooner as you can see... retard.
Apr 11 15:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	who in london even heard of him ?
Apr 11 15:44:47 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 11 15:44:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.95000, Best ask: 124.90000, Bid-ask spread: 5.95000, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 208554.52358335, 24 hour low: 110.20003, 24 hour high: 203.00000, 24 hour vwap: 158.68466
Apr 11 15:44:49 <mircea_popescu>	in a professional capacity i mean.
Apr 11 15:44:55 <bowjob>	huh..
Apr 11 15:44:56 <bowjob>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 15:44:57 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 9.530755 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0190995263083 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).
Apr 11 15:44:59 <ThickAsThieves>	everything works in Gox except making orders
Apr 11 15:45:01 <Scrat>	ticker is wrong
Apr 11 15:45:02 <bowjob>	i thought he hit 55 dollatrs
Apr 11 15:45:06 <ThickAsThieves>	cancelling is tricky
Apr 11 15:45:06 <bowjob>	FUck
Apr 11 15:45:06 <bowjob>	I missed it!
Apr 11 15:45:09 <bowjob>	ME
Apr 11 15:45:37 <ThickAsThieves>	you have to click cancel on ONE order and just leave the window alone for a few mins
Apr 11 15:45:41 <ThickAsThieves>	then later reload
Apr 11 15:45:47 <ThickAsThieves>	and your order will be gone
Apr 11 15:45:59 <ThickAsThieves>	then do the next one
Apr 11 15:46:07 <lippoper>	last I checked it, you can only place orders at market price
Apr 11 15:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	a few minutesd ?
Apr 11 15:46:24 <mircea_popescu>	lippoper that sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Apr 11 15:46:36 <lippoper>	yeah
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Apr 11 15:46:49 <lippoper>	it seems like it'll be DDoS on resume
Apr 11 15:46:56 <lippoper>	just from sheer
Apr 11 15:47:01 <lippoper>	volume of people withdrawing
Apr 11 15:47:08 <lippoper>	could cause true bottom to hit :-(
Apr 11 15:47:18 <lippoper>	i'm afraid, very afraid of 10pm ET tonight
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Apr 11 15:47:42 <Bugpowder>	I am going to buy like crazy
Apr 11 15:47:50 <Scrat>	i am going to fap like crazy
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Apr 11 15:47:58 <lippoper>	I am going to cry some more
Apr 11 15:48:07 <Bugpowder>	never waste a good crisis
Apr 11 15:48:14 <jborkl_>	bugpowder will be bust in the trollbox
Apr 11 15:48:18 <jborkl_>	busy
Apr 11 15:48:24 <lippoper>	but, all my money just became worthless
Apr 11 15:48:39 <Bugpowder>	really though?
Apr 11 15:48:50 <lippoper>	not ALL, but all the investment money and then some I had
Apr 11 15:48:59 <lippoper>	like it's half now
Apr 11 15:49:01 <Bugpowder>	Well 1, you should have cashed out all the way up
Apr 11 15:49:10 <Bowjob_>	;;ticker
Apr 11 15:49:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.95000, Best ask: 124.90000, Bid-ask spread: 5.95000, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 207674.53841988, 24 hour low: 110.20003, 24 hour high: 203.00000, 24 hour vwap: 158.78790
Apr 11 15:49:11 <Bugpowder>	2) this is going to be an awesome buying opp
Apr 11 15:49:12 <lippoper>	at $55
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Apr 11 15:49:54 <bit_nutz>	apologies for the rudimentary question: Is gribble a bot or something?
Apr 11 15:49:58 <pgp>	@ $32
Apr 11 15:49:58 <Bugpowder>	What about bitcoin has fundamentally changed between 2 days ago and today
Apr 11 15:50:00 <Bugpowder>	nothing
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Apr 11 15:50:05 <lippoper>	no gribble is cool
Apr 11 15:50:24 <lippoper>	except, it's apparent market value
Apr 11 15:50:31 <bit_nutz>	why is he/it quoting bad info?
Apr 11 15:50:41 <lippoper>	he's quoting Mt.Gox info only
Apr 11 15:51:00 <lippoper>	Mt.Gox is frozen, so it's not bad, it's just not what all of the other exchanges are trading at.
Apr 11 15:51:12 <ThickAsThieves>	okay
Apr 11 15:51:20 <ThickAsThieves>	keep some things in mind
Apr 11 15:51:25 <Scrat>	;;echo I'm not a bot
Apr 11 15:51:25 <gribble>	I'm not a bot
Apr 11 15:51:31 <Bowjob_>	;;ticker
Apr 11 15:51:31 <guruvan>	lol
Apr 11 15:51:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.95000, Best ask: 124.90000, Bid-ask spread: 5.95000, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 207018.49103167, 24 hour low: 110.20003, 24 hour high: 203.00000, 24 hour vwap: 158.87151
Apr 11 15:51:38 <ThickAsThieves>	1. there is a new market price
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Apr 11 15:51:42 <Bowjob_>	Hey how come mt gox is 120 bucks
Apr 11 15:51:45 <Bowjob_>	but.. the rest is like 60
Apr 11 15:51:47 <Bowjob_>	?
Apr 11 15:51:52 <guruvan>	not trading
Apr 11 15:51:57 <ThickAsThieves>	buyers will be very hesitant to pay more than they need to
Apr 11 15:51:57 <Scrat>	Bowjob_: dude get with the times... gox froze all trads 6 hours ago
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Apr 11 15:52:06 <Bowjob_>	i just slept lol
Apr 11 15:52:09 <Bowjob_>	i mean woke up
Apr 11 15:52:10 <ThickAsThieves>	2. Gox orderbooks will be EMPTY
Apr 11 15:52:19 <Bowjob_>	is it moving to coinlab
Apr 11 15:52:19 <ThickAsThieves>	this means the price is free to run
Apr 11 15:52:24 <Bowjob_>	ah
Apr 11 15:52:28 <ThickAsThieves>	in any and all directions
Apr 11 15:52:37 <ThickAsThieves>	mostly gox is cash right now
Apr 11 15:52:41 <pgp>	it will be mayhem
Apr 11 15:52:46 <Scrat>	Bowjob_: hopefully it is moving to a darker place
Apr 11 15:52:52 <ThickAsThieves>	so it could run up, but if it does, it will fall right back down
Apr 11 15:52:53 <Scrat>	like I don't know. a coffin?
Apr 11 15:52:55 <bit_nutz>	ah, thanks.  no offense intended!  just asking why :)
Apr 11 15:53:06 <mod6>	the 200DMA @ bitcoin charts shows like 63: http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg90zig6-hourztgSzbgBza1gTMAzm1g50za2gTMAzm2g200zi1gMACDzi2gWilliamRzi3gCVolatilityzv
Apr 11 15:53:07 <mod6>	so that's not far off
Apr 11 15:53:24 <mod6>	Bowjob_: ^^
Apr 11 15:53:38 <Bowjob_>	I want to see single digits again
Apr 11 15:53:40 <pgp>	i have to try not drink too much before mt gox opens...  10 PM EST, right...
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Apr 11 15:53:45 <Bowjob_>	I'll buy the shit out of them
Apr 11 15:53:47 <pgp>	gonna be crazy
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Apr 11 15:54:16 <guruvan>	mod6: yep - that's what I've been looking at the last 24hrs
Apr 11 15:54:25 <lippoper>	ThickAsThieves, anyone in the know here will be buying up btc in Mt.Gox for cheap, $10-$50 range...
Apr 11 15:54:25 <lippoper>	Anyone panicking about the bubble burst (most people) will try to cash out as soon as possible for as cheap as possible.
Apr 11 15:54:25 <lippoper>	Your cheap investment into btc, will be just that, and it might even go lower.
Apr 11 15:54:29 <alex12>	Hello, where abouts could i look to pickup some FPGA units?
Apr 11 15:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	alex12 never seen anyone trying to sell.
Apr 11 15:54:58 <Scrat>	lippoper I think it's safe to say that everyone here is in it for the long haul
Apr 11 15:55:11 <pgp>	yes
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Apr 11 15:55:29 <alex12>	lippoper: then how does one obtain them?
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Apr 11 15:55:30 <Bowjob_>	unfortunately i dont have fiat
Apr 11 15:55:50 <ThickAsThieves>	if btc falls under 50, it could be really bad
Apr 11 15:55:58 <pgp>	seems to me that the denizens of #bitcoin-assets *are* the grownups of hitcoin world...
Apr 11 15:56:06 <ThickAsThieves>	thats like hitting reset on this entire run up
Apr 11 15:56:10 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves there is alot of support there
Apr 11 15:56:16 <ThickAsThieves>	i hope so
Apr 11 15:56:19 <lippoper>	alex12: was talking about when Gox resumes tonight.
Apr 11 15:56:21 <tiberiusiv>	boucned twice already on btc-e
Apr 11 15:56:23 <tiberiusiv>	in the 50's
Apr 11 15:56:34 <lippoper>	Scrat: Yes, but how long til we see that $100 figure again?
Apr 11 15:56:35 <InstantBTC>	bitstamp is down
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Apr 11 15:56:54 <ThickAsThieves>	we'll see 100 tonight probably, and then 50 again
Apr 11 15:57:05 <lippoper>	you're right
Apr 11 15:57:08 <ThickAsThieves>	its gonna be wild
Apr 11 15:57:16 <ThickAsThieves>	or not!
Apr 11 15:57:17 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 11 15:57:18 <tiberiusiv>	its bouncing off the 200dma
Apr 11 15:57:20 <lippoper>	it will open at 120, so first come first serve
Apr 11 15:57:23 <alex12>	lippoper: ah ...
Apr 11 15:57:32 <ThickAsThieves>	it will not open at 120
Apr 11 15:57:37 <alex12>	lippoper: sorry, my message was ment for mircea_popescu
Apr 11 15:57:37 <lippoper>	only time before the asks outweight the bids and the price drops like a stone.
Apr 11 15:57:40 <ThickAsThieves>	it will open empty
Apr 11 15:57:45 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe just asks
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Apr 11 15:58:11 <bit_nutz>	such big price discrepancies across exchanges...why aren't these getting arb'd away?
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Apr 11 15:58:33 <lippoper>	first thing I'll do when it resumes is sell at $100 and put in a buy order for $25.00
Apr 11 15:58:37 <lippoper>	that sounds right
Apr 11 15:58:52 <Scrat>	few people were setup to arb that sort of volume
Apr 11 15:58:54 <lippoper>	it'll probably get filled within the hour
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Apr 11 15:59:29 <lippoper>	thouhts?
Apr 11 15:59:31 <lippoper>	thoughts?
Apr 11 15:59:34 <Scrat>	;;btceusd
Apr 11 15:59:35 <gribble>	{"ticker":{"high":199.53999,"low":52.999,"avg":126.269495,"vol":7769078.44047,"vol_cur":64617.31679,"last":70,"buy":70.001,"sell":70,"server_time":1365710367}}
Apr 11 15:59:41 <tiberiusiv>	doubt the price goes under 55
Apr 11 15:59:42 <Scrat>	is vol total?
Apr 11 15:59:43 <Bowjob_>	probably not, i mean i think theres lots of idiots
Apr 11 15:59:55 <Scrat>	btce did today almost 10% of their total volume
Apr 11 15:59:56 <Bowjob_>	but.. come on man i have faith in my fellow man
Apr 11 15:59:59 <tiberiusiv>	its finding support @ 200dma and most of the people that joined in the last few weeks have been wiped out
Apr 11 16:00:12 <Bowjob_>	Its 94 at virtex
Apr 11 16:00:15 <tiberiusiv>	scrat: ?
Apr 11 16:00:17 <Scrat>	1%, bah
Apr 11 16:00:23 <tiberiusiv>	btce did 50% of mtgox volume today
Apr 11 16:00:26 <Scrat>	nevermind me
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Apr 11 16:00:39 <Scrat>	eyes tired
Apr 11 16:01:34 <tiberiusiv>	70k coins traded on btce is a record for them
Apr 11 16:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1461 @ 0.00070902 = 1.0359 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 16:03:00 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: If it falls under 50 it could be really good.
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Apr 11 16:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.65 = 3.3 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:07:24 <Bowjob_>	http://bitbet.us/bet/403/bitcoin-at-420-on-or-before-4-20/
Apr 11 16:07:30 <Bowjob_>	FREE BTC for you guys
Apr 11 16:07:31 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug,  I agree
Apr 11 16:07:35 <ThickAsThieves>	only because
Apr 11 16:07:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont care about price now
Apr 11 16:07:41 <pgp>	just noticed that BFL's preorder prices for "net gen" products jumped from $20 GH/s to $50 GH/s...  Dunno when that happened, but economic of mining are changing fast...
Apr 11 16:07:45 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm cashed out
Apr 11 16:07:50 <ThickAsThieves>	waiting for lowest price
Apr 11 16:08:09 <ThickAsThieves>	all mt btc is what i have in stocks
Apr 11 16:08:22 <lippoper>	lucky
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Apr 11 16:09:16 <ThickAsThieves>	honestly, my buying will be pretty timid
Apr 11 16:09:19 <Bowjob_>	on ht ebright side. the next bullrun will be
Apr 11 16:09:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i cashed out at a healthy profit
Apr 11 16:09:25 <Bowjob_>	quad digits
Apr 11 16:09:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not gonna go pay some midmarket price
Apr 11 16:09:40 <ThickAsThieves>	and compromise that
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Apr 11 16:10:12 <Bowjob_>	I'm still wondering if we;re emperor with no clothes
Apr 11 16:10:15 <pgp>	just sit on your hands folks...
Apr 11 16:10:27 <pgp>	be patient
Apr 11 16:10:35 <Bowjob_>	I mean, I've won the game, money in, profit out
Apr 11 16:10:43 <tiberiusiv>	fastcash4bitcoins is buying @ 119
Apr 11 16:10:56 <tiberiusiv>	is it real?
Apr 11 16:11:00 <pgp>	can't be
Apr 11 16:11:10 <pgp>	quoting from gox?
Apr 11 16:11:26 <Bugpowder>	it doesn't have funds
Apr 11 16:11:31 <Scrat>	yeah it's gox last
Apr 11 16:11:46 <Bowjob_>	bug, did u get some puts
Apr 11 16:11:58 <Bugpowder>	I did
Apr 11 16:12:02 <Bugpowder>	but the trade was revoked
Apr 11 16:12:06 <taub>	 tiberiusiv> btce did 50% of mtgox volume today
Apr 11 16:12:08 <taub>	and no lag!
Apr 11 16:12:11 <ThickAsThieves>	O.o
Apr 11 16:12:26 <tiberiusiv>	lol bugpowder
Apr 11 16:12:30 <tiberiusiv>	revoked why?
Apr 11 16:12:32 <Scrat>	russian tech
Apr 11 16:12:37 <tiberiusiv>	gypsy mircea dont want to take the loss
Apr 11 16:12:55 <Bugpowder>	<mircea_popescu> your buy and the bot's cancelling hit in the same second. the bot was a few miliseconds earlier. the trade engine correctly identified the trade as going to book. the server you were talking to however did not. [14:09] <mircea_popescu> it's ungodly that it has needed almost two hours to come to sense, there's been a host of syncing issues under today;s load.
Apr 11 16:13:06 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 11 16:13:08 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 11 16:13:17 <ThickAsThieves>	Did you get a receipt?
Apr 11 16:13:19 <taub>	i think mp covering his ass
Apr 11 16:13:21 <taub>	:p
Apr 11 16:13:21 <Bugpowder>	I did
Apr 11 16:13:25 <ThickAsThieves>	sooooo
Apr 11 16:13:34 <tiberiusiv>	no shit taub
Apr 11 16:13:39 <ThickAsThieves>	thats proof of purchase right?
Apr 11 16:13:42 <tiberiusiv>	mircea cant take 30k btc losses every month
Apr 11 16:13:42 <Bugpowder>	have reciepts for the options on my inventory for the last hour and a half
Apr 11 16:14:04 <Bugpowder>	then they disappeared
Apr 11 16:14:09 <ThickAsThieves>	?!
Apr 11 16:14:11 <ThickAsThieves>	wait
Apr 11 16:14:18 <ThickAsThieves>	receipts can be revoked?
Apr 11 16:14:32 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought they were signed text info
Apr 11 16:14:41 <Bugpowder>	So be aware, a receipt is not always reliable.
Apr 11 16:14:50 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 11 16:14:53 <Bugpowder>	there could be syncronization issues in times of heavy load
Apr 11 16:15:03 <ThickAsThieves>	but thats not your problem
Apr 11 16:15:14 <ThickAsThieves>	server should not issue receipt
Apr 11 16:15:19 <ThickAsThieves>	until order is confirmed
Apr 11 16:15:29 <ThickAsThieves>	makes no sense
Apr 11 16:15:59 <taub>	$avg
Apr 11 16:16:00 <mpexbot>	taub: 142.71
Apr 11 16:16:02 <taub>	uh oh
Apr 11 16:16:11 <Bowjob_>	Bakewell might pay his dues now
Apr 11 16:16:12 <Bowjob_>	lol
Apr 11 16:16:19 <Bowjob_>	just say "I got hackeD"
Apr 11 16:16:26 <Bowjob_>	heres ur coins
Apr 11 16:16:32 <ThickAsThieves>	this is also conveniently when price was dropping this morning, bot was off, yet bitcoincharts was working fine, then bot comes back at 1000000% higher prices
Apr 11 16:17:02 <ThickAsThieves>	thats a pretty fancy bot...
Apr 11 16:17:04 <taub>	well that is his business
Apr 11 16:17:05 <taub>	but
Apr 11 16:17:10 <taub>	undoing orders is not ok
Apr 11 16:17:40 <Bugpowder>	what can yah do?  I've made plenty of coins off the bot.  Maybe its true.  The bot did go down shortly after I bot 1000 puts.
Apr 11 16:17:53 <pgp>	orders get busted irl all the time
Apr 11 16:17:59 <jcpham>	http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/as-big-investors-emerge-bitcoin-gets-ready-for-its-close-up/
Apr 11 16:18:00 <ThickAsThieves>	your buys are what triggered me to shop though
Apr 11 16:18:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i loaded prices after
Apr 11 16:18:13 <ThickAsThieves>	and when i hit buy i was too late
Apr 11 16:18:22 <Bugpowder>	Whether that happened before or after the actual bot cancellation, I have no way of knowing
Apr 11 16:18:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i still dont see how that matters if you got a receipt
Apr 11 16:18:38 <jcpham>	the winklevii own 1% of bitcoin
Apr 11 16:18:44 <jcpham>	according to ny times
Apr 11 16:19:05 <Bugpowder>	Was the bot going offline a response to the purchase coming across the ticker here?  Or was it just a coincidence?
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Apr 11 16:19:31 <MJR_>	damn winklevii
Apr 11 16:19:38 <pgp>	guys - equity, option and futures exchanges bust trades for all sorts of reasons everyday all day long...
Apr 11 16:19:38 <MJR_>	always showing up late to the party
Apr 11 16:19:49 <ThickAsThieves>	well if I play the role of Occam in a Tinfoil Hat,
Apr 11 16:20:06 <ThickAsThieves>	easy answer is mp shut off bot manually to protect puts
Apr 11 16:20:15 <ThickAsThieves>	adjusted pricing to be to his benefit
Apr 11 16:20:18 <ThickAsThieves>	then resumed
Apr 11 16:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	yes yes, it can happen that a trade's screwy.
Apr 11 16:20:38 <mircea_popescu>	it hasn't been happening since the january upgrade at all, but then again
Apr 11 16:21:38 <mircea_popescu>	Apr 11 12:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	okay, everyone get your trades through if you were contemplating anything
Apr 11 16:21:39 <mircea_popescu>	Apr 11 12:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	this promises to be a bumpy weekend.
Apr 11 16:21:53 <pgp>	we deal with occasional race condition-type issues from time to time - happens
Apr 11 16:22:03 <ThickAsThieves>	but surely your system is gated to only give receipts as proof of confirmed purchase, no?
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Apr 11 16:22:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume thats why they exist
Apr 11 16:22:35 <pgp>	unless, of course, you prefer a single threaded, single server solution for your exchange...
Apr 11 16:22:58 <pgp>	like gox
Apr 11 16:23:21 <ThickAsThieves>	if not, i dont understand what receipts are for
Apr 11 16:23:48 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves ideally.
Apr 11 16:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	it;'s like the papers you get from the courthouse.
Apr 11 16:24:03 <mircea_popescu>	somwetimes they will have your name wrong
Apr 11 16:24:05 <Scrat>	pgp: which should still be enough, considering modern cpus can do billions of calculations per second
Apr 11 16:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes the police batters down your door and you were the wrong guy.
Apr 11 16:24:24 <Bowjob_>	The Black wednesday
Apr 11 16:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	material errors happen. my job of course is to keep it to a minimum.
Apr 11 16:24:26 <Scrat>	even if you add many orders of magnitude of abstraction
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Apr 11 16:24:46 <Bowjob_>	http://www.businessinsider.com/the-winklevoss-twins-bitcoins-2013-4
Apr 11 16:24:51 <pgp>	yes, but no redundancy and failover...
Apr 11 16:25:09 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, i dont disagree that things happen,
Apr 11 16:25:14 <ThickAsThieves>	but in your examples
Apr 11 16:25:22 <pgp>	can't run an exchange that way - you can't have single points of failure...
Apr 11 16:25:23 <ThickAsThieves>	the offender loses too
Apr 11 16:25:29 <Scrat>	pgp: a true multimaster system requires two phased commits
Apr 11 16:25:35 <Bugpowder>	It's a shame that the bot does not have a timestamped receipt to compare against mine.
Apr 11 16:25:51 <Scrat>	master/slave can still be done with single threaded setup
Apr 11 16:25:53 <ThickAsThieves>	wouldnt matter of being the same second causes glitches
Apr 11 16:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well the bot got in first.
Apr 11 16:26:30 <ThickAsThieves>	so receipts are issued before orders are completed?
Apr 11 16:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.34495 = 1.7248 BTC [-]
Apr 11 16:27:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.34498 = 6.8996 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:27:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34499989 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:27:07 <mircea_popescu>	receipt of trade just says trade was received.
Apr 11 16:27:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.345 = 3.45 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:27:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.35 = 10.5 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	this is factual, it was.
Apr 11 16:27:11 <pgp>	scrat: yes in principal
Apr 11 16:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	the STAT results will query a db, which will be in a state.
Apr 11 16:27:31 <Doffx>	I find it somewhat ironic that they store their bitcoin backups at banks
Apr 11 16:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	it is possible (if unlikely) these days for that state to be messy
Apr 11 16:27:34 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder ive said mircea was scum from day 1
Apr 11 16:27:38 <jborkl_>	mp, sorry to do this again, deposit
Apr 11 16:27:38 <pgp>	but not all systems have fully integrated STP
Apr 11 16:27:39 <tiberiusiv>	now you believe it?
Apr 11 16:27:43 <ThickAsThieves>	but mp,
Apr 11 16:27:53 <ThickAsThieves>	why not gate the receipt to happen AFTER
Apr 11 16:28:02 <tiberiusiv>	how many coins did you honestly think that gypsy was going to bleed off to you?
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Apr 11 16:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	mpex is stateless. there
Apr 11 16:28:07 <ThickAsThieves>	its not like we need our recipts 1 second sooner
Apr 11 16:28:13 <mircea_popescu>	's no way to know what happened to the guy's trade when you issue the receipt.
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Apr 11 16:28:23 <mircea_popescu>	receipt just says "we received your order". this isn't really the problem.
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Apr 11 16:28:39 <ThickAsThieves>	so its not a receipt
Apr 11 16:28:41 <mircea_popescu>	the problem is the webserver he was directed to for the stat was inconsistent weith the trade engine master
Apr 11 16:28:43 <ThickAsThieves>	its a purchase order
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Apr 11 16:28:46 <mircea_popescu>	and this inconsistency lasted too long
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Apr 11 16:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	the reason it lasted too long is that the server itself was being isolated from syncing through being ddosed to as much as it could take
Apr 11 16:29:35 <mircea_popescu>	by the load balancing solution
Apr 11 16:29:45 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume he was at least refunded
Apr 11 16:30:01 <Bugpowder>	THe initial purchase was refunded
Apr 11 16:30:09 <Bugpowder>	and an order appeared
Apr 11 16:30:30 <ThickAsThieves>	what does that mean, an order appeared
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Apr 11 16:31:25 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, do you have a log of when the bot vwap lowered from 227.18 yesterday?
Apr 11 16:31:26 <Bugpowder>		O.USD.P122T : B	1`000 	@ 0.07047095BTC (order #8912799)
Apr 11 16:31:29 <Bugpowder>	That appeared
Apr 11 16:31:51 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is a scumbag.
Apr 11 16:32:29 <Bugpowder>	However my original order number was lower
Apr 11 16:32:33 <tiberiusiv>	how many coins did you honestly expert him to bleed off to you bugpowder?
Apr 11 16:32:38 <tiberiusiv>	expect*
Apr 11 16:33:56 <Bugpowder>	You see, following my 122 order, I placed this order, which did not get filled
Apr 11 16:33:56 <Bugpowder>		O.USD.P125T : B	1`000 	@ 0.08050000BTC (order #8901197)
Apr 11 16:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2159 @ 0.00296405 = 6.3994 BTC [-]
Apr 11 16:34:11 <ThickAsThieves>	or did it?
Apr 11 16:34:12 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 11 16:34:19 <Bugpowder>	No bot was down by then
Apr 11 16:34:45 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, so you were affected too?
Apr 11 16:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.3151 = 2.8359 BTC [-]
Apr 11 16:35:11 <ThickAsThieves>	by what
Apr 11 16:35:20 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov you know about my issue already
Apr 11 16:35:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i did try to buy puts at the same time as Bug, but I was too late
Apr 11 16:35:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i have no issue with that
Apr 11 16:35:49 <jurov>	yes. but am tired and the scrollback looks hairy
Apr 11 16:35:57 <ThickAsThieves>	other than it being suspicious
Apr 11 16:36:03 <ThickAsThieves>	that the bot disappeared for so lonbg
Apr 11 16:36:15 <ThickAsThieves>	and came back with outrageously high prices
Apr 11 16:36:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 218 @ 0.0033 = 0.7194 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:36:42 <jurov>	so these trades got rofled back?
Apr 11 16:36:53 <Bugpowder>	Yes looks like it now
Apr 11 16:37:03 <Bugpowder>	I didn't notice this order number discrepancy before
Apr 11 16:37:10 <Bugpowder>	when I discussed it privately
Apr 11 16:37:52 <jurov>	hmm, coinbr did complain about more inconsistencies than necessary, but looked quite benign
Apr 11 16:38:13 <Bugpowder>	After the trade rollback, a NEW order appeared with a # that was higher than an order I placed AFTER my fill at 122
Apr 11 16:38:34 <jurov>	O.o
Apr 11 16:38:53 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is a fraud
Apr 11 16:38:57 <tiberiusiv>	everyone with 2 brain cells knows it
Apr 11 16:39:06 <MJR_>	nice, looks like s.dice is rallying
Apr 11 16:39:34 <ThickAsThieves>	now i have to go back and audit all my fucking excercises
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Apr 11 16:40:12 <jurov>	anyway, will do thorough check later. but it would help me if anyone who did anything in coinbr during that time
Apr 11 16:40:17 <jurov>	checked their history
Apr 11 16:40:47 <mircea_popescu>	can't hurt anything.
Apr 11 16:41:12 <ThickAsThieves>	can't help either most likely
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Apr 11 16:41:31 <ThickAsThieves>	you aren't exactly known for being pliable
Apr 11 16:41:34 <jurov>	it will help me not to have a mess in books eventually
Apr 11 16:41:45 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, what?
Apr 11 16:41:51 <ThickAsThieves>	not you jurov
Apr 11 16:42:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i just mean that we make plenty of reasonable requests and suggestions that end up being painted as absurd of they conflict with mp's original decision
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Apr 11 16:42:50 <ThickAsThieves>	like not issuing receipts until orders are completed
Apr 11 16:42:51 <guruvan>	++ ThickAsThieves ;) not pliable....but consistent.
Apr 11 16:42:55 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Apr 11 16:43:04 <ThickAsThieves>	thats why i know auditing would be pointless
Apr 11 16:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	ha!
Apr 11 16:43:22 <jurov>	not going into that discussion now... see ya later
Apr 11 16:43:41 <guruvan>	seems everyone's trade engines were hosed yesterday..I know I should audit my trades
Apr 11 16:44:41 <mircea_popescu>	i'd really love to come up with a better system
Apr 11 16:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	for one thing the 100msecond lag is getting on my motherfucking nerves.
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Apr 11 16:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	i get that it's way lower than mtgox ever manages, but still. ridoinculous.
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Apr 11 16:45:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i have real trouble understanding why a receipt cant be the last thing that happens in the chain
Apr 11 16:45:54 <mircea_popescu>	cause mpex doesn't keep session.
Apr 11 16:45:54 <bVector>	mircea_popescu: you're closer than I am, how much would it take to get you to kick icbit admin in the nuts?
Apr 11 16:46:04 <mircea_popescu>	a lot lol. im not in that biz
Apr 11 16:46:14 <bVector>	everyone has their price right? ;)
Apr 11 16:47:07 *	guruvan would do it cheap
Apr 11 16:47:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 42 @ 0.2 = 8.4 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:47:28 <guruvan>	I am so glad I closed out my positions there last week
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Apr 11 16:47:56 <jcpham>	i signed up for coinsetter and sent a witty message
Apr 11 16:48:01 <jcpham>	ceo responded
Apr 11 16:48:07 <jcpham>	he says they are legit
Apr 11 16:48:18 <pigeons>	what's coinsetter?
Apr 11 16:48:20 <jcpham>	his name is jaron iirc
Apr 11 16:48:20 <guruvan>	I've had a chat with him in email - everyone sez that
Apr 11 16:48:26 <guruvan>	ya that's it
Apr 11 16:48:34 <pigeons>	oh well if the ceo says he's legit, its gotta be true
Apr 11 16:48:36 <jcpham>	it's th new bitcoinica pigeons
Apr 11 16:48:40 <guruvan>	coinsetter = leveraged trading of some sort
Apr 11 16:48:40 <jcpham>	rite
Apr 11 16:49:01 <jcpham>	if you think things are wild now...just wait
Apr 11 16:49:02 <pigeons>	chinese relic hunters be ready
Apr 11 16:49:03 <guruvan>	he said he's on the forums & recognized my name - but I didn't recognize his
Apr 11 16:49:12 <guruvan>	and he didn't specifiy a nick
Apr 11 16:49:25 <pigeons>	he meant something awful
Apr 11 16:49:33 <jcpham>	hurrr
Apr 11 16:49:51 <guruvan>	their site was broke when I went there at first...tweeted about that, and he responded to the tweet & sent mail
Apr 11 16:49:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000688 = 0.0688 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:50:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000688 = 0.0688 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:50:03 <jcpham>	ic
Apr 11 16:50:05 <mircea_popescu>	that's nice.
Apr 11 16:50:23 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu's twitter is off the charts lulzbot
Apr 11 16:50:27 <jcpham>	*lulzboat
Apr 11 16:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 11 16:50:34 <jcpham>	gonna have to follow him for sure
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Apr 11 16:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3031 BTC [-]
Apr 11 16:51:05 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 11 16:51:10 <MJR_>	love the tweets
Apr 11 16:51:13 <MJR_>	i've had lunch with jaron
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Apr 11 16:51:22 <guruvan>	ya orly
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Apr 11 16:51:27 <MJR_>	yep
Apr 11 16:51:29 <MJR_>	he's in nyc
Apr 11 16:51:35 <guruvan>	what's  he like?
Apr 11 16:51:36 <jcpham>	does he wear baseball caps?
Apr 11 16:51:37 <MJR_>	erik kinda introduced us
Apr 11 16:51:40 <MJR_>	he does not
Apr 11 16:51:44 <MJR_>	wear baseball caps
Apr 11 16:51:47 <MJR_>	from what i saw
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Apr 11 16:51:53 <MJR_>	but i haven't watched him at all times
Apr 11 16:51:58 <MJR_>	anyway, nice guy
Apr 11 16:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.303 BTC [-]
Apr 11 16:52:03 <MJR_>	cool people behind his project
Apr 11 16:52:15 <MJR_>	haven't seen much of his product
Apr 11 16:52:28 <MJR_>	but he is working on it as far as i know
Apr 11 16:52:36 <guruvan>	meet any of the team?
Apr 11 16:52:39 <MJR_>	yeahg
Apr 11 16:52:41 <MJR_>	CTO
Apr 11 16:52:43 <MJR_>	nice guy
Apr 11 16:52:51 <MJR_>	we had lunch a few times
Apr 11 16:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.30199999 = 6.644 BTC [-]
Apr 11 16:53:27 <jcpham>	i wonder if we can get these guys to do shoeonhead.jpg
Apr 11 16:53:30 <guruvan>	I'm curious about his & the cto's backgrounds
Apr 11 16:53:34 <jcpham>	to prove something...
Apr 11 16:54:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 270 @ 0.000689 = 0.186 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:55:24 <guruvan>	he seemed to think I'd be more interested in the site's security, rather than the principal's backgrounds
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Apr 11 16:55:52 <MJR_>	eh
Apr 11 16:55:59 <MJR_>	what's tux's background?
Apr 11 16:56:01 <guruvan>	what's the CTOs name MJR_?
Apr 11 16:56:07 <MJR_>	marshall
Apr 11 16:56:08 <jcpham>	yeah btcst.com was hella secure html5 wonder
Apr 11 16:56:13 <jcpham>	...
Apr 11 16:56:22 <guruvan>	good question.
Apr 11 16:56:24 <dub>	MJR_: table/card games, painting little plastic soldiers
Apr 11 16:56:29 <jcpham>	glbse was pretty secure but slows as balls
Apr 11 16:56:30 <MJR_>	he actually introduced me to a nice lawyer
Apr 11 16:56:34 <MJR_>	who was very helpful
Apr 11 16:56:55 <guruvan>	exactly jcpham
Apr 11 16:57:06 <jcpham>	making a secure site isn't that hard
Apr 11 16:57:12 <MJR_>	they very much have a startup mentality
Apr 11 16:57:16 <MJR_>	which is cool in some ways
Apr 11 16:57:17 <jcpham>	i've seen it and bought into it
Apr 11 16:57:22 <jcpham>	and then poof
Apr 11 16:57:24 <guruvan>	that's good in a lot of ways
Apr 11 16:57:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4730 @ 0.00071589 = 3.3862 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3888 @ 0.00071642 = 2.7854 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:57:31 <MJR_>	well...depends
Apr 11 16:57:43 <MJR_>	i personally, and this is just my opinion, hate the term "burn rate"
Apr 11 16:57:49 <MJR_>	i plan on making money from day 1
Apr 11 16:57:51 <guruvan>	lol
Apr 11 16:57:57 <guruvan>	VC
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Apr 11 16:58:06 <MJR_>	BUT, there are some times when you need to do that
Apr 11 16:58:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.0034 = 0.17 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:58:19 <guruvan>	I've done a buncha dotcom stuff and we always talked about that
Apr 11 16:58:33 <MJR_>	i just think that the silicon valley mindset of "let them explore and figure it out" is not a great strategy for most scenarios
Apr 11 16:58:55 <MJR_>	in some ways, VC's do a disservice by telling people that they are great, when they haven't done anything yet
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Apr 11 16:59:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
Apr 11 16:59:05 <MJR_>	BUT...i'm not saying that applies to coinsetter
Apr 11 16:59:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.12002 = 1.0802 BTC [-]
Apr 11 16:59:08 <guruvan>	no - it's not, but it's great for the "thow a buncha shit on the wall and see what sticks" venture capitalist mentality
Apr 11 16:59:11 <MJR_>	just making a point about startup mentality
Apr 11 16:59:35 <MJR_>	i also don't like that mentality, i like good solid plans that make sense
Apr 11 16:59:42 <guruvan>	no but wee'll see plenty silicon valley startups that it does apply to in the bitcoin biz
Apr 11 16:59:56 <MJR_>	entrepreneurship should be bringing together the pieces to create something more valuable than the sum of its parts
Apr 11 17:00:07 <MJR_>	it is the hot ticket item of the day
Apr 11 17:00:11 <MJR_>	but we will see
Apr 11 17:00:19 <guruvan>	successful startups do have a plan - it's the VCs who often don't
Apr 11 17:00:29 <MJR_>	i personally think that if you aren't in the irc channel, learning, and actually care about bitcoin, it will show
Apr 11 17:00:38 <MJR_>	SUCCESSFUL startups
Apr 11 17:00:40 <MJR_>	how many aren't
Apr 11 17:00:42 <guruvan>	I have to agree.
Apr 11 17:00:43 <MJR_>	but still got funded
Apr 11 17:00:45 <guruvan>	most
Apr 11 17:00:47 <MJR_>	and had a decent "burn rate"
Apr 11 17:00:48 <guruvan>	:D
Apr 11 17:01:02 <MJR_>	like...I work 16 hours a day
Apr 11 17:01:07 <MJR_>	i use my salary to fund my life
Apr 11 17:01:15 <MJR_>	and i expect to reap the rewards from my equity
Apr 11 17:01:18 <MJR_>	fuck a salary IMO
Apr 11 17:01:31 <MJR_>	but that is my mentality, i'm not used to people giving you money to make your dreams come true
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Apr 11 17:01:42 <benkay>	cannot get rich and have a life?
Apr 11 17:01:56 <MJR_>	well...you can, i am not saying that it doesn't work out well in some cases
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Apr 11 17:02:00 <guruvan>	I have to earn money from my business......no two ways about it - no burn rate possible here
Apr 11 17:02:04 <MJR_>	i'm just saying, i'm doing what i love because i love it
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Apr 11 17:02:12 <MJR_>	i do what i have to in order to make money
Apr 11 17:02:17 <MJR_>	soon they will both be the same thing
Apr 11 17:02:21 <MJR_>	but till then, work harder
Apr 11 17:02:24 <MJR_>	work smarter
Apr 11 17:02:47 <guruvan>	lol - I live in a tiny little town ....there's no jobs....gotta make your own.
Apr 11 17:03:03 <guruvan>	so bitcoin is my job
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Apr 11 17:03:26 <mod6>	guruvan: cool!
Apr 11 17:03:35 <bowjob>	;;ticker
Apr 11 17:03:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.95000, Best ask: 124.90000, Bid-ask spread: 5.95000, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 175853.75589845, 24 hour low: 110.20003, 24 hour high: 203.00000, 24 hour vwap: 159.51856
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Apr 11 17:03:44 <guruvan>	hell yea....I haven't done anything else for a year
Apr 11 17:03:50 <tiberiusiv>	highly doubt bitcoin sees over 150 again this year
Apr 11 17:04:09 <guruvan>	(I haven't been all that flush for a lot of it, but I only started with $1500)
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Apr 11 17:06:09 <pizzaman1337>	wait, what? http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/as-big-investors-emerge-bitcoin-gets-ready-for-its-close-up/
Apr 11 17:06:20 <guruvan>	lulz article
Apr 11 17:06:22 <jcpham>	yes
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Apr 11 17:06:27 <jcpham>	the winklevii
Apr 11 17:06:35 <kakobrekla>	howmuch till the gox opens again?
Apr 11 17:06:39 <guruvan>	many factual errors
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Apr 11 17:06:43 <kakobrekla>	8h?
Apr 11 17:06:47 <guruvan>	kakobrekla:  5-6hrs?
Apr 11 17:06:48 <jcpham>	masters of subversion, now out of the crypto-closet
Apr 11 17:07:24 <kakobrekla>	est is now 4pm
Apr 11 17:07:25 <guruvan>	lool.....masters of getting ripped off
Apr 11 17:07:31 <kakobrekla>	it starts at 2am
Apr 11 17:07:33 <guruvan>	5pm
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Apr 11 17:08:00 <guruvan>	oh eSt -
Apr 11 17:08:32 <kakobrekla>	oh no it was utc
Apr 11 17:08:35 <kakobrekla>	wtf
Apr 11 17:08:55 <kakobrekla>	aha so 5h
Apr 11 17:08:56 <kakobrekla>	bah
Apr 11 17:09:07 <guruvan>	heh
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Apr 11 17:10:43 <jborkl_>	well, i sent a small amount to Gox, 9 confirms - no show in my account
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Apr 11 17:11:04 <guruvan>	doesn't seem surprising
Apr 11 17:11:07 <jborkl_>	so, 5-6 hours - I am not thinking is going to work out well for them
Apr 11 17:11:42 <guruvan>	well....opening up the floodgates for pent-up demand is reeeealy hard on big systems like they have
Apr 11 17:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3375 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3399999 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:12:04 <jborkl_>	yes, I dont think 5-6 hours it is going to happen
Apr 11 17:12:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 17:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:15:36 <tiberiusiv>	why would you trade on gox when the alternatives are better
Apr 11 17:15:43 <tiberiusiv>	thats like trading on the mpex
Apr 11 17:15:48 <Bugpowder>	which alts are better?
Apr 11 17:15:54 <Bugpowder>	bitfloor stole 25k
Apr 11 17:15:54 <tiberiusiv>	btce?
Apr 11 17:16:00 <Bugpowder>	btce is in russia
Apr 11 17:16:05 <tiberiusiv>	so?
Apr 11 17:16:09 <dub>	so russia
Apr 11 17:16:16 <tiberiusiv>	btce has 0 limits on anything pretty much
Apr 11 17:16:25 <tiberiusiv>	mpex is in romania and run by a scumbag yet you actively trust it
Apr 11 17:16:36 <ThickAsThieves>	whats the 25k bitfloor story? i have some cash there...
Apr 11 17:16:40 <benkay>	said scumbag maintains a presence in irc
Apr 11 17:16:49 <benkay>	where btce?
Apr 11 17:17:02 <pigeons>	ThickAsThieves: bitfloor got hacked, said sorry, your moneys gone, come trade with us anyway
Apr 11 17:17:15 <tiberiusiv>	ive dealth with btce over a year always fast responses, fast payouts
Apr 11 17:17:35 <pigeons>	"got hacked" in the bitcoin sense, where who knows if its true mybitcoin
Apr 11 17:17:35 <tiberiusiv>	i dont see btce frozen today or yesterday
Apr 11 17:18:01 <pigeons>	btce got hacked and lost money but they ate it
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Apr 11 17:18:39 <pigeons>	the alternatives are only better the rare occasions thye have enough depth
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Apr 11 17:25:42 <guruvan>	Bugpowder: I've been using btc-e - I wish to god they had 2FA, but man....they have some DDOS protection.
Apr 11 17:26:20 <guruvan>	tough if you need easy usd in or out, but you're trading for btc you can do well with trade fees only .2%
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Apr 11 17:29:19 <pgp>	you know, it's like MPEX exchange membership is on sale....
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Apr 11 17:30:02 <guruvan>	should raise the price ;)
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Apr 11 17:32:05 <Bugpowder>	I won't use anywhere without 2FA.  I have too much on gox right now
Apr 11 17:32:22 <Bugpowder>	or GPG
Apr 11 17:32:28 <Bugpowder>	that is also acceptable
Apr 11 17:33:05 <guruvan>	yeah - I feel that...I usually keep my btc-e acct cleaned out.....I don't hold anything there
Apr 11 17:33:32 <jborkl_>	micrea_popescu , deposit flushed
Apr 11 17:33:56 <guruvan>	I'd really prefer gpg everywhere instead of authenticator or yubikeys
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Apr 11 17:34:19 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ on it
Apr 11 17:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	yea.
Apr 11 17:34:30 <jborkl_>	thank you
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Apr 11 17:37:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00333332 = 6.6666 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:37:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00333333 = 3.3333 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 17:39:36 <mircea_popescu>	aaand flushed./
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Apr 11 17:44:12 <dub>	aaand its gone
Apr 11 17:44:46 <taub>	nNotice how btc-e has been running on 50% gox volume the last couple hours without having "success"?
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Apr 11 17:45:10 <Bugpowder>	To make myself feel better.... I present my trades of yesterday
Apr 11 17:45:34 *	TomServo prepares to ragequit
Apr 11 17:45:46 <taub>	lol i know right
Apr 11 17:45:52 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/TfSNGC5.png
Apr 11 17:46:03 <Bugpowder>	yellow is buy
Apr 11 17:46:06 <Bugpowder>	blue is sell
Apr 11 17:46:31 <Bugpowder>	5% of total stack in each
Apr 11 17:46:34 <Bugpowder>	trade
Apr 11 17:46:58 <taub>	must not get jealous
Apr 11 17:47:02 <taub>	nice trades
Apr 11 17:47:04 <TomServo>	nice work
Apr 11 17:47:10 <taub>	how did you feel out the first buy?
Apr 11 17:47:23 <taub>	just the stagnation?
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Apr 11 17:47:41 <taub>	prolly also depth showing orders
Apr 11 17:47:50 <Bugpowder>	goxlag was dropping fast and we had a little bounce of 105
Apr 11 17:48:15 <Bugpowder>	tough part is getting the orders in 10-15 minutes before they need to go off.
Apr 11 17:48:21 <taub>	rofl
Apr 11 17:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 11 17:48:41 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Apr 11 17:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 17:51:20 <Namworld>	bugpowder... how do you trade call/puts and Gox so well?
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Apr 11 17:51:58 <Namworld>	I'm doing well on that too... at least I'm on the green overall. But I'm not that accurate =P
Apr 11 17:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3799999 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:52:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 30 @ 0.3871 = 11.613 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:52:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.38999 = 3.8999 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:52:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.39 = 1.95 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:52:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.39798 = 0.796 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 17:52:27 <Namworld>	I sold VTX at 0.20 ... in the low
Apr 11 17:52:45 <Namworld>	But then sold the BTC for USD at 250 =P
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Apr 11 17:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	50 bux a vtx share
Apr 11 17:54:05 <mircea_popescu>	how can you go wrong.
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Apr 11 17:54:28 <Namworld>	100 000 x 50 = 5 million!
Apr 11 17:54:32 <Namworld>	nice valuation
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Apr 11 17:56:10 <Bugpowder>	Namworld: Genetic superiority
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Apr 11 17:56:22 <Bugpowder>	I was born lucky
Apr 11 17:57:11 <Bugpowder>	either that or I have been burned enough to learn common patterns, and have cashed out enough so that I'm comfortable making big bets without pissing myself
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Apr 11 17:57:42 <Bugpowder>	The sharp move followed by osciallation is classic though
Apr 11 17:57:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3866 @ 0.00071642 = 2.7697 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:57:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10834 @ 0.00071795 = 7.7783 BTC [+]
Apr 11 17:58:25 <Bugpowder>	Also I bougt on gox today at 121, right beofre they shut down... Doh!
Apr 11 17:58:50 <ThickAsThieves>	i did similar, had an overnight bid for 25 @ 125
Apr 11 17:58:55 <Bugpowder>	We may be moving into a new market pattern now though, so the strategies I exploited for the last 3 months may no longer work
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Apr 11 17:59:06 <ThickAsThieves>	luckily i cancelled like 10 other bids i had up
Apr 11 17:59:22 <TomServo>	Bugpowder: how much was the 'bunch of cash' you had on gox before those trades?
Apr 11 17:59:33 <Bugpowder>	20% of my stack
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Apr 11 17:59:52 <Bugpowder>	of combined BTC and cashed out value
Apr 11 18:00:06 <Bugpowder>	Not going to state specific position sizes anymore
Apr 11 18:00:30 <unbalanced>	Wicked trading.
Apr 11 18:00:36 <TomServo>	np, didn't mean to intrude
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Apr 11 18:02:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00184 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:02:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00184 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:02:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 15 @ 0.00185 = 0.0278 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:02:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00070934 = 6.0294 BTC [-]
Apr 11 18:02:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 15 @ 0.001889 = 0.0283 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:02:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 36 @ 0.00189 = 0.068 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39798 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:03:05 <Bugpowder>	it's very tempting to shoot off about specific $ figures, but also stupid to..  Also, whether you are trading $1,000,000 or $100, your emotions are probably more coupled to what % of your net worth is on the line, rather than a specific dollar value
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Apr 11 18:04:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 29 @ 0.00195 = 0.0566 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:05:14 <Bugpowder>	The question now is, what is the right play when gox opens?
Apr 11 18:05:27 <Bugpowder>	would love to hear what people think
Apr 11 18:06:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm having trouble seeing the price drop lower than on outside exchanges
Apr 11 18:06:33 <ThickAsThieves>	like 65 or so now right?
Apr 11 18:06:37 <ThickAsThieves>	only thing counterbalancing that
Apr 11 18:06:47 <ThickAsThieves>	is that the bid book will be so thin
Apr 11 18:06:58 <ThickAsThieves>	if ANYONE is selling hard
Apr 11 18:07:01 <ThickAsThieves>	price will crash
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Apr 11 18:07:09 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Apr 11 18:07:13 <jborkl_>	bugpowder- since only people with $ on Gox can buy - and so many bitcoins to sell -Unless Gox bust trades or limits somehow
Apr 11 18:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	it can go absolutely any way.
Apr 11 18:07:15 <Bugpowder>	the bid book is wiped out
Apr 11 18:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	that's why you don't want idiots like mtgox involved in situations like these.
Apr 11 18:07:36 <Bugpowder>	We could be in for the mother of all spike ripples
Apr 11 18:07:43 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 11 18:07:44 <gribble>	There are currently 94194264 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 5227579.67567 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.8424 seconds
Apr 11 18:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	prices stickyiness can cause anything
Apr 11 18:07:47 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 50
Apr 11 18:07:49 <gribble>	There are currently 33641.267 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 2504465.676 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.6801 seconds
Apr 11 18:08:10 <jborkl_>	Yeah, the only way I see it ending up ok is if Gox has lined up buyers ahead of time
Apr 11 18:08:20 <jborkl_>	otherwise flash crash
Apr 11 18:08:23 <Bugpowder>	Be aware that people will over react to every move
Apr 11 18:08:24 <ThickAsThieves>	due to the fact there is so much uncertainty, i think a likely scenario is a repate of last nights oscilations
Apr 11 18:08:34 <Bugpowder>	combined with lag
Apr 11 18:08:45 <Bugpowder>	will cause major swings
Apr 11 18:09:04 <ThickAsThieves>	if it opens, and lag isnt fixed, price will surely crash
Apr 11 18:09:23 <Bugpowder>	And then explode up
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Apr 11 18:09:25 <Bugpowder>	and then crash
Apr 11 18:09:26 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Apr 11 18:09:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00305 = 0.0153 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:09:28 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Apr 11 18:09:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.0031 = 0.0465 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:09:41 <jborkl_>	Good bet for bitbet- mt gox trading engines strokes out in 10 minutes or less
Apr 11 18:10:24 <Bugpowder>	better to go for a big spread on your bid/ask, and not get filled, then to go for a narrow spread and get stuck in a losing position having scalped 10%
Apr 11 18:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol srlsy
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Apr 11 18:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ well there's capitve cash on mtgox
Apr 11 18:10:54 <mircea_popescu>	there
Apr 11 18:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	's not (as much ?) capitve btc
Apr 11 18:11:21 <Bugpowder>	there is some captive BTC too
Apr 11 18:11:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.00069 = 0.0062 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:11:31 <Bugpowder>	tons of cash off the books right now
Apr 11 18:11:31 <jborkl_>	the ? is how much of that cash has been requested for withdrawal
Apr 11 18:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.0006975 = 6.2426 BTC [-]
Apr 11 18:11:37 <ThickAsThieves>	only btc there, will be from people that fear/dislike/cant deal in fiat on other exchanges
Apr 11 18:11:42 <Bugpowder>	there are tight withdrawl lmits
Apr 11 18:11:46 <Bugpowder>	10k a day
Apr 11 18:11:50 <Bugpowder>	for verified
Apr 11 18:11:54 <jborkl_>	not if you are apostilled
Apr 11 18:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	apostilled lol
Apr 11 18:12:08 <jborkl_>	lol
Apr 11 18:12:08 <Bugpowder>	If you are apostilled you proably have 500k on the exchange
Apr 11 18:12:10 <jborkl_>	spelling
Apr 11 18:12:20 <Bugpowder>	otherwise its too much of a pita
Apr 11 18:12:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's just funny, where they put the apostille, on your cock ?
Apr 11 18:13:26 <taub>	time for powernap  until mtgox opens
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Apr 11 18:14:03 <taub>	think we might actually see a little recovery in the meantime, 99-120
Apr 11 18:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 11 18:15:32 <mircea_popescu>	watch it sit glued in the mp range
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Apr 11 18:15:59 <Bugpowder>	I think greed will defeat fear in the end
Apr 11 18:16:51 <ThickAsThieves>	greed is on both ends though
Apr 11 18:17:06 <ThickAsThieves>	buyers and sellers
Apr 11 18:17:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i think people will need to use outside exchanges as reference
Apr 11 18:18:27 <jborkl_>	but they will not, Gox is full of noobs that will be hitting sell and f5
Apr 11 18:18:35 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe...
Apr 11 18:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	or buy
Apr 11 18:18:39 <jborkl_>	other people will buy
Apr 11 18:18:57 <ThickAsThieves>	but how much money do noobs really have
Apr 11 18:19:00 <jborkl_>	it is going to be fun
Apr 11 18:19:21 <jborkl_>	there were 15000 accounts waiting in the Q
Apr 11 18:19:29 <jborkl_>	so, a bunch
Apr 11 18:19:32 <Bugpowder>	Just for the love of god... don't place a market order.
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Apr 11 18:19:55 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 11 18:20:20 <Bugpowder>	http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/as-big-investors-emerge-bitcoin-gets-ready-for-its-close-up/
Apr 11 18:20:37 <jborkl_>	I have some money on there and know what price I am putting my limit at- I hope it gets filled
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Apr 11 18:21:37 <Bugpowder>	I hope the vwap never goes below 122.
Apr 11 18:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	Winklevii — as they are popularly known — say they own nearly 1 percent of that, or some $11 million.
Apr 11 18:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	everyone claiming 100k btc like it's a trend
Apr 11 18:22:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i have a 100k sdice
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Apr 11 18:22:23 <ThickAsThieves>	fo fuck you twins
Apr 11 18:22:24 <ThickAsThieves>	so
Apr 11 18:22:27 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 11 18:22:47 <dub>	inb4 facebook launches bitcoin payments
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Apr 11 18:23:05 <mircea_popescu>	if facebook does it it will suck
Apr 11 18:23:09 <mircea_popescu>	facecoin!
Apr 11 18:23:18 <ThickAsThieves>	itll be just as cool as facebook gifts
Apr 11 18:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 28 @ 0.39798 = 11.1434 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 18:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	@maxkeiser 5h Could a Patent Lawsuit Take Down the Bitcoin Exchanges Like MtGox???
Apr 11 18:24:37 <mircea_popescu>	yeah totally. we need more huffpo intelligent bitcoin discussion
Apr 11 18:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	hopefully the hos are doing it nude while balancing sandwich plates.
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Apr 11 18:25:00 <Bugpowder>	https://www.facebook.com/appcenter/bitcoin-tx?fb_source=appcenter
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Apr 11 18:29:02 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: lol
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Apr 11 18:30:12 <jborkl_>	mtgox
Apr 11 18:31:17 <mircea_popescu>	emergency ?
Apr 11 18:31:20 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't this scheduled ?
Apr 11 18:31:32 <Bugpowder>	all the btcz is gone
Apr 11 18:31:33 <TomServo>	This is the front page now
Apr 11 18:31:48 <Bugpowder>	maybe now they are really doing the change over
Apr 11 18:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe they don't know wmat emergency means.
Apr 11 18:32:01 <mircea_popescu>	everyone says "scheduled" when they mean emertgency,
Apr 11 18:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox goes the other way around.
Apr 11 18:32:16 <Bugpowder>	yeah they could be saying it like we have been so successful, its an emergency
Apr 11 18:32:22 <KRS1>	hah
Apr 11 18:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	we are an emergency of our own success.
Apr 11 18:33:02 <joecool>	gox crashes, MT eats pizza and sweats
Apr 11 18:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.39798 = 1.9899 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:33:10 <KRS1>	mount cocks
Apr 11 18:33:35 <joecool>	*magic the gathering online exchange
Apr 11 18:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.39799 = 0.796 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:35:31 <joecool>	Apr 11 09:23:40 <MagicalTux>    Ad0: sweating right now
Apr 11 18:35:34 <joecool>	https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/322317865443274752/photo/1
Apr 11 18:36:33 <Scrat>	hah
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Apr 11 18:40:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.731 = 1.462 BTC [-]
Apr 11 18:41:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.730211 BTC [-]
Apr 11 18:41:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73021 BTC [-]
Apr 11 18:41:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7302 = 1.4604 BTC [-]
Apr 11 18:41:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.73019 = 14.6038 BTC [-]
Apr 11 18:41:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.73 = 2.19 BTC [-]
Apr 11 18:41:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.72 = 2.16 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 18:44:16 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173782.0
Apr 11 18:44:19 <mircea_popescu>	btc-e issues ?
Apr 11 18:45:33 <mod6>	i saw that earlier... then "moni3z" says: You will get your LTC don't worry
Apr 11 18:45:37 <mod6>	wat!?
Apr 11 18:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.6 = 6.4 BTC [-]
Apr 11 18:46:03 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno
Apr 11 18:46:10 <joecool>	did that btcex guy just disappear?
Apr 11 18:47:28 <mircea_popescu>	which one is that ?
Apr 11 18:48:02 <joecool>	mircea_popescu: the guy who used to run btcex a couple years ago
Apr 11 18:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	i weirdly have no recollection of this at all. who the f ?
Apr 11 18:48:31 <joecool>	he was funny, put a bounty up to hack mtgox, did a lot of other insane stuff, trolled bitcointalk ~2011
Apr 11 18:48:45 <joecool>	but yeah used to run an exchange that went under around then
Apr 11 18:48:46 <mircea_popescu>	o wait
Apr 11 18:48:49 <joecool>	russian guy i think
Apr 11 18:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	went away like mid 2012 neh ?
Apr 11 18:49:30 <joecool>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6864.0 << here's one of his threads
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Apr 11 18:49:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.16169 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94649.0
Apr 11 18:49:47 <mircea_popescu>	ya guy was a serial exchange entrepreneur.
Apr 11 18:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.39798 = 1.9899 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 18:51:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 75 @ 0.0034 = 0.255 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 18:53:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3985 BTC [-]
Apr 11 18:55:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.3989 = 3.5901 BTC [+]
Apr 11 18:57:19 <Bugpowder>	Jesus Christ.  Denninger is trolling my FB page.
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Apr 11 18:58:07 <mod6>	sometimes referred to as a founding member of the Tea Party movement. << the guy is probably a cockmeat sandwich
Apr 11 18:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	o is he the nut from before ?
Apr 11 18:58:55 <mircea_popescu>	with the bitcoin is not a good currency because can't be made into a responsible dildo ?
Apr 11 18:58:55 <Bugpowder>	http://imgur.com/F35l2Sl
Apr 11 18:59:11 <mod6>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Denninger
Apr 11 18:59:26 <Guest8717>	Tell him that vacuums are actually a multi-billion dollar industry
Apr 11 18:59:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.1617 = 1.617 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 19:00:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.1399 = 1.399 BTC [+]
Apr 11 19:01:11 <mod6>	Bugpowder: what a douchebag
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Apr 11 19:02:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1617 = 0.3234 BTC [+]
Apr 11 19:03:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1399 = 0.4197 BTC [+]
Apr 11 19:03:25 <ThickAsThieves>	so no AM update?
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Apr 11 19:12:21 <guruvan>	this is the only refuge of sanity on irc.......everyone else is freaking out about USD loses......
Apr 11 19:12:45 <mod6>	^^^
Apr 11 19:13:23 <guruvan>	any idea how long its safe to reuse a gox deposit address? I want to send funds there, but can't log in.
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Apr 11 19:13:42 <guruvan>	one in my wallet aren't that recently made
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Apr 11 19:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't.
Apr 11 19:14:38 <Insaneatyou>	Gox is down, I wouldn't be touching them until they're back up
Apr 11 19:14:46 <mod6>	personally i would wait until they can generate you a new one. who knows if they've changed wallets or whatever.
Apr 11 19:14:51 <guruvan>	yeah - that's what Im thinking
Apr 11 19:14:58 <mod6>	yeah, aside from not using gox at all lol
Apr 11 19:15:05 <mircea_popescu>	and use something other than mttox.
Apr 11 19:15:21 <guruvan>	ya - this is a special occasion though - I just want to take advantage of the mayhem
Apr 11 19:15:27 <Namworld>	darn it... I sent 100 BTC to MtGox
Apr 11 19:15:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
Apr 11 19:15:30 <Namworld>	1FEUCcszrBBMMMm1UwNK8mwFQF29mE39bM
Apr 11 19:15:32 <guruvan>	I rarely have anything in there (thus no recent deposit addy)
Apr 11 19:15:36 <Namworld>	Nice repeating pattern
Apr 11 19:15:49 <Namworld>	Feu (fire) Cc, BB, MMMm
Apr 11 19:15:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.701 BTC [-]
Apr 11 19:16:04 <Namworld>	looks funny
Apr 11 19:16:13 <Namworld>	I want it as vanity url...
Apr 11 19:16:23 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld are you sleepy "?
Apr 11 19:16:31 <guruvan>	hah
Apr 11 19:16:34 <Namworld>	Possibly...
Apr 11 19:16:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.0006975 = 2.7551 BTC [-]
Apr 11 19:16:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6887 @ 0.00069712 = 4.8011 BTC [-]
Apr 11 19:16:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2563 @ 0.00069557 = 1.7827 BTC [-]
Apr 11 19:16:56 <Namworld>	Leave me to my delirium. I'm having fun.
Apr 11 19:17:02 <mircea_popescu>	np np
Apr 11 19:17:09 <Bugpowder>	Time to get some sushi and sake to prepare for the mayhem
Apr 11 19:17:16 <Namworld>	lol
Apr 11 19:17:21 <Bugpowder>	if gox delays opening though... I will be PISSED
Apr 11 19:17:28 <Namworld>	Living it big?
Apr 11 19:17:31 <Bugpowder>	open at 3am EDT
Apr 11 19:17:40 <Bugpowder>	Still got enough to live large
Apr 11 19:18:14 <Namworld>	eheh
Apr 11 19:18:15 <Bugpowder>	but I might not buy that art car now.. http://burners.me/2013/04/09/your-own-art-car-wunders-rockbox-on-the-auction-block/
Apr 11 19:18:27 <Bugpowder>	Had some discussions with the owner yesterday
Apr 11 19:18:29 <Namworld>	ok well... I'm going to go eat something before gox reopens...
Apr 11 19:18:41 <Bugpowder>	after the gox ripple trade
Apr 11 19:18:43 <Namworld>	Better have a full stomach and be rested so I can stick around
Apr 11 19:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	how long is it ?
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Apr 11 19:19:07 <mod6>	Bugpowder: holy shit you were going to buy that thing?!??
Apr 11 19:19:12 <Bugpowder>	yup
Apr 11 19:19:19 <Bugpowder>	we got a camp
Apr 11 19:19:30 <Bugpowder>	having someone head up to Ft Bragg to scope it this weekend
Apr 11 19:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	he's a campy fag at heart :D
Apr 11 19:19:35 <guruvan>	for burning man?
Apr 11 19:19:59 <Bugpowder>	of course!
Apr 11 19:20:02 <mod6>	jeeze
Apr 11 19:20:06 <mod6>	lol
Apr 11 19:20:14 <mod6>	WOW
Apr 11 19:20:18 <Bugpowder>	Not feeling bitrich anymore though
Apr 11 19:20:32 <mod6>	dude.
Apr 11 19:20:43 <Bugpowder>	Also I'm sober
Apr 11 19:20:54 <Bugpowder>	discussions were after a Stone IPA pint.
Apr 11 19:21:18 <mod6>	people arn't ready for bitcoins yet
Apr 11 19:22:13 <guruvan>	hahah - those stones are strong
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Apr 11 19:27:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5937 @ 0.00069557 = 4.1296 BTC [-]
Apr 11 19:27:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6963 @ 0.00069538 = 4.8419 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 19:29:28 <ThickAsThieves>	stone ipa is pretty good stuff
Apr 11 19:29:37 <mod6>	haha, the thing lights up!
Apr 11 19:29:45 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 11 19:29:50 <ThickAsThieves>	oh the car
Apr 11 19:30:02 <mod6>	oh yeah sorry someone is talking in my ear
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Apr 11 19:39:51 <error4733>	;;eightball will mtGox crash at 2am
Apr 11 19:39:52 <gribble>	You know the answer better than I.
Apr 11 19:40:22 <pipeline>	(yes)
Apr 11 19:40:23 <error4733>	;;eightball yes but please, answer the question
Apr 11 19:40:23 <gribble>	What are you asking me for?
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Apr 11 19:40:51 <error4733>	;;eightball should i sold all my btc
Apr 11 19:40:51 <gribble>	The outlook is good.
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Apr 11 19:53:57 <ThickAsThieves>	anothe rtrade hapnd on Gox
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Apr 11 19:54:02 <ThickAsThieves>	Last price:$124.90000
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Apr 11 19:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	heh
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Apr 11 20:03:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.701 = 7.01 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 20:14:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 20:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
Apr 11 20:24:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 538 @ 0.00069538 = 0.3741 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 20:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 20:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [-]
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Apr 11 20:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3659995 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 20:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	$avg
Apr 11 20:35:13 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 125.94
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Apr 11 20:40:11 <mod6>	well, it'll be interesting to see where this thing goes when mount cawks reopens
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Apr 11 20:41:03 <mircea_popescu>	all i want to see is mtgox volume < 10k for the day.
Apr 11 20:41:28 <mod6>	that'd be something
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Apr 11 20:48:14 <ThickAsThieves>	there'll be plenty volume when they open
Apr 11 20:48:33 <Bugpowder>	I am going to do 10k today
Apr 11 20:48:39 <TradeFortress>	assuming no 502 errors
Apr 11 20:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. cahtch you all later.
Apr 11 20:48:50 <mod6>	Bugpowder: you had some nice trades yesterday
Apr 11 20:48:55 <mod6>	c-a
Apr 11 20:48:58 <mod6>	*ya
Apr 11 20:49:03 <Bugpowder>	hope tonight is a repeat
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Apr 11 20:49:55 <mod6>	there will probably be big volitility
Apr 11 20:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.397 BTC [-]
Apr 11 20:50:34 <Bugpowder>	1000BTC in lost profits :(
Apr 11 20:50:46 <Bugpowder>	:,(
Apr 11 20:50:47 <mod6>	eeee!
Apr 11 20:50:50 <mod6>	damn
Apr 11 20:50:56 <Bugpowder>	theoretically
Apr 11 20:51:04 <Bugpowder>	we are still above 122 on the vwap
Apr 11 20:51:13 <Bugpowder>	And I think we are going to bounce
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Apr 11 20:51:55 <Bugpowder>	My buddy is a serious poker player
Apr 11 20:52:03 <Bugpowder>	very active on 2+2 forums
Apr 11 20:52:20 <Bugpowder>	tonight EVERYONE on the forum is begging him to sell them $10k in coins
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Apr 11 20:52:29 <mod6>	wow
Apr 11 20:52:32 <Bugpowder>	"I will wire you cash NOW" etc
Apr 11 20:52:56 <Bugpowder>	Lot of people on the sidelines have been waiting for a time to buy
Apr 11 20:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36599949 BTC [-]
Apr 11 20:53:20 <Bugpowder>	ha, I guess its already bouncing in prep
Apr 11 20:53:21 <mod6>	that seems like it was smart. everyone was like "STFU and take my money!!!11" to me
Apr 11 20:53:25 <mod6>	and i really wouldn't even take it since i knew it would tank
Apr 11 20:53:47 <mod6>	i did give away a bunch of .1's and stuff tho
Apr 11 20:53:49 <Bugpowder>	Lots of people texting me today... Can I give you cash and u buy coins??
Apr 11 20:54:10 <Bugpowder>	So I think its going to be explosive bounce, and dip and bounce.
Apr 11 20:54:15 <Bugpowder>	settle at 130.
Apr 11 20:54:22 <Bugpowder>	100-130
Apr 11 20:56:07 <ThickAsThieves>	where you gonna start bidding
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Apr 11 20:57:08 <Bugpowder>	XRPTrader: what does ripple go for now that BTC crashed?
Apr 11 20:57:12 <Bugpowder>	still 150k?
Apr 11 20:57:34 <pigeons>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/rippleXRP.html
Apr 11 20:57:36 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: I'm not sure... I think it will go to 100, but I want 2x gain on my trades.
Apr 11 20:57:37 <guruvan>	Bugpowder:  that's how I've been reading this all day - I think there's way too much on the sidelines to have much time for bottom feeding
Apr 11 20:58:03 <guruvan>	40K Bugpowder
Apr 11 20:58:25 <Bugpowder>	Anyone want to loan me some ripple?
Apr 11 20:59:16 <Bugpowder>	guruvan: Yup... Will be interesting if the oscillation motif works plays out in this circumstance
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Apr 11 20:59:38 <Bugpowder>	I expect a bunch of market buy and sells will widen the spread
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Apr 11 20:59:53 <Bugpowder>	you want to get pinged on both ends of that spread
Apr 11 20:59:58 <guruvan>	I can hardly see how that won't play - there's shittons of scared people wanting out out out, and tons of new money wanting in
Apr 11 21:00:04 <tiberiusiv>	wtf is ripple?
Apr 11 21:00:08 <Bugpowder>	a joke
Apr 11 21:00:18 <Bugpowder>	not a joke
Apr 11 21:00:21 <Bugpowder>	a DOA project
Apr 11 21:00:40 <ThickAsThieves>	its stupid and cool
Apr 11 21:00:52 <tiberiusiv>	trading deadbeats debts as money?
Apr 11 21:00:55 <tiberiusiv>	no thanks
Apr 11 21:01:07 <mod6>	i think if it opens @ 120 everyone will sell, then try to get back in sub-100 when it's oversold.
Apr 11 21:01:09 <tiberiusiv>	we already trade government debts as money now
Apr 11 21:01:13 <thestring>	;;seen smickles
Apr 11 21:01:14 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 9 hours, 18 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 11 21:01:15 <mod6>	*shrug* hard to say i guess
Apr 11 21:01:16 <tiberiusiv>	mod6: it wont open @ 120.
Apr 11 21:01:23 <tiberiusiv>	it will open where the other markets are at
Apr 11 21:01:26 <tiberiusiv>	70-90
Apr 11 21:01:32 <ThickAsThieves>	100
Apr 11 21:01:47 <tiberiusiv>	the price decline has already occured
Apr 11 21:01:51 <tiberiusiv>	what cant people comprehend?
Apr 11 21:02:02 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: bids are still on the book
Apr 11 21:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00069119 = 6.1516 BTC [-]
Apr 11 21:02:05 <Bugpowder>	above 100
Apr 11 21:02:08 <tiberiusiv>	theres 10 other exchanges that did huge volume today and the price decline is already fully priced
Apr 11 21:02:15 <Bugpowder>	it will oven at the bottom bid on the book
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Apr 11 21:02:25 <tiberiusiv>	most of them will be cancelled
Apr 11 21:02:28 <mod6>	guruvan: yeah, it seems like people who were in got hosed and they'd probably wanna head for the hills as fast as they can.
Apr 11 21:02:33 <Bugpowder>	$119
Apr 11 21:02:41 <Bugpowder>	bitcoinity has the order book
Apr 11 21:02:51 <Bugpowder>	half the bids got cancelled
Apr 11 21:03:07 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox will open where the other exchanges arre
Apr 11 21:03:14 <tiberiusiv>	70-90
Apr 11 21:03:43 <guruvan>	gotta clear the book
Apr 11 21:05:11 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: what is so hard to understand?  the open will be the first trade, which will be 119. I bet you 10BTC first trade is between 110-121
Apr 11 21:05:47 <tiberiusiv>	yea thats nice
Apr 11 21:05:48 <tiberiusiv>	who cares?
Apr 11 21:05:55 <guruvan>	it may drop to the other rates right after that, but then it's gonna pop, sell off and pop again
Apr 11 21:06:15 <tiberiusiv>	means nothing where mtgox opens or what it does to be honest
Apr 11 21:06:36 <pigeons>	well it means that is what you will pay on mtgox
Apr 11 21:06:52 <guruvan>	hehe
Apr 11 21:07:08 <pigeons>	which in unfortunate reality means that is likely close to what you will pay elsewhere give or take
Apr 11 21:07:12 <guruvan>	and it means that the people paying on other places will check the price there
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Apr 11 21:08:03 <guruvan>	after this first couple swings, I think we';ll see volume shift to the other exchanges
Apr 11 21:08:26 <tiberiusiv>	people will be cashing out of mtgox
Apr 11 21:08:30 <tiberiusiv>	thats what will happen
Apr 11 21:08:35 <tiberiusiv>	and it doesnt matter if they cashout in USD or in BTC
Apr 11 21:08:39 <tiberiusiv>	BTC is even easier to cashout with
Apr 11 21:09:08 <pigeons>	gox has sucked since it started and people still use it, that won't change soon
Apr 11 21:09:27 <guruvan>	nah - paypal sucks and people still use it
Apr 11 21:09:32 <pigeons>	yep
Apr 11 21:09:38 <guruvan>	windows sucks too
Apr 11 21:09:59 <Bugpowder>	MPEX rolls your trades back, but I still use it :-P
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Apr 11 21:11:28 <Bugpowder>	lol mpoebot min sale price is .29 for calls.  MP doesn't want any action on the bot at all while sleeping.
Apr 11 21:11:31 <guruvan>	heh. And other things, too - but I still use it. and paypal
Apr 11 21:11:34 <guruvan>	but not windows
Apr 11 21:11:42 <Bugpowder>	fuck windows
Apr 11 21:11:42 <tiberiusiv>	mp is a fucking scumbag
Apr 11 21:11:44 <tiberiusiv>	what do you expect
Apr 11 21:11:53 <Bugpowder>	he know finance
Apr 11 21:11:56 <tiberiusiv>	most of his volume is fake
Apr 11 21:11:58 <Bugpowder>	what do you expect
Apr 11 21:12:00 <tiberiusiv>	no he doesnt.
Apr 11 21:12:07 <tiberiusiv>	if he knew anything he wouldnt lose 30k btc in a month.
Apr 11 21:12:21 <guruvan>	ya he do....I wouldn't want that bot trading in this market.
Apr 11 21:12:21 <Bugpowder>	sigh
Apr 11 21:12:22 <tiberiusiv>	hundreds of multiples of any profit he generates
Apr 11 21:12:34 <tiberiusiv>	he knows finance because he can write incorrect articles?
Apr 11 21:12:47 <Bugpowder>	even when I agree with you tiberiusiv, you force me to disagree with you.
Apr 11 21:12:51 <tiberiusiv>	mp lost in 30days more money then voorhees made with sdice since inception.
Apr 11 21:13:00 <Bugpowder>	i can't have this conversation
Apr 11 21:13:05 <Bugpowder>	your facts are wrong
Apr 11 21:13:08 <tiberiusiv>	of course you cant.
Apr 11 21:13:09 <Bugpowder>	he lost 15k
Apr 11 21:13:12 <tiberiusiv>	go back to having your trades rolled back
Apr 11 21:13:18 <tiberiusiv>	on a scam exchange.
Apr 11 21:13:34 <guruvan>	I always wonder who you all are talking to .....then I realize.....
Apr 11 21:13:37 <tiberiusiv>	you think the gypsy will bleed again? he doesnt even have enough btc to cover more losing months like that
Apr 11 21:13:45 <error4733>	to much coffee tiveriusiv ?
Apr 11 21:13:53 <Bugpowder>	evoorhees made minimum 65000
Apr 11 21:13:59 <tiberiusiv>	no he didnt.
Apr 11 21:14:03 <error4733>	?
Apr 11 21:14:06 <tiberiusiv>	go count dividend payouts
Apr 11 21:14:13 <Bugpowder>	those flow back
Apr 11 21:14:19 <Bugpowder>	I'm taking IPO sales
Apr 11 21:14:23 <tiberiusiv>	youll see that mircea lost more in 30days then voorhees made
Apr 11 21:14:24 <Bugpowder>	not dividends
Apr 11 21:14:31 <error4733>	Profit Total	67,842.21
Apr 11 21:14:35 <tiberiusiv>	im talking about generated income.
Apr 11 21:14:40 <Bugpowder>	90% of divided goes back to owner
Apr 11 21:14:49 <tiberiusiv>	yea i know
Apr 11 21:14:51 <Bugpowder>	which is Evoorhees and mystery invesotr
Apr 11 21:14:56 <tiberiusiv>	count the 90% since inception
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Apr 11 21:15:14 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 67000*.9
Apr 11 21:15:15 <gribble>	60300
Apr 11 21:15:23 <tiberiusiv>	yea
Apr 11 21:15:26 <Bugpowder>	PLUS 65000 in IPO
Apr 11 21:15:34 <tiberiusiv>	dude where do you get that number from?
Apr 11 21:15:45 <Bugpowder>	.0034*10000000
Apr 11 21:15:49 <tiberiusiv>	http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE
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Apr 11 21:15:54 <tiberiusiv>	the dividends are listed here
Apr 11 21:16:03 <tiberiusiv>	ADD them all up
Apr 11 21:16:10 <tiberiusiv>	and 0.90% is not 60k bitcoins lol
Apr 11 21:16:18 <Bugpowder>	you don't undersatnd that number
Apr 11 21:16:26 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees was in here a few days ago and he said he doesnt have anywhere near 20mil.
Apr 11 21:16:30 <Bugpowder>	he is lying
Apr 11 21:16:42 <tiberiusiv>	explain the number to me again
Apr 11 21:16:45 <Bugpowder>	ok
Apr 11 21:16:51 <tiberiusiv>	add up all the DIVIDENDS
Apr 11 21:16:56 <tiberiusiv>	and 0.90 is voorhees
Apr 11 21:17:03 <Bugpowder>	the first few months, dividends were only calculated on the MPEX distro for 10% of shares
Apr 11 21:17:13 <Bugpowder>	you need to multiple that number by 9 to get his cut
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Apr 11 21:17:31 <tiberiusiv>	alright even assuming you are correct
Apr 11 21:17:49 <Bugpowder>	I AM correct
Apr 11 21:17:50 <tiberiusiv>	mircea loses what it took voorhees over 1 year to make on the biggest gambling site on bitcoin
Apr 11 21:17:54 <Bugpowder>	no
Apr 11 21:17:56 <tiberiusiv>	in *30* days
Apr 11 21:18:00 <Bugpowder>	mircea loses 15k
Apr 11 21:18:06 <tiberiusiv>	+ bondholders
Apr 11 21:18:13 <tiberiusiv>	total losses were close to 30k btc.
Apr 11 21:18:16 <Bugpowder>	bondholders lost 4
Apr 11 21:18:19 <Bugpowder>	nah
Apr 11 21:18:23 <tiberiusiv>	and then you wonder why he rollsback your trade.
Apr 11 21:18:26 <Bugpowder>	that was losses assuming a 10% gain that month
Apr 11 21:18:35 <tiberiusiv>	what are yout alking about?
Apr 11 21:18:37 <Bugpowder>	princple losses were 19k
Apr 11 21:18:38 <tiberiusiv>	he posted the losses
Apr 11 21:18:41 <Bugpowder>	yah
Apr 11 21:18:45 <tiberiusiv>	they were HUGE
Apr 11 21:18:51 <Bugpowder>	but losses of the principal were 19k
Apr 11 21:18:53 <tiberiusiv>	becuase mircea doesnt understand risk management.
Apr 11 21:19:09 <tiberiusiv>	he may know bullshit theories he read from other websites but he has *0* experience
Apr 11 21:19:36 <TradeFortress>	hmm>?
Apr 11 21:19:37 <tiberiusiv>	so of course he will keep is bot off whil he isnt around this time.
Apr 11 21:19:37 <Bugpowder>	anyway, do the S.DICE calculation based on satoshi per share.
Apr 11 21:19:43 <TradeFortress>	MP rollbacked a trade?
Apr 11 21:19:48 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 11 21:19:55 <tiberiusiv>	to protect himself from losses again
Apr 11 21:20:00 <TradeFortress>	which trade?
Apr 11 21:20:06 <Bugpowder>	Mine
Apr 11 21:20:11 <Bugpowder>	1000 P122Ts.
Apr 11 21:20:14 <Bugpowder>	at 0.07
Apr 11 21:20:37 <Bugpowder>	Said my order hit milliseconds after his bot cancelled the placement
Apr 11 21:20:42 <Bugpowder>	but there was a sync issue
Apr 11 21:20:50 <TradeFortress>	._.
Apr 11 21:20:52 <Bugpowder>	and my STAT was wrong for an hour and a half
Apr 11 21:20:59 <Bugpowder>	I have all the receipts
Apr 11 21:21:06 <Bugpowder>	They are apparently wrong
Apr 11 21:21:13 <Bugpowder>	blah
Apr 11 21:21:28 <TradeFortress>	how can there even be a sync / race issue?
Apr 11 21:21:30 <Bugpowder>	Also the bot was still quoting after I hit the order
Apr 11 21:21:40 <Bugpowder>	that's a question only he can answer
Apr 11 21:21:51 <tiberiusiv>	listen the gypsy is not going to sit around bleeding money to you bugpowder.
Apr 11 21:21:55 <tiberiusiv>	he learned his lesson last month
Apr 11 21:22:08 <tiberiusiv>	this time hes very cautious
Apr 11 21:22:26 <TradeFortress>	but he rollbacked a trade that was already made
Apr 11 21:22:41 <Bugpowder>	no, I was milliseconds too slow
Apr 11 21:22:47 <tiberiusiv>	lol.
Apr 11 21:22:50 <Bugpowder>	computer got confused
Apr 11 21:22:55 <tiberiusiv>	"milliseconds"
Apr 11 21:23:09 <MJR_>	been a while since tiberiusiv been trollin
Apr 11 21:23:12 <TradeFortress>	from what you're saying  it looks a lot like a rollback
Apr 11 21:23:37 <Bugpowder>	[14:09] <mircea_popescu> your buy and the bot's cancelling hit in the same second. the bot was a few miliseconds earlier. the trade engine correctly identified the trade as going to book. the server you were talking to however did not. [14:09] <mircea_popescu> it's ungodly that it has needed almost two hours to come to sense, there's been a host of syncing issues under today;s load.
Apr 11 21:23:38 <tiberiusiv>	it is a rollback, call a spade a spade
Apr 11 21:23:42 <Bugpowder>	Bugpowder_> Well I have a receipt that says my trade was executed.  I have receipts that say the holdings are there for over an hour. I refreshed the MPEX page to pull the price of the 125s after placing the bid, and the listings were still up.  All available evidence to me is that my trade went thru. Can you provide some evidence that your explanation is true? [14:38] <mircea_popescu> well, just as much as you have a recei
Apr 11 21:23:50 <Bugpowder>	[14:38] <mircea_popescu> they all come from the same source. you were asking me what happened, i told you. [14:43] <Bugpowder_> So is your position that the trade will be honored, or is your position that the MPEX STAT function and signed trade receipts are unreliable? [14:44] <mircea_popescu> my position is that STATs are mostly reliable, but in (very rare) cases they contain material errors which get rectified asap. [14:4
Apr 11 21:24:04 <Bugpowder>	delays since about january, this'd be the first tiem [14:46] <mircea_popescu> i can certainly see your wtf here. sorry about that.
Apr 11 21:24:24 <tiberiusiv>	gypsy didnt want to underwrite the risk
Apr 11 21:24:27 <tiberiusiv>	thats what happend.
Apr 11 21:24:28 <TradeFortress>	in other words, MPEX lag over 2 hours
Apr 11 21:24:29 <TradeFortress>	LOL
Apr 11 21:24:30 <Bugpowder>	blah
Apr 11 21:24:37 <Bugpowder>	mpex SYNC lag
Apr 11 21:24:40 <tiberiusiv>	goes on a rant with some technical jargon
Apr 11 21:24:41 <Bugpowder>	its bullshit
Apr 11 21:25:19 <Bugpowder>	My order was cancelled and then reappeared with a high order number 2 hours later, and the coins were refunded.
Apr 11 21:25:30 <Bugpowder>	blah
Apr 11 21:25:36 <Bugpowder>	anyway, that's the story
Apr 11 21:25:44 <Bugpowder>	It's plausible
Apr 11 21:25:50 <Bugpowder>	but pretty tenuous
Apr 11 21:26:03 <Bugpowder>	whatcha gonna do?
Apr 11 21:26:10 <tiberiusiv>	stop using the service?
Apr 11 21:26:21 <Bugpowder>	there is no alternative
Apr 11 21:26:29 <error4733>	pop corn, mtgox opening is in 30min
Apr 11 21:26:39 <Bugpowder>	error4733: plausibly :)
Apr 11 21:26:45 <tiberiusiv>	so youll wait to lose money then bugpowder?
Apr 11 21:27:20 <TradeFortress>	bitfinex: 800% apr for $
Apr 11 21:27:22 <Bugpowder>	I don't understand the question
Apr 11 21:27:24 <MJR_>	this should be fun
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Apr 11 21:27:49 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder since you missed out on profits
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Apr 11 21:28:02 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: potential profits
Apr 11 21:28:02 <thestringer>	;;ticker
Apr 11 21:28:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.80000, Best ask: 128.00000, Bid-ask spread: 9.20000, Last trade: 118.80000, 24 hour volume: 102617.09138117, 24 hour low: 110.20003, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 155.98697
Apr 11 21:28:04 <tiberiusiv>	that means you also missed out on buffer against potential losses
Apr 11 21:28:05 <thestringer>	;;gribble
Apr 11 21:28:05 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Apr 11 21:28:13 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 11 21:28:14 <gribble>	123.71
Apr 11 21:28:29 <Bugpowder>	those puts are still a zero
Apr 11 21:28:35 <Bugpowder>	at exercise
Apr 11 21:28:50 <thestringer>	dude wtf is going on
Apr 11 21:28:54 <thestringer>	TYhe end of bitcoin!!!!!!
Apr 11 21:29:13 <TradeFortress>	sdice is finallyrebounding, woot
Apr 11 21:29:41 <tiberiusiv>	not really
Apr 11 21:29:52 <tiberiusiv>	your *real* value is lower
Apr 11 21:29:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.1399 = 0.9793 BTC [+]
Apr 11 21:30:01 <tiberiusiv>	as BTC buys less goods today
Apr 11 21:30:02 <TradeFortress>	but in btc terms :P
Apr 11 21:30:28 <Bugpowder>	Anyway, the way I see it is MP is the only game in town when it comes to leverage with enough capital to back it. But there will be times when stuff happens to go his way that is unverifiable, and you gotta suck it up or leave.
Apr 11 21:30:35 <tiberiusiv>	btc or usd terms dont mean anything
Apr 11 21:30:39 <tiberiusiv>	what matters is purchasing power
Apr 11 21:30:46 <tiberiusiv>	and sdice had a nominal rebound today
Apr 11 21:31:16 <Bugpowder>	I'm gonna bitch a bit about it, I think people should KNOW the situation and his explanation, and then I'll leave it be and keep trading
Apr 11 21:31:34 <tiberiusiv>	great plan.
Apr 11 21:31:36 <Bugpowder>	It's possible that there was a race condition and I got beat.
Apr 11 21:31:40 <error4733>	;;eightball STAT was a millisecond late ?
Apr 11 21:31:41 <gribble>	What are you asking me for?
Apr 11 21:31:41 <tiberiusiv>	play on a rigged exchange against its owner
Apr 11 21:31:43 <Bugpowder>	I don't think that's what happened
Apr 11 21:31:56 <error4733>	;;eightball STAT was a millisecond late ?
Apr 11 21:31:57 <gribble>	Maybe...
Apr 11 21:31:58 <thestringer>	tiberiusiv is a banker
Apr 11 21:32:06 <TradeFortress>	You can't really know for sure
Apr 11 21:32:09 <thestringer>	;;eightball Will I get laid tomorrow?
Apr 11 21:32:10 <gribble>	The answer is a resounding no.
Apr 11 21:32:10 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv plays a banker on IRC
Apr 11 21:32:13 <thestringer>	XD
Apr 11 21:32:17 <TradeFortress>	LOL
Apr 11 21:32:23 <tiberiusiv>	why would you go heads up against someone that OWNS the market you are on?
Apr 11 21:32:27 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 11 21:32:31 <tiberiusiv>	awesome odds
Apr 11 21:32:37 <thestringer>	;;eightball is mircea_popescu manipulating the market?
Apr 11 21:32:37 <gribble>	It is possible.
Apr 11 21:32:40 <tiberiusiv>	its like playing roulette with a tilted wheel
Apr 11 21:32:40 <thestringer>	XD
Apr 11 21:32:45 <MJR_>	lol
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Apr 11 21:32:51 <Bugpowder>	TradeFortress: exactly, you don't know for sure.
Apr 11 21:33:08 <thestringer>	;;eightball is tiberiusiv trollin'?
Apr 11 21:33:08 <gribble>	Come again?
Apr 11 21:33:09 <Bugpowder>	THere is an information assymetrry
Apr 11 21:33:11 <TradeFortress>	So suck it up and leave if happens again would be my thoughts.
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Apr 11 21:33:30 <Bugpowder>	what is the alternative
Apr 11 21:33:50 <Bugpowder>	maybe there will be an mpex alternative in the future, but there isn't one today
Apr 11 21:33:50 <tiberiusiv>	save your chips for something else that will pop up
Apr 11 21:34:00 <TradeFortress>	yep
Apr 11 21:34:01 <tiberiusiv>	yea and youll be too broke to play on it
Apr 11 21:34:05 <tiberiusiv>	bleeding off to mircea
Apr 11 21:34:20 <tiberiusiv>	the name of the game is defense not offense
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Apr 11 21:34:30 <tiberiusiv>	most donkeys in here lose because they constantly have to be doing something
Apr 11 21:34:35 <thestringer>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 11 21:34:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.90251552 / 218.88143499 / 226.22012381 (14550 shares, 2,478.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 11 21:34:48 <MJR_>	you went to sell, and the offer disappeared(was canceled) before you got executed (according to mp), he issued a receipt, because though it was cancelled, i guess it still called the receipt function or something?
Apr 11 21:35:18 <Bugpowder_>	and stats for the next 90 minutes showed it in my holdings
Apr 11 21:35:35 <tiberiusiv>	looks like tiberius was correct again
Apr 11 21:35:42 <tiberiusiv>	calling out mircea's scam over 2 weeks ago
Apr 11 21:35:57 <tiberiusiv>	and warning users on here not to play on the options exchange as the gypsy would not tolerate a second month of losses.
Apr 11 21:35:58 <error4733>	1000 P122Ts.
Apr 11 21:35:58 <error4733>	[03:20] <Bugpowder> at 0.07
Apr 11 21:36:16 <error4733>	can you explain ? how much profit do you "miss"
Apr 11 21:36:26 <Bugpowder_>	we won't know till later today
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Apr 11 21:36:44 <thestringer>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 11 21:36:44 <Bugpowder_>	but the bot is now selling those for 2.27
Apr 11 21:36:45 <gribble>	123.64
Apr 11 21:36:52 <tiberiusiv>	rofl bugpowder
Apr 11 21:36:55 <error4733>	ok but explain me your bet :) i dont get it
Apr 11 21:37:02 <tiberiusiv>	!return 0.07 2.27
Apr 11 21:37:10 <Bugpowder_>	My bet was that BTC would crash to 60
Apr 11 21:37:10 <tiberiusiv>	;;return 0.07 2.27
Apr 11 21:37:11 <gribble>	Error: "return" is not a valid command.
Apr 11 21:37:17 <TradeFortress>	do you know what  calls and puts are error4733?
Apr 11 21:37:17 <Bugpowder_>	and I would make 1000BTC
Apr 11 21:37:20 <tiberiusiv>	and your bet was correct
Apr 11 21:37:31 <Bugpowder_>	I was just a few milliseconds too slow
Apr 11 21:37:33 <tiberiusiv>	it did crash to 60 and under on 3 exchanges.
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Apr 11 21:37:50 <tiberiusiv>	dude did you seriously think mircea would take a 1000BTC hit
Apr 11 21:37:53 <error4733>	yes, but no with the MP system
Apr 11 21:37:54 <tiberiusiv>	again?
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Apr 11 21:38:10 <tiberiusiv>	how gullible can you be
Apr 11 21:38:12 <Bugpowder_>	I figured the bondholders would take it
Apr 11 21:38:20 <tiberiusiv>	hes the major bondholder.
Apr 11 21:38:29 <Bugpowder_>	only when exposure gets too high
Apr 11 21:38:36 <tiberiusiv>	he doesnt have enough BTC to take loss after loss insuring against btc volatility
Apr 11 21:38:43 <Bugpowder_>	he probably has 15k in BTC from bondholders lined up this month
Apr 11 21:38:53 <TradeFortress>	he probably will have less next month
Apr 11 21:38:55 <tiberiusiv>	this "finance" genius sells insures against the most volatile asset class on the planet.
Apr 11 21:38:59 <error4733>	70btc ? i'm right ?
Apr 11 21:38:59 <Bugpowder_>	Yah, if BTCUSD went to 10
Apr 11 21:39:07 <Bugpowder_>	I would make 11,000 BTC
Apr 11 21:39:18 <tiberiusiv>	hed have to default
Apr 11 21:39:23 <Bugpowder_>	that's the whole point of the puts
Apr 11 21:39:28 <Bugpowder_>	long tail hedge
Apr 11 21:40:00 <Bugpowder_>	anyway
Apr 11 21:40:02 <tiberiusiv>	all nice and dandy in theory
Apr 11 21:40:11 <Bugpowder_>	I gotta go get ready for gox opening
Apr 11 21:40:13 <tiberiusiv>	but in practice your dealing with a thieving gypsy
Apr 11 21:40:20 <thestringer>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 11 21:40:21 <gribble>	123.59
Apr 11 21:40:21 <tiberiusiv>	and you learned that today
Apr 11 21:40:35 <thestringer>	gox opens in 20 minutes
Apr 11 21:40:41 <thestringer>	time to get popcorn and keep fingers crossed
Apr 11 21:40:50 <tiberiusiv>	dude the price already hit 60 and under
Apr 11 21:40:54 <tiberiusiv>	on over 4 exchanges.
Apr 11 21:40:58 <tiberiusiv>	mircea owes you 1k btc
Apr 11 21:41:20 <Bugpowder_>	I plan to take it from him by opex
Apr 11 21:41:31 <TradeFortress>	OPen EXchange?
Apr 11 21:41:40 <Bugpowder_>	options expiration
Apr 11 21:41:52 <TradeFortress>	oh :P
Apr 11 21:41:53 <Bugpowder_>	although that is impossible
Apr 11 21:42:01 <Bugpowder_>	with the current bot pricing
Apr 11 21:42:19 <Bugpowder_>	later dudes.
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Apr 11 21:42:43 <dub>	you're leaving now?
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Apr 11 21:42:47 <dub>	doh
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Apr 11 21:43:10 <unbalanced>	Good luck all... this is going to be quite the night.
Apr 11 21:43:52 <thestringer>	$avg
Apr 11 21:43:54 <mpexbot>	thestringer: 123.56
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Apr 11 21:44:34 <thestringer>	are people seeing these trades go through?
Apr 11 21:44:36 <thestringer>	;;ticker
Apr 11 21:44:37 <tiberiusiv>	its amazing that people continue to trust the scum mircea
Apr 11 21:44:41 <dub>	thestringer: yeah
Apr 11 21:44:47 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 11 21:44:49 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: you forgot "gypsy"
Apr 11 21:44:50 <mod6>	its snowing like a sonofabitch out there, but if it goes sub-20 im running up to walgreens
Apr 11 21:44:52 <dub>	apparently the engine wasnt halted at all
Apr 11 21:45:06 <dub>	so unfunded orders that become funded, execute
Apr 11 21:45:08 <KRS1>	how long til gox comes back online
Apr 11 21:45:08 <thestringer>	mod6: hahahahahah you MN weirdo's and your snow in spring
Apr 11 21:45:17 <mod6>	its crazy
Apr 11 21:45:43 <mod6>	it was nice (in the 50's) lastweek, now it's been snowing for 2 days!?
Apr 11 21:45:50 <guruvan>	6min by my clock
Apr 11 21:46:20 <thestringer>	tiberiusiv: mircea_popescu isn't trying to scam anyone, I would say he has the most vested interest in bitcoin than the speculator betting his life savings
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Apr 11 21:46:35 <tiberiusiv>	did you not just read the convo
Apr 11 21:46:42 <tiberiusiv>	thestringer be quiet.
Apr 11 21:46:58 <KRS1>	thanks
Apr 11 21:47:00 <tiberiusiv>	mircea popescu lost up to 30,000 bitcoins last month insuring against bitcoin price volatility
Apr 11 21:47:02 <Locksley>	apart of speculative trading, what are people mostly using BTC for?
Apr 11 21:47:06 <tiberiusiv>	a huge portion of that went to bugpowder
Apr 11 21:47:20 <tiberiusiv>	the gypsy mircea is now blatantly rigging his exchange
Apr 11 21:47:28 <tiberiusiv>	to ensure that this month, there is heavy losses by players on it
Apr 11 21:47:43 <thestringer>	yes Bugpowder won those fair and sqaure
Apr 11 21:47:57 <tiberiusiv>	mircea's business's
Apr 11 21:48:03 <copumpkin>	oh, I was missing that "gypsy"
Apr 11 21:48:04 <tiberiusiv>	generate barely a handful of BTCs per month
Apr 11 21:48:15 <tiberiusiv>	he cant handle huge losses over and over
Apr 11 21:48:28 <tiberiusiv>	so now that he showed everyone the huge "gains" players made
Apr 11 21:48:33 <tiberiusiv>	its time to fleece them
Apr 11 21:48:36 <thestringer>	tiberiusiv: that's speculation you don't know how deep his pockets run...
Apr 11 21:48:40 <tiberiusiv>	lol he was off by "milliseconds"
Apr 11 21:48:43 <tiberiusiv>	thestringer sure i do.
Apr 11 21:48:55 <tiberiusiv>	you can tell by how little income his shitty business's generate
Apr 11 21:49:02 <tiberiusiv>	+ his patheticly scum lifestyle
Apr 11 21:49:13 <copumpkin>	not sure how you can tell
Apr 11 21:49:22 <tiberiusiv>	the evidence is in the open
Apr 11 21:49:25 <copumpkin>	some very rich people live very frugally and are content with a little income
Apr 11 21:49:27 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder was screwed out of 1000 BTC
Apr 11 21:49:27 <guruvan>	wtf - did he fuck your dog or something tiberiusiv?
Apr 11 21:49:30 <error4733>	tiberiusiv  #mpHater  they're plenty
Apr 11 21:49:50 <tiberiusiv>	2 weeks ago i warned this chat about mirceas ongoing fraud
Apr 11 21:49:57 <tiberiusiv>	and the fact taht he lives in the fraud capital of the world (romania)
Apr 11 21:49:57 <copumpkin>	there's a certain kind of person who shows up in here insulting mircea and calling him a gypsy
Apr 11 21:50:04 <copumpkin>	it's "a thing", somehow
Apr 11 21:50:12 <tiberiusiv>	and here we go, bugpowder loses out on 1k
Apr 11 21:50:13 <guruvan>	yeah - I understand somehow
Apr 11 21:50:18 <KRS1>	lol guru
Apr 11 21:50:36 <KRS1>	..and his dog be all walkin funny and stuff now
Apr 11 21:50:43 <guruvan>	lol
Apr 11 21:50:43 <tiberiusiv>	theres a reason mircea lives in 3rd world romania. its for the cheap police/judicial protection
Apr 11 21:50:51 <dub>	copumpkin: ciuciurian?
Apr 11 21:50:56 <copumpkin>	dub: yeah
Apr 11 21:51:06 <copumpkin>	tiberiusiv: where are you from?
Apr 11 21:51:17 <tiberiusiv>	US
Apr 11 21:51:21 <copumpkin>	interesting
Apr 11 21:51:26 <tiberiusiv>	the greatest nation ever put together by man
Apr 11 21:51:33 <copumpkin>	oh of course
Apr 11 21:51:34 <thestringer>	now that's trollin'
Apr 11 21:51:35 <tiberiusiv>	since at least roman times
Apr 11 21:51:44 <thestringer>	America is a terrible place to live.
Apr 11 21:51:48 <tiberiusiv>	and ironically you owe your bitcoin wealth to US government policies.
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Apr 11 21:51:57 <copumpkin>	thestringer: not sure I'd go that far
Apr 11 21:52:04 <thestringer>	no I owe my bitcoin wealth to EU policy
Apr 11 21:52:05 <tiberiusiv>	whats wrong with america?
Apr 11 21:52:07 <copumpkin>	it depends on many factors
Apr 11 21:52:11 <copumpkin>	it's bad if you're poor
Apr 11 21:52:13 <tiberiusiv>	lowest sales tax in the world, lowest consumer prices in the world
Apr 11 21:52:27 <tiberiusiv>	being poor in america you still have an iphone and a 50" plasma in your house.
Apr 11 21:52:42 <copumpkin>	all on credit, and you go bankrupt if you get sick
Apr 11 21:52:49 <tiberiusiv>	so?
Apr 11 21:52:55 <copumpkin>	I'm saying that's shitty
Apr 11 21:52:59 <tiberiusiv>	2 years after bankruptcy your back at it
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Apr 11 21:52:59 <error4733>	yes but you lose 10 year of life
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Apr 11 21:53:15 <error4733>	first generation who lose years this century
Apr 11 21:53:21 <error4733>	young american
Apr 11 21:53:31 <copumpkin>	nah, you can still get sick and just die
Apr 11 21:53:32 <tiberiusiv>	first off bitcoin is a direct product of US government policies
Apr 11 21:53:37 <tiberiusiv>	it would have never existed
Apr 11 21:53:40 <dub>	ok this is devolving rapidly
Apr 11 21:53:41 <thestringpuller>	no it's not
Apr 11 21:53:45 <thestringpuller>	it's all central banks
Apr 11 21:53:47 <thestringpuller>	not just US
Apr 11 21:53:55 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: you like to make this black and white statements
Apr 11 21:53:56 <tiberiusiv>	US is the only one that counts
Apr 11 21:53:59 <thestringpuller>	without and sources
Apr 11 21:54:04 <thestringpuller>	these*
Apr 11 21:54:12 <tiberiusiv>	the US central bank is the only one that counts
Apr 11 21:54:19 <tiberiusiv>	hence why USDs make up the majority of BTC trade.
Apr 11 21:54:21 <copumpkin>	thestringpuller: I think /ignore i the most fruitful way to deal with this, honestly, and I don't recommend that often
Apr 11 21:54:24 <ThickAsThieves>	Gox: Last price:$130.01000
Apr 11 21:54:24 <thestringpuller>	okay, America is the only place in the world
Apr 11 21:54:25 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 11 21:54:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.80000, Best ask: 130.01000, Bid-ask spread: 11.21000, Last trade: 130.01000, 24 hour volume: 99368.41095346, 24 hour low: 110.20003, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 155.34075
Apr 11 21:54:39 <error4733>	it's moving
Apr 11 21:54:39 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller not only just the best.
Apr 11 21:54:51 <tiberiusiv>	the greatest nation under god.
Apr 11 21:54:55 <thestringpuller>	you must be a rich banker who has made his fortune off the backs of the poor
Apr 11 21:55:00 <thestringpuller>	so that makes you just like mircea
Apr 11 21:55:00 <tiberiusiv>	5% of worlds population dominating 95%
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Apr 11 21:55:08 <taub>	lets do this shit
Apr 11 21:55:17 <Bugpowder>	some trades went off already?!
Apr 11 21:55:22 <dub>	yes
Apr 11 21:55:38 <dub>	engine wasnt stopped only ordering
Apr 11 21:56:01 <dub>	<@MagicalTux>I and got executed for some reason (unfunded became funded, etc)
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Apr 11 21:56:16 <dub>	tux is a complete moron etc
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Apr 11 21:56:20 <thestringpuller>	dub: what channel is that from?
Apr 11 21:56:31 <dub>	originally #mtgox I suspect
Apr 11 21:56:38 <mod6>	lol
Apr 11 21:56:43 <thestringpuller>	we should take bets
Apr 11 21:56:48 <dub>	im banned there tho
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Apr 11 21:56:58 <dub>	ddos has begun apparently
Apr 11 21:57:02 <thestringpuller>	who thinks mtgox will resume trading at exactly 200 UTC
Apr 11 21:57:11 <dub>	4 minues till the lagpocalypse
Apr 11 21:57:13 <guruvan>	oh goodie
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Apr 11 21:57:23 <error4733>	in B4 massive ddos & 2589s lag
Apr 11 21:57:27 <dub>	the good news is, $2 bitcoins
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Apr 11 21:57:48 <mod6>	+1 dub
Apr 11 21:58:05 <KRS1>	difficulty will dive at $2
Apr 11 21:58:09 <KRS1>	i think
Apr 11 21:58:17 <lippoper>	100hey KRS
Apr 11 21:58:24 <KRS1>	hey lippoper
Apr 11 21:58:34 <taub>	time?
Apr 11 21:58:42 <mod6>	it did last time KRS1 -- tons of miners just sold their coins on the cheap and left
Apr 11 21:58:44 <taub>	2 mins
Apr 11 21:58:57 <benkay>	;;ticker
Apr 11 21:58:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.80000, Best ask: 130.01000, Bid-ask spread: 11.21000, Last trade: 130.01000, 24 hour volume: 98753.62174303, 24 hour low: 110.20003, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 155.26602
Apr 11 21:59:07 <benkay>	you assholes, $2 bitcoins
Apr 11 21:59:09 <lippoper>	.00so what to do
Apr 11 21:59:16 <error4733>	94$ on BTC E
Apr 11 21:59:18 <swhitt>	bitfloor at 94.75
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Apr 11 21:59:33 <swhitt>	asl;dfjkl;kj43forigjwscdklv;x
Apr 11 21:59:34 <ThickAsThieves>	[09:40] <ThickAsThieves> ;;bids 50
Apr 11 21:59:34 <ThickAsThieves>	[09:40] <ThickAsThieves> ;;asks 300
Apr 11 21:59:34 <ThickAsThieves>	[09:40] <gribble> There are currently 59454.447 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 4883572.76735 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0049 seconds
Apr 11 21:59:34 <ThickAsThieves>	[09:40] <gribble> There are currently 71749.508 bitcoins offered at or under 300.0 USD, worth 16258819.8347 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0101 seconds
Apr 11 21:59:34 <ThickAsThieves>	[21:58] <ThickAsThieves> ;;asks 300
Apr 11 21:59:34 <mod6>	dude, it really doesn't matter what bitcoins are worth in usd, as long as they're worth /something/
Apr 11 21:59:34 <ThickAsThieves>	[21:58] <ThickAsThieves> ;;bids 50
Apr 11 21:59:34 <ThickAsThieves>	[21:58] <gribble> There are currently 47659.374 bitcoins offered at or under 300.0 USD, worth 10943081.2265 USD in total. | Data vintage: 70.7549 seconds
Apr 11 21:59:35 <ThickAsThieves>	[21:58] <gribble> There are currently 24999.454 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 1841913.62725 USD in total. | Data vintage: 71.0610 seconds
Apr 11 21:59:55 <swhitt>	5 seconds
Apr 11 22:00:01 <swhitt>	ding
Apr 11 22:00:17 *	mod6 looks around
Apr 11 22:00:20 <error4733>	aaaaaaaand nothing
Apr 11 22:00:20 <thestringpuller>	DING DING DING DING
Apr 11 22:00:43 <ThickAsThieves>	ddos, ddos, ddos, ddos, ddos, ddos, ddos, ddos, ddos, ddos, ddos, ddos, ddos,
Apr 11 22:01:21 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:01:27 <ThickAsThieves>	infinity
Apr 11 22:01:32 <error4733>	76s
Apr 11 22:01:32 <ThickAsThieves>	and beyond!
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Apr 11 22:01:46 <mod6>	Mtgox trading engine lag: 76.56s
Apr 11 22:01:48 <ThickAsThieves>	diggin this new server
Apr 11 22:01:49 <mod6>	haha
Apr 11 22:01:51 <mod6>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:02:06 <mod6>	death
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Apr 11 22:02:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i just bought all the bitcoins, sry guys
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Apr 11 22:02:50 <KRS1>	lol
Apr 11 22:03:02 <guruvan>	goxweb is tango down
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Apr 11 22:03:16 <Bugpowder_>	is mtgoxlive working for anyone??
Apr 11 22:03:25 <TradeFortress>	MtGox lag is 163.843962 seconds
Apr 11 22:03:27 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 188.4346 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.377620828581 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 11 22:03:28 <guruvan>	amphipod just died too
Apr 11 22:03:29 <dub>	not in the last month or so
Apr 11 22:03:30 <Thinker_>	yeah i got my order in
Apr 11 22:03:34 <maximian>	nothing is working for me
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Apr 11 22:03:40 <TradeFortress>	OMGCRASH
Apr 11 22:03:41 <dub>	Thinker_: did it execute
Apr 11 22:03:43 <benkay>	mod6 i know bro
Apr 11 22:03:44 <TradeFortress>	IT'S TRADING
Apr 11 22:03:44 <thestringpuller_>	;;ticker
Apr 11 22:03:45 <mod6>	here she goes
Apr 11 22:03:46 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 203.234412 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.407279486122 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 11 22:03:46 <benkay>	mod6 i know
Apr 11 22:03:47 <guruvan>	pop to 95 and back to 60 on btce
Apr 11 22:03:53 <deyyo>	66 stamp
Apr 11 22:03:57 <mod6>	97.65
Apr 11 22:03:58 <Bugpowder_>	;;bids 0
Apr 11 22:04:00 <Thinker_>	it is a limit order.  queued successfully
Apr 11 22:04:10 <dub>	Bugpowder_: http://bitcoinium.com/
Apr 11 22:04:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.64514, Best ask: 98.89000, Bid-ask spread: 1.24486, Last trade: 97.64514, 24 hour volume: 102632.33099333, 24 hour low: 98.89000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 153.43391
Apr 11 22:04:15 <gribble>	There are currently 94416288 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 4237009.52326 USD in total. | Data vintage: 47.9025 seconds
Apr 11 22:04:25 <TradeFortress>	wow btce
Apr 11 22:04:27 <mod6>	and back up to 224 seconds of lag...
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Apr 11 22:04:45 <error4733>	GL all
Apr 11 22:04:47 <dub>	Thinker_: yeah I got one in a few seconds before 2 but it hasnt hit
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Apr 11 22:05:05 <thestringpuller_>	;;ticker
Apr 11 22:05:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.05000, Best ask: 90.00000, Bid-ask spread: 11.95000, Last trade: 78.05000, 24 hour volume: 104365.82111687, 24 hour low: 90.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 152.38379
Apr 11 22:05:17 <thestringpuller_>	oh god
Apr 11 22:05:20 <thestringpuller_>	haha
Apr 11 22:05:26 <tiberiusiv>	should have bet you for the under 100 open bugtpowder
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Apr 11 22:05:37 <tiberiusiv>	once again tiberius was correct
Apr 11 22:05:43 <tiberiusiv>	calling the mtgox price at 60-80
Apr 11 22:05:47 <thestringpuller_>	frak never did I think writing puts so low (in the 70's) would take my btcs
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Apr 11 22:06:02 <Namworld>	GOING DOWN EPICLY
Apr 11 22:06:14 <tiberiusiv>	its not going down.
Apr 11 22:06:17 <mod6>	is it trading? all i see is lag
Apr 11 22:06:21 <tiberiusiv>	its simply adusting to 60-80
Apr 11 22:06:41 <pigeons>	which is what direction?
Apr 11 22:06:42 <TradeFortress>	mt gox is just choking
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Apr 11 22:07:28 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 11 22:07:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.77000, Best ask: 85.00000, Bid-ask spread: 7.23000, Last trade: 85.00000, 24 hour volume: 108524.20303764, 24 hour low: 77.77000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 149.42938
Apr 11 22:07:59 <taub>	down
Apr 11 22:08:02 <taub>	128gb ram?
Apr 11 22:08:02 <TradeFortress>	is that from gox?
Apr 11 22:08:03 <taub>	lol
Apr 11 22:08:06 <taub>	yes
Apr 11 22:08:14 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:08:14 <TradeFortress>	bitcoinity.org is lagging
Apr 11 22:08:17 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 289.040998 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.579234923728 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 11 22:08:18 <tiberiusiv>	TIBERIUS PREDICTED IT CORRECTLY AGAIN
Apr 11 22:08:28 <tiberiusiv>	GOX 60-80 TIBERIUS IN HERE
Apr 11 22:08:38 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder 120 call way off the mark
Apr 11 22:08:55 <Bugpowder>	dude you said it would open there
Apr 11 22:08:57 <Bugpowder>	it didn't
Apr 11 22:09:08 <leotreasure>	yay bitcoins cheap again :)
Apr 11 22:09:08 <TradeFortress>	freefall
Apr 11 22:09:09 <tiberiusiv>	yes it did
Apr 11 22:09:13 <tiberiusiv>	where did it open
Apr 11 22:09:17 <Bugpowder>	130
Apr 11 22:09:27 <TradeFortress>	wow price went up for once
Apr 11 22:09:29 <tiberiusiv>	yea a technicaliy trade
Apr 11 22:09:37 <Bugpowder>	then123
Apr 11 22:09:42 <Bugpowder>	look at the 1 minute
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Apr 11 22:10:56 <ThickAsThieves>	so, how bout them red sox
Apr 11 22:10:58 <guruvan>	1678 btc @ 63 bid on btce
Apr 11 22:11:13 <benkay>	wowee
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Apr 11 22:12:56 <Bugpowder>	come on hit 62...
Apr 11 22:13:01 <dub>	I was spamming a sell order that queued within seconds of it opneing, hit at 80
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Apr 11 22:13:19 <Bugpowder>	so boring
Apr 11 22:13:25 <tiberiusiv>	whats the price at
Apr 11 22:13:32 <tiberiusiv>	got filled in low 50's on btce
Apr 11 22:13:53 <Bugpowder>	66/87
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Apr 11 22:14:38 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: join #bitcoin-market for good streaming
Apr 11 22:14:52 <kakobrekla>	morning
Apr 11 22:15:01 <thestring>	;;seen smickles
Apr 11 22:15:02 <guruvan>	howdy
Apr 11 22:15:02 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 32 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 11 22:15:03 <kakobrekla>	so - whats the word
Apr 11 22:15:22 <benkay>	clearing at 75 according to clarkmoody
Apr 11 22:15:31 <guruvan>	looks like trades are flowing.....66-80
Apr 11 22:15:37 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:15:47 <thestring>	smicklesssss
Apr 11 22:15:50 <thestring>	why?!?!?
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Apr 11 22:15:52 <pgp>	damn!
Apr 11 22:16:02 <lippoper>	CRASH
Apr 11 22:16:03 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
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Apr 11 22:16:10 <lippoper>	CRASH
Apr 11 22:16:14 <tiberiusiv>	thnx bugpowder
Apr 11 22:16:20 <lippoper>	I guess they better let people cool off some more
Apr 11 22:16:20 <guruvan>	yep
Apr 11 22:16:33 <pgp>	been afk for last couple hours...
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Apr 11 22:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
Apr 11 22:17:03 <taub>	"We don't like this price, too successful closing  exchange bbl"
Apr 11 22:17:05 <lippoper>	47500bastards processed a lagged sell at market price order of mine at $75 each coin
Apr 11 22:17:21 <KRS1>	the f
Apr 11 22:17:43 <ZedsterX>	is moody updating for anyone?
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Apr 11 22:17:46 <lippoper>	 coins00oh well, i'm seeing $70
Apr 11 22:17:46 <thestring>	mod6: you around?
Apr 11 22:17:53 <tiberiusiv>	50-60 seems like a major support
Apr 11 22:17:53 <dub>	ZedsterX: no
Apr 11 22:17:54 <MJR__>	looks like $70
Apr 11 22:18:01 <ZedsterX>	oki thx
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Apr 11 22:18:30 <Bugpowder>	quite uneventful actually
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Apr 11 22:18:52 <MJR__>	yeah, but funny that they are still lagging
Apr 11 22:18:52 <Bugpowder>	I guess I can crack a beer
Apr 11 22:18:56 <Bugpowder>	yah
Apr 11 22:18:57 <ZedsterX>	and just building lag on bitcoinity....well done gox...just blow it up
Apr 11 22:19:00 <Bugpowder>	but you know
Apr 11 22:19:02 <MJR__>	ugh
Apr 11 22:19:15 <MJR__>	I know there's tons of trading...
Apr 11 22:19:17 <Bugpowder>	this is some serious shit right now
Apr 11 22:19:24 <MJR__>	but who didn't expect that?
Apr 11 22:19:30 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:19:31 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 524.352165 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.05079586772 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 11 22:19:45 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 11 22:19:46 <Bugpowder>	daftspunk: MagicalTux: you have done an amazing job, well done and thankyou for your efforts - no doubt a restless night last night! the new infrastructure is noticeably snappier
Apr 11 22:19:51 <MJR__>	limit trading to lots of 1 BTC, unless closing out position
Apr 11 22:20:08 <MJR__>	well its not 6000 seconds....
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Apr 11 22:20:16 <MJR__>	he does have a point
Apr 11 22:20:18 <kakobrekla>	yet
Apr 11 22:20:24 <MJR__>	true
Apr 11 22:20:24 <Bugpowder>	it can't be 6000 seconds until it is 6000 seconds from open
Apr 11 22:20:31 <MJR__>	hahaha
Apr 11 22:20:35 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 11 22:20:35 <Bugpowder>	seriously
Apr 11 22:20:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.60000, Best ask: 80.00000, Bid-ask spread: 4.40000, Last trade: 80.00000, 24 hour volume: 122680.28709788, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 140.46419
Apr 11 22:20:50 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:20:50 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 538.703263 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.07955530743 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 11 22:20:51 <Bugpowder>	although my orders became open in about 3 minutes
Apr 11 22:20:59 <lippoper>	;;asks 80
Apr 11 22:21:02 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 107.4477 seconds
Apr 11 22:21:06 <ThickAsThieves>	MagicalTux: Wow! So many people wanted to use our website that it lagged worse than before. We are amazing!
Apr 11 22:21:14 <deyyo>	lol
Apr 11 22:21:17 <dub>	lol
Apr 11 22:21:19 <lippoper>	;;bids 80
Apr 11 22:21:22 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0027 seconds
Apr 11 22:21:29 <benkay>	thickasthieves +1
Apr 11 22:21:31 <MJR__>	but srsly, my point is, I don't blame it on the volume, I blame it on the lack of preparation for the volume
Apr 11 22:21:35 <TradeFortress>	We had more account signups than ever!
Apr 11 22:21:38 <lippoper>	orderbook
Apr 11 22:21:43 <ThickAsThieves>	grats to the people who got filled under 70
Apr 11 22:22:02 <lippoper>	it's at 73
Apr 11 22:22:08 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 11 22:22:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.50116, Best ask: 85.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.49884, Last trade: 85.00000, 24 hour volume: 122915.65025360, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 140.22750
Apr 11 22:22:12 <ZedsterX>	and the listentobitcoin gox feed is the sounds of silence
Apr 11 22:22:34 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 11 22:22:38 <gribble>	120.88
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Apr 11 22:23:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:23:53 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 476.933706 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.955769806808 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 11 22:24:08 <Bugpowder>	going down!
Apr 11 22:24:14 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 11 22:24:19 <guruvan>	most people are sending those bitcoins the other way
Apr 11 22:24:28 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 11 22:24:32 <gribble>	There are currently 99528803 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6915266.45866 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.3877 seconds
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Apr 11 22:24:54 <lippoper>	;;bids 75
Apr 11 22:24:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00149 BTC [+]
Apr 11 22:25:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 89 @ 0.001499 = 0.1334 BTC [+]
Apr 11 22:25:07 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 89.4792 seconds
Apr 11 22:25:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 26 @ 0.0015 = 0.039 BTC [+]
Apr 11 22:25:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 45 @ 0.0016 = 0.072 BTC [+]
Apr 11 22:25:18 <lippoper>	;;bids 85
Apr 11 22:25:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 222 @ 0.001889 = 0.4194 BTC [+]
Apr 11 22:25:22 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 85.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 104.2431 seconds
Apr 11 22:25:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 80 @ 0.0019 = 0.152 BTC [+]
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Apr 11 22:27:40 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:27:41 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 430.978772 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.863676633609 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
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Apr 11 22:31:05 <Bugpowder>	sheeeit
Apr 11 22:31:09 <Bugpowder>	gonna bounce
Apr 11 22:31:20 <guruvan>	coinbase is apparently outta coins
Apr 11 22:31:22 <MJR__>	looks like it...
Apr 11 22:31:22 <Bugpowder>	I'm not going to get filled
Apr 11 22:31:50 <Bugpowder>	who knows
Apr 11 22:31:54 <guruvan>	I think I'm glad I didn't sell into this
Apr 11 22:32:13 <guruvan>	I mgiht not have gotten filled either
Apr 11 22:32:16 <error4733>	weak hand to strong hand !
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Apr 11 22:33:10 <Bugpowder>	dman
Apr 11 22:33:13 <Bugpowder>	damn
Apr 11 22:33:21 <Bugpowder>	I shouldn't have cancelled my higher bids
Apr 11 22:33:23 <guruvan>	yep..I'm glad I waited for this pop
Apr 11 22:33:27 <Bugpowder>	well
Apr 11 22:33:30 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:33:31 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 422.906259 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.847499407942 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 11 22:33:34 <Bugpowder>	night is young
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Apr 11 22:33:44 <tiberiusiv>	i got great fills on btc-e
Apr 11 22:33:44 <guruvan>	yea very
Apr 11 22:33:45 <tiberiusiv>	in the 50's
Apr 11 22:33:57 <Bugpowder>	btc-e is always low
Apr 11 22:34:03 <Bugpowder>	why am i not buying there?
Apr 11 22:34:05 <tiberiusiv>	my orders were a floor
Apr 11 22:34:12 <Bugpowder>	got my bid wall up at 81.83
Apr 11 22:34:49 <Bugpowder>	not going to chase this
Apr 11 22:34:57 <Bugpowder>	let it come back to you
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Apr 11 22:35:25 <guruvan>	yea - you'll get another down swing I think
Apr 11 22:35:43 <lippoper>	none of my orders are going through
Apr 11 22:35:44 <tiberiusiv>	theres major support in the 50-60 area
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Apr 11 22:35:48 <tiberiusiv>	i doubt we test it again
Apr 11 22:36:05 <Bugpowder>	;;amphipod: Apr12 02:35:08 mtgox    x127 2,348.0568 @    94.98300306 USD
Apr 11 22:36:11 <Bugpowder>	heh
Apr 11 22:36:13 <gribble>	Error: "amphipod:" is not a valid command.
Apr 11 22:36:18 <jcpham>	https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2tdZG8OsWtLU1BPbGNPNnc0Unc/view?pli=1&sle=true
Apr 11 22:36:22 <jcpham>	that's worth reading
Apr 11 22:36:23 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 11 22:36:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.28100, Best ask: 89.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.71900, Last trade: 98.86500, 24 hour volume: 131113.20175820, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 135.01923
Apr 11 22:36:47 <tiberiusiv>	100+ by end of night imo
Apr 11 22:36:55 <error4733>	150 tonight ?
Apr 11 22:36:58 <ThickAsThieves>	will touch 120
Apr 11 22:36:59 <Bugpowder>	130
Apr 11 22:37:20 <error4733>	ppl have bunch of cash and want buy back cheap coin...
Apr 11 22:37:26 <Bugpowder>	yup
Apr 11 22:37:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;calc (100+150+120+130)/4
Apr 11 22:37:47 <gribble>	125
Apr 11 22:37:50 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 11 22:38:36 <tiberiusiv>	we didnt hit any new lows
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Apr 11 22:38:50 <tiberiusiv>	after the mtgox opening
Apr 11 22:38:58 <mod6>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:39:01 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 287.215846 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.575577339555 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 11 22:39:05 <tiberiusiv>	all earlier lows held at the major exchanges
Apr 11 22:39:09 <mod6>	jeepers
Apr 11 22:39:23 <lippoper>	lol
Apr 11 22:39:32 <lippoper>	6 open orders and none of them go through lmao
Apr 11 22:39:47 <tiberiusiv>	picked up 300 btc in the 50's
Apr 11 22:39:48 <error4733>	ppl have bunch of cash and want buy back cheap coin...
Apr 11 22:39:50 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 11 22:39:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.10000, Best ask: 105.00000, Bid-ask spread: 8.90000, Last trade: 105.00000, 24 hour volume: 130313.95331163, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 133.84358
Apr 11 22:40:00 <tiberiusiv>	nomore was sold had way more bids out
Apr 11 22:40:22 <thestringpuller>	it's trying to get back to 120
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Apr 11 22:40:28 <error4733>	tiberius was right after 3 minutes
Apr 11 22:40:35 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: I'm real tired of your shit mr. american
Apr 11 22:40:56 <tiberiusiv>	im always right error4733
Apr 11 22:40:59 <Bugpowder>	well
Apr 11 22:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39699 BTC [-]
Apr 11 22:41:09 <Bugpowder>	looks like those puts weren't going to do very well
Apr 11 22:41:15 <error4733>	yes umerica alway right
Apr 11 22:41:18 <tiberiusiv>	everyone was expecting gox to completely crash
Apr 11 22:41:22 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 11 22:41:23 <gribble>	120.88
Apr 11 22:41:24 <Bugpowder>	yah
Apr 11 22:41:25 <tiberiusiv>	it was priced in the other 10+ exchanges
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Apr 11 22:41:36 <Bugpowder>	it opened pretty cleanly actually
Apr 11 22:41:39 <Bugpowder>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:41:40 <tiberiusiv>	thank you btc-e
Apr 11 22:41:42 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 326.034632 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.653369752062 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 11 22:41:46 <Bugpowder>	lag is going down
Apr 11 22:41:52 <tiberiusiv>	500 coins bought today between 50-65 for me
Apr 11 22:41:58 <tiberiusiv>	everything available at those levels on btc-e
Apr 11 22:42:15 <tiberiusiv>	too bad they werent dumping more
Apr 11 22:42:29 <tiberiusiv>	now ill just sell them on virtex for 110+
Apr 11 22:42:32 <Bugpowder>	118
Apr 11 22:42:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00068921 = 9.3043 BTC [-]
Apr 11 22:42:50 <error4733>	so you trust BTC E but not MP ?
Apr 11 22:42:55 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 11 22:42:59 <tiberiusiv>	ive done alot of $ on btc-e
Apr 11 22:43:01 <tiberiusiv>	never a single problem
Apr 11 22:43:12 <tiberiusiv>	they are glitchy sometimes
Apr 11 22:43:17 <tiberiusiv>	but i never had payout or pay in issues
Apr 11 22:43:29 <error4733>	same here for lot of ppl with mpex
Apr 11 22:43:44 <Bugpowder>	watch for the selloff
Apr 11 22:43:44 <TradeFortress>	> trusts BTC-e
Apr 11 22:43:55 <Bugpowder>	ripple time
Apr 11 22:44:23 <Bugpowder>	peak at 128 maybe?
Apr 11 22:44:51 <ThickAsThieves>	bought at 80 selling at 120-125
Apr 11 22:45:08 <lippoper>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:45:09 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 285.515172 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.572169207901 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Apr 11 22:45:11 <mod6>	ooh 114?
Apr 11 22:45:38 <mod6>	oop the ole 285 seconds of fuck you time
Apr 11 22:45:41 <Bugpowder>	I missed the bottom. :(
Apr 11 22:45:45 <mod6>	:/
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Apr 11 22:46:26 <Bugpowder>	sold at 128.8
Apr 11 22:46:30 <Bugpowder>	filled
Apr 11 22:46:38 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 11 22:46:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.00000, Best ask: 125.00000, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 125.00000, 24 hour volume: 133541.68810606, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 132.71395
Apr 11 22:47:30 <Bugpowder>	wow
Apr 11 22:47:34 <Bugpowder>	we might hit 138
Apr 11 22:47:38 <Bugpowder>	or even 148
Apr 11 22:47:43 <Bugpowder>	SWEET
Apr 11 22:48:26 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 11 22:48:36 <Bugpowder>	filled at 138.8
Apr 11 22:48:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.11100, Best ask: 120.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.87900, Last trade: 120.11100, 24 hour volume: 135016.12147670, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 132.66778
Apr 11 22:48:53 <Bugpowder>	can we hit 148?
Apr 11 22:48:57 <Bugpowder>	got more there
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Apr 11 22:49:26 <Bugpowder>	monster bounce
Apr 11 22:49:28 <Bugpowder>	loving it
Apr 11 22:49:36 <l0nhx>	SELL
Apr 11 22:49:52 <Bugpowder>	I am selling
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Apr 11 22:50:59 <Bugpowder>	That was the top
Apr 11 22:51:03 <Bugpowder>	now back down
Apr 11 22:51:13 <Bugpowder>	in the 80-90 range
Apr 11 22:51:33 <l0nhx>	more like down to 60-70
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Apr 11 22:52:56 <Bugpowder>	fuck fuck fuck
Apr 11 22:53:02 <mjr___>	lol
Apr 11 22:53:03 <Bugpowder>	just bid at 138
Apr 11 22:53:06 <mjr___>	that was a crazy spike
Apr 11 22:53:08 <Bugpowder>	instead of sold
Apr 11 22:53:26 <mjr___>	is the bot down?
Apr 11 22:54:34 <Bugpowder>	CANCELLLL
Apr 11 22:54:40 <dub>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 22:54:40 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 243.513888 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.487999105035 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
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Apr 11 22:54:57 <dub>	canceling in 243+243 seconds
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Apr 11 22:57:05 <Bugpowder>	cancelled!  whew!
Apr 11 22:57:48 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 11 22:57:56 <kakobrekla>	thank to the god of lag
Apr 11 22:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39699 BTC [-]
Apr 11 22:58:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 11 22:58:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.00000, Best ask: 122.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 121.00000, 24 hour volume: 139480.75186033, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 132.38465
Apr 11 22:59:19 <lippoper>	back to square one
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Apr 11 23:00:30 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 23:00:34 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 71.274938 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.142834177718 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
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Apr 11 23:03:20 <taub>	clarkmoody working again
Apr 11 23:03:38 <ThickAsThieves>	thx!
Apr 11 23:03:54 <ThickAsThieves>	ohhh this will be magical
Apr 11 23:04:05 <error4733>	omg, i fell better with clarkmoody
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Apr 11 23:04:41 <ThickAsThieves>	sell!
Apr 11 23:04:57 <jcpham>	to infinity and beyond!
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Apr 11 23:05:24 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 23:05:26 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3.034965 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00608203587884 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
Apr 11 23:05:43 <jcpham>	gox going through the roof
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Apr 11 23:07:17 <jcpham>	or the floor?
Apr 11 23:07:36 <lippoper>	it's wildly stabilising around 120
Apr 11 23:07:51 <lippoper>	even with ThickAsThieves selling
Apr 11 23:08:04 <lippoper>	going up
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Apr 11 23:08:08 <lippoper>	Woahh
Apr 11 23:08:10 <lippoper>	going down
Apr 11 23:08:36 <jcpham>	daily -avg is the best rate i'm willing to give from now on
Apr 11 23:08:40 <lippoper>	lol
Apr 11 23:08:41 <jcpham>	these exchanges are madness
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Apr 11 23:08:45 <lippoper>	$avg
Apr 11 23:08:47 <mpexbot>	lippoper: 112.56
Apr 11 23:08:53 <lippoper>	not bad
Apr 11 23:08:54 <lippoper>	i wasn
Apr 11 23:08:57 <pigeons>	$vwap
Apr 11 23:08:59 <lippoper>	I wasn't too far off
Apr 11 23:08:59 <mpexbot>	pigeons: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=i7NPvwcz
Apr 11 23:09:47 <l0nhx>	now it goes down
Apr 11 23:09:53 <l0nhx>	prob hit 80 might even be 70
Apr 11 23:10:17 <pigeons>	tiberiusiv is quiet
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Apr 11 23:11:56 <benkay>	;;ticker
Apr 11 23:11:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.10000, Best ask: 105.00000, Bid-ask spread: 4.90000, Last trade: 100.10000, 24 hour volume: 150127.96139348, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 129.98614
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Apr 11 23:13:30 <l0nhx>	100s gionna break
Apr 11 23:13:54 <l0nhx>	SELL SELL SELL
Apr 11 23:13:59 <l0nhx>	buy back in at 60-70-80
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Apr 11 23:16:15 <mjr___>	i think mt gox needs more hamsters...
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Apr 11 23:16:30 <mjr___>	these ones aren't running fast enough
Apr 11 23:17:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 23 @ 0.12002 = 2.7605 BTC [-]
Apr 11 23:18:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6962 @ 0.00069119 = 4.8121 BTC [+]
Apr 11 23:18:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13746 @ 0.00070081 = 9.6333 BTC [+]
Apr 11 23:19:08 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 23:19:09 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 80.818165 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.161958697775 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 11 23:19:16 <benkay>	when did that happen?
Apr 11 23:19:18 <benkay>	;;ticker
Apr 11 23:19:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.00000, Best ask: 100.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.00000, Last trade: 100.00000, 24 hour volume: 156742.04855883, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 128.44508
Apr 11 23:19:22 <mjr___>	good night all, let's see what happens
Apr 11 23:19:43 <benkay>	wait mjr_ mjr
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Apr 11 23:21:31 <lippoper>	sell
Apr 11 23:21:33 <lippoper>	holy cow
Apr 11 23:21:44 <l0nhx>	sell
Apr 11 23:22:08 <benkay>	;;ticker
Apr 11 23:22:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.30000, Best ask: 99.86000, Bid-ask spread: 3.56000, Last trade: 99.86000, 24 hour volume: 158037.02810534, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 128.10982
Apr 11 23:23:51 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 11 23:25:27 <tiberiusiv>	total losses have to be at least 15-20mil
Apr 11 23:25:30 <tiberiusiv>	for new comers
Apr 11 23:25:46 <leotreasure>	;;goxlag
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Apr 11 23:25:58 <benkay>	lotta people gon' be a hesitatin' to get back in on deese newfangled cryptocurrencies, i say
Apr 11 23:26:00 <leotreasure>	woops
Apr 11 23:26:00 <guruvan>	;;gribblelag
Apr 11 23:26:01 <gribble>	Error: "gribblelag" is not a valid command.
Apr 11 23:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.397 = 5.558 BTC [+]
Apr 11 23:26:07 <leotreasure>	lol
Apr 11 23:26:31 <error4733>	;;eightball MtGox is down ?
Apr 11 23:26:32 <gribble>	Yes!
Apr 11 23:26:49 <guruvan>	lol got it right there buddy
Apr 11 23:26:55 <benkay>	haha gribble should always answer yes to that question
Apr 11 23:27:14 <benkay>	NANO
Apr 11 23:27:42 <benkay>	please make gribble always answer yes to "mt gox" and "down" or something smart
Apr 11 23:28:25 <error4733>	;;eightball 128GB ram is enough ?
Apr 11 23:28:25 <gribble>	Of course.
Apr 11 23:28:38 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 11 23:28:48 <ThickAsThieves>	gay!
Apr 11 23:29:14 <ThickAsThieves>	the fun was just beginning
Apr 11 23:29:25 <l0nhx>	this is over
Apr 11 23:29:31 <l0nhx>	insiders in gox trading
Apr 11 23:29:37 <l0nhx>	price will fall to 0 soon
Apr 11 23:29:41 <KRS1>	what!
Apr 11 23:29:49 <KRS1>	dont be trollin like that dawg
Apr 11 23:29:52 <error4733>	minus 25 in 1h
Apr 11 23:29:55 <l0nhx>	sell while u can
Apr 11 23:30:05 <l0nhx>	didn't u see the trades while gox where "offline" ?
Apr 11 23:30:24 <tiberiusiv>	what the hell is a ripple
Apr 11 23:30:28 <tiberiusiv>	whose debt is it
Apr 11 23:30:36 <error4733>	its futur
Apr 11 23:30:44 <KRS1>	really 10nhx?
Apr 11 23:30:52 <ThickAsThieves>	last trade in chan was
Apr 11 23:30:53 <ThickAsThieves>	[23:26] <+amphipod> Apr12 03:25:43 mtgox      x5    14.4638 @   108.13153829 USD
Apr 11 23:31:12 <l0nhx>	go look at the trade history if u don't belive me
Apr 11 23:31:25 <ThickAsThieves>	on clark?
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Apr 11 23:31:34 <mod6>	wb
Apr 11 23:31:42 <ThickAsThieves>	wb?
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Apr 11 23:31:54 <Guest62780>	think he is talking to me
Apr 11 23:31:55 <mod6>	yeah i'd be trying to gtfo before that thing ends up like bitcoinica
Apr 11 23:32:00 <l0nhx>	wherever u want to look. around 260 btc were trades when it was on "cooldown"
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Apr 11 23:32:05 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 11 23:32:12 <dub>	l0nhx: yes, its been explained
Apr 11 23:32:18 <ChaangNoi>	gox fail again, oh lol
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Apr 11 23:33:01 <dub>	l0nhx: tux doesn't know what 'halt trading' means, he halted new orders
Apr 11 23:33:23 <dub>	l0nhx: some orders that didn't have funds available got funded and executed
Apr 11 23:33:28 <l0nhx>	well say what u want. i cant get into gox nomore.
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Apr 11 23:33:36 <l0nhx>	yh right..
Apr 11 23:33:37 <dub>	new ddos apparently
Apr 11 23:33:38 <error4733>	where is the camera ??????
Apr 11 23:33:44 <lippoper>	so now what
Apr 11 23:34:10 <taub>	someone got a mirror of their latest press release?
Apr 11 23:34:11 <mod6>	http://youtu.be/wzQM-tLIz9M << music my gf humms to me when i tell her that gox has gone down
Apr 11 23:34:36 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 11 23:34:42 <dub>	i could use a hummer every time gox is down
Apr 11 23:34:58 <ThickAsThieves>	gox should go down on every customer
Apr 11 23:35:04 <KRS1>	looking at pr0ns right now is better than this crap
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Apr 11 23:35:42 <ThickAsThieves>	We should buy MagicalTux a shirt that says "I like going down."
Apr 11 23:35:46 <lippoper>	well, they came back online and the price has dropped another $30
Apr 11 23:36:20 <lippoper>	now they have crashed again, I would bitbet, they say the market needs to cool down with the new price
Apr 11 23:36:42 <tiberiusiv>	no it hasnt loppoper
Apr 11 23:36:47 <lippoper>	"so we're halting trading until 22:00 UTC
Apr 11 23:36:50 <tiberiusiv>	the price hasnt really changed in the last few hours
Apr 11 23:37:05 <lippoper>	I'm referring to Mt.Gox prices
Apr 11 23:37:09 <tiberiusiv>	its been 60-90 half the day on the other exchanges
Apr 11 23:37:11 <lippoper>	it opened at $120
Apr 11 23:37:12 <benkay>	even though they've blocked new access and are letting their internal state of orders and price resolution play out
Apr 11 23:37:18 <lippoper>	crashed again at $95
Apr 11 23:37:18 <benkay>	there's still a stable price
Apr 11 23:37:21 <tiberiusiv>	loppoper that wasnt a real open
Apr 11 23:37:22 <benkay>	that's amazing
Apr 11 23:37:39 <tiberiusiv>	price resolution did play out
Apr 11 23:37:43 <tiberiusiv>	on the other 10 exchanges
Apr 11 23:37:53 <tiberiusiv>	and merchant websites and silkroad
Apr 11 23:38:23 <lippoper>	You guys are amazingly technical with your wording.  You know what I meant to say.
Apr 11 23:38:40 <ThickAsThieves>	all i see is hot air
Apr 11 23:38:45 <ThickAsThieves>	just relax
Apr 11 23:38:59 <mjr___>	dumbasses...still letting .01 spam on their book
Apr 11 23:39:19 <guruvan>	should charge for order entry
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Apr 11 23:39:40 <ThickAsThieves>	now that would be interesting
Apr 11 23:40:08 <lippoper>	Well, there are no fees, so why would they not spam .01 now
Apr 11 23:41:31 <mjr___>	that is what you would call an "odd lot" in normal markets
Apr 11 23:41:35 <mjr___>	and you can restrict those
Apr 11 23:41:51 <mjr___>	for example...many people won't let me buy 21 shares of BAC
Apr 11 23:41:56 <mjr___>	i have to get 100
Apr 11 23:42:16 <mjr___>	so if you limit orderse to 1 or even .1, you limit a lot of worthless orders
Apr 11 23:42:31 <error4733>	a little fork ? a twitter from a columbian drug cartel's adopting bitcoin ? what's next ?
Apr 11 23:43:19 <tiberiusiv>	mjr be quiet
Apr 11 23:43:31 <tiberiusiv>	go back to reading rich dad poor dad
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Apr 11 23:44:06 <mjr___>	dude...i think mircea should speak at bitcoin 2013
Apr 11 23:44:15 <mjr___>	he has to use the word "muppet" though
Apr 11 23:44:18 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 11 23:44:33 <dub>	no he shouldnt
Apr 11 23:44:58 <mjr___>	why not?
Apr 11 23:45:02 <mjr___>	i think it would be awesome
Apr 11 23:45:09 <dub>	who is organising bitcoin 2013
Apr 11 23:45:17 <dub>	Im going to guess its amir
Apr 11 23:45:18 <mjr___>	i would say he is a larger part of the community than most of the people from the foundation
Apr 11 23:45:23 <taub>	alright back to sleep
Apr 11 23:45:23 <dub>	and nefario
Apr 11 23:45:24 <mjr___>	don't think so
Apr 11 23:45:29 <taub>	holding almost no btc
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Apr 11 23:45:43 <evoorhees>	bitcoin 2013 is put on by the Foundation
Apr 11 23:45:48 <dub>	even worse
Apr 11 23:45:49 <mjr___>	yep
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Apr 11 23:45:55 <evoorhees>	nothing to do with amir
Apr 11 23:45:58 <mjr___>	i'm just saying, i am not a fan of echo chambers
Apr 11 23:45:59 <dub>	I bet that s.dice scammer is involved
Apr 11 23:46:09 <dub>	oh hai evoorhees
Apr 11 23:46:12 <mjr___>	so it would be cool to hear from other parts of the community
Apr 11 23:46:23 <mjr___>	especially since s.dice, etc are big
Apr 11 23:46:32 <dub>	no, those idiots should be left to jerk in the circle
Apr 11 23:46:34 <mjr___>	i was surprised you aren't speaking evoorhees
Apr 11 23:46:41 <mjr___>	i'm going to the conference
Apr 11 23:46:45 <evoorhees>	I am speaking
Apr 11 23:46:45 <dub>	let useful people continue being useful
Apr 11 23:46:52 <mjr___>	ah, i didn't see it in the list
Apr 11 23:47:00 <mjr___>	must have missed it
Apr 11 23:47:09 <benkay>	i think there's a fair amount of value in seeing human beings
Apr 11 23:47:24 <ThickAsThieves>	evoorhees, i'd like to volunteer to be the next insider whale that gambles sdice revenue to syphon btc from shareholders, pm plz
Apr 11 23:47:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;)
Apr 11 23:47:35 <tiberiusiv>	the fraudster mircea wont be leaving romania anytime soon
Apr 11 23:47:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.701 BTC [-]
Apr 11 23:47:53 <evoorhees>	you mean syphon btc TO shareholders
Apr 11 23:47:55 <evoorhees>	you got it backwards
Apr 11 23:48:08 <ThickAsThieves>	i only win
Apr 11 23:48:13 <benkay>	tiberiusiv will you be there?
Apr 11 23:48:16 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees did you sell any of your vast btc holdings in the 200+
Apr 11 23:48:33 <dub>	you mean take a large profit away from your shareholders and go 'whoops? is that how markets work?'
Apr 11 23:48:44 <tiberiusiv>	lol dub
Apr 11 23:48:54 <dub>	this is the evoorhees method
Apr 11 23:49:03 <evoorhees>	tiberiusiv I sold some coins at 234 but not a ton
Apr 11 23:49:20 <tiberiusiv>	huge net worth hit last 2 days
Apr 11 23:49:45 <evoorhees>	dub what was taken from shareholders exactly?
Apr 11 23:49:51 <ThickAsThieves>	trying to make it back, but goxed again
Apr 11 23:50:08 <ThickAsThieves>	nothing
Apr 11 23:50:10 <mjr___>	oh gosh, i sincerely hope i don't hve to put up with IRL trolling from tiberiusiv
Apr 11 23:50:15 <dub>	evoorhees: when you dumped your last round of shares
Apr 11 23:50:21 <ThickAsThieves>	but it would be supercool to see more sdice promo
Apr 11 23:50:26 <ThickAsThieves>	and features
Apr 11 23:50:32 <ThickAsThieves>	and visible developments
Apr 11 23:50:47 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees when are you going to admit to pumping worthless shares up by faking playing on sdice
Apr 11 23:50:59 <benkay>	i want to see tiberiusiv troll like that f2f
Apr 11 23:51:07 <dub>	pumping? he took a giant dump on them
Apr 11 23:51:08 <tiberiusiv>	tactics the gypsy mircea has adapted
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Apr 11 23:51:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i own like .001% of your company, i demand answers!
Apr 11 23:51:14 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 11 23:51:35 <dub>	"Oh lol you wanted to sell???, thats not how markets work!"
Apr 11 23:51:37 <evoorhees>	tiberiusiv hmmmm okay so if you see "pumping" again with no release of more shares will you admit your accusations are silly, or continue being a dick?
Apr 11 23:51:52 <mjr___>	probably go with dick
Apr 11 23:52:04 <mjr___>	don't know what he said, since most of us have ignored him for weeks now
Apr 11 23:52:16 <evoorhees>	lol
Apr 11 23:52:17 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: ever watch boiler room
Apr 11 23:52:22 <evoorhees>	no
Apr 11 23:52:31 <tiberiusiv>	documentary about you and mircea
Apr 11 23:52:36 <ThickAsThieves>	evoorhees ever watch meatballs?
Apr 11 23:52:48 <ThickAsThieves>	good stuff
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Apr 11 23:53:28 <Bugpowder>	Tux says DDOS
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Apr 11 23:53:36 <l0nhx>	as always
Apr 11 23:53:38 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: do you ever plan on exiting 100% out of btc
Apr 11 23:53:41 <l0nhx>	feds are attackin gox :(
Apr 11 23:53:52 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: will always be a dick
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Apr 11 23:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [-]
Apr 11 23:54:11 <evoorhees>	tiberiusiv no I don't
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Apr 11 23:54:16 <kakobrekla>	omg gox :\
Apr 11 23:54:17 <ThickAsThieves>	since mp hasnt posted porn in a while, a scene from meatballs for you http://images.celebritymoviearchive.com/members/thumbs/b/bM7552-NeriahDavis&KristiDucati&MicheStraube@Meatballs4.jpg
Apr 11 23:54:19 <evoorhees>	not even 90% out
Apr 11 23:54:25 <evoorhees>	not even 10% out
Apr 11 23:54:37 <tiberiusiv>	damn
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Apr 11 23:54:48 <tiberiusiv>	speaking of scum
Apr 11 23:54:50 <evoorhees>	why does everyone think the goal is to "get out" of bitcoin at some point?
Apr 11 23:55:12 <deyyo_>	the goal is now ;>
Apr 11 23:55:14 <ThickAsThieves>	because we arent as satoshi pure as you
Apr 11 23:55:15 <tiberiusiv>	everything has a time and a place evorhees
Apr 11 23:55:16 <mjr___>	^^^^^this
Apr 11 23:55:21 <dub>	because not everyone is a retarded libertarian?
Apr 11 23:55:27 <evoorhees>	nice one dub
Apr 11 23:55:27 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 11 23:55:29 <mjr___>	to what erik said
Apr 11 23:55:34 <mjr___>	hahaha
Apr 11 23:55:43 <mjr___>	you guys will see when QE stops...
Apr 11 23:55:49 <ezdiy>	dub: nope
Apr 11 23:56:04 <mjr___>	and the massive stock pile of cash hits the streets
Apr 11 23:56:05 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: every asset class has a time and a place and that goes for currency
Apr 11 23:56:06 <ezdiy>	dub: ThickAsThieves is mad because his illegal investments are not that profitable anymore
Apr 11 23:56:18 <ThickAsThieves>	i aint mad
Apr 11 23:56:19 <dub>	its kinda like the 'why would anyone sell s.dice?' question he asked
Apr 11 23:56:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i be trollin
Apr 11 23:56:21 <evoorhees>	sure that's probably true
Apr 11 23:56:24 <ThickAsThieves>	bored
Apr 11 23:56:27 <ezdiy>	i think evoorhees should release more that 10% though
Apr 11 23:56:31 <tiberiusiv>	everything has a price dub
Apr 11 23:56:40 <tiberiusiv>	ezdiy: why the stock would collapse
Apr 11 23:56:45 <ezdiy>	selling all that revenue to bitinstant is gonna backfire sooner or later
Apr 11 23:56:47 <ezdiy>	even with good lawyers
Apr 11 23:56:48 <ezdiy>	:)
Apr 11 23:57:05 <tiberiusiv>	well evorhees wasnt very bright teaming up with the bitinstant crew
Apr 11 23:57:12 <tiberiusiv>	because now hes acting as a cashier for his casino
Apr 11 23:57:27 <evoorhees>	hehehe there is so much misinformation swimming around here
Apr 11 23:57:37 <evoorhees>	talk about echo chambers...
Apr 11 23:57:39 <ezdiy>	evoorhees: just implying rumours :)
Apr 11 23:57:40 <ThickAsThieves>	tiberiusiv is like a black belt troll i swear
Apr 11 23:57:45 <dub>	thats one way of ignoring the truth
Apr 11 23:57:48 <ezdiy>	evoorhees: but give it a though :)
Apr 11 23:57:53 <lippoper>	well this market price sux0rz
Apr 11 23:57:59 <dub>	'lol so many lies, I can just ignore anythign that doesnt suit me'
Apr 11 23:58:00 <taub>	okay here we go, testing 60
Apr 11 23:58:05 <maximian>	evoorhees: tiberius is like EskimoBob but with a  vocabulary upgrade
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Apr 11 23:58:09 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees what are the chances you ever set foot in the US again voluntarily?
Apr 11 23:58:12 <KRS1>	yawn
Apr 11 23:58:26 <taub>	bitfloor sadly doesnt hold up
Apr 11 23:58:30 <evoorhees>	I'll be in the US in a few weeks
Apr 11 23:58:33 <taub>	btce only consistently non shit exchange
Apr 11 23:58:42 <taub>	except that time they got hacked
Apr 11 23:58:47 <dub>	tiberiusiv: gitmo is in the US
Apr 11 23:58:53 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 11 23:59:05 <tiberiusiv>	gitmo is leased from cuba
Apr 11 23:59:42 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: how come you never reduced the min play on sdice
Apr 12 00:00:05 <ThickAsThieves>	the future exists
Apr 12 00:00:07 <evoorhees>	because the site would lose money on small bets due to the fee
Apr 12 00:00:13 <evoorhees>	unless the fee was lowered
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Apr 12 00:00:23 <evoorhees>	and if the fee is lowered, more txs will not be included in blocks
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Apr 12 00:00:37 <evoorhees>	so once the community has lowered the normal fees, then SD will lower the bet size
Apr 12 00:00:46 <Bugpowder>	evoorhees: I don't want to get out of bitcoin, I want to get rich in both fiat and bitcoin via bitcoin.
Apr 12 00:00:52 <ThickAsThieves>	thats okat because youre gonna do the right thing and enable satoshidice.com accounts one day tho
Apr 12 00:01:04 <evoorhees>	of course
Apr 12 00:01:07 <Bugpowder>	the fees aren't going to be lowered
Apr 12 00:01:13 <Bugpowder>	reddit is full of whiners
Apr 12 00:01:21 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees what fee?
Apr 12 00:01:26 <Bugpowder>	txn fee
Apr 12 00:01:30 <ThickAsThieves>	troll toll
Apr 12 00:01:30 <tiberiusiv>	isnt it 0
Apr 12 00:01:54 <ThickAsThieves>	http://vimeo.com/18386919
Apr 12 00:02:04 <Bugpowder>	This DDOS is great, I'm totally going to get filled at 91 and 81 when we come back up
Apr 12 00:02:15 <Bugpowder>	We will re-ripple the ripple
Apr 12 00:02:18 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder can you kindly send benkay the logs of you being defrauded by captain gpsy caravan
Apr 12 00:02:20 <evoorhees>	glad my bid is at 91.2 then ;)
Apr 12 00:02:21 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug the ddos will push it lower i think
Apr 12 00:02:29 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: nah I'm over it for now
Apr 12 00:02:32 <ThickAsThieves>	but i also have bids in that range
Apr 12 00:02:48 <Bugpowder>	I'm sure someone has what I posted
Apr 12 00:03:43 <Bugpowder>	I really need to start a collection of these ripples on imgur
Apr 12 00:03:50 <ChaangNoi>	evoorhees ignore tiberslav, he is a troll only back now btc is crashing:)
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Apr 12 00:04:09 <tiberiusiv>	the gook chimes in
Apr 12 00:04:17 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 12 00:04:27 <ThickAsThieves>	ignored, again
Apr 12 00:04:30 <Skarr>	There IS a blasphemous solution. Once accounts exist, convert SatoshiDice to not rely on bitcoin transactions for its random number generator. Instead, have the generated numbers externally audited, eliminate fees for bitcoin transfers, except for occasional, larger transfers into accounts.
Apr 12 00:05:18 <evoorhees>	the traditional SD will remain
Apr 12 00:05:24 <dub>	that would require work
Apr 12 00:05:30 <evoorhees>	but accounts will be added
Apr 12 00:05:37 <dub>	evoorhees is all about scamming profits
Apr 12 00:05:41 <ezdiy>	Skarr: it's not blasphemous. it is still true to the original idea, ie numbers racket :)
Apr 12 00:05:43 <dub>	not spending money
Apr 12 00:05:43 <evoorhees>	dub why are you such a douche all the time to me?
Apr 12 00:05:51 <dub>	evoorhees: because you are a douch to us
Apr 12 00:05:55 <tiberiusiv>	becuas he bought sdice at the top
Apr 12 00:05:55 <evoorhees>	how?
Apr 12 00:06:00 <ThickAsThieves>	dub hasnt been sour for like weeks
Apr 12 00:06:05 <ThickAsThieves>	then erik shows up
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Apr 12 00:06:39 <dub>	you still don;t "understand" eh
Apr 12 00:06:45 <evoorhees>	nope
Apr 12 00:06:47 <dub>	how convenient
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Apr 12 00:06:52 <tiberiusiv>	dub: athiest libertarians rarely have any actual values
Apr 12 00:07:02 <dub>	lol
Apr 12 00:07:05 <tiberiusiv>	its just about the $
Apr 12 00:07:13 <tiberiusiv>	dont matter the method of obtaining it
Apr 12 00:07:16 <mjr___>	i'm lost too
Apr 12 00:07:22 <evoorhees>	my values are not to hurt people, lie, cheat, steal, or be a douche
Apr 12 00:07:22 <dub>	evoorhees its like this, when there is more demand than supply the "value" of an item goes up
Apr 12 00:07:36 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: lol coming from a gambling operator
Apr 12 00:07:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
Apr 12 00:07:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.693 BTC [-]
Apr 12 00:07:48 <evoorhees>	do your sky people tell you gambling is immoral?
Apr 12 00:07:49 <ThickAsThieves>	oh is this about the tranches
Apr 12 00:07:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.67001 BTC [-]
Apr 12 00:08:14 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: youve already sucked out tens of thousands from broke students by linking sdice to the blockchain wallets
Apr 12 00:08:24 <evoorhees>	lol
Apr 12 00:08:29 <evoorhees>	tell me how I "sucked out money"
Apr 12 00:08:33 <tiberiusiv>	supply creates the demand
Apr 12 00:08:40 <tiberiusiv>	by offering the addiction
Apr 12 00:08:43 <dub>	evoorhees: when someone who holds an artificially large amount of this "valuable" "item" takes a giant shit on the market by "releasing" fuckloads more of them those holding the existing ones lose
Apr 12 00:08:49 <evoorhees>	by making a gambling site that people voluntarily use and that all the rules of which are posted?
Apr 12 00:08:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i win!
Apr 12 00:08:52 <taub>	he's making the blockchain long, but what else are you on about dub
Apr 12 00:09:03 <dub>	evoorhees: pretendign not to understand this doesnt take away from its reality
Apr 12 00:09:14 <evoorhees>	how do I hold an artificially large amount of shares?
Apr 12 00:09:18 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: you supplying a product that is of no real value to anyone but yourself and knowing its highly addicting
Apr 12 00:09:23 <error4733>	+1 to remove S.Dice from blockchain
Apr 12 00:09:33 <ThickAsThieves>	dub is mad because of when evoorhees released 3m more shares
Apr 12 00:09:35 <ezdiy>	dub: no, thats how capital markets work, dummy.
Apr 12 00:09:40 <ThickAsThieves>	a couple mos ago
Apr 12 00:09:44 <ezdiy>	dont invest on speculation value alone (!)
Apr 12 00:09:46 <ChaangNoi>	why is AM going down so much? dividends were awesome this week
Apr 12 00:09:54 <tiberiusiv>	dub: to be fair to evorhees the price didnt drop because of his supply
Apr 12 00:09:54 <error4733>	its like a gamble option on a bank account...
Apr 12 00:10:00 <tiberiusiv>	it fell because of btc appreciation
Apr 12 00:10:07 <ThickAsThieves>	Chaang, cux people wanted to "cash" out
Apr 12 00:10:12 <tiberiusiv>	the price actually increased in terms of purchasing power
Apr 12 00:10:12 <evoorhees>	dub let's observe something here....
Apr 12 00:10:13 <ThickAsThieves>	cuz*
Apr 12 00:10:15 <dub>	it dropped because there is suddenly a fear of more profit taking by the issuer
Apr 12 00:10:17 <mjr___>	hmmm am down you say
Apr 12 00:10:22 <evoorhees>	original shares were sold around .0035 btc
Apr 12 00:10:33 <evoorhees>	then people big up the aftermarket shares into the low .0070s
Apr 12 00:10:35 <tiberiusiv>	dub: no it dropped because bitcoin denominated revenues decline as bitcoin value increases
Apr 12 00:10:41 <evoorhees>	then I sold some more around .005
Apr 12 00:10:52 <ThickAsThieves>	.0044 and .055 i believe
Apr 12 00:11:00 <evoorhees>	avg was .005
Apr 12 00:11:02 <mjr___>	dub: also...if you buy at .0027 (undervalued) your ROI based on dividends (the reason you hold S.DICE) is going to be much better
Apr 12 00:11:03 <ThickAsThieves>	then was it .06?
Apr 12 00:11:06 <ThickAsThieves>	006
Apr 12 00:11:08 <evoorhees>	.0044, .005, and .0059 I think
Apr 12 00:11:12 <evoorhees>	doesn't matter
Apr 12 00:11:17 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: the fact is youve been collaborating with your pals at bitinstant and blockchain to lure people into gambling addictions
Apr 12 00:11:23 <evoorhees>	lol
Apr 12 00:11:27 <tiberiusiv>	but as long as its voluntary thats ok with the libertarians
Apr 12 00:11:39 <evoorhees>	so tiberius you think it's wrong to make a product that some people get addicted to?
Apr 12 00:11:46 <ThickAsThieves>	if its any consolation, i enoyed the tranches
Apr 12 00:11:48 <mjr___>	they are one of the few companies that actually has "earnings" that you can look at to figure out a decent valuation
Apr 12 00:11:55 <dub>	mjr___: except with the risk of further 'share releases', why would I want to buy more?
Apr 12 00:11:58 <tiberiusiv>	knowing that it causes substantial damage to people yes it is wrong evorhees
Apr 12 00:12:00 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm way more concerned about more excposure for sdice
Apr 12 00:12:00 <KRS1>	sup mjr
Apr 12 00:12:08 <mjr___>	KRS1: sup
Apr 12 00:12:10 <evoorhees>	is it wrong to sell cars?
Apr 12 00:12:19 <tiberiusiv>	now your sitting on a caribean island sipping on cocktails, while thousands are broke.
Apr 12 00:12:21 <ezdiy>	not if you dont pay taxes.
Apr 12 00:12:22 <mjr___>	dub: i get it...but what is the point of owning unsellable shares?
Apr 12 00:12:26 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont care about value of sdice shares if revenue grows
Apr 12 00:12:33 <ThickAsThieves>	but both are hurting
Apr 12 00:12:35 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: a car has a utility, sdice has no utility
Apr 12 00:12:39 <dub>	mjr___: exactly
Apr 12 00:12:41 <evoorhees>	says you?
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Apr 12 00:12:42 <mjr___>	one bad month...
Apr 12 00:12:45 <ChaangNoi>	sdice is entertianment
Apr 12 00:12:45 <mjr___>	but still up
Apr 12 00:12:47 <ThickAsThieves>	says math
Apr 12 00:12:49 <dub>	mjr___: only 10 minutes prior to that they were not unsellable
Apr 12 00:12:51 <evoorhees>	so tiberius is the judge of utility huh?
Apr 12 00:12:51 <ThickAsThieves>	not my fault
Apr 12 00:12:53 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: you create a demand
Apr 12 00:12:58 <evoorhees>	so did henry ford
Apr 12 00:13:01 <ezdiy>	ChaangNoi: heavily taed one :(
Apr 12 00:13:03 <taub>	sdice has utility, anonymizes cash flow
Apr 12 00:13:04 <mjr___>	they aren't unsellable now
Apr 12 00:13:07 <tiberiusiv>	except your product damages peoples lives
Apr 12 00:13:07 <dub>	mjr___: it took essentially an unannounced share split
Apr 12 00:13:10 <evoorhees>	nobody died in auto accidents before his terrible project
Apr 12 00:13:10 <ThickAsThieves>	evoorhees can you please ognore tiberius
Apr 12 00:13:14 <tiberiusiv>	henry ford added wealth
Apr 12 00:13:16 <Bugpowder>	it does not anonymize cash flow
Apr 12 00:13:16 <ThickAsThieves>	ignore*
Apr 12 00:13:18 <tiberiusiv>	you merely transfer it
Apr 12 00:13:21 <mjr___>	evoorhees: yes please
Apr 12 00:13:25 <mjr___>	all of us only see half the convo
Apr 12 00:13:29 <dub>	to take them from being a dubioues but somewhat profitable share to a piece of shit
Apr 12 00:13:32 <mjr___>	because the other half is retarded
Apr 12 00:13:33 <taub>	k
Apr 12 00:13:42 <mjr___>	.0027 is a GREAT price
Apr 12 00:13:43 <taub>	yea if the winnings come back to the sender...
Apr 12 00:13:45 <tiberiusiv>	dub: the share price tanked because of BTC price appreciation.
Apr 12 00:13:50 <evoorhees>	I'm interested in the convo with tiberius, sorry if you guys can't see his text
Apr 12 00:13:56 <tiberiusiv>	it had nothing to do with evorhees dub
Apr 12 00:13:57 <dub>	tiberiusiv: no it tanked because he dumped 3mn at market
Apr 12 00:14:00 <mjr___>	like saying "bitcoin was great when it was 200+, but i don't want to buy now that it is cheap"
Apr 12 00:14:05 <tiberiusiv>	dub: no you are wrong.
Apr 12 00:14:07 <ThickAsThieves>	erik has to learn about tib for himself
Apr 12 00:14:10 <ChaangNoi>	you must be new here if you are intrested in tiberslavs trolling:)
Apr 12 00:14:10 <dub>	tiberiusiv: this was before your time, shh
Apr 12 00:14:11 <ThickAsThieves>	happened to all of us
Apr 12 00:14:11 <mjr___>	first off, the float is ridiculously tiny
Apr 12 00:14:17 <evoorhees>	hehehe
Apr 12 00:14:28 <tiberiusiv>	evorhees did not "tank" his shares dub
Apr 12 00:14:35 <benkay>	i too am interested in this exchange
Apr 12 00:14:36 <mjr___>	yes, its like a siren song, just tie yourself to the mast
Apr 12 00:14:39 <tiberiusiv>	sdice revenues decline as the price increases
Apr 12 00:14:48 <benkay>	tiberiusiv's claims must be addressed
Apr 12 00:14:52 <tiberiusiv>	thats why the shares are negatively correlated
Apr 12 00:15:06 <evoorhees>	tiberius is saying it's wrong to make a gambling site, because some people get addicted
Apr 12 00:15:08 <tiberiusiv>	the shares increased in purchasing power. just not in NOMINAL bitcoin price
Apr 12 00:15:15 <ThickAsThieves>	thats ridic
Apr 12 00:15:23 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: the facts are you encouraged the addiction.
Apr 12 00:15:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 56 @ 0.00318 = 0.1781 BTC [+]
Apr 12 00:15:26 <mjr___>	it is so tempting to engage, but he will 1. make a false point, 2. call you poor for disagreeing with him 3. once that point is unsalvageable, switch to next straw man
Apr 12 00:15:29 <ThickAsThieves>	even jesus was a gambling man
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Apr 12 00:15:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 70 @ 0.00319 = 0.2233 BTC [+]
Apr 12 00:15:39 <tiberiusiv>	by providing the cashier service + advertising it on the most known wallet blockchain.info
Apr 12 00:15:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 34 @ 0.00319 = 0.1085 BTC [+]
Apr 12 00:15:43 <evoorhees>	he is saying I encouraged the addiction
Apr 12 00:15:45 <mjr___>	4. then he rotates, eventually ending up where he started
Apr 12 00:15:57 <ThickAsThieves>	you cant win against tib
Apr 12 00:16:00 <mjr___>	yep
Apr 12 00:16:00 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: 2) sdice adds no wealth its nothing more then a wealth transfer mechanism
Apr 12 00:16:05 <ThickAsThieves>	he keeps moving the argument
Apr 12 00:16:08 <evoorhees>	tiberius - is it immoral to own a factory that sells playing cards?
Apr 12 00:16:08 <mjr___>	his trollishness has approached the master level
Apr 12 00:16:15 <mjr___>	LOL
Apr 12 00:16:24 <ThickAsThieves>	black belt troll
Apr 12 00:16:28 <mjr___>	you will prove him wrong, he will call you poor, you will move to next topic
Apr 12 00:16:29 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees at least the factory is producing something
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Apr 12 00:16:37 <benkay>	but valid point, wealth should be transferred from the dumb.
Apr 12 00:16:40 <mjr___>	45 minutes from now, you will be back on gambling addiction
Apr 12 00:16:42 <tiberiusiv>	sdice produces nothing but misery for 99%
Apr 12 00:16:45 <evoorhees>	oh so its' okay because the factory is producing something?
Apr 12 00:16:45 <benkay>	i support gambling machines for that reason
Apr 12 00:16:48 <benkay>	f the 99
Apr 12 00:16:50 <mjr___>	by that time new people joined, and he extracts more lolz
Apr 12 00:17:01 <ThickAsThieves>	98.2% i believe ;)
Apr 12 00:17:08 <dub>	mjr___: don't worry evoorhees is enjoying the distraction from a real question
Apr 12 00:17:11 <mjr___>	98.1%
Apr 12 00:17:13 <ChaangNo_>	free markets hurt some people, lets end it! no trade!
Apr 12 00:17:13 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: you are creating demand through supplying a product that causes major damage to most of its participants
Apr 12 00:17:13 <error4733>	let's gambler gamble, it's called natural selection
Apr 12 00:17:14 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 12 00:17:15 <benkay>	whatever it is i ain't planna be innit, yahmean
Apr 12 00:17:22 <evoorhees>	sorry dub I can't talk to two people at once, happy to talk to you soon also
Apr 12 00:17:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00319 = 0.0064 BTC [+]
Apr 12 00:17:40 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees and the worst part about it is the dishonest ways you advertise it.
Apr 12 00:17:42 <ThickAsThieves>	sorry dub youre trolling is inferior to tib's wait in line
Apr 12 00:17:42 <dub>	if ther eis ever a serious libertard party evoorhees should head it up
Apr 12 00:17:51 <tiberiusiv>	you included it on the most popular online wallet
Apr 12 00:17:56 <mjr___>	dub: look at it this way...there was 10% out there, what if 3% of those decided to dump at once?
Apr 12 00:17:57 <tiberiusiv>	and also act as cashier service
Apr 12 00:18:03 <mjr___>	same difference
Apr 12 00:18:09 <evoorhees>	cashier service?
Apr 12 00:18:11 <evoorhees>	what do you mean?
Apr 12 00:18:14 <tiberiusiv>	yes bitinstant
Apr 12 00:18:20 <tiberiusiv>	nothing more then a cash in service for sdice
Apr 12 00:18:22 <evoorhees>	lol
Apr 12 00:18:30 <evoorhees>	bitinstant is a cash service for s.dice huh?
Apr 12 00:18:30 <mjr___>	oh, libertarian party announced they are accepting bitcoins
Apr 12 00:18:33 <dub>	mjr___: except soemone would have to relinquish a 3% stake
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Apr 12 00:18:35 <taub>	if he wants to sell his stock he can sell his stock
Apr 12 00:18:44 <taub>	who cares
Apr 12 00:18:45 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoin is nothing more than a profit instrument for bitinstant, fucking scammers
Apr 12 00:18:45 <evoorhees>	so bitcoin itself must just be a huge system built for s.dice
Apr 12 00:18:48 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: bitinstant should also be called bitwhenever since the service absolutely sucks
Apr 12 00:18:49 <mjr___>	LOL, he switched that argument seemingly very subtly
Apr 12 00:19:01 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees no. dont change semantics
Apr 12 00:19:10 <ThickAsThieves>	thats his job ^
Apr 12 00:19:13 <mjr___>	but you are now being drawn down the path of straw man #2
Apr 12 00:19:20 <tiberiusiv>	you are a member of bitinstant and sdice
Apr 12 00:19:34 <tiberiusiv>	and your pal includes your service in the most popular online wallet blockchain.info
Apr 12 00:19:38 <ThickAsThieves>	erik are you a cylon or not?!
Apr 12 00:19:46 <tiberiusiv>	hence why you have to be outside of the US
Apr 12 00:19:47 <ThickAsThieves>	do you even know?!?!?
Apr 12 00:19:55 <mjr___>	i'm so familiar with "it's all a conspiracy, evoorhees is bitinstant, s.dice and coinapult, QED Scam"
Apr 12 00:20:03 <dub>	mjr___: the market would have bought up a 3% stake that didnt have a further 90% behind it to be 'released' at random
Apr 12 00:20:23 <evoorhees>	tiberius - actually I hired satoshi nakamoto to build Bitcoin so that I could run my casino
Apr 12 00:20:26 <mjr___>	dub: again, this is a dividend bearing stock in an illiquid market
Apr 12 00:20:30 <dub>	anyway im not actually butthurt about that
Apr 12 00:20:40 <ThickAsThieves>	thats why its based in ireland
Apr 12 00:20:47 <ThickAsThieves>	cuz satoshit is that irish math guy
Apr 12 00:20:51 <mjr___>	you should be holding it for the long term gains from earnings
Apr 12 00:20:55 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves: he has no gambling license from ireland
Apr 12 00:21:00 <mjr___>	not appreciation (though that may happen)
Apr 12 00:21:11 <error4733>	why he need it ?
Apr 12 00:21:13 <evoorhees>	also tiberius - if you own any bitcoin, you are keeping the value above what it would otherwise be, thereby you are an enabler of my casino, so thank you
Apr 12 00:21:13 <dub>	its evoorhees reaction of 'oops' and everyones continued tolerance of him
Apr 12 00:21:18 <ThickAsThieves>	he deals in mario coins, there's a license for that?
Apr 12 00:21:26 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: that makes no sense
Apr 12 00:21:38 <error4733>	gambling bitcoin is like gambling wow gold, no legal tenders,
Apr 12 00:21:49 <tiberiusiv>	not when you operate the cash in service
Apr 12 00:21:58 <tiberiusiv>	and blatantly lure players in through the wallet service
Apr 12 00:21:58 <mjr___>	i personally thought everyone overreacted severely
Apr 12 00:22:04 <evoorhees>	tiberius want me to prove part of your little narrative wrong?
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Apr 12 00:22:10 <tiberiusiv>	why is sdice advertised on blockchain.info?
Apr 12 00:22:12 <error4733>	where do you see cash in S.Dcice ?
Apr 12 00:22:13 <dub>	its a calssic bitcoin problem really, same reason we are stuck with gox
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Apr 12 00:22:25 <InstantBTC>	error4733 that reminds me of the reddit post I saw about how bitcoins are like beany-babies
Apr 12 00:22:31 <mjr___>	especially because it wasn't him necessarily, there are other investors...and people who provide seed funding sometimes need exit strategies
Apr 12 00:22:34 <tiberiusiv>	error4733: i can go to a US walmart and cash into satoshi dice using evorhees service "bitinstant"
Apr 12 00:22:47 <evoorhees>	tiberius - news for you bud, I don't work for bitinstant
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Apr 12 00:22:54 <tiberiusiv>	since when?
Apr 12 00:23:01 <mjr___>	tiberiusiv: mind = blown
Apr 12 00:23:06 <evoorhees>	figure it out genius ;)
Apr 12 00:23:11 <ThickAsThieves>	pprprrsccchhssssshhhh
Apr 12 00:23:12 <tiberiusiv>	since you fled the US.
Apr 12 00:23:15 <evoorhees>	nope
Apr 12 00:23:18 <tiberiusiv>	the papertrail still remains evorhees
Apr 12 00:23:26 <evoorhees>	and I didn't "flee"
Apr 12 00:23:29 <mjr___>	ok fine you guys suckered me back in to listening to him
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Apr 12 00:23:43 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.linkedin.com/pub/erik-voorhees/b/804/385
Apr 12 00:23:48 <tiberiusiv>	Director of Marketing and Communications at BitInstant
Apr 12 00:23:50 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 12 00:23:57 <ThickAsThieves>	oh shnap!
Apr 12 00:24:03 <evoorhees>	ooops you caught me, I haven't updated my linkedin page!
Apr 12 00:24:12 <mjr___>	hahaha
Apr 12 00:24:14 <maximian>	The part that pissed me off about the s.dice share dump wasn't the dump itself, but the irrationally low price. That fucked up the upward trend, and it never recovered.
Apr 12 00:24:19 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees the fact is a US prosecutor would need 2 hours to put a case against you together
Apr 12 00:24:26 <evoorhees>	the "reward trend"?
Apr 12 00:24:35 <Bugpowder>	maximian: the offering price is not what caused the crash
Apr 12 00:24:37 <ThickAsThieves>	max, you assume that a higher price wouldnt have pushed shares down
Apr 12 00:24:47 <Bugpowder>	it was the whale disappearence
Apr 12 00:24:49 <mjr___>	maximian: i totally agree that the trend is bad, BUT that is more of a function of retarded investors (not you, just in general) than the stock
Apr 12 00:25:00 <maximian>	bugpowder in the long run perhaps
Apr 12 00:25:00 <tiberiusiv>	maximiam how many times are you going to spew that myth.
Apr 12 00:25:06 <Bugpowder>	in the short run
Apr 12 00:25:08 <maximian>	but for those few weeks after the dump, confidence was lost
Apr 12 00:25:09 <Bugpowder>	it was
Apr 12 00:25:13 <evoorhees>	tiberius... I just told you one fact that you were wrong about. Do you ever wonder what other facts you may be wrong about?
Apr 12 00:25:14 <ThickAsThieves>	you guys are wasting good time to be reasonable with your CEP
Apr 12 00:25:15 <ThickAsThieves>	CEO*
Apr 12 00:25:18 <ezdiy>	$75
Apr 12 00:25:18 <tiberiusiv>	the stock price went down because BTC appreciated thereby reducing SDICE revenues nominally
Apr 12 00:25:20 <ThickAsThieves>	stop being little bitches
Apr 12 00:25:23 <ezdiy>	props to anyone buying at $91 :)
Apr 12 00:25:26 <error4733>	maximian x20 is a long run
Apr 12 00:25:31 <ThickAsThieves>	and try some civil discourse
Apr 12 00:25:33 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees oh now you dont work for bitinstant after realizing the liability ?
Apr 12 00:25:37 <Bugpowder>	confidence was lost because I posted the list of whale addresses and added up that 95% of the coins were spent
Apr 12 00:25:38 <mjr___>	maximian: the main problem is when people can't figure out a stock is worth the most the day BEFORE dividends, not the day AFTER...shows you what you are dealing with
Apr 12 00:25:41 <evoorhees>	lol tiberius
Apr 12 00:25:52 <mjr___>	tourists who want to get whatever is "hot"...mircea had a great piece on this
Apr 12 00:25:54 <evoorhees>	you're saying I left BitInstant due to "liability" huh?
Apr 12 00:26:12 <ThickAsThieves>	evoorhees, specifically, why do you hold back on "unleashing" sdice.com?
Apr 12 00:26:14 <mjr___>	there is classic tib
Apr 12 00:26:17 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees well why would you publically stay on board a casino cash in service while owning the casino as well?
Apr 12 00:26:29 <maximian>	I was sore about it because I was planning to unload some shares at around 0.007
Apr 12 00:26:32 <maximian>	and then poof
Apr 12 00:26:33 <tiberiusiv>	in a unfriendly jurisdiction(US)
Apr 12 00:26:46 <mjr___>	you showed him you don't work at bitinstant...so you have a liability now...that is like troll judo right there
Apr 12 00:26:50 <tiberiusiv>	maximian: lol thats just ridiculous
Apr 12 00:27:05 <ezdiy>	>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 04:26:01 UTC <<<
Apr 12 00:27:06 <ezdiy>	mmm
Apr 12 00:27:08 <ezdiy>	*suspicious*
Apr 12 00:27:10 <maximian>	bugpowder I think without the dump, the inevitable price decline would have been more orderly
Apr 12 00:27:11 <tiberiusiv>	maximian: your angry becuase you couldnt find a greater fool to overpay you for stock?
Apr 12 00:27:13 <ezdiy>	rumour mills at full speed
Apr 12 00:27:26 <ThickAsThieves>	evoorhees, specifically, why do you hold back on "unleashing" sdice.com?
Apr 12 00:27:31 <Bugpowder>	it took over a month after the offering to dump
Apr 12 00:27:37 <Bugpowder>	and it was a smooth decline
Apr 12 00:27:38 <mjr___>	look, their projected ROI at the current price is ridiculously high
Apr 12 00:27:39 <Bugpowder>	reall
Apr 12 00:27:42 <evoorhees>	what do you mean "unleashing"?
Apr 12 00:27:42 <tiberiusiv>	maximian: no it wouldnt have. the price decline occured because of rampant BTC price increase
Apr 12 00:27:43 <Bugpowder>	look at the chart
Apr 12 00:27:53 <ThickAsThieves>	you have said a number of times
Apr 12 00:28:00 <ThickAsThieves>	that you dont wanna put it out there yet
Apr 12 00:28:02 <tiberiusiv>	maximian you really shouldnt be getting out of bed in the morning
Apr 12 00:28:09 <ThickAsThieves>	like advertise or develop or whatever it is
Apr 12 00:28:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.735 BTC [+]
Apr 12 00:28:19 <maximian>	well the bids really dried up after the dump - I had a really tough time selling
Apr 12 00:28:20 <evoorhees>	why do you assume I'm not developing?
Apr 12 00:28:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i used to assume it was legal reasons
Apr 12 00:28:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
Apr 12 00:28:28 <tiberiusiv>	thickashiteves: be quiet. voorhees cleverly advertising sdice on the most popular wallet.
Apr 12 00:28:38 <tiberiusiv>	luring new gamblers in
Apr 12 00:28:42 <ThickAsThieves>	these are his words
Apr 12 00:28:46 <ThickAsThieves>	not mine
Apr 12 00:28:52 <ThickAsThieves>	even recently
Apr 12 00:29:01 <tiberiusiv>	the question is why is sdice on blockchain?
Apr 12 00:29:11 <ThickAsThieves>	no it isnt shut up
Apr 12 00:29:14 <evoorhees>	it must be a conspiracy tiberius
Apr 12 00:29:17 <Bugpowder>	to drive users?
Apr 12 00:29:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75929 BTC [+]
Apr 12 00:29:23 <tiberiusiv>	duh
Apr 12 00:29:24 <evoorhees>	imagine how much I bribe Ben!
Apr 12 00:29:25 <maximian>	anyway, it's still a good asset in my opinion
Apr 12 00:29:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7593 BTC [+]
Apr 12 00:29:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7594 = 3.0376 BTC [+]
Apr 12 00:29:39 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: ben? the scumbag who released peoples data in the public. another libertarian
Apr 12 00:29:48 <tiberiusiv>	probably didnt cost you much
Apr 12 00:29:52 <evoorhees>	woah buddy
Apr 12 00:30:01 <evoorhees>	he didn't realease shit
Apr 12 00:30:02 <ezdiy>	maximian: inb4 bitvegas IPO :)
Apr 12 00:30:09 <ezdiy>	imagine all the autistic turds gambling
Apr 12 00:30:13 <tiberiusiv>	whoever did from the "blockchain" crew
Apr 12 00:30:14 <ezdiy>	thats whole new paradigm
Apr 12 00:30:34 <evoorhees>	the guy whose data got leaked is the one who leaked it
Apr 12 00:30:40 <evoorhees>	why did so many people miss that detail?
Apr 12 00:30:51 <evoorhees>	maybe because it didn't fit the narrative they wanted to build
Apr 12 00:30:59 <mjr___>	^^this
Apr 12 00:30:59 <tiberiusiv>	the bitcoinstore thing
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Apr 12 00:31:32 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees the point is your all a bunch of shady operators with 0 principles or values, hence the level of shady behaviour
Apr 12 00:31:50 <tiberiusiv>	from your stock scams to encouraging idiot students to gamble away tuitions
Apr 12 00:31:58 <ThickAsThieves>	evoorhees, here is an example of what i mean "While I have increased advertising for SD in the last couple weeks, I am also wary of making the site too high profile too soon. Read into that what you will, but it's done with purpose."
Apr 12 00:32:04 <tiberiusiv>	dont act like some legit businessman
Apr 12 00:32:08 <tiberiusiv>	out to take down the man
Apr 12 00:32:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont wanna read into it
Apr 12 00:32:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i;d rather you just clarify
Apr 12 00:32:32 <evoorhees>	thickasthieves - development is happening
Apr 12 00:32:39 <evoorhees>	had to get some ducks in a row first
Apr 12 00:32:49 <evoorhees>	sorry I can't give more details then that
Apr 12 00:32:54 <evoorhees>	(not yet anyway)
Apr 12 00:32:55 <ThickAsThieves>	word
Apr 12 00:33:03 <evoorhees>	two ducks, mainly
Apr 12 00:33:08 <ThickAsThieves>	any idea when things will start to drip
Apr 12 00:33:08 <evoorhees>	legal and staff
Apr 12 00:33:22 <tiberiusiv>	didnt you steal enough?
Apr 12 00:33:38 <evoorhees>	oh now I stole, tiberius? :)
Apr 12 00:33:44 <tiberiusiv>	whats the difference
Apr 12 00:33:58 <Bugpowder>	below 70
Apr 12 00:33:59 <evoorhees>	what's the difference between theft and making a gambling site?
Apr 12 00:33:59 <ThickAsThieves>	one thing is stealing and the other isn't
Apr 12 00:34:00 <Bugpowder>	noice
Apr 12 00:34:01 <evoorhees>	quite a bit
Apr 12 00:34:05 <error4733>	gambling problem tiberius ?
Apr 12 00:34:07 <tiberiusiv>	you implant addicting vices to idiots
Apr 12 00:34:19 <evoorhees>	I implant them?
Apr 12 00:34:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
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Apr 12 00:34:38 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees as far as im concerned nothing, and if at least sdice was a pleasure to look at it would be one thing
Apr 12 00:34:55 <tiberiusiv>	but its nothing more then a wealth transfer mechanism to suck $ out of broke people i
Apr 12 00:34:58 <evoorhees>	tiberius - you seem to be under the assumption that everyone running around has no self control, and anyone who makes something with which those people may harm themselves is morally liable for their ineptness
Apr 12 00:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00068891 = 7.3713 BTC [-]
Apr 12 00:35:03 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah, you cut of the pic right at the girls boobs, wtf
Apr 12 00:35:04 <evoorhees>	it's an interesting moral supposition
Apr 12 00:35:14 <ThickAsThieves>	off*
Apr 12 00:35:19 <ezdiy>	yet common one under english law :(
Apr 12 00:35:21 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: when your encouraging wreckless behavior
Apr 12 00:35:26 <copumpkin>	oh I thought evoorhees was talking to himself
Apr 12 00:36:01 <evoorhees>	but tiberius you said it's okay to encourage wreckless behavior as long as your producing something
Apr 12 00:36:03 *	guruvan too
Apr 12 00:36:16 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: i said at least theres something out of it, i didnt say its ok
Apr 12 00:36:25 <evoorhees>	so it's wrong then?
Apr 12 00:36:29 <tiberiusiv>	you are doing nothing but sucking $ out of gullible idiots
Apr 12 00:36:34 <evoorhees>	to own a playing card factory?
Apr 12 00:36:35 <evoorhees>	it's not okay?
Apr 12 00:36:43 <tiberiusiv>	theres nothign wrong with it
Apr 12 00:36:45 <Bugpowder>	I lost 26 BTC to satoshi dice
Apr 12 00:36:52 <Bugpowder>	I know math
Apr 12 00:36:58 <tiberiusiv>	a card playing factory doesnt encourage idiots to bleed their $
Apr 12 00:37:01 <tiberiusiv>	you do.
Apr 12 00:37:02 <evoorhees>	answer the question bro - is it wrong or not wrong to own a playing card factory?
Apr 12 00:37:07 <tiberiusiv>	no its not.
Apr 12 00:37:12 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 12 00:37:12 <tiberiusiv>	cards are not illegal
Apr 12 00:37:16 <tiberiusiv>	what you do is for a reason
Apr 12 00:37:19 <evoorhees>	ohhhhhhhhhhh
Apr 12 00:37:25 <evoorhees>	as long as it's legal, then you're fine with it?
Apr 12 00:37:30 <tiberiusiv>	playing cards are like a gun
Apr 12 00:37:37 <tiberiusiv>	depends on what you are doing
Apr 12 00:37:47 <tiberiusiv>	your defense is none existant
Apr 12 00:38:05 <tiberiusiv>	you actively encourage people by promising them ridiculous rewards to "gamble" on your site
Apr 12 00:38:08 <Bugpowder>	guns are good
Apr 12 00:38:11 <tiberiusiv>	and you do it in very dishonest ways
Apr 12 00:38:14 <Bugpowder>	s.dice is baaaad
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Apr 12 00:38:18 <evoorhees>	I don't promise anyone rediculous rewards, what are you talking about?
Apr 12 00:38:26 <tiberiusiv>	by linking your gambling site to a popular wallet service
Apr 12 00:38:35 <evoorhees>	I say, "if you send bitcoins here, you have X chance of winning Y"
Apr 12 00:38:35 <tiberiusiv>	where bitcoin newcomers who dont even have a clue log onto
Apr 12 00:38:37 <tiberiusiv>	and lose $ too
Apr 12 00:38:43 <Bugpowder>	jesus christ man
Apr 12 00:38:47 <Bugpowder>	its just satoshi dice
Apr 12 00:38:53 <Bugpowder>	people are adults
Apr 12 00:38:58 <benkay>	also welcome to bitcoin
Apr 12 00:39:00 <Bugpowder>	free will
Apr 12 00:39:03 <tiberiusiv>	not hte majority who play on sdice
Apr 12 00:39:04 <benkay>	can someone take your money?
Apr 12 00:39:07 <tiberiusiv>	its all kids from school
Apr 12 00:39:07 <benkay>	oops. they did.
Apr 12 00:39:15 <Bugpowder>	then they learn a valuable lesson
Apr 12 00:39:16 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder you dont even know who plays on sdice.
Apr 12 00:39:17 <evoorhees>	the majority of SD players are kids from school?
Apr 12 00:39:21 <evoorhees>	got a source for that?
Apr 12 00:39:26 <benkay>	kids these days need lessons in trust.
Apr 12 00:39:28 <tiberiusiv>	its broke tuition people
Apr 12 00:39:30 <Bugpowder>	before they make lots of money
Apr 12 00:39:40 <tiberiusiv>	sdice is nothing more then a wealth transfer service
Apr 12 00:39:40 <evoorhees>	why do you think it's okay to just make up facts?
Apr 12 00:39:41 <Bugpowder>	much better to lose your money young than to lose it old
Apr 12 00:39:41 <tiberiusiv>	it adds 0.
Apr 12 00:39:44 <benkay>	tuition in devaluing dollars
Apr 12 00:39:50 <error4733>	tiberius, is soo obv you live in US
Apr 12 00:40:04 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv knows that's the key to pissing people off, distorting facts.
Apr 12 00:40:05 <evoorhees>	tiberius - you realize that some people enjoy gambling for entertainment purposes, right? or do you not believe that?
Apr 12 00:40:11 <benkay>	i'm a little disappointed by the fallback to "save teh kids"
Apr 12 00:40:13 <Bugpowder>	s dice is fun
Apr 12 00:40:20 <ThickAsThieves>	^
Apr 12 00:40:33 <tiberiusiv>	the point is that, sdice wouldnt be as damaging if the owner wasnt also promoting methods to cash into it and blatantly advertising it on a newbies wallet service.
Apr 12 00:40:42 <tiberiusiv>	no wonder he had to run from US
Apr 12 00:40:45 <ThickAsThieves>	tiberiusiv do you hate kittens?
Apr 12 00:41:02 <tiberiusiv>	and actively engaging in stock scams
Apr 12 00:41:08 <Bugpowder>	coin base is for noobs
Apr 12 00:41:14 <Bugpowder>	blockchain is for proz
Apr 12 00:41:15 <tiberiusiv>	selling overvalued shares to suckers
Apr 12 00:41:18 <benkay>	+1 bugpowder
Apr 12 00:41:33 <benkay>	+tiberiusiv
Apr 12 00:41:40 <Bugpowder>	also 80% of sdice shares were bought by sophisticated investors
Apr 12 00:41:51 <tiberiusiv>	lol mircea and evoorhees?
Apr 12 00:42:00 <Bugpowder>	1 guy bought at least 5 million
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Apr 12 00:42:12 <Bugpowder>	sigh
Apr 12 00:42:20 <Bugpowder>	can't take it
Apr 12 00:42:48 <ThickAsThieves>	this is why we can;t have nice things
Apr 12 00:43:03 <mjr___>	tiberiusiv is off his game...kids should not have come for like an hour i think
Apr 12 00:43:06 <mjr___>	great job evoorhees
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Apr 12 00:43:41 <tiberiusiv>	most of this channel has been milked by both mircea and evorhees yet suffer from stockholm syndrome
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Apr 12 00:44:24 <evoorhees>	tiberius - I'm sorry that you hate everything I'm doing, have built, and represent. Fortunately, I don't force you to use it, buy it, or even talk to me. You can be as angry at me as you want, but really your argument boils down to the fact that you think consenting adults should be controlled by your moral opinions, and I think that's pathetic.
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Apr 12 00:45:44 <error4733>	all those church in US whash brain ! it's freaking me !
Apr 12 00:45:56 <InstantBTC>	lol
Apr 12 00:46:15 <ThickAsThieves>	we arent all jesus lovers
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Apr 12 00:47:06 <ThickAsThieves>	ok gox come back now plz
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Apr 12 00:48:01 <benkay>	;;ticker
Apr 12 00:48:16 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 12 00:48:17 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 109.86
Apr 12 00:48:20 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 12 00:48:29 <benkay>	greeeeat.
Apr 12 00:48:33 <Bugpowder>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 00:48:33 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 00:48:34 <gribble>	109.86
Apr 12 00:48:44 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 12 00:49:59 <ThickAsThieves>	O.USD.C056T has a break even of -2724
Apr 12 00:50:02 <ThickAsThieves>	good deal
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Apr 12 00:52:13 <ThickAsThieves>	best calls have a break even of 208
Apr 12 00:52:18 <ThickAsThieves>	should i risk it?
Apr 12 00:52:19 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 12 00:52:25 <tiberiusiv>	no
Apr 12 00:52:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i know
Apr 12 00:52:40 <ThickAsThieves>	these prices are insuklting
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Apr 12 00:52:52 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: the fact is you dont even know if its adults using your service.
Apr 12 00:53:11 <ThickAsThieves>	give it up tib
Apr 12 00:53:12 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: and you dont represent anything. just another libertard running wild.
Apr 12 00:53:35 <tiberiusiv>	at least remove the SDICE advertising off of the wallet service
Apr 12 00:53:49 <tiberiusiv>	youve sucked enough $ out of people to finance your ayn rand lifestyle for decades
Apr 12 00:54:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 12 00:54:29 <gribble>	65991.4312905
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Apr 12 00:54:39 <ThickAsThieves>	down 2.5th
Apr 12 00:54:45 <dub>	the mighty corolla is back on the road
Apr 12 00:54:46 <ThickAsThieves>	people shut off their GPUs
Apr 12 00:54:47 <InstantBTC>	tiberiusiv. I just don't see the point you're trying to make.
Apr 12 00:54:52 <dub>	new clutch, lighter wallet
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Apr 12 00:55:29 <InstantBTC>	it's a well known fact that gambling is risky and you have a disadvantage
Apr 12 00:55:35 <InstantBTC>	yet people still gamble
Apr 12 00:55:35 <dub>	dumb people are going to throw money away
Apr 12 00:55:46 <dub>	be it gambling, religion, drug addiction
Apr 12 00:55:50 <InstantBTC>	you can't stop them. why does it concern you
Apr 12 00:55:53 <InstantBTC>	dub +1
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Apr 12 00:56:02 <tiberiusiv>	instanbtc: hes actively promoting wreckless behavior and targetting people who arent even aware of what they are doing
Apr 12 00:56:08 <dub>	would the world be a better place without priests, drug dealers and evoorhees? of course it would
Apr 12 00:56:21 <dub>	but some other scumbag would step in and take his place
Apr 12 00:56:24 <InstantBTC>	the website makes it pretty clear that it's a gambling site
Apr 12 00:56:37 <tiberiusiv>	instantbtc: he advertises it on a popular wallet service as well.
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Apr 12 00:56:44 <dub>	there endeth the trollsermon
Apr 12 00:57:00 <InstantBTC>	but if you click the advertisement. it takes you to the website
Apr 12 00:57:09 <InstantBTC>	and you can see pretty clearly
Apr 12 00:57:13 <dub>	derka derka mohammed jihad
Apr 12 00:57:21 <InstantBTC>	it's a gambling site
Apr 12 00:57:29 <tiberiusiv>	instantbtc: there is nothing on his website that states its a rampant gambling site.
Apr 12 00:57:44 <tiberiusiv>	he targets new BTC users
Apr 12 00:57:59 <InstantBTC>	I'm going to take quotes off the front page
Apr 12 00:58:06 <InstantBTC>	Win massive amount
Apr 12 00:58:06 <InstantBTC>	 of bitcoins!
Apr 12 00:58:13 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees is the guy who would euthanize his own mother just to save on inheritence taxes
Apr 12 00:58:15 <InstantBTC>	 					 						STEP 1 						Send BTC to an address below to place a bet (must be between the max and min). 					 					 						STEP 2 						The Ghost of Satoshi will roll the dice and pick a Lucky Number! 					 					 						STEP 3 						You win if Lucky Number is less than the number you chose. 					 				
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Apr 12 00:58:23 <InstantBTC>	Bet Counter
Apr 12 00:58:32 <tiberiusiv>	yea instantbtc keep going.
Apr 12 00:58:37 <InstantBTC>	and last but certainly not least
Apr 12 00:58:38 <InstantBTC>	SatoshiDice is the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe.
Apr 12 00:58:55 <tiberiusiv>	its misleading and should not be advertised on a wallet service
Apr 12 00:58:59 <InstantBTC>	okay
Apr 12 00:59:01 <InstantBTC>	I'm done
Apr 12 00:59:09 <tiberiusiv>	so go back to your corner and stfu.
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Apr 12 00:59:36 <evoorhees>	classy
Apr 12 00:59:37 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees could have advertisied all sorts of ways but he chose the most sneaky and dishonest method
Apr 12 01:00:06 <InstantBTC>	tiberiusiv, I've got a question for you. did you lose a lot of money on satoshidice or something?
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Apr 12 01:00:11 <cole_albon>	tiberiusiv: are you aware that you can double your money 49 out of 100 times with Ripple? rEgXAZiBKcLPo64wRd5JaASpZ8mGidfZiX
Apr 12 01:00:12 <tiberiusiv>	slipping it in as a "game" on a wallet service that newbies use
Apr 12 01:00:21 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 12 01:00:22 <Namworld>	;;later tell mircea_popescu There's an issue with Option bot. Some calls are priced over 1 BTC each. They'll be in the money when prices are negative...
Apr 12 01:00:23 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Apr 12 01:00:51 <tiberiusiv>	instantbtc: no i never even played
Apr 12 01:00:57 <InstantBTC>	why not?
Apr 12 01:01:07 <tiberiusiv>	rather throw darts against the wall
Apr 12 01:01:12 <tiberiusiv>	its not even exciting to look at
Apr 12 01:01:15 <benkay>	rather nail a broad
Apr 12 01:01:28 <InstantBTC>	I rest my case then.
Apr 12 01:01:33 <benkay>	why the fuck would anyone ever gamble ever.
Apr 12 01:01:37 <InstantBTC>	done for real now
Apr 12 01:01:42 <evoorhees>	benkay - because it's fun
Apr 12 01:01:46 <evoorhees>	I love gambling
Apr 12 01:01:48 <benkay>	nevermind.
Apr 12 01:01:52 <dub>	because they are stupid
Apr 12 01:02:01 <benkay>	buying dopamine hits
Apr 12 01:02:02 <tiberiusiv>	when people see that bitcoin crowd is all libertarian athiest scum, it amazes me that they wonder why the scam rate is so high
Apr 12 01:02:11 <evoorhees>	Consider the following:
Apr 12 01:02:13 <dub>	LOL
Apr 12 01:02:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
Apr 12 01:02:19 <dub>	I love the atheist addition to that
Apr 12 01:02:27 <evoorhees>	I can go see a movie, pay $12, and leave with nothing but the entertainment
Apr 12 01:02:27 <tiberiusiv>	and why the only functioning business's involve drugs and gambling
Apr 12 01:02:29 <dub>	YOU ARE ALL EVILDOOERS
Apr 12 01:02:44 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees your example once again is flawed.
Apr 12 01:02:46 <InstantBTC>	I like you dub
Apr 12 01:02:46 <evoorhees>	or, I can go gamble $12, and leave with the entertainment and maybe even more money
Apr 12 01:02:50 <tiberiusiv>	the movie was created by someone
Apr 12 01:02:56 <tiberiusiv>	satoshidice has created nothing yet again.
Apr 12 01:03:00 <ezdiy>	bad example, you pirate the move
Apr 12 01:03:02 <evoorhees>	ahhh right because the casino just appeared out of nowhere
Apr 12 01:03:12 <tiberiusiv>	why do you keep comparing yourself to wealth creating activities?
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Apr 12 01:03:21 <evoorhees>	entertainment is wealth
Apr 12 01:03:22 <tiberiusiv>	you transfer wealth from A to yourself
Apr 12 01:03:30 <tiberiusiv>	satoshidice isnt enterntainment
Apr 12 01:03:34 <evoorhees>	not for you
Apr 12 01:03:38 <benkay>	a buys entertainment as well, tiberiusiv
Apr 12 01:03:38 <tiberiusiv>	its supplying an addiction and actively encouraging it
Apr 12 01:03:40 <evoorhees>	my friends have played
Apr 12 01:03:42 <evoorhees>	they thought it was fun
Apr 12 01:03:43 <evoorhees>	that's entertianment
Apr 12 01:03:47 <InstantBTC>	how do I mute people again?
Apr 12 01:03:48 <evoorhees>	are you telling them they're wrong?
Apr 12 01:03:50 <tiberiusiv>	i doubt any loser on sdice is entertained.
Apr 12 01:03:51 <benkay>	it's just dopamine
Apr 12 01:03:51 <dub>	stop pretending your built anything please erik
Apr 12 01:03:51 <InstantBTC>	I always forget..
Apr 12 01:04:02 <ezdiy>	evoorhees: hookers are entertainment too :)
Apr 12 01:04:02 <tiberiusiv>	haha dub
Apr 12 01:04:06 <InstantBTC>	ah
Apr 12 01:04:07 <evoorhees>	true!
Apr 12 01:04:07 <InstantBTC>	there we go
Apr 12 01:04:11 <dub>	you are (ab)using bitcoin to do your dirtywork
Apr 12 01:04:18 <dub>	you built nothing
Apr 12 01:04:22 <tiberiusiv>	no shit
Apr 12 01:04:25 <ezdiy>	dub: and nobody can stop it, ha!
Apr 12 01:04:26 <ezdiy>	you jelly?
Apr 12 01:04:36 <dub>	it can be stopped
Apr 12 01:04:48 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees likes to compare himself to movie producers and henry ford
Apr 12 01:04:51 <tiberiusiv>	hah
Apr 12 01:04:54 <ezdiy>	(seriously, evoorhees profits just from being lucky bastard to buy sdice soon enough, not on any technical merit)
Apr 12 01:04:55 <tiberiusiv>	egomaniac
Apr 12 01:04:57 <ezdiy>	its same as mtgox
Apr 12 01:05:19 <dub>	they profit for roughy the same reason, bitcoin has an endless supply of morons
Apr 12 01:05:19 <tiberiusiv>	no he profits because he ran the cashin service + advertisied on the largest wallet site.
Apr 12 01:05:25 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 12 01:05:34 <ezdiy>	haha, that too
Apr 12 01:05:37 <tiberiusiv>	and voorhees makes sure hes first inline to target their $
Apr 12 01:05:44 <evoorhees>	I don't work for bitinstant tiberius... you gonna keep spouting that theory?
Apr 12 01:05:45 <tiberiusiv>	hence why satoshidice is a "game" on blockchain
Apr 12 01:05:52 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees you did.
Apr 12 01:06:06 <InstantBTC>	what happened with bitinstant?
Apr 12 01:06:23 <ezdiy>	too much liability
Apr 12 01:06:24 <tiberiusiv>	well it isnt too smart to have a casino operator also run a cash in service.
Apr 12 01:06:26 <ezdiy>	tainted moneys
Apr 12 01:06:30 <evoorhees>	sigh
Apr 12 01:06:40 <ThickAsThieves>	bitfloor: "Our servers are experiencing intermittent DDoS attacks. We are trying to resolve the situation for all of our users. If you are coordinating a DDoS attack, please remember that bitcoin companies are not giant multinationals with huge support staff and computers. We are all involved because we want to see bitcoin succeed."
Apr 12 01:06:40 <InstantBTC>	lolol
Apr 12 01:07:11 <ThickAsThieves>	plz stop ddos, we are nice guys
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Apr 12 01:07:33 <tiberiusiv>	Director of Marketing and Communications
Apr 12 01:07:33 <tiberiusiv>	BitInstant
Apr 12 01:07:33 <tiberiusiv>	January 2012 – Present (1 year 4 months) Global
Apr 12 01:07:38 <InstantBTC>	question. why doesn't everybody use services like cloudflare?
Apr 12 01:07:48 <jcpham>	damnit i rebooted a server and i don't think it came back
Apr 12 01:07:49 <dub>	InstantBTC: because cloudflare sucks?
Apr 12 01:07:51 <cole_albon>	in this video, the guy says ripple dice is better tun satoshi dice anyway.  I don't understand why you guys are debating yesterday's dice technology http://www.thebitcointrader.com/2013/04/ripple-coin-flip-satoshidice-of-ripple.html
Apr 12 01:07:54 <ezdiy>	InstantBTC: cloudflare are good at pr
Apr 12 01:07:54 <jcpham>	why i don't like workign at night
Apr 12 01:08:00 <jcpham>	mtgox still fubar?
Apr 12 01:08:06 <dub>	roger
Apr 12 01:08:09 <jcpham>	woohoo
Apr 12 01:08:12 <dub>	roger still rogered
Apr 12 01:08:18 <InstantBTC>	why does cloudflare suck?
Apr 12 01:08:21 <ezdiy>	cole_albon: :)))))
Apr 12 01:08:38 <dub>	its the cheapest nastiest cdn
Apr 12 01:08:43 <ezdiy>	InstantBTC: theyre not particularly better or worse than other companies
Apr 12 01:08:49 <ThickAsThieves>	cloudflare sucks because its barely better than downtime
Apr 12 01:08:56 <InstantBTC>	lol
Apr 12 01:09:02 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin pretty much enabled people like mircea and voorhees to run wild
Apr 12 01:09:12 <tiberiusiv>	otherwise both would be in cubicles working for min wage
Apr 12 01:09:17 <ezdiy>	you get you what you pay for
Apr 12 01:09:26 <InstantBTC>	fair enough
Apr 12 01:09:28 <ezdiy>	thats why you must always bet below 1
Apr 12 01:09:32 <ezdiy>	less revenue to sdice
Apr 12 01:09:36 <InstantBTC>	lol
Apr 12 01:09:41 <dub>	tiberiusiv: the best part is, because of evoorhees libertard 'nobody is the boss of me!' ideals, nothing you say to him even makes sense
Apr 12 01:10:00 <evoorhees>	who's the boss of you dub?
Apr 12 01:10:08 <dub>	I mean, he ran away from his own country becuase of his illegal business, but thats somehow our fault
Apr 12 01:10:12 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees has a boss its called money
Apr 12 01:10:23 <evoorhees>	I didn't run away from any country
Apr 12 01:10:32 *	ezdiy bets evoorhees will do just fine
Apr 12 01:10:33 <evoorhees>	I've lived abroad most of the time since I left college
Apr 12 01:10:34 <ezdiy>	i mean, look at kimble
Apr 12 01:10:36 <dub>	its the evil people who don't think you should be able to fuck over other peoples fault
Apr 12 01:10:38 <evoorhees>	but don't let that fact get in your way
Apr 12 01:10:38 <ezdiy>	moneys solve everything
Apr 12 01:10:45 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: abroad? new hampshire
Apr 12 01:10:46 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 12 01:10:57 <evoorhees>	dubai
Apr 12 01:11:23 <InstantBTC>	;;ticker
Apr 12 01:11:25 <evoorhees>	now I assume you'll start making fun of dubai also
Apr 12 01:11:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 12 01:11:33 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 230925 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 914 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 13 hours, 45 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9066951.86172 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.16697
Apr 12 01:11:34 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 12 01:11:42 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 01:11:44 <dub>	dubai kinds sucks
Apr 12 01:11:46 <benkay>	well
Apr 12 01:11:51 <ezdiy>	dub: thats how the world works now. dog eats dog
Apr 12 01:11:53 <dub>	no booze, no group sex
Apr 12 01:11:54 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 12 01:11:54 <ezdiy>	not in the sexual fashion
Apr 12 01:11:55 <tiberiusiv>	dub: i dont get what your beef is though?
Apr 12 01:12:18 <tiberiusiv>	dub: voorhees couldnt do much to prop the stock price during a delfationary event
Apr 12 01:12:23 <evoorhees>	his beef is that I sold some of my s.dice shares at a price he didn't agree with
Apr 12 01:12:26 <tiberiusiv>	deflationary*
Apr 12 01:12:29 <dub>	tiberiusiv: just pointing out the futility of your trolling, you can't break his shield of smug self entitelment
Apr 12 01:12:49 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought they werent yours
Apr 12 01:12:52 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees well you must agree your shares were grossly overvalued
Apr 12 01:12:53 <evoorhees>	there is rampant smugness in this room, I will admit
Apr 12 01:12:56 <ThickAsThieves>	but someone else that wanted to sell
Apr 12 01:12:58 <dub>	he is a a beautiful and unique snowflake
Apr 12 01:13:25 <ezdiy>	evoorhees: to be fair, normal companies just increase the stake covered by all shares, too. ie emit 2x as much share, raise dividends by 50%
Apr 12 01:13:27 <evoorhees>	thickasthieves - I bought some from a private holder, then sold about half of what I bought
Apr 12 01:13:34 <ezdiy>	they'll still be bitter about it, but hey better than ntohing
Apr 12 01:14:24 <tiberiusiv>	ezdiy what are you talking about?
Apr 12 01:14:33 <dub>	evoorhees: are we smug in here because all you are used to getting is analingus from your "friends"
Apr 12 01:14:53 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c51ck/i_think_this_subreddit_should_seriously_consider/
Apr 12 01:15:04 <ezdiy>	ThickAsThieves: #bitcoin-suicide
Apr 12 01:15:05 <ThickAsThieves>	2nd ranked reddit under bitcoin
Apr 12 01:15:37 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees created a huge "buzz" around sdice by having his friends place large wagers, this caused greedy bidders(dub) to flood the market with buy orders allowing voorhees to dump another load on everyone.
Apr 12 01:15:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4249 @ 0.0006924 = 2.942 BTC [+]
Apr 12 01:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12351 @ 0.00069911 = 8.6347 BTC [+]
Apr 12 01:16:14 <evoorhees>	once again tiberius, making up incorrect information, assuming it's true, and weaving into a narrative of vitriol
Apr 12 01:16:26 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees how is it false?
Apr 12 01:16:40 <ThickAsThieves>	so btc-e is now the most stable exchange we have
Apr 12 01:16:46 <evoorhees>	I did not have anyone place large wagers to distort anything
Apr 12 01:17:02 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: the facts are majority of bitcoins are held by at max 100 people, no new "gambler" shows up to bet 15k on a lame internet website for entertainment
Apr 12 01:17:08 <ThickAsThieves>	can you start?
Apr 12 01:17:12 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 12 01:17:13 <tiberiusiv>	they would go to a real casino
Apr 12 01:17:16 <evoorhees>	hehehe
Apr 12 01:17:16 <tiberiusiv>	or play on a real website
Apr 12 01:17:28 <evoorhees>	tiberius I'm sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about
Apr 12 01:17:41 <tiberiusiv>	sure
Apr 12 01:17:45 <evoorhees>	you just make shit up all the time
Apr 12 01:17:56 <evoorhees>	"the majority of bitcoins are held by at max 100 people"
Apr 12 01:17:57 <tiberiusiv>	no im stating fact
Apr 12 01:17:58 <evoorhees>	proof?
Apr 12 01:18:04 <evoorhees>	"erik is inflating numbers"
Apr 12 01:18:06 <evoorhees>	proof?
Apr 12 01:18:10 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: they are.
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Apr 12 01:18:14 <error4733>	erik, how can you lose 5 min trying to explain him something he cant understand ! Its EV-, way way more thant 1.9%
Apr 12 01:18:24 <tiberiusiv>	you know it just as much as i do
Apr 12 01:18:24 <evoorhees>	hehehe
Apr 12 01:18:32 <evoorhees>	I know what's true because I run the site
Apr 12 01:18:48 <tiberiusiv>	100 people effectively control majority of current BTC market cap, and many of them are your pals.
Apr 12 01:18:50 <dub>	correction, we run th esite for you
Apr 12 01:18:59 <tiberiusiv>	only ones rich enough to go gambling with size on sdice
Apr 12 01:19:01 <evoorhees>	and this is why it's amazing to watch you make shit up and assume it's true
Apr 12 01:19:22 <evoorhees>	you're wrong
Apr 12 01:19:26 <tiberiusiv>	you create a buzz in order to stimulate the bid
Apr 12 01:19:31 <evoorhees>	wrong
Apr 12 01:19:42 <evoorhees>	keep churning out the nonsense
Apr 12 01:19:53 <tiberiusiv>	dump shares of a intrinsically worthless firm onto greedy buyers looking to get rich quick with promises of huge payouts
Apr 12 01:20:22 <ThickAsThieves>	he will if you keep feeding him
Apr 12 01:20:29 <evoorhees>	you're right
Apr 12 01:20:39 <evoorhees>	lol okay I've learned my lesson
Apr 12 01:20:40 <ezdiy>	dub: i think if the shares were worth only 1% of sdice it would be more funny
Apr 12 01:20:57 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees yep ignore truth
Apr 12 01:21:08 <evoorhees>	one of us is
Apr 12 01:21:10 <tiberiusiv>	shareholders sitting on losses tells the entire story.
Apr 12 01:21:16 <tiberiusiv>	same with mircea bondholders getting soaked
Apr 12 01:21:26 <tiberiusiv>	markets never lie evoorhees
Apr 12 01:21:38 <tiberiusiv>	libertarian ideal
Apr 12 01:21:45 <evoorhees>	you're saying markets never lie... and yet you said s.dice is worthless
Apr 12 01:21:51 <tiberiusiv>	it is
Apr 12 01:21:53 <evoorhees>	which of your contradicting statements will you retract?
Apr 12 01:21:57 <tiberiusiv>	hence the massive decline.
Apr 12 01:22:06 <tiberiusiv>	the only reason it hasnt fallen more is becuase you control 90% of shares
Apr 12 01:22:13 <evoorhees>	no I don't
Apr 12 01:22:18 <evoorhees>	again, you don't know facts lol
Apr 12 01:22:24 <tiberiusiv>	ah yes your friend
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Apr 12 01:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2563 @ 0.00068891 = 1.7657 BTC [-]
Apr 12 01:23:38 <dub>	ezdiy: the devil is in the execution, pretty much everyone agreed at the time its jsut most are too busy brown nosing
Apr 12 01:23:56 <ezdiy>	so what
Apr 12 01:23:57 <evoorhees>	tiberius - can I change topic for a sec, what do you do?
Apr 12 01:24:02 <ThickAsThieves>	evoorhees have you ever watched Gremlins?
Apr 12 01:24:03 <ezdiy>	dub: get rid of the shares if you dont agree
Apr 12 01:24:06 <evoorhees>	yes
Apr 12 01:24:09 <ezdiy>	thats how *truly unregulated markets* work
Apr 12 01:24:11 <tiberiusiv>	he cant
Apr 12 01:24:13 <ThickAsThieves>	its after midnight
Apr 12 01:24:18 <tiberiusiv>	theres no bid.
Apr 12 01:24:20 <evoorhees>	hehehe
Apr 12 01:24:22 <ezdiy>	take it or leave it
Apr 12 01:24:29 <dub>	cool,
Apr 12 01:24:29 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees IS the market
Apr 12 01:24:49 <evoorhees>	if dub wants to sell his shares I'll happily buy them so he stops bitching
Apr 12 01:24:57 <dub>	'take it or leave it'
Apr 12 01:24:59 <tiberiusiv>	at what price?
Apr 12 01:25:07 <evoorhees>	what price do you want dub?
Apr 12 01:25:18 <error4733>	*second
Apr 12 01:25:55 <tiberiusiv>	that sounds like a fair compromise dub
Apr 12 01:26:00 <ThickAsThieves>	.0075
Apr 12 01:26:10 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees will make your 0.2 btc whole again
Apr 12 01:26:28 <ezdiy>	it's like meth dealers
Apr 12 01:26:32 <ezdiy>	if its cutted too much
Apr 12 01:26:38 <ezdiy>	find another dealer (asset, in this case)
Apr 12 01:26:42 <InstantBTC>	evoorhees, if I start bitching can you buy my shares too?
Apr 12 01:26:52 <InstantBTC>	lol
Apr 12 01:26:52 <tiberiusiv>	great comparison ezdiy. mircea teach you that one?
Apr 12 01:27:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00068891 = 0.5305 BTC [-]
Apr 12 01:27:01 <dub>	don't remember what they were at somewhere around 7
Apr 12 01:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00068696 = 8.0374 BTC [-]
Apr 12 01:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00068483 = 4.5884 BTC [-]
Apr 12 01:27:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8930 @ 0.00068219 = 6.092 BTC [-]
Apr 12 01:27:20 <dub>	and I already ditched most of them before it declined further
Apr 12 01:27:26 <tiberiusiv>	ouch
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Apr 12 01:27:34 <InstantBTC>	I'll sell my sdice for 0.007
Apr 12 01:28:14 <ezdiy>	oh the joys of speculation
Apr 12 01:28:24 <ezdiy>	nobody gives the adrenaline rush more than being burned by your own greed
Apr 12 01:28:31 <tiberiusiv>	agreed
Apr 12 01:28:39 <tiberiusiv>	dub you were greedy admit it
Apr 12 01:28:40 <evoorhees>	tiberius - what do you do?
Apr 12 01:28:50 <evoorhees>	offline I mean
Apr 12 01:28:52 <tiberiusiv>	i collect welfare and sell foodstamps
Apr 12 01:28:54 <dub>	except most things your speculate on have some expectation of supply
Apr 12 01:29:02 <InstantBTC>	lol
Apr 12 01:29:09 <tiberiusiv>	dub you deserve the losses imo
Apr 12 01:29:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i missed it what does tib do?
Apr 12 01:29:23 <evoorhees>	dub - I'm sorry you suck at predicting market movements, welcome to the rest of humanity (myself included)
Apr 12 01:29:25 <tiberiusiv>	you went berserk greedy
Apr 12 01:29:31 <InstantBTC>	he collects welfare and sells foodstampts
Apr 12 01:29:34 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: he shivs peopel in the showers
Apr 12 01:29:52 <ezdiy>	dub: hey, its still better than GM stock
Apr 12 01:29:53 <tiberiusiv>	dub i really thought evoorhees hustled you but you buying at 7 just shows your own out of control greed
Apr 12 01:29:56 <dub>	evoorhees: dude stfu, you can't predictan asset issuers unannounced profit taking
Apr 12 01:29:59 <ThickAsThieves>	i assumed he was a comic book store owner
Apr 12 01:30:12 <tiberiusiv>	dub: and you deserve the losses for trying to capitalize on the misery of others to be honest
Apr 12 01:30:15 <ThickAsThieves>	with yellow skin
Apr 12 01:30:20 <ezdiy>	those guys just issued *new* stock and somehow made the old stock invalid
Apr 12 01:30:27 <evoorhees>	dub - I didn't take anything
Apr 12 01:30:27 <dub>	evoorhees: you are the only person to have done that in the history of bitcoin securities
Apr 12 01:30:30 <ezdiy>	(apparently by starting new company and asset stripping the former one)
Apr 12 01:30:38 <evoorhees>	I traded some shares I owned at a price I offered it at
Apr 12 01:30:46 <tiberiusiv>	dub: how did you expect sdice to be over 7 when btc was like 200 per dollar
Apr 12 01:30:51 <evoorhees>	nobody forced you to buy or sell anything
Apr 12 01:30:53 <tiberiusiv>	that would imply a market cap of 100mil+ ?
Apr 12 01:31:00 <dub>	tiberiusiv: this is a long time before the btcusd rally
Apr 12 01:31:13 <tiberiusiv>	dub: your own greed caught up to you
Apr 12 01:31:42 <dub>	yes, I didn't intend to hold s.dice until I died.
Apr 12 01:31:53 <evoorhees>	the rules of an equity market are as follows: whatever you have, you can offer for sale
Apr 12 01:32:10 <tiberiusiv>	dub: you were well aware voorhees was shady, well aware his business was shady, well aware mircea was a gypsy yet wanted to feast on the misery of others(gamblers) so you irrationally purchased overpriced shares
Apr 12 01:32:15 <tiberiusiv>	how can you blame erik for that?
Apr 12 01:32:22 <evoorhees>	Frankly dub, you would've been happy and lavishing praise on me if instead of selling 3% I bought 3% back
Apr 12 01:32:24 <dub>	so in fact. the only person wo is arguing that evoorhees didn't fuck us over is evoorhees
Apr 12 01:32:28 <evoorhees>	then your shares would go up and you'd be happy
Apr 12 01:32:38 <dub>	and ezdick who showed up here today
Apr 12 01:33:02 <tiberiusiv>	dub: voorhees makes a living on fucking people over and you wanted a part of that pot.
Apr 12 01:33:14 <tiberiusiv>	and now you want a refund lol
Apr 12 01:33:21 <dub>	tiberiusiv: get with the program bro, buy all the IPOs
Apr 12 01:33:29 <dub>	make a little bank on each, its how we roll
Apr 12 01:33:32 <evoorhees>	dub - answer this, would you have been pissed at me if I bought 3% of the shares back, instead of selling 3%?
Apr 12 01:33:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1015 BTC [-]
Apr 12 01:33:44 <tiberiusiv>	dub: yes finding a greater fool to dump your shares too
Apr 12 01:33:45 <dub>	evoorhees: if you had placed a limit order it would be fine
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Apr 12 01:34:03 <evoorhees>	I did place a limit order
Apr 12 01:34:04 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 01:34:10 <tiberiusiv>	dub i really dont get your beef man
Apr 12 01:34:17 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 01:34:19 <thestringpuller>	oh boy
Apr 12 01:34:23 <dub>	evoorhees: but you took a tiny volume market and saturated it, settign a precident that you may do so again at your whim
Apr 12 01:34:24 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 12 01:34:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.92502, Best ask: 104.15942, Bid-ask spread: 2.23440, Last trade: 101.92501, 24 hour volume: 147057.76758608, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 123.46717
Apr 12 01:34:38 <evoorhees>	anyone can sell their shares at their whim
Apr 12 01:34:44 <ThickAsThieves>	gox trading?
Apr 12 01:34:46 <evoorhees>	do you pre-announce when you're going to sell?
Apr 12 01:34:55 <tiberiusiv>	i dont see anything unethetical with what voorhees did via the share sale
Apr 12 01:34:57 <error4733>	guy, it's come back
Apr 12 01:35:05 <dub>	evoorhees: you sold at market, you halved (I think) the price
Apr 12 01:35:06 <evoorhees>	consider this - I bought almost double the shares that I sold in that tranche
Apr 12 01:35:11 <tiberiusiv>	he sold worthless shares to greedy individuals
Apr 12 01:35:17 <evoorhees>	the other owner was going to sell them liekly on the market, likely at market price
Apr 12 01:35:31 <evoorhees>	I offered to buy them, and then I sold only a piece of them at a reasonable price on the market
Apr 12 01:35:38 <dub>	someone back me up here, he's talkign directy out his ass
Apr 12 01:35:40 <evoorhees>	thereby preventing a far worse drop in price
Apr 12 01:35:41 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees so wait are you now admitting to being not only an ASK but also a BID in the market?
Apr 12 01:35:46 <dub>	it was a market sell
Apr 12 01:35:51 <tiberiusiv>	so once again you ARE the market
Apr 12 01:35:52 <evoorhees>	it was not a market sell dub
Apr 12 01:35:56 <tiberiusiv>	and when your bid went away the price tanked.
Apr 12 01:35:59 <evoorhees>	do you get your facts from tiberius?
Apr 12 01:36:14 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: so you admit to being the market.
Apr 12 01:36:20 <dub>	I was watching dude, apparently nobody else here has been around that long
Apr 12 01:36:21 <evoorhees>	what does that mean?
Apr 12 01:36:32 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: you said your friend was the seller and you were a buyer.
Apr 12 01:36:34 <evoorhees>	dub we can prove this, do you really want to embarass yourself?
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Apr 12 01:36:37 <tiberiusiv>	artificially inducing a price
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Apr 12 01:36:49 <dub>	if I thought showign your proof would help you understand I'd find the feed
Apr 12 01:36:56 <tiberiusiv>	you were trading with yourself essentially
Apr 12 01:37:03 <Skarr>	gox up!
Apr 12 01:37:07 <evoorhees>	tiberius - my friend had X shares. he wanted to sell them on the market. I offered to buy them instead so they wouldn't be "dumped" to use dub's favorite word
Apr 12 01:37:22 <tiberiusiv>	and where did that transaction occur?
Apr 12 01:37:22 <evoorhees>	I then sold a portion of them, at limit orders and a reasonable price, on mpex
Apr 12 01:37:24 <tiberiusiv>	OTC or on the exchange
Apr 12 01:37:27 <thestringpuller>	trades aren't going through
Apr 12 01:37:32 <thestringpuller>	mtgox is "up"
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Apr 12 01:38:05 <evoorhees>	dub - I promise you mate I put limit orders in, I'm not retarded
Apr 12 01:38:09 <dub>	lying to a troll, thats low
Apr 12 01:38:17 <tiberiusiv>	dub: he couldnt have market dumped them
Apr 12 01:38:24 <tiberiusiv>	it would have sunk to like 0
Apr 12 01:38:40 <dub>	ok, sorry my terminology may be wrong
Apr 12 01:38:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2920 @ 0.00068219 = 1.992 BTC [-]
Apr 12 01:38:46 <tiberiusiv>	he caused a commotion to get bids to pickup his shares
Apr 12 01:38:50 <dub>	he may have done a limit order, at half teh current price
Apr 12 01:38:55 <tiberiusiv>	through various manipulative actions
Apr 12 01:38:57 <dub>	I will grant you that
Apr 12 01:39:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1062 @ 0.00067922 = 0.7213 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 01:39:14 <tiberiusiv>	dub maybe that was the only bid available for the size he was dumping
Apr 12 01:39:21 <tiberiusiv>	at half price
Apr 12 01:39:22 <evoorhees>	tiberius is correct in that - if I market dumped they would've gone to zero
Apr 12 01:39:31 <evoorhees>	good point tiberius, I'll give you credit when it's due
Apr 12 01:39:38 <ZedsterX>	are you kidding me gox is choked again?
Apr 12 01:39:47 <error4733>	[07:39] <+amphipod> Apr12 05:39:03 mtgox     x72   292.1820 @    95.48992529 USD
Apr 12 01:39:51 <evoorhees>	dub I did three tranches of 1m shares each
Apr 12 01:39:51 <ZedsterX>	sorry just got back out of bed
Apr 12 01:39:57 <evoorhees>	the first was a limit order at .0044 I think
Apr 12 01:40:07 <evoorhees>	then the second at .0052ish, then the last at .0059
Apr 12 01:40:10 <tiberiusiv>	dub: you dont seem to  understand how a market functions. the price you reference is the "last sale" it means nothing. 1 single share can set the price.
Apr 12 01:40:16 <error4733>	yes and it's was chrismass
Apr 12 01:40:18 <evoorhees>	my numbers might be a little off but you get the point
Apr 12 01:40:34 <dub>	yes and what was the last price before the first tranch
Apr 12 01:40:39 <ZedsterX>	there i got it to come up
Apr 12 01:40:43 <tiberiusiv>	last price is irrelevant
Apr 12 01:40:51 <evoorhees>	it was around .006-.0065
Apr 12 01:41:08 <tiberiusiv>	if he had faked larger players im sure he could have sold at 0.007
Apr 12 01:41:15 <tiberiusiv>	but more people would have been suspect at that point
Apr 12 01:41:19 <tiberiusiv>	so he played it smart
Apr 12 01:41:28 <dub>	this was also during a period of significant price increase
Apr 12 01:41:37 <tiberiusiv>	dub yea on what small volume?
Apr 12 01:41:49 <tiberiusiv>	you and thickasthieves exchanging shares between yourselves
Apr 12 01:41:56 <evoorhees>	tiberius look, if you're going to criticize me, at least do it for real things
Apr 12 01:41:58 <dub>	yes, one each back and forth
Apr 12 01:42:15 <tiberiusiv>	dub: you keep ignoring many factors such as volume, bid/ask size
Apr 12 01:42:24 <tiberiusiv>	the last price is not important
Apr 12 01:42:37 <dub>	tiberiusiv: because they are irrelevant
Apr 12 01:42:39 <tiberiusiv>	he didnt have a BID ready to accept the huge size he wanted to sell
Apr 12 01:42:47 <tiberiusiv>	of course he had to go lower
Apr 12 01:42:49 <tiberiusiv>	thats a NORMAL market
Apr 12 01:42:50 <evoorhees>	correct
Apr 12 01:43:03 <evoorhees>	that is a normal market
Apr 12 01:43:07 <dub>	its not normal for the asset issuer to do this
Apr 12 01:43:12 <tiberiusiv>	yes it is
Apr 12 01:43:15 <tiberiusiv>	it happens all the time
Apr 12 01:43:28 <evoorhees>	it's normal for any seller of large amount of something to offer discount in order to get it sold in a timely manner
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Apr 12 01:43:34 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 12 01:43:38 <thestringpuller>	lol tiberiusiv gets along with voorhees but not mr. popescu
Apr 12 01:43:42 <dub>	now im getting trolled
Apr 12 01:43:45 <dub>	dafuq
Apr 12 01:43:57 <tiberiusiv>	dub no you arent
Apr 12 01:44:03 <tiberiusiv>	you just dont know how a basic market functions
Apr 12 01:44:15 <tiberiusiv>	your own greed wanted a greater fool to come along to buy your valueless shares from you
Apr 12 01:44:23 <tiberiusiv>	thats what you are upset over
Apr 12 01:44:28 <dub>	of course
Apr 12 01:44:41 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees just offered more for less
Apr 12 01:44:43 <dub>	why would I want to hold shares long term in an operation I'm sure is illegal?
Apr 12 01:44:54 <tiberiusiv>	why did you buy them in the first place?
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Apr 12 01:45:01 <tiberiusiv>	for that huge pot it was generating
Apr 12 01:45:02 <dub>	to makea  fast buck
Apr 12 01:45:13 <tiberiusiv>	and you deserve to lose
Apr 12 01:45:24 <dub>	you sound like a libertard
Apr 12 01:45:28 <tiberiusiv>	someone outsmarted you
Apr 12 01:45:41 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees made the fast buck and it was yours he was making lol
Apr 12 01:45:45 <dub>	evoorhees did, sure, he had a big edge and used it
Apr 12 01:45:45 <evoorhees>	dub you realize that calling people names makes you sound like your five
Apr 12 01:45:59 <tiberiusiv>	dub your arguement is lame
Apr 12 01:46:09 <tiberiusiv>	you wanted voorhees to wait until you found a sucker first
Apr 12 01:46:18 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating
Apr 12 01:46:19 <gribble>	(getrating <nick>) -- Get rating information for <nick>.
Apr 12 01:46:21 <evoorhees>	dub - do you care not at all that I bought a bunch of shares that would've been dumped on the market, and only sold a portion of them, at limit order so as not to cause chaos?
Apr 12 01:46:22 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating dub
Apr 12 01:46:23 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User dub, rated since Wed Dec 19 15:09:17 2012. Cumulative rating 4, from 4 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 7 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=dub
Apr 12 01:46:28 <evoorhees>	do you not recognize that?
Apr 12 01:46:32 <evoorhees>	or care about that?
Apr 12 01:46:48 <tiberiusiv>	why would a greedy individual like dub care about anyone but himself
Apr 12 01:46:55 <dub>	evoorhees: you took the price from 7 to 4
Apr 12 01:47:04 <dub>	and ensured nobody would want to buy more ever again
Apr 12 01:47:07 <evoorhees>	YOU TOOK IT FROM 4 TO 7!!!
Apr 12 01:47:13 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: shouldn't I ask you the same thing? you're a greedy individual no?
Apr 12 01:47:21 <evoorhees>	not my problem
Apr 12 01:47:24 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller i have limits.
Apr 12 01:47:27 <dub>	lol here we have it
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Apr 12 01:47:34 <tiberiusiv>	dub hes got a point
Apr 12 01:47:38 <tiberiusiv>	why did you pay 7 for it?
Apr 12 01:47:38 <thestringpuller>	are you sure? you're murican, so...
Apr 12 01:47:47 <evoorhees>	if a bunch of people want to bid the price up to crazy heights, it is not my problem
Apr 12 01:47:49 <dub>	tiberiusiv: I didn't pay 7
Apr 12 01:47:56 <evoorhees>	I will sell at the price I think it good, you are welcome to do the same
Apr 12 01:47:58 <tiberiusiv>	what did you pay
Apr 12 01:48:01 <tiberiusiv>	earlier you said 7
Apr 12 01:48:06 <evoorhees>	altogether it makes a market, and people should stop bitching about it
Apr 12 01:48:19 <dub>	evoorhees: cool, but when you have 90% of the shares that puts you in a unique position
Apr 12 01:48:29 <evoorhees>	I don't have 90% of the shares
Apr 12 01:48:33 <evoorhees>	stop getting your info from tiberius
Apr 12 01:48:36 <dub>	how many then
Apr 12 01:48:38 <tiberiusiv>	dub but you were well aware of evoorhees being shady and running a criminal organization
Apr 12 01:48:43 <evoorhees>	that's private
Apr 12 01:48:44 <tiberiusiv>	that didnt stop you
Apr 12 01:49:00 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees was very transparent dub
Apr 12 01:49:01 <evoorhees>	criminal organization lol
Apr 12 01:49:04 <dub>	evoorhees: its some number large enough to make every other trader of them insignificant
Apr 12 01:49:14 <dub>	evoorhees: which is the point you conveniently ignore
Apr 12 01:49:22 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 01:49:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.60000, Best ask: 88.87998, Bid-ask spread: 0.27998, Last trade: 88.87998, 24 hour volume: 154116.80288364, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 188.70000, 24 hour vwap: 121.59853
Apr 12 01:49:28 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 01:49:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3.915194 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0078460049393 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).
Apr 12 01:49:29 <tiberiusiv>	dub the market was pricing in the asset sale
Apr 12 01:49:35 <tiberiusiv>	hence why you didnt find the greater fool
Apr 12 01:49:36 <evoorhees>	What if I told you I was a minority owner?
Apr 12 01:49:41 <thestringpuller>	dude this is dumb, gox has ruined lives
Apr 12 01:49:50 <tiberiusiv>	thats like popescu telling us hes honest
Apr 12 01:49:52 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 12 01:50:16 <dub>	evoorhees: ok you 'control' them rather than own, you are picking irrelevant nits
Apr 12 01:50:27 <evoorhees>	mircea has always shown himself to be honest to me, though I am sitting here watching you spout lies tiberius.
Apr 12 01:50:36 <evoorhees>	I don't control them
Apr 12 01:50:46 <tiberiusiv>	evorhees um today he ripped a guy off for 1000btc in the channel.
Apr 12 01:51:06 <evoorhees>	well I'd like to hear what happened, but I won't take your word for it
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Apr 12 01:51:09 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees why wouldnt he be honest to you? sdice is the only asset on mpex. lol
Apr 12 01:51:18 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees  you can talk to bugpowder
Apr 12 01:51:18 <dub>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 01:51:20 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.984459 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00197284481345 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 12 01:52:03 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: no dude, he put in an order, saw it on stat, but the bot might have not written it, his account wasn't debited for the puts foo
Apr 12 01:52:22 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees mircea has been caught time and time again manipulating his scam emporium
Apr 12 01:52:27 <thestringpuller>	mpoe-bot doesn't quote when not connected to gox
Apr 12 01:52:34 <tiberiusiv>	when mircea is not active in the chan, volume collapses
Apr 12 01:53:12 <tiberiusiv>	tehsdtringpuller: mircea said bugpowder was late by a few "milliseconds" even though the order numbers were totally different
Apr 12 01:53:15 <tiberiusiv>	and his account was debited
Apr 12 01:53:23 <evoorhees>	mate... after hearing all the wrong things you say about me, pardon me if I'm skeptical of your accurate knowledge when it comes to other people
Apr 12 01:53:25 <tiberiusiv>	he refunded him after rolling back the order
Apr 12 01:53:47 <thestringpuller>	yea problem solved
Apr 12 01:53:55 <thestringpuller>	don't place orders when the bot can't connect
Apr 12 01:54:01 <tiberiusiv>	mircea didnt want to pay out 1000btc
Apr 12 01:54:05 <thestringpuller>	it's in the fucking faq dude
Apr 12 01:54:07 <tiberiusiv>	thats what happend
Apr 12 01:54:13 <thestringpuller>	no it'
Apr 12 01:54:15 <thestringpuller>	s no
Apr 12 01:54:17 <thestringpuller>	t
Apr 12 01:54:18 <tiberiusiv>	the bot was connected
Apr 12 01:54:27 <tiberiusiv>	he said it was milliseconds. thats impossible you know it
Apr 12 01:54:27 <thestringpuller>	why do you like to just spout your opinion as "fact"
Apr 12 01:54:37 <evoorhees>	haha you noticed that too huh
Apr 12 01:54:40 <tiberiusiv>	i was here when it happend and so was half the chan
Apr 12 01:54:52 <tiberiusiv>	mircea then went on a 5 paragraph explanation of BS.
Apr 12 01:55:04 <thestringpuller>	what's impossible knowing what's in mircea's mind or how mpoe-bot works?
Apr 12 01:55:13 <thestringpuller>	hint: it's a trick question :P
Apr 12 01:55:20 <tiberiusiv>	dude youve got like 2 btc
Apr 12 01:55:26 <tiberiusiv>	hoping on becoming a millionaire
Apr 12 01:55:29 <tiberiusiv>	be quiet
Apr 12 01:55:31 <dub>	lol
Apr 12 01:55:38 <tiberiusiv>	the guy ripped off bugpowder
Apr 12 01:55:41 <dub>	I like that like th ebest
Apr 12 01:55:49 <dub>	dont talk to me pauper
Apr 12 01:55:54 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 12 01:55:56 <thestringpuller>	i had 100 btc and sold 20 to start a business
Apr 12 01:56:05 <tiberiusiv>	i love it with when the pikers open their mouths
Apr 12 01:56:11 <tiberiusiv>	or chime in
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Apr 12 01:56:19 <dub>	piker?
Apr 12 01:56:20 <tiberiusiv>	what business did you start for 20 btc?
Apr 12 01:56:22 <thestringpuller>	get off your high horse tiberiusiv and contribute something to the world other than an opinion you try to pass as fact
Apr 12 01:56:26 <evoorhees>	tiberius - I'm headin out for the night, but I would indeed like to know what you do IRL
Apr 12 01:56:31 <tiberiusiv>	collecting alumininum cans?
Apr 12 01:56:38 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: is a banker
Apr 12 01:56:41 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: im retired
Apr 12 01:56:42 <thestringpuller>	;)
Apr 12 01:56:47 <evoorhees>	what did you used to do?
Apr 12 01:56:53 <tiberiusiv>	trade futures
Apr 12 01:57:01 <dub>	fluffer in gay porn
Apr 12 01:57:13 <evoorhees>	you really traded futures?
Apr 12 01:57:16 <ThickAsThieves>	ready for the btc resurrection?
Apr 12 01:57:18 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 12 01:57:26 <tiberiusiv>	dub: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=piker
Apr 12 01:57:42 <evoorhees>	so you bought things at low prices when you could, and sold them higher when you could?
Apr 12 01:57:59 <tiberiusiv>	no i mostly traded bond spreads
Apr 12 01:58:13 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: I run a party business and make money off drunk people
Apr 12 01:58:20 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: aka project x
Apr 12 01:58:34 <thestringpuller>	but I the aluminum can idea is kinda brilliant
Apr 12 01:58:51 <evoorhees>	tiberius you realize some people are addicted to trading markets, right?
Apr 12 01:58:56 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 12 01:58:57 <dub>	are you the deathbylolipop guy?
Apr 12 01:59:07 <dub>	thestringpuller ^
Apr 12 01:59:11 <thestringpuller>	no
Apr 12 01:59:13 <evoorhees>	k
Apr 12 01:59:25 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: you need at least 25k to be allowed to trade.
Apr 12 01:59:30 <tiberiusiv>	not 12 years old playing sdice
Apr 12 01:59:42 <tiberiusiv>	so dont even start with the comparison
Apr 12 01:59:59 <dub>	yeah get off his lawn
Apr 12 02:00:03 <evoorhees>	you do know that some people with 25k have ruined themselves on lost money
Apr 12 02:00:12 <tiberiusiv>	probably
Apr 12 02:00:14 <evoorhees>	ruined their whole lives
Apr 12 02:00:15 <tiberiusiv>	i dont endorse gambling.
Apr 12 02:00:20 <evoorhees>	and you profited from the other side of that trade
Apr 12 02:00:20 <tiberiusiv>	hence why i only traded spreads
Apr 12 02:00:24 <dub>	let the illuminati rich retired trader chat on IRC in peace
Apr 12 02:00:25 <thestringpuller>	YET YOU TRADE FUTURES
Apr 12 02:00:31 <thestringpuller>	the fuck is wrong with this guy?!?!?!?
Apr 12 02:00:34 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: i dont trade directional
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Apr 12 02:00:46 <tiberiusiv>	gambling on where the market is going
Apr 12 02:00:50 <tiberiusiv>	why would i want to lose money?
Apr 12 02:00:56 <evoorhees>	if you were earning money trading, others were losing money
Apr 12 02:01:05 <evoorhees>	some of them may have been addicted
Apr 12 02:01:18 <evoorhees>	I hope you don't cry yourself to sleep at night knowing that you contributed to the vices of others
Apr 12 02:01:31 <dub>	I lost track of who is trolling who now
Apr 12 02:01:41 <tiberiusiv>	most of my spreads were used by commercials to hedge positions
Apr 12 02:01:54 <evoorhees>	oh right because commercials aren't made of real people
Apr 12 02:01:54 <tiberiusiv>	i provided vital service
Apr 12 02:01:58 <tiberiusiv>	you provide nothing.
Apr 12 02:02:04 <evoorhees>	whatever helps you sleep at night mate
Apr 12 02:02:12 <evoorhees>	you have an interesting way of venting your guilt
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Apr 12 02:02:14 <tiberiusiv>	i sleep fine, i didnt have to flee the US
Apr 12 02:02:22 <evoorhees>	neither did I
Apr 12 02:02:27 <evoorhees>	for the fifth time
Apr 12 02:02:31 <tiberiusiv>	what are you doing on an island then
Apr 12 02:02:46 <tiberiusiv>	aHA
Apr 12 02:02:49 <tiberiusiv>	no answer
Apr 12 02:02:55 <evoorhees>	first of all I'm not on an island
Apr 12 02:03:06 <tiberiusiv>	banking in panama?
Apr 12 02:03:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00319 = 0.0191 BTC [+]
Apr 12 02:03:12 <evoorhees>	second of all, the reason is that I don't like giving money to people who kill children
Apr 12 02:03:15 <tiberiusiv>	laundering millions aint easy
Apr 12 02:03:25 <ThickAsThieves>	95
Apr 12 02:03:44 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: why are you so hateful?
Apr 12 02:03:52 <tiberiusiv>	im not
Apr 12 02:03:59 <evoorhees>	tiberius you know panama is not an island right?
Apr 12 02:04:05 <ThickAsThieves>	97
Apr 12 02:04:06 <thestringpuller>	I think I've been here to see you piss on every pillar of the btc community to date
Apr 12 02:04:08 <tiberiusiv>	pointing out the simple hypocrisy's of libertarians like voorhees
Apr 12 02:04:09 <evoorhees>	or do you make up geography also now?
Apr 12 02:04:23 <tiberiusiv>	hell gladly ruin peoples lives as long as hes safe
Apr 12 02:04:26 <thestringpuller>	all humans are hypocritical
Apr 12 02:04:30 <thestringpuller>	we are human
Apr 12 02:04:30 <tiberiusiv>	becuase its voluntary
Apr 12 02:04:43 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees im well aware panama is not an island
Apr 12 02:04:49 <evoorhees>	I wonder how many peoples lives you ruined by taking the other side of a trade that impoverished them
Apr 12 02:04:54 <thestringpuller>	hot girls are in panama
Apr 12 02:05:08 <tiberiusiv>	none evorhees
Apr 12 02:05:12 <evoorhees>	prove it
Apr 12 02:05:25 <tiberiusiv>	most of the other side were people offloading excess or also hedging against risk
Apr 12 02:05:36 <tiberiusiv>	of course someone has to be wrong perse
Apr 12 02:05:51 <tiberiusiv>	but i dont run a gambling out fit where broke teenagers give me money
Apr 12 02:06:01 <tiberiusiv>	while i hideout in panama laundering millions
Apr 12 02:06:13 <thestringpuller>	see there goes the opinions trying to pass as fact
Apr 12 02:06:18 <thestringpuller>	we call this "rumor milling"
Apr 12 02:06:23 <tiberiusiv>	well what do you think hes doing there?
Apr 12 02:06:27 <tiberiusiv>	nobody goes to panama on vacation lol
Apr 12 02:06:28 <evoorhees>	you helped people "offload excess" and yet criticize me for laundering money, that's too funny
Apr 12 02:06:33 <thestringpuller>	is that really any of my business?
Apr 12 02:06:40 <tiberiusiv>	well laundering is a made up term
Apr 12 02:06:42 <tiberiusiv>	ill agree
Apr 12 02:06:47 <evoorhees>	I'll tell you what i'm doing in panama, tiberius
Apr 12 02:07:03 <tiberiusiv>	registering a corporation to evade taxation on your gaming proceeds
Apr 12 02:07:07 <tiberiusiv>	i already know evoorhees
Apr 12 02:07:33 <evoorhees>	I wanted to move to a non tax jurisdiction. I did it several years ago also when I moved to dubai. I'm not a fan of taxes. So feel free to criticize me for that if you want.
Apr 12 02:07:46 <ThickAsThieves>	100
Apr 12 02:07:47 <tiberiusiv>	yes but you are a US citizen
Apr 12 02:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 1.3 = 9.1 BTC [+]
Apr 12 02:08:03 <thestringpuller>	Dubai has no taxes?
Apr 12 02:08:10 <evoorhees>	"come back to the cages, slave!"
Apr 12 02:08:12 <tiberiusiv>	they dont have income or capital
Apr 12 02:08:18 <ThickAsThieves>	102
Apr 12 02:08:20 <dub>	I like tax
Apr 12 02:08:33 <dub>	I like how it gives me healthcare and roads and shit
Apr 12 02:08:40 <tiberiusiv>	evorhees none tax jurisdictions dont work for US nationals
Apr 12 02:08:40 <evoorhees>	do you like how it funds war?
Apr 12 02:08:46 <thestringpuller>	silly canadians
Apr 12 02:08:52 <tiberiusiv>	especially for your high income levels
Apr 12 02:08:58 <dub>	evoorhees: !US we dont even really have a military
Apr 12 02:09:05 <evoorhees>	you assume I'll be a "US national" forever
Apr 12 02:09:13 <tiberiusiv>	technically taxes dont pay for war
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Apr 12 02:09:15 <tiberiusiv>	debt does
Apr 12 02:09:22 <evoorhees>	debt is future taxes
Apr 12 02:09:30 <tiberiusiv>	debt is future inflation
Apr 12 02:09:36 <evoorhees>	and money is fungible, so yes taxes today do pay for war
Apr 12 02:09:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.759 = 7.59 BTC [+]
Apr 12 02:09:49 <ThickAsThieves>	104
Apr 12 02:09:58 <tiberiusiv>	no they dont most US wars have been financed by foreign bond buyers
Apr 12 02:10:12 <tiberiusiv>	US taxes do not cover the treasuries outlays
Apr 12 02:10:27 <ThickAsThieves>	105
Apr 12 02:10:32 <evoorhees>	of course taxes are not sufficient to pay for the wars
Apr 12 02:10:32 <tiberiusiv>	the US hasnt paid for a war in over 50 years
Apr 12 02:10:33 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv i know you, you sit in a corner office all day ruining the lives of people beneath you because you've been entitled to greatness. your father was a banker, so now you've grown into his image
Apr 12 02:10:45 <tiberiusiv>	lol thestringpuller
Apr 12 02:10:47 <evoorhees>	but the taxes fund the government, and I'm opposed to basically all of its activity
Apr 12 02:10:59 <thestringpuller>	each day stealing a little more wealth from those that need it most so you can live in luxury
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Apr 12 02:11:06 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees that doesnt make you a none scumbag
Apr 12 02:11:21 <dub>	s.dice itself is tax
Apr 12 02:11:23 <tiberiusiv>	you tax people a different way by preying on their weak wills
Apr 12 02:11:29 <dub>	idiot tax
Apr 12 02:11:29 <tiberiusiv>	exactly dub
Apr 12 02:11:29 <thestringpuller>	evoorhees: a true believer of Rothbard are we?
Apr 12 02:11:30 <evoorhees>	tax requires coercion
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Apr 12 02:11:47 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees no it doesnt. it requires psycological manipulation
Apr 12 02:11:48 <ThickAsThieves>	108
Apr 12 02:11:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75899 = 1.518 BTC [-]
Apr 12 02:11:56 <dub>	you are coercing idiots vie endorphins
Apr 12 02:11:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.759 BTC [+]
Apr 12 02:11:58 <tiberiusiv>	the government cannot coerce 100% of the population to pay taxes with mere force
Apr 12 02:12:00 <evoorhees>	look up definition of tax dude, come on
Apr 12 02:12:03 <tiberiusiv>	they do it through psycology
Apr 12 02:12:11 <dub>	or whatever the addiction mechanism is
Apr 12 02:12:12 <evoorhees>	the psychology rests on the coercion
Apr 12 02:12:21 <tiberiusiv>	the same way you coerce sdice players by playing on their greed, the government plays on your fear
Apr 12 02:12:23 <evoorhees>	if people were not coerced to pay taxes, I'd have no problem with them
Apr 12 02:12:36 <ian_>	there is a talented trader taking advantage right now
Apr 12 02:12:44 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: last time I checked, you don't pay taxes you go to jail...
Apr 12 02:12:54 <ian_>	move the wall to 100 and soak up everything below
Apr 12 02:12:58 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller: its impossible to JAIL even 10% of tax evaders.
Apr 12 02:13:05 <ian_>	move the wall to 110 soak up evertyhing between 100-110
Apr 12 02:13:08 <tiberiusiv>	you wouldnt be able to build enough prisons.
Apr 12 02:13:21 <tiberiusiv>	most people pay tax out of fear the same way they play SDICE out of greed
Apr 12 02:13:23 <thestringpuller>	they said that about the crack epidemic...
Apr 12 02:13:51 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv distributed crack to the poor neighborhoods to keep them impoverished
Apr 12 02:13:51 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees preys on human weakness the same way the government does.
Apr 12 02:13:55 <evoorhees>	causing fear in people is wrong
Apr 12 02:13:57 <tiberiusiv>	both with $$$ in mind
Apr 12 02:13:59 <evoorhees>	causing greed in people is not wrong
Apr 12 02:14:09 <evoorhees>	I have no problem with greed
Apr 12 02:14:21 <evoorhees>	so long as people don't lie, cheat, steal, or coerce
Apr 12 02:14:39 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees you prey on peoples weakness's not only fear but also gullibility, relative naiveness to a new system
Apr 12 02:14:46 <evoorhees>	you're welcome to keep calling me a libertard for that opinion
Apr 12 02:14:56 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees but you cheat
Apr 12 02:15:00 <dub>	im afraid that if I don't pay tax teh roads will be too shit to drive my sports car on
Apr 12 02:15:00 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: so you're a democrat?
Apr 12 02:15:01 <tiberiusiv>	and coerce
Apr 12 02:15:08 <evoorhees>	how do I cheat?
Apr 12 02:15:08 <dub>	nobody will fix potholes
Apr 12 02:15:19 <cole_albon>	tiberiusiv can you at least try playing the ripple dice game as an alternative to satoshidice? rEgXAZiBKcLPo64wRd5JaASpZ8mGidfZiX
Apr 12 02:15:31 <tiberiusiv>	would you fuck off cole
Apr 12 02:15:35 <tiberiusiv>	quit pasting that
Apr 12 02:15:53 <dub>	yeah fuck outta here with taht ripple scam
Apr 12 02:16:04 <dub>	this is btc scam territory
Apr 12 02:16:06 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees: you with your no rules/principle approach simply do not care what goes on at SDICE or WHO is on SDICE as long as your pockets are lined with green
Apr 12 02:16:31 <cole_albon>	I'm out
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Apr 12 02:16:46 <evoorhees>	as long as nobody is hurting or cheating or stealing or coercing, no I don't care what "goes on at s.dice"
Apr 12 02:16:52 <tiberiusiv>	you are hurting people
Apr 12 02:17:05 <thestringpuller>	who is he hurting?
Apr 12 02:17:07 <evoorhees>	how many facts are you going to make up tonight?
Apr 12 02:17:12 <tiberiusiv>	theres lists of gullible idiots that youve robbed by posting SDICE links on a bitcoin wallet as a GAME.
Apr 12 02:17:17 <dub>	gambling is known to harm its users man
Apr 12 02:17:22 <evoorhees>	it is a game
Apr 12 02:17:22 <thestringpuller>	why are you complaining about s.dice when gox is fucking up the market?
Apr 12 02:17:27 <dub>	this is not even an argument
Apr 12 02:17:36 <dub>	theres a reason its illegal in your country
Apr 12 02:17:47 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv is necessary however, a devil's advocate
Apr 12 02:17:49 <thestringpuller>	for that we should thank him
Apr 12 02:18:08 <bitesak>	This is getting silly
Apr 12 02:18:33 <evoorhees>	'night guys
Apr 12 02:18:43 <tiberiusiv>	im not the devils advocate
Apr 12 02:18:46 <tiberiusiv>	im stating fact
Apr 12 02:18:51 <tiberiusiv>	gambling damages lives
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Apr 12 02:18:55 <evoorhees>	gotta get back to preying on the week and extorting all their monies
Apr 12 02:19:01 <tiberiusiv>	hes no different then a government
Apr 12 02:19:20 <dub>	government doesnt addict you to tax
Apr 12 02:19:30 <tiberiusiv>	it addicts you to a paycheck
Apr 12 02:19:33 <evoorhees>	except I don't force anyone to do anything, there's that difference, but don't let it stop your argument
Apr 12 02:19:34 <tiberiusiv>	and all sorts of other things
Apr 12 02:19:37 <tiberiusiv>	nationalism
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Apr 12 02:19:41 <tiberiusiv>	wars,
Apr 12 02:19:49 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees but you create the demand
Apr 12 02:19:56 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: gambling damages lives in the same way drugs do, but the war on drugs has ruined more lives
Apr 12 02:19:58 <tiberiusiv>	its the same arguement as a drug dealer showing up to a new neighbourhood
Apr 12 02:20:04 <tiberiusiv>	where nobody knew what a particular drug was
Apr 12 02:20:09 <tiberiusiv>	the supply creates the demand
Apr 12 02:20:16 <evoorhees>	there is nothing wrong with selling drugs either
Apr 12 02:20:21 <tiberiusiv>	"im just supplying the market"
Apr 12 02:20:32 <tiberiusiv>	no you created the market
Apr 12 02:20:34 <thestringpuller>	no dude
Apr 12 02:20:41 <thestringpuller>	drugs kinda sell themselves
Apr 12 02:20:44 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees there is plenty wrong with selling drugs.
Apr 12 02:20:55 <thestringpuller>	there is this line though "The pusher just won't let the junkie go free"
Apr 12 02:20:56 <tiberiusiv>	tehstringpuller: no they dont. you cannot have demand before supply
Apr 12 02:20:56 <maximian>	evoorhees goodnight - hope to see another one of those great Bitcoin essays from you soon
Apr 12 02:20:57 <evoorhees>	why am I not suprised you'd say that
Apr 12 02:21:00 <thestringpuller>	but that's the nature of life
Apr 12 02:21:10 <tiberiusiv>	if you didnt know about a particular drug
Apr 12 02:21:14 <tiberiusiv>	you wouldnt have demanded it
Apr 12 02:21:18 <jcpham>	is atlas here right now
Apr 12 02:21:19 <tiberiusiv>	supply must come first
Apr 12 02:21:22 <thestringpuller>	everyone knows about drugs!
Apr 12 02:21:22 <evoorhees>	maximian - not sure I'll have time, I gotta keep preying upon the weak and lining my pockets!
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Apr 12 02:21:35 <thestringpuller>	drugs kinda rule
Apr 12 02:21:35 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees contribution to bitcoin is creating gambling dependency
Apr 12 02:21:46 <thestringpuller>	and your contribution to bitcoin is nothing
Apr 12 02:21:50 <dub>	tiberiusiv: don't forget breaking the network
Apr 12 02:21:52 <thestringpuller>	except trolling us
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Apr 12 02:22:16 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller: i thought i told you to be quiet? speak when youve got some skin in the game not 500 dollars of bitcoin
Apr 12 02:22:36 <evoorhees>	before I go, how do I mute users?
Apr 12 02:22:43 <tiberiusiv>	starts a tin pot business with 20btc
Apr 12 02:22:43 <thestringpuller>	you type /ignore
Apr 12 02:22:48 <jcpham>	you have listen forever evoorhees
Apr 12 02:22:49 <evoorhees>	and then the name?
Apr 12 02:22:57 <thestringpuller>	yessir
Apr 12 02:22:57 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees you can ignore me all you want, but you know i tell the truth.
Apr 12 02:23:09 <jcpham>	actually it's reading not listening
Apr 12 02:23:12 <thestringpuller>	no you troll with bits and pieces of truth
Apr 12 02:23:22 <thestringpuller>	the last person to troll this hard was eskimobob
Apr 12 02:23:25 <thestringpuller>	and look how he ended up?
Apr 12 02:23:26 <jcpham>	tiberiusiv do you know eskimobob?
Apr 12 02:23:30 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHA
Apr 12 02:23:33 <tiberiusiv>	the truth is difficult for most to comprehend
Apr 12 02:23:40 <dub>	do not call bob a troll
Apr 12 02:23:42 <evoorhees>	Frankly, tiberius, I know you're full of shit. But it was interesting talking to you.
Apr 12 02:23:44 <thestringpuller>	no the truth is we know nothing
Apr 12 02:23:53 <tiberiusiv>	the only way voorhees can sleep at night is on his matress made out of money
Apr 12 02:23:53 <dub>	that is an insult to trolling
Apr 12 02:23:58 <tiberiusiv>	gnite voorhees
Apr 12 02:23:58 <jcpham>	haha
Apr 12 02:24:08 <dub>	bob is actually a mouth frothing sociopath
Apr 12 02:24:14 <jcpham>	i miss him
Apr 12 02:24:16 <dub>	not at all a troll
Apr 12 02:24:21 <jcpham>	it must be perma-night in alaska
Apr 12 02:24:22 <tiberiusiv>	i would say mircea is a sociopath
Apr 12 02:24:32 <evoorhees>	tiberius I promise you have more money than me, so be careful with your insults
Apr 12 02:24:34 <dub>	nah he just likes to beat up chicks
Apr 12 02:24:44 <jcpham>	terrible
Apr 12 02:24:45 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees we know your sitting on at least 20mil+
Apr 12 02:24:47 <tiberiusiv>	no need to hide it
Apr 12 02:25:11 <thestringpuller>	then he'd be living in switzerland not panama
Apr 12 02:25:14 <tiberiusiv>	or did you give that all to the libertarian party lol
Apr 12 02:25:23 <thestringpuller>	jkj
Apr 12 02:25:24 <thestringpuller>	jk
Apr 12 02:25:26 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller: switzerland is worse then the US.
Apr 12 02:25:28 <jcpham>	btc wealth is boring because it is so random
Apr 12 02:25:31 <jcpham>	and accidental
Apr 12 02:25:38 <tiberiusiv>	and you dont have any jcpham.
Apr 12 02:25:45 <jcpham>	your momma
Apr 12 02:25:53 <tiberiusiv>	case and point
Apr 12 02:25:58 <thestringpuller>	yay we have devolved to your momma jokes
Apr 12 02:26:00 <evoorhees>	I'm not sitting on 20mil+... made up statistic #15215 of the evening
Apr 12 02:26:04 <jcpham>	at least i laughed though
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Apr 12 02:26:20 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: your momma is so fat...she plays pool with the planets
Apr 12 02:26:23 <dub>	what the fuck is case and point
Apr 12 02:26:28 <jcpham>	i have like 4 bitcoins now
Apr 12 02:26:28 <tiberiusiv>	evoorhees lol let me guess your a poor patriot suffering for the libertarian cause
Apr 12 02:26:35 <jcpham>	i'm almost rich
Apr 12 02:26:44 <jcpham>	falkvinge says there worth a mil each
Apr 12 02:27:02 <evoorhees>	I'm not poor, or suffering, and I'm definitely not a patriot
Apr 12 02:27:05 <dub>	true value is $15240
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Apr 12 02:27:38 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: you're the patriot if i recall declaring america the greatest country ever
Apr 12 02:27:43 <jcpham>	when mircea coughs up that rota pay i'm signing up on mpex and causing havok
Apr 12 02:27:45 <tiberiusiv>	it is
Apr 12 02:27:46 <dub>	$15260*
Apr 12 02:27:56 <tiberiusiv>	tehstringpuller: if i knew of a better one id say it
Apr 12 02:28:00 <dub>	jcpham: oh shit nigga you rich
Apr 12 02:28:01 <thestringpuller>	he hasn't paid ROTA yet?
Apr 12 02:28:07 <jcpham>	wut wt
Apr 12 02:28:15 <jcpham>	i told him he could pay me quarterly
Apr 12 02:28:16 <dub>	http://erratasec.blogspot.co.nz/2013/04/a-wonkish-look-at-bitcoin-economics.html
Apr 12 02:28:20 <jcpham>	something about december
Apr 12 02:30:42 <jcpham>	i'm going to have to come in here and call people names and shit more often
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Apr 12 02:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 26 @ 1.3 = 33.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 02:44:08 <punkman>	did mtgox resume trading at the time they said?
Apr 12 02:44:16 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 02:44:17 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.511018 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0030280631538 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Apr 12 02:44:18 <punkman>	wonder what I missed sleeping
Apr 12 02:44:23 <benkay>	;;ticker
Apr 12 02:44:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 104.50000, Best ask: 104.70999, Bid-ask spread: 0.20999, Last trade: 104.50000, 24 hour volume: 167598.25878233, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 186.84031, 24 hour vwap: 116.01069
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Apr 12 02:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.355 = 1.065 BTC [-]
Apr 12 02:51:59 <Namworld>	punkman, yes
Apr 12 02:52:49 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox is finished as an exchange
Apr 12 02:53:04 <tiberiusiv>	by this time next year i highly doubt they are more then 10-15% of trade
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Apr 12 02:55:05 <ZedsterX>	tiberiusiv:+1
Apr 12 02:55:28 <Namworld>	I wouldn't be surprised they stick around as major exchange sadly >.>
Apr 12 03:05:55 <bitesak>	No worries, keiser is building a solid uk exchange:)
Apr 12 03:08:26 <ZedsterX>	can;t be fast ehough and i hope he was not talking about exante.eu
Apr 12 03:08:26 <Namworld>	MaxBit
Apr 12 03:08:56 <Namworld>	The maximal velocity exchange"
Apr 12 03:09:04 <Namworld>	or something along that
Apr 12 03:10:57 <ZedsterX>	i am having troubles loading any of the market depth charts but what i see is very very sell heavy can anyone confirm?
Apr 12 03:11:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00067922 = 7.0639 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 03:14:30 <ThickAsThieves>	so where will price go from here
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Apr 12 03:14:50 <ThickAsThieves>	to 120? or 77?
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Apr 12 03:17:42 <ZedsterX>	what i am looking at 77
Apr 12 03:17:53 <ZedsterX>	but i don't know chit
Apr 12 03:19:12 <ZedsterX>	RM homey
Apr 12 03:19:18 <ZedsterX>	wrong window
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Apr 12 03:24:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00068903 = 9.8876 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 03:29:01 <ThickAsThieves>	wall at 90 getting bigger
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Apr 12 03:36:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00068903 = 3.4796 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 03:40:38 <Insaneatyou>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 03:40:39 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.209143 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00242310903376 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
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Apr 12 03:41:25 <jurov>	came to read what happened.. found just 2000 lines of drivel :/
Apr 12 03:43:23 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Apr 12 03:43:47 <ThickAsThieves>	gox was down after a short period of being up
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Apr 12 03:49:46 <ThickAsThieves>	nice big wall just moved from 90 to 95
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Apr 12 03:51:36 <ThickAsThieves>	or not
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Apr 12 04:10:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00069242 = 9.3477 BTC [+]
Apr 12 04:12:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5433 @ 0.00068344 = 3.7131 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 04:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00068239 = 5.1179 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 04:24:19 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 04:24:20 <gribble>	99.56
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Apr 12 04:36:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00068239 = 4.0943 BTC [-]
Apr 12 04:36:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1391 @ 0.00067922 = 0.9448 BTC [-]
Apr 12 04:38:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1512 @ 0.00067922 = 1.027 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 04:46:54 <Fullmonte>	http://www.bit4x.com/  recommend?
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Apr 12 04:46:58 <Fullmonte>	any problems
Apr 12 04:51:55 <guruvan>	I don't use bit4x yet, but kakobrekla runs that, and I definitely have respect for him Fullmonte
Apr 12 04:52:17 <jurov>	lol just had my mtgox moment... got lots of errors from coinbr, assumed attack
Apr 12 04:52:23 <Fullmonte>	I thought it was a btc/currency broker service
Apr 12 04:52:47 <jurov>	but it turned up new registrations exhausted all btc addresses
Apr 12 04:52:56 <guruvan>	it's a standard ForEx broker accepting deposit and paying earnings in BTC
Apr 12 04:53:18 <jurov>	Fullmonte,I'm not using it but i know its owner kakobrekla can be trusted
Apr 12 04:53:46 <guruvan>	I was waiting for the miinimum account balance to come down again
Apr 12 04:53:58 <Enky>	it's at 10 btc now
Apr 12 04:54:10 <guruvan>	orly - last I saw was 20
Apr 12 04:54:18 <Enky>	now 10
Apr 12 04:54:24 <guruvan>	10 is right where Ah need it
Apr 12 04:54:45 <guruvan>	I've been building my MT4 again
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Apr 12 04:55:57 <gesell>	jurov: is all  well?
Apr 12 04:56:22 <jurov>	yes, all well, turned to be non issue
Apr 12 04:56:30 <jurov>	just add moar accounts
Apr 12 04:57:13 <jurov>	or i can show waiting queue for new registrations, like mtgox lol
Apr 12 04:57:39 <guruvan>	if you get to 15K you're a bad ass
Apr 12 04:58:59 <gesell>	jurov: not sure if i would do that
Apr 12 04:59:09 <taub>	so
Apr 12 04:59:12 <taub>	what happened with mtgox
Apr 12 04:59:20 <taub>	are they still down
Apr 12 04:59:23 <gesell>	is it back online for trades>
Apr 12 04:59:24 <gesell>	?
Apr 12 04:59:46 <guruvan>	people in #bitcoin-analysis are trading
Apr 12 05:00:01 <guruvan>	on gox orderbooks - so....I guess it's up
Apr 12 05:00:44 <jurov>	gesell, what?
Apr 12 05:01:37 <guruvan>	prolly make that big queue like gox has. not the most effective marketing vehicle
Apr 12 05:01:41 <gesell>	jurov: just meant showing queu
Apr 12 05:02:05 <jurov>	hah that was just joke, there's no queue
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Apr 12 05:25:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21338 @ 0.000692 = 14.7659 BTC [+]
Apr 12 05:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112 @ 0.00069911 = 0.0783 BTC [+]
Apr 12 05:27:09 <taub>	  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI8xrnOrftM bitcoin theme
Apr 12 05:27:09 <taub>	time to die
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Apr 12 05:32:32 <mircea_popescu>	ahhh
Apr 12 05:32:35 <mircea_popescu>	so how we doin'
Apr 12 05:32:37 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 12 05:32:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.69400, Best ask: 90.69404, Bid-ask spread: 0.00004, Last trade: 90.69404, 24 hour volume: 206604.44982419, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 168.00000, 24 hour vwap: 104.07735
Apr 12 05:32:40 <MJR_>	hey mircea_popescu
Apr 12 05:32:48 <mircea_popescu>	a little low huh
Apr 12 05:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4835 @ 0.00067922 = 3.284 BTC [-]
Apr 12 05:37:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5501 @ 0.00067854 = 3.7326 BTC [-]
Apr 12 05:39:06 <MJR_>	http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/04/taming-the-bubble-investors-bet-on-bitcoin-via-derivatives-markets/
Apr 12 05:39:15 <jurov>	yea, just told my family to start getting in
Apr 12 05:39:23 <MJR_>	retards ^^^ how do they talk about "derivatives" without actually mentioning derivatives
Apr 12 05:41:00 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ it's a talent.
Apr 12 05:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	they are probably waiting for me to send them gifts and pat them on the head.
Apr 12 05:41:34 <mircea_popescu>	which is nice because i never will. they can come to me on knees and get something or else keep on prattling.
Apr 12 05:41:52 <MJR_>	i get that they should have mentioned mpex...
Apr 12 05:42:01 <MJR_>	but my point is that they should have mentioned a derivative
Apr 12 05:42:10 <MJR_>	hedge fund !=derivative
Apr 12 05:42:13 <MJR_>	nor does shorting
Apr 12 05:42:18 <MJR_>	or leveraged trading
Apr 12 05:42:47 <Scrat>	are you ready for the lulz today
Apr 12 05:42:54 <Scrat>	the "50x faster engine"
Apr 12 05:43:00 <MJR_>	so...they basically say financial derivatives can stablize markets (US govt banned onion futures and they are now volatile) so given that info
Apr 12 05:43:01 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ yea well...
Apr 12 05:43:08 <MJR_>	lets not talk about an actual derivative at all
Apr 12 05:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	in my experience it's kinda how this stuff goes. may be wrong.
Apr 12 05:43:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 05:43:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2.570025 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00515030132457 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
Apr 12 05:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	well... 2.57 seconds is 50x faster than something...
Apr 12 05:44:03 <Scrat>	2.57 seconds with roughly 30 trades in the last minute
Apr 12 05:44:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 12 05:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	anyway their lag problem should be resolved tghe other way
Apr 12 05:44:33 <mircea_popescu>	everyone quitting.
Apr 12 05:46:38 <error4733>	i.imgur.com/ngMsLqr.png
Apr 12 05:47:30 <Scrat>	error4733: very nice, which website is that
Apr 12 05:48:33 <error4733>	reddit?
Apr 12 05:51:19 <error4733>	or maybe the address in the address bar ?
Apr 12 05:51:34 <error4733>	:)
Apr 12 05:52:09 <error4733>	;;eightball should i stay in my bed get laida
Apr 12 05:52:10 <gribble>	Yes!
Apr 12 05:52:29 <error4733>	thanks eightball
Apr 12 05:52:42 <Scrat>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 05:52:43 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 79.565712 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.159448795986 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 12 05:52:46 <Scrat>	wahahahahah
Apr 12 05:53:15 <error4733>	;;eightball will my boss undesrtand i keep me tmrw
Apr 12 05:53:16 <gribble>	What are you asking me for?
Apr 12 05:53:18 <error4733>	;;eightball will my boss undesrtand i keep me tmrw
Apr 12 05:53:18 <gribble>	You know the answer better than I.
Apr 12 05:54:05 <error4733>	;;eightball will my boss know i fuck is daugter ?
Apr 12 05:54:05 <gribble>	You're kidding, right?
Apr 12 05:54:27 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 12 05:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	is she hot ?
Apr 12 05:54:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 79 @ 0.2 = 15.8 BTC [+]
Apr 12 05:54:51 <error4733>	no
Apr 12 05:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat well... it's 50x faster than 4000 seconds ?
Apr 12 05:56:10 <error4733>	resume for the last 6h ? no more drama ?
Apr 12 05:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	nothing much.
Apr 12 05:58:47 <error4733>	GOOD, pain in the ass to explain if btc was crash to 20$ ut this, 90$ is juste a correction from th last 3 crazy week ! hope next bubble i got some ball to short when a crash is obv
Apr 12 05:59:59 <jurov>	i just pretty much ignored whole bubble. not worth to mess with one's nerves like that.
Apr 12 06:00:31 <jurov>	might buy few next month calls soon, nothing else.
Apr 12 06:00:39 <taub>	$avg
Apr 12 06:00:40 <mpexbot>	taub: 97.18
Apr 12 06:00:46 <taub>	:>
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Apr 12 06:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	the good news is that based on 24 jhour data mtgox is down under 50% of volume
Apr 12 06:07:48 <mircea_popescu>	if this trend continues and in a week they're 20-30% this will all have been well worth it.
Apr 12 06:08:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13666 @ 0.00067363 = 9.2058 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 06:15:18 <bitesak_>	the pricing of options seem to have changed...
Apr 12 06:15:56 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, because the pricing of usd/btc has changed...
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Apr 12 06:17:18 <bitesak_>	fair enough, so strikes ned to be extended way beyond 500 to have prices flatten out at ~0.059?
Apr 12 06:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	bitesak_ the bot's volatility sense has been utterly overloaded these past few days
Apr 12 06:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	i think some assumptions baked into it originally (2011, that is) melded security with actual pricing at the edge cases.
Apr 12 06:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	we could say it's seeing more of a "catastrophic event" than normal market conditions.
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Apr 12 06:26:48 <bitesak_>	thanks. call options for Next month are the same price as This month as of strike 386
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Apr 12 06:29:38 <bitesak_>	and thank you mircea_popescu for your reliable and great service you offer. it does stick out nowadays.
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Apr 12 06:35:01 <mircea_popescu>	bitesak_ thanks for noticing.
Apr 12 06:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	the fact is this recent price nonsense has been drowning out legitimate bitcoin interest and investment
Apr 12 06:35:21 <mircea_popescu>	in a flood of noobish speculators.
Apr 12 06:35:51 <mircea_popescu>	they have gotten well stung tho, and stinging will continue until people understand that bitcoin is actually useful and actually valuable, not a get rich quick scheme of the week.
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Apr 12 06:37:04 <mircea_popescu>	also from the good news department, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174549.0
Apr 12 06:39:14 <bitesak_>	let's focus on the good and let it grow and appreciate
Apr 12 06:39:35 <Uglux_>	rip gox
Apr 12 06:41:27 <mircea_popescu>	bitesak_ yes. still, it's hard to explain to people the investment virtues of bitcoin
Apr 12 06:41:34 <mircea_popescu>	atop a cacophony of experts a la max keiser.
Apr 12 06:43:39 <bitesak_>	as you said, say the truth no matter the context, just make sure tis the truth
Apr 12 06:44:03 <ZedsterX>	have any of you seen/read this? http://www.infowars.com/bitcoin-crashes-over-50-just-one-day-after-bold-public-prediction-by-mike-adams-of-natural-news/
Apr 12 06:44:35 <Uglux_>	goxlag
Apr 12 06:44:38 <Uglux_>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 06:44:39 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 112.75835 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.225966470895 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 12 06:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX there's about fiddy billion people claiming they called it by now.
Apr 12 06:45:47 <mircea_popescu>	it's how these fringe outfits survive.
Apr 12 06:46:12 <ZedsterX>	watch the vid really read the article try not to be so high and mighty all the time mP
Apr 12 06:47:38 <bitesak_>	am off_
Apr 12 06:47:43 <ZedsterX>	the part about bitcoinbillionaire is the most interesting
Apr 12 06:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX i rarely watch a vid. care to summarize ?
Apr 12 06:49:06 <bitesak_>	"Wednesday’s wild ride came as someone gave away thousands of dollars worth of Bitcoins on Reddit, the social news site. News blog Business Insider calculated a Reddit user under the name “Bitcoinbillionaire” had given away $13,627.69896 worth of Bitcoins to Reddit users over the day."
Apr 12 06:49:38 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: I think it's time for you to invest in CSS
Apr 12 06:50:09 <ZedsterX>	he say BTCbillionnaire was central banks
Apr 12 06:50:37 <mircea_popescu>	so somebody gave away 13k worth of btc on reddit and therefore crash. this is the public statement ?
Apr 12 06:50:54 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat why ?
Apr 12 06:50:58 <ZedsterX>	not the point
Apr 12 06:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	ZedsterX well, so state the point
Apr 12 06:51:15 <Scrat>	because UX matters
Apr 12 06:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	start by stating the point is a great policy anyway.
Apr 12 06:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat certainly. where's css get into ux ?
Apr 12 06:52:06 <Scrat>	by making it more readable? i mean unformatted tables, come on
Apr 12 06:52:16 <troc>	 UX matters to some
Apr 12 06:52:36 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat you have lost your argument here. so, ux matters. here's the ux :
Apr 12 06:52:38 <mircea_popescu>	$mpexlag
Apr 12 06:52:39 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 0.110823869705 seconds
Apr 12 06:52:50 <mircea_popescu>	the other part of ux is the 0.2% sell side only fee.
Apr 12 06:53:02 <mircea_popescu>	that's 1/10 what mtgox charges, for arguably much more service.
Apr 12 06:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	this is ux.
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Apr 12 06:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	gpg signed contracts, that's ux.
Apr 12 06:54:01 <pizzaman1337>	how about instant deposits? That would be nice
Apr 12 06:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	or in other words : ux is for USERS only. there's no suchj thing as vx, visitor experience.
Apr 12 06:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 also unsafe.
Apr 12 06:54:18 <pizzaman1337>	unsafe to accept money coming in?
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Apr 12 06:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	remember the recent hard fork ? i wouldn't trust the current codebase.
Apr 12 06:54:23 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 12 06:54:29 <pizzaman1337>	ah, true
Apr 12 06:54:34 <mircea_popescu>	i'd end up having to cancel trades daily or some shit
Apr 12 06:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	even once a year is too much for people to stomach.
Apr 12 06:54:55 <pizzaman1337>	isn't it easy to monitor for blockchain forks?
Apr 12 06:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	it is impossible to do, because these are emergent phenomena.
Apr 12 06:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	nobody really has a clue what bitcoin code does, and the devs are resisting tooth and nail any attermpt to specify it
Apr 12 06:55:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120 @ 0.00067687 = 0.0812 BTC [+]
Apr 12 06:56:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00319 = 0.0096 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 06:59:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00316043 = 12.6417 BTC [-]
Apr 12 06:59:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00349999 = 3.5 BTC [+]
Apr 12 06:59:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0035 = 2.45 BTC [+]
Apr 12 06:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00373 = 5.595 BTC [+]
Apr 12 06:59:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00373333 = 10.4533 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 07:01:52 <Cylta>	How much did you lose\get, people?
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Apr 12 07:02:07 <mircea_popescu>	this ain't otc, cylta
Apr 12 07:02:56 <Cylta>	mircea_popescu: I just wanted to know, did you able to make it profitable for you, or not =)
Apr 12 07:03:07 <Cylta>	and did you able to predict it or not
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Apr 12 07:03:43 <pizzaman1337>	;;market buy --usd 130000
Apr 12 07:03:44 <gribble>	A market order to buy 130000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would buy 1618.5055 bitcoins and would take the last price up to 82.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 80.3210 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 27.2853 seconds
Apr 12 07:04:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 660 @ 0.00067687 = 0.4467 BTC [+]
Apr 12 07:04:24 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta i take it you've not seen http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege ?
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Apr 12 07:06:10 <pizzaman1337>	;;asks 100
Apr 12 07:06:11 <gribble>	There are currently 11619.268 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1054970.02346 USD in total. | Data vintage: 29.2044 seconds
Apr 12 07:07:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4953 @ 0.00067687 = 3.3525 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 07:11:16 <Cylta1>	mircea_popescu: Okay, so you knew it. Very good, just checking you =)
Apr 12 07:11:20 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Apr 12 07:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	most people knew i would say.
Apr 12 07:11:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe some didn't know they knew. anyway.
Apr 12 07:12:27 <Cylta1>	Some people (actually, a lot) expected that "bitcoin is about to explode!11"
Apr 12 07:13:02 <MJR_>	ugh...when will people learn that stupid systems can't be saved by more hardware
Apr 12 07:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ depends who's people. people with no competence won't develop it magically.
Apr 12 07:13:33 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta1 ya well...
Apr 12 07:13:37 <MJR_>	it is just a retardly simple fix
Apr 12 07:13:55 <MJR_>	but for some reason, they would rather halt trading for 12 hours to set up new servers
Apr 12 07:14:00 <MJR_>	and still not fix the problem
Apr 12 07:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	$goxlag
Apr 12 07:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	...
Apr 12 07:14:43 <MJR_>	$goxlaglag
Apr 12 07:14:46 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 07:14:47 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.38465 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00277482309669 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Apr 12 07:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Apr 12 07:15:11 <MJR_>	it hit 30 seconds like 2 minutes ago
Apr 12 07:15:21 <MJR_>	and its because i see all the bullshit orders coming in and out
Apr 12 07:15:27 <MJR_>	i am streaming their data
Apr 12 07:15:38 <MJR_>	and they just have a ton of orders for .05 btc
Apr 12 07:16:06 <MJR_>	i think it would be way less radical to just change min order size than to shut down for 12 hours
Apr 12 07:16:12 <jurov>	mjr_ did not plan for it and afraid to break it...
Apr 12 07:16:17 <Cylta1>	they should do a stable fee of 0.001 btc per order in addition to 0.6%..
Apr 12 07:16:28 <jurov>	i know this fear firsthand now
Apr 12 07:16:29 <MJR_>	yeah, you could just change fee schedule
Apr 12 07:16:32 <MJR_>	to avoid spam
Apr 12 07:16:56 <MJR_>	anyway, to treat an order for .05 btc the same as one for 100 btc is retarded
Apr 12 07:17:12 <MJR_>	its called toxic order flow
Apr 12 07:17:21 <MJR_>	and IRL they will disable your account
Apr 12 07:17:28 <MJR_>	if you spam orders like that
Apr 12 07:18:06 <jurov>	it's better to have built-in protection in system
Apr 12 07:18:18 <jurov>	than to fix afterwards with fees
Apr 12 07:18:28 <MJR_>	i agree...
Apr 12 07:18:37 <MJR_>	you could implement a system in a ton of different ways
Apr 12 07:18:40 <MJR_>	prioritze by size
Apr 12 07:18:49 <MJR_>	higher fees for lower size
Apr 12 07:18:54 <MJR_>	block lower size completely
Apr 12 07:18:59 <MJR_>	etc...
Apr 12 07:19:09 <MJR_>	any one of those would prob reduce their stress by 90%
Apr 12 07:19:16 <jurov>	no. i just did it so that one user can't place two orders at once. has to wait  for the first one to return from mpex
Apr 12 07:19:19 <MJR_>	instead of "everyone stop for 12 hours"
Apr 12 07:19:29 <MJR_>	i was talking about gox
Apr 12 07:19:30 <troc>	limit it to n orders per x ?
Apr 12 07:19:37 <MJR_>	there you go
Apr 12 07:19:41 <MJR_>	that would work too
Apr 12 07:19:52 <MJR_>	any of those systems would be better than bringing up another server
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Apr 12 07:20:38 <MJR_>	not that its bad to bring up more servers...but if you have a stupid unscalable system in place, it really doesn't matter how much more hardware you have
Apr 12 07:20:49 <jurov>	heck, even theymos can't be brought to spend to improve the forum
Apr 12 07:20:51 <MJR_>	unless you can grow your hardware exponentially i suppose
Apr 12 07:21:12 <jurov>	it's just they found themselves in dark place and feel too paralyzed about everything
Apr 12 07:21:13 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yea isn't that interesting ? only forum in the world that had 1mn usd at any point
Apr 12 07:21:19 <jurov>	no help there, i guess
Apr 12 07:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	heh. ui think you're exactly correct.
Apr 12 07:21:25 <MJR_>	i'm also surprised that more people don't just use amazon cloud
Apr 12 07:21:57 <MJR_>	i really wonder what their office was like today
Apr 12 07:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	fast food and whatever
Apr 12 07:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	didn't the guy put pix up ?
Apr 12 07:22:20 <MJR_>	i've really been curious about the ACTUAL volume they do # of transactions
Apr 12 07:22:24 <MJR_>	not # of bitcoins
Apr 12 07:22:35 <MJR_>	yeah i saw the pizza photo
Apr 12 07:25:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14237 @ 0.00069911 = 9.9532 BTC [+]
Apr 12 07:25:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11696 @ 0.00069963 = 8.1829 BTC [+]
Apr 12 07:27:24 <MJR_>	they should look at 0MQ or something like that
Apr 12 07:27:25 <MJR_>	:)
Apr 12 07:28:00 <MJR_>	my friend and coworker just designed his optimized version of that, which outperforms it...i think he gets 350k messages per second...
Apr 12 07:28:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7589 = 1.5178 BTC [-]
Apr 12 07:29:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.759 = 3.036 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 07:33:41 <gesell>	https://status.bitfloor.com/
Apr 12 07:34:53 <gesell>	bifloor, please keep in mind that most of the community today is filled with speculators that dont give a fuck, and also there are plenty of entities that actually want bitcoin to fail. Get your security house in order!
Apr 12 07:35:44 <gesell>	there are still 0 whales on the bids book and plenty on the asks
Apr 12 07:36:11 <pigeons>	has anybody actually seen tiberiusiv and EskimoBob together at the same time?
Apr 12 07:36:37 <gesell>	i really wonder if the bid whales really chose to wait it out while holding so much btc at risk
Apr 12 07:36:56 <gesell>	why would they do that. maybe they have way more in fiat
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Apr 12 07:38:57 <MJR_>	good point
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Apr 12 07:42:24 <ZedsterX>	50 will be the magic number
Apr 12 07:42:36 <ZedsterX>	wrong window
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Apr 12 07:42:41 <gesell>	i love how the 111111 btc addr has become a bilboard for others to send 0.001 btc to have their own scam advertised http://blockchain.info/address/1933phfhK3ZgFQNLGSDXvqCn32k2buXY8a
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Apr 12 07:45:33 <pgp>	morning all - what is consensus on gox's "new server"  was lag any better overnight?
Apr 12 07:46:25 <gesell>	lag has been in the 0 to 8 second range for the past 20 min or so
Apr 12 07:46:39 <gesell>	but tehn again, probably not as much volume or
Apr 12 07:47:00 <MJR_>	i saw 30 seconds
Apr 12 07:47:05 <MJR_>	just 15 min ago
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Apr 12 07:47:38 <MJR_>	pgp: did you test the data? i emailed you the link, wanna see if it'll work right out of the box on your machine
Apr 12 07:47:58 <pgp>	well, i get the feeling that volume will start to pick up as it continues to drift lower here...
Apr 12 07:48:13 <pgp>	crazy action last night, though...
Apr 12 07:48:17 <MJR_>	well, cnbc reported $65...it was at 80 at the time
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Apr 12 07:50:30 <pgp>	wall at 76 is going to disappear fast imho
Apr 12 07:50:48 <pgp>	gone
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Apr 12 07:51:36 <taub>	bids getting hosed
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Apr 12 07:52:58 <taub>	in before another cooldown
Apr 12 07:53:31 <pgp>	get back into the bunker, boys...
Apr 12 07:53:48 <pgp>	buy @ $32
Apr 12 07:54:16 <taub>	i feel so bad for everyone who bought 200+
Apr 12 07:54:20 <taub>	or even 100+
Apr 12 07:54:34 <taub>	btce chat full with sob stories of people who are now broke
Apr 12 07:54:42 <KRS1>	lol
Apr 12 07:54:52 <KRS1>	i dun feel bad
Apr 12 07:55:12 <Cylta1>	 taub: it was their fault, not your
Apr 12 07:55:18 <Cylta1>	 taub: they simple were too greedy.
Apr 12 07:55:27 <taub>	i know, i still feel bad for them :)
Apr 12 07:55:32 <KRS1>	greed fuels a purchase at $200+ for a financial instrument that rose so quickly
Apr 12 07:56:16 <KRS1>	its going down to $32? damn
Apr 12 07:56:19 <KRS1>	heh
Apr 12 07:56:28 <pgp>	tulips, baby, tulips...
Apr 12 07:56:52 <taub>	i got buy orders along the way
Apr 12 07:56:53 <taub>	:)
Apr 12 07:57:21 <pgp>	definately going below 50 today, i think...
Apr 12 07:57:22 <MJR_>	if you redraw the six month chart...and connect this point to the prior 6 months, it looks like a nice steady growth
Apr 12 07:57:35 <pgp>	mjr: yes
Apr 12 07:58:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.759 = 18.975 BTC [+]
Apr 12 07:58:04 <taub>	all those huge sell orders, thenn the cute 1btc buy inbetween lol
Apr 12 07:58:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.759 = 13.662 BTC [+]
Apr 12 07:58:12 <pgp>	so, gox *seems* better, no?
Apr 12 07:58:16 <taub>	pop pop watching prices drop
Apr 12 07:58:21 <taub>	yea it lags consideribly less
Apr 12 07:58:54 <pgp>	70 going going...
Apr 12 07:59:04 <taub>	about 2k+ coins dumped on 70 just now
Apr 12 07:59:17 <pgp>	gone
Apr 12 07:59:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7605 BTC [+]
Apr 12 08:00:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7609 BTC [+]
Apr 12 08:00:12 <pgp>	i think that they've improved lag by an order of magnitude it seems to me...  that was a lot of coin that just went off
Apr 12 08:00:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7609 BTC [+]
Apr 12 08:00:26 <pgp>	normally we'd be at 500 sec lag or more
Apr 12 08:00:32 <taub>	yep
Apr 12 08:00:33 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 08:00:34 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 35.184033 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0705084081919 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
Apr 12 08:00:36 <KRS1>	so $32 is not going to happen?
Apr 12 08:00:45 <gesell>	(13:54:29) MagicalTux: [20:53:00] <gesell> MagicalTux: have someone give a road plan for how the issues with dos via small orders is going to be dealt with in the long term <- new trade engine won't have any issue handling that
Apr 12 08:00:54 <pgp>	it'll happen
Apr 12 08:01:05 <pgp>	first stop 50
Apr 12 08:01:14 <KRS1>	damn when will we see the bottom
Apr 12 08:01:23 <gesell>	(13:55:28) gesell: MagicalTux: do you guys recalculate the fee bracket after every single trade? If so I would recommend tampering this somehow because thats added computation that could be leveraged in a direct dos (small orders)
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Apr 12 08:01:24 <gesell>	(13:57:25) MagicalTux: gesell: we're already throtteling
Apr 12 08:01:43 <KRS1>	the graphs tell me steady, healthy increase like mjr said but not tulip
Apr 12 08:02:09 <pgp>	joking about the tulips...
Apr 12 08:02:15 <KRS1>	lol ok
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Apr 12 08:03:20 <pgp>	good thing about drops like this if that it soes flush out the noobs and puts coins back into strong hands (i hope)
Apr 12 08:03:32 <gesell>	mjr_ this type of analysis doesnt apply here sadly because much of the crash is simply from technical glitches
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Apr 12 08:04:58 <ChaangNoi>	lol at the ticker
Apr 12 08:05:01 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 12 08:05:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.00000, Best ask: 67.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 67.00000, 24 hour volume: 280761.33688409, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 163.44100, 24 hour vwap: 94.84470
Apr 12 08:05:16 <ChaangNoi>	will be get back to 20?
Apr 12 08:05:22 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 08:05:22 <gribble>	There are currently 46813366 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9022428.38588 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.6342 seconds
Apr 12 08:05:42 <Diablo-D3>	ChaangNoi: I predicted $50 before $500
Apr 12 08:05:51 <Diablo-D3>	I guess its coming out that Im right
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Apr 12 08:06:05 <ChaangNoi>	if you made that call at $45 good job :)
Apr 12 08:06:10 <pgp>	I was talking to a VC the other night ($230) who was bragging about *almost* being a bitcoin millionaire - bought in around 85 - I'll bet he feels like a douche bag now
Apr 12 08:06:26 <Diablo-D3>	ChaangNoi: well Ive been saying it since we started heading up to $100 the first time
Apr 12 08:06:30 <alex12>	anyone heard of this? : http://primeasic.com/index.html
Apr 12 08:06:34 <pigeons>	wow everyone i talk to is always totaly right with their market predictions, everyone must be rich
Apr 12 08:06:35 <KRS1>	whats funny is- i'm way better off than I was when the price was this low last time lol
Apr 12 08:06:43 <Diablo-D3>	ChaangNoi: I think mp was agreeing with me at the time too
Apr 12 08:06:47 <ChaangNoi>	lol yeah calling $50 before $500 when at $20 is a pretty safe call
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Apr 12 08:07:48 <ChaangNoi>	pigeons i thought we would get close to $500. i was wrong, but i still slowly sold a few percent ever $50 so im fine for a few years of living in fiat
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Apr 12 08:08:11 <pgp>	alex12: looks like scam to me
Apr 12 08:08:26 <ChaangNoi>	still if anyone told you that at jan 1st we would be at $60 in april would you have belived them? :)
Apr 12 08:08:37 <ChaangNoi>	prime asic is a scam lol
Apr 12 08:08:39 <alex12>	pgp: picks look interested ...
Apr 12 08:08:44 <alex12>	s/ed/ing/
Apr 12 08:08:50 <alex12>	yeah ...
Apr 12 08:08:54 <KRS1>	lol
Apr 12 08:08:58 <pigeons>	i have more btc than i did 2 days ago, and thats what counts to me
Apr 12 08:09:09 <gesell>	pigeons: agreed
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Apr 12 08:09:51 <ChaangNoi>	i was all in btc before the rally
Apr 12 08:09:55 <Scrat>	;;ticker --last
Apr 12 08:09:56 <gribble>	66.00000
Apr 12 08:10:01 <alex12>	is asicminet.pt mining yet?
Apr 12 08:10:01 <ChaangNoi>	i had no more fiat left
Apr 12 08:10:02 <gesell>	bitcoin-24 down
Apr 12 08:10:16 <ChaangNoi>	i was selling my limited gold.silver to live
Apr 12 08:10:31 <Diablo-D3>	ChaangNoi: btw, no, I was saying we'd drop to $50 before we'd go to $500
Apr 12 08:10:35 <ChaangNoi>	i can now last foe 2 more years, sad to admit it, but i did sel btc
Apr 12 08:10:38 <Diablo-D3>	ChaangNoi: and I kept saying it the higher we went
Apr 12 08:10:44 <Diablo-D3>	I never expected we'd reach $26x
Apr 12 08:10:51 <ChaangNoi>	d3 im just messing with ya:)
Apr 12 08:10:51 <pigeons>	yeah i sell btc too when i need to buy something
Apr 12 08:11:03 <ChaangNoi>	got a family to support
Apr 12 08:11:42 <ChaangNoi>	but we are yet to hit 50, we might not make it, will be interesting next week
Apr 12 08:12:05 <ChaangNoi>	the thing is, buying at $60 is so much better than buying at $260, and i sold at $260...
Apr 12 08:12:26 <taub>	rofl
Apr 12 08:12:27 <pigeons>	that's the way to do it :)
Apr 12 08:12:29 <taub>	bitcoinity
Apr 12 08:12:38 <taub>	dancing chicken with caption "I REGRET NOTHING"
Apr 12 08:12:39 <ChaangNoi>	lol at chicken on bitcoinity
Apr 12 08:12:44 <pgp>	funny
Apr 12 08:13:03 <pgp>	he does some entaining stuff with the site
Apr 12 08:13:09 <pgp>	entertaining
Apr 12 08:13:10 <ChaangNoi>	yeah, i like it a lot
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Apr 12 08:13:33 <ChaangNoi>	5k wall at 65
Apr 12 08:13:45 <pgp>	you ever see the big picture of his face smiling at you with the bitcoin address under it...
Apr 12 08:13:59 <ChaangNoi>	nope
Apr 12 08:14:15 <ChaangNoi>	i was the first to donate to him
Apr 12 08:14:25 <ChaangNoi>	he has the address on the lower right
Apr 12 08:15:04 <pgp>	it's the best site of it's kind...
Apr 12 08:15:38 <ChaangNoi>	and most of the time it works
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Apr 12 08:16:24 <ChaangNoi>	lol there goes 65
Apr 12 08:16:45 <ChaangNoi>	did someone sell into that wall?
Apr 12 08:17:04 <pgp>	interesting that there really aren't any ask walls...  it's just a ton of market sell orders
Apr 12 08:17:12 <pgp>	unrelenting
Apr 12 08:17:34 <ChaangNoi>	yeah
Apr 12 08:17:42 <ChaangNoi>	kinda wonder if it was pump and dump all along
Apr 12 08:18:09 <pgp>	and nice to see happen in plain old slow motion...  instead of slow, slow, super slow motion...
Apr 12 08:18:11 <ChaangNoi>	someone just bought a massive amount at 65
Apr 12 08:18:36 <pgp>	conspiracy theory are already circulating...
Apr 12 08:18:49 <pgp>	mjr - what were you saying last night about this?
Apr 12 08:20:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00069424 = 7.0465 BTC [-]
Apr 12 08:20:49 <ChaangNoi>	im honestly shocked people have this many coins to sell
Apr 12 08:22:24 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 50
Apr 12 08:22:24 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1.2933 seconds
Apr 12 08:22:27 <pgp>	maybe these guys are selling: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/11/winklevoss-bitcoin_n_3063831.html
Apr 12 08:22:28 <ChaangNoi>	;;bids 50
Apr 12 08:22:28 <gribble>	There are currently 30010.715 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 1648930.43267 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.7436 seconds
Apr 12 08:22:35 <ChaangNoi>	pgp doubt it
Apr 12 08:22:50 <ChaangNoi>	;;bids 50.0001
Apr 12 08:22:51 <gribble>	There are currently 22950.793 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0001 USD, worth 1295934.3161 USD in total. | Data vintage: 27.9335 seconds
Apr 12 08:23:11 <MJR_>	pgp: huh?
Apr 12 08:23:41 <MJR_>	i liked the insanity wolf image macro
Apr 12 08:23:43 <pgp>	mjr - what you were saying last night about orchestrated selling
Apr 12 08:23:52 <ChaangNoi>	my bitcoinity now shows a low of 60? wtf?
Apr 12 08:23:58 <pgp>	yep
Apr 12 08:23:59 <Scrat>	massive dumps and goxlag
Apr 12 08:24:05 <pgp>	60 gone
Apr 12 08:24:08 <MJR_>	http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3tsbo3/
Apr 12 08:24:15 <pgp>	there goes the neighborhood
Apr 12 08:24:21 <farfi>	almost time to buy :)
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Apr 12 08:24:36 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 08:24:37 <gribble>	89.99
Apr 12 08:24:39 <pigeons>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sFhgfA1G2Uw
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Apr 12 08:25:53 <ChaangNoi>	;;ticker
Apr 12 08:25:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.12120, Best ask: 58.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.87880, Last trade: 57.12120, 24 hour volume: 313449.17648717, 24 hour low: 58.00000, 24 hour high: 158.27517, 24 hour vwap: 91.00931
Apr 12 08:25:58 <pgp>	pigeons - funny!
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Apr 12 08:29:00 <pgp>	i wonder what going on with the exante folks right now...
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Apr 12 08:33:11 <pgp>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 08:33:11 <gribble>	There are currently 46973788 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 7417988.25877 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.1237 seconds
Apr 12 08:33:23 <gesell>	pgp: getting lots of free BJ's from max keiser
Apr 12 08:33:26 <gesell>	im sure
Apr 12 08:33:33 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 12 08:33:33 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 08:34:02 <MJR_>	short at 56.30 :)
Apr 12 08:34:18 <pgp>	a lot of coin sold in last half hour
Apr 12 08:34:27 <pgp>	80k?
Apr 12 08:34:43 <ChaangNoi>	yeah, insane
Apr 12 08:35:06 <KRS1>	gonna stop at 56?
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Apr 12 08:35:15 <KRS1>	no $30? lol anyone seen the order books
Apr 12 08:35:25 <ChaangNoi>	64 again lol
Apr 12 08:35:46 <ChaangNoi>	these guys can only sell so many coins, they cant naked short like they do with silver
Apr 12 08:36:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P089T] 1 @ 1.50413736 BTC [+]
Apr 12 08:37:38 <pgp>	can't go *straight* down...   but these feels like a dead cat bounce...  the guys bying 80 an hour ago will take the opportunity to sell...
Apr 12 08:37:42 <Scrat>	we think we should not be angry at gox, but instead be thanking it
Apr 12 08:37:51 <Scrat>	for allowing natural selection to continue
Apr 12 08:38:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P089T] 5 @ 1.78 = 8.9 BTC [+]
Apr 12 08:38:19 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 08:38:35 <pgp>	social darwinism at its best
Apr 12 08:39:39 <pgp>	problem with crashes is that at so many points along the way, it looks like a buy, but it's not...
Apr 12 08:40:18 <joecool>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 08:40:23 <joecool>	lollll
Apr 12 08:40:24 <TomServo>	aaand it's dead
Apr 12 08:40:24 <deadweasel>	lol yeah, poor bugpowder, bought all the way down... :(
Apr 12 08:40:27 <joecool>	again
Apr 12 08:41:00 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 12 08:41:20 <joecool>	^^ lol
Apr 12 08:41:27 <Scrat>	new 50x machine is so fast it accidentally traded with the future causing a casuality violation
Apr 12 08:41:54 <Scrat>	causality*
Apr 12 08:42:01 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 08:42:30 <farfi>	does thatmean the coins evaporate?
Apr 12 08:43:03 <pgp>	I think they turn in Magic: the gathering playing cards...
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Apr 12 08:43:12 <alex12>	when is asicminer.pt going to kick in with thier asic's?
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Apr 12 08:43:33 <alex12>	10TH/d s ++ is what im reading - this true?
Apr 12 08:43:48 <alex12>	10TH/s ++
Apr 12 08:44:22 <MJR_>	lag is over 200 seconds now
Apr 12 08:44:23 <MJR_>	;;goxloag
Apr 12 08:44:24 <gribble>	Error: "goxloag" is not a valid command.
Apr 12 08:44:27 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 08:44:33 <taub>	gox'd
Apr 12 08:44:36 <pgp>	wow - gox is dead in the water - again...
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Apr 12 08:44:39 <MJR_>	;;goxlaglag
Apr 12 08:44:40 <gribble>	Error: "goxlaglag" is not a valid command.
Apr 12 08:44:44 <MJR_>	LOL
Apr 12 08:44:50 <MJR_>	sure it's not gribble
Apr 12 08:46:21 <pgp>	looks like we have to russian again for price discovery...
Apr 12 08:46:22 <thestringman>	;;seen smickles
Apr 12 08:46:23 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 21 hours, 3 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 12 08:46:28 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
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Apr 12 08:47:18 <KRS1>	;;gribble  wtf man
Apr 12 08:47:19 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Apr 12 08:47:23 <KRS1>	sorry
Apr 12 08:47:26 <Scrat>	back to the trollbox everyone
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Apr 12 08:49:50 <gesell>	;;ticker
Apr 12 08:49:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.00001, Best ask: 69.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.99999, Last trade: 67.00001, 24 hour volume: 329726.38134032, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 149.00000, 24 hour vwap: 88.67769
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Apr 12 08:50:42 <ChaangNoi>	70
Apr 12 08:50:55 <alex12>	;;help
Apr 12 08:50:56 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Apr 12 08:51:01 <alex12>	!help
Apr 12 08:51:02 <assbot>	List of commands:
Apr 12 08:51:03 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
Apr 12 08:51:04 <assbot>	!last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
Apr 12 08:51:05 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Apr 12 08:51:06 <assbot>	!rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
Apr 12 08:51:07 <assbot>	!exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
Apr 12 08:51:09 <alex12>	uh oh
Apr 12 08:51:11 <ChaangNoi>	lol
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Apr 12 08:52:40 <ChaangNoi>	Am is back up, to normal price nice
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Apr 12 08:54:44 <ChaangNoi>	btc = 78
Apr 12 08:54:50 <ChaangNoi>	what acrazy roller coaster
Apr 12 08:56:21 <pgp>	going up on light volume - just wait
Apr 12 08:57:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7252 BTC [-]
Apr 12 08:57:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7251 BTC [-]
Apr 12 08:57:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.725 BTC [-]
Apr 12 08:57:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.721 BTC [-]
Apr 12 08:57:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7201 BTC [-]
Apr 12 08:57:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.72 = 2.16 BTC [-]
Apr 12 08:57:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.71 = 2.13 BTC [-]
Apr 12 08:58:12 <ChaangNoi>	will be interesting to see it eat the wall at 80, was 5k
Apr 12 08:58:56 <pgp>	i agree that would be convincing...
Apr 12 08:59:08 <pgp>	still think more selling to come
Apr 12 08:59:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.70111 BTC [-]
Apr 12 09:00:33 <damientrog>	what no more put options available?! :)
Apr 12 09:00:52 <KRS1>	i'm with you pgp
Apr 12 09:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36599939 BTC [+]
Apr 12 09:02:29 <pgp>	;;bids 60
Apr 12 09:02:31 <gribble>	There are currently 11347.452 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.0 USD, worth 692876.202568 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0033 seconds
Apr 12 09:02:41 <KRS1>	;;asks 60
Apr 12 09:02:41 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.2119 seconds
Apr 12 09:02:52 <KRS1>	huh
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Apr 12 09:03:56 <pgp>	rope a dope
Apr 12 09:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36599939 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 09:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.397 = 0.794 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 09:10:58 <MJR_>	 bitfinex can be lame
Apr 12 09:11:02 <MJR_>	their book is so thin
Apr 12 09:11:11 <MJR_>	that when they all of a sudden announce "no gox routing"
Apr 12 09:11:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 180 @ 0.00069963 = 0.1259 BTC [+]
Apr 12 09:11:19 <MJR_>	your position changes dramatically
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Apr 12 09:12:10 <kakobrekla>	you accually use that site ?
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Apr 12 09:13:19 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 12 09:13:19 <gribble>	66225.2957147
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Apr 12 09:16:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 12 09:16:55 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 9061123.52326 based on data since last change | 9251425.76873 based on data for last three days
Apr 12 09:18:08 <MJR_>	wonder whats going in miners world
Apr 12 09:19:14 <ThickAsThieves>	lets hope the keep it together
Apr 12 09:19:18 <ThickAsThieves>	and stick with the plan
Apr 12 09:19:22 <joecool>	minin errday
Apr 12 09:19:39 <ThickAsThieves>	mining is a foundation factor in btc price
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Apr 12 09:21:14 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 12 09:21:22 <MJR_>	but the price is changing profitability numbers
Apr 12 09:21:33 <MJR_>	and exchanges fucking up is hurting their liquidity
Apr 12 09:21:55 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 80
Apr 12 09:22:22 <gribble>	There are currently 7586.0915 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 574725.436367 USD in total. | Data vintage: 243.1423 seconds
Apr 12 09:22:26 <pgp>	gox dead?
Apr 12 09:23:04 <ThickAsThieves>	ya
Apr 12 09:23:27 <ThickAsThieves>	back
Apr 12 09:25:08 <tiberiusiv>	well bitcoin ended in tears as predicted
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Apr 12 09:25:27 <tiberiusiv>	highly unlikely 200 is seen again in 2013
Apr 12 09:25:29 <ThickAsThieves>	meanwhile people still betting away at sdice
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Apr 12 09:26:38 <tiberiusiv>	i wonder if jurov committed suicide
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Apr 12 09:27:23 <tiberiusiv>	well sdice is back to being affordable to play
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Apr 12 09:28:34 <pgp>	lol
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Apr 12 09:28:47 <lippoper1>	lol
Apr 12 09:29:00 <lippoper1>	tiberiusiv, where will the price stabilize?
Apr 12 09:29:18 <pgp>	not here
Apr 12 09:29:27 <lippoper1>	in Japan?
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Apr 12 09:29:48 <pgp>	bitfloor looks like it's down again...
Apr 12 09:29:53 <lippoper1>	Strap your seatbelts, we're going down again, sell off
Apr 12 09:30:16 <pgp>	yep
Apr 12 09:31:22 <KRS1>	lipppppPOP
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Apr 12 09:31:42 <taub>	wow all exchanges down
Apr 12 09:31:44 <tiberiusiv>	loppoper1: unfortunately its difficult to tell
Apr 12 09:31:45 <KRS1>	;;gribble where will the price stabilize?
Apr 12 09:31:45 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Apr 12 09:31:55 <KRS1>	hasnt had his coffee yet?
Apr 12 09:32:03 <tiberiusiv>	jurov was putting his paycheck into bitcoin every week
Apr 12 09:32:13 <tiberiusiv>	said if it goes down he waits for it to come back up
Apr 12 09:32:17 <tiberiusiv>	wonder how that worked out for him now
Apr 12 09:32:24 <joecool>	:-\
Apr 12 09:32:26 <taub>	depends when he started buying
Apr 12 09:32:27 <tiberiusiv>	moron.
Apr 12 09:32:29 <joecool>	he prob dyde
Apr 12 09:33:20 <joecool>	well at worst, he's probably fucked himself on 3 or 4 paychecks only
Apr 12 09:33:33 <joecool>	considering timeframes and where price is
Apr 12 09:33:50 <tiberiusiv>	he wasnt very bright
Apr 12 09:34:05 <tiberiusiv>	got all upset after i said you shouldnt put immediate $ needs into bitcoin
Apr 12 09:34:16 <joecool>	my last major buy in was at $30 so i'm ok with prices being where they're at
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Apr 12 09:34:33 <joecool>	my target was ~$70
Apr 12 09:34:33 <tiberiusiv>	most are sitting on large losses now
Apr 12 09:34:46 <joecool>	then everyone got crazy
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Apr 12 09:35:06 <tiberiusiv>	well the bulls in here were off the charts
Apr 12 09:35:18 <joecool>	i did sell a bit at $140 and again at $240, so at this point i could have it drop to 0 and not care
Apr 12 09:36:37 <tiberiusiv>	the party has ended
Apr 12 09:36:43 <tiberiusiv>	!seen jurov
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Apr 12 09:36:53 <tiberiusiv>	??seen jurov
Apr 12 09:37:14 <lippoper1>	party is over
Apr 12 09:37:26 <lippoper1>	surprised it's stabilising at ~70
Apr 12 09:39:24 <tiberiusiv>	i dont know why people keep linking exchanges being down to price declines
Apr 12 09:39:38 <tiberiusiv>	the herd try to exit all at once
Apr 12 09:39:42 <tiberiusiv>	tried*
Apr 12 09:39:46 <tiberiusiv>	has nothing to do with the exchange
Apr 12 09:40:10 <kakobrekla>	;;seen jurov
Apr 12 09:40:10 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <jurov> no help there, i guess
Apr 12 09:40:47 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 12 09:40:52 <tiberiusiv>	poor jurov
Apr 12 09:40:55 <lippoper1>	so
Apr 12 09:41:03 <lippoper1>	if there are no bids, the price must rise or drop?
Apr 12 09:41:11 <tiberiusiv>	drop
Apr 12 09:41:15 <tiberiusiv>	duh.
Apr 12 09:41:25 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 12 09:41:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.97336, Best ask: 70.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02664, Last trade: 70.00000, 24 hour volume: 336060.23220623, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 85.28347
Apr 12 09:41:27 <lippoper1>	that's what I thought too, but I've seen weirder between yesterday and today
Apr 12 09:41:46 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 100
Apr 12 09:41:48 <gribble>	There are currently 16889.34 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1435165.93254 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
Apr 12 09:41:59 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 12 09:42:00 <gribble>	There are currently 34051.827 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 1939351.7359 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.6362 seconds
Apr 12 09:42:22 <lippoper1>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 09:42:24 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 60.589218 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.121420114481 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 12 09:42:36 <lippoper1>	gox is lagged, that means price will drop
Apr 12 09:42:38 <lippoper1>	lol
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Apr 12 09:44:45 <tiberiusiv>	reddit suicide's were probably high
Apr 12 09:45:03 <lippoper1>	it's gearing up for a drop right now
Apr 12 09:45:20 <lippoper1>	would you agree tiberius?
Apr 12 09:45:29 <tiberiusiv>	i dont know
Apr 12 09:45:36 <tiberiusiv>	i dont make forecasts by the minute
Apr 12 09:45:55 <lippoper1>	hehe
Apr 12 09:46:22 <KRS1>	;;asks 67
Apr 12 09:46:25 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 67.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds
Apr 12 09:51:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00069424 = 4.8597 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 10:00:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7549 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 10:01:26 <thestringdude>	;;seen mod6
Apr 12 10:01:27 <gribble>	mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 hours, 27 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <mod6> http://youtu.be/wzQM-tLIz9M << music my gf humms to me when i tell her that gox has gone down
Apr 12 10:01:41 <pizzaman1337>	heh, btc-e is using cloudflare now
Apr 12 10:01:41 <thestringdude>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 10:01:42 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.256375 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00251776143292 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Earth to Moon (0.00257 AU).
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Apr 12 10:02:06 <thestringdude>	All cheap coins just got bought up
Apr 12 10:02:13 <thestringdude>	Boooo
Apr 12 10:02:44 <ThickAsThieves>	now would be a great time for someone to click the Buy $1m button a few times
Apr 12 10:03:21 <ThickAsThieves>	downtrend finally broke
Apr 12 10:03:57 <thestringdude>	Does anyone still do business with smickles?
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Apr 12 10:04:02 <thestringdude>	;;seeb smickles
Apr 12 10:04:03 <gribble>	Error: "seeb" is not a valid command.
Apr 12 10:04:12 <thestringdude>	;;seen smickles
Apr 12 10:04:13 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 22 hours, 21 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 12 10:04:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont even know what business he does
Apr 12 10:04:19 <thestringdude>	:O
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Apr 12 10:04:37 <joecool>	;;last
Apr 12 10:04:37 <gribble>	[08:04:18] <thestringdude> :O
Apr 12 10:04:44 <alex12>	when all the ASIC's land from avalon, what would the expected difficulty be?
Apr 12 10:05:05 <joecool>	ask BCB, i told him to keep shining a crystal ball
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Apr 12 10:05:34 <Cylta>	alex12: avalon hash power * amount of avalons + current hashrate.
Apr 12 10:05:43 <thestringdude>	:( he is a broker but sometimes takes unexpected leave. He is probably profiting on the volatility.
Apr 12 10:05:55 <thestringdude>	But I am locked from my account.
Apr 12 10:05:57 <thestringdude>	Lol
Apr 12 10:06:16 <thestringdude>	;;ticker
Apr 12 10:06:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 81.60000, Best ask: 82.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 81.60000, 24 hour volume: 344493.53429010, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 84.08093
Apr 12 10:06:35 <thestringdude>	;;asks 83
Apr 12 10:06:36 <gribble>	There are currently 2212.4906 bitcoins offered at or under 83.0 USD, worth 178085.831235 USD in total. | Data vintage: 110.5263 seconds
Apr 12 10:06:46 <thestringdude>	;;bids 80
Apr 12 10:06:48 <gribble>	There are currently 116.80199 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 9344.15952 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0071 seconds
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Apr 12 10:08:46 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 12 10:08:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.00000, Best ask: 80.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 80.00000, 24 hour volume: 345297.93796984, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.99958
Apr 12 10:09:08 <thestringdude>	;;ticker
Apr 12 10:09:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.00000, Best ask: 80.63032, Bid-ask spread: 0.63032, Last trade: 80.63032, 24 hour volume: 345297.93796984, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.99958
Apr 12 10:09:56 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 100
Apr 12 10:09:57 <jurov>	thestringdude, maybe you're using wrong broker then :P
Apr 12 10:09:59 <gribble>	There are currently 9890.3521 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 918182.560604 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0026 seconds
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Apr 12 10:11:26 <thestringdude>	Am I jurov? As I recall you charge 1.3 btc a year :P i guess in consideration, that = 1 mpex account in about 20 years
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Apr 12 10:11:37 <thestringdude>	Okay perhaps we shall talk soon.
Apr 12 10:11:48 <thestringdude>	:P
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Apr 12 10:12:23 <thestringdude>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 12 10:12:25 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.90251552 / 218.88143499 / 226.22012381 (14550 shares, 2,478.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Apr 12 10:12:33 <thestringdude>	The bulls will wake up soon
Apr 12 10:12:45 <thestringdude>	Damn.
Apr 12 10:13:10 <thestringdude>	smickles cyprus'ed me
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Apr 12 10:14:00 <thestringdude>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 12 10:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067363 / 0.00069461 / 0.00071795 (397326 shares, 275.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00068844 / 0.00071795 (1922595 shares, 1,323.61 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068816 / 0.00077505 (9962088 shares, 6,855.60 BTC)
Apr 12 10:14:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00386 = 0.0425 BTC [+]
Apr 12 10:14:25 <thestringdude>	!ticker h him
Apr 12 10:14:26 <jurov>	lol dunno how much mircea will be asking in 20 years
Apr 12 10:14:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.20000000 / 1.3574 / 1.65000000 (50 shares, 67.87000000 BTC), 7D: 0.75000001 / 1.46804495 / 1.93000000 (287 shares, 421.32890011 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.73321281 / 2.08000000 (812 shares, 1407.36880041 BTC)
Apr 12 10:14:38 <thestringdude>	Exactlt
Apr 12 10:14:48 <thestringdude>	Which is why we will talk
Apr 12 10:14:55 <thestringdude>	;;getrating jurov
Apr 12 10:14:55 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User jurov, rated since Fri Jan 20 16:16:32 2012. Cumulative rating 14, from 16 total ratings. Received ratings: 15 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 10 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jurov
Apr 12 10:15:48 <thestringdude>	Why is there no message for smickles rating of you?
Apr 12 10:15:50 <jurov>	um, i should prolly ask rating on every withdrawal like mp does
Apr 12 10:16:03 <jurov>	oh, he was out of words
Apr 12 10:16:14 <thestringdude>	Yeah your withdrawal fees are too high
Apr 12 10:16:22 <thestringdude>	.01  da fuuuuuq?
Apr 12 10:16:43 <thestringdude>	My roaming ATM charges less :P
Apr 12 10:16:47 <jurov>	it's not wallet, ya know
Apr 12 10:16:50 <jurov>	nor atm
Apr 12 10:17:01 <ThickAsThieves>	string, why not get your own account?
Apr 12 10:17:08 <thestringdude>	But also .01 transfer yo
Apr 12 10:17:17 <thestringdude>	I was working on that
Apr 12 10:17:24 <ThickAsThieves>	ive been in this chan for like 4 mos, and smickles was absent most of it
Apr 12 10:17:24 <thestringdude>	Usagi owes me 18 coin
Apr 12 10:17:53 <thestringdude>	Smickles has 3.71 of it paid out plus another 10
Apr 12 10:18:05 <ThickAsThieves>	guy seems great, but i dunno why youd want a broker that was rarely around
Apr 12 10:18:12 <joecool>	lol
Apr 12 10:18:29 <thestringdude>	He used to be around all the time
Apr 12 10:18:44 <ThickAsThieves>	how many mos need to pass for you to change your outlook?
Apr 12 10:18:57 <ThickAsThieves>	he hasnt even had his baby yet
Apr 12 10:19:09 <thestringdude>	Sends monthly statements and was around to capture options instantly like Bugpowder sometimes does for me.
Apr 12 10:19:09 <ThickAsThieves>	sry i dont mean to berate you
Apr 12 10:19:16 <ThickAsThieves>	just feel bad
Apr 12 10:19:22 <thestringdude>	Um he is highly rated.
Apr 12 10:19:36 <thestringdude>	Its just he has been playing too much kerbal space program...
Apr 12 10:19:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i didnt argue that
Apr 12 10:19:58 <thestringdude>	Its as addictive as btc
Apr 12 10:20:41 <ThickAsThieves>	btc is more adictive than any game i ever got stuck on, so i'm not even gonna google kerbal
Apr 12 10:20:42 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 12 10:20:46 <unbalanced>	jurov's wd fee is 0.1 BTC, no? Not the end of the world as I agree it's not a wallet, not meant for penny (er, satoshi) pinching arb trades.
Apr 12 10:21:09 <unbalanced>	Addictive as hell, agreed
Apr 12 10:21:13 <jurov>	yes 0.1
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Apr 12 10:22:22 <unbalanced>	Do you have minimum account sizes? I guess not since a user can 0 the account to put it on hold.
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Apr 12 10:22:54 <jurov>	only on beginning you have to deposit 1 BTC, after that you can have anything you like there
Apr 12 10:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.397 BTC [+]
Apr 12 10:23:15 <ThickAsThieves>	what happens if there is no btc when fees are levied?
Apr 12 10:23:24 <ThickAsThieves>	negative balance?
Apr 12 10:23:24 <jurov>	but if you keep negative balance too long (due to monthly fee) then we'll have to resolve it somehow
Apr 12 10:23:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00386 = 0.0193 BTC [+]
Apr 12 10:23:30 <ThickAsThieves>	cool
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Apr 12 10:24:57 <thestringdude>	Lol is that a reference to me :(
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Apr 12 10:25:17 <thestringdude>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 12 10:25:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00320359 / 0.00373333 (72712 shares, 232.94 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00293113 / 0.00373333 (283173 shares, 830.02 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00348895 / 0.00599987 (1833964 shares, 6,398.61 BTC)
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Apr 12 10:25:38 <thestringdude>	!ticker h him
Apr 12 10:25:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.20000000 / 1.3574 / 1.65000000 (50 shares, 67.87000000 BTC), 7D: 0.75000001 / 1.46488035 / 1.93000000 (285 shares, 417.49090011 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.73321281 / 2.08000000 (812 shares, 1407.36880041 BTC)
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Apr 12 10:26:24 <thestringdude>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 10:26:25 <gribble>	81.91
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Apr 12 10:33:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01019 BTC [+]
Apr 12 10:34:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00069424 = 3.61 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 10:34:26 <ThickAsThieves>	question about mpex listings on website
Apr 12 10:34:38 <ThickAsThieves>	by the options, there are cells
Apr 12 10:34:49 <ThickAsThieves>	the first ones show current asks/bids
Apr 12 10:34:58 <ThickAsThieves>	the next colum shows las price
Apr 12 10:35:17 <lippoper1>	.01 sales flooding the orderbook, lagging and bringing the price down ;-)
Apr 12 10:35:18 <ThickAsThieves>	3rd column is?
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Apr 12 10:35:50 <pizzaman1337>	ThickAsThieves: it says at the top...
Apr 12 10:36:02 <ThickAsThieves>	right
Apr 12 10:36:07 <ThickAsThieves>	but is it weighted
Apr 12 10:36:22 <ThickAsThieves>	or just a strict top and bottom
Apr 12 10:36:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm trying to see if there's any way
Apr 12 10:36:40 <ThickAsThieves>	to calculate profit of bonds
Apr 12 10:36:45 <ThickAsThieves>	but i'm thinking no
Apr 12 10:37:33 <ThickAsThieves>	likem looking at O.USD.P200T
Apr 12 10:37:48 <ThickAsThieves>	it shows 1.45892277 as the max
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Apr 12 10:37:57 <ThickAsThieves>	then qty 9`375
Apr 12 10:37:59 <ThickAsThieves>	beside it
Apr 12 10:38:26 <ThickAsThieves>	is that 13677.40096875 btc spent?
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Apr 12 10:39:24 <ThickAsThieves>	or just no way to know
Apr 12 10:40:27 <ThickAsThieves>	those puts either lost or made a bunch of btc
Apr 12 10:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.39 = 1.17 BTC [-]
Apr 12 10:42:01 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, you don't know the price what these  9`375 were bought or sold for
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Apr 12 10:42:23 <ThickAsThieves>	thx
Apr 12 10:42:33 <jurov>	and exercises aren't shown publicly at all.. so no guessing possible
Apr 12 10:42:41 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Apr 12 10:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.38 = 3.04 BTC [-]
Apr 12 10:44:32 <lippoper1>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 10:44:41 <pgp>	gox hosed again?
Apr 12 10:44:45 <lippoper1>	I think so
Apr 12 10:44:56 <lippoper1>	Stuck at stalemate $76.75
Apr 12 10:45:03 <pgp>	can't get to gox website...
Apr 12 10:45:07 <lippoper1>	but isee no reason for it not to drop further into 70's
Apr 12 10:45:15 <lippoper1>	great
Apr 12 10:45:16 <pgp>	lower
Apr 12 10:45:21 <lippoper1>	stupid .01 btc floods
Apr 12 10:45:28 <pgp>	bot
Apr 12 10:45:34 <lippoper1>	yeah, multiple
Apr 12 10:45:42 <lippoper1>	they are really hammering their system
Apr 12 10:45:52 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 12 10:46:10 <lippoper1>	I don't know why Gox doesn't implement a minimum requirement for API trading
Apr 12 10:46:20 <pgp>	agreed...
Apr 12 10:46:37 <pgp>	and free trading for two days creates more problems for them
Apr 12 10:46:58 <lippoper1>	back and to 73.6
Apr 12 10:47:03 <lippoper1>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 10:47:11 <pgp>	woosh
Apr 12 10:47:23 <jcpham>	;;ticker --avg
Apr 12 10:47:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00069424 = 2.6381 BTC [-]
Apr 12 10:47:57 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 7.893106 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0158176960484 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).
Apr 12 10:48:01 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 12 10:51:21 <thestringdude>	;;ticker
Apr 12 10:51:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.59439, Best ask: 74.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40561, Last trade: 74.00000, 24 hour volume: 361168.20410729, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.71417
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Apr 12 10:52:12 <thestringdude>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 10:52:13 <gribble>	81.80
Apr 12 10:52:28 <jcpham>	;;bc,stats
Apr 12 10:52:32 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231000 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 839 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 21 hours, 45 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9121259.39971 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.87475
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Apr 12 10:52:49 <jcpham>	price has to follow that difficulty of bitcoin is doomed
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Apr 12 10:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 12 10:54:38 <thestringdude>	To 10 million
Apr 12 10:54:55 <thestringdude>	Those june futures is looking pretty sweet
Apr 12 10:55:02 <ThickAsThieves>	sounds like friedcat is gearing up some hashes
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Apr 12 10:58:24 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1816098#msg1816098
Apr 12 10:59:10 <pgp>	so hard to read the tape right now..
Apr 12 10:59:16 <unbalanced>	What's the Intrinsic Value calc on an mpex put? (strike - vwap) / 1 ?
Apr 12 11:00:07 <jurov>	yes. just strike - vwap .
Apr 12 11:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	in dollars yea
Apr 12 11:00:43 <unbalanced>	Gotcha, makes sense. So exercise is almost always better than selling to the bot.
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Apr 12 11:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	up until recejntly selling to the bot was always better
Apr 12 11:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	but it's gone crazy with the volatility.
Apr 12 11:01:26 <unbalanced>	Right I'd heard that one was better but couldn't remember which, so I was confused.
Apr 12 11:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	i guess in spite of everything i'm goping to have to make changes to it.
Apr 12 11:02:03 <unbalanced>	So option holders, remember to check both prices (sell and exercise) before you do one or the other out of habit!
Apr 12 11:02:05 <MJR_>	what has the best charts?
Apr 12 11:02:09 <lippoper1>	crashed again
Apr 12 11:02:10 <lippoper1>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 11:02:11 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.470043 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00294594971258 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
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Apr 12 11:03:54 <pgp>	more unpleasantness on the way
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Apr 12 11:04:17 <unbalanced>	unpleasantness as in gox downtime, or price drops?
Apr 12 11:04:45 <ThickAsThieves>	one in the same no?
Apr 12 11:04:49 <unbalanced>	heh
Apr 12 11:04:53 <pgp>	both
Apr 12 11:05:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.0021 BTC [+]
Apr 12 11:05:09 <lippoper1>	yay back
Apr 12 11:05:11 <lippoper1>	at 70
Apr 12 11:05:26 <lippoper1>	got filled when it dipped to 69, I'm sure it'll go lower though
Apr 12 11:05:28 <lippoper1>	stupid lag
Apr 12 11:05:49 <unbalanced>	I think I may take up Ultimate Fighting after all this is through, as I'll miss getting punched in the face by the market
Apr 12 11:06:12 <lippoper1>	looks like new temporary floor at 68
Apr 12 11:06:34 <thestringdude>	;;ticker
Apr 12 11:06:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.04147, Best ask: 71.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45853, Last trade: 71.50000, 24 hour volume: 369368.13969566, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.45432
Apr 12 11:06:52 <thestringdude>	;;asks 85
Apr 12 11:06:53 <gribble>	There are currently 10128.579 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 805040.60529 USD in total. | Data vintage: 82.4081 seconds
Apr 12 11:07:08 <lippoper1>	we're going back up lol
Apr 12 11:07:11 <pgp>	;;bids 50
Apr 12 11:07:12 <gribble>	There are currently 48379.75 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 2803769.86843 USD in total. | Data vintage: 101.1060 seconds
Apr 12 11:07:16 <lippoper1>	;;bids 71
Apr 12 11:07:17 <gribble>	There are currently 32.186782 bitcoins demanded at or over 71.0 USD, worth 2285.51774436 USD in total. | Data vintage: 106.1531 seconds
Apr 12 11:07:22 <thestringdude>	;;ticker
Apr 12 11:07:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.02000, Best ask: 71.45000, Bid-ask spread: 2.43000, Last trade: 69.02000, 24 hour volume: 369389.32445743, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.45363
Apr 12 11:07:27 <lippoper1>	;;asks 77
Apr 12 11:07:28 <gribble>	There are currently 2876.6926 bitcoins offered at or under 77.0 USD, worth 218426.498028 USD in total. | Data vintage: 117.2500 seconds
Apr 12 11:07:32 <thestringdude>	Nope down for a second
Apr 12 11:07:42 <thestringdude>	Get ready to buy tho lol
Apr 12 11:07:56 <lippoper1>	getting warmed up
Apr 12 11:08:01 <lippoper1>	to sell actually lol
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Apr 12 11:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [-]
Apr 12 11:09:10 <thestringdude>	;;ticker
Apr 12 11:09:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.87000, Best ask: 69.99998, Bid-ask spread: 0.12998, Last trade: 69.99998, 24 hour volume: 370043.08884897, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.42992
Apr 12 11:09:22 <thestringdude>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 11:09:23 <gribble>	81.66
Apr 12 11:09:50 <thestringdude>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 12 11:09:52 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.90251552 / 218.88143499 / 226.22012381 (14550 shares, 2,478.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Apr 12 11:15:27 <thestringdude>	;;ticker
Apr 12 11:15:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.00000, Best ask: 75.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 75.40000, 24 hour volume: 372625.87035167, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.34320
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Apr 12 11:18:48 <pgp>	you know - i really think that this "no trading fees" thing at gox is actually creating even more problems...
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Apr 12 11:19:17 <pgp>	now it cost nothing to colude with others to create wash sales
Apr 12 11:19:46 <pgp>	painting the tape is what we call it...
Apr 12 11:20:06 <MJR_>	wait gox has no fees right now?
Apr 12 11:20:23 <pgp>	for next day and a half
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Apr 12 11:20:40 <mircea_popescu>	pgp that is an issue.
Apr 12 11:20:50 <pgp>	no barrier to manipulation now...
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Apr 12 11:20:58 <thestringdude>	;;ticker
Apr 12 11:20:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.35630, Best ask: 74.59264, Bid-ask spread: 1.23634, Last trade: 73.35630, 24 hour volume: 374649.74877586, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.29169
Apr 12 11:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	moreover
Apr 12 11:21:06 <thestringdude>	No manipulation is still there
Apr 12 11:21:12 <mircea_popescu>	they're trying to create the imprerssion volume is still there.
Apr 12 11:21:18 <MJR_>	no BARRIER to manipulation
Apr 12 11:21:23 <ThickAsThieves>	nasically no matter what level the price reaches, itll be worked back and forth by a $10 spread
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Apr 12 11:22:00 <pgp>	mp: i think you're right
Apr 12 11:22:08 <ThickAsThieves>	itll take aggressive action to push it in any direction
Apr 12 11:22:31 <pgp>	makes real price discovery that much harder
Apr 12 11:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.36 = 1.44 BTC [-]
Apr 12 11:23:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3501 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 11:23:34 <pgp>	also with no fees, market making bots can just flood the system with orders, making things worse...
Apr 12 11:23:36 <splnkr>	hmmm..all this spasmodic behavior by gox is kind of a testament to the folly of meddling with money markets, which is what i thought bitcoin was designed to discourage
Apr 12 11:23:50 <pgp>	gox...   fucking retards...
Apr 12 11:24:16 <ThickAsThieves>	at this point we can only call them dumb for so many offenses, it has crossed into intentional
Apr 12 11:24:23 <splnkr>	what we need is a decentralized set of regional exchanges that are all "glued" together in terms of fund transfer, with standardized API's, etc, so arbitrage can be performed and people can use them
Apr 12 11:24:47 <ThickAsThieves>	these arent mistakes they are making
Apr 12 11:24:57 <ThickAsThieves>	no one makes that many
Apr 12 11:25:06 <pgp>	splnkr: yes...  I am a big advocate of such a thing...
Apr 12 11:25:28 <pgp>	unfortunately such a system is only as strong as it's weakest link...
Apr 12 11:25:46 <pgp>	its
Apr 12 11:25:56 <splnkr>	cool pgp just to be clear when i said 'people can use them' i meant people can go from one to the other and not have a whole new learning curve again for the basic deposit/withdrawal processes
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Apr 12 11:26:23 <splnkr>	i.e., Dwolla
Apr 12 11:26:26 <splnkr>	lol
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Apr 12 11:26:49 <pgp>	i hear you...
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Apr 12 11:27:12 <pgp>	the whole thing is soooo   fragmented right now...
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Apr 12 11:27:27 <ThickAsThieves>	wall st about to pop too maybe
Apr 12 11:28:20 <pgp>	not so long as FED keeps buying assets...
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Apr 12 11:28:38 <pgp>	fiat asset bubble is just starting
Apr 12 11:28:44 <pgp>	again...
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Apr 12 11:29:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13124 @ 0.00069963 = 9.1819 BTC [+]
Apr 12 11:29:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7976 @ 0.00070057 = 5.5877 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 11:29:24 <KRS1>	volatility huh
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Apr 12 11:30:08 <damientrog>	man, what a day
Apr 12 11:30:09 <pgp>	gold getting SMACKED today...
Apr 12 11:30:27 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 12 11:30:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.80000, Best ask: 73.80001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 73.80001, 24 hour volume: 376604.16676873, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.23934
Apr 12 11:31:37 <damientrog>	some must made a ton of money out of this histeria
Apr 12 11:33:00 <KRS1>	fo sho
Apr 12 11:33:54 <Diablo-D3>	http://tapastic.com/episode/3686
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Apr 12 11:35:17 <pgp>	gox market is behaving very strangely...  definately something unusual/artificial...  Call me crazy, but just not passing the smell test for me right now...
Apr 12 11:35:22 <damientrog>	already 2 bastards that didn't pay their transactions on bitcoin.de
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Apr 12 11:36:51 <mircea_popescu>	pgp and oil and silver
Apr 12 11:37:18 <pgp>	indeed
Apr 12 11:37:27 <damientrog>	it's like a buying frenzy for inflated currency
Apr 12 11:37:36 <pgp>	<damientrog> what do you mean?
Apr 12 11:37:50 <damientrog>	well why sell your gold, bitcoin, silver?
Apr 12 11:38:09 <damientrog>	for dollars are euros that you know are being inflated heavily
Apr 12 11:38:38 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 12 11:38:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.95835, Best ask: 73.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02165, Last trade: 73.95835, 24 hour volume: 378171.43939828, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.20200
Apr 12 11:39:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5674 @ 0.00070057 = 3.975 BTC [+]
Apr 12 11:39:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4604 @ 0.00070081 = 3.2265 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 11:40:10 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 12 11:40:11 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 23 hours, 57 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 12 11:40:15 <thestringpuller>	;;seen jurov
Apr 12 11:40:15 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 40 minutes and 7 seconds ago: <jurov> yes. just strike - vwap .
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Apr 12 11:44:35 <Chilca>	Good morning mircea_popescu
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Apr 12 11:49:57 <mircea_popescu>	hey Chilca
Apr 12 11:50:23 <ThickAsThieves>	HFT bots taking over?
Apr 12 11:50:35 <pgp>	i think so...
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Apr 12 11:51:09 <ThickAsThieves>	ugh we need the fees back
Apr 12 11:51:14 <ThickAsThieves>	and order fees
Apr 12 11:51:24 <damientrog>	any idea what's going on bitcoin-24.com?
Apr 12 11:51:26 <pgp>	my feeling is that it's getting ready to break to the downside, though...
Apr 12 11:52:04 <ThickAsThieves>	mo, would you mind click the Buy $1m button a couple times?
Apr 12 11:52:07 <pgp>	activity for last 1/2 hour just seems...  odd...
Apr 12 11:52:11 <ThickAsThieves>	clicking*
Apr 12 11:52:16 <ThickAsThieves>	mp*
Apr 12 11:53:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i think humans are waiting for a shift before taking action
Apr 12 11:53:49 <ThickAsThieves>	but bots are making too much money from the people who arent
Apr 12 11:53:56 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 11:53:57 <gribble>	81.53
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Apr 12 11:54:41 <ThickAsThieves>	we need whales to take action
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Apr 12 11:55:29 <KRS1>	;;bids 32
Apr 12 11:55:31 <gribble>	There are currently 113783.17 bitcoins demanded at or over 32.0 USD, worth 5511237.11861 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0049 seconds
Apr 12 11:55:37 <KRS1>	;;bids 50
Apr 12 11:55:38 <gribble>	There are currently 52162.042 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 3057415.9691 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.3262 seconds
Apr 12 11:55:46 <pgp>	they have to turn the fees back on!  this is totally artificial
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Apr 12 11:55:53 <KRS1>	;;bids 57
Apr 12 11:55:53 <gribble>	There are currently 30163.221 bitcoins demanded at or over 57.0 USD, worth 1904811.61423 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.5855 seconds
Apr 12 11:56:00 <KRS1>	thanks gribble
Apr 12 11:56:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 11:56:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.50000, Best ask: 71.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39000, Last trade: 71.50000, 24 hour volume: 382755.81915148, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.07081
Apr 12 11:56:17 <thestringpuller>	;;market buy 200
Apr 12 11:56:17 <gribble>	A market order to buy 200 bitcoins right now would take 14406.8631 USD and would take the last price up to 72.4000 USD, resulting in an average price of 72.0343 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 45.5410 seconds
Apr 12 11:56:18 <jborkl>	;;tslb
Apr 12 11:56:23 <gribble>	Time since last block: 25 minutes and 57 seconds
Apr 12 11:56:24 <thestringpuller>	;;market buy 1000
Apr 12 11:56:24 <gribble>	A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 72536.2371 USD and would take the last price up to 72.8415 USD, resulting in an average price of 72.5362 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 53.2205 seconds
Apr 12 11:56:34 <thestringpuller>	;;nethash
Apr 12 11:56:35 <gribble>	66244.078428
Apr 12 11:56:39 <Scrat>	inb4 gox PR boasting about their new record volume
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Apr 12 11:56:44 <KRS1>	what mp does this all point to ya think
Apr 12 11:57:02 <MJR_>	see...this is typical gox
Apr 12 11:57:03 <mircea_popescu>	ya they've accomplished it
Apr 12 11:57:06 <KRS1>	maybe we're done for today
Apr 12 11:57:09 <MJR_>	do the exact opposite of what would make sense
Apr 12 11:57:17 <MJR_>	too many orders? incentivize more
Apr 12 11:57:24 <taub>	the btce volime died off quickly after gox was back :/
Apr 12 11:57:27 <KRS1>	yeah, weird that it works out that way
Apr 12 11:57:46 <MJR_>	its super simple, you need to filter
Apr 12 11:57:53 <MJR_>	based on whatever metric you care to use
Apr 12 11:57:54 <pgp>	ride isn't over yet...
Apr 12 11:57:56 <KRS1>	folks trade at gox and stop trading at btce
Apr 12 11:58:03 <taub>	of course
Apr 12 11:58:19 <taub>	0% fee is nice but eh
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Apr 12 11:58:38 <taub>	who knows when they shut it down again for "cooldown"
Apr 12 11:58:43 <Scrat>	0 fees is a dick move
Apr 12 11:59:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7545 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 11:59:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7547 BTC [+]
Apr 12 11:59:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7548 BTC [+]
Apr 12 11:59:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.755 = 2.265 BTC [+]
Apr 12 11:59:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.759 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:00:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7599 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:00:13 <pgp>	0 fees is just plain dumb...
Apr 12 12:00:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 12:00:53 <pgp>	just drop it .2% or something - making it free just makes things worse
Apr 12 12:01:08 <taub>	why?
Apr 12 12:01:13 <taub>	love it
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Apr 12 12:01:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.76 = 7.6 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:01:59 <mircea_popescu>	pgp they have absoluterly no idea what any of the buttons do,.
Apr 12 12:02:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3673 @ 0.00070739 = 2.5982 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:02:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.0007091 = 1.2764 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00071208 = 1.7802 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:02:12 <mircea_popescu>	buncha kids from the retarded kindergarten got into a boeing, are having fun
Apr 12 12:02:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.76 = 2.28 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:04:04 <pgp>	logjam now unjammed...
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Apr 12 12:05:36 <Tritonio>	anyone here has got BITBOND bonds?
Apr 12 12:06:05 <pigeons>	Tritonio: i think Namworld holds a bit and amazingrando owes him a bit
Apr 12 12:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	ya im pretty sure namworld had a good chunk
Apr 12 12:07:40 <Tritonio>	well i theory that was a loan, not BITBOND bonds. I was actually looking for some of the people that actually had BITBOND. The ones that are supposed to be contacted by amazingrando to discuss about BITBOND-ASIC. I was going to ask if they ever got contacted by him about that.
Apr 12 12:07:47 <ThickAsThieves>	ugh, this is gonna get worse
Apr 12 12:08:11 <ThickAsThieves>	we're back on downtrend
Apr 12 12:08:18 <ThickAsThieves>	no one wants to buy into asks
Apr 12 12:08:21 <ThickAsThieves>	so down we go
Apr 12 12:08:23 <taub>	pop pop
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Apr 12 12:08:42 <taub>	it had a chance to bounce from 70 to 99, but didnt happen :)
Apr 12 12:08:49 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
Apr 12 12:08:53 <ThickAsThieves>	no to 60
Apr 12 12:08:56 <ThickAsThieves>	now*
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Apr 12 12:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174549.msg1816764#msg1816764 this was 6 hours ago.
Apr 12 12:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	6 hours later ? mtgox volume + 100k on usd alone
Apr 12 12:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	and all other exchanges slightly under what they were.
Apr 12 12:09:20 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin ppl are totally retarded wtf.
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Apr 12 12:10:07 <ThickAsThieves>	now watch these bid walls dodge the knife
Apr 12 12:10:31 <pgp>	right...
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Apr 12 12:10:57 <pgp>	looks like i'm eating lunch at my desk...
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Apr 12 12:12:36 <Guest42002>	mircea_popescu: why is the bot not quoting?
Apr 12 12:12:44 <taub>	http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1365782921314.jpg mtgox headquarters
Apr 12 12:12:49 <ThickAsThieves>	check it out! Gox needs to turn fees back on
Apr 12 12:12:51 <ThickAsThieves>	oops
Apr 12 12:12:56 <ThickAsThieves>	wrong paste
Apr 12 12:13:04 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1819469#msg1819469
Apr 12 12:13:07 <ThickAsThieves>	there ya go
Apr 12 12:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	Guest42002 probably charts failed to reply to it
Apr 12 12:13:15 <Guest42002>	bitcoin-charts ?
Apr 12 12:13:18 <Guest42002>	$avg
Apr 12 12:13:20 <mpexbot>	Guest42002: 81.53
Apr 12 12:13:30 <Guest42002>	that's up so what's going on?
Apr 12 12:13:32 <Guest42002>	:(
Apr 12 12:13:33 <ThickAsThieves>	300MHs usb miner!
Apr 12 12:13:45 <ThickAsThieves>	how fucking cool
Apr 12 12:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	Guest42002 i have no idea.
Apr 12 12:14:02 <Guest42002>	but you run the bot
Apr 12 12:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	but you have to understand how the web works.
Apr 12 12:14:15 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that a site answers to you doens't mean it answers everyone else.
Apr 12 12:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	the facvt that it doesn't answer to you still doesn't mean it's not answering to everyone else.
Apr 12 12:14:37 <Guest42002>	yes, but the bot is always up usually, he's been down a lot more :(
Apr 12 12:14:40 <mircea_popescu>	the web is the web.
Apr 12 12:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	well, most of bitcoin infrastructure was always up usually
Apr 12 12:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	except when stuff is happening.
Apr 12 12:15:21 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer developed a 300MHs sub powered mining gizmo
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Apr 12 12:15:32 <pizzaman1337>	and when stuff is happening is when people want to trade
Apr 12 12:15:32 <ThickAsThieves>	they are gonna sell like mad
Apr 12 12:15:43 <ThickAsThieves>	usb-powered
Apr 12 12:15:44 <Guest42002>	;;ticker
Apr 12 12:15:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17015 @ 0.0007195 = 12.2423 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:15:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.80000, Best ask: 68.90000, Bid-ask spread: 1.10000, Last trade: 68.90000, 24 hour volume: 388885.47870841, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.85309
Apr 12 12:15:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15835 @ 0.00072 = 11.4012 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:16:18 <Diablo-D3>	http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/04/12/it-made-sense-yesterday-the-libertarian-party-is-accepting-donations-in-bitcoin/
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Apr 12 12:16:32 <Guest42002>	mircea_popescu: so why aren't you troubleshooting?
Apr 12 12:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	what'd i do ?
Apr 12 12:17:17 <ThickAsThieves>	http://i.imgur.com/pzAootC.jpg?1
Apr 12 12:17:18 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoinchaerts just gave me a 504
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Apr 12 12:18:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not sure friedcat can ever be doubted again after this, now i'm a fanboi
Apr 12 12:18:36 <Guest42002>	lol oh mircea_popescu in the fact it says a couple of hours at most?
Apr 12 12:18:53 <Guest42002>	faq*
Apr 12 12:18:56 <Guest42002>	wow
Apr 12 12:19:06 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves it does read pretty nice.
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Apr 12 12:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	Guest42002 "Last revision : February the 6th, 2013."
Apr 12 12:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	i guess it will have to be revised. som,ethiong like
Apr 12 12:20:01 <ThickAsThieves>	its like the perfect solution to 51% concerns too
Apr 12 12:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	"Bitcoin mostly consists of retards, MtGox is a piece of shit, nothing useful can be made in this space and if you try people will ask you why is everyone else retarded"
Apr 12 12:20:11 <ThickAsThieves>	every bitcoiner should own at least one usb miner
Apr 12 12:20:20 <error4733>	ThickAs...  TAKE MY BITCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIN
Apr 12 12:20:35 <Guest42002>	ThickAsThieves: but are they going to be sold onthe market?
Apr 12 12:20:36 <ThickAsThieves>	^^^
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Apr 12 12:20:41 <ThickAsThieves>	of course
Apr 12 12:20:45 <Guest42002>	mircea_popescu: so you havve lost faith in bitcoin because no one listens to you?
Apr 12 12:20:46 <ThickAsThieves>	tahts the point
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Apr 12 12:21:03 <ThickAsThieves>	friedcat doesnt need to deal with a bunch of usb hubs
Apr 12 12:21:06 <mircea_popescu>	Guest42002 no dude. i am just trying to illustrate to you kinda how pointless your approach is.
Apr 12 12:21:10 <ThickAsThieves>	he has racks on racks on racks
Apr 12 12:21:15 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox just fucked bitcoin.
Apr 12 12:21:18 <mircea_popescu>	charts doesn't work.
Apr 12 12:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	you're asking me why the bot doesn't quote.
Apr 12 12:21:28 <Guest42002>	no we fucked bitcoin
Apr 12 12:21:31 <mircea_popescu>	BECAUSE CHARTS DONT WORK. thart's why.
Apr 12 12:21:38 <KRS1>	what about order books
Apr 12 12:21:40 <Guest42002>	you warned us to stop buying at 130
Apr 12 12:21:54 <mircea_popescu>	that's really besides the point.
Apr 12 12:21:55 <ThickAsThieves>	no, he said it's not WORTH 130
Apr 12 12:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	it's not the price that's the issue.
Apr 12 12:22:07 <mircea_popescu>	it's the fact those fuckwits can't keep trading orderly.
Apr 12 12:22:20 <KRS1>	i see orders and sells at given prices are those the same as the charts..i feel stupid for asking this
Apr 12 12:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	and for the record i've not lost faith in bitcoin or anything.
Apr 12 12:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	just, sitting there and hitting f5 on the mpex page is scarcely a good use of tyour time.
Apr 12 12:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	if it catches a feed it quotes (it has multiple times today)
Apr 12 12:22:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01019 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	if you actually want to buy/sell, wait for one of those and do so.
Apr 12 12:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	there definitely are going to be gaps.
Apr 12 12:23:08 <mircea_popescu>	today, yesterday, for as long as market stays disorderly
Apr 12 12:23:09 <Guest42002>	that wasn't what I was pointing out but I guess you're right in that sense, what was the url for stat json feed?
Apr 12 12:23:13 <Ali__>	Hi Mircea
Apr 12 12:23:13 <ThickAsThieves>	if we dont touch 75 soon, its gonna get worse
Apr 12 12:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	which pretty much means for as long as gox exists, going forward
Apr 12 12:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	hi Ali__
Apr 12 12:23:28 <Ali__>	cheers for the channel link
Apr 12 12:23:28 <Guest42002>	mircea_popescu: thanks for you help and being available
Apr 12 12:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	Guest42002 i
Apr 12 12:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	'd love to get you the url but can't load the site to do so.
Apr 12 12:23:50 <Guest42002>	oh noes? are you under attack?
Apr 12 12:23:59 <mircea_popescu>	what is with this guy
Apr 12 12:24:08 <ThickAsThieves>	why dont we ban people in this channel again?
Apr 12 12:24:09 <mircea_popescu>	no dood, i'm not under any attack. site doesn't load 0.o
Apr 12 12:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves cause we're perverse.
Apr 12 12:25:00 <ThickAsThieves>	mmm masochism
Apr 12 12:25:02 <mircea_popescu>	actually now it's back
Apr 12 12:25:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoincharts.com/t/weighted_prices.json
Apr 12 12:25:13 <Guest42002>	sweet thank mircea_popescu I"m sorry for being a poop
Apr 12 12:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	also : mpexbot caches the avg.
Apr 12 12:25:27 <jborkl>	mpex.co is loading fine,if thats what he is bitching about
Apr 12 12:25:32 <Guest42002>	i was asking for mpex stat there is a public url for json feed from mpex yes?
Apr 12 12:25:40 <ThickAsThieves>	forgiven, only  because i love the word poop
Apr 12 12:25:51 <ThickAsThieves>	poop poop poop
Apr 12 12:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	o that.
Apr 12 12:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	it's in the faq tyou know.
Apr 12 12:26:07 <mircea_popescu>	i thought you wanted the btccharts json
Apr 12 12:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl i've had issues with the bot not quoting these past days because it couldn't get the price feed and other data.
Apr 12 12:26:51 <mircea_popescu>	tho i've just looked and it's quoting nao.
Apr 12 12:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	or was. heh i guess we've been chatting for ten minutes here.
Apr 12 12:28:36 <Guest42002>	yay he's back
Apr 12 12:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	you two got a real thing going huh.
Apr 12 12:29:10 <mircea_popescu>	so were you looking to buy something or just get heartbroken whenever bot's away ?
Apr 12 12:29:29 <jborkl>	mtgox down
Apr 12 12:29:47 <joecool>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 12:30:01 <Guest42002>	nope sell
Apr 12 12:30:09 <jborkl>	there is no lag, it is down again
Apr 12 12:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	alrighty so there's your chance.
Apr 12 12:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl this success...
Apr 12 12:30:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7599 BTC [-]
Apr 12 12:30:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:30:44 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 12 12:30:50 <jborkl>	no fee trades, could not have ended bad.. when they were already overloaded with volume
Apr 12 12:31:35 <Guest42002>	for fucking realz?
Apr 12 12:31:42 <jborkl>	and btce down
Apr 12 12:32:19 <Guest42002>	dude what's the point
Apr 12 12:32:26 <Guest42002>	we can't even trade
Apr 12 12:32:41 <ThickAsThieves>	no point
Apr 12 12:32:49 <ThickAsThieves>	other than fair warning price is about to drop again
Apr 12 12:32:52 <jborkl>	might as well die and give up....
Apr 12 12:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 12 12:33:44 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin needs less investment of capital, moar brainz
Apr 12 12:34:10 <jborkl>	or maybe more troll boxes on trading sites...
Apr 12 12:34:13 <jborkl>	lol
Apr 12 12:34:25 <jcpham>	more troll boxes
Apr 12 12:34:46 <pipeline>	hey guys this is just a helpful note
Apr 12 12:34:49 <jborkl>	I cant even use btce , the troll box pisses me off too bad
Apr 12 12:34:49 <pipeline>	for the full mtgox experience
Apr 12 12:34:55 <pipeline>	make sure that you have java installed
Apr 12 12:35:00 <pipeline>	with the plugin turned on
Apr 12 12:35:28 <pipeline>	after all, you can't really be a btc trader until you've had your wallet stolen by spearfishers at least once
Apr 12 12:35:40 <jborkl>	full MtGox exp?  I think fuck up , bend over , no lube
Apr 12 12:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	the full experience of success victimization ?
Apr 12 12:36:12 <guruvan>	jborkl:  https://btc-e.com/disableChat
Apr 12 12:36:19 <jborkl>	oh, nice
Apr 12 12:36:24 <jborkl>	thanks
Apr 12 12:36:29 <guruvan>	np
Apr 12 12:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	now that's a good idea.
Apr 12 12:36:51 <guruvan>	Anything to get more volume in and keep it off gox
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Apr 12 12:37:35 <Guest42002>	bitcoin needs moar infratstructure
Apr 12 12:38:02 <Guest42002>	mircea_popescu: bitcoin already has brainz no one listens to them
Apr 12 12:38:16 <joecool>	gox just rebooted
Apr 12 12:38:40 <joecool>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 12:38:41 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.647474 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00330151944996 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Apr 12 12:38:43 <Doffx>	Bitcoin needs WAY more merchant, WAY more goods for sale.
Apr 12 12:38:51 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx brainz first.
Apr 12 12:39:00 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise the merchants will get fucked, not want to try it again
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Apr 12 12:39:08 <taub>	cute, gox keeps goxing
Apr 12 12:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	502 Bad Gateway
Apr 12 12:39:31 <joecool>	most merchants with brains that i've spoken to take BTC way over market due to risk (usually caused by gox)
Apr 12 12:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	anyone else ?
Apr 12 12:39:56 <jborkl>	I am on and logged in
Apr 12 12:39:58 <joecool>	i'm wondering how bad the btcpay accepting merchants got burned in the past day
Apr 12 12:40:05 <Doffx>	We need a decentralized exchange to give us better price discovery for BTC
Apr 12 12:40:06 <taub>	its working right now but had an outage of 10 mins ...
Apr 12 12:40:07 <Guest42002>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 12:40:08 <gribble>	80.94
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Apr 12 12:41:07 <Doffx>	And I need to be smarter and better at programming so I could just make my own, dammit.
Apr 12 12:41:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9165 @ 0.00072 = 6.5988 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:41:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00072363 = 2.8945 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:41:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1735 @ 0.00073 = 1.2666 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:41:28 <taub>	not worth all that legal trouble...
Apr 12 12:41:33 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx a concerted effort to push local bitcoins would be great i guess.
Apr 12 12:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	or some other decentralised solution like that.
Apr 12 12:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	starting an exchange is nonsense imo. just trade.
Apr 12 12:42:03 <Doffx>	There would be no legal taub if it was not controlled by anyone
Apr 12 12:42:32 <taub>	how would that work
Apr 12 12:42:37 <ThickAsThieves>	does ripple fill this need?
Apr 12 12:42:40 <MJR_>	open outcry market?
Apr 12 12:42:42 <MJR_>	anyone?
Apr 12 12:42:47 <ThickAsThieves>	of decentralized trading?
Apr 12 12:42:59 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ i was explaining a month or two ago how to get a fixing market for btc.
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Apr 12 12:43:06 <mircea_popescu>	sadly we're not quite there yet.
Apr 12 12:43:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7609 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:43:10 <Doffx>	Hell if I knew how it would work id be building it.
Apr 12 12:43:43 <Doffx>	I just know we need some virtual way to discover price that cannot be halted by a DOS attack or maintenance
Apr 12 12:43:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7609 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:44:02 <pgp>	breaking out now....   let's see what happens!
Apr 12 12:44:27 <ThickAsThieves>	wow
Apr 12 12:44:33 <ThickAsThieves>	it actually broke 75
Apr 12 12:44:42 <jcpham>	kaminsky says he can't hack bitcoin on businessinsider
Apr 12 12:44:42 <taub>	doesnt mean anything....
Apr 12 12:45:03 <ThickAsThieves>	82 is real test
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Apr 12 12:45:23 <Doffx>	Tell it to go back to like 140 I want to go buy silver
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Apr 12 12:45:59 <ThickAsThieves>	Doffx, you might wanna come back in a month or two then
Apr 12 12:46:05 <Doffx>	Anyhow, off to move a hotel Payment system to a new server, lets hope all my planning paid off.
Apr 12 12:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol silver got usagi'd ?
Apr 12 12:46:11 <Doffx>	Ill be here ThickAsThieves
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Apr 12 12:46:59 <jborkl>	lol, he could fuck up a wet dream
Apr 12 12:47:05 <pgp>	well now: http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/MTGOXUSD
Apr 12 12:47:24 <ThickAsThieves>	heh
Apr 12 12:48:02 <ThickAsThieves>	Gox IPO next?
Apr 12 12:48:04 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 12 12:48:12 <mircea_popescu>	Volume 0
Apr 12 12:48:14 <mircea_popescu>	seems legit.
Apr 12 12:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, bitbet over 6k btc bet
Apr 12 12:48:58 <taub>	http://images.4chan.org/pol/src/1365784521387.jpg someone shop clark moody into this
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Apr 12 12:51:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol korea fag has a phone and a video game
Apr 12 12:51:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7609 = 1.5218 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:51:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7609 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:51:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.761 = 11.415 BTC [+]
Apr 12 12:52:02 <joecool>	taub: why shop him, he probably took the picture
Apr 12 12:52:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7608 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 12:54:16 <ThickAsThieves>	http://db.tt/vQj330VP
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Apr 12 12:57:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7605 BTC [-]
Apr 12 12:57:19 <pgp>	that is great...
Apr 12 12:59:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7605 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 13:00:01 <pgp>	the chart just can't catch a break here...
Apr 12 13:01:28 <taub>	beat me to it ThickAsThieves
Apr 12 13:01:50 <taub>	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6911896/1365784521387s.jpg
Apr 12 13:01:56 <jcpham>	http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/MTGOXUSD
Apr 12 13:02:13 <jborkl>	mtgox is delaying bitcoin depoits past 6 confirms
Apr 12 13:02:16 <error4733>	dont event thinks to share this pictures  :) in b4 backfire from US gov :)
Apr 12 13:02:17 <ThickAsThieves>	here I fixed it
Apr 12 13:02:17 <ThickAsThieves>	http://db.tt/vQj330VP
Apr 12 13:02:29 <taub>	lol
Apr 12 13:02:44 <taub>	saved
Apr 12 13:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.347 = 1.041 BTC [-]
Apr 12 13:03:22 <ZedsterX>	ThickAsThieves; it was 77 btw
Apr 12 13:03:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7605 BTC [-]
Apr 12 13:03:35 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 13:03:47 <error4733>	Jcpham !! wtf is that !! to sooooon to sooooon
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Apr 12 13:04:05 <thestring>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 13:04:06 <gribble>	80.81
Apr 12 13:04:32 <guruvan>	jcpham:  um holy shit - that's pretty huge
Apr 12 13:05:14 <ThickAsThieves>	lol look at this bot action
Apr 12 13:05:17 <ThickAsThieves>	RIDICULOUS
Apr 12 13:05:28 <deyyo_>	how about this :P
Apr 12 13:05:29 <deyyo_>	http://i.imgur.com/W5tdYx5.png
Apr 12 13:05:58 <taub>	nice
Apr 12 13:06:15 <taub>	with the freflection n all
Apr 12 13:06:20 <deyyo_>	ye :>
Apr 12 13:06:20 <taub>	-g
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Apr 12 13:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00369999 = 3.7 BTC [-]
Apr 12 13:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0037 = 5.55 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 13:08:06 <guruvan>	wtf can't w/d btc from gox w/o verification?!
Apr 12 13:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	duh.
Apr 12 13:08:38 <joecool>	guruvan: stop bitching, they are having pizza parties
Apr 12 13:08:41 <ThickAsThieves>	there i used deyyo's http://db.tt/vQj330VP
Apr 12 13:08:46 <joecool>	down to verifying ~200/day
Apr 12 13:08:55 <joecool>	market crashes, have a pizza party
Apr 12 13:09:03 <deyyo>	hahahaha
Apr 12 13:09:12 <error4733>	need this with LAG on it  for the picture : https://www.asi-ez.com/pix/Prod/MG-SIGNS_PVC.gif
Apr 12 13:09:48 <lippoper1>	@guruvan, seriously, can't even withdraw BTC?
Apr 12 13:10:07 <taub>	where is the mtgox pizza story from?
Apr 12 13:10:08 <guruvan>	no and it isn't much BTC
Apr 12 13:10:10 <ZedsterX>	http://db.tt/vQj330VP
Apr 12 13:10:12 <guruvan>	fuck me
Apr 12 13:10:13 <ZedsterX>	oops
Apr 12 13:10:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00073 = 0.73 BTC [+]
Apr 12 13:10:21 <lippoper1>	like less than double digits?
Apr 12 13:10:27 <lippoper1>	or close to triple digits
Apr 12 13:10:28 <guruvan>	yep
Apr 12 13:10:30 <guruvan>	'like 8
Apr 12 13:10:39 <lippoper1>	;;calc 8 * 70
Apr 12 13:10:39 <gribble>	560
Apr 12 13:10:46 <lippoper1>	yeah, well under a thousand
Apr 12 13:10:49 <lippoper1>	lol
Apr 12 13:10:56 <lippoper1>	those fa#$%@
Apr 12 13:11:14 <jborkl>	Well, they are holding incoming Bticoins way past 6 transactions
Apr 12 13:11:25 <guruvan>	that does it.....acct closure
Apr 12 13:11:28 <lippoper1>	supposed to be 20 right?
Apr 12 13:11:32 <lippoper1>	6 is for litecoins
Apr 12 13:11:42 <jborkl>	no 6
Apr 12 13:11:48 <jborkl>	always been 6
Apr 12 13:12:58 <thestring>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 13:12:58 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.535276 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00107268711075 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 12 13:13:10 <lippoper1>	;;ticker
Apr 12 13:13:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.40000, Best ask: 75.52445, Bid-ask spread: 0.12445, Last trade: 75.52445, 24 hour volume: 407138.79371493, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.40787
Apr 12 13:13:29 <thestring>	;;bids 70
Apr 12 13:13:31 <gribble>	There are currently 6761.0366 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 486098.893975 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0039 seconds
Apr 12 13:13:36 <thestring>	;;market bus 1000
Apr 12 13:13:36 <gribble>	Error: The "Market" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "bus" in it.  Try "list Market" to see the commands in the "Market" plugin.
Apr 12 13:13:42 <lippoper1>	;;asks 75
Apr 12 13:13:43 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.7401 seconds
Apr 12 13:13:47 <lippoper1>	;;bids 75
Apr 12 13:13:47 <gribble>	There are currently 324.92096 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 24420.8701994 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.2594 seconds
Apr 12 13:13:51 <thestring>	;;market buy 1000
Apr 12 13:13:51 <gribble>	A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 76513.2796 USD and would take the last price up to 78.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 76.5133 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 20.2961 seconds
Apr 12 13:14:25 <ThickAsThieves>	lol http://memearchive.net/memerial.net/6435/kim-jong-un-emo.jpg
Apr 12 13:14:29 <thestring>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 13:14:30 <gribble>	80.68
Apr 12 13:15:01 <thestring>	;;seen smickles
Apr 12 13:15:01 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 1 hour, 32 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 12 13:15:17 <lippoper1>	;;market sell 1000
Apr 12 13:15:18 <gribble>	A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 74661.2462 USD and would take the last price down to 73.8500 USD, resulting in an average price of 74.6612 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 106.5025 seconds
Apr 12 13:15:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00072159 = 0.0722 BTC [-]
Apr 12 13:15:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 5000
Apr 12 13:15:40 <jborkl>	and Gox crashed again
Apr 12 13:15:51 <ThickAsThieves>	price got too high
Apr 12 13:15:52 <lippoper1>	yeah
Apr 12 13:15:54 <gribble>	A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 362365.5204 USD and would take the last price down to 70.9000 USD, resulting in an average price of 72.4731 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 142.5831 seconds
Apr 12 13:15:54 <ThickAsThieves>	needed a break
Apr 12 13:16:00 <guruvan>	fuck gox
Apr 12 13:16:04 <lippoper1>	when it comes back, my $80 bid will be filled, and the price will be back down lol
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Apr 12 13:16:46 <taub>	why did you put in an 80 bid oO
Apr 12 13:16:50 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Apr 12 13:16:58 <ThickAsThieves>	wait for 63 at least
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Apr 12 13:17:24 <pgp>	$avg
Apr 12 13:17:25 <mpexbot>	pgp: 80.66
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Apr 12 13:18:36 <lippoper1>	lol
Apr 12 13:18:41 <lippoper1>	that's bottom ;-)
Apr 12 13:19:30 <lippoper1>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 13:19:41 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 12 13:19:47 <guruvan>	no gox
Apr 12 13:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.345 = 2.415 BTC [-]
Apr 12 13:20:04 <thestring>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 12 13:20:06 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.90251552 / 218.88143499 / 226.22012381 (14550 shares, 2,478.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 12 13:20:06 <guruvan>	pathetic
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Apr 12 13:20:25 <thestring>	;;tslb
Apr 12 13:20:27 <gribble>	Time since last block: 35 seconds
Apr 12 13:20:31 <thestring>	Nice
Apr 12 13:20:46 <thestring>	;;bids 70
Apr 12 13:21:05 <thestring>	No gox haha
Apr 12 13:21:18 <taub>	oh, bitcoin24 down D:
Apr 12 13:21:29 <guruvan>	more and more of a joke by the hour
Apr 12 13:21:31 <gribble>	There are currently 6761.0366 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 486098.893975 USD in total. | Data vintage: 325.1259 seconds
Apr 12 13:21:33 <thestring>	CampBx and bitstamp are up
Apr 12 13:21:47 <thestring>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 13:22:01 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 12 13:22:04 <thestring>	;;ticker
Apr 12 13:22:22 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
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Apr 12 13:23:06 <error4733>	what about a webcam in MTgox office ? no more lag ?? profit ???
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Apr 12 13:25:25 <lippoper1>	pump up value put in sell orders, DDoS, public panic sells, you put in buy orders, DDoS, rinse and repeat... This is getting old fast.
Apr 12 13:25:56 <taub>	I wasnt able to find a pattern between ddos and prices yet
Apr 12 13:26:02 <thestringpuller>	lippoper1: wait for it though, the media attention has settled I think a lot of people have exited
Apr 12 13:26:04 <taub>	you think it goes down when it happens?
Apr 12 13:26:14 <thestringpuller>	the ddos just lags everything to make big moves
Apr 12 13:26:25 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 13:26:35 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 12 13:26:44 <lippoper1>	it does
Apr 12 13:26:47 <lippoper1>	taub
Apr 12 13:26:52 <pgp>	gox down hard again?!?
Apr 12 13:26:58 <gesell>	yes
Apr 12 13:27:26 <lippoper1>	thestringpuller, I think media attention will boom with reports of how people lost their life savings investing in BTC, etc...
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Apr 12 13:27:54 <pgp>	victims of their own success...  lol...  I'd like to victimize them...
Apr 12 13:28:11 <thestringpuller>	lippoper1: yea there wasn't much access to short selling or puts
Apr 12 13:28:26 <thestringpuller>	bitcoin-charts was knocked offline while gox was plummeting wednesday
Apr 12 13:28:33 <thestringpuller>	so mpoe-bot wasn't quoting
Apr 12 13:28:36 <jborkl>	gox back alive
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Apr 12 13:29:04 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 13:29:05 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.753297 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00351358755711 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
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Apr 12 13:29:39 <lippoper1>	see taub, the price didn't exactly drop this time, but you can see it flatlined there.
Apr 12 13:29:59 <jborkl>	When we send a bitcoin to Uranus , that is a problem
Apr 12 13:30:19 <lippoper1>	i think they DDoSed it too hard, when I see lots of .01 listings and then the DDoS comes, that's guaranteed price drop.
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Apr 12 13:30:32 <gesell>	thestringpuller: if i remember bitcoincharts is sponsored by mtgox so they might host on similar lines
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Apr 12 13:31:21 <jborkl>	btce now down
Apr 12 13:32:32 <guruvan>	nah - just flashes to cloudflare a little bit
Apr 12 13:32:47 <gesell>	I think the headline on reddit now should be "USD skyrockets in value!!"
Apr 12 13:32:58 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 13:32:59 <gribble>	80.65
Apr 12 13:33:02 <gesell>	with a nice 3day graph
Apr 12 13:33:11 <guruvan>	Well. I will be thrilled to plug up gox's verification queue with a few more people who will then never trade at gox again.
Apr 12 13:33:27 <thestringpuller>	when will people ove money to other exchanges?
Apr 12 13:33:39 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed again.
Apr 12 13:33:41 <lippoper1>	when they get verified apparently
Apr 12 13:33:42 <guruvan>	1 month
Apr 12 13:33:47 <guruvan>	yes
Apr 12 13:33:53 <lippoper1>	since you can't even withdraw a f$^&#$ btc
Apr 12 13:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	basically mtgox is keeping all funds hostage.
Apr 12 13:34:02 <mircea_popescu>	and totally pulling a bfl
Apr 12 13:34:09 <lippoper1>	i'm not transferring any btc in there anymore
Apr 12 13:34:09 <mircea_popescu>	ie, advertising so as to get more noobs deposited.
Apr 12 13:34:16 <mircea_popescu>	if this isn't a scam toppling over i don't know what is.
Apr 12 13:34:18 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: im not following
Apr 12 13:34:20 <guruvan>	I only moved a little in for the excitement yesterday, and WTF shouldnt' they tell me it's a fucking roach hotel for bitcoins BEFORE deposit
Apr 12 13:34:24 <guruvan>	as I deposit
Apr 12 13:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	gesell which part ?
Apr 12 13:34:46 <guruvan>	I have to agree mircea_popescu
Apr 12 13:34:46 <gesell>	what part appears to be a scam. did i miss something? people can move out btc?
Apr 12 13:34:53 <mircea_popescu>	no they can't.
Apr 12 13:35:05 <guruvan>	fractional reserve scam
Apr 12 13:35:06 <gesell>	so there is a hold on getting your btc out of the exhange?
Apr 12 13:35:07 <gesell>	really?
Apr 12 13:35:16 <thestringpuller>	they are claiming no fractional reserve though on reddit in the iama
Apr 12 13:35:25 <thestringpuller>	so it seems they are either lying thus scam
Apr 12 13:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	is it titled "i am a fractional reserve ask me anything" ?
Apr 12 13:35:30 <guruvan>	tried to w/d FIVE BTC and gotta verify
Apr 12 13:35:33 <thestringpuller>	or they are overwhelmed to the brink
Apr 12 13:35:48 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: pretty much have you read it yet? it's sort of amusing
Apr 12 13:35:57 <guruvan>	w/e - I don't give a damn what someone claims - prove it
Apr 12 13:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	nope i've not./
Apr 12 13:37:37 <taub>	video game time i guess
Apr 12 13:37:40 <taub>	nothing moving
Apr 12 13:38:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2872 @ 0.00071888 = 2.0646 BTC [-]
Apr 12 13:38:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5822 @ 0.00070317 = 4.0939 BTC [-]
Apr 12 13:38:33 <gesell>	is there a link to this?
Apr 12 13:38:43 <kakobrekla>	wait - it works for verified and not for unverified?
Apr 12 13:39:15 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 12 13:39:17 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 80.63
Apr 12 13:39:55 <mircea_popescu>	yeah they've locked btcwithdrawals for unverified accts.
Apr 12 13:39:56 <joecool>	just keep suggesting to him to get legal counsel, he will need it
Apr 12 13:39:59 <lippoper1>	78-79 here we come
Apr 12 13:40:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is mpex's requests servers distributed?
Apr 12 13:40:33 <thestringpuller>	are*
Apr 12 13:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 12 13:40:45 <thestringpuller>	it seems whenever you get ddos'ed the requests still get to mpex
Apr 12 13:40:52 <thestringpuller>	within milliseconds
Apr 12 13:41:01 <mircea_popescu>	im magical like that.
Apr 12 13:41:33 <thestringpuller>	i've read the article you reference, but if mtgox isn't migrating to that model with all the money they are making from their success, you are more than right...
Apr 12 13:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	so far what they've done is they've got a 128gbserver to run their shit in ram
Apr 12 13:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	as if theres a difference
Apr 12 13:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	i have raid 1+0 ssd's, they're probably faster than their ram
Apr 12 13:42:52 <joecool>	mircea_popescu: they need bigger/faster machines to crash harder/faster
Apr 12 13:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's ridiculous tho, this is not 1995.
Apr 12 13:43:14 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: poland shutdown bitcoin-24... was that you?? :P
Apr 12 13:43:15 <lippoper1>	I don't know I heard they're using DDR 800Mhz ram
Apr 12 13:43:18 <mircea_popescu>	more memory is a moot point per se.
Apr 12 13:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	gesell eh ?!
Apr 12 13:43:31 <lippoper1>	That's like top of the line for their Pentium II
Apr 12 13:43:41 <deadweasel>	architecture is fucked.  there is no architecture.
Apr 12 13:43:42 <thestringpuller>	this is absurd 100 trades get in executed then it stops accepting requests
Apr 12 13:43:46 <thestringpuller>	or the requests are getting blocked
Apr 12 13:44:07 <joecool>	blocked is likely
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Apr 12 13:44:49 <mircea_popescu>	basically from what can be seen from the outside they take each order and do a mysql select against the entire book
Apr 12 13:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	with some badly chosen transforms
Apr 12 13:44:57 <gesell>	thestringpuller: its actually just a timeout due to DoS
Apr 12 13:45:03 <lippoper1>	lol
Apr 12 13:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	i could see why in this architecture they couldn'
Apr 12 13:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	t handle > 1 trade/second
Apr 12 13:45:11 <thestringpuller>	so it's like tcp dropping packets :(
Apr 12 13:45:15 <lippoper1>	hamsters
Apr 12 13:45:24 <lippoper1>	are taking a nap
Apr 12 13:45:27 <lippoper1>	and getting water
Apr 12 13:45:35 <lippoper1>	they'll be back spinning the wheels soon
Apr 12 13:45:38 <gesell>	mircea_popescu: in addition with each trade they probably had to recalculate your fee bracket which meant querying the db to see previous trades. nuts
Apr 12 13:45:50 <mircea_popescu>	0.0
Apr 12 13:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	they desperately need to hire somebody who knows wtf trading is and obey them.
Apr 12 13:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	unfortunate for them that the 3-4 people who fit the bill and are in btc can't stand them
Apr 12 13:47:13 <joecool>	^^^^^^^^^
Apr 12 13:47:14 <joecool>	this
Apr 12 13:47:58 <joecool>	doesn't help though, hate them or not, they cause the single most damage to bitcoin
Apr 12 13:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	they have.
Apr 12 13:48:28 <mircea_popescu>	so far they're the #1 black eye.
Apr 12 13:48:36 <gesell>	can someone tell me, is it common in markets that i can place multiple orders despite not having the total sum required for all of them. such as i $5000 and i place two orders for 100btc at $50. obviously i dont have $50x200.
Apr 12 13:48:48 <lippoper1>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 13:48:49 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.260122 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00252527037897 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Earth to Moon (0.00257 AU).
Apr 12 13:48:49 <pipeline>	gesell: yes that is the norm in stock markets
Apr 12 13:49:05 <joecool>	the amusing thing is, when i came into bitcoin, it was the same story, they fucked up big and crashed the market
Apr 12 13:49:12 <joecool>	yet they are still here
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Apr 12 13:49:16 <gesell>	okay. ic. pipeline is there a logic for it or just how it is?
Apr 12 13:49:17 <joecool>	to fuck it up continually
Apr 12 13:49:33 <pipeline>	gesell: a lot of your orders will never be executed, so why would they limit you?
Apr 12 13:49:41 <lippoper1>	yeah
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Apr 12 13:49:53 <lippoper1>	worse thing is your order doesn't get filled.
Apr 12 13:50:01 <gesell>	i dont understand... i would think that one would have to remove one order maxing their fiat before making another one
Apr 12 13:50:16 <lippoper1>	not unless an order takes it all up first
Apr 12 13:50:31 <mircea_popescu>	gesell most websites (etrade etc) will allow you to place any set of orders you wish.
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Apr 12 13:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	no exchange will tolerate this. any order placed is firm and executed.
Apr 12 13:50:42 <lippoper1>	see on btc-e, once you place a bid or ask, they remove the balance from your account
Apr 12 13:50:45 <lippoper1>	Not on Gox
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Apr 12 13:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	so basically... there's two things here. what are you discussing, the exchanges or the web selfserve brokers ?
Apr 12 13:51:06 <lippoper1>	the bots
Apr 12 13:51:29 <lippoper1>	The whales and the bots lol
Apr 12 13:51:36 <lippoper1>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 13:51:37 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.92356 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00185080389931 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 12 13:51:38 <lippoper1>	;;ticker
Apr 12 13:51:40 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.85000, Best ask: 75.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 74.85000, 24 hour volume: 410473.52836880, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.35474
Apr 12 13:52:22 <gesell>	yeah i guess my question relates more to whales building artificual walls. as these appear to be indicators for people
Apr 12 13:52:25 <lippoper1>	i don't get it, nothing is moving on gox
Apr 12 13:52:48 <lippoper1>	That explains why those "walls" disappear
Apr 12 13:52:59 <lippoper1>	IF they show up
Apr 12 13:53:02 <lippoper1>	without funds
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Apr 12 13:53:26 <gesell>	yeah lag reports iidle
Apr 12 13:53:42 <gesell>	yeet no trades seemingly
Apr 12 13:55:03 <lippoper1>	yeah very weird
Apr 12 13:55:30 <lippoper1>	The more they say mtgox is manipulating the market, the more likely it seems, especially with this weirdness right now.
Apr 12 13:56:01 <lippoper1>	stalemate at 75?
Apr 12 13:56:03 <gesell>	i dont think so at all
Apr 12 13:56:03 <lippoper1>	;;ticker
Apr 12 13:56:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.13000, Best ask: 75.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.76000, Last trade: 75.13000, 24 hour volume: 413500.15314673, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.29544
Apr 12 13:56:18 <lippoper1>	;;asks 75.89000
Apr 12 13:56:21 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 75.89 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0028 seconds
Apr 12 13:56:32 <lippoper1>	;;bids 75
Apr 12 13:56:33 <gribble>	There are currently 407.97339 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 30636.2108184 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.1662 seconds
Apr 12 13:56:37 <lippoper1>	;;asks 75
Apr 12 13:56:38 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.1069 seconds
Apr 12 13:56:41 <lippoper1>	;;asks 74
Apr 12 13:56:42 <gesell>	gox has some scaling issues, and architecture issues, some policy issues. but i think they just can fix them all in time to handle the load
Apr 12 13:56:42 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 74.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.4388 seconds
Apr 12 13:56:49 <lippoper1>	;;asks 76
Apr 12 13:56:50 <gribble>	There are currently 503.44177 bitcoins offered at or under 76.0 USD, worth 38260.2899496 USD in total. | Data vintage: 28.7110 seconds
Apr 12 13:56:53 <Skarr_>	gesell: The Gox system accepts the orders, but puts them into a Pending state.  I'm almost certain they don't appear on the books until they've switched to an Open state.  That transition does a check to ensure you have the sufficient funds.
Apr 12 13:57:30 <lippoper1>	oh that must be new
Apr 12 13:57:34 <gesell>	Skarr_: yeah? thats something at least, if true. Will see if i can test this
Apr 12 13:57:41 <pgp>	skarr is right
Apr 12 13:58:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7604 BTC [-]
Apr 12 13:58:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.7605 = 6.084 BTC [+]
Apr 12 13:58:21 <pgp>	gox back - wtf!
Apr 12 13:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8833 @ 0.00070274 = 6.2073 BTC [-]
Apr 12 13:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	Skarr_ this is how it used to be
Apr 12 13:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	but they changed it a coupla days ago.
Apr 12 13:58:52 <mircea_popescu>	no more pending orders.
Apr 12 13:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	(it was a "great success" style pr communique, yes)
Apr 12 13:59:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 13:59:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.20515, Best ask: 75.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09485, Last trade: 75.40000, 24 hour volume: 413800.63298868, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.29060
Apr 12 13:59:33 <pgp>	I thought they were putting the code change in on apr 17th
Apr 12 14:00:16 <lippoper1>	I'm sure they threw a pizza party for that one too
Apr 12 14:00:18 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 14:00:19 <pgp>	and no more gox codes either...
Apr 12 14:00:20 <gribble>	80.57
Apr 12 14:00:21 <Skarr_>	mircea: you're kidding! I could put a 100,000 BTC buy on the books without funds?
Apr 12 14:00:26 <lippoper1>	ordered some pizza with our btc
Apr 12 14:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	Skarr_ no no. you can't make the order at all if not funded.
Apr 12 14:00:47 <pgp>	wouldn't show up on book until funded
Apr 12 14:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	pgp i might be confused, but afaik it was announced as already done
Apr 12 14:00:51 <lippoper1>	bought some girl's pantyhose in a vending machine
Apr 12 14:00:51 <joecool>	<pgp> I thought they were putting the code change in on apr 17th <<
Apr 12 14:00:54 <lippoper1>	along with a live crab
Apr 12 14:00:57 <lippoper1>	crazy japan
Apr 12 14:01:03 <joecool>	mircea_popescu: i don't think they did it yet
Apr 12 14:01:03 <taub>	http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/MTGOXUSD :D
Apr 12 14:01:10 <Skarr_>	Ahhhhhhh. You're right. They knocked it outta the park communicating that one. Thanks for the heads up.
Apr 12 14:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	taub volume is still 0
Apr 12 14:01:34 <Skarr_>	I'll at least know to keep an eye on it now.
Apr 12 14:01:41 <pgp>	if they did - i'm sure lag would be a lot better
Apr 12 14:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	pgp no, they did i think
Apr 12 14:01:53 <mircea_popescu>	Skarr_ you got the link ?
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Apr 12 14:02:55 <Skarr_>	mircea: which link?
Apr 12 14:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	of mtgox announcing
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Apr 12 14:03:25 <pgp>	apr 17th https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130409.html
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Apr 12 14:04:01 <splnkr>	that should take the edge off
Apr 12 14:04:19 <pgp>	yes
Apr 12 14:05:00 <Skarr_>	ahhh, ty
Apr 12 14:05:06 <pgp>	it'll make gox passble until more profession exchange platforms come online
Apr 12 14:05:14 <pgp>	passable
Apr 12 14:05:23 <pgp>	professional
Apr 12 14:05:35 <pgp>	what's the matter with me today - can't type or spell...
Apr 12 14:05:48 <joeykrim>	taub, hah nice cnbc link!
Apr 12 14:05:59 <gesell>	Okay ive tested how it handles multiple orders
Apr 12 14:06:09 <Namworld>	at least they never vanished with users funds
Apr 12 14:06:37 <Namworld>	even if they are slow... I think that's the reason tehy survive even if they can't make their exchange work right.
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Apr 12 14:09:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:10:30 <pigeons>	yes they even bailed out users of other exchanges like bitomat
Apr 12 14:10:58 <pigeons>	although they have pulled a mircea_popescu and rolled back before ;)
Apr 12 14:11:45 <gesell>	So if I place two orders for BTC that "nearly" max out my FIAt what it does is fulfills the first and aadjusts the second to be for only the amount of FIAT left. Interestingly this will show up in the orderbooks (API2) but not the web interface
Apr 12 14:11:48 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 14:11:49 <gribble>	80.69
Apr 12 14:12:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00070279 = 13.353 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:12:06 <gesell>	on the web UI it looks as though I have two orders both at near max of the FIAT
Apr 12 14:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons hater.
Apr 12 14:12:31 <pigeons>	;>
Apr 12 14:12:53 <Namworld>	mircea, got my message?
Apr 12 14:13:00 <Namworld>	I left with gribble?
Apr 12 14:13:12 <gesell>	Also if interested... it takes 50 seconds for my order to show up in the http API based orderbooks (didnt check websockets). so if you are realying on the non-websocket API's for up to date information, DONT
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Apr 12 14:13:41 <gesell>	also lets be honest, all the exchanges probably have shitty code
Apr 12 14:14:12 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i'm aware the bot is in "we've been attacked by aliens" mode.
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Apr 12 14:14:59 <Namworld>	eheh, no, I mean, the algorythm might need to be changed a bit
Apr 12 14:15:26 <Namworld>	so that asks prices for calls tend toward 1 for example without ever reaching it.
Apr 12 14:15:35 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 14:15:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.92000, Best ask: 75.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 75.99000, 24 hour volume: 415482.07084261, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.26400
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Apr 12 14:16:02 <pigeons>	if mp is doing something that you think needs to be changed, its really intentional
Apr 12 14:16:08 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 14:16:09 <gribble>	80.69
Apr 12 14:16:10 <pigeons>	</hater>
Apr 12 14:17:31 <Namworld>	For example, the calls struck at 41 USD/BTC will be in the money at... -1885.90 USD
Apr 12 14:17:51 <Namworld>	I'd love for someone to pay me that much for the privilege of offloading their BTC into my hands
Apr 12 14:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld it's not even negative.
Apr 12 14:18:10 <mircea_popescu>	it's above infinity.
Apr 12 14:18:13 <mircea_popescu>	whatever that means.
Apr 12 14:19:58 <Namworld>	technically it's: strike / (1 - ask)
Apr 12 14:20:15 <Namworld>	if ask is higher than one, it's strike divided by a negative number
Apr 12 14:20:19 <Namworld>	so a negative number
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Apr 12 14:20:30 <Namworld>	Infinity would put value of call at 1
Apr 12 14:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	yeah well that formula only works for ask < 1
Apr 12 14:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise it's no longer equivalent
Apr 12 14:22:12 <Namworld>	Anyway
Apr 12 14:22:25 <Namworld>	Bot asks for mad high prices, it's funny
Apr 12 14:22:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1615 @ 0.00348384 = 5.6264 BTC [-]
Apr 12 14:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 12 14:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	the sort of drop it's seen (260 -> 50) makes it think the world is ending really.
Apr 12 14:23:31 <joecool>	well
Apr 12 14:23:44 <joecool>	it's small when you consider $36 -> $2?
Apr 12 14:24:03 <tiberiusiv>	all the bitcoin negative articles will be out now
Apr 12 14:24:04 <pgp>	true
Apr 12 14:24:18 <Namworld>	yeah, well I noticed the more volatility there was, the higher the asks the bot asks for
Apr 12 14:24:22 <Namworld>	already
Apr 12 14:24:25 <splnkr>	18x --> 5x hope next time isn't just a boring old 2x boo
Apr 12 14:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile over at my blog
Apr 12 14:24:27 <joecool>	i thought $70 would be a good number for 2013, i did a large buy at $30 feeling that way
Apr 12 14:24:28 <mircea_popescu>	"i have spent 8 years in romania, and im shocked that this mind is coming from this country :)"
Apr 12 14:24:33 <joecool>	*shrugs*
Apr 12 14:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	joecool : the bot wasn't there then
Apr 12 14:24:40 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 14:24:41 <gribble>	80.66
Apr 12 14:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	the bot was born august 2011ish,
Apr 12 14:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	and based on the past history it had an engine made. as i said yest, i think security and pricing got melded together in some edge cases
Apr 12 14:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	we're still working to mapping out this entire thing, it's not exactly a trivial task
Apr 12 14:25:32 <tiberiusiv>	gold is down alot today
Apr 12 14:25:56 <pgp>	i see bots implied volatility at 600-700 on ask prices of calls
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Apr 12 14:26:12 <jborkl>	woot, sent dust spam to sd on less than 2000 and won
Apr 12 14:26:18 <mircea_popescu>	haha wd.
Apr 12 14:26:40 <mircea_popescu>	pgp his point is valid tho, should never be quoting above 1. rough edge there.
Apr 12 14:26:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7689 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:26:54 <pgp>	yes
Apr 12 14:27:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7695 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 14:27:22 <pgp>	$avg
Apr 12 14:27:23 <mpexbot>	pgp: 80.66
Apr 12 14:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.0007085 = 4.1447 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:27:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 167 @ 0.00070279 = 0.1174 BTC [-]
Apr 12 14:27:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6309 @ 0.00070071 = 4.4208 BTC [-]
Apr 12 14:27:37 <Namworld>	Well even when it was quoting under, breakeven went skyhigh near the lowest calls
Apr 12 14:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	that's somewhat to be expected.
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Apr 12 14:28:24 <Namworld>	yeah. Could be improved upon tho so the effect is less and the low calls are actually good
Apr 12 14:28:29 <Namworld>	they never traded, almost
Apr 12 14:28:50 <Namworld>	albeit if they were priced correctly, they would be lowest gain but also lowest losses
Apr 12 14:28:57 <Namworld>	If people wanted less leverage
Apr 12 14:31:32 <pgp>	mp: so all puts mispriced right now?
Apr 12 14:31:47 <thestringpuller>	yea
Apr 12 14:31:59 <thestringpuller>	^ Namworld
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Apr 12 14:33:42 <pgp>	but the implied vol on the calls just doesn't seem worth it given where we are now...
Apr 12 14:33:51 <lippoper1>	Dare I say the market is becoming stable?
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Apr 12 14:35:05 <thestringpuller>	lippoper1: sort of gox is lagging in taking orders
Apr 12 14:35:15 <thestringpuller>	so it's super intermittent trading
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Apr 12 14:35:22 <thestringpuller>	other exchanges are reporting higher prices
Apr 12 14:35:48 <mircea_popescu>	pgp i wouldn't say mispriced necessarily.
Apr 12 14:36:00 <mircea_popescu>	they are just very expensive to my eyes. but it's what bot thinks.
Apr 12 14:36:25 <joecool>	well they were right, solved excessive lag by crashing frequently
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Apr 12 14:37:39 <pgp>	all the ask prices are the same from C119T to C389T...
Apr 12 14:37:45 <pgp>	how does that make sense?
Apr 12 14:38:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7696 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:38:36 <mircea_popescu>	cause it won't sell a call for under x.
Apr 12 14:39:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	bot has a "won't sell a call for under X" to protect the book from padding. this because of the open auction style of the bonds financing it. you understand what i mean ?
Apr 12 14:39:52 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what do you mean by padding?
Apr 12 14:40:20 <mircea_popescu>	i mean this : each call sold counts as 1 BTC in the needed capital.
Apr 12 14:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	if someone ahs a bond in at say 25% and there are 10k btc at lower % than him
Apr 12 14:41:00 <mircea_popescu>	he could theoretically buy 10k calls for 10 BTC total, so at 0,001 and then get 25 btc for his b ond
Apr 12 14:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	ie, padding the book.
Apr 12 14:41:31 <pgp>	i see
Apr 12 14:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is an artefact of how the bot is financed, not a mispricing per se,.
Apr 12 14:42:04 <mircea_popescu>	now, exactly how much he considers that cutorff to be... in many months it was 0.02 or 0.03 etc.
Apr 12 14:42:25 <mircea_popescu>	now it's 0.26 so based on the volatility we could say bot is hinting at interest rates over 50% per month.
Apr 12 14:43:07 <pgp>	aha - that makes sense...
Apr 12 14:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	well it also is motherfcucking insane on a stick.
Apr 12 14:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	but i am loath to change it because i have never done so yet.
Apr 12 14:43:54 <tiberiusiv>	??asks 250
Apr 12 14:44:51 <pgp>	nonetheless - your "cheapest" call from an impl vol perspective is C116T.  avg would need to go to $139 in two weeks to breakeven - tough call...
Apr 12 14:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	well yeah
Apr 12 14:45:07 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand... last week it went 100 to 260
Apr 12 14:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	what's a bot to do
Apr 12 14:45:18 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 14:45:20 <thestringpuller>	the bot life didn't choose you
Apr 12 14:45:24 <thestringpuller>	you chose the bot ife
Apr 12 14:45:27 <thestringpuller>	life*
Apr 12 14:45:28 <tiberiusiv>	mircea shut up already with your bs.
Apr 12 14:45:35 <mircea_popescu>	no but srsly. from this perspective i could see it wanting 200 for breakeven wtf.
Apr 12 14:45:37 <pigeons>	gypsy!
Apr 12 14:45:37 <pgp>	lmao
Apr 12 14:45:39 <tiberiusiv>	your just trying to scam people into losing $$ ont he options
Apr 12 14:45:41 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv the greatest troll in the world
Apr 12 14:45:49 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 12 14:45:51 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.90251552 / 218.88143499 / 226.22012381 (14550 shares, 2,478.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 12 14:45:53 <pigeons>	i swear he's EskimoBob
Apr 12 14:45:57 <thestringpuller>	oh wow
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Apr 12 14:46:15 <tiberiusiv>	gypsy comes out of his caravan and floods the chat with utter BS after robbing a guy of 1k btc the day before
Apr 12 14:46:16 <joecool>	i haven't seen that idiot in a minute
Apr 12 14:46:26 <joecool>	EskimoBob still around?
Apr 12 14:46:28 <tiberiusiv>	go back to stealing chickens off the side of the road mircea seriously
Apr 12 14:46:34 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 12 14:46:42 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: what do you even contribute to
Apr 12 14:46:44 <thestringpuller>	mr.
Apr 12 14:46:45 <pgp>	except that in most asset classes, when bubbles burst, impl vol goes down, not up...
Apr 12 14:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	pgp i agree.
Apr 12 14:47:00 <tiberiusiv>	lol.
Apr 12 14:47:05 <tiberiusiv>	not if your a gypsy
Apr 12 14:47:10 <pgp>	but then again that assume many market makers...
Apr 12 14:47:17 <pgp>	here we just have the bot
Apr 12 14:47:20 <tiberiusiv>	pgp: mircea took a *massive* loss last month
Apr 12 14:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	pgp i am not saying the bot is right here. i am just saying, it's not directly obvious to me how it is wrong and how much.
Apr 12 14:47:28 <tiberiusiv>	do you think he is willing to repeat that this month?
Apr 12 14:47:35 <pgp>	i know
Apr 12 14:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	we have two year's worth of market data here,
Apr 12 14:47:44 <mircea_popescu>	and junk data at that.
Apr 12 14:47:48 <mircea_popescu>	and junk market to begin with
Apr 12 14:48:09 <tiberiusiv>	he will do what it takes to make sure his options are excessively overpriced giving him an edge
Apr 12 14:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	we;ve done more collective shrugging this past week than the shrugging monks of livonia.
Apr 12 14:48:21 <pgp>	merely opining - i don't know what the right price should be...
Apr 12 14:48:23 <pigeons>	how is it an edge if no one buys them?
Apr 12 14:48:29 <tiberiusiv>	2 back to back losers of that magnitude would be the end of MPOE and with this guys off the chart ego
Apr 12 14:48:55 <tiberiusiv>	pigeon: tons of suckers in here.
Apr 12 14:49:07 <pgp>	but wait...
Apr 12 14:49:26 <pgp>	yes big loss in BTC terms - but not in fiat terms
Apr 12 14:49:40 <tiberiusiv>	go look and add up mircea's BTC monthly income, its a HANDful of coins. his loss last month wiped out 3-5 years of income for him.
Apr 12 14:49:51 <tiberiusiv>	pgp: in fiat terms it was huge as well over $3million
Apr 12 14:49:53 <tiberiusiv>	in 30 days.
Apr 12 14:50:17 <pigeons>	how does losing money make him a scammer?
Apr 12 14:50:20 <tiberiusiv>	the guy is not going to sit around and bleed like that again
Apr 12 14:50:26 <pgp>	bondholder haircut was how much last month?
Apr 12 14:50:32 <tiberiusiv>	40%+
Apr 12 14:50:44 <pgp>	how much did BTC go up last month?
Apr 12 14:50:46 <mircea_popescu>	like 20%
Apr 12 14:50:46 <thestringpuller>	no 20%
Apr 12 14:50:50 <mircea_popescu>	23 or so
Apr 12 14:50:52 <thestringpuller>	also
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Apr 12 14:50:57 <thestringpuller>	if you cahsed out your shit in fiat
Apr 12 14:50:58 <tiberiusiv>	pgp alot?
Apr 12 14:51:00 <thestringpuller>	there was no loss..
Apr 12 14:51:06 <tiberiusiv>	yes there was fuck wit.
Apr 12 14:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	and btc went from high 20s to mid 90s in march fiscal
Apr 12 14:51:10 <tiberiusiv>	you lost all the GAIN
Apr 12 14:51:16 <thestringpuller>	IN BTC
Apr 12 14:51:18 <mircea_popescu>	and from mid 90s to 260ish on the spot in april, and then down
Apr 12 14:51:25 <tiberiusiv>	thats like me cashing out losing stocks from the US into zimbabwe dollars
Apr 12 14:51:27 <tiberiusiv>	and saying there is no loss
Apr 12 14:51:38 <thestringpuller>	if you paid less for the btc than what you got out
Apr 12 14:51:40 <thestringpuller>	then you win
Apr 12 14:51:45 <thestringpuller>	i don't see the issue
Apr 12 14:51:45 <pgp>	you have to consider fiat, because the bond investment is selling fiat options
Apr 12 14:51:46 <tiberiusiv>	no you dont.
Apr 12 14:51:52 <tiberiusiv>	you lost money.
Apr 12 14:51:59 <thestringpuller>	not at all?
Apr 12 14:51:59 <tiberiusiv>	you paid in XXX bitcoins and get less back
Apr 12 14:52:02 <tiberiusiv>	= lose
Apr 12 14:52:03 <thestringpuller>	i lost more money on mt gox
Apr 12 14:52:11 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller i told you to shutup yesterday
Apr 12 14:52:12 <thestringpuller>	indirectly
Apr 12 14:52:17 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: how about you shut up
Apr 12 14:52:17 <tiberiusiv>	why do you even talk? you have no skin in the game
Apr 12 14:52:26 <thestringpuller>	neither do you, you sit around and complain
Apr 12 14:52:28 <pgp>	fine - if BTC is you base curreny, you lost...
Apr 12 14:52:28 <tiberiusiv>	dont speak unless you have over 1000 BTC.
Apr 12 14:52:37 <tiberiusiv>	pgp it is the base currency DUH.
Apr 12 14:52:41 <pgp>	it's like SDICE...
Apr 12 14:52:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 12 14:52:52 <gribble>	66887.959038
Apr 12 14:52:56 <tiberiusiv>	if i lost USD on US stocks can i say i made money in zimbabwe dollars?
Apr 12 14:53:01 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: don't speak unless you contribute something to economy other than being a troll
Apr 12 14:53:02 <pgp>	betting is inelastic to BTC price
Apr 12 14:53:04 <tiberiusiv>	because the zimbabwe dollars collapsed in value faster?
Apr 12 14:53:12 <tiberiusiv>	its still a loss.
Apr 12 14:53:19 <mircea_popescu>	to be perfectly fair : we have jackshit for data as to all these things.
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Apr 12 14:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	how elastic betting is to btc price...
Apr 12 14:53:27 <mircea_popescu>	stuff like that.
Apr 12 14:53:30 <pgp>	big move up in USD/BTC, big move down in BTC denominated shares of SDICE...
Apr 12 14:53:32 <tiberiusiv>	fucking idiots in here no wonder mircea scams so easily
Apr 12 14:53:43 <tiberiusiv>	pgp im talking about mirceas massive loss
Apr 12 14:53:49 <tiberiusiv>	of 29k bitcoins
Apr 12 14:54:00 <tiberiusiv>	which he hasnt even made in any of his business's to date.
Apr 12 14:54:06 <pigeons>	yeah its not really known how elastic betting is to btc price, and it isnt really knowable because the users and their behavior may change
Apr 12 14:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	except the move happened before.
Apr 12 14:54:13 <tiberiusiv>	so why would he lose AGAIN of course hes going to price his options extremely expensive.
Apr 12 14:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	if you look at it it doesn't correlate too well.
Apr 12 14:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, pretty much all financials got axed as people flew towards the exchange to play there.
Apr 12 14:54:40 <tiberiusiv>	if mpoe took another month of losses like that hed be out of business
Apr 12 14:54:43 <mircea_popescu>	yest btc was flowing back
Apr 12 14:54:55 <mircea_popescu>	in fact keiser+idiot friends created a situation much like pirate.
Apr 12 14:54:58 <Namworld>	Only the bonds thing would hurt, not the exchange
Apr 12 14:55:05 <Namworld>	Bot goes out when it runs out of funds
Apr 12 14:55:12 <tiberiusiv>	the options exchange would be finished.
Apr 12 14:55:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00369999 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:55:27 <tiberiusiv>	you keep assuming mircea has hundreds of thousands of bitcoins he doesnt
Apr 12 14:55:30 <Namworld>	So really, another loss reduce bondholders which reduce how many options the bot can make
Apr 12 14:55:30 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what do you mean about keiser?
Apr 12 14:55:38 <pigeons>	people might even agree with you some tiberiusiv if you lost the racism, the eskimobobism, the blind rage ignoring facts, etc
Apr 12 14:55:40 <pgp>	i am not advocating that call should be cheaper - mp has to do whatever he thinks is right - just making observations...
Apr 12 14:55:43 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 12 14:55:43 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: YES meaning future income is greatly reduced.
Apr 12 14:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00296405 / 0.0033407 / 0.00373333 (62627 shares, 209.22 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00292871 / 0.00373333 (277523 shares, 812.79 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00348923 / 0.00599987 (1838086 shares, 6,413.51 BTC)
Apr 12 14:55:53 <Namworld>	the bot uses available BTC to make options
Apr 12 14:55:54 <tiberiusiv>	do you see the problem?
Apr 12 14:56:04 <tiberiusiv>	if bot option writing is reduced = lower income
Apr 12 14:56:13 <tiberiusiv>	meaning longer/harder to cover previous losses
Apr 12 14:56:15 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller all this rarara bitcoin is going over 590685804589 stuiff
Apr 12 14:56:32 <Namworld>	yes... so that MIGHT, MAYBE kill the options thing
Apr 12 14:56:32 <pigeons>	so don't do business with him, i think you're a self-hating gypsy
Apr 12 14:56:43 <Namworld>	It doesn't kill the exchange nor the stocks
Apr 12 14:56:46 <tiberiusiv>	you dont get it to you, ego fuck maniac mircea doesnt want to admit hes a RETARD for trying to insure against BTC volatility, so now he just makes up shit as he goes along
Apr 12 14:56:56 <tiberiusiv>	like yesterday mircea would have lost over 1000 bitcoins alone to bugpowder.
Apr 12 14:57:03 <tiberiusiv>	if he didnt roll back his trade.
Apr 12 14:57:11 <pigeons>	no he doesnt want to admit he's a retard, but you look more retarded trying to get him to admit it
Apr 12 14:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	who's a retard ?
Apr 12 14:57:25 <tiberiusiv>	today again hes making up excuses
Apr 12 14:57:33 <Namworld>	I had puts... they never got rolled back. Huge profits for me...
Apr 12 14:57:35 <tiberiusiv>	of why his options are way overpriced
Apr 12 14:57:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1990 @ 0.00369999 = 7.363 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:57:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.0037 = 9.25 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:57:43 <Namworld>	not sure what Bugpowder's case is all about...
Apr 12 14:57:46 <tiberiusiv>	namworld what 10btc?
Apr 12 14:57:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0037333 = 3.7333 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:57:47 <pigeons>	no one is a retard, tiberiusiv just really really acts that way
Apr 12 14:57:52 <tiberiusiv>	bugpoder had a 1000btc+ trade
Apr 12 14:57:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2510 @ 0.00373331 = 9.3706 BTC [+]
Apr 12 14:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld well he had a buy rolled.
Apr 12 14:58:15 <tiberiusiv>	mircea didnt want to expose himself to potentially thousands of BTCs lost.
Apr 12 14:58:26 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: you're speculating pretty hard
Apr 12 14:58:28 <thestringpuller>	do you have proof?
Apr 12 14:58:30 <tiberiusiv>	thats why he fucked him
Apr 12 14:58:31 <thestringpuller>	I want to see proof
Apr 12 14:58:42 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: PROOF or shut the fuck up.
Apr 12 14:58:44 <tiberiusiv>	yes it was in the channel
Apr 12 14:58:51 <thestringpuller>	no proof of mircea_popescu malice
Apr 12 14:58:51 <tiberiusiv>	and who are you to see proof?
Apr 12 14:58:58 <tiberiusiv>	your a nobody with a few coins. be quiet.
Apr 12 14:59:02 <tiberiusiv>	its in the channel logs
Apr 12 14:59:16 <thestringpuller>	you are making extraordinary claims yet, you have no proof of the intent to deceive in the situation
Apr 12 14:59:20 <thestringpuller>	or intent of malic
Apr 12 14:59:20 <thestringpuller>	malice
Apr 12 14:59:22 <tiberiusiv>	posted at least 3-4 times by bugpowder
Apr 12 14:59:27 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller on ignore.
Apr 12 14:59:40 <tiberiusiv>	dont know why a guy with a few dollars is talking at all or making his opinion heard.
Apr 12 15:00:05 <tiberiusiv>	guy sells 20btc to start a business lmao.
Apr 12 15:00:29 <pgp>	?
Apr 12 15:00:57 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 15:00:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.10000, Best ask: 80.89900, Bid-ask spread: 0.79900, Last trade: 80.10000, 24 hour volume: 426494.87031080, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.14199
Apr 12 15:01:48 <thestringpuller>	so mircea_popescu should we not trust your 100,000 btc empire because tiberiusiv has said you are a scammer and claims to have proof of your malice?
Apr 12 15:02:05 <Namworld>	I had to sell 80 @ like 25 USD to buy a server for BitVPS. Not to start a business, just to buy some hardware...
Apr 12 15:02:08 <tiberiusiv>	never said he was a scammer said hes a SCUM
Apr 12 15:02:15 <Namworld>	Stings when price rose to 250 weeks later
Apr 12 15:02:24 <Namworld>	I wish I could have sold then
Apr 12 15:02:29 <tiberiusiv>	and hes probably a scammer too
Apr 12 15:02:33 <tiberiusiv>	lots have lost with him in here
Apr 12 15:02:45 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller we should not highlight me for nonsebnse cause io'm ion like 3 convos and it just wastes my time
Apr 12 15:02:56 <tiberiusiv>	again thestringpuller not going to repeat myself, if you have less then 1000BTC do not speak thank you.
Apr 12 15:03:09 <tiberiusiv>	shutup and listen.
Apr 12 15:03:16 <tiberiusiv>	theres a reason your broke
Apr 12 15:03:25 <thestringpuller>	if kakobrekla wants to mute me, then fine, but it seems you are the one without skin in the game
Apr 12 15:03:39 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: must be EskimoBob
Apr 12 15:03:58 <tiberiusiv>	namworld: right thats my point. you probably "won" what 50btc on mirceas exchange yesterday?
Apr 12 15:04:07 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder got raped out of 1000+
Apr 12 15:04:22 <tiberiusiv>	of course hell pay you out some tiny little piker ammount lol
Apr 12 15:04:45 <thestringpuller>	bugpowder made 900 btc last month on calls
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Apr 12 15:04:48 <thestringpuller>	you are a fool tiberiusiv
Apr 12 15:04:50 <tiberiusiv>	small time people dont matter, its like the bitcoiners who trade 1-2 btc at a time
Apr 12 15:04:56 <thestringpuller>	you are making no sense
Apr 12 15:05:05 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller: right. and mircea is making sure he takes it all back this month.
Apr 12 15:05:30 <tiberiusiv>	mircea cant have another loss of that magnitude is my point, so hell do everything he can to RIG his own exchange to make sure it doesnt happen.
Apr 12 15:05:30 <Namworld>	I think I won about 350 BTC on options in March/April. Lost 200 in January/February tho
Apr 12 15:05:34 <tiberiusiv>	anyone trading on it is retarded.
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Apr 12 15:05:36 <Namworld>	Trying to short too much
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Apr 12 15:05:50 <Namworld>	But I haven't got lots on MPEx
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Apr 12 15:06:20 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: he's had more of a magnitude of that loss, see August 2012
Apr 12 15:06:27 <thestringpuller>	so like this is the 2nd time and mpex is still here?
Apr 12 15:06:42 <tiberiusiv>	no he hasnt
Apr 12 15:06:51 <tiberiusiv>	last month was the largest loss in bitcoin history EX pirate
Apr 12 15:07:06 <tiberiusiv>	pirate took i think 50,000 coins?
Apr 12 15:07:14 <lippoper1>	broke 86
Apr 12 15:07:18 <lippoper1>	;;ticker
Apr 12 15:07:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.66975, Best ask: 86.52356, Bid-ask spread: 3.85381, Last trade: 82.66975, 24 hour volume: 431290.95680419, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.14193
Apr 12 15:07:42 <lippoper1>	imminent crash?
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Apr 12 15:08:24 <tiberiusiv>	doubt it lippoper
Apr 12 15:08:28 <tiberiusiv>	there arent many coins on offer
Apr 12 15:08:38 <mircea_popescu>	so going up kinda ?
Apr 12 15:08:51 <pigeons>	if it happened before tiberiusiv got here, like the other mpbor bond loss month, it didnt really happen
Apr 12 15:08:58 <tiberiusiv>	with the massive volume yesterday and support strong around 50-60 i *think* the worst is over
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Apr 12 15:09:21 <tiberiusiv>	yesterday was capitulation with the 400k+ record volume on mtgox
Apr 12 15:09:52 <tiberiusiv>	over 5% of all btc coins in circulation traded if you count all exchanges
Apr 12 15:10:01 <tiberiusiv>	which is huge
Apr 12 15:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	actuyally there were 2 loss months
Apr 12 15:10:08 <mircea_popescu>	one lost like 5 btc or something
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Apr 12 15:10:38 <pigeons>	no that didnt happen either
Apr 12 15:10:40 <pigeons>	gypsy
Apr 12 15:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	say, did you add my twitter to "humor" pigeons ?
Apr 12 15:11:30 <pigeons>	yeah i needed to make lists to organize
Apr 12 15:11:40 <pigeons>	you're in there with roger ver and realsolid
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Apr 12 15:12:00 <pigeons>	laughing is good for health
Apr 12 15:12:51 <mircea_popescu>	omg fag
Apr 12 15:13:36 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 15:13:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.01000, Best ask: 85.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 85.20000, 24 hour volume: 434993.64973390, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.17972
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Apr 12 15:13:46 <thestringpuller>	bulls are back?
Apr 12 15:14:13 <error4733>	;;eightball bulls are back?
Apr 12 15:14:14 <gribble>	Yes!
Apr 12 15:15:25 <thestringpuller>	hahahahahahaha
Apr 12 15:15:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 12 15:15:45 <Namworld>	worst might be over but it seems we've established a downward trend
Apr 12 15:15:47 <guruvan>	sweet. go gribble
Apr 12 15:16:01 <MJR_>	hmmm
Apr 12 15:16:04 <MJR_>	deon't know about that
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Apr 12 15:16:27 <MJR_>	if you take now, and connect it to the 1st, or march 15th, or march 1st...its an upward trend
Apr 12 15:16:47 <MJR_>	and i think the 200 day, 50 day simple moving averages are all trending up overal
Apr 12 15:16:49 <pigeons>	there hasn't been a buying opportunity this good in weeks! as max would say
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Apr 12 15:17:22 <mircea_popescu>	why do i get the feeling pigeons and jcpham are in the same trollclub
Apr 12 15:17:39 <Namworld>	myeah, but as of now, crash isn't slowing down one bit
Apr 12 15:18:12 <tiberiusiv>	namworld sure it is
Apr 12 15:18:15 <pigeons>	we're not, but i did nominate to induct jcpham to my trollclub since we lost a member
Apr 12 15:18:22 <pigeons>	didn't tell him yet though
Apr 12 15:18:30 <gesell>	the weekend brings no new funds end though perhaps there is enough sitting on the exchange that came in the past 2 days that no one wanted to put it.
Apr 12 15:18:33 <tiberiusiv>	there was massive support right on the 200 day moving which is in the 60's
Apr 12 15:18:55 <tiberiusiv>	like 4-5 tests of that zone occured under major volume on multiple venues
Apr 12 15:19:07 <kakobrekla>	faek!
Apr 12 15:19:10 <kakobrekla>	ups
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Apr 12 15:19:14 <tiberiusiv>	sellers are exhausted at this point and its evidenced with the lack of BTCs offered
Apr 12 15:19:18 <kakobrekla>	scrollback
Apr 12 15:19:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 12 15:19:34 <tiberiusiv>	the previous 90 day overbought condition ended over the last 2 days
Apr 12 15:20:04 <tiberiusiv>	reddit users were commiting suicide in droves yesterday
Apr 12 15:20:18 <Namworld>	It looks like we're losing 25 USD/BTC every 5-7 hours on average, up until now
Apr 12 15:20:30 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 15:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	well so we're screwed by the 13th
Apr 12 15:20:30 <tiberiusiv>	the price is unchanged in over 24hrs.
Apr 12 15:20:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.50001, Best ask: 83.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49999, Last trade: 83.00000, 24 hour volume: 436129.86770227, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.18694
Apr 12 15:20:36 <thestringpuller>	okay there it goes
Apr 12 15:20:40 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 15:20:40 <Namworld>	the asks are building, the bids are lowering...
Apr 12 15:20:41 <gribble>	81.02
Apr 12 15:20:41 <kakobrekla>	you cant lose 25 an hour anymore, youd be in negative
Apr 12 15:20:43 <pgp>	i agree regarding 200 MA...  tested and held - I thought it would break...  we still might retest...  friday nights are historically bad for BTC...
Apr 12 15:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	only cvause all the women are out getting drunk
Apr 12 15:20:59 <Namworld>	Every 5-7 hours...
Apr 12 15:21:04 <naemsi>	I note the 2011 correction was about 70% off and that held until gox got hacked
Apr 12 15:21:07 <tiberiusiv>	200 MA was tested under heavy volume multiple times
Apr 12 15:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	leaves you pussies to ruin the world's greatest noncurrency
Apr 12 15:21:13 <Namworld>	not every hour... although that can't realistically keep on
Apr 12 15:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	naemsi this is a good point.
Apr 12 15:21:32 <tiberiusiv>	namworld go back to buying network equipment lol
Apr 12 15:21:42 <tiberiusiv>	you couldnt trade your way out of a meeting with the natives
Apr 12 15:22:07 <Namworld>	But I called the top right...
Apr 12 15:22:34 <naemsi>	the parabolic moves and corrections basically mirror each other, but in 2011 a black swan came in too.
Apr 12 15:22:41 <Namworld>	Been going well so far. I'll stick with whatever I'm doing.
Apr 12 15:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/322791894411251712
Apr 12 15:22:53 <joeykrim>	naemsi, what are you using for charts?
Apr 12 15:22:54 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile
Apr 12 15:23:11 <tiberiusiv>	well markets are fractals
Apr 12 15:23:16 <tiberiusiv>	even the summer 15 to 9 event
Apr 12 15:23:21 <tiberiusiv>	is a smaller version of this
Apr 12 15:23:24 <naemsi>	joeykrim: bitcoincharts and excerpts posted on other sites
Apr 12 15:23:28 <pigeons>	wow i thought being a gypsy was bad, but that was before i heard that Namworld actually buys servers for his business, what a loser
Apr 12 15:23:38 <joeykrim>	naemsi, k thx
Apr 12 15:23:59 <Namworld>	what?
Apr 12 15:24:01 <naemsi>	joeykrim: although, I haven't been able to get the custom date feature to work lately.
Apr 12 15:24:15 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 15:24:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.56000, Best ask: 80.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 80.56000, 24 hour volume: 440061.19267461, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.17643
Apr 12 15:24:21 <Namworld>	Servers are good =P
Apr 12 15:24:28 <joeykrim>	bitcoincharts loads everything but the chart for me currently hah
Apr 12 15:24:38 <Namworld>	same for me
Apr 12 15:24:44 <Namworld>	been like that for some time
Apr 12 15:24:53 <tiberiusiv>	i think shorting the US stock market is a good bet right now
Apr 12 15:25:23 <guruvan>	volume is absoultely nuts everywhere
Apr 12 15:26:20 <mircea_popescu>	440k
Apr 12 15:26:26 <mircea_popescu>	if that ain't washing i dunno what is.
Apr 12 15:26:38 <guruvan>	still 82K @ btce too
Apr 12 15:26:51 <gesell>	what would be the issues with building an exchange where run using amazon cloud services partially, for the parts that get ddos'ed?
Apr 12 15:26:57 <Diablo-D3>	http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/MTGOXUSD
Apr 12 15:27:11 <gesell>	what tha!
Apr 12 15:27:18 <gesell>	boss!
Apr 12 15:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	lol everybody joins and drops that link since rthis morning.
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Apr 12 15:27:45 <gesell>	i hadnt seen it
Apr 12 15:27:51 <guruvan>	pretty big news, really
Apr 12 15:28:02 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 15:28:04 <gribble>	81.03
Apr 12 15:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	i still find the 0 volume funnay.
Apr 12 15:28:22 <joeykrim>	bitcoin been all over the news, cnbc and bloomberg  .. both are watched on big bank trading floors
Apr 12 15:28:45 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 15:28:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 81.00000, Best ask: 81.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 80.70000, 24 hour volume: 440400.82873140, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.17554
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Apr 12 15:30:29 <gesell>	cnbc price also masiively delayed
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Apr 12 15:32:19 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 15:32:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.10000, Best ask: 83.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 83.10000, 24 hour volume: 441114.24602293, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.17493
Apr 12 15:34:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00070384 = 12.5284 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 15:36:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0037333 = 3.7333 BTC [-]
Apr 12 15:36:52 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 15:36:54 <gribble>	81.03
Apr 12 15:37:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2222 @ 0.00373331 = 8.2954 BTC [+]
Apr 12 15:38:04 <InstantBTC>	what's driving sdice up so much?
Apr 12 15:38:22 <tiberiusiv>	the drop in BTC price fool.
Apr 12 15:38:35 <tiberiusiv>	lower btc price = higher sdice revenues
Apr 12 15:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	kidna low yet no ?
Apr 12 15:38:58 <InstantBTC>	ah well sweet. my sell order went through
Apr 12 15:38:59 <jborkl>	Over 2000 btc up so far this month
Apr 12 15:39:02 <tiberiusiv>	lower btc price means the minimum bet is easier to afford
Apr 12 15:39:06 <jborkl>	on SD
Apr 12 15:39:33 <jborkl>	not me, I mean SD profit
Apr 12 15:39:37 <tiberiusiv>	if prices stay low it should in theory increase
Apr 12 15:40:16 <InstantBTC>	I had a sell at 0.004xxxx something
Apr 12 15:40:17 <tiberiusiv>	sdice is a hedge against BTC price decline
Apr 12 15:40:45 <InstantBTC>	bought pretty low
Apr 12 15:40:47 <InstantBTC>	so im happy
Apr 12 15:40:48 <tiberiusiv>	although not a very good one
Apr 12 15:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	wd
Apr 12 15:40:56 <pigeons>	i thought yall said lew rockwell didnt like bitcoin? https://www.lewrockwell.com/donate/
Apr 12 15:41:42 <tiberiusiv>	schiff didnt like bitcoin
Apr 12 15:42:20 <topace>	mircea_popescu: im looking into ddos protection for havelock.. any recommendations ?
Apr 12 15:42:39 <topace>	i dont think we're big enough really to get a target on our back, but you can never be too prepared i suppose
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Apr 12 15:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	topace the correct way to handle this is to separate your trade engine physically,
Apr 12 15:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	and then have people routed through webservers.
Apr 12 15:44:04 <mircea_popescu>	if those pop you can always bring up amazon instances at the very least.
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Apr 12 15:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	have good encryptioon between trade engine and webservers - even if your users don't know gpg you do.
Apr 12 15:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	the stupid solution is to hire somebody like blacklotus i think were probably the best in the game.
Apr 12 15:45:12 <naemsi>	and then use a dictionary admin account password
Apr 12 15:45:26 <mircea_popescu>	and also have a huge pipe. i mean huge, 10gb dedicated +
Apr 12 15:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 268 @ 0.00373331 = 1.0005 BTC [+]
Apr 12 15:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00373332 = 3.7333 BTC [+]
Apr 12 15:46:23 <mircea_popescu>	alternatively if you're good with dns and micro routing stuff you can do your own dns scrubbing/round robining etc.
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Apr 12 16:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37191 @ 0.00070071 = 26.0601 BTC [-]
Apr 12 16:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00069795 = 20.2406 BTC [-]
Apr 12 16:08:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2909 @ 0.00069449 = 2.0203 BTC [-]
Apr 12 16:09:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00332445 = 3.3245 BTC [-]
Apr 12 16:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00332444 = 0.3324 BTC [-]
Apr 12 16:09:50 <taub>	gox lagging again
Apr 12 16:09:53 <taub>	no live orderbook data
Apr 12 16:10:00 <pigeons>	;;title http://lewrockwell.com/rogers/rogers259.html
Apr 12 16:10:01 <gribble>	The Bashful Bitcoin Numismatist by Mike (in Tokyo) Rogers
Apr 12 16:10:26 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 16:10:27 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 74.554788 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.149406960395 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 12 16:10:53 <topace>	mircea_popescu: thanks for the info... its not somethign i really want to dedicate time to, i'd be happy hiring a ddos protection compnay to be "on standby" should i ever need to route all the traffic to them
Apr 12 16:11:06 <taub>	lol pigeons
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Apr 12 16:13:19 <pizzaman1337>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 16:13:21 <gribble>	There are currently 56726218 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12020890.871 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0090 seconds
Apr 12 16:13:29 <pizzaman1337>	yay, money is back
Apr 12 16:14:33 <pgp>	i must say - i am pretty impressed with this move up - looking good..  I'd like to see heavier volume, but looking good so far...
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Apr 12 16:16:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [-]
Apr 12 16:17:09 <pullerofstrings>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 12 16:17:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.90251552 / 218.88143499 / 226.22012381 (14550 shares, 2,478.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Apr 12 16:27:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.02497 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 16:27:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.024977 BTC [+]
Apr 12 16:28:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 52 @ 0.025 = 1.3 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 16:33:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.0021 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 16:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2300 @ 0.00189999 = 4.37 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 16:40:22 <MJR_>	3rd CNBC story on bitcoins of the day
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Apr 12 16:40:51 <kakobrekla>	summary?
Apr 12 16:40:56 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 12 16:40:56 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 4 hours, 58 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 12 16:41:19 <Doffx>	He on vacation?
Apr 12 16:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol @bitcoinity announcement
Apr 12 16:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	im sure mtgox has an option.
Apr 12 16:41:58 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx afaik getting a new kid.
Apr 12 16:42:16 <Doffx>	Oh, sounds painful.
Apr 12 16:43:45 <thestringpuller>	kid isn't here yet
Apr 12 16:43:53 <thestringpuller>	too busy playing kerbal space program
Apr 12 16:44:14 <thestringpuller>	needs to play less kerbal space program and more replying to emails
Apr 12 16:44:26 <mircea_popescu>	da heck is kerbal ?
Apr 12 16:44:40 <Doffx>	haha
Apr 12 16:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.355 = 1.775 BTC [+]
Apr 12 16:47:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.355 BTC [+]
Apr 12 16:48:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: look it up
Apr 12 16:48:10 <thestringpuller>	but don't play it you might get addicted
Apr 12 16:48:15 <thestringpuller>	we may not see you for a few weeks
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Apr 12 16:48:23 <mircea_popescu>	im already playing poe
Apr 12 16:48:41 <mircea_popescu>	and i don't like nonmedieval games anyway
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Apr 12 16:54:16 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 16:54:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 91.10000, Best ask: 91.78900, Bid-ask spread: 0.68900, Last trade: 91.78900, 24 hour volume: 473553.42844556, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.68381
Apr 12 16:54:24 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 16:54:26 <gribble>	81.69
Apr 12 16:55:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00070384 = 18.7221 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 16:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 71 @ 0.35 = 24.85 BTC [-]
Apr 12 17:01:22 <dub>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c7cm8/my_girlfriend_just_left_me_over_bitcoins/
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Apr 12 17:01:34 <pigeons>	sorry to hear that dub
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Apr 12 17:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	why no ama ?
Apr 12 17:02:31 <mircea_popescu>	i wish to know your cocksize.
Apr 12 17:02:54 <Doffx>	lol, sure singlensad
Apr 12 17:03:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00111 BTC [-]
Apr 12 17:03:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00318 BTC [-]
Apr 12 17:03:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00319 = 0.0064 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:03:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0032 = 0.032 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:04:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 13 @ 0.00325 = 0.0423 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:04:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 86 @ 0.0033 = 0.2838 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:04:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 430 @ 0.0034 = 1.462 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:04:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 15 @ 0.0011 = 0.0165 BTC [-]
Apr 12 17:04:41 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Apr 12 17:04:44 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.20000000 / 1.32116279 / 1.60000000 (43 shares, 56.81000000 BTC), 7D: 0.75000001 / 1.46159329 / 1.93000000 (283 shares, 413.63090011 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.73321281 / 2.08000000 (812 shares, 1407.36880041 BTC)
Apr 12 17:05:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 14 @ 0.001033 = 0.0145 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 17:06:27 <tiberiusiv>	dub's girlfriend left him after his SDICE shares went from 7 to 3
Apr 12 17:06:40 <dub>	true story
Apr 12 17:06:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 74 @ 0.00386 = 0.2856 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:06:58 <tiberiusiv>	shes now been seen with voorhees
Apr 12 17:07:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 16 @ 0.00387 = 0.0619 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:07:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 89 @ 0.00388 = 0.3453 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:07:14 <mircea_popescu>	gotta read more trilema
Apr 12 17:07:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 62 @ 0.003999 = 0.2479 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:07:18 <mircea_popescu>	he'd have a gf still.
Apr 12 17:07:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 88 @ 0.00407 = 0.3582 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:07:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 18 @ 0.0042 = 0.0756 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:07:43 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 17:07:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.90000, Best ask: 87.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 87.90000, 24 hour volume: 478680.20339326, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.74689
Apr 12 17:09:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77239 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:09:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77239 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 17:11:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.7724 = 6.1792 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:11:47 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 12 17:11:56 <MJR_>	do you guys do fractional reserve?
Apr 12 17:12:00 <MJR_>	no, we do not
Apr 12 17:12:20 <MJR_>	This has significantly improved my confidence in you guys, good to hear.
Apr 12 17:12:33 <MJR_>	srsly? i don't think that they do, though its possible
Apr 12 17:12:53 <MJR_>	but who says "do you steal from me?" "no" "oh my gosh, thats great news, what a relief"
Apr 12 17:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	forum ppl.
Apr 12 17:13:27 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 17:13:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.75911, Best ask: 90.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24089, Last trade: 89.75911, 24 hour volume: 479489.02458761, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.75857
Apr 12 17:13:32 <guruvan>	keeps you safe to ask
Apr 12 17:14:19 <mircea_popescu>	originally i thought it'd be funny to follow a few domme type chicks on twitter
Apr 12 17:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	but they're retarded omg
Apr 12 17:15:06 <jborkl>	can I get a deposit flushed, thanks
Apr 12 17:15:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 12 17:15:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.97300, Best ask: 91.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02700, Last trade: 90.97300, 24 hour volume: 479856.71116619, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.76446
Apr 12 17:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed.
Apr 12 17:18:16 <jborkl>	Thanks mp, heading home for the weekend- that was a exciting week
Apr 12 17:18:54 <mircea_popescu>	indeed
Apr 12 17:19:35 <jborkl>	you up and down the GDP of a small country
Apr 12 17:19:38 <jborkl>	were
Apr 12 17:20:22 <mircea_popescu>	easy money.
Apr 12 17:20:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7724 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 17:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	btw, which one of you guys is Haroshi Dillemoto on twitter ?
Apr 12 17:25:08 <tiberiusiv>	that would be MJR_
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Apr 12 17:25:30 <pgp>	really?
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Apr 12 17:29:30 <tiberiusiv>	over 800,000 coins were traded in the last 24hrs lol
Apr 12 17:32:01 <maximian>	man, /r/bitcoin is overrun with total idiots now. Eternal September. Even bitcointalk is better.
Apr 12 17:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	o hi there.
Apr 12 17:32:55 <maximian>	hi
Apr 12 17:33:20 <maximian>	nice to see a bit of an uptick on s.dice
Apr 12 17:36:47 <mircea_popescu>	yee
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Apr 12 17:42:47 <Bugpowder>	sup
Apr 12 17:42:49 <Bugpowder>	homies
Apr 12 17:43:41 <Bugpowder>	everyone I know is trying to buy coins right now
Apr 12 17:43:52 <pizzaman1337>	they should be
Apr 12 17:44:46 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 17:44:46 <gribble>	There are currently 56666625 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13067580.3981 USD in total. | Data vintage: 108.9056 seconds
Apr 12 17:44:56 <Bugpowder>	no way
Apr 12 17:45:00 <Bugpowder>	13M?
Apr 12 17:45:00 <DeadWeasel>	:)
Apr 12 17:45:01 <pizzaman1337>	yeah way
Apr 12 17:45:05 <Bugpowder>	holy shit
Apr 12 17:45:12 <tiberiusiv>	sup bugpowder
Apr 12 17:45:13 <Bugpowder>	I'm going to go buy more
Apr 12 17:45:31 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 150
Apr 12 17:45:34 <gribble>	There are currently 34137.06 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 4141337.15248 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
Apr 12 17:45:44 <pizzaman1337>	;;asks 100
Apr 12 17:45:46 <gribble>	There are currently 4739.7457 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 471525.940785 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.1166 seconds
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Apr 12 17:48:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.399 BTC [+]
Apr 12 17:48:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 12 17:49:04 <Bugpowder>	watch this
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Apr 12 17:50:42 <Bugpowder>	Pushed it to 99.90
Apr 12 17:50:46 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Apr 12 17:50:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.50000, Best ask: 99.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 99.99000, 24 hour volume: 493362.79882472, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.11141
Apr 12 17:50:55 <maximian>	noice!
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Apr 12 17:53:21 <Bugpowder>	BOOM
Apr 12 17:53:26 <Bugpowder>	I didn't do that one
Apr 12 17:53:31 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
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Apr 12 17:53:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.10000, Best ask: 100.22687, Bid-ask spread: 0.12687, Last trade: 100.10000, 24 hour volume: 497663.79242144, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.25673
Apr 12 17:53:34 <swhitt>	forecasts?
Apr 12 17:53:37 <Bugpowder>	130
Apr 12 17:53:43 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 17:53:43 <gribble>	There are currently 56704246 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13053758.3575 USD in total. | Data vintage: 79.3349 seconds
Apr 12 17:54:06 <swhitt>	130 stable or 130 and then plummet?
Apr 12 17:54:29 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 12 17:54:30 <Bugpowder>	who knows
Apr 12 17:54:34 <swhitt>	indeed
Apr 12 17:55:06 <Bugpowder>	10 people have asked me for coins today
Apr 12 17:55:19 <swhitt>	yeah everyone has been asking me to buy today too
Apr 12 17:55:33 <swhitt>	'holy shit it's down to $60! can I buy 100?'
Apr 12 17:56:14 <maximian>	back to 200 within 14 days
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Apr 12 17:56:31 <swhitt>	hopefully it will take that long.
Apr 12 17:56:40 <swhitt>	bursting as quickly as it did is terrible
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Apr 12 17:58:01 <maximian>	I just see it as a blip. The long-term hype cycle has just started.
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Apr 12 17:58:26 <maximian>	the news coverage right now is amazing
Apr 12 17:58:51 <Bugpowder>	106
Apr 12 17:59:25 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 12 17:59:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.00000, Best ask: 102.96300, Bid-ask spread: 0.96300, Last trade: 103.40000, 24 hour volume: 501238.23050075, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.39519
Apr 12 17:59:53 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 17:59:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.00000, Best ask: 102.10198, Bid-ask spread: 0.10198, Last trade: 102.00000, 24 hour volume: 501238.23050075, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.39519
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Apr 12 18:01:43 <thestringpuller>	;;bids
Apr 12 18:01:45 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 12 18:01:48 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 1
Apr 12 18:01:49 <gribble>	There are currently 754918.89 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 12939608.1286 USD in total. | Data vintage: 22.9690 seconds
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Apr 12 18:05:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00070384 = 15.9772 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 18:10:53 <pgp>	gox 24 hour volume 505k  wow
Apr 12 18:11:30 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 18:11:31 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 64.555535 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.12936856934 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 12 18:11:46 <kakobrekla>	didnt they do some upgrade
Apr 12 18:13:30 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 12 18:13:31 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 9047404.26378 based on data since last change | 9238989.55036 based on data for last three days
Apr 12 18:14:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 12 18:14:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.00000, Best ask: 103.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 101.00000, 24 hour volume: 509067.04682345, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.69682
Apr 12 18:14:24 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Apr 12 18:14:47 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 80
Apr 12 18:14:47 <gribble>	There are currently 25593.162 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 2234005.00875 USD in total. | Data vintage: 106.2894 seconds
Apr 12 18:14:58 <ThickAsThieves>	cool
Apr 12 18:15:13 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 120
Apr 12 18:15:16 <gribble>	There are currently 16136.507 bitcoins offered at or under 120.0 USD, worth 1774675.36724 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0026 seconds
Apr 12 18:15:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00070384 = 5.2788 BTC [+]
Apr 12 18:15:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00072159 = 3.8966 BTC [+]
Apr 12 18:15:27 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
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Apr 12 18:20:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7698 BTC [-]
Apr 12 18:20:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
Apr 12 18:21:27 <MJR_>	back at one hundred :)
Apr 12 18:22:39 <punkman1>	but... they told me bitcoin was dead
Apr 12 18:22:49 <punkman1>	how can it be
Apr 12 18:24:01 <error4733>	ded chicken
Apr 12 18:24:04 <error4733>	dead
Apr 12 18:24:12 <kakobrekla>	fly chickun
Apr 12 18:24:22 <ThickAsThieves>	nice price to resume from i hope everyone made it thru even or better
Apr 12 18:24:31 <error4733>	they can move 10min without head
Apr 12 18:24:34 <kakobrekla>	someone wrote that in the trollbox
Apr 12 18:24:38 <kakobrekla>	and it has become a local meme
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Apr 12 18:26:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i also hope the optobot calms back to reasonable prices soon
Apr 12 18:26:28 <thestringpuller>	stop buying this time when mircea_popescu tells you to
Apr 12 18:26:41 <thestringpuller>	stop listening to the media!
Apr 12 18:26:52 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 12 18:26:53 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 6 hours, 44 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 12 18:27:16 <ThickAsThieves>	lucif is the real hero hecalledboth the bottom and the top
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Apr 12 18:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	aww back over 100 ?
Apr 12 18:27:32 <mircea_popescu>	sucks. i was getting all ready to bump fee to 50
Apr 12 18:27:51 <maximian>	do it anyway
Apr 12 18:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	what a wonderful day to raise the fee
Apr 12 18:28:09 <maximian>	the complaints will be worth it
Apr 12 18:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	let's do it twice!
Apr 12 18:28:13 <ThickAsThieves>	mp will ubemad again if we hit 130?
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Apr 12 18:28:29 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i shall smite the offenders with my mighty rod
Apr 12 18:28:51 <ThickAsThieves>	what if we ask permission?
Apr 12 18:29:09 <ThickAsThieves>	mircea may i
Apr 12 18:29:16 <pgp>	yikes...  coins selling...
Apr 12 18:29:48 <mircea_popescu>	may the bird of happiness fly up your nose
Apr 12 18:31:17 <MJR_>	where has smickles been???
Apr 12 18:32:14 <ThickAsThieves>	ive git a tx with 18 confsstill not showing in my havelock
Apr 12 18:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell eeeCurrency https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161236.0
Apr 12 18:32:37 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Apr 12 18:34:39 <mircea_popescu>	"Dear Investor; welcome to our interim report."
Apr 12 18:34:51 <mircea_popescu>	usagi is reporting profits trading silver o.o
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Apr 12 18:35:18 <KRS1>	where the hell is gribble's sawedoff ass at
Apr 12 18:35:28 <KRS1>	oh he here
Apr 12 18:35:30 <Doffx>	Wouldn't it be a loss?
Apr 12 18:35:36 <Doffx>	Silver went down 1.40
Apr 12 18:35:51 <Doffx>	No worse 1.71
Apr 12 18:36:18 <Doffx>	Great time to buy silver
Apr 12 18:36:27 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx the only person acrtually following usagi in earnest is deprived
Apr 12 18:36:33 <Doffx>	Haha
Apr 12 18:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	and he's not weighed in yet so dunno
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Apr 12 18:37:01 <Doffx>	Wel if he reay bought when BTC was at 260 and silver was 29 he made out like a bandit
Apr 12 18:37:05 <Doffx>	even with the loss in silver
Apr 12 18:37:15 <Doffx>	Silver will hit 150+ someday
Apr 12 18:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	o is that what he's claiming ?
Apr 12 18:39:15 <Bugpowder>	gold at $1476?!
Apr 12 18:40:07 <mircea_popescu>	everything fell
Apr 12 18:40:07 <Doffx>	Thats what he said to me on IRC yes
Apr 12 18:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	even oil fell.
Apr 12 18:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141262.0 they want you
Apr 12 18:40:17 <Doffx>	Yeah gold is a steal too
Apr 12 18:40:30 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, i think gold will be pushed further.
Apr 12 18:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	if cypriot gold makes it to market, and esp if  followed by portugal gold
Apr 12 18:40:55 <Doffx>	I think both silver and gold may go much lower
Apr 12 18:41:02 <mircea_popescu>	that's like 300 tons portugal holds.
Apr 12 18:41:04 <Doffx>	However its a steal even at this current price
Apr 12 18:41:21 <Bugpowder>	;;bids
Apr 12 18:41:33 <Doffx>	We broke gribble
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Apr 12 18:42:04 <Bugpowder>	well there were 13.1M last time I checked and its still building
Apr 12 18:42:17 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 18:42:35 <thestringpuller>	;;gribble
Apr 12 18:42:36 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Apr 12 18:42:43 <Doffx>	haha
Apr 12 18:42:51 <Doffx>	I have never seen that one.
Apr 12 18:43:09 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 12 18:43:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00389971 BTC [+]
Apr 12 18:44:03 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175137.0
Apr 12 18:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	the typical gox user emerges
Apr 12 18:44:19 <Doffx>	Anyone know if I am able to put a sell order, then a buy order, then another sell order and so on in Gox and it be smart enough to buy sell in the order I said?
Apr 12 18:44:38 <Doffx>	I have not used Gox since 2011
Apr 12 18:44:59 <mircea_popescu>	seems it'd sort by prices.
Apr 12 18:45:01 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 12 18:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	"Since there was no real proof of any btc-e account hack, i think that you are making panic. Any account compromentation because of user`s stupidness has no relation to exchange."
Apr 12 18:45:23 <pizzaman1337>	that's so russian
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Apr 12 18:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 12 18:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174403.0 << anyone know what this btc-e stuff is all about ?
Apr 12 18:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	are they going under or something ?
Apr 12 18:47:42 <pizzaman1337>	I think they recently changed it so that you can only login with your email address instead of your username, and many users apparently forgot what email they used to sign up, so...
Apr 12 18:48:17 <Troic>	The whole 'service discussion' area is a littany of woe
Apr 12 18:48:28 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: i love that so many contracts have been sold/written/bought etc that the interest is up sky high
Apr 12 18:48:36 <thestringpuller>	the bot won't price under .27
Apr 12 18:48:37 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 12 18:48:44 <thestringpuller>	.28*
Apr 12 18:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	it's just the volatility.
Apr 12 18:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 o that's what it is ?
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Apr 12 18:50:03 <Bugpowder>	14M
Apr 12 18:50:07 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 12 18:50:09 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067363 / 0.00069764 / 0.00073 (586629 shares, 409.26 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00068982 / 0.00073 (2085980 shares, 1,438.97 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068862 / 0.00077505 (10252242 shares, 7,059.97 BTC)
Apr 12 18:51:00 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: yeah, there seem to be some unhappy people here: https://btc-e.com/news/136
Apr 12 18:51:37 <thestringpuller>	;;estimate
Apr 12 18:51:39 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 9054407.82133 based on data since last change | 9287055.97634 based on data for last three days
Apr 12 18:51:41 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Apr 12 18:51:49 <Bugpowder>	all exchanges are shit
Apr 12 18:51:49 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231048 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 791 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 15 hours, 23 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9054407.82133 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.00349
Apr 12 18:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	"STILL NO RESPONSE after 2 days. This support is extra lousy. Still I cannot login because I used a disposable email for registering
Apr 12 18:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	A WARNING WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE BEFORE YOU CHANGE THE LOGIN!!!!
Apr 12 18:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	now I cannot login the account that I own even though I got username and password!! Any support here AT all?"
Apr 12 18:51:52 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Apr 12 18:52:56 <mircea_popescu>	"first, we execute. then, we gather market data and figure wtf to do about it."
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Apr 12 18:54:02 <punkman1>	who else is having a case of success now? btc-e, btc24, anyone else?
Apr 12 18:54:20 <mircea_popescu>	"Isn't the confirmation only sent to the new email address? I discovered today that I had mistyped my email when I registered, but since no email confirmation was necessary, I didn't notice it until I was unable to log in today."
Apr 12 18:54:34 <mircea_popescu>	this is really otherwordly.
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Apr 12 18:58:46 <ll>	dunno if id use a disposable email on a site like taht
Apr 12 18:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	looks shady enough neh ?
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Apr 12 19:00:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6735 @ 0.00071364 = 4.8064 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 19:00:56 <ll>	yep
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Apr 12 19:01:46 <ll>	cue conspiracy theory of them ddosing so they could pull off this "hack"
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Apr 12 19:02:47 <mircea_popescu>	o that;s there already.
Apr 12 19:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the most frustrating thing about mtgox incompetence is just how much worse the competitors are.
Apr 12 19:04:57 <Bugpowder>	yup
Apr 12 19:05:11 <mod6>	ya
Apr 12 19:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... i kinda like the bitcoin-central ppl for their bank partner thing.
Apr 12 19:06:09 <mircea_popescu>	but they gave everyone a shit of a scare just now
Apr 12 19:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	the russians seem all over the place in a vodka induced frenzy that lasts the week
Apr 12 19:06:58 <mircea_popescu>	bitfloor is run by a single perambulatory point of failure who is a smart kid with good tech skills but then does takiesque things to walletsd
Apr 12 19:07:21 <Diablo-D3>	wait
Apr 12 19:07:25 <Diablo-D3>	Ive heard this story before
Apr 12 19:07:42 <Diablo-D3>	bitcoinica!
Apr 12 19:07:54 <KRS1>	wtf this shit was supposed to crash down again
Apr 12 19:08:08 <KRS1>	Imma have to pull out my gatt on some nigga now
Apr 12 19:08:23 <Diablo-D3>	MagicalTux is japanese
Apr 12 19:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	he's not
Apr 12 19:08:32 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 19:08:36 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 190.632593 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.382025581943 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Apr 12 19:08:42 <Diablo-D3>	so you need to pull out your gatt on some gap.
Apr 12 19:08:43 <mircea_popescu>	just some otaku living the dream of being in japan afaik
Apr 12 19:08:44 <Diablo-D3>	er, jap
Apr 12 19:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	pgp just think if the engine weren't 50x faster
Apr 12 19:09:04 <Diablo-D3>	so, I had a nice racist joke lined upd, and I fudged it.
Apr 12 19:09:10 <mircea_popescu>	lag would be 10`000 seconds right now. THREE HOURS
Apr 12 19:09:19 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 19:09:20 <KRS1>	shieeet...i dont be known no nigga i gotta go overseas fo...but i betta not see they ass in the hood...
Apr 12 19:09:33 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: man, whats with otakus anyhow
Apr 12 19:09:35 <thestringpuller>	;;seen jurov
Apr 12 19:09:36 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 9 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <jurov> yes. just strike - vwap .
Apr 12 19:09:37 <Diablo-D3>	I enjoy anime as much as the next guy
Apr 12 19:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	they're like gypos w/o skillz
Apr 12 19:09:41 <Diablo-D3>	but I have not learned japanaese
Apr 12 19:09:43 <KRS1>	and gribble ass too
Apr 12 19:10:17 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, like, otakus want, like, little sisters. those perverts.
Apr 12 19:10:28 <Diablo-D3>	and never giant robots.
Apr 12 19:10:34 <Diablo-D3>	rarely is there a giant robot otaku
Apr 12 19:10:37 <Diablo-D3>	and that makes me sad
Apr 12 19:11:00 <mircea_popescu>	think Diablo-D3 : a giant mining robot
Apr 12 19:11:02 <mircea_popescu>	solar powered.
Apr 12 19:11:03 <Bugpowder>	I went all in about an hour ago
Apr 12 19:11:16 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 19:11:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.76611, Best ask: 109.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23389, Last trade: 109.00000, 24 hour volume: 537506.26393819, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 84.68414
Apr 12 19:11:21 <Diablo-D3>	actually, theres a gundam thats _moon_ powered
Apr 12 19:11:32 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 19:11:32 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 123.359415 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.247210886459 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 12 19:11:51 <pgp>	this is worse than it's been all day - i think...
Apr 12 19:12:33 <thestringpuller>	after too many orders go in
Apr 12 19:12:51 <pgp>	.01 BTC orders...
Apr 12 19:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	pgp why guess ? http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
Apr 12 19:14:56 <pgp>	nice - never seen this page...
Apr 12 19:15:48 <kakobrekla>	its new
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Apr 12 19:16:27 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
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Apr 12 19:16:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 106.24000, Best ask: 106.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 106.24000, 24 hour volume: 539648.85921413, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 84.77927
Apr 12 19:17:01 <orkaa>	i take requests for new graphs if anyone's got something in mind
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Apr 12 19:17:51 <pgp>	overlay of prices from all major exchanges
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Apr 12 19:18:25 <orkaa>	http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/both/
Apr 12 19:18:30 <orkaa>	you've got mtgox and bitstamp here
Apr 12 19:18:40 <orkaa>	i can add others i guess..
Apr 12 19:18:53 <orkaa>	what would you want the most?
Apr 12 19:18:54 <pgp>	cool
Apr 12 19:19:09 <kakobrekla>	width of your anal hole over time
Apr 12 19:19:12 <pgp>	prolly BTC-e and bitfloor
Apr 12 19:19:25 <orkaa>	kakobrekla: hard to measure
Apr 12 19:19:25 <pgp>	forget campbx
Apr 12 19:19:38 <mircea_popescu>	use a measuring stick ?
Apr 12 19:20:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18798 @ 0.00071364 = 13.415 BTC [-]
Apr 12 19:20:22 <orkaa>	mircea_popescu: i'd hate to do it myself
Apr 12 19:20:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.77 = 6.16 BTC [+]
Apr 12 19:20:34 <pgp>	stacked bar graph of exchange volumes underneath
Apr 12 19:21:03 <pizzaman1337>	that'd be nice
Apr 12 19:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol a new service is born
Apr 12 19:21:41 <kakobrekla>	and keep the name
Apr 12 19:21:50 <kakobrekla>	its what i say often when i look at those charts
Apr 12 19:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 12 19:22:15 <orkaa>	http://jezus.si/
Apr 12 19:22:16 <mircea_popescu>	the true bitcoin jezuz
Apr 12 19:22:21 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 19:22:28 <pgp>	jesus!
Apr 12 19:22:37 <kakobrekla>	jesus look at that lag!
Apr 12 19:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	in other news http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136580751244.jpg
Apr 12 19:22:45 <kakobrekla>	jesus bitcoin is 1$!
Apr 12 19:22:51 <kakobrekla>	jesus dub got filled!
Apr 12 19:23:03 <pgp>	fuck jesus!
Apr 12 19:23:43 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 19:23:44 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 65.136176 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.130532167403 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 12 19:23:50 <orkaa>	mircea_popescu: what's up with adria richards? who won the prize?
Apr 12 19:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	orkaa http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rape-is-fun-or-lets-fuck-up-adria-richards/#comment-92655
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Apr 12 19:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	heh. blockchain.info is down of course
Apr 12 19:25:09 <mircea_popescu>	someone should write a calculator for the relative frequency of an arbitrary selection of critical pieces of bitcoin infrastructure bering online at the same time
Apr 12 19:25:16 <mircea_popescu>	"any 3 once a week. any 5 once a year"
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Apr 12 19:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	offer it like bets.
Apr 12 19:25:23 <orkaa>	haha, all n00bs
Apr 12 19:25:33 <orkaa>	i was trying to convice a friend of mine
Apr 12 19:25:39 <orkaa>	who does photoshop for a living
Apr 12 19:25:45 <orkaa>	but she said it was bad karma
Apr 12 19:25:46 <orkaa>	bah.
Apr 12 19:25:55 <pizzaman1337>	that'd promote DDoSing to win the bet though, mircea
Apr 12 19:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	you know a girl ?!
Apr 12 19:26:19 <orkaa>	:*
Apr 12 19:26:20 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 i guess it would.
Apr 12 19:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.35 = 1.4 BTC [-]
Apr 12 19:29:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.346 = 1.038 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 19:29:53 <mircea_popescu>	i think this was the only photoshop contest in history with 2.5k usd as top prize
Apr 12 19:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	it paid out on the 8th, if winner had the sense to sell on the 10th or w/e
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Apr 12 19:31:42 <orkaa>	yeah, the prize was great
Apr 12 19:32:01 <orkaa>	that's why it's weird only noobs responded
Apr 12 19:32:29 <MJR_>	dude
Apr 12 19:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	well... karma i guess
Apr 12 19:32:38 <MJR_>	just saw a great interview on cnbc
Apr 12 19:32:52 <MJR_>	larry kudlow was actually fair, and it was balanced as well as mostly accurate
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Apr 12 19:33:13 <mircea_popescu>	good thing.
Apr 12 19:33:28 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 12 19:33:39 <MJR_>	he basically ended the segment by saying "i think its the future"
Apr 12 19:33:46 <MJR_>	all 3 panelists were fans
Apr 12 19:33:55 <MJR_>	right wingers...basically anti-fed
Apr 12 19:34:04 <MJR_>	but i think we can all get behind that sentiment
Apr 12 19:34:37 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno... i don't think the fed per se is the problem.
Apr 12 19:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	it being run by politicians and idiots more like it.
Apr 12 19:34:55 <MJR_>	well yes
Apr 12 19:35:00 *	chippewa-adm is now known as wences
Apr 12 19:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	if run by people with a clue it can be a serious strength for the fiat currency.
Apr 12 19:35:14 <MJR_>	same difference...central bank means control...means idiots and politicians
Apr 12 19:35:22 <MJR_>	i agree, it would be nice
Apr 12 19:35:29 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 19:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	i have the convenient example iof romania's cb.
Apr 12 19:35:33 <MJR_>	just unlikely..absolute power and all that
Apr 12 19:35:43 <MJR_>	print button is too tempting
Apr 12 19:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	it's been run as an absolute fief by the same guy for 25 years now
Apr 12 19:35:58 <mircea_popescu>	and it's been pretty much the one stalwart keeping the country afloat.
Apr 12 19:36:12 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 19:36:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.00000, Best ask: 110.31428, Bid-ask spread: 0.31428, Last trade: 110.31428, 24 hour volume: 546853.70618701, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 85.08767
Apr 12 19:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	not all the time, but plenty of times.
Apr 12 19:37:23 <pgp>	bitcoinity has been behind all day...
Apr 12 19:39:33 <error4733>	he asked ppl to send a mail to gox
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Apr 12 19:39:55 <error4733>	to refresh more often the api
Apr 12 19:40:09 <mircea_popescu>	notice's gone tho. did he get threatened ?
Apr 12 19:40:47 <pgp>	yeah, but other have more updated data...  service is prolly overloaded...
Apr 12 19:41:09 <kakobrekla>	i think i found another bug in bitstamp trading engine
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Apr 12 19:41:25 <kakobrekla>	but whatever
Apr 12 19:41:26 <pgp>	what's that?
Apr 12 19:41:44 <KRS1>	anyone here trying to use cacti for graphs
Apr 12 19:43:43 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 12 19:43:46 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Apr 12 19:44:19 <kakobrekla>	looks like someone made a sell priced very low and i managed to scalp him by his ask price somefuckinghow
Apr 12 19:44:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 1.90001 BTC [-]
Apr 12 19:45:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [-]
Apr 12 19:45:19 <pgp>	huh?
Apr 12 19:45:20 <KRS1>	orkaa- those graphs use rrd hmm...nice
Apr 12 19:45:30 <pizzaman1337>	maybe they check to see if there's an order that == that exactly before checking to see if there's a "better" order
Apr 12 19:45:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7723 BTC [+]
Apr 12 19:46:08 <pgp>	that would be strange indeed...
Apr 12 19:46:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7724 = 2.3172 BTC [+]
Apr 12 19:46:17 <KRS1>	i just ordered pizza
Apr 12 19:46:25 <KRS1>	they didn't take bitcoin
Apr 12 19:46:33 <pgp>	i just cracked open another beer
Apr 12 19:47:06 <pgp>	some week, huh?
Apr 12 19:47:30 <KRS1>	lol some folks lost their ass this week....lmao
Apr 12 19:47:48 <pgp>	yep...
Apr 12 19:47:59 <pgp>	old saying on wall street:
Apr 12 19:48:14 <pgp>	bull can make money, bears can make money...
Apr 12 19:48:17 <kakobrekla>	it went like this, price was 95 and bids and asks all around, i placed a buy priced by ask at 95, when page reloaded, i saw in the book order for 85 and my order for 95 and regular orders below
Apr 12 19:48:23 <pgp>	pigs just get slaughtered...
Apr 12 19:48:28 <KRS1>	greed
Apr 12 19:48:34 <kakobrekla>	my order got split into two
Apr 12 19:48:34 <KRS1>	they deserve it too
Apr 12 19:48:42 <kakobrekla>	one 95 one 85
Apr 12 19:48:45 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 12 19:48:46 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.90251552 / 218.88143499 / 226.22012381 (14550 shares, 2,478.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 12 19:48:58 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 19:49:00 <gribble>	84.50
Apr 12 19:49:12 <KRS1>	whats the spread like
Apr 12 19:49:28 <pgp>	slovenian matching engines...
Apr 12 19:49:38 <kakobrekla>	hey
Apr 12 19:49:49 <kakobrekla>	got a problem with slovenians? :)
Apr 12 19:49:59 <pgp>	jk
Apr 12 19:50:13 <pgp>	spent a lot of time the actually
Apr 12 19:50:22 <pgp>	love it there
Apr 12 19:50:28 <kakobrekla>	but the engines suck!
Apr 12 19:50:37 <KRS1>	dont the slavs have a lot of problems right now
Apr 12 19:50:52 <kakobrekla>	with what
Apr 12 19:51:24 <KRS1>	neighboring countries?? idk..maybe I'm wrong..gotta read up
Apr 12 19:51:31 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Apr 12 19:51:39 <kakobrekla>	there are problems but there always are here
Apr 12 19:52:18 <KRS1>	im just a stupid American, but from what I know about you guys is that you are robust people..strong.
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Apr 12 19:52:52 <KRS1>	problems with terrorism?
Apr 12 19:53:02 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 12 19:53:08 <kakobrekla>	terrorists dont know where slovenia is
Apr 12 19:53:16 <kakobrekla>	how will they bomb it
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Apr 12 19:54:11 <KRS1>	heh
Apr 12 19:54:24 <KRS1>	you know what now i am going to read ..and learn a little.
Apr 12 19:54:24 <kakobrekla>	even cnn showed slovakia few years ago talking about slovenia
Apr 12 19:54:33 <kakobrekla>	its jurov who will get fucked
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Apr 12 19:55:14 <pgp>	slevenia is a beautiful country...  truly
Apr 12 19:55:49 <KRS1>	no offense, but i was confused with somalia
Apr 12 19:55:56 <kakobrekla>	LMAO
Apr 12 19:56:01 <KRS1>	=(
Apr 12 19:56:02 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 19:56:07 <pgp>	no
Apr 12 19:56:16 <pgp>	now THATS funny
Apr 12 19:56:24 <kakobrekla>	lemme check here, pgp you sure you werent in somalia/slovakia/somethingelse?
Apr 12 19:56:33 <KRS1>	ok so there goes my ignorance.
Apr 12 19:56:40 <pgp>	slovenia
Apr 12 19:56:45 <mod6>	ahh, somalia: Yaaar!
Apr 12 19:56:58 <KRS1>	wow different contenents
Apr 12 19:57:07 <pgp>	used to go to kranjska gora every summer as a kid
Apr 12 19:57:14 <kakobrekla>	but apparenlty same planet
Apr 12 19:57:26 <kakobrekla>	pgp :)
Apr 12 19:57:32 <KRS1>	u are lucky pgp..
Apr 12 19:57:35 <KRS1>	haha
Apr 12 19:57:35 <kakobrekla>	you got roots here?
Apr 12 19:57:37 <pgp>	had family in ljubljana..
Apr 12 19:57:47 <kakobrekla>	oh
Apr 12 19:57:50 <pgp>	my mother is from Dubrovnik
Apr 12 19:57:58 <KRS1>	my culteral interaction ends with the Cubans who have taken over South Florida, U.S.
Apr 12 19:58:08 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 19:58:27 <pgp>	spent my summers in croatia as kid
Apr 12 19:58:38 <kakobrekla>	so you know some slovenian/croatian?
Apr 12 19:58:47 <pgp>	but we alway went up to slovenia for a couple of weeks
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Apr 12 19:58:55 <pgp>	triglave also awesome
Apr 12 19:59:02 <kakobrekla>	dober dan, dve pivi prosim ?
Apr 12 19:59:17 <pgp>	good day, two beers please
Apr 12 19:59:28 <kakobrekla>	haha
Apr 12 19:59:30 <kakobrekla>	cool
Apr 12 19:59:32 <pgp>	that's about the extent of it though
Apr 12 19:59:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1049 @ 0.00072159 = 0.7569 BTC [+]
Apr 12 19:59:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8163 @ 0.00072244 = 5.8973 BTC [+]
Apr 12 20:00:28 <pgp>	my wife LOVES slovenia - spent part of our honeymoon there...
Apr 12 20:00:46 <orkaa>	hah :)
Apr 12 20:00:47 <kakobrekla>	good, so you have a place picked out when you move out of states
Apr 12 20:00:49 <orkaa>	small world
Apr 12 20:01:31 <pgp>	yeah, when I need to flee the oppression of the US federal govt...
Apr 12 20:01:36 <kakobrekla>	;)
Apr 12 20:02:07 <orkaa>	pgp: have you seen our prime minister? :)
Apr 12 20:02:09 <orkaa>	http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/business/2013/04/10/qmb-intv-slovenian-prime-minister.cnn#/video/business/2013/04/10/qmb-intv-slovenian-prime-minister.cnn
Apr 12 20:02:26 <orkaa>	it's a good laugh
Apr 12 20:03:04 <kakobrekla>	OMG
Apr 12 20:03:19 <kakobrekla>	shame on you showing that around! hehe
Apr 12 20:03:41 <kakobrekla>	maybe we are in somalia really.
Apr 12 20:03:46 <orkaa>	hehe
Apr 12 20:04:00 <pgp>	hmmm
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Apr 12 20:04:30 <KRS1>	told u i was an ignorant American
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Apr 12 20:04:48 <KRS1>	most of us have little cultural experience or knowledge imo
Apr 12 20:04:52 <kakobrekla>	o, 119 gox
Apr 12 20:05:11 <kakobrekla>	too bad they didnt mix up slovenia and slovakia this time OgNasty
Apr 12 20:05:12 <kakobrekla>	eh
Apr 12 20:05:13 <kakobrekla>	orkaa
Apr 12 20:05:16 <pizzaman1337>	it's going up like, what, $10 an hour?
Apr 12 20:05:33 <KRS1>	haha what can i say :/
Apr 12 20:05:44 <gesell>	whatt, m.mtgox.com's ssl certificate expired?
Apr 12 20:05:58 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 12 20:05:58 <KRS1>	gesell: that ticket is low pri
Apr 12 20:05:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.50000, Best ask: 119.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 119.00000, 24 hour volume: 559835.24447548, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 85.77785
Apr 12 20:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2999 @ 0.00389971 = 11.6952 BTC [+]
Apr 12 20:06:29 <gesell>	KRS1: was fine earlier (10 min ago) just not expired
Apr 12 20:06:31 <orkaa>	kakobrekla: maybe we'll receive the financial help meant for slovakia
Apr 12 20:06:43 <KRS1>	the time/date could be off on their server
Apr 12 20:07:00 <KRS1>	or your PC
Apr 12 20:07:18 <kakobrekla>	hum
Apr 12 20:07:20 <kakobrekla>	;;bids 100
Apr 12 20:07:20 <gribble>	There are currently 7895.3764 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 839129.6212 USD in total. | Data vintage: 102.7756 seconds
Apr 12 20:07:35 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Apr 12 20:07:38 <kakobrekla>	its getting thin
Apr 12 20:07:43 <kakobrekla>	streched
Apr 12 20:07:47 <pgp>	wow - rough interview for slovenia PM...
Apr 12 20:07:53 <troc_>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 20:07:54 <gribble>	There are currently 55596669 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14043877.4363 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.9425 seconds
Apr 12 20:07:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1465 @ 0.0039 = 5.7135 BTC [+]
Apr 12 20:08:11 <KRS1>	im not getting cert error
Apr 12 20:08:12 <kakobrekla>	orkaa when did that coime out
Apr 12 20:08:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0039 BTC [+]
Apr 12 20:08:24 <orkaa>	kakobrekla: few days ago?
Apr 12 20:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	you know slovenia contributed the word slovenly to the english language ?
Apr 12 20:08:31 <kakobrekla>	pgp yeah its retarded
Apr 12 20:08:38 <mircea_popescu>	apparently w/e mercenaries/whores were really dirty.
Apr 12 20:08:39 <orkaa>	not even a week i think
Apr 12 20:08:55 <kakobrekla>	urlpls mircea_popescu
Apr 12 20:09:11 <kakobrekla>	;;ud slovenly
Apr 12 20:09:12 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slovenly | Mar 11, 2003 ... 1. slovenly. adjective describing one who is a mess; see slob. that one heavy kid is simply slovenly. buy slovenly mugs & shirts. by big pun Mar ...
Apr 12 20:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=slovenly
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Apr 12 20:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00071901 = 7.7653 BTC [-]
Apr 12 20:09:38 <kakobrekla>	lolz
Apr 12 20:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	>D
Apr 12 20:09:48 <kakobrekla>	its true. :\
Apr 12 20:10:13 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 20:10:22 <orkaa>	this is new to me, lol
Apr 12 20:10:24 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 20:10:25 <gribble>	There are currently 56099326 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14028685.3638 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.5869 seconds
Apr 12 20:11:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2034 @ 0.0039 = 7.9326 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 20:11:34 <orkaa>	we were all farmers 100 years ago anyway
Apr 12 20:11:49 <deyyo>	and now
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Apr 12 20:11:52 <deyyo>	btc farmers
Apr 12 20:11:54 <deyyo>	o.o
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Apr 12 20:12:06 <mircea_popescu>	i wasn;'t a farmer 100 years ago
Apr 12 20:12:07 <KRS1>	yep the SSL certificate on mount cocks is EXPIRED
Apr 12 20:12:16 <mircea_popescu>	more like an independent taxation consultant.
Apr 12 20:12:36 <KRS1>	they actually got the certificate chain correct though
Apr 12 20:12:49 <KRS1>	expired today
Apr 12 20:12:55 <KRS1>	i wouldnt login if anyone has an acct there
Apr 12 20:13:20 <pgp>	fuckin' rookies
Apr 12 20:13:32 <KRS1>	gesell: are u in the U.S.?
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Apr 12 20:14:03 <KRS1>	Its possible your time has moved past 12AM and it is now saturday 4/13 for you..its 4/12 Friday here in EST time zone in the U.S.
Apr 12 20:14:08 <KRS1>	so the cert is still valid for me
Apr 12 20:14:52 <orkaa>	KRS1: orkaa- those graphs use rrd hmm...nice
Apr 12 20:14:54 <KRS1>	they also got the key right 2048 as that is now standard
Apr 12 20:14:57 <orkaa>	it's whisper actually
Apr 12 20:15:04 <KRS1>	whisper..
Apr 12 20:15:11 <orkaa>	modified rrd, little better
Apr 12 20:15:28 <KRS1>	oh cool i shall read up on that- thanks
Apr 12 20:15:29 <orkaa>	http://graphite.wikidot.com/whisper
Apr 12 20:15:38 <KRS1>	awesome ty!
Apr 12 20:16:34 <KRS1>	oh wow im learning something new about RRD...I knew that about the updates for time passed..just thought thats the way it is..whisper says no...nice.
Apr 12 20:16:57 <maximian>	126
Apr 12 20:16:58 <KRS1>	I'
Apr 12 20:17:25 <KRS1>	I'd still rather have something written in C, maybe that will change in the future..not a big fan of python.
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Apr 12 20:17:47 <orkaa>	KRS1: yeah, you could populate history easily with whisper
Apr 12 20:17:48 <pgp>	what the fuck is going on - this volatility is crazy
Apr 12 20:18:00 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 12 20:18:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.46112, Best ask: 127.09385, Bid-ask spread: 0.63273, Last trade: 126.01900, 24 hour volume: 566790.55969661, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 86.22508
Apr 12 20:18:12 <Bugpowder>	this is awesome
Apr 12 20:18:19 <KRS1>	I saw this coming actually.
Apr 12 20:18:21 <Bugpowder>	I went all in at 82-99
Apr 12 20:18:25 <KRS1>	I'm no expert..
Apr 12 20:18:27 <Bugpowder>	I saw it too
Apr 12 20:18:31 <Bugpowder>	bids were over 13M
Apr 12 20:18:38 <KRS1>	=D
Apr 12 20:18:58 <KRS1>	I think pgp called it too
Apr 12 20:19:46 <pgp>	remarkable
Apr 12 20:20:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12134 @ 0.00072244 = 8.7661 BTC [+]
Apr 12 20:20:18 <pgp>	where does it stop though?
Apr 12 20:20:41 <pgp>	130?
Apr 12 20:20:44 <pizzaman1337>	never
Apr 12 20:20:48 <pgp>	round here?
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Apr 12 20:20:57 <Bugpowder>	I said 39
Apr 12 20:20:59 <Bugpowder>	130
Apr 12 20:21:05 <Bugpowder>	but with this bid support
Apr 12 20:21:06 <maximian>	130 today
Apr 12 20:21:10 <Bugpowder>	Ill put it this way
Apr 12 20:21:14 <kakobrekla>	with gox it stops at 2147483647 prolly
Apr 12 20:21:22 <Bugpowder>	12M bids was enough to support a $200 price
Apr 12 20:21:27 <Bugpowder>	we are at $14M bids
Apr 12 20:21:36 <Bugpowder>	which I only saw 1 day.
Apr 12 20:21:40 <Bugpowder>	the day before 266
Apr 12 20:21:41 <pgp>	135 was high after gox reopened...
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Apr 12 20:23:52 <pgp>	24h gox volume is 569k
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Apr 12 20:28:17 <Bugpowder>	no fees
Apr 12 20:28:19 <Bugpowder>	will do that
Apr 12 20:28:24 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 20:28:25 <gribble>	There are currently 56192274 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13877126.7745 USD in total. | Data vintage: 76.0866 seconds
Apr 12 20:28:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5821 @ 0.00072268 = 4.2067 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 20:30:56 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 20:30:56 <gribble>	There are currently 56189685 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13674205.4139 USD in total. | Data vintage: 80.8205 seconds
Apr 12 20:31:34 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 125
Apr 12 20:31:35 <gribble>	There are currently 3046.9761 bitcoins demanded at or over 125.0 USD, worth 390862.295482 USD in total. | Data vintage: 119.3433 seconds
Apr 12 20:31:44 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 135
Apr 12 20:31:46 <gribble>	There are currently 3233.8751 bitcoins offered at or under 135.0 USD, worth 428171.973792 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0209 seconds
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Apr 12 20:35:19 <joecool>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 20:35:19 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 5.442825 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0109073603591 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU).
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Apr 12 20:35:56 <KRS1>	bugpowder: $39, pgp $42
Apr 12 20:36:05 <KRS1>	I think
Apr 12 20:36:42 <Bugpowder>	god this is awesome
Apr 12 20:36:48 <Bugpowder>	I went so freaking in.
Apr 12 20:36:52 <Bugpowder>	at 82-99
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Apr 12 20:39:03 <pgp>	pretty amazing, but I think we've seen the local top
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Apr 12 20:40:53 <pgp>	yeah...  i don't think I want to go to sleep long...
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Apr 12 20:41:18 <maximian>	yep, that's it for today
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Apr 12 20:42:58 <pgp>	bids in starting at 75 and down - we'll see what the night brings.
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Apr 12 20:45:19 <pgp>	oh boy - this is crazy volatiltiy
Apr 12 20:45:38 <ThickAsThieves>	just got back to my desk whatd i miss?
Apr 12 20:45:42 <ThickAsThieves>	120?!
Apr 12 20:45:58 <ThickAsThieves>	surprised we got here so quickly
Apr 12 20:46:32 <pgp>	up to 130 heading back down
Apr 12 20:46:41 <joecool>	down we go
Apr 12 20:47:11 <pgp>	getting goxed again...
Apr 12 20:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	trading 50% off the day avg
Apr 12 20:47:44 <mircea_popescu>	the bot is certainly loving this lol
Apr 12 20:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	at this rate by the end of the month all calls will sell for 1btc+ and all puts for over 9000
Apr 12 20:48:13 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 20:48:16 <joecool>	lol
Apr 12 20:48:47 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 20:48:48 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 58.992681 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.118220672209 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
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Apr 12 20:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. off to bed. take care all.
Apr 12 20:50:53 <joecool>	later
Apr 12 20:50:56 <pgp>	nite
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Apr 12 20:51:47 <joecool>	p.sure he's the first romanian i've seen on freenode
Apr 12 20:52:10 <joecool>	i only use that country to VPN into quite often, i don't recall them having laws and such
Apr 12 20:52:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.7724 = 6.1792 BTC [+]
Apr 12 20:53:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.7725 = 16.995 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 20:55:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.773 = 2.319 BTC [+]
Apr 12 20:57:07 <ThickAsThieves>	''nethash
Apr 12 20:57:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 12 20:57:11 <gribble>	66056.1456528
Apr 12 20:57:37 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 12 20:57:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.01000, Best ask: 126.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99000, Last trade: 125.01000, 24 hour volume: 586052.63868227, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.44921
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Apr 12 21:00:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01019 BTC [+]
Apr 12 21:00:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7755 = 2.3265 BTC [+]
Apr 12 21:02:18 <Diablo-D3>	so I responded to that thread of usagi's
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Apr 12 21:02:44 <pgp>	link?
Apr 12 21:03:11 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172471.0
Apr 12 21:04:29 <kakobrekla>	why is anyone still losing time with this stuff anyway
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Apr 12 21:05:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.0021 BTC [+]
Apr 12 21:06:11 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: I dont know
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Apr 12 21:06:23 <Diablo-D3>	like, this is why Im going the corproate bond route with DMC 2.0
Apr 12 21:06:56 <kakobrekla>	;;bids 100
Apr 12 21:06:57 <gribble>	There are currently 8263.1663 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 903758.360825 USD in total. | Data vintage: 37.8691 seconds
Apr 12 21:07:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7769 = 1.5538 BTC [+]
Apr 12 21:08:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7779 = 1.5558 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 21:11:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77966 BTC [+]
Apr 12 21:11:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77966 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 21:12:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.78 = 4.68 BTC [+]
Apr 12 21:13:06 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 12 21:13:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 115.20000, Best ask: 115.32000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 115.32000, 24 hour volume: 591858.87211702, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.78027
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Apr 12 21:17:53 <Bugpowder>	;;bids -
Apr 12 21:17:54 <gribble>	Error: '-' is not a valid floating point number.
Apr 12 21:17:57 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 21:17:58 <gribble>	There are currently 55484676 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13378597.8457 USD in total. | Data vintage: 37.4767 seconds
Apr 12 21:18:25 <DeadWeasel>	aalright.
Apr 12 21:18:52 <kakobrekla>	1337
Apr 12 21:20:48 <pgp>	wow...  I leave for a few minutes and this is what happens...
Apr 12 21:21:20 <pgp>	very happy to be on sideline...  c'mon 75
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Apr 12 21:26:46 <Bugpowder>	duuuude
Apr 12 21:26:51 <Bugpowder>	that was aweson
Apr 12 21:27:26 <pizzaman1337>	did it just hit 130 exactly like you predicted and go down? ...
Apr 12 21:27:27 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 12 21:27:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.10000, Best ask: 113.20000, Bid-ask spread: 3.10000, Last trade: 110.10000, 24 hour volume: 599706.43259306, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 88.07442
Apr 12 21:27:43 <Bugpowder>	yup
Apr 12 21:27:52 <Bugpowder>	cashed out at 128
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Apr 12 21:28:22 <pizzaman1337>	I should have followed your signal..
Apr 12 21:28:32 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 21:28:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 115.00000, Best ask: 116.40000, Bid-ask spread: 1.40000, Last trade: 115.00000, 24 hour volume: 600331.81059443, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 88.10225
Apr 12 21:28:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 12 21:28:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 123.90251552 / 218.88143499 / 226.22012381 (14550 shares, 2,478.62 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 12 21:28:40 <pgp>	now we wait
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Apr 12 21:29:10 <pgp>	bugpowder: where do you buy again?
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Apr 12 21:29:44 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 12 21:29:47 <gribble>	87.34
Apr 12 21:30:01 <Bugpowder>	mtgox
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Apr 12 21:30:16 <pgp>	what price i mean
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Apr 12 21:32:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0037 BTC [+]
Apr 12 21:33:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 265 @ 0.00372 = 0.9858 BTC [+]
Apr 12 21:34:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00072481 = 9.7849 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 21:35:38 <abaue562>	hello
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Apr 12 21:36:22 <kakobrekla>	hi
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Apr 12 21:41:12 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder how long do your withdraws take
Apr 12 21:43:10 <Bugpowder>	12-24 hours
Apr 12 21:43:14 <Bugpowder>	international wire
Apr 12 21:43:20 <Bugpowder>	but I am maxed out till tomorrow
Apr 12 21:45:29 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: are options even worth it right now?
Apr 12 21:45:40 <thestringpuller>	I feel like given the high volatility the best option is just trading
Apr 12 21:45:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.0047 = 0.141 BTC [+]
Apr 12 21:46:11 <Bugpowder>	I am not touching options right now
Apr 12 21:46:37 <Bugpowder>	making BANK on just straight nonlevered trading
Apr 12 21:46:58 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 12 21:46:59 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 10 hours, 4 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 12 21:47:05 <thestringpuller>	smickles needs to trasnfer my shit to me
Apr 12 21:47:14 <thestringpuller>	instead of being a shady and ninja like
Apr 12 21:47:18 <pgp>	$avg
Apr 12 21:47:20 <mpexbot>	pgp: 87.51
Apr 12 21:48:20 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 21:48:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 105.40000, Best ask: 106.04841, Bid-ask spread: 0.64841, Last trade: 105.40000, 24 hour volume: 603898.86851097, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 88.24903
Apr 12 21:49:21 <pgp>	yeah implied vols are too high on options right now - much better bet to trade coin itself
Apr 12 21:50:29 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 21:50:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 103.00000, Best ask: 106.49999, Bid-ask spread: 3.49999, Last trade: 106.49999, 24 hour volume: 604356.29169134, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 88.26372
Apr 12 21:50:50 <thestringpuller>	sell deep otm options I would say for insta-coin lol
Apr 12 21:51:07 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 21:51:11 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 21:51:12 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 5.969142 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0119620937342 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU).
Apr 12 21:51:32 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: just trade on gox
Apr 12 21:51:37 <Bugpowder>	that is where its at right now
Apr 12 21:51:55 <Bugpowder>	140 to 55 to 130  in a day
Apr 12 21:51:55 <thestringpuller>	dude I'm not verified
Apr 12 21:52:08 <thestringpuller>	and don't have access to any coin due to smickles being well
Apr 12 21:52:11 <thestringpuller>	not here
Apr 12 21:53:12 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 21:53:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 106.00001, Best ask: 106.49997, Bid-ask spread: 0.49996, Last trade: 107.92433, 24 hour volume: 607243.94114853, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 88.33998
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Apr 12 21:55:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.62 = 1.24 BTC [-]
Apr 12 21:55:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-]
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Apr 12 21:57:51 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 21:57:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.50472, Best ask: 108.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39528, Last trade: 108.50472, 24 hour volume: 608798.45375568, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 88.39064
Apr 12 21:59:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.79 = 3.16 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 22:01:44 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 22:01:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 111.00001, Best ask: 111.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.98999, Last trade: 111.99000, 24 hour volume: 606205.51019846, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 88.29359
Apr 12 22:01:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.13997 = 0.6999 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:02:15 <KRS1>	Mount Cocks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Apr 12 22:02:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.0022 = 0.022 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:02:24 <KRS1>	Mount Cocks in Antarctica is a mountain at the head of the Koettlitz Glacier
Apr 12 22:02:59 <pgp>	fun facts
Apr 12 22:03:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 54 @ 0.00223 = 0.1204 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 22:04:22 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 12 22:04:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 111.00000, Best ask: 111.26337, Bid-ask spread: 0.26337, Last trade: 111.00000, 24 hour volume: 603766.91570775, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 88.27233
Apr 12 22:06:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:07:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79442 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:08:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7999 = 2.3997 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 22:11:10 <DeadWeasel>	fstab
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Apr 12 22:12:29 <KRS1>	lol not a console
Apr 12 22:13:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:14:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13997 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 22:15:00 <pgp>	here we go...
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Apr 12 22:16:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7999 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:17:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01019 = 0.0204 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 22:22:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7999 = 4.7994 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:23:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:23:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.409955 = 1.6398 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 22:25:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 26 @ 0.13997 = 3.6392 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:25:28 <pgp>	gox down?
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Apr 12 22:26:40 <pgp>	yep...  gox dead in the water again...
Apr 12 22:26:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.13998 = 0.5599 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:26:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069451 = 6.9451 BTC [-]
Apr 12 22:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9541 @ 0.00069449 = 6.6261 BTC [-]
Apr 12 22:27:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2909 @ 0.0006934 = 2.0171 BTC [-]
Apr 12 22:27:41 <pgp>	back up
Apr 12 22:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [-]
Apr 12 22:29:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.40998 = 2.4599 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:30:07 <kakobrekla>	back down
Apr 12 22:30:35 <kakobrekla>	or not
Apr 12 22:30:49 <pgp>	hard to say
Apr 12 22:30:52 <kakobrekla>	yep
Apr 12 22:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [-]
Apr 12 22:31:20 <pgp>	trading off at bitstamp and btc-e
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Apr 12 22:31:46 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Apr 12 22:31:48 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 12 22:31:50 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render/?title=Mtgox%2C+Bitstamp%2C+Btce%2C+Bitfloor+transactions+-+1+hour&vtitle=Dollars&from=-1hour&width=500&height=250&until=now&areaMode=none&lineMode=connected&target=alias%28bitcoin.mtgox.transactions%2C%22Mtgox%22%29&target=alias%28bitcoin.bitstamp.transactions%2C%22Bitstamp%22%29&target=alias%28bitcoin.btce.transactions%2C%22Btce%22%29&target=alias%28bitcoin.bitfloor.transactions%2C%22Bitfloor%22%29
Apr 12 22:31:54 <kakobrekla>	o
Apr 12 22:31:57 <kakobrekla>	nice url
Apr 12 22:32:07 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 12 22:32:11 <pgp>	sweet jesus!
Apr 12 22:32:22 <mod6>	haha, what a pile of crap
Apr 12 22:32:49 <orkaa>	kakobrekla: i was just playing with my mtgox script
Apr 12 22:33:01 <orkaa>	trying to update every minute instead of 10
Apr 12 22:33:13 <pgp>	nice chart!  ty
Apr 12 22:33:14 <orkaa>	and i thought they blocked me instantly, lol
Apr 12 22:33:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.13999 = 0.8399 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:33:28 <orkaa>	turns out they're down
Apr 12 22:33:36 <pgp>	lol
Apr 12 22:33:52 <orkaa>	maybe i killed them?
Apr 12 22:33:54 <orkaa>	haha
Apr 12 22:34:18 <kakobrekla>	nah
Apr 12 22:34:48 <orkaa>	btw, this is the url that looks nice: http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/all/
Apr 12 22:35:00 <orkaa>	it'll be better when gox wakes up
Apr 12 22:35:48 <kakobrekla>	it was pasted all over many times
Apr 12 22:35:52 <kakobrekla>	no worries
Apr 12 22:36:13 <pgp>	gooooooooxxxxxxx!!!!
Apr 12 22:36:48 <orkaa>	urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 502: Bad Gateway
Apr 12 22:36:51 <kakobrekla>	destroying bitcoin, a day at a time
Apr 12 22:37:36 <pgp>	gox - sign of life?
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Apr 12 22:38:11 <kakobrekla>	time to see whats cookin in #mtgox
Apr 12 22:38:12 <KRS1>	nice graphs
Apr 12 22:38:43 <pgp>	102
Apr 12 22:39:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.799999 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 22:41:14 <pgp>	just can't tell wtf is going on with gox...
Apr 12 22:41:44 <pgp>	it's like schrodinger's cat...   i don't know if it's dead or alive...
Apr 12 22:41:51 <kakobrekla>	perhaps they are turning it off and on
Apr 12 22:42:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:42:05 <kakobrekla>	called tech support
Apr 12 22:42:20 <kakobrekla>	"have you tried turning it off an on?"
Apr 12 22:42:21 <pgp>	really?
Apr 12 22:42:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8 = 2.4 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:43:09 <kakobrekla>	04:42.01 ( @MagicalTux ) ddos
Apr 12 22:43:12 <kakobrekla>	there ya go
Apr 12 22:43:19 <kakobrekla>	ddos turned them off
Apr 12 22:43:56 <pgp>	*huff*
Apr 12 22:44:56 <pgp>	makes you wonder about some of these conspiracy theories on bitcoin manipulation...
Apr 12 22:45:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00073 = 10.95 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1121 @ 0.00409987 = 4.596 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:46:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00409999 = 8.2 BTC [+]
Apr 12 22:47:34 <pgp>	gox print at 106
Apr 12 22:48:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00073 = 1.1315 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 22:56:27 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 22:56:28 <gribble>	There are currently 55415135 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13080996.9051 USD in total. | Data vintage: 36.0720 seconds
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Apr 12 23:00:14 <altoz>	;;bids 10
Apr 12 23:00:25 <gribble>	There are currently 374853.38 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 11946697.2389 USD in total. | Data vintage: 272.7659 seconds
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Apr 12 23:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3495 = 0.699 BTC [+]
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Apr 12 23:09:09 <orkaa>	oh cmon mtgox
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Apr 12 23:10:48 <pgp>	no sign of life
Apr 12 23:10:54 <jamborambo>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 23:11:15 <gribble>	There are currently 55415135 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13080996.9051 USD in total. | Data vintage: 227.9239 seconds
Apr 12 23:12:21 <pgp>	im going to sleep, which really means sleep for 1/2 hour, check price on phone, repeat cycle through the night...
Apr 12 23:13:06 <tiberiusiv>	pgp why? dont you have like 3 btc
Apr 12 23:13:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 22 @ 0.01019 = 0.2242 BTC [+]
Apr 12 23:13:27 <pgp>	i'm flat
Apr 12 23:13:55 <pgp>	just anxious about missing entry point
Apr 12 23:14:05 <pgp>	worried that my bids are too low
Apr 12 23:15:26 <tiberiusiv>	you already missed out sorry to tell you
Apr 12 23:15:34 <tiberiusiv>	50-60 was the buy zone and you had plenty of chances to hit there
Apr 12 23:15:51 <KRS1>	u sure
Apr 12 23:16:01 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 12 23:16:07 <pgp>	i got in in uper 70's and cashed out in upper 120's
Apr 12 23:16:14 <pgp>	waiting now
Apr 12 23:16:19 <tiberiusiv>	all 2 coins?
Apr 12 23:16:27 <pgp>	w/e
Apr 12 23:16:28 <KRS1>	LOL
Apr 12 23:16:34 <KRS1>	sorry that was funny
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Apr 12 23:20:34 <Bugpowda>	soooooo
Apr 12 23:20:40 <Bugpowda>	mtgox is down AGAIN????
Apr 12 23:21:31 <pgp>	seems that way
Apr 12 23:21:35 <Bugpowda>	YESSSSS
Apr 12 23:21:42 <Bugpowda>	sold at 128
Apr 12 23:21:50 <Bugpowda>	(and some at 108 and 118)
Apr 12 23:21:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.13999 = 0.56 BTC [+]
Apr 12 23:22:01 <Bugpowda>	so now we are going down to 80-90 again.
Apr 12 23:22:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00070847 = 7.6515 BTC [-]
Apr 12 23:22:16 <Bugpowda>	mtgox is my love
Apr 12 23:22:33 <pgp>	i think so
Apr 12 23:23:14 <pgp>	my bids start at 75 - might be too low - dunno
Apr 12 23:23:38 <Bugpowda>	I think its too low
Apr 12 23:23:47 <Bugpowda>	too much bid pressure
Apr 12 23:23:50 <Bugpowda>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 23:24:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
Apr 12 23:24:12 <gribble>	There are currently 55415135 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13080996.9051 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1004.7402 seconds
Apr 12 23:24:29 <pgp>	I hear you on that arguement, but I think some of that is fake
Apr 12 23:25:14 <pgp>	what better way to pump up the price again than by putting in a lot of fiat bids low in the book
Apr 12 23:26:02 <pgp>	in fact, i'm beginning to think that there might be a fair amount of manipulation going on
Apr 12 23:29:56 <kakobrekla>	not much asks though.
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Apr 12 23:31:23 <pgp>	it all market order selling that never shows up on the book
Apr 12 23:31:34 <pgp>	gox - it's alive
Apr 12 23:32:51 <orkaa>	not for me
Apr 12 23:33:10 <pgp>	just saw a bunch of prints come through
Apr 12 23:33:42 <kakobrekla>	seems like we are at 101
Apr 12 23:33:59 <kakobrekla>	the basics.
Apr 12 23:34:16 <pgp>	in any case - think about this - bitcoin has been getting a lot of press lately.
Apr 12 23:34:33 <pgp>	big money players have begun to take notice.
Apr 12 23:35:11 <pgp>	lets say some big players come in for 5 - 10 million USD
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Apr 12 23:36:00 <pgp>	but they only buy 1MM usd worth of BTC, not wanting to risk too much in 0's and 1's
Apr 12 23:36:16 <pgp>	but use the rest of the money to "spoof"
Apr 12 23:37:00 <pgp>	i.e. place and cancel large non bona fide orders to manipulate the market.
Apr 12 23:39:40 <pgp>	98
Apr 12 23:40:00 <jqmborambo>	;;bids 0 command
Apr 12 23:40:01 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 12 23:40:26 <jqmborambo>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 23:40:30 <gribble>	There are currently 55411371 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12729776.604 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0091 seconds
Apr 12 23:40:45 <jqmborambo>	;;bids 0 command
Apr 12 23:40:46 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 12 23:40:57 <Bugpowda>	reopened?
Apr 12 23:41:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1166 @ 0.0039663 = 4.6247 BTC [-]
Apr 12 23:41:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0038997 BTC [-]
Apr 12 23:42:05 <pgp>	prints on #bitcoin-market
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Apr 12 23:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.3495 = 5.2425 BTC [+]
Apr 12 23:45:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75301 BTC [-]
Apr 12 23:45:16 <altoz>	;;bit 0
Apr 12 23:45:17 <gribble>	Error: "bit" is not a valid command.
Apr 12 23:45:34 <altoz>	;;bid 0
Apr 12 23:45:34 <gribble>	Error: "bid" is not a valid command.
Apr 12 23:45:41 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 12 23:45:43 <gribble>	There are currently 55410786 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12672589.6045 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0089 seconds
Apr 12 23:46:39 <Bugpowda>	droping
Apr 12 23:46:53 <Bugpowda>	sell off to 82 on reopen?
Apr 12 23:47:24 <pgp>	we'll see
Apr 12 23:49:25 <abaue562>	is this live/
Apr 12 23:49:27 <pgp>	part of me thinks that we'll ultmately make some new lows before this is all over - or at least test 200 MA in mid 60's again...
Apr 12 23:49:57 <abaue562>	why would u think that
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Apr 12 23:50:35 <pgp>	gut feeling mostly
Apr 12 23:51:00 <pgp>	having been in the markets for 20 years and seen this sort of thing play out many many times
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Apr 12 23:52:13 <abaue562>	then then do you also belive it will bubble agin because i do
Apr 12 23:52:39 <Bugpowda>	yeah
Apr 12 23:52:47 <Bugpowda>	it will probably hit new lows
Apr 12 23:52:50 <pgp>	it's all about velocity
Apr 12 23:52:58 <Bugpowda>	and next bubble will be to 2000
Apr 12 23:53:03 <Bugpowda>	in a year or so
Apr 12 23:53:05 <pgp>	prolly
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Apr 12 23:56:01 <pgp>	this gox shit suxxxxxxx....
Apr 12 23:57:30 <abaue562>	when do you think it is going to dip
Apr 12 23:58:21 <pgp>	doing right now...  was at 130 3 hours ago
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Apr 13 00:18:16 <bgupta>	mtgox hacked? getting ssl error?
Apr 13 00:18:21 <altoz>	why's it going up?
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Apr 13 00:20:48 <bgupta>	why not?
Apr 13 00:21:22 <bgupta>	can anyone gt into mtgox?
Apr 13 00:23:29 <bgupta>	You attempted to reach mtgox.com, but the server presented a certificate issued by an entity that is not trusted by your computer's operating system. This may mean that the server has generated its own security credentials, which Google Chrome cannot rely on for identity information, or an attacker may be trying to intercept your communications.
Apr 13 00:23:29 <bgupta>	You cannot proceed because the website operator has requested heightened security for this domain.
Apr 13 00:24:49 <Insaneatyou>	I got there fine
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Apr 13 00:30:48 <BitHub>	hey, is anyone really into asicminer? can we talk?
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Apr 13 00:31:25 <abaue562>	mabey i am
Apr 13 00:31:33 <abaue562>	micky whats up
Apr 13 00:31:48 <BitHub>	i've seen those new units, after making a complete mess of my pants, anyone got any more info?
Apr 13 00:32:22 <abaue562>	yah expensive as fuck
Apr 13 00:32:46 <BitHub>	:)
Apr 13 00:33:08 <BitHub>	not quite ready to take preorderes yet? checking the bitcoin talk forums
Apr 13 00:33:34 <swhitt>	I will drop many dollars on one if I can
Apr 13 00:33:48 <abaue562>	yeah deff
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Apr 13 00:34:00 <abaue562>	icant wait to pickup litecoin
Apr 13 00:34:13 <bgupta>	you getting? $ host mtgox.com
Apr 13 00:34:14 <bgupta>	mtgox.com has address 72.52.5.67
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Apr 13 00:36:50 <BitHub>	gox working for me
Apr 13 00:37:14 <abaue562>	whats the bet rig htere i?
Apr 13 00:37:59 <bgupta>	ok wierd seems to have stopped working in chrome, but works in firefox
Apr 13 00:38:52 <InstantBTC>	anybody have a price estimate of the new asicminer chip?
Apr 13 00:39:12 <InstantBTC>	other than "expensive as fuck" I mean
Apr 13 00:39:14 <InstantBTC>	lol
Apr 13 00:39:45 <BitHub>	i dont know but shut up and take my bitcoin
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Apr 13 00:40:05 <BitHub>	lulz where can we get them InstantBTC
Apr 13 00:40:18 <BitHub>	do original share holders get first preference :P
Apr 13 00:40:21 <InstantBTC>	they aren't for sale yet
Apr 13 00:40:25 <InstantBTC>	and idk
Apr 13 00:40:26 <InstantBTC>	I hope so
Apr 13 00:40:49 <BitHub>	me too
Apr 13 00:40:54 <BitHub>	pushing for that, we deserve it
Apr 13 00:41:08 <InstantBTC>	im happy with whatever
Apr 13 00:41:14 <InstantBTC>	if they makie them overprice to start
Apr 13 00:41:20 <InstantBTC>	the divs will be very nice
Apr 13 00:41:21 <BitHub>	i wont be happy if i dont get a few
Apr 13 00:41:23 <InstantBTC>	of they make them cheap
Apr 13 00:41:28 <InstantBTC>	I'll happily buy them
Apr 13 00:41:35 <abaue562>	Buy 10
Apr 13 00:41:47 <BitHub>	can i put them all on one pc?
Apr 13 00:41:53 <BitHub>	if i'm running 10 usb ports
Apr 13 00:42:07 <InstantBTC>	I don't think anything would stop you
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Apr 13 00:42:24 <InstantBTC>	you'd just have to figure out where to put the 10 ports
Apr 13 00:43:09 <abaue562>	http://mineforeman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ASICMinerUSB.jpg
Apr 13 00:48:21 <BitHub>	don't worry i can get 50 usb ports
Apr 13 00:48:22 <BitHub>	lul
Apr 13 00:48:45 <BitHub>	crazy stuff
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Apr 13 00:49:11 <BitHub>	i hope they take payment in the form of asicshares
Apr 13 00:49:26 <abaue562>	asicshares
Apr 13 00:49:34 <abaue562>	?
Apr 13 00:52:19 <bgupta>	I don't get it seems chrom has stopped trusting verisign root cert
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Apr 13 00:52:35 <bgupta>	or at least the intermediate cert that mtgox is signed with
Apr 13 00:53:23 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 13 00:53:26 <gribble>	There are currently 55337014 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12996812.4781 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0116 seconds
Apr 13 01:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3455 BTC [-]
Apr 13 01:15:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 01:23:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0037 BTC [-]
Apr 13 01:25:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 26 @ 0.00372 = 0.0967 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 01:54:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
Apr 13 01:55:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
Apr 13 01:56:08 <rshrthjre>	 █▓▒50 Bitcoin + Free extra 2 Bitcoin=$1399 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$96.99 5 Bitcoin=$209.99 20 Bitcoin=$699.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$988.99 40 Bitcoin + Free 1 Bitcoin=$1239.99 50 Bitcoin + Free 2 Bitcoin=$1399.99(special promotion) http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com â
Apr 13 01:56:08 <rshrthjre>	 █▓▒50 Bitcoin + Free extra 2 Bitcoin=$1399 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$96.99 5 Bitcoin=$209.99 20 Bitcoin=$699.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$988.99 40 Bitcoin + Free 1 Bitcoin=$1239.99 50 Bitcoin + Free 2 Bitcoin=$1399.99(special promotion) http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Apr 13 01:56:09 <rshrthjre>	 █▓▒50 Bitcoin + Free extra 2 Bitcoin=$1399 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$96.99 5 Bitcoin=$209.99 20 Bitcoin=$699.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$988.99 40 Bitcoin + Free 1 Bitcoin=$1239.99 50 Bitcoin + Free 2 Bitcoin=$1399.99(special promotion) http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Apr 13 01:56:09 <rshrthjre>	 █▓▒50 Bitcoin + Free extra 2 Bitcoin=$1399 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$96.99 5 Bitcoin=$209.99 20 Bitcoin=$699.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$988.99 40 Bitcoin + Free 1 Bitcoin=$1239.99 50 Bitcoin + Free 2 Bitcoin=$1399.99(special promotion) http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Apr 13 01:56:09 <rshrthjre>	 █▓▒50 Bitcoin + Free extra 2 Bitcoin=$1399 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$96.99 5 Bitcoin=$209.99 20 Bitcoin=$699.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$988.99 40 Bitcoin + Free 1 Bitcoin=$1239.99 50 Bitcoin + Free 2 Bitcoin=$1399.99(special promotion) http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Apr 13 01:56:10 <rshrthjre>	 █▓▒50 Bitcoin + Free extra 2 Bitcoin=$1399 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$96.99 5 Bitcoin=$209.99 20 Bitcoin=$699.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$988.99 40 Bitcoin + Free 1 Bitcoin=$1239.99 50 Bitcoin + Free 2 Bitcoin=$1399.99(special promotion) http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Apr 13 01:56:10 <rshrthjre>	 █▓▒50 Bitcoin + Free extra 2 Bitcoin=$1399 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$96.99 5 Bitcoin=$209.99 20 Bitcoin=$699.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$988.99 40 Bitcoin + Free 1 Bitcoin=$1239.99 50 Bitcoin + Free 2 Bitcoin=$1399.99(special promotion) http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Apr 13 01:56:10 <rshrthjre>	 █▓▒50 Bitcoin + Free extra 2 Bitcoin=$1399 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$96.99 5 Bitcoin=$209.99 20 Bitcoin=$699.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$988.99 40 Bitcoin + Free 1 Bitcoin=$1239.99 50 Bitcoin + Free 2 Bitcoin=$1399.99(special promotion) http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Apr 13 01:56:10 <rshrthjre>	 █▓▒50 Bitcoin + Free extra 2 Bitcoin=$1399 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$96.99 5 Bitcoin=$209.99 20 Bitcoin=$699.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$988.99 40 Bitcoin + Free 1 Bitcoin=$1239.99 50 Bitcoin + Free 2 Bitcoin=$1399.99(special promotion) http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Apr 13 01:56:11 <rshrthjre>	 █▓▒50 Bitcoin + Free extra 2 Bitcoin=$1399 (www.bitswing.com) [delivery in 5 minutes]no phone call for verify,no personal information need  2 Bitcoin=$96.99 5 Bitcoin=$209.99 20 Bitcoin=$699.99 www.bitswing.com 30 Bitcoin=$988.99 40 Bitcoin + Free 1 Bitcoin=$1239.99 50 Bitcoin + Free 2 Bitcoin=$1399.99(special promotion) http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com http://www.bitswing.com
Apr 13 01:56:11 <InstantBTC>	omfg
Apr 13 01:56:14 <InstantBTC>	shut up
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Apr 13 01:56:19 <InstantBTC>	;;kickban rshrthjre
Apr 13 01:56:20 <gribble>	Error: "kickban" is not a valid command.
Apr 13 01:56:30 <InstantBTC>	;;voteban rshrthjre
Apr 13 01:56:31 <gribble>	Error: "voteban" is not a valid command.
Apr 13 01:56:33 <InstantBTC>	fuck
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Apr 13 01:59:23 <bassinboy>	wtb XRP for amazon gift cards
Apr 13 01:59:30 <bassinboy>	or pp
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Apr 13 02:01:24 <mod6>	woah
Apr 13 02:02:55 <KRS1>	wtf how are they selling btc at this price
Apr 13 02:04:51 <KRS1>	so they'll sell me $300 USD for $259 as long as the funds are in liqpay..
Apr 13 02:05:01 <InstantBTC>	it's a scam
Apr 13 02:05:02 <KRS1>	they're in the business to lose money?
Apr 13 02:05:10 <InstantBTC>	hense the spamming
Apr 13 02:05:29 <InstantBTC>	hence*
Apr 13 02:05:32 <KRS1>	but who would believe that..this is retarded
Apr 13 02:05:38 <KRS1>	i guess retards would..
Apr 13 02:06:01 <InstantBTC>	idk. im sure if 10,000 people read their spam
Apr 13 02:06:06 <InstantBTC>	one would be dumb enough to try it
Apr 13 02:07:20 <KRS1>	yea
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Apr 13 02:46:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 03:03:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.79 = 2.37 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 03:10:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 20 @ 0.2 = 4 BTC [+]
Apr 13 03:26:30 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 03:26:31 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 78.826112 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.157966645867 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
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Apr 13 03:46:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 03:48:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7998 BTC [+]
Apr 13 03:49:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [+]
Apr 13 03:49:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.8 = 7.2 BTC [+]
Apr 13 03:49:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
Apr 13 03:49:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.015 = 0.03 BTC [-]
Apr 13 03:49:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.80999 BTC [+]
Apr 13 03:50:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.81 = 2.43 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 03:54:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.78 = 3.12 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 03:55:26 <ChaangNoi>	we has some btc stability of sorts now?
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Apr 13 03:56:23 <ChaangNoi>	Am moving on up.. might be related to the 50 th on the 22nd :)
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Apr 13 04:02:29 <Namworld>	50 TH?
Apr 13 04:02:38 <Namworld>	oh... I know
Apr 13 04:05:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 13 04:05:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.01001, Best ask: 119.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17999, Last trade: 119.19000, 24 hour volume: 519954.94119336, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 88.43172
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Apr 13 04:08:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [-]
Apr 13 04:08:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00998 BTC [-]
Apr 13 04:08:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00997 BTC [-]
Apr 13 04:08:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 12 @ 0.00997 = 0.1196 BTC [-]
Apr 13 04:09:13 <ChaangNoi>	if that 50 TH comes on line... oh man, esp if before bfl
Apr 13 04:09:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00372 = 0.0112 BTC [+]
Apr 13 04:09:41 <ChaangNoi>	they will ahve like 40% of the network, in fucking sane
Apr 13 04:16:42 <leotreasure>	i thought was only 22th
Apr 13 04:19:09 <mircea_popescu>	well it varies.
Apr 13 04:20:21 <wao>	-pt?
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Apr 13 04:20:36 <wao>	ChaangNoi: who 50Th?
Apr 13 04:20:46 <ChaangNoi>	asic miner
Apr 13 04:20:56 <wao>	I considering buying shares >_>
Apr 13 04:20:56 <ChaangNoi>	22?
Apr 13 04:21:02 <leotreasure>	22 TH this month
Apr 13 04:21:07 <ChaangNoi>	on the 22nd
Apr 13 04:21:17 <ChaangNoi>	22nd is the soonest it could be up
Apr 13 04:21:20 <ChaangNoi>	no end time
Apr 13 04:21:32 <wao>	hmm
Apr 13 04:21:34 <leotreasure>	ok
Apr 13 04:21:37 <wao>	and do you have some shares of it?
Apr 13 04:21:42 <leotreasure>	he wrote 22th this month
Apr 13 04:21:42 <ChaangNoi>	if all goes well, it will be awesome,
Apr 13 04:21:52 <ChaangNoi>	did he?
Apr 13 04:21:55 <leotreasure>	i guess he meant 22nd
Apr 13 04:21:57 <ChaangNoi>	i might need to reread it
Apr 13 04:22:00 <leotreasure>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1819469#msg1819469
Apr 13 04:22:11 <ChaangNoi>	oh its odds are english
Apr 13 04:22:36 <ChaangNoi>	being in asia i dont even notice, im fluent in engrish
Apr 13 04:22:39 <leotreasure>	i think you're right tho
Apr 13 04:22:57 <ChaangNoi>	its not done yet, but will be aweosme if it happens
Apr 13 04:23:14 <leotreasure>	takes 2 weeks from the 22nd
Apr 13 04:23:25 <leotreasure>	50 th would be awesome
Apr 13 04:23:31 <ChaangNoi>	im willing to wait
Apr 13 04:23:55 <ChaangNoi>	anyway it songkran so i gota go outside, drink beern, and shoot hot girls with waterguns...
Apr 13 04:23:56 <ChaangNoi>	peace
Apr 13 04:24:34 <leotreasure>	hf!
Apr 13 04:24:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40997 BTC [-]
Apr 13 04:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3495 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 04:34:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 04:41:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.40997 = 1.2299 BTC [-]
Apr 13 04:50:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00031 = 0.0006 BTC [+]
Apr 13 04:50:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00031 = 0.0006 BTC [+]
Apr 13 04:52:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 58 @ 0.0101 = 0.5858 BTC [+]
Apr 13 04:55:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00372 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 05:09:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-doctrine-of-total-depravity/ << me on religion.
Apr 13 05:11:09 <Scrat>	I like the deer metaphor
Apr 13 05:16:03 <bgupta>	mg down?
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Apr 13 05:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3495 = 0.699 BTC [+]
Apr 13 05:32:08 <taub>	question should be if it's up....
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Apr 13 05:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	deer in highheels i tell you!
Apr 13 05:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4498 @ 0.00070132 = 3.1545 BTC [-]
Apr 13 05:36:35 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Apr 13 05:36:38 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231122 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 717 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 4 hours, 37 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9033281.16731 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.72815
Apr 13 05:36:49 <jurov>	jolly good
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Apr 13 05:38:44 <jurov>	CoinBr.iDiff holders should mine hard... otherwise they'll get paid only 0.076 pre share...
Apr 13 05:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3495 = 1.0485 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 05:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	lol so if anyone's curious re the "hacked mtgox db" :
Apr 13 05:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	https://blockchain.info/address/1MsB1gxHtrZDBHmSeBbFQchWq2a5aDySsb
Apr 13 05:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	kid got 1 btc from me, paid some debts, went and dropped the rest on s.dice (lost)
Apr 13 05:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	he delivered a link to mtgox_db.exe, which obviously.
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Apr 13 05:58:13 <Namworld>	oh hey
Apr 13 05:59:28 <Namworld>	I charted 2011's bubble on hourly graph and apposed it with current price
Apr 13 05:59:35 <Namworld>	on Bitcoincharts
Apr 13 05:59:47 <Namworld>	This is the result: http://i.imgur.com/GfaIyeB.png
Apr 13 06:00:41 <Namworld>	Current trend is well on it's way to create a perfect bubble chart mirror.
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Apr 13 06:01:53 <Namworld>	One may wonder if it will die out over the next 2-3 months like in 2011 and stabilize at some low level
Apr 13 06:02:10 <Namworld>	from where we can resume a more stable/steady growth
Apr 13 06:02:22 <Namworld>	or prop back up again... who knows
Apr 13 06:02:37 <Namworld>	Would be fun if it kept mirroring 2011 tho
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Apr 13 06:06:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.809 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 06:32:12 <ThickAsThieves>	Nam, I'm still worried about a short-term fall
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Apr 13 06:39:24 <Namworld>	well that might occur...
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Apr 13 06:39:36 <Namworld>	still, I expect the price to go downward slower
Apr 13 06:40:02 <ChaangNoi>	bitcoin24 closed? details?
Apr 13 06:40:17 <ChaangNoi>	how did i not hear of this lol
Apr 13 06:41:59 <ezdiy>	ChaangNoi: unlicensed exchange, polish account suspended under AML suspicion
Apr 13 06:42:04 <ezdiy>	hot wallet empty
Apr 13 06:42:11 <ezdiy>	hopefully bitcoins are safe
Apr 13 06:42:17 <damientrog>	http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15026825/php-mysql-how-to-prevent-two-requests-update
Apr 13 06:42:23 <ezdiy>	not relevant imo
Apr 13 06:42:29 <ChaangNoi>	oh wow thanks ezdiy
Apr 13 06:42:32 <ChaangNoi>	that sucks
Apr 13 06:42:55 <ezdiy>	damientrog: that race indeed existed during aug-feb though :)
Apr 13 06:43:06 <damientrog>	:)
Apr 13 06:43:53 <damientrog>	I just transferred a decent amount of coins back to my wallet, but it didn't go through
Apr 13 06:43:58 <damientrog>	just before it closed
Apr 13 06:44:05 <ezdiy>	yup
Apr 13 06:44:10 <damientrog>	the place was going apeshit though
Apr 13 06:44:11 <ezdiy>	supposed hot wallet empty
Apr 13 06:44:23 <ezdiy>	worst case - because of the sql bug, lots of coins were stolen
Apr 13 06:44:31 <ezdiy>	and simon didnt bother to announce it
Apr 13 06:44:54 <ezdiy>	and now will play the victim "aaand its gone, coz of evil german/polish govt"
Apr 13 06:44:57 <damientrog>	growing pains of the Bitcoin community
Apr 13 06:45:06 <Scrat>	ezdiy: wtf
Apr 13 06:45:35 <damientrog>	I always am fearful when transferring around fortunes in BTC to these exchanges
Apr 13 06:45:50 <damientrog>	I just spread my risk
Apr 13 06:45:52 <damientrog>	but still
Apr 13 06:45:57 <ezdiy>	ya
Apr 13 06:46:06 <ezdiy>	anything besides mtgox is hard to trust :(
Apr 13 06:46:09 <damientrog>	they are usually 1-guy operations
Apr 13 06:46:37 <Scrat>	ezdiy: I hope that guy isn't running an exchange right now
Apr 13 06:47:18 <ezdiy>	hey
Apr 13 06:47:23 <ezdiy>	it happened in the past
Apr 13 06:47:37 <damientrog>	if it weren't for the fact these guys usually here, I wouldn't trust it one bit
Apr 13 06:47:37 <ezdiy>	and i *DONT* believe in hacks, until substantial evidence is shown :)
Apr 13 06:48:12 <ezdiy>	simple explanation - if you're not making enough profit and you're holding assets you'd make in 5 years at current rate, its simpler to screw the customers
Apr 13 06:50:09 <damientrog>	this line is hilarious on btct.co: "Fundamentally, the purpose of this stock market simulation game … "
Apr 13 06:50:31 <damientrog>	hey guys, don't blame me it was only a game
Apr 13 06:50:53 <damientrog>	but still a great site though
Apr 13 06:55:22 <jurov>	some asset issuer on its sister exchange litecon-global pulled it out already
Apr 13 06:55:36 <jurov>	"just a game, we took it, sorry"
Apr 13 06:56:50 <damientrog>	I wonder how many people realise these dangers
Apr 13 06:57:32 <punkman1>	what danger, p2p distributed clown-based exchanges are the future!
Apr 13 06:57:33 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Apr 13 06:57:35 <gribble>	1 BTC = 116.01200 U.S. dollars = 88.700971 Euros
Apr 13 06:57:46 <damientrog>	hehe
Apr 13 06:58:11 <punkman1>	I store all my coins in clown-based storage
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Apr 13 07:03:19 <ThickAsThieves>	think we'll see an amplified weekend dip?
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Apr 13 07:03:54 <punkman1>	my cat says no
Apr 13 07:04:04 <savetheinternet>	i bought a significant amount of asicminer shares today
Apr 13 07:04:12 <savetheinternet>	my first real investment in bitcoin assets
Apr 13 07:04:25 <ThickAsThieves>	you couldve done much worse
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Apr 13 07:06:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 13 07:06:28 <gribble>	64831.1719639
Apr 13 07:06:32 <ThickAsThieves>	bleh
Apr 13 07:10:10 <punkman1>	lol at the stackoverflow link
Apr 13 07:10:16 <punkman1>	is that the bitcoin24 guy?
Apr 13 07:13:10 <error4733>	!bids 0
Apr 13 07:13:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 292 @ 0.00372 = 1.0862 BTC [+]
Apr 13 07:21:12 <ThickAsThieves>	Does BFL even give updates anymore?
Apr 13 07:21:25 <ThickAsThieves>	they just be mining away with everyone's units
Apr 13 07:23:07 <jurov>	hashrate doesn't indicate that
Apr 13 07:24:43 <ThickAsThieves>	it does if they have been doing it for a month+
Apr 13 07:26:31 <ThickAsThieves>	if you break down AM, all the AValons possible, and more than modest GPU estimates, I'm pretty sure it leaves room for one asic maker to be cheating
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Apr 13 07:31:00 <punkman1>	relevant, http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/04/121-pre-asic-network-hashrate.html
Apr 13 07:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.42 = 5.68 BTC [+]
Apr 13 07:32:23 <ThickAsThieves>	thanks!
Apr 13 07:32:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.809 = 8.09 BTC [+]
Apr 13 07:32:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.81 = 15.39 BTC [+]
Apr 13 07:33:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.815 BTC [+]
Apr 13 07:33:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.815 = 8.15 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 07:36:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 452 @ 0.00070132 = 0.317 BTC [-]
Apr 13 07:36:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.0006996 = 16.8254 BTC [-]
Apr 13 07:36:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13490 @ 0.00069351 = 9.3554 BTC [-]
Apr 13 07:36:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3508 @ 0.0006934 = 2.4324 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 07:41:07 <ThickAsThieves>	so if i understand correctly, he's roughly proving that 80% of hashing is done by 20% of miners
Apr 13 07:41:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 13 07:41:18 <gribble>	64831.1719639
Apr 13 07:41:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;calc 64831.1719639*.8
Apr 13 07:41:43 <gribble>	51864.9375711
Apr 13 07:42:34 <ThickAsThieves>	so 50000 os probably asic miners?
Apr 13 07:42:59 <ThickAsThieves>	he says he'll address this exact topic in his next post
Apr 13 07:43:12 <Scrat>	;;bids 0
Apr 13 07:43:15 <gribble>	There are currently 44105322 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14323183.9498 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0098 seconds
Apr 13 07:43:25 <ThickAsThieves>	actually no, he's gonna predict nethash
Apr 13 07:44:39 <ThickAsThieves>	meh i dunno, but I do suspect hashing is well above what AM and avalon claim to have shipped
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Apr 13 08:14:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10467 @ 0.0006934 = 7.2578 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 08:27:08 <taub>	very very thin volume
Apr 13 08:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3874 = 1.1622 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 08:38:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.815 = 4.89 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 08:40:46 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 13 08:40:48 <gribble>	There are currently 44179884 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14575523.3865 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0107 seconds
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Apr 13 08:46:22 <altoz>	;;asks command
Apr 13 08:46:22 <gribble>	Error: 'command' is not a valid floating point number.
Apr 13 08:46:29 <altoz>	;;asks 117
Apr 13 08:46:32 <gribble>	There are currently 160.93487 bitcoins offered at or under 117.0 USD, worth 18829.0146385 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds
Apr 13 08:46:41 <altoz>	;;asks 230
Apr 13 08:46:42 <gribble>	There are currently 65454.517 bitcoins offered at or under 230.0 USD, worth 10675349.4797 USD in total. | Data vintage: 9.7170 seconds
Apr 13 08:46:47 <altoz>	;;asks 250
Apr 13 08:46:48 <gribble>	There are currently 79034.624 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 14036918.2744 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.5423 seconds
Apr 13 08:46:53 <altoz>	;;asks 260
Apr 13 08:46:54 <gribble>	There are currently 81140.686 bitcoins offered at or under 260.0 USD, worth 14577304.377 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.7122 seconds
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Apr 13 09:02:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.0007062 = 11.5817 BTC [+]
Apr 13 09:02:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00070947 = 5.2856 BTC [+]
Apr 13 09:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 11 @ 1.5 = 16.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 09:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.36 = 1.44 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 09:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.55 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 09:25:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.00465 = 0.1395 BTC [-]
Apr 13 09:27:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 9 @ 0.0099 = 0.0891 BTC [-]
Apr 13 09:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.55 = 7.75 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 09:33:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.00372 = 1.86 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 09:36:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8149 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 09:45:10 <FabianB>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Apr 13 09:45:10 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0006934 / 0.00070688 / 0.00073 (509269 shares, 359.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.0006913 / 0.00073 (2255212 shares, 1,559.04 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068895 / 0.00077505 (10436877 shares, 7,190.58 BTC)
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Apr 13 09:55:30 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 13 09:55:33 <gribble>	There are currently 44175268 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14463026.2065 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0111 seconds
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Apr 13 10:08:49 <ThickAsThieves>	here comes the relief price
Apr 13 10:10:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
Apr 13 10:10:29 <taub>	mtgox keeps going down yea
Apr 13 10:10:31 <taub>	hilarious
Apr 13 10:10:37 <c1n0>	relief price?
Apr 13 10:10:39 <ThickAsThieves>	it was inevitable
Apr 13 10:10:47 <ThickAsThieves>	run up yesterday was to fast
Apr 13 10:10:49 <taub>	;;ticker
Apr 13 10:10:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.00000, Best ask: 112.12000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 112.12000, 24 hour volume: 366351.99823576, 24 hour low: 67.34453, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 99.49012
Apr 13 10:10:50 <c1n0>	yep
Apr 13 10:10:50 <ThickAsThieves>	too
Apr 13 10:10:58 <c1n0>	back under 100 we'll go
Apr 13 10:11:01 <ThickAsThieves>	yep
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Apr 13 10:11:18 <c1n0>	getting ready for 50
Apr 13 10:11:18 <ThickAsThieves>	it will be amplified by the weekend
Apr 13 10:11:44 <ThickAsThieves>	50 is the lowest possible, but i think there is enough money in gox to keep us from there
Apr 13 10:12:02 <gesell>	everyonne that was going to get out would have done so already
Apr 13 10:12:10 <taub>	you never know
Apr 13 10:12:22 <taub>	if it makes a move downward people could panic again
Apr 13 10:12:35 <taub>	especially those who sold at 50 and bought back at 100
Apr 13 10:12:42 <ThickAsThieves>	i sold 100 coins at 115-119 today :)
Apr 13 10:12:45 <gesell>	the realtive upswing from the weekend might give them calm, unless there are some huge dumps. also at the curent price the whales that were able to obtain possitions in the market did so much higher and are not going to sell before we hit $180 again
Apr 13 10:12:48 <c1n0>	hmm yep
Apr 13 10:12:52 <ThickAsThieves>	bids up at 75-97
Apr 13 10:13:00 <c1n0>	nice tat, thanks
Apr 13 10:13:13 <taub>	same ThickAsThieves :D made a mini trade
Apr 13 10:13:31 <taub>	from 110 to 120, was shooting for more but exited when momentum didnt come
Apr 13 10:13:44 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah at first i was going for 124
Apr 13 10:13:48 <ThickAsThieves>	but then the charts shifted
Apr 13 10:13:54 <taub>	yeep
Apr 13 10:14:23 <gesell>	there are some clear bots trading if you follow all +800btc buy and ask trades on the edge. the bot is shifting them around in predictable manner and actually the reason for the little hump/lull/hump/lull pattern
Apr 13 10:15:07 <ThickAsThieves>	bots will support any price that aggressive orders wanna create
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Apr 13 10:15:55 <ThickAsThieves>	they dont need a big spread, but they will thank you for it
Apr 13 10:16:01 <gesell>	oh yeah, clearly. just find it interesting to follow it as it oscillates on its own (likely buy and selling to itself at different weights depending if it is in the upswing state of its movement or downswing)
Apr 13 10:16:18 <gesell>	i wonder if it will change once fees are added back
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Apr 13 10:17:55 <gesell>	here are two example whale bids: price:110 amount:999.92869578  edge:113..112.51   price:124.9999 amount:1200.001
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Apr 13 10:18:21 <gesell>	as the market is swinging up the bot will slowly increase the volume on the bottom and reduce it on the top
Apr 13 10:18:29 <gesell>	when the market goes down, it does the reverse
Apr 13 10:18:40 <gesell>	not to absolute pattern but pretty close
Apr 13 10:19:39 <gesell>	anyway, i plan to be sure im holding btc by weekend.
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Apr 13 10:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.55 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 10:32:27 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 13 10:32:28 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 22 hours, 49 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
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Apr 13 10:48:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-]
Apr 13 10:48:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.815 = 5.705 BTC [+]
Apr 13 10:51:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.815 BTC [+]
Apr 13 10:51:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.815 = 3.26 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 10:57:46 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 13 10:57:49 <gribble>	There are currently 44149877 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14732373.3823 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0101 seconds
Apr 13 10:57:55 <altoz>	;;asks 260
Apr 13 10:57:56 <gribble>	There are currently 86341.908 bitcoins offered at or under 260.0 USD, worth 15296908.2659 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.1920 seconds
Apr 13 10:58:04 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 13 10:58:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.92151, Best ask: 115.11900, Bid-ask spread: 0.19749, Last trade: 115.12000, 24 hour volume: 352548.16039366, 24 hour low: 67.34453, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 100.83932
Apr 13 10:58:19 <lippoper>	Have you guys seen the new USB ASICMiner ? lol
Apr 13 10:58:45 <TomServo>	Yeah, have they said anything about a price?
Apr 13 10:58:52 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Apr 13 10:58:54 <kakobrekla>	?
Apr 13 10:58:56 <lippoper>	$39 for board members
Apr 13 10:59:07 <lippoper>	$239 for public, if there are any left
Apr 13 10:59:16 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Apr 13 10:59:30 <TomServo>	look kakobrekla just a sec
Apr 13 10:59:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.0101 = 0.0303 BTC [+]
Apr 13 10:59:42 <kakobrekla>	:D
Apr 13 11:00:37 <TomServo>	heh, meant 'looking'
Apr 13 11:00:40 <TomServo>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=8i63dq38dk5vapvrptb22g4dl0&topic=99497.msg1819469#msg1819469
Apr 13 11:01:01 <ThickAsThieves>	that price is not official
Apr 13 11:01:06 <ThickAsThieves>	afaik
Apr 13 11:01:32 <kakobrekla>	lmao
Apr 13 11:01:47 <ThickAsThieves>	so cute
Apr 13 11:01:51 <kakobrekla>	ya
Apr 13 11:01:57 <ThickAsThieves>	so little elec needed
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Apr 13 11:02:12 <TomServo>	pretty dang cool, I think.
Apr 13 11:02:25 <kakobrekla>	but its a toy
Apr 13 11:02:33 <lippoper>	i'd love a usb hub with every port filled with one of these
Apr 13 11:02:35 <taub>	so
Apr 13 11:02:39 <taub>	is BFL a scam?
Apr 13 11:02:39 <kakobrekla>	like keyring btc miner
Apr 13 11:02:41 <taub>	or not
Apr 13 11:02:44 <kakobrekla>	works on solar
Apr 13 11:02:46 <kakobrekla>	n stuff
Apr 13 11:02:55 <TomServo>	yah, a toy for sure
Apr 13 11:03:22 <lippoper>	a toy, but if you had 10 of these, is that 3MH/s
Apr 13 11:03:30 <kakobrekla>	gh
Apr 13 11:03:39 <lippoper>	oh yeah, bitcoin mining
Apr 13 11:03:42 <kakobrekla>	ya but 3gh whats that today
Apr 13 11:03:47 <kakobrekla>	5 chinese do that manually
Apr 13 11:04:03 <lippoper>	that today my friend is 5-6 7970's
Apr 13 11:04:07 <ThickAsThieves>	i see it as the conumer's miner
Apr 13 11:04:14 <gesell>	anyone here use the socket.io inteface for gox in their own scripts? if so what lib do you use. i find the python stuff doesnt support the https://, only wss: and then horribly at that, and nodejs seems to be a bit buggy. anyone have some experiance
Apr 13 11:04:17 <ThickAsThieves>	every get one to support the network
Apr 13 11:04:36 <lippoper>	totally
Apr 13 11:04:43 <lippoper>	I would get 30 just in case
Apr 13 11:04:55 <taub>	gesell: try goxtool, http://prof7bit.github.com/goxtool/
Apr 13 11:05:13 <lippoper>	9-10Gh/s
Apr 13 11:05:14 <ThickAsThieves>	then later on AM can introduce a PCI card
Apr 13 11:05:21 <taub>	but everything websocket is really unstable right now so that's a bummer
Apr 13 11:05:25 <kakobrekla>	dunno, maybe its worth 100$ if i had it today
Apr 13 11:05:29 <lippoper>	oooh, a PCI card
Apr 13 11:05:40 <gesell>	traub checking it out thanks
Apr 13 11:05:42 <lippoper>	or even a eSATA or Thunderbolt card
Apr 13 11:05:43 <lippoper>	wow
Apr 13 11:06:19 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think those formats would work for mining, but thats out of my area
Apr 13 11:06:36 <lippoper>	;-)
Apr 13 11:06:43 <lippoper>	i was just fooling
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Apr 13 11:07:26 <ThickAsThieves>	BFL is such a scam at this point
Apr 13 11:07:41 <ThickAsThieves>	no news in like 2 weeks?
Apr 13 11:07:49 <ThickAsThieves>	busy mining
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Apr 13 11:08:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78101 BTC [-]
Apr 13 11:08:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.781 BTC [-]
Apr 13 11:08:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.78001 = 1.56 BTC [-]
Apr 13 11:08:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.78 = 7.8 BTC [-]
Apr 13 11:08:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.78 = 3.9 BTC [-]
Apr 13 11:09:09 <KRS1>	whats up lipppOpppopp
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Apr 13 11:09:52 <wao>	- means sell or buy?
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Apr 13 11:15:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00223 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 11:20:07 <nookie>	bugpoweder
Apr 13 11:20:14 <nookie>	bugpowder
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Apr 13 11:24:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.815 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 11:25:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 11:27:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [-]
Apr 13 11:27:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.82 = 3.28 BTC [+]
Apr 13 11:27:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Apr 13 11:27:49 <ThickAsThieves>	Bugpowder isn't here
Apr 13 11:29:30 <lippoper>	what's up KRS1
Apr 13 11:29:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8229 = 1.6458 BTC [+]
Apr 13 11:29:52 <lippoper>	hey ThickAsThieves, yeah BFL is a scam, but seriously, they're too busy 'shipping' to update with news
Apr 13 11:30:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.82296 = 4.9378 BTC [+]
Apr 13 11:30:06 <ThickAsThieves>	go go AM
Apr 13 11:30:09 <lippoper>	and by seriously, I meant sarcastically
Apr 13 11:30:35 <lippoper>	gonna need some shares in ASICMINER
Apr 13 11:30:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.82297 BTC [+]
Apr 13 11:30:46 <lippoper>	that's about to take off on the 22nd
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Apr 13 11:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+]
Apr 13 11:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.16 = 3.48 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 11:38:57 <thestringpuller>	Has anyone spoked with smickles in the past 7 days?
Apr 13 11:39:31 <ThickAsThieves>	mircea_popescu, would you ever host a passthru on mpex?
Apr 13 11:40:11 <thestringpuller>	mircea is not here
Apr 13 11:40:17 <thestringpuller>	And his answer is easy
Apr 13 11:40:27 <thestringpuller>	;;eightball would mircea host a passthru?
Apr 13 11:40:28 <gribble>	No clue.
Apr 13 11:40:33 <thestringpuller>	:P
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Apr 13 11:43:57 <thestringpuller>	;;eightball will smickles ever wire me my money?
Apr 13 11:43:58 <gribble>	Naturally.
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Apr 13 11:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.36 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Apr 13 11:51:07 <KRS1>	faaaaal chickun
Apr 13 11:52:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 11:57:00 <taub>	still supsect mtgox is trying to manipulate prices
Apr 13 11:57:12 <taub>	by shutting down websocket etc
Apr 13 11:57:42 <taub>	it essentially shuts down trading as nobody wants to go in blind
Apr 13 11:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.36 = 1.8 BTC [-]
Apr 13 11:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.355 = 1.42 BTC [-]
Apr 13 11:58:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
Apr 13 11:58:07 <ThickAsThieves>	trading is awfully slow today
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Apr 13 11:58:46 <ThickAsThieves>	i know i do all mine elsewhere now
Apr 13 11:58:58 <KRS1>	want to throw an alka-seltzer in this btch
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Apr 13 12:01:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00071373 = 3.9255 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 12:07:05 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 13 12:07:07 <gribble>	64757.3657893
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Apr 13 12:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 12 @ 1.55 = 18.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 12:22:50 <altoz>	;;asks 260
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Apr 13 12:23:01 <gribble>	There are currently 86097.171 bitcoins offered at or under 260.0 USD, worth 15264939.1644 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1762.8584 seconds
Apr 13 12:23:17 <altoz>	;;asks 999999999
Apr 13 12:23:19 <gribble>	There are currently 113551.78 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3912556192.17 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0053 seconds
Apr 13 12:25:23 <Guest96001>	;;ticker
Apr 13 12:25:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 113.62900, Best ask: 113.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.27100, Last trade: 114.00000, 24 hour volume: 328435.43002459, 24 hour low: 72.00000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 103.76695
Apr 13 12:25:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 2500
Apr 13 12:25:48 <gribble>	A market order to sell 2500 bitcoins right now would net 281341.5471 USD and would take the last price down to 111.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 112.5366 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0001 seconds
Apr 13 12:25:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 5000
Apr 13 12:25:57 <gribble>	A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 554724.9412 USD and would take the last price down to 108.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 110.9450 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 9.1154 seconds
Apr 13 12:27:12 <c1n0>	oh 113
Apr 13 12:28:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00072407 = 4.8151 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 12:33:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 650 @ 0.00072407 = 0.4706 BTC [+]
Apr 13 12:33:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1767 @ 0.00072947 = 1.289 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 12:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 12:38:21 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 13 12:38:32 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
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Apr 13 12:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.55 = 3.1 BTC [+]
Apr 13 12:45:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.799999 = 1.6 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 12:48:48 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 13 12:48:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.40000, Best ask: 114.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 114.40000, 24 hour volume: 327494.64898141, 24 hour low: 72.00000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 104.27416
Apr 13 12:48:57 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 13 12:48:58 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 115.60031166 / 219.37944037 / 226.19553589 (13844 shares, 2,468.31 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 13 12:49:19 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 13 12:49:19 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 5 minutes, and 1 second ago: <mircea_popescu> he delivered a link to mtgox_db.exe, which obviously.
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Apr 13 13:01:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 13:04:40 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Apr 13 13:04:43 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.42000000 / 1.52027778 / 1.55000000 (36 shares, 54.73000000 BTC), 7D: 0.75000001 / 1.44240166 / 1.93000000 (301 shares, 434.16290011 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.72171064 / 2.08000000 (818 shares, 1408.35930041 BTC)
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Apr 13 13:13:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 13:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33775 BTC [-]
Apr 13 13:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.33500001 = 4.69 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 13:21:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7951 BTC [-]
Apr 13 13:21:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-]
Apr 13 13:21:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.000728 = 3.64 BTC [-]
Apr 13 13:21:44 <Bugpowder>	This is why I am cashing out 67%
Apr 13 13:21:46 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/fZwy3xd.png
Apr 13 13:22:40 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug I don't know if that's fair
Apr 13 13:22:48 <ThickAsThieves>	conditions are not the same at all
Apr 13 13:22:51 <unbalanced_>	Where do you think the bull trap will top out?
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Apr 13 13:23:01 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoin has hype
Apr 13 13:23:07 <ThickAsThieves>	back then it didnt
Apr 13 13:23:11 <ThickAsThieves>	way less users
Apr 13 13:23:13 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: It had hype back then
Apr 13 13:23:21 <Bugpowder>	The valuation is 10x now than then
Apr 13 13:23:45 <Bugpowder>	Clearly it is the most simplistic of analyses
Apr 13 13:23:51 <Bugpowder>	comparing two charts
Apr 13 13:24:00 <unbalanced_>	I agree that "it's different this time" as far as hype levels go, but bubble after bubble, asset class after asset class, the same sort of curves play out on the charts.
Apr 13 13:24:03 <Bugpowder>	But I think the risk level is off the charts right now
Apr 13 13:24:20 <unbalanced_>	And it's too expensive to buy options to mitigate that risk
Apr 13 13:24:30 <Bugpowder>	up
Apr 13 13:24:32 <Bugpowder>	yup
Apr 13 13:24:57 <Bugpowder>	And the volatility in the price actually makes it more profitable just to trade the swings
Apr 13 13:24:59 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm about as out as i can be anyway, unless i crash the stocks market for some assets...
Apr 13 13:25:04 <Bugpowder>	with cash in and out
Apr 13 13:25:24 <Bugpowder>	Made some very very good trades yesterady
Apr 13 13:25:36 <Bugpowder>	didn't get the bottom but got the top
Apr 13 13:25:53 <ThickAsThieves>	same here
Apr 13 13:25:54 <unbalanced_>	These oscillations are like clockwork. I guess we have bots to thank for that?
Apr 13 13:26:02 <ThickAsThieves>	my most recent outs were just under 120
Apr 13 13:26:16 <ThickAsThieves>	but i do have bids up sub-100
Apr 13 13:26:22 <ThickAsThieves>	not a lot
Apr 13 13:26:24 <ThickAsThieves>	but enough
Apr 13 13:27:11 <ThickAsThieves>	demand is totally different now
Apr 13 13:27:21 <ThickAsThieves>	as wella s other things
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Apr 13 13:28:06 <Bugpowder>	I'm going to look at reentry at 30.
Apr 13 13:28:06 <ThickAsThieves>	we have more businesses, easier ways to use coins, way more mining foundation
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Apr 13 13:28:30 <Bugpowder>	Still keeping a ton of money in coins
Apr 13 13:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9881 @ 0.0007222 = 7.1361 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 13:28:58 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think youll see 30
Apr 13 13:29:16 <ThickAsThieves>	not without bad enough news that youll change your mind
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Apr 13 13:30:16 <Bugpowder>	I think we hover for a while
Apr 13 13:30:19 <Bugpowder>	and fade down
Apr 13 13:30:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00070662 = 6.7836 BTC [-]
Apr 13 13:30:25 <Bugpowder>	slowly over a few months
Apr 13 13:30:45 <Bugpowder>	to the level that actual economic activity supports ($30)
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Apr 13 13:30:58 <Bugpowder>	and then I will move in strongly
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Apr 13 13:31:05 <Bugpowder>	and ride the next hype cycle
Apr 13 13:31:10 <Bugpowder>	for another 100x gain.
Apr 13 13:31:17 <unbalanced_>	I'm sure you've all seen this chart umpteen times but this one has a nice blue circle at the relevant point http://jamesgoodeonthemoney.blogspot.ca/2010/10/uk-property-prices-post-record-drop-as.html (the chart applies to all asset bubbles, not just real estate or BTC)
Apr 13 13:36:12 <error4733>	bugpowder, wath about 150K new account on Mt Gox since march ?
Apr 13 13:37:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 5 @ 0.00223 = 0.0112 BTC [+]
Apr 13 13:38:55 <Bugpowder>	everyone wants BTC
Apr 13 13:38:56 <Bugpowder>	sure
Apr 13 13:38:58 <error4733>	the only bubble start on april 100 to 262 in just 10 days
Apr 13 13:39:04 <Bugpowder>	but everyone wants a good deal
Apr 13 13:39:10 <Bugpowder>	The bubble started at $!5.
Apr 13 13:39:11 <Bugpowder>	$!5
Apr 13 13:39:14 <Bugpowder>	$15
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Apr 13 13:39:31 <Bugpowder>	it was a steady ramp from there
Apr 13 13:40:18 <Bugpowder>	Look at the Log scale
Apr 13 13:40:28 <KRS1>	bubbles pop into oblivion, this one is sticking around like the air after a good bowl movement
Apr 13 13:40:42 <ThickAsThieves>	bowel
Apr 13 13:40:44 <Bugpowder>	linear ramp from Jan 15th, no pullbacks at all, then a sharper angle after cyprus, mar 15th
Apr 13 13:40:52 <KRS1>	oh heh lol yep..not the kind u smoke
Apr 13 13:40:53 <deyyo>	it might pop next week again :P
Apr 13 13:40:57 <Bugpowder>	Sure
Apr 13 13:40:59 <Bugpowder>	it totally
Apr 13 13:40:59 <ThickAsThieves>	i do agree with Bug that the air will be let out for real soon
Apr 13 13:41:02 <Bugpowder>	might
Apr 13 13:41:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i just dont think the lull will be typical
Apr 13 13:41:11 <KRS1>	hmmm it seems to be that time again
Apr 13 13:41:35 <Guest96001>	Bug
Apr 13 13:41:47 <Bugpowder>	I just think we haven't seen the return to a realistic valuation yet, and after a bubble pops, you will usually end up with an undershoot of value
Apr 13 13:41:52 <Guest96001>	It seems you finally made money on put bets
Apr 13 13:41:58 <Bugpowder>	once full capitulation takes place
Apr 13 13:42:05 <Bugpowder>	No, mircera canceled my puts
Apr 13 13:42:15 <Bugpowder>	didn't make any money
Apr 13 13:42:17 <Guest96001>	So he robbed yo ass
Apr 13 13:42:19 <Guest96001>	Lol
Apr 13 13:42:21 <Bugpowder>	I don't want to go into it any more
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Apr 13 13:42:31 <error4733>	tiberius, please...
Apr 13 13:42:33 <c1n0>	mircea still alive?
Apr 13 13:42:49 <Bugpowder>	Made a ton day trading these bounces though.
Apr 13 13:43:01 <Guest96001>	Bugpowder you mtgox verified?
Apr 13 13:43:06 <KRS1>	how in the hell can u trade during those lag times? i cant
Apr 13 13:43:08 <b0n1>	hey there! Is there a homepage that shows charts of different btc markets compared?
Apr 13 13:43:08 <Bugpowder>	I'll play the options game again once the bot pricing gets normalized
Apr 13 13:43:12 <Bugpowder>	Yes I'm verified
Apr 13 13:43:17 <Bugpowder>	not trusted yet though
Apr 13 13:43:23 <Bugpowder>	thinking of getting trusted
Apr 13 13:43:34 <Bugpowder>	but maybe coinlab will make that irrelevant
Apr 13 13:43:39 <Bugpowder>	<hoping>
Apr 13 13:43:47 <Bugpowder>	but I have zero confidence in them
Apr 13 13:43:52 <Guest96001>	Bugpowder i think btc markets move faster than traditional markets because there is 0 enforced downtime
Apr 13 13:44:21 <Guest96001>	Many people lived wealthily with the bubble even for a day
Apr 13 13:44:33 <Guest96001>	I bought an ipad for 1.2 btc
Apr 13 13:44:37 <Guest96001>	Lol
Apr 13 13:44:39 <KRS1>	capitulation..we gonna dive next week i think
Apr 13 13:44:57 <deyyo>	i think we rise and then dive :>
Apr 13 13:45:19 <KRS1>	wasnt the rise from ~$70-$80 to current m.p.?
Apr 13 13:45:34 <KRS1>	how can i buy some of those short bets
Apr 13 13:46:08 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 13 13:46:13 <Guest96001>	Short puts?
Apr 13 13:46:17 <Guest96001>	Or short calls?
Apr 13 13:46:19 <Bugpowder>	can't buy puts now
Apr 13 13:46:22 <Bugpowder>	way too expensive
Apr 13 13:46:37 <deadweasel>	it's all a little pricey.
Apr 13 13:46:44 <Guest96001>	Sell the bot options then lol
Apr 13 13:46:49 <Bugpowder>	nope
Apr 13 13:46:55 <Bugpowder>	bot buying price hasn't increased
Apr 13 13:46:59 <Guest96001>	;;ticker
Apr 13 13:47:00 <Bugpowder>	only the selling price
Apr 13 13:47:01 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.15000, Best ask: 114.34000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 114.34000, 24 hour volume: 320023.28590435, 24 hour low: 72.50000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 105.40869
Apr 13 13:47:16 <Guest96001>	The volume is dropping rapidly
Apr 13 13:47:23 <Bugpowder>	Guest96001: Its the weekend
Apr 13 13:47:34 <Bugpowder>	volume is always light on Sat night Sunday morning
Apr 13 13:47:41 <Guest96001>	Yes, but wednesday was like 1929 all over again
Apr 13 13:47:48 <Bugpowder>	or 2011
Apr 13 13:47:52 <Bugpowder>	:)
Apr 13 13:47:56 <Guest96001>	2011 took several days iirc
Apr 13 13:48:12 <Guest96001>	I bought in at 16 went up to 30 and crashed
Apr 13 13:48:21 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/fZwy3xd.png
Apr 13 13:48:31 <Bugpowder>	wow you were an early investor
Apr 13 13:48:38 <Bugpowder>	I wan't to get in at $7 back then
Apr 13 13:48:43 <Bugpowder>	and was pissed I missed out
Apr 13 13:48:45 <Bugpowder>	then happy
Apr 13 13:48:51 <Bugpowder>	then it hit $2
Apr 13 13:48:58 <Bugpowder>	and I was like… MUST BUY NOWWWWW
Apr 13 13:49:26 <Bugpowder>	gotta go get some coffee to cure my hangover
Apr 13 13:49:37 <b0n1>	hey there! Is there a homepage that shows charts of different btc markets compared?
Apr 13 13:49:42 <Bugpowder>	Looking at my mtgox account balance is a pretty nice cure though :)
Apr 13 13:49:56 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/
Apr 13 13:50:00 <Bugpowder>	B0g4r7:
Apr 13 13:50:02 <ThickAsThieves>	you'll be withdrawing money for months
Apr 13 13:50:05 <Bugpowder>	oops b0n1
Apr 13 13:50:21 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: yah, unless it hits 30
Apr 13 13:50:26 <Bugpowder>	and 20
Apr 13 13:50:28 <Bugpowder>	and 15
Apr 13 13:50:29 <ThickAsThieves>	true
Apr 13 13:50:29 <b0n1>	Bugpowder,  on bitcoincharts you cant for example display 3 markets in one charts
Apr 13 13:50:40 <Bugpowder>	I don't know a site that has an overlay
Apr 13 13:51:01 <Bugpowder>	jurov had a link to one that does that i think
Apr 13 13:51:04 <Bugpowder>	or kakobrekla
Apr 13 13:51:22 <b0n1>	yeah i was told i should ask here
Apr 13 13:52:47 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
Apr 13 13:54:04 <mod6>	nice
Apr 13 13:54:10 <Bugpowder>	reddit likes it! http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c9zbb/anatomy_of_two_bitcoin_bubbles/
Apr 13 13:54:32 <Bugpowder>	NICE kakobrekla
Apr 13 13:54:40 <Bugpowder>	is that dynamically updating?
Apr 13 13:54:44 <Bugpowder>	bookmarked.
Apr 13 13:55:17 <kakobrekla>	yes
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Apr 13 13:58:25 <ThickAsThieves>	if you look at those bubble charts
Apr 13 13:58:30 <b0n1>	thanks kakobrekla
Apr 13 13:58:34 <ThickAsThieves>	it could be argued that we are further along
Apr 13 13:58:44 <b0n1>	do you have also one for other markets?
Apr 13 13:58:49 <ThickAsThieves>	due to compressed time action compared to 2011
Apr 13 13:58:53 <b0n1>	or special markets like mtgoxEUR
Apr 13 13:59:04 <EskimoBob>	;;ticker
Apr 13 13:59:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.00000, Best ask: 111.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 110.00000, 24 hour volume: 319889.06631344, 24 hour low: 75.00001, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 105.91656
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Apr 13 14:00:32 <ThickAsThieves>	bid walls disappearing
Apr 13 14:00:33 <ThickAsThieves>	yuss
Apr 13 14:00:55 <Bugpowder>	that reddit post spooked the market.  LOL
Apr 13 14:01:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00070377 = 7.6711 BTC [-]
Apr 13 14:01:41 <Guest96001>	What reddit post_?
Apr 13 14:01:49 <deadweasel>	there are a lot of angry people over bitinstant....
Apr 13 14:01:59 <ThickAsThieves>	timberrrrrrr
Apr 13 14:02:21 <ThickAsThieves>	dodge the knife!
Apr 13 14:03:26 <c1n0>	tanking again?
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Apr 13 14:05:15 <ThickAsThieves>	support from 100 and up went from 12000 coins to 8000 in the past hour
Apr 13 14:06:13 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 100
Apr 13 14:06:13 <gribble>	There are currently 8085.5564 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 839838.49838 USD in total. | Data vintage: 22.0640 seconds
Apr 13 14:06:34 <ThickAsThieves>	plus 2000 new coins for sale in that time
Apr 13 14:06:47 <error4733>	;;bids 55
Apr 13 14:06:47 <gribble>	There are currently 80671.093 bitcoins demanded at or over 55.0 USD, worth 6123830.3584 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.9154 seconds
Apr 13 14:07:22 <ThickAsThieves>	support will drop to 95 soon, then 80
Apr 13 14:07:47 <Guest96001>	Thi
Apr 13 14:07:56 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 13 14:07:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 109.50946, Best ask: 110.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49054, Last trade: 110.00000, 24 hour volume: 319578.01377036, 24 hour low: 75.32006, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 106.03518
Apr 13 14:07:58 <error4733>	short then
Apr 13 14:07:58 <Guest96001>	ThickAsThieves: why?
Apr 13 14:08:14 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe you need to be a lil more specific
Apr 13 14:08:45 <ThickAsThieves>	watch the walls
Apr 13 14:08:52 <ThickAsThieves>	and query gribble
Apr 13 14:08:58 <Scrat>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 14:08:59 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 568.703018 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.13967448056 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Apr 13 14:09:04 <Scrat>	50x faster engine hard at work
Apr 13 14:09:07 <ThickAsThieves>	wow
Apr 13 14:09:15 <ThickAsThieves>	its going down now i guess
Apr 13 14:09:51 <deyyo>	yeh
Apr 13 14:09:54 <deyyo>	kinda scary :P
Apr 13 14:10:11 <Skarr>	That'd be my guess too, Thieves. In the last several days, have we had a single instance of lag spiking to the minutes which has resulted in an upturn?
Apr 13 14:10:46 <ThickAsThieves>	i think upturn during lag happened like once
Apr 13 14:11:50 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 13 14:11:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 109.77000, Best ask: 110.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23000, Last trade: 110.00000, 24 hour volume: 319361.59253106, 24 hour low: 75.32006, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 106.05848
Apr 13 14:11:52 <ThickAsThieves>	feel bad for thos people making buys at 110
Apr 13 14:11:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0006 = 0.006 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00077 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:08 <thestringpuller>	alright guys hold onto your hats
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Apr 13 14:12:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.002 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.002 = 0.004 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 13 14:12:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0021 = 0.021 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:34 <EskimoBob>	https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130411.html
Apr 13 14:12:35 <Bugpowder>	My buddy bought at $260
Apr 13 14:12:39 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 100
Apr 13 14:12:41 <ThickAsThieves>	ouch
Apr 13 14:12:43 <gribble>	There are currently 7354.2787 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 763561.644301 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0044 seconds
Apr 13 14:12:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0022 = 0.022 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 13 @ 0.002289 = 0.0298 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0023 = 0.023 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00236 = 0.0236 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 14 @ 0.00237 = 0.0332 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:12:59 <EskimoBob>	...  75k new account created for the first few days of April! We now have roughly 20,000 new accounts created each day.
Apr 13 14:13:02 <thestringpuller>	wow the wall is evaporating
Apr 13 14:13:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i havent bought since 68, other than day trading
Apr 13 14:13:32 <ThickAsThieves>	started buying at around 15
Apr 13 14:14:02 <thestringpuller>	I bought at 10
Apr 13 14:14:06 <thestringpuller>	well 12
Apr 13 14:14:17 <thestringpuller>	and I thought buying in at 15 was going to be risky :P
Apr 13 14:14:23 <thestringpuller>	fuckers
Apr 13 14:14:23 <Bugpowder>	in below 3.
Apr 13 14:14:23 <error4733>	13.27$
Apr 13 14:14:27 <EskimoBob>	 thestringpuller where do you see a wall?
Apr 13 14:14:28 <Bugpowder>	a bit more at 12
Apr 13 14:14:33 <Bugpowder>	out all the way up
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Apr 13 14:14:38 <EskimoBob>	evaporating one
Apr 13 14:14:39 <Scrat>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 14:14:40 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 695.946633 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.39466926033 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
Apr 13 14:14:42 <Scrat>	get goxxed
Apr 13 14:15:03 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: why be a scientist? you're totally better at trading
Apr 13 14:15:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i almost told my wife she got goxxed when somehting unfortunate happened yesterday
Apr 13 14:15:26 <ThickAsThieves>	then i realized she had no idea
Apr 13 14:15:46 <error4733>	she have btc ?
Apr 13 14:15:49 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Apr 13 14:15:51 <Scrat>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goxxed
Apr 13 14:15:54 <error4733>	good
Apr 13 14:15:54 <Scrat>	upvote that shit
Apr 13 14:15:55 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 13 14:15:56 <gribble>	106.16
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Apr 13 14:16:56 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: but I could do both!
Apr 13 14:17:25 <Bugpowder>	Also if the price is falling, and the puts are too expensive, not a lot of opportunity to make money
Apr 13 14:17:37 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah mp goxxed us
Apr 13 14:17:41 <kakobrekla>	;;ud goxxed
Apr 13 14:17:43 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goxxed | Jun 26, 2011 ... The act of being screwed by an online merchant, specifically due to the merchant being incompetent and amateurish. Derived from the debacle ...
Apr 13 14:17:55 <EskimoBob>	;;ticker
Apr 13 14:17:56 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: if the price falls and you have a lot of coins can't you sell and repurchase?
Apr 13 14:17:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.10000, Best ask: 109.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 109.00000, 24 hour volume: 319521.71206729, 24 hour low: 75.32006, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 106.10934
Apr 13 14:17:58 <Bugpowder>	I will probably go focus more on science for the next few months and wait till the bottom
Apr 13 14:18:07 <Bugpowder>	thestringpuller: yes that is my plan
Apr 13 14:18:19 <Bugpowder>	dumped a ton last night at 128, and more today at 114
Apr 13 14:18:28 <Bugpowder>	I will sit on the rest
Apr 13 14:18:42 <Bugpowder>	and keep plenty of coin on gox to buy if it really collapses
Apr 13 14:19:04 <Bugpowder>	I am about 70% cashed out now
Apr 13 14:19:18 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm about 50%
Apr 13 14:19:26 <ThickAsThieves>	stuck in some assets
Apr 13 14:19:26 <Scrat>	Bugpowder: you buying gold at all?
Apr 13 14:19:37 <Bugpowder>	I have a few ounces
Apr 13 14:19:46 <Bugpowder>	but no major investment position
Apr 13 14:19:55 <Bugpowder>	that is something to look at certainly
Apr 13 14:20:01 <Bugpowder>	with the recent drop in price
Apr 13 14:20:20 <Bugpowder>	mostly just in a diversified portfolio of stocks and bonds
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Apr 13 14:20:32 <Bugpowder>	based on the recommendations in The Intelligent Asset Allocator
Apr 13 14:20:38 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder what if another buying frenzy occurs while you are focusing on research?
Apr 13 14:21:04 <Bugpowder>	Hopefully I'll catch some of it!
Apr 13 14:21:32 <Scrat>	William Bernstein (Author)
Apr 13 14:21:32 <Bugpowder>	If any of you have made a lot of money on this market, and don't have a diversified portfolio, now might be a good time to open an account with Vanguard
Apr 13 14:21:37 <Scrat>	lol, how stereotypical
Apr 13 14:22:04 <Bugpowder>	http://www.amazon.com/Intelligent-Asset-Allocator-Portfolio-Maximize/dp/0071362363
Apr 13 14:22:50 <KRS1>	;;bids 100
Apr 13 14:22:50 <gribble>	There are currently 6888.6826 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 711859.547123 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.4094 seconds
Apr 13 14:22:56 <KRS1>	wow
Apr 13 14:23:50 <Scrat>	lag is holding the price up
Apr 13 14:24:57 <ThickAsThieves>	lag is everyone dodging the knife
Apr 13 14:25:01 <thestringpuller>	dude, where the fuck is smickels
Apr 13 14:25:14 <thestringpuller>	being busy isn't excuse for freezing someone's account
Apr 13 14:26:29 <Bugpowder>	PRPFX is an interesting fund too
Apr 13 14:26:30 <Bugpowder>	http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/26/us-column-wasik-capital-idUSBRE8AP0UL20121126?feedType=RSS&feedName=PersonalFinance&rpc=43
Apr 13 14:26:55 <Bugpowder>	My father has quite a bit in it and it did spectacularly well through the crash and recovery
Apr 13 14:27:12 <Bugpowder>	I may put some in it, though I HATE paying fees.
Apr 13 14:28:13 <altoz>	so sell now and wait to rebuy at 30?
Apr 13 14:28:20 <taub>	4~mtgox shutting itself down again for quick intervals after sharp drops
Apr 13 14:28:21 <taub>	...
Apr 13 14:28:42 <Bugpowder>	altoz: I can't give recommendations, but that is what I am doing.
Apr 13 14:28:47 <Bugpowder>	or trying to do
Apr 13 14:28:55 <Diablo-D3>	probably to keep the database from murdering itself
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Apr 13 14:29:48 <Gordon_>	Hi
Apr 13 14:30:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1018 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:30:28 <ThickAsThieves>	hi
Apr 13 14:30:40 <taub>	;;title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIvxarOmRGk
Apr 13 14:30:41 <gribble>	A Nasdaq of Bitcoin? - YouTube
Apr 13 14:30:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1019 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:30:55 <error4733>	Cmon, 30 srsly ? give me one important change in BTC since 1 week ? no price related
Apr 13 14:31:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i bought in to sdice at .0075 today i have a officially arbed myself down to market price
Apr 13 14:31:08 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 13 14:31:49 <ThickAsThieves>	error, its way more complicated than that
Apr 13 14:32:20 <ThickAsThieves>	you cant say,
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Apr 13 14:32:30 <ThickAsThieves>	tell me why the price will change, aside from the price changing
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Apr 13 14:33:06 <error4733>	massive take of benefit after a 150% rise in a week
Apr 13 14:33:10 <Bugpowder>	error4733: the bubble started at $15
Apr 13 14:33:31 <Bugpowder>	I think by the time we get back down, the bitcoin economy will be able to support 30
Apr 13 14:33:37 <Bugpowder>	but we could dip below 20
Apr 13 14:33:51 <Bugpowder>	and then we grow up from there
Apr 13 14:33:53 <Bugpowder>	to 50 or so
Apr 13 14:34:00 <Bugpowder>	and perhaps another bubble forms
Apr 13 14:34:03 <Bugpowder>	this time to 2000
Apr 13 14:34:07 <taub>	ThickAsThieves> i bought in to sdice at .0075 today i have a officially arbed myself down to market price <- what you mean
Apr 13 14:34:24 <KRS1>	sounds resonable to me
Apr 13 14:34:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean that i've been doing arb for mos
Apr 13 14:34:51 <ThickAsThieves>	to negate my loss
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Apr 13 14:35:14 <taub>	what you're arbing it against
Apr 13 14:35:31 <ThickAsThieves>	all exchanges
Apr 13 14:35:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.781 = 3.124 BTC [-]
Apr 13 14:35:42 <taub>	ohh okay
Apr 13 14:35:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.78025 = 1.5605 BTC [-]
Apr 13 14:35:51 <ThickAsThieves>	i have sdice everywhere
Apr 13 14:35:51 <taub>	i thought it was only traded at mpex
Apr 13 14:36:10 <ThickAsThieves>	havelock, btct, mpex, bitfunder
Apr 13 14:36:29 <ThickAsThieves>	twas a lot of work
Apr 13 14:36:46 <KRS1>	how can i trade on gox right now if its gox'ed
Apr 13 14:36:58 <error4733>	ok the most important is we reach 262$.... when i bought @13 like me the  ATH was 32$. Now Its 262 ffs, change everything
Apr 13 14:37:09 <KRS1>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 14:37:10 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1451.840455 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.9094720162 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
Apr 13 14:37:14 <KRS1>	horrible
Apr 13 14:37:31 <ThickAsThieves>	cant they just reboot or somehting geez
Apr 13 14:37:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [-]
Apr 13 14:37:58 <altoz>	anyone know how to cancel a limit order on gox right now?
Apr 13 14:38:02 <altoz>	cancel button doesn't work
Apr 13 14:38:10 <ThickAsThieves>	hit cancel, wait, and pray
Apr 13 14:38:14 <mod6>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 14:38:15 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1489.227845 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.98439592715 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
Apr 13 14:38:19 <mod6>	haha
Apr 13 14:38:37 <error4733>	he work but you have to wait 1489s
Apr 13 14:39:55 <ThickAsThieves>	someone left a big wall up at 110 on bitfloor if anyone wants to try and grab it
Apr 13 14:39:56 <Bugpowder>	the cancel won't show up
Apr 13 14:40:15 <taub>	;;title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8LU3uaQG10
Apr 13 14:40:16 <gribble>	Fred Wilson on Bitcoin, Airbnb and immigration - YouTube
Apr 13 14:40:20 <Bugpowder>	but in my experience it will check for a cancel before it actually gets executed
Apr 13 14:40:34 <Bugpowder>	I have placed market orders during lag
Apr 13 14:40:40 <Bugpowder>	and cancelled them
Apr 13 14:40:56 <Bugpowder>	and there was huge delay for the cancellation to show up
Apr 13 14:41:07 <Bugpowder>	but the market order never executed
Apr 13 14:43:38 <guruvan>	thats good to know - I just placed one, and canceled it while it's lagged out
Apr 13 14:44:47 <ThickAsThieves>	lotsa bids at 109 on campbx too if anyone needs to sell
Apr 13 14:44:50 <KRS1>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 14:44:51 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1668.459377 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.34357391051 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
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Apr 13 14:45:06 <KRS1>	how long could i get my btc to campbx if its in btc-e
Apr 13 14:45:14 <KRS1>	or usd for that matter
Apr 13 14:45:23 <ThickAsThieves>	usd aint gonna happen
Apr 13 14:45:31 <ThickAsThieves>	btc 30m-6hrs
Apr 13 14:45:31 <KRS1>	i have some btc in gox to transfer over
Apr 13 14:45:42 <KRS1>	even with fee
Apr 13 14:45:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i wouldnt try to send btc from or to gox right now
Apr 13 14:45:47 <KRS1>	damn
Apr 13 14:46:02 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 13 14:46:03 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 3 hours, 3 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 13 14:46:04 <ThickAsThieves>	it taked FOREVER sometimes
Apr 13 14:46:22 <KRS1>	it seemthe U.S. isn't very popular these days
Apr 13 14:46:34 <KRS1>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 14:46:34 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1608.853804 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.22412500959 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
Apr 13 14:46:47 <KRS1>	that cant be caused by trade traffic
Apr 13 14:46:59 <ThickAsThieves>	btc-e is like the only exchange that works nicely
Apr 13 14:47:13 <ThickAsThieves>	therefore all the ddos must be the ruskis
Apr 13 14:47:33 <Scrat>	someone lured the gox team out of their office with a slice of pizza
Apr 13 14:47:55 <ThickAsThieves>	they are like, dude its nap time, ttyl
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Apr 13 14:48:25 <taub>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 14:48:26 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1697.823738 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.40241976117 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
Apr 13 14:48:26 <taub>	really?
Apr 13 14:48:42 <ThickAsThieves>	in the past day i have turned .3btc into 1 on btc-e, i win
Apr 13 14:48:51 <taub>	how did lag go up this high
Apr 13 14:48:54 <taub>	without any price move
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Apr 13 14:49:02 <taub>	its like it just kept going up
Apr 13 14:49:05 <taub>	and then cam a crash
Apr 13 14:49:09 <taub>	i mean a dip
Apr 13 14:49:09 <ThickAsThieves>	because everyone is reordering bids
Apr 13 14:49:24 <ThickAsThieves>	what happens is
Apr 13 14:49:29 <error4733>	no fee :)
Apr 13 14:49:42 <ThickAsThieves>	when whatever powers that be are ready to dive the price,
Apr 13 14:49:47 <taub>	i just noticed this lag now, when did it start?
Apr 13 14:49:52 <ThickAsThieves>	they move all their bids lower
Apr 13 14:50:01 <ThickAsThieves>	since gox has soft order system
Apr 13 14:50:08 <ThickAsThieves>	it takes forever to update
Apr 13 14:50:13 <taub>	lol
Apr 13 14:50:14 <taub>	okay
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Apr 13 14:50:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i bet gox will behave much differently when soft order features are removed
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Apr 13 14:51:27 <ThickAsThieves>	then again, bots could potentially spam orders too...
Apr 13 14:51:41 <ThickAsThieves>	they need an order fee
Apr 13 14:52:03 <ThickAsThieves>	at least for bots
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Apr 13 14:53:24 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Apr 13 14:53:28 <ThickAsThieves>	i have to go to a wedding soon
Apr 13 14:53:32 <ThickAsThieves>	cmon gox
Apr 13 14:53:39 <taub>	well
Apr 13 14:53:44 <Bugpowder>	this could be a nice ripple trade coming up
Apr 13 14:53:58 <Bugpowder>	but hard to know where the bottom will be
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Apr 13 14:54:04 <Bugpowder>	I'm not going to do i
Apr 13 14:54:06 <Bugpowder>	do it
Apr 13 14:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4736 @ 0.000728 = 3.4478 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 14:54:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8233 @ 0.00072947 = 6.0057 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:54:33 <Scrat>	killall -9 tuxengine.php
Apr 13 14:54:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 181 @ 0.00073 = 0.1321 BTC [+]
Apr 13 14:55:12 <ThickAsThieves>	put a 1 satoshi order fee for bots or something
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Apr 13 14:55:51 <taub>	where ur trading ripples
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Apr 13 14:58:38 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 13 14:58:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 105.81088, Best ask: 107.89000, Bid-ask spread: 2.07912, Last trade: 107.89000, 24 hour volume: 311365.72938362, 24 hour low: 77.00000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 107.06205
Apr 13 14:58:42 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 14:58:43 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1686.244973 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.37921604575 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
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Apr 13 15:01:05 <Bugpowder>	taub I mean oscillation, not ripple the currency
Apr 13 15:01:21 <taub>	hah okay
Apr 13 15:01:23 <taub>	:)
Apr 13 15:01:25 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/TfSNGC5.png
Apr 13 15:01:30 <ThickAsThieves>	wherever it falls, we'll see at least one more notable bounce i think
Apr 13 15:01:35 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/YBYOjNn.png
Apr 13 15:01:38 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Apr 13 15:01:39 <taub>	im no hero i dont trade with 30 min lag
Apr 13 15:01:45 <Bugpowder>	I mean, don't panic here folks
Apr 13 15:01:57 <Bugpowder>	We will probably bounce around 100 for a while
Apr 13 15:02:13 <Bugpowder>	I'm just thinking on the 3 month time horizion
Apr 13 15:02:31 <error4733>	quote 4 glory
Apr 13 15:03:43 <ThickAsThieves>	too many people will wanna buy next week, itll be hard for it totally crash
Apr 13 15:04:12 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Apr 13 15:04:20 <Bugpowder>	there is tons of people wanting in
Apr 13 15:04:26 <Bugpowder>	still
Apr 13 15:04:36 <ThickAsThieves>	clarkboody just went all fractal on me
Apr 13 15:04:43 <ThickAsThieves>	moody*
Apr 13 15:04:56 <ThickAsThieves>	ok it fixed
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Apr 13 15:06:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 15:07:37 <ThickAsThieves>	104
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Apr 13 15:08:27 <taub>	this lag is so shifty
Apr 13 15:08:51 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 13 15:08:55 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Apr 13 15:08:55 <gribble>	There are currently 44087491 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14085029.0865 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0100 seconds
Apr 13 15:08:57 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 999999999
Apr 13 15:08:58 <gribble>	There are currently 113018.02 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3901036048.27 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.6511 seconds
Apr 13 15:08:59 <ThickAsThieves>	the swebsite is working fine
Apr 13 15:09:02 <ThickAsThieves>	just lag
Apr 13 15:09:08 <ThickAsThieves>	cant really call it ddos
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Apr 13 15:09:30 <Bugpowder>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 15:09:32 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1619.727358 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.24591549006 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
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Apr 13 15:13:55 <thestringpuller_>	;;ticker
Apr 13 15:13:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 104.00002, Best ask: 105.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99998, Last trade: 104.00002, 24 hour volume: 303945.09547122, 24 hour low: 77.00000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 107.75710
Apr 13 15:14:52 <thestringpuller_>	here we go boys!
Apr 13 15:14:53 <Diablo-D3>	whats the command for the diff predictor
Apr 13 15:15:31 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 13 15:15:34 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231182 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 657 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 3 hours, 10 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8979353.11245 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.02533
Apr 13 15:16:00 <Diablo-D3>	;;difficulty
Apr 13 15:16:00 <gribble>	Error: "difficulty" is not a valid command.
Apr 13 15:16:56 <Diablo-D3>	heh, I did the math
Apr 13 15:16:56 <Diablo-D3>	at current prices
Apr 13 15:18:02 <Bugpowder>	101
Apr 13 15:18:06 <Diablo-D3>	my 7970 will be out of the game in 5.85x increase in diff
Apr 13 15:18:27 <Scrat>	look at that 100 floor going down fast
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Apr 13 15:18:50 <thestringpuller_>	Diablo-D3: 7970 what?
Apr 13 15:18:54 <thestringpuller_>	is that an ATI card?
Apr 13 15:19:03 <mjr___>	http://youtu.be/JaKCM8myJ9I
Apr 13 15:19:06 <mjr___>	great link
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Apr 13 15:20:01 <Diablo-D3>	yes'
Apr 13 15:22:21 <mjr___>	so, question diablo
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Apr 13 15:22:30 <mjr___>	why do nvidia cards suck
Apr 13 15:22:46 <thestringpuller_>	;;ticker
Apr 13 15:22:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.61000, Best ask: 102.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39000, Last trade: 102.00000, 24 hour volume: 303614.33007520, 24 hour low: 77.00000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 107.93766
Apr 13 15:22:48 <mjr___>	is it that they don't run sha-256 well
Apr 13 15:23:03 <mjr___>	and is it possible to change the algorithm so it would run better on them
Apr 13 15:23:49 <mjr___>	i mean you can optimize algorithms for different hardware
Apr 13 15:24:03 <mjr___>	has anyone tried to implement it for an nvidia card?
Apr 13 15:24:32 <Bugpowder>	less cores
Apr 13 15:24:40 <Bugpowder>	ATI uses more cores that are less powerful
Apr 13 15:24:54 <Bugpowder>	but you don't need power, you need paralleization
Apr 13 15:24:58 <mjr___>	yes
Apr 13 15:25:04 <mjr___>	i get that
Apr 13 15:25:18 <mjr___>	hmmm...i wonder if you could reimplement the design though
Apr 13 15:25:27 <mjr___>	from what i saw in the fpga world
Apr 13 15:25:29 <Bugpowder>	yah, som ati cores have 4096 cores
Apr 13 15:25:30 <Bugpowder>	boom
Apr 13 15:25:34 <Bugpowder>	gotta run
Apr 13 15:25:35 <mjr___>	they focused on latency
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Apr 13 15:25:36 <Bugpowder>	later dudes
Apr 13 15:25:38 <mjr___>	not throughput
Apr 13 15:25:41 <Bugpowder>	enjoy the frenzy
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Apr 13 15:26:10 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaKCM8myJ9I&feature=youtu.be
Apr 13 15:26:33 <mjr___>	i just posted that
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Apr 13 15:28:01 <Diablo-D3>	sorry, forgot which channel I got it from
Apr 13 15:28:12 <mjr___>	lol np
Apr 13 15:28:25 <mjr___>	was just curious
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Apr 13 15:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.55 BTC [+]
Apr 13 15:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 15:34:45 <mjr___>	so Diablo-D3, my friend is into vhdl, he said that people have focused on lower latency rather than higher throughput
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Apr 13 15:35:02 <Skarr>	;;bids 32
Apr 13 15:35:04 <gribble>	There are currently 162992.2 bitcoins demanded at or over 32.0 USD, worth 9357129.59605 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0064 seconds
Apr 13 15:35:08 <Skarr>	;;bids 30
Apr 13 15:35:08 <gribble>	There are currently 172070.76 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 9633345.26043 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.1968 seconds
Apr 13 15:36:23 <Diablo-D3>	mjr___: in context of what?
Apr 13 15:36:32 <olive_>	!facts
Apr 13 15:36:43 <olive_>	;;facts
Apr 13 15:36:43 <gribble>	To see a nice sortable web view of all factoids, click here: http://gribble.dreamhosters.com/viewfactoids.php?db=%23bitcoin-assets || To see a list of the most popular factoids, run !rank || To search factoids, run !factoids search <yoursearchterm>
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Apr 13 15:37:00 <mjr___>	for example...in the open source fpga project
Apr 13 15:37:05 <mjr___>	they use distributed ram
Apr 13 15:37:11 <mjr___>	wasting LUT's on memory
Apr 13 15:37:14 <olive_>	;;help
Apr 13 15:37:15 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Apr 13 15:37:28 <olive_>	;;lag
Apr 13 15:37:29 <gribble>	Error: "lag" is not a valid command.
Apr 13 15:37:55 <mjr___>	his theory was to take 200 clock cycles or whatever to load in the first attempt at a hash, after that point, you are doing one hash per clock cycle
Apr 13 15:38:34 <mjr___>	the main problem is the UART is a bottleneck, you have to serialize it
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Apr 13 15:39:00 <Diablo-D3>	mjr___: I dont see the point in decreasing latency in that
Apr 13 15:39:08 <mjr___>	so as you load it bit by bit, you can pipeline the whole thing, so it doesn't even need memory at all
Apr 13 15:39:12 <taub>	stop the gox, you cant stop the gox
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Apr 13 15:39:14 <Diablo-D3>	mjr___: its why Im a fan of sea of rolled cores over unrolled cores
Apr 13 15:39:20 <taub>	;;title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GHN1Mu6VG0
Apr 13 15:39:21 <gribble>	Apollo 440 - Stop The Rock - YouTube
Apr 13 15:39:21 <Diablo-D3>	you get better hardware usage
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Apr 13 15:40:58 <taub>	btce surpassing mtgox easily in the last half hour in volume...
Apr 13 15:41:03 <taub>	because guess what
Apr 13 15:41:13 <taub>	nobody wants to trade on your piece of shit exchange tux
Apr 13 15:41:23 <mjr___>	30 minutes lag? no thanks
Apr 13 15:41:53 <Scrat>	"we'll entice you with 0 fees
Apr 13 15:41:55 <Scrat>	"
Apr 13 15:42:04 <mjr___>	worst, most illogical idea ever
Apr 13 15:42:22 <taub>	dont thing the fees are to blame really
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Apr 13 15:42:25 <mjr___>	we are bad at doing our current volume...let's make LESS money, and make the problem worse in one fell swoop
Apr 13 15:42:46 <mjr___>	its the fact that they aren't limiting "lot size"
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Apr 13 15:43:17 <mjr___>	so now i can keep spamming .02 bitcoin orders for no fees, so i can jump in and out whenever i want, trying to make pennies in difference
Apr 13 15:43:48 <mjr___>	you not only increase the volume from new people, you make it more viable for bots to send more orders
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Apr 13 15:44:02 <mjr___>	its all about incentives
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Apr 13 15:44:16 <mjr___>	double fees for smaller orders
Apr 13 15:44:23 <Scrat>	it's all about common sense which they lack
Apr 13 15:44:26 <mjr___>	exactly
Apr 13 15:45:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 15:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.34999999 = 4.9 BTC [+]
Apr 13 15:52:31 <taub>	maybe they're faking lag to "cool down" prices
Apr 13 15:52:40 <taub>	wouldnt put it past them
Apr 13 15:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
Apr 13 15:54:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.81 = 4.86 BTC [+]
Apr 13 15:54:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01499 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 16:02:45 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 16:02:46 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2632.795993 seconds. During this time, light travels 5.27609369172 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
Apr 13 16:03:12 <pgp>	really...  volume not heavy at all...  anyone know anything?
Apr 13 16:04:15 <Skarr>	pgp - while the lag-times are still rising, the system is functionally dead. I take the tiny-volume orders as just that - evidence that the engine remains, for all practical purposes, fully choked.
Apr 13 16:04:24 <mjr___>	pgp: volume is not really very a good indicator
Apr 13 16:04:29 <mjr___>	since we are looking at volume in coins
Apr 13 16:04:44 <mjr___>	their could be 1000 orders for every coin
Apr 13 16:04:46 <mjr___>	or 1
Apr 13 16:04:50 <Skarr>	Over the last few days, I've waited to see 3 or 4 continuous bars with real volume (on a M1 chart) before getting any confidence the lag was about to abate.
Apr 13 16:05:34 <mjr___>	with no fees...you only incentivize .01 orders...
Apr 13 16:06:00 <olive_>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 16:06:01 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2739.858146 seconds. During this time, light travels 5.4906450476 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
Apr 13 16:06:02 <mjr___>	its retarded
Apr 13 16:06:16 <mod6>	this is getting out of hand.
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Apr 13 16:07:08 <Skarr>	;;ticker
Apr 13 16:07:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.52950, Best ask: 99.90000, Bid-ask spread: 3.37050, Last trade: 99.90000, 24 hour volume: 291952.19874457, 24 hour low: 85.00000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 108.98717
Apr 13 16:07:23 <mjr___>	time for open outcry...meet me in central park lol
Apr 13 16:08:06 <pgp>	so bitcoin24 is done, eh?
Apr 13 16:09:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.003734 = 3.734 BTC [+]
Apr 13 16:09:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.003734 = 0.9335 BTC [+]
Apr 13 16:10:54 <mod6>	mjr___: haha, that'd be awesome
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Apr 13 16:11:21 <b0n1>	can i actually cancel orders with status pending in mtgox ?
Apr 13 16:12:00 <taub>	yes
Apr 13 16:12:09 <taub>	gox running at one order per second
Apr 13 16:12:18 <taub>	order, not trade...
Apr 13 16:15:26 <Skarr>	trade engine cooldown? when did that happen?
Apr 13 16:19:20 <olive_>	so trading is back in1 minute?
Apr 13 16:19:23 <olive_>	??
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Apr 13 16:20:00 <taub>	their stupid attempts to manipulate price
Apr 13 16:20:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5534 @ 0.00073 = 4.0398 BTC [+]
Apr 13 16:20:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9916 @ 0.000735 = 7.2883 BTC [+]
Apr 13 16:20:17 <taub>	wonder if they bought a lot themselves at 250
Apr 13 16:20:35 <mjr___>	how would it help them to buy there and then tank the price?
Apr 13 16:20:43 <olive_>	i don't think they are taking advantage in killing bit coin and their own business
Apr 13 16:20:53 <taub>	well maybe they think they are helping the price by making trading impossible
Apr 13 16:21:17 <mjr___>	lol
Apr 13 16:21:38 <taub>	they already suspended trading 12 hours once for it
Apr 13 16:21:49 <mjr___>	but prices had been risign
Apr 13 16:21:51 <mjr___>	rising
Apr 13 16:22:01 <olive_>	they should suspend it for good, until they fix their servers
Apr 13 16:22:04 <Skarr>	now, if orders are shut down for 20 minutes...wouldn't you think their lag would make progress in that interim?
Apr 13 16:22:16 <olive_>	just like they did zhen they were hacked
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Apr 13 16:26:31 <KRS1>	i think its an opencl thing
Apr 13 16:28:30 <pgp>	opencl?  really?
Apr 13 16:31:14 <pgp>	lag charts from orkaa http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
Apr 13 16:31:25 <pgp>	sweet jesus!
Apr 13 16:32:35 <deadweasel>	those are great charts.  thanks you jezus!
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Apr 13 16:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.55 = 4.65 BTC [+]
Apr 13 16:33:52 <pgp>	he also has a price chart overlaying 4 biggest exchanges - also nice...
Apr 13 16:34:05 <pgp>	http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/all/
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Apr 13 16:35:27 <pgp>	768 coins traded on gox at 92.xx
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Apr 13 16:36:09 <KRS1>	yess..great charts
Apr 13 16:36:39 <pgp>	orkaa - you online?  take a bow!
Apr 13 16:36:45 <pgp>	91
Apr 13 16:37:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00070378 = 7.0378 BTC [-]
Apr 13 16:37:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00070377 = 7.2136 BTC [-]
Apr 13 16:37:08 <KRS1>	wow big dive on btc-e
Apr 13 16:37:10 <pgp>	8 dollare spread
Apr 13 16:37:39 <pgp>	bitstamp too
Apr 13 16:37:55 <KRS1>	i must not have refreshed my screen I was seeing almost $100 one minute next minute $84
Apr 13 16:38:07 <mjr___>	really hard to trade with lag like this
Apr 13 16:38:12 <mjr___>	market data is suspect
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Apr 13 16:38:27 <mjr___>	order execution is spotty
Apr 13 16:38:32 <KRS1>	mjr: i was thinking that since wed/thurs
Apr 13 16:38:36 <mjr___>	yeeah
Apr 13 16:38:47 <mjr___>	i sold 5 coins locally
Apr 13 16:38:59 <KRS1>	that seems to be the best bet! i bet
Apr 13 16:39:08 <mjr___>	i mean, i didn't want to sell a lot
Apr 13 16:39:16 <mjr___>	it was only cuz a friend wanted to get in
Apr 13 16:39:26 <KRS1>	you are holding on then..
Apr 13 16:39:30 <mjr___>	of course
Apr 13 16:39:36 <mjr___>	going to try to double my position tomorrow
Apr 13 16:39:39 <mjr___>	if prices are right
Apr 13 16:39:44 <KRS1>	nice!
Apr 13 16:39:46 <pgp>	mjr - who?
Apr 13 16:40:01 <mjr___>	my friend doug
Apr 13 16:40:40 <pgp>	you'll be able to buy them back cheaper now
Apr 13 16:40:40 <b0n1>	is there a market where you can deposit money really fast?
Apr 13 16:40:49 <b0n1>	with low fees
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Apr 13 16:40:52 <pgp>	bitfloor
Apr 13 16:41:00 <b0n1>	how fast?
Apr 13 16:41:40 <pgp>	localtill through bac of america - if you can find a branch that's open...
Apr 13 16:42:03 <pgp>	go to there website and it will tell you
Apr 13 16:42:27 <pgp>	within 1/2 hour to 1 hour...
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Apr 13 16:43:02 <pgp>	other ways too, but higher fees, but maybe only option on weekend...   bitinstant...
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Apr 13 16:45:14 <mjr___>	http://blockchain.info/charts/my-wallet-n-users?showDataPoints=false&show_header=true&daysAverageString=1&timespan=&scale=1&address=
Apr 13 16:45:20 <mjr___>	number of mywallet users
Apr 13 16:45:44 <pgp>	<+amphipod> Apr13 20:44:38 mtgox    x122 2,021.8965 @    92.90482106 USD
Apr 13 16:45:53 <pgp>	that's a lot of coin
Apr 13 16:46:26 <deadweasel>	what does the x122 mean?  this purchase times 122?
Apr 13 16:46:28 <pgp>	fuck 90 gone just like that
Apr 13 16:46:45 <mjr___>	was that a bid or ask?
Apr 13 16:46:46 <pgp>	86
Apr 13 16:47:02 <pgp>	bid
Apr 13 16:47:13 <b0n1>	pgp,  bitinstant sounds good, but i am from germany
Apr 13 16:47:24 <b0n1>	i dont have lots of possibilities there, only coupons
Apr 13 16:47:28 <mjr___>	isn't bitstamp in the eurozone?
Apr 13 16:47:35 <deadweasel>	localbitcoins.com?
Apr 13 16:47:39 <deadweasel>	uk
Apr 13 16:48:09 <Scrat>	php/mysql hobbyists cant run an exchange. more at 11
Apr 13 16:48:10 <pgp>	<+amphipod> Apr13 20:46:21 mtgox    x130 1,658.7634 @    87.97088002 USD
Apr 13 16:48:25 <mjr___>	pgp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaKCM8myJ9I
Apr 13 16:48:44 <pgp>	bitstamp is in slovenia
Apr 13 16:49:08 <mjr___>	ah, but you can send using sepa?
Apr 13 16:49:18 <Scrat>	yes
Apr 13 16:49:20 <deyyo>	idd
Apr 13 16:50:05 <b0n1>	sepa takes nearly a day mostly i think
Apr 13 16:50:09 <b0n1>	working day
Apr 13 16:50:29 <deyyo>	1-3 actually :P
Apr 13 16:50:37 <KRS1>	gox suspended trade again?
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Apr 13 16:50:59 <mjr___>	i wonder if there are any good deals on localbitcoins
Apr 13 16:51:12 <b0n1>	lots of scammers there
Apr 13 16:51:31 <b0n1>	especially in munich area
Apr 13 16:51:35 <mjr___>	true
Apr 13 16:51:39 <mjr___>	use their escrow
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Apr 13 16:52:23 <b0n1>	i talked to a guy yesterday, who told me that his daddy doesnt support this anymore...
Apr 13 16:52:25 <mjr___>	hmmm, cash in hand still carries a premium, i think that shows something
Apr 13 16:52:39 <pgp>	https://www.bitcoin.de/en is in germany
Apr 13 16:52:45 <mjr___>	its around 95-113 on local
Apr 13 16:53:02 <b0n1>	pgp,  i know this
Apr 13 16:53:10 <b0n1>	but i am searching for something that is faster than sepa
Apr 13 16:53:23 <b0n1>	i need to get more money on the markets
Apr 13 16:53:35 <b0n1>	dont want to wait till monday or even tuesday
Apr 13 16:53:49 <mjr___>	bitinstant...think that's the only way
Apr 13 16:53:55 <KRS1>	sellorder for 283.9 btc on btc-e
Apr 13 16:53:59 <KRS1>	at $89
Apr 13 16:54:00 <pgp>	well - if they are physically not too far - you might be able to give them a bag of euros...
Apr 13 16:54:14 <mjr___>	make it a briefcase...
Apr 13 16:54:15 <punkman1>	b0n1, could buy Linden Dollars
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Apr 13 16:55:18 <mjr___>	the thing that gives me the most hope is that this is an idea that takes all kinds
Apr 13 16:55:28 <mjr___>	republicans and democrats...english speakers and others
Apr 13 16:55:35 <mjr___>	it should fade into the background
Apr 13 16:55:39 <mjr___>	and just be there
Apr 13 16:55:52 <mjr___>	as a layer of financial stability
Apr 13 16:56:07 <punkman1>	there will be a few of them
Apr 13 16:56:16 <mjr___>	i never thought i would agree with larry kudlow on anything
Apr 13 16:56:17 <punkman1>	not all will make the cut
Apr 13 16:56:36 <mjr___>	i am what you would call a liberal...
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Apr 13 16:57:10 <punkman1>	when I say few, I mean bitcoins, ripples, etc
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Apr 13 16:58:54 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 16:58:55 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 3.892995 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00780151839186 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).
Apr 13 16:58:59 <pgp>	bullshit
Apr 13 16:59:06 <pgp>	wtf is going on
Apr 13 16:59:19 <mjr___>	did they not halt again?
Apr 13 16:59:56 <Scrat>	that lag figure is bogus
Apr 13 17:00:05 <mjr___>	because they are not doing any trading right now i thought
Apr 13 17:00:07 <Scrat>	there's like a trade every minute
Apr 13 17:00:29 <pgp>	trading up on other exchnges, though
Apr 13 17:00:45 <mjr___>	yes, but that wouldn't be in goxlag
Apr 13 17:00:53 <mjr___>	thats why the figure is bogus right now
Apr 13 17:01:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 17:02:23 <Scrat>	ThickAsThieves: looks exactly like the exit of the bull trap indeed
Apr 13 17:03:06 <pgp>	uh oh 86
Apr 13 17:03:17 <pgp>	scrat - yes!
Apr 13 17:03:18 <taub>	btce higher price than gox lol
Apr 13 17:03:26 <mjr___>	i've all but decided to ignore mt gox
Apr 13 17:03:32 <pgp>	massive spread
Apr 13 17:04:11 <pgp>	mjr: ignore all you want, but that is where the volume is whether we like it or not...
Apr 13 17:04:16 <mjr___>	true
Apr 13 17:04:27 <mjr___>	but i think that none of the info is accurate right now
Apr 13 17:04:49 <mjr___>	basically i meant i am removing myself from the day to day speculation
Apr 13 17:05:01 <mjr___>	in a year, we won't have to worry about this
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Apr 13 17:05:27 <KRS1>	smart
Apr 13 17:05:42 <mjr___>	i personally think that this is proven to be valuable, the shitty exchanges, the amateurish business practices...those will fade away
Apr 13 17:05:57 <KRS1>	;;ticker
Apr 13 17:05:58 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.30000, Best ask: 97.70000, Bid-ask spread: 5.40000, Last trade: 97.70000, 24 hour volume: 277905.74548814, 24 hour low: 86.10000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 109.98186
Apr 13 17:06:11 <KRS1>	how are these trolls saying $45 on cocks
Apr 13 17:06:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00070861 = 14.8099 BTC [+]
Apr 13 17:06:23 <KRS1>	damn trollbox
Apr 13 17:06:28 <mjr___>	hahaha
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Apr 13 17:07:22 <mjr___>	i'm just too tired to care about mt gox anymore (i've never actually used their exchange)
Apr 13 17:08:03 <pgp>	new low
Apr 13 17:09:08 <pgp>	now the lag figure comes back
Apr 13 17:09:12 <pgp>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 17:09:13 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 418.186162 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.838040386402 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
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Apr 13 17:09:43 <c1n0>	7am here
Apr 13 17:09:54 <c1n0>	another succesful night
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Apr 13 17:16:16 <ll>	!t h him
Apr 13 17:16:18 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.42000000 / 1.52325 / 1.55000000 (40 shares, 60.93000000 BTC), 7D: 0.75000001 / 1.43929106 / 1.93000000 (302 shares, 434.66590011 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.72087506 / 2.08000000 (822 shares, 1414.55930041 BTC)
Apr 13 17:17:17 <mjr___>	i believe bitfloor is still over 100
Apr 13 17:18:47 <KRS1>	it's funny if you look it says 864901usd for buying BTC on btc-e but if look at the order book below it doesn't come close the buy walls are way lower then the 80's
Apr 13 17:19:22 <Namworld>	"Trade engine cooldown (lag too high), order placing suspended until 2013-04-13 21:30:00 UTC"
Apr 13 17:19:32 <Namworld>	Fuckin Gox?!?
Apr 13 17:19:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00121 BTC [+]
Apr 13 17:19:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.0012 = 0.012 BTC [-]
Apr 13 17:19:52 <Namworld>	They're doing this everytime the price tries to go down... fuckers
Apr 13 17:20:49 <mjr___>	this is why i am not paying attention to them
Apr 13 17:20:53 <mjr___>	too much distortion
Apr 13 17:20:59 <mjr___>	price discovery is ruined there
Apr 13 17:21:03 <joecool>	LOL
Apr 13 17:21:08 <joecool>	Sat Apr 13 21:20:54 UTC 2013
Apr 13 17:21:11 <mjr___>	if you want to sell, i'd say transfer your coins, and find somewhere else
Apr 13 17:21:32 <ll>	!t b ASICMINER-PT
Apr 13 17:21:32 <assbot>	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
Apr 13 17:21:33 <mjr___>	you won't get the real value at gox
Apr 13 17:23:12 <KRS1>	;;ticker
Apr 13 17:23:23 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Apr 13 17:24:49 <mjr___>	this is what i mean though, they keep halting trading, lag is horrible, impossible to get good price discovery
Apr 13 17:24:59 <KRS1>	<@gribble> BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.00000, Best ask: 93.68822, Bid-ask spread: 1.68822, Last trade: 93.68822, 24 hour volume: 270184.75339750, 24 hour low: 85.81638, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 110.44672
Apr 13 17:25:07 <KRS1>	circa 45 sec ago
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Apr 13 17:27:38 <Namworld>	no, I already sold my coins
Apr 13 17:27:45 <Namworld>	like at the peak =P
Apr 13 17:27:52 <Namworld>	Just trying to daytrade >.>
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Apr 13 17:27:59 <Namworld>	and I get that notice...
Apr 13 17:28:04 <mjr___>	Namworld: you buying back in?
Apr 13 17:28:14 <pgp>	wait
Apr 13 17:28:21 <Namworld>	just a bit to resell on upswings
Apr 13 17:28:26 <Namworld>	trying to daytrade
Apr 13 17:28:42 <Namworld>	since there's no trading fees right now anyway
Apr 13 17:28:53 <pgp>	apt description - it take about a day to get your trade off at gox...
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Apr 13 17:30:51 <Namworld>	yeah
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Apr 13 17:39:31 <pgp>	;;bids 0
Apr 13 17:39:37 <gribble>	There are currently 44205127 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13852258.158 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0097 seconds
Apr 13 17:40:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.0012 = 0.0036 BTC [-]
Apr 13 17:40:51 <pgp>	lot a coin - new low
Apr 13 17:42:40 <mjr___>	i specifically think that cash transfers in are held up...
Apr 13 17:42:54 <mjr___>	though there may be less of that due to confusion
Apr 13 17:43:15 <pgp>	cash out of gox?  really?  anyone experiencing that?
Apr 13 17:43:25 <mjr___>	cash transfers in i think
Apr 13 17:43:34 <deadweasel>	localtill has notice about mass influx of ppl and delays
Apr 13 17:44:08 <mjr___>	that is what i am thinking
Apr 13 17:44:14 <mjr___>	cash coming in is lagging too
Apr 13 17:44:21 <mjr___>	but bitcoin can be moved easily
Apr 13 17:44:26 <mjr___>	pretty ironic actually
Apr 13 17:44:26 <deadweasel>	there is no decent way to do it right now
Apr 13 17:44:32 <pgp>	i see
Apr 13 17:44:46 <mjr___>	sellers of bitcoin can do it easier because of how well bitcoin works
Apr 13 17:45:02 <mjr___>	while buyers of bitcoin find it a lot harder because of the problem that bitcoin fixes
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Apr 13 17:45:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 17:49:04 <mjr___>	it is also funny because look how long it takes to get a wallet (10 minutes maybe) vs opening an account with gox (10 days)
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Apr 13 17:58:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00158 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 18:01:35 <mjr___>	106 on bitfloor
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Apr 13 18:05:15 <pgp>	wtf is going on?
Apr 13 18:05:35 <mjr___>	lol
Apr 13 18:06:07 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 13 18:06:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 106.00000, Best ask: 107.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 107.00000, 24 hour volume: 271659.47224216, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 110.06013
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Apr 13 18:23:20 <InstantBTC>	anybody want to buy bitfunder FIAT.USD?
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Apr 13 18:37:44 <mod6>	;;ticker
Apr 13 18:37:45 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.95922, Best ask: 100.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04078, Last trade: 100.00000, 24 hour volume: 256355.09573227, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 130.00000, 24 hour vwap: 110.70365
Apr 13 18:39:26 <InstantBTC>	anybody interested in bitfunder fiat.USD. willing to negotiate
Apr 13 18:39:32 <error4733>	!asks 0
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Apr 13 18:41:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 998 @ 0.01 = 9.98 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 18:43:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00141 BTC [-]
Apr 13 18:44:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00141 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 18:50:25 <mod6>	;;bids 70
Apr 13 18:50:28 <gribble>	There are currently 44077.116 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 3582388.69964 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0045 seconds
Apr 13 18:51:46 <KRS1>	;;bids 50
Apr 13 18:51:46 <gribble>	There are currently 111597.63 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 7394789.86558 USD in total. | Data vintage: 78.6505 seconds
Apr 13 18:52:00 <KRS1>	woa only $20 diff
Apr 13 18:52:12 <KRS1>	more than doubles..hmm
Apr 13 18:52:39 <KRS1>	;;bids 60
Apr 13 18:52:41 <gribble>	There are currently 68666.837 bitcoins demanded at or over 60.0 USD, worth 5118822.40047 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0057 seconds
Apr 13 18:56:02 <Skarr>	downturn starts within 2 minutes, methinks
Apr 13 18:57:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00070377 = 1.7946 BTC [-]
Apr 13 18:57:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00069882 = 4.8917 BTC [-]
Apr 13 18:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5190 @ 0.00069532 = 3.6087 BTC [-]
Apr 13 18:59:57 <Skarr>	prediction fail
Apr 13 19:00:45 <mod6>	book depth looks strong down to $70: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD_depth.html
Apr 13 19:00:57 <mod6>	but... heh, who would want to trade gox?
Apr 13 19:02:10 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 19:02:11 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 21.636523 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0433593498374 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Apr 13 19:02:16 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --last
Apr 13 19:02:17 <gribble>	100.00000
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Apr 13 19:03:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.819982 BTC [+]
Apr 13 19:05:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.819983 BTC [+]
Apr 13 19:05:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.819985 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 19:05:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.82 = 9.02 BTC [+]
Apr 13 19:06:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.822 = 7.398 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 19:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.54 = 15.4 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 19:14:09 <mjr___>	smickles: hi
Apr 13 19:14:16 <mjr___>	;;seen smickles
Apr 13 19:14:16 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 7 hours, 31 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
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Apr 13 19:21:49 <kakobrekla>	;;bids 90
Apr 13 19:21:51 <gribble>	There are currently 11300.548 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 1071065.90632 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0046 seconds
Apr 13 19:22:49 <kakobrekla>	where are cheap coins?
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Apr 13 19:41:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34595 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 19:42:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 8 @ 0.34596 = 2.7677 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 19:45:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 99 @ 0.01499 = 1.484 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 19:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [+]
Apr 13 19:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3874 BTC [+]
Apr 13 19:49:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.11 = 0.66 BTC [+]
Apr 13 19:51:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 7 @ 0.119 = 0.833 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 19:54:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 19:56:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34595 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 20:00:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.119 = 0.595 BTC [+]
Apr 13 20:01:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 689 @ 0.35 = 241.15 BTC [+]
Apr 13 20:02:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [-]
Apr 13 20:02:36 <ll>	!t h sdice
Apr 13 20:02:39 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.33500001 / 0.34968039 / 0.35000000 (747 shares, 261.21125000 BTC), 7D: 0.12500000 / 0.31245602 / 0.37000000 (2073 shares, 647.72133729 BTC), 30D: 0.12500000 / 0.38628791 / 0.59999900 (8030 shares, 3101.89191280 BTC)
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Apr 13 20:18:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.143 = 1.43 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 20:23:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 20:45:23 <KRS1>	;;goxlag
Apr 13 20:45:23 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 13 20:50:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.819 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 20:53:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.0007007 = 9.5646 BTC [+]
Apr 13 20:53:16 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 13 20:53:19 <gribble>	There are currently 44240131 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14453212.1318 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0256 seconds
Apr 13 20:53:31 <altoz>	;;asks 9999999
Apr 13 20:53:32 <gribble>	There are currently 127272.85 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999.0 USD, worth 178074353.971 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.3814 seconds
Apr 13 20:53:44 <altoz>	;;bids 10
Apr 13 20:53:44 <gribble>	There are currently 409849.79 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 13475688.28 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.0461 seconds
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Apr 13 20:54:22 <mjr___>	slow in here today
Apr 13 20:56:12 <KRS1>	everybody's ass is probably sore.
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Apr 13 20:56:38 <kakobrekla>	or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep_2KA1z4mM
Apr 13 20:57:04 <KRS1>	heh
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Apr 13 20:58:59 <mod6>	(17:56) < KRS1> everybody's ass is probably sore. << haha
Apr 13 20:59:10 <mod6>	you know it.
Apr 13 20:59:11 <mjr___>	lol
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Apr 13 21:06:33 <leotreasure>	https://soundcloud.com/djleo/ive-had-it
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Apr 13 21:26:35 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 13 21:26:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 98.81880, Best ask: 99.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18120, Last trade: 98.81880, 24 hour volume: 213242.47678429, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 124.11298, 24 hour vwap: 106.88367
Apr 13 21:29:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.12601 BTC [-]
Apr 13 21:29:22 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 13 21:29:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.126 BTC [-]
Apr 13 21:29:24 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 9 hours, 46 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 13 21:29:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.126 BTC [-]
Apr 13 21:29:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 12 @ 0.12552 = 1.5062 BTC [-]
Apr 13 21:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
Apr 13 21:30:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.35 = 4.9 BTC [-]
Apr 13 21:31:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.40998 = 1.6399 BTC [+]
Apr 13 21:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3874 = 0.7748 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 21:41:39 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Apr 13 21:41:43 <gribble>	Time since last block: 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 17 seconds
Apr 13 21:41:47 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Apr 13 21:42:48 <kakobrekla>	dis true?
Apr 13 21:43:11 <mjr___>	where does it poll that data from?
Apr 13 21:43:30 <kakobrekla>	dunno is same on blockchain info
Apr 13 21:43:33 <kakobrekla>	same on bitbet
Apr 13 21:43:56 <kakobrekla>	and im not on the .8 yet
Apr 13 21:44:01 <kakobrekla>	:p
Apr 13 21:44:57 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 13 21:44:58 <gribble>	64826.4990867
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Apr 13 21:47:37 <mjr___>	weird
Apr 13 21:48:02 <mjr___>	with my bitcoin client, i am not getting any hash rate
Apr 13 21:48:24 <mjr___>	oh never mind
Apr 13 21:51:56 <kakobrekla>	i must get some rest but im not leaving until i see a block
Apr 13 21:55:00 <mjr___>	ah it makes sense
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Apr 13 21:58:48 <mjr___>	kakobrekla: the price drop forced miners out...the difficulty is too high, it won't readjust for a little while
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Apr 13 22:01:21 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Apr 13 22:01:31 <mjr___>	i think that is what happened
Apr 13 22:01:32 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 13 22:01:35 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231228 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 611 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 17 hours, 57 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9032242.26206 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.71461
Apr 13 22:01:38 <kakobrekla>	not that hard
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Apr 13 22:01:56 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
Apr 13 22:01:58 <mjr___>	those stats are taking a lot of earlier time into account
Apr 13 22:02:07 <mjr___>	this has only been 2 days of craziness
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Apr 13 22:02:39 <kakobrekla>	sipa seems normal
Apr 13 22:02:50 <kakobrekla>	i dont think they unplug that fast
Apr 13 22:03:02 <kakobrekla>	lookin at btcguild no change in hashrate
Apr 13 22:03:06 <kakobrekla>	other pools same
Apr 13 22:03:22 <kakobrekla>	so i dont think its that
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Apr 13 22:03:47 <kakobrekla>	they need 1-2 weeks to plug/unplug
Apr 13 22:04:14 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Apr 13 22:04:24 <kakobrekla>	they are pluggin and unplugign in that timeframe
Apr 13 22:04:41 <kakobrekla>	ok
Apr 13 22:04:45 <kakobrekla>	we have signal :)
Apr 13 22:04:48 <kakobrekla>	;;tslb
Apr 13 22:04:54 <gribble>	Time since last block: 2 minutes and 32 seconds
Apr 13 22:05:58 <kakobrekla>	also mjr___
Apr 13 22:05:59 <kakobrekla>	http://smpake.com/etc/btc/
Apr 13 22:06:38 <kakobrekla>	seems to be that reward today is double the mean of the chart
Apr 13 22:06:50 <kakobrekla>	which is about 0.3 id say
Apr 13 22:07:03 <kakobrekla>	and with asic it should get lower
Apr 13 22:09:15 <kakobrekla>	basically lookin at this chart
Apr 13 22:09:22 <kakobrekla>	this bubble was way smaller
Apr 13 22:10:05 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 13 22:10:06 <mjr___>	true
Apr 13 22:10:20 <mjr___>	not sure, i just saw a decent drop in hash rate
Apr 13 22:10:38 <mjr___>	but it could have been just a random thing...after all, its supposed to average one every ten minutes
Apr 13 22:10:46 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 13 22:10:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.01459, Best ask: 100.13051, Bid-ask spread: 0.11592, Last trade: 100.01458, 24 hour volume: 205660.71542834, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 124.11298, 24 hour vwap: 106.52738
Apr 13 22:10:49 <kakobrekla>	meh
Apr 13 22:10:53 <kakobrekla>	still at 100 what is this.
Apr 13 22:10:57 <kakobrekla>	dog?
Apr 13 22:11:00 <mjr___>	lol
Apr 13 22:11:06 <mjr___>	i think 100 is a good price for now
Apr 13 22:11:30 <kakobrekla>	my bids are lower
Apr 13 22:11:44 <kakobrekla>	like everybodys
Apr 13 22:11:46 <kakobrekla>	so wtf
Apr 13 22:11:49 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 13 22:11:57 <mjr___>	i'm just holding
Apr 13 22:12:54 <mjr___>	in our mining project, he said the hash rate was down so it was more urgent to get in
Apr 13 22:12:56 <mjr___>	not sure
Apr 13 22:13:12 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Apr 13 22:13:51 <kakobrekla>	well im off - later
Apr 13 22:15:06 <mjr___>	see ya
Apr 13 22:16:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00069532 = 2.816 BTC [-]
Apr 13 22:24:45 <mod6>	was a long gap between 231228 and 231229
Apr 13 22:24:55 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 13 22:24:57 <mod6>	was doing some scrollback...
Apr 13 22:25:22 <mod6>	i guess it happens sometimes... usually when i send some coins lol
Apr 13 22:25:27 <mjr___>	hehehe
Apr 13 22:26:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 77 @ 0.01 = 0.77 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 22:31:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4760 @ 0.00069532 = 3.3097 BTC [-]
Apr 13 22:32:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8984 @ 0.00069341 = 6.2296 BTC [-]
Apr 13 22:32:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1238 @ 0.00068998 = 0.8542 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 22:58:55 <ThickAsThieves>	gox fees are back
Apr 13 23:00:30 <joecool>	and nothing has changed
Apr 13 23:02:29 <ThickAsThieves>	lag is gone too
Apr 13 23:02:38 <ThickAsThieves>	since before the fees were added
Apr 13 23:02:46 <joecool>	ThickAsThieves: that's just cause people out boozing and stuff
Apr 13 23:02:57 <joecool>	lag was there a few hours ago
Apr 13 23:03:34 <joecool>	mtgoxlive started working again though
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Apr 13 23:03:43 <joecool>	http://mtgoxlive.com/orders << lol
Apr 13 23:04:05 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
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Apr 13 23:16:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.82 = 3.28 BTC [+]
Apr 13 23:17:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 61 @ 0.01 = 0.61 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 23:24:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.004499 BTC [-]
Apr 13 23:25:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003734 BTC [+]
Apr 13 23:25:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00236 BTC [-]
Apr 13 23:26:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00223 BTC [+]
Apr 13 23:29:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0014 BTC [-]
Apr 13 23:30:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.82 = 1.64 BTC [+]
Apr 13 23:30:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.82 = 2.46 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 23:32:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000689 BTC [-]
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Apr 13 23:36:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [+]
Apr 13 23:42:03 <mod6>	;;ticker
Apr 13 23:42:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.04001, Best ask: 101.50590, Bid-ask spread: 0.46589, Last trade: 101.50590, 24 hour volume: 207305.58986656, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 124.11298, 24 hour vwap: 106.30034
Apr 13 23:42:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Apr 13 23:55:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [+]
Apr 13 23:55:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.82 = 1.64 BTC [+]
Apr 13 23:56:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00069016 = 8.8686 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 00:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2467 @ 0.0006884 = 1.6983 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 00:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3933 @ 0.0006884 = 2.7075 BTC [-]
Apr 14 00:40:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1350 @ 0.0006964 = 0.9401 BTC [+]
Apr 14 00:40:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6767 @ 0.00070036 = 4.7393 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 00:55:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40998 BTC [+]
Apr 14 00:56:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00236 BTC [-]
Apr 14 00:58:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00237 BTC [+]
Apr 14 01:01:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00236 BTC [-]
Apr 14 01:01:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 95 @ 0.00237 = 0.2252 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 01:17:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40999 BTC [+]
Apr 14 01:17:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.822999 = 20.575 BTC [+]
Apr 14 01:18:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 63 @ 0.823 = 51.849 BTC [+]
Apr 14 01:20:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.83 = 6.64 BTC [+]
Apr 14 01:24:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.83 = 2.49 BTC [+]
Apr 14 01:24:55 <ChaangNoi>	.83 nice
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Apr 14 01:29:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33 @ 0.00070036 = 0.0231 BTC [+]
Apr 14 01:29:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.0007007 = 6.3413 BTC [+]
Apr 14 01:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.5 = 4.5 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 01:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.42 = 4.26 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 01:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.41 = 5.64 BTC [-]
Apr 14 01:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.3361 = 2.3527 BTC [-]
Apr 14 01:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.336 = 4.704 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 01:43:07 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 14 01:43:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 105.00000, Best ask: 105.17999, Bid-ask spread: 0.17999, Last trade: 105.00000, 24 hour volume: 193498.04118730, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 124.11298, 24 hour vwap: 105.71471
Apr 14 01:43:13 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 14 01:43:14 <gribble>	104.62
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Apr 14 01:52:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 01:55:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00071749 = 5.0224 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 01:57:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.143 = 0.286 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 02:26:07 <wao>	;;goxlag
Apr 14 02:26:08 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
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Apr 14 02:31:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003734 = 0.1867 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 02:35:48 <c1n0>	can i get a BFL update
Apr 14 02:36:03 <c1n0>	why are they still advertising products for sale on their site?
Apr 14 02:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.385 BTC [-]
Apr 14 02:41:48 <ThickAsThieves>	because people are swtill dumn enuf to buy
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Apr 14 02:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50217 @ 0.00070362 = 35.3337 BTC [-]
Apr 14 02:48:57 <punkman1>	http://bex.io/  "Bex removes all the technical complexity of running a Bitcoin Exchange."
Apr 14 02:49:05 <punkman1>	heh
Apr 14 03:03:59 <taub>	cool cool
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Apr 14 03:05:17 <leotreasure>	;;goxlag
Apr 14 03:05:18 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.926978 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00185765353304 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 14 03:08:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 97 @ 0.0014 = 0.1358 BTC [-]
Apr 14 03:08:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5649 @ 0.00069789 = 3.9424 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 03:11:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0016 BTC [+]
Apr 14 03:12:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 42 @ 0.00179 = 0.0752 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 03:15:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0035 BTC [-]
Apr 14 03:15:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 03:19:35 <thestringpuller>	;;seen jurov
Apr 14 03:19:35 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 19 hours, 56 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <jurov> hashrate doesn't indicate that
Apr 14 03:20:04 <thestringpuller>	!ticker btctc ASICMINER-PT
Apr 14 03:20:06 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.78 / 0.81303 / 0.83 (278 shares, 226 BTC),  7D: 0.6269 / 0.76182 / 0.83 (1816 shares, 1383.5 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.77814 / 0.9489 (8390 shares, 6528.6 BTC)
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Apr 14 03:31:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.83 = 3.32 BTC [+]
Apr 14 03:32:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00069386 = 4.4407 BTC [-]
Apr 14 03:32:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.843 = 8.43 BTC [+]
Apr 14 03:33:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.844 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 03:37:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 03:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5351 @ 0.0006954 = 3.7211 BTC [+]
Apr 14 03:42:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2949 @ 0.00070247 = 2.0716 BTC [+]
Apr 14 03:44:27 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 14 03:44:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 104.87900, Best ask: 106.09999, Bid-ask spread: 1.22099, Last trade: 106.09999, 24 hour volume: 190225.74652771, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 124.11298, 24 hour vwap: 104.84247
Apr 14 03:44:43 <thestringpuller>	wow
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Apr 14 03:54:20 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 14 03:54:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 104.50001, Best ask: 104.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.47998, Last trade: 104.97999, 24 hour volume: 187737.21533910, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 122.00000, 24 hour vwap: 104.55933
Apr 14 03:54:24 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 100
Apr 14 03:54:26 <gribble>	There are currently 10173.156 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 1020846.26484 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
Apr 14 03:54:27 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 110
Apr 14 03:54:27 <gribble>	There are currently 3023.4399 bitcoins offered at or under 110.0 USD, worth 327358.198156 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1.4557 seconds
Apr 14 03:55:01 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 101
Apr 14 03:55:01 <gribble>	There are currently 1506.9519 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 153512.479656 USD in total. | Data vintage: 35.4764 seconds
Apr 14 03:56:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00178 BTC [-]
Apr 14 03:58:57 <thestringpuller>	!ticker H HIM
Apr 14 03:58:59 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.41000000 / 1.51360656 / 1.60000000 (61 shares, 92.33000000 BTC), 7D: 0.75000001 / 1.42487023 / 1.93000000 (309 shares, 440.28490011 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.71500511 / 2.08000000 (841 shares, 1442.31930041 BTC)
Apr 14 04:03:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00069386 = 2.0816 BTC [-]
Apr 14 04:03:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.0006923 = 15.5768 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 04:36:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14751 @ 0.00070247 = 10.3621 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 04:42:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00195 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 04:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.385 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 04:53:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.41 = 0.82 BTC [+]
Apr 14 04:54:22 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 14 04:54:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 103.50000, Best ask: 104.99991, Bid-ask spread: 1.49991, Last trade: 103.50000, 24 hour volume: 179212.74308339, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 117.90000, 24 hour vwap: 103.55658
Apr 14 04:54:32 <mircea_popescu>	heh, in the 100 to 130 corridor huh ?
Apr 14 04:54:33 <mircea_popescu>	nice.
Apr 14 04:57:10 <Scrat>	Apr14 08:55:52 mtgox    x207 4,302.5790 @   101.26449787 USD
Apr 14 04:57:11 <Scrat>	oh oh oh
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Apr 14 05:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 74 @ 0.3874 = 28.6676 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.3874 = 7.748 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:06:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 30 @ 0.39 = 11.7 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:06:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.365 = 0.73 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:08:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.3659 = 2.5613 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:08:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3659994 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:08:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.3659995 = 2.928 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:08:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.393 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:08:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.3935 = 5.509 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:08:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.394 = 9.85 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:08:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.3999999 = 8 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:08:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4 = 4 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 05:11:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 05:11:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.01 = 0.09 BTC [-]
Apr 14 05:11:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 229 @ 0.004 = 0.916 BTC [-]
Apr 14 05:12:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.0039 = 0.039 BTC [-]
Apr 14 05:14:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 6 @ 0.00223 = 0.0134 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 05:18:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.804 BTC [-]
Apr 14 05:18:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8031 = 2.4093 BTC [-]
Apr 14 05:20:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00361 BTC [-]
Apr 14 05:20:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.0036 = 0.108 BTC [-]
Apr 14 05:20:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0036 BTC [-]
Apr 14 05:20:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.00353 = 0.0141 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 05:20:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 19 @ 0.0035 = 0.0665 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 05:29:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00178 BTC [-]
Apr 14 05:32:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00178 BTC [-]
Apr 14 05:33:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.41 = 3.28 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 05:35:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.41 = 0.82 BTC [+]
Apr 14 05:36:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00178 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 05:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.40789999 = 1.2237 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 06:08:30 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174600.0;all
Apr 14 06:08:35 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin-24 apparently cocked up ?
Apr 14 06:09:49 <Namworld>	That's kind of part of the problem
Apr 14 06:10:05 <Namworld>	of why people keep using MtGox even if it keeps failing
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Apr 14 06:11:03 <Namworld>	Needs a better trading platform but trading elsewhere than MtGox can be risky.
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Apr 14 06:14:44 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 14 06:14:51 <mircea_popescu>	i see what you mean.
Apr 14 06:15:02 <mircea_popescu>	of course... i see mtgox as quite as risky myself
Apr 14 06:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	but then again i guess people have this too big to fail mentality going.
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Apr 14 06:17:25 <Namworld>	Well they could. I see it more as a longstanding history of not getting hacked out of all users funds. There was hacks but they at least protect their BTC wallet.
Apr 14 06:18:18 <Namworld>	You can't review code/measures unfortunately
Apr 14 06:18:57 <Namworld>	How many other platforms again and again, despite it occuring regularly, popped up with all funds on a hot wallet only to get it all stolen?
Apr 14 06:19:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10499 @ 0.00071058 = 7.4604 BTC [+]
Apr 14 06:19:39 <Namworld>	They know others were hacked but somehow don't protect their wallet still, despite having more than a fair warning that's not something to do.
Apr 14 06:19:54 <Namworld>	Anyway
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Apr 14 06:20:57 <mircea_popescu>	well take bitcoin-central.
Apr 14 06:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	they've done about the same thing, been in business for about the same interval etc.
Apr 14 06:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand people like bitfloor indeed don't opr at least didn't protect the walletr worth a shiot.
Apr 14 06:22:57 <Namworld>	yeah
Apr 14 06:23:18 <Namworld>	oh, I've made another chart of prices compared to the 2011 bubble in it's last days
Apr 14 06:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	show
Apr 14 06:23:27 <KRS1>	link?
Apr 14 06:23:31 <Namworld>	http://i.imgur.com/LWGXliJ.png
Apr 14 06:23:42 <KRS1>	ty!
Apr 14 06:23:54 <Namworld>	It mirrors the 2011 almost perfectly, albeit on a different price scale
Apr 14 06:24:01 <KRS1>	eerie
Apr 14 06:24:46 <mircea_popescu>	well in as much as there's rebound oscialltions after yeah
Apr 14 06:25:06 <Namworld>	Disclaimer: **similarities does not guarantee same outcome**
Apr 14 06:25:06 <mircea_popescu>	but to my eye the rise and the fall are pretty distinct
Apr 14 06:25:20 <mircea_popescu>	i mean june had a pronounced bear trap on the way up
Apr 14 06:25:22 <mircea_popescu>	april did not.
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Apr 14 06:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	april collapse was very deep and rebound sharply
Apr 14 06:25:41 <mircea_popescu>	 early on
Apr 14 06:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	june did no such thing
Apr 14 06:26:10 <Namworld>	Indeed, it's not a perfect replica.
Apr 14 06:26:29 <mircea_popescu>	how did you obtain red line ?
Apr 14 06:26:34 <mircea_popescu>	is it by some math or just hand drawn ?
Apr 14 06:26:56 <Namworld>	vague, hand drawn following of prices
Apr 14 06:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	a
Apr 14 06:27:02 <Namworld>	Not very accurate
Apr 14 06:27:10 <mircea_popescu>	that's dangerous as it may contain a lot of bias
Apr 14 06:27:16 <mircea_popescu>	sorta "see what you expect to see" thing
Apr 14 06:27:23 <Namworld>	True
Apr 14 06:27:59 <Namworld>	Albeit the drop was much steeper, resulting in a large gap in prices, which might have helped the rebound
Apr 14 06:28:20 <Namworld>	usually we see more rebounds/stronger ones on sharper movements
Apr 14 06:31:42 <Namworld>	Hmm, quite late it seems. ALready morning... I'll be on my way I think.
Apr 14 06:31:49 <Namworld>	Goodbye
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Apr 14 06:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	later
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Apr 14 06:38:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8031 BTC [-]
Apr 14 06:41:05 <KRS1>	mircea popescu- you know what...2011 didn't have something we have now..
Apr 14 06:41:15 <KRS1>	Fox News and Kudlow?  Attention..
Apr 14 06:41:57 <c1n0>	mircea is alive, fox news lied to me
Apr 14 06:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Apr 14 06:42:46 <c1n0>	don't panic sell, mircea is alive and well :)
Apr 14 06:42:53 <KRS1>	lol
Apr 14 06:43:00 <KRS1>	In Mircea we trust
Apr 14 06:43:22 <KRS1>	not that fox news and kudlow are the standard or anything..just using them as an example
Apr 14 06:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	trust, but verify.
Apr 14 06:43:49 <c1n0>	so glad we survived that crisis
Apr 14 06:43:54 <c1n0>	almost had to fake my death
Apr 14 06:44:22 <c1n0>	anyone scoop some nice cheap coins? :)
Apr 14 06:44:56 <c1n0>	"satoshi's miracle" 3 more before we have to decalre him a saint
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Apr 14 06:52:02 <mircea_popescu>	 The French government announced that starting this week, ketchup will no longer be allowed in any school or university cafeteria
Apr 14 06:52:10 <mircea_popescu>	what's north korea got ?
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Apr 14 07:00:53 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 14 07:00:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.72001, Best ask: 101.33741, Bid-ask spread: 0.61740, Last trade: 100.71001, 24 hour volume: 181415.51969588, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 117.88999, 24 hour vwap: 102.31635
Apr 14 07:00:57 <kakobrekla>	dammit
Apr 14 07:01:01 <kakobrekla>	i want my free coins
Apr 14 07:01:02 <KRS1>	a little man with an ego
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Apr 14 07:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol free coins for what
Apr 14 07:08:49 <kakobrekla>	for whta?
Apr 14 07:08:54 <kakobrekla>	for buyin!
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Apr 14 07:14:22 <KRS1>	ill take some free coins..im poor man just tryin to make it in this world
Apr 14 07:14:55 <KRS1>	might not be much to you, but its a big deal to me
Apr 14 07:16:21 <KRS1>	ill tell you a joke in return :D
Apr 14 07:17:29 <c1n0>	kimcoin
Apr 14 07:17:37 <c1n0>	use it or we'll kill gas your family
Apr 14 07:17:48 <kakobrekla>	dont worry, everything gets settled when we die if not sooner.
Apr 14 07:18:01 <c1n0>	havethe sucides stopped?
Apr 14 07:23:47 <KRS1>	Theres more coming.
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Apr 14 07:24:15 <KRS1>	That dude who put up his family's home for BTC at $160 is about due.
Apr 14 07:24:26 <KRS1>	Hope you all can sleep good at night.
Apr 14 07:24:37 <KRS1>	I know I can =D
Apr 14 07:24:57 <KRS1>	The BTC helps hehe
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Apr 14 07:27:55 <pgp>	morning all
Apr 14 07:28:55 <kakobrekla>	hi
Apr 14 07:29:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/discovering-the-secret-villanies-of-alluring-strumpets/
Apr 14 07:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	for the classically-minded.
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Apr 14 07:34:26 <pgp>	interesting post, mp
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Apr 14 07:35:06 <pgp>	the bitcoin "symbol" on the pants is priceless
Apr 14 07:35:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.00179 = 0.0107 BTC [+]
Apr 14 07:35:45 <mircea_popescu>	:)
Apr 14 07:36:05 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 14 07:40:28 <KRS1>	clap clap
Apr 14 07:42:14 <ThickAsThieves>	made $500 in my sleep last night with filled bids and asks :)
Apr 14 07:43:14 <pgp>	$avg
Apr 14 07:43:16 <mpexbot>	pgp: 101.38
Apr 14 07:44:13 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 14 07:44:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 104.11100, Best ask: 104.70999, Bid-ask spread: 0.59899, Last trade: 104.11100, 24 hour volume: 181576.37623180, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 117.88999, 24 hour vwap: 102.05784
Apr 14 07:44:26 <Diablo-D3>	so we're back to normal?
Apr 14 07:44:39 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Apr 14 07:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 44 @ 0.4 = 17.6 BTC [-]
Apr 14 07:45:14 <mircea_popescu>	seems pretty normal to me.
Apr 14 07:45:19 <KRS1>	is trading open on mtgox?
Apr 14 07:45:23 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Apr 14 07:45:26 <ThickAsThieves>	and lag is gone
Apr 14 07:45:29 <KRS1>	great-
Apr 14 07:45:48 <ThickAsThieves>	fees are back too
Apr 14 07:46:04 <pgp>	mp: is the bot ever gonna price puts below 1 ?
Apr 14 07:46:45 <mircea_popescu>	i am considering an algo adjustement. we're doing a bunch of modelling and measuring.
Apr 14 07:46:55 <ThickAsThieves>	sweet
Apr 14 07:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	in no case will this be before the end of the month however.
Apr 14 07:47:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i suspected
Apr 14 07:47:13 <ThickAsThieves>	was about to say i think bit is done for the month
Apr 14 07:47:18 <ThickAsThieves>	bot*
Apr 14 07:47:25 <pgp>	noted
Apr 14 07:47:43 <mircea_popescu>	can't make changes midmonth, especially as they'd be towards a reduction of premiums
Apr 14 07:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	as it'd be unfair to bondholders (whether any harm comes to them from it or not)
Apr 14 07:48:01 <ThickAsThieves>	plus it still could crash to 25
Apr 14 07:48:03 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 14 07:48:05 <mircea_popescu>	this on top of the usual consideration of just letting things be.
Apr 14 07:48:39 <pgp>	I understand...  I am wonderering, though, has anyone bought any of these infinite vol options?
Apr 14 07:49:14 <mircea_popescu>	haven;'t had muich trade since the huge swings, no.
Apr 14 07:49:25 <mircea_popescu>	notably pretty much noboduy is goiong in the midmarket either,
Apr 14 07:49:30 <mircea_popescu>	in spite of the huge spreads.
Apr 14 07:49:40 <pgp>	not yet ;-)
Apr 14 07:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 14 07:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	i9t's been days tho.
Apr 14 07:50:10 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i think the financial tier is well spooked by all the insanity propagated at the exchange tier.
Apr 14 07:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	just all the wash trading going on strictly for mtgox's desire to keep on lieing about its market share should be enough of a problem
Apr 14 07:50:37 <pgp>	yes...
Apr 14 07:50:51 <mircea_popescu>	but there's tons of other issues. so i think pretty m,uch everyotne's models are off the charts,
Apr 14 07:50:55 <pgp>	that's my view as well
Apr 14 07:51:00 <mircea_popescu>	they just have the advantage of not printing this as mpoe bot does.
Apr 14 07:51:14 <mircea_popescu>	well, "advantage"
Apr 14 07:53:12 <pgp>	mp: have yuo considered an RBH model for short calls, or do you see the hassle as not being worth the extra liquidity?
Apr 14 07:54:08 <pgp>	understand for bond holder's - fixed risk, but for other participants...
Apr 14 07:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	an upgrade to a more ellaborate model (such as but not necessarily limited to or equal with rbh) has been in the plan since 2011.
Apr 14 07:54:35 <mircea_popescu>	however, we don't have the market to support it yet is my estimation.
Apr 14 07:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	certainly the idea is to keep financial instruments as sophisticated as can be borne.
Apr 14 07:55:48 <pgp>	hmmm...  I think that what you need is more brokers...
Apr 14 07:56:16 <pgp>	and third party platform support to make the options less arcane...
Apr 14 07:56:20 <mircea_popescu>	certainly more brokers wouldn't hurt.
Apr 14 07:56:29 <pgp>	been thinking a lot about that lately
Apr 14 07:57:07 <mircea_popescu>	truth of the matter is there;'s plenty of room to get mpex stuff packaged as a sellable vehicvle. both equities and derivatives (diff, fiat, etc)
Apr 14 07:57:21 <ThickAsThieves>	the more brokers thing could improve soon...
Apr 14 07:57:24 <mircea_popescu>	this could be done via hedge funds or via other vehicles, but yeah
Apr 14 07:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	the thing is, most of this is yet immature. take the idiff futures as a great example. it will be a great instrument down the road buyt for now the underlying is just too nonsensical.
Apr 14 07:58:26 <mircea_popescu>	(and the people who really need the instrument, ie miners, are much too financially clueless)
Apr 14 07:59:04 <pgp>	mp: i don't think that you really have to do much more than you already are...  your focus on security and availability is what makes MPEX attractive
Apr 14 07:59:49 <mircea_popescu>	yes, i was about to say : a simple way to test rbh specifically is to just open a brokerage offering rbh-based leverage to customers.
Apr 14 07:59:52 <pgp>	marketing
Apr 14 08:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	this is much better than exchange-level implementation because it's so much easier to limit things. throw 1k btc at this project see how long it takes you to lose it all.
Apr 14 08:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	fold orderly, you've contributed no market instability and in fact an orderly folding is better for one's reputation than continued success.
Apr 14 08:01:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:01:13 <pgp>	I've implemented real-time RBH - its a hassle - and its arcane, but intellectually satisfying from a risk management standpoint
Apr 14 08:01:26 <mircea_popescu>	more generally the limited capital and orderly folding is a very important concept that i've been discussing with other people looking to make financial instruments in thsi chan
Apr 14 08:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	it's crucial for further development i think.
Apr 14 08:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	there's a reason llc companies irl list their capital.
Apr 14 08:01:56 <pgp>	agreed
Apr 14 08:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3968 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 80 @ 0.3968 = 31.744 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.3969 = 39.69 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.397 = 0.794 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.39797 = 3.9797 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 49 @ 0.39798 = 19.501 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.39798 = 1.5919 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.39799 = 9.1538 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.399 = 9.975 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:16 <ThickAsThieves>	most likely i'll be starting an options fund
Apr 14 08:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	currently everyone is play-pretending this "unlimited theoretical liability" angle. it's just not workable in any practical way.
Apr 14 08:02:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.30333 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	it's a fiction, and financial fiction never happy ends
Apr 14 08:02:54 <ThickAsThieves>	similar to jurov's bond offerings
Apr 14 08:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves that may work nicel.y
Apr 14 08:03:20 <ThickAsThieves>	i have much of it mapped out
Apr 14 08:03:28 <ThickAsThieves>	and a green light from the exchange
Apr 14 08:03:35 <ThickAsThieves>	just need to write it up
Apr 14 08:05:53 <pgp>	futures is what we really need...
Apr 14 08:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	you mean hash futures specifically ?
Apr 14 08:06:53 <pgp>	BTC futures...
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Apr 14 08:07:34 <pgp>	cash settled based on 24h avg
Apr 14 08:07:40 <mircea_popescu>	ah. yeah, i've been talking to people. i will list futures, but i will only list physically settled.
Apr 14 08:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	so there must be someone with the ability to make deliveries.
Apr 14 08:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	nah, monthly settled by actual delivery.
Apr 14 08:08:29 <mircea_popescu>	cash settled is meaningless bullshit practically indistinguishable from a scam.
Apr 14 08:08:46 <pgp>	except that means dealing with fiat
Apr 14 08:09:04 <mircea_popescu>	whoever runs the future will have to yes
Apr 14 08:09:16 <mircea_popescu>	so it's pretty much limited to the exchanges. few actuallty have the sense to know wtf this all is so...
Apr 14 08:09:33 <pgp>	are you prepared to deal with fiat?
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Apr 14 08:09:44 <mircea_popescu>	me ? what business of mine is it ?
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Apr 14 08:10:14 <pgp>	seems to me like you've created something that will evade regulation for a long time because it's strickly BTC
Apr 14 08:10:33 <kakobrekla>	fiat is a pain
Apr 14 08:10:40 <pgp>	agreed
Apr 14 08:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	pgp the idea is for someone who has the ability to make fiat settlements to run the future.
Apr 14 08:11:14 <mircea_popescu>	this would be an exchange for many practical reasons
Apr 14 08:11:16 <pgp>	i see
Apr 14 08:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	also because they'd have to marketmake it
Apr 14 08:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	which they'd be in the best position to do.
Apr 14 08:11:29 <pgp>	of course.
Apr 14 08:11:36 <mircea_popescu>	it really is a perfectly valid and probably profityable niche.
Apr 14 08:12:01 <mircea_popescu>	but then again, i participate in 20+ discussions a day, all end with "yes, this is yet another niche, just need the people with a clue to do it"
Apr 14 08:12:04 <pgp>	I wouldn't want to try it in the US...
Apr 14 08:12:19 <pgp>	CTFC would freak out
Apr 14 08:12:23 <mircea_popescu>	if you are already running an exchange you'd better have the paperwork in order already, in which case...
Apr 14 08:12:26 <mircea_popescu>	no extra burden
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Apr 14 08:13:01 <pgp>	any opinion on best foreign jurisdictions for this sort of activity?
Apr 14 08:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	anywhere you have a banking license as first choice.
Apr 14 08:13:57 <pgp>	yeah
Apr 14 08:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	i really think the best way to go is partner with licensed institutions rather than try and do bermudadollars or w/e
Apr 14 08:14:51 <pgp>	prolly
Apr 14 08:15:04 <mircea_popescu>	there's what, 150 countries in this world. each has at least five banks.
Apr 14 08:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	you tell me out of 10k banks there's not a single one you can partner with ? that seems improbable.
Apr 14 08:15:19 <pgp>	panamanian govt seems very user friendly...
Apr 14 08:15:36 <mircea_popescu>	might work.
Apr 14 08:15:54 <pgp>	been poking around there
Apr 14 08:16:20 <pgp>	gibralter also
Apr 14 08:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	isn't panama one of the select few countries of which the us kidnapped the head of state ?
Apr 14 08:16:57 <pgp>	it is...  lots of cache...
Apr 14 08:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00068692 = 10.3381 BTC [-]
Apr 14 08:18:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00068596 = 4.4244 BTC [-]
Apr 14 08:21:33 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 14 08:21:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00299004 / 0.00409999 (279245 shares, 834.95 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00349098 / 0.0058822 (1860600 shares, 6,495.33 BTC)
Apr 14 08:22:06 <error4733>	malta ;)
Apr 14 08:22:31 <error4733>	cyprus ! wait... not anymore
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Apr 14 08:22:56 <punkman1>	go exotic, Labuan
Apr 14 08:23:47 <error4733>	wtf haha labuan... just check if its exist, but yes...
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Apr 14 08:24:24 <pgp>	malta is not a bad choice, either, govt very interested in attacting new business
Apr 14 08:24:50 <error4733>	yes, all big gambling company etc
Apr 14 08:24:54 <kakobrekla>	or cyprus
Apr 14 08:24:56 <mircea_popescu>	the question is more if the govt is capable of defending new business.
Apr 14 08:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.404 = 1.616 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:25:22 <pgp>	true dat, mp
Apr 14 08:25:28 <kakobrekla>	oh i was late with that one
Apr 14 08:25:43 <error4733>	[14:22] <error4733> cyprus ! wait... not anymore
Apr 14 08:25:50 <pgp>	i would have said slovenia a couple weeks ago, but...
Apr 14 08:25:56 <kakobrekla>	yep, i suck not reading.
Apr 14 08:26:04 <mircea_popescu>	what's the problem with slovenia ?
Apr 14 08:26:10 <mircea_popescu>	just that it's insolvent ?
Apr 14 08:26:21 <kakobrekla>	he prolly cant get that cnn video out of his head
Apr 14 08:26:22 <kakobrekla>	:((
Apr 14 08:27:01 <pgp>	got the link handy...
Apr 14 08:27:14 <pgp>	don't mean to throw salt on the wound...
Apr 14 08:27:42 <mircea_popescu>	but it's neither here nor there.
Apr 14 08:27:47 <pgp>	j/k
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Apr 14 08:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	so it's insolvent. what problem of yours is that ? you bring fiat in.
Apr 14 08:28:07 <pgp>	joking
Apr 14 08:28:14 <mircea_popescu>	o
Apr 14 08:28:19 <ThickAsThieves>	hmm, there may be another btc dump imminent
Apr 14 08:28:20 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:09] <ThickAsThieves> ;;bids 75
Apr 14 08:28:21 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:09] <gribble> There are currently 39194.986 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 3382833.99001 USD in total. | Data vintage: 58.9652 seconds
Apr 14 08:28:21 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:09] <ThickAsThieves> ;;asks 175
Apr 14 08:28:21 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:09] <gribble> There are currently 48493.234 bitcoins offered at or under 175.0 USD, worth 6706271.46426 USD in total. | Data vintage: 59.7281 seconds
Apr 14 08:28:21 <ThickAsThieves>	[08:26] <ThickAsThieves> ;;asks 175
Apr 14 08:28:21 <ThickAsThieves>	[08:26] <ThickAsThieves> ;;bids 75
Apr 14 08:28:21 <ThickAsThieves>	[08:27] <gribble> There are currently 67783.678 bitcoins offered at or under 175.0 USD, worth 8961608.15255 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
Apr 14 08:28:22 <ThickAsThieves>	[08:27] <gribble> There are currently 38658.49 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 3330653.01159 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0102 seconds
Apr 14 08:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	pastebin omg./
Apr 14 08:28:33 <ThickAsThieves>	sry
Apr 14 08:29:13 <ThickAsThieves>	20000 new coins on offer
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Apr 14 08:34:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 10000
Apr 14 08:34:48 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 959726.8984 USD and would take the last price down to 91.8351 USD, resulting in an average price of 95.9727 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0006 seconds
Apr 14 08:34:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 20000
Apr 14 08:35:00 <gribble>	A market order to sell 20000 bitcoins right now would net 1845892.5144 USD and would take the last price down to 85.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 92.2946 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 11.4068 seconds
Apr 14 08:37:59 <pgp>	I must say that there is a noticeable *lack* of lag today...  all that free market making shit is gone...
Apr 14 08:38:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 66 @ 0.00179 = 0.1181 BTC [+]
Apr 14 08:38:45 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 14 08:38:57 <mircea_popescu>	what's to trade ? they who wanted btc have them, they who wanted dollars have them.
Apr 14 08:39:58 <ThickAsThieves>	would be pretty fun to watch a massive dump without lag
Apr 14 08:40:10 <pgp>	;;bids 32
Apr 14 08:40:12 <gribble>	There are currently 177622.71 bitcoins demanded at or over 32.0 USD, worth 10173943.3472 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0061 seconds
Apr 14 08:40:43 <ThickAsThieves>	winklevoss twins gonna dump us down to 32 :)
Apr 14 08:41:42 <pgp>	i wonder what price the winklevi got in at?
Apr 14 08:41:58 <ThickAsThieves>	someone told me 15
Apr 14 08:42:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i dodnt read the article myself
Apr 14 08:42:09 <ThickAsThieves>	didnt*
Apr 14 08:42:43 <pgp>	i suppose that qualifies as an "early adopter" in this environment
Apr 14 08:43:08 <pgp>	they claim to have something like 100,000 BTC, eh?
Apr 14 08:43:19 <mircea_popescu>	logically the only reason they'd say anything about it is if they bought high and it counts as a capital loss.
Apr 14 08:43:25 <ThickAsThieves>	they mustve heard about it though Silk Road press
Apr 14 08:43:48 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah they claim 1%
Apr 14 08:44:00 <pgp>	;;market --sell 100000
Apr 14 08:44:03 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7018310.8642 USD and would take the last price down to 50.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 70.1831 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0048 seconds
Apr 14 08:44:12 <ThickAsThieves>	not too bad
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Apr 14 08:44:56 <pgp>	mp: interesting interpretation...
Apr 14 08:47:01 <stupidz>	;;market --sell 100
Apr 14 08:47:03 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100 bitcoins right now would net 9972.0481 USD and would take the last price down to 99.7000 USD, resulting in an average price of 99.7205 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0003 seconds
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Apr 14 08:55:17 <error4733>	!bids 0
Apr 14 08:55:45 <kakobrekla>	its ;; for gribble
Apr 14 08:55:57 <error4733>	*first coffee
Apr 14 08:56:01 <kakobrekla>	:)
Apr 14 08:56:10 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 14 08:56:13 <gribble>	There are currently 44136852 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14770558.6823 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0094 seconds
Apr 14 08:56:33 <error4733>	;;asks 50
Apr 14 08:56:34 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.9177 seconds
Apr 14 08:56:43 <error4733>	!bids 50
Apr 14 08:56:50 <kakobrekla>	nein
Apr 14 08:56:53 <error4733>	;;bids 50
Apr 14 08:56:54 <gribble>	There are currently 109504.62 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 7521623.90265 USD in total. | Data vintage: 41.5160 seconds
Apr 14 08:56:58 <error4733>	jajajajaja
Apr 14 08:58:32 <error4733>	;;eightball do i need a second coffee ?
Apr 14 08:58:32 <gribble>	The outlook is good.
Apr 14 08:59:13 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 14 08:59:16 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231307 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 532 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 3 hours, 6 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8984122.26112 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.08748
Apr 14 09:00:05 <kakobrekla>	a few more weeks like that and 100 will be bottom
Apr 14 09:01:48 <pgp>	yes
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Apr 14 09:02:47 <pgp>	the more time we spend between 90 and 110, the better, imo
Apr 14 09:03:07 <kakobrekla>	according to my maffs this bubble was ~4x smaller than the first one
Apr 14 09:03:11 <savetheinternet>	is bitfunder.com the best site to buy shares at?
Apr 14 09:03:57 <pgp>	of course...
Apr 14 09:04:09 <pgp>	$32 to 2 is whole different ball game
Apr 14 09:05:13 <pgp>	then again, as much as I hope it stabalizes here, I think think it goes lower
Apr 14 09:05:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 14 @ 0.0018 = 0.0252 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:05:53 <kakobrekla>	well
Apr 14 09:05:56 <kakobrekla>	i hope so too
Apr 14 09:05:57 <kakobrekla>	:)
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Apr 14 09:07:12 <kakobrekla>	savetheinternet, i guess that would depends on what one is looking for
Apr 14 09:07:17 <kakobrekla>	-s
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Apr 14 09:07:57 <pgp>	btw, took a while to get down to $2...  http://i.imgur.com/LWGXliJ.png
Apr 14 09:08:48 <savetheinternet>	i dunno, i only just got into the bitcoin assets game. i bought 490 of ASICMINER shares through bitfunder. but the site looks a bit dodgy/messy, and that WeExchange thing looks pretty bad too. just wondering if there's a preferred alternative to bitfunder everyone uses? is there a mtgox of bitcoin assets?
Apr 14 09:08:51 <kakobrekla>	that is true,
Apr 14 09:08:58 <kakobrekla>	but there isnt much place to go
Apr 14 09:08:59 <kakobrekla>	http://smpake.com/etc/btc/
Apr 14 09:09:22 <pgp>	btc-tc
Apr 14 09:09:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.0018 = 0.0054 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7451 @ 0.00070797 = 5.2751 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3265 @ 0.00071053 = 2.3199 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 09:10:58 <taub>	Fact. The owner of MPEX has attempted to sell NSFW photos of herself.
Apr 14 09:11:00 <taub>	lol?
Apr 14 09:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 21 @ 0.404 = 8.484 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:11:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.405 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:11:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.44 = 1.76 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:11:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:11:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:11:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 115 @ 0.45 = 51.75 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:11:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.45 = 22.5 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:11:13 <kakobrekla>	block halving bottom was 0.2 usd per 100mhash
Apr 14 09:11:20 <kakobrekla>	and it quickly picked up from there
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Apr 14 09:11:46 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 14 09:11:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.80001, Best ask: 101.96999, Bid-ask spread: 0.16998, Last trade: 101.80001, 24 hour volume: 181684.56390831, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 116.89000, 24 hour vwap: 101.60381
Apr 14 09:11:51 <kakobrekla>	some historical resistance shows at 0.6
Apr 14 09:12:44 <pgp>	interesting
Apr 14 09:12:48 <kakobrekla>	so if we are using hash power to normalize this a bit
Apr 14 09:12:53 <kakobrekla>	absolute bottom would be 50
Apr 14 09:13:05 <kakobrekla>	which was accually hit
Apr 14 09:13:51 <kakobrekla>	but this is using weighted price
Apr 14 09:14:18 <pgp>	interesting, but maybe I'm missing something - do you believe that there is a causal link here?
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Apr 14 09:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	taub the fact department is pretty thin
Apr 14 09:16:06 <kakobrekla>	well difficulty normally follows price
Apr 14 09:16:06 <mircea_popescu>	savetheinternet mpex does about 80% of bitcoin denominated financials trade.
Apr 14 09:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	pgp mining at the very least has the impact that when btc goes under mining cost miners move from selling to buying.
Apr 14 09:17:06 <kakobrekla>	but i think this should be taken into account in a way, i think its helpful a bit, navigating in this movements
Apr 14 09:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	this switch would by far dominate any functioning market.
Apr 14 09:17:21 <mircea_popescu>	is btc market functional ? anyone's guess.
Apr 14 09:17:38 <pgp>	i see
Apr 14 09:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:18:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.52 = 2.08 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:18:07 <pgp>	bitcoin really is its own beast, eh?
Apr 14 09:18:14 <kakobrekla>	yea
Apr 14 09:18:19 <kakobrekla>	nothing like it
Apr 14 09:18:42 <kakobrekla>	(waiting for goat to scream: LTC!!!)
Apr 14 09:18:58 <pgp>	lol
Apr 14 09:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:20:09 *	merx_ is now known as merx
Apr 14 09:20:41 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136588457332.jpg
Apr 14 09:20:52 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 14 09:21:09 <error4733>	it's sunday, i'm not at work ! i can open a MP link...
Apr 14 09:21:33 <error4733>	2 times you screw me !
Apr 14 09:22:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 14 09:22:11 <kakobrekla>	romania is in the red?
Apr 14 09:22:17 <mircea_popescu>	great place to be.
Apr 14 09:22:32 <error4733>	Open a link then close the window with a quick look behind me just to check if a workmate didnt see your nasty link
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Apr 14 09:22:47 <mircea_popescu>	it's only nasty if you're not doing it.
Apr 14 09:23:15 <error4733>	? naked on a quad
Apr 14 09:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	here, just for error4733, a gif of my workplace http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13606663711.gif
Apr 14 09:24:01 <error4733>	hehe i'm green on the map ! i knew it ! never listen a girl
Apr 14 09:24:53 <ThickAsThieves>	portugal is oddly absent
Apr 14 09:25:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 14 09:25:30 <error4733>	to much fur
Apr 14 09:25:37 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
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Apr 14 09:26:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.009999 = 0.07 BTC [-]
Apr 14 09:27:25 <ThickAsThieves>	where's the chart for vagina depth?
Apr 14 09:27:33 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 14 09:28:04 <pgp>	and the subsequently overlay for delta values...  that's the REAL data
Apr 14 09:29:25 <mircea_popescu>	believe it or not i actually have an article about this.
Apr 14 09:29:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:29:52 <taub>	why does anyone think mp is a girl?
Apr 14 09:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/statistica-matematica-cu-numere/ it's in romanian, but the numbers you can get.
Apr 14 09:30:18 <mircea_popescu>	~120 mn kms of unused cunt in the world because of the delta.
Apr 14 09:30:24 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, if there is something you DON'T hace an article about, you're probably writing it now
Apr 14 09:30:35 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves just as soon as i figure it out yeah.
Apr 14 09:30:40 <taub>	france is high bc they ahve lots of blacks there
Apr 14 09:30:52 <mircea_popescu>	france always cheats.
Apr 14 09:31:24 <ThickAsThieves>	"As average vagina has a depth of 18 inches also result there globally about 120 million kilometers from unused pussy (taking round female population as 4 billion)."
Apr 14 09:31:31 <ThickAsThieves>	priceless
Apr 14 09:31:49 <pgp>	lol
Apr 14 09:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	actually,
Apr 14 09:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	Adaugind toate astea rezulta ca pizda medie parcurge 10.8 metri per futai, in medieii. Cum un an are 12 luni rezulta ca intr-o viata (de 70 de ani) pizda medie parcurge-n pula 9.07 kilometri in decursul vietii ei. Cum ejacularea medie are cam doi mililitri rezulta ca pizda medie scoate o economie de 18.5 litri la suta de kmiii ceea ce-i de altfel destul de ineficient. Pe de alta parte emisiile nu polueaza (ci sunt chia
Apr 14 09:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	r opusul polutiei).
Apr 14 09:32:05 <mircea_popescu>	which says
Apr 14 09:32:33 <mircea_popescu>	"adding it all up, the average cunny rides about 10.8 meters per fucking. since a year is 12 months long it comes to a lifetime's worth of riding being about 9.07kms.
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Apr 14 09:33:12 <mircea_popescu>	since the average cum is ~2ml, the average cunt runs on 18.5 liters / 100km efficiency, which isn't so very great. on the other hand emission doesn't pollute, being the exact opposite of pollution.
Apr 14 09:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	there be great power in statistex
Apr 14 09:34:37 <taub>	nasty...
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Apr 14 09:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	aww
Apr 14 09:38:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.839 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:40:26 <deadweasel>	https://coinbr.com/ref?c=294TNRz1oP
Apr 14 09:40:30 <deadweasel>	coinbr is good too.
Apr 14 09:40:47 <deadweasel>	oops, 8 pages in scrollback
Apr 14 09:40:53 <deadweasel>	good morning all!
Apr 14 09:41:17 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 14 09:41:22 <kakobrekla>	heya
Apr 14 09:41:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol hi
Apr 14 09:42:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17235 @ 0.00071053 = 12.246 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:42:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00071481 = 9.8286 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:42:46 <deadweasel>	wow, I now know what the average cunt runs on.  thanks mp.
Apr 14 09:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150 @ 0.00071749 = 0.1076 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:42:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4504 @ 0.00071817 = 3.2346 BTC [+]
Apr 14 09:43:04 <deadweasel>	so should be riding my gf to work?
Apr 14 09:43:17 <kakobrekla>	on your dick yea
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Apr 14 09:43:38 <mircea_popescu>	either riding her to work or work on riding her works.
Apr 14 09:45:03 <deadweasel>	excellent. mileage may vary.
Apr 14 09:46:41 <Diablo-D3>	http://qz.com/74137/six-reasons-why-chinese-people-will-drive-the-next-bull-market-in-bitcoin/
Apr 14 09:58:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 80000 @ 0.00175 = 140 BTC [-]
Apr 14 09:59:18 <ThickAsThieves>	lotsa bitbet
Apr 14 10:01:11 <mircea_popescu>	o hey
Apr 14 10:01:15 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Apr 14 10:01:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00175 / 0.00175 / 0.00175 (80000 shares, 14.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00079521 / 0.00173463 / 0.00199999 (110792 shares, 192.18 BTC), 30D: 0.00050015 / 0.00181392 / 0.00201401 (187840 shares, 340.73 BTC)
Apr 14 10:01:39 <mircea_popescu>	um
Apr 14 10:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap s.bbet
Apr 14 10:02:06 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: S.BBET 1 day: average: 0.00175 high: 0.00175 low: 0.00175 volume: 80000 btc: 140.0 7 day: average: 0.00173464 high: 0.00199999 low: 0.00079521 volume: 110792 btc: 192.18398032 30 day: average: 0.00181392 high: 0.00201401 low: 0.00050015 volume: 187840 btc: 340.72766482
Apr 14 10:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ^ bug in assbot ?!
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Apr 14 10:03:33 <mircea_popescu>	Rio Tinto’s Kennecott mine in Utah- the US’ 2nd largest silver mine and world’s largest copper mine has just suffered a massive landslide which will likely shut down production at the mine for years as upwards of 1 billion tons of dirt and ore have collapsed into the basin.
Apr 14 10:04:35 <ThickAsThieves>	usagi wins
Apr 14 10:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	thats like 4mn oz of silver a year
Apr 14 10:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.flickr.com/photos/riotinto-kennecottutahcopper/8644405476/sizes/z/in/photostream/
Apr 14 10:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	pretty cool pix
Apr 14 10:07:16 <ThickAsThieves>	wow that is cool
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Apr 14 10:11:36 <error4733>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSu5Yyc1bEM
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Apr 14 10:11:48 <error4733>	The only working product in this video is the laser engraver...?
Apr 14 10:11:56 <error4733>	"    "
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Apr 14 10:17:31 <ThickAsThieves>	vid looks like it was made in 1995
Apr 14 10:19:12 <pgp>	i think that the last 12 hours has been the first period of time since bitcoin started to dive that we haven't had any significant lag...
Apr 14 10:19:31 <pgp>	hooray for fee reinstatement!
Apr 14 10:20:04 <ThickAsThieves>	it seemed to be fixed before the fees
Apr 14 10:20:22 <pgp>	?
Apr 14 10:20:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i recall trading briskly for an hour or so and then being like wtf, fees?
Apr 14 10:20:53 <pgp>	http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
Apr 14 10:21:27 <error4733>	they crash the market to cover news servers cost :)
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Apr 14 10:21:38 <pgp>	lol
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Apr 14 10:22:03 <pgp>	the real improvement will come on apr 17th when the get rid of unfunded orders..
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Apr 14 10:22:20 <taub>	yep i dont know why they take so long to do that
Apr 14 10:22:39 <ThickAsThieves>	the feature will be missed
Apr 14 10:22:44 <error4733>	give time to ppl to found account
Apr 14 10:23:08 <ThickAsThieves>	would be nice to have a triggered order feature
Apr 14 10:23:09 <pgp>	it is interesting to note, though, that if they had a scaleable matching engine, lower fees would definately result in more volume...
Apr 14 10:23:53 <taub>	lots of competition emerging, i dont think mtgox will be really around after 2013
Apr 14 10:24:01 <taub>	around, but not #1
Apr 14 10:24:07 <pgp>	RIP
Apr 14 10:24:50 <pgp>	taub - what is the most credible solution/future competition you've heard about
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Apr 14 10:26:08 <pgp>	'cuz although I see more competitors coming to the table, I haven't heard of anything that compelling...
Apr 14 10:26:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09611 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 10:26:42 <error4733>	pgp http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c7v6z/buttercoin_open_source_highperformance_bitcoin/
Apr 14 10:27:49 <taub>	yea  buttercoin, kraken, whatever max keiser is cooking up
Apr 14 10:28:08 <taub>	that exchange franchising business
Apr 14 10:28:14 <taub>	where you can rent software
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Apr 14 10:29:11 <JWU42>	didn't rg "run" BitVPS and was responsible for the listing on MPeX?
Apr 14 10:30:27 <pgp>	yeah - ok - nothing I haven't heard about...  none of these approaches seem very convincing to me...
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Apr 14 10:35:56 <b0n1>	is there someone who runs a bot on bitcoin-central?
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Apr 14 10:36:33 <b0n1>	i cant manage the oauth2 verification, even if i run the exact same code that is in their example
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Apr 14 10:39:28 <KRS1>	what docs u looking at
Apr 14 10:43:26 <error4733>	bitcoin-central ? try bitcoinica !
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Apr 14 10:47:33 <Diablo-D3>	error4733: hurr
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Apr 14 10:54:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 14 10:54:26 <gribble>	63526.5311894
Apr 14 10:55:10 <ThickAsThieves>	5000 gone in a week
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Apr 14 10:58:07 <EskimoBob>	pgp: mtgoxed crew calls it "success" not "lag" or some other ugly word a like :)
Apr 14 10:58:18 <EskimoBob>	here: https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130411.html
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Apr 14 10:59:06 <EskimoBob>	"20,000 new accounts created each day" and they think those are all for real and not opened by some asshole and his bot armada
Apr 14 11:00:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0135 = 0.0675 BTC [-]
Apr 14 11:01:40 <EskimoBob>	and what happens, when bots start connecting to those new accounts and start sending API calls :)
Apr 14 11:01:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.014 = 0.07 BTC [+]
Apr 14 11:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.441 BTC [-]
Apr 14 11:05:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [+]
Apr 14 11:06:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.1019 = 0.6114 BTC [+]
Apr 14 11:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [+]
Apr 14 11:08:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+]
Apr 14 11:08:38 <error4733>	same % of new account provide paper for verifiaction, that what they say when some ppl ask the same question as you !
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Apr 14 11:10:30 <TheMonarchTx>	do accounts need to be verified before they can send API calls?
Apr 14 11:10:44 <TheMonarchTx>	or do you only need to verify to withdraw funds?
Apr 14 11:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [+]
Apr 14 11:12:47 <b0n1>	KRS1, i look at the official API doc from the homepage of bitcoin central
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Apr 14 11:13:18 <b0n1>	https://github.com/paytunia/api-documentation
Apr 14 11:13:30 <error4733>	dunno, but speculate on mtgox improvement before they happen is just... useless!?
Apr 14 11:13:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8433 BTC [+]
Apr 14 11:13:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.8433 = 4.2165 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 11:16:28 <b0n1>	KRS1,  directly under Full usage example i used the ruby gem code
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Apr 14 11:17:31 <b0n1>	it works all find at first and get the url for the authorization code, on token.get i get an empty boday
Apr 14 11:17:33 <b0n1>	body
Apr 14 11:19:06 <error4733>	my guess is they change a lot last week
Apr 14 11:19:47 <error4733>	with the secuity breach, maybe githud is not updated yet
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Apr 14 11:20:44 <b0n1>	hm k, but isnt someone here running a bot on bitcoin central?
Apr 14 11:22:34 <KRS1>	ok hmm
Apr 14 11:23:00 <KRS1>	do u have the gems u need
Apr 14 11:23:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 50 @ 0.2 = 10 BTC [+]
Apr 14 11:24:27 <b0n1>	i think so
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Apr 14 11:25:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Apr 14 11:25:10 <b0n1>	or which one do you mean?
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Apr 14 11:30:52 <b0n1>	KRS1, ?
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Apr 14 11:38:59 <error4733>	;;eightball can we trust bitcoin-central ?
Apr 14 11:38:59 <gribble>	One would be wise to think so.
Apr 14 11:39:37 <b0n1>	;;nethash
Apr 14 11:39:38 <gribble>	63526.5311894
Apr 14 11:41:17 <b0n1>	;;eightball can we trust mtgox ?
Apr 14 11:41:17 <gribble>	No clue.
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Apr 14 11:48:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00070057 = 14.1865 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 11:53:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 12:04:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 12:06:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00070585 = 3.494 BTC [+]
Apr 14 12:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00071043 = 5.8966 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 12:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.441 = 0.882 BTC [-]
Apr 14 12:22:21 <thestringpuller>	;;seen ThickAsThieves
Apr 14 12:22:21 <gribble>	ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 27 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> 5000 gone in a week
Apr 14 12:22:26 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 14 12:22:26 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 0 hours, 39 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 14 12:22:43 <thestringpuller>	ThickAsThieves: why does usagi win?
Apr 14 12:23:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9854 @ 0.00071437 = 7.0394 BTC [+]
Apr 14 12:23:05 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 14 12:23:08 <gribble>	There are currently 44183451 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14395071.0479 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0215 seconds
Apr 14 12:23:14 <ThickAsThieves>	because he deals in silver
Apr 14 12:23:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Apr 14 12:23:25 <ThickAsThieves>	and now there is way less getting mined
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Apr 14 12:23:58 <ThickAsThieves>	Bugpowder whatchoo think about current price
Apr 14 12:24:16 <Bugpowder>	It's 100
Apr 14 12:24:20 <Bugpowder>	as expected
Apr 14 12:24:25 <error4733>	i quote the 30$ pronostic
Apr 14 12:24:33 <error4733>	;)
Apr 14 12:24:36 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm thinking a rally tonight and tomorrow
Apr 14 12:24:37 <Bugpowder>	quote the $100 prognositc
Apr 14 12:24:50 <Bugpowder>	30 is a 3 month price target
Apr 14 12:25:05 <Bugpowder>	wobble around 100, then a slow fade over the next 2 months
Apr 14 12:25:06 <ThickAsThieves>	last night someone was maintaining a 7k btc floor for a long time
Apr 14 12:25:15 <ThickAsThieves>	at 100
Apr 14 12:25:22 <error4733>	so you short all your btc ?
Apr 14 12:25:28 <Bugpowder>	nope
Apr 14 12:25:30 <error4733>	the 30% remaning
Apr 14 12:25:32 <Bugpowder>	I cashed 70%
Apr 14 12:25:36 <Bugpowder>	the 30% I hold
Apr 14 12:25:54 <Bugpowder>	I mean, my deep analysis is based on lining up the last bubble chart to this one
Apr 14 12:25:58 <Bugpowder>	so...
Apr 14 12:26:05 <error4733>	yes i saw this pic...
Apr 14 12:26:05 <Bugpowder>	not a lot of confidence there :)
Apr 14 12:26:13 <error4733>	bearish pic
Apr 14 12:26:39 <Bugpowder>	I don't really have a great idea of where its going, but the past bubble pattern has me worried
Apr 14 12:26:40 <error4733>	how can u compar 2 different event ?
Apr 14 12:26:54 <Bugpowder>	they were both bubbles
Apr 14 12:26:54 <error4733>	same crash but totally different context
Apr 14 12:27:08 <Bugpowder>	yes but similar patterns happen all the time
Apr 14 12:27:17 <Bugpowder>	the ripple following a sharp move
Apr 14 12:27:19 <Bugpowder>	for example
Apr 14 12:27:23 <Bugpowder>	happens every time
Apr 14 12:27:33 <Bugpowder>	I don't know where it is going
Apr 14 12:28:05 <Bugpowder>	My feeling is that the EV on the 3 month timescale, if you were long BTC at this price, is negative
Apr 14 12:28:12 <Bugpowder>	on the 3 year timescale, positive
Apr 14 12:28:44 <b0n1>	where can i short btcs?
Apr 14 12:28:46 <Bugpowder>	I have bids starting at 52 and going down to 13.
Apr 14 12:29:01 <Bugpowder>	borrow some btc from bakewelll
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Apr 14 12:29:48 <error4733>	bakewell haha, any news ? didn't follow
Apr 14 12:30:13 <error4733>	he'll be happy to read you
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Apr 14 12:30:21 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: the times change though. 100 could be the actual price
Apr 14 12:30:25 <Bugpowder>	sure
Apr 14 12:30:28 <thestringpuller>	anything below could be cheap coins
Apr 14 12:30:34 <Bugpowder>	could be
Apr 14 12:30:41 <thestringpuller>	If someone competent arrives to the game the price will rise again
Apr 14 12:30:43 <error4733>	that my mojo : any coin under 100 its cheap !
Apr 14 12:30:44 <Bugpowder>	I think it will get cheaper though
Apr 14 12:30:53 <Bugpowder>	you want to buy the bottom
Apr 14 12:30:57 <Bugpowder>	not halfway down
Apr 14 12:31:14 <thestringpuller>	Yea but what if that never occurs because someone arrives to the game.
Apr 14 12:31:18 <thestringpuller>	Sets up shop like a mobster.
Apr 14 12:31:33 <Bugpowder>	then you miss out
Apr 14 12:31:37 <thestringpuller>	If I were a hedgefund manager and saw all this news I would rush to btc world due to lack of regulation.
Apr 14 12:31:45 <Bugpowder>	hence I'm keeping 30% in btc
Apr 14 12:32:15 <Bugpowder>	Making money was easy on the way up the bubble
Apr 14 12:32:21 <Bugpowder>	now its going to get tougher for a while
Apr 14 12:33:22 <b0n1>	isnt bakewell scam?
Apr 14 12:33:25 <error4733>	time will say ;) we just need a good news, that it
Apr 14 12:33:46 <error4733>	short 600btc @35$ is a scam ? :D
Apr 14 12:34:39 <Bugpowder>	yes bake well scammed
Apr 14 12:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4480 @ 0.00071817 = 3.2174 BTC [+]
Apr 14 12:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8974 @ 0.00072046 = 6.4654 BTC [+]
Apr 14 12:35:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1596 @ 0.0007217 = 1.1518 BTC [+]
Apr 14 12:35:51 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: why do you think MPOE stock is skyrocketing today?
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Apr 14 12:36:21 <Bugpowder>	mp turned the S.MPOE buying bot back on ;-)
Apr 14 12:36:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 549 @ 0.00071437 = 0.3922 BTC [-]
Apr 14 12:36:43 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 14 12:36:49 <Bugpowder>	is it skyrocketing?
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Apr 14 12:41:10 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Apr 14 12:41:12 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068596 / 0.00070525 / 0.000735 (444127 shares, 313.22 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069453 / 0.000735 (2621860 shares, 1,820.98 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068957 / 0.00077505 (10865175 shares, 7,492.41 BTC)
Apr 14 12:41:16 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: it crashed after March no?
Apr 14 12:41:31 <Bugpowder>	.006
Apr 14 12:41:45 <Bugpowder>	.0006
Apr 14 12:42:04 <thestringpuller>	yea that was pretty low
Apr 14 12:42:24 <thestringpuller>	do you think bondholders are going to keep their money this time lol?
Apr 14 12:42:24 <Bugpowder>	usually a good idea to buy at .0006
Apr 14 12:42:27 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder, speaking of bubble, imho this one was 4times smaller
Apr 14 12:42:38 <thestringpuller>	than 2011?
Apr 14 12:42:44 <kakobrekla>	yes
Apr 14 12:42:51 <Bugpowder>	how so?
Apr 14 12:42:54 <thestringpuller>	2011 was 30 -> 5
Apr 14 12:42:55 <Bugpowder>	what is the baseline
Apr 14 12:43:03 <kakobrekla>	http://smpake.com/etc/btc/
Apr 14 12:43:05 <thestringpuller>	so its about 6 times lostt in value
Apr 14 12:43:06 <Bugpowder>	2011 was 33->2
Apr 14 12:43:22 <Bugpowder>	93% loss
Apr 14 12:43:44 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 266/33*2
Apr 14 12:43:44 <gribble>	16.1212121212
Apr 14 12:43:49 <kakobrekla>	and that chart uses weighted daily price
Apr 14 12:43:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [+]
Apr 14 12:44:12 <thestringpuller>	What's the deal with ASICMINER did they announce new divs?
Apr 14 12:44:21 <thestringpuller>	I feel so behind in asset world
Apr 14 12:44:25 <kakobrekla>	at the current diff the bottom would be 50 (0.2 mhash per 100 around)
Apr 14 12:45:07 <ThickAsThieves>	they previewed their new usb miner
Apr 14 12:45:10 <thestringpuller>	could you rephrase kakobrekla ?
Apr 14 12:45:37 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Apr 14 12:45:40 <kakobrekla>	whats not clear?
Apr 14 12:45:49 <thestringpuller>	are you saying miners need 50usd / coin?
Apr 14 12:45:51 <Bugpowder>	well I would say, 16.1212 is the bottom
Apr 14 12:45:52 <thestringpuller>	to operate?
Apr 14 12:46:12 <Bugpowder>	which is basically the price when the bubble started to inflate
Apr 14 12:46:36 <kakobrekla>	im saying so far in these years
Apr 14 12:46:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [+]
Apr 14 12:46:41 <kakobrekla>	0.2 was the bottom support
Apr 14 12:46:53 <kakobrekla>	which i expect to slowly getting lower since asic
Apr 14 12:46:57 <kakobrekla>	but that means half a year or so
Apr 14 12:47:24 <kakobrekla>	even with the block reward halving
Apr 14 12:47:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [+]
Apr 14 12:47:40 <kakobrekla>	bottom was 0.2 and it picked up from there rather quickly
Apr 14 12:48:43 <kakobrekla>	look we are all speculating here
Apr 14 12:48:45 <kakobrekla>	mostly
Apr 14 12:49:06 <kakobrekla>	but imho this should be concireder
Apr 14 12:49:06 <kakobrekla>	d
Apr 14 12:50:20 <unbalanced_>	Bug, re your ideas for the fiat portfolio yesterday, have you considered sticking to options on other asset classes rather than EFTs / funds / stocks? E.g. 80-90% treasuries 10%-20% at risk in 10-40 small longshot speculations per year?
Apr 14 12:50:23 <Bugpowder>	So if diff doubles...
Apr 14 12:50:30 <unbalanced_>	Taleb's barbell risk strategy
Apr 14 12:50:39 <Bugpowder>	it's an interesting idea
Apr 14 12:50:53 <Bugpowder>	but I'm pretty vanilla in my investments outside of bitcoin
Apr 14 12:51:16 <Bugpowder>	also treasuries are pretty dangerous right now
Apr 14 12:51:20 <unbalanced_>	It has the advantage of avoiding the fact that in a bear market / crisis, all asset classes are suddenly highly correlated in a rush to liquidity.
Apr 14 12:51:54 <unbalanced_>	Yes I wouldn't touch 'em but here in Canada I use vanilla "high interest" savings accounts or money market funds for that portion.
Apr 14 12:52:11 <Bugpowder>	the danger is interest rate risk
Apr 14 12:52:29 <Bugpowder>	if you are doing 2 year T Bills or shorter term, very little risk
Apr 14 12:52:37 <Bugpowder>	but also, very little interest rate
Apr 14 12:53:24 <unbalanced_>	If you mean your return on 80% of your portfolio may not keep up with inflation, my position on that is: who cares? The longshot options in the other 10-20%, the at risk portion of the portfolio, are what will provide portfolio return.
Apr 14 12:53:58 <Bugpowder>	I should probably read that book
Apr 14 12:54:07 <Bugpowder>	what are the long shots though?
Apr 14 12:54:14 <unbalanced_>	Max downdraft in any one year, no matter what happens, is the amount in your Risk On slice, if every one of the 40 positions you take turns out to lose 100%.
Apr 14 12:54:24 <unbalanced_>	Out of the money options. Black Swans.
Apr 14 12:55:24 <unbalanced_>	E.g. Apple in January, Amazon shortly after, that MLM company Ackman and Icahn are fighting over
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Apr 14 12:56:35 <unbalanced_>	I'm not a big believer in Modern Portfolio Theory after 2008.
Apr 14 12:57:13 <unbalanced_>	I was in this strategy then and the portfolio was horizontal when all the world was crashing around us.
Apr 14 12:57:48 <Diablo-D3>	nothing trumps common sense
Apr 14 12:57:57 <Diablo-D3>	never invest in things you dont understand
Apr 14 12:58:35 <Bugpowder>	Here is my target allocations
Apr 14 12:58:36 <Bugpowder>	http://imgur.com/ZBAoEdq
Apr 14 12:58:44 <Bugpowder>	I don't try picking any stocks
Apr 14 12:59:07 <unbalanced_>	Herbalife, that's the one I was thinking of: http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=HLF ... incredible volatility as the giants duked it out and tried to screw each other over.
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Apr 14 12:59:40 <unbalanced_>	Right, but with options you take synthetic positions, e.g. straddles and strangles. You're already doing it here.
Apr 14 13:00:17 <Bugpowder>	I did a fair amount of options trading in 0708
Apr 14 13:00:19 <unbalanced_>	Pick a company that could have drama in the next 90 days: earnings at risk, ridiculously overvalued or undervalued.
Apr 14 13:00:20 <Bugpowder>	was exciting
Apr 14 13:00:41 <Bugpowder>	yeah but after earnings the volatility premium suddenly drops
Apr 14 13:00:43 <Bugpowder>	makes it tough
Apr 14 13:01:01 <Bugpowder>	I had huge account swings with options trading
Apr 14 13:01:08 <Bugpowder>	finally blew the account up
Apr 14 13:01:15 <unbalanced_>	Yes you have to assume you will lose 100% on a trade if you are wrong and restrict your bet size accordingly.
Apr 14 13:01:16 <Bugpowder>	So I quit
Apr 14 13:01:24 <Bugpowder>	and now I just do vanilla
Apr 14 13:01:36 <Bugpowder>	and I'm averaging a 7.5% return
Apr 14 13:01:49 <Bugpowder>	over the last 5 years
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Apr 14 13:01:56 <Bugpowder>	not spectaular but not bad.
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Apr 14 13:02:15 <unbalanced_>	Change that chart to CROX weekly and check out 2011: it was priced on earnings expectations that would have meant that every shoe sold in the US would be a Croc for the next N years. Bubble, had to pop.
Apr 14 13:02:41 <unbalanced_>	Buy a few puts with a long enough time horizon to be right, and then wait.
Apr 14 13:02:53 <Bugpowder>	getting the timing is very tough
Apr 14 13:03:13 <unbalanced_>	Agreed... I've been early and I've been late.
Apr 14 13:04:03 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: never try to time the market
Apr 14 13:04:28 <unbalanced_>	Taleb says it's like a thousand little paper cuts. A bunch of little ouches but you never "blow up" and lose too much.
Apr 14 13:05:12 <Bugpowder>	I think its a very reasonable strat
Apr 14 13:05:18 <Bugpowder>	more timeconsuming though
Apr 14 13:05:47 <Bugpowder>	I just fire and forget, trying to keep my target distributions correct without selling
Apr 14 13:05:55 <unbalanced_>	I tend to put on one new trade a month when a situation comes to light. Some have a 1-year time horizon, some are 1-mo.
Apr 14 13:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00070057 = 3.1175 BTC [-]
Apr 14 13:05:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00069248 = 5.1244 BTC [-]
Apr 14 13:05:59 <Bugpowder>	and update the targets every 3-5 years
Apr 14 13:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00068596 = 1.1318 BTC [-]
Apr 14 13:06:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.41 = 0.82 BTC [+]
Apr 14 13:06:53 <unbalanced_>	With Herbalife I missed it by a day. Formulated a strategy one night, was eating breakfast the next AM and the situation happened pre-market.
Apr 14 13:07:08 <unbalanced_>	I almost spit out my Cheerios.
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Apr 14 13:07:44 <unbalanced_>	I did a write up, I'll have to get a blog up and post it.
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Apr 14 13:08:23 <unbalanced_>	I better get back to programming. Got to make a living or I'll have nothing to trade with!
Apr 14 13:09:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00328066 = 0.8202 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 13:15:16 <Bugpowder>	COOL!
Apr 14 13:15:32 <Bugpowder>	mtgox counted all my trades during the 0 fee time towards my 30day volume
Apr 14 13:16:18 <taub>	this lack of volatility is boring
Apr 14 13:16:33 <error4733>	its a shame i'll send a ticket to support now
Apr 14 13:16:36 <taub>	are you at the max now bug?
Apr 14 13:16:37 <Bugpowder>	0.4% :)
Apr 14 13:16:53 <taub>	2k for me
Apr 14 13:16:55 <taub>	0.34
Apr 14 13:16:57 <Bugpowder>	I should have made some more trades!
Apr 14 13:17:00 <taub>	0.43
Apr 14 13:17:12 <Bugpowder>	I could have made 0.3
Apr 14 13:17:49 <taub>	wish they would allow like special deals for 0%...
Apr 14 13:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2926 @ 0.00328066 = 9.5992 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 13:28:31 <Bugpowder>	nice
Apr 14 13:28:39 <Bugpowder>	bitcoinity added historical spread
Apr 14 13:28:44 <Bugpowder>	on the plot
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Apr 14 13:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 13:37:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00070089 = 7.9901 BTC [+]
Apr 14 13:39:36 <deadweasel>	nice!
Apr 14 13:40:12 <deadweasel>	i'm not sure how to read the green and red on the top graph
Apr 14 13:40:25 <deadweasel>	hell, or even the bottom.  :/
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Apr 14 13:44:17 <error4733>	green was the buying price  red the selling price  yellow ligne is average   bottom is wall with all btc asked (green) or open for sale ((rede)
Apr 14 13:45:01 <BitHub>	so the aim of this game is buy low and sell high to the next lot of buyers and give yourself a golden parachute all the way down to 50?
Apr 14 13:45:14 <deadweasel>	error, awesome, thank you!
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Apr 14 13:45:39 <deadweasel>	BitHub: sounds like a good game.
Apr 14 13:45:49 <BitHub>	yep
Apr 14 13:46:56 <error4733>	Do you miss the top ? ;)
Apr 14 13:47:03 <BitHub>	?
Apr 14 13:47:15 <BitHub>	i'm pushing for single digi's
Apr 14 13:48:06 <deadweasel>	http://bitcoin.speedstats.org/   this might be helpful when you have to move btc quickly...
Apr 14 13:48:16 <BitHub>	i stopped buying when it went over 100 beause it was just a scam
Apr 14 13:48:32 <error4733>	i burn a candle every night on my satoshi's temple for this too
Apr 14 13:48:33 <deadweasel>	ya, i stopped at 62
Apr 14 13:48:55 <BitHub>	liking this 100 tho
Apr 14 13:49:34 <deadweasel>	i expect it to drop over the next couple of weeks... but it's possible half of that incoming capital was stopped by the goxfail.  maybe they buy in next few weeks?
Apr 14 13:50:21 <BitHub>	what assets are you feeling?
Apr 14 13:50:36 <BitHub>	i only like asicminer
Apr 14 13:50:55 <error4733>	i'm not sur about the new 150000 account open in mtgox since 2013, if they bought 1btc each :troll:
Apr 14 13:51:19 <deadweasel>	they couldn't verify that many in 3 months if their lives depended on it.
Apr 14 13:51:20 <damientrog>	I don't understand the Asicminer hype, sure the dividends are high, but it will devaluate very quickly
Apr 14 13:51:24 <BitHub>	trying to scout some ipo's but jeeez seems like every asset popping up lately is just scammy
Apr 14 13:51:28 <deadweasel>	yeah, it's overpriced.
Apr 14 13:51:52 <deadweasel>	stick with the winners, sdice rallied a bit...  where is it now?
Apr 14 13:52:01 <deadweasel>	not that sdice is a winner... lol.
Apr 14 13:52:05 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice is still up
Apr 14 13:52:09 <ThickAsThieves>	going up more too
Apr 14 13:52:12 <BitHub>	heh yeah i was going to say
Apr 14 13:52:35 <error4733>	with ASCM you bought also next gen of asci
Apr 14 13:53:08 <damientrog>	I thought you only bought shares into that 1 machine
Apr 14 13:53:09 <BitHub>	have you noticed alot of miners trying to offload their asic preorders lately?
Apr 14 13:53:11 <error4733>	do u see this cute usb dongle ?
Apr 14 13:53:27 <damientrog>	not in the company
Apr 14 13:53:36 <BitHub>	error4733 i want to order 100 :P
Apr 14 13:53:40 <error4733>	same
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Apr 14 13:53:47 <error4733>	TAKE MY MONEY was my first react
Apr 14 13:53:55 <ThickAsThieves>	with AM you buy Friedcat, arguably the most motivated btc business manager for a public company
Apr 14 13:53:55 <BitHub>	SHUT UP AND TAKE MY BITCOIN
Apr 14 13:54:17 <BitHub>	and the only company that doesn't seem to be a complete scam
Apr 14 13:54:21 <error4733>	damien : no you bought a part of any hash ASCM put in network
Apr 14 13:54:27 <BitHub>	which is very refreshing
Apr 14 13:54:38 <error4733>	they work already on next gen
Apr 14 13:54:56 <BitHub>	error might wait on their bigboy instead of usd thingy's
Apr 14 13:55:02 <ThickAsThieves>	keep in mind that if the gloom and doom everyone is predicting happens
Apr 14 13:55:09 <ThickAsThieves>	stock values will skyrocket
Apr 14 13:55:28 <deadweasel>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE5WQLMwHHk  <---- lame but hilarious remake of the annoyed goat/sheep/antelope thing.
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Apr 14 13:55:46 <BitHub>	heh
Apr 14 13:55:51 <damientrog>	ah, must've misread that somewhere
Apr 14 13:55:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8499 BTC [-]
Apr 14 13:55:54 <BitHub>	anyone selling any via friendcat?
Apr 14 13:56:02 <BitHub>	not a pt
Apr 14 13:56:03 <error4733>	double check, maybe it's me
Apr 14 13:56:18 <damientrog>	I'm double checking, but can't find that clause anymore
Apr 14 13:57:02 <mircea_popescu>	b0n1 probably should chat davout up.
Apr 14 13:57:07 <BitHub>	deadweasel someone needs to do some subs of that german kid raging at his computer
Apr 14 13:57:11 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Apr 14 13:57:15 <gribble>	Time since last block: 13 minutes and 43 seconds
Apr 14 13:57:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 14 13:57:21 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 8961787.72453 based on data since last change | 8940745.26815 based on data for last three days
Apr 14 13:57:23 <deadweasel>	i haven't seen that one.
Apr 14 13:57:41 <damientrog>	I must be mistaken, seems like a good deal then
Apr 14 13:57:54 <deadweasel>	http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/09/coinsetter-lands-500k-from-secondmarket-founder-others-to-help-bring-leverage-shorting-to-bitcoin-trade/
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Apr 14 13:57:57 <deadweasel>	coinsetter?
Apr 14 13:58:05 <error4733>	wait, i look for a link ;)
Apr 14 13:58:07 <BitHub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2QxLpS3aIM
Apr 14 13:58:21 <BitHub>	i was raging hard like that at one point
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Apr 14 13:59:08 <BitHub>	i might put something together
Apr 14 13:59:12 <BitHub>	fire up teh old avid
Apr 14 13:59:43 <BitHub>	loling hard just thinking about it
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Apr 14 14:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel the hype machine. i
Apr 14 14:00:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8214 BTC [-]
Apr 14 14:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	'm waiting foer the day when "the press" goes "everyone who listened to us got fucked for a slice of ~20 mn in the btc market"
Apr 14 14:00:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8213 BTC [-]
Apr 14 14:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	"because that's what we do : we cost you money"
Apr 14 14:01:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8212 BTC [-]
Apr 14 14:01:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.821 = 2.463 BTC [-]
Apr 14 14:01:15 <deadweasel>	hehe, it will come.
Apr 14 14:01:29 <BitHub>	mircea fox news said you jumped from a window when it hit 50
Apr 14 14:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 14 14:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	because fox news knows.
Apr 14 14:01:48 <BitHub>	trying to cause a media panic
Apr 14 14:02:02 <error4733>	damientrog :long term: company will ensure profitable operation and moving forward to next gen ASICs. Each share is entitled for 1/400'000 of company lifetime profits.
Apr 14 14:02:24 <mircea_popescu>	this bets of bitcoin twitter account keeps following me like weekly on twitter.
Apr 14 14:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	fucking bs.
Apr 14 14:02:45 <damientrog>	thanks for clearing that up for me error4733
Apr 14 14:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	damientrog it's a gamble on the proposition "Everyone else will be more inept than them".
Apr 14 14:03:13 <error4733>	it was a good deal at 0.1btc/15$
Apr 14 14:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	sure, normally they'd fade. still, it's been 9 months  and still no actual asics.
Apr 14 14:03:25 <damientrog>	besides Avalons
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Apr 14 14:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	no. avalons don't count.
Apr 14 14:03:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00418 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:03:43 <mircea_popescu>	it's a limited volume private run.
Apr 14 14:03:44 <damientrog>	how so?
Apr 14 14:03:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00418 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 14:03:59 <mircea_popescu>	"asics" means, we will sell you ANY QTY as long as you pay within 60 days of ordering.
Apr 14 14:04:00 <error4733>	0.8btc/250$ calcul is different but still god for what i can read
Apr 14 14:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	tjhat's what supply means.
Apr 14 14:04:17 <mircea_popescu>	if i want to buy memory chips I can buy 1mn, 100mn or 1 trn chips.
Apr 14 14:04:35 <damientrog>	I see your point
Apr 14 14:04:57 <damientrog>	then they're indeed the only one
Apr 14 14:04:57 <mircea_popescu>	fact that some guy is making 300 units for his friends./whatever... hardly count in a market sense.
Apr 14 14:05:07 <damientrog>	well I bought 6 Avalons
Apr 14 14:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	yea but still.
Apr 14 14:05:17 <damientrog>	anxiously awaiting them
Apr 14 14:05:27 <error4733>	... fucking lucker :)  bash #2 ?
Apr 14 14:05:32 <damientrog>	#3
Apr 14 14:05:35 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 14 14:05:42 <error4733>	sorry for your loss
Apr 14 14:05:50 <mircea_popescu>	you've not bought anything imo. maybe lottery tickets.
Apr 14 14:05:58 <damientrog>	I know
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Apr 14 14:06:20 <damientrog>	it's not my only investment
Apr 14 14:06:34 <mircea_popescu>	a, yea. not impugning uyou, just sdayin'
Apr 14 14:06:34 <damientrog>	whole BTC is one big gamble
Apr 14 14:06:41 <mircea_popescu>	from a macro perspective exactly.
Apr 14 14:06:48 <error4733>	avalon show before they have the gift for every ticket #1
Apr 14 14:06:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:06:56 <error4733>	yes
Apr 14 14:07:21 <error4733>	that my point 2 week ago, asking myself if i want sold some btc
Apr 14 14:07:30 <error4733>	every btc is a lotery ticket
Apr 14 14:07:47 <error4733>	nobody know how much you can win with
Apr 14 14:08:17 <damientrog>	I've cashed out more than I invested + have more BTC than before, so it's all fun and games for me
Apr 14 14:08:36 <damientrog>	but I don't think many people are in that situation
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Apr 14 14:09:16 <error4733>	10%, the average for sup IQ
Apr 14 14:09:32 <error4733>	FML :/
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Apr 14 14:11:01 <deadweasel>	if you do get it error4733 you could sell for btc when btc is at 30 (probably when it arrives at your door).
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Apr 14 14:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	@ericschmidt For every person online, there are two who are not. By the end of the decade, everyone on Earth will be connected. #NewDigitalAge
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Apr 14 14:13:18 <error4733>	Neither AValon nor BFL, to late for me...
Apr 14 14:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	Mircea_Popescu @ericschmidt For every softie that thinks "every person counts" there's ten hardies that disagree. #NewWorldWar
Apr 14 14:13:30 <mircea_popescu>	curious what he says to that heh.
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Apr 14 14:19:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16605 @ 0.00068596 = 11.3904 BTC [-]
Apr 14 14:19:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2651 @ 0.00068593 = 1.8184 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 14:36:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 200 @ 0.01 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:38:23 *	jurov drinks "genuine swedish pear cider"
Apr 14 14:38:40 <mircea_popescu>	"made from pickled herring" ?
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Apr 14 14:39:03 <unkown247>	hi
Apr 14 14:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	hello
Apr 14 14:39:49 <unkown247>	how are you ?
Apr 14 14:39:56 <jurov>	hi. lol, does not taste like herring
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Apr 14 14:40:18 <jurov>	really yummy
Apr 14 14:40:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 61 @ 0.01 = 0.61 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:40:23 <unkown247>	Can I ask in here ?
Apr 14 14:40:44 <jurov>	unkown247, it depends. just try to ask.
Apr 14 14:40:50 <exfortuna>	hey guys, I'm doing a regression analysis on bitcoin for an econ class, I'm wondering if anyone can point in the right direction for data
Apr 14 14:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	jurov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY
Apr 14 14:40:56 <mircea_popescu>	for the inside of that joke
Apr 14 14:40:58 <unkown247>	how to buy bitcoin
Apr 14 14:41:00 <unkown247>	?
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Apr 14 14:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	unkown247 this is the #bitcoin-assets chan. we're stock brokers etc here.
Apr 14 14:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	try #bitcoin-otc for that.
Apr 14 14:41:39 <unkown247>	ok
Apr 14 14:41:55 <unkown247>	do u mean that u buy and u sell bitcoin ?
Apr 14 14:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	exfortuna tried bitcoincharts ?
Apr 14 14:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	unkown247 no. bitcoin-denominated securities such as shares, options etc.
Apr 14 14:42:31 <unkown247>	ok I got it
Apr 14 14:42:40 <unkown247>	thanks
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Apr 14 14:42:50 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/
Apr 14 14:45:05 <jurov>	sry, i never get any inside jokes related to unsubtitled comedy
Apr 14 14:45:28 <jurov>	and youtube "automatic subtitles" are a joke
Apr 14 14:45:59 <exfortuna>	negative, I'll google that now thanks
Apr 14 14:46:11 <BitHub>	heh stock brokers
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Apr 14 14:46:34 <jurov>	;;seen smickles
Apr 14 14:46:34 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 14 14:46:36 <BitHub>	bit brokers?
Apr 14 14:46:44 <jurov>	seems the attrition rate is really high
Apr 14 14:49:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 14:50:26 <mircea_popescu>	jurov ok let's see if this exists
Apr 14 14:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.40789998 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:52:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.40789999 = 1.6316 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:52:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.40789999 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:53:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8499 = 2.5497 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:53:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 14:54:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00419 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 14:56:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 14:56:39 <mircea_popescu>	jurov seems it doesn't exist. pity.
Apr 14 14:57:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 29 @ 0.00419 = 0.1215 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:57:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00449 = 0.0449 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:57:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 12 @ 0.004499 = 0.054 BTC [+]
Apr 14 14:58:15 <jurov>	*shrug* *smile*
Apr 14 14:59:02 <BitHub>	wish some new asset exchanges would pop up
Apr 14 14:59:41 <BitHub>	what's havelock like?
Apr 14 15:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	lol over 100k google translate requests for trilema this month.
Apr 14 15:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	i hope the readers are enjoying gt's humour
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Apr 14 15:01:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.0045 = 0.027 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 15:11:33 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu how have you been?
Apr 14 15:11:42 <mircea_popescu>	not bad.
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Apr 14 15:14:58 <deadweasel>	what's your expectation in the coming months?  slow leak to $30 mimicking 2011 post bubble plateau?  or do we go up again immediately?
Apr 14 15:15:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128227433695.jpg wouldn't it kick ass if that was Bitcoin branded ?
Apr 14 15:15:19 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel 100 to 130.
Apr 14 15:15:27 <deadweasel>	those are great tits.
Apr 14 15:15:35 <deadweasel>	but i bet she gives terrible head
Apr 14 15:15:59 <deadweasel>	you think we've stopped here for the moment then?
Apr 14 15:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	kinda.
Apr 14 15:17:15 <deadweasel>	never can tell.  i hope it calms the fuck down for a while.
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Apr 14 15:17:20 <taub>	mc you are mpoe-pr right?
Apr 14 15:17:28 <taub>	mp*
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Apr 14 15:17:36 <taub>	why do you pretend to be a girl
Apr 14 15:18:05 <jurov>	lol seems the btctalk trolling has deep roots
Apr 14 15:18:19 <deadweasel>	insulating himself probably.  i would.  plus tits go a long way in the forum.
Apr 14 15:18:27 <jurov>	why it is so unbelievable for mp to have female assistant?
Apr 14 15:18:35 <deadweasel>	haha
Apr 14 15:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	taub nope.
Apr 14 15:18:59 <deadweasel>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128227433695.jpg , that's her, he's about to brand her lip plate with a CC.
Apr 14 15:19:37 <mircea_popescu>	jurov possibly because nobody on the interwebs knows any girls ?
Apr 14 15:19:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu question about bitbet, would you guys allow for franchising?
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Apr 14 15:20:08 <thestringpuller>	like github
Apr 14 15:20:10 <FabianB_>	;;next
Apr 14 15:20:11 <gribble>	awaiting breakout: http://bit.ly/Ynx3uT | targets: 106, 113, 124, 130 on the upside | support: 100, 98, 92, 87-88 | resistance: 102.5, 105, 110 | lowball buy target: 74-75 | strong rally sell target: 138-148 | updated by OneFixt ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | trade at your own risk, this is not investment or trading advice | 19 hours, 20 minutes, and 9 seconds
Apr 14 15:20:16 <taub>	why dont you post yoruself on btctalk?
Apr 14 15:20:26 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller specifically ?
Apr 14 15:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	taub i don't have the time/patience/interest.
Apr 14 15:21:14 <taub>	FabianB_: lol who's giving that analysis
Apr 14 15:21:15 <jurov>	taub, i'd avoid dealing with btctalk personally too, if i could
Apr 14 15:21:19 <taub>	all those lines, seem a bit overkill
Apr 14 15:21:31 <FabianB_>	taub: OneFixt
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Apr 14 15:21:45 <OneFixt>	taub: hah yes they are, sorry, had some old lines on there; watching the yellow trinagle
Apr 14 15:21:47 <OneFixt>	triangle
Apr 14 15:22:18 <taub>	i tried a little long from 100 to 104 and 107, but price wouldnt take off so i exited b/e
Apr 14 15:22:32 <taub>	no point in trying to trade when price doesnt move
Apr 14 15:22:38 <OneFixt>	same, exited in the 100s, bought in under 100, then we consolidated
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Apr 14 15:24:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 25 @ 0.2 = 5 BTC [+]
Apr 14 15:24:41 <thestringpuller>	I want to run a bookie service for my town, local bets and shit.
Apr 14 15:24:53 <thestringpuller>	I could make a bitbet bet but then it really has no point
Apr 14 15:25:20 <jurov>	bribe kakobrekla to make you branded copy of bitbet
Apr 14 15:25:33 <thestringpuller>	1 bn bitcoins enough for you :P
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Apr 14 15:26:05 <jurov>	srsly, you're making me an offer?
Apr 14 15:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i still don't ghet it.
Apr 14 15:26:19 <jurov>	=)
Apr 14 15:26:24 <mircea_popescu>	so you put your own bets, promote them among friends or w/e
Apr 14 15:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	how's this different from everyone else using bitbet ?
Apr 14 15:26:33 <mircea_popescu>	what's not to allow ?
Apr 14 15:28:00 <thestringpuller>	Uh you have to approve the bets, and you'll be like "wtf is this bet about who can chug hot sauce and not die"
Apr 14 15:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	zeroconf it.
Apr 14 15:28:21 <thestringpuller>	zeroconf?
Apr 14 15:28:31 <mircea_popescu>	send a bet along with your bet.
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Apr 14 15:28:59 <thestringpuller>	I didn't expect you to be so reasonable :P
Apr 14 15:29:16 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 14 15:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	but seriously, you get a little "send a bet" option as you make a new proposition.
Apr 14 15:29:39 <mircea_popescu>	if you send nothing mods are meh, random shit.
Apr 14 15:29:57 <mircea_popescu>	if you send sometyhing you're more likely to get "a, somebody wants this, ok".
Apr 14 15:29:59 <thestringpuller>	sounds reasonable, i didn't know if you were opposed to people setting up rackets using bitbet
Apr 14 15:30:18 <mircea_popescu>	bets with nothing on have to be judged as cool enough. bets with a decent something on just have not to suck, different standard.
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Apr 14 15:30:38 <mircea_popescu>	well thestringpuller, more generally, everything i do is to help people start their own rackets.
Apr 14 15:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes even against their will.
Apr 14 15:30:49 <thestringpuller>	...
Apr 14 15:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	also, shoes : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/131722396096.jpg
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Apr 14 15:43:03 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 14 15:43:04 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 4 hours, and 29 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 14 15:43:32 <dub>	;;whatis next
Apr 14 15:43:32 <gribble>	Error: No factoid matches that key.
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Apr 14 15:44:33 <jurov>	thestringpuller, i remember that comics where a dog sitting before door is drawn "intently staring at the door makes the master manifest"
Apr 14 15:45:51 <thestringpuller>	So Fry's dog from Futurama? Not so much. smickles is too busy playing kerbal space program and submitting taxes for probably 4mn people in btc due to tax day being tomorrow
Apr 14 15:47:24 <error4733>	;eightball will this week be epic ?
Apr 14 15:47:38 <error4733>	;;eightball will this week be epic ?
Apr 14 15:47:38 <gribble>	Obviously.
Apr 14 15:47:47 <thestringpuller>	;;eightball will smickles be back after tax day?
Apr 14 15:47:48 <gribble>	It shall be.
Apr 14 15:47:58 <thestringpuller>	I'm holding you to that eight ball :P
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Apr 14 15:50:42 <Scrat>	;;eightball tank please
Apr 14 15:50:43 <gribble>	Maybe...
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Apr 14 15:54:47 <BitHub>	how much of a shoot up we looking at?
Apr 14 15:54:49 <BitHub>	108?
Apr 14 15:55:57 <BitHub>	cmon touch on 95, get away from it genbtc
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Apr 14 15:57:20 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 14 15:57:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.99000, Best ask: 95.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 95.00000, 24 hour volume: 164410.66775422, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 98.95551
Apr 14 15:58:02 <taub>	http://www.firstnationalib.com/contact
Apr 14 15:58:06 <taub>	those pics
Apr 14 15:58:08 <taub>	looks legit!
Apr 14 15:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/thumb/133180234433s.jpg lol
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Apr 14 16:01:54 <taub>	whos posting on that imageboard... D:
Apr 14 16:01:59 <taub>	is it just you?
Apr 14 16:05:57 <mircea_popescu>	i pretty much never do
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Apr 14 16:10:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 14 16:10:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.47845, Best ask: 95.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.52155, Last trade: 95.00000, 24 hour volume: 167103.13362195, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 98.87456
Apr 14 16:10:12 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 90
Apr 14 16:10:15 <gribble>	There are currently 4955.5944 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 450788.933529 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0037 seconds
Apr 14 16:10:21 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 100
Apr 14 16:10:22 <gribble>	There are currently 1289.1968 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 126526.009402 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.3216 seconds
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Apr 14 16:15:29 <Scrat>	;;ticker --last
Apr 14 16:15:30 <gribble>	92.02000
Apr 14 16:20:26 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 14 16:20:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.40000, Best ask: 95.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 96.00000, 24 hour volume: 169521.80213052, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 98.79745
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Apr 14 16:24:16 <wao>	;;goxlag
Apr 14 16:24:18 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.046827 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00209782958714 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
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Apr 14 16:25:55 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 14 16:25:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.90001, Best ask: 92.95570, Bid-ask spread: 0.05569, Last trade: 92.95570, 24 hour volume: 169543.27943456, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 98.78371
Apr 14 16:26:51 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 14 16:26:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.00000, Best ask: 93.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 93.35000, 24 hour volume: 170955.66962554, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 98.73499
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Apr 14 16:35:53 <ThickAsThieves>	nice little rollercoaster ride
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Apr 14 16:37:53 <c1n0>	yep
Apr 14 16:38:00 <c1n0>	riding it
Apr 14 16:38:34 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 14 16:38:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.90001, Best ask: 97.95739, Bid-ask spread: 0.05738, Last trade: 97.95740, 24 hour volume: 171620.58709880, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 98.77419
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Apr 14 16:39:54 <thestringpuller>	so much money to be made off this volatility
Apr 14 16:39:57 <c1n0>	hehe bitpay now doing a ama
Apr 14 16:39:59 <error4733>	!asks 149
Apr 14 16:40:10 <error4733>	;;asks 149
Apr 14 16:40:10 <gribble>	There are currently 53669.837 bitcoins offered at or under 149.0 USD, worth 6531716.9332 USD in total. | Data vintage: 60.9799 seconds
Apr 14 16:40:22 <error4733>	;;bids 51
Apr 14 16:40:22 <gribble>	There are currently 89062.744 bitcoins demanded at or over 51.0 USD, worth 6129957.00662 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.8990 seconds
Apr 14 16:40:47 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 14 16:40:47 <gribble>	There are currently 43661871 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13751617.8104 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.0780 seconds
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Apr 14 16:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 14 16:41:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.60512, Best ask: 96.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29488, Last trade: 96.90000, 24 hour volume: 171682.79420653, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 98.77633
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Apr 14 16:44:23 <kakobrekla>	cmooon worthless!
Apr 14 16:44:48 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 14 16:45:20 <orkaa>	spoiled brat
Apr 14 16:46:12 *	c1n0 puts bids in to buy 100 @ worthless
Apr 14 16:46:28 <ThickAsThieves>	this volatility is a lil too risky for me, not riding this rollercoaster just yet
Apr 14 16:46:48 <c1n0>	deploy golden parachute
Apr 14 16:46:59 <c1n0>	with some fatties in hand
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Apr 14 16:48:29 <c1n0>	;;next
Apr 14 16:48:29 <gribble>	expecting 105 if we break 99 | targets: 105, 113, 124, 130 on the upside | support: 94, 92, 87-88 | resistance: 102.5, 105, 110 | lowball buy target: 74-75 | strong rally sell target: 138-148 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 14 2013, 20:46 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | 2 minutes and 27 seconds ago
Apr 14 16:48:34 <ThickAsThieves>	have you ever traded bitcoin... ON WEED?!
Apr 14 16:50:18 <c1n0>	i usually consult oracles and ask them to gather every different type of drug out there and make a cocktail and inject it into my eyeballs just before i make a trade so i can read the market better
Apr 14 16:51:36 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 14 16:51:37 <gribble>	98.76
Apr 14 16:52:05 <thestringpuller>	c1n0: ahhahahahaha
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Apr 14 16:52:10 <thestringpuller>	that made me laugh irl
Apr 14 16:52:11 <thestringpuller>	thank you
Apr 14 16:52:13 <thestringpuller>	I needed that
Apr 14 16:52:25 <c1n0>	:)
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Apr 14 16:56:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.825 BTC [-]
Apr 14 16:56:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.821 BTC [-]
Apr 14 16:57:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.0036 = 0.126 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 17:03:35 <jurov>	c1no can we hear more about the oracles?
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Apr 14 17:04:17 <jurov>	whether they are those contributing to polimedia.us/dtng
Apr 14 17:04:25 <jurov>	or some other kind
Apr 14 17:04:56 <kakobrekla>	;;ud spoiled brat
Apr 14 17:04:57 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spoiled%20brat | A kid who wants everything they see... and they cry and scream thir heads off until they get it.
Apr 14 17:05:12 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 14 17:05:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.50002, Best ask: 97.66999, Bid-ask spread: 0.16997, Last trade: 97.50002, 24 hour volume: 167079.16352366, 24 hour low: 85.50000, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 99.06497
Apr 14 17:05:26 <kakobrekla>	not worthless yet so argument invalid
Apr 14 17:05:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 28 @ 0.0045 = 0.126 BTC [+]
Apr 14 17:06:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 68 @ 0.00371 = 0.2523 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 17:09:58 <pgp>	what is this ;;next functionality?
Apr 14 17:11:21 <kakobrekla>	;;next
Apr 14 17:11:21 <gribble>	expecting 105 if we break 99 | targets: 105, 113, 124, 130 on the upside | support: 94, 92, 87-88 | resistance: 102.5, 105, 110 | lowball buy target: 74-75 | strong rally sell target: 138-148 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 14 2013, 20:46 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | 25 minutes and 19 seconds ago
Apr 14 17:11:35 <kakobrekla>	like eightball, but more elaborate
Apr 14 17:11:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 158 @ 0.01 = 1.58 BTC [+]
Apr 14 17:13:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [-]
Apr 14 17:14:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0971 BTC [-]
Apr 14 17:14:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 42 @ 0.097 = 4.074 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 17:16:38 <thestringpuller>	;;eightball will we hit 98
Apr 14 17:16:40 <gribble>	No clue.
Apr 14 17:16:43 <mircea_popescu>	basically nonsense.
Apr 14 17:16:43 <thestringpuller>	XD
Apr 14 17:16:55 <thestringpuller>	;;eightball is mircea_popescu getting laid?
Apr 14 17:16:56 <gribble>	I doubt it very much.
Apr 14 17:17:07 <thestringpuller>	So mircea_popescu you have some splaining to do
Apr 14 17:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;eightball do i have any explaining to do
Apr 14 17:17:24 <gribble>	One would be wise to think so.
Apr 14 17:17:29 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 14 17:17:35 <thestringpuller>	:D
Apr 14 17:17:46 <thestringpuller>	I expect a blog post please.
Apr 14 17:17:47 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 14 17:18:53 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/13773.html
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Apr 14 17:20:39 <thestringpuller>	is that that thing that keeps your penis flacid, but if you get an erection it hurts
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Apr 14 17:20:50 <thestringpuller>	they made a joke about that in californication
Apr 14 17:21:47 <orkaa>	ugh, does this thing have a tube that goes inside your dick
Apr 14 17:21:55 <orkaa>	that could… hurt
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Apr 14 17:22:32 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's designed to
Apr 14 17:22:42 <pgp>	bitcoinity added interval high/low on the charts - nice..
Apr 14 17:23:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10319 @ 0.00068593 = 7.0781 BTC [-]
Apr 14 17:23:48 <mircea_popescu>	afaik that was always there
Apr 14 17:27:24 <pgp>	really, never rendered for me...
Apr 14 17:28:08 <mircea_popescu>	high: 100.75      low: 92.00
Apr 14 17:28:11 <mircea_popescu>	that's what you mean right ?
Apr 14 17:28:34 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: possibly relevant to your future "Bitcoin over shortwave" station:  http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a207831.pdf
Apr 14 17:28:38 <pgp>	no..  shaded red/green enveloping on the line chart...
Apr 14 17:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	i can't believe people still use pdfs
Apr 14 17:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	pgp o o
Apr 14 17:31:43 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform ok i don't get this. use meteors how ?!
Apr 14 17:31:56 <pgp>	i like it - a bit more intuitive than a candlestick chart...
Apr 14 17:32:11 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_burst_communications
Apr 14 17:32:40 <kakobrekla>	candlestisks are fun
Apr 14 17:32:41 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: like satellite comms, but without having to launch satellites.
Apr 14 17:32:43 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what do you use instead of pdfs?
Apr 14 17:32:56 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck. ok, that's clever.
Apr 14 17:33:09 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller text.
Apr 14 17:34:19 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: one thought: this could even be done for profit. Say, transmit the normal blockchain with a few hours of lag, but those who paid a transaction fee get broadcast in real time.
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Apr 14 17:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	nah. problem with mbc i'm told is that it has very narrow bw
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Apr 14 17:36:09 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: a few kb/sec. will suffice in the hypothetical Dark Internet-less Future and its transaction volume
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Apr 14 17:36:39 <mircea_popescu>	maybe a kb/sec but most trails don't last a second
Apr 14 17:36:57 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. why not just make a bunch of normal ham radio stations ?
Apr 14 17:37:06 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I think the quoted bandwidth takes the frequency of usable ion trails into account.
Apr 14 17:37:12 <mircea_popescu>	there's no real advantage in communicating over geographical gaps.
Apr 14 17:38:05 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: without ionosphere bounce (shortwave, <30MHz) or something like MBC you will have a very short usable distance.
Apr 14 17:38:15 <thestringpuller>	tookah
Apr 14 17:38:22 <thestringpuller>	ppokah oomla doomah!
Apr 14 17:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform the idea is that if you don't manage to get 10-20-50 mile continuity between statyions
Apr 14 17:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	it's unlikely for your currency to be useful or recognised anyway.
Apr 14 17:38:51 <Diablo-D3>	actually, you could just do non-geo sats
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Apr 14 17:38:56 <Diablo-D3>	that repeat the entire chain
Apr 14 17:39:07 <mircea_popescu>	the roman empire coinage only had much relevance in those places 10 miles or closer to a castrum
Apr 14 17:39:16 <Diablo-D3>	using commodity equipment
Apr 14 17:39:32 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 ya but the idea is that for w/e reason you can't use satellites at all
Apr 14 17:39:57 <Diablo-D3>	so what, just bouncing it off shortwave using high gain antennas?
Apr 14 17:40:02 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the scenario I envision has BTC playing the role of gold bullion, that is relevant despite only being used in relatively few places.
Apr 14 17:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	basically
Apr 14 17:40:07 <Diablo-D3>	well
Apr 14 17:40:15 <Diablo-D3>	shortwave is probably too high bandwidth for what we want
Apr 14 17:40:17 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform ya but that's fiction. you'd have one chain per pocket.
Apr 14 17:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	there'd be canadacaoin and mexicocoin etc
Apr 14 17:40:37 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform may get what he wants anyhow
Apr 14 17:40:40 <mircea_popescu>	the cocoin
Apr 14 17:40:41 <Diablo-D3>	this is why I want to start my own chain
Apr 14 17:40:53 <Diablo-D3>	to be the silver to btc's gold
Apr 14 17:41:01 <mircea_popescu>	you're starting ltc ?
Apr 14 17:41:06 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 14 17:41:07 <Diablo-D3>	no, ltc did it wrong
Apr 14 17:41:18 <Diablo-D3>	it should have never used the bitcoin codebase like it did
Apr 14 17:41:23 <asciilifeform>	a scenario where there are multiple blockchains, but automated exchanges connect at least the well-behaved ones, is in some ways equivalent to having one blockchain.
Apr 14 17:41:25 <Diablo-D3>	they didnt understand the implications of the code, and they fucked it up
Apr 14 17:41:31 <Diablo-D3>	litecoin is dead, hell, it was never born
Apr 14 17:41:35 <Diablo-D3>	it went nowhere and did nothing
Apr 14 17:41:41 <Diablo-D3>	I refer to litecoin using past tense.
Apr 14 17:41:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 730 @ 0.00068593 = 0.5007 BTC [-]
Apr 14 17:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7449 @ 0.00068551 = 5.1064 BTC [-]
Apr 14 17:42:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00068538 = 4.2836 BTC [-]
Apr 14 17:42:08 <kakobrekla>	theres all the other 10 chains
Apr 14 17:42:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00068351 = 6.8351 BTC [-]
Apr 14 17:42:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8621 @ 0.00068305 = 5.8886 BTC [-]
Apr 14 17:42:10 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform yeah in some ways. but if you can't interconnect then youi can't really have an exchange.
Apr 14 17:42:21 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: yeah, but they're all based on bitcoin
Apr 14 17:42:25 <Diablo-D3>	I don't directly want that.
Apr 14 17:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	is solid coin still around btw ?
Apr 14 17:42:32 <Diablo-D3>	I want to take the ideas of bitcoin and use new code
Apr 14 17:42:32 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: LTC ~= 1.3 USD, as of a few seconds ago. Not exactly gum wrappers yet.
Apr 14 17:42:42 <Diablo-D3>	well hows this
Apr 14 17:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 if you actually take satoshi's stuff, write A SPEC and then have some implementations
Apr 14 17:42:49 <kakobrekla>	i dont think they are based on btc.. not all of them
Apr 14 17:42:52 <mircea_popescu>	you;ll have some of my attention.
Apr 14 17:42:55 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: there will be a spec, yes.
Apr 14 17:43:03 <kakobrekla>	i mean some are significantly different and stupider
Apr 14 17:43:06 <Diablo-D3>	Ill need help writing it from people who write formal specs
Apr 14 17:43:07 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: sorry, had the denominations reversed. but still.
Apr 14 17:43:22 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: they started with the bitcoin codebase, none of them went it from scratch
Apr 14 17:43:30 <mircea_popescu>	this is true, he has a point there.
Apr 14 17:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	a full re-doing of satoshi's stuff would be great even if only an exercise.
Apr 14 17:44:01 <kakobrekla>	but he is not speaking about that
Apr 14 17:44:04 <Diablo-D3>	yes I am
Apr 14 17:44:04 <mircea_popescu>	pretend it's 2009 and you just published the paper. nao what.
Apr 14 17:44:08 <mircea_popescu>	i thought he was
Apr 14 17:44:10 <Diablo-D3>	Im saying Im going to do it from scratch
Apr 14 17:44:29 <Diablo-D3>	theres a lot of interesting ideas I want to try out on making chain transmission faster
Apr 14 17:44:44 <Diablo-D3>	we have what equates to a giant torrent network
Apr 14 17:44:47 <Diablo-D3>	why arent we using it as such
Apr 14 17:45:07 <Diablo-D3>	I also want to make it very fucking difficult for ASICs to win
Apr 14 17:45:21 <Diablo-D3>	GPUs and FPGAs are already out
Apr 14 17:45:26 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: at this point, an alt-chain is guilty until proven innocent of being a clever pre-mining scheme.
Apr 14 17:45:27 <kakobrekla>	first you want to run asic then you want to kill asic
Apr 14 17:45:30 <kakobrekla>	im not following
Apr 14 17:45:33 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133347564549.jpg clit likes your idea.
Apr 14 17:45:35 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: and ASICs will always win in the end.
Apr 14 17:45:41 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: its impossible to premine anyhow
Apr 14 17:46:05 <Diablo-D3>	if your first block is 0
Apr 14 17:46:15 <Diablo-D3>	and hwardwired into the client
Apr 14 17:46:22 <Diablo-D3>	or rather, your first block's parent is 0
Apr 14 17:46:27 <Diablo-D3>	how the fuck do you premine it
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Apr 14 17:46:37 <Scrat>	i will mine diablocoins
Apr 14 17:46:44 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: people will always assume that whoever the early miners turn out to be, are in cahoots with whoever proposes the alt-chain.
Apr 14 17:46:51 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: well, they are.
Apr 14 17:46:54 <kakobrekla>	dont call it diablocoin
Apr 14 17:46:58 <Diablo-D3>	even with bitcoin it was
Apr 14 17:47:00 <thestringpuller>	I will mine diablo coins too
Apr 14 17:47:06 <kakobrekla>	or maybe better yet yeah do that.
Apr 14 17:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly. can it be called something other than "Coin"
Apr 14 17:47:12 <Diablo-D3>	hell, I think satoshi may have even asked me early on to use bitcoin
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Apr 14 17:47:23 <Diablo-D3>	either that, or someone who he asked asked me
Apr 14 17:47:28 <Diablo-D3>	I know satoshi used multiple irc nicks
Apr 14 17:47:42 <kakobrekla>	one of them was Diablo-D3
Apr 14 17:47:48 <thestringpuller>	lololol
Apr 14 17:47:50 <kakobrekla>	conspirazi
Apr 14 17:47:55 <Diablo-D3>	YES< KAK, IM SATOSHI, YOU CAUGHT ME
Apr 14 17:47:55 <thestringpuller>	hahahaha
Apr 14 17:48:08 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, you'd think I would write c++ that horrid?
Apr 14 17:48:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol he was fishing for that so hard
Apr 14 17:48:29 <asciilifeform>	now, consider an alt-chain where mining can only be done with human labour. say, solving PSPACE-complete puzzles like Sokoban.
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Apr 14 17:48:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]
Apr 14 17:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	o yes
Apr 14 17:49:01 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: Ive written bots that do sokoban for me on nethack
Apr 14 17:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	i'd have my slavegirls mining naked in chains
Apr 14 17:49:14 <Diablo-D3>	so w/e
Apr 14 17:49:16 <mircea_popescu>	I WOULD RULE THIS COIN
Apr 14 17:49:28 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: exactly. slavegirls don't scale quite as well as ASICs.
Apr 14 17:49:40 <mircea_popescu>	i beg your pardon ?
Apr 14 17:49:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is actually jabba the hutt
Apr 14 17:49:49 <mircea_popescu>	here we are 4 years in all we have is ~300 asics
Apr 14 17:49:51 <thestringpuller>	builds his empire on slave girls
Apr 14 17:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	get out. slavegirls scale way better.
Apr 14 17:50:04 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I'm rather surprised you have not built SlaveCoin yet.
Apr 14 17:50:11 <mircea_popescu>	im lazy.
Apr 14 17:50:20 <thestringpuller>	that's why mpex is 1990's
Apr 14 17:50:23 <thestringpuller>	:D
Apr 14 17:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	this is the problem with slavery, it doesn't promot innovation.
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Apr 14 17:50:51 <ThickAsThieves>	wtb 10,000 diablocoins at gox spot price
Apr 14 17:52:04 <mircea_popescu>	actually,. to go real fascist :
Apr 14 17:52:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8380 @ 0.00068305 = 5.724 BTC [-]
Apr 14 17:52:07 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: Satoshi's use of gnarly C++ is one of the best pieces of evidence for the "Bitcoin is an NSA black project" crackpot hypothesis.
Apr 14 17:52:09 <Diablo-D3>	well, if btc is going to reach global GDP prices ($34k at current global GDP) then DiabloCoin should be around $1.
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Apr 14 17:52:16 <mircea_popescu>	you could have mining which consists of giving birth to specified-dna babies.
Apr 14 17:52:21 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: /me shrugs
Apr 14 17:52:48 <mircea_popescu>	you'd have to keep a bunch of vats somewhere which'd be the blockchain
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Apr 14 17:53:17 <Diablo-D3>	but basically
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Apr 14 17:53:32 <Diablo-D3>	you know how blocks are named by a 256 bit value?
Apr 14 17:53:39 <Diablo-D3>	I think I might go the 1024 bit value route
Apr 14 17:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Apr 14 17:54:27 <Diablo-D3>	qc proof.
Apr 14 17:54:53 <mircea_popescu>	explain it to me like i'm retarded
Apr 14 17:54:59 <mircea_popescu>	which is usually the case anyway.
Apr 14 17:55:01 <Diablo-D3>	okay, you know what scrypt is, right?
Apr 14 17:55:13 <Diablo-D3>	scrypt isn't limited to what ltc is doing with it
Apr 14 17:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
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Apr 14 17:55:51 <kakobrekla>	cant they change that like bitcoin can to sha512
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Apr 14 17:56:03 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: they'd have to actually do it
Apr 14 17:56:09 <Diablo-D3>	and they have no interest in doing it
Apr 14 17:56:10 <kakobrekla>	....
Apr 14 17:56:16 *	kakobrekla facepalms
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Apr 14 17:56:43 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: I dont think they're smart enough to figure out how, honestly.
Apr 14 17:56:53 <kakobrekla>	like bitcoin isnt at sha512 yet cause there is no interest cause there is no need cause its making sense ?
Apr 14 17:56:54 <Diablo-D3>	the original scrypt spec doesnt allow the sizes Im talking about
Apr 14 17:56:55 <asciilifeform>	all of the Bitcoin-like altchains are doomed, because the first serious guy with a semiconductor fab will own the world. SlaveCoin is the future!
Apr 14 17:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	who's "they"
Apr 14 17:57:02 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: the ltc devs
Apr 14 17:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform there's more people owning slaves than semiconductor fabs. this is a fact.
Apr 14 17:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	there's multiple ltc devs ?!
Apr 14 17:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was just the azn kid
Apr 14 17:57:44 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the slaves need a certain minimum IQ, for Sokoban.
Apr 14 17:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	most slaves are smarter than average for their area.
Apr 14 17:58:05 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: theres been other committers
Apr 14 17:58:08 <Diablo-D3>	close enough to say plural
Apr 14 17:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Apr 14 17:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	i never followed it closely
Apr 14 17:58:38 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow, he took an off the shelf message signing scheme
Apr 14 17:58:45 <Diablo-D3>	well
Apr 14 17:58:50 <Diablo-D3>	a key derivation function
Apr 14 17:58:59 <Diablo-D3>	and threw it in
Apr 14 17:59:13 <Diablo-D3>	without really understanding how it it worked
Apr 14 17:59:41 <asciilifeform>	think about the endgame in the ASIC trend. eventually, only powerful industrial nations will matter in the BTC game, because they can afford to build fabs. Just a handful each, even. And we're back to the central-baking clusterfuck we see with fiat.
Apr 14 17:59:53 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: exactly
Apr 14 18:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform no we're not.
Apr 14 18:00:02 <Diablo-D3>	which is why I want something that requires off the shelf normal CPUs
Apr 14 18:00:07 <asciilifeform>	SlaveCoin, on the other hand, evens the playing field somewhat.
Apr 14 18:00:23 <mircea_popescu>	no it doesn't omg. the same can be said : only the most powerful states can keep slaves etc.
Apr 14 18:00:30 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: basically
Apr 14 18:00:38 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.tarsnap.com/scrypt.html
Apr 14 18:00:39 <Diablo-D3>	read that
Apr 14 18:01:19 <Diablo-D3>	see where it says -m?
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Apr 14 18:01:40 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Apr 14 18:01:42 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: any scheme that claims to be resistant to hardware brute-forcing which doesn't change complexity class is hollow - it just hasn't met the right hardware yet.
Apr 14 18:01:43 <Diablo-D3>	ltc could be fixed if they used -m for difficulty.
Apr 14 18:01:58 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: no, the right hardware exists
Apr 14 18:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.427 BTC [+]
Apr 14 18:02:17 <Diablo-D3>	like, I can buy a machine that has 1TB of memory
Apr 14 18:02:17 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Apr 14 18:02:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068305 / 0.00069902 / 0.0007217 (434901 shares, 304.01 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069632 / 0.000735 (2592815 shares, 1,805.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068937 / 0.00077505 (10918510 shares, 7,526.99 BTC)
Apr 14 18:02:38 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: Im not saying I can stop asics
Apr 14 18:02:44 <Diablo-D3>	Im saying I can make their construction very expensive
Apr 14 18:02:51 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: a PC with 1TB of RAM will still be beaten by an ASIC connected to the same 1TB of RAM.
Apr 14 18:03:02 <Diablo-D3>	not really
Apr 14 18:03:06 <Diablo-D3>	scrypt is not computation hard.
Apr 14 18:03:24 <Diablo-D3>	once you've gone past the size of your cache, the speed of scrypt is the speed of your memory.
Apr 14 18:03:29 <mircea_popescu>	i think they should use -M anyweay
Apr 14 18:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	-m is nonsense.
Apr 14 18:03:40 <Diablo-D3>	er
Apr 14 18:03:42 <Diablo-D3>	I meant -M not -m
Apr 14 18:03:49 <Scrat>	ram is easier to fab than logic
Apr 14 18:03:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol omg i found first diablocoin bug
Apr 14 18:03:57 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: yes, but anyone can find it
Apr 14 18:03:58 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: hurr
Apr 14 18:03:58 <mircea_popescu>	but scrat has a point
Apr 14 18:03:59 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: fine, the ASIC will have RAM on-die, running at the same clock.
Apr 14 18:04:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [+]
Apr 14 18:04:12 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: do you realize how expensive that is?
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Apr 14 18:04:19 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: certainly
Apr 14 18:04:28 <Diablo-D3>	I'm trying to wildly drive up the cost of ASICs
Apr 14 18:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	this is a lost bet.
Apr 14 18:04:45 <Diablo-D3>	it can be done
Apr 14 18:04:48 <mircea_popescu>	the cost of making computers is nil. we're getting there.
Apr 14 18:04:51 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: but raising the cost of attack is a loser's game. eventually someone will pony up the cost, and rule.
Apr 14 18:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	^
Apr 14 18:05:10 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: yes, but do you know what the fun part is?
Apr 14 18:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	actually raising the cost is building an advantage for the attacker.
Apr 14 18:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	keep cost low.
Apr 14 18:05:14 <Diablo-D3>	difficulty is linked to -M.
Apr 14 18:05:20 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin was a LOT stronger back when ppl cpu minded it
Apr 14 18:05:22 <Diablo-D3>	think about what I just said.
Apr 14 18:05:26 <mircea_popescu>	we had 100k nodes and a bunch of miners.
Apr 14 18:05:33 <mircea_popescu>	now... not so much. 500 nodes and 5 miners.
Apr 14 18:05:33 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: shush for a sec
Apr 14 18:05:38 <asciilifeform>	right now you can put the BTC world in your pocket for less than the cost of a jumbo jet.
Apr 14 18:05:39 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform is thinking
Apr 14 18:06:02 <Diablo-D3>	give up? if difficulty is linked to -M, your asics _stop working_
Apr 14 18:06:09 <Diablo-D3>	they run out of memory
Apr 14 18:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	um
Apr 14 18:06:25 <mircea_popescu>	floating -M may be a great idea.
Apr 14 18:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	in that it ruins on-die ram designs
Apr 14 18:06:39 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: all you need is a high-speed interconnect that lets you connect arbitrarily more of whatever the necessary resource is (RAM, hashing power, etc.)
Apr 14 18:06:51 <mircea_popescu>	BUT! you can just make asics with 1 tb worth of ram per chip and redundant math processes which just share it.
Apr 14 18:06:51 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: yes, but people can already buy those
Apr 14 18:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	so your asic may slow down as m goes up but that's all
Apr 14 18:07:03 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yes but I still eat away at that
Apr 14 18:07:15 <Diablo-D3>	normal people can buy off the shelf hardware and do it cheaper
Apr 14 18:07:24 <mircea_popescu>	noit for long.
Apr 14 18:07:26 <Diablo-D3>	Im trying to make it cost ineffective for asics to win
Apr 14 18:07:28 <mircea_popescu>	this was true of gpus too
Apr 14 18:07:42 <Diablo-D3>	sha256 is computational intensive
Apr 14 18:07:42 <mircea_popescu>	i get what you're trying but you're not ther eyet.
Apr 14 18:07:46 <Diablo-D3>	it uses basically no memory
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Apr 14 18:08:00 <Diablo-D3>	scrypt uses basically no cpu, but is memory intensive
Apr 14 18:08:07 <asciilifeform>	the fun part in all of this is that "for every wily arse, somewhere there is a cock with threads." Eventually someone builds an optical computer operating on standing-wave physics, that pwns every new hashing function you come up with the day it comes out.
Apr 14 18:08:08 <mod6>	isn't it true that major chip makers will get into this space as btc becomes more widespread and demand for these chipsets becomes higher?  innovation will follow also?
Apr 14 18:08:32 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: of course
Apr 14 18:08:41 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: the thing is, average people can buy ram
Apr 14 18:08:45 <Diablo-D3>	average people CANT buy asics
Apr 14 18:08:51 <Diablo-D3>	and asics + ram isnt a winning solution
Apr 14 18:08:59 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 so we hope
Apr 14 18:09:03 <asciilifeform>	the only long-term solution is a work function that is "AI-complete." Hence SlaveCoin.
Apr 14 18:09:08 <mod6>	why not?  what if AMD comes out with ASICs in '14?
Apr 14 18:09:28 <Diablo-D3>	the cost of an ASIC with 1TB of ram is going to be the same as a cheap CPU with 1TB of ram
Apr 14 18:09:35 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform however the problem of making an ai-ciomplete pow function is ALSO kinda difficult./
Apr 14 18:09:50 <Diablo-D3>	its the ram thats going to be expensive, not the ASIC
Apr 14 18:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 nah, it will be higher cause of economies of scale.
Apr 14 18:10:03 <mircea_popescu>	cpus have a large mkt already
Apr 14 18:10:10 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yes, and cpus are the highest economy of scale
Apr 14 18:10:25 <Diablo-D3>	the asics and cpus would use the same ram, and have boards just as complex
Apr 14 18:10:26 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: here's a starting point: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.52.41
Apr 14 18:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	basically your coin would be mined in datacenters.
Apr 14 18:10:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: it probably would be
Apr 14 18:10:45 <asciilifeform>	what remains is to work it into a workable scheme for a hash chain
Apr 14 18:11:00 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: but a lot of people have already built mining farms in their basements
Apr 14 18:11:00 <asciilifeform>	an "exercise for the alert reader," really.
Apr 14 18:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform so are you working on this ?
Apr 14 18:12:17 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I might, if I lacked anything else to do. Personally I'm not sitting on a stable of slaves waiting to be Sokobanned.
Apr 14 18:12:31 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: you, on the other hand, have plenty of motivation to try, possibly.
Apr 14 18:12:33 <mircea_popescu>	it's the internet, easy enough to do.
Apr 14 18:12:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00068305 = 14.3441 BTC [-]
Apr 14 18:13:09 <mircea_popescu>	i don't happen to believe in making things to own. i prefer owning things other ppl make
Apr 14 18:13:09 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: there are a great many interesting hard problems, and life is short.
Apr 14 18:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 14 18:13:24 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you made an exchange though that you now own
Apr 14 18:13:29 <thestringpuller>	why contradict yourself?
Apr 14 18:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	only for lack of options
Apr 14 18:13:51 <mircea_popescu>	hater
Apr 14 18:14:13 <asciilifeform>	thestringpuller: dealing in financial instruments is the most effective means of pwning people. far better than the sword.
Apr 14 18:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform let me get this straight.
Apr 14 18:16:05 <mircea_popescu>	suppose we find a liniarisation of sokoban maps, such that any arbitrary number comes to a map
Apr 14 18:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	proof of work could be then accomplished by showing a path of solving the map in at most N steps, where n is the difficulty.
Apr 14 18:16:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00068305 = 7.3428 BTC [-]
Apr 14 18:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	did i miss something here ?
Apr 14 18:17:51 <Scrat>	litecoin-0.6.3c-linux.tar.gz — Litecoin v0.6.3c for Linux (tgz, 32/64-bit) 10.9MB · Uploaded 9 months ago
Apr 14 18:17:56 <Scrat>	is litecoin too cool for recent code or what
Apr 14 18:18:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 14 18:19:33 <mod6>	if its perfect, no need to change it! trololol
Apr 14 18:19:54 *	mod6 looks around for goat
Apr 14 18:20:27 <Scrat>	goat found http://porngo.at
Apr 14 18:20:57 <mod6>	wat
Apr 14 18:21:58 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Apr 14 18:22:10 <mircea_popescu>	why not trade them on mpex i wonder.
Apr 14 18:26:31 <mod6>	yeah, weird. and these are weeklies?
Apr 14 18:26:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00068305 = 6.045 BTC [-]
Apr 14 18:26:54 <mod6>	well, i guess they have up to the next forward month
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Apr 14 18:31:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00068412 = 5.5072 BTC [+]
Apr 14 18:33:08 <mod6>	oh its: personname:     Josh Popham
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Apr 14 18:36:05 <mircea_popescu>	lolwut ?
Apr 14 18:36:20 *	Scrat points mod6 at jcpham
Apr 14 18:36:45 <Scrat>	to*
Apr 14 18:36:55 <mircea_popescu>	haha jcpham went into the options biz ?
Apr 14 18:36:58 <mod6>	yeah
Apr 14 18:37:00 <mod6>	looks that way
Apr 14 18:37:58 <Scrat>	I don't think it's his
Apr 14 18:38:04 <Scrat>	fbastage made it iirc
Apr 14 18:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	no idea who that is
Apr 14 18:39:32 <mod6>	he's the owner of the domain: `whois porngo.at`
Apr 14 18:42:06 <mod6>	these are only european style also.
Apr 14 18:42:35 <mod6>	anyway, interesting
Apr 14 18:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Apr 14 18:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	well... if european style end of month options go for like .4 btc per 96 call
Apr 14 18:44:13 <mircea_popescu>	then maybe mpoe bot isn't even that overpriced atm
Apr 14 18:46:34 <mod6>	ok so the buyer puts in the expiry time, depending if they want weekly or monthy or next forward month: "The expiration date is ________ (GMT) "
Apr 14 18:46:43 <mod6>	but yeah, they can't exercise on their own
Apr 14 18:47:31 <thestringpuller>	maybe someone should take those numbers and make bids
Apr 14 18:47:36 <thestringpuller>	as mircea_popescu indicated
Apr 14 18:48:22 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: btw something Im interested in
Apr 14 18:48:23 <mod6>	i wonder if these contracts will be PGP signed by both parties? i guess someone would have to inquire further...
Apr 14 18:48:35 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: so, blocks are going to keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger, right?
Apr 14 18:49:05 <Diablo-D3>	I should be able to use network coding to basically torrent the new block to all my peers
Apr 14 18:49:53 <Diablo-D3>	say, use compression to compress it as far as possible, then use some form of reed solomon error correction
Apr 14 18:49:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14159 @ 0.00068412 = 9.6865 BTC [+]
Apr 14 18:50:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8309 @ 0.00069018 = 5.7347 BTC [+]
Apr 14 18:50:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1332 @ 0.00069049 = 0.9197 BTC [+]
Apr 14 18:50:21 <Diablo-D3>	so I can send it out in chunks, and getting x of y chunks you can reconstruct the missing (y - x) chunks
Apr 14 18:51:00 <Diablo-D3>	but not only that, all nodes start repeating the block BEFORE Ive sent (y- x) chunks
Apr 14 18:51:24 <Scrat>	so you compress it and get to 60% of the size, then a healthy application of reed solomon codes will give you another 40%
Apr 14 18:51:34 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: hah
Apr 14 18:52:24 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: reed solomon codes wont do that
Apr 14 18:52:36 <Diablo-D3>	infact, lets say I need 3 blocks to reconstruct 4
Apr 14 18:52:37 <Scrat>	if you use something fast like snappy I doubt it will go below 80-90%
Apr 14 18:53:14 <Diablo-D3>	er, 3 reed solomon block chunks to reconstruct 4
Apr 14 18:53:28 <Diablo-D3>	the physical space taken up by 3 will be the size of the original
Apr 14 18:53:46 <Diablo-D3>	so I dont get compression out of those
Apr 14 18:53:56 <Scrat>	I still don't get where it will be used
Apr 14 18:54:10 <Diablo-D3>	it propagates the block faster
Apr 14 18:54:37 <pgp>	wow a lot of coin just printed...
Apr 14 18:54:58 <Diablo-D3>	I send chunk A to peer 1, that completes, then I send chunk B to peer 2 and while Im sending it to 2, peer 1 is sending A to peer n
Apr 14 18:55:01 <thestringpuller>	Shits getting super real
Apr 14 18:55:36 <Diablo-D3>	and then that finishes, and I send chunk C to peer 3, and while Im doing that, peer 1 sends A to another n (where n includes 2 and 3), peer 2 sends B to n (which includes 1 and 3)
Apr 14 18:55:50 <Diablo-D3>	blocks may become double or triple digits in size
Apr 14 18:56:04 <Diablo-D3>	er
Apr 14 18:56:09 <Diablo-D3>	double or triple digits of MB
Apr 14 18:56:09 <Scrat>	i still think that more intelligence in the download algorithms will trump whatever improvement you will get there
Apr 14 18:56:20 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: that IS the intelligence
Apr 14 18:56:27 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: Im actually surprised bittorrent didnt go that route
Apr 14 18:57:02 <Diablo-D3>	it chunks torrents up and seeds sends blocks evenly to peers
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Apr 14 18:57:22 <Diablo-D3>	ie, it prioritizes chunks that have low visibility
Apr 14 18:57:31 <Scrat>	well I need to think about it but it looks as if you're gonna need to have a lot of RS redundancy to make that usable
Apr 14 18:57:33 <Diablo-D3>	but it has a lot of shit on top to handle error correction
Apr 14 18:57:41 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: well, no
Apr 14 18:58:25 <Scrat>	whales be dumpin'
Apr 14 18:58:33 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: a properly done RS setup of n of m, the size of n chunks is going to be at least the size of the original
Apr 14 18:58:53 <Diablo-D3>	so if I need 3 or 4 of a 128kb block, 3 RS chunks will be 128kb
Apr 14 18:59:53 <Scrat>	well at this point my brain capacity is reduced to watching kiefer sutherland on my 3rd monitor
Apr 14 18:59:57 <Diablo-D3>	actually, lets say 192kb block, 3 chunks will be 192kb
Apr 14 19:00:07 <Diablo-D3>	I send in total 256kb for a 192kb
Apr 14 19:00:07 <Scrat>	and we shouldn't discuss this anymore :p
Apr 14 19:00:14 <Diablo-D3>	but get in return faster propegation rate
Apr 14 19:00:38 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: btw, theres another thing
Apr 14 19:00:42 <Diablo-D3>	with RS built in
Apr 14 19:00:50 <Diablo-D3>	people could send these over shitty wireless links
Apr 14 19:01:15 <Scrat>	bleh, like bit errors make it to the application level
Apr 14 19:01:18 <Scrat>	that's so rare
Apr 14 19:01:26 <Diablo-D3>	as in, non-networking
Apr 14 19:01:34 <Diablo-D3>	as in, Bitcoin Eye In the Sky
Apr 14 19:02:02 <Diablo-D3>	btw, I probably wouldnt go the route of 3 out of 4
Apr 14 19:02:12 <Scrat>	ditch the OS/lang idea imo and make a new coin
Apr 14 19:02:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 14 19:02:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.95308, Best ask: 90.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04692, Last trade: 90.00000, 24 hour volume: 152496.21232257, 24 hour low: 89.25715, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 98.94765
Apr 14 19:02:22 <Diablo-D3>	8 of 10 or 128 of 30 seem to be optimal route
Apr 14 19:02:27 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: I already shelved seaking
Apr 14 19:02:34 <Diablo-D3>	I didnt like the direction it was going
Apr 14 19:02:46 <Diablo-D3>	I can do those techniques in C
Apr 14 19:02:49 <Diablo-D3>	its just more verbose
Apr 14 19:03:31 <Scrat>	oh shiz, 2 day minimum?
Apr 14 19:03:42 <Diablo-D3>	2 days for what
Apr 14 19:03:52 <Scrat>	talking about price sorry
Apr 14 19:04:08 <Diablo-D3>	128 out of 130 would be really interesting btw
Apr 14 19:04:28 <Diablo-D3>	send 195kb for a 192kb block
Apr 14 19:04:59 <Diablo-D3>	connect to 130 peers, send each one chunk
Apr 14 19:05:14 <Diablo-D3>	entire bitcoin network replicates your block as quickly as possible
Apr 14 19:05:41 <Scrat>	well i guess it does make a bit of sense, just 2-3% of overhead for a great increase in availability
Apr 14 19:05:57 <Diablo-D3>	the entire network could theoretically have chunk 1 by the time you finish chunk 130
Apr 14 19:06:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Apr 14 19:06:34 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 14 19:06:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.00001, Best ask: 88.06169, Bid-ask spread: 0.06168, Last trade: 88.06169, 24 hour volume: 159387.05385511, 24 hour low: 84.88000, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 98.39396
Apr 14 19:06:39 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: dude wtf
Apr 14 19:06:41 <Scrat>	BT is quite old btw and most innovations on it have to do with avoiding centralization
Apr 14 19:06:52 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: yes, which we have in spades
Apr 14 19:06:52 <thestringpuller>	get the fuck out of here with that scamcoin shit
Apr 14 19:07:03 <Scrat>	YESSIR
Apr 14 19:07:04 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: are you trolling me?
Apr 14 19:07:39 <thestringpuller>	sort of, why do you people always want to reinvent the wheel rather than make the wheel better?
Apr 14 19:07:51 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: this is making the wheel better
Apr 14 19:07:55 <thestringpuller>	haven't we all fucking learned that Unix did everything right years ago?
Apr 14 19:08:04 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: actually its funny you mention that
Apr 14 19:08:06 <kakobrekla>	wait the topic of the convo is still diablocoin?
Apr 14 19:08:07 <thestringpuller>	yet people still wanna reinvent shit
Apr 14 19:08:07 <Diablo-D3>	no we havent
Apr 14 19:08:14 <Diablo-D3>	otherwise WE WOULDNT HAVE FUCKING THREADS
Apr 14 19:08:16 <Diablo-D3>	SERIOUSLY
Apr 14 19:08:20 <Scrat>	but to be fair such a scheme will in no way be a USP for a new coin
Apr 14 19:08:23 <Diablo-D3>	WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THREADS WAS _EVER_ SUCH A GOOD IDEA
Apr 14 19:08:23 <Scrat>	QC resistance might be
Apr 14 19:08:28 <thestringpuller>	Dude don't engineers started on the "threads' debate
Apr 14 19:08:34 <thestringpuller>	that's like arguing with a vegan about honey
Apr 14 19:08:41 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: wait, what?
Apr 14 19:09:04 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: I request a new analogy
Apr 14 19:09:14 <thestringpuller>	D00D threads suck, we get it.
Apr 14 19:09:17 <Scrat>	Diablo-D3: a coin with coloring built in
Apr 14 19:09:27 <thestringpuller>	chrome works on processes etc.
Apr 14 19:09:31 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: that could be interesting, but Im not entirely sure how colored coins work
Apr 14 19:09:38 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: it works on processes poorly
Apr 14 19:09:43 <Diablo-D3>	chrome is an utter pile of shit
Apr 14 19:09:53 <Scrat>	u wut
Apr 14 19:10:02 <Scrat>	chrome is the most advanced browser by far
Apr 14 19:10:10 <deadweasel>	choromium is nice too
Apr 14 19:11:03 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: yes, and so is safari and firefox by that measuring stick
Apr 14 19:11:04 <Diablo-D3>	they all suck
Apr 14 19:11:22 <deadweasel>	you still on lynx?
Apr 14 19:11:23 <Scrat>	they did things right from the get go
Apr 14 19:11:32 <Scrat>	proper sandboxing, isolation, JS engine
Apr 14 19:11:46 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow
Apr 14 19:11:47 <Scrat>	we are waay waay offtopic
Apr 14 19:11:50 <Diablo-D3>	the point Im trying to make here
Apr 14 19:11:53 <Scrat>	;;ticker --last
Apr 14 19:11:54 <Diablo-D3>	is Im not reinventing bitcoin
Apr 14 19:11:54 <gribble>	86.99999
Apr 14 19:11:57 <Diablo-D3>	Im making it better
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Apr 14 19:12:12 <thestringpuller>	You won't know that until it's used.
Apr 14 19:12:17 <thestringpuller>	We don't know anything.
Apr 14 19:12:31 <asciilifeform>	re: colored coin: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=988
Apr 14 19:12:34 <Diablo-D3>	well, Im assuming that bitcoin will eventually copy my ideas
Apr 14 19:12:36 <deadweasel>	when frying a skinny fish, do to poke at it too much, this spoils the fish.
Apr 14 19:12:43 <deadweasel>	(the fish is bitcoin)
Apr 14 19:13:00 <deadweasel>	do not*
Apr 14 19:13:15 <deadweasel>	poke at the fish  :D
Apr 14 19:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.427 BTC [+]
Apr 14 19:14:11 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: huh
Apr 14 19:14:13 <Diablo-D3>	I like that idea
Apr 14 19:14:19 <kakobrekla>	!l m s.dice
Apr 14 19:14:20 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00328066 BTC [-]
Apr 14 19:14:25 <Diablo-D3>	but what stops me from doing that now?
Apr 14 19:14:37 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: nothing.
Apr 14 19:14:42 <exfortuna>	does anyone know where I could find data for bitcoin difficulty?
Apr 14 19:15:07 <kakobrekla>	exfortuna current of historic?
Apr 14 19:15:13 <exfortuna>	historic
Apr 14 19:15:17 <Scrat>	exfortuna: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
Apr 14 19:15:20 <Diablo-D3>	okay so wait
Apr 14 19:15:22 <Diablo-D3>	you sign your coins
Apr 14 19:15:32 <Diablo-D3>	and then people can coutersign your coins if you're a dick?
Apr 14 19:15:49 <Diablo-D3>	and then people can reject coins that have too many countersignatories?
Apr 14 19:16:14 <exfortuna>	Thank you, but is there a way to get raw data? I'm doing a regression analysis for an econ class
Apr 14 19:16:37 <Diablo-D3>	exfortuna: you can calculate it from the chain
Apr 14 19:16:41 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: more or less. but note that their signatures only count if you deliberately offered your coins for the process (to build trust.)
Apr 14 19:16:59 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: yes, but what stops me from maliciously countersigning coins
Apr 14 19:17:47 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: the only coins you can shit on are those for which a Shitcoin bond has been issued to you. but it is true that you could do so maliciously. hence a certain amount of dirt would be seen as commonplace.
Apr 14 19:17:57 <asciilifeform>	but the idea is that "clean" coins would be worth more.
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Apr 14 19:18:04 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: hrm
Apr 14 19:18:09 <Scrat>	exfortuna: this might do http://blockexplorer.com/q/nethash
Apr 14 19:18:21 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: it'd be interesting to have colored coins built into the system
Apr 14 19:18:29 <Diablo-D3>	for lots of purposes
Apr 14 19:18:35 <Diablo-D3>	like, company share trading
Apr 14 19:18:39 <Scrat>	csv, difficulty is 5th number
Apr 14 19:19:07 <exfortuna>	appreciate it :)
Apr 14 19:19:31 <asciilifeform>	at the time I wrote that, I was not yet 100% clear on how the block chain works. But now I know that Shitcoin could ride entirely on top of Bitcoin proper. You would store the necessary data as custom transactions (the way some people encode prayers into the blockchain.)
Apr 14 19:19:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00068305 = 4.474 BTC [-]
Apr 14 19:19:42 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: we'd need a limited form of this
Apr 14 19:20:06 <Diablo-D3>	where I send a tx to the network that says "these coins are shitcoined for the following users" and then list their public keys
Apr 14 19:21:11 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: we'd need a new tx format
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Apr 14 19:21:19 <jurov>	sorry for not reading it all but have a proposal for slavecoin
Apr 14 19:21:20 <Diablo-D3>	which isnt a big deal
Apr 14 19:21:25 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: the idea is that a user has to sign a message with his key: "This coin can be shat on in the future, by anyone who can provide x such that F(x) = somenumber." He gives x to the bond holder(s).
Apr 14 19:21:37 <asciilifeform>	F is a trapdoor function.
Apr 14 19:21:38 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: well, the way I'd code it is
Apr 14 19:21:56 <asciilifeform>	jurov: do tell.
Apr 14 19:22:02 <jurov>	encode a block  asenglish text tobe submitted into peer-reviewed scientific journal
Apr 14 19:22:27 <jurov>	preferably resistant to sokal attack
Apr 14 19:22:52 <Diablo-D3>	send a tx that contains your signature like normal, but contains a list of addresses who can countersign it
Apr 14 19:23:05 <asciilifeform>	jurov: this just guarantees that every peer-reviewed journal will be subverted by SlaveCoiners eventually.
Apr 14 19:23:38 <asciilifeform>	jurov: the idea is that you need to pick a work function which remains hard even when a million people (some of whom with arbitrary pull) want it to be easy.
Apr 14 19:23:42 <Diablo-D3>	but the countersignature can ALSO be a normal tx
Apr 14 19:24:11 <ThickAsThieves>	this is what makes this channel great
Apr 14 19:24:17 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: exactly that. this system would ride on top of Bitcoin proper. non-Shitcoin-enabled clients would function exactly as they do now.
Apr 14 19:24:28 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: well, the thing with my idea is
Apr 14 19:24:33 <Diablo-D3>	lets say you have tagged coins
Apr 14 19:24:40 <Diablo-D3>	say, shares of a company
Apr 14 19:25:23 <Diablo-D3>	I can sign a sharecoin using the scripting stuff
Apr 14 19:25:47 <Scrat>	what can you measure slave PoW on?
Apr 14 19:25:52 <Scrat>	nikes per second?
Apr 14 19:25:57 <Scrat>	pyramids per year?
Apr 14 19:25:58 <Scrat>	hmm
Apr 14 19:26:00 <Diablo-D3>	"this coin will be send to user x if user x countersigns this tx with y dtc by block z"
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Apr 14 19:26:24 <asciilifeform>	Scrat: see "CAPTCHA" as a (somewhat flawed) example.
Apr 14 19:26:34 <Diablo-D3>	and the client would automatically pop up requests to do so
Apr 14 19:27:01 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: a Shitcoin that can result in moving coins is a terrible idea. Moral hazard for bond-holders.
Apr 14 19:27:15 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: notice Im not using them for rep
Apr 14 19:27:19 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: the wronged party needs to be able to deal damage to a scammer without benefiting himself.
Apr 14 19:27:22 <Diablo-D3>	Im using them for atomic ownership trnasferral
Apr 14 19:28:46 <Diablo-D3>	and then for sharecoins, I could query the client to see who owns shares
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Apr 14 19:29:52 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: AFAIK, anything where coins can move programmatically is incompatible with Bitcoin as we know it.
Apr 14 19:30:06 <asciilifeform>	Diablo-D3: this would have to be an alt-chain.
Apr 14 19:30:09 <Diablo-D3>	asciilifeform: of course, this is for DiabloCoin.
Apr 14 19:30:09 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: whyyyyy'
Apr 14 19:30:18 <thestringpuller>	Diablo-D3: you are wasting so much time on hypotheticals
Apr 14 19:30:21 <thestringpuller>	this is ridiculous
Apr 14 19:30:25 <thestringpuller>	go build your server farm
Apr 14 19:30:36 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: I juggle tasks.
Apr 14 19:30:41 <Diablo-D3>	seems to use my time more efficiently
Apr 14 19:30:56 <asciilifeform>	thestringpuller: maybe Satoshi should have waxed his car instead of dealing in weird hypotheticals, too.
Apr 14 19:31:02 <ThickAsThieves>	i want to learn more about this. more and more and more and more and more
Apr 14 19:31:18 <asciilifeform>	ThickAsThieves: which "this" ?
Apr 14 19:31:25 <ThickAsThieves>	i kid
Apr 14 19:31:35 <ThickAsThieves>	would prefer the channel get back on topic
Apr 14 19:31:46 <ThickAsThieves>	idea are cool
Apr 14 19:31:47 <Diablo-D3>	thestringpuller: Im not sure where you're getting hypotheticals though
Apr 14 19:31:50 <ThickAsThieves>	but its dominating
Apr 14 19:32:20 <ThickAsThieves>	cant we get back to oohhhing and ahhhing over gox price drop?
Apr 14 19:32:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 14 19:32:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.21000, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.79000, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 164007.46365407, 24 hour low: 84.88000, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 97.85507
Apr 14 19:32:36 <mircea_popescu>	this chatlog. it sucked.
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Apr 14 19:33:26 <ThickAsThieves>	about to hit 85
Apr 14 19:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	poor mtgox
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Apr 14 19:33:55 <Diablo-D3>	we'll hit $34k eventually
Apr 14 19:34:11 <copumpkin>	that's what you need it to be to reach your goal?
Apr 14 19:34:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i cant stand bots
Apr 14 19:34:52 <copumpkin>	I love me some bots
Apr 14 19:34:55 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume they cant be avoided
Apr 14 19:34:58 <Diablo-D3>	copumpkin: do, its global GDP / 21 million
Apr 14 19:35:00 <ThickAsThieves>	but i cant stand them
Apr 14 19:35:43 <asciilifeform>	everybody says that bots/HFT are a fact of life, but what if you have to solve a Sokoban (or other AI-complete nonsense) to move a coin...
Apr 14 19:36:02 <mircea_popescu>	the solution to hft is both simple and already implemented.
Apr 14 19:36:15 <ThickAsThieves>	whats that?
Apr 14 19:36:15 <mircea_popescu>	however, nyse & friends are very mtgox-y
Apr 14 19:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves minimum life for orders.
Apr 14 19:36:29 <mircea_popescu>	you put it on the book, can't cancel it for 1 second say.
Apr 14 19:36:29 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Apr 14 19:36:35 <ThickAsThieves>	good one
Apr 14 19:36:36 <Scrat>	asciilifeform: then it will be delegated to chinese sweatshops
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Apr 14 19:36:39 <Scrat>	like captchas are
Apr 14 19:36:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i just want the market to be a market
Apr 14 19:36:43 <asciilifeform>	that only kills one type of robotic trading (fake orders to move the market)
Apr 14 19:36:50 <ThickAsThieves>	of people wanting the asset
Apr 14 19:36:53 <mircea_popescu>	that's the only kind actually bad.
Apr 14 19:36:55 <ThickAsThieves>	not gaming it
Apr 14 19:37:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess i'm a hypocrite tho
Apr 14 19:37:37 <ThickAsThieves>	.00001 speculation is no different than 10000btc i guess.... i guess
Apr 14 19:37:56 <asciilifeform>	even if all trades had to "fill or kill" immediately, people will still whine about HFT and bots.
Apr 14 19:38:23 <ThickAsThieves>	its sorta like how i hate traffic cameras
Apr 14 19:38:28 <ThickAsThieves>	no representation
Apr 14 19:38:36 <asciilifeform>	because what they're ultimately whining about is "the race being to the swift."
Apr 14 19:39:08 <mircea_popescu>	there's no real advantage to being quick in a game of wits.
Apr 14 19:39:38 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile, entrepreneurs : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=176234.msg1834958#msg1834958
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Apr 14 19:41:04 <exfortuna>	>mfw trollcoin founder becomes millionaire
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Apr 14 19:41:08 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: you will eat your hat if this turns into the next google
Apr 14 19:41:22 <Scrat>	ok exfortuna you beat me to it
Apr 14 19:41:33 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: if speed doesn't matter, why does anyone complain about "goxlag" ?
Apr 14 19:42:00 <asciilifeform>	(whenever I read the word "goxlag" I can't help but imagine a future Gulag for BTC users...)
Apr 14 19:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 14 19:42:17 <ThickAsThieves>	speed matters in arb
Apr 14 19:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	different stories tho, asciilifeform.
Apr 14 19:42:42 <mircea_popescu>	if mtgox lag was subsecond (which is HUGELY laggy for an exchange) nobody'd complain
Apr 14 19:42:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i think mp just meant that in the scheme of things, betting small in high qty is no better than big in low qty
Apr 14 19:42:56 <ThickAsThieves>	but maybe i'm putting words in his mouth
Apr 14 19:43:24 <ThickAsThieves>	if you guess right you win either way
Apr 14 19:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	the idea is just that having a car that's 1ms faster wins you nasdaq, but on a well designed exchange having a bot that's 1ms faster wins you little if anything at all.
Apr 14 19:43:31 <asciilifeform>	the guy who has deterministic+fast access (say, Dr. Evil who runs Gox and controls the Lag Generator) presumably wins over those who are stuck talking to the business end of MtLag
Apr 14 19:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	this presumption is exactly what i'm attacking.
Apr 14 19:43:57 <mircea_popescu>	let me construct an analogy here.
Apr 14 19:44:11 <ThickAsThieves>	includes a whore, go
Apr 14 19:44:11 <mircea_popescu>	romania is one of the eu members. it has always been a laggard. this was always decried as a huge disadvantage.
Apr 14 19:44:24 <mircea_popescu>	now europe is going off a cliff, and the laggard is in the best position all things considering.
Apr 14 19:44:33 <mircea_popescu>	being very fast is not per se an advantage.
Apr 14 19:44:51 <asciilifeform>	ok, maybe lag only works to Dr. Evil's advantage if he uses it as a nice padded box in which to hide front-running.
Apr 14 19:44:56 <mircea_popescu>	executing very well is an advantage if you have a good strat. if you have a bad strat executing poorly is actually better
Apr 14 19:45:04 <mircea_popescu>	this is how bureaucracies survive : clueless but at least slow.
Apr 14 19:45:15 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont think either of your perspectives is totally relavant
Apr 14 19:45:29 <mircea_popescu>	possibly not. i think we're discussing very slightly different things
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Apr 14 19:45:48 <asciilifeform>	I suspect, but cannot prove, that the people making the real money on BTC regardless of ups/downs are front-running exchanges.
Apr 14 19:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	this is not true.
Apr 14 19:46:07 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox frontruns to all shit and yet it lost its shirt
Apr 14 19:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	because they really thought stability is above 100
Apr 14 19:46:42 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: as far as I can tell, its shirt is still on. and the operator is laughing all the way to the (fiat) bank.
Apr 14 19:46:55 <mircea_popescu>	orly ? and on what do you tell this ?
Apr 14 19:47:07 <ThickAsThieves>	did you see all that pizza he ate?
Apr 14 19:47:10 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 14 19:47:11 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the damn thing is still online and trading, for one
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Apr 14 19:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	by that approach that options site referenced earlier is "laughing all the way to the bank"
Apr 14 19:48:19 <ThickAsThieves>	mp do you ever laugh at the bank?
Apr 14 19:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	notrly.
Apr 14 19:48:47 <ThickAsThieves>	first sign of a bubble
Apr 14 19:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 14 19:48:58 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 14 19:49:06 <asciilifeform>	if the real purpose of MtGox is to bring in tons of chump money for the owner, then it is working great, even if it will soon be done serving its purpose.
Apr 14 19:49:31 <ThickAsThieves>	reports of gox's death are exaggerated
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Apr 14 19:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	well you can always have an ex post facto definition of the purpose of an item that suits its actual history.
Apr 14 19:51:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00068305 = 15.4711 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 19:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	go hit on a girl, she turns yhou down, you meant for her to turn you down all along. sure.
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Apr 14 19:52:41 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: this is more like, you do the 100,000th girl and your cock falls off from exceeding its MTBF.
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Apr 14 19:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	hardly.
Apr 14 19:54:56 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: at any rate, why are we burying MtGox again? who exactly is a serious contender for its throne?
Apr 14 19:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	nobody.
Apr 14 19:55:34 <mircea_popescu>	who is a serious contender for the exchange dollars to euros "throne" irl ?
Apr 14 19:56:23 <Diablo-D3>	no one
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Apr 14 19:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	right. cause it's a side business of no particular value or import
Apr 14 19:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	unless you're in like iran or some other primitive economy.
Apr 14 19:57:36 <asciilifeform>	any lackey of the traditional banking system can trade USD for EUR, so it is unremarkable. but there appears to be a limited number of people with the balls and connections to run automated BTC/fiat exchanges.
Apr 14 19:58:41 <mircea_popescu>	notrly.
Apr 14 19:58:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0018 = 0.0036 BTC [+]
Apr 14 19:58:42 <asciilifeform>	BTC-fiat trading might be a "winner take all" game, like cocaine cartels.
Apr 14 19:59:43 <asciilifeform>	the prize goes to whoever can suck in and spit out fiat with the smallest transaction cost.
Apr 14 20:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	it's not a game at all.
Apr 14 20:00:25 <asciilifeform>	(esp. if you include the cost of establishing reputation in said cost. otherwise my front door could be a top BTC exchange.)
Apr 14 20:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 20:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	except they've established the worst reputation ever.
Apr 14 20:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see any value there.
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Apr 14 20:04:28 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: nah, the worst reputation is just some random address you can send BTC or wire USD to from which nothing comes out again. MtGox is still a league above the rest, considering that this is what the rest is by default.
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Apr 14 20:06:21 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: what, exactly, is the practical alternative to Gox right now? OTC, where one has to actually deal with humans? BTC-e, where BTC consistently traces <50USD vs. gox?
Apr 14 20:07:06 <mircea_popescu>	depends. there's no such thing as "an alternative". wjhat's the alternative to eating from the garbage ?
Apr 14 20:07:13 <mircea_popescu>	well... depends. italian restaurants if you like italian food
Apr 14 20:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	jewish delis if you're jewish
Apr 14 20:07:32 <mircea_popescu>	sure, garbage bins almost always have some food in them. i wouldn't call this a "brand"
Apr 14 20:07:38 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: no alternative, if you're a rat. and right now most BTC users are more or less that.
Apr 14 20:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	well it also happens to not matter what the brand is among rats.
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Apr 14 20:08:11 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that all users are currently that makes zero difference on this score.
Apr 14 20:09:04 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: to run with the analogy, you should wonder why most of the non-rats are ignoring the Italian restaurant in favour of the garbage dump.
Apr 14 20:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	they are not.
Apr 14 20:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	i seriously don't know anyone who's neither a noob or an idiot seriously using mtgox.
Apr 14 20:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	sure, on ocasion. but fact remains most major players don't even have an account with them
Apr 14 20:10:03 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: so why is the life (and death) of MtGox a subject of interest to you?
Apr 14 20:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	because a. they keep making dumbass statements that then get fed into the dumbass press which make btc look like a scam
Apr 14 20:10:41 <mircea_popescu>	and b. because they back all sorts of dubious shit and are generally part of the axis of evil.
Apr 14 20:11:05 <asciilifeform>	if it doesn't matter what the rats do or think, why would MtGox's effect on the rat media matter?
Apr 14 20:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	look, everywhere there's going to be pest control.
Apr 14 20:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	this is not because rats matter.
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Apr 14 20:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	it's precisely so they never do.
Apr 14 20:12:03 <asciilifeform>	"guard labour", yes
Apr 14 20:12:26 <mircea_popescu>	in a sense
Apr 14 20:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.422 BTC [+]
Apr 14 20:14:17 <asciilifeform>	to continue with the analogy, virtually all of the serious BTC people are "rat catchers." In that much of their winnings derive from the "stupid money" at the table - MtGox, people who buy BTC there because the TV said to, etc.
Apr 14 20:14:18 <mircea_popescu>	"guard labour" is a void notion pretty much. it stems from the ultimately doomed attempt of the intellectually bankrupt left to justify it's nonsense.
Apr 14 20:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	and no. the rich are not rich because they've stiolen from the poor, or from the stupid.
Apr 14 20:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	how did you end up so immersed in red ideology anyway ?
Apr 14 20:15:00 <asciilifeform>	stolen is the wrong word, when people are shoving money at you voluntarily
Apr 14 20:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.445 BTC [-]
Apr 14 20:15:12 <mircea_popescu>	it's never a case of anything vaguely related.
Apr 14 20:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	money simply follows its own rules, and concentrates in adequate places.
Apr 14 20:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	rthe poor are poor because they are failed human beings, not for any other reason.
Apr 14 20:15:49 <mircea_popescu>	money can best be understood as the practical equivalent of the theological concept of "grace of god"
Apr 14 20:15:56 <mircea_popescu>	you don't have money... well it just means you suck.
Apr 14 20:15:56 <asciilifeform>	so why is the herd of morons pumping MtGox full of dollars such a bad thing?
Apr 14 20:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	that's not the bad thing.
Apr 14 20:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox doing such a horrible job of it is the bad thing.
Apr 14 20:16:36 <asciilifeform>	can't argue with that
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Apr 14 20:17:00 <Namworld>	I use MtGox. Albeit not to daytrade, it's too damn slow for that.
Apr 14 20:17:20 <Namworld>	To exit BTC, waiting to buy back in.
Apr 14 20:17:43 <asciilifeform>	(AFAIK there's nothing "red" about the concept of guard labour. it is just the banal fact that you have to hire rat-catchers if your planet has rats, and this costs you something.)
Apr 14 20:18:04 <Namworld>	Involves waiting a few weeks, and I don't trust other exchanges enough to deposit there.
Apr 14 20:18:22 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform it is at the very least red because its only practical use is to try and give credence to this nonsense theory whereby inequality breeds stagnation through "waste".
Apr 14 20:18:39 <mircea_popescu>	whereas the only true measure of development is inequality,
Apr 14 20:18:48 <mircea_popescu>	and the only places not worth living into are those devoid of inequality.
Apr 14 20:19:22 <asciilifeform>	well yes, but all else being equal, you want the peasants to submit willingly, rather than hire people to pummel them (with gold that you could otherwise buy a second golden helicopter with.)
Apr 14 20:19:35 <mircea_popescu>	not the case.
Apr 14 20:19:44 <mircea_popescu>	the only practical way to educate the human being is through violence.
Apr 14 20:19:50 <mircea_popescu>	as long as you mean to enlighten you mean to beat.
Apr 14 20:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	this has nothing to do with protecting anything of yours.
Apr 14 20:20:26 <asciilifeform>	yes, but presumably the cost of administering more of a beating than is necessary for a full education is a net waste.
Apr 14 20:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	there is no such thing
Apr 14 20:20:48 <mircea_popescu>	education is purely a sexual process. what's this "more fucks than necessary" ?
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Apr 14 20:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	the effort of fucking a pregnant woman (for instance) is in no way wasted.
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Apr 14 20:22:04 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: fast-forward a decade. you run a kingdom. do you care to spend all of your time personally quashing revolts?
Apr 14 20:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	that's the motherfucking point of a kingdom.
Apr 14 20:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	people need a good answer as to why the fuck they're your subjects.
Apr 14 20:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	if this is too muich work for you time to retire.
Apr 14 20:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	trying to save on fucking ain't the way to go about marriage.
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Apr 14 20:23:41 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: seems like you were born a few 1000 years too late...
Apr 14 20:23:55 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: Rome needs you
Apr 14 20:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 14 20:24:30 <mircea_popescu>	i just happen to be able to fit more on my bus than the current fashion
Apr 14 20:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	in rome i'd have probably driven them up the wall with my globalist ideas.
Apr 14 20:25:25 <asciilifeform>	I think Rome could learn; "BitDenarius..."
Apr 14 20:25:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Apr 14 20:25:40 <mircea_popescu>	but think about it : the old guard of the soviet republic, them people in their leather jackets
Apr 14 20:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	they're a form of expression of that state.
Apr 14 20:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	save on that ?! what sense does it make!
Apr 14 20:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	that's what you do! it's like asking van gogh to save on paint.
Apr 14 20:26:32 <mircea_popescu>	tell hemingway "could you rewrite this ? all the m's and w's use so much ink... try writing with more i's instead"
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Apr 14 20:26:50 <asciilifeform>	actually, Stalin ramped up industry, the war machine, etc. by saving on the men in the leather jackets. (Most of the purging was of the old purging apparatus.) Resources are, unfortunately, finite.
Apr 14 20:27:03 <mircea_popescu>	this isn't even true.
Apr 14 20:27:12 <mircea_popescu>	what, leningrad was half purging apparatuses ?
Apr 14 20:27:22 <mircea_popescu>	he purged the very generals that won the war
Apr 14 20:27:26 <mircea_popescu>	late rome style.
Apr 14 20:27:58 <mircea_popescu>	and there's a reason the tinted windows tinted glasses douches in the us have infinite budgets atm. they are THE state.
Apr 14 20:28:09 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: well yes.
Apr 14 20:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	or moreover this is what the state is, much like a supermodel is her tits and her waist
Apr 14 20:28:22 <mircea_popescu>	and her ankles and so forth
Apr 14 20:28:22 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: and what, you would let the successful generals live? so they can take your throne?
Apr 14 20:28:38 <mircea_popescu>	you misunderstand the relationship between the powerful and power.
Apr 14 20:29:27 <mircea_popescu>	i think the problem is something along these lines : young cock gets into night club, sees successful local mobster with the three girls dotting on him. figures this is a cool squarejaw, he's forcing these women to do such things.
Apr 14 20:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	no, he's not. most of his time is spent trtying  to keep such women at bay.
Apr 14 20:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	these three are just there cause they;'re the least obnoxious of a sea of similar bitches in heat.
Apr 14 20:29:56 <asciilifeform>	consider Gen. Zhukov. Too popular, more or less un-purgeable. He had to be slowly demoted, transferred to the outskirts of the empire, finessed into oblivion. Or he would have gone for the throne, for sure.
Apr 14 20:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	just so with power. the powerful don't actively seek it. it seeks them.
Apr 14 20:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Apr 14 20:30:16 <mircea_popescu>	nobody who endfs on the throne actually goes for the throne.
Apr 14 20:31:44 <asciilifeform>	yes, the throne finds you. everybody seems to say this.
Apr 14 20:32:00 <asciilifeform>	but in what sense is it true, if you plugged the four other contenders before it found you.
Apr 14 20:32:07 <thestringpuller>	;;eightball does game of thrones come on tonight?
Apr 14 20:32:08 <gribble>	About as likely as pigs flying.
Apr 14 20:32:12 <thestringpuller>	XD
Apr 14 20:32:17 <thestringpuller>	this thing is pretty good
Apr 14 20:32:26 <mircea_popescu>	i never met stalin or jukov, but i can take an oath stalin only fucked jukov because jukov pissed him off.
Apr 14 20:32:35 <thestringpuller>	;;seen jurov
Apr 14 20:32:35 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <jurov> preferably resistant to sokal attack
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Apr 14 20:33:11 <asciilifeform>	yes, but he pissed him off by being the successful square-jaw in the nightclub.
Apr 14 20:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	the only alternative is jukov got sick of the shit and weanted out.
Apr 14 20:33:30 <asciilifeform>	note that Stalin couldn't even ride a horse (Zhukov rode in the victory parade in his stead.)
Apr 14 20:33:31 <mircea_popescu>	there's just no way stalin went "omg must protect tyhrone"
Apr 14 20:33:53 <mircea_popescu>	i don't credit this very womanly approach to history.
Apr 14 20:34:47 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: you seem to think that the power game has one level (sexual/personal charisma.) But it really has two: the charismatic men rise to the top, and the winner ends up being the fellow who is quicker on the draw.
Apr 14 20:34:57 <mircea_popescu>	listen
Apr 14 20:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	you don't really want to kill the contenders.
Apr 14 20:35:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00068305 = 5.0546 BTC [-]
Apr 14 20:35:10 <mircea_popescu>	you'd rather burn the world and go have a drink with them.
Apr 14 20:35:23 <mircea_popescu>	you understand this ? nobody loves the wormy multitude enough to kill one good man over it.
Apr 14 20:36:24 <asciilifeform>	you don't plug your fellow top dogs for the wormy multitudes. you plug them so they don't - you. because there are only so many palaces/harems/etc. to go around.
Apr 14 20:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	nobody may be too strong a world, as insanity is a good bedfellow to exceptional performance
Apr 14 20:36:42 <mircea_popescu>	but still, generally speaking, nobody cares about the crowd.
Apr 14 20:36:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.849 BTC [+]
Apr 14 20:36:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.85 = 6.8 BTC [+]
Apr 14 20:37:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1820 @ 0.00068305 = 1.2432 BTC [-]
Apr 14 20:37:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.8549 = 4.2745 BTC [+]
Apr 14 20:37:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.855 = 1.71 BTC [+]
Apr 14 20:37:10 <mircea_popescu>	the harem scarcity is bullshit. there's currently orders of magnitude more slaves looking for masters than masters willing to take slaves.
Apr 14 20:37:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.855 = 2.565 BTC [+]
Apr 14 20:37:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.859 = 4.295 BTC [+]
Apr 14 20:37:30 <asciilifeform>	the crowd is irrelevant, except that it does seem to have a tendency to throw its support behind one guy.
Apr 14 20:37:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.86 = 1.72 BTC [+]
Apr 14 20:37:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.876 = 5.256 BTC [+]
Apr 14 20:38:03 <asciilifeform>	the fate of the triumvirate, etc.
Apr 14 20:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	the fate of the triumvirate was that pompey despised caesar.
Apr 14 20:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	public don't enter into it one whit.
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Apr 14 20:39:41 <asciilifeform>	the public (for some value of public) is who eventually swings the swords. and they would rather duke it out, with one guy coming out on top, rather than pressuring Pompey to be chums with Caesar.
Apr 14 20:40:03 <mircea_popescu>	i don;'t think they cared either way and in the end i don't think they fought for that either.
Apr 14 20:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	people always fight for some unrelated nonsense.
Apr 14 20:40:24 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: let's re-phrase the question a bit: who would you personally be content to share your throne with?
Apr 14 20:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much anyone that's not stupid.
Apr 14 20:40:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.876 BTC [+]
Apr 14 20:41:58 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: stable shared thrones is probably why Red China outlasted the USSR. but China is a bureaucratic clusterfuck rather than the virile fucktopia you envision.
Apr 14 20:42:15 <mircea_popescu>	okay, so who sat on the spartan throne ?
Apr 14 20:42:33 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: point. but I'm not certain it would scale.
Apr 14 20:42:42 <mircea_popescu>	because why not ?
Apr 14 20:43:49 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the ancients were a different kind of animal from us. they had notions of aristocracy/future-oriented behavour. vs. the tinted window crowd, for whom "I plug the other guy -> get double the gold" is the order of the day.
Apr 14 20:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	so basically the old folks are too cool for us to wear their shoes ?
Apr 14 20:44:17 <mircea_popescu>	heck of an argument you got thar.
Apr 14 20:44:19 <asciilifeform>	possibly.
Apr 14 20:44:31 <mircea_popescu>	i don't feel particularly lamer than them so.
Apr 14 20:44:56 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: perhaps you're not. but the fellows behind the tinted windows, are.
Apr 14 20:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	"get double the gold" da fuck is that. to do what, carry it luis de funes style ?
Apr 14 20:45:20 <mircea_popescu>	get moar gold but can't throw a party cause there's nobody to invite.
Apr 14 20:45:44 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: maybe the very definition of being an aristocrat is that you don't feel compelled to plug the other guys.
Apr 14 20:46:03 <asciilifeform>	see "mandate of heaven."
Apr 14 20:46:08 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps. it does come out a rather vulgar thing as reduced by our conversation.
Apr 14 20:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	nevertheless, plugging the other guy has the virtue of keeping this putative aristocracy from complacency
Apr 14 20:46:55 <asciilifeform>	yes, but you do it for jollies/education-of-the-masses-by-the-cock, not because you feel that you have to.
Apr 14 20:47:14 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps you just do it because it becomes clear the guy's a fuckwit.
Apr 14 20:47:19 <asciilifeform>	you have a point in that analysis is vulgarizing. hence "the spartan speaks with his sword."
Apr 14 20:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	maybe go the whole japanese mile and have him cut his own guts out
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Apr 14 20:50:14 <asciilifeform>	Seppuku is a bad example: the men ordered to do so generally faced the alternative of being beheaded like commoners (not to be confused with voluntary seppuku.)
Apr 14 20:50:32 <asciilifeform>	a better example: Hassan-i Sabbah
Apr 14 20:50:58 <asciilifeform>	or the Chinese emperor (forget which) who would order his front ranks to behead themselves on the start of a battle
Apr 14 20:51:02 <asciilifeform>	terrifying the enemy
Apr 14 20:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	incidentally, you ever seen l'avare ?
Apr 14 20:51:26 <asciilifeform>	nope
Apr 14 20:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	a, that's a pity. probably the best thing tyo come out of france
Apr 14 20:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	magnet:?xt=urn:btih:50c6b7a7b42d136d1dc1bc600220ba7c30e46f4d&dn=L'Avare+(1980)(L+de+Funes)DVDRip+NL+subs[Divx]NLtoppers&tr=udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80&tr=udp://tracker.publicbt.com:80&tr=udp://tracker.istole.it:6969&tr=udp://tracker.ccc.de:80
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Apr 14 20:52:37 <asciilifeform>	will look
Apr 14 20:53:14 <asciilifeform>	but yes, if you can successfully order the front ranks to self-behead, you've probably got the Mandate of Heaven.
Apr 14 20:53:22 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, not so sure sepukku is such a bad example. you have one chance to do yourself in as one of us now that you can't continue living as one of us.
Apr 14 20:53:34 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think that implication works.
Apr 14 20:54:15 <asciilifeform>	well it matters, of course, if the front rank is a thousand blue blood knights, or three bums you've collected from a boozing den.
Apr 14 20:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	no, my objection is that form is no substitute for function.
Apr 14 20:54:48 <mircea_popescu>	what people do is no proof of what people are, in this sense.
Apr 14 20:54:56 <mircea_popescu>	getting a girl to suck your cock is no proof you're loved.
Apr 14 20:55:13 <thestringpuller>	wow
Apr 14 20:55:26 <thestringpuller>	did I really just come back to "getting a girl to suck your cock is no proof you're loved.
Apr 14 20:55:30 <thestringpuller>	"
Apr 14 20:55:31 <asciilifeform>	but if she sucks with art and enthusiasm, perhaps that's all the proof one could hope for. Think Kamikazes instead of Chinese imperial auto-beheaders.
Apr 14 20:55:50 <thestringpuller>	look at you mircea_popescu droppin' some love wisdom and shit on deez homies
Apr 14 20:55:59 <asciilifeform>	did you know that only the men with top marks in flight school were initially accepted into the Tokkotai (Kamikaze corps) ?
Apr 14 20:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	yes, i did.
Apr 14 20:56:29 <asciilifeform>	so were they sucking with love?
Apr 14 20:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	even so. the subtle structure of the world remains inacessible. even if the girl does it with enthusiasm and art.
Apr 14 20:57:32 <asciilifeform>	this subtle structure would appear to be hidden from king and slave alike.
Apr 14 20:57:59 <mircea_popescu>	kinda how the entire scholar profession developped.
Apr 14 20:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	the pretense of the "educated" to access it is as fraudulent in today's cathedral as it was in the druid circle obviously.
Apr 14 20:58:52 <asciilifeform>	the scholar profession (vs scholarship per se) is really just embroidery on the fabric of society, like the palace mural-painting profession.
Apr 14 20:59:00 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
Apr 14 20:59:30 <mircea_popescu>	moreover, the original branch where we got lost is the proving.
Apr 14 20:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	there's no proof you have the mandate of heaven. nopr can ever be.
Apr 14 21:00:00 <asciilifeform>	true. and you do, until you don't.
Apr 14 21:00:13 <asciilifeform>	but I still think the abstraction is a useful one.
Apr 14 21:00:20 <mircea_popescu>	depends on the purpose.
Apr 14 21:00:38 <mircea_popescu>	global warming is a useful "abstraction" if you're using it to get a dumbass neighbour to stop smoking out your pool.
Apr 14 21:01:23 <asciilifeform>	reminds me of a tale where Chinese peasants, shortly after the red victory, calmed down upon hearing that the Emperor has returned.
Apr 14 21:01:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 646 @ 0.00068305 = 0.4413 BTC [-]
Apr 14 21:01:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 904 @ 0.00068262 = 0.6171 BTC [-]
Apr 14 21:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	this hidden-ness and the lack of systematic solutions are exactly why the "virile fucktopia" is the only solution.
Apr 14 21:02:56 <mircea_popescu>	whether it scales or not will decide how large a community can get, not whether it will be the norm or not.
Apr 14 21:04:05 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I am interested in the question of virile fucktopias because I am interested in "the science of the possible." that is, "the is" vs. the idiot "the ought" that most scholarship tends to be about.
Apr 14 21:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	i imagined.
Apr 14 21:06:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0018 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 21:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.214 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 21:29:33 <ThickAsThieves>	just watched a few min of mtv video awards, wow that channel really fell apart huh?
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Apr 14 21:32:16 <mircea_popescu>	ya, sometime in 1998
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Apr 14 21:39:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.875 = 2.625 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 21:42:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.876 = 1.752 BTC [+]
Apr 14 21:47:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00068262 = 13.5159 BTC [-]
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Apr 14 21:49:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [+]
Apr 14 21:50:17 <mod6>	$vwap s.dice
Apr 14 21:50:18 <mpexbot>	mod6: S.DICE 1 day: average: 0.00328089 high: 0.004 low: 0.00328066 volume: 3177 btc: 10.42337616 7 day: average: 0.00299325 high: 0.00409999 low: 0.0027 volume: 281669 btc: 843.10495586 30 day: average: 0.00348657 high: 0.005598 low: 0.0027 volume: 1860301 btc: 6486.07287801
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Apr 14 21:54:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.00067 = 0.0168 BTC [-]
Apr 14 21:54:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00067 = 0.0034 BTC [-]
Apr 14 21:54:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000675 = 0.0338 BTC [+]
Apr 14 21:54:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 110 @ 0.000689 = 0.0758 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 21:55:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.876 BTC [+]
Apr 14 21:56:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.879 = 4.395 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 21:57:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.8796 = 4.398 BTC [+]
Apr 14 21:59:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m S.MPOE
Apr 14 21:59:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068262 / 0.00069523 / 0.0007217 (538731 shares, 374.54 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069588 / 0.000735 (2714177 shares, 1,888.76 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068885 / 0.00077505 (10960684 shares, 7,550.28 BTC)
Apr 14 22:00:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 0.8797 = 14.9549 BTC [+]
Apr 14 22:01:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.899 = 4.495 BTC [+]
Apr 14 22:04:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89998 BTC [+]
Apr 14 22:05:12 <thestringpuller>	$vwap MPOE
Apr 14 22:05:14 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00069523 high: 0.0007217 low: 0.00068262 volume: 538731 btc: 374.54423445 7 day: average: 0.00069589 high: 0.000735 low: 0.00063322 volume: 2714177 btc: 1888.76003405 30 day: average: 0.00068885 high: 0.00077505 low: 0.00059218 volume: 10960684 btc: 7550.28122564
Apr 14 22:05:22 <thestringpuller>	$bids MPOE
Apr 14 22:05:50 <thestringpuller>	$help
Apr 14 22:05:50 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
Apr 14 22:05:58 <thestringpuller>	$help all
Apr 14 22:05:58 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: Error: There is no command "all".
Apr 14 22:06:01 <thestringpuller>	$help bids
Apr 14 22:06:01 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: Error: There is no command "bids".
Apr 14 22:06:03 <thestringpuller>	$help bid
Apr 14 22:06:03 <mpexbot>	thestringpuller: Error: There is no command "bid".
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Apr 14 22:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	$depth s.mpoe
Apr 14 22:12:43 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: S.MPOE Bids: ['5422 @ 0.00068649', '4896 @ 0.00068262', '9165 @ 0.00067807', '22800 @ 0.00067644', '32500 @ 0.00067461']
Apr 14 22:12:44 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['12133 @ 0.00069049', '10000 @ 0.0007008', '3910 @ 0.00070089', '23100 @ 0.00070285', '1250 @ 0.00070788']
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Apr 14 22:33:58 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 14 22:33:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.40118, Best ask: 95.95998, Bid-ask spread: 0.55880, Last trade: 95.48019, 24 hour volume: 156646.71403264, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 97.19479
Apr 14 22:34:26 <ThickAsThieves>	no action on gox
Apr 14 22:34:29 <ThickAsThieves>	odd
Apr 14 22:34:35 <ThickAsThieves>	calm before the storm?
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Apr 14 22:35:39 <mircea_popescu>	calm before death.
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Apr 14 22:37:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i think it might be trading, but not reporting
Apr 14 22:41:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 14 22:42:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [-]
Apr 14 22:42:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 14 22:42:30 <gribble>	62414.5078831
Apr 14 22:42:33 <ThickAsThieves>	still falling
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Apr 14 22:50:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 29 @ 0.2 = 5.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 23:11:58 <ThickAsThieves>	My suspicions somewhat verified: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77000.msg1840773#msg1840773
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Apr 14 23:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.479 BTC [+]
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Apr 14 23:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.479 = 1.916 BTC [+]
Apr 14 23:50:10 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: what suspicion?
Apr 14 23:50:30 <ThickAsThieves>	that one of the 3 asic makers is hashing on the side
Apr 14 23:50:55 <dub>	right, seems likely
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Apr 14 23:54:06 <dub>	AM have not answered any question about where teh other 6th are
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Apr 14 23:54:33 <dub>	also chinese
Apr 14 23:54:43 <ThickAsThieves>	what was his most recent timeline?
Apr 14 23:54:49 <ThickAsThieves>	about now right?
Apr 14 23:56:01 <dub>	yeah 'mid april'
Apr 14 23:56:18 <dub>	though I thin 22nd was a date for some new DC or capacity
Apr 14 23:56:27 <dub>	think*
Apr 14 23:57:00 <dub>	if I was chinese I'd be keeping half of it to myself
Apr 14 23:57:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i think anyone would
Apr 14 23:57:15 <dub>	also expecting to get shutdown at any moment
Apr 14 23:57:24 <ThickAsThieves>	all 3 are probly mining on the side
Apr 14 23:57:39 <ThickAsThieves>	avalon hashing for a month before shipping each batch
Apr 14 23:58:01 <ThickAsThieves>	BFL not assembling and just hashing away
Apr 14 23:58:08 <ThickAsThieves>	AM is the least likely imo
Apr 14 23:58:14 <ThickAsThieves>	but why not them too
Apr 14 23:58:26 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 14 23:58:27 <gribble>	62479.2972912
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Apr 14 23:58:28 <dub>	AM is most likely
Apr 14 23:58:32 <dub>	BFL lest
Apr 14 23:58:35 <dub>	least*
Apr 14 23:58:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i week ago that was 68000
Apr 14 23:58:45 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe avalons are shipping
Apr 14 23:58:50 <dub>	BFL would have to have acknowledged internally that they wont be shipping any time soon
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Apr 14 23:59:19 <ThickAsThieves>	i just cant believe BFL can be THAT bad at finishing
Apr 14 23:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1070 @ 0.00069049 = 0.7388 BTC [+]
Apr 14 23:59:32 <dub>	why not, it fits perfectly
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Apr 14 23:59:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess
Apr 14 23:59:50 <ThickAsThieves>	its rather pathetic
Apr 14 23:59:52 <dub>	the others acutally deliver then go quiet and mysteriously stop/slow rollout
Apr 15 00:00:30 <dub>	(which to chinese would be a perfectly legitimate move)
Apr 15 00:00:41 <ThickAsThieves>	AM on 3/14 "Yes. We expect late April to be fully online, but that would require we successfully get enough right employees and there's nothing unexpected during the production process."
Apr 15 00:00:48 <ThickAsThieves>	referring to the 50TH
Apr 15 00:01:57 <c1n0>	because AM aren't disgusting greedy pigs?
Apr 15 00:02:08 <c1n0>	actually not hateful people and like this stuff?
Apr 15 00:02:09 <ThickAsThieves>	on 3/22 "Next batch is at least 50TH/s, which will be assembled and available in the early or middle of next month. Before that we have to gather more employees to form a deploying team because it's nearly a magnitude larger. We also have to deploy the rest of the first batch during this period (between now and the time next batch arrives) with or without new members to the company."
Apr 15 00:02:22 <ThickAsThieves>	referring to the initial 12TH and the 50TH
Apr 15 00:02:34 <c1n0>	if they're hiring, i'm applying :P
Apr 15 00:03:16 <dub>	c1n0: they've been in posetion of 6th of dark chips for months
Apr 15 00:03:17 <c1n0>	do you have an update on their usb units?
Apr 15 00:03:25 <dub>	c1n0: citing power and network issues, its bullshit
Apr 15 00:03:40 <c1n0>	dub - so you think AM is upto something dodgy?
Apr 15 00:03:59 <ThickAsThieves>	then on 4/12 "The projected earliest date to start installing new hardware and releasing brand new hashrates is 22nd this month"
Apr 15 00:04:07 <dub>	I think its very possible they are hashing privately on the rest
Apr 15 00:04:28 <dub>	and to them it wouldnt seem dodgy
Apr 15 00:04:47 <dub>	just a tax or opportunistic windfall
Apr 15 00:06:09 <dub>	remember what they are doing is highly illegal and they would probably be executed if caught
Apr 15 00:06:26 <dub>	try to frame any ethical standard you would hold them to in that reality
Apr 15 00:06:49 <ThickAsThieves>	executed?!
Apr 15 00:06:55 <dub>	yep, its china
Apr 15 00:07:20 <dub>	you can be tried in court and executed for looking at the wrong person the wrong way
Apr 15 00:07:56 <dub>	six weeks later you'd be gettign injected into some fat americans lips
Apr 15 00:08:04 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 15 00:08:36 <dub>	prisons are connected to biotech firms over there
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Apr 15 00:09:14 <dub>	inmates are harvested for all kinds of tihngs including collagen for western beauty products
Apr 15 00:10:17 <dub>	organs etc, everything
Apr 15 00:10:38 <dub>	its not even really a secret
Apr 15 00:10:59 <dub>	just shit the west doesnt have teh stomach to widely acknowledge
Apr 15 00:11:54 <ThickAsThieves>	nasty
Apr 15 00:12:15 <ThickAsThieves>	well i dont eat meat and dont get "work" done
Apr 15 00:12:33 <ThickAsThieves>	so i should be at least safe from getting human in me
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Apr 15 00:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42399999 BTC [-]
Apr 15 00:22:21 <dub>	you might want to carefully read teh label on your sunblock
Apr 15 00:22:56 <ThickAsThieves>	cuz i leave the house once in a while?
Apr 15 00:23:04 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 15 00:23:51 <dub>	btw, I saw you endorsing that flippro guy on the forum, you shouldnt
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Apr 15 00:24:42 <dub>	he is seriously brain damaged and will probably lose peoples money
Apr 15 00:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.6 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Apr 15 00:25:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.2 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 15 00:25:52 <ThickAsThieves>	brain damaged?
Apr 15 00:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42499996 BTC [+]
Apr 15 00:27:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i think he's just a guy trying to do too much
Apr 15 00:27:16 <dub>	he's completely retarded
Apr 15 00:27:31 <dub>	lookup some old solidcoind threads
Apr 15 00:27:41 <ThickAsThieves>	he's young
Apr 15 00:28:03 <ThickAsThieves>	he paid me for my art
Apr 15 00:28:23 <ThickAsThieves>	its not like i said invest in BTCP now!
Apr 15 00:28:43 <ThickAsThieves>	just that he's real
Apr 15 00:28:53 <ThickAsThieves>	and is not likely to be a scammer
Apr 15 00:28:58 <ThickAsThieves>	doesnt mean he cant fuck shit up
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Apr 15 00:29:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i enjoyed getting my first scam accusation
Apr 15 00:29:45 <dub>	I'd reinvest with pirate before touching anything he is involved with
Apr 15 00:30:14 <dub>	srsly, never seen such retarded trolling as he did for realsolid
Apr 15 00:30:39 <dub>	did for as in, paid to by
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Apr 15 00:31:16 <ThickAsThieves>	i made cent money flipping his ipo
Apr 15 00:31:19 <ThickAsThieves>	decent*
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Apr 15 00:31:42 <ThickAsThieves>	and decent money designing a shirt
Apr 15 00:32:01 <ThickAsThieves>	and i confirm he exists and is arguably "trying"
Apr 15 00:32:21 <benkay>	who dis?
Apr 15 00:32:31 <ThickAsThieves>	thats about the extent of my endorsement
Apr 15 00:32:53 <ThickAsThieves>	BitcoinPride
Apr 15 00:32:56 <ThickAsThieves>	flippro
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Apr 15 00:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00068803 = 3.853 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 01:10:21 <BitHub>	TAT what companies do you trust atm?
Apr 15 01:10:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 32 @ 0.00371 = 0.1187 BTC [+]
Apr 15 01:11:14 <ThickAsThieves>	None
Apr 15 01:11:15 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 15 01:11:34 <ThickAsThieves>	why?
Apr 15 01:11:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 155 @ 0.003734 = 0.5788 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 01:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36500009 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 01:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00068803 = 4.2314 BTC [-]
Apr 15 01:23:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1452 @ 0.00068649 = 0.9968 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 01:28:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.89999 = 1.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 01:30:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 01:36:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5263 @ 0.00069049 = 3.634 BTC [+]
Apr 15 01:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5737 @ 0.00069774 = 4.0029 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 01:53:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3341 @ 0.00069774 = 2.3311 BTC [+]
Apr 15 01:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2254 @ 0.0006985 = 1.5744 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 01:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.475 = 2.85 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 02:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.475 = 1.425 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 02:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 13 @ 1.6 = 20.8 BTC [+]
Apr 15 02:16:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Apr 15 02:16:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.7 = 17 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 02:27:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0007008 = 7.008 BTC [+]
Apr 15 02:27:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3910 @ 0.00070089 = 2.7405 BTC [+]
Apr 15 02:27:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16690 @ 0.00070285 = 11.7306 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 02:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8 BTC [+]
Apr 15 02:29:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000689 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 02:31:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3970 @ 0.00068649 = 2.7254 BTC [-]
Apr 15 02:31:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 693 @ 0.00067807 = 0.4699 BTC [-]
Apr 15 02:31:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00222 BTC [-]
Apr 15 02:31:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 4 @ 0.00222 = 0.0089 BTC [-]
Apr 15 02:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.95 = 19.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 02:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 02:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.485 BTC [+]
Apr 15 02:48:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 02:49:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.098 = 0.392 BTC [-]
Apr 15 02:49:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 15 @ 0.097 = 1.455 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 02:55:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.00053 = 0.0016 BTC [-]
Apr 15 02:55:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00052 BTC [-]
Apr 15 02:55:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 40 @ 0.0005 = 0.02 BTC [-]
Apr 15 02:55:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 6 @ 0.00041 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 02:58:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00222 = 0.0222 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 03:12:14 <BitHub>	thinking of a term for us
Apr 15 03:12:28 <BitHub>	specy's
Apr 15 03:12:34 <BitHub>	or bit traders
Apr 15 03:12:41 <BitHub>	hehe
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Apr 15 03:24:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 840 @ 0.01 = 8.4 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 03:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.95 = 9.75 BTC [+]
Apr 15 03:45:27 <leotreasure>	;;goxlag
Apr 15 03:45:28 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.412862 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000827370825367 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
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Apr 15 04:45:47 <taub>	le rangetrade face
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Apr 15 04:46:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01005 BTC [-]
Apr 15 04:46:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01004 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 04:52:05 <taub>	http://books.google.de/books/about/Techniques_of_Tape_Reading.html?id=3FoTkE5T6swC&redir_esc=y tnis is prolly the bset trading book i know
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Apr 15 04:58:36 <punkman1>	taub, i found this oddly relevant to trading, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOCurBYI_gY
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Apr 15 05:23:46 <MJR_>	hi all
Apr 15 05:28:25 <bitesak>	hello
Apr 15 05:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 716 @ 0.00068597 = 0.4912 BTC [+]
Apr 15 05:29:05 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 15 05:29:06 <gribble>	rising to 105-108 | targets: 108, 110-113, 120, 130, 138-148, 160 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 7:45 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | 1 hour, 44 minutes, and 4 seconds ago
Apr 15 05:30:07 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 15 05:30:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.30719, Best ask: 99.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17281, Last trade: 99.48000, 24 hour volume: 142048.49443498, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 105.40000, 24 hour vwap: 95.33101
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Apr 15 05:31:33 <MJR_>	who writes up that next piece?
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Apr 15 05:33:57 <taub>	updated by OneFixt
Apr 15 05:34:27 <mircea_popescu>	what is ?
Apr 15 05:34:44 <MJR_>	;;next
Apr 15 05:34:45 <gribble>	rising to 105-108 | targets: 108, 110-113, 120, 130, 138-148, 160 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 7:45 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | 1 hour, 49 minutes, and 43 seconds ago
Apr 15 05:34:47 <MJR_>	that
Apr 15 05:35:39 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Apr 15 05:37:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.89999 = 11.6999 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 05:41:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 05:49:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2430 @ 0.00068597 = 1.6669 BTC [+]
Apr 15 05:49:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11598 @ 0.0006933 = 8.0409 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 06:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.2139 = 2.4278 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 06:23:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 20 @ 0.0018 = 0.036 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 06:26:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 45 @ 0.000689 = 0.031 BTC [+]
Apr 15 06:29:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.0006933 = 6.4477 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 06:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 852 @ 0.0006933 = 0.5907 BTC [+]
Apr 15 06:43:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1548 @ 0.0007037 = 1.0893 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 06:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.485 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 06:56:44 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 15 06:56:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.72000, Best ask: 97.77700, Bid-ask spread: 1.05700, Last trade: 96.72000, 24 hour volume: 142297.15764338, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 105.40000, 24 hour vwap: 95.29939
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Apr 15 07:06:55 <error4733>	;;eightball will btc reach 150$ this week ?
Apr 15 07:06:55 <gribble>	No.
Apr 15 07:08:39 <error4733>	;;eightball will btc reach 50$ this week ?
Apr 15 07:08:39 <gribble>	Obviously.
Apr 15 07:09:15 <mircea_popescu>	amusingly, gribble's kinda better than max keiser.
Apr 15 07:09:26 <error4733>	hahaha
Apr 15 07:10:00 <error4733>	i wish have like 100btc for fun to play with gribble
Apr 15 07:10:19 <error4733>	asking every morning and buy/sell
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Apr 15 07:13:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [-]
Apr 15 07:14:09 <mircea_popescu>	so sell your car.
Apr 15 07:23:20 <error4733>	what can i do with 12btc ?
Apr 15 07:23:55 <mircea_popescu>	so do with 12 btc
Apr 15 07:24:00 <mircea_popescu>	you saidf you wanted 100 lol
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Apr 15 07:25:07 <error4733>	yes but if i sold my car i thinks i get 12bt haha
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Apr 15 07:27:49 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 15 07:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3052 @ 0.0007037 = 2.1477 BTC [+]
Apr 15 07:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3948 @ 0.00070473 = 2.7823 BTC [+]
Apr 15 07:29:11 <Framedragger>	punkman is a rather choice pseudonym /OT
Apr 15 07:30:43 <punkman>	it is? I'm not a big fan
Apr 15 07:31:45 <Framedragger>	it simply sounds nice on one's tongue, is all
Apr 15 07:34:20 <pgp>	 prediction for today?
Apr 15 07:35:05 <taub>	75-120 :/
Apr 15 07:35:34 <pgp>	overall trend, though?
Apr 15 07:35:48 <taub>	range
Apr 15 07:35:55 <Framedragger>	and i'm trying to trade goods over coin, it hurts the brain
Apr 15 07:36:10 <pgp>	;;bids 75
Apr 15 07:36:12 <gribble>	There are currently 36500.533 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 3094909.86845 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0053 seconds
Apr 15 07:36:15 <pgp>	;;asks 125
Apr 15 07:36:16 <gribble>	There are currently 35059.129 bitcoins offered at or under 125.0 USD, worth 3926457.98079 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.9841 seconds
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Apr 15 07:36:41 <mircea_popescu>	maybe idiots behave and we have a nice slope going to 130 till summer.
Apr 15 07:37:27 <pgp>	idiots - not in their nature to behave...
Apr 15 07:37:56 <pgp>	anyway - I think short-term trend is lower myself...  need to retest bottom
Apr 15 07:38:19 <pgp>	;;eightball will we retest bottom?
Apr 15 07:38:19 <gribble>	I doubt it very much.
Apr 15 07:38:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00069569 = 7.8613 BTC [-]
Apr 15 07:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Apr 15 07:38:28 <pgp>	;;next
Apr 15 07:38:28 <gribble>	watching for another drop to 90s, then rising to 105-108 | targets: 108, 110-113, 120, 130, 138-148, 160 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 10:47  UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 51 minutes and 26 seconds ago
Apr 15 07:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. sure, retest bottom.
Apr 15 07:39:40 <pgp>	too bad puts are unavailable :-(
Apr 15 07:40:23 <error4733>	wtf is this :) ? free forecast ?
Apr 15 07:40:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.01 = 0.15 BTC [+]
Apr 15 07:40:51 <pgp>	but then again MPEX exchange membership for $1000 USD would be reward enough...
Apr 15 07:41:25 <mircea_popescu>	haha something tells me people cringing at $7500 membership a week ago are still not running to get it at 60% discount
Apr 15 07:41:37 <mircea_popescu>	just so they can cringe when it's $500k+ in a year or two.
Apr 15 07:41:54 <taub>	just 10 coins now?
Apr 15 07:42:02 <pgp>	I like it at 60%, but I like it more at 85% off
Apr 15 07:42:19 <mircea_popescu>	taub nope, 30.
Apr 15 07:42:38 <taub>	i'd take one for 10 maybe
Apr 15 07:42:41 <taub>	:P
Apr 15 07:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 15 07:42:50 <error4733>	sold mine for 15 deal ?
Apr 15 07:43:03 <mircea_popescu>	i havce no idea why people represent this in terms of them buying something.
Apr 15 07:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	it's an exam. yet another of life's exams most fail to pass.
Apr 15 07:43:17 <pgp>	lol
Apr 15 07:43:57 <error4733>	350$ was a bargain i knew it hehe
Apr 15 07:44:01 <pgp>	I think that model is correct.
Apr 15 07:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	when you go to get your degree you are basically paying a fee for this priviledge, equal to the value of your time you put into making the papers
Apr 15 07:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	(not the time spent learning, the time spent making the proofs that you'cve learned)
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Apr 15 07:44:52 <pgp>	non-trivial up front fee for exchange membership (which should be limited to non-idiots), but also low marginal costs for trading...
Apr 15 07:45:10 <mircea_popescu>	yeh.
Apr 15 07:45:41 <pgp>	idiots go to members to trade, where fees get marked up but no upfront fee - it's how it work irl
Apr 15 07:45:53 <mircea_popescu>	and hopefulyl they get some sense/advice in the package.
Apr 15 07:46:05 <pgp>	not that MPEX isn't real life...
Apr 15 07:46:06 <mircea_popescu>	making it better for everyone involved.
Apr 15 07:46:55 <pgp>	yep
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Apr 15 07:54:44 <mircea_popescu>	of course there's a lot of friction to the model, but
Apr 15 07:54:54 <mircea_popescu>	i think it shall prevail.
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Apr 15 07:58:51 <pgp>	well, it could be marketed better...
Apr 15 08:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps.
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Apr 15 08:02:55 <unbalanced_>	Agreed, I think you're just one $15 home page template away from being at the top of everyone's lists when it comes to BTC assets.
Apr 15 08:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	there is a problem of growthspeed which is not too well understood, especially not by the average (which is to say business illiterate) entrepreneur these days.
Apr 15 08:03:11 <mircea_popescu>	take the case of the twelve year old as an illustrative example.
Apr 15 08:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	the surest way for her NOT being a successful fotomodel at 19 is if her tits grow too fast.
Apr 15 08:03:33 <unbalanced_>	True, getting growth right is non-trivial.
Apr 15 08:03:40 <mircea_popescu>	stretchmarks are actually worse than no growth at all.
Apr 15 08:04:13 <unbalanced_>	Aw I said true before I knew we were going to sextown.
Apr 15 08:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ everyone, as in, the people who took btc to 260 when i told them not to go over 130 ? why does one want this everyone muddling throuhg ?
Apr 15 08:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ haha, does sextown bother you ?
Apr 15 08:04:46 <taub>	mpex has the highest volume in bitcoin stocks already doesnt it?
Apr 15 08:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	last i looked, yes.
Apr 15 08:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	even so i am more worried by things such as sdice going to 75 then to 29 for no apparent reason
Apr 15 08:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	than with growing market share.
Apr 15 08:05:39 <unbalanced_>	I want to see bitcoin and sophisticated discussion of BTC assets get more widespread. This channel is the best their is but cuts off half the population.
Apr 15 08:05:45 <Bugpowder>	sdice valuation was betting volume related
Apr 15 08:05:47 <taub>	why would price movement worry u
Apr 15 08:05:59 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder maybe, yeah.
Apr 15 08:06:12 <Bugpowder>	at .0075 it was undervalued
Apr 15 08:06:18 <mircea_popescu>	taub because volatility and investment are roughly speaking inversely correlated.
Apr 15 08:06:27 <Bugpowder>	when 20,000BTC profit per month
Apr 15 08:06:46 <taub>	never heard that before mp
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Apr 15 08:06:56 <mircea_popescu>	let me illustrate this point, and i won't even use tits.
Apr 15 08:06:58 <taub>	i mean your job should be to run the exchange, not really worry about volatility
Apr 15 08:07:02 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE moves like a biotech
Apr 15 08:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	consider a town, and consider the mob moves in.
Apr 15 08:07:19 <mircea_popescu>	now, with the mob there comes sudden and striong social mobility, and also a bunch of murders.
Apr 15 08:07:38 <mircea_popescu>	in spite of it being mostly the mobsters who are getting murdered, it is the peasants who move out of the town, and the mobsters who move in.
Apr 15 08:07:51 <unbalanced_>	I respect the math/investment opinions, so I'm not going anywhere. I could just do without you playing to the mentality of teenage boys while you simultaneously express distaste for unsophisticated noobs (a high proportion of which are likely that same demographic).
Apr 15 08:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	huge volatility is exactly the same : in spite of the fact it mostly burns the speculators,
Apr 15 08:08:02 <mircea_popescu>	it is the investors it repels and the speculators it attracts.
Apr 15 08:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ the sexual barrier is there to repel the unthinking adults, not to cater to the teenagers.
Apr 15 08:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	grosso modo if you're spending any part of your day in a place where you can't peruse porn you don't belong here anyway.
Apr 15 08:09:06 <unbalanced_>	Anywhoo, I'm saying I agree that MPEX is the biggest and the best game in town. I'd like more people to know about it and I think the site is not just unattractive, it prevents people from taking it seriously.
Apr 15 08:09:22 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ why do you think that ?
Apr 15 08:09:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00069476 = 2.0843 BTC [-]
Apr 15 08:10:01 <pgp>	the public should be going to coinbr - not MPEX
Apr 15 08:10:15 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i think perhaps you have a good point there, it does move like a biotech
Apr 15 08:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	maybe i'm overstating my herd concerns as personal bias.
Apr 15 08:10:53 <Bugpowder>	Oh look a whale is betting again with a big address = positive clinical trial result
Apr 15 08:11:15 <mircea_popescu>	or fda comment or w/e.
Apr 15 08:11:20 <Bugpowder>	yah
Apr 15 08:11:25 <unbalanced_>	As a motivated options trader actively looking for a solution to trade options on Bitcoin, it took me about a year and umpteen visits to mpex.co to grok it and get over the 1995 layout and titties and harsh attitude.
Apr 15 08:11:28 <mircea_popescu>	i was thinking more like irl mining
Apr 15 08:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	but it's all the same
Apr 15 08:11:31 <unbalanced_>	I totally respect the tech tho
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Apr 15 08:11:43 <unbalanced_>	It's elegant, and well done.
Apr 15 08:11:51 <Bugpowder>	It's revenue stream is very very top heavy
Apr 15 08:12:02 <Bugpowder>	just like a biotech
Apr 15 08:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	or a gold mine etc.
Apr 15 08:12:29 <Bugpowder>	oh gold… 1400?
Apr 15 08:12:34 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 15 08:12:40 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Apr 15 08:12:41 <mircea_popescu>	this in spite of the utah mine collapse.
Apr 15 08:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	i think they;'ve sold the cyprus gold on the market.
Apr 15 08:12:50 <Bugpowder>	yah I saw that pic
Apr 15 08:12:57 <unbalanced_>	I hate seeing these articles now where people are discussing plans for trading options on bitcoin and MPEX isn't even mentioned. That's all I'm getting at, let's get them to notice what you've built here.
Apr 15 08:13:02 <Bugpowder>	where do you think the bottom?
Apr 15 08:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	probably the best tiem to buy gold this year
Apr 15 08:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ what articles be those ?
Apr 15 08:13:23 <pgp>	if it break 1350, look out below..
Apr 15 08:13:36 <mircea_popescu>	pgp it's funny but i think gold is doing a bitcoin.
Apr 15 08:14:33 <pgp>	lol
Apr 15 08:15:44 <pgp>	overtime, bticoin will get some of the money that people would otherwise invest in gold...
Apr 15 08:15:49 <pgp>	obviously
Apr 15 08:15:59 <jcpham>	fed shorting gold
Apr 15 08:16:13 <mircea_popescu>	i think over time it will get most.
Apr 15 08:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, unbalanced_, people (like for instance MtGox) were discussing plans to trade options on bitcoins back this time in 2011, and mpex wasn't even mentioned.
Apr 15 08:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	if it were something  anyone could do i wouldn't even have bothered doing it myself.
Apr 15 08:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	the barrier to entry however is a lot higher than getting a bunch of people talking.
Apr 15 08:17:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
Apr 15 08:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.36500015 = 1.095 BTC [+]
Apr 15 08:19:26 <unbalanced_>	mircea_popescu: finally found a link: http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/04/11/coinsetter-the-newest-bitcoin-forex-seeks-a-niche-in-the-wild-market/
Apr 15 08:19:28 <unbalanced_>	"The New-York based startup seeks to bring to market advanced trading options that don’t exist in the current BTC market."
Apr 15 08:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.36500014 = 0.73 BTC [-]
Apr 15 08:20:03 <ezdiy>	options part is super easy
Apr 15 08:20:16 <ezdiy>	margin, on the other hand is super hard
Apr 15 08:20:18 <unbalanced_>	Coinsetter may never pull it off, they could be full of fail.
Apr 15 08:20:28 <ezdiy>	because you need cover collateral for slippage
Apr 15 08:20:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 15 08:20:33 <ezdiy>	margin calls are not 100%
Apr 15 08:20:35 <unbalanced_>	Meanwhile I think we'd all benefit from more liquidity and participants in MPEX.
Apr 15 08:21:14 <ezdiy>	how do i margin trade on mpex?
Apr 15 08:21:29 <taub>	mpex needs more users so it can start offering more competitive option prices
Apr 15 08:21:34 <unbalanced_>	I just want to broaden the base of MPEX users, I don't mean to be trollin'.
Apr 15 08:21:38 <taub>	right now it's lacking stupid investors
Apr 15 08:21:54 <taub>	thats why mp has to set option prices so high
Apr 15 08:22:03 <ezdiy>	anyone can issue options
Apr 15 08:22:11 <taub>	yea but nobody really bothers
Apr 15 08:22:12 <ezdiy>	as long they have capital to back it
Apr 15 08:22:14 <taub>	except mp
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Apr 15 08:22:27 <taub>	and partly because of lack of users i'd imagine
Apr 15 08:22:50 <ezdiy>	taub: anyone except the exchange should issue options i think :)
Apr 15 08:23:49 <ezdiy>	in the long run, i think traditional forex instruments are not really aplicable to bitcoin
Apr 15 08:23:49 <pgp>	a lot of talk from coinsetter
Apr 15 08:24:06 <ezdiy>	and some new ones will have to be invented
Apr 15 08:24:13 <jcpham>	how will it not just turn into a bucket shop
Apr 15 08:24:20 <jcpham>	especially with the margin trading
Apr 15 08:24:27 <ezdiy>	yeah
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Apr 15 08:24:42 <jcpham>	wouldn't that be the most profitable enterprise?
Apr 15 08:24:49 <ezdiy>	bucket shop is legit
Apr 15 08:24:52 <ezdiy>	IF youre transparent
Apr 15 08:24:56 <pgp>	the thing about the higher progile companies in america is that they need to be mindful of likely regulation.
Apr 15 08:24:58 <ezdiy>	if you have "magical unicorn engine"
Apr 15 08:25:02 <ezdiy>	thats totally not transparent
Apr 15 08:25:04 <jcpham>	you have a good point
Apr 15 08:25:27 <pgp>	coinsetter puts out all these press relesses about margin lending, which by the way, isn't rocket science...
Apr 15 08:25:35 <ezdiy>	some people think bucket shops are bad because it has no impact on actual market
Apr 15 08:25:38 <ezdiy>	wrong
Apr 15 08:25:43 <ezdiy>	people will try to manipulate price on mtgox
Apr 15 08:25:49 <ezdiy>	in favor of their option bets :)
Apr 15 08:25:52 <pgp>	but I'm not sure how they'll get around usuary laws in US...
Apr 15 08:25:56 <taub>	i'm not sure if it IS a buckt shop
Apr 15 08:26:00 <taub>	or just an actual exchange
Apr 15 08:26:04 <pgp>	max rate you can charge is 24%
Apr 15 08:26:14 <pgp>	margin goes for 10x that on bitfinex
Apr 15 08:26:16 <taub>	real trading runs on margin as well and isn't a bucketshop
Apr 15 08:26:21 <ezdiy>	taub: bucket shop means youre using spot price of different exchange than your own
Apr 15 08:26:22 <jcpham>	i kinda think if your position is large enough (on margin) and coinsetter can take advantage of it, it will
Apr 15 08:26:32 <taub>	i konw ezdiy
Apr 15 08:26:44 <taub>	is that what coinsetter wants to do?
Apr 15 08:26:51 <ezdiy>	no idea
Apr 15 08:26:54 <jcpham>	but mebbe thasa goos thing
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Apr 15 08:26:58 <ezdiy>	there are strong laws in US against bucket shops
Apr 15 08:26:59 <ezdiy>	so i doubt it
Apr 15 08:27:04 <taub>	ah
Apr 15 08:27:04 <ezdiy>	they'll most likely run full exchange
Apr 15 08:27:09 <taub>	I thought this was about coinsetter ;)
Apr 15 08:27:27 <ezdiy>	(mpex is actually a bucket shop btw :)
Apr 15 08:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ well... so silicon angle doesn't do research. i had no idea they existed.
Apr 15 08:27:33 <jcpham>	hahaha
Apr 15 08:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	that piece looks like it cost a hundred bux. im not quite into giving obscure venues money for this "service" yet.
Apr 15 08:27:48 <ezdiy>	though i think bucket shops are legit in .ro so no issue here
Apr 15 08:28:05 <pgp>	running a full exchange in US is a risky proposition, in my view
Apr 15 08:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	<ezdiy> how do i margin trade on mpex? << you apply for it.
Apr 15 08:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	you get it if you are high volume and trustworthy.
Apr 15 08:28:25 <pgp>	as well as acting as a broker to public
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Apr 15 08:28:39 <jcpham>	free pokemon credits for everyone!
Apr 15 08:28:47 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: does not sound too open
Apr 15 08:28:55 <mircea_popescu>	<ezdiy> bucket shop is legit << mno.
Apr 15 08:29:15 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: but i guess you have a liquidity problem so you cant force liquidate positions
Apr 15 08:29:20 <ezdiy>	due to enormous slippage
Apr 15 08:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	pgp people like coinsetter are part of a lengthy tradition of dunning-kruger. the controlling example is one kludge, an out of work bank clerk who figured himself a banker
Apr 15 08:29:56 <mircea_popescu>	lost the house.
Apr 15 08:29:59 <ezdiy>	either way, you dont need trust to margin trade
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Apr 15 08:30:14 <ezdiy>	just enough liquidity to have working margin calls
Apr 15 08:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy no, it's designed specifically to keep people like you out actually.
Apr 15 08:30:38 <ezdiy>	huh?
Apr 15 08:30:42 <mircea_popescu>	you read me.
Apr 15 08:30:44 <pgp>	ezdiy: yes
Apr 15 08:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	clueless internet warriors who have definitive answers to things they read on wikipedia. i don't want to empower you folks.
Apr 15 08:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	you cock things up.
Apr 15 08:31:08 <ezdiy>	hehe
Apr 15 08:31:35 <mircea_popescu>	go get in the wot, spend a year or more making sense, trade many many thousands of btc on mpex
Apr 15 08:31:40 <mircea_popescu>	then maybe i'll margin you.
Apr 15 08:32:08 <ezdiy>	i see
Apr 15 08:32:19 <jcpham>	http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/opinion/sunday/the-rise-of-the-new-groupthink.html
Apr 15 08:32:19 <ezdiy>	basically margin trading is loans
Apr 15 08:32:29 <jcpham>	loans are basically gifts
Apr 15 08:32:31 <ezdiy>	in here because there is no other way
Apr 15 08:32:35 <jcpham>	in bitcoinland
Apr 15 08:32:51 <ezdiy>	jcpham: supposedly not if you wot
Apr 15 08:32:57 <jcpham>	bullshit
Apr 15 08:33:14 <jcpham>	wot gets gamed also
Apr 15 08:33:32 <jcpham>	the people that borrow btc time and time again fail to repay
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Apr 15 08:33:37 <jcpham>	regardless of reputation
Apr 15 08:33:58 <ezdiy>	well, apparently past reputation guarantees future reputation according to mircea_popescu
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Apr 15 08:34:21 <jcpham>	mircea_popescu operates by his own made-up rules
Apr 15 08:34:31 <jcpham>	everyone is living in walled castles at this point
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Apr 15 08:35:08 <jcpham>	don't loan your coins though for btc-only
Apr 15 08:35:12 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy past reputation is the way to go.
Apr 15 08:35:17 <Bugpowder>	don't loan your coins
Apr 15 08:35:19 <jcpham>	you may never see it again. insert fiat clause
Apr 15 08:35:22 <Bugpowder>	ever ever ever
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Apr 15 08:37:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00070473 = 3.7351 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 08:38:49 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham you know for the record i've not yet had problems with margined ppl.
Apr 15 08:39:30 <jcpham>	probably becuase your elitist attitude keeps away the trash?
Apr 15 08:39:40 <jcpham>	which is good
Apr 15 08:40:18 <ezdiy>	white trash means liquidity
Apr 15 08:40:23 <mircea_popescu>	does not.
Apr 15 08:40:25 <ezdiy>	look at mtgox compared to mpex
Apr 15 08:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	this is not fast food. nobody wants the poor.
Apr 15 08:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	there's a reason the concept of "underbanked" exists.
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Apr 15 08:41:17 <jcpham>	i bet vetting people with a large fee to play has been successful
Apr 15 08:41:21 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: so let me get this straight
Apr 15 08:41:22 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham if you only deal with peopel who understand the value of reputation you're more likely to survive for sure.
Apr 15 08:41:39 <mircea_popescu>	consider the situation of a supermarket. if you open one in africa you will have a bunch of shoplifters.
Apr 15 08:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	if you open one in manhattan nobody's going to bother.
Apr 15 08:41:59 <jcpham>	did you just call the internet africa?
Apr 15 08:42:00 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: if someone gets you 1000BTC, and you'll hold it as a guarantee
Apr 15 08:42:07 <jcpham>	or is the bitcoin community africa?
Apr 15 08:42:10 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: then hes trusted?
Apr 15 08:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham the internet largely is africa, yes.
Apr 15 08:42:15 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy nope.
Apr 15 08:42:25 <jcpham>	i can understand the referece
Apr 15 08:42:35 <jcpham>	lots of aids
Apr 15 08:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 15 08:43:36 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu's margin loans are very different than most BTC loans though, in that it is an accounting that is kept on servers he controls.  Thus, the receiver has little opportunity to steal the coins and walk.  If you loan coins and that hits the receiver's personal wallet.dat, you are just praying they come back.
Apr 15 08:43:50 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: true, in case of 1KBTC i'd have my own doubts regarding your put-call parity :)
Apr 15 08:43:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is true, mpex margin is quite different from most loan ops.
Apr 15 08:44:13 <jcpham>	seems like the funds would stay internal
Apr 15 08:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy you know, there have been 10k btc single orders on mpex.
Apr 15 08:44:20 <jcpham>	anyway to "steal them"
Apr 15 08:44:28 <jcpham>	blockchain steal?
Apr 15 08:44:39 <jcpham>	it isn't stolen until the blockchain says fuck you
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Apr 15 08:44:56 <unbalanced_>	mircea_popescu: I concede. It's rude of me to walk into your house and criticize your wallpaper and the art on the walls.
Apr 15 08:44:56 <unbalanced_>	I just wanted MPEX to be more popular, but I get now that a) that
Apr 15 08:44:56 <unbalanced_>	is not necessarily a good thing, and
Apr 15 08:44:56 <unbalanced_>	b) it's growing exactly as fast as you want it to. If you want it to grow faster or slower, you know what to do better than I.
Apr 15 08:44:57 <unbalanced_>	New topic: the bot's option pricing algo. Is that a secret? Does it have to be?
Apr 15 08:45:06 <mircea_popescu>	unbalanced_ im not offended or anything
Apr 15 08:45:12 <Bugpowder>	Rule 23
Apr 15 08:45:12 <Bugpowder>	http://mpex.co/faq.html#23
Apr 15 08:45:20 <jcpham>	nah unbalanced_ he likes criticism
Apr 15 08:45:28 <jcpham>	loves it
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Apr 15 08:45:43 <mircea_popescu>	i don't mind it, especialyl if it makes sense.
Apr 15 08:46:03 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. the bot's pricing algo is proprietary, yes. i don't see why it wouldn't be.
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Apr 15 08:46:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10417 @ 0.0006988 = 7.2794 BTC [-]
Apr 15 08:46:45 <ezdiy>	transparency ftw
Apr 15 08:46:48 <ezdiy>	hello bitcoinica :)
Apr 15 08:46:53 <unbalanced_>	Did the algo actually change mid-month, or did the spreads just widen due to volatility, still using the existing algo?
Apr 15 08:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	the algo didn't change.
Apr 15 08:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	the bot however went berserk basically.
Apr 15 08:47:33 <mircea_popescu>	mostly the drop triggered what looks more like safety than actual pricing assumptions
Apr 15 08:48:56 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, i'd love to stay and chat but i'm due in some meetings. we continue later.
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Apr 15 09:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.2139 = 4.8556 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 09:03:21 <deadweasel_work>	;;next
Apr 15 09:03:22 <gribble>	watching for another drop to low 90s, then re-evaluating ask depth and targets | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 10:47  UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 16 minutes, and 20 seconds ago
Apr 15 09:06:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58 @ 0.00070473 = 0.0409 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 09:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.485 = 1.455 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 09:24:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00070788 = 0.8849 BTC [+]
Apr 15 09:24:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4134 @ 0.00070848 = 2.9289 BTC [+]
Apr 15 09:24:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5066 @ 0.00071 = 3.5969 BTC [+]
Apr 15 09:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 36 @ 0.485 = 17.46 BTC [+]
Apr 15 09:30:21 <lippoper1>	;;ticker
Apr 15 09:30:22 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.97801, Best ask: 96.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.02099, Last trade: 96.97801, 24 hour volume: 139162.02515050, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 94.77353
Apr 15 09:30:25 <lippoper1>	;;asks 0
Apr 15 09:30:26 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 0.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 91.0591 seconds
Apr 15 09:30:31 <lippoper1>	;;bids 0
Apr 15 09:30:31 <gribble>	There are currently 43723736 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14483375.3202 USD in total. | Data vintage: 96.4113 seconds
Apr 15 09:30:52 <lippoper1>	;;asks 9999999
Apr 15 09:30:52 <gribble>	There are currently 129652.19 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999.0 USD, worth 167037264.711 USD in total. | Data vintage: 117.6040 seconds
Apr 15 09:31:08 <lippoper1>	demand seems an all time high
Apr 15 09:31:10 <lippoper1>	?
Apr 15 09:32:17 <lippoper1>	i kid :-)
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Apr 15 09:32:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 451 @ 0.01 = 4.51 BTC [+]
Apr 15 09:33:38 <lippoper1>	going up some
Apr 15 09:33:41 <lippoper1>	;;ticker
Apr 15 09:33:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.05008, Best ask: 97.59899, Bid-ask spread: 0.54891, Last trade: 97.05007, 24 hour volume: 139241.84612092, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 94.77476
Apr 15 09:34:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5542 @ 0.00070751 = 3.921 BTC [-]
Apr 15 09:34:26 <jcpham>	http://www.247btc.com/bitcoins/134/how-i-would-manipulate-the-bitcoin-exchange-market-and-how-a-discrete-double-auction-could-stop-me/
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Apr 15 09:37:14 <MJR_>	bitcoinity looks prettier than usual
Apr 15 09:37:25 <MJR_>	is that just a simple moving average or a standard deviation?
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Apr 15 09:40:14 <MJR_>	i guess its min/max value
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Apr 15 09:42:45 <lippoper1>	yeah, it's the bid/ask range
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Apr 15 09:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1.2139 = 6.0695 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 09:56:48 <jcpham>	http://scarcecapital.com/hft/about.html
Apr 15 09:57:17 <unbalanced_>	jcpham, anyone: Do you think a double auction exchnage as in the 247btc.com link above would get traction?
Apr 15 09:57:35 <jcpham>	based on what has been hapopening at gox
Apr 15 09:57:48 <jcpham>	some form of implementation might get a lot of traction
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Apr 15 10:00:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.845 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 10:00:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.855 = 7.695 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 10:03:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00071 = 3.337 BTC [+]
Apr 15 10:05:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.855 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 10:05:47 <taub>	 we believe that not only does high frequency trading not contribute to that purpose, but the way exchanges currently operate leaves the doors open for major manipulation.
Apr 15 10:05:50 <taub>	that's bs
Apr 15 10:06:14 <taub>	hft does contribute, but you can't even hft on any bitcoin exchaneg so i dont know why people keep bitching
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Apr 15 10:09:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00071 = 0.8165 BTC [+]
Apr 15 10:10:13 <Scrat>	taub: what made me laugh is that in that "we are mtgox" reddit, a lot of people were like "please block the hft bots"
Apr 15 10:10:19 <Scrat>	so many clueless idiots
Apr 15 10:10:40 <Scrat>	apaprently hft is 0.1 trade per second with 400 ms gateway latency now
Apr 15 10:11:04 <taub>	yea...
Apr 15 10:11:07 <ThickAsThieves>	I think it's just semantics to most
Apr 15 10:11:15 <troc>	is it because they read http://www.nanex.net/Research/CQSCap/CQSCap.html ?
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Apr 15 10:11:18 <ThickAsThieves>	generally against bots of any kind
Apr 15 10:11:36 <ThickAsThieves>	the actual frequency isn't the issue
Apr 15 10:11:55 <Scrat>	its pretty evident by now that the gox "engine" does a linear scan of all orders (lol) and that takes around a second
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Apr 15 10:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36500018 BTC [+]
Apr 15 10:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.366 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 10:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.66 = 8.3 BTC [-]
Apr 15 10:46:15 <pgp>	awfully quiet in here...  and at mtgox...
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Apr 15 10:56:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00071 = 2.556 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 11:11:08 <BitHub>	!help
Apr 15 11:11:09 <assbot>	List of commands:
Apr 15 11:11:10 <assbot>	!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
Apr 15 11:11:11 <assbot>	!last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
Apr 15 11:11:12 <assbot>	!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Apr 15 11:11:13 <assbot>	!rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
Apr 15 11:11:14 <assbot>	!exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
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Apr 15 11:11:26 <BitHub>	!exchanges
Apr 15 11:11:29 <taub>	http://images.4chan.org/pol/src/1366037118988.png :D
Apr 15 11:11:35 <taub>	#nohomo
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Apr 15 11:11:58 <BitHub>	!ticker
Apr 15 11:11:59 <assbot>	Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
Apr 15 11:12:19 <BitHub>	!mpex
Apr 15 11:12:36 <BitHub>	!ticker mpex
Apr 15 11:12:37 <assbot>	Your actions are useless.
Apr 15 11:12:41 <Scrat>	^
Apr 15 11:12:43 <BitHub>	pos
Apr 15 11:13:12 <BitHub>	cant anyone just do a simple readable asset ticker?
Apr 15 11:13:15 <BitHub>	i'll pay
Apr 15 11:14:11 <Namworld>	?
Apr 15 11:14:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.2 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 15 11:15:05 <Namworld>	I have my spreadsheet tools, should be able to fetch all data you need
Apr 15 11:15:16 <Namworld>	although the ticket thing ain't that hard to do
Apr 15 11:15:27 <Namworld>	!ticker MPEX S.DICE
Apr 15 11:15:28 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00328066 / 0.00328088 / 0.004 (3177 shares, 10.42 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00299526 / 0.00409999 (274814 shares, 823.14 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00345678 / 0.005598 (1827298 shares, 6,316.58 BTC)
Apr 15 11:15:38 <BitHub>	thanks nam
Apr 15 11:15:40 <BitHub>	i'll check it out
Apr 15 11:16:01 <Namworld>	!ticker HAVELOCK SDICE
Apr 15 11:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.36500009 / 0.3928556 / 0.42700000 (18 shares, 7.07140088 BTC), 7D: 0.12500000 / 0.31864108 / 0.42700000 (2182 shares, 695.27483395 BTC), 30D: 0.12500000 / 0.37594388 / 0.56789999 (7613 shares, 2862.06078669 BTC)
Apr 15 11:16:10 <Namworld>	Easy, just a bit long to use
Apr 15 11:16:12 <BitHub>	why cant i just type !ticker Mpex and get a list of all the assets
Apr 15 11:16:39 <Namworld>	because it would put lots of stuff in the chat
Apr 15 11:16:43 <troc>	because that only works for mpex, others could cause a flood ?
Apr 15 11:16:44 <Namworld>	Use https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140427.0
Apr 15 11:16:55 <BitHub>	okey thanks
Apr 15 11:17:08 <BitHub>	i don't know why its not featured in #bitcoin-market but okey
Apr 15 11:17:27 <Namworld>	You can use the formulas to fetch data using the APIs of various exchanges
Apr 15 11:17:46 <Namworld>	on a google spreadsheet
Apr 15 11:17:50 <BitHub>	i need to check your site, its been a while :)
Apr 15 11:18:03 <Namworld>	my site? Which one?
Apr 15 11:18:09 <BitHub>	with teh alarm
Apr 15 11:18:45 <Namworld>	http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/
Apr 15 11:23:15 <BitHub>	feel like making one for me for .5btc? heh
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Apr 15 11:24:24 <BitHub>	bbs
Apr 15 11:26:18 <MJR_>	i thought kakobrekla had a ticker service already?
Apr 15 11:26:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.88 = 8.8 BTC [+]
Apr 15 11:26:43 <error4733>	;;ticker m s.dice
Apr 15 11:26:43 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Apr 15 11:26:51 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 15 11:26:52 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00328066 / 0.00328088 / 0.004 (3177 shares, 10.42 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00299526 / 0.00409999 (274814 shares, 823.14 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00345678 / 0.005598 (1827298 shares, 6,316.58 BTC)
Apr 15 11:26:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89998 BTC [+]
Apr 15 11:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.2139 BTC [-]
Apr 15 11:28:04 <BitHub>	heh
Apr 15 11:28:11 <BitHub>	where mjr_
Apr 15 11:28:19 <BitHub>	i checked the website but nothing
Apr 15 11:28:21 <MJR_>	not sure, that's what someone recommended to me before
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Apr 15 11:28:50 <BitHub>	i need to track my portfolio
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Apr 15 11:35:14 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 15 11:35:16 <gribble>	63165.9465183
Apr 15 11:35:31 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 15 11:35:32 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 8898397.1525 based on data since last change | 8824046.14459 based on data for last three days
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Apr 15 11:41:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00070521 = 1.1283 BTC [-]
Apr 15 11:43:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10179 BTC [+]
Apr 15 11:43:40 <Namworld>	[11:28] <BitHub> i need to track my portfolio
Apr 15 11:43:45 <Namworld>	Use my darn tools
Apr 15 11:44:01 <BitHub>	hehe okey
Apr 15 11:44:06 <BitHub>	link
Apr 15 11:44:12 <BitHub>	i'll send a tip
Apr 15 11:44:13 <Namworld>	I linked already
Apr 15 11:44:21 <BitHub>	ahh check going now
Apr 15 11:44:24 <Namworld>	[11:16] <Namworld> Use https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140427.0
Apr 15 11:44:33 <BitHub>	oh yeah i was just there
Apr 15 11:45:32 <Namworld>	Makes something like this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGFKVlAtZVAzOGNqS1Brd05MUlFlT2c
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Apr 15 11:45:45 <Namworld>	BitFunder needs manual updating tho, no API yet
Apr 15 11:45:57 <Namworld>	and MPEx sharecount too, as there's no API for accounts
Apr 15 11:46:08 <Namworld>	But prices for MPEx can update live at least
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Apr 15 11:46:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.88 = 2.64 BTC [-]
Apr 15 11:46:40 <Namworld>	Other than that, it can track BTCT.co, Havelock, BTC address balances
Apr 15 11:46:59 <Namworld>	and also convert the whole BTC value to USD using MtGox weighted average
Apr 15 11:47:03 <BitHub>	yeah nam i wanted bf as well :(
Apr 15 11:47:04 <Namworld>	or whatever
Apr 15 11:47:14 <Namworld>	yeah, they should have an API soon
Apr 15 11:47:31 <Namworld>	But anyway, for now it still works nicely for most of a portfolio
Apr 15 11:47:40 <BitHub>	that's very cool man
Apr 15 11:47:50 <BitHub>	btc-bond is your asset yeh?
Apr 15 11:48:12 <Namworld>	yeah
Apr 15 11:49:21 <pgp>	volume in mkt is gone...  REALLY quiet...
Apr 15 11:49:33 <Namworld>	yeah
Apr 15 11:49:47 <Namworld>	demand is gone... but most don't want to sell yet
Apr 15 11:50:12 <Namworld>	since price doesn't go up, I expect demand from speculators to drop and ones still holding to start selling as prices slowly go down
Apr 15 11:50:23 <Namworld>	and reach a bottom in a few months
Apr 15 11:50:24 <BitHub>	going to play with this nam, thanks i'll send you a tip when finished
Apr 15 11:50:31 <Namworld>	okay
Apr 15 11:50:41 <pgp>	yeah...
Apr 15 11:51:06 <pgp>	not a good sign...  definately further to go down...
Apr 15 11:51:08 <Bugpowder>	Namworld: Yep...  prices will hover for a few more days
Apr 15 11:51:10 <Namworld>	I could share the spreadsheet so you have make a copy, BitHub
Apr 15 11:51:16 <Bugpowder>	but as people lose hope... down it goes
Apr 15 11:51:19 <Bugpowder>	just like last time
Apr 15 11:51:28 <Bugpowder>	Bottom at $15-30
Apr 15 11:51:44 <pgp>	prolly
Apr 15 11:51:52 <Namworld>	I say 10-30 personally
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Apr 15 11:52:03 <Bugpowder>	I don't see it getting under 15
Apr 15 11:52:03 <Namworld>	10 with a rebound possibly
Apr 15 11:52:12 <Namworld>	for a short while
Apr 15 11:52:13 <Bugpowder>	it was really stable at 15 for a long time
Apr 15 11:52:17 <Namworld>	yeah
Apr 15 11:52:19 <Scrat>	~40 for me, but wtf do I know
Apr 15 11:52:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.0007054 = 0.8818 BTC [+]
Apr 15 11:52:28 <Namworld>	I'm sad I had most of my BTC value in my portfolio couldn't sell all at the top
Apr 15 11:52:36 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 266/33*2
Apr 15 11:52:36 <gribble>	16.1212121212
Apr 15 11:52:39 <Namworld>	still sold 100 at 250
Apr 15 11:52:43 <Namworld>	just before crash
Apr 15 11:52:46 <pgp>	$32-$35 imo
Apr 15 11:53:02 <Namworld>	and 100 more at $80 just after MtGox reopened
Apr 15 11:53:04 <Bugpowder>	top to bottom of the last crash, scaled for this crash says $16.12 is the bottom.
Apr 15 11:53:20 <Namworld>	I didn't manage to grab back some low BTCs in the 60s before it bounced back
Apr 15 11:53:32 <Namworld>	I wanted to resell at 100
Apr 15 11:53:49 <Namworld>	Well now I'm sitting out for a few weeks
Apr 15 11:53:52 <Bugpowder>	Gold down to $1355.
Apr 15 11:54:11 <Namworld>	O.o
Apr 15 11:54:18 <Namworld>	wow, that goes down fast...
Apr 15 11:54:18 <pgp>	fuck
Apr 15 11:54:35 <Bugpowder>	Silver $23
Apr 15 11:54:40 <Namworld>	...
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Apr 15 11:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.94 BTC [+]
Apr 15 11:55:06 <Bugpowder>	Sold my sprint on the pop this morning @ 7.29
Apr 15 11:55:10 <pgp>	1376 right now
Apr 15 11:55:12 <Bugpowder>	was in at 2.53 on that one
Apr 15 11:55:30 <Bugpowder>	I just can't think of any asset class that is undervalued right now
Apr 15 11:55:40 <pgp>	i agree
Apr 15 11:55:41 <Bugpowder>	maybe european stocks and some US realestate
Apr 15 11:55:56 <pgp>	FED bubble
Apr 15 11:56:16 <pgp>	it will end in tears
Apr 15 11:56:17 <Bugpowder>	Krugman bubble
Apr 15 11:56:33 <Bugpowder>	It will pop and Krugman will say we didn't print enough
Apr 15 11:56:35 <pgp>	krugman is a douche bag
Apr 15 11:57:55 <pgp>	you know, i always thought it strange that as a journalist/writer, he won the nobel for economics, which is almost exclusively awarded to academic types...
Apr 15 11:58:38 <pgp>	so now he banks on that credential from his left wing bully pulpit and it annoys the crap out of me...
Apr 15 11:59:41 <Bugpowder>	http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=VGTSX+Interactive#symbol=vgtsx;range=20070518,20130415;compare=%5Egspc;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;
Apr 15 12:00:10 <Bugpowder>	VGTSX looks undervalued relative to SPY
Apr 15 12:00:40 <pgp>	from that chart, perhaps
Apr 15 12:01:10 <pgp>	problem is world is slowing down, but apparently US is doing fine...
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Apr 15 12:02:15 <MJR_>	yeah krugman is a retard
Apr 15 12:02:55 <MJR_>	The growth of the Internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in "Metcalfe's law"–which states that the number of potential connections in a network is proportional to the square of the number of participants–becomes apparent: most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the Internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax
Apr 15 12:02:55 <MJR_>	machine's.
Apr 15 12:03:17 <MJR_>	^^^why he doesn't get bitcoin
Apr 15 12:03:32 <MJR_>	As the rate of technological change in computing slows, the number of jobs for IT specialists will decelerate, then actually turn down; ten years from now, the phrase information economy will sound silly.
Apr 15 12:05:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38579 = 1.1574 BTC [+]
Apr 15 12:06:03 <Namworld>	Before, people bought locally. Now, they buy more on the web. It shifted customers/services around. And I think mostly consolidated a few large companies, but that's just an impression I have. I'd need data to back it =/
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Apr 15 12:06:27 <taub>	Krugman doesn't know shit, he still belives the broken window fallacy
Apr 15 12:06:32 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 15 12:06:34 <taub>	so I'm happy he is against bitcoin
Apr 15 12:06:44 <MJR_>	he hasn't actually done anything much of value...he hasn't produced much
Apr 15 12:07:36 <taub>	he's one of those types who openly says war is good for the economy etc
Apr 15 12:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [-]
Apr 15 12:12:05 <MJR_>	well...we do have north korea just begging for it
Apr 15 12:12:12 <MJR_>	and there is always iran
Apr 15 12:12:23 <MJR_>	who doesn't admit that afghanistan is getting old...
Apr 15 12:12:27 <MJR_>	JK
Apr 15 12:13:07 <BitHub>	i think alot of people still buy locally
Apr 15 12:13:23 <BitHub>	but i've noticed when there's a huge dip they'll hit the websites straight away because its quicker
Apr 15 12:13:43 <BitHub>	better off throwing yourself into the mainstream and charging 20% comissions
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Apr 15 12:16:26 <deadweasel_work>	;;ticker
Apr 15 12:16:28 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.38000, Best ask: 95.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11999, Last trade: 95.38000, 24 hour volume: 140456.92501169, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 94.65965
Apr 15 12:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.0007054 = 3.0332 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 12:23:50 <SterlingArcher>	hi
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Apr 15 12:29:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.888 = 2.664 BTC [+]
Apr 15 12:29:39 <deadweasel_work>	http://www.change.org/petitions/u-s-congress-shut-down-guantanamo-bay-prison-once-and-for-all-2
Apr 15 12:29:46 <deadweasel_work>	pls sign
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Apr 15 12:32:21 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 15 12:32:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.22101, Best ask: 95.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.69899, Last trade: 95.92000, 24 hour volume: 140774.22839093, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 94.64984
Apr 15 12:32:22 <pgp>	mt gox is like watching paint dry...
Apr 15 12:32:31 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 15 12:32:32 <gribble>	watching for another drop to low 90s, then re-evaluating ask depth and targets | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 10:47  UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 5 hours, 45 minutes, and 30 seconds ago
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Apr 15 12:33:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 0.888 = 15.096 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 12:50:52 <pgp>	finally, a little movement
Apr 15 12:50:59 <Bugpowder>	shit
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Apr 15 12:51:08 <jborkl>	I did it, dont get too excited
Apr 15 12:51:09 <Bugpowder>	it is going to sell off before I can dump the rest of my coins.
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Apr 15 12:51:21 <pgp>	yep
Apr 15 12:51:23 <jborkl>	beat you to it
Apr 15 12:51:33 <pgp>	sell, sell, sell!
Apr 15 12:52:11 <pgp>	markets taken a beating, too
Apr 15 12:54:07 <pgp>	LONG overdue selloff in US equity markets..
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Apr 15 12:55:05 <jborkl>	wow -gold down to 1300's
Apr 15 12:55:20 <jborkl>	silver 23
Apr 15 12:55:29 <jborkl>	lol, usagi silver etf
Apr 15 12:55:40 <ll>	!t h him
Apr 15 12:55:42 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.42200000 / 1.74224 / 1.95000000 (50 shares, 87.11200000 BTC), 7D: 0.75000001 / 1.43097842 / 1.95000000 (329 shares, 470.79190011 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.69665608 / 2.08000000 (822 shares, 1394.65130041 BTC)
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Apr 15 13:20:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7489 @ 0.0007054 = 5.2827 BTC [+]
Apr 15 13:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
Apr 15 13:24:19 <deadweasel_work>	;;nodes
Apr 15 13:24:20 <gribble>	Error: "nodes" is not a valid command.
Apr 15 13:24:27 <deadweasel_work>	gribble, go learn something new.
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Apr 15 13:26:56 <deadweasel_work>	;;ticker
Apr 15 13:26:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.97329, Best ask: 94.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02671, Last trade: 94.00000, 24 hour volume: 143971.50098586, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 94.53419
Apr 15 13:27:19 <deadweasel_work>	;;bids 99
Apr 15 13:27:21 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 99.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0042 seconds
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Apr 15 13:30:48 <Bugpowder>	time to crash the market
Apr 15 13:33:15 <jborkl>	do it
Apr 15 13:33:25 <pgp>	I want cheap coin!
Apr 15 13:33:39 <Bugpowder>	i did my best
Apr 15 13:33:55 <jborkl>	it is breaking support and the chart looks sickly
Apr 15 13:34:11 <pgp>	agreed..  rolling over...
Apr 15 13:34:13 <splnkr>	just spread around this disinformative article http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/15/opinion/krugman-the-antisocial-network.html
Apr 15 13:34:30 <Bugpowder>	someone else needs to take over from here
Apr 15 13:34:37 <Bugpowder>	I am totally out of coins.
Apr 15 13:34:39 <jborkl>	if we get below 85 then I expect lower from here
Apr 15 13:35:18 <jborkl>	massive dumping trades
Apr 15 13:35:18 <pgp>	once 92 drops it'll fall quickly to 80's
Apr 15 13:35:29 <jborkl>	Bugpowder was that you?
Apr 15 13:35:54 <Namworld>	you had ~ 4000 BTC?
Apr 15 13:36:14 <Bugpowder>	no comment
Apr 15 13:36:32 <jborkl>	Lol, just let me know right before you rebuy
Apr 15 13:36:38 <Bugpowder>	I was part of it
Apr 15 13:36:41 <Bugpowder>	not all of it
Apr 15 13:36:58 <Bugpowder>	oh shit
Apr 15 13:37:01 <Namworld>	I'm jelly now
Apr 15 13:37:02 <Bugpowder>	ask wall at 92 now
Apr 15 13:37:16 <topace>	92 wall all gone
Apr 15 13:37:17 <Namworld>	If I had my whole porftolio value in BTC available to sell at 250
Apr 15 13:37:35 <Namworld>	I'd have over 150k USD =/
Apr 15 13:37:57 <jcpham>	no comment
Apr 15 13:38:02 <jcpham>	also $250 not enough
Apr 15 13:38:12 <Namworld>	yes, 250 is enough
Apr 15 13:38:32 <pgp>	here we go!
Apr 15 13:38:42 <jcpham>	i may have bought some $180 coins during that fiasco
Apr 15 13:38:56 <jcpham>	and i may have sold them at $260
Apr 15 13:39:02 <jcpham>	can't confirm
Apr 15 13:39:06 <Scrat>	<90
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Apr 15 13:40:31 <jborkl>	going going gone..
Apr 15 13:40:33 <pgp>	85.44 is 24h low
Apr 15 13:40:38 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 15 13:40:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.01167, Best ask: 89.16000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14833, Last trade: 89.16000, 24 hour volume: 155047.46636155, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 94.29122
Apr 15 13:41:26 <topace>	so weird, i always expect monday the price to go up based on our volume on canadianbitcoins
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Apr 15 13:47:42 <pgp>	wtf?
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Apr 15 13:48:24 <Chilca>	Hi Simon__
Apr 15 13:48:39 <Simon__>	hi
Apr 15 13:48:53 <pgp>	lot's of spoofing going in this market, methinks...
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Apr 15 13:49:57 <jborkl>	have you seen how the mpex bot is pricing put/call
Apr 15 13:50:24 <pgp>	puts > 1BTC you mean?
Apr 15 13:50:44 <pgp>	caveat emptor!
Apr 15 13:51:08 <Bugpowder>	calls > 1BTC
Apr 15 13:51:12 <Bugpowder>	even worse!
Apr 15 13:51:15 <jborkl>	95 c .44 95 put 2.36
Apr 15 13:51:28 *	pizzaman1337 wishes the mpexbot would chill out already
Apr 15 13:51:32 <pgp>	not all calls, only some...  ALL puts > 1
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Apr 15 13:52:11 <pgp>	infinite vol
Apr 15 13:52:59 <Bugpowder>	bot doesn't want customers
Apr 15 13:53:29 <pgp>	bond holders want too high of a return
Apr 15 13:54:32 <pgp>	bot licking wounds...
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Apr 15 13:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.455 = 0.91 BTC [-]
Apr 15 13:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Apr 15 13:56:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 13:58:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8725 = 3.49 BTC [-]
Apr 15 13:59:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.865 = 5.19 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 13:59:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00070521 = 4.0902 BTC [-]
Apr 15 13:59:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.865 BTC [-]
Apr 15 13:59:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8602 BTC [-]
Apr 15 13:59:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8602 BTC [-]
Apr 15 13:59:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.86 = 4.3 BTC [-]
Apr 15 13:59:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.857 = 1.714 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 14:07:09 <nbvmcvbn>	hi
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Apr 15 14:07:11 <nbvmcvbn>	anyone here?
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Apr 15 14:08:20 <deadweasel_work>	no
Apr 15 14:08:26 <Scrat>	no
Apr 15 14:08:46 <deadweasel_work>	oh, he quit already
Apr 15 14:08:58 <deadweasel_work>	no time to even be a jerk
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Apr 15 14:12:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00070521 = 1.5162 BTC [-]
Apr 15 14:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4047 @ 0.0006988 = 2.828 BTC [-]
Apr 15 14:12:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00428 BTC [+]
Apr 15 14:12:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.00428 = 0.03 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 14:13:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.888 = 8.88 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 14:13:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.88998 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 14:16:37 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 15 14:16:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.12101, Best ask: 90.88899, Bid-ask spread: 0.76798, Last trade: 90.88900, 24 hour volume: 160856.43420830, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 94.03216
Apr 15 14:16:47 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 15 14:16:47 <gribble>	expecting to test 95.5, then to test 100 if 95.5 breaks| updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 17:49 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 27 minutes and 45 seconds ago
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Apr 15 14:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 14:25:34 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 14:25:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 91.19000, Best ask: 91.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.30999, Last trade: 91.50000, 24 hour volume: 161115.30989828, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 94.02022
Apr 15 14:25:38 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 15 14:25:39 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 43 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 15 14:25:51 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 15 14:25:52 <gribble>	expecting to test 95.5, then to test 100 if 95.5 breaks| updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 17:49 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 36 minutes and 50 seconds ago
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Apr 15 14:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.36600002 = 1.098 BTC [-]
Apr 15 14:29:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.36600001 = 3.294 BTC [-]
Apr 15 14:29:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36600001 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 14:34:06 <deadweasel_work>	;;ticker
Apr 15 14:34:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.99998, Best ask: 91.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.50001, Last trade: 91.50000, 24 hour volume: 161606.23154635, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 93.99775
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Apr 15 14:37:39 <punkman>	doing it wrong
Apr 15 14:37:40 <tk993>	wrong window, sorry
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Apr 15 14:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.366 = 0.732 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 14:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.36600003 = 3.66 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 14:58:06 <EskimoBob>	;;ticker
Apr 15 14:58:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.50003, Best ask: 93.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49997, Last trade: 93.00000, 24 hour volume: 163163.82299830, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 93.94272
Apr 15 14:58:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8899 BTC [-]
Apr 15 14:58:40 <punkman>	http://www.vrijspreker.nl/wp/wp-content/media/2013/04/zilver_slave_queen_base_zgw-505x505.jpg
Apr 15 14:58:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.88999 BTC [+]
Apr 15 14:59:41 <EskimoBob>	;;goxlag
Apr 15 14:59:41 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.550961 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00110411967513 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 15 15:00:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2111 @ 0.0007054 = 1.4891 BTC [+]
Apr 15 15:00:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9498 @ 0.00071 = 6.7436 BTC [+]
Apr 15 15:00:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.89 = 9.79 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 15:17:54 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 99
Apr 15 15:17:56 <gribble>	There are currently 9498.067 bitcoins offered at or under 99.0 USD, worth 920456.340518 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0033 seconds
Apr 15 15:18:07 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 90
Apr 15 15:18:08 <gribble>	There are currently 1588.4914 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 143371.686688 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.5109 seconds
Apr 15 15:18:13 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 80
Apr 15 15:18:14 <gribble>	There are currently 28364.908 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 2402240.82237 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.5698 seconds
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Apr 15 15:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3052 @ 0.0006988 = 2.1327 BTC [-]
Apr 15 15:22:19 <error4733>	haha https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171723.msg1786279#msg1786279
Apr 15 15:25:25 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 15 15:25:28 <gribble>	There are currently 43699603 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14291166.8035 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0084 seconds
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Apr 15 15:29:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.89 = 2.67 BTC [+]
Apr 15 15:37:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.88999 BTC [-]
Apr 15 15:37:40 <jcpham>	http://turtle.dereferenced.org/~nenolod/linode/linode-abridged.txt
Apr 15 15:37:47 <jcpham>	interesting read
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Apr 15 15:40:57 <Bugpowder>	SP500 -33.5
Apr 15 15:41:02 <Bugpowder>	big move
Apr 15 15:41:13 <jcpham>	boston bomb scare now too
Apr 15 15:41:24 <jcpham>	how do bomb scares effect markets?
Apr 15 15:41:54 <pgp>	wow VIX up 40% today
Apr 15 15:42:20 <error4733>	!last h vix
Apr 15 15:42:21 <assbot>	Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
Apr 15 15:42:41 <error4733>	!last h vtx
Apr 15 15:42:42 <assbot>	Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.46 BTC [+]
Apr 15 15:42:46 <pgp>	16.60 last..  12.01 friday close
Apr 15 15:43:13 <pgp>	S&P volatily index...
Apr 15 15:45:29 <Bugpowder>	damn... I think my sister is running boston.
Apr 15 15:45:34 <Bugpowder>	maybe that is next year
Apr 15 15:45:39 <Bugpowder>	I better check.
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Apr 15 15:47:09 <Bugpowder>	7 blocks in 10 minutes?!?
Apr 15 15:47:39 <jborkl>	wow yep
Apr 15 15:51:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.89 = 4.45 BTC [+]
Apr 15 15:51:52 <MJR_>	sup everybody
Apr 15 15:51:59 <kakobrekla>	alt chains
Apr 15 15:52:01 <kakobrekla>	apparently
Apr 15 15:52:08 <MJR_>	gold, silver and bitcoins are down
Apr 15 15:52:15 <MJR_>	what is the world coming to?
Apr 15 15:52:23 <kakobrekla>	alt coins are up
Apr 15 15:52:29 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 15 15:52:43 <MJR_>	ltc broke $4?
Apr 15 15:53:02 <kakobrekla>	i havent been paying close attention just got the word, no numbers included
Apr 15 15:53:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
Apr 15 15:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00069917 = 4.7544 BTC [+]
Apr 15 15:54:14 <Bugpowder>	nah just .0028
Apr 15 15:54:43 <Bugpowder>	.028
Apr 15 15:54:59 <Bugpowder>	EVERYTHING IS TANKING
Apr 15 15:56:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 4 @ 0.138 = 0.552 BTC [+]
Apr 15 15:56:56 <MJR_>	http://c.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/business-living/2013/apr/14/google-car-3d-printing-and-bitcoin-great-innovatio/
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Apr 15 15:57:02 <MJR_>	great article
Apr 15 15:57:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.138 BTC [+]
Apr 15 15:58:02 <MJR_>	http://bitcoinmagazine.com/bitcoin-is-not-antisocial-a-rebuttal-to-paul-krugman/
Apr 15 15:58:09 <MJR_>	and this one was like poetry to my ears
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Apr 15 16:01:14 <Bugpowder>	88
Apr 15 16:01:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10179 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:01:44 <MJR_>	whats new Bugpowder, you got any altcoins going?
Apr 15 16:01:55 <Bugpowder>	no I am totaly out of bitcoins
Apr 15 16:02:00 <Bugpowder>	except for some physical
Apr 15 16:02:15 <Bugpowder>	sold the last 25% this morning at 94
Apr 15 16:02:27 <Bugpowder>	triggered a big fish to dump 8k
Apr 15 16:02:46 <MJR_>	ah
Apr 15 16:02:50 <MJR_>	you have puts?
Apr 15 16:02:55 <Bugpowder>	no
Apr 15 16:03:00 <Scrat>	tanking on a monday... I guess it really is fulfilling the prophecy
Apr 15 16:03:01 <Bugpowder>	too expensive
Apr 15 16:03:03 <MJR_>	but also i was asking about altcoins
Apr 15 16:03:04 <Bugpowder>	yes
Apr 15 16:03:09 <Bugpowder>	I have no altcoins
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Apr 15 16:03:12 <MJR_>	oh
Apr 15 16:03:18 <MJR_>	so you are completely back to fiat?
Apr 15 16:03:31 <Bugpowder>	except for 40 physical BTC
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Apr 15 16:03:39 <MJR_>	well that is still pretty nice
Apr 15 16:03:45 <Scrat>	he is preparing for the next hype cycle :p
Apr 15 16:03:51 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 15 16:03:54 <MJR_>	i don't know
Apr 15 16:04:02 <MJR_>	i think things are going to get more stable
Apr 15 16:04:08 <MJR_>	and we will see a lot better sites out there
Apr 15 16:04:18 <MJR_>	slow steady growth back to 200
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Apr 15 16:04:30 <MJR_>	thats what i expect for the rest of 2013
Apr 15 16:04:38 <pgp>	wrong
Apr 15 16:04:43 <Bugpowder_>	I think we fade from here
Apr 15 16:04:46 <pgp>	retest lows
Apr 15 16:04:58 <Bugpowder_>	i am a buyer for a quick flip at 52
Apr 15 16:05:14 <Bugpowder_>	and for long term at 32, 26, 21, 16, 13, 11
Apr 15 16:05:45 <pgp>	there will be significant bounces on the way down, but down we must go
Apr 15 16:05:54 <Bugpowder_>	My coins were from $2.65 on the last bottom
Apr 15 16:06:08 <Bugpowder_>	If you want the 100x return, you need to be near the bottom
Apr 15 16:06:32 <ThickAsThieves>	that BFL link is pretty good
Apr 15 16:06:34 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
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Apr 15 16:07:50 <Scrat>	stability is very much needed
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Apr 15 16:08:15 <Scrat>	im not a big merchant or anything but when the price is stable I get 10 times more payments
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Apr 15 16:09:09 <Bugpowder_>	when you start seeing the post-mortem articles on the rise fall rise and final death of bitcoin, THAT'S when you buy.
Apr 15 16:09:40 <Bugpowder_>	I bought my coins the day this article came out. http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/
Apr 15 16:09:54 <TomServo>	Jumping in late here, what happened that makes you guys think you'll see $11 again?
Apr 15 16:09:55 <Bugpowder_>	plus or minus a few days, I don't really remember
Apr 15 16:10:06 <Bugpowder_>	TomServo: The bubble popped?
Apr 15 16:10:11 <Bugpowder_>	I don't think we will see 11
Apr 15 16:10:20 <Bugpowder_>	I think 16-32 is the likely bottom
Apr 15 16:10:28 <Bugpowder_>	but if we see 11, I'll buy 10,000BTC.
Apr 15 16:10:41 <Bugpowder_>	Well.... maybe 5000
Apr 15 16:12:00 <pgp>	lol
Apr 15 16:12:15 <TomServo>	Man, I forget that the fall from 32 to 5ish took several months.
Apr 15 16:12:20 <unbalanced>	Cripes just saw the news... if anyone's in Boston hope you and yours are okay.
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Apr 15 16:13:17 <pgp>	I think 32ish, the old high, lots of resistence getting through it - i think it'll represent significant support.
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Apr 15 16:13:38 <Bugpowder_>	TomServo: http://i.imgur.com/fZwy3xd.png
Apr 15 16:14:09 <Bugpowder_>	32 feels like the right valuation
Apr 15 16:14:22 <Bugpowder_>	15 felt right, before the bubble
Apr 15 16:14:33 <Bugpowder_>	there will be plenty of infrastructure growth till then
Apr 15 16:14:40 <Bugpowder_>	err, since then
Apr 15 16:14:54 <Bugpowder_>	so 32.  But often there is undershoot when a bubble pops
Apr 15 16:15:05 <Bugpowder_>	so I'm hoping to pick some up cheaper
Apr 15 16:15:32 <Bugpowder_>	87.5
Apr 15 16:15:53 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 15 16:15:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.51100, Best ask: 87.51101, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 87.50000, 24 hour volume: 163207.51950014, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 93.43970
Apr 15 16:16:29 <pgp>	we'll see - i also think that bottom formation has a lot to do with velocity
Apr 15 16:16:49 <Bugpowder_>	we need total capitulation
Apr 15 16:17:03 <Bugpowder_>	Then I will pounce.
Apr 15 16:17:08 <pgp>	mee too
Apr 15 16:17:34 <pgp>	but it'll be hard to do when gox breaks again - lol
Apr 15 16:18:11 <Bugpowder_>	man, if today was the top on the SP500 too, tiberiusiv's gloating is going to be so fucking annoying.
Apr 15 16:18:21 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 15 16:18:22 <gribble>	expecting to test 93, then to test 98 if 93 breaks, then testing 100 and targetting 103-105 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 18:43 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 hour, 35 minutes, and 20 seconds ago
Apr 15 16:18:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00069917 = 1.3634 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:18:41 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder_: S&P is down
Apr 15 16:18:45 <thestringpuller>	so is DOW
Apr 15 16:18:49 <pgp>	what's his deal anyway?  very aggressive on chat...
Apr 15 16:18:51 <Bugpowder_>	thestringpuller: yes I know
Apr 15 16:19:03 <Bugpowder_>	I bought some international stock funds today
Apr 15 16:19:06 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 16:19:07 <Bugpowder_>	at the close
Apr 15 16:19:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.52001, Best ask: 87.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.47998, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 163150.78113255, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 93.41196
Apr 15 16:19:17 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 80
Apr 15 16:19:20 <gribble>	There are currently 20414.097 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 1703773.20849 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0046 seconds
Apr 15 16:19:27 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 100
Apr 15 16:19:28 <gribble>	There are currently 20556.668 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1988149.39395 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.0104 seconds
Apr 15 16:19:49 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 15 16:19:51 <gribble>	93.36
Apr 15 16:20:19 <ThickAsThieves>	at what price does mining difficulty start to go down?
Apr 15 16:20:42 <thestringpuller>	?
Apr 15 16:20:51 <pgp>	20?
Apr 15 16:20:52 <ThickAsThieves>	where miners start unplugging
Apr 15 16:20:59 <pgp>	15?
Apr 15 16:21:16 <pgp>	less?
Apr 15 16:21:41 <Scrat>	if you look at '11
Apr 15 16:21:43 <pgp>	i suppose it all about marginal electricity at that point, unless you're renting your mining hardware...
Apr 15 16:21:43 <Scrat>	it took some time
Apr 15 16:21:54 <Scrat>	and now with asics it's going to be even less pronounced
Apr 15 16:22:02 <Scrat>	because noone will be unplugging them
Apr 15 16:22:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess if avalon was thinking about not selling to the public anymore, this seals that deal
Apr 15 16:24:24 <pgp>	chart not looking so good...  I think it starts to accellerate here...
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Apr 15 16:25:36 <jborkl>	86
Apr 15 16:26:56 <jborkl>	and i predict this is where mtgox starts lagging out for the rest of the day
Apr 15 16:28:25 <ThickAsThieves>	I predict no notable lag
Apr 15 16:28:37 <deadweasel>	is it safe to keep fiat at bitfloor?
Apr 15 16:28:55 <ThickAsThieves>	if you have to ask!
Apr 15 16:29:00 <jborkl>	lol at the sells
Apr 15 16:29:44 <deadweasel>	i know they got hacked for fiat in sept... but it's not like you can just magically get cash into an exchange when you need it.
Apr 15 16:29:50 <pgp>	deadweasal: i think so
Apr 15 16:30:11 <deadweasel>	is there a better way to handle the fiat@exchange problem?
Apr 15 16:30:14 <pgp>	they we hacked for BTC
Apr 15 16:30:30 <deadweasel>	so fiat was untouched, because it's digital and traceable?
Apr 15 16:31:05 <pgp>	really hard to steal fiat - period...
Apr 15 16:31:07 <Scrat>	deadweasel: well, banks will insure you for unauthorized transactions
Apr 15 16:31:23 <pgp>	fraudulant transactions can be reversed
Apr 15 16:31:31 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 15 16:31:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.50001, Best ask: 85.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 85.70000, 24 hour volume: 165090.90853723, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 93.14763
Apr 15 16:31:39 <deadweasel>	yeah, alright.  I won't be wiped out if someone takes my cash, but i'd prefer not.  thx for the input.
Apr 15 16:31:48 <deadweasel>	btw, anybody know what exactly exploded at the boston marathon today?
Apr 15 16:31:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:32:08 <pgp>	c'mon 85!
Apr 15 16:38:13 <ThickAsThieves>	not much known yeat deadweasel, two bombs in buildings by finish line, more possible lame bombs found
Apr 15 16:38:17 <ThickAsThieves>	up to 50 inured
Apr 15 16:38:22 <ThickAsThieves>	at least 3 dead
Apr 15 16:38:24 <ThickAsThieves>	2
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Apr 15 16:38:38 <deadweasel>	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH6fwFvCUAA-PWb.jpg
Apr 15 16:38:56 <deadweasel>	http://live.reuters.com/Event/Boston_Marathon_Explosion   <--- horrible number of scripts on this page
Apr 15 16:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 986 @ 0.00071 = 0.7001 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:39:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3564 @ 0.00071073 = 2.533 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 16:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 16:52:19 <Bugpowder_>	;;bids 0
Apr 15 16:52:21 <gribble>	There are currently 43609509 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13193804.0522 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0088 seconds
Apr 15 16:52:24 <Bugpowder_>	;;asks 9999999999999
Apr 15 16:52:25 <gribble>	There are currently 160834.57 bitcoins offered at or under 1e+13 USD, worth 1.41067200249e+13 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.4524 seconds
Apr 15 16:52:44 <thestringpuller>	lololol
Apr 15 16:52:48 <Bugpowder_>	its over
Apr 15 16:52:58 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 16:52:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.46109, Best ask: 86.68000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21891, Last trade: 86.68000, 24 hour volume: 167132.72055536, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 92.82566
Apr 15 16:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.22 = 2.44 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:53:06 <thestringpuller>	whats over?
Apr 15 16:53:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00409989 = 4.0999 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:53:11 <thestringpuller>	the bubble?
Apr 15 16:53:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00409991 = 6.1499 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:53:36 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 95
Apr 15 16:53:37 <gribble>	There are currently 11596.617 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 1061084.76118 USD in total. | Data vintage: 75.6159 seconds
Apr 15 16:53:56 <Bugpowder_>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY
Apr 15 16:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00409995 = 4.1 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:54:11 <thestringpuller>	i dony have youtube
Apr 15 16:54:15 <Bugpowder_>	S.DICE could be a good buy now
Apr 15 16:54:26 <Bugpowder_>	clearly the bounce is being front run a bit
Apr 15 16:54:40 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 16:54:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.24000, Best ask: 86.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 86.35000, 24 hour volume: 167118.49060236, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 92.82210
Apr 15 16:54:53 <kakobrekla>	im down for a fire and a couple of songs
Apr 15 16:54:59 <Bugpowder_>	lol
Apr 15 16:55:15 <thestringpuller>	more buyers are on the way though
Apr 15 16:55:24 <Bugpowder_>	yeah
Apr 15 16:55:29 <Bugpowder_>	just like this morning
Apr 15 16:55:45 <pgp>	dunno about that
Apr 15 16:55:45 <Bugpowder_>	when the bounce didn't happen
Apr 15 16:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:56:20 <kakobrekla>	also apropriate to listen while charts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoBFhdeR9PE
Apr 15 16:56:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1544 @ 0.003734 = 5.7653 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:57:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 54 @ 0.00392 = 0.2117 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:57:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1007 @ 0.004 = 4.028 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 16:57:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 106 @ 0.004 = 0.424 BTC [+]
Apr 15 16:57:50 <thestringpuller>	dude btc is hella surviving...
Apr 15 16:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 16:58:22 <jborkl>	83
Apr 15 16:58:25 <pgp>	85 gone
Apr 15 16:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00071199 = 6.2299 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 16:58:43 <pgp>	24h low
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Apr 15 16:59:15 <Bugpowder>	48 hour low
Apr 15 16:59:17 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 15 16:59:18 <gribble>	expecting to test 93, then to test 98 if 93 breaks, then testing 100 and targetting 103-105 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 18:43 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 16 minutes, and 16 seconds ago
Apr 15 16:59:22 <pgp>	lag-a-licious
Apr 15 16:59:30 <Bugpowder>	dude that guy is an idiot
Apr 15 16:59:34 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 15 16:59:35 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.18639 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000373523473074 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 15 16:59:43 <Bugpowder>	85 went down
Apr 15 16:59:44 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 80
Apr 15 16:59:44 <gribble>	There are currently 12461.383 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 1025539.32766 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.3550 seconds
Apr 15 16:59:48 <Bugpowder>	 we are going DOWN
Apr 15 16:59:56 <thestringpuller>	keep on sellin the.
Apr 15 17:00:02 <pgp>	whoa
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Apr 15 17:00:04 <Bugpowder>	81
Apr 15 17:00:07 <Bugpowder>	is coming
Apr 15 17:00:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 17:00:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.23450, Best ask: 83.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.76550, Last trade: 82.23450, 24 hour volume: 172174.43696469, 24 hour low: 83.12000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 92.56464
Apr 15 17:00:20 <thestringpuller>	itss hit 90 overnight
Apr 15 17:00:22 <thestringpuller>	just you see
Apr 15 17:01:09 <Bugpowder>	There will be bounces
Apr 15 17:01:21 <Bugpowder>	short lived pathetic little things
Apr 15 17:01:27 <Bugpowder>	so unlike the bounces of yesteryear
Apr 15 17:01:48 <pgp>	we'll see - off to get a drink - will have to monitor situation from cell phone (blows)
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Apr 15 17:02:33 <orkaa>	btw, anyone got a nexus 4?
Apr 15 17:02:45 <orkaa>	mine just doesn't like the mtgox app
Apr 15 17:03:01 <orkaa>	crashes on startup
Apr 15 17:03:05 <kakobrekla>	huh
Apr 15 17:03:11 <kakobrekla>	mtgox qualitat
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Apr 15 17:04:23 <ThickAsThieves>	even the bounces are almost gone
Apr 15 17:04:57 <Bugpowder>	thats becuase the selloff's haven't gotten violent enough. yet.
Apr 15 17:05:14 <Bugpowder>	If we drop to 50 there will be a bounce
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Apr 15 17:06:47 <Bugpowder>	every bounce with a lower high
Apr 15 17:07:17 <Bugpowder>	every dip a lower low
Apr 15 17:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [+]
Apr 15 17:10:47 <Bugpowder>	http://bcove.me/qwi5k6ap
Apr 15 17:10:48 <Bugpowder>	video of the bombing
Apr 15 17:11:21 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 15 17:11:23 <gribble>	There are currently 49607416 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12514542.8959 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0087 seconds
Apr 15 17:11:25 <Bugpowder>	;;asks 99999999999
Apr 15 17:11:26 <gribble>	There are currently 161806.29 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 125033136860.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.8288 seconds
Apr 15 17:13:17 <taub>	this is more like it
Apr 15 17:13:19 <taub>	:D
Apr 15 17:15:25 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 17:15:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.20000, Best ask: 82.39999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 82.40000, 24 hour volume: 181286.53123402, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.99549
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Apr 15 17:16:14 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 17:16:15 <taub>	mtgox humming along nicely
Apr 15 17:16:16 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.00000, Best ask: 82.23300, Bid-ask spread: 0.23300, Last trade: 85.07394, 24 hour volume: 181765.32662977, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.96967
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Apr 15 17:16:36 <taub>	why no lag suddenly?!?! maybe they finally released the brakes...
Apr 15 17:17:41 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 17:17:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.46070, Best ask: 82.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03930, Last trade: 82.50000, 24 hour volume: 182869.62756165, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.91353
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Apr 15 17:19:46 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice rallying pretty hard
Apr 15 17:20:02 <Bugpowdurr>	no surprise there
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Apr 15 17:20:20 <Bugpowdurr>	but that will only be supported if betting volume actually picks up
Apr 15 17:20:27 <Bugpowdurr>	and buy back in lower
Apr 15 17:20:28 <Bugpowdurr>	I would rather cash out of coins
Apr 15 17:20:48 <Bugpowdurr>	and then move to s.dice when bet volume is shown to be up again
Apr 15 17:20:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess it depends where it lands
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Apr 15 17:21:02 <Bugpowdurr>	people are front-running S.DICE
Apr 15 17:21:06 <Bugpowdurr>	and it's low volume
Apr 15 17:21:14 <Bugpowdurr>	its not a bad idea
Apr 15 17:21:25 <Bugpowdurr>	but not a home run either
Apr 15 17:21:36 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowdurr: you done with btc?
Apr 15 17:21:59 <Bugpowdurr>	hell no
Apr 15 17:22:07 <Bugpowdurr>	no
Apr 15 17:22:08 <Bugpowdurr>	I just want more
Apr 15 17:22:37 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 15 17:23:20 <jborkl>	bid ask gox 88 81
Apr 15 17:23:28 <jborkl>	nm
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Apr 15 17:23:51 <Bugpowdeer>	I will buy the winkelvoxen's stack when they capitulate
Apr 15 17:24:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00071101 = 6.8257 BTC [-]
Apr 15 17:24:55 <Bugpowdeer>	btw - got some c302t's on the market, CHEEP!
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Apr 15 17:26:03 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Apr 15 17:26:18 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 15 17:26:19 <gribble>	expecting to test 93, then to test 98 if 93 breaks, then testing 100 and targetting 103-105 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 18:43 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 43 minutes, and 17 seconds ago
Apr 15 17:26:25 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 17:26:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.00001, Best ask: 82.21000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20999, Last trade: 82.00001, 24 hour volume: 184460.54915531, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.82169
Apr 15 17:26:51 <ThickAsThieves>	I have some O.USD.P089T
Apr 15 17:27:02 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 80
Apr 15 17:27:05 <gribble>	There are currently 6374.6862 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 513716.693315 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0041 seconds
Apr 15 17:27:12 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 90
Apr 15 17:27:13 <gribble>	There are currently 10789.73 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 939197.07045 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.8740 seconds
Apr 15 17:27:45 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Apr 15 17:27:48 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231525 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 314 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 20 hours, 4 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8928892.15082 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.36768
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Apr 15 17:43:33 <taub>	pop pop pop
Apr 15 17:43:45 <jborkl>	uh oh
Apr 15 17:43:53 <taub>	omg lol those sells
Apr 15 17:44:06 <taub>	cooldown imminent
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Apr 15 17:49:32 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 15 17:49:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.40000, Best ask: 76.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 76.48000, 24 hour volume: 202039.77755624, 24 hour low: 76.00000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 90.72171
Apr 15 17:49:38 <pgp2>	wow
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Apr 15 17:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [+]
Apr 15 17:51:13 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 17:51:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.00000, Best ask: 78.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 78.75000, 24 hour volume: 202039.77755624, 24 hour low: 76.00000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 90.72171
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Apr 15 17:52:25 <Scrat>	;;title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U
Apr 15 17:52:26 <gribble>	Blame it on MT.GOX - YouTube
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Apr 15 17:53:15 <taub>	BTC bought: [tid:1366062491912230] 12.00000000 BTC at $76.10000
Apr 15 17:53:20 <taub>	BTC sold: [tid:1366062708031449] 9.15686140 BTC at $79.00000
Apr 15 17:53:41 <taub>	quick scalp :3c
Apr 15 17:53:50 <Namworld>	yeah
Apr 15 17:54:02 <Namworld>	with so much movements, easy to flip for a few USD
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Apr 15 17:58:55 <error4733>	;;next
Apr 15 17:58:56 <gribble>	expecting to test 93, then to test 98 if 93 breaks, then testing 100 and targetting 103-105 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 18:43 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 54 seconds ago
Apr 15 17:59:25 <pgp2>	lol
Apr 15 18:00:03 <jurov>	all so unreal... since 9 April till today went travelling without access to my own mpex account, figured that won't be problem
Apr 15 18:00:28 <jurov>	of course, mayhem ensues in exactly that time frame
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Apr 15 18:01:46 <taub>	http://krautchan.net/files/1366062103001.jpg
Apr 15 18:02:04 <error4733>	!bids 69.9
Apr 15 18:03:41 <error4733>	!bids 69.9
Apr 15 18:03:51 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 15 18:03:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.00000, Best ask: 72.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 72.90000, 24 hour volume: 215607.09679741, 24 hour low: 73.31000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 89.77153
Apr 15 18:03:53 <Scrat>	;;bids 69.9
Apr 15 18:03:53 <gribble>	There are currently 17121.238 bitcoins demanded at or over 69.9 USD, worth 1234402.44978 USD in total. | Data vintage: 47.0863 seconds
Apr 15 18:04:32 <Scrat>	oh shit
Apr 15 18:04:50 <jcpham>	;;market sell 10000
Apr 15 18:04:50 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 732027.7637 USD and would take the last price down to 71.5100 USD, resulting in an average price of 73.2028 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 103.7943 seconds
Apr 15 18:04:50 <taub>	looks like we're goign for 40
Apr 15 18:04:51 <error4733>	i use to pm gribble, it's confusing !bids work
Apr 15 18:04:54 <taub>	er, 50
Apr 15 18:06:23 <kakobrekla>	yes 50 before 40
Apr 15 18:06:51 <pizzaman1337>	;;goxlag
Apr 15 18:06:54 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.852667 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00371272392451 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Apr 15 18:07:12 <Namworld>	MtGox really fixed the lag good
Apr 15 18:07:18 <joecool>	lol
Apr 15 18:07:26 <Namworld>	No more 300-30000 seconds of lag on panic buy/sell
Apr 15 18:07:39 <Namworld>	I ranges from 0-10 second
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Apr 15 18:10:57 <error4733>	satoshi kid's play with his wallet
Apr 15 18:13:01 <b0n1>	haha ;)
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Apr 15 18:19:11 <Bugpow>	;;bids 0
Apr 15 18:19:13 <gribble>	There are currently 49577235 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11076918.2758 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0122 seconds
Apr 15 18:19:15 <Bugpow>	;;asks 999999999
Apr 15 18:19:16 <gribble>	There are currently 163292.17 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3921203220.22 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.6129 seconds
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Apr 15 18:19:58 <Bugpow>	;;asks 100
Apr 15 18:19:59 <gribble>	There are currently 35249.319 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 3244397.7273 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.8733 seconds
Apr 15 18:20:23 <Bugpow>	kiss 100 goodbye
Apr 15 18:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.48399999 = 8.228 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 18:21:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00071199 = 2.5632 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 18:23:27 <KRS1>	are there options for short?
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Apr 15 18:28:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.899 = 4.495 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 18:31:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.0006 = 0.12 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 18:35:18 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 15 18:35:20 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067807 / 0.00069653 / 0.00071199 (321008 shares, 223.59 BTC), 7D: 0.00065356 / 0.00069955 / 0.000735 (2738441 shares, 1,915.70 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.0006853 / 0.00077505 (9950306 shares, 6,818.95 BTC)
Apr 15 18:36:35 <Bugpowder>	nice little bounce here
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Apr 15 18:36:44 <Bugpowder>	glad my friends will be able to get out above 80
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Apr 15 18:41:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.895 BTC [-]
Apr 15 18:41:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.89 = 1.78 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 18:43:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3213 @ 0.00071004 = 2.2814 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 18:45:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87021 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 18:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3401 @ 0.00071004 = 2.4148 BTC [-]
Apr 15 18:52:30 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 15 18:52:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.21200, Best ask: 77.21210, Bid-ask spread: 0.00010, Last trade: 77.21210, 24 hour volume: 235487.22898511, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.89123
Apr 15 18:53:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8702 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 18:56:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10179 BTC [+]
Apr 15 18:59:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00071199 = 1.424 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 19:01:50 <deadweasel>	that remains to be seen
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Apr 15 19:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 19:15:27 <ThickAsThieves>	scraped another 42btc out of stocks and sold above 80
Apr 15 19:15:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 5 @ 0.0016 = 0.008 BTC [-]
Apr 15 19:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7251 @ 0.00070461 = 5.1091 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 19:16:41 <jurov>	got btctalk PM with disguised link to proxy to get my password
Apr 15 19:17:03 <jurov>	wonder how many users will fall for it
Apr 15 19:17:29 <Doffx>	Hell I am always afraid I will fall for one
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Apr 15 19:18:01 <Namworld>	I want to scrape BTC out of my stocks too
Apr 15 19:18:29 <Doffx>	why would you want to sell it now? Think its going much lower?
Apr 15 19:18:32 <Bugpowder>	Sell the bounces
Apr 15 19:18:33 <Bugpowder>	 bounce back to 87 is pretty likely. 94 plausible. 100 unlikely.
Apr 15 19:18:41 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 19:18:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.70000, Best ask: 83.71000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 83.71000, 24 hour volume: 228798.11579488, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.58152
Apr 15 19:18:50 <jurov>	;;eightball bounce
Apr 15 19:18:50 <gribble>	Yes!
Apr 15 19:18:54 <jurov>	yay
Apr 15 19:18:59 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: you are supposed to be neural scientist
Apr 15 19:19:20 <thestringpuller>	not hedgefund man
Apr 15 19:19:48 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 15 19:19:49 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 7 hours, 37 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
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Apr 15 19:21:45 <ThickAsThieves>	stringpuller, still getting goxed by smickles?
Apr 15 19:22:03 <ThickAsThieves>	getting smickled?
Apr 15 19:22:51 <ThickAsThieves>	most of the btc i got out was bonds i had with Deprived, he bought them back from me like a champ
Apr 15 19:23:24 <Bugpowder>	he is the only non bitcoin-assets guy with half a brain
Apr 15 19:23:32 <Bugpowder>	actually he is full brain
Apr 15 19:23:57 <thestringpuller>	smickles is like overwhelmed doing people's taxes for btc
Apr 15 19:24:06 <thestringpuller>	likely*
Apr 15 19:24:34 <Namworld>	Deprived has a bond?
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Apr 15 19:24:58 <jurov>	hehe i made him once-a-lifetime offer to license coinbr code for 90BTC
Apr 15 19:25:01 <jurov>	he refused
Apr 15 19:25:06 <jurov>	*shrugs*
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Apr 15 19:27:06 <ThickAsThieves>	yes LTC ATF
Apr 15 19:27:10 <ThickAsThieves>	has bonds
Apr 15 19:27:14 <ThickAsThieves>	LTC ATF B1
Apr 15 19:27:24 <ThickAsThieves>	denominated in btc
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Apr 15 19:29:37 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 19:29:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 79.10000, Best ask: 79.57928, Bid-ask spread: 0.47928, Last trade: 78.00000, 24 hour volume: 231528.75561906, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.45454
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Apr 15 19:30:32 <thestringpuller>	too many speculatrs :(
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Apr 15 19:33:26 <Bugpow>	do we get one more bounce up here?
Apr 15 19:33:34 <Bugpow>	or back to tankage?
Apr 15 19:33:43 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 19:33:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.63830, Best ask: 80.65190, Bid-ask spread: 0.01360, Last trade: 78.80000, 24 hour volume: 234374.31191872, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.29248
Apr 15 19:33:48 <thestringpuller>	maybe
Apr 15 19:34:04 <pgp>	nice to see a little volume coming back into the market...
Apr 15 19:34:24 <Bugpow>	huge volume
Apr 15 19:34:31 <pgp>	down from here I think
Apr 15 19:34:47 <Bugpow>	Well my friends have another 600BTC on the way to gox
Apr 15 19:34:51 <pgp>	we got our dead cat bounce already
Apr 15 19:34:53 <Bugpow>	for dumpage
Apr 15 19:35:27 <Scrat>	i seriously think that volume figure is bogus
Apr 15 19:35:48 <Bugpow>	why?
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Apr 15 19:35:57 <pgp>	scrat: why?
Apr 15 19:36:04 <Bugpow>	There are serious bids and asks getting destroyed right now
Apr 15 19:36:16 <pgp>	right
Apr 15 19:36:32 <Bugpow>	this is actually the highest volume period ever, excluding the free 48 hour period
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Apr 15 19:36:52 <pgp>	yes, i noticed that too
Apr 15 19:36:56 <Bugpow>	40,000 BTC / hr
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Apr 15 19:38:31 <pgp>	;;next
Apr 15 19:38:31 <gribble>	buy targets: 74, 68, 54 | upper target 85-88, reversal up if we stay above 85 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 22:54 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 44 minutes and 29 seconds ago
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Apr 15 19:39:16 <pgp>	;;eightball $32 bitcoin?
Apr 15 19:39:16 <gribble>	It shall be.
Apr 15 19:39:30 <pgp>	i KNEW it
Apr 15 19:40:33 <pgp>	bids are evapotaing...
Apr 15 19:40:40 <Bugpow>	now OneFixt is talking some sense
Apr 15 19:40:44 <pgp>	evaporating..
Apr 15 19:40:54 <Bugpow>	too bad he told you that AFTER it dumped
Apr 15 19:40:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13999 BTC [+]
Apr 15 19:41:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 15 @ 0.14 = 2.1 BTC [+]
Apr 15 19:41:06 <OneFixt>	Bugpow: i stepped out for an hour =(
Apr 15 19:41:27 <Bugpow>	ha!
Apr 15 19:41:32 <OneFixt>	one hour in like 2 weeks
Apr 15 19:41:34 <OneFixt>	and bam
Apr 15 19:42:25 <Bugpow>	;;bids 0
Apr 15 19:42:27 <gribble>	There are currently 49590076 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11742910.623 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0078 seconds
Apr 15 19:42:37 <Bugpow>	;;asks 99999999999
Apr 15 19:42:38 <gribble>	There are currently 150494.7 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 125027833971.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.6874 seconds
Apr 15 19:42:45 <Bugpow>	coins for sale going down
Apr 15 19:43:16 <pgp>	sell the bounce!
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Apr 15 19:44:02 <pgp>	man, a LOT of coin sloshing around...
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Apr 15 19:44:47 <pgp>	low lag is such a novelty...
Apr 15 19:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.484 BTC [+]
Apr 15 19:45:43 <Bugpow>	MONEY NEVER SLEEPS
Apr 15 19:45:54 <Bugpow>	they must have upgraded their servers actually
Apr 15 19:46:01 <Bugpow>	otherwise lagged out
Apr 15 19:46:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.00159 = 0.0095 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 19:46:35 <pgp>	3day chart on bitcoinity tells the story in no uncertain terms... lower lows and lower highs...
Apr 15 19:47:01 <pgp>	you could almost set your watch to it...
Apr 15 19:47:34 <pgp>	they did upgrade their severs during the "cool down"...
Apr 15 19:47:57 <pgp>	problem was that they came back up with "free" trading for 2 days which killed them...
Apr 15 19:47:59 <Bugpow>	nice bidwall now
Apr 15 19:48:20 <Bugpow>	very happy my friends are going to get out above 80
Apr 15 19:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.484 = 1.936 BTC [+]
Apr 15 19:49:13 <pgp>	PSA - sell the bounce!
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Apr 15 19:54:32 <ThickAsThieves>	CampBX got a new logo
Apr 15 19:54:55 <ThickAsThieves>	it's not bad but kinda outta place with the site design
Apr 15 19:55:05 <ThickAsThieves>	https://campbx.com/main.php
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Apr 15 20:03:40 <wences>	;;goxlag
Apr 15 20:03:41 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.143437 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00229143494544 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 15 20:04:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00439999 = 4.4 BTC [+]
Apr 15 20:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 15 20:05:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.47901, Best ask: 83.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 83.47900, 24 hour volume: 235906.16414531, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.05151
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Apr 15 20:25:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.17 = 0.51 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 20:27:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.41 = 0.82 BTC [+]
Apr 15 20:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9084 @ 0.0006988 = 6.3479 BTC [-]
Apr 15 20:27:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6709 @ 0.00069835 = 4.6852 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 21:18:16 <pgp>	it is QUIET in here...   are those crickets i hear?
Apr 15 21:19:15 <kakobrekla>	*tubleweed*
Apr 15 21:19:23 <kakobrekla>	tumble*
Apr 15 21:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	stubbleweed lol
Apr 15 21:21:10 <Bugpowdurr>	i'll be back in a bit
Apr 15 21:22:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.00159 = 0.0159 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 21:25:53 <pgp>	you know, I really wish all charting products offered logarithmic scales...  especially for volatile assets...
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Apr 15 21:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1.22 = 6.1 BTC [+]
Apr 15 21:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.22 = 4.88 BTC [+]
Apr 15 21:34:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.22 = 4.88 BTC [+]
Apr 15 21:34:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.22 = 3.66 BTC [+]
Apr 15 21:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.19 = 2.38 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 21:41:11 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 21:41:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.20000, Best ask: 74.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 74.00000, 24 hour volume: 244430.28357478, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 86.06528
Apr 15 21:41:19 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 15 21:41:20 <gribble>	86.18
Apr 15 21:41:23 <thestringpuller>	jurov:
Apr 15 21:41:29 <thestringpuller>	where is you
Apr 15 21:42:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.88999 BTC [+]
Apr 15 21:42:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.89 = 5.34 BTC [+]
Apr 15 21:42:57 <KRS1>	somebody's fixin to buy $14K of litecoins
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Apr 15 21:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.49 = 0.98 BTC [+]
Apr 15 21:43:08 <KRS1>	actually $15K
Apr 15 21:43:26 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 15 21:43:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.43000, Best ask: 74.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.47000, Last trade: 74.95000, 24 hour volume: 246451.24074112, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 85.94777
Apr 15 21:43:36 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 15 21:43:37 <gribble>	74-80 range | buy targets: 74, 68, 54 | resistance 85-88, upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 1:06 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 37 minutes and 35 seconds ago
Apr 15 21:43:59 <KRS1>	that thing accurate?
Apr 15 21:44:15 <thestringpuller>	this is not investment or trading advice <<<<< what do you think?
Apr 15 21:44:49 <KRS1>	thats different than the tool being accurate
Apr 15 21:44:58 <thestringpuller>	it's not a tool a guy updates it
Apr 15 21:45:01 <thestringpuller>	every so often
Apr 15 21:45:22 <KRS1>	it was a simple question, didnt ask if it was good advice just if it was accurate or not
Apr 15 21:45:32 <KRS1>	chill
Apr 15 21:46:11 *	thestringpuller is very chill.
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Apr 15 21:46:37 <thestringpuller>	It's like a weather forecast...
Apr 15 21:47:01 <KRS1>	ok cool i understand those pretty well..thanks-
Apr 15 21:47:01 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 15 21:47:02 <gribble>	86.00
Apr 15 21:48:05 <thestringpuller>	stop being such a meanie
Apr 15 21:49:40 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 15 21:49:40 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 10 hours, 7 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 15 21:51:47 <splnkr>	way to look, glad i heard that idea
Apr 15 21:52:45 <thestringpuller>	?
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Apr 15 21:55:31 <splnkr>	bitcoin atm isn't just for getting money out of your account, but also for transferring it to anyone else
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Apr 15 21:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.46 = 2.76 BTC [-]
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Apr 15 22:07:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.36500018 = 0.73 BTC [-]
Apr 15 22:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.049 = 4.196 BTC [-]
Apr 15 22:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.66110001 BTC [-]
Apr 15 22:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.6611 = 6.6444 BTC [-]
Apr 15 22:15:19 <pgp>	getting kinda frothy out there!
Apr 15 22:17:30 <ThickAsThieves>	whatcha mean?
Apr 15 22:18:38 <pgp>	pick up in volume, large market orders order on both side...  market trying to decide which way it wants to go...
Apr 15 22:19:21 <pgp>	kinda like my kids splashing around in the bathtub...  frothy...
Apr 15 22:20:47 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 15 22:20:57 <ThickAsThieves>	nice time to play
Apr 15 22:22:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00070213 = 9.6192 BTC [+]
Apr 15 22:22:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00071199 = 0.356 BTC [+]
Apr 15 22:23:50 <kakobrekla>	well the gold chart makes me feel better
Apr 15 22:24:11 <kakobrekla>	i guess another trait of slovenes
Apr 15 22:24:21 <kakobrekla>	should be added to definition of sloveny
Apr 15 22:25:31 <pgp>	lol
Apr 15 22:28:21 <pgp>	ok, so we're at 75...  poll: were are we at 24 hours from now?
Apr 15 22:28:29 <ThickAsThieves>	65
Apr 15 22:28:48 <KRS1>	thanks to you fine people i know a bit more than i did about Slovenia and how embarrased i was to confuse it with Somalia..especially geographically.
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Apr 15 22:29:08 <pgp>	krs1: lol
Apr 15 22:29:21 <kakobrekla>	thanks to our PM id rather be in somalia
Apr 15 22:29:27 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha somalia
Apr 15 22:29:31 <KRS1>	=(
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Apr 15 22:29:57 <joecool>	mircea_popescu: how's romania?
Apr 15 22:30:09 <KRS1>	Many Americans are ignorant about other countries, ours is so big many cant even name all of our states.
Apr 15 22:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	sorta 50 miles east of somalia.
Apr 15 22:30:59 <joecool>	mircea_popescu: it's sorta a non-popular country to see on IRC
Apr 15 22:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	orly ?
Apr 15 22:31:24 <joecool>	yeah
Apr 15 22:31:25 <pgp>	in case you didn't know, the balkan mafia runs this channel
Apr 15 22:31:39 <KRS1>	I do know a few things about Romania.
Apr 15 22:31:42 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 15 22:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	there;'s evenb a freenode romanian server what arte you talkin' about
Apr 15 22:31:55 <KRS1>	Any tourist destinations there for the Dracul interests?
Apr 15 22:32:05 <joecool>	yeah I know there is, I VPN there too, i assumed it was because you don't have laws or something
Apr 15 22:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	we just don't have american nazism.
Apr 15 22:32:56 <ThickAsThieves>	you mean romanians dont hate americans?
Apr 15 22:33:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.89 = 3.56 BTC [+]
Apr 15 22:33:14 <joecool>	i'm assuming romanians know more about americans than americans know about romanians
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Apr 15 22:33:45 <ThickAsThieves>	romanians probly know more about americans than americans know about americans, we dumb
Apr 15 22:34:21 <mircea_popescu>	well... they think they do at the very least.
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Apr 15 22:35:07 <pgp>	curiously, I have a trio of romanian developers who have worked for me for 8 years...  sponsored 2 of them for h1b's...  we joke about romanians in my offic all he time...  in a nice way, of course...
Apr 15 22:35:16 <joecool>	ask an american what they think of romania, the answer will probably be around the lines of "isn't that a place where gypsies and wizards roam around?"
Apr 15 22:35:48 <mircea_popescu>	gypsies kinda all left for france.
Apr 15 22:35:53 <ThickAsThieves>	my only impression of romania is that video mp showed of dudes fucking with the kid who stole the bike
Apr 15 22:35:55 <KRS1>	joecool: u are probably right
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Apr 15 22:36:06 <ThickAsThieves>	like some kinda eurpoean bronx
Apr 15 22:36:09 <pgp>	transylvania - that's what americans know about romania
Apr 15 22:36:11 <joecool>	mircea_popescu: i thought france was a muslim country now
Apr 15 22:36:22 <KRS1>	pgp was spot on
Apr 15 22:36:23 <mircea_popescu>	no that's the uk.
Apr 15 22:36:28 <KRS1>	and the weather is always dreadful
Apr 15 22:36:40 <mircea_popescu>	well... i'm from transylvania actually.
Apr 15 22:36:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i like dreadful weather
Apr 15 22:36:58 <ThickAsThieves>	rain
Apr 15 22:37:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89899 BTC [+]
Apr 15 22:37:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.89899 = 2.697 BTC [+]
Apr 15 22:37:12 <KRS1>	mircea popescu: i bet you can pull some bitches too
Apr 15 22:37:19 <orkaa>	it's finally improving here in eu
Apr 15 22:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	it's not dreadful. it's sort of like hm... virginia maybe.
Apr 15 22:37:22 <KRS1>	like a tow truck
Apr 15 22:37:24 <orkaa>	after 8 months of winter
Apr 15 22:37:25 <joecool>	well would be worse, canada is mostly cold and snow
Apr 15 22:37:25 <orkaa>	brr
Apr 15 22:37:38 <ThickAsThieves>	virginia has distinctive weather?
Apr 15 22:37:44 <mircea_popescu>	kinda my point.
Apr 15 22:37:47 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 15 22:37:49 <pgp>	mp: how much time did you spend abroad?  did you live in the US?
Apr 15 22:37:54 <kakobrekla>	sure only 8 moths of winter, wasnt there like 14?
Apr 15 22:38:18 <KRS1>	lol joecool wizards and gypsies lol yep
Apr 15 22:38:37 <ThickAsThieves>	were you born in a vampire castle?
Apr 15 22:38:43 <KRS1>	I am not far from Miami, FL we have a lot of culture here
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Apr 15 22:39:01 <ThickAsThieves>	culture = lotsa spaniards?
Apr 15 22:39:15 <KRS1>	Cubans mostly, but a big mix of everyone..and i mean everyone
Apr 15 22:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	pgp yeah.
Apr 15 22:39:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3874 @ 0.00069763 = 2.7026 BTC [-]
Apr 15 22:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7826 @ 0.00069745 = 5.4582 BTC [-]
Apr 15 22:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	what does "a lot of culture" mean ?
Apr 15 22:39:44 <pgp>	timisoara kinda like NYC right now...  http://www.weather.com/weather/today/Timisoara+ROXX0040:1:RO
Apr 15 22:39:51 <ThickAsThieves>	good question
Apr 15 22:39:59 <ThickAsThieves>	must mean he is not cuban
Apr 15 22:40:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.899 = 2.697 BTC [+]
Apr 15 22:40:08 <orkaa>	kakobrekla, climate is different in your secluded village
Apr 15 22:40:40 <pgp>	lol
Apr 15 22:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6611 BTC [-]
Apr 15 22:41:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.661 BTC [-]
Apr 15 22:41:05 <ThickAsThieves>	everywhere has culture
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Apr 15 22:41:11 <KRS1>	Umm..means, a good mix of food/dancing/special interest groups of nationalities/people you will meet on the streets who could be from anywhere really..but a lot of Cubans...a lot of folks from the Caribbean..but also people from many parts of the world.
Apr 15 22:41:14 <orkaa>	slovenia's really nice these days
Apr 15 22:41:15 <orkaa>	http://instagram.com/p/YIg9mfCFrl/#
Apr 15 22:41:18 <ThickAsThieves>	where i am, its nascar and pickup trucks
Apr 15 22:41:20 <orkaa>	took this today
Apr 15 22:41:39 <kakobrekla>	zokijevo morje lol
Apr 15 22:41:47 <pgp>	oh shit - gox taking a crap
Apr 15 22:41:50 <KRS1>	I have studied with students from abroad, Egypt, Japan, everywhere.
Apr 15 22:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	i fail to see how this is culture.
Apr 15 22:42:19 <mircea_popescu>	culture mostly means written shit 500 years old or older.
Apr 15 22:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	you mean a lot of ethno stuff ?
Apr 15 22:42:54 <KRS1>	It has to be written?  I have learned much about food from Jamaicans, dance from Cubans, poetry from folks from the U.K..
Apr 15 22:43:06 <KRS1>	Music from Brazil..
Apr 15 22:43:19 <mircea_popescu>	yes culture has to be written. else it's maybe civilisation
Apr 15 22:43:23 <mircea_popescu>	if you mean buldings or whatnot.
Apr 15 22:43:33 <mircea_popescu>	if it's neither then it's folklore.
Apr 15 22:43:43 <KRS1>	Ok I had the wrong definition of culture then..
Apr 15 22:43:52 <KRS1>	The Cubans make delicious food.
Apr 15 22:44:46 <mircea_popescu>	thuis is kinda the advantage of vbeing american/english
Apr 15 22:44:52 <mircea_popescu>	comparatively everyone makes great food.
Apr 15 22:44:58 <orkaa>	lol
Apr 15 22:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	even the canadians, if only marginally.
Apr 15 22:45:08 <KRS1>	Even the British? ;)
Apr 15 22:45:09 <ThickAsThieves>	nah poutine is nasty
Apr 15 22:45:16 <ThickAsThieves>	as is candaian bacon
Apr 15 22:45:23 <mircea_popescu>	that shit's sweet
Apr 15 22:45:27 <ThickAsThieves>	bleh
Apr 15 22:45:29 <mircea_popescu>	who ever heard of sweet meat ;/
Apr 15 22:45:35 <pgp>	english have worst cuisine - hands down
Apr 15 22:45:39 <KRS1>	thats real big here mircea popescu
Apr 15 22:45:39 <orkaa>	yep
Apr 15 22:45:44 <orkaa>	their breakfast
Apr 15 22:46:02 <joecool>	yeah english food is pretty bad
Apr 15 22:46:05 <KRS1>	really big...took someone from Brazil to help me realize most of how we prepare meat here is sweat..
Apr 15 22:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	sucks.
Apr 15 22:46:27 <KRS1>	yeah, gets ...bleh
Apr 15 22:46:44 <ThickAsThieves>	i like spicy foods (any kind of spice, not just hot), Thai, Indian, portuguese
Apr 15 22:46:56 <pgp>	errr, guys, i think we're gonna break 70 here....
Apr 15 22:46:57 <joecool>	KRS1: live without carbs for a couple months, will change entirely how you feel about sweet things
Apr 15 22:46:58 <KRS1>	never ate Indian food I like..
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Apr 15 22:47:08 <kakobrekla>	fuck the price, gimme some horse meat
Apr 15 22:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	i love lamb tikka masala
Apr 15 22:47:16 <KRS1>	Carbs is the one thing I can't break away from..wish I could.
Apr 15 22:47:18 <KRS1>	I go mad.
Apr 15 22:47:26 <orkaa>	mmm, horse meat
Apr 15 22:47:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd die without carbs, vegan
Apr 15 22:47:35 <pgp>	carbs are killing me....
Apr 15 22:47:35 <joecool>	eh it's like a drug, there's a withdrawal from it, but then it doesn't matter
Apr 15 22:47:44 <mircea_popescu>	^
Apr 15 22:47:45 <orkaa>	i'll have to treat myself with a horse burger soon
Apr 15 22:47:48 <KRS1>	I need to try to get over that hump.
Apr 15 22:47:56 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: was it you that linked thugkitchen.com?
Apr 15 22:48:05 <ThickAsThieves>	never heard of it
Apr 15 22:48:06 <dub>	if not, good vegan food blog
Apr 15 22:48:19 <kakobrekla>	omg vegan srsly
Apr 15 22:48:21 <joecool>	heh vegan = cancer
Apr 15 22:48:22 <ThickAsThieves>	thx!
Apr 15 22:48:28 <KRS1>	joecool: what?
Apr 15 22:48:31 <dub>	kakobrekla: read teh blog anywya
Apr 15 22:48:33 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla must kidnap vegans, feed them slanina.
Apr 15 22:48:35 <joecool>	KRS1: raises cancer risk
Apr 15 22:48:39 <KRS1>	no shit
Apr 15 22:48:47 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu crossed my mind before
Apr 15 22:48:47 <pgp>	yes
Apr 15 22:48:49 <ThickAsThieves>	thats bullshit cmon
Apr 15 22:48:57 <KRS1>	wow...i gotta hit teh google on that one
Apr 15 22:49:04 <orkaa>	mircea_popescu, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fj3S53HuS6g/TuJ1RicnxkI/AAAAAAAAAOA/SmT71hseD78/s1600/Lamb+Tikka+Masala.jpg
Apr 15 22:49:06 <orkaa>	is this it?
Apr 15 22:49:10 <orkaa>	nomnomnom
Apr 15 22:49:13 <pgp>	vegan = higher risk of cancer - recent study...
Apr 15 22:49:20 <dub>	sample image http://24.media.tumblr.com/5df3e6568fcd5f6c0f41b797a3b17c9c/tumblr_mjl3p5VkRK1r4qrdyo3_1280.jpg
Apr 15 22:49:22 <mircea_popescu>	orkaa looks kinda shitty but maybe.
Apr 15 22:49:22 <orkaa>	pgp, urlpls
Apr 15 22:49:24 <ThickAsThieves>	bullshit study
Apr 15 22:49:32 <pgp>	j/k
Apr 15 22:49:33 <joecool>	ThickAsThieves: it's not, start reading this blog, plenty of studies linked http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/
Apr 15 22:49:40 <ThickAsThieves>	look up proportion of meat eaten in a country compared to cancer levels
Apr 15 22:49:53 <pgp>	70 gone
Apr 15 22:50:19 <pgp>	i guess my crystal ball isn't broken afterall...
Apr 15 22:50:39 <dub>	also http://24.media.tumblr.com/193181a821cfcd98d3c7a65edd04c843/tumblr_mjl3p5VkRK1r4qrdyo4_1280.jpg
Apr 15 22:50:56 <orkaa>	dick cancer, lol
Apr 15 22:51:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i will say that for some reason lately ive had trouble with energy, vegan and 3 hrs sleep isnt working :/
Apr 15 22:51:11 <orkaa>	just saw a guy on reddit had one
Apr 15 22:51:19 <joecool>	probably your insulin levels going fucking mad
Apr 15 22:51:29 <joecool>	riding that rollercoaster all day
Apr 15 22:51:55 <pgp>	68
Apr 15 22:52:01 <mircea_popescu>	i have a slave used to be vegetarian.
Apr 15 22:52:20 <dub>	now she gets a little sausage erryday?
Apr 15 22:52:28 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 15 22:52:32 <joecool>	! awesome, romania has slavery still
Apr 15 22:52:34 <pgp>	lol
Apr 15 22:52:42 <pgp>	67
Apr 15 22:52:45 <mircea_popescu>	dub now she eats prosciutto
Apr 15 22:52:47 <mircea_popescu>	and cooks beef.
Apr 15 22:52:54 <pgp>	66
Apr 15 22:53:21 <kakobrekla>	some biggish dumps yea
Apr 15 22:53:28 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 15 22:53:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 66.10000, Best ask: 66.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.70000, Last trade: 66.10000, 24 hour volume: 275365.83424234, 24 hour low: 66.55000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 84.22094
Apr 15 22:53:31 <dub>	I had some proper prosciutto recently, almost couldnt take it
Apr 15 22:53:39 <dub>	and I'll eat anything
Apr 15 22:53:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball Will being vegan kill me?
Apr 15 22:53:46 <gribble>	Unlikely.
Apr 15 22:53:50 <pgp>	jesus h christ...
Apr 15 22:53:53 <mircea_popescu>	it's great, what.
Apr 15 22:53:54 <dub>	home cured, never beeen near regrigeration
Apr 15 22:54:11 <joecool>	well the being vegan part won't kill you, the cancer you get from it will
Apr 15 22:54:11 <dub>	pretty much scraping maggots off it to eat
Apr 15 22:54:12 <joecool>	:D
Apr 15 22:54:13 <ThickAsThieves>	prosciutto is deliciois
Apr 15 22:54:17 <ThickAsThieves>	delicious
Apr 15 22:54:30 <ThickAsThieves>	as is chourico
Apr 15 22:54:39 <ThickAsThieves>	no vegan options for that stuff
Apr 15 22:54:42 <pgp>	;;eightball is ThickAsThieves REALLY a vegan?
Apr 15 22:54:42 <gribble>	It is possible.
Apr 15 22:55:15 <ThickAsThieves>	vegan 1 yr
Apr 15 22:55:20 <ThickAsThieves>	vegetarian 7
Apr 15 22:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	dub whart maggots ?!
Apr 15 22:55:42 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: have you seen the tofu meat replacement shitchina comes out with?
Apr 15 22:55:54 <dub>	'vegetarian pork chops' etc
Apr 15 22:55:54 <ThickAsThieves>	not sure
Apr 15 22:56:18 <dub>	they take tofu and flavour the shit out of it with nuclear waste
Apr 15 22:56:27 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 15 22:56:33 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 15 22:56:38 <ThickAsThieves>	not the biggest tofu fan
Apr 15 22:56:40 <orkaa>	meh, tofu
Apr 15 22:56:44 <pgp>	yes...  with U235
Apr 15 22:56:44 <ThickAsThieves>	we buy blocks sometimes
Apr 15 22:56:44 <dub>	tofu rules
Apr 15 22:56:48 <ThickAsThieves>	and cook ourselves
Apr 15 22:57:02 <orkaa>	yeah, me too
Apr 15 22:57:04 <ThickAsThieves>	like it firm
Apr 15 22:57:04 <dub>	tofu is the shit
Apr 15 22:57:12 <orkaa>	but you have to deep fry it to be eatable
Apr 15 22:57:15 <dub>	try using it in baking
Apr 15 22:57:23 <ThickAsThieves>	i hate baking
Apr 15 22:57:30 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm a stovetop guy
Apr 15 22:57:33 <pgp>	My wife like tofu - show's up on the dinner table now and again
Apr 15 22:57:33 <ThickAsThieves>	like most
Apr 15 22:57:46 <mircea_popescu>	tofu is illegal in romania.
Apr 15 22:57:52 <pgp>	lol
Apr 15 22:58:04 <dub>	gf hates tofu but I sneak it in here and there
Apr 15 22:58:06 <mircea_popescu>	also being a vegetarian, and other faggotry.
Apr 15 22:58:07 <pgp>	the food of freedom?
Apr 15 22:58:11 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 15 22:58:12 <KRS1>	pgp: so you never really have to eat out huh ;)
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Apr 15 22:58:28 <pgp>	?
Apr 15 22:58:33 <pgp>	I live in NYC
Apr 15 22:58:41 <mircea_popescu>	he eats her out like everyone else, what.
Apr 15 22:58:43 <KRS1>	your comment about tofu-
Apr 15 22:58:47 <KRS1>	lol mp got it
Apr 15 22:58:53 <ThickAsThieves>	everyone eats our his wife?
Apr 15 22:58:58 <mircea_popescu>	ouch
Apr 15 22:59:00 <pgp>	lol
Apr 15 22:59:02 <orkaa>	her cheese?
Apr 15 22:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.08 = 4.32 BTC [+]
Apr 15 22:59:02 <orkaa>	damn
Apr 15 22:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	unintended misinterpretations ftw.
Apr 15 22:59:09 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 15 22:59:12 <pgp>	lol
Apr 15 22:59:38 <pgp>	good one
Apr 15 22:59:45 <pgp>	72
Apr 15 22:59:49 <mircea_popescu>	so what's the ny-boston bombings score so far ?
Apr 15 22:59:50 <mircea_popescu>	i lost count.
Apr 15 23:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.08 = 2.16 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:00:19 <orkaa>	have you seen the nasty pics?
Apr 15 23:00:32 <ThickAsThieves>	there are nasty pics?
Apr 15 23:00:34 <orkaa>	NSFL: http://apina.biz/100150
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Apr 15 23:00:48 <mircea_popescu>	i've not looked. i'll survive uninformed.
Apr 15 23:01:07 <orkaa>	might be better, yep
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Apr 15 23:01:16 <ThickAsThieves>	there's a big event in jacksonville this weekend
Apr 15 23:01:26 <ThickAsThieves>	called OneSpark, with bombs in the logo...
Apr 15 23:01:43 <ThickAsThieves>	feel bad for those guys...
Apr 15 23:01:45 <pgp>	that can't be real
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Apr 15 23:01:59 <ThickAsThieves>	www.beonespark.com
Apr 15 23:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:02:07 <dub>	mircea_popescu: never watched a beheading vid?
Apr 15 23:02:29 <mircea_popescu>	sure, back in 1990s
Apr 15 23:02:32 <pgp>	I have seen that
Apr 15 23:02:33 <mircea_popescu>	seen one seen all imo
Apr 15 23:02:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i remember watching faces of death as a kid
Apr 15 23:02:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i survived
Apr 15 23:02:55 <pgp>	me
Apr 15 23:02:57 <pgp>	me too
Apr 15 23:02:58 <joecool>	boston fails it so hard, they shut down the city for lite brights, not even bother to check for bombs -_-
Apr 15 23:03:03 <dub>	faces of death lol
Apr 15 23:03:07 <dub>	staged as fuck
Apr 15 23:03:21 <ThickAsThieves>	never went back and watched as adult
Apr 15 23:03:24 <ThickAsThieves>	probly true
Apr 15 23:03:28 <dub>	the satanists eating girl scene LOL
Apr 15 23:03:36 <ThickAsThieves>	mostly i remember them eatying monkey brains
Apr 15 23:03:41 <joecool>	http://imgur.com/a/riTdO/ << more nsfl pics, the link above i believe that's same guy pic #3
Apr 15 23:03:44 <ThickAsThieves>	tapping the skull
Apr 15 23:03:53 <ThickAsThieves>	or maybe that was indian jones?
Apr 15 23:03:53 <joecool>	not dead, grabbing leg stub though
Apr 15 23:03:55 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 15 23:04:11 <ThickAsThieves>	indiana*
Apr 15 23:04:24 <dub>	yeah the monkey brains thing is real
Apr 15 23:05:03 <pgp>	boston photos are fucked up...
Apr 15 23:05:28 <dub>	meh, go look up some shit from whereve 'murica has started a war
Apr 15 23:05:28 <pgp>	the dude sans leg is brutal...
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Apr 15 23:06:21 <ThickAsThieves>	ok see i thought i saw all kindsa blood on the ground on the news, i was like did someone explode?
Apr 15 23:06:21 <joecool>	heh this would be business as usual in israel
Apr 15 23:06:22 <jcpham>	Taking a beating today
Apr 15 23:06:29 <pgp>	3 day low, btw
Apr 15 23:06:44 <joecool>	ThickAsThieves: aljazeera thought it was a gas main explosion
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Apr 15 23:07:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 274 @ 0.00069745 = 0.1911 BTC [-]
Apr 15 23:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00069735 = 0.7322 BTC [-]
Apr 15 23:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7374 @ 0.00069447 = 5.121 BTC [-]
Apr 15 23:07:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3202 @ 0.0006941 = 2.2225 BTC [-]
Apr 15 23:07:13 <orkaa>	so no terrorists took responsibility yet?
Apr 15 23:07:25 <Diablo-D3>	orkaa: Im thinking it was home grown
Apr 15 23:07:40 <ThickAsThieves>	they said something about a dark man trying to access secure area
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Apr 15 23:07:48 <ThickAsThieves>	yes it was that vague
Apr 15 23:07:57 <dub>	inb4 gun nuts protesting 2nd ammendment shit
Apr 15 23:08:00 <orkaa>	'dark man'
Apr 15 23:08:08 <dub>	haha
Apr 15 23:08:09 <orkaa>	of course
Apr 15 23:08:24 <ThickAsThieves>	fuckin dark people, get ya every time
Apr 15 23:08:25 <dub>	africanised killer bees
Apr 15 23:08:27 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: yeah its like
Apr 15 23:08:30 <Diablo-D3>	a dark skinned man
Apr 15 23:08:36 <Diablo-D3>	with possible accent
Apr 15 23:08:38 <dub>	no niggers in boston
Apr 15 23:08:43 <Diablo-D3>	wearing black hoodie and clothing
Apr 15 23:08:53 <Diablo-D3>	SOUNDS LIKE AN AVERAGE BOSTONIAN TO ME
Apr 15 23:08:55 <joecool>	dub: they call them haitians, they drive the taxis
Apr 15 23:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.51899 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:09:05 <joecool>	this is what it's like in bawston
Apr 15 23:09:13 <ThickAsThieves>	dpends what part
Apr 15 23:09:13 <Diablo-D3>	bawwstan
Apr 15 23:09:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i lived in southie and west boston, pretty different
Apr 15 23:09:28 <Diablo-D3>	and the news WAS reporting a third bomb at the jfk library
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Apr 15 23:09:32 <Diablo-D3>	and now no one is talking about
Apr 15 23:09:39 <Diablo-D3>	wtf happened
Apr 15 23:09:40 <Bugpowder>	WHHHHeeeeee
Apr 15 23:09:47 <joecool>	plenty of nigs in murderpan
Apr 15 23:09:55 <dub>	Diablo-D3: like hte plane that hit the pentagon
Apr 15 23:10:08 <ThickAsThieves>	spent some time in jamaice plain too
Apr 15 23:10:12 <ThickAsThieves>	lotsa dark men there
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Apr 15 23:10:20 <ThickAsThieves>	jamaica*
Apr 15 23:10:20 <joecool>	this is why the red line is disconnected from there
Apr 15 23:10:33 <Bugpowder>	seen this?
Apr 15 23:10:34 <Bugpowder>	http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=072_1366065507
Apr 15 23:11:08 <ThickAsThieves>	horrible
Apr 15 23:11:40 <Diablo-D3>	dub: yeah pretty fucking much
Apr 15 23:11:44 <kakobrekla>	i see a coke bottle
Apr 15 23:11:56 <Diablo-D3>	dub: fucking supernigger hijacked a cruise missile or some shit
Apr 15 23:11:59 <orkaa>	kakobrekla, it sure is dark
Apr 15 23:12:04 <ThickAsThieves>	in southie, they actually have flyers in shops for bareknuckle boxing matches, or at least they used to...
Apr 15 23:12:23 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Apr 15 23:12:25 <ThickAsThieves>	pics of two scrawny 20 yos
Apr 15 23:12:52 <joecool>	haven't had a lot of time in southie, mostly back bay
Apr 15 23:13:00 <ThickAsThieves>	boston is a great city, for a city
Apr 15 23:13:09 <orkaa>	btw, poor north korea, they're off the headlines today
Apr 15 23:13:12 <joecool>	went drinking in southie a few times, it's like full-retard boston
Apr 15 23:13:17 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Apr 15 23:13:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i lived on one of those alley streets
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Apr 15 23:14:17 <ThickAsThieves>	rented an attic room from a single mom who smoked pot in her bathroom
Apr 15 23:14:18 <joecool>	pretty much hated the time i was there, hate the city, hate that it shuts down pretty much at midnight, hate the people, hate the accent, yeah all pretty horrible
Apr 15 23:14:33 <joecool>	only plus side is you can actually walk, it's pretty small
Apr 15 23:14:44 <ThickAsThieves>	commuting is a nightmare
Apr 15 23:14:57 <ThickAsThieves>	and the cold
Apr 15 23:15:00 <ThickAsThieves>	gawd
Apr 15 23:15:03 <joecool>	rent was crazy high too
Apr 15 23:15:43 <ThickAsThieves>	like any big city
Apr 15 23:16:17 <pipeline>	uh
Apr 15 23:16:26 <pipeline>	not every big city has bad commuting
Apr 15 23:16:46 <joecool>	boston is especially bad
Apr 15 23:16:59 <pipeline>	yes
Apr 15 23:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.519 = 1.557 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:17:03 <joecool>	but i guess there could be worse, boston is low on my list of cities to drive in
Apr 15 23:17:04 <pipeline>	boston traffic is terrifying
Apr 15 23:17:09 <joecool>	but it's not philly or montreal bad
Apr 15 23:17:13 <pipeline>	i would rather drive in philly
Apr 15 23:17:17 <pipeline>	at least if i had an armored car
Apr 15 23:17:23 <pipeline>	the traffic in philly is pleasant by comparison
Apr 15 23:17:31 <pipeline>	and the roads more or less are straight, not cow-paths from the 16th century
Apr 15 23:17:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89899 BTC [-]
Apr 15 23:17:40 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 15 23:17:40 <joecool>	well yeah armored car in philly is a good idea
Apr 15 23:17:43 <joecool>	fuck using a gps unit
Apr 15 23:17:51 <joecool>	those roads defy all logic and science
Apr 15 23:18:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.00065 = 0.13 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:18:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 142 @ 0.000689 = 0.0978 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:18:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 696 @ 0.00069 = 0.4802 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:18:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 129 @ 0.000691 = 0.0891 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:18:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000695 = 0.0695 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:18:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 182 @ 0.000697 = 0.1269 BTC [+]
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Apr 15 23:18:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 18 @ 0.000698 = 0.0126 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:18:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 704 @ 0.000698 = 0.4914 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:18:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.0007 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:18:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 394 @ 0.000709 = 0.2793 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:18:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000709 = 0.0709 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:18:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00071 = 0.071 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:19:00 <joecool>	just don't make the mistake of hopping into camden at night
Apr 15 23:19:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1500 @ 0.000712 = 1.068 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:19:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 588 @ 0.000714 = 0.4198 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:19:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.00073 = 0.0219 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:19:16 <joecool>	that's a city they should just burn to the ground
Apr 15 23:19:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000746 = 0.0373 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:19:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000747 = 0.0224 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:19:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00075 = 0.0015 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:19:57 <joecool>	easier to build a replacement
Apr 15 23:20:12 <ThickAsThieves>	hmmm this is gonna go lower faster than i thought
Apr 15 23:21:24 <orkaa>	hm, i should go to sleep
Apr 15 23:21:37 <orkaa>	i can hear the morning busses
Apr 15 23:21:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 80 @ 0.00079 = 0.0632 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:21:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.00081 = 0.0065 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:21:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 41 @ 0.00081 = 0.0332 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:21:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00089 = 0.089 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:21:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.0009 = 0.0072 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:22:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.00096 = 0.048 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:22:07 <dub>	wat
Apr 15 23:22:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.00097 = 0.0078 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:22:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:23:28 <Bugpowder>	It might go faster than expected
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Apr 15 23:23:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 182 @ 0.00364763 = 0.6639 BTC [-]
Apr 15 23:23:54 <Bugpowder>	now that people see the inevitable coming up to meet them
Apr 15 23:24:05 <Bugpowder>	the last bubble chart is very clear
Apr 15 23:24:12 <Bugpowder>	people will probably try to front run it
Apr 15 23:24:13 <Bugpowder>	I know I did
Apr 15 23:24:24 <kakobrekla>	i agree
Apr 15 23:24:40 <kakobrekla>	also the pullback might be slightly faster
Apr 15 23:25:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i think there are a lot of people waiting for the bottom
Apr 15 23:25:22 <ThickAsThieves>	wonder how log it will last once we hit it
Apr 15 23:25:25 <ThickAsThieves>	long*
Apr 15 23:25:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3312 @ 0.00071199 = 2.3581 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:26:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4970 @ 0.0006941 = 3.4497 BTC [-]
Apr 15 23:26:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10330 @ 0.00069311 = 7.1598 BTC [-]
Apr 15 23:27:12 <Bugpowder>	remember, the psychological perspective of immediate post-pop last time was probably very similar to what we naturally are thinking now
Apr 15 23:27:18 <Bugpowder>	step ahead
Apr 15 23:27:33 <Bugpowder>	we need to think like the people 3 weeks after the pop
Apr 15 23:27:55 <dub>	;;goxlag
Apr 15 23:27:56 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 15 23:28:17 <dub>	gox right click unfucked the lag eh
Apr 15 23:28:36 <jcpham>	Easy peasy
Apr 15 23:28:49 <dub>	;;next
Apr 15 23:28:50 <gribble>	looking for retracement to 86 | buy targets: 74, 68, 54 | resistance 85-88, upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 1:44 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 hour, 44 minutes, and 48 seconds ago
Apr 15 23:28:58 <kakobrekla>	Bugpowder thats prolly somewhat true but certain conditions have changed
Apr 15 23:29:10 <Bugpowder>	conditions have changed
Apr 15 23:29:18 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin is in a much better place
Apr 15 23:29:18 <kakobrekla>	is one of the reasons why its going down faster
Apr 15 23:29:19 <jcpham>	so what did gox do to fix the lag
Apr 15 23:29:30 <Bugpowder>	of course, the valuation is 8x
Apr 15 23:29:31 <jcpham>	Or did everyone just give up?
Apr 15 23:29:42 <Bugpowder>	volume is extremely heavy
Apr 15 23:29:45 <Bugpowder>	they fixed the lag
Apr 15 23:29:51 <dub>	jcpham: new hardware, higher min trade, trade rate limits
Apr 15 23:29:51 <Bugpowder>	must have
Apr 15 23:29:53 <jcpham>	I thought so too
Apr 15 23:30:15 <Bugpowder>	dub oh?  higher min trade and rate limits?
Apr 15 23:30:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.00421 = 0.0674 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:30:37 <dub>	Bugpowder: yeah according to that neofutur shill
Apr 15 23:30:56 <joecool>	well new hardware didn't do shit tbh, rate limiting and putting a check to stop people bidding with empty wallets seemed to help
Apr 15 23:30:58 <joecool>	still sucks though
Apr 15 23:31:04 <joecool>	everything they do is crappy bandaid solutions
Apr 15 23:31:24 <dub>	I dont thing the balance check is in yet
Apr 15 23:31:30 <joecool>	support has a 3 day backlog, verifications has ~2 week backlog
Apr 15 23:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.519 = 7.266 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:32:18 <joecool>	i'm guessing they spent a good amount of money on pizza parties and don't have enough to fund all deposits
Apr 15 23:32:31 <Bugpowder>	luckily wire transfers out have 0 backlong
Apr 15 23:32:34 <Bugpowder>	backlog
Apr 15 23:32:35 <joecool>	so it's a cycle of sweating and eating pizza
Apr 15 23:32:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.89899 = 1.798 BTC [-]
Apr 15 23:32:40 <dub>	tux collection of diamond 20 sided dice
Apr 15 23:32:46 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 15 23:33:00 <Bugpowder>	I just bought 2500 magic cards for some used 5850s
Apr 15 23:33:07 <dub>	and gold leafe yugio cards
Apr 15 23:33:09 <kakobrekla>	dunno a friend of mine has been waiting sepa withdrawal 3 weeks now from gox
Apr 15 23:33:14 <joecool>	i tell them it's a 50/50 on whether they will be successful or in jail in a year
Apr 15 23:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	goes to 20/80 if you make it 3 years.
Apr 15 23:33:31 <Bugpowder>	wire
Apr 15 23:33:35 <Bugpowder>	the
Apr 15 23:33:37 <Bugpowder>	money
Apr 15 23:33:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.899 = 9.889 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	sepa is a wire.
Apr 15 23:33:54 <Bugpowder>	is it?
Apr 15 23:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 15 23:33:59 <Bugpowder>	y so slow then?
Apr 15 23:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	cause idiocy.
Apr 15 23:34:10 <mircea_popescu>	but basically it's faster cheaper wire.
Apr 15 23:34:23 <kakobrekla>	they are saying they are capped out at the polish bank iirc
Apr 15 23:34:24 <Bugpowder>	well they seem to have their shit together with US intl wire, at least for bofa
Apr 15 23:34:29 <kakobrekla>	which is bull
Apr 15 23:34:44 <Bugpowder>	what banks DON'T WANT you to wire them money?
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Apr 15 23:35:03 <kakobrekla>	its a withdrawal to be nitpicky
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Apr 15 23:35:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.89998 = 3.5999 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:35:30 <mircea_popescu>	basically you can't initiate a sepa wire except from an european bank or subsidiary
Apr 15 23:35:35 <mircea_popescu>	and mtgox is illegal in europe
Apr 15 23:35:38 <mircea_popescu>	that'd be the rub.
Apr 15 23:36:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.89999 = 8.0999 BTC [+]
Apr 15 23:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, catch all of you tomorrow.
Apr 15 23:37:17 <dub>	peace
Apr 15 23:37:59 <Bugpowder>	this selloff is brutal
Apr 15 23:38:07 <Bugpowder>	dude!
Apr 15 23:38:12 <Bugpowder>	you are going to miss the climax
Apr 15 23:38:22 <Bugpowder>	Bugpowder's investment return plot
Apr 15 23:38:31 <Bugpowder>	(brought to you by MPEx)
Apr 15 23:38:41 <kakobrekla>	:D
Apr 15 23:38:41 <dub>	wall moved lower
Apr 15 23:38:58 <dub>	fuck
Apr 15 23:39:07 <kakobrekla>	so bug, whats 3 weeks from now
Apr 15 23:39:17 <dub>	kinda want to sell here and rebuy but thsi asshole is gonna trap me
Apr 15 23:39:33 <Bugpowder>	3 weeks from now is 40
Apr 15 23:39:56 <Bugpowder>	1st guess
Apr 15 23:40:03 <Bugpowder>	need to think about it of course
Apr 15 23:40:37 <Bugpowder>	It has been shown that if you make a guess, pause, reconsider, then make a second guess, then average those two guesses, you are more accurate
Apr 15 23:40:54 <kakobrekla>	good info
Apr 15 23:41:07 <Bugpowder>	the average beats both the first or second guess, even if you have the same information
Apr 15 23:42:33 <Bugpowder>	I hope all my friends got out
Apr 15 23:42:43 <Bugpowder>	I told them all to sell this morning.
Apr 15 23:43:12 <Bugpowder>	dub I think there will be a bounce
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Apr 15 23:43:19 <dub>	yeah
Apr 15 23:43:26 <Bugpowder>	this downward move is too violent
Apr 15 23:43:28 <dub>	it will be right after I sell
Apr 15 23:43:32 <Bugpowder>	yes
Apr 15 23:43:33 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 15 23:44:00 <Bugpowder>	you never want to sell after a selloff has been going for quite a while
Apr 15 23:44:34 <Bugpowder>	but I would exit on the next sustained up move
Apr 15 23:44:54 <Bugpowder>	if I still had coins
Apr 15 23:45:18 <Bugpowder>	(not advice)
Apr 15 23:46:03 <jcpham>	Exit permanente?
Apr 15 23:46:13 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like we'll lose 60 soon
Apr 15 23:46:22 <jcpham>	That doesn't sound fun at all
Apr 15 23:46:41 <dub>	yes officer, this dude named after tim leary's herion metaphore on the internet gave me trading advice
Apr 15 23:46:50 <dub>	heroin*
Apr 15 23:47:12 <jcpham>	I did my ten percent metal thing this morning closer to 100
Apr 15 23:47:14 <Diablo-D3>	*metafore
Apr 15 23:47:27 <jcpham>	Still waiting on the big bubble
Apr 15 23:47:50 <dub>	Diablo-D3: orly
Apr 15 23:49:18 <jcpham>	I think dub's phonetic is more
Apr 15 23:49:27 <kakobrekla>	well luke will be reasonably priced soon
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Apr 15 23:49:39 <Bugpowder>	oh my
Apr 15 23:49:43 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: we're selling luke? to who?
Apr 15 23:49:58 <Bugpowder>	dub lol
Apr 15 23:50:04 <kakobrekla>	id get rid of him for free, but his coins are 25$ a pop
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Apr 15 23:55:43 <dub>	I suspect you'd have to pay to have him taken away
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Apr 15 23:57:05 <dub>	expecially now his loyal mouth breathing fanbase is realising what a spineless piece of shit he really is
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Apr 15 23:58:01 <ThickAsThieves>	lol clarkmoody cant keep up with gox now
Apr 15 23:58:16 <ThickAsThieves>	how things have changed
Apr 15 23:58:35 <ThickAsThieves>	here comes 60
Apr 16 00:01:43 <Bugpowder>	hooooly fuk
Apr 16 00:01:49 <jcpham>	BFL Shipping delayed!  Avalon batch #2 shipping instead. Preorder your Avalon Batch #4 unit now from www.butterflylabs.com PREORDER NOW!
Apr 16 00:02:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15999 BTC [+]
Apr 16 00:04:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 42 @ 0.00085 = 0.0357 BTC [-]
Apr 16 00:04:46 <ThickAsThieves>	soooo 50 tonight?
Apr 16 00:05:06 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Apr 16 00:05:13 <Bugpowder>	time to update my bid positioning
Apr 16 00:06:04 <pgp>	happening faster than i thought...
Apr 16 00:06:16 <BingoBoingo>	$30 tonight?
Apr 16 00:06:22 <pgp>	bp: what do you think?
Apr 16 00:06:42 <Bugpowder>	bounce off 50
Apr 16 00:06:46 <Bugpowder>	or a little before
Apr 16 00:07:06 <ThickAsThieves>	ugh i had a bid up at 65 i forgot about :/
Apr 16 00:07:11 <ThickAsThieves>	just 10btc
Apr 16 00:07:31 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 16 00:08:07 <ThickAsThieves>	guess i'll throw it into sdice or something
Apr 16 00:08:46 <ThickAsThieves>	myabe ltc
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Apr 16 00:09:05 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Apr 16 00:09:07 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Apr 16 00:09:23 <BingoBoingo>	;;bids 31
Apr 16 00:09:23 <gribble>	There are currently 119758.3 bitcoins demanded at or over 31.0 USD, worth 5378138.64252 USD in total. | Data vintage: 76.0023 seconds
Apr 16 00:09:45 <pgp>	thought I was going to bed, but...  not now!
Apr 16 00:10:29 <pgp>	started nibbling...
Apr 16 00:10:58 <Bugpowder>	combo should really be posting funny shit on the way down too
Apr 16 00:11:10 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hFTR6qyEo
Apr 16 00:11:14 <Bugpowder>	comboy
Apr 16 00:11:51 <Bugpowder>	who's got balls
Apr 16 00:12:29 <Bugpowder>	DRAINAAAGGGGEEEE
Apr 16 00:13:24 <pgp>	how bout that ...  new low...  a little sooner than I expected, but hey...
Apr 16 00:14:10 <Bugpowder>	come on hit 51
Apr 16 00:14:16 <Bugpowder>	;;goxlag
Apr 16 00:14:17 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 4.718365 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00945555063055 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).
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Apr 16 00:14:38 <kakobrekla>	you gonna play the bounce ?
Apr 16 00:15:16 <Bugpowder>	yeah if it hits my bid
Apr 16 00:15:17 <ThickAsThieves>	just did :)
Apr 16 00:15:19 <Bugpowder>	not going to chase
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Apr 16 00:15:53 <ThickAsThieves>	!!!
Apr 16 00:15:56 <pgp>	got hit on a few....  dump @ 75 i think
Apr 16 00:16:10 <ThickAsThieves>	this is awesome
Apr 16 00:16:16 <kakobrekla>	insane
Apr 16 00:16:50 <joecool>	lawl
Apr 16 00:16:58 <pgp>	love this shit
Apr 16 00:18:31 <dub>	ok I sold, rally tiem
Apr 16 00:18:42 <BingoBoingo>	Amazing how much Gox volume goes up during the dump compared to the pump
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Apr 16 00:19:05 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Apr 16 00:19:06 <kakobrekla>	win
Apr 16 00:19:10 <kakobrekla>	save this shit.
Apr 16 00:19:47 <dub>	wat
Apr 16 00:21:25 <pgp>	;;bids 0
Apr 16 00:21:27 <gribble>	There are currently 1.4949085e+08 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9205599.73702 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0073 seconds
Apr 16 00:21:42 <pgp>	;;bids 32
Apr 16 00:21:42 <gribble>	There are currently 109632.5 bitcoins demanded at or over 32.0 USD, worth 4917901.49301 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.3855 seconds
Apr 16 00:21:54 <BingoBoingo>	;;asks 100
Apr 16 00:21:54 <gribble>	There are currently 39987.858 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 3583841.64823 USD in total. | Data vintage: 27.9782 seconds
Apr 16 00:22:04 <pgp>	;; asks 90
Apr 16 00:22:05 <gribble>	There are currently 21081.017 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 1758970.10539 USD in total. | Data vintage: 38.2239 seconds
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Apr 16 00:24:17 <BingoBoingo>	;;asks 75
Apr 16 00:24:21 <gribble>	There are currently 2987.6923 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 214148.927157 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0046 seconds
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Apr 16 00:26:38 <BingoBoingo>	I'll throw this auction thread link here while the coin's falling... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177234.0
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Apr 16 00:27:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.09621 = 0.4811 BTC [-]
Apr 16 00:27:09 <ThickAsThieves>	what no one wants to dump anymore?
Apr 16 00:27:10 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
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Apr 16 00:30:30 <pgp>	more dumping coming
Apr 16 00:32:36 <BingoBoingo>	;;bids 21.33
Apr 16 00:32:37 <gribble>	There are currently 152823.04 bitcoins demanded at or over 21.33 USD, worth 6120457.60253 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.1939 seconds
Apr 16 00:33:22 <pgp>	glad I didn't pay my registration fee yet for bitcoin 2013...  getting cheaper by the moment...
Apr 16 00:33:27 <dub>	boom .46% fee tier
Apr 16 00:33:37 <ThickAsThieves>	are yo going?
Apr 16 00:33:44 <ThickAsThieves>	was considering it
Apr 16 00:33:48 <pgp>	and that MPEX exchange membership looking tastier, too...
Apr 16 00:33:49 <ThickAsThieves>	havent been to CA in a long time
Apr 16 00:33:50 <pgp>	yes
Apr 16 00:34:01 <pgp>	definately going
Apr 16 00:34:08 <dub>	how much to pie Amir
Apr 16 00:34:27 <BingoBoingo>	Amir still welcome?
Apr 16 00:34:41 <dub>	he's not organising it?
Apr 16 00:34:43 <pgp>	look at this rollover
Apr 16 00:34:50 <dub>	why would he not be welcome?
Apr 16 00:34:52 <pgp>	glad I got flat again
Apr 16 00:35:11 <pgp>	oops take that back - just got long again
Apr 16 00:35:47 <BingoBoingo>	I though Amir... that consultancy thing...
Apr 16 00:36:40 <dub>	BingoBoingo: theres certainly many good reasons he shoul dnot be welcome, probably should be shot on sight
Apr 16 00:37:47 <BingoBoingo>	Still kind of new to bitcoin, these last two weeks have been my first crash... Just going off of the reading
Apr 16 00:38:28 <dub>	well good call, nobody should be giving him the time of day
Apr 16 00:38:42 <pgp>	this kind of vol is better than drugs...
Apr 16 00:41:03 <BingoBoingo>	dub I do have to say I am amazed how much more exciting the crash is the the ascension
Apr 16 00:42:35 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Apr 16 00:43:01 <pgp>	much wider distribution this time around - make for more interesting (and unexpected) liquidity dynamics
Apr 16 00:43:07 <KRS1>	how long is this dump gonna run for jeez
Apr 16 00:43:24 <pgp>	days
Apr 16 00:43:32 <BingoBoingo>	weeks
Apr 16 00:43:43 <pgp>	weeks, prolly, before we put in a solid bottom
Apr 16 00:44:39 <ThickAsThieves>	cmoooon dump
Apr 16 00:45:14 <pgp>	sell, noobs, sell!
Apr 16 00:46:27 <pgp>	and for some light humor:
Apr 16 00:46:45 <pgp>	clark moody: I'm a 25 year old guy from College Station, Texas. I am married to the most wonderful woman in the world, and I love Jesus.
Apr 16 00:47:48 <pgp>	the problem with his site is you can bookmark th chart page - you are FORCED to see the same shit again and again...
Apr 16 00:47:53 <dub>	wat
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Apr 16 00:48:42 <pgp>	up?  really?
Apr 16 00:49:11 <ThickAsThieves>	its a trap
Apr 16 00:49:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.89899 = 3.596 BTC [-]
Apr 16 00:49:46 <pgp>	i'd sell except that my coins are in transit :-(
Apr 16 00:50:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89998 BTC [+]
Apr 16 00:50:54 <Bugpowder>	bottomoing
Apr 16 00:51:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]
Apr 16 00:51:42 <pgp>	you think?  dampening oscillations, yes, but bottoming?
Apr 16 00:51:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.888 = 7.104 BTC [-]
Apr 16 00:52:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.888 = 1.776 BTC [-]
Apr 16 00:53:10 <pgp>	i havent been following ASICMINER recently, but seems like the price has moved up nicely of last few days, why would that be?
Apr 16 00:53:42 <ThickAsThieves>	drop in USD/BTC
Apr 16 00:53:50 <dub>	another 50th supposed to deploy this week
Apr 16 00:53:52 <ThickAsThieves>	and USBminer pic
Apr 16 00:53:55 <dub>	200th more ordered
Apr 16 00:54:02 <pgp>	right, so miner margins shrink
Apr 16 00:54:05 <ThickAsThieves>	50th earliest date is 22nd i think
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Apr 16 00:54:15 <dub>	yeah and pics of retarded mini miner thing
Apr 16 00:54:20 <dub>	gets forum tards jerking
Apr 16 00:54:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i think its cute :p
Apr 16 00:54:39 <dub>	its incredibly stupid
Apr 16 00:54:45 <pgp>	lol
Apr 16 00:55:05 <dub>	300mh, USB for power
Apr 16 00:55:12 <dub>	100% retarded
Apr 16 00:55:21 <pgp>	so it in anticipation of them adding 40% to network hash rate?
Apr 16 00:55:50 <dub>	and selling mining units, retarded or not
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Apr 16 00:56:08 <dub>	people are assuming profit from that will be distributed
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Apr 16 00:56:33 <ThickAsThieves>	he didnt even say when any of the retail offerings would be available
Apr 16 00:56:36 <ThickAsThieves>	could me mos
Apr 16 00:56:38 <ThickAsThieves>	be*
Apr 16 00:57:01 <dub>	they are doing a BFL impression currently
Apr 16 00:57:29 <Bugpowder>	come on bounceeee
Apr 16 00:57:31 <pgp>	ASIC technology: real
Apr 16 00:57:43 <pgp>	product availability: vapor
Apr 16 00:58:27 <pgp>	bp: got long?
Apr 16 00:58:35 <Bugpowder>	come on
Apr 16 00:58:40 <Bugpowder>	just a bit more
Apr 16 00:59:01 <ThickAsThieves>	that you at 68.5?
Apr 16 00:59:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00071149 = 2.2412 BTC [+]
Apr 16 00:59:12 <pgp>	$73 will be top
Apr 16 00:59:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont see it going that high
Apr 16 00:59:51 <Bugpowder>	68.8
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Apr 16 01:02:18 <Bugpowder>	68.77
Apr 16 01:02:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.889 = 2.667 BTC [+]
Apr 16 01:03:23 <BingoBoingo>	A chain fork would be just awesome right now...
Apr 16 01:03:34 <pgp>	lol
Apr 16 01:03:47 <Bugpowder>	shit
Apr 16 01:04:15 <pgp>	c'mon back down, baby....   come to papa!
Apr 16 01:04:54 <BitHub>	heh chain forking
Apr 16 01:05:20 <BingoBoingo>	On May 15th it will become very possible to mine a forking transaction again...
Apr 16 01:05:34 <pgp>	bp: sell, you buy it back cheaper in 10 min
Apr 16 01:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3822 @ 0.00069911 = 2.672 BTC [-]
Apr 16 01:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3378 @ 0.00069871 = 2.3602 BTC [-]
Apr 16 01:06:49 <InstantBTC>	according to bitcoinforecast
Apr 16 01:06:53 <InstantBTC>	bitcoins going to -42
Apr 16 01:06:54 <InstantBTC>	lol
Apr 16 01:07:07 <InstantBTC>	oh looky there. -43 now
Apr 16 01:07:50 <Bugpowder>	yeah here we go
Apr 16 01:08:11 <Bugpowder>	68.77
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Apr 16 01:13:11 <Bugpowder>	that was a lot of stress for a $45 profit
Apr 16 01:13:24 <pgp>	whoosh!
Apr 16 01:13:58 <pgp>	lol
Apr 16 01:14:10 <pgp>	a least you got out in a timely fashion
Apr 16 01:14:27 <pgp>	here comes cheaper coin
Apr 16 01:14:38 <Bugpowder>	yeah I think I did that
Apr 16 01:14:45 <Bugpowder>	got us back down to 63.5
Apr 16 01:15:14 <pgp>	cheeeeaaaap coin!
Apr 16 01:15:15 <Bugpowder>	I tried pushing the market up with a wall at 58, but I got too scared
Apr 16 01:15:23 <pgp>	like mana from heaven
Apr 16 01:15:28 <Bugpowder>	that a 10k order would go off and sell into me
Apr 16 01:15:35 <Bugpowder>	an I would be fucked
Apr 16 01:15:52 <Bugpowder>	wanted to hold it till bitcoinity updated but pussed out.
Apr 16 01:15:53 <pgp>	yes sir - that would suck
Apr 16 01:16:01 <pgp>	lol
Apr 16 01:16:56 <pgp>	but this is where money gets made - lots of vol and liquidity
Apr 16 01:17:08 <pgp>	c'mon 50's
Apr 16 01:17:17 <BingoBoingo>	c'mon 20's
Apr 16 01:17:54 <Bugpowder>	market is apeshit right now
Apr 16 01:18:08 <BingoBoingo>	Not quite apeshit enough for my taste
Apr 16 01:18:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.00421 = 0.0674 BTC [+]
Apr 16 01:18:53 <pgp>	yep, and despite the book depth, i think i definately trades lower here
Apr 16 01:19:20 <pgp>	maybe not
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Apr 16 01:19:31 <pgp>	oscillating
Apr 16 01:20:32 <Bugpowder>	yeahhhh
Apr 16 01:21:13 <Bugpowder>	people be chasin
Apr 16 01:21:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.16 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Apr 16 01:23:55 <pgp>	margin loan demand has totally deflated over at bitfinex
Apr 16 01:24:05 <Bugpowder>	left some on the table
Apr 16 01:24:06 <Bugpowder>	shit
Apr 16 01:24:48 <Bugpowder>	too high now
Apr 16 01:25:39 <Bugpowder>	oh man
Apr 16 01:25:45 <Bugpowder>	left a lot on the table
Apr 16 01:25:47 <pgp>	it'll come back
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Apr 16 01:26:04 <Bugpowder>	I had asks at 66.8
Apr 16 01:26:09 <Bugpowder>	sold at 64
Apr 16 01:26:10 <Bugpowder>	lame
Apr 16 01:26:34 <pgp>	cant gt it perfect evry time
Apr 16 01:26:45 <pgp>	just sayin'
Apr 16 01:27:22 <pgp>	although if it trade much higher from here, could be a break out
Apr 16 01:27:40 <pgp>	where are buy stops when you need them?
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Apr 16 01:28:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.189 BTC [+]
Apr 16 01:28:39 <Bugpowder>	I feel like panic dump is over
Apr 16 01:28:46 <Bugpowder>	now its just traders grindin'
Apr 16 01:29:30 <pgp>	prolly - gonna watch next oscillation and go to bed...
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Apr 16 01:30:17 <InstantBTC>	I feel wealthy
Apr 16 01:31:06 <pgp>	btw, this tape is some much easier to read than anything irl - not that this isn't "real", but you know what I mean
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Apr 16 01:31:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.1875 = 0.75 BTC [-]
Apr 16 01:32:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.05517 = 0.1103 BTC [-]
Apr 16 01:32:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.05501 = 0.22 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 01:32:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1889 BTC [+]
Apr 16 01:33:18 <bgupta>	curious at what price point.. does GPU mining become unprofitable?
Apr 16 01:33:51 <pgp>	someone asked that earlier... dunno, but its low
Apr 16 01:33:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 28 @ 0.41 = 11.48 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 01:34:25 <pgp>	marginal electricty and bandwidth costs, which are still low relatively
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Apr 16 01:34:51 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 16 01:34:51 <gribble>	63023.882158
Apr 16 01:34:53 <pgp>	assuming equipment is sunk cost and not renteed
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Apr 16 01:35:02 <ThickAsThieves>	was 68000 last week
Apr 16 01:35:05 <ThickAsThieves>	for what its worth
Apr 16 01:35:17 <pgp>	hasn't moved much in 2 weeks
Apr 16 01:35:36 <pgp>	where are the asics hiding?
Apr 16 01:36:18 <ThickAsThieves>	china
Apr 16 01:36:22 <BingoBoingo>	The ASICs are probably still hiding with the people that got customer cash to make them
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Apr 16 01:40:05 <Bugpowder>	oscillation is over
Apr 16 01:40:08 <Bugpowder>	now what
Apr 16 01:40:15 <ThickAsThieves>	drop
Apr 16 01:40:21 <Bugpowder>	I just want to make 1 more trade
Apr 16 01:40:25 <Bugpowder>	to hit 0.3%
Apr 16 01:40:37 <ThickAsThieves>	dang
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Apr 16 01:40:41 <ThickAsThieves>	not bad
Apr 16 01:40:56 <Bugpowder>	rich get richer
Apr 16 01:41:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont have the balls to gamble my kitty yet
Apr 16 01:41:21 <ThickAsThieves>	waiting for lower
Apr 16 01:41:37 <Bugpowder>	everyone wants to go to bed
Apr 16 01:41:41 <ThickAsThieves>	if i miss bottom, oh well, i cash out
Apr 16 01:42:21 <Bugpowder>	cancelling bids
Apr 16 01:42:26 <Bugpowder>	prepare for a drop
Apr 16 01:42:41 <Bugpowder>	lets see if it makes a difference
Apr 16 01:43:26 <Bugpowder>	meh
Apr 16 01:44:33 <ThickAsThieves>	irony being that if we cancel bids to go to bed, it makes it easier for price to do what we want
Apr 16 01:45:14 <BingoBoingo>	Yeah It's probably time to take some temezapam and see if anyone feeds the bids I have at $19.75 before I come to
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Apr 16 01:48:49 <Bugpowder>	well I think we are at a short term bottom
Apr 16 01:49:16 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah i'm done
Apr 16 01:49:19 <ThickAsThieves>	gnite
Apr 16 01:49:46 <Bugpowder>	0.3%!
Apr 16 01:50:11 <dub>	what volume is that 5k?
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Apr 16 01:54:28 <Bugpowder>	10
Apr 16 01:54:50 <dub>	baller
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Apr 16 01:56:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00070824 = 4.1786 BTC [+]
Apr 16 01:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00070824 = 1.6998 BTC [+]
Apr 16 01:57:18 <dub>	adds up quickly, im only trading with 20 coins for a couple hours a day with 1k volume
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Apr 16 02:00:05 <Bugpowder>	yeah
Apr 16 02:00:12 <Bugpowder>	I just trade 1 coin back and forth
Apr 16 02:01:06 <Bugpowder>	ok.  I made $1k. Done for the night.  shoulda held out for more!
Apr 16 02:01:11 <Bugpowder>	later
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Apr 16 02:11:21 <BitHub>	hehe
Apr 16 02:11:43 <Bugpowder>	oh fuck
Apr 16 02:11:54 <Bugpowder>	I got tagged on that one
Apr 16 02:11:59 <Bugpowder>	59.95
Apr 16 02:12:13 <Bugpowder>	Accident
Apr 16 02:12:24 <Bugpowder>	just trying to pump up the bid wall.
Apr 16 02:12:34 <Bugpowder>	Hiding behind 8500 BTC of bids
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Apr 16 02:13:46 <Bugpowder>	Accidental profit!
Apr 16 02:14:21 <Bugpowder>	that was surprisingly successful, in the opposite way I expected.
Apr 16 02:17:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8317 @ 0.00070824 = 5.8904 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 02:25:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.42 = 4.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 02:33:10 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 16 02:33:11 <gribble>	There are currently 48538180 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9822992.39115 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.6431 seconds
Apr 16 02:33:39 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 16 02:33:39 <gribble>	potential double bottom, watching depth | eventually looking for retracement to 86 | resistance 85-88, upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 5:47 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 46 minutes and 37 seconds ago
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Apr 16 02:50:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0041 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 02:51:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [-]
Apr 16 02:51:54 <bgupta>	Bugpowder: you trying to catch a falling knife? or trying to play the swings?
Apr 16 02:54:15 <bgupta>	ah read back nvm
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Apr 16 02:56:21 <deadweasel>	 ;;ticker
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Apr 16 03:02:59 <taub>	wha
Apr 16 03:03:05 <taub>	did mtgox go into shutdown overnight?
Apr 16 03:03:28 <deadweasel>	dunno, did they?
Apr 16 03:03:42 <taub>	no wait, nevermind
Apr 16 03:03:47 <taub>	didnt ready my chart right
Apr 16 03:04:40 <bgupta>	new "post bubble" low
Apr 16 03:04:49 <BitHub>	people are just leaving mt gox now
Apr 16 03:04:54 <BitHub>	taking their bits elsewhere
Apr 16 03:05:06 <deadweasel>	sure enough.
Apr 16 03:05:31 <deadweasel>	52.50
Apr 16 03:05:54 <BitHub>	the people have had enough
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Apr 16 03:11:26 <taub>	you think? why would it be now though
Apr 16 03:11:33 <taub>	when mtgxo has been working
Apr 16 03:12:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00891 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 03:15:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.9 = 1.8 BTC [+]
Apr 16 03:17:20 <deadweasel>	cos they know they won't be able to trade when it matters.
Apr 16 03:17:26 <bgupta>	449k btc volume on MtGox...
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Apr 16 03:22:18 <deadweasel>	think we go to 32$?  lower?
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Apr 16 03:24:52 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Apr 16 03:24:55 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231607 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 232 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 7 hours, 38 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8993160.83528 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.20528
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Apr 16 03:28:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC [+]
Apr 16 03:28:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 37 @ 0.09621 = 3.5598 BTC [-]
Apr 16 03:29:18 <jurov>	$oix
Apr 16 03:29:28 <jurov>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 16 03:29:29 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 116.42820173 / 257.8190699 / 297.45909407 (5383 shares, 718.93 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 16 03:29:54 <jurov>	no wonder everyone uses ;;next
Apr 16 03:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00070824 = 3.3287 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 03:32:48 <bgupta>	deadweasel: I'd have to have a lot of USD and btc in my pocket to say where the price will go next.
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Apr 16 03:33:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 169 @ 0.01 = 1.69 BTC [+]
Apr 16 03:33:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.9 = 3.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 03:41:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.42 = 2.1 BTC [+]
Apr 16 03:42:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.00428 = 0.1284 BTC [+]
Apr 16 03:42:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00428 = 0.0086 BTC [+]
Apr 16 03:46:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10228 @ 0.00070635 = 7.2245 BTC [-]
Apr 16 03:46:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1072 @ 0.00070023 = 0.7506 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 03:48:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.1499 = 0.7495 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 04:02:09 <b0n1>	woow just woke up... what a low
Apr 16 04:02:41 <b0n1>	perfect time to buy
Apr 16 04:03:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 04:08:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00070023 = 1.0503 BTC [-]
Apr 16 04:08:21 <bgupta>	While it may be the perfect time to buy, it's equally arguable that it's the perfect time to sell. Ask me in a day or two.. and I'll tell you which it was.
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Apr 16 04:08:55 <dub>	;;next
Apr 16 04:08:56 <gribble>	eventually looking for retracement to 86 | buy target 46 | resistance 85-88, upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 7:04 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 54 seconds ago
Apr 16 04:09:42 <dub>	oops just changed
Apr 16 04:09:45 <dub>	;;next
Apr 16 04:09:46 <gribble>	50/50 cash/btc can help ride the unpredictable swings | buy target 46 | resistance 85-88, upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 8:09 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 44 seconds ago
Apr 16 04:10:46 <dub>	;;ticker
Apr 16 04:10:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.07000, Best ask: 59.39899, Bid-ask spread: 0.32899, Last trade: 59.07000, 24 hour volume: 473958.26887292, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 100.90000, 24 hour vwap: 71.72748
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Apr 16 04:16:06 <bgupta>	I believe the general consensus is that price will keep testing low, until it decides which way to go. (Not very insightful, I know.) So one could have a short term trading strategy to play those bounces. ATM I believe we are at the mid-high end of a bounce.
Apr 16 04:17:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00429 = 0.0215 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 04:37:50 <bitesak>	if ti drops below 31,9 that is a very bearish sign. That's all I know :)
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Apr 16 04:45:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00070824 = 6.4804 BTC [+]
Apr 16 04:46:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Apr 16 04:46:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.9199 = 4.5995 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 04:49:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 31 @ 0.92 = 28.52 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 05:08:21 <error4733>	bugpowder i hate you
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Apr 16 05:14:06 <bitesak>	whathe do?
Apr 16 05:14:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 35 @ 0.42 = 14.7 BTC [+]
Apr 16 05:15:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.43 = 2.58 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 05:23:39 <error4733>	he call 50$ yesterday
Apr 16 05:23:59 <error4733>	he even call 30$ :/
Apr 16 05:28:00 <bitesak>	he's not always right though :)
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Apr 16 05:29:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C302T] 1000 @ 0.05 = 50 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 05:52:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00070824 = 4.037 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 05:57:18 <Bugpowder>	sweet
Apr 16 05:57:22 <Bugpowder>	I got filled
Apr 16 05:57:30 <Bugpowder>	at 52.25 and 51.22
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Apr 16 06:00:54 <bitesak>	buying?
Apr 16 06:00:57 <Bugpowder>	no
Apr 16 06:01:00 <Bugpowder>	dumping now
Apr 16 06:01:02 <Bugpowder>	just a trad
Apr 16 06:01:03 <bitesak>	ah
Apr 16 06:01:14 <Bugpowder>	figured it would bounce off 51
Apr 16 06:01:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070737 = 0.9196 BTC [-]
Apr 16 06:01:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 9 @ 0.2035 = 1.8315 BTC [+]
Apr 16 06:01:45 <bitesak>	next stop 30?
Apr 16 06:02:01 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 16 06:02:02 <gribble>	50/50 cash/btc can help ride the unpredictable swings | buy target 46 | resistance 60, 70, 85-88, upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 9:31 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 31 minutes and 0 seconds ago
Apr 16 06:02:22 <Bugpowder>	32 is where I START buying for long term
Apr 16 06:02:39 <Bugpowder>	annnd out of the position
Apr 16 06:03:08 <Bugpowder>	I probably should have slept in longer
Apr 16 06:03:15 <Bugpowder>	may have made more money
Apr 16 06:03:28 <bitesak>	sit on your hands
Apr 16 06:03:55 <Bugpowder>	back to 0BTC
Apr 16 06:04:10 <Bugpowder>	will there be a second bounce off 50/
Apr 16 06:04:11 <Bugpowder>	?
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Apr 16 06:04:51 <Bugpowder>	HOLY SHIT!
Apr 16 06:05:03 <Bugpowder>	someone even bought my C302Ts!!!
Apr 16 06:05:32 <Bugpowder>	mwa haha
Apr 16 06:06:49 <Bugpowder>	oh wow
Apr 16 06:06:54 <Bugpowder>	we HIT 50.00?
Apr 16 06:06:56 <Bugpowder>	;;ticker
Apr 16 06:06:57 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 56.00001, Best ask: 56.59999, Bid-ask spread: 0.59998, Last trade: 56.59999, 24 hour volume: 510142.17915952, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 100.89000, 24 hour vwap: 70.21644
Apr 16 06:07:03 <Bugpowder>	50.01
Apr 16 06:07:11 <Bugpowder>	yeah…. that looks super weak then
Apr 16 06:07:25 <Bugpowder>	there were big walls at 51
Apr 16 06:08:58 <deyyo_>	looking forward to 30 :P
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Apr 16 06:11:51 <bitesak>	30? that would be funny
Apr 16 06:12:10 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 16 06:12:12 <gribble>	There are currently 52821045 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10562901.383 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0069 seconds
Apr 16 06:13:01 <bitesak>	USD is creeping up at least
Apr 16 06:13:49 <Bugpowder>	still a lot of bid support at 50
Apr 16 06:14:00 <Bugpowder>	that all got put up after it was cleaned out.
Apr 16 06:14:04 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Apr 16 06:14:24 <Bugpowder>	I might try to get another round of BTC just above 50
Apr 16 06:14:29 <Bugpowder>	for a second bounce trade
Apr 16 06:15:02 <Bugpowder>	50 might be low enough to spark buying when USA wakes up.
Apr 16 06:15:07 <Bugpowder>	or panic ;)
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Apr 16 06:19:21 <Bugpowder>	Going to try to poach the dip at 51.31 and 52.61
Apr 16 06:19:32 <Bugpowder>	good luck!
Apr 16 06:23:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.92 = 4.6 BTC [+]
Apr 16 06:23:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.94 = 20.68 BTC [+]
Apr 16 06:23:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.94 = 1.88 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 06:29:22 <error4733>	;;eightball bugpowder is right ?
Apr 16 06:29:22 <gribble>	Come again?
Apr 16 06:29:26 <error4733>	;;eightball bugpowder is right ?
Apr 16 06:29:27 <gribble>	The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
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Apr 16 06:30:23 <error4733>	;;bids 29.9
Apr 16 06:30:24 <gribble>	There are currently 138231.8 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.9 USD, worth 5876755.48365 USD in total. | Data vintage: 29.5522 seconds
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Apr 16 06:32:54 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 16 06:32:58 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 18.852396 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0377799905021 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Apr 16 06:37:18 <Scrat>	4k dumped
Apr 16 06:37:33 <Bugpowder>	i should have slept in longer
Apr 16 06:38:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 521 @ 0.00364763 = 1.9004 BTC [-]
Apr 16 06:39:53 <ThickAsThieves>	i think we'll see 70 before 50
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Apr 16 06:42:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.889001 = 2.667 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 06:47:53 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: looks likely...
Apr 16 06:47:58 <Bugpowder>	DAMN
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Apr 16 06:48:22 <Bugpowder>	sold my stuff I bought at 51 at 58.
Apr 16 06:48:47 <ThickAsThieves>	me too
Apr 16 06:49:04 <ThickAsThieves>	noticed the reversal too late
Apr 16 06:49:15 <Bugpowder>	not going to chase the bounce though
Apr 16 06:49:27 <Bugpowder>	Made a good play in my sleep
Apr 16 06:49:39 <ThickAsThieves>	at least we're  up
Apr 16 06:49:42 <Bugpowder>	should have kept sleeping and my highers asks would have gotten hit on the bouce
Apr 16 06:49:56 <Bugpowder>	At least I went 100% fiat yesterday at 94
Apr 16 06:50:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00070737 = 2.9002 BTC [-]
Apr 16 06:50:20 <ThickAsThieves>	i got some for 51 on bitfloor overnight
Apr 16 06:50:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00070023 = 0.4902 BTC [-]
Apr 16 06:50:32 <Bugpowder>	did you see that I sold my calls too
Apr 16 06:50:42 <Bugpowder>	almost no loss on my C302Ts
Apr 16 06:50:55 <ThickAsThieves>	yep :)
Apr 16 06:51:00 <Bugpowder>	people are desperate to trade calls that are not insanely priced.
Apr 16 06:51:08 <Bugpowder>	or puts for that matter
Apr 16 06:51:27 <Bugpowder>	That's probably a good place to make money if you are keeping it in BTC
Apr 16 06:51:54 <Bugpowder>	selling short calls and puts right now with only a massive premium instead of an insane one.
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Apr 16 07:00:22 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: 70 might be a bit rich actually…  People will definitely want to buy at 50, but at 69?  At 69 people are probably counting their blessings that they can sell the bounce.
Apr 16 07:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder you're making the mistake of thinking "people" are like you.
Apr 16 07:01:13 <mircea_popescu>	the vast majority of bitcvoin holders don't give a shit what the price is.
Apr 16 07:01:17 <Bugpowder>	I have made very few mistakes tonight
Apr 16 07:01:21 <Bugpowder>	actually
Apr 16 07:01:32 <Bugpowder>	and the vast majority are in a panic
Apr 16 07:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Apr 16 07:01:41 <Bugpowder>	the big dogs might not be
Apr 16 07:01:51 <mircea_popescu>	the 1% or so bitcoins that are held by noobs really don't matter in any serious discussion.
Apr 16 07:02:04 <Bugpowder>	are you talking people or talking total bitcoins
Apr 16 07:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	total bitcoins.
Apr 16 07:02:12 <Bugpowder>	that's different
Apr 16 07:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	this is money. people don't matter.
Apr 16 07:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	well...
Apr 16 07:02:40 <Bugpowder>	half the top 500 addresses didn't move during the whole bubble
Apr 16 07:02:45 <Bugpowder>	I saw that somewhere
Apr 16 07:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Apr 16 07:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	buncha noobs got tjhemselves into a tizzy. nobody really caresd.
Apr 16 07:03:13 <Bugpowder>	but if they didn't move on the way up or the way down, they aren't participating in the market
Apr 16 07:03:31 <mircea_popescu>	the mtgox "market" is very decoupled from economic reality, as it happens.
Apr 16 07:03:35 <Bugpowder>	and my goal is to make $ and coins from the price movement
Apr 16 07:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	i don't imagine a recoupling is ever likely at any rate.
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Apr 16 07:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	i know your goal is to try and speculate, but this makes you not part of bitcoin in any meaningful sense.
Apr 16 07:04:27 <Bugpowder>	hence, the people that are market participants are the people I'm thinking about, since they are pushing the price around.
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Apr 16 07:04:43 <mircea_popescu>	well...
Apr 16 07:05:04 <Bugpowder>	Define meaningful
Apr 16 07:05:07 <deadweasel>	i'd rather be profitable than be part of something in a meaningful sense.
Apr 16 07:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder meaningful, as in having a price signal. you're currently unable to make any sort of judgement as to what bitcoin price should be other than "what are others thinking"
Apr 16 07:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	thus you're not participating in price formation
Apr 16 07:05:58 <mircea_popescu>	you're merely participating in volatility formation.
Apr 16 07:06:06 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel nothing wrong with that.
Apr 16 07:06:16 <mircea_popescu>	the only problem is that it doesn't work longterm. might as well play s.dice.
Apr 16 07:06:55 <deadweasel>	i agree.  but for some reason this has worked out better.
Apr 16 07:07:02 <Bugpowder>	I think economic activity associated with bitcoin currently supports a price of ~30
Apr 16 07:07:04 <mircea_popescu>	well, that's the nature of chance. sometimes it works.
Apr 16 07:07:12 <mircea_popescu>	conversely, the nature of people is to infer patterns in chance.
Apr 16 07:07:13 <Bugpowder>	and we will see an undershoot on that
Apr 16 07:07:21 <deadweasel>	you think undershooot 30?
Apr 16 07:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder ok, but you think this based on what ?
Apr 16 07:07:49 <Bugpowder>	based on the stability of price at around 15 pre-bubble, and the growth in bitcoin infrastructure since then
Apr 16 07:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	see ? this is all "What others think"
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Apr 16 07:09:23 <Bugpowder>	I'm 'adding liquidity'
Apr 16 07:09:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00070824 = 1.2982 BTC [+]
Apr 16 07:09:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7618 @ 0.00071 = 5.4088 BTC [+]
Apr 16 07:09:46 <dub>	;;calc [ticker --vol]*[ticker --avg]
Apr 16 07:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	let's look at this past week (dear lord, it is ONE WEEK) from a macro perspective. buncha noobs poured 20-25 mn into the fiat/btc exchanges. miners took out a few mn of that, exchanges took out a few mn out of that too as fees.
Apr 16 07:09:47 <gribble>	37198356.7324
Apr 16 07:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	rest was split out back among the noobs.
Apr 16 07:10:00 <mircea_popescu>	i bet you the EV of the bubble is < the EV of S.dice.
Apr 16 07:10:02 <dub>	40mn volume today
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Apr 16 07:10:10 <Bugpowder>	for a n00b
Apr 16 07:10:14 <Bugpowder>	sure
Apr 16 07:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	dub that's not how it works tho.
Apr 16 07:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder well macro is macro.
Apr 16 07:10:33 <dub>	;;calc [ticker --vol]*[ticker --last]
Apr 16 07:10:34 <gribble>	34220690.9548
Apr 16 07:10:35 <Bugpowder>	and from a long term EV perspective, buying at 260 is still positive
Apr 16 07:10:43 <dub>	lie dat?
Apr 16 07:10:52 <mircea_popescu>	probably. if by long term one means more than a year or a few.
Apr 16 07:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	dub most of the trades count as wash trades in this perspective.
Apr 16 07:11:15 <Bugpowder>	IFF you don't consider future buy in
Apr 16 07:11:25 <Bugpowder>	potential future buy in costs
Apr 16 07:11:26 <mircea_popescu>	we're talking net inflows, the fact someone makes bets worth 10 btc on s.dice doesn't mean he has bet a total over 1 btc
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Apr 16 07:12:51 <Bugpowder>	If you are ignoring volatility and bubble formation and popping, (which was obvious both during and in hindsight) then you may be making an EV positive play, but it is far far far from the best EV + play.
Apr 16 07:12:51 <KRS1>	that all sounds very positive to me
Apr 16 07:13:04 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 it is, kinda.
Apr 16 07:13:23 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder in the end it all boils down to "it's an -ev game" and "everybody thinks they're special".
Apr 16 07:13:26 <KRS1>	wow i've learned a thing or two since i've been here
Apr 16 07:13:27 <mircea_popescu>	sure, they are. till they aren't.
Apr 16 07:13:59 <Bugpowder>	I agree actually
Apr 16 07:14:18 <Bugpowder>	everyone does think there special
Apr 16 07:14:25 <Bugpowder>	when they are winning
Apr 16 07:14:33 <mircea_popescu>	kinda how the human brain is made to work i think
Apr 16 07:14:58 <Bugpowder>	I maintain that luck has a huge role to play here
Apr 16 07:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	well absolutely.
Apr 16 07:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	hence the -ev / s.dice discussion
Apr 16 07:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	o wow, huge iran quake.
Apr 16 07:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if their concrete prefab building can take it.
Apr 16 07:16:02 <Bugpowder>	although my brain tells my that I must be more skilled than the market
Apr 16 07:16:07 <mircea_popescu>	7.8 15 minutes ago
Apr 16 07:16:22 <Bugpowder>	I wouldn't believe it if this was a mature financial market
Apr 16 07:17:34 <mircea_popescu>	it is a bounty of information and case study for actual economical discussion however.
Apr 16 07:17:49 <mircea_popescu>	for instance : the common wisdom is that capital controls help volatile macrofinancial situations.
Apr 16 07:18:02 <mircea_popescu>	well... mtgox is the most extreme case of capital controls i've ever seen implemented.
Apr 16 07:18:04 <mircea_popescu>	did not help.
Apr 16 07:18:17 <deadweasel>	we actually make very few decisions with our conscious mind.  our unconscious makes the decision and the consciousness creates a story around it make so it feels special about 'making' the decision.
Apr 16 07:18:31 <Bugpowder>	but the seductive argument is that the current state of bitcoin pricing is based on new market participants with little experience, and by using information asymmetries, like spending 12 hours a day on #bitcoin-assets, I can beat them.
Apr 16 07:18:35 <mircea_popescu>	leaving aside the quite typical cypriot failure mode of capital controls (ie, corruption), it still doesn't work.
Apr 16 07:18:45 <mircea_popescu>	deadweasel sorta like dreams work.
Apr 16 07:19:02 <deadweasel>	so if you know a subject well enough and long enough (10,000 hours i think), the instinct can be correct when you're conciously not sure.
Apr 16 07:19:16 <deadweasel>	yeah, but it's how we work ALL the time.
Apr 16 07:19:18 <Bugpowder>	thank you Malcom Gladwell :)
Apr 16 07:19:23 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i always suspected the "fight" or "Game" representation of markets is an artefact of the american mind and has nothing to do with market reality.
Apr 16 07:19:23 <deadweasel>	lol
Apr 16 07:19:30 <deadweasel>	Bugpowder: you got me.
Apr 16 07:19:33 <deadweasel>	:D
Apr 16 07:19:37 <deadweasel>	i'm Malcom Gladwell.
Apr 16 07:20:01 <ThickAsThieves>	also consider that the market price is manifesting itself from people doing what they think other people think people are doing
Apr 16 07:20:02 <Bugpowder>	I wonder how that guy that quit his job to play 10000 hours of golf is doing.
Apr 16 07:20:31 <deadweasel>	he's probably very relaxed.
Apr 16 07:20:33 <ThickAsThieves>	a map has been provided in the bubble chart
Apr 16 07:20:41 <ThickAsThieves>	we're just following/leading it
Apr 16 07:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like torture
Apr 16 07:20:57 <deadweasel>	work now, sign on in a bit.
Apr 16 07:21:30 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: I would argue though that the dynamics of bubble formation and popping have such similarities that there must be common stages of collective emotion that drive them
Apr 16 07:21:46 <ThickAsThieves>	at this point how do you separate that
Apr 16 07:21:54 <ThickAsThieves>	now we think all bubbles are alike
Apr 16 07:21:57 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder we have, of course, newton's famous quote.
Apr 16 07:21:59 <Bugpowder>	well anyone can draw a plot
Apr 16 07:22:10 <Bugpowder>	and label it with descriptors of emotion
Apr 16 07:22:14 <Bugpowder>	doesn't make it right
Apr 16 07:22:23 <ThickAsThieves>	right but knowing what a bubble looks like, allows us to construct it
Apr 16 07:22:30 <Bugpowder>	but there IS something there.
Apr 16 07:22:30 <mircea_popescu>	not really.
Apr 16 07:22:39 <mircea_popescu>	this is like saying knowing what democracy looks like we can now construct it.
Apr 16 07:22:42 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: quote?
Apr 16 07:22:45 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Apr 16 07:22:52 <mircea_popescu>	1. we don't really know what it looks like ; 2 we've never constructed it.
Apr 16 07:22:58 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont mean it an intentional way
Apr 16 07:23:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i mean our behavior facilitates it
Apr 16 07:23:11 <Bugpowder>	maybe democracy is harder to construct than a spec bubble
Apr 16 07:23:32 <Bugpowder>	takes higher order thinking, reasoning debate
Apr 16 07:23:49 <Bugpowder>	bubbles are just raw emotion driven asset valuation
Apr 16 07:23:51 <ThickAsThieves>	the speculators note that when i bubble pops, this and that happens, making it much more confident behaior
Apr 16 07:24:21 <Bugpowder>	ThickAsThieves: I certainly have used the last bitcoin bubble chart to inform my position for this one.
Apr 16 07:24:30 <Bugpowder>	it went better than expected
Apr 16 07:24:32 <ThickAsThieves>	thus you are also manifesting it
Apr 16 07:24:36 <Bugpowder>	right
Apr 16 07:24:45 <ThickAsThieves>	my point
Apr 16 07:25:03 <Bugpowder>	sure
Apr 16 07:25:07 <ThickAsThieves>	we all sat here waiting for 50
Apr 16 07:25:10 <ThickAsThieves>	obv it had to come
Apr 16 07:25:16 <Bugpowder>	just, when you personally manifest it, be early :)
Apr 16 07:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder "I can calculate the motions of the heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people."
Apr 16 07:25:22 <Bugpowder>	ah yes
Apr 16 07:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	and something being simple does not make it easy.
Apr 16 07:25:43 <Bugpowder>	need Dr. Selden for that
Apr 16 07:25:54 <mircea_popescu>	such as, airplanes were made in the 1900s. ants are still not made.
Apr 16 07:25:58 <Bugpowder>	Seldon
Apr 16 07:25:58 <ThickAsThieves>	i do think we'll strike an anomaly against the bubble template
Apr 16 07:26:29 <ThickAsThieves>	as bitcoin is still bitcoin, unique
Apr 16 07:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves to put it simply : the more close to common thought you are, the less likely it is to be correct. the further out you are the higher chances for you to be wrong. this is how thinking about bubbles works.
Apr 16 07:26:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+]
Apr 16 07:26:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.95 = 2.85 BTC [+]
Apr 16 07:26:49 <ezdiy>	also '' Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one. ,,
Apr 16 07:27:29 <ezdiy>	however this line thinking is actually useless to quantify bubless, because you can get the shape right
Apr 16 07:27:33 <ezdiy>	but never the timescale :(
Apr 16 07:28:40 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 16 07:28:41 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 46 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 16 07:28:56 <Bugpowder>	ezdiy: yup, that's why averaging out and averaging in are useful concepts
Apr 16 07:29:11 <Bugpowder>	Can't pick the top
Apr 16 07:29:42 <Bugpowder>	but you can tell you are probably in a bubble and peel off some gains on the way up
Apr 16 07:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	i think statistically the difference between the strategy of averaging in and the strategy of timing the top
Apr 16 07:30:30 <Bugpowder>	EV is the same
Apr 16 07:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	is the same as the difference between the strategy of martingale and the strategy of playing s.dice
Apr 16 07:30:33 <Bugpowder>	?
Apr 16 07:30:41 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, re: common thought, isn't it a different situation when the very game IS common thought (speculation)
Apr 16 07:30:41 <Bugpowder>	possibly
Apr 16 07:30:57 <mircea_popescu>	actually the proof of this would be a huge step forward in economic theory.
Apr 16 07:31:12 <Bugpowder>	I think it boils down to psychology
Apr 16 07:31:15 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i'm always wary when someone proposes something is different from something else.
Apr 16 07:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	we just don't have that many different things available.
Apr 16 07:31:44 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: martingale is for truly iniform random walk
Apr 16 07:32:00 <ThickAsThieves>	speculation is being at the front of the herd, rather than the back, where the wolves are
Apr 16 07:32:10 <ThickAsThieves>	(thinking out loud)
Apr 16 07:32:14 <mircea_popescu>	replace wolves with terrorists.
Apr 16 07:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	(ie, imagined threat). nao what ?
Apr 16 07:32:24 <Bugpowder>	If you give someone a 50/50 chance of making $1,000,000  or a 100% change of making $500,000,  unless they already have many million in the bank, they will invariably pick the sure bet.
Apr 16 07:32:38 <ThickAsThieves>	well its all game again
Apr 16 07:32:47 <Bugpowder>	similar thing in settlement negotiations
Apr 16 07:32:54 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder also someone will tend to represent a 49/51 chance as a 33/66 chance and a 1/99 chance as a 0/100 chance.
Apr 16 07:33:02 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 16 07:33:02 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 50 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 16 07:33:05 <mircea_popescu>	this as a restatement of taleb's ideas.
Apr 16 07:33:07 <Bugpowder>	sure
Apr 16 07:33:21 <Bugpowder>	well, taleb may be restating our ideas
Apr 16 07:33:27 <Bugpowder>	cause I didn't read that yet
Apr 16 07:33:30 <mircea_popescu>	he is, he is.
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Apr 16 07:33:56 <mircea_popescu>	well... the old black swan. 'it never happened therefore it's impossible" fallacy.
Apr 16 07:34:10 <Bugpowder>	in settlement negation, client management and selection is essential for optimizing firm revenue under contingency model
Apr 16 07:34:11 <mircea_popescu>	1/99 really is 0/100 after 72 tries or somesuch
Apr 16 07:34:29 <Bugpowder>	You want a client that already is rich
Apr 16 07:34:59 <ezdiy>	Bugpowder: until you're overrun by competition which caters to long trail :)
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Apr 16 07:35:09 <Bugpowder>	so when a defendant finally raises the settlement offer from 1MM to $10MM, the client doesn't piss himself and take the money
Apr 16 07:35:13 <BitHub>	come join us at #oracles&rogues where we perform miracle readings and premonitions
Apr 16 07:35:19 <BitHub>	mircea hi :)
Apr 16 07:35:23 <mircea_popescu>	ello
Apr 16 07:35:32 <ezdiy>	moar crystal balls, yay
Apr 16 07:35:44 <BitHub>	yes but this one is lulz
Apr 16 07:35:46 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder this is incidentally why i never raise offers. i make an offer. any further discussion is met with a deduction from the offer.
Apr 16 07:35:52 <BitHub>	especially the slang
Apr 16 07:36:37 <mircea_popescu>	works with women, too. ask her out. she fails to accept... well... he'll have to work at it next time.
Apr 16 07:36:49 <mircea_popescu>	haha i missed an s in there to great benefit.
Apr 16 07:36:55 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: i'm afraid this is not universally acceptable *g*
Apr 16 07:36:56 <Bugpowder>	you need a client that can say, fuck 100% at 10MM, let's try for the 30% shot at 100MM
Apr 16 07:37:00 <ezdiy>	try that with any self-respecting woman
Apr 16 07:37:04 <ezdiy>	or human, for that matter lol
Apr 16 07:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00071 = 7.597 BTC [+]
Apr 16 07:37:11 <BitHub>	is the site issues all good now mircea?
Apr 16 07:37:21 <BitHub>	well the ddos bs, same guy as gox?
Apr 16 07:37:38 <Bugpowder>	ezdiy: works will all women
Apr 16 07:37:43 <ezdiy>	yeah
Apr 16 07:37:45 <ezdiy>	daddy issues ftw
Apr 16 07:37:46 <ezdiy>	:)
Apr 16 07:37:47 <Bugpowder>	most men too
Apr 16 07:37:59 <ezdiy>	well, generally works with doormats of all walks of life
Apr 16 07:38:08 <Bugpowder>	not just doormats.
Apr 16 07:38:13 <KRS1>	heh doormats
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Apr 16 07:38:28 <BitHub>	i only trust asicminer
Apr 16 07:38:29 <Bugpowder>	There is a lot of truth in 'The Game'
Apr 16 07:38:40 <BitHub>	pua?
Apr 16 07:38:45 <Bugpowder>	yah
Apr 16 07:38:48 <BitHub>	heh
Apr 16 07:38:56 <BitHub>	i enjoy that
Apr 16 07:39:01 <Bugpowder>	of course, you must be savvy enough to adapt it to your own style
Apr 16 07:39:04 <BitHub>	niel strauss
Apr 16 07:39:08 <BitHub>	neil
Apr 16 07:39:12 <pgp>	morning
Apr 16 07:39:15 <Bugpowder>	and now deal with everyone know about The Game
Apr 16 07:39:17 <BitHub>	better off reading robert greene books tho
Apr 16 07:39:20 <ezdiy>	Bugpowder: in it's core, it's artificial price inflation
Apr 16 07:39:31 <ezdiy>	Bugpowder: youre making scarce something which is in reality not scarce at all
Apr 16 07:39:34 <ezdiy>	smart women realize that :)
Apr 16 07:39:37 <BitHub>	read his art of seduction
Apr 16 07:39:40 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy it only works with self respecting people.
Apr 16 07:39:41 <BitHub>	he's the real master
Apr 16 07:39:49 <Bugpowder>	which is tricky, because doing the meta-game game usually doesn't not go well.
Apr 16 07:40:07 <Bugpowder>	I read all this shit when it was just on that web forum
Apr 16 07:40:08 <mircea_popescu>	they're the only ones that can go yes or no on the first presentation and stick to it.
Apr 16 07:40:10 <Bugpowder>	way before the books
Apr 16 07:40:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070023 = 0.9103 BTC [-]
Apr 16 07:40:41 <Bugpowder>	I went from having NO women, to 2 hot girlfriends at the same time
Apr 16 07:40:56 <BitHub>	women are very easy
Apr 16 07:41:00 <Bugpowder>	although a part of my integrity died
Apr 16 07:41:10 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder why not tell them ?
Apr 16 07:41:15 <Bugpowder>	heheh
Apr 16 07:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	what ?
Apr 16 07:41:20 <Bugpowder>	early days
Apr 16 07:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	a
Apr 16 07:41:30 <Bugpowder>	I was not ready for that at 20 yr old
Apr 16 07:41:43 <BitHub>	have you developed your inner game yet?
Apr 16 07:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	girls don't mind eating a girl out once they figure out it's safe.
Apr 16 07:41:56 <BitHub>	don't listen to mircea when it comes to girls
Apr 16 07:42:05 <mircea_popescu>	yeah, i agree.
Apr 16 07:42:07 <Bugpowder>	I am retired from the game
Apr 16 07:42:08 <BitHub>	probably hasn't been with one for a while
Apr 16 07:42:17 <BitHub>	just be yourself
Apr 16 07:42:20 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
Apr 16 07:42:20 <BitHub>	its simple
Apr 16 07:42:25 <ezdiy>	BitHub: why not? this sort of talk leads to guys one-upping each other
Apr 16 07:42:26 <ezdiy>	gradually
Apr 16 07:42:29 <ezdiy>	its hilarious
Apr 16 07:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy no u.
Apr 16 07:42:36 <BitHub>	maybe im neggin him ;)
Apr 16 07:42:39 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 16 07:42:51 <mircea_popescu>	BitHub this chan has a strict no fag policy.
Apr 16 07:42:52 <BitHub>	or that alpha male technique thingy
Apr 16 07:42:55 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: awww. are we negging? :)
Apr 16 07:42:59 <ezdiy>	 /insert relevant xkcd/
Apr 16 07:43:02 <BitHub>	heh better ban yourself then
Apr 16 07:43:14 <mircea_popescu>	i don't smoke.
Apr 16 07:43:32 <BitHub>	just run off with peoples bits yeah?
Apr 16 07:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 16 07:43:55 <BitHub>	i kid, i love you
Apr 16 07:44:15 <Bugpowder>	beta male move there BitHub
Apr 16 07:44:21 <Bugpowder>	supplication
Apr 16 07:44:24 <BitHub>	that's how easy it is
Apr 16 07:44:27 <mircea_popescu>	can't he love me ?
Apr 16 07:44:27 <BitHub>	just showing example
Apr 16 07:44:43 <BitHub>	but at the end of the day right its a numbers game
Apr 16 07:44:54 <BitHub>	either you like daddy, or piss off
Apr 16 07:44:56 <Scrat>	;;ticker --last
Apr 16 07:44:57 <gribble>	58.41000
Apr 16 07:45:02 <BitHub>	new girls turning 18 every day
Apr 16 07:45:44 <ezdiy>	depends on what youre looking for
Apr 16 07:45:50 <BitHub>	listen
Apr 16 07:46:00 <ezdiy>	till 25, people are looking just for a cheap fuck
Apr 16 07:46:02 <BitHub>	you know why people get gf's and wives etc
Apr 16 07:46:10 <mircea_popescu>	you do ?
Apr 16 07:46:12 <BitHub>	because they're poor and scared to die alone
Apr 16 07:46:19 <ezdiy>	yep
Apr 16 07:46:24 <Bugpowder>	hmmm
Apr 16 07:46:29 <Bugpowder>	can't agree with that
Apr 16 07:46:35 <BitHub>	its true
Apr 16 07:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	everybody dies alone.
Apr 16 07:46:39 <ezdiy>	BitHub: whats worse, there are rich people who die alone
Apr 16 07:46:40 <BitHub>	work on your bank account
Apr 16 07:46:41 <ezdiy>	in the true sense
Apr 16 07:46:50 <Bugpowder>	1) positive influence on life, 2) understanding, 3) having kids
Apr 16 07:46:50 <BitHub>	give it away
Apr 16 07:47:05 <Scrat>	disregard bitches, acquire satoshi
Apr 16 07:47:08 <Scrat>	is what i say
Apr 16 07:47:10 <ezdiy>	Scrat: :))))
Apr 16 07:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	heh. i guess the rebellious youth of these days no longer reads sartre & co huh.
Apr 16 07:47:19 <Bugpowder>	those would be my top 3 reasons for a wife, in some order.
Apr 16 07:47:20 <BitHub>	anyway my point is, be a man and work on making money
Apr 16 07:47:27 <BitHub>	teh girls will cum
Apr 16 07:47:55 <Bugpowder>	Work on something
Apr 16 07:47:58 <Bugpowder>	doesn't need to be money
Apr 16 07:48:01 <Scrat>	b-b-but im still a poor beta fag
Apr 16 07:48:06 <Scrat>	t-t-thanks bitcoin-assets
Apr 16 07:48:08 <mircea_popescu>	srsly. learn how to handle a whip and rope.
Apr 16 07:48:11 <Bugpowder>	but you gotta be good at something
Apr 16 07:48:16 <BitHub>	lul mircea
Apr 16 07:48:16 <Bugpowder>	science don't pay
Apr 16 07:48:17 <ezdiy>	BitHub: not much money needed actually
Apr 16 07:48:17 <BitHub>	why
Apr 16 07:48:26 <BitHub>	ezdiy at last 1 million
Apr 16 07:48:28 <BitHub>	least
Apr 16 07:48:30 <ezdiy>	BitHub: it might come as a surprise, but shallow women are mostly interested int *things*
Apr 16 07:48:34 <mircea_popescu>	because more girls need a good whipping than need money at all.
Apr 16 07:48:34 <BitHub>	then you can relax
Apr 16 07:48:39 <ezdiy>	ie visible signs of social status
Apr 16 07:48:46 <ezdiy>	ie piss poor, but a good car
Apr 16 07:48:46 <ezdiy>	etc
Apr 16 07:49:09 <BitHub>	anyway lil off topic, i actually really enjoy all the different bitcoin assets
Apr 16 07:49:24 <BitHub>	and analysing them
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Apr 16 07:49:48 <BitHub>	any good ipo's coming up? i'm only feeling asicminer at the moment
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Apr 16 07:52:36 <Bugpowder>	<crickets>
Apr 16 07:52:50 <Bugpowder>	ZIGZAP 2.0
Apr 16 07:52:50 <thestringpuller>	well smickles has goxxed me
Apr 16 07:53:37 <Scrat>	BitHub: mine
Apr 16 07:53:37 <Bugpowder>	coinbullshitter.com
Apr 16 07:53:40 <Scrat>	it will rox your sox off
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Apr 16 07:53:57 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i thought he was getting out of brokering ?
Apr 16 07:54:09 <BitHub>	scrat?
Apr 16 07:54:16 <Bugpowder>	he probably should if he locks you up for weeks
Apr 16 07:54:19 <BitHub>	lul bug
Apr 16 07:54:37 <BitHub>	Scrat, hook me up
Apr 16 07:54:42 <BitHub>	scam me and i'll you tho
Apr 16 07:54:46 <ThickAsThieves>	BitHub, do you realize that you're repeatedly looking for confirmation that ASICminer shares are a good buy?
Apr 16 07:54:59 <BitHub>	i already have heaps
Apr 16 07:55:01 <ThickAsThieves>	you know what that means right?
Apr 16 07:55:09 <ezdiy>	self-assuring circle jerks are a good thing
Apr 16 07:55:28 <BitHub>	well name another asset then
Apr 16 07:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	notrly.
Apr 16 07:55:40 <Scrat>	BitHub: well, not yet released
Apr 16 07:55:42 <Bugpowder>	24hr volume, 545,000BTC
Apr 16 07:55:42 <BitHub>	should i put all my btc into ziggap?
Apr 16 07:55:49 <Bugpowder>	this is what happens with no lag
Apr 16 07:55:59 <Bugpowder>	BitHub: It's a long tail play
Apr 16 07:56:05 <BitHub>	or maybe should i put all my btc into BAKEDwell
Apr 16 07:56:05 <ThickAsThieves>	you should be looking for reliable stocks that are tied to USD
Apr 16 07:56:21 <BitHub>	i praise asicminer because its a legit asset
Apr 16 07:56:22 <Scrat>	;;ticker --last
Apr 16 07:56:23 <gribble>	56.91000
Apr 16 07:56:29 <Bugpowder>	ZIGZAP, BAKEWELL distressed assets and litecoin.
Apr 16 07:56:29 <ThickAsThieves>	since USD is going up
Apr 16 07:56:54 <BitHub>	i want to get your guys opinions on good and trusthworth bitcoin companies that are floating assets
Apr 16 07:56:58 <BitHub>	i mean shares
Apr 16 07:56:59 <ThickAsThieves>	asicminer may be the most stable, but you are essentially locking yourself in to BTC/USD value
Apr 16 07:57:06 <ThickAsThieves>	which you may have noticed is plummeting
Apr 16 07:57:16 <BitHub>	yes
Apr 16 07:58:10 <BitHub>	so during these times of suicides, isn't it better to be collecting divs? and the demand for stable asset is there, so alot of people pumping, allowing you to golden parachute out later when btc price picks up again?
Apr 16 07:58:39 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 16 07:58:44 <ThickAsThieves>	not sure where to start
Apr 16 07:59:09 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE could be good
Apr 16 07:59:10 <ThickAsThieves>	you really think divs will outweigh your loss in BTC/USD value?
Apr 16 07:59:21 <Bugpowder>	but you really need that betting volume to pickup
Apr 16 07:59:25 <Bugpowder>	it hasn't yet
Apr 16 07:59:31 <ThickAsThieves>	Bug, check again
Apr 16 07:59:32 <mircea_popescu>	@DalaiLama It’s unrealistic to think that the future of humanity can be achieved only on the basis of prayer, what we need is to take action.
Apr 16 07:59:40 <mircea_popescu>	i guess another religion confronts its intellectual bankruptcy.
Apr 16 07:59:53 <ThickAsThieves>	BTC In doubled 2 days ago, quadrupled last night
Apr 16 07:59:54 <Bugpowder>	kik
Apr 16 08:00:03 <Bugpowder>	deepceleron whale watch
Apr 16 08:00:53 <pgp>	I agreed SDICE is the a defensive USD/BTC play
Apr 16 08:01:01 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38711.msg1853130#msg1853130
Apr 16 08:01:26 <Bugpowder>	what da fuck is this plot doing?  http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=12N3m1zR6dkovEZ8fP9LkZkbgtKVX6iGwd
Apr 16 08:01:42 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 16 08:01:42 <Bugpowder>	I think calling that guy a 'whale' is being a little generous.
Apr 16 08:02:01 <pizzaman1337>	that chart is awesome
Apr 16 08:02:05 <ThickAsThieves>	that is a time travel plot
Apr 16 08:02:23 <ThickAsThieves>	revisionist charting?
Apr 16 08:02:32 <Scrat>	lol
Apr 16 08:02:46 <Bugpowder>	I'd restrict whales to someone with proven 10k btc in a set of addresses and is hammering s.dice for bets of >100BTC for long stretches.
Apr 16 08:02:53 <pgp>	impossible chart?
Apr 16 08:03:08 <ThickAsThieves>	skyline of Tokyo 3030?
Apr 16 08:03:34 <Scrat>	http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/North_Nitro/HURRDURR.png
Apr 16 08:03:56 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
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Apr 16 08:04:28 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe double spend attempts causing that chart?
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Apr 16 08:08:55 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 550000*.003*2
Apr 16 08:08:56 <gribble>	3300
Apr 16 08:09:11 <Bugpowder>	;;calc 3300*60
Apr 16 08:09:12 <gribble>	198000
Apr 16 08:09:30 <Bugpowder>	mtgox only making $200,000 today
Apr 16 08:09:39 <kakobrekla>	bummer
Apr 16 08:10:35 <pgp>	interesting to note that at bitfinex, they have changed margin rules - they use to offer 5x - I guess that didn't work out so good for them...  they still have 400k lent out in margin, but at an average annual rate of ONLY 84% - used to be consistently over 300%...  Sentiment indicator?
Apr 16 08:10:49 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Apr 16 08:11:00 <kakobrekla>	interesting indeed
Apr 16 08:11:56 <pgp>	i'll be they go smoked trying to liquidate some margin accounts....
Apr 16 08:12:14 <mircea_popescu>	i am boggled anyone'd take that thing seriously.
Apr 16 08:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	they are using the bitcoinica codebase they've stolen ffs.
Apr 16 08:12:35 <mircea_popescu>	what more ? what more could one do to be untrustworthy ?
Apr 16 08:15:04 <Namworld>	Well as long as someone can fix the security issues of the script (unless funds were actually stolen by the admin)... although it casts some serious doubts about the safety of such a thing.
Apr 16 08:15:13 <Namworld>	meh
Apr 16 08:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Apr 16 08:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	currently bitcoin contains this throng of idiots who literally have no standard.
Apr 16 08:15:53 <mircea_popescu>	if you go by them there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING one can do to fuck up.
Apr 16 08:16:10 <mircea_popescu>	this will ensure bitcoin's failure on the long term if allowed to continue.
Apr 16 08:16:23 <mircea_popescu>	there must be standards, and if those standards are breached the person must be dead.
Apr 16 08:16:43 <pizzaman1337>	dead?
Apr 16 08:16:46 <mircea_popescu>	dead.
Apr 16 08:17:01 <Scrat>	pk'd
Apr 16 08:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	there's currently absolutely nothing jared kenna can do to become a bitcoin business person again.
Apr 16 08:17:21 <mircea_popescu>	nothing at all.
Apr 16 08:17:26 <mircea_popescu>	repaying all his debts ? nope, doesn't do it.
Apr 16 08:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	build a temple to satoshi ? mnope, doesn't do it.
Apr 16 08:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	you scam, you're dead.
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Apr 16 08:18:30 <Namworld>	I didn't say it was good, I said it COULD be possible to reuse some failed codebase if someone fixed it. Not that I think this is likely to have occured.
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Apr 16 08:18:52 <mircea_popescu>	but! they didn;t obtain permission!
Apr 16 08:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	the bitcoinica victims, one of their avenues to recover something of their lost money
Apr 16 08:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	would have been codebase licensing. for fixing etc.
Apr 16 08:19:50 <Namworld>	yeah but that's not happening regardless, does it?
Apr 16 08:20:25 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't seem likely. i have no idea who'd fix ror code.
Apr 16 08:20:28 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38711.msg1853238#msg1853238
Apr 16 08:20:29 <kakobrekla>	idiots
Apr 16 08:20:32 <kakobrekla>	srsly
Apr 16 08:20:39 <kakobrekla>	that is why bitcoin is fucked
Apr 16 08:20:40 <Namworld>	Maybe I should read more about these cases, but I can't care enough to go and do it.
Apr 16 08:20:48 <kakobrekla>	"young enterpreneurs and still learning their business"
Apr 16 08:20:49 <kakobrekla>	fuck you.
Apr 16 08:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla how much you got locked there ?
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Apr 16 08:20:59 <kakobrekla>	30k
Apr 16 08:21:04 <kakobrekla>	not much but eh
Apr 16 08:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	"young entrepreneurs learning the business" heh.
Apr 16 08:21:33 <mircea_popescu>	that's exactly what i[m talking about.
Apr 16 08:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	"he's a young dentist learning dentistry".
Apr 16 08:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	on your teeth motherfucker. this is okay. because most retards are tauight how to write and nothing else, then given internet access.
Apr 16 08:22:11 <Bugpowder>	New Major Lazer out today.  noice
Apr 16 08:24:40 <Namworld>	Honestly, if someone is going to make an exchange or anything without much experience, make it clear BTC withdrawals will take a long time to process. Because there won't be a hotwallet.
Apr 16 08:25:23 <kakobrekla>	i am talking fiat money here
Apr 16 08:25:40 <kakobrekla>	the tx is 'pending confirmation' for days now
Apr 16 08:25:47 <kakobrekla>	fuck you and give me my money
Apr 16 08:26:02 <Namworld>	eh... that's no good either
Apr 16 08:26:32 <pgp>	holding up fiat is just plain bad business...
Apr 16 08:26:36 <kakobrekla>	Namworld the problem is
Apr 16 08:26:41 <kakobrekla>	noone who is sane
Apr 16 08:26:45 <kakobrekla>	would make fiat exchange
Apr 16 08:26:47 <kakobrekla>	in the FIRST PLAE
Apr 16 08:26:50 <kakobrekla>	PLACE
Apr 16 08:26:52 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 16 08:27:17 <pgp>	BTC, expecially large amounts, i understand.  Do you prefer convenience or security?
Apr 16 08:27:26 <pgp>	bounce!
Apr 16 08:28:13 <pgp>	got a little longer overnight - scale seller over 65 methinks
Apr 16 08:30:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83501 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:30:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.835 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:31:45 <pgp>	gox 24h volume at 547k...  that's HUGE...
Apr 16 08:32:51 <unbalanced>	;;seen jurov
Apr 16 08:32:52 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours, 2 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <jurov> no wonder everyone uses ;;next
Apr 16 08:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.24999998 BTC [+]
Apr 16 08:35:47 <pgp>	future fiat exchange will need blessing of govt and prolly a banking license to be truly succesful
Apr 16 08:36:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1118 @ 0.00071387 = 0.7981 BTC [+]
Apr 16 08:36:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6682 @ 0.00071 = 4.7442 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:36:30 <pgp>	friendly jurisdictions like panama, malta, gibralter, costa rica, even
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Apr 16 08:40:24 <error4733>	or just use ripple instead !
Apr 16 08:40:37 <Bugpowder>	pgp No lag = more trades
Apr 16 08:40:45 <BitHub>	bitcoinmilf
Apr 16 08:41:16 <BitHub>	scrat ?
Apr 16 08:41:26 <BitHub>	let me know about teh asset
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Apr 16 08:44:11 <Namworld>	547k... impressive
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Apr 16 08:44:59 <deadweasel_work>	are we going to bounce around this week and still return to 30$?
Apr 16 08:45:19 <deadweasel_work>	or is 50 the bottom?
Apr 16 08:46:22 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 16 08:46:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.00100, Best ask: 59.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.91900, Last trade: 59.89000, 24 hour volume: 547666.44717794, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.89155
Apr 16 08:47:50 <error4733>	;;next
Apr 16 08:47:50 <gribble>	57-58 support | resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 7 minutes, and 48 seconds ago
Apr 16 08:48:31 <Namworld>	I'd be surprised 50 is the bottom
Apr 16 08:49:49 <Namworld>	Also I don't understand how this support/resistance is calculated...
Apr 16 08:50:29 <Namworld>	This data looks dubious
Apr 16 08:52:35 <pgp>	;;bids 30
Apr 16 08:52:35 <gribble>	There are currently 130246.66 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 5550385.33549 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.8607 seconds
Apr 16 08:52:46 <pgp>	;;bids 90
Apr 16 08:52:46 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.9924 seconds
Apr 16 08:52:58 <pgp>	;;asks 90
Apr 16 08:52:58 <gribble>	There are currently 51116.173 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 3911649.1496 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.4811 seconds
Apr 16 08:53:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 16 08:53:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.29001, Best ask: 59.66249, Bid-ask spread: 0.37248, Last trade: 59.66249, 24 hour volume: 547741.83685989, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.88007
Apr 16 08:53:55 <ThickAsThieves>	50 isnt bottom
Apr 16 08:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.47000001 = 1.41 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:55:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:55:18 <pgp>	;;next
Apr 16 08:55:18 <gribble>	57-58 support | resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 15 minutes, and 16 seconds ago
Apr 16 08:55:43 <ThickAsThieves>	14 hours ago: There are currently 35974.547 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD
Apr 16 08:55:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 100
Apr 16 08:55:50 <gribble>	There are currently 68671.866 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 5613040.35424 USD in total. | Data vintage: 63.7432 seconds
Apr 16 08:56:04 <Bugpowder>	deadweasel: I suspect we could bounce as high as 90 in the next few days, but also expect to see 30 or below sometime in the next 3
Apr 16 08:56:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.09001 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:56:07 <Namworld>	We've accumulated a nice 68k BTC asks under 100 USD/BTC. It keeps raising, bids keeps lowering. Looks like mostly people cashing out right now.
Apr 16 08:56:09 <Bugpowder>	3 months
Apr 16 08:56:15 <error4733>	;;bids 49.9
Apr 16 08:56:15 <gribble>	There are currently 33142.458 bitcoins demanded at or over 49.9 USD, worth 1740332.85768 USD in total. | Data vintage: 89.1672 seconds
Apr 16 08:56:41 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 20000
Apr 16 08:56:42 <gribble>	A market order to sell 20000 bitcoins right now would net 1080445.3355 USD and would take the last price down to 51.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 54.0223 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 115.8273 seconds
Apr 16 08:56:49 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 30000
Apr 16 08:56:51 <gribble>	A market order to sell 30000 bitcoins right now would net 1585346.9489 USD and would take the last price down to 50.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 52.8449 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds
Apr 16 08:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.445 = 0.89 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:57:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.441 = 0.882 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:57:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.44 = 1.76 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:57:14 <Bugpowder>	similar level of bids were there when I went to bed
Apr 16 08:57:14 <deadweasel_work>	Bugpowder: that follows previous bubble behavior, no?
Apr 16 08:57:16 <ThickAsThieves>	so 50 would only be bottom if no one dodges falling price
Apr 16 08:57:49 <Bugpowder>	got cleaned out then bounced to 66 in the space of 3 hours
Apr 16 08:57:49 <Namworld>	yeah
Apr 16 08:58:13 <Bugpowder>	deadweasel_work: yes.  That's really the only thing I'm going on here.
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Apr 16 08:58:17 <error4733>	when you try to compare with 2011 bubble, dont forget MTgox hack ! less than a week after crash
Apr 16 08:58:25 <Bugpowder>	true
Apr 16 08:58:37 <Bugpowder>	well… get ready for a hack then!
Apr 16 08:58:38 <Bugpowder>	:)
Apr 16 08:58:41 <Namworld>	well we've had lots of bounce. People each time hoped for a quick rise back so they could sell their BTC they bought at a premium.
Apr 16 08:58:42 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
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Apr 16 08:58:53 <Namworld>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg10zigHourlyztgSza1gEMAzm1g10za2gEMAzm2g50zv
Apr 16 08:58:59 <Namworld>	Still looks strongly bearish
Apr 16 08:59:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00195 BTC [-]
Apr 16 08:59:59 <ThickAsThieves>	yep ADX also falls whenever buying increases
Apr 16 09:00:09 <pgp>	i agree, though I think we could break out here to upper 60's
Apr 16 09:00:32 <pgp>	then come back down
Apr 16 09:00:34 <Bugpowder>	Trend is yo friend
Apr 16 09:00:47 <Bugpowder>	when it was going up, buy the dips, buy calls
Apr 16 09:01:27 <Bugpowder>	when its going down, wait it out, or take short term long positions on sharp selloffs, selling the bounce, if you must trade
Apr 16 09:01:54 <Namworld>	yeah
Apr 16 09:02:57 <ThickAsThieves>	we'll plateau or slight slope until buying/volume subsides, then dumping will resume
Apr 16 09:03:41 <Bugpowder>	The beatings will continue until morale improves
Apr 16 09:03:54 <Scrat>	;;eightball will we stabilize
Apr 16 09:03:55 <gribble>	What are you asking me for?
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Apr 16 09:04:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball Will we see 40 in less than 24 hours?
Apr 16 09:04:16 <gribble>	NO.
Apr 16 09:04:23 <ThickAsThieves>	:(
Apr 16 09:04:59 <Namworld>	;;eightball Will we see 40 USD/BTC in less than 24 hours?
Apr 16 09:05:00 <gribble>	It is so.
Apr 16 09:05:10 <ThickAsThieves>	oh it thought i meant something else
Apr 16 09:05:11 <Scrat>	if I were filthy rich I'd make a bot that trades based on gribble's eightball, just for kicks
Apr 16 09:05:14 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe age
Apr 16 09:05:15 <Namworld>	He must have confused 40 for something else
Apr 16 09:05:16 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 16 09:05:31 <ThickAsThieves>	my birthday is soon, not 40 just yet
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Apr 16 09:06:05 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 16 09:06:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.89701, Best ask: 59.91000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01299, Last trade: 59.91000, 24 hour volume: 549138.33281102, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.83756
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Apr 16 09:06:25 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,24hprc
Apr 16 09:06:26 <gribble>	69.26
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Apr 16 09:06:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;gribble If you gave 3 wishes, could I wish for more wishes?
Apr 16 09:06:45 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Apr 16 09:06:55 <ThickAsThieves>	fine
Apr 16 09:07:12 <ThickAsThieves>	;;eightball  If you gave 3 wishes, could I wish for more wishes?
Apr 16 09:07:12 <gribble>	It is so.
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Apr 16 09:09:19 <error4733>	;;eightball will satoshi come back ?
Apr 16 09:09:19 <gribble>	Naturally.
Apr 16 09:09:51 <error4733>	;;eightball will satoshi say it was a big joke ?
Apr 16 09:09:52 <gribble>	The outlook is good.
Apr 16 09:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.05000003 BTC [-]
Apr 16 09:11:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00070758 = 6.0498 BTC [-]
Apr 16 09:11:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.0007028 = 4.8493 BTC [-]
Apr 16 09:11:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.0006965 = 0.9751 BTC [-]
Apr 16 09:11:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00069512 = 1.8421 BTC [-]
Apr 16 09:11:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.09 = 0.45 BTC [-]
Apr 16 09:12:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.07201 BTC [-]
Apr 16 09:13:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-]
Apr 16 09:13:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 35 @ 0.06 = 2.1 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 09:16:45 <kmoneylongshanks>	anyone heard anything from the people behind crypto trade?
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Apr 16 09:18:05 <ThickAsThieves>	just that they like moving their open date
Apr 16 09:18:33 <Bugpowder>	coinlab?
Apr 16 09:18:39 <Bugpowder>	:)
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Apr 16 09:21:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5139 @ 0.00071387 = 3.6686 BTC [+]
Apr 16 09:23:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00421 = 0.0211 BTC [+]
Apr 16 09:26:30 <pgp>	upside breakout?
Apr 16 09:27:12 <Bugpowder>	falling asleep over here TBH
Apr 16 09:27:33 <Bugpowder>	lets see it hit 62
Apr 16 09:28:40 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 16 09:28:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.00102, Best ask: 61.69899, Bid-ask spread: 0.69797, Last trade: 61.00102, 24 hour volume: 552465.69282423, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.74805
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Apr 16 09:32:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00377 = 0.0754 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 09:38:34 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 16 09:38:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.49999, Best ask: 61.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 61.49999, 24 hour volume: 553160.98601480, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.72244
Apr 16 09:38:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 60 @ 0.0036 = 0.216 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 09:41:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.google.com/search?q=scott+locklin&tbs=qdr:d lol
Apr 16 09:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if he learns by it.
Apr 16 09:41:14 <pgp>	all this 0.01 shit on the gox book is ridiculous...
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Apr 16 09:44:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5087 @ 0.00071387 = 3.6315 BTC [+]
Apr 16 09:45:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4312 @ 0.00071404 = 3.0789 BTC [+]
Apr 16 09:45:03 <ThickAsThieves>	it speaks volumes
Apr 16 09:45:06 <ThickAsThieves>	badoom
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Apr 16 09:46:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.88 = 4.4 BTC [+]
Apr 16 09:46:21 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130982.msg1850804#msg1850804   <this explain the nethash going down lately
Apr 16 09:46:32 <ThickAsThieves>	avalon is unplugging units and shipping
Apr 16 09:46:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]
Apr 16 09:47:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]
Apr 16 09:47:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.89999 = 2.7 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 09:49:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.851 BTC [-]
Apr 16 09:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves interesting.
Apr 16 09:52:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 16 09:52:16 <gribble>	65688.1558736
Apr 16 09:54:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 09:59:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1060 @ 0.01 = 10.6 BTC [+]
Apr 16 10:00:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [+]
Apr 16 10:02:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.855 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:02:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 10:03:36 <Bugpowder>	Rally looks great on the M1
Apr 16 10:03:41 <Bugpowder>	then I switch to M15
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Apr 16 10:05:29 <pgp>	68 i sprolly top
Apr 16 10:06:42 <pgp>	if it clearly 60's, there's a pretty good shot at upper 70's , i think
Apr 16 10:07:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:07:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8222 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:07:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.81003 = 4.0502 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:07:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.81002 = 4.0501 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 10:07:54 <Namworld>	lol, who trades on M1?
Apr 16 10:08:00 <Namworld>	I know I don't...
Apr 16 10:08:11 <Bugpowder>	me
Apr 16 10:08:17 <Bugpowder>	last night
Apr 16 10:08:24 <pgp>	and me
Apr 16 10:08:52 <kakobrekla>	scalpers
Apr 16 10:08:56 <pgp>	there are cycles within cycles...
Apr 16 10:09:12 <pgp>	c'mon
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Apr 16 10:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 10:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 10:12:05 <pgp>	wow
Apr 16 10:12:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.81 = 8.1 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:12:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.8 = 12 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:12:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 10:15:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.792 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:16:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.79101 = 9.4921 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 10:18:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.79101 = 2.373 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:18:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.791 = 23.73 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:18:27 <Namworld>	these PUTs are pricey
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Apr 16 10:18:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.790001 = 5.53 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:18:51 <Namworld>	anyone selling better priced PUTs?
Apr 16 10:19:27 <pgp>	they are impossibly priced - all put > 1 by bot
Apr 16 10:19:43 <Namworld>	yeah
Apr 16 10:19:58 <Namworld>	although at half the strike value, they're worth 1 BTC already...
Apr 16 10:20:03 <Namworld>	but still
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Apr 16 10:21:04 <Namworld>	best puts are in the money at 32 USD/BTC
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Apr 16 10:23:15 <mircea_popescu>	pgp 1 is a max for calls, it has no particular relaiton to puts.
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Apr 16 10:29:59 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 16 10:30:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 60.97661, Best ask: 61.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.52339, Last trade: 61.84948, 24 hour volume: 562839.81439493, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 97.69000, 24 hour vwap: 68.46823
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Apr 16 10:39:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P050T] 5 @ 1.080704 = 5.4035 BTC [+]
Apr 16 10:39:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069802 = 3.4901 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 10:40:10 <pgp>	$avg
Apr 16 10:40:11 <mpexbot>	pgp: 68.88
Apr 16 10:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C062N] 3 @ 0.80630438 = 2.4189 BTC [+]
Apr 16 10:46:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00069512 = 3.8927 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:46:59 <jcpham>	http://forum.kink.com/thread/33662
Apr 16 10:47:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8007 @ 0.00069311 = 5.5497 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 10:48:04 <ThickAsThieves>	Bitcoin is a deadly pyramid scheme!
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Apr 16 10:49:05 <pgp>	mp: i understand that puts can be > 1, but if you look at it from a USD perspective all the put are guranteed losers, right?
Apr 16 10:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	how so ?
Apr 16 10:50:51 <pgp>	am i right in assuming that O.USD.P050T is "best" put right now?
Apr 16 10:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	well... what's a best put ?
Apr 16 10:51:33 <ThickAsThieves>	the one with the lowest break even i suppose would be the "safest"
Apr 16 10:51:37 <pgp>	lowest implied vol?  just want to walk through an example
Apr 16 10:52:01 <ThickAsThieves>	which would be somewhere around P074
Apr 16 10:52:02 <mircea_popescu>	ok, let's try the example then. [MPEX] [O.USD.P050T] 5 @ 1.080704 = 5.4035 BTC [+]
Apr 16 10:52:14 <mircea_popescu>	if you atm have 5.4035 btc, their value is whatever, 300 bucks.
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Apr 16 10:52:31 <pgp>	yes...
Apr 16 10:52:33 <ThickAsThieves>	sry ignore me
Apr 16 10:52:36 <ThickAsThieves>	was looking atcalls
Apr 16 10:52:37 <mircea_popescu>	if you keep it as btc and btc goes to $6, you have 30 bucks. so from a fiat perspective lost 90% of your fortune.
Apr 16 10:53:08 <mircea_popescu>	if you trade it for puts and btc goes to $6, you now have 44/6 * 5 = 35 btc or so.
Apr 16 10:53:29 <mircea_popescu>	even if you count those at $6 each, it's hardly a loser compared to 30 bucks.
Apr 16 10:54:39 <ThickAsThieves>	best put atm is 89
Apr 16 10:54:41 <pgp>	35 BTC * 6 = $210
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Apr 16 10:54:53 <pgp>	I started with $300
Apr 16 10:55:09 <pgp>	no way to win in fiat terms
Apr 16 10:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	yes well, you didn't. you started with 5 btc.
Apr 16 10:55:45 <mircea_popescu>	the easy way to get 300 is to sell out.
Apr 16 10:55:52 <mircea_popescu>	basically the bot is of the opinion BTC is fucked,
Apr 16 10:56:02 <mircea_popescu>	on the strength of what it saw in the charts.
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Apr 16 10:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	this is something we've been discussing at length yest i thought ?
Apr 16 10:56:16 <pgp>	look at the trade in the sense that I start in fiat and end in fiat - guaranteed loser
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Apr 16 10:56:42 <ThickAsThieves>	no puts or calls are really worth it atm
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Apr 16 10:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	as far as the bot is concerned, bitcoin is a dead horse it would seem.
Apr 16 10:57:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00063 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
Apr 16 10:57:04 <mircea_popescu>	that was the entire point of yest's convo
Apr 16 10:57:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 8 @ 0.00062 = 0.005 BTC [-]
Apr 16 10:57:22 <ThickAsThieves>	bit is scurred
Apr 16 10:57:24 <pgp>	if we used your prices, converted to USD and computed like convention option in USD, all puts are guaranteed losers...
Apr 16 10:57:27 <ThickAsThieves>	bot*
Apr 16 10:57:38 <ThickAsThieves>	so sell btc instead
Apr 16 10:57:59 <ThickAsThieves>	bot does not want out business
Apr 16 10:58:04 <ThickAsThieves>	our*
Apr 16 10:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	more like "nothing that goes from 20 to 260 and then down to 60 has a future"
Apr 16 10:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	which, on the strength of that alone, i find difficult to contest
Apr 16 10:59:15 <ThickAsThieves>	meh
Apr 16 10:59:17 <mircea_popescu>	and the bot only sees graphs, charts and so forth.
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Apr 16 10:59:28 <ThickAsThieves>	a little obtuse imo
Apr 16 10:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't make  judgements as of technology etc.
Apr 16 10:59:38 <mircea_popescu>	well ofcourse. it's a bot after all.
Apr 16 10:59:49 <ThickAsThieves>	it could still be making money
Apr 16 11:00:05 <ThickAsThieves>	if it was smarter
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Apr 16 11:00:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.0042 = 0.063 BTC [+]
Apr 16 11:01:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00421 = 0.0589 BTC [+]
Apr 16 11:01:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 157 @ 0.004285 = 0.6727 BTC [+]
Apr 16 11:02:19 <ThickAsThieves>	bot is an instrument in the volatility game, yet goes to bed when things get volatile
Apr 16 11:02:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 52 @ 0.004287 = 0.2229 BTC [+]
Apr 16 11:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	yes. just like the guy on first base is an instrument in the game of baseball
Apr 16 11:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	yet he leaves the field once somebody takes out a machete.
Apr 16 11:03:38 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 16 11:03:46 <jborkl>	micrea_popescu can you clear a deposit
Apr 16 11:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	one of the key factors eveeryone has to consider when promoting idiocy,
Apr 16 11:04:04 <ThickAsThieves>	is machetes
Apr 16 11:04:14 <mircea_popescu>	whether it's pirate idiocy like gigavps did, or price idiocy like keiser & co did, or simple technical idiocy like pushing tradehill or coinbase etc  :
Apr 16 11:04:21 <mircea_popescu>	as stupidity is promoted, sense simply leaves.
Apr 16 11:05:23 <ThickAsThieves>	like you said, we already discussed this, so I shouldnt beat the dead horse, but in the end the bot is flawed
Apr 16 11:06:25 <ThickAsThieves>	not a horrible crime
Apr 16 11:06:45 *	guruvan wonders if the bot is flawed or smart
Apr 16 11:06:50 <mircea_popescu>	im not terivbly sure it's flawed.
Apr 16 11:06:59 <mircea_popescu>	we are looking into it, but overall it's a difficult argument.
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Apr 16 11:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	anwyay. deposits flushed.
Apr 16 11:07:16 <guruvan>	I wouldn't let most any of my own automated trader bots trade in this market
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Apr 16 11:07:45 <mircea_popescu>	the chief idea here is that mechanisms that exist to make this a market, and serious, and worth money, and respectable,
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Apr 16 11:07:50 <mircea_popescu>	can be wrecked by people being idiots.
Apr 16 11:08:09 <mircea_popescu>	inasmuch as people behave idiotically they have not the right to functioning mechanisms, nor are entitled to actual service.
Apr 16 11:08:21 <guruvan>	swing machetes made of USD around wildly in the air
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Apr 16 11:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the one most bitter lesson btc will force down people's throats is that elusive personal responsibility thing.
Apr 16 11:09:21 <mircea_popescu>	that conservatives always roil about and socialists keep pretending to have never quite heard of.
Apr 16 11:09:39 <ThickAsThieves>	didnt know the bot was so political
Apr 16 11:10:12 <guruvan>	maybe the bot should tweet
Apr 16 11:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 16 11:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	nature of the world is political sadly.
Apr 16 11:13:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 90 @ 0.2 = 18 BTC
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Apr 16 11:17:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 18 @ 0.2 = 3.6 BTC
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Apr 16 11:19:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.861 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 11:25:17 <kakobrekla>	17:22.30 ( coinmaster ) [MtGox] BTC 66.920 USD (-1.280 USD)
Apr 16 11:25:17 <kakobrekla>	17:22.34 ( coinmaster ) [Stamp] BTC 74.780 USD (+0.780 USD)
Apr 16 11:25:20 <kakobrekla>	lulz
Apr 16 11:26:26 *	CyrusV is now known as CyrusAFK
Apr 16 11:26:27 <kakobrekla>	/rally -on
Apr 16 11:26:50 <kakobrekla>	!r CyrusAFK
Apr 16 11:28:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZaOhMk1r5I
Apr 16 11:28:29 <kakobrekla>	well
Apr 16 11:28:35 <kakobrekla>	we have some buying happening
Apr 16 11:28:36 <kakobrekla>	76
Apr 16 11:28:38 <kakobrekla>	77
Apr 16 11:28:39 <kakobrekla>	lmao
Apr 16 11:28:47 <kakobrekla>	78
Apr 16 11:28:57 <ThickAsThieves>	hold for my deposits plzzzzz
Apr 16 11:29:22 <kakobrekla>	someone wanted 10k btc
Apr 16 11:29:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.80101 BTC [-]
Apr 16 11:29:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.801 BTC [-]
Apr 16 11:29:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.790301 = 3.9515 BTC [-]
Apr 16 11:29:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7903 = 1.5806 BTC [-]
Apr 16 11:29:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7903 = 1.5806 BTC [-]
Apr 16 11:29:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.790233 = 2.3707 BTC [-]
Apr 16 11:30:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.790202 = 3.951 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 11:30:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7902 BTC [-]
Apr 16 11:30:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7901 = 3.9505 BTC [-]
Apr 16 11:30:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.79 = 7.11 BTC [-]
Apr 16 11:30:59 <ThickAsThieves>	so everything's back to normal!
Apr 16 11:31:08 <ThickAsThieves>	buy buy buy ;)
Apr 16 11:31:55 <ThickAsThieves>	lag is back?
Apr 16 11:31:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 16 11:32:00 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 8.284369 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0166017827196 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).
Apr 16 11:32:27 <ThickAsThieves>	got pizza on the processor again
Apr 16 11:33:02 *	ThickAsThieves puts on his tinfoil hat
Apr 16 11:33:09 <ThickAsThieves>	So now they freez at high price
Apr 16 11:33:14 <ThickAsThieves>	to influence markets
Apr 16 11:33:18 <ThickAsThieves>	to buy
Apr 16 11:33:24 <ThickAsThieves>	for another big dump
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Apr 16 11:33:58 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 16 11:33:58 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2.067305 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0041428560733 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
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Apr 16 11:34:24 <bgupta>	ddos?
Apr 16 11:34:37 <joecool>	quality
Apr 16 11:34:44 <bgupta>	feels ddos-like since sites other mtgox are acting wonky
Apr 16 11:34:46 <joecool>	that's the upgraded hardware
Apr 16 11:34:50 <joecool>	doing its job
Apr 16 11:34:57 <pgp>	and back down again
Apr 16 11:35:00 <bgupta>	other than mtgox
Apr 16 11:35:43 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 16 11:35:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.13370, Best ask: 71.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06629, Last trade: 71.30500, 24 hour volume: 599982.61592459, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 96.41990, 24 hour vwap: 68.47706
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Apr 16 11:36:43 <ThickAsThieves>	burnside wake up!
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Apr 16 11:39:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1551 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 11:42:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC
Apr 16 11:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 1 @ 0.2 BTC
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Apr 16 11:51:35 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 16 11:51:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.00000, Best ask: 77.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 77.00000, 24 hour volume: 604694.37166289, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 96.35000, 24 hour vwap: 68.48964
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Apr 16 11:57:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00365 = 7.3 BTC [+]
Apr 16 11:57:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00365001 = 3.65 BTC [+]
Apr 16 11:57:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00355003 = 3.55 BTC [-]
Apr 16 11:58:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 15 @ 0.2 = 3 BTC
Apr 16 11:58:26 <KRS-1>	looking much better
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Apr 16 11:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC
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Apr 16 12:06:06 <pgp>	24h volume is 614k on gox - my, my, that's a lot of coin
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Apr 16 12:13:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14399 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 12:15:36 <Namworld>	pgp: I have traded over 2500 BTC on ~250 BTC...
Apr 16 12:16:02 <Namworld>	614k is probably less than actual BTC traded, probably a good chunk of back and forth
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Apr 16 12:16:58 <Namworld>	Fortunately...
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Apr 16 12:18:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.43 = 1.72 BTC [+]
Apr 16 12:19:18 <error4733>	;;next
Apr 16 12:19:19 <gribble>	57-58 support | resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 5 hours, 39 minutes, and 17 seconds ago
Apr 16 12:21:33 <Namworld>	...
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Apr 16 12:23:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14399 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 12:24:07 <Diablo-D3>	;;next
Apr 16 12:24:08 <gribble>	57-58 support | resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 5 hours, 44 minutes, and 6 seconds ago
Apr 16 12:24:15 <Diablo-D3>	oh nice
Apr 16 12:24:25 <kakobrekla>	this is not nice
Apr 16 12:24:28 <kakobrekla>	you are not polite
Apr 16 12:24:32 <kakobrekla>	behave.
Apr 16 12:24:59 <jurov>	;;ticker
Apr 16 12:25:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.00000, Best ask: 75.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 75.00000, 24 hour volume: 619256.52243863, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 95.99999, 24 hour vwap: 68.57269
Apr 16 12:25:18 <jurov>	95? when?
Apr 16 12:25:26 <kakobrekla>	yesterday
Apr 16 12:25:35 <Namworld>	yeah
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Apr 16 12:27:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14399 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 12:27:55 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2013/04/15/good-love/
Apr 16 12:27:58 <jcpham>	more blog
Apr 16 12:28:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2112 @ 0.0036 = 7.6032 BTC [+]
Apr 16 12:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00350001 = 3.5 BTC [-]
Apr 16 12:29:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 13 @ 0.2 = 2.6 BTC
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Apr 16 12:31:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
Apr 16 12:31:34 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 16 12:31:43 <kakobrekla>	i just switched that video to 2.30 or smth
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Apr 16 12:31:48 <kakobrekla>	whats that garbage
Apr 16 12:32:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC
Apr 16 12:32:16 <kakobrekla>	failing to imitate outcast
Apr 16 12:32:17 <jcpham>	cats in heat murdering each other
Apr 16 12:32:26 <joecool>	HIV
Apr 16 12:32:50 <jcpham>	marvin gaye after that
Apr 16 12:32:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
Apr 16 12:33:30 <error4733>	;;asks 89.9
Apr 16 12:33:31 <gribble>	There are currently 28254.964 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 2384060.18064 USD in total. | Data vintage: 34.7650 seconds
Apr 16 12:33:42 <KRS-1>	;;bids 80
Apr 16 12:33:42 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.6460 seconds
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Apr 16 12:34:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00340001 = 3.4 BTC [-]
Apr 16 12:35:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC
Apr 16 12:37:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3740 @ 0.00069482 = 2.5986 BTC [+]
Apr 16 12:37:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14001 BTC [-]
Apr 16 12:37:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 12:44:23 <Scrat>	;;ticker --vol
Apr 16 12:44:24 <gribble>	625728.90077261
Apr 16 12:44:26 <Scrat>	sick
Apr 16 12:45:04 <error4733>	;;asks 89.9
Apr 16 12:45:06 <gribble>	There are currently 24685.39 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 2107078.45197 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
Apr 16 12:46:20 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 16 12:46:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.25100, Best ask: 80.44815, Bid-ask spread: 0.19715, Last trade: 80.44815, 24 hour volume: 629746.79613590, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 95.90000, 24 hour vwap: 68.70007
Apr 16 12:47:08 <ThickAsThieves>	;;next
Apr 16 12:47:08 <gribble>	57-58 support | resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 6 hours, 7 minutes, and 6 seconds ago
Apr 16 12:47:35 <error4733>	;;eightball 90$ today ?
Apr 16 12:47:35 <gribble>	The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
Apr 16 12:48:25 <Bugpowder>	it was just a temporary setback guys
Apr 16 12:48:29 <Bugpowder>	moving ALL IN
Apr 16 12:48:41 <Namworld>	;;eightball Will price go down to 40 USD/BTC today?
Apr 16 12:48:42 <gribble>	The answer is certainly yes.
Apr 16 12:49:13 <error4733>	go home eightball u'r drunk
Apr 16 12:50:34 <error4733>	still 70% cashed out bug ?
Apr 16 12:50:45 <Bugpowder>	nope
Apr 16 12:50:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 16 12:50:48 <Bugpowder>	100%
Apr 16 12:50:51 <Bugpowder>	actually
Apr 16 12:50:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.17999 BTC [+]
Apr 16 12:50:58 <Namworld>	100% cashed out... sounds like me
Apr 16 12:50:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [+]
Apr 16 12:51:00 <Bugpowder>	need to cash out the proceeds from the call sales
Apr 16 12:51:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1885 BTC [+]
Apr 16 12:51:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.19 = 1.14 BTC [+]
Apr 16 12:51:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 100 @ 0.19 = 19 BTC [+]
Apr 16 12:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.37 = 3.7 BTC [+]
Apr 16 12:52:08 <kakobrekla>	you are moving in at 80?
Apr 16 12:52:27 <error4733>	he wait for 30
Apr 16 12:52:35 <kakobrekla>	18:48.24 ( Bugpowder ) moving ALL IN
Apr 16 12:52:43 <Bugpowder>	joking
Apr 16 12:52:49 <Bugpowder>	sorry
Apr 16 12:53:02 <kakobrekla>	well i wouldnt be suprised tbh
Apr 16 12:53:13 <error4733>	;;asks 89.9
Apr 16 12:53:13 <Bugpowder>	hee hee
Apr 16 12:53:15 <gribble>	There are currently 20219.645 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 1753446.30424 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
Apr 16 12:53:52 <Bugpowder>	I just wish I hadn't sold what I picked up at 52 and 51 last night
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Apr 16 12:54:07 <Bugpowder>	good trade needs good entry, check, good exit, FAIL.
Apr 16 12:54:32 <kakobrekla>	exit is the bigger part of the trade
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Apr 16 12:55:42 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 16 12:55:42 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 18.6353 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0373449325488 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
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Apr 16 13:01:05 <Bugpowder>	OK.  Final Ponzi Plot update.  Future updates will start from $1 again.
Apr 16 13:01:07 <Bugpowder>	http://i.imgur.com/weHoYzJ.png
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Apr 16 13:03:05 <Bugpowder>	dope track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSaYQc3z7us
Apr 16 13:04:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00069482 = 2.7793 BTC [+]
Apr 16 13:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/because-most-people-are-idiots-in-spite-of-never-manning-up-and-admitting-to-it/#comment-92759
Apr 16 13:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	there's a bunch of people looking to verbally invest into btc
Apr 16 13:05:31 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 16 13:05:39 <mircea_popescu>	i'm getting a few dozen a week by now.
Apr 16 13:05:56 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder what's the headcount of bullshit artists at today. 4bn ? 7bn ?
Apr 16 13:07:22 <Bugpowder>	You know what's cooler than claiming a $100,000 investment in BTC?  Claiming a $10,000,000 investment.
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Apr 16 13:07:49 <mircea_popescu>	you know what's more idiotic than claiming you're a millionaire while begging for free pizza ?
Apr 16 13:08:30 <Bugpowder>	no imagination these days.
Apr 16 13:08:35 <Bugpowder>	gotta think big peopel!
Apr 16 13:09:29 <kakobrekla>	i think some became millionaries by begging for free pizzas
Apr 16 13:10:20 <error4733>	some became millionaries with 2 pizzas
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Apr 16 13:10:46 <kakobrekla>	yeah mp you really should have picked a different dish
Apr 16 13:11:09 <kakobrekla>	pizzas have implications.
Apr 16 13:11:13 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 16 13:11:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.20000, Best ask: 74.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 75.00000, 24 hour volume: 643361.01494130, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 94.67089, 24 hour vwap: 68.78895
Apr 16 13:11:17 <Bugpowder>	One of the more exciting moments from last night...  http://i.imgur.com/2cJLOTO.png
Apr 16 13:11:47 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla they do ?! what ?
Apr 16 13:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	o nm lol.
Apr 16 13:12:00 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. baklava.
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Apr 16 13:12:51 <kakobrekla>	yeah i pasted a link to the book when it was showing that
Apr 16 13:12:56 <kakobrekla>	but dub said 'wut'
Apr 16 13:13:03 <Bugpowder>	yes and I capped it
Apr 16 13:14:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:14:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.00064 = 0.128 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:14:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00063 = 0.0032 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:14:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 40 @ 0.00062 = 0.0248 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:14:53 <kakobrekla>	>>http://i.imgur.com/2cJLOTO.png
Apr 16 13:14:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 250 @ 0.00061 = 0.1525 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:14:58 <kakobrekla>	did you name it LOTO ?
Apr 16 13:15:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.000609 = 0.0122 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:15:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000608 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:15:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 726 @ 0.000608 = 0.4414 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:15:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 99 @ 0.000607 = 0.0601 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:15:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.0006 = 0.0024 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:15:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.0006 = 0.12 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:15:28 <mircea_popescu>	there goes the 50-100k investment ;/
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Apr 16 13:15:50 <Bugpowder>	nope
Apr 16 13:16:01 <kakobrekla>	cause it was a lottery
Apr 16 13:16:02 <Bugpowder>	its the new YOLO
Apr 16 13:16:24 <kakobrekla>	hehe
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Apr 16 13:18:27 <Bugpowder>	646,000 BTC / 24hr
Apr 16 13:18:37 <Bugpowder>	just keeps rising
Apr 16 13:18:56 <kakobrekla>	good sign i guess
Apr 16 13:19:30 <Bugpowder>	lack of lag is nice
Apr 16 13:19:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00058 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:19:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3725 @ 0.000566 = 2.1084 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:20:09 <jcpham>	my wife just brought me a sandwich and walked out\
Apr 16 13:20:17 <Bugpowder>	I wonder how much added liquidity is a result of the reduced fees from couting all the volume during the free trade period towards current fee schedule.
Apr 16 13:20:20 <Scrat>	jcpham: sounds like a good wife
Apr 16 13:20:28 <jcpham>	i'm speechless
Apr 16 13:20:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.003811 = 0.061 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:20:58 <kakobrekla>	jcpham you need to start with domestication early
Apr 16 13:21:01 <kakobrekla>	thats is the trick
Apr 16 13:21:08 <Scrat>	it's just the whales playing with each other
Apr 16 13:21:11 <Scrat>	they will get bored
Apr 16 13:21:13 <jcpham>	it has bacon on it too
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Apr 16 13:21:45 <error4733>	she know you have hard time
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Apr 16 13:21:48 <kakobrekla>	theyll get borred and go back fapping sdice
Apr 16 13:21:50 <Scrat>	the bugpowdery whales
Apr 16 13:21:51 <deadweasel_work>	well you already married her, all you can do now is eat your sandwich
Apr 16 13:21:57 <jcpham>	ikr
Apr 16 13:22:02 <jcpham>	need to do something for her
Apr 16 13:22:18 <kakobrekla>	return empty plate?
Apr 16 13:22:26 <jcpham>	perfect plan!\
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Apr 16 13:22:40 <error4733>	ask for a second round, best compliment ever
Apr 16 13:22:45 <deadweasel_work>	just tell her you love her and don't dutch oven her.  that should be good for a while.
Apr 16 13:23:02 <Scrat>	"blow me while i day trade honey"
Apr 16 13:23:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.837 = 1.674 BTC [+]
Apr 16 13:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	so is jcpham dead from cyanide poisoning yet ?
Apr 16 13:23:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.0006891 = 4.6514 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:24:10 <error4733>	did she ask how reddem a private key yesterday ?
Apr 16 13:24:48 <unbalanced>	Bugpowder, what's the red USD scale in that last plot? USD/BTC? Thousands? I think I get the blue scale.
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Apr 16 13:25:00 <jcpham>	sadly she knows the passphrase to my wallet
Apr 16 13:25:05 <Bugpowder>	fold gain in $ terms
Apr 16 13:25:32 <jcpham>	...if only she knew how to mount an encrypted truecrypt container
Apr 16 13:25:32 <error4733>	so its 5 letter max ! sounds a bad passphrase !
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Apr 16 13:27:22 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 16 13:27:22 <gribble>	There are currently 52749739 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12462919.8992 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.3470 seconds
Apr 16 13:27:46 <error4733>	16M$ yesterday :/ sick sick
Apr 16 13:28:32 <Bugpowder>	10M early this morning
Apr 16 13:28:41 <unbalanced>	Ah, it was just the $ on the axis labels throwing me off.
Apr 16 13:28:43 <Bugpowder>	I'm losing faith in the predictive power of this indicator
Apr 16 13:29:38 <kakobrekla>	there is a lot of noise
Apr 16 13:30:15 <unbalanced>	So the plot ends at 25x in USD terms, 3x in BTC terms. That'll do, pig. That'll do.
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Apr 16 13:31:32 <Bugpowder>	it sounds so small when you say it like that
Apr 16 13:31:53 <unbalanced>	(Has anyone seen the movie "Babe"? No?)
Apr 16 13:32:09 <Bugpowder>	the talking pig movie?
Apr 16 13:32:11 <Bugpowder>	no
Apr 16 13:32:14 <unbalanced>	File it under famous movie understatements.
Apr 16 13:32:57 <unbalanced>	The pig saves the farm, incredible achievements transpire, and the perpetually grumpy farmer finally says something positive.
Apr 16 13:33:59 <unbalanced>	http://stream.pleated-jeans.com/post/8902740029/thatll-do-pig
Apr 16 13:34:25 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Apr 16 13:37:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.51 = 1.02 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 13:37:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19499 BTC [+]
Apr 16 13:37:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 113 @ 0.195 = 22.035 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 13:44:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.80599 = 8.0599 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:44:17 <jcpham>	http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20130416-909009.html
Apr 16 13:44:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.805 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:44:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.801 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:44:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.801 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:44:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.791 = 15.82 BTC [-]
Apr 16 13:45:04 <Scrat>	binary bets :/
Apr 16 13:47:14 <pgp>	binany options is like satoshi dice...  negative EV
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Apr 16 13:50:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19899 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 13:50:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15001 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 13:52:34 <Bugpowder>	Back to 70
Apr 16 13:52:41 <mircea_popescu>	well pretty much every scam has to be tried out at least once
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Apr 16 13:53:23 <Bugpowder>	did u see the million dollar bitcoin homepage
Apr 16 13:53:23 <Bugpowder>	?
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Apr 16 13:56:06 <deadweasel_work>	lol, just read bitcoin-assets.com again.  "- don’t slap yourself [in public] (yes you DeadWeasel), it’s spammy"
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Apr 16 13:57:12 <pgp>	thinking about getting long? http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bad-idea-jeans/17w5aaq4o
Apr 16 13:57:47 <kakobrekla>	us only
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Apr 16 13:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder the million dollar bitycoin ? or the bitbillion ?
Apr 16 13:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	or bitmillions or w/e the fuck ? thye kinda run together by now
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Apr 16 13:59:31 <Bugpowder>	http://www.milliondollarbitcoinhomepage.com/faq.php
Apr 16 13:59:35 <Bugpowder>	The faq is pretty embarrassing... suprised he hasn't taken it down yet.
Apr 16 13:59:44 <Bugpowder>	Filling up fast. http://www.milliondollarbitcoinhomepage.com/index.php
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Apr 16 14:01:19 <mircea_popescu>	heh. is this a buttcoin parody ?
Apr 16 14:01:21 <kakobrekla>	i bought it all and painted gray
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Apr 16 14:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	"14.04.2013
Apr 16 14:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	Website Traffic
Apr 16 14:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	The site traffic is growing every day! Today almost 1,000 uniques and counting. Be the first to pick up your spot on the homepage. Prime time to pick the best spots =)"
Apr 16 14:02:31 <deyyo>	lol at the faq….that is so retarded
Apr 16 14:03:10 <Bugpowder>	he should seed the page with some fake ads
Apr 16 14:03:21 <Bugpowder>	put an mpex and mtgox ad on there
Apr 16 14:03:27 <Bugpowder>	give it some cred
Apr 16 14:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	he did ?!
Apr 16 14:04:03 <mircea_popescu>	Available: 1,000,000     Busy: 0
Apr 16 14:04:04 <mircea_popescu>	where ?
Apr 16 14:04:07 <kakobrekla>	im just trying to see how much it costs to write fuck you there but its expecive as shit
Apr 16 14:04:35 <Bugpowder>	he should
Apr 16 14:04:50 <Bugpowder>	not clever enough
Apr 16 14:05:04 <jcpham>	http://i.imgur.com/9uxIPKb.png
Apr 16 14:05:06 <jcpham>	I WIN
Apr 16 14:05:10 <Bugpowder>	the street musician ALWAYS has some money in the hat
Apr 16 14:05:22 <mircea_popescu>	he's not smart enough to make a buck busking
Apr 16 14:05:26 <mircea_popescu>	hence why he's on the internet.
Apr 16 14:06:08 <mircea_popescu>	also, 100 dollars per pixel ? what's this to do with bitcoins.
Apr 16 14:06:28 <jcpham>	shrug i got bored of drawing dicks
Apr 16 14:07:13 <jcpham>	doesn't minesweeper for shit
Apr 16 14:07:16 <joecool>	8======>~~~~~~~~
Apr 16 14:07:19 <jcpham>	never found a single mine
Apr 16 14:07:32 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Apr 16 14:07:42 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 16 14:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	thats because you're so good at it.
Apr 16 14:08:46 <jcpham>	drawing dicks or playing minesweeper ;)?
Apr 16 14:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.71 = 5.13 BTC [+]
Apr 16 14:09:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.70000001 BTC [-]
Apr 16 14:09:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.7 = 8.5 BTC [-]
Apr 16 14:09:12 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 16 14:09:36 <kakobrekla>	finding dick patterns in the freemine zone
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Apr 16 14:09:58 <joecool>	that's a minesweeping tactic
Apr 16 14:10:00 <jcpham>	here's a funny story
Apr 16 14:10:09 <jcpham>	this one time i was sitting around this campfire
Apr 16 14:10:12 <joecool>	the dicks i mean
Apr 16 14:10:19 <jcpham>	this 12 year old kid blurts out
Apr 16 14:10:31 <jcpham>	"that fire looks like satan's penis!"
Apr 16 14:10:34 <jcpham>	i say
Apr 16 14:10:48 <jcpham>	"excuse me, were you thinking about dicks just now?"
Apr 16 14:10:53 <jcpham>	everyone laughs at kid
Apr 16 14:11:08 <pgp>	kid commits suicide...
Apr 16 14:11:14 <jcpham>	yeah...
Apr 16 14:11:31 <jcpham>	poor guy was broken in front of his peers
Apr 16 14:13:33 <Diablo-D3>	the only proper response to that is "I was thinking how your mom fits mine perfectly"
Apr 16 14:13:54 <pgp>	only response
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Apr 16 14:16:52 <mircea_popescu>	that awkward moment when you're watching a vid of some girls going down some stairs and exlaim "wait a second, this is that hotel in belgrade"
Apr 16 14:17:09 <mircea_popescu>	only to immediately realise that a. yes it is, b. they're getting banged and c. that's actually when you were there.
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Apr 16 14:17:38 <mircea_popescu>	worse than satan penis. now people think i'm going senile.
Apr 16 14:17:59 <jurov>	how does that follow?
Apr 16 14:18:40 <jurov>	you forgot you filmed them?
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Apr 16 14:19:31 <mircea_popescu>	i didn't film it
Apr 16 14:19:50 <mircea_popescu>	i was just there in case they needed money to replace destroyed underwear etc.
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Apr 16 14:20:08 <joecool>	sounds reasonable
Apr 16 14:21:04 <deadweasel_work>	my underwear is in tatters:   1GdtkZzhZTzBssUq6bnE27cz4rv5SJ4sr5
Apr 16 14:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	must have proof first miss.
Apr 16 14:22:37 <jurov>	deadweasel you whore, how is my job?
Apr 16 14:23:23 <deadweasel_work>	it's in the queue.
Apr 16 14:23:29 <jurov>	don't tell me you fapped hard and spranied wrist again :)
Apr 16 14:23:46 <mircea_popescu>	this time he was tryhing something new
Apr 16 14:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	and sprained his thumb
Apr 16 14:24:19 <deadweasel_work>	new AND exciting!
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Apr 16 14:27:49 <mircea_popescu>	"This is not the case here. Paying the 30BTC doesn’t mean that other people can then trade via me and I will be able to earn commissions from their trades."
Apr 16 14:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	according to new research.
Apr 16 14:29:21 <jurov>	where? i so want to troll them that i paid for special broker license
Apr 16 14:29:32 <mircea_popescu>	on trilema
Apr 16 14:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	people have found the article where some doods who explain how $600 is way too much are being hammered, and want to add their own "$3000 is too much" contributions.
Apr 16 14:30:44 <mircea_popescu>	basically the internet is this place where funny just grows. like a sort of agar for humor.
Apr 16 14:31:03 <KRS-1>	or fungus
Apr 16 14:32:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00069482 = 3.5158 BTC [+]
Apr 16 14:32:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1315 @ 0.00069802 = 0.9179 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 14:33:05 <jurov>	Yes, you’re correct. For reselling MPEx account, you need special broker license from exclusive reseller such as CoinBr.com. To obtain it, please send 99 BTC to CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb .
Apr 16 14:33:15 <jurov>	ftw
Apr 16 14:33:37 <mircea_popescu>	no 1 ?
Apr 16 14:33:40 <mircea_popescu>	you started your own scamcoin ?
Apr 16 14:34:03 <jurov>	no, just issuing mpex broker licenses
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Apr 16 14:34:38 <jurov>	lets see what happens nao
Apr 16 14:34:56 <EskimoBob>	;;goxlag
Apr 16 14:34:56 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 16 14:34:59 <EskimoBob>	;;ticker
Apr 16 14:34:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.22100, Best ask: 69.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75900, Last trade: 69.22100, 24 hour volume: 657938.34800807, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 93.00998, 24 hour vwap: 68.33931
Apr 16 14:35:09 <deadweasel_work>	don't forget the monthly upkeep fee.
Apr 16 14:35:48 <jurov>	that's there, in fine print
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Apr 16 14:39:14 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if the two are the same one guy.
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Apr 16 14:45:43 <jborkl>	holy shit, you see unconfirmed transactions
Apr 16 14:45:48 <jborkl>	5674
Apr 16 14:46:08 <jborkl>	well a block just went through, still over 5000
Apr 16 14:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 16 14:46:57 <Bugpowder>	I see 962
Apr 16 14:48:39 <jborkl>	well, it just randomly changed for me also, now at 1100
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Apr 16 14:49:26 <jborkl>	back to showing 5300
Apr 16 14:49:51 <Scrat>	ahahah
Apr 16 14:49:55 <Scrat>	;;title https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IbSOHwCOnG0#t=304s
Apr 16 14:49:56 <gribble>	Keiser Report: Magic of Bitcoin Gathering (E432) - YouTube
Apr 16 14:50:02 <Bugpowder>	not for me
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Apr 16 14:50:42 <kakobrekla>	is this a parody on MTG?
Apr 16 14:51:02 <Bugpowder>	Wow.  I never actually watched Max.  He really looks and sounds like a troll.
Apr 16 14:51:07 <Bugpowder>	like a real troll
Apr 16 14:51:10 <Scrat>	you never know with max keiser
Apr 16 14:51:12 <Scrat>	poe's law applies
Apr 16 14:51:12 <joecool>	lol for real
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Apr 16 14:51:38 <joecool>	i wonder if he lives under a bridge, i notice there's a bridge in the background behind him
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Apr 16 14:52:49 <jcpham>	who's got a bridge for sale?
Apr 16 14:52:53 <kakobrekla>	no cause he sold his coins in time :)
Apr 16 14:53:32 <jcpham>	pretty sure keiser pumped and dumped already
Apr 16 14:53:38 <jcpham>	can't listen to him anymore
Apr 16 14:53:46 <Namworld>	Selling bridge! Only 200000 BTC!
Apr 16 14:53:54 <deyyo>	i couldn't watch him for more than 10 seconds...
Apr 16 14:53:57 <Namworld>	Yeah, I'm sure he sold near the top
Apr 16 14:54:00 <deyyo>	he just looks and sounds retarded
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Apr 16 14:54:39 <Scrat>	i have overlayed gollum on max keiser
Apr 16 14:54:46 <Scrat>	proportions match perfectly
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Apr 16 14:55:20 <Namworld>	He looks like gollum, but with more hairs and not yet as skinny
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Apr 16 14:55:54 <error4733>	some of you already bought something on bitmit ?
Apr 16 14:55:55 <kakobrekla>	its still better than half of the shit you find outthere about bitcoin
Apr 16 14:56:28 <error4733>	i need btc on my account before bidding or i can fill my account after & pay ?
Apr 16 14:56:53 <Bugpowder>	hmmm... gox is over 80%  http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h
Apr 16 14:57:03 <Bugpowder>	I thought lower
Apr 16 14:58:35 <Namworld>	Scrat, maybe if Bitcoins dies one day, when all BTC are lost to lost keys, he'll have the last cascacius coin, the last bitcoin, saying "My Precious"
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Apr 16 15:00:01 <pgp>	"krugman is a complete bimbo"
Apr 16 15:00:07 <kakobrekla>	o lloky bitpay guy in the keiser show
Apr 16 15:00:10 <kakobrekla>	looky*
Apr 16 15:00:21 <kakobrekla>	he is everywhere
Apr 16 15:00:27 <Scrat>	Namworld :'(
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Apr 16 15:01:13 <deadweasel_work>	scrat, link us to gollum keiser?
Apr 16 15:01:28 <kakobrekla>	$vwap
Apr 16 15:01:30 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ji7dHBNm
Apr 16 15:01:38 <Scrat>	sorry I exited photoshop in disgust
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Apr 16 15:04:33 <Scrat>	mtgox    x232 3,021.3251 @    68.73813904 USD
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Apr 16 15:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.51499989 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 15:13:42 <kakobrekla>	also wtf "even if you were to take over the network people would see it comming....... you cant fllip a switch and take 51% of the network"
Apr 16 15:13:45 <kakobrekla>	is he retarded?
Apr 16 15:13:47 <kakobrekla>	srsly
Apr 16 15:14:28 <kakobrekla>	even the big stars get it wrong
Apr 16 15:14:31 <kakobrekla>	fucked
Apr 16 15:15:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000699 BTC [+]
Apr 16 15:16:19 <pgp>	that is not what prisoners dilemma is all about - is it?
Apr 16 15:16:22 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla who;s rthat ?
Apr 16 15:16:30 <mircea_popescu>	sounds a lot like the internet is not like a truck argument.
Apr 16 15:16:46 <kakobrekla>	the bitpay dude
Apr 16 15:16:49 <kakobrekla>	on the keiser show
Apr 16 15:17:01 <pgp>	ridiculous...
Apr 16 15:17:17 <pgp>	does he really have a .ru email address?
Apr 16 15:17:39 <Namworld>	[15:13] <kakobrekla> also wtf "even if you were to take over the network people would see it comming....... you cant fllip a switch and take 51% of the network"
Apr 16 15:17:57 <Namworld>	Well... if someone were to do that... that's exactly how they'd do it.
Apr 16 15:18:34 <Diablo-D3>	exactly
Apr 16 15:18:38 <Diablo-D3>	thats how I'd do it if I wanted to
Apr 16 15:18:41 <pgp>	critical level here
Apr 16 15:18:48 <Diablo-D3>	and I'd leave the shit on just enough to make it work
Apr 16 15:18:51 <Diablo-D3>	and then flip it back off
Apr 16 15:19:20 <kakobrekla>	luckly for us it doesnt matter what you would do
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Apr 16 15:19:55 <pgp>	actually, isn't hashing power now more concentrated than ever?
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Apr 16 15:20:10 <Namworld>	yes
Apr 16 15:20:13 <Diablo-D3>	pgp: wont be after asicminer unleashes a 200th load all over your face
Apr 16 15:20:21 <Namworld>	Mostly in ASICMINER's hands
Apr 16 15:20:32 <Namworld>	they'll reach 51% at this rate
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Apr 16 15:21:14 <pgp>	right - so...   that doesn't seem so secure to me...
Apr 16 15:21:34 <pgp>	that's the reason yifu started avalon, right?
Apr 16 15:21:56 <pgp>	down we go...
Apr 16 15:22:59 <pgp>	c'mon - sell, sell, sell!
Apr 16 15:23:04 <mircea_popescu>	pgp yea.
Apr 16 15:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld i think avalon is delivering.
Apr 16 15:23:36 <pgp>	so, extrpolate into the future - how does the mining shit play out?
Apr 16 15:24:31 <Namworld>	good
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Apr 16 15:24:35 <Namworld>	going to add some balance
Apr 16 15:24:47 <Namworld>	BFL failed at that
Apr 16 15:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine more people will make more chips.
Apr 16 15:25:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3975 @ 0.00070239 = 2.792 BTC [+]
Apr 16 15:25:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2925 @ 0.0006891 = 2.0156 BTC [-]
Apr 16 15:26:04 <punkman>	then the cheapest electricity qina
Apr 16 15:26:09 <punkman>	*wins
Apr 16 15:27:32 <pgp>	watch out below
Apr 16 15:27:38 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 16 15:27:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.94000, Best ask: 66.00100, Bid-ask spread: 0.06100, Last trade: 66.30000, 24 hour volume: 664521.94526845, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 91.00000, 24 hour vwap: 68.15425
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Apr 16 15:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.366 = 0.732 BTC [-]
Apr 16 15:30:17 <jcpham>	to good to be true? https://cloudhashing.com/contracts/indefinite-contracts
Apr 16 15:30:53 <jcpham>	Using our powerful ASIC cloud, we simplify the mining process for you.
Apr 16 15:31:03 <alex1234567>	Luke-Jr: pingh
Apr 16 15:31:15 <Luke-Jr>	?
Apr 16 15:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham sounds like it.
Apr 16 15:31:35 <jcpham>	luke-jr what do think about this cloudhashing scam
Apr 16 15:31:44 <tk993>	I'd say, yeah, sounds too good to be true, jcpham.
Apr 16 15:31:44 <alex1234567>	Luke-Jr: can you by any chance do hardware based c coding?
Apr 16 15:31:46 <jcpham>	i can't get behind their economic model
Apr 16 15:31:53 <Luke-Jr>	jcpham: even if it weren't a scam, it defeats the point of mining even more than centralized pools
Apr 16 15:31:59 <Luke-Jr>	alex1234567: what?
Apr 16 15:32:10 <alex1234567>	Luke-Jr: programming chips etc
Apr 16 15:32:12 <jcpham>	doesn't seem any worse than asicminer
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Apr 16 15:32:28 <Luke-Jr>	jcpham: well, ASICMiner has the same problem
Apr 16 15:32:29 <Luke-Jr>	had*
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Apr 16 15:35:58 <Namworld>	;;bids 0
Apr 16 15:36:00 <gribble>	There are currently 1.0566017e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11861233.5045 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0078 seconds
Apr 16 15:36:12 <Namworld>	I switched gribble to e+ numbers
Apr 16 15:36:47 <ThickAsThieves>	noooooo
Apr 16 15:36:49 <Namworld>	Of all bids, Me: 1 billion, Rest of the world: 56.6 millions
Apr 16 15:36:57 <Namworld>	I won
Apr 16 15:37:11 <ThickAsThieves>	thats hideous
Apr 16 15:37:12 <Namworld>	Where's my trophy for stupid achievements
Apr 16 15:37:22 <mircea_popescu>	8==D
Apr 16 15:38:07 <ThickAsThieves>	8==D ~o   ~o   ~o      on your e+
Apr 16 15:38:31 <Scrat>	~°
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Apr 16 15:38:50 <Bugpowder>	American Airlines DDOS?  http://www.aa.com/homePage.do
Apr 16 15:39:07 <Bugpowder>	unlikely I'm sure
Apr 16 15:40:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;asks 100
Apr 16 15:40:07 <gribble>	There are currently 62882.521 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 5473189.36504 USD in total. | Data vintage: 84.2062 seconds
Apr 16 15:40:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 0
Apr 16 15:40:15 <gribble>	There are currently 1.0566017e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11859030.3747 USD in total. | Data vintage: 91.7733 seconds
Apr 16 15:40:31 <ThickAsThieves>	so lame
Apr 16 15:41:03 <jborkl>	there is something else with AA, they asked the FAA to ground all the flights?
Apr 16 15:41:06 <kakobrekla>	;;bids 1
Apr 16 15:41:08 <gribble>	There are currently 710752.61 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 11622897.2427 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0074 seconds
Apr 16 15:41:24 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 16 15:42:58 <Scrat>	bear sperm ~.
Apr 16 15:43:04 <Scrat>	bull sperm ~°
Apr 16 15:43:21 <Scrat>	ok ill go away now
Apr 16 15:44:33 <Namworld>	It's not lame. I represent like 95% of the bids orderbook in BTC denomination now.
Apr 16 15:45:23 <Namworld>	;;bids 0
Apr 16 15:45:23 <gribble>	There are currently 1.0565969e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11854275.4436 USD in total. | Data vintage: 107.0922 seconds
Apr 16 15:45:27 <Namworld>	hmm...
Apr 16 15:45:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00070244 = 4.7766 BTC [+]
Apr 16 15:45:59 <mircea_popescu>	i hope you made the orders in .001 btc increments.
Apr 16 15:46:23 <Namworld>	0.01BTC minimum lol =P
Apr 16 15:46:34 <Namworld>	Would have been fun actually
Apr 16 15:47:06 <Namworld>	0.00001 USD minimum bid... 0.0000001 cost per bid
Apr 16 15:47:15 <Namworld>	Well that would have killed gox's engine
Apr 16 15:47:45 <jborkl>	I am assuming SD is undergoin a DDOS attack now
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Apr 16 15:48:26 <Namworld>	;;bids 0
Apr 16 15:48:27 <gribble>	There are currently 1.0565969e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11830042.4309 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.4155 seconds
Apr 16 15:48:36 <Namworld>	hey, I removed the order...
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Apr 16 15:48:39 <Namworld>	slow gribble
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Apr 16 15:53:12 <xait9>	assbot
Apr 16 15:53:43 <Namworld>	;;bids 0
Apr 16 15:53:45 <gribble>	There are currently 56594480 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11572274.4877 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0086 seconds
Apr 16 15:53:52 <Namworld>	back to 56 million demand
Apr 16 15:54:02 <Namworld>	There ya go ThickAsThieves
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Apr 16 15:54:09 <ThickAsThieves>	thank yo sir
Apr 16 15:54:19 <ThickAsThieves>	i just think the E concept is tarded
Apr 16 15:54:31 <Namworld>	Not my fault gribble does it
Apr 16 15:54:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i suppose it has real purpose in larger math
Apr 16 15:55:09 <ThickAsThieves>	but not for me :)
Apr 16 15:56:39 <pgp>	can't gribble be formatted with 000 seperator
Apr 16 15:58:37 <Namworld>	not without complaining to the right person
Apr 16 15:58:48 <pgp>	who is that?
Apr 16 15:59:05 <Bugpowder>	E is preferred
Apr 16 15:59:11 <Bugpowder>	learn math
Apr 16 15:59:31 <pgp>	lol
Apr 16 16:00:46 <mod6>	HEH
Apr 16 16:00:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i didnt see anyone fighting for the e
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Apr 16 16:02:17 <ThickAsThieves>	in that example it only obfuscates anyway
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Apr 16 16:05:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85397 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:05:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85398 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:06:42 <jcpham>	http://www.nextnewdeal.net/rortybomb/researchers-finally-replicated-reinhart-rogoff-and-there-are-serious-problems
Apr 16 16:07:26 <pgp>	another nice feature would be something like ;;depth 40% where it give ;;bids last*(1-.4) and ;;asks last*(1+.4)
Apr 16 16:07:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01299 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:07:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.013 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:07:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:07:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.014898 = 0.1192 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:08:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.014899 = 1.4899 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 16:08:30 <Bugpowder>	hmm
Apr 16 16:08:35 <Bugpowder>	interesting idea
Apr 16 16:10:16 <jurov>	;;bids 0.9
Apr 16 16:10:17 <gribble>	There are currently 722721.79 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.9 USD, worth 11548332.3198 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0095 seconds
Apr 16 16:12:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85398 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:12:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.854 = 1.708 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:12:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.85999 = 6.8799 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:12:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 16:12:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.87387 = 2.6216 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 16:13:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00069338 = 7.9739 BTC [-]
Apr 16 16:15:50 <jcpham>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2013/04/16/bitcoin-whatever-it-is-its-not-money/
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Apr 16 16:17:12 <mircea_popescu>	duh.
Apr 16 16:17:56 <mircea_popescu>	in other news, http://o.onionstatic.com/images/5/5425/original/700.hq.jpg?2506
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Apr 16 16:19:17 <Lyspooner>	Money is most optimal when it is fixed in value just as commerce is facilitated when we have fixed weights and measures. When you buy a pound of hamburger you expect to get 16 ounces of meat. An hour has 60 minutes. A mile has 5280 feet. These measurements don’t “float.”
Apr 16 16:19:42 <Lyspooner>	wait, an ounce floats, right?
Apr 16 16:19:50 <jcpham>	that's forbes staff btw
Apr 16 16:19:55 <jcpham>	not the bloggers
Apr 16 16:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	that's actually forbes.
Apr 16 16:20:01 <jcpham>	yeah.
Apr 16 16:20:08 <mircea_popescu>	Malcolm Stevenson
Apr 16 16:20:19 <Scrat>	A mile has 5280 feet < lol
Apr 16 16:20:29 <Scrat>	what a retarded measurement system
Apr 16 16:20:41 <Scrat>	using that to make a point
Apr 16 16:20:42 <jcpham>	damn your decimals!
Apr 16 16:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the usual set of ignorant/half informed nonsense people do these days
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Apr 16 16:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	im getting kind of meh'd even considering it.
Apr 16 16:21:25 <jcpham>	dawwww i like seeing these old smart people look dumb
Apr 16 16:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	"our currency collapsed against this thing therefore this thing can't be used to price hamburgers in"
Apr 16 16:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	whoop de doo. logic.
Apr 16 16:22:05 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that the dollar is insanely volatile these days has little bearing on anything other than... the dollar itself.
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Apr 16 16:23:23 <pgp>	666k 224h gox volume...
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Apr 16 16:24:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19889 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:24:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:24:52 <Lyspooner>	mircea_popescu, you do a good job of chronicling those articles or instances of great stupidity.  please keep this steve forbes article in your archives for future reference
Apr 16 16:25:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1989 = 0.5967 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:25:46 <Namworld>	lol
Apr 16 16:25:57 <Namworld>	people just want my BTC-BOND, do they?
Apr 16 16:27:20 <mircea_popescu>	im not gonna. guy's entitled to being stupid ocasionalyl, he has a name.
Apr 16 16:27:41 <Namworld>	I was recalling it because price was rising too much in my taste. Now I put it back available and people buy.
Apr 16 16:29:07 <jborkl>	looks like it is going to be approx 300w for a single, whenif they show up
Apr 16 16:29:51 <jborkl>	8800w for a minirig, even though those are not shipping
Apr 16 16:32:03 <jcpham>	8.8 kW wtf
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Apr 16 16:33:28 <Bugpowder>	warm!
Apr 16 16:33:48 <jcpham>	most US homes/places of business aren't wired for that
Apr 16 16:33:51 <jcpham>	not even remotely
Apr 16 16:34:54 <kakobrekla>	so when do they pay the 1k btc chairty bet?
Apr 16 16:35:06 <jcpham>	that can't be serious
Apr 16 16:35:10 <jcpham>	source?
Apr 16 16:36:23 <kakobrekla>	apparently he forgot to delete this one too https://forums.butterflylabs.com/article-comments/182-article-bfl-offers-1000-btc-charity-if-we-miss-our-power-targets.html
Apr 16 16:36:35 <pgp>	wow
Apr 16 16:36:47 <kakobrekla>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/123-bfl-offers-1000-btc-charity-if-they-miss-their-power-targets-comments4.html
Apr 16 16:37:11 <jcpham>	up front investment to support power usage
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Apr 16 16:37:42 <kakobrekla>	ok
Apr 16 16:37:43 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119338.0
Apr 16 16:37:45 <kakobrekla>	here it is
Apr 16 16:37:55 <kakobrekla>	not deleted
Apr 16 16:38:04 <kakobrekla>	maybe im jumpy
Apr 16 16:38:16 <jborkl>	that power draw is as correct as far as I know
Apr 16 16:38:37 <jcpham>	jborkl that's an insane number for a minirig
Apr 16 16:38:38 <jborkl>	consistent with what has been said
Apr 16 16:38:53 <jborkl>	I am not saying it is not insance
Apr 16 16:38:59 <jborkl>	insane
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Apr 16 16:39:09 <jborkl>	just relaying the news
Apr 16 16:39:19 <jcpham>	yeah i know my bad
Apr 16 16:39:26 <jcpham>	those fuckers at bfl are batshit
Apr 16 16:40:05 <jborkl>	people are going to have to deal with heat, power , proper cooling, babysitting
Apr 16 16:40:12 <jborkl>	and that is without a host
Apr 16 16:40:14 <jcpham>	it would need 7 power cords going to maxxed out terminal is a US home
Apr 16 16:40:25 <jcpham>	more likely 220v though
Apr 16 16:40:34 <jcpham>	no clue what sort of support you'd need for that
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Apr 16 16:40:47 <jcpham>	i bet i ask an electrician tomorrow though
Apr 16 16:40:52 <jborkl>	I have places for all of mine, already drawing a bunch from GPU's
Apr 16 16:41:02 <jborkl>	480v with a transformer
Apr 16 16:41:04 <pgp>	then we'll shart to hear the stories of how the bfl asics catch on fire...
Apr 16 16:41:12 <jcpham>	so 480v
Apr 16 16:41:13 <Diablo-D3>	did someone say 480v?
Apr 16 16:41:28 <jcpham>	that's new service from the electric co for most people
Apr 16 16:41:38 <Diablo-D3>	well
Apr 16 16:41:41 <Diablo-D3>	its industrial service
Apr 16 16:41:51 <jcpham>	yeah residential gtfo
Apr 16 16:42:00 <Diablo-D3>	240v is usually what comes down off the poles and then its phase split into two 120vs
Apr 16 16:42:07 <Namworld>	oh wow... the quote: "We don’t really know how this coin is created. You can’t have a functional money without a basic transparency."
Apr 16 16:42:22 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: what?
Apr 16 16:43:00 <Namworld>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2013/04/16/bitcoin-whatever-it-is-its-not-money/
Apr 16 16:43:11 <jcpham>	is terrible don't read it
Apr 16 16:43:12 <Diablo-D3>	oh fucking forbes
Apr 16 16:43:16 <Diablo-D3>	no one even listens to their shit anymore
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Apr 16 16:43:27 <jcpham>	it's steven himself Diablo-D3
Apr 16 16:43:49 <Diablo-D3>	steven forbes doesnt actually exist
Apr 16 16:43:55 <Diablo-D3>	its a persona made up by the company
Apr 16 16:43:56 <jcpham>	apparently the blockchain and mining is totally opaque
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Apr 16 16:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	lol does the 10kw include the fans ?
Apr 16 16:46:35 <jcpham>	yikes
Apr 16 16:46:39 <jcpham>	i bet it doesn't
Apr 16 16:46:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.87 = 1.74 BTC [-]
Apr 16 16:47:12 <jborkl>	lol, I bet it does not either
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Apr 16 16:47:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.87387 = 1.7477 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:47:56 <jborkl>	you would also need a pretty big ventilation to draw out that heat
Apr 16 16:48:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.87389 = 4.3695 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:48:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89997 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 16:49:11 <jcpham>	it's no good all-around
Apr 16 16:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	http://petercearle.com/2013/04/the-following-exchange/
Apr 16 16:49:43 <mircea_popescu>	i'm making friends
Apr 16 16:49:44 <jcpham>	they were selling a 1.5 kW plug it in anywhere device
Apr 16 16:49:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.89998 = 4.4999 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:49:47 <pgp>	unless you can use it to reduce you're heating bill in the winter...
Apr 16 16:49:56 <Diablo-D3>	>1.5KW device
Apr 16 16:49:58 <Diablo-D3>	on 120v?
Apr 16 16:50:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:50:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.925 = 7.4 BTC [+]
Apr 16 16:50:12 <jcpham>	i thought the minirgis came in under 1.5
Apr 16 16:50:21 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i don't know how you can get 10kW installed comercially.
Apr 16 16:50:23 <Diablo-D3>	because that might not pass federal requirements
Apr 16 16:50:29 <mircea_popescu>	i mean... i think you need your own transformer.
Apr 16 16:50:34 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: pretty much you call up the power company and ask
Apr 16 16:50:44 <jborkl>	I have my own , but I am commercial
Apr 16 16:50:49 <jborkl>	it is big
Apr 16 16:50:50 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 around here you can get 380V triphase installed just on asking
Apr 16 16:50:57 <jcpham>	well the point is the minirig was a consumer device but now it seems commercial
Apr 16 16:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	but it won't carry more than about 6kw i don't think
Apr 16 16:51:13 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I think you're missing the concept
Apr 16 16:51:17 <mircea_popescu>	on the upside it costs < 1k to have it put in
Apr 16 16:51:20 <Diablo-D3>	volts * amps = watts
Apr 16 16:51:27 <mircea_popescu>	yea ?
Apr 16 16:51:36 <Diablo-D3>	you told me volts and watts but not amps.
Apr 16 16:51:57 <Diablo-D3>	380v triphase can handle 6kw, it just depends entirely what your amperage is
Apr 16 16:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	yes well... eu residential power is 220 v and < 20 amps
Apr 16 16:52:11 <Diablo-D3>	thats per circuit, mircea_popescu
Apr 16 16:52:14 <mircea_popescu>	commercially you can get (easily) 380 volts and i think it carries about 120 amps max
Apr 16 16:52:18 <Diablo-D3>	you have 40, 60, 80, whatever amps coming into your house
Apr 16 16:52:19 <jcpham>	yeah i'm saying like home wiring can't even handle it
Apr 16 16:52:23 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 you have 20.
Apr 16 16:52:26 <jcpham>	20 amp 30 amp max
Apr 16 16:52:38 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I said into the house, as in, for all the cirucits
Apr 16 16:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 16 16:52:54 <Diablo-D3>	you have a shitty house if you only have 2 circuits
Apr 16 16:53:08 <Diablo-D3>	120v in the US is typically 15a, 18a max
Apr 16 16:53:12 <mircea_popescu>	20 amps at 220 volts is over 4kw, which is considered sufficient
Apr 16 16:53:14 <Bugpowder>	Tesla's home single charger is 240v/40A/10kW
Apr 16 16:53:25 <Bugpowder>	Their dual is 240v/80A/20kW
Apr 16 16:53:26 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: depends which one, you CAN buy superchargers for home use
Apr 16 16:53:28 <Bugpowder>	so it can be done
Apr 16 16:53:44 <jcpham>	240 works w/ the 80AMP
Apr 16 16:53:50 <Diablo-D3>	its just going to be fun talking your electric company into doing it
Apr 16 16:53:52 <jcpham>	inside wiring can't handle 80
Apr 16 16:53:58 <Diablo-D3>	yeah what jcpham said
Apr 16 16:54:21 <jcpham>	it's to much. you have to build the facility to house 8.8kW
Apr 16 16:54:30 <Bugpowder>	looks like $2000 plus installation costs
Apr 16 16:54:30 <jcpham>	right the opossite of what they initially sold
Apr 16 16:54:39 <Diablo-D3>	I have 6 or 7 120v circuits, and 6 240v 30a circuits
Apr 16 16:54:42 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham soubnds like it.
Apr 16 16:54:43 <Diablo-D3>	and this is a small apartment.
Apr 16 16:54:59 <jcpham>	you are wired sir Diablo-D3
Apr 16 16:55:14 <Diablo-D3>	I think 120v 40a actually goes into the circuit breaker box though
Apr 16 16:55:19 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 there is no way you can draw 40kw off your apt grid right now.
Apr 16 16:55:25 <Diablo-D3>	(the 240s are double 120 breakers)
Apr 16 16:55:42 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: of course not
Apr 16 16:55:46 <Diablo-D3>	it'd be fun to try though
Apr 16 16:55:49 <jcpham>	i've got 2 meters, 4 acres and 5 buildings and i think i only have one 240 drop to each meter
Apr 16 16:55:53 <mircea_popescu>	it'd be arson to try.
Apr 16 16:56:05 <mircea_popescu>	even on copper wiring, calc the heat.
Apr 16 16:56:20 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham sounds more like it.
Apr 16 16:56:37 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow, you said 360v at 120 amps?
Apr 16 16:56:50 <mircea_popescu>	europe has 220 and 380
Apr 16 16:57:00 <Bugpowder>	Seems like you can get 90A in your garage, if you pay an electrician. http://webarchive.teslamotors.com/display_data/home_connector_installation.pdf
Apr 16 16:57:04 <Diablo-D3>	you do realize thats 45.6kw right?
Apr 16 16:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	and 120 is i think nomional max. you won't get it more than you get 1mbps internet or w/e
Apr 16 16:57:11 <jcpham>	;;calc 8800\360
Apr 16 16:57:12 <gribble>	Error: unexpected character after line continuation character (<string>, line 1)
Apr 16 16:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 it also is a commercial installation.
Apr 16 16:57:16 <jcpham>	;;calc 8800/360
Apr 16 16:57:16 <gribble>	24.4444444444
Apr 16 16:57:24 <jcpham>	30 amp
Apr 16 16:57:26 <jurov>	i can't follow, where are these kilowatts announced?
Apr 16 16:57:26 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah but you were trying to put 6kw on it
Apr 16 16:57:42 <mircea_popescu>	i was discussing normal house wiring. which is about 4kw tops.
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Apr 16 16:58:00 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: btw, yes, due to what tesla is doing, you can now get higher end chargers installed
Apr 16 16:58:04 <jcpham>	4kw tops but you aren't going to be using 120v at that point
Apr 16 16:58:09 <mircea_popescu>	220!
Apr 16 16:58:13 <jcpham>	yeah
Apr 16 16:58:15 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: they'll work with your electric company to get it done for you
Apr 16 16:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	look! europe has residential 220 v / 20 amp power
Apr 16 16:58:27 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, europe is weird
Apr 16 16:58:33 <mircea_popescu>	and 380v triphase at about 100+ amps, which you have to install speciallly.
Apr 16 16:58:44 <jurov>	you just need thicker wires
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Apr 16 16:58:51 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: well, kind of
Apr 16 16:58:58 <jcpham>	i think europe requires 380 or multiple 220v drops
Apr 16 16:59:01 <Diablo-D3>	you need LESS copper as voltage goes up to maintain the same wattage
Apr 16 16:59:02 <mircea_popescu>	this is what you can do out of the box pretty much. otherwise you have to get on the list for a transform station being builrt
Apr 16 16:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	which is i think half a year lead time
Apr 16 16:59:27 <jcpham>	surely bfl does intend to ship a device drawing more than 4kW
Apr 16 16:59:29 <jcpham>	surely not
Apr 16 16:59:32 <jcpham>	that's be stupid
Apr 16 16:59:38 <jcpham>	*doesn't
Apr 16 16:59:42 <mircea_popescu>	well if they do it [retty much won't run in yurp
Apr 16 16:59:55 <Diablo-D3>	it wont run in the US either
Apr 16 17:00:00 <mircea_popescu>	or rural us, or asia, or anywhere else.
Apr 16 17:00:02 <Diablo-D3>	we dont have 240v sockets typically
Apr 16 17:00:03 <jcpham>	dunno where it runs
Apr 16 17:00:13 <Diablo-D3>	(electric driers being the exception)
Apr 16 17:00:14 <jcpham>	unless you build it
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Apr 16 17:00:22 <jborkl>	no, they said the minirig will not be shipped as is
Apr 16 17:00:29 <jurov>	such device can't ever get certified, at least not for home use
Apr 16 17:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	so basically bfl miners will be near streams.
Apr 16 17:00:31 <Diablo-D3>	why are we talking about BFL anyhow?
Apr 16 17:00:36 <Diablo-D3>	bfl will never ship
Apr 16 17:00:41 <jcpham>	hahaha
Apr 16 17:00:45 <jcpham>	2 more weeks Diablo-D3
Apr 16 17:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	what, still 2 weeks ?
Apr 16 17:00:52 <jcpham>	just 2 more weeks
Apr 16 17:00:55 <Bugpowder>	Ovens are 240
Apr 16 17:01:07 <Diablo-D3>	2 more weeks until Im proven right? again? for the 6th time?
Apr 16 17:01:24 <jcpham>	;;calc 4000/240
Apr 16 17:01:25 <gribble>	16.6666666667
Apr 16 17:01:31 <jurov>	we'll also have flying cars in 2 years. it has always been 2 years
Apr 16 17:01:35 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: they're hardwired, so are hotwater heaters and large enough air conditioning and whatever else that big
Apr 16 17:01:42 <Diablo-D3>	Bugpowder: the only exception is dryers
Apr 16 17:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder ya like a pizza oven. but that's commercial power grid
Apr 16 17:01:46 <jborkl>	that would be about like putting 30 7970's in a desktop case
Apr 16 17:02:07 <jurov>	you don't have 4kw microwaves for residential use
Apr 16 17:02:19 <jurov>	anyway
Apr 16 17:02:30 <Diablo-D3>	no, because it'd destroy food
Apr 16 17:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	actually 4kw microwave oven would be interesting
Apr 16 17:02:44 <Diablo-D3>	even 1200w is a bit high
Apr 16 17:02:59 <jcpham>	i have a 1200 and it destroys water
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Apr 16 17:03:33 <jcpham>	microwave trips breaker if i'm bein ghonest
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Apr 16 17:03:51 <Diablo-D3>	its kinda funny, ever since I went paleo I dont use my microwave much
Apr 16 17:03:53 <jurov>	destroys? as in, emits hydrogen fumes?
Apr 16 17:04:07 <mircea_popescu>	i've never used a microwave, nor do i intend to.
Apr 16 17:04:13 <mircea_popescu>	also i have them removed from anywhere i go
Apr 16 17:04:23 <jcpham>	they give you awesome cancers
Apr 16 17:04:27 <mircea_popescu>	don't frequent cafes that use them etc. i'm like the mcirowave enemy.
Apr 16 17:04:51 <guruvan>	they destroy the structure of food & water
Apr 16 17:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	water has structure ?
Apr 16 17:05:28 <guruvan>	plants fed microwaved water will wither and die
Apr 16 17:05:36 <guruvan>	molecular sturcture
Apr 16 17:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	srsly ?!
Apr 16 17:05:42 <guruvan>	yah
Apr 16 17:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard that one before.
Apr 16 17:05:50 <guruvan>	turn brown like they burned
Apr 16 17:06:03 <soypirate>	sounds like pseudo science
Apr 16 17:06:04 <jcpham>	i'm trying it
Apr 16 17:06:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp
Apr 16 17:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	snopes says not so
Apr 16 17:06:20 <guruvan>	snopes is quite full of crap
Apr 16 17:06:21 <jborkl>	microwaves split atoms,
Apr 16 17:06:24 <jborkl>	?
Apr 16 17:06:33 <guruvan>	they're regularly debunked themselves
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Apr 16 17:06:44 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl nah
Apr 16 17:06:59 <jborkl>	I know, just lo at the myth
Apr 16 17:07:01 <jborkl>	lol
Apr 16 17:07:33 <jcpham>	raytheon developed the first microwave
Apr 16 17:07:50 <LainZ>	friedcat auctionning some block erupter blades(!)
Apr 16 17:07:52 <LainZ>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178275.0
Apr 16 17:07:53 <jcpham>	certainly weaponized in every home
Apr 16 17:07:54 <soypirate>	microwaves make water molecules rotate between their natural magnetic poles really fast, that produces heat. The microwaves do not linger, nor do they travel more than four feet.
Apr 16 17:08:35 <soypirate>	i mean i'm not saying stand with your ball in front of one with the door open...
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Apr 16 17:08:45 <guruvan>	raytheon? really...crazy
Apr 16 17:08:54 <Bugpowder>	what the fuck are you guys talking about
Apr 16 17:09:00 <Bugpowder>	structure of water
Apr 16 17:09:12 <guruvan>	lol market is boring
Apr 16 17:09:20 <guruvan>	for a minute
Apr 16 17:09:26 <Bugpowder>	microwaves don't change the structure of water.
Apr 16 17:09:46 <Bugpowder>	they don't cause cancer
Apr 16 17:10:34 <Bugpowder>	they just make water vibrate due to the excitation wavelength of H20
Apr 16 17:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	Bugpowder i can see a case for where whatever container leaks whatever poison in the microwave but not otherwise.
Apr 16 17:10:41 <jcpham>	i've got cancer and i've been drinking water for years
Apr 16 17:10:58 <Bugpowder>	mircea_popescu: that is plausibe
Apr 16 17:11:04 <mircea_popescu>	not saying it's the case.
Apr 16 17:11:09 <Bugpowder>	container leaching
Apr 16 17:11:10 <Bugpowder>	sure
Apr 16 17:11:17 <Bugpowder>	people are scared of that with BPA
Apr 16 17:11:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00069338 = 4.299 BTC [-]
Apr 16 17:11:21 <Bugpowder>	and microwaves
Apr 16 17:11:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3938 @ 0.00068912 = 2.7138 BTC [-]
Apr 16 17:11:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00068911 = 1.3782 BTC [-]
Apr 16 17:11:27 <Bugpowder>	possibly an issue for kids
Apr 16 17:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	im kinda meh with teflon for the same reason.
Apr 16 17:11:29 <guruvan>	that'll cause cancer without the microwave for that matter
Apr 16 17:11:43 <mircea_popescu>	i mean it's a great fucking thing but you jhave to always be carefgul not get it too hot in the end why even bother
Apr 16 17:12:12 <Bugpowder>	Le Cruset enameled cast iron
Apr 16 17:12:22 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't trust the enamel.
Apr 16 17:12:23 <Bugpowder>	is the tites
Apr 16 17:12:26 <soypirate>	Bugpowder: there you go
Apr 16 17:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	you can just fat cure a proper iron pot.
Apr 16 17:12:40 <guruvan>	much better idea IMO
Apr 16 17:13:36 <Bugpowder>	they are pretty though
Apr 16 17:13:41 <Bugpowder>	and easier to clean
Apr 16 17:13:49 <Bugpowder>	but yes I have a standard Lodge too
Apr 16 17:14:02 <mircea_popescu>	cast iron pots are great for domestic arguments too
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Apr 16 17:15:04 <guruvan>	lol I thought you were good at risk management mircea_popescu
Apr 16 17:15:16 <mircea_popescu>	famous last words.
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Apr 16 17:20:37 <jborkl>	well, that auction quickly got out of control
Apr 16 17:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00068517 = 2.4324 BTC [-]
Apr 16 17:21:26 <dub>	still way too cheap
Apr 16 17:21:36 <jborkl>	this is only a few minutes into it
Apr 16 17:21:58 <jborkl>	and already 10gh for $1750
Apr 16 17:22:36 <mircea_popescu>	google is useless. i search for Claire Dupray nue, it gives me ashley dupre topless.
Apr 16 17:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck is ashely dupre even
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Apr 16 17:23:30 <Bugpowder>	fucked spitzer
Apr 16 17:23:50 <Bugpowder>	she basically kept all the US bankers out of prison
Apr 16 17:23:56 <mircea_popescu>	a
Apr 16 17:23:59 <dub>	mircea_popescu: lady looks like a dude
Apr 16 17:24:14 <mircea_popescu>	i recall now, the kristen girl
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Apr 16 17:31:15 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 16 17:31:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.20000, Best ask: 67.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 67.80000, 24 hour volume: 651382.74660769, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 84.50000, 24 hour vwap: 67.02669
Apr 16 17:31:22 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 16 17:31:22 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 16 17:31:56 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 16 17:31:56 <gribble>	expecting to test 70 resistance | targets if 70 broken: 80, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 19:35 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 hour, 56 minutes, and 54 seconds ago
Apr 16 17:32:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19899 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 17:34:46 <uglux>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178275.0
Apr 16 17:34:48 <uglux>	nice
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Apr 16 17:41:18 <Namworld>	Anyone else able/ready to sell some PUTs?
Apr 16 17:41:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00068517 = 1.4046 BTC [-]
Apr 16 17:41:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00068457 = 0.6161 BTC [-]
Apr 16 17:41:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00068433 = 7.2881 BTC [-]
Apr 16 17:48:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.422 BTC [-]
Apr 16 17:48:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.420011 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 17:51:02 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: deposits pls
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Apr 16 17:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00380876 = 6.2845 BTC [+]
Apr 16 17:59:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 671 @ 0.01 = 6.71 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 18:02:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 764 @ 0.00068668 = 0.5246 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 18:02:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8608 BTC [-]
Apr 16 18:03:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.86 = 6.88 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 18:04:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85101 BTC [-]
Apr 16 18:04:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.851 = 3.404 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 18:07:53 <Namworld>	Some people are buying BTC-BOND
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Apr 16 18:07:57 <Namworld>	a whole lot
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Apr 16 18:09:38 <Namworld>	I didn't know there was such a high demand
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Apr 16 18:09:55 <Diablo-D3>	man I have such a headache
Apr 16 18:10:05 <Namworld>	Hmm, why?
Apr 16 18:10:18 <Namworld>	Usually, me it's because I spent too much time watching the market
Apr 16 18:10:27 <Namworld>	Instead of sleeping
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Apr 16 18:11:20 <Diablo-D3>	hungry and food is still cooking
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Apr 16 18:23:57 <Chilca>	Is satoshidice.com down?
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Apr 16 18:24:39 <guruvan>	;;isitdown satoshidice.com
Apr 16 18:24:44 <gribble>	satoshidice.com is down
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Apr 16 18:24:52 <Namworld>	It loads here
Apr 16 18:25:10 <guruvan>	someone suggested DDoS a little bit ago - dunno tho
Apr 16 18:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	deposits flushed.
Apr 16 18:25:36 <Namworld>	If it's DDoS, maybe intermittent
Apr 16 18:26:13 <Chilca>	from my office is not loading
Apr 16 18:26:18 <guruvan>	or not successful
Apr 16 18:26:41 <deadweasel>	works for me
Apr 16 18:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.48 = 9.6 BTC [-]
Apr 16 18:30:37 <kakobrekla>	got an email saying "your Bitcoin withdrawal address: 98f2bd4e-bfd4-3648-bec5..."
Apr 16 18:30:38 <Chilca>	it's interesting. from my office. satoshidice.com is not working but 94.142.154.208 loads perfectly
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Apr 16 18:36:35 <KRS1>	I'd like to take this time and pause for a moment for the allmighty
Apr 16 18:36:35 <KRS1>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3uipTO-4A
Apr 16 18:37:25 *	splnkr was expecting some BDP 
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Apr 16 18:38:25 <KRS1>	heh i see you know a thing or two about music
Apr 16 18:39:57 <jurov>	from here sdice loads, but the tables not
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Apr 16 18:59:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00069444 = 8.9583 BTC [+]
Apr 16 19:00:37 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmADHKt3OEk
Apr 16 19:01:14 <jurov>	this is moar romantic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtqflgdzNEM
Apr 16 19:01:31 <jurov>	aka wild boar porn :P
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Apr 16 19:07:13 <dub>	wow
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Apr 16 19:16:25 <deadweasel>	how romantic
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Apr 16 19:26:51 <jcpham>	https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/12779-goat
Apr 16 19:26:59 <jcpham>	alone? feeling romantic?
Apr 16 19:27:30 <jcpham>	shy?
Apr 16 19:27:34 <jcpham>	wear this https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/24034-very-unique-goat-skull
Apr 16 19:30:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00069 BTC [-]
Apr 16 19:30:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.922 BTC [+]
Apr 16 19:31:11 <KRS1>	funny how nobody talking, pasting links about what they gonna shop for next
Apr 16 19:31:28 <KRS1>	I see one enthusiastic fellow wants some livestock though.
Apr 16 19:31:30 <jurov>	27 years old goat? not sure if serious... or it's our Chaang?
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Apr 16 19:33:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5888 @ 0.00070243 = 4.1359 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 19:36:43 <pgp>	better than a lawn mower
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Apr 16 19:38:30 <mircea_popescu>	i've yet to step in lawnmower shit.
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Apr 16 20:16:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 20:40:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.01 = 0.13 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 20:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.0007 = 3.01 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 21:01:43 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 16 21:01:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.50000, Best ask: 63.98999, Bid-ask spread: 0.48999, Last trade: 63.50000, 24 hour volume: 567285.81103329, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 82.39000, 24 hour vwap: 64.95732
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Apr 16 21:08:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.92 = 4.6 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 21:20:03 <pgp>	real quiet in here...
Apr 16 21:20:49 <orkaa>	i should go to sleep
Apr 16 21:25:10 <pgp>	what is it like 2AM for you?
Apr 16 21:26:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 16 21:26:37 <orkaa>	pgp, 3:26
Apr 16 21:27:17 <orkaa>	i've got a gas company coming 8am to check on some pipes
Apr 16 21:27:24 <orkaa>	this will suck. :))
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Apr 16 21:29:14 <orkaa>	i'm also buying a domain that is already taken
Apr 16 21:29:45 <kakobrekla>	ask mp how much domains are worth
Apr 16 21:29:48 <kakobrekla>	approx zero
Apr 16 21:30:42 <orkaa>	that's about as much i'm willing to pay
Apr 16 21:31:17 <kakobrekla>	im only telling you to ask him cause im out of time and too lazy argue on something
Apr 16 21:31:38 <kakobrekla>	else i agree.
Apr 16 21:32:45 <orkaa>	yeah well..
Apr 16 21:32:54 <orkaa>	i have to think of a different name for this stuff..
Apr 16 21:33:36 <pgp>	lol
Apr 16 21:34:00 <pgp>	i agree that url's are overrated
Apr 16 21:34:04 <kakobrekla>	what were the main 3 categories again?
Apr 16 21:34:09 <kakobrekla>	work, porn and something else
Apr 16 21:34:14 <Bugpowder>	all the two syllable combos, even nonsensical ones are taken
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Apr 16 21:34:29 <orkaa>	kakobrekla, no, i've decided i'm not going that way
Apr 16 21:34:33 <kakobrekla>	eh
Apr 16 21:34:37 <pgp>	digitl squatters
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Apr 16 21:35:39 <pgp>	watching paint dry...
Apr 16 21:36:30 <Bugpowder>	come over to bitcoin-analysis
Apr 16 21:37:27 <kakobrekla>	what, assets not good enought for ya?
Apr 16 21:37:35 <kakobrekla>	fickun spell
Apr 16 21:37:37 <Bugpowder>	there is just more action there right now
Apr 16 21:37:49 <Bugpowder>	I hold this channel in higher esteem
Apr 16 21:37:55 <Bugpowder>	but I'm flirting with a new girl
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Apr 16 21:38:22 <kakobrekla>	well
Apr 16 21:38:27 <kakobrekla>	dont forget to summarize here
Apr 16 21:38:40 <Bugpowder>	blah blah its going up!  its going down!
Apr 16 21:38:58 <Bugpowder>	I may have overextended my position
Apr 16 21:39:10 <Bugpowder>	too many beers
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Apr 16 21:40:14 <Bugpowder>	Also this classic is getting my blood pressure up
Apr 16 21:40:15 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLLsTWkuH9U
Apr 16 21:44:16 <kakobrekla>	like some 20 year old car racing game
Apr 16 21:45:01 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 16 21:45:08 <Bugpowder>	18 years ol
Apr 16 21:45:09 <Bugpowder>	old
Apr 16 21:45:21 <Bugpowder>	i got more where that comes from
Apr 16 21:46:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.92 = 4.6 BTC [-]
Apr 16 21:46:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.922 = 2.766 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 21:57:16 <mod6>	rally!
Apr 16 22:01:34 <Ukto>	holy crap
Apr 16 22:03:58 <mod6>	;;bids 70
Apr 16 22:04:00 <gribble>	There are currently 13282.475 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 930908.264245 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0036 seconds
Apr 16 22:07:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [-]
Apr 16 22:07:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.88 = 3.52 BTC [-]
Apr 16 22:11:27 <ThickAsThieves>	wf is this huse floor
Apr 16 22:11:29 <ThickAsThieves>	huge
Apr 16 22:11:51 <ThickAsThieves>	14k btc
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Apr 16 22:14:06 <ThickAsThieves>	bunch of random guessing in bitcoin-anal it seems
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Apr 16 22:16:26 <mod6>	hah -anal
Apr 16 22:17:19 <Bugpowder>	possibly 1 person faking being 2
Apr 16 22:17:24 <Bugpowder>	cause they came on similar time
Apr 16 22:17:28 <Bugpowder>	and are not chasing
Apr 16 22:23:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.9575 = 1.915 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:24:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9575 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:24:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.422 = 3.798 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:24:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.9575 = 2.8725 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:25:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.958 = 9.58 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:28:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9599 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:28:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.96 = 9.6 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:29:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 41 @ 0.01 = 0.41 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:30:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 42 @ 0.968999 = 40.698 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:31:04 <ThickAsThieves>	something about the chatter in bitcoin-anal is making me cringe
Apr 16 22:31:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.969999 = 21.34 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:32:09 <ThickAsThieves>	AM shares going stupid high, AM auctioning boards at stupid high prices, stupid high floor on gox
Apr 16 22:33:09 <dub>	welcome to bitcoin
Apr 16 22:34:02 <Bugpowder>	WELCOME
Apr 16 22:34:05 <Bugpowder>	STEP RIGHT UP
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Apr 16 22:41:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003812 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:41:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 284 @ 0.003811 = 1.0823 BTC [-]
Apr 16 22:42:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00381 = 0.0381 BTC [-]
Apr 16 22:42:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00377 = 0.0189 BTC [-]
Apr 16 22:42:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.00371 = 0.742 BTC [-]
Apr 16 22:45:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 87 @ 0.01 = 0.87 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:46:16 <Namworld>	People loan me a lot of BTC
Apr 16 22:48:43 <kakobrekla>	75 again and again and again
Apr 16 22:48:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.98 = 4.9 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 22:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.51499989 = 2.06 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:51:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.5149999 = 1.545 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:51:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.51799 = 2.59 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:51:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.519 = 4.152 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 22:53:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.999999 BTC [+]
Apr 16 22:53:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1 = 9 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 22:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.099999 BTC [-]
Apr 16 22:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 19 @ 1.1 = 20.9 BTC [+]
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Apr 16 22:57:44 <Bugpowder>	sweet just made 9k
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Apr 16 22:59:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.965 BTC [-]
Apr 16 23:00:12 <Namworld>	trading on that large upswing from the big wall somebody put up?
Apr 16 23:03:09 <Bugpowder>	actually before it
Apr 16 23:03:27 <Bugpowder>	I also traded on that wall but only made 1k
Apr 16 23:04:10 <Bugpowder>	I bought 2k BTC at 64-65 when it was bottoming and it triggered a rise
Apr 16 23:04:24 <Bugpowder>	that generated nice followthru
Apr 16 23:04:53 <Bugpowder>	though I traded with myself hundreds of coins due to fucking up my order cancellations :->
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Apr 16 23:13:44 <BitHub>	heh talking about bitcoin companies, realised be better in this room
Apr 16 23:14:15 <BitHub>	anyone have a list of all the dodgy scammy companies this year so far? ie ziggap, bakewell
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Apr 16 23:15:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.965 = 9.65 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 23:15:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.966 = 28.98 BTC [+]
Apr 16 23:15:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.96 = 11.52 BTC [-]
Apr 16 23:16:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.96 = 7.68 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 23:18:07 <danieldaniel>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178512.0
Apr 16 23:18:08 <danieldaniel>	gogogo
Apr 16 23:20:46 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 16 23:20:50 <ThickAsThieves>	gl with that
Apr 16 23:20:55 <BitHub>	heh
Apr 16 23:22:50 <danieldaniel>	I said gogogo
Apr 16 23:22:54 <danieldaniel>	Why isn't anyone going :(
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Apr 16 23:33:13 <Bugpowder>	cause its a zerooooo
Apr 16 23:34:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.0007 = 3.22 BTC [-]
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Apr 16 23:39:00 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 14000
Apr 16 23:39:00 <gribble>	A market order to sell 14000 bitcoins right now would net 988111.8376 USD and would take the last price down to 70.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 70.5794 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 114.7266 seconds
Apr 16 23:39:19 <Bugpowder>	later
Apr 16 23:39:25 <ThickAsThieves>	later
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Apr 16 23:44:17 <danieldaniel>	for reals tho
Apr 16 23:44:19 <danieldaniel>	buy my debt
Apr 16 23:44:41 <BitHub>	that's isn't pyramiddy at all
Apr 16 23:44:49 <danieldaniel>	I guarantee*** you that you'll be paid back
Apr 16 23:44:51 <danieldaniel>	***probably
Apr 16 23:44:55 <danieldaniel>	***maybe
Apr 16 23:45:06 <danieldaniel>	***probably not :(
Apr 16 23:45:21 <BitHub>	time to cut your losses
Apr 16 23:45:35 <BitHub>	don't lose your parents money
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Apr 16 23:53:09 <danieldaniel>	BitHub: It was my money
Apr 16 23:53:18 <danieldaniel>	and I made the loan when btc was like $10
Apr 16 23:53:19 <danieldaniel>	or $20
Apr 16 23:53:26 <danieldaniel>	or $30
Apr 16 23:53:27 <BitHub>	:/
Apr 16 23:53:39 <BitHub>	becareful
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Apr 17 00:05:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 00:07:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+]
Apr 17 00:12:46 <KRS1>	lol bithub
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Apr 17 00:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 10 @ 1.1 = 11 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 00:26:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 00:31:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
Apr 17 00:31:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+]
Apr 17 00:32:33 <dub>	50btc for 10gh wat
Apr 17 00:33:00 <dub>	;;gen 10000
Apr 17 00:33:01 <gribble>	Error: "gen" is not a valid command.
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Apr 17 00:34:26 <thestringpuller>	;;generate
Apr 17 00:34:27 <gribble>	Error: "generate" is not a valid command.
Apr 17 00:34:31 <thestringpuller>	;;help g
Apr 17 00:34:32 <gribble>	Error: There is no command "g".
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Apr 17 00:40:09 <ll>	;;genrate 10000
Apr 17 00:40:10 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 7672999.92016, is 0.655423591377 BTC per day and 0.0273093163074 BTC per hour.
Apr 17 00:40:28 <ll>	;;bc,stats
Apr 17 00:40:31 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231752 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 87 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 12 hours, 34 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8976274.20062 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.9852
Apr 17 00:40:49 <thestringpuller>	does anyone have gigahashes for sell?
Apr 17 00:40:52 <ll>	;;genrate 10000 8976274
Apr 17 00:40:52 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8976274.0, is 0.560261993374 BTC per day and 0.0233442497239 BTC per hour.
Apr 17 00:41:25 <thestringpuller>	Dub
Apr 17 00:41:30 <thestringpuller>	Dub Dub
Apr 17 00:41:39 <thestringpuller>	dub dub
Apr 17 00:42:09 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 17 00:42:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.48000, Best ask: 72.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 72.50000, 24 hour volume: 475259.28335307, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 82.39000, 24 hour vwap: 65.00832
Apr 17 00:42:15 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 17 00:42:16 <gribble>	trend is down, resistance 73, 80-81| buy targets: 60.5, 55.5 | 53 danger zone (potential panic or bounce) | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 2:10 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 32 minutes, and 14 seconds ago
Apr 17 00:44:17 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 17 00:44:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.40001, Best ask: 72.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 72.45000, 24 hour volume: 474952.76466576, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 82.39000, 24 hour vwap: 65.01112
Apr 17 00:44:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.00001 BTC [+]
Apr 17 00:44:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 01:07:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08401 BTC [+]
Apr 17 01:07:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.084 BTC [-]
Apr 17 01:07:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.06 BTC [-]
Apr 17 01:13:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [+]
Apr 17 01:13:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.43 = 2.58 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 01:33:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 01:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.18 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 01:34:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08001 BTC [+]
Apr 17 01:34:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.08 = 10.8 BTC [-]
Apr 17 01:34:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.06 = 3.18 BTC [-]
Apr 17 01:34:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1 = 15 BTC [-]
Apr 17 01:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.39999994 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Apr 17 01:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.518 = 1.036 BTC [-]
Apr 17 01:36:05 <BitHub>	nanotube bot?
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Apr 17 01:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.18 BTC [+]
Apr 17 01:43:32 <BitHub>	hey kakobrekla r u around?
Apr 17 01:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.1 = 3.3 BTC [-]
Apr 17 01:44:30 <BitHub>	is there a way i can get the assbot to send me these asset buys and sales via pm or something
Apr 17 01:44:48 <BitHub>	for a tip
Apr 17 01:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.056 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 01:47:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 23 @ 0.43 = 9.89 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 02:05:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19899 BTC [+]
Apr 17 02:06:57 <KRS1>	;;ticker
Apr 17 02:06:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.01001, Best ask: 74.06264, Bid-ask spread: 0.05263, Last trade: 74.06265, 24 hour volume: 437682.69169727, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 82.39000, 24 hour vwap: 65.12336
Apr 17 02:15:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00069 BTC [-]
Apr 17 02:16:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 80 @ 0.000697 = 0.0558 BTC [+]
Apr 17 02:16:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.43 = 3.44 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 02:19:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.43 = 1.29 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 02:27:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000698 = 0.007 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 02:34:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 30 @ 0.01 = 0.3 BTC [+]
Apr 17 02:36:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50 @ 0.00070243 = 0.0351 BTC [+]
Apr 17 02:36:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00071014 = 0.7101 BTC [+]
Apr 17 02:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.000715 = 3.3605 BTC [+]
Apr 17 02:37:53 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 17 02:37:54 <gribble>	trend is down, resistance 73, 80-81| buy targets: 60.5, 55.5 | 53 danger zone (potential panic or bounce) | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 2:10 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 4 hours, 27 minutes, and 52 seconds ago
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Apr 17 02:53:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.12 = 3.36 BTC [+]
Apr 17 02:53:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.1 = 3.3 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 03:00:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
Apr 17 03:02:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 03:07:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
Apr 17 03:07:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
Apr 17 03:07:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.25 = 10 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 03:09:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
Apr 17 03:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.518 = 1.036 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 03:15:59 <dub>	jebus am
Apr 17 03:16:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 1 = 16 BTC [-]
Apr 17 03:16:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 24 @ 1 = 24 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 03:20:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1 = 6 BTC [-]
Apr 17 03:21:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 03:28:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.000715 = 5.577 BTC [+]
Apr 17 03:28:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4923 @ 0.00071542 = 3.522 BTC [+]
Apr 17 03:28:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4687 @ 0.00071794 = 3.365 BTC [+]
Apr 17 03:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1290 @ 0.00072 = 0.9288 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 03:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.39999994 = 0.8 BTC [+]
Apr 17 03:34:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.199 = 0.995 BTC [+]
Apr 17 03:43:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.01489 = 1.489 BTC [-]
Apr 17 03:43:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0149 = 1.49 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 03:45:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01013 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 03:57:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 04:07:12 <taub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SwNLX9eHPY
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Apr 17 04:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.48 = 1.92 BTC [-]
Apr 17 04:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.36600003 = 1.098 BTC [-]
Apr 17 04:20:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1 = 13 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 04:24:25 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 17 04:24:25 <gribble>	trend is down, resistance 73, 80-81| buy targets: 60.5, 55.5 | 53 danger zone (potential panic or bounce) | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 2:10 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 6 hours, 14 minutes, and 23 seconds ago
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Apr 17 04:37:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.2 = 10.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 04:47:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 04:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.84999999 BTC [-]
Apr 17 04:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 04:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.899987 = 7.5999 BTC [+]
Apr 17 04:56:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-]
Apr 17 04:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.899988 = 7.6 BTC [+]
Apr 17 04:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.9 = 19 BTC [+]
Apr 17 05:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.519 = 2.595 BTC [+]
Apr 17 05:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.5199999 = 2.6 BTC [+]
Apr 17 05:02:43 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 17 05:02:46 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231783 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 56 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 8 hours, 14 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8974808.79413 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.9661
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Apr 17 05:06:10 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 17 05:06:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.60002, Best ask: 83.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39998, Last trade: 83.00000, 24 hour volume: 347244.02666927, 24 hour low: 53.61111, 24 hour high: 83.00000, 24 hour vwap: 69.15985
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Apr 17 05:06:13 <kakobrekla>	:(
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Apr 17 05:06:25 <bgupta>	why :(
Apr 17 05:06:34 <kakobrekla>	wrong direction
Apr 17 05:06:43 <kakobrekla>	i want cheapos
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Apr 17 05:07:11 <jurov>	shh... wait till opex
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Apr 17 05:11:25 <bgupta>	jurov where is max pain?
Apr 17 05:13:26 <jurov>	bgupta where? for bonds?
Apr 17 05:13:34 <bgupta>	options?
Apr 17 05:13:44 <bgupta>	I guess yeah
Apr 17 05:13:54 <bgupta>	where do they make the most moeny
Apr 17 05:13:58 <bgupta>	at opex
Apr 17 05:14:16 <bgupta>	calculating open interest
Apr 17 05:14:18 <bgupta>	which I guess isn't public?
Apr 17 05:14:23 <bgupta>	so nvm
Apr 17 05:14:29 <jurov>	:)
Apr 17 05:14:47 <bgupta>	that's wierd about these pseudo-securities
Apr 17 05:15:04 <jurov>	just my guess, if price goes eve further down, bondholders would get raped both ways
Apr 17 05:15:27 <bgupta>	yeah with the pileonto puts
Apr 17 05:17:43 <bgupta>	wtf.. bids are at 81
Apr 17 05:17:50 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 17 05:17:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 81.00000, Best ask: 81.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45000, Last trade: 81.00000, 24 hour volume: 346242.46273370, 24 hour low: 53.61111, 24 hour high: 83.00000, 24 hour vwap: 69.33018
Apr 17 05:18:06 <bgupta>	;;goxlag
Apr 17 05:18:07 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.057234 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00211868509862 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 17 05:18:34 <bgupta>	;;ticker
Apr 17 05:18:36 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 81.45000, Best ask: 81.45009, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 81.45009, 24 hour volume: 346254.35312655, 24 hour low: 53.61111, 24 hour high: 83.00000, 24 hour vwap: 69.34395
Apr 17 05:19:43 <tormenta>	Saturn, The lord of the rings, also known as EL in occult circles, why should I mess with him?
Apr 17 05:19:50 <bgupta>	all this sidelined USD coming back into play, or headfake? Looks like it's being met with a ton of selling in any case.
Apr 17 05:20:50 <bgupta>	new money, smart money or impatient money?
Apr 17 05:22:03 <bgupta>	or bots gone wild
Apr 17 05:26:35 <bgupta>	so in theory at least there should be a ton of USD sitting on mtgox waiting for the right time to jump back in.. my sense is there will be better times. However, it's fun to watch
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Apr 17 05:30:52 <bgupta>	;;next
Apr 17 05:30:53 <gribble>	trend is down, resistance 73, 80-81| buy targets: 60.5, 55.5 | 53 danger zone (potential panic or bounce) | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 2:10 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 7 hours, 20 minutes, and 51 seconds ago
Apr 17 05:31:05 <bgupta>	heh
Apr 17 05:31:27 <OneFixt>	;;next
Apr 17 05:31:28 <gribble>	resistance at 84, potential drop to next 72 | if rally, sell-zones 94-95, 100-102, 110-113 | low buy targets: 60.5, 55.5 | 53 danger zone (potential panic or bounce) | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 9:31 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 26 seconds ago
Apr 17 05:31:31 <OneFixt>	updated some upside targets
Apr 17 05:32:57 <jurov>	OneFixt: you do use that analysis for trading yourself?
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Apr 17 05:35:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
Apr 17 05:36:20 <bgupta>	Whatthe ^^
Apr 17 05:36:24 <OneFixt>	jurov: yes
Apr 17 05:36:36 <OneFixt>	it's either 72 or 96 from here
Apr 17 05:36:44 <OneFixt>	depending on which way we go
Apr 17 05:36:53 <OneFixt>	if you have 50/50 cash/fiat, you can profit both ways
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Apr 17 05:37:16 <jurov>	and when?
Apr 17 05:37:27 <OneFixt>	it'll move soon
Apr 17 05:37:58 <jurov>	what if i have 110/-10 cash/fiat?
Apr 17 05:38:11 <OneFixt>	110%? =)
Apr 17 05:38:22 <OneFixt>	err
Apr 17 05:38:25 <OneFixt>	bitcoin/fiat
Apr 17 05:38:25 <OneFixt>	sorry
Apr 17 05:38:53 <OneFixt>	the ;;next command is something we use in #bitcoin-analysis, it just gets called up elsewhere sometimes
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Apr 17 05:41:35 <jurov>	yes bitcoin/fiat i understood you correctly
Apr 17 05:41:52 <tormenta>	;;next
Apr 17 05:41:52 <gribble>	resistance at 84, potential drop to 72 | if rally, sell-zones 94-95, 100-102, 110-113 | low buy targets: 60.5, 55.5 | 53 danger zone (potential panic or bounce) | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 9:31 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 10 minutes and 50 seconds ago
Apr 17 05:42:06 <bgupta>	jurov that mean you are all in btc and have fiat debt?
Apr 17 05:42:30 <bgupta>	(not sure hwat to make of the neg no
Apr 17 05:42:49 <jurov>	yes. not anything unbearable fiat-site but still.
Apr 17 05:42:58 <jurov>	*fiat-side
Apr 17 05:43:39 <jurov>	actually planned to close that "position" but bubble popped.. so have to wait more
Apr 17 05:43:46 <bgupta>	well I guess if there are a bunch of people using the ;;next command.. once it starts to move it's a dogpile
Apr 17 05:46:01 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Apr 17 05:46:04 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231789 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 50 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 7 hours, 16 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8978326.57385 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.01195
Apr 17 05:49:57 <OneFixt>	there
Apr 17 05:50:01 <OneFixt>	that's what i meant by bearish
Apr 17 05:50:25 *	OneFixt goes back to #bitcoin-analysis
Apr 17 05:50:35 <OneFixt>	feel free to join us there if you guys are interested in realtime updates
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Apr 17 05:56:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8492 @ 0.00072 = 6.1142 BTC [+]
Apr 17 05:57:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.17 BTC [-]
Apr 17 05:59:40 <bgupta>	so thin
Apr 17 05:59:52 <bgupta>	76-87
Apr 17 06:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36600003 BTC [-]
Apr 17 06:09:01 <Scrat>	;;ticker --vol
Apr 17 06:09:02 <gribble>	344745.87161727
Apr 17 06:11:04 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 06:11:04 <gribble>	There are currently 57721266 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 15851572.5845 USD in total. | Data vintage: 112.9287 seconds
Apr 17 06:12:24 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 17 06:12:25 <gribble>	resistance at 84, potential drop to 72 | if rally, sell-zones 94-95, 100-102, 110-113 | low buy targets: 60.5, 55.5 | 53 danger zone (potential panic or bounce) | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 9:31 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 41 minutes and 23 seconds ago
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Apr 17 06:15:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.000698 = 0.0063 BTC [+]
Apr 17 06:20:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 06:22:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 06:25:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
Apr 17 06:25:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.38 BTC [+]
Apr 17 06:26:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.388 = 13.88 BTC [+]
Apr 17 06:27:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3889 BTC [+]
Apr 17 06:27:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.389 BTC [+]
Apr 17 06:27:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.39 = 13.9 BTC [+]
Apr 17 06:28:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.45 = 2.9 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 06:39:55 <dub>	;;stats
Apr 17 06:39:56 <gribble>	I have 17 registered users with 22 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
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Apr 17 06:40:01 <dub>	;;bc,stats
Apr 17 06:40:05 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231795 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 44 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 hours, 26 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8980233.18953 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.0368
Apr 17 06:40:20 <dub>	;;diffchange
Apr 17 06:40:22 <gribble>	Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 17.0368 % based on data since last change | 18.06189 % based on data for last three days
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Apr 17 06:45:31 <KRS1>	damnit gribble
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Apr 17 06:52:24 <pgp>	an opinions on where we go from here?
Apr 17 06:53:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.45 = 10.15 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 06:57:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.48 = 14.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 07:08:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.59 = 7.95 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 07:09:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.59 BTC [+]
Apr 17 07:10:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-]
Apr 17 07:10:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.33 BTC [-]
Apr 17 07:10:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.32 = 2.64 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 07:17:48 <deadweas1l>	;;next
Apr 17 07:17:48 <gribble>	support: 82, 77| sell targets 95-96, 100-102, 110-113 | low buy targets: 60.5, 55.5 | 53 danger zone (potential panic or bounce) | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 11:11 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 6 minutes and 46 seconds ago
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Apr 17 07:32:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.55 BTC [+]
Apr 17 07:32:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.59 = 11.13 BTC [+]
Apr 17 07:37:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 07:40:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.6 = 8 BTC [+]
Apr 17 07:41:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.6 = 16 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 07:43:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.64027 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 07:50:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6404 BTC [+]
Apr 17 07:51:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.640789 = 13.1263 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 07:51:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.64079 = 14.7671 BTC [+]
Apr 17 07:53:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.73 = 8.65 BTC [+]
Apr 17 07:55:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.749999 = 43.75 BTC [+]
Apr 17 07:56:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.631 BTC [-]
Apr 17 07:56:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.75 = 7 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 07:58:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.74 = 8.7 BTC [-]
Apr 17 08:00:20 <TradeFortress>	ASICMINER group buy, PM for details.
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Apr 17 08:06:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.631 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 08:25:09 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 08:25:10 <gribble>	There are currently 57711323 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 16429276.6731 USD in total. | Data vintage: 100.0020 seconds
Apr 17 08:25:23 <altoz>	;;asks 99999999
Apr 17 08:25:24 <gribble>	There are currently 132612.93 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 400607928.061 USD in total. | Data vintage: 113.8311 seconds
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Apr 17 08:27:21 <bitesak>	;;asks 265
Apr 17 08:27:21 <gribble>	There are currently 106155.39 bitcoins offered at or under 265.0 USD, worth 15621132.7681 USD in total. | Data vintage: 58.8139 seconds
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Apr 17 08:33:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.69 BTC [+]
Apr 17 08:37:00 <Bugpowder>	jesus
Apr 17 08:37:50 <Scrat>	saves?
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Apr 17 08:39:03 <wao>	jesus saves twice
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Apr 17 08:40:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.69 = 3.38 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 08:41:54 <ThickAsThieves>	soooo why ias AM worth 1.69 now?
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Apr 17 08:45:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.65 = 3.3 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 08:50:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.65 = 8.25 BTC [-]
Apr 17 08:50:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.631 = 13.048 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 09:16:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000698 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
Apr 17 09:16:32 <deadweasel>	good Q ThickAsThieves
Apr 17 09:16:41 <deadweasel>	i'm curious too
Apr 17 09:16:52 <Scrat>	sup with the rally
Apr 17 09:16:55 <Scrat>	;;ticker --last
Apr 17 09:16:56 <gribble>	88.50000
Apr 17 09:17:52 <ThickAsThieves>	is it possible for burnside to somehow churn shares to raide price?
Apr 17 09:18:01 <ThickAsThieves>	its all happening on his exchange
Apr 17 09:18:14 <ThickAsThieves>	only upward movement on BF is in response to BTCT
Apr 17 09:18:20 <ThickAsThieves>	and very behind
Apr 17 09:18:37 <ThickAsThieves>	raide=raise
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Apr 17 09:20:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.68999 = 3.38 BTC [+]
Apr 17 09:21:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00171 BTC [-]
Apr 17 09:21:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.68999 BTC [+]
Apr 17 09:21:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 4 @ 0.0017 = 0.0068 BTC [-]
Apr 17 09:21:37 <ThickAsThieves>	raiding price at BTCT would also be incentive for more people to move their shares there
Apr 17 09:21:41 <ThickAsThieves>	raising
Apr 17 09:21:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticke
Apr 17 09:21:51 <gribble>	Error: "ticke" is not a valid command.
Apr 17 09:21:54 <ThickAsThieves>	r;;ticker
Apr 17 09:21:57 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 17 09:21:57 <leotreasure>	i gave a talk on bitcoin last night in sydney australia to a bunch of sys admins and other interested parties some ppl from banks were there
Apr 17 09:22:04 <ThickAsThieves>	a full night of sleep hasnt helped i guess
Apr 17 09:22:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 5 @ 0.00161 = 0.0081 BTC [-]
Apr 17 09:22:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 17 09:22:07 <leotreasure>	and a regulator
Apr 17 09:22:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.99000, Best ask: 90.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 90.00000, 24 hour volume: 335112.02981938, 24 hour low: 59.39999, 24 hour high: 90.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.24054
Apr 17 09:22:55 <ThickAsThieves>	was everyone swept away?
Apr 17 09:23:02 <leotreasure>	naturally
Apr 17 09:23:06 <Scrat>	;;goxlag
Apr 17 09:23:06 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 51.555822 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.10331729004 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 17 09:23:22 <leotreasure>	i played them some of my music too lol
Apr 17 09:23:35 <leotreasure>	this one http://soundcloud.com/djleo/ive-had-it
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Apr 17 09:24:12 <leotreasure>	and for anyone who hasn't seen this video - it's awesome promotional material for bitcoin
Apr 17 09:24:23 <leotreasure>	http://devour.com/video/bitcoin-explained/
Apr 17 09:26:26 <Scrat>	never seen that before
Apr 17 09:26:28 <Scrat>	fucking awesome
Apr 17 09:27:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00165 BTC [+]
Apr 17 09:27:26 <ThickAsThieves>	cryptographics?
Apr 17 09:27:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00162 BTC [-]
Apr 17 09:27:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 24 @ 0.00161 = 0.0386 BTC [-]
Apr 17 09:27:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 35 @ 0.0016 = 0.056 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 09:28:38 <Scrat>	bah, SR
Apr 17 09:29:25 <leotreasure>	lol yeh the cryptographics reference was a bit odd
Apr 17 09:29:46 <leotreasure>	but the graphics is mint
Apr 17 09:29:50 <leotreasure>	are*
Apr 17 09:30:02 <pgp>	excellent video
Apr 17 09:30:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 09:30:44 <Scrat>	but I still think every video/article that mentions mining should also mention that you can't really mine on a desktop computer anymore
Apr 17 09:31:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i notice when i explain btc a lot of people do get hung up on mining
Apr 17 09:31:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6899 BTC [+]
Apr 17 09:31:15 <Scrat>	the general public has this misconception that you can create tons of this "toy currency" on your pc
Apr 17 09:31:22 <ThickAsThieves>	like they think thats how you get coins primarily
Apr 17 09:31:38 <ThickAsThieves>	and have to come around to the fact they need to buy them
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Apr 17 09:32:07 <Scrat>	which makes it sound like a joke
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Apr 17 09:32:53 <pgp>	gotta love this volatility
Apr 17 09:33:20 <Scrat>	;;goxlag
Apr 17 09:33:26 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 56.278874 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.112782233366 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 17 09:33:50 <ThickAsThieves>	oh goodie lag
Apr 17 09:34:19 <pgp>	notably worse this morning...  http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
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Apr 17 09:34:48 <pgp>	more bots stuffin the gox book with dust
Apr 17 09:34:54 <ThickAsThieves>	someone doesnt want the price this high
Apr 17 09:35:33 <ThickAsThieves>	its amazing how this price got built on top of one floating floor at 70
Apr 17 09:36:06 <pgp>	we need to invent a clever term for the practice of placing zillions of tiny order on gox...
Apr 17 09:36:44 <ThickAsThieves>	death by a thousand needles
Apr 17 09:36:47 <ThickAsThieves>	needling?
Apr 17 09:36:47 <leotreasure>	what's a floating floor?
Apr 17 09:37:02 <pgp>	dust farming?
Apr 17 09:37:13 <ThickAsThieves>	a large bid wall with no support immediately below it
Apr 17 09:37:30 <pgp>	called spoofing irl
Apr 17 09:38:12 <pgp>	out of the money bids or offers that aren't relly bona fide whose primary purpose is to manipulate the public perception of supply and demand...
Apr 17 09:39:06 <pgp>	hard to prove, but defnately illegal
Apr 17 09:39:13 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 17 09:39:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.10000, Best ask: 88.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 88.11000, 24 hour volume: 339772.36559929, 24 hour low: 60.00000, 24 hour high: 93.44000, 24 hour vwap: 74.77042
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Apr 17 09:39:54 <leotreasure>	thanks
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Apr 17 09:43:05 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like that was the top
Apr 17 09:43:21 <pgp>	i think so
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Apr 17 09:51:22 <Scrat>	say isn't so
Apr 17 09:51:25 <Scrat>	it*
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Apr 17 09:57:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.00065 = 0.065 BTC [+]
Apr 17 09:58:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 22 @ 0.00062 = 0.0136 BTC [-]
Apr 17 09:58:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00061 = 0.0061 BTC [-]
Apr 17 09:58:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 18 @ 0.0006 = 0.0108 BTC [-]
Apr 17 09:58:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [-]
Apr 17 09:58:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.0099 = 0.0396 BTC [-]
Apr 17 09:59:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.00189 = 0.0113 BTC [+]
Apr 17 10:01:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Apr 17 10:01:14 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 17 10:01:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.01000, Best ask: 93.19900, Bid-ask spread: 0.18900, Last trade: 93.19900, 24 hour volume: 340471.61760355, 24 hour low: 60.12200, 24 hour high: 93.44000, 24 hour vwap: 75.28430
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Apr 17 10:01:56 <deadweasel>	are we topping out and turning down again?
Apr 17 10:02:15 <bitesak>	everyone here knows what they are talking about :)
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Apr 17 10:05:15 <pgp>	looks like we're gonna test 100
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Apr 17 10:07:43 <deadweasel>	pgp thx.  kraken tells me something similar.
Apr 17 10:07:56 <deadweasel>	bitesak: i have virtually no idea.
Apr 17 10:08:15 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 17 10:08:15 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 22 hours, 25 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 17 10:13:20 <pgp>	smickles MIA
Apr 17 10:15:30 <pgp>	looking overextending here
Apr 17 10:19:30 <pgp>	incredible volatility...
Apr 17 10:21:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.199 = 0.398 BTC [+]
Apr 17 10:23:07 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 10:23:07 <gribble>	There are currently 59667521 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 16412782.4577 USD in total. | Data vintage: 59.8555 seconds
Apr 17 10:23:31 <pgp>	I guess that's a fairly resounding NO to 100....
Apr 17 10:23:46 <pgp>	;;bids 50
Apr 17 10:23:47 <gribble>	There are currently 137281.04 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 8853194.47431 USD in total. | Data vintage: 99.6279 seconds
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Apr 17 10:25:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.459 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:25:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.451 = 2.902 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:25:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4 = 2.8 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:25:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.348 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:25:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.685 = 5.055 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 10:28:27 <error4733>	;;seen bugpowder
Apr 17 10:28:27 <gribble>	bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 51 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> jesus
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Apr 17 10:30:29 <pgp>	does this action seem contrived to anyone else?
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Apr 17 10:35:16 <bgupta>	really hft bots… that throw and cancel orders on an exchange at ultra high speed.
Apr 17 10:35:30 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 17 10:35:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.50000, Best ask: 92.96000, Bid-ask spread: 0.46000, Last trade: 92.50000, 24 hour volume: 370656.74307146, 24 hour low: 60.90000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 77.27166
Apr 17 10:35:42 <bgupta>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_trading
Apr 17 10:35:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.68499 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:37:29 <pgp>	yeah - i'm in the hft business - just seems a little stranger than that too me...
Apr 17 10:37:32 <deyyo>	;;next
Apr 17 10:37:32 <gribble>	trend is bullish | support: 82, 77| targets 100-102, 110-113, 50% retracement at 160 | low buy targets: 72, 60.5, 55.5 | 53 danger zone (potential panic or bounce) | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 13:34 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 30 seconds ago
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Apr 17 10:38:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1968 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:38:16 <pigeons>	what did they miss april 1? http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-957375
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Apr 17 10:39:34 <ThickAsThieves>	wtf is that?!
Apr 17 10:39:49 <ThickAsThieves>	is that some kind of user area
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Apr 17 10:41:33 <pgp>	yeah - well, probably more of a pr stunt to prop up their currency
Apr 17 10:41:56 <pgp>	be very difficult for a government to make this change quickly
Apr 17 10:42:11 <ThickAsThieves>	it feels like a bunch of mini bubbles in btc land right now
Apr 17 10:42:21 <pgp>	yes
Apr 17 10:42:47 <ThickAsThieves>	i cant figure whether everyone is this dumn or if i'm totally missing something
Apr 17 10:43:00 <ThickAsThieves>	with btc touching 98 so quick,
Apr 17 10:43:04 <ThickAsThieves>	AM at 1.6_
Apr 17 10:43:05 <pgp>	what do you mean?
Apr 17 10:43:08 <ThickAsThieves>	1.6+
Apr 17 10:43:20 <ThickAsThieves>	people buying AM boards at 50+btc
Apr 17 10:43:31 <pgp>	asicminer...
Apr 17 10:43:36 <pgp>	yeah, weird
Apr 17 10:43:57 <pgp>	somebodu knows something material about future hash rates
Apr 17 10:44:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.68499 = 10.1099 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 10:44:21 <ThickAsThieves>	or someone is fluffing the price
Apr 17 10:44:50 <ThickAsThieves>	or people are just manic
Apr 17 10:44:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno
Apr 17 10:45:31 <topace>	bubblebubblebubble!
Apr 17 10:45:39 <topace>	doublebubblebubble!
Apr 17 10:45:43 <pgp>	looks liek about 600 BTC worth has driven it up
Apr 17 10:46:13 <topace>	well when the 25000 users pending verification on mtgox get verified.. thats a lot of cash flowing INTO btc
Apr 17 10:46:21 <ThickAsThieves>	or out
Apr 17 10:46:28 <topace>	i think that alone will prop up the price
Apr 17 10:46:47 <pgp>	we'll see
Apr 17 10:46:58 <pgp>	they approve 20k account per day
Apr 17 10:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.48 = 1.92 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:47:13 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 17 10:47:16 <ThickAsThieves>	is that true
Apr 17 10:47:21 <pgp>	so they claim
Apr 17 10:47:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought it was more like 200
Apr 17 10:47:37 <topace>	seems kinda high to me
Apr 17 10:47:44 <ThickAsThieves>	my brorther got in verification q at about 15600
Apr 17 10:47:45 <pgp>	no... 20k/day
Apr 17 10:47:53 <ThickAsThieves>	and reported about 200 a day change
Apr 17 10:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46124 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.45600001 = 1.368 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:48:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.456 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:48:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:48:27 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe they create 20k accounts per day
Apr 17 10:48:32 <ThickAsThieves>	unverfied
Apr 17 10:48:32 <topace>	that'd be a team of 30 with each person doing 1.38 verifications per minute
Apr 17 10:48:33 <pgp>	maybe they mean that they're opening 20k accounts a day
Apr 17 10:48:39 <topace>	for 8 hours/day
Apr 17 10:48:57 <pgp>	i heard that they hired something like 20 clerical workers
Apr 17 10:49:15 <topace>	still not enough
Apr 17 10:49:18 <topace>	to do 20000/day
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Apr 17 10:49:28 <topace>	a verification should take at least 3-5 minutes per
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Apr 17 10:49:31 <pgp>	w/e just relaying what i've read
Apr 17 10:49:55 <pgp>	some of that is from gox site
Apr 17 10:49:58 <deadweasel>	queue at gox could be manipulated by them trying to show high clearing rates for new accts
Apr 17 10:50:02 <ThickAsThieves>	also consider
Apr 17 10:50:12 <ThickAsThieves>	what the average budget for each account might be
Apr 17 10:50:15 <ThickAsThieves>	probly low
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Apr 17 10:50:29 <deadweasel>	200-500-2000
Apr 17 10:50:39 <deadweasel>	tiered
Apr 17 10:51:02 <pgp>	also, alot of people have transferred coin in to sell and now may want their cash..
Apr 17 10:51:22 <pgp>	maybe they can tell and slow play those guys?
Apr 17 10:51:36 <ThickAsThieves>	interesting
Apr 17 10:51:42 <ThickAsThieves>	qouldnt be hard
Apr 17 10:51:49 <pgp>	not at all
Apr 17 10:51:56 <pgp>	easy DB query
Apr 17 10:52:21 <pgp>	assuming their not using Paradox 1.0
Apr 17 10:52:34 <pigeons>	no they use filemaker pro
Apr 17 10:52:38 <pgp>	lol
Apr 17 10:52:40 <deadweasel>	i moved to bitfloor
Apr 17 10:53:09 <ThickAsThieves>	i use 3 exchanges now
Apr 17 10:53:10 <pgp>	bf is a better exchange, but not that much liquidity...
Apr 17 10:53:25 <ThickAsThieves>	makes things easier
Apr 17 10:53:55 <ThickAsThieves>	also allows faster cash out
Apr 17 10:53:59 <pgp>	yep
Apr 17 10:54:25 <pgp>	bf ACH is one day turn around - pretty damn good if you asked me
Apr 17 10:54:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.1381 = 1.381 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:54:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.138 = 1.242 BTC [-]
Apr 17 10:54:59 <pgp>	and localtill deposit is < 1hour
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Apr 17 10:57:19 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --sell 25000
Apr 17 10:57:21 <gribble>	A market order to sell 25000 bitcoins right now would net 2056303.7370 USD and would take the last price down to 76.2500 USD, resulting in an average price of 82.2521 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0008 seconds
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Apr 17 11:01:07 <ThickAsThieves>	hmm
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Apr 17 11:01:18 <ThickAsThieves>	asks and bids look awfully bullish
Apr 17 11:01:42 <pgp>	spoofing
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Apr 17 11:02:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [+]
Apr 17 11:02:26 <ThickAsThieves>	yesterday: [11:30] <gribble> There are currently 44742.302 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 4052691.03532 USD
Apr 17 11:02:35 <ThickAsThieves>	oops
Apr 17 11:02:37 <ThickAsThieves>	not that
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Apr 17 11:02:56 <ThickAsThieves>	[11:30] <gribble> There are currently 173617.95 bitcoins demanded at or over 25.0 USD, worth 7518876.7858
Apr 17 11:03:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 25
Apr 17 11:03:03 <gribble>	There are currently 241400.69 bitcoins demanded at or over 25.0 USD, worth 12817921.3237 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.3510 seconds
Apr 17 11:03:12 <ThickAsThieves>	k
Apr 17 11:03:24 <ThickAsThieves>	not bullish
Apr 17 11:03:24 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 17 11:04:04 <ThickAsThieves>	its a lot more USD ready to buy
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Apr 17 11:04:45 <ThickAsThieves>	you think that is spoofed?
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Apr 17 11:06:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;market --buy 50000
Apr 17 11:06:35 <gribble>	A market order to buy 50000 bitcoins right now would take 5375040.8759 USD and would take the last price up to 130.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 107.5008 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 69.4480 seconds
Apr 17 11:06:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.199 = 1.99 BTC [+]
Apr 17 11:07:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.684 = 3.368 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:07:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.68499 = 5.055 BTC [+]
Apr 17 11:08:05 <pgp>	yes...  if I had enough USD and BTC at gox, that's EXACTLY what I would do.  it's manipulative, illegal irl, it works, and I'm sure that gox doesn't monitor or give a damn...
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Apr 17 11:09:12 <ThickAsThieves>	well i had a plan, just gonna stick to it then
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Apr 17 11:09:26 <pgp>	what's that?
Apr 17 11:09:50 <ThickAsThieves>	wait for high 50s low 60s
Apr 17 11:09:55 <ThickAsThieves>	buy for a bounce
Apr 17 11:09:57 <pgp>	good plan
Apr 17 11:10:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.000698 = 0.0063 BTC [+]
Apr 17 11:10:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000698 = 0.0035 BTC [+]
Apr 17 11:10:10 <ThickAsThieves>	then wait for sub 50s to settle for long term buy
Apr 17 11:10:24 <pgp>	if it break 86 here, pretty sure it'll go somewhat lower
Apr 17 11:10:42 <ThickAsThieves>	i do feel a little left out playing  this rise
Apr 17 11:10:46 <ThickAsThieves>	but meh
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Apr 17 11:11:37 <pgp>	play the bounces
Apr 17 11:11:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 486 @ 0.000699 = 0.3397 BTC [+]
Apr 17 11:12:26 <pgp>	if it break 90, prolly short term buy to 94
Apr 17 11:12:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.0041 = 0.0328 BTC [+]
Apr 17 11:13:19 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like its stepping down from the top
Apr 17 11:13:37 <pgp>	i'm short
Apr 17 11:13:42 <ThickAsThieves>	next bounce from 87.25
Apr 17 11:15:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00395 = 0.395 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 11:16:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.00395 = 1.58 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 11:25:16 <ThickAsThieves>	AM boards selling at 60btc
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Apr 17 11:27:56 <wesleymouch>	anyone know a BTC addr belonging to mircea_popescu personally?
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Apr 17 11:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36600003 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36600002 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:30:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36600002 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:30:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36600001 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:30:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.366 = 1.464 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:30:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i believe the mpex one is known
Apr 17 11:30:23 <ThickAsThieves>	personal isnt
Apr 17 11:30:25 <ThickAsThieves>	afaik
Apr 17 11:30:50 <wesleymouch>	AFAIK, anything sent to the mpex one gets divided among shareholders automagically
Apr 17 11:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.366 = 0.732 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.36500015 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 11:34:10 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 17 11:34:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.45001, Best ask: 94.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 94.50000, 24 hour volume: 351440.83712164, 24 hour low: 63.30000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 78.77490
Apr 17 11:34:26 <jurov>	wesleymouch: i doubt he needs any
Apr 17 11:34:50 <wesleymouch>	I need to send him some, believe it or not
Apr 17 11:35:08 <jurov>	without him knowing?
Apr 17 11:35:20 <error4733>	seems legit
Apr 17 11:35:41 <wesleymouch>	I don't much care if he knows, I suppose he's bound to notice eventually
Apr 17 11:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00340003 = 3.4 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 11:36:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00340002 = 3.4 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:36:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00340001 = 3.4 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:36:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0034 = 3.4 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 11:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00338001 = 3.38 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:37:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 438 @ 0.00338 = 1.4804 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:38:40 <jurov>	wesleymouch: I think I fund one: 1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc
Apr 17 11:38:45 <jurov>	*found
Apr 17 11:38:51 <wesleymouch>	source?
Apr 17 11:39:07 <jurov>	his bets on bitbet
Apr 17 11:39:45 <ThickAsThieves>	lol, mp only has 1btc i knew it
Apr 17 11:39:54 <wesleymouch>	how do you know this was him?
Apr 17 11:41:30 <jurov>	i think it's most likely
Apr 17 11:42:03 <pgp>	if only these folks traficed in bitcoins instead of fiat   http://www.cnbc.com/id/100649123
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Apr 17 11:42:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00070731 = 2.5463 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 11:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.336 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:44:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.336 = 0.672 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:44:29 <jurov>	wesleymouch: already sent? sry, i'm just trolling you, the addy is mine
Apr 17 11:45:01 <wesleymouch>	nope
Apr 17 11:45:04 <wesleymouch>	find another idiot
Apr 17 11:45:10 <jurov>	=)
Apr 17 11:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.325 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:46:20 <jurov>	but i see no problem just sending them to mpex, MP will still get more than 80% iirc
Apr 17 11:47:00 <MJR_>	hi all
Apr 17 11:48:19 <pgp>	hey
Apr 17 11:48:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6849 BTC [-]
Apr 17 11:48:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.68499 = 6.74 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 11:56:32 <pgp>	whoosh
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Apr 17 11:57:45 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 17 11:57:45 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
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Apr 17 12:02:04 <error4733>	;;next
Apr 17 12:02:04 <gribble>	a bear trap has been sprung, trend is very bullish | support: 88, 82, 77| targets 100-102, 110-113, 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 14:33 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 hour, 29 minutes, and 2 seconds ago
Apr 17 12:03:48 <error4733>	http://mainewoodsmen.com/graphics/beartrapping.jpg
Apr 17 12:04:21 <pgp>	lol
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Apr 17 12:11:48 <jurov>	http://i.imgur.com/eHyQ2Ya.jpg
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Apr 17 12:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.905 BTC [+]
Apr 17 12:13:08 <jurov>	;;bc,diff
Apr 17 12:13:09 <gribble>	Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
Apr 17 12:13:13 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Apr 17 12:13:16 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 231836 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 3 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 25 minutes and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8984709.58341 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.09513
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Apr 17 12:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.509 = 5.09 BTC [+]
Apr 17 12:17:35 <soypirate>	Bugpowder: how did you do that?
Apr 17 12:17:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4729 BTC [-]
Apr 17 12:17:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.472842 BTC [-]
Apr 17 12:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.509 = 2.545 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 12:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.509 = 10.18 BTC [+]
Apr 17 12:19:43 <ThickAsThieves>	Bugpowder said something?
Apr 17 12:19:56 <ThickAsThieves>	soypirate is hallucinating
Apr 17 12:20:10 <soypirate>	sorry, i was looking at my log from earlier. my bad
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Apr 17 12:21:48 <soypirate>	that's funny. right when it got awkward, awkorama quits... must'v felt awkward.
Apr 17 12:22:07 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 17 12:22:28 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 17 12:22:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.20001, Best ask: 91.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.79999, Last trade: 91.01000, 24 hour volume: 350363.62202285, 24 hour low: 63.30000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 79.87284
Apr 17 12:22:33 <thestringpuller>	Oh goodness
Apr 17 12:24:04 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 17 12:24:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.50233, Best ask: 91.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99767, Last trade: 91.50000, 24 hour volume: 350002.11876759, 24 hour low: 63.30000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 79.88848
Apr 17 12:25:19 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 17 12:25:20 <gribble>	a bear trap has been sprung, trend is very bullish | support: 88, 82, 77| targets 100-102, 110-113, 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 14:33 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 hour, 52 minutes, and 18 seconds ago
Apr 17 12:25:35 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 12:25:35 <gribble>	There are currently 58814751 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 16970316.4736 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.2052 seconds
Apr 17 12:25:38 <pgp>	who on this chan is going to San Jose for Bitcoin 2013?
Apr 17 12:25:46 <ThickAsThieves>	considering it
Apr 17 12:26:36 <thestringpuller>	that's in may right?
Apr 17 12:29:14 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 12:29:14 <gribble>	There are currently 58814766 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 16979333.6395 USD in total. | Data vintage: 30.3230 seconds
Apr 17 12:29:32 <topace>	may 17-19
Apr 17 12:29:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 61 @ 0.00361 = 0.2202 BTC [-]
Apr 17 12:29:34 <topace>	yea
Apr 17 12:29:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 102 @ 0.00355 = 0.3621 BTC [-]
Apr 17 12:29:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0035 = 0.0175 BTC [-]
Apr 17 12:29:46 <topace>	if i wasnt already at another conferece that week, i'd consider it
Apr 17 12:30:26 <ThickAsThieves>	mostly i'm worried itll be super lame
Apr 17 12:30:39 <pgp>	yep may 17-19
Apr 17 12:32:35 <soypirate>	hehe
Apr 17 12:33:05 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 17 12:33:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.97412, Best ask: 90.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00588, Last trade: 90.98000, 24 hour volume: 348876.16877003, 24 hour low: 63.30000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 79.96829
Apr 17 12:33:19 <thestringpuller>	I always miss da dips
Apr 17 12:33:52 <pgp>	you'll get another chance
Apr 17 12:34:02 <pgp>	in a few minutes, I think
Apr 17 12:34:48 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 12:34:48 <gribble>	There are currently 58743992 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 17043766.9757 USD in total. | Data vintage: 42.9153 seconds
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Apr 17 12:40:39 <gribble>	a bear trap has been sprung, trend is very bullish | support: 88, 82, 77| targets 100-102, 110-113, 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 14:33 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 7 minutes, and 37 seconds ago
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Apr 17 12:48:08 <diki>	Anything I can invest in with 150 usd to earn me some money bi-weekly or daily?
Apr 17 12:48:35 <ThickAsThieves>	a goat?
Apr 17 12:48:38 <jurov>	Namworld's bonds?
Apr 17 12:48:58 <diki>	I meant something to do with Bitcoin.
Apr 17 12:49:10 <ThickAsThieves>	i think there is a goat on Bitmit
Apr 17 12:49:26 <jurov>	27 year old *male* goat... no thanks
Apr 17 12:49:42 <ThickAsThieves>	a bond is probably safest, if you can get it at face value
Apr 17 12:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.91 BTC [+]
Apr 17 12:50:12 <diki>	ThickAsThieves:Does hand value also work?
Apr 17 12:50:17 <diki>	Or perhaps foot value?
Apr 17 12:50:25 <soypirate>	you can get some good meat out of that. you have to keep the goat away from females for a month at least. otherwise you can taste the sex hormones
Apr 17 12:50:34 <kakobrekla>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 17 12:50:34 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 12 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> i've yet to step in lawnmower shit.
Apr 17 12:51:09 <Scrat>	there's a guy on -otc selling livestock for btc
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Apr 17 12:51:35 <jurov>	diki: or you can open coinbr account and get some rich referrals
Apr 17 12:52:04 <jurov>	and this bond i meant: https://btct.co/security/BTC-BOND
Apr 17 12:52:31 <diki>	What about an ASICMINER-PT share?
Apr 17 12:52:36 <Namworld>	diki, my bond is in BTC
Apr 17 12:52:51 <ThickAsThieves>	AM is overprice imo
Apr 17 12:53:00 <ThickAsThieves>	but you could join the herd
Apr 17 12:53:12 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe i'm wrong
Apr 17 12:53:28 <jurov>	it's pig trap?
Apr 17 12:54:03 <ThickAsThieves>	has everyone gone nuts? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1865656#msg1865656
Apr 17 12:54:05 <ThickAsThieves>	wtf
Apr 17 12:54:22 <ThickAsThieves>	or did i just lose 50 IQ in two days?
Apr 17 12:54:34 <ThickAsThieves>	then the next comment...
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Apr 17 12:54:46 <ThickAsThieves>	"USD price of Bitcoin has nearly no impact on the price of ASICMiner shares."
Apr 17 12:54:55 <ThickAsThieves>	well, it should
Apr 17 12:55:59 <soypirate>	ThickAsThieves: I think he's exagerrating but I would say that the shareprice is more stable compared to btc/usd
Apr 17 12:56:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.32 = 2.64 BTC [-]
Apr 17 12:56:16 <ThickAsThieves>	stable =/= no impact
Apr 17 12:56:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31101 BTC [-]
Apr 17 12:56:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.311 BTC [-]
Apr 17 12:56:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [-]
Apr 17 12:56:35 <soypirate>	that's completely true
Apr 17 12:56:47 <ThickAsThieves>	if btc went up to $1000
Apr 17 12:56:54 <ThickAsThieves>	everyone would clamor for div stocks
Apr 17 12:57:08 <ThickAsThieves>	$1, and sell off
Apr 17 12:57:15 <soypirate>	yeah
Apr 17 12:57:18 <ThickAsThieves>	at least, if they werent dumb
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Apr 17 12:58:49 <diki>	what about https://cloudhashing.com/contracts/one-year-contracts?
Apr 17 12:59:06 <soypirate>	so... what are some advantages of bonds over, for example div stocks? more security?
Apr 17 13:00:02 <ThickAsThieves>	diki,
Apr 17 13:00:10 <ThickAsThieves>	the cloudhashing thing could easily be a scam
Apr 17 13:00:42 <ThickAsThieves>	bonds with fixed interest and fixed face value dont care about outside factors
Apr 17 13:01:01 <ThickAsThieves>	they become highly valuable when price rises, and easy to liquidate when it falls
Apr 17 13:01:25 <ThickAsThieves>	unlike most stocks
Apr 17 13:01:41 <ThickAsThieves>	like sdice for example, if you own 1m shares
Apr 17 13:01:44 <ThickAsThieves>	you are stuck
Apr 17 13:01:49 <ThickAsThieves>	no one to sell to
Apr 17 13:02:01 <ThickAsThieves>	without losing your ass
Apr 17 13:02:29 <Doffx>	Same with AsicMiner unless they make better Miners in the future the stock can only go down over time.
Apr 17 13:02:41 <soypirate>	ah, I see.
Apr 17 13:02:50 <Doffx>	I hate having BTC tied up in stocks sometimes
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Apr 17 13:02:58 <diki>	Hmm
Apr 17 13:03:03 <soypirate>	does mpex doesn't really deal in bonds, does it?
Apr 17 13:03:16 <diki>	I am going to place a buy limit on bitfinex for some nice buy
Apr 17 13:03:16 <Doffx>	He has stoks, and options
Apr 17 13:03:23 <Doffx>	I think his Options are the best out there
Apr 17 13:03:47 <ThickAsThieves>	mpex has a different kind of bod
Apr 17 13:03:49 <ThickAsThieves>	bond
Apr 17 13:03:51 <ThickAsThieves>	high risk
Apr 17 13:03:57 <ThickAsThieves>	monthly turnover
Apr 17 13:04:58 <soypirate>	so for a safer route, you would recommend btct.co?
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Apr 17 13:05:40 <ThickAsThieves>	personally, i dont buy Nam's bonds because i make more money have loose btc to day trade with
Apr 17 13:05:51 <ThickAsThieves>	having*
Apr 17 13:06:24 <ThickAsThieves>	but if you wanna just set it and forget it
Apr 17 13:06:28 <ThickAsThieves>	you could do worse
Apr 17 13:06:29 <soypirate>	yeah, I don't really know how to do that yet.
Apr 17 13:06:41 <soypirate>	any tips for day trading?
Apr 17 13:06:51 <ThickAsThieves>	loaded question
Apr 17 13:06:56 <ThickAsThieves>	buy low, sell high
Apr 17 13:06:56 <pgp>	lol
Apr 17 13:07:16 <kakobrekla>	that should work yea
Apr 17 13:07:41 <soypirate>	i've got that much worked out, hopefully
Apr 17 13:07:56 <ThickAsThieves>	AM boards selling at 60btc now, still 2 days left for bidding...
Apr 17 13:08:55 <soypirate>	so Nam's bonds have monthly payout? set it and forget it, money rolls in?
Apr 17 13:09:19 <Namworld>	daily payout
Apr 17 13:09:26 <Namworld>	0.03%
Apr 17 13:09:27 <ThickAsThieves>	daily payout is much nicer
Apr 17 13:09:53 <ThickAsThieves>	allows you to reinvest for compounded interest
Apr 17 13:10:04 <soypirate>	ah, yes...
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Apr 17 13:15:32 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 17 13:15:34 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.74090, Best ask: 89.01001, Bid-ask spread: 0.26911, Last trade: 88.24000, 24 hour volume: 330372.48564505, 24 hour low: 63.30000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 80.40101
Apr 17 13:16:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6779 BTC [+]
Apr 17 13:16:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.67799 BTC [+]
Apr 17 13:16:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.678 = 6.712 BTC [+]
Apr 17 13:21:57 <Namworld>	x 365 days, makes 10.95% per year
Apr 17 13:22:15 <Namworld>	It's a bit low. But it's reasonable.
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Apr 17 13:23:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.678 BTC [+]
Apr 17 13:23:42 <Diablo-D3>	does anyone want to loan me money?
Apr 17 13:23:58 <InstantBTC>	how much?
Apr 17 13:24:04 <Diablo-D3>	about 10 BTC
Apr 17 13:24:13 <InstantBTC>	for how long?
Apr 17 13:24:26 <Diablo-D3>	a month or two.
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Apr 17 13:25:19 <ThickAsThieves>	diablo just sell your shares
Apr 17 13:25:31 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: cant, they're real shares.
Apr 17 13:25:41 <ThickAsThieves>	sell your AM
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Apr 17 13:25:49 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: cant, they're real shares.
Apr 17 13:25:52 <Diablo-D3>	I just said that.
Apr 17 13:25:52 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 17 13:25:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.678 BTC [+]
Apr 17 13:26:00 <Diablo-D3>	they're not fake passthrough shares
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Apr 17 13:27:23 <ThickAsThieves>	how does a guy like you not have 10btc for months?
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Apr 17 13:27:51 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: because I need 10 BTC on top of what I already have
Apr 17 13:29:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.66 BTC [-]
Apr 17 13:30:07 <Diablo-D3>	meh
Apr 17 13:31:00 <sharktopuz>	!ident nikosdano
Apr 17 13:31:23 <Diablo-D3>	maybe I'll sell 500 shares of ASICMINER
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Apr 17 13:31:59 <ThickAsThieves>	if you can get 1.6 i would
Apr 17 13:32:11 <Diablo-D3>	who the fuck is buying them? =/
Apr 17 13:32:17 <ThickAsThieves>	mystery
Apr 17 13:32:21 <ThickAsThieves>	idiots?
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Apr 17 13:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.92999 = 9.65 BTC [+]
Apr 17 13:34:05 <Diablo-D3>	who owns that asicminer-pt passthrough?
Apr 17 13:34:23 <Doffx>	DeaDTerra does.
Apr 17 13:34:25 <Scrat>	AAPL hit 399
Apr 17 13:34:27 <Scrat>	fuck yeah
Apr 17 13:34:37 <Diablo-D3>	DeaDTerra: please tell me you are here
Apr 17 13:34:46 <ll>	btctc-pt is burnside no?
Apr 17 13:34:57 <Doffx>	How do you not know this stuff, what rock have you been under Diablo-D3??
Apr 17 13:34:59 <ll>	deadterra does the bitfunder one afaik
Apr 17 13:35:00 <Doffx>	:)
Apr 17 13:35:15 <Diablo-D3>	which passthrough is at the highest price?
Apr 17 13:35:18 <Doffx>	I think he has it on both since he gave the option for both way back
Apr 17 13:35:22 <Diablo-D3>	Doffx: I dont do passthroughs
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Apr 17 13:35:53 <Doffx>	Its not about whether or not you use them, I would just think you would know about them,
Apr 17 13:35:57 <Diablo-D3>	meh the one on btctc is worthless
Apr 17 13:36:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [-]
Apr 17 13:36:06 <Doffx>	1 share on a PT = 1 Real share anyhow
Apr 17 13:36:08 <Diablo-D3>	not enough sales volume
Apr 17 13:36:10 <ThickAsThieves>	burnside is in hawaii
Apr 17 13:36:13 <Diablo-D3>	https://btct.co/security/ASICMINER-PT
Apr 17 13:36:23 <Doffx>	the PT just gives you a way to trade them easily
Apr 17 13:36:27 <Diablo-D3>	if i sold 500 on that it'd crash the market to 0.01
Apr 17 13:36:35 <ThickAsThieves>	but you only need 10 btc
Apr 17 13:36:48 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: I want to chase after all the units if I can
Apr 17 13:36:52 <ThickAsThieves>	try posting on forum 500 @ 1.2
Apr 17 13:36:54 <ThickAsThieves>	or such
Apr 17 13:37:05 <ThickAsThieves>	hot dealz!
Apr 17 13:37:37 <Doffx>	500 on Bitfunder would bring it back to .70
Apr 17 13:37:57 <Doffx>	Ill buy some from you at .80 :)
Apr 17 13:38:30 <Doffx>	I have go 10 btc worth NP
Apr 17 13:38:35 <Doffx>	err can go
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Apr 17 13:44:31 <Diablo-D3>	damnit
Apr 17 13:44:38 <Diablo-D3>	I wish I could bid on the units using asicminer shares
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Apr 17 13:48:28 <Diablo-D3>	I could sell my 371 shares that are mine
Apr 17 13:48:41 <Diablo-D3>	and that'd be enough to bid on 3
Apr 17 13:49:41 <Doffx>	You could probably sell them right now to someone on bitcoin talk for 1.25 a share
Apr 17 13:49:56 <Diablo-D3>	hmm maybe.
Apr 17 13:50:35 <Doffx>	Although I wouldnt be too hasty with bidding there are 2 days left and all bid action happens in like the last 15m
Apr 17 13:50:50 <ThickAsThieves>	price will end up absurd
Apr 17 13:50:54 <Doffx>	Yep
Apr 17 13:50:56 <ThickAsThieves>	dont get too wrapped up
Apr 17 13:51:18 <Doffx>	It makes me sad
Apr 17 13:51:25 <Diablo-D3>	yeah but what if I sold all 1375 shares for 1.25 or more?
Apr 17 13:51:29 <Doffx>	Id like to own one but its going to be way out of my range
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Apr 17 13:51:52 <Diablo-D3>	I could bid 172 BTC on each
Apr 17 13:51:56 <Doffx>	Dont you need to ask your Investors that question first? :)
Apr 17 13:52:02 <Diablo-D3>	Doffx: nope.
Apr 17 13:52:35 <Doffx>	Why would you want to
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Apr 17 13:52:56 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs.
Apr 17 13:53:22 <Diablo-D3>	it'd only take me about a year to pay that off.
Apr 17 13:53:32 <Doffx>	Whats the ROI considering BTC stays at 90 at 172 each
Apr 17 13:53:44 <Doffx>	What if it drops to 40
Apr 17 13:53:45 <Diablo-D3>	Doffx: dont care about the dollars.
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Apr 17 13:54:30 <Diablo-D3>	I doubt anyone will bid that high
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Apr 17 13:54:54 <Doffx>	I dunno we bought FPGAs a year ago when ROI was 1 year
Apr 17 13:55:11 <Doffx>	So if you keep your Price with 1 Y ROI in mind it seems reasonable.
Apr 17 13:55:27 <Doffx>	Id imagine everyone else is thinking that as well though.
Apr 17 13:55:47 *	Diablo-D3 gets priced out of owning an asic again then =/
Apr 17 13:56:23 <Doffx>	Haha, I have had the same issue
Apr 17 13:56:39 <Doffx>	Avalon batch 1 sold I had 0 on hand, batch 2 same, Batch 3 no way
Apr 17 13:56:52 <Doffx>	My own fault but oh well.
Apr 17 13:57:04 <Diablo-D3>	all the avalon batch 2 asics should be destroyed anyhow
Apr 17 13:57:15 <Diablo-D3>	brb xchat fucking up again
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Apr 17 13:59:20 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 13:59:22 <gribble>	There are currently 58934360 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 16558645.8046 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0103 seconds
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Apr 17 14:22:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00409 = 0.0205 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 14:28:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.4 = 4.2 BTC [-]
Apr 17 14:29:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.21 = 3.63 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 14:29:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20001 BTC [-]
Apr 17 14:30:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 14:31:02 <jurov>	coinbr affiliate credits paid out, some users got as much as 1.6BTC
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Apr 17 14:31:24 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 17 14:31:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.91000, Best ask: 87.99810, Bid-ask spread: 0.08810, Last trade: 87.99810, 24 hour volume: 318843.12045094, 24 hour low: 63.30000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 81.45037
Apr 17 14:31:42 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 17 14:31:43 <gribble>	a bear trap has been sprung, trend is very bullish | support: 88, 82, 77| targets 100-102, 110-113, 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 17 2013, 14:33 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 3 hours, 58 minutes, and 41 seconds ago
Apr 17 14:33:06 <error4733>	;;seen namworld
Apr 17 14:33:07 <gribble>	namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <Namworld> It's a bit low. But it's reasonable.
Apr 17 14:33:18 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 17 14:33:18 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 6 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 17 14:33:50 <error4733>	;;eightball will we hit 99 today Est time
Apr 17 14:33:51 <gribble>	_I_ don't know.
Apr 17 14:34:11 <error4733>	;;eightball are you useless
Apr 17 14:34:11 <gribble>	Yes!
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Apr 17 14:36:59 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov i got more than 1.6
Apr 17 14:37:02 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 17 14:37:31 <ThickAsThieves>	2.25336248
Apr 17 14:37:51 <error4733>	wtf... bought at first ipo 0.1 ?
Apr 17 14:38:21 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves: haha good for ya. i just skimmed the list :)
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Apr 17 14:38:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1588 BTC [+]
Apr 17 14:39:41 <ThickAsThieves>	very nice surprise
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Apr 17 14:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.0007 = 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 17 14:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 290 @ 0.00069826 = 0.2025 BTC [-]
Apr 17 14:45:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 14:49:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0029 BTC [+]
Apr 17 14:54:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 15:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.94 = 7.76 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 15:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.31 = 8.99 BTC [-]
Apr 17 15:06:53 <jcpham>	https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
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Apr 17 15:09:38 <Diablo-D3>	https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5566394
Apr 17 15:10:48 <jcpham>	sounds like faux news to me
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Apr 17 15:13:49 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179065.0
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Apr 17 15:16:59 <jcpham>	what are you auctioning
Apr 17 15:17:29 <jcpham>	nm i see
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Apr 17 15:18:36 <ThickAsThieves>	diablo will kill the rally
Apr 17 15:18:37 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Apr 17 15:21:48 <joecool>	ThickAsThieves: diablo ruins everything
Apr 17 15:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 19 @ 1.94 = 36.86 BTC [+]
Apr 17 15:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.91 BTC [-]
Apr 17 15:22:23 <ll>	!t btctc asicminer-pt
Apr 17 15:22:25 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.851 / 1.19593 / 1.75 (604 shares, 722.3 BTC),  7D: 0.6269 / 0.90209 / 1.75 (2259 shares, 2037.8 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.80625 / 1.75 (8771 shares, 7071.6 BTC)
Apr 17 15:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [-]
Apr 17 15:24:07 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: I want at least one of those units.
Apr 17 15:26:17 <ThickAsThieves>	go for it, balls to the wall!
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Apr 17 15:36:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.415 = 7.075 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 15:39:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.415 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 15:49:32 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 17 15:49:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.69853, Best ask: 87.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.30146, Last trade: 87.99999, 24 hour volume: 313925.64047869, 24 hour low: 63.30000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 82.77727
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Apr 17 15:59:54 <MJR_>	mircea not on?
Apr 17 16:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.76 = 3.52 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 16:03:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00351 = 0.351 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 16:03:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0035 = 0.35 BTC [-]
Apr 17 16:07:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.415 BTC [-]
Apr 17 16:09:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.50267 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 16:22:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.00407 = 0.1221 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 16:23:34 <pgp>	getting word that bitfloor is closing down - i suggest converting fiat to btc and get it the fuck out of there...
Apr 17 16:24:07 <ThickAsThieves>	^^^^^^
Apr 17 16:24:30 <ThickAsThieves>	appreciate the heads up
Apr 17 16:25:33 <pgp>	US is no place to run an exchange - period...
Apr 17 16:26:01 <MJR_>	US is so anti-business
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Apr 17 16:29:08 <pgp>	quiet in here - an exchange is closing and...  crickets....
Apr 17 16:29:14 <deadweasel>	chirp
Apr 17 16:29:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00070731 = 1.1317 BTC [+]
Apr 17 16:29:33 <ThickAsThieves>	that means campbx and who else are probly next?
Apr 17 16:29:40 <deadweasel>	srsly, what exchanges are safe to use?  i haven't vetted any of them.
Apr 17 16:29:54 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like gox is the only game in town
Apr 17 16:30:02 <ThickAsThieves>	btc-e
Apr 17 16:30:08 <deadweasel>	oh yeah
Apr 17 16:30:08 <pgp>	hard to say for sure, but that would be my guess - anyone transacting in FIAT...
Apr 17 16:30:19 <ThickAsThieves>	but everyone thinks btc-e is run by russian mafia or soemthing
Apr 17 16:30:38 <jcpham>	weexchange is run by graet/ukto
Apr 17 16:30:44 <jcpham>	you'll have to make your own market
Apr 17 16:30:48 <jcpham>	though
Apr 17 16:31:00 <pgp>	fiat transactions with BTC-e are VERY difficult and costly...   but they have liquidity
Apr 17 16:31:35 <sturles>	pgp: Where did you get that word?
Apr 17 16:31:43 <pgp>	from mjr
Apr 17 16:31:58 <jborkl>	I have used Cavirtex, did not have a problem
Apr 17 16:32:00 <pgp>	mjr from the source
Apr 17 16:32:13 <joecool>	cavirtex seems pretty solid, volume is pretty low there though
Apr 17 16:32:34 <jborkl>	yeah, you can push the bad\ask around with a small amount
Apr 17 16:32:34 <joecool>	i'm hoping tradehill comes back with its shit together
Apr 17 16:32:40 <jborkl>	bid
Apr 17 16:32:56 <deadweasel>	is gox still asking for papers to remove btc?
Apr 17 16:33:14 <joecool>	only if you flag as a money launderer i guess
Apr 17 16:33:15 <pgp>	the bitfloor situation is gonna make coinlab, tradehill and coinsetter rethink their whole situation
Apr 17 16:33:37 <jcpham>	what is the bitfloor situation?
Apr 17 16:33:50 <ThickAsThieves>	[16:23] <pgp> getting word that bitfloor is closing down - i suggest converting fiat to btc and get it the fuck out of there...
Apr 17 16:33:50 <pgp>	bitfloor is closing down
Apr 17 16:34:07 <pgp>	govt apparently
Apr 17 16:34:22 <jcpham>	ic
Apr 17 16:34:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont bot, can someone tell me the significance of this? https://twitter.com/myselfbtc/status/324609590903853058/photo/1
Apr 17 16:34:42 <sturles>	How about Bitstamp?  Some liquidity at prices usually somewhat lower than MtGox.
Apr 17 16:34:44 <ThickAsThieves>	and https://twitter.com/myselfbtc/status/324607572348899328
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Apr 17 16:35:33 <deadweasel>	um, that is talking about btc-e....
Apr 17 16:35:49 <deadweasel>	are they shuttering too?
Apr 17 16:35:51 <jcpham>	looks like windows ThickAsThieves
Apr 17 16:36:02 <jcpham>	unrelative
Apr 17 16:36:06 <jcpham>	no one uses windows
Apr 17 16:36:25 <deadweasel>	nobody who wants to keep their coins
Apr 17 16:36:42 <Doffx>	;;ticker
Apr 17 16:36:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.06000, Best ask: 89.19998, Bid-ask spread: 0.13998, Last trade: 89.06000, 24 hour volume: 310831.22599933, 24 hour low: 63.30000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 83.34711
Apr 17 16:43:55 <deadweasel>	MJR_: could you give us first hand what you heard?
Apr 17 16:44:16 <MJR_>	well...
Apr 17 16:44:22 <MJR_>	Roman just texted me and said this:
Apr 17 16:45:20 <MJR_>	"Josh. Our bank account will be closed. I will be halting trading soon. Please withdraw and (sic) btc you currently have at bitfloor"
Apr 17 16:45:37 <MJR_>	so...not a lot of info, but you can draw certain conclusions
Apr 17 16:45:52 <MJR_>	from bank account closed, and withdraw btc...that it looks like he is winding down operations
Apr 17 16:45:54 <deadweasel>	awesome, thank you.
Apr 17 16:46:04 <MJR_>	i'm not sure if this is public yet
Apr 17 16:46:11 <MJR_>	and i wouldn't have shared it so broadly
Apr 17 16:46:12 <deadweasel>	i mean, shitty, but thank you for passing along.
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Apr 17 16:46:16 <MJR_>	of course no prob
Apr 17 16:46:21 <MJR_>	he's a really nice guy
Apr 17 16:46:29 <pgp>	agreed
Apr 17 16:46:43 <MJR_>	and i'm sure he will find something in the btc space, he does have some serious skills...i mean he ran that exchange all by himself
Apr 17 16:46:51 <MJR_>	and did better than mt gox for the most part in my opinion
Apr 17 16:47:04 <deadweasel>	sweet, just got confirms on my withdraw.
Apr 17 16:47:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.0035 = 0.875 BTC [-]
Apr 17 16:47:42 <deadweasel>	it was a great platform.
Apr 17 16:47:49 <deadweasel>	simple and quick!
Apr 17 16:47:56 <deadweasel>	:'(
Apr 17 16:47:58 <ThickAsThieves>	i did like how some of it worked
Apr 17 16:48:10 <pgp>	we'll see - maybe it will live on in a foriegn jurisdiction...
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Apr 17 16:48:33 <ThickAsThieves>	so i wonder what will happen to Dwolla
Apr 17 16:48:34 <ThickAsThieves>	and when
Apr 17 16:48:53 <Doffx>	What would happen to Dwolla?
Apr 17 16:49:01 <ThickAsThieves>	they are a pretty big player in all this "money laundering"
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Apr 17 16:49:19 <pgp>	bitfloor doesn't deal with dwolla, btw...
Apr 17 16:49:23 <ThickAsThieves>	i know
Apr 17 16:49:25 <Doffx>	I dont think so, they a pretty compliant with the banks
Apr 17 16:49:33 <Doffx>	And Dwolla is hella slow
Apr 17 16:49:43 <ThickAsThieves>	its fast to cash out with
Apr 17 16:49:50 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 17 16:49:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
Apr 17 16:50:06 <MJR_>	i think traditional bank wire is the way to go...
Apr 17 16:50:07 <Doffx>	Still takes 3-4 days
Apr 17 16:50:17 <MJR_>	limits the size of investments to amounts you care about
Apr 17 16:50:28 <pgp>	Dwolla may decide not to do business with US bicoin businesses...  dunno...
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Apr 17 16:50:46 <MJR_>	the US is basically withdrawing any bridges...pretty soon it may be an island
Apr 17 16:51:31 <ThickAsThieves>	better be a nice island if they want people to stay
Apr 17 16:51:51 <pgp>	lol
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Apr 17 16:52:19 <deadweasel>	it's not
Apr 17 16:52:37 <pgp>	does bitfunder deal in fiat?
Apr 17 16:53:05 <deadweasel>	they are squeezing all fiat pipes into bitcoin.
Apr 17 16:53:10 <deadweasel>	no, bitfunder doesn't
Apr 17 16:53:10 <ThickAsThieves>	sorta
Apr 17 16:53:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
Apr 17 16:53:20 <deadweasel>	they do?
Apr 17 16:53:22 <ThickAsThieves>	it has fiat-derived assets
Apr 17 16:53:34 <ThickAsThieves>	that are directly transferable
Apr 17 16:53:38 <error4733>	!bids 0
Apr 17 16:53:38 <ThickAsThieves>	to fiat in Weex
Apr 17 16:53:51 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 16:53:51 <deadweasel>	is weex in the us?
Apr 17 16:53:51 <gribble>	There are currently 58990783 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 18116195.4486 USD in total. | Data vintage: 61.3313 seconds
Apr 17 16:54:08 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not sure where either is registered
Apr 17 16:54:12 <ThickAsThieves>	but owner lives in US
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Apr 17 16:55:05 <deadweasel>	crap.  fuck this country.  get me out.  somewhere that the police accept btc bribes..
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Apr 17 16:55:13 <jedunnigan>	lol
Apr 17 16:55:20 <pgp>	lol
Apr 17 16:55:23 <MJR_>	thjat is why i don't use bitfunder
Apr 17 16:55:29 <pgp>	that'll be the day..
Apr 17 16:55:33 <MJR_>	i don't like weexchange
Apr 17 16:55:41 <MJR_>	just another step, kinda a hassle
Apr 17 16:55:45 <pgp>	hate the name
Apr 17 16:55:48 <MJR_>	who else offers fix connections
Apr 17 16:55:52 <MJR_>	pgp: this
Apr 17 16:55:58 <MJR_>	i hate the name too
Apr 17 16:56:14 <MJR_>	i am a big fan of BIG DISCLAIMERS, and letting people do what they want
Apr 17 16:56:32 <MJR_>	forcing long passwords, forcing 2 factor, forcing random characters...decreases security
Apr 17 16:56:53 <MJR_>	increases your customer service budget
Apr 17 16:57:18 <jurov>	meh. customers fuck up even if you allw anything
Apr 17 16:57:23 <MJR_>	http://xkcd.com/936/
Apr 17 16:57:34 <MJR_>	they will...
Apr 17 16:57:39 <MJR_>	but if they forget their own password
Apr 17 16:57:42 <MJR_>	or write it down
Apr 17 16:57:45 <MJR_>	its worse
Apr 17 16:58:02 <jurov>	why not write it down?
Apr 17 16:58:06 <jedunnigan>	so what do u suggest MJR
Apr 17 16:58:22 <jedunnigan>	ohic now, nm
Apr 17 16:58:46 <MJR_>	my point is this...if you tell people they can't use the password they want...they will forget it
Apr 17 16:58:50 <deadweasel>	tell me again, ukto runs bitfunder?
Apr 17 16:58:59 <jurov>	deadweasel yes
Apr 17 16:59:02 <MJR_>	they will either leave a sticky note, put it in a drawer, leave an unencrypted file...
Apr 17 16:59:07 <deadweasel>	lol, thx for the 12th time.
Apr 17 16:59:34 <MJR_>	all of those decrease your security orders of magnitude more than just letting them not use an @ symbol instead of an a
Apr 17 16:59:37 <jedunnigan>	one of the pitfalls of an undereducated user base. not much you can do really
Apr 17 16:59:41 <deadweasel>	is coinbr completely separated from fiat?
Apr 17 16:59:42 <MJR_>	exactly
Apr 17 16:59:47 <MJR_>	so that is my point
Apr 17 16:59:51 <MJR_>	you put big disclaimers
Apr 17 16:59:53 <MJR_>	scary
Apr 17 16:59:57 <MJR_>	and then let them do as they want
Apr 17 17:00:06 <jedunnigan>	but implementing a system that lets users pick what they want would be quite difficult, i imagine
Apr 17 17:00:15 <jurov>	deadweasel yes
Apr 17 17:00:19 <MJR_>	and ironically, they will be safer than if you try and enforce your idea of a good password on them
Apr 17 17:00:30 <MJR_>	jedunnigan: letting them choose their own password?
Apr 17 17:00:30 <jedunnigan>	and would undermine the security of the users who use the higher level security functionality
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Apr 17 17:00:43 <jedunnigan>	no, letting them choose between all the differnt types of authentication
Apr 17 17:01:13 <jedunnigan>	i may have misread you earlier, but thats what it seemed like you were getting at
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Apr 17 17:01:23 <MJR_>	nah, just saying give them the option to use 2 factor
Apr 17 17:01:29 <MJR_>	give them the option to use @ and 0
Apr 17 17:01:34 <MJR_>	but don't force them to
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Apr 17 17:02:16 <jedunnigan>	ic. i understand how it ups the custie service costs if you force complicated authennticaiton but not how it makes it less secure
Apr 17 17:03:13 <jedunnigan>	u said write a pw down, leave an unencrypted file etfc... but thats still better then using the same PW they use for the aol account from 1995
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Apr 17 17:07:05 <ThickAsThieves>	btw, my brother registered for account verification on gox about a week ago, his position has moved about 10000 spots
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Apr 17 17:07:21 <punkman>	my bank forces me to use a 5 char password
Apr 17 17:07:28 <ThickAsThieves>	so gox is verifying about 1500/day
Apr 17 17:07:34 <jedunnigan>	not bad
Apr 17 17:07:40 <jedunnigan>	lol @punkman
Apr 17 17:08:25 <punkman>	and they also force me to change it every few weeks, so annoying
Apr 17 17:08:37 <jedunnigan>	what bank, if i may
Apr 17 17:08:47 <punkman>	just a random EU bank
Apr 17 17:08:53 <jedunnigan>	ic
Apr 17 17:09:27 <punkman>	they do have hardware tokens of course
Apr 17 17:09:59 <punkman>	ah and their website only worked in IE, cherry on top
Apr 17 17:10:09 <jedunnigan>	AHA
Apr 17 17:10:14 <jedunnigan>	classic
Apr 17 17:10:38 <ThickAsThieves>	my bank asks me to install some ridic security software EVERY time i log in
Apr 17 17:10:51 <jedunnigan>	sketchy
Apr 17 17:10:53 <punkman>	ThickAsThieves: that's a great idea
Apr 17 17:10:58 <ThickAsThieves>	in addition to pw and secret questions
Apr 17 17:11:41 <ThickAsThieves>	this was their solution after massive complaints about fobs
Apr 17 17:11:42 <jurov>	looking forward to everyone having Trezor
Apr 17 17:12:27 <MJR_>	yeah...
Apr 17 17:12:38 <MJR_>	i think unencrypted file with password is just about the absolute worst
Apr 17 17:13:22 <jedunnigan>	hadnt heard of trezor till now... looks legit
Apr 17 17:13:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.003795 = 0.2277 BTC [+]
Apr 17 17:14:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 102 @ 0.0038 = 0.3876 BTC [+]
Apr 17 17:14:18 <jurov>	yes, it's legit, i know these people personally
Apr 17 17:14:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003949 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 17:15:34 <jedunnigan>	are they in funding stage?
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Apr 17 17:15:42 <ThickAsThieves>	FYI, Weex info: http://weexchange.co/?page=helpcontact
Apr 17 17:15:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-]
Apr 17 17:15:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
Apr 17 17:15:56 <ThickAsThieves>	based in Australia, mailing address in US
Apr 17 17:16:00 <jedunnigan>	oh no, in production already
Apr 17 17:16:12 <jurov>	jedunnigan: they fund it themselves
Apr 17 17:16:14 <ThickAsThieves>	US toll free #
Apr 17 17:16:22 <jurov>	already held in hand 3d printed cover
Apr 17 17:16:56 <jedunnigan>	yea looks like they are making moves
Apr 17 17:17:06 <jedunnigan>	too bad no kickstarter or anything.
Apr 17 17:17:12 <jurov>	why not?
Apr 17 17:17:20 <jurov>	er, why it's bad?
Apr 17 17:17:28 <MJR_>	hmmmm
Apr 17 17:17:29 <jedunnigan>	i'd love to help out.
Apr 17 17:17:33 <MJR_>	has anyone heard of chase p2p
Apr 17 17:17:42 <jedunnigan>	ah they take donations, though
Apr 17 17:17:42 <MJR_>	i wonder if you could use that as a type of deposit method
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Apr 17 17:18:38 <MJR_>	what sort of aml do they have on that?
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Apr 17 17:19:54 <MJR_>	who here is a node.js pro?
Apr 17 17:21:50 <Scrat>	<-
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Apr 17 17:25:53 <kakobrekla>	hi
Apr 17 17:27:30 <ThickAsThieves>	hi
Apr 17 17:28:02 <ThickAsThieves>	kako, in cased you missed it, bitfloor is shutting down
Apr 17 17:28:09 <ThickAsThieves>	if you happen to use it, get out
Apr 17 17:28:31 <kakobrekla>	oh wow
Apr 17 17:28:34 <kakobrekla>	urlpls?
Apr 17 17:28:34 <troc_>	why is bf shutting down ?
Apr 17 17:29:00 <ThickAsThieves>	please use full name to avoid confusion with bitfunder
Apr 17 17:29:09 <kakobrekla>	:D
Apr 17 17:29:29 <ThickAsThieves>	bitfloor header: "Trading will be suspended at 6 PM EST on 2013.04.17. We ask that all users finish any trades they wish to complete and cancel any open trades."
Apr 17 17:29:35 <troc_>	any ideas why  bitfloor is shutting down ?
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Apr 17 17:29:55 <ThickAsThieves>	nothing solid yet
Apr 17 17:30:12 <ThickAsThieves>	likely gov pressure
Apr 17 17:30:16 <MJR_>	kakobrekla: roman texted me earlier and told me to get my btc out
Apr 17 17:30:25 <MJR_>	text above...or i can copy it again
Apr 17 17:31:01 <kakobrekla>	repaste pls, its out of my bnc history
Apr 17 17:31:03 <ThickAsThieves>	[16:44] <MJR_> Roman just texted me and said this:
Apr 17 17:31:03 <ThickAsThieves>	[16:45] <MJR_> "Josh. Our bank account will be closed. I will be halting trading soon. Please withdraw and (sic) btc you currently have at bitfloor"
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Apr 17 17:31:25 <kakobrekla>	so, fiat problems?
Apr 17 17:31:41 <kakobrekla>	what did i say 2 days ago about fiat exchange
Apr 17 17:31:50 <ThickAsThieves>	its a fiat world, we're just living in it
Apr 17 17:31:51 <troc_>	  they don't have cash for lawyers ?
Apr 17 17:31:52 <MJR_>	yep
Apr 17 17:32:03 <MJR_>	just go offshore
Apr 17 17:32:12 <MJR_>	you don't have to live offshore to run an offshore business
Apr 17 17:32:18 <kakobrekla>	not sure if that solves everything?
Apr 17 17:33:23 <ThickAsThieves>	wasnt good enough for erik voorhees
Apr 17 17:33:23 <troc_>	earlier today : <pgp> bf ACH is one day turn around - pretty damn good if you asked me
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Apr 17 17:36:44 <kakobrekla>	ThickAsThieves
Apr 17 17:36:49 <kakobrekla>	what wasnt good enough for erik
Apr 17 17:36:51 <kakobrekla>	he doesnt deal fiat
Apr 17 17:36:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i meant,
Apr 17 17:37:10 <ThickAsThieves>	registering outside of country, and living in US
Apr 17 17:37:13 <ThickAsThieves>	wasnt good enough
Apr 17 17:37:16 <ThickAsThieves>	he still moved
Apr 17 17:37:19 <ThickAsThieves>	out of country
Apr 17 17:37:27 <ThickAsThieves>	I assume not just for the weather
Apr 17 17:37:31 <kakobrekla>	well
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Apr 17 17:37:39 <troc_>	even writing code for gambling can get you in trouble !
Apr 17 17:37:50 <kakobrekla>	as i said, one must be nuts to start fiat exchange
Apr 17 17:37:51 <kakobrekla>	or
Apr 17 17:37:53 <troc_>	or a stop over on a flight
Apr 17 17:37:53 <kakobrekla>	to live in america
Apr 17 17:37:55 <kakobrekla>	same shit.
Apr 17 17:38:03 <Scrat>	land of the free
Apr 17 17:38:09 <kakobrekla>	mhm
Apr 17 17:38:20 <ThickAsThieves>	so what westernized country would you suggest
Apr 17 17:38:27 <troc_>	malta ?
Apr 17 17:38:34 <Scrat>	northern yurop
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Apr 17 17:38:38 <kakobrekla>	cyprus ofc!
Apr 17 17:38:50 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
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Apr 17 17:39:12 <ThickAsThieves>	how's switzerland?
Apr 17 17:39:16 <kakobrekla>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 17 17:39:17 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 hours and 46 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> i've yet to step in lawnmower shit.
Apr 17 17:39:39 <Scrat>	swiss sure do love their banks
Apr 17 17:39:44 <troc_>	macau ?
Apr 17 17:40:50 <ThickAsThieves>	swiss seem to have a pretty strong economy last i checked
Apr 17 17:41:09 <kakobrekla>	chocholates aint bad too
Apr 17 17:41:20 <kakobrekla>	swiss ones.
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Apr 17 17:42:14 <ThickAsThieves>	yay someone is dumping
Apr 17 17:42:25 <kakobrekla>	drop in the sea :\
Apr 17 17:42:32 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Apr 17 17:43:56 <ThickAsThieves>	bitfloor sending emails too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179135
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Apr 17 17:46:33 <ThickAsThieves>	sdice pulled 900btc today
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Apr 17 17:47:59 <ThickAsThieves>	would be funny if bitfloor price rise due to this causes rise on other exchanges
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Apr 17 17:49:17 <ThickAsThieves>	is there a way to see full orderbook on bitfloor?
Apr 17 17:49:46 <ThickAsThieves>	up to 98
Apr 17 17:50:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.28 = 11.52 BTC [-]
Apr 17 17:52:16 <orkaa>	http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/all/
Apr 17 17:52:16 <orkaa>	heh
Apr 17 17:52:25 <orkaa>	bit floor going out of ordinary a bit
Apr 17 17:52:36 <kakobrekla>	bitfloor is closing down orkaa
Apr 17 17:52:42 <orkaa>	yeah, i know
Apr 17 17:52:53 <kakobrekla>	k
Apr 17 17:53:08 <kakobrekla>	people buying coins with fiat
Apr 17 17:53:11 <kakobrekla>	taking coins out
Apr 17 17:53:16 <kakobrekla>	making price go up
Apr 17 17:53:19 <kakobrekla>	simple
Apr 17 17:53:20 <orkaa>	mhm
Apr 17 17:53:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 17:54:30 <orkaa>	i guess they don't support bit instant?
Apr 17 17:54:59 <orkaa>	why is my irc client inserting spaces
Apr 17 17:55:19 <kakobrekla>	cause mac
Apr 17 17:55:26 <kakobrekla>	macfag.
Apr 17 17:55:45 <thestringpuller>	money is moving out of AAPL and into btc
Apr 17 17:55:50 <orkaa>	i actually paid for this app
Apr 17 17:55:53 <Scrat>	let AAPL die
Apr 17 17:56:00 <kakobrekla>	you also paid for stupid shit like apple
Apr 17 17:56:02 <kakobrekla>	so what?
Apr 17 17:56:02 <Scrat>	in fire
Apr 17 17:56:06 <thestringpuller>	huh?
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Apr 17 17:56:11 <abaue>	hey
Apr 17 17:56:15 <kakobrekla>	hi
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Apr 17 17:56:40 <Namworld>	Hello
Apr 17 17:56:45 <Scrat>	in his defense however, MBPs are pretty sweet
Apr 17 17:56:46 <kakobrekla>	Scrat, apples dont burn all that well, just leave it rot
Apr 17 17:56:55 <thestringpuller>	a couple hundred million was pulled from AAPL, btc has gone up, so it feels like money is moving
Apr 17 17:56:55 <kakobrekla>	lol wat
Apr 17 17:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.33 = 3.3 BTC [+]
Apr 17 17:57:05 <Scrat>	no other fucking manufacturer has realized that you dont have to put stickers and spyware on every fucking laptop
Apr 17 17:57:14 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 17 17:57:15 <kakobrekla>	LOL
Apr 17 17:57:16 <orkaa>	Scrat, don't try to enter this debate with kakobrekla
Apr 17 17:57:19 <orkaa>	seriously
Apr 17 17:57:23 <kakobrekla>	cause it ends with ban
Apr 17 17:57:27 <Scrat>	dude, im like apple hater #1
Apr 17 17:57:28 <orkaa>	i tried several times
Apr 17 17:57:31 <Scrat>	but MBPs are nice
Apr 17 17:57:32 <orkaa>	he's an asshole
Apr 17 17:57:35 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 17 17:57:35 <orkaa>	:))
Apr 17 17:57:46 <kakobrekla>	magfags like to be assraped
Apr 17 17:57:46 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekl is that what she said?
Apr 17 17:57:48 <kakobrekla>	their problem.
Apr 17 17:57:49 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 17 17:58:41 <kakobrekla>	also my x220 pwns mbp
Apr 17 17:59:04 <ThickAsThieves>	he really didnt give much of a heads up to bitfloor users huh
Apr 17 17:59:09 <ThickAsThieves>	1minute to cash out!
Apr 17 17:59:17 <kakobrekla>	ThickAsThieves that guy is an idiot
Apr 17 17:59:24 <kakobrekla>	we know that since hack #1
Apr 17 17:59:29 <kakobrekla>	but people are bigger idiots
Apr 17 17:59:34 <kakobrekla>	so it is what it is.
Apr 17 18:00:00 <ThickAsThieves>	100
Apr 17 18:00:10 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 17 18:00:13 <ThickAsThieves>	out with a bang
Apr 17 18:00:16 <kakobrekla>	hes gonna start a rally
Apr 17 18:00:18 <kakobrekla>	by accident
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Apr 17 18:03:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
Apr 17 18:04:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.251 BTC [-]
Apr 17 18:04:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.25001 = 5 BTC [-]
Apr 17 18:04:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.25 = 31.25 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 18:06:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.25 = 12.5 BTC [-]
Apr 17 18:09:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [+]
Apr 17 18:15:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 65 @ 0.0028 = 0.182 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 18:15:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00070944 = 4.3276 BTC [+]
Apr 17 18:16:24 <dub>	kakobrekla: pong
Apr 17 18:16:35 <dub>	also X220 REPRAZENT
Apr 17 18:16:49 <dub>	eat shit mac fagbois
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Apr 17 18:17:55 <Scrat>	worse than macfags are oldfags with thinkpads
Apr 17 18:18:26 <iz>	i don't think they are worse
Apr 17 18:18:39 <kakobrekla>	oldfags?
Apr 17 18:18:40 <Scrat>	ok, equally as bad
Apr 17 18:18:42 <kakobrekla>	whats an oldfag?
Apr 17 18:18:47 <Scrat>	40+
Apr 17 18:18:48 <dub>	over 18
Apr 17 18:18:49 <ThickAsThieves>	one that has kids
Apr 17 18:19:03 <ThickAsThieves>	from before it was cool to be gay
Apr 17 18:19:07 <kakobrekla>	so if i make a kid i must sell all my TP gear?
Apr 17 18:19:13 <dub>	stinkpad4lyfe yo
Apr 17 18:19:41 <orkaa>	kakobrekla, that won't be the hardest part, lol
Apr 17 18:20:00 <kakobrekla>	no the hardest part is geting some sanity in your head
Apr 17 18:20:22 <orkaa>	haha
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Apr 17 18:27:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00408 = 0.102 BTC [+]
Apr 17 18:27:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
Apr 17 18:31:35 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 17 18:31:37 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 84.39
Apr 17 18:33:01 <lippoper>	;;ticker
Apr 17 18:33:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.94479, Best ask: 93.39000, Bid-ask spread: 0.44521, Last trade: 93.39999, 24 hour volume: 320897.31878225, 24 hour low: 63.30000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 84.77890
Apr 17 18:34:28 <jurov>	um.. er.. no mac, no thinkpad... so what decent hw do you recommend?
Apr 17 18:35:49 <pigeons>	i don't have a lot of sympathy for people that got bitfloored a second time
Apr 17 18:36:25 <jurov>	i eventually plan to stop embarrassing everyone with my 5y old msi wind U100 :D
Apr 17 18:36:36 <orkaa>	jurov, asus zenbooks should be fine if you're looking for something relatively cheap
Apr 17 18:36:46 <orkaa>	otherwise sony vaio
Apr 17 18:38:32 <orkaa>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Vaio_Z_series
Apr 17 18:38:36 <orkaa>	these are mean machines
Apr 17 18:39:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00409 = 0.0082 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 18:41:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 18:46:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 18:51:27 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --last
Apr 17 18:51:27 <gribble>	92.73000
Apr 17 18:51:31 <kakobrekla>	wrong direction
Apr 17 18:51:40 <kakobrekla>	someone fix it
Apr 17 18:52:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i just rained all over the #bitcoin-anal parade
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Apr 17 18:52:42 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe thatll help
Apr 17 18:52:48 <kakobrekla>	:)
Apr 17 18:53:04 <Doffx>	You want it to go down kakobrekla?
Apr 17 18:54:15 <kakobrekla>	Thats what she said
Apr 17 18:54:27 <ThickAsThieves>	it puts the lotion in the basket
Apr 17 18:54:39 <kakobrekla>	well
Apr 17 18:54:42 <kakobrekla>	im out about 25%
Apr 17 18:54:53 <kakobrekla>	soooo
Apr 17 18:54:57 <kakobrekla>	i want them cheap.
Apr 17 18:55:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
Apr 17 18:55:07 <kakobrekla>	not out of money, out of btc
Apr 17 18:55:12 <kakobrekla>	in fiat
Apr 17 18:55:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0028 BTC [-]
Apr 17 18:55:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm about 50%
Apr 17 18:55:50 <ThickAsThieves>	but probly wonbt cash all in again
Apr 17 18:56:05 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe use half my fiat
Apr 17 18:56:06 <kakobrekla>	im ready to cash back in everything
Apr 17 18:56:09 <kakobrekla>	just not at this price
Apr 17 18:56:11 <ThickAsThieves>	depends how low it goes
Apr 17 18:56:22 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah i just wanna take some profit
Apr 17 18:56:28 <ThickAsThieves>	gonna fund some music projects
Apr 17 18:59:10 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Apr 17 18:59:14 <kakobrekla>	that never makes ev+
Apr 17 18:59:22 <kakobrekla>	well ok sometimes it does
Apr 17 18:59:30 <kakobrekla>	but for average folks, never is good enough
Apr 17 19:01:34 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah its a losing investment
Apr 17 19:01:39 <Scrat>	ThickAsThieves
Apr 17 19:01:41 <Scrat>	fund me!
Apr 17 19:01:43 <ThickAsThieves>	but i might be able to break even
Apr 17 19:01:48 <ThickAsThieves>	what do you do?
Apr 17 19:01:56 <Scrat>	stupid shit :/
Apr 17 19:01:58 <ThickAsThieves>	besides help me steal music
Apr 17 19:02:03 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
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Apr 17 19:04:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Apr 17 19:05:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.21 = 2.42 BTC [-]
Apr 17 19:05:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Apr 17 19:05:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Apr 17 19:06:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 19:11:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 225 @ 0.00382 = 0.8595 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 19:19:20 <peterl>	hi, I have 1 share of ASICMINER I would like to sell, is that the sort of thing I talk about here or in bitcoin-OTC?
Apr 17 19:20:07 <ThickAsThieves>	1?
Apr 17 19:20:31 <orkaa>	bah
Apr 17 19:20:32 <peterl>	yes, I have just 1, bought it on GLBSE just before they closed
Apr 17 19:20:34 <orkaa>	internets failing
Apr 17 19:20:39 <peterl>	was going to buy more
Apr 17 19:20:49 <ThickAsThieves>	probly try the forums
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Apr 17 19:21:21 <peterl>	seems kinda silly to make a new forum thread for just 1 share though
Apr 17 19:21:27 <deadweasel>	no, it's not.
Apr 17 19:21:29 <deadweasel>	do an auction!
Apr 17 19:21:32 <deadweasel>	:D
Apr 17 19:21:40 <peterl>	ok, I'll put it up
Apr 17 19:21:42 <deadweasel>	forums are full of gobshite anyway.
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Apr 17 19:22:12 <kakobrekla>	cannot belive it
Apr 17 19:22:26 <kakobrekla>	idiots at bitstamp getting positive reviews just cause mtgox is even bigger idiot
Apr 17 19:22:27 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38711.220;topicseen
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Apr 17 19:22:36 <kakobrekla>	i am losing faith here!
Apr 17 19:23:08 <orkaa>	hehe
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Apr 17 19:23:22 <orkaa>	i only yesterday found out the real meaning of mtgox
Apr 17 19:23:28 <kakobrekla>	its not funny
Apr 17 19:23:29 <orkaa>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172615.0
Apr 17 19:23:33 <kakobrekla>	also the real meaning is not funny
Apr 17 19:23:35 <deadweasel>	that's a faith killer orkaa
Apr 17 19:23:39 <kakobrekla>	nothing funny anymore!
Apr 17 19:24:35 <kakobrekla>	also lol dat thread
Apr 17 19:24:43 <kakobrekla>	>P.S.: Congrats Proudhon, you were finally right!
Apr 17 19:24:45 <kakobrekla>	FINALLY!
Apr 17 19:25:05 <kakobrekla>	statistically he should have been right sooner, on average
Apr 17 19:25:06 <kakobrekla>	idiot.
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Apr 17 19:25:42 <ThickAsThieves>	i def was overwhelmed by the waves of idiocy today
Apr 17 19:25:45 <peterl>	Proudhon was right, so we are in single digits?
Apr 17 19:25:45 <kakobrekla>	sorry im menstruating today
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Apr 17 19:26:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i wasnt sure if hit my head in my sleep or something
Apr 17 19:26:13 <deadweasel>	i can see that by the stream of red in irssi.
Apr 17 19:26:29 <kakobrekla>	are you being highlighted by 'idiot' ?
Apr 17 19:26:34 <kakobrekla>	jk :)
Apr 17 19:27:10 <peterl>	alright, I posted an auction for 1 share of Asicminer, lets see how high it will go :)
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Apr 17 19:27:47 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 17 19:27:51 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 17 19:28:37 <peterl>	Do I need to do something like sign a message with the address proving I own the share, or is that just overkill?
Apr 17 19:28:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i suggest, "Will someone please please buy my one share without asking me if I really only have 1?" rather than an auction
Apr 17 19:28:43 <Scrat>	grats, you're going to be filthy rich
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Apr 17 19:31:21 <kakobrekla>	;;rate gigavps -1 gigamining scam [courtesy of orkaa]
Apr 17 19:31:22 <gribble>	Error: "courtesy" is not a valid command.
Apr 17 19:31:33 <kakobrekla>	what
Apr 17 19:31:43 <kakobrekla>	;;rate gigavps -1 gigamining scam (courtesy of orkaa)
Apr 17 19:31:44 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user gigavps has been recorded.
Apr 17 19:31:48 <kakobrekla>	tyvm
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Apr 17 19:34:04 <orkaa>	:)
Apr 17 19:34:09 <kakobrekla>	;;rate phantomcircuit -1 selling a service that doesnt work, scammer
Apr 17 19:34:10 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user phantomcircuit has been recorded.
Apr 17 19:34:53 <kakobrekla>	nuff for now
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Apr 17 19:38:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 19:38:50 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 19:38:53 <gribble>	There are currently 58929165 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 18611240.9266 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0108 seconds
Apr 17 19:39:15 <altoz>	;;asks 9999999
Apr 17 19:39:16 <gribble>	There are currently 133765.92 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999.0 USD, worth 175176222.716 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.2678 seconds
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Apr 17 19:53:52 <kakobrekla>	hm i just found out theres no more bull infront of NYSE?
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Apr 17 19:55:39 <asciilifeform>	kakobrekla: this leaves just one question, of when the bear will be installed.
Apr 17 19:56:02 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 17 19:58:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Apr 17 19:59:56 <peterl>	Should they get the NoBull prize?
Apr 17 20:00:13 <kakobrekla>	o, you the lambert guy?
Apr 17 20:00:23 <peterl>	Yeah, that's me :)
Apr 17 20:00:25 <kakobrekla>	welcome :)
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Apr 17 20:14:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1588 BTC [+]
Apr 17 20:14:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.1589 = 1.1123 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 20:25:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8860 @ 0.00069826 = 6.1866 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 20:29:30 <ThickAsThieves>	Diablo, looks ike you had good timing on that auction
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Apr 17 20:30:46 <guruvan>	16:42 < kakobrekla> ;;rate phantomcircuit -1 selling a service that doesnt work, scammer
Apr 17 20:30:57 <guruvan>	what service is that kakobrekla ?
Apr 17 20:31:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i think web hosting?
Apr 17 20:31:55 <ThickAsThieves>	VPS
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Apr 17 20:32:26 <guruvan>	mmm. I sure wouldn't trust that guy with anything that help or transported my data
Apr 17 20:33:00 <ThickAsThieves>	so does everyone in bitcoin-anal hate me now?
Apr 17 20:33:31 <guruvan>	lol - you seem to have been the toke bear to beat on :D
Apr 17 20:33:37 <guruvan>	token
Apr 17 20:33:38 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 17 20:33:50 <ThickAsThieves>	i was tempted to log in on another account to see my whipping
Apr 17 20:34:10 <guruvan>	and, while I disagree with your mid term view - I think it's super healthy to have the discussion and debate
Apr 17 20:34:45 <guruvan>	if it's all one-sided analysis then the idiots in the room trade on what other people say, and get pissed when they lose
Apr 17 20:35:02 <troc_>	calling it analysis is wrong;  you can't analyse the future.
Apr 17 20:35:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i wasnt
Apr 17 20:35:26 <ThickAsThieves>	i think i was just sparked by all the "should i do this or that" kinda comments
Apr 17 20:35:32 <troc_>	their channel name
Apr 17 20:35:33 <guruvan>	no - you analyse the /past/ and make plans for the future potentials
Apr 17 20:35:38 <ThickAsThieves>	some guys did have good arguments
Apr 17 20:35:44 <ThickAsThieves>	some were like NO U!
Apr 17 20:35:54 <kakobrekla>	anything worth copy pasting?
Apr 17 20:35:59 <guruvan>	lol - it's teh internetz
Apr 17 20:36:01 <ThickAsThieves>	not really
Apr 17 20:36:08 <kakobrekla>	guruvan mostly that vps service
Apr 17 20:36:14 <ThickAsThieves>	i do think i got some people thinking twice at least
Apr 17 20:36:30 <kakobrekla>	not that im using it but i did have a short use for it
Apr 17 20:36:35 *	guruvan has a very unfavorable opinion of phantomcircuit
Apr 17 20:36:36 <kakobrekla>	and it was crap de la crap
Apr 17 20:36:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.181 BTC [-]
Apr 17 20:37:07 <kakobrekla>	he has no space in bitcoin world
Apr 17 20:37:07 <ThickAsThieves>	kako, on the forums your english seems broken but in here, not, troll modes?
Apr 17 20:37:11 <guruvan>	ThickAsThieves: as well you should have - it's really not clear what's about to happen, and people shouldn't trade on what one or two people say
Apr 17 20:37:23 <kakobrekla>	humm ThickAsThieves?
Apr 17 20:37:26 <kakobrekla>	url?
Apr 17 20:38:20 <guruvan>	yah kako I have to agree - that dude should be run out on a rail
Apr 17 20:38:38 <guruvan>	;;rated phantomcircuit
Apr 17 20:38:45 <kakobrekla>	ok so is bitcoin goin up or down
Apr 17 20:38:47 <kakobrekla>	pls say down
Apr 17 20:38:50 <kakobrekla>	or ill be pissed
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Apr 17 20:39:08 <ThickAsThieves>	"Low as always."
Apr 17 20:39:20 <ThickAsThieves>	" but I shut it off because of not much movements happed back then "
Apr 17 20:39:21 <kakobrekla>	heh
Apr 17 20:39:30 <guruvan>	I think it's a bear trap, and it turned out OneFixt agreed - but.. ThickAsThieves sees it very differently
Apr 17 20:39:50 <kakobrekla>	well
Apr 17 20:39:58 <ThickAsThieves>	just typos i gues
Apr 17 20:39:59 <ThickAsThieves>	s
Apr 17 20:40:13 <kakobrekla>	if we are talking about bear trap ... that is in the past
Apr 17 20:40:17 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 17 20:40:30 <guruvan>	no IMO this whole drop is a giant one
Apr 17 20:40:46 <guruvan>	there's little ones set throughout it
Apr 17 20:40:55 <guruvan>	50 is gone buh bye
Apr 17 20:41:19 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not sure if you can call dip this large and long a "bear trap"
Apr 17 20:42:00 <kakobrekla>	dammit
Apr 17 20:42:08 <guruvan>	ThickAsThieves: this is small on the large scale
Apr 17 20:42:09 <kakobrekla>	looks like ima gonna lose the bet
Apr 17 20:42:13 <kakobrekla>	not cool
Apr 17 20:42:15 <guruvan>	a speed bump
Apr 17 20:42:15 <ThickAsThieves>	a trap has to be pretty quick to catch something
Apr 17 20:42:34 <guruvan>	it will be quick for the depth of the swing
Apr 17 20:42:45 <ThickAsThieves>	lose what bet?
Apr 17 20:42:49 <guruvan>	we'll be out of this hole in less than a month I bet
Apr 17 20:42:54 <troc_>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 20:42:56 <gribble>	There are currently 58928967 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 18719666.8921 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.8143 seconds
Apr 17 20:42:59 <ThickAsThieves>	so you think in 30 days we'll be at what?
Apr 17 20:43:21 <ThickAsThieves>	modestly
Apr 17 20:43:29 <guruvan>	can't say - but I suspect within the month we'll be trying to break the 260 resistance
Apr 17 20:43:43 <kakobrekla>	nah
Apr 17 20:43:45 <ThickAsThieves>	really?
Apr 17 20:43:47 <guruvan>	call me crazy
Apr 17 20:43:53 <kakobrekla>	ill go bet that
Apr 17 20:43:53 <ThickAsThieves>	wanna put money behind that?
Apr 17 20:43:54 <kakobrekla>	:D
Apr 17 20:44:01 <guruvan>	but I see sufficient new money that 2.6 billion is NOTHIN
Apr 17 20:44:11 <Scrat>	i see money
Apr 17 20:44:14 <Scrat>	i dont see trust
Apr 17 20:44:31 <guruvan>	I might put a bitbet up
Apr 17 20:44:33 <guruvan>	:D
Apr 17 20:44:36 <kakobrekla>	:D
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Apr 17 20:44:42 <Scrat>	8=D
Apr 17 20:44:46 *	guruvan owns some shares 
Apr 17 20:44:49 <Scrat>	chodemode
Apr 17 20:44:55 <guruvan>	haha
Apr 17 20:45:21 <kakobrekla>	:)
Apr 17 20:45:51 <guruvan>	you guys better kick betsofbitcoin's ass
Apr 17 20:45:54 <guruvan>	:D
Apr 17 20:46:02 <kakobrekla>	are we not doing that already?
Apr 17 20:46:26 <guruvan>	oh - I dunno yet. Have a twitter feed of bets?
Apr 17 20:46:33 <kakobrekla>	sure do
Apr 17 20:46:43 <kakobrekla>	you should render the page before asking :)
Apr 17 20:47:00 <kakobrekla>	but speaking of bb
Apr 17 20:47:04 <kakobrekla>	im working on a new interface
Apr 17 20:47:04 <guruvan>	I don't have that much RAM or bandwith at home
Apr 17 20:47:07 <kakobrekla>	no dates yet
Apr 17 20:47:15 <kakobrekla>	but it will be ... even better!
Apr 17 20:47:32 <joeykrim>	kakobrekla, i like the simple interface to submit new bets!
Apr 17 20:47:36 <guruvan>	right on! It's nice but it could entice more people into betting
Apr 17 20:47:47 <kakobrekla>	joeykrim, ty :)
Apr 17 20:48:30 <guruvan>	kakobrekla: all I have is this awful satellite connection w/ 1500ms latency at home...
Apr 17 20:48:47 <kakobrekla>	myea :\
Apr 17 20:48:53 <guruvan>	lol
Apr 17 20:49:09 <guruvan>	I kicked myself for not getting a new phone last week
Apr 17 20:49:11 <kakobrekla>	you need bitbet api to read it?
Apr 17 20:49:26 <guruvan>	yah!
Apr 17 20:49:32 <kakobrekla>	mkay
Apr 17 20:49:36 <kakobrekla>	ill add to todo
Apr 17 20:49:41 <guruvan>	ther'es an aPI?!
Apr 17 20:49:48 <guruvan>	omg...that'd be rad
Apr 17 20:49:50 <kakobrekla>	not yet i guess :)
Apr 17 20:49:57 <kakobrekla>	sure
Apr 17 20:50:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Apr 17 20:50:16 <kakobrekla>	maybe next week
Apr 17 20:50:17 <guruvan>	man - just a simple one to pull the bets and stats...there's huge data in there
Apr 17 20:50:25 <kakobrekla>	i am not at home till sunday
Apr 17 20:50:34 <guruvan>	cool.
Apr 17 20:50:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.16 = 0.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 20:50:53 <guruvan>	oh hey - how the hacking BTC/USD into MT4 coming?
Apr 17 20:51:07 <guruvan>	we're about to pony up to bit4x
Apr 17 20:51:18 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 17 20:51:23 <kakobrekla>	well, working on it
Apr 17 20:51:29 <kakobrekla>	but... its a HUGE deal.
Apr 17 20:51:37 <guruvan>	I've been dying to do that for a while now...it's 10BTC min acct now?
Apr 17 20:51:43 <kakobrekla>	so i cant say much :\
Apr 17 20:51:55 <guruvan>	I can only imagine how hard it must be to hack that into the broker side
Apr 17 20:51:56 <kakobrekla>	yes 10 btc is min for live acc now
Apr 17 20:52:05 <guruvan>	sweeet
Apr 17 20:52:37 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Apr 17 20:52:43 <kakobrekla>	i noticed a rush of forex traders
Apr 17 20:52:47 <kakobrekla>	in the last 14 days or so
Apr 17 20:53:01 <kakobrekla>	opening bitcoin denominated accounts, but they are slow
Apr 17 20:54:05 <joeykrim>	how do you know they're forex traders?
Apr 17 20:54:07 <guruvan>	see - that's the type of people putting new money in BTC now...and that's why I think they (the big players interested) have the ability skill and knowledge to trap some early bitcoin adopters in a bear trap
Apr 17 20:54:56 <Scrat>	always thought that forex is a tax on stupidity, just like the national lottery
Apr 17 20:55:12 <Scrat>	does anyone even make consistent profits trading forex?
Apr 17 20:55:15 <guruvan>	they all came in after max kaiser was on Alex Jones /raving/ about bitcoin
Apr 17 20:55:25 <Scrat>	(btcusd doesnt count)
Apr 17 20:55:34 <guruvan>	90% of all forex traders lose all their money
Apr 17 20:55:44 <Scrat>	more like 99.9%
Apr 17 20:55:50 <guruvan>	Scrat: yes, but they're really rare
Apr 17 20:56:03 *	guruvan is conservative
Apr 17 20:56:03 <Scrat>	0.01% are the AI phDs working for large firms
Apr 17 20:56:23 <kakobrekla>	the ratio is bad, but its not that bad
Apr 17 20:56:35 <kakobrekla>	but hey im biased so dont listen to me
Apr 17 20:56:44 <joeykrim>	not really AIs, more like "quant" PhDs ...
Apr 17 20:57:17 <guruvan>	kakobrekla: your account minimum is very high - it's harder to lose all your money with $1k USD start balance than $100
Apr 17 20:57:34 <guruvan>	really - it's very smart IMO to have high mins
Apr 17 20:58:05 <guruvan>	$100 is gone in nothing flat with the slightest amount of drawdown
Apr 17 20:59:02 <guruvan>	I have a couple awesome EAs I wanna turn lose on BTC/USD
Apr 17 21:01:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [+]
Apr 17 21:02:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.23 = 2.46 BTC [+]
Apr 17 21:03:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.26 = 6.3 BTC [+]
Apr 17 21:07:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.16 = 0.64 BTC [+]
Apr 17 21:08:12 <kakobrekla>	guruvan on which pairs are they runing now
Apr 17 21:09:15 <kakobrekla>	guruvan you can put those on and make btc with em
Apr 17 21:09:18 <guruvan>	Oh - I'm not running my EAs live right now. My fave is my S&R EA
Apr 17 21:09:35 <kakobrekla>	anyway btc is rising, not happy, off to bed.
Apr 17 21:09:38 <guruvan>	but yeah - that guy would make money on ANYTHING
Apr 17 21:09:43 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 17 21:09:45 <guruvan>	night
Apr 17 21:09:50 <kakobrekla>	S&R ?
Apr 17 21:10:03 <kakobrekla>	search and rescue? :)
Apr 17 21:10:13 <guruvan>	support & resistance - it just draws lines on the chart and trades off 'em
Apr 17 21:10:39 <kakobrekla>	why are you not running it live
Apr 17 21:10:51 <guruvan>	my acct isn't funded ;)
Apr 17 21:10:59 <kakobrekla>	:\
Apr 17 21:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.45 = 1.8 BTC [-]
Apr 17 21:11:03 <kakobrekla>	a well.
Apr 17 21:11:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
Apr 17 21:11:06 <guruvan>	we were about to when everthing dumped
Apr 17 21:11:23 <guruvan>	but we cleaned up on altcoins in the dump - and have BTC for the acct now
Apr 17 21:11:59 <kakobrekla>	:)
Apr 17 21:12:14 <kakobrekla>	cool!
Apr 17 21:12:24 <guruvan>	need a phone (in case my stoopid sat connect dies) then we can play MT4
Apr 17 21:12:28 <kakobrekla>	off i go, talk to you later
Apr 17 21:12:34 <kakobrekla>	k
Apr 17 21:12:34 <guruvan>	cheers
Apr 17 21:12:35 <kakobrekla>	cya
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Apr 17 21:17:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 21 @ 0.16 = 3.36 BTC [+]
Apr 17 21:19:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17999 BTC [+]
Apr 17 21:19:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00068174 = 3.9541 BTC [-]
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Apr 17 21:31:22 <jcpham>	https://twitter.com/pm_adamdavidson/status/324611469973020672
Apr 17 21:31:28 <jcpham>	i believe there's a bitbet ^
Apr 17 21:31:55 <jcpham>	nope
Apr 17 21:32:02 <jcpham>	i saw a bet somewhere's about this
Apr 17 21:34:48 <ThickAsThieves>	who is that guy?
Apr 17 21:37:29 <jcpham>	notaclue
Apr 17 21:37:40 <jcpham>	we have some time to educate him via twitter
Apr 17 21:37:59 <jcpham>	i was thinking of how to explain mining in 160 chars
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Apr 17 21:38:03 <jcpham>	then i gave up
Apr 17 21:39:16 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 17 21:39:48 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe send him this? http://devour.com/video/bitcoin-explained/
Apr 17 21:40:05 <ThickAsThieves>	just tell him not to mention SR or whatever the hell cryptographics is
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Apr 17 21:44:59 <mod6>	haha "cryptographics"
Apr 17 21:45:31 <ThickAsThieves>	is that like a bar code?
Apr 17 21:45:55 <ThickAsThieves>	a stereogram?
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Apr 17 21:48:44 <dub>	I dreamed about fighting last night, woke up feeling like I'd been beaten up
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Apr 17 21:49:14 <mod6>	http://youtu.be/G_f8ayQQx4I <<  I can't ever see the sail boat. lol
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Apr 17 21:54:39 <tiberiusiv>	why did bitfloor fail?
Apr 17 21:54:58 <peterl>	because they have a dumb name?
Apr 17 21:55:10 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: can't watch that, accent too annoying
Apr 17 21:58:52 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 17 21:59:45 <ThickAsThieves>	dub watches the video and all he hears is violins and "would you like some tea and crumpets" over and over
Apr 17 22:00:13 <dub>	thats one baby the dingo should have stolen
Apr 17 22:00:37 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
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Apr 17 22:03:39 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 22:03:39 <gribble>	There are currently 58923299 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 17939693.3576 USD in total. | Data vintage: 52.3849 seconds
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Apr 17 22:03:51 <altoz>	;;asks 99999
Apr 17 22:03:51 <gribble>	There are currently 134760.01 bitcoins offered at or under 99999.0 USD, worth 50119430.316 USD in total. | Data vintage: 64.2022 seconds
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Apr 17 22:06:44 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 500
Apr 17 22:06:45 <gribble>	There are currently 127055.97 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 22408202.1652 USD in total. | Data vintage: 35.0923 seconds
Apr 17 22:07:01 <tiberiusiv>	;asks 250
Apr 17 22:07:04 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 250
Apr 17 22:07:05 <gribble>	There are currently 104251.16 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 15197445.4798 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.0710 seconds
Apr 17 22:07:17 <tiberiusiv>	yea not seeing 200+ again this year
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Apr 17 22:07:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.26 = 17.64 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 22:13:39 <thestringpuller>	so bitcoin is going to be on colbert tonight
Apr 17 22:13:42 <thestringpuller>	anyone gonna watch?
Apr 17 22:13:57 <ThickAsThieves>	hell ya
Apr 17 22:14:02 <ThickAsThieves>	bound to be funny
Apr 17 22:15:59 <Namworld>	Where can I watch that?
Apr 17 22:17:13 <peterl>	I think it usually goes up on hulu the next day
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Apr 17 22:21:19 <dub>	hulu is US only too though right?
Apr 17 22:25:00 <orkaa>	i think so
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Apr 17 22:27:36 <peterl>	If you cant get hulu, can you go directly to comedycentral.com or whatever network hosts Colbert?
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Apr 17 22:31:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 988 @ 0.00068174 = 0.6736 BTC [-]
Apr 17 22:32:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Apr 17 22:32:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.29599 BTC [-]
Apr 17 22:36:21 <topace_>	if anoyone gets SSL warnings on havelockinvestments.com, dont worry, its okay :p we're  activating cloudflare
Apr 17 22:37:01 <topace_>	cloudflare says it should go away on its own
Apr 17 22:37:04 <topace_>	...
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Apr 17 22:37:45 <KRS1>	it'll still be encrypted
Apr 17 22:38:18 <topace_>	yea
Apr 17 22:38:23 <topace_>	just the cert isnt issued for hte domain
Apr 17 22:38:27 <topace_>	until they re-issue the cert
Apr 17 22:38:28 <topace_>	or something
Apr 17 22:38:52 <topace_>	so firefox will give a big red warning
Apr 17 22:39:04 <topace_>	other browsers dont make the warning as epic
Apr 17 22:39:08 <KRS1>	lol this is (part of) what i do for my company
Apr 17 22:39:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.01 = 0.5 BTC [+]
Apr 17 22:39:50 <topace_>	cool
Apr 17 22:40:20 <topace_>	its weird, the cert thats there now, has my other domain on it, but not the havelock one (i hadded the other domain about 10 minutes before havelock)
Apr 17 22:40:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [+]
Apr 17 22:40:27 <topace_>	but the cert also has like 10 other domains too
Apr 17 22:40:33 <topace_>	that have nothing to do with me
Apr 17 22:40:38 <dub>	activating floudfail in 3.. 2..
Apr 17 22:42:01 <topace_>	hehe
Apr 17 22:42:04 <topace_>	well ill let it run overnight
Apr 17 22:42:06 <topace_>	see if it fixes itself
Apr 17 22:42:16 <topace_>	hopefully nobody gets too mad at the ssl cert being off for a short period :p
Apr 17 22:42:47 <dub>	we aint mad atcha, not everyone can afford good hosting
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Apr 17 22:47:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1015 BTC [+]
Apr 17 22:48:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10175 BTC [+]
Apr 17 22:54:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3499 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 22:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.2498 = 3.7494 BTC [+]
Apr 17 22:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.24999999 = 2.5 BTC [+]
Apr 17 22:58:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1.26 = 6.3 BTC [+]
Apr 17 22:58:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1.35 = 6.75 BTC [+]
Apr 17 22:58:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17454 @ 0.000695 = 12.1305 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 23:01:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.35 BTC [+]
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Apr 17 23:24:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Apr 17 23:27:06 <KRS1>	any havelock investors here
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Apr 17 23:40:50 <mod6>	omg
Apr 17 23:40:58 <ThickAsThieves>	?
Apr 17 23:41:22 <mod6>	did you watch colbert just now?
Apr 17 23:42:06 <ThickAsThieves>	caught half of it maybe
Apr 17 23:42:09 <mod6>	(18:31) < jcpham> https://twitter.com/pm_adamdavidson/status/324611469973020672 << that guy was on... and not very clue'd.
Apr 17 23:42:34 <ThickAsThieves>	obligatory bitcoin is for drugs and buying it is hard
Apr 17 23:42:50 <altoz>	;;bids 0
Apr 17 23:42:52 <gribble>	There are currently 58941677 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19151406.7892 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0104 seconds
Apr 17 23:43:00 <mod6>	lol smh
Apr 17 23:43:07 <altoz>	;;asks 9999
Apr 17 23:43:07 <gribble>	There are currently 133346.98 bitcoins offered at or under 9999.0 USD, worth 37359637.5885 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.9510 seconds
Apr 17 23:43:25 <Namworld>	KRS1: yes?
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Apr 17 23:54:46 <grubles>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 17 23:54:46 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 4 hours, 16 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> i've yet to step in lawnmower shit.
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Apr 18 00:10:56 <jcpham>	http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1139
Apr 18 00:10:59 <jcpham>	HN
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Apr 18 01:18:13 <guruvan>	lol jcpham that's the best laugh I had all day. :D
Apr 18 01:23:19 <jcpham>	what would be the value in a (bit)coin (m)iners (u)union
Apr 18 01:23:25 <jcpham>	a true .org
Apr 18 01:23:42 <jcpham>	and who should head up this hypothetical
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Apr 18 01:24:11 <jcpham>	would it have a board and what would this body oversee
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Apr 18 02:29:58 <Chaang-Noi>	good to be home after 19 days...
Apr 18 02:30:47 <Namworld>	Hey Chaang
Apr 18 02:31:02 <Namworld>	How goes?
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Apr 18 02:31:21 <Chaang-Noi>	tired but damn glad to be home
Apr 18 02:31:54 <Chaang-Noi>	you?
Apr 18 02:31:59 <Chaang-Noi>	asic miner took ogg
Apr 18 02:32:02 <Chaang-Noi>	off
Apr 18 02:32:10 <Chaang-Noi>	mp will not be pleased
Apr 18 02:33:58 <Namworld>	Why?
Apr 18 02:34:02 <Namworld>	And not bad
Apr 18 02:34:40 <Chaang-Noi>	he hates AM
Apr 18 02:35:01 <Chaang-Noi>	and now they will odds are have 1000 th by the end of the year
Apr 18 02:35:16 <Namworld>	eheh
Apr 18 02:36:39 <Namworld>	LTC looks high as hell right now
Apr 18 02:36:48 <Namworld>	Lucky you
Apr 18 02:39:42 <Chaang-Noi>	it was $5 almost 6 but yeah im happy
Apr 18 02:39:54 <Chaang-Noi>	i think it will do better once gox finaly lists it
Apr 18 02:40:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i will admit however i sold some into btc and then sold the btc when it was over $200
Apr 18 02:40:56 <Chaang-Noi>	$230 and damn close to $260
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Apr 18 02:44:56 <Namworld>	Nice
Apr 18 02:45:21 <Chaang-Noi>	should have done more
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Apr 18 02:53:27 <Namworld>	maybe eh
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Apr 18 03:14:14 <damientrog>	where do you guys see these high prices for LTC?
Apr 18 03:15:01 <damientrog>	highest I see is 2 or 3$
Apr 18 03:25:12 <Chaang-Noi>	it was like 3 weeks ago
Apr 18 03:25:24 <Chaang-Noi>	oe 2 hell i dont know
Apr 18 03:25:32 <Chaang-Noi>	i saw it live
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Apr 18 03:31:42 <damientrog>	ah ok I figured :)
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Apr 18 03:32:14 <damientrog>	I still got 800 left that I'd sell immediately at that price :)
Apr 18 03:39:14 <Chaang-Noi>	wait for gox
Apr 18 03:51:28 <Namworld>	gox make make the price go down. What's the use for LTC? More trading occuring, maybe not only upward.
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Apr 18 04:07:07 <jurov>	hi all, anyone willing to deposit 8 BTC to mpex or coinbr?
Apr 18 04:07:32 <jurov>	i need them outside mpex, waiting 20hrs for withdrawal and don't want to sell assets elsewhere at a loss :/
Apr 18 04:10:31 <jurov>	*am waiting
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Apr 18 04:14:05 <damientrog>	Chaang, I am wating for Gox indeed
Apr 18 04:15:57 <damientrog>	jurov, I can deposit, what's in it for me :)
Apr 18 04:16:59 <jurov>	ooh you want kickback? what about 0.05 BTC ?
Apr 18 04:17:06 <damientrog>	sheesh
Apr 18 04:17:07 <damientrog>	hehe
Apr 18 04:17:20 <damientrog>	I put 10 in
Apr 18 04:17:41 <jurov>	where? to coinbr?
Apr 18 04:17:46 <damientrog>	yeah
Apr 18 04:18:19 <damientrog>	as long as I get them back
Apr 18 04:18:21 <damientrog>	:)
Apr 18 04:21:21 <jurov>	i see it, thanks!
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Apr 18 04:22:19 <damientrog>	np
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Apr 18 04:40:01 <Chaang-Noi>	namworld anyone who wants to sell on gox might have to buy it first:)
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Apr 18 05:24:50 <MJR_>	good morning everyone
Apr 18 05:25:18 <kakobrekla>	mornin
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Apr 18 05:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	heya
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Apr 18 05:36:16 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
Apr 18 05:36:49 <Chaang-Noi>	btw seems dull lol
Apr 18 05:36:59 <Chaang-Noi>	btc world seems dull i mean
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Apr 18 05:40:33 <kakobrekla>	ITS OVER MAN!
Apr 18 05:46:02 <Chaang-Noi>	the crazyness?
Apr 18 05:46:17 <Chaang-Noi>	im okay with that for a while
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Apr 18 05:57:16 <MJR_>	whats over?
Apr 18 05:57:48 <kakobrekla>	you know...
Apr 18 05:57:50 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin
Apr 18 05:58:09 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 18 05:58:30 <MJR_>	crazy about bitfloor
Apr 18 05:58:34 <MJR_>	but bound to happen i guess
Apr 18 06:00:13 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ im resisting the urge to search through logs for me going "don't use bitfloor" at people.
Apr 18 06:00:46 <MJR_>	eh, it wasn't really a problem
Apr 18 06:00:53 <MJR_>	its the only exchange i've used
Apr 18 06:00:59 <MJR_>	everyone got their money out
Apr 18 06:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	a, they paid out ?
Apr 18 06:01:10 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 18 06:01:15 <MJR_>	orderly unwinding
Apr 18 06:01:26 <MJR_>	i believe at the moment you can still withdraw using the site..
Apr 18 06:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	a that's nioce then
Apr 18 06:01:31 <MJR_>	though trading is done
Apr 18 06:01:52 <MJR_>	I am sorry to announce that due to circumstances outside of our control BitFloor must cease all trading operations indefinitely. Unfortunately, our US bank account is scheduled to be closed and we can no longer provide the same level of USD deposits and withdrawals as we have in the past. As such, I have made the decision to halt operations and return all funds.
Apr 18 06:01:52 <MJR_>	Over the next days we will be working with all clients to ensure that everyone receives their funds. Please be patient as we process your request.
Apr 18 06:01:52 <MJR_>	- Roman
Apr 18 06:01:52 <MJR_>	founder - bitfloor.com
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Apr 18 06:02:24 <MJR_>	there was a different announcement...
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Apr 18 06:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Apr 18 06:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	what of the people who were going to get repaid out of the exchange comissuion ?
Apr 18 06:11:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i was wondering about that too
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Apr 18 06:15:48 <assbot>	sorry took a nap.
Apr 18 06:23:17 <Scrat>	it's ok, your punishment is 10 whips
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Apr 18 06:23:49 <assbot>	ok, get in the asswhippin line
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Apr 18 06:27:05 <MJR_>	yeah not sure about them...
Apr 18 06:27:26 <MJR_>	i am going to talk to roman soon, i was texting with him
Apr 18 06:27:33 <MJR_>	and want to see if we can help him move offshore
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Apr 18 06:28:35 <kakobrekla>	you think its worth saving bitfloor after all that happend there MJR_
Apr 18 06:28:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00070303 = 1.9685 BTC [+]
Apr 18 06:28:55 <kakobrekla>	what does he have?
Apr 18 06:29:04 <kakobrekla>	a name? yeah we know he fucked up
Apr 18 06:29:06 <kakobrekla>	trust? no
Apr 18 06:29:09 <kakobrekla>	a bank account? no
Apr 18 06:29:19 <kakobrekla>	srsly?
Apr 18 06:30:32 <kakobrekla>	maybe you are better off supporting TH wackos
Apr 18 06:30:38 <MJR_>	lol good point
Apr 18 06:30:42 <MJR_>	not supporting
Apr 18 06:31:58 <jurov>	well.. same happened to gox, multiple times... and we are so not supporting it :D
Apr 18 06:32:40 <kakobrekla>	jurov WE ARE NOT!
Apr 18 06:33:05 <mircea_popescu>	jurov indeed we aren't.
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Apr 18 06:34:12 <kakobrekla>	its just alternatives suck hard :\
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Apr 18 06:37:15 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 18 06:37:23 <MJR_>	i never said support
Apr 18 06:37:31 <MJR_>	i just said help
Apr 18 06:37:33 <troc>	<MJR_> there was a different announcement... ... ...
Apr 18 06:38:12 <kakobrekla>	ok but how is help not support
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Apr 18 06:38:51 <Chaang-Noi>	why do i keep ping timeout?
Apr 18 06:39:15 <kakobrekla>	if you help the nazis arent you supporting them?
Apr 18 06:39:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00070303 = 8.1903 BTC [+]
Apr 18 06:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00071248 = 5.2367 BTC [+]
Apr 18 06:39:58 <kakobrekla>	but im not saying you shouldnt support roman
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Apr 18 06:40:01 <kakobrekla>	do what you feel :)
Apr 18 06:40:11 <MJR_>	lol, good point
Apr 18 06:40:25 <MJR_>	i meant not financially support, but offer some advice and maybe help set some things up
Apr 18 06:40:34 <MJR_>	so for me that is a big difference
Apr 18 06:40:39 <kakobrekla>	ok :)
Apr 18 06:41:00 <MJR_>	also, if you can get it back up again and retain customers, you could conceivably get a revenue share
Apr 18 06:41:15 <MJR_>	for whatever you did to get it back up again
Apr 18 06:41:23 <kakobrekla>	AHA!
Apr 18 06:41:32 <kakobrekla>	thats your evil plan then :D
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Apr 18 06:44:33 <jurov>	well, btc to usd exchanges can fail many times and there will still be interest
Apr 18 06:44:57 <kakobrekla>	ofc
Apr 18 06:45:04 <kakobrekla>	iirc preetymuch everyone was capped out
Apr 18 06:45:07 <kakobrekla>	in the last rally
Apr 18 06:45:18 <kakobrekla>	meaning theres room
Apr 18 06:45:30 <jurov>	unlike my bitfunder endeavors... mpoe bonds scared everyone
Apr 18 06:45:36 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Apr 18 06:45:52 <jurov>	and difficulty futures proll exhausted pool of BFLievers
Apr 18 06:45:57 <kakobrekla>	loool
Apr 18 06:46:18 <kakobrekla>	ah bfl
Apr 18 06:46:23 <kakobrekla>	you should have some discount for them
Apr 18 06:46:25 <kakobrekla>	poor fellas
Apr 18 06:48:14 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 18 06:48:21 <MJR_>	a guy in my office just preordered now
Apr 18 06:48:27 <MJR_>	i'm like "what?!?!?"
Apr 18 06:48:29 <KRS1>	Mine should be here any day......
Apr 18 06:48:29 <kakobrekla>	:o
Apr 18 06:48:33 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 18 06:48:53 <MJR_>	got 3 virtex 6's that i'm trying to get something going on...still
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Apr 18 06:48:58 <kakobrekla>	its gonna be october for sure just not 2012
Apr 18 06:49:05 <dub>	;;goxlag
Apr 18 06:49:11 <MJR_>	BFL shocks the world by actually shipping something in 2020
Apr 18 06:49:23 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 18 06:49:30 <jurov>	MJR_ can you show them https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-O ?
Apr 18 06:49:33 <MJR_>	after most people had already forgotten they were waiting
Apr 18 06:49:45 <jurov>	just in case they want to hedge against difficulty skyrocketing ;)
Apr 18 06:49:48 <MJR_>	jurov: show who?
Apr 18 06:49:49 <kakobrekla>	MJR_ but he paid a lot more than preorders for half the spec?
Apr 18 06:50:08 <kakobrekla>	rofl
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Apr 18 06:50:09 <MJR_>	don't know what he paid...but i think he just likes to get hardware
Apr 18 06:50:15 <kakobrekla>	13:49.33 ( MJR_ ) after most people had already forgotten they were waiting
Apr 18 06:50:17 <MJR_>	he got the raspberry pi before that
Apr 18 06:50:20 <kakobrekla>	like when you order stuff from DX
Apr 18 06:50:23 <kakobrekla>	and get it 2 months later
Apr 18 06:50:34 <kakobrekla>	"oohhh i forgot i ordered this what a nice suprise to self"
Apr 18 06:50:40 <MJR_>	jurov: ah ok, good idea
Apr 18 06:50:49 <MJR_>	aren't diffs too expensive?
Apr 18 06:51:08 <jurov>	no, just lowered the offer from 0.19 to 0.16
Apr 18 06:51:12 <MJR_>	ah ok
Apr 18 06:51:13 <MJR_>	cool
Apr 18 06:51:16 <jurov>	it's a sale!
Apr 18 06:51:30 <MJR_>	i was going to say that i should map out the absolute upper bound of difficulty over the time period
Apr 18 06:51:46 <MJR_>	it can only go up by 4X
Apr 18 06:51:50 <MJR_>	every two weeks
Apr 18 06:51:55 <MJR_>	at most
Apr 18 06:52:09 <MJR_>	wait...take that back 4X every 2016 blocks
Apr 18 06:52:25 <jurov>	nice, let me know... i'll write it into prospect
Apr 18 06:52:42 <MJR_>	oh eyah
Apr 18 06:52:47 <MJR_>	did you guys see on avalon?
Apr 18 06:52:53 <MJR_>	you can order 10k chips
Apr 18 06:52:59 <MJR_>	only like 781 btc
Apr 18 06:56:40 <MJR_>	282Mh/s per chip
Apr 18 06:56:52 <MJR_>	;;calc 282 * 10000
Apr 18 06:56:52 <gribble>	2820000
Apr 18 06:57:00 <MJR_>	2 million megahashes
Apr 18 06:57:07 <MJR_>	almost 3
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Apr 18 06:59:18 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 06:59:19 <gribble>	There are currently 53900872 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19947846.5096 USD in total. | Data vintage: 116.2202 seconds
Apr 18 06:59:42 <bitesak>	roughly 3 million more than yesterday?
Apr 18 06:59:46 <troc>	almost 20M, is that an ath ?
Apr 18 07:00:05 <bitesak>	in my experience it is..
Apr 18 07:00:38 <bitesak>	;;asks 260
Apr 18 07:00:38 <gribble>	There are currently 111956.4 bitcoins offered at or under 260.0 USD, worth 16801704.7573 USD in total. | Data vintage: 22.0432 seconds
Apr 18 07:02:00 <MJR_>	lol if you could get all those chips up and running....you would make back your bitcoins in a week
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Apr 18 07:02:18 <MJR_>	very good deal for hardware people
Apr 18 07:02:29 <KRS1>	;;eightball how long would it take to get all those chips up and running
Apr 18 07:02:29 <gribble>	The answer is certainly yes.
Apr 18 07:02:40 <KRS1>	There you go..
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Apr 18 07:09:18 <BitHub>	bot down atm?
Apr 18 07:11:52 <dub>	;;genrate 2820000
Apr 18 07:12:03 <gribble>	Error: Failed to retrieve current block bounty. Try again later.
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Apr 18 07:20:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.33 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 07:31:29 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 18 07:31:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.96450, Best ask: 90.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02550, Last trade: 90.99000, 24 hour volume: 269857.74349601, 24 hour low: 80.74999, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 90.37506
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Apr 18 07:36:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.333 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 07:42:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.35 BTC [+]
Apr 18 07:43:45 <BitHub>	thanks :)
Apr 18 07:45:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00346247 = 2.4237 BTC [+]
Apr 18 07:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20155 @ 0.00070162 = 14.1412 BTC [-]
Apr 18 07:52:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00071041 = 13.853 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 08:03:51 <truffles>	hello room
Apr 18 08:04:10 <ThickAsThieves>	hello
Apr 18 08:04:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.17889 = 0.5367 BTC [-]
Apr 18 08:04:34 <truffles>	rich yet?
Apr 18 08:05:07 <savetheinternet>	hi
Apr 18 08:05:53 <ThickAsThieves>	rich in some ways, improving in others
Apr 18 08:06:09 <truffles>	interesting times ahead with bitcoin and i just have to spectate
Apr 18 08:07:01 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah cognitive!
Apr 18 08:07:05 <Chaang-Noi>	keep going up
Apr 18 08:07:12 <Chaang-Noi>	go AM!
Apr 18 08:07:27 <Chaang-Noi>	1.333 is nice to see
Apr 18 08:07:28 <truffles>	we all know some people will not just sit by idle on this
Apr 18 08:08:22 <ThickAsThieves>	things happen
Apr 18 08:08:24 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 50
Apr 18 08:08:26 <gribble>	There are currently 189993.3 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 12716075.1439 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0064 seconds
Apr 18 08:08:45 <Chaang-Noi>	i think d3 is going to be wrong.. i think we will see 500 before 50
Apr 18 08:08:57 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 500
Apr 18 08:08:57 <gribble>	There are currently 131290.56 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 23276051.5885 USD in total. | Data vintage: 30.6232 seconds
Apr 18 08:09:52 <deadweasel>	only 2.2mil to go!   :D
Apr 18 08:10:51 <Chaang-Noi>	you left out a 0
Apr 18 08:13:48 <orkaa>	good morning
Apr 18 08:14:25 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
Apr 18 08:14:40 <ThickAsThieves>	if you were a market maker, why might you post huge big walls from 60-80, and also ask walls under 100?
Apr 18 08:14:42 <truffles>	hello
Apr 18 08:15:07 <ThickAsThieves>	essentially holding price both higher and lower than it might go naturally?
Apr 18 08:15:35 <ThickAsThieves>	two market makers at odds?
Apr 18 08:17:05 <Chaang-Noi>	stabiliy is good
Apr 18 08:17:19 <Chaang-Noi>	we found fair market priuce maybe
Apr 18 08:17:24 <ThickAsThieves>	nah
Apr 18 08:17:27 <truffles>	people keep saying that bitcoin cant be manipulated
Apr 18 08:17:35 <Chaang-Noi>	but with 20 million usd on the books i dont think so
Apr 18 08:17:39 <ThickAsThieves>	stability couldve happend at 70
Apr 18 08:17:42 <Chaang-Noi>	people just hope to get cheap coins
Apr 18 08:17:45 <Chaang-Noi>	and they wont
Apr 18 08:17:51 <ThickAsThieves>	but enormous bid walls propped it up
Apr 18 08:18:05 <Chaang-Noi>	hell im happy if we stay here for a year
Apr 18 08:18:08 <Chaang-Noi>	93 is damn good for me
Apr 18 08:18:14 <truffles>	walls refers to price usd?
Apr 18 08:18:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i sodl enough at $200 plus (my ltc) to live for a few years:)
Apr 18 08:18:39 <Chaang-Noi>	yes, bids and asks in usd
Apr 18 08:18:46 <truffles>	ok thx
Apr 18 08:18:47 <ThickAsThieves>	orderbook is shown in coinds
Apr 18 08:18:49 <Sinbios>	there's no "wall" under 100, just a bunch of people trying to sell
Apr 18 08:18:52 <Chaang-Noi>	hell of a lot more bids than asks
Apr 18 08:18:53 <ThickAsThieves>	but bid walls are indeed dollars
Apr 18 08:19:03 <ThickAsThieves>	but chaang,
Apr 18 08:19:13 <ThickAsThieves>	so many of those dollars are articial floors
Apr 18 08:19:19 <truffles>	this is all so complicated!
Apr 18 08:19:21 <ThickAsThieves>	someone is building something
Apr 18 08:19:34 <ThickAsThieves>	this isnt a natural price
Apr 18 08:19:37 <Chaang-Noi>	175,000 coins to $50
Apr 18 08:19:48 <Chaang-Noi>	we will not see 50 for a while if ever
Apr 18 08:20:06 <Chaang-Noi>	double bottem was tested
Apr 18 08:20:13 <ThickAsThieves>	but why is that buyer propping price up, rather than buying?
Apr 18 08:20:26 <Sinbios>	there are only two big bid orders, one at 80 and one at 70
Apr 18 08:20:27 <taub>	i see buying beeing absorbed right now
Apr 18 08:20:34 <truffles>	so why are bitcoins tied to dollars and not euro's?
Apr 18 08:20:40 <Sinbios>	if those disappear for whatever reason 50 isn't out of reach
Apr 18 08:20:47 <taub>	you can also buy them with euros truffles
Apr 18 08:20:54 <taub>	it's just that the biggest market is in dollars
Apr 18 08:20:55 <ThickAsThieves>	sinbios, thats what i['m getting at
Apr 18 08:21:02 <Chaang-Noi>	the volume is mostly in usd, but the euro market and even yuan market will drag the dollar price around
Apr 18 08:21:06 <ThickAsThieves>	how much of this bidbook can disappear on a whim?
Apr 18 08:21:10 <taub>	and even most of europeans trade it in usd i think
Apr 18 08:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00346246 = 1.7312 BTC [-]
Apr 18 08:21:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00346247 = 2.4237 BTC [+]
Apr 18 08:21:29 <Chaang-Noi>	yes the bid walls can give up waiting and buy, but we were just at $50, why but now?
Apr 18 08:21:40 <Chaang-Noi>	we dont have panic buying right now, but we might again over $130
Apr 18 08:21:58 <ThickAsThieves>	for 2 or 3 days, someone has been constructing this price, yet not letting it break the overall downward trend
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Apr 18 08:22:14 <truffles>	kinda difficult to wean off currencies the way things are going eh
Apr 18 08:22:28 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Apr 18 08:22:43 <Chaang-Noi>	btc is one
Apr 18 08:23:11 <ThickAsThieves>	i think another big crash is coming
Apr 18 08:23:13 <truffles>	i mean dollars euro's etc
Apr 18 08:23:26 <Chaang-Noi>	once nations states are gone....
Apr 18 08:23:40 <truffles>	not in our lifetimes imo
Apr 18 08:23:44 <ThickAsThieves>	this manipulator WILL spend these dollars, and it WON'T be at these prices he constructed
Apr 18 08:24:32 <Scrat>	truffles: you'd be surprised at how fast things move nowadays
Apr 18 08:24:33 <deadweasel>	truffles: i agree, we see the internal rot, but nationstates power will remain in our lifetimes.
Apr 18 08:24:41 <truffles>	im officially cheering on the sidelines for bitcoin, im excited to see who will win on this
Apr 18 08:24:42 <taub>	ehhh
Apr 18 08:24:52 <taub>	market has been kinda shaking, especially this week
Apr 18 08:24:56 <deadweasel>	political centrifigalism
Apr 18 08:25:03 <ThickAsThieves>	what i think is that someone is manipulating, making up a large % of bid book,
Apr 18 08:25:13 <taub>	and i dont think fiat currencies can live forever when all central banks are printing money like crazy
Apr 18 08:25:17 <ThickAsThieves>	holding enough coins to be able remove all bids
Apr 18 08:25:19 <ThickAsThieves>	and crash it down
Apr 18 08:25:23 <taub>	you dont need bitcoin to kill fiat, fiat will kill itself the way it's going
Apr 18 08:25:33 <deadweasel>	^
Apr 18 08:25:36 <deadweasel>	yup
Apr 18 08:26:12 <truffles>	a group will have all the money and the rest will be servicing..
Apr 18 08:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9389 @ 0.00071248 = 6.6895 BTC [+]
Apr 18 08:27:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15218 @ 0.00072 = 10.957 BTC [+]
Apr 18 08:27:11 <ThickAsThieves>	the only reason to hold the price up, but under 100
Apr 18 08:27:23 <taub>	i dont really like to think about that future where fiat breaks down, dont think it will be non violent
Apr 18 08:27:23 <ThickAsThieves>	is that he doesnt have enough coins to crash it at a higher price
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Apr 18 08:27:43 <ThickAsThieves>	which means the crash could come sooner than later
Apr 18 08:27:54 <truffles>	taub i dont think it will be peaceful either
Apr 18 08:27:59 <ThickAsThieves>	call me crazy
Apr 18 08:28:04 <deadweasel>	to where tho?  70?  50?
Apr 18 08:28:09 <ThickAsThieves>	but i'm just trying to make sense of this manip
Apr 18 08:28:13 <truffles>	and no i dont think the fight has started yet
Apr 18 08:28:25 <taub>	yea obviously not
Apr 18 08:28:25 <deadweasel>	thats not crash, it's a bitcoin sneeze
Apr 18 08:28:34 <ThickAsThieves>	no way to know
Apr 18 08:28:44 <deadweasel>	none
Apr 18 08:28:45 <ThickAsThieves>	what if $10m of bids is on person?
Apr 18 08:28:56 <ThickAsThieves>	one*
Apr 18 08:29:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bids 50
Apr 18 08:29:05 <gribble>	There are currently 189923.91 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 12726343.8662 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0065 seconds
Apr 18 08:29:12 <taub>	max keiser
Apr 18 08:29:24 <ThickAsThieves>	what if $15m is one person?
Apr 18 08:29:26 <truffles>	i like max keiser
Apr 18 08:29:29 <Scrat>	would take a lot of balls to have 10million on gox
Apr 18 08:29:37 <ThickAsThieves>	what if it is gox
Apr 18 08:29:40 <truffles>	keiser seems really invested in bitcoin
Apr 18 08:30:09 <ThickAsThieves>	gox has made more than that no?
Apr 18 08:30:20 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe they are using all the fees you pay them to control price
Apr 18 08:30:23 <Sinbios>	ThickAsThieves: ...then what incentive does that person have to hold the price up instead of just letting it fall to $0.01 and buy it up then
Apr 18 08:30:40 <ThickAsThieves>	its a numbers
Apr 18 08:30:41 <ThickAsThieves>	game
Apr 18 08:30:52 <ThickAsThieves>	the more cash they get for the crash coins
Apr 18 08:30:59 <ThickAsThieves>	the more control they have at the bottom
Apr 18 08:31:11 <ThickAsThieves>	but if its gox
Apr 18 08:31:15 <ThickAsThieves>	it doesn even matter
Apr 18 08:31:22 <ThickAsThieves>	they could do anything they want
Apr 18 08:31:23 <Scrat>	how do you prove that an exchange is manipulating the price, provided that they are doing it right
Apr 18 08:31:41 <Sinbios>	i don't understand what you're trying to say. what crash coins?
Apr 18 08:31:41 <ThickAsThieves>	you get everyone to cash out
Apr 18 08:31:45 <ThickAsThieves>	and see whats left
Apr 18 08:31:46 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 18 08:32:10 <ThickAsThieves>	well assuming its not gox
Apr 18 08:32:44 <ThickAsThieves>	the manipulator would need to hold maybe 500k coins
Apr 18 08:32:48 <ThickAsThieves>	(guessing)
Apr 18 08:32:56 <ThickAsThieves>	and maybe $5,-$20m
Apr 18 08:33:15 <ThickAsThieves>	if they know they make up a certain % of bidbook
Apr 18 08:33:24 <ThickAsThieves>	they know exactly how many coins are needed to crash it to any price
Apr 18 08:33:25 <Scrat>	if it's gox they dont even need to hold anything
Apr 18 08:33:28 <ThickAsThieves>	right
Apr 18 08:33:29 <Scrat>	they can change a value in the database
Apr 18 08:33:50 <ThickAsThieves>	they can simply play with whatever the average balance is
Apr 18 08:34:00 <ThickAsThieves>	an no one could know
Apr 18 08:34:19 <Scrat>	only top management would know
Apr 18 08:34:41 <truffles>	there are always rogues
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Apr 18 08:34:56 <ThickAsThieves>	but cmon you guys have to see that this price is constructed
Apr 18 08:35:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not crazy about that am i?
Apr 18 08:35:29 <truffles>	ure making connections that are above my head
Apr 18 08:36:02 <ThickAsThieves>	there is no reason other than manip, to make bid walls that big
Apr 18 08:36:35 <Sinbios>	so what
Apr 18 08:36:45 <Sinbios>	the market is constantly manipulated
Apr 18 08:36:54 <ThickAsThieves>	so what so what
Apr 18 08:37:02 <Scrat>	Sinbios: there's a big difference
Apr 18 08:37:06 <ThickAsThieves>	this is new exaggerated behavior
Apr 18 08:37:12 <Scrat>	whale vs. the exchange themselves
Apr 18 08:37:25 <ThickAsThieves>	this is big
Apr 18 08:37:28 <Sinbios>	who said it's the exchange?
Apr 18 08:37:32 <Scrat>	if the latter is true we're in deep shit
Apr 18 08:37:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00072335 = 8.3909 BTC [+]
Apr 18 08:37:37 <Scrat>	we aren't
Apr 18 08:37:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00072397 = 7.9637 BTC [+]
Apr 18 08:37:41 <truffles>	play high stakes game u get high stakes risk
Apr 18 08:37:44 <Scrat>	this is a "what if"
Apr 18 08:37:50 <Sinbios>	then why are you speculating?
Apr 18 08:38:10 <ThickAsThieves>	dont you remember how 2 days ago we were at about 70, then a 15k wall appeared?
Apr 18 08:38:16 <ThickAsThieves>	then it grew to 20k
Apr 18 08:38:21 <Scrat>	because it's not falsifiable either
Apr 18 08:38:24 <ThickAsThieves>	now last night one appears at 80
Apr 18 08:38:44 <truffles>	is there a bitcoin police?
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Apr 18 08:38:55 <Sinbios>	god's not falsifiable either, are you speculating it's god keeping the price up
Apr 18 08:38:58 <truffles>	like indept body that looks at that stuff
Apr 18 08:39:12 <ThickAsThieves>	my point isnt to be high-minded
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Apr 18 08:39:19 <ThickAsThieves>	the WHY doesnt matter
Apr 18 08:39:24 <ThickAsThieves>	is the whether and when
Apr 18 08:39:26 <Scrat>	I have a theory xenu might be buying btc, so yes
Apr 18 08:39:35 <Sinbios>	ThickAsThieves: who cares? maybe it's some guy with deep pockets who thinks it's actually worth 70 and now 80 a coin
Apr 18 08:39:45 <ThickAsThieves>	i care
Apr 18 08:39:49 <Sinbios>	just be prepared that it might disappear at any time and act accordingly
Apr 18 08:40:03 <ThickAsThieves>	so as i do what you just told me to do
Apr 18 08:40:04 <Sinbios>	well you shouldn't
Apr 18 08:40:08 <ThickAsThieves>	you bitch about it/
Apr 18 08:40:26 <Sinbios>	because it's pointless speculating and you're just going to whip yourself into an anxious frenzy
Apr 18 08:40:27 <Scrat>	;;ticker --last
Apr 18 08:40:27 <gribble>	93.00000
Apr 18 08:40:30 <ThickAsThieves>	be prepared, but stop caring
Apr 18 08:40:35 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 18 08:40:51 <Scrat>	i'm very calm actually
Apr 18 08:40:53 <Sinbios>	i mean stop caring that it might be manipulation, because it is 100% manipulation
Apr 18 08:40:57 <ThickAsThieves>	i am calm
Apr 18 08:40:59 <truffles>	<ThickAsThieves>  could you put these theories into like a word document, its a lot to keep track
Apr 18 08:41:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm just excited to hash out my theory
Apr 18 08:41:27 <Scrat>	gox is offline
Apr 18 08:41:30 <ThickAsThieves>	disprove it or ignore it
Apr 18 08:41:39 <Sinbios>	k
Apr 18 08:41:59 <truffles>	im in no condition to prove or disprove, id surely lend an ear though
Apr 18 08:42:07 <Sinbios>	i'm guessing most people are going with the latter, which might be why you don't get any replies when you ask if you're crazy
Apr 18 08:42:09 <ThickAsThieves>	ive been talking about this with others for a couple days now
Apr 18 08:42:16 <ThickAsThieves>	and its at the point where i want to share more
Apr 18 08:42:28 <troc>	share more thoughts or evidence ?
Apr 18 08:42:32 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont mind being wrong
Apr 18 08:42:38 <ThickAsThieves>	or crazy
Apr 18 08:42:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.365 BTC [+]
Apr 18 08:42:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.36 = 2.72 BTC [-]
Apr 18 08:42:47 <ThickAsThieves>	at least i'd have some new info
Apr 18 08:42:48 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 18 08:42:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.35 = 2.7 BTC [-]
Apr 18 08:43:17 <truffles>	when you share ideas someone will poke a hole in it at some point
Apr 18 08:43:33 <Scrat>	ThickAsThieves I have a counter argument
Apr 18 08:43:36 <truffles>	if that makes sense
Apr 18 08:43:38 <ThickAsThieves>	shoot
Apr 18 08:43:59 <Scrat>	that sort of manip would require someone working at gox who is competent
Apr 18 08:44:01 <Scrat>	lol
Apr 18 08:44:07 <ThickAsThieves>	haha
Apr 18 08:44:11 <ThickAsThieves>	two problems
Apr 18 08:44:17 <ThickAsThieves>	1. it doesnt HAVE to be gox
Apr 18 08:44:29 <ThickAsThieves>	2. it doesnt take THAT much skil
Apr 18 08:44:34 <ThickAsThieves>	skill*
Apr 18 08:44:45 <ThickAsThieves>	its just a matter of scale
Apr 18 08:44:45 <truffles>	buying and selling right
Apr 18 08:44:52 <ThickAsThieves>	if you have that much resource
Apr 18 08:45:02 <ThickAsThieves>	playing this game is very easy
Apr 18 08:45:10 <Scrat>	im just trolling
Apr 18 08:45:16 <Scrat>	in fact im always trolling
Apr 18 08:45:17 <Scrat>	afk
Apr 18 08:45:18 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 18 08:45:29 <truffles>	no new code is needed for that right
Apr 18 08:46:21 <truffles>	crossing out how much knowledge one needs to complete such a task
Apr 18 08:46:27 <ThickAsThieves>	right
Apr 18 08:46:50 <ThickAsThieves>	i have done this kind of thing with stocks on bitfunder
Apr 18 08:46:59 <ThickAsThieves>	constructed a price
Apr 18 08:47:03 <ThickAsThieves>	and tore it down
Apr 18 08:47:32 <truffles>	knowledge of finance necessary?
Apr 18 08:47:36 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 18 08:47:45 <ThickAsThieves>	just money and smarts
Apr 18 08:47:50 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 18 08:47:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.60000, Best ask: 92.60001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 92.60000, 24 hour volume: 258868.97500742, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 90.79159
Apr 18 08:47:59 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 18 08:48:01 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 90.42
Apr 18 08:48:11 <truffles>	common sense or some level of education?
Apr 18 08:48:27 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 18 08:48:47 <ThickAsThieves>	yes, the person must be a functional member of the economy
Apr 18 08:48:57 <truffles>	smart people tend to lack the common sense though
Apr 18 08:49:16 <ThickAsThieves>	common sense isnt a big factor here
Apr 18 08:49:25 <truffles>	ok
Apr 18 08:50:11 <truffles>	so i agree with u on that such a thing is possible if they have money and some sort of idea of price controls
Apr 18 08:51:03 <truffles>	but if this were someone with high intelligence wouldnt they know someone would notice?
Apr 18 08:51:11 <truffles>	oh common sense part ....
Apr 18 08:51:23 <ThickAsThieves>	also, someone noticing doesnt change anything
Apr 18 08:51:32 <ThickAsThieves>	yo'd have to convince most people
Apr 18 08:51:45 <ThickAsThieves>	and then have them be so convinced they actually react
Apr 18 08:51:50 <ThickAsThieves>	unlikely
Apr 18 08:52:13 <truffles>	well bitcoin kinda has a cult following it seems to me
Apr 18 08:52:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3998 = 5.5992 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 08:53:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.43 BTC [+]
Apr 18 08:54:21 <ThickAsThieves>	if it IS gox, i'm not sure i'd even want to know
Apr 18 08:54:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [+]
Apr 18 08:54:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i have too much cash there
Apr 18 08:54:38 <ThickAsThieves>	will take me a long time to get it out
Apr 18 08:54:54 <orkaa>	http://i.imgur.com/QDKZohV.jpg
Apr 18 08:54:54 <truffles>	thats the risk you take in such a game
Apr 18 08:54:55 <orkaa>	lol
Apr 18 08:55:06 <orkaa>	i've got to find this
Apr 18 08:55:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4599 BTC [+]
Apr 18 08:56:05 <truffles>	wonder if andre agassi wore those
Apr 18 08:56:13 <orkaa>	yeah, haha
Apr 18 08:56:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.46 = 14.6 BTC [+]
Apr 18 08:56:22 <Chaang-Noi>	1.45 nice
Apr 18 08:56:44 <ThickAsThieves>	if i am right, i think the only possible outcome is a big crash when the manipulator gets to the point where he barely has enoush coins to control a crash
Apr 18 08:57:46 <truffles>	you've ruled out a coincidence?
Apr 18 08:58:03 <ThickAsThieves>	occam told me no coincidence here
Apr 18 08:58:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3199 @ 0.00072157 = 2.3083 BTC [-]
Apr 18 08:58:30 <ThickAsThieves>	how are 20k walls a coincidence?
Apr 18 08:58:45 <ThickAsThieves>	these arent walls that started at 1 and grew
Apr 18 08:58:46 <truffles>	youre dealing with a complex currency in a complex structure
Apr 18 08:58:49 <ThickAsThieves>	they just appeared
Apr 18 08:59:30 <truffles>	a boom happened some days ago too
Apr 18 08:59:34 <truffles>	or weeks
Apr 18 08:59:34 <Sinbios>	like i said, it's 100% manipulation. it's the nature of this market, deal with it or go home
Apr 18 09:00:00 <ThickAsThieves>	like i said, it's theory, deal with it or go home
Apr 18 09:00:08 <truffles>	lol
Apr 18 09:00:14 <Sinbios>	good thing i don't have to deal with it
Apr 18 09:00:27 <ThickAsThieves>	yes please put me on ignore
Apr 18 09:00:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd appreciate it
Apr 18 09:00:44 <truffles>	awww no need for that
Apr 18 09:00:59 <truffles>	u need people to disagree to get somewhere with things
Apr 18 09:01:36 <truffles>	some of us are a bit more sensitive than others though
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Apr 18 09:03:26 <truffles>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TZb0avfQme8#  for a laugh
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Apr 18 09:05:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess some hard advice can be made from this theory, if you see those walls at 80 and 70 disappear, watch out
Apr 18 09:06:06 <ThickAsThieves>	but i dont think they are that dumb to be that obvious
Apr 18 09:06:14 <ThickAsThieves>	to blink them away as a hint
Apr 18 09:06:20 <Sinbios>	[08:40:04] <Sinbios> just be prepared that it might disappear at any time and act accordingly
Apr 18 09:06:42 <truffles>	heh
Apr 18 09:06:51 <ThickAsThieves>	all hail sinbios
Apr 18 09:07:03 <truffles>	sinbios how should one not act in that scenario
Apr 18 09:07:04 <MJR_>	people expecting a drop?
Apr 18 09:07:19 <ThickAsThieves>	just tinfoilhatting big time
Apr 18 09:07:30 <Sinbios>	truffles: hold onto long positions hoping it'll keep going up?
Apr 18 09:07:40 <sturles>	Cloudflare error messages from the MtGox API isn't a good sign.  DDoS again?  Prepare for impact?
Apr 18 09:07:45 <truffles>	id do that for sure
Apr 18 09:07:50 <truffles>	good thing im not in it
Apr 18 09:08:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 221 @ 0.00408 = 0.9017 BTC [+]
Apr 18 09:08:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 122 @ 0.00409 = 0.499 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 09:08:16 <ThickAsThieves>	blockchain.info was hit with ddos to their servers that are supposed to be hidden by cloudlfare
Apr 18 09:08:27 <truffles>	i wonder if bitcoin would ever go past 500 or even 1k
Apr 18 09:08:32 <ThickAsThieves>	so its possible cloudflare has been compromised ot something
Apr 18 09:08:52 <ThickAsThieves>	or*
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Apr 18 09:15:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 34 @ 0.0028 = 0.0952 BTC [-]
Apr 18 09:15:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 49 @ 0.0029 = 0.1421 BTC [+]
Apr 18 09:16:35 <savetheinternet>	ThickAsThieves: it's not very hard to get cloudflare to reveal the site's IP address
Apr 18 09:16:39 <jurov>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 18 09:16:41 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 24.03032819 / 24.03032819 /  (5 shares, 5.40 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 18 09:16:41 <savetheinternet>	all you need to do is file a false DMCA claim
Apr 18 09:17:13 <jurov>	oix hahaha
Apr 18 09:18:09 <thestringpuller>	lol 5 btc
Apr 18 09:18:21 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu is a big meanie
Apr 18 09:21:18 <pgp>	i'm with ThickAsThieves - manipulation is EASY with enough money and half a brain...
Apr 18 09:23:51 <pgp>	when are credible news agencies gonna pick this http://www.dailypaul.com/282345/zimbabwe-makes-history-bitcoins-now-official-national-currency
Apr 18 09:24:07 <pgp>	or discredit it...
Apr 18 09:24:33 <savetheinternet>	it sounds like a bullshit story
Apr 18 09:24:39 <savetheinternet>	no real source
Apr 18 09:24:47 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like a personal blog post or something
Apr 18 09:25:10 <savetheinternet>	some guys attempt to push up the price i guess, i dunno
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Apr 18 09:30:26 <jurov>	kids, don't bring -anal here =)
Apr 18 09:30:39 <troc>	lol
Apr 18 09:31:58 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 18 09:31:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.22000, Best ask: 92.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 92.22000, 24 hour volume: 241621.59434693, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 90.96920
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Apr 18 09:35:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1673 @ 0.00071041 = 1.1885 BTC [-]
Apr 18 09:35:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10159 @ 0.00069581 = 7.0687 BTC [-]
Apr 18 09:35:45 <pgp>	wow -slow day in bitcoin land
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Apr 18 09:43:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.34 = 1.36 BTC [+]
Apr 18 09:44:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.29502 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 09:46:48 <ThickAsThieves>	two more facets to add to my whale manip theory
Apr 18 09:47:15 <ThickAsThieves>	1. the manip and ddos would likely be the same source
Apr 18 09:47:38 <ThickAsThieves>	2. Only Gox would know how big of a bid wall is needed to force a floor
Apr 18 09:47:51 <ThickAsThieves>	not saying it would HAVE to be gox
Apr 18 09:48:00 <ThickAsThieves>	just that they would know easiest
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Apr 18 09:50:11 <ThickAsThieves>	The wall at 80 has halved
Apr 18 09:52:19 <lippoper1>	you don't think the wall has moved up?
Apr 18 09:53:53 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like it
Apr 18 09:54:02 <ThickAsThieves>	like it got spread out
Apr 18 09:54:46 <ThickAsThieves>	some kind of squeeze play
Apr 18 09:54:48 <ThickAsThieves>	can't tell
Apr 18 09:54:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00069463 = 2.7091 BTC [-]
Apr 18 09:57:19 <ThickAsThieves>	squeeze the price here til the weekend
Apr 18 09:57:50 <ThickAsThieves>	then pop it and buy up for a couple days
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Apr 18 10:01:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 57 @ 0.00409 = 0.2331 BTC [+]
Apr 18 10:01:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 33 @ 0.00382 = 0.1261 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:01:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00381 = 0.1905 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:01:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0038 = 0.38 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:01:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 94 @ 0.00373 = 0.3506 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:01:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 44 @ 0.003724 = 0.1639 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 10:02:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 489 @ 0.003501 = 1.712 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:02:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6189 @ 0.0035 = 21.6615 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:02:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:03:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0035 = 0.35 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.3201 = 1.9206 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 10:17:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32000007 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:17:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00310002 = 3.1 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 10:18:45 <ThickAsThieves>	;;later
Apr 18 10:18:45 <gribble>	Error: "later" is not a valid command.
Apr 18 10:18:56 <ThickAsThieves>	whats the command to pm someone later?
Apr 18 10:19:16 <lippoper1>	;;pm later
Apr 18 10:19:17 <gribble>	Error: "pm" is not a valid command.
Apr 18 10:19:20 <lippoper1>	hehe
Apr 18 10:19:23 <troc>	!!later ?
Apr 18 10:19:52 <lippoper1>	;;next
Apr 18 10:19:52 <gribble>	support: 91, 86 | targets: 100-102, 105, 110-113, 120, ..., 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 18 2013, 08:08 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 6 hours, 11 minutes, and 50 seconds ago
Apr 18 10:20:00 <lippoper1>	;;ticker
Apr 18 10:20:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.90002, Best ask: 92.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 92.97000, 24 hour volume: 213470.79482426, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 96.40386, 24 hour vwap: 90.61458
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Apr 18 10:24:51 <orkaa>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U
Apr 18 10:24:53 <orkaa>	hahaha
Apr 18 10:25:48 <error4733>	;;bids 50
Apr 18 10:25:50 <gribble>	There are currently 191320.39 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 12858409.5504 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0071 seconds
Apr 18 10:25:57 <error4733>	;;bids 75
Apr 18 10:25:57 <gribble>	There are currently 59494.14 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 4890302.23197 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.4589 seconds
Apr 18 10:26:16 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 10:26:16 <gribble>	There are currently 99247013 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19912477.3474 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.8990 seconds
Apr 18 10:26:40 <error4733>	20M$ Cmon  ONE TIME !
Apr 18 10:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.43000001 = 2.15 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43 = 0.86 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:31:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4271666 = 1.2815 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:31:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.425 = 0.85 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:31:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.42 = 2.52 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:31:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.417 = 1.251 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:31:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:31:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3989 = 1.1967 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 10:32:37 <lippoper1>	it's only less than 100k short
Apr 18 10:33:01 <lippoper1>	let me put in a quick buy order for 100k bitcoins
Apr 18 10:33:06 <error4733>	please
Apr 18 10:33:10 <lippoper1>	100kusd worth of btc
Apr 18 10:33:18 <error4733>	you want some change ?
Apr 18 10:33:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9425 @ 0.00068035 = 6.4123 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:33:39 <error4733>	maybe in my couch ! let me check
Apr 18 10:35:34 <pgp>	orkaa: funny video
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Apr 18 10:36:38 <taub>	dat buy
Apr 18 10:39:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 22 @ 0.0041 = 0.0902 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 10:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.32000006 = 0.64 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32000001 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:43:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 10:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 10:48:14 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 10:48:15 <gribble>	There are currently 99252549 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20327226.4718 USD in total. | Data vintage: 37.1946 seconds
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Apr 18 10:50:29 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 18 10:50:29 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.30000, Best ask: 94.39000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 94.22000, 24 hour volume: 198258.25230075, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.69850
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Apr 18 10:52:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00068035 = 3.4698 BTC [-]
Apr 18 10:52:35 <bitesak>	I have never seen so many millions in bids
Apr 18 10:52:46 <bitesak>	;;asks 260
Apr 18 10:52:46 <gribble>	There are currently 105104.93 bitcoins offered at or under 260.0 USD, worth 16053671.2769 USD in total. | Data vintage: 34.9561 seconds
Apr 18 10:53:00 <pgp>	hmmm... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goSaEQ9Z8Wg
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Apr 18 10:58:01 <error4733>	first time 20M$ bids !! this is huge
Apr 18 10:58:36 <Boydy>	20m bids?
Apr 18 10:59:33 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 10:59:34 <gribble>	There are currently 99252722 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20351513.2657 USD in total. | Data vintage: 73.3459 seconds
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Apr 18 10:59:56 <MJR_>	is this the first time?
Apr 18 11:03:29 <bitesak>	in my memory it is
Apr 18 11:03:43 *	ColdHardMetal_ is now known as ColdHardMetal
Apr 18 11:03:46 <bitesak>	over the last 2-3 days, its increased by 5 million
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Apr 18 11:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.306 = 0.918 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:04:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.261 = 7.569 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:04:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.2602 = 2.0816 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:04:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2601 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:04:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2601 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:04:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:04:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.25 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:04:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.24 = 1.68 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 11:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00310001 = 3.1 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:06:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00300502 = 3.005 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:06:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00300501 = 3.005 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.003005 = 6.01 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.003 = 7.8 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0029 = 8.7 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:07:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00288242 = 2.8824 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:07:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00275 = 1.375 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00270003 = 2.7 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00270001 = 5.4 BTC [-]
Apr 18 11:07:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 474 @ 0.0027 = 1.2798 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 11:07:53 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 18 11:07:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.00000, Best ask: 94.19998, Bid-ask spread: 0.19998, Last trade: 94.00000, 24 hour volume: 194747.98048834, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.73874
Apr 18 11:08:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2310 @ 0.00068475 = 1.5818 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 11:12:28 <lippoper1>	you're welcome error
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Apr 18 11:18:41 <Bugpowder>	bitflooor lol
Apr 18 11:19:00 <lippoper1>	poor bitfloor
Apr 18 11:19:04 <Bugpowder>	poor?
Apr 18 11:19:11 <Bugpowder>	they stole 25,000BTC
Apr 18 11:19:15 <Bugpowder>	what do you expect?
Apr 18 11:19:37 <lippoper1>	Bitcoin exchange BitFloor shuts its doors, promises to return everyone's money
Apr 18 11:19:37 <lippoper1>	The Verge‎ - 12 hours ago
Apr 18 11:19:41 <lippoper1>	'promises'
Apr 18 11:19:56 <lippoper1>	and you know how you can't break promises
Apr 18 11:20:28 <lippoper1>	Do you think it has anything to do with this? Bitfloor Hacked, $250,000 Missing | Bitcoin Magazine
Apr 18 11:20:41 <lippoper1>	Bitfloor, the fourth largest exchange dealing  in US dollars, has just announced that it has been hacked, and the  service has taken a loss of 24,000 BTC
Apr 18 11:20:59 <Bugpowder>	a good chance he stole the money the first time
Apr 18 11:22:46 <Diablo-D3>	my auction is still running
Apr 18 11:23:01 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179065
Apr 18 11:23:01 <lippoper1>	true
Apr 18 11:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00339 = 0.1695 BTC [+]
Apr 18 11:24:43 <MJR_>	huh?
Apr 18 11:24:53 <MJR_>	why would you steal the money, then go back to running the exchange
Apr 18 11:24:59 <MJR_>	no one lost money at bitfloor yesterday
Apr 18 11:25:02 <Bugpowder>	to get the money a second time
Apr 18 11:25:05 <Bugpowder>	oh?
Apr 18 11:25:09 <MJR_>	except he gave the money out
Apr 18 11:25:12 <Bugpowder>	have people been able to withdraw?
Apr 18 11:25:16 <MJR_>	in fact you can still withdraw currently
Apr 18 11:25:17 <MJR_>	btc
Apr 18 11:25:20 <MJR_>	if you want fiat
Apr 18 11:25:25 <MJR_>	you have to wait for ACH
Apr 18 11:25:34 <MJR_>	that is what he meant by "i am giving all the money back"
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Apr 18 11:25:43 <MJR_>	it means he's giving all accounts their money
Apr 18 11:25:54 <Bugpowder>	well… I would be sure to be first
Apr 18 11:25:56 <MJR_>	in fact he texted me to tell me to withdraw any btc i have
Apr 18 11:26:03 <MJR_>	which i did
Apr 18 11:26:09 <Bugpowder>	cause there might not be enough for the last person
Apr 18 11:26:29 <MJR_>	huh?
Apr 18 11:26:41 <MJR_>	the hacking incident is completely unrelated to him closing
Apr 18 11:26:48 <MJR_>	he owes those people x number of coins
Apr 18 11:26:55 <MJR_>	nothing to do with current accounts
Apr 18 11:27:03 <Bugpowder>	Its the same entity
Apr 18 11:27:08 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 18 11:27:16 <Bugpowder>	why do new accounts have preference over old accounts
Apr 18 11:27:20 <Bugpowder>	can't be legal
Apr 18 11:27:27 <MJR_>	he has a debt to them
Apr 18 11:27:33 <Bugpowder>	lawsuit waiting to happen
Apr 18 11:27:39 <MJR_>	yeah, any year now
Apr 18 11:27:46 <MJR_>	considering him getting hacked was over a year ago
Apr 18 11:27:50 <MJR_>	i believe
Apr 18 11:28:05 <MJR_>	i personally did all my exchanging there
Apr 18 11:28:09 <MJR_>	and never had one problem
Apr 18 11:28:26 <lippoper1>	y shutting down?
Apr 18 11:28:33 <MJR_>	bank account closed
Apr 18 11:28:47 <MJR_>	more than likely recent upsurge of volume in cash...raised some eyebrows
Apr 18 11:29:08 <MJR_>	so i think they closed his bank account or something like that
Apr 18 11:29:26 <MJR_>	no details, but it has to do with fincen regs i think
Apr 18 11:29:32 <MJR_>	or at the very least AML
Apr 18 11:29:43 <lippoper1>	I heard he was talking to another bank and might re-open in 4 weeks
Apr 18 11:29:47 <lippoper1>	who would go there though?
Apr 18 11:29:49 <MJR_>	possible
Apr 18 11:29:59 <MJR_>	if he can figure out the AML stuff, compliance with fincen regs
Apr 18 11:30:02 <MJR_>	no reason why not
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Apr 18 11:30:37 <Bugpowder>	he can't figure it out
Apr 18 11:30:40 <Bugpowder>	that much is clear
Apr 18 11:30:47 <MJR_>	why not?
Apr 18 11:30:50 <Bugpowder>	because he is operating illegally
Apr 18 11:30:56 <Bugpowder>	and has been since being hacked
Apr 18 11:30:59 <MJR_>	i wouldn't talk to a bank so i could have them help me operate illegally
Apr 18 11:31:08 <MJR_>	no, has been since inception
Apr 18 11:31:12 <Bugpowder>	yeha
Apr 18 11:31:15 <MJR_>	or technically since fincen released guidance
Apr 18 11:31:26 <MJR_>	again hacking had nothing to do with closing
Apr 18 11:31:48 <lippoper1>	hacking was just to hurt his reputation
Apr 18 11:31:52 <MJR_>	i would talk to a bank so they could help me implement KYC and AML
Apr 18 11:32:00 <lippoper1>	you're syaing they didn't make off with 24k BTC though?
Apr 18 11:32:02 <Bugpowder>	mtgox is 502
Apr 18 11:32:04 <Bugpowder>	down
Apr 18 11:32:11 <Bugpowder>	lippoper: someone did
Apr 18 11:32:14 <Bugpowder>	we don't know who
Apr 18 11:32:14 <jborkl>	diablo-d3 , how long till the auction ends?
Apr 18 11:32:14 <MJR_>	i'm still getting mt gox data
Apr 18 11:32:25 <MJR_>	its flying in on the api
Apr 18 11:32:38 <Bugpowder>	I can't login
Apr 18 11:32:45 <MJR_>	weird
Apr 18 11:32:49 <Bugpowder>	need to withdraw more
Apr 18 11:32:51 <MJR_>	i'm just watching market data
Apr 18 11:33:04 <MJR_>	;;goxlag
Apr 18 11:33:05 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 18 11:33:13 <MJR_>	someone needs to restart gribble
Apr 18 11:33:16 <MJR_>	i think no?
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Apr 18 11:37:46 <Bugpowder>	prob ddos
Apr 18 11:38:53 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 11:38:53 <gribble>	There are currently 99252456 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20514882.8485 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.9792 seconds
Apr 18 11:40:04 <pgp>	gox is down hard, huh?
Apr 18 11:40:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 997 @ 0.01 = 9.97 BTC [+]
Apr 18 11:41:08 <lippoper1>	very hard
Apr 18 11:41:36 <pgp>	fuckin' joke...
Apr 18 11:41:42 <ThickAsThieves>	it ddos
Apr 18 11:41:47 <ThickAsThieves>	blockchain.info down all day
Apr 18 11:41:56 <ThickAsThieves>	get ready for the crash
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Apr 18 11:42:22 <pgp>	funny video while we wait http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U
Apr 18 11:43:03 <Bugpowder>	i freaking hope so
Apr 18 11:43:08 <Bugpowder>	I totally fucked up
Apr 18 11:43:24 <pgp>	how?
Apr 18 11:43:25 <Bugpowder>	bought a TON of coins at 65
Apr 18 11:43:40 <Bugpowder>	sold them at 70
Apr 18 11:43:41 <Bugpowder>	:(
Apr 18 11:43:43 <pgp>	lol
Apr 18 11:43:44 <Scrat>	how muchis a ton
Apr 18 11:43:52 <Bugpowder>	I'm at 0.29%
Apr 18 11:43:53 <pgp>	you'll have another chance
Apr 18 11:43:55 <lippoper1>	what did you buy Ripples?
Apr 18 11:43:58 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 18 11:44:25 <Bugpowder>	I thought the buy wall at 70 was fake
Apr 18 11:44:27 <Bugpowder>	it was not
Apr 18 11:44:49 <lippoper1>	LOL
Apr 18 11:44:55 <lippoper1>	evident by your sales
Apr 18 11:45:15 <lippoper1>	i just sold 2 at 95
Apr 18 11:45:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34589 BTC [+]
Apr 18 11:45:30 <lippoper1>	gonna use that liquidity to buy it up at whatever price gox comes back with
Apr 18 11:45:31 <lippoper1>	lol
Apr 18 11:45:50 <lippoper1>	for a .01% gain lmao
Apr 18 11:45:59 <lippoper1>	-1% for fees
Apr 18 11:46:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm cashing out more today
Apr 18 11:46:05 <lippoper1>	*facepalm
Apr 18 11:46:13 <ThickAsThieves>	after this all i have left is sdice
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Apr 18 11:47:39 <ThickAsThieves>	and some miners
Apr 18 11:47:39 <ThickAsThieves>	and a lil mpoe
Apr 18 11:47:39 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 18 11:47:39 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 69
Apr 18 11:47:39 <gribble>	There are currently 101606.17 bitcoins demanded at or over 69.0 USD, worth 7989462.52678 USD in total. | Data vintage: 85.4055 seconds
Apr 18 11:47:39 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 11:47:39 <gribble>	There are currently 99261721 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20535034.3746 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.7360 seconds
Apr 18 11:47:39 <Bugpowder>	jesus
Apr 18 11:47:39 <Bugpowder>	20M
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Apr 18 11:47:45 <ThickAsThieves>	dont beleve the hype
Apr 18 11:47:51 <ThickAsThieves>	believe
Apr 18 11:49:09 <MJR_>	is 20mil a new high?
Apr 18 11:49:16 <ThickAsThieves>	yeah
Apr 18 11:49:35 <ThickAsThieves>	but $10m+ of it are the manipulators
Apr 18 11:49:43 <ThickAsThieves>	surely they prefer to buy at 40
Apr 18 11:50:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000699 BTC [+]
Apr 18 11:50:56 <MJR_>	perhaps
Apr 18 11:50:56 <pgp>	20MM is bullshit
Apr 18 11:51:02 <MJR_>	i'm still getting good data
Apr 18 11:51:05 <MJR_>	over the api
Apr 18 11:51:08 <MJR_>	very quick too
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Apr 18 11:51:28 <Scrat>	MJR_: cached by cloudflare
Apr 18 11:51:33 <pgp>	price?
Apr 18 11:52:50 <MJR_>	how does cloudflare cache a websocket stream
Apr 18 11:53:05 <MJR_>	94.20/94.47
Apr 18 11:53:18 <MJR_>	94.06 last
Apr 18 11:53:28 <Scrat>	ah, thought you meant the http api
Apr 18 11:54:14 <MJR_>	nope, the socket.io is working beautifully so far
Apr 18 11:54:20 <MJR_>	been running since this morning
Apr 18 11:54:25 <ThickAsThieves>	gox is up
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Apr 18 11:54:36 <MJR_>	of course it isn't super readable, but i can make it out if i stare at the right spots
Apr 18 11:55:34 <MJR_>	it just started lagging
Apr 18 11:55:35 <MJR_>	a tiny bit
Apr 18 11:55:37 <pgp>	Gox = WORST EXCHANGE ON PLANET
Apr 18 11:55:40 <Bugpowder>	just got more $ out of gox
Apr 18 11:55:49 <Bugpowder>	Gox = BEST BITCOIN EXCHANGE ON PLANET
Apr 18 11:55:52 <Bugpowder>	sadly
Apr 18 11:57:25 <pgp>	lol
Apr 18 11:58:15 <pgp>	now that bitfloor and bitcoin24 are gone, soon gox will be ONLY bitcoin exchange on planet
Apr 18 12:00:39 <taub>	campbx should make their site less ugly meby the'd get some customers
Apr 18 12:02:17 <pgp>	campbx will like be next to fold
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Apr 18 12:02:49 <taub>	up we go
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Apr 18 12:04:18 <Doffx>	Why would it fold?
Apr 18 12:04:40 <taub>	i'm not sure, they seem pretty legit and in check with legal stuff
Apr 18 12:04:45 <taub>	and they've been up for 2 years almost now
Apr 18 12:04:52 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 18 12:04:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.90000, Best ask: 95.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 95.97999, 24 hour volume: 176637.04484907, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 95.91100, 24 hour vwap: 90.73430
Apr 18 12:04:56 <Doffx>	yeah that's why I asked.
Apr 18 12:04:58 <pizzaman1337>	come on 100
Apr 18 12:05:11 <Doffx>	;;next
Apr 18 12:05:12 <gribble>	support: 91, 86 | targets: 100-102, 105, 110-113, 120, ..., 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 18 2013, 08:08 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 7 hours, 57 minutes, and 10 seconds ago
Apr 18 12:05:22 <asciilifeform>	how about btc-e? is there something evil about it?
Apr 18 12:05:25 <pgp>	govt will crack down
Apr 18 12:05:30 <taub>	btce is russians
Apr 18 12:05:41 <pgp>	CTFC will want to regulate
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Apr 18 12:05:59 <pgp>	bitfloor prolly closed because of FinCEN
Apr 18 12:06:08 <Doffx>	Tell it to go regulate the real criminals it keeps letting off the hook
Apr 18 12:06:19 <Doffx>	Wait CTFC are the criminals
Apr 18 12:06:26 <pgp>	ye
Apr 18 12:06:28 <pgp>	yes
Apr 18 12:06:30 <taub>	nothing against russians, but the fact that you can just take bitcoins and close up shop... who knows, maybe if t hey got enough in deposits they'll suddenly claim a "hack" or something... but that's the danger with any exchnage
Apr 18 12:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00275213 = 5.5043 BTC [-]
Apr 18 12:07:08 <pgp>	doesn't change the fact that running an axchange in the US will be a real headache
Apr 18 12:07:09 <taub>	i love this cascade of little breakouts
Apr 18 12:07:21 <pgp>	unless you have deep pockets and scall
Apr 18 12:07:23 <pgp>	scale
Apr 18 12:07:41 <taub>	yep, maybe max keisers one wil be good, london based
Apr 18 12:07:49 <taub>	they usually are really liberal with their financial regulations
Apr 18 12:07:55 <Doffx>	I doubt they do it that way
Apr 18 12:07:56 <troc>	or not
Apr 18 12:08:00 <pgp>	binary options?
Apr 18 12:08:23 <troc>	blockchain and gox had to shutdown their uk bank accounts
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Apr 18 12:08:32 <taub>	oh, snap
Apr 18 12:08:40 <Doffx>	They will let more people get in to BTC create a giant calamity in wich people lose tons then find some people to tell how they lost it all and how unfortunate they are.
Apr 18 12:08:48 <Doffx>	Then they will outlaw all crypto coins
Apr 18 12:08:54 <Doffx>	for our own protection
Apr 18 12:09:16 <taub>	could happen yea
Apr 18 12:09:23 <pgp>	outlaw - no...  make it really difficult to convert fiat to crypto, yes...
Apr 18 12:10:08 <pgp>	not sure how you can actually outlaw bitcoin...  at least in US...
Apr 18 12:10:47 <pgp>	i think that in the end there is a strong first ammendment argument to be made that bitcoin is a form of speech
Apr 18 12:10:49 <taub>	label them as hiyt or what they are called
Apr 18 12:11:13 <taub>	hyip
Apr 18 12:11:34 <taub>	;;ticker
Apr 18 12:11:35 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.74999, Best ask: 95.96230, Bid-ask spread: 0.21231, Last trade: 95.96230, 24 hour volume: 175919.78736906, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 96.00000, 24 hour vwap: 90.72937
Apr 18 12:12:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 464 @ 0.00275213 = 1.277 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 12:16:08 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 12:16:09 <gribble>	There are currently 99263832 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20523346.483 USD in total. | Data vintage: 93.8686 seconds
Apr 18 12:16:35 <error4733>	!asks 265.9
Apr 18 12:16:48 <error4733>	;;asks 265.9
Apr 18 12:16:50 <gribble>	There are currently 101929.89 bitcoins offered at or under 265.9 USD, worth 16175085.4369 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0077 seconds
Apr 18 12:18:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00068475 = 6.4367 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 12:46:39 <Scrat>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 12:46:41 <gribble>	There are currently 99264378 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20874550.2445 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0196 seconds
Apr 18 12:46:50 <Scrat>	wut
Apr 18 12:47:10 <Scrat>	how the fuck did this jump sky high in 1 day
Apr 18 12:47:27 <pizzaman1337>	oh, that's awesome
Apr 18 12:47:59 <troc>	is this gox getting round to bumper subscriptions from the ath 10days ago ?
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Apr 18 12:50:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.39 = 2.78 BTC [-]
Apr 18 12:50:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.36 = 4.08 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 13:07:03 <pigeons>	this one too huh https://bitcoin-24.com/
Apr 18 13:10:50 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 18 13:10:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.50001, Best ask: 96.54000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 96.54000, 24 hour volume: 167037.83440532, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 97.59000, 24 hour vwap: 91.04704
Apr 18 13:11:00 <punkman>	https://twitter.com/Bitcoin24com
Apr 18 13:11:09 <punkman>	"It is time for something new. A new big business and a very serious Company, which can not be fuc***! We will be back for sure!"
Apr 18 13:11:15 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 18 13:11:15 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 28 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
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Apr 18 13:16:18 <error4733>	;;next
Apr 18 13:16:19 <gribble>	support: 91, 86 | targets: 100-102, 105, 110-113, 120, ..., 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 18 2013, 08:08 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 9 hours, 8 minutes, and 17 seconds ago
Apr 18 13:17:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:17:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.28 = 15.36 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:17:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.275 = 3.825 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 13:30:53 <deadweasel>	where is bitfinex?
Apr 18 13:31:17 <deadweasel>	are they likely to be shut down?
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Apr 18 13:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3940 @ 0.00068475 = 2.6979 BTC [+]
Apr 18 13:33:39 <Doffx>	I always wondered when this would start happening
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Apr 18 13:34:01 <Doffx>	Banks finally saying eff you, closing that account buh bye Exchange.
Apr 18 13:34:31 <Doffx>	I wonder how hard it would be to make a Bank
Apr 18 13:34:42 <Doffx>	FUnd it just for Bitcoin trade
Apr 18 13:34:50 <Doffx>	Bet it would be near impossible
Apr 18 13:35:26 <deadweasel>	very
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Apr 18 13:46:12 <lippoper1>	look at BFL
Apr 18 13:46:15 <lippoper1>	they've basically done that
Apr 18 13:46:25 <lippoper1>	they've taken millions of dollars of pre-order funds
Apr 18 13:46:29 <lippoper1>	and are using it to mine
Apr 18 13:46:33 <lippoper1>	for themselves lol
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Apr 18 13:47:00 <Doffx>	Uhh, I think we would notice that fairly quickly.
Apr 18 13:47:02 <lippoper1>	while scaring potential miners because of their mystical pink unicorn like ASICS that could ship at any minute now
Apr 18 13:47:12 <asciilifeform>	fiat banks declaring total war on BTC was only a matter of time. seriously, it isn't like nobody saw it coming.
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Apr 18 13:47:35 <lippoper1>	they just want their portion of the fees aciilifeform
Apr 18 13:47:49 <Doffx>	They are getting the fees
Apr 18 13:47:51 <lippoper1>	i'm sure once they get a little slice of heaven they'll stop being so jealous
Apr 18 13:47:59 <pgp>	i agree
Apr 18 13:48:27 <Doffx>	It cost you every time you transfer money so they were making money off BTC but losing in another way much bigger if BTC actually got adopted as a true payment sytem
Apr 18 13:48:29 <pgp>	fiat banks don't want to deal with BTC exchanges
Apr 18 13:48:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.252 = 2.504 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:48:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.241 = 2.482 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:48:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24001 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:49:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:49:04 <Doffx>	They stand to lose Power, Control, and Money if BTC was adopted.
Apr 18 13:49:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:49:12 <Doffx>	I think the Power is the most important part.
Apr 18 13:49:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:49:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.211 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:49:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:49:37 <Doffx>	Wow, glad I ditched mine yesterday.
Apr 18 13:49:51 <Doffx>	bought a 8 at 72, then sold at 1.30
Apr 18 13:50:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.2 = 9.6 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:50:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.2 = 10.8 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:50:11 <asciilifeform>	fiat banks won't surrender to the idea of moving $1 across the ocean costing $0. They want it to cost ~$50 (in pure profit for the parasites,) as it does now.
Apr 18 13:50:15 <Doffx>	Now to get a bunch more cheap!
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Apr 18 13:51:46 <lippoper1>	Why is ASIC MINER doing so bad Doffx?
Apr 18 13:52:03 <Doffx>	Its not, people are just speculating.
Apr 18 13:52:07 <deadweasel>	1.2 is not bad
Apr 18 13:52:24 <Doffx>	Its up quite a bit
Apr 18 13:52:36 <Doffx>	I just wanted to get out at the peak
Apr 18 13:52:51 <Doffx>	I was just day tried for a fast btc, worked out this time.
Apr 18 13:53:00 <Doffx>	err day trading weps
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Apr 18 13:57:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.00001 BTC [-]
Apr 18 13:58:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1 = 15 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 14:10:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 468 @ 0.00069463 = 0.3251 BTC [+]
Apr 18 14:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.335 = 1.005 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 14:28:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.44 = 1.76 BTC [+]
Apr 18 14:28:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.199 = 0.796 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 14:38:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23397 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 14:48:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.96503 BTC [-]
Apr 18 14:49:02 <jurov>	lol tradehill going to argentina http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-16/bitcoin-dreams-endure-to-savers-crushed-by-cpi-argentina-credit.html
Apr 18 14:50:26 <jurov>	"Kenna is seeking to partner with a local bank to open an exchange in the country."
Apr 18 14:50:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.96502 = 3.8601 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 14:55:27 <jurov>	;;bc,convert eur
Apr 18 14:55:27 <gribble>	1 BTC = 95.10000 U.S. dollars = 72.9070837 Euros
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Apr 18 14:56:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00072228 = 16.1068 BTC [+]
Apr 18 14:56:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 293 @ 0.00072397 = 0.2121 BTC [+]
Apr 18 14:56:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18807 @ 0.00073 = 13.7291 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 15:08:44 <thestringpuller>	mpoe at new highs
Apr 18 15:08:46 <pizzaman1337>	$avg
Apr 18 15:08:47 <mpexbot>	pizzaman1337: 91.99
Apr 18 15:08:53 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 18 15:08:53 <gribble>	support: 91, 86 | targets: 100-102, 105, 110-113, 120, ..., 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 18 2013, 08:08 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 11 hours and 51 seconds ago
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Apr 18 15:56:03 <FabianB>	!t m S.DICE
Apr 18 15:56:04 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00294867 / 0.00346247 (20988 shares, 61.89 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00347087 / 0.00439999 (88231 shares, 306.24 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00340411 / 0.005598 (1807229 shares, 6,152.01 BTC)
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Apr 18 15:56:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.16 = 0.48 BTC [-]
Apr 18 15:56:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.159 = 1.113 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 16:02:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19987 BTC [+]
Apr 18 16:02:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.199879 BTC [+]
Apr 18 16:02:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
Apr 18 16:04:36 <FabianB>	what's wrong with s.dice?
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Apr 18 16:05:28 <iz>	i know the answer to this one; it does each of it's transactions in the blockchain
Apr 18 16:05:35 <iz>	:b
Apr 18 16:07:25 <FabianB>	still making big profit
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Apr 18 16:11:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6193 @ 0.00073 = 4.5209 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 16:13:47 <pgp>	24h volume back down to 135k at gox...
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Apr 18 16:18:52 <pizzaman1337>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 16:18:52 <gribble>	There are currently 99273220 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21139142.3182 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.7309 seconds
Apr 18 16:18:56 <pizzaman1337>	wow
Apr 18 16:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [+]
Apr 18 16:19:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.399 = 1.995 BTC [-]
Apr 18 16:19:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.39890001 = 3.989 BTC [-]
Apr 18 16:19:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3989 = 0.7978 BTC [-]
Apr 18 16:19:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.395 = 5.925 BTC [-]
Apr 18 16:19:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-]
Apr 18 16:19:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-]
Apr 18 16:19:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.38 = 2.66 BTC [-]
Apr 18 16:19:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.37 = 18.5 BTC [-]
Apr 18 16:19:46 <Doffx>	Is tradehill up and running currently?
Apr 18 16:22:49 <soypirate>	what's the deal with s.dice. anyone have a guess for where the price is going?
Apr 18 16:23:21 <soypirate>	sorry, i see that someone just asked that
Apr 18 16:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2707 @ 0.00073338 = 1.9853 BTC [+]
Apr 18 16:25:20 <ThickAsThieves>	its going up and down
Apr 18 16:25:27 <ThickAsThieves>	afaik
Apr 18 16:25:34 <soypirate>	what's the safest bet for like 10btc right now: s.dice or BTC-BOND?
Apr 18 16:25:37 <ThickAsThieves>	up again after that
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Apr 18 16:25:44 <ThickAsThieves>	safe = bind
Apr 18 16:25:46 <ThickAsThieves>	bond
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Apr 18 16:26:27 <soypirate>	will s.dice go back up, or do you guys think it will go down before it goes back up?
Apr 18 16:28:29 <jurov>	the outcome will be the same, no?
Apr 18 16:28:43 <Scrat>	50% up, 50% down
Apr 18 16:28:45 <soypirate>	i guess you're right... weird question.
Apr 18 16:28:48 <Scrat>	i am a wizard fyi
Apr 18 16:28:55 <soypirate>	hehe
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Apr 18 16:31:15 <jurov>	i'd buy s.dice to expect more profit... but you need strong nerves, its movememnts defy all logic
Apr 18 16:31:25 <soypirate>	I feel with s.dice that, the way the btc/usd price has been wild, the dividends will not really pay for the profit loss in terms of share to btc resale value...
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Apr 18 16:31:48 <jurov>	neither btc-bond will do that
Apr 18 16:32:16 <soypirate>	you mean, the dividends don't pay for the loss in share value?
Apr 18 16:32:44 <jurov>	you can't expect them to
Apr 18 16:33:38 <jurov>	s.dice has nothing to do with usd
Apr 18 16:33:45 <tiberiusiv>	yes it does.
Apr 18 16:33:54 <tiberiusiv>	it has alot to do with USD
Apr 18 16:34:03 <jurov>	if you fear btc crash so much, do some spreadsheet yourself and buy some puts instead
Apr 18 16:34:13 <soypirate>	in as much as affecting the value of BTC
Apr 18 16:34:14 <tiberiusiv>	most SDICE participants have USD based incomes
Apr 18 16:34:15 <jurov>	or divide the investment
Apr 18 16:34:35 <tiberiusiv>	higher BTC price = LOWER sdice revenues
Apr 18 16:35:01 <tiberiusiv>	= LOWER stock price in BTC terms but still higher in purchasing power terms(meaning how many goods SDICE shares buy)
Apr 18 16:35:32 <tiberiusiv>	soypirate do you comprehend that concept?
Apr 18 16:35:34 <jurov>	s.dice firmly captured a part of btc economy and any usd movements affect it mildly at most
Apr 18 16:35:45 <tiberiusiv>	they effect it.
Apr 18 16:35:50 <tiberiusiv>	affect it*
Apr 18 16:36:00 <tiberiusiv>	hence why it goes down during rallies
Apr 18 16:36:36 <soypirate>	yeah, I was about to say, it was at 0.006 and went to 0.003 during the latest btc/usd bubble
Apr 18 16:37:01 <soypirate>	price per share
Apr 18 16:37:10 <tiberiusiv>	soypirate: SDICE revenues decrease as BTC increases in value
Apr 18 16:37:18 <tiberiusiv>	in BTC TERMS
Apr 18 16:37:31 <tiberiusiv>	but increase in terms of what they can purchase
Apr 18 16:37:32 <soypirate>	I see
Apr 18 16:38:00 <tiberiusiv>	sdice also is exposed to competitors
Apr 18 16:38:16 <soypirate>	so, long-term would be better to trade a few for m.poe or something?
Apr 18 16:38:18 <tiberiusiv>	as it has 0 competitive advantage outside of a brand
Apr 18 16:38:42 <joecool>	same could be said about mtgox
Apr 18 16:38:43 <joecool>	lol
Apr 18 16:38:44 <tiberiusiv>	i wouldnt hold large positions in anything run by mircea popescu
Apr 18 16:38:54 <tiberiusiv>	joecool: and that is why mtgox is losing market share
Apr 18 16:39:03 <tiberiusiv>	so is satoshidice
Apr 18 16:39:12 <joecool>	both have been proven to be run by idiots
Apr 18 16:39:23 <tiberiusiv>	and both are losing market share
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Apr 18 16:39:29 <jurov>	who are you talking to? tiberiusiv? i am ignoring him for a reason
Apr 18 16:39:45 <joecool>	oh yeah he usually trolls
Apr 18 16:39:58 <tiberiusiv>	no i state facts in here that tend not to be pleasant to many
Apr 18 16:40:39 <joecool>	lol last time i was in here you were calling mircea a gypsy over and over and telling us he makes a living stealing chickens
Apr 18 16:40:41 <joecool>	or some other bs
Apr 18 16:40:47 <tiberiusiv>	he does
Apr 18 16:41:25 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is stupid too evidenced by his massive loss in march
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Apr 18 16:44:59 <jurov>	for example i have ignored after he came up with this: <tiberiusiv> mircea has lost in 1month  probably more bitcoins then 95% of this channel hold combined.
Apr 18 16:45:17 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 18 16:45:35 <jurov>	such "fact" i know for certain was just some ass pull
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Apr 18 16:50:50 <deadweasel>	jurov, you're not missing anything
Apr 18 16:51:07 <deyyo>	;;next
Apr 18 16:51:08 <gribble>	support: 91, 86 | targets: 100-102, 105, 110-113, 120, ..., 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 18 2013, 08:08 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 12 hours, 43 minutes, and 6 seconds ago
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Apr 18 16:53:47 <dub>	soypirate: the ass fell out of s.deuce well before the latest bubble
Apr 18 16:54:33 <dub>	for the reason we all know but don't like to say
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Apr 18 16:55:03 <dub>	jurov nearly got there
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Apr 18 16:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.82 = 3.64 BTC [+]
Apr 18 16:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.3789999 BTC [+]
Apr 18 16:59:45 <soypirate>	i'm sorry, I'm not aware
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Apr 18 17:00:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.199 BTC [+]
Apr 18 17:00:55 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 18 17:00:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.70000, Best ask: 96.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 96.75000, 24 hour volume: 128874.27980737, 24 hour low: 86.00000, 24 hour high: 97.59000, 24 hour vwap: 92.62337
Apr 18 17:00:57 <dub>	<jurov> i'd buy s.dice to expect more profit... but you need strong nerves, its movememnts defy all logic
Apr 18 17:01:10 <dub>	s/movements/issuer
Apr 18 17:01:12 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 17:01:12 <gribble>	There are currently 99274016 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21096363.1057 USD in total. | Data vintage: 71.6021 seconds
Apr 18 17:01:49 <soypirate>	so, even though I would sell at a loss, I should take out anything significant from s.dice?
Apr 18 17:02:11 <soypirate>	just to save some of it?
Apr 18 17:02:29 <dub>	you could stick it out and hope for better than 89 satoshi dividends
Apr 18 17:02:50 <soypirate>	890
Apr 18 17:03:03 <dub>	very little chance of the share price going up though
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Apr 18 17:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25000002 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:04:18 <dub>	and the every present risk of it getting shut down
Apr 18 17:04:21 <soypirate>	fuck, I'm puzzled... the loss from the sale would be enough of an incentive to want to stick it out
Apr 18 17:04:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00216014 = 0.216 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:06:16 <deadweasel>	what about bbet?
Apr 18 17:06:19 <deadweasel>	same situation?
Apr 18 17:07:24 <dub>	less risk of shutting down imo, operators aren't US citizens with completely fuckign retarded politics
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Apr 18 17:08:18 <deadweasel>	as far as I can tell there's not a stock worth holding.
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Apr 18 17:09:30 <dub>	probably true
Apr 18 17:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.3789999 BTC [+]
Apr 18 17:10:26 <soypirate>	so... you're saying I should get out while I still have the skin on my back...
Apr 18 17:10:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.003939 = 0.0433 BTC [+]
Apr 18 17:10:56 <deadweasel>	if you don't have much in, it might be a good long term experiment.  at least BBET
Apr 18 17:11:03 <deadweasel>	i thought voorhees got out of the US?
Apr 18 17:12:13 <error4733>	panama :beach:
Apr 18 17:12:28 <deadweasel>	sure it ain't panama city FL?
Apr 18 17:12:45 <deadweasel>	S.Dice is pretty safe from shutdown then..
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Apr 18 17:13:46 <soypirate>	how did s.dice just go from .0027 to .0021? it's dropping...
Apr 18 17:14:09 <FabianB>	little depth
Apr 18 17:15:07 <deadweasel>	which market you looking at?
Apr 18 17:15:25 <FabianB>	mpex
Apr 18 17:16:23 <soypirate>	it's just plummeting... this is not good
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Apr 18 17:17:28 <deadweasel>	it was a nice thing when the PTs got to sell it on their sites.  all the 'brokers' made a killing, leaving us with shit
Apr 18 17:17:33 <deadweasel>	it's the NYSE is regulated
Apr 18 17:17:48 <deadweasel>	it's *why
Apr 18 17:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00071305 = 0.6417 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:18:30 <soypirate>	so, s.dice is not really looking like its going to stabilize. it's just going down.
Apr 18 17:19:12 <dub>	deadweasel: he still travels to and from the US, publicly spouting his anti govt bullshit etc
Apr 18 17:19:31 <dub>	still a US citizen
Apr 18 17:19:56 <dub>	not that ny of these are requiremtnts for getting shutdown by the US (ref: kim dotcom)
Apr 18 17:20:19 <deadweasel>	I think people are consolidating their BTC holdings into cold wallets...  dumping worthless stock and locking up tight as banks start closing accts..
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Apr 18 17:20:34 <deadweasel>	dub he's really not helping anyone
Apr 18 17:21:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2297 BTC [+]
Apr 18 17:22:54 <dub>	soypirate: its possible that the price will recover after a decent div or two
Apr 18 17:23:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 603 @ 0.00216016 = 1.3026 BTC [+]
Apr 18 17:23:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00216015 = 0.0216 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:23:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 387 @ 0.00216015 = 0.836 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:23:51 <dub>	soypirate: it miht be a small window to dump before voorhees does however
Apr 18 17:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.45 = 2.9 BTC [+]
Apr 18 17:24:13 <FabianB>	unlikely
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Apr 18 17:25:15 <ll>	jeez
Apr 18 17:25:23 <ll>	!t h kcim
Apr 18 17:25:24 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:KCIM] 1D: 1.24980000 / 1.31354736 / 1.45000000 (19 shares, 24.95739978 BTC), 7D: 1.04900000 / 1.17625177 / 1.45000000 (112 shares, 131.74019879 BTC), 30D: 0.99500000 / 1.13419784 / 1.45000000 (289 shares, 327.78317701 BTC)
Apr 18 17:25:30 <tiberiusiv>	lol dub
Apr 18 17:27:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1088 @ 0.00216015 = 2.3502 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:27:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00216013 = 2.1601 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:27:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00216012 = 6.4804 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:27:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00216011 = 2.1601 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:27:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1912 @ 0.001201 = 2.2963 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25000002 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25000001 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:28:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:28:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.245 = 1.47 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:31:50 <dub>	tiberiusiv: good time to buy!
Apr 18 17:32:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071305 = 7.1305 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.36 = 2.52 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.351 = 2.106 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:34:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:34:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:34:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:37:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 88 @ 0.001201 = 0.1057 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 17:41:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 110 @ 0.003938 = 0.4332 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:41:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.0007075 = 3.4314 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:41:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00070505 = 1.0576 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:42:42 <soypirate>	it remains a challenge to recoup the sign-up fees at mpex.
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Apr 18 17:43:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000699 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 17:45:03 <Uglux>	;;ticker
Apr 18 17:45:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.50000, Best ask: 100.73567, Bid-ask spread: 0.23567, Last trade: 100.73567, 24 hour volume: 134360.83858928, 24 hour low: 86.00000, 24 hour high: 100.69000, 24 hour vwap: 93.52243
Apr 18 17:45:13 <jurov>	soypirate, for 10 btc investment you can start with coinbr
Apr 18 17:46:00 <soypirate>	what are the dividends like comparatively?
Apr 18 17:46:45 <jurov>	soypirate what do you mean?
Apr 18 17:48:04 <soypirate>	ok, sorry. I need to look into it a bit more...
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Apr 18 17:50:01 <soypirate>	I just want to find a setup where I can more-or-less "set it and forget it" you know what I mean? How do I evenly distribute the risk between stocks and bonds to get a decent, regular payout...
Apr 18 17:50:55 <jurov>	sry, no such thing in btc yet.
Apr 18 17:51:37 <soypirate>	hehe.. yeah, that's what I see
Apr 18 17:51:55 <jurov>	managed investment like btc-bond is close, but still it depends on only one man
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Apr 18 17:53:13 <jurov>	only mpex seems to have a team and plans for any opportunity
Apr 18 17:55:15 <jurov>	s,dice is more people too afaik... but as you can see it's clouded in fud "gonna be closed by usg"
Apr 18 17:55:38 <soypirate>	I see
Apr 18 17:56:44 <error4733>	;;seen namworld
Apr 18 17:56:45 <gribble>	namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 hours, 5 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <Namworld> gox make make the price go down. What's the use for LTC? More trading occuring, maybe not only upward.
Apr 18 17:56:47 <Diablo-D3>	[05:50:01] <soypirate> I just want to find a setup where I can more-or-less "set it and forget it" you know what I mean? How do I evenly distribute the risk between stocks and bonds to get a decent, regular payout...
Apr 18 17:57:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:57:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31222222 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:57:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.31111 = 6.2222 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:57:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3111 = 0.9333 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:57:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [-]
Apr 18 17:57:13 <deadweasel>	https://coinbr.com/ref?c=294TNRz1oP  soypirate you can trade on Coinbr pretty easily.
Apr 18 17:57:19 <Diablo-D3>	soypirate: get an account at Vanguard, split 60% Vanguard Total Stock Market Mutual Fund, 40% Vanguard Total Bond Market Mutual Fund
Apr 18 17:57:23 <deadweasel>	only 3 stocks there.  the only 3 worth buying.
Apr 18 17:57:47 <dub>	sounds like he is already mpex direct
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Apr 18 17:57:53 <deadweasel>	lol
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Apr 18 17:58:04 <Diablo-D3>	soypirate: you need to put in at least $5k in both (=$10k) to invest in the mutual fund form, but there is no minimum for the ETF form of it
Apr 18 17:58:59 <jborkl>	diablo-d3 - you have been paid - I will pm you my info on the forum
Apr 18 17:59:12 <Diablo-D3>	jborkl: ahem, you typoed.
Apr 18 17:59:17 <soypirate>	I see, thank you
Apr 18 17:59:26 <Diablo-D3>	jborkl: you sent 54.37 not 84.37
Apr 18 17:59:39 <jborkl>	I sent 2 transactions
Apr 18 17:59:45 <Diablo-D3>	oh, havent seen the second one yet
Apr 18 17:59:47 <jborkl>	one for 30 and one for 54.37
Apr 18 18:00:08 <jborkl>	the first is coming from btctc.. the 30
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Apr 18 18:00:33 <jborkl>	so they have to do the withdraw - not automatic
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Apr 18 18:04:52 <Diablo-D3>	out of 16.
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Apr 18 18:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6734 @ 0.00071305 = 4.8017 BTC [+]
Apr 18 18:06:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00073264 = 5.6047 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 18:06:39 <MJR__>	hey all
Apr 18 18:08:58 <dub>	aloha
Apr 18 18:10:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13016 @ 0.00073287 = 9.539 BTC [+]
Apr 18 18:10:57 <kakobrekla>	hi
Apr 18 18:12:07 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --last
Apr 18 18:12:08 <gribble>	102.80000
Apr 18 18:12:10 <kakobrekla>	:|
Apr 18 18:12:54 <kakobrekla>	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Apr 18 18:12:55 <kakobrekla>	jesus.
Apr 18 18:13:57 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 18:13:57 <gribble>	There are currently 99189589 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20727724.3897 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.1620 seconds
Apr 18 18:14:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00073437 = 0.6609 BTC [+]
Apr 18 18:14:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00073438 = 0.5875 BTC [+]
Apr 18 18:14:50 <Bugpowder>	kakobrekla: My new favorite plot.  http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
Apr 18 18:14:59 <kakobrekla>	fuckin hell
Apr 18 18:15:04 <kakobrekla>	i forgot my yubikey at home
Apr 18 18:15:04 <Doffx>	That's a nice tidal wave of bids
Apr 18 18:15:08 <kakobrekla>	FUCK.
Apr 18 18:15:15 <Bugpowder>	u want to buy or sell?
Apr 18 18:15:31 <Doffx>	I think he wants to buy.
Apr 18 18:15:31 <kakobrekla>	shot myself really
Apr 18 18:15:31 <Bugpowder>	google authenticator brah
Apr 18 18:15:33 <jborkl>	That is why I use 2fa and a yubikey
Apr 18 18:15:46 <Doffx>	What if he forgets his phone?
Apr 18 18:16:04 <kakobrekla>	well, i can just watch until sun/mon :(
Apr 18 18:16:05 <jborkl>	what if he forgets his key
Apr 18 18:16:14 <MJR__>	that sucks
Apr 18 18:16:26 <MJR__>	can someone read it to you over the phone?
Apr 18 18:16:32 <Doffx>	But on sun/mon it might be 120+?
Apr 18 18:16:45 <kakobrekla>	or 80 or 280 or 28
Apr 18 18:16:51 <jborkl>	has to plugged into usb where you can touch it
Apr 18 18:16:51 <taub>	im not in panic buy mode yet
Apr 18 18:17:03 <taub>	50% retracement is at 160.
Apr 18 18:17:08 <Doffx>	hehe, ver true kakobrekla
Apr 18 18:17:08 <MJR__>	ah ok.
Apr 18 18:17:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.003999 = 0.024 BTC [+]
Apr 18 18:17:21 <MJR__>	well I'd let my sister or someone do it for me
Apr 18 18:17:27 <MJR__>	family at least
Apr 18 18:17:30 <kakobrekla>	noone that can do that
Apr 18 18:17:31 <pgp2>	that blows
Apr 18 18:18:01 <kakobrekla>	blah
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Apr 18 18:18:07 <kakobrekla>	my own fault
Apr 18 18:18:21 <MJR__>	yubikey to trade or transfer?
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Apr 18 18:18:50 <kakobrekla>	trade
Apr 18 18:19:08 <MJR__>	if calls were not a million dollars I'd do that
Apr 18 18:19:17 <pgp2>	then create virgin account and transfer to it
Apr 18 18:19:37 <kakobrekla>	cant trasnfer dollars :)
Apr 18 18:19:44 <kakobrekla>	transfer*
Apr 18 18:19:52 <kakobrekla>	such a weak currecny!
Apr 18 18:20:08 <pgp2>	right...  gox codes gone....
Apr 18 18:20:50 <MJR__>	not for euros right? could buy on OTC using a t+3 type thing, think you are trustworthy enough
Apr 18 18:21:05 <kakobrekla>	t+3?
Apr 18 18:21:22 <kakobrekla>	time + 3 days?
Apr 18 18:21:25 <MJR__>	settle trade on mon
Apr 18 18:21:26 <MJR__>	yes
Apr 18 18:21:39 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Apr 18 18:21:45 <kakobrekla>	i guess that is the last resort
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Apr 18 18:22:03 <taub>	FUCK
Apr 18 18:22:07 <taub>	put in a bid instead of an ask
Apr 18 18:22:09 <MJR__>	can offer gox euro code right?
Apr 18 18:22:12 <taub>	fucking gox'd again
Apr 18 18:22:14 <kakobrekla>	this is going to bubble again or something
Apr 18 18:22:22 <deyyo>	or not
Apr 18 18:22:27 <pgp2>	or not
Apr 18 18:22:29 <Namworld>	Please, no more bubbling
Apr 18 18:22:32 <kakobrekla>	or not not
Apr 18 18:22:49 <Namworld>	But if it does... I got 100 more BTC going into MtGox right now.
Apr 18 18:22:52 <Bugpowder>	its still in bounce mode
Apr 18 18:23:02 <kakobrekla>	kinda strong bounce
Apr 18 18:23:08 <Bugpowder>	well
Apr 18 18:23:12 <Bugpowder>	look at the last bubble
Apr 18 18:23:19 <Namworld>	strong bounces too...
Apr 18 18:23:35 <kakobrekla>	ok people
Apr 18 18:23:40 <Bugpowder>	although
Apr 18 18:23:41 <kakobrekla>	here is a yes no question for you all
Apr 18 18:23:46 <Bugpowder>	I buses we already had that bounce
Apr 18 18:23:49 <kakobrekla>	is bitcoin worth more than 100$? yes or no
Apr 18 18:23:51 <kakobrekla>	right now
Apr 18 18:23:55 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Apr 18 18:23:56 <Scrat>	;;eightball 100+ or no
Apr 18 18:23:56 <gribble>	You're kidding, right?
Apr 18 18:23:57 <kakobrekla>	not in years to come
Apr 18 18:24:02 <Bugpowder>	well
Apr 18 18:24:21 <Bugpowder>	most of the price is due to expectation of future growth of the currency
Apr 18 18:24:27 <deyyo>	id say no, it goes up to quickly again ...
Apr 18 18:24:30 <deyyo>	too*
Apr 18 18:24:34 <Bugpowder>	like any small cap or biotech
Apr 18 18:24:45 <pizzaman1337>	I like $100, it's easy to do math with that
Apr 18 18:24:46 <taub>	it's not really small cap anymore
Apr 18 18:24:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i know its yes because i just sold some for 100 :P
Apr 18 18:25:07 <taub>	upper small cap maybe
Apr 18 18:25:14 <Namworld>	My take on the thing: http://i.imgur.com/XhAY8Zl.png
Apr 18 18:25:17 <kakobrekla>	fuck i said YES or NO and i got a load of not 'yes' and not 'no' text?
Apr 18 18:25:19 <taub>	i mean it's gotten a shit ton of attention
Apr 18 18:25:32 <Namworld>	2nd bubble of many bubbles to come for BTC
Apr 18 18:25:43 <Namworld>	Hopefuly it will survive the crashes
Apr 18 18:25:59 <taub>	the more bubbles the better :D
Apr 18 18:26:12 <taub>	for traders at least
Apr 18 18:26:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0012 = 0.24 BTC [-]
Apr 18 18:27:43 <Bugpowder>	NO
Apr 18 18:28:00 <taub>	why not
Apr 18 18:28:09 <Bugpowder>	unless you consider growth prospects
Apr 18 18:28:23 <taub>	of course it wont be good for the confidence
Apr 18 18:29:17 <kakobrekla>	hash power is not supporting this price yet
Apr 18 18:29:50 <taub>	how so
Apr 18 18:30:11 <kakobrekla>	i use this to meause it http://smpake.com/etc/btc/
Apr 18 18:30:20 <kakobrekla>	measure
Apr 18 18:30:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00199 BTC [+]
Apr 18 18:31:49 <taub>	i see
Apr 18 18:32:05 <taub>	so in terms of mining revenue this last bubble was small compared to 2011
Apr 18 18:32:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00070505 = 6.698 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 18:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00361221 = 9.0305 BTC [+]
Apr 18 18:33:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 387 @ 0.00371221 = 1.4366 BTC [+]
Apr 18 18:34:18 <kakobrekla>	yes
Apr 18 18:34:20 <kakobrekla>	4 times smaller
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Apr 18 18:34:30 <kakobrekla>	there about
Apr 18 18:34:42 <Diablo-D3>	hey guys
Apr 18 18:34:49 <Diablo-D3>	how much did avalon's latest batch sell for
Apr 18 18:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.311 = 0.933 BTC [+]
Apr 18 18:35:15 <error4733>	Namworld, one week after 2011 crash, Mgox was hacked !
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Apr 18 18:35:50 <Doffx>	Was like 88 btc to start
Apr 18 18:36:02 <Doffx>	they sold per module I think a 4 module was more, I dont remember exactly
Apr 18 18:36:19 <Diablo-D3>	man, wtf is with the asicminer bidding then
Apr 18 18:36:34 <Bugpowder>	yeah… the gox hack was a big deal
Apr 18 18:36:43 <Bugpowder>	I forgot about that in my initial analysis
Apr 18 18:36:50 <Bugpowder>	<sigh>
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Apr 18 18:37:42 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 18 18:37:45 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 232033 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1822 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 11 hours, 1 minute, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9878659.93315 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.07727
Apr 18 18:37:55 <Doffx>	That's why people think its a bit ridiculous to pay 70 btc for a 10gh module
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Apr 18 18:38:05 <Diablo-D3>	I think I'll bid on one just to own one
Apr 18 18:38:19 <Diablo-D3>	;;genrate 10000
Apr 18 18:38:20 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
Apr 18 18:38:25 <Doffx>	Why not just use the DIY
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Apr 18 18:38:38 <Doffx>	seems more fun and you can build yourself an Avalon
Apr 18 18:38:51 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 70 / 0.560385478255
Apr 18 18:38:51 <gribble>	124.914014935
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Apr 18 18:38:58 <Doffx>	Get it in July sometime
Apr 18 18:38:58 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 70 / 0.560385478255 / 30
Apr 18 18:38:58 <gribble>	4.16380049783
Apr 18 18:39:05 <Diablo-D3>	4 months isn't really that bad
Apr 18 18:39:07 <Doffx>	maybe haha
Apr 18 18:39:20 <Doffx>	did you read the DIY stuff?
Apr 18 18:39:21 <error4733>	;;diff
Apr 18 18:39:21 <gribble>	8974296.01488785
Apr 18 18:39:34 <Diablo-D3>	Doffx: not really interested in that
Apr 18 18:39:44 <Doffx>	I bought 30 chips and im going to give it a try, seems interesting
Apr 18 18:39:52 <Doffx>	Ill get like 8.333 GH out of that
Apr 18 18:39:58 <Doffx>	Thereabouts
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Apr 18 18:41:22 <Doffx>	kakobrekla, what should the current hash rate be supporting? I am not sure I understand how to get that from the graphs
Apr 18 18:41:38 <Diablo-D3>	if friedcat auctions these every week, I might buy one every week
Apr 18 18:42:07 <Doffx>	I think they are going to come up with a price and sell units without an auction next
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Apr 18 18:42:20 <error4733>	i want know how fell the guy with a 5K btc preorder on BFL, he could sold them for 1.25M$ @ 250$/btc
Apr 18 18:42:28 <Doffx>	Plus they still have those USB units they haven’t said anything new about
Apr 18 18:42:33 <dub>	I skimmed the DIY thread, didn't seem like enough there to build without further engineering
Apr 18 18:42:37 <kakobrekla>	id say 0.3 eur
Apr 18 18:42:40 <kakobrekla>	so a third less
Apr 18 18:42:42 <ThickAsThieves>	http://satoshidice.com/ domain expired
Apr 18 18:42:45 <kakobrekla>	that is 70$
Apr 18 18:42:54 <Diablo-D3>	Doffx: ahh. Then what I should do is push bids up.
Apr 18 18:43:33 <kakobrekla>	fuck
Apr 18 18:43:44 <Diablo-D3>	I could bid 64.5 on 7 of them.
Apr 18 18:43:47 <Doffx>	OK, that makes sense now.
Apr 18 18:43:51 <error4733>	Hehe, thick i had a note in my phone to check 1 week before :)
Apr 18 18:44:03 <Doffx>	Just so you could have the hardware?
Apr 18 18:44:12 <ThickAsThieves>	anyone talk to erik?
Apr 18 18:44:14 <ThickAsThieves>	ehats the deal
Apr 18 18:44:17 <ThickAsThieves>	whats*
Apr 18 18:44:24 <error4733>	is not
Apr 18 18:44:26 <Diablo-D3>	Doffx: well it'll force everyone else to try to outbid me
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Apr 18 18:44:37 <Doffx>	Lol, I am sure they will.
Apr 18 18:44:39 <kakobrekla>	well tbh i expect it to get lowe than 0.3 with asic
Apr 18 18:44:39 <kakobrekla>	but
Apr 18 18:44:39 <kakobrekla>	that might be too late.
Apr 18 18:44:47 <Diablo-D3>	Doffx: the auction is setting sales prices
Apr 18 18:45:07 <Doffx>	He didnt say it would exactly match the highest bid
Apr 18 18:45:16 <Diablo-D3>	no, its implied an average of all 10
Apr 18 18:45:19 <Diablo-D3>	or a mean
Apr 18 18:45:21 <Diablo-D3>	or something
Apr 18 18:45:30 <ThickAsThieves>	lol no one cares that satoshidice.com is gone?
Apr 18 18:45:38 <jamboramboooo>	hehe no
Apr 18 18:45:38 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: GOOD RIDDANCE
Apr 18 18:45:40 <Diablo-D3>	PARTY TIME
Apr 18 18:45:54 <Diablo-D3>	I have no ascii art to describe how I feel :<
Apr 18 18:46:03 <deadweasel>	nobody cares.
Apr 18 18:46:06 <error4733>	http://satoshidice.com/
Apr 18 18:46:16 <kakobrekla>	ThickAsThieves wtf?
Apr 18 18:46:21 <deadweasel>	still htere!  yet nobody cares still.
Apr 18 18:46:23 <error4733>	SD is up for me
Apr 18 18:46:26 <dub>	ThickAsThieves: ICANN is an evil gubbermint oligarchy, Erik refuses to conform and has created his own DNS root
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Apr 18 18:46:37 <deadweasel>	i think he means the stock.
Apr 18 18:46:52 <ll>	expired domains can be renewed within a couple days of expiration
Apr 18 18:47:07 <dub>	libertarian is the new emo
Apr 18 18:48:02 <Doffx>	Lol, well that explains the selloff
Apr 18 18:48:30 <error4733>	maybe !
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Apr 18 18:49:16 <kakobrekla>	howdy neighbour
Apr 18 18:49:36 <ThickAsThieves>	[18:46] <kakobrekla> ThickAsThieves wtf?    hmm?
Apr 18 18:49:46 <kakobrekla>	the SD thingy, nevermind
Apr 18 18:49:53 <pizzaman1337>	jurov: not a big deal, but I noticed http://mpex.coinbr.com/ is down
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Apr 18 18:52:13 <MJR__>	eh, don't really need the site to play
Apr 18 18:52:59 <ThickAsThieves>	http://blockchain.info/ down for me
Apr 18 18:53:35 <ThickAsThieves>	back
Apr 18 18:53:45 <error4733>	The owner of the Domain Name can
Apr 18 18:53:46 <error4733>	renew it from within the control panel or approach his service provider for the same.
Apr 18 18:53:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont see any sdice bets there though
Apr 18 18:54:31 <error4733>	same for me on blockchain
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Apr 18 18:55:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.0039 = 0.0117 BTC [-]
Apr 18 18:55:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0039 = 0.0078 BTC [-]
Apr 18 18:55:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00381 = 0.0381 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 18:58:01 <error4733>	btctalk ? nothing ?
Apr 18 18:59:03 <dub>	i think we can assume erik is buys getting waterboarded
Apr 18 18:59:08 <dub>	busy*
Apr 18 18:59:09 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/satoshidice.com
Apr 18 18:59:13 <ThickAsThieves>	multiple DNS
Apr 18 18:59:18 <ThickAsThieves>	some are spam links
Apr 18 18:59:26 <ThickAsThieves>	IPs*
Apr 18 19:00:41 <dub>	thats probably normal
Apr 18 19:01:11 <dub>	registrar camping on expired domain until the 30 day renewal period is up
Apr 18 19:01:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10175 BTC [+]
Apr 18 19:01:48 <ThickAsThieves>	some people still get the site though
Apr 18 19:02:11 <dub>	until it falls out of their cache yes
Apr 18 19:02:32 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe this is the day mpex takes the money and runs
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Apr 18 19:02:40 <Doffx>	I got redirected to a maleware site
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Apr 18 19:02:47 <dub>	what has mpex got do to with s.deuce?
Apr 18 19:02:59 <Doffx>	That was the first time I ever tried to go to SD
Apr 18 19:03:01 <error4733>	404 on S.dice could be bad imo
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Apr 18 19:03:53 <error4733>	But more important, no bet ?
Apr 18 19:04:05 <dub>	I don't see any malware
Apr 18 19:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.82 = 7.28 BTC [+]
Apr 18 19:05:46 <Doffx>	The second time I went to it dub I didn’t get it, was odd.
Apr 18 19:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44889999 = 0.8978 BTC [+]
Apr 18 19:06:57 <Diablo-D3>	well Im glad, really
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Apr 18 19:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.245 = 2.205 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:07:04 <Diablo-D3>	it means SD is finally dead
Apr 18 19:07:16 <Diablo-D3>	sell your stock and run while you can
Apr 18 19:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.23 = 2.3 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:08:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.22780632 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:08:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.223045 = 0.4461 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:08:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.221 = 1.768 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:08:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.22 = 3.3 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:08:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.214 = 5.35 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:09:03 <kakobrekla>	ah shutup Diablo-D3
Apr 18 19:09:16 <error4733>	PrtSc 4 glory Diablo
Apr 18 19:09:42 <ThickAsThieves>	ugh
Apr 18 19:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.21 = 1.26 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.2 = 3.4 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:10:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 44 @ 0.181 = 7.964 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:10:13 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 18 19:10:21 <error4733>	Cmon it was a joke
Apr 18 19:10:51 <ThickAsThieves>	doesnt look like a joke
Apr 18 19:11:18 <error4733>	Script are not on front end, maybe a technical issue
Apr 18 19:11:49 <error4733>	not the first time, sooooooo some1 skype erik please ?
Apr 18 19:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.181 = 1.086 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:12:54 <error4733>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1879460#msg1879460
Apr 18 19:13:59 <error4733>	"I'll try to get out in the high 20s" Maybe not this time
Apr 18 19:14:16 <Namworld>	SDICE getting no love
Apr 18 19:14:39 <error4733>	shame, it's bitcoin factory
Apr 18 19:14:41 <thestringpuller>	Namworld: lower divs
Apr 18 19:15:02 <ThickAsThieves>	lol i just doubled down on sdice last week
Apr 18 19:15:02 <error4733>	no exit on MPEX...
Apr 18 19:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.18 = 9 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:16:39 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 18 19:16:39 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 43 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> jurov indeed we aren't.
Apr 18 19:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 100 @ 0.165 = 16.5 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:17:16 <kakobrekla>	speaking of
Apr 18 19:17:25 <guruvan>	the orderbook at havelock is whack
Apr 18 19:17:26 <kakobrekla>	we can now debunk another mistery
Apr 18 19:17:30 <kakobrekla>	mpoe-pr is real
Apr 18 19:17:36 <kakobrekla>	:)
Apr 18 19:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.125 = 0.875 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:18:33 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: old news
Apr 18 19:18:45 <kakobrekla>	not for the nonbelivers!
Apr 18 19:18:46 <thestringpuller>	new news: ebay earnings shock the market
Apr 18 19:18:55 <asciilifeform>	kakobrekla: where is the proof?
Apr 18 19:18:56 <thestringpuller>	short sell!
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Apr 18 19:19:10 <kakobrekla>	in the pudding
Apr 18 19:19:15 <Bugpowder>	Erik might be on a trip
Apr 18 19:19:22 <Bugpowder>	I suspect that is whats up
Apr 18 19:19:29 <kakobrekla>	thats correct
Apr 18 19:19:32 <error4733>	;;eightball S.dice is dead ?
Apr 18 19:19:32 <gribble>	About as likely as pigs flying.
Apr 18 19:19:41 <Scrat>	here comes da pudding zip zop bobbity bop
Apr 18 19:19:53 <ThickAsThieves>	:(
Apr 18 19:20:04 <kakobrekla>	asciilifeform i shook her hand today, that good enough?
Apr 18 19:20:18 <deadweasel>	i shook a baby today, is that enough?
Apr 18 19:20:26 <kakobrekla>	ya but babies do exist
Apr 18 19:20:34 <kakobrekla>	we mostly agree on that
Apr 18 19:20:38 <deadweasel>	until you shake them
Apr 18 19:20:51 <kakobrekla>	then they are shaked babies?
Apr 18 19:20:58 <deadweasel>	ah, point taken.
Apr 18 19:21:02 <kakobrekla>	what the point it
Apr 18 19:21:11 <deadweasel>	are you trying to say MPOE-PR is a real woman?
Apr 18 19:21:11 <asciilifeform>	kakobrekla: maybe you also shook Bigfoot's hand
Apr 18 19:21:32 <kakobrekla>	indeed it is
Apr 18 19:21:32 <kakobrekla>	the one from the pic
Apr 18 19:21:37 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 18 19:21:57 <deadweasel>	I shook bigfoot's relatively small johnson after he plowed MPOE-PRs hairy axe wound.
Apr 18 19:22:00 <Doffx>	Was she cute, or did she have really large hands?
Apr 18 19:22:18 <deadweasel>	it was all I could reach
Apr 18 19:22:26 <kakobrekla>	her hands were normal sized lmao
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Apr 18 19:23:31 <Doffx>	hehe
Apr 18 19:23:43 <deadweasel>	but she know has a bigfoot sized vag.
Apr 18 19:23:47 <deadweasel>	now*
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Apr 18 19:23:55 <deadweasel>	fuck me I need food.
Apr 18 19:24:19 <Scrat>	105 wall down
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Apr 18 19:24:22 <Scrat>	;;ticker --last
Apr 18 19:24:22 <gribble>	105.50000
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Apr 18 19:24:47 <Doffx>	106 wall going
Apr 18 19:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	jesus the impudence
Apr 18 19:24:50 <peterl>	hi ya'all
Apr 18 19:24:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6879 @ 0.00070505 = 4.85 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:24:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8118 @ 0.00070053 = 5.6869 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:25:30 <thestringpuller>	and now mpoe crashes
Apr 18 19:25:40 <Bugpowder>	oh hai
Apr 18 19:25:50 <Bugpowder>	RALLY ON WAYNE
Apr 18 19:26:11 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 19:26:14 <gribble>	There are currently 99198432 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21659691.5446 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0120 seconds
Apr 18 19:26:23 <kakobrekla>	sooo buggy p,
Apr 18 19:26:25 <kakobrekla>	whats the news
Apr 18 19:26:29 <Bugpowder>	price goes up, total bids goes up
Apr 18 19:26:38 <Bugpowder>	the news is, I am long from 97
Apr 18 19:26:42 <Bugpowder>	half stack
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Apr 18 19:26:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i went in for 200 myself
Apr 18 19:27:01 <Bugpowder>	lets get this bitch back to 150
Apr 18 19:27:03 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 18 19:27:05 <ThickAsThieves>	so much for my tinfoil hat phase
Apr 18 19:27:05 <Bugpowder>	or 130
Apr 18 19:27:24 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder, mah niggan
Apr 18 19:27:31 <thestringpuller>	nigga*
Apr 18 19:27:37 <Bugpowder>	thats for clarifying that
Apr 18 19:27:39 <Bugpowder>	thanks
Apr 18 19:27:41 <Bugpowder>	*
Apr 18 19:28:13 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Apr 18 19:29:14 <mircea_popescu>	is a niggan like a vegetarian black dude ?
Apr 18 19:29:27 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla: why u no forek?
Apr 18 19:29:32 <thestringpuller>	forex*
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Apr 18 19:30:20 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 18 19:30:20 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.50000, Best ask: 108.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.47000, Last trade: 108.98000, 24 hour volume: 159590.55540562, 24 hour low: 86.00000, 24 hour high: 108.98900, 24 hour vwap: 95.89234
Apr 18 19:31:01 <kakobrekla>	what kind of question is that
Apr 18 19:31:12 <jamboramboooo>	who me?
Apr 18 19:31:48 <ThickAsThieves>	mp any word abot this sdice website shit?
Apr 18 19:32:17 <Scrat>	jesus fuck, 110 wall going down fast
Apr 18 19:32:42 <Bugpowder>	bitcoin, the gift that keeps on giving
Apr 18 19:32:45 <Bugpowder>	jeebus
Apr 18 19:34:46 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves mmm
Apr 18 19:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	what shit is that ?
Apr 18 19:35:06 <Bugpowder>	expired domain name
Apr 18 19:35:14 <Bugpowder>	bets not being processed
Apr 18 19:35:17 <Bugpowder>	etc.
Apr 18 19:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	i see it ?
Apr 18 19:35:45 <ThickAsThieves>	bad domains havent fully propgated yet
Apr 18 19:35:52 <mircea_popescu>	odd
Apr 18 19:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	so like a dns attack or what ?
Apr 18 19:36:29 <Scrat>	the attack of forgetting to pay for the domain
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Apr 18 19:36:33 <mircea_popescu>	i get satoshidice.com.	19177	IN	A	94.142.154.208
Apr 18 19:36:35 <ThickAsThieves>	well, the domain is def expired
Apr 18 19:36:50 <Scrat>	most registrars give you a 90 day grace period
Apr 18 19:37:09 <mircea_popescu>	 Expiration Date: 18-Apr-2013  ahahaha idiots
Apr 18 19:37:19 <MJR__>	lol
Apr 18 19:37:25 <MJR__>	rally's on!
Apr 18 19:37:26 <mircea_popescu>	well ya, hopefully tjhey didn't lose the domain.
Apr 18 19:37:35 <ThickAsThieves>	Domain Name: SATOSHIDICE.COM
Apr 18 19:37:36 <ThickAsThieves>	 Registration Date: 18-Apr-2012
Apr 18 19:37:36 <ThickAsThieves>	 Expiration Date: 18-Apr-2013
Apr 18 19:37:36 <ThickAsThieves>	 Status:RENEWAL HOLD
Apr 18 19:37:46 <ThickAsThieves>	looks like he can still get it back
Apr 18 19:38:21 <MJR__>	today is the 18th...
Apr 18 19:39:56 <mircea_popescu>	it's a shitty domain anyway, get
Apr 18 19:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://.sd
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Apr 18 19:41:26 <Scrat>	fuck
Apr 18 19:41:33 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 18 19:41:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.00000, Best ask: 110.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.55000, Last trade: 110.55000, 24 hour volume: 164008.50250337, 24 hour low: 86.00000, 24 hour high: 110.35000, 24 hour vwap: 96.46533
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Apr 18 19:44:34 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 18 19:44:35 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0012 / 0.00272143 / 0.00371221 (33263 shares, 90.52 BTC), 7D: 0.0012 / 0.00334017 / 0.00439999 (95347 shares, 318.48 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00338779 / 0.005598 (1793824 shares, 6,077.10 BTC)
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Apr 18 19:45:21 <dub>	its probably just erik wanting to buy back
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Apr 18 19:45:41 <dub>	whats the month shaping up like?
Apr 18 19:46:17 <pizzaman1337>	guys, the domain name http://vagi.na/ is available
Apr 18 19:46:23 <pizzaman1337>	but it's EUR 3,250.00
Apr 18 19:46:33 <pizzaman1337>	somebody buy that :P
Apr 18 19:46:49 <dub>	nobody cares what domain they are fapping to
Apr 18 19:46:54 <error4733>	MP every day
Apr 18 19:46:59 <Scrat>	dub: I do
Apr 18 19:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82 BTC [+]
Apr 18 19:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.32 = 1.28 BTC [-]
Apr 18 19:50:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.32 = 1.6 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 19:50:48 <mircea_popescu>	aite well, catch you all tomorrow or something.
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Apr 18 19:50:56 <kakobrekla>	cya
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Apr 18 19:52:45 <error4733>	S.dice is down, there is no  tomorow
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Apr 18 19:54:35 <peterl>	wow, there is a big difference in price between the SD PTs on btct and bitfunder
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Apr 18 19:54:45 <kakobrekla>	well i hedged btcusd a little but thats nothing
Apr 18 19:54:49 <kakobrekla>	meh
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Apr 18 20:04:29 <dub>	heh people screaming about the 100btc/month for s.deuce sysop
Apr 18 20:05:04 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Apr 18 20:07:43 <deadweasel>	que?
Apr 18 20:07:46 <error4733>	erik set up this wage @20$
Apr 18 20:08:52 <deadweasel>	wait he pays his sysadmin $20/hr?
Apr 18 20:09:15 <dub>	100btc/month
Apr 18 20:09:18 <dub>	apparently
Apr 18 20:09:25 <error4733>	no 100btc/20$
Apr 18 20:10:06 <dub>	eh?
Apr 18 20:10:14 <deadweasel>	what does 100btc/20$ mean?  i need moar werdz!
Apr 18 20:10:21 <deadweasel>	it ain't twatter.
Apr 18 20:10:35 <dub>	he gets paid 5
Apr 18 20:10:53 <deadweasel>	^troll
Apr 18 20:10:53 <error4733>	Gavin Andresen : My contract is written in terms of dollars and the exchange rate into bitcoins is calculated. It was being calculated every three months, but because of the current price volatility, it was decided my salary would be re-pegged every month.
Apr 18 20:11:29 <deadweasel>	so he get's paid 5 BTC a mo?
Apr 18 20:11:34 <dub>	gavin does IT for dice?
Apr 18 20:11:41 <error4733>	he should ask every h
Apr 18 20:11:51 <error4733>	no no, different news
Apr 18 20:12:25 <error4733>	in january, erik hire some IT 100btc
Apr 18 20:12:49 <deadweasel>	he should have the OPTION to recalculate at any moment.
Apr 18 20:13:19 <error4733>	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/gavin-andresen-bitcoin_n_3093316.html  source
Apr 18 20:13:23 <dub>	error4733: wat is this I am only twelve and I don't even
Apr 18 20:13:55 <taub>	nite nite
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Apr 18 20:14:09 <taub>	http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~lharris/ABSTRACT/Zerosum.htm this is fascinating btw
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Apr 18 20:14:24 <deadweasel>	"chief scientist ?"
Apr 18 20:17:32 <dub>	yep
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Apr 18 20:18:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.44 = 1.32 BTC [+]
Apr 18 20:18:46 <deadweasel>	he's got a big brain, that's for sure.
Apr 18 20:19:33 <dub>	I was just looking for SD financials wrt this 100btc for tech, are there any?
Apr 18 20:20:00 <dub>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dHB2dVdiaEltUHAtTWlBcFhXQVBYeGc#gid=0 is kinda light
Apr 18 20:20:21 <deadweasel>	i'm pretty sure that's the extent of it
Apr 18 20:23:04 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 18 20:23:04 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 109.20000, Best ask: 109.74000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54000, Last trade: 109.20000, 24 hour volume: 179419.32158499, 24 hour low: 86.00000, 24 hour high: 112.99999, 24 hour vwap: 97.84237
Apr 18 20:23:43 <deadweasel>	i can't make anything of the volume anymore after seeing 612,987 the last week.
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Apr 18 20:48:21 <peterl>	is it just my imagination or are confirmations really slow right now?
Apr 18 20:49:49 <jborkl>	6 blocks in 3 hours.so yes
Apr 18 20:50:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1082 @ 0.00070053 = 0.758 BTC [-]
Apr 18 20:50:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00069986 = 2.0646 BTC [-]
Apr 18 20:50:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3504 @ 0.00069677 = 2.4415 BTC [-]
Apr 18 20:50:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7682 @ 0.00069676 = 5.3525 BTC [-]
Apr 18 20:50:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3082 @ 0.00069168 = 2.1318 BTC [-]
Apr 18 20:50:42 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 18 20:50:45 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 232037 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1818 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 10 hours, 50 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9407281.59142 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.82473
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Apr 18 20:59:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00070369 = 5.2777 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 21:02:56 <error4733>	No more fees from Sdice, miners are angry
Apr 18 21:03:28 <kakobrekla>	when is the next asic hitting the network
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Apr 18 21:03:34 <kakobrekla>	who is next
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Apr 18 21:05:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00071558 = 11.0557 BTC [+]
Apr 18 21:05:43 <deadweasel>	nobody knows, except the makers
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Apr 18 21:06:04 <deadweasel>	maybe not even them.
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Apr 18 21:19:45 <ColdHardMetal>	WTF happened to s.dice?
Apr 18 21:23:40 <deadweasel>	i killed it.
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Apr 18 21:26:53 *	Azelphur literally just cashed out of s.dice
Apr 18 21:26:56 <Azelphur>	like a boss.
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Apr 18 21:46:37 <TradeFortress>	Satoshi dice's domain expired LOL
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Apr 18 21:49:53 <maximian>	where's the s.dice tech guy? aren't we paying 100BTC/month for that?
Apr 18 21:52:13 <maximian>	pretty embarrassing mistake, although its one made by huge companies too: http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2013/04/regions_bank_website_down_doma.html
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Apr 18 21:52:31 <copumpkin>	100btc/month?
Apr 18 21:53:03 <maximian>	yeah, I just recall that part of the profits go to a tech guy
Apr 18 21:53:12 <copumpkin>	ah
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Apr 18 21:59:47 <maximian>	Yep, 100 BTC for a systems operator according to the february statement https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1583206#msg1583206
Apr 18 22:02:37 <error4733>	115$
Apr 18 22:03:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.003599 = 7.198 BTC [-]
Apr 18 22:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 772 @ 0.0037 = 2.8564 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 22:07:20 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol, what happenes if someone else registers the s dice name?
Apr 18 22:07:29 <Chaang-Noi>	and just takes the btc, massive fail
Apr 18 22:08:20 <Chaang-Noi>	115, that is more like it :)
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Apr 18 22:10:36 <maximian>	the domain is on hold… all Erik has to do (or the "systems operator") is pay the tiny renewal fee. He must be blind drunk somewhere in Panama right now.
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Apr 18 22:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [+]
Apr 18 22:12:22 <maximian>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 22:12:22 <gribble>	There are currently 99412344 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21299627.4006 USD in total. | Data vintage: 29.6572 seconds
Apr 18 22:12:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 76 @ 0.00120001 = 0.0912 BTC [-]
Apr 18 22:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.43999999 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 22:18:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
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Apr 18 22:22:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4700 @ 0.0012 = 5.64 BTC [-]
Apr 18 22:26:01 <dub>	error4733: so 100btc per month then
Apr 18 22:27:32 <dub>	maximian: he probably doesnt agree with domain renewal tax
Apr 18 22:29:52 <error4733>	yes but when they do the contract the btc was 20$ not 266$
Apr 18 22:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.44999999 = 2.9 BTC [-]
Apr 18 22:31:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.45 = 2.9 BTC [+]
Apr 18 22:31:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.47 = 5.88 BTC [+]
Apr 18 22:31:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 8 @ 1.48 = 11.84 BTC [+]
Apr 18 22:31:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 14 @ 1.5 = 21 BTC [+]
Apr 18 22:31:59 <error4733>	but anyway, 87btc is paid by a lucky bastard, the remining is peanuts
Apr 18 22:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1.49999 = 7.5 BTC [-]
Apr 18 22:36:28 <Chaang-Noi>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 76 @ 0.00120001 = 0.0912 BTC [-]
Apr 18 22:36:30 <Chaang-Noi>	holy shit
Apr 18 22:37:03 <guruvan>	yah
Apr 18 22:37:18 <guruvan>	not kewl
Apr 18 22:37:39 <Chaang-Noi>	and i took so much shit from everyone when i said that it was a bad idea to but at that ipo price and they would never make their money back unless they found a greater fool
Apr 18 22:37:40 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Apr 18 22:37:53 <Chaang-Noi>	i doubt mp's bitch will apologize
Apr 18 22:38:51 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: what, the sdice crash?
Apr 18 22:38:59 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Apr 18 22:39:06 <Diablo-D3>	I can one up you on that: I told people it was a stupid idea to begin with
Apr 18 22:39:11 <Chaang-Noi>	no way people will make back thier money in 2 years with just dividends, like i said
Apr 18 22:39:11 <guruvan>	I think it wasn't taking bets and dns was hosed
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Apr 18 22:39:31 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 i think you will fail on your call, i honestly think we will hit 500 before 50
Apr 18 22:40:20 <Chaang-Noi>	Diablo-D3 but i will admit 50.01was close :)
Apr 18 22:40:21 <error4733>	!asks 121
Apr 18 22:40:26 <error4733>	;;asks 121
Apr 18 22:40:26 <gribble>	There are currently 4000.8598 bitcoins offered at or under 121.0 USD, worth 480256.591369 USD in total. | Data vintage: 64.2739 seconds
Apr 18 22:40:43 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 18 22:40:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.90000, Best ask: 119.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 119.50000, 24 hour volume: 180153.33005180, 24 hour low: 90.01002, 24 hour high: 119.90000, 24 hour vwap: 101.83531
Apr 18 22:40:44 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: heh =P
Apr 18 22:40:55 <Diablo-D3>	I didnt think we'd cross the 50 floor
Apr 18 22:41:01 <Diablo-D3>	we'd just slam right into it
Apr 18 22:41:02 <Chaang-Noi>	we did not
Apr 18 22:41:11 <Diablo-D3>	and we slammed into it pretty hard
Apr 18 22:41:13 <Chaang-Noi>	we did not hit it, but got close :)
Apr 18 22:41:46 *	Diablo-D3 is scrounging up bitcoins
Apr 18 22:41:51 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.ducati.com/bikes/superbike/848__evo__corse_se/index.do           ducati needs to accept btcs...
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Apr 18 22:43:05 <Chaang-Noi>	i joined? wtf?
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Apr 18 22:44:49 <Chaang-Noi>	btc crash!
Apr 18 22:45:19 <Chaang-Noi>	as long as we are over 100 im pretty dfamn pleased to be honest
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Apr 18 22:46:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 22:50:41 <Bugpowder>	All the bears need to take another look at this chart and reevaluate your thinking http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
Apr 18 22:51:05 <Bugpowder>	Asks plunging, Bids rising.
Apr 18 22:51:26 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 0
Apr 18 22:51:26 <gribble>	There are currently 99371442 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21304491.7446 USD in total. | Data vintage: 24.3034 seconds
Apr 18 22:51:35 <Chaang-Noi>	21 million, fuck me
Apr 18 22:51:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i want calls! :)
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Apr 18 22:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.43999999 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 23:01:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 14 @ 0.10175 = 1.4245 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:04:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 175 @ 0.003668 = 0.6419 BTC [-]
Apr 18 23:08:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2296 BTC [-]
Apr 18 23:15:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.000715 = 10.725 BTC [-]
Apr 18 23:15:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00071558 = 1.8605 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:19:11 <Chaang-Noi>	who saw the winkelvlods brothers coming in and buying up all the btc? i loled hard wheni saw that
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Apr 18 23:20:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00187 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:20:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 14 @ 0.00188 = 0.0263 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:20:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0019 = 0.19 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:22:16 <Bugpowder>	its a crazy saga, this bitcoin shit
Apr 18 23:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4447 = 4.447 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 23:25:26 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 18 23:25:27 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 115.51100, Best ask: 115.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08900, Last trade: 115.51100, 24 hour volume: 190622.81861488, 24 hour low: 90.11000, 24 hour high: 119.99000, 24 hour vwap: 103.43683
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Apr 18 23:26:10 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah bugpowder its better than tv/drugs and almost as good as sex:)
Apr 18 23:27:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00219 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:27:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0022 = 0.022 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:27:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 40 @ 0.00225 = 0.09 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:27:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 49 @ 0.0023 = 0.1127 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:31:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0023 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:31:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 49 @ 0.00236 = 0.1156 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:32:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 22 @ 0.004094 = 0.0901 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:32:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 92 @ 0.004095 = 0.3767 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:34:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00236 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:34:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 79 @ 0.00237 = 0.1872 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 23:35:04 <Bugpowder>	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BILxnGnCMAEFFu9.png:large
Apr 18 23:35:08 <Bugpowder>	officer down at MIT
Apr 18 23:35:25 <Bugpowder>	possible that bombers shot him
Apr 18 23:35:28 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe dem terrorists?
Apr 18 23:35:30 <truffles>	only thing better than sex is food
Apr 18 23:38:03 <Chaang-Noi>	id ratjher have sex than food...
Apr 18 23:38:09 <Chaang-Noi>	even bad sex is better than good food
Apr 18 23:38:27 <truffles>	not to me..
Apr 18 23:38:31 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Apr 18 23:40:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 58 @ 0.01 = 0.58 BTC [+]
Apr 18 23:40:30 <bgupta>	wonder if suspect was making for http://libstaff.mit.edu/lewis/tunnel_map.pdf
Apr 18 23:40:49 <bgupta>	3 entrances in building 32
Apr 18 23:42:47 <bgupta>	how did I miss this http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/texas-explosion/index.html
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Apr 18 23:47:20 <truffles>	i wonder how much a drone suit costs
Apr 18 23:48:03 <truffles>	anti-drone attire that is
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Apr 18 23:50:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.10175 = 0.3053 BTC [+]
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Apr 18 23:52:43 <truffles>	http://ahprojects.com/projects/stealth-wear looking good
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Apr 18 23:53:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10175 = 0.2035 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 00:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4447 = 0.8894 BTC [+]
Apr 19 00:03:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.000715 = 12.87 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 00:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.23 BTC [+]
Apr 19 00:07:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.01 = 0.09 BTC [+]
Apr 19 00:07:51 <Namworld>	Bugpowder, is the orderbook that relevant?
Apr 19 00:08:14 <Bugpowder>	I need to do a regression on it
Apr 19 00:08:19 <Bugpowder>	I don't know
Apr 19 00:08:24 <Bugpowder>	seems like it leads
Apr 19 00:08:27 <Bugpowder>	price movement
Apr 19 00:08:27 <Namworld>	During the panic sell, tons got filled in USD... idk but if they're like me
Apr 19 00:08:40 <Namworld>	They have tons of low bids in USD, it all went back on the orderbook
Apr 19 00:08:48 <Namworld>	doesn't mean people will keep buying.
Apr 19 00:09:36 <Bugpowder>	there are some pretty high bids now too though
Apr 19 00:09:42 <Namworld>	Yeah
Apr 19 00:09:43 <Bugpowder>	and the total is just so huge
Apr 19 00:09:49 <Namworld>	People seem less ready to buy now than before.
Apr 19 00:09:50 <Bugpowder>	;;bids -0
Apr 19 00:09:50 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 19 00:09:57 <Bugpowder>	;;bids 0
Apr 19 00:09:57 <gribble>	There are currently 99369116 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21416697.4585 USD in total. | Data vintage: 109.8078 seconds
Apr 19 00:09:58 <Namworld>	And it's far less of an issue than before
Apr 19 00:10:05 <Bugpowder>	Yah, but 21.4M
Apr 19 00:10:14 <Namworld>	where everyone was hoarding so much, there was almost nothing in the orderbook on the ask side
Apr 19 00:10:16 <Bugpowder>	That's like over $1 per every bitcoin
Apr 19 00:10:30 <Bugpowder>	There is a lot of overhead to work thru tru
Apr 19 00:10:47 <Bugpowder>	you have looked at that link with the 15d history graph
Apr 19 00:10:50 <Namworld>	Well, the ask side is still a lot higher than those lows from just before the crash
Apr 19 00:11:17 <Namworld>	^^^^ yes, looking at that right now
Apr 19 00:11:36 <Namworld>	There's some rebound enthusiasm...
Apr 19 00:11:43 <Namworld>	After 7 days in the red...
Apr 19 00:11:43 <Bugpowder>	agree but coming down pretty fast
Apr 19 00:11:52 <Namworld>	Not sure...
Apr 19 00:11:55 <Namworld>	We'll see
Apr 19 00:11:56 <Bugpowder>	although a little mini bounce back over 100
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Apr 19 00:12:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0039 = 0.39 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 00:17:49 <Bowjob>	the fuck happened to dice
Apr 19 00:18:40 <Bugpowder>	domain expired
Apr 19 00:18:46 <Bugpowder>	bets stopped getting processed.
Apr 19 00:20:27 <Namworld>	It's dead!
Apr 19 00:20:58 <dub>	scammers gonna scam
Apr 19 00:24:15 <Bugpowder>	Erik is probably travelling
Apr 19 00:24:27 <Bugpowder>	If I had coins on MPEx I would buy here.
Apr 19 00:24:32 <Bowjob>	so.. buying opportunities?
Apr 19 00:24:37 <Bugpowder>	at .0012
Apr 19 00:24:42 <Bugpowder>	are you fucking kidding me
Apr 19 00:25:03 <Bowjob>	its 0.2 at havelock
Apr 19 00:25:04 <Bowjob>	mhm
Apr 19 00:25:46 <Bugpowder>	On one hand, paranoia has served me well in dumping BTC securities
Apr 19 00:26:02 <Bugpowder>	on the other, S.DICE is the crown jewel of MPEx.
Apr 19 00:26:14 <Bugpowder>	and Erik knows what he is doing
Apr 19 00:26:32 <Bugpowder>	at .02, that's a screaming buy
Apr 19 00:27:19 <Bowjob>	looking at the charts, seemd slike dice is raking profits with small volume
Apr 19 00:27:54 <dub>	!ticket m s.dice
Apr 19 00:27:56 <dub>	fuck
Apr 19 00:28:01 <dub>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 19 00:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0012 / 0.00260146 / 0.00371221 (40911 shares, 106.43 BTC), 7D: 0.0012 / 0.00324658 / 0.00439999 (102995 shares, 334.38 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00337926 / 0.005598 (1792314 shares, 6,056.70 BTC)
Apr 19 00:30:54 <Bowjob>	someone sold 100 shares at 1.65
Apr 19 00:30:55 <Bowjob>	lol
Apr 19 00:30:58 <Bowjob>	0.165
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Apr 19 00:36:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
Apr 19 00:38:19 <Bugpowder>	oh shit
Apr 19 00:40:44 <Bowjob>	virtex is usually higher than gox
Apr 19 00:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.32999999 = 0.99 BTC [+]
Apr 19 00:46:53 <KRS1>	how can u buy that shit when they make a mistake like that
Apr 19 00:47:05 <KRS1>	that must have f'n hurt..like in the ass kind of a way
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Apr 19 00:50:57 <Bowjob>	i thought the feds siezed the site at elast
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Apr 19 01:20:33 <mod6>	snowing like crazy out there still!
Apr 19 01:20:46 <mod6>	$depth s.dice
Apr 19 01:20:48 <mpexbot>	mod6: S.DICE Bids: ['4884 @ 0.00120001', '9900 @ 0.0012', '3723 @ 0.00119999', '260 @ 0.00119999', '4500 @ 0.001119']
Apr 19 01:20:49 <mpexbot>	mod6: Asks: ['703 @ 0.00342421', '1000 @ 0.00358269', '1000 @ 0.00367878', '1000 @ 0.00369999', '728 @ 0.0037']
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Apr 19 01:21:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2297 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 01:54:29 <tiberiusiv>	!seen mircea_popescu
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Apr 19 01:59:48 <truffles>	lol
Apr 19 02:13:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 02:27:26 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 19 02:27:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.31001, Best ask: 121.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.68999, Last trade: 121.00000, 24 hour volume: 225216.56140255, 24 hour low: 90.50370, 24 hour high: 124.25000, 24 hour vwap: 106.72229
Apr 19 02:27:31 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 19 02:27:33 <gribble>	There are currently 99449582 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21483665.2061 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0125 seconds
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Apr 19 02:33:48 <deyyo>	;;next
Apr 19 02:33:49 <gribble>	expecting to test 105 | support: 110-112 | resistance: 120, 126 | lower targets: 105, 100, 96, 91, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 19 2013, 4:11 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 22 minutes, and 47 seconds ago
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Apr 19 02:37:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 703 @ 0.00342421 = 2.4072 BTC [+]
Apr 19 02:37:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 297 @ 0.00358269 = 1.0641 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 02:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82 BTC [+]
Apr 19 02:43:17 <dub>	 <dr0ne_> Also, hi #bitcoin-dev! I'm out 2.07 BTC from an exploit - 2.00 of it is my dad's and i know he'll be
Apr 19 02:43:20 <dub>	                 pissed
Apr 19 02:43:25 <dub>	lol
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Apr 19 02:44:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Apr 19 02:45:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19379 @ 0.00070952 = 13.7498 BTC [-]
Apr 19 02:45:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2182 @ 0.00070679 = 1.5422 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 02:53:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 17 @ 0.003669 = 0.0624 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 02:55:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00236 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 02:55:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00236 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 03:01:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00236 BTC [-]
Apr 19 03:10:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 97 @ 0.00236 = 0.2289 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 03:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.4445555 = 11.1139 BTC [-]
Apr 19 03:15:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 33 @ 0.00199 = 0.0657 BTC [+]
Apr 19 03:15:57 <bitesak>	any news from MP or MPOPR ?
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Apr 19 03:22:25 <mod6>	mp was here earlier I think...
Apr 19 03:22:30 <mod6>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 19 03:22:30 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 31 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> aite well, catch you all tomorrow or something.
Apr 19 03:25:02 <jurov>	http://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/security_rationale_for_stock_act_repeal_is_weak_experts_say.php
Apr 19 03:25:34 <mod6>	jurov: how long was satoshidice down for? the site is back up now... and it looks like the domain was updated today: Updated Date: 19-apr-2013
Apr 19 03:25:47 <mod6>	(just trying to catch up here...)
Apr 19 03:26:18 <jurov>	dunno exactly, yesterday whole day it loaded but the tables in tabs did not
Apr 19 03:27:54 <mod6>	hmm werid. it loaded for me a few minutes ago. but now seems to be having some issues. maybe they're moving some stuff around.
Apr 19 03:28:31 <mod6>	and now back up again, it seems. *shrug*
Apr 19 03:30:36 <truffles>	no announcement anywhere?
Apr 19 03:30:49 <bitesak>	thanks mod6
Apr 19 03:31:03 <truffles>	businesses that do that make me wary heh
Apr 19 03:31:24 <mod6>	bitesak: np
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Apr 19 03:32:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0971 BTC [-]
Apr 19 03:32:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0966 BTC [-]
Apr 19 03:32:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 31 @ 0.09631 = 2.9856 BTC [-]
Apr 19 03:32:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.0963 = 0.4815 BTC [-]
Apr 19 03:32:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.096201 = 0.962 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 03:35:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 03:39:45 <mod6>	truffles: yeah, it'd be good to stay on top of the domain registration. it does look like it has been processing requests to its wallet though.
Apr 19 03:39:57 <mod6>	just looking at some of these tx's on blockchain.info.
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Apr 19 03:42:39 <mod6>	;;bc,blocks
Apr 19 03:42:39 <gribble>	232073
Apr 19 03:43:11 <mod6>	here's a tx from the previous block that show's they have a couple of conf's on an outgoing tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/c96257960ff4bd5ec9d49788b5586e359f0415ca4a6ed58f82b43cc8cb8433ee
Apr 19 03:44:34 <mod6>	we'll have to keep an eye on it.  much like a lot of things in btc-land these days.  i noticed that blockchain.info was up and down a lot yesterday too.
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Apr 19 03:46:23 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 19 03:46:23 <gribble>	expecting to test 105 | support: 110-112 | resistance: 120, 126 | lower targets: 105, 100, 96, 91, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 19 2013, 4:11 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 3 hours, 35 minutes, and 22 seconds ago
Apr 19 03:50:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.199 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 03:53:49 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 19 03:53:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.28804, Best ask: 129.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11196, Last trade: 129.10000, 24 hour volume: 248095.94313087, 24 hour low: 90.50370, 24 hour high: 129.50000, 24 hour vwap: 108.91670
Apr 19 03:54:01 <pizzaman1337>	feels like the good 'ol days
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Apr 19 03:56:05 <pizzaman1337>	;;bids 0
Apr 19 03:56:07 <gribble>	There are currently 60261827 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22037386.2717 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0121 seconds
Apr 19 03:57:02 <mod6>	back up to almost $130 huh
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Apr 19 04:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/429/bitcoin-24-will/ wow that's one
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Apr 19 04:09:44 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Apr 19 04:13:13 <ColdHardMetal>	breaks through 130. If that holds things just might get all crazy again.
Apr 19 04:13:28 <mircea_popescu>	ya. right.
Apr 19 04:13:33 <mircea_popescu>	and i might just shoot somebody.
Apr 19 04:13:42 <LoudmouthBear>	I call bulltrap
Apr 19 04:13:49 <deyyo>	this is unreal...from 95 ro 135 lol
Apr 19 04:13:50 <LoudmouthBear>	return to normal
Apr 19 04:13:53 <deyyo>	to*
Apr 19 04:14:05 <LoudmouthBear>	"What a bargain!"ers
Apr 19 04:14:25 <LoudmouthBear>	But the influx of new cash ain't going to support that.
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Apr 19 04:21:37 <taub>	this hurts to watch
Apr 19 04:21:53 <taub>	i mustnt think about howmuch i had now if i didn't take multiple targets
Apr 19 04:22:09 <ColdHardMetal>	yeah, no good will come of that.
Apr 19 04:25:04 <kakobrekla>	god fuckin dammit - the price.
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Apr 19 04:25:33 <kakobrekla>	bitcoin is screaming "somebody stop me" the mask style
Apr 19 04:25:35 <taub>	i'd get nervous when we break through 160, until then it's not that dramatic
Apr 19 04:25:50 <taub>	160 = 50% retracement
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Apr 19 04:26:06 <kakobrekla>	well its making me pissed
Apr 19 04:27:10 <Chaang-Noi>	what is the gox line?
Apr 19 04:27:14 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 0
Apr 19 04:27:25 <gribble>	There are currently 60227293 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21650645.4959 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0126 seconds
Apr 19 04:27:39 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah 21 million on the book, and with 50 million more to come...
Apr 19 04:27:47 <Chaang-Noi>	we should see $260 again soon
Apr 19 04:29:25 <Chaang-Noi>	that being said we should retest 100 first
Apr 19 04:29:34 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 100
Apr 19 04:29:36 <gribble>	There are currently 26588.781 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2957235.9955 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0055 seconds
Apr 19 04:36:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.2 = 12 BTC [+]
Apr 19 04:36:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2298 BTC [+]
Apr 19 04:36:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.25 = 12.5 BTC [+]
Apr 19 04:36:36 <jurov>	fuck i't repeating... as i'm going to travel bitcoin's going haywire again
Apr 19 04:36:51 <jurov>	and i don't feel like trying to speculate from train
Apr 19 04:36:57 <jurov>	on a phone
Apr 19 04:37:18 <taub>	give me your account data and i'll do it for you
Apr 19 04:37:36 <taub>	;D
Apr 19 04:37:37 <jurov>	lol
Apr 19 04:38:14 <Scrat>	surely you can afford to speculate on a laptop
Apr 19 04:39:10 <kakobrekla>	jurov when is your arrival
Apr 19 04:39:18 <jurov>	21:25 :(
Apr 19 04:39:22 <Scrat>	wtf is going on at bitstamp
Apr 19 04:39:35 <kakobrekla>	aww
Apr 19 04:39:47 <kakobrekla>	Scrat whats up with kids with css skills
Apr 19 04:40:13 <Scrat>	i am a kid with css skills
Apr 19 04:40:17 <Scrat>	too
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Apr 19 04:40:54 <jurov>	yea i can do it on laptop... but i prefer not to, the concentration isn't there
Apr 19 04:41:52 <kakobrekla>	Scrat ya but you dont run bitstamp
Apr 19 04:42:12 <Scrat>	imagine the look on nearby passengers faces when you tell them "i just made 5k, how does that make you feel, miserable plebians?"
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Apr 19 04:45:18 <ColdHardMetal>	"They why are you on the train asshole?" is the response I'd expect.
Apr 19 04:45:33 <kakobrekla>	srsly Scrat whats up with bitstamp
Apr 19 04:45:39 <kakobrekla>	something new?
Apr 19 04:45:39 <Scrat>	can't afford my own train yet, bro
Apr 19 04:46:36 <Scrat>	kakobrekla: nah just a spam of orders ive never seen before, then it stopped working for a minute
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Apr 19 04:47:12 <taub>	not to self if you see a price you want take it
Apr 19 04:47:18 <taub>	dont play the limit game and dont get a fill
Apr 19 04:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.44444 = 2.6666 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 04:54:01 <Chaang-Noi>	gox down?
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Apr 19 04:54:22 <Scrat>	yep
Apr 19 04:54:25 <Chaang-Noi>	502 Bad Gateway
Apr 19 04:54:26 <Chaang-Noi>	hmmm
Apr 19 04:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.44444 = 1.3333 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 05:14:38 <Chaang-Noi>	free fall
Apr 19 05:16:04 <taub>	yay
Apr 19 05:16:34 <bitesak>	nothing unusual in bitcoinland
Apr 19 05:17:19 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 19 05:17:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.99999, Best ask: 123.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 122.99999, 24 hour volume: 279868.88069221, 24 hour low: 90.50370, 24 hour high: 136.43210, 24 hour vwap: 111.46245
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Apr 19 05:17:44 <bitesak>	that's a weak fall
Apr 19 05:17:57 <kakobrekla>	hit 108 on stamp
Apr 19 05:17:59 <kakobrekla>	for a sec
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Apr 19 05:31:28 <jimbo2k>	does someone now what happens when you deposit funds to a mount gox account from a different bank account as registered by mount gox?
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Apr 19 05:38:15 <taub>	ask in #mtgox
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Apr 19 05:38:39 <taub>	bitconcharts feed crapping out
Apr 19 05:38:54 <taub>	cant trade, love the volatility but so risky when feed and sites can go down any second
Apr 19 05:39:10 <kakobrekla>	if not the sites then the bitcoin
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Apr 19 06:00:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.25 = 6.25 BTC [+]
Apr 19 06:12:18 <bitesak>	jimbo2k,  the account should bare your same name otherwise you are in for some hassle
Apr 19 06:13:04 <jimbo2k>	hm it doesnt
Apr 19 06:13:16 <jimbo2k>	but what is the problem?
Apr 19 06:13:26 <jimbo2k>	i didnt read anythong according to such a rule
Apr 19 06:13:46 <jimbo2k>	i always thought deposits can be made from any bank account
Apr 19 06:13:59 <bitesak>	i read about it ages ago and it can't of gotten any more lenient
Apr 19 06:15:09 <bitesak>	the problem is that the origin of the money is not clearly tied to you and that you could ask people to pay you on your mtgox account rather than your own
Apr 19 06:15:18 <kakobrekla>	13:13.57 ( idioterna ) http://i.imgur.com/SywZ7Uk.jpg
Apr 19 06:15:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
Apr 19 06:15:49 <bitesak>	which cannot be very AML friendly
Apr 19 06:18:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
Apr 19 06:18:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00069844 = 13.1307 BTC [-]
Apr 19 06:19:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3355 BTC [+]
Apr 19 06:20:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 06:28:50 <damientrog>	jurov, I just noticed the 0.05 extra, thanks (I was only kidding though) :)
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Apr 19 06:31:54 <Sinbios>	;;bids 0
Apr 19 06:31:56 <gribble>	There are currently 60211375 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21151412.4678 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0123 seconds
Apr 19 06:33:15 <taub>	martial law in boston
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Apr 19 06:40:22 <Sinbios>	;;asks 0
Apr 19 06:40:25 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 0.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0023 seconds
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Apr 19 06:40:49 <Sinbios>	;;asks 999999999999
Apr 19 06:40:49 <gribble>	There are currently 104231.83 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999999.0 USD, worth 1.48292549668e+12 USD in total. | Data vintage: 24.5143 seconds
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Apr 19 06:44:52 <KRS1>	;;ticker
Apr 19 06:44:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.82204, Best ask: 122.74999, Bid-ask spread: 0.92795, Last trade: 121.82204, 24 hour volume: 300854.17439804, 24 hour low: 90.50370, 24 hour high: 136.43210, 24 hour vwap: 112.39188
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Apr 19 06:47:23 <kakobrekla>	wtf was this bitcoinity flash
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Apr 19 06:47:32 <kakobrekla>	neo fighting mr smith
Apr 19 06:47:40 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Apr 19 06:50:55 <deadweasel>	did we go 135 at 4:10 a?m EST
Apr 19 06:50:57 <deadweasel>	nice.
Apr 19 06:51:01 <deadweasel>	should set a set.
Apr 19 06:51:04 <deadweasel>	a sell
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Apr 19 06:57:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00070052 = 9.9474 BTC [+]
Apr 19 06:57:31 <jurov>	damientrog, i can subtract them easily if you don't want =D
Apr 19 06:59:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 88 @ 0.199 = 17.512 BTC [+]
Apr 19 06:59:41 <jurov>	lol just now i found that scrat's "miserable plebians" suggestion
Apr 19 07:00:02 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
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Apr 19 07:19:07 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 19 07:19:07 <gribble>	There are currently 60264295 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21325517.3679 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.2115 seconds
Apr 19 07:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00301322 = 5.5745 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 07:22:34 <wences>	;;bid 50
Apr 19 07:22:34 <gribble>	Error: "bid" is not a valid command.
Apr 19 07:22:36 <wences>	;;bids 50
Apr 19 07:22:38 <gribble>	There are currently 179545.9 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 13315794.6706 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0084 seconds
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Apr 19 07:25:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00069844 = 3.3525 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 07:31:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00409 = 0.0409 BTC [-]
Apr 19 07:32:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 58 @ 0.0041 = 0.2378 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 07:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44445 = 0.8889 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 08:05:37 <damientrog>	jurov, no that's okay I am happy as it is :)
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Apr 19 08:22:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00070052 = 4.4133 BTC [+]
Apr 19 08:22:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00070082 = 7.5689 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 08:36:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00070082 = 1.9623 BTC [+]
Apr 19 08:37:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00070326 = 10.7247 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 09:30:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 45 @ 0.003669 = 0.1651 BTC [-]
Apr 19 09:30:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 76 @ 0.003668 = 0.2788 BTC [-]
Apr 19 09:35:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
Apr 19 09:37:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C092T] 4 @ 0.6039017 = 2.4156 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 09:38:46 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 19 09:38:48 <gribble>	There are currently 94092907 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21216702.6403 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0114 seconds
Apr 19 09:39:01 <error4733>	!bids 100.5
Apr 19 09:39:14 <error4733>	;;bids 100.5
Apr 19 09:39:14 <gribble>	There are currently 20934.291 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.5 USD, worth 2234703.88907 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.2903 seconds
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Apr 19 09:40:20 <error4733>	;;market buy 20900
Apr 19 09:40:20 <gribble>	A market order to buy 20900 bitcoins right now would take 2712688.6673 USD and would take the last price up to 140.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 129.7937 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 92.6804 seconds
Apr 19 09:40:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00070238 = 2.8095 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 09:56:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 74 @ 0.003668 = 0.2714 BTC [-]
Apr 19 09:59:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00070326 = 6.2239 BTC [+]
Apr 19 10:00:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.75000001 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 10:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.75 = 7 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 10:10:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1376 @ 0.00070612 = 0.9716 BTC [+]
Apr 19 10:10:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00070238 = 5.3381 BTC [-]
Apr 19 10:10:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11624 @ 0.00069844 = 8.1187 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 10:28:34 <ThickAsThieves>	ozcoin hacked?
Apr 19 10:29:18 <troc>	vircurex down
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Apr 19 10:33:41 <damientrog>	why do so few people use therocktrading actually?
Apr 19 10:34:13 <damientrog>	never had any troubles there, but maybe there's something I don't know about them
Apr 19 10:34:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [+]
Apr 19 10:35:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 70 @ 0.01 = 0.7 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 10:42:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16283 @ 0.00071374 = 11.6218 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 11:21:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.00071374 = 14.2391 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 11:28:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00391 = 0.043 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 11:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 49 @ 0.4443333 = 21.7723 BTC [-]
Apr 19 11:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
Apr 19 11:51:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.385 = 1.925 BTC [-]
Apr 19 11:51:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.380001 = 3.04 BTC [-]
Apr 19 11:51:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.38 = 2.66 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 11:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.444333 = 11.1083 BTC [+]
Apr 19 11:54:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.444333 BTC [+]
Apr 19 11:54:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.444333 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 11:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.443 = 3.544 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 12:13:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 180 @ 0.01 = 1.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 12:26:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3199 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 12:30:23 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 19 12:30:23 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 47 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
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Apr 19 12:34:30 <Diablo-D3>	ISS space walk in progress: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
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Apr 19 12:41:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 12:46:24 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 19 12:46:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.80001, Best ask: 117.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 117.90000, 24 hour volume: 315448.27814126, 24 hour low: 95.00000, 24 hour high: 136.43210, 24 hour vwap: 114.46986
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Apr 19 12:47:50 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 19 12:47:50 <gribble>	There are currently 54178497 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21587570.9593 USD in total. | Data vintage: 83.1350 seconds
Apr 19 12:48:02 <error4733>	;;bids 100.5
Apr 19 12:48:03 <gribble>	There are currently 22916.842 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.5 USD, worth 2457911.01905 USD in total. | Data vintage: 95.2615 seconds
Apr 19 12:49:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 12:57:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.3 = 3.9 BTC [-]
Apr 19 12:59:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.199 = 0.796 BTC [+]
Apr 19 13:00:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.00236 = 0.0071 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 13:00:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 97 @ 0.00236 = 0.2289 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 13:10:55 <unbalanced>	Erm... is mpex option expiry today or next Friday?
Apr 19 13:11:03 <punkman>	http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/04/913-asic-choices-asic-earnings-17-april.html
Apr 19 13:11:18 <punkman>	interesting projections
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Apr 19 13:24:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.199 = 1.194 BTC [+]
Apr 19 13:24:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12608 @ 0.0006984 = 8.8054 BTC [-]
Apr 19 13:24:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 131 @ 0.2 = 26.2 BTC [+]
Apr 19 13:27:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.178878 = 0.8944 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 13:30:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 17 @ 0.44 = 7.48 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 13:32:24 <bitesak>	unbalanced, next week
Apr 19 13:33:06 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 19 13:33:08 <gribble>	There are currently 54189605 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21429807.1095 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0117 seconds
Apr 19 13:33:21 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 19 13:33:22 <gribble>	expecting to test 110, 100 | resistance: 123 | lower buy targets: 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 19 2013, 9:43 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 7 hours, 50 minutes, and 20 seconds ago
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Apr 19 13:41:29 <Diablo-D3>	;;genrate 10000
Apr 19 13:41:30 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
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Apr 19 13:48:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.44 = 3.96 BTC [+]
Apr 19 13:48:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [+]
Apr 19 13:48:18 <jcpham>	increase your calm john spartan
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Apr 19 13:49:53 <ll>	;;bc,stats
Apr 19 13:49:56 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 232133 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1722 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 33 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9019350.06694 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.50203
Apr 19 13:50:10 <unbalanced>	Thanks bitesak, thought so but I've been wrong about nearly everything else so far so I thought no harm in asking.
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Apr 19 13:51:10 <unbalanced>	One more week for bitcoin to hit either $400 or $40... if it would just pick a direction already and stick with it, please.
Apr 19 13:52:31 <tiberiusiv>	shutup
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Apr 19 14:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:04:05 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv returns!
Apr 19 14:04:09 <thestringpuller>	we missed you
Apr 19 14:04:12 <deadweasel>	!!
Apr 19 14:04:27 <deadweasel>	hey tiberiusiv hows it going?
Apr 19 14:05:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00297475 = 3.2722 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:05:34 <tiberiusiv>	hi deadweasel
Apr 19 14:06:08 <deadweasel>	any thoughts on this weeks btc price?
Apr 19 14:06:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 24 @ 0.00391 = 0.0938 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:06:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.0039 = 0.195 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:06:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 95 @ 0.00383 = 0.3639 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:06:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 200 @ 0.00382 = 0.764 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:06:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0038 = 0.38 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:06:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0038 = 0.38 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:07:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 81 @ 0.003724 = 0.3016 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:07:05 <tiberiusiv>	hard to tell
Apr 19 14:07:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.003721 = 0.0372 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:07:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00327 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:07:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 13 @ 0.00325 = 0.0423 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:07:24 <tiberiusiv>	pretty sure we never see 50's again
Apr 19 14:07:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 366 @ 0.00323 = 1.1822 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:07:45 <tiberiusiv>	outside of a infrastructure failure
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Apr 19 14:10:02 <Namworld>	how so?
Apr 19 14:10:02 <deadweasel>	i agree
Apr 19 14:10:29 <deadweasel>	unfortunaately the infrastructure is crumbling..
Apr 19 14:10:35 <deadweasel>	:)
Apr 19 14:10:49 <ThickAsThieves>	"never" might be going too far
Apr 19 14:11:10 <ThickAsThieves>	but it looks a lot less likely for the short- medium-term
Apr 19 14:11:12 <deadweasel>	burn baby burn!  get some professionals in here
Apr 19 14:11:28 <ThickAsThieves>	whereas we thought the bubble would double burst, it may not
Apr 19 14:11:43 <InstantBTC>	are you guys looking at the volume? lol
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Apr 19 14:11:54 <InstantBTC>	support is falling rapidly
Apr 19 14:12:00 <ThickAsThieves>	we'll have to see if this latest return to normal is a "return to normal" or not
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Apr 19 14:12:55 <tiberiusiv>	whats normal?
Apr 19 14:13:10 <tiberiusiv>	if you noticed that during the second test of the 50 area there was record volume
Apr 19 14:13:14 <tiberiusiv>	april 16 or whatever
Apr 19 14:13:17 <b0n1>	can we trust btc-e ?
Apr 19 14:13:19 <tiberiusiv>	and the price declined from 80 to 50
Apr 19 14:13:30 <tiberiusiv>	under record volume on mtgox
Apr 19 14:13:39 <tiberiusiv>	selling was just exhausted
Apr 19 14:13:46 <ThickAsThieves>	i do agree that a LOT of people are ready to pay more than $59 on a drop
Apr 19 14:14:02 <tiberiusiv>	likely hood of seeing 50;s again is slim
Apr 19 14:14:22 <tiberiusiv>	all the people that sold already did so
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Apr 19 14:15:19 <ThickAsThieves>	there's still the big boys that soaked up at 50s
Apr 19 14:16:01 <tiberiusiv>	they probably already exited
Apr 19 14:16:16 <Namworld>	I doubt it
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Apr 19 14:16:18 <tiberiusiv>	there wasnt massive blocks being bought at those levels
Apr 19 14:16:19 <ThickAsThieves>	doubtful, they need that btc to crash it down again in the future
Apr 19 14:16:20 <tiberiusiv>	i dont
Apr 19 14:16:33 <tiberiusiv>	very few people catch a bottom or sell at a top
Apr 19 14:16:35 <Namworld>	and interest in Bitcoins is fading
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Apr 19 14:16:43 <tiberiusiv>	so?
Apr 19 14:16:49 <tiberiusiv>	what does that have to do with anything
Apr 19 14:16:57 <tiberiusiv>	interest fading would only be a problem in a ponzi scheme
Apr 19 14:17:12 <tiberiusiv>	or where supply is expanding infinitely
Apr 19 14:17:21 <tiberiusiv>	and you need the demand to absorb it
Apr 19 14:17:35 <tiberiusiv>	interest fading means nothing to the price the same way new accounts means nothing
Apr 19 14:17:36 <Namworld>	No... because this is not a freakin stock. There's no dividend in holding.
Apr 19 14:17:44 <Namworld>	No interest, no buyers, no value.
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Apr 19 14:17:59 <tiberiusiv>	hence why mtgox under record accounts and the price is what it was 30 days ago
Apr 19 14:18:20 <Namworld>	The influx lag after the news...
Apr 19 14:18:28 <tiberiusiv>	news means nothing
Apr 19 14:18:30 <tiberiusiv>	its just noise
Apr 19 14:18:44 <Namworld>	News mean everything in a bubble cycle
Apr 19 14:18:53 <tiberiusiv>	no it means nothing.
Apr 19 14:18:57 <Namworld>	It's a major part
Apr 19 14:18:58 <tiberiusiv>	its just noise
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Apr 19 14:19:04 <tiberiusiv>	news happens after the fact
Apr 19 14:19:23 <tiberiusiv>	ie the price was already rising rapidly well before "cyprus" news
Apr 19 14:19:34 <tiberiusiv>	people just like to rationalize why an increase occurs or decrease
Apr 19 14:19:42 <tiberiusiv>	like everyone blames the 260 to 50 decline on mtgox
Apr 19 14:19:50 <tiberiusiv>	mtgox crashed AFTER the selling had already started
Apr 19 14:20:29 <orkaa>	<Namworld> No interest, no buyers, no value.
Apr 19 14:20:36 <Namworld>	that's the thing. It's rationalizing the rise with out of whack supposition about some fantastic events that will keep it going up up up.
Apr 19 14:20:37 <orkaa>	market works better is btw price is stable
Apr 19 14:20:41 <orkaa>	so there's value
Apr 19 14:20:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i think the answer is in between
Apr 19 14:20:48 <orkaa>	if btc*
Apr 19 14:20:50 <tiberiusiv>	major news outlets were covering BTC after it went from 2 to 60
Apr 19 14:20:52 <ThickAsThieves>	news has an affect
Apr 19 14:20:56 <tiberiusiv>	nobody was covering it at 2
Apr 19 14:21:03 <ThickAsThieves>	but i suspect much less of an affect than we attributed
Apr 19 14:21:09 <tiberiusiv>	no it doesnt thickasthieves. just like new account openings mean nothing
Apr 19 14:21:14 <ThickAsThieves>	ive gone tinfoil hat on the matter
Apr 19 14:21:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i think bubbles are built
Apr 19 14:21:21 <tiberiusiv>	there was 10mil of bids when BTC was 260
Apr 19 14:21:24 <Namworld>	the rise to 15 USD/BTC was good. The rise to over 20 was fueled by news.
Apr 19 14:21:24 <tiberiusiv>	now theres 20mil+
Apr 19 14:21:26 <ThickAsThieves>	by manipulators
Apr 19 14:21:31 <tiberiusiv>	and the price is nowhere near a record.
Apr 19 14:21:47 <tiberiusiv>	namworld no it wasnt. it was fueled by crowd psycology
Apr 19 14:21:57 <Namworld>	There was news
Apr 19 14:21:59 <ThickAsThieves>	and manipulation
Apr 19 14:22:03 <tiberiusiv>	by the time the NEWS
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Apr 19 14:22:13 <tiberiusiv>	gets ahold of something
Apr 19 14:22:14 <tiberiusiv>	the price already increased substantially
Apr 19 14:22:25 <tiberiusiv>	BTC went up 25 times before the news started mentioning it
Apr 19 14:22:34 <Namworld>	The price started to raise around november/december slowly.
Apr 19 14:22:35 <tiberiusiv>	then increased another 5 fold before collapsing to the same level
Apr 19 14:22:38 <tiberiusiv>	where it started
Apr 19 14:22:41 <Namworld>	Fueled by the BTC community
Apr 19 14:22:42 <tiberiusiv>	no it didnt
Apr 19 14:22:50 <tiberiusiv>	the price started rising last year @ 2.0
Apr 19 14:22:58 <tiberiusiv>	by november it was already up 700%
Apr 19 14:23:15 <tiberiusiv>	by the time the news mania went off it was $50
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Apr 19 14:23:24 <tiberiusiv>	WELL into a uptrend that accelerated
Apr 19 14:24:15 <Namworld>	the first news were way before that
Apr 19 14:24:19 <tiberiusiv>	when the "news" got into bitcoin the price had already increased over 25 fold.
Apr 19 14:24:32 <tiberiusiv>	do you understand that?
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Apr 19 14:25:23 <Namworld>	The news didn't start at 50
Apr 19 14:25:24 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin does not need new participants for the price to stay high thats just ridiculous
Apr 19 14:25:34 <tiberiusiv>	yes the mania in news did
Apr 19 14:25:35 <Namworld>	they started earlier, on actual good news.
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Apr 19 14:25:53 <tiberiusiv>	had the fork event occured
Apr 19 14:25:55 <tiberiusiv>	after the crash
Apr 19 14:26:05 <tiberiusiv>	it would have sent the price down to single digits
Apr 19 14:26:11 <tiberiusiv>	because it occured during a psycological uptrend
Apr 19 14:26:14 <tiberiusiv>	nothing happend
Apr 19 14:26:48 <tiberiusiv>	fork had 0 impact on price other then for the 15minutes
Apr 19 14:27:04 <tiberiusiv>	why werent all the participants scared away from BTC after that? BECAUSE IT DOESNT MATTER.
Apr 19 14:27:07 <Namworld>	Yeah, but news didn't start at 50. They started in 2012 with VC funds/ Wordpress accepting Bitcoins, etc.
Apr 19 14:27:09 <tiberiusiv>	the market is all about crowd psycology
Apr 19 14:27:12 <Namworld>	Price started to creep up
Apr 19 14:27:19 <tiberiusiv>	no it didnt
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Apr 19 14:27:20 <Namworld>	and the more it rose, the more news there was
Apr 19 14:27:29 <tiberiusiv>	major networks did not bitcoin mania until 1st Q 2013
Apr 19 14:27:41 <tiberiusiv>	wordpress adopted bitcoin after a 600% rise.
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Apr 19 14:27:53 <Namworld>	Goes from legit news in smaller outlets to progressively making the headlines
Apr 19 14:27:57 <tiberiusiv>	the news LAGS price.
Apr 19 14:28:04 <tiberiusiv>	yes as PRICE increased
Apr 19 14:28:10 <Namworld>	They lag it but also fuels it
Apr 19 14:28:14 <tiberiusiv>	notice how nobody was adopting bitcoin @ 2.0
Apr 19 14:28:28 <tiberiusiv>	but after a 600-1000% rise suddenly everyones adopting?
Apr 19 14:28:32 <tiberiusiv>	people herd.
Apr 19 14:28:36 <Namworld>	They appear after and push it further up, bringing even more news in a cycle. Until a bubble pops
Apr 19 14:28:44 <tiberiusiv>	no they dont
Apr 19 14:28:47 <Namworld>	at which points news cover that new interesting topic
Apr 19 14:28:55 <tiberiusiv>	and?
Apr 19 14:28:58 <Namworld>	and usually forget about it and go on to something else.
Apr 19 14:29:04 <InstantBTC>	tiberiusiv : are you trolling or do you really believe what you're saying
Apr 19 14:29:08 <tiberiusiv>	they stopped covering btc in the last few days
Apr 19 14:29:09 <Namworld>	news diminishes afterward
Apr 19 14:29:12 <ThickAsThieves>	poor name
Apr 19 14:29:18 <ThickAsThieves>	Nam*
Apr 19 14:29:21 <tiberiusiv>	instantbtc you are clueless and so is namworld
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Apr 19 14:29:30 <tiberiusiv>	news is laggards
Apr 19 14:29:38 <ThickAsThieves>	do you need a troll rope to pull you from the dungeon?
Apr 19 14:29:40 <tiberiusiv>	its a terrible indicator
Apr 19 14:29:48 <tiberiusiv>	hence why most in here are poor
Apr 19 14:29:54 <tiberiusiv>	they follow lagging leads
Apr 19 14:29:57 *	ThickAsThieves throws Nam a lifeline!
Apr 19 14:30:08 <Namworld>	It's widely recognized that news fuel bubbles, not just lag it. News can have a huge impact on the price of any currency/commodity/stock
Apr 19 14:30:17 <tiberiusiv>	there was no bubble
Apr 19 14:30:23 <InstantBTC>	lol
Apr 19 14:30:29 <InstantBTC>	okay now it's obvious
Apr 19 14:30:40 <InstantBTC>	you had me going for a while tib
Apr 19 14:30:42 <tiberiusiv>	the market cap never reached ridiculously absurd levels
Apr 19 14:30:44 <InstantBTC>	you went too far there
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Apr 19 14:30:49 <tiberiusiv>	2.5billion
Apr 19 14:30:51 <ThickAsThieves>	Nothing that is, is what it is, for Tib
Apr 19 14:30:53 <tiberiusiv>	got a bit ahead of itself
Apr 19 14:31:02 <tiberiusiv>	if there was a bubble we would be at single digits now
Apr 19 14:31:10 <jcpham>	InstantBTC just stop reading. let your eyes glaze over. you'll thank me
Apr 19 14:31:10 <tiberiusiv>	not at the same price as 2 weeks ago
Apr 19 14:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00070028 = 7.8081 BTC [+]
Apr 19 14:31:24 <tiberiusiv>	a bubble requires massive ownership
Apr 19 14:31:31 <tiberiusiv>	that simply wasnt the case
Apr 19 14:31:43 <tiberiusiv>	also valuation has to be something off the charts
Apr 19 14:31:51 <tiberiusiv>	ie aapl being worth 700billion
Apr 19 14:32:01 <tiberiusiv>	or US real estate into the tens of trillions @ bubble peak
Apr 19 14:32:03 <InstantBTC>	jcpham lol I feel my blood pressure returning to normal
Apr 19 14:32:13 <InstantBTC>	http://wikileaks.org/Transcript-Meeting-Assange-Schmidt#688
Apr 19 14:32:16 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin was 2.5billion @ "bubble" peak
Apr 19 14:32:17 <ThickAsThieves>	listen tib, what you don't understand is that for a bubble to be a bubble, a lot of people have to own bitcoin
Apr 19 14:32:18 <InstantBTC>	nice read
Apr 19 14:32:29 <tiberiusiv>	i just said that thickasthieves
Apr 19 14:32:31 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 19 14:32:36 <ThickAsThieves>	just checking
Apr 19 14:32:41 <InstantBTC>	eric and jullian talking about bitcoin
Apr 19 14:32:51 <tiberiusiv>	was nothing more then a violent correction in an ongoing bullmarket
Apr 19 14:32:59 <tiberiusiv>	the bubble is probably 5 years+ away
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Apr 19 14:33:13 <ThickAsThieves>	like a tsunami is just a shift in the tide?
Apr 19 14:33:34 <tiberiusiv>	well was 2011 a bubble too then? because buyers of that top are up today.
Apr 19 14:33:51 <tiberiusiv>	when a bubble bursts the value takes a lifetime or decades to return to a previous high
Apr 19 14:34:05 <ThickAsThieves>	was the Great Depression a depression?
Apr 19 14:34:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.00368 = 0.1472 BTC [+]
Apr 19 14:34:12 <tiberiusiv>	you idiots are just clueless
Apr 19 14:34:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00367 = 0.367 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:34:22 <tiberiusiv>	a bubble in bitcoin will be some ridiculous market cap
Apr 19 14:34:39 <tiberiusiv>	bullmarkets tend to have violent corrections along the way
Apr 19 14:34:45 <tiberiusiv>	ie US stocks 1987 22% plunge in 1 day
Apr 19 14:34:52 <tiberiusiv>	up 10 fold a decade later
Apr 19 14:35:02 <unbalanced>	Satoshidice.com shows an expiry of next year in whois... so I guess they've got their payment in and will be back online soon?
Apr 19 14:35:13 <unbalanced>	Anyone have any info?
Apr 19 14:35:24 <InstantBTC>	they are up from what I can see
Apr 19 14:35:25 <tiberiusiv>	thought they were already back
Apr 19 14:35:31 <InstantBTC>	either that or I'm loading a cached version
Apr 19 14:35:42 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bubble.asp
Apr 19 14:35:50 <tiberiusiv>	second off if you analyze the ammount of $$ int he exchanges
Apr 19 14:35:55 <tiberiusiv>	its like what 40million max?
Apr 19 14:36:00 <tiberiusiv>	on a global scale? thats nothing.
Apr 19 14:36:00 <InstantBTC>	tiberiusiv, so is the USD a bubble?
Apr 19 14:36:08 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 19 14:36:12 <ThickAsThieves>	are bubbles even bubbles?
Apr 19 14:36:13 <tiberiusiv>	and its been deflating for 80 years
Apr 19 14:36:18 <InstantBTC>	lol what?
Apr 19 14:36:38 <tiberiusiv>	USD is a symptom of a government bubble
Apr 19 14:36:46 <tiberiusiv>	what do you mean what instantBTC?
Apr 19 14:36:51 <tiberiusiv>	you cant read?
Apr 19 14:36:56 <ThickAsThieves>	it's not a bubble, just a soap and water
Apr 19 14:37:10 <InstantBTC>	tiberiusiv, you're saying that the USD has been deflating for 80  years
Apr 19 14:37:13 <tiberiusiv>	the USD has been deflating over the last 80 years and this decline has sped up over the last decade.
Apr 19 14:37:18 <tiberiusiv>	yes the USD bubble.
Apr 19 14:37:21 <InstantBTC>	do you know the definition for deflation?
Apr 19 14:37:31 <tiberiusiv>	i meant bubble deflating
Apr 19 14:37:39 <tiberiusiv>	ya idiot
Apr 19 14:37:39 <ThickAsThieves>	he means a deflating bubble
Apr 19 14:37:40 <ThickAsThieves>	except
Apr 19 14:37:45 <ThickAsThieves>	bubbles dont DEFLATE!
Apr 19 14:37:49 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is nowhere near a massive bubble.
Apr 19 14:37:49 <ThickAsThieves>	the POP!
Apr 19 14:37:51 <ThickAsThieves>	they*
Apr 19 14:37:55 <tiberiusiv>	just look at the low market cap
Apr 19 14:38:05 <InstantBTC>	tiberiusiv, what timezone are you in?
Apr 19 14:38:10 <tiberiusiv>	total dollars @ the exchanges probably ammounts to 50mil
Apr 19 14:38:12 <ThickAsThieves>	otherwise call them Balloons, or Tires
Apr 19 14:38:16 <ThickAsThieves>	not bubbles
Apr 19 14:38:17 <tiberiusiv>	how is that a bubble lol
Apr 19 14:38:28 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin market cap = half of a NY skyscraper
Apr 19 14:38:43 <tiberiusiv>	when bitcoin market cap = half of manhattan
Apr 19 14:38:45 <tiberiusiv>	that will be a bubble
Apr 19 14:38:59 <tiberiusiv>	instanBTC: eastern
Apr 19 14:39:15 <iz>	a bubble isn't a very descriptive term actually
Apr 19 14:39:20 <InstantBTC>	okay I'll be back in like 8-10 hours or so
Apr 19 14:39:22 <InstantBTC>	was fun
Apr 19 14:39:25 <tiberiusiv>	ok
Apr 19 14:39:42 <tiberiusiv>	asset bubbles require ridiculous valuations.
Apr 19 14:39:45 <tiberiusiv>	ie market caps
Apr 19 14:39:54 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin has not seen any absurd market cap to date
Apr 19 14:39:57 <Namworld>	50 million for how many BTC? If 2 million, that's 25 USD/BTC
Apr 19 14:40:08 <Namworld>	Probably more than that readily available
Apr 19 14:40:20 <tiberiusiv>	dude that means nothing.
Apr 19 14:40:26 <tiberiusiv>	there isnt MASSIVE participation in bitcoin
Apr 19 14:40:35 <Namworld>	Of course there's not
Apr 19 14:40:36 <tiberiusiv>	everyone for example had mortgages
Apr 19 14:40:44 <tiberiusiv>	everyone owns stocks through one way or another
Apr 19 14:40:52 <Namworld>	But mass adoption doesn't appear overnight...
Apr 19 14:40:57 <tiberiusiv>	those are ASSET bubbles
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Apr 19 14:41:15 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin had a violent correction in an ongoing bullmarket thats years away from getting bubbly
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Apr 19 14:41:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5292 @ 0.0006984 = 3.6959 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:41:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.000695 = 17.375 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:41:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00069362 = 9.9534 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:42:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 913 @ 0.0006932 = 0.6329 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:42:44 <tiberiusiv>	asset bubbles also require the useage of credit/leverage
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Apr 19 14:42:52 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin did have people borrowing to get in
Apr 19 14:42:59 <tiberiusiv>	but it was not on a massive scale
Apr 19 14:43:35 <tiberiusiv>	and market cap is the better reflection of valuation
Apr 19 14:44:12 <tiberiusiv>	1.3billion valuation on a globalized basis is a bubble? get a fking clue please.
Apr 19 14:44:13 <Namworld>	I agree in 5-10 years, Bitcoins might just be incredibly higher than 266
Apr 19 14:44:31 <tiberiusiv>	5-10?
Apr 19 14:44:49 <tiberiusiv>	dude 266 can be reached in a week again in theory
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Apr 19 14:44:54 <Namworld>	Maybe even earlier if we see another spike... I hope not however
Apr 19 14:44:57 <tiberiusiv>	that brings total cap up to 2.2bil
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Apr 19 14:45:23 <tiberiusiv>	equivalent of nothing.
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Apr 19 14:46:37 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin did not exhibit any of the charactisitics of a major bubble OUTSIDE of overly positive psycology
Apr 19 14:46:43 <tiberiusiv>	hence the violent correction
Apr 19 14:47:38 <tiberiusiv>	and everyone was saying it was a bubble
Apr 19 14:47:42 <tiberiusiv>	so how could it be a bubble then lol
Apr 19 14:47:51 <tiberiusiv>	negative articles outnumbered positive by like 3 to 1
Apr 19 14:48:18 <tiberiusiv>	you couldnt find a single negative article on US real estate back in 2005 2006, or US stocks in the 90's
Apr 19 14:48:37 <Namworld>	because it went crashing down as expected... because that's the exact definition of a bubble...a sharp, unsustainable rise that is followed by a violent correction
Apr 19 14:48:40 <tiberiusiv>	bubble means an asset class is loved by all
Apr 19 14:48:52 <Namworld>	Doesn't mean the price can't start going up again.
Apr 19 14:48:53 <tiberiusiv>	no thats just normal market behaviour
Apr 19 14:49:14 <tiberiusiv>	a bubble means the asset is grossly overvalued and over participated in and its BIDS are influenced by cheap credit
Apr 19 14:49:23 <tiberiusiv>	none of that applied to bitcoin
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Apr 19 14:49:32 <tiberiusiv>	other then very short term positive psycology
Apr 19 14:49:39 <tiberiusiv>	and lack of liquidity which drove the price
Apr 19 14:50:07 <tiberiusiv>	hence why you should shutup about the topic namworld. theres been countless bubble examples worldwide and bitcoin isnt one of them
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Apr 19 14:50:27 <tiberiusiv>	bubble assets have to be loved by almost all participants including even bears
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Apr 19 14:50:54 <tiberiusiv>	the ammount of "we told you so" articles was off the chart
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Apr 19 14:51:08 <tiberiusiv>	vs everyone being clueless to RE popping or nasdaqs
Apr 19 14:51:22 <tiberiusiv>	allt he we told you so people did was miss a great entry point
Apr 19 14:51:41 <tiberiusiv>	we had 2 massive volume days around the 50 price level
Apr 19 14:51:47 <tiberiusiv>	meaning selling had completely exhausted
Apr 19 14:52:12 <Namworld>	I'm not saying 50-60 wasn't a good entry point...
Apr 19 14:52:22 <tiberiusiv>	im saying it was a normal correction
Apr 19 14:52:26 <tiberiusiv>	after a huge run up
Apr 19 14:52:36 <tiberiusiv>	the price corrected back to where it was 30 days ago.
Apr 19 14:52:48 <tiberiusiv>	a bubble corrects back to where it started
Apr 19 14:52:56 <Namworld>	a huge run up followed by a correction is the definition of a bubble
Apr 19 14:52:56 <tiberiusiv>	meaning $2
Apr 19 14:53:03 <tiberiusiv>	no it isnt
Apr 19 14:53:05 <tiberiusiv>	be quiet
Apr 19 14:53:08 <Namworld>	doesn't need to return to where it started
Apr 19 14:53:42 <tiberiusiv>	go back to trading 1/100ths of a BTC while you sit in your workplace cubicle up there in canada
Apr 19 14:53:58 <tiberiusiv>	guy with a min wage job commenting on financial speculation
Apr 19 14:54:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.499 BTC [+]
Apr 19 14:54:26 <Namworld>	I got hundreds of BTC thank you. And I work from home, thank you.
Apr 19 14:54:35 <tiberiusiv>	what on an internet business lol
Apr 19 14:54:52 <Namworld>	yes >.>
Apr 19 14:54:56 <tiberiusiv>	namworld the rule in here was unless you had minimum 1000 BTC you werent allowed to speak when the smart people were talking
Apr 19 14:54:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.0006932 = 9.4968 BTC [-]
Apr 19 14:55:42 <Namworld>	Oh, I'd like to see your 1000 BTC =)
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Apr 19 15:03:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.0006932 = 10.9179 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 15:09:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.499 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 15:16:04 <jcpham>	not sure i want anyone to know whther i'm smart or stupid
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Apr 19 15:16:34 <jcpham>	perceived intelligence is a threat to some people
Apr 19 15:16:43 <jcpham>	i'm much more subversive than that
Apr 19 15:28:41 <jborkl>	mircea_popescu :withdraw process please
Apr 19 15:29:35 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: heh.
Apr 19 15:29:57 <Diablo-D3>	it doesnt look like tman or 18dew are going to pay
Apr 19 15:30:06 <Diablo-D3>	so thats 6 shares of asicminer not being sold
Apr 19 15:31:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 17 @ 0.0049 = 0.0833 BTC [+]
Apr 19 15:31:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 15:41:40 <Diablo-D3>	another hour and 20 minutes to go on the asicminer blade auction
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Apr 19 15:46:41 <Diablo-D3>	;;genrate 60000
Apr 19 15:46:42 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 60000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 3.36231286953 BTC per day and 0.140096369564 BTC per hour.
Apr 19 15:46:51 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 6 * 83
Apr 19 15:46:51 <gribble>	498
Apr 19 15:50:41 <TomServo>	wow. ~11GH/s for 70 BTC.  That seems crazy.
Apr 19 15:51:45 <TomServo>	;;genrate 11000
Apr 19 15:51:46 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 11000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.616424026081 BTC per day and 0.02568433442 BTC per hour.
Apr 19 15:52:36 <TomServo>	;;nethash
Apr 19 15:52:37 <gribble>	63272.2000576
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Apr 19 16:06:47 <jborkl>	Diablo-D3 , when are you doin the share transfer . expected timeframe?
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Apr 19 16:07:38 <Diablo-D3>	jborkl: it'll be done before next dividend payment
Apr 19 16:07:53 <jborkl>	Thanks
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Apr 19 16:09:26 <Diablo-D3>	good news is only 6 shares were abandoned
Apr 19 16:10:21 <jborkl>	Yeah, much better than I expected - most people on BCT are at bets flakey
Apr 19 16:10:27 <jborkl>	best
Apr 19 16:10:52 <Diablo-D3>	Im offering to sell them at 1.2 each whoever makes the bid in the thread first
Apr 19 16:10:57 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179065.0
Apr 19 16:11:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00069813 = 8.8313 BTC [+]
Apr 19 16:12:47 <jborkl>	I am sure they will go fast, I have absolutely everything tied up or I would take them off your hands
Apr 19 16:13:06 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: heres your chance!
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Apr 19 16:15:29 <sharktopuz>	!last m s.bbet
Apr 19 16:15:30 <assbot>	Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.00175 BTC [-]
Apr 19 16:19:25 <error4733>	diablo pm send here
Apr 19 16:19:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 16:21:21 <sharktopuz>	how do you transfer stocks ?
Apr 19 16:22:06 <sharktopuz>	is it all done on bitfuner ?
Apr 19 16:22:21 <sharktopuz>	bitfunder* ?
Apr 19 16:22:39 <error4733>	by mail imo
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Apr 19 16:30:05 <Diablo-D3>	sharktopuz: with asicminer, its done via friedcat
Apr 19 16:30:12 <Diablo-D3>	he keeps a ledger of all owners
Apr 19 16:32:51 <sharktopuz>	is that who runs bitfuner ?
Apr 19 16:32:58 <Diablo-D3>	no, its who owns asicminer
Apr 19 16:33:42 <Diablo-D3>	Ukto owns Bitfunder
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Apr 19 16:36:20 <temp37>	hey mircea_popescu, can I get to mpex historical transactions through the RSS feed? is there a query parameter for date?
Apr 19 16:38:45 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if I should make a bid for 6 of these
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Apr 19 16:42:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11953 @ 0.00070028 = 8.3704 BTC [+]
Apr 19 16:42:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3647 @ 0.00070138 = 2.5579 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 16:46:07 <jborkl>	You want a opinion Diablo-D3 , or was that rhetorical?
Apr 19 16:46:38 <Diablo-D3>	well
Apr 19 16:46:40 <Diablo-D3>	the price is pretty high
Apr 19 16:47:03 <jborkl>	;;calc 4377*25.5*.001587
Apr 19 16:47:03 <gribble>	177.1306245
Apr 19 16:47:20 <jborkl>	;;calc 700/177
Apr 19 16:47:20 <gribble>	3.95480225989
Apr 19 16:47:31 <Diablo-D3>	they'd take about a year to pay off
Apr 19 16:47:32 <jborkl>	months to pay back, at current network rate
Apr 19 16:47:33 <Diablo-D3>	but run FOREVER
Apr 19 16:47:39 <Diablo-D3>	jborkl: yeah thats useless
Apr 19 16:47:46 <jborkl>	depends
Apr 19 16:47:49 <Diablo-D3>	you have to use a predicted profit graph
Apr 19 16:47:57 <Diablo-D3>	because 200TH are coming online before july
Apr 19 16:48:04 <Diablo-D3>	the current network speed is about 70
Apr 19 16:48:10 <jborkl>	I would expect 8 months
Apr 19 16:48:20 <jborkl>	;;nethash
Apr 19 16:48:20 <Diablo-D3>	the 200TH belongs to asicminer
Apr 19 16:48:20 <gribble>	63288.3011151
Apr 19 16:48:30 <Diablo-D3>	Im not including future avalon or if bfl ever ships
Apr 19 16:48:46 <Diablo-D3>	given those two included, I'll make about 2BTC per GH before august 1st.
Apr 19 16:49:17 <jborkl>	at 70 per unit, I would expect 8 months
Apr 19 16:49:31 <jborkl>	too much for me, but w\e
Apr 19 16:49:43 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, Im doing 12 months on the very outside
Apr 19 16:49:50 <Diablo-D3>	since BFL will never ship, it could be as little as 6
Apr 19 16:50:14 <jborkl>	yes, Static network rate = 4 = 120 th = 8 months
Apr 19 16:50:21 <jborkl>	4 months
Apr 19 16:50:30 <jborkl>	we know it will not be static though
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Apr 19 16:51:16 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, I'm seriously considering it
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Apr 19 16:58:16 <ll>	theres another auction next week too afaik
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Apr 19 16:59:43 <Diablo-D3>	I know
Apr 19 17:00:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4787 @ 0.00070138 = 3.3575 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 17:04:31 <Diablo-D3>	I decided not to bid.
Apr 19 17:04:38 <Diablo-D3>	future hashpower is just too uncertain
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Apr 19 17:10:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00070138 = 6.593 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 17:14:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2266 @ 0.00070138 = 1.5893 BTC [+]
Apr 19 17:14:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 884 @ 0.00070298 = 0.6214 BTC [+]
Apr 19 17:15:58 <sharktopuz>	is there any good info on building a custom rig ?
Apr 19 17:16:10 <sharktopuz>	rather then buying avalon / BFL ?
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Apr 19 17:19:02 <alex12>	;;estimate 60000
Apr 19 17:19:05 <gribble>	(estimate takes no arguments) -- Shows next difficulty estimate.
Apr 19 17:19:17 <alex12>	;;genrate 60000
Apr 19 17:19:18 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 60000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 3.36231286953 BTC per day and 0.140096369564 BTC per hour.
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Apr 19 17:25:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 17:35:15 <thestringpuller>	;;seen tiberiusiv
Apr 19 17:35:15 <gribble>	tiberiusiv was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <tiberiusiv> namworld the rule in here was unless you had minimum 1000 BTC you werent allowed to speak when the smart people were talking
Apr 19 17:35:40 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: i have 1000btc now
Apr 19 17:35:43 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 19 17:35:57 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder: waddup homie?
Apr 19 17:36:02 <thestringpuller>	makin dat paypuh?
Apr 19 17:36:12 <Bugpowder>	wish I had put up some asks before I went to bed
Apr 19 17:36:26 <Bugpowder>	Woulda made hella loot last night
Apr 19 17:36:32 <thestringpuller>	i know how you feel!
Apr 19 17:36:42 <Bugpowder>	stupid stupid
Apr 19 17:36:58 <thestringpuller>	i wish I had put up bids the night before when I went to sleep
Apr 19 17:37:07 <Bugpowder>	Now I have a little too much exposure for comfort, and can't exit cleanly
Apr 19 17:37:24 <thestringpuller>	exposure where?
Apr 19 17:37:28 <Bugpowder>	in BTC
Apr 19 17:37:39 <thestringpuller>	oh
Apr 19 17:37:46 <thestringpuller>	you had 30% i thougjt
Apr 19 17:37:53 <Bugpowder>	No I sold it all
Apr 19 17:37:53 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 19 17:37:55 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 24.03032819 / 88.3616141 / 232.26557649 (9 shares, 7.82 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 19 17:37:58 <Bugpowder>	and have been trading it
Apr 19 17:38:00 <thestringpuller>	oh wow
Apr 19 17:38:03 <Bugpowder>	currently 50/50
Apr 19 17:38:14 <thestringpuller>	all you s.dice and all mpex?
Apr 19 17:38:22 <thestringpuller>	you got 0 btc in mpex?
Apr 19 17:38:28 <Bugpowder>	0.6BTC on MPEX
Apr 19 17:38:34 <thestringpuller>	hahaha
Apr 19 17:38:38 <Bugpowder>	S.DICE looks like a good buy right now though
Apr 19 17:38:52 <thestringpuller>	why are you leaving bitcoinia land*
Apr 19 17:38:55 <thestringpuller>	?*
Apr 19 17:39:01 <Bugpowder>	I was never leaving
Apr 19 17:39:12 <Bugpowder>	Just wanted to preserve capital on the crash
Apr 19 17:39:16 <thestringpuller>	just realizing your profits?
Apr 19 17:39:18 <Bugpowder>	and buy back lower
Apr 19 17:39:25 <Bugpowder>	which I did
Apr 19 17:39:28 <thestringpuller>	ah
Apr 19 17:39:32 <Bugpowder>	unfortunately I sold too...
Apr 19 17:39:42 <thestringpuller>	smickles kinda fucked me during thr crash
Apr 19 17:39:48 <Bugpowder>	But, has still been a pretty great week
Apr 19 17:39:50 <thestringpuller>	all started with those calls :(
Apr 19 17:39:58 <thestringpuller>	and i had written puts at 80
Apr 19 17:40:04 <Bugpowder>	smickles needs to be available.
Apr 19 17:40:07 <thestringpuller>	mkopt those
Apr 19 17:40:09 <thestringpuller>	yea
Apr 19 17:40:14 <Bugpowder>	if he is holding your stuff
Apr 19 17:40:23 <thestringpuller>	he is too busy playing kerbal space program
Apr 19 17:40:29 <thestringpuller>	i dont wanna cause drama
Apr 19 17:40:37 <thestringpuller>	for like 5 coins
Apr 19 17:40:44 <thestringpuller>	i have a business to rub irl
Apr 19 17:40:46 <thestringpuller>	run*
Apr 19 17:41:22 <thestringpuller>	i could have made at least a grand on the crash though
Apr 19 17:41:28 <thestringpuller>	with that mad volatility
Apr 19 17:41:37 <Bugpowder>	yeah its been amazing
Apr 19 17:41:52 <jborkl>	bugpowder, what is you thoughts - kinda topping  it seems. hard to tell
Apr 19 17:42:02 <thestringpuller>	i made about 50 bucks on .5 btc
Apr 19 17:42:11 <thestringpuller>	during the volatile cycles
Apr 19 17:43:14 <Bugpowder>	I don't know which way its going, asks have come up some, bids steady. Still a huge line for gox. perhaps a brief moment of relative stability this weekend?
Apr 19 17:43:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16784 @ 0.0006932 = 11.6347 BTC [-]
Apr 19 17:43:55 <Bugpowder>	I am getting doubtful that we will see 30 though
Apr 19 17:44:35 <jborkl>	naw, I think the risk of that is gone
Apr 19 17:44:48 <Bugpowder>	need a major hack to kill confidence
Apr 19 17:44:59 <Bugpowder>	I forgot about that part in my previous analysis
Apr 19 17:45:53 <jborkl>	yeah, we already based this time and had a high volume day. So I think it is done for now - I guess 80 - 140 is possible but I can tell which one
Apr 19 17:46:04 <Bugpowder>	probably both :)
Apr 19 17:46:17 <jborkl>	yeah, just which one first
Apr 19 17:46:42 <Bugpowder>	this is definitely a time where I am very hesitant to sell for a loss, because it seems likely that gains will be available if I just wait long enough
Apr 19 17:46:48 <Bugpowder>	long enough being a few days
Apr 19 17:47:05 <Bugpowder>	ALthough I am in the green at spot prices
Apr 19 17:47:13 <Bugpowder>	just can't dump the stack
Apr 19 17:47:50 <Bugpowder>	Also I think I saw the big wall at 70 move to 95
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Apr 19 17:48:22 <jborkl>	hard to tell what people are going to do, the fear has subsided for now
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Apr 19 17:48:51 <jborkl>	greed/fear indicator is nuetral
Apr 19 17:48:57 <jborkl>	spelling
Apr 19 17:50:17 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder we wont see 50's ever again
Apr 19 17:50:31 <Bugpowder>	makes me cry
Apr 19 17:50:39 <Bugpowder>	i got 1500 at 51 and 52
Apr 19 17:50:43 <Bugpowder>	and sold at 58
Apr 19 17:50:53 <Bugpowder>	facepalmmmm
Apr 19 17:50:56 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: you should have been paying attention to what the volume was saying
Apr 19 17:50:57 <jborkl>	oh, such a good buy
Apr 19 17:51:02 <jborkl>	and terrible sell
Apr 19 17:51:14 <tiberiusiv>	april 16 record volume on mtgox and price barely moved below last low of 54
Apr 19 17:51:24 <tiberiusiv>	= selling exhaustion occured
Apr 19 17:51:44 <tiberiusiv>	people that bought the crash 50's, panicked out on april 16th
Apr 19 17:51:44 <jborkl>	I got back in at 75, so I missed the bottom
Apr 19 17:51:58 <error4733>	bugpowder, they try! how many bitcoin service are in trouble right now ?  Instawallet/bictoin central/bitflor/BTC-24/ massive ddos on MtGox
Apr 19 17:52:08 <Bugpowder>	yah
Apr 19 17:52:17 <tiberiusiv>	none of that matters thats just noise
Apr 19 17:52:19 <Bugpowder>	this was also playing into my cynacism
Apr 19 17:52:20 <jborkl>	and Ozcoin got hacked and shut down
Apr 19 17:52:23 <error4733>	same sheme pump pump crash hack
Apr 19 17:52:29 <tiberiusiv>	people have known about BTC services being unstable since 2010
Apr 19 17:52:41 <Bugpowder>	gox is fine
Apr 19 17:52:49 <tiberiusiv>	you have to trade the tape
Apr 19 17:53:03 <tiberiusiv>	april 16th was a panic sell of those who bought the lows 2 days prior
Apr 19 17:53:06 <error4733>	is but 5 major actor in a 2 week time frame ?
Apr 19 17:53:17 <tiberiusiv>	record volume but price not setting a substantial low = selling exhaustion occured
Apr 19 17:53:35 <tiberiusiv>	now most did *not* jump back in on this rally from 50 -120
Apr 19 17:53:44 <tiberiusiv>	so i doubt there will be another substantial pullback nearterm
Apr 19 17:54:12 <tiberiusiv>	err record volume but not a NEW major low = selling exhaustion occured on april 16th
Apr 19 17:54:14 <error4733>	;;bids 50
Apr 19 17:54:16 <gribble>	There are currently 189638.01 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14489944.2926 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0076 seconds
Apr 19 17:54:28 <tiberiusiv>	yea 50's will never be seen again
Apr 19 17:54:42 <tiberiusiv>	outside of BTC itself failing
Apr 19 17:57:42 <tiberiusiv>	most likely scenario is being range bound for awhile
Apr 19 17:59:11 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowder: had you paid attention to price action on the 16th you wouldnt have panicked out.
Apr 19 17:59:18 <tiberiusiv>	@ 58
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Apr 19 17:59:59 <Bugpowder>	I sold in the middle of the night when I got up to pee
Apr 19 18:00:11 <Bugpowder>	not my most clear headed moment
Apr 19 18:00:33 <jborkl>	I think we will see 175 again, thinking about it- lot of peoople will say whew, I got out
Apr 19 18:00:35 <Bugpowder>	I probably would have gotten shaken out at a much lower point anyway
Apr 19 18:00:51 <Bugpowder>	I've been in and out all the way up
Apr 19 18:01:07 <b0n1>	lol
Apr 19 18:01:10 <Bugpowder>	you are welcome mt gox
Apr 19 18:01:23 <tiberiusiv>	if you watched volume + price action 50's was the buying chance
Apr 19 18:01:41 <tiberiusiv>	2 tests of that zone accompainied by record vol
Apr 19 18:01:50 <tiberiusiv>	complete exhaustion and panic by sellers
Apr 19 18:01:52 <error4733>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U
Apr 19 18:01:57 <tiberiusiv>	and nobody got back onboard
Apr 19 18:02:09 <tiberiusiv>	most will probably enter 50% higher then here lol
Apr 19 18:02:33 <b0n1>	tiberiusiv,  how do you conclude that there was a complete selling exhaustion ?
Apr 19 18:02:43 <Bugpowder>	pretty good signer
Apr 19 18:03:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14853 @ 0.0006932 = 10.2961 BTC [-]
Apr 19 18:03:05 <tiberiusiv>	b0n1: when there is massive volume and price doesnt make a lower low
Apr 19 18:03:28 <tiberiusiv>	b0n1: on the one day we hit 50's it bounced from there, the second time on april i think 16th 80-50 drop
Apr 19 18:03:41 <tiberiusiv>	was under massive volume, that was sellers panicking thinking another wave down was coming
Apr 19 18:03:43 <tiberiusiv>	so they all got out
Apr 19 18:03:56 <Bugpowder>	hindsight is easy
Apr 19 18:04:14 <tiberiusiv>	i was a documented buyer in the 50's
Apr 19 18:04:25 <tiberiusiv>	you can also see it in the order book
Apr 19 18:04:31 <tiberiusiv>	the complete supply exhaustion
Apr 19 18:04:31 <Bugpowder>	me too
Apr 19 18:05:03 <tiberiusiv>	b0n1: very few if any rode this last 50-120 move, hence i doubt we have another major down leg
Apr 19 18:05:16 <tiberiusiv>	b0n1: also sentiment was so negative everyone was calling it a "bubble" and i told you so
Apr 19 18:05:23 <tiberiusiv>	thats usually an indicator of the opposite about to occur
Apr 19 18:05:28 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is nowhere near a bubble
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Apr 19 18:06:02 <tiberiusiv>	most of the new money on mtgox entered 150-280 and sold out for huge losses
Apr 19 18:06:10 <tiberiusiv>	doubt theyll be coming back
Apr 19 18:06:18 <tiberiusiv>	for another mania repeat this fast
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Apr 19 18:07:51 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 100
Apr 19 18:07:53 <gribble>	There are currently 27908.304 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2991057.83822 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0074 seconds
Apr 19 18:08:00 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 19 18:08:00 <gribble>	There are currently 63045.937 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 9666032.41737 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.9040 seconds
Apr 19 18:08:26 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 0
Apr 19 18:08:32 <gribble>	There are currently 53948668 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21112059.6406 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.4907 seconds
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Apr 19 18:08:42 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 1000
Apr 19 18:08:45 <gribble>	There are currently 110435.22 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 24493864.3627 USD in total. | Data vintage: 49.4595 seconds
Apr 19 18:09:30 <Bugpowder>	tiberiusiv: http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
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Apr 19 18:10:46 <tiberiusiv>	i hope liquidity continues to dramatically improve over the next 1 year
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Apr 19 18:12:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.314 = 11.826 BTC [+]
Apr 19 18:12:53 <Bugpowder>	yeah, you can only enter or exit positions without pain if you are banging up against a wall
Apr 19 18:13:10 <Bugpowder>	this is why they nearly always get eaten when touched, IMHO
Apr 19 18:14:14 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
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Apr 19 18:14:17 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 232164 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1691 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 12 hours, 37 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9155437.91893 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.01845
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Apr 19 18:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 18:33:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 497 @ 0.00069255 = 0.3442 BTC [-]
Apr 19 18:33:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00069577 = 12.1064 BTC [+]
Apr 19 18:33:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11403 @ 0.00070298 = 8.0161 BTC [+]
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Apr 19 18:43:07 <b0n1>	tiberiusiv, your reasoning is quite clear and logic, but you need to assume that the volume high is due to selling
Apr 19 18:44:09 <b0n1>	could also be selling and buying and a quite unclear situation whether it goes down further
Apr 19 18:44:29 <KRS1>	wouldnt the order books spell it out for you a bit
Apr 19 18:45:01 <b0n1>	yes but that was not shown on the analyzed graph
Apr 19 18:45:10 <KRS1>	ic
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Apr 19 18:48:08 <KRS1>	what they tell me at a quick glance is the price will move up until around 121-124 then fall to somewhere around 110-115 somewhere..pretty much same shiz...but thats my amateur ass analysis that might be backwards.
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Apr 19 18:49:00 <KRS1>	;;eightball am I right?
Apr 19 18:49:00 <gribble>	Come again?
Apr 19 18:49:03 <KRS1>	sigh
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Apr 19 18:57:53 <tiberiusiv>	b0n1: graphs tell past data you need to study PRICE action occuring at the moment
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Apr 19 18:58:04 <tiberiusiv>	volume, crowd psycology + price action
Apr 19 18:58:09 <tiberiusiv>	ignore everything else its irrelevant
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Apr 19 18:58:13 <thestringpuller>	;;seen tiberiusiv
Apr 19 18:58:14 <gribble>	tiberiusiv was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 seconds ago: <tiberiusiv> ignore everything else its irrelevant
Apr 19 18:58:43 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv how are you?
Apr 19 18:58:51 <tiberiusiv>	hi thestringpuller
Apr 19 18:59:03 <thestringpuller>	lets make dis moolah baby
Apr 19 18:59:45 <b0n1>	that was a comment on your selling exhaustioin argument you said before
Apr 19 18:59:46 <thestringpuller>	did you make a bunch off the volatility recently?
Apr 19 19:00:45 <tiberiusiv>	yes i was a buyer documented in the channel in the 50's
Apr 19 19:00:50 <tiberiusiv>	on btc-e
Apr 19 19:01:07 <tiberiusiv>	i really doubt that level is seen again
Apr 19 19:01:26 <b0n1>	what is actually a good place to measure crows psychology? i mean here in irc are good discussioin channels but the number of people are not significant
Apr 19 19:02:31 <thestringpuller>	reddit
Apr 19 19:02:34 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 19 19:02:34 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 19 19:02:39 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 19 19:02:57 <tiberiusiv>	b0n1: actually some of the larger irc channels like bitcoin you can see the panic/ mania of the crowd
Apr 19 19:03:19 <thestringpuller>	that would be a good bot
Apr 19 19:03:29 <thestringpuller>	a bot that aggregates all crowd mania
Apr 19 19:03:32 <thestringpuller>	into an index
Apr 19 19:03:34 <b0n1>	but maybe its just a small subset of people pushing themself
Apr 19 19:03:54 <b0n1>	thestringpuller,  shouldnt be that hard to code actually
Apr 19 19:04:00 <tiberiusiv>	when people go to the grocery store they want the lowest prices possible
Apr 19 19:04:05 <tiberiusiv>	when people buy assets its the opposite
Apr 19 19:04:10 <tiberiusiv>	nobody buys low
Apr 19 19:04:12 <tiberiusiv>	they "herd"
Apr 19 19:04:21 <tiberiusiv>	they do what their neighbor is doing
Apr 19 19:04:31 <tiberiusiv>	if hes buying a house they buy a house if hes buying bitcoin they buy bitcoin
Apr 19 19:04:35 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: thats only if they are consumer buyers
Apr 19 19:04:38 <tiberiusiv>	complete opposite of rational behavior in asset markets
Apr 19 19:04:47 <thestringpuller>	big players have a different field of view
Apr 19 19:04:54 <tiberiusiv>	nobody was buying BTC @ $2.0. everyone said it was dead etc.
Apr 19 19:04:59 <thestringpuller>	due to market depth restrictions
Apr 19 19:05:11 <tiberiusiv>	notice when wordpress adopted btc
Apr 19 19:05:18 <tiberiusiv>	AFTER a 700% price move
Apr 19 19:05:47 <tiberiusiv>	at 200+ everyone wanted bitcoin
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Apr 19 19:05:51 <tiberiusiv>	at 2.0 you couldnt find a soul
Apr 19 19:06:12 <thestringpuller>	yea but it survived
Apr 19 19:06:13 <tiberiusiv>	so news lags price its irrelevent
Apr 19 19:06:15 <thestringpuller>	somehow
Apr 19 19:06:30 <b0n1>	http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
Apr 19 19:06:38 <tiberiusiv>	theres more bitcoin merchants then ever and the price is not at a new high
Apr 19 19:06:43 <b0n1>	who do they show the ask sum in kBTC in the lower chart?
Apr 19 19:06:45 <tiberiusiv>	it means nothing
Apr 19 19:06:53 <thestringpuller>	at 5.0 the price had very kittle volatility
Apr 19 19:07:18 <tiberiusiv>	it had alot of volatility what are you talking about
Apr 19 19:07:23 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin has never had no vol
Apr 19 19:07:26 <thestringpuller>	right now I think some entity is manipulating the market to induce volatility
Apr 19 19:07:36 <tiberiusiv>	market manipulation is impossible
Apr 19 19:07:48 <tiberiusiv>	what someone is trading with themselves?
Apr 19 19:08:08 <thestringpuller>	i bought a coin for 5 usd in march of 2012 and it stayrd that value for a long time
Apr 19 19:08:17 <tiberiusiv>	what a few weeks?|
Apr 19 19:08:17 <thestringpuller>	no someone induces panic
Apr 19 19:08:18 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 19 19:08:23 <tiberiusiv>	no they dont
Apr 19 19:08:33 <tiberiusiv>	people all are just on the wrong side of the trade like always
Apr 19 19:08:41 <tiberiusiv>	hence why 1% get the $$
Apr 19 19:08:45 <thestringpuller>	yea
Apr 19 19:08:52 <thestringpuller>	the 1% induced a panic sell
Apr 19 19:09:00 <thestringpuller>	via goxlag
Apr 19 19:09:02 <tiberiusiv>	no thats impossible
Apr 19 19:09:03 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 19 19:09:13 <thestringpuller>	why is it impossible?
Apr 19 19:09:14 <tiberiusiv>	gox lagging does not cause people to sell
Apr 19 19:09:17 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 19 19:09:28 <tiberiusiv>	gox lag is a result of a huge move already occuring
Apr 19 19:09:47 <tiberiusiv>	that explanation is completely illogical that people panic because gox lags lol
Apr 19 19:09:51 <b0n1>	or a ddos
Apr 19 19:09:58 <thestringpuller>	no that wasnt my explanation
Apr 19 19:10:11 <tiberiusiv>	the crash happend because everyone tried to exit at the same time
Apr 19 19:10:16 <tiberiusiv>	the herd changed direction
Apr 19 19:10:19 <thestringpuller>	yea at the end
Apr 19 19:10:24 <tiberiusiv>	gox just had poor infrastructure
Apr 19 19:10:25 <thestringpuller>	but someone started that exit a 1%
Apr 19 19:10:32 <tiberiusiv>	and the herd follows along
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Apr 19 19:10:38 <tiberiusiv>	it would have crashed at any point
Apr 19 19:10:40 <thestringpuller>	after a well timed media blitz to up the price
Apr 19 19:10:41 <tiberiusiv>	buying was exhausted
Apr 19 19:10:45 <tiberiusiv>	everyone had bitcoins
Apr 19 19:10:55 <tiberiusiv>	there was no more $
Apr 19 19:10:58 <tiberiusiv>	to bid
Apr 19 19:11:12 <thestringpuller>	yea it happens bubbles go pop
Apr 19 19:11:20 <tiberiusiv>	why are you talking at all?
Apr 19 19:11:33 <tiberiusiv>	i thought we agreed those that dont have 1000 btc arent allowed to form an opinion
Apr 19 19:11:50 <thestringpuller>	i have 1000 btc
Apr 19 19:11:54 <tiberiusiv>	no you dont
Apr 19 19:11:56 <thestringpuller>	but smickles robbed me
Apr 19 19:12:00 <thestringpuller>	so there yo go
Apr 19 19:12:08 <tiberiusiv>	go back to delving into conspiracy theories
Apr 19 19:12:26 <thestringpuller>	why are you such a meanie!
Apr 19 19:12:38 <thestringpuller>	big meanie poopie head!
Apr 19 19:13:39 <thestringpuller>	also you dobt have any btc so what does it matter?
Apr 19 19:13:54 <thestringpuller>	why is your opinion any more real than mine?
Apr 19 19:14:07 <thestringpuller>	is your God better than my God too?
Apr 19 19:14:18 <thestringpuller>	can your dad beat up my dad?
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Apr 19 19:15:13 <deyyo>	he probably can if he has 1000btc lol
Apr 19 19:15:14 <deyyo>	:D
Apr 19 19:16:42 <Namworld>	[19:11] <tiberiusiv> i thought we agreed those that dont have 1000 btc arent allowed to form an opinion
Apr 19 19:17:11 <Namworld>	Okay, from now on, anyone who is not registered with a BTC address on OTC and signed in, with 1000 BTC on their OTC address
Apr 19 19:17:19 <Namworld>	Can zip their mouth then
Apr 19 19:18:26 <thestringpuller>	okay Namworld hush then
Apr 19 19:18:43 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 19 19:19:17 <deyyo>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z-AxgueBRk
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Apr 19 19:45:32 <taub>	 thestringpuller> the 1% induced a panic sell
Apr 19 19:45:37 <taub>	that's a bs theory
Apr 19 19:45:47 <taub>	price went up to fast
Apr 19 19:45:49 <taub>	had to come down fast
Apr 19 19:46:26 <taub>	lag mabye helped it a long a bit... but I doubt it was the main cause
Apr 19 19:47:06 <taub>	nm tiberius already answerd it
Apr 19 19:47:16 <kakobrekla>	what is this dog?
Apr 19 19:47:31 <taub>	yes, hello this is dog
Apr 19 19:47:46 <kakobrekla>	ooo, great success!
Apr 19 19:49:58 <copumpkin>	oh shit, not the 1%
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Apr 19 20:01:55 <tiberiusiv>	taub: id ignore thestringpuller
Apr 19 20:02:05 <tiberiusiv>	just another clueless twit
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Apr 19 20:14:00 <taub>	[A
Apr 19 20:14:07 <taub>	http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/19/article-2311443-1962A4D3000005DC-986_964x711.jpg
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Apr 19 20:19:05 <KRS1>	are these cats in bitcoin analysis bullshitting about going way down
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Apr 19 20:24:00 <copumpkin>	KRS1: how do you mean?
Apr 19 20:25:04 <KRS1>	sorry my bad
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Apr 19 21:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.75 = 8.75 BTC [-]
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Apr 19 23:59:59 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 100
Apr 20 00:00:01 <gribble>	There are currently 24841.629 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2627352.82665 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0065 seconds
Apr 20 00:00:04 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 20 00:00:04 <gribble>	expecting to test 110, 100 | resistance: 123 | lower buy targets: 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 19 2013, 9:43 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 18 hours, 17 minutes, and 2 seconds ago
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Apr 20 00:09:24 <thestringpuller>	hell yea bitcoinity has campbx!
Apr 20 00:18:50 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Apr 20 00:30:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19661 @ 0.00070524 = 13.8657 BTC [+]
Apr 20 00:30:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00070913 = 11.3461 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 01:24:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1801 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 01:35:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3918 @ 0.00071374 = 2.7964 BTC [+]
Apr 20 01:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8612 @ 0.00071494 = 6.1571 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 01:50:17 <KRS1>	;;eightball is there more to life than money?
Apr 20 01:50:17 <gribble>	Of course.
Apr 20 01:50:26 <KRS1>	thanks ill go see
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Apr 20 01:55:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00070961 = 14.7599 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 02:03:40 <mod6>	$depth S.MPOE
Apr 20 02:03:41 <mpexbot>	mod6: S.MPOE Bids: ['20551 @ 0.00069994', '11276 @ 0.00069931', '29000 @ 0.00068856', '9847 @ 0.0006885', '5000 @ 0.00068591']
Apr 20 02:03:42 <mpexbot>	mod6: Asks: ['809 @ 0.00071494', '3504 @ 0.00071499', '2000 @ 0.000715', '23000 @ 0.000715', '5926 @ 0.0007199']
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Apr 20 02:17:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071318 = 3.5659 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 02:19:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071397 = 7.1397 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 02:43:31 <jurov>	morning! Seems half of chan has hangover :D
Apr 20 02:44:28 <KRS1>	passover>
Apr 20 02:46:19 <Chaang-Noi>	its been dead for weeks it seems
Apr 20 02:46:26 <Chaang-Noi>	since the crash from 260
Apr 20 02:46:29 <Chaang-Noi>	and even a bit before
Apr 20 02:51:12 *	ezdiy is now known as info
Apr 20 02:51:39 <damientrog>	morning
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Apr 20 02:52:59 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
Apr 20 02:53:33 *	info is now known as ezdiy
Apr 20 02:55:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00071397 = 0.1428 BTC [+]
Apr 20 02:55:20 <jurov>	At least gox has heartbeat...interesting pattern on bitcoinity lol
Apr 20 02:55:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00069994 = 5.4595 BTC [-]
Apr 20 02:55:50 <KRS1>	sup man
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Apr 20 02:57:07 <KRS1>	orders are pretty much mixed..looks almost 50/50
Apr 20 02:57:32 <damientrog>	isn't that a sign the market is stabilizing?
Apr 20 02:57:45 <KRS1>	weekends are usually like this i though
Apr 20 02:57:52 <KRS1>	i thought
Apr 20 02:58:15 <damientrog>	usually it went down, the bull race before the crash it kept going up doing weekends as well
Apr 20 02:58:25 <mod6>	for a while you could count on the weekend dip -- seemed to kinda subside ever since the end of '12
Apr 20 02:59:35 <KRS1>	could it just be spring break
Apr 20 02:59:39 <jurov>	dip still occurs, randomly...that could be just a lucky streak
Apr 20 02:59:48 <KRS1>	kids shut their consoles down?
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Apr 20 03:00:14 <jurov>	haha...let's close all exchanges for a week and announce spring break
Apr 20 03:00:23 <KRS1>	woooo
Apr 20 03:00:37 <jurov>	We're close already.
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Apr 20 03:00:45 <mod6>	otc ftw
Apr 20 03:00:52 <KRS1>	i was talking about kids who DoS the exchanges
Apr 20 03:01:21 <KRS1>	idk i might be too tired
Apr 20 03:01:21 <damientrog>	not sure if they're just kids
Apr 20 03:01:25 <KRS1>	not thinking
Apr 20 03:01:43 <KRS1>	dont underestimate em
Apr 20 03:02:00 <damientrog>	could be very organised criminals
Apr 20 03:02:11 <damientrog>	bring down the price, and buy low
Apr 20 03:02:21 <KRS1>	i was hacking/phreaking back in high school and getting nervous whenever cop cars drove by my house..not that i was doing anything...or anything.
Apr 20 03:02:24 <damientrog>	while all the rest is panicking
Apr 20 03:03:01 <damientrog>	oh well what do I know
Apr 20 03:03:28 <damientrog>	KRS1, you're not the only one doing that in high school :)
Apr 20 03:04:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Apr 20 03:04:53 <KRS1>	i "wasn't" lol that was a long time ago..i lived the life of whats printed on the pages of journals like 2600
Apr 20 03:05:12 <damientrog>	that was a bit before my time
Apr 20 03:05:17 <KRS1>	just for more video games and the thrill of using a divertor
Apr 20 03:05:32 <KRS1>	or getting access to thousands of voice mailboxes
Apr 20 03:05:38 <damientrog>	and 2600 frequency didn't work in my country :(
Apr 20 03:05:39 <KRS1>	i think i said too much already.
Apr 20 03:05:54 <KRS1>	www.2600.com/
Apr 20 03:06:31 <damientrog>	I was once suspended 2 weeks for hacking school computers
Apr 20 03:06:49 <damientrog>	I learned more those 2 weeks than the rest of my school years
Apr 20 03:07:11 <damientrog>	I learned another language and anything I wanted to learn :)
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Apr 20 03:07:20 <damientrog>	good times
Apr 20 03:07:30 <KRS1>	hahaha we had a novell netware LAN where I learned pascal..i got into that and caused some funny stuff to happen but never got caught
Apr 20 03:07:37 <KRS1>	yeah good times man
Apr 20 03:07:58 <mod6>	phrack.org <3
Apr 20 03:08:06 <KRS1>	good one
Apr 20 03:08:37 <KRS1>	blue box was my fav..it worked everywhere
Apr 20 03:09:11 <damientrog>	I gotta entertain my daughter now
Apr 20 03:09:12 <KRS1>	divertors were gold
Apr 20 03:09:18 <damientrog>	she wants to make a puzzle with me
Apr 20 03:09:45 <damientrog>	ttyl
Apr 20 03:09:51 <KRS1>	later man
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Apr 20 03:26:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00070081 = 6.8679 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 03:47:54 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 20 03:47:56 <gribble>	There are currently 53940906 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20851763.9089 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0226 seconds
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Apr 20 03:57:57 <Chaang-Noi>	20 million, not bad
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Apr 20 04:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00070215 = 4.3533 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 04:53:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00070215 = 1.6852 BTC [+]
Apr 20 04:53:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00069994 = 3.3597 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 05:07:57 <MJR__>	hi all
Apr 20 05:08:21 <MJR__>	kakobrekla: you here?
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Apr 20 05:17:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7951 @ 0.00069994 = 5.5652 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:17:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11276 @ 0.00069931 = 7.8854 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:17:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3573 @ 0.00068591 = 2.4508 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:17:37 <MJR__>	;;ticker
Apr 20 05:17:37 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.00000, Best ask: 120.34850, Bid-ask spread: 0.34850, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 116896.56146787, 24 hour low: 110.25010, 24 hour high: 127.99900, 24 hour vwap: 118.05874
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Apr 20 05:27:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/
Apr 20 05:29:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000699 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 05:36:03 <MJR__>	mircea_popescu: hi
Apr 20 05:36:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.186 BTC [+]
Apr 20 05:36:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1811 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:36:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.181 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:36:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:36:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.17 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:36:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:37:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:37:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.12 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 05:37:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:37:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.102 BTC [-]
Apr 20 05:37:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 05:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	MJR__  heya
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Apr 20 05:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla this chanel is so quiet now. you broke it.
Apr 20 05:40:47 <MJR__>	lol, yeah
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Apr 20 05:51:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00068687 = 4.1899 BTC [+]
Apr 20 05:54:59 <Chaang-Noi>	its been very dead, kinda crazy
Apr 20 05:55:13 <Chaang-Noi>	AM sell off
Apr 20 05:57:41 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Apr 20 05:57:57 <MJR__>	good morning
Apr 20 05:58:13 <kakobrekla>	sup
Apr 20 05:58:28 <kakobrekla>	you guys up alrady ? :)
Apr 20 05:58:33 <kakobrekla>	already
Apr 20 05:58:50 <MJR__>	yep
Apr 20 05:58:58 <MJR__>	coffee in the restaurant
Apr 20 05:59:07 <kakobrekla>	aha!
Apr 20 05:59:12 <kakobrekla>	ill join you
Apr 20 05:59:29 <MJR__>	perfect, thinking of taking a bike ride
Apr 20 06:00:20 <kakobrekla>	o, wait
Apr 20 06:00:25 <kakobrekla>	whats the time 1 or 2
Apr 20 06:00:38 <MJR__>	its 1
Apr 20 06:00:51 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Apr 20 06:00:53 <kakobrekla>	fuckin great!
Apr 20 06:00:57 <kakobrekla>	i thought it was 2
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Apr 20 06:01:12 <MJR__>	yep, extra hour, didnt get back till 6am
Apr 20 06:01:12 <kakobrekla>	(the tv says its 2)
Apr 20 06:01:16 <MJR__>	ah
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Apr 20 06:03:41 <bowjob>	looks like we won the bet 420
Apr 20 06:03:52 <kakobrekla>	is it 420$?
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Apr 20 06:07:04 <bowjob>	yeah
Apr 20 06:07:13 <bowjob>	the $420 bet
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Apr 20 06:07:16 <bowjob>	for the no side
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Apr 20 06:07:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i lack context, what was the bet?
Apr 20 06:08:14 <bowjob>	by 4/20, btc reaches $420
Apr 20 06:08:45 <bowjob>	I had some delicious shit today
Apr 20 06:08:46 <Chaang-Noi>	oh lol
Apr 20 06:08:53 <Chaang-Noi>	you ate shit?
Apr 20 06:09:11 <bowjob>	http://www.urbanspoon.com/rph/14/180621/1308000/vancouver-finch-s-tea-coffee-house-finch-s-tea-coffee-house-photo?page=1
Apr 20 06:10:00 <bowjob>	Blue brie, sliced pear, prosciutto, roasted walnuts baguette, then coffee and the best damn chocolate chip cookie i've ever had
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Apr 20 06:11:20 <Chaang-Noi>	cool
Apr 20 06:11:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i had nachos
Apr 20 06:11:32 <bowjob>	and then had japadog, and some of the finest gelatos around
Apr 20 06:11:37 <bowjob>	im such a hedonist
Apr 20 06:11:37 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 20 06:14:17 <mircea_popescu>	<kakobrekla> i thought it was 2 << shut up and starve :D
Apr 20 06:14:32 <Sinbios>	bowjob: there's still 18 hours left!!
Apr 20 06:14:56 <bowjob>	oh.
Apr 20 06:15:01 <damientrog>	I am planning to put up a name and shame page of all dishonest bitcoin.de traders
Apr 20 06:15:05 <bowjob>	well, i doubt it will hit $420 anyay
Apr 20 06:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 20 06:15:19 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.50000, Best ask: 119.86999, Bid-ask spread: 0.36999, Last trade: 119.50000, 24 hour volume: 94912.78998995, 24 hour low: 110.45000, 24 hour high: 124.29998, 24 hour vwap: 117.75519
Apr 20 06:15:19 <damientrog>	I lost over 10K because of these bastards
Apr 20 06:15:22 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 20 06:16:09 <bowjob>	some noob is now complaining he's about to lose coins because he sneaked in a bet with low weight
Apr 20 06:16:09 <damientrog>	anyone support me on this?
Apr 20 06:16:10 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 20 06:16:40 <bowjob>	damien. this reminds me of this kid who crossed me out of 3 btc
Apr 20 06:17:01 <bowjob>	not just me, but a mod a btctalk as well. he's gonna get doxed
Apr 20 06:17:09 <bowjob>	maybe you should do the same
Apr 20 06:17:34 <damientrog>	I'm speaking of reasonably high volume trades
Apr 20 06:18:40 <bowjob>	well, when btc hits 10k ea
Apr 20 06:18:43 <bowjob>	you wont feel to good
Apr 20 06:20:01 <damientrog>	I have trades of 40, 30, 50, 20, etc. all not paying up
Apr 20 06:20:10 <damientrog>	silver members
Apr 20 06:20:21 <bowjob>	already fantasizing hiring a hitman to cap the theif's knees
Apr 20 06:21:54 <damientrog>	cherry picking bastards
Apr 20 06:22:48 <MJR__>	lol
Apr 20 06:24:30 <bowjob>	thats 16k you lost
Apr 20 06:24:36 <bowjob>	well, you know what to do. play S.Dice
Apr 20 06:24:39 <bowjob>	>_>
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Apr 20 06:25:27 <truffles>	hi bowjob
Apr 20 06:25:34 <bowjob>	watup
Apr 20 06:25:52 <truffles>	not a thing
Apr 20 06:25:58 <mircea_popescu>	damientrog you should.
Apr 20 06:25:59 <truffles>	rich uet
Apr 20 06:26:08 <truffles>	yet*
Apr 20 06:26:39 <bowjob>	i just found out an avalon 2 sold for 50k
Apr 20 06:26:41 <bowjob>	for a pre order
Apr 20 06:26:47 <bowjob>	yeezus.
Apr 20 06:27:15 <truffles>	wouldve been worth it if they got it weeks ago no?
Apr 20 06:27:32 <bowjob>	well, they would have been killed by the rally
Apr 20 06:27:41 <bowjob>	but then again its recent. so the buyer must be bullish
Apr 20 06:28:07 <truffles>	guess that buyer wasnt u
Apr 20 06:28:53 <bowjob>	my feet are killing me
Apr 20 06:28:54 <bowjob>	:/
Apr 20 06:29:01 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob 50k where?
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Apr 20 06:29:08 <bowjob>	I spent around 4 hours walking around stanley parl
Apr 20 06:29:11 <bowjob>	park
Apr 20 06:29:22 <truffles>	what did u do
Apr 20 06:29:29 <truffles>	just walk nm
Apr 20 06:29:31 <bowjob>	http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321106241910
Apr 20 06:29:44 <bowjob>	ate out, at 3 different establishments
Apr 20 06:30:02 <bowjob>	explored downtown vanouver. walked my way to stanley park
Apr 20 06:30:18 <bowjob>	ive probably walked 6 hours worth in aggregate time today
Apr 20 06:30:20 <truffles>	what kind of foods
Apr 20 06:30:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i have the very first bfl order... i wonder if that would get close to that on ebay...
Apr 20 06:30:36 <truffles>	im getting hungry myself
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Apr 20 06:31:10 <truffles>	2 changs
Apr 20 06:31:17 <bowjob>	I've had this
Apr 20 06:31:17 <bowjob>	http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/j5nWIkValLXxPKFhJKRumA/l.jpg
Apr 20 06:31:55 <bowjob>	and this
Apr 20 06:31:56 <Chaang-Noi>	im not sure where the other chaang is
Apr 20 06:31:56 <bowjob>	http://loop48.com/bump/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/japadogmenu20091206.jpg
Apr 20 06:32:07 <truffles>	creative
Apr 20 06:32:09 <truffles>	looks yum
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Apr 20 06:32:29 <bowjob>	and this
Apr 20 06:32:30 <bowjob>	http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/AG6_uYZwJy89rbbDExkvmQ/l.jpg
Apr 20 06:32:31 <truffles>	lol japadog
Apr 20 06:32:51 <bowjob>	one of the finest gelato places in the world, probably
Apr 20 06:33:03 <bowjob>	the owner went to italy.. and beat the italians at their own game. lol.
Apr 20 06:33:15 <truffles>	u told me a bout the gelato place
Apr 20 06:33:26 <bowjob>	aye
Apr 20 06:33:34 <bowjob>	I always go there when i go to downtown
Apr 20 06:33:46 <truffles>	must be nice
Apr 20 06:33:50 <truffles>	id like some japadog
Apr 20 06:33:51 <bowjob>	then I bought 5 boxes of matcha pocky
Apr 20 06:33:56 <bowjob>	yeah its amazing here
Apr 20 06:34:10 <bowjob>	i only spent 70
Apr 20 06:34:45 <truffles>	thats a lot to me
Apr 20 06:34:49 <bowjob>	and then yeah, stanley park. i heard people get quickies there
Apr 20 06:34:54 <truffles>	teriyaki sauce yumm
Apr 20 06:35:02 <bowjob>	its such a big park.. i dont doubt lol
Apr 20 06:35:05 <truffles>	"heard" lol
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Apr 20 06:35:20 <bowjob>	theres 2 effing lakes there in the park
Apr 20 06:35:33 <bowjob>	lots of hot chicks
Apr 20 06:35:40 <bowjob>	but idk, vancouver wimmenz
Apr 20 06:35:47 <bowjob>	they like louis vuitton, hermes, ect
Apr 20 06:35:51 <bowjob>	trendy people here
Apr 20 06:35:52 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 20 06:35:57 <truffles>	which of the japadogs did u get
Apr 20 06:36:02 <truffles>	they all look sooo good
Apr 20 06:36:04 <bowjob>	okonomi is delicious
Apr 20 06:36:06 <bowjob>	So good
Apr 20 06:36:11 <bowjob>	The funny thing about japadog..
Apr 20 06:36:18 <bowjob>	is it's a canadian invention
Apr 20 06:36:22 <bowjob>	not a japanese one
Apr 20 06:36:39 <truffles>	the name is so not kosher heh
Apr 20 06:36:59 <bowjob>	the guy who made it was japanese, he wanted to make hotdogs witha  twist
Apr 20 06:37:09 <bowjob>	so he put some seaweed
Apr 20 06:37:14 <bowjob>	then it went viral here
Apr 20 06:37:47 <bowjob>	thats an old ad btw, the prices have gone up
Apr 20 06:38:15 <bowjob>	and they have this new avocado hotdog.. its bratwurst hotdog with onions and avocados with an aburi twist
Apr 20 06:38:25 <bowjob>	they use a blowtorch to sear the avocado..
Apr 20 06:38:26 <truffles>	edamame has my name on it
Apr 20 06:38:52 <bowjob>	its only available during the early hours, since they only serve 10 of those htodogs
Apr 20 06:39:07 <bowjob>	apparently making them is a hassle
Apr 20 06:39:12 <truffles>	sounds really good
Apr 20 06:39:22 <bowjob>	aye.
Apr 20 06:39:22 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah that is the one id get
Apr 20 06:39:40 <bowjob>	i settled for okonomi. it was super yummy
Apr 20 06:39:51 <truffles>	doesnt food sound better than sex..
Apr 20 06:39:57 <bowjob>	yeah
Apr 20 06:39:57 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 20 06:40:09 <bowjob>	vancouver's food scene is amazing
Apr 20 06:40:17 <truffles>	wouldve never guessed
Apr 20 06:40:33 <bowjob>	but its really expensive here too
Apr 20 06:40:46 <truffles>	ure doing just fine
Apr 20 06:40:49 <bowjob>	aye
Apr 20 06:40:53 <bowjob>	bitcoin and all
Apr 20 06:41:07 <truffles>	balling out of control
Apr 20 06:41:19 <truffles>	id become fat for sure
Apr 20 06:41:22 <bowjob>	nah, im pretty chill with spending usually
Apr 20 06:41:33 <bowjob>	but i do have a weakness for food
Apr 20 06:42:14 <truffles>	id try to make them  myself too
Apr 20 06:45:12 <bowjob>	back in 2010 olympics, i heard of reports of up to 3 hrs lineup
Apr 20 06:45:14 <bowjob>	for japadog
Apr 20 06:45:36 <bowjob>	lemme find the vid
Apr 20 06:46:15 <truffles>	no need
Apr 20 06:46:25 <truffles>	i dunno if im that patient
Apr 20 06:46:28 <bowjob>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CuiGMoQ3J0
Apr 20 06:46:33 <bowjob>	Fn' hilarious
Apr 20 06:46:39 <bowjob>	I get my japadogs in under 10 minutes
Apr 20 06:46:47 <bowjob>	remember they have to cook them individually
Apr 20 06:46:57 <bowjob>	from that one effing cart
Apr 20 06:48:20 <bowjob>	Heck, even this guy tried em. http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6037/6246105337_f5ee9b09b3_z.jpg
Apr 20 06:49:11 <truffles>	facebook?
Apr 20 06:49:26 <bowjob>	aye
Apr 20 06:49:39 <truffles>	i know more about reality tv than tech people
Apr 20 06:49:44 <truffles>	but i got that 1
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Apr 20 06:50:05 <bowjob>	that place only accepts cash
Apr 20 06:50:11 <bowjob>	the carts at least
Apr 20 06:51:48 <truffles>	ok
Apr 20 06:53:36 <bowjob>	i know a restaurant in van that can burn about 5 btc for 2 people
Apr 20 06:53:48 <bowjob>	i wont even dare to go there lol
Apr 20 06:54:16 <truffles>	seems to be less on the plate the more money spent
Apr 20 06:54:55 <bowjob>	or at least not yet
Apr 20 06:55:08 <bowjob>	depeding on the btc price lol
Apr 20 06:55:50 <truffles>	if i were a millionaire i prob wouldnt care but if it doesnt fit the price whyd i pay
Apr 20 06:57:03 <bowjob>	you soon will be, honestly
Apr 20 06:57:24 <truffles>	will be paying?
Apr 20 06:57:44 <truffles>	i just wouldnt aim for those things
Apr 20 06:58:24 <bowjob>	aye. im actually relatively low maintenance, i dont require much.. cept food
Apr 20 06:58:35 <bowjob>	its much cheaper than say, owning cars, ect
Apr 20 06:58:52 <truffles>	if uve got places to go then maybe
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Apr 20 06:59:26 <bowjob>	its a nightmare to drive around downtown vancouver anyway
Apr 20 06:59:27 <bowjob>	lol
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Apr 20 06:59:38 <bowjob>	i saw a lambo today. poor lambo couldnt breath
Apr 20 06:59:48 <bowjob>	she couldn't speed because traffic everywhere
Apr 20 06:59:59 <Chaang-Noi>	i want one
Apr 20 07:00:07 <MJR__>	anyone know the qeueu at gox?
Apr 20 07:00:08 <bowjob>	aventador eh
Apr 20 07:00:10 <truffles>	i just got into watching a show about restoring cars
Apr 20 07:00:15 <kakobrekla>	<9000
Apr 20 07:00:21 <Chaang-Noi>	id like to know the queue as well
Apr 20 07:00:26 <kakobrekla>	>9000
Apr 20 07:00:29 <Chaang-Noi>	under 9k hmm
Apr 20 07:00:29 <MJR__>	nice! aventador is bad ass
Apr 20 07:00:31 <truffles>	was that an over 9000 joke
Apr 20 07:00:35 <kakobrekla>	its over 9000
Apr 20 07:00:38 <kakobrekla>	ya
Apr 20 07:00:39 <truffles>	lol
Apr 20 07:00:40 <kakobrekla>	a failed one
Apr 20 07:00:44 <MJR__>	;;bids
Apr 20 07:00:44 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 20 07:00:50 <truffles>	i got it
Apr 20 07:00:51 <MJR__>	;;bids 0
Apr 20 07:00:54 <gribble>	There are currently 53939937 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21012027.8589 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0119 seconds
Apr 20 07:00:55 <bowjob>	well, it may as well be >9000
Apr 20 07:01:42 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh over 9k
Apr 20 07:01:46 <Chaang-Noi>	id like to know how much over
Apr 20 07:02:29 <truffles>	350
Apr 20 07:02:41 <Chaang-Noi>	9350?
Apr 20 07:02:57 <truffles>	hehe
Apr 20 07:03:21 <Chaang-Noi>	i got it but the less than i was like wtf and just assumed not a joke:)
Apr 20 07:09:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01497 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:09:48 <truffles>	i was going to make flourless chocolate cake today
Apr 20 07:09:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 98 @ 0.01498 = 1.468 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:09:54 <truffles>	too lazi
Apr 20 07:09:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1427 @ 0.00068591 = 0.9788 BTC [-]
Apr 20 07:10:18 <bowjob>	ooh i love that stuff
Apr 20 07:10:18 <jurov>	Lol just eat the choc
Apr 20 07:10:30 <bowjob>	i actually took some cooking courses
Apr 20 07:10:32 <truffles>	yep super sweet
Apr 20 07:10:33 <Chaang-Noi>	“I'm an anaphylactic polar bear with a bunny rabbit shoved up my ass.”
Apr 20 07:10:39 <bowjob>	i learned mostly jack shit.
Apr 20 07:10:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1009 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:10:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 12 @ 0.10174 = 1.2209 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:10:56 <bowjob>	I do know how to cut cucumbers and slice stuff without slicing my fingers though
Apr 20 07:11:04 <truffles>	maybe i should take some cooking courses, learn some tricks
Apr 20 07:11:15 <bowjob>	and I can break eggs with one hand
Apr 20 07:11:17 <truffles>	a lil more advance than that
Apr 20 07:11:22 <bowjob>	k, not that impressive but lol
Apr 20 07:11:59 <truffles>	so u didnt learn how to make anything?
Apr 20 07:12:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.3459 = 1.7295 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:12:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.345979 = 0.692 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:12:12 <bowjob>	oddly enough, the 'funnest' job was to clean the dishes. the water was warm, ect
Apr 20 07:12:22 <truffles>	hate dishes
Apr 20 07:12:23 <bowjob>	nah, it was more like a slave course
Apr 20 07:12:35 <Chaang-Noi>	I'm a multi, multi, multi-millionaire. I'm an American entrepreneur. The irony right now is that I feel like an anaphylactic polar bear with a bunny rabbit shoved up his ass. I'm not gonna explain it to you.  It's just that thing, money, money, money, money. Everybody's trying to get to that bunny rabbit.
Apr 20 07:12:38 <bowjob>	a labour intensive course
Apr 20 07:12:51 <truffles>	unless ure cooking for like a career i find that stuff tedious
Apr 20 07:13:26 <truffles>	ok chaang
Apr 20 07:13:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.1975 = 1.7775 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:14:04 <Chaang-Noi>	truffles was a quote from a movie
Apr 20 07:14:13 <Chaang-Noi>	i spit my beer out when i hear it
Apr 20 07:14:17 <Chaang-Noi>	heard
Apr 20 07:14:29 <Chaang-Noi>	go cognitive!   why so high now?
Apr 20 07:14:38 <Chaang-Noi>	must be the faith in bfl
Apr 20 07:15:05 <truffles>	so money is the rabbit
Apr 20 07:15:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01498 = 0.1498 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:15:11 <truffles>	we're all chasing it?
Apr 20 07:15:12 <Chaang-Noi>	eveidently
Apr 20 07:15:15 <Chaang-Noi>	from the movie middle men
Apr 20 07:15:25 <Chaang-Noi>	russian mafia is trying to get their money
Apr 20 07:15:37 <truffles>	oh like mafia stories
Apr 20 07:15:42 <truffles>	usually entertaining
Apr 20 07:15:56 <Chaang-Noi>	its about the first time credit cards were used on the internet
Apr 20 07:16:07 <Chaang-Noi>	its a lot like where we qare with btc but 2 years ago
Apr 20 07:16:10 <Chaang-Noi>	its a good movie
Apr 20 07:16:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i partly got into btc cuz this fucker when he made this movie visa cut off his banking shit
Apr 20 07:16:41 <Chaang-Noi>	so some of my money is in some fucking island bank that they wont release
Apr 20 07:16:45 <Chaang-Noi>	btc.. muhahaha
Apr 20 07:16:53 <Chaang-Noi>	fuck visa/paypal and all the others
Apr 20 07:17:21 <truffles>	if i knew about bitcoin 2 years ago maybe id be rich weee
Apr 20 07:17:47 <truffles>	i dont get how bitcoin rich use it
Apr 20 07:17:57 <Chaang-Noi>	well knowing and having the faith/vision not the same
Apr 20 07:18:02 <truffles>	can u buy a car with bitcoin
Apr 20 07:18:14 <Chaang-Noi>	yes you can buy a jeep at a dealership
Apr 20 07:18:15 <truffles>	i have faith in God not bitcoin :)
Apr 20 07:18:22 <Chaang-Noi>	or a guy just sold a porsche
Apr 20 07:18:29 <bowjob>	i learned about bitcoin in 2011, i thought it was a stupid idea
Apr 20 07:18:33 <Chaang-Noi>	is your God a sky god?
Apr 20 07:18:41 <bowjob>	when it was 12 dollars, all the runup to 31
Apr 20 07:18:47 <truffles>	sky God has helped me so far
Apr 20 07:18:52 <bowjob>	i told my boss when it hit 31, seemed mildly interested
Apr 20 07:18:54 <bowjob>	then it crashed
Apr 20 07:18:55 <Chaang-Noi>	when i first learned about it i did not think it would take off, but loved the idea, so i delayted
Apr 20 07:19:01 <bowjob>	and i stfu'd lol
Apr 20 07:19:26 <Chaang-Noi>	shit was that 2 years ago?
Apr 20 07:19:31 <Chaang-Noi>	that crash damn
Apr 20 07:19:37 <bowjob>	yeah
Apr 20 07:19:41 <bowjob>	i thought bitcoin was done for
Apr 20 07:19:42 <Chaang-Noi>	seems like months ago
Apr 20 07:19:48 <bowjob>	ive largely ignored bitcoin in 2012
Apr 20 07:19:55 <bowjob>	i saw it went from 2, to 5, then to 8
Apr 20 07:20:04 <bowjob>	by ten bucks i knew it was onto something
Apr 20 07:20:10 <bowjob>	i got in at 12.75
Apr 20 07:20:11 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 20 07:20:21 <truffles>	well not everyone knew about it
Apr 20 07:20:27 <truffles>	esp the not so tech savvy
Apr 20 07:20:32 <Chaang-Noi>	im a miner, i never bought a btc
Apr 20 07:20:37 <bowjob>	i told my friends about it, they thought i was insane
Apr 20 07:20:41 <bowjob>	maybe i am.. hehe
Apr 20 07:20:52 <truffles>	id prefer to mine for them
Apr 20 07:21:02 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i had like all these computers making this imaginary money, yeah i got loled at lots
Apr 20 07:21:04 <bowjob>	chang, u in asic
Apr 20 07:21:25 <Chaang-Noi>	bowjob i have the first bfl order and im a big asicminer holder
Apr 20 07:21:31 <Chaang-Noi>	and i hold cognitive stock, about 5%
Apr 20 07:21:39 <Chaang-Noi>	so yes but not directly
Apr 20 07:21:43 <Chaang-Noi>	right now i dont mine at all
Apr 20 07:21:44 <bowjob>	gj on the asic miner
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Apr 20 07:22:03 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks, i just liked friedcat, i trusted him, had no idea about his project
Apr 20 07:22:07 <Chaang-Noi>	thank fuck i bought in
Apr 20 07:22:18 <bowjob>	i just went for avalon 2, had no idea what i was doing
Apr 20 07:22:27 <bowjob>	nore have i ever mined before
Apr 20 07:22:42 <bowjob>	i have enough faith in myself to read instructions on how to mine, lol
Apr 20 07:23:19 <truffles>	i dont like that not every1 has same opportunity to mine
Apr 20 07:23:28 <Chaang-Noi>	im too lazy now to fuck with it
Apr 20 07:23:30 <bowjob>	well, they did
Apr 20 07:23:38 <bowjob>	i wasnt sure about avalon 2
Apr 20 07:23:59 <bowjob>	i thought to myself, i gambled hundreds of btc at dice, whats 56 BTC for an avalon
Apr 20 07:24:14 <Chaang-Noi>	:)
Apr 20 07:24:19 <bowjob>	ive wisened up and switched to owning satoshi dice shares instead
Apr 20 07:24:22 <bowjob>	and got out before the crash
Apr 20 07:24:23 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 20 07:24:32 <bowjob>	i got out at .75 and .62
Apr 20 07:24:52 <truffles>	.75 what units
Apr 20 07:24:53 <bowjob>	i saw shit going downhill from there, since people wont bet as much with higher btc point
Apr 20 07:24:56 <Chaang-Noi>	i never touched it, thought it was a bad idea
Apr 20 07:25:06 <Chaang-Noi>	i saw it trade at something like .0012 or something
Apr 20 07:25:18 <bowjob>	i didnt buy the "new users would make up for less volume crap"
Apr 20 07:25:39 <truffles>	.75 out of 1 bitcoin?
Apr 20 07:25:40 <bowjob>	voorhees argued that people would feel "wealthy, and more inclined to bet"
Apr 20 07:26:01 <bowjob>	i didnt buy it, no matter how nice he was lol. it was risky for me, but it paid off
Apr 20 07:26:14 <bowjob>	.75 bitcoins for 100 shares
Apr 20 07:26:16 <bowjob>	i was at havelock
Apr 20 07:26:51 <bowjob>	though dice is doing fine this month apparently
Apr 20 07:26:56 <bowjob>	volume is kinda flat tho
Apr 20 07:27:46 <bowjob>	chang, type satoshidice.com
Apr 20 07:27:46 <truffles>	shares of s.dice right?
Apr 20 07:27:49 <bowjob>	yes
Apr 20 07:28:05 <truffles>	ok
Apr 20 07:28:06 <bowjob>	i used to play dice to win money.. i had 78 bitcoins, ended up with 287
Apr 20 07:28:12 <bowjob>	only to lose it all and go into red
Apr 20 07:28:14 <bowjob>	>_>
Apr 20 07:28:17 <bowjob>	my stupidity
Apr 20 07:28:58 <truffles>	i guess its not a skill game
Apr 20 07:29:06 <truffles>	unless ure unskilled for it
Apr 20 07:29:19 <bowjob>	I was convinced that I found a "flaw" in the system, in the form a skewed probability for me, the binimial distribution wasnt adding up
Apr 20 07:29:25 <bowjob>	(binomial
Apr 20 07:29:31 <jurov>	bowjob let me realy heartfelt thanks from shareholders
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Apr 20 07:29:39 <jurov>	to you
Apr 20 07:29:39 <bowjob>	but looking back now, the sample size was not enough
Apr 20 07:29:44 <bowjob>	Aye, np
Apr 20 07:29:51 <bowjob>	I got em back from the shares
Apr 20 07:29:56 <bowjob>	so i played double agen
Apr 20 07:29:56 <bowjob>	t
Apr 20 07:29:57 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 20 07:30:21 <truffles>	degenerate gamblor hehe
Apr 20 07:30:39 <bowjob>	I learned not to touch taht shit anymore. in a way, ive become wise
Apr 20 07:30:40 <bowjob>	:P
Apr 20 07:31:04 <bowjob>	http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ch7wb/starting_with_almost_nothing_i_made_almost_500000/
Apr 20 07:31:08 <bowjob>	Try this guy. Lost 500k
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Apr 20 07:31:26 <bowjob>	This guy is royally buttfucked
Apr 20 07:31:33 <truffles>	wow
Apr 20 07:31:37 <bowjob>	I mean, I felt it too... but not to this extent
Apr 20 07:31:58 <bowjob>	At the time, I only had 10k in fiat, i went. wtf am i doing
Apr 20 07:32:13 <truffles>	gambling is an addiction
Apr 20 07:32:16 <Chaang-Noi>	its easy to use btc cuz its not like real money
Apr 20 07:32:19 <bowjob>	but yeah, 500k. and he's a math student.. out of all
Apr 20 07:32:22 <bowjob>	chang, exactly.
Apr 20 07:32:25 <truffles>	luckily i only gamble in things im confident in
Apr 20 07:32:26 <bowjob>	100% on point.
Apr 20 07:32:27 <Chaang-Noi>	its why in vegas they give you chips
Apr 20 07:32:38 <bowjob>	I was dealing $500 per gamble on satoshi 73
Apr 20 07:32:44 <bowjob>	getting high on gambling
Apr 20 07:32:53 <bowjob>	I was like, heh 40 bitcoins
Apr 20 07:32:53 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 20 07:33:06 <bowjob>	It did not feel real
Apr 20 07:33:46 <bowjob>	i found myself becoming extremely aggressive after losing a small bet
Apr 20 07:33:58 <bowjob>	like, for example, i bet btc, ect, then lost.
Apr 20 07:34:02 <bowjob>	I'd bet 5 btc
Apr 20 07:34:14 <bowjob>	a string of losses was catastrophic for me
Apr 20 07:34:39 <truffles>	i know that feeling
Apr 20 07:35:22 <jurov>	yes, me too. I left scared
Apr 20 07:35:29 <bowjob>	and knowing full well about gamblers fallacy.. back in jan, i wanted 1 btc to lose at 73% so i could bet 40 BTC next
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Apr 20 07:35:48 <bowjob>	I thought, heh. the odds of .73 losing twice in a row is so small. what the hell
Apr 20 07:35:57 <truffles>	lol
Apr 20 07:36:00 <bowjob>	i knew it was faulty logic.. but it wasnt my brain dealing
Apr 20 07:36:01 <jurov>	omg
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Apr 20 07:36:14 <truffles>	random number generator...
Apr 20 07:36:53 <bowjob>	i know full well that the past events doesn't influence future events for dice
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Apr 20 07:37:08 <MJR____>	it doesn't feel like that though :)
Apr 20 07:37:09 <punkman1>	a fool and his money...
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Apr 20 07:37:25 <bowjob>	but.. idk, it was extremely insidious(sp?)
Apr 20 07:37:30 <MJR____>	but I account for gambling under entertainment expense
Apr 20 07:37:57 <punkman1>	that's the correct attitude
Apr 20 07:38:16 <truffles>	until u need shrink
Apr 20 07:38:33 <jurov>	until u dont overstep the budget
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Apr 20 07:38:59 <bowjob>	its easy to say, but i've been through that hell, and i've recovered.
Apr 20 07:39:06 <bowjob>	im not going back to that shit again
Apr 20 07:39:07 <bowjob>	lol
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Apr 20 07:39:33 <bowjob>	i do admit that i was depressed for a month
Apr 20 07:40:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10123 @ 0.00068529 = 6.9372 BTC [-]
Apr 20 07:40:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00068687 = 5.701 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:40:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21061 @ 0.00068725 = 14.4742 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:40:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00068791 = 3.0268 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:40:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14587 @ 0.00069242 = 10.1003 BTC [+]
Apr 20 07:40:31 <truffles>	yup will take a toll on you
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Apr 20 07:41:22 <bowjob>	you read his  500k story?
Apr 20 07:41:32 <bowjob>	he hasn't told his fiancee yet
Apr 20 07:41:51 <bowjob>	he's gonna get dumped, kicked out from school, and be in 50k in the red
Apr 20 07:42:51 <truffles>	saw that in title
Apr 20 07:43:06 <truffles>	i cant read that story now heh
Apr 20 07:43:19 <bowjob>	it was depressing
Apr 20 07:43:21 <truffles>	too sad
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Apr 20 07:45:18 <bowjob>	"TIL to only bet on black. "
Apr 20 07:45:25 <bowjob>	Damn, reddit
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Apr 20 07:51:49 <bowjob>	http://pastebin.com/tbBNsD9G
Apr 20 07:51:54 <bowjob>	A moment of silence please..
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Apr 20 07:53:25 <truffles>	plenty silent moments in this channel
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Apr 20 07:59:01 <bowjob>	I wanted to tell him about satoshi less than 1.. just to see how fate would fuck with him
Apr 20 07:59:09 <bowjob>	and have him lose 6400 on bitzino again
Apr 20 07:59:53 <truffles>	evil
Apr 20 08:03:15 <bowjob>	tyme for me to fap then pass out
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Apr 20 08:04:15 <truffles>	tmi
Apr 20 08:04:28 <truffles>	u sleep at odd hours eh
Apr 20 08:04:42 <bowjob>	its 5 am, im a vampire
Apr 20 08:05:11 <truffles>	orly
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Apr 20 08:20:05 <b0n1>	are there any cases of fraud known from in intrsng ?
Apr 20 08:20:45 <b0n1>	or rock?
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Apr 20 08:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.275 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Apr 20 08:24:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 08:36:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.244 = 3.732 BTC [+]
Apr 20 08:37:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24879 BTC [+]
Apr 20 08:37:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2488 = 2.4976 BTC [+]
Apr 20 08:37:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.249 = 2.498 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 08:43:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
Apr 20 08:47:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 08:57:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 09:08:51 <Chaang-Noi>	asic mioner is back :)
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Apr 20 09:12:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 09:24:13 <Chaang-Noi>	is this chan dead cuz no drama?
Apr 20 09:24:23 <Chaang-Noi>	or uis everyone just on silk roads supply?
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Apr 20 09:38:14 <Chaang-Noi>	copumpkin please tell me why its so dead in here.... where is the drama?
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Apr 20 09:46:47 <b0n1>	good point
Apr 20 09:46:50 <b0n1>	;)
Apr 20 09:47:00 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Apr 20 09:47:06 <b0n1>	no turbulence in the market
Apr 20 09:47:17 <Chaang-Noi>	no scandels i guess either
Apr 20 09:47:26 <b0n1>	even that
Apr 20 09:48:17 <KRS1>	Now that btc is dead and everyone is wrapping things up..we should all get together for a farewell party..maybe in Vegas.
Apr 20 09:48:24 <KRS1>	It would be fun =D
Apr 20 09:51:29 <b0n1>	haha :)
Apr 20 09:51:35 <Chaang-Noi>	im okay with that
Apr 20 09:51:47 <Chaang-Noi>	last 5 of 7 blocks by btc guild
Apr 20 09:53:38 <b0n1>	i think most of us here are clearly of the winning side of the whole story ;)
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Apr 20 09:54:26 <b0n1>	dont know anyone from here who did not make good profit
Apr 20 09:55:09 <Chaang-Noi>	as soon as pirate pays im one rich mother fucker
Apr 20 09:56:21 <truffles>	im the poorest itc
Apr 20 09:56:28 <truffles>	no investments waaaa
Apr 20 09:57:23 <b0n1>	hope that some media hipe continues to bring more money in
Apr 20 09:57:32 <b0n1>	otherwise we will play against us sooner or later...
Apr 20 09:57:49 <truffles>	who are the "us"
Apr 20 09:58:14 <b0n1>	community
Apr 20 09:58:20 <b0n1>	excluding newcomers
Apr 20 09:58:29 <b0n1>	that are only attracted by mainstream
Apr 20 09:58:57 <b0n1>	including most people hanging around here in irc
Apr 20 09:59:11 <truffles>	who me? nah
Apr 20 10:00:01 <b0n1>	"most"
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Apr 20 10:08:23 <b0n1>	oh good long time volume low... it gets really boring
Apr 20 10:11:01 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah iv started drinking...
Apr 20 10:11:25 <Chaang-Noi>	iv never seen you here before b0n1
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Apr 20 10:28:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071465 = 3.5733 BTC [+]
Apr 20 10:28:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071466 = 7.1466 BTC [+]
Apr 20 10:28:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.00071499 = 0.5362 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 10:33:49 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 20 10:33:50 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00297466 / 0.00297469 / 0.00297475 (3900 shares, 11.60 BTC), 7D: 0.0012 / 0.0029812 / 0.00439999 (71342 shares, 212.69 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00327373 / 0.00499997 (1630648 shares, 5,338.31 BTC)
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Apr 20 10:35:12 <bitesaaak>	;;bids 0
Apr 20 10:35:15 <gribble>	There are currently 53947344 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21157665.7495 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0282 seconds
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Apr 20 10:35:46 <Chaang-Noi>	21 million w00t
Apr 20 10:36:25 <KRS1>	yeh that is pretty w00t..represents a lot of hard work mining
Apr 20 10:36:43 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Apr 20 10:36:50 <Chaang-Noi>	that is fiat
Apr 20 10:36:55 <Chaang-Noi>	they want to buy btc
Apr 20 10:36:57 <Chaang-Noi>	not miners
Apr 20 10:37:11 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 99999999
Apr 20 10:37:11 <gribble>	There are currently 122322.43 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 1306486311.74 USD in total. | Data vintage: 116.8431 seconds
Apr 20 10:37:15 <Chaang-Noi>	that is miners
Apr 20 10:37:24 <KRS1>	chaang-noi: good for you! drinking is a great hobby.
Apr 20 10:37:31 <KRS1>	You should get a sweet flask.
Apr 20 10:37:49 <Chaang-Noi>	iv not found one that will hold enough beer :/
Apr 20 10:38:22 <Chaang-Noi>	if you see a good one, about 50 oz or so let me know
Apr 20 10:38:23 <KRS1>	hehe
Apr 20 10:38:34 <KRS1>	Are you in the US?
Apr 20 10:38:42 <Chaang-Noi>	thailand
Apr 20 10:38:48 <Chaang-Noi>	im goat
Apr 20 10:39:17 <KRS1>	not sure what beers are there
Apr 20 10:39:29 <Chaang-Noi>	singha chang leo
Apr 20 10:39:47 <KRS1>	Im in the U.S.   On the light side i like Bud Light, Miller Light (Domestic) or Import I really, REALLY like Heineken
Apr 20 10:40:11 <KRS1>	Got an aftertaste of really good hydroponic marijuana to me idk why
Apr 20 10:40:23 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Apr 20 10:40:30 <KRS1>	Havent tried that..Im not a fan of the others really..stout..I like Beers
Apr 20 10:41:08 <bitesaaak>	;;next
Apr 20 10:41:08 <gribble>	expecting a rise toward 126-127 and drop back down toward 115-118, 110 | resistance: 123, 127 | support: 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 20 2013, 7:36 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 7 hours, 5 minutes, and 7 seconds ago
Apr 20 10:41:30 <KRS1>	Tried a Guinness once and it was aweful but I think that one single serving ale got me drunk.
Apr 20 10:41:42 <KRS1>	Hmm. Its morning here in the U.S. I should go have a beer or two..nice buzz.
Apr 20 10:42:14 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Apr 20 10:43:22 <punkman1>	Heineken doesn't even deserve to be called beer
Apr 20 10:45:47 <error4733>	I'm in belgium ! screw you all :)
Apr 20 10:46:53 <error4733>	i can ship some awsome beer
Apr 20 10:48:07 <bitesaaak>	like most things, locally brewed substances are the best
Apr 20 10:49:09 <punkman1>	error4733, can you grab me a case of Westvleteren?
Apr 20 10:51:42 <error4733>	punkman, nice try but no :/
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Apr 20 10:52:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.17001 BTC [-]
Apr 20 10:53:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.17 = 2.34 BTC [-]
Apr 20 10:53:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.166 = 9.328 BTC [-]
Apr 20 10:53:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [-]
Apr 20 10:53:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [-]
Apr 20 10:53:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13 BTC [-]
Apr 20 10:53:58 <punkman1>	I'm gonna have to visit sooner or later
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Apr 20 10:55:32 <punkman1>	error4733: I remember a site that sold belgian beer for bitcoins, was that you?
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Apr 20 10:56:10 <Guest00001>	punkman1 do you try it ?
Apr 20 10:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.74 = 5.22 BTC [-]
Apr 20 10:57:13 <punkman1>	try what?
Apr 20 10:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.255 = 0.765 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 10:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.361001 = 1.805 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 11:00:58 <error4733>	Westvleteren
Apr 20 11:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.73 BTC [-]
Apr 20 11:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25000003 BTC [-]
Apr 20 11:02:43 <error4733>	Japan try to ban TOR : http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20130418p2a00m0na013000c.html
Apr 20 11:02:54 <punkman1>	only had Westvleteren12, want to try the other two
Apr 20 11:03:36 <punkman1>	can't go wrong with some nice steak and a strong beer
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Apr 20 11:13:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11 BTC [-]
Apr 20 11:13:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.199 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 11:24:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00069865 = 1.6069 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 11:26:39 <b0n1>	germen beers > rest
Apr 20 11:26:44 <b0n1>	german
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Apr 20 11:29:41 <farfi>	/j #bitcoin-pricetalk
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Apr 20 11:46:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1975 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 11:48:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3729 @ 0.00069865 = 2.6053 BTC [-]
Apr 20 11:48:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7990 @ 0.00069338 = 5.5401 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 12:00:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00235 BTC [+]
Apr 20 12:00:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 4 @ 0.00235 = 0.0094 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 12:02:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 5 @ 0.00235 = 0.0118 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 12:04:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0982 BTC [-]
Apr 20 12:04:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0981 BTC [-]
Apr 20 12:04:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.098 = 0.98 BTC [-]
Apr 20 12:04:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 19 @ 0.097 = 1.843 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 12:11:06 <kakobrekla>	sup
Apr 20 12:16:06 <kakobrekla>	dead.
Apr 20 12:16:11 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Apr 20 12:19:59 <deadweasel>	blegh
Apr 20 12:20:12 <deadweasel>	rally
Apr 20 12:20:15 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 20 12:20:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 123.98849, Best ask: 123.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01150, Last trade: 123.99999, 24 hour volume: 61689.93491308, 24 hour low: 115.00000, 24 hour high: 123.88000, 24 hour vwap: 119.59518
Apr 20 12:20:27 <truffles>	hi deadweasel
Apr 20 12:20:35 <deadweasel>	hey trf
Apr 20 12:20:38 <deadweasel>	truffles:
Apr 20 12:20:40 <deadweasel>	how you doing?
Apr 20 12:20:45 <truffles>	alright
Apr 20 12:20:50 <truffles>	lil dizzy
Apr 20 12:21:14 <truffles>	u?
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Apr 20 12:21:42 <deadweasel>	dizzy?
Apr 20 12:22:14 <deadweasel>	i'm good.
Apr 20 12:22:17 <truffles>	yea learning to drive, went in a circle
Apr 20 12:22:25 <deadweasel>	lol
Apr 20 12:22:39 <deadweasel>	probably shouldn't be on IRC while driving...
Apr 20 12:22:44 <deadweasel>	;)
Apr 20 12:22:47 <truffles>	no its done
Apr 20 12:23:11 <truffles>	im gonna get some alcohol and watch something
Apr 20 12:23:32 <truffles>	only til i sit down do i feel it ugh
Apr 20 12:24:15 <truffles>	people make it look so easy
Apr 20 12:24:24 <truffles>	so much u have to keep track of
Apr 20 12:24:42 <deadweasel>	driving a manual?
Apr 20 12:24:46 <deadweasel>	automatic?
Apr 20 12:24:51 <truffles>	stick
Apr 20 12:24:58 <deadweasel>	nice!  you will not regret it.
Apr 20 12:25:15 <truffles>	...
Apr 20 12:25:27 <deadweasel>	it's hard to start, just try to relax and listen to the sound of the engine.  you'll eventually know when to shift automatically.  you won't even think about it.
Apr 20 12:25:53 <truffles>	it will take me a while to get used to it
Apr 20 12:26:03 <deadweasel>	yes, but it will be fun.
Apr 20 12:26:13 <truffles>	i dunno about fun heh
Apr 20 12:26:19 <deadweasel>	and if I'm ever bleeding on the side of the road, you'd be able to take me to the hospital in my truck
Apr 20 12:26:35 <truffles>	lol ud die
Apr 20 12:26:40 <truffles>	id drive past
Apr 20 12:27:10 <truffles>	have u not seen scary movies
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Apr 20 12:28:38 <deadweasel>	hahaha, i guess you're right.  I'm on my own.
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Apr 20 12:31:29 <truffles>	going to watch Unknown
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Apr 20 12:35:13 <truffles>	"A man awakens from a coma, only to discover that someone has taken on his identity and that no one, (not even his wife), believes him. With the help of a young woman, he sets out to prove who he is."
Apr 20 12:36:39 <kakobrekla>	people gave up upon weekend dip
Apr 20 12:36:45 <kakobrekla>	rally starting
Apr 20 12:36:47 <kakobrekla>	hehe
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Apr 20 12:37:56 <kakobrekla>	oh wait
Apr 20 12:37:59 <kakobrekla>	sunday is tomorrow
Apr 20 12:38:09 <kakobrekla>	a well pehaps still stands.
Apr 20 12:38:38 <deadweasel>	we'll see.  curious rally, i don't think it will get anywhere.
Apr 20 12:38:53 <deadweasel>	although that's some serious bids
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Apr 20 12:42:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [-]
Apr 20 12:42:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.15 = 9.2 BTC [+]
Apr 20 12:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 12:45:46 <pgp2>	it will go back down - at some point...
Apr 20 12:50:29 <kakobrekla>	you mean down to 200
Apr 20 12:52:13 <error4733>	;;bids 101
Apr 20 12:52:13 <gribble>	There are currently 24685.523 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 2762325.61183 USD in total. | Data vintage: 67.7837 seconds
Apr 20 12:52:22 <error4733>	;;asks 149
Apr 20 12:52:22 <gribble>	There are currently 32190.145 bitcoins offered at or under 149.0 USD, worth 4391426.99655 USD in total. | Data vintage: 76.5542 seconds
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Apr 20 12:52:54 <truffles>	;;bids 170
Apr 20 12:52:54 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 170.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 108.8589 seconds
Apr 20 12:55:59 <truffles>	;;asks 160
Apr 20 12:56:01 <gribble>	There are currently 46650.911 bitcoins offered at or under 160.0 USD, worth 6583993.34858 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0035 seconds
Apr 20 12:56:09 <error4733>	Can't wait for a news drama ! Simon (BTC-24) in jail, MtGox lagging again
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Apr 20 12:56:27 <kakobrekla>	hm in jail?
Apr 20 12:56:30 <kakobrekla>	i must have missed that
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Apr 20 12:56:43 <kakobrekla>	a well
Apr 20 12:56:45 <kakobrekla>	of i go
Apr 20 12:56:45 <kakobrekla>	later
Apr 20 12:56:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00387 = 0.0194 BTC [+]
Apr 20 12:56:51 <kakobrekla>	off
Apr 20 12:57:02 <truffles>	bye
Apr 20 12:57:20 <KRS1>	do i have to set up an api connection so i can trade when gox is not responding? i cant see that the api would respond either for that matter..cant get an order in so wtf do I do when things get hot
Apr 20 12:57:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00069338 = 11.3021 BTC [-]
Apr 20 12:59:25 <error4733>	No he's not in jail
Apr 20 12:59:30 <error4733>	but could be fun
Apr 20 12:59:48 <error4733>	(trading speaking)
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Apr 20 13:00:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.169 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 13:03:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00297471 = 0.0089 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 13:07:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.169 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 13:34:58 <troc->	;;seen evoorhees
Apr 20 13:34:58 <gribble>	evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 11 hours, 7 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <evoorhees> I'm not poor, or suffering, and I'm definitely not a patriot
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Apr 20 13:39:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.126 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 13:40:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1259 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 13:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.405 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 14:04:44 <mod6>	;;ticker
Apr 20 14:04:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 123.67850, Best ask: 123.79999, Bid-ask spread: 0.12149, Last trade: 123.67850, 24 hour volume: 53806.93501200, 24 hour low: 115.00000, 24 hour high: 124.33200, 24 hour vwap: 119.93257
Apr 20 14:04:52 <mod6>	;;bids 90
Apr 20 14:04:54 <gribble>	There are currently 58576.32 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 5977056.0251 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0066 seconds
Apr 20 14:05:17 <mod6>	;;asks 150
Apr 20 14:05:18 <gribble>	There are currently 39206.959 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 5452284.80515 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.4266 seconds
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Apr 20 14:15:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.159 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 14:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.405 BTC [+]
Apr 20 14:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.405 = 2.025 BTC [+]
Apr 20 14:16:19 <dom__>	hey if there is anyone that runs the bitbet.us website online... did you guys implement the affiliate tracking and rewards from scratch or were you able to find something to reuse for this?  thanks
Apr 20 14:21:09 *	jurov is sitting right next to mpoe-pr and she's working on bitcointalk lol
Apr 20 14:22:25 <jurov>	mircea is all business on other side of the table
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Apr 20 14:22:39 <jurov>	send the drones :D
Apr 20 14:25:06 <KRS1>	omg lol @ encyclopedia bitcoinica
Apr 20 14:25:22 <KRS1>	now this is what the internet was needed for..
Apr 20 14:26:18 <KRS1>	ref. the page on there for mpoe-pr
Apr 20 14:26:49 <KRS1>	Mircea Popescu has really nice tits though.
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Apr 20 14:32:52 <error4733>	sure : https://si0.twimg.com/profile_background_images/9854979/tweetar.jpg
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Apr 20 14:38:14 <jurov>	Lol i'm serious. She's real, and it's not mircea with tits.
Apr 20 14:38:48 <KRS1>	that must have been before his boob job..he must have laid out some cash for those girls..they are n-i-c-e
Apr 20 14:39:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8810 @ 0.00069338 = 6.1087 BTC [-]
Apr 20 14:39:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00068776 = 6.6369 BTC [-]
Apr 20 14:39:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00068294 = 2.3903 BTC [-]
Apr 20 14:39:43 <KRS1>	that might not be a purse, and it might be "european" to carry one..but to a country boy in the U.S., its f'n gay
Apr 20 14:40:36 <KRS1>	who goes around with their chest all out anyway...thats gay too.
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Apr 20 14:42:19 <KRS1>	MOAR!
Apr 20 14:42:23 <dom__>	you seem to know a lot about what is gay....
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Apr 20 14:43:47 <mod6>	is it gay if there is an uzzi in there?
Apr 20 14:44:31 <mod6>	*uzi
Apr 20 14:48:55 <error4733>	so when you do shopping in  brazil, you bought nothing bc carrying a bag is gay
Apr 20 14:48:57 <jurov>	Uzi???
Apr 20 14:50:03 <error4733>	it's gay if uzi is pink
Apr 20 14:53:09 <pizzaman2337>	jurov: heh, mpoe-pr is real? pics or it didn't happen
Apr 20 14:58:38 <error4733>	http://i46.tinypic.com/2pplnoh.jpg
Apr 20 14:59:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00070971 = 2.3066 BTC [+]
Apr 20 15:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 15:15:32 <jurov>	It's already on trilema
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Apr 20 15:17:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00071388 = 11.2436 BTC [+]
Apr 20 15:17:20 <jurov>	but that's yest, i was not there yet. I'm told there will be other photo today.
Apr 20 15:18:00 <jurov>	cu later
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Apr 20 15:23:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.18001 BTC [-]
Apr 20 15:23:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1731 BTC [-]
Apr 20 15:23:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15992 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 15:23:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 15:28:23 <KRS1>	this is hilarious
Apr 20 15:28:24 <KRS1>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3PbMlbUtUo
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Apr 20 15:32:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41 @ 0.00068294 = 0.028 BTC [-]
Apr 20 15:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20609 @ 0.00068225 = 14.0605 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 16:01:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4391 @ 0.00068225 = 2.9958 BTC [-]
Apr 20 16:01:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00068201 = 7.7408 BTC [-]
Apr 20 16:01:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12959 @ 0.00068159 = 8.8327 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 16:07:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.169 BTC [+]
Apr 20 16:09:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.118 BTC [-]
Apr 20 16:11:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1989 = 0.3978 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 16:16:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00068424 = 7.7319 BTC [+]
Apr 20 16:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00068561 = 11.3126 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 16:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.409999 = 9.02 BTC [+]
Apr 20 16:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
Apr 20 16:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.415 BTC [+]
Apr 20 16:24:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.41990099 = 2.0995 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 16:50:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.112001 BTC [-]
Apr 20 16:50:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.112 BTC [-]
Apr 20 16:50:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.112 BTC [-]
Apr 20 16:50:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.100001 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Apr 20 16:50:39 <wao>	interesting
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Apr 20 17:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 17:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.41990909 = 0.8398 BTC [+]
Apr 20 17:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25000004 BTC [+]
Apr 20 17:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.25000003 = 1.75 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 17:27:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.2502 BTC [-]
Apr 20 17:28:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1649 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 17:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 17:56:12 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 20 17:56:12 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.03000, Best ask: 129.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 129.03000, 24 hour volume: 70337.07523935, 24 hour low: 115.00000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.05068
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Apr 20 18:11:17 <deyyo>	;;next
Apr 20 18:11:18 <gribble>	expecting a test of 120 | resistance: 127-128 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 20 2013, 21:51 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 20 minutes and 16 seconds ago
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Apr 20 18:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.41990909 = 0.8398 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 18:43:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1649 BTC [+]
Apr 20 18:43:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.165 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 18:44:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.17 = 15.21 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 19:35:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00070502 = 9.976 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 19:44:54 <KRS1>	Hmm.
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Apr 20 19:48:39 <jago25_98>	I'm searching for an arbitridge fund
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Apr 20 19:49:29 <KRS1>	;;ticker
Apr 20 19:49:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.50000, Best ask: 127.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.39999, Last trade: 127.90000, 24 hour volume: 74164.32533376, 24 hour low: 115.00000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.98498
Apr 20 19:49:45 <KRS1>	;;bids 126
Apr 20 19:49:47 <gribble>	There are currently 353.63209 bitcoins demanded at or over 126.0 USD, worth 44633.6111698 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0058 seconds
Apr 20 19:49:54 <KRS1>	;;offers 128
Apr 20 19:49:54 <gribble>	Error: "offers" is not a valid command.
Apr 20 19:50:54 <copumpkin>	;asks 128
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Apr 20 19:54:44 <KRS1>	;;ticker
Apr 20 19:54:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.99000, Best ask: 127.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 126.99000, 24 hour volume: 74259.82458626, 24 hour low: 115.00000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 124.00372
Apr 20 19:54:47 <KRS1>	thanks
Apr 20 20:02:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.0033 = 0.1155 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 20:03:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 96 @ 0.00325 = 0.312 BTC [-]
Apr 20 20:03:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00325 BTC [-]
Apr 20 20:03:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 21 @ 0.00324 = 0.068 BTC [-]
Apr 20 20:03:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 87 @ 0.00323 = 0.281 BTC [-]
Apr 20 20:03:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2540 @ 0.00322 = 8.1788 BTC [-]
Apr 20 20:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.28749999 = 4.8875 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:04:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00317 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 20:11:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0056 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:14:24 <kakobrekla>	sup
Apr 20 20:17:10 <Namworld>	hey
Apr 20 20:17:27 <kakobrekla>	so, whats new
Apr 20 20:20:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:20:49 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 20 20:20:49 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours, 38 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 20 20:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2875 = 0.575 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3083 @ 0.00070502 = 2.1736 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:23:16 <bitesaaak>	;;bids 0
Apr 20 20:23:19 <gribble>	There are currently 61643024 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20167456.6952 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0123 seconds
Apr 20 20:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:25:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [-]
Apr 20 20:25:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.003 BTC [-]
Apr 20 20:26:51 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla tell me about russia
Apr 20 20:26:52 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 20 20:27:15 <kakobrekla>	i cant do that
Apr 20 20:27:19 <kakobrekla>	i can tell you about somalia tho
Apr 20 20:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:29:45 <thestringpuller>	oh wow BFL is about to ship...
Apr 20 20:29:48 <thestringpuller>	http://codinginmysleep.com/bfl-jalapeno-unboxing-and-demo/
Apr 20 20:29:50 <thestringpuller>	the fuck?
Apr 20 20:32:06 <kakobrekla>	yes, idiots.
Apr 20 20:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.429 = 0.858 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:33:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.43498998 = 2.1749 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:33:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.43498999 = 1.305 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:33:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 30 @ 0.43499 = 13.0497 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:33:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.435 = 5.22 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:33:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.443 = 3.987 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:33:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.444333 = 1.333 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:33:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 45 @ 0.444333 = 19.995 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:33:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4443333 = 2.666 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:33:12 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.4444 = 22.22 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:33:13 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 35 @ 0.4445555 = 15.5594 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:35:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4445555 = 1.3337 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.44469999 = 5.7811 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:35:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4447 = 1.3341 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:35:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.44899999 = 8.98 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:35:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.449 = 4.49 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:35:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.45 = 4.95 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:35:27 <guruvan>	om nom nom
Apr 20 20:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.45 = 1.8 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:36:43 <kakobrekla>	this coding in my sleep guy
Apr 20 20:36:48 <kakobrekla>	retarded
Apr 20 20:38:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6067 @ 0.00070502 = 4.2774 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:38:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9666 @ 0.00070732 = 6.837 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:39:30 <inhies>	kakobrekla: i hate how sterotypical he looks
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Apr 20 20:43:34 <mod6>	lol
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Apr 20 20:49:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00394 BTC [+]
Apr 20 20:49:35 <kakobrekla>	im not even talking about his looks
Apr 20 20:49:39 <kakobrekla>	dont care much for that
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Apr 20 20:49:58 <kakobrekla>	but i opened 3 articles and they were all below any level
Apr 20 20:53:52 <TomServo>	are you just mad that he won't fix your computer?
Apr 20 20:56:25 <kakobrekla>	im sorry?
Apr 20 20:56:41 <TomServo>	the silly t-shirt, bad joke
Apr 20 20:56:47 <TomServo>	so is this the first bfl in the wild then?
Apr 20 20:58:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00394 BTC [+]
Apr 20 21:02:53 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 20 21:02:57 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 232331 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1524 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9204567.98654 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.56591
Apr 20 21:05:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.449 BTC [+]
Apr 20 21:05:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.449 = 2.694 BTC [+]
Apr 20 21:06:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19999 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 21:39:47 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 20 21:39:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.52000, Best ask: 126.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 126.52000, 24 hour volume: 71380.30563688, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 125.13336
Apr 20 21:41:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 21:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	heh. so a database link fluked.
Apr 20 21:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	 in between [20-Apr-2013 23:25:23 and [20-Apr-2013 23:25:39 i have 119k lines of errorlog.
Apr 20 21:56:30 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Apr 20 21:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	10k calls a second.
Apr 20 21:56:55 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 20 21:57:01 <kakobrekla>	sick
Apr 20 21:57:47 <mircea_popescu>	crazy
Apr 20 21:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 20 22:06:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11776 @ 0.00070073 = 8.2518 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell dom__ kakobrekla wrote it from scratch
Apr 20 22:07:44 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 20 22:07:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is because he can't read code so he has to write it instead. just like bitcoindev.
Apr 20 22:13:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4325 @ 0.00070732 = 3.0592 BTC [+]
Apr 20 22:13:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071283 = 3.5642 BTC [+]
Apr 20 22:13:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00071348 = 2.1404 BTC [+]
Apr 20 22:13:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1775 @ 0.0007139 = 1.2672 BTC [+]
Apr 20 22:14:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.19999 = 7.1999 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:14:27 <KRS1>	thats how a lot of folks learn to code heh
Apr 20 22:14:36 <mircea_popescu>	hehe.
Apr 20 22:16:21 <imTorim>	If you want some free bitcoins are are good at coming up names for a website, please PM me.
Apr 20 22:21:26 <mircea_popescu>	imTorim shoot.
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Apr 20 22:32:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071368 = 7.1368 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:32:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10544 @ 0.0007139 = 7.5274 BTC [+]
Apr 20 22:32:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1106 @ 0.00071499 = 0.7908 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 22:33:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.177 = 1.062 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:34:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.176 = 1.056 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:34:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.175 = 0.35 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 22:50:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Apr 20 22:54:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10601 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:55:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.106 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:55:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.105 = 8.84 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:55:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10201 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:55:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.100999 = 15.414 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:55:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:56:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Apr 20 22:59:18 <taub>	pretty quiet in here
Apr 20 22:59:58 <truffles>	rich ppl tend to lead boring lives no?
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Apr 20 23:01:17 <Namworld>	So... are people in assets like that UP UP UP mass in speculation subforum or pricetalk/analysis channels?
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Apr 20 23:02:14 <truffles>	if up means bigger ego's..
Apr 20 23:03:35 <Namworld>	No, it means the crowd saying how Bitcoins are about to skyrocket
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Apr 20 23:04:18 <truffles>	;;bids 165
Apr 20 23:04:20 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 165.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0053 seconds
Apr 20 23:04:56 <truffles>	isnt skyrocketing to me...
Apr 20 23:06:01 <truffles>	im more of the spectator though
Apr 20 23:07:05 <Namworld>	It is not... but there's a large crowd thinking it is
Apr 20 23:07:20 <truffles>	where
Apr 20 23:07:23 <Namworld>	Apparently 266 -> 55 is a "correction"
Apr 20 23:07:32 <truffles>	lol
Apr 20 23:07:44 <Namworld>	#bitcoin-pricetalk & #bitcoin-analysis
Apr 20 23:07:57 <Namworld>	I'm one of the rare bear out there
Apr 20 23:08:00 <truffles>	oh specific channels
Apr 20 23:08:12 <truffles>	id go off topic so fast i should stay away
Apr 20 23:08:32 <Namworld>	There's still a large crowd believing it's going to skyrocket pretty soon.
Apr 20 23:08:42 <truffles>	analysis and pricetalk should merge
Apr 20 23:08:46 <Namworld>	Although the mentality seems to be dying off.
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Apr 20 23:11:31 <taub>	the uptrend momentum is kinda dying out yea
Apr 20 23:12:55 <truffles>	i think its funny how bitcoin is modeled exactly like other markets
Apr 20 23:13:15 <Namworld>	the news/search trends for Bitcoins are diminishing too.
Apr 20 23:13:26 <Namworld>	I think those were crucial to upkeep the price
Apr 20 23:13:37 <taub>	why wouldn't it truffles
Apr 20 23:13:56 <Namworld>	Now that the crash occured and BTC hasn't recovered, the media have other stuff to look about.
Apr 20 23:14:02 <truffles>	its supposed to be different and revolutionary
Apr 20 23:14:16 <truffles>	imo
Apr 20 23:14:22 <taub>	not that different though
Apr 20 23:14:30 <taub>	still has to exist in reality
Apr 20 23:14:36 <taub>	with supply and demand
Apr 20 23:14:55 <truffles>	doesnt have to exist exactly like faulty structures..
Apr 20 23:15:15 <taub>	why faulty?
Apr 20 23:15:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.080301 BTC [-]
Apr 20 23:15:58 <truffles>	dont have the desired answer for that
Apr 20 23:16:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.07062 BTC [-]
Apr 20 23:16:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.07061 BTC [-]
Apr 20 23:16:15 <taub>	well i'm just trying to understand your complaint
Apr 20 23:16:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.0706 BTC [-]
Apr 20 23:16:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.0705 = 13.9165 BTC [-]
Apr 20 23:16:28 <taub>	don't you want to have the value of bitcoin measured in dollars?
Apr 20 23:16:39 <truffles>	not a complaint an observation
Apr 20 23:16:48 <truffles>	me? no
Apr 20 23:17:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.075 = 2.15 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:17:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0705 = 2.141 BTC [-]
Apr 20 23:18:19 <taub>	http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~lharris/ABSTRACT/Zerosum.htm this is pretty good and enlightening regarding financial markets
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Apr 20 23:18:53 <truffles>	i dont even get current financial markets let alone bitcoin
Apr 20 23:19:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.056 = 3.168 BTC [-]
Apr 20 23:19:38 <taub>	well people buy and sell, not much to get :D
Apr 20 23:19:59 <truffles>	seems a bit more goes on than that
Apr 20 23:20:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.034 BTC [-]
Apr 20 23:21:21 <truffles>	i havent even gone through game theory yet
Apr 20 23:21:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.033 BTC [-]
Apr 20 23:21:32 <truffles>	i dont like this papers premise though
Apr 20 23:21:51 <truffles>	nor date
Apr 20 23:22:05 <taub>	markets dont change
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Apr 20 23:22:14 <taub>	the fundamentals don't anyway
Apr 20 23:22:34 <taub>	you odn't have to understand game theory really
Apr 20 23:23:02 <taub>	you do know how the exchange works right? bids and offers and when they intersect there is a price
Apr 20 23:23:05 <taub>	er, trade
Apr 20 23:23:22 <truffles>	not really
Apr 20 23:23:30 <taub>	:O
Apr 20 23:23:32 <truffles>	my knowledge of finance very limited
Apr 20 23:23:46 <taub>	okay, check this out http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
Apr 20 23:23:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.033 BTC [-]
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Apr 20 23:24:13 <taub>	see the Buying and Selling side? and the Size and Bid/Ask prices etc
Apr 20 23:24:28 <taub>	the size at a Bid price means someone wants to buy that many bitcoin at that price
Apr 20 23:24:36 <taub>	the size at ask smeone wants to sell that many at that price
Apr 20 23:24:43 <truffles>	maybe very limited isnt the right word
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Apr 20 23:24:47 <truffles>	but not that great
Apr 20 23:25:19 <taub>	okay, well if you want i can maybe teach you a bit
Apr 20 23:25:21 <truffles>	technical analysis hmmn
Apr 20 23:25:24 <taub>	if you want to learn
Apr 20 23:25:32 <truffles>	im always willing to learn
Apr 20 23:25:35 <truffles>	what do u have to gain
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Apr 20 23:25:49 <taub>	fun
Apr 20 23:25:57 <truffles>	how
Apr 20 23:26:15 <taub>	i just want you to see how exchanges work :D
Apr 20 23:26:26 <truffles>	so u can argue the point more hehe
Apr 20 23:27:06 <truffles>	i cant say im a fast learner
Apr 20 23:27:13 <taub>	so how does prices happen?
Apr 20 23:27:18 <taub>	do prices happen*
Apr 20 23:27:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1498 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:27:59 <taub>	two people have to agree on a price, then they can make a transaction right
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Apr 20 23:28:13 <taub>	the order book of an exchange just holds all the prices anyone wants to trade right now
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Apr 20 23:28:51 <taub>	you can see lots of people wanting to buy at 120 for example, with a bid size of 1.8k
Apr 20 23:29:16 <taub>	but nobody wants to sell that low right now, lowest seller is the one who has the lowest ask price right now
Apr 20 23:29:41 <truffles>	let me sink this in a sec
Apr 20 23:30:46 <taub>	i'm grouping price by 0.5 btw
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Apr 20 23:31:48 <taub>	so there isn't anything modeled here, all that happens is a bunch of people either putting in buy or sell orders, and waiting for someone to sell/buy at that price
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Apr 20 23:32:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071444 = 7.1444 BTC [-]
Apr 20 23:32:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1648 @ 0.00071499 = 1.1783 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:32:43 <taub>	or they buy and sell to an existing order directly of course
Apr 20 23:32:48 <truffles>	this would be easy for me if there was a key for page
Apr 20 23:32:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000715 = 1.43 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:32:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21727 @ 0.000715 = 15.5348 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:33:05 <truffles>	i dont see 120 anywhere
Apr 20 23:33:24 <taub>	oh go controls -> rows: 500, and group by price 0.5
Apr 20 23:33:48 <taub>	well if you group it you don't need that many rows
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Apr 20 23:34:00 <truffles>	rows?
Apr 20 23:34:25 <taub>	on the bitcoinity display, you can change them in the settings to the top right
Apr 20 23:34:30 <truffles>	oh rows to display?
Apr 20 23:34:31 <taub>	not bitcoinity, clark moody my bad
Apr 20 23:34:32 <taub>	yes
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Apr 20 23:35:48 <truffles>	128 seems to be most common
Apr 20 23:37:01 <taub>	that's where bid and ask are meeting right now, so that's where all the trading happens
Apr 20 23:37:18 <taub>	you cant really sell below the highest bid, or buy above teh lowest ask
Apr 20 23:37:21 <truffles>	how can u tell 120 is popular
Apr 20 23:37:46 *	BitFlip is now known as BitFlip|Office
Apr 20 23:38:01 *	BitFlip|Office is now known as BitflipCo
Apr 20 23:38:08 <taub>	look at the size next to it
Apr 20 23:38:37 <truffles>	under buy?
Apr 20 23:38:42 <taub>	yes
Apr 20 23:39:06 <truffles>	on the graph?
Apr 20 23:39:15 <taub>	no :|
Apr 20 23:39:37 <truffles>	size under buying i see 118 123
Apr 20 23:40:06 <truffles>	the sum
Apr 20 23:40:42 <truffles>	ok 120 at size 4
Apr 20 23:40:55 <taub>	yea group by price
Apr 20 23:41:06 <taub>	in the controls, and set it to 0.5
Apr 20 23:41:50 <taub>	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6911896/cm.png
Apr 20 23:41:53 <truffles>	i have that checkmarkered
Apr 20 23:42:17 <truffles>	lol
Apr 20 23:42:31 <truffles>	i have issues with charts all the time
Apr 20 23:43:19 <taub>	yea sometimes you have to uncheck it to activate it, bug on clark moody
Apr 20 23:43:54 <truffles>	that seemed like something cool to know, what number most people want
Apr 20 23:44:13 <taub>	yea but doesn't mean it will get there
Apr 20 23:44:20 <taub>	to get down to 120 it woudl take...
Apr 20 23:44:24 <taub>	;;bids 120
Apr 20 23:44:24 <gribble>	There are currently 6424.4451 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 788827.704893 USD in total. | Data vintage: 103.7638 seconds
Apr 20 23:44:41 <taub>	that many coins being sold first, at least
Apr 20 23:45:17 <taub>	i was just using it to illustrate a point, i want you to understand just how the mechanics of the exchange and the limit order book work
Apr 20 23:45:48 <truffles>	umk
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Apr 20 23:46:00 <taub>	and pretty much every exchange runs on that kinda limit book
Apr 20 23:46:24 <taub>	and it's just natrual for bitcoin to be traded in the same manner
Apr 20 23:47:07 <truffles>	how do i get my graph to not have these weird boxes on it
Apr 20 23:47:11 <truffles>	i clicked something..
Apr 20 23:47:50 <taub>	those are candlesticks
Apr 20 23:48:15 *	BitflipCo is now known as Bitflip-office
Apr 20 23:48:20 <truffles>	how to remove
Apr 20 23:48:22 *	Bitflip-office is now known as Bitflip-Office
Apr 20 23:48:38 <truffles>	this page lags like crazy
Apr 20 23:48:55 <taub>	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candlestick_chart
Apr 20 23:48:58 <taub>	you dont remove it :D
Apr 20 23:49:09 <truffles>	i want the lines back
Apr 20 23:49:19 <taub>	oh that you mean
Apr 20 23:49:31 <taub>	click "show EMA's"
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Apr 20 23:50:37 <truffles>	still doesnt look like initial
Apr 20 23:50:44 <taub>	i dont nkow
Apr 20 23:52:17 <truffles>	i think the size of the candle expanded
Apr 20 23:52:40 <taub>	mousewheel on it
Apr 20 23:53:04 <truffles>	right got it back
Apr 20 23:53:31 <truffles>	so is that everything?
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Apr 20 23:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:56:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.49 = 0.98 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:56:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.495 = 1.485 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:56:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.495 = 3.465 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:56:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.496 = 2.976 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:56:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4969 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:56:10 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.49691 = 4.9691 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:56:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4972222 = 3.9778 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:56:11 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.4973 = 5.4703 BTC [+]
Apr 20 23:57:21 <taub>	yea
Apr 20 23:57:30 <truffles>	well that was a really short lesson thanks
Apr 20 23:57:39 <taub>	i know lol
Apr 20 23:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4973 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 00:04:05 <truffles>	my head is buzzing with things to ask..
Apr 21 00:04:12 <taub>	well just ask
Apr 21 00:04:37 <truffles>	i have trouble formulating them in the way i want
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Apr 21 00:08:49 <truffles>	im gonna have to let it buzz around, and get back to u some other time
Apr 21 00:09:04 <taub>	kk
Apr 21 00:09:42 <truffles>	so ure saying that something like yahoo charts are similar?
Apr 21 00:10:21 <taub>	yea
Apr 21 00:10:42 <taub>	that's not what i'm saying
Apr 21 00:11:05 <taub>	but it is similar. yahoo shows you the prices something traded at
Apr 21 00:11:12 <taub>	it doesn't show you teh full orderbook though
Apr 21 00:11:35 <taub>	in real markets it usually costs a subscription fee to see the full orderbook
Apr 21 00:11:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1499 = 2.2998 BTC [+]
Apr 21 00:11:58 <truffles>	bitcoin is new..
Apr 21 00:13:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.003859 = 0.0579 BTC [-]
Apr 21 00:15:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 35 @ 0.00386 = 0.1351 BTC [+]
Apr 21 00:15:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 65 @ 0.00388 = 0.2522 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 00:31:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1273 @ 0.000715 = 0.9102 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 01:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.47 = 2.94 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 01:06:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.00394 = 0.1379 BTC [+]
Apr 21 01:06:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3727 @ 0.00071614 = 2.6691 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 01:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [+]
Apr 21 01:34:46 <Diablo-D3>	http://codinginmysleep.com/bfl-jalapeno-unboxing-and-demo/
Apr 21 01:34:53 <Diablo-D3>	lol they finally shipped the scam?
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Apr 21 01:35:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00071683 = 12.2578 BTC [+]
Apr 21 01:35:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3806 @ 0.00071966 = 2.739 BTC [+]
Apr 21 01:35:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3526 @ 0.00072 = 2.5387 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 01:37:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00070727 = 8.0629 BTC [-]
Apr 21 01:37:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21509 @ 0.00070617 = 15.189 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 01:54:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.112 BTC [-]
Apr 21 01:54:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.11104 = 2.2221 BTC [-]
Apr 21 01:57:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00070237 = 1.8613 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 02:22:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37450 @ 0.00073326 = 27.4606 BTC [+]
Apr 21 02:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 10 @ 1.477 = 14.77 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 02:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.214 = 3.642 BTC [-]
Apr 21 02:46:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00072855 = 9.799 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 02:47:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00072855 = 4.262 BTC [-]
Apr 21 02:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25350 @ 0.00071815 = 18.2051 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 02:51:49 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkvaVTYrzGw
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Apr 21 02:51:59 <Chaang-Noi>	wrong chan sorry
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Apr 21 02:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [+]
Apr 21 03:03:15 <Chaang-Noi>	you kow what even #bitcoin is dead wtf?
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Apr 21 03:08:53 <leotreasure>	http://thegenesisblock.com/have-we-reached-a-turning-point-for-bitcoin-ddos/
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Apr 21 03:22:42 <tiberiusiv>	lol that chart is bullshit
Apr 21 03:23:50 <tiberiusiv>	how would the attacker know the price there buying at is a bottom lol
Apr 21 03:27:01 <leotreasure>	they could stop ddosing and wait for the market to start buying again - but yeah you're right there's no way to know for sure - unless attacker is extremely bullish and just wants cheap coins
Apr 21 03:27:10 <Chaang-Noi>	tiverslav!!!!
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Apr 21 03:32:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.01 = 0.13 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 03:39:34 <bitesaaak>	;;bids 0
Apr 21 03:39:36 <gribble>	There are currently 53876261 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20003713.4888 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0168 seconds
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Apr 21 03:43:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00070237 = 1.8613 BTC [-]
Apr 21 03:43:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16024 @ 0.00070073 = 11.2285 BTC [-]
Apr 21 03:43:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00069997 = 5.5648 BTC [-]
Apr 21 03:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18776 @ 0.000695 = 13.0493 BTC [-]
Apr 21 03:44:01 <truffles>	;;bids 160
Apr 21 03:44:03 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 160.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0056 seconds
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Apr 21 03:45:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1879 BTC [+]
Apr 21 03:49:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0039 BTC [-]
Apr 21 03:51:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00391 = 0.043 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 03:58:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000699 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 04:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.79 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 04:16:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.0007281 = 3.6769 BTC [+]
Apr 21 04:16:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00073559 = 3.678 BTC [+]
Apr 21 04:16:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8745 @ 0.00073891 = 6.4618 BTC [+]
Apr 21 04:17:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1009 BTC [+]
Apr 21 04:22:12 <kakobrekla>	mornin
Apr 21 04:24:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.449 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 04:35:16 <KRS1>	hey
Apr 21 04:35:25 <KRS1>	morning its 0435 am here
Apr 21 04:35:32 <KRS1>	wtf is going on with market price
Apr 21 04:35:36 <KRS1>	im seeing all red
Apr 21 04:36:38 <KRS1>	;;bids 120
Apr 21 04:36:38 <gribble>	There are currently 1176.9444 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 141233.329482 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.9865 seconds
Apr 21 04:36:43 <KRS1>	;;bids 115
Apr 21 04:36:44 <gribble>	There are currently 7775.491 bitcoins demanded at or over 115.0 USD, worth 913554.128646 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.7622 seconds
Apr 21 04:36:50 <KRS1>	;;bids 118
Apr 21 04:36:50 <gribble>	There are currently 3586.4903 bitcoins demanded at or over 118.0 USD, worth 427570.666128 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.5973 seconds
Apr 21 04:37:13 <KRS1>	;;asks 118
Apr 21 04:37:13 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 118.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 42.6491 seconds
Apr 21 04:37:20 <KRS1>	;;asks 120
Apr 21 04:37:20 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 120.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 49.5704 seconds
Apr 21 04:37:27 <KRS1>	;;asks 121
Apr 21 04:37:28 <gribble>	There are currently 20.487229 bitcoins offered at or under 121.0 USD, worth 2459.20644155 USD in total. | Data vintage: 56.7249 seconds
Apr 21 04:38:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.186 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 04:39:42 <Diablo-D3>	http://news.yahoo.com/czechs-were-not-chechens-132405023.html
Apr 21 04:39:45 *	Diablo-D3 just makes faces.
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Apr 21 04:55:21 <b0n1>	what a shame...
Apr 21 04:55:40 <tiberiusiv>	lol
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Apr 21 05:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3105 = 0.621 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 05:35:44 <KRS1>	there are Americans who can't even get our country's states and simple facts straight..
Apr 21 05:35:46 <KRS1>	sadly..
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Apr 21 05:45:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1829 BTC [-]
Apr 21 05:46:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.183 BTC [+]
Apr 21 05:46:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.1865 = 5.9325 BTC [+]
Apr 21 05:47:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1865 BTC [+]
Apr 21 05:48:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0125 = 0.05 BTC [-]
Apr 21 05:48:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01198 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 05:52:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.1865 = 3.5595 BTC [+]
Apr 21 05:54:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.0035 = 0.035 BTC [-]
Apr 21 05:55:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00331 = 0.0331 BTC [-]
Apr 21 05:55:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 43 @ 0.0033 = 0.1419 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 06:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14885 @ 0.00072545 = 10.7983 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 06:10:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 06:17:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.1009 = 0.8072 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 06:42:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2715 @ 0.00072545 = 1.9696 BTC [-]
Apr 21 06:42:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00071159 = 14.9434 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 06:56:07 <b0n1>	what is the reason for someone trading on localbitcoins.com ?
Apr 21 06:57:10 <b0n1>	for example there are people bidding for much more money than the actual value on mtgox, why are they doing this?
Apr 21 07:06:31 <ColdHardMetal>	cash in hand trumps cash in random account of some website in Japan.
Apr 21 07:17:27 <b0n1>	hm
Apr 21 07:17:47 <b0n1>	you mean they dont want to take the risk that mtgox is going down in the near future?
Apr 21 07:18:36 <ColdHardMetal>	that and having to send wires here and there incurring aditional fees and time. also untraceable.
Apr 21 07:18:39 <b0n1>	somehow this seems not reasonable enough for me. there are people buying sometimes for 15 USD more than they could have bought on mtgox
Apr 21 07:19:19 <b0n1>	also the fees cant be the case in this case
Apr 21 07:20:02 <b0n1>	the time for withdrawal on mtgox and for a quick bank wire are nearly the same right?
Apr 21 07:20:13 <b0n1>	stays only the untracability, but is this worth so much?
Apr 21 07:20:31 <ColdHardMetal>	I'm sure it is to some people.
Apr 21 07:21:06 <b0n1>	laundry?
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Apr 21 07:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 08:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7501 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 08:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.12132 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 08:29:07 <KRS1>	;;asks 86
Apr 21 08:29:11 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 86.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds
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Apr 21 08:34:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01497 BTC [+]
Apr 21 08:35:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01498 BTC [+]
Apr 21 08:39:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.7501 = 7.0004 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 09:05:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.135 BTC [-]
Apr 21 09:05:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.125001 = 4.5 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 09:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2700001 = 0.54 BTC [-]
Apr 21 09:14:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.27 = 0.81 BTC [-]
Apr 21 09:14:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2625 = 0.525 BTC [-]
Apr 21 09:14:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.26 = 0.78 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 09:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 09:24:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.125 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 09:24:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1132 BTC [-]
Apr 21 09:24:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1131 BTC [-]
Apr 21 09:25:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.112101 = 2.2242 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 09:36:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00072758 = 12.187 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 09:36:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4541 @ 0.00073057 = 3.3175 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 09:38:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009913 = 0.0496 BTC [-]
Apr 21 09:38:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.009912 = 0.0793 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 09:44:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3506 @ 0.00334089 = 11.7132 BTC [+]
Apr 21 09:47:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1009 @ 0.00073057 = 0.7371 BTC [+]
Apr 21 09:47:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8852 @ 0.00073529 = 6.5088 BTC [+]
Apr 21 09:47:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2339 @ 0.00073891 = 1.7283 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 10:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.214 = 4.856 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 10:47:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.09 = 8.72 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 11:05:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 11:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.435 = 0.87 BTC [-]
Apr 21 11:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4001 BTC [-]
Apr 21 11:13:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Apr 21 11:13:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3914 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 11:17:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.0007188 = 27.2425 BTC [-]
Apr 21 11:17:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15946 @ 0.0007173 = 11.4381 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 11:29:30 <FabianB>	http://www.nasdaq.com/article/legendary-vc-paul-graham-suspects-bitcoin-was-created-by-a-government-cm238901#.UXQDp3GVvVR
Apr 21 11:29:34 <FabianB>	lol
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Apr 21 11:41:41 <taub>	bs...
Apr 21 11:42:20 <taub>	gox is goxxd again
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Apr 21 11:52:39 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 21 11:52:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 124.89000, Best ask: 125.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 125.00000, 24 hour volume: 102398.14793661, 24 hour low: 117.86000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 125.27373
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Apr 21 12:13:41 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 21 12:13:41 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 52 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> imTorim shoot.
Apr 21 12:14:05 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell mircea_popescu looks like your protege smickles may be labeled a scammer
Apr 21 12:14:05 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Apr 21 12:18:28 <mircea_popescu>	ahh so what's new ?
Apr 21 12:18:52 <truffles>	 taub read that article u linked, maybe point me to something related to charts?
Apr 21 12:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8299 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 12:20:07 <truffles>	or article on bitcoin trading
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Apr 21 12:20:34 <truffles>	but ig uess u implied theyre similiar hmmm
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Apr 21 12:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.83 BTC [+]
Apr 21 12:22:45 <taub>	i wanted to show you the value of a market/exchange, that's all
Apr 21 12:22:53 <thestringpuller>	Look at HIM react to BFL news.
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Apr 21 12:23:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11308 @ 0.00071389 = 8.0727 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 12:29:25 <truffles>	taub it didnt really change my view on it
Apr 21 12:29:26 <bitesak>	;;goxlag
Apr 21 12:29:27 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 21 12:29:41 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 21 12:29:42 <gribble>	Error: Failure to retrieve order book data. Try again later.
Apr 21 12:31:12 <mircea_popescu>	worx
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Apr 21 12:32:33 <error4733>	goxed again
Apr 21 12:33:09 <error4733>	free fall http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
Apr 21 12:33:44 <thestringpuller>	oh what
Apr 21 12:33:45 <thestringpuller>	WTF
Apr 21 12:33:47 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 21 12:33:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 124.89000, Best ask: 125.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 125.00000, 24 hour volume: 102398.14793661, 24 hour low: 117.86000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 125.27373
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Apr 21 12:33:56 <thestringpuller>	error4733: is it about to free fall?
Apr 21 12:34:16 <error4733>	dummo
Apr 21 12:34:18 <error4733>	dunno
Apr 21 12:34:22 <thestringpuller>	oh shit it is on other exchanges
Apr 21 12:34:23 <thestringpuller>	FUCK
Apr 21 12:34:23 <thestringpuller>	SELL NOW
Apr 21 12:34:30 <error4733>	i look chart, smell bad
Apr 21 12:34:37 <error4733>	one week without drama is maybe too much asking pffff
Apr 21 12:34:42 <thestringpuller>	XD
Apr 21 12:34:49 <thestringpuller>	time to make some money :)
Apr 21 12:34:55 <error4733>	sold yesteday ;)
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Apr 21 12:35:34 <thestringpuller>	hopefully a billionaire doesn't come in and start buying up tons of coins
Apr 21 12:35:40 <thestringpuller>	buuuut
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Apr 21 12:36:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009913 BTC [+]
Apr 21 12:36:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009912 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:37:04 <bitesak>	;;next
Apr 21 12:37:04 <gribble>	expecting a test of 120 | resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 20 2013, 22:33 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 18 hours, 4 minutes, and 2 seconds ago
Apr 21 12:37:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00991 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:37:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.41551 = 2.0776 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:37:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009901 = 0.0495 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:37:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4155 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:38:50 <error4733>	;;eightball will we hit 50$ again ?
Apr 21 12:38:50 <gribble>	What are you asking me for?
Apr 21 12:39:11 <saulimus>	;;eightball why is error4733 asking gribble?
Apr 21 12:39:11 <gribble>	What are you asking me for?
Apr 21 12:39:12 <truffles>	haha
Apr 21 12:39:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:39:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.012001 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:39:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 83 @ 0.012 = 0.996 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:39:46 <Scrat>	lets calibrate it
Apr 21 12:39:50 <Scrat>	;;eightball am i a homosexual
Apr 21 12:39:50 <gribble>	The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
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Apr 21 12:40:11 <jurov>	Calibration successful?
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Apr 21 12:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol did he stick it in his mouth /
Apr 21 12:40:23 <saulimus>	;;eightball is this a question?
Apr 21 12:40:23 <gribble>	About as likely as pigs flying.
Apr 21 12:41:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:41:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.07 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:41:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.062001 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:41:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.05 = 8.4 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 12:41:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.411 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:42:17 <error4733>	;;eightball will we hit 50$ again ?
Apr 21 12:42:17 <gribble>	_I_ don't know.
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Apr 21 12:42:33 <error4733>	cristal clear ! thanks gribble
Apr 21 12:43:16 <error4733>	"why is error4733 asking gribble?" still better than BTC E trollbox
Apr 21 12:43:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0976 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:44:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0975 BTC [-]
Apr 21 12:44:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0954 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 12:46:06 <FabianB>	whyever ppl always panic when gox has issues
Apr 21 12:46:14 <thestringpuller>	;;eightball should I stick my dick in crazy?
Apr 21 12:46:14 <gribble>	The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
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Apr 21 12:53:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @ 2.5 = 5 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 12:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.45 = 2.25 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 13:00:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.135 BTC [+]
Apr 21 13:00:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13799 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 13:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9252 @ 0.00072101 = 6.6708 BTC [+]
Apr 21 13:06:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12648 @ 0.00072165 = 9.1274 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 13:10:01 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/326019965171953665
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Apr 21 13:11:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009998 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 13:15:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00219 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 13:22:35 <Mannnnn>	Man
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Apr 21 13:34:23 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 21 13:34:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 124.89000, Best ask: 125.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 125.00000, 24 hour volume: 102398.14793661, 24 hour low: 117.86000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 125.27373
Apr 21 13:34:36 <bitesak>	;;goxlag
Apr 21 13:34:36 <gribble>	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
Apr 21 13:34:38 <taub>	gox is down
Apr 21 13:34:44 <taub>	3 hours already
Apr 21 13:34:56 <taub>	 wonder how much business was lost
Apr 21 13:35:06 <taub>	how much money due to price movements that weren't able to be traded...
Apr 21 13:36:45 <punkman>	down to $100 on btce and stamp
Apr 21 13:36:57 <sharktopuz>	shit, didnt even realize it was down
Apr 21 13:37:13 <inhies>	omg mtgox is down?
Apr 21 13:37:16 *	inhies sells everything
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Apr 21 13:52:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13499 BTC [-]
Apr 21 13:54:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00071791 = 9.261 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 13:56:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.1985 = 1.191 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 14:02:07 <truffles>	the sky is falling
Apr 21 14:03:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009999 = 0.05 BTC [+]
Apr 21 14:03:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009999 = 0.05 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 14:05:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1015 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 14:07:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 14:09:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.36799 BTC [+]
Apr 21 14:09:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.36799 = 0.736 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 14:11:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1016 BTC [+]
Apr 21 14:12:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1017 BTC [+]
Apr 21 14:12:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.101736 = 0.7122 BTC [+]
Apr 21 14:12:49 <FabianB>	would be fun if gox stays down for days/weeks
Apr 21 14:13:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.135 BTC [+]
Apr 21 14:13:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.136 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 14:15:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1985 = 0.5955 BTC [+]
Apr 21 14:16:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 14:17:45 <jurov>	finally updated with real photo of mpoe-pr: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/
Apr 21 14:18:24 <jurov>	i started to thought, "mircea's boob job" is too good a joke to kill it
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Apr 21 14:24:29 <truffles>	looks ripe for bondage
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Apr 21 14:31:10 <mircea_popescu>	FabianB at least it'd show all the people going on about how mtgox matters just how off they arew.
Apr 21 14:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol
Apr 21 14:31:40 <FabianB>	yeah
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Apr 21 15:06:41 <truffles>	how did deadweasil weather the storm
Apr 21 15:08:28 <jurov>	by being dead, ofc
Apr 21 15:09:02 <truffles>	har har
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Apr 21 15:11:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.13699 = 3.411 BTC [+]
Apr 21 15:11:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.137 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 15:20:37 <deadweasel>	gsettings set com.canonical.notify-osd gravity 5
Apr 21 15:20:46 <deadweasel>	oh fuck me
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Apr 21 15:21:08 *	copumpkin fucks deadweasel 
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Apr 21 15:21:58 <deadweasel>	at least i got lucky wiht you today copumpkin ...  gox is makin' me crazy.
Apr 21 15:22:04 <copumpkin>	:)
Apr 21 15:22:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00317524 = 2.699 BTC [-]
Apr 21 15:22:24 <truffles>	i need to get lucky too...
Apr 21 15:22:24 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 21 15:22:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.75000, Best ask: 119.90000, Bid-ask spread: 2.15000, Last trade: 117.75000, 24 hour volume: 91170.92277480, 24 hour low: 117.86000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 125.55629
Apr 21 15:22:40 *	deadweasel fucks truffles 
Apr 21 15:22:45 <truffles>	lol
Apr 21 15:22:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 21 15:22:57 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 445.44542715 * [ticker --last]
Apr 21 15:22:57 <gribble>	53008.0058309
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Apr 21 15:23:02 <Diablo-D3>	still not enough
Apr 21 15:23:25 <kakobrekla>	for?
Apr 21 15:23:27 <truffles>	needs more romancing weasel
Apr 21 15:23:40 <kakobrekla>	to buy 1 diablo coin?
Apr 21 15:23:45 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: dmc 2.0
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Apr 21 15:23:58 <kakobrekla>	just make it 3.0
Apr 21 15:24:01 <kakobrekla>	or something
Apr 21 15:24:09 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: maybe after 2.0 succeeds
Apr 21 15:24:24 <kakobrekla>	aha by succeeds you mean fail?
Apr 21 15:24:29 <Scrat>	;;calc 445.44542715 * [ticker --last]
Apr 21 15:24:29 <gribble>	51295.7581534
Apr 21 15:24:31 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Apr 21 15:24:35 <Scrat>	you just lost 1.8k
Apr 21 15:24:36 <kakobrekla>	at some point you gotta give up right?
Apr 21 15:25:29 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: why should I give up?
Apr 21 15:25:35 <Diablo-D3>	things never get done when people give up
Apr 21 15:25:46 <kakobrekla>	cause at some point we will run out of coins
Apr 21 15:25:50 <kakobrekla>	for your project
Apr 21 15:25:53 <kakobrekla>	the whole 21 mio
Apr 21 15:26:16 <truffles>	never quit!
Apr 21 15:26:34 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: you imply Im going to hold them all at one time
Apr 21 15:26:52 <kakobrekla>	nah, losing priv key at some point prolly
Apr 21 15:26:59 <kakobrekla>	or just for cover.
Apr 21 15:27:10 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 100000000 / [ticker -- last]
Apr 21 15:27:18 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 100000000 / [ticker --last]
Apr 21 15:27:21 <gribble>	Error: There's really no reason why you should have underscores or brackets in your mathematical expression.  Please remove them.
Apr 21 15:27:26 <gribble>	884955.752212
Apr 21 15:27:35 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: not even close to all.
Apr 21 15:27:52 <kakobrekla>	close enough
Apr 21 15:28:48 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 21000000 / 884955
Apr 21 15:28:48 <gribble>	23.7300201705
Apr 21 15:29:01 <Diablo-D3>	a 1/24th != all
Apr 21 15:29:34 <kakobrekla>	ya but close enough
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Apr 21 15:34:34 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: and the news of DMC 2.0 coming close to success would drive prices up to $1000
Apr 21 15:35:11 <kakobrekla>	id rofl but im tierd so im just gonna lol mkay
Apr 21 15:36:07 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Apr 21 15:36:13 <kakobrekla>	the only explanation to this is
Apr 21 15:36:21 <kakobrekla>	you delete the majority of btc
Apr 21 15:36:28 <kakobrekla>	that i would understand
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Apr 21 15:39:05 *	jurov is starting IPO of project deathstar
Apr 21 15:39:18 *	truffles in
Apr 21 15:39:49 <Diablo-D3>	jurov: Im sorta doing that
Apr 21 15:39:53 <jurov>	;;calc 852000000000000000 / [ticker --last]
Apr 21 15:39:54 <gribble>	7099999408333382
Apr 21 15:39:56 <Diablo-D3>	except Im not using IBM drives
Apr 21 15:39:57 *	Diablo-D3 run
Apr 21 15:40:15 <jurov>	some sixtillion bitcoins
Apr 21 15:40:21 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Apr 21 15:40:57 <jurov>	anyone remembers terry pratchett's pyramids?
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Apr 21 15:41:24 <jurov>	they financed biggest pyramid by one coin
Apr 21 15:41:35 <jurov>	that got back and forward in time
Apr 21 15:41:45 <jurov>	we need dis
Apr 21 15:42:02 <truffles>	no i dont remember
Apr 21 15:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.297499 = 2.38 BTC [-]
Apr 21 15:42:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.297499 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 15:43:20 <jurov>	but here it bears a risk of blockchain loopimg into itself
Apr 21 15:43:30 <jurov>	*looping
Apr 21 15:43:39 <Diablo-D3>	I dunno, if I wait long enough
Apr 21 15:43:47 <Diablo-D3>	I'll have enough money to finance the whole thing myself
Apr 21 15:43:57 <truffles>	so ambitious
Apr 21 15:44:14 <truffles>	can u blog about it
Apr 21 15:44:28 <truffles>	sounds exciting
Apr 21 15:45:14 <truffles>	or memoirs after the fact?
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Apr 21 15:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2830 @ 0.00072165 = 2.0423 BTC [+]
Apr 21 15:47:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13820 @ 0.00072264 = 9.9869 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 15:57:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00302 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 15:58:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 97 @ 0.00301 = 0.292 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 16:03:32 <truffles>	this place is buzzin
Apr 21 16:03:47 <kakobrekla>	bzzzzzzzzzz
Apr 21 16:03:58 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
Apr 21 16:04:00 <kakobrekla>	this is funny
Apr 21 16:04:10 <truffles>	im betting its not
Apr 21 16:04:26 <truffles>	couldve won money
Apr 21 16:04:30 <kakobrekla>	gox goes down everything kneels down
Apr 21 16:04:36 <kakobrekla>	good buying spot
Apr 21 16:05:11 <deadweasel>	did btce realy dip below 100?
Apr 21 16:05:30 <pizzaman1337>	yep
Apr 21 16:05:40 <deadweasel>	did you get some?
Apr 21 16:06:06 <kakobrekla>	yep
Apr 21 16:06:10 <kakobrekla>	at 103 :)
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Apr 21 16:06:26 <deadweasel>	well done!
Apr 21 16:06:32 <kakobrekla>	i was lucky
Apr 21 16:06:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5880 @ 0.00072264 = 4.2491 BTC [+]
Apr 21 16:06:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00072933 = 3.4279 BTC [+]
Apr 21 16:06:54 <truffles>	when it goes to 10 ure goinng feel different
Apr 21 16:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7020 @ 0.00073 = 5.1246 BTC [+]
Apr 21 16:07:27 <deadweasel>	it may.  but not just yet.
Apr 21 16:08:20 <truffles>	all the bitcoiners must lose hope for it to go to 10 ?
Apr 21 16:08:53 <kakobrekla>	ill be buying on the way down then
Apr 21 16:09:29 <kakobrekla>	cant wait!
Apr 21 16:09:44 <truffles>	ure short on coins?
Apr 21 16:10:42 <kakobrekla>	nah, i wouldnt use bitfinex
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Apr 21 16:10:51 <kakobrekla>	and theres no other place to short it
Apr 21 16:11:03 <kakobrekla>	except maybe otc
Apr 21 16:12:09 <kakobrekla>	(thats the right answer to the wrong question :)
Apr 21 16:12:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC [-]
Apr 21 16:12:25 <truffles>	np i do it all the time
Apr 21 16:14:10 <KRS1>	I think im gonna start doing crack
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Apr 21 16:14:23 <kakobrekla>	kraken?
Apr 21 16:14:28 <truffles>	good luck
Apr 21 16:14:32 <kakobrekla>	yaaay skateboards!
Apr 21 16:14:36 <KRS1>	no..its mush better
Apr 21 16:14:43 <kakobrekla>	[courtesy of mrj]
Apr 21 16:14:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19989 BTC [+]
Apr 21 16:15:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 33 @ 0.19989 = 6.5964 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 16:16:11 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, upon seeing latest rant on trilema - so you're excluding bitcoin-central folks from any further discussion?
Apr 21 16:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Apr 21 16:16:26 <mircea_popescu>	it was a nonbinding rant.
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Apr 21 16:17:07 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 21 16:17:15 <mircea_popescu>	hehe
Apr 21 16:18:26 <jurov>	heh. don't forget french making complete mess in yurp after ww1, creating new cointries with funny names like czechoslovakia
Apr 21 16:18:31 <KRS1>	are there ever bitcoins lost or even stuck in transactions
Apr 21 16:18:48 <jurov>	only to abandon the setup completely 20 years later
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Apr 21 16:19:25 <kakobrekla>	KRS1 lose the private key - coins lost foreva
Apr 21 16:19:38 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 no.
Apr 21 16:20:13 <kakobrekla>	accually you could stick them into infinite tx loop
Apr 21 16:20:13 <KRS1>	theres probably a way to make keys quickly using quantum encryption somehow
Apr 21 16:20:45 <jurov>	KRS1 and if you send transaction that all nodes around reject, android wallet can be coaxed to do it
Apr 21 16:20:49 <KRS1>	i would probably use quantum properties of light..sorry just thinking out loud.
Apr 21 16:20:50 <kakobrekla>	what exactly are we discussing here
Apr 21 16:21:11 <truffles>	assets
Apr 21 16:21:20 <jurov>	cats
Apr 21 16:21:28 <kakobrekla>	dogs really
Apr 21 16:21:40 <KRS1>	wonder if you'd have the key before you set up the quantum mechanics to decypher it..that would be weird.
Apr 21 16:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	yes hello i have no idea what we're discussing.
Apr 21 16:22:04 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 21 16:22:13 <KRS1>	making private keys quickly
Apr 21 16:22:16 <kakobrekla>	memes mostly
Apr 21 16:22:18 <truffles>	i didnt think mp understood physics
Apr 21 16:22:38 <KRS1>	maybe truffles knows what I'm talking about?
Apr 21 16:22:47 <truffles>	maybe
Apr 21 16:23:16 <KRS1>	im no expert by any means but i know a thing or two
Apr 21 16:23:28 <jurov>	me too
Apr 21 16:23:31 <KRS1>	about the subject..it could be quite lucritive =D
Apr 21 16:24:00 <KRS1>	'own' the blockchain instantly haha
Apr 21 16:24:53 <jurov>	imho more likely than some quantum magic would be someone cracking /dev/random
Apr 21 16:25:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
Apr 21 16:25:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-]
Apr 21 16:25:44 <jurov>	maybe finding a way to simulate irregularities of network traffic or disk seeks or other stuff /dev/random is made from
Apr 21 16:25:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.1985 = 0.794 BTC [+]
Apr 21 16:26:33 <jurov>	and private keys off it
Apr 21 16:26:37 <mircea_popescu>	i think somebody quantum cracked my champagne bottle
Apr 21 16:27:03 <jurov>	what? drank it without opening?
Apr 21 16:27:26 <truffles>	it didnt exist to begin with
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Apr 21 16:27:59 <error4733>	!bids 0
Apr 21 16:28:09 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 21 16:28:11 <gribble>	There are currently 32701641 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19714724.4861 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0109 seconds
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Apr 21 16:28:40 <KRS1>	the last sentence of 'double spending' says it all: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_bitcoin_works
Apr 21 16:29:13 <KRS1>	Using quantum mechanics you can most definatly gt the most computing power on the network
Apr 21 16:29:27 <KRS1>	then u can permanently controll which transactions appear in it
Apr 21 16:29:35 <kakobrekla>	start here http://jheusser.github.io/2013/02/03/satcoin.html
Apr 21 16:31:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.47 = 9.4 BTC [+]
Apr 21 16:31:16 <KRS1>	yes- good stuff..this still relies on computing power to figure out the answer..with quantum mechanics, an infinite number of answers would be instantly applied, possibly revealing the correct one
Apr 21 16:31:50 *	jurov gives krs1 infinite number of questions
Apr 21 16:32:11 <kakobrekla>	that's settled then.
Apr 21 16:32:22 <mircea_popescu>	be a sport, give him an infinite number of misstated questions
Apr 21 16:32:24 <mircea_popescu>	that should help
Apr 21 16:32:53 <jurov>	that's NaN questions then
Apr 21 16:32:54 <KRS1>	lol yeah just theorizing..a lot of smart folks in here figured i'd hear something good..and i wasn't let down haaha
Apr 21 16:33:05 <KRS1>	lol NaN
Apr 21 16:33:16 <KRS1>	doesnt fit right
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Apr 21 16:34:35 <jurov>	but really, brainwallets are being mined as we speak
Apr 21 16:35:11 <kakobrekla>	true dat
Apr 21 16:38:19 <dub>	wats up wit ozcoin
Apr 21 16:38:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41001 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 16:43:53 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/legendary-vc-paul-graham-suspects-bitcoin-was-created-by-a-government-cm238901#.UXRPWaKORUp
Apr 21 16:44:00 <thestringpuller>	have more fun with paul graham
Apr 21 16:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	heh noty.
Apr 21 16:44:25 <mircea_popescu>	when did he become legendary ?! i'm confused.
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Apr 21 16:53:54 <thestringpuller>	who became legendary?
Apr 21 16:53:55 <thestringpuller>	Satoshi?
Apr 21 16:55:10 <KRS1>	i think there may be some folks in this irc channel that will become legends
Apr 21 16:55:56 <thestringpuller>	unless they take us away in black helicopters first...
Apr 21 16:55:56 <mircea_popescu>	possibly.
Apr 21 16:55:58 <truffles>	in their minds
Apr 21 16:56:14 <tiberiusiv>	i already am a legend
Apr 21 16:56:15 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller paul graham. dude made and sold some sort of doohickey to yahoo back in 1995.
Apr 21 16:56:19 <mircea_popescu>	i fail to see the legend.
Apr 21 16:59:13 <thestringpuller>	the legend of ycombinator!
Apr 21 16:59:14 <thestringpuller>	JK
Apr 21 16:59:28 <thestringpuller>	I'm sad to say though, I've used AirBNB to throw loft parties.
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Apr 21 17:00:28 <truffles>	at least Graham was a good looking man
Apr 21 17:00:31 <mircea_popescu>	i can see that
Apr 21 17:00:47 <mircea_popescu>	still... legend is a ways off.
Apr 21 17:02:12 <thestringpuller>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg <- some of his stuff is neat...(or is it)?
Apr 21 17:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	wences :
Apr 21 17:02:17 <mircea_popescu>	;;market buy 20900
Apr 21 17:02:19 <gribble>	A market order to buy 20900 bitcoins right now would take 2764990.5722 USD and would take the last price up to 139.6900 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.2962 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Apr 21 17:02:37 <truffles>	thestringpuller i was just going to say, contradiction
Apr 21 17:02:41 <wences>	thank you!
Apr 21 17:02:51 <wences>	you don't forget anything, do you? :)
Apr 21 17:03:01 <mircea_popescu>	i have people halping me :D
Apr 21 17:03:40 <wences>	Maybe you ARE many people; some with a beard, some without...
Apr 21 17:04:00 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 21 17:04:36 <thestringpuller>	every 5 days
Apr 21 17:04:42 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla and mircea_popescu switch places
Apr 21 17:04:56 <kakobrekla>	wha?
Apr 21 17:04:59 <mircea_popescu>	wences incidentally, seems you're the most recognisable face of the bildercoin.
Apr 21 17:05:03 <truffles>	that explains things
Apr 21 17:05:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/#comment-92857
Apr 21 17:05:10 <mircea_popescu>	took less thna a day
Apr 21 17:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	(course mpoe-pr was recognised on sight but it's not really a fair comparison given the audience)
Apr 21 17:05:45 <truffles>	how can he not be a legend he help bring to me jtv
Apr 21 17:06:16 <wences>	hahahaha! You should not let people take such wild guesses anonymously
Apr 21 17:06:23 <wences>	make them show themselves  :)
Apr 21 17:06:26 <thestringpuller>	what's bildercoin...
Apr 21 17:06:30 <thestringpuller>	wait whaaaa
Apr 21 17:06:55 <truffles>	sounds like a gild..
Apr 21 17:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	hehe trilema has an old tradition in anonimity.
Apr 21 17:07:14 <wences>	:)
Apr 21 17:07:26 <truffles>	anonymity
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Apr 21 17:08:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu what are these pictures from? an expensive dinner?
Apr 21 17:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 21 17:09:23 <thestringpuller>	in romania?
Apr 21 17:09:24 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 21 17:09:30 <maximian>	the second guy on the left looks a bit like evoorhees http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/image.jpeg
Apr 21 17:09:45 <kakobrekla>	the first pic is called "the first supper"
Apr 21 17:09:59 <pizzaman1337>	and the second pic, "the last supper"?
Apr 21 17:10:07 <kakobrekla>	nah
Apr 21 17:10:19 <thestringpuller>	so this was taken before MPEX?
Apr 21 17:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	maximian right on.
Apr 21 17:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller no, not before mpex. before yesterday.
Apr 21 17:10:31 <b0n1>	;;isdown mtgox.com
Apr 21 17:10:31 <gribble>	Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.
Apr 21 17:10:34 <maximian>	heh, no shit!
Apr 21 17:10:41 <thestringpuller>	MPOE-PR is the woman in the red dress
Apr 21 17:10:46 <b0n1>	;;
Apr 21 17:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	that's his lovely ex gf, michelle right next to him
Apr 21 17:10:52 <b0n1>	;; help
Apr 21 17:10:52 <gribble>	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
Apr 21 17:11:03 <maximian>	ok, so that explains where he's been
Apr 21 17:11:07 <b0n1>	!facts
Apr 21 17:11:09 <thestringpuller>	So these homies flew to romania to have dinner with you and smoke pot?
Apr 21 17:11:34 <mircea_popescu>	we can't afford pot yet.
Apr 21 17:11:38 <mircea_popescu>	maybe if bitcoin goes up moar.
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Apr 21 17:13:02 <b0n1>	^^
Apr 21 17:14:14 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37167887.jpg
Apr 21 17:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 21 17:17:02 <thestringpuller>	I forgot Europeans don't celebrate 4/20
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Apr 21 17:17:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11 = 3.33 BTC [+]
Apr 21 17:17:33 <tiberiusiv>	only losers do
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Apr 21 17:17:43 <tiberiusiv>	no surprise your celebrating thestringpuller
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Apr 21 17:18:07 <truffles>	you're
Apr 21 17:18:29 <thestringpuller>	ain't nobody got time for that tiberiusiv
Apr 21 17:18:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.091 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 17:18:43 <dub>	is that luke two to the left of mircea?
Apr 21 17:18:54 <taub>	so is there a point in investing in asics?
Apr 21 17:19:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09001 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:19:10 *	truffles gasps
Apr 21 17:19:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:19:15 <taub>	kinda contemplating it, but i think all it will do really is give you a prety small % roi
Apr 21 17:19:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08101 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:19:26 <mircea_popescu>	luke ?! no luke.
Apr 21 17:19:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08001 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:19:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:19:45 <thestringpuller>	lol mircea_popescu is like a cartoon: wears the same clothes in every picture
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Apr 21 17:19:55 <thestringpuller>	and always has his collar popped
Apr 21 17:20:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.079 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:20:30 <dub>	wait is mircea the almish one with the vest and beard or the popped collar white suit guy
Apr 21 17:20:35 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 21 17:20:37 <truffles>	so uncouth
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Apr 21 17:21:01 <thestringpuller>	no he's the one in the suit that he's always in
Apr 21 17:21:03 <dub>	I thought almish at first
Apr 21 17:21:05 <thestringpuller>	the white suit with the black shirt
Apr 21 17:21:08 <thestringpuller>	with the popped collar
Apr 21 17:21:33 <truffles>	taub did u make a decision yet?
Apr 21 17:21:41 <truffles>	i was shocked at the question
Apr 21 17:21:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08001 BTC [+]
Apr 21 17:21:51 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: y u pop yo collar?
Apr 21 17:22:17 <mircea_popescu>	tis not popped tho.
Apr 21 17:22:33 <dub>	dat onefixt two to the right
Apr 21 17:22:39 <dub>	amirite
Apr 21 17:22:48 <dub>	tux next to him?
Apr 21 17:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Apr 21 17:22:53 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 21 17:22:54 <gribble>	\*AWAY UNTIL April 28\*  resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 3 hours, 22 minutes, and 51 seconds ago
Apr 21 17:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	tux prolly too big to fit in the room.
Apr 21 17:23:25 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 0
Apr 21 17:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	we has limited space in romani.
Apr 21 17:23:26 <mircea_popescu>	a
Apr 21 17:23:43 <gribble>	There are currently 32712810 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19862579.1046 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1102.5192 seconds
Apr 21 17:23:51 <thestringpuller>	MPOE-PR knows how to dress...
Apr 21 17:23:52 <dub>	oh its in romania?
Apr 21 17:23:58 <thestringpuller>	Look at dem shoes
Apr 21 17:24:11 <truffles>	thats the 1st thing i noticed too
Apr 21 17:24:44 <truffles>	all she's missing is the whip
Apr 21 17:24:59 <thestringpuller>	so visual proof that MPOE-PR is a femme fatale
Apr 21 17:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.750001 = 3.5 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:25:12 <thestringpuller>	(check)
Apr 21 17:25:34 <dub>	I think youd need a closer inspection to be sure
Apr 21 17:25:58 <dub>	not sure if not trap
Apr 21 17:26:10 <thestringpuller>	I've been seduced by enough femme fatales in the film noire phase of my life to know a femme fatale when I see one
Apr 21 17:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	lol suspicious dub
Apr 21 17:28:22 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what did MPEX's ddos peak at?
Apr 21 17:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	most i've seen was ~100 gbit.
Apr 21 17:28:49 <thestringpuller>	daaaamn
Apr 21 17:28:51 <mircea_popescu>	actual peak possibly higher than that
Apr 21 17:28:54 <thestringpuller>	that's so much traffic...
Apr 21 17:29:09 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 21 17:29:36 <thestringpuller>	mtgox was hit with about 77
Apr 21 17:31:27 <Scrat>	http://www.microguy.net/images/staff.jpg
Apr 21 17:31:33 <Scrat>	hit by gojirra
Apr 21 17:32:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1989 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 17:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	what's gojira ?
Apr 21 17:33:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009998 = 0.1 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:34:24 <Scrat>	gohiraaaa
Apr 21 17:34:25 <b0n1>	;;goxlag
Apr 21 17:34:25 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.102353 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00220910306944 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 21 17:36:28 <thestringpuller>	GOOOOOJIRRRRAAAAAAA
Apr 21 17:36:40 <thestringpuller>	It's how japanese people say Godzilla
Apr 21 17:36:42 <thestringpuller>	GOJIRAAA
Apr 21 17:37:18 <truffles>	omg
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Apr 21 17:38:52 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 21 17:38:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.46307, Best ask: 123.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.53693, Last trade: 123.00000, 24 hour volume: 112146.25165570, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.37855
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Apr 21 17:42:22 <mircea_popescu>	oic
Apr 21 17:44:30 <kakobrekla>	this ripple name... seems to attract many scams? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JIJ9gemxxD8
Apr 21 17:44:43 <kakobrekla>	s/name/word
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Apr 21 17:47:27 <Namworld>	Hmm... anyone would like to take on some BTC-BOND? Someone wants to redeem and I don't feel like buying at these prices...
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Apr 21 17:51:39 <Namworld>	Guess I'll just have to
Apr 21 17:51:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.000643 = 0.1286 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:51:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000642 = 0.077 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:51:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 734 @ 0.000642 = 0.4712 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:51:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.000641 = 0.3205 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:51:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.00061 = 0.0305 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:51:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1475 @ 0.00061 = 0.8998 BTC [-]
Apr 21 17:52:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 155 @ 0.000597 = 0.0925 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 17:57:14 <truffles>	finally some bitcoin drama tonight when all else fails
Apr 21 17:57:25 <kakobrekla>	where?
Apr 21 17:57:36 <truffles>	otc
Apr 21 17:58:42 <truffles>	too many ppl chatting..
Apr 21 17:58:55 <truffles>	except in here
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Apr 21 17:59:24 <kakobrekla>	silence is golden
Apr 21 17:59:32 <truffles>	not in chatrooms
Apr 21 17:59:42 <truffles>	its deafening
Apr 21 17:59:55 <kakobrekla>	go to otc then
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Apr 21 18:00:07 <truffles>	cant keep up
Apr 21 18:00:14 <kakobrekla>	switch in between
Apr 21 18:00:15 <truffles>	sleepy but not tired
Apr 21 18:00:42 <truffles>	i cant decide what to do!
Apr 21 18:01:21 <truffles>	tv gaming bed (other) other other
Apr 21 18:03:00 <truffles>	music!
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Apr 21 18:04:26 <truffles>	kakobrekla how do u feel about bruno mars?
Apr 21 18:05:06 <kakobrekla>	i feel like i dont know him
Apr 21 18:05:38 <truffles>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-fA-gBCkj0
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Apr 21 18:06:48 <kakobrekla>	elevator music
Apr 21 18:06:55 <truffles>	hurt
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Apr 21 18:08:22 <truffles>	he could do better lyrically but i enjoy his vocals
Apr 21 18:08:28 <ThickAsThieves>	Bruno Mars is the bastard child of Michael Jackson and Elvis
Apr 21 18:08:52 <truffles>	his performances are really nice
Apr 21 18:09:05 <ThickAsThieves>	he creeps me out
Apr 21 18:09:12 <ThickAsThieves>	but yes, he has a nice voice
Apr 21 18:09:34 <truffles>	he is a good looking guy
Apr 21 18:09:38 <truffles>	not creepy at all
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Apr 21 18:10:00 <ThickAsThieves>	to each his own
Apr 21 18:10:07 <truffles>	lol
Apr 21 18:10:58 <truffles>	that cant be the only song of his i enjoy omg
Apr 21 18:11:19 <Scrat>	elevator music you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwHjRIlCnU
Apr 21 18:11:19 <truffles>	<kakobrekla> elevator music >>> sigh
Apr 21 18:12:38 <truffles>	not handsome at all
Apr 21 18:13:33 <truffles>	what is this
Apr 21 18:13:45 <truffles>	wish i could mute the vocals
Apr 21 18:14:13 <Scrat>	skip to 2:15
Apr 21 18:14:34 <truffles>	i made it through
Apr 21 18:14:37 <truffles>	no thanks to u
Apr 21 18:14:47 <truffles>	why even put that in there though for 20 secs
Apr 21 18:15:02 <truffles>	and again..
Apr 21 18:15:26 <Scrat>	well thats what my elevator is playing
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Apr 21 18:15:30 <truffles>	this makes me want to listen to 3doors down
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Apr 21 18:16:13 <truffles>	"here without youuuuu"
Apr 21 18:18:29 <truffles>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_YodiJO6k not elevator music
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Apr 21 18:19:46 <dub>	guys I've got some bad news
Apr 21 18:19:49 <truffles>	sigh song makes one think of youth that is nevermore
Apr 21 18:19:51 <dub>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lcrfg5np8o
Apr 21 18:20:03 <dub>	we're going to have to wrap this human species thing up and start over
Apr 21 18:20:25 <truffles>	lmao
Apr 21 18:20:54 <truffles>	we're just running out of ideas
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Apr 21 18:23:37 <truffles>	what was "Californication" about anyways
Apr 21 18:25:08 <dub>	thats actually pretty good
Apr 21 18:25:33 <truffles>	yea
Apr 21 18:25:45 <truffles>	the show?
Apr 21 18:25:51 <dub>	Mulder swapping aliens for scotch and young bitches
Apr 21 18:26:19 <truffles>	not x-files chilli peppers!
Apr 21 18:26:28 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Apr 21 18:26:29 <thestringpuller>	OMG
Apr 21 18:26:30 <thestringpuller>	OMG
Apr 21 18:27:12 <thestringpuller>	Californication is about a writer Hank Moody (Dchovny) who has perpetual writers block.
Apr 21 18:27:18 <thestringpuller>	He proceeds to sleep with everyone.
Apr 21 18:27:39 <thestringpuller>	Californication is pretty much the story of mircea_popescu, if he were a writer with writer's block...
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Apr 21 18:27:54 <truffles>	"save the world from Californication" ..
Apr 21 18:28:21 <truffles>	much to be desired with mp's writings
Apr 21 18:29:02 <thestringpuller>	what's the mean "much to be desired"
Apr 21 18:29:05 <thestringpuller>	he keeps you wanting more?
Apr 21 18:29:12 <truffles>	lacking
Apr 21 18:29:27 <truffles>	in poor quality or taste
Apr 21 18:34:05 <thestringpuller>	lol would you prefer Paul Graham?
Apr 21 18:34:58 <truffles>	he seems like an insightful person sure
Apr 21 18:35:24 <truffles>	jtv is great
Apr 21 18:36:31 <thestringpuller>	justin tv?
Apr 21 18:36:35 <truffles>	yea
Apr 21 18:36:42 <Namworld>	Anyone holding GSDPT on BTCT.co?
Apr 21 18:37:03 <thestringpuller>	justin tv is ycombinator?
Apr 21 18:37:19 <truffles>	helped to fund according to wiki
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Apr 21 18:41:04 <Namworld>	I guess not
Apr 21 18:41:24 <truffles>	i have no idea what that is
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Apr 21 18:43:55 <kakobrekla>	https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=527
Apr 21 18:44:00 <kakobrekla>	So you all know, one thing we are noticing is that we keep losing the connection to the MTGox source data feed about every 20 minutes, however we automatically reconnect. This past hour we also noticed 2 interruptions lasting 3 minutes.
Apr 21 18:44:07 <kakobrekla>	We see that the MTGox data feed is not entirely reliable and also from an engineering perspective, its technical implementation really is very confusing and not well structured.
Apr 21 18:44:15 <kakobrekla>	They are using what is called a web socket and then on top of that Socket I/O . This is unnecessary and the method by which this is implemented is not technically correct.
Apr 21 18:44:28 <kakobrekla>	#win
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Apr 21 18:44:55 <truffles>	back to the drawing board on that
Apr 21 18:45:04 *	truffles shakes head
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Apr 21 18:45:19 <kakobrekla>	and they will support btc-e and bitstamp and the local bar toilet hole
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Apr 21 18:45:35 <kakobrekla>	retarded.
Apr 21 18:46:25 <truffles>	when u have too much money what does it matter eh
Apr 21 18:48:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.11 = 11.1 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 18:50:13 <error4733>	" Trading through with MTGox through Sierra Chart is not yet supported. This should be supported within the next 30 days. "
Apr 21 18:50:28 <Namworld>	Damn just bought some BTC
Apr 21 18:50:30 <error4733>	Ho Ho Ho, chrismas before time
Apr 21 18:50:38 <Namworld>	I don't like buying at those prices
Apr 21 18:50:49 <Namworld>	But some wanted to redeem some BTC-BOND
Apr 21 18:50:55 <kakobrekla>	i wouldnt worry error4733, its gonna suck as much as gox sucks
Apr 21 18:51:01 <truffles>	;;bids 100
Apr 21 18:51:03 <gribble>	There are currently 27835.495 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2997236.30925 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0092 seconds
Apr 21 18:51:24 <truffles>	oh thought it went below ...
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Apr 21 18:51:52 <error4733>	its was
Apr 21 18:52:06 <truffles>	going in wrong direction
Apr 21 18:52:22 <error4733>	 <error4733> !bids 101
Apr 21 18:52:23 <error4733>	[22:20] <gribble> There are currently 20546.789 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 2270526.2342 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0054 seconds
Apr 21 18:52:31 <error4733>	3h ago
Apr 21 18:52:40 <error4733>	;;bids 101
Apr 21 18:52:40 <gribble>	There are currently 21613.226 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 2374477.9266 USD in total. | Data vintage: 96.8428 seconds
Apr 21 18:53:01 <error4733>	nvm...
Apr 21 18:53:04 <dub>	apparently you can pay gox for a more realtimey socket, SC should do that
Apr 21 18:53:35 <kakobrekla>	they offer that?
Apr 21 18:53:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00365 = 0.073 BTC [-]
Apr 21 18:53:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.0036 = 0.144 BTC [-]
Apr 21 18:54:04 <dub>	according to neofutur they do
Apr 21 18:54:10 <kakobrekla>	uhh?
Apr 21 18:55:00 <dub>	he is some form of gox lackey/shill
Apr 21 18:55:34 <truffles>	we're all shills for someone or something
Apr 21 18:56:11 <dub>	erryday im shillin
Apr 21 18:56:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00219 BTC [+]
Apr 21 18:56:19 <truffles>	lol
Apr 21 18:56:34 <dub>	shillin villain style
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Apr 21 18:58:20 <truffles>	shills do great work for crap pay
Apr 21 18:58:36 <truffles>	how much do shills make though?
Apr 21 19:01:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]
Apr 21 19:03:04 <Namworld>	Really no GSDPT holder?
Apr 21 19:04:06 <Namworld>	I have a good offer...
Apr 21 19:04:26 <truffles>	i guess everyone in here knows what that is
Apr 21 19:04:37 <truffles>	(google helped thanks though)
Apr 21 19:05:11 <ThickAsThieves>	Nam what are oy asking about GSDPT?
Apr 21 19:05:15 <ThickAsThieves>	you*
Apr 21 19:05:20 <ThickAsThieves>	i think i have some
Apr 21 19:06:22 <error4733>	take that MtGox : The streaming data feed from MTGox is not working at the moment. Their server is just not streaming any data. They really have serious reliability and efficiency problems. From what we can see, there whole architecture was not designed for efficiency. Obviously they will know best, but what we see is that one of their main problems is not so much that they have overwhelmed systems, more that they d
Apr 21 19:06:23 <error4733>	o not have efficient data delivery.
Apr 21 19:06:23 <Namworld>	I want to sell into those bids. I'll offer a 5% bonus for trade with S.DICE-PT units
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Apr 21 19:07:25 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm wrong
Apr 21 19:07:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i have none
Apr 21 19:07:29 <ThickAsThieves>	forgot i sold
Apr 21 19:07:33 <ThickAsThieves>	been away for a few days
Apr 21 19:07:43 <Namworld>	So like 4000 GSDPT units for 4200 S.DICE-PT if anyone else is interested
Apr 21 19:08:19 <ThickAsThieves>	i asked DT about moving some of my BF shares and he never got back to me
Apr 21 19:08:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.0022 BTC [+]
Apr 21 19:08:29 <Namworld>	He was here earlier
Apr 21 19:08:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 28 @ 0.00221 = 0.0619 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 19:09:27 <dub>	scamtrading
Apr 21 19:09:32 <dub>	lmiot
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Apr 21 19:09:59 <Namworld>	lmiot?
Apr 21 19:10:34 <dub>	hao aboot 1337 shares of usagicorp for 300btc of pirate debt
Apr 21 19:10:43 <truffles>	laughing my ingenius other tush
Apr 21 19:10:52 <dub>	let me in on that
Apr 21 19:11:13 <truffles>	my guess
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Apr 21 19:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol
Apr 21 19:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	these haters not understanding socket i/o over web socket geniuz.
Apr 21 19:12:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.00221 = 0.0044 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 19:13:44 <Namworld>	Eh, whatever, dub
Apr 21 19:14:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136658053566.jpg bwahaha who did this ?
Apr 21 19:15:36 <kakobrekla>	lolz
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Apr 21 19:28:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]
Apr 21 19:28:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.085001 = 5.425 BTC [-]
Apr 21 19:28:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.085 = 3.255 BTC [-]
Apr 21 19:29:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08002 BTC [-]
Apr 21 19:29:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-]
Apr 21 19:33:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003581 = 0.1791 BTC [-]
Apr 21 19:33:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.00351 = 0.2106 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 19:43:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.06 BTC [-]
Apr 21 19:43:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.055 BTC [-]
Apr 21 19:52:36 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: Dude Capital One sabotaged Bitfloor
Apr 21 19:52:50 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 21 19:53:04 <thestringpuller>	We process for them and I'm looking at documents...
Apr 21 19:53:14 <thestringpuller>	holy shit this is soooo fucked up
Apr 21 19:54:37 <error4733>	stop teasing
Apr 21 19:55:33 <thestringpuller>	I don't know who is on the wrong, but they claim "Undue risk"
Apr 21 19:56:28 <thestringpuller>	I wonder who will be next :P
Apr 21 19:56:46 <thestringpuller>	Looks like exchanges are better off storing the fiat under matresses...
Apr 21 19:58:59 <kakobrekla>	nah, they should buy bitcoin with that fiat
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Apr 21 20:04:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.00351 = 0.0281 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:04:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1768 @ 0.0035 = 6.188 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 20:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82999989 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 20:19:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 243 @ 0.0035 = 0.8505 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:19:19 <mircea_popescu>	this is an interesting concept. what risk is due ?
Apr 21 20:19:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.05 = 5.25 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:19:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.0461 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:19:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.033 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:19:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.025 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:19:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.025 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:20:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.011 = 2.022 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:20:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.01 = 5.05 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:20:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.001 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:20:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:20:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-]
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Apr 21 20:26:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00069635 = 8.8436 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:27:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 550 @ 0.0014 = 0.77 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:30:04 <kakobrekla>	well you could mitigate at least a portion of it
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Apr 21 20:31:24 <kakobrekla>	(ab)use mpex bot and then you are as weak as the weakest link
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Apr 21 20:31:37 <kakobrekla>	i mean no, the strongest
Apr 21 20:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.82999989 = 3.66 BTC [+]
Apr 21 20:32:12 <kakobrekla>	is it not so?
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Apr 21 20:39:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+]
Apr 21 20:43:41 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu Capital One hate's risk, their loyalty platform runs in cobol because they are terrified of change...
Apr 21 20:44:21 <thestringpuller>	that's what happens when you're "Too big to fail" the smallest amount of risk is "unsettling"
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Apr 21 20:44:45 <thestringpuller>	but it's kind of bullshit since most banks to unethical/illicit things anyways...
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Apr 21 20:49:14 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=182685.0
Apr 21 20:49:26 <kakobrekla>	>The company’s trading algorithms currently run on electronic exchanges such as Nasdaq, BATS, EDGE, NYSE, and BTC-E.
Apr 21 20:49:54 <kakobrekla>	i think he is 21 days late.
Apr 21 20:50:17 <kakobrekla>	or 20, depends what your local time is.
Apr 21 20:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4855555 = 4.37 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 20:59:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00069717 = 7.7386 BTC [+]
Apr 21 20:59:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6224 @ 0.000695 = 4.3257 BTC [-]
Apr 21 20:59:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1926 @ 0.00069452 = 1.3376 BTC [-]
Apr 21 21:00:30 <dub>	thestringpuller: not suprising really, don't know about US but here there is legistlation covering banking technology
Apr 21 21:02:03 <dub>	e.g. if a bank causes losses due to technical fuckup people can get charged with a crime
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Apr 21 21:03:33 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol
Apr 21 21:04:12 <mircea_popescu>	Shares: 100,000 Price: .20 bitcoins, but tbd by free market
Apr 21 21:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	imo the best part.
Apr 21 21:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker btctc ASICMINER-PT
Apr 21 21:04:39 <assbot>	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 1 / 1.09486 / 1.2 (182 shares, 199.3 BTC),  7D: 0.79 / 1.08844 / 1.75 (1627 shares, 1770.9 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.82495 / 1.75 (8260 shares, 6814.1 BTC)
Apr 21 21:04:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+]
Apr 21 21:05:09 <mircea_popescu>	he's going to do 3x better than asicminer on the strength of having made a forum post.
Apr 21 21:06:28 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what is your opinion on asicminer?
Apr 21 21:06:40 <mircea_popescu>	bout the same as a month ago
Apr 21 21:06:50 <thestringpuller>	I never got the memo.
Apr 21 21:06:56 <thestringpuller>	CAUSE IT'S BEHIND A PAYWALL!
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Apr 21 21:07:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 21:08:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.1098 = 8.8784 BTC [+]
Apr 21 21:09:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 21:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	well...
Apr 21 21:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	i dont think i ever wrote about it on my blog
Apr 21 21:12:11 <mircea_popescu>	i think you just asked me the same q a month ago
Apr 21 21:12:21 <taub>	what is that picture of your family gathering about
Apr 21 21:12:28 <taub>	is MPOE-PR female now or not
Apr 21 21:12:33 <taub>	i'm foncused :(
Apr 21 21:13:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.01 = 2.02 BTC [-]
Apr 21 21:13:19 <mircea_popescu>	cool
Apr 21 21:15:16 <thestringpuller>	WINTER IS COMING
Apr 21 21:15:26 <thestringpuller>	Mark my words
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Apr 21 21:16:14 <mod6>	haha wat? it's been snowing here all month.
Apr 21 21:16:22 <mod6>	winter is still here.
Apr 21 21:16:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.05 = 10.5 BTC [+]
Apr 21 21:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	my rosemary bush is in bloom
Apr 21 21:17:01 <mircea_popescu>	you've not seen something like this, it looks like a lilac.
Apr 21 21:17:11 *	thestringpuller is watching game of thrones
Apr 21 21:17:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.41001 = 1.64 BTC [-]
Apr 21 21:17:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
Apr 21 21:17:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.19989 = 1.9989 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 21:18:10 <mod6>	we got like 7" of snow last week easy.
Apr 21 21:18:11 <bowjob>	http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/ele/3758263779.html
Apr 21 21:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.bitlc.net/ lol
Apr 21 21:18:13 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 21 21:18:31 <stslimited>	hello kakobrekla from bitcointalk suggested I come here
Apr 21 21:18:47 <stslimited>	regarding an upcoming IPO posting
Apr 21 21:18:52 <stslimited>	thread I made
Apr 21 21:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 21 21:19:15 <kakobrekla>	he did the right thing!
Apr 21 21:19:44 <stslimited>	great, conditioning in its finest
Apr 21 21:19:48 <dub>	mircea_popescu: tl;dr
Apr 21 21:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	Domestic Limited-Liability Company	
Apr 21 21:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	File Number: 	2012-000626131
Apr 21 21:19:52 <mircea_popescu>	Filing State: 	Wyoming (WY)		
Apr 21 21:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	Company Age: 	9 Months		
Apr 21 21:19:55 <mircea_popescu>	Principal Address: 		Po Box 20539
Apr 21 21:19:57 <mircea_popescu>	New York, NY 10001		
Apr 21 21:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	Mailing Address: 		Po Box 20539
Apr 21 21:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	New York, NY 10001
Apr 21 21:20:03 <mircea_popescu>	is that you ?
Apr 21 21:20:09 <stslimited>	yes, continued from Nevada
Apr 21 21:20:14 <stslimited>	so 2 years
Apr 21 21:20:28 <mircea_popescu>	are you that fuckwited in the head to imagine anyone in bitcoin gives two shits about your pointless llc ?
Apr 21 21:20:46 <stslimited>	elaborate?
Apr 21 21:20:53 <stslimited>	people are interested in high frequency trading
Apr 21 21:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	no. shut the fuck up.
Apr 21 21:21:00 <thestringpuller>	hahahaha
Apr 21 21:21:00 <stslimited>	go on
Apr 21 21:21:01 <mircea_popescu>	read here for six months or a year
Apr 21 21:21:04 <mircea_popescu>	get with the program
Apr 21 21:21:25 <mircea_popescu>	then maybe you ipo something for 500 or so coins.
Apr 21 21:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	maybe.
Apr 21 21:22:01 <stslimited>	you haven't told me anything about what the problem with the document was
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Apr 21 21:22:13 <mircea_popescu>	there is no document
Apr 21 21:22:17 <stslimited>	the OP
Apr 21 21:22:18 <stslimited>	the thread
Apr 21 21:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	just an ignorant idiot (you)
Apr 21 21:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	now stop talking to me before you go on my ignore
Apr 21 21:22:32 <mircea_popescu>	and do what you are told.
Apr 21 21:22:46 <thestringpuller>	lol wow this is the most upset I've seen mr. popescu
Apr 21 21:22:49 <thestringpuller>	good job stslimited
Apr 21 21:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	no but it's beyond outrage this shit.
Apr 21 21:23:17 <stslimited>	I mean, harr harr senior member of an incrowd picks on new user in their own channel
Apr 21 21:23:31 <stslimited>	woop de doo thats never happened on the internet
Apr 21 21:23:39 <mircea_popescu>	i mean asicminer trades 6k btc in a month on btct herpderp here's guy with a 20k btc plan.
Apr 21 21:23:49 <stslimited>	okay
Apr 21 21:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	he has no fucking idea what's what and we're all playing at internets.
Apr 21 21:24:00 <kakobrekla>	lmao
Apr 21 21:24:00 <mircea_popescu>	doth not work, this.
Apr 21 21:24:07 <stslimited>	oh, the number of shares was in bitcoins
Apr 21 21:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	x.x
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Apr 21 21:25:14 <stslimited>	why do you feel that an algorithmic trading fund is not structured as correctly as the mining share companies
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Apr 21 21:25:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+]
Apr 21 21:25:20 <stslimited>	this is what I came in here for
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Apr 21 21:26:45 <thestringpuller>	;;getatin stslimited
Apr 21 21:26:46 <gribble>	Error: "getatin" is not a valid command.
Apr 21 21:26:51 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating stslimited
Apr 21 21:26:51 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Apr 21 21:27:00 <thestringpuller>	okay lets start
Apr 21 21:27:02 <stslimited>	okay
Apr 21 21:27:04 <thestringpuller>	I'm a n00b
Apr 21 21:27:11 <thestringpuller>	And even I am in the OTC
Apr 21 21:27:12 <thestringpuller>	you are not
Apr 21 21:27:16 <thestringpuller>	why should I invest in you?
Apr 21 21:27:22 <thestringpuller>	how can I even trust you?
Apr 21 21:27:23 <stslimited>	the OTC? as in bitcoin-otc?
Apr 21 21:27:29 <thestringpuller>	yes...
Apr 21 21:27:37 <thestringpuller>	WoT so to speak
Apr 21 21:27:41 <thestringpuller>	(Web of Trust)
Apr 21 21:27:49 <stslimited>	okay what does that have to do with share companies, what does the web of trust on bitcoin-otc have to do with that
Apr 21 21:28:02 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: is he on your ignore yet?
Apr 21 21:28:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0056 BTC [+]
Apr 21 21:28:09 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 21 21:28:16 <dub>	thestringpuller: just because every hft/etf in bitcoin to date has been a thinly disguised robbery don't mean this guy aint legit
Apr 21 21:28:28 <thestringpuller>	sign me up!
Apr 21 21:28:33 <stslimited>	dub, I thought it was an original idea actually
Apr 21 21:28:33 <dub>	LMIOT
Apr 21 21:28:34 <mircea_popescu>	dub i thought you were with the tl;dr program
Apr 21 21:28:40 <stslimited>	can you show me the 'case studies'
Apr 21 21:28:54 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: what is that bitcoin drama timeline post you had?
Apr 21 21:29:04 <mircea_popescu>	ok i gotta try this
Apr 21 21:29:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;google bitcoin drama timeline post i had
Apr 21 21:29:12 <gribble>	BitCoin Drama Continues After Hours | Zero Hedge: <http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-10/bitcoin-drama-continues-after-hours>; The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/>; bitcoin posts on CNET - Cnet TV: <http://cnettv.cnet.com/8300-5_53-0.html?keyword=bitcoin>
Apr 21 21:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	pesky zh how dare they
Apr 21 21:29:28 <stslimited>	dub, thestringpuller, I just took one look at the bitcoin share company listings and saw they were ALL mining companies. I personally see a market
Apr 21 21:29:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00391 BTC [+]
Apr 21 21:29:41 <thestringpuller>	stslimited: read http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/
Apr 21 21:29:53 <stslimited>	but guys literally ever company/altcoin in bitcointalk gets this same sh*t test
Apr 21 21:29:54 <stslimited>	I'm here
Apr 21 21:29:56 <stslimited>	I want to talk
Apr 21 21:30:08 <dub>	stslimited: there probably is one, and certianly many operating in private, the problem as mircea_popescu is trying to elloquate is trust
Apr 21 21:30:22 <stslimited>	dub, what would you guys like to see
Apr 21 21:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Apr 21 21:30:50 <mircea_popescu>	the problem i am discussing is ignorance. this fuckwit proceeds to not even bother researching the field before "building" nonsense.
Apr 21 21:30:54 <dub>	stslimited: you really need to start small and earn it, there is no easy route
Apr 21 21:31:04 <thestringpuller>	^ exactly
Apr 21 21:31:10 <stslimited>	is mircea referring to "bitcoin" or "bitcoin-otc"
Apr 21 21:31:22 <mircea_popescu>	he has no fucking idea about anything whatsoever other than "o i saw this [uninformed] thing about bitcoin cause the price went up"
Apr 21 21:31:22 <thestringpuller>	what does it matter?
Apr 21 21:31:24 <stslimited>	State Trading Society has diverse cryptocurrency holdings
Apr 21 21:31:25 <dub>	stslimited: this is for the obvious reason that there is no way for anyone to recover bitcoins entrusted to you if you decide to be untrustworth
Apr 21 21:31:44 <dub>	*y
Apr 21 21:31:47 <thestringpuller>	stslimited: lets take a look at numbers
Apr 21 21:31:50 <thestringpuller>	For the actuarially inclined, the total losses to theft, fraud and stupidity plus anything in between amount to 1.296 million BTC.
Apr 21 21:32:07 <stslimited>	the company does mine, it does trade, and now I want to IPO one of the trading algorithms
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Apr 21 21:32:08 <thestringpuller>	Even if you have the best intentions, this world is ruthless.
Apr 21 21:32:13 <stslimited>	which I think is pretty novel, for an IPO
Apr 21 21:32:29 <thestringpuller>	So how would you not end up losing money?
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Apr 21 21:32:42 <thestringpuller>	even if not from directly trying to scam us, you maybe inept like many others before you
Apr 21 21:32:54 <thestringpuller>	then you are added the graveyard of dead companies that keeps piling up
Apr 21 21:32:55 <thestringpuller>	another body
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Apr 21 21:33:17 <stslimited>	thestringpuller people will have to trust the algorithm or the fund, they will see the NAV increase
Apr 21 21:33:33 <kakobrekla>	pirates nav increas was very nice
Apr 21 21:33:42 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHAHA
Apr 21 21:33:43 <stslimited>	kakobrekla, pirates?
Apr 21 21:33:47 <kakobrekla>	indeed
Apr 21 21:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla aussie_striker's is better. go with the found.
Apr 21 21:33:59 <thestringpuller>	that fact you don't know who pirate is raises grave concerns
Apr 21 21:34:14 <thestringpuller>	you are unwilling to educate yourself, and that is mircea_popescu's issue
Apr 21 21:34:45 <stslimited>	thestringpuller, seriously? bitcoin-otc is really not that relevant of a thing....
Apr 21 21:34:52 <thestringpuller>	are you kidding?
Apr 21 21:34:56 <stslimited>	I'm not
Apr 21 21:35:04 <thestringpuller>	there are millions upon millions of dollars done in trade in otc
Apr 21 21:35:13 <stslimited>	and I have considered trading there too
Apr 21 21:35:23 <stslimited>	but it isn't a necessary thing to complete trades
Apr 21 21:35:27 <thestringpuller>	the WoT is for bitcoin millionaires to quote MPOE-PR, the very people who's coin you are trying to solicity
Apr 21 21:35:30 <thestringpuller>	solicit*
Apr 21 21:35:43 <stslimited>	it isn't the defacto standard of being worthy to trade
Apr 21 21:35:56 <stslimited>	okay
Apr 21 21:35:59 <stslimited>	that is insightful
Apr 21 21:36:35 <stslimited>	these particular concerns are not what I see in the other IPO threads though
Apr 21 21:37:02 <stslimited>	I see even less information in some of the successful IPO's original posts
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Apr 21 21:37:15 <stslimited>	can we address that and why mine is different
Apr 21 21:37:20 <thestringpuller>	Yes, but take a look at Ziggap.
Apr 21 21:37:43 <thestringpuller>	Ziggap was in theory a competitor to Bitinstant, and it's IPO sold out in some like 3-5 hours
Apr 21 21:37:43 <dub>	theres no real reason to try to persuade us
Apr 21 21:37:59 <stslimited>	dub I'm not trying to persuade you.
Apr 21 21:38:02 <dub>	just do it and be prepared for flames
Apr 21 21:38:03 <stslimited>	lets continue
Apr 21 21:38:10 <dub>	and for only noobs to throw money at it
Apr 21 21:38:24 <thestringpuller>	Ziggap was ipo'ed by someone who has one of the highest WoT rating
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Apr 21 21:38:38 <thestringpuller>	yet it's price has plummeted below IPO levels just like facebook
Apr 21 21:38:48 <dub>	thats not a good example
Apr 21 21:38:57 <thestringpuller>	how are you so sure you won't encounter hurdles as you scale even if you have "a proven platform"
Apr 21 21:39:00 <kakobrekla>	thestringpuller, who had, not has.
Apr 21 21:39:04 <dub>	aethero's wot is made up of all teh micro loan muppets
Apr 21 21:39:11 <kakobrekla>	true
Apr 21 21:39:13 <dub>	he screams scammer
Apr 21 21:39:13 <thestringpuller>	yes, kakobrekla had* my mistake
Apr 21 21:39:22 <kakobrekla>	dat also
Apr 21 21:39:26 <thestringpuller>	^ - yup
Apr 21 21:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	dub how did the entire aethero thing play out btw ?
Apr 21 21:39:46 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: it's still in progress
Apr 21 21:39:49 <dub>	dunno, I wouldnt touch it with yours
Apr 21 21:39:52 <thestringpuller>	"to be continued"
Apr 21 21:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	i c
Apr 21 21:40:26 <thestringpuller>	the website is super down
Apr 21 21:40:39 <mircea_popescu>	last i heard the website was donw and deprived was smelling blood.
Apr 21 21:40:52 <thestringpuller>	I think they went bankrupt.
Apr 21 21:40:59 <thestringpuller>	Someone gamed them, using the chargebacks.
Apr 21 21:41:03 <stslimited>	thestringpuller the algorithm will be trading cryptocurrencies as well as more liquid markets
Apr 21 21:41:05 <thestringpuller>	So they had to shut down.
Apr 21 21:41:25 <stslimited>	"Scaling" at these amounts is not really a different tier
Apr 21 21:41:29 <stslimited>	it is negligible
Apr 21 21:41:44 <thestringpuller>	but it is. how long have you been operating, and what are your profit margins?
Apr 21 21:41:54 <thestringpuller>	how come this is the first ANYONE in this channel has heard of you?
Apr 21 21:43:24 <stslimited>	thestringpuller, well State Trading Society has been trading on the bitcoin exchanges and hasn't had a need to use the bitcoin forums or bitcoin irc channels for any reason before today
Apr 21 21:43:51 <dub>	stslimited: some guidelines for you: 1) stop trying to hype your deal here, anyone with coin has already tuned out 2) hype notwithstanding; obtain an IRC client, stay in this channel and contribute 3) show us your id, shit you have done before, show up IRL at bitcoiny things
Apr 21 21:44:03 <stslimited>	bitcointalk's securities subforum seems to be the place to mention bitcoin share companies, so that necessity of even having an account only materialized today
Apr 21 21:44:24 <dub>	stslimited: 4) do your hft thing, you'll probably get some bites, be prepared to start small and 5) don't steal peoples shit
Apr 21 21:44:33 <stslimited>	dub thanks
Apr 21 21:44:47 <thestringpuller>	stslimited: don't try to go from gangst to godfather in a night
Apr 21 21:44:52 <thestringpuller>	gangsta*
Apr 21 21:44:55 <mircea_popescu>	since when is dub a contributing member with like positive shit and everything ?!
Apr 21 21:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	how long have i been asleep ?!
Apr 21 21:45:10 <thestringpuller>	Hahahaha. Since tonight it seems. :D
Apr 21 21:45:19 <dub>	sometimes I forget to troll
Apr 21 21:45:19 <thestringpuller>	dub is full of surprises
Apr 21 21:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	lol k
Apr 21 21:45:56 <thestringpuller>	6) don't piss off mircea_popescu
Apr 21 21:46:03 <dub>	or maybe I'm just trolling you guys be encouraging the latest scam
Apr 21 21:46:12 <mircea_popescu>	the moral of the story being that the more of an asshole i am, the more inclined even the hardcorest trolls are to halp.
Apr 21 21:47:04 <thestringpuller>	oooh a popescu meme appears
Apr 21 21:47:15 <thestringpuller>	picture of popescu frowning: "I'm real tired of your shit"
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Apr 21 21:48:51 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_july2009.jpg
Apr 21 21:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	there's your base
Apr 21 21:49:04 <stslimited>	okay so the moral of this story is that my username isn't in the web of trust on bitcoin-otc ?
Apr 21 21:50:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11126 @ 0.00069525 = 7.7354 BTC [+]
Apr 21 21:50:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00069789 = 7.3976 BTC [+]
Apr 21 21:50:23 <thestringpuller>	you smokin a blunt mircea_popescu ?
Apr 21 21:50:36 <thestringpuller>	lololol
Apr 21 21:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	i can not say for legal considerations i can not disclose.
Apr 21 21:50:48 <dub>	stslimited: the moral is you are completely unknown and asking people to let you hold their irreversably transferred internet coins
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Apr 21 21:54:57 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller anyway the deprived theory iirc was that the entire ipo was simply to float living expenses and that was all.
Apr 21 21:55:39 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like a simplified bdt
Apr 21 21:55:56 <thestringpuller>	we all saw how BDT went...
Apr 21 21:56:21 <kakobrekla>	i called that one here.
Apr 21 21:56:26 <kakobrekla>	for the record.
Apr 21 21:56:31 <dub>	lol
Apr 21 21:56:33 <kakobrekla>	:p
Apr 21 21:56:35 <thestringpuller>	i wonder how many ipo's ended up being pocketed...
Apr 21 21:56:45 <dub>	I'm still waiting for credit on calling usagi
Apr 21 21:57:09 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla yeah
Apr 21 21:58:03 <thestringpuller>	usagi is just inept
Apr 21 21:58:33 <stslimited>	thestringpuller aren't all IPOs like 2 months old in bitcoin land
Apr 21 21:58:33 <dub>	s/ept/sane
Apr 21 21:58:40 <thestringpuller>	HAH
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Apr 21 21:58:52 <thestringpuller>	stslimited: uh not S.DICE and S.MPOE
Apr 21 21:58:59 <thestringpuller>	those are pretty old
Apr 21 21:59:02 <stslimited>	what percentage of the user base could pass the sh*t test here
Apr 21 21:59:04 <thestringpuller>	S.BBET is pretty young
Apr 21 21:59:09 <mircea_popescu>	dub you can't get credit. would you like a debit ?
Apr 21 21:59:41 <thestringpuller>	ZigGap stands on top as the most trusted method for purchasing BTC, and plans to offer the widest array of methods to buy Bitcoin. <<< lol
Apr 21 21:59:53 <dub>	just enroll me in the next tranch of $MEME.Z
Apr 21 21:59:59 <thestringpuller>	XD
Apr 21 22:00:06 <kakobrekla>	;;rate dub 1 credit on calling usagi
Apr 21 22:00:08 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user dub has changed from 1 to 1.
Apr 21 22:00:18 <dub>	bewm
Apr 21 22:00:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.096 BTC [-]
Apr 21 22:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	so wtf was this bitlc thing in the end ?
Apr 21 22:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	i never could figure it out and now it's gone.
Apr 21 22:00:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.091 = 0.455 BTC [-]
Apr 21 22:01:46 <thestringpuller>	dub: were you the one who made the "Usagi ftw" bet?
Apr 21 22:02:00 <thestringpuller>	"Usagi will have an asset listed on MPEX by April 1st 2013"
Apr 21 22:02:02 <kakobrekla>	rg suddenly has time to troll in -otc
Apr 21 22:02:02 <thestringpuller>	or something like that
Apr 21 22:02:11 <kakobrekla>	thats a twist
Apr 21 22:02:29 <kakobrekla>	or maybe has been going for a while
Apr 21 22:02:31 <dub>	thestringpuller: negative
Apr 21 22:02:41 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Apr 21 22:03:14 <dub>	the only bet I made was 'DMC will never do anything every and eveyone will lose money' it got rejected :(
Apr 21 22:03:29 <dub>	ever*
Apr 21 22:03:46 <dub>	oh wait I did th empex will get hacked one too
Apr 21 22:03:48 <mircea_popescu>	https://www.bitlc.net/assets/system_infrastructure_full.jpg this makes so little sense it boggles my mind
Apr 21 22:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	mpex was hacked ?
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Apr 21 22:05:19 <dub>	no when you offered reddit a bounty to hack it
Apr 21 22:07:04 <mircea_popescu>	o yeah
Apr 21 22:07:16 <orkaa>	mircea_popescu, i love the 'no internet access' server on ec2
Apr 21 22:07:35 <mircea_popescu>	orkaa also what use does a pool server have of a dedicated db server ?
Apr 21 22:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	maybe i don't understand mining but... mempool right ? it's in ram.
Apr 21 22:08:17 <dub>	gotta store balances and shit
Apr 21 22:09:10 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: this is really just a clever new way of promoting "VM escape exploit" research.
Apr 21 22:09:34 <mircea_popescu>	spell that out for me
Apr 21 22:10:10 <asciilifeform>	sometimes, exploits are discovered that let you break out of a VM (like the onces on Amazon's EC2) and take over the physical hardware
Apr 21 22:10:24 <asciilifeform>	from that point, you can snoop/modify the customer VMs, for whatever purpose you like.
Apr 21 22:10:41 <asciilifeform>	*ones
Apr 21 22:10:49 <mircea_popescu>	so he's holding btcs in there to encourage others to try and break into his amazon vm ?
Apr 21 22:11:06 <asciilifeform>	maybe not deliberately, but what difference does it make
Apr 21 22:11:31 <mircea_popescu>	such a conspiracist you are
Apr 21 22:12:19 <asciilifeform>	he even helpfully tells us that we need to exploit EC2/Ireland.
Apr 21 22:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform you are aware this is a dead service right ?
Apr 21 22:14:09 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: well... now I am.
Apr 21 22:14:26 <asciilifeform>	I don't really keep up with btcdrama in real time
Apr 21 22:14:54 <dub>	this is why I defended linode, erryone crying about linode security, nobody pointing finger at the tards running hot wallet on shared servers
Apr 21 22:15:01 <mircea_popescu>	cjeck out the root, it's on the amusing side of lol.
Apr 21 22:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	dub at the time we were poor.
Apr 21 22:15:45 <thestringpuller>	The mean stream media (msm) seem to be hyping bitcoin lately and I can't figure why.
Apr 21 22:15:48 <thestringpuller>	MSM is presenting bitcoin in a much better light than it use to. It is being featured on WSJ, BBC, ft, CNN, CNBC, etc. These outfits are not known for featuring the real stories, or at least those that question the status quo. We constantly criticize the msm for its sycophantic propagandist reporting, but because they are featuring bitcoin we are cool with it.
Apr 21 22:15:54 <thestringpuller>	Something smells rotten in Denmark.The mean stream media (msm) seem to be hyping bitcoin lately and I can't figure why.
Apr 21 22:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	the idea that "only dedicated for bitcoin" is a lot harder to push on a 1.5 dollar btc
Apr 21 22:15:57 <thestringpuller>	MSM is presenting bitcoin in a much better light than it use to. It is being featured on WSJ, BBC, ft, CNN, CNBC, etc. These outfits are not known for featuring the real stories, or at least those that question the status quo. We constantly criticize the msm for its sycophantic propagandist reporting, but because they are featuring bitcoin we are cool with it.
Apr 21 22:16:49 <thestringpuller>	oops
Apr 21 22:16:53 <thestringpuller>	WOW LAG
Apr 21 22:17:17 <thestringpuller>	WHY PUTTY WHY DID YOU MAKE ME SPAM
Apr 21 22:17:18 <thestringpuller>	:(
Apr 21 22:17:25 <kakobrekla>	shit tyrone, get it together.
Apr 21 22:17:50 <asciilifeform>	thestringpuller: people with old-fashioned money and connections bought in. This much is clear as daylight at this point.
Apr 21 22:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	ya think ?!
Apr 21 22:20:09 <Namworld>	I'm not so sure about that
Apr 21 22:20:18 <Namworld>	The news seem to be dying
Apr 21 22:20:23 <Namworld>	Seems more like a fad
Apr 21 22:20:28 <Namworld>	Than anything
Apr 21 22:20:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181245.0;all quoted for bolded paragraph
Apr 21 22:20:43 <Namworld>	And with the peak and crash, now that it returned lower
Apr 21 22:20:48 <Namworld>	No longer that interesting
Apr 21 22:20:55 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 21 22:20:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.00001, Best ask: 121.53998, Bid-ask spread: 0.53997, Last trade: 121.00001, 24 hour volume: 98052.49947353, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 129.00000, 24 hour vwap: 120.94707
Apr 21 22:20:59 <asciilifeform>	re: the defunct EC2 wallet: I'd advise anyone against telling his web host that he is hosting a wallet on the latter's disks. Or, for that matter, letting it be known that a certain bank deposit box has paper coldwallets in it.
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Apr 21 22:21:06 <mircea_popescu>	seems pretty decent to me, 120.
Apr 21 22:21:17 <asciilifeform>	your hosting provider and bank manager might be saints, or they might not be.
Apr 21 22:21:40 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform im pretty sure it's impossible for bank manager to go into boxes.
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Apr 21 22:22:09 <asciilifeform>	however it is the police (or hypothetical Gold Confiscators (TM) ) get in
Apr 21 22:22:16 <asciilifeform>	locksmiths exist, etc
Apr 21 22:23:06 <asciilifeform>	pretty much everything upon this earth that is worth back-dooring, has been back-doored (esp. in the good old U.S.A.)
Apr 21 22:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	actually, the evolution of paper gold vs rthe real article has been fascinating past week
Apr 21 22:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	the premium is what, 30% by now ?
Apr 21 22:23:20 <Namworld>	Yeah, I just mean, about the media, seems like they moved to the next thing.
Apr 21 22:23:29 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld a good thing i say.
Apr 21 22:23:37 <Namworld>	BTC price is still decent. Seems a bit high tho
Apr 21 22:23:40 <mircea_popescu>	no bubble to see here, move on to shiny rocvks.
Apr 21 22:23:46 <Namworld>	Of course it's a good thing
Apr 21 22:23:58 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: AFAIK "allocated" paper has been pretty close to the price of physical
Apr 21 22:24:07 <Namworld>	That hype didn't do much good.
Apr 21 22:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform not lately.
Apr 21 22:24:23 <mircea_popescu>	paper has been dumped massively.
Apr 21 22:26:30 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: *allocated* paper. example: Bullionvault corp. new york branch quotes $1422 (buy; http://www.bullionvault.com/) Canadian mint: $1419. (http://www.apmex.com/Category/1158/1_oz_Gold_Bars_Only.aspx)
Apr 21 22:27:39 <asciilifeform>	one could debate whether allocated paper-gold is any less of a ripoff than the usual imaginary kind, but the fact remains.
Apr 21 22:29:34 <dub>	mircea_popescu: that thread is gold
Apr 21 22:29:53 <dub>	I like the cut of this pizza's gib
Apr 21 22:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform hm right you are
Apr 21 22:30:14 <asciilifeform>	I will describe a process for extracting paper wallets from a bank box, just so it doesn't surprise anyone when it actually happens:
Apr 21 22:30:38 <asciilifeform>	one day, a bomb threat is called into the bank
Apr 21 22:30:46 <asciilifeform>	police dogs search the place, find no bomb
Apr 21 22:30:57 <asciilifeform>	but the deposit box room is found to smell a little of marijuana
Apr 21 22:31:09 <asciilifeform>	the boxes are opened, the contents photographed.
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Apr 21 22:31:17 <asciilifeform>	and so forth.
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Apr 21 22:31:34 <kakobrekla>	start writing books or something
Apr 21 22:31:37 <kakobrekla>	that could work
Apr 21 22:31:54 <mircea_popescu>	containers aren't opened are they.
Apr 21 22:32:23 <asciilifeform>	depends. perhaps your envelope will smell especially strongly. (squirt bottle.)
Apr 21 22:32:33 <mircea_popescu>	dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173227.msg1907593#msg1907593 have more.
Apr 21 22:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform afaik this has not in fact happened,
Apr 21 22:33:02 <mircea_popescu>	ie you still need a court order and identified boxes tio have tghem opened.
Apr 21 22:33:10 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I didn't say it had already happened.
Apr 21 22:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	a a
Apr 21 22:33:45 <kakobrekla>	>Reported to police (they are really no help, so much for paying their salary, seems they've gotten fbi reports about bitcoins and don't really like them, started asking if I pay taxes on them...),
Apr 21 22:33:49 <kakobrekla>	O_O
Apr 21 22:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	well for that money if you can check out womenyou can probably have
Apr 21 22:33:53 <mircea_popescu>	oops
Apr 21 22:34:03 <asciilifeform>	they had door-to-door house searches in Boston last week, without any messy paperwork.
Apr 21 22:34:07 <mircea_popescu>	well for that money if you can check out women's parts through clothes you can probably check out printed paper through sheet metal
Apr 21 22:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform yeah. pretty outrageous stuff that.
Apr 21 22:34:59 <asciilifeform>	in any system, find the real weak point. anyone who can access the vault during off-hours and pause the camera recorder, can pick the locks at his leisure.
Apr 21 22:35:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.1 = 5.5 BTC [-]
Apr 21 22:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	banks aren't video rental stores.
Apr 21 22:36:24 <asciilifeform>	my point wasn't that this kind of scenario will become routine, but that it is unwise to tell people without a need-to-know exactly where your coldwallet physically lives.
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Apr 21 22:36:39 <dub>	whats that movie where some limeys steal royal noodz from a deposit box?
Apr 21 22:37:09 <mircea_popescu>	well for sure it's unwise to spread info wider than it needs to go.
Apr 21 22:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	dub one of the many dumbass things where that guy from pulp fiction tries to parlay his momentary fame into a career ?
Apr 21 22:37:43 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: from the standpoint of an owner or other person with unhindered physical access, a bank is exactly the same as a video store.
Apr 21 22:38:00 <mircea_popescu>	nobody has unhindered access tho.
Apr 21 22:38:34 <asciilifeform>	firemen. banks do occasionally burn. esp. if they need to.
Apr 21 22:39:48 <mircea_popescu>	ya, fire is a serious problem for paper wallets.
Apr 21 22:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	with or without all this complex discussion.
Apr 21 22:40:42 <asciilifeform>	which is why you store it in 35 places, and use Shamir's algorithm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_sharing)
Apr 21 22:41:13 <asciilifeform>	and no one but you should know of more than a few of them.
Apr 21 22:41:35 <Namworld>	So tell me mircea, are you short on BTC right now?
Apr 21 22:41:44 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld nah.
Apr 21 22:42:02 <Namworld>	I'm one of the few bears around in the "speculation" channels it seems.
Apr 21 22:42:30 <mircea_popescu>	you have to understand tho, none of the major players will even be net short for strategic reasons.
Apr 21 22:42:34 <mircea_popescu>	not if they have any sense anyway.
Apr 21 22:43:07 <Namworld>	I suppose
Apr 21 22:43:23 <Namworld>	Still
Apr 21 22:43:41 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=180663.0
Apr 21 22:44:12 <Namworld>	You've probably read a few news as we approached the peak. They were getting... crazy/unlikely. Quite the craze.
Apr 21 22:44:19 <Namworld>	I decided to go short
Apr 21 22:44:43 <Namworld>	I do not regret
Apr 21 22:44:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.1 = 5.5 BTC [-]
Apr 21 22:45:32 <mircea_popescu>	if you shorted over 200 you're well in the money now.
Apr 21 22:45:54 <Namworld>	I shorted what I had available at 230-250
Apr 21 22:46:09 <Namworld>	I'm quite sad I had so much placed into assets at that time
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Apr 21 22:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	um
Apr 21 22:47:35 <mircea_popescu>	whart do you mean ? shorting and selling are different concepts.
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Apr 21 22:48:24 <Namworld>	Yes, my bad.
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Apr 21 22:59:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 23:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.4845555 = 6.2992 BTC [-]
Apr 21 23:02:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.485 = 4.85 BTC [+]
Apr 21 23:02:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.4855555 = 6.3122 BTC [+]
Apr 21 23:02:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.487 = 2.435 BTC [+]
Apr 21 23:02:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.489 = 3.423 BTC [+]
Apr 21 23:02:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.4899 = 5.8788 BTC [+]
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Apr 21 23:49:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.41 = 1.64 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 00:12:53 <mod6>	;;ticker
Apr 22 00:12:54 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.46999, Best ask: 121.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.23000, Last trade: 121.46999, 24 hour volume: 99058.82498211, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 128.90000, 24 hour vwap: 120.81681
Apr 22 00:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.25123457 = 1.2562 BTC [-]
Apr 22 00:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.25123456 = 3.266 BTC [-]
Apr 22 00:16:08 <mod6>	$vwap ^OIX
Apr 22 00:16:10 <mpexbot>	mod6: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 88.3616141 high: 232.26557649 low: 24.03032819 volume: 9 btc: 7.8191268 30 day: no data
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Apr 22 00:18:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.10966 = 5.5483 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 00:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.2506001 = 2.506 BTC [-]
Apr 22 00:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2505 BTC [-]
Apr 22 00:23:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 34 @ 0.25 = 8.5 BTC [-]
Apr 22 00:24:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1097 BTC [+]
Apr 22 00:29:04 <mod6>	what's up tonight
Apr 22 00:30:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00070696 = 2.333 BTC [+]
Apr 22 00:31:07 <Chaang-Noi>	not s dice that is for sure
Apr 22 00:31:27 <mod6>	ahh hmm
Apr 22 00:31:31 <mod6>	$depth S.DICE
Apr 22 00:31:33 <mpexbot>	mod6: S.DICE Bids: ['1000 @ 0.00296013', '2000 @ 0.00232623', '200 @ 0.00232622', '3000 @ 0.002001', '4000 @ 0.002']
Apr 22 00:31:34 <mpexbot>	mod6: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.00349998', '1000 @ 0.00349999', '100 @ 0.0035', '1000 @ 0.00358265', '1000 @ 0.00358267']
Apr 22 00:31:43 <mod6>	$vwap S.DICE
Apr 22 00:31:44 <mpexbot>	mod6: S.DICE 1 day: average: 0.00330857 high: 0.00334089 low: 0.00317524 volume: 4356 btc: 14.41211434 7 day: average: 0.00298774 high: 0.00439999 low: 0.0012 volume: 72524 btc: 216.68283638 30 day: average: 0.0032471 high: 0.0045 low: 0.0012 volume: 1587418 btc: 5154.50853742
Apr 22 00:32:09 <mod6>	actually...
Apr 22 00:32:27 <mod6>	but yeah.
Apr 22 00:33:00 <mod6>	ups and downs
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Apr 22 00:56:29 <mod6>	*yawn*
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Apr 22 01:05:40 <mod6>	pff
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Apr 22 01:31:33 <jurov>	yummmy scrollback
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Apr 22 01:39:26 <mod6>	heh looks like it
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Apr 22 01:41:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00070696 = 6.4687 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 01:43:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00070696 = 8.5189 BTC [+]
Apr 22 01:43:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 968 @ 0.00070857 = 0.6859 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 01:55:07 <BitHub>	hello, wondering if anyone have a history div list on asicminer, wondering how much they been paying pershare since paying divs
Apr 22 01:56:01 <ThickAsThieves>	bitfunder shows full history
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Apr 22 01:58:52 <BitHub>	is it the same figures as what friedcat pays to everyone else?
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Apr 22 02:03:01 <mod6>	http://youtu.be/1qfZ1fGNRdM
Apr 22 02:03:13 <mod6>	there you go thestringpuller :]
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Apr 22 02:05:56 <diki>	So when you purchase shares, you get paid dividends right?
Apr 22 02:06:02 <diki>	..or stock
Apr 22 02:06:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000695 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
Apr 22 02:06:49 <mod6>	diki: depends
Apr 22 02:08:13 <mod6>	all the ones listed on mpex (S.MPOE/S.DICE/S.BBET) all pay a dividend if there is one to be paid.
Apr 22 02:08:29 <mod6>	well, like mp said before, 0 is still a value so...
Apr 22 02:09:42 <mod6>	there are other stocks / equities in BTC-land, but i couldn't speak to those. gotta read the contracts.
Apr 22 02:10:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.01041 = 2.0208 BTC [-]
Apr 22 02:17:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1985 BTC [-]
Apr 22 02:17:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11188 @ 0.00070528 = 7.8907 BTC [-]
Apr 22 02:18:03 <mod6>	for instance, the MPEx Stocks have the div's paid at the end of the Bid/Ask list on its listing page such as: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MPOE
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Apr 22 02:49:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.085 BTC [+]
Apr 22 02:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.76000003 BTC [-]
Apr 22 02:50:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.76000002 BTC [-]
Apr 22 02:51:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.089 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 03:12:41 <Wayward>	So what does this channel do?
Apr 22 03:13:58 <leotreasure>	it does
Apr 22 03:14:21 <Scrat>	it is a big circle jerk
Apr 22 03:14:24 <Scrat>	wanna join?
Apr 22 03:14:44 <Wayward>	well who can say no to a name like assbot
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Apr 22 03:21:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009997 = 0.03 BTC [-]
Apr 22 03:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.282 = 0.564 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 03:32:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.014 = 0.126 BTC [+]
Apr 22 03:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.282 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 03:37:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009997 BTC [-]
Apr 22 03:38:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.009998 = 0.09 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 03:40:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00367 BTC [+]
Apr 22 03:40:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 12 @ 0.00368 = 0.0442 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 03:44:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.03001 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 03:46:53 <mod6>	nice, got some good changes committed ... getting closer
Apr 22 03:47:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.03 BTC [-]
Apr 22 03:48:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.03 = 2.06 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 04:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.750001 = 3.5 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 04:23:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 04:30:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.009998 = 0.9998 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:44:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.05 = 2.1 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 04:53:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08499 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:53:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.085 = 10.85 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:53:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.09 = 6.54 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:53:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.1098 = 11.098 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:53:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.13 = 11.3 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:53:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.14995 = 10.3496 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:53:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.14998 = 11.4998 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:53:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.19398 = 3.5819 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:53:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.19399 = 11.9399 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:53:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.194 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:54:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.194 = 4.776 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:54:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1955 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:54:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.228 = 6.14 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:55:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.23998 = 4.9599 BTC [+]
Apr 22 04:55:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23998 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 05:11:43 <pizzaman1337>	I wonder what will become of this sillyness: https://twitter.com/mikko/status/326237176402673664
Apr 22 05:11:57 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 for the record : nothing.
Apr 22 05:12:06 <pizzaman1337>	mmk
Apr 22 05:12:37 <mircea_popescu>	also the guy is blocked on my twitter, which means he must have been sts-like at some point
Apr 22 05:13:11 <pizzaman1337>	Mikko? he's just a researcher
Apr 22 05:13:41 <MJR_>	hey
Apr 22 05:13:47 <MJR_>	how's it going everyone
Apr 22 05:14:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10812 @ 0.00070528 = 7.6255 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 05:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	o look who's back
Apr 22 05:14:36 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 22 05:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	pizzaman1337 musta done some real bad research i guess
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Apr 22 05:28:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4139 @ 0.0006981 = 2.8894 BTC [-]
Apr 22 05:28:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8661 @ 0.00069452 = 6.0152 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 05:42:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2495 BTC [+]
Apr 22 05:43:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2496 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 05:44:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 05:52:29 <bit_nutz>	mt gox stop trading in sgd?
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Apr 22 05:53:13 <mircea_popescu>	yes, preparing for introduction of ltc etc
Apr 22 05:53:34 <bit_nutz>	i see, thanks mp
Apr 22 05:55:01 <mircea_popescu>	bit_nutz i was being facetious, for the record.
Apr 22 05:57:03 <MJR_>	lol they haven't goxxed ltc yet...
Apr 22 05:57:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6588 @ 0.00069834 = 4.6007 BTC [+]
Apr 22 05:57:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3018 @ 0.00070857 = 2.1385 BTC [+]
Apr 22 05:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	ahh romanian smoked cheese + anchoves on american style pancakes
Apr 22 05:58:00 <mircea_popescu>	fusion is where it's at i tell you!
Apr 22 05:59:27 <MJR_>	:)
Apr 22 05:59:50 <MJR_>	eventually we can open the first romanian fusion haute cuisine restaurant that accepts bitcoin lol
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Apr 22 06:12:41 <truffles>	at what rate will mp insulate himself from scary alternative views
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Apr 22 06:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	get 3.5 michelin stars
Apr 22 06:35:19 <jurov>	greets from budapest...finally :)
Apr 22 06:35:42 <jurov>	but i realized i don't have anywhere to rush anyway
Apr 22 06:37:45 <MJR_>	jurov: HI!
Apr 22 06:39:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00367 BTC [-]
Apr 22 06:39:29 <mircea_popescu>	jurov is becoming a philosopher :D
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Apr 22 06:45:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00367 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 06:49:52 <mircea_popescu>	;;goxlag
Apr 22 06:49:52 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 22 06:50:01 <mircea_popescu>	whoa! mtgox is finally ready for hft!
Apr 22 06:50:23 <jurov>	Hi mjr_
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Apr 22 06:59:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19001 BTC [-]
Apr 22 06:59:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 07:09:00 <bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.0
Apr 22 07:09:08 <bowjob>	Someone take me up on this >:)
Apr 22 07:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	bowjob you forgot to include an url
Apr 22 07:10:59 <bowjob>	right
Apr 22 07:11:12 <bowjob>	I feel confident in this game, that I;m willing to do a 1:10 odds
Apr 22 07:11:30 <bowjob>	So, bet 0,1 btc, win 1 BTC if you can beat me
Apr 22 07:12:49 <Uglux>	or play sd ^^
Apr 22 07:13:09 <bowjob>	http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#bitcoin-assets
Apr 22 07:13:11 <bowjob>	oops
Apr 22 07:13:26 <bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.0
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Apr 22 07:16:10 <bowjob>	SD is a guaranteed loss overtime
Apr 22 07:16:18 <bowjob>	unless you are a shareholder
Apr 22 07:16:42 <Scrat>	29,99€ for an arcade?
Apr 22 07:17:27 <Scrat>	no fuck you capcom
Apr 22 07:17:37 <bowjob>	it should be worth more than that. the game is fun as hell
Apr 22 07:25:08 <damientrog>	Shareholders also lose on SD :/
Apr 22 07:25:23 <damientrog>	I remember buying at 0.6
Apr 22 07:25:34 <bowjob>	I got out at 0.62
Apr 22 07:25:34 <bowjob>	:p
Apr 22 07:25:53 <bowjob>	and 0.75. I missed out on the 0.19 panic
Apr 22 07:26:04 <troc>	0.12 even
Apr 22 07:26:11 <troc>	any news ?
Apr 22 07:26:11 <bowjob>	did it go that low? O;
Apr 22 07:26:15 <damientrog>	yeah I bought at 0.2 as well
Apr 22 07:26:22 <damientrog>	and resold at .45
Apr 22 07:26:28 <damientrog>	so it's not all bad
Apr 22 07:26:33 <damientrog>	but still
Apr 22 07:26:52 <damientrog>	I have a respectable amount of shares in SD
Apr 22 07:27:12 <troc>	at least div is looking better this month
Apr 22 07:27:25 <damientrog>	that's good news
Apr 22 07:27:48 <troc>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1906329#msg1906329
Apr 22 07:28:16 <bowjob>	the bet volume isnt too good
Apr 22 07:28:33 <damientrog>	the higher value of BTC
Apr 22 07:28:38 <damientrog>	the lower the volume that will be bet
Apr 22 07:29:04 <damientrog>	yeah I love this dooglus guy
Apr 22 07:29:16 <bowjob>	the argument against that was.. as btc price grows, more people use them.. and more play on s.dice
Apr 22 07:29:19 <damientrog>	he must really be into statistics :)
Apr 22 07:29:37 <bowjob>	dooglus.. he played satoshi dice before
Apr 22 07:29:43 <bowjob>	about 600 dollars bet
Apr 22 07:29:53 <bowjob>	back then when btc was single to double digits
Apr 22 07:30:09 <damientrog>	I've done my bets as well
Apr 22 07:30:14 <damientrog>	and won very well
Apr 22 07:30:15 <damientrog>	then quit
Apr 22 07:30:23 <bowjob>	wise decision
Apr 22 07:30:25 <damientrog>	and bought shares in the house
Apr 22 07:30:35 <damientrog>	since the house always wins, so I thougth :)
Apr 22 07:30:36 <bowjob>	hah. thats how riches are made
Apr 22 07:31:06 <damientrog>	I hope… :)
Apr 22 07:31:40 <damientrog>	but I like Erik as well, I trust he'll come up with something to revive SD
Apr 22 07:32:11 <troc>	ev speaks well, always impresses me how he communicates on air.
Apr 22 07:32:28 <damientrog>	yup a very good advocate for Bitcoin
Apr 22 07:33:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009998 BTC [+]
Apr 22 07:33:33 <bowjob>	no ones taking me up on my offer. are the odds too low?
Apr 22 07:34:07 <deadweasel>	nobody wants to buy the game for a chance to lose to you.
Apr 22 07:34:10 <deadweasel>	methinks
Apr 22 07:34:28 <deadweasel>	plus it's time for work.  ;)
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Apr 22 07:34:38 <damientrog>	deadweasel is right :)
Apr 22 07:35:11 <MJR_>	i wonder...
Apr 22 07:35:24 <MJR_>	are there any charts or order books that account for OTC?
Apr 22 07:35:37 <MJR_>	there is a 6000 coin sell at ~123
Apr 22 07:35:46 <MJR_>	and a 8000 coin buy at 125
Apr 22 07:35:50 <bowjob>	well confession bear here.. I think the odds are 99.9% in my favour lol
Apr 22 07:36:41 <damientrog>	ah you're just here to elate your ego :)
Apr 22 07:36:47 <damientrog>	and we're too pussy to prove you wrong
Apr 22 07:36:58 <bowjob>	nah. i want some btc. :3
Apr 22 07:37:18 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ prolly something you can make. not so hard to query the book
Apr 22 07:37:19 <bowjob>	Thinking of offering a free game if... they deposit at least 1 btc to john
Apr 22 07:37:23 <bowjob>	There is a risk for me..
Apr 22 07:37:34 <bowjob>	if someone out there in an A ranker, I'd get destroyed
Apr 22 07:37:39 <MJR_>	well, i would like to make $12000 on one order...
Apr 22 07:38:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.01498 = 0.1049 BTC [+]
Apr 22 07:40:05 <troc>	rock, paper ... scissors ? How can you be an A ranker in that over the net ?
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Apr 22 07:46:35 <bowjob>	punches beat throws, throws beat blocks and blocks beat punches
Apr 22 07:47:23 <Sin|CRUNK>	bowjob: offer to buy them the game if they deposit 1 btc
Apr 22 07:47:47 <bowjob>	rock paper scissors system. its a game where you beat your opponents using those moves,
Apr 22 07:47:55 <bowjob>	Yes, I'm thinking about it
Apr 22 07:48:28 <bowjob>	I still need to talk to john about this, he can be my escrow
Apr 22 07:55:07 <bowjob>	I'm still brainstorming rules, taking into account for latency
Apr 22 07:55:11 <bowjob>	There, done.
Apr 22 07:55:17 <bowjob>	Taking any and all challengers
Apr 22 08:00:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5946 @ 0.00326035 = 19.386 BTC [+]
Apr 22 08:02:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00367 = 0.0184 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:04:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0036 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:05:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.0032 = 0.032 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:05:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.0031 = 0.093 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 08:08:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9633 @ 0.00070857 = 6.8257 BTC [+]
Apr 22 08:08:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2476 @ 0.00070989 = 1.7577 BTC [+]
Apr 22 08:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.29639998 = 0.8892 BTC [+]
Apr 22 08:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29639999 BTC [+]
Apr 22 08:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.29639999 = 0.8892 BTC [+]
Apr 22 08:11:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19989 BTC [+]
Apr 22 08:11:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11 = 3.33 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.296499 = 2.965 BTC [+]
Apr 22 08:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.296499 = 1.4825 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 08:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.296499 BTC [+]
Apr 22 08:18:06 <bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.msg1910142#msg1910142
Apr 22 08:18:09 <bowjob>	updated.
Apr 22 08:18:14 <bowjob>	anything else should I include?
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Apr 22 08:28:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.19989 = 0.3998 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 08:31:50 <truffles>	bowjob id like to play
Apr 22 08:31:54 <truffles>	k.o
Apr 22 08:32:01 <bowjob>	sure
Apr 22 08:32:04 <bowjob>	u got the game alreayd?
Apr 22 08:32:06 <truffles>	im too poor though
Apr 22 08:32:19 <truffles>	not yet
Apr 22 08:32:39 <bowjob>	heck we can go old school if you want.
Apr 22 08:32:48 <bowjob>	play SF2. its a game older than me
Apr 22 08:32:50 <bowjob>	:)
Apr 22 08:33:00 <truffles>	im not buying things to play a game
Apr 22 08:33:14 <truffles>	rather play against u in something else
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Apr 22 08:33:22 <bowjob>	any proposals?
Apr 22 08:33:41 <bowjob>	id love to get my hands on skullgirls, but they are not out yet
Apr 22 08:34:24 <Sin|CRUNK>	isn't it out for ps3
Apr 22 08:34:31 <bowjob>	it is, but not for pc
Apr 22 08:34:48 <truffles>	lets play this http://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamepanel?game=cantstop
Apr 22 08:34:58 <orkaa>	http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post/48547675807/the-definitive-people-who-thought-chechnya-was-the
Apr 22 08:35:02 <orkaa>	a nice wall of ameritards
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Apr 22 08:35:54 <truffles>	what say u bowjob
Apr 22 08:36:07 <bowjob>	im watching th  rules
Apr 22 08:36:17 <truffles>	of cantstop?
Apr 22 08:36:28 <truffles>	there is slight skill
Apr 22 08:36:34 <truffles>	but its easy
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Apr 22 08:42:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.013 = 0.117 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:42:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0126 = 0.1008 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:42:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0125 = 0.05 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:42:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 17 @ 0.012 = 0.204 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:43:59 <truffles>	bowjob its a game u learn by doing, clicking
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Apr 22 08:45:19 <truffles>	and its free
Apr 22 08:45:44 <bowjob>	you gave me an idea
Apr 22 08:45:50 <kakobrekla>	OMG fuckin bitstamp idiots
Apr 22 08:46:06 <kakobrekla>	they cant even figure out whats wrong with their website / "exchange" / toilet hole
Apr 22 08:46:08 <truffles>	what idea
Apr 22 08:46:08 <bowjob>	I added a second game to play
Apr 22 08:46:08 <bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.msg1910142#msg1910142
Apr 22 08:46:35 <bowjob>	I;m thinking 1:1 on team fortress as well, but its not fit for a 1v1 game.
Apr 22 08:47:04 <truffles>	a chess game
Apr 22 08:47:21 <truffles>	do u have a rank in chess?
Apr 22 08:47:27 <bowjob>	nah
Apr 22 08:47:45 <truffles>	but uve played that game before?
Apr 22 08:47:48 <bowjob>	the game is too rigid for me
Apr 22 08:47:51 <bowjob>	yeah
Apr 22 08:47:56 <daybyter>	Great!
Apr 22 08:48:02 <daybyter>	<= likes chess...
Apr 22 08:48:08 <truffles>	me2
Apr 22 08:48:19 <bowjob>	i still have to learn the basic strats for it
Apr 22 08:48:25 <bowjob>	i know the moves, ect
Apr 22 08:48:26 <daybyter>	I've actually coded a chess engine once...
Apr 22 08:48:31 <truffles>	orly
Apr 22 08:48:47 <daybyter>	but it's quite poor..
Apr 22 08:48:49 <truffles>	def wouldnt play against u then :p
Apr 22 08:49:30 <bowjob>	oh wow. they have a surgeon simulator videogame
Apr 22 08:49:31 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 22 08:50:24 <truffles>	come on cantstop vs me
Apr 22 08:50:36 <bowjob>	wait i quit the vid miday
Apr 22 08:50:37 <bowjob>	midway
Apr 22 08:50:38 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 22 08:50:47 <truffles>	of cantstop?
Apr 22 08:50:52 <bowjob>	perhaps later. its bedtime for me now, its 5:50 AM
Apr 22 08:50:54 <bowjob>	>_>
Apr 22 08:51:17 <truffles>	i can explain this as u play
Apr 22 08:51:22 <daybyter>	oh...2:51 pm here...
Apr 22 08:51:27 <truffles>	u gain an edge only if u can strategize..
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Apr 22 08:53:23 <bowjob>	truffles, game of tactics arena?
Apr 22 08:53:24 <bowjob>	:3
Apr 22 08:53:31 <bowjob>	no btcs, consider it a warmup
Apr 22 08:53:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.104 = 2.208 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:53:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.103001 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:53:45 <truffles>	link
Apr 22 08:53:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.103 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:53:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.102 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:53:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10001 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:53:56 <bowjob>	http://www.tacticsarena.com/play/
Apr 22 08:53:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.07 = 6.42 BTC [-]
Apr 22 08:54:02 <bowjob>	ill wait for u on banff server
Apr 22 08:54:38 <bowjob>	im here now
Apr 22 08:54:42 <truffles>	what kind of rules in this game
Apr 22 08:54:49 <bowjob>	turn based strategy
Apr 22 08:54:53 <truffles>	im just not gonna let u win
Apr 22 08:54:58 *	truffles plays to win
Apr 22 08:55:18 <bowjob>	k, the game randomly picks who moves first
Apr 22 08:55:35 <bowjob>	i pick my move, then ur turn. the goal is you kill more of my guys than you kill of me
Apr 22 08:57:23 <truffles>	makes me think of mobile suit gundam
Apr 22 08:57:45 <bowjob>	u playin?
Apr 22 08:57:51 <bowjob>	im in banff
Apr 22 08:57:51 <truffles>	gimme 5 mins
Apr 22 08:57:58 <bowjob>	aye
Apr 22 08:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.296499 = 1.186 BTC [+]
Apr 22 08:58:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 76 @ 0.2965 = 22.534 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 09:00:15 <truffles>	in?
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Apr 22 09:00:21 <bowjob>	yeap
Apr 22 09:00:26 <bowjob>	wanna go at it?
Apr 22 09:00:30 <truffles>	ya
Apr 22 09:00:44 <bowjob>	floor 7
Apr 22 09:00:48 <bowjob>	wait lemme set up
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Apr 22 09:00:57 <bowjob>	my guys. u can chang etheir beginning stances
Apr 22 09:00:58 <truffles>	we have to play more than 1 game
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Apr 22 09:02:17 <bowjob>	ready
Apr 22 09:02:32 <truffles>	no but lets go
Apr 22 09:03:13 <deadweasel>	https://btc.sx/?tab=signup
Apr 22 09:03:18 <deadweasel>	somebody alpha testing this.
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Apr 22 09:03:55 <deadweasel>	user Sealy in bitcoin-analysis...  interesting.
Apr 22 09:04:37 <truffles>	how do u type there?
Apr 22 09:04:47 <bowjob>	enter
Apr 22 09:05:04 <truffles>	oh neat
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Apr 22 09:19:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 53 @ 0.003679 = 0.195 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 09:21:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00209 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 09:26:36 <kakobrekla>	this one is new to me http://i.imgur.com/vlKihqr.jpg
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Apr 22 09:29:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19999 BTC [+]
Apr 22 09:29:58 <bowjob>	would anyone be interested in rare pockies
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Apr 22 09:40:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1999 BTC [-]
Apr 22 09:41:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 09:41:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.2 = 7.2 BTC [+]
Apr 22 09:41:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.22 = 6.1 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 09:44:00 <truffles>	the battle is delayed for another day
Apr 22 09:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4699 BTC [-]
Apr 22 09:44:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.47 = 9.4 BTC [+]
Apr 22 09:46:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.225 = 9.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 09:50:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 09:53:58 <bowjob>	how do i quote prices in btc
Apr 22 09:55:24 <kakobrekla>	"prices in btc"
Apr 22 09:55:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13251 @ 0.00070989 = 9.4068 BTC [+]
Apr 22 09:56:14 <bowjob>	i saw people price things in btc
Apr 22 09:56:22 <bowjob>	and it adjusts it automatically for them
Apr 22 09:56:26 <bowjob>	pegging it to fiat
Apr 22 09:57:21 <Scrat>	find such person
Apr 22 09:57:29 <Scrat>	click on image -> open in new window
Apr 22 09:57:40 <Scrat>	copy url and replace btc value
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Apr 22 09:58:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00301 = 0.0602 BTC [-]
Apr 22 10:00:17 <Scrat>	(provided that you're talking about the forum)
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Apr 22 10:01:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.000679 = 0.1358 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 10:05:13 <bowjob>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183130.msg1911279#msg1911279
Apr 22 10:05:14 <bowjob>	there
Apr 22 10:05:18 <bowjob>	I dunnit
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Apr 22 10:09:27 <kakobrekla>	poca sweat ?
Apr 22 10:12:11 <ColdHardMetal>	they have "pocari sweat" around here.
Apr 22 10:12:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000693 = 0.104 BTC [+]
Apr 22 10:12:29 <ColdHardMetal>	some ghastly named gatorade equivalent.
Apr 22 10:12:30 <Ukto>	I had one when I was in Japan last week heh
Apr 22 10:13:07 <kakobrekla>	do you have some "lalala piss" too?
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Apr 22 10:19:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11 BTC [-]
Apr 22 10:19:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10102 BTC [-]
Apr 22 10:19:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10101 BTC [-]
Apr 22 10:19:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.101 BTC [-]
Apr 22 10:19:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09103 BTC [-]
Apr 22 10:19:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09102 BTC [-]
Apr 22 10:19:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.091 BTC [-]
Apr 22 10:19:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.09 = 7.63 BTC [-]
Apr 22 10:22:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00070087 = 8.901 BTC [-]
Apr 22 10:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00069911 = 7.3756 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 10:26:34 <Scrat>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwpksY1Sj64
Apr 22 10:26:35 <Scrat>	AHAHAHAH
Apr 22 10:27:45 <Scrat>	fucking crazy russians
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Apr 22 10:41:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.002 = 0.06 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 10:42:18 <kakobrekla>	http://forexmagnates.com/bitcoin-exchange-trading-platform-coming-soon-rtbtc-flashes-specs/
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Apr 22 10:49:13 <zebedee_>	mircea_popescu: For bitbet.us, the weight is for a 1 BTC bet I assume (i.e. proportional to size)?  I might have missed something but this doesn't seem to be explained in the FAQ.
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Apr 22 11:05:41 <mircea_popescu>	zebedee_ i'm not sure how you mean ? the weight is just a factor.
Apr 22 11:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla forexmagnates ?
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Apr 22 11:11:10 <deadweasel>	http://pastebin.com/2DWe3qci
Apr 22 11:11:33 <deadweasel>	only 20 minutes until debork's sham  :)
Apr 22 11:11:55 <deadweasel>	he made it up for fun, methinks
Apr 22 11:15:56 <zebedee_>	mircea_popescu: Right, so my total weight if I bet 2 BTC is twice what it is if I bet 1 BTC?
Apr 22 11:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	yep
Apr 22 11:16:13 <zebedee_>	Although it may be obvious, I don't believe that's explicit anywhere.
Apr 22 11:16:20 <mircea_popescu>	so i get what you ask now. yes it's per btc in the sense gravity is per kilogram.
Apr 22 11:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	not per 1 btc specifically, just, as a factor.
Apr 22 11:16:55 <zebedee_>	But if I bet 1 BTC I get that weight?  That makes it per BTC.
Apr 22 11:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.pymnts.com/briefing-room/prepaid/gift-cards/2013/blackhawk-completes-230-million-ipo/
Apr 22 11:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	so blackhawk is valued at 1.3bn.
Apr 22 11:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	by this comparison satoshi dice is 99% undervalued.
Apr 22 11:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	zebedee_ you get that weight no matter what you bet. it's your bet * that weight.
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Apr 22 11:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/faq/#14
Apr 22 11:17:58 <zebedee_>	Right.
Apr 22 11:18:00 <mircea_popescu>	i think that pretty much says it, wouldn't you say ?
Apr 22 11:18:22 <zebedee_>	I'm a mathemetician, I like precision :)
Apr 22 11:18:41 <zebedee_>	None of this BFL vague bet shit.
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Apr 22 11:19:47 <mircea_popescu>	haha good, but specifically :
Apr 22 11:19:59 <mircea_popescu>	Every bettor on the winning side will receive as follows : 99% of his original bet sum (1% goes to BitBet.us) plus 99% of his bet times the total bet by the losing side multiplied by the winning side total weight and divided by his bet's total weight.
Apr 22 11:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	no good ?
Apr 22 11:20:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18886 BTC [+]
Apr 22 11:20:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18888 BTC [+]
Apr 22 11:20:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [+]
Apr 22 11:21:05 <zebedee_>	mircea_popescu: No I think you're right, thanks.
Apr 22 11:21:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.192 BTC [+]
Apr 22 11:21:10 <mircea_popescu>	np np
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Apr 22 11:21:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18887 BTC [-]
Apr 22 11:21:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00069911 = 1.0137 BTC [-]
Apr 22 11:21:48 *	mircea_popescu tries to be a mathematician too
Apr 22 11:21:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0006972 = 4.8455 BTC [-]
Apr 22 11:21:54 <zebedee_>	One more: what is your policy for bets which are determined before they expire?  e.g. suppose it's a bet about BTC going above X USD by end 2013 and it happens tomorrow.  Do you pay out tomorrow, or what?
Apr 22 11:22:42 <mircea_popescu>	there's two loose cases here. if the stated resolution is far off (ie, more than a week), and the bet is clearly satisfied then the bet is paid off now.
Apr 22 11:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	if the stated resolution is close the bet is resolved now or then, depending on load.
Apr 22 11:23:20 <mircea_popescu>	there are however bets which only resolve on their stated date, regardless. this is obvious from the wording
Apr 22 11:23:28 <zebedee_>	OK because people can game that if they bet just as, or immediately after, it's "happened".
Apr 22 11:23:28 <mircea_popescu>	(such as the avalon delivery bet was)
Apr 22 11:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	zebedee_ no, for two reasons. one is that bets coming in after the fact are refunded
Apr 22 11:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	if you look you will ocasionalyl see "refund" on the bet list.
Apr 22 11:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	furthermore, trying to game it this way exposes you to the following risk : if your bet doesn't make it into a block before bet is closed
Apr 22 11:24:17 <mircea_popescu>	you lose it.
Apr 22 11:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	so few people actually try to game it this way.
Apr 22 11:24:26 <zebedee_>	OK, that seems good.
Apr 22 11:24:48 <zebedee_>	Thanks.  I'm curious - how do you handle your wallet?Do you pregenerate thousands of addresses in and store them in a DB somewhere?
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Apr 22 11:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	all i'm going to say is that bitbet server holds less than 10 btc at all times.
Apr 22 11:26:06 <zebedee_>	Sure.  Just was curious about the tech of the offline wallet, as I've been dealing with such issues in a personal capacity myself.  If you don't want to say anything fair enough, though I don't really see what risk that might expose you to.
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Apr 22 11:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.29649999 = 2.965 BTC [-]
Apr 22 11:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	not risk per se, just, bitbet is a valuable business publicly owned, its internals may be discussed up to a certain - arbitrary - point.
Apr 22 11:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.296499 = 1.186 BTC [-]
Apr 22 11:28:33 <zebedee_>	OK.  What do you do personally if you don't mind my asking?Which client do you use, or do you do your own thing with private keys etc?
Apr 22 11:28:53 <mircea_popescu>	i have a heavily modified bitcoind
Apr 22 11:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2964 BTC [-]
Apr 22 11:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is pretty much what i do in general, my blog is a heavily modified wp etc
Apr 22 11:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	basically my tech ppl pick up some open software and rewrite it.
Apr 22 11:29:20 <zebedee_>	OK, thanks.  I used to use offline electrum but have moved to paper wallets a-la casascius.
Apr 22 11:29:49 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, you hatching some service ?
Apr 22 11:30:34 <thestringpuller>	zebedee_: do you know any casascius resellers
Apr 22 11:30:34 <zebedee_>	No.  Writing my own bitcoin stuff in C though, but just for fun and to understand it better.
Apr 22 11:30:40 <thestringpuller>	shits are hard to find
Apr 22 11:30:47 <mircea_popescu>	zebedee_ it's how good services are started.
Apr 22 11:30:53 <zebedee_>	thestringpuller: me, perhaps.  What are you looking for?  :)
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Apr 22 11:32:12 <zebedee_>	I bought about 30-40 version ones, with the bad hologram.  Gave all away apart from 3, when I saw what they were going for :)
Apr 22 11:32:17 <zebedee_>	And I have more version twos.
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Apr 22 11:33:23 <zebedee_>	Trying to think of devious ways to swap a version 2 for a version 1 with the people I gave them away to :)
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Apr 22 11:33:48 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 22 11:33:55 <mircea_popescu>	what are you, an indian giver ?
Apr 22 11:35:02 <zebedee_>	Not sure what that is.  Just thought it was a cool way to introduce btc to people.  Only gave them to people who have added value to my life in some way or other.
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Apr 22 11:35:35 <mircea_popescu>	indian giver = person who gives then tries to get it back :D
Apr 22 11:35:49 <zebedee_>	Ah :)
Apr 22 11:36:15 <zebedee_>	Anyway, gotta sleep.
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Apr 22 11:56:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0038 BTC [-]
Apr 22 11:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2792 BTC [-]
Apr 22 11:58:12 <jurov>	thestringpuller, molecular does resell
Apr 22 11:58:27 <jurov>	but last i heard is out of stock and need wait a month
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Apr 22 12:02:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 24 @ 0.0038 = 0.0912 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 12:32:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.155012 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 12:35:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.145 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 12:38:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1831 BTC [-]
Apr 22 12:39:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14002 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 12:40:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.14 = 10.26 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 12:45:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 12:51:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.429 = 4.719 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 13:01:45 <mod6>	ugh disk failures :/
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Apr 22 13:33:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00070015 = 5.2511 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 13:35:03 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181662.0 this actually sounds pretty awful
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Apr 22 13:37:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0975 BTC [+]
Apr 22 13:38:25 <jborkl_>	Think how that would have gone for you MP, last month when the bot got raped
Apr 22 13:38:35 <jborkl_>	and that was a real amount of money
Apr 22 13:40:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00070789 = 8.2115 BTC [+]
Apr 22 13:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 547 @ 0.0006972 = 0.3814 BTC [-]
Apr 22 13:40:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6741 @ 0.00069452 = 4.6818 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 13:41:23 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ hm how do you mean ?
Apr 22 13:42:30 <jborkl_>	Well, they can not fufill orders when price crashes- shorting a order $30 - you made good on 21000 BTC
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Apr 22 13:42:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4494 @ 0.00068401 = 3.0739 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 13:52:05 <kakobrekla>	>. This is the kind of one-in-a-million occurance that happens when using cutting edge systems like Bitcoin,
Apr 22 13:52:07 <kakobrekla>	LOL
Apr 22 13:52:36 <kakobrekla>	>and we're glad it happened to us instead of a normal user
Apr 22 13:52:42 <kakobrekla>	yet 'normal user' got harmed
Apr 22 13:53:19 <kakobrekla>	isnt erik with them or mixed smth up?
Apr 22 13:53:38 <kakobrekla>	oh no thats coinapult
Apr 22 13:53:43 <kakobrekla>	nvm
Apr 22 13:56:55 <mod6>	I placed 2 orders on the 9th, one for silver one for gold. I received my silver order by the 15th.  My gold order is still in processing.  Orders were < 2 BTC each.  I was pretty happy with receving my silver order so I gave them a rating of 2.
Apr 22 13:57:43 <mod6>	So far I haven't had any issues or heard the anything like the guy on btctalk.
Apr 22 13:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [+]
Apr 22 13:58:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 1.14002 = 25.0804 BTC [+]
Apr 22 13:59:57 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ ah i see what you mean.
Apr 22 14:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla afaik erik was with bitpay team but they parted amicably
Apr 22 14:00:45 <mircea_popescu>	and now is focusing on coinapult which is not related to coinabul.
Apr 22 14:00:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14001 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:00:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14001 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:01:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:02:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0912 = 2.1824 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:03:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.09 = 3.27 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:03:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.09 = 4.36 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:03:18 <kakobrekla>	myeah
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Apr 22 14:03:22 <kakobrekla>	i mixed cinabul and coinapult
Apr 22 14:03:33 <kakobrekla>	cina = coina
Apr 22 14:04:04 <mod6>	i guess i have scammer ptsd from all of this bitcoin stuff.  There have been some ugly public fights about stuff in the past with them.  But I've been talkin to coingenuity for a long time on irc and looking at the coinabul site a lot but never made a purchse.
Apr 22 14:04:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.0701 = 5.3505 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:04:35 <mod6>	I figured it was worth a try to see how it goes.  So far, I'm satisfied with the service.  Will let you guys know how it ends up.
Apr 22 14:04:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.07 = 5.35 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:04:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.07 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:05:09 <pgp>	erik was with bitinstant, not bitpay, afaik...
Apr 22 14:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	scammer ptsd lol
Apr 22 14:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	nice way of putting it
Apr 22 14:05:24 <mircea_popescu>	pgp o fuck yes i confused them. bitinstant it was.
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Apr 22 14:05:52 <mircea_popescu>	coinpeople bitplease stopcoin bitusing coinames bitfor everycointhing youbit coindo omfbitgod!!
Apr 22 14:06:05 <mod6>	lol
Apr 22 14:06:55 <wences>	lol
Apr 22 14:07:19 <pgp>	lol
Apr 22 14:07:19 <Scrat>	bit_chslap
Apr 22 14:07:40 <pgp>	good one
Apr 22 14:07:56 <mod6>	i seriously do... i've had to navigate through all of these scams since the old days.  i only got scammed, so far, by tor-wallet which was idiot to use anyway.  Lost like 5 BTC on them.
Apr 22 14:08:54 <mod6>	i basically just end up hording btc since or sending them to use on MPEx since the trust level with just about everything else in this space is too great to bear.
Apr 22 14:09:48 <pgp>	trust is hard won in the bitcoin arena...
Apr 22 14:11:06 <kakobrekla>	nah, all you need is a ltd really
Apr 22 14:11:12 <kakobrekla>	just ask stslimited
Apr 22 14:11:17 <kakobrekla>	oh whered he go now
Apr 22 14:14:14 <mircea_popescu>	ok this goes to twitter too
Apr 22 14:15:07 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i imagine he's going to show us all how stoopid we really are
Apr 22 14:15:22 <mircea_popescu>	and how the 500th iteration of a failed idea is going to yield results simply because he doesn't know of the other 499
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Apr 22 14:19:29 <kakobrekla>	i got sunburned from so much light exposure in last few days, just noticed im semi roasted.
Apr 22 14:20:06 <kakobrekla>	gotta calm the skin with lcd backlight.
Apr 22 14:20:10 <kakobrekla>	anyway,
Apr 22 14:20:22 <kakobrekla>	the guy say
Apr 22 14:20:23 <kakobrekla>	>If you want to be a defacto regulatory, at least come up with sensible regulations.
Apr 22 14:20:31 <kakobrekla>	maybe MJR_ can tell him "no skateboards"
Apr 22 14:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	de facto regulatory my foot.
Apr 22 14:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	this is like "you must read" being regulation.
Apr 22 14:21:24 <kakobrekla>	im thinking now, publishing best practices like that would only make scamzors a bit harder to detect
Apr 22 14:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla timisoara > california for sun
Apr 22 14:21:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.0603 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:21:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0602 = 2.1204 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:21:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 1.0601 = 16.9616 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:21:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.06 = 4.24 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:21:54 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla im not sure things work that way. good scamzors are hard to detect anyway. bad ones are bad anyway
Apr 22 14:23:16 <kakobrekla>	ah but i heard baroquesque paleness is comming back in fashion
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Apr 22 14:26:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2965 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 14:38:11 <mircea_popescu>	"At any rate, I would like to humbly solicit the best and brightest minds of our generation to consider this problem"
Apr 22 14:38:16 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/i-have-a-problem-which-i-dont-know-how-to-resolve-so-do-you/
Apr 22 14:38:19 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform ^
Apr 22 14:40:17 <jcpham>	don't see the problem
Apr 22 14:40:26 *	jcpham is corrupt
Apr 22 14:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	well that's why
Apr 22 14:41:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23198 @ 0.00068402 = 15.8679 BTC [+]
Apr 22 14:41:06 <jcpham>	so we form a non-profit for dooglas
Apr 22 14:41:20 <jcpham>	and pay him from that?
Apr 22 14:41:33 <jcpham>	we not including me
Apr 22 14:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	then including who ?
Apr 22 14:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	any guy who figures he can somehow elbow people into sending donations which he can then uyse as working capital for some other venture ?
Apr 22 14:42:47 <mircea_popescu>	bs model, even more immoral than the problem.
Apr 22 14:42:59 <jcpham>	those who see value in his work should dnoate or contribute to an organization that pays him
Apr 22 14:43:02 <jcpham>	like a lobbyist
Apr 22 14:43:16 <jcpham>	he work isn't lobbied for to your liking
Apr 22 14:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	so then those with better marketing skills will get paid
Apr 22 14:43:43 <jcpham>	i see the problem. but the irl solution is just as immoral
Apr 22 14:43:46 <mircea_popescu>	and people doing useful shit will just get trhe added insult.
Apr 22 14:43:52 <mircea_popescu>	much like copyrigh works currently.
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Apr 22 14:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham indeed. article even says that.
Apr 22 14:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4263 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:44:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42620002 = 0.8524 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:44:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.426 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:44:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.42520001 = 2.126 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:44:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4252 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:44:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.42511001 = 2.1256 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:44:09 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 46 @ 0.42511 = 19.5551 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 14:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.2965 = 6.8195 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 14:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2989 BTC [+]
Apr 22 14:46:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.299 = 0.598 BTC [+]
Apr 22 14:46:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.3 = 3.9 BTC [+]
Apr 22 14:47:00 <jcpham>	sticky.
Apr 22 14:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
Apr 22 14:47:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.3297 = 3.9564 BTC [+]
Apr 22 14:47:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32979998 = 3.298 BTC [+]
Apr 22 14:47:05 <jcpham>	very sticky indeed
Apr 22 14:47:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.34 = 2.38 BTC [+]
Apr 22 14:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
Apr 22 14:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.34 = 4.08 BTC [+]
Apr 22 14:48:09 <jcpham>	keep this in mind, if you will
Apr 22 14:48:32 <jcpham>	he work that dooglas does, does it involve his opinions or is he simply formulating data
Apr 22 14:48:33 <mircea_popescu>	exactly.
Apr 22 14:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham he's not really giving any opinion at all, just data processing atm.
Apr 22 14:49:00 <jcpham>	if you pay him for opinion it is one thing, but paying for reporting is another
Apr 22 14:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	but he has designed the entire process.
Apr 22 14:49:11 <jcpham>	he's designed a report
Apr 22 14:49:15 <jcpham>	which has value
Apr 22 14:49:54 <jcpham>	if he were providing a forecast or something i think it's a lot more questionable that paying for a data report
Apr 22 14:51:01 <mircea_popescu>	suppose he makes a mistake in a future version
Apr 22 14:51:07 <mircea_popescu>	which statistically speaking is guaranteed.
Apr 22 14:52:18 <jcpham>	well if we're talking about compensation, I wouldn't suggest paying for bad data...
Apr 22 14:52:24 <jcpham>	but ye. he fudges something
Apr 22 14:52:32 <jcpham>	what's the damage?
Apr 22 14:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	well i dunno, forum full of ppl conspiracytheorizing
Apr 22 14:55:29 <jcpham>	i can see that but like i said, what do you value his data or his opinions
Apr 22 14:55:43 <jcpham>	the conspiracy would stem from the two of you combining your opinions
Apr 22 14:55:49 <jcpham>	not the actual data
Apr 22 14:55:54 <mircea_popescu>	maybe that line is not always easy to draw.
Apr 22 14:55:55 <jcpham>	i agree
Apr 22 14:56:00 <jcpham>	but in your head it should be
Apr 22 14:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28000001 BTC [-]
Apr 22 14:56:05 <jcpham>	maybe not to everyone else
Apr 22 14:56:42 <jcpham>	but his data could game you if you don't have your own fact-checkers
Apr 22 15:03:25 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 22 15:04:11 <orkaa>	http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3u1a6b/
Apr 22 15:04:12 <orkaa>	haha
Apr 22 15:04:40 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 22 15:05:08 <mircea_popescu>	tho the argument is kinda misplaced. caucasian !=== white.
Apr 22 15:05:56 <orkaa>	let me check the wiki page :)
Apr 22 15:06:12 <orkaa>	Historically, the term was used for many people from these regions, without regard necessarily to skin tone.
Apr 22 15:06:15 <orkaa>	hmpf.
Apr 22 15:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	:p
Apr 22 15:07:01 <mircea_popescu>	this is like egypt. classically egyptians were tall, thin nosed, fair haired people.
Apr 22 15:07:13 <MJR_>	;;NEXT
Apr 22 15:07:14 <gribble>	\*AWAY UNTIL April 28\*  resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 day, 1 hour, 7 minutes, and 12 seconds ago
Apr 22 15:07:16 <mircea_popescu>	current day egyptians are turkish stock (short, stocky, black curly hair)
Apr 22 15:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Apr 22 15:07:46 <orkaa>	yeah, but anyway
Apr 22 15:07:56 <orkaa>	guys were american citizens anyway
Apr 22 15:08:05 <orkaa>	shouldn't matter where they came from
Apr 22 15:08:37 <truffles>	watch out for making a counter point, he might block u for disagreeing
Apr 22 15:09:04 <MJR_>	we aren't all american citizens here...(i am, not that it matters)
Apr 22 15:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	orkaa americans are racist in their own peculiar ways.
Apr 22 15:09:47 <mircea_popescu>	so yeah, it matters sometime.
Apr 22 15:09:57 <truffles>	we r all netizens
Apr 22 15:10:30 <truffles>	shouldve taken the name of the guy who came up with the term...
Apr 22 15:11:26 <MJR_>	netizen will be more important
Apr 22 15:11:28 <MJR_>	than citizen
Apr 22 15:11:44 <truffles>	probably
Apr 22 15:12:10 <orkaa>	internet won't be able to cure our cancer when we're 70
Apr 22 15:12:11 <orkaa>	hehe
Apr 22 15:12:24 <orkaa>	so we either get insanely rich by then
Apr 22 15:12:24 <truffles>	actually
Apr 22 15:12:30 <orkaa>	or we live in the right country
Apr 22 15:12:40 <truffles>	3d printers might have a vaccine for it, if cure exists
Apr 22 15:13:02 <kakobrekla>	just print a new lung whats the big deal
Apr 22 15:13:25 <truffles>	..
Apr 22 15:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	scumbag kakobrekla  : prints you a new lung. you had pancreatic cancer.
Apr 22 15:13:41 <kakobrekla>	:D
Apr 22 15:14:22 <orkaa>	mircea_popescu, at least he'd be fair, everyone gets the same deal
Apr 22 15:14:24 <orkaa>	:))
Apr 22 15:14:31 <joecool>	those laser printers = lung cancer
Apr 22 15:14:50 <joecool>	you think that's a fresh smell? that's the toner permeating your lung tissue
Apr 22 15:15:04 <joecool>	better to smoke than work in office
Apr 22 15:15:11 <kakobrekla>	yeah it does smell nice!
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Apr 22 15:15:18 <kakobrekla>	cough cough
Apr 22 15:16:20 <joecool>	kakobrekla: go hardcore, do lines of different colored toner
Apr 22 15:16:37 <kakobrekla>	colors are more powerful?
Apr 22 15:16:52 <kakobrekla>	i only have b/w
Apr 22 15:17:05 <kakobrekla>	though it doesnt prit white!
Apr 22 15:17:08 <kakobrekla>	print
Apr 22 15:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183080.msg1913245#msg1913245
Apr 22 15:17:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1489 BTC [+]
Apr 22 15:17:44 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 22 15:18:48 <joecool>	mircea_popescu: romania have blackfolk?
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Apr 22 15:20:04 <MJR_>	i think they play basketball for the local team...that is not a joke
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Apr 22 15:20:15 <mircea_popescu>	joecool there's a bunch of peeps from africa come to study, there's also a strong gypsy minority.
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Apr 22 15:20:51 <mircea_popescu>	in general actually black people are rare enough that banging a black chick is a sort of personal trophy for any male
Apr 22 15:21:12 <mircea_popescu>	i imagine they get a pretty sweet self confidence boost by visiting lol
Apr 22 15:21:19 <joecool>	lol
Apr 22 15:21:50 <truffles>	amazing people want to go to romania !
Apr 22 15:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Apr 22 15:21:50 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Apr 22 15:22:07 <joecool>	yeah never did that, its bad enough being at a bar and having a giant black ass jackhammer you in the crotch
Apr 22 15:22:17 <joecool>	(just sayin)
Apr 22 15:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8658940855a91fd41ff34ec5e2af5634fb5c544400a2488917640e7c
Apr 22 15:22:25 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Apr 22 15:22:43 <joecool>	but this is the US, black people in canada are pretty rare and i've never seen a giant one there
Apr 22 15:22:47 <truffles>	whats a jackhammer ?
Apr 22 15:22:56 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate dooglus 2 Does useful things.
Apr 22 15:22:57 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user dooglus has been recorded.
Apr 22 15:23:02 <orkaa>	in slovenia we elected the first black mayor ever
Apr 22 15:23:09 <orkaa>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11616879
Apr 22 15:23:22 <joecool>	truffles: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/files/2009/09/jimma-with-jackhammer.jpg
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Apr 22 15:24:10 <truffles>	u get that up ur crotch?
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Apr 22 15:26:02 <joecool>	truffles: nah it's more like a box truck backing up repeatedly into you
Apr 22 15:26:15 <joecool>	i guess
Apr 22 15:27:04 <truffles>	oh u mean the butt right
Apr 22 15:27:20 <truffles>	unless this is a penis joke i missed
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Apr 22 15:35:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.31 BTC [-]
Apr 22 15:36:04 <truffles>	feel like i killed chat now...
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Apr 22 15:37:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1486 BTC [-]
Apr 22 15:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 15:50:29 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 22 15:50:30 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.31057, Best ask: 125.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.68942, Last trade: 126.00001, 24 hour volume: 66759.35870641, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 126.60000, 24 hour vwap: 122.13301
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Apr 22 15:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	heh this stability.
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Apr 22 16:00:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14999 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 16:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.42511 = 1.7004 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 16:06:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1678 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 16:07:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1679 BTC [+]
Apr 22 16:07:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.176 = 2.352 BTC [+]
Apr 22 16:07:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.17686 = 2.3537 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 16:14:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.305 BTC [+]
Apr 22 16:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 190 @ 0.00349995 = 0.665 BTC [+]
Apr 22 16:17:39 <Namworld>	Well as much as being at that price for about 2 days can be called stability
Apr 22 16:18:24 <mircea_popescu>	almost 3!
Apr 22 16:18:47 <kakobrekla>	is more stable than gold
Apr 22 16:18:56 <truffles>	orly
Apr 22 16:19:02 <kakobrekla>	yarly
Apr 22 16:19:08 <pgp>	24h volume on gox is a only 68k
Apr 22 16:19:09 <Namworld>	eheh
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Apr 22 16:20:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46999999 BTC [+]
Apr 22 16:20:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12706 @ 0.00068401 = 8.691 BTC [-]
Apr 22 16:20:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00068326 = 11.4446 BTC [-]
Apr 22 16:20:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14452 @ 0.00067796 = 9.7979 BTC [-]
Apr 22 16:20:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5171 @ 0.00067618 = 3.4965 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 16:24:02 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 22 16:24:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.00003, Best ask: 125.09999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09996, Last trade: 125.00003, 24 hour volume: 64124.31164192, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 126.60000, 24 hour vwap: 122.08643
Apr 22 16:24:10 <thestringpuller>	wow
Apr 22 16:24:21 <thestringpuller>	volume cut in half
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Apr 22 16:25:48 <pgp>	yep...  so I would be hesitate to call "all clear" on price stability...
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Apr 22 16:27:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 35 @ 0.00221 = 0.0774 BTC [+]
Apr 22 16:27:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1768 BTC [-]
Apr 22 16:28:05 <kakobrekla>	vol is inline with what it was before the pop or poop, whatever you wanna call it
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Apr 22 16:28:44 <kakobrekla>	not impying anything just observation
Apr 22 16:29:16 <truffles>	more stable than gold would imply something to me
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Apr 22 16:29:23 <pgp>	true, but with so many new accounts at gox, seems very light to me...
Apr 22 16:30:00 <kakobrekla>	the line is getting longer but the news are calming, are they de-amling users?
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Apr 22 16:39:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.19989 = 0.7996 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 16:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
Apr 22 16:54:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.002 = 0.02 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 16:56:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000693 = 0.0347 BTC [+]
Apr 22 16:57:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00368 = 0.0405 BTC [+]
Apr 22 16:59:19 <TheMonarchTx>	all the new accounts were for speculation
Apr 22 16:59:45 <TheMonarchTx>	so once the bubble popped it's not surprising that the new accounts don't result in increased volume
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Apr 22 17:01:00 <punkman>	wonder how much BFL is payinf for all their ads, just saw this on adwords: http://www.butterflylabs.com/landing/landing-aw.php
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Apr 22 17:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	punkman the average scam pays between 1/3 and 1/2 of all net revenuye for advertising
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Apr 22 17:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3025 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 17:09:00 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179098.msg1914050#msg1914050
Apr 22 17:09:01 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 22 17:11:15 <mod6>	haha jeeze. it makes my eyes bleed some of the stuff i read on there on a daily basis.
Apr 22 17:12:28 <mircea_popescu>	she must have misunderstood his point :D
Apr 22 17:13:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4550 @ 0.00288767 = 13.1389 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 17:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
Apr 22 17:16:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Apr 22 17:16:04 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 22 17:16:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.30002, Best ask: 126.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18998, Last trade: 126.30001, 24 hour volume: 65465.64089159, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 127.00000, 24 hour vwap: 122.30066
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Apr 22 17:34:00 <MJR_>	mod6: whats up!
Apr 22 17:34:11 <MJR_>	do you know the largest diff jump that has happened so far this year?
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Apr 22 17:41:20 <mod6>	oh hai! well looks like there was this: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
Apr 22 17:41:32 <mod6>	err: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-ever.png
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Apr 22 17:42:11 <mod6>	this one makes me really think hard: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-ever.png
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Apr 22 17:47:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2478 @ 0.00068402 = 1.695 BTC [+]
Apr 22 17:47:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7672 @ 0.00069088 = 5.3004 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 17:50:13 <mod6>	i'm looking at a near ~35% jump in difficulty in around the 23rd of March (if im looking at it correctly): http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-10k.png
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Apr 22 17:55:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.17681 BTC [+]
Apr 22 17:57:49 <mod6>	;;bc,estimate
Apr 22 17:57:49 <gribble>	Error: "bc,estimate" is not a valid command.
Apr 22 17:57:51 <mod6>	bah
Apr 22 17:58:18 <mod6>	;;bc,stats
Apr 22 17:58:21 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 232642 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1213 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 17 hours, 25 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9617358.12743 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.1656
Apr 22 18:02:54 <dub>	http://vimeo.com/64582799
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Apr 22 18:29:58 <mod6>	so everyone mines btcguild now or what?
Apr 22 18:30:59 <mod6>	oh i guess this graph in thumbnail form looked like a lot closer to 50%: http://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrs
Apr 22 18:32:40 <mod6>	http://imgur.com/d9jpLqY
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Apr 22 18:35:18 <kakobrekla>	i cant belive im saying this but theres space for new pools
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Apr 22 18:36:18 <Doffx>	That would be tough to do kakobrekla, this community trusts no one and rightfully so not to mention all the pools seem to go bankrupt
Apr 22 18:36:32 <Doffx>	They would also need to offer something new and exciting to get people to move
Apr 22 18:36:52 <kakobrekla>	nah, all you need is a nice site and a nice name like kakobrekla
Apr 22 18:36:53 <Doffx>	Although I do agree it seems like we need some more new choices
Apr 22 18:37:23 <Doffx>	hehe , are you making a pool?
Apr 22 18:37:27 <kakobrekla>	look at deepbit
Apr 22 18:37:31 <kakobrekla>	stuck in 1988
Apr 22 18:38:13 <Doffx>	It looks like its finally dying off
Apr 22 18:38:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00067618 = 1.42 BTC [-]
Apr 22 18:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	i hope all pools go bankrupt tbh
Apr 22 18:38:18 <kakobrekla>	miners are becoming the apple idiots
Apr 22 18:38:28 <ThickAsThieves>	kako, if you make an ltc pool i'd move there :)
Apr 22 18:38:30 <kakobrekla>	they are buying hashers in nice cases and shit
Apr 22 18:38:38 <kakobrekla>	they want preety charts and shit like dat
Apr 22 18:38:55 <Doffx>	I dont care what it looks like, I just want TH speed
Apr 22 18:39:20 <kakobrekla>	im not making any pool, just saying
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Apr 22 18:39:31 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu why the hate
Apr 22 18:39:58 <ThickAsThieves>	he prefers people solo mine?
Apr 22 18:40:01 <mircea_popescu>	i don't like pools because basically they fuck up the entire point of mining
Apr 22 18:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	that said obviously they're unavoidable.
Apr 22 18:41:17 <kakobrekla>	it aint all bad, if no pools would be online
Apr 22 18:41:22 <kakobrekla>	hashrate would be much lower
Apr 22 18:41:28 <mircea_popescu>	how do you figure ?
Apr 22 18:41:47 <kakobrekla>	cause a ton of people wouldnt mine under solo conditions
Apr 22 18:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	this is an interesting point
Apr 22 18:42:20 <Doffx>	I dunno p2pool seemed good but no one uses it, decentralized mining.
Apr 22 18:42:23 <kakobrekla>	same problem as with gox
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Apr 22 18:42:29 <kakobrekla>	you need to spread the points
Apr 22 18:42:31 <mircea_popescu>	Doffx i wonder why that is.
Apr 22 18:42:41 <kakobrekla>	you dont need 100k , but 5 is not enough
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Apr 22 18:43:18 <Doffx>	I used it but it felt like I was losing BTC doing so, there were so many other options that made me slight more
Apr 22 18:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	cause of stales ?
Apr 22 18:43:39 <Doffx>	err slightly more, my reason was well.. I am greedy to a point?
Apr 22 18:43:53 <kakobrekla>	basically the new protocol from Luke-Jr fucked it all up
Apr 22 18:44:03 <kakobrekla>	if we would be stuck with getwork
Apr 22 18:44:07 <kakobrekla>	asic would have to run solos
Apr 22 18:44:19 <kakobrekla>	now they are pooling too
Apr 22 18:45:06 <Doffx>	p2pool seemed to be disliked by a lot of the developer types for some reason
Apr 22 18:45:16 <Doffx>	Kano didn’t like it either.
Apr 22 18:45:24 <mircea_popescu>	what's luke to do with that ?!
Apr 22 18:45:26 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: don't be stupid
Apr 22 18:45:36 <kakobrekla>	its what i do!
Apr 22 18:45:50 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: I intentionally designed the new protocol so that it SOLVED the pooled mining centralization problem
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Apr 22 18:46:17 <kakobrekla>	by pluging asics in a pool?
Apr 22 18:46:20 <kakobrekla>	good job!
Apr 22 18:46:33 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: by taking the blind control away from pools
Apr 22 18:46:39 <Luke-Jr>	putting it back with the miners
Apr 22 18:46:40 <Doffx>	I haven’t seen anything about this new protocol, is there a post about it someplace?
Apr 22 18:46:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00069088 = 4.4562 BTC [+]
Apr 22 18:46:53 <Luke-Jr>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getblocktemplate
Apr 22 18:47:05 <Doffx>	Thanks.
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Apr 22 18:47:22 <kakobrekla>	im sure the reason btcguild is trying to get rid of miners is because its all safe and good
Apr 22 18:47:23 <mircea_popescu>	how is gbt new even
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Apr 22 18:47:30 <kakobrekla>	well "new"
Apr 22 18:47:36 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: BTCGuild/slush made their own protocol which un-solved the problem
Apr 22 18:47:37 <kakobrekla>	its newer than getwork
Apr 22 18:47:44 <kakobrekla>	ah
Apr 22 18:47:45 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: they apparently WANT centralization
Apr 22 18:47:47 <kakobrekla>	yours was rejected
Apr 22 18:47:49 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, stratum seems pretty much the standard.
Apr 22 18:47:55 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: not really, just by the big centralized pools
Apr 22 18:47:58 <mircea_popescu>	gbt didn't manage to get much traction iirc.
Apr 22 18:48:02 <kakobrekla>	so, rejected.
Apr 22 18:48:02 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: most of the smaller pools support GBT
Apr 22 18:48:10 <kakobrekla>	omg.
Apr 22 18:48:22 <Luke-Jr>	hopefully more ASIC miners will get off centralized pools
Apr 22 18:48:31 <Luke-Jr>	no clue why they're all going onto BTCGuild
Apr 22 18:48:54 <kakobrekla>	to help him out cause of hack
Apr 22 18:49:00 <Luke-Jr>	…
Apr 22 18:49:10 <Luke-Jr>	are you confusing BTCG vs ozcoin?
Apr 22 18:49:13 <dub>	its because menstruation is murder
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Apr 22 18:50:10 <kakobrekla>	guild lost coins
Apr 22 18:50:13 <kakobrekla>	not long ago
Apr 22 18:50:22 <kakobrekla>	ah that was split + hack or something
Apr 22 18:50:23 <kakobrekla>	no
Apr 22 18:50:29 <Luke-Jr>	…
Apr 22 18:50:29 <kakobrekla>	split + lameness
Apr 22 18:50:32 <kakobrekla>	that was it
Apr 22 18:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	anyhway. getwork was a pos.
Apr 22 18:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	no way anyone was sticking with it.
Apr 22 18:50:50 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: they lost nothing from the split, Gavin gave them what they would have mined
Apr 22 18:50:57 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: tell Tycho/Deepbit
Apr 22 18:50:59 <kakobrekla>	dafuck
Apr 22 18:51:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.01001 = 0.0901 BTC [+]
Apr 22 18:51:03 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: he still doesn't support rollntime
Apr 22 18:51:20 <kakobrekla>	hey gavin i lost 100k ... can i has?
Apr 22 18:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr deepbit doesn't want to upgrade because generally speaking updates are also shit.
Apr 22 18:51:28 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: BTCGuild *did* lose a bit when they upgraded to 0.8 because the admin wasn't paying attention to what he was doing
Apr 22 18:51:34 <ThickAsThieves>	BTCG lost coins by mistake
Apr 22 18:51:36 <ThickAsThieves>	no hack
Apr 22 18:51:43 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: they don't have to upgrade to use rollntime
Apr 22 18:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	they're on 3.4 or some shit
Apr 22 18:52:11 <Luke-Jr>	0.3.21
Apr 22 18:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	3.2 mk
Apr 22 18:52:28 <Luke-Jr>	but rollntime isn't done at bitcoind, it's done at the poolserver
Apr 22 18:53:01 <mircea_popescu>	ya but there's somesort of conflict or something
Apr 22 18:53:02 <Doffx>	What happens if someone decided to plop 200+ GH worth of Asic on Deepbit
Apr 22 18:53:05 <Doffx>	does it go boom?
Apr 22 18:53:10 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: nope
Apr 22 18:53:21 <Luke-Jr>	Doffx: you can't even put 20 Gh/s of GPUs without it going boom
Apr 22 18:53:22 <ThickAsThieves>	doffx, i assume you eant TH
Apr 22 18:53:43 <ThickAsThieves>	oh deepbit, nvm
Apr 22 18:53:45 <Doffx>	No Gh, mainly because I know they only really work with Stratum pools
Apr 22 18:53:56 <Doffx>	Because of how fast they getwork I think
Apr 22 18:54:01 <Luke-Jr>	Doffx: and GBT
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Apr 22 18:54:16 <Doffx>	I see that after reading the wiki
Apr 22 18:54:28 <Doffx>	GBT has been around a long time, even when I started 2 years ago
Apr 22 18:54:39 <mircea_popescu>	ya it's "new"
Apr 22 18:54:43 <Luke-Jr>	not that long lol
Apr 22 18:55:09 <Luke-Jr>	Created: 28-02-2012
Apr 22 18:55:22 <Doffx>	I thought I remember seeing it way back I am probably wrong mainly because this is the first time I understood what it even meant.
Apr 22 18:55:36 <Doffx>	Oh so little over a year
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Apr 22 18:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	so basically other than eclipse who exactly even uses gbt ?
Apr 22 18:56:04 <Luke-Jr>	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getblocktemplate#For_miners
Apr 22 18:56:06 <Doffx>	Bitminter, elegius
Apr 22 18:56:25 <Doffx>	eligius too
Apr 22 18:56:26 <kakobrekla>	so the pool can still feed you template from a forked chain
Apr 22 18:56:29 <kakobrekla>	right
Apr 22 18:56:34 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 22 18:56:34 <gribble>	71767.6896568
Apr 22 18:56:43 <Doffx>	Wow 71
Apr 22 18:56:43 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 22 18:56:44 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 9612397.38912 based on data since last change | 10025677.4438 based on data for last three days
Apr 22 18:57:17 <ThickAsThieves>	Luke-Jr, which asic companies are hashing on the side?
Apr 22 18:57:18 <mircea_popescu>	a ok bitminter.
Apr 22 18:57:26 <Luke-Jr>	ThickAsThieves: Avalon and ASICMiner at least
Apr 22 18:57:36 <kakobrekla>	Luke-Jr: so the pool can still feed you template from a forked chain?
Apr 22 18:57:36 <Luke-Jr>	BFL is apparently doing a "demo" jalapeno
Apr 22 18:57:58 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: could; miners are expected to be smart and detect such things
Apr 22 18:58:12 <Luke-Jr>	kakobrekla: bitcoind and p2pool can feed you a forked template too
Apr 22 18:58:38 <kakobrekla>	so you solved nothing.
Apr 22 18:59:06 <Luke-Jr>	pools no longer can do nasty stuff behind miners' backs
Apr 22 18:59:10 <Luke-Jr>	that was the problem all along
Apr 22 18:59:40 <Doffx>	I didnt even know about Bitpenny
Apr 22 19:01:07 <Luke-Jr>	nobody did :/
Apr 22 19:01:18 <Luke-Jr>	apparently they're now centralizing their pool and going stratum-only :/
Apr 22 19:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	anyone can get http://markets.blockchain.info/ ?
Apr 22 19:02:17 <pizzaman1337>	I can't
Apr 22 19:02:23 <TomServo>	same
Apr 22 19:03:17 <mircea_popescu>	hm
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Apr 22 19:04:33 <Doffx>	I dont think most miner even know what GBT is.
Apr 22 19:04:45 <bowjob>	guys anyone recognized the s/s
Apr 22 19:04:46 <bowjob>	http://i.imgur.com/DRb5Ydu.png
Apr 22 19:04:46 <Doffx>	Does p2pool even work with Asics?
Apr 22 19:05:00 <bowjob>	which site is the account from
Apr 22 19:05:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00385 = 0.0077 BTC [+]
Apr 22 19:05:56 <Luke-Jr>	Doffx: using GBT doesn't require any extra effort from the miners like stratum does :p
Apr 22 19:06:06 <Doffx>	That looks like some sort of custom mining app, I have never seen that before and I think I have tried just about every pool
Apr 22 19:06:17 <ThickAsThieves>	thats 50BTC's app
Apr 22 19:06:29 <ThickAsThieves>	in that jpg
Apr 22 19:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	50btc lol k
Apr 22 19:06:39 <bowjob>	whats the p for
Apr 22 19:06:45 <mod6>	ya!
Apr 22 19:06:47 <bowjob>	this kid was claiming he mined it all on 1 day
Apr 22 19:06:48 <bowjob>	lol
Apr 22 19:07:01 <Doffx>	Lol, you know what, I have never used 50btc
Apr 22 19:07:11 <ThickAsThieves>	P must be like PPCoin or whatever
Apr 22 19:07:21 <mod6>	ah
Apr 22 19:07:43 <Doffx>	Well, Luke-Jr seems like it makes sense to use, however you would somehow need to convince the miners to use it.
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Apr 22 19:08:08 <Doffx>	Forcing the pools would also be difficult, not sure why they decided to use Stratum however
Apr 22 19:08:13 <Luke-Jr>	Doffx: anyone mining with BFGMiner will automatically use GBT if the pool supports it (unless they specifically set stratum)
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Apr 22 19:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	ya but nobody mines with bfgminer
Apr 22 19:08:31 <Doffx>	That's good to know.
Apr 22 19:08:58 <Doffx>	I would use it if he could figure out why I lose 800 MH over time with my Cainsmore :P
Apr 22 19:09:36 <Luke-Jr>	Doffx: because the freq drops?
Apr 22 19:10:11 <Doffx>	Why though, it doesent drop in MPBM, it stays the same indefinitely as far as I can tell.
Apr 22 19:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	in other centralisation news, http://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrs
Apr 22 19:10:29 <mircea_popescu>	btc + slush just enough over 50%
Apr 22 19:10:47 <Luke-Jr>	Doffx: drops are triggered by hw errors usually
Apr 22 19:10:54 <Luke-Jr>	Doffx: maybe the balance is off
Apr 22 19:11:01 <Doffx>	I seem to get more in Bfgminer then
Apr 22 19:11:18 <Doffx>	the clocks stablize in MPBM and then never change once they reach the spot they like
Apr 22 19:11:19 <ThickAsThieves>	wtf is wrong with gox today anyway
Apr 22 19:11:29 <ThickAsThieves>	only API trades alloweD?
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Apr 22 19:11:59 <Doffx>	I wish I was able to help you more Luke-Jr but I honestly dont understand it.
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Apr 22 19:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves next they implement gpg
Apr 22 19:13:14 <ThickAsThieves>	fat chance
Apr 22 19:13:24 <ThickAsThieves>	wait, he is fat
Apr 22 19:13:25 <ThickAsThieves>	hmm
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Apr 22 19:18:03 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 22 19:18:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.74001, Best ask: 126.43000, Bid-ask spread: 0.68999, Last trade: 126.43000, 24 hour volume: 63681.08188621, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 127.30000, 24 hour vwap: 122.64010
Apr 22 19:18:19 <thestringpuller>	it aint a thing if it aint got that swing
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Apr 22 19:26:24 <thestringpuller>	ls
Apr 22 19:26:59 <kakobrekla>	.
Apr 22 19:27:00 <kakobrekla>	..
Apr 22 19:27:49 <Doffx>	ls -a
Apr 22 19:28:19 <kakobrekla>	yeah yeah
Apr 22 19:28:47 <kakobrekla>	-la accually.
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Apr 22 19:32:00 <Doffx>	or -lah so we can see the symlinks?
Apr 22 19:33:14 <dub>	h makes size human readable
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Apr 22 19:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	-latex so it's all sexy smooth.
Apr 22 19:38:38 <kakobrekla>	omg
Apr 22 19:38:38 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1911371#msg1911371
Apr 22 19:38:49 <kakobrekla>	what is this indian malarkey, its missing skateboards
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Apr 22 19:40:48 <mircea_popescu>	basically the guy is daydreaming.
Apr 22 19:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	kids often do this, "what if i were the emperor of Rome" or "what if i was the only person in town" etc.
Apr 22 19:46:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00067915 = 18.6766 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 19:48:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009911 = 0.0496 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009911 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 16 @ 0.00991 = 0.1586 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009901 = 0.0297 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.0099 = 0.198 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00989 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00986 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00986 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.009855 = 0.0394 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.0098 = 0.0392 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.0098 = 0.0588 BTC [-]
Apr 22 19:48:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 633 @ 0.00976 = 6.1781 BTC [-]
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Apr 22 19:59:57 <kakobrekla>	this is getting hilarious https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183088.0
Apr 22 20:00:12 <kakobrekla>	Starting a trade site? > I have two domains available to me, so it only makes sense to use one for trading.
Apr 22 20:00:40 <kakobrekla>	the logic.
Apr 22 20:00:52 <copumpkin>	makes perfect sense to me
Apr 22 20:04:16 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181982.0
Apr 22 20:10:37 <truffles>	looks like potential competition
Apr 22 20:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.81999999 BTC [+]
Apr 22 20:14:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136667606120.jpg
Apr 22 20:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	there's a deluge of idiots
Apr 22 20:21:20 <taub>	who are you responding to?
Apr 22 20:21:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1301 BTC [-]
Apr 22 20:21:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.127175 BTC [-]
Apr 22 20:22:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.247btc.com/bitcoins/134/how-i-would-manipulate-the-bitcoin-exchange-market-and-how-a-discrete-double-auction-could-stop-me/#comment-142
Apr 22 20:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, the 140th comment on his site. go me.
Apr 22 20:22:38 <taub>	ty
Apr 22 20:22:50 <taub>	it's a stupid suggestion of course
Apr 22 20:22:53 <taub>	lets make market slow and inefficient
Apr 22 20:23:10 <taub>	that makes it better
Apr 22 20:23:12 <mircea_popescu>	that's not even it.
Apr 22 20:23:24 <mircea_popescu>	what offends me is this "i am a teenage cock with no experience whatsoever
Apr 22 20:23:35 <mircea_popescu>	therefore let me tell you how things are and how'd they be better"
Apr 22 20:23:49 <taub>	=D
Apr 22 20:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	then proceeds to describe the cubical red sky
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Apr 22 20:24:24 <mircea_popescu>	who the fuck even heard of exchange settling a 80 bid and 90 ask at 85 ?!
Apr 22 20:24:41 <mircea_popescu>	not even him. but that's okay cause he goes back and puts an "usually" in paranthesis there. problem fixed.
Apr 22 20:24:48 <mircea_popescu>	fucking taken out and shot ffs.
Apr 22 20:24:53 <taub>	well that actually happens
Apr 22 20:25:02 <taub>	opening acutions right before the market opens
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Apr 22 20:25:25 <taub>	oh well okay the prices would have to intersect
Apr 22 20:25:31 <mircea_popescu>	it almost never happens.
Apr 22 20:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	even if it's a situation of loaded book, they're settled by fixing
Apr 22 20:25:48 <mircea_popescu>	which means volume matters too
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Apr 22 20:26:03 <mircea_popescu>	it's just... superficial nonsense of cluelessness
Apr 22 20:27:26 <taub>	http://www.nyse.com/equities/nysearcaequities/1157623605117.html
Apr 22 20:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	"The Opening Auction will occur at the Indicative Match Price — the price at which the maximum volume of orders is executable at the time of the auction"
Apr 22 20:28:28 <mircea_popescu>	you know ? volume matters too. it ain't 85.
Apr 22 20:28:41 <taub>	yea
Apr 22 20:29:06 <truffles>	In Romania, I dont think MP is ever wrong when he discusses a topic
Apr 22 20:29:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is what i'm saying, things are what they are not what some dood gleaned from 15 minutes of skimming wikipedia.
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Apr 22 20:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	nice link tho
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Apr 22 20:32:13 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.79001, Best ask: 128.59143, Bid-ask spread: -0.19858, Last trade: 128.99990, 24 hour volume: 60612.58053853, 24 hour low: 119.21210, 24 hour high: 128.89000, 24 hour vwap: 123.57448
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Apr 22 20:48:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11101 BTC [-]
Apr 22 20:48:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.111 BTC [-]
Apr 22 20:48:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.111 BTC [-]
Apr 22 20:49:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11 = 3.33 BTC [-]
Apr 22 20:53:29 <pgp2>	hey mp, why do you prefer to decay the weight (or allow originator to set the decay) for bitbet?  I've been doing some analysis and it really creates a heavy skews favoring early betting.
Apr 22 20:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	early betting bets blind
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Apr 22 20:56:15 <pgp2>	I get that, but decaying by 5 orders of magnitude seems extreme
Apr 22 20:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	only 2 in any practical sense
Apr 22 20:57:34 <pgp2>	right, but still...  there are open bets where there's like -40% EV - people stop betting...
Apr 22 20:57:48 <mircea_popescu>	link one ?
Apr 22 20:58:21 <pgp2>	http://bitbet.us/bet/329/btc-network-difficulty-tops-10-million-by-end/
Apr 22 20:59:01 <pgp2>	EV on this one is -44%
Apr 22 20:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	which side is -40 EV ?
Apr 22 20:59:25 <pgp2>	collectively
Apr 22 20:59:37 <pgp2>	assume I bet on both sides
Apr 22 20:59:41 <mircea_popescu>	that makes no sense.
Apr 22 20:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	o, you mean jointly.
Apr 22 20:59:53 <pgp2>	yes
Apr 22 21:00:03 <pgp2>	that how you compute EV
Apr 22 21:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.99* 44.69/89.87 * 0.06753 + .99
Apr 22 21:00:36 <gribble>	1.02324509339
Apr 22 21:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.99* 89.87/44.69 * 0.06753 + .99
Apr 22 21:00:43 <gribble>	1.12444242311
Apr 22 21:00:55 <mircea_popescu>	seems it's ~7% ev
Apr 22 21:01:11 <pgp2>	no
Apr 22 21:01:48 <mircea_popescu>	a nm it's by the weight pools
Apr 22 21:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.99* 89.87* ( 6753/5116522) + .99
Apr 22 21:02:23 <gribble>	1.10742804759
Apr 22 21:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.99* 44.69* ( 6753/2369410) + .99
Apr 22 21:02:50 <gribble>	1.11609622408
Apr 22 21:02:59 <mircea_popescu>	heh. 11% ?
Apr 22 21:03:51 <pgp2>	if I bet 1 on yes AND on no I will win either 1.05 or 1.26
Apr 22 21:04:13 <mircea_popescu>	did i get it backwards still ?
Apr 22 21:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.99* 44.69* ( 6753/5116522) + .99
Apr 22 21:04:19 <gribble>	1.04839389615
Apr 22 21:04:21 <pgp2>	so I bet 2 BTC to return either 1.05 or 1.26
Apr 22 21:04:32 <pgp2>	~40%
Apr 22 21:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 0.99* 89.87* ( 6753/2369410) + .99
Apr 22 21:04:36 <gribble>	1.24357502032
Apr 22 21:04:55 <mircea_popescu>	i get 1.04 and 1.24 must be you made your calc at earlier weight ?
Apr 22 21:05:05 <pgp2>	close enough
Apr 22 21:05:15 <mircea_popescu>	alrgiht so we have confirmation on the numbers at least.
Apr 22 21:05:21 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 22 21:05:29 <mircea_popescu>	the idea is to marketmake early not late.
Apr 22 21:05:30 <pgp2>	I bet 2 to win EITHER 1.04 OR 1.24
Apr 22 21:05:43 <mircea_popescu>	in this case, ~94% of the time for this bet is past.
Apr 22 21:06:12 <pgp2>	so I worked out a close appoximation for EV
Apr 22 21:06:38 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 22 21:06:39 <pgp2>	if you look at avg weight (total weight / total bets)
Apr 22 21:07:10 <pgp2>	then EV = (CurrentWeight - AvgWeight)/(2 * AvgWeight) - .01
Apr 22 21:07:27 <pgp2>	for small bets relative to the whole
Apr 22 21:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	lemme do the math for this
Apr 22 21:09:09 <pgp2>	pretty sure it's right
Apr 22 21:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	i'm getting
Apr 22 21:11:07 <mircea_popescu>	0.2475 * curr_weight * (no_pool/yes_weight + yes_pool/no_weight) + .495
Apr 22 21:11:47 <kakobrekla>	wheres the sqrt(log())
Apr 22 21:11:55 <mircea_popescu>	the good news being that you're guaranteed half your money back no matter what
Apr 22 21:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	which makes this eerly familiar to mpoe bond
Apr 22 21:12:14 <pgp2>	lol
Apr 22 21:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. there's incentive for you to do this type of bet (ie, a marketmaking bet) early in the bet's life.
Apr 22 21:13:59 <mircea_popescu>	this is deliberate, as it helps the casual player.
Apr 22 21:14:34 <mircea_popescu>	basically you can make a little % by financing the odds. so you can pretty much run a line bookie thing on top of bitbet.
Apr 22 21:14:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00068694 = 6.1138 BTC [+]
Apr 22 21:14:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+]
Apr 22 21:14:57 <pgp2>	exactly...
Apr 22 21:15:09 <pgp2>	just wanted to confirm the analysis
Apr 22 21:15:30 <mircea_popescu>	i think it's confirmed
Apr 22 21:15:56 <pgp2>	for popular bets the it can be an significant incentive
Apr 22 21:16:11 <mircea_popescu>	well ideally we want popular bets anyhow.
Apr 22 21:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	rather than clutter.
Apr 22 21:16:57 <pgp2>	I was surprised, though, at just how BAD the odds can get.  Perhaps you should consider a minimum decay value
Apr 22 21:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	i wouldn't say the odds are bad.
Apr 22 21:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	why would you be betting both sides 95% of the time in ?
Apr 22 21:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	the fact that either side is still +EV seems pretty good to me. means if you have a conviction you can still take a side.
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Apr 22 21:18:10 <pgp2>	at 10,000 weight with pool average of 50,000...  that's terrible EV...  The pool should be closed or EV disclosed...
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Apr 22 21:19:23 <pgp2>	just saying that maybe a decay minimum of 20,000 would be appropriate...
Apr 22 21:20:33 <pgp2>	the problem, ultimately, will be PR.  As more people bet, others will come to the same conclusions - people will talk shit about bitbet and you didn't even get to benefit from any of that negative EV...
Apr 22 21:21:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00069088 = 2.5908 BTC [+]
Apr 22 21:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	but listen, on one hand this is disclosed
Apr 22 21:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	ie, bet says what your wright is, and what the minimum is
Apr 22 21:24:51 <mircea_popescu>	on the other, it's fully setable, min can be 100k or anything down to 1
Apr 22 21:28:52 <pgp2>	yes, but could be a bit more transparent - i found it confusing at first.
Apr 22 21:29:33 <pgp2>	I know that it's settable, just suggesting a firm minimum so that EV can never get to far out of whack.
Apr 22 21:33:17 <pgp2>	like maybe display average pool weight - stuff so they can compute something round in their head and not have to resort to a calculator
Apr 22 21:33:33 <pgp2>	w/e just a suggestion
Apr 22 21:34:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 21:34:30 <kakobrekla>	smth in that sense will be added in teh new interface
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Apr 22 21:35:23 <kakobrekla>	not sure if avg pool weight will help avg user though
Apr 22 21:35:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.191 = 1.337 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 21:36:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.1982 = 1.5856 BTC [+]
Apr 22 21:36:47 <pgp2>	then compute the current payout percentages on both side, or somthing - I really think that it would help
Apr 22 21:38:14 <pgp2>	in getting more people to bet - I think that the complexity is a barrier to new users...
Apr 22 21:38:52 <pgp2>	;;stats
Apr 22 21:38:53 <gribble>	I have 18 registered users with 23 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
Apr 22 21:39:28 <pgp2>	 ;;bc,stats
Apr 22 21:39:38 <pgp2>	;;bc,stats
Apr 22 21:39:41 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 232668 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1187 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 25 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9648500.29011 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.51261
Apr 22 21:42:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
Apr 22 21:42:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.44999998 = 2.25 BTC [-]
Apr 22 21:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/403/bitcoin-at-420-on-or-before-4-20/
Apr 22 21:53:14 <mircea_popescu>	the comments on this bet are so fucking funny.
Apr 22 21:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82 BTC [+]
Apr 22 21:59:09 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 22 21:59:23 <kakobrekla>	im suprised by the lack of trolls and spam
Apr 22 21:59:35 <mircea_popescu>	ya, 100% millitant nonsense so far.
Apr 22 21:59:41 <kakobrekla>	that static captcha test must have worked
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Apr 22 22:00:34 <kakobrekla>	i mean there is no "PENIS" and "VAGINA" to be seen
Apr 22 22:00:37 <kakobrekla>	which is nice
Apr 22 22:00:57 <kakobrekla>	(i was kinda expecting that)
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Apr 22 22:07:19 <dub>	PENISVAGINA
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Apr 22 22:24:18 <Bugpowder>	Grasshopper….
Apr 22 22:24:19 <Bugpowder>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoxiK7K28PU&feature=youtu.be
Apr 22 22:25:55 <dub>	asphixywanker
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Apr 22 22:26:32 <Bugpowder>	can't make the damn this play
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Apr 22 22:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-is-quite-the-lulzmine/
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Apr 22 22:37:37 <Bugpowder>	what the actual fuck
Apr 22 22:37:45 <Bugpowder>	cannot be this stupid
Apr 22 22:37:51 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 22 22:37:53 <mircea_popescu>	yes can.
Apr 22 22:37:57 <Bugpowder>	this is youtube comment level stupid
Apr 22 22:38:04 <mircea_popescu>	only 70%
Apr 22 22:38:11 <Bugpowder>	cry the beloved bitcoin
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Apr 22 22:39:59 <mircea_popescu>	Μῆνιν ἄειδε, θεὰ, Πηληϊάδεω Ἀχιλῆος
Apr 22 22:40:11 <joecool>	oh look, runes
Apr 22 22:40:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 22 22:40:41 <kakobrekla>	well, i could do MCIX - cos(1)
Apr 22 22:40:58 <kakobrekla>	eh cos 0
Apr 22 22:41:18 <mircea_popescu>	thea is, of course, goddess
Apr 22 22:42:28 <mircea_popescu>	aeide would be some sort of praise, tell the story of,
Apr 22 22:42:35 <mircea_popescu>	canonically translated as "sing" in thsi context.
Apr 22 22:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	which is, of course, "sing o goddess the anger of achilles"
Apr 22 22:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 7 @ 1.4213 = 9.9491 BTC [+]
Apr 22 22:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.46999998 = 9.4 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 22:57:16 <kakobrekla>	;;bids 0
Apr 22 22:57:19 <kakobrekla>	;;bids 100
Apr 22 22:57:19 <gribble>	There are currently 32830369 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22120568.3399 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0302 seconds
Apr 22 22:57:19 <gribble>	There are currently 51181.643 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 5822184.4739 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0586 seconds
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Apr 22 22:58:14 <kakobrekla>	fishy
Apr 22 22:59:36 <Bugpowder>	All time high on bids 0
Apr 22 23:00:08 <kakobrekla>	you back all in? :)
Apr 22 23:00:59 <Bugpowder>	nah
Apr 22 23:01:04 <Bugpowder>	but I'm in
Apr 22 23:01:13 <Bugpowder>	I'm going to try trading around a core position
Apr 22 23:01:27 <Bugpowder>	keep 1k in coins
Apr 22 23:01:33 <Bugpowder>	for safekeeping
Apr 22 23:01:38 <Bugpowder>	and then use the rest to daytrady
Apr 22 23:02:11 <Bugpowder>	someone in bitcoin analysis just noted that btcchina volume is increasing
Apr 22 23:02:27 <Bugpowder>	http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=3d
Apr 22 23:02:31 <Bugpowder>	blip or real?
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Apr 22 23:18:21 <dub>	asicminer dumping coins from the 56TH they are stealth mining?
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Apr 22 23:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82 BTC [+]
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Apr 22 23:52:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.1982 = 0.7928 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 00:10:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
Apr 23 00:13:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 00:17:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00068694 = 4.5682 BTC [-]
Apr 23 00:17:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00067916 = 0.6792 BTC [-]
Apr 23 00:17:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 874 @ 0.00067915 = 0.5936 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 00:23:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1689 BTC [+]
Apr 23 00:23:23 <Diablo-D3>	so
Apr 23 00:23:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.169 BTC [+]
Apr 23 00:23:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.176 BTC [+]
Apr 23 00:23:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.17687 BTC [+]
Apr 23 00:23:43 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 452.51831528 * [ticker --last]
Apr 23 00:23:44 <gribble>	57696.0942486
Apr 23 00:25:15 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 452.51831528 * 500
Apr 23 00:25:15 <gribble>	226259.15764
Apr 23 00:25:23 <Bugpowda>	;;bids 0
Apr 23 00:25:26 <gribble>	There are currently 32869133 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22152378.3749 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0131 seconds
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Apr 23 00:36:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1998 BTC [+]
Apr 23 00:36:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.1999 = 8.3993 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 01:00:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 147 @ 0.01498 = 2.2021 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 01:02:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.015 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Apr 23 01:03:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.016 = 1.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 01:12:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.009999 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Apr 23 01:23:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000693 = 0.0693 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 02:01:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00069088 = 2.6944 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 02:05:48 <marcopolo_>	Is mpoe-pr here?
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Apr 23 02:21:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00069088 = 1.6581 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 02:44:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00265301 = 2.3877 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 02:49:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3773 @ 0.00069088 = 2.6067 BTC [+]
Apr 23 02:49:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7227 @ 0.00069211 = 5.0019 BTC [+]
Apr 23 02:58:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7355 @ 0.00068317 = 5.0247 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:10:01 <jurov>	marcopolo_: talk to mircea_popescu directly if hes around
Apr 23 03:13:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00068056 = 3.675 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:13:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4962 @ 0.00067916 = 3.37 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:13:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3238 @ 0.00067875 = 2.1978 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 03:55:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00067871 = 6.1084 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:55:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3164 @ 0.00067875 = 2.1476 BTC [+]
Apr 23 03:55:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 136 @ 0.00067861 = 0.0923 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:56:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.12002 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:56:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.12001 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:56:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.12001 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:56:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.12 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:57:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.113 = 2.226 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:58:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11 BTC [-]
Apr 23 03:59:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00067861 = 2.6126 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 04:26:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2195 @ 0.00068239 = 1.4978 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 04:32:06 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 23 04:32:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.50000, Best ask: 127.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 127.50000, 24 hour volume: 63794.59686465, 24 hour low: 120.00000, 24 hour high: 129.20000, 24 hour vwap: 125.07695
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Apr 23 04:38:42 <bitesak>	;;bids 0
Apr 23 04:38:45 <gribble>	There are currently 32795971 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22394946.7165 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0123 seconds
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Apr 23 04:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4962 @ 0.00070888 = 3.5175 BTC [+]
Apr 23 04:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11148 @ 0.00071245 = 7.9424 BTC [+]
Apr 23 04:57:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.000709 = 8.6144 BTC [-]
Apr 23 04:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6890 @ 0.00072 = 4.9608 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 05:25:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00072 = 11.736 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 05:27:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1810 @ 0.00072 = 1.3032 BTC [+]
Apr 23 05:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8190 @ 0.00073 = 5.9787 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 05:39:00 <zebedee_>	mircea_popescu: I assume weight decay is linear on BitBet.  Do you have any reason that's the most optimal curve to encourage early bets?  Personally, I doubt it.
Apr 23 05:39:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14001 BTC [+]
Apr 23 05:39:42 <zebedee_>	any reason to believe
Apr 23 05:39:44 <mircea_popescu>	zebedee_ i doubt it too. the original plan was to allow curve definition at bet introduction
Apr 23 05:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	however we couldn't find a way that was both intuitive for non-math people to specify and practicable in a web interface.
Apr 23 05:40:09 <zebedee_>	Something like e^-x is probably more appropriate.
Apr 23 05:40:11 <zebedee_>	Yeah
Apr 23 05:40:21 <mircea_popescu>	can you prove e^-x is better ?
Apr 23 05:40:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.14 = 2.28 BTC [-]
Apr 23 05:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	can you prove there exists some manner to select the better curve ?
Apr 23 05:40:39 <zebedee_>	It just weights earlier bets more than linearly.  Just a guess.
Apr 23 05:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	people kinda complain about too much weight for early bets tho
Apr 23 05:41:14 <zebedee_>	Those that weight until the last moment to bet HUGE on a near-certain outcome?  We can ignore them.
Apr 23 05:41:17 <zebedee_>	Perhaps.
Apr 23 05:41:18 <mircea_popescu>	don't get me wroing, the question ios a very good one
Apr 23 05:41:28 <zebedee_>	s/wait/weight/ sigh.
Apr 23 05:41:34 <mircea_popescu>	just, it needs some serious address.
Apr 23 05:41:53 <mircea_popescu>	if you review closed bets, the system as it is works superbly to discourage the tail betting.
Apr 23 05:41:55 <zebedee_>	Agreed.  Room for innovation!  BoB is linear too I think.
Apr 23 05:43:09 <zebedee_>	I like my bets to have at least 1 week of no-betting time before determination, to force people to at least be taking some risk when betting.  Just my preference.
Apr 23 05:43:28 <zebedee_>	1 day doesn't seem to cut it.
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Apr 23 05:48:30 <mircea_popescu>	well depends on the bet. bitbet has a 7 to 3 day interval settable iirc
Apr 23 05:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	if the bet is "stock will be over x on y day" then y-3 works juyst fine i guess
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Apr 23 06:02:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18889 BTC [+]
Apr 23 06:02:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1889 BTC [+]
Apr 23 06:03:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [+]
Apr 23 06:03:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 06:05:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.19 = 5.95 BTC [+]
Apr 23 06:09:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.19 = 5.95 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 06:30:52 <pgp2>	right, if pool is closed 3-7 days before determing factor, there is less of a need to decay to 1
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Apr 23 06:39:16 <Scrat>	[05:42] <mircea_popescu> aeide would be some sort of praise, tell the story of,
Apr 23 06:39:20 <Scrat>	always translates to sing
Apr 23 06:39:32 <Scrat>	if you shuffle a letter around it translates to vagina
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Apr 23 06:44:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00072802 = 2.0385 BTC [-]
Apr 23 06:44:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00071866 = 6.4679 BTC [-]
Apr 23 06:44:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00071119 = 2.8448 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 06:59:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15001 BTC [-]
Apr 23 06:59:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.15 = 10.35 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 07:14:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
Apr 23 07:15:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 07:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.3 = 6 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 07:32:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00072095 = 6.2723 BTC [+]
Apr 23 07:32:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073 = 4.234 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 07:38:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00265301 = 2.3877 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 07:55:18 <ChaangNoi>	;;asks 119
Apr 23 07:55:21 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 119.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0026 seconds
Apr 23 07:55:26 <ChaangNoi>	;;bids 119
Apr 23 07:55:27 <gribble>	There are currently 25036.97 bitcoins demanded at or over 119.0 USD, worth 3063571.35549 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.0331 seconds
Apr 23 07:55:42 <ChaangNoi>	that is a large number 25 just to 119 that is bullish
Apr 23 07:55:45 <ChaangNoi>	;;bids 0
Apr 23 07:55:46 <gribble>	There are currently 29831987 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22847009.5336 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.1612 seconds
Apr 23 07:55:54 <ChaangNoi>	22 million nice
Apr 23 07:56:39 <ChaangNoi>	;;bids 100
Apr 23 07:56:40 <gribble>	There are currently 57573.842 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 6586580.08243 USD in total. | Data vintage: 78.7672 seconds
Apr 23 07:56:45 <ChaangNoi>	nice
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Apr 23 08:10:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.000694 = 0.347 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 08:11:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00071953 = 0.3598 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 08:12:07 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 23 08:12:10 <gribble>	There are currently 201161.83 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 16241019.1092 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0091 seconds
Apr 23 08:12:17 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 0
Apr 23 08:12:17 <gribble>	There are currently 29831814 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22839304.496 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.3404 seconds
Apr 23 08:12:25 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 250
Apr 23 08:12:26 <gribble>	There are currently 91014.313 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 16165486.0703 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.1350 seconds
Apr 23 08:12:36 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 23 08:12:36 <gribble>	There are currently 65988.188 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 10221023.1214 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.7091 seconds
Apr 23 08:13:48 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 100
Apr 23 08:13:48 <gribble>	There are currently 57540.927 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 6581906.95486 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.5067 seconds
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Apr 23 08:21:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00355 BTC [-]
Apr 23 08:26:50 <MJR_>	lol, zhou tong is back
Apr 23 08:28:08 <Bugpowda>	Did I hear this right?
Apr 23 08:28:11 <Bugpowda>	http://www.reuters.com/video/2013/04/23/an-exclusive-peek-into-the-worlds-bigges?videoId=242413486&videoChannel=5  $5-20MM flowing into gox per day, 300,000-1MM flowing out.
Apr 23 08:28:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.016 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Apr 23 08:28:31 <Bugpowda>	I can't tell if he said 500,000 or 5M as the minimum amount per day flowing in
Apr 23 08:33:15 <pizzaman1337>	he has such a think accent
Apr 23 08:33:17 <pizzaman1337>	where is he from?
Apr 23 08:34:18 <Bugpowda>	sounds swiss
Apr 23 08:34:47 <ThickAsThieves>	i did not expect that voice to come out of that face
Apr 23 08:35:07 <Bugpowda>	lol
Apr 23 08:35:26 <ThickAsThieves>	bug you heard right
Apr 23 08:35:34 <ThickAsThieves>	as far as i can hear
Apr 23 08:35:56 <pizzaman1337>	yeah, I think that was "five and..... 20 million dollars"
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Apr 23 08:37:48 <MJR_>	i thought he said 20 million coming in 300k to 1 million going out
Apr 23 08:38:55 <MJR_>	then he said, a lot more coming in than going out
Apr 23 08:39:29 <Scrat>	pizzaman1337: france
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Apr 23 08:40:13 <pizzaman1337>	oh, interesting
Apr 23 08:41:10 <Bugpowda>	130 is going down soon
Apr 23 08:41:59 <Scrat>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NoxiK7K28PU
Apr 23 08:42:05 <Scrat>	give spacex ipo
Apr 23 08:42:06 <leotreasure>	http://youtu.be/Vzge_rRdXHQ
Apr 23 08:42:14 <tiberiusiv>	ammount of money "flowing" in makes no difference with price
Apr 23 08:42:19 <tiberiusiv>	just improves liquidity
Apr 23 08:42:19 <leotreasure>	The Secret World Of Gold Full & Complete Program
Apr 23 08:42:48 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 23 08:42:49 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.57901, Best ask: 128.58000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 128.58000, 24 hour volume: 60109.66578235, 24 hour low: 120.05001, 24 hour high: 129.20000, 24 hour vwap: 125.76562
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Apr 23 08:45:11 <Bugpowda>	yeah that grasshopper test is amazing
Apr 23 08:45:25 <Bugpowda>	full demo is scheduled by the end of this year
Apr 23 08:45:37 <Bugpowda>	IPO is in another 1-2yr
Apr 23 08:45:50 <tiberiusiv>	spaceX ipo would collapse
Apr 23 08:45:55 <Bugpowda>	lol
Apr 23 08:46:00 <Bugpowda>	like TSLA?
Apr 23 08:46:16 <tiberiusiv>	TSLA is government subsidized
Apr 23 08:46:24 <tiberiusiv>	they make no money
Apr 23 08:46:33 <Bugpowda>	yet
Apr 23 08:46:37 <Bugpowda>	the stock is up
Apr 23 08:46:38 <tiberiusiv>	spaceX has 0 profits nor any real profit potential
Apr 23 08:46:47 <Scrat>	trollolol
Apr 23 08:46:49 <tiberiusiv>	its extremely capital intensive too
Apr 23 08:46:56 <Bugpowda>	stick to the toilet paper investments
Apr 23 08:46:57 <tiberiusiv>	same with TSLA
Apr 23 08:47:11 <tiberiusiv>	the likelyhood of TSLA being around in a decade is low
Apr 23 08:47:42 <tiberiusiv>	eletric cars are way too expensive to manufacture vs gasoline competitors
Apr 23 08:48:31 <tiberiusiv>	bugpowda: you dont get it do you. what spaceX does is *extremely* capital intensive while providing little chance of sustained profits
Apr 23 08:48:45 <tiberiusiv>	that entire industry is supported by the government
Apr 23 08:49:05 <MJR_>	erik schmidt just talked about bitcoins on cnbc
Apr 23 08:49:14 <Scrat>	yes, because noone else launches satellites
Apr 23 08:49:31 <tiberiusiv>	only government contractors do
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Apr 23 08:50:06 <tiberiusiv>	boeing, locheed etc. all these firms would be tiny if it wasnt for government defense money
Apr 23 08:50:34 <Scrat>	as for tesla, we are exactly at the point where big battery packs are viable for cars
Apr 23 08:50:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [+]
Apr 23 08:50:43 <Scrat>	and their energy density doubles every 4-5 years
Apr 23 08:50:43 <tiberiusiv>	no they arent viable
Apr 23 08:50:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4101 BTC [-]
Apr 23 08:51:04 <tiberiusiv>	a tesla costs what a high end luxury vehicle costs
Apr 23 08:51:15 <tiberiusiv>	while providing *NONE* of the ride quality/anemities
Apr 23 08:51:27 <tiberiusiv>	and TSLA required government liquidity to stay alive
Apr 23 08:51:41 <Scrat>	model X will be out soon, and then an even cheaper model is in the works
Apr 23 08:51:52 <tiberiusiv>	thats nice. not a single one has made a profit yet
Apr 23 08:52:02 <tiberiusiv>	if it wasnt for government loans they would have bankrupted years ago
Apr 23 08:52:05 <pnkvbz>	Upgrading gigamining to teramining: is it worth it?
Apr 23 08:52:22 <tiberiusiv>	not a single car manufacturer has a successful electric car that consumers want on the road
Apr 23 08:52:23 <jurov>	$5-20MM flowing into gox per day, 300,000-1MM flowing out... so the fiat evaporates there?
Apr 23 08:52:38 <tiberiusiv>	all the ones produced are due to government regulations or subsidies
Apr 23 08:52:43 <jurov>	or are gox acct balances inreasing by few mm every day?
Apr 23 08:52:46 <Scrat>	not a single computer manufacturer has a successful tablet that consumers want in their hands
Apr 23 08:52:48 <Scrat>	see what i did there?
Apr 23 08:53:10 <tiberiusiv>	tablets do not require government help
Apr 23 08:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00072114 = 4.4711 BTC [+]
Apr 23 08:53:12 <tiberiusiv>	for a reason.
Apr 23 08:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00073 = 1.971 BTC [+]
Apr 23 08:53:24 <tiberiusiv>	any business that requires state intervention to stay alive is a utter failure
Apr 23 08:53:32 <Scrat>	they are paying it off just fine
Apr 23 08:53:42 <tiberiusiv>	no they arent.
Apr 23 08:54:01 <tiberiusiv>	the capital that was wasted on tesla was taken from parts of the economy that actually needed it
Apr 23 08:54:15 <tiberiusiv>	its an economic loss thats politically convenient
Apr 23 08:54:42 <tiberiusiv>	if tsla was so fantastic private investors would have provided sufficient $
Apr 23 08:54:54 <tiberiusiv>	for future dividends/profits
Apr 23 08:54:54 <Scrat>	how the fuck is is a waste, they are paying off the loan
Apr 23 08:54:57 <tiberiusiv>	but there never will be any
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Apr 23 08:55:07 <tiberiusiv>	scrat only because interest rates are at 0
Apr 23 08:55:17 <tiberiusiv>	they should NEVER have recieved a loan from the government.
Apr 23 08:55:26 <tiberiusiv>	thats what capital markets are for
Apr 23 08:55:26 <ThickAsThieves>	is Scrat an uninitiated tiberius victim?
Apr 23 08:55:41 <Scrat>	lol
Apr 23 08:55:51 <tiberiusiv>	why should the government take revenue from productive business to lend it to failed companies?
Apr 23 08:56:01 <tiberiusiv>	or ones with 0 future that solve nothing
Apr 23 08:56:09 <Scrat>	productive businesses (GM)
Apr 23 08:56:15 <tiberiusiv>	another failure
Apr 23 08:56:21 <ThickAsThieves>	does the Note 2 count as a tablet? I kinda want one now that my wife has one
Apr 23 08:56:25 <tiberiusiv>	GM should have been broken up into smaller companies
Apr 23 08:56:37 <tiberiusiv>	during a normal bankruptcy
Apr 23 08:56:51 <Scrat>	ThickAsThieves: im fully aware that I'm feeding the troll
Apr 23 08:56:54 <tiberiusiv>	its key brands would have been sold off to capable hands
Apr 23 08:56:56 <ThickAsThieves>	kk
Apr 23 08:57:05 <tiberiusiv>	vs unions being bailed out
Apr 23 08:57:07 <tiberiusiv>	that vote obama
Apr 23 08:57:37 <MJR_>	poor Scrat
Apr 23 08:57:46 <MJR_>	has he called you poor yet?
Apr 23 08:57:52 <tiberiusiv>	scrat is a clueless twit like most in here
Apr 23 08:58:01 <tiberiusiv>	go buy spaceX ipo in 2 years lol
Apr 23 08:58:06 <tiberiusiv>	lose your penny jar
Apr 23 08:58:26 <tiberiusiv>	make wallstreet rich
Apr 23 08:58:30 <MJR_>	jurov: i think its turned into bitcoins, and people are leaving their cash there
Apr 23 08:58:34 <MJR_>	not withdrawing it yet
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Apr 23 08:59:29 <tiberiusiv>	lol jurov not understanding how a broker works
Apr 23 08:59:41 <tiberiusiv>	while himself running a brokerage
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Apr 23 09:01:17 <Scrat>	tiberiusiv is a made up character
Apr 23 09:01:30 <Scrat>	an elaborate markov chain bot being fed data from /b/
Apr 23 09:01:31 <TomServo>	no, it's a battle bot
Apr 23 09:01:39 <tiberiusiv>	the reason i dont like companies like TSLA is because the management is more political/ideological then about running a real business
Apr 23 09:01:43 <Bugpowda>	tiberiusiv: fam already has spaceX options
Apr 23 09:02:24 <tiberiusiv>	i dont invest into things that involve the government
Apr 23 09:02:29 <tiberiusiv>	they usually end badly
Apr 23 09:02:34 <jurov>	MJR_: or mtgox prevents them withdrawing it
Apr 23 09:02:35 <tiberiusiv>	for shareholders
Apr 23 09:03:23 <tiberiusiv>	spaceX requires government contracts for payloads to space
Apr 23 09:03:35 <tiberiusiv>	and those would be one of the first things cut in austerity
Apr 23 09:03:49 <tiberiusiv>	since sending useless things to space is a none priority expenditure
Apr 23 09:05:00 <tiberiusiv>	the truth is, even a mission to mars is essentially completely useless. theres nothing beneficial to export back
Apr 23 09:06:22 <tiberiusiv>	human space travel will be limited unless a radically new propulsion system is invented
Apr 23 09:07:38 <tiberiusiv>	spaceX will just be another lame government contractor fulfilling useless jobs ala boeing/locheed
Apr 23 09:07:48 <tiberiusiv>	with next to no real world benefit
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Apr 23 09:08:21 <tiberiusiv>	boeing cant even build a proper commercial airplane anymore
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Apr 23 09:10:50 <Uglux>	130
Apr 23 09:11:23 <Uglux>	crazy buying
Apr 23 09:12:29 <Uglux>	aaand the wall is gone ^^
Apr 23 09:13:07 <jurov>	;;calc 5000000/120
Apr 23 09:13:07 <gribble>	41666.6666667
Apr 23 09:13:45 <jurov>	5m fiat surplus flowing into gox means over 40k bitcoins sold every day
Apr 23 09:13:51 <jurov>	i call bs on that
Apr 23 09:14:02 <tiberiusiv>	no it doesnt mean that
Apr 23 09:14:10 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 23 09:14:11 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.00001, Best ask: 132.33000, Bid-ask spread: 0.32999, Last trade: 132.33000, 24 hour volume: 68849.89326207, 24 hour low: 120.10010, 24 hour high: 132.20000, 24 hour vwap: 126.37223
Apr 23 09:14:13 <tiberiusiv>	it doesnt mean people are buying right away jurov
Apr 23 09:14:14 <jurov>	unless most investors are waiting
Apr 23 09:14:24 <jurov>	and that's not believeable either
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Apr 23 09:23:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1290 @ 0.00073 = 0.9417 BTC [+]
Apr 23 09:23:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00073157 = 2.7068 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 09:25:07 <pizzaman1337>	;;bids 0
Apr 23 09:25:08 <gribble>	There are currently 29923419 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 23113384.2464 USD in total. | Data vintage: 52.5510 seconds
Apr 23 09:26:48 <Bugpowda>	still building
Apr 23 09:26:55 <Bugpowda>	all that buying was new bids
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Apr 23 09:31:29 <blkchnisFXCKED>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Apr 23 09:31:30 <blkchnisFXCKED>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Apr 23 09:31:30 <blkchnisFXCKED>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Apr 23 09:31:30 <blkchnisFXCKED>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Apr 23 09:31:30 <blkchnisFXCKED>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Apr 23 09:31:31 <blkchnisFXCKED>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
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Apr 23 09:31:53 <Scrat>	pwnt
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Apr 23 09:33:02 <blokchn>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Apr 23 09:33:03 <blokchn>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Apr 23 09:33:03 <blokchn>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Apr 23 09:33:04 <blokchn>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Apr 23 09:33:04 <blokchn>	anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Apr 23 09:33:20 <Scrat>	blokchn: fuck your face
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Apr 23 09:35:41 <tiberiusiv>	fuck off nigger
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Apr 23 09:37:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2110 @ 0.00073762 = 1.5564 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 09:42:57 <Uglux>	;;goxlag
Apr 23 09:42:58 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.219795 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00244445552249 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
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Apr 23 09:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.2999 = 7.4975 BTC [-]
Apr 23 09:45:01 <kakobrekla>	!l m s.dice
Apr 23 09:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 41 @ 0.2991 = 12.2631 BTC [-]
Apr 23 09:45:03 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00265301 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 09:54:59 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 23 09:55:01 <gribble>	There are currently 57757.774 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 9207135.54396 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0051 seconds
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Apr 23 09:58:02 <pnkvbz>	Upgrading gigamining to teramining: is it worth it?
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Apr 23 09:59:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 10:00:25 <Uglux>	http://www.cryptopixel.com/ why the hell...
Apr 23 10:00:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.168 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 10:01:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16301 BTC [-]
Apr 23 10:01:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.163 BTC [-]
Apr 23 10:02:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.16 = 2.32 BTC [-]
Apr 23 10:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.295 = 7.375 BTC [-]
Apr 23 10:04:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9503 @ 0.00071953 = 6.8377 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 10:17:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6240 @ 0.00072327 = 4.5132 BTC [+]
Apr 23 10:17:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3910 @ 0.00073 = 2.8543 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 10:24:42 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoin is old news now http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/23/4252808/can-zerocoin-and-ripple-build-a-better-bitcoin
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Apr 23 10:36:09 <thestringpuller>	who cares about ripple?
Apr 23 10:36:11 <thestringpuller>	ugh
Apr 23 10:41:45 <TomServo>	Isn't ripple sort of a distributed exchange?
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Apr 23 10:47:14 *	Received a CTCP VERSION from oxcon (to #bitcoin-assets)
Apr 23 10:47:21 *	Received a CTCP TIME from oxcon (to #bitcoin-assets)
Apr 23 10:47:27 *	Received a CTCP PING 1366728444 from oxcon (to #bitcoin-assets)
Apr 23 10:47:30 <jurov>	ripple is supposed to be used to buy/sell personal credit
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Apr 23 10:50:16 <jurov>	and its creators are trying to make sure it doesn't stray from their plans by holding huge stash
Apr 23 10:50:42 <jurov>	that's all i know
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Apr 23 10:56:32 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 50
Apr 23 10:56:32 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.6769 seconds
Apr 23 10:56:40 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 23 10:56:41 <gribble>	There are currently 200891.07 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 16807697.8497 USD in total. | Data vintage: 85.5081 seconds
Apr 23 10:57:21 <tiberiusiv>	how is bitcoin an ailing currency?
Apr 23 10:57:39 <tiberiusiv>	ripple is debt based its completely different premise
Apr 23 10:58:28 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 100
Apr 23 10:58:31 <gribble>	There are currently 65975.845 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 7804157.02725 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0080 seconds
Apr 23 10:58:36 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 23 10:58:37 <gribble>	There are currently 55664.129 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 8974006.92163 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.4764 seconds
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Apr 23 11:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.299 = 5.382 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 11:04:24 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 23 11:04:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.45000, Best ask: 136.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 136.80000, 24 hour volume: 84182.26967231, 24 hour low: 120.33333, 24 hour high: 137.68860, 24 hour vwap: 128.36205
Apr 23 11:04:33 <kakobrekla>	gimme back 120
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Apr 23 11:11:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00069882 = 4.2977 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 11:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4969 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 11:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.29899999 = 1.495 BTC [-]
Apr 23 11:16:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00293321 = 1.4666 BTC [+]
Apr 23 11:18:08 <MJR_>	you here bugpowder?
Apr 23 11:18:38 <Bugpowder>	yah
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Apr 23 11:40:32 <jcpham>	http://www.paymentssource.com/news/isos-that-work-with-marijuana-dispensaries-risk-getting-burned-3013891-1.html
Apr 23 11:44:39 <troc>	;;bids 0
Apr 23 11:44:39 <gribble>	There are currently 30778230 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 23022552.3573 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.3272 seconds
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Apr 23 11:45:36 <Populus>	I know I've made bets on bitbet. I'd like to know which ones though. I've forgotten!
Apr 23 11:45:48 <Populus>	Is there a way to search for a wallet ID to know what bets the wallet is involved with?
Apr 23 11:45:51 <kakobrekla>	you can search by address
Apr 23 11:46:07 <bitesak>	;;ticker
Apr 23 11:46:08 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.18809, Best ask: 135.45886, Bid-ask spread: 0.27077, Last trade: 135.00000, 24 hour volume: 88119.49556709, 24 hour low: 121.70000, 24 hour high: 137.68860, 24 hour vwap: 128.92758
Apr 23 11:46:37 <Populus>	cool, probably should have tried before asking. thanks
Apr 23 11:47:04 <kakobrekla>	you should be able to see preset "keyword, address" in the search field
Apr 23 11:47:49 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/1P/Iz/36fP5LiD/search.png
Apr 23 11:48:10 <kakobrekla>	you can combine
Apr 23 11:48:17 <kakobrekla>	both
Apr 23 11:48:34 <kakobrekla>	like "1something BFL"
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Apr 23 11:56:18 <jurov>	one of these new sorely needed btc services: http://thefuckingbitcoin.com/
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Apr 23 12:00:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15021 BTC [-]
Apr 23 12:00:34 <punkman1>	"Data via Mt.Gox Streaming API / Reverse forecast averages pulled out of my ass"
Apr 23 12:00:41 <punkman1>	heh
Apr 23 12:03:35 <ChaangNoi>	can is alive:)
Apr 23 12:03:35 <ChaangNoi>	chan
Apr 23 12:05:22 <jurov>	yea, nobody was killed in romania
Apr 23 12:05:32 <jurov>	or kidnapped
Apr 23 12:12:34 <deadweasel>	hopefully you had some fun too?
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Apr 23 12:15:32 <jurov>	ofc we had
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Apr 23 12:16:14 <jurov>	plus i had some unplanned excursion after boarding wrong train
Apr 23 12:16:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 65 @ 0.016499 = 1.0724 BTC [+]
Apr 23 12:17:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0165 = 1.65 BTC [+]
Apr 23 12:17:50 <kakobrekla>	omg jurov what happend with the train
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Apr 23 12:19:56 <jurov>	the budapest-bucharest trains in both directions met in timisoara with departures 5 minutes apart
Apr 23 12:20:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.017 = 0.85 BTC [+]
Apr 23 12:21:10 <jurov>	and the table was easy to misread (arrivals/departures labeled only in romanian)
Apr 23 12:21:17 <jurov>	so me and an older hungarian lady got into wrong one
Apr 23 12:22:05 <jurov>	and went off next stop, she knew romanian so not a big problem
Apr 23 12:22:22 <jurov>	just had to wait 2 hrs and get back...
Apr 23 12:22:59 <jurov>	then i found by chance a nice hostel in timisoara, a family house complete with dogs and cat
Apr 23 12:23:36 <jurov>	ideal to calm my nerves :)
Apr 23 12:24:07 <kakobrekla>	:D
Apr 23 12:24:19 <kakobrekla>	well at least it worked out ok in the end
Apr 23 12:24:27 <jurov>	only that the cat preferred to lay on my notebook's psu instead of near me. such a bitch
Apr 23 12:25:49 <jurov>	:)
Apr 23 12:25:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11573 @ 0.00069882 = 8.0874 BTC [-]
Apr 23 12:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4777 @ 0.00068337 = 3.2645 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 12:26:44 <jurov>	oh and the mobile internet (alhough slow) never dropped even in middle of nowhere. amazing.
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Apr 23 12:30:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00069956 = 1.1893 BTC [+]
Apr 23 12:30:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13842 @ 0.00070646 = 9.7788 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 12:34:51 <Aurigae1>	hey guys, what are the most interesting ventures in bitcoin world, i have browsed a bit on bitcoin stocks but most seem blatantly overvalued on marketcap.
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Apr 23 12:36:37 <FabianB_>	this channel
Apr 23 12:36:48 <Aurigae1>	?
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Apr 23 12:38:49 <leotreasure>	Asicminer
Apr 23 12:39:18 <leotreasure>	Satoshi Dice
Apr 23 12:39:40 <leotreasure>	Mpex
Apr 23 12:40:14 <leotreasure>	BitBet
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Apr 23 12:50:09 <Aurigae1>	satoshi has a marcet cap of 7'K as i calculated, gotta check the books tough
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Apr 23 12:50:18 <Aurigae1>	700k
Apr 23 12:50:59 <kakobrekla>	more to come!
Apr 23 12:50:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6255 @ 0.00071222 = 4.4549 BTC [+]
Apr 23 12:51:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2595 @ 0.00071733 = 1.8615 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 12:59:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00071733 = 0.5739 BTC [+]
Apr 23 13:01:46 *	valparaiso is now known as valparaiso_afk
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Apr 23 13:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 20 @ 1.33 = 26.6 BTC [-]
Apr 23 13:07:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 720 @ 0.000695 = 0.5004 BTC [+]
Apr 23 13:08:07 <thestringpuller>	ls
Apr 23 13:08:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC [+]
Apr 23 13:08:49 *	valparaiso_afk is now known as valparaiso
Apr 23 13:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.821 BTC [+]
Apr 23 13:09:08 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 23 13:10:05 <thestringpuller>	!ticker
Apr 23 13:10:06 <assbot>	It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money.
Apr 23 13:10:11 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m s.mpoe
Apr 23 13:10:13 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067618 / 0.0006985 / 0.00073762 (402728 shares, 281.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00067618 / 0.00070449 / 0.00073891 (2496216 shares, 1,758.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068429 / 0.00073891 (10074634 shares, 6,894.07 BTC)
Apr 23 13:10:21 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^oix
Apr 23 13:10:23 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  /  /  ( shares,  BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 23 13:10:29 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Apr 23 13:10:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 24 @ 0.00355 = 0.0852 BTC [-]
Apr 23 13:10:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 26 @ 0.00379 = 0.0985 BTC [+]
Apr 23 13:15:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.437 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 13:17:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17343 @ 0.00070979 = 12.3099 BTC [-]
Apr 23 13:19:33 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 23 13:19:45 <MJR_>	ap twitter feed was hacked
Apr 23 13:19:46 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 23 13:21:48 <MJR_>	that was crazy
Apr 23 13:22:13 <MJR_>	they tweeted that there were two explosions in the white house and obama was injured
Apr 23 13:22:23 <MJR_>	dow fell like 150 points before snapping back
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Apr 23 13:23:52 <kakobrekla>	lol wtf
Apr 23 13:23:56 <kakobrekla>	for real?
Apr 23 13:23:57 <mod6>	wow
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Apr 23 13:26:06 <mod6>	yea, thats what CNBC says: http://www.cnbc.com/id/100664423
Apr 23 13:26:33 <benkay>	good old tightly coupled systems
Apr 23 13:26:53 <benkay>	good old traders, looking for the info-edge
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Apr 23 13:29:08 <mod6>	here's the beat down in a chart: https://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI%2CINDEXSP%3A.INX%2CINDEXNASDAQ%3A.IXIC&ei=DcR2UcjbLYWOqgHYUg&hl=en
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Apr 23 13:32:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 823 @ 0.00068337 = 0.5624 BTC [-]
Apr 23 13:32:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14226 @ 0.00068284 = 9.7141 BTC [-]
Apr 23 13:32:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1766 @ 0.00067862 = 1.1984 BTC [-]
Apr 23 13:34:36 <iz>	lol
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Apr 23 13:39:29 <MJR_>	was crazy moves
Apr 23 13:39:44 <mod6>	http://www.nanex.net/aqck2/4176.html << ZAP
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Apr 23 13:45:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.199 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 13:56:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1982 = 0.3964 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 14:00:16 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 23 14:00:16 <gribble>	73851.0847314
Apr 23 14:00:23 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Apr 23 14:01:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 23 14:01:13 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 232776 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1079 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 14 hours, 52 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9669629.13619 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.74805
Apr 23 14:02:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.0975 = 0.39 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 14:11:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000631 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:11:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3407 @ 0.00067862 = 2.3121 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:11:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1593 @ 0.00067861 = 1.081 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 14:14:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1603 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 14:21:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.157 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:22:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.150221 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:22:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15022 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:22:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1502 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:22:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15001 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:23:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.15001 = 3.45 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:23:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15001 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 14:25:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.14101 = 4.564 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:28:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00068496 = 2.5344 BTC [+]
Apr 23 14:30:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.43701 = 2.1851 BTC [+]
Apr 23 14:31:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.437 = 0.874 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:32:53 <MJR_>	;;next
Apr 23 14:32:54 <gribble>	\*AWAY UNTIL April 28\*  resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 days, 0 hours, 32 minutes, and 52 seconds ago
Apr 23 14:32:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:34:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 36 @ 0.0055 = 0.198 BTC [+]
Apr 23 14:35:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 23 14:37:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15022 BTC [+]
Apr 23 14:37:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.150221 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 14:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.291 = 1.455 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 14:51:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00070085 = 0.5397 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 14:55:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 450 @ 0.0014 = 0.63 BTC [-]
Apr 23 14:55:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 550 @ 0.0014 = 0.77 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 14:57:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1982 = 0.5946 BTC [+]
Apr 23 14:57:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0975 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 15:01:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.017 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 15:03:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0055 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 15:05:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.2 = 10.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 15:23:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00070052 = 8.1961 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 15:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.86 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 15:59:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.142 BTC [-]
Apr 23 16:00:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1415 = 2.283 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 16:12:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10112 @ 0.00068953 = 6.9725 BTC [-]
Apr 23 16:12:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3458 @ 0.00067862 = 2.3467 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 16:24:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00067862 = 2.8841 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 16:34:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000698 = 0.0209 BTC [+]
Apr 23 16:34:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 16:35:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [+]
Apr 23 16:36:26 <aneesh>	Anybody that trades BTC settled USD futures?
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Apr 23 16:39:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.41101 = 1.233 BTC [-]
Apr 23 16:39:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.411 BTC [-]
Apr 23 16:40:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.40701 = 2.0351 BTC [-]
Apr 23 16:40:47 <kakobrekla>	aneesh?
Apr 23 16:41:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.407 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 16:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.87 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 16:42:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.196999 BTC [+]
Apr 23 16:42:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.197 BTC [+]
Apr 23 16:43:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19898 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 16:50:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4389 BTC [+]
Apr 23 16:50:15 <mod6>	;;ticker
Apr 23 16:50:17 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.80000, Best ask: 139.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 139.80000, 24 hour volume: 95450.29604973, 24 hour low: 124.97000, 24 hour high: 139.81000, 24 hour vwap: 131.93442
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Apr 23 16:54:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00068389 = 4.7872 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 17:08:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1982 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 17:10:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
Apr 23 17:11:15 <deadweasel>	bless you
Apr 23 17:11:44 <truffles>	hello deadweasel
Apr 23 17:12:18 <deadweasel>	hey truffles
Apr 23 17:12:37 <deadweasel>	what about this fucking price?  makes no sense.
Apr 23 17:12:49 <truffles>	;;bids 160
Apr 23 17:12:52 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 160.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0057 seconds
Apr 23 17:12:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00379 BTC [+]
Apr 23 17:13:01 <deadweasel>	not there yet
Apr 23 17:13:07 <truffles>	whats wrong with price
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Apr 23 17:14:37 <deadweasel>	just wondering who is buying it all.  is it you?
Apr 23 17:14:53 <truffles>	im never buying over 10 usd
Apr 23 17:15:06 <MJR_>	;;ticker
Apr 23 17:15:07 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.47161, Best ask: 141.18999, Bid-ask spread: 0.71838, Last trade: 141.19000, 24 hour volume: 100722.28543688, 24 hour low: 124.97000, 24 hour high: 142.48750, 24 hour vwap: 132.67953
Apr 23 17:16:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.0165 = 0.0495 BTC [-]
Apr 23 17:17:23 <truffles>	i just watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLjlOw3TVc8 this guy eats well id wager
Apr 23 17:17:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1982 = 0.3964 BTC [+]
Apr 23 17:17:57 <truffles>	Mark Karpeles i mean
Apr 23 17:18:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
Apr 23 17:18:47 <truffles>	i recall asking if you can buy apples with bitcoin, wonder if thats changed by now
Apr 23 17:19:16 <truffles>	groccery not the pc
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Apr 23 17:52:24 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 23 17:52:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.31501, Best ask: 139.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.68498, Last trade: 139.31501, 24 hour volume: 103242.27631667, 24 hour low: 124.97000, 24 hour high: 142.48750, 24 hour vwap: 133.14191
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Apr 23 18:07:58 <jborkl_>	;;ticker
Apr 23 18:07:59 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.01901, Best ask: 143.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.90099, Last trade: 143.92000, 24 hour volume: 105875.88906638, 24 hour low: 124.97000, 24 hour high: 143.00000, 24 hour vwap: 133.42108
Apr 23 18:08:03 <jborkl_>	breakout
Apr 23 18:10:12 <FabianB_>	;;bc,convert eur
Apr 23 18:10:13 <gribble>	1 BTC = 143.92000 U.S. dollars = 110.852653 Euros
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Apr 23 18:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3033 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 18:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.49701111 = 3.9761 BTC [+]
Apr 23 18:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4973 = 1.4919 BTC [+]
Apr 23 18:31:27 <pizzaman1337>	lol, Ron Paul on Bitcoin "I admit, I do not fully understand what is going on with it."
Apr 23 18:31:31 <pizzaman1337>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-23/ron-paul-bitcoin-if-i-cant-put-it-my-pocket-i-have-reservations
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Apr 23 18:35:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1982 = 0.5946 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 18:38:55 <kakobrekla>	ya well
Apr 23 18:38:57 <kakobrekla>	old people
Apr 23 18:39:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00068176 = 7.6016 BTC [-]
Apr 23 18:39:02 <kakobrekla>	nothing you can do.
Apr 23 18:39:14 <dub>	he's tired like bill cosby
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Apr 23 18:46:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 601 @ 0.00067862 = 0.4079 BTC [-]
Apr 23 18:46:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6321 @ 0.00067861 = 4.2895 BTC [-]
Apr 23 18:46:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5628 @ 0.00067783 = 3.8148 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 18:49:46 <deadweasel>	god dammit ron paul
Apr 23 18:53:17 <asciilifeform>	http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-rationale-behind-boston-psy-ops.html
Apr 23 18:54:35 <MJR_>	what'd ron paul do?
Apr 23 18:54:55 <kakobrekla>	00:31.26 ( pizzaman1337 ) lol, Ron Paul on Bitcoin "I admit, I do not fully understand what is going on with it."
Apr 23 18:54:56 <kakobrekla>	00:31.31 ( pizzaman1337 ) http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-23/ron-paul-bitcoin-if-i-cant-put-it-my-pocket-i-have-reservations
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Apr 23 19:06:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
Apr 23 19:07:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4973 BTC [+]
Apr 23 19:10:02 <benkay>	the nice thing about ron paul is that he's willing to say "i don't know"
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Apr 23 19:17:24 <ThickAsThieves>	admirable indeed
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Apr 23 19:22:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1294 @ 0.00067783 = 0.8771 BTC [-]
Apr 23 19:22:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3306 @ 0.00067594 = 2.2347 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 19:25:37 <ThickAsThieves>	oh geez wtf is a feathercoin
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Apr 23 19:26:31 <Diablo-D3>	http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=7849&to=7850
Apr 23 19:26:42 <truffles>	how much bitcoin can u get with them id like to know
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Apr 23 19:27:55 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178286.0
Apr 23 19:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.87 = 3.74 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 19:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4973 = 0.9946 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 19:32:00 <truffles>	doesnt say its value
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Apr 23 19:46:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1998 BTC [-]
Apr 23 19:47:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1999 BTC [+]
Apr 23 19:47:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.2 = 9.6 BTC [+]
Apr 23 19:47:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.2 = 10.8 BTC [+]
Apr 23 19:47:31 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 452.55335592 * [ticker --last]
Apr 23 19:47:32 <gribble>	64715.1298966
Apr 23 19:48:06 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 452.55335592 * 500
Apr 23 19:48:07 <gribble>	226276.67796
Apr 23 19:48:23 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175413.msg1925482#msg1925482
Apr 23 19:48:27 <mircea_popescu>	i guess you win ?
Apr 23 19:51:18 <Bugpowder>	lol
Apr 23 19:51:19 <Bugpowder>	oh man
Apr 23 19:52:31 <mircea_popescu>	the true reason bitcoin shot from two to three digits
Apr 23 19:52:44 <mircea_popescu>	is that we've managed to switch from a drama powered to a drama-and-comedy-gold powered model.
Apr 23 19:53:41 <Bugpowder>	I am sure Mark's build and voice are playing into this rally
Apr 23 19:54:25 <Bugpowder>	Augustus Gloop
Apr 23 19:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	this "Synthetic Commodity Money" "paper" is singurarly ignorant/uninformed/unscientific/laughable and ridiculous
Apr 23 19:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	sometimes i wonder if humanities departments have ever read an actual scientific paper.
Apr 23 19:55:22 <Bugpowder>	I haven't read the paper.
Apr 23 19:56:27 <mircea_popescu>	well... ok, formally : it contains no tables and a total of 3 figures in 28 pages. the third is a 100px wide rendition of the "bitcoin supply schedule" in 6 data points.
Apr 23 19:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	the 2nd is a 100px wide rendition of the "swiss dinar"/usd rate
Apr 23 19:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	(ie, the iraq pre-1990 currency)
Apr 23 19:57:36 <Bugpowder>	Academic papers on bitcoin don't make sense to me.  If you had actually figured out something of value, why wouldn't you just try to profit from it
Apr 23 19:57:49 <Bugpowder>	Unless you already have positioned yourself I guess
Apr 23 19:57:51 <mircea_popescu>	they could be descriptive and that'd be fine
Apr 23 19:57:53 <Bugpowder>	or you are broke
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Apr 23 19:58:03 <Bugpowder>	probably most are broke
Apr 23 19:58:29 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: is there a cabal that are manipulating bitcoin prices?
Apr 23 19:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	not rly.
Apr 23 19:58:57 <Diablo-D3>	damn.
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Apr 23 20:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4973 = 0.9946 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 20:07:00 <truffles>	some people who are naturally curious about the world around us dont consider money a motivator
Apr 23 20:08:08 <Diablo-D3>	truffles: Im that kind of people
Apr 23 20:08:23 <truffles>	ure very rare sir
Apr 23 20:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	so there's not one but actually two different doods doing a bitcoin pixel page + bitcoin gem thing
Apr 23 20:09:28 <mircea_popescu>	and they're both equally incapable of reading comprehension.
Apr 23 20:09:49 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if it actually is the same dood with a split personality.
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Apr 23 20:11:08 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: re: USA: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-rationale-behind-boston-psy-ops.html
Apr 23 20:11:41 <mircea_popescu>	"Under the thinnest of pretenses, Boston was placed under martial law, with heavily armed troops patrolling the streets, pointing machine guns at civilians who dared so much as to look out their windows."
Apr 23 20:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	that was some small sattelite town neh ?
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Apr 23 20:13:15 <Scrat>	murca
Apr 23 20:16:42 <Diablo-D3>	12 million devcoin auction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=185897.0
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Apr 23 20:17:26 <kakobrekla>	what does one do with those?
Apr 23 20:17:37 <marcopolo_>	worship
Apr 23 20:17:52 <truffles>	with what?
Apr 23 20:18:15 <kakobrekla>	devilcoin from diablo
Apr 23 20:18:31 <Scrat>	[02:27] <ThickAsThieves> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178286.0
Apr 23 20:18:33 <Scrat>	fuck is this
Apr 23 20:18:45 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: its used to donate to open source projects
Apr 23 20:18:46 <truffles>	oh
Apr 23 20:18:47 <Scrat>	dude does a verbatim copy of litecoin and it gets 50 pages of replies in a week?
Apr 23 20:18:53 <Scrat>	lol...
Apr 23 20:18:59 <kakobrekla>	donate them then
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Apr 23 20:19:18 <mircea_popescu>	" Litecoin being as mature as it is makes it hard to join in the fun so let’s start with a new coin that follows Litecoin’s tradition."
Apr 23 20:19:24 <mircea_popescu>	this logic. i don't follow it natively.
Apr 23 20:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	is it for a different neural architecture ?
Apr 23 20:19:32 <truffles>	someone was giving away FC
Apr 23 20:19:46 <truffles>	so maybe they should give more
Apr 23 20:19:49 <asciilifeform>	Scrat: wait till he puts up an exchange and 'feathercoin' starts having a positive cash value... 'a sucker's born every minute, and two to take him,' etc.
Apr 23 20:19:54 <truffles>	100 pages in no time
Apr 23 20:20:05 <Bugpowder>	we need gnatcoin
Apr 23 20:20:11 <Bugpowder>	picocoin
Apr 23 20:20:33 <truffles>	why the altcoin hate..
Apr 23 20:22:02 <asciilifeform>	truffles: you can use all the altcoin you want, and nobody will hate you. just as nobody hates that guy who sawed off his arms with a chainsaw in a hardware store.
Apr 23 20:22:31 <truffles>	ouch
Apr 23 20:23:01 <asciilifeform>	altcoins are a mechanism for siphoning value from chumps, strictly of the volunteer variety. Sort of like SDICE.
Apr 23 20:23:23 <truffles>	haha
Apr 23 20:23:25 <Scrat>	well, lets take advantage of it?
Apr 23 20:23:27 <Diablo-D3>	Im hoping that btc reaches 500
Apr 23 20:23:28 <Scrat>	assetcoin
Apr 23 20:23:29 <Scrat>	asscoin
Apr 23 20:23:39 <Diablo-D3>	then I'll be able to afford to start dmc 2.0
Apr 23 20:23:40 <mircea_popescu>	i have a completely abstract altchain. nobody mines on it, nobody owns any coins, nobody bothers to read the codebase (which doesn't actually exist in written form anywhere)
Apr 23 20:23:53 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: SlaveCoin?
Apr 23 20:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	but since userbase minerbase coderbase etc aren't the criteria by which we judge altcoins...
Apr 23 20:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	mine is just as good as all the others.
Apr 23 20:24:18 <mod6>	haha
Apr 23 20:24:35 <mircea_popescu>	mental experiment ftw.
Apr 23 20:25:49 <asciilifeform>	not that it is physically impossible to steal Bitcoin's Schelling Point status, but you would have to actually add something astonishingly interesting, vs. merely swapping out the genesis block and finding a catchy name.
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Apr 23 20:25:53 <Bugpowder>	y not asscoin? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO1Q7F23DxM
Apr 23 20:26:59 <asciilifeform>	I'm especially amused at the altcoin authors who add demurrage/inflation. Because clearly, everybody loves money that rots away.
Apr 23 20:27:00 <mircea_popescu>	nobody has yet found a catchy name.
Apr 23 20:27:17 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform kruger'd use it.
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Apr 23 20:27:47 <mircea_popescu>	or i mean krugman. or what's the monkey;s name
Apr 23 20:27:54 <Namworld>	[20:23] <mircea_popescu> i have a completely abstract altchain. nobody mines on it, nobody owns any coins, nobody bothers to read the codebase (which doesn't actually exist in written form anywhere)
Apr 23 20:28:09 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: if by "use" you mean "try to force others to use at gunpoint", then perhaps.
Apr 23 20:28:15 <Namworld>	That
Apr 23 20:28:54 <mircea_popescu>	i thot guns were bad mmkay.
Apr 23 20:29:22 <asciilifeform>	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-50mdxj627-g/UXV1m9uPK2I/AAAAAAAAEd0/vW7MgT1U4PA/s1600/police-state.jpg
Apr 23 20:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	stop racistly holding the president's baseless/meaningless generalisations against him!
Apr 23 20:33:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-23/ap-reports-two-explosions-white-house-obama-injured
Apr 23 20:33:18 <mircea_popescu>	this is kinda lulzy.
Apr 23 20:33:43 <mircea_popescu>	"we've been hacked" = "we're retarded and don't understand anything about computers, the internet or security"
Apr 23 20:34:39 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: "we've been hacked" = "somebody on the staff knew exactly when to short a bunch of stocks."
Apr 23 20:34:55 <mircea_popescu>	eh get out
Apr 23 20:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	nobody cares what "the press" says since about 2006 or so
Apr 23 20:35:34 <asciilifeform>	evidently a bunch of algo traders' idiot code does indeed care.
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Apr 23 20:35:57 <asciilifeform>	the crash happened within seconds, not hours
Apr 23 20:36:29 <mircea_popescu>	i'd proposed the events are thoroughly unrelated.
Apr 23 20:37:00 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: maybe this time, but not the next.
Apr 23 20:49:43 <truffles>	hmmm
Apr 23 20:52:54 <jborkl_>	slush got hacked
Apr 23 20:53:06 <kakobrekla>	huh?
Apr 23 20:53:15 <Bugpowder>	plenty of trade algos scan twitter to drive their engine these days
Apr 23 20:53:28 <Bugpowder>	I assume
Apr 23 20:53:31 <jborkl_>	slush got hacked .took down the pool and servers
Apr 23 20:53:35 <Bugpowder>	The idea has been aroudn for years
Apr 23 20:53:38 <jborkl_>	wallet
Apr 23 20:53:50 <Bugpowder>	would not be suprising if it was algo driven
Apr 23 20:57:15 <asciilifeform>	Bugpowder: the correction was probably algo-driven as well, considering the speed.
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Apr 23 20:58:23 <asciilifeform>	"IF twitter(whitehouse exploded) THEN short" is as easy to write as "IF twitter(whitehouse exploded) THEN dump"
Apr 23 20:58:27 <jborkl_>	smoeone at GS had a new Ferrari to buy
Apr 23 20:59:09 <jborkl_>	well maybe a new yacht
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Apr 23 21:02:08 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl_ link ?
Apr 23 21:04:31 <Scrat>	slush got owned by OVH (or so he claims) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg1925445#msg1925445
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Apr 23 21:10:53 <mircea_popescu>	insider job huh
Apr 23 21:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4975 = 4.975 BTC [+]
Apr 23 21:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4975 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 21:22:21 <mircea_popescu>	poor slush.
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Apr 23 21:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.4974955 = 12.4374 BTC [-]
Apr 23 21:34:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00068028 = 3.7415 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 21:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.4974955 = 12.4374 BTC [-]
Apr 23 21:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4975 = 1.99 BTC [+]
Apr 23 21:41:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4975 = 1.4925 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 21:51:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3128 @ 0.00067594 = 2.1143 BTC [-]
Apr 23 21:52:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13973 @ 0.00067352 = 9.4111 BTC [-]
Apr 23 21:52:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00066835 = 10.9609 BTC [-]
Apr 23 21:52:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00066267 = 1.4579 BTC [-]
Apr 23 21:52:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00065959 = 6.9257 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 21:57:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1982 BTC [+]
Apr 23 21:59:24 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stat
Apr 23 21:59:25 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 23 21:59:25 <gribble>	Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
Apr 23 21:59:29 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 232839 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1016 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 22 hours, 35 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9780242.39957 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.98061
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Apr 23 22:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8003 BTC [-]
Apr 23 22:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4502 BTC [-]
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Apr 23 22:19:10 <kakobrekla>	zhoutong now likes mpex
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Apr 23 22:20:47 <kakobrekla>	he is also accepting donations for his future bitcoin projects.
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Apr 23 22:34:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22888 BTC [+]
Apr 23 22:36:24 <dub>	yeah lol
Apr 23 22:36:53 <dub>	and unfortunatly lost touch with his imaginary friend
Apr 23 22:40:02 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 452.55335592 * [ticker --last]
Apr 23 22:40:05 <gribble>	64527.6596689
Apr 23 22:40:08 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker --last
Apr 23 22:40:08 <gribble>	142.58575
Apr 23 22:44:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 22:47:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22889 BTC [+]
Apr 23 22:48:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1982 = 0.3964 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 23:20:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3399 @ 0.00065893 = 2.2397 BTC [-]
Apr 23 23:20:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9801 @ 0.00065934 = 6.4622 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 23:21:34 <kakobrekla>	test
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Apr 23 23:23:08 <kakobrekla>	test
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Apr 23 23:25:04 <kakobrekla>	test
Apr 23 23:25:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:25:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 23:25:55 <kakobrekla>	ops.
Apr 23 23:26:00 <thestringpuller>	WTF?
Apr 23 23:26:10 <kakobrekla>	twas 1 trade
Apr 23 23:26:10 <thestringpuller>	...
Apr 23 23:26:16 <ColdHardMetal>	yeah, that's odd
Apr 23 23:26:34 <kakobrekla>	ya im fixing one thing and broke another
Apr 23 23:26:42 <ColdHardMetal>	such is life.
Apr 23 23:27:13 <thestringpuller>	stop breaking things kakobrekla
Apr 23 23:27:16 <thestringpuller>	I mean mircea_popescu
Apr 23 23:27:23 <thestringpuller>	since you guys switch places every week
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Apr 23 23:29:36 <kakobrekla>	oh well im retarded is all.
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Apr 23 23:32:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:32:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:32:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
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Apr 23 23:32:29 <thestringpuller>	hahaha
Apr 23 23:32:34 <kakobrekla>	told ya
Apr 23 23:32:35 <thestringpuller>	"okay take it offline"
Apr 23 23:34:34 <kakobrekla>	meh
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Apr 23 23:34:47 <kakobrekla>	ill finish tomorrow, its too late
Apr 23 23:34:58 <thestringpuller>	if it ain't broke don't fix it
Apr 23 23:35:01 <thestringpuller>	what time is it there
Apr 23 23:35:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7359 @ 0.00065934 = 4.8521 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:35:03 <thestringpuller>	like 5am?
Apr 23 23:35:09 <kakobrekla>	5.35
Apr 23 23:35:23 <thestringpuller>	you mean it's too early?
Apr 23 23:35:49 <kakobrekla>	both
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Apr 23 23:39:02 <thestringpuller>	this kind of rules: http://thefuckingbitcoin.com/
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Apr 23 23:41:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8002 BTC [-]
Apr 23 23:41:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.80020001 BTC [+]
Apr 23 23:42:28 <thestringpuller>	PANIC SELL
Apr 23 23:42:30 <thestringpuller>	PANIC SELL
Apr 23 23:42:31 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Apr 23 23:56:06 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder Bugpowder Bugpowder
Apr 23 23:56:31 <Bugpowder>	beetlejuice
Apr 23 23:56:39 <Bugpowder>	price action is redic
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Apr 23 23:59:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 69 @ 0.00351 = 0.2422 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 00:20:23 <thestringpuller>	I'm glad you got my reference Bugpowder
Apr 24 00:20:48 <Bugpowder>	I was summond
Apr 24 00:21:11 <thestringpuller>	April '13 vs November '12/December '12 def
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Apr 24 00:21:31 <thestringpuller>	but even Early April '13 vs Late April '13...
Apr 24 00:21:49 <thestringpuller>	Late April being the time we are in now DA PRESENT
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Apr 24 00:24:35 <Bugpowder>	I give up
Apr 24 00:24:45 <Bugpowder>	I made the mistake of trading it
Apr 24 00:24:53 <Bugpowder>	now I'm just holding and sitting tight
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Apr 24 00:44:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.003501 = 0.3501 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 00:59:28 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder Bugpowder Bugpowder !
Apr 24 00:59:30 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 24 00:59:34 <Bugpowder>	sup
Apr 24 00:59:36 <thestringpuller>	which way is the price going to go?
Apr 24 00:59:37 <thestringpuller>	XD
Apr 24 00:59:42 <Bugpowder>	I am all in
Apr 24 00:59:44 <thestringpuller>	You are the price oracle
Apr 24 00:59:52 <thestringpuller>	So when will it fall again?
Apr 24 00:59:55 <Bugpowder>	uhhh
Apr 24 01:00:03 <Bugpowder>	either soon, or later
Apr 24 01:00:20 <Bugpowder>	if we hit 149.9, we go thru though
Apr 24 01:00:22 <Bugpowder>	I think
Apr 24 01:00:23 <thestringpuller>	Bulls use media blitz to increase price, bears used ddos to sell down
Apr 24 01:00:34 <thestringpuller>	what will bears us next?
Apr 24 01:00:37 <Bugpowder>	Bulls use ddos to buy dips
Apr 24 01:00:49 <thestringpuller>	Yah.
Apr 24 01:01:01 <Bugpowder>	I got filled at 111 on the last ddos, was sweet
Apr 24 01:01:07 <thestringpuller>	Me too!
Apr 24 01:01:09 <thestringpuller>	I got 110
Apr 24 01:01:12 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 24 01:01:27 <thestringpuller>	i've been throwing orders into campbx via python terminals
Apr 24 01:03:03 <Bugpowder>	kewl
Apr 24 01:03:11 <Bugpowder>	I should set goxtool up
Apr 24 01:03:32 <thestringpuller>	you trade through the site?
Apr 24 01:03:32 <Bugpowder>	though TBH the best strat really would have been to buy and hold
Apr 24 01:03:36 <thestringpuller>	that's horrendous...
Apr 24 01:03:41 <Bugpowder>	yes
Apr 24 01:03:46 <Bugpowder>	I am dumb
Apr 24 01:03:56 <thestringpuller>	but you make so much money on your strats
Apr 24 01:04:01 <thestringpuller>	you is da warren buffet of bitcoin
Apr 24 01:04:04 <thestringpuller>	(early years)
Apr 24 01:04:51 <Bugpowder>	I would have made more if I had just sat on my buys at 52 and 51.
Apr 24 01:04:56 <Bugpowder>	much more
Apr 24 01:05:05 <Bugpowder>	trading is stupid
Apr 24 01:05:11 <Bugpowder>	but I'm doing it anyway
Apr 24 01:05:15 <Bugpowder>	cause no options :(
Apr 24 01:06:03 <thestringpuller>	Then wait until next month
Apr 24 01:06:19 <thestringpuller>	Or buy N's and just hold for a long ass time
Apr 24 01:06:28 <Bugpowder>	the price is too high
Apr 24 01:06:32 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 24 01:06:34 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  /  /  ( shares,  BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 24 01:06:34 <Bugpowder>	can't make money on them
Apr 24 01:07:12 <thestringpuller>	then sell and take a position to keep the price stable win-win :P
Apr 24 01:07:19 <thestringpuller>	err underwrite
Apr 24 01:07:21 <thestringpuller>	MKOPT yo
Apr 24 01:07:36 <Bugpowder>	mebby
Apr 24 01:08:19 <thestringpuller>	I hate to complain but I was dumb
Apr 24 01:08:32 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 50
Apr 24 01:08:33 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.6290 seconds
Apr 24 01:08:33 <thestringpuller>	and didn't buy back puts as the price fell to hedge my short P80's
Apr 24 01:08:35 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 24 01:08:36 <gribble>	There are currently 184011.53 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 16399606.4212 USD in total. | Data vintage: 57.7002 seconds
Apr 24 01:08:48 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 24 01:08:48 <gribble>	There are currently 51900.191 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 8651680.4235 USD in total. | Data vintage: 70.2018 seconds
Apr 24 01:08:56 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 0
Apr 24 01:08:56 <gribble>	There are currently 33335168 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22625710.7287 USD in total. | Data vintage: 78.1412 seconds
Apr 24 01:09:52 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv is a secret mpex user
Apr 24 01:09:58 <thestringpuller>	that's why he trolls mpex so much
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Apr 24 01:14:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24650 @ 0.00065511 = 16.1485 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 01:21:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.155 = 5.775 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:21:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.150014 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:21:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.150013 = 3.45 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.150013 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.145 = 5.725 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14301 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.142 = 2.284 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.14125 = 2.2825 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14121 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.14105 = 2.2821 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.14101 = 5.7051 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 01:22:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.08051 = 5.4026 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0805 = 2.161 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.0805 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.08 = 16.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 01:22:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.07 = 10.7 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:22:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.05 = 4.2 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:23:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.046 = 5.23 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:23:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.045 = 2.09 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:23:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.03 = 4.12 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:23:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0103 = 2.0206 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:23:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.0002 = 5.001 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:23:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.0001 = 11.0011 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:23:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:26:56 <thestringpuller>	Woot
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Apr 24 01:26:59 <thestringpuller>	buy asic miner!
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Apr 24 01:28:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.3801 = 1.1403 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 01:39:10 <inhies>	yea now is a good time to buy
Apr 24 01:39:17 <inhies>	anyone wanna loan me like .4 btc? :3
Apr 24 01:39:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3801 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:40:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18499 BTC [+]
Apr 24 01:40:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.185 BTC [+]
Apr 24 01:40:44 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating inhies
Apr 24 01:40:44 <gribble>	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
Apr 24 01:40:52 <thestringpuller>	LOL :P
Apr 24 01:41:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.18 = 35.4 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:41:31 <inhies>	im on otc
Apr 24 01:41:33 <inhies>	as inh
Apr 24 01:41:35 <inhies>	i just have to find that key
Apr 24 01:41:41 <inhies>	it was like two years ago
Apr 24 01:41:44 <inhies>	pretty sure i still have it
Apr 24 01:41:56 <thestringpuller>	;;getrating inh
Apr 24 01:41:57 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User inh, rated since Thu May 12 17:15:32 2011. Cumulative rating 19, from 11 total ratings. Received ratings: 10 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 10 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=inh
Apr 24 01:42:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 53 @ 1.18 = 62.54 BTC [-]
Apr 24 01:42:04 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 24 01:42:41 <inhies>	not good enough? :(
Apr 24 01:42:43 *	inhies pouts
Apr 24 01:42:58 <thestringpuller>	I barely have enough btc for myself
Apr 24 01:43:10 <inhies>	its ok i dont really want to deal with a loan anyways
Apr 24 01:43:20 <inhies>	i just want another asic mining share before divs pay out :3
Apr 24 01:43:46 <thestringpuller>	the div is sooo small per share
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Apr 24 01:44:22 <inhies>	thats why every bit help
Apr 24 01:44:24 <inhies>	s
Apr 24 01:44:41 <inhies>	i still get abotu .1 btc when they pay out
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Apr 24 01:44:45 <inhies>	thats not too bad
Apr 24 01:45:26 <thestringpuller>	someone said they were dropping it to .07
Apr 24 01:46:05 <inhies>	:O
Apr 24 01:46:07 <inhies>	well
Apr 24 01:46:18 <inhies>	i meant that in total
Apr 24 01:46:27 <inhies>	like last week i made .11 btc in divs with 16 shares
Apr 24 01:46:42 <thestringpuller>	;;calc .11/16
Apr 24 01:46:43 <gribble>	0.006875
Apr 24 01:46:46 <thestringpuller>	meh
Apr 24 01:46:48 <thestringpuller>	I'll pass
Apr 24 01:46:52 <thestringpuller>	heh
Apr 24 01:46:56 <thestringpuller>	HIM pays out more than that
Apr 24 01:47:05 <inhies>	wassat?
Apr 24 01:47:34 <thestringpuller>	!ticker l HIM
Apr 24 01:47:35 <assbot>	Stupid fucking white man.
Apr 24 01:47:48 <inhies>	oh no you dint assbot
Apr 24 01:48:34 <thestringpuller>	!ticker j HIM
Apr 24 01:48:35 <assbot>	Things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun.
Apr 24 01:48:37 <thestringpuller>	!ticker h HIM
Apr 24 01:48:38 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.80020000 / 1.8364625 / 1.87000000 (8 shares, 14.69170001 BTC), 7D: 1.73000000 / 1.84405223 / 1.94000000 (114 shares, 210.22195372 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.6621414 / 2.08000000 (796 shares, 1323.06455483 BTC)
Apr 24 01:48:41 <thestringpuller>	there you go
Apr 24 01:48:49 <thestringpuller>	pays out .013 I think
Apr 24 01:49:11 <thestringpuller>	goes up every month
Apr 24 01:54:18 <mircea_popescu>	whioa wtf
Apr 24 01:54:32 <inhies>	not bad
Apr 24 01:55:32 <inhies>	can i only buy in to that on the havelock site?
Apr 24 01:55:37 <inhies>	or is there a passtrhough or something?
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Apr 24 02:03:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.15 = 8.05 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 02:05:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13 BTC [-]
Apr 24 02:05:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.13 = 10.17 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 02:13:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.120011 BTC [-]
Apr 24 02:13:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.12 = 4.48 BTC [-]
Apr 24 02:14:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.09 = 6.54 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 02:20:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.09001 = 5.4501 BTC [+]
Apr 24 02:20:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 02:38:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.145 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 03:15:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 83 @ 0.009999 = 0.8299 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 03:33:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14399 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 03:36:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4299 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 03:50:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.15037 BTC [-]
Apr 24 03:51:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.15 = 1.5 BTC [-]
Apr 24 03:51:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 48 @ 0.1447 = 6.9456 BTC [-]
Apr 24 03:52:33 <jurov>	<thestringpuller> tiberiusiv is a secret mpex user <<< i already revealed he does have coinbr acct
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Apr 24 03:55:59 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 24 03:56:00 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.50000, Best ask: 143.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38000, Last trade: 143.88001, 24 hour volume: 134495.47633780, 24 hour low: 126.50000, 24 hour high: 147.98997, 24 hour vwap: 138.87724
Apr 24 03:56:09 <Diablo-D3>	we need to go back up to 250
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Apr 24 04:17:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 04:19:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1982 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 04:27:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15122 @ 0.00065251 = 9.8673 BTC [-]
Apr 24 04:27:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00065133 = 0.8467 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 04:27:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2378 @ 0.00064141 = 1.5253 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 04:35:14 <Namworld>	Diablo-D3, why?
Apr 24 04:35:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [-]
Apr 24 04:36:03 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld: why not?
Apr 24 04:36:47 <Namworld>	Because prices fluctuates wildly.
Apr 24 04:37:03 <Namworld>	It's a real joke.
Apr 24 04:37:16 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 452.55335592  * [ticker --last]
Apr 24 04:37:18 <gribble>	65390.2806717
Apr 24 04:37:20 <Diablo-D3>	thats why.
Apr 24 04:37:25 <Diablo-D3>	its not enough to start DMC 2.0 yet
Apr 24 04:37:36 <Namworld>	Eh, I see
Apr 24 04:37:53 <Scrat>	fuck DMC, start diablocoin
Apr 24 04:39:02 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: why? so I can kill bitcoin?
Apr 24 04:39:28 *	Diablo-D3 listens to 4th Movement - Presto (Symphony No. 9 in D Minor Op. 125 'Choral')
Apr 24 04:40:13 <Scrat>	so we can pump n dump it
Apr 24 04:40:27 <Scrat>	then you can start DMC 2.0 with the proceeds
Apr 24 04:40:43 <Namworld>	No, start _..::'//*COIN*\\'::.._ the new chain with too many ASCII name container
Apr 24 04:40:54 <Diablo-D3>	Namworld
Apr 24 04:40:55 <Diablo-D3>	diaf.
Apr 24 04:41:57 <Namworld>	Well we already have so many ridiculous alt chains... I got confused. I thought being ridiculous was a contest or something.
Apr 24 04:42:15 <Diablo-D3>	its not an alt chain to be an alt chain
Apr 24 04:42:18 <Diablo-D3>	its just a research project
Apr 24 04:42:51 <Namworld>	Uh? There's actually something or?
Apr 24 04:43:44 <Namworld>	I was just replying to Scrat comment about making another alt chain
Apr 24 04:44:18 <Diablo-D3>	its just a research project.
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Apr 24 05:12:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 05:27:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 5 @ 0.0055 = 0.0275 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 05:42:29 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 24 05:42:29 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 59.370738 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.118978294204 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
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Apr 24 05:49:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.111111 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 05:49:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.101 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 06:02:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4865 @ 0.00065934 = 3.2077 BTC [+]
Apr 24 06:03:19 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 24 06:03:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.89999, Best ask: 151.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 151.99999, 24 hour volume: 153182.72616472, 24 hour low: 126.81337, 24 hour high: 154.90000, 24 hour vwap: 140.37905
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Apr 24 06:09:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.1 = 3.3 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 06:19:41 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 24 06:19:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.53600, Best ask: 152.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.95400, Last trade: 151.53600, 24 hour volume: 153931.62345912, 24 hour low: 126.81337, 24 hour high: 154.90000, 24 hour vwap: 140.46294
Apr 24 06:20:04 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 453 * [ticker --last]
Apr 24 06:20:05 <gribble>	68970.156
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Apr 24 06:26:50 <dub>	Diablo-D3: checking your stack?
Apr 24 06:28:03 <dub>	not bad for a beneficiary
Apr 24 06:29:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
Apr 24 06:46:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003345 BTC [-]
Apr 24 06:46:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00333 = 0.0999 BTC [-]
Apr 24 06:46:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 70 @ 0.003305 = 0.2314 BTC [-]
Apr 24 06:46:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0033 = 0.33 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 06:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28930001 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 06:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.289 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 07:05:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00221 BTC [+]
Apr 24 07:09:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.1 = 3.3 BTC [-]
Apr 24 07:09:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Apr 24 07:11:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.101736 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 07:14:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 07:38:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1982 = 0.3964 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 07:45:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 07:53:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00240002 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Apr 24 07:53:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00240001 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Apr 24 07:53:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.0024 = 9.6 BTC [-]
Apr 24 07:53:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.139 BTC [+]
Apr 24 07:54:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 213 @ 0.0023263 = 0.4955 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 07:56:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.144 = 4.576 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 08:23:11 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 24 08:23:15 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 154.50000, Best ask: 154.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.49900, Last trade: 155.00000, 24 hour volume: 171313.19349257, 24 hour low: 127.53000, 24 hour high: 157.43253, 24 hour vwap: 141.93005
Apr 24 08:23:25 <deadweasel>	;;obip 1500
Apr 24 08:23:25 <gribble>	The weighted average price of BTC, 1500.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 153.66890 USD. | Data vintage: 65.5513 seconds
Apr 24 08:23:38 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 24 08:23:39 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 140.08
Apr 24 08:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.289 = 1.156 BTC [-]
Apr 24 08:25:08 <pizzaman1337>	well isn't that obip fancy
Apr 24 08:25:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.144 = 3.432 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 08:25:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
Apr 24 08:27:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4259 BTC [+]
Apr 24 08:27:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.426 BTC [+]
Apr 24 08:27:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4279 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 08:28:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 41 @ 0.00344 = 0.141 BTC [+]
Apr 24 08:29:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 38 @ 0.00345 = 0.1311 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 08:33:22 <deadweasel>	k
Apr 24 08:33:34 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 24 08:33:35 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 140.27
Apr 24 08:38:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 08:40:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 78 @ 0.0031 = 0.2418 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 08:42:29 <kakobrekla>	o/
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Apr 24 08:45:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 31 @ 0.0164 = 0.5084 BTC [-]
Apr 24 08:47:34 <deadweasel>	\o
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Apr 24 09:01:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00066039 = 0.4623 BTC [+]
Apr 24 09:01:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12435 @ 0.00066038 = 8.2118 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 09:40:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11101 BTC [-]
Apr 24 09:40:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.111 BTC [-]
Apr 24 09:40:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.101 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 09:59:46 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-is-quite-the-lulzmine/#comment-92898 jurov is trolling you
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Apr 24 10:03:55 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 24 10:04:12 <kakobrekla>	well its trolling someone but im not sure its me?
Apr 24 10:05:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [-]
Apr 24 10:05:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 7 @ 0.173 = 1.211 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 10:11:25 <jurov>	>:D can't even agree whom i'm trolling
Apr 24 10:11:56 <mircea_popescu>	jurov http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-is-quite-the-lulzmine/#comment-92902
Apr 24 10:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	see that.
Apr 24 10:13:42 <jurov>	yes, it's unlikely. but at least i found that fag problem
Apr 24 10:13:46 <jurov>	*faq
Apr 24 10:14:29 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it was fixed like a month ago
Apr 24 10:14:41 <kakobrekla>	hm?
Apr 24 10:15:06 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you recall, the bet calculation lists the total/his weight backwards
Apr 24 10:15:08 <kakobrekla>	jurov you talking about the formula?
Apr 24 10:15:14 <kakobrekla>	in the faq
Apr 24 10:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 24 10:15:39 <kakobrekla>	i told you it was backwards before didnt i?
Apr 24 10:15:43 <mircea_popescu>	yes!
Apr 24 10:15:52 <mircea_popescu>	i thought that meant tyou also fixed it
Apr 24 10:16:11 <kakobrekla>	some other consensus was reached afterwards iirc
Apr 24 10:16:48 <mircea_popescu>	i need more memory modules.
Apr 24 10:19:01 <ThickAsThieves>	ram is pretty cheap these days
Apr 24 10:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	but for the head.
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Apr 24 10:20:28 <jurov>	when they figure out how to plug it into asics, brain interface wwill follow soon
Apr 24 10:20:57 <jurov>	er.. fpga i man
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Apr 24 10:21:43 <davout>	hi all
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Apr 24 10:21:50 <jurov>	i'll have today another talk about bitcon scams
Apr 24 10:21:59 <jurov>	with lots of scary numbers
Apr 24 10:22:27 <mircea_popescu>	hi frenchie.
Apr 24 10:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	jurov scare them tiger./
Apr 24 10:22:41 <kakobrekla>	heya
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Apr 24 10:22:50 <davout>	people love scary numbers
Apr 24 10:23:09 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 24 10:23:10 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 162.00000, Best ask: 162.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 162.00000, 24 hour volume: 168626.00159905, 24 hour low: 132.63000, 24 hour high: 160.59800, 24 hour vwap: 145.09000
Apr 24 10:23:14 <pizzaman1337>	160 crossed...
Apr 24 10:23:31 <kakobrekla>	slimey btc.
Apr 24 10:23:38 <davout>	it's going to crash so hard
Apr 24 10:24:06 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
Apr 24 10:24:10 <davout>	i predict we'll drop to 40 USD/BTC when jurov releases his scary numbers
Apr 24 10:25:08 <jurov>	http://prezi.com/ag6ujv66o7to it's in slovak.. so limited audience only
Apr 24 10:25:30 <mircea_popescu>	numbers in slovak ?
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Apr 24 10:26:09 <jurov>	oh, non-slovaks will be told "Strata" means profit
Apr 24 10:26:17 <jurov>	and all be well
Apr 24 10:26:36 <davout>	i don't speak slovak and my box doesn't speak flash :D
Apr 24 10:27:11 <davout>	slovak looks even more hardcore than romanian
Apr 24 10:27:47 <jurov>	lol.. i think we have biggest number of accented characters in yurp
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Apr 24 10:28:18 <error4733>	french is worst
Apr 24 10:28:20 <davout>	i'm sure i'll make vi segfault if i try to paste that
Apr 24 10:28:42 <davout>	error4733: french is always worst
Apr 24 10:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7717 BTC [-]
Apr 24 10:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.77160001 BTC [-]
Apr 24 10:29:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7714 BTC [-]
Apr 24 10:29:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.73 = 3.46 BTC [-]
Apr 24 10:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	vi segfaults ? HERESY
Apr 24 10:29:50 <mod6>	^^^
Apr 24 10:30:01 <davout>	notepad segfaults if you just look at it the wrong way, i'm sure i can make vi segfault
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Apr 24 10:31:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1998 BTC [+]
Apr 24 10:31:29 <KRS-1>	might be able to segfault vi by using vi opening a symlink to vi
Apr 24 10:31:34 <KRS-1>	never tried
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Apr 24 10:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	KRS-1 i have it doesn't.
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Apr 24 10:34:51 <KRS-1>	vi /dev/random?
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Apr 24 10:35:16 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu likes Vi?
Apr 24 10:35:19 <thestringpuller>	Who woulda thought.
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Apr 24 10:35:38 <thestringpuller>	I thought you woulda been all about the emacs :P
Apr 24 10:35:39 <FabianB>	who doesn't like vi?
Apr 24 10:35:48 <thestringpuller>	FabianB: people who like emacs?
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Apr 24 10:36:24 <thestringpuller>	I pose the same question...
Apr 24 10:36:32 <davout>	as long as everyone hates xcode humanity still has a chance
Apr 24 10:36:37 <thestringpuller>	all emacs commands should be symlinked to ed :P
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Apr 24 10:38:20 <thestringpuller>	I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance thanks to Bitcoin.
Apr 24 10:38:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.0971 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 10:40:42 <error4733>	why ? you just bought bitcoin instead of your car insurance ? :D
Apr 24 10:41:27 <thestringpuller>	no because I don't drive a car!
Apr 24 10:41:28 <thestringpuller>	XD
Apr 24 10:41:31 <thestringpuller>	do you get it?
Apr 24 10:41:33 <thestringpuller>	lololol
Apr 24 10:42:51 <lippoper1>	no i don't
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Apr 24 10:43:01 <lippoper1>	error4733 was funnier ;-)
Apr 24 10:43:47 <thestringpuller>	;;goxlag
Apr 24 10:43:48 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.269184 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000539441722066 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
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Apr 24 10:44:32 <mircea_popescu>	i had sex with two girls up until 2pm because of bitcoin
Apr 24 10:45:48 <truffles>	hmmmmm
Apr 24 10:46:07 <thestringpuller>	did you really?
Apr 24 10:46:27 <thestringpuller>	did you tell them how many bitcoins you had, and they started blowing you?
Apr 24 10:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	a, no.
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Apr 24 10:46:54 <thestringpuller>	:P
Apr 24 10:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	i was wearing bitcoin buttons and it sparked a conversation
Apr 24 10:47:12 <mircea_popescu>	(with one of them. the other i knew for a while)
Apr 24 10:47:24 <mircea_popescu>	buttons = cufflinks.
Apr 24 10:47:30 <truffles>	ask him how much he paid thestringpuller
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Apr 24 10:47:54 <thestringpuller>	buttons and cufflings are two entirely different things bro :P
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Apr 24 10:48:49 <truffles>	hi deadweasel, did bitcoin get you laid today?
Apr 24 10:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	ya well davout threw me off.
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Apr 24 10:50:35 <davout>	my sex appeal troubles ladies and gents without distinction apparently
Apr 24 10:50:44 <kakobrekla>	did you tell em it was eriks really?
Apr 24 10:51:13 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla thickens the plot ;)
Apr 24 10:51:17 <thestringpuller>	As always.
Apr 24 10:51:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1015 @ 0.00065536 = 0.6652 BTC [-]
Apr 24 10:51:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17454 @ 0.00066345 = 11.5799 BTC [+]
Apr 24 10:52:04 <deadweasel>	truffles, no, i don't use btc as a means to a wet cock
Apr 24 10:52:05 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla no.
Apr 24 10:52:35 <kakobrekla>	aw, could have gotten a village of girls then
Apr 24 10:52:50 <mircea_popescu>	i only share bills and fines. i don't share the finer things of life :D
Apr 24 10:53:13 <truffles>	shared 2 women spit..
Apr 24 10:53:42 <davout>	ew cooties
Apr 24 10:54:05 <truffles>	not judging just pointing out the obvious
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Apr 24 10:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.285 = 7.125 BTC [-]
Apr 24 10:58:05 <kakobrekla>	http://leaprate.com/forex-industry-news/entry/ig-to-offer-binary-bets-on-bitcoins.html?acm=2607_147
Apr 24 10:58:41 <kakobrekla>	http://www.igindex.co.uk/spread-betting/bitcoin-binary-bets.html
Apr 24 11:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	kinda old news neh ?
Apr 24 11:00:59 <kakobrekla>	24 april is old?
Apr 24 11:02:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://goingglobaleastmeetswest.blogspot.ro/2013/04/paypal-and-bitcoin-paypal-unit-talks.html
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Apr 24 11:07:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00065007 = 2.4703 BTC [-]
Apr 24 11:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitcoin-exchange.info/ look, another one.
Apr 24 11:10:57 <orkaa>	cute design
Apr 24 11:11:51 <kakobrekla>	its fugly.
Apr 24 11:15:25 <mircea_popescu>	so boys and girls, i am indeed proud to say http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/smpoe-is-one-year-old/
Apr 24 11:16:32 <mod6>	=)
Apr 24 11:17:39 <davout>	oh noes, no trilema credits left
Apr 24 11:18:37 <mircea_popescu>	aww!
Apr 24 11:19:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0031 = 0.0062 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 11:21:39 <deadweasel>	congrats mircea_popescu !!!  one year and going gangbusters
Apr 24 11:21:51 <mircea_popescu>	:D
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Apr 24 11:22:25 <davout>	mircea_popescu: pic of you wearing a party hat or it didn't happen
Apr 24 11:22:34 <jcpham>	shoeonhead
Apr 24 11:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	im too tall for hats
Apr 24 11:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham http://fashionreverie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/schiaparelli-shoe-hat_insert.jpg
Apr 24 11:23:04 <davout>	the right size is when feet correctly touch the ground, your argument is invalid
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Apr 24 11:30:09 <lippoper1>	so one year and how many millions have you made already?
Apr 24 11:31:15 <jcpham>	i'm in the red
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Apr 24 11:31:35 <jcpham>	bitcoin is my tax write-off
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Apr 24 11:35:31 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175989.msg1929906#msg1929906
Apr 24 11:35:32 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 24 11:37:52 <mircea_popescu>	lippoper some.
Apr 24 11:38:21 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla his team and he created bitinstant.
Apr 24 11:38:31 <kakobrekla>	orly?
Apr 24 11:38:46 <Doffx>	shammoons?
Apr 24 11:38:54 <kakobrekla>	but bitinstant sucks
Apr 24 11:38:57 <Doffx>	Cryptostreet looks interesting
Apr 24 11:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	yes. one year later and with none of the key people/ideas/etc.
Apr 24 11:39:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
Apr 24 11:39:27 <kakobrekla>	ah
Apr 24 11:39:35 <kakobrekla>	dunno if its same
Apr 24 11:39:57 <kakobrekla>	but srsly, bitinstant has srs problems
Apr 24 11:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	but that's the thing right ? use all exchanges
Apr 24 11:40:02 <mircea_popescu>	then run into api problems etc
Apr 24 11:40:13 <mircea_popescu>	then get a 500 people group to scream you're a scam
Apr 24 11:42:30 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 24 11:42:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 165.90000, Best ask: 165.92997, Bid-ask spread: 0.02997, Last trade: 165.90000, 24 hour volume: 170812.60135934, 24 hour low: 132.63000, 24 hour high: 165.78000, 24 hour vwap: 147.24836
Apr 24 11:42:38 <pizzaman1337>	bitcoin, stop
Apr 24 11:42:43 <kakobrekla>	NO U
Apr 24 11:42:49 <pizzaman1337>	NO U
Apr 24 11:42:55 <kakobrekla>	BBQ
Apr 24 11:43:12 <kakobrekla>	no wait, skateboards.
Apr 24 11:43:18 <pizzaman1337>	ah, yeah
Apr 24 11:43:20 <lippoper1>	BBQCoins
Apr 24 11:43:20 <davout>	SKATEBOARDS
Apr 24 11:43:21 <lippoper1>	oh yeah
Apr 24 11:45:11 <mircea_popescu>	so the issue here is, paypal CEO actually got asked about bitcoin, actually said he's fascinated with it, ACTUALLY SAID they are considering moving over.
Apr 24 11:45:53 <kakobrekla>	just like gox goes from "we will implement ltc" to "we are considering it" few weeks later
Apr 24 11:45:59 <kakobrekla>	next will be "is not secure enough"
Apr 24 11:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	afaik this is the first time they discuss it.
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Apr 24 11:46:42 <mircea_popescu>	pp are assholes and mtgox are assholes, but quite different types of assholes i would say.
Apr 24 11:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	like a top new york firm lawyer is an asshole and some tribal witch doctor in nigeria are both assholes
Apr 24 11:47:15 <kakobrekla>	he cant say no and he cant say yes
Apr 24 11:47:17 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, here's it> http://www.bloomberg.com/video/paypal-sees-20-billion-in-mobile-transactions-WlokACTBRterdjHAJGNB6w.html
Apr 24 11:47:17 <kakobrekla>	what can he do
Apr 24 11:47:58 <lippoper1>	so overall, do you still believe Mt.Gox will implement LTC and/or NMC ?
Apr 24 11:48:16 <kakobrekla>	prolly no
Apr 24 11:48:28 <kakobrekla>	they have bigger problems
Apr 24 11:48:45 <lippoper1>	really? like what?
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Apr 24 11:48:54 <kakobrekla>	have use used them?
Apr 24 11:49:01 <kakobrekla>	you used*
Apr 24 11:49:47 <Scrat>	well, theres no lag now. throwing more hardware at shitty software works
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Apr 24 11:49:59 <kakobrekla>	right.
Apr 24 11:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat it wasn't the hardware.
Apr 24 11:50:56 <mircea_popescu>	they finally started refusing small orders.
Apr 24 11:51:26 <kakobrekla>	lag aint over
Apr 24 11:51:26 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
Apr 24 11:51:32 <kakobrekla>	its just sub 1h
Apr 24 11:51:35 <kakobrekla>	(for now)
Apr 24 11:51:44 <Doffx>	I still see plenty of .01 orders
Apr 24 11:52:05 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 24 11:52:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 163.50000, Best ask: 164.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 164.00000, 24 hour volume: 174282.55009237, 24 hour low: 132.63000, 24 hour high: 166.43424, 24 hour vwap: 147.69064
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Apr 24 11:54:46 <davout>	i think the lag is the least of their problems
Apr 24 11:55:49 <mircea_popescu>	there's one thing i don't understand.
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Apr 24 11:56:06 <mircea_popescu>	slush has been fucked over by both linode and ovh so far, as in, insider jobs.
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Apr 24 11:56:24 <mircea_popescu>	mtgox doesn't seem like they have enough of a clue to get proper physical security of their servers in place
Apr 24 11:56:36 <davout>	slush got fucked by ovh ? ouch
Apr 24 11:56:49 <mircea_popescu>	yet in spite of being a bigger target thery've not been hit yet. something here is wrong.
Apr 24 11:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	davout yes, seems insider job he says.
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Apr 24 11:57:44 <davout>	mircea_popescu: because when an ovh server is installed the first thing to do, like in the first ten seconds you get the server is to remove their backdoor, namely a couple of ssh keys in /root/.ssh
Apr 24 11:58:43 <mircea_popescu>	davout not sure he knew about this or w/e
Apr 24 11:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	check his pool's thread, it's there.
Apr 24 11:58:57 <orkaa>	davout, you sure it's like that?
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Apr 24 11:59:29 <orkaa>	davout, if it's similar as hetzner (it should be), they're just providing an rescue image
Apr 24 11:59:35 <orkaa>	a*
Apr 24 11:59:41 <orkaa>	but you have to reboot to get there
Apr 24 11:59:51 <davout>	yep, they have a backdoor installed, it's supposed to be for their support, if for whatever reason they need root access to your machine
Apr 24 12:00:04 <orkaa>	fuck, that's lame
Apr 24 12:00:06 <davout>	if you remove they key a reboot is necessary to compromise your machine
Apr 24 12:00:18 <Scrat>	which is moot since you should never have ssh exposed to the internet
Apr 24 12:00:45 <orkaa>	Scrat, isn't that the point of ssh? :)
Apr 24 12:00:51 <davout>	and if you have a passphrase on your wallet it'll lock it down at reboot
Apr 24 12:00:52 <mircea_popescu>	ya srsly i was thinking
Apr 24 12:00:57 <mircea_popescu>	no http either ?
Apr 24 12:01:16 <davout>	orkaa: ip whitelist
Apr 24 12:01:45 <mircea_popescu>	davout ya, so it'll lock it down at reboot. but the attacker installs a logger, then you reboot, put your pw in and then it reboots again.
Apr 24 12:02:05 <davout>	fair enough
Apr 24 12:02:13 <orkaa>	davout, that's still exposed to the internet technically
Apr 24 12:02:34 <davout>	orkaa: you can whitelist another server as required hop
Apr 24 12:02:51 <davout>	mircea_popescu: correct, i do concur that physically securing servers is important
Apr 24 12:03:16 <davout>	want : http://www.iliad-datacenter.fr/datacenters/dc4
Apr 24 12:03:23 <Scrat>	davout: but only a handful of providers will do that (and you have to colo)
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Apr 24 12:03:27 <orkaa>	davout, sure, but at the end of the road it's still exposed to the internet somehow
Apr 24 12:03:29 <davout>	servers in nuclear bunker
Apr 24 12:03:36 <orkaa>	just some points of obscurity added inbetween
Apr 24 12:03:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.144 = 2.288 BTC [+]
Apr 24 12:03:49 <davout>	orkaa: that's why it's useless
Apr 24 12:04:05 <jurov>	why can't anybody have secured backend?
Apr 24 12:04:10 <davout>	Scrat: gotta know what you want :-)
Apr 24 12:04:24 <davout>	26m underground
Apr 24 12:04:39 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat so yo ucolo. and every dc has lockable cages.
Apr 24 12:05:01 <jurov>	issuing btc transactions doesn't required some huge bandwidth/latency
Apr 24 12:05:07 <jurov>	nor pgp
Apr 24 12:05:20 <jurov>	i don't understand why you need to have it sitting in dc
Apr 24 12:05:32 <davout>	because skateboards
Apr 24 12:05:44 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: everyone will give you a locked cage, im talking more than that
Apr 24 12:08:58 <Scrat>	orkaa: ssh firewalled to a single static ip (while dropping all other packets) does not qualify as open to the internet
Apr 24 12:09:29 <jurov>	Scrat, when was the last remote ssh exploit? 10yrs ago?
Apr 24 12:10:45 <mircea_popescu>	there actually was one ?
Apr 24 12:10:51 <Scrat>	jurov: you have a point there, but this doesn't only apply to ssh
Apr 24 12:10:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.0951 = 0.1902 BTC [-]
Apr 24 12:10:53 <jurov>	as opposed to some filthy datacenter mucking with your machine
Apr 24 12:11:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 12:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	so strongcoin is scamming.
Apr 24 12:12:51 <jurov>	mircea_popescu, i think there was some attack that required you to feed several megabytes to the port before the openssh server folded
Apr 24 12:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186051.0
Apr 24 12:13:01 <jurov>	and also debian's weak keys
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Apr 24 12:13:16 <mircea_popescu>	well i don't count weak keys as an actual attack
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Apr 24 12:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186185.0 lmao at this guy
Apr 24 12:14:53 <mircea_popescu>	"is there escrow for very large sums ? cause i could do it".
Apr 24 12:14:55 <Scrat>	jurov: plenty of serious attacks on SSL in the past years though
Apr 24 12:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	unheard of guy.
Apr 24 12:14:59 <orkaa>	Scrat, IPs can be spoofed
Apr 24 12:15:03 <Scrat>	which openSSH uses
Apr 24 12:15:14 <Scrat>	orkaa: I'd like you see you spoof a tcp handshake
Apr 24 12:15:48 <orkaa>	yeah it's very unlikely but possible
Apr 24 12:15:53 <Scrat>	s/you/to/
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Apr 24 12:17:26 <kakobrekla>	uh https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186112.0
Apr 24 12:17:55 <kakobrekla>	coin is gonna be worthless soon at this rate
Apr 24 12:19:26 <Scrat>	;;eightball does MPOE-PR have a dick
Apr 24 12:19:26 <gribble>	It shall be.
Apr 24 12:19:36 <Scrat>	that's a yes
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Apr 24 12:23:59 <jcpham>	i sort of prefer the ethical debate here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186051.0
Apr 24 12:25:15 <jcpham>	i kinda like the idea of re-stealing bitcoins
Apr 24 12:25:39 <jcpham>	oops, sorry hacker you stored your ill-gotten gains ona web wallet. too bad, try again.
Apr 24 12:25:54 <mod6>	haha
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Apr 24 12:30:39 <alex12>	ASICMINER erupter blade - first review up - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181300.60
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Apr 24 12:40:01 <Scrat>	;;ticker
Apr 24 12:40:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 152.11101, Best ask: 154.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.88899, Last trade: 152.11101, 24 hour volume: 181715.91267301, 24 hour low: 133.25000, 24 hour high: 166.43438, 24 hour vwap: 149.18437
Apr 24 12:40:05 <Scrat>	freefall mode
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Apr 24 12:41:38 <mircea_popescu>	a well
Apr 24 12:42:09 <guruvan>	breakfast was more exciting
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Apr 24 12:51:24 <kakobrekla>	omg too funny wall street again
Apr 24 12:51:30 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175989.msg1932372#msg1932372
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Apr 24 12:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186458.msg1932156#msg1932156
Apr 24 12:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	lol ciuciu acidentally selfowned
Apr 24 12:57:55 <mod6>	lol
Apr 24 12:58:01 <kakobrekla>	shouldnt he be scammzor tagged
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Apr 24 13:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla i don't think anyone bothers anymore.
Apr 24 13:00:50 <mod6>	its like people just wake up, have a beer, get on the internet and go, "let's bring wall-street to BTC!!!111"
Apr 24 13:01:03 *	mod6 laughs
Apr 24 13:01:18 <mircea_popescu>	because wall street is this concept right ? which is accessible to them
Apr 24 13:01:24 <kakobrekla>	have a watery beer.
Apr 24 13:01:35 <mircea_popescu>	this is how they got involved with bitcoin too. by symlinking the Bitcoin symbol.
Apr 24 13:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like, why bother installing vi ? just make a file called vi and that's it, you have vi now
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Apr 24 13:03:45 <jurov>	yawn, another half hour talk about why is the regulation bad and taxes immoral
Apr 24 13:03:46 <mod6>	heheh.
Apr 24 13:04:20 <kakobrekla>	!l m s.dice
Apr 24 13:04:21 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0023263 BTC [-]
Apr 24 13:05:08 <mod6>	$vwap s.dice
Apr 24 13:05:10 <mpexbot>	mod6: S.DICE 1 day: average: 0.00239767 high: 0.00240002 low: 0.0023263 volume: 6713 btc: 16.0955419 7 day: average: 0.00274501 high: 0.00371221 low: 0.0012 volume: 71819 btc: 197.14412849 30 day: average: 0.00322186 high: 0.0045 low: 0.0012 volume: 1575370 btc: 5075.6277982
Apr 24 13:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	orkaa what was the site, jezuz.si ?
Apr 24 13:05:22 <kakobrekla>	jezus.si
Apr 24 13:05:25 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Apr 24 13:05:57 <mod6>	HAHA
Apr 24 13:06:03 <jcpham>	what is this desire to involve wall street
Apr 24 13:06:13 <mod6>	no idea jcpham
Apr 24 13:06:23 <mircea_popescu>	ty have a tit http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134166225424.jpg
Apr 24 13:06:37 <mod6>	its like they think that bitcoin hasn't "made it" unless maria is talking about it everyday or some bullshit
Apr 24 13:07:13 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: damn, nice rack
Apr 24 13:07:15 <jcpham>	let's get the credit card companies to accept btc too
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Apr 24 13:07:51 <jcpham>	bitcoin reminds me a lot of fight club
Apr 24 13:07:58 <jcpham>	especially the first rule and eventual ending
Apr 24 13:08:03 <kakobrekla>	lots of delusion?
Apr 24 13:08:13 <jcpham>	all of it, really
Apr 24 13:08:14 <mod6>	haha
Apr 24 13:08:33 <jcpham>	delusion is pretty good
Apr 24 13:08:52 <mod6>	i knew i was supposed to be golfing in the ghetto instead of working on this retarded database...
Apr 24 13:09:35 <jcpham>	ahahha
Apr 24 13:09:37 <mircea_popescu>	"On your tenth anniversary, you will still be ten years ahead of the rest."
Apr 24 13:09:38 <jcpham>	i like that
Apr 24 13:10:08 <mircea_popescu>	pretty good yeah
Apr 24 13:10:21 <jurov>	jcpham, now how would you imagine bitcoin credit card to work?
Apr 24 13:10:39 <jcpham>	i don't imagine it
Apr 24 13:10:43 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/18903.html o.o
Apr 24 13:10:44 <jurov>	maybe with fiat only, bitcoin to be used only to repay
Apr 24 13:10:51 <mircea_popescu>	what esl dood did this!
Apr 24 13:11:07 <jcpham>	i'm sortof anti-technology
Apr 24 13:11:18 <jcpham>	as funny as that may sound
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Apr 24 13:11:38 <jcpham>	i'd fund a bitcoin credit card throuhg intermediaries most likely
Apr 24 13:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	ajhahah
Apr 24 13:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	scumbag jcpham : gets bitcoin credit card,
Apr 24 13:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	loads it up on -otc
Apr 24 13:12:28 <mod6>	haha
Apr 24 13:12:41 <truffles>	wow he's a scumbag for wanting credit cards...
Apr 24 13:12:56 <jcpham>	no but it's the interpretation
Apr 24 13:12:58 <mod6>	didn't take long for the meme's to pop up on those pictures.
Apr 24 13:13:00 <kakobrekla>	some of those aint bad.
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Apr 24 13:15:22 <MJR_>	hi everyone
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Apr 24 13:15:39 <kakobrekla>	sup
Apr 24 13:15:44 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla it kinda looks like google translate became a singularity and is now trolling me
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Apr 24 13:16:04 <kakobrekla>	hehe
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Apr 24 13:16:14 <KRS-1>	heh thats pretty funny..and creative
Apr 24 13:16:37 <KRS-1>	T'sup MJR!
Apr 24 13:16:44 <KRS-1>	I'm chillin at work
Apr 24 13:16:57 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoiners are allowed to work ?
Apr 24 13:17:15 <KRS-1>	I'm a po man's bitcoina masta
Apr 24 13:18:07 <KRS-1>	i sold most of my loot from mining ops
Apr 24 13:18:12 <MJR_>	pretty funny
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Apr 24 13:19:13 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: i really like the year long graph btw, thanks for putting that in there.
Apr 24 13:21:29 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 incredibly stable i thought
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Apr 24 13:26:59 <mod6>	oh for sure.
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Apr 24 13:28:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 13:36:10 <kakobrekla>	the market is shitting brix
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Apr 24 13:36:27 *	illumin slaps abracadabra around a bit with a large trout
Apr 24 13:39:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 24 13:39:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 152.00000, Best ask: 152.20200, Bid-ask spread: 0.20200, Last trade: 152.00000, 24 hour volume: 208710.00960842, 24 hour low: 133.30010, 24 hour high: 166.43438, 24 hour vwap: 149.97855
Apr 24 13:39:42 <mod6>	ze ole bitcoin roll-over kakobrekla
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Apr 24 13:46:27 <mod6>	;;bids 130
Apr 24 13:46:30 <gribble>	There are currently 20478.063 bitcoins demanded at or over 130.0 USD, worth 2864105.87673 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0070 seconds
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Apr 24 13:47:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.0033 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 13:47:56 <kakobrekla>	yeah
Apr 24 13:48:02 <kakobrekla>	its volatile today
Apr 24 13:48:07 <kakobrekla>	and not even thursday
Apr 24 13:48:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4001 BTC [-]
Apr 24 13:48:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.40001 = 2.0001 BTC [-]
Apr 24 13:48:19 <kakobrekla>	or is it
Apr 24 13:48:24 <kakobrekla>	nope
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Apr 24 13:48:52 <mod6>	it has been more vol in the last ~36 hours than in the previous few days
Apr 24 13:48:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.144 = 2.288 BTC [+]
Apr 24 13:48:56 <mod6>	*volume
Apr 24 13:49:52 <mod6>	but newbs will prob. get goxxed when the lag-a-thon continues
Apr 24 13:50:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.01629 = 0.0977 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 13:52:27 <MoneyHoney>	Hi
Apr 24 13:52:38 <Scrat>	MoneyHoney: asl?
Apr 24 13:53:15 <MoneyHoney>	that saying is so 1990s
Apr 24 13:53:45 <mod6>	maybe he wants 2 cyber?
Apr 24 13:53:59 <Scrat>	16/f/las vegas here
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Apr 24 13:54:44 <mircea_popescu>	hello MoneyHoney
Apr 24 13:54:54 <MoneyHoney>	Hello
Apr 24 13:55:04 <MoneyHoney>	wow is no one talking on here
Apr 24 13:55:30 <mircea_popescu>	you just joined a second ago.
Apr 24 13:56:13 <mircea_popescu>	"This community being what it is (40% ex-SA trolls, 30% clueless idiots, 10% intelligent assholes, 10% blatant scammers, 5% psychopaths, 2% bored college kids, 2% eccentric entrepreneurs, 1% Phinneaus Gage, and 1% people who can't count)"
Apr 24 13:56:20 <mircea_popescu>	did he misspell pg's nick ?
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Apr 24 13:57:20 <MoneyHoney>	lol
Apr 24 13:58:13 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: hello
Apr 24 13:58:23 <mircea_popescu>	heya Chilca
Apr 24 13:58:24 <Chilca>	i'm always here
Apr 24 13:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4512 = 4.512 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 14:01:52 <MoneyHoney>	Do I have to do something to see the cheat
Apr 24 14:02:01 <MoneyHoney>	chat*
Apr 24 14:02:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.451 = 4.51 BTC [-]
Apr 24 14:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	MoneyHoney you're seeing it aren't you.
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Apr 24 14:03:10 <MoneyHoney>	nope nothing!
Apr 24 14:03:13 <jborkl>	hmm, I wonder which group I fit into
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Apr 24 14:04:19 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl maybe you're the other 1%
Apr 24 14:04:40 <jborkl>	well, I think I can count ok
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Apr 24 14:05:09 <jborkl>	lol
Apr 24 14:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	no no, the even-other-er 1%
Apr 24 14:05:32 <MoneyHoney>	I'm thinking about buying PPC
Apr 24 14:05:59 <MoneyHoney>	sound like a good idea.
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Apr 24 14:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	what's ppc ?
Apr 24 14:08:35 <MoneyHoney>	PPCoin
Apr 24 14:08:49 <kakobrekla>	paypal coin
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Apr 24 14:09:12 <MoneyHoney>	http://www.ppcoin.org/
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Apr 24 14:10:32 <mircea_popescu>	executive summary ?
Apr 24 14:10:47 <jborkl>	Well, clicking on that link and seeing the stick figures inspired confidence
Apr 24 14:10:50 <kakobrekla>	well, mircea has MECoin (mind experiment coin), rather buy some of those
Apr 24 14:11:15 <kakobrekla>	has a lower difficulty ya know
Apr 24 14:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	right lol
Apr 24 14:11:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 14:12:33 <mod6>	haha
Apr 24 14:12:37 <Scrat>	proof of steak: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17h4v50kfr1dijpg/original.jpg
Apr 24 14:12:52 <Scrat>	see, didn't even have to invent an altcoin
Apr 24 14:12:52 <MoneyHoney>	funny shit
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Apr 24 14:17:12 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186609.0
Apr 24 14:17:13 <kakobrekla>	hmm
Apr 24 14:17:31 <kakobrekla>	underground bunker didnt help
Apr 24 14:18:12 <mod6>	yikes
Apr 24 14:18:12 <jborkl>	I had not even heard of them
Apr 24 14:18:32 <jborkl>	These places are blowing up faster than I can keep up with them
Apr 24 14:18:37 <kakobrekla>	thats the davouts thing right
Apr 24 14:18:44 <mod6>	lol "Please do not call, do not email."
Apr 24 14:20:04 <mod6>	1-900-BTC-HAXX
Apr 24 14:21:04 <jborkl>	looks like 160 might have been the new high, for now
Apr 24 14:21:42 <jborkl>	well 167 for the last few ..
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Apr 24 14:22:40 <Scrat>	X-Powered-By:Phusion Passenger (mod_rails/mod_rack) 3.0.19
Apr 24 14:22:41 <Scrat>	:'(
Apr 24 14:22:58 <kakobrekla>	yeah, he was braging about it
Apr 24 14:23:00 <kakobrekla>	:P
Apr 24 14:23:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1433 BTC [-]
Apr 24 14:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
Apr 24 14:24:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.4631 = 4.3893 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 14:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4631 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 14:25:26 <truffles>	!seen bowjob
Apr 24 14:25:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1433 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 14:26:43 <kakobrekla>	use ;;seen
Apr 24 14:27:00 <truffles>	;;seen bowjob
Apr 24 14:27:00 <gribble>	bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 19 hours, 20 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <bowjob> lol
Apr 24 14:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.45 = 2.9 BTC [-]
Apr 24 14:27:03 <truffles>	thanks
Apr 24 14:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.44 = 14.4 BTC [-]
Apr 24 14:27:08 <kakobrekla>	yw
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Apr 24 14:27:35 <truffles>	youre a good guy kakobrekla despite our initial tangles
Apr 24 14:27:49 <kakobrekla>	awwww
Apr 24 14:28:04 <kakobrekla>	i hurt my image enough in romania
Apr 24 14:28:13 <truffles>	yea i thought u were meanie chat mod
Apr 24 14:28:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:28:27 <truffles>	ure Romanian also?
Apr 24 14:28:43 <kakobrekla>	nope
Apr 24 14:28:56 <kakobrekla>	somalia
Apr 24 14:29:02 <truffles>	the few ive met were quite aggressive
Apr 24 14:29:26 <truffles>	somalia no way
Apr 24 14:29:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.098 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:29:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1005 = 0.201 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 14:33:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:34:08 <mircea_popescu>	what wait what AGAIN ?!
Apr 24 14:34:19 <mircea_popescu>	davout ?
Apr 24 14:35:00 <kakobrekla>	hes gone
Apr 24 14:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	;;seen davout
Apr 24 14:35:44 <gribble>	davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <davout> because skateboards
Apr 24 14:35:51 <kakobrekla>	LMAO quote
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Apr 24 14:36:07 <mircea_popescu>	i guess the party hat's on him.
Apr 24 14:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	dub is dubzombie yours ?
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Apr 24 14:39:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00065807 = 2.6323 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:40:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00065807 = 8.8181 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:40:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8946 @ 0.00066345 = 5.9352 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:40:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27654 @ 0.00066904 = 18.5016 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:40:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 796 @ 0.00066904 = 0.5326 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00068389 = 5.7447 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:40:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00070482 = 10.678 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:40:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5173 @ 0.00070888 = 3.667 BTC [+]
Apr 24 14:40:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5481 @ 0.00071424 = 3.9147 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 14:41:07 <Scrat>	assbot: stfu bro or ill pop you
Apr 24 14:41:20 <assbot>	orly
Apr 24 14:41:27 <Scrat>	i am the ass whisperer
Apr 24 14:43:14 <kakobrekla>	rpietila is now making a conference?
Apr 24 14:43:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.000705 = 1.7625 BTC [-]
Apr 24 14:44:09 <mircea_popescu>	i recall this is one of the recent noobs but can't place him
Apr 24 14:44:12 <mircea_popescu>	was it new exchange ?
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Apr 24 14:44:46 <kakobrekla>	silvervault guy, binary bitcoin options something something
Apr 24 14:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	o ok
Apr 24 14:45:14 <kakobrekla>	a whooping 400btc pledged
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Apr 24 14:46:27 <gesell>	am i stating the obvious? the whales increase the volume or move their ask/bid closer to edge to repulse the edge, much as seen in other markets (http://www.nanex.net/aqck2/4165.html)
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Apr 24 14:47:46 <kakobrekla>	fake walls
Apr 24 14:47:49 <kakobrekla>	since ever.
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Apr 24 14:50:06 <gesell>	kakobrekla: true that but more volume in HFT (algo trading) the past month or so
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Apr 24 14:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.0007 = 3.85 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 14:57:03 <kakobrekla>	"hi i open a account about one week to trade bit coins, in mt4 plataform, i lost the bit direction to send a initial deposit please send me again."
Apr 24 14:57:04 <kakobrekla>	omg
Apr 24 14:57:09 <kakobrekla>	he lost his bit direction.
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Apr 24 14:57:27 <mircea_popescu>	aww!
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Apr 24 15:04:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 576 @ 0.00299999 = 1.728 BTC [+]
Apr 24 15:05:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00349938 = 4.1993 BTC [+]
Apr 24 15:06:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.0007 = 3.43 BTC [-]
Apr 24 15:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00070961 = 5.3221 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 15:08:14 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 24 15:08:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.25000, Best ask: 142.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 142.25000, 24 hour volume: 234722.15707060, 24 hour low: 136.07360, 24 hour high: 166.43438, 24 hour vwap: 150.32353
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Apr 24 15:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45010001 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 15:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4275 BTC [-]
Apr 24 15:18:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42500001 = 0.85 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 15:31:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1674 @ 0.00070972 = 1.1881 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 15:31:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00071 = 4.97 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 15:48:17 <jborkl>	lulz, I just read the Trilema blog
Apr 24 15:48:55 <jborkl>	great stuff , so very true in - history can teach much about the future
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Apr 24 15:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29859999 BTC [+]
Apr 24 15:56:03 <error4733>	true : first well documented inflation is the sesterce in ancian roman empire
Apr 24 15:56:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.2986 = 3.2846 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 15:58:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.00301 = 1.505 BTC [-]
Apr 24 15:58:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 240 @ 0.003 = 0.72 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 16:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28000003 BTC [-]
Apr 24 16:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.28000003 = 1.12 BTC [-]
Apr 24 16:08:31 <MJR_>	what up
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Apr 24 16:08:48 <kakobrekla>	skateboards got haxed
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Apr 24 16:09:32 <dub>	mircea_popescu: wat no
Apr 24 16:10:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 16:15:28 <kakobrekla>	o jesus
Apr 24 16:15:29 <kakobrekla>	http://bex.io/
Apr 24 16:15:59 <pizzaman1337>	haha
Apr 24 16:16:18 <kakobrekla>	remind me of that 'you can do anything video'
Apr 24 16:16:20 <kakobrekla>	reminds
Apr 24 16:16:43 <kakobrekla>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSjLiQxEZlM
Apr 24 16:17:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14395 BTC [-]
Apr 24 16:17:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
Apr 24 16:18:49 <mod6>	wat
Apr 24 16:19:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
Apr 24 16:19:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.145 = 8.015 BTC [+]
Apr 24 16:19:43 <MJR_>	kakobrekla: skateboards!
Apr 24 16:19:58 <kakobrekla>	seriously MJR_, where have you been
Apr 24 16:20:04 <kakobrekla>	;;seen davout
Apr 24 16:20:05 <gribble>	davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 14 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <davout> because skateboards
Apr 24 16:20:13 <MJR_>	i've been on here all day
Apr 24 16:20:17 <MJR_>	just working a lot
Apr 24 16:20:28 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 24 16:20:28 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu apparently they still work.
Apr 24 16:20:29 <dub>	Ilya is an Erlang/Elixir developer with over 12 years experience as a helpdesk team leader
Apr 24 16:20:41 <MJR_>	i requested an invite
Apr 24 16:20:44 <MJR_>	the more exchanges the merrier
Apr 24 16:20:50 <MJR_>	whats up guys
Apr 24 16:21:05 <mod6>	lol "you can do anything!"
Apr 24 16:21:09 <MJR_>	anyone know how to unsubscribe from a mt gox channel (socket.io API)
Apr 24 16:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.285 BTC [+]
Apr 24 16:23:07 <mod6>	lol "I've never been punched!"
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Apr 24 16:26:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.145 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 16:31:08 <mod6>	MJR_: `route add 72.52.5.0/24 127.0.0.1` <<< should do the trick
Apr 24 16:32:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Apr 24 16:34:02 <mod6>	;D
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Apr 24 16:36:18 <MJR_>	mod6: lol
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Apr 24 16:37:28 <mircea_popescu>	<jborkl> lulz, I just read the Trilema blog << there's like... i dunno, 7000 articles ? i doubt you read it all :D
Apr 24 16:38:08 <jborkl>	oh yeah, the one about African American housing
Apr 24 16:38:16 <jborkl>	or w/e
Apr 24 16:38:43 *	mircea_popescu goes to play heroes 3. returns an hour later, checks twitter. there's 10 retweets and a dood saying i think entirely too much of myself.
Apr 24 16:38:46 <mircea_popescu>	the life and times.
Apr 24 16:39:09 <ThickAsThieves>	it's hard being so awesome sometimes, ain't it?
Apr 24 16:39:26 <mircea_popescu>	notrly!
Apr 24 16:39:26 <jborkl>	LoL, haters
Apr 24 16:39:57 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 24 16:40:15 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i have a lot of practice see.
Apr 24 16:40:26 <jborkl>	If people read what you say, and not what they want it to say. You are actually being very polite most of the time
Apr 24 16:40:59 <jborkl>	they just are not smart enough to read properly
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Apr 24 16:41:06 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl it's very hard, this. probably the hardest thing in the world. in the end all science can be reinterpreted as a desperate and ultimately doomed attempt to read what nature says
Apr 24 16:41:13 <mircea_popescu>	rather than what we'd think it does.
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Apr 24 16:42:25 <MJR_>	i figured it out
Apr 24 16:42:35 <MJR_>	you just need to use JSON.stringify on the message first...
Apr 24 16:44:37 <mircea_popescu>	ok that bex.io thing is scaery.
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Apr 24 16:46:23 <jborkl>	Holy fuck, that is the worst idea I have ever heard of
Apr 24 16:46:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1439 = 2.2878 BTC [-]
Apr 24 16:46:40 <kakobrekla>	nothing but baglog here i tell you
Apr 24 16:46:45 <kakobrekla>	eh
Apr 24 16:46:47 <kakobrekla>	backlog
Apr 24 16:46:49 <MJR_>	what is scary about bex.io?
Apr 24 16:46:59 <kakobrekla>	css
Apr 24 16:47:37 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 24 16:47:51 <MJR_>	isn't that the same library all those kind of guys are using now?
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Apr 24 16:48:23 <kakobrekla>	hmm?
Apr 24 16:48:41 <jborkl>	And we <3 Bitcoin.
Apr 24 16:48:50 <jborkl>	well that makes it ok
Apr 24 16:48:56 <kakobrekla>	ya well, i <4 bitcoin.
Apr 24 16:48:58 <mod6>	haha jborkl
Apr 24 16:49:38 <MJR_>	hahaha
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Apr 24 16:51:24 <mircea_popescu>	ahahah <4
Apr 24 16:51:27 <alex12>	so im trying to setup my third video card in my p55 motherboard - however its not working, two of ANY of the video cards work, but when i power up 3, one of the cards is disabled / issues (OpenCL / ADL hardware detection issues_
Apr 24 16:51:35 <alex12>	any clues?
Apr 24 16:51:39 <mircea_popescu>	yes
Apr 24 16:51:45 <alex12>	could it be motherboard power related?
Apr 24 16:51:48 <mircea_popescu>	this is so well known even i have heard of it
Apr 24 16:51:58 <mircea_popescu>	there's a controller limit which only allows 2 cards at a time
Apr 24 16:52:12 <alex12>	hack?
Apr 24 16:52:35 <mircea_popescu>	not any very good ones. most miners have issues with this ending up with very speciffic mb / card combos because of it
Apr 24 16:52:42 <mircea_popescu>	getting a tricard setup to work is nontrivial.
Apr 24 16:53:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.117 BTC [-]
Apr 24 16:53:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.19809 = 1.1885 BTC [-]
Apr 24 16:56:08 <ThickAsThieves>	actually
Apr 24 16:56:15 <ThickAsThieves>	its just as likely you dont have enough power
Apr 24 16:56:51 <ThickAsThieves>	try a bigger PSU
Apr 24 16:56:54 <ThickAsThieves>	or two PSUs
Apr 24 16:56:57 <ThickAsThieves>	if you use two
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Apr 24 16:57:06 <ThickAsThieves>	you need to short circuit the cable on one
Apr 24 16:57:11 <ThickAsThieves>	or buy a special cable
Apr 24 16:57:16 <ThickAsThieves>	from cablesaurus
Apr 24 16:57:32 <ThickAsThieves>	http://cablesaurus.com/Dual-PSU-24-Pin-Adapter-Cable
Apr 24 16:57:57 <jborkl>	easy enough , like you said to short it - just one wire
Apr 24 16:59:42 <alex12>	mircea_popescu, :(
Apr 24 17:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181168.0
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Apr 24 17:00:44 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, nice fresh drama
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Apr 24 17:02:53 <bgupta>	Did folks see this? http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/04/24/paypal-president-is-fascinated-by-bitcoin-says-company-is-thinking-about-including-the-virtual-currency/
Apr 24 17:02:58 <ThickAsThieves>	this drama is not tasty enough
Apr 24 17:03:04 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Apr 24 17:03:07 <mircea_popescu>	bgupta yeah.
Apr 24 17:03:24 <ThickAsThieves>	paypal could "brand" bitcoin as their own
Apr 24 17:03:34 <ThickAsThieves>	and resist cannibilizing themselves
Apr 24 17:03:37 <ThickAsThieves>	but i doubt it
Apr 24 17:03:50 <ThickAsThieves>	cannibalizing
Apr 24 17:04:18 <ThickAsThieves>	more likely we'd see palcoin or such
Apr 24 17:04:23 <MJR_>	ppcoin
Apr 24 17:04:25 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 24 17:04:28 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 24 17:05:05 <ThickAsThieves>	western union is probably in a better position
Apr 24 17:05:26 <ThickAsThieves>	i question whether either is agile enough to do anything at all though
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Apr 24 17:10:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.292 = 1.168 BTC [+]
Apr 24 17:10:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 43 @ 0.2924 = 12.5732 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 17:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/bitcoin_central/status/327131323342942209
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Apr 24 17:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	seems ovh owned slush AND bitcoin-central.
Apr 24 17:19:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14299 BTC [+]
Apr 24 17:22:37 <ThickAsThieves>	shoulda used godaddy
Apr 24 17:22:45 <ThickAsThieves>	they wont let you change shit
Apr 24 17:23:30 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 24 17:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4182 = 2.5092 BTC [-]
Apr 24 17:46:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.41810001 = 1.2543 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 17:50:56 <mod6>	that tweet just staggers the imagination
Apr 24 17:51:24 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 24 17:51:26 <MJR_>	wow
Apr 24 17:52:03 <MJR_>	just saw something on tv...now that AP's twitter feed was hacked maybe someone will start caring about security more...
Apr 24 17:52:12 <MJR_>	and i use the term "hacked" very very loosely
Apr 24 17:53:04 <kakobrekla>	i wouldnt expect that
Apr 24 17:54:10 <iz>	MJR: twitter is very serious business :v
Apr 24 17:54:36 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 24 17:54:44 <MJR_>	oh, were you guys not aware...
Apr 24 17:55:07 <iz>	haha
Apr 24 17:55:15 <MJR_>	that tweet moved the US equity market 136 billion dollars
Apr 24 17:55:30 <MJR_>	so...kinda serious business
Apr 24 17:55:50 <iz>	not really, it's just marketing for twitter
Apr 24 17:56:07 <iz>	flash crashes happen and are corrected
Apr 24 17:56:09 <iz>	it happens
Apr 24 17:56:12 <MJR_>	just saying...of course they do and are
Apr 24 17:56:19 <mod6>	o.O
Apr 24 17:57:34 <asciilifeform>	the paypal thing makes me wonder: what happens when someone with serious meatspace pull starts an altchain?
Apr 24 17:59:25 <MJR_>	asciilifeform: well...if they have serious pull, then they will have a centralized system more than likely...which probably negates bitcoins biggest advantage
Apr 24 17:59:55 <MJR_>	so, either they create a distributed system they don't control...which means its exactly like bitcoin but 4 years late to the party
Apr 24 18:00:15 <MJR_>	or they create something they control, and it completely misses the point
Apr 24 18:00:38 <asciilifeform>	MJR_: you can profit from an altchain without controlling it (in the sense that Warcraft gold is controlled) - simply through pre-mining.
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Apr 24 18:00:55 <MJR_>	well...that is what ripple did
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Apr 24 18:01:08 <MJR_>	and most people i've talked to dislike the fact that the coins were premined
Apr 24 18:01:16 <MJR_>	among ripples other problems
Apr 24 18:01:57 <MJR_>	but the fact remains, that if you don't control the system, it probably won't be very profitable for a company, and if you do control it, bitcoin will remain unique
Apr 24 18:02:05 <asciilifeform>	my prediction: PayPal will take 'paypalcoin' as deposits/withdrawals, and it will pre-mine the first million or so. they will say "take it or leave it," and plenty will take it.
Apr 24 18:02:21 <MJR_>	i think more will leave it
Apr 24 18:02:27 <MJR_>	what exactly would that benefit them?
Apr 24 18:02:52 <asciilifeform>	MJR_: free money
Apr 24 18:02:55 <MJR_>	you can currently fund paypal with dollars
Apr 24 18:03:04 <MJR_>	why would someone want to trust paypal with their money
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Apr 24 18:03:20 <MJR_>	most people like bitcoin because they can leave paypal
Apr 24 18:03:43 <MJR_>	so maybe some will choose that, but i think you combine the technical difficulty of bitcoin with the centralization and control of the current system
Apr 24 18:04:04 <MJR_>	and if they do a blockchain like system, people will know how many coins they've premined
Apr 24 18:04:07 <asciilifeform>	paypal wants to live. so it will set itself up as a very odd sort of bitcoin exchange, where you have to buy into their scrip to play.
Apr 24 18:04:11 <MJR_>	if they don't...why trust them in the first place
Apr 24 18:04:33 <ThickAsThieves>	paypal won't do anything
Apr 24 18:04:33 <MJR_>	point is, bitcoin will remain unique
Apr 24 18:04:38 <ThickAsThieves>	they are too big
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Apr 24 18:04:51 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: i agree...but theoretically if they wanted to, it'd be a waste of time
Apr 24 18:04:54 <ThickAsThieves>	there's like what, one agile big business?
Apr 24 18:05:04 <ThickAsThieves>	Google
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Apr 24 18:05:30 <asciilifeform>	ebay is a de-facto monopoly, so an altcoin which one can use on ebay (via paypal) will have a serious advantage.
Apr 24 18:05:36 <MJR_>	how?
Apr 24 18:05:40 <MJR_>	i seriously don't get it
Apr 24 18:05:48 <MJR_>	i can use cash on ebay
Apr 24 18:05:59 <MJR_>	why would i change from cash to ebaycoin
Apr 24 18:06:09 <MJR_>	what benefit would it give me as a consumer?
Apr 24 18:06:25 <asciilifeform>	seems like most ebay users insist on electronic payment
Apr 24 18:06:26 <jborkl>	I personally use Chuck E Cheese tokens
Apr 24 18:06:27 <MJR_>	how would they get people to choose this product over cash?
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Apr 24 18:06:40 <MJR_>	unless they decide to stop taking cash (srsly doubt that)
Apr 24 18:07:02 <MJR_>	yes...electronic cash
Apr 24 18:07:10 <MJR_>	which is what everyone uses for online shopping now
Apr 24 18:07:29 <error4733>	colored coin !
Apr 24 18:07:29 <ThickAsThieves>	the advantage
Apr 24 18:07:34 <ThickAsThieves>	would be in the fees
Apr 24 18:07:48 <MJR_>	so what benefit would a consumer have to say "it's the same price either way, i want to complicate the process of buying something"
Apr 24 18:07:52 <MJR_>	fees for the company
Apr 24 18:08:02 <MJR_>	so you lower fees for the consumer
Apr 24 18:08:02 <ThickAsThieves>	paypal could undermine the credit card industry
Apr 24 18:08:07 <MJR_>	yes, but why would i carfe
Apr 24 18:08:08 <MJR_>	care
Apr 24 18:08:17 <ThickAsThieves>	because you'd pay less fees
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Apr 24 18:08:24 <MJR_>	good for them, you made more money, still don't see a value proposition
Apr 24 18:08:35 <MJR_>	how would i get cash INTO their coins?
Apr 24 18:08:36 <ThickAsThieves>	saving money is not a value?
Apr 24 18:08:48 <MJR_>	how does the cash get converted to their coins
Apr 24 18:08:54 <MJR_>	i pay the fees there
Apr 24 18:09:13 <MJR_>	and then get to buy something slightly cheaper, after using more time and adding complexity
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Apr 24 18:09:32 <ThickAsThieves>	you need expand your perspective
Apr 24 18:09:48 <ThickAsThieves>	yknow how people are trying bitcoin credit cards?
Apr 24 18:09:53 <ThickAsThieves>	paypal could take that over
Apr 24 18:10:07 <MJR_>	i'm telling you...if you are saying that the pool of available value is the fees that ebay will not pay credit cards...then they will want a big piece of that
Apr 24 18:10:19 <ThickAsThieves>	they are already making inroads by releasing paypal credit cvards
Apr 24 18:10:29 <jborkl>	Why would you need a bitcoin credit card- just use a phone with NFC or scan to send
Apr 24 18:10:31 <MJR_>	but, you haven't in any way made the process better for the consumer because I will just use my credit card to buy your ebaycoins
Apr 24 18:10:51 <ThickAsThieves>	*We* dont need any of this
Apr 24 18:10:58 <ThickAsThieves>	but joe sixpack might
Apr 24 18:11:01 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: so if i can have a bitcoin credit card (which I know they are working on) then why would i choose to use ebaycoins
Apr 24 18:11:21 <MJR_>	point is, these "alt chains" exist and have for quite some time
Apr 24 18:11:23 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 24 18:11:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.19991, Best ask: 151.19992, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 151.19991, 24 hour volume: 233424.28099254, 24 hour low: 140.20000, 24 hour high: 166.43438, 24 hour vwap: 151.56597
Apr 24 18:11:27 <MJR_>	they are called frequent flier miles
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Apr 24 18:11:32 <ThickAsThieves>	its a branding and positioning conversation
Apr 24 18:11:32 <MJR_>	rewards points
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Apr 24 18:11:42 <ThickAsThieves>	not just about value comparisons
Apr 24 18:11:52 <MJR_>	there is nothing they are doing that is new or useful by creating an alt chain
Apr 24 18:12:05 <MJR_>	oh yeah, gift cards too
Apr 24 18:12:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.143 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 18:12:08 <truff1es>	we should ban altcoins
Apr 24 18:12:11 <MJR_>	nah
Apr 24 18:12:19 <ThickAsThieves>	well they dont even NEED to do it as an alt
Apr 24 18:12:28 <ThickAsThieves>	they could just legitimize bitcoin
Apr 24 18:12:31 <MJR_>	true
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Apr 24 18:12:37 <MJR_>	but therein lies the difference
Apr 24 18:12:45 <MJR_>	adopting bitcoin makes sense
Apr 24 18:12:51 <ThickAsThieves>	not exactly
Apr 24 18:12:52 <MJR_>	you will save fees
Apr 24 18:12:59 <MJR_>	and have faster clearing
Apr 24 18:13:05 <ThickAsThieves>	Paypal isnt gonna trust their money with Luke-Jr
Apr 24 18:13:07 <ThickAsThieves>	sorry
Apr 24 18:13:08 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 24 18:13:11 <MJR_>	there is my point
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Apr 24 18:13:29 <mod6>	who the fuck cares about paypal?
Apr 24 18:13:32 <jurov>	public transactioin record can be interesting.. but what about chargebacks?
Apr 24 18:13:38 <MJR_>	bitcoin either remains unique in its decentralization, or someone creates an identical system that doesn't add value
Apr 24 18:13:54 <joecool>	mod6: i don't even think paypal cares about paypal
Apr 24 18:13:57 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 24 18:14:02 <MJR_>	anyways, thats my point
Apr 24 18:14:06 <MJR_>	amazon already has amazoncoins
Apr 24 18:14:08 <ThickAsThieves>	its just a conversation
Apr 24 18:14:08 <MJR_>	no one cares
Apr 24 18:14:14 <ThickAsThieves>	it wont bite
Apr 24 18:14:17 <Diablo-D3>	amazoncoins arent coins
Apr 24 18:14:20 <Diablo-D3>	they're xbox live points
Apr 24 18:14:23 <Diablo-D3>	its not the same thing
Apr 24 18:14:25 <MJR_>	which is what i am saying
Apr 24 18:14:38 <MJR_>	you can create customer rewards programs all day long...that is not bitcoin
Apr 24 18:14:39 <ThickAsThieves>	this is why paypal would consider an altcoin
Apr 24 18:14:42 <ThickAsThieves>	before bitcoin
Apr 24 18:14:43 <KRS1>	i just started mining bytecoins!
Apr 24 18:14:47 <mod6>	http://youtu.be/h5tcAXMDxfY
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Apr 24 18:15:29 <MJR_>	my point is...paypal won't say "we can create a customer rewards point system, but let's do it in the most confusing and difficult way as opposed to just creating a new table in a database"
Apr 24 18:15:30 <ThickAsThieves>	they make palcoins to have the features of bitcoin, without the risks of how bitcoin is run
Apr 24 18:15:48 <MJR_>	the biggest feature of bitcoin is that paypal doesn't control it!
Apr 24 18:15:52 <ThickAsThieves>	(dont forget i started my comments with, paypal won't do shit)
Apr 24 18:15:57 <MJR_>	good point
Apr 24 18:16:10 <MJR_>	the beautiful thing that makes bitcoin great is that NO ONE runs it
Apr 24 18:16:17 <ThickAsThieves>	thats not true at all
Apr 24 18:16:26 <MJR_>	the minute someone says "i run this" you just completely missed the point
Apr 24 18:16:30 <ThickAsThieves>	teh devs and miners run it
Apr 24 18:16:34 <ThickAsThieves>	and gox
Apr 24 18:16:38 <MJR_>	no...
Apr 24 18:16:45 <ThickAsThieves>	you can tell yourself that
Apr 24 18:16:46 <MJR_>	they adopted a protocol that they don't control
Apr 24 18:16:57 <MJR_>	i'm a miner, i think i should get 100 coins for this block
Apr 24 18:17:06 <MJR_>	i "control" this system don't I?
Apr 24 18:17:11 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 24 18:17:15 <MJR_>	exactly
Apr 24 18:17:16 <ThickAsThieves>	dont jump to extremes
Apr 24 18:17:18 <Diablo-D3>	MJR_: are you on drugs?
Apr 24 18:17:24 <MJR_>	no...not yet at least
Apr 24 18:17:25 <Diablo-D3>	or do you just like shitting out strawmans?
Apr 24 18:17:30 <MJR_>	hahahaha
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Apr 24 18:17:45 <MJR_>	my point is that a decentralized system can be said to be run by everyone, or no one, same difference
Apr 24 18:18:11 <MJR_>	but seriuosly, if i control it, i can say "i want more than 21 million" or "you can't use it on silk road"
Apr 24 18:18:17 <MJR_>	etc
Apr 24 18:18:20 <ThickAsThieves>	bitcoin WANTS to be decentralized
Apr 24 18:18:31 <ThickAsThieves>	but needed to be under control to actually get off the ground
Apr 24 18:18:34 <MJR_>	the protocol can be implemented by anyone anywhere
Apr 24 18:18:45 <MJR_>	huh? it is off the ground...and it isn't under anyone's control
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Apr 24 18:18:57 <ThickAsThieves>	cmon
Apr 24 18:18:59 <ThickAsThieves>	really?
Apr 24 18:19:24 <MJR_>	its been around for 4 years...its still small, but any company that had the run that bitcoin has would be pretty happy
Apr 24 18:19:28 <ThickAsThieves>	so who caused AND fixed the fork
Apr 24 18:19:35 <ThickAsThieves>	everyone?
Apr 24 18:19:40 <MJR_>	lol, they suggested that people move back and those people agreed
Apr 24 18:19:46 <MJR_>	they didn't have to
Apr 24 18:19:54 <ThickAsThieves>	devs and mining pools did it
Apr 24 18:20:00 <ThickAsThieves>	you had no say
Apr 24 18:20:03 <ThickAsThieves>	i had no say
Apr 24 18:20:03 <MJR_>	perhaps we need to understand what "control" means
Apr 24 18:20:13 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 24 18:20:20 <ThickAsThieves>	you want it to mean total control
Apr 24 18:20:27 <MJR_>	if one of those people controlled it, they wouldn't have had to ask
Apr 24 18:20:37 <ThickAsThieves>	devs dont need to ask
Apr 24 18:20:40 <MJR_>	and you could have kept on mining the longer chain until it became invalid
Apr 24 18:20:45 <MJR_>	devs did ask
Apr 24 18:20:46 <ThickAsThieves>	they barely need to ask each other
Apr 24 18:20:50 <MJR_>	huh?
Apr 24 18:20:56 <MJR_>	they turned off the miners machines?
Apr 24 18:21:03 <MJR_>	they didn't have to ask the mining pool operators
Apr 24 18:21:06 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 24 18:21:09 <gribble>	There are currently 159761.04 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14120174.0375 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0096 seconds
Apr 24 18:21:09 <MJR_>	they just turned them off themselves
Apr 24 18:21:13 <ThickAsThieves>	they didnt have to change the software either
Apr 24 18:21:21 <MJR_>	you don't have to use the software they create
Apr 24 18:21:24 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 100
Apr 24 18:21:25 <gribble>	There are currently 57796.802 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 7146181.94725 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.2669 seconds
Apr 24 18:21:32 <MJR_>	bitcoin is a protocol
Apr 24 18:21:32 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 24 18:21:33 <gribble>	There are currently 47694.042 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 8461014.99825 USD in total. | Data vintage: 24.4125 seconds
Apr 24 18:21:39 <MJR_>	anyone can write their own software
Apr 24 18:21:39 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 0
Apr 24 18:21:40 <gribble>	There are currently 57833003 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19845908.6143 USD in total. | Data vintage: 31.6619 seconds
Apr 24 18:21:45 <ThickAsThieves>	yes
Apr 24 18:21:54 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 250
Apr 24 18:21:55 <gribble>	There are currently 74644.128 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 14832772.4797 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.1288 seconds
Apr 24 18:21:57 <MJR_>	so what do the devs control? their implementation of the bitcoin protocol
Apr 24 18:22:02 <MJR_>	fine
Apr 24 18:22:16 <ThickAsThieves>	and whomever trusts their latest version
Apr 24 18:22:19 <ThickAsThieves>	or influence
Apr 24 18:22:19 <MJR_>	what do mining pool operators control? the hashes they produce...no biggie
Apr 24 18:22:26 <MJR_>	that is the key word
Apr 24 18:22:27 <MJR_>	influence
Apr 24 18:22:28 <ThickAsThieves>	how is it not a biggie?
Apr 24 18:22:42 <ThickAsThieves>	they "saved bitcoin"
Apr 24 18:22:45 <MJR_>	i can ask, suggest, beg, demand...but i can't FORCE
Apr 24 18:23:06 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves shutup
Apr 24 18:23:20 <ThickAsThieves>	control only requires the ability to manipulate the controls
Apr 24 18:23:23 <tiberiusiv>	MJR you too
Apr 24 18:23:24 <ThickAsThieves>	not break them
Apr 24 18:23:26 <MJR_>	and if everyone decides to go in one direction, i can mine my own forked chain and have my own little world...or i can go with the majority
Apr 24 18:23:38 <tiberiusiv>	2 idiots argueing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin
Apr 24 18:23:50 <ThickAsThieves>	sounds like a great format for paypal to trust
Apr 24 18:23:50 <MJR_>	no...that is like saying that since I can vote in elections I control who is president of the US
Apr 24 18:24:03 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 24 18:24:11 <MJR_>	the point is, they had to ask at every step of the way
Apr 24 18:24:25 <MJR_>	next time the pool operators could say no
Apr 24 18:24:29 <MJR_>	that is the point
Apr 24 18:24:32 <ThickAsThieves>	who did the devs ask about releasing .8?
Apr 24 18:24:41 <MJR_>	they released THEIR software
Apr 24 18:24:52 <MJR_>	they are allowed to release whatever they want
Apr 24 18:24:53 <ThickAsThieves>	and the pools ate it up
Apr 24 18:24:57 <MJR_>	you can choose to download it, or not
Apr 24 18:25:03 <ThickAsThieves>	anyway
Apr 24 18:25:11 <ThickAsThieves>	if you want bitcoin to be decentralized
Apr 24 18:25:14 <MJR_>	last i checked they didn't come to your house and install it without your consent
Apr 24 18:25:20 <ThickAsThieves>	it needs to have an exchange built into it somehow
Apr 24 18:25:28 <MJR_>	huh?
Apr 24 18:25:28 <iz>	they don't?  who the hell was that guy then?!?
Apr 24 18:26:14 <ThickAsThieves>	if people still follow software upgrades
Apr 24 18:26:21 <ThickAsThieves>	it is not decentralized
Apr 24 18:26:29 <iz>	uh..
Apr 24 18:26:46 <iz>	maybe there is some confusion about what decentralized means in the bitcoin context
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Apr 24 18:26:55 <ThickAsThieves>	i see it as
Apr 24 18:27:15 <ThickAsThieves>	the ability for a party to manipulate it enought to affect all users
Apr 24 18:27:20 <iz>	are you saying bitcoin isn't decentralized, because all the clients follow the same protocol?
Apr 24 18:27:26 <iz>	er.. bittorrent, i mean
Apr 24 18:27:33 <iz>	either way
Apr 24 18:27:35 <iz>	same difference
Apr 24 18:27:37 <iz>	same point
Apr 24 18:27:38 <ThickAsThieves>	because there are a handful of people deciding its fate
Apr 24 18:27:48 <iz>	that's not what decentralized vs centralized means though
Apr 24 18:28:13 <iz>	just because a handful of ppl decide something's fate, doesn't mean it can't be a decentralized system
Apr 24 18:28:25 <ThickAsThieves>	it can be one but not act like one
Apr 24 18:28:29 <ThickAsThieves>	i suppose
Apr 24 18:28:48 <iz>	how would you define a decentralized system that acts like one in your mind then?
Apr 24 18:28:56 <iz>	can you give any examples of such a thing existing?
Apr 24 18:29:08 <ThickAsThieves>	hmm
Apr 24 18:30:17 <augustocroppo>	Define "decentralized" system.
Apr 24 18:30:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i can find holes in any example that comes to mindf
Apr 24 18:30:25 <iz>	yeah, exactly
Apr 24 18:30:45 <augustocroppo>	It is not central to what?
Apr 24 18:30:49 <iz>	i think your idea of a "perfect decentralized system" doesn't exist really
Apr 24 18:30:54 <ThickAsThieves>	not centrally controlled
Apr 24 18:30:55 <iz>	because it's too abstract
Apr 24 18:31:12 <augustocroppo>	So there is no control?
Apr 24 18:31:12 <iz>	and you are abstracting what "centralized" vs "decentralized" means far too much
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Apr 24 18:31:25 <kakobrekla>	go troll -dev
Apr 24 18:31:33 <ThickAsThieves>	but the conversation did move to that
Apr 24 18:31:52 <ThickAsThieves>	mainly i was saying that devs have ability to ruin bitcoin
Apr 24 18:31:57 <ThickAsThieves>	and mjr disagreed
Apr 24 18:32:25 <ThickAsThieves>	anywho
Apr 24 18:32:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll stop
Apr 24 18:34:24 <augustocroppo>	So, no more debate?
Apr 24 18:34:39 <ThickAsThieves>	got too semantic
Apr 24 18:34:51 <augustocroppo>	Someone told me that IRC is where the most important subjects related to Bitcoin are discussed.
Apr 24 18:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4548 = 3.1836 BTC [+]
Apr 24 18:35:07 <truff1es>	"most important"
Apr 24 18:35:11 <ThickAsThieves>	this room has been kinda dead lately
Apr 24 18:35:29 <kakobrekla>	too much ppl
Apr 24 18:35:52 <truff1es>	there arent too many people in here compared to otc
Apr 24 18:36:03 <ThickAsThieves>	or bitcoin-anal
Apr 24 18:36:15 <truff1es>	haha
Apr 24 18:36:37 <ThickAsThieves>	turns out the bitcoin-anal crew actually are a little anal
Apr 24 18:36:37 <truff1es>	they actually seem to like discussing things in there
Apr 24 18:36:53 <MJR_>	what is bitcoin-anal?
Apr 24 18:36:56 <ThickAsThieves>	its half noobs and half chart firends
Apr 24 18:36:59 <truff1es>	analysis
Apr 24 18:36:59 <ThickAsThieves>	fiends*
Apr 24 18:37:11 <MJR_>	sorry had to run downstairs
Apr 24 18:37:27 <MJR_>	anyway, my point is that a free market is the most efficient system so far
Apr 24 18:37:45 <MJR_>	so, bitcoin is closest to that ideal...if people don't like the devs, they will build their own software
Apr 24 18:37:53 <MJR_>	(this is extremely likely)
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Apr 24 18:38:04 <truff1es>	if you build it, they will come
Apr 24 18:38:12 <Scrat>	please no more litecoin clones
Apr 24 18:38:13 <MJR_>	if people don't like the mining pools decisions, they will join a different one
Apr 24 18:38:31 <mod6>	think of HTTP or SMTP before modern clients, guys either used something like lynx or elm
Apr 24 18:38:36 <ThickAsThieves>	will take some big mistakes along the way
Apr 24 18:38:38 <MJR_>	Scrat: no, not an alt chain...you can build bitcoin software yourself
Apr 24 18:39:00 <MJR_>	mod6: exactly
Apr 24 18:39:43 <mod6>	eventually they'll get us that spec and some more dev's will be off to the races on their own client
Apr 24 18:39:44 <MJR_>	http is a protocol, i can write a browser to use that protocol
Apr 24 18:40:06 <ThickAsThieves>	the conversation did stem from how an entity like Paypal would never touch bitcoin because of these factors
Apr 24 18:40:12 <MJR_>	saying that the  guys who made netscape navigator could have ruined the internet is pretty unlikely
Apr 24 18:40:34 <jurov>	no, ie6 almost ruined it :D
Apr 24 18:40:34 <ThickAsThieves>	not comparable
Apr 24 18:40:47 <MJR_>	jurov: LOL yeas
Apr 24 18:40:54 <MJR_>	it is exactly the same thing
Apr 24 18:40:56 <mod6>	lol or netscape6 ... eek!
Apr 24 18:40:59 <MJR_>	a protocol
Apr 24 18:41:01 <KRS1>	nutscrape sucked
Apr 24 18:41:02 <truff1es>	the pain and suffering "shivers"
Apr 24 18:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4548 = 2.7288 BTC [+]
Apr 24 18:41:04 <augustocroppo>	Free market is not a "system"...
Apr 24 18:41:09 <MJR_>	it is
Apr 24 18:41:12 <truff1es>	*shivers*
Apr 24 18:41:14 <augustocroppo>	From where you got that?
Apr 24 18:41:16 <kakobrekla>	v0.8 almost ruined it
Apr 24 18:41:29 <KRS1>	i just started the channel #bitcoin-anal, everyobody's welcome to come
Apr 24 18:41:40 <ThickAsThieves>	come in you anal?
Apr 24 18:41:44 <MJR_>	A free market is a market structure in which the distribution and costs of goods and services, along with the structure and hierarchy between capital and consumer goods, are coordinated by supply and demand unhindered by external regulation or control by government or monopolies
Apr 24 18:41:44 <error4733>	call MP
Apr 24 18:41:45 <KRS1>	yes it will be fun
Apr 24 18:41:47 <mod6>	haha
Apr 24 18:41:52 <jurov>	i prefer #bitcoin-circlejerk
Apr 24 18:42:00 <truff1es>	<KRS1> too unnatural sorry
Apr 24 18:42:00 <KRS1>	those are for the alt-coins
Apr 24 18:42:04 <kakobrekla>	;;ud circlejerk
Apr 24 18:42:05 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=circlejerk | To kneel in a circle with others and pleasure oneself. Also refers to a pompous, self-congratulatory discussion where little to no progress is made.
Apr 24 18:42:08 <MJR_>	that is basically describing a system
Apr 24 18:42:13 <KRS1>	;;ud paleface
Apr 24 18:42:14 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=paleface | A common term used by native Americans to classify white people.
Apr 24 18:42:22 <augustocroppo>	Right, and what exactly the "free" means in all that structure?
Apr 24 18:42:40 <MJR_>	it means that there is no external regulation
Apr 24 18:42:47 <truff1es>	free...
Apr 24 18:42:54 <truff1es>	that word should be banned
Apr 24 18:42:57 <MJR_>	within this system, everyone is able to impact it as much as they can
Apr 24 18:43:14 <ThickAsThieves>	guys, getting semantic about everything is worse than a circlejerk
Apr 24 18:43:18 <MJR_>	your ability to impact it is only limited by YOUR ability to impact it
Apr 24 18:43:26 <MJR_>	i'm not trying to get semantic
Apr 24 18:43:29 <MJR_>	but i agree totally
Apr 24 18:43:32 <truff1es>	i am
Apr 24 18:43:38 <augustocroppo>	Free of external regulation? But what boundaries define what is out and what is in?
Apr 24 18:43:39 <jurov>	 /o\
Apr 24 18:43:42 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 24 18:43:44 <ThickAsThieves>	what is a system? what is free? what is is?
Apr 24 18:43:48 <MJR_>	hahaha
Apr 24 18:43:50 <MJR_>	good point
Apr 24 18:44:01 <MJR_>	point is, competition...
Apr 24 18:44:03 <KRS1>	the answer lies in...#bitcoin-anal
Apr 24 18:44:11 <KRS1>	Everyone gets it in the end
Apr 24 18:44:13 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont do anal
Apr 24 18:44:15 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 24 18:44:17 <augustocroppo>	I think this concept of "free" market is just a fictional idea...
Apr 24 18:44:20 <jurov>	and it isn't always most effective anyway.
Apr 24 18:44:21 <mod6>	does -anal come with fees?
Apr 24 18:44:28 <KRS1>	in one way or another, jack
Apr 24 18:44:34 <mod6>	;D
Apr 24 18:44:38 <KRS1>	lol
Apr 24 18:45:08 <MJR_>	well...since i said it is a system, which is what you disagreed with, systems are abstract concepts...the current implementation of our economy has some features that are based on a free market economy
Apr 24 18:45:19 <truff1es>	<augustocroppo> join #bitcoin-analysis more discussions that you desire imo
Apr 24 18:45:49 <MJR_>	anyway, since anyone can create software to use the bitcoin protocol, people will create the best one, as long as its worthwhile for them
Apr 24 18:45:55 <ThickAsThieves>	careful, if you arent predicting where the price is going, btc-anal crew gets antsy
Apr 24 18:46:12 <MJR_>	since anyone can start a mining pool, the best mining pool will win
Apr 24 18:46:20 <MJR_>	etc
Apr 24 18:46:28 <augustocroppo>	Thank you by the tip, I am lost in the Freenode server...
Apr 24 18:46:30 <MJR_>	everyone is free to compete with everyone
Apr 24 18:46:38 <jurov>	nope.easiest one will win
Apr 24 18:46:42 <truff1es>	yea there are many channels for bitcoin
Apr 24 18:46:42 <ThickAsThieves>	^
Apr 24 18:46:54 <MJR_>	lol, bitcoin is slowly taking over freenode
Apr 24 18:47:27 <ThickAsThieves>	or the most promoted pool, or the 'coolest' pool
Apr 24 18:47:30 <jurov>	yea. "don't call me skynet. i'm gribble."
Apr 24 18:47:43 <jurov>	;;gribble
Apr 24 18:47:43 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Apr 24 18:47:46 <MJR_>	if your promotion or your marketing cause you to get the most people to join, its the best
Apr 24 18:47:50 <truff1es>	im not sure what the discussion was about, free market rules in bitcoin?
Apr 24 18:48:05 <ThickAsThieves>	its about nothing at this point
Apr 24 18:48:16 <jurov>	about cats
Apr 24 18:48:21 <MJR_>	basically...decentralized vs centralized (why a coin controlled by paypal is pointless, and if they don't control it, they are not adding any value)
Apr 24 18:48:34 <ThickAsThieves>	started with whether paypal would use bitcoin somehow, or make their own coin
Apr 24 18:48:37 <ThickAsThieves>	and whether or why
Apr 24 18:48:54 <truff1es>	hmmm
Apr 24 18:49:02 <truff1es>	why does bitcoin ned to be controlled...
Apr 24 18:49:05 <truff1es>	need
Apr 24 18:49:06 <MJR_>	it doesn't
Apr 24 18:49:09 <ThickAsThieves>	it doesnt
Apr 24 18:49:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
Apr 24 18:49:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-]
Apr 24 18:49:28 <MJR_>	that is the best feature of it in my opinion, that it isn't controlled
Apr 24 18:49:37 <ThickAsThieves>	except that it sorta is
Apr 24 18:49:42 <ThickAsThieves>	:P
Apr 24 18:49:43 <MJR_>	again...?
Apr 24 18:49:43 <kakobrekla>	aw shutup
Apr 24 18:49:59 <truff1es>	i like paypal, its very user friendly
Apr 24 18:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4548 BTC [+]
Apr 24 18:50:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4548 = 2.7288 BTC [+]
Apr 24 18:50:05 <MJR_>	i think we just disagree on what control is
Apr 24 18:50:17 <ThickAsThieves>	paypal could make bitcoin "user friendly"
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Apr 24 18:50:29 <truff1es>	how
Apr 24 18:50:30 <MJR_>	since i don't have to use bitcoin-qt, they don't control me
Apr 24 18:50:42 <MJR_>	and i agree that paypal accepting bitcoin could be a good thing
Apr 24 18:50:48 <ThickAsThieves>	by integrating it with their own system
Apr 24 18:50:54 <MJR_>	^^agree
Apr 24 18:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4548 BTC [+]
Apr 24 18:51:05 <ThickAsThieves>	you dont need a wallet or to understand anything about bitcoin
Apr 24 18:51:12 <ThickAsThieves>	if paypal just adds it to your account
Apr 24 18:51:13 <MJR_>	point is, if i don't like paypal's policies i don't have to use them either
Apr 24 18:51:35 <MJR_>	if i want to send money to silk road, and paypal says no, i can still just do it myself
Apr 24 18:51:57 <MJR_>	if i don't like that paypal reverses transactions, i simply don't use them
Apr 24 18:52:06 <MJR_>	they could reverse bitcoin transactions if they hold the account
Apr 24 18:52:14 <MJR_>	some people would appreciate that
Apr 24 18:52:22 <ThickAsThieves>	good point
Apr 24 18:52:27 <truff1es>	paypal would make bitcoin more popular other than that..
Apr 24 18:52:38 <MJR_>	it would
Apr 24 18:52:53 <MJR_>	i think it may even eventually be necessary for paypal to integrate with bitcoin
Apr 24 18:53:10 <MJR_>	but the point is that they are just as free as anyone else to adopt the protocol
Apr 24 18:53:24 <KRS1>	how could the network keep pace with all the transactions..as it is, it takes my btc 30 mins minimum
Apr 24 18:53:25 <ThickAsThieves>	paypal introcuding reversable transactions to "verfied" Xcoin accounts would be seen as a great feature to some
Apr 24 18:53:36 <ThickAsThieves>	paypal could mitigate that as well
Apr 24 18:53:40 <MJR_>	you could do that with bitcoins
Apr 24 18:53:54 <MJR_>	or any bank really
Apr 24 18:53:57 <KRS1>	visa transactions for instance get recorded at mind boggling speeds and numbers
Apr 24 18:53:59 <MJR_>	i just take it out of your account
Apr 24 18:54:23 <KRS1>	they can barely make computers/networks to keep up with them all
Apr 24 18:54:24 <MJR_>	you could also use bitcoins for fractional reserve banking
Apr 24 18:54:28 <KRS1>	i couldnt see bitcoin doing that
Apr 24 18:54:36 <MJR_>	bitcoin doesn't do anything
Apr 24 18:54:38 <MJR_>	it just exists
Apr 24 18:54:48 <KRS1>	dont the transactions go through the network
Apr 24 18:54:49 <MJR_>	everyone is free to do what they want with it
Apr 24 18:54:51 <KRS1>	or blockchain
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Apr 24 18:55:28 <ThickAsThieves>	they dont have to if the coins are within a service
Apr 24 18:55:30 <MJR_>	yes, they do...and the network doesn't care what transactions you do...the point of anyone like paypal creating reversible transactions is that they hold your account...they don't need to put that on the blockchain
Apr 24 18:55:36 <MJR_>	like mt. gox currently does
Apr 24 18:56:01 <ThickAsThieves>	like every exchange does i think
Apr 24 18:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.4548 = 8.6412 BTC [+]
Apr 24 18:56:04 <MJR_>	in fact, eventually a small portion of all transactions will go to the blockchain
Apr 24 18:56:05 <ThickAsThieves>	inluding BTCT, etc
Apr 24 18:56:30 <MJR_>	most will simply be accounting entries in businesses, the same way the current economy works
Apr 24 18:56:31 <ThickAsThieves>	everyone except satoshidice
Apr 24 18:56:33 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 24 18:56:37 <MJR_>	for now...
Apr 24 18:56:40 <MJR_>	;)
Apr 24 18:56:43 <ThickAsThieves>	indeed
Apr 24 18:57:15 <truff1es>	 <MJR_> in fact, eventually a small portion of all transactions will go to the blockchain>> please elaborate
Apr 24 18:57:23 <MJR_>	so, if i can attract people to my bank, where i won't keep a bitcoin to back every bitcoin credit you have in your account...i can do that
Apr 24 18:57:24 <KRS1>	all im sayin is it takes a bunch of time for a bitcoin transaction to go through..credit card transactions are as fast as lightning
Apr 24 18:57:38 <MJR_>	mt gox transfers are fast as lightning
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Apr 24 18:57:54 <ThickAsThieves>	;;goxlag
Apr 24 18:57:54 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Apr 24 18:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.41750001 = 1.2525 BTC [-]
Apr 24 18:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4175 = 0.835 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 18:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.40001001 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Apr 24 18:58:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.40001 = 3.2001 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 18:58:39 <MJR_>	for truff1es and KRS1: even though the transaction seems fast on your side, visa doesn't actually move the money when you swipe the card...that process usually takes place when the business gets the deposit from the bank that used visa or mastercard
Apr 24 18:58:43 <KRS1>	ic
Apr 24 18:58:49 <KRS1>	thats true
Apr 24 18:58:54 <MJR_>	that process can take a lot longer than a day
Apr 24 18:59:16 <MJR_>	not to put too fine a point on it, but visa and mastercard don't actually deal with money at all
Apr 24 18:59:17 <KRS1>	so its customer -> your service/network -> bitcoin for the end transaction -> bitcoin
Apr 24 18:59:35 <MJR_>	they are transaction networks
Apr 24 18:59:40 <KRS1>	right
Apr 24 18:59:46 <ThickAsThieves>	basically its only bitcoin when you move the money out of their system
Apr 24 18:59:49 <MJR_>	a "visa card" is not issued by visa...a bank issues it
Apr 24 18:59:55 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 24 18:59:55 <error4733>	a new toy ! http://www.btcoracle.com/
Apr 24 19:00:11 <MJR_>	in the same way that if i deposit money in my bank account, they don't store that cash in a box with my name on it
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Apr 24 19:01:01 <MJR_>	that is basically how fractional reserve banking started...
Apr 24 19:01:17 <MJR_>	and you can do that with bitcoin, if you can convince people to deposit their money into your care
Apr 24 19:02:48 <truff1es>	complicated stuff itc
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Apr 24 19:03:16 <truff1es>	<ThickAsThieves> basically its only bitcoin when you move the money out of their system>> whose system?
Apr 24 19:03:30 <Diablo-D3>	your mother.
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Apr 24 19:03:43 <MJR_>	mt gox for example
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Apr 24 19:04:18 <MJR_>	the coins you have on mt. gox are technically more like coin certificates...
Apr 24 19:04:19 <truff1es>	no idea how it works there so im just going with what is said itc
Apr 24 19:04:29 <MJR_>	yes, i agree
Apr 24 19:05:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.44999979 = 2.25 BTC [+]
Apr 24 19:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4499998 = 2.25 BTC [+]
Apr 24 19:05:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.455 = 14.105 BTC [+]
Apr 24 19:05:24 <MJR_>	just saying, the fact you don't know the private key to the address you send to (correct me if that is not the case) means that you have given up control over your coins and are trusting them to send them where you want, when you want
Apr 24 19:06:22 <truff1es>	so it acts like an intermediary
Apr 24 19:06:28 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 24 19:06:47 <truff1es>	for trading purposes right
Apr 24 19:06:55 <MJR_>	simple rule of thumb, if you konw the private key, they are yours, if you don't you are trusting someone to do as you wish in the future
Apr 24 19:07:13 <ThickAsThieves>	blockchain.info is in between
Apr 24 19:07:22 <MJR_>	truff1es: yes, intermediary
Apr 24 19:07:27 <ThickAsThieves>	they *share* the private key with you
Apr 24 19:07:54 <MJR_>	and yes, blockchain.info's mywallet's CLAIM (and no reason to doubt this so far) that they do not know your private key
Apr 24 19:07:56 <truff1es>	private key of other end user?
Apr 24 19:08:06 <MJR_>	no private key to the address you have with them
Apr 24 19:08:21 <MJR_>	they encrypt in your browser, not on their server
Apr 24 19:08:35 <kakobrekla>	you can check js sauce?
Apr 24 19:08:44 <MJR_>	not sure...haven't checked
Apr 24 19:08:46 <ThickAsThieves>	they must store in a server somewhere
Apr 24 19:08:56 <ThickAsThieves>	i can sign into blockchain from anywhere
Apr 24 19:08:58 <MJR_>	they can store the wallet.dat encrypted
Apr 24 19:08:58 <error4733>	they send backup by mail
Apr 24 19:09:06 <MJR_>	and they have no access to it
Apr 24 19:09:14 <truff1es>	im not getting it, why do that when everyone has wallet.dat's?
Apr 24 19:09:46 <MJR_>	huh? your wallet.dat file is stored on their server so you can access it from anywhere using a browser
Apr 24 19:10:00 <truff1es>	ok
Apr 24 19:10:02 <MJR_>	it is encrypted using a passphrase that only you know
Apr 24 19:10:11 <truff1es>	so for protection?
Apr 24 19:10:27 <MJR_>	so, if their system is honest and does what they say it does, they have no ability to send your coins
Apr 24 19:11:21 <MJR_>	in effect, they are providing the service of access to your wallet.dat file from anywhere, as well as a client software that can craft transactions for you, but they do not have the ability to spend your coins
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Apr 24 19:11:44 <ThickAsThieves>	how do they accomplish their mixing service?
Apr 24 19:11:54 <MJR_>	for a similar system (there are many) look at kim dotcom's MEGA
Apr 24 19:12:08 <truff1es>	okay thanks for the explainations
Apr 24 19:12:15 <MJR_>	i think you have to specifically mix the coins, and in that case you are trusting them to send coins where you asked them to be sent
Apr 24 19:12:22 <MJR_>	they charge a fee for that
Apr 24 19:12:47 <MJR_>	the mixing service is not the same as their mywallet product
Apr 24 19:13:14 <ThickAsThieves>	isnt the mixing service in their wallets too?
Apr 24 19:13:26 <ThickAsThieves>	i think it's called Shared Send or sumth
Apr 24 19:13:27 <MJR_>	...no, i don't think it could be
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Apr 24 19:13:39 <MJR_>	the wallet is not a transaction
Apr 24 19:13:53 <MJR_>	if you choose to send the coins, you are crafting a transaction
Apr 24 19:13:53 *	neofutur` is now known as joecool
Apr 24 19:14:14 <MJR_>	the transaction is where you are specifying that you will send THEM the coins, and trust them to forward them where you want them to go
Apr 24 19:14:17 *	joecool is now known as joecool`
Apr 24 19:14:24 <truff1es>	uncool
Apr 24 19:14:32 <MJR_>	well, it has its uses
Apr 24 19:14:42 *	joecool` is now known as joecool
Apr 24 19:14:44 <truff1es>	talking about joecool
Apr 24 19:14:47 <MJR_>	if you need a higher level of guaranteed anonymity, it is a great idea
Apr 24 19:14:51 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 24 19:15:25 <MJR_>	but of course you should probably use a nice big round number, or a bunch of 1btc transactions
Apr 24 19:15:37 <MJR_>	or else it would be simple to see where the coins end up
Apr 24 19:15:37 <joecool>	truff1es: oh i was trying to scam on neofutur's nick
Apr 24 19:15:47 <joecool>	backquotes are all the rage for scamming atm
Apr 24 19:16:07 <truff1es>	ok gl
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Apr 24 19:17:53 <MJR_>	i think eventually, there will be the equivalent of "lawyers" for crafting really complicated transactions
Apr 24 19:17:58 <MJR_>	multisig etc
Apr 24 19:18:01 <truff1es>	so what i learned today, mt gox is good for easy access to wallets
Apr 24 19:18:14 <MJR_>	yeah
Apr 24 19:18:29 <MJR_>	it usually comes down to convenience vs security
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Apr 24 19:18:48 <MJR_>	it is very convenient to use a wallet you dn't control...but if they are hacked your coins are gone
Apr 24 19:19:21 <MJR_>	but it is really inconvenient to go to a safe deposit box to get a paper wallet you left there, but you will almost certainly not be hacked
Apr 24 19:19:21 <truff1es>	they being mt gox?
Apr 24 19:19:28 <MJR_>	whoever you trust
Apr 24 19:20:17 <truff1es>	id be nervous if i had a lot of digital money these days
Apr 24 19:20:22 <truff1es>	lots of hacking afoot
Apr 24 19:20:32 <MJR_>	so that is the tradeoff...how much convenience or security do you need, the best way is to keep large portions in a paper wallet. a little bit on your home computer encrypted, and spending money in an online wallet
Apr 24 19:20:41 <joecool>	you do know you could just encrypt your wallet.dat and store offline or online in multiple spots easily
Apr 24 19:20:50 <MJR_>	joecool: yes
Apr 24 19:21:08 <MJR_>	but every copy means one more copy that COULD be compromised
Apr 24 19:21:17 <joecool>	i guess
Apr 24 19:21:25 <MJR_>	joecool: i don't have a paper wallet
Apr 24 19:21:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.003333 = 0.0267 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 19:21:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.01629 = 0.0815 BTC [-]
Apr 24 19:22:00 <error4733>	u gonna have a baaaad time
Apr 24 19:22:10 <MJR_>	i am just saying, if i had 11,000 bitcoins...10,500 would be only accessible with a multisig transaction with the horcruxes split up into 7 locations lol
Apr 24 19:22:31 <joecool>	seems like a solid thing to do
Apr 24 19:22:32 <MJR_>	error4733: i don't hold a lot of bitcoins...i have bitcoin denominated assets
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Apr 24 19:22:46 <joecool>	the biggest loss i had was in that whole bitcoinica debacle
Apr 24 19:22:47 <MJR_>	check out the winklevii security system
Apr 24 19:23:11 <joecool>	pretty much don't put your coin in anything you don't manage if you can't stand to lose it
Apr 24 19:23:14 <mod6>	joecool: you got zhou tong'd!?
Apr 24 19:23:19 <joecool>	p.much
Apr 24 19:23:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00071 = 6.1415 BTC [+]
Apr 24 19:23:28 <mod6>	dang
Apr 24 19:23:30 <MJR_>	he's back by the way
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Apr 24 19:23:35 <jurov>	mjr_ these? http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/blog/the-winklevii-strike-again-to-corner-the-bitcoin-market
Apr 24 19:23:37 <MJR_>	just saw him on bitcointalk
Apr 24 19:23:41 <joecool>	MJR_: i thought he was in hiding
Apr 24 19:23:45 <joecool>	i would be if i were him
Apr 24 19:23:49 <mod6>	he's a scammer, and should be labeled as such
Apr 24 19:24:06 <joecool>	someone's probably gonna kill him if he shows his face in public
Apr 24 19:24:26 <joecool>	sure someone didn't just jack his account?
Apr 24 19:24:46 <mod6>	;;tslb
Apr 24 19:24:51 <MJR_>	saved them on small flash drives, putting the drives, in turn, in safe deposit boxes at banks in three different cities.
Apr 24 19:24:53 <gribble>	Time since last block: 5 minutes and 19 seconds
Apr 24 19:25:03 <MJR_>	thats what they did with their 11,000 coins
Apr 24 19:25:29 <joecool>	;;goxlag
Apr 24 19:25:30 <MJR_>	it didn't specify if it was a n of m scheme, but i thought i read that somewhere
Apr 24 19:25:30 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.059392 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00212300970646 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 24 19:25:36 <Scrat>	MJR_: no encryption?
Apr 24 19:25:52 <MJR_>	Scrat: didn't specify in this article, but almost guaranteed to be encrypted
Apr 24 19:26:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 18 @ 0.01629 = 0.2932 BTC [-]
Apr 24 19:26:20 <MJR_>	anyways, i heard from credible sources that zuckerberg already matched them
Apr 24 19:26:42 <Scrat>	n of m (ssss) with encryption for the ultimate paranoia
Apr 24 19:26:49 <MJR_>	Scrat: yep
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Apr 24 19:27:04 <MJR_>	it also makes it seem cool, since they are like horcruxes
Apr 24 19:27:16 <MJR_>	assuming of course that you think harry potter is cool lol
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Apr 24 19:28:49 <Scrat>	imagine what will happen if facebook adds person to person bitcoin payments
Apr 24 19:29:08 <Scrat>	(which technically noone will give a shit about)
Apr 24 19:29:12 <Scrat>	but imagine the hype
Apr 24 19:29:39 <Scrat>	and lol at "credible sources"
Apr 24 19:29:45 <tiberiusiv>	nothing will happen
Apr 24 19:29:55 <Scrat>	hello tiberiusiv
Apr 24 19:30:13 <Scrat>	i ate beans today
Apr 24 19:30:17 <Scrat>	I've been farting all day
Apr 24 19:30:35 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin isnt that cheap anymore
Apr 24 19:30:51 <tiberiusiv>	1.7billion market cap is enough to support a 100billion dollar economy
Apr 24 19:31:41 <tiberiusiv>	even if facebook adopted btc at this point it wouldnt matter much
Apr 24 19:32:07 <MJR_>	well, rumor, but i believe it
Apr 24 19:32:21 <Namworld>	The market cap is huge... people keep buying
Apr 24 19:32:30 <MJR_>	the money it would take to buy 11,000 is trivial to zuckerberg...and i'm sure he wouldn't want to be beaten to some new tech thing by them
Apr 24 19:32:42 <tiberiusiv>	namworld that means someone would be selling.
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Apr 24 19:33:00 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin isnt cheap anymore
Apr 24 19:33:09 <pizzaman1337>	;;market buy 11000
Apr 24 19:33:12 <gribble>	A market order to buy 11000 bitcoins right now would take 1770138.2261 USD and would take the last price up to 166.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 160.9217 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Apr 24 19:33:43 <tiberiusiv>	i highly doubt 266 is surpassed this year
Apr 24 19:33:50 <tiberiusiv>	and even 2-3 years from now
Apr 24 19:33:54 <Scrat>	;;ticker --last
Apr 24 19:33:55 <gribble>	154.80000
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Apr 24 19:34:29 <tiberiusiv>	the depth will probably continue to increase
Apr 24 19:34:33 <tiberiusiv>	making transfers more viable
Apr 24 19:35:07 <tiberiusiv>	at the end of the day bitcoin is a sterile asset it generates 0 income
Apr 24 19:35:18 <tiberiusiv>	more of a placeholder
Apr 24 19:35:44 <mircea_popescu>	one thing to keep in mind is the dynamics of it
Apr 24 19:35:46 <Namworld>	I don't see what we'd do with so much market cap. Not enough transactions backing it. Mostly speculative "storing of value"
Apr 24 19:35:54 <mircea_popescu>	market buy only tells you the state of the book.
Apr 24 19:36:10 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld store of value and speculation are strictly distinct.
Apr 24 19:36:22 <tiberiusiv>	theres no such thing as store of value
Apr 24 19:36:26 <tiberiusiv>	all value is subjective
Apr 24 19:36:39 <MJR_>	^^this
Apr 24 19:36:42 <tiberiusiv>	placeholder is more appropriate term
Apr 24 19:36:50 <jurov>	$avg
Apr 24 19:36:52 <mpexbot>	jurov: 150.44
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Apr 24 19:40:38 <Namworld>	Considering how well BTC seems to be a good store of value, I think anyone doing a store of value is speculating.
Apr 24 19:41:13 <Namworld>	They're putting it aside, thinking it will probably keep increasing in value over time due to limited supply.
Apr 24 19:46:16 <tiberiusiv>	how is BTC a good store of value namworld?
Apr 24 19:46:27 <tiberiusiv>	its value changes every 10minutes by a wide margin
Apr 24 19:46:54 <tiberiusiv>	you never were very bright
Apr 24 19:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	in a very simple sense, the speculator takes a position in the expectation that with the passage of time the price of bitcoin will vary
Apr 24 19:47:43 <mircea_popescu>	the store of value user takes a position with the expectation that with the passage of time the price of bitcoin will not vary.
Apr 24 19:47:47 <mircea_popescu>	they are literally antithetical.
Apr 24 19:53:39 <Namworld>	Yeah, but people seem to be doing both
Apr 24 19:53:50 <tiberiusiv>	theres no such thing as a store of value
Apr 24 19:53:58 <tiberiusiv>	since value is completely subjective and time based
Apr 24 19:54:10 <Namworld>	I'm not saying I'm agreeing with what's occuring
Apr 24 19:54:13 <tiberiusiv>	can you provide an example of anything that has been a "store of value" over the last 50 years?
Apr 24 19:54:54 <tiberiusiv>	or the last 200?
Apr 24 19:55:28 <error4733>	diamond ?
Apr 24 19:55:40 <tiberiusiv>	diamonds are not liquid
Apr 24 19:55:47 <tiberiusiv>	the bid/ask spreads are massive
Apr 24 19:56:01 <tiberiusiv>	point is theres no such thing as a store of value since value is always subjective
Apr 24 19:56:10 <tiberiusiv>	whats valuable to you is different then whats valuable to me
Apr 24 19:57:10 <error4733>	fact is we can conceptualise a money now, not 200 years ago
Apr 24 19:57:36 <tiberiusiv>	what are you talking about?
Apr 24 19:57:48 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoins "value" changes every second
Apr 24 19:57:54 <tiberiusiv>	how does it STORE value?
Apr 24 19:58:13 <pizzaman1337>	well, it stores value, maybe it doesn't retain it
Apr 24 19:58:13 <tiberiusiv>	theres no such thing as a STORE of value since everyones definition of value is different.
Apr 24 19:58:21 <tiberiusiv>	can you comprehend that concept?
Apr 24 19:58:36 <tiberiusiv>	it doesnt store it, its value is simply based on what someone wants to trade for it
Apr 24 19:58:39 <tiberiusiv>	at a given time
Apr 24 19:58:51 <tiberiusiv>	what people want to trade for it now can be different in 1 hour or 1 day or 1 year
Apr 24 19:59:00 <tiberiusiv>	that applies to anything
Apr 24 19:59:01 <error4733>	yes, but many asset value change every second
Apr 24 19:59:05 <tiberiusiv>	hence why store of value is bullshit
Apr 24 19:59:11 <tiberiusiv>	yes dumbass thats what i said.
Apr 24 19:59:19 <tiberiusiv>	theres NOTHING that stores value since its SUBJECTIVE
Apr 24 20:00:07 <error4733>	coffee, cigarete ? you need something ?
Apr 24 20:00:12 *	truff1es thinks stream is coming out of tiberiusiv head
Apr 24 20:00:34 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoins "utility" comes from its ability to act as a payment system + go around artificial barriers created by government in finance
Apr 24 20:00:58 <tiberiusiv>	if a free market had existed in finance/money bitcoin would never have been developed in the first place
Apr 24 20:01:10 <tiberiusiv>	as there would be 0 need for it
Apr 24 20:01:19 <tiberiusiv>	it exists purely as a result of government intervention in the marketplace
Apr 24 20:01:33 <error4733>	+ a limited supply
Apr 24 20:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 24 20:01:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 154.89999, Best ask: 154.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09001, Last trade: 154.89999, 24 hour volume: 225856.02255002, 24 hour low: 140.96635, 24 hour high: 166.43438, 24 hour vwap: 152.06850
Apr 24 20:02:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8439 BTC [+]
Apr 24 20:02:16 <tiberiusiv>	limited supply has nothing to do with what i said.
Apr 24 20:02:19 <tiberiusiv>	shutup error4733
Apr 24 20:02:28 <tiberiusiv>	speak when you know what you are talking about
Apr 24 20:02:38 <tiberiusiv>	value is always subjective nothing stores it
Apr 24 20:02:54 <truff1es>	opinion isnt too subjective either
Apr 24 20:03:01 <tiberiusiv>	its not an opinion
Apr 24 20:03:04 <tiberiusiv>	its provable fact.
Apr 24 20:03:13 <tiberiusiv>	a market would not exist if value was a constant
Apr 24 20:03:35 <truff1es>	its not possible to create another one just because people want to?
Apr 24 20:03:49 <tiberiusiv>	if value was constant people wouldnt be trading
Apr 24 20:03:51 <tiberiusiv>	duh.
Apr 24 20:03:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1749 BTC [+]
Apr 24 20:04:20 <tiberiusiv>	when you purchase gasoline at a gas station, the gasoline is more valuable to you then to the gas station owner
Apr 24 20:04:26 <tiberiusiv>	hence why hes exchanging with you.
Apr 24 20:04:45 <tiberiusiv>	its value is not constant
Apr 24 20:04:54 <tiberiusiv>	or else the exchange would never occur
Apr 24 20:05:15 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is the same as is everything
Apr 24 20:05:31 <truff1es>	what if i had an electric car but i like using the other sometimes couldnt be bothered if it ran or not
Apr 24 20:05:34 <tiberiusiv>	saving bitcoin is more of saving a placeholder
Apr 24 20:05:57 <tiberiusiv>	a subjective claim on goods/services
Apr 24 20:06:18 <tiberiusiv>	the reason bitcoin is not a good "money" yet, is its not that saleable
Apr 24 20:06:27 <tiberiusiv>	ie its not very liquid at a given time
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Apr 24 20:06:43 <error4733>	;;eightball tiberiusiv sold all his coin at 55$ two weeks ago  ?
Apr 24 20:06:43 <gribble>	One would be wise to think so.
Apr 24 20:06:54 <truff1es>	heh
Apr 24 20:06:58 <tiberiusiv>	error4733 actually i was in here on record buying @ 55.
Apr 24 20:07:02 <tiberiusiv>	read channel logs dumbass
Apr 24 20:07:22 <tiberiusiv>	people in here are confused on a great many things
Apr 24 20:07:31 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv is wrong
Apr 24 20:07:36 <thestringpuller>	and what did we say tiberiusiv
Apr 24 20:07:44 <thestringpuller>	you have no skin in the game so you can't talk
Apr 24 20:07:46 <truff1es>	the points make sense but i wouldnt call it fact
Apr 24 20:07:46 <tiberiusiv>	why are you talking again?
Apr 24 20:07:49 <tiberiusiv>	broke people cant talk
Apr 24 20:07:52 <thestringpuller>	WHY ARE YOU TALKING?
Apr 24 20:07:56 <tiberiusiv>	truffles: it is fact you can prove it.
Apr 24 20:07:58 <thestringpuller>	You are the broke person.
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Apr 24 20:08:10 <truff1es>	prove it
Apr 24 20:08:15 <tiberiusiv>	i already did
Apr 24 20:08:26 <tiberiusiv>	if bitcoin was a store of value there would be no market.
Apr 24 20:08:39 <tiberiusiv>	theres nothing that is a store of value because the concept is wrong
Apr 24 20:08:41 <error4733>	gold is a store of value ?
Apr 24 20:08:42 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: if your mom was a store of value there would be a huge market.
Apr 24 20:08:44 <tiberiusiv>	read carl menger
Apr 24 20:08:45 <truff1es>	conclusion doesnt follow
Apr 24 20:08:50 <tiberiusiv>	gold is NOT a store of value
Apr 24 20:08:58 <thestringpuller>	gold is a store of value!
Apr 24 20:09:01 <tiberiusiv>	do you have a problem reading error?
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Apr 24 20:09:18 <tiberiusiv>	i outlined since value is purely subjective to the individual, NOTHING stores value.
Apr 24 20:09:41 <tiberiusiv>	golds *value* has fluctuated by a massive range historically
Apr 24 20:09:53 <tiberiusiv>	just as everything has
Apr 24 20:10:24 <error4733>	ok give me for you a good exemple for a store value ?
Apr 24 20:10:34 <tiberiusiv>	man are you stupid?
Apr 24 20:10:41 <tiberiusiv>	i just said nothing exists becuase the concept is wrong
Apr 24 20:10:50 <tiberiusiv>	read carl menger on value.
Apr 24 20:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Apr 24 20:11:37 <orkaa>	everything is a store of value, it's just that the clock is ticking
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Apr 24 20:11:52 <tiberiusiv>	value is subjective
Apr 24 20:11:53 <kakobrekla>	and orkaa is getting older
Apr 24 20:12:14 <tiberiusiv>	theres no guarantee what you value today you will value tomorrow.
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Apr 24 20:12:26 <tiberiusiv>	hence why a market exists.
Apr 24 20:12:31 <error4733>	ok, have fun in your parallel universe
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Apr 24 20:14:04 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoins limited supply is merely a mechanism to ensure purchasing power isnt stolen by a party through inflation
Apr 24 20:14:20 <tiberiusiv>	right now all bitcoin holders are transfering purchasing power to miners annually
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Apr 24 20:14:38 <tiberiusiv>	to "subsidize" the network
Apr 24 20:14:48 <tiberiusiv>	hence its not true that bitcoin is free to use
Apr 24 20:15:23 <mircea_popescu>	so a coupla weeks ago i followed a dozen or so domme bitchez on twitter
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Apr 24 20:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	finally gave up and unfollowed them. man they're boring.
Apr 24 20:15:46 <orkaa>	domme bitchez?
Apr 24 20:15:50 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: haha
Apr 24 20:16:38 <mircea_popescu>	orkaa ya
Apr 24 20:17:30 <orkaa>	what's domme?
Apr 24 20:18:00 <orkaa>	ah, dominatrix stuff
Apr 24 20:18:01 <thestringpuller>	dumb
Apr 24 20:18:04 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 24 20:18:05 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 24 20:19:41 <mircea_popescu>	it's like... one of the many services women provide. like making sandwiches or dressing up as french maids.
Apr 24 20:20:00 <orkaa>	i kinda hate domme scene
Apr 24 20:20:04 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Apr 24 20:20:10 <orkaa>	every video gets better and better and better
Apr 24 20:20:13 <orkaa>	and then it ends
Apr 24 20:20:18 <orkaa>	they don't ever fuck, fuck
Apr 24 20:20:38 <mircea_popescu>	well afaik it's mostly for people who don't fuck so  well.
Apr 24 20:21:29 <orkaa>	haha
Apr 24 20:25:01 <orkaa>	my argument also stands for latex porn
Apr 24 20:25:08 <orkaa>	they don't fuck
Apr 24 20:25:18 <orkaa>	or if they do, it's the guy that's getting it
Apr 24 20:25:31 <truff1es>	why arent you guys in #bitcoin-nsfw !
Apr 24 20:25:31 <kakobrekla>	reminds me of decafinated coffee
Apr 24 20:25:50 <kakobrekla>	why arent you in #bitcoin-troll
Apr 24 20:25:52 <mircea_popescu>	i've fucked girls in latex
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Apr 24 20:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	most suits have this detachable bottom bit, sorta like kid spielhosen
Apr 24 20:27:04 <orkaa>	i know, that's why i'm so surprised the hole isn't used so often
Apr 24 20:27:21 <thestringpuller>	PayPal President 'Thinking About' Including Bitcoin.
Apr 24 20:27:30 <thestringpuller>	lol
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Apr 24 20:27:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1981 = 0.3962 BTC [+]
Apr 24 20:28:43 <mircea_popescu>	only problem with latex is it kinda gets the girl sweating
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Apr 24 20:29:15 <ThickAsThieves>	smells good?
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Apr 24 20:29:28 <orkaa>	ThickAsThieves, it wouldn't be a problem then
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Apr 24 20:30:09 <mircea_popescu>	sweat only smells bad after a while
Apr 24 20:30:12 <mircea_popescu>	much like piss
Apr 24 20:30:20 <ThickAsThieves>	but when she unleashes her spielhosen
Apr 24 20:31:20 <orkaa>	mircea_popescu, piss pretty much smells bad right away
Apr 24 20:31:29 *	orkaa had some asparagus today
Apr 24 20:31:38 <thestringpuller>	ewww
Apr 24 20:31:38 <ThickAsThieves>	well if you eat aparagus
Apr 24 20:31:42 <thestringpuller>	this is where I go play video games
Apr 24 20:32:14 <truff1es>	what game?
Apr 24 20:32:21 <thestringpuller>	Metro 2033
Apr 24 20:32:32 <thestringpuller>	In russia apocalypse find you
Apr 24 20:32:33 <truff1es>	k
Apr 24 20:32:45 <truff1es>	im stuck on black ops2
Apr 24 20:34:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.16 = 5.8 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 20:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9752 @ 0.00070367 = 6.8622 BTC [-]
Apr 24 20:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00071 = 6.6385 BTC [+]
Apr 24 20:48:50 <mircea_popescu>	lmao so apparently there's a huge hole in wp super cache,
Apr 24 20:49:04 <mircea_popescu>	<!–mfunc echo PHP_VERSION; –><!–/mfunc–> as a comment allows rce
Apr 24 20:49:55 <ThickAsThieves>	just what wp needs, more holes
Apr 24 20:50:42 <mircea_popescu>	schwpeitzer!
Apr 24 20:50:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3698 @ 0.00071384 = 2.6398 BTC [+]
Apr 24 20:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 10 @ 1.33597 = 13.3597 BTC [+]
Apr 24 20:57:22 <sharktopuz>	anyone want a chance to win a free Bitcoin ?
Apr 24 20:57:25 <sharktopuz>	join http://glados.cc/coinchat/r:loldong
Apr 24 20:57:31 <KRS1>	i'm good
Apr 24 20:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.839 BTC [-]
Apr 24 20:58:13 <truff1es>	danieldaniel...
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Apr 24 20:59:16 <truff1es>	chatting to just chat?
Apr 24 20:59:21 <sharktopuz>	nope
Apr 24 20:59:21 <sharktopuz>	not daniel daniel
Apr 24 20:59:27 <sharktopuz>	but hi tradefortress
Apr 24 20:59:37 <sharktopuz>	i just posted a link to the chat here
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Apr 24 20:59:45 <TradeFortress>	lol -.-
Apr 24 21:00:29 <truff1es>	i do like chatting but even i have a tolerance...
Apr 24 21:00:48 <thestringpuller>	where did mircea go?
Apr 24 21:01:02 <truff1es>	to his Romanian hole!
Apr 24 21:01:05 <thestringpuller>	good
Apr 24 21:01:09 <thestringpuller>	he makes us look bad
Apr 24 21:01:09 <thestringpuller>	jkjk
Apr 24 21:01:11 <TradeFortress>	^
Apr 24 21:01:18 <thestringpuller>	"STUPID DOG YOU MAKE ME LOOK BAD"
Apr 24 21:01:28 <thestringpuller>	.01 btc to the first person to understand that reference
Apr 24 21:01:34 <thestringpuller>	WITHOUT LOOKING IT UP
Apr 24 21:01:45 <truff1es>	...
Apr 24 21:01:48 <thestringpuller>	no one?
Apr 24 21:01:51 <thestringpuller>	I see
Apr 24 21:02:10 <thestringpuller>	Courage the Cowardly Dog anyone?
Apr 24 21:02:11 <truff1es>	anything below .5 or 1 bitcoin is just ugh
Apr 24 21:02:22 <thestringpuller>	are you kidding?
Apr 24 21:02:24 <truff1es>	know of it, dont watch it
Apr 24 21:02:26 <thestringpuller>	.01 btc is like a dollar
Apr 24 21:02:37 <truff1es>	i mean why bother..
Apr 24 21:05:26 <thestringpuller>	you must be a bitcoin millionaire
Apr 24 21:05:37 <thestringpuller>	a milli a milli a milli
Apr 24 21:05:42 <truff1es>	i dont have any bitcoins
Apr 24 21:05:45 <thestringpuller>	i'm bitoin milli on aire
Apr 24 21:05:57 <thestringpuller>	young BITCOIN BAAAAYBEEEE
Apr 24 21:06:53 <truff1es>	its just a pet peeve about throwing around pennies..
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Apr 24 21:11:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.13 = 4.52 BTC [-]
Apr 24 21:11:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.1202 = 22.404 BTC [-]
Apr 24 21:11:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1201 BTC [-]
Apr 24 21:11:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.12 = 2.24 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 21:15:30 <KRS1>	lmao i keep making the m.p. fluctuate within a dollar
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Apr 24 21:25:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.17 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 21:29:30 <sharktopuz>	BITCOIN GIVEAWAYS GOING ON RIGHT NOW
Apr 24 21:29:30 <sharktopuz>	http://glados.cc/coinchat/r:loldong
Apr 24 21:29:38 <sharktopuz>	join and talk for a chance to win free
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Apr 24 21:37:01 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 50
Apr 24 21:37:03 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds
Apr 24 21:37:05 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 24 21:37:06 <gribble>	There are currently 162359.74 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14454008.5108 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.2160 seconds
Apr 24 21:37:22 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 24 21:37:23 <gribble>	There are currently 47176.291 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 8384425.38565 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.2681 seconds
Apr 24 21:37:53 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: what did I say about you talking
Apr 24 21:38:36 <KRS1>	hehe
Apr 24 21:39:33 <KRS1>	i'm seeing a bouncing cat
Apr 24 21:40:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.292 = 0.876 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 21:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.4604 = 4.3812 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 21:52:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00071026 = 15.4837 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 22:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8487 BTC [+]
Apr 24 22:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.46 = 1.38 BTC [+]
Apr 24 22:05:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.46 = 1.84 BTC [+]
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Apr 24 22:14:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.0007091 = 6.0628 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 22:27:04 <thestringpuller>	where the fuck is everyone?
Apr 24 22:27:13 <thestringpuller>	off doing shady deals in other channels I see
Apr 24 22:27:59 <truff1es>	no
Apr 24 22:28:21 <truff1es>	im listening to a sermon
Apr 24 22:28:29 <thestringpuller>	...
Apr 24 22:28:35 <thestringpuller>	random
Apr 24 22:29:09 <truff1es>	yea yesterday there was talk about blasphemy being an unforgiveable sin
Apr 24 22:29:23 <truff1es>	its not so imo
Apr 24 22:30:01 <truff1es>	so now im listening to sermons, not random
Apr 24 22:30:21 <thestringpuller>	one of my favorite rap lines is: "Young hova to God nigga blasephemy, I'm at the Trump International ask for me."
Apr 24 22:31:22 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 24 22:31:23 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 154.10002, Best ask: 154.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.79998, Last trade: 154.90000, 24 hour volume: 221579.58033429, 24 hour low: 140.96635, 24 hour high: 166.43438, 24 hour vwap: 152.57454
Apr 24 22:32:20 <truff1es>	my conclusion: the argument is that if you blaspheme then you put urself in a place that lacks genuine repentance which would lead to the unforgiveable nature
Apr 24 22:32:44 <truff1es>	that quote i dont fully get
Apr 24 22:32:50 <truff1es>	but i think i get the jist
Apr 24 22:33:25 <truff1es>	gist*
Apr 24 22:33:45 <tiberiusiv>	truffles are you a protestant?
Apr 24 22:34:08 <truff1es>	im agnostic, but i kinda agree with some of protestant teachings
Apr 24 22:34:46 <tiberiusiv>	problem with protestants is since they initially broke off from the mother church they are all over the place
Apr 24 22:34:57 <tiberiusiv>	and have no set basis
Apr 24 22:35:05 <tiberiusiv>	hence the 50,000 denominations
Apr 24 22:35:22 <Diablo-D3>	truff1es: well
Apr 24 22:35:25 <Diablo-D3>	God has one commandment
Apr 24 22:35:30 <Diablo-D3>	dont be an asshole
Apr 24 22:35:34 <truff1es>	well i was trying to say that there were some fundamentals and forgiveness of all sins is there imo
Apr 24 22:35:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1161 BTC [-]
Apr 24 22:35:59 <tiberiusiv>	i dont think this channel is the place for that discussion truffles
Apr 24 22:36:05 <tiberiusiv>	nerdy athiests get agressive
Apr 24 22:36:16 <truff1es>	for sure
Apr 24 22:36:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11601 = 3.348 BTC [-]
Apr 24 22:36:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1981 BTC [+]
Apr 24 22:36:53 <truff1es>	i like arguing so :)
Apr 24 22:36:59 <truff1es>	debating*
Apr 24 22:39:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.0007 = 6.72 BTC [-]
Apr 24 22:39:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00069618 = 3.9682 BTC [-]
Apr 24 22:39:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.115 BTC [-]
Apr 24 22:39:39 <thestringpuller>	truff1es: my quote?
Apr 24 22:39:44 <thestringpuller>	that's a Jay-Z quote
Apr 24 22:39:54 <thestringpuller>	Jay-Z used to call himself the "God-MC"
Apr 24 22:39:56 <thestringpuller>	Jay-HOVA
Apr 24 22:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.292 BTC [-]
Apr 24 22:40:03 <thestringpuller>	Hence his nickname Hov
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Apr 24 22:41:46 <thestringpuller>	He states his younger self was ignorant and blasephemous to think as such, yet he has a permanent residence in the Trump International Tower in New York, NY.
Apr 24 22:41:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1115 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 22:43:26 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: nerdy atheist are usually teenagers trying to be cool...
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Apr 24 22:48:06 <joecool>	thestringpuller: i always thought it meant high occupancy vehicle and that he liked to carpool
Apr 24 22:48:23 <joecool>	http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll298/bigeoxio/hov.jpg < > http://rajivsatyal.com/wp-content/editorial/HOVlaneahead.png
Apr 24 22:48:53 <thestringpuller>	XD
Apr 24 22:48:54 <thestringpuller>	haha
Apr 24 22:49:00 <thestringpuller>	well now you know
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Apr 24 22:56:02 <joecool>	<Diablo-D3> dont be an asshole < lol from you
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Apr 24 23:04:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.171 = 0.684 BTC [-]
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Apr 24 23:29:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 25 @ 0.0011 = 0.0275 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:29:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 25 @ 0.001 = 0.025 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:29:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.00095 = 0.0285 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:30:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.0009 = 0.027 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:30:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.00085 = 0.0255 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:30:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00082 = 0.0082 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:30:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 8 @ 0.0008 = 0.0064 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:30:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.00075 = 0.015 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:30:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0007 = 0.07 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:30:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.00064 = 0.0192 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:30:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.00062 = 0.062 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:31:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6467 @ 0.00069618 = 4.5022 BTC [-]
Apr 24 23:31:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11456 @ 0.00069422 = 7.953 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 00:08:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.14 = 2.28 BTC [+]
Apr 25 00:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.459999 = 0.92 BTC [-]
Apr 25 00:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Apr 25 00:10:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.0711 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 00:17:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 25 00:17:51 <gribble>	74001.0014802
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Apr 25 00:18:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00988 = 0.0988 BTC [-]
Apr 25 00:18:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 38 @ 0.00987 = 0.3751 BTC [-]
Apr 25 00:19:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 88 @ 0.00987 = 0.8686 BTC [-]
Apr 25 00:19:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00986 = 0.0986 BTC [-]
Apr 25 00:19:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00985 = 0.0197 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 00:23:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1727 @ 0.00067577 = 1.1671 BTC [-]
Apr 25 00:23:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8273 @ 0.00068428 = 5.661 BTC [+]
Apr 25 00:23:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.00368 = 0.0147 BTC [+]
Apr 25 00:30:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.101 BTC [+]
Apr 25 00:30:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.1 = 13.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 00:54:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000696 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
Apr 25 01:14:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00349938 = 3.4994 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 01:43:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.168 = 2.336 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:46:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1685 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:46:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.169 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:46:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.17 = 4.68 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:46:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.171 = 5.855 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:46:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.17495 = 16.4493 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 01:46:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.175 = 11.75 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:48:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.2 = 6 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:48:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.2 = 12 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:48:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.209 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:48:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23898 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:48:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.24 = 12.4 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:48:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.267 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:48:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.29 = 6.45 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:48:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.3 = 13 BTC [+]
Apr 25 01:48:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 1.3198 = 27.7158 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 02:00:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40002 BTC [+]
Apr 25 02:03:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40002 BTC [+]
Apr 25 02:07:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4549999 = 0.91 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 02:38:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40002 BTC [+]
Apr 25 02:38:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.400019 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Apr 25 02:38:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40001 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 03:09:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.174 BTC [-]
Apr 25 03:09:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.173001 = 0.519 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 03:14:44 <BTCOxygen>	Anyone interested in Investing in ASIC Chips that will give 200% annual return?
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Apr 25 03:16:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00068365 = 10.5624 BTC [-]
Apr 25 03:16:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 944 @ 0.00068428 = 0.646 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 03:20:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4549999 = 0.91 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 03:22:40 <jurov>	BTCOxygen: do they automatically grow to adapt difficulty?
Apr 25 03:23:38 <jurov>	and, is the feedstuff expensive?
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Apr 25 03:27:56 <BTCOxygen>	jurov: With the re-investment plan Yes.
Apr 25 03:28:46 <BTCOxygen>	If anyone is interested in Investing in this Highly profitable asset please PM me.
Apr 25 03:29:13 <BTCOxygen>	For more information check out :
Apr 25 03:29:18 <BTCOxygen>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0
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Apr 25 03:30:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.173001 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 03:31:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.173 = 0.692 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 03:44:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.00364 = 0.0109 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 04:22:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00068428 = 2.4634 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 04:28:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.16939 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 04:37:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.00068248 = 0.3754 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 04:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.457 = 4.57 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 04:50:46 <KRS1>	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/24/nasa_penis_mars/
Apr 25 04:51:12 <Scrat>	lol
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Apr 25 05:03:31 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 25 05:03:33 <gribble>	There are currently 164345.7 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14958434.2328 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0105 seconds
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Apr 25 05:03:47 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 25 05:03:47 <gribble>	There are currently 43999.592 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 7888603.72073 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.0705 seconds
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Apr 25 05:12:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.123 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:13:16 <dub>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179508.msg1872550#msg1872550
Apr 25 05:13:21 <dub>	brilliant
Apr 25 05:14:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.164 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:14:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00311 = 0.0933 BTC [+]
Apr 25 05:14:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0031 = 0.0093 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:14:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.003 = 0.021 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:14:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.00298 = 0.149 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:15:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00267 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:15:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.0025 = 0.0225 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:15:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 34 @ 0.00168 = 0.0571 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:15:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 34 @ 0.00364 = 0.1238 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:17:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.01629 = 0.4887 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:21:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
Apr 25 05:21:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Apr 25 05:25:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0975 BTC [+]
Apr 25 05:27:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 43 @ 0.00364 = 0.1565 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:28:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
Apr 25 05:29:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 103 @ 0.00364 = 0.3749 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:29:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00331 = 0.0331 BTC [-]
Apr 25 05:29:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.0033 = 0.0132 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 05:49:32 <leotreasure>	i have a question about bitcoinity
Apr 25 05:49:47 <leotreasure>	how can the bid price be higher than the ask price?
Apr 25 05:50:01 <leotreasure>	"bid: 162 ask: 157.11"
Apr 25 05:51:19 <TradeFortress>	APIs choking out bad numbers? Bid/ask is also the same for gox for me
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Apr 25 06:02:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3099 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 06:08:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 25 06:08:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 157.79760, Best ask: 158.48999, Bid-ask spread: 0.69239, Last trade: 158.48999, 24 hour volume: 193543.48962967, 24 hour low: 140.96635, 24 hour high: 166.43438, 24 hour vwap: 154.54250
Apr 25 06:19:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00067919 = 6.6561 BTC [-]
Apr 25 06:19:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.000678 = 1.7289 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 06:24:09 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 0
Apr 25 06:24:11 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 0
Apr 25 06:24:12 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 0.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0043 seconds
Apr 25 06:24:13 <gribble>	There are currently 48565537 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20073000.7143 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0362 seconds
Apr 25 06:24:26 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 25 06:24:27 <gribble>	There are currently 44143.255 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 7922764.29638 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.9885 seconds
Apr 25 06:24:33 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 500
Apr 25 06:24:33 <gribble>	There are currently 98491.619 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 22841799.0416 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.2126 seconds
Apr 25 06:25:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3256 @ 0.000678 = 2.2076 BTC [-]
Apr 25 06:31:46 <tiberiusiv>	this rally is getting tired
Apr 25 06:33:04 <MJR_>	whats new everyone?
Apr 25 06:34:26 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 100
Apr 25 06:34:27 <gribble>	There are currently 61938.58 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 7823432.35362 USD in total. | Data vintage: 96.2734 seconds
Apr 25 06:34:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2989 BTC [-]
Apr 25 06:35:15 <jurov>	hi mjr_ , just spotted: http://www.igmarkets.co.uk/cfd/bitcoin-binary-options.html
Apr 25 06:35:57 <jurov>	anyone registered on ig?
Apr 25 06:36:34 <tiberiusiv>	lol thats bullshit
Apr 25 06:36:41 <tiberiusiv>	no russian was converting euros into bitcoins
Apr 25 06:36:48 <MJR_>	thats pretty cool
Apr 25 06:36:58 <mircea_popescu>	been there for a while, nobody yet reported using it.
Apr 25 06:37:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
Apr 25 06:37:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.40001 = 3.6001 BTC [-]
Apr 25 06:37:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 06:38:38 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 25 06:38:38 <gribble>	There are currently 161046.23 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14647076.0603 USD in total. | Data vintage: 76.5995 seconds
Apr 25 06:39:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.309 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 06:43:31 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 10
Apr 25 06:43:32 <gribble>	There are currently 376782.68 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 19376072.7346 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.6013 seconds
Apr 25 06:43:41 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 40
Apr 25 06:43:42 <gribble>	There are currently 186963.15 bitcoins demanded at or over 40.0 USD, worth 15776400.1157 USD in total. | Data vintage: 65.5900 seconds
Apr 25 06:43:48 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 30
Apr 25 06:43:49 <gribble>	There are currently 219352.05 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 16876229.4503 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.9214 seconds
Apr 25 06:43:53 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 5
Apr 25 06:43:54 <gribble>	There are currently 430997.15 bitcoins demanded at or over 5.0 USD, worth 19735047.4708 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.4950 seconds
Apr 25 06:44:23 <MJR_>	;;bids 0
Apr 25 06:44:23 <gribble>	There are currently 48566824 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20170679.2697 USD in total. | Data vintage: 106.8246 seconds
Apr 25 06:45:01 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: hey! didn't know you were on, how's  it going?
Apr 25 06:47:07 <KRS1>	theres usually an early morning gathering of 1-n coiners
Apr 25 06:47:17 <KRS1>	U.S. folk
Apr 25 06:47:29 <Scrat>	murcans
Apr 25 06:48:50 <MJR_>	lol cool
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Apr 25 06:49:05 <MJR_>	i got my best bid/ask ticker up and running
Apr 25 06:49:30 <MJR_>	not sure whether to think this is an ugly hack or an elegant solution (sometimes they can be the same thing?)
Apr 25 06:49:30 <KRS1>	neat..web?
Apr 25 06:49:35 <MJR_>	not really
Apr 25 06:49:46 <MJR_>	i'm using node.js to run a console app
Apr 25 06:50:06 <KRS1>	i think node.js is the best thing since peanut butter and jelly
Apr 25 06:50:16 <MJR_>	which i will then spit into my order book, i'm going to basically place an order on the internal book for every order i get from gox
Apr 25 06:50:29 <MJR_>	just to test the engine etc
Apr 25 06:50:34 <MJR_>	and get some market data going
Apr 25 06:51:16 <Scrat>	MJR_: i hope you;ve converted it to a socket pool
Apr 25 06:52:01 <Scrat>	on a second glance the code i gave you sucks ass :p
Apr 25 06:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28000003 BTC [-]
Apr 25 06:52:39 <KRS1>	I got a fish on the line
Apr 25 06:52:42 <KRS1>	* deego (deego@unaffiliated/deego) has joined #bitcoin-anal
Apr 25 06:52:42 <KRS1>	<deego> KRS1: heh, wth is this channel? :))
Apr 25 06:52:53 <KRS1>	Finally, someone to idle in my new chan
Apr 25 06:53:32 <MJR_>	it is really really basic right now
Apr 25 06:53:43 <MJR_>	Scrat: the code you gave me was super awesome and got me on the right track
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Apr 25 06:54:24 <MJR_>	KRS1: can you explain the purpose of bitcoin-anal?
Apr 25 06:56:00 <KRS1>	Yes, in a matter of words, I suppose.  Maybe if I explain it to Mircea Popescu he can come up with a more simple way.
Apr 25 06:56:17 <MJR_>	is it for obsessive compulsive people? fans of bitcoins and anal sex?
Apr 25 06:56:29 <MJR_>	people who want to pay for anal sex using bitcoins?
Apr 25 06:57:03 <MJR_>	you should put some header on the site to kinda specify, and maybe throw up a webpage for that chan
Apr 25 06:57:13 <Scrat>	prepare thy anii
Apr 25 06:57:41 <KRS1>	;;eightball what is bitcoin anal for
Apr 25 06:57:42 <gribble>	It shall be.
Apr 25 06:57:46 <KRS1>	;;eightball what is bitcoin anal for
Apr 25 06:57:46 <gribble>	Yes!
Apr 25 06:57:52 <KRS1>	see :/
Apr 25 06:57:59 <jurov>	KRH1: let's make a bot that will autopost new /dntg stuff to #bitcoin-anal
Apr 25 06:58:08 <MJR_>	what is dntg?
Apr 25 06:58:09 <jurov>	thus giving it a purpose
Apr 25 06:58:10 <KRS1>	I guess the first rule of #bitcoin-anal is that we don't talk about #bitcoin-anal
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Apr 25 06:58:17 <MJR_>	have i fallen far behind in IRC?
Apr 25 06:58:28 <MJR_>	i've been pretty busy lately lol
Apr 25 06:58:31 <jurov>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/ (nsfw)
Apr 25 06:59:07 <Scrat>	doh
Apr 25 06:59:08 <KRS1>	jurov: that might be just what #bitcoin-anal needs
Apr 25 06:59:11 <Scrat>	romanian /soc/ ?
Apr 25 06:59:50 <MJR_>	what does dtng stand for? oh...i feel dumb now
Apr 25 06:59:52 <MJR_>	dating
Apr 25 07:01:16 <MJR_>	whats new jurov?
Apr 25 07:02:37 <MJR_>	KRS1: so...using nodejs have you been able to clear the console?
Apr 25 07:03:03 <MJR_>	i am finding it kinda fun to see how javascripts origins shape nodejs
Apr 25 07:03:04 <jurov>	not there yet. it's at hello world etm.
Apr 25 07:03:09 <jurov>	*atm
Apr 25 07:03:40 <MJR_>	i really want to get around to building a site in angularjs. with node.js on the server
Apr 25 07:04:08 <jurov>	mjr_ so what new... user asked me to escalate a problem to mpex... that will be inevitably axed :/
Apr 25 07:05:15 <jurov>	a joy, indeed
Apr 25 07:06:01 <MJR_>	jurov: what problem?
Apr 25 07:06:25 <jurov>	i'll maybe publish it after i put everything together
Apr 25 07:07:12 <Scrat>	MJR_: build something for the sake of building it with angular?
Apr 25 07:08:36 <Scrat>	i still think it's a hassle unless you're dealing with tons of forms and dynamic data
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Apr 25 07:13:14 <usagi>	hai guys
Apr 25 07:15:22 <KRS1>	hai!
Apr 25 07:15:54 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/fire-in-alabama-lets-make-the-most-of-it/
Apr 25 07:15:55 <usagi>	lol, I had that tape
Apr 25 07:15:56 <mircea_popescu>	that.
Apr 25 07:16:11 <KRS1>	MJR: I don't have functional knowledge of node.js..what i have seen of it is very kick ass though.
Apr 25 07:16:41 <KRS1>	This video is wrong on so many levels, including the random little black girl dancing https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JWKmEqKaX0w
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Apr 25 07:19:13 <deadweasel>	mulatto-in-chief, that's awesome.
Apr 25 07:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	lol. what's the big deal.
Apr 25 07:19:37 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 25 07:19:38 <gribble>	There are currently 160463.16 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14545877.0448 USD in total. | Data vintage: 114.7310 seconds
Apr 25 07:19:47 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 25 07:19:50 <gribble>	There are currently 44710.655 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 8024939.68883 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0034 seconds
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Apr 25 07:20:44 <usagi>	lol nice video
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Apr 25 07:22:59 <KRS1>	heh yea they're actually pretty good- south african group
Apr 25 07:23:24 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 lol the two girls on the bed...
Apr 25 07:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's their first tiem.
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Apr 25 07:23:59 <KRS1>	i had to watch that video at least 5 times til i caught everything..like when they're sitting down to eat..did you notice the pictures on the wall..
Apr 25 07:24:19 <mircea_popescu>	:p
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Apr 25 07:26:45 <MJR_>	nice article
Apr 25 07:28:05 <pizzaman1337>	another bitcoin-central problem? I missed that
Apr 25 07:28:16 <MJR_>	besides the hack pizzaman1337?
Apr 25 07:28:22 <pizzaman1337>	https://bitcoin-central.net/
Apr 25 07:28:29 <pizzaman1337>	"We have been compromised, please do not send any funds to your wallet."
Apr 25 07:28:37 <mircea_popescu>	ovh took out slush and the frenchies.
Apr 25 07:28:41 <pizzaman1337>	submitted to reddit 15 hours ago
Apr 25 07:28:46 <pizzaman1337>	ah that still
Apr 25 07:28:47 <pizzaman1337>	ok
Apr 25 07:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	this is your friendly warning, if you're using them move
Apr 25 07:29:05 <MJR_>	yeah...i think OVH should be responsible
Apr 25 07:29:10 <MJR_>	can they sue?
Apr 25 07:29:11 <pgp2>	entertaining video
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Apr 25 07:29:24 <pizzaman1337>	how do you handle servers mircea_popescu? do you have your own physical box somewhere?
Apr 25 07:29:33 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
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Apr 25 07:29:40 <mircea_popescu>	a number of.
Apr 25 07:29:49 <pizzaman1337>	various locations? any kind of physical security?
Apr 25 07:29:55 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 25 07:30:13 <mircea_popescu>	physical security is not such a big deal, as i was saying yest
Apr 25 07:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much any dc offers lockable cages
Apr 25 07:30:24 <MJR_>	did you see roger ver's received extortion threat?
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Apr 25 07:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	i've not read summaries today yet
Apr 25 07:33:57 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i'm kinda surprised nobody has taken me on that bet.
Apr 25 07:39:31 <MJR_>	hmmm
Apr 25 07:39:36 <MJR_>	check this out
Apr 25 07:40:55 <MJR_>	http://nashx.com/About
Apr 25 07:41:00 <MJR_>	interesting idea...
Apr 25 07:41:55 <MJR_>	but i think you still have to trust the guy running the exchange
Apr 25 07:42:08 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186945.0
Apr 25 07:42:40 <mircea_popescu>	so, betsofcoin w/e scamming, blockbet scamming, i guess bitbet marks a new record of market dominance
Apr 25 07:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	99% or some shit by now
Apr 25 07:43:40 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ seems it could be usable to troll people neh ?
Apr 25 07:44:05 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 25 07:44:08 <MJR_>	i agree
Apr 25 07:44:13 <MJR_>	and bitbet is the best so far
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Apr 25 07:44:37 <MJR_>	i suppose if someone has money and feels like fucking over other people then it is fine
Apr 25 07:44:49 <MJR_>	but people with a ton of money will always have an advantage over people without
Apr 25 07:45:40 <mircea_popescu>	i shot the guy a tweet inviting him here
Apr 25 07:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	maybe he shows up, kinda curious.
Apr 25 07:48:35 <MJR_>	yeah, i appreciate it from a theoretical perspective
Apr 25 07:48:41 <MJR_>	you are changing incentives
Apr 25 07:48:52 <MJR_>	which i am all for...but i think i figured out the problem
Apr 25 07:49:05 <MJR_>	you don't account for all the incentives on both sides of the equation...hence trolling
Apr 25 07:49:17 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Apr 25 07:49:28 <MJR_>	trolling is a perfect example of not having a broad enough scope for defining "value"
Apr 25 07:49:38 <MJR_>	relates to my favorite economic thought experiment
Apr 25 07:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	but it should be he explaining his project rather than me possibly arguing with a strawman
Apr 25 07:50:40 <truffles>	mp doesnt not like opposing views
Apr 25 07:50:40 <MJR_>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimatum_game
Apr 25 07:50:49 <truffles>	he's gonna rage at that guy heh
Apr 25 07:51:00 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 25 07:52:30 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ reciprocation is the problem with that.
Apr 25 07:52:35 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 25 07:52:39 <MJR_>	they talk about that later on
Apr 25 07:52:49 <MJR_>	that specific experiment is limited to one round
Apr 25 07:52:59 <MJR_>	but they have others that ask about multi-rounds
Apr 25 07:53:13 <MJR_>	and they have done empirical studies to test what this means
Apr 25 07:54:08 <MJR_>	basically, the offerer can view part of his offer as accrued honor or fairness...which is worth something, the decider can view his role as a fighter of injustice as a value, and it is rare to find a society where an 80/20 split is accepted
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Apr 25 07:55:02 <MJR_>	i find it mind boggling that people view this as "irrational behavior" it is perfectly rational...if you broaden the definition of "value"
Apr 25 07:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	well that's always the case
Apr 25 07:55:26 <truffles>	i dont get it so uh what
Apr 25 07:55:26 <mircea_popescu>	child rape is probably perfectly rational from the rapist's perspective.
Apr 25 07:55:29 <MJR_>	for example...almost any woman could prostitute...why don't they all do it (and not just in a metaphorical sense)?
Apr 25 07:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	because they perceive they can't.
Apr 25 07:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	those who have that perception corrected for them always do.
Apr 25 07:55:57 <truffles>	uhhh
Apr 25 07:56:00 <MJR_>	it should be free money in their eyes...except it isn't...social stigma, laws, etc all change the value proposition
Apr 25 07:56:14 <MJR_>	meaning it isn't worth it at the prices they assume they would get
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Apr 25 07:56:19 <truffles>	morals and logic hmmmm
Apr 25 07:56:29 <MJR_>	no such thing as a free lunch...and morals have a dollar value
Apr 25 07:56:41 <MJR_>	just like anything else
Apr 25 07:56:51 <truffles>	what is the point here?
Apr 25 07:57:08 <mircea_popescu>	how many prostitutes do you know ?
Apr 25 07:57:27 <truffles>	about the logic of something
Apr 25 07:57:34 <MJR_>	personally...i never get their names
Apr 25 07:57:41 <MJR_>	so we aren't familiar socially
Apr 25 07:57:58 <truffles>	ugh will scroll up...later
Apr 25 07:58:25 <MJR_>	truffles: point is just incentives can be used to create fair systems if you account for what variables people are weighing
Apr 25 07:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	it's quite well established that people don't do math.
Apr 25 07:59:19 <mircea_popescu>	this coming from the other end, ie, the deterrence effect of criminal punishment.
Apr 25 07:59:19 <truffles>	what happens when mine are good and i perceive yours as evil
Apr 25 07:59:25 <MJR_>	i think the opposite may be true...we all do math subconsciously
Apr 25 07:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	people don't care WHAT the punishment is. the only thing that makes any difference is that there's SOME punishment.
Apr 25 07:59:48 <MJR_>	truffles: that misses the point, there is no bad and good, there is only perceived value
Apr 25 08:00:31 <MJR_>	in that specific example (screwing guy who tries to offer unfair deal)>(sum of money gained from unfair deal)
Apr 25 08:00:33 <truffles>	ok what if i value that thing significantly less
Apr 25 08:01:03 <MJR_>	it is a simple equation...you are deciding between two choices, whichever choice is more valuable is the choice you will make
Apr 25 08:01:28 <MJR_>	in this case, short sighted economists view it as a choice between $0 and $10, but that is not the whole picture
Apr 25 08:01:38 <truffles>	and if theyre all equally not valuable to me?
Apr 25 08:01:54 <MJR_>	it is actually ($0+punishing that guy) vs ($10+feeling cheated)
Apr 25 08:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	"I can assure you btcrow.com is not into defrauding anyone. We've processed transactions over 500 BTC at a time."
Apr 25 08:01:57 <mircea_popescu>	this is cute.
Apr 25 08:02:22 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_> it is actually ($0+punishing that guy) vs ($10+feeling cheated) << good point that.
Apr 25 08:02:33 <MJR_>	why thank you
Apr 25 08:02:49 <mircea_popescu>	however, it's hard to quantify. some men pay women to abuse them for instance.
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Apr 25 08:02:55 <mircea_popescu>	a masochist could value the cheating.
Apr 25 08:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	most people in shitty countries (like the us) are taught not to punish
Apr 25 08:03:12 <mircea_popescu>	that's also a factor.
Apr 25 08:03:26 <MJR_>	but truffles also brought up an interesting question...what if it all seems to me to be roughly equal in value? that is where randomness and chance play a role, a role that we have tried to minimize (though people still flip coins from time to time when they can't decide)
Apr 25 08:03:27 <truffles>	so we're using value of sex as the metric?
Apr 25 08:03:49 <MJR_>	if i make an offer to you, you can ignore/reject or you can accept
Apr 25 08:04:20 <MJR_>	you will accept if it seems valuable based on whatever metrics you choose to use, the point is that if you accept, its the rational choice based on your perceived utility/benefit
Apr 25 08:04:48 <MJR_>	to some people, posting pictures of themselves online with sharpies stuck up their asses was the RATIONAL choice
Apr 25 08:05:10 <truffles>	umk so?
Apr 25 08:05:42 <truffles>	i think im missing the underlying cause of this value assessment
Apr 25 08:05:47 <MJR_>	truffles: perhaps
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Apr 25 08:05:59 <MJR_>	point was, if you don't account for "lulz" you will never understand trolling
Apr 25 08:06:10 <truffles>	orly
Apr 25 08:06:23 <MJR_>	it should not exist...but it does...so wasting your time online making arguments you know to be false is worth your time
Apr 25 08:06:41 <MJR_>	why would it be worth someones time? they do it for the "lulz"
Apr 25 08:07:05 <MJR_>	so now that you have a more accurate picture of the value proposition, you can change the incentives to stop trolls
Apr 25 08:07:06 <truffles>	contrarian view can broaden perspective
Apr 25 08:07:11 <MJR_>	i agree
Apr 25 08:07:26 <MJR_>	just saying without understanding the incentives in a situation, you can't change that situation in a controlled manner
Apr 25 08:07:59 <truffles>	you want a situation where people talk about things you want to hear and make sense to you all the time?
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Apr 25 08:10:44 <mircea_popescu>	except the main property of trolling is that it's immune to attempts at changing the value proposition./
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Apr 25 08:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	this is in fact the best definituion of trolling, and it's ultimate reservoir : people's indomitable will to dominate their environment
Apr 25 08:12:54 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: i've found "ignore" does wonders
Apr 25 08:13:12 <MJR_>	how much value does someone get in a chan where no one can hear them?
Apr 25 08:13:19 <MJR_>	exactly 0
Apr 25 08:13:47 <MJR_>	the funny thing is that most people do the opposite, they engage the troll
Apr 25 08:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	not exactly zero. for instance truffles is on my ignore, you keep talking to them, i'm like mmmmkay.
Apr 25 08:13:58 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: good point
Apr 25 08:14:09 <MJR_>	although i did say if everyone ignored them
Apr 25 08:14:42 <MJR_>	truffles usually trolls mildly enough that i haven't ignored, but for example eskimobob or tiberiusiv
Apr 25 08:15:02 <MJR_>	they are not around very often...specifically eskimobob
Apr 25 08:15:17 <MJR_>	because no one will give them what they want, attention
Apr 25 08:15:38 <truffles>	chatrooms are for chatting though
Apr 25 08:15:40 <mircea_popescu>	hey, anyone want to make a birthday cake ?
Apr 25 08:15:48 <MJR_>	whose birthday?
Apr 25 08:15:56 <MJR_>	also, i liked those meme pics
Apr 25 08:16:00 <mircea_popescu>	we could have it as the community cake so 1 year old services can put it on their site
Apr 25 08:16:16 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, maybe it's a dumb idea
Apr 25 08:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	impossible to make something that'd work in all designs
Apr 25 08:19:12 <MJR_>	actually kind of cool
Apr 25 08:19:18 <MJR_>	a 3rd award?
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Apr 25 08:23:54 <truffles>	MJR so Im to conclude that this is your domain or social circle and people that dont reposnd in a way you perceive appropriate are trolling and unworthy of your attenion
Apr 25 08:24:01 <kakobrekla>	zomg
Apr 25 08:24:01 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186998.0
Apr 25 08:24:15 <MJR_>	lol...
Apr 25 08:24:49 <pizzaman1337>	looks like they still want to do LTC
Apr 25 08:24:53 <kakobrekla>	price is going up
Apr 25 08:24:54 <kakobrekla>	ltc
Apr 25 08:25:00 <kakobrekla>	since teh news
Apr 25 08:25:03 <MJR_>	for you to say that they are "unworthy of my attention" is kinda silly since i have been nothing but actively talking to you
Apr 25 08:25:25 <truffles>	it was a general comment
Apr 25 08:25:28 <MJR_>	the fact i haven't ignored you, and i don't really plan to, says that i listen to your questions
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Apr 25 08:25:38 <MJR_>	and typically respond
Apr 25 08:26:08 <MJR_>	point is there is disagreeing, where their motive is to discuss, and there is trolling where their motive is to get an emotional reaction...
Apr 25 08:26:10 <truffles>	i was trying to get at the idea of "value proposition"
Apr 25 08:27:04 <MJR_>	fair enough
Apr 25 08:27:07 <MJR_>	in what sense?
Apr 25 08:27:12 <truffles>	unless the individual say theyre trolling, its mostly your assumption of that
Apr 25 08:27:16 <MJR_>	true
Apr 25 08:27:44 <truffles>	because we dont know an individuals motive is
Apr 25 08:27:45 <MJR_>	and if i think they are it isn't worth my time...tiberius is a perfect example, he will recycle arguments, switch to ad hominem, it is very easy to spot
Apr 25 08:28:07 <truffles>	if thats the case you should apply that to every person
Apr 25 08:28:09 <MJR_>	you can judge people's motives based on what the probable outcome is...that is how we do it now
Apr 25 08:28:25 <MJR_>	he pointed the gun at me, then fired...i assume his motive is to do me harm
Apr 25 08:28:31 <truffles>	ad hominem is spewed in here all the time
Apr 25 08:28:33 <MJR_>	but no, you are right, i couldn't read his mind
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Apr 25 08:29:18 <MJR_>	anyway, the main rule for "valuation" is something is worth whatever i can sell it for
Apr 25 08:29:31 <MJR_>	that is its price...whatever someone is willing to pay
Apr 25 08:32:08 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186041.0
Apr 25 08:32:10 <mircea_popescu>	omfg all the fun!
Apr 25 08:32:18 <mircea_popescu>	and nobody here said anything!
Apr 25 08:32:46 <mircea_popescu>	maximian tradefortress etc!
Apr 25 08:33:58 <usagi>	What, you want people to tell you that you are a walking public relations disaster again? :p
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Apr 25 08:35:41 <truffles>	the great thing about the internet, you can be an asshole and none will holdit against you
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Apr 25 08:40:01 <MJR_>	lol, that was a great thread, and i love erik's response
Apr 25 08:40:07 <MJR_>	please take me off your list
Apr 25 08:41:15 <usagi>	Yes Erik's post was salient. One is left wondering, why so many people became offended at what Mircea wrote.
Apr 25 08:42:32 <truffles>	lets all ignore that racist
Apr 25 08:43:07 <usagi>	The post isn't really racist though. What I got out of it was more along the lines that old farts like me are behind the times and the word "nigger" means something different today than it did 20 years ago.
Apr 25 08:43:40 <truffles>	except he is Romanian so doubt that term is used often
Apr 25 08:43:45 <usagi>	The situation here is actually strongly reminiscient of the controversy over novels like Huckleberry Finn in American and Canadian schools.
Apr 25 08:43:57 <truffles>	fyi i dont care if he is racist
Apr 25 08:44:03 <tiberiusiv>	nigger
Apr 25 08:44:08 <usagi>	Romanians are generally honest and hardworking people <--- now that is racist.
Apr 25 08:44:21 <tiberiusiv>	romanians are gypsys thieves and fraudsters
Apr 25 08:44:51 <MJR_>	^^this
Apr 25 08:44:52 <usagi>	Are you suggesting that a gypsy is not a thief or a fraudster by specifying the condition of being both a gypsy and a fraudster? :)
Apr 25 08:45:07 <MJR_>	lol, exactly
Apr 25 08:45:20 <usagi>	Django Reinhardt was a gypsy by all accounts.
Apr 25 08:45:35 <tiberiusiv>	whose that
Apr 25 08:45:42 <usagi>	Because of people like Django I'don't see any negative connotation because of that
Apr 25 08:46:09 <usagi>	Django Reinhardt was one of the most influential guitarists in human history.
Apr 25 08:46:29 <usagi>	He's probably more influential than all black guitarists combined.
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Apr 25 08:46:49 <usagi>	I mean you know, Robert Johnson, Eric Clapton, etc.
Apr 25 08:47:44 <MJR_>	jimmy hendrix was pretty cool
Apr 25 08:48:21 <MJR_>	anyway, the point is that people's genes don't matter, what they do matters
Apr 25 08:48:42 <BTCOxygen>	Anyone here interested in Investing on a 200% annual return asset ?
Apr 25 08:48:51 <kakobrekla>	SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
Apr 25 08:48:56 <MJR_>	OMG yes! tell me more!
Apr 25 08:49:00 <usagi>	genes matter. Wait aminute, tell me about the 200%
Apr 25 08:49:10 <MJR_>	yeah, i really want to send money to someone online
Apr 25 08:49:11 <kakobrekla>	BTCOxygen do you have a skateboard?
Apr 25 08:49:17 <MJR_>	kakobrekla: YES
Apr 25 08:49:29 <BTCOxygen>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0
Apr 25 08:49:38 <BTCOxygen>	^^^^ This is what I am doing.
Apr 25 08:49:48 <BTCOxygen>	If anyone wants to Invest please PM me.
Apr 25 08:50:02 <kakobrekla>	imma go puke now.
Apr 25 08:50:22 <BTCOxygen>	Don't miss out the great Opportunity.
Apr 25 08:50:29 <usagi>	scroll down lol
Apr 25 08:50:35 <BTCOxygen>	Opportunity only comes once.
Apr 25 08:50:40 <usagi>	that is an amazing piece of artwork
Apr 25 08:50:44 <MJR_>	it sure does, you would be a fool to pass this up
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Apr 25 08:51:00 <MJR_>	don't let this opportunity pass you by
Apr 25 08:51:26 <MJR_>	act now, supplies are limited
Apr 25 08:53:07 <truffles>	well what this racist fiasco says Mircea mangles issues/debates so bad he requires someone to swoop in to clean up the mess
Apr 25 08:53:47 <mircea_popescu>	lmao this chan.
Apr 25 08:54:01 <mircea_popescu>	somebody was visiting and they were "why are you always on irc anyway"
Apr 25 08:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	i turn around, look at irc, it's... hey! read this! now you tell me.
Apr 25 08:55:13 <mircea_popescu>	BTCOxygen i detect insufficient yellow in your sale page.
Apr 25 08:56:01 <BTCOxygen>	mircea_popescu: I will add more if you want  ...lol
Apr 25 08:56:22 <mircea_popescu>	also isn't it traditional to have a square box with shadow and reflection underneath ?
Apr 25 08:56:27 <mircea_popescu>	where is your box ?
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Apr 25 08:59:34 <BTCOxygen>	Also the 2800GH/s is == 3000GH/s
Apr 25 08:59:45 <BTCOxygen>	I will be editing this in a few hours.
Apr 25 09:00:14 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller lol that's one longass reddit post dood
Apr 25 09:04:18 <kakobrekla>	BMMO guy in otc?
Apr 25 09:05:22 <kakobrekla>	!l glbse bmmo
Apr 25 09:05:35 <kakobrekla>	o
Apr 25 09:05:39 <kakobrekla>	assy bitch
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Apr 25 09:09:42 <BTCOxygen>	So anyone interested ?
Apr 25 09:09:54 <ThickAsThieves>	The more gradients, textures, and drop shadows, the more trustworthy
Apr 25 09:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla hey, wanna go into that thread and be all like "o mem's totally right, we're boycotting mpex nao" ?
Apr 25 09:10:40 <kakobrekla>	....
Apr 25 09:11:22 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is based on drama!
Apr 25 09:11:27 <mircea_popescu>	needs also trolling.
Apr 25 09:11:34 <kakobrekla>	but im a sloveny nigger
Apr 25 09:11:45 <BTCOxygen>	mircea_popescu: What does it take to launch an asset on mpex ?
Apr 25 09:12:00 <Scrat>	ThickAsThieves: i finally get it now
Apr 25 09:12:24 <Scrat>	thick ass thieves: bunch of bootycilious black chicks stealing your flatscreen TV?
Apr 25 09:12:28 <Scrat>	what do i win
Apr 25 09:12:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01629 = 0.1629 BTC [-]
Apr 25 09:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	BTCOxygen a business plan is a good start. a wot presence is necessary.
Apr 25 09:12:59 <ThickAsThieves>	you win the privelege of gicing me lifetime free access to bitfetch!
Apr 25 09:13:05 <ThickAsThieves>	giving*
Apr 25 09:13:08 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 25 09:13:08 <gribble>	There are currently 158341.61 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14196719.2615 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.7810 seconds
Apr 25 09:13:16 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 25 09:13:16 <gribble>	There are currently 46909.977 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 8370931.75556 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.7003 seconds
Apr 25 09:13:18 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla slovenly somalian
Apr 25 09:13:22 <mircea_popescu>	could be like a band name
Apr 25 09:13:25 <kakobrekla>	lmao
Apr 25 09:13:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009996 BTC [+]
Apr 25 09:13:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009996 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Apr 25 09:14:24 <ThickAsThieves>	kakobrekla sounds likea good name for a beastly street fighter character, much better than blanka
Apr 25 09:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 25 09:16:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.162 BTC [-]
Apr 25 09:16:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16101 BTC [-]
Apr 25 09:16:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.161 BTC [-]
Apr 25 09:16:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [-]
Apr 25 09:17:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.15 = 14.95 BTC [-]
Apr 25 09:22:19 <ThickAsThieves>	hey someone should tell evoorhees to get his act together
Apr 25 09:22:26 <ThickAsThieves>	just sayin
Apr 25 09:23:41 <mircea_popescu>	what he do now ?
Apr 25 09:24:07 <ThickAsThieves>	nothing
Apr 25 09:24:11 <ThickAsThieves>	that's the problem
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Apr 25 09:24:40 <ThickAsThieves>	he keeps saying he's doing so much behind the scenes
Apr 25 09:24:42 <mircea_popescu>	he says they're working on things.
Apr 25 09:24:50 <ThickAsThieves>	so reassuring
Apr 25 09:24:53 <Cylta>	How much does cost 1 put or call btcusd option on MPEX? if price is fluctuating, give me aprx price, thanks!
Apr 25 09:25:29 <damientrog>	I just keep buying at this bottom price
Apr 25 09:25:36 <damientrog>	but I hope he does get his act together
Apr 25 09:26:06 <ThickAsThieves>	i've pretty much given up
Apr 25 09:26:32 <ThickAsThieves>	i so no reason not to
Apr 25 09:26:34 <ThickAsThieves>	see
Apr 25 09:27:06 <damientrog>	well I buy at 2.x
Apr 25 09:27:11 <damientrog>	and then resell at 3.x
Apr 25 09:27:16 <damientrog>	to cover for my losses
Apr 25 09:27:24 <damientrog>	but it should go up a lot more
Apr 25 09:27:24 <ThickAsThieves>	yes i did that for a while
Apr 25 09:27:34 <ThickAsThieves>	but its like swimming upstream
Apr 25 09:27:42 <ThickAsThieves>	feels cool to arb it up
Apr 25 09:27:54 <ThickAsThieves>	but then it never actually rises in value
Apr 25 09:28:02 <ThickAsThieves>	and divs are shit
Apr 25 09:28:15 <damientrog>	maybe next dividend makes it rise some more
Apr 25 09:28:18 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess at these prices it's not too bad divs-wise
Apr 25 09:28:26 <damientrog>	last one was complete shit of course
Apr 25 09:28:57 <damientrog>	I think we'll be getting 5x as much (my last calc using dooglus stats)
Apr 25 09:29:23 <ThickAsThieves>	erik argues away promoting the site a lot, explains away adding features, and barely communicates at all
Apr 25 09:29:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i know things take time
Apr 25 09:29:55 <ThickAsThieves>	but the whole thing is going stale
Apr 25 09:29:56 <damientrog>	hmm.. I'll ask him as well on Skype what the deal is
Apr 25 09:30:37 <ThickAsThieves>	carpe fucking diem plz
Apr 25 09:30:47 <damientrog>	it's a gold mine left to waste right now
Apr 25 09:31:13 <ThickAsThieves>	he's probly just enjoying the good life
Apr 25 09:31:37 <damientrog>	well hire someone to do it for you then
Apr 25 09:32:10 <damientrog>	if you want to enjoy the good life
Apr 25 09:32:21 <damientrog>	that's what I'd do
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Apr 25 09:37:33 <BTCOxygen>	Whats the avarage annual return users are interested in ?
Apr 25 09:38:34 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder if anyone is noticing the striking similarities between the debates surrounding assignats back in 1790s France and the current debates re bond buying/tapering going on in the US.
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Apr 25 09:42:32 <error4733>	;;eightball coffee or double coffee ?
Apr 25 09:42:33 <gribble>	The outlook is poor.
Apr 25 09:43:09 <error4733>	;;ticker m s.dice
Apr 25 09:43:10 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Apr 25 09:43:15 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcoin-central.net/ << updated.
Apr 25 09:43:15 <error4733>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 25 09:43:17 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00299999 / 0.00339576 / 0.00349938 (2776 shares, 9.43 BTC), 7D: 0.0012 / 0.00275111 / 0.00371221 (72695 shares, 199.99 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00318998 / 0.00449999 (1539370 shares, 4,910.56 BTC)
Apr 25 09:43:55 <error4733>	Yep, better communication this time
Apr 25 09:44:06 <TomServo>	mircea_popescu: I hadn't, but hadn't heard of assignats either.  Does seem strikingly similar indeed.  I need to read more.
Apr 25 09:44:23 <mircea_popescu>	do.
Apr 25 09:44:45 <mircea_popescu>	quite fascinating stuff for the troubles at hand.
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Apr 25 09:46:36 <TomServo>	For sure, thanks for point it out.
Apr 25 09:46:40 <TomServo>	pointing*
Apr 25 09:47:31 <kakobrekla>	uh
Apr 25 09:47:35 <kakobrekla>	thats preety harsh
Apr 25 09:47:42 <kakobrekla>	the bitcoin central thing.
Apr 25 09:47:45 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.bitcoinnotbombs.com/ << who's this ?
Apr 25 09:48:04 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla sucxks to be them
Apr 25 09:48:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00068248 = 5.6305 BTC [+]
Apr 25 09:48:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 383 @ 0.00068428 = 0.2621 BTC [+]
Apr 25 09:48:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00068711 = 6.768 BTC [+]
Apr 25 09:48:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4699 @ 0.00069044 = 3.2444 BTC [+]
Apr 25 09:48:19 <kakobrekla>	closing down completley is bad
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Apr 25 09:49:07 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Apr 25 09:49:08 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.28000003 / 0.29034105 / 0.29860000 (95 shares, 27.58240017 BTC), 7D: 0.12500000 / 0.25745377 / 0.34000000 (978 shares, 251.78978676 BTC), 30D: 0.12500000 / 0.32869628 / 0.47500000 (6867 shares, 2257.15735224 BTC)
Apr 25 09:49:14 <kakobrekla>	and its making the thing look worse than it is
Apr 25 09:49:31 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess they just need to do a complete audit by now
Apr 25 09:49:33 <mircea_popescu>	i can see it.
Apr 25 09:51:11 <error4733>	OVH as well
Apr 25 09:51:12 <tiberiusiv>	lol and you idiots were recommending using bitcoin-central
Apr 25 09:51:19 <tiberiusiv>	the most illiquid garbage exchange out there
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Apr 25 09:51:38 <error4733>	for small sum, it's perfect
Apr 25 09:51:59 <error4733>	for UE customer speaking
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Apr 25 09:55:38 <topace>	its incomprehensible to me that anyone would use a shared/rented/vps hosting platform for anything bitcoin related
Apr 25 09:56:00 <topace>	if you dont own your own servers and have them locked in a cage that only you have access to, you're just asking for trouble.
Apr 25 09:56:34 <Diablo-D3>	topace: BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STUPID
Apr 25 09:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	topace only recently we became rich enough for most services rto afford this
Apr 25 09:56:48 <topace>	the iris scanners at my data center supposedly can even tell the difference between a dead eye and a live eye (so if someone kills me and takes my eyeball, tehy STILL cant get in :p)
Apr 25 09:56:56 <mircea_popescu>	and there's inertia in the world, people stick to what worked in the past
Apr 25 09:57:05 <Diablo-D3>	I have told people at least 9000 fucking times
Apr 25 09:57:05 <Diablo-D3>	not to do that
Apr 25 09:57:05 <Diablo-D3>	DO THEY LISTEN
Apr 25 09:57:05 <Diablo-D3>	NOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOO
Apr 25 09:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	all iris scanners can tell that difference topace
Apr 25 09:57:21 <mircea_popescu>	iris scanning works by looking for pulse deformations.
Apr 25 09:57:22 <topace>	huh didnt know that
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Apr 25 09:57:36 <topace>	i know very little about biometric identification, other than its fucking cool
Apr 25 09:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	when your heart sends a pulse the small vesells in the retina dilate.
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Apr 25 09:58:17 <usagi>	I listened, Diablo
Apr 25 09:58:26 <topace>	!ticker h him
Apr 25 09:58:27 <asciilifeform>	an iris scanner is only useful if there is a man with a rifle standing next to it. otherwise the enemy can rip it off the wall and replace it with a doctored one, for replay attack.
Apr 25 09:58:27 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.44000000 / 1.54785357 / 1.84870000 (28 shares, 43.33990001 BTC), 7D: 1.44000000 / 1.70778165 / 1.87000000 (87 shares, 148.57700374 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.66746181 / 2.08000000 (750 shares, 1250.59635382 BTC)
Apr 25 09:58:32 <topace>	!ticker h vtx
Apr 25 09:58:34 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.40001000 / 0.45057476 / 0.46000000 (230 shares, 103.63219565 BTC), 7D: 0.31000000 / 0.43977087 / 0.49750000 (1237 shares, 543.99656624 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.41107685 / 0.73925000 (6237 shares, 2563.88634246 BTC)
Apr 25 09:59:24 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform if there's a man with a rifle standing by it a hot chick wearing just a belt still can rip anything off she pleases.
Apr 25 09:59:44 <topace>	asciilifeform:  the entrance to my data center is manned 24/7 behind bulletproof glass
Apr 25 09:59:58 <topace>	or lexan, or something
Apr 25 10:00:50 <topace>	and the walls and floor are 8 feet thick reinforced concrete
Apr 25 10:00:52 <topace>	i wonder what teh roof is like
Apr 25 10:00:56 <topace>	cant imagine its concrete...
Apr 25 10:01:42 <asciilifeform>	topace: ATMs encased in concrete (as bulletproof as it gets) are routinely stolen, using bulldozers. it might help for your cage to be several floors above ground.
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Apr 25 10:02:36 <error4733>	everything is useless if it's a inside job...
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Apr 25 10:02:48 <usagi>	ATMs are stolen because they're left outside at 3am.
Apr 25 10:03:00 <error4733>	or if your wife&kids are kidnap at house
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Apr 25 10:03:40 <asciilifeform>	at any rate, it is much cheaper to have the owner of the servers "voluntarily" open the door. Let's say, with one of these: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/12/ff_collarbomb/  around his neck.
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Apr 25 10:05:13 <asciilifeform>	topace: do you - personally - live, eat, work, etc. behind 8 feet of concrete? if not, the above link is relevant.
Apr 25 10:05:32 <topace>	hehe no, i do not
Apr 25 10:05:59 <Scrat>	you mean 2.43m of concrete?
Apr 25 10:06:03 <Scrat>	jesus fucking christ
Apr 25 10:06:04 <error4733>	you should ;)
Apr 25 10:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Apr 25 10:06:27 <mircea_popescu>	this guy is like a repository of the obscure
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Apr 25 10:07:26 <asciilifeform>	mirce_popescu: the damn collar bomb was front page news worldwide some years ago. and before that, it featured in two separate SF films, before some bastard actually built some.
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Apr 25 10:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	i don't keep up so well with the popcult.
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Apr 25 10:08:52 <asciilifeform>	my point, as always, is that Bitcoin users are, like it or not, playing the Big Game. and this game has rules very different from everyday "public" life, and it helps to be aware of them.
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Apr 25 10:10:11 <mircea_popescu>	surely.
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Apr 25 10:10:42 <asciilifeform>	I mention the collar because it is picturesque, and because it is a simple and elegant way to have a guy without a family to take hostage do something "voluntarily."
Apr 25 10:10:46 <mircea_popescu>	however, bitcoin users are the balding delivery man. the 5 inch gash is exceedingly more likely than the successful scavenger hunt.
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Apr 25 10:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	s/a guy without a family/ a guy without a family who cares about you pointing guns at him/
Apr 25 10:11:55 <KRS-1>	8 foot thick walls of steel reinforced concrete is a bit much to believe
Apr 25 10:12:08 <asciilifeform>	the idea is, if you have personal cryptographic control over serious BTC, you need to be ready (and physically equipped) to fight to the death.
Apr 25 10:12:35 <asciilifeform>	or partner with someone you can trust, who is.
Apr 25 10:12:41 <KRS-1>	i visited many data centers and the sales people at each one do a great job at making you think not even houdini could get in or out
Apr 25 10:13:02 <mircea_popescu>	KRS-1 all true bunkers smell faintly of pee.
Apr 25 10:13:12 <asciilifeform>	KRS-1: you know what routinely gets in (and out)? Replacement switches, routers, cables. That come from hell knows where.
Apr 25 10:13:14 <mircea_popescu>	(it's from sweat, not the actual pee)
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Apr 25 10:13:32 <Scrat>	million tons of granite didn't help piratebay's servers from getting raided
Apr 25 10:13:44 <Scrat>	therefore
Apr 25 10:13:46 <Scrat>	granite sucks
Apr 25 10:13:50 <KRS-1>	haha
Apr 25 10:14:51 <mircea_popescu>	"Wells was a loyal employee—in 10 years, the only time he had called in late for work was when his cat died."
Apr 25 10:14:52 <mircea_popescu>	sucks.
Apr 25 10:16:26 <jcpham>	i think i'm going to change careers
Apr 25 10:16:43 <jcpham>	my new job requires police academy though
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Apr 25 10:19:56 <KRS-1>	good luck if you are looking toward any kind of law enforcement or government job requiring law enforcement/police academy training.
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Apr 25 10:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	prolly not worth the pay in the coming years.
Apr 25 10:20:56 <KRS-1>	They're taking all of the military personnel returning from overseas as preferential applicants by U.S. Law
Apr 25 10:21:00 <mircea_popescu>	ideally you want to be the fireman in winter, not dry late summer.
Apr 25 10:21:29 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: its a good policy anyhow
Apr 25 10:22:15 <KRS-1>	mircea_popescu: the pay was never worth anything ...I used to do it (won't mention what) but it was Government employment and the pay wasn't dick.  I went back to college and entered the corporate world and never looked back.  Tripled my income and wound up working less/less stress..etc.
Apr 25 10:22:25 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: some people like fire.
Apr 25 10:22:49 <KRS-1>	Diablo: without a doubt.
Apr 25 10:23:25 <mircea_popescu>	KRS-1 now imagine all that + being paid in worthless govt script for getting quite really killed.
Apr 25 10:23:28 <asciilifeform>	KRS-1: this is why Blackwater (or Craft International) or who knows where else.
Apr 25 10:23:33 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform the people who do never work for govts.
Apr 25 10:24:08 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: mercenaries work for the highest bidder. at the moment, the fellows with the tinted windows are the highest bidder.
Apr 25 10:24:26 <mircea_popescu>	this is not even remotely true.
Apr 25 10:24:33 <mircea_popescu>	consider the easier and more familiar case of whores.
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Apr 25 10:24:43 <mircea_popescu>	whores don't work for the highest bidder. they merely pretend to.
Apr 25 10:24:50 <mircea_popescu>	they work either for themselves, or for the coolest bidder.
Apr 25 10:25:12 <KRS-1>	Right, quite often not even market forces are at work with the mistresses for hire.
Apr 25 10:25:22 <ThickAsThieves>	what is a 'coolest bidder'?
Apr 25 10:25:28 <KRS-1>	heh
Apr 25 10:25:39 <KRS-1>	The dorky guy at the end of the bar who has the coke
Apr 25 10:25:54 <ThickAsThieves>	you mean the easy work?
Apr 25 10:26:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.09799 = 0.294 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 10:26:18 <KRS-1>	What can I say its not hard to figure out. I frequent establishment such establishments.
Apr 25 10:26:18 <ThickAsThieves>	or like groupies?
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Apr 25 10:26:49 <KRS-1>	sp.  I frequent such establishments
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Apr 25 10:27:08 <ThickAsThieves>	i know nothing of whores, but i'd assume they, like many, want the easiest work for the most pay
Apr 25 10:27:20 <KRS-1>	or coke
Apr 25 10:27:37 <KRS-1>	hell sometimes you can just buy em drinks
Apr 25 10:28:01 <asciilifeform>	The U.S. money printer can buy you all the coke you could dream of.
Apr 25 10:28:02 <kakobrekla>	ltc on gox could make for good bets
Apr 25 10:28:04 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves depends. it may be the coke, sure, but more often than not it's quite animalic.
Apr 25 10:28:16 <mircea_popescu>	whores are people too, they have their tickle spots, their likes, etc
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Apr 25 10:28:51 <ThickAsThieves>	so they may prefer johns that look like good lays?
Apr 25 10:28:56 <ThickAsThieves>	for less pay
Apr 25 10:28:58 <KRS-1>	yep ..i dated a dancer or two in my time..they're fun but not worth the aggrivation most of the time
Apr 25 10:29:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 20 @ 0.01629 = 0.3258 BTC [-]
Apr 25 10:29:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01304 BTC [-]
Apr 25 10:29:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.0125 = 0.0375 BTC [-]
Apr 25 10:30:26 <asciilifeform>	I imagine that working for Blackwater is less like being a normal whore and more like being the king's expensive mistress.
Apr 25 10:30:48 <asciilifeform>	At least, if you're somewhere above the bottom foot-soldier level.
Apr 25 10:31:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
Apr 25 10:31:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i imagine any job like that comes with a notable chance you;ll end up killed by your own too
Apr 25 10:32:06 <asciilifeform>	ThickAsThieves: Chris Kyle, etc
Apr 25 10:32:14 <asciilifeform>	it happens
Apr 25 10:33:04 <topace>	so kncminer announced a 6GH FPGA based miner, and a 250GH ASIC based miner ?
Apr 25 10:33:29 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Apr 25 10:33:34 <topace>	http://www.kncminer.com/news/news-10
Apr 25 10:35:05 <kakobrekla>	smells scam
Apr 25 10:35:15 <topace>	at retail, the fpga chips from alterra are $$15k
Apr 25 10:35:22 <topace>	for 6GH
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Apr 25 10:39:01 <topace>	heh $2795 for the FPGA, with "vouchers for up to $2000 off of any jupiter purchase"
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Apr 25 10:39:51 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla wanna drive there ?
Apr 25 10:40:03 <kakobrekla>	lmao
Apr 25 10:40:17 <topace>	yea someone go visit them and see if they are real
Apr 25 10:40:18 <asciilifeform>	$xxxx for ASIC; enjoying the same BTC yield as a cheap GPU today when every other chump has bought an ASIC: priceless.
Apr 25 10:40:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 25 10:40:25 <kakobrekla>	no loccation disclosed afaik
Apr 25 10:40:48 <kakobrekla>	cause its so locco
Apr 25 10:42:22 <Scrat>	;;bids 0
Apr 25 10:42:25 <gribble>	There are currently 57729608 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19687676.0833 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0139 seconds
Apr 25 10:42:47 <Scrat>	been a while since we dropped below 20M
Apr 25 10:44:55 <lippoper>	oh no
Apr 25 10:44:59 <lippoper>	we're going down?
Apr 25 10:45:33 <asciilifeform>	topace: the only sane place to get FPGAs is eBay or the equivalent. $100, instead of paying $XX,XXX for the same chip, because of "intellectual property" crapola.
Apr 25 10:46:37 <asciilifeform>	topace: you will need a reflow oven, though. (make your own.)
Apr 25 10:46:52 <topace>	hehe
Apr 25 10:46:58 <topace>	right, ill get right on that
Apr 25 10:46:59 <mircea_popescu>	lippoper http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/
Apr 25 10:47:07 <topace>	i hear bfl has fancy in-house machines
Apr 25 10:47:11 <topace>	that will let them ship next week
Apr 25 10:47:16 <topace>	:p
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Apr 25 10:47:26 <mircea_popescu>	they can't because there's a shortage of fans
Apr 25 10:47:52 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: no, shortage of Jolt Cola
Apr 25 10:48:16 <mircea_popescu>	they still make that ?~!
Apr 25 10:48:28 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: AFAIK no, hence the shortage.
Apr 25 10:50:57 <lippoper>	mircea, that article you linked me to is almost a month old
Apr 25 10:51:12 <lippoper>	great stuff in there, but it seems out of date
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Apr 25 10:51:26 <lippoper>	You should update and write about yesterday's bubble
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Apr 25 10:51:59 <kakobrekla>	lol the original bitcoin-central announce ended with "We'll be back, also skateboards."
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Apr 25 11:00:27 <BTCOxygen>	topace: Maybe you should just Invest with me and forget about ASICs :P
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Apr 25 11:01:12 <BTCOxygen>	topace: 200% annual return is not bad tho.
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Apr 25 11:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	lippoper it is not out of date inasmuch as btc price does what it says.
Apr 25 11:15:50 <kakobrekla>	love the meta debate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187378.msg1941436#msg1941436
Apr 25 11:17:24 <mircea_popescu>	so this is what they do with the milk!
Apr 25 11:18:15 <kakobrekla>	i added my reply.
Apr 25 11:18:48 <KRS-1>	BTCOxygen: I read your business plan if thats what it was- I don't see how investing with you can net more profits than if I bought some of my own units from Avalon batch 4 if there is a batch 4..considering management and Dev costs
Apr 25 11:19:34 <KRS-1>	Not putting your plan down or anything it does seem pretty solid
Apr 25 11:20:55 <BTCOxygen>	KRS-1: Management fee has been reduced to 10%
Apr 25 11:21:05 <BTCOxygen>	WIll update OP in a few hours.
Apr 25 11:21:50 <BTCOxygen>	KRS-1: The costs on our plan are similar to Batch #3 Avalon
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Apr 25 11:22:39 <BTCOxygen>	Still with the re-investment plan the ROI is still above ~100% annually.
Apr 25 11:23:31 <BTCOxygen>	KRS-1: If there was Batch 4 It would be 75 BTC per unit.
Apr 25 11:23:40 <BTCOxygen>	plus 4 BTC for shipping
Apr 25 11:24:03 <BTCOxygen>	Total of 79 BTC per unit
Apr 25 11:24:15 <BTCOxygen>	Our operation will have 45 Avalon Units.
Apr 25 11:24:26 <lippoper>	that you'll be pulling from?
Apr 25 11:24:32 <kakobrekla>	ass.
Apr 25 11:25:12 <BTCOxygen>	If you buy 45 Units from Avalon it would cost 45 * 79 == 3,555 BTC
Apr 25 11:25:25 <BTCOxygen>	So please may I know where my plan is inefficient.
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Apr 25 11:25:55 <lippoper>	the part where you say "If"
Apr 25 11:26:04 <lippoper>	;-)
Apr 25 11:26:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating BTCOxygen
Apr 25 11:26:09 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User BTCOxygen, rated since Sun Mar 10 14:32:15 2013. Cumulative rating 3, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=BTCOxygen
Apr 25 11:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	now that's a first./
Apr 25 11:26:30 <kakobrekla>	yeah a suprise!
Apr 25 11:26:36 <BTCOxygen>	mircea_popescu: I Have not done much trading on OTC.
Apr 25 11:26:57 <BTCOxygen>	But read the Why trust us part on our thread.
Apr 25 11:27:06 <BTCOxygen>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0
Apr 25 11:27:27 <mircea_popescu>	BTCOxygen in general people presenting themselves with a scammy nonsense thing tend to not be in the wot.
Apr 25 11:27:54 <mircea_popescu>	before you ask : offering to buy mining gear with opm is scammy by definition.
Apr 25 11:28:05 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much not one single attempt to date worked out.
Apr 25 11:28:20 <BTCOxygen>	Hey We have been Operating a pool since Octobor 2012.
Apr 25 11:28:33 <BTCOxygen>	And have been in the bitcoin community for a long time.
Apr 25 11:29:05 <kakobrekla>	so you put down 0.1 btc of your own money? https://blockchain.info/address/1VbWxiGEa1d89ZigFuWWeP5CjDJSK6Xdi
Apr 25 11:29:14 <kakobrekla>	lots of confidence
Apr 25 11:29:47 <BTCOxygen>	kakobrekla: Thats done for testing purpose.
Apr 25 11:30:01 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Apr 25 11:30:12 <kakobrekla>	to see if bitcoin works?
Apr 25 11:30:28 <mircea_popescu>	BTCOxygen yes i get it, since oct 2012. nevertheless.
Apr 25 11:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	this mining farm thing doesn't work. people who can afford asics can just get them
Apr 25 11:30:49 <asciilifeform>	Somehow, all the ASIC "shares" schemes remind me of American chumps buying refrigerators on installment plans, with the payments totalling to the cost of a car.
Apr 25 11:30:58 <mircea_popescu>	people who can't aren't numerous enough to make anything of the sort you're contemplatin workable.
Apr 25 11:31:03 <asciilifeform>	"The miser pays twice."
Apr 25 11:31:13 <mircea_popescu>	there was some marginal business sense in the old gpu days, because running a large gpu farm was non trivial
Apr 25 11:31:25 <mircea_popescu>	nevertheless, people still chose to pocket the investor's hardware.
Apr 25 11:31:46 <mircea_popescu>	i think the skepsidyne integrated node is pretty much the obligatory blueprint for all such pooled mining farm ventures.
Apr 25 11:32:15 <BTCOxygen>	kakobrekla: That was sent to my offline wallet.
Apr 25 11:32:29 <BTCOxygen>	Was testing that.
Apr 25 11:32:55 <kakobrekla>	so you are putting down 0 of your own funds for this
Apr 25 11:33:06 <mircea_popescu>	well he got the idea...
Apr 25 11:33:25 <BTCOxygen>	kakobrekla: I will put my funds into this once I see some interest.
Apr 25 11:33:31 <kakobrekla>	lol ok.
Apr 25 11:33:42 <BTCOxygen>	I will be the second investor.... lol
Apr 25 11:34:13 <kakobrekla>	glwt
Apr 25 11:35:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 801 @ 0.00069044 = 0.553 BTC [+]
Apr 25 11:35:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.0006914 = 1.7631 BTC [+]
Apr 25 11:35:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6699 @ 0.00069443 = 4.652 BTC [+]
Apr 25 11:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.7999 = 8.9995 BTC [-]
Apr 25 11:36:27 <BTCOxygen>	kakobrekla: Still the ROI is very good on this.
Apr 25 11:37:01 <kakobrekla>	pirate had better roi
Apr 25 11:37:12 <BTCOxygen>	kakobrekla: but pirate == Scammer.
Apr 25 11:37:22 <kakobrekla>	hey paid yesterday
Apr 25 11:37:25 <kakobrekla>	he
Apr 25 11:37:29 <BTCOxygen>	lol.
Apr 25 11:39:01 <kakobrekla>	yea he came on a skateboard
Apr 25 11:39:09 <kakobrekla>	dropped the bag.
Apr 25 11:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	no, pirate was just a guy trying to leverage "lot of trust" into "give me money", with no businessm odel.
Apr 25 11:39:18 <mircea_popescu>	just like you.
Apr 25 11:41:51 <mod6>	holy shit i always forget that you can use `openssl dgst`
Apr 25 11:42:58 <mod6>	these damn vsphere instances dont have any one-way hash bins on the local fs :/ -- openssl to the rescue ftw
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Apr 25 11:44:33 <asciilifeform>	oldie but goodie: http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2013/01/31/stone-soup-for-the-capitalists-soul/
Apr 25 11:44:49 <asciilifeform>	"You are fair game for hustlers who understand your wealth better than you do."
Apr 25 11:46:49 <mircea_popescu>	i prefer to express that idea in the terms of the converse perspective.
Apr 25 11:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	your wealth is, much like your mistress, always ready to ditch you if you suck.
Apr 25 11:47:18 <asciilifeform>	"fool and his money soon parted", etc
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Apr 25 11:59:10 <KRS-1>	mod6: we have much in common
Apr 25 12:01:53 <kakobrekla>	http://www.asicrigs.com/
Apr 25 12:01:55 <kakobrekla>	lol?
Apr 25 12:02:30 <kakobrekla>	no i aint driving.
Apr 25 12:02:47 <deadweasel>	i ain't swimmin
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Apr 25 12:07:43 <KRS-1>	mp: you always have such great ways of putting things lol nice
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Apr 25 12:16:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 650 @ 0.00068032 = 0.4422 BTC [-]
Apr 25 12:16:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00067869 = 13.981 BTC [-]
Apr 25 12:16:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00067663 = 4.4319 BTC [-]
Apr 25 12:16:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00067399 = 6.5377 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 12:30:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5292 @ 0.00069443 = 3.6749 BTC [+]
Apr 25 12:31:09 <deadweasel>	&avg
Apr 25 12:31:09 <gribble>	Error: "avg" is not a valid command.
Apr 25 12:31:17 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 25 12:31:18 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 151.30
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Apr 25 12:32:28 <topace>	BTCOxygen: i already do have 20BTC "invested" with you :p  gonna make another paymetn soon ?
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Apr 25 12:32:48 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Apr 25 12:33:18 <BTCOxygen>	topace: Yea, Very soon.
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Apr 25 12:34:08 <BTCOxygen>	topace: Do you want to invest those into Our Project ?
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Apr 25 12:34:43 <BTCOxygen>	Then you would have 40 BTC :P
Apr 25 12:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	topace ok, wut ?
Apr 25 12:35:50 <BTCOxygen>	secret. :P
Apr 25 12:36:42 <mircea_popescu>	did you default on some obligation and end up with a payment schedule sort of arrangement ?
Apr 25 12:37:56 <BTCOxygen>	mircea_popescu: No, He is still getting payments. Buts its secret.
Apr 25 12:38:06 <BTCOxygen>	but*
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Apr 25 12:42:07 <BTCOxygen>	topace: btw... I have sent you a PM.
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Apr 25 12:45:51 <seongyupyoo>	hello?
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Apr 25 12:47:11 <kakobrekla>	yes, this is dog.
Apr 25 12:47:24 <seongyupyoo>	dog?
Apr 25 12:47:43 <kakobrekla>	http://pigroll.com/img/hello_yes_this_is_dog.jpg
Apr 25 12:48:16 <seongyupyoo>	lol
Apr 25 12:48:23 <topace>	mircea_popescu: not really secret, i started mining with btcoxygen when he first started to help "test" his site... I asked for payment on the account from the hashes i contributed, but he didnt have the btc, so he's paying me slowly as he can.
Apr 25 12:48:54 <kakobrekla>	which site?
Apr 25 12:49:07 <topace>	btcoxygen.com
Apr 25 12:49:19 <seongyupyoo>	is mircea here? I got a tweet from him asking to join this chatroom about nashx
Apr 25 12:49:28 <kakobrekla>	he is around
Apr 25 12:49:29 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo heya
Apr 25 12:49:40 <seongyupyoo>	hey! sorry about 5hrs late
Apr 25 12:49:50 <mircea_popescu>	topace you mined on his pool yet he didn't have the btc ?!  odd. anyway, thanks.
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Apr 25 12:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo so we were discussing your idea earlier, the nashx
Apr 25 12:50:12 <kakobrekla>	which idea is that
Apr 25 12:50:18 <seongyupyoo>	yeah
Apr 25 12:50:19 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla nashx.com/about i think
Apr 25 12:50:27 <mircea_popescu>	one major question is how do you deal with trolls ?
Apr 25 12:50:27 <seongyupyoo>	yes
Apr 25 12:50:29 <topace>	mircea_popescu: yea, guess he didnt find a block for a while, but was still doign PPS
Apr 25 12:50:37 <topace>	and didnt have a "float" to cover bad luck
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Apr 25 12:50:47 <mircea_popescu>	say I just make a deal in order to destroy opm. just for the kicks.
Apr 25 12:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	topace ah yeah. i see.
Apr 25 12:51:10 <mircea_popescu>	isn't pps kinda a bad model for mining ? as in, high risk of pool bankruptcy ?
Apr 25 12:51:19 <BTCOxygen>	topace: Yes, Also the mining server was not funtioning correctly at that time.
Apr 25 12:51:23 <kakobrekla>	only for small ones
Apr 25 12:51:35 <seongyupyoo>	you understand both parties of the trade risk same amount going into a deal?
Apr 25 12:51:35 <BTCOxygen>	It was a bug that never sent in blocks to bitcoind which is fixed now.
Apr 25 12:51:40 <topace>	yea, a few days of bad luck can bankrupt a small pool that doesnt have a good float
Apr 25 12:51:41 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo yes.
Apr 25 12:51:45 <asciilifeform>	NashX seems like a pretty good idea. It reminds me of my "Shitcoin" proposal (http://www.loper-os.org/?p=988). The real problem is that the "destruction" isn't real destruction - somebody ends up with the BTC. Moral hazard.
Apr 25 12:51:48 <BTCOxygen>	But I have been paying you from my pocket.
Apr 25 12:52:01 <seongyupyoo>	i don't think there is anything that can be done about those types of people who don't mind just throwing away money for kicks
Apr 25 12:52:09 <topace>	too bad you didnt pay it all back at $8/btc :p
Apr 25 12:52:13 <mircea_popescu>	ok, another question seongyupyoo
Apr 25 12:52:13 <seongyupyoo>	i was thinking there won't be any
Apr 25 12:52:17 <mircea_popescu>	suppose i want to sell 100 btc.
Apr 25 12:52:21 <mircea_popescu>	someone wants to buy just 1.5
Apr 25 12:52:22 <seongyupyoo>	ok
Apr 25 12:52:27 <mircea_popescu>	can we deal or does he have to do 100 specifically ?
Apr 25 12:52:58 <seongyupyoo>	in that case, he or you can make an offer for 1.5 for certain amount, and you should require both risking 3
Apr 25 12:53:35 <mircea_popescu>	so i would need to make a new offer basically ?
Apr 25 12:53:53 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ ^
Apr 25 12:54:01 <seongyupyoo>	yes
Apr 25 12:54:12 <seongyupyoo>	why what do you think might be better?
Apr 25 12:54:24 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo atm just trying to understand the system in my head.
Apr 25 12:54:40 <seongyupyoo>	you would not be making a 100 btc sale offer i don't think ever
Apr 25 12:54:44 <mircea_popescu>	what about the byzantine problem ? ie, we both satisfy trade, i wait for him to release and then
Apr 25 12:54:47 <mircea_popescu>	i destroy his coins anyway.
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Apr 25 12:55:13 <seongyupyoo>	when one decides to destroy, all risked funds get destroyed including your own
Apr 25 12:55:26 <mircea_popescu>	how do you implement this ?
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Apr 25 12:56:02 <seongyupyoo>	well all funds are at risk as long as both have released it, and when anyone destroys, it destroys all funds
Apr 25 12:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	yes but i mean... this is all handled at the website level ?
Apr 25 12:56:43 <mircea_popescu>	ie, your own software does this ?
Apr 25 12:56:45 <seongyupyoo>	yes
Apr 25 12:56:52 <asciilifeform>	seongyupyoo: using the word "destroy" when the BTC ends up in your pocket is disingenuous
Apr 25 12:57:05 <mircea_popescu>	how is the destruction actually implemented ?
Apr 25 12:57:10 <seongyupyoo>	yes, i won't be keeping in in the near future
Apr 25 12:57:12 <mircea_popescu>	sent to 10000000000000we ?
Apr 25 12:57:18 <seongyupyoo>	it will be distributed to active traders
Apr 25 12:57:23 <mircea_popescu>	o
Apr 25 12:57:29 <mircea_popescu>	well wait.
Apr 25 12:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	if im the most active trader i have a perverse incentive to scam ?
Apr 25 12:57:45 <seongyupyoo>	i just don't want to go into coding all of that without knowing that this app will get any traction
Apr 25 12:57:56 <seongyupyoo>	so i just wanted to get something working out there for people to see
Apr 25 12:58:01 <seongyupyoo>	gather feedback and go from there
Apr 25 12:58:01 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo it's got my interest, which as anyone will tell you is darned rare.
Apr 25 12:58:12 <seongyupyoo>	that's pretty cool :)
Apr 25 12:58:50 <mircea_popescu>	so suppose i do 80% of trade on yoru site. does this mean i get 80% of all "Destroyed" funds ?
Apr 25 12:59:03 <seongyupyoo>	well sounds like you're exactly the type of person i would want trading on nashx, so let me know what you think, and i'll try to make it work for you, and that should work for everyone
Apr 25 12:59:25 <mircea_popescu>	lol that's an idea.
Apr 25 13:00:00 <seongyupyoo>	that is an idea... i was originally thinking i would just see past few days logins and distribute evenly, as that would be the easiest to implement
Apr 25 13:00:08 <seongyupyoo>	but what you're suggesting is possible
Apr 25 13:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	i was asking because i think it's a horrible idea.
Apr 25 13:00:18 <seongyupyoo>	not sure if it's better idea though yet
Apr 25 13:00:28 <seongyupyoo>	why?
Apr 25 13:00:32 <asciilifeform>	why not use actual destruction (send to a blackhole address) ?
Apr 25 13:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	because it gives people perverse incentives.
Apr 25 13:00:52 <seongyupyoo>	how so?
Apr 25 13:00:57 <seongyupyoo>	i thought about giving it to charity also
Apr 25 13:01:00 <mircea_popescu>	in your model (active logins) : suppose you have 100 users. i make 9900 spam accounts and log them in daily.
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Apr 25 13:01:05 <seongyupyoo>	but then it gives them bad incentie
Apr 25 13:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	if i scam someone i get ~99% of the funds ?
Apr 25 13:01:17 <seongyupyoo>	yup, you're right
Apr 25 13:01:21 <seongyupyoo>	didn't think about that
Apr 25 13:01:25 <seongyupyoo>	guess i won't be doing that
Apr 25 13:01:29 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 25 13:01:33 <seongyupyoo>	thanks!
Apr 25 13:01:38 <mircea_popescu>	the volume one is very bad but slightly less bad than the active logins
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Apr 25 13:01:54 <seongyupyoo>	volume one doesn't sound bad
Apr 25 13:01:55 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform's solution is arguably better than both
Apr 25 13:02:07 <mircea_popescu>	even if it is still very bad i think (because bitcoin destruction is bad imo)
Apr 25 13:02:16 <seongyupyoo>	yeah but really destroying money?
Apr 25 13:02:22 <mircea_popescu>	ikr.
Apr 25 13:02:41 <mircea_popescu>	still,think : in the volume approach, i can wash trade myself into the 99% position.
Apr 25 13:02:52 <seongyupyoo>	i could do like a pick your own charity also
Apr 25 13:02:53 <KRS-1>	heh
Apr 25 13:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	o i got an idea :
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Apr 25 13:03:25 <seongyupyoo>	what?
Apr 25 13:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	send it to s.dice.
Apr 25 13:03:34 <mircea_popescu>	if you win then you have enough money to repay both
Apr 25 13:03:38 <kakobrekla>	ipo and release that as dividends.
Apr 25 13:03:39 <mircea_popescu>	if you lose, fuck them, do better next time
Apr 25 13:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	or that, yeah, maybe. bitbet is doing something similar for bad bets.
Apr 25 13:04:05 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: this just shifts the moral hazard to the SDICE people.
Apr 25 13:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform how ?
Apr 25 13:04:36 <seongyupyoo>	that's giving sdice bad incentive to do odd things on nashx
Apr 25 13:04:38 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: now if I run SDICE, I have the incentive to siphon BTC by triggering "destruciton."
Apr 25 13:04:45 <asciilifeform>	*destruction
Apr 25 13:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform why, for the 1.9% margin ?!
Apr 25 13:05:00 <asciilifeform>	yes. free money is free money.
Apr 25 13:05:06 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you're right.
Apr 25 13:05:12 <mircea_popescu>	well fuck lol
Apr 25 13:05:21 <mircea_popescu>	i never thought we'd have the problem of what to do with moneyz
Apr 25 13:05:27 <seongyupyoo>	well i think my margin would be higher than that
Apr 25 13:05:36 <seongyupyoo>	if the bet wins, it comes back to me right?
Apr 25 13:05:42 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo s.dice takes 1.9% of bets is what i mean.
Apr 25 13:05:47 <seongyupyoo>	so i would have incentive to try to increase destruction
Apr 25 13:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	yes, say two people each put 1 btc in. they destrouy
Apr 25 13:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	you send 2 btc to sdice, get 4 or w/e
Apr 25 13:06:11 <asciilifeform>	Shitcoin wins, because everything is 100% voluntary. You don't even see the burned coin as burned if you don't use it.
Apr 25 13:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	and you use that 4 to split among them
Apr 25 13:06:25 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 25 13:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	(because now they both have the original results they wanted)
Apr 25 13:06:42 <seongyupyoo>	ahhh....
Apr 25 13:07:01 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like "Saved by god"
Apr 25 13:07:07 <seongyupyoo>	interesting... so that would drive scammers to scam more for a chance to undo their scam for free
Apr 25 13:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	hm... fuck.
Apr 25 13:07:29 <mircea_popescu>	no wait.
Apr 25 13:07:40 <mircea_popescu>	that's not a problem. scammers are already 100% driven to scam 100% what they can
Apr 25 13:07:56 <mircea_popescu>	not like there's a scammer anywhere going "o, you know what, let's just do 50% of scamming"
Apr 25 13:08:10 <seongyupyoo>	maybe it could temp regular folks to take the money and run a little more?
Apr 25 13:08:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1647 = 2.3294 BTC [+]
Apr 25 13:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	i guess that's possible tho.
Apr 25 13:08:35 <seongyupyoo>	it's definitely interesting idea i'll keep in mind, so far one of the best and most unique
Apr 25 13:08:36 <asciilifeform>	you might as well suggest that banks should play in casinos to recoup bad debts. it is nonsense to use SDICE as part of any kind of rational system (other than a chump harvester, of course.)
Apr 25 13:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform but this is the irrational part of reason : disposing of "bad".
Apr 25 13:09:11 <mircea_popescu>	like, putting peiople in jail. this is jailed money as it were.
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Apr 25 13:09:21 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: it isn't disposal if you give it to a third party.
Apr 25 13:09:30 <seongyupyoo>	these are very interesting questions... banks playing in casinos lol
Apr 25 13:09:33 <mircea_popescu>	my original inspiration was purely greek.
Apr 25 13:09:34 <asciilifeform>	see this: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/us/13judge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Apr 25 13:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	you'd have a "gods call it" tyope of thing
Apr 25 13:09:53 <mircea_popescu>	but i think it's fully argued, i don't see anything more for it than what;s been said.
Apr 25 13:10:03 <asciilifeform>	fines have to go to /dev/null to be truly fair
Apr 25 13:10:20 <mircea_popescu>	you're just a humourless protestant that's why you think so :D
Apr 25 13:10:33 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo why you say people woudln't use this for 100 btc ?
Apr 25 13:10:45 <seongyupyoo>	is there no party who can take this money and not be incentivized to do bad?
Apr 25 13:10:55 <asciilifeform>	funny that, I'm an ethnic atheist. but I do see the spice and humour in "trial by combat."
Apr 25 13:11:01 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo btc is pseudonymous, remember ?
Apr 25 13:11:05 <MJR_>	i was thinking of scamming but only wanted to do 50% of my possible scamming
Apr 25 13:11:19 <seongyupyoo>	well, if you want to make 1 transaction of size 100, then you need to be risking about 200 btc
Apr 25 13:11:25 <seongyupyoo>	as opposed to
Apr 25 13:11:34 <KRS-1>	someone just dropped 192 BTC on litecoins
Apr 25 13:11:36 <seongyupyoo>	if you're making 100 transactions of 1, then you only need to be risking 2btc
Apr 25 13:11:43 <asciilifeform>	seongyupyoo: /dev/null is a perfectly disinterested third party who will never do you ill.
Apr 25 13:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	ya, and i'll be managing 100 txs x.x
Apr 25 13:12:33 <MJR_>	i like systems based on mutually assured destruction
Apr 25 13:12:42 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the wrap-up for me seongyupyoo : it's certainly an interesting concept. it brings however very deep philosophical questions to the fore. impossible to know if it'll acrtually be a productive business at this point
Apr 25 13:12:43 <seongyupyoo>	yeah that's another thing i have to think about also
Apr 25 13:12:44 <MJR_>	his inspiration was mexican standoffs in movies LOL
Apr 25 13:12:56 <mircea_popescu>	so something worth doing with your time if you're in a research mood. if you're in bread earner mood dunno.
Apr 25 13:13:01 <MJR_>	yes, it is interesting from a theoretical standpoint
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Apr 25 13:13:50 <asciilifeform>	other thing is that a scheme like this has to rely on an open/verifiable crypto-contract protocol, rather than some guy's phone app
Apr 25 13:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	i think that's not so hard to do tho.
Apr 25 13:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	m/n keys etc.
Apr 25 13:14:26 <seongyupyoo>	well that's been brought up a lot on reddit, but issue is
Apr 25 13:14:35 <MJR_>	yeah, is bitcoinity working correctly for everyone?
Apr 25 13:14:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 25 13:14:44 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 154.03650, Best ask: 155.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.96350, Last trade: 154.03649, 24 hour volume: 122998.14095664, 24 hour low: 140.96635, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 152.51401
Apr 25 13:14:46 <asciilifeform>	seongyupyoo: what's the advantage of your scheme vs. Shitcoin, in your view?
Apr 25 13:14:57 <mircea_popescu>	i see it.
Apr 25 13:14:58 <seongyupyoo>	if you start getting in the middle of transactions between traders, it starts becoming really difficult when you try to get in the middle of the USD transactions
Apr 25 13:15:10 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform i confess not knowing wtf shitcoin is or how it works.
Apr 25 13:15:20 <seongyupyoo>	i don't know shitcoin
Apr 25 13:15:29 <asciilifeform>	Shitcoin: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=988
Apr 25 13:15:30 <MJR_>	his exchange seems to be based on a ltc to btc model...which could work if i didn't find ltc useless
Apr 25 13:15:38 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo that is a big problem. i imagined you'd only allow people risk btc, and so your service couldn't be used for 1st time btc buyers
Apr 25 13:16:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00069521 = 12.2705 BTC [+]
Apr 25 13:16:06 <asciilifeform>	Shitcoin was my own modest proposal for MAD/Nash equilibrium reputation management/bonds
Apr 25 13:16:13 <seongyupyoo>	well i'm not sure what you're saying
Apr 25 13:16:22 <seongyupyoo>	NashX doesn't answer any transactions
Apr 25 13:16:26 <seongyupyoo>	just the risks
Apr 25 13:16:27 <mircea_popescu>	"to collectively specify the least-significant digits of the total amount" ahahaha ok mpex lives!
Apr 25 13:16:28 <mod6>	(10:11) < KRS-1> someone just dropped 192 BTC on litecoins << o.O
Apr 25 13:16:31 <mod6>	haha wow
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Apr 25 13:16:49 <asciilifeform>	I wrote that before I was told of mpex (and before I was really 100% clear on how the BTC protocol works.)
Apr 25 13:16:50 <seongyupyoo>	so once a deal is made between two parties, it's completely up to them to do whatever they need to do to make their deal
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Apr 25 13:18:01 <mircea_popescu>	One potential problem with the scheme is that innocent receivers of bonded bitcoins would suffer if the shitcoins attached to said bitcoins are invoked at a later time. The obvious countermeasure is for would-be receivers of a particular bitcoin to check (using automated means, of course) whether an unexpired Shitcoin bond is attached to these coins at the particular time they are about to receive them.
Apr 25 13:18:08 <mircea_popescu>	this is bad tho. you can't refuse a tx.
Apr 25 13:18:19 <asciilifeform>	sure you can. bitbet does all the time (send it back.)
Apr 25 13:18:42 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin isn't universally compatible with this sendfback thing tho
Apr 25 13:18:47 <mircea_popescu>	but maybe
Apr 25 13:19:07 <seongyupyoo>	i have no idea what shitcoin getting attached to a bitcoin means
Apr 25 13:19:09 <asciilifeform>	also, since you can have infinitely-many addresses, being sent shat-on coins doesn't hurt you (you will need to come up with clean ones to post a bond, but for other purposes dirty ones will do fine)
Apr 25 13:19:10 <mircea_popescu>	i know it'd piss me off if i had to check all incoming mpex funds for this tho
Apr 25 13:19:21 <mod6>	^^^
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Apr 25 13:19:41 <asciilifeform>	clean coins can be thought of as "eating sardines"
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Apr 25 13:19:45 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo http://www.loper-os.org/?p=988 we were discussing that
Apr 25 13:20:24 <asciilifeform>	the best part is that shitcoin can't do anything whatsoever to you if you don't use it.
Apr 25 13:20:42 <asciilifeform>	you can simply carry on pretending it doesn't exist (of course, at present it doesn't exist at all, and isn't likely to)
Apr 25 13:21:36 <ThickAsThieves>	with nashx, the main problem is just deciding how to handle "destroyed" btc, is that right?
Apr 25 13:21:37 <MJR_>	taint is an interesting idea
Apr 25 13:21:57 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: he said for now he keeps them, since he doesn't see that happening
Apr 25 13:22:07 <ThickAsThieves>	surely itll happen
Apr 25 13:22:10 <MJR_>	but he would implement a distribution system if it turned out to be a problem
Apr 25 13:22:20 <MJR_>	equally pay out all participants i guess
Apr 25 13:22:43 <ThickAsThieves>	could there be tx fees that were somehow porportionate to the amount of destroyed btc?
Apr 25 13:22:48 <seongyupyoo>	shitcoin sounds like an overall bad idea... not sure what purpose it serves to have metadata on how dirty a coin is, an dwhat makes it dirty and who decides
Apr 25 13:22:59 <ThickAsThieves>	to create a balance without incentive to game it
Apr 25 13:23:04 <MJR_>	the point of metadata is that you can ignore it...
Apr 25 13:23:20 <MJR_>	if you don't want to participate in the system, it doesn't matter to you
Apr 25 13:23:30 <MJR_>	so since its voluntary, all the best, have fun
Apr 25 13:23:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.125467 BTC [-]
Apr 25 13:23:53 <seongyupyoo>	i see, but still out of curious what purpose does it serve?
Apr 25 13:24:12 <ThickAsThieves>	serves to distract us from nashx
Apr 25 13:24:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;)
Apr 25 13:24:22 <MJR_>	trying to make coins which are used illicitly be tracked
Apr 25 13:24:24 <seongyupyoo>	yes two problem i see with nashx now is destroyed coins
Apr 25 13:24:33 <MJR_>	for example, pirate's coins would probably not be spendable
Apr 25 13:24:37 <MJR_>	under that system
Apr 25 13:24:38 <seongyupyoo>	and how to handle big transactions or allow many quick small transactions
Apr 25 13:25:00 <MJR_>	seongyupyoo: he doesn't actually destroy them
Apr 25 13:25:08 <ThickAsThieves>	can large tx initiate large, but resolve in chunks?
Apr 25 13:25:09 <MJR_>	he just doesn't give them to the people actually wanting them
Apr 25 13:25:13 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: hahaha. I'm sick of the retards.
Apr 25 13:25:58 <asciilifeform>	you have to destroy coins for real (that is, threaten to) to punish without creating perverse incentive for the party triggering the punishment.
Apr 25 13:26:10 <MJR_>	i personally like bitcoin just the way it is, i haven't seen another system which brings anything valuable to the table in my opinino
Apr 25 13:26:17 <mod6>	i hate the idea of coin 'taint'
Apr 25 13:26:25 <ThickAsThieves>	what if you donate the destroyed coins as TX fees into blockchain
Apr 25 13:26:27 <MJR_>	asciilifeform: "destroy" "me not get" same difference
Apr 25 13:26:48 <MJR_>	his plan was to give it to market participants
Apr 25 13:26:50 <seongyupyoo>	yes, that would still mean they each have to make many transactions
Apr 25 13:26:52 <MJR_>	dividend of sorts
Apr 25 13:26:59 <mircea_popescu>	<ThickAsThieves> what if you donate the destroyed coins as TX fees into blockchain << this may work
Apr 25 13:27:04 <seongyupyoo>	because transactions are done by the traders themselves, not by nashx
Apr 25 13:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	it will be difficulty to argue that miners are extra incentivised thus
Apr 25 13:27:12 <MJR_>	ok...and whichever coins you want to lose, you can just lose?
Apr 25 13:27:28 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 25 13:27:38 <seongyupyoo>	that would work
Apr 25 13:27:52 <seongyupyoo>	kind of still similar to putting it in blackhole
Apr 25 13:28:05 <ThickAsThieves>	except it gets redist at least
Apr 25 13:28:09 <seongyupyoo>	yup
Apr 25 13:28:12 <seongyupyoo>	so it is better
Apr 25 13:28:14 <MJR_>	it gets redist right now...
Apr 25 13:28:14 <kakobrekla>	basically you are giving them to pool ops
Apr 25 13:28:20 <kakobrekla>	most ops take those fees in the pocket
Apr 25 13:28:24 <seongyupyoo>	i think that may be the answer
Apr 25 13:28:27 <MJR_>	^^ true
Apr 25 13:28:48 <seongyupyoo>	hmm..
Apr 25 13:28:52 <ThickAsThieves>	kako that is a pool problem
Apr 25 13:28:56 <ThickAsThieves>	not a nashx problem
Apr 25 13:28:57 <MJR_>	i think the major problem with all these decentralized exchange ideas is that they have no concept of fiat money, and do nothing to solve that problem
Apr 25 13:29:12 <seongyupyoo>	still pool ops are incentivized to destroy
Apr 25 13:29:19 <ThickAsThieves>	yes, but
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Apr 25 13:29:25 <kakobrekla>	ThickAsThieves its nashxes since it cant be used as solution
Apr 25 13:29:31 <MJR_>	that is why its best to distribute to people who are using nashX
Apr 25 13:29:34 <ThickAsThieves>	if there is great incentive for tx fees
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Apr 25 13:29:39 <ThickAsThieves>	then a pool that shares them will win
Apr 25 13:29:42 <seongyupyoo>	what do you mean no concept of fiat money?
Apr 25 13:29:57 <MJR_>	how do i do a p2p transfer of $155?
Apr 25 13:30:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.4551 = 5.0061 BTC [-]
Apr 25 13:30:16 <MJR_>	i want to trade! i will roll up the bills and push them through ethernet?
Apr 25 13:30:22 <ThickAsThieves>	i didnt even know most pools dont share tx fees, is that true?!
Apr 25 13:30:33 <seongyupyoo>	how to distribute among nashx traders is another issue,,, like it was brought up before people can make fake accounts and many face transactions
Apr 25 13:30:44 <kakobrekla>	no im just making shit up as i go
Apr 25 13:30:52 <seongyupyoo>	that sounds about right that pool ops wouldn't share
Apr 25 13:30:52 <MJR_>	lol kakobrekla
Apr 25 13:31:05 <ThickAsThieves>	surely there are pools that do
Apr 25 13:31:08 <MJR_>	you can look up a spreadsheet that tells you each pool's rules...also, who cares
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Apr 25 13:31:25 <ThickAsThieves>	also, the coins dist by donated tx fees could easily be spread out thin
Apr 25 13:31:40 <ThickAsThieves>	and over time
Apr 25 13:31:41 <kakobrekla>	that solves the problem! not.
Apr 25 13:32:01 <ThickAsThieves>	even if pool ops gain, they have no way to game it
Apr 25 13:32:15 <ThickAsThieves>	are there not pools that share collected tx fees?
Apr 25 13:32:31 <MJR_>	the entire idea is only interesting as a theoretical philosophical exercise
Apr 25 13:32:46 <seongyupyoo>	so what is this chat room
Apr 25 13:32:54 <seongyupyoo>	how many people here actively?
Apr 25 13:32:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno, i'm all for a distributed exchange
Apr 25 13:33:07 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe 15-25 are active
Apr 25 13:33:09 <kakobrekla>	philosophical masturbation seongyupyoo sometimes even physical
Apr 25 13:33:14 <seongyupyoo>	yeah i'd like to see a distributed exchange also
Apr 25 13:33:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/regarding-money/ < if anyone feels like a read
Apr 25 13:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.455 BTC [-]
Apr 25 13:34:47 <seongyupyoo>	anyways, i enjoyed chatting with you guys
Apr 25 13:35:03 <seongyupyoo>	i will come back if i ever have any questions
Apr 25 13:35:11 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo don't listen to kakobrekla and trolls
Apr 25 13:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	this is the place for bitcoin biz.
Apr 25 13:35:20 <truffles>	lol
Apr 25 13:35:31 <truffles>	and talking about hookers
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Apr 25 13:35:49 <seongyupyoo>	lol
Apr 25 13:35:56 <seongyupyoo>	does red mean private message?
Apr 25 13:36:17 <mircea_popescu>	no, you were highlighted
Apr 25 13:36:19 <seongyupyoo>	anyways take care
Apr 25 13:36:21 <mircea_popescu>	if someone says your name.
Apr 25 13:36:24 <seongyupyoo>	oh i see
Apr 25 13:36:28 <MJR_>	great article...think the same thing as far as its all about the value
Apr 25 13:36:30 <MJR_>	not the money
Apr 25 13:36:36 <MJR_>	total money = total value
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Apr 25 13:36:48 <mircea_popescu>	but why should these be distinct ?
Apr 25 13:36:48 <MJR_>	anyways, lunch time, cya later
Apr 25 13:36:55 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: they are one and the same
Apr 25 13:36:59 <mircea_popescu>	im going to cook! so... later.
Apr 25 13:37:14 <MJR_>	currency is shifting, "money" is 100% of value...semantics i suppose
Apr 25 13:37:49 <MJR_>	but yeah, how much of the value of the world do you have under your control = making it rain on bitches or not
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Apr 25 13:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.4055 = 6.8935 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 13:47:42 <tk993>	War starting to rage over bitcoin price.
Apr 25 13:47:58 <mod6>	starting?
Apr 25 13:48:10 <tk993>	toche.
Apr 25 13:48:18 <tk993>	Perhaps I meant a little battle.
Apr 25 13:49:03 <mod6>	mircea_popescu: i saw that 'dawn' deleted all those tweets. glad you followed it up with this: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/fire-in-alabama-lets-make-the-most-of-it/
Apr 25 13:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7999 BTC [-]
Apr 25 13:52:19 <mod6>	jeeze people over here are just a bunch of fake-it-till-you-make-it phonies
Apr 25 13:52:27 <jborkl>	https://twitter.com/BFL_News
Apr 25 13:52:39 <jborkl>	BFL sends a demo unit to Wired
Apr 25 13:52:39 <mod6>	well, at least these people in the MSM certainly all seem to be
Apr 25 13:52:50 <topace>	so, question - my webserver ie behind cloudflare, but it sends emails, the receiving SMTP server adds a "received from:" header to the message, revealign the IP of my server..
Apr 25 13:52:59 <jborkl>	assholes
Apr 25 13:53:04 <topace>	whats the solution to this? dont send emails? lol.
Apr 25 13:53:44 <ThickAsThieves>	dont send emails from your server?
Apr 25 13:54:23 <Scrat>	topace: I can still find your ip
Apr 25 13:54:32 <topace>	scrat yea probably
Apr 25 13:54:42 <ThickAsThieves>	dmca request?
Apr 25 13:54:43 <Scrat>	(not with a fake dmca)
Apr 25 13:54:59 <ThickAsThieves>	hrm
Apr 25 13:55:14 <topace>	Scrat: pelase let me know my IP, im changing it soon as i get the email thing figured out www.havelockinvestments.com
Apr 25 13:56:12 <Scrat>	you can query all 4 billion IPs on port 80 within a day
Apr 25 13:56:34 <Scrat>	one of them will present a http 200 for the host header havelockinvestments.com
Apr 25 13:56:47 <topace>	ahh
Apr 25 13:56:54 <topace>	i guess thats one way
Apr 25 13:56:57 <topace>	heh
Apr 25 13:57:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1998 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 14:00:50 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 was funny lol. she beleeeted it!!1
Apr 25 14:01:33 <Scrat>	akamai can setup a custom X-Header so you know it's them, you check for it and show vhost not found if it's not them
Apr 25 14:01:43 <mod6>	haha! i'm getting so sick of these clowns
Apr 25 14:01:43 <Scrat>	no idea if cloudflare does that
Apr 25 14:03:48 <ThickAsThieves>	heh, check ou this spike http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
Apr 25 14:03:50 <mircea_popescu>	<jborkl> BFL sends a demo unit to Wired did wired say anything yet ?
Apr 25 14:04:13 <mircea_popescu>	topace ouch. that';s no good.
Apr 25 14:04:16 <ThickAsThieves>	wired tweeted the delivery
Apr 25 14:04:43 <Scrat>	ThickAsThieves: sponsored by jesus himself
Apr 25 14:04:49 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat try this on mpex ?
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Apr 25 14:06:04 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: are you implying that it doesn't work? it can be avoided however if reverse proxies have set IPs and your webservers whitelist said IPs
Apr 25 14:06:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i should have clarified to look at the M1 chart to see the spike
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Apr 25 14:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	im just curious.
Apr 25 14:06:32 <Scrat>	no anti-ddos service has set IPs, they juggle them around, nullroute them ,etc
Apr 25 14:06:59 <Scrat>	takes a few ec2 machines to do it in a few hours, at a minimal cost
Apr 25 14:07:03 <topace>	actually, simply setting Allow from IP's in apache should fix that problem scrat
Apr 25 14:07:16 <topace>	so apache wont reply to any host thats not cloudflare
Apr 25 14:07:18 <mircea_popescu>	i'll save you the 4bn lookups : mpex.co.		474	IN	A	174.127.72.233
Apr 25 14:07:26 <topace>	could even firewall out all other IP's
Apr 25 14:07:37 <Scrat>	topace: here's the problem, they don't have set IPs
Apr 25 14:07:41 <topace>	yes they do
Apr 25 14:07:49 <topace>	https://www.cloudflare.com/ips
Apr 25 14:07:51 <Scrat>	they change netblocks
Apr 25 14:08:20 <Scrat>	how often does that list change
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Apr 25 14:08:30 <topace>	very little from what i can tell
Apr 25 14:08:33 <topace>	im sure they add/remove occasionally
Apr 25 14:09:06 <ll>	the ips are in your spf record
Apr 25 14:09:20 <topace>	ll: only if you put them there
Apr 25 14:09:50 <topace>	ill obviously be removing them when i switch IP's
Apr 25 14:09:57 <topace>	and leaving it as just the mail server im sending out from
Apr 25 14:10:11 <topace>	but i still need a way for tha tmail server not to add a  "Received from:" header
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Apr 25 14:10:34 <Scrat>	topace: would be a good idea then (to whitelist these blocks)
Apr 25 14:11:27 <ll>	can get it from your dns servers too
Apr 25 14:12:18 <topace>	ll: nope, dns is cloudflare
Apr 25 14:12:43 <ll>	no, your dns server
Apr 25 14:12:45 <ll>	dig havelockinvestments.com @ns1.lightbox.org
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Apr 25 14:14:14 <topace>	heh, forgot to deconfigure that
Apr 25 14:14:17 <topace>	its gone now, try again
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Apr 25 14:14:47 <ll>	yep
Apr 25 14:14:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.125038 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:15:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.125037 = 2.2501 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:15:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.125036 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:15:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.12501 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:15:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.125 = 9 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:15:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.123011 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:15:24 <topace>	so i can deal with a bruteforce scan of the entire ip4 range on port 80, by whitelisting/firewalling the cloudflare IP's
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Apr 25 14:16:20 <topace>	but i still dont know what to do with the damn "received from" header
Apr 25 14:16:20 <topace>	i guess insert emails to send into a database, and have another server pull them out and send the mail from there
Apr 25 14:16:58 <Scrat>	what do you use to send emails
Apr 25 14:17:11 <Scrat>	is the smtp server yours?
Apr 25 14:17:34 <topace>	yes, i would send through my business mail server (mail.lightbox.org)
Apr 25 14:18:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00069521 = 2.8504 BTC [+]
Apr 25 14:18:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.0006973 = 14.6782 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 14:18:20 <Scrat>	managed email delivery isn't such a bad idea
Apr 25 14:18:27 <Scrat>	sendgrid, postmark, whatever
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Apr 25 14:20:32 <Scrat>	also, prettu sure most SMTPd's can remove the from IP
Apr 25 14:20:38 <Scrat>	i know postfix can
Apr 25 14:21:57 <topace>	hmmm i use postfix
Apr 25 14:22:14 <mircea_popescu>	even better, point it to wh
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Apr 25 14:23:15 <topace>	wh?
Apr 25 14:23:18 <Scrat>	even better, have a stunnel on the smtp machine that points to it
Apr 25 14:23:35 <Scrat>	encrypted sending :)
Apr 25 14:23:40 <Scrat>	(useless but meh)
Apr 25 14:23:40 <MJR_>	stunnel nice
Apr 25 14:24:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 25 14:24:14 <MJR_>	i like pgp plus stunnel...
Apr 25 14:24:30 <MJR_>	pgp is more important, but i think stunnel is good protection from ddos
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Apr 25 14:36:40 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu I just realized you can use options as real insurance
Apr 25 14:37:15 <thestringpuller>	slowpoke meme
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Apr 25 14:46:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.12201 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:46:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.122 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:46:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1151 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:46:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:46:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.11 = 5.55 BTC [-]
Apr 25 14:46:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.106 = 5.53 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 14:52:11 <MJR_>	whats up with the OIX?
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Apr 25 14:52:33 <mod6>	no options bought or sold
Apr 25 14:52:41 <mod6>	and today is options expiration
Apr 25 14:52:47 <mod6>	err tomorrow.
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Apr 25 14:54:12 <mod6>	my guess is that the OIX return to its normal state of tracking pricing via options once the book rolls over for next month.  every since the correction on the 10th it's been pretty minimal for options.
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Apr 25 14:56:11 <mod6>	i dunno. *shrug*
Apr 25 14:57:35 <mod6>	$vwap ^OIX
Apr 25 14:57:36 <mpexbot>	mod6: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: no data
Apr 25 15:01:48 <ThickAsThieves>	gribble always amazes me
Apr 25 15:01:49 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:00] <+Rav3n> ;;8ball am i screwed?
Apr 25 15:01:49 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:00] <gribble> The outlook is poor.
Apr 25 15:01:49 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:01] <+Rav3n> ;;8ball does that mean I'm gonna lose big time?
Apr 25 15:01:49 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:01] <gribble> It is so.
Apr 25 15:01:49 <ThickAsThieves>	[15:01] <+Rav3n> fuck
Apr 25 15:03:18 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 25 15:03:19 <gribble>	73122.7340805
Apr 25 15:05:26 <jurov>	reading it all up... i thing i got a plan to boycott mpex.
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Apr 25 15:06:11 <jurov>	CoinBr is boycotting racist exchange!!!
Apr 25 15:06:23 <jurov>	(*)Balances will not be refunded.
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Apr 25 15:06:40 <jurov>	i like that plan, what do you say?
Apr 25 15:08:52 <mod6>	heheh. i just smh at stuff I read on btctalk
Apr 25 15:09:13 <mod6>	most of it anyway
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Apr 25 15:10:54 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 quite likely.
Apr 25 15:11:48 <mircea_popescu>	also pls don't boycott mpex
Apr 25 15:12:01 *	hungryhippo boycotts all the things.
Apr 25 15:12:02 <mircea_popescu>	every time you boycott mpex I whip a kitten.
Apr 25 15:12:09 <mod6>	haha
Apr 25 15:12:15 *	hungryhippo sits on kittens
Apr 25 15:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	mine are freshly shaved
Apr 25 15:14:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://reason.com/archives/2005/08/01/who-killed-paypal/print
Apr 25 15:14:08 <mircea_popescu>	this is a good lol.
Apr 25 15:16:06 <jimbo2k>	is there a way to short bitcoins?
Apr 25 15:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	while one Silicon Valley lawyer wrote in the California legal publication The Recorder that PayPal was an ideal money laundering mechanism for "drug dealers and domestic terrorists,"
Apr 25 15:16:47 <mircea_popescu>	jimbo2k you can buy puts/sell calls short on mpex.
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Apr 25 15:30:42 <jurov>	seongyupyoo, what about sending the btc to *minable* blackhole and publish the challenge?
Apr 25 15:31:06 <jurov>	oh hes away
Apr 25 15:31:32 <jurov>	interesting stuff happens when i;m not around, as always
Apr 25 15:31:44 <kakobrekla>	go away
Apr 25 15:31:51 <kakobrekla>	joke
Apr 25 15:31:57 <kakobrekla>	(jurov)
Apr 25 15:32:10 <kakobrekla>	fyi that is a hug.
Apr 25 15:32:14 <ThickAsThieves>	mp I am interested to know what you think about Gov Rick Scott, FL, wanting welfare recipients to take and pass drug tests to qualify
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Apr 25 15:43:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.178799 BTC [+]
Apr 25 15:45:16 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: YES, i am curious too
Apr 25 15:45:21 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 25 15:45:22 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.517559 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00103718244112 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
Apr 25 15:45:38 <MJR_>	but, if i had to guess, why are we giving them anything drug test or not...do drugs all you want and support yourself...
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Apr 25 15:46:06 <MJR_>	however, i think that they should do this to any ceo or board member of a company that needs a bailout
Apr 25 15:46:25 <MJR_>	since they will also be accepting public assistance, we want to make sure they won't spend it on drugs!
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Apr 25 15:47:01 <ThickAsThieves>	i cant pinpoint why i dont like perfectly
Apr 25 15:47:07 <ThickAsThieves>	it just seems like mixing issues to me
Apr 25 15:47:13 <MJR_>	jurov: that is a great idea...i like the idea of remining coins
Apr 25 15:47:59 <MJR_>	ThickAsThieves: i think its abhorrent, but most people would say that the issue is not drugs but rather welfare...that is where the issues mix, what does drugs have to do with welfare? (you could argue that one leads to the other, but i think that is a simplistic, facile argument)
Apr 25 15:49:02 <ThickAsThieves>	and where do you draw the line?
Apr 25 15:49:16 <ThickAsThieves>	if they gain 40lbs do they lose welfare?
Apr 25 15:49:17 <jurov>	as soon as you want to assess welfare recipient eligibility, you sow the seeds of potentially unbounded bureaucracy
Apr 25 15:49:34 <jurov>	so let's have equal minimal income, or no welfare at all
Apr 25 15:50:08 <ThickAsThieves>	if they get a parking ticket do they lose welfare?
Apr 25 15:50:17 <ThickAsThieves>	its too much like parenting or something
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Apr 25 15:53:11 <joecool>	jurov: that's about the best way to look at it, the muddy middleground always ends up bad
Apr 25 15:53:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9157 @ 0.00069843 = 6.3955 BTC [+]
Apr 25 15:56:42 <jurov>	topace, amazon offers SES service for email where any received from: headers are all unroutable private IPs
Apr 25 15:57:01 <jurov>	i plan to use it
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Apr 25 15:59:34 <jurov>	and the port 80 problem can be solver by using another port and telling cloudflare to use it
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Apr 25 16:00:34 <jurov>	increases portscan complexity 65000x
Apr 25 16:00:49 <asciilifeform>	The proposal to test welfare recipients for drugs reminds me of:
Apr 25 16:01:00 <jurov>	omg, i was only admin for 7 years in a little company
Apr 25 16:01:07 <asciilifeform>	" It is a curious fact that in America public assistance is only made available to the miserable and the downtrodden, not to those who are in need of some free money but are otherwise perfectly content. Although it is just as possible to be poor and happy in America as anywhere else, here one must make a choice: to avoid any number of unpleasant situations, one must be careful to hide either the fact that one is
Apr 25 16:01:07 <asciilifeform>	 poor, or the fact that one is happy."
Apr 25 16:01:12 <asciilifeform>	(http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010/08/miserable-pursuits.html)
Apr 25 16:01:23 <jurov>	don't tell me nobody other can think about such things????
Apr 25 16:03:11 <jurov>	perhaps everyone aho should be thinking about practical security is jerking off about taxes and welfare???
Apr 25 16:03:12 <topace>	http://www.businessinsider.com/canadian-banks-closing-bitcoin-businesses-2013-4
Apr 25 16:03:49 <jurov>	like yesterday. i had nice talk about how to be safe in bitcoinland and about all the heists
Apr 25 16:04:08 <kakobrekla>	!sell vtx -all
Apr 25 16:04:12 <jurov>	but had to wait for libertard who expounded for hour and a half
Apr 25 16:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well... i don't have an opinion.
Apr 25 16:04:22 <jurov>	and drove half of audience away
Apr 25 16:04:36 <jurov>	 /rant
Apr 25 16:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	jurov was this your conference thing you were going to ?
Apr 25 16:05:59 <jurov>	it was this: https://www.progressbar.sk/calendar/bitcoinove-trhy bitcoin markets for newbs
Apr 25 16:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	aha
Apr 25 16:07:41 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform dunno about that theory rly. burning man is all about showing off how poor and happy you are
Apr 25 16:07:44 <mircea_popescu>	chicks apparently dig it.
Apr 25 16:08:39 <ThickAsThieves>	you dont have an opinion?
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Apr 25 16:08:45 <ThickAsThieves>	really?
Apr 25 16:08:49 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: burning man is full of "marie antoinette poor", not actual poor.
Apr 25 16:08:58 <mircea_popescu>	nevertheless.
Apr 25 16:09:06 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well yes.
Apr 25 16:09:17 <ThickAsThieves>	how about a anthropological or philosophical perspective then
Apr 25 16:09:19 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the difference matters.
Apr 25 16:09:40 <mircea_popescu>	it's catch-22. allowing idiots to use drugs is certainly going to lead to this business-enforced drug policy. because it's cheaper to pay crackheads and who the fuck cares they die in five years, all the better.
Apr 25 16:09:46 <mircea_popescu>	disalowing it is too much like parenting.
Apr 25 16:10:21 <ThickAsThieves>	i also find it to be in contrast to the current republican agenda
Apr 25 16:10:31 <ThickAsThieves>	gov is telling people how to live
Apr 25 16:10:42 <ThickAsThieves>	i guess they hate gays too...
Apr 25 16:10:43 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: nobody would bother testing the poor for drugs if they didn't need to work.
Apr 25 16:10:45 <mircea_popescu>	here's the thing : there's always going to be a class of people who need to be told how to live.
Apr 25 16:10:55 <mircea_popescu>	be it roman empire slaves or contemporary us social media crowds,
Apr 25 16:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	it's a fact.
Apr 25 16:11:01 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: Aristotle's natural slaves?
Apr 25 16:11:14 <ThickAsThieves>	is that a need or a preference?
Apr 25 16:11:23 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform they only test them at the workplace cause that's the food dispenser.
Apr 25 16:11:30 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves it's simple inability.
Apr 25 16:11:50 <mircea_popescu>	motherfucker. got a new camera, has EVEN SMALLER USB
Apr 25 16:11:54 <asciilifeform>	(re: slaves: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2013/03/sam-altman-is-not-blithering-idiot.html)
Apr 25 16:12:18 <mircea_popescu>	aha! at least they include cable. way to go sony.
Apr 25 16:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform hmm... i think i wrote an article about altman recently
Apr 25 16:12:41 <ThickAsThieves>	now we're gonna get even more MP self-shots
Apr 25 16:12:44 <mircea_popescu>	what, is the modlbug reading me ?!
Apr 25 16:13:02 <asciilifeform>	drug testing is a multibillion-dollar business in the U.S.; arguably it is the employers who are the chumps here (they are bamboozled into thinking that it matters whether the fry cook smokes dope.)
Apr 25 16:13:17 <ThickAsThieves>	can we get a picture of you taking a picture of you taking a picture of yourself?
Apr 25 16:13:32 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform the us employers are forced into being a sort of government subsidiary.
Apr 25 16:13:42 <mircea_popescu>	they implement govt policy, handle the herd, get some trimmings.
Apr 25 16:14:07 <ThickAsThieves>	god forbid they put the money into improving education
Apr 25 16:14:27 <asciilifeform>	AFAIK testing mcdonalds cooks isn't mandatory (vs. truck drivers etc)
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Apr 25 16:16:29 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: altman is an infamous social butterfly / master investor milker. most of his success is from being chums with paul graham.
Apr 25 16:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	aka the freakshow.
Apr 25 16:17:35 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves education can not be improved with money.
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Apr 25 16:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	the only way to do it is if you take the urban poor, beat them and starve them.
Apr 25 16:17:54 <mircea_popescu>	that doesn't take money, that takes the will to do so.
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Apr 25 16:18:56 <jurov>	mircea_popescu does any research at least marginally confirm this?
Apr 25 16:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	yes, my own.
Apr 25 16:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	afaik nobody has done research on beating people.
Apr 25 16:19:25 <ThickAsThieves>	i am skeptical the money cannot be used to improve american education
Apr 25 16:19:27 <jurov>	no, but they did on literacy/math skills
Apr 25 16:19:38 <ThickAsThieves>	there are many ways to throw money at education the dont work
Apr 25 16:19:46 <ThickAsThieves>	that doesnt mean it cant be done
Apr 25 16:19:51 <jurov>	and it isn't so much about money. but not about beating, either.
Apr 25 16:19:54 <mircea_popescu>	listen, it's very simple. kid today as 5000 years ago has to answer a simple question : why the fuck am i learning all this ?
Apr 25 16:20:05 <mircea_popescu>	"because if you don't i'll fucking beat you to death" is an excellent answer.
Apr 25 16:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	find another.
Apr 25 16:20:17 <ThickAsThieves>	so the money goes to determining better ways and things to educate
Apr 25 16:20:30 <asciilifeform>	the urban poor are a tremendous profit making engine for various industries (e.g. pharma: http://partialobjects.com/2011/06/staggering-thought-of-the-day/) into which oceans of money are funneled through them.
Apr 25 16:20:45 <ThickAsThieves>	when i was in school i was smart enough to know i was not being taught the way that suited me
Apr 25 16:20:59 <ThickAsThieves>	the way we teach is not optimal at all
Apr 25 16:21:08 <mircea_popescu>	that's the point of teaching
Apr 25 16:21:11 <mircea_popescu>	to change you.
Apr 25 16:21:21 <ThickAsThieves>	some teachers reached me
Apr 25 16:21:25 <ThickAsThieves>	others annoyed me
Apr 25 16:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	until you're optimal for it. not the other fucking way around.
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Apr 25 16:22:03 <ThickAsThieves>	also, we already require too much parenting by teachers
Apr 25 16:22:08 <ThickAsThieves>	now you wanna beat the kids
Apr 25 16:22:26 <jurov>	there certainly is research about punishment to performance. on better statistical sample than mircea's
Apr 25 16:22:39 <asciilifeform>	any system of organizing society (education, work, whatever) that doesn't include a hard mechanism for separating actual people from meat puppets is doomed.
Apr 25 16:22:49 <ThickAsThieves>	its not hard to prove that beating someone gets them to do what you want...
Apr 25 16:22:54 <ThickAsThieves>	stats not needed
Apr 25 16:23:18 <mircea_popescu>	jurov punishment only works if the punished literally perceives there is no alternative and his life is forfeit.
Apr 25 16:23:21 <ThickAsThieves>	you cant jump to extremes
Apr 25 16:23:23 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise it's dicking about.
Apr 25 16:23:31 <jurov>	where we left the saying you can't make horse drink ?
Apr 25 16:23:38 <mircea_popescu>	o but you can.
Apr 25 16:23:43 <ThickAsThieves>	to say somehting is not absolutely solvable, therefore why imrove it
Apr 25 16:23:49 <ThickAsThieves>	imprive*
Apr 25 16:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	there's a lot of power in the conservation instinct.
Apr 25 16:23:52 <ThickAsThieves>	improve*
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Apr 25 16:24:04 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well... you can't improve it the way you broke it i think.
Apr 25 16:24:39 <ThickAsThieves>	and you cant solve it by resorting to the lowest common denominator either
Apr 25 16:24:44 <asciilifeform>	you can make the horse drink. but sometimes the horse is Munchausen's horse: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/forgottenfutures/munch/cruik4.gif
Apr 25 16:24:48 <ThickAsThieves>	not solve // improve
Apr 25 16:25:21 <mircea_popescu>	the problem kids face, especially while small, is that they have no clue. that's why they're in school, to figure shit out.
Apr 25 16:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	you can't expect them to self-motivate. if they had enough of a clue as to what's what they wouldn't need school.
Apr 25 16:25:43 <ThickAsThieves>	yes, and we can do a better job helping them to do so
Apr 25 16:25:52 <jurov>	punishment works if kids know what they are punished for
Apr 25 16:26:02 <mircea_popescu>	there's nothing to help. all you can do is "learn this!" as an absolute imperative.
Apr 25 16:26:09 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: they're in school to figure out hierarchy/obedience.
Apr 25 16:26:09 <jurov>	but who'll bother explaining to them?
Apr 25 16:26:19 <ThickAsThieves>	we cant make an increasingly complex society without taking responsibility for ushering people into it
Apr 25 16:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform these two are not distinct.
Apr 25 16:26:23 <ThickAsThieves>	well, we shouldnt
Apr 25 16:26:25 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker --last
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Apr 25 16:26:34 <ThickAsThieves>	133, heh
Apr 25 16:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	as it should be.
Apr 25 16:27:51 <ThickAsThieves>	admittedly i'm a bit more of an idealist, evolutionist
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Apr 25 16:28:14 <mircea_popescu>	but explain this to me. kid's nine. he should be learning multiplication table. how does that get done ?
Apr 25 16:28:16 <ThickAsThieves>	i do think we can steer our path
Apr 25 16:28:25 <mircea_popescu>	he has no way to know why it's useful.
Apr 25 16:28:28 <mircea_popescu>	what now ?
Apr 25 16:28:33 <ThickAsThieves>	good example
Apr 25 16:28:42 <ThickAsThieves>	use a more applied way of schooling
Apr 25 16:28:47 <ThickAsThieves>	that was my problem
Apr 25 16:28:50 <mircea_popescu>	age honored way is to go "either you learn this or i mash you into a pulp"
Apr 25 16:28:53 <ThickAsThieves>	i learn by doing
Apr 25 16:28:56 <ThickAsThieves>	not by being told
Apr 25 16:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	this has had kids know multiplication for ~2500 years.
Apr 25 16:29:12 <Uglux>	huuuge dump
Apr 25 16:29:19 <mircea_popescu>	the recent method of i dunno wtf it is... has kids... not able to multiply.
Apr 25 16:29:20 <ThickAsThieves>	i remember i had this huge mental block learning geometry
Apr 25 16:29:38 <MJR_>	yeah, that makes sense...kids (and many other people in society) won't understand why things are necesssary....that's why you say because i told you so
Apr 25 16:29:44 <ThickAsThieves>	yet i got a job that involved it and took to it quickly
Apr 25 16:30:03 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ for that matter, people keep going "o, i dunno what good a philosophy degree would be IRL"
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Apr 25 16:30:14 <jurov>	parents heavily involved... and i knew it is useful
Apr 25 16:30:18 <mircea_popescu>	and i usually go "ya douchy, i own you in any way and you dunno what my degree is for. wd."
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Apr 25 16:30:38 <asciilifeform>	the kid is taught the times table to see if he is trainable. as witnessed by the fact that the times table continued to be taught, even in times and places where the people running the show don't give a damn whether anyone actually knows their times table.
Apr 25 16:30:46 <jurov>	if they just threatened to pulp me if i don't learn... then i;m not sure i'd really learn
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Apr 25 16:31:02 <mircea_popescu>	jurov not as a theory.
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Apr 25 16:31:10 <jurov>	some other things i knew i did not need, i did not learn
Apr 25 16:31:13 <mircea_popescu>	in practice. you get as many lashes as you can take.
Apr 25 16:31:19 <jurov>	no matter whet. and just got bad grades
Apr 25 16:31:21 <Scrat>	;;goxlag
Apr 25 16:31:24 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 50.300903 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.100802446415 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
Apr 25 16:31:25 <mircea_popescu>	not bad grades dood.
Apr 25 16:31:33 <mircea_popescu>	pain until you faint
Apr 25 16:31:38 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 25 16:31:39 <mircea_popescu>	cold water, rehash.
Apr 25 16:31:50 <mircea_popescu>	at some point you either beg to be allowed to learn it
Apr 25 16:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	or just die.
Apr 25 16:31:56 <MJR_>	eh, you learn if you want to learn
Apr 25 16:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	either way, we pre-dig the graves.
Apr 25 16:32:05 <MJR_>	grim
Apr 25 16:32:08 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Apr 25 16:32:10 <asciilifeform>	times table and lashes plus a real person = educated, functional; times table and lashes plus a meat pupper: expert at dodging punishment.
Apr 25 16:32:11 <ThickAsThieves>	mp your approach is simply too primitive for me
Apr 25 16:32:17 <asciilifeform>	*puppet
Apr 25 16:32:18 <ThickAsThieves>	i can rationalize it n all
Apr 25 16:32:19 <mircea_popescu>	there's this VERY grim undercurrent in education people never wish to face.
Apr 25 16:32:22 <ThickAsThieves>	but cmon
Apr 25 16:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	education in fact has death in it.
Apr 25 16:32:36 <jurov>	then i'll be unlearning obedience not 15 years, but 30 if ever
Apr 25 16:32:44 <ThickAsThieves>	life has death in it
Apr 25 16:32:50 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yeah.
Apr 25 16:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	jurov shockingly obedience is very easy to unlearn if you're trained properly
Apr 25 16:33:16 <mircea_popescu>	(ie, no excuses are ever made)
Apr 25 16:33:23 <asciilifeform>	"with an ugh and a groan and a click of the heels, death comes quiet or it comes with squeals..."
Apr 25 16:33:26 <ThickAsThieves>	everything we do could be called a big distraction from self-awareness of our own mortality
Apr 25 16:34:05 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: do tell, and how many of teachers/parents can actually do it properly?
Apr 25 16:34:12 <mircea_popescu>	virtually none.
Apr 25 16:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	i don't propose this as a practical solution, mind.
Apr 25 16:34:28 <MJR_>	i learn without threat
Apr 25 16:34:32 <jurov>	you don't seem to have any other solution
Apr 25 16:34:35 <MJR_>	i learn for incentives
Apr 25 16:34:43 <MJR_>	and i would say i learn more and faster
Apr 25 16:34:51 <ThickAsThieves>	i enoy learning on my own terms
Apr 25 16:34:59 <mircea_popescu>	jurov im just saying, this is the way things'd work absolutely. that it's not implementable... not my problem :D
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Apr 25 16:35:15 <jurov>	fkn hipster... not his prob
Apr 25 16:35:19 <MJR_>	well, take 3 steps back...is learning necessary? not always
Apr 25 16:35:19 <mircea_popescu>	ehehehe
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Apr 25 16:35:32 <mircea_popescu>	it's never necessary. it's always useful.
Apr 25 16:35:33 <MJR_>	if it is necessary, there are two paths
Apr 25 16:35:38 <ThickAsThieves>	yes but you maintain that money cannot be used to improve the overall education level of the US, no?
Apr 25 16:35:47 <MJR_>	one is disincentive for not learning...punishment
Apr 25 16:35:47 <mircea_popescu>	but in poihnt of fact you can always survive w/o knowing shit.
Apr 25 16:35:55 <MJR_>	the other is incentive for learning, reward
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Apr 25 16:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves my idea was that the reason us edsucation is fucked atm is exactly the misuse of money.
Apr 25 16:36:12 <mircea_popescu>	adding more won't credibly help.
Apr 25 16:36:16 <MJR_>	^i'd agree
Apr 25 16:36:26 <MJR_>	its cultural...and hopefully changing for the better
Apr 25 16:36:35 <mircea_popescu>	heh. notrly.
Apr 25 16:36:38 <MJR_>	when people say that asians are good at math...its cuz their parents make them good at math
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Apr 25 16:36:49 <MJR_>	they do not have the choice to NOT be good at math
Apr 25 16:36:50 <mircea_popescu>	kids learn from whoever they respect. in the 1850s that was the teacher.
Apr 25 16:37:01 <mircea_popescu>	by now it's some gang leader guy, with the charisma and the requisite qualities.
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Apr 25 16:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ azns get the stick. a lot.
Apr 25 16:37:26 <ThickAsThieves>	thats two diff problems
Apr 25 16:37:37 <ThickAsThieves>	how we spend money and what to spend it on
Apr 25 16:37:54 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves the unions have a great idea on the subject.
Apr 25 16:37:55 <ThickAsThieves>	yes we waste shit tons of cash
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Apr 25 16:38:06 <ThickAsThieves>	our priorities are all fucked up
Apr 25 16:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	notice that you pose false questions. the us govt has absolutely no choice on who and what to spend.
Apr 25 16:38:28 <ThickAsThieves>	the people within it have power to steer the cash
Apr 25 16:38:33 <mircea_popescu>	it's a "rational agent", ie, like water : can be dammed, can be piped...
Apr 25 16:38:40 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 25 16:38:43 <mircea_popescu>	will sit patiently in a glass waiting
Apr 25 16:38:54 <MJR_>	but my point is, if you "say" you value education but don't, you won't get education
Apr 25 16:39:03 <MJR_>	if you actually value education, you will get education
Apr 25 16:39:19 <MJR_>	if your children are in school on saturdays for 8 hours...you value education
Apr 25 16:39:19 <mircea_popescu>	ya but the problem is there's no way to value education w/o the markings on your ass.
Apr 25 16:39:25 <MJR_>	yes i agree
Apr 25 16:39:30 <MJR_>	even if just metaphorically
Apr 25 16:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	even if.
Apr 25 16:39:38 <ThickAsThieves>	i didnt need to get beat to value learning
Apr 25 16:39:40 <punkman>	saturday school? fuck that
Apr 25 16:39:47 <MJR_>	hehehe, yep
Apr 25 16:39:48 <mircea_popescu>	problem is, cultures which have this ethos don't need the pathos
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Apr 25 16:39:54 <MJR_>	exactly
Apr 25 16:39:58 <mircea_popescu>	but americans are disused. they will need to re-learn the hard way
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Apr 25 16:40:03 <MJR_>	exactly
Apr 25 16:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	so their grandkids might not need actual whippings
Apr 25 16:40:10 <MJR_>	that is the point
Apr 25 16:40:19 <MJR_>	you want education, you have to value education
Apr 25 16:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well i thouight we're discussing statistics.
Apr 25 16:40:36 <MJR_>	but when parents basically have the attitude of 'not my problem' or "just play along till you get out of school"
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Apr 25 16:40:48 <MJR_>	that is not valuing education
Apr 25 16:40:52 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Apr 25 16:40:55 <MJR_>	that is paying lip service to education
Apr 25 16:41:02 <MJR_>	wanting the benefits without the actual work
Apr 25 16:41:14 <MJR_>	nowadays you go to school so you can say you went to school
Apr 25 16:41:17 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not discussing stats, nor last resorts
Apr 25 16:41:18 <MJR_>	quite tautological
Apr 25 16:41:29 <MJR_>	i am educated because i got education
Apr 25 16:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	very weak society, one that wants the benefit but doesn't enjoy the labour.
Apr 25 16:41:39 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm saying we need to at least figure out how to figure out improving education
Apr 25 16:41:40 <MJR_>	point is, you have to learn because you want to know
Apr 25 16:41:44 <MJR_>	and you want to DO
Apr 25 16:42:09 <MJR_>	not because you want others to give you credit for having attended a school and paying tuition
Apr 25 16:42:19 <ThickAsThieves>	as a species we are capable of absolutely anything, it's just a matter of when we decide to do so
Apr 25 16:42:19 <MJR_>	its the biggest example of the free rider problem ever
Apr 25 16:43:13 <MJR_>	think of it this way, if schools produce education, i can go to one, and rely on the fact that i will be assumed to be educated
Apr 25 16:43:24 <MJR_>	without actually learning
Apr 25 16:43:43 <MJR_>	so if you take focus away from what school you went to etc, and on WHAT YOU ACTUALLY KNOW
Apr 25 16:43:51 <punkman>	well assumptions don't last long when you actually have to go to work
Apr 25 16:43:52 <MJR_>	that is a good first step
Apr 25 16:43:55 <asciilifeform>	"education" is a seriously abused word in application to the schooling of the masses. The root 'educe' being == 'to bring out.' There isn't usually much to bring out.
Apr 25 16:43:59 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ then you're a gypsy racist
Apr 25 16:44:00 <MJR_>	eh, incompetence is everywhere
Apr 25 16:44:08 <asciilifeform>	"The world's best magician cannot pull a rabbit out of a hat unless he is already in the hat."
Apr 25 16:44:14 <MJR_>	i agreer
Apr 25 16:44:17 <MJR_>	totally
Apr 25 16:44:23 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform at the risk of sounding insufficiently misanthropic, i beg to differ.
Apr 25 16:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	you'd be amazed what an excellent cocksucker sleeps in any random chick.
Apr 25 16:44:37 <asciilifeform>	time to call it what it is: obedience training. like the dog kind.
Apr 25 16:44:50 <MJR_>	point is, i want the person at mcdonalds to know the difference between "only lettuce, tomato and ketchup" and "no mustard, onions or pickles"
Apr 25 16:45:01 <MJR_>	they don't have to be geniuses
Apr 25 16:45:10 <MJR_>	but they should not be complete retards
Apr 25 16:45:20 <MJR_>	because that negatively impacts MY quality of life
Apr 25 16:45:26 <asciilifeform>	MJR_ the solution is pictograms. or ditch the clerk and install robots.
Apr 25 16:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think you can safely identify someone that way.
Apr 25 16:45:38 <MJR_>	this is the non altruistic argument for why education is important for all
Apr 25 16:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	my cto used to drive a truck for instance.
Apr 25 16:46:14 <MJR_>	i usually find that i learn the MOST when i have to solve a problem...no problems, no learning
Apr 25 16:46:40 <asciilifeform>	well yes, and at one point I ran cables. there needs to be an escape hatch, and the process is rather inefficient right now
Apr 25 16:46:49 <MJR_>	i figured out how to use *nix systems because i didn't have a computer and wanted my iphone to do everything a computer could do
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Apr 25 16:47:17 <MJR_>	so i figured out symbolic links (this was before iOS 1.1) and i figured out filesystems, etc
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Apr 25 16:47:32 <MJR_>	i figured out package management...and all the other things, to get what i wanted
Apr 25 16:47:36 <MJR_>	just a small example
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Apr 25 16:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a beating.
Apr 25 16:47:51 <MJR_>	i suppose...but now i welcome challenges
Apr 25 16:48:07 <MJR_>	i only feel happy when i am overcoming something
Apr 25 16:48:16 <MJR_>	figuring out something
Apr 25 16:48:24 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 25 16:48:26 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 118.574281 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.2376215315 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
Apr 25 16:48:26 <jurov>	typical #assets .. everyone talking about themselves and their beliefs, just mircea about sex
Apr 25 16:48:32 <kakobrekla>	look, they fixed it
Apr 25 16:48:34 <MJR_>	HAHAHA
Apr 25 16:48:38 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: don't know about you, but I would prefer a system that is up-front about the goal of separating people from meatpuppets, rather than pretending to do a million other inconsequential things
Apr 25 16:48:47 <MJR_>	^^agree
Apr 25 16:48:55 <mircea_popescu>	fu ju rov :D
Apr 25 16:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform i don't believe that separation is a matter of fact.
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Apr 25 16:49:13 <mircea_popescu>	i've never met actual meat puppets.
Apr 25 16:49:16 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 25 16:49:20 <kakobrekla>	jurov my belifs are that is not the case! urlpls mircea
Apr 25 16:49:34 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the "people who must be told how to live"
Apr 25 16:49:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136667640924.gif
Apr 25 16:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	make it last im running out.
Apr 25 16:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform this includes most researchers you know ?!
Apr 25 16:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	fuck, rms needs to be told to take a bath.
Apr 25 16:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4892 = 1.4676 BTC [+]
Apr 25 16:50:18 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: most researchers are meat puppets (with good calculating and recall ability)
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Apr 25 16:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	ya well you sound en route to the party of one
Apr 25 16:50:30 <Scrat>	can't, the bath is proprietary
Apr 25 16:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Apr 25 16:50:40 <jurov>	lol
Apr 25 16:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	scrat wins interwebs
Apr 25 16:51:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4251 BTC [-]
Apr 25 16:51:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.42500001 = 2.55 BTC [-]
Apr 25 16:51:04 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 25 16:51:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.425 = 2.975 BTC [-]
Apr 25 16:51:08 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I'm more of a "reich der zwei" sort of guy
Apr 25 16:51:14 <mircea_popescu>	even so.
Apr 25 16:51:26 <MJR_>	anyway, people either avoid challenges or welcome them, that is a great heuristic for separating out those who will learn and those who will do what they are told
Apr 25 16:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	i avoid most challenges. what nao ?!
Apr 25 16:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.425 = 2.975 BTC [-]
Apr 25 16:52:13 <jurov>	yeq. i went into bitcoin in hope to avoid some challenges, too :D
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Apr 25 16:52:32 <asciilifeform>	sort of how cats spend most of their time sitting around. efficient predators.
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Apr 25 16:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [-]
Apr 25 16:53:09 <mircea_popescu>	with cats its prolly the conspiracy of being cute.
Apr 25 16:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla got a better one for you : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136685028116.gif
Apr 25 16:53:40 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Apr 25 16:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.415 = 1.245 BTC [-]
Apr 25 16:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	"honey... gotta put these in water"
Apr 25 16:54:06 <jurov>	i see the roses i bought were put to good use
Apr 25 16:54:10 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 25 16:54:36 <MJR_>	lol
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Apr 25 16:55:14 <MJR_>	mircea_popescu: avoid challenges that can't be avoided...hard to explain i guess, but some things have to be done, not talking about wasting effort
Apr 25 16:56:14 <mircea_popescu>	yes. sometimes hard to distinguish from outside.
Apr 25 16:57:13 <asciilifeform>	rms above is a bad example. he has a "mad hermit" image (external and internal, as well) to maintain.
Apr 25 16:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	tbh i think he's just mildly retarded.
Apr 25 16:57:51 <asciilifeform>	his unbathed carcass and rags are as important as an actress's manicure.
Apr 25 16:58:01 <asciilifeform>	even if he's a natural.
Apr 25 16:58:02 <kakobrekla>	;;goxlag
Apr 25 16:58:03 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 2.923985 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00585963320143 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
Apr 25 16:58:20 <mircea_popescu>	dude everything's a conspiracy with you.
Apr 25 16:58:29 <jborkl>	oh lol 134
Apr 25 16:58:56 <jborkl>	131
Apr 25 16:59:01 <asciilifeform>	more like "prospiracy" (things that happen a certain way, because it actually makes sense, but having the appearance of purpose.)
Apr 25 16:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl there was a dude earlier telling me my article is out of date
Apr 25 16:59:14 <mircea_popescu>	rather than updating the article i updated the price
Apr 25 16:59:18 <jborkl>	oh my people running at the door screaming
Apr 25 16:59:22 <jborkl>	good call on that
Apr 25 17:00:04 <jborkl>	people panic so much, so easy to predict
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Apr 25 17:05:07 <jurov>	one needs to be constantly vigilant toward self... to not fall into habit of using self's intelligence to make others appear dumb, for example
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Apr 25 17:10:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00199 BTC [+]
Apr 25 17:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	what are you like a kantian ?
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Apr 25 17:15:46 <joecool>	panic time, fleanode netsplit
Apr 25 17:16:17 <mod6>	;;ticker --last
Apr 25 17:16:18 <gribble>	130.04000
Apr 25 17:17:10 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker --next
Apr 25 17:17:10 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a (1 more message)
Apr 25 17:17:12 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 25 17:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	fleanode lmao
Apr 25 17:18:40 <pizzaman1337>	;;ticker
Apr 25 17:18:41 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.79999, Best ask: 132.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 132.79999, 24 hour volume: 145217.59936021, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 144.61258
Apr 25 17:19:12 <mircea_popescu>	"to feague a horse is to put ginger up a horse’s fundament, and formerly, as it is said, a live eel, to make him lively and carry his tail well. It is said, a forfeit is incurred by any horse-dealer’s servant, who shall show a horse without first feaguing him."
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Apr 25 17:23:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00069843 = 5.4128 BTC [+]
Apr 25 17:24:31 <ThickAsThieves>	newsflash eel meat found in horse sausages!
Apr 25 17:25:28 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha
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Apr 25 17:31:06 <KRS1>	wow that was fun
Apr 25 17:31:51 <KRS1>	driving down the interstate 5 lanes each direction at 80 mph buying and selling through my android in my diesel 4x4 truck
Apr 25 17:32:26 <ThickAsThieves>	...
Apr 25 17:33:11 <MJR_>	To decorate or improve in appearance through artificial means.
Apr 25 17:33:11 <MJR_>	To increase the liveliness of a horse by inserting an irritant, such as a piece of peeled raw ginger or a live eel, in its fundament.
Apr 25 17:33:26 <MJR_>	wow, talk about a time when context could really matter\
Apr 25 17:34:03 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 25 17:34:22 <MJR_>	that girl was really feaguing
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Apr 25 17:34:49 <MJR_>	and lol...there is actually a 3rd entry
Apr 25 17:34:58 <MJR_>	(obsolete) To beat or whip; to drive.
Apr 25 17:35:25 <MJR_>	either whipping, sticking eels up horses asses, or making yourself pretty with makeup...how could anyone ever miscontrue what i meant?
Apr 25 17:35:48 <asciilifeform>	don't look a gift horse... in the arse?
Apr 25 17:35:52 <MJR_>	hahaha
Apr 25 17:35:56 <ThickAsThieves>	all forms of primping :)
Apr 25 17:36:18 <asciilifeform>	sawdust in the gearbox, apparently timeless.
Apr 25 17:37:02 <mircea_popescu>	they literally aren't that distinct are they :D
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Apr 25 17:47:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.greaterfool.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/kid.jpg?161856
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Apr 25 17:58:25 <KRS1>	HAH
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Apr 25 18:01:31 <pgp3>	just looked at chart...  shit...  a couple hours can be an eternity in bitcoin land...
Apr 25 18:01:50 <kakobrekla>	:)
Apr 25 18:02:20 <mircea_popescu>	what now
Apr 25 18:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 25 18:02:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.16804, Best ask: 142.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.33186, Last trade: 142.16804, 24 hour volume: 166821.51265896, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 143.49206
Apr 25 18:02:26 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 25 18:02:49 <pgp3>	someone dumped A LOT of coin...  jeez...
Apr 25 18:03:33 <tiberiusiv>	not really
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Apr 25 18:10:19 <gesell>	can someone explain what happened that caused the drop to $90?
Apr 25 18:10:47 <KRS1>	lol
Apr 25 18:10:59 <Scrat>	pizza was delivered to the gox headquarters
Apr 25 18:11:01 <Scrat>	the rest is history
Apr 25 18:11:10 <KRS1>	this shit is nutty
Apr 25 18:11:20 <KRS1>	some corn on the side too
Apr 25 18:12:07 <gesell>	no really, i dont see much on reddit and wasnt around at the time
Apr 25 18:12:12 <gesell>	so what really happened?
Apr 25 18:12:28 <jurov>	should we tell him?
Apr 25 18:12:54 <KRS1>	look, its like this..this shit is nuttier than a port-o-potty at a peanut festival
Apr 25 18:12:57 <Scrat>	jurov: ssshhh
Apr 25 18:13:09 <pgp3>	lol
Apr 25 18:13:13 <mod6>	haha
Apr 25 18:13:39 <pgp3>	what do you mean $90...  I don't see that anywhere...
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Apr 25 18:14:05 <KRS1>	prolly a different exchange?
Apr 25 18:14:07 <gesell>	25th at 22:25 for 91
Apr 25 18:14:11 <gesell>	mtgoxusd
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Apr 25 18:15:04 <pgp3>	maybe that was the limit price?
Apr 25 18:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	gesell someone fucked up the wash trading ?
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Apr 25 18:15:32 <pgp3>	low was around 120
Apr 25 18:18:52 <gesell>	hmm... well i had a lot of orders at $88 that got fulfilled
Apr 25 18:19:04 <gesell>	guess it was my fault
Apr 25 18:20:59 <gesell>	oh blah
Apr 25 18:21:00 <gesell>	my bad
Apr 25 18:21:01 <gesell>	sorry
Apr 25 18:21:05 <gesell>	just reading the gox emails wrong
Apr 25 18:21:17 <gesell>	was from a long time ago
Apr 25 18:22:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 18:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.705 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 18:28:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.00111 BTC [-]
Apr 25 18:31:59 <thestringpuller>	;;tiocker
Apr 25 18:31:59 <gribble>	Error: "tiocker" is not a valid command.
Apr 25 18:32:00 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 25 18:32:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.25001, Best ask: 142.36000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 142.36000, 24 hour volume: 177752.29026620, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 143.50780
Apr 25 18:32:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1293 @ 0.00069843 = 0.9031 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 18:44:50 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu, that's what they call you. bitcoin billi-on-aire, lots of niggas say it ain't fair.
Apr 25 18:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	oddly, it's the crackers sayin' it ain't fair.
Apr 25 18:45:27 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Apr 25 18:45:39 <thestringpuller>	haters everywhere, tell em to grow a pair?
Apr 25 18:46:14 <thestringpuller>	as you sit in your lair, surrounded by bitches shaved with nair.
Apr 25 18:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	"The Less That You Wear, the More You Need Nair!"
Apr 25 18:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	lmao that's retarded.
Apr 25 18:48:00 <thestringpuller>	hahaha
Apr 25 18:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	basically sodium hidroxide ?! ouch.
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Apr 25 18:50:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00069955 = 1.0843 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 18:52:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01629 BTC [+]
Apr 25 18:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7997 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 18:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4485 = 4.485 BTC [+]
Apr 25 18:55:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4485 = 4.485 BTC [+]
Apr 25 19:00:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00070076 = 4.1695 BTC [+]
Apr 25 19:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4485 = 1.794 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 19:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.4201 = 4.6211 BTC [-]
Apr 25 19:17:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [-]
Apr 25 19:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.40070003 = 1.6028 BTC [-]
Apr 25 19:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.40070002 = 10.0175 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 19:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7997 BTC [+]
Apr 25 19:27:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.198 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 19:27:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.1981 = 0.9905 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 19:29:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.1983 = 0.9915 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 19:35:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.009996 = 0.06 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 19:35:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009997 = 0.05 BTC [+]
Apr 25 19:35:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00070076 = 6.3419 BTC [+]
Apr 25 19:35:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11617 @ 0.00070092 = 8.1426 BTC [+]
Apr 25 19:35:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Apr 25 19:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.28000002 = 0.56 BTC [-]
Apr 25 19:37:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.28000001 = 2.8 BTC [-]
Apr 25 19:38:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00303 BTC [-]
Apr 25 19:38:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 238 @ 0.00302 = 0.7188 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 19:46:46 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 25 19:46:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.10015, Best ask: 140.98999, Bid-ask spread: 0.88984, Last trade: 141.22614, 24 hour volume: 187759.77712509, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 143.12243
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Apr 25 19:52:55 <asciilifeform>	epic troll? http://www.americanbanker.com/bankthink/governments-must-co-opt-bitcoin-to-avert-disaster-1058380-1.html?zkPrintable=1&nopagination=1
Apr 25 19:53:57 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 25 19:54:00 <gribble>	There are currently 151705.18 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 12737481.7987 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0082 seconds
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Apr 25 20:03:14 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 120
Apr 25 20:03:17 <gribble>	There are currently 21257.668 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 2718075.47269 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
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Apr 25 20:05:10 <jcpham>	http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130425/srep01684/full/srep01684.html
Apr 25 20:05:20 <jcpham>	hurt yourself reading what i'm reading
Apr 25 20:06:31 <asciilifeform>	jcpham: idea: rape the algo traders who read this by implementing a contrarian algo
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Apr 25 20:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
Apr 25 20:17:05 <mircea_popescu>	A recent investigation has shown that the number of clicks on search results stemming from a given country correlates with the amount of investment in that country
Apr 25 20:17:12 <mircea_popescu>	totally. this is so useful and everything.
Apr 25 20:17:25 <mircea_popescu>	buncha onanists, these people.
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Apr 25 20:27:38 <seongyupyoo>	hi, i'm back with couple of questions
Apr 25 20:27:44 <seongyupyoo>	mircea still here?
Apr 25 20:28:00 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 25 20:29:07 <seongyupyoo>	cool, so i've been thinking really hard about destorying, and really the only way this system would be viable if the destroy funds are either really destroyed, sent to void, sent back to blockchain somehow
Apr 25 20:29:54 <seongyupyoo>	i'm wondering what ways there are to do 1. really destroy bitcoins 2. blackhole it 3. give it back to blockchain
Apr 25 20:30:01 <seongyupyoo>	could you help?
Apr 25 20:30:32 <ThickAsThieves>	what's the difference between 1 and 2
Apr 25 20:30:45 <mircea_popescu>	well, 1 justg send them to a fixed address like 1blackhole398759347589
Apr 25 20:30:51 <seongyupyoo>	i don't know as i don't know how to do either
Apr 25 20:31:07 <ThickAsThieves>	3 is best
Apr 25 20:31:16 <ThickAsThieves>	you dont want to be a destroying coins
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Apr 25 20:31:23 <ThickAsThieves>	and you couldnt prove that you were
Apr 25 20:31:30 <seongyupyoo>	ok so 1 and 2 are same
Apr 25 20:31:30 <mircea_popescu>	seongyupyoo its simple, just send coins to an address that nobody has the key for.
Apr 25 20:31:40 <mircea_popescu>	something arbitrary, like 1thisaddressisablackhole
Apr 25 20:31:53 <mircea_popescu>	you'll need to calculatge the checksums so it validates, but that's no big deal
Apr 25 20:32:02 <seongyupyoo>	ok
Apr 25 20:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	3 you could just add it as miner fee in a tx.
Apr 25 20:32:18 <ThickAsThieves>	but the problem there is you are accelerating deflation
Apr 25 20:32:26 <seongyupyoo>	so i got that now 1 and 2 are same and you just send to an address that no one has key to
Apr 25 20:32:29 <mircea_popescu>	like, make a tx with 100 btc inputs, 1 satoshi outputs
Apr 25 20:33:04 <seongyupyoo>	i'm not following you when you say make tx with 100 input to and 1 output
Apr 25 20:33:22 <mircea_popescu>	all bitcoin txs have some inputs and some outputs.
Apr 25 20:33:23 <seongyupyoo>	how verifiable is adding as fee though?
Apr 25 20:33:27 <mircea_popescu>	very.
Apr 25 20:33:28 <ThickAsThieves>	he means .00000001 output
Apr 25 20:33:37 <seongyupyoo>	people will need to be able to see that their exact fund amount has been destroyed at that time
Apr 25 20:33:56 <ThickAsThieves>	easy you just link them to the tx
Apr 25 20:34:00 <mircea_popescu>	you just check the tx in blockchain, it'll be there. 100 goes in, 1 goes out so 99 was miner fee
Apr 25 20:34:10 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e actual numbers.
Apr 25 20:34:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4033 @ 0.00070092 = 2.8268 BTC [+]
Apr 25 20:34:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11595 @ 0.00070129 = 8.1315 BTC [+]
Apr 25 20:34:55 <seongyupyoo>	so send money from my wallet to my wallet with 100 input and 1 output if i don't to give back 99?
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Apr 25 20:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	um
Apr 25 20:35:28 <mircea_popescu>	come again ?
Apr 25 20:35:52 <seongyupyoo>	i'm just trying to clarify how to make a transaction
Apr 25 20:36:02 <seongyupyoo>	who is it going to and from?
Apr 25 20:36:10 <seongyupyoo>	100 input and 1 output
Apr 25 20:36:11 <mircea_popescu>	whoever you want.
Apr 25 20:36:18 <ThickAsThieves>	you have to send an actual amount (i think) plus a tx fee
Apr 25 20:36:22 <mircea_popescu>	i think you'll have to read up on how bitcoin txs work
Apr 25 20:36:28 <ThickAsThieves>	most of the destroyed coin would be sent as the tx fee
Apr 25 20:36:35 <maximian>	send 0.00000001 BTC to any address, and specify a fee of 99BTC
Apr 25 20:36:35 <ThickAsThieves>	but you would send .00000001 of it to yourself
Apr 25 20:36:36 <seongyupyoo>	i see so it is fee
Apr 25 20:36:51 <seongyupyoo>	i understand that, i thought there was another way to manually setting input and output
Apr 25 20:36:57 <seongyupyoo>	how bad is destroying to blackholeaddress?
Apr 25 20:37:08 <ThickAsThieves>	i think its bad
Apr 25 20:37:15 <mircea_popescu>	pretty bad yea.
Apr 25 20:37:17 <ThickAsThieves>	and not necessary
Apr 25 20:37:20 <seongyupyoo>	ok
Apr 25 20:37:29 <seongyupyoo>	i think that settles it then
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Apr 25 20:37:45 <ThickAsThieves>	but do what mp said
Apr 25 20:37:50 <ThickAsThieves>	learn more about tx
Apr 25 20:37:52 <ThickAsThieves>	and blockchain
Apr 25 20:37:57 <ThickAsThieves>	and what your options are
Apr 25 20:38:00 <seongyupyoo>	i identified 4 big issues from all the feedback i gather today
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Apr 25 20:38:12 <ThickAsThieves>	because you might not want to send a 100btc tx fee
Apr 25 20:38:23 <ThickAsThieves>	you might want to send a lot of small ones
Apr 25 20:38:33 <ThickAsThieves>	depending on how mining pools snag them
Apr 25 20:38:34 <seongyupyoo>	would you guys like to hear the 4 problems, and my plan to solve them?
Apr 25 20:38:42 <mircea_popescu>	sure.
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Apr 25 20:39:10 <seongyupyoo>	well, if i send a lot of small ones, it would be hard for the traders to check their fund was destroyed
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Apr 25 20:39:25 <ThickAsThieves>	you can send more than one tx at once i think
Apr 25 20:39:37 <seongyupyoo>	i should start running a pool where i keep the transaction fee lol
Apr 25 20:40:01 <seongyupyoo>	then i'd need to provide many transation id as a proof of destruction
Apr 25 20:40:22 <seongyupyoo>	i think big fee would be fine
Apr 25 20:40:26 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe
Apr 25 20:40:32 <seongyupyoo>	also i figured out a way so that nobody will ever have to risk 100 BTC
Apr 25 20:40:39 <seongyupyoo>	probably 1 BTC to 10 BTC max
Apr 25 20:41:07 <seongyupyoo>	so max destruction is going to be 20-40 BTC at most
Apr 25 20:41:30 <seongyupyoo>	anyways, the first problem was issue of me running away with risk funds
Apr 25 20:41:38 <kakobrekla>	you are now arbitrarily setting what is ok give to pool ops?
Apr 25 20:41:59 <seongyupyoo>	I think I can remedy that by putting nashx under my current business of 7 years -> http://mosaically.com
Apr 25 20:42:10 <seongyupyoo>	so nashx might run under nashx.mosaically.com
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Apr 25 20:42:30 <seongyupyoo>	what do you guys think?
Apr 25 20:43:31 <usagi>	i don't know what's going on
Apr 25 20:43:32 <seongyupyoo>	2nd problem was destroying of the destroyed funds, and i'll handle that by sending it back to blockchain as fee
Apr 25 20:43:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46572 @ 0.000703 = 32.7401 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 20:44:29 <seongyupyoo>	3rd problem is transparency, basically the ability for people to be able to see all that is happening in terms of transactions
Apr 25 20:45:13 <seongyupyoo>	i'll remedy that by making all transactions and messages between trader and such available for public view
Apr 25 20:45:20 <ThickAsThieves>	1st problem seems like a non-problem with a non-solution
Apr 25 20:45:33 <usagi>	What was the middle thing?
Apr 25 20:46:18 <usagi>	I'm trying to understand this, so, you want to run a mining pool?
Apr 25 20:46:20 <seongyupyoo>	well someone thought that it was an issue, you're right it might not really be an issue. and it really isn't, but it was brought up, and i can see how some people might see that as risk
Apr 25 20:46:35 <seongyupyoo>	where as if it was under mosaically umbrella, then it would be under a corporation
Apr 25 20:46:42 <seongyupyoo>	more legit
Apr 25 20:46:58 <ThickAsThieves>	usagi: nashx.com/about
Apr 25 20:46:59 <seongyupyoo>	no i don't, i just made something called nashx
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Apr 25 20:47:17 <usagi>	So your goal is to make it legit.. and your not planning to quit, as a result of that? you will see this through?
Apr 25 20:47:20 <seongyupyoo>	last problem is problem of big transactions
Apr 25 20:47:34 <kakobrekla>	seongyupyoo, balances and txes are public and audiable... so transparency is not a big issue
Apr 25 20:47:38 <seongyupyoo>	yes i will see this through
Apr 25 20:47:52 <seongyupyoo>	at least to the next version having solve these 4 problems
Apr 25 20:47:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.01 = 0.35 BTC [+]
Apr 25 20:48:01 <seongyupyoo>	and i'll post it on reddit again, get feedback
Apr 25 20:48:06 <seongyupyoo>	sholdn't take long
Apr 25 20:48:11 <ThickAsThieves>	for the 3rd problem you can simply make your escrow address publicly known
Apr 25 20:48:16 <ThickAsThieves>	or addresses
Apr 25 20:48:26 <usagi>	Oh nashx. Thats a good idea, if it works you will be rich.
Apr 25 20:48:30 <ThickAsThieves>	however if you escrow everything you slow it down
Apr 25 20:48:45 <seongyupyoo>	we don't escrow
Apr 25 20:48:52 <usagi>	So what your saying is, you are too legit to quit. Sounds good :)
Apr 25 20:48:56 <seongyupyoo>	it's person-to-person
Apr 25 20:49:16 <ThickAsThieves>	where are te collateral coins stored?
Apr 25 20:49:22 <seongyupyoo>	well, i really feel that something like nashx needs to exist for everyone's benefit
Apr 25 20:49:43 <seongyupyoo>	what collateral? there's no need
Apr 25 20:49:52 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe i need to read it better
Apr 25 20:49:59 <seongyupyoo>	yeah i think so... :)
Apr 25 20:50:07 <usagi>	May I give you some free advice yupyoo?
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Apr 25 20:50:16 <usagi>	if I may call you yupyoo.
Apr 25 20:50:23 <seongyupyoo>	sure
Apr 25 20:50:28 <seongyupyoo>	my first name is seong yup
Apr 25 20:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154089.msg1946133#msg1946133 lol
Apr 25 20:50:30 <seongyupyoo>	last name is yoo
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Apr 25 20:50:42 <usagi>	Oh, I am used to last name first
Apr 25 20:50:59 <usagi>	I live here in asia you see.
Apr 25 20:51:24 <maximian>	Bitcoin has a mechanism for multisig transactions - destruction isn't necessary
Apr 25 20:51:32 <maximian>	https://blockchain.info/wallet/escrow
Apr 25 20:51:39 <usagi>	I assume you are from Korea? Have you been to Jeju island? I hear it is so beautiful.
Apr 25 20:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27500001 BTC [-]
Apr 25 20:52:26 <usagi>	Anyways, I don't like how you explain how you keep the destroyed funds, because until that moment you speak of the funds as "destroyed"
Apr 25 20:52:32 <maximian>	unless I've misunderstood what you're trying to do
Apr 25 20:52:51 <usagi>	so I would not try to justify how you do it, just state that you keep the funds "like a library fine" and leave it at that.
Apr 25 20:53:07 <usagi>	That's essentially what your doing. It's like a late fee charged at a video store
Apr 25 20:53:23 <usagi>	I don't think people are going to be concerned with that if your business takes off
Apr 25 20:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	alrighty, i'm off. cya tomorro.
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Apr 25 20:54:27 <deadweasel>	gnight
Apr 25 20:55:25 <seongyupyoo>	bye
Apr 25 20:55:35 <seongyupyoo>	the problem usagi is that
Apr 25 20:55:53 <seongyupyoo>	if i just leave it as is, i have incentive to make fake accounts and go on a destroying spree
Apr 25 20:56:09 <usagi>	So, hire someone to audit your books.
Apr 25 20:56:42 <usagi>	That's what I did with my company TU.SILVER. I have a registered CA looking at the books, and a highly trusted community member providing operational oversight
Apr 25 20:56:46 <seongyupyoo>	well sending it back to blockchain is the best way as far as i can tell atm
Apr 25 20:57:04 <deadweasel>	usagi, how is tu silver doing?
Apr 25 20:57:15 <seongyupyoo>	i would prefer to have a system that is good by design than have to hire people to watch over it
Apr 25 20:57:16 <usagi>	People place far too much faith in the long and winding road of procedure when in the end it boils down to trust anyways.
Apr 25 20:57:46 <usagi>	deadweasel: it's going very well.
Apr 25 20:58:09 <seongyupyoo>	that's true, but i think in this case, it is important to gain validation of smart people especially since bitcoin community has been hurt with so many scams
Apr 25 20:58:32 <usagi>	The fact is silver went down, but compared to if we just leveraged pure silver on the way down, my investors made ovr 100% compared to the price of silver today
Apr 25 20:58:43 <seongyupyoo>	i feel it must pass the standard of community on reddit in order for it to be adopted and used widely by the whole global community
Apr 25 20:59:10 <usagi>	All I am concerned with now is providing 1:1 leverage with silver since I believe we are approaching a long-term bottom in silver priced in BTC
Apr 25 20:59:26 <seongyupyoo>	what does your business do?
Apr 25 21:00:09 <usagi>	i sell investment grade silver coins, like canadian maples, FMJ 1/2oz rounds, etc.
Apr 25 21:00:29 <seongyupyoo>	maximilian, escrow does not work for my model because i don't want to be in the middle of people handling their transaction because of USD
Apr 25 21:00:47 <seongyupyoo>	i see
Apr 25 21:01:43 <seongyupyoo>	what do you do kakobrekla?
Apr 25 21:02:44 <usagi>	deadweasel; total divs to date: 0.034788, sliver/btc/10 price is now .016 or so per unit, so, over 200% profit
Apr 25 21:03:12 <deadweasel>	i understand the last part.
Apr 25 21:03:32 <deadweasel>	hows your service?
Apr 25 21:03:43 <seongyupyoo>	i need to get going, thanks for all your helps guys. i don't know how this chatroom operates exactly, but i will be back :)
Apr 25 21:03:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont want to get into it but it should be said that usagi's bookkeeping did not stand up to a public audit
Apr 25 21:03:47 <usagi>	free shipping 7 days anywhere in the world
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Apr 25 21:04:07 <usagi>	ThickAsThieves; there was no public audit.
Apr 25 21:04:36 <ThickAsThieves>	if anyone is interested talk to Deprived on the forums
Apr 25 21:05:10 <usagi>	Ahh, you mean when deprived stole our internal calculators and posted them on the forums? Those were internal company documents used to record buys and sells on bitfunder
Apr 25 21:05:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i have no interest in tusilver but i do trust deprived's abilities
Apr 25 21:05:39 <usagi>	They're not investment advice.
Apr 25 21:06:07 <usagi>	And they're not for public dissemination precisely because they would be assumed to be investment advice. They're not.
Apr 25 21:06:38 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 25 21:06:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.99999, Best ask: 141.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 141.00000, 24 hour volume: 188586.01119054, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 142.90861
Apr 25 21:07:20 <usagi>	If you want to know everything you need to know to build your own trading model, we use a coin and duty premium of $5 right now, which is less than the premium charged on the canadian maples we order exclusively from amagi metals
Apr 25 21:07:51 <usagi>	Beyond that we have a 2% markup and we use the actual rates we've paid for shipping in the price to factor that in
Apr 25 21:08:12 <usagi>	Now you know everything you need to know to calculate our value to within 5%, as our investment position has been disclosed.
Apr 25 21:08:48 <dub>	beyond (and before) that it is a fairytale that we wish you would stfu about
Apr 25 21:09:36 <usagi>	Yeah well I wish deprived would shut up about how I am selling shares unbacked by silver, but hey, if he has the right to lie then I have the right to correct him.
Apr 25 21:09:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13007 @ 0.00069955 = 9.099 BTC [-]
Apr 25 21:09:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1508 @ 0.00069458 = 1.0474 BTC [-]
Apr 25 21:09:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2136 @ 0.00069316 = 1.4806 BTC [-]
Apr 25 21:10:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.400002 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Apr 25 21:18:54 <tiberiusiv>	usagi what is your website
Apr 25 21:19:09 <usagi>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/TU.SILVER
Apr 25 21:19:32 <tiberiusiv>	what is it a silver fund?
Apr 25 21:19:55 <tiberiusiv>	now why would i want to own an industrial metal
Apr 25 21:19:58 <usagi>	Sort of. The idea is to keep the price of units at the cost of silver plus shipping and secure storage
Apr 25 21:20:27 <usagi>	You want my personal opinion? :p
Apr 25 21:20:36 <tiberiusiv>	why would i risk money with your junk fund when i can purchase silver futures instead?
Apr 25 21:20:47 <tiberiusiv>	offering me superior liquidity
Apr 25 21:20:50 <tiberiusiv>	and price
Apr 25 21:21:34 <usagi>	Well for one, when you try to get delivery in physical, you can be given a cash settlement by fiat
Apr 25 21:21:43 <tiberiusiv>	um no.
Apr 25 21:21:50 <tiberiusiv>	id recieve silver bars which are comex standard
Apr 25 21:22:03 <usagi>	really? I heard they were shortt
Apr 25 21:22:09 <tiberiusiv>	no they arent.
Apr 25 21:22:26 <usagi>	I sure hope not. :)
Apr 25 21:22:28 <tiberiusiv>	comex standard is 1000 oz bars
Apr 25 21:22:36 <usagi>	Do you have to pay a fee when you take delivery?
Apr 25 21:22:51 <tiberiusiv>	yea
Apr 25 21:23:00 <usagi>	Ahh.
Apr 25 21:23:05 <tiberiusiv>	but its not 30% above spot like your coins
Apr 25 21:23:13 <tiberiusiv>	and your fund is completely illiquid
Apr 25 21:23:16 <usagi>	Yeah we're sold out now and the market is setting the price.
Apr 25 21:23:25 <tiberiusiv>	+ you have no reputation
Apr 25 21:23:39 <usagi>	!getrating usagi
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Apr 25 21:23:49 <usagi>	oh
Apr 25 21:23:52 <usagi>	;;getrating usagi
Apr 25 21:23:52 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask usagi!Guest12477@122-121-246-63.dynamic.hinet.net . User Usagi, rated since Mon Jun 18 10:33:55 2012. Cumulative rating 33, from 32 total ratings. Received ratings: 28 positive, 4 negative. Sent ratings: 43 positive, 4 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Usagi
Apr 25 21:24:10 <tiberiusiv>	yea again why would i go to you when there is more safer, liquid and easier to access options?
Apr 25 21:24:23 <usagi>	Only you can answer that question
Apr 25 21:24:26 <tiberiusiv>	who checks what silver your fund is backed by
Apr 25 21:24:48 <usagi>	Let me put it this way. We sold over 1,000 units into the market. Anyone is free to offer their units for sale.
Apr 25 21:25:04 <usagi>	If you feel the price is too expensive, perhaps they know something you don't know? I dunno. I don't understand it myself. I just sell silver.
Apr 25 21:25:25 <usagi>	The holders are public info on bitfunder, you can check it yourself. I own around 300 shares personally
Apr 25 21:25:28 <tiberiusiv>	no i merely stated there is much better options
Apr 25 21:25:38 <usagi>	There are, if you're merely concerned with price.
Apr 25 21:25:39 <tiberiusiv>	vs some internet nerd operating on thin margins out of a basement
Apr 25 21:25:49 <tiberiusiv>	like that coinabul clown
Apr 25 21:26:00 <usagi>	Yeah but you're a little clueless when it comes to investing in silver, aren't you?
Apr 25 21:26:08 <tiberiusiv>	no
Apr 25 21:26:15 <tiberiusiv>	silver is not an investment. it produces no income
Apr 25 21:26:20 <usagi>	Yeah you are :) First, you are speaking out about a fund you know zilch about.
Apr 25 21:26:21 <tiberiusiv>	its a speculation and its an industrial metal
Apr 25 21:26:40 <tiberiusiv>	there is no evidence silver acts as a protection in the event of a crisis
Apr 25 21:26:41 <usagi>	For one, a 1000 oz delivery contract is vastly different than a guartantee on your choice of 1/2 oz rounds
Apr 25 21:26:50 <usagi>	The coin premium on 1/2oz rounds is easily 20% or more
Apr 25 21:26:52 <tiberiusiv>	sure its also 30% cheaper
Apr 25 21:26:57 <usagi>	Which explains the entirety of the "30% cheaper"
Apr 25 21:27:00 <tiberiusiv>	and more liquid via futures
Apr 25 21:27:13 <tiberiusiv>	and what secure storage do you honestly have?
Apr 25 21:27:18 <tiberiusiv>	your homes basement
Apr 25 21:27:38 <usagi>	It is more liquid. We're small. That doesn't justify the "nerd", "junk fund", etc.
Apr 25 21:27:50 <tiberiusiv>	yea just like that jay guy from coinabul
Apr 25 21:28:07 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d46dFmAmnuc
Apr 25 21:28:08 <usagi>	You are clueless, really :) Like that dub guy.
Apr 25 21:28:19 <tiberiusiv>	lol who would send this fking vagabond loser any money?
Apr 25 21:28:21 <usagi>	Want another example? You haven't read our contract.
Apr 25 21:28:22 <tiberiusiv>	coinabul
Apr 25 21:28:34 <tiberiusiv>	your contract means nothing you have no capital reserves
Apr 25 21:28:44 <tiberiusiv>	secure storage is a apartment or basement to you
Apr 25 21:28:46 <usagi>	Seriously, you're being retarded. You want to talk shit about how I do things and you don't know we deal in small denomination coins and haven't read our contract
Apr 25 21:29:03 <usagi>	Then you want to call it a junk fund because it's less liquid than a 1000oz futures contract?
Apr 25 21:29:07 <tiberiusiv>	why would i store small coins with you?
Apr 25 21:29:12 <usagi>	Seriously, stop wasting my fucking time.
Apr 25 21:29:15 <tiberiusiv>	no i call it a junk fund becuase you are SMALL time
Apr 25 21:29:17 <tiberiusiv>	and broke.
Apr 25 21:29:33 <tiberiusiv>	why would anyone want to store silver maples with a clown?
Apr 25 21:29:42 <tiberiusiv>	that can vanish any day
Apr 25 21:29:50 <usagi>	Why would anyone want to discuss the market with a clueless fuck like you?
Apr 25 21:29:56 <tiberiusiv>	im not clueless
Apr 25 21:29:59 <usagi>	Yes you are.
Apr 25 21:30:02 <tiberiusiv>	you operate on tiny profit margins
Apr 25 21:30:06 <tiberiusiv>	and have no capital reserves
Apr 25 21:30:18 <usagi>	You're whining about how we're 30% more expensive than a futures contract because we deal in 1/2 oz coins.
Apr 25 21:30:21 <usagi>	That's ignorant.
Apr 25 21:30:27 <usagi>	That's laughable.
Apr 25 21:30:28 <tiberiusiv>	no im not
Apr 25 21:30:30 <usagi>	Is that the best you can do?
Apr 25 21:30:37 <tiberiusiv>	im argueing why would i go buy coins and have them stored with YOU
Apr 25 21:30:41 <usagi>	I don't care
Apr 25 21:30:44 <tiberiusiv>	vs buying them from any other dealer ANYWHERE
Apr 25 21:30:48 <tiberiusiv>	and storing them myself?
Apr 25 21:30:56 <tiberiusiv>	since its fking $10 pieces
Apr 25 21:30:58 <usagi>	We are already sold out. Look, I got stuff to do. Go read our contract.
Apr 25 21:31:03 <usagi>	Go read our recent reports.
Apr 25 21:31:06 <tiberiusiv>	no thanks.
Apr 25 21:31:08 <usagi>	I don't give a shit if you buy on the market or not. Bye
Apr 25 21:31:25 <tiberiusiv>	your like a bank for ultra poor bitcoiners
Apr 25 21:31:28 <usagi>	But I will say this. it's fuckups like you and deprived that are the entire source of my problems.
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Apr 25 21:31:32 <tiberiusiv>	storing $10 silver coins
Apr 25 21:31:42 <tiberiusiv>	no you are the problem.
Apr 25 21:31:46 <usagi>	Not anything I did. Just a bunch of fucktards like dub who like to whine.
Apr 25 21:31:54 <tiberiusiv>	its business's like you that fuckup bitcoin credibility
Apr 25 21:32:11 <tiberiusiv>	lowlevel scum "selling" junk
Apr 25 21:32:23 <jamborambo_>	;;bids 0 command
Apr 25 21:32:23 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 25 21:32:33 <jamborambo_>	;;bids 1 command
Apr 25 21:32:33 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
Apr 25 21:32:40 <usagi>	I'll answer you when you can explain why the market disagrees with you. Why is it, praytell, the people invested in tu.silver won't sell below .12/unit? Go argue with the market.
Apr 25 21:32:51 <kakobrekla>	jamborambo_ ,
Apr 25 21:32:53 <tiberiusiv>	dude what are you talking about
Apr 25 21:32:56 <kakobrekla>	;;bids 0
Apr 25 21:32:56 <jamborambo_>	yes?
Apr 25 21:32:58 <tiberiusiv>	i dont care what your junk fund sells at
Apr 25 21:32:58 <gribble>	There are currently 33503613 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 18244987.8596 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0118 seconds
Apr 25 21:33:02 <tiberiusiv>	you are a SCUMbag
Apr 25 21:33:12 <tiberiusiv>	like jay @ coinabul and the other 50 broke ass precious metals dealers
Apr 25 21:33:14 <tiberiusiv>	on bitcoin
Apr 25 21:33:25 <tiberiusiv>	storing $10 coins.
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Apr 25 21:36:24 <usagi>	That didn't take long. I'm back.
Apr 25 21:38:22 <tiberiusiv>	post pictures of your "secure storage"
Apr 25 21:38:31 <tiberiusiv>	so we can all get a good laugh
Apr 25 21:38:39 <usagi>	Oh it's you again.
Apr 25 21:38:50 <usagi>	Look, if you have a question, or if there's something you want me to do, just ask.
Apr 25 21:39:03 <tiberiusiv>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.0
Apr 25 21:39:14 <tiberiusiv>	lol so you have a lengthy history of being a scum?
Apr 25 21:39:25 <usagi>	But it's clear that you have no idea what my business is or what it does. We're not a futures contract. We sell small denomination coins and there are no fees.
Apr 25 21:39:42 <usagi>	You haven't even read our contract. Go do some due dilligence before you come here and waste my time with "scumbag"
Apr 25 21:39:47 <tiberiusiv>	stop repeating yourself
Apr 25 21:39:54 <tiberiusiv>	you dont have a business
Apr 25 21:39:59 <tiberiusiv>	small time nerd with no money
Apr 25 21:39:59 <usagi>	Then stop repeating yourself.
Apr 25 21:40:09 <tiberiusiv>	another coinabul scammer
Apr 25 21:40:27 <usagi>	So tiberiusiv, how about that 6 BTC you owe me?
Apr 25 21:40:31 <kakobrekla>	you two, #bitcoin-trolls mkay
Apr 25 21:40:39 <usagi>	kakosan; roger.
Apr 25 21:40:50 <tiberiusiv>	what 6 btc?
Apr 25 21:40:57 <tiberiusiv>	i dont even know you lowlife
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Apr 25 22:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4111 = 0.8222 BTC [+]
Apr 25 22:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.21000001 BTC [-]
Apr 25 22:11:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13990 @ 0.00069316 = 9.6973 BTC [-]
Apr 25 22:11:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7710 @ 0.00068557 = 5.2857 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 22:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4111 = 0.8222 BTC [+]
Apr 25 22:12:38 <pgp2>	my phone just got stolen..  fuckin' blows...
Apr 25 22:12:54 <mod6>	:<
Apr 25 22:12:59 <kakobrekla>	uh
Apr 25 22:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4111 = 1.2333 BTC [+]
Apr 25 22:13:14 <kakobrekla>	but i dont feel so bad for trashing it last time anymore
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Apr 25 22:22:24 <dub>	lol
Apr 25 22:22:36 <dub>	tiberiusiv vs. usagi
Apr 25 22:24:08 <dub>	tiberiusiv way out of his depth on that one
Apr 25 22:27:26 <tiberiusiv>	lol
Apr 25 22:27:27 <usagi>	I thought u hated me :/
Apr 25 22:27:38 <tiberiusiv>	usagi is scum
Apr 25 22:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.4421 = 6.6315 BTC [+]
Apr 25 22:29:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.44229999 = 4.423 BTC [+]
Apr 25 22:29:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4424999 = 3.54 BTC [+]
Apr 25 22:29:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.443 = 2.215 BTC [+]
Apr 25 22:29:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.449 = 2.245 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 22:49:56 <benkay>	;;ticker
Apr 25 22:49:56 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.00000, Best ask: 136.26679, Bid-ask spread: 0.26679, Last trade: 136.00000, 24 hour volume: 205306.28466866, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 141.46468
Apr 25 22:50:52 <Diablo-D3>	!icker
Apr 25 22:50:53 <Diablo-D3>	er heh
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Apr 25 22:51:11 <dub>	tiberiusiv: quote for you > <nolander99> i made like 50 dollars off that dice thing on blockchain today
Apr 25 22:51:27 <tiberiusiv>	lol
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Apr 25 22:57:16 <benkay>	;;goxlag
Apr 25 22:57:17 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 1.415076 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00283579646002 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
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Apr 25 23:10:00 <benkay>	is mircea_popescu around?
Apr 25 23:11:00 <dub>	neg, sleepy|sexy tiem
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Apr 25 23:11:35 <orkaa>	:D
Apr 25 23:11:46 <thestringpuller>	dub: no wub wub!!!!
Apr 25 23:11:50 <thestringpuller>	STOP WITH TEH WUB WUB DUB
Apr 25 23:12:05 <dub>	wat
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Apr 25 23:12:37 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 25 23:12:38 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.52000, Best ask: 136.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.45999, Last trade: 136.52000, 24 hour volume: 207806.15950960, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 141.32468
Apr 25 23:12:41 <benkay>	watman
Apr 25 23:12:51 <benkay>	nananananananananananana
Apr 25 23:12:53 <benkay>	wat mat
Apr 25 23:12:57 <benkay>	watman*
Apr 25 23:13:10 <orkaa>	 O_o
Apr 25 23:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.21000001 = 2.42 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 23:15:19 <benkay>	http://blog.mkasprzyk.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/watman.jpg
Apr 25 23:15:43 <orkaa>	makes sense
Apr 25 23:16:40 <dub>	the watsign is a 3d projection of 2g1c onto a tall building
Apr 25 23:21:35 <benkay>	*golf clap*
Apr 25 23:21:47 <benkay>	+1 internet for you, sir.
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Apr 25 23:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29989998 BTC [+]
Apr 25 23:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29989998 BTC [+]
Apr 25 23:27:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29989999 BTC [+]
Apr 25 23:27:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2999 = 1.4995 BTC [+]
Apr 25 23:29:02 <ThickAsThieves>	random childhood flashback http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic327045_md.jpg
Apr 25 23:33:26 <orkaa>	what's this?
Apr 25 23:35:38 <ThickAsThieves>	they were toys
Apr 25 23:35:40 <ThickAsThieves>	tops
Apr 25 23:35:50 <ThickAsThieves>	they came with a little shooter
Apr 25 23:35:58 <ThickAsThieves>	and they were all ninja themed
Apr 25 23:36:04 <ThickAsThieves>	and there was a big arena
Apr 25 23:36:15 <ThickAsThieves>	so you and a friend would launch your tops
Apr 25 23:36:19 <ThickAsThieves>	to see who won
Apr 25 23:36:29 <ThickAsThieves>	they'd bump into each other
Apr 25 23:36:34 <ThickAsThieves>	til one stopped spinning
Apr 25 23:36:40 <ThickAsThieves>	simple
Apr 25 23:36:42 <ThickAsThieves>	but fun
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Apr 25 23:38:36 <orkaa>	never seen those
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Apr 25 23:41:35 <orkaa>	bah, sunrise :)
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Apr 25 23:49:59 <dub>	in my day we made our own toys out of mud and sticks
Apr 25 23:50:32 <dub>	at least until age 5 when we went to work in the mines
Apr 25 23:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999999 BTC [+]
Apr 25 23:52:33 <orkaa>	i had to walk 20km to school, uphill both ways, usually in deep snow
Apr 25 23:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 25 23:55:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1002 BTC [-]
Apr 25 23:55:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1001 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 23:56:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
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Apr 25 23:57:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.085 BTC [-]
Apr 25 23:58:39 <benkay>	you forgot the barbed wire sandals, orkaa
Apr 25 23:59:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 9 @ 0.198 = 1.782 BTC [-]
Apr 25 23:59:11 <orkaa>	yeah, and wolves
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Apr 26 00:17:16 <benkay>	is kakobrekla's socket up?
Apr 26 00:17:39 <benkay>	i gather not.
Apr 26 00:20:56 <benkay>	hey orkaa
Apr 26 00:21:11 <orkaa>	m?
Apr 26 00:21:38 <benkay>	what is the timestamp that comes off of the wire from kakobrekla's socket?
Apr 26 00:22:07 <orkaa>	hm, not sure
Apr 26 00:22:13 <orkaa>	probably unix time?
Apr 26 00:22:32 <benkay>	that's what i'm thinking
Apr 26 00:23:00 <benkay>	yup.
Apr 26 00:23:04 <dub>	orkaa: LUXURY
Apr 26 00:23:19 <benkay>	apologies for wasting your time on something googleable.
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Apr 26 00:26:13 <orkaa>	np
Apr 26 00:26:23 <orkaa>	gotta go to sleep
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Apr 26 00:36:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.01 = 0.15 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 00:55:09 <benkay>	here's a fun piece of data
Apr 26 00:55:29 <benkay>	by my calculations, mpex has had over 300k of BTC wagered on options alone
Apr 26 00:57:13 <benkay>	and may have broken through 1M contracts traded total this month
Apr 26 00:57:22 <benkay>	that latter's pretty likely, actually.
Apr 26 00:57:35 <benkay>	i could get better numbers, but kako's socket's not responding :(
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Apr 26 02:53:12 <jurov>	i supplied some data to kakobrekla and he found ISO format dates YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS+TZ unwieldy lol
Apr 26 03:00:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.15 = 2.3 BTC [+]
Apr 26 03:01:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.155 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 03:03:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [+]
Apr 26 03:03:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00303 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 03:07:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1725 BTC [+]
Apr 26 03:11:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.1725 = 10.5525 BTC [+]
Apr 26 03:12:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1744 BTC [+]
Apr 26 03:18:29 <KRS1>	u know whats unweildy? epoch time...I mean..why..
Apr 26 03:19:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.09 = 13.08 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 03:51:14 <Chaang-Noi>	hey all
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Apr 26 03:53:27 <KRS1>	t'sup man
Apr 26 03:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 45 @ 0.482 = 21.69 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 03:58:00 <Chaang-Noi>	back from a week on the islands
Apr 26 03:58:37 <Chaang-Noi>	yesterday had a big jump in ltc AM and btc, pretty crazy... these a crqazy ass swings to my portfolio...
Apr 26 03:59:10 <Chaang-Noi>	id liek some stability...
Apr 26 04:03:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6174 @ 0.00070057 = 4.3253 BTC [+]
Apr 26 04:03:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7343 @ 0.00070059 = 5.1444 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 04:07:45 <dub>	bitcointalk, all is not completely lost https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187698.msg1945197#msg1945197
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Apr 26 04:52:49 <truffles>	massive gamble not paying that 75 dollars a year
Apr 26 04:53:22 <Chaang-Noi>	?
Apr 26 04:53:37 <truffles>	in that thread about taxes
Apr 26 04:53:39 <truffles>	http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/12/07/9272989-firefighters-let-home-burn-over-75-fee-again#comments
Apr 26 04:53:52 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
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Apr 26 05:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform you'll have to one day sit down and write a full explanation as to why a. you think the us government matters at all and b. you think anyone other than you gives a shit.
Apr 26 05:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.7051 = 6.8204 BTC [-]
Apr 26 05:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	but i mean, a serious, explicit, inquisitive piece like if you were writing a physics paper.
Apr 26 05:48:39 <kakobrekla>	what is it down
Apr 26 05:50:17 <thestringpuller>	i thought mp said "like writing a physics engine"
Apr 26 05:54:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 26 05:55:05 <mircea_popescu>	it's kinda funny tho because unique among literate people americans have spent a century or maybe even two in the firm belief that their government is like... good etc. paying their taxes, trying to do what policeman says etc.
Apr 26 05:55:24 <mircea_popescu>	this is a strictly american phenomenon, unheard of anywhere else, from france to morocco and from russia to iran
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Apr 26 05:59:53 <kakobrekla>	;;later tell benkay is ok now
Apr 26 05:59:54 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 26 06:04:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134295962723.jpg
Apr 26 06:06:43 <kakobrekla>	jurov i dont remember what i found it
Apr 26 06:06:49 <kakobrekla>	but unix timestamp ftw
Apr 26 06:14:25 <MJR_>	what the fuck is wrong with people who make public policy?
Apr 26 06:15:14 <MJR_>	instead of actually just letting them pay the price that they say they would pay, we take the word for it and set a rate? how does that make any sense
Apr 26 06:15:25 <MJR_>	apparently the swaps market is also rigged like LIBOR
Apr 26 06:15:37 <mircea_popescu>	duh.
Apr 26 06:15:49 <MJR_>	well, that is not surprising
Apr 26 06:16:03 <MJR_>	but i just can't believe that no one actually does anything about it
Apr 26 06:16:08 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/329/btc-network-difficulty-tops-10-million-by-end/ funny how disputed this one ended up being.
Apr 26 06:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	somehow magically the bet submitter picked the exact spot where it'd be contentious.
Apr 26 06:16:48 <MJR_>	like...if i went to the supermarket, and they did a survey asking everyone there how much an orange would cost me...instead of letting us just bid on the orange or w/e
Apr 26 06:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	but this is more democratic.
Apr 26 06:17:12 <mircea_popescu>	and less capitalistic.
Apr 26 06:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	both these are good things. especially for people who need beatings, know they need beatings, want to get their ass beaten raw.
Apr 26 06:17:54 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 26 06:18:03 <MJR_>	its also funny cuz they are really DP'ing everyone
Apr 26 06:18:14 <MJR_>	let's cheat and fix the interest rate...
Apr 26 06:18:32 <MJR_>	and then let's cheat and fix the price it takes to switch from variable to fixed rate
Apr 26 06:18:39 <mircea_popescu>	then people want banks to like bitcoin
Apr 26 06:18:45 <MJR_>	how many other ways can you add corruption to a loan
Apr 26 06:19:00 <mircea_popescu>	yes dude, totally. they'll love bitcoin, where they have to come to me with that nonsense and be shown the door
Apr 26 06:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	they love this idea, pls moar.
Apr 26 06:19:38 <MJR_>	well..."banks" is not a great word...there are banks and then there are  banks
Apr 26 06:19:52 <MJR_>	its not a monolithic structure...
Apr 26 06:20:02 <mircea_popescu>	this is very true.
Apr 26 06:20:15 <MJR_>	but, once you are in the club, then you have no worries
Apr 26 06:20:24 <mircea_popescu>	on the other hand, i'm already buffing my cameras and mics for that glorious moment five or maybe three years down the road
Apr 26 06:20:31 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 26 06:20:34 <MJR_>	gonna be fun
Apr 26 06:20:37 <mircea_popescu>	when random anon bank ceo/vp/etc comes to bitcoin assets to start w/e project
Apr 26 06:20:42 <mircea_popescu>	and i go are you in the wot ? gtfo.
Apr 26 06:21:03 <mircea_popescu>	come back 1 yr.
Apr 26 06:21:10 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 26 06:21:14 <kakobrekla>	we all dreamin.
Apr 26 06:21:24 <mircea_popescu>	and he's gonna be all whiny and i'm gonna be all dude, we've had this interdweeb nonsense for 3 or 5 years by now.
Apr 26 06:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	stfu and do whart you're told.
Apr 26 06:21:54 <mircea_popescu>	and so he's going to dig up the old protest threads on btctalk and bitch about how im a gypsy racist
Apr 26 06:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	and then our victory will have been complete.
Apr 26 06:22:08 <kakobrekla>	lol
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Apr 26 06:22:29 <mircea_popescu>	now don't any of you trolls quote this discussion then until after i'm done making teh banker my cockpuppet.
Apr 26 06:22:30 <MJR_>	hehehe
Apr 26 06:22:44 <MJR_>	ewwww, you want a banker for a cockpuppet?
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Apr 26 06:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	metaphorically speaking.
Apr 26 06:22:51 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 26 06:22:56 <MJR_>	i know of course
Apr 26 06:22:59 <mircea_popescu>	i have a 10 foot cock, i can stick it into banker
Apr 26 06:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	a little
Apr 26 06:23:01 <mircea_popescu>	at the tip
Apr 26 06:23:45 <mircea_popescu>	speaking of bankers, anyone have any favorite burlesque performers ?
Apr 26 06:23:58 <mircea_popescu>	i'm going to do like l'oreal etc and have a mpex image chick.
Apr 26 06:25:41 <pizzaman1337>	this is why I have logging turned on
Apr 26 06:25:54 <MJR_>	HAHAHA
Apr 26 06:25:55 <kakobrekla>	:D
Apr 26 06:25:56 <MJR_>	yes
Apr 26 06:26:07 <MJR_>	are we going to have the website to archive all of this?
Apr 26 06:26:19 <kakobrekla>	yep
Apr 26 06:26:20 <MJR_>	hmmm...what if we put everything from bitcoin-assets into the blockchain?
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Apr 26 06:26:28 <pizzaman1337>	no, bad idea
Apr 26 06:26:31 <pizzaman1337>	blockchain is too big already
Apr 26 06:26:37 <MJR_>	how future generations will judge us...
Apr 26 06:26:44 <kakobrekla>	i was trying to add it like yesterday or something but i got distracted
Apr 26 06:26:44 <mircea_popescu>	in fact this chan is growing faster than the blockchain
Apr 26 06:26:46 <pizzaman1337>	we don't want everyone dropping their crap in the blockchain
Apr 26 06:27:15 <kakobrekla>	irc is to blame
Apr 26 06:27:30 <mircea_popescu>	scam.
Apr 26 06:27:36 <MJR_>	i think it'd be hilarious, kinda like putting up posters of miley cyrus in the smithsonian
Apr 26 06:27:48 <MJR_>	or doodling on the constitution
Apr 26 06:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ they've put seinfeld.
Apr 26 06:28:01 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 26 06:28:07 <mircea_popescu>	and in fairness, the blockchain isn't as bad as either miley cyrus or doodling.
Apr 26 06:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	we could tolerate it on our chan
Apr 26 06:28:26 <MJR_>	i just think that the whole idea of posterity is going away rather quickly
Apr 26 06:28:45 <MJR_>	we still have the illusion (some of us anyway) that the older generations were respectable
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Apr 26 06:28:55 <MJR_>	our children will prob not have that illusion at all
Apr 26 06:29:04 <kakobrekla>	loool
Apr 26 06:29:22 <kakobrekla>	MJR_ is worried.
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Apr 26 06:30:11 <MJR_>	srsly
Apr 26 06:30:27 <MJR_>	when your kids can google the things you tweeted as a teenager yourself...
Apr 26 06:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	o hey, twitter delivers! >> @PaulFish This is what a CEO / founder needs to focus on. This is it. http://t.co/KopwO3Udpy
Apr 26 06:30:40 <MJR_>	or even worse, if they see the pics you've posted of yourself
Apr 26 06:30:41 <mircea_popescu>	then people wonder why i have the time to irc and chase skirts.
Apr 26 06:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ i think all future children will have to learn to be comfortable with the fact that their mother's goodies are public record.
Apr 26 06:31:31 <MJR_>	yep
Apr 26 06:38:00 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny tho because unique among literate people americans have spent a century or maybe even two in the firm belief that their government is like... good etc. paying their taxes, trying to do what policeman says etc. << I would attribute that to the general populace being brainwashed into believing revolution is bad
Apr 26 06:38:13 <mircea_popescu>	are you kidding ?
Apr 26 06:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	it all started with revolution.
Apr 26 06:38:35 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much the only people who believe revolution is good, other than romanians and who knows who else.
Apr 26 06:38:36 <thestringpuller>	isn't that funny though?!?!?
Apr 26 06:38:39 <mircea_popescu>	kinda
Apr 26 06:39:18 <thestringpuller>	Sure we protest, and "get uppity", but in general you're taught all through childhood "do as your told", "don't question authority".
Apr 26 06:40:27 <thestringpuller>	Maybe if everyone were more poor? Or perhaps there was truly a need to revolt? American's are very apathetic, and actually seem to "enjoy" the lethargy that arises from it.
Apr 26 06:40:29 <mircea_popescu>	that's normal, good and common.
Apr 26 06:40:45 <mircea_popescu>	people should do what they're told and not question authority in most cases.
Apr 26 06:41:03 <thestringpuller>	People should not be lazy and educate themselves :P
Apr 26 06:41:08 <mircea_popescu>	that's also
Apr 26 06:41:24 <mircea_popescu>	but the society where people don't do what they're told and question authority a lot ends up something like france
Apr 26 06:41:40 <mircea_popescu>	can't get a fucking train on schedule, even if the schedule lists hours only, no minutes.
Apr 26 06:42:24 <thestringpuller>	Yea, or you get Detroit.
Apr 26 06:42:29 <thestringpuller>	Have you ever been to Detroit?
Apr 26 06:43:12 <MJR_>	i've been to detroit
Apr 26 06:43:31 <mircea_popescu>	i avoided it.
Apr 26 06:43:34 <thestringpuller>	I think mircea_popescu would very well enjoy Detroit.
Apr 26 06:43:54 <thestringpuller>	You may need quite a few goons, and maybe a couple of drones...
Apr 26 06:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	you think ?
Apr 26 06:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Apr 26 06:45:32 <thestringpuller>	Dude you survive in Bitcoin land which is like the virtual Detroit.
Apr 26 06:45:40 <thestringpuller>	Not only survive but thrive off it.
Apr 26 06:45:51 <thestringpuller>	Detroit is yours for the taking I'd think.
Apr 26 06:46:06 <thestringpuller>	You lived through the 90's Romanian revolution no?
Apr 26 06:46:11 <mircea_popescu>	yea...
Apr 26 06:46:35 <mircea_popescu>	what, i'm not affraid of "bad neighbourhoods" lol.
Apr 26 06:47:06 <mircea_popescu>	heck, i took teh coindelberg group through one here, it was funnay.
Apr 26 06:47:40 <thestringpuller>	is that like a pun?
Apr 26 06:48:11 <mircea_popescu>	which one ?
Apr 26 06:48:17 <thestringpuller>	coindelberg
Apr 26 06:48:18 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 26 06:48:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Apr 26 06:48:36 <mircea_popescu>	the endlessly hacked frenchie guy came up with it
Apr 26 06:48:47 <thestringpuller>	Aw. And you were rooting for him.
Apr 26 06:49:02 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Apr 26 06:49:11 <mircea_popescu>	he has the luck of the irishman in reverse.
Apr 26 06:50:08 <thestringpuller>	I wonder how they keep getting in...
Apr 26 06:51:01 <jurov>	*that* was bad neighborhood? i failed to notice. no smell, hens or pigs
Apr 26 06:51:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00069657 = 4.2491 BTC [+]
Apr 26 06:51:33 <thestringpuller>	jurov's been to detroit?
Apr 26 06:51:46 <jurov>	no, in bratislava
Apr 26 06:51:47 <mircea_popescu>	jurov didja notice the gagle of 20 kids threatening to knife each other ?
Apr 26 06:52:26 <jurov>	yes i noticed, just joking a bit
Apr 26 06:53:19 <mircea_popescu>	was kinda funny, they were all "you ciocksucker, i bet you don't have 10 euros on you" "dude, if i do you suck my cock ???" "fuck you, show me"
Apr 26 06:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	i was like, hey, cool, nobody here is worth less than a million or some shit like that, you people are arguing about who has ten euros.
Apr 26 06:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	inequality ftw.
Apr 26 06:54:16 <jurov>	srsly, we need them in -otc. complete with knives
Apr 26 06:56:24 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 26 06:56:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.98000, Best ask: 130.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 130.00000, 24 hour volume: 240970.80932549, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 159.66165, 24 hour vwap: 137.00610
Apr 26 06:57:03 <kakobrekla>	50 here we come!
Apr 26 06:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 26 06:57:23 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 125
Apr 26 06:57:26 <gribble>	There are currently 3217.5402 bitcoins demanded at or over 125.0 USD, worth 406095.036857 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0053 seconds
Apr 26 06:57:33 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 140
Apr 26 06:57:34 <gribble>	There are currently 7155.5675 bitcoins offered at or under 140.0 USD, worth 974221.764505 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.8159 seconds
Apr 26 06:58:06 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 120
Apr 26 06:58:06 <gribble>	There are currently 18144.077 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 2216699.76409 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.3246 seconds
Apr 26 06:59:42 <MJR_>	lol coindelberg?
Apr 26 07:02:37 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 26 07:02:54 <truffles>	top of the morning MJR
Apr 26 07:03:17 <jurov>	all hail our Lord deCrypto
Apr 26 07:03:34 <jurov>	http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/ (nsfw)
Apr 26 07:04:10 <jurov>	yay "This subreddit has been slow, as have my mining operations. I thought I'd freshen it up a bit!"
Apr 26 07:04:10 <mircea_popescu>	kinda old this neh ?
Apr 26 07:04:39 <jurov>	old but good
Apr 26 07:04:46 <truffles>	any penis pics on reddit?
Apr 26 07:05:48 <truffles>	oh its there
Apr 26 07:06:00 <truffles>	scary looking ones
Apr 26 07:06:07 <MJR_>	lol good morning truffles
Apr 26 07:06:48 <truffles>	one looks like an eel omg
Apr 26 07:07:39 <truffles>	this has go to be photo shop
Apr 26 07:07:42 <truffles>	should i link?
Apr 26 07:08:18 <truffles>	and its a redhead, spidey senses going off
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Apr 26 07:11:48 <truffles>	http://www.reddit.com/r/penis/comments/p7cme/not_mine_but_jesus_fuck/ top comment agrees with me
Apr 26 07:15:35 <jurov>	trrrrrrufflesss?
Apr 26 07:15:52 <truffles>	yes?
Apr 26 07:16:05 <jurov>	*wink*
Apr 26 07:16:10 <truffles>	we were getting nsfw in here so...
Apr 26 07:16:26 <jurov>	so you had to be helpful.
Apr 26 07:16:45 <MJR_>	lol, have you guys heard of rebecca martinson
Apr 26 07:16:49 <kakobrekla>	truffles your kids will see that.
Apr 26 07:16:57 <truffles>	i like to give a helping hand
Apr 26 07:17:15 <jurov>	i need help, too
Apr 26 07:17:16 <truffles>	well if i had kids penis wont be a bother
Apr 26 07:17:45 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188178.0
Apr 26 07:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	seems btc-e was actuyally hacked last week ?
Apr 26 07:18:04 <Chaang-Noi>	and we are back on topic
Apr 26 07:18:07 <mircea_popescu>	what, is truffles posting nudes ?
Apr 26 07:18:07 <MJR_>	http://gawker.com/5994974/the-most-deranged-sorority-girl-email-you-will-ever-read?popular=true
Apr 26 07:18:15 <MJR_>	this is why i love american colleges
Apr 26 07:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	[UPDATE 4/25: The sorority sister who authored the email has now resigned. Click here to read the sorority's official statement.]
Apr 26 07:19:07 <mircea_popescu>	see, this sorty of shit...
Apr 26 07:19:13 <truffles>	ofc mp wants nudes when a sea them are on the net
Apr 26 07:19:21 <mircea_popescu>	i would have made her chapter queen for a week, and everyone had to serve her in the nude.
Apr 26 07:20:15 <truffles>	"Last week, bitches got told. " wow
Apr 26 07:21:00 <MJR_>	she is awesome
Apr 26 07:21:14 <MJR_>	she basically is implying that the other girls should have put out more for social status
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Apr 26 07:21:48 <mircea_popescu>	yep
Apr 26 07:21:52 <mircea_popescu>	do you know a name or anything ?
Apr 26 07:21:56 <mircea_popescu>	i'm inviting her over.
Apr 26 07:22:09 <truffles>	ofc she will want to go to Romania
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Apr 26 07:24:35 <MJR_>	rebecca martinson
Apr 26 07:24:56 <MJR_>	my friend sent me that, i just asked one question...is she single
Apr 26 07:25:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.betcheslovethis.com/article/50-shades-of-just-okay
Apr 26 07:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	i dojn't give a flying fuck if she;s single. and tyvm.
Apr 26 07:26:59 <ThickAsThieves>	the email doesnt seem that controversial, i expected worse from the hype
Apr 26 07:27:14 <truffles>	lol
Apr 26 07:28:29 <truffles>	that letter is long tldr
Apr 26 07:28:32 <MJR_>	http://www.betcheslovethis.com/article/Themed-Parties
Apr 26 07:28:48 <MJR_>	this one is great, sororities hobos and hoes theme parties
Apr 26 07:28:57 <MJR_>	and people say america doesn't have a great educational system...
Apr 26 07:29:50 <kakobrekla>	some dumb parents right there
Apr 26 07:33:43 <MJR_>	lol, but...skateboards?
Apr 26 07:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999998 BTC [+]
Apr 26 07:38:58 <MJR_>	;;ud betch
Apr 26 07:38:58 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=betch | A betch is another way of saying "Bitch" except it sounds a million times better and makes you feel cool!
Apr 26 07:39:28 <truffles>	makes me think of Beth
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Apr 26 07:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.studentorg.umd.edu/
Apr 26 07:42:48 <mircea_popescu>	check that out lol
Apr 26 07:43:21 <Scrat>	are college sororities/fraternities only a murcan thing? or do other western countries have them
Apr 26 07:44:00 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much american
Apr 26 07:44:23 *	truffles thinks of all the free beer
Apr 26 07:44:59 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 26 07:45:02 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233241 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 614 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 8 hours, 58 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9956757.41042 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.9475
Apr 26 07:45:19 <kakobrekla>	so close to 10mil
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Apr 26 07:46:02 <truffles>	how many millioins is your share kakobrekla
Apr 26 07:46:19 <kakobrekla>	21
Apr 26 07:46:32 <truffles>	way over the stated amount
Apr 26 07:46:41 <truffles>	baller
Apr 26 07:46:42 <kakobrekla>	ya well its a scam!
Apr 26 07:47:10 <truffles>	bitcoin is a scam, heard it here 1st
Apr 26 07:47:43 <KRS1>	lol
Apr 26 07:54:43 <MJR_>	;;ud cuntpunt
Apr 26 07:54:44 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cunt-punt | if a bitch/ minion gets wise with you, you kick and or punch them in their pussy. gets em everytime. If you talk back to me one more time, ill give ya a cunt punt, ...
Apr 26 07:55:07 <truffles>	learning so much itc
Apr 26 07:57:23 <truffles>	MJR_ which minion is getting out of line?
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Apr 26 08:15:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 309 @ 0.00278789 = 0.8615 BTC [-]
Apr 26 08:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.28000001 = 0.56 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 08:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	"And how do you know that none of the content was written by people behind it?  (And even if it was not written, it was perfectly collected together.)The organization is 100% anonymous with bitcoin early developers and great programmers behind it. Satoshi Nakamoto, before he vanished, in the last interview in April said that he had "moved on to other things," how do you know that GBBG and their software is not that oth
Apr 26 08:20:16 <mircea_popescu>	er thing."
Apr 26 08:20:19 <mircea_popescu>	comedy gold.
Apr 26 08:23:16 <pgp2>	mp: what is that in reference to?
Apr 26 08:24:18 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154089.msg1949434#msg1949434
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Apr 26 08:27:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4754 @ 0.00069657 = 3.3115 BTC [+]
Apr 26 08:27:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15996 @ 0.00069481 = 11.1142 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 08:36:47 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1950787#msg1950787  friedcat update
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Apr 26 08:40:07 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks
Apr 26 08:40:32 <Chaang-Noi>	doubling in a week is pretty good
Apr 26 08:40:40 <Chaang-Noi>	wish it was more however
Apr 26 08:42:09 <Chaang-Noi>	138 again on btc, fucking all over the place
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Apr 26 08:42:15 <Chaang-Noi>	120 to 166 range is nuts...
Apr 26 08:42:31 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 120
Apr 26 08:42:33 <gribble>	There are currently 22399.07 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 2772336.48921 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
Apr 26 08:42:41 <Chaang-Noi>	;;asks 166
Apr 26 08:42:41 <gribble>	There are currently 33114.795 bitcoins offered at or under 166.0 USD, worth 5071504.2059 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.3661 seconds
Apr 26 08:43:12 <Chaang-Noi>	hmm
Apr 26 08:43:17 <Chaang-Noi>	;;bids 0
Apr 26 08:43:18 <gribble>	There are currently 33503993 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19202524.8757 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.8066 seconds
Apr 26 08:43:25 <Chaang-Noi>	down a bit...
Apr 26 08:47:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00070059 = 6.7607 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 08:51:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00278789 = 2.7879 BTC [-]
Apr 26 08:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.28 = 2.8 BTC [-]
Apr 26 08:54:29 <error4733>	;;next
Apr 26 08:54:30 <gribble>	\*AWAY UNTIL April 28\*  resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 4 days, 18 hours, 54 minutes, and 28 seconds ago
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Apr 26 09:16:12 <Cylta>	where I can read more about what exactly mean for example O.USD.C152N?
Apr 26 09:17:21 <ThickAsThieves>	oddly i dont think there is a good description faq for mpex options on the mpex website
Apr 26 09:17:35 <ThickAsThieves>	but i know full explanations exists in the forums
Apr 26 09:18:44 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta call struck at 152 expiring next month
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Apr 26 09:20:59 <error4733>	MP blog no ? for a good description
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Apr 26 09:26:53 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 i thought they're explained to death everywhere, forum, blog etc.
Apr 26 09:27:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1629 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 09:28:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00303 BTC [+]
Apr 26 09:28:33 <error4733>	yes but not on MPEX  #irony
Apr 26 09:30:19 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 26 09:32:03 <KRS-1>	Very funny mircea popescu..Can I have my anal room back please
Apr 26 09:32:24 <KRS-1>	why would you want bitcoin anal
Apr 26 09:32:43 <KRS-1>	I'm not trying to be an ass
Apr 26 09:33:05 <KRS-1>	Thats ok..I'll get it in the end
Apr 26 09:33:13 <truffles>	#bitcoin-anal exists heh
Apr 26 09:33:25 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?!
Apr 26 09:33:40 <KRS-1>	Says you registered my anal chat
Apr 26 09:34:06 <KRS-1>	Can I have my anal chat room back pls
Apr 26 09:34:13 <truffles>	i like that prank lol
Apr 26 09:34:17 <KRS-1>	lol
Apr 26 09:34:25 <mircea_popescu>	i have ?!
Apr 26 09:34:30 <KRS-1>	[Notice] -ChanServ- #bitcoin-anal is already registered to mircea_popescu.
Apr 26 09:34:37 <truffles>	rofl
Apr 26 09:34:42 <KRS-1>	Isnt anything sacred anymore
Apr 26 09:34:42 <pgp2>	lol
Apr 26 09:34:54 <mircea_popescu>	whoa
Apr 26 09:34:59 <mircea_popescu>	kickass.
Apr 26 09:35:31 <truffles>	he really likes ass
Apr 26 09:36:15 <KRS-1>	haha its a nice channel though
Apr 26 09:36:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.163 = 2.326 BTC [+]
Apr 26 09:37:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.1638 = 8.1466 BTC [+]
Apr 26 09:37:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1635 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 09:40:28 <MJR_>	you jacked #bitcoin-anal??
Apr 26 09:40:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1637 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 09:42:44 <Cylta>	If I understand correctly, asset "O.USD.C086T" is a call option from price of 86 usd per btc that will expire this month. Why people sell it, if price is already significally higher? and for what amount is this option?
Apr 26 09:43:24 <ThickAsThieves>	Cylta, you need to wait until new options are created tonight/tomorrow
Apr 26 09:43:33 <ThickAsThieves>	current prices are "glitched"
Apr 26 09:43:44 <ThickAsThieves>	(not actually quoting anyone)
Apr 26 09:43:57 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta you understand how options work, do you ?
Apr 26 09:44:16 <ThickAsThieves>	he was looking for a full guide earlier
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Apr 26 09:44:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont have the link saved tho
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Apr 26 09:44:59 <ThickAsThieves>	you should post that shit at mpex.com
Apr 26 09:45:02 <ThickAsThieves>	.co*
Apr 26 09:45:24 <Cylta>	mircea_popescu: I did not expect, that you can buy\sell options with different price than current price. that's looks strange for me.
Apr 26 09:46:35 <error4733>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-btc-usd-options-denomination-change/
Apr 26 09:46:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1637 BTC [+]
Apr 26 09:47:23 <error4733>	http://daytrading.about.com/od/daytradingglossary/g/OptionsCallPut.htm
Apr 26 09:47:59 <Cylta>	error4733: thanks!
Apr 26 09:48:20 <ThickAsThieves>	neither of those links will help you enough
Apr 26 09:48:21 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.0
Apr 26 09:48:24 <error4733>	the price is not different, it's a like a bet !
Apr 26 09:48:25 <mircea_popescu>	prolly should start there.
Apr 26 09:48:38 <ThickAsThieves>	thats the good one!
Apr 26 09:49:15 <ThickAsThieves>	would you consider adding that link to the mpex faq?
Apr 26 09:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	well the idea kinda is that the mpex faq is about mpex, and people should be learning about options other places.
Apr 26 09:50:47 <deadweasel>	$acg
Apr 26 09:50:51 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 26 09:50:53 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 135.85
Apr 26 09:51:37 <deadweasel>	crap.  hey mp, does the bot come online to buy back my calls at a fraction of the price I bought them for?
Apr 26 09:52:07 <ThickAsThieves>	asking mp for something = always asking too much
Apr 26 09:52:20 <deadweasel>	answers are usually rec'd.
Apr 26 09:52:26 <deadweasel>	which is something.
Apr 26 09:52:34 <ThickAsThieves>	"for"
Apr 26 09:52:59 <ThickAsThieves>	he will speak to you, just not act for you
Apr 26 09:53:02 <deadweasel>	we'll see.
Apr 26 09:53:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1637 BTC [+]
Apr 26 09:53:11 <deadweasel>	all i want is an answer
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Apr 26 09:53:31 <deadweasel>	unless you want to buy some calls at 215 ThickAsThieves !  :
Apr 26 09:53:36 <deadweasel>	:D
Apr 26 09:54:01 <ThickAsThieves>	already burdened with Put at 89
Apr 26 09:54:05 <ThickAsThieves>	Puts*
Apr 26 09:54:25 <deadweasel>	ouchie, should exercised them demons...  i did the avg ever come down that far?
Apr 26 09:54:30 <ThickAsThieves>	and calls the mysteriously excercised at 0
Apr 26 09:54:33 <deadweasel>	or was the 50 bounce too quick?
Apr 26 09:54:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000641 = 0.0962 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:54:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00064 = 0.064 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:55:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00983 = 0.0492 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:55:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00983 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:55:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.00982 = 0.0786 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:55:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.000639 = 0.0058 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:55:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.00981 = 0.1472 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:55:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000635 = 0.0191 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:56:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000631 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:57:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00281 = 0.0843 BTC [+]
Apr 26 09:57:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00281 BTC [+]
Apr 26 09:57:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 97 @ 0.0028 = 0.2716 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:57:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0028 BTC [-]
Apr 26 09:57:40 <ThickAsThieves>	my MPOE PT shares seem to be being held hostage by DeadTerra, who is disinclined to trasnfer them to Jurov for me.
Apr 26 09:58:18 <deadweasel>	lol, i sold EVERYTHING. I don't want to hold of any of that crap right now.
Apr 26 09:58:23 <jurov>	did he said as much? or is he just silent?
Apr 26 09:58:27 <ThickAsThieves>	silent
Apr 26 09:58:31 <ThickAsThieves>	after several messages
Apr 26 09:58:38 <ThickAsThieves>	and sign-ons by him
Apr 26 09:58:42 <ThickAsThieves>	in forum
Apr 26 09:59:33 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe he's busy playing Starcraft or sumth
Apr 26 09:59:59 <kakobrekla>	i wouldnt trust a guy who plays xbox
Apr 26 10:00:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.1638 = 3.4914 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:00:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1649 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:00:44 <ThickAsThieves>	AM is gonna rally again
Apr 26 10:00:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.165 = 11.65 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:00:59 <ThickAsThieves>	friedcat confirmed 15TH will be online within a week
Apr 26 10:01:46 <mircea_popescu>	ok so who wants to or knows anyone wanting to model tits for a new project of mine ?
Apr 26 10:02:12 <ThickAsThieves>	MPOE-PR seems to be equipped
Apr 26 10:02:58 <mircea_popescu>	im trying to spread bitcoin incomes to poor girls.
Apr 26 10:03:03 <mircea_popescu>	she ain't poor.
Apr 26 10:03:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.01629 = 0.4887 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:03:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000679 = 0.1019 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:05:13 <ThickAsThieves>	Maybe reddit wants to help
Apr 26 10:05:22 <Cylta>	mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin ? i think many of them may help you
Apr 26 10:05:33 <KRS-1>	I'm a poor girls.
Apr 26 10:05:41 <mircea_popescu>	a ty
Apr 26 10:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	KRS-1 you female ?
Apr 26 10:05:52 <KRS-1>	i can be
Apr 26 10:06:06 <KRS-1>	how much btc we talkin here
Apr 26 10:06:12 <mircea_popescu>	talk to goat, i don't do ladyboiz
Apr 26 10:06:21 <KRS-1>	lulz
Apr 26 10:06:50 <KRS-1>	ok i'll settle for ltc ...?
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Apr 26 10:06:59 <KRS-1>	nmc?
Apr 26 10:07:13 <Cylta>	KRS-1: may be xrp =)
Apr 26 10:07:30 <KRS-1>	whats a xrp
Apr 26 10:08:00 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 26 10:08:03 <gribble>	There are currently 165183.38 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14103182.0003 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0086 seconds
Apr 26 10:08:12 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 26 10:08:13 <gribble>	There are currently 69668.083 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 11769976.7017 USD in total. | Data vintage: 9.4491 seconds
Apr 26 10:08:24 <Cylta>	KRS-1: premined, centrelised, low-value, with-no-future coin =)
Apr 26 10:08:33 <davout>	mircea_popescu: you could organize orgies in romania, get bitcoins spent, and poor girls richer
Apr 26 10:08:56 <mircea_popescu>	o look who's back
Apr 26 10:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	i think ima organise lockable cages webhosting first, frenchie :D
Apr 26 10:09:15 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 26 10:09:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 14 @ 0.41 = 5.74 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:09:20 <davout>	mircea_popescu: where do i sign?
Apr 26 10:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	ovh.com/suckers-apply-here
Apr 26 10:10:00 <davout>	yeah well
Apr 26 10:10:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1978 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:10:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1979 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:10:47 <mircea_popescu>	so how's paris ?
Apr 26 10:10:57 <davout>	being hit by the very thing you were discussing a couple of hours ago on #bitcoin-assets OH THE IRONY
Apr 26 10:11:02 <davout>	dirty as usual
Apr 26 10:11:10 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 26 10:11:14 <MJR_>	hi davout
Apr 26 10:11:23 <davout>	MJR_: hello
Apr 26 10:11:42 <MJR_>	whats new
Apr 26 10:11:47 <KRS-1>	whats up MJR-
Apr 26 10:12:45 <davout>	MJR_: well. https://bitcoin-central.net pretty much sums it all up
Apr 26 10:12:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1979 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:13:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.198 = 14.376 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:14:11 <mircea_popescu>	i do think the idea to reaudit the entire thing leisurely is best.
Apr 26 10:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	who came up with it ?
Apr 26 10:15:29 <davout>	mircea_popescu: the idea of re-auditing ?
Apr 26 10:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	you know, take service down, check everything, no rush
Apr 26 10:15:45 <davout>	i did
Apr 26 10:15:51 <mircea_popescu>	good call.
Apr 26 10:16:26 <davout>	my intelligence is limited, but i do have enough to see when taking a step back is needed
Apr 26 10:16:30 <davout>	:-)
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Apr 26 10:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;getrating davout
Apr 26 10:18:30 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User davout, rated since Thu Jan 27 14:22:24 2011. Cumulative rating 14, from 4 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=davout
Apr 26 10:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188353.0 here we go
Apr 26 10:19:57 <jurov>	replied
Apr 26 10:21:11 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 26 10:21:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.003071 = 0.0154 BTC [-]
Apr 26 10:21:22 <MJR_>	how much resemblance necessary?
Apr 26 10:21:26 <jurov>	but dunno how many topless models frequent irc.. maybe usagi will volunteer?
Apr 26 10:21:38 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1950361#msg1950361
Apr 26 10:21:43 <MJR_>	lol yeah
Apr 26 10:22:00 <kakobrekla>	also scroll up wtf?
Apr 26 10:22:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00307 = 0.0246 BTC [-]
Apr 26 10:22:21 <kakobrekla>	who is the attention whore now
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Apr 26 10:22:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17603 BTC [-]
Apr 26 10:23:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00981 = 0.0589 BTC [-]
Apr 26 10:23:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.0098 = 0.0392 BTC [-]
Apr 26 10:23:34 <ThickAsThieves>	nice pic, rivals even MP's pics
Apr 26 10:23:44 <jurov>	My burn rate is currently about $200,000 per month if I continue at this level
Apr 26 10:23:57 <jurov>	mpoe-pr should comment how much women if mp's burn rate
Apr 26 10:24:02 <jurov>	*is
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Apr 26 10:25:37 <kakobrekla>	omg that thread
Apr 26 10:25:48 <kakobrekla>	it continiues into total retarded noobishness
Apr 26 10:25:50 <bitcoin_lady>	Hello :p
Apr 26 10:25:59 <mircea_popescu>	heya bitcoin_lady
Apr 26 10:26:03 <j0w>	:)
Apr 26 10:26:12 <ThickAsThieves>	this should be fun
Apr 26 10:26:30 <kakobrekla>	it it apropriate to say "tits or gtfo" ?
Apr 26 10:27:05 <bitcoin_lady>	This is not /b/, faggot.
Apr 26 10:27:17 <kakobrekla>	its a meta question, lady.
Apr 26 10:27:35 <mircea_popescu>	haha cool.
Apr 26 10:27:48 <mircea_popescu>	so this rpietila guy is trying to be me two years later basically ?
Apr 26 10:27:59 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin_lady to read your private messages click on the tab
Apr 26 10:28:13 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu i think he is a liar ... saying he was 'around' first bubbl
Apr 26 10:28:14 <kakobrekla>	e
Apr 26 10:28:27 <mircea_popescu>	ya well.
Apr 26 10:28:33 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Apr 26 10:28:36 <mircea_popescu>	people love pumping themselves up for w/e reason.
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Apr 26 10:30:09 <kakobrekla>	i mean the guy sent 13 btc to some other guy
Apr 26 10:30:12 <kakobrekla>	to prove he is rich
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Apr 26 10:30:16 <kakobrekla>	that only proves he is an idiot
Apr 26 10:30:20 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much.
Apr 26 10:30:36 <error4733>	?
Apr 26 10:30:45 <error4733>	i check the address on blockchain
Apr 26 10:30:54 <error4733>	he didnt sent
Apr 26 10:31:08 <kakobrekla>	apparently was internal tx of easywallet
Apr 26 10:31:16 <kakobrekla>	i mean its that or he has two accounts
Apr 26 10:31:19 <kakobrekla>	and is self trolling
Apr 26 10:31:21 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 26 10:31:22 <kakobrekla>	and so incapable
Apr 26 10:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	what idiot.
Apr 26 10:31:30 <error4733>	self trolling imo
Apr 26 10:31:30 <kakobrekla>	that he doesnt even do blockchain tx
Apr 26 10:31:34 <mircea_popescu>	somebody drop a link to mpex's public addy, see what he says
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Apr 26 10:37:51 <Cylta>	why people sell options above 1btc? looks like profit may not break the edge of 1btc per option.
Apr 26 10:38:07 <Cylta>	at lest for calls
Apr 26 10:38:57 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta the bot is a little crazy currently.
Apr 26 10:39:03 <mircea_popescu>	you can sell them for whatever you want tho.
Apr 26 10:39:53 <Cylta>	but by math, any calls that are sold for more, than 1 btc is just waiting of buyers money :P kind of math exam?
Apr 26 10:40:36 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobrekla that guy.. wtf was he thinking?
Apr 26 10:40:45 <kakobrekla>	he wasnt
Apr 26 10:40:50 <kakobrekla>	and isnt
Apr 26 10:40:50 <Chaang-Noi>	you know he has a party or gathering or something in finland?
Apr 26 10:40:51 <kakobrekla>	and wont be
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Apr 26 10:41:05 <Chaang-Noi>	he asked me to go, and then asked for btc :/
Apr 26 10:41:13 <kakobrekla>	omg
Apr 26 10:41:18 <kakobrekla>	how much
Apr 26 10:41:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know, it goes up the longer i wait. but i guess there is hotel or something involved
Apr 26 10:41:46 <Chaang-Noi>	but there are no details that i can find
Apr 26 10:42:11 <Chaang-Noi>	im not going so i just sorta ignored it but then i saw this and was like wtf??
Apr 26 10:42:16 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 26 10:42:38 <kakobrekla>	well this is bitcoin, everyone and their sister is the biggest expert
Apr 26 10:42:50 <jurov>	and their dog
Apr 26 10:43:09 <jurov>	yes, this is a dog.
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Apr 26 10:44:25 <Chaang-Noi>	kako i cant tell if he is some silver hot shot invester who made money in the run up and now did well in btc in the last 4 months or is just a full scammer
Apr 26 10:44:50 <Chaang-Noi>	btw is he claiming to have 2.4k btc or 24k btc?
Apr 26 10:44:52 <truffles>	u jelly?
Apr 26 10:45:05 <kakobrekla>	i dont know
Apr 26 10:45:10 <kakobrekla>	he was buying at ~100
Apr 26 10:45:12 <jurov>	2.4k mbtc
Apr 26 10:45:18 <Chaang-Noi>	no i did very well in silver and then i did very well in btc/ltc and asicminer
Apr 26 10:45:20 <jurov>	he's givind errythign in mbtc
Apr 26 10:45:29 <kakobrekla>	yes retarded
Apr 26 10:45:32 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah buying at over 100 is not something id brag about
Apr 26 10:45:40 <truffles>	new money gets the stern look from everyone huh
Apr 26 10:45:56 <Chaang-Noi>	we are not even sure if he has money or is just a troll
Apr 26 10:46:16 <Chaang-Noi>	he tried to prove he had money by moving 13 btc and it never showed up on the block chain....
Apr 26 10:46:40 <Chaang-Noi>	he might not have any btc
Apr 26 10:46:45 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Apr 26 10:47:36 <kakobrekla>	strange he is not aware that he cant sign an addy
Apr 26 10:47:44 <kakobrekla>	i mean
Apr 26 10:47:51 <kakobrekla>	sign something with priv key of an addy
Apr 26 10:48:19 <Chaang-Noi>	he sent from a fucking web wallet
Apr 26 10:48:22 <Troic_>	perhaps his web wallet, nm says it all
Apr 26 10:48:42 <kakobrekla>	you can sign from blockchain.info wallet
Apr 26 10:48:49 <Chaang-Noi>	who the fuck uses a web wallet?   i understand maybe the troll had one but a guy with 24k or 2.4k lol
Apr 26 10:49:06 <kakobrekla>	o looky
Apr 26 10:49:07 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188304.0
Apr 26 10:49:12 <Chaang-Noi>	what is easywallet? iv never used it
Apr 26 10:49:16 <kakobrekla>	it must have rained recently
Apr 26 10:49:46 <kakobrekla>	"its time to make a change" cause you defo wont be "making a bank"
Apr 26 10:50:59 <truffles>	new channel for me
Apr 26 10:51:42 <truffles>	so many people in here
Apr 26 10:51:44 <truffles>	its buzzin
Apr 26 10:52:46 <deadweasel>	http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425
Apr 26 10:52:58 <truffles>	slow pony?
Apr 26 10:53:11 <truffles>	hi
Apr 26 10:53:21 <deadweasel>	howdy truf
Apr 26 10:53:44 <truffles>	are your panties in a bunch about new money too?
Apr 26 10:54:11 <Chaang-Noi>	what happened to tiberslav?
Apr 26 10:54:15 <deadweasel>	i was just impressed that rolling stone changed their position.  my panties are in the laundry.
Apr 26 10:54:41 <truffles>	chaang he's in -offtopic
Apr 26 10:54:59 <deadweasel>	he's nowhere with /ignore!
Apr 26 10:55:05 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187469.0
Apr 26 10:55:06 <kakobrekla>	yes
Apr 26 10:55:11 <truffles>	ignore is for pussies
Apr 26 10:55:13 <kakobrekla>	i think they are that retarded.
Apr 26 10:55:26 <truffles>	toughen up
Apr 26 10:57:40 <Chaang-Noi>	1 btc = 1000 nBTC?
Apr 26 10:57:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.198 = 2.396 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:57:43 <Chaang-Noi>	mBTC?
Apr 26 10:57:52 <Cylta>	Chaang-Noi: mBTC
Apr 26 10:58:03 <Cylta>	Chaang-Noi: 1 btc = 1 000 000 nBTC
Apr 26 10:58:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.198 = 3.594 BTC [+]
Apr 26 10:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	<Chaang-Noi> you know he has a party or gathering or something in finland? <<< Ahahahah
Apr 26 10:58:23 <Cylta>	oh, no.. 1 btc = 1 000 mBTC = 1 000 000 uBTC = 1 000 000 000 nBTC
Apr 26 10:58:27 <Chaang-Noi>	mp did you not get the invite?
Apr 26 10:58:28 <mircea_popescu>	dude this is so ridiculous
Apr 26 10:58:36 <Chaang-Noi>	its like in 2 weeks as well
Apr 26 10:58:53 <ThickAsThieves>	i am fond of the ignore function
Apr 26 10:59:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.400001 = 1.2 BTC [-]
Apr 26 10:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	so did he hear about my thing and is trying to copy retardedly
Apr 26 10:59:10 <mircea_popescu>	or just natural retard ?
Apr 26 10:59:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.3 BTC [-]
Apr 26 10:59:52 <Chaang-Noi>	i want to post in public is pm to me but i dont want to violate privacy issues
Apr 26 11:00:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.198 = 3.594 BTC [+]
Apr 26 11:00:13 <truffles>	good call
Apr 26 11:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	kinda worth it for the lulz,
Apr 26 11:01:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 44 @ 0.00307 = 0.1351 BTC [-]
Apr 26 11:01:07 <mircea_popescu>	kinda not worth it dfor the drama
Apr 26 11:01:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 98 @ 0.00306 = 0.2999 BTC [-]
Apr 26 11:01:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 570 @ 0.00306 = 1.7442 BTC [-]
Apr 26 11:01:44 <Chaang-Noi>	he said he was going to make it public somewhere
Apr 26 11:01:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 130 @ 0.00301 = 0.3913 BTC [-]
Apr 26 11:01:50 <Chaang-Noi>	but i never saw that
Apr 26 11:01:52 <ThickAsThieves>	sharing pms violates privacy issues?
Apr 26 11:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4244 = 2.5464 BTC [-]
Apr 26 11:02:18 <ThickAsThieves>	violates trust only, i thought
Apr 26 11:02:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1999 = 2.3998 BTC [+]
Apr 26 11:02:23 <Chaang-Noi>	it is a personal invite to his party, i dont think i should share it word for word
Apr 26 11:02:36 <Chaang-Noi>	fine its a trust issue,
Apr 26 11:02:36 <ThickAsThieves>	oh i get it
Apr 26 11:02:45 <ThickAsThieves>	like it has personal info in it
Apr 26 11:03:00 <Chaang-Noi>	it has info he said he would make public
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Apr 26 11:03:06 <Chaang-Noi>	but i dont know where or if he has
Apr 26 11:04:04 <truffles>	post the stuff he said he would make public
Apr 26 11:04:13 <truffles>	with him saying so
Apr 26 11:04:31 <Chaang-Noi>	hey kako that thread is self moderated
Apr 26 11:04:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/xQE0Tgsl.jpg
Apr 26 11:04:38 <Chaang-Noi>	he is going to get rid of all of that
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Apr 26 11:04:45 <mircea_popescu>	ajhahaha dude bought a $5 ad in an ad paper
Apr 26 11:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	bwahahaha
Apr 26 11:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	dude never has so much been attempted with so little.
Apr 26 11:05:10 <Girlfawkesy>	I understand MP was looking for me?
Apr 26 11:05:22 <Chaang-Noi>	its a scam mp?
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Apr 26 11:05:49 <Girlfawkesy>	I dunno, I got a message on reddit
Apr 26 11:05:58 <Girlfawkesy>	not much info was given, and I was curious
Apr 26 11:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	Girlfawkesy hey there.
Apr 26 11:06:12 <jcpham>	what is #bitcoin-assets?
Apr 26 11:06:20 <jcpham>	bitcoin-asshats?
Apr 26 11:06:22 <imsaguy>	gypsy bazaar
Apr 26 11:06:26 <Troic_>	its a virtual lobby for mp ?
Apr 26 11:06:28 <Cylta>	jcpham: temple of mircea_popescu =)
Apr 26 11:06:30 <truffles>	recruitment grounds
Apr 26 11:06:36 <Technologov__>	what is traded on this bazaar ?
Apr 26 11:06:42 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy is alive ?!
Apr 26 11:06:44 <jcpham>	mp has a following?
Apr 26 11:06:44 <kakobrekla>	slaves
Apr 26 11:06:45 <Chaang-Noi>	tears
Apr 26 11:06:47 <jcpham>	sadness
Apr 26 11:06:49 <Scrat>	dreams
Apr 26 11:06:50 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: I was on a trip
Apr 26 11:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	Technologov__ its the place where bitcoin securities get discussed.
Apr 26 11:07:04 <Technologov__>	such as ?
Apr 26 11:07:09 <Technologov__>	Are there any ? ^^
Apr 26 11:07:11 <jcpham>	these guys in otc are selling an ASIC startup
Apr 26 11:07:13 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.mpoe
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Apr 26 11:07:14 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067399 / 0.00069538 / 0.000703 (298127 shares, 207.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00064141 / 0.0006982 / 0.00073891 (2649171 shares, 1,849.67 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068714 / 0.00073891 (10288649 shares, 7,069.75 BTC)
Apr 26 11:07:17 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 26 11:07:18 <jcpham>	telling people 200% returns
Apr 26 11:07:18 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00278789 / 0.00278789 / 0.00278789 (1309 shares, 3.65 BTC), 7D: 0.0023263 / 0.00295308 / 0.00349995 (32043 shares, 94.63 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00317689 / 0.00448 (1524631 shares, 4,843.59 BTC)
Apr 26 11:07:20 <mircea_popescu>	!ticker m s.bbet
Apr 26 11:07:21 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D:  /  /  ( shares,  BTC), 30D: 0.00050015 / 0.00177875 / 0.00201395 (137670 shares, 244.88 BTC)
Apr 26 11:07:22 <mircea_popescu>	etc.
Apr 26 11:07:23 <jcpham>	i told 'em to come here!
Apr 26 11:07:49 <imsaguy>	I think asicminer needs a passthrough on mpex
Apr 26 11:07:58 <imsaguy>	they're everywhere else
Apr 26 11:07:59 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Apr 26 11:08:04 <jcpham>	think asicminer needs to send me some blades
Apr 26 11:08:08 <imsaguy>	better yet
Apr 26 11:08:08 <jcpham>	so i can erupt some shit
Apr 26 11:08:14 <Chaang-Noi>	AM does not need it, mpex might need it
Apr 26 11:08:15 <imsaguy>	a passthrough for the passthroughs
Apr 26 11:08:19 <imsaguy>	make a synthetic
Apr 26 11:08:24 <jcpham>	we could proxy all the proxies
Apr 26 11:08:29 <imsaguy>	exactly
Apr 26 11:08:36 <mircea_popescu>	imsaguy the day they sign a contract.
Apr 26 11:08:40 <Chaang-Noi>	AM has all the funding they need, they dont need shit
Apr 26 11:08:42 <jcpham>	<insert fee>
Apr 26 11:08:53 <Chaang-Noi>	mp, friedcat will never sign a contract
Apr 26 11:08:56 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: AM needs to sign if its a passthrough?
Apr 26 11:09:04 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: can you read chinese?
Apr 26 11:09:12 <mircea_popescu>	they need to sign if its on mpex.
Apr 26 11:09:20 <Chaang-Noi>	they wont sign
Apr 26 11:09:32 <Chaang-Noi>	why take a risk with no gain?
Apr 26 11:09:33 <imsaguy>	those chinese won't sign anything unless its in chinese
Apr 26 11:09:40 *	mircea_popescu shrug.
Apr 26 11:09:49 <imsaguy>	stupid china
Apr 26 11:10:02 <ThickAsThieves>	its a moot point, like Chaang says, they don't need anything
Apr 26 11:10:04 <jcpham>	forget about asicminer
Apr 26 11:10:04 <mircea_popescu>	i can't be stonewalled. he won't sign, he won't exist pretty much.
Apr 26 11:10:11 <BTCOxygen>	imsaguy: lol
Apr 26 11:10:14 <jcpham>	get in on the ground floor of peachMining
Apr 26 11:10:21 <BTCOxygen>	imsaguy: Use google translate..
Apr 26 11:10:24 <BTCOxygen>	:P
Apr 26 11:10:27 <Chaang-Noi>	haha AM wont exist  :)  hahahah
Apr 26 11:10:30 <imsaguy>	jcpham, I'm goign to form my own asic company
Apr 26 11:10:37 <jcpham>	tell me more BTCOxygen
Apr 26 11:10:39 <Chaang-Noi>	10% of the network and soon to be 20%
Apr 26 11:10:39 <Technologov__>	There is an opportunity to Invest in Avalon ASIC chips.
Apr 26 11:10:40 <Technologov__>	Run by <BTCOxygen>.
Apr 26 11:10:44 <Technologov__>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0
Apr 26 11:10:50 <jcpham>	-otc is a terrible place to sell the idea
Apr 26 11:10:52 <imsaguy>	Chaang-Noi, they've been promising for a while
Apr 26 11:10:58 <imsaguy>	they're starting to sound like bfl
Apr 26 11:11:00 <Scrat>	imsaguy: cant help but misread your nick as imsogay :'(
Apr 26 11:11:00 <imsaguy>	always delays
Apr 26 11:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999997 BTC [+]
Apr 26 11:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999998 BTC [+]
Apr 26 11:11:08 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat for good reason.
Apr 26 11:11:14 <Chaang-Noi>	they ahve the chips, they dont have the power
Apr 26 11:11:14 <imsaguy>	Scrat: it happens to those with a reading level below the american fourth grade
Apr 26 11:11:16 <jcpham>	imsogay
Apr 26 11:11:19 <Chaang-Noi>	did you read his update today?
Apr 26 11:11:20 <jcpham>	so funny
Apr 26 11:11:25 <Chaang-Noi>	and anyway they have 7.7 TH
Apr 26 11:11:30 <Chaang-Noi>	that is much more than not existing
Apr 26 11:11:33 <imsaguy>	they're supposed to have like 12 TH
Apr 26 11:11:39 <imsaguy>	like 3 months ago
Apr 26 11:11:46 <ThickAsThieves>	^
Apr 26 11:11:55 <imsaguy>	how are they going to add 50 more if they can't get teh original going?
Apr 26 11:11:56 <ThickAsThieves>	they did, they just didnt share
Apr 26 11:12:03 <Chaang-Noi>	my point was, MP claim of them not existing if they are not on his eschagne is lulz
Apr 26 11:12:05 <imsaguy>	ThickAsThieves, most likely
Apr 26 11:12:13 <jcpham>	so 2.8TH/s for 3500BTC?
Apr 26 11:12:17 <imsaguy>	Chaang-Noi: he meant they won't exist on the exchange, derp
Apr 26 11:12:23 <jcpham>	;;genrate 28000000
Apr 26 11:12:25 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 28000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 1569.07933912 BTC per day and 65.3783057965 BTC per hour.
Apr 26 11:12:25 <Cylta>	Can I create options? and do I have to keep a balance to cover them? (and what do I have to do with puts, because they may cost ~inf in case if price will go to 0)?
Apr 26 11:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta yes, you can create options. you need to cover them.
Apr 26 11:12:39 <BTCOxygen>	jcpham: 3TH/s.
Apr 26 11:12:46 <Chaang-Noi>	imsaguy and that is what i told you
Apr 26 11:12:48 <BTCOxygen>	Will update OP in few hours.
Apr 26 11:12:53 <jcpham>	;;calc 3500*[ticker --avg]
Apr 26 11:12:54 <gribble>	476259.42
Apr 26 11:12:57 <Chaang-Noi>	they dont need anything.
Apr 26 11:13:07 <jcpham>	;;bc,stats
Apr 26 11:13:11 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233265 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 590 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 6 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9964156.51421 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.02995
Apr 26 11:13:15 <imsaguy>	THey need content shareholders.
Apr 26 11:13:20 <jcpham>	what's the timeline until deployed BTCOxygen
Apr 26 11:13:23 <imsaguy>	Well, technically, they don't even need that.
Apr 26 11:13:28 <ThickAsThieves>	they have content shareholders
Apr 26 11:13:30 <imsaguy>	At this point, asicminer has the shareholders by the balls.
Apr 26 11:13:32 <BTCOxygen>	jcpham: ~July.
Apr 26 11:13:35 <Scrat>	jcpham thats one zero too many
Apr 26 11:13:41 <jcpham>	;;genrate 2800000
Apr 26 11:13:42 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 2800000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 156.907933912 BTC per day and 6.53783057965 BTC per hour.
Apr 26 11:13:45 <jcpham>	?
Apr 26 11:13:56 <BTCOxygen>	;;generate 3000000
Apr 26 11:13:57 <gribble>	Error: "generate" is not a valid command.
Apr 26 11:14:05 <BTCOxygen>	;;genrate 3000000
Apr 26 11:14:07 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 3000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 168.115643477 BTC per day and 7.00481847819 BTC per hour.
Apr 26 11:14:33 <jcpham>	i'm betting we're way way over 20mil by july in diff
Apr 26 11:14:41 <mircea_popescu>	there's this crazy gbet about 10mn diff by end of month
Apr 26 11:14:45 <mircea_popescu>	im so curious which way it neds
Apr 26 11:14:53 <mircea_popescu>	like 10-20k riding on it
Apr 26 11:14:55 <jcpham>	;;genrate 3000000 20000000
Apr 26 11:14:56 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 3000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 20000000.0, is 75.4359774646 BTC per day and 3.14316572769 BTC per hour.
Apr 26 11:14:59 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu, which side are you on?
Apr 26 11:15:05 <mircea_popescu>	neither actually
Apr 26 11:15:09 <BTCOxygen>	jcpham: Even if difficulty hit 35mil you are still safe.
Apr 26 11:15:25 <jcpham>	;;calc 75*[ticker --avg]*30
Apr 26 11:15:25 <gribble>	306166.77
Apr 26 11:15:26 <imsaguy>	anyone saying a 10x diff hike is nbd is crazy
Apr 26 11:15:49 <jcpham>	at 20 mil difficulty who is selling the $306k in coins you mine in july
Apr 26 11:16:17 <BTCOxygen>	imsaguy: So you are saying that the difficulty will not hit 100m ?
Apr 26 11:16:21 <jcpham>	;;genrate 3000000 40000000
Apr 26 11:16:21 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 3000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 40000000.0, is 37.7179887323 BTC per day and 1.57158286385 BTC per hour.
Apr 26 11:16:27 <jcpham>	follow up question
Apr 26 11:16:34 <BTCOxygen>	jcpham: Profits will be paid out to investors in Bitcoins.
Apr 26 11:16:35 <jcpham>	;;calc 37*[ticker --avg]*30
Apr 26 11:16:35 <gribble>	151040.4084
Apr 26 11:16:37 <imsaguy>	I know difficuilty will hit much higher than that
Apr 26 11:16:47 <jcpham>	who sel the 150k in coins the new month at 40 mil
Apr 26 11:16:58 <jcpham>	it difficult for me to trust
Apr 26 11:17:13 <BTCOxygen>	jcpham: Why sell the coins ?
Apr 26 11:17:24 <jcpham>	ic
Apr 26 11:17:30 <jcpham>	you are right
Apr 26 11:17:45 <jcpham>	but you want btc upfront?
Apr 26 11:17:58 <BTCOxygen>	jcpham: Dividends will be paid in Bitcoins.
Apr 26 11:18:08 <BTCOxygen>	jcpham: Yes we need funding for the project.
Apr 26 11:18:20 <jcpham>	name "we"
Apr 26 11:18:23 <jcpham>	publicly
Apr 26 11:19:14 <BTCOxygen>	Our team
Apr 26 11:19:25 <BTCOxygen>	Our = I and my partner.
Apr 26 11:19:46 <imsaguy>	This interview is going well.
Apr 26 11:19:50 <imsaguy>	<.<
Apr 26 11:19:52 <BTCOxygen>	team = The people working for us.
Apr 26 11:19:52 <imsaguy>	>.>
Apr 26 11:19:56 <jcpham>	you should get used to saying "me John Q Whatever and my partner Steven X> whocares"
Apr 26 11:19:57 *	Technologov__ notes, that BTCOxygen has a mining pool.
Apr 26 11:20:00 <Scrat>	the chinese
Apr 26 11:20:10 <Scrat>	BTCOxygen: are they chinese?
Apr 26 11:20:17 <Technologov__>	http://btcoxygen.com/
Apr 26 11:20:25 <jcpham>	it's half mil in BTC up front
Apr 26 11:20:38 <imsaguy>	Technologov__: mining pool software is prepackaged these days. it doesn't take rocket science to run it.
Apr 26 11:20:59 <jcpham>	it's a great idea but you'll need more of a following
Apr 26 11:22:01 <BTCOxygen>	imsaguy: Yeah it does not need rocket science, Also we built our custom poolserver, Plus we have paid users without troubles.
Apr 26 11:22:11 <BTCOxygen>	Thats what brings the trust.
Apr 26 11:22:32 <BTCOxygen>	Paying users = trust.
Apr 26 11:22:42 <imsaguy>	you're right
Apr 26 11:22:45 <imsaguy>	I apologize
Apr 26 11:22:56 <truffles>	i dont like the name btcoxygen..
Apr 26 11:23:00 <imsaguy>	http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4868208981114978&pid=1.7
Apr 26 11:24:04 <BTCOxygen>	imsaguy: heh.
Apr 26 11:24:12 <BTCOxygen>	If anyone is interested please PM me.
Apr 26 11:24:50 <Technologov__>	jcpham, read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0
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Apr 26 11:26:16 <jcpham>	i'm not going to jump on the tread and be mean but like those guys are saying
Apr 26 11:26:32 <jcpham>	3500 btc upfront and AT BEST you'll generate 150BTC/monthly
Apr 26 11:26:38 <jcpham>	;;calc 3500/150
Apr 26 11:26:38 <gribble>	23.3333333333
Apr 26 11:26:42 <jcpham>	23 month roi
Apr 26 11:26:47 <jcpham>	assuming rainbows
Apr 26 11:26:55 <jcpham>	and there are no rainbows here
Apr 26 11:27:18 <Scrat>	it is 150 btc daily
Apr 26 11:27:25 <jcpham>	oh shit
Apr 26 11:27:32 <jcpham>	u right my maths is so bad
Apr 26 11:27:46 <jcpham>	where do i sign up? I have 1 btc to contrtibute
Apr 26 11:27:46 <Scrat>	but that doesn't make it anymore viable
Apr 26 11:27:54 <Scrat>	as you said it's a lot of dough upfront
Apr 26 11:28:00 <jcpham>	i'd like one share please.
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Apr 26 11:28:19 <jborkl>	You owe Topace 20 btc right?
Apr 26 11:28:34 <jborkl>	that you have not paid in how long
Apr 26 11:28:36 <jborkl>	?
Apr 26 11:29:16 <truffles>	public shaming ftw
Apr 26 11:29:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
Apr 26 11:30:47 <KRS-1>	wow price of btc looks higer for once on btc-e
Apr 26 11:31:18 <kakobrekla>	its not
Apr 26 11:31:19 <kakobrekla>	http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
Apr 26 11:31:20 <KRS-1>	my bad cached
Apr 26 11:31:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 17 @ 0.09749 = 1.6573 BTC [-]
Apr 26 11:31:30 <KRS-1>	you're right
Apr 26 11:31:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09749 BTC [-]
Apr 26 11:32:07 <BTCOxygen>	jcpham: Pm me if interested.
Apr 26 11:32:25 <BTCOxygen>	jborkl: I have been paing him from my profits.
Apr 26 11:32:47 <BTCOxygen>	;;calc 3500/(150 * 30)
Apr 26 11:32:47 <gribble>	0.777777777778
Apr 26 11:32:57 <BTCOxygen>	jcpham: ^^^
Apr 26 11:35:35 <BTCOxygen>	truffles: It sounds cool to me.
Apr 26 11:37:02 <truffles>	oprah already has oxygen network though
Apr 26 11:38:00 <truffles>	it would take getting used to
Apr 26 11:38:11 <truffles>	i just like bold names
Apr 26 11:39:30 <Chilca>	Nice site: http://www.satoshiplay.com/
Apr 26 11:40:05 <mircea_popescu>	Proudly powered by WordPress. GamePress ?
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Apr 26 11:44:51 <mircea_popescu>	"I think rpietila is very close to establishing cult of personality. What MP achieves with mental coercion, rpietila does using humour, and with ease."
Apr 26 11:45:02 <MJR_>	lol
Apr 26 11:45:06 <MJR_>	who is that guy?
Apr 26 11:45:09 <mircea_popescu>	no srlsy, the bitcointalk forum is like... seinfeld.
Apr 26 11:45:24 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ i totally have no idea.
Apr 26 11:45:43 <MJR_>	hmmm i think i am going to do an otc transaction
Apr 26 11:45:44 <mircea_popescu>	"some douche" is the best i got out of mpoe-pr
Apr 26 11:45:46 <MJR_>	or at least try
Apr 26 11:46:04 <Technologov__>	So what kind of assets are here?
Apr 26 11:46:14 <Technologov__>	Any good Bitcoins companies traded ?
Apr 26 11:46:19 <Technologov__>	start-ups ?
Apr 26 11:46:37 <truffles>	*crickets*
Apr 26 11:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 26 11:49:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 46 @ 0.0975 = 4.485 BTC [+]
Apr 26 11:50:50 <MJR_>	hmmm
Apr 26 11:50:59 <MJR_>	anyone here know of a quick cash option?
Apr 26 11:51:05 <jborkl>	I feel dumb for reading part of that reptelia thread
Apr 26 11:51:20 <jborkl>	reminds me why I do not read the forum
Apr 26 11:51:28 <mircea_popescu>	MJR_ what do you mean quick cash option ?
Apr 26 11:52:10 <cylta>	MJR_: pirate? but unfortunately he temporarly suspended his project =)
Apr 26 11:52:45 <BTCOxygen>	cylta: FYI, He permenently suspended his project.
Apr 26 11:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	stop spreading fud
Apr 26 11:52:56 <cylta>	BTCOxygen: <\irony>
Apr 26 11:53:31 <Technologov__>	who is "he" ?
Apr 26 11:53:35 <Technologov__>	And which project ?
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Apr 26 11:57:19 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136699181151.jpg check out the cat.
Apr 26 11:57:47 <inhies>	mircea_popescu: wat cat
Apr 26 11:58:17 <jurov>	yes a cat is there, zoom moar
Apr 26 11:58:36 <mircea_popescu>	jurov has immunity.
Apr 26 11:59:00 <inhies>	slightly intoxicated
Apr 26 11:59:02 <inhies>	i see no cat
Apr 26 11:59:07 <inhies>	not even in teh slightest bit
Apr 26 11:59:12 <Cylta>	I see two cats =)
Apr 26 11:59:15 <mircea_popescu>	maybe if upside down ?
Apr 26 11:59:22 <jurov>	two cats at 10 o'clock
Apr 26 11:59:26 <davout>	i smell pussy
Apr 26 11:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	so wash.
Apr 26 11:59:47 <davout>	:3
Apr 26 11:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 26 12:00:14 <inhies>	˙ɹǝʇʇǝq ɥɔnɯ s,ʇɐɥʇ ˙ʍou ʇı ǝǝs ı 'ʞo ɥɐ :nɔsǝdod‾ɐǝɔɹıɯ
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Apr 26 12:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Apr 26 12:00:58 <topace>	[11:27:57] <jborkl> You owe Topace 20 btc right?
Apr 26 12:01:04 <topace>	^ indeed he does
Apr 26 12:01:42 <inhies>	i read that as Tupac
Apr 26 12:01:44 <inhies>	=/
Apr 26 12:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	that's intentional
Apr 26 12:02:44 <mircea_popescu>	he's trying to start a personality cult
Apr 26 12:03:33 <truffles>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0 one of my favorite songs
Apr 26 12:03:52 <truffles>	thanks to CM Punk..
Apr 26 12:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4244 = 2.122 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 12:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.21 = 4.84 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 12:36:55 <hellohello>	can someone help me?))
Apr 26 12:37:35 <kakobrekla>	hello hellohello
Apr 26 12:39:56 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: pirateat40 was a scammer.
Apr 26 12:40:03 <BTCOxygen>	He ran away with the bitcoins.
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Apr 26 12:40:15 <Technologov__>	??? I never ever heard of him.
Apr 26 12:40:30 <Technologov__>	How an investor be a scammer ?
Apr 26 12:40:36 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: Yeah because he ran away long ago.
Apr 26 12:40:38 <Technologov__>	Either he invests or he does not.
Apr 26 12:40:45 <BTCOxygen>	He is not an Investor.
Apr 26 12:40:57 <BTCOxygen>	He was running the project.
Apr 26 12:41:05 <Technologov__>	then what ? Which project ?
Apr 26 12:41:43 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: He was paying a high interest rate to users who invested with him.
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Apr 26 12:41:55 <Technologov__>	aha. Typical ponzi.
Apr 26 12:42:03 <BTCOxygen>	yep.
Apr 26 12:42:30 <Technologov__>	There is no risk-free interest above government bonds. Really.
Apr 26 12:42:40 <Technologov__>	maybe 3% at most.
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Apr 26 12:42:53 <Technologov__>	As a small investor, I know it for sure.
Apr 26 12:43:12 <Technologov__>	Anything above that takes risk (and time).
Apr 26 12:43:18 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: FYI, He ran away with 100,000 Bitcoins.
Apr 26 12:43:23 <Technologov__>	YAY !
Apr 26 12:43:33 <Technologov__>	huge amount
Apr 26 12:43:33 <Cylta>	Technologov__: goverment bonds are not risk-free.
Apr 26 12:43:47 <BTCOxygen>	I don't want to do the math its painfull.
Apr 26 12:43:51 <Technologov__>	Cylta, why not ? gvmt can simply print money to return cash.
Apr 26 12:43:59 <Technologov__>	so it is risk-free.
Apr 26 12:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	heya hellohello
Apr 26 12:44:24 <Technologov__>	gvmt has no reason to default on own obligations.
Apr 26 12:44:31 <hellohello>	hi
Apr 26 12:44:36 <Cylta>	Technologov__: ahhh, in this meaning... yes. but money can default (or start to huperinflate)
Apr 26 12:44:37 <BTCOxygen>	;;calc 100000*[ticker --avg]
Apr 26 12:44:38 <gribble>	13572660.0
Apr 26 12:44:51 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: ^^^ Here is the math.
Apr 26 12:45:08 <Technologov__>	(only if they use someone else's money, like in Spain... those PIGS - pirtugal, italy, greece, spain)
Apr 26 12:45:19 <Cylta>	BTCOxygen: for such amount you should take 30d avg...
Apr 26 12:46:33 <BTCOxygen>	Also IIRC he converted bitcoins to USD as soon as he recieved them.
Apr 26 12:46:42 <BTCOxygen>	So hes not that rich.
Apr 26 12:47:02 <Technologov__>	converting 100,000 BTC takes time...
Apr 26 12:47:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1791 @ 0.00278789 = 4.9931 BTC [-]
Apr 26 12:47:34 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: He recieved in small chunks with a total of 100,000 before he ran away.
Apr 26 12:47:39 <mircea_popescu>	not if you're in the wot. took him all of a day oir w./e
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Apr 26 12:48:22 <jcpham>	http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/butterfly/
Apr 26 12:48:41 <jcpham>	2 more weeks!
Apr 26 12:48:43 <jcpham>	Meanwhile, Butterfly Labs is nowhere near full production capacity. The company says that its systems will continue to trickle out, with another 75 to 150 shipping in the next few weeks.
Apr 26 12:48:43 <jcpham>	In the meantime, if you have an questions about the Butterfly Labs machine, send us an email.
Apr 26 12:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	ahaha noway
Apr 26 12:49:10 <Cylta>	 jcpham: i think I heared it somewhere already...
Apr 26 12:49:26 <jcpham>	wired says fuck you
Apr 26 12:49:31 <jcpham>	if you think it's fake
Apr 26 12:49:36 <Technologov__>	BTCOxygen, and I have a fear about similar fate with Avalon ASICs
Apr 26 12:49:36 <Technologov__>	that's why I wanna wait until ppl will start receiving first batch units
Apr 26 12:49:36 <Technologov__>	+ dev boards
Apr 26 12:49:36 <Technologov__>	I _do_ believe the ASICs are real
Apr 26 12:49:44 <Technologov__>	because of this: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
Apr 26 12:49:55 <mircea_popescu>	so when it turens out to be actually fakwe
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Apr 26 12:49:59 <Technologov__>	But I highly doubt, that they will ship any.
Apr 26 12:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	i guess we all sue wired. this is good news.
Apr 26 12:50:16 <mircea_popescu>	conde nast actually has money, so...
Apr 26 12:50:20 <mircea_popescu>	i'm tickled pink over here.
Apr 26 12:50:34 <Cylta>	first batch of avalon already reached their customers, no?
Apr 26 12:50:41 <mircea_popescu>	yea.
Apr 26 12:50:44 <Technologov__>	More probably they will keep to themselves. (so their accepted BTC might be a scam)
Apr 26 12:51:13 <jcpham>	these guys at BFL are masters of hype
Apr 26 12:51:21 <jcpham>	i give them credit where it is due
Apr 26 12:51:37 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham its literally not that hard to do. get a journo dood to post nonsense ? 100 bux or w/e
Apr 26 12:51:42 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: There are 300 working units.
Apr 26 12:52:00 <jcpham>	but i mean like the company name is unassuming and disarming even "butterfly"
Apr 26 12:52:02 <jcpham>	wtf
Apr 26 12:52:06 <BTCOxygen>	I know 5-6 people personally who recieved their Avalon.
Apr 26 12:52:08 <jcpham>	it's all smoke and mirrors
Apr 26 12:52:25 <jcpham>	but they have produced a product
Apr 26 12:52:34 <Technologov__>	no. Only 3 developers IMO.
Apr 26 12:52:34 <Technologov__>	1st batch Avalons did *not* reach end-users (buyers).
Apr 26 12:52:35 <Technologov__>	jcpham, I doubt if Avalon are better
Apr 26 12:52:35 <Technologov__>	where? At their company ?
Apr 26 12:52:35 <jcpham>	so i digress for now until it collapses
Apr 26 12:52:36 <Technologov__>	Show me 20 users, whom actually _received_ any ASICs.
Apr 26 12:52:37 <Technologov__>	I could not find not on forums and not in chat
Apr 26 12:52:53 <Technologov__>	But this graph: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
Apr 26 12:53:04 <Technologov__>	Clearly says that ASICs are for real.
Apr 26 12:53:07 <jcpham>	i know of 3 actual avalons
Apr 26 12:53:16 <jcpham>	and the owners and i've spoken with them
Apr 26 12:53:20 <jcpham>	that's it
Apr 26 12:53:27 <jcpham>	my world is small though
Apr 26 12:53:59 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: I mean I know end-users.
Apr 26 12:54:12 <BTCOxygen>	There are 5 Avalons mining at my pool tho.
Apr 26 12:54:44 <Technologov__>	but the risk-reward is potentially so high, that it is worth the (limited) risk.
Apr 26 12:54:52 <BTCOxygen>	I think even imsaguy has an Avalon.
Apr 26 12:54:53 <Technologov__>	hmm, good to know.
Apr 26 12:55:25 <mircea_popescu>	BTCOxygen which pool is that again ?
Apr 26 12:55:33 <Technologov__>	BTCOxygen :)
Apr 26 12:55:48 <BTCOxygen>	http://btcoxygen.com
Apr 26 12:56:00 <mircea_popescu>	http://blockchain.info/pools ?
Apr 26 12:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	you telling me 5 avalons doesn't get you in the list ?
Apr 26 12:56:40 <BTCOxygen>	yes.
Apr 26 12:56:53 <mircea_popescu>	what's an avalon, 60gh ?
Apr 26 12:56:58 <jcpham>	300GH/s barely gets blocks
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Apr 26 12:57:02 <jcpham>	need moar
Apr 26 12:57:03 <BTCOxygen>	Also they don't list blocks properly.
Apr 26 12:57:17 <BTCOxygen>	500GH/s
Apr 26 12:57:33 <jcpham>	how is 500 GH/s regular blocks?
Apr 26 12:57:36 <jcpham>	daily?
Apr 26 12:57:46 <mircea_popescu>	mk, otherwise : Top Hashers 63gh/s
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Apr 26 12:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	seems there's one avalon there, and it does 80% or so of the pool ?
Apr 26 12:58:11 *	BTCOxygen goes to ckeck.
Apr 26 12:58:15 <BTCOxygen>	check*
Apr 26 12:58:21 <jcpham>	100-400GH/s was struggling to keep up a few months back
Apr 26 12:58:27 <jcpham>	from talking with pool ops
Apr 26 12:58:35 <jcpham>	be interesting to see how it paces now
Apr 26 12:59:18 <Technologov__>	Now, the hash rate:
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Apr 26 12:59:21 <Technologov__>	http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate
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Apr 26 12:59:49 <Technologov__>	If this graph would be flat, I would buy a GPU, and not believe into ASIC lore.
Apr 26 13:00:07 <Technologov__>	But due to huge spike, I believe, that ASICs actually exist.
Apr 26 13:00:22 <BTCOxygen>	mircea_popescu: I see 3 Avalons.
Apr 26 13:00:35 <mircea_popescu>	where ?
Apr 26 13:00:53 <BTCOxygen>	2 users pointing 1/3 Avalon.
Apr 26 13:00:59 <MJR_>	otc is too stressful
Apr 26 13:01:25 <KRS-1>	must be BFL
Apr 26 13:01:37 <error4733>	testing for 4 month
Apr 26 13:01:37 <KRS-1>	my friend has some of their fpga stuff
Apr 26 13:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	#1 	1510 	62186
Apr 26 13:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	#2 	1160 	14981
Apr 26 13:01:42 <mircea_popescu>	#3 	1210 	14272
Apr 26 13:01:47 <KRS-1>	nice hardware
Apr 26 13:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	seems to me only 1st can be an avalon. right ?
Apr 26 13:02:00 <BTCOxygen>	imsaguy: you here?
Apr 26 13:02:09 <jcpham>	he has one BTCOxygen
Apr 26 13:02:18 <BTCOxygen>	mircea_popescu: 1st is full Avalon.
Apr 26 13:02:35 <BTCOxygen>	The other 2 are 1/3 Avalon.
Apr 26 13:02:41 <jcpham>	imsogay owns an avalon
Apr 26 13:03:06 <Technologov__>	1/3 avalon ? hmm... 20 GH/s ?
Apr 26 13:03:07 <BTCOxygen>	Also there a many users posting about their Avalon on bitcointalk.
Apr 26 13:03:10 <Technologov__>	hmm...
Apr 26 13:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	1/3 avalon ?!
Apr 26 13:03:22 <imsaguy>	wut
Apr 26 13:03:23 <mircea_popescu>	who dioes this lol
Apr 26 13:03:39 <BTCOxygen>	Its a cgminer feature.
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Apr 26 13:03:53 <imsaguy>	load balancing of cgminer
Apr 26 13:04:02 <BTCOxygen>	imsaguy: Yeah.
Apr 26 13:04:14 <imsaguy>	why did you highlight me?
Apr 26 13:05:00 <mircea_popescu>	he would like to have your babies.
Apr 26 13:05:01 <BTCOxygen>	imsaguy: How many Avalon users do you know?
Apr 26 13:05:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.2 = 4.8 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 13:07:21 <imsaguy>	mircea_popescu: that is quite impossible
Apr 26 13:07:31 <imsaguy>	BTCOxygen: a few.
Apr 26 13:07:53 <jurov>	you have been accues of having onw yourself
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Apr 26 13:07:57 <jurov>	*accused
Apr 26 13:08:39 <ezdiy>	owning an asic is accusation now
Apr 26 13:08:39 <ezdiy>	hmm
Apr 26 13:08:54 <jcpham>	my bad
Apr 26 13:09:07 <jcpham>	i tell lies on the internet for fun
Apr 26 13:09:11 <jcpham>	no one owns asic
Apr 26 13:09:29 <Technologov__>	some ppl do. proof ?
Apr 26 13:09:43 <jcpham>	facedesk.
Apr 26 13:09:49 <Technologov__>	jcpham, http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate
Apr 26 13:09:57 <jcpham>	that's just a chart
Apr 26 13:10:03 <jcpham>	those numbers could be made up
Apr 26 13:10:06 <BTCOxygen>	Anyone who clains that there are no Avalons in the wild should read this whole thread.
Apr 26 13:10:07 <BTCOxygen>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137534.0
Apr 26 13:10:12 <ezdiy>	jurov: i think the rational explanation would be: give impression you want to get asics "out there so people dont lose trust" but in fact keep it private for as long as possible :)
Apr 26 13:10:18 <Technologov__>	going from 20 to 80 GH/s (in a MONTH !!!) can not be done via GPU.
Apr 26 13:10:29 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: yes.
Apr 26 13:10:30 <jcpham>	cpu mining botnet probably Technologov__
Apr 26 13:10:37 <BTCOxygen>	lol
Apr 26 13:10:41 <jcpham>	;)
Apr 26 13:10:46 <Technologov__>	jcpham, LOL ! How u tried mining on CPU ?
Apr 26 13:10:59 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: rpcminr :P
Apr 26 13:10:59 <jcpham>	nah pool won't accept a share for shit
Apr 26 13:11:03 <Technologov__>	it is 100 times slower than GPU and 100,000 times slower than ASIC
Apr 26 13:11:03 <jcpham>	hurrrrrr
Apr 26 13:11:13 <mircea_popescu>	the conspiracy is strong in here.
Apr 26 13:11:30 <Technologov__>	CPU mining will cost you x100 more in electricity than Bitcoins you produce...
Apr 26 13:11:54 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: +100 for having that knowledge.
Apr 26 13:11:55 <jcpham>	i bet it's confusing talking to me.
Apr 26 13:12:00 <jcpham>	i believe asic exists. yes.
Apr 26 13:12:27 <jurov>	but really, i see it like either many asic users want to stay secret, or they are chinese not on btctalk
Apr 26 13:12:29 <ezdiy>	seeing is believing
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Apr 26 13:12:38 <jurov>	or manufacturers mine themselves instead
Apr 26 13:12:52 <jcpham>	yeah the technology has made it like this
Apr 26 13:12:53 <Technologov__>	I would invest in ASIC company yes, but I dunno any.
Apr 26 13:13:04 <jcpham>	a device that makes thousands of bucks a day potentially is a security risk
Apr 26 13:13:06 <ezdiy>	jurov: even chinese guys reported selective vip treatment in regards to shipments from avalon
Apr 26 13:13:10 <Technologov__>	if BTCOxygen can find any, I might invest (@_@)
Apr 26 13:14:17 <jcpham>	http://mobile.news.com.au/national-news/killer-escaped-prison-after-being-issued-picture-of-master-key-to-all-locks
Apr 26 13:14:52 <ezdiy>	404
Apr 26 13:14:57 <ezdiy>	but title sounds interesting
Apr 26 13:15:03 <jcpham>	damnit
Apr 26 13:15:18 <jcpham>	http://mobile.news.com.au/national-news/killer-escaped-prison-after-being-issued-picture-of-master-key-to-all-locks/story-fncynjr2-1226629878591
Apr 26 13:15:24 <jcpham>	i cut off the numbers
Apr 26 13:15:41 <error4733>	saw that before !! some ppl make key with picture on flicker !!
Apr 26 13:15:55 <jcpham>	pretty dumb for a prison
Apr 26 13:16:23 <ezdiy>	maybe it was recruitment practice of mossad
Apr 26 13:16:25 <jcpham>	not sure a single master key falls under byzantine failover
Apr 26 13:16:38 <ezdiy>	you know, sieve through thousands of retarded criminals to find one smart enough
Apr 26 13:17:13 <jcpham>	perfect storm, a jeweler, a criminal, and a book
Apr 26 13:19:02 <BTCOxygen>	Technologov__: Oh I found a very interesting thread for you.
Apr 26 13:19:03 <BTCOxygen>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.0
Apr 26 13:19:06 <error4733>	oz story lol
Apr 26 13:20:20 <truffles>	oz is goat prison show
Apr 26 13:20:39 <BTCOxygen>	Here one user posted pictures of his Avalon.
Apr 26 13:20:40 <BTCOxygen>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.msg1699573#msg1699573
Apr 26 13:21:17 <BTCOxygen>	Anyone who is not sure if Avalon will ship should read this thread from page 1 to 11.
Apr 26 13:21:20 <BTCOxygen>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.0
Apr 26 13:21:25 <truffles>	"This bird has flown" such a boss
Apr 26 13:21:59 *	Technologov__ is reading...
Apr 26 13:22:12 <truffles>	knew theyd ship em, not rich enough to buy em
Apr 26 13:22:47 <Technologov__>	truffles, u can invest in Avalon here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0
Apr 26 13:24:12 <truffles>	dont have any bitcoins
Apr 26 13:24:30 <Technologov__>	I did not had either until a week ago ^^
Apr 26 13:24:39 <Technologov__>	I bought them via Western Union.
Apr 26 13:24:46 <Technologov__>	at #bitcoin-otc
Apr 26 13:25:10 <Technologov__>	because my $3000 Rig PC generates only 0.001 BTC per day.
Apr 26 13:25:20 <Technologov__>	(on dual GPUs)
Apr 26 13:25:48 <benkay>	just two?
Apr 26 13:25:52 <benkay>	;)
Apr 26 13:26:00 <Technologov__>	yeah, only 2.
Apr 26 13:26:08 <truffles>	those avalons remind me of this http://www.recipeapart.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/550x420xEniac-1.jpg.pagespeed.ic.BnzZ_VJDGR.jpg
Apr 26 13:26:49 <Technologov__>	and what ? I worked at Cisco Systems. There are *much* more cables there. I assure you.
Apr 26 13:27:35 <Technologov__>	any large company has a data-center those days.
Apr 26 13:27:44 <truffles>	knew ppl who just gushed over cisco systems..
Apr 26 13:27:53 <benkay>	ew gross owning your own data centers
Apr 26 13:28:02 <benkay>	great way to keep your sysadmin costs high
Apr 26 13:28:26 <benkay>	<-- cloud ops
Apr 26 13:28:59 <truffles>	say no to skynet?
Apr 26 13:29:27 <benkay>	meh
Apr 26 13:29:31 <benkay>	depends on how we code it
Apr 26 13:29:43 <benkay>	if we write it to minimize entropy, that would be cool
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Apr 26 13:32:02 <jcpham>	 You rated user diatonic on Mon Mar 11 14:26:46 2013, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Attempted and pre-paid for 24 hour mining lease. Unforseeable circumstances changed our plans..
Apr 26 13:32:06 <jcpham>	wtf
Apr 26 13:32:20 <jcpham>	my paste is just doing it's own thing today
Apr 26 13:33:01 <truffles>	copy paste fail?
Apr 26 13:33:08 <Scrat>	;;slap jcpham
Apr 26 13:33:10 *	gribble slaps jcpham with a radioactive GPG key
Apr 26 13:33:13 <jcpham>	mmmmhmmmm'
Apr 26 13:33:57 <Technologov__>	truffles, what I'm trying to say, is that you can invest even without having Bitcoins. Just must buy them.
Apr 26 13:34:25 <Technologov__>	And as any start-up investments, it brings you a certain amount of risk-reward.
Apr 26 13:34:52 <truffles>	if i were a rich person id have no problems investing ofc, alas im not
Apr 26 13:35:20 <Technologov__>	come on... it is all about mind-set. Don't needs to be rich ^^
Apr 26 13:35:43 <truffles>	isnt that why i would invest though
Apr 26 13:35:51 <truffles>	pile up my stacks
Apr 26 13:36:04 <Technologov__>	with what ?
Apr 26 13:36:09 <truffles>	stacks
Apr 26 13:36:18 <Technologov__>	That investment is a new company.
Apr 26 13:36:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 26 13:36:21 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.02000, Best ask: 137.21000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 137.02000, 24 hour volume: 255394.07450224, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 157.00000, 24 hour vwap: 135.59396
Apr 26 13:36:28 <Technologov__>	that will purchase and run Avalons for you
Apr 26 13:36:33 <Technologov__>	and send you proceeds
Apr 26 13:37:02 <truffles>	im not a potential investor sorry
Apr 26 13:37:10 <Technologov__>	so you don't need to waste time/lectricity/head-ache, customs bureaucracy and so forth
Apr 26 13:37:11 <truffles>	im here to discuss anything else if u wish
Apr 26 13:37:29 <Technologov__>	OK
Apr 26 13:37:47 <truffles>	even local dominatrix's if u wish
Apr 26 13:37:53 <Technologov__>	But isn't bitcoin-assets all about investing ?
Apr 26 13:38:01 <truffles>	not rly
Apr 26 13:38:07 <mircea_popescu>	investing != throwing money.
Apr 26 13:38:07 <truffles>	bunch of penis waving
Apr 26 13:38:17 <Technologov__>	about what ?
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Apr 26 13:38:38 <Technologov__>	mircea_popescu, no one is throwing money. Just taking risks.
Apr 26 13:38:49 <Technologov__>	which is not the same
Apr 26 13:38:53 <Cylta>	mircea_popescu: is it illigal to buy\sell mpex accounts?
Apr 26 13:38:59 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta nope.
Apr 26 13:39:13 <mircea_popescu>	dubious from a security pov maybe
Apr 26 13:40:16 <jcpham>	i love it when doms throw money at me
Apr 26 13:40:18 <Technologov__>	I can take risk, but I like to be paid for it.
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Apr 26 13:40:36 <Guest00001>	mp no way to change pgp key ?
Apr 26 13:40:43 <Guest00001>	if asked ?
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Apr 26 13:42:05 <truffles>	<jcpham> i love it when doms throw money at me >>> go on
Apr 26 13:42:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18 BTC [-]
Apr 26 13:42:15 <jcpham>	freak
Apr 26 13:42:22 <truffles>	haha
Apr 26 13:42:50 <mircea_popescu>	well you can register a new one and push to it.
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Apr 26 13:44:09 <error4733>	just 30 btc
Apr 26 13:44:13 <error4733>	:)
Apr 26 13:44:50 <truffles>	whats the fee supposed to cover cost wise?
Apr 26 13:45:58 <truffles>	30 seems extreme
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Apr 26 13:48:44 <benkay>	truffles, how much does a seat on the NYSE cost?
Apr 26 13:49:02 <benkay>	and truffles, how is that related to their operating costs?
Apr 26 13:49:16 <benkay>	rhetorical questions. too much for you to afford, and it's not.
Apr 26 13:49:23 <truffles>	lol
Apr 26 13:49:40 <truffles>	i guess one must pay for a seat ..
Apr 26 13:50:03 <truffles>	seeing that this is bitcoin i thought things would be a bit different
Apr 26 13:50:24 <benkay>	they are different
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Apr 26 13:50:29 <benkay>	you encrypt orders with gpg
Apr 26 13:50:39 <benkay>	print them out
Apr 26 13:50:44 <benkay>	fly them to romania on a carrier pigeon
Apr 26 13:51:29 <asciilifeform>	benkay: may as well ask how the cost of a NYC taxi medallion relates to the cost of the bureaucrat's pen that signs the paperwork.
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Apr 26 13:52:46 <mircea_popescu>	fucking unfair comparison of the century. i hate taxi medallions.
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Apr 26 13:52:59 <benkay>	except that the bureaucrat doesn't own the medallion organization, the mob does
Apr 26 13:53:09 <ezdiy>	truffles: vipcoin is confusing, but otherwise legit
Apr 26 13:53:12 <benkay>	but i think we're making the same points.
Apr 26 13:53:25 <ezdiy>	truffles: here is exact process how 30 bitcoins are turned into vipcoin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQBOw88ksXA
Apr 26 13:53:31 <mircea_popescu>	what's vipcoin even ?!
Apr 26 13:53:38 <benkay>	and yet vipcoin doesn't break top page google
Apr 26 13:54:01 <truffles>	sounded like a legit altcoin
Apr 26 13:54:03 <Technologov__>	BTCOxygen, ping
Apr 26 13:54:50 <truffles>	hope this song is good
Apr 26 13:54:58 <asciilifeform>	IMHO taxi medallions are a fair comparison. They, just as the MPEx fee, exist to keep the riffraff out.
Apr 26 13:55:24 <ezdiy>	truffles: seek 1:40 for teenage girl
Apr 26 13:55:44 <truffles>	assuming i like girls
Apr 26 13:55:50 <asciilifeform>	Were it not for medallions, NYC would probably look like Shanghai (rickshaws, etc.) I'm fine with that, but the rulers of the place evidently aren't
Apr 26 13:55:53 <ezdiy>	teenage is the important part
Apr 26 13:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform you're neglecting the entire geographical monopoly angle.
Apr 26 13:56:47 <asciilifeform>	MP has said, in essence, that he doesn't want MPEx to become a Shanghai crawling with the equivalent of rickshaws.
Apr 26 13:56:53 <asciilifeform>	If I understand correctly
Apr 26 13:57:09 <truffles>	exclusive club
Apr 26 13:57:15 <ezdiy>	yet payola is the realm of criminal forums
Apr 26 13:57:17 <ezdiy>	so which is it?
Apr 26 13:57:18 <ezdiy>	:)
Apr 26 13:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform i don't have a problem with rickshaws per se.
Apr 26 13:58:07 <mircea_popescu>	there's historically been small corps listed, it's not that.
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Apr 26 13:58:48 <truffles>	<ezdiy> i enjoyed it
Apr 26 13:59:04 <ezdiy>	well
Apr 26 13:59:06 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: we were talking about the 30 BTC user account fee, right? rather than listings
Apr 26 13:59:09 <ezdiy>	thats what vip is about
Apr 26 13:59:20 <ezdiy>	teenage girls, database management and company lunches
Apr 26 13:59:40 <truffles>	i just want the lunches
Apr 26 13:59:53 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform there's easy access for someone even with 0.1 btc. there's pts, there's brokers.
Apr 26 14:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.4248 = 5.0976 BTC [+]
Apr 26 14:00:08 <ezdiy>	truffles: no soup for you
Apr 26 14:00:29 <ezdiy>	i think mircea_popescu plays the soupnazi part well
Apr 26 14:00:57 <benkay>	no no no, the role of taxi medallions is to reduce the number of taxis on the street
Apr 26 14:01:00 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: that's like saying that "eTrade" with its $x/trade fees is a perfectly good alternative to a seat on the NYSE
Apr 26 14:01:22 <mircea_popescu>	well... would you say seat on nyse = london cab medallion ?
Apr 26 14:01:27 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy ty
Apr 26 14:01:33 <truffles>	 <ezdiy> truffles: no soup for you >> soup nazi!
Apr 26 14:01:40 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: sure
Apr 26 14:01:42 <benkay>	mircea_popescu would be only too happy to have more traders on his exchange, he just doesn't want to deal with the riffraff. he wants others to aggregate riffraff orders and place them on MPEx.
Apr 26 14:02:12 <benkay>	at least I think that's what he wants. open to correction on that count.
Apr 26 14:02:14 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform well then everything's everything and wtf.
Apr 26 14:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	benkay there was some pretty good discussion with pgp on this, lemme d ig
Apr 26 14:02:45 <benkay>	thanks mircea_popescu, feel free to pm it over
Apr 26 14:02:52 <truffles>	<mircea_popescu> wants more money and people to agree with whatever he says
Apr 26 14:02:55 <asciilifeform>	benkay: riffraff interested in automated trading are more or less written out of the script. MP runs his own house how he likes, I'm fine with that. But why not call things by their real names.
Apr 26 14:03:38 <benkay>	asciilifeform what's the real name, then? medallions are a competition inhibitor, the exchange seat fee is just an "are you serious" check
Apr 26 14:03:41 <benkay>	it's not even that much money
Apr 26 14:03:57 <ezdiy>	asciilifeform: real names are bad for pr
Apr 26 14:04:38 <truffles>	its working
Apr 26 14:04:47 <orkaa>	http://i.imgur.com/Haw7Qy4.jpg
Apr 26 14:04:48 <orkaa>	haha
Apr 26 14:05:11 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 26 14:05:12 <asciilifeform>	benkay: the bureaucrats (in practice) own NYC, and charge whatever the hell they want for taxi licenses. a bar can charge for entrance. nothing wrong with that. what I'm unclear on is why the MP fee is a different kind of animal.
Apr 26 14:05:21 <truffles>	omg what is that orkaa!!!
Apr 26 14:05:24 <ezdiy>	orkaa: +1 for underage, -1 not naked
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Apr 26 14:05:48 <ezdiy>	asciilifeform: thats how it works
Apr 26 14:05:54 <orkaa>	i saw this on tv some time ago, it's real :)
Apr 26 14:05:56 <ezdiy>	asciilifeform: in general its called vendor lock-in
Apr 26 14:06:26 <truffles>	orkaa add metzitzah b'peh and its complete
Apr 26 14:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform is there a way i can run a cab in london just for a day ?
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Apr 26 14:06:52 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I imagine you could buy a medallion and sell it the next day, if you wanted to
Apr 26 14:07:01 <asciilifeform>	just like an MPEx account
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Apr 26 14:08:03 <mircea_popescu>	can you actually sell those ?
Apr 26 14:08:13 <benkay>	probably
Apr 26 14:08:13 <mircea_popescu>	maybe the disagreement is borne out of me not understanding taxi medallions too well.
Apr 26 14:08:17 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: IDK about London, but in most places you can
Apr 26 14:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	afaik it's just this nonsense to keep people who would like to work off
Apr 26 14:08:31 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like a union
Apr 26 14:08:40 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: If I recall, most NYC drivers take out monstrous loans to buy medallions.
Apr 26 14:08:51 <benkay>	most don't even buy the medallions
Apr 26 14:08:54 <benkay>	others do
Apr 26 14:08:58 <benkay>	ibankers and whatnot
Apr 26 14:09:02 <mircea_popescu>	meh.
Apr 26 14:09:08 <ezdiy>	why people who dont understand basic market forces (if you have little competition, it makes sense to introduce artificial scarcity) want to trade on mpex?
Apr 26 14:09:27 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy that absolutely isn't the rationale.
Apr 26 14:09:42 <truffles>	back him into a corner here
Apr 26 14:09:45 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: occam is cutting his veins though :)
Apr 26 14:09:58 <mircea_popescu>	i know.
Apr 26 14:09:58 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: i'm not dismissing it, whatever the reason its totally legit
Apr 26 14:10:06 <mircea_popescu>	the problem with cheapo/clueless investors is that they follow trends
Apr 26 14:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	this induces huge volatility which then wrecks assets.
Apr 26 14:10:19 <asciilifeform>	ezdiy: I'm not clamouring to buy an MPEx account for a penny, just objecting to the notion that the fee is somehow different from taxi medallions
Apr 26 14:10:27 <mircea_popescu>	i still think it is.
Apr 26 14:10:42 <benkay>	I agree.
Apr 26 14:10:46 <benkay>	not all customers are good customers.
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Apr 26 14:11:08 <benkay>	and when money is involved as a core part of the business, many of your customers will in fact be bad customers without quality control.
Apr 26 14:11:09 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: you do that at the cost of huge spreads though
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Apr 26 14:11:23 <ezdiy>	as long people are content with those, well why not
Apr 26 14:11:30 <ezdiy>	your idea of rate limiting the market holds water
Apr 26 14:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	well the problem with the "as long as people are content" argument
Apr 26 14:12:04 <mircea_popescu>	is that it's how we ended up with shit on tv.
Apr 26 14:12:20 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: How would you personally explain the apparent lack of competition to MPEx? Is it simply the fact that no one else has the "reputation capital" ?
Apr 26 14:12:23 <mircea_popescu>	people have this incredible ability to "be content" with anything. frog in boiling water experiment if you know it.
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Apr 26 14:12:36 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: yup
Apr 26 14:12:40 <ezdiy>	boil em slow :)
Apr 26 14:12:40 <truffles>	reputation hhaha
Apr 26 14:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform it's a complicated web. no one has the competence, or the capital, or the reputation, or the connections, etc etc
Apr 26 14:12:55 <mircea_popescu>	they just feed into each other.
Apr 26 14:13:18 <asciilifeform>	truffles: I meant the banal fact that MPEx works as it says on the box, and none of the vaguely similar services proved to do the same
Apr 26 14:13:26 <jborkl>	Mp, has a stellar reputation. Unless you beleive asshole trolls and other people that are poor
Apr 26 14:13:55 <mircea_popescu>	i think people grossly misrepresent what all is involved.
Apr 26 14:14:55 <ezdiy>	clouds can be cleared up only if youre open about it
Apr 26 14:15:04 <ezdiy>	heck even bitcoinica eventually became opensource :)
Apr 26 14:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 26 14:15:39 <ezdiy>	so people are ok w/ bitfinex because its obvious what theyre dealing with
Apr 26 14:16:44 <ezdiy>	black boxes give room to a lot of speculation
Apr 26 14:16:46 <asciilifeform>	Ok, let's see if I understand: the 30 BTC is for keeping MPEx a market full of people who measure 1000 times "before cutting once." No trendoids, etc. Now let's say Warren Buffet (or somesuch) opens WBEx, charging 1 BTC.
Apr 26 14:16:51 <ezdiy>	as well as affiliate marketing schemes for vipcoin
Apr 26 14:16:53 <asciilifeform>	it fills up with trendoids
Apr 26 14:17:12 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform problem with your let's suppose is that it's nonsensical.
Apr 26 14:17:17 <mircea_popescu>	last thing he'd do is that.
Apr 26 14:17:28 <mircea_popescu>	he'd open a 1000 btc one first, he'd partner with me 2nd.
Apr 26 14:17:37 <asciilifeform>	ok, someone else with a bag full of BTC and a resonably good meatspace reputation, then.
Apr 26 14:17:57 <mircea_popescu>	but do you understand your own example ?
Apr 26 14:18:13 <mircea_popescu>	buffy is famous for having told his bh specialist
Apr 26 14:18:23 <mircea_popescu>	"if the next trade happens a year or so from now i'll be very happy"
Apr 26 14:19:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7051 = 3.4102 BTC [-]
Apr 26 14:19:07 <asciilifeform>	what I'm rather hazy on is how well MPEx would hold up against a "good enough" clone that meets the basic criterion of "not being an outright scam" (AFAIK none of the MPEx competitors have met this standard)
Apr 26 14:19:25 <ezdiy>	it holds pretty well
Apr 26 14:19:35 <truffles>	make em sweat
Apr 26 14:20:11 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform im not sure what the incentive is exactly. you'd finance a clone rather than buy shares because ... ?
Apr 26 14:20:14 <jborkl>	Wait, I trust MP - so who is this you are proposing? Just some random asshole with a website?
Apr 26 14:20:21 <mircea_popescu>	s.dice competition never materialised EXACTLY because s.dice listed.
Apr 26 14:20:28 <mircea_popescu>	once that happened it's impossible to finance a clone anymore.
Apr 26 14:20:49 <truffles>	impossible nice word
Apr 26 14:20:53 <asciilifeform>	jborkl: no, not a random arse, someone with a good reputation, hypothetically
Apr 26 14:20:58 <ezdiy>	people really underestimate network effects
Apr 26 14:20:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]
Apr 26 14:21:09 <jborkl>	there is no one with enough sense and enough money currently
Apr 26 14:21:18 <ezdiy>	sdice, mtgox and mpex are examples of such
Apr 26 14:21:22 <jborkl>	strike one and two
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Apr 26 14:21:42 <mircea_popescu>	so srsly asciilifeform, let's say your reputation is enoug, and you have 10k btc to burn.
Apr 26 14:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	you decide it has to burn in this space.
Apr 26 14:21:50 <asciilifeform>	jborkl: true, just as there is no semiconductor plant owner with the good sense to drop some of his pocket change on building a million ASIC miners and running them in his own mansion.
Apr 26 14:21:52 <ezdiy>	jborkl: competition eventually overcomes the network effect resistance
Apr 26 14:21:56 <ezdiy>	jborkl: inb4 bitvegas ipo
Apr 26 14:21:59 <mircea_popescu>	a. you buy s.mpoe shares b. you try and make a competitor.
Apr 26 14:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	which is your pick ?
Apr 26 14:22:55 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: By this logic Pepsi ought not to exist, they should just re-sell Coke?
Apr 26 14:23:05 <mircea_popescu>	they do.
Apr 26 14:23:10 <ezdiy>	they do? :)
Apr 26 14:23:14 <jborkl>	a shitty clone of it
Apr 26 14:23:20 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188177.0
Apr 26 14:23:42 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: how do i buy cola in kfc :)
Apr 26 14:24:24 <ezdiy>	what if bitvegas started kfc
Apr 26 14:24:29 <ezdiy>	and bundled their cola with it?
Apr 26 14:24:42 <ezdiy>	would it make sense to invest in mpex then?
Apr 26 14:24:54 <mircea_popescu>	im unsure wtf bitvegas is.
Apr 26 14:25:14 <mircea_popescu>	o the team fortress thing ?
Apr 26 14:25:20 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: :)
Apr 26 14:25:34 <ezdiy>	its easy to measure growth
Apr 26 14:25:38 <ezdiy>	where it is stalled and where it is not
Apr 26 14:25:42 <jborkl>	anyway, what time exactly do options expire MP?  in UTC?
Apr 26 14:25:54 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: there could be logical reasons for starting one's own "MPEx, with blackjack and hookers."  Say I want to use evil altchains. And, AFAIK MPEx shares are non-voting, so it isn't that I could buy enough of them to make MP do this deed.
Apr 26 14:26:06 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform now you're talking angles.
Apr 26 14:26:12 <mircea_popescu>	originally discussion was straight clone.
Apr 26 14:26:33 <mircea_popescu>	if you mean start a competitor with an angle, it all boils down to whether the angle a. actually helps you and b. is good enouigh to push you
Apr 26 14:26:49 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: copycats work perfectly good
Apr 26 14:26:56 <ezdiy>	be the underdog and wait for the uber dogs demise
Apr 26 14:27:01 <ezdiy>	lets see ... gblse?
Apr 26 14:27:02 <ezdiy>	:)
Apr 26 14:27:06 <truffles>	thats impossible
Apr 26 14:27:09 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: ok, let's stick to clones. Picture Bill Gates, a hypothetical BGEx with a 5 BTC fee.
Apr 26 14:27:23 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy again people underestimate what goes on in the background.
Apr 26 14:27:24 <ezdiy>	truffles: not by market forces, but by something stupid
Apr 26 14:27:41 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform and he's doing this on pgp ?
Apr 26 14:27:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7513 @ 0.00070108 = 5.2672 BTC [+]
Apr 26 14:27:54 <truffles>	was being silly :)
Apr 26 14:27:59 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: sure, I agree, this is a stretch of the imagination. but let's imagine.
Apr 26 14:28:11 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: yes, pgp.
Apr 26 14:28:33 <mircea_popescu>	ok this i wish to see.
Apr 26 14:28:36 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: AFAIK you don't have a monopoly on PGP
Apr 26 14:28:45 <ezdiy>	asciilifeform: you're wasting your time, btw
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Apr 26 14:28:47 <mircea_popescu>	so bill gates is making a mpex clone complete with pgp and everything.
Apr 26 14:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	+1000 points for me for being so cool. will any of the big people switch to him ? maybe so. maybe not.
Apr 26 14:29:12 <mircea_popescu>	i can probably exit to jpm for a billion at that point anyway.
Apr 26 14:29:20 <ezdiy>	mp stands, but might possibly fall, because mircea_popescu is uber consistent in everything
Apr 26 14:29:34 <ezdiy>	which also means you cant convince him by make believe arguments
Apr 26 14:29:37 <mircea_popescu>	at which poin tyhe deal becomes jpmpex vs bgex
Apr 26 14:29:42 <mircea_popescu>	and i gues jpmpex wins
Apr 26 14:29:47 <mircea_popescu>	i won't be there to see it likely, but anyway.
Apr 26 14:30:01 <ezdiy>	asciilifeform: the general term is jerk irl :)
Apr 26 14:30:15 <truffles>	 <ezdiy> i think he'll last a while, he has minions
Apr 26 14:30:21 <ezdiy>	yep
Apr 26 14:30:25 <ezdiy>	the bitch army is impressive
Apr 26 14:30:26 <ezdiy>	:)
Apr 26 14:30:28 <asciilifeform>	ezdiy: I think you misunderstand. I'm not trying to convince MP of anything in particular. Just playing out a thought experiment: what would happen if MPEx actually had competition.
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Apr 26 14:30:31 <ezdiy>	jurov: ohai!
Apr 26 14:30:36 <truffles>	yep im impressed
Apr 26 14:31:12 <kakobrekla>	rpietila: "I am currently running a 1.5 Class Bitcoin Supernode, and having a hard time to report on all things. This is a beta, our organisation is not perfect. I am arranging the supernode summit in Porvoo, Finland. The place where I am currently staying is Hotel Kämp, the best in Helsinki. My room"
Apr 26 14:31:25 <ezdiy>	truffles: rpietila took it from the other end
Apr 26 14:31:33 <ezdiy>	mp first build something tangible, then the bitch army
Apr 26 14:31:47 <asciilifeform>	kakobrekla: what on earth is a Bitcoin Supernode?
Apr 26 14:31:55 <kakobrekla>	yes!
Apr 26 14:31:55 <ezdiy>	rpietila is apparently starting with the bitch army and maybe turn out to be not elaborate troll and come up with something
Apr 26 14:32:07 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy it's kinda funny to compare "pic of mp with people" vs "pic of foreveralone btctalk dud"
Apr 26 14:32:15 <truffles>	do u know he put mircea_popescu on ignore right after we were going to "debate" something he posted our comments on his blog then i refused to subscribe, right around the time he paid people to troll SomthingAwful forums
Apr 26 14:32:18 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: indeed :)
Apr 26 14:32:27 <truffles>	he =mp
Apr 26 14:32:27 <kakobrekla>	rpietila had too much cocaine
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Apr 26 14:34:11 <ezdiy>	so much shame goat burned the cover
Apr 26 14:34:24 <ezdiy>	that thread was so full of gold
Apr 26 14:34:35 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 26 14:34:39 <truffles>	link?
Apr 26 14:34:50 <mircea_popescu>	goat gets confused in troll gold threads.
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Apr 26 14:35:31 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.0;all
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Apr 26 14:36:05 <truffles>	thanks kakobrekla
Apr 26 14:36:07 <ezdiy>	still
Apr 26 14:36:12 <ezdiy>	interesting phenomena
Apr 26 14:36:18 <ezdiy>	bitch armies, whiteknighting and all
Apr 26 14:36:26 <ezdiy>	because those are irrelevant
Apr 26 14:36:33 <kakobrekla>	i quote
Apr 26 14:36:34 <kakobrekla>	Think of this as a book, or at least as a quality blog, to be enjoyed with quality wine and cigars in candle light.
Apr 26 14:36:34 <ezdiy>	important is only network effect
Apr 26 14:36:43 <kakobrekla>	comedy central in that setting?
Apr 26 14:37:00 <ezdiy>	take mtgox, fe, everyone agrees their stuff is sub-par
Apr 26 14:37:08 <ezdiy>	no bitch army, everybody hates magicaltux's guts
Apr 26 14:37:13 <ezdiy>	yet its the biggest
Apr 26 14:37:44 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol candlelight and screen. sounds legit
Apr 26 14:37:56 <ezdiy>	kakobrekla: yup, thats how i understood it
Apr 26 14:38:11 <ezdiy>	i mean, the guy clearly stated to be not taken seriously
Apr 26 14:38:12 <ezdiy>	so hey
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Apr 26 14:38:13 <jcpham>	On the same day that federal investigators pleaded with the public for photos and videos that would help them identify the Boston Marathon bombers, the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI released a memo stating the “discreet use of cameras or video recorders” could be interpreted as a sign that a terrorist act is being planned.
Apr 26 14:38:22 <ezdiy>	and then gives free advice of mid-range silver vendor
Apr 26 14:38:28 <ezdiy>	i'm ok with that
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Apr 26 14:39:02 <kakobrekla>	oooo
Apr 26 14:39:03 <kakobrekla>	http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/13549021_uu.jpg
Apr 26 14:39:05 <kakobrekla>	this delivers
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Apr 26 14:39:21 <jcpham>	silver stackin
Apr 26 14:39:25 <kakobrekla>	imma gona print a shitload of qr codes
Apr 26 14:39:28 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 26 14:39:34 <kakobrekla>	stick it allover me
Apr 26 14:39:53 <jcpham>	i'll take pics of your qr codes and baby giraffe
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Apr 26 14:40:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4781 = 0.9562 BTC [+]
Apr 26 14:40:08 <jcpham>	oppulence
Apr 26 14:41:18 <truffles>	<ezdiy> important is only network effect >> i dunno hypocrisy is annoying
Apr 26 14:41:34 <ezdiy>	truffles: what do you mean?
Apr 26 14:42:01 <truffles>	one set of behavior is okay for some people and diff rules apply for others
Apr 26 14:42:33 *	ezdiy moves on a char for a bit
Apr 26 14:42:35 <ezdiy>	no, still nothing
Apr 26 14:43:12 <ezdiy>	truffles: world is full of hypocrisy
Apr 26 14:44:47 <truffles>	to be feigned a bit in "polite society" id hope :)
Apr 26 14:45:18 <ezdiy>	well, there is that thing
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Apr 26 14:47:09 <truffles>	i have no quality wine and cigars in candle light maybe i should stop reading
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Apr 26 14:47:27 <ColdHardMetal>	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApraDvGtZTsbdGxTZGxreXhHUTRCM0pmakNpU3NkQmc#gid=0
Apr 26 14:47:38 <ezdiy>	truffles: being a bitch means you strongly defend your cult figure while youre subject ot heir will
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Apr 26 14:48:03 <mircea_popescu>	i thought it just meant being annoying.
Apr 26 14:48:05 <ezdiy>	truffles: being polite just means not giving a crap about things you cant change
Apr 26 14:48:08 <ezdiy>	for example, opionons
Apr 26 14:48:16 <truffles>	hehe
Apr 26 14:48:19 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: from the pov of dictator, it is :)
Apr 26 14:48:22 <truffles>	i like to hear them though
Apr 26 14:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	lolwut
Apr 26 14:48:57 <ezdiy>	subjects are always annyoing
Apr 26 14:48:58 <ezdiy>	you know
Apr 26 14:48:58 <truffles>	i think those ppl have tunnel vision, they wont get it
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Apr 26 14:49:04 <ezdiy>	they have their stupid feelings and such
Apr 26 14:49:12 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno what dictators you've been hanging out with...
Apr 26 14:49:34 <truffles>	although mp certainly wont if he's got me on ignore hehe
Apr 26 14:49:49 <ezdiy>	cognitive dissonance is to be cherished
Apr 26 14:49:53 <ezdiy>	to manipulate
Apr 26 14:49:58 <ezdiy>	but its uber annoying at the same time
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Apr 26 14:50:52 <ezdiy>	truffles: i think mp is strongwilled enough to just feign ignore
Apr 26 14:51:02 <ezdiy>	curiosity and strong will results just not responding :)
Apr 26 14:51:05 <truffles>	i doubt that
Apr 26 14:51:34 <truffles>	im just annoyed we couldnt "debate" before the ignore ...
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Apr 26 14:52:58 <ezdiy>	truffles: better come up with some plot
Apr 26 14:53:02 <ezdiy>	to ignite the nuclear war again
Apr 26 14:53:08 <truffles>	haha
Apr 26 14:53:12 <ezdiy>	between soupnazi and kim jong un of finland
Apr 26 14:53:38 <truffles>	im focused on other times so its not a big deal
Apr 26 14:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	this is making so little sense...
Apr 26 14:54:02 <truffles>	im not a schemer or scammer
Apr 26 14:54:15 <saulimus>	why finland?
Apr 26 14:54:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134491269729.jpg have some water buffalo.
Apr 26 14:54:27 <ezdiy>	its the new bitcoin supernode
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Apr 26 14:56:04 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: i'm yuzhe, btw
Apr 26 14:56:06 <kakobrekla>	i wish reptil dude would come around
Apr 26 14:56:08 <ezdiy>	"some douche", pfft
Apr 26 14:56:12 <ezdiy>	tell her shes fugly
Apr 26 14:56:25 <ezdiy>	kakobrekla: the circle would be complete!
Apr 26 14:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	man... i have no idea what's going on.
Apr 26 14:56:34 <truffles>	wow
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Apr 26 14:56:49 <truffles>	ezdiy ure an interesting dude
Apr 26 14:57:02 <truffles>	bet they still dont get it
Apr 26 14:57:02 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu, truffles is speaking
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Apr 26 14:57:22 <mircea_popescu>	so who's yuhzer
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Apr 26 14:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	so i
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Apr 26 14:58:36 <SlipperySlope>	mircea_popescu, can you say when the April MOPE statement will be published?
Apr 26 14:58:41 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aURG-o7O-I
Apr 26 14:58:43 <ezdiy>	this is yuzhe :)
Apr 26 14:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	SlipperySlope yes, in a few hours
Apr 26 14:59:06 <SlipperySlope>	many thanks!
Apr 26 14:59:07 <mircea_popescu>	usually within a little of the last friday of the month ending
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Apr 26 15:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
Apr 26 15:02:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [+]
Apr 26 15:02:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.246999 BTC [+]
Apr 26 15:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.4649 = 6.0437 BTC [-]
Apr 26 15:04:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.101736 = 0.6104 BTC [+]
Apr 26 15:05:46 <topace>	incase anyone is curious, i solved the IP address leak from emails problem i was talking about yesterday
Apr 26 15:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7899 BTC [+]
Apr 26 15:06:16 <topace>	the soluttion, is, essentially to run your own mailserver, on a separate ip (that will be revealed publicly) and have it strip the appropriate headers out of the messages as they fly thorugh
Apr 26 15:06:25 <topace>	i followed this post: http://www.stardothosting.com/blog/2010/07/remove-mail-headers-in-postfix-outgoing-mail/
Apr 26 15:06:28 <topace>	worked like a c harm
Apr 26 15:06:30 <topace>	charm
Apr 26 15:07:09 <mircea_popescu>	sounds like a winner.
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Apr 26 15:08:31 <MJR_>	ugh, otc is just such a scam fest
Apr 26 15:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	kinda.
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Apr 26 15:09:05 <MJR_>	its not worth the hassle
Apr 26 15:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	i've not been there since
Apr 26 15:09:19 <mircea_popescu>	o hey. since last april.
Apr 26 15:09:28 <MJR_>	birthday cake!
Apr 26 15:09:29 <mircea_popescu>	1 yr
Apr 26 15:09:56 <kakobrekla>	21:09.45 —ChanServ— Registered : Apr 10 19:16:21 2012 (1 year, 2 weeks, 1 day, 23:53:24 ago)
Apr 26 15:10:06 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 26 15:10:36 *	kakobrekla throws caek in everyones faces
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Apr 26 15:14:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.246999 = 2.494 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 15:16:39 <jcpham>	http://i.imgur.com/c5q3yfc.jpg
Apr 26 15:16:43 <jcpham>	LOOK AT MY JEFE
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Apr 26 15:17:03 <jcpham>	he has the optional laser thermal vision
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Apr 26 15:28:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7051 = 3.4102 BTC [-]
Apr 26 15:33:48 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1954004#msg1954004
Apr 26 15:33:50 <kakobrekla>	O_o
Apr 26 15:34:25 <kakobrekla>	all the fun happens on forums :(
Apr 26 15:36:26 <MJR_>	 the coolest guys in Bitcoin Universe
Apr 26 15:37:25 <jborkl>	when we start talking about mB?
Apr 26 15:37:48 <MJR_>	i don't know
Apr 26 15:37:53 <MJR_>	so far he is the only one i've seen do that
Apr 26 15:38:00 <kakobrekla>	thats in the other room #bitcoin-massets
Apr 26 15:38:09 <kakobrekla>	or #mbitcoin-assets
Apr 26 15:38:14 <kakobrekla>	whatever is it.
Apr 26 15:38:15 <jborkl>	or w\e it is- MPEX membership 30 milliion billion
Apr 26 15:38:20 <KRS-1>	#bitcoin-anal
Apr 26 15:38:58 <kakobrekla>	im reading reptilas posts and numbers but i still cant figure out is he rich or poor?
Apr 26 15:39:20 <KRS-1>	EL JEFE
Apr 26 15:39:20 <kakobrekla>	numbers are big
Apr 26 15:39:26 <kakobrekla>	but the units are kinda small
Apr 26 15:39:32 <kakobrekla>	%confused%
Apr 26 15:39:36 <jborkl>	too confusing for me, I think he has 2.4 Bitcoins
Apr 26 15:39:38 <jcpham>	what is this thread
Apr 26 15:39:43 <jcpham>	i'm readin kakobrekla
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Apr 26 15:39:49 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 26 15:39:51 <jcpham>	i don't even
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Apr 26 15:42:07 <jcpham>	HOLY SHIT that guys running a 1.5 Class Supernode!
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Apr 26 15:42:51 <jborkl>	wtf does that even mean?
Apr 26 15:43:04 <jcpham>	it's pretty badass
Apr 26 15:43:13 <jcpham>	if you haven't been paying attention
Apr 26 15:43:17 <jborkl>	I know what a class 1A Supernova is
Apr 26 15:43:34 <jcpham>	i know you want to be better than him but you can't
Apr 26 15:43:38 <jborkl>	but not a class 1.5 supernode
Apr 26 15:44:02 <jcpham>	shrug
Apr 26 15:44:07 <jborkl>	so is a class 1.2 supernode better or a class 1.7?
Apr 26 15:44:23 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1911371#msg1911371
Apr 26 15:45:05 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not sure if that helps explain or makes it worse
Apr 26 15:45:07 <kakobrekla>	how did you not know this
Apr 26 15:45:14 <kakobrekla>	are you completley uneducated?
Apr 26 15:45:23 <ThickAsThieves>	my impression is the guy is a car salesman
Apr 26 15:45:23 <kakobrekla>	its like.. basic stuff!
Apr 26 15:45:30 <jcpham>	ahahaha
Apr 26 15:45:38 <jcpham>	this is so good
Apr 26 15:45:42 <jcpham>	where did you find this
Apr 26 15:45:48 <ThickAsThieves>	he says all kindsa fancy things to impress idiots
Apr 26 15:45:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9176 @ 0.00070108 = 6.4331 BTC [+]
Apr 26 15:45:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10775 @ 0.00070158 = 7.5595 BTC [+]
Apr 26 15:46:00 <ThickAsThieves>	in the hopes of selling them a lemon
Apr 26 15:46:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7149 @ 0.00070497 = 5.0398 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 15:46:21 <jborkl>	That made it worse, made no sense
Apr 26 15:46:30 <jborkl>	lol
Apr 26 15:46:50 <jcpham>	and he donated to the forum
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Apr 26 15:46:53 <jcpham>	!
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Apr 26 15:47:11 <jcpham>	President etc. of Silvervault, Hopea.fi, EIH among others.
Apr 26 15:47:20 <jcpham>	seriously "among others" is vain
Apr 26 15:47:25 <jcpham>	i can pick apart a sentence
Apr 26 15:47:36 <jcpham>	i like this guy
Apr 26 15:48:12 <jborkl>	badge of scammer, donated to forum
Apr 26 15:48:41 <MJR_>	badge of scammer among others
Apr 26 15:49:09 <jborkl>	Seeing $115 ever again seems unlikely to me.
Apr 26 15:49:11 <jcpham>	could just be cultural differences
Apr 26 15:49:22 <jborkl>	his quote
Apr 26 15:49:29 <lippoper>	;;bids 115
Apr 26 15:49:31 <jborkl>	it hit that yesterday
Apr 26 15:49:32 <gribble>	There are currently 33575.454 bitcoins demanded at or over 115.0 USD, worth 4106373.85398 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0059 seconds
Apr 26 15:49:33 <jborkl>	lol
Apr 26 15:49:42 <jcpham>	yeah we're one trade from $115 at all times
Apr 26 15:49:51 <lippoper>	if you sell $4 million worht, it'll come up
Apr 26 15:49:58 <jcpham>	one trade that sets off the rest of them
Apr 26 15:50:14 <lippoper>	;;market sell 33575
Apr 26 15:50:15 <jcpham>	then gox gets ddosed
Apr 26 15:50:15 <gribble>	A market order to sell 33575 bitcoins right now would net 4106321.6274 USD and would take the last price down to 115.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 122.3030 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 42.8787 seconds
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Apr 26 15:50:22 <jcpham>	then bitstamp closes
Apr 26 15:50:26 <jborkl>	lets see if I have this correct
Apr 26 15:50:28 <jcpham>	then bitinstant gets ddosd
Apr 26 15:50:32 <jcpham>	easy $115
Apr 26 15:50:38 <lippoper>	then another exchange shuts down
Apr 26 15:50:41 <jcpham>	that's more like $50
Apr 26 15:50:46 <jborkl>	sell a little at MTGOX, ddos MTGOX, then use the trollbox on btce
Apr 26 15:50:47 <jcpham>	but whatever
Apr 26 15:50:55 <jborkl>	$50 drop
Apr 26 15:51:00 <jcpham>	yeah 6 of us can make 115 happen
Apr 26 15:51:07 <jcpham>	if we put our heads together
Apr 26 15:51:13 <lippoper>	you mean coins together
Apr 26 15:51:18 <jcpham>	or that
Apr 26 15:51:33 <jcpham>	he doesn't understand yet
Apr 26 15:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4549 = 2.7294 BTC [-]
Apr 26 15:52:59 <jborkl>	his class 1.5 superchoad does not rely on the network for price though..
Apr 26 15:53:30 <kakobrekla>	supertoad is disqualified.
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Apr 26 15:53:46 <kakobrekla>	withdrawals depricated.
Apr 26 15:54:43 <jborkl>	better upgrade to aa class 1.4 superchoad just to be sure
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Apr 26 16:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4499 = 1.3497 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 16:18:25 <jurov>	am back, had another interesting btc-related discussion irl with a forex trader... so hard to explain how things work there
Apr 26 16:18:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.247 = 2.494 BTC [+]
Apr 26 16:18:41 <jurov>	hi ezdiy
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Apr 26 16:19:35 <jurov>	he was like "you should haste, large players will come and make mp do their bidding"
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Apr 26 16:20:17 <jurov>	when i explained my problems with mpex interface, why the development is so slow
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Apr 26 16:21:45 <jurov>	btw, expect options on coinbr to be frozen on opex for a while
Apr 26 16:21:57 <ThickAsThieves>	k
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Apr 26 16:46:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2201 @ 0.00070497 = 1.5516 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 16:53:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.00299999 = 0.021 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 16:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	<ThickAsThieves> my impression is the guy is a car salesman <<< lol that makes us 2
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Apr 26 16:56:34 <kakobrekla>	aww jurov you should send him to me
Apr 26 16:57:39 <jurov>	i will. but he's also webdesigner, willing to help me
Apr 26 16:58:12 <mircea_popescu>	forex trader slash web designer ?
Apr 26 16:58:20 <mod6>	ok wtf: https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/327879387292770305
Apr 26 16:59:03 <mircea_popescu>	i got "sorry, this tweet is too retarded for you to read. twitter does not allow very retarded tweets be read."
Apr 26 16:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	should i worry ?
Apr 26 16:59:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.246 = 2.492 BTC [-]
Apr 26 16:59:54 <mod6>	Price pegs never work -- why is that not clear to people, especially Max!?
Apr 26 16:59:58 <Girlfawkesy>	I love the reply to him though.
Apr 26 17:00:46 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 he's jealous that i pegged the bitcoin to the dollar at ~100
Apr 26 17:01:29 <mod6>	Heheheh.
Apr 26 17:01:41 <mircea_popescu>	apparently went out of his "omg 400 500 1546975867"
Apr 26 17:01:51 <jurov>	hes just trolling
Apr 26 17:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	course the retards that follow him can't remember 15 days ago so it's all good.
Apr 26 17:02:41 <mod6>	I liked him better when he only mentioned Bitcoin once in a while.. when he got all "bitcoin jesus" on everyone I'm like, you're not helping, you're just pushing people into something they don't understand yet.
Apr 26 17:03:18 <mod6>	And now, price pegs for bitcoin???! Eff no. Bitcoin is the last bastion of economic freedom in the world.
Apr 26 17:03:39 <jurov>	besides, it was already pegged to $5 some 9-10 months ago. but then pirate vanished.
Apr 26 17:03:58 <jurov>	dunno if fed can do a better job than pirate
Apr 26 17:03:59 <mod6>	there isn't any reason that there should be a price peg for such a thing.  And besides what would be the point of options on bitcoins if the price was pegged?
Apr 26 17:04:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1927 BTC [-]
Apr 26 17:04:34 <mod6>	i dont see the $5 level as a peg, it certainly wasn't stated anywhere, it was just suppression, and undervalued
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Apr 26 17:05:16 <jurov>	jkjk
Apr 26 17:05:21 <kakobrekla>	you know that scam movie 'the secret'
Apr 26 17:05:32 <kakobrekla>	let me tell you, its the other way around
Apr 26 17:05:36 <mod6>	haha, no. but, lol
Apr 26 17:05:52 <mod6>	smh
Apr 26 17:05:56 <jurov>	but it would be really fanny for bernanke to have to calm markets when gox lag happens
Apr 26 17:05:58 <kakobrekla>	when you want fiat there is none, but when you got too much they throw it in your face
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Apr 26 17:07:42 <jurov>	btw, did oprah endorse btc already?
Apr 26 17:07:53 <kakobrekla>	no, that was dr. phil
Apr 26 17:08:01 <ThickAsThieves>	she's still waiting for blockchain sync
Apr 26 17:08:03 <jurov>	i heard she has serious whales in audience
Apr 26 17:08:09 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 26 17:09:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45199 @ 0.00070749 = 31.9778 BTC [+]
Apr 26 17:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	im holding out for roger and cunty lee
Apr 26 17:10:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [+]
Apr 26 17:11:09 <Girlfawkesy>	lol @ thick
Apr 26 17:11:17 <mod6>	anyway, just had to come in here and vent a bit about this stuff.
Apr 26 17:11:33 <mircea_popescu>	lol jurov
Apr 26 17:12:03 <mircea_popescu>	btw, if anyone doesn't know Girlfawkesy, she's an actual girl. send her all your btc.
Apr 26 17:12:23 <ThickAsThieves>	what does she pay in in divs?
Apr 26 17:12:28 <mod6>	I mean, if anything, why not just peg like 1 satoshi to a certain unit of gold? Then it would have a sudo-peg via gold, correct?
Apr 26 17:12:35 <jurov>	did she qualify in topless?
Apr 26 17:12:51 <ThickAsThieves>	the peg idea is so moronic I bet we couldnt have come up with it if we were trying to be morons
Apr 26 17:12:53 <kakobrekla>	im wondering why is there no MaxCoin yet
Apr 26 17:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla he hasn't figured out the fork yet.
Apr 26 17:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	still working on spoon
Apr 26 17:13:22 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 26 17:13:25 <mod6>	ThickAsThieves: ok thank you. I was feeling pretty stupified for a few minutes there.
Apr 26 17:13:34 <Girlfawkesy>	<~~~ actual vagina
Apr 26 17:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;google pegging
Apr 26 17:13:36 <mod6>	lol still working on spoon
Apr 26 17:13:36 <gribble>	Pegging (sexual practice) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegging_(sexual_practice)>; Pegging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegging>; If You Want a More Thoughtful Boyfriend, Try Pegging Him - Jezebel: <http://jezebel.com/5987888/if-you-want-a-more-thoughtful-boyfriend-try-pegging-him>
Apr 26 17:13:44 <mircea_popescu>	there. pegging. a sexual practice.
Apr 26 17:13:47 <mircea_popescu>	ginger up max's ass
Apr 26 17:14:04 <Girlfawkesy>	Actually, I was thinking about making a pegging set, but I dunno how thrilling that would be for you boys
Apr 26 17:14:08 <jurov>	mod6 satoshi's already practically pegged to some miliwatt or microwatt anyway
Apr 26 17:14:50 <mod6>	jurov: ahh, hmm.
Apr 26 17:14:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2466 BTC [+]
Apr 26 17:15:06 <ThickAsThieves>	but elec cost is variable too
Apr 26 17:15:26 <mod6>	I like the idea of only supply/demand governing the price, btc needs natural price signals.
Apr 26 17:15:29 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe we can peg it to untapped vagina inches?
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Apr 26 17:16:10 <ThickAsThieves>	or centimters if you prefer
Apr 26 17:16:11 <jurov>	stfu ThickAsThieves with your imperial units
Apr 26 17:16:16 <ThickAsThieves>	^
Apr 26 17:16:18 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 26 17:16:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00281 BTC [+]
Apr 26 17:16:26 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	Use black vaginas and not asian vaginas
Apr 26 17:16:28 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	they're deeper
Apr 26 17:16:42 <jurov>	mp already presciently did the calculations on trilema
Apr 26 17:17:00 <jurov>	he'll prolly announce derivatives any moment
Apr 26 17:17:04 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	And MP, you were right, I forgot how much better a proper irc client is than the stupid webchat.
Apr 26 17:17:10 <mircea_popescu>	you're welcum
Apr 26 17:17:14 <ThickAsThieves>	[17:16] <GirlfawkesyBTC> Use black vaginas and not asian vaginas  <--- no one likes colored coins tho
Apr 26 17:17:20 <mircea_popescu>	bwahaha
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Apr 26 17:17:51 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	lol
Apr 26 17:18:11 <kakobrekla>	connection overload
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Apr 26 17:18:22 <mircea_popescu>	pff selfowned
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Apr 26 17:20:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i tell my rackspace cloud manager to fix permissions on one folder and i get a wall of text about FACLs :(
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Apr 26 17:24:43 <mod6>	(14:01) < jurov> hes just trolling << i guess this could be true.
Apr 26 17:25:02 <mod6>	people are so clueless about finance though, that you'd think that he'd try to stay more serious about the subject.
Apr 26 17:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;tcker
Apr 26 17:25:20 <gribble>	Error: "tcker" is not a valid command.
Apr 26 17:25:23 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 26 17:25:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.30001, Best ask: 136.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29999, Last trade: 136.60000, 24 hour volume: 168982.74808586, 24 hour low: 121.45164, 24 hour high: 149.87970, 24 hour vwap: 134.31450
Apr 26 17:26:22 <mod6>	;;bc,stats
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Apr 26 17:26:26 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233309 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 546 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 2 hours, 52 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9981977.43545 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.22853
Apr 26 17:26:38 <mod6>	wow 11.22853
Apr 26 17:27:15 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 26 17:27:17 <gribble>	76784.2992817
Apr 26 17:27:24 <ThickAsThieves>	not bad
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Apr 26 17:28:56 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, will options be a lil less timid to volatility next session?
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Apr 26 17:29:23 <mircea_popescu>	indeed.
Apr 26 17:29:29 <ThickAsThieves>	cool cool
Apr 26 17:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	actually pilot new model should be coming online soonish
Apr 26 17:31:00 <kakobrekla>	but now btc will be 137 foreva
Apr 26 17:31:09 <kakobrekla>	pegged.
Apr 26 17:32:10 <jurov>	like "what if 137 is the new 5?"
Apr 26 17:33:06 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	until the next major country to undergo economic collapse...
Apr 26 17:33:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1925 BTC [-]
Apr 26 17:33:37 <kakobrekla>	who is next on the list, somalia?
Apr 26 17:34:37 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	Spain isnt looking well these days
Apr 26 17:34:49 <jurov>	how can somalia further collapse?
Apr 26 17:34:57 <kakobrekla>	jurov my somalia.
Apr 26 17:35:40 <jurov>	oh at least slovakia can't collapse. cuz slovak banks all collapsed long ago, all we have are foreign subsidiaries
Apr 26 17:36:03 <jurov>	no stock market in bratislava, either
Apr 26 17:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4257 = 1.7028 BTC [-]
Apr 26 17:36:25 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker h vtx
Apr 26 17:36:25 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Apr 26 17:36:29 <kakobrekla>	!ticker h vtx
Apr 26 17:36:31 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.40070002 / 0.4458272 / 0.48249899 (224 shares, 99.86529265 BTC), 7D: 0.36100100 / 0.45177942 / 0.49750000 (1178 shares, 532.19615862 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.40389269 / 0.61488800 (6234 shares, 2517.86702390 BTC)
Apr 26 17:37:09 *	mircea_popescu opens mpex subsidiary
Apr 26 17:37:30 <kakobrekla>	vtx is kinda funny
Apr 26 17:37:46 <kakobrekla>	trading allover the place
Apr 26 17:38:09 <jurov>	and MPBPT closed at 0.098 (nominal value is 0.1) and no bids anymore... quite chilling mkt anticipation
Apr 26 17:38:11 <KRS1>	slovakia is NOT somalia
Apr 26 17:38:24 <kakobrekla>	too late nao!
Apr 26 17:38:26 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 stop scamming us. we know.
Apr 26 17:38:38 <KRS1>	ok..
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Apr 26 17:39:18 <jurov>	krs1 is not scammer, just being anal
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Apr 26 17:40:37 <jurov>	dunno, should i try to place 0.07 bid for mpbpt and cause panic?
Apr 26 17:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4261 BTC [+]
Apr 26 17:43:38 <mod6>	(14:32) < jurov> like "what if 137 is the new 5?" << http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3u499x/
Apr 26 17:43:51 <mod6>	:D
Apr 26 17:44:35 <jurov>	mod6 thx had exactly that in mind...throwing it to -otc
Apr 26 17:45:16 <jurov>	should have thought about that mpbpt panic yesterday...i'm so slow recently
Apr 26 17:46:02 <jurov>	also vat report was due yesterday, fck that...
Apr 26 17:46:50 <mod6>	(14:44) < jurov> mod6 thx had exactly that in mind...throwing it to -otc << haha nice.
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Apr 26 17:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4599 BTC [+]
Apr 26 17:47:04 <jurov>	so, you can expect coinbr to get seized by slovak tax office over vat not due in time :/
Apr 26 17:47:38 <mod6>	no wai?
Apr 26 17:47:52 <mod6>	wtf is vat?
Apr 26 17:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	drama added taxc
Apr 26 17:48:16 <jurov>	^ yea. socialist yurp stuff
Apr 26 17:48:17 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	value added tax
Apr 26 17:48:17 <mod6>	oh value added ta
Apr 26 17:48:18 <mod6>	*tax
Apr 26 17:49:12 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	bullshit compound tax
Apr 26 17:49:18 <jurov>	i'm gonna have llc with external accounting, looking forward to it
Apr 26 17:49:24 <jurov>	then, blow & hookers
Apr 26 17:49:50 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	sigh...when am I going to get all my hookers?
Apr 26 17:50:11 <mod6>	hopefully soon.
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Apr 26 17:50:49 <mod6>	jurov: but coinbr will live on, just a different structure 'eh
Apr 26 17:51:05 <thestringpuller>	wait coinbr is down?
Apr 26 17:51:11 <thestringpuller>	waaaat?
Apr 26 17:51:28 <jurov>	no, i'm jking
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Apr 26 17:51:35 <jurov>	you can't access it?
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Apr 26 17:52:22 <thestringpuller>	no I misunderstood
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Apr 26 17:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4499 = 1.7996 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 17:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7051 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 17:55:28 <jurov>	it's normal to be a bit late with tax declaration, no criminal stuff
Apr 26 17:55:46 <jurov>	plus i don't have anything to declare recently anyway
Apr 26 17:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.7997 = 5.3991 BTC [+]
Apr 26 17:57:18 <mod6>	well good deal. Sail strong Coinbr!
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Apr 26 17:59:06 <jurov>	i should kick myself every time i'm thinking of such dangerous jokes
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Apr 26 18:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4449 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 18:06:18 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	As a side note, thank you to everyone who has been politely educating me today. I've been away from btc for awhile, and before I throw myself into coinbr or other trading I'd like to feel rather competent.
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Apr 26 18:08:33 <jurov>	"Before I throw myself into ... I'd like to feel rather competent." <<< I'm gonna to use this, thx
Apr 26 18:08:44 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 26 18:08:45 <gribble>	There are currently 168990.8 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14632147.5237 USD in total. | Data vintage: 70.0259 seconds
Apr 26 18:08:52 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 26 18:08:52 <gribble>	There are currently 69365.632 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 11722826.2462 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.9878 seconds
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Apr 26 18:15:09 <GirlfawkesyBTC>	I'm guessing thats something not many people do?
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Apr 26 18:18:46 <benkay>	GirlfawkesyBTC do you plan to trade actively?
Apr 26 18:21:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.237 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7051 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 18:24:04 <kakobrekla>	take that as a no.
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Apr 26 18:26:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.237 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	GBBG is MUCH MORE then the fund.  The fund was started exclusively for members to give them something extra before the core GBBG product is released. The core product has been in development for more than 10 years.
Apr 26 18:28:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.24 = 12.4 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:28:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24699 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:28:19 <kakobrekla>	the what
Apr 26 18:28:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.247 = 3.741 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:28:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2479 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:28:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.248 = 3.744 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:28:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.249 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:29:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:29:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:29:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.258 = 12.58 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:29:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2879 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:29:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.288 = 6.44 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:29:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.289 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:29:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.29 = 12.9 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:32:38 <mircea_popescu>	yes.
Apr 26 18:32:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.299 = 9.093 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:33:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Apr 26 18:34:28 <ThickAsThieves>	when asicminer said they would put 12-15TH online some month(s) ago, the price rose from .6 to .9, now that they are actually doing it, it goes from .9 to 1.3
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Apr 26 18:34:55 <mircea_popescu>	cool story huh.
Apr 26 18:35:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i wonder how much a truly pro btc co would fetch
Apr 26 18:36:46 <ThickAsThieves>	at 1.3, isn't it gonna take like a year or something to get that much in divs?
Apr 26 18:37:24 <mircea_popescu>	shhhh
Apr 26 18:37:51 <ThickAsThieves>	price will keep going up, no worries!
Apr 26 18:38:14 <ThickAsThieves>	in 3mos we'll have people saying "yeah but in USD we're still up!"
Apr 26 18:38:32 <mircea_popescu>	i'm sorta preparing a bucket of lulz for the first contractual dispute which won't be resolvable for lack of an actual contract.
Apr 26 18:39:13 <ThickAsThieves>	like how some of the shares were unsold?
Apr 26 18:39:32 <ThickAsThieves>	are*
Apr 26 18:39:37 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea what'll it be, but...
Apr 26 18:39:47 <mircea_popescu>	the entire thing has a lot of promise baked in
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Apr 26 18:47:25 <mircea_popescu>	http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/26/technology/security/livingsocial-hack/index.html lol
Apr 26 18:48:25 <joecool>	they are very fucked lol
Apr 26 18:48:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
Apr 26 18:48:58 <joecool>	http://www.businessinsider.com/livingsocial-may-have-taken-debt-2013-2
Apr 26 18:50:55 <mircea_popescu>	o wow had no idea
Apr 26 18:51:50 <jurov>	$avg
Apr 26 18:51:52 <mpexbot>	jurov: 132.26
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Apr 26 19:07:37 <SlipperySlope>	mircea_popescu, will you please mention something here when the April MPOE statement is posted on Trilema?
Apr 26 19:07:47 <mircea_popescu>	i always do.
Apr 26 19:09:44 <jurov>	please also mention the vwap used. i always forget to check it at the opex time :/
Apr 26 19:10:10 <mircea_popescu>	you'll have to be dilligent :D
Apr 26 19:11:46 <troc>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1955352#msg1955352
Apr 26 19:12:56 <jcpham>	yeah mircea_popescu
Apr 26 19:12:59 <mircea_popescu>	yeah yeah. everyone wants mpex to be an information platform
Apr 26 19:13:01 <troc>	3FTE  on SD now !
Apr 26 19:13:10 <mircea_popescu>	because blogs forums and news sites + email skype and whatever aren't enough
Apr 26 19:13:34 <mircea_popescu>	i should compete with twitter and facebook, since this is what you do on the internet.
Apr 26 19:13:37 <jcpham>	it's funny coming froma guy who basically doesn't run a site with any rel backend
Apr 26 19:13:47 <jcpham>	asking you to run one so he can send messages
Apr 26 19:14:24 <jcpham>	amirite cuz SD could you know register accounts and run a db and NOT USE the blockchain
Apr 26 19:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	i think they're planning to have sessions next.
Apr 26 19:14:51 <jcpham>	</trollmode>
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Apr 26 19:19:26 <jurov>	i have posted better solution for erik
Apr 26 19:19:34 <jcpham>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1955543#msg1955543
Apr 26 19:19:39 <jcpham>	mostly that though
Apr 26 19:23:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Apr 26 19:24:33 <mircea_popescu>	i'm currently only operating a sub-level sector 8.3 bitcoin meganode.
Apr 26 19:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 26 19:25:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov i srsly don'ty understand why that forum thread isn't good.
Apr 26 19:25:26 <mircea_popescu>	everyone already knows to watch it
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Apr 26 19:26:13 <jurov>	? no i was talking about s.dice thread
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Apr 26 19:27:25 <troc>	aren't sessions are too late to  benefit of blockchain spam.  SD proportion of transactions is going down. perhaps sessions to increase site stickyness
Apr 26 19:29:41 <taub>	Max Keiser gone full clown mode when sugggesting to peg bitcoin to dollar
Apr 26 19:29:51 <taub>	he doesnt know how the currency works at all
Apr 26 19:30:03 <jurov>	trying furiously to increase stickyness
Apr 26 19:30:26 <troc>	ok good
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Apr 26 19:45:27 <jurov>	$avg
Apr 26 19:45:28 <mpexbot>	jurov: 131.83
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Apr 26 20:00:54 <jurov>	$avg
Apr 26 20:00:56 <mpexbot>	jurov: 131.83
Apr 26 20:01:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2689 BTC [+]
Apr 26 20:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.478 = 0.956 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 20:09:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.269 = 2.538 BTC [+]
Apr 26 20:11:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00326 BTC [+]
Apr 26 20:12:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.00327 = 0.1962 BTC [+]
Apr 26 20:13:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003332 = 0.1666 BTC [+]
Apr 26 20:18:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.003333 = 0.0833 BTC [+]
Apr 26 20:29:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.281 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 20:37:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [-]
Apr 26 20:38:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.248 BTC [-]
Apr 26 20:38:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2401 BTC [-]
Apr 26 20:39:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-]
Apr 26 20:39:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 20:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 20:59:05 <jurov>	$avg
Apr 26 20:59:06 <mpexbot>	jurov: 131.69
Apr 26 20:59:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-april-2013-statement/
Apr 26 20:59:14 <mircea_popescu>	there we go.
Apr 26 20:59:22 <mircea_popescu>	SlipperySlope ^
Apr 26 21:01:52 <jurov>	*sigh* -36%
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Apr 26 21:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	myeah.
Apr 26 21:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4501 = 1.3503 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 21:05:30 <tiberiusiv>	lol.
Apr 26 21:05:36 <tiberiusiv>	another loss for mpoe
Apr 26 21:05:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:05:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:05:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:05:58 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:17 <jurov>	kakobreklaaaaaaaaaaaa
Apr 26 21:06:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol ouch
Apr 26 21:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 21:06:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:06:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:06 <jurov>	kakobrekla if you use word highlight
Apr 26 21:07:06 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 21:07:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 21:07:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:07:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 21:08:07 <kakobrekla>	hm wtf
Apr 26 21:08:27 <kakobrekla>	dont fiddle with assbot srsly.
Apr 26 21:09:18 <mircea_popescu>	so how many btc is that ?
Apr 26 21:09:27 <kakobrekla>	0
Apr 26 21:09:39 <kakobrekla>	1 order repeated
Apr 26 21:09:49 <kakobrekla>	im doing some ass fiddling
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Apr 26 21:13:44 <pizzaman1337>	mircea_popescu: I had some BTC deposited as surety for some old options contracts at $75, but it doesn't seem like I got it back
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Apr 26 21:14:21 <pizzaman1337>	for O.BTCUSD.P750T options (old ones)
Apr 26 21:15:08 <mircea_popescu>	well ?
Apr 26 21:15:15 <mircea_popescu>	p750t is way underwater.
Apr 26 21:15:27 <mircea_popescu>	$avg
Apr 26 21:15:28 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: 131.45
Apr 26 21:15:34 <pizzaman1337>	ah, yeah
Apr 26 21:15:34 <pizzaman1337>	nvm
Apr 26 21:15:50 <pizzaman1337>	duh
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Apr 26 21:22:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;ident pizzaman1337
Apr 26 21:22:30 <gribble>	Nick 'pizzaman1337', with hostmask 'pizzaman1337!~pizzaman1@unaffiliated/pizzaman1337', is not identified.
Apr 26 21:23:52 <pizzaman1337>	;;gpg eauth pizzaman1337
Apr 26 21:23:53 <gribble>	Request successful for user pizzaman1337, hostmask pizzaman1337!~pizzaman1@unaffiliated/pizzaman1337. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/48BBF68A41783DF8
Apr 26 21:24:44 <pizzaman1337>	gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7e3f4363cef5553236faced3a80f1cbaefc58c06ccd1cb0fd70516d1
Apr 26 21:24:48 <pizzaman1337>	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7e3f4363cef5553236faced3a80f1cbaefc58c06ccd1cb0fd70516d1
Apr 26 21:24:49 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user pizzaman1337 with key 48BBF68A41783DF8
Apr 26 21:28:35 <jurov>	mpoe bot not online yet?
Apr 26 21:28:58 <mircea_popescu>	was a second ago
Apr 26 21:29:30 <jurov>	it's perhaps more timid now :)
Apr 26 21:31:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 26 21:31:28 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps connectivity issues to blockcharts
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Apr 26 21:34:23 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4619 = 1.8476 BTC [+]
Apr 26 21:34:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2797 BTC [+]
Apr 26 21:38:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2798 BTC [+]
Apr 26 21:39:02 <pizzaman1337>	ah yeah, looks like the spread for the bot dropped a ton: http://i.imgur.com/P5aQ53K.png
Apr 26 21:39:30 <mircea_popescu>	"No i'm not related in any way to Bitfloor, although i used the same html/css front-end framework : bootstrap (which is quite popular among bitcoin services these days i figured"
Apr 26 21:40:23 <mircea_popescu>	nice graph pizzaman1337
Apr 26 21:40:44 <pizzaman1337>	thanks, I need to make a public site for these
Apr 26 21:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	srsly.
Apr 26 21:42:00 <mircea_popescu>	i find it pretty incredible that nobody moved into the midmarket during these ~2 weeks
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Apr 26 21:42:50 <jurov>	they had better things to do with bitcoins than having them stuck as cover?
Apr 26 21:42:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2797 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:42:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.28 = 5.12 BTC [+]
Apr 26 21:43:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [+]
Apr 26 21:43:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.287 = 2.574 BTC [+]
Apr 26 21:43:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.288 = 2.576 BTC [+]
Apr 26 21:43:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.288 = 3.864 BTC [+]
Apr 26 21:45:03 <jurov>	but i got some interest recently, we'll see
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Apr 26 21:47:31 <mircea_popescu>	i guess that's possible, yea
Apr 26 21:48:49 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 26 21:48:50 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.45606, Best ask: 136.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54394, Last trade: 136.00000, 24 hour volume: 122987.25837791, 24 hour low: 121.45164, 24 hour high: 139.49743, 24 hour vwap: 131.92260
Apr 26 21:49:04 <Diablo-D3>	it'd be nice if the market completed my prediction already
Apr 26 21:49:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.288 BTC [+]
Apr 26 21:53:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.198299 BTC [+]
Apr 26 21:54:26 <jurov>	bitcoincharts down indeed
Apr 26 21:55:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2471 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:55:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.247 BTC [-]
Apr 26 21:55:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.245 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 22:00:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [+]
Apr 26 22:03:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
Apr 26 22:03:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.24 = 3.72 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 22:07:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28799 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 22:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4571 BTC [-]
Apr 26 22:12:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4571 BTC [-]
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Apr 26 22:19:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40603 BTC [+]
Apr 26 22:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4581 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 22:30:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2401 BTC [-]
Apr 26 22:30:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-]
Apr 26 22:31:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.231 BTC [-]
Apr 26 22:31:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
Apr 26 22:31:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.22 = 4.88 BTC [-]
Apr 26 22:31:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
Apr 26 22:31:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
Apr 26 22:47:46 <KRS1>	whats your prediction diablo
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Apr 26 22:54:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
Apr 26 22:56:09 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: 94% of MPEx April revenue from reg fees?
Apr 26 22:56:24 <mircea_popescu>	something like that
Apr 26 22:56:25 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: raise it to 1000 BTC, you could be in the black!
Apr 26 22:56:31 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 26 22:56:54 <mircea_popescu>	after march a lot of people perked up.
Apr 26 22:58:38 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: perhaps your sales fee is too low?
Apr 26 23:00:05 <ThickAsThieves>	that might be shortsighted
Apr 26 23:00:25 <joecool>	mircea_popescu: dare i ask? do you give mpex registration discounts to OTC members?
Apr 26 23:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	no, everyone else's is too high.
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Apr 26 23:00:43 <mircea_popescu>	joecool you mean wot ?
Apr 26 23:00:46 <joecool>	yes
Apr 26 23:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	i do, if you mention someone;'s key that's already registered you each get 5btc
Apr 26 23:02:17 <joecool>	regged on both mpex and wot?
Apr 26 23:02:21 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4364 @ 0.0007011 = 3.0596 BTC [-]
Apr 26 23:02:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2779 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:02:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.278 = 2.556 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:02:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.28 = 2.56 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:03:08 <mircea_popescu>	just mpex.
Apr 26 23:03:29 <joecool>	oh, then mircea_popescu
Apr 26 23:08:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50 @ 0.0007011 = 0.0351 BTC [-]
Apr 26 23:08:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00439 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4669 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:09:43 <ChaangNoi>	kako that 13 btc guys, says he is with justin beiber now, or his suit is next to it and they are having a party
Apr 26 23:09:47 <ChaangNoi>	fucking lol
Apr 26 23:10:48 <mircea_popescu>	so did you go ?
Apr 26 23:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.29999999 = 0.6 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:11:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:11:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:11:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.315 = 2.52 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:11:17 <ChaangNoi>	kakobrekla see my message about about 13 btc guy
Apr 26 23:11:22 <ChaangNoi>	mp im in thailand lol
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Apr 26 23:11:36 <ChaangNoi>	so no
Apr 26 23:11:42 <jcpham>	best thread ever
Apr 26 23:12:07 <ChaangNoi>	that guy is acting like i did something wrong by saying his 13 btc send proves nothing
Apr 26 23:12:16 <ChaangNoi>	if he even sent it...
Apr 26 23:12:50 <mircea_popescu>	he's a little nutty.
Apr 26 23:12:52 <jcpham>	i don't understnad it
Apr 26 23:12:54 <ThickAsThieves>	why 13, seems arbitrary and small
Apr 26 23:13:01 <ChaangNoi>	13.37 btc
Apr 26 23:13:01 <jcpham>	yeah just just a tad nutty
Apr 26 23:13:04 <ChaangNoi>	he was leet
Apr 26 23:13:07 <jcpham>	who's wallet is it
Apr 26 23:13:10 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 26 23:13:20 <ChaangNoi>	it was rpetalias web wallet
Apr 26 23:13:36 <ChaangNoi>	he sent to a trolls web wallet
Apr 26 23:13:51 <jcpham>	why does that matter if he can move 13 coins?
Apr 26 23:13:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i think he at least deseves to be called his rightful name
Apr 26 23:13:56 <ChaangNoi>	suposedly, as there was no block chain transaction
Apr 26 23:13:59 <jcpham>	is that symbolic
Apr 26 23:13:59 <ThickAsThieves>	reptilia
Apr 26 23:14:15 <jcpham>	is it elite to link to one's holdings?
Apr 26 23:14:18 <ThickAsThieves>	n
Apr 26 23:14:25 <ChaangNoi>	he was trying to show he had 24k btc so he could lose 24
Apr 26 23:14:50 <jcpham>	i remember that one time that posted that screenshot of his bitcoinica account
Apr 26 23:14:52 <ChaangNoi>	i just asked him why he did it and if he wanted to get hacked
Apr 26 23:14:54 <ChaangNoi>	he had no answer
Apr 26 23:15:02 <jcpham>	snd then i literally watched him get took in -otc
Apr 26 23:15:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4669 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:15:10 <ChaangNoi>	lol
Apr 26 23:15:12 <jcpham>	and peopled laughed about it
Apr 26 23:15:14 <mircea_popescu>	i vaguely remember this
Apr 26 23:15:17 <mircea_popescu>	who was it ?
Apr 26 23:15:19 <jcpham>	right?
Apr 26 23:15:23 <jcpham>	i dunno
Apr 26 23:15:33 <mircea_popescu>	yea guy published his position got wiped in like 20 minutes
Apr 26 23:15:35 <mircea_popescu>	all butthurt
Apr 26 23:15:35 <jcpham>	the lesson was not to show your cards
Apr 26 23:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.467 = 4.67 BTC [+]
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Apr 26 23:16:04 <jcpham>	maybe we should dig up the thread and link him to it
Apr 26 23:16:23 <kakobrekla>	brb
Apr 26 23:16:59 <asciilifeform>	maybe we can get the fellow to tell us which data center his hotwallet is in, too
Apr 26 23:17:08 <asciilifeform>	and in which cage
Apr 26 23:17:37 <mircea_popescu>	cage ?
Apr 26 23:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	you kid sir.
Apr 26 23:17:59 <ThickAsThieves>	i bet his password has 1337 in it
Apr 26 23:18:20 <jcpham>	i bet we can trick him into giving us the name of blockchin web wallet
Apr 26 23:18:25 <asciilifeform>	ThickAsThieves: I bet it's "p4ssw0rd"
Apr 26 23:18:58 <jcpham>	i will NEVER find this thread
Apr 26 23:19:33 <jcpham>	i really want to find the thread where the guy posted his 98k in bitcoinica and minutes later it was gone
Apr 26 23:19:57 <asciilifeform>	jcpham: how do you suppose that worked?
Apr 26 23:20:15 <jcpham>	do you want me to spell it out it gory detail
Apr 26 23:20:34 <mircea_popescu>	so basically the news out of the us is rthat the us senate is legislating ebay out of business
Apr 26 23:20:36 <mircea_popescu>	amazon won.
Apr 26 23:20:49 <mircea_popescu>	which tbh is kinda cool, i always hated paypal.
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Apr 26 23:21:14 <jcpham>	basically the guy revealed his postion on bitcoinica
Apr 26 23:21:15 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.468 = 2.34 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:21:16 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.47 = 2.35 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:21:17 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.477999 = 1.434 BTC [+]
Apr 26 23:21:33 <jcpham>	and several people just went the other way with sufficient funding and he was force liquidated
Apr 26 23:21:40 <ThickAsThieves>	mp, link?
Apr 26 23:21:41 <jcpham>	because that's how bitcoinica worked
Apr 26 23:21:52 <asciilifeform>	jcpham: ok, that makes sense
Apr 26 23:22:18 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/27/technology/internet-sales-tax-coming-too-late-for-some-stores.html?_r=0
Apr 26 23:22:24 <jcpham>	yeah a channel full of guys playing games on bitcoinica is not someone you wanna share info like this with
Apr 26 23:23:22 <jcpham>	somewhere
Apr 26 23:23:45 <jcpham>	damn 10:1 leverage at that
Apr 26 23:24:44 <joeykrim>	mircea_popescu, i wrote my congress ppl to not pass that :x
Apr 26 23:24:53 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: The linked article suggests that the tax only applies to ebay sellers who gross over $1M
Apr 26 23:25:15 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: but yeah, the buraucrats "do what they must, because they can."
Apr 26 23:25:20 <asciilifeform>	*bureaucrats
Apr 26 23:26:28 <ThickAsThieves>	amazon is also having trouble eeking out good profits no?
Apr 26 23:28:11 <joecool>	it did take them like a decade to become profitable though
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Apr 26 23:31:24 <asciilifeform>	speaking of idiot passwords, it looks like people have taken to "mining" brainwallets - with results.
Apr 26 23:31:55 <jcpham>	seems like i've seen that on reddit and elsewhere
Apr 26 23:32:04 <jcpham>	doesn't surprise me
Apr 26 23:32:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2718 BTC [-]
Apr 26 23:32:29 <asciilifeform>	wonder what the biggest brainmining find so far was
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Apr 26 23:35:37 <jcpham>	https://sites.google.com/site/hannahlogo/screen-shots-4
Apr 26 23:35:40 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves no., they grew 22%
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Apr 26 23:35:50 <jcpham>	lots of gold on that site about bitcoinica
Apr 26 23:35:55 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform the mining brainwallets is real old news.
Apr 26 23:36:14 <mircea_popescu>	joeykrim they don't listen so well do they.
Apr 26 23:37:48 <jcpham>	that guys entire holding are detailed there jeez
Apr 26 23:37:51 <ThickAsThieves>	personally, i feel that amazon does to little branding
Apr 26 23:37:55 <ThickAsThieves>	too*
Apr 26 23:38:19 <ThickAsThieves>	they are not properly protecting what they are forgoing so much profit for
Apr 26 23:38:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
Apr 26 23:38:59 <jcpham>	https://plus.google.com/100386605739064901646/posts/FSb5J3m9rxz
Apr 26 23:39:03 <jcpham>	i'm so boss
Apr 26 23:39:40 <jcpham>	http://i.imgur.com/mbAEE.png
Apr 26 23:40:46 <jcpham>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=59969.0;all
Apr 26 23:40:49 <jcpham>	boom
Apr 26 23:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	haha wd
Apr 26 23:41:21 <jcpham>	this is exactly where the phrase zhoutonged originated
Apr 26 23:41:26 <jcpham>	know your bitcoin
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Apr 26 23:41:43 <jcpham>	all of this lore laid out for you
Apr 26 23:43:05 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I missed the brainmining thing when it started, and found out about it by sheer accident - ran across some published code which lets even idiots try their hand at it, while looking for something else
Apr 26 23:43:39 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform i recall someone pointing out hashing god yields some btc years ago
Apr 26 23:43:47 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham totally.
Apr 26 23:45:05 <joeykrim>	mircea_popescu, lol .. no they sure dont
Apr 26 23:45:38 <jcpham>	also realize some of those thread commenters are pirate lenders
Apr 26 23:45:49 <jcpham>	oooh plot thickens
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Apr 26 23:45:55 <jcpham>	let's write a novel
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Apr 26 23:46:46 <mircea_popescu>	he thinks he can get away from this crime!!!!
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Apr 26 23:47:30 <jcpham>	Who were interested in this liquidation? nobody would buy 20 000BTC just for fun, and nobody could get profit from this trade except..... right.. bitcoinica.
Apr 26 23:47:35 <jcpham>	epic last words
Apr 26 23:48:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [-]
Apr 26 23:48:03 <jcpham>	except he goes on to say "I am 7 years in trading, I know who make profits and how."
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Apr 26 23:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham his argument that zhou was bucketshopping is convincing on the face
Apr 26 23:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	it's also supported by ulterior email leaks etc.
Apr 26 23:49:33 <jcpham>	oh i'm not saying he wasn't
Apr 26 23:49:56 <jcpham>	it's awesome how zhoutong chimes in after his customer just got force liquidated like nothing happened
Apr 26 23:50:11 <jcpham>	when at the tim 85% of mtgox's volume was bitcoinica
Apr 26 23:50:33 <jcpham>	so a trade gox is all it took
Apr 26 23:50:48 <jcpham>	isn't that wild?
Apr 26 23:50:53 <joecool>	it was that high from bitcoinica?
Apr 26 23:51:04 <jcpham>	right?
Apr 26 23:51:12 <jcpham>	know your bitcoin
Apr 26 23:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	A crime how, exactly? You do know what a bucket shop is, right? And you know why they aren't allowed in a regulated market?
Apr 26 23:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	Will the internet investigate? Where will he be jailed, or do you plan to have him digitized and encrypted in a flash drive?
Apr 26 23:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 26 23:51:21 <joecool>	jcpham: i know the bitcoin i lost in bitcoinica
Apr 26 23:51:29 <joecool>	that i never actually traded with
Apr 26 23:51:31 <jcpham>	dawww
Apr 26 23:51:33 <joecool>	lol
Apr 26 23:51:44 <joecool>	i put coin in like 2 days before shit went to hell
Apr 26 23:51:45 <jcpham>	i lost some usd i think but not enough to care about
Apr 26 23:51:58 <joecool>	i lost enough to sting a pretty good bit
Apr 26 23:52:19 <jcpham>	my condolences. bitcoinica and gox ran each other for a time
Apr 26 23:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	ACHTUNG! Alles touristen und non-technischen looken peepers!
Apr 26 23:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	Fingergrabbing and pressing the cnoeppkes from the computers is allowed for die experts only!
Apr 26 23:53:54 <mircea_popescu>	So relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights!
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Apr 26 23:54:17 <jcpham>	i remember now why i remember that event
Apr 26 23:54:23 <jcpham>	tis a memorable one
Apr 26 23:54:34 <ThickAsThieves>	so many scammer tags in that thread
Apr 26 23:54:40 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I once heard of a mutilated-English version of this warning, that hung in German machine rooms.
Apr 26 23:54:46 <jcpham>	it's like a who's who
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Apr 26 23:55:04 <jcpham>	even the JRO ringcoin guy
Apr 26 23:55:09 <jcpham>	where is kronos.io
Apr 26 23:55:29 <jcpham>	there's more scandal
Apr 26 23:55:44 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves noticeably jrowens doesn't have one
Apr 26 23:55:49 <jcpham>	that whole thread exposes a seedy core
Apr 26 23:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	about half the scammers in there are tagged.
Apr 26 23:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.3 = 3.6 BTC [-]
Apr 26 23:56:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [-]
Apr 26 23:56:49 <jcpham>	because for me it happened realtime in #bitcoin and #bitcoin-otc
Apr 26 23:58:00 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 138
Apr 26 23:58:01 <gribble>	There are currently 326.79324 bitcoins offered at or under 138.0 USD, worth 45081.833772 USD in total. | Data vintage: 61.8149 seconds
Apr 26 23:58:08 <thestringpuller>	;;bids 135
Apr 26 23:58:09 <gribble>	There are currently 1524.0918 bitcoins demanded at or over 135.0 USD, worth 206359.098706 USD in total. | Data vintage: 69.7801 seconds
Apr 26 23:58:18 <mircea_popescu>	"Trading what?  Most traders I know don't know shit about trading something as volatile as this.  Reading through, people appear to not understand how futures and options work, and now they are learning, are annoyed at their own ignorance."
Apr 26 23:58:23 <mircea_popescu>	this from... wait for it... harnett.
Apr 26 23:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	indeed lulzmine that thread jcpham
Apr 26 23:58:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 636 @ 0.0007011 = 0.4459 BTC [-]
Apr 26 23:58:44 <thestringpuller>	lol harnett
Apr 26 23:58:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00069846 = 2.0954 BTC [-]
Apr 26 23:58:51 <thestringpuller>	How many coins did Harnett lose?
Apr 26 23:58:57 <thestringpuller>	"Starfish Bank" lolol
Apr 26 23:59:02 <jcpham>	just document and wait for the right moment to link someone to it
Apr 26 23:59:07 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 139
Apr 26 23:59:10 <gribble>	There are currently 2311.797 bitcoins offered at or under 139.0 USD, worth 320766.335481 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0035 seconds
Apr 26 23:59:19 <jcpham>	there's people out there that need ot read it i'm sure
Apr 27 00:00:04 <jcpham>	-PR could probably ruin someone's day with if timed properly
Apr 27 00:00:08 <jcpham>	timing is everything, really
Apr 27 00:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	you kidding ? that's what she does, ruins people's days
Apr 27 00:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	on a daily basis
Apr 27 00:00:29 <jcpham>	hahha
Apr 27 00:00:31 <KRS1>	lmao
Apr 27 00:00:35 <KRS1>	<Naders> I HAVE THOUSAND OF DOLLARS ON THE LINE MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!
Apr 27 00:00:51 <mircea_popescu>	epic thread is epic.
Apr 27 00:00:52 <KRS1>	Holy shit maybe I shouldn't have fucked with him so much..a thousand dollars is a lot of loot lol
Apr 27 00:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	who's nadzerz
Apr 27 00:01:12 <KRS1>	apparently some noob
Apr 27 00:01:20 <KRS1>	he's in #mtgoxlive
Apr 27 00:01:33 <KRS1>	<KRS1> Definately sell.
Apr 27 00:01:33 <KRS1>	<KRS1> I mean buy!! Damnit sorry!
Apr 27 00:01:39 <KRS1>	oops :)
Apr 27 00:01:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269899 BTC [+]
Apr 27 00:02:00 <KRS1>	<KRS1> i just bought my first whole bitcoin today...SELL.
Apr 27 00:02:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.269999 = 2.54 BTC [+]
Apr 27 00:03:19 <jcpham>	so everyone sits in mtgoxlive and provides free armchair analysis
Apr 27 00:03:26 <jcpham>	that's neat
Apr 27 00:04:25 <mircea_popescu>	*valuable* free armchair analysis
Apr 27 00:05:00 <KRS1>	mine wasn't bad until i went back and forth too many times..if they rate in there i'm doomed
Apr 27 00:05:19 <KRS1>	so like..if i say BUY 5 times and SELL 3 times, you will know what to do: BUY of course.
Apr 27 00:05:46 <mircea_popescu>	lmao! random forum guy : "wow that was racist borring and full of shit" mpoe-pr : "You only think it's racist because your mother was a whore."
Apr 27 00:05:56 <KRS1>	i'm sure of myself after like 8 or 9 times looking at the ticker making a decision
Apr 27 00:06:10 <KRS1>	heh
Apr 27 00:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4611 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 00:15:43 <jborkl>	lol
Apr 27 00:15:54 <jborkl>	i love that lin
Apr 27 00:16:03 <jborkl>	line
Apr 27 00:16:14 <KRS1>	i like most lines
Apr 27 00:16:21 <jborkl>	i need to donate to pr just for the laugh
Apr 27 00:16:23 <KRS1>	o shit did i say that
Apr 27 00:17:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-]
Apr 27 00:17:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [-]
Apr 27 00:17:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 00:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4612 = 1.8448 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 00:29:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.23 = 2.46 BTC [+]
Apr 27 00:30:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5537 @ 0.000692 = 3.8316 BTC [-]
Apr 27 00:30:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00068754 = 2.7502 BTC [-]
Apr 27 00:30:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14 @ 0.00068584 = 0.0096 BTC [-]
Apr 27 00:30:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3286 @ 0.00068584 = 2.2537 BTC [-]
Apr 27 00:30:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3163 @ 0.00068583 = 2.1693 BTC [-]
Apr 27 00:33:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.22 = 2.44 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 00:45:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24989 BTC [+]
Apr 27 00:45:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.24999 = 3.75 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 00:46:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 00:59:33 <[\\\]>	mircea_popescu, how has your girl not ripped into this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187600
Apr 27 00:59:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2201 BTC [-]
Apr 27 00:59:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21012 BTC [-]
Apr 27 00:59:59 <mircea_popescu>	;;title
Apr 27 01:00:00 <gribble>	(title <url>) -- Returns the HTML <title>...</title> of a URL.
Apr 27 01:00:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187600
Apr 27 01:00:07 <gribble>	Butterfly Labs
Apr 27 01:00:16 <mircea_popescu>	kinda stale by now neh ?
Apr 27 01:01:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.201 = 6.005 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:01:43 <Chaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1957020#msg1957020   lol
Apr 27 01:01:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 01:03:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol whoops, smoothie caught on ?
Apr 27 01:04:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3985 @ 0.00068583 = 2.733 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:04:46 <Chaang-Noi>	after it was pointed out to him, but yes
Apr 27 01:05:04 <Chaang-Noi>	but the point is, if smoothie caught on, who can he trick?
Apr 27 01:05:08 <[\\\]>	whats up with this hashpack place?
Apr 27 01:05:15 <[\\\]>	do people not see it for the the ponzi it is?
Apr 27 01:05:27 <Chaang-Noi>	never heard of hashpack :/
Apr 27 01:06:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.19 = 9.52 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:06:36 <mircea_popescu>	hashpower you mean ?
Apr 27 01:07:07 <[\\\]>	no
Apr 27 01:07:09 <[\\\]>	hashpack
Apr 27 01:07:22 <[\\\]>	hashpack.com
Apr 27 01:07:25 <[\\\]>	err
Apr 27 01:07:25 <[\\\]>	no
Apr 27 01:07:30 <[\\\]>	lemme find it again
Apr 27 01:07:46 <[\\\]>	hashrack.com/hashpacks
Apr 27 01:08:15 <mircea_popescu>	um
Apr 27 01:08:18 <mircea_popescu>	needs moar hash
Apr 27 01:08:38 <mircea_popescu>	hash.ish/hashrack/hahspacks/hushhush
Apr 27 01:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	How much takes a hashpack to start mining?
Apr 27 01:09:25 <mircea_popescu>	This has variable timing, and it depends on different factors
Apr 27 01:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 27 01:11:00 <[\\\]>	lol
Apr 27 01:11:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.198 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:11:09 <[\\\]>	the broken english makes it more trustworthy
Apr 27 01:13:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.19 = 3.57 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:14:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.261 BTC [+]
Apr 27 01:15:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.261 = 2.522 BTC [+]
Apr 27 01:15:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2618 = 2.5236 BTC [+]
Apr 27 01:16:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2619 BTC [+]
Apr 27 01:17:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.262 BTC [+]
Apr 27 01:17:06 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 27 01:17:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 01:18:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2629 BTC [+]
Apr 27 01:19:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2629 BTC [+]
Apr 27 01:22:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.263 = 7.578 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 01:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4687 BTC [+]
Apr 27 01:31:06 <maximian>	Interesting… S.DICE is on track to earn 4000BTC (0.00004 BTC / share) this month, which roughly matches the earnings for October.
Apr 27 01:31:27 <maximian>	sorry, matches the earnings for November
Apr 27 01:31:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:32:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 01:33:31 <Chaang-Noi>	maximian i dont follow it well, is that good or bad ?
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Apr 27 01:34:17 <maximian>	I think it's good, especially considering that the BTC/USD price increased 10x since then
Apr 27 01:35:07 <maximian>	S.DICE profits seem to be fairly resistant to exchange rate fluctuations
Apr 27 01:35:17 <Chaang-Noi>	thats good for sdice
Apr 27 01:35:24 <maximian>	yep, quite good
Apr 27 01:35:30 <Chaang-Noi>	stock price is still too high for me to buy in
Apr 27 01:36:03 <maximian>	I think the price is low due to uncertainty
Apr 27 01:36:17 <Chaang-Noi>	i think its too high due to hype
Apr 27 01:36:21 <maximian>	ha
Apr 27 01:36:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2251 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:37:01 <Chaang-Noi>	AM now there is a undervalued stock:)
Apr 27 01:37:05 <maximian>	If it was clear that S.DICE would be around for 10 years, the price should probably be double or triple
Apr 27 01:37:11 <maximian>	AM is great for sure
Apr 27 01:38:37 <Chaang-Noi>	yes if sdice would be around for years then yeah
Apr 27 01:39:00 <Chaang-Noi>	honestly if they listed on an exchange where i could buy shares i would have bought a few when it was in the .2 range
Apr 27 01:39:35 <Chaang-Noi>	but they listed on an exchange that does not welcome users so lol. i dont have any high hopes for anything listed there
Apr 27 01:39:45 <Chaang-Noi>	and that is the only thing listed on that exchange right?
Apr 27 01:39:46 <maximian>	what about the passthroughs?
Apr 27 01:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4599 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:40:10 <maximian>	s.mpoe and s.bbet
Apr 27 01:40:11 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont like 4th party risk
Apr 27 01:40:27 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont even like 3rd party risk but maybe a bit is okay
Apr 27 01:40:30 <maximian>	s.mpoe is overvalued imo
Apr 27 01:40:38 <Chaang-Noi>	id like to buy directly from the company like asic miner did
Apr 27 01:41:02 <maximian>	yeah, probably not gonna be possible with s.dice
Apr 27 01:41:34 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah im not too bothered
Apr 27 01:41:48 <Chaang-Noi>	but if i could take out the 3rd party risk odds are id buy 1 percent just cause
Apr 27 01:42:07 <Chaang-Noi>	mpex pulls a glbse lulz
Apr 27 01:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4549 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:44:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2201 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:46:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2001 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:47:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4549 = 1.8196 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:51:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2593 = 2.5186 BTC [+]
Apr 27 01:59:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1901 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:59:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.181 = 12.991 BTC [-]
Apr 27 01:59:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18 BTC [-]
Apr 27 02:01:16 <toffoo>	so what would 1% of satoshi dice cost us?
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Apr 27 02:04:51 <Namworld>	Let's see
Apr 27 02:05:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2586 BTC [+]
Apr 27 02:06:19 <toffoo>	i'm still looking for shares issued/outstanding
Apr 27 02:09:01 <Namworld>	100'000'000 shares issued, less outstanding
Apr 27 02:09:18 <Namworld>	But dividends are divided by 100'000'000
Apr 27 02:09:27 <Namworld>	So you need 1 million shares
Apr 27 02:09:28 <Namworld>	So
Apr 27 02:09:37 <Namworld>	5763.76788875 BTC with current orderbook
Apr 27 02:10:08 <Namworld>	Hitting asks all the way up to 0.0064995 BTC per share
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Apr 27 02:11:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2496 @ 0.00068532 = 1.7106 BTC [-]
Apr 27 02:11:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2104 @ 0.000695 = 1.4623 BTC [+]
Apr 27 02:12:22 <toffoo>	right, seems the real answer isn't exactly straightforward ...
Apr 27 02:12:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i would have bought at ipo, not now at market lulz
Apr 27 02:13:06 <toffoo>	so they have 100 million shares, but IPOed just 10 million of them?
Apr 27 02:13:08 <Chaang-Noi>	id buy 1 percent now at .0002 or whatever if i could hold directly with the company
Apr 27 02:13:13 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Apr 27 02:13:17 <Chaang-Noi>	and sold off 3 later
Apr 27 02:13:21 <toffoo>	was there ever a secondary offering?
Apr 27 02:13:25 <Chaang-Noi>	i think it was mpex who sold his 10%
Apr 27 02:13:28 <Namworld>	Yes
Apr 27 02:13:29 <Chaang-Noi>	i mena mp
Apr 27 02:13:36 <Namworld>	But how much shares were sold doesn't matter
Apr 27 02:13:44 <Chaang-Noi>	he just got a free however many btc just for having it list onthe exchange
Apr 27 02:13:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think he held anything
Apr 27 02:13:51 <toffoo>	and like evoorhees owns the other 90% but can't sell or something?
Apr 27 02:13:58 <Chaang-Noi>	he sold 3%
Apr 27 02:14:08 <Chaang-Noi>	also its not just him, he has a silent partner
Apr 27 02:14:10 <Namworld>	He can
Apr 27 02:14:17 <Namworld>	Just not more than 50%
Apr 27 02:14:21 <Chaang-Noi>	and from what i under stand the silent guy ownes more then eric
Apr 27 02:14:24 <Namworld>	As per MPEx rules
Apr 27 02:14:29 <toffoo>	clear as gravy
Apr 27 02:14:43 <Namworld>	What does it matter?
Apr 27 02:14:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
Apr 27 02:14:45 <Chaang-Noi>	but yeah they cant just dump it all
Apr 27 02:15:02 <Chaang-Noi>	well i gota go see a man about a dog
Apr 27 02:15:03 <Chaang-Noi>	peace
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Apr 27 02:19:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1983 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 02:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4581 BTC [+]
Apr 27 02:22:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 5 @ 0.00199 = 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 27 02:23:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25767 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 02:31:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.1983 = 0.7932 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 02:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4611 BTC [+]
Apr 27 02:42:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [+]
Apr 27 02:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4611 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 02:49:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25716 BTC [-]
Apr 27 02:49:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25717 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 03:26:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2001 BTC [-]
Apr 27 03:26:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 04:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7051 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 04:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7899 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 04:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7053 BTC [-]
Apr 27 04:28:33 <jurov>	"Our MySQL server started to fail this night. We're migrating to postgres now, but this will take some time."
Apr 27 04:28:48 <jurov>	so full of win...no mention of mariadb?
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Apr 27 04:36:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
Apr 27 04:43:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.000695 = 11.1548 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 04:57:52 <TheTortoise>	hi
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Apr 27 05:01:30 <TheTortoise>	hi
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Apr 27 05:06:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5759 @ 0.000695 = 4.0025 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 05:15:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2532 BTC [-]
Apr 27 05:15:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 19 @ 0.003535 = 0.0672 BTC [+]
Apr 27 05:17:11 <BTCOxygen>	jurov: Hi.
Apr 27 05:17:22 <BTCOxygen>	jurov: Which webpage do you operate ?
Apr 27 05:17:34 <jurov>	BTCOxygen: coinbr.com
Apr 27 05:17:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2533 = 3.7599 BTC [+]
Apr 27 05:21:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.254 = 3.762 BTC [+]
Apr 27 05:22:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2564 BTC [+]
Apr 27 05:22:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 1.25799 = 20.1278 BTC [+]
Apr 27 05:25:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.258 = 2.516 BTC [+]
Apr 27 05:35:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.009998 = 0.08 BTC [+]
Apr 27 05:36:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00068661 = 3.639 BTC [-]
Apr 27 05:39:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2001 BTC [-]
Apr 27 05:40:42 <jurov>	btcoxygen, but that quote was from bitcoincharts
Apr 27 05:43:13 <BTCOxygen>	<jurov> "Our MySQL server started to fail this night. We're migrating to postgres now, but this will take some time."  ???
Apr 27 05:43:21 <BTCOxygen>	wasnt this from coinbr ?
Apr 27 05:43:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
Apr 27 05:46:03 <jurov>	no, from bitcoincharts :)
Apr 27 05:46:43 <jurov>	i hope something lame never comes off coinbr
Apr 27 05:46:51 <jurov>	*so lame
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Apr 27 05:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.30000001 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Apr 27 05:58:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.3 = 13.5 BTC [-]
Apr 27 06:01:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2579 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 06:28:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.101736 = 0.9156 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 06:36:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01629 = 0.1629 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 07:05:05 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 27 07:05:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.99931, Best ask: 136.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00069, Last trade: 135.99930, 24 hour volume: 56750.66339492, 24 hour low: 129.51001, 24 hour high: 139.20000, 24 hour vwap: 135.88419
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Apr 27 07:07:53 <mircea_popescu>	Our MySQL server started to fail this night. We're migrating to postgres now, but this will take some time.
Apr 27 07:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	sweet.
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Apr 27 07:19:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.258 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 07:28:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00069293 = 1.663 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 07:33:43 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker 487.54 * [ticker --last]
Apr 27 07:33:44 <gribble>	(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
Apr 27 07:33:51 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 487.54 * [ticker --last]
Apr 27 07:33:52 <gribble>	66524.6721118
Apr 27 07:33:54 <Diablo-D3>	durr hurr
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Apr 27 07:38:44 <Cylta>	why there is absolutely no options for sale\buy right now?
Apr 27 07:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta http://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/
Apr 27 07:40:34 <Cylta>	mircea_popescu: so, mpex.co need to have connection to bitcoincharts.com to func...
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Apr 27 07:40:53 <mircea_popescu>	no.
Apr 27 07:41:09 <mircea_popescu>	the options bot uses that feed to price options. if no feed, no offers.
Apr 27 07:41:20 <mircea_popescu>	you can still make your own, sell them, buy others' etc.
Apr 27 07:41:38 <Cylta>	ah, so there is nobody from alive users, who want to sell\buy options?
Apr 27 07:42:21 <mircea_popescu>	the new month just started like 12 hours ago or w/e, i guess nobody has made any yet.
Apr 27 07:43:22 <Cylta>	but there was N section (for next month), and they should be transported in T section... but okay, i get it.
Apr 27 07:46:37 <mircea_popescu>	Cylta the book gets cleared
Apr 27 07:51:01 <ColdHardMetal>	anyone know the average price bot command?
Apr 27 07:51:14 <kakobrekla>	$avg
Apr 27 07:51:15 <mpexbot>	kakobrekla: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 27 07:51:21 <kakobrekla>	aa
Apr 27 07:51:31 <kakobrekla>	trap.
Apr 27 07:51:32 <ColdHardMetal>	feed down maybe?
Apr 27 07:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	scam
Apr 27 07:51:50 <kakobrekla>	milk
Apr 27 07:51:56 <mircea_popescu>	silk!
Apr 27 07:52:04 <ColdHardMetal>	when working, how is that calculated?
Apr 27 07:52:18 <mircea_popescu>	vwap of all trades past 24 hours across exchanges
Apr 27 07:52:54 <ColdHardMetal>	all exchanges or a selection?
Apr 27 07:53:16 <Cylta>	and if selection, then which of them
Apr 27 07:53:45 <pizzaman1337>	I'd assume from everything they connect too, you can see their list when they're back up
Apr 27 07:53:51 <ColdHardMetal>	is in channel the only place to get the stat or is it posted somewhere?
Apr 27 07:54:01 <pizzaman1337>	it's posted on the bitcoincharts site
Apr 27 07:54:18 <ColdHardMetal>	oh yeah? hadn't noticed it before.
Apr 27 07:54:20 <pizzaman1337>	normally it's this page: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/
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Apr 27 07:55:01 <ColdHardMetal>	ok, cool. thanks all.
Apr 27 07:55:28 <mircea_popescu>	ColdHardMetal its the http://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/ this feed
Apr 27 07:56:17 <ColdHardMetal>	mp: looks like I'll need to take your word for it for awhile :)
Apr 27 07:57:29 <pizzaman1337>	you can just look at the google cache, http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ub2mLFjMpIwJ:bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk
Apr 27 07:58:03 <mircea_popescu>	ColdHardMetal it's tctm's service you can prolly bug him
Apr 27 07:58:13 <mircea_popescu>	you know each other neh ?
Apr 27 07:58:31 <ColdHardMetal>	to a degree, yes.
Apr 27 07:59:05 <mircea_popescu>	tcatm*
Apr 27 08:09:54 <mircea_popescu>	check this out : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2mdYX1nF_Y
Apr 27 08:10:09 <mircea_popescu>	in 1999 milton friedman describes bitcoin as a future certainty
Apr 27 08:10:16 <mircea_popescu>	(he doesn't call it bitcoin of course)
Apr 27 08:13:43 <kakobrekla>	awww
Apr 27 08:13:48 <kakobrekla>	send him a coin
Apr 27 08:14:02 <Diablo-D3>	erm
Apr 27 08:14:13 <mircea_popescu>	he died
Apr 27 08:14:15 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: but isnt cryptomicon older than that?
Apr 27 08:14:38 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 afaik that's 2000
Apr 27 08:14:54 <Diablo-D3>	WIKIPEDIA, LAAAAAAUNCH!
Apr 27 08:15:03 <mircea_popescu>	not trying to say he invented it or anything.
Apr 27 08:15:14 <Diablo-D3>	nope, 1999.
Apr 27 08:15:15 <Diablo-D3>	heh.
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Apr 27 08:15:35 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: no, but I keep thinking of some sort of mathematical currency thats older than this
Apr 27 08:15:45 <Diablo-D3>	but I can never quite remember what it is
Apr 27 08:16:21 <mircea_popescu>	see ? misterycoin
Apr 27 08:16:32 <mircea_popescu>	nobody can remember it ever. a little problematic for brain wallets.
Apr 27 08:16:56 <Diablo-D3>	no, its something I read like 20 years ago
Apr 27 08:17:44 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188516.msg1958615#msg1958615
Apr 27 08:21:49 <kakobrekla>	meh
Apr 27 08:21:52 <kakobrekla>	such a sisyphus job
Apr 27 08:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	the drama that backs our bitcoinz
Apr 27 08:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.3 = 7.2 BTC [-]
Apr 27 08:23:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/thumb/136706164156s.jpg bwahahaha
Apr 27 08:23:51 <mircea_popescu>	who dunnit ?
Apr 27 08:24:48 <Diablo-D3>	er
Apr 27 08:24:56 <Diablo-D3>	thats the thumbnail, jackass
Apr 27 08:25:04 <mircea_popescu>	lol oops
Apr 27 08:25:11 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136706164156.jpg
Apr 27 08:26:05 <kakobrekla>	but but supernode 1.5!
Apr 27 08:26:17 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I have no clue what that image means
Apr 27 08:26:27 <mircea_popescu>	o you're behind your drama /
Apr 27 08:26:36 <mircea_popescu>	there's this slightly weird finish guy
Apr 27 08:27:16 <Diablo-D3>	*finnish
Apr 27 08:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	people like smoothie and goat have been milking *him* for lulz all over the forum.
Apr 27 08:27:40 <mircea_popescu>	think! smoothie now has his own lolcow.
Apr 27 08:27:50 <Diablo-D3>	and this is why I dont read the forums often
Apr 27 08:29:27 <mircea_popescu>	i doubt anyone reads th forums anymore
Apr 27 08:29:29 <mircea_popescu>	people just post
Apr 27 08:33:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 08:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 08:49:33 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1958908#msg1958908
Apr 27 08:49:36 <kakobrekla>	O_O
Apr 27 08:49:45 <kakobrekla>	this shit continiues to amaze me
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Apr 27 08:51:49 <truffles>	some people know how to ruin a potentially good comedic thread
Apr 27 08:54:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.0099 = 0.0495 BTC [-]
Apr 27 08:54:50 <kakobrekla>	we have a selloff
Apr 27 08:55:48 <Cylta>	922btc at once. not so much
Apr 27 08:58:49 <kakobrekla>	ok this is just silly
Apr 27 09:00:46 <kakobrekla>	2k sell to 130 and after that, 2k buy to 140
Apr 27 09:01:05 <kakobrekla>	maybe someone put order in the wrong box
Apr 27 09:03:48 <Cylta>	or it's his way to make a donation to poor traders =)
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Apr 27 09:05:09 <truffles>	or a really rich person is in the fold
Apr 27 09:05:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8154 @ 0.00069293 = 5.6502 BTC [+]
Apr 27 09:05:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1546 @ 0.000695 = 1.0745 BTC [+]
Apr 27 09:05:51 <jimbo2k>	hey why is nobody trading on mtgox right now?
Apr 27 09:05:55 <jimbo2k>	why the silence?
Apr 27 09:06:20 <kakobrekla>	what silence
Apr 27 09:11:21 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/04/26/business-bitcoin-tax.htm
Apr 27 09:11:24 <Diablo-D3>	;;ticker
Apr 27 09:11:25 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.50040, Best ask: 133.99027, Bid-ask spread: 0.48987, Last trade: 133.50030, 24 hour volume: 50817.48210313, 24 hour low: 131.00210, 24 hour high: 139.88000, 24 hour vwap: 135.92900
Apr 27 09:14:48 <unbalanced_>	No surprise there, these are not new rules. Nice to get an opinion from the CRA them though so people needn't stay away from Bitcoin due to FUD.
Apr 27 09:15:46 <mircea_popescu>	indeed, a news piece which basically says, when it rains outside use umbrella.
Apr 27 09:16:11 <unbalanced_>	Right, Canadians trading anything for anything else are supposed to pay tax on exchanges and on gains.
Apr 27 09:16:16 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00068661 = 2.9181 BTC [-]
Apr 27 09:16:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7585 @ 0.00068476 = 5.1939 BTC [-]
Apr 27 09:16:42 <unbalanced_>	I'm just grateful no one is talking about *new* laws to add another layer of cruft to the legal and tax system.
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Apr 27 09:17:16 <mircea_popescu>	don't worry, it;'s coming
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Apr 27 09:17:52 <unbalanced_>	No doubt
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Apr 27 09:21:55 <KRS1>	so how can they tax btc? are they going to fork the blockchain or something
Apr 27 09:23:05 <KRS1>	at the exchange
Apr 27 09:27:39 <Anduck>	kakobrekla lol
Apr 27 09:27:41 <copumpkin>	they'd rely on you reporting things, probably
Apr 27 09:27:46 <copumpkin>	much as they do now
Apr 27 09:28:01 <unbalanced_>	2 parts: 1, a capital gains tax on trading gains and 2, a VAT (called GST or HST in most of Canada) if you sell goods/services for bitcoin
Apr 27 09:28:16 <unbalanced_>	But yes, you have to report it yourself.
Apr 27 09:28:35 <tiberiusiv>	why is no one discussing mircea_popescu the gypsys second large monthly loss
Apr 27 09:28:52 <unbalanced_>	So some people won't, and "legitimate" businesses will
Apr 27 09:28:57 <unbalanced_>	shut up
Apr 27 09:29:00 <unbalanced_>	:)
Apr 27 09:29:11 <unbalanced_>	I think you popped in out of nowhere to say that to me once.
Apr 27 09:30:28 <tiberiusiv>	why dont you shutup over capital gains tax
Apr 27 09:30:38 <unbalanced_>	I fig'd I'd ignore you then but couldn't resist. Added a smiley so you know I'm not a deliberate asshole.
Apr 27 09:30:43 <tiberiusiv>	of course if you are selling btc on canadian exchanges and deposting large $
Apr 27 09:30:52 <tiberiusiv>	into your bank account its taxable
Apr 27 09:30:54 <tiberiusiv>	fking toolbag
Apr 27 09:31:15 <KRS1>	the exchanges could report your $ much the same way that banks can
Apr 27 09:31:18 <tiberiusiv>	same in US and in any other region that has cap gains
Apr 27 09:31:35 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin is easy as fuck to tax.
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Apr 27 09:31:49 <unbalanced_>	Before I go back to ignoring you, yes, taxes would apply on CAD equivalent just as they would for any other currency or commodity or local funny money. Old rules, nothing new.
Apr 27 09:31:50 <tiberiusiv>	your exchange buys and sells are all auditable
Apr 27 09:32:08 <KRS1>	unbalanced has the ticket
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Apr 27 09:32:41 <tiberiusiv>	mircea popescu has delivered another massive loss to his investors
Apr 27 09:33:06 <tiberiusiv>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-april-2013-statement/
Apr 27 09:35:00 <Cylta>	wooow...
Apr 27 09:36:56 <tiberiusiv>	In closing, I want to say that the bleeding red in the bondholders table makes me sad. It’s the people providing the capital for MPOE bonds that are helping stabilise Bitcoin. It’s them making it useful and usable.
Apr 27 09:37:00 <tiberiusiv>	this is the best part
Apr 27 09:37:13 <tiberiusiv>	people losing huge $ are doing their part in stabalising bitcoin.
Apr 27 09:37:14 <tiberiusiv>	rofl
Apr 27 09:37:46 <Cylta>	what does it mean, if bondholder crossed with a red line?
Apr 27 09:37:55 <tiberiusiv>	probably wiped out
Apr 27 09:38:16 <Cylta>	in meaning "they sold their assets" or "they are blocked"?..
Apr 27 09:39:00 <tiberiusiv>	i predicted in here 4 weeks ago that mircea would have another massive losing month
Apr 27 09:39:02 <tiberiusiv>	nobody believed it
Apr 27 09:39:28 <Cylta>	open your magazine with predictions =)
Apr 27 09:39:39 <tiberiusiv>	how many more losses with mircea inflict on his greedy investors?
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Apr 27 09:41:36 <tiberiusiv>	will*
Apr 27 09:41:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.249 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 09:43:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.255 = 2.51 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 09:45:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [+]
Apr 27 09:45:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.249 = 14.988 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 09:48:32 <KRS1>	tiberiusiv: what are they doing? trading really close to the highs and lows?
Apr 27 09:48:45 <tiberiusiv>	who?
Apr 27 09:48:56 <tiberiusiv>	no they lent mircea money
Apr 27 09:49:00 <KRS1>	you said that people are losing huge stabilizing btc
Apr 27 09:49:03 <tiberiusiv>	which he uses to sell insurance
Apr 27 09:49:11 <tiberiusiv>	against bitcoin volatility
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Apr 27 09:49:26 <tiberiusiv>	his losses relative to his income are massive
Apr 27 09:49:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4232 BTC [+]
Apr 27 09:49:43 <tiberiusiv>	i believe in the last 60 days mircea popescu the gypsy scum has lost over 30,000 btc
Apr 27 09:49:55 <KRS1>	but something tells me he really doesnt lose anything
Apr 27 09:50:06 <tiberiusiv>	well hes a fraud
Apr 27 09:50:10 <tiberiusiv>	so you are probably correct
Apr 27 09:50:19 <KRS1>	:/
Apr 27 09:51:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.249 BTC [-]
Apr 27 09:51:27 <KRS1>	theres a long stretch between being a fraud and supplying a service (middleman) that you collect a small fee here and there for
Apr 27 09:54:23 <tiberiusiv>	you just said he wasnt taking losses
Apr 27 09:54:27 <tiberiusiv>	so you were implying hes lieing
Apr 27 09:54:45 <tiberiusiv>	which one is it?
Apr 27 10:01:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.198 = 0.99 BTC [-]
Apr 27 10:04:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00353 = 0.0353 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 10:08:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 45 @ 0.003535 = 0.1591 BTC [+]
Apr 27 10:09:59 <ThickAsThieves>	any reason why bot isnt selling?
Apr 27 10:10:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00188 BTC [+]
Apr 27 10:10:15 <ThickAsThieves>	(optobot)
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Apr 27 10:13:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.2514 = 5.0056 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 10:17:48 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4841 @ 0.00068476 = 3.3149 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 10:21:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2592 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 10:25:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [-]
Apr 27 10:26:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.24999 = 8.7499 BTC [-]
Apr 27 10:28:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00320485 = 1.6024 BTC [+]
Apr 27 10:31:22 <KRS1>	tiberiusiv: you are somethin else dude..im not even gonna bother
Apr 27 10:31:56 <KRS1>	i'd stop with whatever drugs you're takin man..
Apr 27 10:32:00 <KRS1>	try something else
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Apr 27 10:36:50 <tiberiusiv>	thickasthieves um maybe because of huge losses taken by mircea last month?
Apr 27 10:37:22 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 27 10:37:26 <gribble>	There are currently 164387.58 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14228097.6008 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0096 seconds
Apr 27 10:37:31 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 27 10:37:32 <gribble>	There are currently 72755.388 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 12189626.4661 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.3651 seconds
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Apr 27 10:58:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2474 BTC [-]
Apr 27 11:05:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
Apr 27 11:05:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2555 BTC [+]
Apr 27 11:05:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.2592 = 10.0736 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 11:31:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 11:32:23 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 27 11:32:24 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.02020, Best ask: 134.56000, Bid-ask spread: 0.53980, Last trade: 134.02020, 24 hour volume: 44677.75219501, 24 hour low: 131.00210, 24 hour high: 139.88000, 24 hour vwap: 135.74475
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Apr 27 11:48:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 22 @ 0.00489 = 0.1076 BTC [+]
Apr 27 11:48:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0337 BTC [+]
Apr 27 11:51:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000695 = 0.0348 BTC [+]
Apr 27 11:51:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000695 = 0.0209 BTC [+]
Apr 27 11:51:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.000695 = 0.0063 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 11:59:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000696 = 0.0348 BTC [+]
Apr 27 11:59:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 12 @ 0.1983 = 2.3796 BTC [+]
Apr 27 12:00:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 80 @ 0.000696 = 0.0557 BTC [+]
Apr 27 12:02:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.254 BTC [+]
Apr 27 12:10:38 <thestringpuller>	;;bids
Apr 27 12:10:38 <gribble>	(bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
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Apr 27 12:27:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 2 @ 0.00111 = 0.0022 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 12:31:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000696 = 0.007 BTC [+]
Apr 27 12:32:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.231 BTC [-]
Apr 27 12:32:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2302 BTC [-]
Apr 27 12:32:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2301 = 2.4602 BTC [-]
Apr 27 12:38:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2201 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 12:39:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21011 BTC [-]
Apr 27 12:40:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00069357 = 3.0517 BTC [+]
Apr 27 12:40:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2012 BTC [-]
Apr 27 12:43:31 <mod6>	hey whats up
Apr 27 12:45:47 <peterl>	did mpoe pay their dividend yet for april?
Apr 27 12:46:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00069357 = 0.7629 BTC [+]
Apr 27 12:46:05 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3765 @ 0.00069724 = 2.6251 BTC [+]
Apr 27 12:46:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1685 @ 0.00069796 = 1.1761 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 12:49:43 <mod6>	peterl: not yet
Apr 27 12:49:53 <mod6>	the monthly statement is out though...
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Apr 27 12:51:07 <Bugpowder>	Hmmm.... gox queue down to 15,000
Apr 27 12:53:16 <peterl>	maybe people are trying to use other exchanges?
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Apr 27 12:54:29 <kakobrekla>	oh
Apr 27 12:54:35 <kakobrekla>	so they stopped de-amling ppl
Apr 27 12:55:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [+]
Apr 27 12:55:10 <Bugpowder>	my friend has been trading ~500BTC on there with no verification
Apr 27 12:55:20 <Bugpowder>	they decided he needed to be verified to do that
Apr 27 12:55:26 <Bugpowder>	he is 15,000 now
Apr 27 12:55:32 <kakobrekla>	hm
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Apr 27 12:57:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0163 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 13:08:01 <mod6>	(05:09) < mircea_popescu> check this out : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2mdYX1nF_Y <<< Thanks for posting this Milton Friedman vid!
Apr 27 13:08:14 <mod6>	so awesome
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Apr 27 13:27:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00069796 = 4.6065 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 13:34:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.238 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 13:34:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.239 BTC [+]
Apr 27 13:35:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.23955 = 2.4791 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 13:40:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000642 = 0.0642 BTC [-]
Apr 27 13:41:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000642 = 0.0032 BTC [-]
Apr 27 13:41:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 13:41:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 124 @ 0.000641 = 0.0795 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 13:55:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 32 @ 0.003545 = 0.1134 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 13:59:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 32 @ 0.00355 = 0.1136 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 14:17:17 <jurov>	lol reptilia wants to outdo mp... by posting pics of girls? hahahaha
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Apr 27 14:28:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2151 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 14:34:09 <jurov>	$avg
Apr 27 14:34:11 <mpexbot>	jurov: 133.77
Apr 27 14:34:15 <jurov>	mircea_popescu: something happening? no bond/dividend payouts, mpoe bot absent despite bitcoincharts is online?
Apr 27 14:35:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.003 = 9 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 14:36:47 <deadweasel>	That milton friedman video is the tits
Apr 27 14:36:48 <deadweasel>	thanks
Apr 27 14:37:25 <deadweasel>	mod6^
Apr 27 14:37:32 <deadweasel>	or mp
Apr 27 14:39:44 <mod6>	ahh, werd. mp posted it. :]
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Apr 27 14:45:39 *	mod6 installs world
Apr 27 14:46:53 <Bugpowder>	jurov: MPOE bot's algo was changed.  Now it only tries to undercut existing bids ;-)
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Apr 27 14:49:00 <jurov>	heh
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Apr 27 14:49:16 <deadweasel>	$avg
Apr 27 14:49:17 <mpexbot>	deadweasel: 133.71
Apr 27 14:57:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2554 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 14:59:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2555 BTC [+]
Apr 27 15:00:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00983 = 0.0197 BTC [-]
Apr 27 15:00:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2555 BTC [+]
Apr 27 15:00:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 30 @ 0.00982 = 0.2946 BTC [-]
Apr 27 15:01:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00982 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 15:01:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.249 BTC [+]
Apr 27 15:03:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]
Apr 27 15:04:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00981 = 0.0981 BTC [-]
Apr 27 15:05:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.33998 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 15:07:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009999 = 0.03 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 15:11:13 <jurov>	;;bc,stats
Apr 27 15:11:16 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233446 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 409 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 13 hours, 44 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9932920.63166 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.68189
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Apr 27 15:14:20 <usagi>	hi guys
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Apr 27 15:24:18 *	[\\\] is now known as foggyd
Apr 27 15:25:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [+]
Apr 27 15:25:04 *	foggyd is now known as foggyb`
Apr 27 15:25:14 *	foggyb` is now known as [\\\]
Apr 27 15:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7201 BTC [+]
Apr 27 15:30:33 <jurov>	;;gettrust aethero
Apr 27 15:30:33 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user jurov to user aethero: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=jurov&dest=aethero
Apr 27 15:33:06 <usagi>	lol @ supa http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=usagi&dest=aethero
Apr 27 15:42:19 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188546.0 lol the hunt for satoshi signature
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Apr 27 15:46:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 15:50:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 465 @ 0.00069796 = 0.3246 BTC [+]
Apr 27 15:50:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00069909 = 2.7964 BTC [+]
Apr 27 15:51:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 635 @ 0.0006991 = 0.4439 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 15:54:50 <thestringpuller>	;;asks 139
Apr 27 15:54:51 <gribble>	There are currently 8802.0334 bitcoins offered at or under 139.0 USD, worth 1180181.77601 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1.6649 seconds
Apr 27 15:55:01 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 27 15:55:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.00000, Best ask: 126.01001, Bid-ask spread: 0.01001, Last trade: 126.00000, 24 hour volume: 55701.10914739, 24 hour low: 124.03000, 24 hour high: 139.88000, 24 hour vwap: 133.15565
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Apr 27 15:56:51 <thestringpuller>	PANIC SELL
Apr 27 15:56:53 <thestringpuller>	PANIC SELL
Apr 27 15:57:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4199 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 15:58:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [+]
Apr 27 15:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4611 BTC [-]
Apr 27 16:00:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2591 BTC [+]
Apr 27 16:00:41 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 27 16:00:42 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.00010, Best ask: 127.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.98990, Last trade: 127.99000, 24 hour volume: 56522.23429988, 24 hour low: 124.03000, 24 hour high: 139.88000, 24 hour vwap: 133.02704
Apr 27 16:00:51 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 27 16:00:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.90327, Best ask: 127.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07673, Last trade: 127.98000, 24 hour volume: 56569.11167357, 24 hour low: 124.03000, 24 hour high: 139.88000, 24 hour vwap: 133.02114
Apr 27 16:01:17 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 27 16:01:18 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.31197, Best ask: 132.49000, Bid-ask spread: 1.17803, Last trade: 132.49000, 24 hour volume: 56569.11167357, 24 hour low: 124.03000, 24 hour high: 139.88000, 24 hour vwap: 133.02114
Apr 27 16:01:36 <error4733>	PANIC BUY
Apr 27 16:01:39 <error4733>	PANIC BUY
Apr 27 16:02:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2592 = 2.5184 BTC [+]
Apr 27 16:04:21 <jurov>	anyone would like to bet how much this auction ends up? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186198.20
Apr 27 16:05:42 <jurov>	seems casacius 1st series price is lifting off
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Apr 27 16:08:22 <error4733>	120-150
Apr 27 16:09:16 <jurov>	that would be quite a madness
Apr 27 16:10:28 <error4733>	4/5 each ? easy ! its 900$ on ebay
Apr 27 16:12:24 <jurov>	i just bought one for 2.75 on bitmit... got good deal then
Apr 27 16:12:29 <error4733>	try to imagine same suppl but with 10x more collector
Apr 27 16:12:45 <error4733>	in 2/3 years
Apr 27 16:12:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222201 BTC [-]
Apr 27 16:12:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222101 BTC [-]
Apr 27 16:12:56 <jurov>	in 2/3 years, yea
Apr 27 16:13:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222 BTC [-]
Apr 27 16:13:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.215 BTC [-]
Apr 27 16:13:38 <error4733>	or maybe its a scam bc with bct @1000$ no one would pay x5 premium
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Apr 27 16:14:23 <error4733>	2.75 it's a good deal yep. Serie 1 ?
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Apr 27 16:14:46 <jurov>	should be, wolf is reputable.. we'll see what comes
Apr 27 16:15:29 <error4733>	not a scam now
Apr 27 16:15:33 <KRS1>	lol i knew it would come down
Apr 27 16:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4776 BTC [+]
Apr 27 16:20:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00188 = 0.0188 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 16:23:33 <inhies>	i have two series 1
Apr 27 16:23:35 <inhies>	from september
Apr 27 16:23:39 <inhies>	considering selling one
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Apr 27 16:39:32 <jurov>	lmao some swiss bank trollbox: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=182423.msg1958956#msg1958956
Apr 27 16:40:19 <SlipperySlope>	jurov, when do you expect MPOE bond payout?
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Apr 27 16:44:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.237 BTC [+]
Apr 27 16:45:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.239 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 16:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30000001 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 16:57:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2592 BTC [+]
Apr 27 16:57:31 <jurov>	SlipperySlope, don't know. I was asking mp here awhile ago, no reply yet.
Apr 27 16:57:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2592 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 17:02:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1975 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 17:07:34 <jurov>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 27 17:07:34 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 50 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> don't worry, it;'s coming
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Apr 27 17:10:40 <KRS1>	whats coming
Apr 27 17:10:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.238 BTC [-]
Apr 27 17:12:15 <jurov>	KRS1, read 10 lines back
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Apr 27 17:13:35 <jurov>	cnat raed ... better crawl back to #bitcoin-anal
Apr 27 17:14:36 <jurov>	(my apologies if KRS-1 is someone else)
Apr 27 17:15:50 <jurov>	;)
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Apr 27 17:19:13 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 27 17:19:16 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233461 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 394 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 14 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9935074.73308 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.7059
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Apr 27 17:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.30000001 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Apr 27 17:42:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4571 BTC [-]
Apr 27 17:42:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.176101 BTC [-]
Apr 27 17:43:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1761 BTC [-]
Apr 27 17:44:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17602 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 17:48:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 17:52:32 <mjr___>	hi all
Apr 27 17:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4571 = 1.8284 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 18:01:44 <jurov>	hi mjr___
Apr 27 18:02:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00311 = 0.1244 BTC [-]
Apr 27 18:02:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0031 = 0.0062 BTC [-]
Apr 27 18:03:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0031 BTC [-]
Apr 27 18:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4679 = 0.9358 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 18:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4679 = 3.2753 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 18:28:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00068812 = 4.2663 BTC [-]
Apr 27 18:28:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00068289 = 1.5706 BTC [-]
Apr 27 18:28:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00068967 = 1.0345 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 18:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.477999 BTC [+]
Apr 27 18:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4641 BTC [-]
Apr 27 18:41:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2241 BTC [-]
Apr 27 18:43:22 <mjr___>	geez its hard to get bitcoins or sell bitcoins
Apr 27 18:43:50 <mod6>	can't just do an otc trade with someone?
Apr 27 18:44:51 <mjr___>	tough
Apr 27 18:44:58 <mjr___>	$20,000 USD in cash
Apr 27 18:45:16 <mjr___>	not easy to make that happen in one day
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Apr 27 18:45:22 <mjr___>	gox verification queue
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Apr 27 18:45:28 <mjr___>	limits on bitinstant
Apr 27 18:45:47 <mjr___>	what is the best escrow service?
Apr 27 18:46:10 <mod6>	not sure, could ask around in #bitcoin-escrow ?
Apr 27 18:46:33 <joecool>	!ident mjr___
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Apr 27 18:46:36 <joecool>	..ident mjr___
Apr 27 18:46:42 <joecool>	meh
Apr 27 18:46:45 <joecool>	;;ident mjr___
Apr 27 18:46:45 <gribble>	Nick 'mjr___', with hostmask 'mjr___!mjr_@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
Apr 27 18:46:48 <mjr___>	;;ident mjr_
Apr 27 18:46:49 <gribble>	Nick 'mjr_', with hostmask 'MJR_!~mjr_@72.5.43.201', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
Apr 27 18:47:13 <mjr___>	that's me
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Apr 27 18:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4641 = 3.2487 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 18:58:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-]
Apr 27 18:58:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 19:01:30 <ThickAsThieves>	Is mpexbot selling options yet?
Apr 27 19:01:55 <mod6>	not yet
Apr 27 19:02:48 <ThickAsThieves>	is there a problem or just waiting til Monday or such?
Apr 27 19:04:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7330 @ 0.00068967 = 5.0553 BTC [+]
Apr 27 19:04:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1874 @ 0.00069036 = 1.2937 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 19:05:45 <mod6>	ThickAsThieves: no idea
Apr 27 19:06:16 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
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Apr 27 19:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4778 = 3.8224 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 19:16:27 <dub>	 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187730.msg1947140#msg1947140
Apr 27 19:16:37 <dub>	obvious usagi sock is obvious
Apr 27 19:18:01 <nospinzy>	what would be a good start up
Apr 27 19:32:21 <ThickAsThieves>	Groupon
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Apr 27 19:33:34 <mod6>	lol
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Apr 27 19:35:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20296 BTC [-]
Apr 27 19:35:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20295 BTC [-]
Apr 27 19:35:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20241 BTC [-]
Apr 27 19:35:52 <ThickAsThieves>	love me some daily deals!
Apr 27 19:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4778 BTC [+]
Apr 27 19:36:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8476 @ 0.00069036 = 5.8515 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 19:38:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2021 BTC [-]
Apr 27 19:38:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.202 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 19:51:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2031 BTC [+]
Apr 27 19:51:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.203 BTC [-]
Apr 27 19:54:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4715 @ 0.0006991 = 3.2963 BTC [+]
Apr 27 19:54:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1885 @ 0.00069922 = 1.318 BTC [+]
Apr 27 19:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4778 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 20:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.210001 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 20:12:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.237 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:13:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2497 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 20:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	whoa the miracle
Apr 27 20:14:37 <mircea_popescu>	jurov well the idea is i publish friday pay next day in case there's errors found or anything.
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Apr 27 20:15:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00069922 = 1.5033 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 20:15:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2497 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:16:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.2497 = 11.2473 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 20:16:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2498 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:17:00 <mircea_popescu>	so anyone know this Priambelenge guy /
Apr 27 20:17:15 <jcpham>	nope
Apr 27 20:17:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.249899 = 7.4994 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:17:31 <jcpham>	i noticed that retarded thread is still going though
Apr 27 20:17:37 <jcpham>	that guy and his diary
Apr 27 20:18:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2201 BTC [-]
Apr 27 20:18:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.22 = 30.5 BTC [-]
Apr 27 20:18:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 20:19:02 <mircea_popescu>	ya this guy is like, hi i'm organising an event we will have hedge funds would you like to speak. then he leaves.
Apr 27 20:19:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.263 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:19:15 <mircea_popescu>	i'm like... ok. so if i want to speak what do i do, send a message to your webchat ip ?
Apr 27 20:19:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.263 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:20:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:20:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 35 @ 0.198 = 6.93 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:20:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:22:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.201 BTC [-]
Apr 27 20:22:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.2 = 36 BTC [-]
Apr 27 20:24:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20101 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 20:27:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25899 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:28:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C320T] 20 @ 0.05733111 = 1.1466 BTC
Apr 27 20:30:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.33998 BTC [-]
Apr 27 20:30:03 <Namworld>	C320? I can sell some of those anytime...
Apr 27 20:30:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 6 @ 0.33999 = 2.0399 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 20:30:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.34 = 1.7 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:31:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.33999 BTC [-]
Apr 27 20:31:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.36879 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:32:45 <mircea_popescu>	lol so offer for less than 5 cents
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Apr 27 20:39:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P056T] 50 @ 0.05154951 = 2.5775 BTC
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Apr 27 20:41:59 <mircea_popescu>	!t ^oix
Apr 27 20:42:00 <assbot>	Your actions are useless.
Apr 27 20:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	!t , ^oix
Apr 27 20:42:04 <assbot>	Have you got any tobacco?
Apr 27 20:42:06 <mircea_popescu>	!t m ^oix
Apr 27 20:42:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.25474403 / 53.25474403 /  (50 shares, 2.58 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 27 20:42:13 <mircea_popescu>	sooo... it's back. lol
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Apr 27 20:44:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C260T] 20 @ 0.09950213 = 1.99 BTC [-]
Apr 27 20:45:38 <mircea_popescu>	!t m ^oix
Apr 27 20:45:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.25474403 / 141.37575896 / 339.46171704 (70 shares, 3.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 27 20:45:50 <mircea_popescu>	and also balanced now.
Apr 27 20:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.477999 = 7.17 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:47:38 <mircea_popescu>	mod6 was pretty cool vid fo sho.
Apr 27 20:47:55 <mircea_popescu>	<jurov> lol reptilia wants to outdo mp... by posting pics of girls? hahahaha << that thread is epic.
Apr 27 20:49:20 <mircea_popescu>	SlipperySlope the way this works is, mpoe results are published the weekend after close. i usually try and so far have managed to publish within 1-2 hours of actual close.
Apr 27 20:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	then the results sit for a day, if anyone finds errors or has q's or w/e.
Apr 27 20:49:37 <mircea_popescu>	then payments are made.
Apr 27 20:50:00 <mircea_popescu>	so reasonably anyone depending on mpoe payouts on the end of a month would be making payments no sooner than 24 hours after results published.
Apr 27 20:50:36 <mircea_popescu>	<ThickAsThieves> is there a problem or just waiting til Monday or such? << bitcoincharts was migrating servers or w/e
Apr 27 20:51:11 <mircea_popescu>	</end of me talking to myself> lol
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Apr 27 20:52:00 <mircea_popescu>	o, almost forgot.
Apr 27 20:52:06 <mircea_popescu>	new gf ---> http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136667488555.jpg
Apr 27 20:53:14 <truffles>	half the skirt is missing
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Apr 27 20:58:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
Apr 27 20:58:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 16 @ 0.009999 = 0.16 BTC [+]
Apr 27 21:02:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5465 @ 0.00069922 = 3.8212 BTC [+]
Apr 27 21:02:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00070335 = 3.3057 BTC [+]
Apr 27 21:13:11 <kakobrekla>	OUCH
Apr 27 21:13:13 <kakobrekla>	http://www.bloomberg.com/video/seeing-huge-increase-in-bitcoin-customers-karpeles-xsmrZuQxQ2CIkPQoeeDJsA.html
Apr 27 21:14:27 <mircea_popescu>	he's lieing.
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Apr 27 21:16:06 <kakobrekla>	on which part
Apr 27 21:16:18 <kakobrekla>	did you see this vid?
Apr 27 21:16:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00302 = 0.0453 BTC [-]
Apr 27 21:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	on the "moar customers" opart.
Apr 27 21:19:06 <KRS1>	wtf he can't talk or is something stuck up his ass
Apr 27 21:19:38 <usagi>	For bloomberg TV he was the wrong person to put on I think
Apr 27 21:19:47 <usagi>	without a rehersal
Apr 27 21:20:02 <ThickAsThieves>	thx for the deets mp
Apr 27 21:20:05 <KRS1>	my gawd shes gorgeous
Apr 27 21:20:36 <KRS1>	without even looking at her face lol
Apr 27 21:21:00 <usagi>	I'm really suprised they would put him on live, having done TV a few times. They don't do that ever.
Apr 27 21:21:34 <mircea_popescu>	who ?
Apr 27 21:21:54 <KRS1>	what is wrong with this dude..what a horrible representation for the exchange
Apr 27 21:21:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.003019 = 0.0906 BTC [-]
Apr 27 21:22:35 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189093.0
Apr 27 21:22:40 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin24 actually being prosecuted.
Apr 27 21:22:57 <mircea_popescu>	KRS1 no, actually, i think he's the perfect image of mtgox
Apr 27 21:23:00 <mircea_popescu>	bloated stupid shit.
Apr 27 21:23:51 <KRS1>	haha yeah guess you are right..im not impressed with the exchange at all..imo i'd rather have something on a console that actually works instead of something that renders pretty in a browser that doesnt
Apr 27 21:24:18 <KRS1>	console/terminal
Apr 27 21:25:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0163 = 0.1304 BTC [+]
Apr 27 21:28:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.264 BTC [+]
Apr 27 21:34:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 21:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4512 BTC [-]
Apr 27 21:54:55 <ColdHardMetal>	that BTC24 news is interesting. if that's ana ctual hand in the cookie jar investigation because "bitcoin!!", that's actually pretty good.
Apr 27 21:55:16 <ColdHardMetal>	not because bitcoin that should read
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Apr 27 21:56:30 <mircea_popescu>	that;s not what it is.
Apr 27 21:56:41 <mircea_popescu>	german bank noticed phised money going to X account
Apr 27 21:56:58 <mircea_popescu>	they asked it be closed down and are investigating the idiot for being part of the ring.
Apr 27 21:57:32 <ColdHardMetal>	ok. well, if he's clean that's great, and if he's not well, he should go to jail.
Apr 27 21:58:05 <ColdHardMetal>	either way, investgation because of fraud better than investigation because "herp derp bitcoin evil"
Apr 27 21:58:05 <mircea_popescu>	he's going to jail anyway. what's clean mean ?
Apr 27 21:58:29 <ColdHardMetal>	clean in that he's not a knowledgeable party to the fraud.
Apr 27 21:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	i never heard of any actual prosecution where this was seriously contemplated.
Apr 27 21:59:06 <mircea_popescu>	fact remains phisher sent the money to his accoutn.
Apr 27 21:59:33 <mircea_popescu>	he didn't report it as undue with the bank or anything, he's in.
Apr 27 22:00:27 <ColdHardMetal>	fair enough.
Apr 27 22:01:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.003 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Apr 27 22:01:28 <mircea_popescu>	i mean sure, i'm convinced he's just some random guy who's been operating on some common misrepresentations of how the world works
Apr 27 22:01:52 <mircea_popescu>	ie, innocent in the ignorance sense of that term.
Apr 27 22:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	nevertheless...
Apr 27 22:02:10 <ColdHardMetal>	I'm just content that the legal action isn't being based just on the fact he was handling BTC.
Apr 27 22:02:23 <ColdHardMetal>	if it's a legit fraud investigation, than kind of no news really.
Apr 27 22:02:31 <ColdHardMetal>	BTCwise.
Apr 27 22:03:03 <ColdHardMetal>	whether mere fraud is the actual motivator behind it, I doubt we'll ever know.
Apr 27 22:03:16 <ColdHardMetal>	not mere fraud.
Apr 27 22:03:22 <ColdHardMetal>	actual fraud
Apr 27 22:03:30 <ColdHardMetal>	better turn of phrase.
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Apr 27 22:10:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [-]
Apr 27 22:10:17 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 27 22:10:30 <mircea_popescu>	i'm pretty sure it's not per-btc, just per-fraud.
Apr 27 22:18:26 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.lysanderspooner.org/node/35 this is a must-read
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Apr 27 22:18:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 22:25:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4681 BTC [+]
Apr 27 22:29:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 20 @ 0.1999 = 3.998 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 22:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4788 = 0.9576 BTC [+]
Apr 27 22:34:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4683 = 1.4049 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 22:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4651 = 1.3953 BTC [-]
Apr 27 22:44:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
Apr 27 22:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4788 = 1.4364 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 22:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4671 = 1.4013 BTC [-]
Apr 27 22:57:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+]
Apr 27 22:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4788 BTC [+]
Apr 27 22:59:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2542 BTC [+]
Apr 27 22:59:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269 BTC [+]
Apr 27 23:00:38 <mircea_popescu>	!t m ^oix
Apr 27 23:00:39 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.25474403 / 141.37575896 / 339.46171704 (70 shares, 3.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 27 23:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4788 = 0.9576 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 23:12:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.269999 = 12.7 BTC [+]
Apr 27 23:13:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.288 BTC [+]
Apr 27 23:13:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.289 = 12.89 BTC [+]
Apr 27 23:14:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1585 @ 0.00070705 = 1.1207 BTC [+]
Apr 27 23:14:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2615 @ 0.00069449 = 1.8161 BTC [-]
Apr 27 23:14:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.299 = 12.99 BTC [+]
Apr 27 23:15:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2989 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 23:26:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4788 = 1.4364 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 23:27:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00071 = 4.047 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 23:28:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.46 = 4.14 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 23:39:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00071 = 9.8335 BTC [+]
Apr 27 23:39:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.29 = 7.74 BTC [-]
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Apr 27 23:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4501 = 3.6008 BTC [-]
Apr 27 23:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4501 = 0.9002 BTC [-]
Apr 27 23:53:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.2908 = 0.5816 BTC [+]
Apr 27 23:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.474 = 0.948 BTC [+]
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Apr 27 23:55:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Apr 27 23:55:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [+]
Apr 27 23:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4749 = 4.2741 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.479 = 2.395 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:00:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.01 = 0.07 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 00:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45000001 = 0.9 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:01:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 00:03:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:03:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:03:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:04:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.47889999 = 0.9578 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:04:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4787 = 2.3935 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:05:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4787 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.4501 = 4.9511 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:07:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.47899999 = 1.437 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:07:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.479 = 2.395 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.48 = 1.44 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:09:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4824 = 1.4472 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4824 = 1.4472 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:12:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 380 @ 0.00302263 = 1.1486 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 00:33:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1059 @ 0.00069449 = 0.7355 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:34:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00068417 = 2.7709 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:34:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00068289 = 3.7559 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 00:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4669 = 1.4007 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 00:44:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.298 = 6.49 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 00:45:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.299899 = 6.4995 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4426 = 3.5408 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.44250001 = 1.3275 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 00:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4649 = 3.7192 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4425 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:50:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.44138 = 1.7655 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 00:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44138 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.44135 = 2.2068 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:53:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4412 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 00:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.47150001 = 4.715 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43505 = 0.8701 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
Apr 28 00:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4305 = 0.861 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4305 BTC [-]
Apr 28 00:58:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4305 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4848999 = 4.849 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 01:02:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4314 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:02:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4313 = 1.7252 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:04:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.4314 = 7.3338 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4754 = 2.8524 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4798 = 1.4394 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:06:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47989999 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.47989999 = 1.9196 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:08:13 <topace_>	wow vtx is on fire tonight
Apr 28 01:08:18 <topace_>	!ticker h vtx
Apr 28 01:08:19 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.43050000 / 0.46243864 / 0.48489990 (270 shares, 124.85843305 BTC), 7D: 0.39140000 / 0.45680882 / 0.49750000 (1142 shares, 521.67567442 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.40186193 / 0.61488800 (6201 shares, 2491.94585868 BTC)
Apr 28 01:10:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.47989999 = 2.3995 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:10:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4370002 = 4.37 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:10:14 <dub>	!seen burnside
Apr 28 01:10:29 <dub>	;;seen burnside
Apr 28 01:10:29 <gribble>	burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 3 days, 5 hours, 57 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <burnside> gonna be traveling for the next week or so.  any inquiries PM me on the forums or send a support request via btct.co.
Apr 28 01:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4799 = 3.8392 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 01:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4477 = 1.3431 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 01:29:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.44999999 = 1.35 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:29:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.434 = 2.604 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4698 = 2.349 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 01:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.43415 = 1.3025 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4341 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:42:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4341 = 1.3023 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4647 = 2.7882 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4647 = 1.8588 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:44:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4304 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 01:46:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 5 @ 0.00171 = 0.0086 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.4304 = 7.7472 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:49:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4744 = 1.4232 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:49:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4744 = 0.9488 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:49:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2501 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:50:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4752 = 1.4256 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:50:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4752 = 2.8512 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:50:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 01:53:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4305 = 2.583 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:53:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4304 = 1.7216 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4314 = 0.8628 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:54:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4314 = 0.8628 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:54:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4304 BTC [-]
Apr 28 01:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.210001 = 2.42 BTC [+]
Apr 28 01:59:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.45 = 1.8 BTC [+]
Apr 28 02:08:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 13 @ 0.0044 = 0.0572 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 02:19:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4714 = 4.714 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 02:43:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4649 = 1.3947 BTC [-]
Apr 28 02:48:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2969 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 02:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.441 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 02:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4639 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 02:58:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2969 BTC [+]
Apr 28 03:08:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
Apr 28 03:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45499999 BTC [+]
Apr 28 03:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
Apr 28 03:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43030001 = 0.8606 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 03:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 03:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.435 = 0.87 BTC [-]
Apr 28 03:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
Apr 28 03:18:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
Apr 28 03:23:21 <xait9>	anyone wanna talk btc derivs
Apr 28 03:29:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4304 = 2.5824 BTC [-]
Apr 28 03:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.447 BTC [+]
Apr 28 03:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4304 BTC [-]
Apr 28 03:35:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4638 BTC [+]
Apr 28 03:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [-]
Apr 28 03:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4304 = 0.8608 BTC [-]
Apr 28 03:40:07 <ThickAsThieves>	;;seen jurov
Apr 28 03:40:08 <gribble>	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 38 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <jurov> hi mjr___
Apr 28 03:40:55 <jurov>	yea i'm on it
Apr 28 03:41:07 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 28 03:41:20 <jurov>	but mpex must process it first
Apr 28 03:41:27 <ThickAsThieves>	thx
Apr 28 03:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
Apr 28 03:48:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.455 = 0.91 BTC [+]
Apr 28 03:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.445 BTC [-]
Apr 28 03:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.453 = 0.906 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 03:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4306 = 0.8612 BTC [-]
Apr 28 03:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4306 = 3.0142 BTC [-]
Apr 28 03:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4538 = 3.1766 BTC [+]
Apr 28 04:01:11 <jurov>	;;later tell mircea_popescu "mpbor says 12%, but i received 12.5% on bonds. i don't mind but deprived will likely find out :D"
Apr 28 04:01:11 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 28 04:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4669 = 0.9338 BTC [+]
Apr 28 04:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4308 = 0.8616 BTC [-]
Apr 28 04:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4668 BTC [+]
Apr 28 04:10:21 <jurov>	capital expenses : 805.64125 BTC (6`445.13 × 12.5%) seems it really should be 12.5%
Apr 28 04:12:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.431 BTC [-]
Apr 28 04:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46666 BTC [+]
Apr 28 04:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.431 BTC [-]
Apr 28 04:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4666 BTC [+]
Apr 28 04:16:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.431 BTC [-]
Apr 28 04:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4666 BTC [+]
Apr 28 04:18:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.431 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 04:27:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.295 BTC [-]
Apr 28 04:32:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.099 BTC [-]
Apr 28 04:34:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [+]
Apr 28 04:36:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
Apr 28 04:39:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 59 @ 0.01 = 0.59 BTC [+]
Apr 28 04:41:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Apr 28 04:46:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.295 = 11.655 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 04:51:11 <seongyupyoo>	Mircea here?
Apr 28 04:51:51 <seongyupyoo>	Does anybody know how to make a blackhole address?
Apr 28 04:54:58 <diana_coman>	seongyupyoo maybe this would help you? http://www.cotsweb.com/blog/setting-up-a-black-hole-email-address-327.html
Apr 28 04:59:05 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DdfLtOrBPU&list=PLA9B8CDA6BA83F981
Apr 28 05:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 1.7798 = 14.2384 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 05:11:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31999995 = 0.64 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 05:15:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Apr 28 05:20:11 <KRS1>	u guys hear about the attack on ltc
Apr 28 05:20:15 <KRS1>	<+Luke-Jr> ne0futur: also, to demonstrate, work is underway to 51% litecoin
Apr 28 05:20:50 <Chaang-Noi>	??
Apr 28 05:20:54 <Chaang-Noi>	is luke doing it?
Apr 28 05:21:04 <KRS1>	was going to ask him myself..idk
Apr 28 05:21:40 <Chaang-Noi>	seems hard to do
Apr 28 05:21:42 <KRS1>	<ukru> dub: What channel is this luke-jr conversation taking place in - bitcoinb-otc ?
Apr 28 05:21:55 <KRS1>	idk not much speed/power going on there i think
Apr 28 05:22:10 <Chaang-Noi>	there are a lot of miners mining ltc
Apr 28 05:22:25 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: ltc scrypt is super-weak to FPGAs
Apr 28 05:22:35 <KRS1>	heh there we go
Apr 28 05:22:56 <Chaang-Noi>	if they have the ram
Apr 28 05:23:01 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: even without RAM
Apr 28 05:23:35 <Chaang-Noi>	it seems silly to me that someone would go to the trouble to make a bunch of fpgas just to attack a coin and not mine for profit
Apr 28 05:23:44 <Luke-Jr>	don't need to make them
Apr 28 05:23:52 <Luke-Jr>	just a bitstream for existing bitcoin fpgas
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Apr 28 05:24:14 <Chaang-Noi>	so, this is your project then?
Apr 28 05:24:19 <Luke-Jr>	nope
Apr 28 05:24:27 <Luke-Jr>	not mine
Apr 28 05:24:42 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda doubt someone go to that trouble to kill litecoin when they could make massive oney
Apr 28 05:24:57 <Luke-Jr>	well, they plan to do both :p
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Apr 28 05:25:14 <Chaang-Noi>	who is they?
Apr 28 05:25:27 <Luke-Jr>	not telling that
Apr 28 05:25:44 <Chaang-Noi>	well they will need a shit load of fpgas anyway
Apr 28 05:25:50 <Luke-Jr>	10 is enough
Apr 28 05:26:02 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Apr 28 05:26:03 <Luke-Jr>	maybe a few more if more GPUs switch
Apr 28 05:26:07 <Chaang-Noi>	i kinda doub that
Apr 28 05:26:16 <Luke-Jr>	k
Apr 28 05:26:50 <Chaang-Noi>	10 fpgas can out do 1000's if not 10,000s gpus
Apr 28 05:27:18 <Chaang-Noi>	i find that very hard to belive
Apr 28 05:28:10 <Luke-Jr>	well, we'll see when it's done
Apr 28 05:28:58 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Apr 28 05:30:09 <maximian>	luke-jr: i missed some of the conversation - is this attack underway or will it be soon?
Apr 28 05:30:52 <Luke-Jr>	maximian: probably in a few weeks
Apr 28 05:31:05 <maximian>	interesting
Apr 28 05:31:27 <maximian>	should be fun watching the trollbox :)
Apr 28 05:31:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Apr 28 05:38:45 <Chaang-Noi>	time to dump all my ltc (troll face)
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Apr 28 05:56:26 <mircea_popescu>	jurov no it was 12.5
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Apr 28 05:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	o i see, it's 12.5 in the capital expenses and 12 in mpbor line lol. ty.
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Apr 28 06:00:22 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136711955998.jpg
Apr 28 06:00:28 <mircea_popescu>	and top o' da mornin' to everyone.
Apr 28 06:04:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0159 = 0.0318 BTC [-]
Apr 28 06:12:39 <Chaang-Noi>	,prning
Apr 28 06:12:44 <Chaang-Noi>	i mean morning
Apr 28 06:15:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol. hi.
Apr 28 06:15:24 <mircea_popescu>	how's the pietrilla conference ?
Apr 28 06:15:39 <Chaang-Noi>	i think he invited you
Apr 28 06:15:42 <Chaang-Noi>	he updated his thread
Apr 28 06:16:01 <Chaang-Noi>	honestly i dont think anyone will go
Apr 28 06:16:11 <Chaang-Noi>	even if it was going to do something its like a week away
Apr 28 06:16:14 <Chaang-Noi>	or 2 weeks
Apr 28 06:16:19 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea why is he going so weird about things.
Apr 28 06:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, on the face of it : he seems to have a silver broker business or something.
Apr 28 06:16:58 <mircea_popescu>	instead of being sane he's been making himself this assclown all over the forum (way before this supernode thing, if you read his history)
Apr 28 06:17:00 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah
Apr 28 06:17:01 <mircea_popescu>	i just don't get it.
Apr 28 06:17:16 <Chaang-Noi>	i think he just made like a shit load of money and thinks it will keep going up at this rate
Apr 28 06:17:30 <mircea_popescu>	he doesn't really sound like that to me, but hey.
Apr 28 06:17:31 <Chaang-Noi>	if he bought his 2400 coins at $10 thats a good return for a few months
Apr 28 06:17:39 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe he just cant handle the wealthy
Apr 28 06:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	get out of here.
Apr 28 06:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	he bought his coins by selling silver and buying in the 1-200 range
Apr 28 06:18:12 <mircea_popescu>	he's said so, at that time.
Apr 28 06:18:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i see
Apr 28 06:18:25 <Chaang-Noi>	well...
Apr 28 06:18:31 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know then
Apr 28 06:18:47 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe he just expects it to go to crazy, he said 300$ for mBTC in 2014
Apr 28 06:19:05 <Chaang-Noi>	thats like what 20k usd per coins? something silly...
Apr 28 06:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	300k per coin.
Apr 28 06:19:24 <mircea_popescu>	1btc = 1k mbtc neh ?
Apr 28 06:19:26 <Chaang-Noi>	thats a bit much
Apr 28 06:19:48 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/lets-capture-forum-bugs-in-amber/
Apr 28 06:19:49 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe he is trying to be a btc player but is just too noob to know wtf he is doing
Apr 28 06:20:28 <mircea_popescu>	there. if he didn't sell during the collapse, he has some coins bought at 70ish
Apr 28 06:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	like 2k btc.
Apr 28 06:20:55 <Chaang-Noi>	he said he did not sell at the 200 but told others too
Apr 28 06:21:12 <Chaang-Noi>	he claims to have 2.4k ish btc
Apr 28 06:21:19 <mircea_popescu>	i mean, if he didn't sell in a panic back in march when btc collapsed to 50,
Apr 28 06:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	then he might still have 2, heck, 2.5k btc bought at 72
Apr 28 06:22:02 <mircea_popescu>	which is a pretty decent gains, whatever, 100k usd or what is it
Apr 28 06:22:07 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i remember him talking about buying them at 70ish
Apr 28 06:22:14 <Chaang-Noi>	he was trying to get someone to buy for him
Apr 28 06:22:15 <mircea_popescu>	so then that's it.
Apr 28 06:22:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i wondered if he was a scammer at the time, guess not
Apr 28 06:22:33 <mircea_popescu>	well, this is all no proof.
Apr 28 06:22:37 <Chaang-Noi>	its in the now locked wall observer thread
Apr 28 06:22:51 <mircea_popescu>	it's just if we follow his own declarations there's a coherent construction that can be made.
Apr 28 06:23:03 <Chaang-Noi>	he could not even prove he had 13 btc, and lost it to a troll, that was fucking lulz
Apr 28 06:23:28 <Chaang-Noi>	im not sure what his conferance is really about, other than showing off how rich he/we are
Apr 28 06:23:31 <Chaang-Noi>	seems silly
Apr 28 06:23:48 <mircea_popescu>	well basically mpoe-pr was saying he's trying to copy mine
Apr 28 06:24:07 <mircea_popescu>	not necessarily a bad idea but he's going assbackwards about things
Apr 28 06:24:19 <Chaang-Noi>	you had a conferance?
Apr 28 06:26:30 <mircea_popescu>	well yes.
Apr 28 06:26:45 <Chaang-Noi>	i did not get the invite:)
Apr 28 06:27:05 <mircea_popescu>	well ya, most nobody did.
Apr 28 06:27:18 <mircea_popescu>	the select comittee on bitcoin affairs.
Apr 28 06:27:46 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Apr 28 06:27:50 <Chaang-Noi>	was it in romania?
Apr 28 06:28:03 <mircea_popescu>	yup.
Apr 28 06:28:10 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/
Apr 28 06:28:15 <mircea_popescu>	there, see who you recognise.
Apr 28 06:28:45 <Chaang-Noi>	eric and you
Apr 28 06:29:18 <Chaang-Noi>	i think iv seen the guy on the far left
Apr 28 06:29:25 <Chaang-Noi>	on top photo
Apr 28 06:29:37 <mircea_popescu>	well that's something.
Apr 28 06:29:59 <Chaang-Noi>	then you pr girl on the lower one
Apr 28 06:30:12 <Chaang-Noi>	thats about it
Apr 28 06:30:21 <mircea_popescu>	next to her is my cfo and next to her is my lead counsel.
Apr 28 06:30:34 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah id not know them
Apr 28 06:30:48 <mircea_popescu>	and in the top pic right under me woman behind chair is martha mcculler, my cto
Apr 28 06:41:00 <mircea_popescu>	i guess this is the only biz in bitcoin with more women than men involved or some shit.
Apr 28 06:41:26 <Chaang-Noi>	what about the brothels that take btc?
Apr 28 06:42:03 <mircea_popescu>	do those exist yet ?
Apr 28 06:42:40 <Chaang-Noi>	iv been told they do, in eurpe
Apr 28 06:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	eh this legend with europe
Apr 28 06:43:39 <mircea_popescu>	before the btc brothel, everyone in bdsm was convinced there exist these magical dungeons "in europe"
Apr 28 06:44:05 <mircea_popescu>	for some reason everyone thinks everything they can dream up is in europe. sorta like a modern day xanadu
Apr 28 06:44:13 <Chaang-Noi>	iv seen an advertisemnt, could have been a hoax
Apr 28 06:44:30 <mircea_popescu>	link ?
Apr 28 06:44:43 <Chaang-Noi>	long time ago and it was on tor
Apr 28 06:45:01 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know it was real or not
Apr 28 06:45:11 <Chaang-Noi>	i was just looking to see what btc operations were on tor
Apr 28 06:45:30 <Chaang-Noi>	evidently some freelancers take btc too
Apr 28 06:46:15 <mircea_popescu>	well ya.
Apr 28 06:46:27 <mircea_popescu>	it's weird tho, pretty much the money trail is the only way to make a prostitution bust stick
Apr 28 06:46:38 <mircea_popescu>	yet afaik the girls haven't figured out bitcoin.
Apr 28 06:46:40 <mircea_popescu>	stupid.
Apr 28 06:47:07 <Chaang-Noi>	well customers need to have it
Apr 28 06:47:17 <usagi>	it looks like nefario is in the second picture.......
Apr 28 06:47:33 <usagi>	lol that really does look like him doesn' tit
Apr 28 06:47:36 <mircea_popescu>	customers don't want their car impounded.
Apr 28 06:48:00 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not talking about being a lazy ass cokehead and taking whatwever customers have.
Apr 28 06:48:10 <mircea_popescu>	i'm talking about being smart. which actually many whores are.
Apr 28 06:48:16 <Chaang-Noi>	nefario? lol
Apr 28 06:48:22 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 28 06:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,hash 5000
Apr 28 06:54:41 <gribble>	Error: "bc,hash" is not a valid command.
Apr 28 06:54:50 <mircea_popescu>	bah. what's the command to eval mining results ?
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Apr 28 06:57:02 <Chaang-Noi>	no idea
Apr 28 06:57:14 <mircea_popescu>	;;genrate 5000
Apr 28 06:57:15 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 5000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.280192739128 BTC per day and 0.0116746974637 BTC per hour.
Apr 28 06:57:32 <Chaang-Noi>	who is the guy left of eric in the tip photo?
Apr 28 06:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	so people are bidding 30 btc on those blade boards for a chance to make .3 a day ?
Apr 28 06:57:44 <mircea_popescu>	ridoinculous.
Apr 28 06:58:02 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi he's in this chan, all i'm gonna say.
Apr 28 06:58:41 <Chaang-Noi>	iv seen him before
Apr 28 06:58:46 <Chaang-Noi>	jurov?
Apr 28 06:58:49 <Namworld>	Everything mining related is now ridiculously expensive
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Apr 28 06:58:59 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi no, jurov is in the other pic
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Apr 28 06:59:18 <Chaang-Noi>	well i know iv seen him before
Apr 28 06:59:26 <Chaang-Noi>	if not met him
Apr 28 06:59:44 <mircea_popescu>	i'm curious if you remember.
Apr 28 07:00:05 <Chaang-Noi>	burtw?
Apr 28 07:00:09 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld yea i agree. i mean... 100 days to breakeven w/o power or any other costs
Apr 28 07:00:17 <mircea_popescu>	and then there's going to be a ton of these deployed
Apr 28 07:00:19 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi nah
Apr 28 07:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	burtw is not in this chan is he
Apr 28 07:00:43 <Chaang-Noi>	well i dont know, but im pretty sure iv seen him before somewhere
Apr 28 07:01:10 <mircea_popescu>	unless he wants to out himself...
Apr 28 07:01:37 <Chaang-Noi>	not a big deal
Apr 28 07:03:49 <mircea_popescu>	;;nethash
Apr 28 07:03:50 <gribble>	72692.2434045
Apr 28 07:04:02 <mircea_popescu>	72th, srsly ?!
Apr 28 07:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	boy we've grown.
Apr 28 07:04:27 <Chaang-Noi>	people are buying gpus to mine, no joke
Apr 28 07:04:38 <mircea_popescu>	yeah at this price...
Apr 28 07:04:46 <Chaang-Noi>	and i wonder if bfl is mining with their half working shit
Apr 28 07:04:58 <Chaang-Noi>	id almost buy shit too, and then mine ltc with it
Apr 28 07:05:04 <Chaang-Noi>	but im pretty lazy
Apr 28 07:05:53 <Chaang-Noi>	AM is adding as well
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Apr 28 07:08:34 <mircea_popescu>	"if you get back all your btc, while me and others lost all our fiat, i will do everything to make the site owner life hard not to share the lost beetween customers"
Apr 28 07:08:38 <mircea_popescu>	lol. fiat sucks. get used to it.
Apr 28 07:10:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0159 = 0.0636 BTC [-]
Apr 28 07:11:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 21 @ 0.0163 = 0.3423 BTC [+]
Apr 28 07:12:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
Apr 28 07:14:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1018 BTC [+]
Apr 28 07:15:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1025 BTC [+]
Apr 28 07:17:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+]
Apr 28 07:18:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 07:24:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.003322 = 0.0066 BTC [+]
Apr 28 07:32:01 <KRS1>	;;goxlag
Apr 28 07:32:02 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.860826 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00172508566571 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 28 07:32:21 <kakobrekla>	13:04.26 ( Chaang-Noi ) people are buying gpus to mine, no joke
Apr 28 07:32:30 <kakobrekla>	they are even buying ztex fpga
Apr 28 07:32:48 <kakobrekla>	which is like ~1k eur for less than a GH
Apr 28 07:33:00 <kakobrekla>	retaded
Apr 28 07:33:36 <kakobrekla>	also i have seen icarus which costs 500e or something to go for 15bt
Apr 28 07:33:46 <kakobrekla>	a used one ofc.
Apr 28 07:34:43 <KRS1>	wow..whats next? little kids wont even be able go get that new gpu they wanted to play space warriors X for Christmas?
Apr 28 07:35:06 <mircea_popescu>	pretty much.
Apr 28 07:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	luckily the good gpus (ati) are useless for mining
Apr 28 07:35:24 <mircea_popescu>	this may perversely actually destroy nvidia
Apr 28 07:35:33 <mircea_popescu>	as we buy all their products they're losing market share in the gaming mkt.
Apr 28 07:35:54 <KRS1>	ATI are useless for mining? Thats all I used to use..hell 3 6970's gave me 1.2 Ghash
Apr 28 07:36:03 <mircea_popescu>	or wait no
Apr 28 07:36:08 <mircea_popescu>	i got it backwards. nvidia.
Apr 28 07:36:12 <KRS1>	nvidia..the other way round =D
Apr 28 07:36:19 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 28 07:36:27 <KRS1>	man did they miss the boat on that one
Apr 28 07:36:47 <KRS1>	they were looking for an entirely different market like weather modeling
Apr 28 07:39:28 <KRS1>	sorry for correcting you- easy mistake to make
Apr 28 07:40:01 <KRS1>	lol@bitpotato.com
Apr 28 07:40:06 <Chaang-Noi>	kakobrekla you saw on ebay some of the cassicus coins selling for 2k usd?
Apr 28 07:40:11 <Chaang-Noi>	people just want into btc
Apr 28 07:40:13 <KRS1>	wtf is next..tampons?
Apr 28 07:40:14 <kakobrekla>	yes
Apr 28 07:40:16 <mircea_popescu>	what do you mean sorry lol. if you hadn't said anything it'd still be there lol
Apr 28 07:40:19 <kakobrekla>	i have some of those coins
Apr 28 07:40:25 <kakobrekla>	but i dont have ebay acc
Apr 28 07:40:26 <Chaang-Noi>	i have some as well
Apr 28 07:40:32 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah same here, fuck ebay
Apr 28 07:40:35 <kakobrekla>	Chaang-Noi ill sell for 1k to you and you sell for 2k on bay
Apr 28 07:40:42 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Apr 28 07:40:50 <Chaang-Noi>	i have my own but thanks:) also fuck ebay:)
Apr 28 07:40:56 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 28 07:41:17 <kakobrekla>	this bitcoin is getting all fucked up
Apr 28 07:41:23 <kakobrekla>	too main stream
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Apr 28 07:41:32 <Chaang-Noi>	haha
Apr 28 07:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	omg scam
Apr 28 07:41:46 <mircea_popescu>	you know, thios would be pretty cool, iof instead of claiming hack
Apr 28 07:41:51 <Chaang-Noi>	just wait until paypal and western union start using it
Apr 28 07:41:51 <mircea_popescu>	the scammer start claiming "too lame".
Apr 28 07:43:29 <Chaang-Noi>	AM selling 50 blades this time around
Apr 28 07:43:42 <KRS1>	how can i get in on them blades
Apr 28 07:43:51 <Chaang-Noi>	auction on the forum
Apr 28 07:44:03 <kakobrekla>	urlpls
Apr 28 07:44:04 <Chaang-Noi>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189248
Apr 28 07:44:10 <mircea_popescu>	ya it was like at 30
Apr 28 07:44:15 <Chaang-Noi>	no paypal
Apr 28 07:44:18 <mircea_popescu>	i was saying before, insanity.
Apr 28 07:44:35 <Chaang-Noi>	a day left still
Apr 28 07:44:37 <kakobrekla>	hmmm
Apr 28 07:44:40 <Chaang-Noi>	last went for 75
Apr 28 07:44:47 <Chaang-Noi>	these should go 50 ormore
Apr 28 07:44:57 <kakobrekla>	top ptice is 35 now
Apr 28 07:45:09 <kakobrekla>	::calc bc,convert eur
Apr 28 07:45:13 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck tho seriously. they are 5gh/s right ?
Apr 28 07:45:15 <kakobrekla>	wtf
Apr 28 07:45:17 <kakobrekla>	im half sleep
Apr 28 07:45:23 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,convert eur
Apr 28 07:45:24 <gribble>	1 BTC = 133.83000 U.S. dollars = 102.732786 Euros
Apr 28 07:45:32 <kakobrekla>	also half sheep
Apr 28 07:45:39 <mircea_popescu>	shleep
Apr 28 07:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	btw did you see the fluorescent sheeps ?
Apr 28 07:45:47 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 28 07:45:52 <kakobrekla>	i dont think so
Apr 28 07:46:05 <Chaang-Noi>	they are 10 ghs
Apr 28 07:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.nodeju.com/8327/fluorescent-sheep-born-in-uruguay.html
Apr 28 07:46:09 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,genrate 1
Apr 28 07:46:10 <gribble>	Error: "bc,genrate" is not a valid command.
Apr 28 07:46:13 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,gen 1
Apr 28 07:46:13 <gribble>	use the 'genrate' command instead
Apr 28 07:46:18 <mircea_popescu>	;;genrate 10000
Apr 28 07:46:20 <kakobrekla>	dammit
Apr 28 07:46:20 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
Apr 28 07:46:22 <kakobrekla>	a
Apr 28 07:46:41 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi ok so not quite insane as i originally thought. still pretty insane
Apr 28 07:46:46 <kakobrekla>	thats 10 jigga hash right
Apr 28 07:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	ya
Apr 28 07:46:57 <kakobrekla>	sheesh
Apr 28 07:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	and! diff is for sure 10mn by end of month
Apr 28 07:47:18 <mircea_popescu>	or ealry next
Apr 28 07:47:20 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 28 07:47:23 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233564 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 291 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 21 hours, 21 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9972380.59898 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.12159
Apr 28 07:47:32 <kakobrekla>	ha
Apr 28 07:47:35 <kakobrekla>	that bet
Apr 28 07:47:36 <kakobrekla>	...
Apr 28 07:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	ya lol
Apr 28 07:47:52 <mircea_popescu>	like JUST on the cusp.
Apr 28 07:47:58 <mircea_popescu>	incredible shit.
Apr 28 07:48:26 <kakobrekla>	so hm
Apr 28 07:48:37 <kakobrekla>	you need 100 days at current diff
Apr 28 07:48:43 <kakobrekla>	to get the money back
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Apr 28 07:48:47 <kakobrekla>	which is more like 300
Apr 28 07:48:53 <kakobrekla>	on the end
Apr 28 07:49:01 <kakobrekla>	if the board lives that long
Apr 28 07:49:06 <mircea_popescu>	o look at this. Chaang-Noi apparently you're invited.
Apr 28 07:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	"Goat MP satoshi"
Apr 28 07:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla ikr?
Apr 28 07:49:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 398 @ 0.005 = 1.99 BTC [+]
Apr 28 07:49:44 <kakobrekla>	myea
Apr 28 07:49:48 <kakobrekla>	i guess im out
Apr 28 07:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	"I purposely omitted people not in this forum from the list."
Apr 28 07:50:28 <mircea_popescu>	see ? i'm on the forum. you're not.
Apr 28 07:50:30 <mircea_popescu>	noob.
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Apr 28 07:50:59 <mircea_popescu>	funny list tho
Apr 28 07:51:16 <kakobrekla>	where is that from?
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Apr 28 07:51:22 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1965013#msg1965013
Apr 28 07:51:25 <mircea_popescu>	sorta informative,
Apr 28 07:51:33 <mircea_popescu>	shows us what the noobs think are the movers and shakers.
Apr 28 07:51:36 <mircea_popescu>	sirius etc.
Apr 28 07:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	sorta like asking the tv crowd their idea on who runs america
Apr 28 07:52:09 <mircea_popescu>	"that rap producer guy, that boxing promoter guy, obama and that chick on twitter".
Apr 28 07:53:13 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 28 07:53:17 <kakobrekla>	im not on the list.
Apr 28 07:53:24 <mircea_popescu>	"The reason there are pledges, which cost more and more when the # of participants is increasing, is that otherwise I would benefit too much from the tickets. The ticket income increases quadratically with the number of admissions, the costs go up perhaps in the 1.5th power. "
Apr 28 07:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	this math. bitcoin is based on it.
Apr 28 07:54:06 <pigeons>	maff
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Apr 28 07:56:09 <kakobrekla>	imma just a sub node sector zappa 6b
Apr 28 07:56:16 <kakobrekla>	not relevant enough :(
Apr 28 07:58:10 <kakobrekla>	http://vimeo.com/26149808
Apr 28 08:06:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [+]
Apr 28 08:06:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [+]
Apr 28 08:06:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Apr 28 08:08:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299899 = 2.5998 BTC [+]
Apr 28 08:08:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.3 = 32.5 BTC [+]
Apr 28 08:08:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [+]
Apr 28 08:08:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.3 = 18.2 BTC [+]
Apr 28 08:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla The mystery man came over and he said "I'm outta sight!"
Apr 28 08:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	He said for a nominal service charge I could reach nirvana tonight
Apr 28 08:12:33 <KRS1>	I wouldnt mind reaching nirvana at some point..i'm sure it involves a long legged blonde at some point
Apr 28 08:12:55 <KRS1>	d'oh
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Apr 28 08:19:44 <error4733>	;;next
Apr 28 08:19:44 <gribble>	targets: 150, 160-164 | resistance: 136, 140 | support: 120, 118-114, 106-103 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 28 2013, 00:29 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 11 hours, 50 minutes, and 42 seconds ago
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Apr 28 08:23:54 <Chaang-Noi>	mp yeah i said you got invited and yeah me too, right along with satoshi, lulz
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Apr 28 08:25:13 <Chaang-Noi>	mp that list is mostly people from the wall obeservation thread
Apr 28 08:25:13 <Chaang-Noi>	i would not mind going to findland but i really dont think much will come of this
Apr 28 08:26:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00066644 = 3.3322 BTC [-]
Apr 28 08:26:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00066643 = 3.4321 BTC [-]
Apr 28 08:27:51 <Chaang-Noi>	lol what?
Apr 28 08:28:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00300427 = 3.6051 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 08:30:59 <Uglux>	wow dat AM auction, and still one day left
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Apr 28 08:37:57 <ThickAsThieves>	these call options are overpriced...
Apr 28 08:38:14 <ThickAsThieves>	$195 is best breakeven
Apr 28 08:39:16 <error4733>	Mp backstop ;)
Apr 28 08:39:38 <ThickAsThieves>	so now we need 50% swings to make any money...
Apr 28 08:39:49 <ThickAsThieves>	bastion of satbility that is
Apr 28 08:39:53 <ThickAsThieves>	stability*
Apr 28 08:40:16 <error4733>	how many 50% swing this month ?
Apr 28 08:40:52 <error4733>	4? 5?
Apr 28 08:41:24 <ThickAsThieves>	except when it was factoring those it was even worse
Apr 28 08:41:51 <ThickAsThieves>	also, what about the 2years of history before
Apr 28 08:42:09 <ThickAsThieves>	your point makes sense
Apr 28 08:42:16 <ThickAsThieves>	but it also cripples options
Apr 28 08:52:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P161T] 1 @ 0.79690016 BTC
Apr 28 08:53:45 <error4733>	Haha,
Apr 28 08:54:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C107T] 3 @ 0.45517597 = 1.3655 BTC [-]
Apr 28 08:54:29 <ThickAsThieves>	there :/
Apr 28 08:54:40 <ThickAsThieves>	i'll dabble
Apr 28 08:54:45 <error4733>	i'm with you for the call
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Apr 28 08:56:02 <error4733>	just need one drama monday
Apr 28 08:57:25 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 ya lol
Apr 28 08:59:28 <error4733>	black april is not finish yet... be ready for the final
Apr 28 09:00:25 <mircea_popescu>	"You can easily buy money with coolness. You can hardly buy coolness with money."
Apr 28 09:00:27 <mircea_popescu>	dude this thread is gomedy cold.
Apr 28 09:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla wtf, is assets +i now ?
Apr 28 09:02:23 <kakobrekla>	ops
Apr 28 09:02:24 <kakobrekla>	my bad
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Apr 28 09:02:50 <mircea_popescu>	ppl were like "invite me plz" i was wtf ?!
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Apr 28 09:03:11 <KRS-1>	ya well I started talking shit about obama and next thing i know my power went out
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Apr 28 09:03:46 <Chaang-Noi>	i was kicked?
Apr 28 09:03:51 <kakobrekla>	not yet
Apr 28 09:03:56 <mircea_popescu>	Chaang-Noi well ironically i usually go to finland/estonia/whatever in summer
Apr 28 09:04:05 <mircea_popescu>	but april kinda early.
Apr 28 09:05:04 <Chaang-Noi>	* Cannot join #bitcoin-assets (Channel is invite only).
Apr 28 09:05:10 <Chaang-Noi>	well its in may but still
Apr 28 09:05:24 <Chaang-Noi>	id be tempted to go if some other btc people were going but its too soon
Apr 28 09:06:00 <mircea_popescu>	i kinda don't like these "let's do something everything" affairs tbh.
Apr 28 09:06:31 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, i dont see what will be done, i also dont see who is going
Apr 28 09:07:13 <KRS-1>	Thank you Mircea, you were the only one I could think of. Who can I msg next time or who is ops that is usually here
Apr 28 09:08:19 <mircea_popescu>	i don't have ops lol
Apr 28 09:09:29 <Chaang-Noi>	kako has ops
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Apr 28 09:14:00 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla if you want +i you probably need to add a whole list of +I first
Apr 28 09:14:06 <mircea_popescu>	might not even be the worst idea.
Apr 28 09:14:49 <mircea_popescu>	of course +r has the disadvantage that all the noob chicks wanting to go topless mpoe-pr keeps sending over won't be able to get it anymoar.
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Apr 28 09:19:03 <mircea_popescu>	!t m ^oix
Apr 28 09:19:04 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.96737151 / 197.9610204 / 305.88369172 (94 shares, 7.88 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 28 09:19:11 <mircea_popescu>	200 eh.
Apr 28 09:19:39 <KRS-1>	wtf
Apr 28 09:19:44 <KRS-1>	damnit gribble
Apr 28 09:20:09 <KRS-1>	noobs are buying up those potatos
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Apr 28 09:29:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3085 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 09:34:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3086 = 2.6172 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 09:36:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3085 = 2.617 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 09:45:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3085 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 09:47:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00275 = 0.022 BTC [-]
Apr 28 09:47:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3086 = 5.2344 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 09:52:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.3086 = 3.9258 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 09:52:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0163 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 09:53:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.005 BTC [+]
Apr 28 09:57:52 <kakobrekla>	or +m and have a voicelist
Apr 28 09:58:13 <kakobrekla>	but whatever it will be, it will be after the boobs are found.
Apr 28 09:58:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 316 @ 0.005 = 1.58 BTC [+]
Apr 28 10:01:36 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. trilema is +m and voicelisted.
Apr 28 10:03:18 <KRS-1>	anyone know this cat   Betcoin was 6d825f55@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.130.95.85 * 109.130.95.85
Apr 28 10:05:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.28 = 11.52 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 10:13:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00065421 = 9.8132 BTC [-]
Apr 28 10:13:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.0006524 = 2.2508 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 10:23:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.308 BTC [+]
Apr 28 10:23:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3088 BTC [+]
Apr 28 10:23:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.319 BTC [+]
Apr 28 10:23:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32 BTC [+]
Apr 28 10:28:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00066367 = 18.0518 BTC [+]
Apr 28 10:28:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.00067064 = 2.3546 BTC [+]
Apr 28 10:39:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.32 = 2.64 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 10:48:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.015 = 0.09 BTC [-]
Apr 28 10:50:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
Apr 28 10:51:51 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9851 @ 0.00067648 = 6.664 BTC [+]
Apr 28 10:53:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 55 @ 0.001887 = 0.1038 BTC [+]
Apr 28 11:03:51 <Chaang-Noi>	nice to see AM at 1.28 bids:)
Apr 28 11:03:59 <Chaang-Noi>	should be really nice this time next week
Apr 28 11:06:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 11:14:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3199 BTC [+]
Apr 28 11:16:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
Apr 28 11:16:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 11:39:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1998 = 0.3996 BTC [-]
Apr 28 11:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.os-fashion.com/vcs-think-my-boobs-need-an-algorithm/ chick knows her shit.
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Apr 28 11:54:13 <truff1es>	boobs arent all the same size thats why the algorithm duh
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Apr 28 12:08:58 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 28 12:09:01 <gribble>	There are currently 161577.74 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 13993939.8375 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0085 seconds
Apr 28 12:09:06 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 28 12:09:07 <gribble>	There are currently 75062.168 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 12494310.4521 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.0760 seconds
Apr 28 12:11:27 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: can we be friends?
Apr 28 12:11:44 <thestringpuller>	Or do you only take payment in bitcoin for your friend services?
Apr 28 12:12:51 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 28 12:12:52 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.00010, Best ask: 136.04000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03990, Last trade: 136.04000, 24 hour volume: 53937.13488029, 24 hour low: 122.71000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 129.76267
Apr 28 12:14:20 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu wouldn't you say this quote also applies to Paul Graham? >> " the crappy start-ups that got funding at high valuations are struggling and are unable to get Series B funding, dropping like flies, creating a tech bubble"
Apr 28 12:15:13 <mircea_popescu>	writing brb.
Apr 28 12:16:08 <thestringpuller>	Also mircea_popescu apparently she's the CEO of the company that produces this: http://www.blueseventy.com/products/2012-helix-full-suit
Apr 28 12:16:20 <truff1es>	i'll take friendship monies anytime
Apr 28 12:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mind-your-step/
Apr 28 12:16:55 <mircea_popescu>	aha ? not bad
Apr 28 12:18:39 <thestringpuller>	Alright mircea_popescu you win, lemme send you more coin for your paywall
Apr 28 12:18:50 <thestringpuller>	.01 gets me how many credits?
Apr 28 12:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 28 12:19:05 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.60000, Best ask: 136.04000, Bid-ask spread: 0.44000, Last trade: 136.04000, 24 hour volume: 54078.06233830, 24 hour low: 122.71000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 129.78047
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Apr 28 12:19:13 <mircea_popescu>	like 1.3k
Apr 28 12:19:19 <thestringpuller>	lets do un/pw this time
Apr 28 12:19:30 <mircea_popescu>	un/pw ?
Apr 28 12:19:36 <thestringpuller>	username password
Apr 28 12:19:40 <thestringpuller>	instead of based on ip
Apr 28 12:19:42 <truff1es>	dont subscribe !
Apr 28 12:20:00 <thestringpuller>	don't subscribe to the NYT
Apr 28 12:20:08 <thestringpuller>	when you can use it as TP instead :P
Apr 28 12:20:09 <mircea_popescu>	a ywes. kk.
Apr 28 12:20:23 <thestringpuller>	what address should I send to?
Apr 28 12:22:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2911 BTC [+]
Apr 28 12:22:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [-]
Apr 28 12:24:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [-]
Apr 28 12:25:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
Apr 28 12:26:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 12:37:51 <mircea_popescu>	so apparently mtgox is writing a new trade engine
Apr 28 12:37:55 <mircea_popescu>	in brainfuck.
Apr 28 12:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4399 = 4.399 BTC [+]
Apr 28 12:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	 ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.
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Apr 28 12:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4399 = 0.8798 BTC [+]
Apr 28 12:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [+]
Apr 28 12:41:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4399 = 0.8798 BTC [+]
Apr 28 12:41:17 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I once wrote a FORTH to Brainfuck compiler. Betcha they dug it out from the sands of time and are using it.
Apr 28 12:41:36 <mircea_popescu>	was it under 256 bytes ?
Apr 28 12:41:55 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: close to that
Apr 28 12:42:07 <mircea_popescu>	should fit in ram over 9000 times then
Apr 28 12:42:08 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: try it yourself, it isn't hard
Apr 28 12:44:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
Apr 28 12:48:48 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu I feel as though you allude the biggest problem bitcoin faces is arrogance amongst n00bs...
Apr 28 12:49:09 <mircea_popescu>	nah.
Apr 28 12:49:10 <thestringpuller>	"I bought in at 10 dollars, now I'm rich" bullshit etc.
Apr 28 12:49:26 <mircea_popescu>	well not unless you expand noobs to mean everyone.
Apr 28 12:49:34 <mircea_popescu>	i guess arrogance is the universal problem.
Apr 28 12:49:48 <thestringpuller>	I would say Keiser is still a n00b.
Apr 28 12:49:53 <mircea_popescu>	"i'm too cool to suck cock" "i don't need to learn math" "why should i stop for red lights" etc.
Apr 28 12:49:59 <thestringpuller>	He just happens to have money in the bank.
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Apr 28 12:50:20 <thestringpuller>	but people who say, "I don't need to learn math" end up coming up short when you give them money to do business.
Apr 28 12:50:23 <thestringpuller>	Like EVERYTIME
Apr 28 12:50:36 <thestringpuller>	"Oh I thought you wanted 1.40 per sale not 2 dollars"
Apr 28 12:51:12 <thestringpuller>	Okay maybe arrogance isn't the proper word.
Apr 28 12:51:17 <thestringpuller>	How about "delusional"
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Apr 28 12:51:38 <asciilifeform>	problem is, "why should I stop for red light" is mere Darwin-food when the noob has a motorcycle. In the case of BTC, he has a trailer loaded with bricks.
Apr 28 12:51:43 <mircea_popescu>	well yes. the divergence between reality and representation and the complacency with the situation. source of all trouble.
Apr 28 12:53:00 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform then you question the wisdom of only allowing people on motorcycles until they show they drive well :D
Apr 28 12:54:21 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: I'm for the "mandatory pedestrian ram" plus "automatic liability of idiots" - method of traffic regulation.
Apr 28 12:54:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2701 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 12:55:16 <asciilifeform>	a la https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarantine_(video_game)
Apr 28 12:55:32 <mircea_popescu>	hey.
Apr 28 12:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	you ever played death track ?
Apr 28 12:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4588 = 2.294 BTC [+]
Apr 28 12:56:02 <thestringpuller>	lol death track
Apr 28 12:56:02 <asciilifeform>	yes
Apr 28 12:56:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [+]
Apr 28 12:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	yeah. back in like 1990
Apr 28 12:56:16 <thestringpuller>	i didn't know they had video games in romania
Apr 28 12:56:21 <mircea_popescu>	we had gta, except only the cool kids with computers played it
Apr 28 12:56:30 <thestringpuller>	HAHAHAHAHA
Apr 28 12:56:30 <thestringpuller>	omg
Apr 28 12:56:33 <thestringpuller>	quote stolen
Apr 28 12:56:40 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 28 12:57:23 <thestringpuller>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136706164156.jpg < who is the guy on the top picture?
Apr 28 12:57:27 <thestringpuller>	btw
Apr 28 12:57:39 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller some forum clown
Apr 28 12:58:00 <asciilifeform>	is that the "Class X BTC Supernode" fellow?
Apr 28 12:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.46 = 2.3 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 13:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 28 13:01:44 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu seems the billpay idea actually is working...
Apr 28 13:02:09 <mircea_popescu>	which one is that ?
Apr 28 13:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.312 BTC [-]
Apr 28 13:03:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31200001 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:03:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31499999 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:03:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.315 = 4.095 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:03:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.31999995 = 2.24 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:03:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31999998 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:03:30 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: http://billpayforcoins.com/
Apr 28 13:03:40 <thestringpuller>	i'm sure that's crossed your browser at some point
Apr 28 13:04:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0163 = 0.163 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	Update - 4/25/2013
Apr 28 13:04:11 <mircea_popescu>	Thank you all for checking us out. We are currently working on restructuring our payment backend to be in full compliance with all government regulations. We will be back up as soon as all our ducks are in a row.
Apr 28 13:04:15 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so much for it working.
Apr 28 13:04:35 <thestringpuller>	OH WOW
Apr 28 13:04:37 <thestringpuller>	hahahaha
Apr 28 13:04:38 <troc>	v.interesting, would the coins you spend that way be liable for any taxation as a benefit in kind ?
Apr 28 13:04:55 <thestringpuller>	troc: wouldn't that depend on where you pay from?
Apr 28 13:05:07 <thestringpuller>	pay via a server in africa I wouldn't think so...
Apr 28 13:05:31 <thestringpuller>	WHO THE FUCK IS THIS CLOWN
Apr 28 13:05:33 <thestringpuller>	Riley Alexander
Apr 28 13:05:34 <thestringpuller>	Co - Founder, Idea Engine, Master Hand Shaker
Apr 28 13:05:39 <thestringpuller>	Idea Engine?
Apr 28 13:05:42 <thestringpuller>	MASTER HAND SHAKER?
Apr 28 13:06:01 <thestringpuller>	"Two-Bit Entrepreneur"
Apr 28 13:06:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.468 = 2.808 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:06:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:06:07 *	thestringpuller sighs
Apr 28 13:06:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:06:28 <mircea_popescu>	well i dunno wtf that's all about. here you can pay other people's bills
Apr 28 13:06:33 <mircea_popescu>	i should know.
Apr 28 13:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4701 = 1.4103 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:07:34 <thestringpuller>	come again mircea_popescu ?
Apr 28 13:07:52 <mircea_popescu>	i don't see what regulations they would be breaking.
Apr 28 13:08:00 <mircea_popescu>	so i pay X's bill. sooo ?
Apr 28 13:08:07 <thestringpuller>	ah
Apr 28 13:08:29 <thestringpuller>	I'm just sick of bitcoin entrepreneurs
Apr 28 13:08:40 <thestringpuller>	it's becoming worse than YCombinator shit
Apr 28 13:09:05 <thestringpuller>	"Hey man I have this AWESOME idea. Girls need bra's right? LETS MAKE A WEBSITE TO GET CUSTOM BRAS"
Apr 28 13:09:20 <thestringpuller>	As if Victoria Secret doesn't have that market seized already...
Apr 28 13:09:45 <troc>	billpay : say its the mortgage,  it could be a neat way to avoid capital gains on BTC no ?
Apr 28 13:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller but no panties.
Apr 28 13:13:21 <mircea_popescu>	actually there was this french brand made a fortune by selling bra and panty sets
Apr 28 13:13:31 <mircea_popescu>	except they had one bra and FIVE matching panties in the pack.
Apr 28 13:13:37 <mircea_popescu>	wish i could recall da fuck it was called.
Apr 28 13:15:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3297 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:15:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3298 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:16:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
Apr 28 13:18:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:22:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32989 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:22:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.32999 = 13.2999 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:22:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.331 = 9.317 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:22:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.333334 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 13:27:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.337 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:28:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.32 = 8.64 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 13:28:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00302262 = 3.0226 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:32:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3020 @ 0.00302263 = 9.1283 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:32:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.346 BTC [+]
Apr 28 13:34:42 <kakobrekla>	moar? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.0
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Apr 28 13:42:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3202 BTC [-]
Apr 28 13:43:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3202 BTC [-]
Apr 28 13:43:32 <mircea_popescu>	Our model Our platform is designed to allow the trading of bitcoin for bitcoin.
Apr 28 13:43:35 <mircea_popescu>	logical.
Apr 28 13:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	Who's behind it? Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms.
Apr 28 13:43:49 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Apr 28 13:44:22 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 28 13:45:49 <kakobrekla>	well, dunno why is it so cryptic about it
Apr 28 13:45:54 <kakobrekla>	>BTC.sx is funded privately. We operate with a tier 1 total capital ratio level of 110% minimum.
Apr 28 13:45:58 <kakobrekla>	>Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms.
Apr 28 13:46:07 <kakobrekla>	who again?
Apr 28 13:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	his mom.
Apr 28 13:49:21 <mircea_popescu>	"From what I've googled, I understand that scalping helps lower spreads but ultimately, aren't you just betting upon a upward or downward price movement?"
Apr 28 13:49:23 <mircea_popescu>	him in 2012.
Apr 28 13:49:35 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile experience happened. at the world's most successful banks
Apr 28 13:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	apostrophe's on me.
Apr 28 13:51:46 *	arij is selling btc for bofa transfer/deposit
Apr 28 13:57:29 <arij>	wrong channel
Apr 28 13:59:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.32 = 2.64 BTC [-]
Apr 28 14:00:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.339 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:01:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.34698 = 2.694 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:03:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 85 @ 0.35903146 = 30.5177 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:04:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3171 BTC [-]
Apr 28 14:08:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
Apr 28 14:21:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00065476 = 3.6667 BTC [-]
Apr 28 14:21:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.0006524 = 2.1203 BTC [-]
Apr 28 14:21:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00064 = 2.848 BTC [-]
Apr 28 14:31:46 <ThickAsThieves>	;;nethash
Apr 28 14:31:47 <gribble>	73988.0257577
Apr 28 14:31:50 <ThickAsThieves>	;;tslb
Apr 28 14:31:55 <gribble>	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 7 seconds
Apr 28 14:31:59 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 28 14:32:01 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 9973647.0479 based on data since last change | 10335850.0809 based on data for last three days
Apr 28 14:36:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.00301 = 0.1204 BTC [-]
Apr 28 14:36:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 510 @ 0.003 = 1.53 BTC [-]
Apr 28 14:38:19 <kakobrekla>	sooo, whats new
Apr 28 14:38:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 165 @ 0.01 = 1.65 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:38:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:40:22 <mircea_popescu>	there's a new bitcoin exchange
Apr 28 14:40:27 <mircea_popescu>	there's a new asic producer
Apr 28 14:40:35 <mircea_popescu>	there's a new "investment opportunity"
Apr 28 14:41:08 <kakobrekla>	there's a new "gtfo by mpoe-pr post"
Apr 28 14:41:42 <truff1es>	chat is lively today
Apr 28 14:41:47 <mircea_popescu>	that for sure.
Apr 28 14:42:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:44:05 <kakobrekla>	anyone got cas coins for sale, i need a few moar
Apr 28 14:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.msg1967971#msg1967971
Apr 28 14:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	ask and thou shalt recieve
Apr 28 14:45:40 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 28 14:45:53 <kakobrekla>	is the definition of who shouldnt be doing what getting broader?
Apr 28 14:46:56 <mircea_popescu>	how do you mean ?
Apr 28 14:49:37 <kakobrekla>	moar rant
Apr 28 14:49:37 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189895.msg1968364#msg1968364
Apr 28 14:50:33 <kakobrekla>	bah
Apr 28 14:50:34 <kakobrekla>	typo
Apr 28 14:50:55 <kakobrekla>	fixd
Apr 28 14:58:50 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4423 @ 0.00066115 = 2.9243 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:58:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4965 @ 0.00068029 = 3.3776 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:59:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00069403 = 3.6784 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00069498 = 0.834 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:59:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00069884 = 5.5907 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:59:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00071 = 2.4495 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:59:13 <benkay>	for all the bile and hate about children building technology from MPOEPR we have no idea who makes up mircea's team
Apr 28 14:59:29 <mircea_popescu>	not following the chan are you :p
Apr 28 14:59:43 <kakobrekla>	i think i got contacted by a scammer and he is trying to sell some cas coins (and i think he doest even know what that is)
Apr 28 14:59:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+]
Apr 28 14:59:49 <kakobrekla>	lets have some fun
Apr 28 14:59:50 <ThickAsThieves>	<mircea_popescu> Who's behind it? Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms.
Apr 28 14:59:55 <ThickAsThieves>	kidding!
Apr 28 15:00:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+]
Apr 28 15:00:21 <benkay>	chan's not terribly persistent or searchable
Apr 28 15:01:07 <kakobrekla>	assbot has been keeping logs for a few days now
Apr 28 15:01:08 <mircea_popescu>	benkay k 1 sec
Apr 28 15:01:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3148 @ 0.00071 = 2.2351 BTC [+]
Apr 28 15:01:12 *	BTCOxygen is now known as Oxygen
Apr 28 15:01:17 <kakobrekla>	ill make it public soonish
Apr 28 15:01:22 <kakobrekla>	and searchable i guess
Apr 28 15:01:42 *	Oxygen is now known as Guest44299
Apr 28 15:01:46 <ThickAsThieves>	I have logs for most of the past month or two
Apr 28 15:01:52 *	Guest44299 is now known as BTCOxygen
Apr 28 15:02:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49514 @ 0.00071 = 35.1549 BTC [+]
Apr 28 15:02:19 <kakobrekla>	i have logs from 1 year ago but they are all fucked up
Apr 28 15:02:22 <benkay>	i'm trying to highlight the double standard of "no pro-grade team called out on site, where team is expected to be called out" vs the MPEx approach which is "MPEx is run by someone well versed in power dynamics and getting people to do things. trust him to select the right people to do things."
Apr 28 15:02:35 <benkay>	chat logs are not public declaration of team makeup.
Apr 28 15:02:42 <benkay>	they're chat logs.
Apr 28 15:03:32 <kakobrekla>	thats another issue
Apr 28 15:03:34 <truff1es>	oh snap
Apr 28 15:03:52 <mircea_popescu>	benkay http://pastebin.com/VJ2W6xg4
Apr 28 15:03:54 <mircea_popescu>	towards the end
Apr 28 15:03:55 <truff1es>	benkay did u miss the show and tell picture
Apr 28 15:04:49 <benkay>	nope
Apr 28 15:04:53 <benkay>	but who are those humans?
Apr 28 15:05:04 <benkay>	"cfo"
Apr 28 15:05:08 <benkay>	"lead counsel"
Apr 28 15:05:09 <truff1es>	i dunno who are who
Apr 28 15:05:16 <truff1es>	just the woman and mp
Apr 28 15:05:18 <benkay>	"exercise to reader"
Apr 28 15:05:19 <benkay>	rly?
Apr 28 15:05:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+]
Apr 28 15:05:31 <benkay>	no names
Apr 28 15:05:33 <benkay>	no employment histories
Apr 28 15:05:35 <truff1es>	those things dont concern me lol
Apr 28 15:05:38 <mircea_popescu>	heh. mkay.
Apr 28 15:05:43 <benkay>	no demonstrations of past success.
Apr 28 15:05:48 <mircea_popescu>	martha is already named there. she's named on the domain registratiosn too.
Apr 28 15:05:49 <mircea_popescu>	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2002JulSep/0110.html
Apr 28 15:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	for instance.
Apr 28 15:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:06:24 <mircea_popescu>	the famous court proceedings where i beat back the romanian govt had been amply linked but i guess you never saw that.
Apr 28 15:06:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+]
Apr 28 15:06:32 <mircea_popescu>	guy's name is florin cristescu, it's all over that.
Apr 28 15:06:32 <truff1es>	trades should be concerned about separation of funds and profits imo
Apr 28 15:06:34 <benkay>	have not, not.
Apr 28 15:06:47 <mircea_popescu>	in other words : none of this is a secret, it's known by people who care to know as it were.
Apr 28 15:08:02 <benkay>	but if I say, 'dear mircea_popescu, where would I go to learn about the amazing team you've assembled to run your business?' your answer is 'do some research, child'
Apr 28 15:08:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.002753 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:08:39 <mircea_popescu>	you do see why dominant position would ensure one such luxury
Apr 28 15:08:40 <benkay>	which induces a bit of culture shock, in that i generally expect people to be proud of the team they work with, and eager to show that they're above board and real grownups etc.
Apr 28 15:08:44 <benkay>	oh of course
Apr 28 15:08:46 <mircea_popescu>	whereas being an upstart would not ?
Apr 28 15:08:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:09:12 <mircea_popescu>	after all, i'm not proving myself to random unknown noob on the forum
Apr 28 15:09:14 <mircea_popescu>	he is proving himself to me.
Apr 28 15:09:21 <mircea_popescu>	trust is this directional affair.
Apr 28 15:09:38 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I just sold some panties for 1 bitcoin
Apr 28 15:09:41 <mircea_popescu>	if he doesn't trust me that's pretty much of no import. if i don't trust him that's a serious impairment on his future.
Apr 28 15:10:27 <thestringpuller>	we should drop this exchange nonsense and get into the lingerie business yo
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Apr 28 15:11:10 <truff1es>	used panties?
Apr 28 15:11:15 <kakobrekla>	hm panties4btc
Apr 28 15:11:56 <benkay>	I guess I'm just bemused by the difference in approach towards image in your area.
Apr 28 15:12:07 <benkay>	"but i lols so powerful image is nothing"
Apr 28 15:12:26 <mircea_popescu>	i don't follow benkay ?
Apr 28 15:12:44 <benkay>	big American companies are obsessed with image.
Apr 28 15:13:02 <benkay>	big American investors are obsessed with image.
Apr 28 15:13:06 <benkay>	transparency, etc.
Apr 28 15:13:25 <FabianB>	image != transparency
Apr 28 15:13:35 <mircea_popescu>	yeah i thin kthere's some conflation at work here.
Apr 28 15:13:38 <benkay>	image = f(transparency and other shit)
Apr 28 15:14:10 <mircea_popescu>	not really, no. but anyway. it isn't/never was a matter of "do some research child". in the sense that i answered if asked, but in general stuff is known.
Apr 28 15:15:32 <benkay>	so returning to culture shock, I'm accustomed to things being indexed instead of known
Apr 28 15:15:45 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 28 15:15:56 <mircea_popescu>	hey, it's btc you know ?
Apr 28 15:16:04 <mircea_popescu>	i'm giving a slightly different approach a go.
Apr 28 15:16:09 <benkay>	and you're endeavoring to write new rules, I get it.
Apr 28 15:16:24 <mircea_popescu>	well at least make some motherfucking sense
Apr 28 15:16:27 <ThickAsThieves>	benkay, i suspect mp's people would prefer their privacy over "image"
Apr 28 15:16:34 <ThickAsThieves>	i know i would
Apr 28 15:16:37 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves some care more than others.
Apr 28 15:16:53 <mircea_popescu>	it's an issue here, i mean : for years the ONLY way you could get anyone with any sort of license to even consider bitcoin
Apr 28 15:17:03 <mircea_popescu>	is if you swore on dead saints you will never release their name
Apr 28 15:17:12 <benkay>	so this veers into philosophy and prognostication, but how much longer can anyone expect any information to remain unindexed?
Apr 28 15:17:19 <mircea_popescu>	this because being a financial professional is highly regulated, they'd have to get an ok from their compliance officer,
Apr 28 15:17:23 <mircea_popescu>	which would never happen etc.
Apr 28 15:17:49 <benkay>	consider bitcoin what?
Apr 28 15:17:53 <mircea_popescu>	benkay indefinitely in principle. unless something happens to show me the model is fundamentally flawed, i think it will carry on forever.
Apr 28 15:18:06 <mircea_popescu>	benkay consider bitcoin. in their head.
Apr 28 15:18:34 <benkay>	but if you hire them and their compliance officer?did you contract with existing financial firms to do accounting and backoffice etc?
Apr 28 15:19:11 <benkay>	also I hate asking questions that have been answered already. aversion to repetition and all that.
Apr 28 15:19:16 <mircea_popescu>	no listen. the year is 2011. i get excited about this new btc thing. i know what it needs to have a chance. i know i need help. i know whose help i need.
Apr 28 15:19:25 <mircea_popescu>	i talk to these people. well... they can't get involved.
Apr 28 15:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	so what now /
Apr 28 15:19:47 <benkay>	why can't they get involved? risking their licensure?
Apr 28 15:19:48 <truff1es>	its 2013
Apr 28 15:20:03 <mircea_popescu>	do you know how this profession is organised ?
Apr 28 15:20:18 <benkay>	in the us? to an extent. in romania? no clue.
Apr 28 15:20:27 <benkay>	and which profession?
Apr 28 15:21:19 <ThickAsThieves>	I'm not sure why eother of you think this conversation will go anywhere
Apr 28 15:21:30 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves naivite.
Apr 28 15:21:30 <benkay>	mp knows i'm actually trying to learn stuff
Apr 28 15:21:50 <mircea_popescu>	benkay basically, it's a team of people with various types of licenses, a boss, a compliance officer and some more sdupport roles.
Apr 28 15:22:06 <mircea_popescu>	the rule - simplified - is that nobody can get involved into ANYTHING related to their day job even vaguely
Apr 28 15:22:12 <mircea_popescu>	w/o clearing it with the compliance officer.
Apr 28 15:22:22 <mircea_popescu>	this includes things like giving interviews even.
Apr 28 15:22:31 <benkay>	got it. so everyone's doing this as a side job?
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Apr 28 15:22:46 <mircea_popescu>	people (actual people in this chan) have been sacked for nonsense like, telling a reporter they make a lot of money and are living the life.
Apr 28 15:23:02 <truff1es>	that would suck
Apr 28 15:23:06 <mircea_popescu>	now. the compliance officer is NEVER going to ok something like "bitcoin". because he only ok's on positive factual knowledge it's ok.
Apr 28 15:23:14 <mircea_popescu>	so if it's dubious, then it's not gettiong ok.
Apr 28 15:24:21 <mircea_popescu>	so, to round this up : for all the bullshit "we're getting ws involved" coming out of purely puff style start-ups like coin-whatever,
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Apr 28 15:24:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3001 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:24:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:24:34 <mircea_popescu>	ws people were involved since 2011/early 2012, in the only way they could be.
Apr 28 15:24:39 <mircea_popescu>	which is, secretly.
Apr 28 15:24:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:24:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:25:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269001 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:25:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.269 = 19.035 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:26:19 <benkay>	that makes a startling amount of sense.
Apr 28 15:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	that's as to why you will likely never know who's on my short list of people i talk to / scream at / with on macroeconomic topics, finance etc.
Apr 28 15:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	now, the coders are often uninterested in talking to the public.
Apr 28 15:26:43 <mircea_popescu>	other than that, some people don't care, which is why you get the names/mugs of some people.
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Apr 28 15:28:28 <benkay>	and you anticipate maintaining the privacy wall indefinitely?
Apr 28 15:28:40 <mircea_popescu>	0/1/infinity is the rule
Apr 28 15:28:48 <benkay>	hah
Apr 28 15:28:50 <mircea_popescu>	since i'm doing it it's not 0. unless some sort of obvious 1 hits me over the head
Apr 28 15:28:52 <mircea_popescu>	it's infinity.
Apr 28 15:29:31 <ThickAsThieves>	so at this get together, did some people not tell others who they were?
Apr 28 15:29:41 <ThickAsThieves>	or do all involved know eachother's identity
Apr 28 15:29:59 <mircea_popescu>	some people met in person lol. some haven't. each his cup of tea
Apr 28 15:30:22 <benkay>	0 information leakage is a secret kept by 1 person. some information leakage happens when more than 1 person knows stuff. eventually, all information will leak. infinity?
Apr 28 15:30:26 <ThickAsThieves>	its obv much cooler if some attendees used fake names
Apr 28 15:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	ya, eventually all information will leak which is why you know who killed kennedy or w/e
Apr 28 15:31:13 <benkay>	hm.
Apr 28 15:31:21 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 28 15:31:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2681 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:31:33 <benkay>	that's more of a signal to noise claim, sir.
Apr 28 15:31:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.268 = 2.536 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:31:59 <mircea_popescu>	just making the point that information will leak is this proposition of statistics
Apr 28 15:32:04 <mircea_popescu>	it may be true, but it may not help you.
Apr 28 15:32:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2671 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:32:21 <benkay>	oh granted
Apr 28 15:32:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.267 = 8.869 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:32:34 <benkay>	but there's lots of noise in the market and some traders manage to beat the mean year after year
Apr 28 15:32:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:32:40 <mircea_popescu>	well other than that i was answering the q of how long im doing something
Apr 28 15:32:43 <mircea_popescu>	not how long it works
Apr 28 15:32:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [-]
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Apr 28 15:33:01 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: what about information which leaks once its harmless?
Apr 28 15:33:08 <ezdiy>	to lump it all together does not seem right
Apr 28 15:33:14 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 28 15:33:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.251 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:33:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2501 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:33:32 <ThickAsThieves>	it's amazing how this conversation gets more and more interesting
Apr 28 15:33:35 <ezdiy>	(but the statistics holds indeed)
Apr 28 15:33:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:33:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [-]
Apr 28 15:33:48 <kakobrekla>	ThickAsThieves you just fucked it up
Apr 28 15:33:58 <truff1es>	yep wasnt even me
Apr 28 15:33:59 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 28 15:34:03 <ThickAsThieves>	;)
Apr 28 15:34:13 <ThickAsThieves>	any time
Apr 28 15:35:05 <ThickAsThieves>	but really, it started as benkay asking what give mpoe-pr/mpex/mp the right to question others experience, and turned into, i dunno
Apr 28 15:35:18 <benkay>	no not question
Apr 28 15:35:22 <benkay>	everyone has the right to question
Apr 28 15:35:44 <truff1es>	i thought he wanted to know their level of experience or image..
Apr 28 15:35:48 <benkay>	expressed shock at attitude of "who are you" when we know, like, MP
Apr 28 15:35:51 <ThickAsThieves>	sometimes my words mean more than what the dictionarys defines them as
Apr 28 15:36:07 <kakobrekla>	i think that means using it wrong
Apr 28 15:36:20 <ThickAsThieves>	i prefer "creatively"
Apr 28 15:36:30 <truff1es>	creatively failing
Apr 28 15:36:38 <truff1es>	benkay good chat
Apr 28 15:37:07 <truff1es>	even though it made mp look less of an ass to me, still gonna throw in my jabs
Apr 28 15:37:09 <benkay>	success in comms is expressing things in a way that everyone understands
Apr 28 15:37:20 <benkay>	failure in comms is ambiguity
Apr 28 15:37:29 <ThickAsThieves>	did realize what i said was so confusing...
Apr 28 15:37:40 <ThickAsThieves>	didnt*
Apr 28 15:37:56 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: do you have steam?
Apr 28 15:37:59 <mircea_popescu>	nope
Apr 28 15:38:00 <thestringpuller>	I'ma buy you the GTA complete pack
Apr 28 15:38:04 <Scrat>	boring conversation
Apr 28 15:38:07 <Scrat>	http://i.imgur.com/5nvlW.gif
Apr 28 15:38:57 <truff1es>	did not expect that at all
Apr 28 15:39:38 <Scrat>	(sfw)
Apr 28 15:39:50 <truff1es>	not
Apr 28 15:40:24 <truff1es>	if u linked it in -nsfw maybe expected
Apr 28 15:40:35 <Scrat>	I used to work close to the beach, would be sfw then
Apr 28 15:41:07 <truff1es>	not very many people fit into that, lifeguard?
Apr 28 15:43:34 <Scrat>	sadly no
Apr 28 15:52:08 <jurov>	folks, if there is anyone still interested in MPOE bonds passthrough or has workable ideas,
Apr 28 15:52:24 <jurov>	discuss here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1968876#msg1968876
Apr 28 15:52:43 <jurov>	We have one month hiatus to come up with something.
Apr 28 15:52:58 <dub>	;;nethash
Apr 28 15:53:00 <gribble>	73971.4334572
Apr 28 15:56:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 378.21006095 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 75 satoshi per share
Apr 28 15:57:20 <benkay>	wowee
Apr 28 15:57:50 <jurov>	ooooook
Apr 28 15:58:14 <mircea_popescu>	that's it, one full year of dividends ftw.
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Apr 28 16:01:37 <jurov>	;;calc  37821006095/500000000
Apr 28 16:01:37 <gribble>	75.64201219
Apr 28 16:03:02 <jurov>	why my fkn code insists on 39 satoshi?
Apr 28 16:03:28 <mircea_popescu>	jurov maybe an idea is to get a limited hedging involved.
Apr 28 16:03:55 <mircea_popescu>	as in, buy some options on the same package as the bond. maybe everyone buying shares gets to vote which way to go, calls or puts
Apr 28 16:04:23 <mircea_popescu>	course all this is becoming rather complicated.
Apr 28 16:05:00 <jurov>	and then vote when they should be sold/exercised.. yeah
Apr 28 16:05:33 <jurov>	(that was ironic yeah)
Apr 28 16:05:53 <mircea_popescu>	yeah i know...
Apr 28 16:06:13 <ThickAsThieves>	I wanted to do an options fund, but current pricing makes it seem like it'd most likely be a loser as well
Apr 28 16:06:15 <jurov>	i had some preliminary idea with smickles to have alternative bot
Apr 28 16:06:24 <jurov>	that could also hedge per option sold
Apr 28 16:06:31 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well listen you can't BOTH be losers.
Apr 28 16:06:45 <jurov>	but he's not around anymore
Apr 28 16:06:46 <mircea_popescu>	i am suspecting the bot is exactly right because everyone agrees price is making them lose money
Apr 28 16:07:09 <ThickAsThieves>	bot is def playing it smarter
Apr 28 16:07:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2551 BTC [+]
Apr 28 16:07:43 <ThickAsThieves>	but opportunity for profit for both bond holders and option buyers has been very minimized
Apr 28 16:07:49 <mircea_popescu>	no but let's run a model here. so, 1k btc bond.
Apr 28 16:08:07 <mircea_popescu>	if past data is any indication, say a 200% upswing or 60% downswing causes losses of about 25%
Apr 28 16:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	so then you need calls that will make 250 btc if price goes up 3x
Apr 28 16:08:27 <mircea_popescu>	and puts that make 250 btc if price goes down 60%
Apr 28 16:09:08 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 28 16:09:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.10000, Best ask: 132.39998, Bid-ask spread: 0.29998, Last trade: 132.40000, 24 hour volume: 29432.97051216, 24 hour low: 126.01101, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 132.09045
Apr 28 16:09:13 <mircea_popescu>	132*3
Apr 28 16:09:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 132*3
Apr 28 16:09:20 <gribble>	396
Apr 28 16:09:45 <mircea_popescu>	O.USD.C302T for instance will make about .25 each if price goes there. so you need 100 these
Apr 28 16:09:46 <ThickAsThieves>	*could* happen...
Apr 28 16:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	i mean 1000 these
Apr 28 16:09:56 <mircea_popescu>	so they cost like 70 btc.
Apr 28 16:10:05 <mircea_popescu>	the call side cost to hedge the bond is then 7%
Apr 28 16:10:25 <tiberiusiv>	shut up mircea
Apr 28 16:10:28 <mircea_popescu>	(if these numbers are worth a shit at all)
Apr 28 16:10:38 <tiberiusiv>	youve lost enough bitcoins for people
Apr 28 16:10:45 <tiberiusiv>	nobody is going to lend your shitty bond fund more $
Apr 28 16:10:56 <tiberiusiv>	the options emporium will be dead within 2-3 more months
Apr 28 16:11:15 <tiberiusiv>	who is stupid enough to continue insuring against bitcoin price volatility
Apr 28 16:11:34 <ThickAsThieves>	problem is, the price is more likely to move maybe 50% upward, or 25% downward this month (very roughly speaking)
Apr 28 16:11:42 <tiberiusiv>	no shit
Apr 28 16:11:52 <Scrat>	lol ThickAsThieves
Apr 28 16:12:20 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves so then sell short puts/calls
Apr 28 16:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	that'll make you money in that scenario
Apr 28 16:13:27 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not interested in creating options
Apr 28 16:13:43 <ThickAsThieves>	too much risk ;)
Apr 28 16:13:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i want easy money obv
Apr 28 16:14:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26502 BTC [+]
Apr 28 16:14:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-]
Apr 28 16:15:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [-]
Apr 28 16:15:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Apr 28 16:17:50 <mircea_popescu>	ya well, sometimes those curves meet
Apr 28 16:17:59 <mircea_popescu>	fear, greed, cleverness
Apr 28 16:20:21 <KRS-1>	thickasthieves what a good buy point ya think
Apr 28 16:20:41 <KRS-1>	i cashed out at $147 for the most part
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Apr 28 16:21:56 <ThickAsThieves>	isnt that kinda q what bitc-anal channel is for?
Apr 28 16:22:46 <ThickAsThieves>	but to answer your question, i have bids lined up incrementally from 126ish downward
Apr 28 16:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	“Birchbox requested 300,000 units of a product for free; in return, they said that could offer a conservative purchase order of 400 units for that product if it was received well by their sampling audience.” Birchbox also requested a special sample size, which Ms. Chan would need to create, that would yield at least 3 uses of the product. After Ms. Chan negotiated with them, they lowered the amount of requested fre
Apr 28 16:24:52 <mircea_popescu>	e product to 75,000 and then to 50,000 units (for a more targeted customer base). Birchbox only wanted to pay for a purchase order of 400 units after receiving 50,000 units for free.
Apr 28 16:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	lmao. basically people think cheek equals business nao
Apr 28 16:25:38 <KRS-1>	Mircea is the owner and master of #bitcoin-anal, if he can find it in his good will, I would not mind being Curator of all culture anal that is also bitcoin.
Apr 28 16:26:05 <KRS-1>	Ya thanks for your insight, thats where I was but I pulled down to $110-$105 and $100 when I saw the rising wedge pattern.
Apr 28 16:26:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]
Apr 28 16:27:09 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?
Apr 28 16:27:30 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 28 16:30:08 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla you need a better forum avatar.
Apr 28 16:30:25 <Scrat>	me too
Apr 28 16:30:28 <Scrat>	too furry for my taste
Apr 28 16:30:56 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134679696766.jpg
Apr 28 16:30:59 <mircea_popescu>	crop that for instance.
Apr 28 16:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.32 = 2.56 BTC [+]
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Apr 28 16:38:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 59 @ 0.0163 = 0.9617 BTC [+]
Apr 28 16:39:36 <KRS-1>	I'd hit that
Apr 28 16:39:59 <KRS-1>	not my taste but damn
Apr 28 16:42:54 <benkay>	"big girls need love too"
Apr 28 16:45:43 <jurov>	lol i meant to have serious word with mpex staff, but was under impression they are not there
Apr 28 16:46:00 <jurov>	now i'm reading i sat practically next to the cto, martha
Apr 28 16:46:54 <jurov>	plus got blindsided by teh lawyer "we dun do english, it's unlike romanian"
Apr 28 16:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	jurov lol. he's not very english friendly
Apr 28 16:48:13 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, girl next to the lawyer is the cfo
Apr 28 16:48:15 <mircea_popescu>	money girl.
Apr 28 16:48:47 <jurov>	"and in the top pic right under me woman behind chair is martha mcculler, my cto" << so you accidentally a letter
Apr 28 16:49:11 <jurov>	oh there are wo women
Apr 28 16:49:29 <ThickAsThieves>	but who took the photos
Apr 28 16:49:32 <ThickAsThieves>	a slave?
Apr 28 16:49:50 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves: they have waitresses in romania, ya know
Apr 28 16:49:57 <ThickAsThieves>	pshaw
Apr 28 16:51:16 <jurov>	okay, nevermind
Apr 28 16:53:01 <jurov>	the lawyer was actually trying to do something in english. but then i mentioned german,and *then* he got derpy
Apr 28 16:54:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.1999 = 0.9995 BTC [+]
Apr 28 16:54:02 <jurov>	so i should prolly learn french, italian, romanian, or gypsy or whatever to be able to talk to mpex lawyer...
Apr 28 16:54:36 <ThickAsThieves>	heh, there's a my little pony called Derpy https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIF1scwXYZkmC1WaLxSZEq31VPMnkMGxnAjYuBhmtTBxcSt_VJ
Apr 28 16:56:15 <jurov>	mircea, tell him "te šukar čhavo" from me
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Apr 28 16:56:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.17 = 1.7 BTC [-]
Apr 28 16:57:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.30839 BTC [+]
Apr 28 16:58:23 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 28 16:58:38 <mircea_popescu>	what do you need romanian lawyer for anyway ?
Apr 28 16:58:48 <jurov>	just in case
Apr 28 16:58:53 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Apr 28 16:59:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0165 = 0.0825 BTC [+]
Apr 28 17:00:01 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 28 17:00:04 <mircea_popescu>	jurov actually when i paid on saturday i left a tip saying "and this is for excellent photographic services" poiting at the little cute girl that took pics
Apr 28 17:00:04 <gribble>	There are currently 161956.19 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14094287.1966 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0093 seconds
Apr 28 17:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	and she got all blushed up
Apr 28 17:00:19 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 200
Apr 28 17:00:20 <gribble>	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 200.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.8877 seconds
Apr 28 17:00:25 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 28 17:00:26 <gribble>	There are currently 77298.99 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 12819857.1188 USD in total. | Data vintage: 22.0946 seconds
Apr 28 17:00:32 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 150
Apr 28 17:00:33 <gribble>	There are currently 20345.892 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 2904644.02498 USD in total. | Data vintage: 28.8253 seconds
Apr 28 17:00:39 <mircea_popescu>	this after me asking her if she knows about picture taking which i think she misunderstood as being asked whether she;'d like to pose for us
Apr 28 17:00:40 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 120
Apr 28 17:00:41 <gribble>	There are currently 29728.823 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 3697689.88514 USD in total. | Data vintage: 37.0461 seconds
Apr 28 17:00:47 <jurov>	^^^ ThickAsThieves, you see: no slavery involved
Apr 28 17:02:02 <ThickAsThieves>	oh well
Apr 28 17:03:56 <FabianB>	jurov: so you're the one in dark clothes in front of mp?
Apr 28 17:05:22 <jurov>	no, mpoe-pr's knee points to me
Apr 28 17:06:11 <ThickAsThieves>	goatee and glasses?
Apr 28 17:06:18 <ThickAsThieves>	you look a LOT like my brother
Apr 28 17:07:05 <jurov>	no thanks. i have a doppelganger in my neighborhood already
Apr 28 17:07:36 <jurov>	actually i was waiting on a bus stop and got greeted "hi thomas.. uh.. it's you?"
Apr 28 17:07:44 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 28 17:07:55 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 28 17:09:05 <mircea_popescu>	i wonder how long it takes till everyone is identified
Apr 28 17:09:15 <jurov>	obv i never noticed him myself... prolly am not looking into mirror often enough
Apr 28 17:09:18 <mircea_popescu>	talking about benkay's eternal secrecy.
Apr 28 17:09:26 <benkay>	wat
Apr 28 17:09:31 <mircea_popescu>	apparently even posting pics takes > 1 week and even so it's mostly selfouting
Apr 28 17:10:00 <benkay>	watman
Apr 28 17:10:14 <mircea_popescu>	benkay conspiraci!
Apr 28 17:10:14 <benkay>	i hold that eternal secrecy is extremely difficult to enforce
Apr 28 17:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	well ya
Apr 28 17:10:36 <benkay>	but you have an edge in scale of conspiracy :)
Apr 28 17:10:48 <benkay>	big banks rig all of the things and it takes years for the proles to figure it out
Apr 28 17:10:52 <benkay>	but that's because proles
Apr 28 17:11:04 <benkay>	time to go bask in sun with wimmins
Apr 28 17:11:07 <benkay>	and dogs
Apr 28 17:11:10 <benkay>	later all
Apr 28 17:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	take pics
Apr 28 17:11:19 <mircea_popescu>	then we identify the dogs.
Apr 28 17:11:28 <benkay>	har
Apr 28 17:11:46 <jurov>	also, pigeons was there:
Apr 28 17:11:53 <jurov>	https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/923355_10151462244158710_569991901_n.jpg
Apr 28 17:15:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3079 BTC [-]
Apr 28 17:16:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3084 BTC [+]
Apr 28 17:17:13 <ThickAsThieves>	it would be fun to know which forum personalities were there and guess who was who
Apr 28 17:17:26 <ThickAsThieves>	i actually had guessed ccorrectly which was jurov
Apr 28 17:17:52 <jurov>	from the pigeons photo? congrats
Apr 28 17:18:28 <ThickAsThieves>	forum/irc
Apr 28 17:18:33 <ThickAsThieves>	no from the dinner photos
Apr 28 17:26:46 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu i need a better avatar??
Apr 28 17:26:52 <kakobrekla>	whats wrong with this one
Apr 28 17:26:58 <mircea_popescu>	well wtf is it
Apr 28 17:27:16 <kakobrekla>	seriously?
Apr 28 17:27:51 <mircea_popescu>	well not that seriously :D
Apr 28 17:27:56 <kakobrekla>	its from space odyssey 2001
Apr 28 17:28:27 <kakobrekla>	i just really like clarke
Apr 28 17:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	https://code.google.com/p/google-glass-kernel-source/
Apr 28 17:32:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00070741 = 24.0873 BTC [-]
Apr 28 17:33:04 <kakobrekla>	http://imgur.com/WxnxWDU
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Apr 28 17:34:27 <kakobrekla>	lol bitstamp, email response after 12 days.
Apr 28 17:34:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 240 @ 0.31992958 = 76.7831 BTC [+]
Apr 28 17:34:42 <kakobrekla>	they are acting all goxxy and shit
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Apr 28 17:36:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3146 BTC [+]
Apr 28 17:36:56 <KRS-1>	looks like we heading down son
Apr 28 17:37:09 <mircea_popescu>	lmao insanely bleak advice
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Apr 28 17:38:28 <KRS-1>	i mean up
Apr 28 17:38:30 <KRS-1>	lol
Apr 28 17:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 28 17:38:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.51485, Best ask: 134.26987, Bid-ask spread: 0.75502, Last trade: 133.51484, 24 hour volume: 27266.58910626, 24 hour low: 126.51000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 132.73170
Apr 28 17:38:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C170N] 24 @ 0.41105585 = 9.8653 BTC
Apr 28 17:39:06 <mircea_popescu>	!t m ^oix
Apr 28 17:39:07 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.96737151 / 213.47292862 / 218.28703767 (419 shares, 115.18 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 28 17:39:15 <mircea_popescu>	well if you believe the oix...
Apr 28 17:39:17 <KRS-1>	and down i dont mean by a lot, its been $135/$136 I mean down by $132/$130 maybe
Apr 28 17:39:29 <KRS-1>	im just looking at what i can see from orders
Apr 28 17:42:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+]
Apr 28 17:45:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.000714 = 3.57 BTC [+]
Apr 28 17:45:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 921 @ 0.00071424 = 0.6578 BTC [+]
Apr 28 17:45:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00071432 = 1.2708 BTC [+]
Apr 28 17:46:51 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
Apr 28 17:47:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 82000 @ 0.00175 = 143.5 BTC [+]
Apr 28 17:49:49 <truff1es>	<kakobrekla> http://imgur.com/WxnxWDU >>> good times
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Apr 28 17:53:22 <truff1es>	http://imgur.com/r/WTF/IopePxm that one is just too much, how can he not notice!
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Apr 28 17:58:51 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 120
Apr 28 17:58:54 <gribble>	There are currently 28426.554 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 3530329.68514 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0108 seconds
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Apr 28 18:06:55 <dub>	HOLD ON
Apr 28 18:07:15 <mircea_popescu>	SoulKhan do i know you from twitter ?
Apr 28 18:07:31 <SoulKhan>	idk
Apr 28 18:07:35 <mircea_popescu>	a kk.
Apr 28 18:08:00 <dub>	you know him from the streets
Apr 28 18:08:19 <dub>	and your jew rap roots
Apr 28 18:08:23 <SoulKhan>	serving up those lyrical treats :)
Apr 28 18:08:37 <SoulKhan>	lol
Apr 28 18:08:40 <mircea_popescu>	lolk
Apr 28 18:11:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
Apr 28 18:11:51 <jurov>	kakobrekla, you fiddling with modes again? ThickAsThieves can't go in
Apr 28 18:12:04 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Apr 28 18:12:42 <jurov>	Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
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Apr 28 18:16:44 <ezdiy>	jurov: romstina je neco jako stredoevropsky esperanto :)
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Apr 28 18:18:30 <jurov>	a cestina svetovy jazyk :)
Apr 28 18:19:05 <mircea_popescu>	well why doesn't he register!
Apr 28 18:19:08 <mircea_popescu>	it's good for health
Apr 28 18:22:48 <mjr___>	hi all
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Apr 28 18:23:53 <jurov>	mjr_ hi. have you seen latest reptilia's microeconomics lesson?
Apr 28 18:24:19 <jurov>	it caused me giggling attacks for several hours
Apr 28 18:24:22 <peterl>	hi mjr___
Apr 28 18:24:46 <peterl>	what did reprillia do?
Apr 28 18:25:15 <mircea_popescu>	jurov link ?
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Apr 28 18:25:35 <jurov>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.120;topicseen
Apr 28 18:25:54 <jurov>	his burn rate computations
Apr 28 18:26:03 <jurov>	lemme aim...
Apr 28 18:27:31 <mircea_popescu>	ty
Apr 28 18:27:42 <jurov>	whatever, just read it wohle carefully. seems everyone finds some different kind of utter ridiculousness there
Apr 28 18:28:16 <jurov>	I was operating at a peak $200k per month burnrate at that moment, so just out of curiosity I calculated, how large a stash of bitcoins would be needed, to keep up such a spending permanently.
Apr 28 18:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	we already had a round earlier, when he was inviting me goat and satoshi
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Apr 28 18:28:40 <ThickAsThieves>	never had this ident problem before, if there's someone that can pm me to help set up mu mIRC properly, it'd be appreciated
Apr 28 18:28:45 <jurov>	yes, but i don't see anything about this burn rate theory
Apr 28 18:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves you seem id'd now
Apr 28 18:29:14 <kakobrekla>	I have currently increased the size of my organisation, and reserved some prime resources (such as the most expensive by far hotel suite in Finland) for my exclusive use. My burn rate is currently about $200,000 per month if I continue at this level. It may sound like much, but measured hourly, it is a more understandable $278 (about 2,000mBTC). Since most of the resources are contracted at a daily rate (such as the hotel) or even hourly (
Apr 28 18:29:17 <kakobrekla>	what more do you want
Apr 28 18:29:23 <kakobrekla>	did it got cut?
Apr 28 18:29:31 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought i had it all in my settings already, but now i also need to know how to change my pass
Apr 28 18:29:39 <ThickAsThieves>	which doesnt seem to be in the options
Apr 28 18:29:43 <kakobrekla>	(most of the staff, taxi, etc.), I can adjust the burn rate in quick order if need be. I plan on spending at this rate until midnight (8.5 more hours), and keep the room till noon, tomorrow. After that my organisation will be readjusted at about $25 per hour (about 200mBTC).
Apr 28 18:29:51 <jurov>	yes. this should be teached in personal finance classes
Apr 28 18:31:01 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla roflmao
Apr 28 18:31:10 <mjr___>	lol, who is this guy?
Apr 28 18:31:18 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1950796#msg1950796
Apr 28 18:31:19 <kakobrekla>	thar
Apr 28 18:31:58 <mircea_popescu>	mjr___ seems you're not on his invite list.
Apr 28 18:32:32 <jurov>	oh, and i forgot... shall we conspire to put ganjix on hisinvite list somehow?
Apr 28 18:33:23 <jurov>	maybe we can concoct something with wao
Apr 28 18:34:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
Apr 28 18:34:06 <mircea_popescu>	jurov the part where he goes "I purposely omitted people not in this forum from the list." but then invites me is pretty cool.
Apr 28 18:35:22 <jurov>	also, phinnaeus and atlas would be prudent to have
Apr 28 18:35:40 <mircea_popescu>	well then go for maria too
Apr 28 18:35:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.19989 = 0.3998 BTC [-]
Apr 28 18:35:59 <asciilifeform>	can somebody enlighten me re: what's interesting about the rpietila clown? is there proof that even one of the things he's claimed is true?
Apr 28 18:36:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
Apr 28 18:36:38 <kakobrekla>	theres proof on facebook.
Apr 28 18:36:51 <wao>	hm?
Apr 28 18:36:58 <asciilifeform>	and has anyone checked the EXIF strings in his photos for interesting tidbits?
Apr 28 18:37:43 <jurov>	asciilifeform, it's not whether it is true, it's the epic ridiculousness of all and every detail
Apr 28 18:38:13 <asciilifeform>	to my untrained eye, he seems like a comedian trying to spoof MP
Apr 28 18:38:19 <truff1es>	sounds like you want to stalk him
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Apr 28 18:38:37 <mircea_popescu>	why does everyone think he;'s trying to spoof me ?
Apr 28 18:38:42 <asciilifeform>	truffles: I don't believe the man exists as described
Apr 28 18:38:44 <mircea_popescu>	why not maxkeiser ? why not mega ?
Apr 28 18:38:53 <mircea_popescu>	why not whoever other bitcoin jezuz
Apr 28 18:39:13 <truff1es>	why couldnt he?
Apr 28 18:39:17 <mircea_popescu>	also : he deleted his post going "here is proof that at least 3 women attended" ?!
Apr 28 18:39:33 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the "BTC vampire billionaire" image
Apr 28 18:39:34 <mircea_popescu>	(of which one's the mother of the other two by the sour mouth)
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Apr 28 18:41:28 <asciilifeform>	somebody intends to test the "pound of image is worth an once of performance" hypothesis
Apr 28 18:41:39 <asciilifeform>	*damn, reversed
Apr 28 18:41:52 <jurov>	lol
Apr 28 18:43:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 3 @ 0.00111 = 0.0033 BTC [-]
Apr 28 18:43:52 <b0n1>	who of you is coming here? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1962101#msg1962101
Apr 28 18:45:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 18 @ 0.0011 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
Apr 28 18:45:22 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform that one ever worked in practice ?
Apr 28 18:45:45 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: the bulk of the U.S. economy?
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Apr 28 18:46:05 <mircea_popescu>	lol i am defeated
Apr 28 18:46:43 <mjr___>	hahaha
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Apr 28 18:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	"We had the study of the hotel room dedicated to our dealing desk, which included precision scales, and storage containers for all kinds of valuables. EUR 50 (and below) notes will be weighted as well as the gold and silver, 100-500 notes are counted."
Apr 28 18:48:32 <mircea_popescu>	lmao what the fucking hell
Apr 28 18:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	The trading desk with computers and monitors was in the main bedroom, which was in rontus' command. I don't remember if we traded any, though.
Apr 28 18:48:55 <jurov>	there are tupperware containers with cash mentioned earlier
Apr 28 18:48:58 <mircea_popescu>	x.x
Apr 28 18:49:10 <mircea_popescu>	ok, i have just the thing for thisd
Apr 28 18:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4701 BTC [+]
Apr 28 18:50:13 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/embed/UDUE6u7EZqE
Apr 28 18:50:14 <mircea_popescu>	this.
Apr 28 18:51:07 <ThickAsThieves>	ok i'm registered for real for real now, thank you jurov
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Apr 28 18:52:32 <kakobrekla>	i dont understand what are they singing
Apr 28 18:53:03 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 28 18:53:20 <jurov>	and i miss cash flying in air
Apr 28 18:53:43 <kakobrekla>	they gonna fuck that dude with a bannana?
Apr 28 18:54:16 <mircea_popescu>	you wish. perv.
Apr 28 18:54:27 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, he's an ex garbage entrepreneur
Apr 28 18:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	who sold his biz and wanted to start a stardom career.
Apr 28 18:54:45 <mircea_popescu>	that was pretty much his only vid.
Apr 28 18:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [-]
Apr 28 18:57:04 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: garbage entrepreneur? literally, like V. Putin?
Apr 28 18:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	literally as in he ran the city dump
Apr 28 18:58:31 <mircea_popescu>	in whatever small town
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Apr 28 19:00:56 <jurov>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8uRDLQNcI8 jeeeeeeeeeez go to 3:03
Apr 28 19:01:12 <jurov>	ganjix v2.0
Apr 28 19:02:26 <jurov>	can't believe aljazeera fell for his charms, too :DDD
Apr 28 19:04:45 <mjr___>	omg
Apr 28 19:04:54 <mjr___>	lol
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Apr 28 19:06:20 <mjr___>	ugh, how did amir taaki get back in the spotlight?
Apr 28 19:07:46 <kakobrekla>	how could one forget him?
Apr 28 19:07:49 <mjr___>	and their text at the bottom is pretty wrong
Apr 28 19:07:59 <mjr___>	the creators and users of bitcoin are always anonymous
Apr 28 19:08:10 <mjr___>	my name is Josh Rossi and I use bitcoins...pretty easy to disprove
Apr 28 19:09:02 <kakobrekla>	"techology like bitcoin is like hospitals"
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Apr 28 19:09:07 <kakobrekla>	i think that sums it up
Apr 28 19:09:11 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 28 19:09:29 <mjr___>	we have charts graphs
Apr 28 19:09:33 <mjr___>	LOLZ
Apr 28 19:09:36 <kakobrekla>	lol
Apr 28 19:09:41 <kakobrekla>	we also have skateboards
Apr 28 19:09:45 <mjr___>	hahaha
Apr 28 19:10:48 <mjr___>	i'm not sure if he understands
Apr 28 19:10:50 <kakobrekla>	lol they blacklisted him
Apr 28 19:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.4601 = 6.9015 BTC [-]
Apr 28 19:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4601 = 2.3005 BTC [-]
Apr 28 19:11:06 <kakobrekla>	"bank closed my accounts" ...
Apr 28 19:11:12 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 28 19:11:35 <kakobrekla>	good to say to attract new users
Apr 28 19:11:45 <mjr___>	i mean, the govt can tax bitcoin, bitcoin doesn't make tax impossible
Apr 28 19:12:10 <mjr___>	stateless; therefore cannot be taxed or frozen
Apr 28 19:12:23 <mjr___>	retarded...
Apr 28 19:12:26 <ThickAsThieves>	surprised they would take amir seriously, another embarassing bitcoin vid...
Apr 28 19:12:36 <asciilifeform>	mjr___: govt could proclaim a tax on taking a shit if it wanted to. collecting is another matter.
Apr 28 19:12:37 <kakobrekla>	omg
Apr 28 19:12:42 <kakobrekla>	this is getting worse and worse
Apr 28 19:12:49 <mjr___>	when everyone is sharing....
Apr 28 19:12:50 <kakobrekla>	srsly this and tux
Apr 28 19:12:54 <kakobrekla>	sell all your coins now!
Apr 28 19:13:14 *	kakobrekla places bid at 1.99$
Apr 28 19:13:36 <ThickAsThieves>	he has pimple juice on his hoodie
Apr 28 19:13:57 <ThickAsThieves>	pro
Apr 28 19:14:32 <kakobrekla>	fuck fuck
Apr 28 19:14:45 <mjr___>	did he just say let's bring money laundering to the common people
Apr 28 19:14:51 <mjr___>	wtf
Apr 28 19:15:03 <kakobrekla>	he is so fucked
Apr 28 19:15:43 <error4733>	what the name in english when you take acid and stay in your trip
Apr 28 19:15:51 <jurov>	will someone do a transcription? i don't understand him in person, not even on tube
Apr 28 19:16:27 <kakobrekla>	hopefuly its not available in html5 and mp will do it
Apr 28 19:18:17 <mjr___>	bitcoins website getting hacked LOL
Apr 28 19:18:26 <mjr___>	where is this website?
Apr 28 19:19:34 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 28 19:20:11 <mjr___>	if only there was a way to use escrow's with bitcoin LOL
Apr 28 19:20:26 <mjr___>	its like these people don't have computers or dont know how to use google
Apr 28 19:20:56 <mjr___>	when bitcoin was hacked on wednesday LOLZ
Apr 28 19:22:03 <mircea_popescu>	wtf is this
Apr 28 19:22:08 <mjr___>	OMG
Apr 28 19:22:11 <mircea_popescu>	is he 12 ?
Apr 28 19:22:12 <kakobrekla>	yes this is dog.
Apr 28 19:22:18 <mjr___>	its not a fucking utopian dream
Apr 28 19:22:18 <KRS-1>	"bitcoin" was hacked wednesday?
Apr 28 19:22:22 <mjr___>	its just a free market
Apr 28 19:24:08 <mjr___>	what about people who can't read source code
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Apr 28 19:26:50 <mjr___>	i have to say, for all its tons of misinformation, they actually seem like they want to understand
Apr 28 19:26:58 <mjr___>	just need a smarter person explaining it
Apr 28 19:27:03 <kakobrekla>	at least the hugo guy is making some sense
Apr 28 19:27:07 <asciilifeform>	mjr___: what about people who can't... read. evil discrimination11!1, etc
Apr 28 19:28:30 <mircea_popescu>	KRS-1 i will gladly hack bitcoin on wednesday for a hamburger today.
Apr 28 19:29:50 <KRS-1>	usually i charge a bj but a burger will do on a sunday
Apr 28 19:29:59 <KRS-1>	wtf is that thing on taaki's head
Apr 28 19:30:15 <kakobrekla>	he missed a spot shaving
Apr 28 19:30:25 <mircea_popescu>	such a chav,
Apr 28 19:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	aaanyway.
Apr 28 19:30:30 <KRS-1>	lol
Apr 28 19:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	@DRUDGE_REPORT 30m SHOCK POLL: Americans fear government more than terror.
Apr 28 19:31:07 <mircea_popescu>	what's so shocking about that.
Apr 28 19:31:11 <KRS-1>	oh wow that was a popeye reference..woa..long time
Apr 28 19:31:57 <KRS-1>	yeah, people here in the states are very reprehensive about our government. I heard that our Homeland Security department has been hording up ammunition..makes you wonder why them?
Apr 28 19:32:09 <mircea_popescu>	lol.
Apr 28 19:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	took you a minute.
Apr 28 19:32:33 <dub>	someone please shoot amir in th eface
Apr 28 19:32:34 <KRS-1>	How are things in Romania? I have been thinking of an exit strategy for years. Germany keeps coming to mind.
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Apr 28 19:32:39 <dub>	do it now
Apr 28 19:32:48 <dub>	I want him to die
Apr 28 19:33:07 <ThickAsThieves>	but gutterpunks are so charming
Apr 28 19:33:47 <ThickAsThieves>	i feel wrong judging him superficially, but it's not like his words helped
Apr 28 19:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	KRS-1 i'd say things are okay in romania.
Apr 28 19:34:07 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves don't worry, we've been judging him unsuperficially for years.
Apr 28 19:34:19 <mircea_popescu>	it's just that in some cases what's deep down is equal with what's skin deep
Apr 28 19:34:24 <mircea_popescu>	mostly because there's nothing there.
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Apr 28 19:36:04 <mircea_popescu>	(Pls somebody sell us more Goxmoney, we are out, we can pay intl wire in 2 days, spot-3%!!)
Apr 28 19:36:18 <KRS-1>	From what I understand gazpacho is more or less the national soup of Romania. Is this true?
Apr 28 19:36:20 <mircea_popescu>	wait, so the great supernode is out of cash burnrate of 200k a year for the next 8.5 hours ?
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Apr 28 19:36:26 <mircea_popescu>	KRS-1 perfectly untrue.
Apr 28 19:36:28 <kakobrekla>	:DD
Apr 28 19:36:51 <KRS-1>	Amazing the strange views we have of other countries.
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Apr 28 19:37:06 <mircea_popescu>	there's tripe soup, a chicken and homemade noodle-like thing soup and others that are popular.
Apr 28 19:37:43 <mircea_popescu>	gazpacho is spanish
Apr 28 19:37:56 <KRS-1>	oh thought that was russian
Apr 28 19:38:15 <mircea_popescu>	nope.
Apr 28 19:38:15 <KRS-1>	I just read the wiki on Romanian cuisine, I think the only thing I would like is the plum brandy.
Apr 28 19:38:25 <mircea_popescu>	haha. yeah, people liked it.
Apr 28 19:38:40 <KRS-1>	Eggplant is ok
Apr 28 19:38:41 <mircea_popescu>	trust me, you'll like anything.
Apr 28 19:40:02 <KRS-1>	Hmm..probably, it just sounds so different than whatever I've been used to eating. I have a pretty open mind approaching different cuisines. The only one I could never like is Indian food.
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Apr 28 19:40:53 <KRS-1>	I'd definately do well in Japan- I love sushi/sashimi, although they eat some pretty weird stuff over there. If I ever have to leave the U.S.A., Japan is on the radar for me also.
Apr 28 19:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4623 = 2.7738 BTC [+]
Apr 28 19:41:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4622 BTC [-]
Apr 28 19:41:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
Apr 28 19:41:12 <KRS-1>	Plus the young girls there have the Hello Kitty thing going on over there, so cute.
Apr 28 19:41:17 <mircea_popescu>	once you leave the us you suddenly discover what soert of shit you;'ve been eating
Apr 28 19:41:52 <KRS-1>	lol probably..as the years go on, I notice the food has gotten much worse.  Many consider us the "bread basket" of the world too..eh.
Apr 28 19:42:08 <KRS-1>	Our "fast food" is the worst.
Apr 28 19:42:39 <mircea_popescu>	yeah it's pretty bad.
Apr 28 19:42:46 <mircea_popescu>	and yeah i imagine it;'s getting worse.
Apr 28 19:43:14 <orkaa>	at least you have fastfood
Apr 28 19:43:20 <KRS-1>	From what I understand lately they inject beef with dyes to appear red, not only that our livestock is cloned and drugged with all kinds of chemicals..you can actually taste the difference between real meat.
Apr 28 19:43:26 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: eating shit is a strictly-voluntary business, even in the U.S. - at least, right now.
Apr 28 19:43:27 <KRS-1>	It doesnt even cook right.
Apr 28 19:43:29 <orkaa>	if i went out this moment, i would only have 2 options
Apr 28 19:43:32 <orkaa>	burek and kebab
Apr 28 19:43:37 <orkaa>	ok, and pizza slices
Apr 28 19:43:47 <KRS-1>	Where are you orkaa?
Apr 28 19:43:52 <KRS-1>	I could live on Pizza
Apr 28 19:43:53 <orkaa>	ljubljana, slovenia
Apr 28 19:43:54 <kakobrekla>	somalia
Apr 28 19:43:56 <mircea_popescu>	asciilifeform not if you've never been out and dunno what food is.
Apr 28 19:43:59 <kakobrekla>	meh
Apr 28 19:44:03 <KRS-1>	Slovenia is NOT Somalia
Apr 28 19:44:16 <dub>	nobody considers america the bread basket of the world
Apr 28 19:44:18 <KRS-1>	right?
Apr 28 19:44:26 <kakobrekla>	not sure
Apr 28 19:44:31 <KRS-1>	lol
Apr 28 19:45:02 <mircea_popescu>	somalia has better food, slovenia better looking women
Apr 28 19:45:09 <KRS-1>	sorry- you are right, "its been said" that America is the bread basket of N. America
Apr 28 19:45:12 <mircea_popescu>	this because starvation after the age of 12 or so is actually beneficial.
Apr 28 19:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46220001 = 0.9244 BTC [+]
Apr 28 19:46:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4599 BTC [-]
Apr 28 19:47:02 <KRS-1>	So, if I were to flee 1) Germany 2) Japan 3) Australia?  Any other suggestions or does this seem like a pretty decent list?
Apr 28 19:47:30 <kakobrekla>	1 2 and 3 are all bad
Apr 28 19:47:36 <KRS-1>	damn
Apr 28 19:47:43 <KRS-1>	my view of the world is fsked
Apr 28 19:47:45 <orkaa>	germany is ok if you pick berlin
Apr 28 19:47:47 <dub>	yes, terrible choices
Apr 28 19:47:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd like to visit switzerland
Apr 28 19:48:10 <KRS-1>	seriously..in terms of national security and prosperity?
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Apr 28 19:48:23 <asciilifeform>	KRS-1: it makes a difference exactly what you're running away from.
Apr 28 19:48:25 <dub>	australia is probably the best of that lot
Apr 28 19:48:34 <dub>	but populated entirely by criminals
Apr 28 19:48:36 <troc>	what would you be fleeing from ?  or do you mean emigrate ?
Apr 28 19:48:36 <orkaa>	dub, i'd rather pick germany
Apr 28 19:48:38 <mircea_popescu>	ya srlsy.
Apr 28 19:49:03 <mircea_popescu>	you must go to finland and stay in the supernode
Apr 28 19:49:20 <orkaa>	finland has no sun
Apr 28 19:49:37 <mircea_popescu>	it doesn't need it
Apr 28 19:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	it has a burn rate.
Apr 28 19:49:42 <KRS-1>	lately there is a growing fear that we're in serious debt to China and they are asking that civilians be disarmed. Our Homeland Security department is hording ammunition (Who in the hell are they going to use it against except us?).. Much doubt about our currency..security..
Apr 28 19:49:53 <dub>	germany has germans which are only tolerable in small doses
Apr 28 19:49:57 <KRS-1>	I think we've become the fat pig that can't even breathe under our own weight.
Apr 28 19:50:02 <mircea_popescu>	KRS-1 just go travelling about the world, see where you like it.
Apr 28 19:50:05 <dub>	japan is just completely fucked
Apr 28 19:50:23 <mircea_popescu>	dub the problem is the germanettes. more like manatees
Apr 28 19:50:24 <KRS-1>	mp: Thats good advice..hmm.
Apr 28 19:50:30 <mjr___>	http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2013/04/20134572639241668.html
Apr 28 19:50:45 <mjr___>	http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2013/04/20134572639241668.html#comment-878882931
Apr 28 19:50:55 <mjr___>	there is my comment
Apr 28 19:51:32 <mjr___>	why are people so retarded?
Apr 28 19:51:53 <mjr___>	Australia looks like a great place to live nowadays
Apr 28 19:52:05 <mjr___>	saw the best comparison of their gun control vs ours
Apr 28 19:52:27 <mjr___>	people have to be willfully ignorant to not see that you CAN make people safer
Apr 28 19:52:58 <KRS-1>	mjr: thats what i understand
Apr 28 19:53:06 <KRS-1>	I dont want to give up my firearms though
Apr 28 19:53:10 <KRS-1>	I have some nice weapons.
Apr 28 19:53:20 <KRS-1>	My fav is the Ruger SP-101 .357 Magnum
Apr 28 19:53:25 <kakobrekla>	i thought all you need to do is ban violent games
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Apr 28 19:54:23 <asciilifeform>	I never understood why people brag about their boomsticks on the Net. Why would you want to shout for a priority seat in the gasenwagen?
Apr 28 19:54:35 <dub>	A really excellent discussion of bitcoin. Amir is an articulate, passionate advocate...
Apr 28 19:54:42 <dub>	what the everloving fuck
Apr 28 19:54:43 <mjr___>	LOL
Apr 28 19:54:53 <dub>	comment below yours
Apr 28 19:54:57 <mjr___>	i know i saw it
Apr 28 19:55:01 <mjr___>	hilarious
Apr 28 19:55:15 <mjr___>	how did that woman know amir's name? he's anonymous obvs
Apr 28 19:55:36 <mircea_popescu>	ajhahaha
Apr 28 19:55:40 <mircea_popescu>	ok, best line of the day.
Apr 28 19:55:44 <mjr___>	YAY
Apr 28 19:56:00 <mjr___>	srsly, retards
Apr 28 19:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	"how did that woman know amir's name? he's anonymous obviously!"
Apr 28 19:56:45 <mircea_popescu>	bweahaha
Apr 28 19:57:05 <mjr___>	how could they write that? did no one say, "wait, i know his name!"
Apr 28 19:57:10 <mircea_popescu>	meanwhile in other-retard-venue (ie http://www.cnbc.com/id/100675118 )
Apr 28 19:57:16 <mircea_popescu>	"Bitcoin likely has a long way to go before regulators step in and start controlling the market, and once it does get there it may not be for the right reasons. "
Apr 28 19:57:31 <mircea_popescu>	right. because it's clear and established that anyone gives a shit about "Regulators"
Apr 28 19:57:38 <mircea_popescu>	and they speak english rathert tyhan chinese
Apr 28 19:57:40 <mircea_popescu>	and so forth.
Apr 28 19:58:18 <mjr___>	lolz
Apr 28 19:58:35 <mjr___>	i'm glad that their stupidity has crystalized my new heuristic
Apr 28 19:59:01 <mjr___>	whatever you are about to say, replace "bitcoin" with "dollar", do you sound retarded? If yes, don't say what you were about to say
Apr 28 19:59:30 <mjr___>	where is the website for the US Dollar?
Apr 28 19:59:36 <mjr___>	has the dollar been hacked?
Apr 28 19:59:44 <mjr___>	people use dollars for illegal transactions
Apr 28 20:00:12 <mircea_popescu>	yes. once done with that, replace bitcoin with math
Apr 28 20:00:20 <mjr___>	also good
Apr 28 20:00:21 <mircea_popescu>	then, "naked teenager chicks"
Apr 28 20:00:26 <mircea_popescu>	then, dodd frank
Apr 28 20:00:33 <mircea_popescu>	if it passes all these tests you may say it.
Apr 28 20:00:37 <mjr___>	hahaha
Apr 28 20:00:45 <mjr___>	that may be too advanced for them
Apr 28 20:01:04 <mircea_popescu>	has dodd frank hacked the math yet ?
Apr 28 20:03:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.275 BTC [-]
Apr 28 20:03:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4745 @ 0.00071432 = 3.3894 BTC [+]
Apr 28 20:03:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 905 @ 0.00071588 = 0.6479 BTC [+]
Apr 28 20:03:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.27 = 21.59 BTC [-]
Apr 28 20:04:44 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you should invest in YCombinator
Apr 28 20:04:48 <thestringpuller>	give Paul Graham some mo ney
Apr 28 20:07:15 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu mircea_popescu mircea_popescu
Apr 28 20:07:41 <thestringpuller>	dub dub dub wub wub wub
Apr 28 20:07:46 <thestringpuller>	wub wub wub wub dub dub dub
Apr 28 20:07:57 <thestringpuller>	dub step
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Apr 28 20:15:38 <KRS-1>	mp: wait what
Apr 28 20:15:47 <KRS-1>	naked teenager chicks..
Apr 28 20:16:04 <KRS-1>	you have that in Romania no
Apr 28 20:16:52 <KRS-1>	do you like skrillex? my fav song is voltage
Apr 28 20:18:01 <truff1es>	i cant find the soundtrack of this series
Apr 28 20:18:29 <mjr___>	i heard some skrillex at "heaven" in romania :)
Apr 28 20:19:17 <truff1es>	its like they dont want to make money off the soundtrack  :(
Apr 28 20:20:13 <kakobrekla>	if heaven has asses like dat, imma go baptize myself rite nao
Apr 28 20:21:21 <dub>	thestringpuller: wtf
Apr 28 20:21:45 <dub>	that is the second time in 48 hours I've been highlighted with almost the same string
Apr 28 20:22:00 <thestringpuller>	dub wub dub wub dub wub dub
Apr 28 20:22:09 <thestringpuller>	you need a business partner with the handle wub
Apr 28 20:22:17 <thestringpuller>	FOR MY AMUSEMENT!
Apr 28 20:22:32 <dub>	has dubstep just landed in murica or something?
Apr 28 20:22:41 <kakobrekla>	take a chill pill thestringpuller
Apr 28 20:22:44 <thestringpuller>	it's what all the cool kids listen to
Apr 28 20:22:49 <thestringpuller>	I like to make fun of it
Apr 28 20:22:49 <truff1es>	dub step sure takes an appreciation
Apr 28 20:22:51 <dub>	the rest of the world has already relegated it to the tradpit
Apr 28 20:22:55 <dub>	tardpit
Apr 28 20:23:15 <dub>	its normal for the cool kids in murica to lag behind by a few years
Apr 28 20:23:19 <mircea_popescu>	whats skrillex ?
Apr 28 20:23:36 <kakobrekla>	dunno, some song or artist id guess
Apr 28 20:23:41 <dub>	skrillex is approx the worst music producer of all time
Apr 28 20:23:50 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Apr 28 20:24:01 <truff1es>	haters gonna hate
Apr 28 20:25:24 <KRS-1>	skrillex is like the godfather of dubstep although some would dispute that
Apr 28 20:25:32 <dub>	he is nothing like that
Apr 28 20:25:47 <KRS-1>	no?
Apr 28 20:25:52 <dub>	no
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Apr 28 20:26:00 <mircea_popescu>	dub knows his step
Apr 28 20:26:01 <KRS-1>	this is my fav song by skrillex- the video is kind of moving too:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbsus0o0Muk
Apr 28 20:26:12 <truff1es>	 SKRILLEX - Scary Monsters And Nice Sprites in enjoy that one
Apr 28 20:26:39 <KRS-1>	dub: what would you say skrillex is to dubstep then?
Apr 28 20:26:47 <mjr___>	lol, skrillex is in no way whatsoever the godfather of dubstep
Apr 28 20:26:59 <mjr___>	'he is an artist producing dubstep music
Apr 28 20:27:16 <dub>	skrillex scooped up the turd that the godfathers of dubstep left behind when they woke up from teh ketamine hole they had been in when they came up with it
Apr 28 20:27:17 <mjr___>	you could also say, one of the most popular current dubstep artists
Apr 28 20:27:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00071 = 0.6745 BTC [-]
Apr 28 20:27:23 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11106 @ 0.00070673 = 7.8489 BTC [-]
Apr 28 20:27:25 <KRS-1>	my bad then..thanks for letting me know. I'll have to read up a bit
Apr 28 20:27:46 <KRS-1>	at any rate he produces some badass music
Apr 28 20:27:54 <dub>	s/ass//
Apr 28 20:27:58 <mjr___>	ugh, the #bitcoin-nyc channel is already created
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Apr 28 20:28:06 <KRS-1>	mjr: most popular thats probably what I should have said
Apr 28 20:28:07 <mjr___>	the fact that no one is in it, sucks
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Apr 28 20:28:26 <mjr___>	i would like to use that chan, but i want to moderate...
Apr 28 20:28:28 <mircea_popescu>	mjr___ nyc is kind of marginal i guess :D
Apr 28 20:28:44 <mjr___>	#bitcoin-timisoara ?
Apr 28 20:28:57 <mircea_popescu>	you can prolly moderate that
Apr 28 20:29:00 <dub>	KRS-1: like most music fads its popularity is a wedge
Apr 28 20:29:15 <orkaa>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6WJYe6n-l8
Apr 28 20:29:17 <mjr___>	i was going to use it for listing trades at the open air exchange
Apr 28 20:29:19 <orkaa>	this is one of the old tunes
Apr 28 20:29:40 <mjr___>	also thinking about maybe a twitter feed
Apr 28 20:29:57 <kakobrekla>	what open air exchage
Apr 28 20:30:06 <KRS-1>	Skrillex- Bangarang and Kyoto are imo the other best songs he did
Apr 28 20:30:28 <mjr___>	i plan on going to union square park
Apr 28 20:30:29 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla he wants to trade gypsies for moonshine
Apr 28 20:30:40 <mjr___>	and market making
Apr 28 20:30:40 <truff1es>	<KRS-1> voltage pretty cool too, nostalgia..
Apr 28 20:30:47 <KRS-1>	dub: yes and I'm thankful for the addition to our modern music..some of it is pretty good actually.
Apr 28 20:31:00 <dub>	how can you call somethign that is two weeks old nostalgic
Apr 28 20:31:06 <mjr___>	i figure, if everyone knows that between 4pm and 6pm monday through friday, you can buy or sell bitcoins at one location
Apr 28 20:31:18 <KRS-1>	dub: it might be two weeks old to you =)    its been around
Apr 28 20:31:20 <mjr___>	it will bring liquidity to the market
Apr 28 20:31:23 <mjr___>	what do you guys think?
Apr 28 20:31:24 <KRS-1>	that fat dude in the bangarang video is a trip
Apr 28 20:31:43 <KRS-1>	mjr: not a bad idea at all
Apr 28 20:31:50 <KRS-1>	U might be onto something
Apr 28 20:31:55 <kakobrekla>	mjr___ local bitcoins?
Apr 28 20:31:59 <mjr___>	i will set the spread
Apr 28 20:32:02 <kakobrekla>	dot com
Apr 28 20:32:02 <mjr___>	localbitcoins is nice
Apr 28 20:32:04 <mjr___>	i used it
Apr 28 20:32:14 <mjr___>	but the problem is that you have to coordinate times
Apr 28 20:32:17 <mjr___>	and locations
Apr 28 20:32:20 <mjr___>	which can be a pain
Apr 28 20:32:35 <mjr___>	i have a few other people who want to hang out in the park and trade and set markets
Apr 28 20:32:37 <dub>	dubstep is the retarded cousin of dnb
Apr 28 20:32:54 <mjr___>	it sounds like someone is torturing computers...and i like it
Apr 28 20:33:11 <mjr___>	mircea_popescu: what do you think of this idea?
Apr 28 20:33:29 <dub>	it was concieved purely to make terrible dj's look better and so fat people won't look as out of place ont he dancefloow
Apr 28 20:33:32 <truff1es>	<dub> how can you call somethign that is two weeks old nostalgic >>> the feeling you get when you hear a really cool song
Apr 28 20:33:35 <mircea_popescu>	i think it sound s a lot like how gay subculture got started :D
Apr 28 20:33:55 <mjr___>	well...that seems to have taken off pretty well, not a bad model
Apr 28 20:34:07 <mjr___>	bitcoin eye for the straight guy
Apr 28 20:34:14 <mjr___>	i can live with that
Apr 28 20:34:15 <mircea_popescu>	anyway. grand central station.
Apr 28 20:34:28 <kakobrekla>	watch out that you dont get robbed
Apr 28 20:34:30 <mjr___>	you think grand central is better?
Apr 28 20:34:36 <mjr___>	yes, that is why i would be in the park
Apr 28 20:34:40 <mjr___>	police officers
Apr 28 20:34:55 <mjr___>	probably a webcam of union square park
Apr 28 20:35:09 <mircea_popescu>	i just thought it's much quicker.
Apr 28 20:35:14 <mjr___>	its my favorite area of NYC, and my office is a block away
Apr 28 20:35:34 <mjr___>	not to mention the weather is going to be great
Apr 28 20:35:42 <mjr___>	i figure i can make a decent amount of cash just market making
Apr 28 20:35:50 <mjr___>	and by cash i mean bitcoins
Apr 28 20:35:52 <orkaa>	parks are great for buying drugs so bitcoin should work too.. :)
Apr 28 20:36:06 <mircea_popescu>	can't hurt.
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Apr 28 20:36:07 <mjr___>	union square can be tough for buying drugs
Apr 28 20:36:33 <mjr___>	in fact, most people just call their dealers...hard to find a vendor with a location LOL
Apr 28 20:37:01 <mjr___>	i was brokering a $20,000 bitcoin buy today
Apr 28 20:37:11 <mjr___>	hard to get coins quick
Apr 28 20:37:29 <kakobrekla>	where did you buy
Apr 28 20:37:32 <mjr___>	some guy is buying 10,000 chips from avalon
Apr 28 20:37:43 <mjr___>	and needs like 150 btc for his portion
Apr 28 20:37:46 <mjr___>	locally
Apr 28 20:37:49 <mjr___>	i didn't buy
Apr 28 20:37:51 <mjr___>	i just brokered
Apr 28 20:38:02 <mjr___>	deal isn't done yet
Apr 28 20:38:08 <mjr___>	but he paid like 148 per
Apr 28 20:38:11 <mjr___>	or around there
Apr 28 20:38:18 <mjr___>	think he needs another 50 coins tomorrow
Apr 28 20:38:38 <mjr___>	so, and this is pretty hilarious, i'm gonna sell yifu's coins to him, so he can pay yifu
Apr 28 20:39:18 <mjr___>	finally starting to get a good bitcoin sub-culture in nyc
Apr 28 20:39:25 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 120
Apr 28 20:39:27 <gribble>	There are currently 28719.462 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 3571691.25347 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
Apr 28 20:39:37 <mjr___>	there are like almost 100 people in the facebook group bitcoinnyc
Apr 28 20:39:42 <mjr___>	and i hung out at EVR last night
Apr 28 20:39:56 <kakobrekla>	nice mjr___, must be all cognac and cigars over there
Apr 28 20:39:56 <mjr___>	charlie shrem's spot where they accept bitcoins
Apr 28 20:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.4649 = 7.9033 BTC [+]
Apr 28 20:40:16 <mjr___>	lol, just jameson for me
Apr 28 20:40:20 <mjr___>	and cigarettes lol
Apr 28 20:40:28 <tiberiusiv>	well you are poor
Apr 28 20:40:33 <mjr___>	i'm more of a jameson and cigarettes guy than a cognac and cigars guy
Apr 28 20:40:33 <tiberiusiv>	surprised you were even allowed in
Apr 28 20:40:40 <Diablo-D3>	[08:37:32] <mjr___> some guy is buying 10,000 chips from avalon
Apr 28 20:40:41 <dub>	nothign wrong with jameson
Apr 28 20:40:45 <Diablo-D3>	thats HOW many ghash?
Apr 28 20:40:45 <dub>	for cooking etc
Apr 28 20:40:55 <mjr___>	hmmm
Apr 28 20:41:02 <mjr___>	think its 282 mh per chip
Apr 28 20:41:08 <mjr___>	10,000 is the minimum to buy
Apr 28 20:41:23 <mjr___>	and i think they've sold quite a few batches
Apr 28 20:41:31 <mjr___>	diff futures?
Apr 28 20:41:32 <dub>	seems like it
Apr 28 20:41:39 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 10000 * 282 / 1000 / 1000
Apr 28 20:41:40 <gribble>	2.82
Apr 28 20:41:44 <Diablo-D3>	2.82 TH? lawls.
Apr 28 20:41:49 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 28 20:41:56 <mjr___>	that is quite a bit
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Apr 28 20:42:08 <mjr___>	how long to generate 780 btc with 2 terrahashes
Apr 28 20:42:21 <dub>	;;genrate 2000000
Apr 28 20:42:22 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 2000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 112.077095651 BTC per day and 4.66987898546 BTC per hour.
Apr 28 20:42:23 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 2820000
Apr 28 20:42:23 <gribble>	2820000
Apr 28 20:42:26 <Diablo-D3>	er
Apr 28 20:42:29 <Diablo-D3>	;;genrate 282000
Apr 28 20:42:31 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 282000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 15.8028704868 BTC per day and 0.65845293695 BTC per hour.
Apr 28 20:42:31 <Diablo-D3>	;;genrate 2820000
Apr 28 20:42:32 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 2820000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 158.028704868 BTC per day and 6.5845293695 BTC per hour.
Apr 28 20:42:45 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 780 / 158
Apr 28 20:42:46 <gribble>	4.93670886076
Apr 28 20:42:48 <Diablo-D3>	4.9 days
Apr 28 20:42:55 <Diablo-D3>	though remember, those chips are only half the cost
Apr 28 20:42:59 <mjr___>	of course
Apr 28 20:43:11 <Diablo-D3>	still have to fab the boards and mount components
Apr 28 20:43:14 <Diablo-D3>	also
Apr 28 20:43:22 <kakobrekla>	the biggest cost is time
Apr 28 20:43:22 <mjr___>	yep, he has electrical engineers etc
Apr 28 20:43:24 <Diablo-D3>	it was what 800 watts for 68gh?
Apr 28 20:43:42 <mjr___>	yep
Apr 28 20:43:52 <mjr___>	i'm not even sure what his end goal is
Apr 28 20:43:56 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 2820 / 68 * 800
Apr 28 20:43:57 <gribble>	33176.4705882
Apr 28 20:43:59 <mjr___>	sell mining rigs? mine all himself?
Apr 28 20:44:03 <Diablo-D3>	33kw
Apr 28 20:44:20 <truff1es>	 <KRS-1> Skrillex- Bangarang and Kyoto are imo the other best songs >>> really enjoyed these *dances*
Apr 28 20:44:21 <kakobrekla>	mjr___ simple, mine while diff low and sell the hardware then
Apr 28 20:44:50 <KRS-1>	lol I'm more of a domestic beer, maybe southern comfort and cigarettes kind of guy..the country boy in me
Apr 28 20:44:56 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: heh, Im even questioning my purchase of these asicminer blades
Apr 28 20:44:59 <Diablo-D3>	I may pull out of the bidding
Apr 28 20:45:18 <kakobrekla>	then what, dmc 6.0?
Apr 28 20:45:24 <Diablo-D3>	hurr
Apr 28 20:45:30 <Diablo-D3>	Im buying these for my private ownership
Apr 28 20:45:40 <kakobrekla>	a ok
Apr 28 20:45:58 <Diablo-D3>	I currently still have an active bid for 8 of them at 32 BTC each
Apr 28 20:46:43 <kakobrekla>	oh since when do you have that kind of money :)
Apr 28 20:47:01 <KRS-1>	truff1es: glad you like..thats what I like most about IRC, getting turned onto something that I would not have otherwise come across.
Apr 28 20:47:08 <Diablo-D3>	I sold 371 of my asicminer shares
Apr 28 20:47:20 <mjr___>	is there news on the asicminer front?
Apr 28 20:47:29 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 explain to me your reasoning there.
Apr 28 20:47:41 <mircea_popescu>	they will make maybe half a btc a day, if diff stays put
Apr 28 20:47:49 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: out of 1371.
Apr 28 20:48:01 <mircea_popescu>	no, blades at 32
Apr 28 20:48:10 <Diablo-D3>	oh
Apr 28 20:48:14 <Diablo-D3>	;;genrate 10000
Apr 28 20:48:16 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
Apr 28 20:48:24 <Diablo-D3>	;;calc 32 / 0.56
Apr 28 20:48:25 <gribble>	57.1428571429
Apr 28 20:48:32 <Diablo-D3>	two months IF diff stays put
Apr 28 20:48:42 <Diablo-D3>	however that translates closer to a year since BFL apparently _is_ shipping
Apr 28 20:48:47 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 28 20:48:52 <mircea_popescu>	so what sense does that make.
Apr 28 20:48:58 <Diablo-D3>	its closer to a year.
Apr 28 20:49:22 <truff1es>	KRS-1 do you like Blue Foundation - Eyes On Fire?`
Apr 28 20:49:29 <Diablo-D3>	thats what the difficulty projections are saying
Apr 28 20:49:32 <mircea_popescu>	and you won.t even get .5, seeing how next diff is +12%
Apr 28 20:49:39 <thestringpuller>	;;bc,stats
Apr 28 20:49:42 <mircea_popescu>	in like 50 blocks or w/e
Apr 28 20:49:46 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233657 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 198 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10010787.9429 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.54956
Apr 28 20:49:51 <thestringpuller>	HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Apr 28 20:49:58 <mircea_popescu>	whoa the 10mn is crossed!
Apr 28 20:49:58 <kakobrekla>	ha
Apr 28 20:50:01 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: Im not sure if I want to sit on that hardware for an entire year
Apr 28 20:50:03 <kakobrekla>	hehe
Apr 28 20:50:04 <thestringpuller>	Dude june futures would have made a killing back in March
Apr 28 20:50:05 <thestringpuller>	FUCK
Apr 28 20:50:08 <mircea_popescu>	iiincredible
Apr 28 20:50:26 <dub>	;;nethash
Apr 28 20:50:27 <gribble>	74111.2050128
Apr 28 20:50:30 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I'd be better off waiting for a 28nm product.
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Apr 28 20:50:40 <mircea_popescu>	i guess so.
Apr 28 20:50:52 <KRS-1>	ah closer tolerances is higher heat
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Apr 28 20:51:06 <KRS-1>	anyone know if the 51% attack on litecoin is for real or not
Apr 28 20:51:20 <mjr___>	Butterfly lab for now have the most complete package when talking about power and power consumption <-----LOL
Apr 28 20:51:24 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: who cares, its litecoin
Apr 28 20:51:27 <ThickAsThieves>	only the attckers would know
Apr 28 20:52:00 <KRS-1>	true..but i'm interested, I dont care if its bitcoin, buttcoin, or fuckcoin, if it makes me a buck I'd like to try it.
Apr 28 20:52:08 <KRS-1>	heh
Apr 28 20:52:27 <kakobrekla>	wait the point of this is to make a buck?
Apr 28 20:52:30 <kakobrekla>	:\
Apr 28 20:52:38 <tiberiusiv>	for the losers yes
Apr 28 20:53:09 <mjr___>	Diablo-D3: i hope to see a 28nm process chip soon
Apr 28 20:53:23 <KRS-1>	we all have our own interests, whatever turns our crank, namean? I don't think it necessarily makes you a loser if you are not part of the elite or mainstream.
Apr 28 20:54:00 <mjr___>	that is correct however, as of right now, i don't think BFL consumes any power!
Apr 28 20:54:06 <mjr___>	super efficient
Apr 28 20:54:43 <kakobrekla>	but i thought bitcoin is like hospital
Apr 28 20:54:50 <kakobrekla>	dunno
Apr 28 20:56:25 <mjr___>	hahaha
Apr 28 20:57:32 <mjr___>	srsly though, if any of these reporters were doing a research project for a freshman high school class, they would fail
Apr 28 20:57:48 <mjr___>	they can't take the time to plagiarize?
Apr 28 20:58:10 <Diablo-D3>	mjr___: 28/32 might be coming sometime next year.
Apr 28 20:58:57 <KRS-1>	thats sick..never thought i'd see that day
Apr 28 20:59:45 <KRS-1>	they say we'd eventually come down to tolerances close to the size of atoms, although not smaller than an electron, we might have to move to photons or something, although i think photons are bigger than electrons
Apr 28 21:00:05 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: you're conceptualizing it wrong
Apr 28 21:00:12 <KRS-1>	:/
Apr 28 21:00:16 <Diablo-D3>	carbon nanotubes can get us below 5nm
Apr 28 21:02:05 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: btw no
Apr 28 21:02:12 <Diablo-D3>	photons may not have any physical size at all
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Apr 28 21:02:28 <KRS-1>	but they have mass no?
Apr 28 21:02:39 <KRS-1>	only very slight
Apr 28 21:02:56 <KRS-1>	do you think the future of computing is light
Apr 28 21:03:05 <KRS-1>	im not so sure rly
Apr 28 21:03:10 <Diablo-D3>	intel is already experimenting with in chip light pipes
Apr 28 21:03:20 <Diablo-D3>	and no, photons have no mass
Apr 28 21:03:40 <KRS-1>	if so we can exploit some advantages of using quantum mechanics
Apr 28 21:03:45 <Diablo-D3>	although you'd have to figure out how to measure the rest mass of a photon
Apr 28 21:03:57 <KRS-1>	thats what i was thinking
Apr 28 21:04:19 <KRS-1>	some very exciting things are happening with light and quantum mechanics
Apr 28 21:04:29 <KRS-1>	i was blown away when i learned about entanglement
Apr 28 21:04:34 <Diablo-D3>	anyhow, the size of an electron is about 3 fermi
Apr 28 21:05:08 <KRS-1>	entanglement showed us that the primary rules of physics are secondary to entanglements..distance and time don't matter
Apr 28 21:05:41 <tiberiusiv>	why the fuck arent people in here outraged at mirceas second massive monthly loss
Apr 28 21:05:58 <Diablo-D3>	photons are around half a fermi
Apr 28 21:06:08 <Diablo-D3>	also Im lagging badly, wow
Apr 28 21:06:10 <mircea_popescu>	photons havce no rest mass
Apr 28 21:06:15 <mircea_popescu>	they have energy-mass if threy move
Apr 28 21:06:19 <KRS-1>	ah there we go...so photons do have a size but no mass- that makes much more sense.
Apr 28 21:06:24 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: traditionally this is considered true
Apr 28 21:06:26 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, they probably don't have a size in the classical sense
Apr 28 21:06:37 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: it has not been experimentally been proven
Apr 28 21:06:40 <Diablo-D3>	but its most likely true
Apr 28 21:06:43 <KRS-1>	they're maybe "in between" mass and energy then..since mass IS energy and vice versa
Apr 28 21:06:43 <mircea_popescu>	right.
Apr 28 21:06:45 <Diablo-D3>	otherwise physics would get very weird
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Apr 28 21:07:04 <KRS-1>	physics does get very weird in the quantums.
Apr 28 21:07:15 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: well, it has no mass because it moves at the speed of light </high school physics knowledge rape>
Apr 28 21:07:25 <KRS-1>	right
Apr 28 21:07:49 <Diablo-D3>	it DOES however have a limit of how close you can get to it
Apr 28 21:07:58 <KRS-1>	anyway the future of computing must involve these principles at some point unless we will enter dark ages..no significant discoveries..that would be sad.
Apr 28 21:08:10 <KRS-1>	that is where i think we will be going when moores law doesnt apply anymore.
Apr 28 21:08:13 <truff1es>	back to this subject again,quantum computing is far off in the future dont worry
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Apr 28 21:08:24 <mjr___>	not quantum in this convo
Apr 28 21:08:27 <thestringpuller>	no quantum computing exists!
Apr 28 21:08:30 <thestringpuller>	it's secret
Apr 28 21:08:32 <thestringpuller>	super secret
Apr 28 21:08:34 <KRS-1>	they're using quantum computing for encryption atm
Apr 28 21:08:38 <thestringpuller>	BUT I'VE SEEN'T IT
Apr 28 21:08:42 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: since quantum space is quantized, we know what the grid size for photons are
Apr 28 21:08:44 <mjr___>	and yes quantum computing does exist right now... they've gotten 7 qubits
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Apr 28 21:08:56 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: its about half a fermi
Apr 28 21:09:11 <KRS-1>	diablo: amazing..you my friend are very well informed.
Apr 28 21:09:12 <mjr___>	they were talking about smaller and smaller processes for chips
Apr 28 21:09:23 <mjr___>	but still traditional chips
Apr 28 21:09:29 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: now the thing is, its not the size of the particle but the size of the pipe
Apr 28 21:09:38 <KRS-1>	lol thats what SHE said
Apr 28 21:09:45 <truff1es>	haha
Apr 28 21:09:45 <KRS-1>	but yea..thats the hard part.
Apr 28 21:09:49 <Diablo-D3>	we're reaching the limits of ultraviolet lithography techniques
Apr 28 21:09:52 <KRS-1>	and managing the heat
Apr 28 21:10:04 <mjr___>	that is the hardest thing about bitcoin mining
Apr 28 21:10:04 <KRS-1>	which is the printing board for cpu's right?
Apr 28 21:10:06 <truff1es>	size hard heating
Apr 28 21:10:09 <truff1es>	what is this
Apr 28 21:10:25 <mjr___>	is that the entire chip is being used, and most chips rely on the fact that some parts can cool while others are hot
Apr 28 21:10:26 <KRS-1>	they must be massive on the actual design boards
Apr 28 21:10:30 <KRS-1>	before being shrunk
Apr 28 21:10:51 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: its not really a board, its a very thin wafer
Apr 28 21:12:04 <KRS-1>	thats where the chip design is actually carved out? I thought it was on these big chalk board looking things that are shrunk to the wafers before the lithography
Apr 28 21:12:11 <KRS-1>	anyway i'll read up on it- thanks!
Apr 28 21:12:13 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: with current lithography techniques, chemical polishing, and the other processes used to make these chips
Apr 28 21:12:22 <Diablo-D3>	you can get down to 14nm
Apr 28 21:12:29 <KRS-1>	oof ..wow.
Apr 28 21:12:29 <Diablo-D3>	below that, quantum tunneling becomes an issue
Apr 28 21:12:48 <KRS-1>	thats where the electrons dont know which path to take or whatnot
Apr 28 21:12:59 <KRS-1>	or actually split
Apr 28 21:13:03 <Diablo-D3>	well, its where they can jump right through material
Apr 28 21:13:09 <KRS-1>	amazing
Apr 28 21:13:26 <taub>	http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/bitcoin-dealers-grappling-with-big-banks-and-murky-financial-rules-1.1257645?utm_source=feedly
Apr 28 21:13:31 <Diablo-D3>	electrons in normal chips could jump 15nm
Apr 28 21:13:51 <KRS-1>	not sure if the future is indeed bright or if we will eventually lead to a dark age where there is minimal discovery..that kind of bothers me, because we're only improving but not changing
Apr 28 21:13:54 <Diablo-D3>	so if you're designing these you end up with much larger gaps between the features
Apr 28 21:14:10 <Diablo-D3>	btw, I mean 15nm in silicon.
Apr 28 21:14:14 <Diablo-D3>	just to make that clear.
Apr 28 21:14:23 <KRS-1>	right
Apr 28 21:14:31 <KRS-1>	perhaps a new novel material
Apr 28 21:14:38 <KRS-1>	probably carbon
Apr 28 21:14:44 <Diablo-D3>	well
Apr 28 21:14:57 <Diablo-D3>	also, intel is finishing construction on their 14nm facility in arizona
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Apr 28 21:15:07 <Diablo-D3>	infact, it might already be done
Apr 28 21:15:21 <Diablo-D3>	they'll be shipping 14nm products mid 2014 from what I understand
Apr 28 21:15:25 <KRS-1>	who is right behind them or are they head and shoulders above the competition?
Apr 28 21:15:35 <mjr___>	lol
Apr 28 21:15:37 <mjr___>	nobody
Apr 28 21:15:39 <mjr___>	amd?
Apr 28 21:15:42 <KRS-1>	no not amd lol
Apr 28 21:15:44 <Diablo-D3>	nobody
Apr 28 21:15:47 <Diablo-D3>	and AMD doesnt fab chips
Apr 28 21:15:48 <KRS-1>	craziness
Apr 28 21:15:54 <Diablo-D3>	they split their fab division off as GloFo
Apr 28 21:15:56 <mjr___>	amd does design though don't they?
Apr 28 21:15:57 <KRS-1>	yea i heard that, but they once did i believe
Apr 28 21:16:10 <Diablo-D3>	mjr___: yes, but they stick with proven technologies
Apr 28 21:16:15 <mjr___>	yes
Apr 28 21:16:19 <Diablo-D3>	which is why they're at 32nm now
Apr 28 21:16:35 <mjr___>	diablo why does nvidia suck at mining?
Apr 28 21:16:56 <Diablo-D3>	they refuse to optimize for integer performance
Apr 28 21:17:16 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: now, samsung, hynix, and toshiba fab chips too
Apr 28 21:17:30 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: they're already working on 14nm processes
Apr 28 21:17:56 <joecool>	Diablo-D3: quantum tunnelling will be more of an issue at the 10nm process level
Apr 28 21:18:13 <Diablo-D3>	joecool: I said 14nm is as small as we get because of it
Apr 28 21:18:47 <truff1es>	<taub> http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/bitcoin-dealers-grappling-with-big-banks-and-murky-financial-rules-1.1257645?utm_source=feedly >>> sounds like will soon be like a bitcoin24 problem
Apr 28 21:19:08 <Diablo-D3>	joecool: it becomes impossible to design chips at 10nm
Apr 28 21:20:05 <Diablo-D3>	using existing HSQ and MSQ polymer dielectrics on silicon.
Apr 28 21:20:17 <mjr___>	Diablo-D3: do you think you could implement the sha-256 algo in a way that would be efficient for nvidia?
Apr 28 21:20:32 <Diablo-D3>	mjr___: no. and my kernel already implements it as efficient as possible.
Apr 28 21:20:57 <Diablo-D3>	mjr___: radeons execute integer add, xor, and rot in a single cycle
Apr 28 21:21:04 <KRS-1>	I dont know much about hynix and toshiba but I bet samsung is doing cool stuff. Hehe thinking back, I was a very big fan of Motorola.
Apr 28 21:21:05 <Diablo-D3>	nvidia does not do ANY of those in a single cycle
Apr 28 21:21:12 <joecool>	Diablo-D3: actually intel claimed they might skip 10nm and go to 8nm
Apr 28 21:21:12 <mjr___>	nice
Apr 28 21:21:13 <Diablo-D3>	and rotate is more expensive than add and xor on nvidia
Apr 28 21:21:25 <mjr___>	i see
Apr 28 21:21:27 <Diablo-D3>	joecool: 8nm is the half node size for 10 iirc, so its the same shit anyhow
Apr 28 21:21:56 <mjr___>	Diablo-D3: i think eventually we will need to use a larger bus, serial is a bottleneck
Apr 28 21:22:42 <mjr___>	you take 256 clock cycles just to get the hash in over a serial bus
Apr 28 21:23:08 <mjr___>	and with pipelining, the best you can hope for is one double hash per clock cycle
Apr 28 21:23:08 <thestringpuller>	WHY AREn'T YOU PEOPLE WATCHING GAME OF THRONES?
Apr 28 21:23:09 <Diablo-D3>	thats not an issue I have to care about
Apr 28 21:23:23 <KRS-1>	lol never even heard abou tit
Apr 28 21:23:31 <KRS-1>	but Diablo's got me glued
Apr 28 21:23:32 <Diablo-D3>	mjr___: and btw, I only upload the kernel arguments once every 2**32 hashes
Apr 28 21:23:53 <Diablo-D3>	mjr___: and the CUs set up the arguments as shared registers for the entire work group
Apr 28 21:24:04 <mjr___>	that is pretty cool
Apr 28 21:24:14 <Diablo-D3>	well, 2**32 if I use -f small-enough-number
Apr 28 21:24:17 <Diablo-D3>	but you get what I mean
Apr 28 21:24:22 <Diablo-D3>	its very infrequent
Apr 28 21:24:24 <mjr___>	right now we are working on a virtex 6 design
Apr 28 21:24:43 <Diablo-D3>	SO ANYHOW
Apr 28 21:24:44 <mjr___>	so it has a massive amount of block ram
Apr 28 21:25:02 <Diablo-D3>	IBM has produced a cabon nanotube transitor
Apr 28 21:25:13 <KRS-1>	thats craziness in itself..
Apr 28 21:25:23 <KRS-1>	that could take us off on a completely different tangent
Apr 28 21:25:45 <KRS-1>	nano=extremely small + billions of transistors = CPU no?
Apr 28 21:26:06 <Diablo-D3>	and some research team from Korea has developed a working FinFET
Apr 28 21:26:14 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: well, nanotech starts at 10nm basically
Apr 28 21:26:47 <KRS-1>	but nanotube transistors  is a deviation from traditional cpu design isnt it
Apr 28 21:26:57 <Diablo-D3>	nope
Apr 28 21:27:07 <thestringpuller>	lol nanotube
Apr 28 21:27:09 <KRS-1>	just smaller..
Apr 28 21:27:10 <Diablo-D3>	you're replacing existing dielectrics with carbon.
Apr 28 21:27:15 <thestringpuller>	is gonna come back
Apr 28 21:27:24 <joecool>	just swapping material, can maintain the design
Apr 28 21:27:27 <KRS-1>	ah and thus a friction reduction
Apr 28 21:27:43 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: no
Apr 28 21:27:46 <Diablo-D3>	friction? wtf?
Apr 28 21:27:56 <KRS-1>	no friction at that scale?
Apr 28 21:28:06 <Diablo-D3>	what sort of friction are we talking about here?
Apr 28 21:28:14 <Diablo-D3>	theres no moving parts in my CPU =P
Apr 28 21:28:19 <KRS-1>	electrons moving about in a cpu cause friction, heat right?
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Apr 28 21:28:29 <Diablo-D3>	thats not called friction
Apr 28 21:28:44 <benkay>	semantics
Apr 28 21:28:45 <KRS-1>	ok so bad use of the term but i think you know what im referring to?
Apr 28 21:29:08 <Diablo-D3>	yes, you mean resistance
Apr 28 21:29:13 <KRS-1>	right
Apr 28 21:29:25 <Diablo-D3>	the reason you decrease feature size is to decrease resistance through less voltage
Apr 28 21:29:36 <Diablo-D3>	thus less waste heat
Apr 28 21:29:48 <mjr___>	yeah the finfet operated on .7 volts at 28nm
Apr 28 21:30:27 <Diablo-D3>	mjr___: the korean one Im talking about was much smaller
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Apr 28 21:31:02 <mjr___>	yeah, i was talking about the one from taiwan semi
Apr 28 21:32:19 <mjr___>	by the way, is asicminer an actual chip or a hardcoded fpga?
Apr 28 21:32:33 <Diablo-D3>	actual chip
Apr 28 21:32:35 <Diablo-D3>	so is avalon
Apr 28 21:32:38 <Diablo-D3>	who knows what bfl is
Apr 28 21:32:39 <mjr___>	really?
Apr 28 21:32:50 <Diablo-D3>	yeah, avalon is at 90nm, asicminer is at 130nm
Apr 28 21:32:53 <joecool>	bfl is an avalon with the name ground off
Apr 28 21:33:00 <mjr___>	thought avalon was 110nm
Apr 28 21:33:18 <Diablo-D3>	they both licensed existing IP from their fabs and spammed it on their chips with minimal routing and timing wiring
Apr 28 21:33:27 <Diablo-D3>	I thought 90, might be 110
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Apr 28 21:34:44 <KRS-1>	Diablo: We are getting more clever at improving what we do, but we are not changing how we do it. Example: ever smaller tolerances for CPU design.  At some point moore's law will have to break down and not apply.  Do you think we will enter a sort of "dark ages" where there will be little, if any discovery for a very long time? Or, do you think there will be great discovery on the
Apr 28 21:34:44 <KRS-1>	horizon where we will enter a "golden age" of discovery and or "enlightenment"?
Apr 28 21:35:12 <mjr___>	it depends on whether you think we need constant improvement
Apr 28 21:35:21 <Diablo-D3>	moore's law was just a really accurate prediction anyhow
Apr 28 21:35:27 <KRS-1>	whether we need it or not, it will happen
Apr 28 21:35:37 <Diablo-D3>	KRS-1: what we need is to quit writing software like shit
Apr 28 21:35:40 <mjr___>	no...if you are asking if we would enter a dark ages
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Apr 28 21:35:48 <Diablo-D3>	its not the hardware thats the problem
Apr 28 21:35:50 <Diablo-D3>	its the software
Apr 28 21:35:56 <mjr___>	agree
Apr 28 21:35:59 <Diablo-D3>	protip: STOP USING THREADS, ASSHOLES
Apr 28 21:36:05 <mjr___>	hahaha
Apr 28 21:36:08 <joecool>	i wish battery technology would move along, that shit hasn't gone anywhere
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Apr 28 21:36:21 <Diablo-D3>	IBM solved this fucking problem in the late fucking 60s
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Apr 28 21:36:29 <Diablo-D3>	why the fuck do people keep doing it wrong
Apr 28 21:36:34 <Diablo-D3>	joecool: oh, batteries are dead
Apr 28 21:36:39 <KRS-1>	Basically, I am asking if we will come to a point where we stop discovering and keep concentrating on improving to the point where we can't anymore.  Thus, no new discoveries, no new improvements.
Apr 28 21:36:52 <joecool>	Diablo-D3: well i don't have a fuel cell in my laptop either
Apr 28 21:37:07 <mjr___>	KRS-1: if you think science is understanding the universe we live in, then what happens once we understand it all?
Apr 28 21:37:08 <Diablo-D3>	joecool: graphite supercapacitors have no memory effect, instantly charge, and hold at least 10 times more power than existing shipping tech
Apr 28 21:37:37 <Diablo-D3>	and yes, I mean charge instantly, you will not be able to provide power to it fast enough.
Apr 28 21:37:52 <joecool>	well obv, copper wires have a limit
Apr 28 21:37:55 <Diablo-D3>	it will happily peg a 120v 15a plug.
Apr 28 21:38:03 <KRS-1>	mjr: I think science is a tool for understanding what we don't..but I don't know once we understand it all..maybe the answer is "42".
Apr 28 21:38:24 <joecool>	Diablo-D3: yet nothing is at market?
Apr 28 21:38:31 <Diablo-D3>	joecool: not until 2020.
Apr 28 21:38:44 <KRS-1>	Thanks for the chat Diablo- everyone. I'm going to be doing some followup reading. I appreciate the stimulating conversations.
Apr 28 21:38:45 <mjr___>	thats my point...it only matters to get better, faster, if you have a reason
Apr 28 21:39:03 <Diablo-D3>	which btw, Ive predicted the end of the world will be sometime in 2016.
Apr 28 21:39:08 <Diablo-D3>	so /me shrugs
Apr 28 21:39:19 <KRS-1>	Oh dear, I better cultivate those investments a little more.
Apr 28 21:39:44 <Diablo-D3>	but yeah basically
Apr 28 21:39:47 <kakobrekla>	why bother with anything then Diablo-D3
Apr 28 21:39:47 <KRS-1>	If you don't mind, a couple of sentences on why you think that in a private message would be most appreciated.. I won't reply but I'll follow up with my own research.
Apr 28 21:39:48 <Diablo-D3>	computes are completely async inside
Apr 28 21:40:04 <Diablo-D3>	*computers
Apr 28 21:40:07 <joecool>	kakobrekla: exactly, i'm gonna take up drinking
Apr 28 21:40:16 <Diablo-D3>	so why write code that requires highly synchronous action
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Apr 28 21:40:28 <kakobrekla>	Diablo-D3 cause world will end in 3 years
Apr 28 21:40:30 <mjr___>	what would you use instead of threads?
Apr 28 21:40:31 <Diablo-D3>	just make everything concurrent single threaded processes and pipe everything
Apr 28 21:40:32 <kakobrekla>	nobody gives a fuck
Apr 28 21:40:37 <kakobrekla>	ya know
Apr 28 21:40:41 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: that doesnt explain the last 40 years of programming.
Apr 28 21:41:03 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, the reason your computer is basically no faster than the 486 you used to have years ago on real world tasks?
Apr 28 21:41:05 <Diablo-D3>	threads.
Apr 28 21:41:11 <kakobrekla>	Diablo-D3 they thought it was gonna be 2012
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Apr 28 21:41:14 <kakobrekla>	that explains it
Apr 28 21:41:28 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: add 3 and a half years to december 21st 2012.
Apr 28 21:42:05 <kakobrekla>	why are you still bothering then
Apr 28 21:42:13 <Diablo-D3>	bored.
Apr 28 21:42:28 <mjr___>	have the best 3 and a half years possible?
Apr 28 21:42:34 <kakobrekla>	on irc!
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Apr 28 21:45:47 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: Im not on IRC nearly as much as people think I am
Apr 28 21:45:58 <mjr___>	IRC is probably my favorite thing
Apr 28 21:46:24 <joecool>	Diablo-D3: liar, you just move around a ton of channels
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Apr 28 22:06:09 <Diablo-D3>	alright Im going to bed
Apr 28 22:06:10 <Diablo-D3>	night all
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Apr 28 22:08:03 <KRS-1>	Did you guys feel that too?  Diablo...just left.
Apr 28 22:08:11 <KRS-1>	woa
Apr 28 22:08:33 <kakobrekla>	what?
Apr 28 22:08:44 <KRS-1>	nothing..sry
Apr 28 22:12:03 <truff1es>	KRS-1 know any sad songs?
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Apr 28 22:16:08 <truff1es>	 Gloomy Sunday - Billie Holiday would fit..
Apr 28 22:17:28 <KRS-1>	hmm
Apr 28 22:17:56 <KRS-1>	wow thats old.
Apr 28 22:18:11 <KRS-1>	gimme a min i can come up with something
Apr 28 22:18:33 <truff1es>	i couldnt think of anything i listen to normally
Apr 28 22:20:15 <KRS-1>	Ok- I have the perfect one.
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Apr 28 22:20:25 <truff1es>	that song from man on fire
Apr 28 22:20:29 <mjr___>	january wedding avett brothers
Apr 28 22:20:30 <KRS-1>	This one has Annie Lennox in it, I think its a much better version.
Apr 28 22:20:32 <mjr___>	not sure if its sad
Apr 28 22:20:37 <mjr___>	or maybe bon iver blood bank
Apr 28 22:21:21 <KRS-1>	This was originally done by Neil Young but I like this version better:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1x6u1rkxS4
Apr 28 22:21:57 <KRS-1>	from one of my most fav. movies: American Beauty
Apr 28 22:22:37 <KRS-1>	goes great on a cold night with misty like rain
Apr 28 22:23:40 <truff1es>	this song's not bad
Apr 28 22:23:46 <mjr___>	which?
Apr 28 22:24:37 <truff1es>	Don´t let it bring you down- by Annie Lennox, now listening to  blood bank
Apr 28 22:25:30 <truff1es>	its got the kinda sadness im looking for
Apr 28 22:26:29 <truff1es>	if not for these chatrooms id never encounter all these types of music
Apr 28 22:26:30 <mjr___>	blood bank?
Apr 28 22:26:37 <truff1es>	ya
Apr 28 22:26:45 <mjr___>	i figured that is what you were looking for
Apr 28 22:27:01 <mjr___>	its one of my favorites
Apr 28 22:27:33 <mjr___>	sad to me meant somewhat melancholy but not necessarily having sad lyrics
Apr 28 22:27:50 <truff1es>	yea
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Apr 28 22:29:27 <KRS-1>	Thats what I said earlier truff1es- about chat rooms..Aint it great.
Apr 28 22:29:38 <truff1es>	yep
Apr 28 22:29:46 <truff1es>	u get what u want out of them
Apr 28 22:29:52 <KRS-1>	At first I thought- "Its been a while"  by Staind, then I thought, nahhh not enough. Need MOAR.
Apr 28 22:29:56 <truff1es>	i aim for culture
Apr 28 22:30:06 <KRS-1>	ok I'll keep that in mind.
Apr 28 22:30:18 <mjr___>	you also might like jose gonzalez's veneer album
Apr 28 22:30:22 <mjr___>	its pretty great
Apr 28 22:30:32 <KRS-1>	checking that out now
Apr 28 22:30:44 <mjr___>	heartbeats is prob the best song on it
Apr 28 22:30:50 <KRS-1>	ok just gonna ask u that
Apr 28 22:30:51 <mjr___>	but there are otherse that are good too
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Apr 28 22:31:52 <mjr___>	down the line is great
Apr 28 22:31:53 <KRS-1>	not bad, this is kinda cool mjr
Apr 28 22:32:03 <KRS-1>	I might be weird, but I thought this was f'n amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7knUFWY2P44
Apr 28 22:32:58 <truff1es>	José González - Save Your Day, I like
Apr 28 22:33:51 <mjr___>	i fell in love with a dead boy - antony and the johnsons
Apr 28 22:34:01 <mjr___>	the prayer is a great song too
Apr 28 22:34:08 <truff1es>	i heard that audition before
Apr 28 22:34:41 <mjr___>	KRS-1: that is a great video
Apr 28 22:35:09 <truff1es>	pieces of me thats a great one
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Apr 28 22:35:40 <truff1es>	cant think of the band, might not be the title..
Apr 28 22:36:06 <mjr___>	wagon wheel - old crow medicine show
Apr 28 22:36:17 <mjr___>	you don't know how it feels - tom petty
Apr 28 22:36:31 <truff1es>	reminds me of Phantom of the Opera
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Apr 28 22:38:05 <mjr___>	in fact...
Apr 28 22:39:19 <mjr___>	http://www.pandora.com/land/station/5824683d717a52e9d6873c0d7bdf02ef2024179d9bdf3892?referrer=joshrossi&site=facebook&shareImp=true&seed=station
Apr 28 22:40:02 <mjr___>	that is the station i listen to, if you look at its details, you will see all the music choices, which tracks i put in, which artists, and my thumbs up history
Apr 28 22:40:39 <mjr___>	so that is the best list to show you what i usually listen to...its always evolving, but i think its pretty good
Apr 28 22:41:10 <mjr___>	and you can listen to samples of each song, to choose what you like
Apr 28 22:41:32 <truff1es>	too bad it doesnt work for me..
Apr 28 22:41:37 <mjr___>	why not?
Apr 28 22:41:45 <truff1es>	...
Apr 28 22:41:57 <mjr___>	http://www.pandora.com/station/859797464278263737
Apr 28 22:42:00 <mjr___>	this link works?
Apr 28 22:42:43 <truff1es>	id need a proxy or something..
Apr 28 22:42:57 <mjr___>	oh duh, i didn't realize that you weren't in the US
Apr 28 22:43:06 <mjr___>	couldn't you just use tor?
Apr 28 22:43:14 <mjr___>	or would it be too slow for a stream?
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Apr 28 22:43:42 <mjr___>	its a pretty eclectic collection lol
Apr 28 22:43:45 <KRS-1>	mjr: That station you said you listen to- great stuff.
Apr 28 22:43:54 <mjr___>	why thank you
Apr 28 22:44:00 <mjr___>	its very eclectic
Apr 28 22:44:02 <mjr___>	i made it
Apr 28 22:44:07 <mjr___>	so its what i like
Apr 28 22:44:17 <truff1es>	i was trying to find my fav song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyyCz9z1s_M
Apr 28 22:44:19 <KRS-1>	yeh kind of my taste, although i go all over the place at times.
Apr 28 22:44:30 <KRS-1>	Johnny Cash: Hurt- is a great song
Apr 28 22:44:35 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 28 22:44:46 <mjr___>	that is why its called god's gonna cut you down radio
Apr 28 22:45:00 <mjr___>	cuz that was the song i started with
Apr 28 22:45:07 <mjr___>	then i added in a bunch of other stuff
Apr 28 22:45:14 <mjr___>	then thumbed up tracks i like
Apr 28 22:45:22 <mjr___>	so its been learning what i like
Apr 28 22:45:24 <truff1es>	ive got a mixed taste in music also
Apr 28 22:45:27 <mjr___>	but it usually works in waves
Apr 28 22:45:36 <truff1es>	i will have to try tor..
Apr 28 22:45:38 <mjr___>	so you'll get maybe a 90's rock wave
Apr 28 22:45:51 <mjr___>	then maybe an lcd soundsystem type wave
Apr 28 22:46:00 <mjr___>	then a kinda country guitar wave
Apr 28 22:46:09 <KRS-1>	truff1es: interesting- I doubt i would ever listen to this, but thanks its got my ear now..hmm.
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Apr 28 22:46:10 <mjr___>	which is kinda nice that it smooths it like that
Apr 28 22:46:21 <KRS-1>	90's rock is unreal
Apr 28 22:46:35 <KRS-1>	i think it might be my fav genre
Apr 28 22:46:42 <truff1es>	fav song out of the phantom of the opera not of all time
Apr 28 22:46:44 <KRS-1>	great to smoke to
Apr 28 22:46:46 <mjr___>	it is pretty nice
Apr 28 22:46:48 <truff1es>	i have many favorites
Apr 28 22:47:15 <KRS-1>	truff1es: same here, i can be all over the place at times..even country, but only the major hits and classics.
Apr 28 22:47:17 <mjr___>	so my station has rolling stones, violent femmes, pixies, lcd soundsystem, bruce springsteen...its kinda crazy but it works
Apr 28 22:47:36 <KRS-1>	never heard of lcd soundsystem
Apr 28 22:47:46 <KRS-1>	311 was one of my fav 90s rock
Apr 28 22:48:12 <mjr___>	dear mr. fantasy by traffic is a great song
Apr 28 22:48:18 <KRS-1>	Recently came across this that had me from the beginning, never heard it before:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvjFThqmq0
Apr 28 22:48:32 <KRS-1>	Gonna check that one out now
Apr 28 22:49:21 <mjr___>	http://www.pandora.com/david-bowie/bowie-at-beeb-best-of-bbc-radio-sessions-68-72/ziggy-stardust-bbc-radio-version-live
Apr 28 22:49:53 <KRS-1>	not bad..makes me feel like I should have a beer in my hand.
Apr 28 22:50:27 <mjr___>	all i want is you - U2
Apr 28 22:50:40 <truff1es>	do u have to download tor browser?
Apr 28 22:50:40 <mjr___>	i've been a big fan of the avett brothers lately
Apr 28 22:50:49 <mjr___>	a perfect space is a good song by them\
Apr 28 22:50:55 <mjr___>	truff1es: no i don't think so
Apr 28 22:50:58 <mjr___>	try this
Apr 28 22:52:09 <truff1es>	i might as well get it for future use
Apr 28 22:52:12 <KRS-1>	dear mr. fantasy by traffic:  WOW
Apr 28 22:52:19 <KRS-1>	This pings me a bit
Apr 28 22:52:30 <mjr___>	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/22/tor_japan_police_ban/ This is not good
Apr 28 22:52:33 <truff1es>	sandbox wont cut it
Apr 28 22:52:54 <mjr___>	seven by david bowie
Apr 28 22:53:08 <KRS-1>	THANKS mjr- this is going into the collection
Apr 28 22:53:11 <mjr___>	hmmm i was thinking of the website that passes through
Apr 28 22:53:19 <KRS-1>	Its like..a smokey bar song.
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Apr 28 22:53:40 <KRS-1>	Who are they to say the Internet SHOULDN'T be anonymous. Its far too personal as it is.
Apr 28 22:56:40 <truff1es>	flash and my pc are like enemies
Apr 28 22:57:48 <mjr___>	http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html
Apr 28 22:57:52 <mjr___>	try that?
Apr 28 22:57:58 <truff1es>	got tor
Apr 28 22:58:14 <mjr___>	cool
Apr 28 22:58:19 <truff1es>	just need to refresh
Apr 28 22:58:48 <KRS-1>	those anonymizer sites are probably even more monitored than as if you don't even use em, but if you just don't want to be known by the server you are contacting then np
Apr 28 22:59:14 <KRS-1>	two different uses at hand
Apr 28 22:59:16 <mjr___>	eh, this is just to use pandora overseas
Apr 28 22:59:35 <KRS-1>	cant use pandora from outside the U.S.?
Apr 28 22:59:40 <truff1es>	why wont it recognized the update!!
Apr 28 22:59:49 <mjr___>	nope
Apr 28 22:59:51 <truff1es>	ok gotta try annon site
Apr 28 23:01:09 <truff1es>	do u normally restart after installing flash?
Apr 28 23:01:12 <truff1es>	i dont remember
Apr 28 23:01:22 <mjr___>	not sure, i don't think so...but i don't know
Apr 28 23:01:46 <truff1es>	i often end up deleting it and reinstalling when needed
Apr 28 23:01:54 <truff1es>	but i cant remember heh
Apr 28 23:02:12 <mjr___>	i'm on windows 7 and flash is installed
Apr 28 23:02:18 <mjr___>	i have virtual machines for other things
Apr 28 23:02:18 <truff1es>	anyways this songs great  Antony & The Johnsons - I fell in Love with a Death Boy
Apr 28 23:02:28 <mjr___>	figured you would like it
Apr 28 23:02:53 <truff1es>	u couldnt know  though
Apr 28 23:03:11 <truff1es>	my tastes somethings are borderline snobbery
Apr 28 23:03:11 <mjr___>	KRS-1: Making Me Nervous - Brad Sucks
Apr 28 23:03:27 <mjr___>	well, like i said, i figured you wanted a certain level of melancholy
Apr 28 23:03:40 <truff1es>	ya
Apr 28 23:03:44 <mjr___>	probably pretty voices, minor tonality
Apr 28 23:04:10 <truff1es>	i tend to zone in on vocalist
Apr 28 23:04:18 <mjr___>	yeah, i get that
Apr 28 23:04:30 <truff1es>	but i like dubstep : p
Apr 28 23:04:33 <mjr___>	me too
Apr 28 23:04:51 <mjr___>	like i said, everything from old appalachian string bands to skrillex
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Apr 28 23:05:21 <truff1es>	omg this person is weird , is it a man?
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Apr 28 23:06:02 <mjr___>	truff1es: seven by david bowie... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj8y3cpSf6s
Apr 28 23:06:17 <mjr___>	truff1es: he is a gay guy i think
Apr 28 23:06:20 <truff1es>	im gonna have to come back to the pandora sometime
Apr 28 23:06:34 <truff1es>	too much going on on my screen
Apr 28 23:08:11 <mjr___>	cool
Apr 28 23:08:27 <mjr___>	did you like les miserables?
Apr 28 23:08:41 <truff1es>	yep
Apr 28 23:08:42 <mjr___>	ann hathaway almost brought tears to my eyes
Apr 28 23:09:14 <truff1es>	tragedies are prob auto like by me
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Apr 28 23:09:53 <truff1es>	seven is a good one
Apr 28 23:10:33 <mjr___>	truff1es: do you know of "the magnetic fields"
Apr 28 23:10:48 <KRS-1>	no?
Apr 28 23:10:56 <mjr___>	they have a ton of songs you will like i think
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Apr 28 23:11:10 <KRS-1>	if you can recomment their best one or biggest hit
Apr 28 23:11:25 <mjr___>	specifically look up "papa was a rodeo", "nothing matters when we're dancing", "the book of love"...
Apr 28 23:11:30 <mjr___>	check it out too KRS-1
Apr 28 23:11:58 <KRS-1>	ok ill do that now
Apr 28 23:12:23 <KRS-1>	HAH!  Check out wax-rosanna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0aRb4rAq0I
Apr 28 23:12:28 <mjr___>	fake plastic trees (acoustic version) by radiohead
Apr 28 23:12:30 <KRS-1>	This is an hilarious video
Apr 28 23:12:31 <truff1es>	not a fan of johnny cash..
Apr 28 23:12:32 <KRS-1>	good song too
Apr 28 23:13:03 <KRS-1>	truff1es I wasnt either but somehow i got to listen to a few of his hits and broadened my horizons..idk how
Apr 28 23:13:04 <truff1es>	let me relisten to hurt before i say that again heh
Apr 28 23:13:15 <KRS-1>	exactly..i think thats the song that did it
Apr 28 23:13:40 <mjr___>	yes, that is my favorite
Apr 28 23:13:46 <KRS-1>	Magnetic Fields Papa was a Rodeo
Apr 28 23:13:55 <KRS-1>	nine inch nails did that one
Apr 28 23:14:03 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 28 23:14:03 <KRS-1>	hmm this is interesting mjr
Apr 28 23:14:05 <KRS-1>	different
Apr 28 23:14:23 <truff1es>	yep still dont like mr cash
Apr 28 23:14:31 <KRS-1>	LOL truff1es
Apr 28 23:14:37 <mjr___>	it was almost all covers on american IV
Apr 28 23:14:37 <KRS-1>	not for everyone
Apr 28 23:14:41 <KRS-1>	similar in style to U2-numb
Apr 28 23:15:27 <KRS-1>	seems like magnetic fields is an acquired taste
Apr 28 23:15:27 <truff1es>	the magnetic fields voice is similar
Apr 28 23:15:38 <KRS-1>	yes sure seems like it
Apr 28 23:16:02 <truff1es>	have to be in a mood for that..
Apr 28 23:16:27 <mjr___>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHL1X0jV0dI
Apr 28 23:16:30 <KRS-1>	I've heard fake plastic trees (acoustic version) by radiohead..good one
Apr 28 23:16:48 <mjr___>	i just like this because its beautiful with the black and white video of people dancing back when america still had class LOL
Apr 28 23:17:13 <KRS-1>	mjr: u might like this
Apr 28 23:17:13 <KRS-1>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0O0nzkESTI
Apr 28 23:17:15 <mjr___>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHL1X0jV0dI
Apr 28 23:17:35 <truff1es>	i guess this is where our tastes clash
Apr 28 23:18:19 <mjr___>	hallelujah - jeff buckley   ?
Apr 28 23:18:22 <KRS-1>	it happens
Apr 28 23:18:30 <truff1es>	yep good one
Apr 28 23:18:46 <mjr___>	did you not like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHL1X0jV0dI ?
Apr 28 23:18:50 <KRS-1>	stone temple pilots- trippin on a hole in a paper heart    This one revvs my engine
Apr 28 23:20:00 <KRS-1>	is it just me or am I still looking at a rising wedge here..i'm still holding on my orders.
Apr 28 23:21:40 <truff1es>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfFi4Q7ueA8 if we must dance
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Apr 28 23:22:47 <mjr___>	oh you will appreciate this KRS-1
Apr 28 23:23:09 <mjr___>	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2218682996901&set=a.1092346279187.15249.1542422870&type=3&theater
Apr 28 23:24:33 <truff1es>	mjr are u a fan of mayer?
Apr 28 23:24:41 <mjr___>	john mayer? not really
Apr 28 23:24:43 <KRS-1>	HAHAHA yep thanks lol!
Apr 28 23:25:35 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
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Apr 28 23:28:27 <mjr___>	i think that was from the network+ practice tests
Apr 28 23:28:39 <truff1es>	mjr and KRS-1 thanks for all the links, i bid u adieu
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Apr 28 23:32:13 <KRS-1>	same
Apr 28 23:32:18 <KRS-1>	it was a pleasure, guys
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Apr 29 01:58:18 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 29 01:58:19 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 51 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> right.
Apr 29 02:00:40 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22292708
Apr 29 02:00:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00070324 = 4.5007 BTC [+]
Apr 29 02:00:46 <Chaang-Noi>	front page of bbc, crazy
Apr 29 02:00:55 <Chaang-Noi>	this keeps happening
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Apr 29 02:09:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070324 = 5.7666 BTC [+]
Apr 29 02:09:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070324 = 5.7666 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 02:26:17 <KRS-1>	powerful article
Apr 29 02:26:38 <Chaang-Noi>	im shocked very shocked by the amount of press btc has gotten
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Apr 29 02:40:19 <SoulKhan>	knowledge reigns supreme
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Apr 29 03:26:07 <taub>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgLgaT2xhyY
Apr 29 03:26:11 <taub>	holy shit lmao
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Apr 29 03:26:36 <taub>	is that mtux? giving the interview on a cyan gymnastic ball
Apr 29 03:26:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13858 @ 0.00069366 = 9.6127 BTC [-]
Apr 29 03:27:05 <jurov>	REVOLUTION http://i.imgur.com/VsIXO9R.png
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Apr 29 03:37:43 <b0n1>	taub, i think so
Apr 29 03:38:12 <b0n1>	KRS-1, what article do you mean?
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Apr 29 03:45:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 04:02:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00069806 = 3.3856 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:02:22 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4743 @ 0.00070297 = 3.3342 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:02:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143 @ 0.00070377 = 0.1006 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 04:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32000001 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:10:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 90 @ 0.32 = 28.8 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 04:22:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 408 @ 0.003 = 1.224 BTC [-]
Apr 29 04:23:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3107 @ 0.00070377 = 2.1866 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:23:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3066 @ 0.00070885 = 2.1733 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:23:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00071443 = 1.7146 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:23:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071488 = 3.5744 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:24:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3277 @ 0.000715 = 2.3431 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 04:31:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 04:31:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.428 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 04:32:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 28 @ 0.016 = 0.448 BTC [-]
Apr 29 04:35:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:44:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00069366 = 6.0695 BTC [-]
Apr 29 04:44:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0051 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:46:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 81 @ 0.01 = 0.81 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:46:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 89 @ 0.01 = 0.89 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 04:48:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [+]
Apr 29 04:49:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00329 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 05:06:40 <Diablo-D3>	so hrm
Apr 29 05:06:46 <Diablo-D3>	still wondering if I want to bid on those units
Apr 29 05:16:40 <KRS-1>	b0n1: this article  <Chaang-Noi> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22292708
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Apr 29 05:26:57 <b0n1>	Diablo-D3, which units?
Apr 29 05:27:08 <Diablo-D3>	asicminer blades
Apr 29 05:28:00 <dub>	fuck dat
Apr 29 05:28:35 <Diablo-D3>	dub: well yeah
Apr 29 05:28:39 <Diablo-D3>	the prices have gone up too high
Apr 29 05:28:50 <Diablo-D3>	they cant pay for themselves in 2 months anymore
Apr 29 05:29:10 <b0n1>	yeah too risky
Apr 29 05:31:16 <davout>	how much are they being sold for ?
Apr 29 05:31:36 <Diablo-D3>	current bids are heading up towards 40 btc
Apr 29 05:31:49 <davout>	for which kind of hashrate ?
Apr 29 05:31:56 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189248
Apr 29 05:31:59 <Diablo-D3>	davout: 10gh
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Apr 29 05:32:46 <davout>	thanks! i'll have a look
Apr 29 05:33:08 <Diablo-D3>	how much did an avalon sell for?
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Apr 29 05:39:08 <Chaang-Noi>	avolon is 60 or 80 ghs?>
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Apr 29 05:39:11 <Diablo-D3>	68
Apr 29 05:39:23 <Chaang-Noi>	ok
Apr 29 05:40:51 <Diablo-D3>	the 4 blade ones are 88
Apr 29 05:40:58 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 you think that auction will get into the 60s?
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Apr 29 05:41:09 <Diablo-D3>	Chaang-Noi: yes, I just said exactly that in the htread
Apr 29 05:41:22 <Chaang-Noi>	i know, im just shocked
Apr 29 05:41:28 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont think it will get into the 50s
Apr 29 05:41:35 <Diablo-D3>	whats the top bid now? 45?
Apr 29 05:41:47 <Chaang-Noi>	42.5
Apr 29 05:41:56 <Chaang-Noi>	but 36 now is still a valid bid
Apr 29 05:42:09 <Chaang-Noi>	no way we will get into the 60s
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Apr 29 05:42:16 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe 50s... but i doubt that
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Apr 29 05:45:50 <Diablo-D3>	look at the previous auction, it jumped like 30 btc during the last few hours
Apr 29 05:46:09 <Chaang-Noi>	well time will tell but id make a bet we dont go into the 60s :)
Apr 29 05:50:25 <Diablo-D3>	its probably not going to clear 70
Apr 29 05:50:32 <Diablo-D3>	I think we can both agree onthat
Apr 29 05:50:39 <Chaang-Noi>	well yeah :)
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Apr 29 06:00:08 <Chaang-Noi>	mp that guy in finland just bought 700 more btc at 134.5 he said
Apr 29 06:00:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00329 = 0.0099 BTC [+]
Apr 29 06:00:35 <Chaang-Noi>	i wonder what his average buy in price is
Apr 29 06:00:45 <Chaang-Noi>	but still, long term i bet he does well
Apr 29 06:01:54 <mircea_popescu>	well it's impossible to know. if he were sane then i'm sure he'd do well. has a silver business or w/e, bought some btc, sounds good
Apr 29 06:02:01 <mircea_popescu>	unfortunately he doesn't sound sane.
Apr 29 06:02:38 <Chaang-Noi>	i sold him the coin, i wanted to call his bluff, i did not think he had the fiat
Apr 29 06:02:56 <Chaang-Noi>	so we will see if the fiat comes in, if not lu;z will be had
Apr 29 06:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	well wait
Apr 29 06:03:26 <mircea_popescu>	you sent btc first ?!
Apr 29 06:03:26 <Diablo-D3>	how many BTC?
Apr 29 06:03:34 <Chaang-Noi>	ha
Apr 29 06:03:38 <Chaang-Noi>	no i did not send first
Apr 29 06:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	o, escrew ?
Apr 29 06:03:50 <Chaang-Noi>	he is going to send first, if/when i get the money i send btc
Apr 29 06:03:53 <mircea_popescu>	also in the news http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133475342584.jpg
Apr 29 06:03:54 <Chaang-Noi>	no escrow
Apr 29 06:04:16 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yuki's kitchen?
Apr 29 06:04:36 <Chaang-Noi>	so either he does send and we ahve a good trade or he does not send and i make some lulz
Apr 29 06:04:36 <mircea_popescu>	it's funny cause that's the first roast beast i've seen with the hair still on.
Apr 29 06:04:43 <mircea_popescu>	win-win
Apr 29 06:04:51 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: s/roast beast/long pig/
Apr 29 06:04:57 <Chaang-Noi>	Forbidden
Apr 29 06:04:58 <Chaang-Noi>	You don't have permission to access /dtng/c/src/133475342584.jpg on this server.
Apr 29 06:04:58 <Chaang-Noi>	Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apr 29 06:05:04 <Chaang-Noi>	why i fail mp?
Apr 29 06:05:13 <mircea_popescu>	possibly got banned ?
Apr 29 06:05:22 <Chaang-Noi>	im happy he is sending directly to me in thailand
Apr 29 06:05:29 <Chaang-Noi>	taxes suck...
Apr 29 06:05:36 <Chaang-Noi>	im not sure how i got banned
Apr 29 06:05:39 <Chaang-Noi>	iv never posted
Apr 29 06:05:51 <mircea_popescu>	maybe you're on a shared ip or som,ething ?
Apr 29 06:06:02 <mircea_popescu>	are you on one of those pool things ?
Apr 29 06:06:21 <Chaang-Noi>	its synamic, or changes or what not, but i doubt many people here in thailand post on your blog
Apr 29 06:06:28 <Chaang-Noi>	dynamic
Apr 29 06:06:54 <mircea_popescu>	post probably not, try to spam possibly.
Apr 29 06:07:02 <Chaang-Noi>	not a big deal, but your site rejects me about 255 of the time for some odd reason
Apr 29 06:07:17 <Chaang-Noi>	oh, thailand has some spammers
Apr 29 06:07:25 <Chaang-Noi>	im blocked from 4chan for that reason
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Apr 29 06:07:35 <mircea_popescu>	yeah well that'sd explain it
Apr 29 06:08:10 <PsychoticBoy>	good morning all
Apr 29 06:08:15 <Chaang-Noi>	hi
Apr 29 06:08:17 <PsychoticBoy>	yes even you mircea
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Apr 29 06:08:53 <DiabloD3>	mircea_popescu: since when did you enjoy cannibalism art?
Apr 29 06:09:18 <PsychoticBoy>	so whats up with the insane amount of btc ppl paying for ASICMINER eruptor blades??
Apr 29 06:09:38 <Chaang-Noi>	no idea
Apr 29 06:09:39 <mircea_popescu>	since forever
Apr 29 06:09:49 <Chaang-Noi>	but as a stock holder im happy
Apr 29 06:10:00 <PsychoticBoy>	I would be too Goat
Apr 29 06:10:02 <DiabloD3>	yeah really
Apr 29 06:10:06 <DiabloD3>	Im a stock holder and Im happy
Apr 29 06:10:31 <PsychoticBoy>	I have 500 shares and I am happy only thing is, they (the buyers ) are stupid
Apr 29 06:10:34 <Chaang-Noi>	am should sell as many as they can now before bfl fixes their shit
Apr 29 06:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	Graet https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164913.0
Apr 29 06:11:13 <mircea_popescu>	if you've not seen it
Apr 29 06:13:12 <PsychoticBoy>	but why should someone pay 40+ btc for a 10Gh/s miner? does it mean I can sell my 15Gh/s farm for 60+ btc? dont think so
Apr 29 06:13:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.297 BTC [+]
Apr 29 06:13:41 <Chaang-Noi>	if there is free electric then yeah
Apr 29 06:13:52 <Chaang-Noi>	asics as ytou know are awesome cuz energy use
Apr 29 06:14:18 <PsychoticBoy>	how much energy fot the blade? 200w
Apr 29 06:14:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2979 BTC [+]
Apr 29 06:14:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
Apr 29 06:15:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.01 = 0.11 BTC [+]
Apr 29 06:15:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Apr 29 06:15:36 <Chaang-Noi>	i dont know
Apr 29 06:15:45 <Chaang-Noi>	but that seems high
Apr 29 06:16:31 <mircea_popescu>	CryptoTrader scammed me out of 500 FC
Apr 29 06:16:33 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck is a fc ?
Apr 29 06:16:48 <PsychoticBoy>	freicoin?
Apr 29 06:16:51 <Chaang-Noi>	feather coin?
Apr 29 06:16:52 <PsychoticBoy>	heilcoin
Apr 29 06:17:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
Apr 29 06:17:13 <PsychoticBoy>	could be both
Apr 29 06:17:23 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah i dont know
Apr 29 06:20:50 <mircea_popescu>	Hi, I want to borrow 782.1 BTC.
Apr 29 06:20:58 <Chaang-Noi>	me too
Apr 29 06:21:02 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 782 * 134
Apr 29 06:21:02 <gribble>	104788
Apr 29 06:21:12 <mircea_popescu>	100k loan w/o any of rthe paperwork.
Apr 29 06:21:45 <mircea_popescu>	he wants to copy zefir's plan, with opm
Apr 29 06:21:49 <Chaang-Noi>	well... that finland guy is suposidly sending me 1`00k with no paperwork
Apr 29 06:22:02 <Chaang-Noi>	opm?
Apr 29 06:22:09 <mircea_popescu>	other people's money
Apr 29 06:22:22 <Scrat>	any loan over 100 btc should require sexual favors for life
Apr 29 06:22:23 <Chaang-Noi>	ahh
Apr 29 06:22:33 <Chaang-Noi>	zefir is build the asics guy right?
Apr 29 06:22:38 <Chaang-Noi>	the avlon stuff?
Apr 29 06:23:44 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 29 06:23:47 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/ryandickherber/status/328178648463069186
Apr 29 06:23:57 <mircea_popescu>	lmao... wasn't i saying this last month ?
Apr 29 06:24:32 <Chaang-Noi>	charged with what?
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Apr 29 06:25:38 <mircea_popescu>	the germans are investigationg a phishing ring
Apr 29 06:26:04 <Chaang-Noi>	oh really?
Apr 29 06:26:16 <Chaang-Noi>	i guess i just dont know enought about bitcoin 24
Apr 29 06:29:06 <thestringpuller>	oh wow mircea_popescu is awake
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Apr 29 06:29:11 <thestringpuller>	but I guess it is like evening there
Apr 29 06:29:25 <davout>	it's actually noon in europe
Apr 29 06:29:31 <thestringpuller>	i know
Apr 29 06:29:43 <thestringpuller>	it's like 6 AM here
Apr 29 06:29:48 <davout>	oh, sorry you weren't talking about europe
Apr 29 06:29:51 <thestringpuller>	and probably fucking night time already in asian
Apr 29 06:29:57 <thestringpuller>	asia*
Apr 29 06:30:26 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu was last awake around the time Game of Thrones was on
Apr 29 06:30:38 <thestringpuller>	;;google install python-egg
Apr 29 06:30:39 <gribble>	A small introduction to Python Eggs - MrTopf: <http://mrtopf.de/blog/en/a-small-introduction-to-python-eggs/>; setuptools 0.6c11 : Python Package Index: <https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools>; [Tutor] How do you install EGG files - python.org Mailing Lists: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2007-July/055584.html>
Apr 29 06:31:16 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller whence this fascination with times ?
Apr 29 06:31:28 <Scrat>	thestringpuller: it was a good ep
Apr 29 06:31:57 <DiabloD3>	lol fucking python eggs
Apr 29 06:32:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.10629 = 0.5315 BTC [+]
Apr 29 06:32:04 <DiabloD3>	another reason not to use python
Apr 29 06:32:37 <thestringpuller>	:D
Apr 29 06:32:51 <thestringpuller>	I don't have time to write C.
Apr 29 06:33:03 <thestringpuller>	Nor teach anyone C.
Apr 29 06:33:08 <DiabloD3>	heh
Apr 29 06:33:09 *	DiabloD3 writes in C
Apr 29 06:33:17 <thestringpuller>	Yes C is awesome. Best language ever.
Apr 29 06:33:17 *	DiabloD3 is sure as hell not teaching anyone C
Apr 29 06:33:26 <thestringpuller>	But it takes a long time to learn, and a long time to use.
Apr 29 06:33:31 <DiabloD3>	although rust is looking pretty nifty
Apr 29 06:33:53 <thestringpuller>	You probably love C because it's more granular to optimize no?
Apr 29 06:34:06 <Scrat>	he loves C because he is into BDSM
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Apr 29 06:34:09 <Scrat>	no other reason really
Apr 29 06:34:10 <thestringpuller>	Or even to debug per machine :P
Apr 29 06:34:14 <DiabloD3>	I like C because it doesn't enforce broken behavior
Apr 29 06:34:25 <thestringpuller>	LOL
Apr 29 06:34:43 <thestringpuller>	Because its like 30 years old.
Apr 29 06:34:57 <DiabloD3>	although I _really_ wish I didn't have to basically ignore the libc
Apr 29 06:35:08 <DiabloD3>	too much stuff written in C is thread safe
Apr 29 06:35:11 <Scrat>	i don't know why would anyone code in C anymore, unless they absolutely had to
Apr 29 06:35:21 <DiabloD3>	Scrat: because all other languages suck
Apr 29 06:35:54 <DiabloD3>	evernote:///view/30460238/s248/c188c52a-3db4-46c1-84d8-1a38d5b93181/c188c52a-3db4-46c1-84d8-1a38d5b93181/
Apr 29 06:35:56 <DiabloD3>	errr
Apr 29 06:35:58 <DiabloD3>	thanks evernote
Apr 29 06:36:13 <DiabloD3>	https://www.evernote.com/shard/s248/sh/c188c52a-3db4-46c1-84d8-1a38d5b93181/0312b5aa06a4b1a4c8442272863e87a1
Apr 29 06:36:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.016 = 0.032 BTC [-]
Apr 29 06:36:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0164 = 0.1312 BTC [+]
Apr 29 06:36:59 <DiabloD3>	there, find me a language that does all of that
Apr 29 06:37:59 <KRS-1>	some of this would be blasphemy in to java
Apr 29 06:38:13 <DiabloD3>	yes, java is one of those languages that are wrong.
Apr 29 06:38:25 <KRS-1>	for real
Apr 29 06:38:48 <KRS-1>	so are a lot of the java developers i've had to work with
Apr 29 06:38:52 <Scrat>	I think there are more important matters, for example why the fuck would you have to use an external lib to have simple things like hash maps?
Apr 29 06:38:57 <Scrat>	hurrr static typing
Apr 29 06:39:24 <KRS-1>	like..you hack code for a living?? really?  never seen such people that don't take pride in their code in my life
Apr 29 06:39:51 <DiabloD3>	Scrat: well, with C, I'm working on a library that isnt just fucking shit.
Apr 29 06:39:55 <KRS-1>	where I work I have to support dev teams..some of the crap I've seen will make you cringe.
Apr 29 06:40:37 <KRS-1>	C is amazing..and been around a while..probably will be.
Apr 29 06:40:44 <KRS-1>	I never could grasp assembly though
Apr 29 06:40:55 <KRS-1>	its too primitive for me
Apr 29 06:41:02 <Scrat>	it will be around forever, probably like 90% of internet infrastructure is written in C
Apr 29 06:41:22 <Scrat>	C/C++
Apr 29 06:41:42 <Scrat>	DiabloD3 just had an embolism when I added the ++
Apr 29 06:43:08 <KRS-1>	LOL
Apr 29 06:43:34 <Scrat>	he is also a boost hater, and I'll agree with him there
Apr 29 06:43:41 <Scrat>	but it's needed to cover the suck
Apr 29 06:44:03 <KRS-1>	haha u have a cool way of putting things
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Apr 29 06:44:46 <DiabloD3>	Scrat: thats why you dont use a shitty language to begin wtih
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Apr 29 06:48:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00069685 = 1.2543 BTC [+]
Apr 29 06:48:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 365 @ 0.00069366 = 0.2532 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 06:54:40 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-prison-for-selling-kids-to-private-prisons?news=843116
Apr 29 07:05:47 <Chaang-Noi>	28 years? the last time i heard about that or a differnt story they only got 2 years each
Apr 29 07:05:53 <jurov>	i like C. Except for string operations where I need pen and paper to visualize where the pointers end up.
Apr 29 07:06:03 <Chaang-Noi>	sell 700 btc, then we go up... lulz
Apr 29 07:06:49 <jurov>	wtf is "juvenile-prison developer"?
Apr 29 07:07:07 <mircea_popescu>	one that builds prisons for kids
Apr 29 07:07:21 <jurov>	oh, there is such a vocation in US nao?
Apr 29 07:07:23 <Chaang-Noi>	that page wont load for me, but im going to guess this is in the usa?
Apr 29 07:07:35 <jurov>	Chaang-Noi: just wait, takes time
Apr 29 07:07:43 <Chaang-Noi>	it failed twice for me
Apr 29 07:07:43 <mircea_popescu>	jurov yeah.
Apr 29 07:08:04 <Chaang-Noi>	Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
Apr 29 07:08:06 <Chaang-Noi>	lol
Apr 29 07:08:30 <Chaang-Noi>	HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.
Apr 29 07:08:37 <Chaang-Noi>	pretty sure its just down
Apr 29 07:10:00 <jurov>	goat: here for ya http://bitbin.it/GFjNBnZt
Apr 29 07:10:34 <Chaang-Noi>	thanks
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Apr 29 07:11:12 <Chaang-Noi>	this is from 2011
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Apr 29 07:12:07 <Chaang-Noi>	i heard about this but thought the judges only got 2 years
Apr 29 07:12:13 <Chaang-Noi>	and i thought there were two of them
Apr 29 07:12:34 <Chaang-Noi>	i saw a documentry on the prision system of the usa and they had a bit on this place
Apr 29 07:12:50 <Chaang-Noi>	one boy got 10 months for tossing a steak at his dad
Apr 29 07:13:44 <Chaang-Noi>	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22334251    how can they drive that car???
Apr 29 07:21:01 <KRS-1>	wtf i was dead wrong on market price everything i looked at told me it was supposed to go down
Apr 29 07:21:21 <Chaang-Noi>	120 to 165 range for now
Apr 29 07:21:22 <KRS-1>	i was seeing bouncing cat at first then rising wedge..this must be hype?
Apr 29 07:21:33 <KRS-1>	so mid day dip maybe
Apr 29 07:21:41 <Chaang-Noi>	there is a lot and lot of money pouring into btc now
Apr 29 07:22:10 <Chaang-Noi>	also i just sold 700 btc so there is that too:)   it goes up if i sell
Apr 29 07:25:18 <KRS-1>	thanks a lot chaang-noi :P
Apr 29 07:25:27 <KRS-1>	no biggie i've been doing ok
Apr 29 07:26:47 <jurov>	;;ticker
Apr 29 07:26:47 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.50000, Best ask: 142.96302, Bid-ask spread: 0.46302, Last trade: 142.50000, 24 hour volume: 38895.80757496, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 143.00000, 24 hour vwap: 136.06785
Apr 29 07:30:42 <Uglux>	you sold 700 coins to rpietila? ^^
Apr 29 07:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	Uglux well agreed to the sale.
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Apr 29 07:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069113 = 6.9113 BTC [-]
Apr 29 07:41:45 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00069036 = 0.863 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 07:48:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol jurov i see usagi & co are trolling you hard
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Apr 29 07:52:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00072 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
Apr 29 07:52:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 98 @ 0.00072 = 0.0706 BTC [-]
Apr 29 07:58:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1199 @ 0.00067649 = 0.8111 BTC [-]
Apr 29 08:00:11 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 29 08:00:12 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 135.84
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Apr 29 08:02:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000651 = 0.0065 BTC [+]
Apr 29 08:03:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 466 @ 0.003 = 1.398 BTC [-]
Apr 29 08:03:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00991 = 0.0595 BTC [-]
Apr 29 08:03:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 34 @ 0.009901 = 0.3366 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 08:08:32 <error4733>	;;next
Apr 29 08:08:32 <gribble>	targets: 150, 160-164 | resistance: 136, 140 | support: 120, 118-114, 106-103 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 28 2013, 00:29 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 day, 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 31 seconds ago
Apr 29 08:08:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.000651 = 0.0163 BTC [+]
Apr 29 08:09:00 <error4733>	;;asks 151
Apr 29 08:09:03 <gribble>	There are currently 11295.425 bitcoins offered at or under 151.0 USD, worth 1664369.15133 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
Apr 29 08:09:17 <error4733>	;;bids 122
Apr 29 08:09:18 <gribble>	There are currently 27969.246 bitcoins demanded at or over 122.0 USD, worth 3617338.10143 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.3214 seconds
Apr 29 08:09:44 <error4733>	;;eightball 160$ today ?
Apr 29 08:09:44 <gribble>	Naturally.
Apr 29 08:11:08 <error4733>	second mortgage house
Apr 29 08:11:17 <error4733>	Oups wrong windows
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Apr 29 08:22:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.002755 = 0.2755 BTC [+]
Apr 29 08:22:24 <mircea_popescu>	Explosion shakes central Prague, as many as 40 injured
Apr 29 08:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.321 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 08:25:39 <mircea_popescu>	also, since i imagine this is what you folks
Apr 29 08:25:43 <mircea_popescu>	have been waiting for :
Apr 29 08:25:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/27/lingerie-firm-launches-womens-underwear-for-men-3669208/
Apr 29 08:27:05 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 29 08:27:06 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.32440, Best ask: 143.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.57560, Last trade: 143.32440, 24 hour volume: 42689.49700892, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 143.99000, 24 hour vwap: 136.88480
Apr 29 08:27:11 <kakobrekla>	what is this now
Apr 29 08:27:25 <kakobrekla>	i dun like it
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Apr 29 08:29:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.013 = 0.078 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 08:41:04 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu make it stop
Apr 29 08:41:19 <kakobrekla>	post a blog or a twitter or smth
Apr 29 08:41:19 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla hm ?
Apr 29 08:41:29 <mircea_popescu>	lolwhat
Apr 29 08:41:31 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 29 08:41:31 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.11000, Best ask: 145.11110, Bid-ask spread: 0.00110, Last trade: 145.11000, 24 hour volume: 47306.16273368, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 146.56373, 24 hour vwap: 137.70079
Apr 29 08:41:42 <mircea_popescu>	so what's wrong with 145
Apr 29 08:42:04 <kakobrekla>	145 leads to 150 which leads to 160 which leads to 170
Apr 29 08:42:12 <ThickAsThieves>	madness
Apr 29 08:43:10 <Uglux>	http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/36523623.jpg
Apr 29 08:43:11 <mircea_popescu>	yes i agree. must be 0
Apr 29 08:43:12 <mircea_popescu>	safest.
Apr 29 08:45:17 <ThickAsThieves>	;;later tell Namworld please pm when you have a couple minutes, thanks!
Apr 29 08:45:18 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 29 08:46:20 <truff1es>	;;seen bowjob
Apr 29 08:46:20 <gribble>	bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 13 hours, 39 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <bowjob> lol
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Apr 29 08:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 08:54:36 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134573024371.jpg
Apr 29 08:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	books are good for you
Apr 29 08:55:20 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10860 @ 0.00067147 = 7.2922 BTC [-]
Apr 29 08:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42006 @ 0.00068157 = 28.63 BTC [+]
Apr 29 08:57:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15508 @ 0.00068592 = 10.6372 BTC [+]
Apr 29 08:57:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27935 @ 0.00069141 = 19.3145 BTC [+]
Apr 29 08:57:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00069621 = 8.6678 BTC [+]
Apr 29 08:57:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2101 @ 0.00069808 = 1.4667 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 08:59:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 200 @ 0.14768654 = 29.5373 BTC [-]
Apr 29 09:08:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-]
Apr 29 09:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4811 = 4.811 BTC [+]
Apr 29 09:13:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 35 @ 0.4812 = 16.842 BTC [+]
Apr 29 09:13:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.482 = 5.784 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 09:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.32 = 9.28 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 09:20:08 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 29 09:20:09 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 146.34300, Best ask: 146.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.65699, Last trade: 146.99999, 24 hour volume: 58139.03194207, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 139.47241
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Apr 29 09:21:10 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93445.msg1974697#msg1974697
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Apr 29 09:21:14 <kakobrekla>	mmmmkay
Apr 29 09:21:29 <kakobrekla>	a great fuckin loan
Apr 29 09:21:35 <kakobrekla>	he got
Apr 29 09:22:10 <kakobrekla>	where do i sign up
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Apr 29 09:32:24 <jurov>	eskimobob alive and kicking: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1843245#msg1843245
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Apr 29 09:36:51 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 29 09:36:52 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 19.402332 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0388820560887 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
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Apr 29 09:37:36 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 29 09:37:37 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 55.095492 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.110410749088 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 29 09:38:26 <error4733>	Monday shitstorm !! Goooooooooo ! i need more cheap coin !
Apr 29 09:40:06 <kakobrekla>	doesnt look like cheap to me
Apr 29 09:40:41 <error4733>	;;goxlag
Apr 29 09:40:42 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 0.963318 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00193047848615 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
Apr 29 09:42:00 <error4733>	always a little hope when i see 1m lag !
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Apr 29 09:43:52 <error4733>	;;bids 0
Apr 29 09:43:52 <gribble>	There are currently 4.4809135e+08 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20282289.5227 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.9629 seconds
Apr 29 09:44:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.010025 = 0.0602 BTC [+]
Apr 29 09:44:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.010025 = 0.1504 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 09:45:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010025 BTC [+]
Apr 29 09:45:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.010026 = 0.0301 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 09:46:10 <thestringpuller>	Edge cases such as the month April 2013.
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Apr 29 09:49:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 09:56:05 <kakobrekla>	o i got beta access to btc.sx
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Apr 29 09:56:25 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla:
Apr 29 09:56:30 <thestringpuller>	were you at the mpex first dinner?
Apr 29 09:56:36 <thestringpuller>	you were weren't you :P
Apr 29 09:57:10 <kakobrekla>	mebbe
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Apr 29 10:04:26 <mircea_popescu>	btc sex ?
Apr 29 10:04:51 <davout>	kakobrekla: you found how to wake mircea_popescu up
Apr 29 10:05:07 <mircea_popescu>	i was up already!
Apr 29 10:06:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp8f57S9c11qmlqdvo1_1280.jpg << hello. this is dawg.
Apr 29 10:06:26 <davout>	this is dog indeed
Apr 29 10:07:26 <kakobrekla>	heh, i shared my access and apparently their site doesnt work with chrome but it works with ie
Apr 29 10:07:32 <kakobrekla>	kinda funny
Apr 29 10:08:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22799 @ 0.00069808 = 15.9155 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 10:22:35 <kakobrekla>	A maximum of 2 positions may be opened in both directions. This is not recommended unless it is part of a hedging strategy.
Apr 29 10:22:36 <kakobrekla>	omg why
Apr 29 10:22:49 <kakobrekla>	ill just create 10 accounts then wtf
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Apr 29 10:25:34 <mircea_popescu>	lol wut
Apr 29 10:27:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14433 @ 0.0007083 = 10.2229 BTC [+]
Apr 29 10:27:16 <kakobrekla>	this wont go far or end well
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Apr 29 10:35:41 <Chaang-Noi>	good wine is good....
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Apr 29 10:55:17 <mircea_popescu>	Even after seven years of nonstop media hype, only 16 percent of Internet users tweet, the same as the percentage of 14-49-year-olds who have genital herpes. The difference being that the latter are not proud of their affliction, while the former never shut up about theirs.
Apr 29 10:55:47 <kakobrekla>	so
Apr 29 10:55:56 <kakobrekla>	gential herpes is more successful than twitter
Apr 29 10:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7798 = 3.5596 BTC [+]
Apr 29 10:57:03 <lippoper1>	and genital herpes has no advertisements
Apr 29 10:57:30 <orkaa>	should I safely assume that no one on twitter has genital herpes?
Apr 29 10:57:37 <orkaa>	that would be liberating to hear
Apr 29 10:57:38 <orkaa>	haha
Apr 29 10:57:57 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 29 10:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188516.0;all this shit is so utterly funny...
Apr 29 11:00:04 <DiabloD3>	mircea_popescu: moooooo
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Apr 29 11:00:34 <DiabloD3>	wait I wonder if Im on that list
Apr 29 11:00:46 <DiabloD3>	seeing as I am an independent analyst for the bitcoin community
Apr 29 11:01:19 <mircea_popescu>	depends if you vote with the scammy Luke-Jr fuckwit.
Apr 29 11:01:27 <DiabloD3>	well the thing is
Apr 29 11:01:30 <mircea_popescu>	and incidentally, i have no idea how i forgot this one
Apr 29 11:01:30 <DiabloD3>	even if Im not on that list
Apr 29 11:01:32 <DiabloD3>	people still email me
Apr 29 11:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify mircea_popescu
Apr 29 11:01:44 <gribble>	Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-ar;#bitcoin-otc-africa;#bitcoin-otc-bans;#bitcoin-dev;#gribble
Apr 29 11:01:58 <DiabloD3>	seriously, like, Ive gotten emails from people from a dozen major sites over the last month
Apr 29 11:02:04 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Apr 29 11:02:04 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Apr 29 11:02:06 <DiabloD3>	trying to clarify points for upcoming bitcoin stories
Apr 29 11:02:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5ea2c50bc98b76e6ca36337ca6830abc919267f94dd8780773123bda
Apr 29 11:02:36 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Apr 29 11:02:59 <DiabloD3>	er
Apr 29 11:03:14 <DiabloD3>	nanotube: add #bitcoin-assets to that list of authentication channels
Apr 29 11:03:35 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate Luke-Jr -1 Most recently, lied about BFL delivery (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165500.0;all). Old history of being untrustworthy.
Apr 29 11:03:36 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Luke-Jr has changed from 1 to -1.
Apr 29 11:03:46 <DiabloD3>	you know what
Apr 29 11:03:48 <DiabloD3>	Im going to do that too
Apr 29 11:03:50 <DiabloD3>	Im tired of his shit
Apr 29 11:03:57 <DiabloD3>	mircea_popescu: you know what that cunt did recently?
Apr 29 11:04:02 <DiabloD3>	he +q'ed me in #-mining
Apr 29 11:04:10 <DiabloD3>	because I was telling the truth about BFL when someone asked me
Apr 29 11:04:18 <mircea_popescu>	lol ok
Apr 29 11:04:47 <mircea_popescu>	i'm all for it, the bfl/gigavps/lukeetc troop wish to be publicly humiliated,
Apr 29 11:04:54 <mircea_popescu>	there's plenty of public humiliation to drown them in.
Apr 29 11:05:05 <DiabloD3>	I dont even care if they ship anymore
Apr 29 11:05:07 <DiabloD3>	it no longer matters
Apr 29 11:05:17 <mircea_popescu>	the only thing people fail to graps in time is that i am not done when they can't take it anymore,
Apr 29 11:05:22 <DiabloD3>	asicminer is in the process of dealing with their 200TH batch
Apr 29 11:05:23 <mircea_popescu>	i;'m done when i'm done. so...
Apr 29 11:05:45 <DiabloD3>	the 200TH will be sold, shipped, and mining by the time BFL starts shipping en masse
Apr 29 11:05:54 <error4733>	Diablo u rly want some blade ?
Apr 29 11:06:00 <DiabloD3>	error4733: Im considering it
Apr 29 11:06:07 <DiabloD3>	the prices went nutty again
Apr 29 11:06:14 <error4733>	way way overpriced no ?
Apr 29 11:06:27 <DiabloD3>	I think I may just wait for the next round
Apr 29 11:06:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3001 @ 0.00070612 = 2.1191 BTC [-]
Apr 29 11:06:30 <PsychoticBoy>	WAY overpriced
Apr 29 11:06:38 <Luke-Jr>	;;rate mircea_popescu -2 Delusional troll. I wouldn't trust him with a penny.
Apr 29 11:06:39 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from -2 to -2.
Apr 29 11:06:48 <DiabloD3>	;;eauth
Apr 29 11:06:49 <gribble>	(eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
Apr 29 11:06:52 <mircea_popescu>	Luke-Jr get a penny one day, maybe that'll matter.
Apr 29 11:06:53 <DiabloD3>	;;eauth Diablo-D3
Apr 29 11:06:54 <gribble>	Request successful for user Diablo-D3, hostmask DiabloD3!~diablo@pool-70-16-101-85.port.east.myfairpoint.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/85C235C280C197A4
Apr 29 11:06:58 *	Scrat grabs popcorn
Apr 29 11:07:01 <PsychoticBoy>	If I can get it for 25 btc I might take a lot
Apr 29 11:07:30 <error4733>	75 btc for first #, expect 45/55 for this one
Apr 29 11:07:33 <lippoper1>	Luke-Jr, is that the guy calling litecoin 51% attacked?
Apr 29 11:07:46 <mircea_popescu>	lippoper1 he's the guy running the shady pool.
Apr 29 11:07:59 <mircea_popescu>	or w/e, sold it after driving it into the ground/gave it away/we.
Apr 29 11:08:04 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: ?
Apr 29 11:08:24 <DiabloD3>	;;everify
Apr 29 11:08:25 <gribble>	(everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
Apr 29 11:08:29 <DiabloD3>	;;everify Diablo-D3
Apr 29 11:08:30 <gribble>	Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again.
Apr 29 11:08:34 <DiabloD3>	bah.
Apr 29 11:08:36 <PsychoticBoy>	lols
Apr 29 11:08:39 <Scrat>	you already authed
Apr 29 11:08:48 <DiabloD3>	Im already authed so I dont give a fuck.
Apr 29 11:08:51 <PsychoticBoy>	++ident Diablo?d3
Apr 29 11:08:57 <DiabloD3>	I just wonder how mp did that
Apr 29 11:09:04 <PsychoticBoy>	;;ident Diablo-D3\
Apr 29 11:09:05 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Apr 29 11:09:07 <PsychoticBoy>	damn
Apr 29 11:09:16 <PsychoticBoy>	;;ident Diablo-D3
Apr 29 11:09:16 <gribble>	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
Apr 29 11:09:26 <mircea_popescu>	DiabloD3 so read the scrollback neh
Apr 29 11:09:30 <PsychoticBoy>	;;ident DiabloD3
Apr 29 11:09:31 <gribble>	Nick 'DiabloD3', with hostmask 'DiabloD3!~diablo@pool-70-16-101-85.port.east.myfairpoint.net', is identified as user Diablo-D3, with GPG key id 85C235C280C197A4, key fingerprint 16D15E73E75E4BF688E4F2A685C235C280C197A4, and bitcoin address None
Apr 29 11:09:34 <PsychoticBoy>	hehe
Apr 29 11:09:34 <lippoper1>	poor Luke-Jr
Apr 29 11:09:44 <DiabloD3>	oh right Im missing the -
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Apr 29 11:09:50 <lippoper1>	Litecoin 51% attack with fpga's
Apr 29 11:09:51 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Apr 29 11:10:09 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: I know about that, what about it?
Apr 29 11:10:36 <lippoper1>	you're the one starting that thread, what do you know about it? or where can i read up on it?
Apr 29 11:10:54 <Diablo-D3>	;;rate Luke-Jr -10 Known troll.
Apr 29 11:10:55 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user Luke-Jr has been recorded.
Apr 29 11:11:02 <Diablo-D3>	-10 is as far as it goes, right?
Apr 29 11:11:06 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 29 11:11:07 <lippoper1>	i said poor Luke-Jr, cause mircea said you lost your pool or something
Apr 29 11:11:09 <kakobrekla>	-9000
Apr 29 11:11:09 <mircea_popescu>	is he even positive anymore ?
Apr 29 11:11:16 <mircea_popescu>	;;gettrust Luke-Jr
Apr 29 11:11:17 <gribble>	Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Luke-Jr: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 19 via 10 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Luke-Jr
Apr 29 11:11:29 <kakobrekla>	;;getrating Luke-Jr
Apr 29 11:11:29 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask Luke-Jr!~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:222:4dff:fe50:4c49 . User luke-jr, rated since Sat Feb  5 10:37:04 2011. Cumulative rating 12, from 67 total ratings. Received ratings: 53 positive, 14 negative. Sent ratings: 49 positive, 26 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=luke-jr
Apr 29 11:11:36 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: not at all, it's running great; I just don't have time for it, so I passed it on
Apr 29 11:11:56 <Diablo-D3>	;;getrating Diablo-D3
Apr 29 11:11:57 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask Diablo-D3!~diablo@pool-70-16-101-85.port.east.myfairpoint.net . User Diablo-D3, rated since Mon Apr 25 11:54:20 2011. Cumulative rating 10, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 7 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 5 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Diablo-D3
Apr 29 11:11:57 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: I didn't start that thread..
Apr 29 11:12:10 <lippoper1>	can you point me to it?
Apr 29 11:12:20 <Luke-Jr>	no, I didn't know it existed until you said something lol
Apr 29 11:12:20 <Diablo-D3>	lol luke never fixed that lie
Apr 29 11:12:37 <lippoper1>	lol
Apr 29 11:12:38 <Diablo-D3>	WTF
Apr 29 11:12:45 <Diablo-D3>	who runs otc?
Apr 29 11:12:54 <Diablo-D3>	because lol supa thinks I can ban people on bitcointalk
Apr 29 11:13:10 <Scrat>	nanotube, and he won't remove ratings
Apr 29 11:13:14 <PsychoticBoy>	;;ident PsychoticBoy
Apr 29 11:13:14 <gribble>	Nick 'PsychoticBoy', with hostmask 'PsychoticBoy!~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy', is identified as user PsychoticBoy, with GPG key id 06DC71AFE4DAC520, key fingerprint 9E476C16F877E988110787BC06DC71AFE4DAC520, and bitcoin address None
Apr 29 11:13:36 <Diablo-D3>	nanotube: remove the ratings from luke and supa.
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Apr 29 11:13:44 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Apr 29 11:13:50 <mircea_popescu>	lmao why ?
Apr 29 11:13:55 <mircea_popescu>	it's a graph dude, not a sum.
Apr 29 11:13:55 <Scrat>	he won't and he never has. it's against his policy
Apr 29 11:13:56 <PsychoticBoy>	;;getrating PsychoticBoy
Apr 29 11:13:57 <gribble>	Currently authenticated from hostmask PsychoticBoy!~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy . User PsychoticBoy, rated since Tue May  1 12:39:15 2012. Cumulative rating 11, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=PsychoticBoy
Apr 29 11:14:48 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: remove the ratings yourself
Apr 29 11:14:53 <Luke-Jr>	your ratings are the lies
Apr 29 11:15:22 <Diablo-D3>	really? you +q'ed me in mining because I told the truth about BFL being a scam
Apr 29 11:15:25 <Luke-Jr>	well, supa's ratings are probably lies too, but not my concern
Apr 29 11:15:32 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: because you lie
Apr 29 11:15:36 <Luke-Jr>	BFL isn't a scam at all
Apr 29 11:15:36 <Diablo-D3>	how did I lie?
Apr 29 11:15:39 <Diablo-D3>	did BFL ship? no.
Apr 29 11:15:45 <Diablo-D3>	even if they ship now, its too late
Apr 29 11:15:52 <Diablo-D3>	they cant undo the fact they're a scam
Apr 29 11:15:58 <Diablo-D3>	they can ship thousands of TH, and its too late
Apr 29 11:16:04 <ThickAsThieves>	articles say theyve shipped 40 or so units
Apr 29 11:16:04 <Luke-Jr>	yes
Apr 29 11:16:06 <Luke-Jr>	they did ship
Apr 29 11:16:09 <mircea_popescu>	that's quite besides the point anyway. bitcoin mining isd about mining.
Apr 29 11:16:13 <ThickAsThieves>	whatever thats worth
Apr 29 11:16:15 <Luke-Jr>	and they never were a scam
Apr 29 11:16:17 <mircea_popescu>	whether he's an idiot or not, Diablo-D3 still is part of bitcoin mining.
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Apr 29 11:16:30 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: doesn't give him the right to slander others
Apr 29 11:16:46 <Luke-Jr>	I already told Diablo-D3 I'd remove the +q if he promised to stop that
Apr 29 11:16:47 <Diablo-D3>	how is it slander? I asked BFL repeatedly to prove there was development going on
Apr 29 11:16:49 <mircea_popescu>	no, you don't have the "right" to come up with offences.
Apr 29 11:16:53 <ThickAsThieves>	what do youc all sitting on people's money for a year, if not a scam?
Apr 29 11:16:53 <Diablo-D3>	they never even answered
Apr 29 11:16:59 <mircea_popescu>	whoever perceives they were "Slandered" is welcome to go to the courts.
Apr 29 11:17:00 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: BFL has no obligation to prove anything to you
Apr 29 11:17:07 <mircea_popescu>	that's where slander has a meaning. here, it's meaningless.
Apr 29 11:17:11 <Diablo-D3>	if BFL wants the community's money yes they fucking do
Apr 29 11:17:22 <Diablo-D3>	as a founding member of this community, I have a fucking right to ask the questions.
Apr 29 11:17:26 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: you don't represent the community
Apr 29 11:17:28 <Luke-Jr>	LOL
Apr 29 11:17:31 <Luke-Jr>	troll
Apr 29 11:17:33 <mircea_popescu>	this is a little ridiculous, we're arguing with some random lunatic who got a sandwich
Apr 29 11:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	so now he's going to what, spend his worthless time barking.
Apr 29 11:17:42 <mircea_popescu>	herp.
Apr 29 11:17:44 <ThickAsThieves>	but it's almost lunch time
Apr 29 11:17:57 <Diablo-D3>	see, this is why I put people on ignore
Apr 29 11:17:57 <lippoper1>	BFL are scam artists
Apr 29 11:18:02 <ThickAsThieves>	should be here in 2 weeks TM
Apr 29 11:18:05 <Diablo-D3>	Im just tired of this shit
Apr 29 11:18:10 <lippoper1>	they're jalapenos are nothing more than 6 fpgas running together
Apr 29 11:18:12 <Scrat>	this is so good, waiting for tiberiusiv to join in
Apr 29 11:18:19 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: 6 FPGAs don't use 30 W
Apr 29 11:18:22 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 he'd be on my ignore but normally he has the sense to stfu here so i never bothered.
Apr 29 11:18:26 <kakobrekla>	Diablo-D3 whats the point, its the end of the world in 2016 isnt it so?
Apr 29 11:18:33 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla no in 2012.
Apr 29 11:18:36 <Diablo-D3>	kakobrekla: I was kidding about that.
Apr 29 11:18:47 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: yeah, but everyone forgets to add 3.5 years on top of that
Apr 29 11:18:48 <ThickAsThieves>	end of the world = reward halving
Apr 29 11:18:50 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: also, my ASIC runs at 28 Gh/s, explain that
Apr 29 11:18:58 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: the reign of satan will be 3.5 years, as long as jesus's ministry
Apr 29 11:18:58 <lippoper1>	let me see it
Apr 29 11:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	to quote missy-pr, This thread is epic. Calling all neckbeards (jgarzick, gmaxwell, puke-jr &co): YOU FAIL
Apr 29 11:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	This is because you suck. You're not good enough. The only option you have is exactly how much public humiliation comes with your failure.
Apr 29 11:19:17 <mircea_popescu>	Knock yourselves out.
Apr 29 11:19:19 <lippoper1>	i want a youtube video of the whole thing running, no hidden cables, no hidden outlets
Apr 29 11:19:35 <lippoper1>	no cables that run off the field of view
Apr 29 11:19:43 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: hows this, pay me a thousand BTC, Ill just create a better coin
Apr 29 11:19:51 <mircea_popescu>	eh but why.
Apr 29 11:19:58 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: too bad, I don't have the time to get anywhere near that clean
Apr 29 11:20:00 <kakobrekla>	hey i got beard on my neck
Apr 29 11:20:05 <mircea_popescu>	this one is fine. so various idiots inexplicably think they matter in the contexrt. so ?
Apr 29 11:20:05 <lippoper1>	hahaha
Apr 29 11:20:05 <ThickAsThieves>	he wants BTC to create non-btc, hrm
Apr 29 11:20:06 <Diablo-D3>	because BFL morons wont be able to mine on it.
Apr 29 11:20:17 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu has more BTC than dollars.
Apr 29 11:20:24 <lippoper1>	i just want to see a non edited video of the thing in action
Apr 29 11:20:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm skeptical that mp doesnt have plenty fiat to match
Apr 29 11:20:39 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: there's plenty of those on the web now
Apr 29 11:20:42 <lippoper1>	and you follow the cables, haven't seen that in any of the 'unboxing' and whatnot videos
Apr 29 11:20:53 <lippoper1>	you went to BFL right?
Apr 29 11:20:59 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: enmaku even has a teardown video
Apr 29 11:21:03 <lippoper1>	in exchange they gave you an ASIC?
Apr 29 11:21:09 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: then by all means, post the fucking URL.
Apr 29 11:21:17 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: I bought my ASICs.
Apr 29 11:21:41 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: screw you, learn to google
Apr 29 11:21:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.199199 BTC [-]
Apr 29 11:21:42 <lippoper1>	sure, but yet you don't have any proof of it
Apr 29 11:21:46 <ThickAsThieves>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6mmTRheUzg   WARNING: neckbeard
Apr 29 11:21:50 <lippoper1>	wtf bud
Apr 29 11:21:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
Apr 29 11:21:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1992 BTC [+]
Apr 29 11:21:57 <Diablo-D3>	Luke-Jr: but you're the one claiming it exists
Apr 29 11:22:09 <Luke-Jr>	Diablo-D3: it does. proving it to you is not my problem.
Apr 29 11:22:14 <Diablo-D3>	bwhahaha
Apr 29 11:22:17 <lippoper1>	hahahaha
Apr 29 11:22:21 <Diablo-D3>	Nice Christian attitude there, bud.
Apr 29 11:22:22 <Luke-Jr>	I couldn't care less if you believe it or not.
Apr 29 11:22:29 <lippoper1>	I have a Litecoin ASIC miner
Apr 29 11:22:38 <lippoper1>	yeah it does 28GH/s
Apr 29 11:22:39 <Diablo-D3>	dude, I have a DiabloCoin ASIC miner
Apr 29 11:22:44 <Diablo-D3>	and I havent even written DiabloCoin yet
Apr 29 11:22:52 <lippoper1>	oh you don't believe me, that's too bad, it's not my burden to provide you proof
Apr 29 11:22:56 <Diablo-D3>	its a sad ASIC :<
Apr 29 11:23:07 <ThickAsThieves>	Micon trusts this video
Apr 29 11:23:16 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: yep, I don't believe you. too bad.
Apr 29 11:23:20 <Diablo-D3>	you know what, it is lunch time
Apr 29 11:23:31 <lippoper1>	fine Luke-Jr., I don't have to prove it to you
Apr 29 11:23:37 <Luke-Jr>	nope, you don't.
Apr 29 11:23:46 <Luke-Jr>	I'll just go on not believing you.
Apr 29 11:23:48 <ThickAsThieves>	the youtube i posted is an unboxing btw
Apr 29 11:23:49 <lippoper1>	but don't call me a liar or a scam artist for taking everyone's money for it
Apr 29 11:24:04 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: you know whats funny?
Apr 29 11:24:25 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: the difference is, the proof of BFL's ASICs exists. Diablo-D3 is just too lazy to look in obvious places for it
Apr 29 11:24:28 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: I wrote DiabloMiner, con ported it to C as cgminer, then Luke-Jr forked it because con didnt want to merge his shitty patches
Apr 29 11:24:37 <lippoper1>	I've looked at the so called proof
Apr 29 11:24:43 <Luke-Jr>	lol, you wish Diablo-D3
Apr 29 11:24:43 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: in other words, Luke-Jr's only fame relies on code I wrote.
Apr 29 11:24:51 <lippoper1>	i don't believe it, because they have hidden cables running behind the fucking laptop
Apr 29 11:25:05 <mircea_popescu>	ya well. the hope is that after another decade or so of getting people coffee he learns to code.
Apr 29 11:25:15 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: that will probably never happen
Apr 29 11:25:15 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: fine, then don't believe it. your problem, not mine.
Apr 29 11:25:19 <mircea_popescu>	supposedly this happens
Apr 29 11:25:22 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: really, the best programmers in the world all started young
Apr 29 11:25:24 <lippoper1>	either wya, it doesn't bother me one bit
Apr 29 11:25:24 <kakobrekla>	am i still a neckbard if i shave, just like you can be a chinese and a nigger.
Apr 29 11:25:27 <Diablo-D3>	its too late for him
Apr 29 11:25:30 <Diablo-D3>	hes like, what, 40?
Apr 29 11:25:40 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla the neckbeard is inside not outside
Apr 29 11:25:44 <Luke-Jr>	I'm 28, and have been programming since 6 or 7
Apr 29 11:26:05 <Diablo-D3>	so why the fuck do you still suck at it?
Apr 29 11:26:11 <mircea_popescu>	how long since you've not been taking your pills would be more interesting.
Apr 29 11:26:20 <ezdiy>	mp, didnt know you host a talkshow for neckbeards :(
Apr 29 11:26:24 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: ask luke about the catholic church
Apr 29 11:26:28 *	guruvan lols
Apr 29 11:26:29 <Luke-Jr>	mircea_popescu: only delusional people such as yourself have pills
Apr 29 11:26:31 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy anything to survive in this tough makret
Apr 29 11:26:42 <Diablo-D3>	<luke> I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE, BUT WHAT AM I
Apr 29 11:26:56 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 the neckbeard argument university.
Apr 29 11:27:09 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: he must have a fucking phd in that
Apr 29 11:27:55 <Scrat>	why did you stop?
Apr 29 11:28:30 <lippoper1>	ok, Diablo-D3, since you're amazing and all, can we start DiabloCoin?
Apr 29 11:28:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000651 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
Apr 29 11:28:38 <mircea_popescu>	Scrat out of mountain dew.
Apr 29 11:28:39 <lippoper1>	make it SHA-512 or something
Apr 29 11:28:45 <Chaang-Noi>	sd3 not even 50
Apr 29 11:28:47 <Diablo-D3>	lippoper1: no, probably Ill use scrypt correctly
Apr 29 11:28:52 <Chaang-Noi>	d3 not even 50 lol
Apr 29 11:29:14 <Scrat>	mircea_popescu: don't think there are any rednecks here
Apr 29 11:29:18 <Diablo-D3>	proof litecoin sucks dick: you can mine it on gpus.
Apr 29 11:29:43 <Scrat>	lippoper1: I've been saying this for months... someone with a clue needs to start an altcoin
Apr 29 11:29:56 <Scrat>	might as well be diablocoin
Apr 29 11:30:15 <Diablo-D3>	Scrat: Im seriously considering it
Apr 29 11:30:22 <Diablo-D3>	Im just not sure I want to sink that much time into it
Apr 29 11:30:30 <ThickAsThieves>	jalepeno teardown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciwfCqP8AiU
Apr 29 11:30:34 <kakobrekla>	yeah the bitcoin is too mainstream
Apr 29 11:30:40 <ThickAsThieves>	warning more neckbeard
Apr 29 11:30:41 <kakobrekla>	must get out.
Apr 29 11:31:04 <lippoper1>	yeah
Apr 29 11:31:07 <lippoper1>	we need a better altcoin
Apr 29 11:31:08 <ThickAsThieves>	neckbeard jumped from big guy to new guy
Apr 29 11:31:17 <kakobrekla>	looool
Apr 29 11:31:21 <Diablo-D3>	so Im thinking possibly rust
Apr 29 11:31:29 <Diablo-D3>	I really want to try it out
Apr 29 11:31:33 <lippoper1>	scrypt is cool but can't we just mine that with GPUs now?
Apr 29 11:31:44 <Diablo-D3>	lippoper1: no, litecoin uses scrypt wrong
Apr 29 11:31:49 <Diablo-D3>	which is very dangerous
Apr 29 11:31:59 <lippoper1>	NVC is the same way
Apr 29 11:32:02 <lippoper1>	can be gpu mined
Apr 29 11:32:05 <lippoper1>	using scrypt
Apr 29 11:32:08 <Diablo-D3>	I thought nvc was sha256?
Apr 29 11:32:34 <Diablo-D3>	but yeah, I want to see a return of cpu mining
Apr 29 11:32:34 <lippoper1>	NovaCoin       			scrypt
Apr 29 11:32:49 <Diablo-D3>	make gpus, fpgas, and asics impossible for the long term
Apr 29 11:33:03 <kakobrekla>	BFL Bitcoin ASIC Teardown, related: How to make caramel
Apr 29 11:33:08 <kakobrekla>	gotta love youtube
Apr 29 11:33:26 <ezdiy>	Diablo-D3: timekoin >:)
Apr 29 11:33:37 <Diablo-D3>	ezdiy: but only the Doctor would have a use for that
Apr 29 11:33:42 <ezdiy>	hehe
Apr 29 11:33:51 <ezdiy>	17:32 < Diablo-D3> make gpus, fpgas, and asics impossible for the long term
Apr 29 11:33:54 <ezdiy>	fills the bill tho
Apr 29 11:34:00 <ThickAsThieves>	most important thing about a new coin is a good name
Apr 29 11:34:03 <Luke-Jr>	lippoper1: you should use my altcoin
Apr 29 11:34:09 <Diablo-D3>	Im probably going to name it after a planet
Apr 29 11:34:11 <imsaguy>	ThickAsThieves: newcoin isn't taken yet
Apr 29 11:34:16 <Diablo-D3>	probably something lol like MarsCoin
Apr 29 11:34:18 <Chaang-Noi>	luke you have an alt coin?
Apr 29 11:34:19 <BTCOxygen>	Luke-Jr: Whats the name of your altcoin?
Apr 29 11:34:24 <imsaguy>	trollcoin?
Apr 29 11:34:30 <Diablo-D3>	software written explicitly for upcoming mars colonization missions
Apr 29 11:34:35 <ThickAsThieves>	newcoin is okay
Apr 29 11:34:36 <ezdiy>	Luke-Jr uses religious names
Apr 29 11:34:37 <ezdiy>	so um
Apr 29 11:34:39 <ThickAsThieves>	lacks sex
Apr 29 11:34:42 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: yep, the very first one ever
Apr 29 11:34:44 <Diablo-D3>	ezdiy: I should too
Apr 29 11:34:46 <Diablo-D3>	JESUSCOIN
Apr 29 11:34:48 <imsaguy>	newsexcoin
Apr 29 11:34:50 <Diablo-D3>	NOW WITH EXTRA CROSS
Apr 29 11:34:52 <Luke-Jr>	Chaang-Noi: Tonal bitcoin
Apr 29 11:34:58 <Chaang-Noi>	oh right
Apr 29 11:35:02 <BTCOxygen>	Luke-Jr: lol
Apr 29 11:35:11 <Diablo-D3>	oh and btw
Apr 29 11:35:16 <Diablo-D3>	theres one change Im making
Apr 29 11:35:26 <Diablo-D3>	rewards will be low and never decrease
Apr 29 11:35:30 <ThickAsThieves>	decepticoin
Apr 29 11:35:36 <imsaguy>	aww, cute:
Apr 29 11:35:37 <imsaguy>	[2013/04/29 10:07:45] <+gribble> Rating change | Old rating 1 | New rating: luke-jr > -1 > diablo-d3 | I advanced him 8 BTC in exchange for 16 BTC worth of shares in the DMC IPO. But in conversation lately, he's been exceedingly dishonest, so I dunno..
Apr 29 11:35:37 <imsaguy>	[2013/04/29 10:10:56] <+gribble> New rating | Diablo-D3 > -10 > Luke-Jr | Known troll.
Apr 29 11:35:46 <lippoper1>	hahaha
Apr 29 11:35:51 <Diablo-D3>	imsaguy: yeah, and luke still owns those DMC shares too
Apr 29 11:35:58 <ThickAsThieves>	autocoin
Apr 29 11:36:04 <Diablo-D3>	primecoin
Apr 29 11:36:11 <lippoper1>	name: GigaCoin
Apr 29 11:36:15 <Diablo-D3>	actually, lets just call it peniscoin
Apr 29 11:36:20 <ThickAsThieves>	metacoin
Apr 29 11:36:26 <Diablo-D3>	if we're going to troll, might as well push it up to 11
Apr 29 11:36:27 <lippoper1>	BetaCoin
Apr 29 11:36:37 <BTCOxygen>	Lukecoin
Apr 29 11:36:43 <Diablo-D3>	but yeah, we clearly need a silver to go with bitcoin's gold
Apr 29 11:36:45 <lippoper1>	LipCoin
Apr 29 11:36:51 <BTCOxygen>	Diablo-D3: Litecoin
Apr 29 11:36:58 <Diablo-D3>	litecoin is largely a failure
Apr 29 11:37:05 <Diablo-D3>	it never took off and it has no value
Apr 29 11:37:07 <lippoper1>	And we definitely need a Baryllium to the silver and gold coins
Apr 29 11:37:07 <Uglux>	wagnercoin :P
Apr 29 11:37:11 <ezdiy>	i think you need decent following to start a coin, so basically only contenders are RpiCoin and MPCoin
Apr 29 11:37:16 <ThickAsThieves>	cybercoin
Apr 29 11:37:26 <lippoper1>	litecoin is crap
Apr 29 11:37:28 <Diablo-D3>	do we even need coin in the name?
Apr 29 11:37:32 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 29 11:37:33 <ThickAsThieves>	but
Apr 29 11:37:34 <lippoper1>	it's failing miserably right now
Apr 29 11:37:36 <Diablo-D3>	just call it Saturn
Apr 29 11:37:42 <lippoper1>	No
Apr 29 11:37:45 <ThickAsThieves>	it might help in borrowing from bitcoins brand
Apr 29 11:37:45 <lippoper1>	Call it pluto
Apr 29 11:37:48 <Diablo-D3>	each "coin" is a ring.
Apr 29 11:37:57 <Diablo-D3>	OH LOOK WHAT I DID THAR
Apr 29 11:38:05 <Diablo-D3>	Im a bad bad person.
Apr 29 11:38:30 <ThickAsThieves>	hashlings
Apr 29 11:38:35 <Diablo-D3>	fucking korea
Apr 29 11:39:02 <ThickAsThieves>	cryptobits
Apr 29 11:39:10 <ThickAsThieves>	taste great with milk!
Apr 29 11:39:25 <Diablo-D3>	cereal killer.
Apr 29 11:39:41 <ThickAsThieves>	digigold
Apr 29 11:40:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11302 @ 0.00068056 = 7.6917 BTC [-]
Apr 29 11:40:10 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enZ4P7Azxys
Apr 29 11:40:26 <ThickAsThieves>	hehe
Apr 29 11:41:05 <ThickAsThieves>	it's even in stereo
Apr 29 11:41:07 <ThickAsThieves>	fancy
Apr 29 11:41:43 <Diablo-D3>	that guy has lots of nifty shit
Apr 29 11:41:51 <Diablo-D3>	doom e1m1 is good too
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Apr 29 11:42:28 <Diablo-D3>	so Im thinking
Apr 29 11:42:41 <Diablo-D3>	constant inflation, but the % of inflation decreases over time
Apr 29 11:43:26 <lippoper1>	ALTERA
Apr 29 11:43:34 <Diablo-D3>	use of network coding techniques to decrease the time of data dissemination
Apr 29 11:43:53 <lippoper1>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ciwfCqP8AiU#t=597s
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Apr 29 11:47:46 <KRS1>	Its a scam
Apr 29 11:47:57 <Diablo-D3>	I think we already covered that
Apr 29 11:47:59 <lippoper1>	yeah
Apr 29 11:48:03 <lippoper1>	it's the only unit in the wild
Apr 29 11:48:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2785 BTC [+]
Apr 29 11:48:39 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Apr 29 11:48:40 <Diablo-D3>	its lunch time
Apr 29 11:48:50 <Diablo-D3>	not sure what I want to eat
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Apr 29 11:50:17 <imsaguy>	cat
Apr 29 11:50:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2787 BTC [+]
Apr 29 11:50:44 <Diablo-D3>	imsaguy: no, I save eating pussy for dessert.
Apr 29 11:50:44 <imsaguy>	So what happens when bfl finally starts shipping in any sort of recognizable quantity
Apr 29 11:50:53 <imsaguy>	will it kill asicminer?
Apr 29 11:51:01 <imsaguy>	since their tech is newer
Apr 29 11:51:23 <Diablo-D3>	brb xchat is fucking up
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Apr 29 11:52:23 <Uglux>	this is not a tech race (yet) more a delivery time race
Apr 29 11:52:38 <Uglux>	and bfl lost ^^
Apr 29 11:52:39 <Diablo-D3>	[11:50:53] <imsaguy> will it kill asicminer?
Apr 29 11:52:43 <Diablo-D3>	er, how does it kill asicminer?
Apr 29 11:52:52 <Diablo-D3>	asicminer will have 200th in customer's hands before bfl starts shipping en masse
Apr 29 11:53:02 <Diablo-D3>	if anything, BFL might as well just declare bankruptcy right now
Apr 29 11:53:06 <ThickAsThieves>	AM also has a lot of money to play with
Apr 29 11:53:09 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Apr 29 11:53:12 <Diablo-D3>	LOTS of money
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Apr 29 11:53:22 <Diablo-D3>	and they're already working on a next generation process
Apr 29 11:53:23 <Diablo-D3>	er
Apr 29 11:53:28 <Diablo-D3>	I shouldnt have said that.
Apr 29 11:53:35 <Diablo-D3>	friedcat is going to be mad with me now =/
Apr 29 11:53:50 <Uglux>	INSIDER TRADING :>
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Apr 29 11:54:19 <imsaguy>	Well, they'd be stupid to not be working on a next generation process
Apr 29 11:55:01 <lippoper1>	seriously Diablo, you need to make the new altcoin
Apr 29 11:55:09 <Uglux>	will you guys buy alibaba stocks?
Apr 29 11:55:20 <lippoper1>	please put Feathercoin out of its misery
Apr 29 11:55:28 <Diablo-D3>	wtf is feathercoin anyhow
Apr 29 11:55:32 <Diablo-D3>	I keep hearing people talk about that
Apr 29 11:55:43 <lippoper1>	some ahole, made a litecoin clone
Apr 29 11:55:47 <lippoper1>	with 4x the coins
Apr 29 11:55:50 <lippoper1>	that's it
Apr 29 11:56:09 <lippoper1>	there is no improvement or anything else to it.
Apr 29 11:56:25 <Diablo-D3>	what.
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Apr 29 11:56:50 <lippoper1>	yes, that's why i'm serious about you making a serious altcoin
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Apr 29 11:57:12 <lippoper1>	with the support of the community and some actual improvements over what litecoin does now, i think it would take off eventually
Apr 29 11:57:34 <lippoper1>	these clones of litecoin like feathercoin/novacoin are a joke to me
Apr 29 11:59:09 <lippoper1>	butterflylabs support forum golden quote of the day: "at this point I think it's safe to expect my jalapeno could arrive  around the same time as the rapture and the second coming of Christ."
Apr 29 12:00:09 <lippoper1>	http://benhohner.com/feathercoin/
Apr 29 12:00:18 <lippoper1>	http://feathercoin.com/
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Apr 29 12:00:48 <ThickAsThieves>	if you want a good altcoin, you need a good name, minimal pre-mining, GPU mining, and support from at least one decent exchange
Apr 29 12:00:51 <lippoper1>	http://feathercoin.com/about/
Apr 29 12:01:22 <lippoper1>	Exchange: http://cryptonit.net/exchange/ltc/ftc
Apr 29 12:01:29 <Diablo-D3>	lippoper1: you know whats funny? the rapture is not supported by the bible
Apr 29 12:01:32 <jurov>	Luke-Jr: if BFL is real, why no one buys difficulty future anymore?
Apr 29 12:01:36 <ThickAsThieves>	it also wouldnt hurt to ding the confidence of litecoin somehow
Apr 29 12:01:39 <ThickAsThieves>	with your new coin
Apr 29 12:02:50 <ThickAsThieves>	jurov, could also be your pricing
Apr 29 12:03:15 <lippoper1>	hahaha
Apr 29 12:03:33 <jurov>	the prices are below bfl pudits estimations.
Apr 29 12:03:43 <jurov>	or, let's agree about collateral and undercut me, go on
Apr 29 12:04:07 <ThickAsThieves>	i'd be safer posting futures on mpex, no?
Apr 29 12:04:24 <lippoper1>	stupid waiting game
Apr 29 12:04:26 <lippoper1>	;;ticker
Apr 29 12:04:26 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.95000, Best ask: 143.96799, Bid-ask spread: 0.01799, Last trade: 143.96800, 24 hour volume: 65651.97862618, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 140.87244
Apr 29 12:05:08 <jurov>	ThickAsThieves, they are covered only up to 0.14 btc (no one knows for sure, tho)
Apr 29 12:05:34 <jurov>	so, not so much attractive
Apr 29 12:05:41 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm not saying your pricing is unreasonable, so much as priced perfectly above the likely hashrate
Apr 29 12:05:53 <ThickAsThieves>	you do well with your estimations
Apr 29 12:06:06 <Uglux>	lol @ bfl quote
Apr 29 12:06:35 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 29 12:06:39 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233770 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 85 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 11 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10068449.7588 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.19208
Apr 29 12:06:48 <ThickAsThieves>	;;estimate
Apr 29 12:06:50 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 10068449.7588 based on data since last change | 10600052.17 based on data for last three days
Apr 29 12:09:48 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 29 12:09:48 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.80000, Best ask: 143.92220, Bid-ask spread: 0.12220, Last trade: 143.80000, 24 hour volume: 65712.09897859, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 140.88260
Apr 29 12:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Apr 29 12:11:10 <jurov>	http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/04/914-asic-earnings-23-april-2013.html says difficulty can be 40m on June 19
Apr 29 12:11:53 <ThickAsThieves>	unfortunately his predications have rarely worked out
Apr 29 12:11:54 <jurov>	and i'm selling iDiff-E for 26m satoshi only
Apr 29 12:12:12 <ThickAsThieves>	he keeps assuming people will ship ;)
Apr 29 12:13:39 <jurov>	shhhh ThickAsThieves
Apr 29 12:13:45 <jurov>	:)
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Apr 29 12:15:11 <ThickAsThieves>	there will be a about 5 diff changes before the 19th (excluding tomorrow's maybe)
Apr 29 12:15:20 <ThickAsThieves>	even if diff goes up 20% each time
Apr 29 12:15:26 <ThickAsThieves>	you still dont hit 26
Apr 29 12:15:57 <ThickAsThieves>	depends on how many diffs
Apr 29 12:16:07 <ThickAsThieves>	if it actually went up 20%
Apr 29 12:16:12 <ThickAsThieves>	we might get more
Apr 29 12:16:18 <ThickAsThieves>	not gonna bother with the math
Apr 29 12:23:25 <jurov>	yes, i'll prolly update it tomorrow
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Apr 29 12:27:37 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/
Apr 29 12:27:44 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca asciilifeform ^
Apr 29 12:28:08 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: good morning
Apr 29 12:28:31 <mircea_popescu>	heya.
Apr 29 12:28:52 <Chilca>	do not understand what you sent me
Apr 29 12:28:54 <topace>	!ticker h vtx
Apr 29 12:28:56 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.43990000 / 0.467525 / 0.48200000 (144 shares, 67.32360002 BTC), 7D: 0.40001000 / 0.45536846 / 0.49750000 (1346 shares, 612.92594387 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.40162429 / 0.61488800 (6309 shares, 2533.84767053 BTC)
Apr 29 12:29:16 <jurov>	http://trade.plus500.com lists bitcoin now, with 1:4 leverage
Apr 29 12:29:25 <jurov>	hi mircea
Apr 29 12:29:34 <mircea_popescu>	heya
Apr 29 12:29:41 <mircea_popescu>	Chilca i figure it's an article you'll enjoy.
Apr 29 12:29:50 <mircea_popescu>	line above.
Apr 29 12:30:03 <Chilca>	mircea_popescu: Great, will read it now!! thanks for share it.
Apr 29 12:30:32 <mircea_popescu>	jurov remarkable, i see a romanian page.
Apr 29 12:30:39 <mircea_popescu>	what's this like a poker site ?
Apr 29 12:31:03 <jurov>	trying to figure out, did not use it before
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Apr 29 12:31:42 <orkaa>	i see a slovenian page
Apr 29 12:32:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 648 @ 0.00067673 = 0.4385 BTC [-]
Apr 29 12:35:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7799 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:35:02 <jurov>	it's multinational, CFDs trading.
Apr 29 12:35:24 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16019 @ 0.00068914 = 11.0393 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:35:26 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43417 @ 0.0007083 = 30.7523 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:35:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23566 @ 0.00071 = 16.7319 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:36:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.8 = 3.6 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:36:46 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 29 12:36:50 <kakobrekla>	i dont see it
Apr 29 12:36:54 <kakobrekla>	jurov in their interface
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Apr 29 12:36:58 <jurov>	search for it
Apr 29 12:37:26 <kakobrekla>	aha
Apr 29 12:37:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86998 @ 0.00071 = 61.7686 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:37:56 <kakobrekla>	aha
Apr 29 12:38:01 <kakobrekla>	they close the market for 1h
Apr 29 12:40:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071488 = 3.5744 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:40:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6723 @ 0.000715 = 4.8069 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:40:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4353 @ 0.00071588 = 3.1162 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:40:08 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00071598 = 12.6728 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:40:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5546 @ 0.00071609 = 3.9714 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:40:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00071814 = 1.0054 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:40:15 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00072 = 18 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 12:50:07 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33479999 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:51:03 <orkaa>	http://www.trueactivist.com/frackin-reserve-a-fractional-reserve-banking-simulator/
Apr 29 12:51:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.492 = 0.984 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:51:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2769 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 12:52:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00072 = 5.904 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 12:53:43 <ThickAsThieves>	why does mpoe have so much buying and selling action all the time?
Apr 29 12:56:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.277 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:57:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 10 @ 0.36831645 = 3.6832 BTC [+]
Apr 29 12:58:17 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.msg1976963#msg1976963
Apr 29 12:58:18 <kakobrekla>	bbl
Apr 29 12:59:10 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 5 @ 0.49704849 = 2.4852 BTC [+]
Apr 29 13:01:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29479 @ 0.00072 = 21.2249 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 13:04:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 463 @ 0.000651 = 0.3014 BTC [+]
Apr 29 13:05:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 27 @ 0.003 = 0.081 BTC [-]
Apr 29 13:05:30 <PsychoticBoy>	ThickAsThieves> why does mpoe have so much buying and selling action all the time?
Apr 29 13:05:46 <PsychoticBoy>	^^ that is mircea trading ;)
Apr 29 13:06:10 <PsychoticBoy>	prentending there is volume
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Apr 29 13:15:54 <ThickAsThieves>	not sure how that would benefit him
Apr 29 13:16:00 <ThickAsThieves>	it stays in a range
Apr 29 13:16:01 <Diablo-D3>	so
Apr 29 13:16:05 <Diablo-D3>	about an hour until the auction is done
Apr 29 13:16:17 <Diablo-D3>	I still may consider bidding on a single unit
Apr 29 13:16:31 <ThickAsThieves>	lotsa snipes last time, right?
Apr 29 13:17:04 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla lol win.
Apr 29 13:17:28 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: LOTS of snipes last time
Apr 29 13:17:32 <Diablo-D3>	it traveled like 10btc last time
Apr 29 13:17:41 <mircea_popescu>	how much did it close for ?
Apr 29 13:18:04 <ThickAsThieves>	last time, like 74ish each i think
Apr 29 13:18:07 <Diablo-D3>	yeah
Apr 29 13:18:12 <Diablo-D3>	it was above 70 for all of the 10 boards
Apr 29 13:18:22 <mircea_popescu>	" changing your pass w/o the need of need to know the current one" da fuck ?!
Apr 29 13:18:25 <mircea_popescu>	can i change yours ?
Apr 29 13:18:27 <Diablo-D3>	wtf xchat, brb
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Apr 29 13:19:03 <Diablo-D3>	but yeah
Apr 29 13:19:09 <Diablo-D3>	it'll probably clear 50
Apr 29 13:19:14 <Diablo-D3>	I think it might make it into the 60s
Apr 29 13:19:19 <Diablo-D3>	but dunno
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Apr 29 13:20:59 <ThickAsThieves>	i like how he's including a free rack with purchase of 10
Apr 29 13:21:16 <ThickAsThieves>	firedcat was all like OMG when he saw those guys running theirs flat on a table
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Apr 29 13:23:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11254 @ 0.00072 = 8.1029 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 13:24:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 13:26:58 <lippoper1>	link please
Apr 29 13:29:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00072 = 72 BTC [+]
Apr 29 13:29:38 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: actually, that was because of me
Apr 29 13:29:55 <Diablo-D3>	I said in the thread I'd consider continued bidding if I get a rack if I bid on 10
Apr 29 13:30:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Apr 29 13:30:04 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Apr 29 13:31:08 <Diablo-D3>	but prices are just way beyond what Im willing to bid on
Apr 29 13:31:09 <error4733>	ok take those $70k but give me a rack
Apr 29 13:31:11 <error4733>	seems legit
Apr 29 13:31:13 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 29 13:31:14 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.27000, Best ask: 141.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 141.27000, 24 hour volume: 68300.17959196, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 141.22923
Apr 29 13:31:29 <mircea_popescu>	$depth O.USD.C141T
Apr 29 13:31:30 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Apr 29 13:31:42 <mircea_popescu>	$depth O.USD.C140T
Apr 29 13:31:43 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: O.USD.C140T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.16376342', '1000 @ 0.16376342', '1000 @ 0.16376342']
Apr 29 13:31:44 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.33695048', '1000 @ 0.33695048', '1000 @ 0.33695048']
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Apr 29 13:33:50 <ThickAsThieves>	how did this happen: [08:58] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 200 @ 0.14768654 = 29.5373 BTC [-]
Apr 29 13:34:38 <lippoper1>	Diablo what auction, what's for sale?
Apr 29 13:34:39 <mircea_popescu>	shorting i guess
Apr 29 13:34:51 <lippoper1>	a true asic miner?
Apr 29 13:34:58 <Diablo-D3>	yes
Apr 29 13:35:03 <Diablo-D3>	asicminer is selling more blades
Apr 29 13:35:27 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189248
Apr 29 13:37:26 <mircea_popescu>	Bang With Friends, the popular app that helps facilitate one-night stands with your Facebook friends, is reportedly raising a ~$1 million seed round, according to Business Insider.
Apr 29 13:37:27 <mircea_popescu>	sigh.
Apr 29 13:38:19 <lippoper1>	7. Is the blades compatible with P2Pool?
Apr 29 13:38:19 <lippoper1>	Our blades implements only the diff 1 getwork protocol. So p2pool is possible, but should be with proxies.
Apr 29 13:38:32 <lippoper1>	Wtf, does that mean it doesn't support stratum ;-)
Apr 29 13:40:36 <mircea_popescu>	yup
Apr 29 13:41:11 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/jonmatonis/status/328926763809918977
Apr 29 13:41:12 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
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Apr 29 13:43:04 <lippoper1>	wow
Apr 29 13:43:10 <ThickAsThieves>	nice
Apr 29 13:43:13 <lippoper1>	cheapest blade available is at 41.5/42
Apr 29 13:43:15 <lippoper1>	btc
Apr 29 13:43:17 <lippoper1>	each
Apr 29 13:43:23 <lippoper1>	and they only put out 5gh/s
Apr 29 13:43:25 <lippoper1>	each
Apr 29 13:43:50 <lippoper1>	$5,880.00 a blade cheapest
Apr 29 13:43:53 <lippoper1>	buahahaha
Apr 29 13:43:58 <mircea_popescu>	wait, wasn't it 10ghs ?
Apr 29 13:44:01 <lippoper1>	that's like a lifetime to break even
Apr 29 13:44:26 <topace>	yea each blade is 10gh
Apr 29 13:44:28 <topace>	not 5
Apr 29 13:44:31 <lippoper1>	ohhh
Apr 29 13:45:05 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163741.msg1974451#msg1974451 girl telling noob "you are the problem with bitcoin". priceless.
Apr 29 13:45:39 <lippoper1>	wow
Apr 29 13:45:53 <lippoper1>	only 3 months to pay off if network difficulty remained the same
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Apr 29 13:48:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4554 = 2.277 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 13:49:22 <ll>	;;genrate 10000
Apr 29 13:49:24 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
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Apr 29 13:51:10 <lippoper1>	;;calc 0.0233493949273 * 140.56
Apr 29 13:51:10 <gribble>	3.28199095098
Apr 29 13:51:19 <lippoper1>	per hour
Apr 29 13:51:41 <ThickAsThieves>	if they are lucky each blade will do 25btc in 2mos
Apr 29 13:51:57 <mircea_popescu>	if they are really lucky diff drops
Apr 29 13:52:52 <ThickAsThieves>	after 2mos, things will probly get pretty ugly
Apr 29 13:53:02 <ll>	;;estimate
Apr 29 13:53:03 <error4733>	The next auction's most probably on USB stick miners, in a week. (the 300mhz type.  Tongue)
Apr 29 13:53:03 <error4733>	Be rest assured that the blades aren't coming again so soon.  Smiley
Apr 29 13:53:03 <gribble>	Next difficulty estimate | 10099802.9685 based on data since last change | 10607627.5042 based on data for last three days
Apr 29 13:53:18 <error4733>	quote from john
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Apr 29 13:53:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8208 @ 0.00072 = 5.9098 BTC [+]
Apr 29 13:53:36 <ll>	;;genrate 10000 10099803
Apr 29 13:53:37 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10099803.0, is 0.497936956227 BTC per day and 0.0207473731761 BTC per hour.
Apr 29 13:54:36 <topace>	Diablo-D3: are you buying some blades? seems pricey at only 10GH for 45+ BTC
Apr 29 13:54:50 <Diablo-D3>	topace: I have no active bids on that
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Apr 29 13:55:37 <topace>	very politically correct answer...
Apr 29 13:55:37 <topace>	going to bid with 3 seconds to spare? :p
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Apr 29 13:56:13 <Diablo-D3>	nope
Apr 29 13:56:15 <Diablo-D3>	too high
Apr 29 13:56:19 <Diablo-D3>	my threshold was 30 BTC
Apr 29 13:56:44 <topace>	heh mine was 40 :(
Apr 29 13:57:02 <Diablo-D3>	half hour left on asicminer blade auction https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189248.660
Apr 29 13:59:08 <mircea_popescu>	mine was like 4.5
Apr 29 13:59:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.276334 BTC [-]
Apr 29 13:59:43 <Diablo-D3>	I could reasonably make back 30 BTC in 2 months no matter how fast BFL ships units
Apr 29 13:59:50 <Diablo-D3>	any more than that probably not
Apr 29 14:00:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00072 = 18 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:00:53 <ThickAsThieves>	waitll you see how absurd budding gets for the USB miners
Apr 29 14:01:00 <ThickAsThieves>	bidding*
Apr 29 14:02:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 37 @ 0.00338 = 0.1251 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:02:16 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: well, with those
Apr 29 14:02:32 <Diablo-D3>	I wonder if anyone makes a powered usb hub that can handle high power requirements
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Apr 29 14:02:50 <ThickAsThieves>	i think one has been linked before
Apr 29 14:03:09 <ThickAsThieves>	but watch, people will pay like 5-8btc ea
Apr 29 14:03:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8318 @ 0.00072251 = 6.0098 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:03:48 <Diablo-D3>	they're entirely USB powered so
Apr 29 14:03:58 <Diablo-D3>	each one uses 2.5 watts
Apr 29 14:04:05 <Diablo-D3>	or 0.5 amps
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Apr 29 14:05:09 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: those I'd probably do a blanket bid on all of them 1 BTC each
Apr 29 14:05:25 <ThickAsThieves>	not gonna be nearly enough
Apr 29 14:05:46 <ThickAsThieves>	so many people want one
Apr 29 14:05:48 *	Diablo-D3 shrugs
Apr 29 14:05:53 <Diablo-D3>	I have 487 BTC.
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Apr 29 14:06:24 <Diablo-D3>	http://www.newertech.com/products/7_port_powered_usb2_hub.php
Apr 29 14:06:25 <Diablo-D3>	hrm
Apr 29 14:07:04 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191018.msg1977536#msg1977536 lol
Apr 29 14:07:18 <kakobrekla>	oh so now we delete the fuckups
Apr 29 14:07:21 <Diablo-D3>	that does 0.5 amps per plug for all 7
Apr 29 14:07:23 <kakobrekla>	that works.
Apr 29 14:08:01 <mircea_popescu>	guy was funny lol
Apr 29 14:08:06 <Diablo-D3>	https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/cef0/
Apr 29 14:08:19 <Diablo-D3>	4.5 amps
Apr 29 14:08:24 <Diablo-D3>	so not enough for 16
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Apr 29 14:10:41 <truff1es>	;;calc 487*135
Apr 29 14:10:42 <gribble>	65745
Apr 29 14:12:38 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.000725 = 18.125 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 14:21:27 <Diablo-D3>	auction has crossed 50 btc.
Apr 29 14:21:41 <Uglux>	how long does friedcat usually need for a share transfer?
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Apr 29 14:22:13 <Diablo-D3>	Uglux: usually before the next dividend payment
Apr 29 14:22:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00338 = 0.0507 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:23:07 <Uglux>	thanks
Apr 29 14:23:16 <mircea_popescu>	lmao 50
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Apr 29 14:24:03 <Uglux>	its the goldrush :)
Apr 29 14:24:44 <mircea_popescu>	ddue wtf, a 10gh itam is never mining two full blocks.
Apr 29 14:27:06 <Diablo-D3>	auction is over
Apr 29 14:27:18 <Diablo-D3>	I think that bid for 53 made it
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Apr 29 14:28:07 <PsychoticBoy>	so for 40 btc you could have a eruptor blade
Apr 29 14:28:34 <PsychoticBoy>	;;genrate 10000
Apr 29 14:28:36 <gribble>	The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
Apr 29 14:29:11 <PsychoticBoy>	lets say 0.5 a day for the next 2 weeks, after that 0.45 btc for 2 weeks hmmmn
Apr 29 14:29:26 <PsychoticBoy>	not such a great deal
Apr 29 14:29:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00338 = 0.338 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:29:48 <louong>	but you get them now vs. (unknown time) with Avalon/BFL
Apr 29 14:29:52 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: was it you that said we wouldnt cross 50?
Apr 29 14:29:57 <louong>	part of the price includes the certainty
Apr 29 14:30:05 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 first off, diff is going up > 10% in a day
Apr 29 14:30:13 <PsychoticBoy>	true
Apr 29 14:30:15 <Diablo-D3>	I agree.
Apr 29 14:30:21 <Diablo-D3>	I didnt have any active bids.
Apr 29 14:30:50 <Diablo-D3>	http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/04/915-fair-price-for-asic-miner.html
Apr 29 14:31:50 <lippoper1>	Diablo-D3: I have 487 BTC.
Apr 29 14:31:58 <lippoper1>	you mean 487k BTC?
Apr 29 14:32:23 <Diablo-D3>	no, 487.
Apr 29 14:33:10 <PsychoticBoy>	that belongs to DMC
Apr 29 14:33:14 <PsychoticBoy>	or what
Apr 29 14:33:27 <Diablo-D3>	no, mine.
Apr 29 14:33:34 <lippoper1>	why don't you have more?
Apr 29 14:33:40 <lippoper1>	did you also lose them day trading?
Apr 29 14:33:43 <ThickAsThieves>	how many shoulod he have?
Apr 29 14:33:43 <lippoper1>	;-)
Apr 29 14:33:43 <PsychoticBoy>	wow few months ago you were brooke
Apr 29 14:33:55 <PsychoticBoy>	sold your body lolz
Apr 29 14:33:58 <Diablo-D3>	lippoper1: why should I have more?
Apr 29 14:34:13 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: no, I sold 371 shares of ASICMINER
Apr 29 14:34:20 <lippoper1>	You're a great part of the community, I would just assume you probably had more than 480'ish
Apr 29 14:34:22 <PsychoticBoy>	good deal
Apr 29 14:34:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.276334 = 2.5527 BTC [-]
Apr 29 14:34:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Apr 29 14:34:49 <Diablo-D3>	lippoper1: I dont buy BTC, but I accept donations.
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Apr 29 14:35:14 <lippoper1>	well, when you make our new Alt Coin, i will donate some DiabloCoins to you
Apr 29 14:35:16 <ThickAsThieves>	loppoper1, support your community send us all donations
Apr 29 14:35:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2768 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:35:45 <PsychoticBoy>	1PsychoKoNsM4iMyw7hHAYBRx3HgNqE28t
Apr 29 14:35:49 <PsychoticBoy>	lol
Apr 29 14:35:50 <Diablo-D3>	lippoper1: DiabloMiner probably hasnt even paid for itself
Apr 29 14:35:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.277 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:36:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.278 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:36:03 <Diablo-D3>	if you realize that a programmer with my skills could get paid $100+/hr
Apr 29 14:36:38 <ThickAsThieves>	why code when you can IRC all day
Apr 29 14:36:42 <PsychoticBoy>	why dont you work?
Apr 29 14:36:45 <Diablo-D3>	ThickAsThieves: I dont IRC as much as I used to
Apr 29 14:36:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i dont work as much as I used too
Apr 29 14:36:56 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 29 14:37:06 <joecool>	Diablo-D3: bullshit
Apr 29 14:37:08 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: its not that I dont work
Apr 29 14:37:17 <Diablo-D3>	PsychoticBoy: its just I dont like working as a programmer fulltime
Apr 29 14:37:19 <PsychoticBoy>	I have a day time job although I dont need one
Apr 29 14:37:23 <Diablo-D3>	bosses tend to not understand the art
Apr 29 14:37:32 <PsychoticBoy>	true
Apr 29 14:37:37 <joecool>	you just diversify your channels on IRC more to make it look like you talk less (but in reality you just talk more in more places)
Apr 29 14:37:42 <lippoper1>	That's why you need to program something you love
Apr 29 14:37:50 <Diablo-D3>	lippoper1: exactly.
Apr 29 14:37:54 <lippoper1>	like a new Alt Coin with its own proprietary miner
Apr 29 14:38:15 <Diablo-D3>	well, my alt coin would be cpu only
Apr 29 14:38:18 <Diablo-D3>	so the miner would be built in
Apr 29 14:38:22 <lippoper1>	ok
Apr 29 14:38:29 <lippoper1>	i'm all for it
Apr 29 14:38:36 <PsychoticBoy>	like all clients begin with
Apr 29 14:38:45 <lippoper1>	except FeatherCoin
Apr 29 14:38:47 <lippoper1>	lol
Apr 29 14:39:11 <PsychoticBoy>	one blow and all your feathercoins are gone lol
Apr 29 14:39:16 <lippoper1>	hahaha
Apr 29 14:39:33 <lippoper1>	you can't even keep them in a pillowcase without them flying out somehow
Apr 29 14:39:46 <Diablo-D3>	heh.
Apr 29 14:39:49 <Diablo-D3>	thats only because of nude women
Apr 29 14:39:54 <Diablo-D3>	they always want pillow fights
Apr 29 14:40:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:40:45 <mircea_popescu>	Diablo-D3 http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/27/lingerie-firm-launches-womens-underwear-for-men-3669208/
Apr 29 14:40:45 <benkay>	bosses want like 40 hours per week out of programmers
Apr 29 14:40:50 <mircea_popescu>	not women's fault
Apr 29 14:40:56 <Diablo-D3>	mircea_popescu: the fuck?
Apr 29 14:40:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.285 = 5.14 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:41:02 <Diablo-D3>	benkay: which is actually fine
Apr 29 14:41:06 <Diablo-D3>	I program _more_ than 40 hours a week
Apr 29 14:41:06 <benkay>	but I find an upper limit on my creative productivity at like 32
Apr 29 14:41:11 <Diablo-D3>	the thing is
Apr 29 14:41:21 <Diablo-D3>	dont expect me to be doing anything than thinking about the problem for that.
Apr 29 14:41:21 <benkay>	you probably also spend more time programming than I do
Apr 29 14:41:25 <benkay>	i spend most of my time learning
Apr 29 14:41:38 <Diablo-D3>	btw, Ive found something rather productive
Apr 29 14:41:39 <lippoper1>	dude
Apr 29 14:41:47 <Diablo-D3>	macvim does fullscren.
Apr 29 14:41:50 <lippoper1>	let's make an alt coin with some benefits
Apr 29 14:41:58 <lippoper1>	that sounds like a great Diablo programmer task
Apr 29 14:42:06 <Diablo-D3>	benkay: I subscribe to the perl hubris type of school
Apr 29 14:42:16 <Diablo-D3>	90% thinking 10% actual coding
Apr 29 14:42:30 <benkay>	that's why i'm diving into clojure
Apr 29 14:42:32 <Diablo-D3>	why code it wrong 4 times when you can code it right once
Apr 29 14:42:35 <lippoper1>	that's my approach to life
Apr 29 14:42:41 <lippoper1>	that's why I barely do anything
Apr 29 14:42:52 <Diablo-D3>	seriously, if your code has bugs you probably didnt think enough
Apr 29 14:43:03 <ThickAsThieves>	that approach probly works better with coding than with life
Apr 29 14:43:05 <benkay>	i'm at a point in my development where i need to fail and iterate rapidly
Apr 29 14:43:10 <ThickAsThieves>	sometimes you just gotta do something
Apr 29 14:43:15 <benkay>	in my development development :)
Apr 29 14:43:21 <Diablo-D3>	like, Ive been trying to make a very fast malloc for single threaded apps
Apr 29 14:43:26 <lippoper1>	I sit there and I think about it for 90% of the time
Apr 29 14:43:29 <Diablo-D3>	I keep whamming right into KISS hard
Apr 29 14:43:37 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm a fan of iteration and learning by doing
Apr 29 14:43:39 <benkay>	did you grow into being able to see the right approach? or were you always a 90% think, 10% crank guy
Apr 29 14:43:42 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm also not a programmer
Apr 29 14:43:54 <lippoper1>	then I just come to the conclusion that with the remaining 10% of the time I will not be able to do it to the best of my ability and move on
Apr 29 14:43:55 <Diablo-D3>	benkay: I kind have always been that
Apr 29 14:44:05 <Diablo-D3>	I'll rapidly iterate multiple designs during the 10% though
Apr 29 14:44:07 <benkay>	Diablo-D3 how long have you been at it?
Apr 29 14:44:11 <Diablo-D3>	hrm, awhile
Apr 29 14:44:15 <Diablo-D3>	Ive been doing C for like 15 years
Apr 29 14:44:16 <Diablo-D3>	and Im 29
Apr 29 14:44:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
Apr 29 14:44:30 <benkay>	coming up on mastery, it sounds like
Apr 29 14:44:37 <lippoper1>	wow you're sexy and you're 30
Apr 29 14:44:42 <lippoper1>	;-)
Apr 29 14:44:44 <benkay>	do you remember much about programming when you were 16?
Apr 29 14:44:46 <benkay>	or 17?
Apr 29 14:44:56 <benkay>	how was your process different then?
Apr 29 14:45:22 <truff1es>	<lippoper1> wow you're sexy and you're 30>>>> hmmm
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Apr 29 14:45:49 <lippoper1>	lol
Apr 29 14:46:48 <ThickAsThieves>	i was programming qbasic when i was in highschool, and some pascal, it was useful to learn coding concepts, especially since i got into web design after, but coding is much too tedious for me
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Apr 29 14:47:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.285 = 3.855 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:47:15 <benkay>	heh
Apr 29 14:47:17 <ThickAsThieves>	not the kind of brain i have
Apr 29 14:47:22 <benkay>	that was directed at Diablo-D3
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Apr 29 14:48:24 <benkay>	buuuut, ThickAsThieves, what kind of brain *do* you have? where do you pull the currencies in from?
Apr 29 14:48:35 <ThickAsThieves>	i excel at other things
Apr 29 14:49:50 <benkay>	...
Apr 29 14:50:25 <ThickAsThieves>	surely we dont need to turn this into more of a circle jerk
Apr 29 14:51:10 <lippoper1>	anyone want to mine some PPC?
Apr 29 14:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.81 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8490998 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:54:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.84909999 = 9.2455 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:54:08 <lippoper1>	anyone mine FTC?
Apr 29 14:54:14 <Diablo-D3>	[02:44:44] <benkay> do you remember much about programming when you were 16?
Apr 29 14:54:14 <lippoper1>	anyone in here mining?
Apr 29 14:54:23 <Diablo-D3>	benkay: I was programming before that, C wasnt my first language
Apr 29 14:54:25 <Diablo-D3>	its just my favorite
Apr 29 14:54:36 <Diablo-D3>	I dont remember much of programming back then
Apr 29 14:54:59 <Diablo-D3>	[02:44:37] <lippoper1> wow you're sexy and you're 30
Apr 29 14:55:00 <Diablo-D3>	[02:44:42] <lippoper1> ;-)
Apr 29 14:55:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.85 = 3.7 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:55:05 <Diablo-D3>	I only want to hear those words out of a woman.
Apr 29 14:55:25 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.000725 = 10.875 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
Apr 29 14:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.86979999 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:57:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.285 = 7.71 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:57:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
Apr 29 14:58:56 <lippoper1>	(2:55:05 PM) Diablo-D3: I only want to hear those words out of a woman.
Apr 29 14:59:47 <Uglux>	what is this? prison chat?
Apr 29 14:59:54 <Uglux>	:>
Apr 29 15:00:24 <Diablo-D3>	damnit, john k is still tallying those bids
Apr 29 15:00:41 <error4733>	its ok for you
Apr 29 15:00:44 <Diablo-D3>	THE SUSPENSE IS… well, not really doing anything for me at all. I get dividends no matter what.
Apr 29 15:00:51 <error4733>	8@53 ?
Apr 29 15:00:55 <Diablo-D3>	I just wanna know if that 53 btc bid went through
Apr 29 15:03:06 <lippoper1>	was it yours?
Apr 29 15:03:07 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000725 = 7.25 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:03:37 <Diablo-D3>	no
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Apr 29 15:08:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 15:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.9 = 9.5 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:11:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.9 = 5.7 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:11:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.9 = 9.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 15:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.94 = 11.64 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:13:01 <deadweasel>	;;ticker
Apr 29 15:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.95 = 9.75 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:13:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.79999, Best ask: 142.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 142.81200, 24 hour volume: 70443.15925752, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 141.37852
Apr 29 15:14:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.96 = 19.6 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 15:24:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:26:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 3 @ 0.36016613 = 1.0805 BTC [-]
Apr 29 15:26:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:26:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.305 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:26:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.305 = 5.22 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:26:49 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P161T] 2 @ 0.6489861 = 1.298 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 15:28:16 <kakobrekla>	http://casascius.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/i-made-a-video-as-a-reply-to-ron-paul/
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Apr 29 15:30:20 <Uglux>	mike is a good eater
Apr 29 15:33:06 <kakobrekla>	the title should be bitcoin for kindergarden kids
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Apr 29 15:38:00 <Diablo-D3>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189248.msg1960836#msg1960836
Apr 29 15:38:11 <Diablo-D3>	results posted
Apr 29 15:38:29 <Diablo-D3>	AHAHHA
Apr 29 15:38:32 <Diablo-D3>	IT WENT INTO THE 60S
Apr 29 15:38:39 <Diablo-D3>	I WIN
Apr 29 15:39:20 <kakobrekla>	interesting
Apr 29 15:39:22 <Uglux>	nerdgasm
Apr 29 15:39:25 <kakobrekla>	teek has ordered 10 units
Apr 29 15:39:30 <kakobrekla>	while not paying out his debts
Apr 29 15:39:34 <kakobrekla>	;;getrating teek
Apr 29 15:39:35 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User teek, rated since Mon Jul 30 21:46:10 2012. Cumulative rating 4, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=teek
Apr 29 15:42:19 <mircea_popescu>	what debts he had ?
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Apr 29 15:43:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00072584 = 0.9073 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:43:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00315598 = 13.4129 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:46:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.462 = 0.924 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:46:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.456 = 1.368 BTC [-]
Apr 29 15:47:07 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.msg1978676#msg1978676
Apr 29 15:48:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3244 @ 0.00073602 = 2.3876 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:50:25 <dub>	heh
Apr 29 15:51:24 <dub>	aethero isnt a scammer, everyone is just out to get him https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.msg1972605#msg1972605
Apr 29 15:51:35 <kakobrekla>	no bitcoin for me-come back 1 year
Apr 29 15:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	The reason ZIGGAP is not currently up is because my competition has been selectively scamming me. You see the following organizations are all ran by the same group of organized crime and money launderers:
Apr 29 15:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	OKPay
Apr 29 15:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	BitInstant
Apr 29 15:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	Coinbase
Apr 29 15:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	Coinabul
Apr 29 15:53:23 <mircea_popescu>	BTC-E
Apr 29 15:53:25 <mircea_popescu>	MtGox
Apr 29 15:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	pretty good. so this is chiefly an issue of meds ?
Apr 29 15:54:25 <mircea_popescu>	BTCJam too
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Apr 29 15:54:45 <jurov>	poor molecular, has to repay lost shipments in BTC after 6 months... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139787.msg1978669#msg1978669
Apr 29 15:55:00 <mircea_popescu>	this makes a nice narrative. dwolla was created just to ach money through bitinstant before coinbase came about, all the while being in cahoots with mtgox and btcjam.
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Apr 29 15:55:28 <ThickAsThieves>	like anyone cares about btcjam
Apr 29 15:56:15 <mircea_popescu>	you know who else is in cahoots with mtgox ? bitme and localbitoins.
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Apr 29 15:57:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
Apr 29 15:57:33 <kakobrekla>	whats with localbitcoins
Apr 29 15:58:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.457 = 0.914 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:58:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.003389 = 0.1017 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:58:10 <benkay>	how is lbtc in bed with gox?
Apr 29 15:58:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00355 = 0.071 BTC [+]
Apr 29 15:59:06 <ezdiy>	i knew it
Apr 29 15:59:29 <ezdiy>	so to get in the secret bitcoin market cabal one has to sell out half of the company, hmm
Apr 29 16:00:03 <benkay>	whatchoo mean, ezdiy?
Apr 29 16:00:52 <ezdiy>	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1crk44/did_anybody_else_just_see_this_posted_and_quickly/
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Apr 29 16:10:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [+]
Apr 29 16:12:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33479999 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 16:15:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3348 = 0.6696 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 16:32:20 <dub>	I need some form of merit badge
Apr 29 16:32:38 <Diablo-D3>	wgy
Apr 29 16:32:39 <Diablo-D3>	why
Apr 29 16:32:46 <dub>	I'm the scam whisperer
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Apr 29 16:33:32 <Diablo-D3>	oh?
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Apr 29 16:35:14 <kakobrekla>	;;rate dub 1 some form of merit badge
Apr 29 16:35:16 <gribble>	Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
Apr 29 16:35:21 <kakobrekla>	blah
Apr 29 16:35:25 <dub>	lol
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Apr 29 16:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 16:49:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.199 = 0.597 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 16:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 16:51:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4611 = 2.3055 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 16:56:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 235 @ 0.01004 = 2.3594 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 17:02:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.000725 = 10.9113 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 17:02:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.302 BTC [-]
Apr 29 17:02:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.302 BTC [-]
Apr 29 17:03:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.305 = 22.185 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:04:40 <rikur>	http://bitbet.us/bet/337/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-may-1st/ should be resolved as first miners have already been delivered and they are within +-10% of advertised specs (5.5 GH/s (+- 10% running variance))
Apr 29 17:06:25 <ThickAsThieves>	if so, then the July one is also resolved
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Apr 29 17:13:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 98 @ 0.00338 = 0.3312 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 17:19:18 <rikur>	ThickAsThieves: agreed
Apr 29 17:19:25 <rikur>	both should be resolved
Apr 29 17:20:03 <rikur>	I only have a small vote on the May one :)
Apr 29 17:20:23 <rikur>	very risky bet, but seems like it paid off
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Apr 29 17:23:55 <ThickAsThieves>	it will be debated surely
Apr 29 17:24:05 <ThickAsThieves>	not sure which side I would lean toward
Apr 29 17:24:25 <ThickAsThieves>	they do appear to have shipped more than just testing units
Apr 29 17:24:44 <ThickAsThieves>	they use more power than originally anticipated
Apr 29 17:24:54 <ThickAsThieves>	but the bet says "advertised specs"
Apr 29 17:25:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.3045 = 13.045 BTC [-]
Apr 29 17:25:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3049 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:25:07 <mircea_popescu>	you know in retrospect... that aethero post
Apr 29 17:25:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.305 = 11.745 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:25:12 <ThickAsThieves>	and does not limit when those specs can be advertised
Apr 29 17:25:17 <mircea_popescu>	i'm not even sure what's the take away. the dazzling display of paranoia
Apr 29 17:25:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3075 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:25:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3099 = 2.6198 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:25:31 <ThickAsThieves>	it was probly just a diversion
Apr 29 17:25:32 <deadweasel>	it's really thick on that post.  somebody is using too many drugs.
Apr 29 17:25:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.30997 = 13.0997 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:25:37 <mircea_popescu>	or the fact that bitcoin "businesses" and "infrastructure" are so shitty someone could end up with the impression he's being targetted
Apr 29 17:25:45 <mircea_popescu>	whereas they just naturally fail to work
Apr 29 17:25:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.30998 = 13.0998 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:25:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.312499 = 3.9375 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:25:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.3199 = 39.597 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:25:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.32 = 3.96 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:26:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:26:22 <deadweasel>	an unhealthy dose of paranoia and a shitty infrastructure = ranting and raving.
Apr 29 17:26:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32475 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:28:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 36 @ 0.00328 = 0.1181 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:28:57 <savetheinternet>	hey dumbasses
Apr 29 17:29:01 <savetheinternet>	how are you all doing tonight
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Apr 29 17:29:22 <jurov>	fine till you arrived
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Apr 29 17:30:43 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.199 = 0.398 BTC [-]
Apr 29 17:34:36 <ThickAsThieves>	it's "Dumas"
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Apr 29 17:35:58 <dub>	mircea_popescu: I got a distinctly manic response from him when I asked his wife about the legality of her internet bakery
Apr 29 17:36:37 <truff1es>	why r u asking wifes anything...
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Apr 29 17:37:23 <rikur>	ThickAsThieves: the product page has never mentioned any wattage, just GH/s. I pre-ordered products twice and never saw wattage mentioned anywhere, so if you ask me the No voters are just coming up with excuses.
Apr 29 17:38:38 <dub>	mircea_popescu: this was 6 months or so back, I assumed there was a train wreck coming at that point
Apr 29 17:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 1.9011 = 26.6154 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 17:40:47 <ThickAsThieves>	rikur, I could swear that there used to be power specs on the page, also that the advertised GHs used to be higher for some products
Apr 29 17:41:18 <ThickAsThieves>	however even if so, what's advertised now, is still techincally meeting the terms of the bet text
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Apr 29 17:41:46 <ThickAsThieves>	as it does not specify which specs advertised would be used
Apr 29 17:41:49 <mircea_popescu>	i think it was said a thousand times that a. specs are hash and power and b. the specs at the time of the bet count
Apr 29 17:42:06 <ThickAsThieves>	its not said in the bet
Apr 29 17:42:23 <mircea_popescu>	it is, inasmuch as it doesn't say otherwise.
Apr 29 17:43:18 <ThickAsThieves>	does that mean if specs were changed in the advertisment before the newer bets, that those specs will be referred to?
Apr 29 17:43:37 <kakobrekla>	they were advertising 1gh/w
Apr 29 17:43:38 <FabianB_>	!t m S.MPOE
Apr 29 17:43:38 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067147 / 0.00070786 / 0.00073602 (795906 shares, 563.40 BTC), 7D: 0.00064 / 0.00069667 / 0.00073762 (2506507 shares, 1,746.23 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069187 / 0.00073891 (10333478 shares, 7,149.47 BTC)
Apr 29 17:43:39 <kakobrekla>	big time
Apr 29 17:43:43 <kakobrekla>	you cant go around that
Apr 29 17:43:51 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves which do you mean ?
Apr 29 17:44:02 <ThickAsThieves>	not sure when they changed teh advertised specs
Apr 29 17:44:03 <jborkl>	they, since last year- have advertised 1gh/w
Apr 29 17:44:07 <ThickAsThieves>	but if a bet was made after that
Apr 29 17:44:11 <jborkl>	only recent changed
Apr 29 17:44:13 <ThickAsThieves>	then should not those specs be used
Apr 29 17:44:21 <ThickAsThieves>	made = created
Apr 29 17:44:31 <rikur>	ThickAsThieves: you can check the internet archive for the webby around the time the bet was made, no difference at all IIRC
Apr 29 17:44:34 <mircea_popescu>	well, since now bfl is not only a scammy piece of shit on all the other counts,
Apr 29 17:44:36 <ThickAsThieves>	and how do we determine what date the specs advertised were changed
Apr 29 17:44:40 <mircea_popescu>	but also on the count of altering specs
Apr 29 17:44:50 <mircea_popescu>	i would guess only bets clearly specifying it would be allowed.
Apr 29 17:44:56 <jborkl>	I do not have a bet at all
Apr 29 17:44:57 <mircea_popescu>	at the time these bets were allowed bfl hadn
Apr 29 17:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.32000001 = 0.64 BTC [+]
Apr 29 17:45:03 <mircea_popescu>	't pulled this particular dirty trick yet.
Apr 29 17:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.32 = 5.76 BTC [-]
Apr 29 17:45:23 <jborkl>	but to me it would be clear that the specs are failed for the bet
Apr 29 17:45:28 <ThickAsThieves>	rikur you are wrong
Apr 29 17:45:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm pretty sure specs changed
Apr 29 17:45:43 <jborkl>	the Jala is much faster than specd and uses much more power
Apr 29 17:45:43 <rikur>	ThickAsThieves: just check the internet archive
Apr 29 17:45:46 <mircea_popescu>	fascinating what people are willing to say for a dime thi.
Apr 29 17:45:48 <ThickAsThieves>	no thanks
Apr 29 17:45:54 <mircea_popescu>	rikur you are lieing and you know it, stop already.
Apr 29 17:46:01 <ThickAsThieves>	wayback machine sux
Apr 29 17:46:17 <ThickAsThieves>	its only marginally useful
Apr 29 17:46:23 <ThickAsThieves>	particularly on dynamic pages
Apr 29 17:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/pXyy3.pngand
Apr 29 17:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	http://i.imgur.com/5MBoA.png
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Apr 29 17:47:16 <rikur>	ThickAsThieves: you apparently don't know how the wayback machine works
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Apr 29 17:47:35 <ThickAsThieves>	more that i dont care
Apr 29 17:47:46 <ThickAsThieves>	but sure
Apr 29 17:47:54 <ThickAsThieves>	you got me
Apr 29 17:48:25 <rikur>	mircea_popescu: sorry but no I
Apr 29 17:48:27 <rikur>	m not :)
Apr 29 17:48:42 <mircea_popescu>	quite clearly stated on their own forum. release specs : jalapeno 4.5 at 4.5 ; single 60 at 60 mini 1500 at 1500
Apr 29 17:48:44 <ThickAsThieves>	rikur did you look at those images mp just linked?
Apr 29 17:48:53 <mircea_popescu>	it's in the screenshot and ffs everyone knows it already.
Apr 29 17:48:55 <kakobrekla>	also says _FINAL_ spec
Apr 29 17:49:00 <rikur>	But I hope whoever resolves it really goes through the arguments and doesn't just pick one on a whim
Apr 29 17:49:18 <ThickAsThieves>	i do think them changing the specs advertised is sneaky
Apr 29 17:49:26 <ThickAsThieves>	and would find it amusing if that turned the bet
Apr 29 17:49:39 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves ya, well, bitbet isn't betsofbitcoin
Apr 29 17:50:03 <jborkl>	it also is running at 5.8 gh on average - so it fails at 5gh bet also
Apr 29 17:50:05 <ThickAsThieves>	also, rikur, it is not in your best interest to rush bet resolution
Apr 29 17:50:12 <ThickAsThieves>	just in case BFL fixes the specs
Apr 29 17:50:22 <ThickAsThieves>	and meets original claims
Apr 29 17:50:29 <ThickAsThieves>	more obviously
Apr 29 17:50:55 <rikur>	ThickAsThieves: those posts are from last year, when the bet was created the product page only advertised GH/s.
Apr 29 17:51:04 <mircea_popescu>	what are they doing anyway, 28 gh/s at 150w or ?
Apr 29 17:51:04 <ThickAsThieves>	prove it
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Apr 29 17:51:34 <jborkl>	Jalapeno is doin 5.8 and approx 30w
Apr 29 17:51:42 <kakobrekla>	rikur so you would have been ok with a box of gpus?
Apr 29 17:51:56 <ThickAsThieves>	also, its likely that the forum posts stille xist
Apr 29 17:52:02 <ThickAsThieves>	or are quoted
Apr 29 17:52:20 <ThickAsThieves>	is a forum post an advertisement?
Apr 29 17:52:38 <kakobrekla>	http://i.imgur.com/pXyy3.png
Apr 29 17:52:43 <kakobrekla>	this is.
Apr 29 17:52:51 <ThickAsThieves>	it does say "announcem,ent"
Apr 29 17:53:02 <kakobrekla>	...
Apr 29 17:53:12 <rikur>	but not advertisement :)
Apr 29 17:53:14 <rikur>	http://web.archive.org/web/20130404210143/https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/5-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html
Apr 29 17:53:23 <kakobrekla>	ofc is advertisment
Apr 29 17:53:25 <kakobrekla>	its their forum
Apr 29 17:53:50 <mircea_popescu>	why does someone care about the 4 april 2013 snapshot ?
Apr 29 17:53:51 <rikur>	That's the oldest Jalopeno page on wayback machine, it's after the bet but hey, it's better than nothing. Do you have a product page that has wattage mentioned anywhere? Didn't think so :p
Apr 29 17:53:56 <mircea_popescu>	ahahaha
Apr 29 17:54:02 <mircea_popescu>	so wait wait.
Apr 29 17:54:03 <mircea_popescu>	it
Apr 29 17:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	's after the bet but hey ?
Apr 29 17:54:30 <ThickAsThieves>	^
Apr 29 17:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	Y and 11 others followed you
Apr 29 17:54:41 <mircea_popescu>	dude i'm hot stuff.
Apr 29 17:54:42 <kakobrekla>	well you can see the jalapeno went from 1 usb cable
Apr 29 17:54:44 <kakobrekla>	to 2 usb cables
Apr 29 17:54:46 <rikur>	mircea_popescu: please show me a single product page link that has wattage mentioned, from any date. If you don't have one, I think the April 4th link is valuable :)
Apr 29 17:54:50 <kakobrekla>	to usb cable and a brick
Apr 29 17:55:03 <jborkl>	mircea_popescu, it is running at 5.8 -from very reliable sources - so the bet is a fail
Apr 29 17:55:03 <rikur>	kakobrekla: has nothing to do with performance though :)
Apr 29 17:55:10 <kakobrekla>	it has
Apr 29 17:55:10 <mircea_popescu>	so you think the link is valuable, good for you.
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Apr 29 17:55:15 <kakobrekla>	peformance is gh/s/w
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Apr 29 17:55:43 <rikur>	jborkl: wrong, the advertised performance was with +-10% variance and the bet said that it has to be +-10% of that
Apr 29 17:55:54 <deadweasel>	also, it should not crap out in two weeks time..
Apr 29 17:56:10 <kakobrekla>	accually
Apr 29 17:56:10 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl tbh, the +- there is to be construed in their favour. at least this hash, no more than this wattage sort of thing.
Apr 29 17:56:11 <deadweasel>	that will be interesting... which bfl catches fire first?
Apr 29 17:56:15 <kakobrekla>	the case was not in the 10%
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Apr 29 17:56:18 <mircea_popescu>	i don't think they'd count as failed for overdelivering
Apr 29 17:56:20 <kakobrekla>	case is much bigger
Apr 29 17:56:38 <kakobrekla>	peformance is also density
Apr 29 17:56:39 <rikur>	kakobrekla: size of a unit has nothing to do with performance, don't be silly
Apr 29 17:56:44 <kakobrekla>	sure
Apr 29 17:56:53 <jborkl>	oh, I would have rear the bet +- of 5gh or w\e
Apr 29 17:56:56 <jborkl>	read
Apr 29 17:57:13 <mircea_popescu>	your boatload of bfl jalapeno has arrived : http://www.imageblog.co.nz/images/20111018014140_failboatrena.jpg
Apr 29 17:57:20 <kakobrekla>	rikur they failed on so many levels you can just pick one favourite
Apr 29 17:57:29 <ThickAsThieves>	ta-da https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/117-announcement-bfl-asic-release-specifications.html
Apr 29 17:58:09 <jborkl>	well, it was supposed to warm coffee also, it failed there also
Apr 29 17:58:16 <kakobrekla>	yep.
Apr 29 17:58:23 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves rikur still thinks the web archive is valuable.
Apr 29 17:58:44 <mircea_popescu>	"Power figures are +/- 10% of those listed while we finish optimizing our power subsystem." << that's where the 10% came from im pretty sure.
Apr 29 17:58:51 <ThickAsThieves>	rikur, what say you: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/117-announcement-bfl-asic-release-specifications.html
Apr 29 17:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	as in, whoever put the bets in trying to match whatever bfl was claiming at the time
Apr 29 18:00:12 <rikur>	ThickAsThieves: that's not an an advertisement. Forum moderators claims/behaviour can't be used against a company in court.
Apr 29 18:00:30 <rikur>	It's not just in case of BFL, but for any forum posts
Apr 29 18:00:32 <ThickAsThieves>	what does court have to do with it
Apr 29 18:00:49 <rikur>	ThickAsThieves: they're the ones that eventually solve conflicts
Apr 29 18:01:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4749 = 4.749 BTC [+]
Apr 29 18:01:03 <mircea_popescu>	the account is called BFL_office ;'/
Apr 29 18:01:11 <rikur>	I might sue bitbet.us over this for sure :)
Apr 29 18:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	bwahaha
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Apr 29 18:01:37 <ThickAsThieves>	ad·ver·tise·ment  [ad-ver-tahyz-muhnt, ad-vur-tis-muhnt, -tiz-] noun
Apr 29 18:01:37 <ThickAsThieves>	1. a paid announcement, as of goods for sale, in newspapers or magazines, on radio or television, etc.
Apr 29 18:01:37 <ThickAsThieves>	2. a public notice, especially in print.
Apr 29 18:01:37 <ThickAsThieves>	3. the action of making generally known; a calling to the attention of the public
Apr 29 18:01:51 <rikur>	mircea_popescu: it only costs <300$ and I would win more bitcoins in this case, so it would be worth a shot
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Apr 29 18:02:28 <mircea_popescu>	rikur http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/O/OrganizedPseudolegalCommercialArgumentLitigant.aspx
Apr 29 18:02:32 <mircea_popescu>	that's the term of art.
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Apr 29 18:03:11 <rikur>	mircea_popescu: thanks, but I know my rights well enough
Apr 29 18:03:33 <mircea_popescu>	the problem would seem to be you imagine much more than you know.
Apr 29 18:03:39 <rikur>	sure
Apr 29 18:03:55 <ThickAsThieves>	rikur, your only argument is that the bet does not state what date of advertisement would be used, and you already see where mp lies on that
Apr 29 18:04:32 <rikur>	ThickAsThieves: nope, my argument is that the product page has never advertised wattage and I know this since I've ordered from them twice.
Apr 29 18:04:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00343999 = 0.0103 BTC [+]
Apr 29 18:04:47 <ThickAsThieves>	your anecdotal experience is not a factor
Apr 29 18:04:54 <rikur>	thus wayback machine
Apr 29 18:05:02 <kakobrekla>	where you ordered it from and what you have read has nothing to do with what they stated
Apr 29 18:05:05 <ThickAsThieves>	it's not just up to MP tho, he has a crew that decided the resolution
Apr 29 18:05:10 <ThickAsThieves>	so cross your fingers
Apr 29 18:05:18 <ThickAsThieves>	or tamper the jury pool
Apr 29 18:05:22 <ThickAsThieves>	or stop
Apr 29 18:05:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.679 = 1.358 BTC [+]
Apr 29 18:05:57 <rikur>	no like I said I just hope that they realy look into the arguments properly and take their time to resolve it in a fair way
Apr 29 18:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.4571 = 8.2278 BTC [-]
Apr 29 18:06:05 <ThickAsThieves>	they will
Apr 29 18:06:05 <kakobrekla>	or sue, obviously
Apr 29 18:06:14 <mircea_popescu>	betty sue
Apr 29 18:06:23 <ThickAsThieves>	peggy sue
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Apr 29 18:06:40 <ThickAsThieves>	a boy named sue
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Apr 29 18:08:06 <kakobrekla>	btw, i just revived https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119338.msg1979975#msg1979975
Apr 29 18:08:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 18:16:08 <ThickAsThieves>	 <+AssetBot> [Cado.AvalonB3] 1 @ 0.05000000 = 0.05000000 [+]
Apr 29 18:16:18 <ThickAsThieves>	and you thought people were overpaying for blades
Apr 29 18:16:46 <ThickAsThieves>	that is 1/11000 of an Avalon
Apr 29 18:16:51 <mircea_popescu>	i have no idea what that is.
Apr 29 18:17:08 <ThickAsThieves>	it's an asset on BitFunder
Apr 29 18:17:23 <ThickAsThieves>	guy is breaking up 3 Avalons on order into 33000 shares
Apr 29 18:18:11 <kakobrekla>	hey hey i got proprietary rights on that syntax
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Apr 29 18:18:31 <kakobrekla>	scam.
Apr 29 18:18:38 <ThickAsThieves>	talk to Jezz
Apr 29 18:18:42 <ThickAsThieves>	Jezzz?
Apr 29 18:18:54 <ThickAsThieves>	i dunno, i think thats the guy who runs the BF bot
Apr 29 18:19:29 <kakobrekla>	say no more!
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Apr 29 18:20:01 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 33000 * 0.05
Apr 29 18:20:02 <gribble>	1650
Apr 29 18:20:06 <mircea_popescu>	bwahahaha what ?
Apr 29 18:20:10 <ThickAsThieves>	lol
Apr 29 18:20:18 <mircea_popescu>	eh get out.
Apr 29 18:20:23 <ThickAsThieves>	sales started at .03 tho
Apr 29 18:20:27 <ThickAsThieves>	so not AS bad
Apr 29 18:20:29 <ThickAsThieves>	but still
Apr 29 18:20:30 <mircea_popescu>	two hundred grand for three avalons ? what is this, sparta ?
Apr 29 18:20:32 <ThickAsThieves>	horrible
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Apr 29 18:20:56 <mircea_popescu>	what are avalons anyway, 60 gh ?
Apr 29 18:21:04 <jborkl>	88
Apr 29 18:21:18 <ThickAsThieves>	shit i'm so stupid, I shouldve boght AM blades amd then IPO'd at 10x
Apr 29 18:21:20 <ThickAsThieves>	derp
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Apr 29 18:21:50 <kakobrekla>	yeah douches do that.
Apr 29 18:22:08 <kakobrekla>	or maybe is just peoples maff
Apr 29 18:22:13 <kakobrekla>	not sure on this one
Apr 29 18:22:37 <mircea_popescu>	so wait.
Apr 29 18:22:45 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 88 * 3 / 1650
Apr 29 18:22:45 <gribble>	0.16
Apr 29 18:22:52 <ThickAsThieves>	i think this is also evidence that a split share AM asset would do well
Apr 29 18:23:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.4729 = 5.6748 BTC [+]
Apr 29 18:23:10 <mircea_popescu>	srsly ? 0.16 gh/btc ?
Apr 29 18:23:18 <ThickAsThieves>	no joke
Apr 29 18:23:27 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 1650 * 142 / 88 / 3
Apr 29 18:23:27 <gribble>	887.5
Apr 29 18:23:29 <ThickAsThieves>	https://bitfunder.com/asset/Cado.AvalonB3
Apr 29 18:23:36 <mircea_popescu>	900 dollah PER GH ?!
Apr 29 18:23:42 <mircea_popescu>	this is more than gpus wtf.
Apr 29 18:23:49 <ThickAsThieves>	oh you have to pay elec + 1% mgmt fee too
Apr 29 18:23:51 <kakobrekla>	ztex fpga roughly
Apr 29 18:23:52 <jborkl>	not smart investment
Apr 29 18:24:11 <jborkl>	to say the least
Apr 29 18:24:25 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves well i'm not even counting the usual scammy " X % of shares are reserved for management" with sliding X
Apr 29 18:24:29 <mircea_popescu>	that's par foer the course
Apr 29 18:24:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.000725 = 7.5038 BTC [-]
Apr 29 18:25:04 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla 80-100 mh/s gpus are about 70-100 bux neh ?
Apr 29 18:25:14 <kakobrekla>	less
Apr 29 18:25:28 <kakobrekla>	50 bux is 250 mhash or so
Apr 29 18:25:29 <ThickAsThieves>	you can get a 7970 for like 340
Apr 29 18:25:32 <ThickAsThieves>	$
Apr 29 18:25:52 <ThickAsThieves>	which does about 680/s on litecoin (more profitable)
Apr 29 18:25:55 <kakobrekla>	5770 is 250 at ~50 bux
Apr 29 18:26:13 <kakobrekla>	at 110w
Apr 29 18:26:19 <mircea_popescu>	insanity.
Apr 29 18:26:57 <ThickAsThieves>	ignoranity
Apr 29 18:27:19 <benkay>	or you can buy a rack of gpus in a 6u mount from Elemental Technologies
Apr 29 18:27:25 <benkay>	stick it someone else's data center
Apr 29 18:27:47 <benkay>	their bread and butter is on-demand transcoding, so they may know what's up w/r/t box design
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Apr 29 18:28:26 <benkay>	i'm about 1/10th of the way into talking my way into free development boxes from them
Apr 29 18:28:32 <benkay>	which i will ship to iceland
Apr 29 18:28:39 <benkay>	and generate bitcoins from geothermal power
Apr 29 18:28:45 <benkay>	or litecoins w/e
Apr 29 18:29:01 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75883.msg1978571#msg1978571
Apr 29 18:29:06 <mircea_popescu>	doesn't this look more like a snowdick ?
Apr 29 18:29:47 <benkay>	wee bit lumpy
Apr 29 18:30:11 <benkay>	my sample size for comparison isn't statistically valid tho
Apr 29 18:30:26 <mircea_popescu>	"Mircea Popescu once again demonstrates his utterly superior intellect: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/ < Deep insight, prescience. Relentless logic."
Apr 29 18:30:30 <mircea_popescu>	ok, which one of you is this ?
Apr 29 18:31:48 <ThickAsThieves>	not me, but I do love the word prescience
Apr 29 18:31:49 <unbalanced_>	Not I, but good post man!
Apr 29 18:32:20 <mircea_popescu>	this is a fine example of why you shouldn't take twitter seriously.
Apr 29 18:32:31 <dub>	250mh from 5770?
Apr 29 18:32:31 <mircea_popescu>	also i hope nassim taleb reads that and gets all pissed off.
Apr 29 18:33:11 <dub>	i was lucky to break 200 and running so hot they barf after a few hours
Apr 29 18:33:26 <mircea_popescu>	ya but you're not cool enough.
Apr 29 18:33:37 <mircea_popescu>	also not running on geopornal thewor.
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Apr 29 18:37:02 <benkay>	geopornal thewor
Apr 29 18:37:18 <benkay>	geonormal tower
Apr 29 18:37:47 <benkay>	log-normal grower
Apr 29 18:38:03 <mircea_popescu>	fogdood.
Apr 29 18:38:13 <benkay>	dello? this is hog.
Apr 29 18:38:17 <mircea_popescu>	bwahayha
Apr 29 18:38:43 <Scrat>	pig benis
Apr 29 18:39:00 <benkay>	penistower power!
Apr 29 18:39:41 <Chaang-Noi>	im a goat!
Apr 29 18:40:04 <mircea_popescu>	kengay.
Apr 29 18:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45711 = 4.5711 BTC [-]
Apr 29 18:41:31 <benkay>	Pope Mercey
Apr 29 18:41:33 <benkay>	fuck
Apr 29 18:41:38 <benkay>	Pope Mercy
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Apr 29 18:42:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.93 BTC [+]
Apr 29 18:42:13 <benkay>	that's actually not a bad name for an ultradom like you
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Apr 29 18:43:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.46 = 2.76 BTC [+]
Apr 29 18:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4724 BTC [+]
Apr 29 18:43:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 29 18:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	the pope, the antipope and the mercypope
Apr 29 18:45:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4724 = 2.8344 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 18:47:08 <jurov>	and its rota
Apr 29 18:47:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00072792 = 4.6587 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 18:48:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
Apr 29 18:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.901 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 18:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4601 = 2.7606 BTC [-]
Apr 29 18:53:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.47239 = 3.3067 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 18:56:53 <inhies>	well
Apr 29 18:56:59 <inhies>	lets hope the july bet gets closed soon :)
Apr 29 18:57:56 <inhies>	"Bets will not be cancelled because it became impossible for one side to win - in such cases bets are closed and paid early instead. "
Apr 29 18:58:25 <jurov>	btw just got a "why hammering nails with microscope" idea
Apr 29 18:58:26 <inhies>	seems like it should be closed early assuming the verdict is yes, the latest deliveries count
Apr 29 18:58:52 <jurov>	why casascius coins aren't charged after successful delivery only?
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Apr 29 18:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45651 = 4.5651 BTC [-]
Apr 29 18:59:54 <jurov>	no trouble with insurance and btc rate then...
Apr 29 18:59:58 <mircea_popescu>	i think they also have gold content no ?
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Apr 29 19:00:20 <jurov>	the 1btc ones do not.. and the 5btc only plating
Apr 29 19:00:45 <mircea_popescu>	ah ok
Apr 29 19:00:54 <Chaang-Noi>	5btc is solid nickle
Apr 29 19:00:59 <Chaang-Noi>	25 btc is plating
Apr 29 19:01:02 <Chaang-Noi>	10 btc is silver
Apr 29 19:01:05 <Chaang-Noi>	and the 1000 btc is gold
Apr 29 19:01:17 <mircea_popescu>	wait, 1k btc is gold ?
Apr 29 19:01:19 <Chaang-Noi>	the 25 btc is gold plated
Apr 29 19:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	1k btc = what, 100 oz fine gold /
Apr 29 19:01:32 <Chaang-Noi>	1000 btc coin is solid gold .999   i has one
Apr 29 19:01:39 <Chaang-Noi>	its 1 oz
Apr 29 19:01:43 <mircea_popescu>	ia but what, 1 ounce ? lol k.
Apr 29 19:01:49 <mircea_popescu>	so tghen still irrelevant, jurov's point stands
Apr 29 19:01:54 <Namworld>	1 oz of gold, + 1000 BTC key
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Apr 29 19:01:56 <Chaang-Noi>	he has gold plated bars at 100 500 and 1000
Apr 29 19:01:58 <Namworld>	Inside it
Apr 29 19:02:05 <Namworld>	The coin itself is irrelevant, almost
Apr 29 19:02:15 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah, an oz of gold? fuck that lol
Apr 29 19:02:16 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld making the coin's value 99.9% btc
Apr 29 19:02:29 <Namworld>	Pretty much
Apr 29 19:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	ironic
Apr 29 19:02:39 <mircea_popescu>	here's this fine gold coin
Apr 29 19:02:44 <Namworld>	I'll take it wooden for all I care.
Apr 29 19:02:46 <mircea_popescu>	the gold in it is pretty much irrelevant.
Apr 29 19:02:49 <Chaang-Noi>	i did buy it when btc was worth much less than now
Apr 29 19:02:57 <Namworld>	Like, the sticker and key would burn in a fire anyway
Apr 29 19:03:06 <Namworld>	So why not a polished wooden coin?
Apr 29 19:03:16 <Namworld>	Stylish
Apr 29 19:03:17 <Chaang-Noi>	i have a bunch of the 10 btc silver ones and got them when 10 btc = an oz of silver
Apr 29 19:03:46 <Chaang-Noi>	my coins are in a 2 hour rates fire proof safe. no fire lol
Apr 29 19:04:52 <Namworld>	Firefighters take their sweet time, fire burns for 2.1 hour
Apr 29 19:05:26 <Namworld>	Hmm... do fireproof rating applies to content burning?
Apr 29 19:05:36 <mircea_popescu>	Namworld polished hardwood is pretty much impossible to catch on fire anyway
Apr 29 19:05:42 <Namworld>	Because plastic would melt way before burning
Apr 29 19:06:16 <mircea_popescu>	actually some plastic is thermosetting. it never melts.
Apr 29 19:07:22 <Namworld>	Yeah, idk what casascius uses...
Apr 29 19:07:45 <jurov>	biodegradable cellophane?
Apr 29 19:07:50 <jurov>	:D
Apr 29 19:07:51 <mircea_popescu>	whale mucus
Apr 29 19:08:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.469899 = 4.2291 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 19:08:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2675 BTC [-]
Apr 29 19:09:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.266 = 2.532 BTC [-]
Apr 29 19:09:17 <mircea_popescu>	fun fact of the day : chemically, cellophane, rayon and cellulose are polymers of glucose
Apr 29 19:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4565 = 4.565 BTC [-]
Apr 29 19:10:03 <Namworld>	Whale mucus? Why not ambergris? "Keeps that fresh Bitcoin smell longer than the competition!"
Apr 29 19:10:13 <dub>	at a guess I'd say he uses recycled mcdonalds burger wrappers
Apr 29 19:10:16 <Chaang-Noi>	yup
Apr 29 19:10:21 <dub>	which he will have in plentiful supply
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Apr 29 19:11:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.469899 BTC [+]
Apr 29 19:11:03 <Chaang-Noi>	namworld a house almost never burns for more than 30 mins, there is no way that safe will get damaged
Apr 29 19:11:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4699 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
Apr 29 19:11:09 <Chaang-Noi>	well the coins
Apr 29 19:11:48 <Chaang-Noi>	the only plasic on the coins is the holograms
Apr 29 19:12:23 <benkay>	namworld are you really counseling someone to dial down their fire insurance?
Apr 29 19:12:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.013001 = 1.3001 BTC [-]
Apr 29 19:13:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.469899 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 19:20:27 <Chaang-Noi>	lol i dont think iv ever seen anyone type out ambergris or even know someone who knew what it was
Apr 29 19:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4565 = 4.565 BTC [-]
Apr 29 19:21:05 <Chaang-Noi>	namworld how do you know so much about whale vomit?
Apr 29 19:21:05 <mircea_popescu>	i know what it is.
Apr 29 19:21:24 <Chaang-Noi>	such a silly thing to know wh?
Apr 29 19:21:28 <mircea_popescu>	cause it's like very expensive
Apr 29 19:21:32 <mircea_popescu>	and also used in perfumery
Apr 29 19:21:34 <Chaang-Noi>	yeah it is
Apr 29 19:21:44 <mircea_popescu>	so that's two good reasons.
Apr 29 19:21:49 <mircea_popescu>	also he's canadian, thus weird.
Apr 29 19:22:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4698999 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
Apr 29 19:22:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4699 BTC [+]
Apr 29 19:22:24 <Chaang-Noi>	i bet the have a lot of whales in canada
Apr 29 19:22:27 <Chaang-Noi>	maybe that is why
Apr 29 19:22:30 <dub>	I hear theres some moosecock in space atm
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Apr 29 19:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4698999 BTC [-]
Apr 29 19:24:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4699 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
Apr 29 19:24:33 <Chaang-Noi>	i slept 4 hours last night... if that...
Apr 29 19:24:47 <Chaang-Noi>	getting up before the sun is weird to me
Apr 29 19:25:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.456001 = 4.56 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 19:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]
Apr 29 19:36:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @ 2.4999 = 4.9998 BTC [+]
Apr 29 19:37:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19987 BTC [-]
Apr 29 19:37:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.1999 = 0.7996 BTC [+]
Apr 29 19:41:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00072792 = 1.3103 BTC [+]
Apr 29 19:41:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 466 @ 0.00073999 = 0.3448 BTC [+]
Apr 29 19:47:07 <truff1es>	dont the days go by so quickly
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Apr 29 20:00:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9534 @ 0.00073999 = 7.0551 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:00:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1766 @ 0.00074202 = 1.3104 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:00:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00074004 = 2.1831 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 20:19:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074202 = 3.7101 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:20:03 <dub>	hrm AM offline on guild
Apr 29 20:20:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 20:20:22 <dub>	;;nethash
Apr 29 20:20:23 <gribble>	78723.6093007
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Apr 29 20:22:55 <mircea_popescu>	and yet...
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Apr 29 20:28:02 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2998 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 20:35:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2501 BTC [-]
Apr 29 20:35:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
Apr 29 20:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4651 = 0.9302 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:39:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4651 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:39:12 <kakobrekla>	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/632-getting-ready-april.html#post9395
Apr 29 20:40:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4749 = 1.4247 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:40:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.475 = 2.85 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:40:11 <dub>	lol
Apr 29 20:40:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1924 BTC [-]
Apr 29 20:40:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 6 @ 0.1923 = 1.1538 BTC [-]
Apr 29 20:40:26 <mircea_popescu>	2weeks
Apr 29 20:40:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.1922 = 0.5766 BTC [-]
Apr 29 20:40:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.2168 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:41:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 17 @ 0.000651 = 0.0111 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:41:54 <mircea_popescu>	http://lewrockwell.com/rockwell/commissars-want-to-destroy-lrc.html this is distinctly insane.
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Apr 29 20:42:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000679 = 0.0679 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:42:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00081 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:42:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0008 = 0.008 BTC [-]
Apr 29 20:43:44 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/329033253124190208
Apr 29 20:44:01 <kakobrekla>	:p
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Apr 29 20:45:25 <kakobrekla>	Then stop demanding hard and fast timeframes for things that we can't give hard and fast timeframes for. Simple as that. I say multiple times "We aren't sure when <fill in the blank>" and a chorus of people respond back "BUT GIVE US AN ESTIMATE!!!!" Repeat that about
Apr 29 20:45:29 <kakobrekla>	20x and that describes the past 6+ months. Like I said earlier in this thread (or maybe it was another one) - the timelines were doled out long before I came on board with BFL. I have worked with what I was handed for this product cycle. Future product cycles, assuming I have
Apr 29 20:45:33 <kakobrekla>	the final authoritative say in the matter, will not contain shipping dates or definitive timelines. The one and only answer to "When?" is "When it's done." If you get something other than that from me on future product cycles, you'll either get it by that date or I have been
Apr 29 20:45:37 <kakobrekla>	overridden in my stance of not providing dates. I fully realize this statement will probably sneak up and bite me in the ass at some unspecified future date due to reasons I can't possibly imagine at the moment.
Apr 29 20:45:41 <kakobrekla>	fuck me
Apr 29 20:45:45 <mircea_popescu>	lmao spam!
Apr 29 20:46:00 <kakobrekla>	myea
Apr 29 20:46:05 <kakobrekla>	twas a bit much
Apr 29 20:46:19 <mircea_popescu>	stop demanding things in exchange for your money
Apr 29 20:46:21 <mircea_popescu>	this is bitcoin!
Apr 29 20:47:01 <mircea_popescu>	http://freemarketincome.com/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/
Apr 29 20:47:08 <mircea_popescu>	repost my article, get the site name wryng
Apr 29 20:47:10 <mircea_popescu>	priceless.
Apr 29 20:48:09 <peterl>	polymedia? there should be a good joke in there somewhere ...
Apr 29 20:48:26 <mircea_popescu>	i guess there must be
Apr 29 20:49:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1991 = 0.3982 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.47498 = 4.7498 BTC [-]
Apr 29 20:53:18 <mircea_popescu>	so a little ago i used a flavoured condom to buttseks. the girl is now claiming she can taste teh flavour.
Apr 29 20:53:30 <mircea_popescu>	isthispossible.jpg
Apr 29 20:55:20 <kakobrekla>	taste the flavour by licking what?
Apr 29 20:55:42 <mircea_popescu>	not by licking anything.
Apr 29 20:55:56 <taub>	... gox should offer volume discounts based on $ value
Apr 29 20:55:56 <taub>	not btc
Apr 29 20:57:00 <taub>	i hate them so much :(
Apr 29 20:57:05 <truffles>	'Alcohol enemas': A frightening new hazing trend?
Apr 29 20:58:24 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu did you also give her a vodka filled tampon?
Apr 29 20:58:48 <thestringpuller>	btw mircea_popescu your april 2013 MPOE report was empowering...
Apr 29 20:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	mno
Apr 29 20:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Apr 29 20:59:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2501 BTC [+]
Apr 29 20:59:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Apr 29 20:59:19 <thestringpuller>	You really rallied the troops in that one.
Apr 29 21:00:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4651 = 0.9302 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:00:53 <thestringpuller>	could you elaborate this statement a little more: Unfortunately the hordes of get-rich-quick noobs allied with the howling incompetence of so called .exchanges. have prevailed
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Apr 29 21:01:18 <mircea_popescu>	that entire max keiser & co meets mtgox lag episode
Apr 29 21:01:34 <thestringpuller>	but are you saying it's a war against the speculators?
Apr 29 21:01:51 <mircea_popescu>	speculation is one thing.
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Apr 29 21:02:23 <mircea_popescu>	this idiocy where "We all believe the US is the best in the world therefore it is because we agree" programme is not speculation, it's marauding stupidity.
Apr 29 21:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	bitcoin is a right phenomena. it's natural enemy is the left. this means the horde of like minded lemmings.
Apr 29 21:03:38 <mircea_popescu>	this is the meaning of "decentralised".
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Apr 29 21:06:51 <taub>	     
Apr 29 21:06:51 <taub>	Loss : -2`320.17106571 BTC
Apr 29 21:06:53 <taub>	ouch :(
Apr 29 21:07:57 <thestringpuller>	enemy of the left?
Apr 29 21:08:03 <thestringpuller>	you mean socialism in general?
Apr 29 21:08:29 <taub>	enemy of the collectivists
Apr 29 21:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	anyone who expects solutions to problems come from the group is left.
Apr 29 21:09:03 <mircea_popescu>	anyone who expects solutions come from the individual is right
Apr 29 21:09:09 <mircea_popescu>	that's pretty much the whole story there.
Apr 29 21:09:19 <thestringpuller>	but even you depend on a group for mpex...non?
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Apr 29 21:09:31 <thestringpuller>	or am I viewing this from a confused viewpoint?
Apr 29 21:09:34 <ThickAsThieves>	but but what about groups of individuals?
Apr 29 21:09:38 <mircea_popescu>	i think so. how do i depend ?
Apr 29 21:10:41 <dub>	why use condom?
Apr 29 21:10:42 <kakobrekla>	we all depend on blockchain ;)
Apr 29 21:11:05 <dub>	what point in cornholing if it aint bareback
Apr 29 21:11:08 <thestringpuller>	You depend on MPOE-PR for you PR. You have a board of directors you refer to for advice as quoted here: "Unfortunately the hordes of get-rich-quick noobs allied with the howling incompetence of so called .exchanges. have prevailed" it is implied this "we" is a collective.
Apr 29 21:11:14 <thestringpuller>	oops
Apr 29 21:11:17 <mircea_popescu>	dub pff. i always use condoms.
Apr 29 21:11:23 <dub>	prude
Apr 29 21:11:30 <thestringpuller>	quoted here: "We.ve been working hard taking apart and examining the price model"
Apr 29 21:11:33 <thestringpuller>	take 2
Apr 29 21:11:46 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller but what's one to do with the other ?
Apr 29 21:11:47 <dub>	so an occaisional UTI results. deal with it
Apr 29 21:11:58 <mircea_popescu>	dub hehe i am dealing with it.
Apr 29 21:12:00 <dub>	take your vitamins
Apr 29 21:12:05 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I misquoted I'm sorry. I meant the latter.
Apr 29 21:12:17 <thestringpuller>	"We've been working hard..." is the key phrase
Apr 29 21:12:29 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller no i get that part. but what's me having a board / employees to do with the group mindset ?
Apr 29 21:12:56 <thestringpuller>	Don't you all have to agree? Don't you bounce ideas off each other? Or is that still technically individualism?
Apr 29 21:13:14 <taub>	those groups are formed voluntarily
Apr 29 21:13:17 <thestringpuller>	When I think of pure individual contribution I think of people like Tesla.
Apr 29 21:13:22 <taub>	it's not a "everyone has to do their share or else" kinda deal
Apr 29 21:13:29 <mircea_popescu>	but what's "pure individual contribution" to do with anything ?
Apr 29 21:13:46 <ThickAsThieves>	i think mp's point may be when individuals release power of problem solving to a group
Apr 29 21:13:48 <mircea_popescu>	listen, there's kids sitting togetgher in a class. this is ideologically neutral.
Apr 29 21:13:58 <mircea_popescu>	there's kids working on the same homework. this is also ideologically neutral.
Apr 29 21:14:07 <ThickAsThieves>	or maybe rely on group thought?
Apr 29 21:14:22 <mircea_popescu>	if those kids were to go to the teacher and say "We're not doing our homework and you can't punish us cause you'd hacve to punish the whole class", that's socialist bs.
Apr 29 21:14:32 <mircea_popescu>	yet this is the "solution" of idiots since forever.
Apr 29 21:14:35 <deadweasel>	http://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=doc/Bitcoin.php
Apr 29 21:14:56 <mircea_popescu>	in the case at hand, "we will all buy btc and the price can only go up because of it and so we will all become millionaires"
Apr 29 21:15:04 <ThickAsThieves>	but that rgument seems to be used quite often by the right
Apr 29 21:15:09 <mircea_popescu>	they were going to pull themselves up by their own pants.
Apr 29 21:15:14 <taub>	using it already deadweasel :)
Apr 29 21:15:21 <mircea_popescu>	well inasmuch as it is used it's fakeright
Apr 29 21:15:24 <taub>	hope their live trading gets rolled out soon
Apr 29 21:15:30 <deadweasel>	how do you like it?
Apr 29 21:15:37 <kakobrekla>	its gonna suck
Apr 29 21:15:40 <taub>	its good, very stable stream
Apr 29 21:15:44 <kakobrekla>	its gonna be as bad as mtgox
Apr 29 21:15:54 <taub>	well yes, it's just a link to mtgox
Apr 29 21:15:58 <kakobrekla>	exactly
Apr 29 21:16:02 <kakobrekla>	thats why its gonna suck
Apr 29 21:16:03 <mircea_popescu>	heh
Apr 29 21:16:10 <kakobrekla>	gigo
Apr 29 21:16:17 <taub>	but its easier to trade directly off the charts than to log into the site and enter the order every time
Apr 29 21:16:26 <deadweasel>	use goxtool
Apr 29 21:16:34 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu isn't that a different issue altogether, as you state in your fact, "You can't pull yourself up by your own bootstraps"
Apr 29 21:16:38 <thestringpuller>	faq*
Apr 29 21:16:39 <thestringpuller>	WOW
Apr 29 21:16:41 <taub>	somehow buying doesnt work on there for me
Apr 29 21:16:45 <thestringpuller>	can't type today
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Apr 29 21:17:12 <mircea_popescu>	where's the difference
Apr 29 21:17:16 <dub>	sierra should lease an API/socket feed
Apr 29 21:17:18 <deadweasel>	did you put in the api key?  gox --add-secret=
Apr 29 21:17:24 <deadweasel>	goxtoo*
Apr 29 21:17:24 <deadweasel>	l
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Apr 29 21:17:32 <taub>	yea, i can sell, but the buy function doesn't work dunno
Apr 29 21:17:38 <deadweasel>	balls
Apr 29 21:18:07 <deadweasel>	oh well.  i don't trade enought to purchase charting sfotware. but i want it.
Apr 29 21:18:11 <dub>	have you got permissions set in gox?
Apr 29 21:18:35 <dub>	deadweasel: can you run the native feed without paying?
Apr 29 21:18:37 <taub>	yes, the window for order entry doesn't appear
Apr 29 21:18:47 <deadweasel>	using windows?
Apr 29 21:18:56 <taub>	putty
Apr 29 21:19:03 <thestringpuller>	i'm using putty too
Apr 29 21:19:06 <deadweasel>	ya, change to xterm r6
Apr 29 21:19:10 <dub>	dont use putty
Apr 29 21:19:15 <deadweasel>	i forget the settings tab
Apr 29 21:19:17 <dub>	use kitty
Apr 29 21:19:27 <deadweasel>	^ even bettah
Apr 29 21:19:47 <deadweasel>	but if you're already running putty, i know how to fix the keyboard fkeys issue.
Apr 29 21:19:59 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: there is no difference is there? The group came up, with Max Keiser as their defacto leader, "We can pull ourselves up by our belts", whereas that is a physical impossibility, yet people believed it anyways because other people "said it was so". No?
Apr 29 21:20:06 <dub>	kitty is putty
Apr 29 21:20:13 <dub>	putty is no longer maintained
Apr 29 21:20:33 <taub>	i'm already using some putty variant with clickable urls
Apr 29 21:20:41 <deadweasel>	then feed that kitty and putt it across the room!
Apr 29 21:21:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00072615 = 3.776 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:21:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.000725 = 1.6675 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:24:20 <taub>	doesn't work in kitty :[
Apr 29 21:24:36 <thestringpuller>	Good news mircea_popescu: "Facebook Is Losing Millions Of Users In The US And Other Mature Markets"
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Apr 29 21:26:27 <nospinzy>	I WONDER WHY
Apr 29 21:26:43 <nospinzy>	cause all the narsasists have taken over
Apr 29 21:26:50 <taub>	okay i got it working deadweasel, had to change the keyboard settings, ty
Apr 29 21:26:51 <nospinzy>	and making people rage quit
Apr 29 21:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 21:27:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.41 = 2.82 BTC [+]
Apr 29 21:27:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.4588 = 2.9176 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 21:27:48 <ThickAsThieves>	how doe facebook lose users anyway? people actually take the time to close accounts?
Apr 29 21:28:20 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1978520#msg1978520
Apr 29 21:28:21 <mircea_popescu>	good q.
Apr 29 21:28:21 <nospinzy>	analytics
Apr 29 21:28:31 <nospinzy>	you can see how many people come to your website...
Apr 29 21:28:38 <nospinzy>	its pretty basic
Apr 29 21:29:04 <thestringpuller>	;;seen smickles
Apr 29 21:29:04 <gribble>	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 4 days, 9 hours, 46 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Apr 29 21:29:09 <thestringpuller>	lol
Apr 29 21:30:14 <thestringpuller>	ThickAsThieves: people go inactive, someone not logging in for X time is considered the same as losing a user to the social media world.
Apr 29 21:30:19 <thestringpuller>	as it depends on an active user base
Apr 29 21:30:33 <ThickAsThieves>	then they should just comment on user activity
Apr 29 21:30:36 <ThickAsThieves>	not user loss
Apr 29 21:30:53 <ThickAsThieves>	but i get it i guess
Apr 29 21:32:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 21:33:01 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: idea: the gold in the casascius coin is a TEOTWAWKI "backup."
Apr 29 21:34:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2799 BTC [+]
Apr 29 21:35:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 21:38:18 <mircea_popescu>	well it'd have to be the end of PART of the world then
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Apr 29 21:38:39 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2799 = 2.5598 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:38:54 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: new idea. 7.62x39mm round with built-in BTC chip.
Apr 29 21:38:57 *	da2ce7_d is now known as da2ce7
Apr 29 21:39:48 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: for those who await the lead, rather than the gold, standard.
Apr 29 21:40:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 29 21:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	dude copumpkin is a twitter badass. check out what he dug up
Apr 29 21:40:55 <mircea_popescu>	http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/sexism-definition/
Apr 29 21:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	Sexism is both discrimination based on gender and the attitudes, stereotypes, and the cultural elements that promote this discrimination. Given the historical and continued imbalance of power, where men as a class are privileged over women as a class (see male privilege), an important, but often overlooked, part of the term is that sexism is prejudice plus power. Thus feminists reject the notion that women can be sexis
Apr 29 21:41:04 <mircea_popescu>	t towards men because women lack the institutional power that men have.
Apr 29 21:41:16 <mircea_popescu>	also they reject e=mc2 as a sexed equation,
Apr 29 21:41:30 <mircea_popescu>	because it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are much more important to us.
Apr 29 21:42:27 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: ho hum. there's a whole dark underworld of this crud, esp. in the U.S.; and the perpetrators are often salaried academics and their flunkies.
Apr 29 21:42:56 <mircea_popescu>	salaried pseudoacademics
Apr 29 21:43:21 <mircea_popescu>	doing whatever "social sciences" a la women's research or w/e
Apr 29 21:43:42 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: actual academics mostly went extinct after ww2. (you'll meet the occasional one, preserved, like the occasional panda still alive in some zoo)
Apr 29 21:44:06 <mircea_popescu>	i am currently pining all hopes of universalist humanity on the taleb fellow
Apr 29 21:44:14 <mircea_popescu>	he's been doing off the deep end superbly on twitter.
Apr 29 21:44:43 <dub>	kweli
Apr 29 21:44:46 <dub>	?
Apr 29 21:44:54 <mircea_popescu>	o look, she retweeted me too. dense is she.
Apr 29 21:45:00 <mircea_popescu>	dub nassim taleb
Apr 29 21:45:34 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/328902329015353345 sample
Apr 29 21:46:10 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: on the death of academia: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/07/my-navrozov-moments.html (moldbug)
Apr 29 21:46:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.236 = 4.944 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:46:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2351 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:46:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.23505 = 2.4701 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:46:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.23505 = 2.4701 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:46:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.22 = 2.44 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:47:02 <mircea_popescu>	aww grad school. poor modlbug
Apr 29 21:47:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:47:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.205 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:47:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.202 = 6.01 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:47:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 21:47:29 <orkaa>	hah, nassim
Apr 29 21:47:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:47:31 <dub>	https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-prn1/c0.17.180.180/s160x160/24919_388859208374_202563_a.jpg heh
Apr 29 21:47:34 <orkaa>	i'm reading one of his books
Apr 29 21:47:50 <orkaa>	yeah, this one
Apr 29 21:47:52 <orkaa>	black swan
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Apr 29 21:48:17 <mircea_popescu>	he's a clever fellow.
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Apr 29 21:49:54 <orkaa>	yep, i like how he's questioning everything
Apr 29 21:50:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.459 BTC [+]
Apr 29 21:50:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.45989998 = 2.9198 BTC [+]
Apr 29 21:50:05 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.46496 = 5.8598 BTC [+]
Apr 29 21:50:06 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.46498 = 4.3949 BTC [+]
Apr 29 21:52:57 <kakobrekla>	is he really questioning everything?
Apr 29 21:52:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19021 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:53:00 <mjr___>	i loved antifragile
Apr 29 21:53:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19011 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:53:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.17005 = 5.8503 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:53:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.17 = 5.85 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:53:16 <mjr___>	it just felt so refreshing
Apr 29 21:53:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.16914 = 9.3531 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:53:31 <kakobrekla>	o hey mjr
Apr 29 21:53:33 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.167 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:53:40 <mjr___>	hey guys
Apr 29 21:53:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.165 = 5.825 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:53:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.164 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:53:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.152 = 21.888 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:54:01 <kakobrekla>	where have you been, you missed like 5 dudes rolling by on their skateboards announcing new exchanges
Apr 29 21:55:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.152 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:55:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1512 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:55:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1512 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:55:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.1511 = 8.0577 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:55:23 <mjr___>	kakobrekla: "The skateboard ride to Saks today was a little rough, but the skateboard back was great!" I am not joking that is the latest status update from coinsetter CEO...he's a nice guy
Apr 29 21:55:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.151 = 2.302 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:55:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.150101 = 11.501 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:55:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.1501 = 11.501 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:55:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:55:48 <mjr___>	but i can't help but laugh after our convo in romania lol
Apr 29 21:55:51 <mircea_popescu>	he sounds like permafriendzoned
Apr 29 21:55:59 <kakobrekla>	WTF really?!
Apr 29 21:56:06 <kakobrekla>	poor guy
Apr 29 21:56:09 <mjr___>	i am not joking
Apr 29 21:56:18 <mjr___>	he's cool, he's in nyc
Apr 29 21:56:20 <kakobrekla>	you met him?
Apr 29 21:56:23 <mjr___>	yeah
Apr 29 21:56:25 <kakobrekla>	when
Apr 29 21:56:36 <mjr___>	we were talking about working together, but couldn't get the equity to work...
Apr 29 21:56:44 <mjr___>	he already had prior investors etcf
Apr 29 21:56:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.13205 = 5.6603 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:56:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.132 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:56:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.13 = 3.39 BTC [-]
Apr 29 21:57:00 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 29 21:57:10 <mjr___>	they are opening sometime this summer i think?
Apr 29 21:57:41 <mjr___>	but mostly focusing on the shorting/margin side, from what i know...jaron from coinsetter
Apr 29 21:57:54 <grubles>	im selling my mpex account
Apr 29 21:57:57 <grubles>	if anyone is wanting one
Apr 29 21:58:01 <grubles>	there are no assets in it
Apr 29 21:58:34 <grubles>	it is mostly to get out of paying the ridiculous 30 btc fee
Apr 29 21:58:38 <mjr___>	https://kirillwashere.com/galleries/set-miami-april-25/photos/13384 <--- why i love and hate america
Apr 29 21:58:46 <kakobrekla>	mjr___ are they using gox or what
Apr 29 21:58:51 <mjr___>	grubles, how much?
Apr 29 21:59:18 <mjr___>	also...how would you guarantee you won't retain the key?
Apr 29 22:00:21 <mjr___>	kakobrekla: not sure, but we just got market data working and order flow
Apr 29 22:01:24 <truffles>	whats on the radio now mjr?
Apr 29 22:02:25 <mjr___>	Gods and Monsters by Lana Del Rey
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Apr 29 22:03:46 <truffles>	:)
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Apr 29 22:05:54 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.000725 = 20.3363 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 22:13:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13112 BTC [+]
Apr 29 22:13:22 <truffles>	Lana Del Rey - Summertime Sadness very nice
Apr 29 22:13:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13102 BTC [-]
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Apr 29 22:14:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.13 = 2.26 BTC [-]
Apr 29 22:15:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.13 = 3.39 BTC [-]
Apr 29 22:20:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2397 BTC [+]
Apr 29 22:20:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2398 BTC [+]
Apr 29 22:20:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.24 = 14.88 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 22:26:22 <grubles>	mircea_popescu,
Apr 29 22:26:28 <grubles>	you around broseph
Apr 29 22:30:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2489 BTC [+]
Apr 29 22:31:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.249 BTC [+]
Apr 29 22:31:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [+]
Apr 29 22:35:23 <dub>	hrm, got an ex specops buddy traveling to italy next week, should get him to pay alberto a visit
Apr 29 22:36:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 22:48:37 <mircea_popescu>	yeh
Apr 29 22:48:43 <mircea_popescu>	grubles sup
Apr 29 22:50:31 <mjr___>	mircea_popescu: hey what up
Apr 29 22:50:44 <mircea_popescu>	nothing much
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Apr 29 23:26:30 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: you are one of my favorite people
Apr 29 23:26:39 <thestringpuller>	if I bring you women can I hang out with you in Romania?
Apr 29 23:26:40 <thestringpuller>	:D
Apr 29 23:26:48 <thestringpuller>	I need a vacation...
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Apr 29 23:36:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2599 BTC [+]
Apr 29 23:37:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.26 = 3.78 BTC [+]
Apr 29 23:38:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [+]
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Apr 29 23:43:37 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 29 23:44:26 <grubles>	y u laffin
Apr 29 23:44:55 <grubles>	asicminer price?
Apr 29 23:45:25 <mircea_popescu>	the guy and his women
Apr 29 23:45:45 <grubles>	he is offering you women
Apr 29 23:45:52 <grubles>	why must you laugh
Apr 29 23:46:53 <mircea_popescu>	im just that sorta guy.
Apr 29 23:47:20 <grubles>	what, homo?
Apr 29 23:51:21 <mircea_popescu>	no homo
Apr 29 23:51:57 <thestringpuller>	so deal, 3 women for 1 night stay?
Apr 29 23:51:59 <thestringpuller>	lololol
Apr 29 23:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
Apr 29 23:52:10 <thestringpuller>	(it feels like medieval times)
Apr 29 23:53:10 <grubles>	you can stay at my place if you have 3 women
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Apr 29 23:55:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.679 = 1.358 BTC [+]
Apr 29 23:57:52 <mircea_popescu>	where you gonna find 3 womenz.
Apr 29 23:58:42 *	Sin|CRUNK is now known as Sinbios
Apr 29 23:59:28 <grubles>	strip bar
Apr 29 23:59:51 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBkYdUgl3-M&feature=player_embedded
Apr 30 00:00:18 <grubles>	mircea is yes homo
Apr 30 00:00:32 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: I will go to a mall, and promise 18 year olds louis vatton bags in exchange for me introducing them to mircea_popescu
Apr 30 00:01:04 <thestringpuller>	doesn't take a solution like MPEX to get da ladiez
Apr 30 00:01:39 <grubles>	they have malls in romania?
Apr 30 00:01:53 <grubles>	i figured romania was like a walmart parking lot
Apr 30 00:02:15 <mircea_popescu>	Vat on!
Apr 30 00:02:15 <grubles>	with the rich elite having RVs parked there for weeks
Apr 30 00:02:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 00:08:35 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en-US#q=%22bitcoin%22
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Apr 30 00:11:44 <joecool>	not too big in nigeria
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Apr 30 00:17:27 <thestrin1puller>	waa
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Apr 30 00:19:49 <thestringpuller>	;;seen mircea_popescu
Apr 30 00:19:50 <gribble>	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 minutes and 14 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> http://www.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en-US#q=%22bitcoin%22
Apr 30 00:22:34 <thestringpuller>	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2167CprO1rnabkso1_1280.jpg
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Apr 30 00:30:34 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en-US#q=%22bitcoin%22%2C%20obama&cmpt=q
Apr 30 00:30:37 <mircea_popescu>	soon we'll cross obama.
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Apr 30 00:36:35 <KRS-1>	he can go to hell
Apr 30 00:37:39 <KRS-1>	and he is a degenerate
Apr 30 00:37:55 <KRS-1>	thats all.
Apr 30 00:38:00 <KRS-1>	for now.
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Apr 30 00:48:31 <mjr___>	;;tell
Apr 30 00:48:31 <gribble>	(tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here.
Apr 30 00:48:43 <mjr___>	;;tell mircea_popescu Palihapitiya talked disdainfully about an instant messaging app that allows you to send photos of everything from an apple orchard to your genitalia, and that the message disappears after a short period of time
Apr 30 00:48:43 <gribble>	Error: I haven't seen mircea_popescu, I'll let you do the telling.
Apr 30 00:49:09 <mjr___>	;;say
Apr 30 00:49:09 <gribble>	(say <channel|nick> <text>) -- Sends <text> to <channel|nick>. Can only send to <nick> if supybot.plugins.Anonymous.allowPrivateTarget is True.
Apr 30 00:49:22 <mjr___>	;;say mircea_popescu Palihapitiya talked disdainfully about an instant messaging app that allows you to send photos of everything from an apple orchard to your genitalia, and that the message disappears after a short period of time
Apr 30 00:49:22 <gribble>	Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
Apr 30 00:56:50 <mjr___>	Palihapitiya talked disdainfully about an instant messaging app that allows you to send photos of everything from an apple orchard to your genitalia, and that the message disappears after a short period of time
Apr 30 00:58:01 <joecool>	;;later tell mjr___ you're doing it wrong
Apr 30 00:58:01 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 30 00:58:26 <mjr___>	;;later tell mircea_popescu Palihapitiya talked disdainfully about an instant messaging app that allows you to send photos of everything from an apple orchard to your genitalia, and that the message disappears after a short period of time
Apr 30 00:58:27 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 30 00:58:31 <mjr___>	yay, thanks joecool
Apr 30 00:59:10 <joecool>	also protip, more annoying /memoserv send mircea_popescu whatever you wanna say
Apr 30 00:59:17 <joecool>	that's a network service :P
Apr 30 00:59:30 <mjr___>	why is it more annoying?
Apr 30 00:59:42 <joecool>	because it works whether or not gribble sees you
Apr 30 00:59:46 <mjr___>	hahaha
Apr 30 00:59:48 <mjr___>	oh
Apr 30 01:02:50 <mjr___>	i like that silicon valley is getting sick of these stupid kids
Apr 30 01:03:08 <mjr___>	and saying "an app that sends pics that disappear after 5 seconds is stupid"
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Apr 30 01:47:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8391 @ 0.00076489 = 6.4182 BTC [+]
Apr 30 01:47:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5909 @ 0.00074626 = 4.4097 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 02:04:13 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 997 @ 0.00343999 = 3.4297 BTC [+]
Apr 30 02:04:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1003 @ 0.00343999 = 3.4503 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 02:14:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.245 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 02:19:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 13 @ 0.0036 = 0.0468 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 02:24:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2595 = 2.519 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 02:41:30 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.36874 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 03:31:27 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 04:26:22 <bitexchanger>	Who is selling what?
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Apr 30 04:30:20 <Technologov>	hi dudes ! Any assets here?
Apr 30 04:30:26 <Technologov>	Any stock shares ?
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Apr 30 04:32:09 <dub>	I herd yo momma slangin rock
Apr 30 04:33:17 <bitexchanger>	139 people in a channel called assets and nobody is selling any assets?
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Apr 30 05:01:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1999 = 0.5997 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 05:02:09 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dcn95/bitcoin_online_bank_idea/ << someone wants to play banker again?
Apr 30 05:02:10 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Apr 30 05:04:43 <Technologov>	bank = exchange ? (we have Mt.Gox)
Apr 30 05:04:56 <Technologov>	bank = lender? This will fail, due to deflationary currency.
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Apr 30 05:06:01 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3962 @ 0.00076528 = 3.032 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 05:12:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2595 = 2.519 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 05:26:18 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 30 05:26:19 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 59.0473661 / 191.28391806 / 197.76214913 (639 shares, 153.26 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 30 05:31:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2411 BTC [-]
Apr 30 05:31:22 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.231 BTC [-]
Apr 30 05:31:33 <Diablo-D3>	http://nsnbc.me/2013/04/18/federal-reserve-refuses-to-submit-to-an-audit-of-germanys-gold-held-in-u-s-vaults-2/
Apr 30 05:31:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
Apr 30 05:31:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21001 BTC [-]
Apr 30 05:31:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
Apr 30 05:31:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 05:34:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 06:12:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5066 @ 0.00076528 = 3.8769 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 06:29:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
Apr 30 06:31:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.422 BTC [-]
Apr 30 06:31:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.42101 = 1.263 BTC [-]
Apr 30 06:33:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [+]
Apr 30 06:33:56 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [+]
Apr 30 06:34:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2595 = 2.519 BTC [+]
Apr 30 06:34:05 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [+]
Apr 30 06:34:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [+]
Apr 30 06:43:37 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00076208 = 6.2491 BTC [-]
Apr 30 06:43:39 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4363 @ 0.00075723 = 3.3038 BTC [-]
Apr 30 06:43:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36541 @ 0.00074626 = 27.2691 BTC [-]
Apr 30 06:43:42 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00074215 = 8.2379 BTC [-]
Apr 30 06:43:44 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00073665 = 7.9927 BTC [-]
Apr 30 06:43:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.00073199 = 2.57 BTC [-]
Apr 30 06:43:56 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25435 @ 0.000725 = 18.4404 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 06:59:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 07:12:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22565 BTC [-]
Apr 30 07:12:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22555 BTC [-]
Apr 30 07:13:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.225 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 07:20:01 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25979 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:20:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25989 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:20:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.26 = 7.56 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:20:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2679 = 3.8037 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:20:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.268 = 2.536 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:20:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.285 = 3.855 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:20:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.287 = 2.574 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:21:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2875 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:21:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.29 = 2.58 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:21:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2945 = 2.589 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:21:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.295 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:21:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:21:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1.29998 = 23.3996 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:21:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.29998 = 10.3998 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 07:48:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2334 @ 0.00073472 = 1.7148 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 07:54:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2689 BTC [-]
Apr 30 07:54:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269 BTC [+]
Apr 30 07:57:38 <kakobrekla>	hi
Apr 30 07:59:41 <deadweasel>	hi
Apr 30 07:59:48 <deadweasel>	o/
Apr 30 08:00:38 <kakobrekla>	so
Apr 30 08:00:42 <kakobrekla>	fun fact of the day
Apr 30 08:00:52 <kakobrekla>	i have a position opened at btc.sx
Apr 30 08:00:55 <kakobrekla>	with negative balance
Apr 30 08:00:59 <kakobrekla>	yaaay!
Apr 30 08:03:28 <deadweasel>	interesting, how did you manage that?
Apr 30 08:05:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8998 BTC [-]
Apr 30 08:08:06 <kakobrekla>	not sure
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Apr 30 08:10:14 <truffles>	how've you been deadweasel
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Apr 30 08:10:48 <deadweasel>	good truf, how about yourself?
Apr 30 08:11:15 <deadweasel>	that's a good article the FED gold scandal.  I'm pretty sure they found some tungsten bars plated with gold recently.
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Apr 30 08:11:49 <deadweasel>	kakobrekla, if you like negative balances, try coinbase!  :D
Apr 30 08:12:00 <kakobrekla>	i like anti-bitcoins
Apr 30 08:12:12 <truffles>	ive been well thanks
Apr 30 08:12:18 <truffles>	i have yet to master the driving manual
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Apr 30 08:23:21 <thestringpuller>	kakobrekla and mircea_popescu are the same person
Apr 30 08:23:28 <thestringpuller>	dun dun duuuuun
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Apr 30 08:32:35 <truffles>	<thestringpuller> kakobrekla and mircea_popescu are the same person>>> not possible
Apr 30 08:34:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.8998 = 3.7996 BTC [-]
Apr 30 08:35:51 <KRS-1>	No, mircea_popescu clearly has more class.
Apr 30 08:37:39 <truffles>	and more unstable
Apr 30 08:37:52 <KRS-1>	Plus he's secksy
Apr 30 08:38:10 <truffles>	too skinny
Apr 30 08:38:24 <KRS-1>	If I walked around town like he does with my shirt opened I'd probably get arrested.
Apr 30 08:38:34 <KRS-1>	He can actually pull that off.
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Apr 30 08:39:33 <ThickAsThieves>	;;bc,stats
Apr 30 08:39:36 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233903 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 1968 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 20 hours, 31 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10439563.7159 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.6052
Apr 30 08:39:55 <ThickAsThieves>	yay a milestone
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Apr 30 08:41:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4698 = 0.9396 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 08:41:40 <error4733>	;;next
Apr 30 08:41:41 <gribble>	targets: 150, 160-164 | resistance: 136, 140 | support: 120, 118-114, 106-103 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 28 2013, 00:29 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 days, 12 hours, 12 minutes, and 39 seconds ago
Apr 30 08:41:50 <error4733>	;;ticker
Apr 30 08:41:51 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.86000, Best ask: 145.88868, Bid-ask spread: 0.02868, Last trade: 145.88868, 24 hour volume: 52774.55145091, 24 hour low: 140.50000, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 144.43289
Apr 30 08:41:57 <error4733>	!bids 101
Apr 30 08:42:01 <error4733>	;;bids 101
Apr 30 08:42:04 <gribble>	There are currently 56503.831 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 6923090.22867 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0083 seconds
Apr 30 08:42:06 <error4733>	;;asks 199
Apr 30 08:42:07 <gribble>	There are currently 69644.598 bitcoins offered at or under 199.0 USD, worth 11661420.0121 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.9826 seconds
Apr 30 08:43:21 <KRS-1>	when it says "support:" is that the lower-bound- that the price wont fall below
Apr 30 08:43:30 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5649 @ 0.00073215 = 4.1359 BTC [-]
Apr 30 08:43:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.0007432 = 0.6689 BTC [+]
Apr 30 08:43:38 <KRS-1>	and the opposite for "resistance"
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Apr 30 08:47:15 <thestringpuller>	;;next
Apr 30 08:47:15 <gribble>	targets: 150, 160-164 | resistance: 136, 140 | support: 120, 118-114, 106-103 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 28 2013, 00:29 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 days, 12 hours, 18 minutes, and 14 seconds ago
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Apr 30 08:48:50 <thestringpuller>	KRS-1: yea, the bid depth
Apr 30 08:49:19 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 10000
Apr 30 08:49:19 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 1397470.9135 USD and would take the last price down to 135.6076 USD, resulting in an average price of 139.7471 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 53.4642 seconds
Apr 30 08:49:30 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 100000
Apr 30 08:49:31 <gribble>	A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 10589892.1644 USD and would take the last price down to 70.6183 USD, resulting in an average price of 105.8989 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 64.6405 seconds
Apr 30 08:49:39 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 50000
Apr 30 08:49:40 <gribble>	A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 6255951.3078 USD and would take the last price down to 106.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 125.1190 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 73.4654 seconds
Apr 30 08:49:47 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 30000
Apr 30 08:49:47 <gribble>	A market order to sell 30000 bitcoins right now would net 3948122.9843 USD and would take the last price down to 121.2623 USD, resulting in an average price of 131.6041 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 81.1408 seconds
Apr 30 08:49:58 <thestringpuller>	sorry for spam :(
Apr 30 08:51:08 <KRS-1>	thank you-
Apr 30 08:53:10 <kakobrekla>	!l m s.dice
Apr 30 08:53:11 <assbot>	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00343999 BTC [+]
Apr 30 08:53:16 <kakobrekla>	pft
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Apr 30 08:58:45 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 30 08:58:46 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.11000, Best ask: 145.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 145.11000, 24 hour volume: 47837.38617961, 24 hour low: 140.50000, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 144.23882
Apr 30 08:59:40 <error4733>	mp gribble if you want ;)
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Apr 30 09:08:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Apr 30 09:09:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.29999 = 7.7999 BTC [+]
Apr 30 09:11:18 <kakobrekla>	http://shrani.si/f/3Y/oR/t9R1up2/position.png
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Apr 30 09:16:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29999 BTC [+]
Apr 30 09:17:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8998 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 09:21:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.321 = 0.642 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 09:23:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.321 BTC [+]
Apr 30 09:23:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.321 BTC [+]
Apr 30 09:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.321 = 0.642 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 09:31:08 <Chaang-Noi>	zup ya pervz ya
Apr 30 09:32:36 <truffles>	hi
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Apr 30 09:38:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4951 @ 0.00074901 = 3.7083 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 09:45:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.471 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 09:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.8998 = 18.998 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 09:52:59 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25537321 = 1255.3732 BTC
Apr 30 09:53:40 <ThickAsThieves>	uh oh
Apr 30 09:55:10 <ThickAsThieves>	hrm
Apr 30 09:55:16 <ThickAsThieves>	those are already break even
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Apr 30 09:56:09 <ThickAsThieves>	someone made and sold to bot
Apr 30 09:56:13 <ThickAsThieves>	interesting
Apr 30 09:57:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25521432 = 1255.2143 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 09:59:57 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 30 09:59:58 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 142.17
Apr 30 10:01:05 <ThickAsThieves>	How does the bot handle options it buys? Does it ever excercise, or try to resell? If it excercises, does it wait for a certain % of profit?
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Apr 30 10:01:19 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29998 BTC [-]
Apr 30 10:02:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01005 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 10:03:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.0101 = 0.1515 BTC [+]
Apr 30 10:06:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]
Apr 30 10:06:28 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25457896 = 1254.579 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 10:07:54 <mircea_popescu>	"I dont know if something like this has been talked about but im sure it has crossed peoples minds.
Apr 30 10:07:54 <mircea_popescu>	Why doesnt someone open an online bitcoin bank? It could have a nice online interface"
Apr 30 10:08:04 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller totally. a nice interface.
Apr 30 10:08:20 <mircea_popescu>	it would be a website that's a bank and has a nice interface. whatcouldpossibly.pdf
Apr 30 10:08:53 <ThickAsThieves>	we could call it blockchain.info
Apr 30 10:09:36 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 1000 @ 0.15528424 = 155.2842 BTC [-]
Apr 30 10:09:42 <mircea_popescu>	o hey.
Apr 30 10:09:52 <mircea_popescu>	$avg ^oix
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Apr 30 10:10:25 <mircea_popescu>	hm what was it
Apr 30 10:10:30 <jborkl>	or we could call it mpex
Apr 30 10:10:33 <mircea_popescu>	$price ^oix
Apr 30 10:10:38 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck
Apr 30 10:10:43 <ThickAsThieves>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 30 10:10:44 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 59.0473661 / 191.28391806 / 197.76214913 (639 shares, 153.26 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Apr 30 10:10:54 <ThickAsThieves>	$avg
Apr 30 10:10:54 <mpexbot>	ThickAsThieves: 142.03
Apr 30 10:11:03 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl no because interface.
Apr 30 10:11:15 <jborkl>	oh, I like the interface
Apr 30 10:11:22 <jborkl>	very simple
Apr 30 10:11:24 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap ^oix
Apr 30 10:11:25 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 191.28391806 high: 197.76214913 low: 59.0473661 volume: 639 btc: 153.26152721 30 day: no data
Apr 30 10:11:39 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl it's not nice! stop trolling da reddit folk! you're a jerk!
Apr 30 10:11:56 <ThickAsThieves>	How does the bot handle options it buys? Does it ever excercise, or try to resell? If it excercises, does it wait for a certain % of profit?
Apr 30 10:11:57 <jborkl>	I missed something here, lol
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Apr 30 10:12:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25680427 = 1256.8043 BTC [+]
Apr 30 10:12:13 <mircea_popescu>	my sarcasm :D
Apr 30 10:12:25 <mircea_popescu>	whoa nelly.
Apr 30 10:12:31 <ThickAsThieves>	thats the 4th sell
Apr 30 10:12:36 <mircea_popescu>	what srsly ?
Apr 30 10:12:49 <mircea_popescu>	hey, somebody
Apr 30 10:12:53 <mircea_popescu>	's taking some serious positions.
Apr 30 10:13:07 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves the bot always tries to resell. that's why it always quotes both ends.
Apr 30 10:13:12 <mircea_popescu>	it sometimes exercises.
Apr 30 10:13:43 <ThickAsThieves>	so couldnt the bot just excercise these new puts and close this guys position
Apr 30 10:13:51 <mircea_popescu>	it could, yes.
Apr 30 10:13:55 <ThickAsThieves>	odd
Apr 30 10:14:06 <mircea_popescu>	why ?
Apr 30 10:14:30 <mircea_popescu>	;;netstat
Apr 30 10:14:30 <gribble>	Error: "netstat" is not a valid command.
Apr 30 10:14:33 <ThickAsThieves>	odd that he would sell those puts
Apr 30 10:14:38 <ThickAsThieves>	not odd that the bit would ex
Apr 30 10:14:39 <jborkl>	mostly put - this month put 320,s
Apr 30 10:14:41 <ThickAsThieves>	bot*
Apr 30 10:14:48 <ThickAsThieves>	[09:52] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25537321 = 1255.3732 BTC
Apr 30 10:14:48 <ThickAsThieves>	[09:56] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25521432 = 1255.2143 BTC [-]
Apr 30 10:14:48 <ThickAsThieves>	[10:05] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25457896 = 1254.579 BTC [-]
Apr 30 10:14:48 <ThickAsThieves>	[10:11] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 1000 @ 1.25680427 = 1256.8043 BTC [+]
Apr 30 10:14:51 <mircea_popescu>	those are the max
Apr 30 10:15:14 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 1000 @ 0.1543468 = 154.3468 BTC [-]
Apr 30 10:15:29 <mircea_popescu>	hm
Apr 30 10:15:33 <ThickAsThieves>	those are already in the money right?
Apr 30 10:15:41 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 320 / 2.255
Apr 30 10:15:41 <gribble>	141.906873614
Apr 30 10:15:45 <ThickAsThieves>	so why sell those puts to the bot
Apr 30 10:15:48 <mircea_popescu>	whoa look at this!
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Apr 30 10:16:02 <mircea_popescu>	so sold puts short, their break even is ~142, so also sold calls short at 143
Apr 30 10:16:14 <mircea_popescu>	basically this is an insured long play.
Apr 30 10:16:25 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap O.USD.P320T
Apr 30 10:16:26 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: O.USD.P320T 1 day: average: 1.25549269 high: 1.25680427 low: 1.25457896 volume: 4000 btc: 5021.97076 7 day: average: 1.25549269 high: 1.25680427 low: 1.25457896 volume: 4000 btc: 5021.97076 30 day: average: 1.25549269 high: 1.25680427 low: 1.25457896 volume: 4000 btc: 5021.97076
Apr 30 10:16:39 <mircea_popescu>	$vwap O.USD.C143T
Apr 30 10:16:41 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: O.USD.C143T 1 day: average: 0.15481552 high: 0.15528424 low: 0.1543468 volume: 2000 btc: 309.63104 7 day: average: 0.15481552 high: 0.15528424 low: 0.1543468 volume: 2000 btc: 309.63104 30 day: average: 0.18907858 high: 0.275176 low: 0.1543468 volume: 5375 btc: 1016.2973877
Apr 30 10:16:56 <mircea_popescu>	heh. i bet you there's two more sets of 143 on the pipe.
Apr 30 10:16:58 <jborkl>	this months 143c price is only .15?
Apr 30 10:17:05 <ThickAsThieves>	no
Apr 30 10:17:09 <ThickAsThieves>	thats someone selling to bot
Apr 30 10:17:14 <jborkl>	oh yeah, nm
Apr 30 10:17:14 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl bid side.
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Apr 30 10:17:40 <mircea_popescu>	so basically if price stays over 143 makes money on the puts, if goes a little under makes money on the calls to somewhat compensate.
Apr 30 10:18:12 <ThickAsThieves>	except that bot could close him before he does
Apr 30 10:18:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 1000 @ 0.15465646 = 154.6565 BTC [+]
Apr 30 10:18:29 <mircea_popescu>	yeah.
Apr 30 10:18:58 <mircea_popescu>	whiplash can be a serious problem for this position, so i guess it implicitly is a bet against whiplash
Apr 30 10:19:22 <mircea_popescu>	course... the bot could be closing him the other way too, ie, to protect itself. and since whiplash can go both ways
Apr 30 10:19:32 <mircea_popescu>	i suppose technically it's a bet that the bot closes correctly.
Apr 30 10:19:53 <mircea_popescu>	for an unspecified value of "correctly"
Apr 30 10:20:24 <ThickAsThieves>	i shoulda out bid the bot for the calls if i wanted some
Apr 30 10:20:28 <ThickAsThieves>	:/
Apr 30 10:20:47 <mircea_popescu>	the golden rule of mpex is "it always pays to have positions in the book"
Apr 30 10:20:52 <mircea_popescu>	as the veterans can tell you.
Apr 30 10:21:14 <jcpham>	derp
Apr 30 10:21:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 100 @ 0.15465646 = 15.4656 BTC [+]
Apr 30 10:21:35 <ThickAsThieves>	there
Apr 30 10:21:36 <ThickAsThieves>	:)
Apr 30 10:23:04 <jcpham>	http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2013/02/path.shtm
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Apr 30 10:24:44 <mircea_popescu>	http://bitbet.us/bet/439/bitcoin-bigger-/
Apr 30 10:24:47 <mircea_popescu>	haha check out this one
Apr 30 10:27:04 <jborkl>	it it clear what the puts were opened for now
Apr 30 10:27:36 <ThickAsThieves>	thats a big dump
Apr 30 10:28:11 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 48 @ 0.152 = 7.296 BTC [-]
Apr 30 10:28:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 852 @ 0.14277256 = 121.6422 BTC [-]
Apr 30 10:28:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 35000 @ 0.00100005 = 35.0018 BTC [-]
Apr 30 10:28:35 <ThickAsThieves>	well then
Apr 30 10:28:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [-]
Apr 30 10:28:41 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.00099999 = 2 BTC [-]
Apr 30 10:28:46 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.00199994 = 0.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 10:30:08 <ThickAsThieves>	SR is shut down
Apr 30 10:30:14 <ThickAsThieves>	somewhat temporarily
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Apr 30 10:30:44 <mircea_popescu>	o ?
Apr 30 10:30:45 <error4733>	;;goxlag
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Apr 30 10:30:52 <gribble>	MtGox lag is 56.21932 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.112662887817 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Apr 30 10:31:11 <ThickAsThieves>	apparently site is under attack
Apr 30 10:31:22 <ThickAsThieves>	and tor cant protect it without a change
Apr 30 10:31:49 <error4733>	every1 on BlackMarketreload :)
Apr 30 10:32:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.33479993 = 0.6696 BTC [+]
Apr 30 10:32:16 <ThickAsThieves>	selling all those puts doesnt fit with this big dump though, right?
Apr 30 10:33:31 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 30 10:33:32 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.12000, Best ask: 140.75000, Bid-ask spread: 1.63000, Last trade: 140.75000, 24 hour volume: 44073.82016531, 24 hour low: 137.45000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 143.02747
Apr 30 10:33:38 <mircea_popescu>	heh. not rly.
Apr 30 10:35:28 <jborkl>	I think I have it figured out, and it is pretty damn smart. If not, I am going to do it
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Apr 30 10:35:53 <mircea_popescu>	jborkl do what ?
Apr 30 10:36:20 <jborkl>	What I think they are doing ..
Apr 30 10:37:13 <ThickAsThieves>	[10:34] <jborkl> I think I have it figured out, and it is pretty damn smart. If not, I am going to do it  <--- so if it's dumb you're gonna join in?
Apr 30 10:37:32 <ThickAsThieves>	lemme see
Apr 30 10:37:35 <ThickAsThieves>	the sell the puts
Apr 30 10:37:39 <ThickAsThieves>	buy calls
Apr 30 10:37:43 <ThickAsThieves>	dump the btc
Apr 30 10:37:47 <mircea_popescu>	nah cause sold both
Apr 30 10:37:52 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
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Apr 30 10:38:55 <ThickAsThieves>	is the goal to stabilize the price?
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Apr 30 10:39:59 <ThickAsThieves>	if selling both, he wants neother to be profitable for the buyer
Apr 30 10:40:12 <ThickAsThieves>	neither*
Apr 30 10:40:24 <ThickAsThieves>	is that a safe assumption?
Apr 30 10:40:29 <mircea_popescu>	;;bcstats
Apr 30 10:40:32 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233918 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 1953 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, 57 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10612270.0477 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.31919
Apr 30 10:40:51 <mircea_popescu>	nanotube ^ E7 :D
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Apr 30 10:41:15 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves i would imagine his thinking is that price is going up, so sold the puts, and in the case it goes a little under has the calls to pay him
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Apr 30 10:42:05 <ThickAsThieves>	so the dump is coincidence?
Apr 30 10:42:43 <mircea_popescu>	well probably.
Apr 30 10:42:49 <mircea_popescu>	for that matter, the puts/calls could be coincidence
Apr 30 10:42:54 <mircea_popescu>	ie, two diff people doing it at the same time
Apr 30 10:44:27 <ThickAsThieves>	too many coincidences in that case, imo
Apr 30 10:44:58 <mircea_popescu>	i think in the future bitcoin will make THE BEST detective/mystery stories
Apr 30 10:45:03 <ThickAsThieves>	not that superstition is the best financial strategy
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Apr 30 10:45:47 <ThickAsThieves>	i'm just glad i got some affordable calls
Apr 30 10:46:04 <ThickAsThieves>	probly a sign that i'm the sucker in the room...
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Apr 30 10:47:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8999 BTC [+]
Apr 30 10:47:07 <mircea_popescu>	$depth O.USD.C143T
Apr 30 10:47:08 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: O.USD.C143T Bids: ['400 @ 0.155', '1000 @ 0.14212607', '1000 @ 0.14212607']
Apr 30 10:47:09 <mpexbot>	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.30647073', '1000 @ 0.30647073']
Apr 30 10:47:16 <mircea_popescu>	i dunno, everyone seems to want them
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Apr 30 10:48:28 <ThickAsThieves>	FF
Apr 30 10:48:57 <ThickAsThieves>	(fast fingers)
Apr 30 10:50:16 <ThickAsThieves>	what kind of collateral is need to write puts like that
Apr 30 10:50:29 <ThickAsThieves>	or is it done by peeps with credit accounts
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Apr 30 10:54:04 <mircea_popescu>	thousands of btc and who knows, maybe.
Apr 30 10:56:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.8601 = 18.601 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 11:02:57 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00319322 = 1.1176 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 11:07:33 <ThickAsThieves>	i assume more btc was paid to the seller, than the amount he has up for collateral?
Apr 30 11:08:31 <ThickAsThieves>	my idea is that the moves dont have so much to do with price movement, as accumulating more total btc
Apr 30 11:09:17 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.274 BTC [-]
Apr 30 11:09:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2701 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 11:12:41 <ThickAsThieves>	okay, suppose the actor actually represents a great majority of the highest 5000btc of the bid book on Gox. Couldn't he sell those puts, dump 5000btc into mostly his own bids, driving price lower so he can now buy more btc at the new lower price? As long as he doesnt sell so low that he triggers the bot to excercise, he would be leveraging the btc to get more btc
Apr 30 11:14:06 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu how do you write so quickly
Apr 30 11:14:12 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.000725 = 1.74 BTC [-]
Apr 30 11:14:16 <thestringpuller>	you write like a research paper worth of words a week
Apr 30 11:14:21 <ThickAsThieves>	this theory is obv half-baked, just thinking out loud
Apr 30 11:15:21 <thestringpuller>	ThickAsThieves: it's reasonable but the issue is the puts
Apr 30 11:15:25 <thestringpuller>	right?
Apr 30 11:15:36 <ThickAsThieves>	only if price drops too low
Apr 30 11:15:51 <thestringpuller>	yea but even then you can get whiplash like mircea indicated
Apr 30 11:16:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.4689 BTC [+]
Apr 30 11:16:14 <ThickAsThieves>	maybe that depends on how large of a manipulator the actor really is
Apr 30 11:16:40 <ThickAsThieves>	if they can deal in 5000btc of puts, odds are they are a pretty big deal
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Apr 30 11:19:04 <thestringpuller>	i think you underestimate the sensitive of the market panicking during "moves"
Apr 30 11:19:10 <ThickAsThieves>	there are other holes in my theory though
Apr 30 11:19:12 <thestringpuller>	sensitivity*
Apr 30 11:19:20 <ThickAsThieves>	like why fluff the bid book in this case
Apr 30 11:19:28 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller i have a spare pair of hands
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Apr 30 11:19:40 <mircea_popescu>	<ThickAsThieves> i assume more btc was paid to the seller, than the amount he has up for collateral? << now what sense does this make !?
Apr 30 11:20:03 <ThickAsThieves>	none if i'm wrong
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Apr 30 11:20:17 <thestringpuller>	mircea_popescu: so you have four arms to finger four girls simultaneously
Apr 30 11:20:19 <mircea_popescu>	but the collateral you post is ALWAYS going to be more than what you get selling.
Apr 30 11:20:25 <mircea_popescu>	thestringpuller totally :D
Apr 30 11:20:46 <mircea_popescu>	but yes, i'm an intellectual. we write.
Apr 30 11:20:58 <ThickAsThieves>	but some actors have credit accounts no?
Apr 30 11:20:58 <mircea_popescu>	we read, we write, we process information. modern day mentats.
Apr 30 11:21:07 <mircea_popescu>	ThickAsThieves yeah.
Apr 30 11:21:16 <thestringpuller>	I try to write, but it's difficult to care.
Apr 30 11:21:17 <ThickAsThieves>	so in that case collateral is nil
Apr 30 11:21:37 <mircea_popescu>	well, if you withdraw from a margined account it goes to cover margin first.
Apr 30 11:21:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.289 BTC [+]
Apr 30 11:21:45 <thestringpuller>	in the sense it's difficult to find the right words
Apr 30 11:21:46 <ThickAsThieves>	ah
Apr 30 11:21:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.271 BTC [-]
Apr 30 11:21:49 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2701 BTC [-]
Apr 30 11:22:07 <thestringpuller>	dude I think we're gonna see a bear assembly soon
Apr 30 11:22:16 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 10000
Apr 30 11:22:16 <gribble>	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 1351903.9426 USD and would take the last price down to 132.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 135.1904 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 22.9025 seconds
Apr 30 11:22:19 <mircea_popescu>	<ThickAsThieves> like why fluff the bid book in this case << what's that mean ?
Apr 30 11:22:28 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 20000
Apr 30 11:22:28 <gribble>	A market order to sell 20000 bitcoins right now would net 2637090.8720 USD and would take the last price down to 125.1100 USD, resulting in an average price of 131.8545 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 34.7641 seconds
Apr 30 11:22:37 <thestringpuller>	;;market sell 30000
Apr 30 11:22:38 <gribble>	A market order to sell 30000 bitcoins right now would net 3865234.4410 USD and would take the last price down to 121.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 128.8411 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 44.3863 seconds
Apr 30 11:22:40 <ThickAsThieves>	dont worry, your answers make my theory totally wrong
Apr 30 11:23:17 <mircea_popescu>	kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.msg1985011#msg1985011 epic man.
Apr 30 11:23:21 <mircea_popescu>	just... epic.
Apr 30 11:23:29 <thestringpuller>	:P
Apr 30 11:24:15 <mircea_popescu>	also thestringpuller, you can finger two girls with one hand
Apr 30 11:24:48 <ThickAsThieves>	fingerbangonomics
Apr 30 11:24:51 <thestringpuller>	I've tried too hard.
Apr 30 11:29:34 <thestringpuller>	!ticker m ^OIX
Apr 30 11:29:36 <assbot>	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 59.0473661 / 191.28391806 / 197.76214913 (639 shares, 153.26 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
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Apr 30 11:33:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 24 @ 0.000679 = 0.0163 BTC [+]
Apr 30 11:33:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [RSM] 8 @ 0.0051 = 0.0408 BTC [+]
Apr 30 11:36:28 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187730.0;all
Apr 30 11:36:34 <mircea_popescu>	i find it incredible how much time this person has.
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Apr 30 11:37:29 <ThickAsThieves>	me too
Apr 30 11:37:43 <ThickAsThieves>	i gave up following the whole usagi thing
Apr 30 11:38:12 <ThickAsThieves>	anything that takes that much explaining can't be good
Apr 30 11:38:47 <mircea_popescu>	absolutely.
Apr 30 11:41:06 <jborkl>	all that for 100 oz of silver? so 16 btc market cap :/
Apr 30 11:41:32 <truffles>	<ThickAsThieves> anything that takes that much explaining can't be good>>>> u dont like bitcoin?
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Apr 30 11:46:09 <mircea_popescu>	tyeah
Apr 30 11:46:26 <mircea_popescu>	people somehow miss on this. options trade on mpex today  ? 10k btc or w/e
Apr 30 11:46:36 <mircea_popescu>	usagi silve fund total nominal value ? 16 btc.
Apr 30 11:46:43 <mircea_popescu>	;;calc 10000/16
Apr 30 11:46:43 <gribble>	625
Apr 30 11:46:50 <mircea_popescu>	takes 625 usagis a day.
Apr 30 11:47:33 <jcpham>	http://jcph.am/2013/04/30/tuesday-music-trio/
Apr 30 11:47:42 <jcpham>	listen to some music and forget about bitcoin
Apr 30 11:47:47 <jcpham>	especially the third one
Apr 30 11:47:53 <mircea_popescu>	there's three bitcoins ?
Apr 30 11:47:55 <ThickAsThieves>	truffles, no one had to justify bitocin to me
Apr 30 11:48:07 <jcpham>	yes only three bitcoins left
Apr 30 11:48:12 <jcpham>	act now. limite supplies.
Apr 30 11:48:37 <truffles>	oh its just that you said the difficult of the thing is why youre turned off to it
Apr 30 11:49:32 <ThickAsThieves>	not what i said
Apr 30 11:49:35 <jcpham>	that's a lot of usagis
Apr 30 11:49:35 <ThickAsThieves>	also, context
Apr 30 11:50:28 <ThickAsThieves>	english is not my first language
Apr 30 11:50:33 <mircea_popescu>	what srsly ?!
Apr 30 11:50:47 <ThickAsThieves>	kidding
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Apr 30 11:50:49 <jborkl>	numa numa was just on the radio
Apr 30 11:51:01 <jborkl>	requested for mp
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Apr 30 11:51:51 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 30 11:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.8601 = 7.4404 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 12:01:49 <truffles>	ThickAsThieves sorry, i meant to say i interpreted it that way
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Apr 30 12:06:22 <ThickAsThieves>	no worries, i know i can be a little loose with my words
Apr 30 12:09:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7149 @ 0.000725 = 5.183 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 12:11:59 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-finance-shouldnt-be-open-to-your-average-schmoe/
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Apr 30 12:19:52 <jborkl>	I just went to BTCjam , never go there
Apr 30 12:20:02 <jborkl>	filter by otc - no listings
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Apr 30 12:25:49 <Girlfawkesy>	what about the gox listings?
Apr 30 12:26:03 <Girlfawkesy>	not that I think this is a good idea
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Apr 30 12:31:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.321 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 12:34:52 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 5 @ 0.30452304 = 1.5226 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 12:37:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24061 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:37:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2406 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:37:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.231021 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:37:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.23102 = 6.1551 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:37:59 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.23091 = 3.6927 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:38:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2255 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:38:11 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.2254 = 9.8032 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:38:20 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.225325 = 2.4507 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:38:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.22523 = 2.4505 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:38:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.225 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:38:36 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.217 = 2.434 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:38:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.216957 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:39:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.471 BTC [+]
Apr 30 12:39:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.471699 BTC [+]
Apr 30 12:39:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.216957 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 12:48:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24001 BTC [+]
Apr 30 12:48:13 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 12:50:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 2 @ 0.49662084 = 0.9932 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 12:51:31 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 15000 @ 0.00100005 = 15.0008 BTC [-]
Apr 30 12:51:47 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.00199994 = 0.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 12:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	27s Litecoin followed you 49s Devcoin followed you 1m Namecoin followed you 1m
Apr 30 12:56:55 <mircea_popescu>	PPCoins followed you 1m Bitcoin followed you
Apr 30 12:56:57 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck
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Apr 30 13:00:27 <Girlfawkesy>	you forgot about feathercoins, the latest craze
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Apr 30 13:03:27 <mircea_popescu>	well they forgot about me
Apr 30 13:03:32 <mircea_popescu>	i just got massfollowed by all the coinz
Apr 30 13:06:00 <Girlfawkesy>	too many coins, its a problem
Apr 30 13:10:05 <jcpham>	matonis linked this forbes article full of DPR quotes
Apr 30 13:10:17 <jcpham>	i've been readinf or some time now
Apr 30 13:11:35 <jcpham>	http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/04/29/collected-quotations-of-the-dread-pirate-roberts-founder-of-the-drug-site-silk-road-and-radical-libertarian/3/
Apr 30 13:11:55 <jcpham>	there's a lot. he reads half adult/half child
Apr 30 13:11:59 <jcpham>	like peter pan
Apr 30 13:13:11 <mircea_popescu>	i saw some this morn in my digest
Apr 30 13:13:15 <mircea_popescu>	wasn't too impressed.
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Apr 30 13:15:04 <jcpham>	i'm not going to be surprised to find out SR is run by a kid
Apr 30 13:15:10 <jcpham>	if/when that day comes
Apr 30 13:15:42 <mircea_popescu>	like 16 ? yeah.
Apr 30 13:17:35 <Framedragger>	well, SR used to run a mysqld with debugging mode enabled, so each time there was a DB error (and there were quite a few), users would get a specimen of the system's internals.
Apr 30 13:17:35 <Framedragger>	the internals seemed like a default LAMP stack to me. but afaik this has changed. well if they're a kid, they are surely learning to scale their infrastructure/business etc. :)
Apr 30 13:17:52 <benkay>	death is a downside cost of war? i thought it was a cheap way to get rid of excessively violent youths...
Apr 30 13:18:27 <benkay>	heh.
Apr 30 13:18:41 <benkay>	@ lamp stack
Apr 30 13:18:48 <Framedragger>	but yeah, the agorist sentiments are at a relatively naive level if i may say so. but hey.. :)
Apr 30 13:19:06 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.1602 = 0.6408 BTC [-]
Apr 30 13:19:09 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.1601 = 0.8005 BTC [-]
Apr 30 13:19:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.16 = 0.48 BTC [-]
Apr 30 13:19:15 <Framedragger>	yeah, i'm quite sure that at least it used to be apache + mysql + php, probably with default configs on a default ubuntu or sth. :)
Apr 30 13:19:50 <benkay>	how many times has sr been hacked?
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Apr 30 13:20:48 <Framedragger>	i only recall one (really) major security breach, pwd / pwd hashes stolen etc. it was a long time ago, probably in its LAMP infancy days
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Apr 30 13:20:58 <Framedragger>	they hired folks to harden security / rewrite things
Apr 30 13:21:27 <jcpham>	http://nashx.com/About
Apr 30 13:21:32 <jcpham>	looks more interesting
Apr 30 13:24:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.000725 = 6.8513 BTC [-]
Apr 30 13:25:16 <Framedragger>	nice one
Apr 30 13:25:16 <Framedragger>	"The amount you risk should be twice the amount you're trading in order to keep the deal in Nash equilibrium."
Apr 30 13:25:16 <Framedragger>	coolcool, actually looks interesting / i get the idea
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Apr 30 13:32:46 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.1991 = 1.3937 BTC [+]
Apr 30 13:36:24 <mircea_popescu>	he was here a fewe days ago discussing it.
Apr 30 13:36:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Apr 30 13:36:43 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Apr 30 13:37:09 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0d7b2025f98ee246e08189ba63da58a91aa92dc3142a56e80c32a778
Apr 30 13:37:10 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Apr 30 13:37:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate Girlfawkesy 1 my btc-e broker.
Apr 30 13:37:21 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Girlfawkesy has been recorded.
Apr 30 13:38:22 <jcpham>	http://pastebin.com/skGagP0X
Apr 30 13:38:31 <jcpham>	something about OVH and bitcoin site
Apr 30 13:38:39 <jcpham>	and brute forcing a password function
Apr 30 13:39:11 <mircea_popescu>	;;later tell davout you seen http://pastebin.com/skGagP0X ?
Apr 30 13:39:11 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
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Apr 30 13:40:05 <jcpham>	looks pretty big
Apr 30 13:40:33 <mircea_popescu>	yah
Apr 30 13:41:34 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31498 @ 0.000725 = 22.8361 BTC [-]
Apr 30 13:41:35 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00072153 = 8.9109 BTC [-]
Apr 30 13:41:43 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2137 @ 0.00072 = 1.5386 BTC [-]
Apr 30 13:41:53 <error4733>	haha mp i'm sur davout saw that :)
Apr 30 13:42:17 <mircea_popescu>	error4733 i think it's likely too, but you know, just in case.
Apr 30 13:42:27 <mircea_popescu>	if he didn't and nobody said anything cause sure he did... sucks to be him lol
Apr 30 13:42:43 <jcpham>	https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5632479
Apr 30 13:42:58 <jcpham>	http://forums.ovh.net/showthread.php?p=548183
Apr 30 13:43:48 <topace>	!ticker m s.dice
Apr 30 13:43:49 <assbot>	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00315598 / 0.0032441 / 0.00343999 (6603 shares, 21.42 BTC), 7D: 0.0023263 / 0.00295439 / 0.00349938 (39083 shares, 115.47 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00311033 / 0.00439999 (940537 shares, 2,925.39 BTC)
Apr 30 13:43:58 <topace>	!ticker h sdice
Apr 30 13:44:00 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.32000000 / 0.322025 / 0.33480000 (40 shares, 12.88099987 BTC), 7D: 0.27500001 / 0.30852573 / 0.33480000 (633 shares, 195.29678962 BTC), 30D: 0.12500000 / 0.31325339 / 0.44969999 (6343 shares, 1986.96624734 BTC)
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Apr 30 13:45:41 <jcpham>	TL;DR: Here's what happened. When a password reset is submitted, the user receives a random URL by email containing a random 21 letter string. The algorithm used was bad, so the random string could be brut-forced.
Apr 30 13:45:41 <jcpham>	The OVH team researched 3 years of password changelogs and found 3 customers who had been brute-forced that way, all in the "bitcoin community"
Apr 30 13:45:50 <jcpham>	sorry i wanted to make sense of what i read
Apr 30 13:47:03 <mircea_popescu>	yeah
Apr 30 13:47:28 <imsaguy>	because the bitcoin community typically has the maturity of a 12 y/o
Apr 30 13:47:43 <imsaguy>	"Here, hold all of my precious"
Apr 30 13:47:43 <mircea_popescu>	no, because the btc community has more money than all the internet combined.
Apr 30 13:47:51 <jcpham>	these cloud hoster will continually be infiltrated
Apr 30 13:47:56 <jcpham>	*hosters
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Apr 30 13:48:12 <jcpham>	most likely that isn't going away
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Apr 30 13:48:28 <mircea_popescu>	yea
Apr 30 13:48:29 <imsaguy>	anytime you put something in the cloud, you're risking it
Apr 30 13:48:29 <jcpham>	run a bitcoin based business on some rented platform -> get hacked
Apr 30 13:48:37 <imsaguy>	there's something to be said about physical security
Apr 30 13:48:47 <jcpham>	in this world, yes
Apr 30 13:48:47 <imsaguy>	the minute you give that up.. you'll be hosed
Apr 30 13:48:52 <jcpham>	for sure
Apr 30 13:48:53 <imsaguy>	its just a matter of time
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Apr 30 13:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	We have been in contact with these clients but the quality of our exchanges did not allow us to get enough information that would help reveal an vulnerability on our side. Our developpers have in a completely independant way found the issue mentionned above, and only then have we realised that there was a link between our flaw and these 3 customers. We certainly have something to learn here about the best way to ensure
Apr 30 13:58:56 <mircea_popescu>	 dialog with clients about this kind of issue.
Apr 30 13:59:01 <mircea_popescu>	this is some decent pr ovh has going.
Apr 30 14:00:18 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 14:00:54 <Framedragger>	ovh is typically not really good with client communication (personal limited experience)
Apr 30 14:02:24 <benkay>	all that said, there's no guarantee that owning your own boxes gets you anything
Apr 30 14:03:14 <mircea_popescu>	more generally, there's no guarantee.
Apr 30 14:03:19 <mircea_popescu>	also on the long term we're all hosed
Apr 30 14:03:21 <mircea_popescu>	in the burial way.
Apr 30 14:03:55 <benkay>	so have some damn fun!
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Apr 30 14:04:45 <Framedragger>	in the entropy way, too..
Apr 30 14:04:45 <Framedragger>	benkay: sure, unless you / or your hire really know(s) what you/they're doing. running bitcoind under multiple layers of virtualization/isolation (e.g. bsd jails + virtualbox + chroot) is a start
Apr 30 14:06:27 <Framedragger>	at the very least, that way you at least may attempt to evaluate your risks, possible attack vectors etc. not with cloud hosting / whatever - parts of the hosting infrastructure remain hidden from the client (or their implementations). which generally sucks when somebody discovers that times have changed and some of those hosted machines are now storing highly valuable assets
Apr 30 14:07:39 <Framedragger>	if you're going to run bitcoind on a $30 Kimsufi rented server with root password reset capabilities in your 'customer control panel', you're gonna have a hard time
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Apr 30 14:10:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.25396 = 8.7777 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:15:53 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4815 @ 0.00071954 = 3.4646 BTC [-]
Apr 30 14:15:55 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00072491 = 1.921 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:16:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9035 @ 0.00072623 = 6.5615 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 14:18:56 <KRS-1>	lol this is madness today compared to lately
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Apr 30 14:19:37 <benkay>	what's the madness, KRS-1?
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Apr 30 14:20:38 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvPdgkD5LA8 lol
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Apr 30 14:22:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25398 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:22:52 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25398 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 14:24:33 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15531 @ 0.00072623 = 11.2791 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 14:29:12 <KRS-1>	oh just saying how the buy/sell order volume is there but then pulled back and then there again
Apr 30 14:29:32 <KRS-1>	its been pretty quiet til today, a bit more movement..maybe madness was overdoing it a bit
Apr 30 14:29:36 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 30 14:29:39 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.88697, Best ask: 137.12099, Bid-ask spread: 0.23402, Last trade: 137.12100, 24 hour volume: 53204.21184346, 24 hour low: 136.00000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 141.41656
Apr 30 14:31:02 <KRS-1>	This is a pretty good song
Apr 30 14:31:18 <KRS-1>	Is that one dude in the background you?
Apr 30 14:31:36 <KRS-1>	lol
Apr 30 14:33:37 <thestringpuller>	what's causing the drop?
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Apr 30 14:35:13 <thestringpuller>	I feel like the bondholders saw the puts that were sold to the bot and dropped the price...
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Apr 30 14:35:20 <thestringpuller>	CONSPIRACY
Apr 30 14:36:13 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 30 14:38:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25399 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:38:26 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.254 = 6.27 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:38:32 <thestringpuller>	;;ticker
Apr 30 14:38:33 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.31001, Best ask: 135.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 135.40000, 24 hour volume: 54369.04427953, 24 hour low: 135.48000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 141.29665
Apr 30 14:38:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.255 = 12.55 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:38:37 <tiberiusiv>	bondholders are bagholders in mirceas scam
Apr 30 14:38:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.259999 = 25.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 14:38:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.26985 = 2.5397 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:38:55 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv: what do you even do in bitcoinland
Apr 30 14:38:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.27 = 8.89 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:39:12 <tiberiusiv>	i dont scam people like mircea does.
Apr 30 14:39:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27195 = 2.5439 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:39:17 <tiberiusiv>	so doing nothing is better then that
Apr 30 14:39:24 <thestringpuller>	so you do nothing?
Apr 30 14:39:27 <thestringpuller>	COOL
Apr 30 14:39:29 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is nothing but a big fraud
Apr 30 14:39:31 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27795 = 2.5559 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:39:32 <thestringpuller>	Can I invest in you?
Apr 30 14:39:42 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:39:48 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2997 = 3.8991 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:39:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2998 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:40:04 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.29998 = 5.1999 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:40:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.29999 = 3.9 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:40:30 <thestringpuller>	tiberiusiv the man who criticizes without any credentials
Apr 30 14:40:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.3 = 11.7 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:40:41 <thestringpuller>	intellectualism to the extreme!
Apr 30 14:40:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.3 = 39 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:40:43 <tiberiusiv>	ignored
Apr 30 14:40:49 <thestringpuller>	you must be the smartest person I know!
Apr 30 14:41:01 <KRS-1>	u mad tiberiusiv
Apr 30 14:41:12 <KRS-1>	y u mad brah
Apr 30 14:41:14 <thestringpuller>	;;gribble tell tiberiusiv I WON'T BE IGNORED!!!!!!!
Apr 30 14:41:15 <gribble>	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
Apr 30 14:41:17 <tiberiusiv>	guy has like 2 btc
Apr 30 14:41:23 <tiberiusiv>	dont know why he bothers
Apr 30 14:41:23 <KRS-1>	dun be mad brah
Apr 30 14:41:29 <thestringpuller>	;;tell tiberiusiv I WON'T BE IGNORED!!!!!!!
Apr 30 14:41:35 <KRS-1>	seriously...u mad?
Apr 30 14:41:39 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell tiberiusiv I WON'T BE IGNORED!!!!!!!
Apr 30 14:41:39 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 30 14:41:54 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29999 BTC [-]
Apr 30 14:42:02 <tiberiusiv>	;;tell mircea_popescu you are a fraud and a scammer
Apr 30 14:42:05 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell tiberiusiv I have 75 btc now liquid. Soon I will have a few hundred as things grow.
Apr 30 14:42:06 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 30 14:42:59 <thestringpuller>	;;later tell tiberiusiv You are a poop who has no rational statements to use because you'd rather be accusatory rather than contribute anything of value to society, like a greedy American addicted to the allure of wealth.
Apr 30 14:43:00 <gribble>	The operation succeeded.
Apr 30 14:43:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.898 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:43:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.898 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:43:28 <thestringpuller>	:D
Apr 30 14:43:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.30999 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:44:17 <tiberiusiv>	all my statements are perfectly rational
Apr 30 14:44:24 <tiberiusiv>	i told everyone in here mircea_popesc the SCUM
Apr 30 14:44:32 <tiberiusiv>	would have another large losing month
Apr 30 14:44:34 <tiberiusiv>	and he did.
Apr 30 14:44:48 <tiberiusiv>	mircea popescu will end up losing/stealing more bitcoins then pirate ever dreamt of
Apr 30 14:45:17 <thestringpuller>	he's not pokceting coins dude
Apr 30 14:45:24 <tiberiusiv>	he sells worthless shares.
Apr 30 14:45:51 <tiberiusiv>	even if hes not pocketing bondholder coins
Apr 30 14:45:55 <thestringpuller>	they pay out pretty much the same dividends every month...
Apr 30 14:45:57 <tiberiusiv>	his risk management is so bad that he will be out of funds
Apr 30 14:46:00 <tiberiusiv>	to continue MPOE
Apr 30 14:46:07 <tiberiusiv>	thestringpuller are you stupid?
Apr 30 14:46:08 <thestringpuller>	MPOE doesn't keep any cash on hand
Apr 30 14:46:12 <tiberiusiv>	MPOE has lost HUGE
Apr 30 14:46:18 <tiberiusiv>	in the last 60 days alone.
Apr 30 14:46:25 <tiberiusiv>	either mircea is faking losses to steal bondholders coins
Apr 30 14:46:27 <thestringpuller>	It lost bondholder money
Apr 30 14:46:31 <tiberiusiv>	or hes one dumb fuck
Apr 30 14:46:31 <thestringpuller>	not any money of it's own
Apr 30 14:46:33 <mircea_popescu>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178535.0
Apr 30 14:46:39 <mircea_popescu>	betbtcnow.com ? never heard of it.
Apr 30 14:46:40 <tiberiusiv>	yea obviously. it has no money
Apr 30 14:46:52 <tiberiusiv>	why would scammer mircea risk his own money
Apr 30 14:47:03 <thestringpuller>	so your point is bondholders put up capital, .23~ loss per coin
Apr 30 14:47:04 <tiberiusiv>	MPOE has no "money of its own"
Apr 30 14:47:13 <thestringpuller>	= scam
Apr 30 14:47:15 <tiberiusiv>	bond holders have lost over 50%
Apr 30 14:47:17 <tiberiusiv>	in the last 60 days alone
Apr 30 14:47:26 <tiberiusiv>	mircea fakes trades in order to stimulate bids for his shitty stock
Apr 30 14:47:37 <tiberiusiv>	as he owns 90%+ of the float
Apr 30 14:47:44 <tiberiusiv>	everytime he sells a piece of the float its free money to him
Apr 30 14:47:46 <thestringpuller>	proof of faking trades?
Apr 30 14:47:58 <tiberiusiv>	um theres no one in here trading them?
Apr 30 14:48:05 <tiberiusiv>	its like a handful of people.
Apr 30 14:48:18 <thestringpuller>	anonymous shareholders != scam
Apr 30 14:48:21 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is running a textbook boiler room
Apr 30 14:48:26 <tiberiusiv>	there arent any shareholders.
Apr 30 14:48:29 <tiberiusiv>	its just mircea
Apr 30 14:48:34 <tiberiusiv>	hence why he still controls over 90% of float
Apr 30 14:48:48 <tiberiusiv>	he needs to get bids in to sell into
Apr 30 14:49:09 <tiberiusiv>	hence why he has the options bs going.
Apr 30 14:49:20 <tiberiusiv>	to show activities.
Apr 30 14:49:31 <tiberiusiv>	but mircea has lost more in the last 60 days then his ventures have EVER made in profit
Apr 30 14:49:32 <thestringpuller>	dude you're making bs claims with no evidence
Apr 30 14:49:39 <tiberiusiv>	theres plenty of evidence.
Apr 30 14:49:44 <thestringpuller>	in terms of faking tarades
Apr 30 14:49:48 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is a fraudster
Apr 30 14:49:55 <tiberiusiv>	he fucked over people in here too
Apr 30 14:49:58 <tiberiusiv>	like bugpowder
Apr 30 14:50:05 <tiberiusiv>	by cancelling trades out
Apr 30 14:50:07 <thestringpuller>	Bugpowder is up 1500%
Apr 30 14:50:14 <tiberiusiv>	and?
Apr 30 14:50:19 <tiberiusiv>	hes not up all the way
Apr 30 14:50:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2884 @ 0.00072623 = 2.0944 BTC [+]
Apr 30 14:50:27 <tiberiusiv>	theres many trades hes been cancelled out on.
Apr 30 14:50:47 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is an egomaniac fraudster that wont admit MPOE has been a huge failure
Apr 30 14:51:02 <tiberiusiv>	he honestly believes his options scam is actually influencing btc price.
Apr 30 14:51:04 <thestringpuller>	because it's not?
Apr 30 14:51:14 <tiberiusiv>	um losing 30,000 bitcoins in 60 days
Apr 30 14:51:16 <tiberiusiv>	is a failure to me.
Apr 30 14:51:34 <thestringpuller>	how?
Apr 30 14:51:51 <tiberiusiv>	he wont have enough bitcoins if losses continue
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Apr 30 14:52:10 <tiberiusiv>	MPOE will shut down either way
Apr 30 14:52:12 <thestringpuller>	dude MPOE doesn't hold capital
Apr 30 14:52:16 <tiberiusiv>	unless hes lieing and just pocketing the coins
Apr 30 14:52:19 <thestringpuller>	so he won't run out of money
Apr 30 14:52:19 <tiberiusiv>	and rinse repeat
Apr 30 14:52:29 <tiberiusiv>	yes they do they hold bondholder capital.
Apr 30 14:52:35 <tiberiusiv>	thats what the bond gambles with.
Apr 30 14:52:37 <tiberiusiv>	DUH
Apr 30 14:52:48 <tiberiusiv>	yes he will unless he finds more suckers to give him bitcoins
Apr 30 14:53:04 <thestringpuller>	dude the bondholder list is huge
Apr 30 14:53:19 <tiberiusiv>	no it isnt.
Apr 30 14:53:27 <tiberiusiv>	why are you still tallking?
Apr 30 14:53:27 <jcpham>	apparently someone just sent 40 btc to SD in -otc and lost it
Apr 30 14:53:33 <thestringpuller>	because you're full of shit
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Apr 30 14:53:35 <jcpham>	hurrr
Apr 30 14:53:41 <tiberiusiv>	mircea admits that over 90% of the bond portfolio is him
Apr 30 14:53:58 <thestringpuller>	it amuses me how accusatory you are
Apr 30 14:54:00 <Framedragger>	ouch re: 40btc
Apr 30 14:54:02 <tiberiusiv>	back on ignore the loser with 2 bitcoins who has no idea how anything works
Apr 30 14:54:09 <tiberiusiv>	if you had a clue you wouldnt be so broke
Apr 30 14:54:17 <thestringpuller>	i'm far from broke?
Apr 30 14:54:22 <jcpham>	tiberiusiv how can i make money
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Apr 30 14:56:10 <jcpham>	fine ignore me
Apr 30 15:02:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.003625 BTC [+]
Apr 30 15:03:14 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 99 @ 0.003625 = 0.3589 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 15:07:16 <benkay>	thestringpuller: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/
Apr 30 15:07:31 <benkay>	mircea is 68K of 84K in bondholder capital
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Apr 30 15:08:12 <benkay>	only 80.9%
Apr 30 15:09:08 <benkay>	and this month, only 6.4 kbtc in bonds were sold
Apr 30 15:09:32 <benkay>	but at 12.5%
Apr 30 15:09:39 <benkay>	that's a pretty steep rate
Apr 30 15:10:07 <benkay>	needs to be, to induce people to put up bonds that are almost guaranteed to take huge writedowns
Apr 30 15:11:12 <mircea_popescu>	benkay only 6.4 in bonds were needed.
Apr 30 15:11:30 <deadweasel>	projected expenses, right?
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Apr 30 15:12:51 <benkay>	how is necessary bond capital determined? the bot says "I want to underwrite bonds!" and then does so?
Apr 30 15:13:06 <mircea_popescu>	retroactively. looks how much exposure it had at the point it had the most exposure.
Apr 30 15:13:58 <tiberiusiv>	benkay hahah
Apr 30 15:14:11 <tiberiusiv>	deadweasel projected expenses?|
Apr 30 15:14:15 <tiberiusiv>	are you fucking stupid.
Apr 30 15:14:26 <tiberiusiv>	how can you project losses from bitcoin volatility.
Apr 30 15:14:39 <tiberiusiv>	the price can go swing 50% either way
Apr 30 15:14:50 <tiberiusiv>	mircea popescu LOSES money when bitcoin is volatile
Apr 30 15:14:53 <tiberiusiv>	which is like 80% of the time
Apr 30 15:15:23 <tiberiusiv>	mircea the fraud/scammer had to put a 12.5% rate in order to get more greedy idiots to give him bitcoins
Apr 30 15:17:15 <benkay>	nobody's modeling anything
Apr 30 15:17:20 <benkay>	nobody's writing this shit up
Apr 30 15:17:24 <tiberiusiv>	no shit
Apr 30 15:17:28 <benkay>	it's just a bunch of opionions flying back and forth on irc
Apr 30 15:17:35 <tiberiusiv>	hes a fraud
Apr 30 15:17:44 <benkay>	you have a claim
Apr 30 15:17:44 <tiberiusiv>	needs the activity to stimulate bids for worthless mpex shares
Apr 30 15:17:48 <tiberiusiv>	that he sells
Apr 30 15:17:53 <tiberiusiv>	CLASSIC boiler room scheme
Apr 30 15:18:07 <tiberiusiv>	hence why he does it out of lawless romania where he is untouchable
Apr 30 15:18:22 <benkay>	so, what would be a good metric for evaluating this claim?
Apr 30 15:18:39 <tiberiusiv>	what claim? that mircea owns 90%+ of the float and he needs bids to dump into
Apr 30 15:18:50 <Framedragger>	"lawless romania" haha right
Apr 30 15:19:02 <tiberiusiv>	romania is the fraud capital of the world for a reason
Apr 30 15:19:15 <tiberiusiv>	you can buy police/judges quite easily
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Apr 30 15:19:25 <xire>	dun dun dun dun dun da da
Apr 30 15:19:50 <xire>	here in romania, we make own rules
Apr 30 15:19:51 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is an egomaniac who wont admit to mistakes
Apr 30 15:19:55 <Framedragger>	kinda need citations to support these claims, only because ISPs do not prosecute scriptkiddies there does not mean much
Apr 30 15:20:05 <tiberiusiv>	citations?
Apr 30 15:20:09 <tiberiusiv>	its the internet fraud capital of the world.
Apr 30 15:20:13 <tiberiusiv>	go fucking get your own citations
Apr 30 15:20:22 <tiberiusiv>	a cop costs $200
Apr 30 15:20:33 <Framedragger>	to actual studies operationalizing such terms as (lol) 'fraud capital' :)
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Apr 30 15:20:54 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.france24.com/en/20121207-reporters-romania-hackerville-ramnicu-valcea-cyber-crime-fraud-scams-hackers-internet-police-fbi-cia-bitdefender
Apr 30 15:20:57 <Framedragger>	i can also buy a cop in my hometown, though not sure of price :P
Apr 30 15:21:06 <tiberiusiv>	theres entire villages there where people dont do anything but internet scams
Apr 30 15:21:34 <xire>	tiberiusiv, what country are you from?
Apr 30 15:21:37 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.france24.com/en/20121207-reporters-romania-hackerville-ramnicu-valcea-cyber-crime-fraud-scams-hackers-internet-police-fbi-cia-bitdefender
Apr 30 15:21:47 <tiberiusiv>	http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3226837/ns/technology_and_science-security/t/how-romania-became-center-cybercrime/#.UYAZvMpVVLo
Apr 30 15:21:48 <deadweasel>	tiberiusiv: eat my cock, welcome to ignore for the 5th time this month.
Apr 30 15:22:06 <tiberiusiv>	how convenient mircea is in romania lol
Apr 30 15:22:29 <tiberiusiv>	poor ass gypsy who resorts to internet scams like his country men
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Apr 30 15:23:57 <Framedragger>	lol, did you read the article you linked to mate, it doesn't really say anything apart from mentioning the keywords that matched your google query
Apr 30 15:24:51 <deadweasel>	tiberiusiv doesn't take anything in, he merely spews outward
Apr 30 15:24:54 <tiberiusiv>	theres plenty of articles
Apr 30 15:25:00 <Framedragger>	"But outside these run-down flats, the streets are full of expensive,  fast cars that are a marked contrast to their surroundings. [same in many countries, saw that in sarajevo, etc] The hackers  like to show off their wealth and power with these high-powered  vehicles, which they race through the streets at night. [this does not follow from the prev sentence"
Apr 30 15:25:00 <Framedragger>	not sure why i'm responding though :(
Apr 30 15:25:04 <tiberiusiv>	mircea popescu is a fraud and you will lose
Apr 30 15:25:23 <tiberiusiv>	once he runs out of bagholders
Apr 30 15:25:28 <jcpham>	so tiberiusiv do you know mircea_popescu
Apr 30 15:25:39 <jcpham>	i'm curious about your motivations
Apr 30 15:26:05 <jcpham>	normally people are vocal about this sort of thing have some one else pulling the strings, so to speak
Apr 30 15:26:16 <jcpham>	so it seems odd, unfounded, not genuine.
Apr 30 15:26:16 <tiberiusiv>	right so its a conspiracy now
Apr 30 15:26:23 <deadweasel>	thestringpuller!!! it's you!
Apr 30 15:26:26 <tiberiusiv>	you a mircea cheerleader
Apr 30 15:26:33 <jcpham>	not really. fuck him
Apr 30 15:26:37 <jcpham>	i don't know him
Apr 30 15:26:37 <deadweasel>	^
Apr 30 15:26:51 <deadweasel>	ditto
Apr 30 15:26:55 <jcpham>	but i am curious about your motivations
Apr 30 15:26:59 <jcpham>	at this point
Apr 30 15:27:01 <tiberiusiv>	i dont have any
Apr 30 15:27:08 <tiberiusiv>	merely pointing out how his boiler room scam works
Apr 30 15:27:09 <jcpham>	are you sure about that?
Apr 30 15:27:17 <tiberiusiv>	mircea needs bids to sell his worthless shares mpex.
Apr 30 15:27:25 <jcpham>	i'm going to believe you for now i guess
Apr 30 15:27:36 <benkay>	what about s.dice? is that a scam as well?
Apr 30 15:27:38 <deadweasel>	bitcoins at any price over 8$ are a scam, go tell #bitcoin-anal about it
Apr 30 15:27:40 <jcpham>	but your outspoken nature on romanians is highly suspect
Apr 30 15:27:53 <tiberiusiv>	benkay: sdice is shady but hard to tell if its a scam or not
Apr 30 15:27:53 <benkay>	so are MP's on "niggers"
Apr 30 15:28:02 <mircea_popescu>	pfff.
Apr 30 15:28:15 <benkay>	just elbowing you
Apr 30 15:28:16 <tiberiusiv>	mircea is a nigger himself
Apr 30 15:28:24 <jcpham>	smh
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Apr 30 15:28:44 <tiberiusiv>	voorhees does hold a huge par tof the float
Apr 30 15:28:48 <tiberiusiv>	he loves dumping
Apr 30 15:28:49 <mircea_popescu>	so bitcoin is a scam or what
Apr 30 15:29:00 <jcpham>	i think it might be a scam mircea_popescu
Apr 30 15:29:00 <benkay>	sdice is an awesome example of what happens in economies that think they're unregulatable
Apr 30 15:29:08 <tiberiusiv>	bitcoin cant be a scam as it does not need endles new bidders
Apr 30 15:29:20 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham brb gotta post on my blog.
Apr 30 15:29:20 <tiberiusiv>	mpex does.
Apr 30 15:29:26 <jcpham>	oh wait tiberiusiv said it isn't a scam now
Apr 30 15:29:34 <jcpham>	i thought it was a scam a minute ago
Apr 30 15:29:38 <tiberiusiv>	i never said it was one
Apr 30 15:29:46 <jcpham>	my mistake.
Apr 30 15:29:47 <tiberiusiv>	i said MPEX and mircea are scams
Apr 30 15:29:48 <jcpham>	totally
Apr 30 15:29:49 <tiberiusiv>	not bitcoin.
Apr 30 15:30:00 <jcpham>	can i be a scam too?
Apr 30 15:30:00 <tiberiusiv>	guy cant even read probably another lowlife with a few coins
Apr 30 15:30:09 <jcpham>	will you tell people
Apr 30 15:30:14 <tiberiusiv>	yes
Apr 30 15:30:18 <jcpham>	super
Apr 30 15:31:03 <mircea_popescu>	wait what ?
Apr 30 15:31:04 <jcpham>	how many bitcoins do i need to posses to own a "few"
Apr 30 15:31:06 <mircea_popescu>	im confused.
Apr 30 15:31:20 <jcpham>	what's the arbitrary number
Apr 30 15:31:24 <jcpham>	that makes me cool
Apr 30 15:31:24 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham 13, as established by uppittytortilla
Apr 30 15:31:32 <jcpham>	i got  that
Apr 30 15:31:39 <jcpham>	toattally in the cool kids club
Apr 30 15:31:41 <mircea_popescu>	k send them to me now
Apr 30 15:31:45 <jcpham>	psssh
Apr 30 15:31:48 <jcpham>	scammer
Apr 30 15:31:48 <benkay>	FOAR TEH BONDS
Apr 30 15:31:51 <jcpham>	romanian scammer
Apr 30 15:31:56 <mircea_popescu>	send them to me or you don't go to the supernode.
Apr 30 15:32:00 <jcpham>	fuck
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Apr 30 15:32:06 <jcpham>	i need it for Helsinki
Apr 30 15:32:11 <mircea_popescu>	1sendhereorelsenosupernode1254
Apr 30 15:32:12 <jcpham>	1.5 class suernode
Apr 30 15:32:22 <rigacrypto>	anyone knows a good bitcoin trading channel ?
Apr 30 15:32:30 <jcpham>	not this one
Apr 30 15:32:44 <tiberiusiv>	there arent any rigacrypto
Apr 30 15:32:49 <dub>	#bitcoin-spacedicks
Apr 30 15:32:51 <tiberiusiv>	its mostly clowns with 1-2btc trying to get rich
Apr 30 15:32:59 <tiberiusiv>	#mircea_popescu
Apr 30 15:33:11 <mircea_popescu>	rigacrypto this but romanians aren't allowed so.
Apr 30 15:33:12 <tiberiusiv>	daily fraud seminars
Apr 30 15:33:26 <jcpham>	1-2 btc is not a percentage of my total ealth
Apr 30 15:33:27 <tiberiusiv>	2.99 BTC for the packet
Apr 30 15:33:30 <jcpham>	i do percentages
Apr 30 15:33:32 <dub>	jcpham is a semenair
Apr 30 15:33:47 <mircea_popescu>	1-2 btc is FIDDY PERCENTAGES
Apr 30 15:33:48 <jcpham>	dub what?!? thaere's semen in the air!>!?!
Apr 30 15:33:51 <mircea_popescu>	of your total poverty
Apr 30 15:34:08 <jcpham>	hundredaire
Apr 30 15:34:20 <jcpham>	popping cola bottles
Apr 30 15:34:49 <rigacrypto>	anybody shorting bitcoins ?
Apr 30 15:34:49 <jcpham>	i don't even think i can link you to wallet i controll with a lot of coins
Apr 30 15:34:55 <jurov>	you naughtaires
Apr 30 15:34:56 <jcpham>	sorry to disappoint
Apr 30 15:34:56 <rigacrypto>	 what's your entry point and when do you plan to close the position ?
Apr 30 15:35:42 <deadweasel>	drinkin' tap water
Apr 30 15:35:50 <jurov>	rigacrypto: here ppl prefer mpoe options as "entry points"
Apr 30 15:35:52 <jcpham>	shorting? like long term shorting
Apr 30 15:35:53 <jborkl>	pfft , I won't use a 1.5 supernode
Apr 30 15:35:59 <jborkl>	only 1.49 or better
Apr 30 15:36:00 <jcpham>	or just short term- shorting like today
Apr 30 15:36:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.471 BTC [-]
Apr 30 15:36:20 <rigacrypto>	long term. never fight the bots
Apr 30 15:36:26 <jcpham>	wow
Apr 30 15:36:38 <rigacrypto>	@jurov: ok
Apr 30 15:36:41 <jcpham>	but the bots are the market
Apr 30 15:37:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32701996 BTC [+]
Apr 30 15:37:08 <jcpham>	i have a hard time planning anything for more than  afew hours
Apr 30 15:37:18 <rigacrypto>	the market is made of hype-controlled people
Apr 30 15:37:32 <jcpham>	or hype-producing people...
Apr 30 15:37:34 <rigacrypto>	analyze the hype cycle and you can guess the market
Apr 30 15:37:35 <jurov>	and rigacrypto, my ex-boss asked me the same some time ago
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Apr 30 15:37:57 <jurov>	the best answer around was "don't buy bitcoins at all"
Apr 30 15:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3211 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 15:38:11 <jcpham>	rigacrypto i couldn't stay short for more than a few hours
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Apr 30 15:38:35 <jborkl>	the hype circle jerk is in -otc and I would'nt stick micrea-popescus dick in that shithole of a channel
Apr 30 15:38:58 <rigacrypto>	a better strategy: long when it's low and short when it's high :D
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Apr 30 15:38:59 <jcpham>	they are talking about btcjam loans still
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Apr 30 15:39:25 <jurov>	rigacrypto: right now it is low or high?
Apr 30 15:39:34 <jurov>	a million bitcoins question :D
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Apr 30 15:39:50 <rigacrypto>	at 160, my entry point, it was high; I wonder the same thing now :)
Apr 30 15:39:56 <jcpham>	i still think we're correcting to 4 digits
Apr 30 15:39:59 <jborkl>	i think right now there is one buyer and one seller
Apr 30 15:40:00 <jcpham>	might take 9 months
Apr 30 15:40:02 <jcpham>	though
Apr 30 15:40:30 <jurov>	let's divide us to bulls, bears and boars and vote
Apr 30 15:41:33 <benkay>	on what timeframe, jurov ;) ?
Apr 30 15:41:55 <jurov>	medium short-to-long term
Apr 30 15:42:05 <dub>	rigacrypto: there is #bitcoin-analysis but its turning into -otc
Apr 30 15:43:32 <rigacrypto>	the dumber the better. good proxy for market sentiment
Apr 30 15:43:37 <rigacrypto>	otc it is then
Apr 30 15:43:42 <mircea_popescu>	gl.
Apr 30 15:43:59 <jurov>	oh, then there's btc-e trollbox (but it's mostly about ltc)
Apr 30 15:46:38 <dub>	how is ltc doing, any panic from the looming lukepocalypse?
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Apr 30 15:47:17 <jurov>	no change recently
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Apr 30 15:47:41 <jurov>	hovering above 0.03 btc
Apr 30 15:48:32 <jurov>	i hope that attack coincides with mtgox launch...for moar drama
Apr 30 15:49:32 <benkay>	attack?
Apr 30 15:49:53 <jurov>	benkay, luke-jr promises to 51% litecoin
Apr 30 15:50:07 <benkay>	nice
Apr 30 15:50:17 <benkay>	why?
Apr 30 15:50:17 <jurov>	supposedly it users scrypt  wrongly and prone to fpgas
Apr 30 15:50:38 <dub>	because alt coins are bad
Apr 30 15:50:47 <dub>	and bitcoin needs more drama
Apr 30 15:51:39 <benkay>	let's all waste the one asset we never get more of
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Apr 30 15:52:36 <jurov>	maybe bitcoin became sentient AI and hates competitors and it's hungry for drama
Apr 30 15:52:51 <jurov>	and miners are his minions
Apr 30 15:52:55 <mircea_popescu>	<benkay> why? << because he'd like people to think he still has miner relevance.
Apr 30 15:53:04 <mircea_popescu>	i guess in the end he'll attack ppcoin or something
Apr 30 15:53:39 <dub>	kinda surprised he hasnt
Apr 30 15:54:00 <jurov>	iirc ppcoin uses merged mining with btc
Apr 30 15:54:17 <dub>	no it doesnt, or he would have
Apr 30 15:54:50 <ThickAsThieves>	cuz attacking a coin is great for your rep
Apr 30 15:55:12 <ThickAsThieves>	look at how much we adored the devs after the bitcoin fork
Apr 30 15:55:20 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 30 15:55:53 <dub>	there will be some ideological resason that makes sense only to the type of person that would rape his wife with his four kids in the bed next to them
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Apr 30 15:55:57 <jcpham>	i'd help luke 51% litecoin
Apr 30 15:55:59 <jcpham>	for sure
Apr 30 15:56:12 <truffles>	why
Apr 30 15:56:12 <jcpham>	when does that happen
Apr 30 15:56:20 <jcpham>	because i can?
Apr 30 15:56:21 <ThickAsThieves>	it's the productive thing to do
Apr 30 15:56:25 <mircea_popescu>	wednesday after lent.
Apr 30 15:56:34 <jcpham>	litecoin has no value
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Apr 30 15:56:42 <jcpham>	other than to hedge against bitcoin
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Apr 30 15:56:48 <mircea_popescu>	dub pix ?
Apr 30 15:56:48 <ThickAsThieves>	thus attacking litecoin has value?
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Apr 30 15:56:56 <jcpham>	it's neat and all....and that's a neat value
Apr 30 15:57:00 <jcpham>	but sort of pointless
Apr 30 15:57:15 <mircea_popescu>	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-finance-shouldnt-be-open-to-your-average-schmoe/#comment-92985
Apr 30 15:57:15 <ThickAsThieves>	making an attack even more pointless
Apr 30 15:57:17 <mircea_popescu>	is that tibby ?
Apr 30 15:57:38 <jcpham>	ThickAsThieves so i should quit now?
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Apr 30 15:58:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073864 = 4.2841 BTC [+]
Apr 30 15:58:12 <jcpham>	i hate litecoin because i missed the pump and dump
Apr 30 15:58:14 <ThickAsThieves>	let the kids have their fun i say
Apr 30 15:58:19 <jcpham>	during $260 bitcoins
Apr 30 15:58:22 <mircea_popescu>	jcpham you know what ? i missed it too
Apr 30 15:58:29 <mircea_popescu>	bought them cheap sold like 25% of the way up
Apr 30 15:58:30 <jcpham>	jeez it was epic
Apr 30 15:58:58 <dub>	mircea_popescu: I can answer that question:- because bitcoin
Apr 30 15:59:12 <ThickAsThieves>	i thought i was all fancy selling my litecoins at like .026
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Apr 30 15:59:21 <ThickAsThieves>	then it kept going
Apr 30 15:59:27 <jcpham>	they got up to like $10 or something right
Apr 30 15:59:34 <jcpham>	maybe 5$
Apr 30 15:59:36 <ThickAsThieves>	.04+ i think
Apr 30 15:59:37 <jcpham>	way too much
Apr 30 15:59:37 <mircea_popescu>	dub which q are you answering ?
Apr 30 15:59:46 <ThickAsThieves>	all questions
Apr 30 15:59:47 <dub>	why-finance-shouldnt-be-open-to-your-average-schmoe/
Apr 30 16:00:07 <mircea_popescu>	a a. myeah.
Apr 30 16:00:45 <jcpham>	omg mircea_popescu
Apr 30 16:00:53 <jcpham>	i already clowned on him in -otc
Apr 30 16:01:02 <jcpham>	talk about a 1st owrld problem
Apr 30 16:01:09 <jcpham>	his house looks fine
Apr 30 16:01:20 <mircea_popescu>	no dude.
Apr 30 16:01:25 <mircea_popescu>	must spend 200 btc to add a balcony.
Apr 30 16:01:34 <jcpham>	retarded
Apr 30 16:01:52 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 30 16:01:53 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.01000, Best ask: 137.75000, Bid-ask spread: 1.74000, Last trade: 137.87980, 24 hour volume: 60555.46093699, 24 hour low: 134.00000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 140.33742
Apr 30 16:02:00 <mircea_popescu>	(i had no idea wtf he's doing at the time of writing, but anyway)
Apr 30 16:02:05 <ThickAsThieves>	nice spread
Apr 30 16:02:18 <jcpham>	it's a laughable forum post
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Apr 30 16:07:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 16:25:33 <mircea_popescu>	ah finally!
Apr 30 16:25:46 <mircea_popescu>	;;eauth mircea_popescu
Apr 30 16:25:47 <gribble>	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Apr 30 16:26:15 <mircea_popescu>	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8689fa94da1f1eb79f997983fc12ba991db3bad46a67ddd64eae7819
Apr 30 16:26:16 <gribble>	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Apr 30 16:26:17 <mircea_popescu>	win.
Apr 30 16:26:22 <mircea_popescu>	it works here too now.
Apr 30 16:28:13 <Framedragger>	oh, nice.
Apr 30 16:29:28 <mircea_popescu>	"The difference between the Valley and Eastern Europe is that in the Valley spammers get VC funding. Also, the spam is beautifully designed."
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Apr 30 16:37:59 <KRS-1>	p33r for now i have j00 key
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Apr 30 16:48:31 <Luke-Jr>	jurov: eh, when did I promise that?
Apr 30 16:49:03 <jurov>	lemme check
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Apr 30 16:51:00 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0101 BTC [+]
Apr 30 16:51:27 <jurov>	Luke-Jr: okay, seems you "just"
Apr 30 16:51:32 <jurov>	spread a rumor
Apr 30 16:52:04 <Luke-Jr>	also won't be me doing it
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Apr 30 16:54:53 <kakobrekla>	a followup https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.msg1988722#msg1988722
Apr 30 16:56:01 <mircea_popescu>	lmai
Apr 30 16:56:32 <kakobrekla>	is like
Apr 30 16:56:37 <kakobrekla>	id code it 10 years ago
Apr 30 16:56:39 <kakobrekla>	:\
Apr 30 16:56:59 <kakobrekla>	(when i was 15)
Apr 30 16:57:34 <kakobrekla>	maybe id do a better job
Apr 30 16:57:43 <kakobrekla>	even.
Apr 30 16:58:07 *	rigacrypto is now known as rexcrypto
Apr 30 16:58:27 <mircea_popescu>	ya i was thinking, yet anoither kid with php doing an exchange.
Apr 30 16:59:03 <kakobrekla>	well, its not the phps fault, just cause some idiots drive into a wall cars are not inheritly bad
Apr 30 17:00:29 <mircea_popescu>	o sure.
Apr 30 17:00:36 <mircea_popescu>	if anything it's php's fault for being too good.
Apr 30 17:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	so everyone uses it.
Apr 30 17:00:43 <kakobrekla>	:)
Apr 30 17:01:37 <kakobrekla>	i should be getting paid for this bashing!
Apr 30 17:01:43 <kakobrekla>	its too valuable
Apr 30 17:01:49 <kakobrekla>	to rant for free
Apr 30 17:01:52 <jurov>	stfu, you got 0.1btc..a fortune
Apr 30 17:02:02 <kakobrekla>	-assets got those
Apr 30 17:02:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24688 BTC [-]
Apr 30 17:02:09 <kakobrekla>	to help kako with development!
Apr 30 17:02:12 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.245 BTC [-]
Apr 30 17:02:23 <kakobrekla>	accually i got nothing yet.
Apr 30 17:02:31 <kakobrekla>	just unfunded short position
Apr 30 17:02:36 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 30 17:02:37 <jurov>	anyway, what's planned?
Apr 30 17:02:48 <mircea_popescu>	see, when i flatteded icbit i got like a few hundred out of it.
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Apr 30 17:03:37 <kakobrekla>	ya but icbit accually half worked
Apr 30 17:03:40 <kakobrekla>	this doesnt.
Apr 30 17:04:10 <ezdiy>	hmm, btc.sx
Apr 30 17:04:21 <ezdiy>	why do people keep using zhoutongs code?
Apr 30 17:04:41 <kakobrekla>	you think its his?
Apr 30 17:05:07 <kakobrekla>	23:04.19 ( ezdiy ) why do people keep using zhoutongs code? < -- cause amir
Apr 30 17:05:29 <ezdiy>	ah
Apr 30 17:05:36 <ezdiy>	bitcoinica's code aint even zhoutongs? :)
Apr 30 17:05:49 <kakobrekla>	amir leaked it iirc?
Apr 30 17:06:13 <ezdiy>	yeah, who knows
Apr 30 17:06:29 <ezdiy>	maybe he wrote it
Apr 30 17:06:33 <ezdiy>	and zhoutong stole it
Apr 30 17:06:33 <ezdiy>	lol
Apr 30 17:06:42 <kakobrekla>	no no
Apr 30 17:06:50 <kakobrekla>	zhoutong is in the biz of stealing btc
Apr 30 17:06:53 <kakobrekla>	not stealing code
Apr 30 17:07:28 <ezdiy>	i think zhoutong was just pressed by the circumstances
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Apr 30 17:07:36 <kakobrekla>	eh?
Apr 30 17:07:39 <ezdiy>	i mean, his bucketshop has been basically printing money
Apr 30 17:07:48 <kakobrekla>	what?
Apr 30 17:08:07 <ezdiy>	it made no sense to kill it
Apr 30 17:08:13 <ezdiy>	unless he got bored with it or something
Apr 30 17:08:22 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy nah, zhoutong wriote it, then brought it "bitcoin consultancy" "experts"
Apr 30 17:08:32 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: i know
Apr 30 17:08:33 <mircea_popescu>	who supervised the next two hackjs and leaked the code
Apr 30 17:08:35 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Apr 30 17:08:48 <ezdiy>	mircea_popescu: what is interesting the speculation which follows up
Apr 30 17:08:57 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, they were actually losing money with it.
Apr 30 17:09:18 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00073244 = 1.4283 BTC [-]
Apr 30 17:09:18 <kakobrekla>	were they?
Apr 30 17:09:42 <ezdiy>	from what i gather its been extremely profitable before it was sold to intersango :)
Apr 30 17:09:48 <ezdiy>	i mean
Apr 30 17:09:54 <ezdiy>	with spreads like 10%
Apr 30 17:10:17 <ezdiy>	you simply cant lose money
Apr 30 17:10:24 <mircea_popescu>	you gather wrongly.
Apr 30 17:10:35 <mircea_popescu>	there's emails leaked showing zhoutong taking no salary because they had losses.
Apr 30 17:10:42 <ezdiy>	sure
Apr 30 17:10:56 <ezdiy>	i'm talking before intersango took over
Apr 30 17:10:57 <mircea_popescu>	overall it probably never made enough to cover the sum total of hacks.
Apr 30 17:11:18 <kakobrekla>	im guessing losses was cause gox
Apr 30 17:11:21 <ezdiy>	after that i suspect zhoutong just asset stripped it
Apr 30 17:11:44 <ezdiy>	kakobrekla: yeah, the "hacks"
Apr 30 17:11:46 <ezdiy>	i mean
Apr 30 17:12:02 <ezdiy>	you dont just run with the money like some low life crook
Apr 30 17:12:10 <ezdiy>	you just claim you were hacked in bitcoin world :)
Apr 30 17:12:34 <rexcrypto>	what happened to the kid ? I heard about a mysterious "investor" putting 50K to "insure" bitfinex loans
Apr 30 17:12:34 <kakobrekla>	accually im suprised tux is still alive
Apr 30 17:12:56 <rexcrypto>	they took a loss during the recent volatile market, and eat it
Apr 30 17:13:00 <mircea_popescu>	rexcrypto sounds like bs and how is bitfinex related rly ?
Apr 30 17:13:06 <ezdiy>	rexcrypto: i'd not be surprised if he's alive and well, and pulling the strings
Apr 30 17:13:28 <kakobrekla>	i mean how much one must owe to get a hit
Apr 30 17:13:33 <kakobrekla>	on him/her
Apr 30 17:13:43 <ezdiy>	kakobrekla: to get a hit?
Apr 30 17:13:43 <kakobrekla>	?
Apr 30 17:13:49 <rexcrypto>	isn't bitfinex using the same source code ?
Apr 30 17:13:56 <ezdiy>	rexcrypto: yes
Apr 30 17:14:06 <kakobrekla>	ezdiy to wack him
Apr 30 17:14:15 <ezdiy>	rexcrypto: however its not as simple as that
Apr 30 17:14:23 <ezdiy>	rexcrypto: the house must be constantly adjusted to not lose money
Apr 30 17:14:33 <kakobrekla>	1mio usd ? 10 mio usd ? 100 mio?
Apr 30 17:14:43 <ezdiy>	i suspect only zhoutong could do that without throwing off people with outrageous spreads
Apr 30 17:16:00 <ezdiy>	kakobrekla: to get a hitman to the tune 100k imo
Apr 30 17:16:09 <ezdiy>	kakobrekla: its not imo about the money, but knowing the right people
Apr 30 17:16:09 <jurov>	not even a hitman
Apr 30 17:16:16 <jurov>	frozen account, etc.
Apr 30 17:16:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.00073244 = 0.5977 BTC [-]
Apr 30 17:16:32 <ezdiy>	jurov: huh?
Apr 30 17:16:34 <kakobrekla>	100k?
Apr 30 17:16:39 <kakobrekla>	thats nothing.
Apr 30 17:16:42 <jurov>	i really wonder why this happened only to bitcoin-24 owner so far
Apr 30 17:16:47 <jurov>	and no other exchange
Apr 30 17:16:49 <ezdiy>	kakobrekla: yup
Apr 30 17:16:52 <kakobrekla>	he has like 20k coins
Apr 30 17:16:55 <kakobrekla>	from bitcoinica
Apr 30 17:16:57 <kakobrekla>	iirc
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Apr 30 17:17:02 <kakobrekla>	;;ticker
Apr 30 17:17:02 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.25041, Best ask: 137.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24959, Last trade: 137.50000, 24 hour volume: 63683.40158072, 24 hour low: 134.00000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 140.15166
Apr 30 17:17:08 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 20000*137
Apr 30 17:17:09 <gribble>	2740000
Apr 30 17:17:11 <rexcrypto>	the  kid was chinese, right ? is it simply a coincidence bitfinex is in HK ? then they come up with mystery "investors"
Apr 30 17:17:15 <ezdiy>	kakobrekla: thats like 2 years ago
Apr 30 17:17:22 <kakobrekla>	so he holds like 3mio
Apr 30 17:17:31 <kakobrekla>	of other peoples money
Apr 30 17:17:40 <kakobrekla>	nothing compared to what bitfloor did
Apr 30 17:17:44 <ezdiy>	rexcrypto: i dont think hes in directly
Apr 30 17:17:44 <kakobrekla>	and they want to eat him alive
Apr 30 17:17:47 <kakobrekla>	aint that interesting.
Apr 30 17:17:48 <ezdiy>	that would be too dangerous
Apr 30 17:17:50 <ezdiy>	and stupid
Apr 30 17:17:56 <ezdiy>	but people forget quickly
Apr 30 17:18:00 <ezdiy>	so what do we know
Apr 30 17:18:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.18 = 0.9 BTC [+]
Apr 30 17:19:03 <ezdiy>	kakobrekla: was there any banking fiat lost in bitcoinica hack?
Apr 30 17:19:08 <ezdiy>	or was it just mtgox codes?
Apr 30 17:19:22 <ezdiy>	because btc and mtgox codes .... lol, good luck suing someone just for that
Apr 30 17:19:37 <ezdiy>	if there is no legally binding record of transaction
Apr 30 17:20:00 <kakobrekla>	he admits it
Apr 30 17:20:50 <rexcrypto>	what ever happened to zhoutong's book ?
Apr 30 17:21:06 <rexcrypto>	he was planning to write the "bitcoin book"
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Apr 30 17:25:58 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23505 BTC [-]
Apr 30 17:27:41 <louong>	don't get Zhoutonged man
Apr 30 17:28:05 <ezdiy>	"How to zhoutong for fun and profit"
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Apr 30 17:29:07 <rexcrypto>	bitfinex is the only bucket shop that can do a BTC short
Apr 30 17:29:10 <louong>	biggest troll ever Zhoutong
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Apr 30 17:29:23 <rexcrypto>	so I'm probably getting zhoutonged as we speak
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Apr 30 17:35:27 <ezdiy>	rexcrypto: yup
Apr 30 17:35:52 <ezdiy>	other than being in ruby, the bitcoinica code is actually pretty decent
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Apr 30 17:36:22 <ezdiy>	the leaked version has some bugs so you can beat the house pretty quickly, that seems to be fixed on bitfinex now :(
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Apr 30 17:37:52 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1986595#msg1986595
Apr 30 17:37:53 <kakobrekla>	awww
Apr 30 17:38:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85 BTC [-]
Apr 30 17:38:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85 BTC [-]
Apr 30 17:38:50 <mircea_popescu>	ezdiy you tried it ?
Apr 30 17:39:35 <mircea_popescu>	bwahaha
Apr 30 17:41:13 <kakobrekla>	i was scammed in rl today
Apr 30 17:41:50 <iz>	i know, it's dumb, when they say "free refills", it's implied it means IN THAT VISIT
Apr 30 17:41:50 <mircea_popescu>	by a girl ?
Apr 30 17:41:59 <iz>	what a scam
Apr 30 17:42:43 <kakobrekla>	accually yea, a cahier ... and i was checkin the bill cause i though it was funny but aparently it went past me in the heat of the moment
Apr 30 17:42:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0142 = 0.0284 BTC [+]
Apr 30 17:43:45 <mircea_popescu>	so report her
Apr 30 17:43:46 <ezdiy>	kakobrekla: more often than not cashiers dont do it intentionally
Apr 30 17:43:50 <ezdiy>	unless they're vietnamese
Apr 30 17:43:54 <mircea_popescu>	she slipped you a mickey!
Apr 30 17:44:00 <ezdiy>	then count the change. twice. and check for fake bills.
Apr 30 17:44:15 <kakobrekla>	hm twas like 20 euro or so
Apr 30 17:44:24 <kakobrekla>	its gonna cost me more than that to try to fix it
Apr 30 17:44:41 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [+]
Apr 30 17:44:43 <kakobrekla>	so meh
Apr 30 17:45:01 <mircea_popescu>	fake 20 euro bill ?!
Apr 30 17:45:15 <kakobrekla>	no, the bill should be 100 instead of 120
Apr 30 17:45:28 <mircea_popescu>	um
Apr 30 17:45:30 <mircea_popescu>	a ok
Apr 30 17:46:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47939799 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 17:48:57 <mircea_popescu>	dudes if anyone is not reading that uppity tortilla thread.... you're missing out.
Apr 30 17:49:07 <mircea_popescu>	this is what something awful would be if they had any humor
Apr 30 17:49:35 <kakobrekla>	id pay him to come here
Apr 30 17:49:40 <kakobrekla>	so we dont need to check the forums
Apr 30 17:50:00 <jurov>	"We will also have a private forum in 48 hours max, for the delegates and people in the process."
Apr 30 17:50:07 <jurov>	we'll miss out soon :/
Apr 30 17:50:47 <kakobrekla>	yeah installing phpbb takes 48hrs max
Apr 30 17:51:20 <mircea_popescu>	jurov there's going to be leaks.
Apr 30 17:51:31 <mircea_popescu>	pigeons is probably whetting his pastebins as we speak
Apr 30 17:51:45 <kakobrekla>	is mpoe-pr on the invite list under some other handle?
Apr 30 17:51:50 <kakobrekla>	a
Apr 30 17:52:48 <jurov>	yes, likely several
Apr 30 17:53:32 <mircea_popescu>	for the record
Apr 30 17:53:33 <mircea_popescu>	http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g189934-d199923-Reviews-Hotel_Kamp-Helsinki_Southern_Finland.html
Apr 30 17:53:44 <mircea_popescu>	8 out of 69 in helsinki
Apr 30 17:53:46 <mircea_popescu>	premier in finland
Apr 30 17:54:37 <mircea_popescu>	200 dollah a night, mkay.
Apr 30 17:54:46 <mircea_popescu>	this dood needs to visit dubai.
Apr 30 17:55:03 <kakobrekla>	meh budai.
Apr 30 17:55:14 <mircea_popescu>	lol
Apr 30 17:55:21 <jurov>	"I did feel I wasn't taken as seriously as those who were wearing business dress, until the receptionist saw my booking... "
Apr 30 17:55:38 <mircea_popescu>	what issues people have ;/
Apr 30 17:55:42 <jurov>	lol what will reception say to horde of bitcoiners
Apr 30 17:55:47 <mircea_popescu>	you need to be taken seriously by receptionists now ?
Apr 30 17:56:17 <jurov>	you know, equal treatment
Apr 30 17:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	First, thank you for the personal invitation. I'm flattered.
Apr 30 17:56:34 <mircea_popescu>	For all that I post here about Bitcoin, my own activities about it, and where I see it going in the future, at the moment I am still truly small potatoes. 50k minicoins - the theoretical price of one ticket if I take too long to decide - is a large portion of my total Bitcoin holdings.
Apr 30 17:56:35 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 30 17:56:38 <mircea_popescu>	poor guy.
Apr 30 17:56:58 <kakobrekla>	who is that
Apr 30 17:57:07 <kakobrekla>	and what is mini coin
Apr 30 17:57:41 <jurov>	mBTC
Apr 30 17:57:55 <mircea_popescu>	some guy he invited.
Apr 30 17:57:57 <kakobrekla>	you know fuck you and your SI prefixes, i have two shovels of coins.
Apr 30 17:58:04 <mircea_popescu>	haha
Apr 30 17:58:32 <mircea_popescu>	imo minicoin = leetc.
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Apr 30 17:58:49 <mircea_popescu>	 Goat sold me 700,000mBTC for 2.65M THB yesterday
Apr 30 17:58:51 <mircea_popescu>	da fuck.
Apr 30 17:59:05 <kakobrekla>	THB is like GBH but cheaper?
Apr 30 17:59:14 <kakobrekla>	GHB
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Apr 30 18:00:08 <mircea_popescu>	lol i think it's thai baht
Apr 30 18:00:10 <mircea_popescu>	 I have almost contracted a team of 3 bright and beautiful young women to help with the organising of the summit (+ being The Summit Secretariat during the event, if ever we reach 30 participants - which I doubt but will employ them anyway)
Apr 30 18:00:13 <rexcrypto>	are you talking about reptila's slumber  party ? that man is utterly delusional
Apr 30 18:00:24 <mircea_popescu>	i have almost blown a loat in a girl's ass today.
Apr 30 18:00:30 <mircea_popescu>	except i did it yesterday.
Apr 30 18:00:40 <mircea_popescu>	rexcrypto he's funny :D
Apr 30 18:00:55 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 18:01:46 <truffles>	 <mircea_popescu> i have almost blown a loat in a girl's ass today.>>>> so interesting
Apr 30 18:02:05 <jurov>	lol i almost googled loat... then realized it's prolly load
Apr 30 18:02:15 <benkay>	context is underrated
Apr 30 18:02:21 <kakobrekla>	;;ud loat
Apr 30 18:02:22 <gribble>	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=loat | a large, sometimes furry creature who fears interpersonal interaction and prefers to remain secluded from society in its own world; see also HERMIT, REJECT ...
Apr 30 18:02:39 <rexcrypto>	that's reptila
Apr 30 18:02:52 <mircea_popescu>	totally.
Apr 30 18:02:52 <kakobrekla>	loat is a large, sometimes furry crature.
Apr 30 18:02:54 <benkay>	hah imagine blowing a loat into some poor lady's hiney
Apr 30 18:02:57 <kakobrekla>	creature
Apr 30 18:03:05 <benkay>	do you stick it in first and then inflate it?
Apr 30 18:03:07 <truffles>	ewwww
Apr 30 18:03:16 <mircea_popescu>	benkay you can...
Apr 30 18:03:40 <benkay>	or inflate it on the outside and make her squirm during the insertion
Apr 30 18:03:42 <mircea_popescu>	http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/Sumerianhunter/Me/weird-guy-with-guns.jpg
Apr 30 18:03:44 <mircea_popescu>	original loat.
Apr 30 18:04:19 <benkay>	my eyes
Apr 30 18:04:26 <benkay>	damn you my eyes!
Apr 30 18:04:36 <truffles>	didnt click
Apr 30 18:04:46 <mircea_popescu>	subquestion : why of why is his upper left thigh yellow ?
Apr 30 18:05:00 <rexcrypto>	piss
Apr 30 18:05:26 <jurov>	benkay why eyes? rather brain is hurt trying to imagine how mircea was using it
Apr 30 18:05:49 <benkay>	that's easy
Apr 30 18:05:53 <benkay>	gaping's a thing
Apr 30 18:06:00 <benkay>	there's no banana for scale in there
Apr 30 18:06:03 <benkay>	he's actually not that large
Apr 30 18:06:08 <mircea_popescu>	wanna bet that guy's a pickup artist ?
Apr 30 18:06:10 <benkay>	if there were a banana we'd be able to tell
Apr 30 18:06:10 <truffles>	buttsex doesnt need a how, but a why
Apr 30 18:06:19 <benkay>	feels good.
Apr 30 18:06:20 <benkay>	end of story.
Apr 30 18:06:34 <benkay>	also dom/sub stuff but that may escape you.
Apr 30 18:06:39 <jurov>	but butbut... he got blown? must have been a mess
Apr 30 18:06:45 <truffles>	yea not my thing
Apr 30 18:06:54 <benkay>	i love the wii guitar
Apr 30 18:07:02 <mircea_popescu>	lol is that what that is ?
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Apr 30 18:08:15 <benkay>	i think so
Apr 30 18:08:20 <benkay>	i keep opening the image and closing it again
Apr 30 18:08:30 <benkay>	haha
Apr 30 18:08:36 <benkay>	not one but two wii-tars
Apr 30 18:08:51 <benkay>	or rock band
Apr 30 18:09:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.331 BTC [+]
Apr 30 18:09:04 <benkay>	dude would probably froth hard at the wii implications,
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Apr 30 18:28:03 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00071681 = 3.6557 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 18:28:56 <kakobrekla>	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191898.0
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Apr 30 18:29:13 <kakobrekla>	will this have the same 'issues' ziggap had?
Apr 30 18:30:29 <kakobrekla>	>When Crypto Street launches, we'll hold massive funds within each exchange, eliminating the need to figure out this funneling.
Apr 30 18:31:27 <mircea_popescu>	yaright,
Apr 30 18:31:33 <mod6>	lol "it rhymes with marbitrage"
Apr 30 18:31:36 <mircea_popescu>	everyone has veteran bankers, massive funds and what else
Apr 30 18:31:44 <mircea_popescu>	sex,
Apr 30 18:31:45 <kakobrekla>	it also rhymes with skateboards
Apr 30 18:32:33 <jurov>	optimystic:signed up, excited to see and use
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Apr 30 18:47:58 <rexcrypto>	reptila is getting desperate: he added a new ticket type "virtual delegate", 5BTC
Apr 30 18:48:03 <rexcrypto>	no chance to impress the receptionist tough
Apr 30 18:48:24 <rexcrypto>	oh, excuse me... 5000 mBTC
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Apr 30 18:50:21 <kakobrekla>	a teaspoon of btc?
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Apr 30 18:51:25 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 1 teaspoon in drops
Apr 30 18:51:26 <gribble>	Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
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Apr 30 18:52:50 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21047 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 19:00:18 <kakobrekla>	http://xkcd.com/1200/
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Apr 30 19:08:26 <dub>	gah
Apr 30 19:09:06 <dub>	I'd like to print that out on a bit of 4x2 and beat our new corp security clowns with it
Apr 30 19:18:53 <mircea_popescu>	its 2x4
Apr 30 19:25:33 <benkay>	pedant
Apr 30 19:25:55 <jborkl>	maybe i will suggest to reptelia the name ACE
Apr 30 19:26:11 <jborkl>	Ass Clown Exchange
Apr 30 19:26:33 <benkay>	IACEP
Apr 30 19:26:43 <benkay>	Insane Ass Clown Exchange Posse
Apr 30 19:26:45 <benkay>	Possee
Apr 30 19:26:48 <benkay>	Possee
Apr 30 19:26:53 <benkay>	goddamnit. posse.
Apr 30 19:30:46 <dub>	could call themselves juggleasses
Apr 30 19:33:24 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.229 BTC [+]
Apr 30 19:39:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.201 = 0.402 BTC [-]
Apr 30 19:40:32 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.229 BTC [+]
Apr 30 19:48:54 <mircea_popescu>	im still waiting for them to produce 30 chicks.
Apr 30 19:49:35 <mircea_popescu>	perhaps somebody should whisper in his ear that at my thing i had the guests harassed by a drunken street whore.
Apr 30 19:49:38 <mircea_popescu>	top that, tortilla!
Apr 30 19:49:40 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00071681 = 4.8743 BTC [-]
Apr 30 19:52:27 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1234 @ 0.00072819 = 0.8986 BTC [+]
Apr 30 19:52:29 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1049 @ 0.00073864 = 0.7748 BTC [+]
Apr 30 19:52:32 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36 @ 0.00073864 = 0.0266 BTC [+]
Apr 30 19:57:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32100003 BTC [-]
Apr 30 20:00:37 <kakobrekla>	hm
Apr 30 20:01:02 <kakobrekla>	can someone double check my maff
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Apr 30 20:04:34 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.21047 = 2.4209 BTC [-]
Apr 30 20:08:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.0101 = 0.0404 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 20:16:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222223 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 20:19:04 <mircea_popescu>	sure kakobrekla
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Apr 30 20:19:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.21 = 0.84 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 20:21:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 55 @ 0.0101 = 0.5555 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 20:23:00 <kakobrekla>	mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1990212#msg1990212
Apr 30 20:23:05 <kakobrekla>	wont stand long prolly
Apr 30 20:23:32 <mircea_popescu>	1 desertspoon of bitcoins
Apr 30 20:23:35 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
Apr 30 20:24:11 <mircea_popescu>	ajaja ok tyhis is pretty good.
Apr 30 20:25:25 <kakobrekla>	o
Apr 30 20:25:27 <kakobrekla>	i just noticed
Apr 30 20:25:37 <kakobrekla>	the double cherry truck... its over 9000.
Apr 30 20:28:12 <mircea_popescu>	btw the dept of corrections is saying you need to spell dessertspoon
Apr 30 20:28:20 <mircea_popescu>	otherwise spoon of sand
Apr 30 20:28:32 <kakobrekla>	ok fixd
Apr 30 20:32:38 <kakobrekla>	also added
Apr 30 20:32:39 <kakobrekla>	1 piggy bank of bitcoins = 44375040 satoshi = 443.7504 mBTC = 0.4437504 BTC
Apr 30 20:32:45 <kakobrekla>	sounds about right
Apr 30 20:33:21 <mircea_popescu>	lol
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Apr 30 20:34:27 <KRS-1>	lets test it out...someone send me a bag of bitcoins. I'll send my address-
Apr 30 20:34:34 <KRS-1>	I'll let you know if its right.
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Apr 30 20:37:28 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.222223 = 9.7778 BTC [+]
Apr 30 20:39:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 36 @ 0.00301 = 0.1084 BTC [-]
Apr 30 20:40:08 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222223 BTC [+]
Apr 30 20:40:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14 @ 0.00071799 = 0.0101 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 20:44:07 <mircea_popescu>	http://imgur.com/gallery/E0Nqj
Apr 30 20:44:25 <kakobrekla>	should i add 1 tux of bitcoin like hmm
Apr 30 20:44:30 <kakobrekla>	;;calc 21*.7
Apr 30 20:44:31 <gribble>	14.7
Apr 30 20:44:36 <kakobrekla>	14.7 mio?
Apr 30 20:45:20 <mircea_popescu>	1 tux of bitcoin should be 3.14 satoshi
Apr 30 20:45:40 <kakobrekla>	:p
Apr 30 20:45:41 <mircea_popescu>	the pissatoshi, the unit of rage.
Apr 30 20:45:56 <KRS-1>	that sounds like someone's genitals in Italian.
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Apr 30 20:50:55 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: pissantoshi, a unit of measure for pissanthood.
Apr 30 20:51:26 <mircea_popescu>	lmao shuddup
Apr 30 20:51:40 <mircea_popescu>	i've just been pissanting the shit out of fred destin on twitter
Apr 30 20:51:45 <mircea_popescu>	you've been watching haven't you.
Apr 30 20:52:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1.4689 = 7.3445 BTC [+]
Apr 30 20:52:18 <asciilifeform>	mircea_popescu: nope. link?
Apr 30 20:54:08 <mircea_popescu>	odd timig
Apr 30 20:54:09 <mircea_popescu>	https://twitter.com/fdestin/status/329396168058613761
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Apr 30 21:01:45 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 925 @ 0.0101 = 9.3425 BTC [+]
Apr 30 21:01:57 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 454 @ 0.0101 = 4.5854 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 21:07:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47939789 BTC [-]
Apr 30 21:07:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01015 = 0.1015 BTC [+]
Apr 30 21:08:29 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 550 @ 0.01018 = 5.599 BTC [+]
Apr 30 21:09:44 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 25 @ 0.01018 = 0.2545 BTC [+]
Apr 30 21:10:18 <kakobrekla>	heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59uTUpO8Dzw
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Apr 30 21:14:46 <dub>	tl;dr
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Apr 30 21:27:12 <kakobrekla>	he makes sense also in relation to bitcoins
Apr 30 21:33:03 <KRS-1>	that avatar of you on Twitter looks like Tom Hanks.
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Apr 30 21:35:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.223223 = 6.1161 BTC [+]
Apr 30 21:37:39 <mircea_popescu>	anyone want to buy me a gift cert ?
Apr 30 21:40:06 *	joecool hears crickets
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Apr 30 21:40:24 <mircea_popescu>	heh.
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Apr 30 21:43:42 <mircea_popescu>	;;ticker
Apr 30 21:43:43 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.20000, Best ask: 139.29995, Bid-ask spread: 0.09995, Last trade: 139.20000, 24 hour volume: 64271.06565196, 24 hour low: 134.00000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 139.70171
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Apr 30 21:52:19 <mircea_popescu>	;;rated petertodd
Apr 30 21:52:19 <gribble>	You rated user petertodd on Sat Feb  9 03:36:12 2013, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: bought me SA gift cert..
Apr 30 21:52:32 <mircea_popescu>	;;rate petertodd 2 the gift cert expert.
Apr 30 21:52:33 <gribble>	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user petertodd has changed from 1 to 2.
Apr 30 21:55:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.32100002 = 4.815 BTC [-]
Apr 30 21:55:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 152 @ 0.32 = 48.64 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 21:59:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9386 @ 0.00071799 = 6.7391 BTC [-]
Apr 30 21:59:19 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11994 @ 0.00072741 = 8.7246 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 22:02:05 <mircea_popescu>	"Contacted a lawyer, will wait for his opinion about the brief to see whether it's worth it or not."
Apr 30 22:02:06 <mircea_popescu>	lmao
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Apr 30 22:02:51 <kakobrekla>	meh
Apr 30 22:03:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.8501 = 3.7002 BTC [+]
Apr 30 22:03:04 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.85 = 9.25 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 22:05:01 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.83 = 5.49 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 22:06:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4625 = 4.1625 BTC [-]
Apr 30 22:09:23 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22322 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 22:17:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.8399 = 9.1995 BTC [+]
Apr 30 22:18:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.47939789 = 3.3558 BTC [+]
Apr 30 22:23:46 <jborkl>	where the hell did you guys find that idiot anyway? you need to get RMA and ship him back
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Apr 30 22:31:06 <Tritonio>	Can someone explain to me what's the difference between Cryptostocks and Picostocks? I see that Picostocks allow you to do an IPO, while Cryptostocks simply store the stock into your account and then you just regularly sell them on the market.
Apr 30 22:32:04 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1677 @ 0.0007343 = 1.2314 BTC [+]
Apr 30 22:32:17 <mircea_popescu>	cryptostocks is an old stock exchange thing. never went anywhere.
Apr 30 22:32:26 <mircea_popescu>	picostocks is pretty much a scam, a la bitbillions or w/e
Apr 30 22:33:04 <Tritonio>	old stock exchange? what do you mean? It's an old site or is it old-style stock exchange? And what's old style? :-)
Apr 30 22:33:17 <mircea_popescu>	it's old as in it existed for more than a year.
Apr 30 22:33:50 <Tritonio>	I see. And what's w/e?
Apr 30 22:33:54 <mircea_popescu>	whatever
Apr 30 22:34:04 <Tritonio>	ah ok I though it was some other scam site.
Apr 30 22:34:20 <mircea_popescu>	haha would be pretty cool.
Apr 30 22:34:34 <mircea_popescu>	anyway, the story with picostocks is this dude came out of nowhere, claimed he's making an exchange
Apr 30 22:34:38 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222223 BTC [-]
Apr 30 22:34:45 <mircea_popescu>	then claimed he's making a fund on his exchange, on ~1mn dollar worth of basics
Apr 30 22:34:48 <mircea_popescu>	(at the time)
Apr 30 22:35:04 <mircea_popescu>	then tom folded and the guy was like a ok, making a 1mn worth of some other fpga i think it was
Apr 30 22:35:15 <mircea_popescu>	he had never bought the chips, he's just a puff artist.
Apr 30 22:36:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1100 @ 0.00175 = 1.925 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 22:42:19 <jborkl>	a poofter
Apr 30 22:43:29 <mircea_popescu>	lol. "you sir are a poofter!"
Apr 30 22:44:01 <BitHub>	#hah
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Apr 30 22:46:08 <Tritonio>	Vircurex is listed on cryptostocks? I guess that's the biggest company there.
Apr 30 22:46:27 <kakobrekla>	arent they one and the same ppl
Apr 30 22:46:57 <mircea_popescu>	Tritonio vircurex and cryptostocks run by the same guy, kumala
Apr 30 22:47:11 <mircea_popescu>	the offering was a little dubious, too. check the forum thread it's discussed there
Apr 30 22:47:41 <Tritonio>	I see. The offering you mean the IPO or the contract terms in general? I'm looking for the thread....
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Apr 30 22:51:59 <Tritonio>	Kumala said: "One more week till end of IPO.  Still have quite a number of shares to be sold."
Apr 30 22:52:23 <Tritonio>	IPO? I just saw that CryptoStocks doesn't offer IPOs.
Apr 30 22:52:45 <Tritonio>	It just gives you the shares to sell them at whatever price you want, doesn't it??
Apr 30 22:53:21 <mircea_popescu>	i think so.
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Apr 30 23:08:17 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 2 @ 0.51564507 = 1.0313 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:10:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.79 BTC [-]
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Apr 30 23:16:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22222 BTC [-]
Apr 30 23:19:10 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.003625 = 1.0875 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:21:08 <tiberiusiv>	;;bids 50
Apr 30 23:21:09 <gribble>	There are currently 138673.56 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 11692792.2784 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.6958 seconds
Apr 30 23:21:13 <tiberiusiv>	;;asks 200
Apr 30 23:21:14 <gribble>	There are currently 89593.695 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 14932027.1768 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.9570 seconds
Apr 30 23:22:59 <ThickAsThieves>	WTB Asicminer shares in bulk, pm plz
Apr 30 23:24:15 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.00069 = 0.1035 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:24:47 <dub>	;;getrating ThickAsThieves
Apr 30 23:24:48 <gribble>	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User thickasthieves, rated since Sat Mar  2 09:19:18 2013. Cumulative rating 2, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=thickasthieves
Apr 30 23:27:02 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47939789 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:35:02 <ThickAsThieves>	;;ticker
Apr 30 23:35:03 <gribble>	BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.31000, Best ask: 129.38670, Bid-ask spread: 0.07670, Last trade: 129.38670, 24 hour volume: 79350.57428952, 24 hour low: 127.53171, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 138.01913
Apr 30 23:36:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 548 @ 0.00363 = 1.9892 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 23:37:57 <kakobrekla>	;;bc,stats
Apr 30 23:38:00 <gribble>	Current Blocks: 233998 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 1873 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 9 hours, 41 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10484860.0635 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.05474
Apr 30 23:38:53 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 15 @ 0.000695 = 0.0104 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:39:03 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 87 @ 0.000695 = 0.0605 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:39:20 <mircea_popescu>	;;bc,sex
Apr 30 23:39:20 <gribble>	Error: "bc,sex" is not a valid command.
Apr 30 23:39:25 <mircea_popescu>	poofter.
Apr 30 23:41:35 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 141 @ 0.00363 = 0.5118 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:44:00 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5564 @ 0.00073864 = 4.1098 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:44:02 <assbot>	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1986 @ 0.00073864 = 1.4669 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:44:21 <kakobrekla>	im off
Apr 30 23:44:21 <kakobrekla>	nite
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Apr 30 23:49:40 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20602 BTC [-]
Apr 30 23:52:03 <assbot>	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.469 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:52:07 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:52:16 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:52:21 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2222 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:52:25 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22222 BTC [+]
Apr 30 23:52:37 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.222222 BTC [+]
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Apr 30 23:58:47 <assbot>	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 157 @ 0.00363 = 0.5699 BTC [+]